00:00.08 | Shirik|Ecole | hm, apparently Conspiracy has its own status bar texture |
00:00.08 | Eve | (Bob was taken :( ) |
00:00.12 | Shirik|Ecole | so I guess I can't use that to help you |
00:00.12 | Shirik|Ecole | x:SetStatusBarTexture("Interface\\Addons\\Conspiracy\\Textures\\smooth"); |
00:00.13 | Shirik|Ecole | =( |
00:00.15 | godzirra | setting a texture you're not going to use seems silly... but ok. |
00:00.24 | Shirik|Ecole | well you do use it |
00:00.39 | Shirik|Ecole | lol.... |
00:00.40 | Shirik|Ecole | return; -- error here one day. |
00:00.42 | Shirik|Ecole | I love Cidan's comments |
00:00.57 | godzirra | Well, I guess. |
00:01.08 | FoxMcLeod | you take that texture (those are b/w usually) and paint it the color you like |
00:01.19 | godzirra | brb.. gonna try rebooting my linux bos. |
00:01.20 | Shirik|Ecole | exactly |
00:01.42 | foxlit | Well |
00:01.45 | NightHawkTheSane | Shirik|Ecole: heh, my code has a bunch of: ' todo: throw an error, eventually.. |
00:01.49 | FoxMcLeod | reboot fixes a lot but not wrong coding... I tried that |
00:01.50 | foxlit | You just want to change the color of a status bar? |
00:02.03 | Shirik|Ecole | NightHawkTheSane: I still like my 100 line comment with ASCII art |
00:02.04 | foxlit | Keeping the same texture as health/mana bars in the default UI? |
00:02.41 | foxlit | Bar:SetStatusBarColor(r, g, b[, alpha]); |
00:02.55 | foxlit | which functions like SetVertexColor on a texture |
00:04.05 | Shirik|Ecole | Gonna go get something to eat |
00:04.07 | Shirik|Ecole | take care guys |
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00:04.11 | godzirra | Wow.. much better. |
00:04.31 | godzirra | Ok.. so like I was saying... |
00:04.35 | godzirra | There's no way to avoid using a texture? |
00:04.42 | foxlit | To do what? |
00:04.47 | godzirra | Make a colored status bar |
00:05.16 | laindir | o.O I could've sworn status bars received a default texture |
00:05.48 | foxlit | You'd be wrong, then, godzirra. |
00:06.01 | godzirra | I'm not wrong... Since I'm asking a question. :) |
00:06.17 | foxlit | ... I was saying |
00:06.21 | godzirra | laindir: I thought they would, but my status bars don't show up unless I set a texture. |
00:06.36 | godzirra | foxlit: But I'd be happy for enlightenment. Very happy, in fact. |
00:07.05 | foxlit | Solid color? |
00:07.07 | godzirra | Yup. |
00:08.12 | FoxMcLeod | I good at working around little flaws so I would just set a texture that is plain white :) |
00:08.17 | FoxMcLeod | +am |
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00:10.07 | FoxMcLeod | eventually my "work arounds" create little memory leaks... well but thats the price I have to pay or rather my users ;) |
00:10.14 | godzirra | lol. |
00:10.19 | godzirra | foxlit: So how do I do that? |
00:10.38 | foxlit | You don't, unfortunately :) |
00:10.51 | foxlit | I was thinking you just wanted to recolor a status bar :) |
00:11.06 | godzirra | lmao |
00:11.28 | FoxMcLeod | StatusBar:SetStatusBarTexture("some plain white thingy here"); |
00:11.29 | godzirra | Well how do I load the texture and then promptly ignore it? Can I create a blank texture on the fly and color it? |
00:11.40 | foxlit | And yeah, status bar vanishes if you try to set it to something non-texture-like |
00:12.00 | godzirra | like if I have a texture created, I can do this: StatusBar1BG:SetTexture(123, 66, 99); |
00:12.01 | foxlit | You can't create textures, not really. |
00:12.04 | godzirra | Blah. |
00:12.12 | foxlit | See, I tested that. No, you can't. |
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00:12.17 | foxlit | It only takes a file name |
00:12.20 | godzirra | Yes you can. |
00:12.21 | godzirra | its in the spec =p |
00:12.25 | godzirra | Wait.. |
00:12.28 | godzirra | statusbar1bg is a texture object. |
00:12.31 | godzirra | not a status bar object :) |
00:12.33 | godzirra | to clarify |
00:12.41 | godzirra | StatusBar1 is a statusbar object. |
00:12.48 | godzirra | foxlit: but that answers my question =p |
00:13.00 | FoxMcLeod | I beg to differ: Frame:CreateTexture() ^^ |
00:13.02 | godzirra | is there a way to make the status bar's texture invisible then use a color afterwards? |
00:13.05 | godzirra | Ooh. |
00:13.16 | foxlit | Fox: texture widget, not an actual texture |
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00:13.35 | godzirra | darnit. |
00:13.38 | FoxMcLeod | well CreateTexture does not create a texture like you need there but it still creates a texture ;) |
00:13.42 | godzirra | how do I make the texture invisible? :p |
00:13.52 | foxlit | :Hide(); |
00:13.56 | godzirra | Wait. |
00:14.02 | godzirra | thats not quite what I maen i don't think. |
00:14.05 | FoxMcLeod | by setting its alpha to 0? |
00:14.21 | godzirra | thats what i needed. I thought SetStatusBarTexture only allows for 1 arg though? |
00:15.45 | MentalPower | StatusBar:SetStatusBarTexture(StatusBar:CreateTexture()) |
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00:16.03 | godzirra | Huh... that works? |
00:16.15 | FoxMcLeod | actually it allows 2 :) |
00:16.29 | MentalPower | FoxMcLeod: 3 :) |
00:16.44 | MentalPower | oh, nm |
00:16.54 | MentalPower | thought you were refering to CreateTexture |
00:16.54 | FoxMcLeod | ? |
00:17.01 | FoxMcLeod | heeh nope |
00:17.21 | MentalPower | godzirra: StatusBar:GetStatusBarTexture():SetAlpha(0) |
00:17.38 | Lukian | !c US Jubei'Thos Debilton |
00:17.41 | ThraeBot | Lukian: Debilton, Level 60 Night Elf Druid (46/0/1). 2493 HP; 3874 Mana; 151 mana regen; 15 mp5; 4.21% melee crit; 14 spell crit; 85 +spell dmg/heal; 27 nature dmg (112); 7.40% dodge; 10 nature resist (+10);[[ TBR: 462 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/yr9e9h ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/33nwgw ][ Updated: Tue Dec 18 19:20:25 2007 EST ]] |
00:17.57 | MentalPower | !c us alleria kyro |
00:18.00 | ThraeBot | MentalPower: Kyro, Level 67 Night Elf Druid (0/0/58). 6792 HP; 3702 Mana; 118 mana regen; 35 mp5; 650 AP; 125.100 Melee DPS; 10.04% melee crit; 53 melee hit; 18.03% dodge; 21 resilience; 3 arcane resist; 10 nature resist (+10); +39 all resists (+10 nature);[[ TBR: 669 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/2yqao2 ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/2u3xty ][ Updated: Tue Dec 18 19:20:44 2007 EST ]] |
00:18.01 | MentalPower | !c us alleria mentak |
00:18.02 | FoxMcLeod | w00t |
00:18.03 | ThraeBot | MentalPower: Mentak, Level 60 Human Priest (10/0/41). 3387 HP; 6321 Mana; 249 mana regen; 23 mp5; 39 spell crit; 148 +spell dmg; 321 +heal; 5.00% dodge; 14 shadow resist; 34 fire resist;[[ TBR: 755 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/yvjltp ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/2qtcyo ][ Updated: Tue Dec 18 19:20:48 2007 EST ]] |
00:18.04 | godzirra | MentalPower: yeah, that doesnt work. ;) |
00:18.04 | FoxMcLeod | cool bot |
00:18.13 | godzirra | Ooh. thats neat. |
00:18.18 | godzirra | !c us lothar zepia |
00:18.19 | MentalPower | godzirra: what doesn't work? |
00:18.25 | godzirra | Damn. :/ |
00:18.29 | godzirra | i'm not cool enough. |
00:18.37 | MentalPower | lvl 10 min |
00:18.39 | godzirra | MentalPower: StatusBar:SetStatusBarTexture(StatusBar:CreateTexture()) |
00:18.44 | godzirra | MentalPower: zepia's level 70 =p |
00:19.37 | FoxMcLeod | there are spaces in my servers name :/ |
00:19.42 | MentalPower | godzirra: well, its just a texture object, it doesn't have any properties |
00:20.30 | foxlit | GetStatusBarTexture():SetTexture(1,1,1) |
00:21.32 | Lukian | !c US Jubei'Thos Merlock |
00:22.03 | FoxMcLeod | hmm flood protection ? |
00:22.22 | godzirra | Hrm. |
00:22.26 | foxlit | I'd bet more on armory HTTP lookup freezing |
00:22.31 | godzirra | foxlit: thats what I did already, but I'm getting errors. |
00:22.45 | godzirra | function arguments expected near : |
00:22.46 | godzirra | oh. duh. |
00:23.20 | godzirra | no... that still isnt working. |
00:23.21 | godzirra | Hrm. |
00:24.05 | MentalPower | any errors? |
00:24.31 | godzirra | Nope. |
00:24.33 | godzirra | Just a white bar. |
00:24.37 | godzirra | Which is my background texture. |
00:25.59 | godzirra | http://wowi.pastey.net/79207 |
00:26.01 | godzirra | thats my code. |
00:27.57 | FoxMcLeod | -.- |
00:28.32 | FoxMcLeod | not even one return in that... my computer sciences teacher would roll in his grave if he'D be finally dead |
00:28.54 | godzirra | Eh. |
00:29.01 | godzirra | i'm a perl guy. We don't usually need to return. |
00:29.14 | godzirra | regardless, that shouldn't keep it from working |
00:29.18 | godzirra | What am I actually doing wrong? |
00:30.07 | FoxMcLeod | Hmm, is the StatusBar Shown() by deafult? |
00:30.08 | foxlit | void functions, tbh |
00:30.19 | foxlit | everything is shown by default |
00:30.22 | FoxMcLeod | k |
00:30.26 | foxlit | unless its hidden |
00:30.36 | FoxMcLeod | another 5 lines I can cut my code |
00:31.11 | godzirra | Its not hidden. |
00:31.12 | foxlit | You probably don't need PlayerHealthBar:SetStatusBarTexture(PlayerHealthBar:CreateTexture()); |
00:31.23 | foxlit | so lines 23 and 16 |
00:31.32 | laindir | foxlit, that's what we've been trying to determine |
00:31.43 | godzirra | ok... but the problem is my health WILL show up if the commented out line is uncommented |
00:31.45 | laindir | whether the bar can be show without explicitly setting a texture |
00:31.47 | godzirra | they dnot show up any other time. |
00:32.21 | foxlit | laindir: Is a texture _object_ a valid parameter there? |
00:32.31 | godzirra | Probably not |
00:32.32 | MentalPower | yes |
00:32.33 | godzirra | since its not working. |
00:32.36 | MentalPower | it is |
00:32.40 | godzirra | then why isn't it working? :) |
00:32.56 | godzirra | I believe you. Pretty much everyone knows more about ui coding than me... |
00:33.00 | godzirra | just tell me what I'm doing wrong ;) |
00:33.03 | MentalPower | godzirra: try setting the texture's color before applying it to the status bar |
00:33.13 | godzirra | How? |
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00:33.27 | godzirra | Can I do playerTexture = Frame:CreateTexture()? |
00:33.28 | laindir | I haven't done anything with status bars in almost a year, but I don't remember anything about setting a texture... color yes, texture no |
00:33.38 | godzirra | laindir: thats what i'm trying to do. |
00:33.41 | godzirra | I dont -want- a texture. |
00:33.49 | foxlit | lain: you likely inherited from somewhere that gave you a texture to work with? |
00:33.54 | MentalPower | local tex = StatusBar:CreateTexture() tex:SetTexture(1,1,1,1) StatusBar:SetFrigginTexture(tex) |
00:34.01 | laindir | foxlit, that was my understanding |
00:34.03 | godzirra | k |
00:34.09 | Texture | I feel unwanted and neglected. |
00:34.26 | MentalPower | ~lart FoxMcLeod |
00:34.26 | purl | slaps a compatible dib on FoxMcLeod's head |
00:35.12 | Shirik|Ecole | rofl |
00:35.14 | Shirik|Ecole | " Hi looking for the /script command that makes it look like you have tons of gold, but all it's doing is changing how much silver=1gold, etc you get what I mean. Thanks!" |
00:35.45 | MentalPower | Shirik|Ecole: err... huh? |
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00:35.53 | Shirik|Ecole | wow forums |
00:36.06 | foxlit | if (getDate() == "April 1st") then GetPlayerMoney = function() return 0; end GetContainerItem = function() return nil; end ... end |
00:36.31 | godzirra | MentalPower: still no love. |
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00:36.37 | Shirik|Ecole | it's just GetMoney() :) |
00:37.40 | MentalPower | if (getDate() == "April 1st") then for k in pairs(_G) do _G[k] = nil end end |
00:37.50 | godzirra | MentalPower: so yeah.... I don't know what to do here. |
00:37.51 | MentalPower | much better :P |
00:38.18 | MentalPower | godzirra: does it have a texture afterwards? |
00:38.29 | godzirra | What do you mean? |
00:38.36 | foxlit | MP: just hide the world frame, np |
00:38.38 | MentalPower | ie, can you do a /dump StatusBar:GetFrigginTexture() |
00:38.42 | godzirra | Oh.. ok. |
00:38.45 | godzirra | let me try that. |
00:38.50 | foxlit | Replace with hello kitty texture |
00:39.03 | Shirik|Ecole | GetFrigginTexture() |
00:39.05 | Shirik|Ecole | awesome |
00:40.10 | Shirik|Ecole | I seriously wish they wouldn't change avatars so drastically during events |
00:40.15 | Shirik|Ecole | I can understand resknning and all |
00:40.20 | Shirik|Ecole | but I can't see who's who by avatar anymore |
00:40.45 | art3mis | sure you can |
00:40.50 | laindir | shirik|ecole, Your skill in Reading has increased by 1. |
00:40.55 | art3mis | jelly is the candy cane with the bitter taste ;P |
00:40.55 | godzirra | MentalPower: When I do /dump StatusBar1:GetStatusBarTexture() it says "(table: 0EC4950)" |
00:41.01 | art3mis | nlcllc1! |
00:41.47 | Shirik|Ecole | godzirra: um |
00:41.50 | Shirik|Ecole | do you have devtools? |
00:41.59 | godzirra | Nope. |
00:42.02 | godzirra | where do I get them? |
00:42.05 | Shirik|Ecole | ok, get it and try again :P |
00:42.06 | Shirik|Ecole | ~devtools |
00:42.07 | purl | Iriel's DevTools, a highly useful set of debugging tools for developers on WoW. Found at http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/fileinfo.php?id=3999 Why isn't it in the default client yet? |
00:42.53 | godzirra | installing it now. |
00:42.55 | Shirik|Ecole | Devtools will expand a /dump so that you don't just know it's a table |
00:42.57 | godzirra | well, restarting wow =p |
00:42.59 | Shirik|Ecole | but you can see everything inside it |
00:43.14 | FoxMcLeod | w00t neat |
00:43.21 | FoxMcLeod | I need those devtools |
00:43.26 | Shirik|Ecole | devtools does a lot more than this |
00:43.30 | Shirik|Ecole | but that is one of the things it does |
00:43.41 | Shirik|Ecole | dtframestack is my <3 right now |
00:43.43 | FoxMcLeod | But then again, when the tools get to comfortable the programmers gets sloppy and lazy |
00:44.01 | Shirik|Ecole | what |
00:44.05 | Shirik|Ecole | you mean like visual studio? |
00:44.13 | FoxMcLeod | hehe yeah |
00:44.15 | Shirik|Ecole | and the fact that practically every Windows program violates best practices? |
00:44.34 | Shirik|Ecole | impossible, something like that would NEVER happen |
00:44.40 | Shirik|Ecole | and then cause an entire OS to have trouble running software |
00:44.41 | godzirra | Shirik|Ecole: ok, it now says DevTools: StatusBar1:GetStatusBarTexture() |
00:44.41 | Shirik|Ecole | never! |
00:44.47 | godzirra | [1]={ |
00:44.55 | Shirik|Ecole | there should be more :P |
00:44.59 | Shirik|Ecole | the rest of the table |
00:45.00 | godzirra | [0]=<userdata> |
00:45.00 | godzirra | } |
00:45.02 | Shirik|Ecole | oh ha |
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00:45.05 | godzirra | I was still typing :) |
00:45.10 | godzirra | on my laptop, so I'm slow. |
00:45.12 | Shirik|Ecole | so all it has is userdata inside |
00:45.33 | Shirik|Ecole | but that's the texture |
00:45.33 | MentalPower | which is normal |
00:45.40 | Shirik|Ecole | is it? I don't usually work with these things directly |
00:45.42 | Shirik|Ecole | Cidan does all the GUI stuff |
00:46.09 | godzirra | does that mean there's a texture or that there isn't? |
00:46.22 | MentalPower | there is |
00:46.38 | MentalPower | at any rate, I'm out of ideas |
00:46.49 | godzirra | bleh. |
00:48.22 | godzirra | so back to, how do I show the statusbar, but make the status bar's texture invisible so I can color the bar? |
00:48.47 | godzirra | and why is my freaking texture always white, no matter what I set the RGB to? :/ |
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00:49.10 | FoxMcLeod | Here I go again use a plain white texture and color it with Texture:SetVertexColor(); |
00:49.12 | Shirik|Ecole | Shirik > kamdis |
00:49.23 | Shirik|Ecole | > |Jelly|work |
00:49.24 | Shirik|Ecole | > You |
00:49.49 | godzirra | FoxMcLeod: i'd rather use status bars and figure out what i'm doing wrong then do it a different way and not learn what I was doing wrong to begin with. |
00:50.18 | FoxMcLeod | I know |
00:50.45 | sag_ich_nicht | both parts of Sul'thraze just dropped in one run. and we predicted that they will drop. |
00:50.49 | Shirik|Ecole | godzirra |
00:50.52 | Shirik|Ecole | maybe show us your code? |
00:50.55 | FoxMcLeod | but if you have to set a texture create one yourself, color it and then put it on your statusbar |
00:51.01 | godzirra | I did, but I'll show it again :) one sec. |
00:51.11 | FoxMcLeod | http://wowi.pastey.net/79207 |
00:51.46 | godzirra | http://wowi.pastey.net/79208 is the most recent. |
00:51.53 | FoxMcLeod | oh ok |
00:52.05 | Shirik|Ecole | especially at MyFirstAddon_Frame1_OnEvent() |
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00:52.24 | godzirra | Shirik|Ecole: i'm trying to get it working since i'm a noob, and I'll clean it up afterwards. |
00:52.32 | godzirra | And yes, I actually will go back and clean it up... |
00:52.34 | godzirra | once I know what I'm doing. |
00:52.38 | Shirik|Ecole | I don't see you changing colors |
00:52.59 | FoxMcLeod | I think he tries to do that in line 17 |
00:53.12 | FoxMcLeod | and 24 |
00:53.13 | godzirra | Right. |
00:53.16 | godzirra | Its commented out currently. |
00:53.25 | Shirik|Ecole | You should be using StatusBar1:SetStatusBarColor() |
00:54.07 | FoxMcLeod | err and by the way the values for R, G and B go from 0 to 1 I think |
00:54.12 | godzirra | Yeah, I tried that too, and I can't see any difference in my screen shots. |
00:54.16 | godzirra | 0 to 1? How odd. |
00:54.32 | Shirik|Ecole | I find 255 to be odd :) |
00:54.43 | FoxMcLeod | yeah FF ftw |
00:54.52 | godzirra | FF? |
00:54.57 | FoxMcLeod | Final Fantasy |
00:55.05 | FoxMcLeod | err no Hexadecimal :) |
00:55.14 | Shirik|Ecole | Even in the APIs I wrote for this board I'm working on, where I know that internally it really is a 255 |
00:55.20 | Shirik|Ecole | I made a wrapper that accepts 0 to 1 |
00:55.27 | Shirik|Ecole | because there's no guarantee it might be 0-255 in the future |
00:55.38 | Shirik|Ecole | and the same thing is true here -- how do you know they're working on that bit depth? |
00:55.51 | Shirik|Ecole | 0 to 1 will appropriately accomdodate for htis :) |
00:55.55 | laindir | godzirra and shirik|ecole, they're semantically equivalent, one is expressed as a floating point over a continuous range whereas the other is expressed as the numerator of an equivalent fraction |
00:56.03 | Shirik|Ecole | semantically, yes |
00:56.09 | Shirik|Ecole | as far as the function is concerned, they're not |
00:56.14 | Shirik|Ecole | here it only works 0 to 1 |
00:56.28 | Shirik|Ecole | and laindir, that is only true if you're working with 8-bit numbers |
00:56.38 | Shirik|Ecole | That's my point |
00:56.48 | laindir | shirik|ecole, you could translate instantly by dividing by 256 |
00:56.56 | Shirik|Ecole | but what if the depth changed |
00:57.03 | Shirik|Ecole | and we aren't working with 8-bit numbers anymore |
00:57.11 | godzirra | well, that works. |
00:57.13 | Shirik|Ecole | 0 to 1 would still be perfect, whereas 255 wouldn't. |
00:57.24 | godzirra | I'd still rather do it without a texture loading, but oh well. |
00:57.31 | laindir | exactly, the 0 to 1 is implemented over a continuous range rather than a set of discrete values |
00:57.35 | Shirik|Ecole | godzirra: So SetStatusBarColor worked? |
00:57.43 | godzirra | Yes, if I load a texture. |
00:57.43 | Shirik|Ecole | laindir: exactly.... |
00:57.47 | Shirik|Ecole | what are you trying to argue here? |
00:57.47 | FoxMcLeod | So by using 0 to 1 we're ready for any new depth coming in the next centuries |
00:57.57 | Shirik|Ecole | godzirra: good good :) |
00:57.58 | godzirra | one sec, trying it without. |
00:58.03 | Shirik|Ecole | iirc you have to have a texture |
00:58.07 | Shirik|Ecole | otherwise it doesn't know what to paint |
00:58.20 | godzirra | nope, definitely need both. |
00:58.21 | godzirra | right. |
00:58.40 | Shirik|Ecole | FoxMcLeod: I like being safe :) |
00:58.48 | Shirik|Ecole | I dislike that in the year 2038 we're going to have another Y2K |
00:59.06 | Shirik|Ecole | haha btw I read something in QNX documentation while on the plane today |
00:59.07 | laindir | FoxMcLeod, theoretically yes... but it depends on implementation... the function might very well simply multiply by the field length and truncate |
00:59.08 | Shirik|Ecole | it amused me |
00:59.21 | FoxMcLeod | WorldTexture:SetVertexColor(0.5, 0, 0.2, 0.3); Yay |
00:59.30 | FoxMcLeod | hmm yeah *nodnod* |
00:59.55 | Shirik|Ecole | here it is |
01:00.07 | godzirra | Shirik|Ecole: so what is a better way to handle the variables than to make the globals the way I have? |
01:00.27 | FoxMcLeod | make them local :) |
01:00.44 | Shirik|Ecole | "The internal date and time representation reaches its maximum value in 2554. If your system must operate past 2554 and there's no way for the system to be upgraded or modified in the field, you'll have to take special care with system dates (contact us for help with this)." |
01:01.08 | godzirra | making them local makes them local to the function? Or to the plugin? |
01:01.10 | Lonny | Anyone knows a good GDI/GDI+ channel ? |
01:01.18 | FoxMcLeod | to the lua file |
01:01.24 | FoxMcLeod | well to the block |
01:01.25 | Shirik|Ecole | (Preceeded by "Valid dates on a QNX Neutrino system range from January 1970 to January 2554, but note that POSIX-compliant code may be limited to the year 2038.") |
01:01.42 | FoxMcLeod | but since they are on the lowest lvl they would be local to tthe whole file |
01:01.49 | Shirik|Ecole | godzirra: To the file |
01:01.53 | Shirik|Ecole | but yes to the block |
01:02.00 | Shirik|Ecole | Wrote an article on this a while ago |
01:02.01 | Shirik|Ecole | where is it |
01:02.12 | godzirra | that wold be helpful. |
01:02.15 | Shirik|Ecole | http://wowwiki.com/Lua_variable_scoping |
01:02.16 | godzirra | FoxMcLeod: so to the funciton? |
01:02.17 | godzirra | thanks. |
01:02.19 | godzirra | i'll read. |
01:03.02 | FoxMcLeod | if you define a var inside a function and make it local it can only be used in the function (I think I read you article :) ) |
01:03.20 | godzirra | Gotcha. |
01:03.28 | godzirra | So its the same as in pretty much every other language. ;) |
01:04.25 | Thunder_Child | wow, i have just been informed that i have been entered inthe UK national Lottery |
01:04.29 | FoxMcLeod | Well not every other language, because when I tell my girlfriend something within a specified frame, she usually is able to use it against me any other time... |
01:05.10 | FoxMcLeod | haven't found out to tell here that's it's only local information -.- |
01:05.17 | Shirik|Ecole | Thunder_Child: Quickly, give them your bank account |
01:05.21 | Shirik|Ecole | so that you can win your earnings |
01:05.30 | Thunder_Child | Shirik|Ecole, surprisingly they dont want it....yet |
01:05.34 | Shirik|Ecole | they probably need your social security number too |
01:05.38 | Shirik|Ecole | for the UK lottery |
01:05.38 | Thunder_Child | To file for your claim, please contact our |
01:05.39 | Thunder_Child | fiduciaragent with your |
01:05.40 | Thunder_Child | complete details: |
01:05.42 | Thunder_Child | (1)COMPLETE LEGAL NAMES: |
01:05.43 | Thunder_Child | (2)CURRENT CONTACT |
01:05.44 | Thunder_Child | ADDRESS/TELEPHONE:NUMBERS: |
01:05.45 | Thunder_Child | (3)OCCUPATION: |
01:05.47 | Thunder_Child | (4)REFERENCE/BATCH/DRAW NUMBERS: |
01:05.53 | Thunder_Child | stupid paster |
01:05.55 | Shirik|Ecole | no SSN? |
01:05.58 | Shirik|Ecole | huh |
01:06.01 | Thunder_Child | not yet at any rate |
01:06.02 | Shirik|Ecole | I would have thought the UK lottery needed it |
01:06.26 | Lonny | Any good C#/C++ (Winodws API) channels I can use, need to ask some questions :P |
01:06.31 | Shirik|Ecole | You can ask here |
01:06.38 | Shirik|Ecole | I think I know too much about C++ including winapi |
01:06.39 | Thunder_Child | you just wont get a good answer :p |
01:06.42 | Shirik|Ecole | hey! |
01:06.45 | Lonny | Ah great! :P |
01:06.54 | Shirik|Ecole | As for C# |
01:07.01 | Shirik|Ecole | I will probably recommend you shoot yourself |
01:07.11 | Thunder_Child | ~shoot Shirik|Ecole |
01:07.11 | purl | ACTION shoots Shirik|Ecole in the foot with a cork gun! |
01:07.13 | Shirik|Ecole | or your hard drive |
01:07.17 | Shirik|Ecole | that way the C# is gone |
01:08.55 | Shirik|Ecole | anyway what was your question? |
01:08.58 | Thunder_Child | boo http://www.rlslog.net/torrentspy-loses-case-against-mpaa/ |
01:09.09 | Lonny | Well I want to change the default behaviour of the CheckedListBox OnDrawItem function so I can use my own custom CheckBox control instead |
01:10.18 | Shirik|Ecole | hm, what are you using to create your GUI? |
01:10.25 | Shirik|Ecole | That's not MFC for sure |
01:10.31 | Shirik|Ecole | but it's not raw API either |
01:10.58 | Lonny | Yeah it's not |
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01:11.35 | Lonny | It's C# however C++ would be good enough if you can explain |
01:12.09 | Shirik|Ecole | unlikely, because that's not even remotely how we do it in C++ :/ |
01:12.34 | Shirik|Ecole | we would respond to the WM_PAINT message |
01:13.07 | Shirik|Ecole | So sorry I can't be much help there :/ |
01:13.55 | Lonny | I know I can use MFC but I don't want to create everything from scarch : |
01:13.58 | Lonny | :| |
01:14.09 | Shirik|Ecole | Don't do it |
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01:14.19 | Shirik|Ecole | MFC is nice and all but it can really limit you too |
01:14.30 | Shirik|Ecole | if you can do everything else without MFC, then you shouldn't be using it |
01:14.34 | Shirik|Ecole | it's geared towards beginners imo |
01:15.07 | Shirik|Ecole | I wasn't saying you should use MFC, just commenting that it doesn't look like Win API to me nor does it look like MFC |
01:15.20 | Shirik|Ecole | unless microsoft did something really strange in C# |
01:17.37 | Lonny | Well yeah it's nothing similar to MFC anyway, though you can still use it |
01:18.45 | Lonny | Well I guess I'll disassemble the framework and see what MS done there, it's absurd : |
01:18.46 | Lonny | :| |
01:19.04 | AnduinLothar | DamageMeters v5.8.0 |
01:19.04 | AnduinLothar | *"Only Monitor Group Members" now includes group pets. |
01:19.04 | AnduinLothar | *"Treat Pet Data As Your Data" now also works for group member's pets. (See the Players section of the read me for more information: Known Group Pet Exception Cases) |
01:20.08 | Shirik|Ecole | sec Lonny I'm checking this out right now |
01:20.31 | Shirik|Ecole | heh, trying to add this converted my project to CLR |
01:20.34 | Shirik|Ecole | yuck |
01:20.36 | Lonny | Ag great mate, that would be helpful :P |
01:22.36 | Shirik|Ecole | yeah unfortunately I haven't the slightest clue what I'm looking at right now |
01:22.48 | Lonny | :P |
01:22.51 | Shirik|Ecole | do you still have a message loop? |
01:23.07 | Shirik|Ecole | something like this? |
01:23.36 | Shirik|Ecole | while (GetMessage(...)) { TranslateMessage(...) DispatchMessage(...) } |
01:23.58 | Lonny | nop |
01:24.02 | Shirik|Ecole | bleh |
01:24.17 | Shirik|Ecole | yeah the way I would do it is just catch the WM_PAINT message and then override the default handler for the control |
01:24.28 | Shirik|Ecole | unfortunately I'm not sure if you can do that |
01:24.54 | Lonny | I can |
01:25.10 | Shirik|Ecole | you have something like this, right? |
01:25.11 | Shirik|Ecole | private: System::Windows::Forms::CheckedListBox^ checkedListBox1; |
01:25.28 | Lonny | Yeah |
01:25.45 | Shirik|Ecole | wtf is the ^ ? |
01:26.09 | laindir | shirik|ecole, I assume it denotes instantiation of a class |
01:26.21 | buu | I'm sort of hoping it was a typo. |
01:26.31 | Shirik|Ecole | it was definitely generated by a wizard |
01:26.34 | Shirik|Ecole | I hope wizards don't make typos |
01:26.58 | Shirik|Ecole | laindir: Unless it somehow converted my project to C#, it shouldn't |
01:26.59 | buu | What.. language? |
01:26.59 | Lonny | In C# that would be private System.Windows.Forms.CheckedListBox clb = new System.Windows.Forms.CheckedListBox |
01:27.02 | Shirik|Ecole | this is C++ |
01:27.10 | buu | That's not valid.. |
01:27.22 | Shirik|Ecole | that's why I'm confused! |
01:27.28 | Shirik|Ecole | but it definitely compiles |
01:27.32 | buu | What you get for using windows/c++/mfc, etc. |
01:27.34 | buu | Wut!? |
01:27.42 | Shirik|Ecole | meh, I was just trying to test out what he's trying to do |
01:27.47 | Shirik|Ecole | I don't usually use this designer |
01:27.47 | Lonny | Shirik how did you conver it ? |
01:27.54 | Shirik|Ecole | I just told it to create a new windows form |
01:27.56 | Lonny | convert* |
01:27.56 | Shirik|Ecole | and added that in |
01:28.09 | Shirik|Ecole | It popped up a message saying that I'm not currently configured to use CLR and that the project will be changed |
01:28.11 | Shirik|Ecole | and I hit OK |
01:28.38 | Lonny | Well that's not C++ but Managed C++ it's slightly different |
01:28.43 | Shirik|Ecole | but even intellisense is confused right now |
01:28.52 | Shirik|Ecole | I try to access that variable and intellisense gets pissed |
01:29.07 | FoxMcLeod | Parser:"I have a ^ here." Compiler:"A WHAT ?!?" Parser:" A ^, you like a small arrow." Compiler:"What the hell, I'll just ignore it." |
01:29.17 | Lonny | lol |
01:29.27 | Shirik|Ecole | Intellisense: Could not understand expression to the left of '.' or '->' |
01:29.49 | Shirik|Ecole | FoxMcLeod: lol |
01:30.11 | Shirik|Ecole | Actually ^ is a valid operator in C++ |
01:30.14 | godzirra | ok, thanks for all the help. Time to go kill some Alliance members. |
01:30.15 | Shirik|Ecole | it's just like... almost never used |
01:30.16 | godzirra | =) |
01:30.22 | Shirik|Ecole | and definitely not valid used there :P |
01:30.51 | Shirik|Ecole | wtf is this |
01:30.52 | Shirik|Ecole | this->checkedListBox1 = (gcnew System::Windows::Forms::CheckedListBox()); |
01:30.55 | Shirik|Ecole | ok this language confuses me |
01:31.07 | Lonny | haha |
01:31.33 | Shirik|Ecole | I like C++ |
01:31.35 | Shirik|Ecole | I'll stay there :P |
01:31.54 | Shirik|Ecole | I hated C# and this Microsoft managed crap already, and now I hate it even more >< |
01:32.04 | Shirik|Ecole | the C apis are more than adequate for me :) |
01:32.24 | Lonny | I'm with you :P |
01:32.34 | Lonny | Though it's my work >< |
01:32.50 | Shirik|Ecole | Well fortunately for me, we aren't allowed to use C# |
01:32.54 | Shirik|Ecole | and C++ only got recently approved |
01:32.57 | Shirik|Ecole | and that took forever |
01:33.03 | Lonny | Haha |
01:33.08 | Shirik|Ecole | I doubt any new languages will be approved anytime soon |
01:33.24 | Shirik|Ecole | I'm ok with Java being approved if they do that, but it's highly unlikely for at least a few years. |
01:33.50 | Lonny | The thing is that there are no documentation for GDI+ at least not as much as you see for MFC : |
01:34.01 | Shirik|Ecole | I <3 the MSDN |
01:34.10 | Shirik|Ecole | C APIs are heavily documented |
01:34.15 | Lonny | Yeah |
01:34.53 | FoxMcLeod | If I make a var global, other AddOns would be able to call it too, right? |
01:34.58 | Shirik|Ecole | FoxMcLeod: yes |
01:34.59 | Lonny | But for C# haha I have to disassemble and reinvent which drive me crazy :| |
01:35.03 | Shirik|Ecole | All addons share the same execution environment |
01:35.14 | FoxMcLeod | Ok, so I better name them carefully -.- |
01:35.31 | Shirik|Ecole | or make them local if you don't want them to be callable :) |
01:35.57 | FoxMcLeod | somehow if make may function local, other functions can't call them |
01:36.08 | Shirik|Ecole | I think I know what your problem is |
01:36.11 | Shirik|Ecole | are you trying to do something like this? |
01:36.27 | Lonny | Not to mention that HLA sucks it's weird :| |
01:36.28 | Shirik|Ecole | lua> local function foo() return bar() end; local function bar() return 1; end; print(foo()) |
01:36.29 | lua_bot | Shirik|Ecole: [string "local function foo() return bar() end; loca..."]:1: attempt to call global 'bar' (a nil value) |
01:36.51 | FoxMcLeod | exactly |
01:36.57 | buu | That's hilarious. |
01:37.05 | Shirik|Ecole | ok take note that the error message says "attempt to call GLOBAL 'bar'" |
01:37.10 | Shirik|Ecole | that's important |
01:37.17 | Shirik|Ecole | Problem is when foo() was compiled, there was no local bar() |
01:37.23 | Shirik|Ecole | so it assumed it was global |
01:37.28 | Shirik|Ecole | bar() wasn't created until after foo() |
01:37.36 | Shirik|Ecole | you have two solutions: Either put bar before foo() like this: |
01:37.40 | FoxMcLeod | ok so I have to change the order of my function? |
01:37.48 | FoxMcLeod | +s |
01:37.50 | Shirik|Ecole | lua> local function bar() return 1; end; local function foo() return bar() end; print(foo()) |
01:37.51 | lua_bot | Shirik|Ecole: 1 |
01:37.56 | Shirik|Ecole | or... pre-declare the local |
01:38.11 | laindir | as much fun as a global bar would be, I'll take a local one any day... micro-brew ftw |
01:38.15 | Shirik|Ecole | lua> local bar; local function foo() return bar() end; bar = function() return 1; end; print(foo()) |
01:38.15 | lua_bot | Shirik|Ecole: 1 |
01:38.19 | FoxMcLeod | na, I have like 20 functions in there to much work :) |
01:38.41 | FoxMcLeod | I cut&Paste them into the right order |
01:38.52 | Shirik|Ecole | but yeah the easiest thing to do is change your order |
01:38.54 | Shirik|Ecole | and generally that's recommended |
01:38.59 | Shirik|Ecole | just sometimes that's not an option |
01:39.29 | FoxMcLeod | k but if I creat one var in a function which I need in another it's ok to make it global, right? |
01:39.52 | Shirik|Ecole | "is it ok" is up to debate |
01:39.56 | Shirik|Ecole | how global do you need it? |
01:40.06 | Shirik|Ecole | why couldn't it just be a local variable to the file? |
01:40.12 | FoxMcLeod | hmm I could pre-declare it alright |
01:40.25 | FoxMcLeod | ok I'll do that |
01:40.26 | Shirik|Ecole | it could also become an upvalue |
01:40.28 | Shirik|Ecole | for example |
01:41.09 | Shirik|Ecole | function makeMyFrame(n) local f = CreateFrame"FRAME"; local p = n * 100; f:SetScript("OnEvent", function() DEFAULT_CHAT_FRAME:AddMessage(p) end); end |
01:41.12 | Shirik|Ecole | that's legal |
01:41.25 | Shirik|Ecole | just because p isn't in the function doesn't necessarily mean it's inaccessible |
01:42.00 | FoxMcLeod | i see |
01:42.23 | Shirik|Ecole | cladhaire uses this technique, for example |
01:42.30 | Shirik|Ecole | in the lua bot |
01:43.02 | Shirik|Ecole | we get upvalues, not globals |
01:43.11 | FoxMcLeod | k |
01:43.11 | Shirik|Ecole | lua> print = nil; |
01:43.11 | lua_bot | Shirik|Ecole: |
01:43.15 | Shirik|Ecole | eh |
01:43.19 | Thunder_Child | heh |
01:43.20 | Shirik|Ecole | lua> print = nil; return 4; |
01:43.20 | lua_bot | Shirik|Ecole: 4 |
01:43.23 | Thunder_Child | ~fail Shirik|Ecole |
01:43.24 | purl | Shirik|Ecole: Fail. |
01:43.35 | Shirik|Ecole | naturally if I had changed print, it shouldn't have been able to output 4 :) |
01:44.06 | Shirik|Ecole | but obviously print wasn't declared in my chunk either |
01:44.21 | Shirik|Ecole | instead it was created in a chunk above it, but below the global namespace |
01:44.30 | Alestane|wow | lua> print = nil; print(4) |
01:44.31 | lua_bot | Alestane|wow: 4 |
01:44.40 | Shirik|Ecole | heh, I'm surprised it let you do that |
01:44.59 | Shirik|Ecole | ok so maybe the bot works a bit differently than I thought, but the idea is the same |
01:45.07 | Shirik|Ecole | I'm sure there's upvalues somewhere in it :P |
01:45.16 | FoxMcLeod | a rearranging the function is a pita |
01:45.27 | Shirik|Ecole | FoxMcLeod: Other languages have the same problems :) |
01:45.31 | Shirik|Ecole | C, for example |
01:45.41 | Shirik|Ecole | lua> return getmetatable(getfenv(0)) |
01:45.41 | lua_bot | Shirik|Ecole: nil |
01:45.44 | Alestane|wow | Must be something like setfenv(0, setmetatable({}, {__index=getfenv(0)}) |
01:46.24 | Shirik|Ecole | apparently not :P |
01:46.24 | FoxMcLeod | yeah I I should know that, I learned the basics of C++ |
01:46.24 | Alestane|wow | Only apparently not. |
01:46.24 | Shirik|Ecole | but at least we were thinking along the same lines :) |
01:46.24 | Alestane|wow | Unless it also has a __metatable method. |
01:46.24 | Shirik|Ecole | you can't make __metatable equal to nil though |
01:46.33 | Alestane|wow | But won't it block getmetatable? |
01:46.40 | Shirik|Ecole | no, you would get whatever it's set to |
01:46.43 | Shirik|Ecole | it only blocks setmetatable |
01:46.59 | Shirik|Ecole | lua> return getmetatable(setmetatable({}, {__metatable = 4})) |
01:46.59 | lua_bot | Shirik|Ecole: 4 |
01:47.22 | Thunder_Child | ... |
01:47.40 | Shirik|Ecole | ...? |
01:48.07 | Alestane|wow | lua> return getmetatable(setmetatable({}, (__metatable = function() return nil end}) |
01:48.08 | lua_bot | Alestane|wow: sandbox.lua:298: Compilation failed: [string "return getmetatable(setmetatable({}, (__metatable = function() ..."]:1: ')' expected near '=' |
01:48.11 | Thunder_Child | nvm, thought you messes up |
01:48.20 | Thunder_Child | now i have to learn it just to insult you |
01:48.33 | Alestane|wow | lua> return getmetatable(setmetatable({}, {__metatable = function() return nil end}) |
01:48.33 | lua_bot | Alestane|wow: sandbox.lua:298: Compilation failed: [string "return getmetatable(setmetatable({}, {__metatable = function() ..."]:1: ')' expected near '<eof>' |
01:48.40 | ScytheBlade1 | Whoops |
01:48.44 | Lonny | haha :D |
01:48.48 | Alestane|wow | lua> return getmetatable(setmetatable({}, {__metatable = function() return nil end})) |
01:48.48 | lua_bot | Alestane|wow: function: 0x8083e78 |
01:48.50 | ScytheBlade1 | Hydross wearing a Riding Crop, not a DPS trinket |
01:50.18 | Alestane|wow | I coulda sworn that there was a way to hide your metatable if you wanted really private classes. |
01:51.19 | Alestane|wow | But apparently not. |
01:52.01 | Shirik|Ecole | Alestane|wow: You could just do what I do |
01:52.08 | Shirik|Ecole | I set __metatable to an empty table |
01:52.49 | Shirik|Ecole | or you could make a proxy table |
01:52.55 | Shirik|Ecole | but that's kinda ugly |
01:53.45 | art3mis | wheeeeeeeeee! |
01:53.53 | Shirik|Ecole | too much beer? |
01:53.53 | art3mis | RPCoverHTTP is finally working on my exchange box! |
01:53.56 | Shirik|Ecole | oh |
01:54.03 | Shirik|Ecole | yeah that's kinda the geek beer |
01:54.08 | art3mis | 5 days of cablevisiobn not knowing that 135 was perm blocked |
01:54.21 | art3mis | and 2 days of trying to figure out what i was missing for the clients |
01:54.49 | art3mis | had someone check and it was all cofiged right then found an obscure post about installing the root CA |
01:54.53 | art3mis | and poof working! |
01:54.57 | Alestane|wow | I think part of what cladhaire does is save a table and copy it to the environment for each call or something. I know the indivdual calls are sandboxed from each other. |
01:55.49 | FoxMcLeod | There you go, the only global are my OnEvent function, my StartUp function and the vars I want to safe between sessions |
01:55.50 | Alestane|wow | Could always ask him. |
01:56.10 | Alestane|wow | Those last ones HAVE to be global. |
01:56.46 | FoxMcLeod | I know, thats why I left them global, the rest is local now, hooray for clean code |
01:57.35 | Alestane|wow | Environments and local upvalues make lua very good at sandboxing. |
01:57.38 | Shirik|Ecole | the OnEvent function shouldn't need to be global unless you're using XML :) |
01:57.51 | FoxMcLeod | I am |
01:57.58 | Shirik|Ecole | now, what about the variables in the OnEvent function |
01:58.03 | Shirik|Ecole | are you using the global event/arg1/etc? |
01:58.28 | FoxMcLeod | eeh, yeah I think, let me check |
01:58.35 | Shirik|Ecole | they're slooooowww |
01:58.48 | Alestane|wow | And they might break, and they can be prone to taint. |
01:58.51 | Shirik|Ecole | your OnEvent function should accept (self, evt, arg1, arg2, arg3, etc) |
01:58.59 | Shirik|Ecole | really the best way to write it imo is (self, evt, ...) |
01:59.00 | Shirik|Ecole | that's how I do it |
01:59.16 | Alestane|wow | And start with local arg1, arg2, arg3 = ... |
01:59.27 | Alestane|wow | Or use descriptive names better yet. |
01:59.33 | FoxMcLeod | hehe |
02:00.19 | FoxMcLeod | how can I make an event local, it'S created by this:RegisterEvent(...) isn't it? |
02:00.22 | Shirik|Ecole | the workings behind Conspiracy's signal handler: http://wowi.pastey.net/79210 |
02:00.24 | Shirik|Ecole | eew |
02:00.28 | Shirik|Ecole | "this" is bad too :P |
02:00.33 | FoxMcLeod | hehe |
02:00.40 | Alestane|wow | I like constructions like if event == "UNIT_SPELLCAST_SENT" then local spell, rank, target = select(2, ...) etc. |
02:00.45 | FoxMcLeod | this should be the name of my mainframe? |
02:00.57 | Alestane|wow | self:RegisterEvent(), but yeah. |
02:01.27 | Alestane|wow | Any script called from an XML handler has an implicit self parameter. |
02:01.50 | FoxMcLeod | usually I just accpet what experienced people tell ma but whats the difference between this:.. and self:... |
02:02.16 | Alestane|wow | this is a global variable. |
02:02.22 | FoxMcLeod | oh ok |
02:02.26 | Alestane|wow | _G["this"] |
02:02.44 | Alestane|wow | self is a parameter to the function, i.e. an externally defined local variable. |
02:02.55 | art3mis | i think it shuld be a rule that at elast one varibale in every addon should be "cheese" |
02:03.11 | Shirik|Ecole | note that my OnEvent handler accepts a "self" parameter |
02:03.26 | Shirik|Ecole | while I don't use it, thats what I /would/ use in place of 'this |
02:04.06 | Alestane|wow | art3mis: I know I submitted a C++ project in college that contained "// Congratulations! You've found the mystery comment!" but it doesn't actually contribute to code readability. |
02:04.16 | Shirik|Ecole | rofl |
02:04.25 | Shirik|Ecole | actually, I know someone that did that in my class |
02:04.27 | Lonny | Hmm say I have a global table "Foo" that I use as the addon namespace, would it be good to use local Foo = Foo, what impact will it have ? |
02:04.34 | Shirik|Ecole | he wrote // You know, nobody ever reads these comments |
02:04.46 | Shirik|Ecole | it was like on page 15 of 20 pages |
02:04.57 | Shirik|Ecole | and on the grade sheet he got "by the way, I read that comment" |
02:05.20 | FoxMcLeod | Hmm I think every AddOn should have cheese = thisAddOn as global var, so every AddOn could fight for it |
02:05.46 | Alestane|wow | FoxMcLeod: Inside "<OnEvent> blah blah </OnEvent", "self", "event", and the vararg ... are defined exactly as if you had written it as "function (self, event, ...) blah blah end". |
02:06.21 | FoxMcLeod | oh ok |
02:06.40 | Alestane|wow | <OnLoad>...</OnLoad> just defines self though. |
02:06.41 | godzirra | Hrm. What event is it when you gain xp? |
02:06.46 | Corrodias | well, i get my t4 legs now |
02:06.59 | Corrodias | the further loss of stamina over the clefthoof ones is kinda disturbing, though |
02:07.14 | Alestane|wow | what parameters are defined depends on what <On> you're writing. |
02:07.18 | Shirik|Ecole | devtools can tell you this, godzirra |
02:07.21 | Shirik|Ecole | type /dtchatevent |
02:07.23 | godzirra | Ooh nice. |
02:07.30 | Shirik|Ecole | then click the [#] next to the message that tells you you gained XP |
02:07.35 | Thunder_Child | http://gizmodo.com/335515/dosugus-cushion-from-art-lebedev-look-closely-optimusjpg |
02:07.42 | godzirra | Hrm |
02:07.46 | godzirra | I have to go get xp then :/ |
02:07.52 | Shirik|Ecole | it will tell you the event along with all args |
02:07.55 | godzirra | I'm sitting in the crossroads ignoring the world :) |
02:08.01 | FoxMcLeod | attempt to index global 'self' (a nil value) |
02:08.32 | Alestane|wow | In what code? |
02:08.53 | FoxMcLeod | arg, I have to pass it to the function in XML, right? |
02:08.57 | Lonny | I think you have to send it |
02:09.14 | Alestane|wow | <OnEvent> MyEventHandler(self, event, ...) </OnEvent> |
02:09.47 | Thunder_Child | "This photo, taken at the new 14th Street Apple Store, shows that the Genius Bar can solve computer malfunctions, but not wardrobe ones." |
02:09.47 | Thunder_Child | http://cache.valleywag.com/assets/resources/2007/12/GeniusBarThong-thumb.jpg |
02:09.51 | godzirra | Shirik|Ecole: that didnt actually tell me anything. |
02:09.57 | Shirik|Ecole | why not? |
02:09.59 | Shirik|Ecole | it should tell you the event |
02:10.04 | Alestane|wow | Assuming that MyEventHandler = function (self, event, ...) blah blah end |
02:10.17 | FoxMcLeod | damn it, stupid visual studio is always editing my xml -.- |
02:10.45 | godzirra | It didnt. |
02:10.49 | Shirik|Ecole | uh |
02:10.54 | Shirik|Ecole | you clicked the [#] next to the message? |
02:11.08 | Shirik|Ecole | that says "You gained 938242349823094 experience" |
02:11.09 | godzirra | It said "Chat Event Monitoring Enabled" and I killed something and got xp, then clicked the # |
02:11.12 | godzirra | oh... wait. |
02:11.14 | godzirra | I'm not looking at the c ombat log. |
02:11.18 | godzirra | sorry.. user stupidity. |
02:11.22 | Shirik|Ecole | it should be in a popup |
02:11.39 | godzirra | CHAT_MSG_COMBAT_XP_GAIN? |
02:11.46 | Lonny | yup |
02:11.49 | Lonny | I think so |
02:11.54 | godzirra | But I'm guessing that doesnt trigger when I complete a quest? |
02:12.00 | Shirik|Ecole | hm, good point |
02:12.01 | Shirik|Ecole | sec |
02:12.04 | godzirra | hehe |
02:12.07 | godzirra | thanks for your help btw. |
02:12.15 | godzirra | and I -did- try to find it in the API docs first before asking |
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02:12.30 | Shirik|Ecole | nope, it is fired |
02:12.39 | Shirik|Ecole | "CHAT_MSG_COMBAT_XP_GAIN" |
02:12.39 | Shirik|Ecole | Category: Player |
02:12.39 | Shirik|Ecole | |
02:12.40 | Shirik|Ecole | Fired when you gain xp from killing a creature or finishing a quest. Does not fire if you gain no xp from killing a creature. |
02:12.47 | godzirra | huh |
02:12.49 | godzirra | pl |
02:12.50 | godzirra | err ok |
02:12.56 | alestane | "PLAYER_XP_UPDATE" |
02:13.12 | godzirra | ahh thats what i wanted |
02:13.23 | Shirik|Ecole | btw |
02:13.24 | Shirik|Ecole | http://wowwiki.com/Events_(API) |
02:13.33 | Shirik|Ecole | if you didn't know where to look |
02:13.56 | alestane | I might shy away from "CHAT_MSG_COMBAT_XP_GAIN" just because the upcoming combat log changes might affect it. |
02:14.05 | Shirik|Ecole | a valid point |
02:14.13 | FoxMcLeod | all done, even event is now not a global but an upvalue |
02:14.33 | godzirra | well, I wanted all xp changes regardless. |
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02:14.36 | Shirik|Ecole | eh, it should be local really but ok :) |
02:15.03 | Shirik|Ecole | Hi Iriel |
02:15.06 | alestane | Iriel! |
02:15.10 | Shirik|Ecole | question: Did you recommend Canon or Nikon lenses to me |
02:15.13 | Shirik|Ecole | I forgot >< |
02:15.16 | Iriel | Evening all... |
02:15.24 | Lonny | Hello |
02:15.53 | Iriel | Shirik|Ecole: I didn't recommend either, 8-) I said I use Nikon but I hear Canon are just as good, you just find the one with the balance of prices and ranges you like the best. |
02:16.09 | Shirik|Ecole | ok :) That's why I couldn't remember |
02:16.20 | Iriel | I also may have mentioned that I have a couple of Tamron lenses i'm fairly happy with |
02:16.29 | Shirik|Ecole | I still need a new camera |
02:18.13 | Iriel | I'm still waiting for my D300 to arrive.. My wife got a D80 for christmas, it's pretty spiffy |
02:19.10 | Shirik|Ecole | ah so you got one? |
02:19.34 | Shirik|Ecole | ok my flight is boarding now, I gotta go |
02:19.36 | Shirik|Ecole | have fun everyone |
02:19.43 | godzirra | How do i specify what layer something is on? |
02:19.52 | godzirra | I've got 2 status bars for xp, rested and then a texture for the background |
02:20.53 | Iriel | :SetDrawLayer in lua, IIRC |
02:21.19 | Lonny | Is it worth referencing the global table to a local variable or it's useless (local Foo = Foo) ? |
02:21.41 | Iriel | Lonny: Depends how often you use Foo, and if it's going to change |
02:22.16 | Lonny | What do you mean by "going to change" ? |
02:22.58 | Iriel | Well, if it's a variable whose value changes (say it's a counter for something) then you'd want to keep using the global version |
02:24.04 | alestane | Iriel: Did you ever get to look over that code I sent you a while back? |
02:24.11 | Lonny | Hmm nop it's a table that I use similar to a namespace which holds all the addon methods and stuff |
02:24.51 | alestane | Then you probably wanted to declare it local anyway, |
02:24.52 | Iriel | alestane: I did, I keep meaning to reply then find I have more work to do. I like the direction you're headed in. |
02:25.00 | FoxMcLeod | Shirik|Ecole: Ha, that's what you get for helping me, now your in my acknowledgements :) |
02:25.06 | godzirra | Iriel: where 1 is the top? And further down is loewr numbers? |
02:25.11 | Lonny | Ah ok, thank you :) |
02:25.13 | FoxMcLeod | your -> you're |
02:25.35 | Iriel | Lonny: In that case, I'd say that yes, you should make it local. |
02:26.05 | Iriel | godzirra: I dont recall offhand |
02:26.12 | godzirra | I'll find out. Thanks. :) |
02:26.18 | Iriel | godzirra: Actually, they're strings |
02:26.34 | Iriel | godzirra: "ARTWORK" "HIGHLIGHT" etc.. see Ui.xsd for the possible values |
02:26.52 | Iriel | FrameLevel is the only numeric one |
02:27.10 | Iriel | Which MAY be what you're looking for anyway, it depends what the things you're ordering are |
02:27.12 | godzirra | Ah. Hrm. |
02:27.27 | Iriel | DrawLayer alters the order of layers (Textures, FontStrings) within a single frame |
02:27.29 | godzirra | Well, its two status bars and a texture. Just trying to get my xp/rested/background setup. |
02:27.38 | alestane | One weird alternative is to declare your table, set myTable._G = getfenv(0), and then setfenv(1, myTable) early in your Lua. |
02:27.40 | Iriel | FrameLevel alters the order of Frames (includes StatusBars) |
02:28.12 | Iriel | alestane: Dont you need a meta __index there too for that to be non-irritating |
02:28.26 | FoxMcLeod | Layerlevels are: BACKGROUND, BORDER, ARTWORK, OVERLAY and HIGHLIGHT |
02:29.04 | godzirra | but my status bars are on the asme frame... |
02:29.27 | Iriel | godzirra: Are they not StatusBar objects, but instead just Textures ? |
02:29.39 | godzirra | 1 is a texture (the background) and the other 2 are status bars |
02:29.56 | alestane | Depends how you want your code to run...using _G requires that you make global references explicit, or you can setfenv(1, setmetatable(mytable, {__index = myTable._G})) to sandbox yourself from the globals while still being able to read them AS globals. |
02:30.25 | alestane | But without the metatable, _G[] still contains the old global list. |
02:31.23 | Iriel | alestane: That was what I meant by 'irritating' (Having to _G everything), but I susppose it teaches you to pull anything you care about into scope |
02:31.40 | Thunder_Child | heh, http://soundsofthecinema.blogspirit.com/images/iBoob.jpg |
02:31.48 | alestane | Depends how much of it you need to do and whether you want to catch yourself doing it. |
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02:33.22 | Guillotine | <PROTECTED> |
02:33.40 | Guillotine | I owned my CS final today. It was a 2 hour final, I finished it in 9 minutes and got an A. w00t! |
02:34.19 | Lonny | Nice :) |
02:34.37 | FoxMcLeod | yay, I just found SizeUp Gizmo, it's updated to WoW 2.0, I loved that little buddy when I lvld my first char |
02:35.09 | godzirra | what is it? |
02:35.39 | art3mis | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aCxDZRJKkqY |
02:35.56 | Iriel | Guillotine: I can't even begin to imagine a meaningful test that could be completed in 9 minutes |
02:36.08 | Guillotine | Iriel: It wasn't by any means |
02:36.14 | Guillotine | all multiple choice and true and false questions :( |
02:36.14 | FoxMcLeod | basically a unitframe of you and your target plus an emoticon and moving bar which show the most likely outcome of the fight |
02:36.17 | Guillotine | and stupid ones at that |
02:36.24 | godzirra | lol |
02:36.30 | Lonny | haha :P |
02:36.44 | Guillotine | FoxMcLeod: link? |
02:36.53 | art3mis | so guill made a lua script that simply bases it's TF responses off of the inputted question |
02:36.55 | Iriel | Guillotine: Ah.. like: RAM stands for [A] Random Access memory [B] Central Processing Unit [C] Disk Operating System [D] None of the above ? |
02:36.59 | art3mis | and he ocr scanned the test |
02:37.05 | FoxMcLeod | http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info6924-SizeupGizmoRedone.html |
02:37.06 | art3mis | and poof out popped the answers |
02:37.14 | Guillotine | Iriel: sadly, that was our first midterm. But yes, that bad :P |
02:37.19 | Lonny | lol ... :| |
02:37.29 | FoxMcLeod | its not very usefull for raiding imo, but still funny |
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02:38.28 | Guillotine | seriously, when colleges won't do anything about prereqs, it really sucks :( I knew more than my prof |
02:38.45 | alestane | Iriel: was DoubleWide you or cladhaire? |
02:38.54 | Iriel | me |
02:38.55 | Lonny | I'll ask again anyone know a good GDI/GDI+ channel to free me out of my misery :) |
02:39.39 | art3mis | #sad_lonny_needs_gdi_or_gdiplus_help |
02:39.48 | FoxMcLeod | I'm more the NOD-type *nodnod* |
02:39.55 | Lonny | something like that :D |
02:40.01 | Iriel | alestane: I believe I commented on the taint thread, though i've not checked back for colorful discourse |
02:40.27 | art3mis | colourful discource and taint thread should never be used together |
02:40.39 | art3mis | discourse |
02:40.45 | Lonny | I just don't want to make something someone already done and I cannot find it on the net :P |
02:41.18 | alestane | You did, and I didn't see any colorful discourse. But when someone said they thought it was you, I couldn't remember whether it was you or Jim who actually wrote the thing, and I don't believe that your comment actually acknowledged you as the author. Just setting my mind at rest. |
02:42.13 | art3mis | lonny: you want to make an addon that will target the nearest person ask if they "would like some toast", open trade put in mulgore bread click trade and then start a campfire? |
02:42.27 | Fin | 50 dollar |
02:42.31 | alestane | I did like the guy's statement that "Just an FYI, using a hook for GetQuestLogTitle is very bad practice and should be avoided" |
02:42.45 | Fin | 45 dollar |
02:42.47 | Fin | friend price |
02:42.59 | alestane | Istead, apparently, I should go through every font string in the quest log and update them afterward. |
02:43.00 | Adys | make it 40 |
02:43.18 | art3mis | alestane: for the next day anytime someone mentions the word "hook" in coding you should post a response about this being a programming thread and not one for fishing! |
02:43.28 | Fin | hey you want buy??!!?? |
02:43.33 | alestane | What do the odds look like at this point that 2.3.2 will drop Christmas morning? |
02:43.36 | Fin | 40 dollar! 40 dollar! |
02:43.37 | Lonny | art3mis that was funny, really. |
02:43.51 | Fin | you buy? |
02:43.51 | art3mis | i know! |
02:44.12 | Lonny | You might want to do such a thing yourself, might help you advanced in life. |
02:44.24 | Fin | you buy! |
02:44.28 | art3mis | maybe but unlikely |
02:44.39 | art3mis | once you're acreddited with making HKUI everything is downhill |
02:44.42 | Lonny | You never know :) |
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02:44.55 | FoxMcLeod | Some said to my today, that as long as an AddOn can make food, it's a good AddOn. |
02:45.11 | FoxMcLeod | That idea gets pretty close |
02:45.34 | art3mis | lonny: http://wowinterface.com/downloads/info7517-HelloKittyIslandAdventure.html incase you're confused as to what HKUI is ;P |
02:45.39 | Taeri | I think I told you I wanted your addon to make me food |
02:45.51 | FoxMcLeod | right |
02:46.08 | Thunder_Child | Lazy people |
02:46.11 | alestane | I love it when people ask questions I already have the answer to: http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=3547665674&sid=1 |
02:46.54 | Taeri | Wooow, the forums have gone all icy in the background |
02:47.55 | Thunder_Child | hello Taeri, and welcome to winter |
02:47.56 | FoxMcLeod | hmm is it because of the winter festival or did they secretly already release WotLK |
02:48.06 | Lonny | art3mis ... lol |
02:48.34 | FoxMcLeod | that HKUI is awesome... no wait aweful is the word I was looking for |
02:48.46 | Thunder_Child | indeed FoxMcLeod |
02:49.19 | Thunder_Child | sadly we cant insult him any more due to the resistance he has built up |
02:49.25 | Lonny | Yeah it's colorful. |
02:49.26 | alestane | I've always maintained that it's both, actually. |
02:50.52 | Fin | at least he deserves it |
02:50.59 | FoxMcLeod | I think with this shock I will be off to bed... |
02:51.25 | FoxMcLeod | and remember every caster that is seriously raiding needs a KaratinaBar |
02:51.33 | FoxMcLeod | ;) |
02:53.05 | Taeri | why "Karatina"? |
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02:53.22 | FoxMcLeod | Its the name of my main character, lvl 70 priest |
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02:54.55 | FoxMcLeod | This way I hope some ally mage might spare my holy ass when they recognize my name :) |
02:55.35 | FoxMcLeod | gn8 |
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03:02.58 | art3mis | http://www.mmowned.com/forums/ui-macro-discussions/58730-hello-kitty.html#post477954 |
03:03.01 | art3mis | sweet! |
03:03.06 | art3mis | exploiters love my ui too ;P |
03:03.40 | Guillotine | bad art3mis. stop visiting bad sites |
03:03.46 | Guillotine | <PROTECTED> |
03:04.18 | Taeri | Hello Kitty ui? >__> |
03:04.23 | Guillotine | don't ask |
03:04.44 | Taeri | I do believe I just did. |
03:05.14 | Guillotine | don't ask again |
03:05.17 | Guillotine | :P |
03:05.25 | Taeri | But I wanna know! |
03:05.41 | Guillotine | http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info7517-HelloKittyIslandAdventure.html |
03:05.46 | NightHawkTheSane | even script kiddies have feelings. |
03:05.51 | art3mis | the single greatest ui ever created ;P |
03:06.20 | art3mis | heh and i got it linked on a wired blog and guardian.co.uk blog and hellkitty.com ;) |
03:06.22 | Thunder_Child | Taeri, ... |
03:06.29 | art3mis | my evil is spreading! |
03:06.42 | Guillotine | art3mis: hellkitty? sounds kinky |
03:07.20 | Thunder_Child | i dunno, the leather is kinda tastefull |
03:07.31 | art3mis | errr kittyhell |
03:07.36 | art3mis | http://www.kittyhell.com/2007/10/21/hello-kitty-world-of-warcraft/ |
03:07.50 | Taeri | right... 0.o |
03:07.58 | Lonny | art3mis I wish I had your inspiration :P |
03:07.58 | Thunder_Child | not much of a better name.... |
03:08.10 | Thunder_Child | Lonny, you are dead to us |
03:09.24 | Lonny | I rather be dead |
03:11.31 | Guillotine | So what do you guys use for smooth scaling without a change in position? Just have it anchored to a frame that doesn't scale or dividing by old scale and multiplying by new one to change the position? |
03:11.54 | Iriel | Guillotine: For StatRings I did dynamic recalculation |
03:12.09 | Iriel | Guillotine: Internally it used its own reference coordinate system and mapped that to whatever the frames were up to |
03:12.38 | Guillotine | hmm |
03:14.01 | Guillotine | its really just a minimap button so it might not be worth it to have all those calculations. I might be better off just attaching it |
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04:07.09 | godzirra | So how do I find out what order the layers are laid out in? |
04:13.20 | Thunder_Child | http://www.wowwiki.com/XML_User_Interface#Layers_and_Textures |
04:16.57 | godzirra | Hrm... ok. I'm not sure what I'm doing wrong. I have 2 status bars and a background. |
04:17.03 | godzirra | I see the background, and one status bar, but not the second. |
04:18.22 | godzirra | Should I not set it up to be XPStatusBar, XPRestedStatusBar, and then XPBackgroundBar? |
04:18.37 | godzirra | (brb) |
04:22.41 | Corrodias | bah. under our current guild rules, though my druid needs nothing from kara, i can't take my hunter because he's my alt |
04:24.02 | ScytheBlade1 | It could be worse... |
04:24.13 | ScytheBlade1 | Your guild could have been out-progressed by the rest of the server... |
04:24.22 | Esamynn | Corrodias: that seems....silly |
04:24.22 | laindir | corrodias, take him to a pug |
04:24.33 | Corrodias | not much chance of that, but i'm trying |
04:27.03 | Thunder_Child | Corrodias, is your dru a healer or tank? |
04:28.27 | Corrodias | tank/dps |
04:29.22 | laindir | how many kara groups does your guild run? |
04:29.42 | Corrodias | 2 |
04:30.17 | laindir | and do you usually have a waitlist? |
04:30.51 | Corrodias | the current rules were set up in such a way as to encourage people to get their mains as well-geared as they can while bringing characters powerful enough to make it smooth sailing instead of noob alts all over the place |
04:31.12 | Corrodias | i.. think so, yes. there are several subs available to take spots |
04:31.47 | laindir | my guild went through something similar, I think as long as there're mains who need gear, they should get priority for a raid spot |
04:32.47 | Corrodias | well, it's not just that; for the sake of consistency, even if nobody wanted the spot, it's my druid or nothing. i understand and somewhat agree with it, so i won't be complaining, but it does leave me short of options for what to do with my hunter |
04:33.05 | laindir | pugs and heroics |
04:33.38 | Corrodias | speaking of which, i think our realm must be getting unpopular or something. hardly any pugs are going. for anything. |
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04:53.44 | Thunder_Child | lol, (takes a huge ton of time to load though) http://www.readyforcrysis.com |
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05:07.49 | Thunder_Child | you people are boring |
05:09.53 | batrick | no youa re |
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05:10.14 | Thunder_Child | i know, thats why i am not entertaining others...just waiting to be entertained |
05:17.53 | Thunder_Child | although i am watching "David Hasselhoff - Hooked on a Feeling" atm |
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05:27.21 | Thunder_Child | gah, lightroom and firefox take up 65% of my ram |
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05:56.44 | *** topic/#wowi-lounge is #wowi-lounge: Paste Code Here: http://wowi.pastey.net | 2.3.x ToC: 20300 | "2012 so the zombies can eat us." - Lopeppeppy |
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06:00.39 | Thunder_Child | Tierrie, isnt really comparable to PS beacuse this is more of an orginazational program with light editing than and editing program with no orginization |
06:02.54 | Thunder_Child | unless you have a CS version previous to 3, because lightroom is an evelution from one of them |
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06:03.01 | Thunder_Child | evolution* |
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06:09.12 | End | interesting, apparently removing certain fonts from the global enviroment causes bad things |
06:10.11 | End | (where bad things is a crash) |
06:10.24 | Esamynn | interesting |
06:10.50 | Esamynn | sounds like you need to narrow it down and make a "slouken: I crash WoW" thread |
06:10.50 | End | Program:C:\Program Files\World of Warcraft\WoWTest\Wow.exe |
06:10.50 | End | File:.\WorldText.cpp |
06:10.50 | End | Line:435 |
06:10.50 | End | Expr:fontName && *fontName |
06:11.09 | End | yeah, I suppose |
06:11.26 | End | although, depending on where the error might be, it might not be a big deal :P |
06:11.27 | Thunder_Child | End, we have had that around here beofre |
06:11.38 | Thunder_Child | cant remember who had it though |
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06:11.49 | End | well, I'm doing bad things in the first place 8-) |
06:11.58 | Esamynn | bottom line is though, you shouldn't be able to hard crash the game |
06:12.15 | Esamynn | errors up the ying yang is one thing |
06:12.16 | Thunder_Child | WoW crashes for me quite often |
06:12.29 | Esamynn | oh? |
06:12.38 | Thunder_Child | i send the reports in and relaunch |
06:13.19 | End | WoW crashes on my desktop sometimes, but I think I have either bad memory or a bad motherboard |
06:13.27 | Esamynn | ok, let me re-phrase, if you can reproduce a crash that involes mucking with the UI, slouken generally wants to know about it |
06:13.43 | End | this font one definitely involves mucking with the UI :P |
06:13.45 | Esamynn | ~lart Thunder_Child |
06:13.45 | purl | cats /dev/urandom into Thunder_Child's ear |
06:13.59 | End | my other ones, not so much :( |
06:14.00 | Esamynn | Thunder_Child: just being premtive :p |
06:14.02 | Thunder_Child | well as i say all problems are caused by PEBKAC, though i usually cant reproducethem |
06:14.18 | Thunder_Child | indeed Esamynn, indeed |
06:14.22 | Thunder_Child | i will get you later |
06:14.26 | Esamynn | ;) |
06:14.59 | Esamynn | well, good night |
06:15.54 | Thunder_Child | ~coward Esamynn|Away |
06:16.05 | Thunder_Child | ...damit purl_ |
06:17.42 | Thunder_Child | ~ping |
06:17.42 | purl | pong |
06:18.51 | End | ermph, no, I'm hiding a frame I think |
06:19.55 | End | this is gonna take a while to track down :o |
06:24.01 | AnduinLothar | should i get spellsurge or 30int for my hijal healing mace that happens to be better than my tanking mace as well... |
06:24.55 | AnduinLothar | prolly int |
06:32.23 | NightHawkTheSane | does spellsurge proc on seals/judgement/consecration? |
06:38.29 | Corrodias | you know what's weird? druids get a stamina buff for bear form, but the gear stamina just doesn't reach the levels a warrior's plate can, at kara/gruul level anyway |
06:39.07 | Corrodias | our MT had 20k health while buffed today, and i'm sitting here barely at 18000 |
06:39.42 | Corrodias | although he might have stacked food and elixirs for health. hmm. |
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06:55.35 | Thunder_Child | http://www.no-clutter.com/gallery/albums/motivational/oh-look.jpg |
06:57.24 | Guillotine | Corrodias In general, in tanking gear, I have slightly more health than our main tanks |
06:57.29 | NightHawkTheSane | yay! cupcakes! |
06:57.37 | Guillotine | but remember, pallies essentially have 15% extra since they take 50% damage below 30% |
06:58.09 | NightHawkTheSane | it's 30% less under 35% health |
06:58.26 | Guillotine | oh |
06:58.42 | Guillotine | so its only like 10% extra |
06:58.53 | NightHawkTheSane | something like that, yeah |
06:59.05 | Guillotine | but they have insane +stam talents |
06:59.17 | NightHawkTheSane | yeah 16% sta from talents |
06:59.42 | NightHawkTheSane | (and you -know- that'll get patched in the expansion when it outscales everyone else :P) |
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07:04.20 | Thunder_Child | http://coh.tritonius.com/PornPoster2.jpg |
07:06.46 | Thunder_Child | http://bp1.blogger.com/_mQWwvm5h1-o/Rv3BEAsq8vI/AAAAAAAAACU/L4o6V2HZ3xI/s1600-h/Statistics+demotivator.jpg |
07:07.22 | Thunder_Child | http://bp2.blogger.com/_mQWwvm5h1-o/RqGTtN3nKFI/AAAAAAAAABc/3cv5de4fUuY/s1600-h/Second+Chances.jpg |
07:08.37 | Thunder_Child | http://bp3.blogger.com/_mQWwvm5h1-o/RiVLTYjPGDI/AAAAAAAAAA0/xWf0OPfUZ2I/s1600-h/Genuine+Advantage+Demotivator.jpg |
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07:11.35 | Guillotine | stop linking keyloggers TC |
07:12.47 | Thunder_Child | Guillotine, why? if you click it you diserve it |
07:12.50 | Thunder_Child | deserve* |
07:12.52 | Thunder_Child | w/e |
07:13.57 | Thunder_Child | Guillotine, and because you said that, this first one will be devoted to you |
07:14.15 | Guillotine | first what? |
07:14.29 | Thunder_Child | i found a motavator generator |
07:14.38 | Thunder_Child | Motivator* |
07:14.49 | NightHawkTheSane | motivator? i hardly know her |
07:15.09 | Thunder_Child | ~groan NightHawkTheSane |
07:15.22 | Thunder_Child | purl_ you fail yet again |
07:16.05 | NightHawkTheSane | ~lart purl |
07:16.05 | purl | does a little 'dpkg -P nighthawkthesane' action |
07:16.11 | NightHawkTheSane | ... dammit! |
07:24.52 | Corrodias | well, don't i feel silly now |
07:25.03 | Thunder_Child | i dunno, do you? |
07:25.31 | Corrodias | i just pasted a link to some porn on megaupload into the LFG channel because i forgot i had copied it into my clipboard, overwriting my LFG call |
07:25.53 | Corrodias | i knew that was going to happen some day |
07:26.50 | NightHawkTheSane | goddammit |
07:27.00 | NightHawkTheSane | the empty bowl of teriyaki is making me hungry again |
07:27.21 | Corrodias | but teriyaki is a flavor, isn't it? |
07:28.03 | NightHawkTheSane | well,if you refer to teriyaki as a dish, it's usually meat and/or vegetables over rice, with teriyaki sauce :P |
07:28.35 | Corrodias | ah |
07:28.40 | NightHawkTheSane | well, i guess to be pricise |
07:28.55 | NightHawkTheSane | teriyaki is the cooking style, the sauce being a distinctive part of it |
07:29.40 | NightHawkTheSane | but now i'm rambling. the point is, i had a bowl of vegetable & rice teriyaki, and it was really good. the empty bowl still smells good and now I'm hungry again |
07:29.41 | Thunder_Child | Corrodias, i would only be worried if you got takers after pasting it |
07:30.05 | MentalPower|DVD | Corrodias: pray that no one was looking |
07:30.24 | MentalPower|DVD | Corrodias: otherwise you're prolly looking at a 3day suspension |
07:31.17 | Corrodias | nobody sounded very interested |
07:36.51 | NightHawkTheSane | mmm. blackberry wine. |
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08:08.36 | MentalPower|DVD | lua> table.insert({}, "foo") |
08:08.37 | lua_bot | MentalPower|DVD: |
08:08.52 | MentalPower|DVD | lua> return table.insert({}, "foo") |
08:08.53 | lua_bot | MentalPower|DVD: |
08:09.14 | MentalPower|DVD | lua> local t = {} table.insert(t, "foo") return t |
08:09.15 | lua_bot | MentalPower|DVD: { "foo" } (#1) |
08:09.19 | MentalPower|DVD | right |
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08:13.27 | NightHawkTheSane | "It's history, it's already been done! All we have to do now is make sure that we do it then!" |
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08:30.39 | NightHawkTheSane | "Very damaged. Zathras can never have anything nice." |
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08:36.22 | MentalPower|DVD | babylon5 |
08:36.55 | Nargiddley | stop making me want to watch it! |
08:37.10 | NightHawkTheSane | "Why do you're people always ask if one is ready before doing something massively unwise." ;) |
08:37.17 | NightHawkTheSane | Nargiddley: you know you want to. |
08:37.30 | Nargiddley | i'm already watching dr who |
08:37.42 | NightHawkTheSane | ooh, new who, or classic? |
08:37.45 | Nargiddley | new |
08:37.49 | NightHawkTheSane | nice, which? |
08:38.01 | Nargiddley | 1x05 |
08:38.28 | Nargiddley | wait its 6, Dalek |
08:38.34 | NightHawkTheSane | neat. |
08:40.00 | NightHawkTheSane | I'm eagerly awaiting this year's christmas special. >< |
08:40.09 | Nargiddley | yeah |
08:40.25 | Nargiddley | I missed alot of s3, so bought dvds and working my way through |
08:41.22 | NightHawkTheSane | good deal. |
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13:35.12 | testleK | anyone else unable to connect to the auth servers? |
13:35.36 | Kalroth | Seems like a lot of americans got problems atm |
13:36.20 | testleK | ahh thatsa me lol |
13:36.52 | testleK | just makin's sure its not -just- me whom can't login |
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14:23.06 | Mr_Rabies2 | feralas is the absolute most painful place for me to level |
14:23.33 | Taeri | I'm just doing it for leather. :P |
14:24.54 | Taeri | my alt is the only char in my guild with leatherworking atm, so I'm kinda trying to up the skill a bit. |
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14:43.25 | Industrial | -_^ |
14:46.21 | |Jelly| | So we were thinking of the most asinine things to order last night. I was thinking about a 22oz Jack and Coke. |
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14:50.15 | Lunessa | That would be enough liquor to get you cut off in any responsible bar. lol |
14:50.39 | |Jelly| | So...it would be pretty fun, no? |
14:51.09 | zenzelezz | depends on your alcohol tolerance |
14:51.16 | zenzelezz | I tend to like to know how I got home |
14:51.16 | nevcairiel | there are responsible bars? |
14:51.30 | nevcairiel | and i thought we live in the capitalism now :P |
14:51.49 | malreth | Paul Anka sings "Smells like Teen Spirit" -- so wrong on so many levels -- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TsS811o21-k |
14:52.48 | Lunessa | Most bars will cut a patron off pretty fast if they look really drunk, liability for the patron's later actions has been established in many US jurisdictions. But I'd order a 22oz jack & coke too |
14:53.02 | Lunessa | Hell, I'd chucg it. |
14:53.05 | Lunessa | Chug |
14:53.12 | |Jelly| | Chug it, then order another before it kicks in! |
14:53.30 | |Jelly| | Then...well, I don't think you have to worry about what happens after that- you wont remember it anyway. |
14:56.32 | art3mis | nevcairiel: that may be but we're also a society of 0 personal responsibility.. if said drunkard were to leave adn drive around and kill someone he could sucessfully claim the bar was at fault and he'd be off the hook |
14:56.37 | Lunessa | Yeah, but the consequences could be dire. |
14:56.48 | |Jelly| | Lunessa: /shrug |
14:57.09 | Lunessa | I mean, I might have to chew my arm off to escape... |
14:57.09 | |Jelly| | malreth: I don't know who I want to hurt more- you or him |
14:57.15 | nevcairiel | art3mis: i guess in US thats possible *shrug |
14:57.34 | malreth | it's like a virus that infects your brain |
14:57.46 | art3mis | it's true for a few places.. but yeah, its sort of an unspoken liability thingy |
14:58.04 | art3mis | and it's also been used as a defence a few times |
14:58.11 | art3mis | so it's got precedence |
14:58.21 | art3mis | or however it's spelt in that context |
14:59.21 | |Jelly| | Man. I had forgotten how hard Dave Grohl plays. |
14:59.31 | nevcairiel | i mean, if i see someone going out totally drunk and going to his car, i would stop him. but if i only see someone in my bar, without knowing any context, i would still sell him stuff |
15:00.54 | Lunessa | art3mis: In Texas, where Jelly, malreth, and I all live - it's law. A bar owner is legally liable should a patron he served do something after leaving, such as kill others in a drunken driving incident. |
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15:01.17 | malreth | yep |
15:01.17 | art3mis | most bars here will boot you if you puke on premises or puke outside and come back in |
15:02.05 | Lunessa | All bar-tenders, wait-staff and owners have to take a class to recognize the signs and know when to cut someone off. every two years you have to get recertified. |
15:02.07 | malreth | if there's a chain restaurant that has bars, they'll even communicate with each other to keep a particular bar hopping patron from drinking too much |
15:02.08 | art3mis | Lunessa: im not entirely sure it's law here, but there's been a few times in the past years it's been used as a defence so it may very well be |
15:02.10 | |Jelly| | Where I work, we're supposed to alert a manager at three drinks. (Read: This is not a limit. lol) |
15:02.53 | malreth | i don't know if they all do that, but Trudy's here in Austin will |
15:03.18 | Lunessa | mmm... Trudy's. Good place for over-priced drinks. |
15:03.26 | malreth | yom! |
15:04.39 | Lunessa | Hey Mal ... busy on the 27th? |
15:04.59 | malreth | dunno yet... that's in the future |
15:05.19 | Lunessa | Hah. I'll be in Austin that day |
15:05.19 | malreth | anything more than a week is like science fiction to me |
15:06.15 | malreth | okeh... wanna go out and get a hooker? |
15:07.35 | malreth | what? |
15:07.44 | malreth | was it something I said? |
15:08.04 | Lunessa | lol - just beers. |
15:08.24 | malreth | oh. sure. that works too and is likely to be less illegal. |
15:09.05 | Lunessa | Unless we leave drunk. |
15:09.05 | malreth | but i have to be home by 10 so that i can get all the daily quests done before bedtime. |
15:09.17 | Lunessa | Haha! ok. |
15:09.36 | Lunessa | I'll come up early in the day and we can do beers and lunch |
15:09.37 | |Jelly| | ... |
15:09.46 | malreth | i'll call my partner in crime and bring him along |
15:10.06 | malreth | lunch time you say? |
15:10.49 | Lunessa | Something like that. |
15:11.02 | Lunessa | Somewhere between like.. 1 and oh 4. |
15:11.09 | malreth | Dog and Duck pub then... overpriced bangers and mash and fish and chips |
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15:11.45 | malreth | 4 would be perfect... i'd just skip my normal lunch hour and check out early |
15:12.05 | malreth | oh wait.. |
15:12.09 | malreth | durrrrh |
15:12.12 | krka | who is austin? < Lunessa> Hah. I'll be in Austin that day |
15:12.24 | malreth | forgot UT is frikkin closed that week |
15:12.31 | Lunessa | ~lart krka |
15:12.31 | purl | dumps 42 tons of dirt, manure, and fish heads on krka |
15:12.33 | malreth | so whenever during the day |
15:12.40 | art3mis | i need to leech some Bare Naked Ladies |
15:12.42 | krka | mm... fish heads |
15:12.44 | krka | the best part of fish |
15:12.52 | art3mis | ive got "It's been" in my head |
15:12.54 | malreth | roly poly |
15:13.00 | art3mis | laugh mal |
15:13.07 | art3mis | BEST...SONG...EVER |
15:13.09 | malreth | woot... we'll have a wowi austin meetup |
15:13.15 | Lunessa | malreth: woooo |
15:13.27 | krka | a meetup for people called austin? |
15:13.40 | malreth | ~/o I took a fish head out to see a movie... didn't have to pay to GET IT IN o/~ |
15:17.04 | Lunessa | fish heads, fish heads; roly-poly fish heads? |
15:18.14 | malreth | sà |
15:23.46 | Xinhuan | http://home2.pacific.net.sg/~xinhuan/wow/temp.jpg <-- appears that OnTooltipSetItem event gets fired twice on recipes. any suggestions on workaround short of hooking every single GTT:SetBlah() |
15:26.13 | malreth | do want |
15:26.25 | foxlit | meh |
15:26.27 | Xinhuan | i actually have more in my own bank |
15:26.29 | Xinhuan | than the guild bank |
15:26.30 | foxlit | GE is where it's at! |
15:27.09 | foxlit | Yeah, suggestion, sure. |
15:27.14 | Xinhuan | but back to my question, i didn't expect OnTooltipSetItem event to get fired twice on recipes |
15:27.22 | Xinhuan | any suggestions on workaround |
15:27.26 | foxlit | Provide feedback for both the item being made and the recipe itself |
15:27.42 | Lunessa | Haha... I have 28 stacks of [Arcane Dust] and 24 stacks of [Greater Planar Essence] on my enchanter. |
15:27.53 | Xinhuan | the arguments passed to arg1 are identical in both events |
15:28.13 | Xinhuan | i can't tell which event is for the "item" and which event is for the recipe itself |
15:28.15 | Lunessa | Xinhuan: Wasn't this addressed in one of the API changes threads? |
15:28.24 | Xinhuan | not sure? |
15:28.43 | Lunessa | I don't fiddle with tooltips often, I just recall reading something about it. |
15:28.56 | malreth | chalk it up to yet another odd idiosyncrasy of the wow UI perhaps? |
15:29.15 | Xinhuan | i don't see anything in the 2.4 upcoming stuff |
15:29.28 | Lunessa | I would cheat, and look at what Tuller does in SellFish |
15:29.51 | Lunessa | because I'm lazy, and he's already done all that work... |
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15:29.58 | malreth | cheating is noble if it causes you to win |
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15:30.04 | Xinhuan | sellfish probably hooks every single GTT:SetBlah(), all 20 of them |
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15:30.11 | Xinhuan | instead of a single event |
15:30.19 | foxlit | That was weird :/ |
15:30.28 | Xinhuan | in fact, hooking SetBlah() is the only way of telling how many items is in the stack |
15:30.39 | Xinhuan | hence sellfish needs to know that data |
15:30.45 | Xinhuan | to multiply the price |
15:30.48 | Lunessa | Xinhuan: Probably. But if it's fast, who cares? |
15:31.59 | malreth | yep... he hooks everything in sellfish |
15:32.24 | Lunessa | food. |
15:32.36 | malreth | he creates a table of hook functions for every SetFooItem() |
15:33.02 | Xinhuan | thought so, its a fairly standard method until the on tooltipsetitem event came |
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15:35.24 | godzirra | good morning. |
15:35.28 | FoxMcLeod | Hi there |
15:35.53 | godzirra | Wow. This is my new favorite channel.. what service! |
15:36.24 | malreth | the eggs are half developed chicken embryos... eyes and a half formed beak are visible |
15:36.34 | godzirra | But are they tasty? |
15:36.45 | malreth | delicious |
15:36.49 | godzirra | Gret! |
15:36.52 | godzirra | Great! too. |
15:37.50 | godzirra | So I don't know what I'm doing wrong... I still can't get my xp bar to display right. :/ |
15:37.56 | FoxMcLeod | Why does every user wnat the AddOns "Ace'd" ... |
15:38.07 | FoxMcLeod | hmm |
15:38.29 | FoxMcLeod | if you send my your addon I will look into it, got some free time right now |
15:38.31 | godzirra | It displays the xp, but not the rested. |
15:38.34 | godzirra | Sure... one sec. |
15:38.50 | godzirra | dcc, or email? |
15:39.00 | FoxMcLeod | I'd prefer dcc |
15:42.38 | godzirra | Ok, sent via email.. sorry. :/ dcc wasn't working for me. |
15:42.44 | FoxMcLeod | k np |
15:43.26 | FoxMcLeod | seriously you need to rename it ;) |
15:43.32 | godzirra | Yeah, I know. ;) |
15:45.38 | FoxMcLeod | err, yeah, well I wonder how you see anything at all since the folder in the zip-file is empty.. :) |
15:45.48 | godzirra | erk |
15:46.03 | malreth | no wonder your addon doesn't work! |
15:46.05 | malreth | :D |
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15:46.18 | godzirra | THATS what I was doing wrong. |
15:46.41 | malreth | reminds me of a story |
15:47.08 | godzirra | FoxMcLeod: http://test.jomamma.com/wow/ |
15:47.35 | malreth | there was this grad student that literally kept all her important e-mail in the Trash folder in Eudora |
15:50.34 | FoxMcLeod | yeah well... |
15:50.34 | FoxMcLeod | one more thing though |
15:50.37 | FoxMcLeod | all files start with 403 Forbidden - You don't have permission... |
15:50.42 | godzirra | erk. |
15:50.46 | FoxMcLeod | hehe |
15:51.12 | godzirra | Try now. ;) |
15:51.23 | FoxMcLeod | bad karma somehow ;) |
15:51.51 | Lunessa | malreth: /boggle |
15:52.40 | godzirra | Lunessa: I know. I was trying to ignore the statement because it hurts my brain. |
15:53.51 | malreth | she got quite upset when she brought her computer in to be cleaned of spyware and the consultant helpfully decided to clear up some hard drive space |
15:54.04 | godzirra | Heh. |
15:54.05 | Lunessa | Here, we told users we we're going to up the size of their mailboxes on the server - they should save e-mail to their local drives if they wanted to keep large volumes. We discovered that over 2 dozen professors where keeping mail in the "deleted items" folder on the server for future reference. |
15:54.28 | malreth | serious! i don't know what people are thinking! |
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15:55.09 | Valaron|Work | boo |
15:55.16 | Lunessa | The kerfluffle got so bad, the Director had to send a campus-wide e-mail out saying that is was monumentally stupid. |
15:55.23 | malreth | these aren't dump people! they're learned scholars with a better grasp of the english lagnu-- langa-- speaking thing than me... and I KNOW what "DELETED" and "TRASH" means. |
15:55.36 | art3mis | luny: went though the exchange boxes for 7 clients the other day.. appearantly outlook is a desktop and filing system ;P |
15:55.46 | malreth | s/dump/dumb/ |
15:55.50 | art3mis | 23gigs of mail |
15:55.53 | art3mis | for 6 users |
15:56.06 | art3mis | 18 gigs of attachmenst that dont eed to be in there ;P |
15:56.13 | Lunessa | Some people here never ever delete anything, and never use their $4K computers for anything but Outlook. |
15:56.24 | foxlit | Hey |
15:56.30 | art3mis | for the first year of this company before i showed up one guy used to cc himself on EVERYTHING he sent |
15:56.37 | foxlit | Today's "don't need to be there" is tomorrow's "Oh shit where did this thing go?!" |
15:56.45 | godzirra | The happiest day of my life was formatting my new laptop and putting linux on it. |
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15:56.55 | godzirra | Vista is the antichrist. |
15:57.05 | foxlit | (you should have bought a mac) |
15:57.24 | art3mis | FoxMcLeod: if you're confused as to how saveas works........... |
15:57.30 | Lunessa | I had no say in what my employer choses to run as standard. But I'll happily collect my checks for supporting it. |
15:57.34 | godzirra | Except that I can do everything I want on my linux laptop that cost me $600. As opposed to an equivalent mac which would have cost me $2k. |
15:57.37 | Lunessa | brb... going to get more food. |
15:57.37 | malreth | foxlit: not me... i'm sticking with my BeBox. |
15:57.53 | art3mis | godzirra: you should quad boot ;P xpmedia, ubuntu, tiger, leopard ;P |
15:57.54 | FoxMcLeod | err right now your rested bar is commented out |
15:57.59 | art3mis | bebox? |
15:58.02 | art3mis | wasssat |
15:58.06 | malreth | ~wiki BeBox |
15:58.17 | godzirra | FoxMcLeod: Oh... uncomment it, and it shows up overwriting everything. |
15:58.27 | art3mis | neat |
15:58.35 | art3mis | i kind of wanna track down a Sun Shark |
15:58.37 | malreth | i lied... i never owned a BeBox... they're collectors items now |
15:58.49 | godzirra | art3mis: I tried to get leopard running on my laptop with osx86 and had truobles. |
15:58.58 | malreth | but i do own a BeOS t-shirt and my developer number was #9806 |
15:58.58 | art3mis | godzirra: you == suck ;P |
15:59.06 | art3mis | amd or intel? |
15:59.28 | godzirra | laptop is intel... mostly because they gave me a free upgrade when my last laptop died. Had an AMD 3200+, they upgraded to a dual core intel |
15:59.37 | godzirra | desktop and pretty much every other machine in the house is adm. |
15:59.37 | godzirra | amd |
16:00.05 | art3mis | oh, just leech bcgirls installer(havent checked in the last few months since 10.5.1 came out might be other/newer ones) |
16:00.10 | art3mis | for amd |
16:00.16 | godzirra | bcgirls? I'll check it out. |
16:00.23 | art3mis | install tiger from uphucks and then follow prawkers guide |
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16:00.51 | art3mis | make 3 partitions 11g for tiger 8g for installer and the rest for leopard |
16:01.13 | art3mis | the istaller part just saves on dvds ;P |
16:01.15 | godzirra | why would I boot tiger and leopard? |
16:01.31 | art3mis | tiger is needed to partch the orginal disc to support amd boot |
16:01.36 | art3mis | err patch |
16:01.37 | godzirra | although to be honest at this point, I'm pretty happy with compiz fusion on my linux box. |
16:01.57 | malreth | "The Mage is heavily shielded with Ice Block and carries a firepower greater than half the arena team. It's defenses are designed around a direct, large-scale assault." lulz |
16:02.18 | art3mis | yeah but its soooo much funnier to take yer laptop pc running osx to geek squad or firedog techs and ask them what happened to windows ;) |
16:02.30 | art3mis | "i upgrade quicktime and itunes and my os is gone" |
16:02.42 | godzirra | lmao |
16:03.11 | godzirra | That reminds me... |
16:03.18 | godzirra | I need to dump a glass of water on my desktop after backing everything up. |
16:03.20 | art3mis | prawker actually did that btw |
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16:03.39 | art3mis | and called apple tech support |
16:03.43 | godzirra | lol |
16:03.51 | godzirra | FoxMcLeod: so do you see what I'm seeing? |
16:03.57 | art3mis | "what kind of macbook is it" "it's a compaq laptop" |
16:04.03 | art3mis | *long silence* |
16:04.11 | FoxMcLeod | yapp, just a sec gonna try something |
16:04.19 | FoxMcLeod | (its alle purple, the XPBar) |
16:04.38 | godzirra | FoxMcLeod: right. It shouldnt be. |
16:04.48 | godzirra | FoxMcLeod: the xp bar is yellow (I think, cant remember) the rested bar is purple |
16:04.53 | godzirra | the rested bar should be under the xp bar. |
16:05.52 | foxlit | Oh wow |
16:06.16 | foxlit | So I got a reply to my "please stop serving outdated versions of my addon" email |
16:06.27 | foxlit | bla bla bla, "can't be arsed", bla bla bla. |
16:06.39 | foxlit | (liberal use of quotes there) |
16:06.55 | malreth | damn liberals... |
16:06.58 | cogwheel | They need to make a new type of quotes |
16:07.04 | cogwheel | paraquotes |
16:07.11 | art3mis | foxlit: from who? |
16:07.15 | godzirra | Not to be confused with parakeets. |
16:07.23 | foxlit | http://worldofwarcraft.filefront.com/ |
16:07.25 | malreth | or paraquats |
16:07.31 | cogwheel | ~seen cowgra |
16:08.51 | purl | cowgra <n=Cowgra@c-69-242-237-189.hsd1.ar.comcast.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowi-lounge, 22d 18h 3m 19s ago, saying: 'i've been trying to figure out the same thing bleeter'. |
16:08.52 | godzirra | !c US Lothar Zepia |
16:08.52 | godzirra | Yeah... it still just hates me. |
16:08.52 | ThraeBot | godzirra: Zepia, Level 70 Draenei Shaman (43/5/13). 8409 HP; 8860 Mana; 175 mana regen; 51 mp5; 8843 Armour; 4.11% melee crit; 334 spell crit; 26 spell hit; 773 +spell dmg/heal; 4.11% dodge; 5.00% block; 10 shadow resist (+10);[[ TBR: 910 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/2chl2n ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/2n4pl2 ][ Updated: Wed Dec 19 11:10:37 2007 EST ]] |
16:08.52 | art3mis | just tell them that you're the author and you would request they remove the addons from filefront ;P |
16:08.52 | godzirra | Oh yay. |
16:08.52 | art3mis | or just get a bunch of people to tag it as illegal ;P |
16:08.52 | art3mis | and make them waste resources checking ;P |
16:08.52 | foxlit | I did |
16:08.52 | foxlit | The response was "You do know that file was uploaded back in year 2006? That was the time I wasn't in control of World of Warcraft Files or the staff , and I will not go through the logs in 2006 just to remove the file, don't think people are so stupid they will download a file which haven't been updated since that one. Please CHECK the date added before E-Mailing me the next time, because checking stuff like that wastes my time, |
16:08.52 | godzirra | Wow. Sounds like an ass. |
16:08.57 | foxlit | "Regards, |
16:08.57 | foxlit | Thundgot - World of Warcraft Files Site Manager" |
16:10.10 | art3mis | "dear thundergot: as the new manager it is your job to make sure that things are running as they are, *I* am the author and YOU are not authorized to host this file, s such I request that it is removed. Perhaps you should check your law books or common sense to understand what im requesting here as you're obviously breaking the law" ;) |
16:10.18 | art3mis | whats the addon |
16:10.39 | foxlit | Nothing too famous :) |
16:10.49 | art3mis | im gonna go report it as illegal ;P |
16:11.11 | foxlit | http://worldofwarcraft.filefront.com/file/RABuffs_v0102;69052 , have fun |
16:11.12 | godzirra | whats the url? i'll do it too. |
16:12.03 | Mr_Rabies2 | don't think people are so stupid they will download a file which haven't been updated since that one |
16:12.10 | Mr_Rabies2 | this guy is either lazy or overestimates people |
16:12.22 | foxlit | I'm betting on lazy and incompetent |
16:12.29 | Mr_Rabies2 | also, filefront's side-sites are really bad still |
16:12.35 | Mr_Rabies2 | it's mainpage is nice as hell |
16:12.44 | Mr_Rabies2 | but the subdomain ones are terrible |
16:15.16 | Dreagar | !c us skywall dreagar |
16:15.22 | malreth | is my wow addiction so bad that i've started to make to-do lists in rememberthemilk.com for in-game activities |
16:15.22 | art3mis | laugh there isnt an illegal or report file button |
16:15.40 | godzirra | art3mis: ok, glad it wasnt just me. |
16:15.43 | godzirra | I cuoldnt find one. |
16:15.44 | malreth | i've got due dates for certain reputation milestones... |
16:16.24 | malreth | and i've prioritized things like Tempest Keep above other tasks like "feed the dog" |
16:16.33 | art3mis | tell him that you want it removed as its author or youll have to report him to the admins for knowingly allowing files that are illegal ;P |
16:16.39 | art3mis | raise a huge stink about it |
16:16.50 | art3mis | and constantly post his repsponse ;P |
16:16.55 | art3mis | i would just to be a dick |
16:17.01 | godzirra | Yeah me too. |
16:17.31 | godzirra | My god I love my linux box. I just run wow from my windows partition and it just works. |
16:17.32 | Dreagar | seems fine to me Maltreth |
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16:23.41 | sag_ich_nicht | LF1M to fix CooldownTimers2 Ace2 options table PST |
16:23.55 | zenzelezz | soloable |
16:24.06 | sag_ich_nicht | level not high enough |
16:24.17 | zenzelezz | then you don't need the quest anyway |
16:24.31 | sag_ich_nicht | yes i do, quest reward is awesome |
16:24.43 | sag_ich_nicht | and i can use it already :( |
16:25.00 | haste | go level! |
16:25.20 | sag_ich_nicht | no, this is a twink |
16:26.05 | malreth | use hourglass instead |
16:26.26 | foxlit | Just Kite and dps! |
16:26.30 | foxlit | Kite and dps! |
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16:28.00 | Wobin_ | er |
16:28.07 | Wobin_ | There's no keylogger issue on wowi, is there? |
16:28.37 | malreth | not recently, no... why? |
16:29.19 | Wobin_ | Someone mentioned it. |
16:29.20 | malreth | and even with that issue, it was handled quickly. it's all explained on the news page. |
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16:36.46 | Lunessa | haha... malreth I just saw that .sig you were on about earlier. pretty funny. |
16:49.25 | art3mis | wobin: just a ui.exe that was uploaded |
16:49.33 | art3mis | same thingy as the ui one |
16:49.40 | art3mis | cairenn took care of that right away |
16:53.11 | art3mis | hahaha |
16:53.26 | art3mis | my wife started playing phantasystart online on the 360 |
16:53.41 | art3mis | and appearantly the chat and video server embedded into it is a hotbed for porn ;P |
16:53.45 | art3mis | and cam shows |
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16:53.59 | FoxMcLeod | lol |
16:54.11 | malreth | i likes cam shows |
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16:55.23 | somma86 | hi, can someone please help me? i'd like to have a command for an addon which checks if a player on my realm is online or not |
16:55.40 | FoxMcLeod | I need some opinions here, I would like to make a GUI for configuring my AddOn, it's not "Ace'd" but I like Waterfall, would it be clever to embedd it? |
16:56.04 | art3mis | sure! |
16:56.05 | malreth | somma86: soo... like a /who? |
16:56.33 | art3mis | heh he means automagically ;P |
16:56.35 | godzirra | Whats Waterfall? |
16:56.45 | art3mis | like that /who person_who_invited_you thing |
16:56.50 | art3mis | on party invites |
16:57.09 | godzirra | I like that thing that just ignores party invites. |
16:57.18 | FoxMcLeod | hmm waterfall is a predesign gui for configuring Ace2-AddOns like pitbull |
16:57.25 | godzirra | Ahh cool. |
16:57.31 | dylanm | Don't do it don't do it ugly ugly ugly |
16:57.36 | FoxMcLeod | if you type /pitbull you get it |
16:57.42 | FoxMcLeod | ok :) |
16:57.43 | godzirra | Where -are- the pitbull textures? |
16:57.53 | dylanm | Is SharedMedia. |
16:57.59 | dylanm | s/Is/In/ |
16:59.01 | godzirra | I don't seem to have a SharedMedia folder. |
16:59.09 | godzirra | Just LibSharedMedia-2.0 |
16:59.09 | FoxMcLeod | Interface\AddOns\PitBull\Layouts |
16:59.20 | dylanm | Does it have built-in ones now? I've no clue. |
16:59.24 | FoxMcLeod | arg wait |
16:59.29 | godzirra | I have no textures in Layouts. :/ |
16:59.45 | somma86 | yes like a /who |
16:59.59 | dylanm | PitBull/media |
17:00.09 | dylanm | Appears to have Cilo at least. |
17:00.24 | godzirra | Hm. |
17:00.26 | somma86 | it should test if a player is online and if this is the case the addon has to send a textmessage |
17:00.40 | FoxMcLeod | ah I got some textures off quartz |
17:03.36 | godzirra | Cilo is much better looking than UI-StatusBar |
17:03.43 | FoxMcLeod | yeah |
17:03.43 | malreth | somma86: not trivial but it's doable |
17:03.49 | malreth | somma86: http://www.wowwiki.com/API_SetWhoToUI |
17:03.52 | FoxMcLeod | but I like Frost the best, atleast for mana |
17:04.04 | malreth | somma86: and http://www.wowwiki.com/API_SendWho |
17:04.45 | malreth | somma86: basically, you send a who query and catch the event (CHAT_MSG_SYSTEM) |
17:05.46 | godzirra | Hmm... how do I change the borders of the frame? |
17:06.09 | Beladona | does it have a backdrop? |
17:06.32 | art3mis | http://www.nbc.com/American_Gladiators/photos/#cat=630&sec=1468&mea=35872 |
17:06.37 | art3mis | hey look new gladiators |
17:06.41 | art3mis | how awesome! |
17:06.47 | godzirra | I don't think so. It was originally setup using the new Addon Studio thingie. |
17:06.57 | malreth | somma86: alternatively, you can use the friends list as well... add the person as a friend, see if he shows up in the list as logged in, and take appropriate action |
17:07.21 | godzirra | And I didnt specify a backdrop, so probably not. |
17:07.37 | malreth | art3mis: that smacks of writers strike desperation |
17:08.53 | Beladona | there are different ways to change the border depending on how the borders were created. Backdrops are preferred because they can expand with the frame, and are easy to change with default api. But it could be a static image as a background. |
17:08.58 | Beladona | need to find that out first |
17:09.25 | FoxMcLeod | it does have |
17:09.29 | Beladona | this is why I don't like "AddOn Studio" type programs. It promotes ignorance of the original code |
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17:10.19 | godzirra | Beladona: True, but I've already dropped AddonStudio. Its just gotten me interested enough to actually really start looking into it. |
17:10.33 | FoxMcLeod | godzirra: try http://www.wowwiki.com/API_Frame_SetBackdrop |
17:11.17 | FoxMcLeod | i like the way it colors my code, put it usually screws up my XML :/ |
17:12.22 | godzirra | Hmm. |
17:12.43 | FoxMcLeod | or just set the alpha to 0 to get rid of it :) |
17:13.19 | Beladona | I didn't like how it didn't color api |
17:13.26 | godzirra | Set the alpha of what to 0? |
17:13.27 | Beladona | so I went back to my custom notepad++ |
17:13.32 | FoxMcLeod | hmm |
17:13.50 | FoxMcLeod | or there any other good and comfortable lua-editors |
17:14.01 | Beladona | Notepad++ is my favorite |
17:14.13 | Beladona | has lua built in |
17:14.23 | Beladona | I customized it though to add the global and widget api |
17:14.30 | FoxMcLeod | also intelliSense for WoW Apis? |
17:14.35 | FoxMcLeod | ah cool |
17:14.36 | Beladona | yes |
17:14.40 | Beladona | well |
17:15.06 | Beladona | doesn't have auto-completion, but it has keyword links (same as intellisense) and you can customize where it points to |
17:15.56 | Beladona | 1 sec, gonna take a screenshot of an active lua file |
17:16.12 | godzirra | I use vim :) |
17:16.13 | FoxMcLeod | well i heard about B:lue but apparently it was discontinued in 2005 |
17:16.26 | FoxMcLeod | B:lua even |
17:16.30 | godzirra | It doesnt do autocomplete which i never use anyways, but it does do syntax highlighting. |
17:16.48 | godzirra | anyways, I'm going to run and grab food for my kidlet. |
17:16.56 | godzirra | Be back soon. |
17:16.59 | godzirra | FoxMcLeod: thanks for all your help :) |
17:17.03 | FoxMcLeod | NP |
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17:18.18 | Beladona | http://wdnaddons.com/files/images/np46wow.jpg |
17:18.38 | Beladona | syntax colors are customizable, thats just the colors I preferred |
17:19.41 | FoxMcLeod | hmm k looks nice |
17:20.05 | Beladona | if you decide to try it let me know. I can send you my customized lang file with the lua api |
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17:22.24 | FoxMcLeod | I'll check some different Editors, like B:Lua, SciTe or luaedit |
17:23.21 | Maldivia | Beladona: let me guess, you've worked with Pascal ? |
17:24.09 | art3mis | bela invented pascal! |
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17:25.05 | Beladona | lol no |
17:25.27 | Maldivia | hmm... the green strings could have fooled me :) |
17:25.36 | Beladona | I have worked with pascal |
17:25.44 | Beladona | I was more referring to art3mis |
17:25.45 | Beladona | hehe |
17:25.49 | Maldivia | ahh, ok :) |
17:25.58 | Maldivia | so the green strings are from Borland's pascal editors? |
17:26.04 | Beladona | yeah |
17:26.20 | Beladona | default Notepad++ colors comments green and strings orange I believe |
17:26.28 | Maldivia | hehe, that's where I have my green strings from aswell... and my co-workers hate me for it, they have comments as green |
17:26.43 | Beladona | I like my comments light gray |
17:26.46 | Beladona | almost invisible |
17:26.52 | Beladona | but still there when looking for them |
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17:27.17 | Maldivia | have comments as grey aswell, but doubt as light as yours :) |
17:28.04 | Fin | can you use Powerful Anti-Venom bandages in Arenas? |
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17:35.26 | deltron | Fin: never tried |
17:35.29 | deltron | anyone use a dkp tracking page? is eqdkp still the one to use? |
17:37.00 | Fin | k, thanks deltron |
17:37.01 | sag_ich_nicht | dkp is evil, if you have to use one, use EPGP, which means you don't need a DKP tracking page, no hush hush, go away |
17:37.08 | Fin | noone seems to know for sure whether it works or not |
17:37.18 | sag_ich_nicht | s/no/now/ |
17:37.24 | Lopeppeppy | So far as I hear, deltron, but we keep our own for our raid group, the techno-babble was too much for us to want to bother with. |
17:37.32 | Fin | I just tested it, and both Powerful Anti-Venom and Potion of Curing remove level 70 rogue poisons |
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17:37.54 | Fin | the potion wouldn't work in an arena, but the powerful anti-venom is first aid |
17:38.11 | sag_ich_nicht | hmmmm... interesting fin. |
17:38.19 | Fin | oh well, guess I'll find out when my mate gets back to me |
17:38.25 | Fin | I don't actually do much arena myself |
17:38.34 | sag_ich_nicht | i think i should farm that stuff right now because it's going to become worth a lot more in the near future |
17:38.47 | Fin | it may not work |
17:38.57 | Fin | most people I asked said it didn't, then when pressed admitted they didn't know for sure |
17:39.00 | Beladona | I second the use of epgp. Best dkp I have experienced, and can be tracked completely in-game |
17:39.09 | Beladona | using an addon |
17:39.12 | Fin | also it doesn't share the same cooldown as standard bandages |
17:39.28 | deltron | yeah I like epgp also |
17:39.34 | deltron | I'm not in the guild anymore though :P |
17:39.49 | Fin | the pattern, recipe, whatever requires honored with Argent Dawn, but anyone can use one I've made as long as they've got 300 First Aid |
17:39.49 | Beladona | its as close to being fair as I think any dkp can get |
17:40.51 | Fin | sag_ich_nicht: if you try it out, let me know if you actually can use them in arenas, please? |
17:41.25 | Fin | or if you can't |
17:42.21 | sag_ich_nicht | IF i try it out. |
17:42.44 | somma86 | does anyone have an idea how to check if someone on my realm is online? i need it for an addon. there i will have the check in and if the player is not online the addon shoudnt sent the player an wisper |
17:43.19 | Fin | just send it anyway |
17:43.26 | Fin | and handle the error |
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17:43.55 | Fin | there's going to be a check regardless once you send the whisper, might as well use its results |
17:45.08 | FoxMcLeod | I like the idea of decaying EP/GP |
17:45.38 | FoxMcLeod | with that we don't need different DKP systems for a new dungeon |
17:47.17 | Lopeppeppy | FoxMcLeod... think ahead about inflation, and periodic adjustments (although I think the decay would help with that). |
17:47.53 | Lopeppeppy | Our group will likely be wiping DKP and starting fresh very soon, inflation over 3 years has just gotten wild. |
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17:48.28 | nevcairiel | mm EPGP looks great, gonna have to remember that for the next expansion when we revamp the dkp again |
17:48.40 | FoxMcLeod | Yeah ok, at the moment the biggest problem is that in our guild people have a lot DKP left from Karazhan and SSC, so when we started BT we had to make a new DKP Systems or the new poeple won't have a chance of ever getting decent drops :) |
17:48.49 | kergoth | http://indexed.blogspot.com/2007/12/so-once-youre-all-leveled-up-than-what.html |
17:50.03 | Lopeppeppy | Exactly, Fox. That's when we're going to do it, start fresh with BT. |
17:51.36 | sag_ich_nicht | go and spread EPGP then :P |
17:51.55 | sag_ich_nicht | i hate dkp in general, but if you have to use one, either use rDKP or EPGP |
17:52.21 | sag_ich_nicht | because both are more reliable than the rest, EPGP more so than rDKP, but EPGP is more complex |
17:52.31 | zenzelezz | I actually preferred my old guild's system; separate DKP for each raid instance, fixed-price bids |
17:53.35 | Lopeppeppy | We really *should* have gone with separate by instance, but that's soooo much work we couldn't embrace it. |
17:53.58 | zenzelezz | if you don't do it from the start, it is tough |
17:55.53 | Lopeppeppy | Yeah... so we are going next-best and giving it a wipe. We should have wiped to zero coming into TBC, but we were not progressive-thinking enough. |
17:56.30 | art3mis | i like the "link me whatcha got" and the person who benefits most gets it" |
17:56.31 | zenzelezz | most people are progressive-thinking in retrospect |
17:56.35 | Lunessa | Work, the primary failing of most DKP systems |
17:56.42 | art3mis | thats my prefered looting system ;) |
17:57.03 | Fin | progressive is the new retro! |
17:57.10 | art3mis | with the obvious catchall of GM, officer, raider havign precedent over newbies |
17:57.11 | Beladona | MY GUILD DECAYS EP AND GP EVERY RAID |
17:57.16 | Beladona | oops sorry caps |
17:57.31 | Lopeppeppy | Our class officers sorta do that, art3mis, we keep tabs on which member needs an upgrade the most, and do some jockeying amongst our class to see that they get it. |
17:57.39 | Lunessa | http://www.theroundtableguild.com/CodeofConduct/tabid/2038/Default.aspx -- our "looting policies" are at the bottom of the page. |
17:57.52 | Beladona | recruits earn half ep until they become members |
17:58.00 | Lunessa | They mostly boil down to "don't be a jerk" |
17:58.42 | Lopeppeppy | Yeah... "don't be a jerk" works for some groups, but sadly not for others. |
17:59.21 | Beladona | regardless, when you grow to the point where you could potentially consider running two 25 mans, relying on everyone to "not be a jerk" is a dangerous prospect |
17:59.28 | Lunessa | Agreed, but if those rules don't work for the person in question, they won't be a good fit for us. :) |
18:00.09 | Lunessa | Actually, our system has worked really well for us. People who want to be jerks about loot show up quickly and are gone just as fast. :D |
18:00.26 | Lopeppeppy | It's one of the ways we use to find out if people are a good fit for our group, actually. Loot whores need not apply. |
18:00.31 | art3mis | Lopeppeppy: yeah i find it's the best way.. it does lead to biased cheating though so it's really a case of trusting the gm/rl |
18:00.56 | Lopeppeppy | When my class members don't trust me to lead them, I need to step down and give them someone they trust. *nod* |
18:01.56 | Beladona | my guild is extremely generous about dkp |
18:02.05 | Beladona | no one has any excuse to complain about it |
18:02.10 | Beladona | unless they just aren't trying |
18:02.40 | Beladona | like, if you have to sit out on a boss, and we kill that boss, you get full ep as if you were there, as long as you are sitting outside the instance |
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18:04.38 | Lopeppeppy | As in, they were there for the rest of the raid but got subbed out for that one boss? Makes sense they would share the DKP for getting you to the boss. *nod* |
18:04.50 | Beladona | and we have a veteran rank that you have to earn by attending 75% of the raids in a month. Veterans get access to a bank tab with consumables for raids, and priority on raid invites |
18:04.54 | Lopeppeppy | We give a small award to our alts who wait as fill ins, as well. |
18:05.11 | Thunder_Child | "Over the holidays, on December 25th and January 1st, we will be performing a series of rolling restarts for all realms starting at 5:00 AM PDT, in lieu of weekly maintenance. Each realm is anticipated to be down for no more than 15 minutes, and should additional maintenance be necessary, we will notify our players in advance. Have a happy holiday!" E.G. no one is around so we have the egg timer set for restarts |
18:05.13 | Beladona | although the requirements might change, because we now have over 30 people who earned Veteran (which is good AND bad) |
18:05.34 | Beladona | our alts don't earn separate points |
18:05.39 | Beladona | we shar ewith the main |
18:05.59 | Lopeppeppy | I meant alt to be "those who are not in the raid, but stand around to fill in". We call those alts. |
18:06.09 | Beladona | oh |
18:06.27 | Lopeppeppy | We also share points from main to alternate characters, the way that you were saying. |
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18:07.15 | Beladona | ~seen Cairenn |
18:07.18 | purl | cairenn <n=Cairenn@MMOI/Administratrix/Cairenn> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowi-lounge, 19h 56m 23s ago, saying: ':)'. |
18:07.39 | sag_ich_nicht | is there some addon to show me which tradeskill items i can't craft yet but could with my skill if i had the plans for it? |
18:08.03 | Beladona | Recipe Radar |
18:08.06 | Fin | MobMap would do that |
18:08.24 | Fin | I'm almost completely certain you won't find that an acceptable solution, though |
18:09.06 | sag_ich_nicht | noes |
18:09.13 | sag_ich_nicht | it is not in WAU, i must update manually |
18:09.14 | sag_ich_nicht | noes! |
18:09.36 | Fin | LinksList, or one of its modules, looked like it would do what you wanted from what I saw of it... dunno for sure tho |
18:10.17 | Dreagar | can't be too hard to make somethin like that. |
18:10.42 | sag_ich_nicht | someone fix the bug on wowi that causes specialists to be censored |
18:10.47 | Dreagar | just make a dropdown off fubar or somethin, that shows all the items for each tradeskil u have. |
18:10.47 | Fin | there is one that I can't remember the name of right now... if you were on an alt and saw a recipe that another character could use, it would say somthing like "Needed by: Main, Alt2" etc. or "Can use:", or something like that |
18:10.52 | Fin | CraftList2? |
18:10.52 | Fin | CraftBot? |
18:11.01 | Fin | ProfessionSomething? |
18:11.02 | sag_ich_nicht | thanks Beladona |
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18:11.24 | Fin | dammit |
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18:12.18 | Shirik | Anyone familiar with the USPS tracking system can give me information about what this means? |
18:12.24 | Shirik | Status: Arrival at Unit |
18:12.29 | Shirik | Your item arrived at 6:24 AM on December 19, 2007 in CLIFTON, VA 20124. Information, if available, is updated every evening. Please check again later. |
18:12.29 | Lunessa | ProfessionsBook |
18:12.41 | Fin | ah! that's the one I think, thanks! |
18:12.50 | Dreagar | that means that it arrived at the distribution point in Clifton shirik |
18:12.51 | malreth | Shirik: that's what my fiancee says when she's being extra geeky in bed |
18:12.53 | Fin | 5 points! |
18:12.56 | sag_ich_nicht | it means it's at a packing station or routing station in clifton |
18:13.02 | Shirik | thanks Dreagar / sag_ich_nicht |
18:13.23 | Dreagar | at least there's SOMETHIn i can help with in here |
18:13.24 | Dreagar | lol |
18:13.29 | Shirik | >< |
18:13.36 | Shirik | it better get here today |
18:13.40 | Shirik | I'm annoyed at how long it's taking :/ |
18:13.52 | malreth | Shirik: i say the same thing too in bed! |
18:13.56 | Shirik | ... |
18:14.06 | Dreagar | tmi? |
18:14.14 | Dreagar | heh |
18:15.01 | Lunessa | I'm totally unmotivated to be productive at work. |
18:15.22 | Shirik | good |
18:15.26 | Shirik | you're like the rest of the world |
18:15.30 | Lopeppeppy | malreth, you're just on a roll today. Browse more porn. |
18:15.39 | kamdis | ugh, meetings. worst idea the industrialized world ever came up with. |
18:15.47 | Shirik | I like meetings |
18:15.51 | malreth | purl, meetings |
18:16.06 | malreth | purl, meetings are the practical alternative to work |
18:16.07 | purl | malreth: okay |
18:16.13 | malreth | ~botsnack |
18:16.13 | purl | malreth: :) |
18:16.21 | Thunder_Child | $5 says malreth's fiancee kills him less than a year after getting married |
18:16.39 | Dreagar | i give it 6 months |
18:16.48 | Dreagar | :D |
18:16.57 | malreth | would it help to know we've been together for 7 years? |
18:17.10 | Thunder_Child | but your not married so she wouldnt get anything |
18:17.10 | Dreagar | wow, she's resilient! |
18:17.24 | malreth | Thunder_Child: oh snap! you're right! |
18:18.01 | malreth | well, we live in texas so the argument could be made that we've been common-law married all this time |
18:18.05 | Shirik | Dreagar: malreth just doesn't have enough +crit |
18:18.32 | Shirik | lol @ the pac man wheels, I want these: http://ladyada.net/make/spokepov/index.html |
18:18.34 | Dreagar | there's outfits for that |
18:19.12 | Dreagar | that's awesome shirik. i want one too |
18:19.35 | Shirik | I'm just looking at some sample projects for these microcontrollers that I'm still waiting to come in :/ |
18:19.44 | Shirik | that's tempting enough to get me to buy another two just for that |
18:20.12 | godzirra | Shirik: those are awesome. |
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18:21.06 | Shirik | "Great for safe riding at night, provides excellite side visibility" |
18:21.07 | Shirik | Yeah um |
18:21.17 | Shirik | I think if I saw that my car would probably crash into you as I'm distracted |
18:21.26 | godzirra | lol |
18:21.45 | godzirra | So I'm still trying to figure out how to put a border around my addon.... |
18:22.12 | Shirik | create a frame |
18:22.20 | godzirra | I've got a frame. |
18:22.26 | Shirik | oh |
18:22.27 | godzirra | Thats what everythings laid out on now |
18:24.36 | FoxMcLeod | you could use the backdrop functions or create a new texture as background |
18:25.00 | godzirra | I want to avoid creating a new texture if possible, since I won't be using anything except a line around the background. |
18:25.07 | godzirra | I'll try and find the backdrop functions |
18:25.30 | godzirra | wait.. doesnt the backdrop require a texture as well? |
18:25.30 | Shirik | eh, you don't want that |
18:25.40 | godzirra | Shirik: ok. I don't want that. how come? |
18:25.54 | Shirik | because that's the wrong way to do it :P |
18:26.01 | godzirra | Oh. Good reason. Whats the right way to do it then? |
18:26.16 | Shirik | trying to remember |
18:26.18 | godzirra | heh |
18:26.24 | godzirra | You've forgotten more than I know. |
18:26.41 | Shirik | I don't do GUI much :P |
18:26.44 | Shirik | I let Cidan do this |
18:26.50 | Shirik | I do the internal stuff |
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18:29.02 | Thunder_Child | sleep helps much |
18:29.29 | NightHawkTheSane | "Interface\\Tooltips\\UI-Tooltip-Border" ? |
18:29.47 | Shirik | I meant the Conspiracy one |
18:30.00 | Shirik | so I could grep for it |
18:30.19 | foxlit | godzirra: I want to avoid creating a new texture if possible, since I won't be using anything except a line around the background. |
18:30.24 | FoxMcLeod | please elaborate |
18:30.28 | foxlit | The penalty for doing that is insignificant |
18:30.49 | godzirra | ok... |
18:30.58 | foxlit | The problem is more that you'll need more than one to create an actual border |
18:31.10 | godzirra | ell, I went with this: bgFile = "Interface/Tooltips/UI-Tooltip-Background", edgeFile = "Interface/Tooltips/UI-Tooltip-Border", |
18:31.14 | godzirra | to begin with. |
18:31.16 | godzirra | but its grey. |
18:31.16 | Shirik | ah, I'm sorry, it /is/ SetBackdrop() |
18:31.23 | Shirik | yeah that's what you should do |
18:31.26 | foxlit | But you do actually want a backdrop |
18:31.31 | godzirra | ok. |
18:31.36 | FoxMcLeod | See... |
18:31.37 | foxlit | It's easier to manage and so on |
18:31.42 | godzirra | Sure, makes sense. |
18:31.45 | Shirik | bgFile="Interface/DialogFrame/UI-DialogBox-Background", tile = true, tileSize = 16, |
18:31.46 | Shirik | edgeFile="Interface/Tooltips/UI-Tooltip-Border", edgeSize = 16, |
18:31.46 | Shirik | insets = { left = 3, right = 3, top = 2, bottom = 2 } |
18:31.47 | foxlit | I believe there's also SetBackdropColor |
18:31.51 | godzirra | Ah, thank you. |
18:32.04 | Shirik | and yes, there is SetBackdropColor() too |
18:32.22 | Beladona | beware |
18:32.23 | foxlit | (you won't be able to control the transparency - that's hardcoded into the texture) |
18:32.30 | foxlit | Which is more or less the only complaint against backdrops |
18:33.04 | FoxMcLeod | hmm I made my backdrop invisible by setting it's alpha to 0 |
18:33.05 | godzirra | foxlit: there is. Though its telling me I'm doing something wrong. |
18:33.21 | Beladona | SetBackdropColor only works on certain textures. Many backdrops in wow are black with a 1.0 alpha, which means changing to any color will always result in black |
18:33.47 | Shirik | soooo |
18:33.52 | foxlit | I only really worked with tooltip/chatframe backdrops, you can easily vertex those |
18:33.58 | Shirik | I'm going to assume this line Cidan put in is worthless: w:SetBackdropColor(0,0,0,1); |
18:33.59 | godzirra | Beladona: thats my problem, is I want it to be black, and its not. ;) Its grey. |
18:34.01 | foxlit | But they have their own alpha channel which you can't control |
18:34.25 | foxlit | http://www.wowwiki.com/API_Frame_SetBackdrop |
18:34.29 | foxlit | Run the example code |
18:34.37 | Beladona | if its gray, then try what Shirik just put |
18:34.40 | godzirra | oh. |
18:34.41 | godzirra | woops. |
18:34.45 | godzirra | I did... But I had SetBackDrop |
18:34.55 | Shirik | do you not have Lua errors turned on? |
18:35.13 | godzirra | No, it threw an error... I was trying to figure out what it was when you pasted that. |
18:35.18 | Shirik | heh |
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18:35.37 | Beladona | I have done a lot of playing with backdrops |
18:35.39 | Beladona | http://wdnaddons.com/files/development/backdrop/ |
18:35.50 | FoxMcLeod | Does anyone here now Rayman Raving RAbbits? |
18:35.54 | godzirra | Hmmm... I tried to move my text over the status bar, but the status bar hides it. |
18:36.07 | godzirra | foxlit: I just returned it to blockbuster. |
18:36.08 | Beladona | what layer is the text in? |
18:36.10 | godzirra | err. |
18:36.14 | godzirra | that was to FoxMcLeod |
18:36.19 | FoxMcLeod | so set the Layerlvl of the FontStrin to 4 |
18:36.22 | godzirra | Beladona: probably the default one. |
18:37.23 | Beladona | why would you set the frame level when you can just as easily adjust your code so that text is above the status bar |
18:37.42 | FoxMcLeod | I'd like to think the reaction of one of the experienced coders is comparable to the usual behaviour of those rabbits |
18:37.44 | godzirra | How? |
18:37.50 | FoxMcLeod | +to my code |
18:38.03 | Beladona | I put my text as a layer IN the status bar |
18:38.04 | Beladona | for one |
18:38.12 | godzirra | Oh. how do you do that? |
18:38.12 | sag_ich_nicht | [19:35] <FoxMcLeod> Does anyone here now Rayman Raving RAbbits? <--it's KNOW, god damn it |
18:38.15 | Beladona | if it is to be on it, but above it |
18:38.20 | Beladona | hang on |
18:38.24 | FoxMcLeod | Im sorry |
18:38.26 | Beladona | are you doing this all in lua? |
18:38.28 | godzirra | Thats exactly what I want it. |
18:38.29 | Beladona | or xml? |
18:38.29 | godzirra | Yes. |
18:38.35 | FoxMcLeod | typos and stuff ^^^ |
18:38.39 | godzirra | Lua. My XML is just for layout. |
18:38.44 | godzirra | mostly because I understand the lua better than the xml ;) |
18:38.57 | Shirik | why is earthshock rank 1 so useful against healers? |
18:38.58 | Beladona | how are you creating your fontstring? |
18:39.08 | godzirra | Shirik: because it still interrupts them =p |
18:39.11 | godzirra | for 30 mana. |
18:39.14 | Shirik | so just because of the mana? |
18:39.16 | godzirra | Yeah. |
18:39.23 | Beladona | Shirik: yes |
18:39.25 | godzirra | No damage, but a 30 mana every 5-6 seconds interrupt. |
18:39.29 | Beladona | same as when we use it on bosses |
18:39.31 | godzirra | well, almost no damage. |
18:39.46 | godzirra | Beladona: I create the fontstring in the XML, then I set it in the lua. |
18:39.54 | Shirik | rank 1 should be more resistable imo |
18:39.55 | FoxMcLeod | On bosses it'S also nice because the generated threat is rather low |
18:40.03 | godzirra | Yeah, its almost non existent. |
18:40.08 | godzirra | Shirik: probably. |
18:40.14 | Beladona | can you pastey something? its hard to infer what you are doing without seeing |
18:40.21 | godzirra | Yes, one second. |
18:40.27 | Shirik | It's hard to infer when you do see too |
18:40.31 | Shirik | because you're not inferring anymore :) |
18:40.36 | Beladona | haha |
18:40.44 | Beladona | ~lart Shirik |
18:40.44 | purl | duct-tapes Shirik to the floor and drools on him |
18:41.15 | godzirra | Beladona: http://test.jomamma.com/wow/ |
18:41.29 | godzirra | It walks through walls. |
18:41.39 | art3mis | prove it ;P |
18:41.48 | godzirra | Prove it doesnt. |
18:41.55 | godzirra | }:) |
18:41.58 | Fin | godzirra: are you using that addon studio thingamy? |
18:42.05 | godzirra | Fin: I started with that, and then stopped. |
18:42.11 | Fin | no good? |
18:42.18 | godzirra | Eh, mostly I do most of my stuff in linux. |
18:42.20 | godzirra | More than anything else. |
18:42.34 | godzirra | I dislike how difficulti t is to adjust the location of something graphically though. |
18:42.40 | godzirra | its like 5 clicks to adjust the location of an object. |
18:42.45 | Beladona | ok, think of a StatusBar as another Frame |
18:42.46 | godzirra | But it doesnt seem horrible. |
18:42.49 | Beladona | for starters |
18:43.17 | Beladona | take your fontstrings and put them in each appropriate status bar |
18:43.23 | Beladona | at the level you need them |
18:43.24 | Shirik | ok heading off to Radio Shack |
18:43.31 | Shirik | Beladona seems to be helping you just fine :) |
18:43.31 | Beladona | that will ensure they will be above the status bar |
18:44.19 | godzirra | Ok, let me try that in one sec... work calling. ;p |
18:44.32 | Beladona | I had to do the same thing with my status bar addon |
18:44.38 | Beladona | only I did it all via lua, no xml |
18:44.53 | godzirra | Ooh. I didnt even know you could do that. |
18:45.02 | Beladona | yeah |
18:45.04 | Beladona | easily |
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18:46.26 | Beladona | one sec, throwing an example together |
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18:51.49 | FoxMcLeod | I'd like to point out that Bunnies can't stand christmas, just like me : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WYOS2yyUEFk |
18:52.32 | godzirra | Beladona: no rush.. still trying to figure out this problem for work real quick. |
18:54.21 | Pandya | lol @ fedora website |
18:55.08 | godzirra | Beladona: Ok... so do i just move the FontString xml into StatusBar? |
18:58.10 | Beladona | yeah, with the layers |
18:58.28 | godzirra | So I create another Layer inside the Statusbar XML? |
18:58.39 | godzirra | Sorry, I really am a noob when it comes to this. |
18:59.20 | FoxMcLeod | err, the opposite of OnLoad is OnLeave, right? |
18:59.31 | Josh_Borke | there is no opposite of OnLeave |
18:59.39 | Josh_Borke | OnLoad is on the creation of the UI element |
19:00.05 | FoxMcLeod | What is triggered when WoW shuts down |
19:00.16 | FoxMcLeod | like Unload |
19:00.17 | godzirra | Onset of productivity. ;) |
19:00.22 | FoxMcLeod | hehe |
19:01.43 | FoxMcLeod | Well I thought I need to Unregister some events eventually :/ |
19:01.43 | Josh_Borke | FoxMcLeod: PLAYER_LOGOUT is fired when the player logs out of the game (which inclueds going to the character selection screen) |
19:01.53 | FoxMcLeod | k thanks |
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19:05.43 | Josh_Borke | woops |
19:07.50 | Thunder_Child | it would help if she was more attractive http://i.pbase.com/v3/90/78990/1/49853428.10NoPeaceNoPussy.jpg |
19:08.51 | Josh_Borke | no |
19:11.18 | dylanm | The line wrapping made me think that oPussy is a great name for a new haste addon. |
19:11.37 | haste | oh rly? |
19:11.41 | dylanm | YA RLY |
19:11.49 | godzirra | I wouldn't kick her out of bed. |
19:11.49 | seebs | Is there a good tutorial or document up explaining how to use template frames and create frames at runtime? I'm redoing AnnoyRP, and it has WAY too many frames with hardcoded names, etcetera; I'd rather use a more coherent structure, but the pages I read on the topic a year ago were not easy for me. |
19:12.10 | laindir | dylanm, O'Pussy imo |
19:12.22 | dylanm | laindir: Well you have to go by his naming conventions. |
19:12.22 | Thunder_Child | she would not have been in mine in the first place |
19:12.32 | dylanm | I think it's a bad angle. |
19:12.46 | dylanm | Or just... bad every-condition-possible-for-a-photo. |
19:13.37 | godzirra | Beladona: still there? :) |
19:13.59 | Josh_Borke | seebs: i don't know of any tutorials, sorry |
19:14.03 | seebs | Drat. |
19:14.03 | dylanm | If one were all about chests it would hardly matter in this case. |
19:14.43 | godzirra | Can anyone help me figure out how to make a fontstring a layer inside my statusbar? |
19:15.17 | FoxMcLeod | karatinaBar_Anchor = {"TOPLEFT", "UIParent", "TOPLEFT", 580, -245} |
19:15.28 | FoxMcLeod | Can I use a variable like that? |
19:15.44 | dylanm | FoxMcLeod: Sure. |
19:15.48 | FoxMcLeod | k |
19:16.00 | FoxMcLeod | wasn't sure |
19:16.05 | dylanm | Whether you really want to is a different story. |
19:16.11 | FoxMcLeod | ? |
19:16.46 | FoxMcLeod | I want the position to be saved between sessions, so I need a variable for the AnchorPoint, and this is the default values |
19:17.02 | FoxMcLeod | *are the default values |
19:17.43 | dylanm | Ah. Sounds fine really. |
19:17.48 | foxlit | The position of user-movable widgets is saved across sessions anyway |
19:17.56 | FoxMcLeod | Oh ok |
19:18.02 | FoxMcLeod | so no need for that :/ |
19:18.11 | foxlit | Not unless you run into problems :) |
19:18.19 | Josh_Borke | foxlit: only if defined in XML correct? |
19:18.41 | foxlit | Only if defined before PLAYER_ENTERING_WORLD, iirc |
19:19.05 | Josh_Borke | and named? |
19:19.20 | foxlit | You really don't want anonymous user-movable frames :P |
19:20.42 | Beladona | ping godzirra |
19:21.05 | Josh_Borke | i move my anonymous frames all the time ;-) |
19:21.25 | godzirra | Beladona: sorry, work people keep bugging me. ;) |
19:21.38 | FoxMcLeod | damn those, I hate them |
19:21.46 | FoxMcLeod | keep me from reading forums and stuff |
19:22.20 | godzirra | I know... |
19:22.22 | godzirra | and playing lbreakout2. |
19:23.52 | foxlit | grr, I need a sensible form manager in PHP :( |
19:24.15 | foxlit | Keep redoing the whole fetch-display-edit-display-update pattern for different forms, takes too much effort |
19:25.21 | godzirra | PHP ftl. |
19:26.15 | testleK | Can anyone tell me which event is fired when you change areas within a zone and not just on full zone switches? |
19:26.18 | foxlit | I wouldn't say that, you can't escape that no matter what you write in. |
19:26.28 | sag_ich_nicht | fishing(!) and cooking 300 \o/ |
19:26.38 | zenzelezz | only 75 to go! |
19:26.44 | foxlit | http://www.wowwiki.com/Events/Z can |
19:26.45 | godzirra | I would say that, and my statement had nothing to do with your problem. };) |
19:27.00 | sag_ich_nicht | zenzelezz you get fishing to 300 |
19:27.03 | sag_ich_nicht | then say that again :P |
19:27.07 | zenzelezz | I'm 375 |
19:27.11 | Taeri | I won the epic battle! ... of getting the boyfriend out of bed. :P |
19:27.12 | Josh_Borke | sag_ich_nicht: only 75 more to go |
19:27.23 | Josh_Borke | Taeri: you got nekkid and teased him from far away? |
19:27.36 | Taeri | Josh_Borke: Actually, no. |
19:27.46 | Josh_Borke | oh, ok |
19:27.51 | sag_ich_nicht | then tell us your method |
19:27.52 | Josh_Borke | that doesn't work for my fiancee |
19:27.55 | sag_ich_nicht | and we shall decide |
19:28.05 | sag_ich_nicht | if it was a good |
19:28.06 | Josh_Borke | but it works when she does it to me... |
19:28.07 | sag_ich_nicht | or a bad method |
19:28.24 | Josh_Borke | that didn't make much sense |
19:28.33 | Josh_Borke | it doesn't work when i try it on my fiancee, but when she does it to me it works |
19:28.39 | Dreagar | that cause guys are icky |
19:28.46 | Taeri | I just went to the bedrom, snuck in next to him, and started talking! Then when I had done that for a while, and knew he was awake, I went and turned on the lights. :P |
19:28.49 | Dreagar | and wiminz are like works of art. :D |
19:29.08 | Josh_Borke | Dreagar: that's what my friend and my fiancee both say |
19:29.13 | FoxMcLeod | ? |
19:29.14 | Josh_Borke | i have to agree with them |
19:29.25 | Taeri | cause are awesome! *drools in guys* |
19:29.39 | godzirra | Wow. Thats evil. |
19:29.48 | Josh_Borke | the talking is a nice touch |
19:29.51 | sag_ich_nicht | Taeri fail method |
19:29.55 | Dreagar | sorry i just can't look at a naked man and do anything but say. ewww. but a naked woman? wowzers. |
19:30.18 | FoxMcLeod | -.- |
19:30.21 | Taeri | sag_ich_nicht: pff, I succeeded, therfore, I win! |
19:30.36 | Dreagar | ok, back to readin about strings. :D yay pil! |
19:30.37 | FoxMcLeod | He let you win! |
19:30.52 | sag_ich_nicht | correct |
19:30.55 | Taeri | FoxMcLeod: I guess... he's falling asleep on the sofa now. :P |
19:30.58 | testleK | I checked out that wiki page before on it and was unsure of how it worked with the sub areas and the zone itself, does "ZONE_CHANGED_NEW_AREA" fire at the same time as "ZONE_CHANGED_INDOORS" and "ZONE_CHANGED" (I would thing "ZONE_CHANGED" and "ZONE_CHANGED"_NEW_AREA" fire at the same time) but do I need to call the indoors even as well as the area changed even to get this function to fire on every type of zone change, or is that going to cause this fu |
19:31.03 | Taeri | but he is going to make me food today! |
19:31.14 | FoxMcLeod | hehe |
19:31.27 | Shirik|AFK | s that going to cause this fu |
19:31.31 | Shirik|AFK | you got cut off |
19:31.48 | testleK | <PROTECTED> |
19:31.51 | testleK | lol |
19:31.58 | foxlit | Your best bet would be to go and test this yourself :) |
19:32.00 | Fin | whose guild is The Round Table, please? |
19:32.15 | Shirik|AFK | We're the knights of the round table |
19:32.17 | Fin | I mean, who on this channel mentioned them recently? |
19:32.18 | Josh_Borke | testleK: i recommend testing :-D |
19:32.20 | Josh_Borke | ~devtools |
19:32.21 | purl | Iriel's DevTools, a highly useful set of debugging tools for developers on WoW. Found at http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/fileinfo.php?id=3999 Why isn't it in the default client yet? |
19:32.21 | Shirik|AFK | We dance when e'er we're able |
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19:32.33 | Shirik|AFK | We do routines and chorus scenes and footwork impeccable |
19:32.45 | godzirra | lastlog round |
19:32.47 | godzirra | oops. |
19:33.03 | testleK | hrm oh i guess I could make it print text that would work for checking :P |
19:33.20 | Fin | sing the philosopher's song! that's one of my favourites |
19:33.23 | Fin | that and the penis song |
19:34.03 | godzirra | I like boobtacular spectacular |
19:34.12 | Fin | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nGRPFUYUUdQ |
19:34.31 | malreth | boobular tubular? |
19:34.36 | Fin | hooray for your one eyed trouser snake! |
19:34.37 | godzirra | Yeah, thats it. |
19:34.38 | godzirra | Woops. |
19:39.47 | Dreagar | ok. i have a string ##-## zone |
19:40.03 | testleK | hey thanks for that link to devtools I actually had it but didn't notice /dtevent untill I just looked at it again from your msg this will do exactly what I need to figure this out thanks |
19:40.19 | Josh_Borke | testleK: glad i could help |
19:40.34 | Dreagar | i want to check to make sure it's in the proper format. soi can do a gsub to get rid of the numbers, and make sure there is a actual zone name there. |
19:40.58 | Dreagar | but i'm unsure as to how to make sure the numbers are in fact numbers... |
19:40.59 | Dreagar | oh. |
19:41.01 | Dreagar | nm |
19:41.28 | Dreagar | if i do a gsub to get rid of the numbers. and it's an actual zone, then they have to have been numbers. |
19:42.10 | Taeri | I need lots of lots of runecloth. :p |
19:42.36 | Dreagar | i got like 1000 in my bank Taeri, but i'm savin up for pants. |
19:42.43 | Dreagar | so u can't ahve em |
19:43.25 | seebs | Is there a reasonably simple way to make a scrolling text window -- or possibly even a scrolling HTML text window -- in an addon? |
19:43.59 | Josh_Borke | seebs: look up the ScrollingMessageFrame or is it MessageScrollingFrame? |
19:44.06 | seebs | Okay, cool. |
19:44.13 | Josh_Borke | HTML text would be a bit harder |
19:44.15 | seebs | See, AnnoyRP was my very first addon, and it's a horrific mess. |
19:44.21 | foxlit | SimpleHTML works |
19:44.36 | seebs | There's an HTML-renderer element the game provides, but it doesn't scroll... Or at least, if it does, I didn't know how when I wrote this. |
19:44.39 | Josh_Borke | simplehtml does work, but it doesn't scroll |
19:44.44 | Dreagar | i looked at lightheaded to get an idea of how to do html and scrolling frame |
19:44.45 | foxlit | Meh |
19:44.52 | foxlit | You can make it scroll, it's not exactly a problem :) |
19:45.01 | foxlit | (that's what ScrollFrame is for, really) |
19:45.06 | Josh_Borke | yes, but it's a lot harder than a scrollingmessageframe |
19:45.12 | foxlit | No way :0 |
19:45.24 | seebs | But then, I had a 40k XML file full of dozens of things like <frame name=AnnoyRP_ScrollListItem1> (lots of stuff), <frame name=AnnoyRP_ScrollListItem2> (same stuff), etc. |
19:45.46 | foxlit | virtual frames are a friend :) |
19:46.03 | seebs | Yes. But I don't know how to use them. |
19:46.25 | foxlit | Still, or just then? |
19:46.26 | seebs | Today's project is going to be learning how to use virtual frames enough to make the beginnings of my interface again, and sort of sketching out the rough framework for the event handling. |
19:46.49 | seebs | I'm also switching to using my GetOpt library for command parsing, because SO MUCH LESS WORK. |
19:47.13 | Dreagar | have u checked out Wow UI desigener Seebs? |
19:47.19 | foxlit | <ScrollFrame><ScrollChild><SimpleHTML/></ScrollChild></ScrollFrame> |
19:47.22 | seebs | Nope. |
19:47.28 | seebs | Foxlit: Woah. That easy? |
19:47.35 | foxlit | And you're about done as far as making SimpleHTML scroll |
19:47.42 | foxlit | Yep |
19:47.49 | seebs | AnnoyRP desperately needs a lot more documentation than I could fit in a reasonable-sized frame. |
19:47.51 | Dreagar | i dunno if there's scrollin frames, but it really helped me to be able to visually setup the frame and then look at the xml to figure out how to do it on my own |
19:47.52 | foxlit | You position ScrollFrame as you would a normal frame |
19:47.53 | seebs | This will help a lot. |
19:48.35 | foxlit | You can probably steal an example from my config/changenotes dialog in http://downloads.curse.com/details/3601/ |
19:49.07 | seebs | Thanks! |
19:49.50 | malreth | after all these years, i'm still happy when i reboot a production server and it successfully comes back up... o_o |
19:50.05 | Dreagar | it's the little things |
19:50.28 | testleK | malreth: LOL |
19:50.30 | Fin | seebs: make it a scrolling frame |
19:50.39 | seebs | Thanks much. :) |
19:50.54 | seebs | I'm going to have to go out someplace with coffee and sammiches, I think, to work on this for a few hours. |
19:51.12 | Dreagar | don't get crumbs in the keyboard |
19:51.47 | seebs | I wonder whether I can even load WoW enough to run simple chatter and event tests over cell phone. Probably not. Better go someplace with wireless. |
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19:54.56 | foxlit | I'm begining to hate my column-naming style in databases |
19:55.16 | Dreagar | if i have 12-13 Westfall, and i wanna gsub the 12-13 out. would the pattern %d%d-%d%d%s work for that? |
19:55.21 | foxlit | $article['article_id'], $article['article_title'] isn't pretty :( |
19:55.36 | Dreagar | kinda redundant too fox |
19:56.05 | foxlit | It's not when you start doing natural joins, but it's horrible within php |
19:56.26 | foxlit | Er, your pattern is kind of off |
19:56.43 | foxlit | [digit][one or more digits, lazy][digit][digit][space] |
19:56.47 | Dreagar | so i'm gonna do newString = oldstring.gsub("%d%d-%d%d%s", "") |
19:56.58 | MentalPower | Dreagar: %%d+%%-%%d+%s |
19:57.02 | Dreagar | well i was wonderin if i'd have a problem with the -. |
19:57.13 | Dreagar | since it's a magic character |
19:57.14 | sag_ich_nicht | Cairenn |
19:57.18 | foxlit | %d*%-%d*%s |
19:57.19 | sag_ich_nicht | there is a bug with the spamfilter on wowi |
19:57.31 | sag_ich_nicht | specialist gets caught |
19:57.42 | foxlit | as in oldstring:gsub("^%d*%-%d*%s", ""); |
19:57.52 | Dreagar | ooo that's a good idea fox, wouldn't that also ensure that it will pick up any number of digits? with the *? |
19:57.59 | foxlit | Yep |
19:58.02 | Dreagar | awesome! |
19:58.11 | foxlit | You really don't want it to break in expansion #17 |
19:58.12 | foxlit | :) |
19:58.47 | Dreagar | I don't understand the + Mental wait, that just accounts for 1 extra digit? |
19:59.07 | Dreagar | where * accounts for any # of digits? |
19:59.21 | MentalPower | nm me, its * not + |
19:59.45 | Dreagar | oh ok. it's realy confusing in pil. + is 1 or more, and * is 0 or more?? |
19:59.47 | malreth | + matches 1 or more repetitions of the class greedily |
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20:00.08 | foxlit | Yeah, it makes sense in some circumstances |
20:00.09 | Dreagar | don't make sense why they'd need both.? |
20:00.36 | Dreagar | ooo I See!! i do want +. |
20:00.57 | Dreagar | because if there's no digits, the string is invalid for my uses |
20:01.02 | Dreagar | right? |
20:01.27 | Dreagar | because * will match xero occurances? |
20:01.39 | malreth | lua> string.match("12-18 Belgium", "%d+%-%d+%s") |
20:01.39 | lua_bot | malreth: 12-18 , |
20:01.43 | Josh_Borke | Dreagar: * matches 0 or more |
20:02.02 | malreth | lua> string.match("12-18 Belgium", "(%d+%-%d+)%s") |
20:02.03 | lua_bot | malreth: 12-18, |
20:02.34 | foxlit | Yeah, you could use + :) |
20:02.55 | Dreagar | lua> string.match ("1-10 Tucson", "%d*%-%d*%s") |
20:02.55 | lua_bot | Dreagar: 1-10 , |
20:03.01 | foxlit | If you don't want to match say "70- SMV" or "-5 Westfall"); |
20:03.36 | Dreagar | lua> string.match(1- Tucson", %d+%-%d+%s") |
20:03.36 | lua_bot | Dreagar: [string "string.match(1- Tucson", %d+%-%d+%s")"]:1: attempt to call global 'Tucson' (a nil value) |
20:03.42 | Dreagar | oops |
20:03.47 | Dreagar | lua> string.match("1- Tucson", %d+%-%d+%s") |
20:03.48 | lua_bot | Dreagar: sandbox.lua:298: Compilation failed: [string "string.match("1- Tucson", %d+%-%d+%s")"]:1: unexpected symbol near '%' |
20:03.55 | Dreagar | lua> string.match("1- Tucson", "%d+%-%d+%s") |
20:03.55 | lua_bot | Dreagar: nil, |
20:03.57 | malreth | can't win! |
20:03.59 | Dreagar | YAY! |
20:04.02 | Dreagar | that'll do |
20:04.16 | Dreagar | Thanks guys. i think i have a good grasp of the string matching now |
20:07.02 | Dreagar | now i just gotta learn gsub. lol |
20:08.14 | malreth | lua> string.gsub("string to find/replace on", "find", "replace") |
20:08.14 | lua_bot | malreth: string to replace/replace on, 1, |
20:08.47 | Dreagar | the string u feed in does not actually get changed correct? |
20:08.59 | malreth | strings are immutable in lua |
20:09.03 | Dreagar | k |
20:09.08 | malreth | so gsub() returns a new string |
20:09.50 | Dreagar | lua> a="hi there" string.gsub(a, "hi", "bye") print(a) |
20:09.51 | lua_bot | Dreagar: hi there |
20:09.54 | Dreagar | yay! |
20:09.55 | Dreagar | ok |
20:10.38 | malreth | the real strength of gsub comes when you use patterns for the "find" and tables or functions for the "replace" |
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20:13.46 | malreth | lua> t={name="malreth", class="Rogue", level="noob"}; print(string.gsub("That $class, $name, is a $level.", "%$(%w+)", t)) |
20:13.46 | lua_bot | malreth: That Rogue, malreth, is a noob., 3 |
20:16.13 | Dreagar | LOL. |
20:16.15 | Dreagar | NICE |
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20:22.49 | testleK | So I have been searching wowwiki trying to find some reference to how I would pass on a slash command to wow via lua. example, addon A uses /A DO THIS as a slash command I want to have a function in my addon do the same as typing /A DO THIS in the chat window, how on earth is this done? |
20:24.23 | cladhaire | you call teh slash command handler |
20:24.29 | cladhaire | for example, you have SLASH_SOMETEXT1 = "/A" |
20:24.40 | cladhaire | then you have SlashCmdList["SLASH"] = <some function> |
20:24.51 | cladhaire | you can then call SlashCmdList["SLASH"]("DO THIS") |
20:24.53 | cladhaire | to accomplish that |
20:25.12 | testleK | for calling someone elses slash command? doesnt that just set it in your own script? |
20:25.35 | cladhaire | Well |
20:25.39 | cladhaire | they had to have done the same thing |
20:25.52 | cladhaire | and you can access it using the same method |
20:26.32 | malreth | testleK: clad isn't telling you to create a slash handler in your script... he means for you to use the other addon's slash handler directly |
20:26.48 | testleK | ahh I see |
20:27.28 | testleK | so the only way to do it is to open up the lua of the other addon and use its function directly as opposed to actually having your script just do the slash command |
20:27.44 | cladhaire | you could run a macro via api |
20:28.02 | cladhaire | but thats the cleanest way |
20:28.16 | cladhaire | are you trying to do this with multiple addons in different places? |
20:29.35 | testleK | What I'm trying to do is have my addon on a single slash command from me automagically set up devtools to load certain / commands. This kind of usage would be done in for multiple addons |
20:30.45 | testleK | the idea being one / command would change the basic layout of things for what I'm doing example: /myaddon devmode or /myaddon playmode |
20:31.26 | Lunessa | http://scrink.com/blog/music/mrgrinch.mp3 - totally off topic. |
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20:32.04 | cladhaire | testleK: if nothing is a /cast or /target like command |
20:32.22 | cladhaire | then you can use RunMacroText("/dtframestack\n/say "I'm in devtools mode") |
20:33.10 | FoxMcLeod | Is there a way to delay calling a function? |
20:33.13 | Cairenn | that's an interesting version of it, Lunessa |
20:33.32 | cladhaire | FoxMcLeod: not directly, but you can do it via some libraries |
20:33.43 | FoxMcLeod | hm mok |
20:33.43 | cladhaire | or write a "timer" yourself with an OnUpdate |
20:33.46 | Lunessa | I like it. I'm a jazz fan and that woman's voice? HAWT |
20:34.04 | cladhaire | local frame = CreateFrame(" |
20:34.07 | cladhaire | err |
20:35.18 | cladhaire | local frame = CreateFrame("Frame"); local total = 0; local function OnUpdate(self, elapsed) total = total + elapsed; if (total > 3.0) then ChatFrame1:AddMessage("Three seconds later..."); total = 0; self:Hide() end end |
20:35.34 | cladhaire | err then you have to frame:SetScript("OnUpdate", OnUpdate) |
20:35.37 | cladhaire | in the same block |
20:35.44 | cladhaire | but that would in theory make a timer that does somethign after 3 seconds |
20:35.56 | FoxMcLeod | problem is I want tosall a function to set vars on event "VARIABLES_LOADED" problem is this function includes getting some information from the spellbook, which obviously is not yet loaded |
20:36.08 | cladhaire | FoxMcLeod: use PLAYER_LOGIN |
20:36.22 | FoxMcLeod | oh right, thanks |
20:36.22 | cladhaire | that's when the spellbook is available. |
20:37.22 | testleK | I tried to do this: RunMacroText("/dtevents") and its blizz blocked (even though its not a cast or target?) |
20:38.16 | cladhaire | oh, that's right that is protected =/ |
20:38.29 | cladhaire | My mistake, sorry to lead you down the wrong direction |
20:38.39 | cladhaire | I could probably write you a simple function that will "run" a slash command for you |
20:38.41 | testleK | lol no problem hehe |
20:38.41 | cladhaire | if you'll wait a moment. |
20:38.54 | testleK | that would rock and I'd owe you bigtime :P |
20:39.24 | cladhaire | you have to post it on wowwiki tho :P |
20:39.27 | cladhaire | under user-defined functions |
20:40.28 | testleK | Alright I'll do that and of course your credit |
20:41.04 | Josh_Borke | local function runSlash(slashCmd) local func; for cmd, f in pairs(SlashCmdList) if cmd == slashCmd then func = f end end; if func and type(func) == "function" then func() end |
20:41.05 | Josh_Borke | is my idea |
20:41.11 | Josh_Borke | but no wow to test |
20:41.36 | Dreagar | how many ands can u do in an if statement? can i do if true and true and true then? |
20:41.53 | Josh_Borke | Dreagar: infinite |
20:41.59 | Josh_Borke | or at least, some really large number |
20:42.02 | Dreagar | awesome tx |
20:44.16 | Josh_Borke | someone test my runslash command! |
20:44.46 | Xinhuan | cladhaire, do you think this is a bug? http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=3547726340&sid=1 |
20:44.53 | testleK | trying to get it to work heh |
20:45.44 | foxlit | erm, Josh |
20:45.49 | Josh_Borke | yea? |
20:45.50 | cladhaire | Xinhuan: probably intended. |
20:45.57 | Josh_Borke | did i get my table wrong? |
20:45.59 | cladhaire | since I believe that involved a query |
20:46.09 | foxlit | You want someone to give you the cmd directly? |
20:46.18 | Xinhuan | well if both items exist in my local cache |
20:46.19 | foxlit | It's not the slash command key |
20:46.24 | Xinhuan | there is 0 query |
20:46.33 | testleK | can't seem to get it to do anything |
20:46.51 | Josh_Borke | huh, guess i had it wrong |
20:47.17 | Josh_Borke | Xinhuan: did you check the time between calls? |
20:47.25 | Josh_Borke | oh wait |
20:47.29 | Xinhuan | its 0 ms heh |
20:47.29 | Josh_Borke | the problem is it got added too soon |
20:47.31 | foxlit | the global SLASH_[cmd]1, SLASH_[cmd]2 contain the actual slash commands |
20:47.41 | Josh_Borke | foxlit: ah, right, thanks |
20:47.45 | Josh_Borke | forgot about that |
20:47.50 | foxlit | (there may be a heckload of those) |
20:48.03 | foxlit | But if I were you, I'd look up to how entered chat text is handled by the chatframe :) |
20:48.08 | Xinhuan | the first time the event fires, cladhaire, is right after the first internal item, before the mats of the recipe is displayed |
20:48.21 | Xinhuan | the 2nd time it fires is after the whole item |
20:48.29 | cladhaire | *nod* |
20:48.34 | cladhaire | i'd cache it on your side of things |
20:48.57 | cladhaire | foxlit: setting text in the chateditbox is okay.. but *meh* |
20:49.09 | foxlit | There isn't a function? :) |
20:49.49 | testleK | I can't possibly be the first person wanting to do this lol |
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20:51.01 | Josh_Borke | gonna have to pastey... |
20:52.05 | cladhaire | damn |
20:52.09 | cladhaire | i lost my code |
20:52.11 | cladhaire | now jb is gonna win |
20:52.15 | Josh_Borke | lol |
20:54.10 | Josh_Borke | meh, just copy ChatFrame.lua lines 3100-3116 |
20:54.47 | cladhaire | heh |
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20:54.50 | cladhaire | cheetah |
20:54.58 | cladhaire | but correct |
20:55.17 | Josh_Borke | http://wowi.pastey.net/79247 i think |
20:55.26 | Josh_Borke | there's a large possibility it doesn't work |
20:56.09 | testleK | ill go test |
20:56.15 | cladhaire | that screams out for a repeat until |
20:56.21 | cladhaire | and it didn't wokr, that's the same thing i did :P |
20:56.24 | cladhaire | trying to figure out what didn't work :P |
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20:57.26 | Josh_Borke | lol clad |
20:58.08 | testleK | couldnt get it to work either hehe |
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20:59.00 | Josh_Borke | http://wowi.pastey.net/79249 updated to use repeat until :-D |
20:59.12 | Josh_Borke | but i'm sure it still won't work |
20:59.36 | Josh_Borke | it's just fun to use repeat until |
20:59.50 | cladhaire | http://images.gammatester.com/pics/2d0e13af0ae5097e74e6314d3c0c17d2.png works fine |
20:59.56 | cladhaire | as long as you dont' use secure slash commands |
21:00.14 | cladhaire | http://wow.pastey.net/79250 |
21:00.24 | cladhaire | usage is RunSlashCmd("/whatever args here do whatever you want") |
21:00.28 | cladhaire | as if you typed it into the chatbox. |
21:00.48 | cladhaire | tested with a bunch of different cases, as you can see |
21:00.54 | Josh_Borke | gief new wowlua |
21:01.01 | Josh_Borke | or i'll eat your brains |
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21:01.32 | cladhaire | http://wow.pastey.net/79250 has been updated |
21:01.40 | cladhaire | it returns true if a commadn was run, false if no matching command was found. |
21:01.56 | Josh_Borke | you should return true, SlashCmdList[name](rest) |
21:02.05 | cladhaire | meh |
21:02.11 | cladhaire | slash commadns don't return anything |
21:02.12 | cladhaire | but yes :P |
21:02.34 | cladhaire | Xinhuan: you should be able to cache what you've just displayed, to ensure you don't add the lines twice, right? |
21:02.40 | Shirik|AFK | well they /can/ |
21:02.44 | cladhaire | aye |
21:02.45 | Shirik|AFK | though it isn't exactly useful to do that |
21:02.57 | Shirik|AFK | semantics :P |
21:02.58 | Xinhuan | yes, but the added data just gets added at the "first event" point |
21:03.00 | cladhaire | fine bitchez |
21:03.00 | cladhaire | http://wow.pastey.net/79251 |
21:03.08 | Xinhuan | which is between the "mats list" and "item" |
21:03.11 | cladhaire | Xinhuan: Any events fire in between? |
21:03.15 | Xinhuan | kinda counter intuitive |
21:03.21 | Xinhuan | not that i can see/detect |
21:03.24 | cladhaire | yeah that is rather odd =// |
21:03.30 | cladhaire | any way i can test this easily? |
21:03.34 | cladhaire | did you already paste something? |
21:03.40 | Xinhuan | yeah, the link earlier |
21:03.44 | Xinhuan | has a simple test command |
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21:04.09 | Josh_Borke | Xinhuan: only happens with recipes? |
21:04.09 | cladhaire | scrolling back |
21:04.15 | Xinhuan | yea |
21:04.15 | testleK | sweet lemme test it out |
21:04.34 | Josh_Borke | Xinhuan: why not check for that and then wait for second call to add the info? |
21:05.16 | Xinhuan | if it isn't a recipe, it won't fire twice |
21:05.28 | testleK | Very nice this functions perfectly cladhaire!! |
21:05.38 | Xinhuan | and i would then only be able to tell if its a recipe by scanning the item name for "Schematic:" prefixes |
21:05.47 | Xinhuan | and then have to deal with localization |
21:05.54 | cladhaire | testleK: great! |
21:06.02 | cladhaire | Xinhuan: hrm.. that is rather odd |
21:06.05 | cladhaire | i'll see what i can dig up |
21:06.13 | Josh_Borke | Xinhuan: false |
21:06.37 | Josh_Borke | Xinhuan: local itemName, itemLink = self:GetItem() |
21:07.16 | Josh_Borke | local name, link, rarity, level, minlevel, type, subType = GetItemInfo(itemLink) |
21:07.27 | cladhaire | yeah you can determine if its a recipe |
21:07.30 | cladhaire | but that seems rather nasty |
21:07.38 | Xinhuan | hmmm check type/subtype? |
21:07.45 | Xinhuan | that again requires localization |
21:07.46 | Josh_Borke | if type == "Recipe" then |
21:08.01 | Josh_Borke | indeed |
21:08.01 | Xinhuan | because GetItemInfo's Type and subtype returns are localized |
21:08.04 | Xinhuan | its just fucked |
21:08.05 | foxlit | Some of those are probably tokens |
21:08.10 | Josh_Borke | that's why i said to go fuck yourself |
21:08.14 | foxlit | And you can probably find that localization in globalstring |
21:08.32 | foxlit | But anyway |
21:08.32 | Xinhuan | definitely not tokens, every addon i checked localizaed those returns manually |
21:08.40 | foxlit | Why not detect that you have two item names in the tooltip? |
21:08.54 | Xinhuan | because the default GTT refreshes itself every 0.2 secs |
21:09.08 | Xinhuan | an in the case of the mailbox item tooltip, every frame |
21:09.10 | foxlit | So it's not current when your event triggers? |
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21:09.15 | Xinhuan | (blizz is dumb) |
21:09.24 | foxlit | You're not making that point very clear. |
21:09.42 | Josh_Borke | cladhaire: do we have to wait for ze book for new wowlua? |
21:09.51 | Xinhuan | the GTT has an onupdate that refreshes the item every 0.2 secs |
21:10.00 | cladhaire | Josh_Borke: no, you just have to wait for exams/editing to be over |
21:10.02 | cladhaire | and for me to have time |
21:10.25 | Josh_Borke | NEVA! |
21:10.26 | Xinhuan | so if i were to just check that the function is called twice directly with the same itemname |
21:10.30 | Xinhuan | it won't really work |
21:10.42 | cladhaire | Josh_Borke: i can post it for you, if you'd like in the meantime |
21:10.45 | foxlit | gr |
21:10.46 | cladhaire | but it doesn't save anything |
21:10.47 | cladhaire | at the moment |
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21:10.51 | Josh_Borke | cladhaire: ok, i'll take it |
21:10.54 | cladhaire | just lets you type, run, and use the interpreter |
21:11.02 | Josh_Borke | and then i'll give you a diff when i add saving to it |
21:11.08 | Josh_Borke | so you can say "this is crap" and do it yourself |
21:11.09 | cladhaire | -) |
21:11.11 | cladhaire | cool |
21:11.19 | foxlit | Now I have to log in to actually test it :/ |
21:11.33 | Josh_Borke | k, i'm ready to go home now :-/ |
21:12.25 | cladhaire | Josh_Borke: http://files.gammatester.com/e2a4ea65d0f67806ec2004c4cd82fd7e.zip |
21:12.30 | NightHawkTheSane | hah, John Gruber's awesome, "New feature release of Perl, the world’s best programming language. Oh, yeah, that’s what I said, bitch." |
21:13.13 | Xinhuan | lol |
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21:16.10 | cladhaire | ZOMG |
21:16.35 | Josh_Borke | you find a shiny penny? |
21:16.58 | Josh_Borke | i am apparently going on a trip in the 2nd week of january |
21:18.17 | NightHawkTheSane | sb.Append("""") that makes me /cry |
21:19.19 | malreth | lua> t=os.time()+2;while os.time()<t do end |
21:19.20 | foxlit | You can work around the tooltip thing without localization |
21:19.21 | lua_bot | malreth: |
21:19.33 | malreth | lua> t=os.time()+2;while os.time()>t do end |
21:19.34 | lua_bot | malreth: |
21:19.43 | Josh_Borke | lua> t=os.time()+2;while os.time()<t do a=a+1 end print(a) |
21:19.43 | lua_bot | Josh_Borke: [string "t=os.time()+2;while os.time()<t do a=a+1 en..."]:1: attempt to perform arithmetic on global 'a' (a nil value) |
21:19.51 | Josh_Borke | lua> t=os.time()+2;while os.time()<t do a=a or 0 +1 end print(a) |
21:19.53 | lua_bot | Josh_Borke: 1 |
21:19.56 | foxlit | Check that the tooltip is currently showing a pattern by checking the presence of a line starting with a newline - that'd contain the child item name |
21:20.25 | malreth | lua> t=os.time()+2;while os.time()>t do a=a or 0 +1 end print(a) |
21:20.26 | lua_bot | malreth: nil |
21:20.43 | Josh_Borke | lua> os.time() |
21:20.44 | lua_bot | Josh_Borke: 1198099243, |
21:21.02 | malreth | lua> t=os.time()+6;while os.time()>t do end |
21:21.03 | lua_bot | malreth: |
21:21.08 | foxlit | lua> math.random(); |
21:21.08 | malreth | lua> t=os.time()+6;while os.time()<t do end |
21:21.08 | lua_bot | foxlit: 0.39438292681909, |
21:21.14 | lua_bot | malreth: sandbox.lua:166: maximum execution time (5s) exceeded |
21:21.14 | foxlit | lua> math.random(); |
21:21.15 | lua_bot | foxlit: 0.79844003347607, |
21:21.20 | foxlit | hm, persistant |
21:21.22 | malreth | yep... |
21:22.40 | testleK | Thanks cladhaire & Josh_Borke for all the effort, I will post this up on the wiki aswell for others that have use for this-- http://www.wowwiki.com/User_defined_functions (Posted) |
21:23.11 | Xinhuan | [12/20 05:21:59] <foxlit> Check that the tooltip is currently showing a pattern by checking the presence of a line starting with a newline - that'd contain the child item name <-- i believe set items also have newlines? unsure |
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21:23.56 | foxlit | Well, if that had to be narrowed down |
21:23.57 | seebs | Cany anyone recommend a tool to me that would help me narrow down "Couldn |
21:24.04 | seebs | "Couldn't parse XML in ..."? |
21:24.08 | foxlit | Yeah |
21:24.10 | foxlit | Open firefox |
21:24.10 | Xinhuan | yes |
21:24.12 | Xinhuan | open in ff |
21:24.14 | seebs | Firefox thinks it's fine. |
21:24.23 | foxlit | Erm, pastey it |
21:24.25 | Xinhuan | paste code |
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21:24.31 | foxlit | check that line's text against the first line in the tooltip |
21:24.40 | foxlit | You should match the right side on all localizations |
21:25.07 | seebs | 'k, just a sec while I sanity-check |
21:25.52 | malreth | wait... don't sanity check it... you're doing your work for yourself instead of letting us do it for you! |
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21:26.06 | foxlit | ohnoes! |
21:26.21 | Xinhuan | tsk tsk |
21:26.24 | seebs | Heh. |
21:26.25 | foxlit | Another instance of good foresight foiled by malreth! :P |
21:26.37 | seebs | Actually, I found an obvious problem: <OnEvent>...</OnLoad> |
21:27.18 | cladhaire | xml validation ftw |
21:28.24 | seebs | I have no idea. |
21:28.45 | malreth | maybe you have a broken version of Firefox |
21:28.54 | Xinhuan | maybe i should modify one of my xml files and see what ff says |
21:28.54 | seebs | I think I may have had bitrot. Now I still can't figure out ... I get no messages at all, but it doesn't look like the addon's loaded. Hmm. |
21:29.10 | seebs | No, it's loaded. |
21:29.22 | Xinhuan | it wil l fail to load if you misspell your dependencies |
21:29.34 | Xinhuan | so today, i wrote in one of my addons Dependencies: Fubar |
21:29.39 | Xinhuan | instead of FuBar |
21:29.46 | Josh_Borke | local t={}; local function RunSlash(slash) t['GetText'] = function() return slash end; ChatEdit_ParseText(t) end |
21:29.49 | Xinhuan | and that took 1 hour to find |
21:29.54 | Josh_Borke | someone try that |
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21:30.22 | seebs | Hmm. |
21:30.26 | Xinhuan | but the login screen will happily detect "Fubar" and count it properly disabled/enabled if FuBar is enabled/disabled |
21:30.26 | malreth | wb, Cairenn |
21:30.32 | Cairenn | thanks |
21:30.34 | Josh_Borke | ~lart Cairenn |
21:30.34 | purl | readies the nuke launcher and fires some rounds at Cairenn |
21:30.35 | Josh_Borke | erm |
21:30.36 | Josh_Borke | ~hug Cairenn |
21:30.37 | purl | ACTION jumps into Cairenn's lap and huggles and *hugs* Cairenn |
21:30.37 | Xinhuan | blizz can be silly |
21:30.53 | zenzelezz | Josh's true colors finally shine |
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21:31.30 | godzirra | Ok... wtf. White wolf really needs to add in a simple freaking check to see if a name it suggests is already taken on a server. Stupid randomize pos. |
21:31.33 | godzirra | </rant> |
21:31.33 | Josh_Borke | lua> local t={}; local function RunSlash(slash) t['GetText'] = function() return slash end; ChatEdit_ParseText(t) end |
21:31.34 | lua_bot | Josh_Borke: |
21:31.37 | seebs | Hmm. |
21:31.51 | seebs | Now it's loading -- it's just not doing anything. Hmmmmmm. |
21:31.56 | foxlit | yeah, taint the chatframe! |
21:32.00 | foxlit | do eeeet! :) |
21:32.17 | foxlit | Or not, I should read things more carefully. |
21:32.29 | Josh_Borke | lua> ChatEdit_ParseText = function(editBox, send) local text = editBox:GetText(); print(text) end; local t={}; local function RunSlash(slash) t['GetText'] = function() return slash end; ChatEdit_ParseText(t) end RunSlash("/dump fred") |
21:32.30 | lua_bot | Josh_Borke: /dump fred |
21:32.49 | Josh_Borke | but generates trash |
21:33.17 | foxlit | rejuse t |
21:33.22 | Josh_Borke | i reuse t |
21:33.27 | Josh_Borke | but i can't reuse the function |
21:33.28 | Josh_Borke | oh, i know |
21:33.31 | foxlit | Yes, you can |
21:33.44 | seebs | Okay, making a slash command... Set SlashCmdList["FOO"] = function, then set SLASH_FOO1 = "/cmd", right? |
21:34.00 | Josh_Borke | local t={GetText = function() return t.text end }; local function RunSlash(slash) t.text = slash; ChatEdit_ParseText(t) end |
21:34.32 | Josh_Borke | lua> ChatEdit_ParseText = function(editBox, send) local text = editBox:GetText(); print(text) end; local t={GetText = function() return t.text end }; local function RunSlash(slash) t.text = slash; ChatEdit_ParseText(t) end; RunSlash("/dump fred") |
21:34.33 | lua_bot | Josh_Borke: [string "ChatEdit_ParseText = function(editBox, send..."]:1: attempt to index global 't' (a nil value) |
21:34.58 | Josh_Borke | lua> ChatEdit_ParseText = function(editBox, send) local text = editBox:GetText(); print(text) end; local t={}; t.GetText = function(self) return self.text end; local function RunSlash(slash) t.text = slash; ChatEdit_ParseText(t) end; RunSlash("/dump fred") |
21:34.59 | lua_bot | Josh_Borke: /dump fred |
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21:35.30 | Josh_Borke | i win |
21:35.45 | Josh_Borke | me > clad |
21:36.26 | malreth | you are now! |
21:36.31 | Josh_Borke | /flex |
21:37.46 | seebs | Ahh! It appears that my attempt to assign to SlashCmdList["PESTERRP"] is failing. |
21:39.39 | testleK | Josh_Borke: local t={}; local function RunSlash(slash) t['GetText'] = function() return slash end; ChatEdit_ParseText(t) end |
21:39.39 | testleK | RunSlash("/help") |
21:39.41 | testleK | works |
21:40.02 | cladhaire | aye |
21:40.37 | testleK | lol apearently I didn't scroll down before I posted lol u got it tested |
21:41.16 | seebs | What's the magic to allow UI errors to be displayed, instead of having them disappear silently? |
21:41.24 | foxlit | interface options |
21:42.28 | somma86 | does anyone have an idea how to check if someone on my realm is online? i need it for an addon. there i will have the check in and if the player is not online the addon shoudnt sent the player an wisper |
21:42.30 | FoxMcLeod | finally 1.3Beta can now save between sessions |
21:43.03 | Xinhuan | the only way to check is either by doing a /who on him, or to attempt to whisper him |
21:43.22 | seebs | Thanks. Doh! |
21:43.29 | Xinhuan | and checking the reply |
21:44.10 | testleK | So which slash sending code is more efficient to use? Or does it even matter? :P |
21:44.30 | Xinhuan | a more creative way is to add him to your friends list, wait for an update to friends list,check if he is online, then remove him |
21:44.54 | Xinhuan | but that would also cause "abc added to friends list" system message |
21:45.02 | somma86 | is it possible to to check it with /who without seeing it in the chat? |
21:45.27 | Xinhuan | not possible, without great pains to hook into a lotof things to surpress it |
21:45.43 | Xinhuan | because you don't want to surpress legitimate real /whos |
21:45.51 | foxlit | suppressing default chat is relatively easy |
21:46.22 | dylanm | Yeah that's not hard. SendWhoToUI or something like that. |
21:46.25 | somma86 | k and do you have an idea how the if function has to be coded? |
21:46.30 | Xinhuan | not that easy when you consider 8 different locales |
21:47.00 | Xinhuan | i have an idea, but it will involve a lot of lines i don't really care to help with ;p |
21:47.56 | foxlit | It doesn't even have to go to chat :) |
21:48.06 | foxlit | There's a flag that redirects it to UI, that should be easier to supress. |
21:48.20 | somma86 | ony the function that with the chat is not so important |
21:48.34 | foxlit | But your best is probably to add the guy as a temporary friend |
21:48.38 | foxlit | ^bet |
21:49.23 | dylanm | Because you then don't have to deal with the weirdness of the /who system? |
21:49.51 | foxlit | No, because it's harder to interfere with the person playing the game that way |
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21:57.47 | seebs | Hmm. Well, now I just can't SEE my frame. But I think I have a frame! |
21:57.53 | seebs | I hate the GUI side of this program so much. |
22:00.04 | Xuerian | seebs: Gotta give your frame a backdrop |
22:00.11 | seebs | I think I did. |
22:00.37 | Xuerian | make sure it's shown, make sure it's on screen, make sure it's more than 0px wide/tall |
22:00.53 | Furl | Halo, 24hr backlog. |
22:00.59 | Furl | ~seen Furl |
22:01.01 | purl | furl is currently on #wowi-lounge #wowhead #wowwiki. Has said a total of 2 messages. Is idling for 2s, last said: '~seen Furl'. |
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22:01.10 | Furl | Bleh. |
22:01.38 | Thunder_Child | The Rolling Stone MAgazines top 50 songs. #of songs listed 485 |
22:01.45 | Thunder_Child | ... |
22:02.11 | Xuerian | .... |
22:02.14 | Xuerian | Someone fails at life |
22:02.25 | Furl | I can't inger myself. |
22:02.27 | Thunder_Child | indeed |
22:02.27 | Furl | finger* |
22:02.32 | seebs | http://wowi.pastey.net/79255 <-- any reason why PesterRP_GuiFrame:Show() would not result in something becoming visible? |
22:02.38 | Thunder_Child | Furl, practace |
22:03.35 | Thunder_Child | although i can seem to finger myself |
22:03.50 | foxlit | caps |
22:04.03 | Xinhuan | your frame doesn't have an anchor point |
22:04.04 | seebs | Er, GUIFrame. |
22:04.06 | Furl | Haha |
22:04.24 | Xinhuan | a frame must have a width/height/anchor point at minimum before it will display |
22:04.27 | seebs | Ahh, no anchor! I was stripping everything I didn't know that I needed, because I'm remaking this from a much larger addon. |
22:04.46 | Xuerian | easier to do this in lua.... |
22:04.48 | Xuerian | >_> |
22:04.58 | seebs | Is it? |
22:05.08 | seebs | I wouldn't at all mind writing my frame initialization all in Lua. |
22:05.15 | Furl | ~lart XML in certain situations |
22:05.15 | purl | whacks XML in certain situations with the cluebat |
22:05.35 | seebs | I just didn't see how to set frame attributes like size and such from lua. |
22:06.03 | Xinhuan | seebs: http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=3466160306&sid=1 read last post |
22:06.22 | Xinhuan | and 2nd last post |
22:06.33 | Furl | Dude |
22:06.46 | Xuerian | CreateFrame("Frame", "PesterFrame") PesterFrame:SetWidth(800) PesterFrame:SetHeight(650) PesterFrame:SetPoint("CENTER", UIParent, "CENTER"), etc |
22:06.53 | Furl | . . .The file ...php_error.log is too big for notepad. . . . |
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22:07.18 | seebs | Oh-hoh! Thank you. |
22:07.22 | seebs | That is SO much nicer. |
22:07.32 | Xinhuan | read the link still ;p |
22:08.15 | seebs | Am skimming it for a first pass. Looks VERY much better than touching XML for anything other than the non-visible frame that will be used to call my OnLoad. |
22:08.47 | Xinhuan | basically, i suggested using purl lua instead of his xml |
22:08.49 | Rayne | Sad but bright days are upon us. |
22:08.50 | Rayne | http://www.gametrailers.com/player/29074.html |
22:08.53 | Xinhuan | and gave reasons why |
22:09.02 | Xinhuan | pure* |
22:09.16 | Xuerian | It's a lie, Rayne, IT'S A LIE |
22:09.53 | zenzelezz | Rayne: that proves nothing. We've had screenshots before, now a video... I'll believe it when I see the game |
22:11.10 | Shirik|AFK | the cake is a lie |
22:11.35 | zenzelezz | there's no use crying over every mistake, you just keep on trying until you run out of cake |
22:12.14 | godzirra | Hm... whats a good shaman totem bar? |
22:12.44 | Furl | Woooooooooooood |
22:12.56 | Furl | [Forgot an o] |
22:13.20 | Xuerian | godzirra: Autobar works decently if you use the "Druid" bar |
22:13.29 | Xuerian | since someone <cough> hasn't <cough> made <COUGH> a multiclass bar |
22:14.16 | godzirra | Autobar? |
22:14.31 | Xuerian | yes |
22:14.35 | Thunder_Child | yes, autobar |
22:14.39 | Xuerian | But there's dedicated totem mods too |
22:14.44 | Xuerian | Not to mention you can setup flexbar for it |
22:14.55 | Xuerian | And mods like klappa |
22:15.15 | Xuerian | Autobar works just fine till 50 or so |
22:15.24 | godzirra | I know there's a ton of em... |
22:15.30 | godzirra | I wa just curious if anyone could recommend one. ;p |
22:15.35 | Xuerian | lol |
22:15.42 | Xuerian | figure out how to use flexbar |
22:15.49 | NightHawkTheSane | godzirra: imo, a 4x6 block of action buttons. |
22:15.56 | godzirra | lol |
22:16.00 | Xuerian | blocks of actionbuttons for fail |
22:16.05 | Furl | Shamans top warlocks in spells. It's rather nice. |
22:16.08 | NightHawkTheSane | it works perfectly for me. |
22:16.14 | Xuerian | FAIL |
22:16.25 | Furl | Lawl |
22:16.57 | NightHawkTheSane | why? I have every (useful) totem in an easy to access place, organized by element, and a set of keybinds to access a most-used one for each element. i need nothing more. :P |
22:17.35 | Furl | Nighthawk: That's what I have set up for my shaman, [similar atleast. For now, leveling, I've merged my air & healing bars] |
22:18.23 | NightHawkTheSane | this is how it looks on my current UI, to be sure: http://www.asylumsw.com/misc/keribdis_ui.jpeg |
22:18.29 | godzirra | I'll just search curse for totem bars. ;p |
22:18.47 | Furl | Night: Weird. |
22:19.03 | Furl | I bind everything. |
22:19.08 | Furl | Absolutely everything |
22:19.12 | Rayne | zenzelezz: You just reminded me |
22:19.13 | Lunessa | godzirra: I use YATA from wowace for mine. |
22:19.15 | NightHawkTheSane | feh, too many totems to bind them all ;) |
22:19.17 | Rayne | Last night in trade chat |
22:19.21 | Furl | Nope. |
22:19.25 | Rayne | I got like 4 people singing that song |
22:19.32 | Rayne | I think I have it screenshotted too |
22:19.33 | NightHawkTheSane | and its not like you need fast-hot-key-access to stoneskin or nature resistence totem :P |
22:19.40 | Furl | I never like to click. |
22:19.55 | Furl | Stoneskin can be useful... sometimes... mainly with gnomes. |
22:19.58 | Xuerian | http://i3.tinypic.com/8c2to29.png |
22:20.02 | Lunessa | Most of my totems are macroed into sets. |
22:20.18 | godzirra | NightHawkTheSane: I am envious of your clean UI. |
22:20.23 | godzirra | although I guess mines not bad... |
22:20.31 | NightHawkTheSane | Neither do I, which is why i have the left-most button in each row of that block bound. i move the totem i want to use there for easy access :) |
22:20.57 | Furl | I don't understand how people can leave stuff unbound, lol. |
22:21.09 | Furl | Apart from uselessness |
22:21.13 | godzirra | mouse ftl. |
22:21.13 | Furl | Mind you |
22:21.18 | godzirra | I wish there was a way to loot withotu the mouse. |
22:21.20 | godzirra | Then I'd be set. |
22:21.27 | Tem | PvP Opinion time! |
22:21.31 | Furl | [Bartender ftl] |
22:21.37 | Tem | I have 1200 arena points |
22:21.41 | godzirra | Lunessa: I'm looking it up. |
22:21.43 | Tem | this is my gear |
22:21.43 | Tem | http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Garona&n=Temaile |
22:21.52 | Tem | do I buy S3 gloves or S3 wand? |
22:22.00 | Xuerian | I'd have my totems in macroed sets if I wasn't lazy |
22:22.04 | Lunessa | For example, I have Strength of Earth and Grace of Air in one button, while in another I have Windfury Totem, Strength of Earth, and Healing Stream. I have 4 macros to cover most of my needs, and then click buttons from YATA for the rest. |
22:22.05 | foxlit | slooow armory! |
22:22.06 | Josh_Borke | gloves |
22:22.08 | NightHawkTheSane | Furl: because I don't care to remember binds for things that have extremely situational or out-of-combat-use only |
22:22.09 | Furl | gloves |
22:22.22 | godzirra | Lunessa: that looks like exactyl what I want... thanks. ;) |
22:22.26 | NightHawkTheSane | hm, that sentence sucked. but you get the gist |
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22:22.43 | Tem | why gloves? |
22:22.49 | foxlit | wand! |
22:22.50 | Tem | the wand is a huge statistical upgrade |
22:23.01 | foxlit | you already have arena gloves, tbh |
22:23.08 | Tem | but the S3 gloves have a new bonus |
22:23.14 | Furl | right |
22:23.17 | Tem | 50% spell pushback resist to sheep |
22:23.20 | Tem | which is pretty big |
22:24.29 | Josh_Borke | tem: because G comes before W |
22:24.35 | Josh_Borke | first in line is the best |
22:24.46 | kamdis | LOL my coworkers gave me this for my birthday http://www.cafepress.com/buy//-/pv_design_prod/pg_1/p_storeid.87791908/pNo_87791908/id_15795202/opt_/fpt_za____hph_____d__b__b___b/c_672/ |
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22:25.18 | kamdis | or this link: http://tinyurl.com/29k644 |
22:25.49 | Lunessa | So you work with WoW Geeks? |
22:25.54 | kamdis | no, not at all |
22:26.04 | kamdis | they just know I am and one has a son who plays |
22:26.14 | kamdis | said son picked it out |
22:27.01 | foxlit | lua> 3600*6; |
22:27.02 | lua_bot | foxlit: 21600 |
22:27.57 | Xuerian | foxlit: Get Launchy and stop doing your math here. |
22:27.57 | Xuerian | lol |
22:27.59 | Tem | kamdis, my coworker got me http://www.blizzard.com/market/wowcalendar-daily.shtml because he saw it in the store and couldn't resist |
22:28.16 | foxlit | Not running windows |
22:28.26 | foxlit | Technically, it was trivial to type it into spotlight |
22:28.31 | foxlit | but this textbox was closer |
22:28.33 | Xuerian | foxlit: Then use the gnome launcher or kicker or quicksilver |
22:28.46 | Josh_Borke | welp, time to go home |
22:28.47 | Josh_Borke | night all |
22:28.50 | Xuerian | 'night jb |
22:29.14 | foxlit | (hint: spotlight is there by default) |
22:29.24 | Xuerian | can you bind it to a key? |
22:29.30 | Dreagar | is there a function that returns the current continent? |
22:29.32 | Tem | so, I weighing +14 int, -1 stam, +2 spell damage, +14 resilience against +4 stam, -2 int, +0 resil, +2 crit rating and the new bonus |
22:29.45 | Tem | HOWEVER, in gaining that bonus, I lose my old bonus |
22:29.50 | Tem | which I <3 |
22:30.03 | foxlit | maybe, but why would you? :) |
22:30.25 | Tem | true, it's no where near as badass as the rogue bonus |
22:30.37 | Xuerian | foxlit: Well, is spotlight the launcher or is quicksilver? (Along with being so many other things, apparently) |
22:30.44 | Tem | but having a 31yard fireblast is quite nice |
22:31.09 | foxlit | Xuerian: spotlight is the indexing service. |
22:31.23 | Xuerian | foxlit: Well, bind whatever launches programs/does math to say, option-space |
22:31.24 | foxlit | Tem: personally, I dislike partial pushback resistance |
22:31.38 | Xuerian | Instant launching/searching/maths/win |
22:32.03 | Tem | foxlit, I'm not 100% sold on it either, but having a sheep not go off when it's real important because the fucking pet is in your face makes me angry |
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22:32.22 | foxlit | Leaves a bad taste when wrath, supposingly 75% not subject to interruptions, gets pushed back for more than twice its cast time |
22:33.08 | foxlit | Meh, option space is the keyboard layout switch |
22:33.24 | foxlit | Anyway, it's trivial now, just reach for whatever is closer :P |
22:33.48 | foxlit | dashboard calculator is also a hotkey away |
22:34.20 | Tem | anyway, I bought the wand |
22:34.28 | Tem | I couldn't resist being like 6 resil short of 400 |
22:34.48 | kamdis | Tem: that calendar is awesome :) |
22:35.07 | Tem | I'm a little disappointed that they used mostly wow classic items |
22:35.14 | Tem | there are very few BC items posted |
22:38.37 | foxlit | Paladins are annoying |
22:38.50 | foxlit | Probably the only class I can't mitigate easily :( |
22:38.51 | seebs | Is there a Plain Flat White (or plain flat black) texture I can use if I don't want a texture, but want something to be opaque? |
22:39.42 | Shirik|AFK | eh |
22:39.49 | Shirik|AFK | can't you just make one? :) |
22:40.01 | Shirik|AFK | there probably is but it should take you all of like 5 seconds to make one |
22:40.25 | seebs | Yeah, but I don't want to include a graphics file with an addon that has no graphics. It just seems wrong! |
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22:44.46 | Shirik|AFK | lol so I'm talking to somebody whose flight was cancelled |
22:44.50 | Shirik|AFK | they booked him for another flight |
22:45.03 | Shirik|AFK | then they announced that they lost that plane |
22:45.07 | Shirik|AFK | yes, "lost" |
22:45.10 | Xinhuan | lost a plane?? |
22:45.11 | Shirik|AFK | Not quite sure what that means |
22:45.14 | Shirik|AFK | but they lost it |
22:45.25 | Shirik|AFK | and yes, it was on the ground supposedly |
22:45.28 | Thunder_Child | i think they meant the use of |
22:46.56 | Lunessa | ... Hey, I'm not sure I want to get on a plane if the airline loses them. I mean, what if they run out of lemon-scented wet napkins? |
22:47.13 | Lunessa | How will we survive? |
22:47.37 | seebs | I have an old line in my previous gui that inserted my frame into a table called "UISpecialFrames". What does that do? |
22:47.57 | Thunder_Child | Lunessa, no need for em any more, you dont get any food |
22:48.07 | Xinhuan | it makes that frame close on pressing ESC |
22:50.45 | Xinhuan | more specifically, pressing ESC makes the default UI HideUIPanel() all the frames in "UISpecialFrames" |
22:50.51 | Xinhuan | which calls :Hide() anyway |
22:53.07 | seebs | Ahh. |
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22:54.50 | Rayne | O_o |
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22:55.06 | Daede | sup pl |
22:55.11 | Daede | ppl* |
22:55.16 | Daede | ~emulate daede |
22:55.17 | purl | ACTION farted.. |
22:55.23 | Daede | purl say excuse me |
22:55.24 | purl | excuse me |
22:55.28 | Daede | ~botsnack |
22:55.28 | purl | aw, gee, Daede |
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22:56.39 | seebs | Hmm. |
22:58.05 | Daede | someone push me through queue please |
23:00.14 | Rayne | ~throatpunch |
23:00.16 | purl | ACTION punches rayne in the throat. |
23:00.32 | Daede | purl sucks |
23:00.32 | purl | only if you ask nicely and pay well. |
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23:03.13 | Daede | Ladies & Gents, DaedeUI v2.0.0 http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info7826-DaedeUI.html |
23:04.38 | dylanm | This file is currently awaiting approval from a file admin. |
23:04.51 | Daede | hmm? funy i can see it |
23:04.58 | Daede | prolly cuz its mine |
23:05.02 | seebs | If I have a frame, G, and a new frame, f, should f:SetAllPoints(G) change the size of G? |
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23:06.21 | seebs | Oh! . vs : |
23:06.31 | seebs | I'm so out of practice. |
23:06.44 | Daede | im hungry |
23:06.46 | Daede | peace |
23:07.17 | Thunder_Child | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YG5qDeWHNmk&eurl=http://www.joystiq.com/2007/12/16/a-very-jenga-esque-crysis-physics-demonstration |
23:07.54 | Xuerian | Agh so many buttons |
23:09.12 | Cide | sigh |
23:09.15 | Cide | why? to each their own |
23:09.41 | Rayne | kamdis: poke! |
23:09.57 | JoshBorke | cladhaire: the buttons don't do anything... |
23:10.12 | cladhaire | JoshBorke: .. as i said. |
23:10.15 | cladhaire | the run script button does. |
23:10.17 | kamdis | Rayne: what's up? |
23:10.47 | JoshBorke | kk |
23:11.06 | Xuerian | Cide: lol. Because <I> don't like that many buttons. Would I joke like that if you didn't like them, but I did? That's exactly what I'm doing, expressing my opinion |
23:11.21 | Cide | yeah, well your opinion sucks |
23:11.32 | seebs | Hey, can I do the Blizzard tab UI magic with created frames? |
23:12.11 | Xuerian | Cide: Right back at ya, buddy |
23:12.29 | Cide | that was my opinion |
23:12.46 | Xuerian | You seem to grasp my point quite well. :) |
23:13.11 | Cide | if it was a joke, sure, but it was a pretty stupid remark :P |
23:13.20 | Xinhuan | you would need to inherit from blizzard templates |
23:13.25 | Lunessa | Opinions are like assholes. Everyone has one. And they all stink. |
23:13.32 | Cide | but I'm a boring, synical bastard |
23:13.36 | Xinhuan | and study the default UI a few hours ;p |
23:13.39 | Cide | s/s/c/ |
23:13.49 | Xuerian | lol Lunessa |
23:18.18 | Tem | ew |
23:18.24 | Tem | holes in button rows annoy me |
23:18.29 | Tem | it's messy looking |
23:18.44 | Tem | also, fubar is information overload |
23:18.51 | Tem | no one needs that much info all the time |
23:19.08 | Xuerian | Would be ok on auto-hide |
23:19.46 | seebs | Hmm. CreateFrame("FontString", ...) doesn't work. What kind of frame do I specify to make a fontstring? |
23:21.32 | seebs | Ahh! CreateFontString. |
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23:24.55 | Furl | I am making perhaps |
23:25.02 | Furl | Some of the dirtiet code ever |
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23:26.11 | Dreagar | is there a function that will return the loc of a click on the worldmap? |
23:26.18 | Lunessa | Furl: It dresses up in lingerie and asks to be punished? |
23:29.18 | Thunder_Child | http://gizmodo.com/335905/the-10-steps-to-dealing-with-a-broken-light-bulb-according-to-the-uk-government |
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23:46.06 | Intangir | i need a BLP converter again |
23:46.09 | Intangir | i seem to have lost the one i had.. |
23:46.10 | Lunessa | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AIfC_1Xav7c oy, Van Damme as a troll.. |
23:47.07 | foxlit | ~blp |
23:47.07 | purl | somebody said blp was the abbreviation for Blizzard Map, a graphical file format created and used by blizzard for nearly all of WoW's textures. It's very similar to png. |
23:47.20 | foxlit | It is not very similar to PNG. |
23:47.29 | testleK | anyone else have issues witht the auction hall closed event firing twice when leaving the AH in wow? |
23:47.30 | foxlit | http://vector.digifort.com/blp.php |
23:47.34 | foxlit | use that :) |
23:48.35 | foxlit | purl, no, blp is the abbreviation for Blizzard Picture, a graphical file format created and used by blizzard for nearly all of WC3 and WoW textures. |
23:48.36 | purl | foxlit: okay |
23:49.29 | Thunder_Child | woah |
23:49.58 | Thunder_Child | you know that link didnt look as long in my browser,,, |
23:50.04 | Thunder_Child | s/,,,/.../ |
23:51.05 | foxlit | what browser is that? |
23:51.10 | Thunder_Child | FF |
23:51.24 | Thunder_Child | it simply didnt show it all |
23:51.29 | Thunder_Child | i was making a joke |
23:56.03 | seebs | Is there a list somewhere of what the edgefiles are for the various built-in interfaces? |