| 00:05.27 | Shirik | muahaha |
| 00:05.29 | Shirik | I have pocky |
| 00:05.42 | Thunder_Child | is it contagious? |
| 00:05.50 | Shirik | ... |
| 00:06.14 | Shirik | pocky is win |
| 00:06.15 | godzirra | Someone said yesterday they use YATA... how the hell do I move it around? ;p |
| 00:06.15 | FoxMcLeod | Sounds like it |
| 00:06.50 | Shirik | ~wiki Pocky |
| 00:07.00 | Thunder_Child | seriously Shirik, make sure people get tested before you do creazy stuff with them |
| 00:07.14 | Thunder_Child | crazy* |
| 00:08.23 | FoxMcLeod | Ah, ok they are called Mikado here, I like those |
| 00:09.25 | Shirik | well there's other flavors |
| 00:09.29 | Shirik | the strawberry one is my favorite |
| 00:10.06 | FoxMcLeod | anyone experienced with waterfall-1.0 here? |
| 00:10.18 | Thunder_Child | using it or coding it? |
| 00:10.25 | FoxMcLeod | -.- |
| 00:10.37 | FoxMcLeod | well I just want to make my addon use it :) |
| 00:10.39 | Thunder_Child | just rmeber |
| 00:10.46 | Thunder_Child | remember* |
| 00:10.50 | Thunder_Child | ~Thunder_Child |
| 00:10.51 | purl | Thunder_Child is an asshole |
| 00:11.01 | FoxMcLeod | ok... |
| 00:11.23 | FoxMcLeod | not quite helpful but definatly enlightening |
| 00:14.28 | Thunder_Child | yes, well i am here to help |
| 00:14.42 | Thunder_Child | just not usually in the way that anyone wants |
| 00:17.01 | foxlit | Figure out how you want to present your configuration dialog first, worry about how to implement it later |
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| 00:17.35 | foxlit | The Ace2 dropdown menu configuration style was a user-experience disaster :/ |
| 00:17.51 | seebs | There don't happen to be any AnnoyRP users here, do there? |
| 00:18.00 | Fin | Industrial: the aristocrats! |
| 00:18.24 | foxlit | It's just like the Java book. |
| 00:18.42 | foxlit | Except memory management is actually discussed |
| 00:19.02 | seebs | Heh. |
| 00:19.14 | foxlit | (Not that having runtime clean up after you isn't convenient!) |
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| 00:21.40 | Corrodias | annoyrp? |
| 00:21.46 | Corrodias | that doesn't sound like a very helpful addon |
| 00:22.09 | seebs | I love it to bits. It has made me popular with my guildies. |
| 00:22.10 | seebs | :) |
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| 00:22.25 | foxlit | Does it annoy roleplayers? |
| 00:22.44 | Corrodias | "AnnoyRP is yet another addon to provide chatter. It is aimed primarily at roleplaying usage; you can set up selections of funny or appropriate things to say on particular circumstances, such as spell casting or ordering your pet around. It is fairly friendly, and accepts drag and drop of spells for nearly automatic configuration." |
| 00:22.47 | seebs | No, it's a roleplaying addon... I named it because it has the potential to BE annoying. |
| 00:22.55 | Corrodias | that's decent, but the title is a putoff |
| 00:22.58 | seebs | Yup. That's the one. I'm doing the sequel, currently named PesterRP. |
| 00:23.07 | seebs | Well, I'm totally open to a better name. :) |
| 00:23.27 | Corrodias | coming up with ideas isn't my strong point; shooting them down is! |
| 00:23.51 | seebs | Hmm. I wonder if there's already one named Chatterbox |
| 00:24.00 | foxlit | Sure, pick the obvious one! |
| 00:24.27 | seebs | Hmm. Does anyone know of one? If not, I'm gonna use that. |
| 00:24.34 | seebs | I was finding PesterRP annoying to type. |
| 00:24.37 | JoshBorke | look on the sites |
| 00:24.37 | foxlit | I don't think there is, actually |
| 00:24.45 | seebs | Google doesn't find one, so I think I'm good. |
| 00:24.48 | foxlit | Too much spread, prefix is awkward as well |
| 00:24.54 | foxlit | PRP_Moo - too much finger movement there |
| 00:25.04 | Corrodias | hmm |
| 00:25.19 | Thunder_Child | "(16:23:31) (Corrodias) coming up with ideas isn't my strong point; shooting them down is!" <-- i'm so with you on this one |
| 00:25.38 | foxlit | Then you can hit _ with right, and resume normal typing afterwards |
| 00:25.51 | foxlit | (of course, the problem goes away if you use tables to namespace) |
| 00:26.44 | seebs | And it looks like /cbox is clear. |
| 00:26.57 | foxlit | Is /cb? |
| 00:27.10 | seebs | Probably not, two-letter abbreviations are nearly all taken. |
| 00:27.17 | seebs | But cbx might be clear. |
| 00:27.30 | foxlit | Wonder how conflicts there get resolved - random undefined hashtable behavior? |
| 00:27.37 | foxlit | Hm, I need more spare time; it'd be good to make a Guitar-Hero like visualization for DPS classes |
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| 00:28.03 | seebs | That'd be fun. "DDR your way to a better rogue!" |
| 00:28.24 | foxlit | "No, you noob, you spam moonfire now!" |
| 00:28.50 | Industrial | Fin: lol >_> |
| 00:29.05 | FoxMcLeod | what does self.db.profile stand for? |
| 00:29.11 | seebs | Did you ever see the PvP druid video where he had a UI that consisted of nothing but about 70 moonfire buttons, and kept switching from one to another? :) |
| 00:29.12 | Shirik | uh |
| 00:29.22 | Shirik | it stands for self.db.profile? |
| 00:29.25 | Shirik | db = database |
| 00:29.26 | foxlit | I'm guessing AceDB proifle? |
| 00:29.33 | FoxMcLeod | ah thanks |
| 00:29.34 | Shirik | that's about the furthest you can expand it |
| 00:29.53 | FoxMcLeod | I'm trying to reverseengineer some code here ^^ |
| 00:29.56 | foxlit | seebs: no, but sometimes that's how I play |
| 00:29.59 | foxlit | Damn rogues! |
| 00:30.11 | foxlit | It's not reverse engineering if you can see the code. |
| 00:30.32 | FoxMcLeod | hmm you have a point |
| 00:30.43 | Industrial | me too |
| 00:30.45 | Shirik | reverse engineering is sticking a servo up to an oscilloscope |
| 00:30.50 | Shirik | and pushing buttons for 4 hours |
| 00:30.54 | Shirik | until you understand how it works |
| 00:31.16 | FoxMcLeod | I'm trying to understand some code here to figure out a way to use |
| 00:31.16 | Industrial | now Shirik got my point |
| 00:31.17 | Industrial | :o |
| 00:31.20 | Thunder_Child | Shirik, you know that sounded like my last doctors apointment |
| 00:32.01 | FoxMcLeod | basically what I do is c&p the code, run in on my test toon and see what happens when I change something |
| 00:32.09 | FoxMcLeod | -in +it |
| 00:35.39 | FoxMcLeod | OIC self.db.profile[something] basically represents a SavedPerCharacter var |
| 00:36.26 | FoxMcLeod | miht be faster to construct my own config gui than to implement waterfall ~.~ |
| 00:36.35 | foxlit | TCP socket state FIN_WAIT_2 |
| 00:36.55 | foxlit | why, how? |
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| 00:46.16 | seebs | Hey, I need help naming a field. |
| 00:46.48 | seebs | Imagine two scenarios: In one, Bob's fireball hits me for 300 points of damage. In the other, my fireball hits Bob for 300 points of damage. |
| 00:46.50 | foxlit | notAVariable |
| 00:47.06 | buu | seebs: Uh, amount, damage, etc. |
| 00:47.06 | seebs | Is there a name for my relationship with Bob that denotes both? Something simpler than "the party of the second part" or whatever? |
| 00:47.07 | foxlit | (keep going :) ) |
| 00:47.15 | buu | seebs: I did 'target' and 'caster' |
| 00:47.24 | seebs | Right. |
| 00:47.26 | foxlit | subject/verb/object |
| 00:47.33 | foxlit | actor/action/... |
| 00:47.39 | buu | In the first case, caster is bob, second case, caster is you. |
| 00:47.40 | seebs | Right. But what I want is the "either-or" word. |
| 00:47.56 | buu | You mean.. the other person involved in the action |
| 00:47.59 | seebs | Yes. |
| 00:48.23 | buu | Uh. Actor? |
| 00:48.27 | seebs | So I can have a static field label like "Target: ", only that could also describe the attacker when I'm the target. |
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| 00:48.36 | seebs | No, because when I'm attacking, it's the Actee. |
| 00:48.45 | buu | They're sort of funamentally different |
| 00:49.00 | buu | Why do you need to conflate them? |
| 00:49.17 | buu | Why would the 'target' field swithc to describe someone targeting you? |
| 00:49.23 | seebs | The thing is, when I'm casting a spell, I know I'm casting it, so there's no possible reason to match the caster, but the target could matter, and when a spell is cast on me, I know it's on me, so there's no possible reason to match the target, but the caster could matter. |
| 00:49.37 | seebs | And I want a single field for "the name of the other guy" that is used in both cases. |
| 00:49.37 | buu | Er, of course it matters to match the target |
| 00:49.41 | buu | Especially when it is 'you' |
| 00:49.46 | buu | That's how you know it is 'you' |
| 00:49.55 | buu | I think you're going about this the wrong way. |
| 00:50.06 | seebs | Hmm. |
| 00:50.29 | seebs | The thing is, for sanity reasons, I don't support detection of any events in which the player is not a primary participant -- either subject or object. |
| 00:50.56 | buu | Well, how else are you going to distinguish if the player was the one acted on or doing the acting? |
| 00:50.58 | foxlit | So you want to merge subject/object into a single placeholder name for formatting reasons? |
| 00:51.34 | foxlit | The scenario being someone configuring things to say when (a) You're nuking someone (b) Someone is nuking you? |
| 00:51.37 | seebs | Sorta formatting. I have a table of events. Each event should have basically the same format -- the same set of fields, and so on. Spell/ability name, damage amount, and so on. |
| 00:51.44 | seebs | Right. |
| 00:51.52 | foxlit | (the placeholder referring to someone (and not you) in both cases? |
| 00:51.56 | seebs | Right! |
| 00:52.29 | seebs | So there's a field which could, conceivably, contain the word "Defias", and would then match any defias mob... And it would match attackers if the event type was incoming attacks, or it would match targets if it was outgoing attacks. |
| 00:52.40 | seebs | Hmm. |
| 00:52.51 | buu | seebs: But how do you know if it was incoming or outgoing? |
| 00:53.12 | seebs | Somewhere else, there's a pop-up list of event types, or possibly a checkbox or somesuch, indicating the basic event type. |
| 00:53.30 | seebs | So, for instance, for "spell cast" events, ONLY my spells can ever trigger that. |
| 00:54.25 | buu | Er, what do you do when it's a spell cast on you? |
| 00:54.28 | foxlit | Well, I can understand what you want, but I don't think you can bend english that way |
| 00:55.11 | foxlit | [otherGuy] makes for a horrible name, but you'd at least get the intention across |
| 00:55.36 | buu | Heh, yeah. |
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| 00:57.51 | Kelfarr | i just got banned from the wow forums :( |
| 00:58.09 | seebs | When it's a spell cast on you, it has some name like "Spell Received"... |
| 00:58.15 | seebs | But actually, you've given me a notion. |
| 00:58.38 | seebs | What if I special-case "-" as caster or target to refer to the player, and then just have Subject and Object as two field names? |
| 00:58.43 | FoxMcLeod | *quick |
| 00:59.04 | seebs | Then I just have to make all the events be the same. Oh, and I can even simplify pet actions, by having them show up with actor "pet" |
| 00:59.18 | seebs | Okay, sold. |
| 01:01.17 | seebs | Hmm. Of course, some actions can't possibly be detected or used unless Actor is "-". |
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| 01:05.49 | seebs | Buu, thanks so much. You've reduced 30+ event types to about 6. |
| 01:07.17 | alestane | cogwheel: You just missed it, Kelfarr just said he got banned from the forums. |
| 01:07.36 | cogwheel | O.O |
| 01:07.53 | seebs | Wow. |
| 01:07.57 | seebs | I wonder why. |
| 01:08.17 | alestane | He might have meant suspended, I dunno. |
| 01:09.08 | alestane | The only thing that surprises me about it is that he was starting to act like a decent human being occasionally. |
| 01:09.29 | seebs | I think it's the "occasionally" that's at issue. |
| 01:09.44 | seebs | SOOOO happy! This has suddenly become a much more manageable task, conceptually. |
| 01:09.44 | buu | seebs: =] |
| 01:10.37 | amro | http://youtube.com/watch?v=DMhf2azGW90 |
| 01:10.39 | seebs | Every event I care about can be expressed as {type, source, target, ability, damage, damage-type } |
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| 01:11.07 | ScytheBlade1 | Hmm, it seems that babelfish is back |
| 01:11.24 | buu | seebs: Mine looks something like, { caster, target, value, amount, spell, special_mod, special_mod_amount } |
| 01:11.26 | seebs | e.g, "Hit, Defias Highwayman, self, attack, 14, physical", or "Start, self, -, Summon Felsteed, 0, -" |
| 01:11.37 | buu | seebs: What about "He hits you for 42 (200 resisted)" |
| 01:12.03 | seebs | Hmmm. |
| 01:12.22 | seebs | so you'd do "He, self, 42, (spell name), resisted, 200"? |
| 01:12.43 | seebs | I think partial resists are beyond the scope of this. I might care about Immune. |
| 01:12.57 | FoxMcLeod | ah damnit, /reloadui doesn't reload the toc, does it? |
| 01:13.05 | seebs | It'd be fun to have spells that fail because target is immune say "I think this one's nigh-invulnerable. Better get the special gun. |
| 01:13.12 | buu | Hah. |
| 01:13.13 | amro | FoxMcLeod: Quit wow for that |
| 01:13.26 | buu | seebs: Well, there's blocks and dodges and parries. |
| 01:13.39 | buu | Complete resists and partial resists. |
| 01:13.42 | buu | Misses. |
| 01:13.45 | seebs | True. I'm sort of combining some things. |
| 01:13.46 | FoxMcLeod | amru: ok, thanks |
| 01:13.54 | seebs | Hmm. |
| 01:14.20 | buu | seebs: I recently wrote a parser for the log file. What an ugly mess. |
| 01:14.33 | seebs | Hit, Miss, Fail, Start, Crit, Dodge, Parry, Block, Absorb, Immune, Resist, and special cases like Death |
| 01:15.18 | seebs | I am thinking of combining block, absorb, and resist into a single category somehow. I care about parry and dodge, and about straight misses. |
| 01:15.33 | seebs | miss/resist-completely are essentially the same event, IMHO, and can be combined. |
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| 01:16.17 | seebs | Keep in mind, many of the ambiguities here are resolved elsewhere; since I'm likely specifying spell names, I don't care much about the distinction between auto-attack misses and spell resists, because they can be told apart elsewhere. |
| 01:17.30 | seebs | Hmm. Actually, I think I'll probably simply IGNORE partial-resists. "(200 resisted)" doesn't change the fact that there was a hit, and neither does (23 blocked). Only "X blocks" really changes anything. |
| 01:18.04 | seebs | Also note that unreliability is NOT a problem here. It's okay if Chatterbox misses an opportunity to say something silly now and then. |
| 01:18.35 | seebs | Hmm. I still have a few too many event types, though. |
| 01:18.54 | reqol | if you have a combat log modifying addon such as simplecombatlog, when you intercept an event and reply to it with a function, what is the argument? for example CHAT_MSG_SPELL_SELF_DMG |
| 01:19.09 | reqol | would it be what the combat log normally says, or what scl outputs? |
| 01:19.25 | seebs | I would assume you'd get the original data. |
| 01:19.28 | seebs | Don't know. |
| 01:19.36 | reqol | well it doesn't work with SCL, so something must be wrong |
| 01:20.40 | seebs | Hmm. No clue, then. |
| 01:22.32 | seebs | hit, miss, interrupt, fail, start, crit, dodge, parry, cast, immune, death, +aura, -aura |
| 01:22.58 | seebs | I think that's the only set of cases I care about. death, and +/- aura, only apply to self; I think everything else can be applied both to you affecting others, and them affecting you. |
| 01:23.07 | seebs | Oh, wait. I forgot spell ticks. |
| 01:23.52 | seebs | Er, I need a better name for those. If I'm channelling a spell, or casting a spell with a casting time, what's a good name for the time spent casting, given that "tick" is sort of a term of art within the game? |
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| 01:29.27 | reqol | well, you're right, it is definitely sending the argument as the original text. I added some debug text. however, this still puzzles me as to why it won't work. |
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| 01:30.54 | Thunder_Child | "One is never aware of ones own body as much as when one is injured." (except sex, which makes you wonder about sex...) |
| 01:36.39 | seebs | I sorta wish WoW had a "/debugging" command that would disable auto-afk and all that. :p |
| 01:37.05 | reqol | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:38.51 | reqol | is there anyway to do a spoiler thing that people have to highlight over IRC? |
| 01:39.04 | reqol | I wanna paste my favorite but it has some expletives in it |
| 01:40.26 | Thunder_Child | reqol, lol |
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| 01:40.45 | reqol | ? |
| 01:40.55 | Thunder_Child | the codes |
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| 01:41.09 | reqol | my favorite one is the second to last one (before his favorite) |
| 01:43.16 | reqol | testing resists is a big pain in the butt ;_; |
| 01:44.43 | seebs | Hmm. |
| 01:45.22 | seebs | If I have "<Frame name="CBox_EventTemplate" virtual="true">", and I get no warnings or errors in FrameXML.log, I should be able to use "CBox_EventTemplate" as the inherits-from argument to CreateFrame, right? |
| 01:49.11 | Corrodias | #1 reason i'd never play a paladin: blessings |
| 01:49.30 | Corrodias | well, reason #1 of several |
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| 01:50.17 | seebs | Hmm. I am beginning to suspect that virtual=true frames don't actually interact well with the lua CreateFrame stuff. At least, I can't seem to find a way to refer to them. |
| 01:50.57 | dylanm | You can inherit from them... isn't that the point? |
| 01:51.07 | dylanm | If they're named. They should be named, obviously. |
| 01:51.11 | seebs | Well, hmm. |
| 01:51.31 | seebs | In my XML: <Frame name="CBox_EventTemplate" virtual="true"> (...) </Frame> |
| 01:51.46 | seebs | In my Lua: f = CreateFrame(mumble, mumble, mumble, "CBox_EventTemplate") |
| 01:52.12 | seebs | ... Wait, now it's working. What on earth did I change? |
| 01:52.22 | dylanm | Wooosh. |
| 01:52.51 | seebs | Wait, should I be using ""s around the frame name? |
| 01:53.53 | seebs | If I do, I get "CreateFrame(): Couldn't find inherited node "CBox_EventTemplate", but I'm pretty sure the quotes are supposed to be there; WoWWiki says it's a string. |
| 01:54.24 | dylanm | Should be a string, yeah. |
| 01:54.50 | seebs | Hmm. devtools says that /dump CBox_EventTemplate is nil, but FrameXML.log shows no errors. |
| 01:55.47 | reqol | what can I use to simulate any word that could be in place in a string for lua? And for future reference, what is this called so I can search for it in the future through google? if I knew the name for it I'd just look it up |
| 01:56.05 | reqol | that doesn't make much sense, hmm? |
| 01:56.09 | seebs | You're looking for "patterns", I think. |
| 01:56.36 | reqol | just to clarify: I mean, how can I say to the interpreter, Hey, any word can be right here, it doesn't matter, it's a wildcard |
| 01:56.40 | reqol | thanks seebs, i'll check that out |
| 01:56.41 | seebs | .* |
| 01:56.45 | seebs | I think that's it. |
| 01:58.30 | reqol | "unit name: .*" would work? or is there an escape sequence for it? or does this only work when matching against terms using strfind? sorry, this is probably a dumb question. |
| 01:58.57 | seebs | I don't think I understand enough about what you're trying to match, let alone what you're trying to match against. |
| 01:59.09 | seebs | Also, as a matter of style, I recommend spelling out "string.find". It's easier to track later. :) |
| 01:59.19 | reqol | okay |
| 01:59.29 | reqol | I actually usually do, I just simplified it there for ease of typing :) |
| 02:00.22 | seebs | Anyway, uhm. Anyone got any suggestions on how to go about debugging "I made this frame, but now I can't inherit from it"? I assume this is what virtual frames are supposed to be for, but I have no idea what to do about it not working. No diagnostics, no errors, no warnings.... and no object, despite me declaring one. |
| 02:01.59 | seebs | Is there anything special I have to do when declaring a virtual frame to make it work? |
| 02:02.20 | dylanm | Not really. Virtual frames don't become lua objects though. There's a very big wall between them and lua for some reason |
| 02:02.23 | seebs | Oh. |
| 02:02.26 | seebs | Well, then I'm screwed. |
| 02:02.40 | seebs | Or maybe not. That makes it harder to debug, at least. |
| 02:02.59 | seebs | So, it *shouldn't* be a lua object, but I should still be able to specify its name, in quotes, as the fourth argument to CreateFrame, right? |
| 02:03.24 | dylanm | Yeppers. |
| 02:04.12 | seebs | Oh-hoh! |
| 02:04.25 | seebs | Found an explanation that seems likely -- my code may be running before the XML object is created. |
| 02:04.38 | dylanm | I was going to mention that but I thought it insulting. |
| 02:04.52 | dylanm | :D |
| 02:04.54 | seebs | I don't understand the load order at all. |
| 02:05.02 | seebs | I don't even know how to guess at what it will be... |
| 02:05.34 | Cidan | You could |
| 02:05.36 | Cidan | oh I dunno |
| 02:05.38 | Cidan | not use XML? |
| 02:05.39 | Cidan | :P |
| 02:05.45 | dylanm | These are all files in your addon, right? You specify the load order in the .toc... unless I'm just not getting you here. |
| 02:05.53 | dylanm | Oh you're loading a script file. |
| 02:06.01 | dylanm | Within the xml? |
| 02:06.08 | seebs | Well, I'm trying to minimize it, but I don't have any clue how to make virtual frames with lua. I guess I could just do it all manually. |
| 02:06.20 | seebs | Oh! I think the solution is just to move a lot of this from OnLoad to AddonLoaded. |
| 02:06.21 | dylanm | Can't make virtual frames in lua. |
| 02:06.28 | Cidan | http://www.conspiracy-ui.com/lua |
| 02:06.32 | seebs | Or better yet. |
| 02:06.32 | Cidan | woosh |
| 02:06.34 | dylanm | You can just apply a bunch of stuff and it's the same. |
| 02:06.35 | Cidan | Have fun. |
| 02:07.02 | seebs | What if I declared my templates BEFORE the frame that has an <OnLoad> script that tries to make the rest of the GUI? |
| 02:07.12 | seebs | DOH! |
| 02:07.19 | Cidan | Or you can just not use XML, woosh, problem solved. |
| 02:07.55 | seebs | Yeah. Maybe I should; I wanted to use it for templating, but I guess I could just template in plain Lua, too. |
| 02:08.58 | seebs | Hmm. Well, that's a question; I wanted to use XML for inheritance. I don't think I can do the inheritance and automatic-naming in Lua, but I can do my own automatic naming, I suppose. |
| 02:09.12 | dylanm | Yeah. That's what a lot of people do. |
| 02:09.49 | reqol | I'm probably wrong, but you can create functions that create the frames for you and do sort of a psuedo inheritance type deal, I guess |
| 02:09.53 | seebs | Yeah. |
| 02:09.59 | Cidan | No, you're dead on. |
| 02:10.05 | Cidan | Shirik and I have built an entire API to do that. |
| 02:10.15 | reqol | wow, is it available? |
| 02:10.21 | reqol | that seems somewhat extensive :o |
| 02:10.34 | Cidan | No sir, not yet. We're looking to have it out very soon, now that classes are over. |
| 02:10.41 | reqol | sweet, I'll keep an eye out <3. |
| 02:11.25 | Cidan | It's a nice API that handles windowing, window positions, frame creation and recycling, child and parent relation management, timers, themes, uh |
| 02:11.30 | Cidan | events, data sets |
| 02:11.51 | seebs | Neat. |
| 02:11.58 | Cidan | entire toolkits, drag and drop, scroll windows, dropdown lists, and so on. |
| 02:12.17 | Wobwork | http://youtube.com/watch?v=zJOS0sV2a24 |
| 02:12.22 | Cidan | We're gettin' pretty close to release, we can actually push out what we have now... Hm |
| 02:12.26 | Wobwork | Randall Monroe talk |
| 02:12.27 | Cidan | I wonder if we should, maybe. |
| 02:12.43 | Wobwork | Cidan: You're out of beta you're releasing on time? |
| 02:13.50 | Cidan | Wobwork: hardly, :( |
| 02:15.35 | Thunder_Child | watch as you release it just before 2.4 and they break it |
| 02:15.49 | seebs | Hmm. SetID/GetID for widgets: Any reason not to use these for things like "which row of a table this widget is in"? |
| 02:16.00 | reqol | so I'm glad I got burned think of all the things we've learned, for the people who are still alive |
| 02:16.05 | Shirik | Thunder_Child: 2.4 has been on our mind already |
| 02:16.08 | reqol | mmmm, excellent game with an excellent ending |
| 02:16.14 | Shirik | As a result I stopped developing one of the subsystems |
| 02:16.20 | Shirik | because I recognized 2.4 would completely destroy it |
| 02:16.26 | reqol | Shirik: that's sad :( |
| 02:16.29 | Wobwork | reqol: totally =) |
| 02:16.32 | Shirik | reqol: Not really |
| 02:16.40 | Shirik | Actually the signals subsystem can take the place of the events subsystem |
| 02:16.43 | Shirik | just the events one was cleaner |
| 02:16.44 | reqol | seems like it to me, or wer eyou not too far into the development? |
| 02:16.59 | Shirik | Well actually the nice thing was that this subsystem was overlapped by another |
| 02:17.20 | Shirik | look at it like this: You have one system that does a broad set of things, then another that handles a subset of that but performs it more gracefully |
| 02:17.38 | Shirik | That second part I had to stop working on. However you can still use the broader one to get what you need done |
| 02:17.49 | Cidan | Shirik |
| 02:17.50 | Cidan | I tell you what |
| 02:18.01 | Cidan | Let me just clean up some of the code, and we'll just release alpha |
| 02:18.02 | Shirik | the units system is sucking? |
| 02:18.03 | Cidan | fuck it. |
| 02:18.04 | Shirik | Nonono |
| 02:18.07 | Shirik | I have to fix Units first |
| 02:18.08 | Cidan | Why not? |
| 02:18.09 | Shirik | then we can release it |
| 02:18.09 | Cidan | oh |
| 02:18.12 | Cidan | Fine, do that |
| 02:18.23 | Shirik | It only handles one unit right now, ha |
| 02:18.28 | Cidan | I'll clean up what I'm working on, so people stop saying LOL VAPORWARE |
| 02:18.35 | Shirik | if you track another it'll overwrite the old one :P |
| 02:18.38 | Cidan | no.. it doesn't? |
| 02:18.39 | Thunder_Child | LOL VAPORWARE |
| 02:18.42 | Shirik | uh, it did for me |
| 02:18.43 | Cidan | oh |
| 02:18.43 | Cidan | right |
| 02:18.45 | Cidan | huh |
| 02:18.53 | Shirik | well I'll do some more testing |
| 02:19.00 | Shirik | double check it's working |
| 02:19.10 | Cidan | kk |
| 02:21.32 | Thunder_Child | there we go |
| 02:21.34 | Thunder_Child | ~conspiracy addon |
| 02:21.34 | purl | LOL VAPORWARE |
| 02:21.59 | Shirik | I hate you |
| 02:22.05 | Cidan | Indeed. |
| 02:22.17 | Thunder_Child | i was gonna use conspiracy, but it was rather grandly taken |
| 02:22.20 | Thunder_Child | ~conspiracy |
| 02:22.20 | purl | I have been placed here to serve KDE. It has been hypothesized that the GNOME people placed me in #kde as part of a conspiracy to decrease the productivity of the KDE developers. |
| 02:22.32 | Shirik | rofl |
| 02:22.38 | Cidan | lol |
| 02:26.22 | seebs | This is odd. I have frames that are moving around with my parent frame, but which do not hide when it hides. |
| 02:26.45 | seebs | Doh. No, I don't. |
| 02:26.56 | Shirik | because you SetPoint but it's not parent |
| 02:27.00 | seebs | Exactly. |
| 02:27.03 | Cidan | indeed |
| 02:27.06 | seebs | I had CreateFrame("Frame", parent) |
| 02:27.23 | seebs | I am SO bad at UI code. |
| 02:27.31 | Shirik | so am I |
| 02:27.32 | Cidan | You'll get the hang of it |
| 02:27.32 | Shirik | it's ok |
| 02:27.39 | Cidan | It's a lot easier than it looks |
| 02:29.47 | seebs | I'm at least better at it than I used to be. |
| 02:30.42 | seebs | In fact, once this is done, it's going to be WAY cleaner and easier than my old code; instead of string.find(this:GetName(), "LongPattern(%d*)Blah").tonumber, I can just use this:GetID() |
| 02:30.52 | seebs | I cannot believe that code ever ran. :p |
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| 02:37.02 | FoxMcLeod | They are supposed to crash your computer? |
| 02:37.32 | FoxMcLeod | btw is there a way to comment from - to |
| 02:37.52 | FoxMcLeod | i need to remove a function for testing and its like 30 lines |
| 02:38.03 | Nargiddley | --[[ comment ]] |
| 02:38.11 | FoxMcLeod | thx |
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| 02:51.23 | Corrodias | wtf is up with this bear tanking gear? so little of it has any defense |
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| 02:51.52 | Gnarfoz | it mainly needs armor and stamina |
| 02:52.00 | Corrodias | mainly yes |
| 02:52.09 | Corrodias | but i DO need SOME defense or resilience |
| 02:55.40 | reqol | I take it 2.4 is going to break all combat log addons? |
| 02:55.41 | Wobwork | oh man |
| 02:56.00 | Wobwork | I totally am watching this entire one hour talk by Randy Monroe |
| 02:56.29 | seebs | Any particular reason to believe that 2.4 will break addons, or is it just that normally updates do? |
| 02:57.40 | Mr_Rabies2 | <Corrodias> but i DO need SOME defense or resilience |
| 02:57.47 | Mr_Rabies2 | yeah you gotta pvp to tank :/ |
| 02:58.08 | Mr_Rabies2 | there's only 4 pieces of leather with defense, and only 1 worth getting |
| 02:58.14 | kd3 | seebs, any addons that use the combat log will need to be totally rewritten for 2.4 |
| 02:58.28 | seebs | Oh, great. |
| 02:58.33 | kd3 | buff timers, boss mods, combat log replacements, etc... |
| 02:58.53 | Mr_Rabies2 | damage meters |
| 02:59.12 | seebs | What kind of total rewrite are we talking about? Will there still exist events that you can watch for to detect things like "you gain aura X" or "you were hit for 200 damage"? |
| 02:59.19 | Mr_Rabies2 | threat meters |
| 02:59.23 | kd3 | none of those events will exist in 2.4 |
| 02:59.27 | seebs | Aya? |
| 02:59.29 | seebs | WTF. |
| 02:59.30 | Mr_Rabies2 | seebs: the events sytem is totally different |
| 02:59.32 | kd3 | there will be a single event that replaces everything now |
| 02:59.44 | seebs | A single event... That's either very good or very bad, depending on what that event is. |
| 02:59.57 | kd3 | take a look at the "upcoming 2.4 changes" thread in the US UI forum |
| 03:00.09 | kd3 | slouken's got a few posts on the new combat log on the front page |
| 03:00.22 | seebs | OMG. |
| 03:00.35 | seebs | When does 2.4 come out? I would HAPPILY scrap my current plan in favor of using that code. |
| 03:00.41 | kd3 | some time in 08 |
| 03:00.47 | kd3 | ya, we're all looking forward to it too |
| 03:01.16 | seebs | Hmm. |
| 03:01.29 | seebs | The thing is, if we're talking january, screw it, I can bumble along with AnnoyRP for another month or so. |
| 03:01.42 | seebs | If we're talking March, it might be worth writing Yet Another Bloody Log Parser and dealing with this later. |
| 03:01.47 | kd3 | 2.3.2 isn't happening this year, we've already heard about a 2.3.3 |
| 03:01.48 | NightHawkTheSane | "I just wanted to let you know we had someone come on board." "Zach, this is a space station. There's always someone coming on board." |
| 03:01.55 | kd3 | then 2.4's going to be on the ptr for a month most likely |
| 03:01.59 | Wobwork | hehe |
| 03:02.05 | Wobwork | I like the xckd Google logo |
| 03:02.15 | Wobwork | xkcd* |
| 03:02.21 | seebs | Well, then, I guess I have to bother parsing the old crap. Man, why couldn't they have done this in the FIRST place? |
| 03:02.48 | kd3 | because the designers have changed their minds in the past 3 years |
| 03:02.53 | reqol | so, I take it this isn't a good time to rewrite tank buddy, then? |
| 03:02.54 | Mr_Rabies2 | <Wobwork> I like the xckd Google logo |
| 03:02.55 | Mr_Rabies2 | waa? |
| 03:03.18 | kd3 | afaik, a lot of combat-log-parsing mods are more-or-less on hold til 2.4 |
| 03:03.56 | seebs | Yeah. |
| 03:04.11 | seebs | Well, in my case, combat-log-parsing is only about a third of my code, and it's pretty well isolated. |
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| 03:05.13 | Wobwork | Mr_Rabies: http://youtube.com/watch?v=zJOS0sV2a24 |
| 03:05.23 | Wobwork | It's a very long talk (1 hr) but it's a good one |
| 03:05.29 | Wobwork | and the logo is right at the end |
| 03:05.44 | kd3 | then it's the combat log parser bit that'll have to be replaced, the rest of your code shouldn't be affected more than the usual major wow version api churn |
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| 03:07.43 | Mr_Rabies2 | yeah, unless they bring more sweeping changes |
| 03:08.19 | Mr_Rabies2 | it's a possibility 2.4 will be the last patch before 3.0 or whatever wotlk will be |
| 03:08.41 | kd3 | I've seen it in blue that they're not planning a 2.5 |
| 03:09.51 | Guillotine | they said they aren't currently planning one, but that it still could be a possibliity |
| 03:10.55 | seebs | I'm pretty much unworried, my code's been running fine from 2.0 to 2.3 without noticable effort. |
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| 03:30.07 | Thunder_Child | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-GpTTf175aE |
| 03:36.45 | kd3 | huzzah! new PTR build and no UI changes |
| 03:37.00 | kd3 | guess that means the UI code freeze is in place since slouken already mentioned 2.3.3 |
| 03:37.40 | Thunder_Child | i thought i saw a post stating the next thing after 2.3.2 will be 2.4 |
| 03:38.07 | kd3 | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=2518903044&sid=1&pageNo=8#159 |
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| 03:38.35 | Thunder_Child | ah, newer post |
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| 03:39.16 | Thunder_Child | dpubt it |
| 03:39.39 | Thunder_Child | mose people are gone, e.g. any issues that come up from releasing a patch would be overwhelming |
| 03:39.49 | kd3 | I'm honestly surprised there are any blizz people in the office this late in the week |
| 03:39.53 | Thunder_Child | hence the fact they are doing restarts every dau |
| 03:40.00 | Thunder_Child | day* |
| 03:40.32 | Wobwork | Thunder_Child: re Business time <- rofl =P |
| 03:40.59 | Thunder_Child | Wobwork, so very stupid though |
| 03:41.02 | Wobwork | indeed |
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| 03:42.11 | Wobwork | Thunder_Child: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3de4kCQ-Gpc |
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| 03:43.37 | Corrodias | okay, i have a new feature request for Cartographer |
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| 03:43.50 | Thunder_Child | lol, Wobwork, thats great |
| 03:43.58 | FoxMcLeod | Yay, finally, I implemented Waterfall, now I belong to the popular but somewhat slight more lazy than average AddOn programmers Ace2AddOn Authors ^^ |
| 03:44.12 | FoxMcLeod | *slightly |
| 03:49.34 | seebs | Well, this is a mystery. I have an editbox, and I can get focus to it, but it ignores text. Is there something special you have to do to tell an edit box to accept input? |
| 03:51.22 | Iriel | Do you need to EnableKeyboard it? |
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| 03:55.01 | seebs | I probably do! |
| 03:55.12 | seebs | It's handling OnEscapePressed, so I didn't think of that. |
| 03:56.05 | seebs | Hmm. I guess that's not it. |
| 03:56.22 | Nargiddley | how did you create it ? |
| 03:57.09 | seebs | I'm a bit unclear on EnableKeyboard(); do I just call that at creation time, and trust the game to notice focus moving about? |
| 03:57.22 | seebs | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:57.30 | Nargiddley | do you set a fontstring ? |
| 03:57.34 | seebs | DOH! |
| 03:57.40 | Nargiddley | it might just not be displaying text |
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| 03:57.51 | FoxMcLeod | Ok, my next AddOn will be especially for hunters, it will automatically rename your pet to boar and answer tells alternating with "yes" and "no" |
| 03:58.20 | seebs | Heh. |
| 03:58.37 | seebs | Good catch, Nargiddley! |
| 03:58.52 | seebs | Would you believe I spent HALF AN HOUR on that? |
| 03:58.59 | Nargiddley | yes |
| 03:59.03 | Nargiddley | editboxes are the devil |
| 03:59.12 | seebs | I think I'm done for the day. I have a scrolling list of items, it has editboxes and buttons. |
| 03:59.25 | seebs | It's not much progress, but the other two scrolling lists will be MUCH simpler to implement. |
| 04:01.46 | seebs | And, furthermore, I have a design that should make it a lot easier to actually implement the guts of my addon... next week sometime when I have the time to do it. |
| 04:01.48 | seebs | *sigh* |
| 04:02.11 | FoxMcLeod | I know how you feel |
| 04:02.41 | seebs | I was supposed to have the weekend off, but someone forgot to ship the embedded system I'm supposed to debug, so I took Wednesday off to play with addons and will work Saturday instead. :) |
| 04:02.42 | Wobwork | omg |
| 04:02.49 | Wobwork | TION on youtube =) |
| 04:02.50 | Wobwork | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=onHTTy0Gp9k |
| 04:03.26 | Wobwork | best acapella ever |
| 04:06.41 | Wobwork | love this song, best arrangement ever: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xLpoEB_2JZ8&feature=related |
| 04:06.56 | Wobwork | Why is only Korea show these? =P |
| 04:07.39 | Thunder_Child | because no one else likes them? |
| 04:07.48 | Wobwork | Nah, it's a lack of exposure |
| 04:07.54 | Wobwork | all there shows here sell out |
| 04:08.01 | Wobwork | and live, they're fantastic |
| 04:08.25 | Wobwork | Then again, american acapella can be very... boring =) |
| 04:09.22 | Thunder_Child | to be honest while i find them very good, i dont find them very entertaining |
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| 04:11.20 | Wobwork | yeah, I guess acapella is very much a technical enjoyment at times |
| 04:11.28 | Wobwork | Live, however, they're very good |
| 04:11.43 | kergoth | what the heck.. i have: |
| 04:11.43 | kergoth | #show |
| 04:11.46 | kergoth | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:11.56 | kergoth | when i hit shift, it doesnt switch to the intimidation icon on the button |
| 04:12.22 | Wobwork | try pressing the other shift? |
| 04:12.50 | kergoth | oh thats weird, my rapid fire is on cd right now, cant use it.. when i hit shift, it shows a rapid fire icon without the cooldown display |
| 04:12.57 | kergoth | without shift down, it shows rapid fire icon but with the cooldown display |
| 04:13.00 | kergoth | which shift doesnt matter |
| 04:13.02 | kergoth | weird |
| 04:14.42 | Wobwork | Thunder_Child: for a technically fantastic one: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oQ1MEJaye_8&feature=user |
| 04:16.44 | Thunder_Child | Wobwork, actually i liked the first one of them you linked, i likrd it better because it was so subtle that you could hardly tell it was a cappella |
| 04:17.00 | Thunder_Child | that impressed me more than this |
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| 04:36.45 | NightHawkTheSane | dammit, can't blizzard at least tag their new items properly. Hot apple cider is just a "consumable" not "Food & Drink" |
| 04:37.04 | Corrodias | i think i'd like Cartographer to store Mining/Herbalism filter sets, so i can quickly turn them on and off |
| 04:37.15 | Thunder_Child | awww..having issues with autobar? (or osmething similar) |
| 04:37.25 | Corrodias | my map is so full of certain node locations, yet when i want to see them, i only want to see a certain 10 or so |
| 04:37.43 | Thunder_Child | Corrodias, if your using cart you can filter |
| 04:37.50 | NightHawkTheSane | actually, no, its baggins. And it's only a minor issue, just putting them in the "wrong" category. *shrug* i'll live, but it irks my anal-retentive sensibilities. :) |
| 04:40.00 | Corrodias | i know, Thunder_Child, but it takes a minute to find and toggle the ones i want |
| 04:40.06 | Corrodias | what would be nice is if it could store sets of filters |
| 04:40.49 | NightHawkTheSane | hm, that reminds me to toggle off flame caps and khorium |
| 04:41.07 | Corrodias | OFF khorium? |
| 04:41.33 | NightHawkTheSane | yeah, its just a rare spawn on other nodes, so (because I'm using cart_data) i just get a metric fuckton of duplicate nodes |
| 04:41.42 | Corrodias | oooh. that's too bad. |
| 04:41.46 | NightHawkTheSane | same with flame caps |
| 04:41.58 | Corrodias | i think the database i download from has duplicates largely removed by a program they run on it |
| 04:42.15 | NightHawkTheSane | Oh? you use cartographer, right? what db do you use? |
| 04:43.10 | Corrodias | http://www.leanwalk.com/Cart/ |
| 04:43.51 | Corrodias | seems a little outdated, but then, i doubt they've changed much |
| 04:43.57 | NightHawkTheSane | yeah |
| 04:44.20 | NightHawkTheSane | although, i do recall some mining nodes were changed in outland, don't recall when though |
| 04:44.30 | Corrodias | before october, i expect |
| 04:44.40 | Corrodias | still, i wonder why he's stopped updating |
| 04:45.00 | NightHawkTheSane | probably. My memory is pretty shit though. |
| 04:45.08 | Thunder_Child | just wow http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xui7x_KF7bY |
| 04:45.16 | NightHawkTheSane | laziness, forgetfulness, or both :P |
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| 04:48.50 | NightHawkTheSane | ~lart Thunder_Child |
| 04:48.50 | purl | keeps mailing Thunder_Child free America Online CDs until he drowns |
| 04:49.03 | Shirik | ~lart NightHawkTheSane |
| 04:49.03 | purl | blames NightHawkTheSane for all the evil in the world |
| 04:49.04 | Thunder_Child | but...WHY?? |
| 04:49.15 | Thunder_Child | ~why NightHawkTheSane |
| 04:49.16 | purl | why not? |
| 04:49.21 | Thunder_Child | lol |
| 04:49.22 | NightHawkTheSane | Shirik: and purl'd be right, too. |
| 04:49.32 | MentalPower | gnight all |
| 04:49.33 | Shirik | ~botsnack |
| 04:49.33 | purl | thanks, Shirik |
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| 04:51.52 | NightHawkTheSane | oh for fucks sake, appletv's don't have vi installed? |
| 04:52.13 | Shirik | uhh |
| 04:52.15 | Shirik | why should they >< |
| 04:52.22 | NightHawkTheSane | so i can hack them properly, thats why. :P |
| 04:52.27 | Shirik | loo |
| 04:52.33 | Shirik | that's like saying |
| 04:52.55 | Shirik | "ffs, the iphone's executable memory isn't writeable?!" |
| 04:52.56 | NightHawkTheSane | they have ed and awk installed, and perl, and sed. |
| 04:53.23 | NightHawkTheSane | so its not as if i -cant- edit files. its just a lot more painful |
| 04:53.34 | Shirik | intentional most likely |
| 04:53.38 | NightHawkTheSane | yeah, i know. |
| 04:53.57 | Shirik|zZz | night |
| 04:54.02 | NightHawkTheSane | its just that it may be the first time i've ever seen the message "vi: command not found" |
| 04:54.16 | Shirik|zZz | better than |
| 04:54.21 | Shirik|zZz | apt-get install <program> |
| 04:54.38 | Shirik|zZz | apt-get: This program is not installed. To install it, run the command "apt-get install apt" |
| 04:54.55 | NightHawkTheSane | hahAH, that's awesome. |
| 04:56.29 | Shirik|zZz | screw sed |
| 04:56.33 | Shirik|zZz | anyway, night |
| 04:56.48 | NightHawkTheSane | night. :P |
| 04:58.36 | sag_ich_nicht | no commits on SVN make sag_ich_nicht something something |
| 04:59.22 | Thunder_Child | get horny? |
| 05:18.03 | Fin | waaay ahead of you |
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| 05:23.15 | Thunder_Child | hah, it's so cold any windy outside that after opening my window my computer went from ~96 deg. to ~83 |
| 05:23.24 | Thunder_Child | s/any/and/ |
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| 05:30.35 | Wobin_ | It's currently.... just under 30degC here |
| 05:32.35 | NightHawkTheSane | Wobin_: what's that in fucked-if-i'm-going-to-accede-to-your-crazy-hippie-measurements degrees? |
| 05:32.45 | NightHawkTheSane | ;) |
| 05:34.18 | Thunder_Child | 86 |
| 05:34.55 | Wobin_ | So, warmer than Thunder's CPU =) |
| 05:35.17 | Thunder_Child | it's really windy outside |
| 05:52.45 | sag_ich_nicht | http://img176.imageshack.us/img176/6560/roflcoptergm3.jpg |
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| 06:36.18 | art3mis | okay as much as i hate to say it |
| 06:36.30 | art3mis | smallbusiness server 2k3 from MS is REALLY nice |
| 06:37.31 | art3mis | the wizards to set everyhing up is really nice, dhcp just works with no config as does vpn and adding a computer to the domain, remote conenctions exchange setup everything |
| 06:38.42 | art3mis | i feel kind of dirty saying that |
| 06:40.32 | Thunder_Child | i know you feel dirty but it has nothing to o with MS |
| 06:40.38 | Thunder_Child | s/o/do/ |
| 06:40.46 | Thunder_Child | ... |
| 06:41.48 | Thunder_Child | anyone know how to stop cd-rom drive spooling? |
| 06:43.03 | art3mis | cd spooling? |
| 06:43.12 | Thunder_Child | where it spins up |
| 06:43.18 | art3mis | the autoplay crap? |
| 06:43.35 | Thunder_Child | no, where it spins up when you open my computer or something similar |
| 06:43.39 | art3mis | like "what do you wanna do with this colume" stuff? |
| 06:43.44 | Thunder_Child | no |
| 06:43.45 | art3mis | oh |
| 06:43.51 | art3mis | i dont have that issue |
| 06:43.57 | art3mis | mine only spins up if i click it |
| 06:44.01 | Thunder_Child | do you keep a disk in the drive? |
| 06:44.07 | art3mis | turn off fast indexing/fastsearch? |
| 06:44.13 | art3mis | most of the time yeah |
| 06:44.52 | Thunder_Child | my drive does not have an indexing option |
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| 06:59.02 | NightHawkTheSane | hah, regarding DNF trailer.. "But what are we going to use to define vaporware now?" |
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| 07:08.59 | reqol | is there a [noform] conditional? |
| 07:09.51 | Iriel | [nostance] I think |
| 07:10.04 | reqol | okay, thanks Iriel :) |
| 07:11.31 | Thunder_Child | NightHawkTheSane, though after 10 years makes one wonder why they would release it now |
| 07:11.38 | NightHawkTheSane | i know, really' |
| 07:12.07 | reqol | I'm trying to make a bear form toggle button |
| 07:12.25 | reqol | but I don't know how to get stopmacro to work in conjunction with it |
| 07:12.32 | NightHawkTheSane | what do you want the macro to do? |
| 07:13.42 | reqol | okay |
| 07:13.51 | reqol | I click it once, it turns on dire bear form if I'm in it, it turns it off if I'm not |
| 07:13.55 | reqol | and that's it |
| 07:14.18 | reqol | you can't do /cancelform [stance:1] /cast Dire Bear Form [nostance] because it does it twice in a row |
| 07:15.01 | Nargiddley | just put dire bear on the button |
| 07:15.48 | NightHawkTheSane | ^^ ? |
| 07:15.56 | reqol | I'm pretty sure he's tried that, let me ask though |
| 07:16.22 | reqol | he says it works one way, only puts you into bear form |
| 07:16.26 | reqol | doesn't take you out |
| 07:16.31 | NightHawkTheSane | yeah, thats a lie. :P |
| 07:16.47 | Nargiddley | /cast Dire Bear Form in a macro will keep shifting you back in |
| 07:16.54 | Nargiddley | the skill on a button will toggle |
| 07:21.25 | Thunder_Child | heh, itunes is about to take a crap |
| 07:21.38 | Thunder_Child | adding 10K+ songs at once to it |
| 07:21.44 | reqol | Wow. |
| 07:22.11 | Thunder_Child | i managed to get rid of almost 6000 music files |
| 07:22.18 | Thunder_Child | most were doubles |
| 07:22.55 | Thunder_Child | i wish it wouldnt copy doubles in it |
| 07:23.01 | reqol | we figured out his problem: he wasn't using char specific keybindings and he didn't want to screw up his paladin's auras. thanks for the help guys |
| 07:24.05 | Thunder_Child | uhh...wtf? http://gizmodo.com/336576/windows-media-player-11-is-useful-it-cuts-wow-load-times-by-up-to-50-percent |
| 07:30.57 | Corrodias | the mechanics are not totally understood |
| 07:31.07 | Corrodias | but i don't have WMP11 anyway |
| 07:34.23 | art3mis | okay here's a dumb question |
| 07:34.38 | art3mis | ya know how when you delete a file in an imap folder it just crosses it out |
| 07:34.39 | NightHawkTheSane | ooh, I have a dumb answer |
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| 07:34.49 | art3mis | is there a way to make it actually go away? |
| 07:34.59 | art3mis | like right then? |
| 07:35.11 | NightHawkTheSane | o_0 when I delete messages via imap, they go away immediately |
| 07:35.29 | art3mis | hrm wonder why mine just cross outbefore delete then |
| 07:36.27 | NightHawkTheSane | no idea, might be some client setting? |
| 07:37.43 | Thunder_Child | "1.30 GB (332 hashfails)" :( |
| 07:38.04 | Thunder_Child | s/"1/"Wasted: 1/ |
| 07:39.32 | art3mis | weak |
| 07:39.42 | art3mis | appearantly you need to do a second step called "purge" on the fodler |
| 07:39.44 | art3mis | folder |
| 07:39.49 | Xuerian | Thunder_Child: Old news is old |
| 07:40.02 | Thunder_Child | Xuerian, hmmm? |
| 07:40.54 | Xuerian | Thunder_Child: We've been hearing about it for weeks; nay, months... WMP recieves special media scheduling and wow partially inherits it |
| 07:41.40 | Thunder_Child | we as in people from EU? |
| 07:41.51 | Xuerian | We as in people in this chat room |
| 07:42.13 | Thunder_Child | well it managed to be talked about when i wasnt looking |
| 07:42.41 | Thunder_Child | which would be anytime from about 2am till noon my time |
| 07:45.51 | Thunder_Child | "Patch 2.4 will raise the cap of Daily quests allowed in a day from 10 to 25." |
| 07:45.53 | Thunder_Child | nice |
| 07:46.10 | Xuerian | Seeing as it's introducing probably 10+ new dailys yeah |
| 07:47.06 | Thunder_Child | "At the release of the patch, players will access a small expedition camp where they can start questing. However as the questing progresses, players will expand the camp and make it grow to a small town by retaking building to the enemies (running daily quests mostly). You can consider it as a AQ Gates opening event, the more daily quests that gets done, the faster the whole server will progress." |
| 07:47.20 | Thunder_Child | i dunno how well thats really gonna work |
| 07:47.40 | art3mis | "we've just decided to make dailies easier, go to the mob and click once you'll be credited as though you completed the max allowed and will gain the associated rewards." |
| 07:48.15 | Corrodias | "In addition, all loot drops are being upgraded to epic quality." |
| 07:48.15 | art3mis | woo!@ |
| 07:48.28 | Thunder_Child | "Both 5-man and 25-man dungeons will be accessible from the start, but some bosses will have to be unlocked by running the daily quests (server-wide) and/or leveling your reputation. The 5-man instance will most likely requires Honored reputation with The Shattered Sun Offensive, the first three bosses of the 25-man instance will be accessible from the start, while the three last ones will have to be unlocked through questi |
| 07:48.31 | art3mis | Thunder_Child: that could be pretty rad if you think in wc1/2/3 terms |
| 07:48.46 | art3mis | if THAT works |
| 07:48.48 | Thunder_Child | what i mean is that i doubt most people will pay attention |
| 07:48.49 | Xuerian | Sounds like they're prepping for wotlk pvp-like towns and such |
| 07:48.55 | art3mis | it allows for the mbos to take back buildings and such |
| 07:49.03 | art3mis | and seiges! |
| 07:49.14 | Thunder_Child | "Kael'thas will be one of the boss of the 5-man dungeon, he's still alive and he's now got a huge green crystal etched to his chest." |
| 07:49.22 | Thunder_Child | "Kil'jaeden will be the final boss of the 25-man instance. The other bosses include Brutalicus, a giant Pit Lord who has lost his wings, Kalecgos, a blue dragon enslaved by Kil'jaeden, a Fel Dragon, the female Eredar Twins, and a Dark Naaru." |
| 07:50.04 | Corrodias | female Eredar Twins |
| 07:50.12 | Corrodias | yum |
| 07:50.23 | Thunder_Child | great, Corrodias just got wet |
| 07:50.29 | Thunder_Child | a mental image i didnt need |
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| 07:50.52 | Thunder_Child | " The 25-man instance will be slightly harder than Black Temple, and is tuned for Tier 6 geared players." |
| 07:50.52 | Thunder_Child | " There will not be any "real" Tier 7 set, but some of the drops will be set pieces (not necessarily class specific). The drops quality will be above T6." |
| 07:52.15 | Xuerian | It's reaching critical mass |
| 07:54.36 | Xuerian | Instances are getting to the point where anyone leveling now will never see the second or third teir of instances... Then again, the timing is pretty good, considering WotLK coming out, the cap going up, and the leveling run getting that much longer... And whole new instances to make everything else obsolete |
| 07:55.24 | NightHawkTheSane | Xuerian: it was the same before bc *shrug* |
| 07:55.47 | Xuerian | That's pretty much what I'm saying |
| 07:56.26 | Xuerian | It's a shame though... Instances like naxx going to waste |
| 07:57.17 | Tem | why do you think naxx is the first raid of WotLK? |
| 07:58.01 | NightHawkTheSane | Xuerian: thats one thing that's always bothered me about wow's raid model |
| 07:58.14 | Xuerian | tem: >_> |
| 07:58.25 | Xuerian | So that's how they're pushing it out this fast! |
| 07:58.48 | |Pixel| | now let's bet on the release date of wrath :) |
| 07:59.52 | Tem | I don't see it coming sooner than fall 08 |
| 08:00.45 | art3mis | unless its 30 new levels |
| 08:01.01 | |Pixel| | ? |
| 08:01.01 | art3mis | an entire new continent, and at least another 1000 quests |
| 08:01.07 | art3mis | it's just gonna be mroe of the same |
| 08:01.16 | art3mis | cept well have more death knights ;P |
| 08:01.18 | |Pixel| | it's gonna be 80 |
| 08:01.27 | |Pixel| | level 80 in total, that is |
| 08:01.31 | art3mis | yeah doing 10 levels at a time is retarded |
| 08:02.18 | art3mis | the content doesnt support only 10 levels |
| 08:02.27 | art3mis | once you get to 80 it's more the boring same |
| 08:02.38 | art3mis | i rather doubt that people will put up with that much longer |
| 08:03.04 | art3mis | not to mention they'll have WHO possibly to compete with thts entirely neqw |
| 08:03.06 | art3mis | new |
| 08:03.27 | art3mis | tough call, 50 bucks+15/mn for same shit new pile or a new style and new things to learn |
| 08:09.48 | Wobin_ | <Thunder_Child> great, Corrodias just got wet <- Is Corrodias Corrodiating? |
| 08:10.40 | Xuerian | art3mis: Yeah, expansion prices are a bit steep... |
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| 08:15.14 | Thunder_Child | Wobin_, you make me ill |
| 08:18.57 | NightHawkTheSane | oh man i need dinner |
| 08:27.06 | Tem | sigh |
| 08:27.12 | Tierrie | OOOH |
| 08:27.13 | Tem | prince fight is gay |
| 08:27.14 | Tierrie | Hellboy Trailer |
| 08:27.19 | Tierrie | this is up there with jumper trailer |
| 08:27.22 | Tem | oh, you're at 10%? |
| 08:27.29 | Tem | why don't I drop an infernal on your face |
| 08:27.38 | Tem | that'd be cool, right? |
| 08:27.47 | Thunder_Child | Tierrie, the movie? |
| 08:27.55 | Tierrie | Jumper the movie yah |
| 08:27.58 | Tierrie | http://www.traileraddict.com/trailer/hellboy-ii-golden-army/trailer |
| 08:28.02 | Tierrie | hellboy 2 trailer |
| 08:28.05 | Thunder_Child | oh, 2 |
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| 08:28.16 | Tierrie | 2008 is going to rock |
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| 08:28.23 | Thunder_Child | i'm surprised, hellboy didnt do all that well |
| 08:28.27 | Tierrie | Batman, Hellboy, Jumper |
| 08:28.41 | Tierrie | maybe Wolverine and Magneto |
| 08:28.42 | Tierrie | Ironman |
| 08:28.45 | Thunder_Child | jumper i have not hear of |
| 08:28.48 | Thunder_Child | heard* |
| 08:28.52 | Tierrie | you should see the trailer for that |
| 08:28.53 | Corrodias | well, my video card has started freaking out, so it's time for my reboot |
| 08:29.08 | Corrodias | not a bad run. it's been 55 days. |
| 08:29.20 | Tierrie | its got that guy from Spider-Man, Peter Parker's friend, the dude. |
| 08:30.22 | Thunder_Child | personally i am looking forward to national treasure, i really like that |
| 08:30.25 | Thunder_Child | liked* |
| 08:31.33 | Tierrie | me too |
| 08:31.39 | Tierrie | but NT is this year 2007 |
| 08:31.54 | Tierrie | in fact i think its next week |
| 08:32.16 | Tierrie | Ironman looked really good too |
| 08:32.24 | Thunder_Child | today |
| 08:32.27 | Thunder_Child | actually |
| 08:32.30 | Tierrie | oh nifty |
| 08:32.36 | Thunder_Child | hmm...must go see that |
| 08:32.51 | Tierrie | HB2 needs to load faster |
| 08:32.55 | Tierrie | faster internet, faster! |
| 08:33.35 | Xuerian | The bad guy from HBII looks kindof cheesy |
| 08:33.56 | Thunder_Child | jumper does indeed look interesting |
| 08:34.06 | Xuerian | geiv link |
| 08:34.22 | Thunder_Child | http://www.apple.com/trailers/fox/jumper/trailer/large.html |
| 08:34.31 | art3mis | ahh it's good to be back on dvi |
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| 08:34.32 | Thunder_Child | thanks for waiting to ask till AFTER i closed it... |
| 08:34.39 | Xuerian | welcome |
| 08:34.47 | Thunder_Child | bastard! |
| 08:34.57 | art3mis | never realized how badly analog sucked before |
| 08:35.36 | Xuerian | bleh screw quicktime |
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| 08:43.30 | Xuerian | Thunder_Child: Hah, does look pretty good. watched it on stage6, though, not teh apple suck |
| 08:43.49 | Thunder_Child | Xuerian, same vid diff format. w/e |
| 08:44.01 | Tierrie | have you guys seen the ironman trailer? that is good too |
| 08:44.08 | Xuerian | is srys businss!!!!11 =O |
| 08:44.19 | Thunder_Child | that one i saw in theaters |
| 08:44.51 | Thunder_Child | Xuerian, stop hating, you will live longer |
| 08:45.03 | Xuerian | :( |
| 08:45.08 | Xuerian | but hating is fun |
| 08:45.52 | Thunder_Child | aye, and so is drugs, but neither are good for you |
| 08:46.12 | Xuerian | bah. |
| 08:50.16 | Tierrie | haha that HB2 villian is a mix between Legolas, Lucius Malfoy and Christopher Walken |
| 08:52.27 | buu | Is that good or bad? |
| 08:53.00 | Tierrie | i liked Legolas and Lucius Malfoy |
| 08:53.07 | buu | I'm sorry. |
| 08:53.07 | art3mis | http://www.saitek.com/uk/prod/cykey.htm |
| 08:53.09 | Tierrie | but Christopher Walken style delivery cracks me up |
| 08:53.18 | Tierrie | I. Must. Talk. Like. Shatner. |
| 08:53.51 | Tierrie | art3mis I like simple keyboards that cyborg keyboard has way too many unnecesary edges |
| 08:53.57 | Tierrie | and the layout hasn't changed |
| 08:54.01 | Tierrie | its not even split |
| 08:54.20 | art3mis | split == tehsuhk |
| 08:54.24 | art3mis | i cant stand em |
| 08:54.29 | art3mis | i just thought it was awesome |
| 08:54.31 | Thunder_Child | i want an lcars keyboard...i think i am going to have to make my own |
| 08:54.36 | art3mis | cuz it's got blinkies and stuff |
| 08:54.53 | Thunder_Child | first i will try it on whatever tablet i get |
| 08:55.08 | art3mis | thunder did you see that link i posted lasxt night about the wiimote making anything a tablet and writeable electronic whiteboard? |
| 08:55.11 | Tierrie | i got to say, selma blair turns me on something crazy |
| 08:55.20 | Thunder_Child | art3mis, no |
| 08:55.42 | art3mis | http://www.cs.cmu.edu/~johnny/projects/wii/ |
| 08:55.45 | art3mis | watch the videos |
| 08:56.50 | art3mis | brb |
| 08:57.21 | Tierrie | you know what confounds me |
| 08:57.27 | Thunder_Child | life |
| 08:57.32 | Tierrie | tancredo gave up and he endorsed romney |
| 08:57.39 | Tierrie | ok so you suck so bad you had to quit |
| 08:57.52 | Tierrie | and you have no supporters |
| 08:57.59 | Tierrie | so who are you exactly handing off to romney? |
| 08:58.05 | Tierrie | your immediate family? |
| 08:58.34 | Tierrie | this is like highlander, except its the weakest immortal ever killed |
| 08:58.47 | Tierrie | it may not even be worth your time getting his head |
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| 09:04.55 | art3mis | pretty neat huh? |
| 09:05.12 | Thunder_Child | art3mis, i have no idea |
| 09:05.22 | Thunder_Child | flash doesnt seem to be liking me tonight |
| 09:05.28 | art3mis | oh thats too bad |
| 09:05.35 | Thunder_Child | though from what i have read i have already seen the finger based one |
| 09:06.13 | art3mis | essentially the gist is that since the wiimote has a 45degree line of sight for IR reads you can make an ir pen out of an ir led and a battery, hack wire it to yer pc and turn any surface including the lcd into a touch pad |
| 09:07.04 | Thunder_Child | hmm..that would be a good hack for surface if it cant already do that |
| 09:09.47 | [Liquidor] | How come I get no error messages when my addon fails? (I know it makes an error, but there's no messages ingame at all) Is there a new variable/option to enable in order to see errors while playing? |
| 09:13.34 | Thunder_Child | yes |
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| 09:28.09 | art3mis | man new rambo is gonna be great! |
| 09:28.22 | art3mis | mindless violence and things blowing up |
| 09:28.48 | art3mis | "YOU DREW FIRST BLOOD NOT ME!! NOT ME!" |
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| 09:42.53 | [Liquidor] | I'd like to show my numbers in this format: 999.999.999 instead of 999999999. How do I achieve this? Or... where do I read more about it? |
| 09:43.09 | Thunder_Child | ~pil |
| 09:43.10 | purl | Programming in Lua, a book written by the authors of the Lua programming language. The first edition is available free online at http://www.lua.org/pil and covers Lua 5.0. The second edition is available in print from most online bookstores, and covers Lua 5.1. |
| 09:43.29 | Thunder_Child | or would that be a wow api thing.... |
| 09:43.51 | Thunder_Child | eh, try pil first |
| 09:44.10 | [Liquidor] | well I've read it |
| 09:44.30 | [Liquidor] | and im searching but cant find what im looking for |
| 09:44.50 | Thunder_Child | i dont know offhand, i dont code in lua |
| 09:45.57 | [Liquidor] | well what is the term of adding dots to your numbers? I thought it was "punctuation" ('m not English) |
| 09:46.15 | krka | you have to make a manual number formatter |
| 09:46.40 | [Liquidor] | Quite difficult to search for something you don't know what's called. It's not like I can google "MOAR DOTS MOAR DOTS" :) |
| 09:46.57 | Thunder_Child | you can...and you will even get something |
| 09:47.03 | [Liquidor] | heh |
| 09:47.26 | Thunder_Child | i think the word you are looking for is "decimal" |
| 09:47.34 | [Liquidor] | well |
| 09:47.37 | Kirkburn-bf|afk | Tem|Sleep, you know there was an image of it passing Acid2? |
| 09:47.43 | [Liquidor] | it's on the left side of the decimal |
| 09:50.18 | [Liquidor] | uhm doesn't seem like there's a function for that. |
| 09:50.34 | [Liquidor] | gotta make my own then |
| 09:51.01 | Thunder_Child | Kirkburn-bf|afk, http://blogs.msdn.com/ie/archive/2007/12/19/internet-explorer-8-and-acid2-a-milestone.aspx |
| 09:51.24 | Kirkburn-bf|afk | I didn't include an "if" in my question :P |
| 09:51.40 | Thunder_Child | meh, i am tired |
| 09:51.41 | Kirkburn-bf|afk | I thought posting the entire commit log was a bit extreme though |
| 09:51.53 | Kirkburn-bf|afk | But I guess there's a lot of doubters out there :P |
| 09:53.21 | Thunder_Child | [Liquidor], http://www.wowwiki.com/API_format ? |
| 09:54.41 | [Liquidor] | Thunder_Child, nah |
| 09:55.39 | [Liquidor] | http://pastebin.ca/826633 |
| 10:00.54 | amro | Kirkburn-bf|afk: methinks MS might have waited this long to hurt web applications and promote their desktop software, but now other browsers are gaining too much momentum |
| 10:01.47 | Kirkburn-bf|afk | There's also the not wanting to break the web thing |
| 10:02.41 | amro | actually, its closer to "keeping the broken web", in other words it will still be a bitch to get certain web developers to comply with standards |
| 10:03.15 | Kirkburn-bf|afk | Well, and there's websites that are no longer being developed |
| 10:05.27 | Kalroth | MSIE ftw YEAH!! |
| 10:06.07 | amro | will it be availble for XP? |
| 10:06.29 | Kalroth | [Liquidor]: It's called ellipsis |
| 10:06.34 | Kalroth | [Liquidor]: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ellipsis |
| 10:06.36 | Kirkburn-bf|afk | amro, yes, afaik |
| 10:06.36 | [Liquidor] | Thanks Kalroth |
| 10:06.58 | amro | without that genuine advantage bullshit? |
| 10:07.04 | Kalroth | amro: haha |
| 10:07.07 | Kirkburn-bf|afk | They've given no indication of dropping XP support, plus it would hurt them eventually |
| 10:07.45 | Kirkburn-bf|afk | You should buy a legit copy of XP? I guess probably WGA at first, but likely dropped later like they did with IE7 |
| 10:08.30 | amro | I do have one, but most, if not all of my website's audience don't |
| 10:08.55 | nevcairiel | is IE8 the only browser rendering the acid2 test correctly? |
| 10:09.10 | Kirkburn-bf|afk | nevcairiel, FF beta 2 and Opera do |
| 10:09.13 | amro | actually a significant portion of XP users worldwide don't |
| 10:09.15 | Kirkburn-bf|afk | FF3 B2, I mean |
| 10:09.20 | nevcairiel | my FF3 B2 looks wrong on it |
| 10:09.30 | Kirkburn-bf|afk | Dammit, Fx3 B2 (I'll get it right someday) |
| 10:09.40 | Kirkburn-bf|afk | nevcairiel, I think a serverside misconfig broke it |
| 10:10.02 | nevcairiel | lol |
| 10:11.40 | Kirkburn-bf|afk | I *think* an error page reported the wrong error, causing it to not deprecate or whatever properly |
| 10:12.12 | nevcairiel | it looks really totally screwed up in IE7 tho =P |
| 10:12.16 | Kirkburn-bf|afk | :) |
| 10:12.40 | Kirkburn-bf|afk | First IE8 beta will come first half of next year (still not soon enough!) |
| 10:12.53 | Kirkburn-bf|afk | Naturally, I will be using it :P |
| 10:13.17 | nevcairiel | I'm pretty happy with the FF beta now :P |
| 10:14.16 | amro | by the way, KHTML passed Acid2 a while back =) |
| 10:15.00 | nevcairiel | hm there are some cool .css features being tested in that test that i didnt even know existed |
| 10:15.17 | nevcairiel | like :before and :after |
| 10:15.42 | Kirkburn-bf|afk | Useful for clearing, iirc |
| 10:16.38 | amro | they're oddly inconsistent in naming their source files |
| 10:17.33 | Kirkburn-bf|afk | Wouldn't say it's too surprising given how long IE has been developed for |
| 10:17.43 | Kirkburn-bf|afk | (And also not developed for) |
| 10:18.26 | amro | I wouldn't resist writing a script to clean it up a bit, esp since windows filesystems are case insensitive |
| 10:20.20 | Kirkburn-bf|afk | Find it odd that it still has longhorn in the name |
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| 10:30.47 | Fin | it's a very longhorn |
| 10:31.41 | Fin | the chronichorn |
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| 10:33.57 | [Liquidor] | yarr im done: http://i19.tinypic.com/834y8mg.jpg |
| 10:34.32 | Kalroth | What's that? |
| 10:35.00 | [Liquidor] | something fugly I made |
| 10:35.22 | Cide | pleaaaaaase change the font |
| 10:35.27 | Cide | for the numbers |
| 10:35.28 | [Liquidor] | heh i am |
| 10:35.36 | [Liquidor] | gonna redesign it now when the lua part is complete |
| 10:35.50 | Kalroth | Don't listen to Cide, I like it! |
| 10:35.59 | Cide | I'm always right |
| 10:36.04 | [Liquidor] | lol you do? who likes outlines on numbers? |
| 10:36.11 | Cide | he's just lying |
| 10:36.20 | [Liquidor] | ino |
| 10:36.39 | Kalroth | Cide is swedish, I rest my case |
| 10:36.43 | [Liquidor] | uhm what is the tooltip path for the backdrop? |
| 10:36.57 | Cide | the path for the tooltip backdrop? :P |
| 10:37.04 | [Liquidor] | yeye |
| 10:37.06 | [Liquidor] | w/e |
| 10:37.24 | [Liquidor] | im a dummy when it comes to xml |
| 10:37.44 | Cide | spam inc, sorry |
| 10:37.46 | Cide | local tooltipBackdrop = { bgFile="Interface\\Tooltips\\UI-Tooltip-Background", |
| 10:37.46 | Cide | edgeFile = "Interface\\Tooltips\\UI-Tooltip-Border", |
| 10:37.46 | Cide | tile = true, tileSize = 16, edgeSize = 16, |
| 10:37.46 | Cide | insets = { left = 5, right = 5, top = 5, bottom = 5 }}; |
| 10:37.58 | Kalroth | a tooltip backgroup path doesn't have anything to do with XML! |
| 10:38.05 | [Liquidor] | I don't care |
| 10:38.14 | [Liquidor] | he knew what I meant, that's what matters... and lasagne |
| 10:39.00 | [Liquidor] | I just wish I knew how to create this frame with lua instead of .xml |
| 10:39.20 | [Liquidor] | so I would be able to create dynamic data |
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| 14:01.30 | Lunessa | Merry Feast of the Pig. |
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| 14:27.48 | malreth | woohoo! it's friday! |
| 14:31.12 | Lunessa | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=3547878283&sid=1 - am I alone in thinking this is going to get stamped "Denied" as being 1) not all that useful, 2) too much automation? |
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| 14:33.29 | Lopeppeppy | Anyone who is making a suggestion that includes the line "Whether these ... is a matter that makes my head hurt so I will defer to more knowledgeable people." -- just should not be making a suggestion. They haven't a complete suggestion to make. |
| 14:34.01 | malreth | at first glance, it seems like something that the secure state templates already provide |
| 14:34.22 | malreth | if anything, cog could add explicit state variables to MacroSequence |
| 14:34.38 | malreth | i think... secure state templates weren't ever my bag |
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| 14:35.15 | Lunessa | He just doesn't want to learn secure states so he wants macros to have secure states |
| 14:35.26 | Lopeppeppy | Lazy Mode. |
| 14:38.42 | Lunessa | I think that anything that needs secure states to do it's function is out of the macro realm anyway. |
| 14:44.30 | malreth | i'm thinking of switching to using a wacom tablet as a mouse replacement for WoW |
| 14:44.38 | malreth | dunno how well it will work, tho |
| 14:44.46 | Taeri | I doubt it will work all that well 0.o |
| 14:44.49 | Taeri | I've tried it once |
| 14:45.07 | malreth | i figure i'll get the Bamboo... the scroll wheel on it should work for camera zooming |
| 14:45.20 | Taeri | I want the Bamboo so bad. ;__; |
| 14:45.24 | Lunessa | malreth: Let me know how it works for you. I'm all about alternative pointing devices. |
| 14:45.28 | malreth | and the pen has the capability for two mouse buttons |
| 14:45.50 | malreth | if i switch the tablet to mouse mode, it might work |
| 14:46.17 | malreth | i'd have to remap mouse 3-5 elsewhere, tho |
| 14:46.42 | malreth | well, actually, i don't use mouse3... mouse 4 flips the camera yaw and mouse 5 activates PTT on vent |
| 14:47.28 | malreth | and the annoying thing that i see is i'd have to drop the stylus to type and then pick it back up |
| 14:47.44 | malreth | or somehow keep it in my hand as i try to chat |
| 14:48.32 | Lunessa | Right, that's the part that makes me think it wouldn't work too well. |
| 14:49.05 | malreth | on the plus side, i could use the tablet in photoshop for photo retouching. the mouse is very cucumbersome for that |
| 14:49.50 | malreth | and it would reduce wrist strain quite a bit as it uses a more natural hand position |
| 14:49.56 | malreth | which is my primary concern |
| 14:50.30 | malreth | when i group up with guildies, we tend to use vent regardless... and the main person that i duo with sits right behind me so i can just yell at her |
| 14:51.30 | malreth | at best, it reduces my right hand pain... at worst, i'm out $80 |
| 14:51.45 | Lopeppeppy | malreth, have you looked at those vertical mice? Those look neat, but are a bit more expensive.... |
| 14:51.57 | malreth | i have a vertical mouse already |
| 14:51.59 | Lopeppeppy | $80 sounds fine for something you'd at least be using with Photoshop. |
| 14:52.09 | malreth | it hasn't really helped as much as i hoped |
| 14:52.37 | zenzelezz | I could never use a vertical mouse... could never shake the mental picture of the similarity with various other vertical objects |
| 14:53.01 | Lopeppeppy | I'm a girl, I have no problem at all with vertical objects in my hand. |
| 14:53.09 | malreth | zenzelezz: i solve that problem by masturbating regularly on set schedules no matter what |
| 14:53.16 | zenzelezz | you're bad peppy |
| 14:53.18 | Lopeppeppy | That works too, malreth. |
| 14:53.22 | Lunessa | malreth: I have CTS in both wrists and early onset arthritis, I use a Logitech TrackMan three-button trackball. Works very nicely for my needs. |
| 14:53.22 | Lopeppeppy | and yes I am, zenzelezz. |
| 14:53.34 | malreth | consequently, no one ever comes over to visit us for dinner. :( |
| 14:53.42 | zenzelezz | malreth: we all do, but some of us still can't shake the image |
| 14:53.47 | Lunessa | OMG Peppy. That was priceless. |
| 14:53.56 | Lopeppeppy | I try, Lunessa. *winks* |
| 14:53.57 | zenzelezz | it's pretty easy to feel that it's not your own vertical object you're holding |
| 14:54.27 | Lopeppeppy | That's your own imagination you've gotta rein in, zenzelezz. Watch different kinds of movies, it helps. |
| 14:54.31 | malreth | zenzelezz: she's talking about her mixing whisk... she does bake you know |
| 14:54.48 | malreth | it's important to have a sturdy whisk when mixing ingredients |
| 14:54.54 | Lopeppeppy | I sooo need a KitchenAid, whisking is totally 80's. |
| 14:55.07 | malreth | whisking builds character and strong forearms |
| 14:55.16 | Lunessa | Whisking is good for a quickie though. |
| 14:55.37 | Lopeppeppy | For something quick, whip out the whisk. For something long and messy, a power tool is in order. |
| 14:55.52 | zenzelezz | <Lopeppeppy> That's your own imagination you've gotta rein in, zenzelezz. Watch different kinds of movies, it helps <--- there's a reason I exclusively watch girl-girl movies |
| 14:56.07 | malreth | i don't think we're talking about baking anymore... <_< >_> |
| 14:56.26 | zenzelezz | you know we never talk about anything but sex in here |
| 14:56.28 | Lopeppeppy | If THAT hasn't trained your mind away from thinking of vertical objects, I think you need a shrink, zenzelezz. |
| 14:56.34 | zenzelezz | we just find new analogies malreth |
| 14:56.56 | Lunessa | Lopeppeppy: For longer, repetitive tasks, something that plugs into house current is good, and if it's mind-numbing then you want something with a timer. Set it and forget it. |
| 14:57.36 | zenzelezz | Cairenn without an |afk tag yet suspiciously quiet |
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| 14:59.40 | Lopeppeppy | Timers... I have one for my outside decorations, I could re-purpose that. |
| 14:59.52 | Lopeppeppy | malreth... I'm hurt. *sniff* |
| 15:00.27 | malreth | i'm nearly married, whipped, and neutered... your words have little to no effect on me |
| 15:00.27 | Lunessa | Remember to set the timer to the shortest interval needed to complete the task, you can always run the rob again, but running it too long might have unahppy results. |
| 15:01.55 | Lopeppeppy | Shorter is better, you're right Lunessa. |
| 15:02.20 | Lopeppeppy | She'll give them back someday, malreth. |
| 15:03.02 | Lunessa | Malreth, remember in the future, you'll have to ask permission to use them, or even to take them out of the house with you. "Com'on honey, all the other guys are taking theirs!" |
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| 15:04.21 | Lopeppeppy | Just remember, the other guys are lying, so don't listen to them tell you different. |
| 15:06.39 | malreth | http://www.someecards.com/upload/get_well/sorry_you_re_feeling_like_such_a_pussy.html |
| 15:07.00 | malreth | http://www.someecards.com/upload/sympathy/my_condolences_on_losing_your.html |
| 15:07.13 | malreth | my favorite e-card site |
| 15:07.19 | Lunessa | lawl |
| 15:07.21 | Lopeppeppy | Damn, malreth |
| 15:09.45 | malreth | the thinking of you section is my favorite |
| 15:10.33 | malreth | http://www.someecards.com/upload/thinking_of_you/thanks_for_honoring_my_desire_to_ejaculate_on_your.html |
| 15:10.47 | Lunessa | So Mal, 1:00-ish on the27th? |
| 15:11.29 | malreth | i think i'll be free... i'll set a reminder |
| 15:11.36 | malreth | what part of town will you be in? |
| 15:11.38 | Lunessa | ok. Epoch? |
| 15:11.59 | Lunessa | Meh, near 35. |
| 15:12.00 | malreth | epoch coffee? |
| 15:12.07 | Lunessa | Yeah, the coffee house. |
| 15:12.23 | malreth | awesome... north side of austin... |
| 15:12.46 | Lunessa | I need fortification before dealing with family. |
| 15:13.23 | zenzelezz | your family must be bad if you're warming up with malreth |
| 15:13.30 | Lopeppeppy | Oh... gods... thanks for reminding me, Lunessa. *facepalm* |
| 15:14.29 | Lunessa | zenzelezz: I'm visiting my brother (who is great) and my little sister (whom I loathe) that say. malreth is a mild irrtant compared to that. |
| 15:14.36 | deltron | lol |
| 15:14.54 | Lunessa | s/ say/day |
| 15:14.55 | malreth | mild irritant = single grain of sand in the lube |
| 15:15.11 | Lunessa | from such things are pearls born |
| 15:15.59 | malreth | i doubt pearls are being made down there... |
| 15:16.05 | zenzelezz | sounds weird, but I've never had a sister, good or bad |
| 15:16.12 | malreth | they're usually left behind elsewhere |
| 15:17.16 | Lopeppeppy | I have a neutral sister, and a nice sister in law. |
| 15:18.30 | malreth | who else can we get to come along? didn't krka say he'd be in austin? |
| 15:19.15 | Lunessa | I don't know who else is in Austin from the channel. |
| 15:22.15 | Lunessa | For that matter, the only people I'm certain are in Texas, are you, me, and |Jelly| |
| 15:22.44 | Lopeppeppy | Look me up if you ever come to New York, but Texas is a world and a half away. |
| 15:23.32 | zenzelezz | I'd look you up all right... |
| 15:24.00 | malreth | Taeri: hahaha! |
| 15:24.15 | zenzelezz | I'm a sad bastard, let me have my fun |
| 15:24.31 | Taeri | zenzelezz: okok, if I can have fun on your expense! |
| 15:24.49 | zenzelezz | girls always can |
| 15:25.00 | Taeri | hurraaay |
| 15:25.02 | zenzelezz | in fact they usually do |
| 15:25.22 | Taeri | Ok, I'll be a nice little Taeri and not have fun on your expense then. |
| 15:25.52 | zenzelezz | what fun is that? :-/ |
| 15:26.09 | Taeri | It's no fun if everyone else does it! |
| 15:26.10 | Lopeppeppy | No fun? |
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| 15:27.23 | malreth | Taeri's a sadist... :3 |
| 15:27.46 | Taeri | I'm a machosist really. But don't need to go there. |
| 15:28.08 | Taeri | I note I cannot spell that word properly. |
| 15:28.10 | malreth | with the way you (don't) eat, i'm not surprised |
| 15:28.14 | Taeri | I try and try and I never get it. |
| 15:28.30 | malreth | masochist |
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| 15:28.52 | Taeri | right. I'll note it down for next time, and see if I can remember I did! |
| 15:31.51 | Taeri | and the eating thing is just cause I'm horribly lazy, and like the food my boyfriend makes better than what I make. :P |
| 15:32.12 | malreth | when did he last cook for you? |
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| 15:36.46 | Lunessa | ... So wait, Lopeppeppy is into "training" and Taeri is a masochist. Anyone else see the potential profit center here? |
| 15:37.07 | zenzelezz | no, I'm busy picturing something else |
| 15:38.00 | Lunessa | zenzelezz: You've just made my point for me. :) |
| 15:38.32 | Lopeppeppy | There's training and training.... |
| 15:38.33 | zenzelezz | don't be so sure, I was picturing food |
| 15:40.17 | Taeri | mm, food |
| 15:40.36 | Lopeppeppy | Lunch. |
| 15:40.43 | Cidan | So |
| 15:40.53 | Cidan | I'm thinking of going back to NYC for schoolin' |
| 15:41.10 | Lopeppeppy | NYC is pretty fun. A particular school you're interested in? |
| 15:41.12 | Cidan | But I like Virginia. :/ |
| 15:41.14 | Lunessa | NYC - only the second city where a taxi driver tried to kill me. :) |
| 15:41.35 | Lopeppeppy | It's damn cold up here, Cidan, I do admit. |
| 15:41.40 | Cidan | aye, Columbia is looking nice atm. |
| 15:41.49 | Cidan | I know, I was born there. :P |
| 15:42.02 | Lopeppeppy | What does Columbia offer that a school down where it's warm doesn't? |
| 15:42.20 | Cidan | Aside from the "name" and the actual education, er, I'm not sure. |
| 15:42.46 | Lopeppeppy | Check for a "name" down there before coming up here and frosting your balls. *grin* |
| 15:43.02 | Cidan | I don't mind the cold; I welcome it really. |
| 15:43.22 | Lopeppeppy | I sorta like winter. It's never the cold I mind, it's all the ice storms. |
| 15:43.36 | Cidan | Woo, ice storms! |
| 15:44.10 | Lopeppeppy | Fishtails and spin outs, ahoy. |
| 15:44.40 | Cidan | I got plenty of that living in Blacksburg. It got pretty cold there too. |
| 15:45.50 | Lunessa | Blacksburg is an interesting place. It boggles the mind to drop a center for high tech learning in the middle of famr country |
| 15:46.01 | Lopeppeppy | If there were more sunlight, winter wouldn't be so awful. |
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| 15:48.00 | Lunessa | Lopeppeppy: get a set of full spectrum bulbs for your domicile. |
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| 15:49.19 | Cidan | Lunessa: Funny thing, VT wasn't supposed to be in Blacksburg but in the town next door, Christiansburg. |
| 15:49.32 | Cidan | But the mayor at the time was like, "NOOOO NOOO CANT STAY HERE LALALALLALALA" |
| 15:49.35 | Cidan | Whoops. |
| 15:50.14 | malreth | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=2856217203&postId=28556663363&sid=1#183 |
| 15:50.49 | Lunessa | Cidan: Haha. in Texas, Texas A&M is in the town of College Station a town that grew up to support it, because the town sharing a border hated that students would be present for 80% of the year but pay no property taxes. |
| 15:51.39 | Cidan | That's pretty funny |
| 15:52.55 | Lunessa | The local residents are always angry that students consume services like Police, Fire, and Emergency Medical, but don't pay taxes for them. But the student body makes up the largest part of their economy anyway. |
| 15:53.19 | malreth | Lunessa: too bad they didn't build anything more exciting than a 24-hour wal-mart. all those college kids come to Austin to spend (their monies) the weekend clubbing. |
| 15:53.35 | Lunessa | I know. ;) |
| 15:54.00 | Lunessa | They actually have some of the most stupid liquor laws in the state to 'control student behavior'. |
| 15:54.33 | Lunessa | I mean, when the most exiting place to go is the pizza parlor with $2 draft pitchers... |
| 15:54.56 | malreth | when i was a senior in high school, i went to both A&M to tour the campus, see the CS dept, etc... I asked the guys giving the tour what they do on the weekend and they laughed and said, "we go to Austin." |
| 15:55.12 | malreth | s/ both// |
| 15:55.31 | Lunessa | hah, my buddies at A&M used to do "Emergency Strip Club" runs to Houston or Austin. |
| 15:55.39 | Lopeppeppy | "emergency" |
| 15:55.59 | Lunessa | College Station induces that sort of emergency. |
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| 16:03.09 | Cidan | Perhaps I'm just not "manly" enough but I seriously don't understand the appeal of strip clubs. |
| 16:03.17 | zenzelezz | same |
| 16:03.25 | Josh_Borke | same |
| 16:03.30 | Cidan | Oh okay, whew. |
| 16:03.37 | zenzelezz | you can't touch the models, can't touch yourself, and you're in the company of a bunch of icky guys |
| 16:03.51 | zenzelezz | sounds like punishment |
| 16:03.52 | Lopeppeppy | I can see their usefulness as a way to browse and preview and come home "happy" to see your own female. But to go just to be teased... doesn't sound fun. |
| 16:03.56 | malreth | i'm the contrapositive of a chauvinist. i treat objects as women. |
| 16:04.09 | Cidan | ... |
| 16:04.16 | Cidan | fleshlight, I take it? |
| 16:04.16 | Lopeppeppy | ... |
| 16:04.19 | Cide | ... |
| 16:04.24 | zenzelezz | I'm never touching any of your hollow objects anymore |
| 16:04.34 | Cide | I'm never touching any of your objects period |
| 16:05.27 | Lopeppeppy | OOP takes on a whole new meaning... *shiver* |
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| 16:05.52 | Cide | OO does as well |
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| 16:09.57 | malreth | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=2856217203&sid=1&pageNo=1 |
| 16:10.01 | malreth | truly an epic thread |
| 16:10.52 | malreth | "We're sending an arena team up." "Uh, uh, negative. We had an unstable affliction here now. Give us a minute to iceblock it down. Many dots, very dangerous." "Who is this? What's your team rating?" |
| 16:11.17 | Lopeppeppy | Anyone know what the honor weekend faction is? |
| 16:11.23 | Josh_Borke | AV |
| 16:11.32 | Lopeppeppy | Thank the gods. |
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| 16:11.39 | malreth | ugh... |
| 16:12.05 | Lunessa | http://thedailywtf.com/Articles/ITAPPMONROBOT.aspx |
| 16:13.29 | zenzelezz | "Mage: Negative, negative. Too much resilience. It just impacted on the surface. " |
| 16:13.38 | zenzelezz | that thread owns |
| 16:14.26 | malreth | zenzelezz: it goes on for 10 pages of greatness |
| 16:14.37 | [Liquidor] | Yo checkout my new addon <3 http://i11.tinypic.com/6t5nr77.jpg |
| 16:15.22 | Cidan | What are we looking at? |
| 16:15.24 | Cidan | Yo |
| 16:15.29 | Cidan | Dawg |
| 16:15.33 | [Liquidor] | dawg |
| 16:15.35 | Cidan | DONT TAZE ME, BRO |
| 16:15.36 | [Liquidor] | right window |
| 16:15.40 | Cidan | Etc, and so forth. |
| 16:15.44 | [Liquidor] | imblack |
| 16:15.45 | [Liquidor] | I think |
| 16:15.50 | [Liquidor] | anway right window |
| 16:15.56 | [Liquidor] | honor countdown |
| 16:16.03 | Cide | haha, that's awesome, Lunessa |
| 16:16.11 | Cidan | Oh neat. |
| 16:16.20 | [Liquidor] | Ideas are welcome |
| 16:17.02 | [Liquidor] | Suggestions/Feedback w/e |
| 16:17.13 | Cide | 155 fucking thousand honor? |
| 16:17.18 | Lunessa | " Many ret paladins died to bring us this information." |
| 16:17.24 | [Liquidor] | I started at 190 yesterday |
| 16:17.30 | Cide | now |
| 16:17.38 | Cide | have it count up the time spent in bg's too |
| 16:17.41 | cogwheel | NOBODY expects the Gnomish Inquisiton! Our chief weapon is gadgetry... Gadgetry and our size. Our TWO chief weapons are gadgetry, our size, and an unflappable perkiness... Our THREE chief weapons... Oh let's start again. |
| 16:17.44 | malreth | " At last we will reveal ourselves to the Warlocks, at last we will have our revenge. " |
| 16:18.08 | [Liquidor] | Cide, Time stats? |
| 16:18.17 | Cide | yes |
| 16:18.30 | Cide | Honor to go: 203,683 |
| 16:18.46 | Cide | Time spent in BGs: 92h, 45m and 03s |
| 16:18.54 | Cide | /headdesk |
| 16:18.58 | [Liquidor] | well my Total was "honor to go" |
| 16:19.05 | Cide | right |
| 16:19.09 | Cide | so add the time spent part |
| 16:19.12 | [Liquidor] | wasn't intended to be public |
| 16:19.24 | Cide | I'm mostly kidding, btw :P |
| 16:19.27 | Cide | but it'd be fun |
| 16:19.47 | Lunessa | cogwheel: Brilliant. |
| 16:20.28 | [Liquidor] | well Cide, what I'd like to do first is to make a new frame |
| 16:20.33 | [Liquidor] | I mean |
| 16:20.50 | [Liquidor] | make the rows dynamic based on table data |
| 16:21.47 | Cidan | Perhaps you'd like to use Conspiracy when we release it in a few days? |
| 16:22.19 | [Liquidor] | Cidan, which is? |
| 16:22.30 | Cidan | www.conspiracy-ui.com/ |
| 16:22.35 | malreth | 'Yes, I said closer! Move as close as you can and engage those Hunters at point blank range!' 'At that close range they can still shoot us, we won't last long against those Hunters!' 'We'll last longer than we will against that Death Coil, and we might just take a few of them with us!' |
| 16:22.50 | malreth | i think that one's my favorite |
| 16:22.57 | malreth | of the short ones |
| 16:23.01 | Cidan | In your case, all you would have to do is create a window, place it, and then define the data that goes inside |
| 16:23.14 | Cidan | The entire thing would be less than 100 lines of code, if even |
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| 16:23.21 | [Liquidor] | Will visit the site in a mom |
| 16:23.21 | Cidan | window resizing, etc, is taken care of for you |
| 16:23.23 | [Liquidor] | My web is down |
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| 16:24.37 | [Liquidor] | I hate my notebook or conn. Every now and then (approx. 10th min) I won't be able to make new connections (incl. new website visits) for a minute or 2. However streaming connections such as IRC, WoW; MSN, Winamp etc stays online. How can this be? |
| 16:24.50 | [Liquidor] | Cidan... Nooooooooooo :(( |
| 16:24.58 | [Liquidor] | I use that theme for my WoWArmory |
| 16:24.58 | Cidan | er |
| 16:25.04 | Cidan | What? |
| 16:25.05 | Cidan | lol |
| 16:25.13 | [Liquidor] | bastard :( |
| 16:25.34 | [Liquidor] | now I have to find something else, cba to have the same look as someone else wow related |
| 16:26.16 | Cidan | er |
| 16:26.25 | Cidan | I'm... confuddledled? |
| 16:26.31 | Shirik | oopsie |
| 16:26.36 | Shirik | Cidan I found a bug >.> |
| 16:26.42 | Cidan | I BET YOU DID |
| 16:26.48 | Cide | I found a nice bug the other day |
| 16:26.51 | cogwheel | Is there a way to tar stdin to stdout? |
| 16:27.02 | Shirik | I now have "1. Cell name" "2 . Size and shape" stuck on my screen |
| 16:27.05 | Shirik | cogwheel: yes |
| 16:27.06 | cogwheel | i tried "tar -cvf - -" |
| 16:27.09 | Cide | Ts was complaining about when certain things happened, his whole UI stopped working |
| 16:27.17 | Cidan | oh, ignore that, that's test code |
| 16:27.37 | Cide | turns out that the CombatStats addon set the variable "type" to a string - only without declaring it local first |
| 16:28.08 | Cide | and it only did it when processing a specific combat log event.. it had some really nice side-effects |
| 16:28.21 | Shirik | rofl |
| 16:28.25 | Shirik | awesome |
| 16:28.31 | [Liquidor] | Read your latest blog inputs yet I still don't seem to figure out what Conspiracy is/does. |
| 16:28.59 | Cidan | Oh er, it's a framework/toolkit for WoW addons, the focus is mainly raids but it can do much more. |
| 16:29.05 | cogwheel | Shirik: can you elaborate? :P |
| 16:29.20 | Shirik | I'm trying to remember but apparently I don't have cygwin on this computer |
| 16:30.37 | Shirik | cogwheel: I think it' |
| 16:30.40 | Shirik | it's -f - |
| 16:30.41 | Shirik | not - - |
| 16:30.43 | Shirik | oh |
| 16:30.45 | Shirik | you did that nm |
| 16:31.10 | Josh_Borke | drop the f |
| 16:31.33 | Cidan | fine |
| 16:31.34 | Cidan | fuck. |
| 16:31.40 | Cidan | oh wait. |
| 16:31.45 | Cidan | f, not f bomb |
| 16:31.46 | Cidan | got it |
| 16:31.58 | Josh_Borke | tar -cv <stuff> outputs to stdout |
| 16:32.47 | cogwheel | Josh_Borke: and to get it to input from stdin? |
| 16:32.50 | Josh_Borke | hm |
| 16:33.22 | Shirik | everything I'm reading says use -f - |
| 16:33.28 | Josh_Borke | dunno about tar from stdin |
| 16:33.32 | Shirik | cogwheel: what happens, out of curiosity |
| 16:33.33 | Shirik | when you do this |
| 16:33.38 | Shirik | tar -cvf - | more |
| 16:33.54 | Lunessa | "You must feel the Iceblock around you; here, between you, me, the tree, the rock, everywhere, yes. Even between the warlock and his DOTs.” |
| 16:33.55 | cogwheel | tar: Cowardly refusing to create an empty archive |
| 16:34.29 | Shirik | what about cat <some file> | tar -cvf - |
| 16:36.55 | Josh_Borke | i don't think you can tar from stdin |
| 16:37.13 | Shirik | "If a tarfile is given as ``-'', tar reads from stdin or writes to stdout, depending on if it is archiving or extracting. " |
| 16:38.28 | cogwheel | My ultimate goal is to make a single command do svnadmin dump -> tar+bz2 -> gpg |
| 16:38.35 | cogwheel | for backing up my addon repo |
| 16:38.39 | Josh_Borke | oh |
| 16:38.46 | Shirik | so this doesnt' work? |
| 16:39.10 | cogwheel | i can do it in multiple commands but i figured i'd optimize it so it doesn't create intermediate files |
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| 16:40.40 | Shirik | It seems tar only reads from stdin if extracting |
| 16:41.19 | End | reads what? |
| 16:41.20 | cogwheel | intermediate file it is... |
| 16:42.16 | Josh_Borke | you could skip the tar phase |
| 16:43.16 | Shirik | cogwheel, fwiw, extracting you can do stdin to stdout |
| 16:43.26 | Shirik | xvOf - |
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| 16:53.18 | AU518987077 | hello there, im writing a new line into my rogues main action button, a line that uses the effect of my new cape when im falling, Parachute Cloak, would the line have to be something like "/use [falling] Parachute Cloak" |
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| 16:53.58 | Josh_Borke | AU518987077: i do not believe that there is a [falling] modifier |
| 16:54.14 | Josh_Borke | AU518987077: check the macro FAQ on the UI section of forums.worldofwarcraft.com |
| 16:54.39 | AU518987077 | well im here to ask you guys , since your alot smerter then the poseters in the fourums |
| 16:54.53 | malreth | hey! we *are* the posters in the forums |
| 16:55.14 | Josh_Borke | AU518987077: did you read the FAQ? |
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| 17:01.19 | cogwheel | wowace down? |
| 17:01.34 | Cidan | One can only hope. |
| 17:01.38 | Cidan | Sorry, that was mean. |
| 17:01.45 | malreth | ~pingface |
| 17:01.46 | purl | ACTION pings Cidan in the face. |
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| 17:03.46 | cladhaire | lol |
| 17:03.50 | cladhaire | but it made me laugh |
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| 17:04.49 | AU518987077 | josh_borke, what fazs, on the wow forums? |
| 17:04.53 | AU518987077 | faqs |
| 17:05.01 | Cide | hmmm |
| 17:05.03 | Cide | the stickies? |
| 17:05.21 | Cide | you know, the ones you should read first |
| 17:05.24 | AU518987077 | if you eman the 20 pages i read in teh ui and macor forums, then yes i did |
| 17:05.36 | AU518987077 | i spent a good 4 days searhcing, |
| 17:05.56 | Cide | let's see |
| 17:06.03 | Cide | Cogwheel's Complete Macro Guide – READ 1ST! |
| 17:06.16 | Cide | it is defined as "complete"; if [falling] is not there, it's not anywhere |
| 17:06.19 | AU518987077 | thats the oen that has over 70 pages rigght? |
| 17:06.26 | Cide | that has 8 pages |
| 17:06.34 | Cide | and the guide is <1 page |
| 17:06.39 | AU518987077 | then coudl i have the lionky please |
| 17:06.44 | AU518987077 | linky |
| 17:06.55 | Shirik | Cogwheel's mostly-complete-but-cogwheel-doesnt-really-know-what-hes-talking-about-so-its-only-partially-coplete Macro Guide Read 1st!! |
| 17:07.01 | Cide | www.google.com/search?q=Cogwheel's%20Complete%20Macro%20Guide |
| 17:07.04 | Shirik | <3 cogwheel |
| 17:07.12 | cogwheel | ~nickometer AU518987077 |
| 17:07.16 | cogwheel | :P |
| 17:07.30 | Cide | there's a link for ya |
| 17:07.39 | AU518987077 | no, im a busy guild master of the terokkar Deathknights |
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| 17:07.54 | Cide | and I'm the author of the best mods in the world. your point? |
| 17:07.55 | cogwheel | AU518987077: there's a forum dedicated to UI & Macros... my guide is the first sticky after "Welcome: Please Read" |
| 17:08.05 | deltron | Cide: what mods? |
| 17:08.52 | Shirik | nah |
| 17:08.58 | Shirik | Shirik/Cidan mods > Cide mods |
| 17:09.11 | Shirik | batbot, are Shirik's and Cidan's mods better than Cide's mods? |
| 17:09.11 | batbot | Shirik, Are you kidding? |
| 17:09.14 | Shirik | I hatey ou |
| 17:09.22 | Cide | hahahahaha |
| 17:09.33 | AU518987077 | side, you exspect me to rereade all these pages, i spent a godo portion of 2 days jsut on thsi forum alone and it did nto help me |
| 17:09.35 | Cide | batbot: is Cide's mods the best? |
| 17:09.36 | batbot | Cide, You may rely on it. |
| 17:09.38 | AU518987077 | clide |
| 17:09.39 | Cide | thought so. |
| 17:09.40 | AU518987077 | cide |
| 17:09.43 | Shirik | ... |
| 17:09.51 | Shirik | batbot, are you insane? |
| 17:09.51 | batbot | Shirik, \(o_O)/ |
| 17:09.52 | Cide | s/is/are/ too |
| 17:09.56 | Shirik | lol |
| 17:09.58 | Shirik | how appropriate |
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| 17:10.07 | Cide | AU518987077: yes, I do. |
| 17:10.26 | Cide | if you need me to hold your hand, do understand that it'll be $128/hr |
| 17:10.27 | AU518987077 | so you exspect me to read them again... im here to ask for help |
| 17:10.33 | Cide | I already linked you WHERE TO GO |
| 17:10.39 | Cide | CTRL+F IS YOUR FRIEND |
| 17:10.39 | Shirik | ~howtoask |
| 17:10.40 | purl | rumour has it, howtoask is http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html |
| 17:10.40 | AU518987077 | im sorry i dotn deal with american money |
| 17:10.45 | AU518987077 | only canadian |
| 17:10.53 | Cide | then you are free to translate it into the currency of your choice |
| 17:11.00 | Shirik | read that link |
| 17:11.04 | AU518987077 | how abotu six flags fun bucks |
| 17:11.06 | Shirik | then go to the macro forums stickies |
| 17:11.12 | Cide | look, buddy |
| 17:11.17 | Cide | (no, you're not really my buddy) |
| 17:11.27 | Cide | I linked you the post |
| 17:11.31 | Cide | told you which page you can find it |
| 17:11.37 | Cide | or not find it -- in which case it doesn't exist |
| 17:11.43 | Cide | now be a good boy and go look |
| 17:11.57 | Shirik | most specifically |
| 17:11.58 | AU518987077 | you knwo by sendign me to a forum your sayign your nto the smartest peopel here |
| 17:11.59 | Shirik | "If you get a reply that reads STFW, the person who sent it thinks you should have Searched The Fucking Web. He or she is almost certainly right. Go search it. (The milder version of this is when you are told Google is your friend!)" |
| 17:12.05 | Shirik | "Often, the person telling you to do a search has the manual or the web page with the information you need open, and is looking at it as he or she types. These replies mean that he thinks (a) the information you need is easy to find, and (b) you will learn more if you seek out the information than if you have it spoon-fed to you" |
| 17:12.07 | AU518987077 | i came here seekign help and answers |
| 17:12.10 | Cide | AU518987077: I sent you to a forum post. |
| 17:12.28 | Shirik | "You shouldn't be offended by this; by hacker standards, your respondent is showing you a rough kind of respect simply by not ignoring you. You should instead be thankful for this grandmotherly kindness." |
| 17:12.42 | zenzelezz | you got help, you just refused to accept it |
| 17:12.52 | AU518987077 | its nto teh help i exspected |
| 17:12.57 | zenzelezz | they gave you the name of the thread |
| 17:12.58 | Cide | too bad. |
| 17:13.00 | Cide | sucks to be you |
| 17:13.20 | AU518987077 | i was sent here to ask from the wowwiki IRC room, they said i could find my answer here |
| 17:13.20 | Cide | I think helping is on the helper's terms, not the helpee's |
| 17:14.01 | Shirik | cs level #conspiracy list |
| 17:14.02 | Shirik | oops |
| 17:14.08 | Cide | you want to know whether or not there is a macro option called [falling] |
| 17:14.18 | AU518987077 | yes, if you coudl be so kind |
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| 17:14.34 | Cide | I said, "read Cogwheel's Complete Macro Guide" |
| 17:14.35 | AU518987077 | or the actuall fallign macro option |
| 17:14.39 | Cide | and then I linked you to it |
| 17:15.00 | Cide | and by read, I mean "look through, search, do what the fuck ever you want with it, but don't ask me any more questions, as it is answered there" |
| 17:15.14 | Cide | and by answered I mean that if it's not answered, such a macro option doesn't exist |
| 17:15.24 | malreth | AU518987077: english not your first language? |
| 17:16.09 | AU518987077 | actually , no it isnt, i speak かたかなnativly |
| 17:16.18 | Shirik | you speak box? |
| 17:16.20 | AU518987077 | but i was told to use english here |
| 17:16.22 | Cide | and I speak swedish |
| 17:16.25 | AU518987077 | i speak japanese |
| 17:16.33 | Cide | you spell the words just fine |
| 17:16.34 | AU518987077 | apernetly you dont have east asian language support |
| 17:16.38 | Shirik | ah, watashi wa nihongo wakarimasu |
| 17:16.44 | Shirik | no, IRC doesn't have it |
| 17:16.54 | Cide | IRC does; mIRC doesn't :P |
| 17:16.58 | AU518987077 | im osryr your gunan have to convert that to katakana for me to understnad it |
| 17:17.11 | Shirik | the fact that freenode might transmit this or that clients accept it is an extension of the standard |
| 17:17.11 | Josh_Borke | i saw katakana just fine |
| 17:17.12 | AU518987077 | sorry |
| 17:17.31 | malreth | AU518987077: the answer is there is no [falling] option for macros at all. sorry. |
| 17:17.36 | Shirik | mirc follows the standard quite fine |
| 17:17.37 | Cide | malreth: I HATE YOU |
| 17:17.49 | Cide | Shirik: meh, you win |
| 17:17.49 | Josh_Borke | (11:53:58 AM) Josh_Borke: AU518987077: i do not believe that there is a [falling] modifier |
| 17:17.52 | AU518987077 | are you 99% sure with a 1% tolorance range |
| 17:17.54 | Josh_Borke | i believe i win |
| 17:17.59 | Shirik | AU518987077 if you seriously can't convert that into katakana, I don't believe that you speak japanese natively |
| 17:18.06 | Shirik | because it shouldn't be katakana anyway, it should be hiragana |
| 17:18.11 | malreth | AU518987077: absolutely 100% certain |
| 17:18.14 | Josh_Borke | why does it matter? |
| 17:18.17 | Shirik | and everyone I met in Japan can do that conversion quite easily |
| 17:18.19 | AU518987077 | ok thats what i came here to find out |
| 17:18.26 | Shirik | Josh_Borke: Because I hate people that lie to make themselves sound cooler |
| 17:18.36 | Lunessa | *headdesk* |
| 17:18.38 | Josh_Borke | who cares if someone thinks someone else is cool or not? |
| 17:18.40 | Cide | Shirik: did you know that I'm the king of sweden? |
| 17:18.41 | malreth | AU518987077: ok. have a good... evening? |
| 17:18.44 | Shirik | Cide: Really?! |
| 17:18.47 | Shirik | No wonder your mods are good |
| 17:18.48 | Cide | yes |
| 17:18.49 | AU518987077 | i dotn try to make myself soudn cooler, i just do waht i do |
| 17:18.51 | Cidan | rofl |
| 17:18.58 | AU518987077 | mornign here actually |
| 17:19.02 | Cide | Shirik: yes, I know. |
| 17:19.03 | AU518987077 | 10:18 |
| 17:19.05 | Cide | ~ugt |
| 17:19.06 | purl | from memory, ugt is Universal Greeting Time. Created in #mipslinux, it is a rule that states that whenever somebody enters an IRC channel it is always morning, and it is always late when the person leaves. The local time of any other people in the channel, including the greeter, is irrelevant. http://www.total-knowledge.com/~ilya/mips/ugt.html |
| 17:19.07 | AU518987077 | take care |
| 17:19.10 | Josh_Borke | bb |
| 17:19.14 | Cide | it was the cue for you to leave |
| 17:19.17 | Cide | oh, too late |
| 17:19.40 | Josh_Borke | time to go home |
| 17:19.51 | Josh_Borke | bye bye |
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| 17:24.11 | Polarina | What is the CVar to set the terrain distance? |
| 17:24.22 | Shirik | terrainDistanceMax sounds right :P |
| 17:24.54 | malreth | i wonder why that guy always calls his language かたかな in hiragana (of all things) and not 日本語? |
| 17:25.17 | malreth | maybe he's actually Russian! |
| 17:25.34 | Shirik | I was wondering why it was 4 boxes |
| 17:25.35 | Shirik | instead of 3 |
| 17:25.42 | Shirik | because it's 3 characters |
| 17:26.03 | Shirik | wait |
| 17:26.05 | malreth | Shirik: he writes 'katakana' in hiragana |
| 17:26.11 | Shirik | rofl |
| 17:26.12 | Shirik | really? |
| 17:26.14 | malreth | yah |
| 17:26.20 | Shirik | and the language is called nihongo... |
| 17:26.21 | Polarina | Anyone? |
| 17:26.21 | malreth | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:26.34 | Shirik | Polarina: Working on it |
| 17:26.36 | Shirik | but I did answer you |
| 17:26.44 | Cide | yeah, what's up with people missing obvious answers? |
| 17:26.45 | Polarina | Shirik: It's not the right one. |
| 17:27.13 | malreth | and the not being able to read romaji... |
| 17:27.16 | Shirik | ok well logging in to check it out |
| 17:27.22 | Shirik | malreth: That's what set me off |
| 17:27.49 | Shirik | consolelines 50 |
| 17:27.51 | Shirik | grr |
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| 17:27.53 | Shirik | damn you dual screen |
| 17:28.14 | malreth | the question where he asked me the percentage that i thought i was right was rather japanese... |
| 17:28.22 | Shirik | Polarina: What were you looking for again? |
| 17:28.35 | Polarina | Shirik: The CVar for terrain distance. |
| 17:28.37 | Shirik | I have texLodBias |
| 17:28.47 | Shirik | that's just LOD |
| 17:28.52 | Polarina | Hmm... |
| 17:30.06 | Shirik | oh |
| 17:30.09 | Shirik | horizonfarclip ? |
| 17:30.11 | Shirik | maybe that's it? |
| 17:30.20 | Shirik | mine's currently set to 2112 |
| 17:31.30 | Shirik | HorizonFarClip must be in range 1065.00000 - 2112.00000 |
| 17:31.52 | Shirik | yeah that definitely seems to be it Polarina |
| 17:31.58 | Polarina | Ok, thanks. |
| 17:32.01 | Shirik | I'm looking at far away stuff right now and it disappears and reappears |
| 17:32.05 | Shirik | that number appears to be yards |
| 17:32.14 | Polarina | :) |
| 17:36.35 | Polarina | I don't see why there are limits.. |
| 17:38.06 | malreth | Polarina: reducing the clip range under a certain distance might facilitate seeing through terrain to find other players in PvP or something like that. |
| 17:38.36 | malreth | either that, or it makes the game look ugly and the game designers don't want that |
| 17:38.56 | Lunessa | Also, there is the issue of "how much data do we have to send the client" to deal with. |
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| 17:39.40 | Polarina | But setting it too high? |
| 17:40.46 | Lunessa | The higher you set it, the more data you need from the server. |
| 17:40.47 | malreth | Polarina: there might be limits in the graphical engine for the number of polys that it can handle |
| 17:41.08 | Lunessa | And number of polygons that need to be pre-rendered. |
| 17:43.57 | Lunessa | I am SO glad that I'm going on a break at 5 - no work until Jan 2 - which might be all that keeps my sanity from snapping like a dry twig. |
| 17:44.27 | Lopeppeppy | I get the exact same, Lunessa. But I think that being home will just snap my sanity that much faster, ironically. |
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| 17:48.25 | Cidan | I have no family, no one to buy gifts for sans one person. |
| 17:48.39 | Cidan | It works out well; I have no stress during Christmas |
| 17:49.51 | Industrial | I'm too poor to buy anyone a gift :( |
| 17:50.58 | Lunessa | Actually, the holidays are pretty low-stress for me. My family knows I'm not big on traveling to visit, and since we're all "grown" we don't really exchange gifts. |
| 17:51.21 | amro | Cidan: xmas doesn't exist where I am, and that works out even better :) |
| 17:51.21 | malreth | i'm pretty much only buying my sisters and my fiancee a gift |
| 17:51.28 | Cidan | amro: Lucky. |
| 17:51.30 | Industrial | im getting a gift from the guild leader on xmas :D |
| 17:51.44 | nevcairiel | he kicks you? |
| 17:51.45 | nevcairiel | :) |
| 17:51.53 | Industrial | no, an item |
| 17:51.58 | Industrial | and he wont tell me what >:o |
| 17:52.14 | malreth | [Savage Frond] |
| 17:52.18 | dylanm | Dick in a box? |
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| 17:52.45 | malreth | you're gonna get fronded to within an inch of your life... and then... he's going to *have* you. |
| 17:52.58 | Lunessa | I'm the guild leader, I'm going to send all my officers [Soap on a Rope] wrapped. |
| 17:53.08 | nevcairiel | haha |
| 17:53.20 | amro | dylanm: lols |
| 17:53.28 | malreth | i wish you could wrap stackable items... i want to give out chocolate cake |
| 17:53.42 | Shirik | sorry, this deserves being copied here |
| 17:53.50 | Shirik | <CIA-36> Conspiracy: 03cidan * r217 10/Conspiracy/ (Sounds/swoosh.wav Sounds Framework/Popup.lua): Added sound effect for popup windows (will have option to disable) |
| 17:53.50 | Shirik | <CIA-36> Conspiracy: 03cidan * r218 10/Conspiracy/Framework/Popup.lua: Removed sound for popups; got annoying REALLY quickly. |
| 17:53.51 | nevcairiel | yeah i always wondered why they dont allow wrapping stacks |
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| 17:54.01 | Industrial | lol Lunessa |
| 17:54.05 | nevcairiel | lol Cidan :P |
| 17:54.09 | malreth | HA! |
| 17:54.41 | Lunessa | malreth: cake doesn't stack I thought? |
| 17:54.53 | malreth | the delicious chocolate cake? |
| 17:55.03 | malreth | it makes you really happy |
| 17:55.03 | Lunessa | Shirik: LOL |
| 17:55.05 | Cide | ~pingface |
| 17:55.05 | purl | ACTION pings Cidan in the face. |
| 17:55.10 | Cide | you deserved it |
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| 18:00.42 | cogwheel | assert(When a template is instantiated its onload occurs after its childrens') |
| 18:01.32 | Cide | true |
| 18:04.18 | Shirik | cogwheel: Compilation failure. Expected ')' near 'a' |
| 18:04.36 | Shirik | I wonder how close I was to the error message |
| 18:04.39 | Shirik | lua> assert(When a template is instantiated its onload occurs after its childrens') |
| 18:04.39 | lua_bot | Shirik: sandbox.lua:298: Compilation failed: [string "assert(When a template is instantiated its onload occurs after ..."]:1: ')' expected near 'a' |
| 18:04.44 | Shirik | hey I'm pretty good |
| 18:07.36 | Cidan | It doesn't work unless you copy/paste it all |
| 18:08.13 | Cidan | 12:23 < Cidan> Oh, so, I've been thinking of adding a "swoosh" sound or something for popups |
| 18:08.17 | Cidan | 12:24 < Cidan> small, quiet, but enough to grab you. |
| 18:08.19 | Cidan | 12:24 < Shirik> that would be interesting |
| 18:08.22 | Cidan | 12:24 < Cidan> it adds to the effect |
| 18:08.23 | Cidan | 12:26 < Shirik> yeah |
| 18:08.24 | Cidan | 12:26 < Shirik> but it has to be small |
| 18:08.34 | Cidan | 12:26 < Shirik> just a little touch |
| 18:08.35 | Cidan | 12:26 < Cidan> yep |
| 18:08.39 | malreth | very small... |
| 18:08.42 | Cidan | 12:46 < CIA-36> Conspiracy: cidan * r217 /Conspiracy/ (Sounds/swoosh.wav Sounds Framework/Popup.lua): Added sound effect for popup windows (will have option to disable) |
| 18:08.46 | Cidan | 12:50 < CIA-36> Conspiracy: cidan * r218 /Conspiracy/Framework/Popup.lua: Removed sound for popups; got annoying REALLY quickly. |
| 18:08.49 | Cidan | 12:53 < Shirik> rofl |
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| 18:12.14 | Cidan | it sucked. |
| 18:12.17 | Cidan | Don't ever do it. |
| 18:12.23 | cladhaire | haha |
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| 18:31.05 | art3mis | http://www.bbspot.com/News/2007/12/top-11-signs-you-are-too-old-too-party.html |
| 18:33.02 | art3mis | http://www.bbspot.com/News/2007/12/tech-disappoinments-2007.html<--Lack of WoW Buttplug Equipment - I mean, it's the only slot still available, isn't it? +5 Rectal Vibrosword of the Beaver ftw! |
| 18:33.08 | art3mis | err |
| 18:33.12 | Thunder_Child | art3mis, i think thats more along the lines of "Signs You're Getting Too Old" |
| 18:33.16 | art3mis | http://www.bbspot.com/News/2007/12/tech-disappoinments-2007.html <--Lack of WoW Buttplug Equipment - I mean, it's the only slot still available, isn't it? +5 Rectal Vibrosword of the Beaver ftw! |
| 18:34.48 | Lunessa | ... of the Beaver. LAWL |
| 18:35.42 | art3mis | http://www.instructables.com/id/Pneumatic-Snowball-Cannon/ |
| 18:37.15 | art3mis | did anyone read world war zero? |
| 18:37.17 | foxlit | nesting of [[...]] is deprecated - qq! |
| 18:37.19 | art3mis | about the zombie wars? |
| 18:37.34 | art3mis | err World War Z |
| 18:37.59 | art3mis | http://nerfhaven.com/homemade/boltsniper_far/ |
| 18:38.10 | Thunder_Child | lol http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y17/missdebbieann/lolthread.jpg |
| 18:42.56 | cncfanatics | hello people |
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| 18:51.54 | Lopeppeppy | Lunessa: Ping |
| 18:52.05 | Lunessa | Lopeppeppy: Pong |
| 18:52.15 | Lopeppeppy | Did I fix my messaging problem? |
| 18:52.34 | Lunessa | fixz0red. |
| 18:52.43 | Lopeppeppy | Woot. Thanks. |
| 18:53.09 | Lunessa | Only too happy to help. |
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| 19:05.48 | Lunessa | Ok, totally has nothing to do with anything but the season... but every enjoyable: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Fe11OlMiz8 |
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| 19:13.17 | Lopeppeppy | Love a capella |
| 19:13.58 | Lopeppeppy | The numbers are fun. *giggle* |
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| 19:21.22 | Lunessa | The show made me chuckle. |
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| 19:28.34 | Lopeppeppy | Well hello there, |Jelly|-dear! |
| 19:30.03 | Lopeppeppy | I'm spoiled, |Jelly|, thanks. And I got my PM's fixed, yay! |
| 19:31.13 | Cidan | question |
| 19:31.17 | Lunessa | Hiya |Jelly|. |
| 19:31.34 | Cidan | Can you use something other than mouse clicks for click casting? |
| 19:31.46 | Cidan | I imagine yes, just making sure |
| 19:31.51 | Cidan | ie: bind "z" or what have you. |
| 19:32.20 | |Jelly| | Like bind "z" to a [target=mouseover] macro? |
| 19:32.26 | Cidan | no no, in lua |
| 19:32.42 | |Jelly| | Well then, Imma stfu and go back to hugging Peppy. |
| 19:32.53 | Cidan | binding z to a click-casting action, instead of mouse over/left click |
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| 19:33.12 | |Jelly| | *curious* How would it know who to cast what on? |
| 19:33.26 | Cidan | because z would be predefined |
| 19:34.09 | Cidan | hm, I guess if you've never worked with the lua it wouldn't make much sense, but like, you can do frame:SetAttribute("type1", "spell"); |
| 19:34.15 | |Jelly| | Sounds like you're going through a lot of work to do something a macro was made to do. But that's only my opinion and well, I'll be the first to admit that I don't know a hell of a lot about Lua. :P |
| 19:34.21 | Cidan | frame:SetAttribute("spell1", "Holy Light"); |
| 19:34.23 | art3mis | hugging does not include pelvic thrusts. |
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| 19:34.41 | Cidan | where that will do mouse1. |
| 19:34.45 | Cidan | spell2 mouse 2, etc |
| 19:35.18 | |Jelly| | art3mis: Peppy's a gnome. Pelvic thrusts are kind of...awkward. :P |
| 19:36.34 | Lopeppeppy | |Jelly|, you missed a whole discussion about whisks and power tools earlier... *giggle* |
| 19:36.43 | |Jelly| | :( |
| 19:36.52 | |Jelly| | That's what I get for staying up so late, I guess. |
| 19:37.53 | Lopeppeppy | Yup. Early bird catches the awesome conversations. But we can have another just for you. |
| 19:38.05 | |Jelly| | We should imo. |
| 19:38.20 | |Jelly| | Can they involve gnomish whips and chains? ;) |
| 19:38.21 | Xuerian | early bird? bah |
| 19:38.32 | Lopeppeppy | So how about that.... er... awesome gnomish cheerleading squad? |
| 19:38.40 | |Jelly| | hehehee |
| 19:39.35 | art3mis | |Jelly|: no pelvic thrusts from someone of your stature just has a completely different function ;) |
| 19:39.56 | |Jelly| | Poor Peppy. |
| 19:41.51 | |Jelly| | So last night, this other holy priest and I spent an entire AV trying to kill each other. It was sooo boring. |
| 19:42.22 | Lopeppeppy | Hot priest on priest action! |
| 19:42.45 | |Jelly| | Could be hot priest on rogue actions, if ya know what I mean. ;) |
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| 19:44.03 | Lunessa | oh my virgin eyes, I must look away before I doth become infected with such perversities. |
| 19:44.08 | Lopeppeppy | *chuckle* |
| 19:44.11 | Cidan | Too late |
| 19:44.17 | Lopeppeppy | Perversities don't infect, it's practices that do! |
| 19:44.32 | kergoth | has anyone ever heard of some sort of 'favorites' addon for tradeskills? i have certain things i craf tmuch more than i do anything else, itd be nice to have those in one place, either filter the tradeskill window so i only see those, or sort it so those are on top |
| 19:44.36 | |Jelly| | *winks at Peppy* :P |
| 19:45.04 | |Jelly| | Doesn't Advanced Trade Skill Window allow some filtering like that? |
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| 19:45.27 | kergoth | hmm does it? havent used it in a long time, using skillet atm |
| 19:45.39 | Lunessa | kergoth: I'm not positive but Skillet or ProfessionsBook might. |
| 19:45.39 | kergoth | i bet itd be easy to add a custom filtering or sorting scheme to do it |
| 19:46.10 | kergoth | just seems silly to have to search or scroll to find certain things, repeatedly |
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| 19:48.45 | Fin | yeah |
| 19:48.48 | Fin | cgCrafty |
| 19:48.56 | Fin | dunno if it still has the same functionality tho |
| 19:49.22 | Fin | innitdoes chuck use IRC? |
| 19:49.37 | Fin | wtf, let me try that again |
| 19:49.40 | Fin | does cuhck use IRC? |
| 19:49.50 | Fin | fuck me |
| 19:49.52 | Fin | does |
| 19:49.54 | Fin | chuck |
| 19:49.55 | Fin | use |
| 19:49.55 | JoshBorke | fin: yes, chuckg uses irc |
| 19:49.56 | Fin | IRC |
| 19:50.16 | Fin | see Fin. see Fin type. good Fin! |
| 19:50.44 | kergoth | wasnt cgcrafty just a search box though? still not as convenient as i'd like |
| 19:51.06 | Fin | http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info4999-cgCrafty.html |
| 19:51.08 | Lunessa | ~feed Fin |
| 19:51.09 | purl | ACTION offers Fin some herring |
| 19:51.38 | Fin | looks like it's got some features I'd use actually |
| 19:51.52 | Fin | hmm, maybe I mixex it up with something else |
| 20:01.27 | Lunessa | Lopeppeppy: maybe one of those /vertical/ ones. |
| 20:01.45 | Fin | look! no misakes! |
| 20:01.46 | Lopeppeppy | Oh, totally! *giggle* |
| 20:01.49 | Fin | FUCK |
| 20:02.05 | Fin | I'm really giving up hnow |
| 20:02.23 | Fin | bye |
| 20:02.27 | Lopeppeppy | |Jelly|, I hope Santa brings you a vertical mouse. |
| 20:03.01 | Lunessa | Lopeppeppy: I think he'd settle for a wisk. |
| 20:03.17 | Lunessa | s/wisk/whisk |
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| 20:07.20 | Lopeppeppy | Hmm... whisks are easy to find at any store, you don't even have to go to a specialty shop or show ID |
| 20:09.03 | Lunessa | Those kind are a little impersonal. |
| 20:09.46 | Lopeppeppy | No! There are some very nice ones on the market lately, with soft rubber grips and stainless steel construction. If you chill them in the fridge they're awesome for sauces.... |
| 20:10.33 | Lunessa | I mostly use them for eggs and occasionally to mix pudding. |
| 20:14.15 | Lopeppeppy | Oh, no whipped cream? |
| 20:14.31 | Lopeppeppy | Real whipped cream with a hint of mint on top of warm brownies. Nom nom nom. |
| 20:14.42 | Fin | muff |
| 20:14.50 | Fin | haha |
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| 20:17.42 | Thunder_Child | if you are going to get cookware get the good stuff, it is better in the long run |
| 20:18.23 | Lunessa | Lopeppeppy: I'm lazy in the kitchen. I don't usually whip cream by hand - I use a spray can. |
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| 20:24.35 | KarlThePagan | unless you have a family member that destroys cookware |
| 20:25.06 | Thunder_Child | then dont let your maily member near it |
| 20:25.11 | Thunder_Child | family* |
| 20:25.31 | Lopeppeppy | I do have a niece just learning to cook, she's apparently destroyed several pots and pans this month. So that's her present -- a basic cookbook and her own cookware. |
| 20:25.50 | KarlThePagan | unfortunately that fam member is the 50-yo who cooks |
| 20:27.19 | Thunder_Child | then they should know better than to destroy cookware |
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| 20:29.42 | Lunessa | I've accidentally destroyed some - fire too high, wrong utensil for the surface - but it only takes once. |
| 20:30.03 | malreth | non-stick mans? |
| 20:30.06 | malreth | hahah! |
| 20:30.07 | malreth | pans |
| 20:30.26 | Thunder_Child | malreth is having another fantasy |
| 20:30.33 | malreth | although, i'm sure there's a market for non-stick men out there |
| 20:30.48 | Lopeppeppy | Ones that clean up with just a paper towel? |
| 20:30.52 | malreth | yeah! |
| 20:31.12 | Lunessa | I thought P&G invented the wet-wipe for that reason? |
| 20:31.20 | Lunessa | I don't WANT to be teflon coated! |
| 20:32.21 | Lopeppeppy | Lunessa... baby wipes have NO place in my romantic life. |
| 20:32.46 | Lunessa | ... so someone likes it messy? *imp grin* |
| 20:32.49 | malreth | they sting |
| 20:33.23 | Lopeppeppy | They smell bad. |
| 20:33.37 | Lopeppeppy | Soap and water where it's necessary, and dark sheets when you're messy. *shrug* |
| 20:33.41 | malreth | that's not the kind of thing you want to put, as the japanese girls say, あそこ。 |
| 20:34.31 | malreth | then it's made even more enigmatic |
| 20:35.19 | malreth | and dark sheets just highlight when you "miss" |
| 20:35.49 | malreth | what? |
| 20:35.54 | malreth | ... |
| 20:36.09 | Lunessa | mal...I can't help you. You've dug too deeply. |
| 20:36.28 | malreth | sometimes, it can be hard to center things up... |
| 20:37.39 | Lopeppeppy | Download Align. |
| 20:38.44 | malreth | she doesn't want to run addons since she feels they increase latency |
| 20:38.50 | |Jelly| | Are you guys getting a little too randy with Peppy?! |
| 20:39.21 | Lopeppeppy | Latency can be made to work in your favor, malreth. It's all about the.... timing. |
| 20:39.32 | |Jelly| | Get Quartz |
| 20:39.41 | malreth | Lopeppeppy: sadly, my system is overclocked :( |
| 20:39.42 | Lopeppeppy | Exactly, so you know just when to take actions. |
| 20:39.47 | |Jelly| | Get Quartz |
| 20:39.59 | Lopeppeppy | Take off the overclocking, it's better for the hardware in the long run. |
| 20:40.02 | KarlThePagan | this conversation is relevant to my interests |
| 20:40.10 | KarlThePagan | not the overclocking or addons |
| 20:40.20 | Lunessa | mal, don't forget to use /stopcasting macros. |
| 20:40.45 | malreth | Lunessa: i've tried but the system gets really unstable when i use those |
| 20:41.07 | malreth | the spell sometimes ends up getting interrupted when i don't expect it to |
| 20:41.12 | Lunessa | Perhaps you need to look into cooling systems. |
| 20:41.16 | Lopeppeppy | Hmm.... if you won't use Quartz and Align and /stopcasting... I think you might have to give up the game! |
| 20:41.20 | Lopeppeppy | O.o |
| 20:41.25 | malreth | then i get locked into a constant global cooldown cycle |
| 20:41.40 | Lopeppeppy | That's no good.... Hmm.... |
| 20:42.00 | Lopeppeppy | You'll just have to let her play the game on your system! Yeah! |
| 20:42.02 | KarlThePagan | Lopeppeppy, why would you use stopcasting macros after the last patch? |
| 20:42.19 | |Jelly| | I'll use Quartz, Peppy. ;) |
| 20:42.33 | Lopeppeppy | KarlThePagan... dear.... I think you're missing the subtext of the conversation, which is all innuendo. :) |
| 20:42.34 | |Jelly| | And well, Align is one of the addons I can't live without. *cough* |
| 20:42.53 | Lopeppeppy | I know, |Jelly|, Align is right in your package! |
| 20:43.14 | |Jelly| | You like my package, do you? |
| 20:43.21 | KarlThePagan | oh yea... "overclocking" gets me... hot? :P |
| 20:43.41 | Lopeppeppy | I had to... tweak it a bit, |Jelly||, but now it fits my style and is very comfortable to use, thank you for all the hard work. |
| 20:44.36 | |Jelly| | Hmmm |
| 20:44.41 | |Jelly| | What...didn't you like? |
| 20:44.45 | Thunder_Child | wtb good innuendo. |
| 20:45.59 | Lopeppeppy | The hidden aspects were difficult for me, I do like everything out in the open where I can see it and touch it instantly. |
| 20:46.55 | |Jelly| | I'll have to remember that. |
| 20:47.59 | Lopeppeppy | I really need the fun today, malreth, I'm stocking up smiles to last me through a brutal weekend. I'll take my laughs where I can get them lately. |
| 20:48.44 | malreth | so what exactly are you unhappy about with your current bf? |
| 20:49.08 | malreth | :3 |
| 20:49.11 | Lopeppeppy | I want to not share him with other women. That about covers it. *nod* |
| 20:49.29 | malreth | yep... i think that covers it completely |
| 20:50.38 | malreth | so are you still with him now? |
| 20:51.21 | Lopeppeppy | I'm making noble attempts to preserve and rebuild, yes. That's today, just going one day at a time. |
| 20:51.56 | malreth | why do you want to maintain the relationship? is there something about it that you really like? |
| 20:51.59 | Thunder_Child | huh...i thought you were married Lopeppeppy |
| 20:52.31 | Lopeppeppy | You're right, Thunder_Child. That's why I'm putting in the effort, malreth. |
| 20:53.01 | malreth | do you feel that he is putting in the same level of effort (recently/now)? |
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| 20:53.51 | Lopeppeppy | Meh. One day at a time, I'm trying not to judge. And anyway, I need to shove off for my Solstice celebration. You all will just have to have a cliffhanger until Monday. *waves* |
| 20:54.02 | malreth | ooh... one more thing |
| 20:54.08 | Lopeppeppy | One more, malreth. *nod* |
| 20:54.27 | Thunder_Child | bye Lopeppeppy |
| 20:54.51 | malreth | it seems that you are a smart person and i applaud your conviction to this situation. i believe that you will make the correct decision ultimately no matter what you decide. |
| 20:54.58 | malreth | enjoy your weekend |
| 20:55.12 | malreth | >^_^< |
| 20:55.14 | Lopeppeppy | Thank you, malreth. *hug* |
| 20:55.35 | Lopeppeppy | Merry Yule to all, see you again before Xmas. |
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| 20:55.58 | malreth | Happy Voodoo Day! |
| 20:56.04 | malreth | i declare today Voodoo Day |
| 20:56.16 | malreth | i trust that everyone brought their masks? |
| 20:56.21 | malreth | and needles? |
| 20:57.09 | Lunessa | I stocked up on dolls. |
| 20:57.27 | malreth | are they the kind that deflate if you poke them with needles? |
| 21:05.47 | Lunessa | oh man, you totally went there. |
| 21:06.10 | malreth | hm? |
| 21:15.58 | sag_ich_nicht | function to set the chat target? |
| 21:17.22 | malreth | chat target? |
| 21:17.27 | malreth | like the channel? |
| 21:17.28 | sag_ich_nicht | press enter ingame. |
| 21:17.37 | sag_ich_nicht | :P |
| 21:17.40 | sag_ich_nicht | yeah |
| 21:17.50 | malreth | it's in FrameXML\ChatFrame.lua, i believe |
| 21:18.06 | sag_ich_nicht | i know, but the installer for the UI pack isn't working for me :/ |
| 21:18.17 | sag_ich_nicht | and i cba to extract it from the MPQ |
| 21:18.22 | malreth | don't think it's a function, per say... but a variable that is set to whatever the last sticky is for the chat edit frame |
| 21:18.35 | sag_ich_nicht | gah |
| 21:18.41 | malreth | http://wdn.wowinterface.com/ |
| 21:18.49 | malreth | you can download the UI from there |
| 21:19.24 | sag_ich_nicht | thanks |
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| 21:22.08 | dylanm | Ooh wdn got a little sexier |
| 21:22.29 | Xuerian | The logo is kinky |
| 21:22.58 | dylanm | You'd think the coloring would be the other way around |
| 21:23.20 | dylanm | Test goes live... but I suppose there are other ways of looking at it |
| 21:23.36 | Lunessa | The dark side of the Force is a pathway to many abilities some would consider to be SPLOITZ! |
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| 21:23.39 | malreth | uh... hmm. |
| 21:23.43 | cogwheel | teaser: http://eternalblue.dnsalias.net/MacroSequence.jpg |
| 21:23.49 | malreth | yeah, that logo is suggestive |
| 21:24.48 | Xuerian | cogwheel: hax |
| 21:25.12 | dylanm | cogwheel: Hottt. |
| 21:25.20 | kergoth | cogwheel, sweet |
| 21:25.23 | malreth | ~wdn |
| 21:25.24 | purl | World of Warcraft Developer Network, a website where you can see the changes made to WoW's interface files between versions and also where you can download said versions. http://wdn.wowinterface.com/ |
| 21:26.02 | malreth | cladhaire: you should fix the infobot snippit |
| 21:26.22 | cogwheel | kergoth: a hunter posted a couple on the download page: http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info7911-MacroSequence.html |
| 21:26.53 | kergoth | ah nice |
| 21:26.56 | cladhaire | huh? |
| 21:27.10 | dylanm | I thought anyone could change that. |
| 21:27.36 | malreth | dylanm: the goal is to get clad to change it for me |
| 21:27.45 | malreth | update the url to http://wdnaddons.com/ |
| 21:27.58 | cladhaire | why? |
| 21:28.02 | cladhaire | it redirects properly |
| 21:28.08 | malreth | because i like it better that way |
| 21:28.08 | cladhaire | and wdn.wowinterface.com will be the permanent url. |
| 21:28.24 | malreth | and i'll give you ice cream if you do |
| 21:28.30 | cladhaire | mmm |
| 21:28.33 | cladhaire | i'd like ice cream righ tnow |
| 21:28.34 | cladhaire | but no. |
| 21:28.37 | malreth | rats |
| 21:28.39 | Xuerian | cogwheel: Tehehe, getting closer and closer to the 1-button combat blizzard wanted to avoid XD |
| 21:29.14 | cladhaire | Xuerian: how so? |
| 21:29.24 | cladhaire | you can already do more than this easily, within blizzard's guidelines |
| 21:29.51 | cogwheel | Xuerian: the state header's newstate system was designed specifically with this kind of thing in mind |
| 21:29.59 | malreth | also, the logo is dirty. the green circle is obviously getting rogered by the blue circle |
| 21:30.15 | Xuerian | cladhaire: Correct me if I'm wrong, that while addons such as Decursive/Squishy were the main focus of Secure Frames and macro expansion, were not also addons that at the time allowed one to carry on almost a entire fight with the repeated press off one button? |
| 21:30.33 | cogwheel | Xuerian: it's not the fact that it's one button... |
| 21:30.35 | Xuerian | cogwheel, cladhaire: Not that I'm objecting to it, it was merely a observation. |
| 21:30.41 | cogwheel | it's the decisions that button can make |
| 21:30.48 | cladhaire | you pre-program the button |
| 21:30.50 | dylanm | And they locked those down. |
| 21:30.52 | malreth | Xuerian: the key difference is the macro sequence cannot be changed in combat and it cannot make decisions about who to cast on |
| 21:31.01 | cladhaire | its a dumb sequence |
| 21:31.04 | cladhaire | and it can be screwed up |
| 21:31.26 | Xuerian | All of you: I know that. Yes, it can be screwed up, but it can also work just fine through many pve combat situations |
| 21:31.30 | dylanm | I don't think they're overly concerned about the difference between someone mashing key 1 versus someone mashing 12345 in order over and over. |
| 21:31.55 | cogwheel | Xuerian: it's no different than having five macros on five buttons and repeatedly pressing 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, |
| 21:31.57 | cladhaire | decisions aren't being made. |
| 21:31.59 | cladhaire | that's the point |
| 21:32.09 | cladhaire | :P |
| 21:32.16 | dylanm | cogwheel how did we use the same number |
| 21:32.19 | Xuerian | Put down your pitchforks, yall |
| 21:32.27 | dylanm | This is X-Files stuff. |
| 21:32.34 | Xuerian | cogwheel: It is different, you're not pressing all those buttons. You just made your own anti-point :p |
| 21:32.37 | cogwheel | dylanm: it's the combo on my luggage :P |
| 21:32.42 | dylanm | AHA |
| 21:32.43 | cogwheel | Xuerian: huh? |
| 21:32.48 | malreth | no pitchforks... we're just trying really hard to show you that you're wrong. |
| 21:32.53 | cogwheel | instead of pressing 12345, you press 11111 |
| 21:32.54 | dylanm | Now I go to the airport. |
| 21:32.58 | malreth | :D |
| 21:32.59 | Xuerian | cladhaire: Right, they're not. That's why I said "Trying to avoid" not "Hitting with the nerf bat" |
| 21:33.01 | cogwheel | it's completely stupid |
| 21:33.06 | Xuerian | cogwheel: 1~=2? |
| 21:33.27 | cladhaire | You've assuming a lot about what Blizzard did and didn't want to do |
| 21:33.35 | cogwheel | Xuerian: there is nothing fundamentally different between 12345 and 11111 except the horizontal position of your finger on the keyboard |
| 21:33.40 | Xuerian | cladhaire: And did I not say "correct me if I'm wrong"? |
| 21:33.41 | cogwheel | it's not making any sort of decisions for you |
| 21:33.46 | dylanm | Hey cladhaire do you have a download of BlessYou anywherez? |
| 21:33.46 | cladhaire | I'm trying to |
| 21:33.55 | Xuerian | Fair enough |
| 21:33.59 | cladhaire | dylanm: no, i could throw one up, but it probably breaks like who |
| 21:34.05 | dylanm | Or did you give up on the palas |
| 21:34.11 | cladhaire | i'm not leveling her right now |
| 21:34.12 | cladhaire | just dont have time. |
| 21:34.25 | dylanm | I hear ya. |
| 21:34.32 | Lunessa | werd |
| 21:34.42 | dylanm | Not a big deal I can always use one of the zillion other options for that sort of thing. |
| 21:36.25 | Thunder_Child | wow... "Student Catches Principal Fighting With Student on Cellphone Camera, School Responds By Banning Cellphones" http://gizmodo.com/336912/student-catches-principal-fighting-with-student-on-cellphone-camera-school-responds-by-banning-cellphones |
| 21:36.40 | cladhaire | dylanm: you're welcome to it. |
| 21:36.48 | cladhaire | dylanm: gimme a moment |
| 21:36.54 | cladhaire | dylanm: you're welcome to fix it up and make it work too ::P |
| 21:38.56 | dylanm | Hm why didn't they change the pala shield between merc and venge |
| 21:38.57 | cladhaire | http://files.gammatester.com/eaeff28d814cb4ab91f1f7588bfa01a6.zip |
| 21:39.15 | dylanm | cladhaire: Hot. Thankya! |
| 21:41.01 | Corrodias | ah, blessings. a good reason to play something other than a paladin. :) |
| 21:41.21 | dylanm | It's just another buff :p |
| 21:41.45 | zenzelezz | it's hard to imagine, but having played a fixer in Anarchy Online for a long time going to playing a warrior in WoW, I actually miss getting asked for buffs |
| 21:41.45 | Corrodias | yes, but you have to customize what you're giving for everybody, and change them depending on the fight |
| 21:42.01 | cladhaire | BlessYou makes that easy |
| 21:42.03 | cladhaire | thankfully |
| 21:42.58 | zenzelezz | I don't like FAQs whose only content is "This page is under construction." |
| 21:43.44 | cladhaire | lol |
| 21:43.56 | cladhaire | dylanm: lemme know if you make changes to it, or end up posting it somewhere |
| 21:43.59 | cladhaire | i'd be interested in using it :P |
| 21:44.08 | Corrodias | makes, or would make, if somebody were to, in your words, "make it work"? |
| 21:44.28 | Thunder_Child | heh "Oh by the way, tomorrow is Global Orgasm Day. (Also the winter solstice for you pagans.)" |
| 21:44.46 | Corrodias | Thunder_Child: what day isn't? |
| 21:45.00 | Thunder_Child | Corrodias, every other day it seems |
| 21:45.20 | Corrodias | i guess i haven't been observing faithfully |
| 21:45.26 | Thunder_Child | lol http://bp2.blogger.com/__XCWUd8FFjQ/R2pra5VbTdI/AAAAAAAACVw/3YYYk6GKurc/s1600-h/wonderbrafrance.jpg |
| 21:45.35 | Thunder_Child | pay carfull attention |
| 21:45.57 | Thunder_Child | careful* |
| 21:46.07 | Corrodias | i don't get it |
| 21:46.27 | Thunder_Child | it's a wonderbra add |
| 21:46.36 | Thunder_Child | and both arms are holding packages.... |
| 21:46.37 | Corrodias | not a very effective one |
| 21:46.55 | Corrodias | oh dear. |
| 21:46.57 | Thunder_Child | ya |
| 21:47.07 | Thunder_Child | now you got it |
| 21:47.09 | Corrodias | but is this the use that they are suggesting for a bra? |
| 21:47.12 | Corrodias | maybe in france... |
| 21:47.16 | Lunessa | Now that's some support! |
| 21:47.26 | Thunder_Child | yes, but it's really meant to hold up a man.... |
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| 21:50.22 | Lunessa | I think mostly it's designed to DELAY a man. |
| 21:51.52 | cogwheel | assert("$parent" in an xml attribute will evaluate to the parent's parent if the parent is anonymous) |
| 21:53.16 | zenzelezz | is that a statement or a concealed question? |
| 21:53.30 | cogwheel | #2 |
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| 21:53.47 | cogwheel | I'm calling the channel's assert function ;) |
| 21:53.55 | nevcairiel | lol |
| 21:53.58 | Kelfarr | anyone know why I don't have a font folder? Should I just make it myself? |
| 21:54.17 | nevcairiel | i would've guessed or assumed that $parent errors if the parent is anonymous |
| 21:54.23 | cogwheel | Kelfarr: because wow stores its fonts in MPQs |
| 21:54.47 | Kelfarr | yeah but to change the font with clearfont don't you need to open the font folder? |
| 21:54.48 | Lunessa | You only need to create one if you wish to override the default fonts. |
| 21:54.49 | zenzelezz | I don't know for sure cog; as far as names go my sub-frame of anonymous frames seem to get the name of the parent's parent |
| 21:54.55 | Kelfarr | oh ok thanks lunessa |
| 21:57.20 | Thunder_Child | totaly NSFW, but i am mostly posting about the puns http://fleshbot.com/336471/flesh-flicks-paper-jam |
| 21:57.41 | zenzelezz | I always knew TC was secretly into puns |
| 21:58.02 | Thunder_Child | not me, but i do know you ppl like them for some reason |
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| 22:05.49 | Shirik | cogwheel: Once again compilation failure |
| 22:05.56 | Shirik | Expected ')' before 'in' |
| 22:06.03 | cogwheel | Shirik: i wasn't asking Lua |
| 22:06.11 | Shirik | My brain operates in Lua, sorry |
| 22:06.17 | dylanm | cladhaire: I wish. I'm getting a bit sick of my paladin myself, plus I'm horrible at anything secure wrt. the api. |
| 22:06.28 | Shirik | You must call assert[["$parent" in an.... |
| 22:06.53 | Shirik | And sorry I don't know if that's true :P |
| 22:08.14 | cladhaire | dylanm: this is actually easy |
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| 22:29.12 | amro | lols http://us2.php.net/manual/en/language.variables.variable.php |
| 22:30.22 | Corrodias | okay, NOW I go shopping |
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| 22:32.43 | Corrodias | boy, i hope they have something left :( |
| 22:34.30 | Corrodias | although the only actual gift i need to buy is an electric can opener |
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| 22:57.58 | Polarina | !ap 500 |
| 22:57.59 | ThraeBot | Polarina: Arena points from a rating of 500 is, 2v2: 94, 3v3: 109, 5v5: 124 |
| 22:58.06 | Polarina | Ups.. |
| 22:58.10 | Polarina | !point 500 |
| 22:58.25 | Polarina | !points 500 |
| 22:58.25 | Xinhuan | 500 arena points require 1626(5s), 1674(3s) and 1734(2s) team rating. |
| 22:58.36 | Shirik | you meant !ar :) |
| 22:58.59 | Shirik | is it even possible to get to 500? |
| 23:00.19 | nevcairiel | that low rating, man thats hard |
| 23:01.03 | Polarina | Wrong command. |
| 23:01.06 | Polarina | !ar 500 |
| 23:01.06 | ThraeBot | Polarina: Arena rating from 500 points is, 2v2: 1734, 3v3: 1674, 5v5: 1626 |
| 23:07.39 | Thunder_Child | "Comedy Centrals The Daily Show and Colbert Report will be returning on January 7 in an all ad-lib format." thats going to be....interesting |
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| 23:08.16 | Shirik | as in |
| 23:08.16 | Shirik | unscripted? |
| 23:08.22 | Thunder_Child | thats usually what ad-lib refers to |
| 23:08.28 | Thunder_Child | e.g. ad hoc etc. |
| 23:08.47 | Shirik | impromptu is typically the term used, at least from what I've heard |
| 23:09.06 | Shirik | ~dict ad-lib |
| 23:09.07 | Thunder_Child | thats used more for live things i think |
| 23:09.26 | Shirik | well it's live |
| 23:09.28 | Shirik | to the people there :P |
| 23:09.45 | Thunder_Child | though i doubt they will be spontanious |
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| 23:09.59 | Thunder_Child | and will have prior preperation |
| 23:10.04 | Rayne | O_o |
| 23:10.11 | Mr_Rabies2 | conan o brien's pretty spontaneous despite being scripted |
| 23:10.15 | Rayne | my god I love Canada <3 |
| 23:10.19 | Thunder_Child | yay for not being able to spell worth a damn |
| 23:10.34 | Shirik | ? |
| 23:10.43 | Shirik | oh |
| 23:10.45 | Shirik | preparation? |
| 23:10.46 | Shirik | meh |
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| 23:36.25 | art3mis | man i wish warhammer would hurry up and come out |
| 23:37.08 | Tem | whyfor? |
| 23:37.12 | Tem | it looks really underwhelming |
| 23:38.20 | Cide | beta testers say it is, too |
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| 23:38.47 | art3mis | its somethign different than wow |
| 23:38.58 | art3mis | yet still mostly the same |
| 23:39.02 | Cide | so is the sunny weather outside, and it doesn't suck :) |
| 23:39.13 | art3mis | since wow was based offa warhammer to start with |
| 23:39.37 | art3mis | the sun doesnt shine at night where i live cide ;P |
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| 23:40.30 | Cide | and here it's almost 1am and cold as hell |
| 23:42.51 | Mr_Rabies2 | <art3mis> since wow was based offa warhammer to start with |
| 23:42.57 | Mr_Rabies2 | i'd say warcraft 1 and maybe 2 |
| 23:43.09 | Mr_Rabies2 | but 3 took things in a very different direction, and wow is closer to 3 than 1 or 2 |
| 23:43.42 | Mr_Rabies2 | 'sides, warhammer's based off tolkien :P |
| 23:44.17 | Mr_Rabies2 | i think i prefer wow's story to warhammer fantasy's |
| 23:44.28 | Mr_Rabies2 | now, wh40k is awesome |
| 23:44.36 | Mr_Rabies2 | but whf is generic fantasy more or less :/ |
| 23:45.40 | art3mis | heh |
| 23:45.53 | art3mis | yeah i meant that as a comment as opposed to the myriad of other rpgs that exist |
| 23:46.04 | art3mis | err mmos |
| 23:46.19 | Mr_Rabies2 | if there was a wh40k mmo |
| 23:46.21 | Mr_Rabies2 | i'd play the shit out of it |
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