| 00:00.46 | Rayne | eePanels is giving me an error on my Hunter, and ive cleared my variables and updated it. I dont want to purge it from my full WTF :/ |
| 00:02.29 | Rayne | http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v442/SinOfDreams/WoWScrnShot_121007_185927.jpg Heres the SS :/ Also the WIP on my huntard |
| 00:02.59 | Tem | Rayne, so don't use eepanales |
| 00:03.13 | Tem | honestly, it's easier to just make your own damn frames |
| 00:03.52 | art3mis | my super awesomely fav bug in WAU was it deciding to rm the eep2 directory first thus taking with it all my graphics |
| 00:05.00 | Shirik | line 1876? |
| 00:05.12 | Shirik | wtf is eepanels doing? Drawing every pixel? |
| 00:05.20 | Shirik | how could something so simple need that many locs... |
| 00:05.37 | Tem | Shirik, it's the Ace2 way |
| 00:05.52 | Tem | overcomplicate everything so that it becomes 2k lines |
| 00:06.04 | Shirik | ah, if it's under 2k lines it's not good enough? |
| 00:06.08 | Tem | yep |
| 00:06.11 | Shirik | ok |
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| 00:07.38 | Tem | also, "core.lua" is evil |
| 00:07.46 | Tem | I blame tekkub for that |
| 00:07.56 | Tem | or maybe rowne |
| 00:07.58 | Tem | dunno |
| 00:08.07 | Tem | one is just an extension of the other in my head |
| 00:08.46 | sioraiocht | aww, all the north americans are on |
| 00:08.53 | sioraiocht | am I the only euro left? |
| 00:08.57 | Rayne | omfg |
| 00:08.58 | [dRaCo] | nope. |
| 00:08.59 | Rayne | I give up |
| 00:09.00 | sioraiocht | hehe |
| 00:09.07 | Rayne | why it WILL not work is beyond me |
| 00:09.09 | Tem | Rayne, just make your own frames |
| 00:09.14 | Tem | srsly |
| 00:09.17 | Tem | CreateFrame |
| 00:09.20 | Tem | not hard |
| 00:09.35 | Rayne | not what I meant |
| 00:09.52 | Rayne | it wont stop copying my layouts from my warrior to my hunter, no matter what I do. |
| 00:10.02 | kergoth | core.lua is a bit much, i like addon.lua though, avoids repeating the addon name unnecessarily, and implies that hte main event handling frames and such are there |
| 00:11.22 | Rayne | I even pasted in a second set of luas and configs and it reverts it to the BBC Layout every time. |
| 00:11.58 | Rayne | >_< |
| 00:12.25 | Tem | make your own frames |
| 00:12.38 | Tem | you can most likely do whatever you want in <100 lines |
| 00:12.48 | Tem | where eep is aparely 1400+ lines |
| 00:13.07 | Tem | apparently* |
| 00:13.12 | Rayne | ... |
| 00:13.24 | Rayne | I also meant for the rest of the UI |
| 00:13.36 | Rayne | PitBull, Omen, everything reverts. |
| 00:13.40 | Tem | on lawl |
| 00:13.48 | Tem | poor design in acedb is to blame |
| 00:14.06 | Tem | s/on/oh/ |
| 00:15.37 | Rayne | I suppose youre going to tell me I should use X-Perl too? |
| 00:15.57 | Wobwork | ag_unitframes? |
| 00:20.04 | Rayne | Kelfarr: you awake? |
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| 00:20.26 | Kelfarr | yes |
| 00:20.40 | Rayne | Any idea why my UI is being a tard? |
| 00:20.54 | Kelfarr | whats wrong |
| 00:20.56 | Rayne | not saving diff settings, ect |
| 00:21.04 | [dRaCo] | write protection? |
| 00:23.47 | Rayne | Basicly, I started building the UI on my hunter. I went back to Rayne, all my BBC settings were there. Went back to my hunter, it reverted back except my chat box. |
| 00:24.02 | Kelfarr | that sucks |
| 00:24.24 | Rayne | dont know why either. Doesnt really make sense. |
| 00:24.31 | Rayne | Never had this problem before |
| 00:26.48 | Shirik|AFK | qq |
| 00:26.56 | Shirik|AFK | I finally figured out why I couldn't install QNX |
| 00:27.01 | Shirik|AFK | Downloading the wrong CD ftl |
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| 00:44.55 | JoshBorke | lol |
| 00:46.48 | Rayne | -_- fucking hell |
| 00:46.56 | Rayne | I was working on that for awhile and it just erased it... |
| 00:47.38 | Wobwork | http://blamebrampton.livejournal.com/10530.html |
| 00:47.41 | Wobwork | this is sage advice |
| 00:50.04 | Mr_Rabies2 | ahh |
| 00:50.15 | Mr_Rabies2 | https://worldofwarcraft.com seems to be broken |
| 00:50.21 | Mr_Rabies2 | broken for anyone else |
| 00:50.27 | Mr_Rabies2 | ? |
| 00:50.42 | batrick | i hear the aussies are DOSing them lolz |
| 00:51.44 | Mr_Rabies2 | how can they do that |
| 00:51.58 | Mr_Rabies2 | is there enough bandwidth in all of australia to do that |
| 00:52.20 | art3mis | yeah it's called a DoSWP |
| 00:52.31 | art3mis | Denial of Service with porpoises |
| 00:54.16 | Wobwork | not any more =( |
| 00:54.27 | Wobwork | we lost half our pipe earlier last week |
| 00:54.33 | Wobwork | I dunno if they've fixed it |
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| 01:02.44 | art3mis | Wobwork: they're using wallabees for land transfer i hear ;P |
| 01:02.56 | art3mis | the wombats were dropping packets left and right |
| 01:03.33 | Wobwork | damn wombats |
| 01:04.42 | Wobwork | I told them the marsupial transport protocol required more mobile packets |
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| 01:20.04 | Legorol | morning |
| 01:20.38 | Legorol | i had an interesting complaint about ctra from a guild mate of mine, he claims that the "Group X" labels above some of hte groups he has pulled out onto the screen spontaneously and randomly disappear/reappear |
| 01:20.44 | Legorol | has anyone heard anything like this? |
| 01:20.53 | Shirik|AFK | I heard about it |
| 01:20.55 | Legorol | the actual unitframes are still there, it's just the label that's missing |
| 01:21.00 | Shirik|AFK | someone said it around 20:20 |
| 01:21.18 | Legorol | it's supposedly recent |
| 01:21.25 | Legorol | ok, i see, so he is not alone |
| 01:21.32 | Shirik|AFK | Legorol didn't get the joke |
| 01:21.37 | Shirik|AFK | but no I haven't heard anything about it |
| 01:21.57 | Legorol | no i didn't get the joke.. explain : |
| 01:21.58 | Legorol | :D |
| 01:22.26 | Wobwork | Where 20:20 is where you asked the original question |
| 01:22.29 | Shirik | 14(2011:2011:4614) 14(11+15Legorol14) i had an interesting complaint about ctra from a guild mate of mine, he claims that the "Group X" labels above some of hte groups he has pulled out onto the screen spontaneously and randomly disappear/reappear |
| 01:22.30 | Wobwork | thus he 'heard' it then |
| 01:22.39 | Wobwork | pretty lame as jokes go =P |
| 01:22.47 | Wobwork | since it's timezone dependant =P |
| 01:23.04 | Wobwork | ~lart Shirik |
| 01:23.04 | purl | takes out a cattle prod and gives Shirik a good jolt |
| 01:23.06 | Shirik | The rest of the world should conform to the better 24th of the world |
| 01:23.07 | Shirik | anyway |
| 01:23.16 | Legorol | yup, that's lartworthy |
| 01:23.23 | Legorol | as i'm in a different timezone... hence why i missed it |
| 01:23.43 | Shirik | If you were smart enough to use EST you would have gotten it |
| 01:23.45 | Shirik | not my problem /shrug |
| 01:23.49 | Wobwork | I was looking at a visual reference |
| 01:23.51 | Legorol | Shirik: you might want to start by making north america unified first ;-) |
| 01:23.58 | Shirik | Well we were |
| 01:23.59 | Wobwork | since I guessed it was about 20/20 vision or something |
| 01:24.00 | Shirik | then Bush came along |
| 01:24.14 | Shirik | now we all hate each other |
| 01:24.18 | Legorol | lol |
| 01:24.42 | NightHawkTheSane | hey, I always hated everyone. >.> |
| 01:25.05 | Wobwork | That's cause you're a grumpy bastard |
| 01:25.14 | NightHawkTheSane | oh, right.. |
| 01:25.45 | Wobwork | And if it weren't for those pesky kids, you'd have gotten away with it |
| 01:27.17 | NightHawkTheSane | no.. i'm too lazy to really get away with anything |
| 01:32.52 | Shirik | Well that's a new one... |
| 01:33.02 | Shirik | HTTP 1.1/406 Not Acceptable |
| 01:33.03 | Shirik | ?? |
| 01:36.43 | Kaso | Shirik, the server wants to send something which is not in your Accept* headers |
| 01:36.53 | Shirik | ah |
| 01:36.55 | Shirik | wierd |
| 01:37.22 | Kaso | What was the request packet that triggered it? |
| 01:40.26 | Kaso | what the crap is RUTABAGA ? |
| 01:42.38 | Shirik | Kaso: Dunno, it was just a website |
| 01:42.41 | Shirik | it's working now anyway |
| 01:42.53 | Wobwork | It's a root vegetable |
| 01:43.01 | Wobwork | Commonly grown in Sendar |
| 01:43.14 | Kaso | * Received a CTCP RUTABAGA from ... |
| 01:43.39 | Wobwork | You've been rooted |
| 01:43.54 | Shirik | rofl |
| 01:44.16 | Kaso | oh noes! tomatoes! |
| 01:44.40 | Shirik | that is a great root password |
| 01:44.43 | Shirik | might have to try that |
| 01:44.47 | Shirik | user: root |
| 01:44.50 | Shirik | pass: rutabaga |
| 01:47.21 | Kaso | surely using a password you just transmitted to a public channel wouldnt be too good an idea |
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| 01:47.31 | Shirik | it's on an embedded system |
| 01:47.37 | Shirik | I would love to see you hack something not connected to the internet |
| 01:47.45 | Shirik | We were debating over root passwords for it |
| 01:47.48 | Shirik | we eventually ended up with ~ |
| 01:47.53 | Kaso | haha |
| 01:48.10 | Wobwork | That can't be easily read from a keyboard stroke, not at all =P |
| 01:48.14 | Shirik | I got my $0.02 in, its name is "johnny5" |
| 01:48.25 | Wobwork | Is it alive? |
| 01:48.29 | Shirik | that's my goal :P |
| 01:48.37 | Shirik | it's an autonomous vehicle |
| 01:48.41 | Kaso | Where is this system embedded exactly? is it's physical location secure? if not then might as well consider it as public as something connected to the internet |
| 01:48.41 | Wobwork | Should have named it Hex |
| 01:49.08 | Shirik | well only 3 people, including myself, have access to the room |
| 01:49.12 | Shirik | beyond that, it's in a locked safe |
| 01:49.14 | Shirik | is that good enough? |
| 01:49.24 | Shirik | maybe not a "safe" but something along those lines |
| 01:49.26 | Shirik | I don't know what to call it |
| 01:49.54 | Kaso | ok maybe i'll let you off this time! |
| 01:50.03 | Shirik | =P |
| 01:50.17 | Shirik | lua> getnames("rutabag") |
| 01:50.17 | lua_bot | Shirik: rutabah, rutabai, rutabaj, rutabak, rutabal, rutabam, rutaban, rutabao, rutabap, rutabaq, rutabar, rutabas, rutabat, rutabau, rutabav, rutabaw, rutabax, rutabay, rutabaz, rutabba, rutabbe, rutabbi, rutabbo, rutabbu, rutabby, rutabea, rutabeb, rutabec |
| 01:50.29 | Shirik | lua> getnames("rutabaga") |
| 01:50.30 | lua_bot | Shirik: rutabage, rutabagg, rutabagh, rutabagi, rutabagl, rutabago, rutabagu, rutabagy, rutabaha, rutabahe, rutabahi, rutabahk, rutabahl, rutabahm, rutabahn, rutabaho, rutabahr, rutabahu, rutabahy, rutabaib, rutabaic, rutabaid, rutabaif, rutabaig, rutabaih, rutab... (result truncated) |
| 01:50.36 | Shirik | it doesn't like rutabaga =( |
| 01:50.43 | Kaso | what's that function? |
| 01:50.57 | Shirik | supposed to come up with decent names based on a starting point |
| 01:51.19 | Shirik | lua> getnames"Kaso" |
| 01:51.19 | lua_bot | Shirik: Kasp, Kasq, Kass, Kast, Kasu, Kasy, Kata, Kate, Kath, Kati, Kato, Kats, Katt, Katu, Katy, Kaub, Kauc, Kaud, Kauf, Kaug, Kauh, Kauj, Kauk, Kaul, Kaum, Kaun, Kaup, Kauq, Kaur, Kaus, Kaut, Kauv, Kauw, Kaux, Kauy, Kauz, Kava, Kave, Kavh, Kavi, Kavo, Kavr, Kav... (result truncated) |
| 01:51.27 | Shirik | etc. |
| 01:51.30 | Kaso | How does it work? |
| 01:51.35 | Shirik | not a clue |
| 01:51.36 | Shirik | ask clad|sleep |
| 01:56.37 | Kaso | Ha yes it is in a word-list :> |
| 01:56.40 | Kaso | rutabaga that is |
| 02:07.36 | batrick | zzz |
| 02:08.39 | batrick | some script kiddie hacked my server, put an account named "back" on it in the admin group |
| 02:11.39 | Wobwork | password: door |
| 02:11.51 | Wobwork | cause I bet they're original like that |
| 02:12.40 | bleeter | for those who want a horrible startup script for this socat/route/iptables thingie, http://www.bleeter.id.au/wow/wownowait and http://www.bleeter.id.au/wow/wow_realmlist_with_ip *NOTE* written for FC6, ymmv |
| 02:18.11 | bleeter | bah, 'cept I think I broke it :/ |
| 02:20.07 | bleeter | ~moron bleeter |
| 02:23.38 | bleeter | yeah yeah, well.. you can work it out for yourselves :P |
| 02:25.16 | bleeter | on a more lighter note... patch tonight? |
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| 02:32.20 | Wobwork | bleeter: I can has script? |
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| 02:52.58 | bleeter | Wobwork: go for it, I just messed up the deletion of the iptables rule, isn't that hard to fix ;) |
| 02:53.37 | bleeter | Wobwork: tho be warned it uses some Fedora/Redhat supplied subscripts/functions, shouldn't be too hard to replace. Oh, it also uses a nasty invokaction of awk(1)... 'because I could' ;) |
| 02:53.46 | bleeter | invocation... /sigh |
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| 03:09.43 | Wobwork | bleeter: connection timed out =( |
| 03:12.06 | bleeter | bah |
| 03:12.32 | bleeter | hell, 3AM shutdown again... gg blizz, yet another 6/7 nights of play. |
| 03:12.56 | bleeter | if I were blizz, I'd be glad the sandgropers are literally on the other side of the planet. |
| 03:13.06 | bleeter | i'm sure if they were in Cali, they'd be banging on the doors about now ;) |
| 03:14.02 | bleeter | Wobwork: if that don't work now... /shrug |
| 03:14.04 | bleeter | toodles |
| 03:14.11 | Wobwork | If I were in cali, I'd be enjoying my latency |
| 03:14.18 | Wobwork | yay |
| 03:14.20 | Wobwork | works |
| 03:14.23 | bleeter | all I can say is, it better be 2.3.2 |
| 03:14.30 | bleeter | 'coz if it's full maint again next week.. arrgh |
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| 03:18.02 | cogwheel | HOLY SHIT IT'S OVER |
| 03:21.06 | batrick | wut is over |
| 03:21.38 | cogwheel | we made our final submission on the book today \o/ |
| 03:24.58 | batrick | ic |
| 03:25.41 | cogwheel | if we hadn't it would've been delayed a month... |
| 03:25.50 | cogwheel | which would have suckd |
| 03:26.21 | cogwheel | so i've gotten about 5 hours of sleep since friday :P |
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| 03:30.17 | Olison | b r |
| 03:30.18 | MrUseful | Rehashing... |
| 03:38.14 | art3mis | hrm |
| 03:38.29 | art3mis | how come hello kitty xmas edition doesnt show on the front page new and updated? |
| 03:38.50 | Shirik|AFK | was it approved yet? |
| 03:38.55 | art3mis | yup |
| 03:39.03 | art3mis | the cycircled hk xmas is there |
| 03:39.13 | art3mis | and if you click the 100 link it shows it there |
| 03:39.17 | art3mis | just not on the front page |
| 03:39.19 | art3mis | ;( |
| 03:39.22 | Shirik|AFK | obviously they decided your addon sucks |
| 03:39.55 | art3mis | oh i see |
| 03:40.02 | art3mis | it doesnt list compilations |
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| 03:48.11 | Corrodias | oh, dear. i wonder if Recount has yet been revised to reduce raid spam |
| 03:48.30 | Corrodias | i remember reading about a fork on the wowace forum... |
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| 03:59.54 | Thunder_Child | I HAVE RETURNED!! |
| 04:00.23 | Corrodias | OH SHI- |
| 04:01.38 | Thunder_Child | ~returned |
| 04:01.46 | Thunder_Child | ~return |
| 04:01.46 | purl | it has been said that return is not punctuation |
| 04:02.22 | JoshBorke | i shot the sheriff |
| 04:02.30 | cogwheel | NO U |
| 04:03.03 | Thunder_Child | but i didnt shoot the deputiy |
| 04:03.10 | Thunder_Child | now i have that stuck in my head |
| 04:03.13 | Thunder_Child | ~hate JoshBorke |
| 04:03.15 | cogwheel | that's 'cause he doesn't exist |
| 04:03.25 | cogwheel | ain't no such thing as a deputiy |
| 04:03.26 | Shirik | so my printer prints CDs o.o |
| 04:03.29 | Shirik | wtf? |
| 04:03.34 | Thunder_Child | wha? no ~hate? |
| 04:03.38 | Thunder_Child | ~hate |
| 04:03.38 | purl | I hate idiots that just come into a channel to troll. |
| 04:03.45 | cogwheel | HA |
| 04:03.48 | Thunder_Child | ah, no target hate |
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| 04:05.43 | Thunder_Child | whoot, only one more day of class |
| 04:07.07 | Thunder_Child | Then, i wait for class to start again |
| 04:07.39 | Thunder_Child | well mine is on wed |
| 04:07.48 | Thunder_Child | but it's photography... |
| 04:08.51 | Thunder_Child | "The Tauren character model has a larger attack range than other humanoid models; the feral form models do not benefit from this as the feral form is no longer a Tauren. Simply put: when you shapeshift to a smaller form (feral), you will need to get closer in order to attack – this is not a bug." |
| 04:08.56 | Thunder_Child | LOL @ Tauren |
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| 04:10.15 | JoshBorke | hm, is there anyway to obtain a table by it's tostring value? |
| 04:12.00 | cogwheel | nope |
| 04:12.09 | art3mis | a final in photography? |
| 04:12.14 | Thunder_Child | yes |
| 04:12.35 | art3mis | isnt that as mildly retarded as a final in philosophy? |
| 04:12.48 | cogwheel | should be a snap imo |
| 04:12.53 | Thunder_Child | 20 of your best shots aranged in portfolio format and a 50 question test |
| 04:12.55 | Wobwork | ~rimshot |
| 04:12.56 | purl | ba-dum CHH |
| 04:13.08 | art3mis | the portfolio io can understand |
| 04:13.10 | Thunder_Child | s/test/final/ |
| 04:13.11 | Wobwork | "1) Did you take these photos?" |
| 04:13.12 | art3mis | but questions? |
| 04:13.18 | Thunder_Child | technical questions |
| 04:13.32 | Wobwork | Tailored to the portfolio? |
| 04:13.34 | art3mis | "it has a shutter ad you click snapshots with it... what is it?" |
| 04:13.36 | Thunder_Child | nbot |
| 04:13.39 | cogwheel | no |
| 04:13.40 | Thunder_Child | no* |
| 04:13.46 | cogwheel | there's a lot of technical stuff in photography |
| 04:13.49 | Thunder_Child | Field of view |
| 04:13.53 | Thunder_Child | Flash |
| 04:13.55 | Thunder_Child | EV |
| 04:13.57 | art3mis | cog that may be |
| 04:13.58 | Wobwork | What is the apeture if the fov is X? |
| 04:14.05 | art3mis | but alot of the "arts" is subjective |
| 04:14.08 | Thunder_Child | Wobwork, that can be changed |
| 04:14.13 | Thunder_Child | there is no for sure |
| 04:14.17 | Wobwork | but those sorts of questions |
| 04:14.21 | Thunder_Child | kinda |
| 04:14.49 | Wobwork | so disregard any reality behind what I may conjecture |
| 04:14.52 | Thunder_Child | with a scantron so it's true/false or multiple choice |
| 04:14.56 | cogwheel | I don't think it qualifies as jargon if you're using it incorrectly ;) |
| 04:15.07 | Wobwork | Well, I never said I was using it -well- |
| 04:15.10 | cogwheel | :P |
| 04:15.41 | Wobwork | and it's -random- jargon! |
| 04:15.52 | Wobwork | therefore not necessarily even connected to the subject =) |
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| 04:16.10 | cogwheel | HAI MP |
| 04:16.26 | Thunder_Child | still it should be quite fun |
| 04:16.49 | Wobwork | You should fill out the scantron sheet |
| 04:16.52 | Wobwork | Then take a photo of it |
| 04:16.54 | Wobwork | and submit that |
| 04:17.03 | Thunder_Child | ~lart Wobwork |
| 04:17.03 | purl | takes out Wobwork with the trash |
| 04:17.15 | batrick | ~lart purl |
| 04:17.15 | purl | whacks batrick with a giant beaver's tail |
| 04:17.23 | Wobwork | or better yet, take a photo of your neighbour's scantron |
| 04:17.29 | Wobwork | and photoshop your name into the top |
| 04:18.07 | Thunder_Child | all while in class? |
| 04:18.35 | Wobwork | well it's a final, isn't it? |
| 04:18.36 | MentalPower | hey cogwheel |
| 04:18.53 | Thunder_Child | Wobwork, wha? |
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| 04:25.03 | malreth | aperture? fov? |
| 04:25.27 | Wobwork | photography |
| 04:25.39 | Shirik | finally got neutrino installed yey |
| 04:25.45 | malreth | yah... your question was almost a good one, tho |
| 04:25.57 | Shirik | malreth: aperture controls the amoutn of light let into the capture array |
| 04:26.01 | Shirik | be it the film or other device |
| 04:26.21 | Shirik | this, thus, allows you to get a "more focused" or "less focused" picture outside of the actual focal point of the shot |
| 04:26.22 | malreth | i'm an amateur photog... i know |
| 04:26.27 | Shirik | then why did you ask :P |
| 04:26.37 | Wobwork | I would have been more specific, but I had a mind blank when it came to the units used to measure the apeture |
| 04:26.46 | Shirik | f-stop :P |
| 04:26.50 | Wobwork | that's the bunny |
| 04:26.54 | malreth | those two terms together... wobwork was almost in the right ballpark |
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| 04:27.08 | Wobwork | and I have to stop spelling it apeture and put in the 'r' =P |
| 04:27.11 | Shirik | what was the question? I missed it |
| 04:27.32 | Wobwork | It's a science! |
| 04:27.41 | Wobwork | (We do what we must, because we can) |
| 04:27.50 | malreth | he said "What is the apeture if the fov is X? |
| 04:28.01 | malreth | but he followed it up saying he was just using random jargon |
| 04:28.40 | Wobwork | well random in my mind for "Hm, what photography terms that are vaugely related can I toss into a question?" |
| 04:28.45 | Shirik | lol |
| 04:29.08 | malreth | something like what's the dof with a lens of X focal length and Y aperture and Z sensor site size blah blah |
| 04:29.29 | Shirik | Example of wide aperture: http://darkroommaster.deviantart.com/art/May-Flowers-7134349 |
| 04:29.30 | Wobwork | That reminds me of highschool physics |
| 04:29.57 | Wobwork | =( |
| 04:30.17 | Shirik | Example of a narrow aperture: http://darkroommaster.deviantart.com/art/Waterfall-in-the-Rainforest-7132177 |
| 04:30.32 | Shirik | unfortunately that second one didn't come out as well as I had hoped. I needed the shutter speed too high =/ |
| 04:30.46 | Shirik | wtb ISO 3600 film |
| 04:30.48 | malreth | http://flickr.com/photos/fizzboy/502936388/ |
| 04:30.57 | malreth | http://flickr.com/photos/fizzboy/517441647/ |
| 04:31.12 | Thunder_Child | f/8 is not really a small aperature |
| 04:31.12 | Shirik | so.... slow.... mozilla... dying.... |
| 04:31.17 | Shirik | it's not |
| 04:31.19 | Shirik | I wanted it smaller :/ |
| 04:31.21 | malreth | http://flickr.com/photos/fizzboy/500235568/ |
| 04:31.27 | Thunder_Child | i have some with f/36 |
| 04:31.34 | Shirik | let me rephrase: An example of where it should have been small :P |
| 04:32.27 | Shirik | malreth: Is that digital? |
| 04:32.31 | malreth | smaller aperture mean larger dof |
| 04:32.42 | malreth | yah... rebel xti |
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| 04:33.18 | cogwheel | HAI MP |
| 04:33.32 | Shirik | HAI!!! |
| 04:33.33 | cogwheel | /dejavu |
| 04:33.46 | Shirik | hey look we made him come back |
| 04:34.45 | JoshBorke | !api ClampToScreen |
| 04:34.45 | ThraeBot | JoshBorke: Could not find a relevant page. Perhaps you could be so kind as to create one? http://www.wowwiki.com/API_ClampToScreen |
| 04:35.02 | MentalPower | HAI cogwheel |
| 04:35.06 | MentalPower | is that an auto-response to my joining? |
| 04:35.17 | Shirik | 10s delay so I doubt it |
| 04:35.42 | cogwheel | MentalPower: no... i just happened to notice and felt like dejavuing |
| 04:35.47 | cogwheel | i'm weird |
| 04:35.50 | Shirik | JoshBorke: Did you need to know something about it? |
| 04:36.32 | MentalPower | JoshBorke: its a widget function, not an api function |
| 04:36.50 | Shirik | It's also SetClampedToScreen() not ClampToScreen(). |
| 04:36.52 | JoshBorke | there's an api function too |
| 04:36.54 | JoshBorke | thanks shirik |
| 04:37.11 | MentalPower | http://www.wowwiki.com/API_Frame_SetClampedToScreen |
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| 04:40.42 | NightHawkTheSane | pistachios need to make me less thirsty. |
| 04:41.29 | bleeter | NightHawkTheSane: easy solved. give me all your pistachios. they won't make you thirsty then. |
| 04:41.50 | NightHawkTheSane | bleeter: pfft. hell no. :P |
| 04:42.52 | Thunder_Child | ... |
| 04:43.04 | Cairenn | leaving that comment alone |
| 04:43.13 | bleeter | and his nuts? |
| 04:43.25 | NightHawkTheSane | I think those are getting left alone, too. |
| 04:43.30 | Thunder_Child | around here it should be "hordes his nuts" |
| 04:44.43 | bleeter | anyways, macadamia > pistachios |
| 04:45.02 | bleeter | unless yer a dog, I guess |
| 04:45.19 | NightHawkTheSane | macadamia's are okay, never been a huge fan, though. |
| 04:46.47 | Thunder_Child | i like almonds |
| 04:49.07 | bleeter | so we getting patched tonight? |
| 04:49.22 | bleeter | Cairenn: that's 'coz you *are* nuts, and aren't a cannibal :P |
| 04:49.28 | Cairenn | heh |
| 04:50.18 | Thunder_Child | *sigh* i need an avatar |
| 04:50.27 | Wobwork | hm |
| 04:50.40 | Wobwork | I advise making a virgin pregnant |
| 04:51.19 | bleeter | har har |
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| 04:54.04 | dylanm | bleeter: Good point. I love macadamias but I've gotta treat them like nuclear material now that I have a puppy in the house. |
| 04:54.49 | dylanm | http://www.wowinterface.com/forums/showthread.php?t=14013 |
| 04:54.52 | dylanm | Awesome thread. |
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| 05:02.06 | Thunder_Child | hmm..watching planet earth atm.....cant see why it's so popular |
| 05:03.31 | Wobwork | I'm rather fond of it |
| 05:03.42 | Wobwork | I'd be devastated if it were destroyed |
| 05:03.45 | Wobwork | =( |
| 05:03.51 | Thunder_Child | ..... |
| 05:07.11 | Shirik | now I need to find a way to compress these 4 pages (2 pages back and front) into a 3x5 notecard -_- |
| 05:07.35 | NightHawkTheSane | Shirik: i suggest a copier. |
| 05:07.54 | Shirik | That probably wouldn't end up legible |
| 05:08.05 | Shirik | I'm going to try to rewrite them in openoffice and see if it comes out to anything usable |
| 05:08.12 | NightHawkTheSane | ... you should have been more specific then. :P |
| 05:08.44 | Shirik | maybe I should go to the school and write this up, hmm |
| 05:08.58 | Shirik | really don't feel like going to the school at 12AM |
| 05:09.21 | Thunder_Child | emulate windows and run word |
| 05:09.37 | Shirik | eh, I'm in Windows |
| 05:09.42 | Shirik | I just don't have a valid copy of word |
| 05:09.50 | Thunder_Child | so use an invalid copy |
| 05:09.56 | Shirik | I did |
| 05:10.00 | Shirik | it's no longer usable >< |
| 05:10.19 | Thunder_Child | use a proper invalid copy |
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| 05:11.32 | Shirik | OMG |
| 05:11.38 | Shirik | ok, so I went to the wrong mailbox |
| 05:11.41 | Shirik | and the aldor got mad at me |
| 05:11.55 | Shirik | I'm surprised I was able to walk that far without setting off a guard... |
| 05:11.55 | batrick | smashT |
| 05:12.04 | Shirik | nah I just flew away :P |
| 05:12.06 | batrick | what class r u shirik |
| 05:12.11 | Shirik | priest |
| 05:12.15 | Shirik | !c us drenden kimina |
| 05:12.17 | ThraeBot | Shirik: Kimina, Level 70 Blood Elf Priest (20/41/0). 9631 HP; 9195 Mana; 232 mana regen; 95 mp5; 21 spell crit; 21 spell hit; 479 +spell dmg; 1138 +heal; 5.06% dodge; 164 resilience; 24 arcane resist;[[ TBR: 1339 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/2fx6zd ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/2pkb3p ][ Updated: Tue Dec 11 00:13:50 2007 EST ]] |
| 05:12.18 | NightHawkTheSane | which mailbox did you go to? the ones in the banks can be used by anyone :P |
| 05:12.32 | Shirik | the one at the aldor inn |
| 05:12.36 | NightHawkTheSane | ahh |
| 05:12.40 | Shirik | like I was in their rise for a while |
| 05:12.42 | Shirik | I just wasn't paying attention |
| 05:12.45 | Thunder_Child | heh "Don't accept rides from strange men, and remember that all men are strange. ~~~Robin Morgan~~~" |
| 05:12.53 | NightHawkTheSane | well, if you're flying and not actually landed, the guards don't agro |
| 05:13.03 | Rayne | Downloads: 1337 |
| 05:13.06 | Rayne | awww yeah |
| 05:13.06 | Shirik | I do, however, like what the guard said to me when I got to the mailbox |
| 05:13.07 | Rayne | lol |
| 05:13.15 | Shirik | "Aldor Vindicator says: " |
| 05:13.28 | NightHawkTheSane | Shirik: hah, he sure told you. |
| 05:13.47 | Thunder_Child | anyone know what kind of bird this is? http://thunder-child.deviantart.com/art/Bird-in-Flight-71856970 |
| 05:13.56 | Thunder_Child | doesnt look like a seagull to me |
| 05:14.04 | Wobwork | seag... |
| 05:14.04 | art3mis | it is |
| 05:14.20 | art3mis | its a real sea gull though |
| 05:14.26 | art3mis | not garbage city gull ;P |
| 05:14.52 | Taeri | how can that not look like a seagull? :P |
| 05:14.54 | Wobwork | yeah, was about to say, that it -does- look like a seagull to me =) |
| 05:15.10 | Wobwork | head and beak are reminiscent |
| 05:15.18 | art3mis | TC has a photographers eye, he sees things we cant piossibly imagine ;P |
| 05:15.35 | JoshBorke | nn |
| 05:15.42 | Thunder_Child | night JoshBorke |
| 05:15.56 | Shirik | Thunder_Child is a nutcase imo |
| 05:15.56 | Thunder_Child | because i was comaring it to the other seagulls around...and it didnt look like them |
| 05:15.59 | Shirik | <3 Thunder_Child |
| 05:16.01 | Thunder_Child | well that to |
| 05:16.04 | Thunder_Child | too* |
| 05:16.14 | Shirik | but that looks like a seagull to me |
| 05:16.18 | Thunder_Child | i am a nutcase...i hold 2 of them |
| 05:16.19 | Shirik | where do you live? |
| 05:16.24 | Thunder_Child | Los Angeles |
| 05:16.42 | Thunder_Child | takes me an hour by bus to get down to the beach |
| 05:16.49 | Shirik | I don't know if you guys have different kinds of seagulls than us or something :P |
| 05:16.51 | Thunder_Child | quick quick |
| 05:16.52 | bleeter | you're prolly got.. |
| 05:16.53 | Shirik | but it looks like ours :) |
| 05:16.57 | bleeter | yeah, multiple species |
| 05:17.06 | Shirik | it has that wierd kinda bulging head |
| 05:17.13 | Shirik | and extruded chest |
| 05:17.19 | Wobwork | maybe it's a tumor =P |
| 05:17.29 | Thunder_Child | but it looked solid brown when it landed, not black/white like normal ones |
| 05:17.37 | Shirik | yeah can't tell the colors in that picture |
| 05:17.41 | Shirik | maybe it was really really dirty |
| 05:17.44 | Wobwork | dirty bird? |
| 05:17.50 | bleeter | word |
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| 05:18.42 | bleeter | Thunder_Child: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seagull#Gallery |
| 05:19.03 | bleeter | ^^ nsfw, has pic of gulls mating |
| 05:19.19 | bleeter | and someone might mistake them for shagging shags |
| 05:19.22 | NightHawkTheSane | hawt |
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| 05:19.34 | Thunder_Child | hold on uploading a pic of more of them and you can see the color difference then |
| 05:20.20 | Shirik | wierd |
| 05:20.23 | Shirik | bleeter, no pics for me |
| 05:20.30 | Shirik | must be some kind of filter on my computer :D |
| 05:23.34 | Thunder_Child | here http://thunder-child.deviantart.com/art/Seagulls-71858862 |
| 05:23.38 | Thunder_Child | see, brown birds |
| 05:24.29 | Thunder_Child | that or i i cant see |
| 05:24.37 | Thunder_Child | s/i// |
| 05:24.55 | Taeri | the brown ones are babyseagulls |
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| 05:25.16 | Shirik | wtb filtering on the backdrop |
| 05:25.36 | Thunder_Child | i cant really choose when to get them in flight |
| 05:26.00 | Shirik | actually I think the picture's just underexposed |
| 05:26.06 | Duman | why do so many people have issues with haste (be it melee or spell) |
| 05:26.08 | Shirik | oh well, not every picture comes out perfect |
| 05:26.16 | Duman | s/with/understanding/ |
| 05:26.17 | Shirik | in fact no picture comes out perfect :P |
| 05:26.37 | Thunder_Child | Shirik, 1/2000 is not underexposed |
| 05:26.46 | Thunder_Child | not in this case anyways |
| 05:26.52 | Duman | all depends on the light |
| 05:27.14 | Thunder_Child | damn...histogram says yes... |
| 05:27.26 | Shirik | most of the birds, imho, don't have any shades, just white or black. And the background is a bit dark. |
| 05:27.35 | Shirik | Just a guess though, I'm not saying the picture's bad by any means :) |
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| 05:28.04 | |Jelly| | Shirik: Ping? |
| 05:28.05 | Thunder_Child | tbh i wouldnt really care if you did |
| 05:28.09 | Shirik | hai |
| 05:28.15 | Thunder_Child | it was a snap shot |
| 05:28.37 | Thunder_Child | but i dont like to "fix" my pictures |
| 05:29.35 | Shirik | I totally agree |
| 05:29.55 | Shirik | anyway, I gotta run |
| 05:29.57 | Shirik | have fun |
| 05:30.07 | Thunder_Child | laters Shirik|AFK |
| 05:30.10 | Cairenn | later Shirik|AFK |
| 05:30.26 | Cairenn | damn you Thunder_Child, get out of my brain! |
| 05:30.46 | Thunder_Child | i would....but its just so damn interesting in here |
| 05:31.05 | Thunder_Child | and i hevent even checked what was swept under the rug |
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| 05:31.17 | Cairenn | heh |
| 05:32.01 | bleeter | oh my, I just managed to crash socat :/ |
| 05:32.26 | MentalPower | socat? |
| 05:32.32 | Wobwork | I did that =\ |
| 05:32.38 | Rayne | hmmm |
| 05:32.40 | Wobwork | bleeter: I couldn't get it working last night |
| 05:32.50 | Wobwork | bleeter: for some reason, my iptables redirect wasn't |
| 05:33.00 | Rayne | I hate to say it, but I think the only way I can work on my new UI is if I copy my WTF to my desktop and start a build with the new one. |
| 05:34.19 | Rayne | For whatever reason my LUAs are being tards. |
| 05:34.45 | MentalPower | ~lua |
| 05:34.46 | purl | Lua is a powerful light-weight programming language designed for extending applications. It is often used as a configuration language. See http://www.lua.org/. Note: Lua is not an acronym its a word in Portuguese that means "moon". |
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| 06:02.03 | Cairenn | night guys |
| 06:02.14 | MentalPower | night Cair |
| 06:02.19 | |Jelly| | Night |
| 06:02.49 | Thunder_Child | night Cairenn|afk (no love) |
| 06:02.56 | Cairenn|afk | :( |
| 06:03.04 | malreth | you should feel the DEVOTION!!#! |
| 06:03.18 | Thunder_Child | meh, i cant stand people crying |
| 06:03.21 | Thunder_Child | ~love Cairenn|afk |
| 06:03.21 | purl | If you love Cairenn|afk so much, why don't you marry it? (oooooh) |
| 06:03.28 | Thunder_Child | err... |
| 06:03.32 | malreth | hahahah!!! |
| 06:03.32 | Thunder_Child | not what i had in mind |
| 06:03.42 | Cairenn|afk | lol |
| 06:03.46 | Cairenn|afk | night guys ;) |
| 06:06.15 | bleeter | gnight Cairenn|afk, rest well mate |
| 06:07.15 | Thunder_Child | g'day mate! |
| 06:07.47 | bleeter | you can spell it, but I bet you still sound weird saying it |
| 06:08.07 | Thunder_Child | i can do a reasonable ausie |
| 06:08.13 | Thunder_Child | i can do a really good irish though |
| 06:08.23 | MentalPower | gnight all |
| 06:08.28 | bleeter | Thunder_Child: kerryman? |
| 06:08.34 | bleeter | MentalPower: ain't you already gone?! :P |
| 06:08.36 | Thunder_Child | bleeter, hm? |
| 06:08.49 | MentalPower|ZzZz | am now |
| 06:08.51 | MentalPower|ZzZz | :) |
| 06:08.56 | bleeter | r not |
| 06:09.07 | MentalPower|ZzZz | ~lart bleeter |
| 06:09.07 | purl | beats bleeter into protomatter with the andromeda galaxy |
| 06:09.18 | bleeter | stil r not |
| 06:10.22 | MentalPower|ZzZz | too lazy |
| 06:10.52 | bleeter | Thunder_Child: ah, well, erm prolly doesn't mean much to you. iirc, Americans make 'jokes' about the Polish. Aussies make 'jokes' about the Irish. Apparently, Irish folks make jokes about folks from Country Kerry |
| 06:11.25 | Thunder_Child | uhh..americans make jokes about everything...except country kerry it seems |
| 06:11.34 | bleeter | er |
| 06:11.37 | bleeter | I meant County |
| 06:11.59 | Thunder_Child | s/country/county/ |
| 06:12.16 | Wobwork | =\ |
| 06:12.38 | Wobwork | If I start speaking to an irishman, I end up sounding like a dubliner after a few minutes |
| 06:12.57 | Thunder_Child | i do that to any kind of accent |
| 06:13.00 | bleeter | Wobwork: u r irish, u crim!!111!!11 |
| 06:13.00 | Wobwork | "What's the time?" |
| 06:13.03 | Thunder_Child | some worse than others |
| 06:13.05 | Wobwork | "TREE TIRTY TREE!" |
| 06:13.21 | Wobwork | Thunder_Child: aye, same |
| 06:13.24 | bleeter | tog bog e! |
| 06:14.17 | Wobwork | Esp if I talk to my friend Naaaayooooome |
| 06:14.33 | Wobwork | she's irish... with a very thick accent |
| 06:14.40 | bleeter | er |
| 06:14.41 | Thunder_Child | 'ello 'ello 'ello wat 'ave we 'ere |
| 06:14.41 | Wobwork | You can cut it. Like peat. |
| 06:14.46 | Wobwork | Naomi |
| 06:14.46 | bleeter | "Tog E Go Bog E" |
| 06:15.10 | bleeter | which, as I saw on the exit ramps of most towns, thought was some road rule I had to follow |
| 06:15.11 | Wobwork | Thunder_Child: Roight, you're nicked! |
| 06:15.38 | bleeter | so in a bit of a panic, I phoned a gaelic speaker, who promised me it means 'take it easy' or 'top of the morning/day/arvo' |
| 06:15.44 | Thunder_Child | heh, i thought fg gold tooth tony when i read that Wobwork |
| 06:15.49 | Thunder_Child | s/fg/of/ |
| 06:16.01 | bleeter | I've only got two more words on the Irish to say |
| 06:16.03 | bleeter | well three |
| 06:16.13 | NightHawkTheSane | Wobwork: that reminds me, i need to redownload Life on Mars |
| 06:16.17 | bleeter | Father Jack Crilly |
| 06:16.19 | bleeter | DRINK! |
| 06:16.20 | bleeter | FECK! |
| 06:16.21 | bleeter | ARSE! |
| 06:16.23 | bleeter | GIRLS! |
| 06:16.28 | bleeter | ok, four... :/ |
| 06:17.04 | Wobwork | Nobody expects the irish inquisition =\ |
| 06:17.12 | bleeter | and if you dunno who Father Jack Crilly is... you ain't lived |
| 06:17.28 | Wobwork | s'true |
| 06:17.54 | Wobwork | er |
| 06:17.57 | Wobwork | Ted |
| 06:18.01 | Wobwork | Not Jack =P |
| 06:18.15 | bleeter | that was me quoting Jack, not Ted! |
| 06:18.42 | bleeter | I can quote Mrs. Doyle, too |
| 06:18.51 | bleeter | "Would you like some cake? It's got cocaine in it!" |
| 06:18.58 | bleeter | "Oh... what am I like... I meant..." |
| 06:19.00 | bleeter | "Raisins" |
| 06:21.50 | Thunder_Child | oh my....i just made a pun |
| 06:22.16 | Wobwork | You didn't strain anything, did you? |
| 06:22.26 | Thunder_Child | no, i think i broke something |
| 06:22.54 | Thunder_Child | how in the hell do you make a pic 50x50 |
| 06:23.03 | Thunder_Child | thats microscopic |
| 06:36.22 | Rayne | DAMNIT |
| 06:36.25 | Rayne | KJ Just went down |
| 06:36.32 | Rayne | good thing we downed Curator first. :/ |
| 06:36.48 | AnduinLothar | lol IF lagged up for like 2 min right b4 |
| 06:37.09 | AnduinLothar | everyone was pissed abotu the 10min arena q's |
| 06:38.32 | malreth | yah... silver hand down too |
| 06:41.11 | Thunder_Child | you know, all i wanted was a demo...but to get the demo i had to sign up and give a valid email address....torrent ftw |
| 06:41.31 | AnduinLothar | lol |
| 06:42.23 | Thunder_Child | see, thats a valid use of torrents, and if they had a torrent of the demo, i would use that |
| 06:42.35 | Thunder_Child | giving my email addy just to get a demo is BS |
| 06:42.49 | Thunder_Child | like i dont get enough crap |
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| 07:25.50 | NightHawkTheSane | "But I'm human!" "Rules of combat older than combat with other races, did not mention aliens. Rules change.. caught up in committee, not come through yet." |
| 07:26.01 | NightHawkTheSane | contact* >< |
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| 07:46.17 | Shirik|AFK | "The email system is successfully delivering email addressed to individual email addresses. If you are using an email list, you may still receive a notification advising that your email was undeliverable. We are still working on this issue and will let you know as soon as it is resolved." |
| 07:46.35 | Shirik|AFK | I would love to know what their definition of "successful" is, because the email system is far less than successful in my opinion |
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| 09:49.52 | Corrodias | a reasonably pleasant night of wow |
| 09:50.07 | Corrodias | my first pug in quite a while, i think |
| 09:51.29 | Tem | wow... |
| 09:51.40 | Tem | I logged in to [guild] Yay! he touched my tralala! |
| 09:51.50 | Corrodias | hah, fabulous song |
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| 10:44.11 | Wobin | http://www.brightcove.tv/title.jsp?title=1320122413 |
| 10:44.17 | Wobin | most brilliant trailer EVER |
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| 10:47.09 | krka | agreed! |
| 10:48.46 | Cide | it's an interesting one at least |
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| 10:51.02 | `-FISKER_Q\ | >D |
| 10:51.06 | `-FISKER_Q\ | :D |
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| 11:06.17 | Kaso | Just had a lecture about our uni network which was rather interesting. |
| 11:18.59 | nevcairiel | you know where to start to hack it now? |
| 11:33.32 | Kaso | From my door room i think that'd be pretty hard given the way they have it set up |
| 11:33.50 | Kaso | but i do have a much greater apprication as to why things are set up as they are |
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| 11:37.21 | reqol | how exactly does a macro length extention addon work? |
| 11:38.07 | Kaso | making securactionbutton and setting the macrotext attribyutes of them i'd gues |
| 11:39.15 | reqol | is there one around, or should I just try to make one myself? |
| 11:39.32 | reqol | operative word here being 'try'. :P |
| 11:39.44 | Kaso | what's your ultimate aim |
| 11:40.17 | reqol | just want longer macros |
| 11:40.22 | reqol | that are editable in-game |
| 11:40.49 | reqol | cogwheel's macrosequence is nice, but from what I can ascertain through his description, it only works on the edited table in the lua file |
| 11:41.38 | Kaso | Cog's thing works through the method i guessed earlier i think |
| 11:41.58 | Kaso | i'd prob be easiest to make a quick in-game interface for cog's addon i recon |
| 11:42.46 | reqol | I'm up for it, I just have no idea where to start on building interfaces. I don't want to use xml |
| 11:44.20 | Kaso | Hmm you might want to look into finding a pre-made ingame lua editor then just use that to interface with cog's addon in-game |
| 11:44.55 | reqol | that's actually a nice idea |
| 11:44.56 | Kaso | again this all requires a fair knowledge of addon coding, there might be better end-iuser solutions for this problem, im not sure |
| 11:45.04 | reqol | I have wowlua and tinypad |
| 11:45.31 | reqol | Kaso: that's no problem for me, but I was hoping to make a solution that would be adaptable for end users |
| 11:45.31 | Kaso | thatd work then, just check out which function parses the lua table and interface with that directly ingame |
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| 13:38.48 | haste | there's not much to learn if you already know lua |
| 13:39.08 | Taeri | I don't really. |
| 13:39.32 | Taeri | I know a tad bit, but not much. |
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| 14:23.15 | Taeri | I need to find a sell-o-matic that works properly |
| 14:23.44 | malreth | i use autoprofitx |
| 14:23.55 | malreth | !g AutoProfitX site:wowace.com |
| 14:24.11 | malreth | boo... batbot wru?!@? |
| 14:24.26 | malreth | ~google AutoProfitX site:wowace.com |
| 14:25.02 | Taeri | Ooh, I'll have to find that then |
| 14:26.01 | malreth | ok... so purl has a slashdot module but not a google module? wtf, blootbot? |
| 14:27.34 | malreth | !c us silver hand malreth |
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| 14:30.05 | malreth | ~lart ThraeBot |
| 14:30.05 | purl | chops ThraeBot in half with a free Solaris 7 CD |
| 14:30.28 | malreth | well, malreth finally shows up in the armory... took long enough |
| 14:30.47 | Shirik | halp me malreth |
| 14:30.57 | Shirik | physics final is in 45 minutes >< |
| 14:31.14 | malreth | heh heh... |
| 14:31.39 | malreth | i like took the physics class for psych majors in college |
| 14:31.46 | malreth | it's not really physics |
| 14:31.55 | Shirik | yeah, I'm taking an EE-oriented physics course :P |
| 14:32.04 | Shirik | lots of differential equations, etc -_- |
| 14:32.06 | malreth | i think we spent a semester rolling balls down hallways |
| 14:32.22 | malreth | LOL :D |
| 14:34.18 | Shirik | I love this part though: |
| 14:34.20 | Shirik | This exam has 30 multiple choice problems. |
| 14:34.20 | Shirik | You will be graded on your best 25 problems |
| 14:34.26 | Shirik | You do not need to show work. |
| 14:34.59 | malreth | huh... i get the 25/30 bit but the not showing work part? |
| 14:35.00 | Shirik | so I can miss 5 problems and still get 100% :D |
| 14:35.09 | Shirik | well it's multiple choice |
| 14:35.19 | Shirik | because they're lazy imo |
| 14:35.23 | Shirik | and want to do it on a scantron |
| 14:35.41 | malreth | ah... i guess my profs hated their TAs then... |
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| 14:36.01 | malreth | they usually made us show work on the exam itself and turn that in with the scantron |
| 14:36.08 | Shirik | ouchies |
| 14:36.18 | Shirik | yeah but did they ever give partial credit? |
| 14:36.39 | malreth | dunna remember... probably not |
| 14:36.47 | malreth | probably used as a method to detect cheating |
| 14:36.57 | Shirik | yeah that's what I was thinking |
| 14:37.14 | Shirik | see, if they were in SE/CE they would have intelligent TAs like me :P |
| 14:37.21 | Shirik | I just wrote a program to assist with detecting cheating |
| 14:37.29 | Shirik | caught two people so far ^^ |
| 14:38.03 | malreth | we had that too... the /usr/bin/turnin program... we had to submit our homework assignments through that thing |
| 14:38.32 | malreth | that was for CS classes |
| 14:38.39 | Shirik | Did it go "YOU CHEAT I TELL PROFESSOR NOW!!!" whenever you turned in something that was a copy? |
| 14:38.44 | Shirik | Or was it all secret-like |
| 14:38.50 | malreth | dunno... i never got caught |
| 14:38.53 | malreth | :D |
| 14:39.00 | Shirik | "never got caught" |
| 14:39.06 | Shirik | that implies that you did it once >< |
| 14:39.23 | malreth | we had a prof that didn't like the system and he encouraged us to collaborate on homework assignments |
| 14:39.38 | nevcairiel | lol |
| 14:39.50 | malreth | we could even reference any previous work released on the web as long as we sited it |
| 14:39.57 | malreth | s/sited/cited/ |
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| 14:40.21 | malreth | so i teamed up with a math major... he did all the inductive proofs and i hacked all the code |
| 14:40.38 | malreth | we cited each other and made A's in that class |
| 14:40.49 | malreth | over half the class failed that semester |
| 14:43.01 | malreth | this stupid WGA crap is screwing up my labs |
| 14:43.16 | krka | Warcraft Gaming Addiction? |
| 14:43.29 | malreth | Women's Golf Association |
| 14:43.29 | Shirik | lol |
| 14:43.41 | krka | mine was better |
| 14:43.45 | malreth | White Georgian Affluents |
| 14:44.07 | krka | writer's guild of america or windows genuine advantage? |
| 14:44.16 | krka | or web gallery of art |
| 14:44.23 | malreth | Windows Genuine Advantage |
| 14:44.52 | malreth | it detects half of my enterprise licensed XP machines as being pirated |
| 14:45.13 | malreth | an then helpfully decides to disable windows update |
| 14:45.43 | malreth | ah... got it working again |
| 14:45.48 | Shirik | lua> t = setmetatable({}, {__tostring = function() return "foo"; end}); print(t); |
| 14:45.48 | lua_bot | Shirik: { } (#1) |
| 14:45.53 | Shirik | lua> t = setmetatable({}, {__tostring = function() return "foo"; end}); print(tostring(t)); |
| 14:45.53 | lua_bot | Shirik: foo |
| 14:46.12 | Shirik | I wonder if that's correct or if that's just what clad|sleep did |
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| 14:46.58 | Shirik | yeah it's definitely just something that clad|sleep did |
| 14:46.58 | cogwheel | Shirik: http://www.lua.org/manual/5.1/manual.html#pdf-tostring |
| 14:47.02 | Shirik | Already got it :P |
| 14:47.04 | malreth | does __tostring require a function? |
| 14:47.11 | cogwheel | or do you mean the table serialization? |
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| 14:47.26 | Shirik | Yeah I just mean the table serialization overriding my __tostring metamethod |
| 14:47.39 | Shirik | I just tested it |
| 14:47.40 | Shirik | Lua 5.1.2 Copyright (C) 1994-2007 Lua.org, PUC-Rio |
| 14:47.40 | Shirik | > t = setmetatable({}, {__tostring = function() return "foo"; end}); print(t) |
| 14:47.40 | Shirik | foo |
| 14:47.53 | krka | i honestly don't get why people don't start switching to ubuntu, i really think it has reached and surpassed windows in usability |
| 14:48.03 | Shirik | because it's free |
| 14:48.07 | Shirik | free stuff is obviously low quality |
| 14:48.11 | cogwheel | krka: tell that to people with printers |
| 14:48.17 | JoshBorke | krka: because it doesn't work on my computer |
| 14:48.18 | cogwheel | :P |
| 14:48.25 | Shirik | who uses printers these days anyway |
| 14:48.25 | malreth | lua> setmetatable({}, {__tostring ="foo"}; print(t) |
| 14:48.26 | lua_bot | malreth: sandbox.lua:286: Compilation failed: [string "setmetatable({}, {__tostring ="foo"}; print(t)"]:1: ')' expected near ';' |
| 14:48.27 | Shirik | paper is so outdated |
| 14:48.38 | malreth | lua> setmetatable({}, {__tostring ="foo"}); print(t) |
| 14:48.38 | lua_bot | malreth: nil |
| 14:48.47 | Shirik | uh |
| 14:48.50 | Shirik | did you mean t = setmetatable? |
| 14:48.59 | malreth | lua> t=setmetatable({}, {__tostring ="foo"}); print(tostring(t)) |
| 14:48.59 | lua_bot | malreth: attempt to call a string value |
| 14:49.00 | cogwheel | printers, games, ipods, etc., etc. (though the same argument could potentially be used against vista) |
| 14:49.07 | malreth | ok... |
| 14:49.18 | malreth | lua> t=setmetatable({}, {__tostring ="foo"}); print(t) |
| 14:49.18 | lua_bot | malreth: { } (#1) |
| 14:49.33 | malreth | mmm... ok. makes sense |
| 14:51.19 | cogwheel | lua> print(setmetatable({}, {__tostring ="foo"})) -- IMO |
| 14:51.19 | lua_bot | cogwheel: { } (#1) |
| 14:51.30 | cogwheel | :P |
| 14:51.32 | krka | ubuntu has handled all printers i have encountered so far |
| 14:51.41 | Shirik | You are not allowed to post to this mailing list, and your message has been automatically rejected. If you think that your messages are being rejected in error, contact the mailing list owner at lua-owner@bazar2.conectiva.com.br. |
| 14:51.42 | Shirik | qq |
| 14:51.48 | cogwheel | krka: and it has handled none of mine (they're networked) |
| 14:51.59 | Shirik | Stupid school doesn't send emails with the correct "from" header |
| 14:52.15 | cogwheel | Shirik blocked as spam? |
| 14:52.25 | Shirik | no, just my school sends mails using delbu9c1@erau.edu |
| 14:52.32 | Shirik | but I registered at Matthew.Delbuono@erau.edu |
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| 14:52.37 | Shirik | which is the same box |
| 14:52.39 | cogwheel | ah |
| 14:52.57 | Shirik | bleh, oh well, the guy already got a different solution to his problem anyway. Gotta run to final, take care |
| 14:53.54 | malreth | just wondering since metatable entries like __index can take a table directly |
| 14:54.21 | malreth | but apparently __tostring does require a function |
| 14:55.16 | JoshBorke | as do the operator functions |
| 14:55.26 | JoshBorke | well, the comparison operator won't |
| 14:56.19 | JoshBorke | well, i guess the operator meta fields could take a number too |
| 14:56.33 | JoshBorke | never tried though |
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| 15:01.37 | malreth | my thermos rocks |
| 15:01.58 | malreth | i brewed coffee last night, filled it, and stuck it in the fridge overnight |
| 15:02.11 | JoshBorke | um, why? |
| 15:02.12 | malreth | the brew is still toasty warm this morning |
| 15:02.27 | malreth | JoshBorke: A test. |
| 15:02.39 | nevcairiel | lol |
| 15:03.20 | malreth | Zojirushi brand thermal drink containers get my endorsement |
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| 16:17.08 | Drea | hey hey! How is everyone this wonderful maintenance day? |
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| 16:23.36 | Dreagar | how do you register your nick? |
| 16:23.40 | Dreagar | i forget the command |
| 16:23.46 | amro | type /msg nickserv help |
| 16:23.54 | Dreagar | right on . thx am |
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| 16:26.47 | Dreagar | yay! I'm official |
| 16:27.04 | Dreagar | officially what i don't know. but i'm official |
| 16:27.05 | Dreagar | :D |
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| 16:40.20 | Dreagar | mornin Mal |
| 16:40.29 | cncfanatics | hello peeps |
| 16:40.44 | Dreagar | mornin cnc |
| 16:57.18 | malreth | hello Dreagar |
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| 16:58.58 | Aiyee | Does anyone know if there are any issues with the template for the Guild_list_ally template? |
| 17:02.34 | zenzelezz | so someone's advertising a private server on trade chat... "for serious gamers" |
| 17:03.07 | kergoth | which is a euphamism for what, gamers who dont give a shit about balance or challenge or anything? |
| 17:03.15 | kergoth | private servers are always way out of whack |
| 17:03.36 | zenzelezz | I would expect so |
| 17:03.37 | kergoth | so my younger brother tells me, anyway |
| 17:03.39 | kergoth | heh |
| 17:04.01 | kergoth | he was talkinga bout shit like leveling after only a few kills, and doing crazy damage, and other oddities |
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| 17:04.14 | nevcairiel | i dont think some basement-coders can do a better job then blizzard with anything =P |
| 17:04.16 | malreth | hey... when you're balls haven't dropped yet, you gotta have something in your life to feel good about |
| 17:04.24 | Lunessa | im in ur irc chattin' up ur frenz |
| 17:04.32 | Cide | if I ran a private server |
| 17:04.37 | XMLnoob | Hi all, I'm a noob at XML. (see name) Was wondering if anyone could check my small snippet of code for errors? |
| 17:04.47 | Cide | I sure as hell would insta-level myself upon killing my 50th spider for the fucking spider ichor |
| 17:05.21 | Lunessa | XMLnoob: Post the code on pastey or something. |
| 17:05.23 | Cide | XMLnoob: couldn't pick a worse name? :P |
| 17:05.25 | XMLnoob | http://wowi.pastey.net/78819 |
| 17:05.29 | XMLnoob | :) |
| 17:05.32 | Cide | ok |
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| 17:05.41 | Cide | I won't look at that before you indent it |
| 17:05.43 | Cide | sorry |
| 17:05.52 | XMLnoob | It was indented |
| 17:05.56 | Cide | now it's not |
| 17:05.57 | XMLnoob | pastey took em off? |
| 17:05.57 | Cide | fix it |
| 17:06.00 | Cide | nope |
| 17:06.03 | nevcairiel | pastey is stupid and strips tabs |
| 17:06.08 | nevcairiel | it only displays spaces |
| 17:06.09 | Cide | what? why would it |
| 17:06.13 | nevcairiel | dunno |
| 17:06.14 | nevcairiel | but it does |
| 17:06.15 | Cide | oh, but everyone should use spaces for tabs anyway |
| 17:06.22 | nevcairiel | nah |
| 17:06.24 | Cide | yes |
| 17:06.25 | nevcairiel | tabs > spaces |
| 17:06.34 | Cide | no; tabs aren't handled the same by all editors |
| 17:06.36 | Cide | spaces are |
| 17:06.46 | nevcairiel | what do i care if your editor sucks |
| 17:06.54 | Cide | it's not about how my editor handles it |
| 17:07.00 | Cide | it's about how my editor handles it versus other editors |
| 17:07.10 | malreth | huh?http://wowi.pastey.net/78820 |
| 17:07.25 | malreth | specify the XML language in pastey and it indents properly |
| 17:07.26 | nevcairiel | if i have one tab, its one tab in all editors. how wide that tab is, is your configuration :) |
| 17:07.28 | Cide | my editor handles tabs fine, but the editor of whomever wrote the file I'm looking at might not |
| 17:08.03 | Cide | perhaps, but using tabs to line up content at the end of lines = bad |
| 17:08.28 | Cide | yet it's common practice, hence tabs suck |
| 17:08.38 | Cide | http://wowi.pastey.net/78820 |
| 17:08.49 | Cide | XMLnoob: <Script File="PrettyColors.lua"></Script> |
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| 17:09.02 | Cide | change to: <Script file="PrettyColors.lua"/> |
| 17:09.12 | Cide | note lowercase 'f', attributes should always be lowercase |
| 17:09.17 | nevcairiel | i use tabs for normal indents, if i need stuff to be perfectly aligned i use spaces, because i dont know how wide the tab is .. ;) |
| 17:09.22 | kergoth | yeah, agreed. i still like thei dea of using tabs for indentation and spaces for alignment, but everybody who touches a file indented that way fucks it up, cause they use crappy editors or don't know how to use it, so better off just using spaces everywhere :\ |
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| 17:09.26 | kergoth | nevcairiel: :) |
| 17:10.01 | Cide | nevcairiel: yeah, but lots of people don't... and if you use spaces for indentation, the editor handles it way easier |
| 17:10.09 | malreth | hey hey guys... tabs for indention, spaces for alignment, a woman for duty, and a melon for pleasure |
| 17:10.13 | Cide | tab -> 4 spaces is a lot neater than<spacebar><spacebar><spacebar><spacebar> |
| 17:10.15 | malreth | get it right! |
| 17:10.27 | Cide | but of course, that's just personal preference |
| 17:10.35 | Cide | as long as you use spaces for alignment, I don't care what you do |
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| 17:10.47 | malreth | Cide: good... |
| 17:10.57 | nevcairiel | i know, its like one switch in my editor to configure it to add spaces instead of tabs when i hit the key .. but meh :) |
| 17:10.59 | Cide | my experience tells me that people who use tabs for tabs don't, however |
| 17:11.15 | Cide | so I continue to flame \t-tabbers |
| 17:11.40 | Cide | XMLnoob: did you catch that? |
| 17:12.04 | Cide | everything else looks good, as far as I can tell |
| 17:12.16 | Cide | XMLnoob: oh, nope. <Layer Level="BACKGROUND"> |
| 17:12.25 | Cide | another non-lowercase attribute |
| 17:12.27 | Cide | should be level |
| 17:12.34 | XMLnoob | ok |
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| 17:12.38 | Cide | setAllPoints should be setallpoints |
| 17:13.04 | Cide | I'm not sure if the blizzard parser accepts it anyway though |
| 17:13.40 | Cide | do you have a specific problem with the code? |
| 17:14.04 | Cide | I'm guessing you don't want the PrettyColors frame to be virtual, but I might be wrong |
| 17:15.57 | XMLnoob | yes, you are correct, I changed it to false |
| 17:16.05 | XMLnoob | updated code with SPACES :) http://wowi.pastey.net/78824 |
| 17:16.19 | Cide | you still forgot the language, however |
| 17:16.24 | malreth | XMLnoob: just specify a language type |
| 17:16.25 | Cide | so you don't get any syntax highlighting |
| 17:16.34 | XMLnoob | ba |
| 17:17.04 | XMLnoob | ok, http://wowi.pastey.net/78825 |
| 17:17.06 | XMLnoob | :) |
| 17:17.43 | XMLnoob | I knew about the <script file=""/> i just changed it to <script></script> because my editor wasnt happy |
| 17:17.55 | XMLnoob | notepad++ |
| 17:18.19 | zenzelezz | my Notepad++ has no problem with the short form :-o |
| 17:18.25 | zenzelezz | try using a space before the /> ? |
| 17:18.37 | Cide | not necessary |
| 17:18.46 | Cide | shouldn't be, anyway (unless Notepad++ sucks) |
| 17:18.57 | XMLnoob | hrm |
| 17:19.01 | XMLnoob | still freaking out on me |
| 17:19.10 | Cide | FYI: your indentation is off for the <Texture> tag and children |
| 17:19.14 | XMLnoob | it just throws the colors off for the rest of the code |
| 17:19.33 | Cide | can change it to <Script></Script> then |
| 17:20.52 | XMLnoob | just so you know, all i want this to do is simply pop a 100x100 frame when a party message is received |
| 17:21.03 | XMLnoob | the lua is short, would you mind looking at it? |
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| 17:21.42 | Kaso | XMLnoob, show away |
| 17:22.27 | XMLnoob | http://wowi.pastey.net/78827 |
| 17:23.10 | XMLnoob | when someone says 'test' in party chat, this frame should pop correct? |
| 17:24.25 | malreth | umm... |
| 17:24.25 | Cide | no |
| 17:24.29 | Cide | you have two separate frames |
| 17:24.31 | XMLnoob | :( |
| 17:24.36 | malreth | PrettyColors isn't registered for any events |
| 17:24.37 | Cide | one registers for the event, the other receives the event |
| 17:24.48 | XMLnoob | ah |
| 17:24.49 | Cide | the other doesn't have any events registered |
| 17:25.07 | Cide | move the <OnLoad> that registers the event to the PrettyColors frame |
| 17:25.17 | Cide | and just delete the PrettyFrame_RegisterEvents frame |
| 17:25.35 | Cide | also |
| 17:25.41 | Cide | it's this:Show() -- Capital 'S' |
| 17:25.49 | malreth | you can get away with putting a PrettyColors:RegisterEvent("CHAT_MSG_PARTY") by itself at the top of the .lua file also |
| 17:25.55 | Cide | nope |
| 17:26.02 | Cide | PrettyColors isn't defined when the lua file is loaded |
| 17:26.03 | malreth | oh... |
| 17:26.05 | malreth | right.. |
| 17:26.19 | malreth | there's a reason why i don't use xml files anymore |
| 17:26.22 | malreth | :p |
| 17:26.25 | Cide | me too :) |
| 17:26.32 | Cide | (laziness) |
| 17:26.37 | malreth | same same |
| 17:28.29 | XMLnoob | ok, easy enough... leave the lua as is, and shift the xml a bit |
| 17:28.30 | XMLnoob | http://wowi.pastey.net/78829 |
| 17:28.51 | Kaso | I was thinking the other day that xml really is a more sensible way of defining ui frames but LuaFrames have so many benifits that i'd be nice if there was some xml-lua parser that means you could "logically" design your frames in xml but still get the niceness of the luaframes like dynamic frame creation etc |
| 17:29.13 | XMLnoob | i didnt realize that events would only register to the frame in which it is defined... makes perfect sense though... thanks all! :) |
| 17:29.14 | Kaso | Someone mentioned that maybe iriel had done something like that but my cursoary google didnt turn up much |
| 17:29.23 | kergoth | thatd be cool, best of both worlds |
| 17:29.23 | Cide | XMLnoob: if by 'leave' you mean 'change s to S', then yes |
| 17:29.43 | XMLnoob | lol, yes, that too |
| 17:29.48 | XMLnoob | thank you for reminding me |
| 17:29.55 | Cide | anytime |
| 17:30.22 | XMLnoob | so as is, this should really recognize the arg "test" in party chat? |
| 17:30.34 | XMLnoob | and viola, my pretty blue frame arrives? |
| 17:30.45 | malreth | ~dict viola |
| 17:30.57 | Cide | should work, yes |
| 17:31.00 | malreth | ~dict voila |
| 17:31.08 | Cide | ha, fail. |
| 17:31.15 | Cide | ~vóila |
| 17:31.24 | Cide | err. |
| 17:31.43 | Cide | ~dict voilà |
| 17:31.44 | XMLnoob | yes, definitely a bunch of bored coders here. i am in heaven |
| 17:31.53 | Cide | you suck, purl |
| 17:31.56 | malreth | ~x fr en voilà |
| 17:32.03 | malreth | yay! |
| 17:32.18 | Kaso | purl has a translator! |
| 17:32.28 | Cide | ~x en fr I suck |
| 17:32.35 | Cide | yes purl, you do. |
| 17:32.43 | malreth | ~x jp en ã¯ã„ |
| 17:32.52 | Kaso | i guess its a word-for-word translator without any regard for grammer? |
| 17:32.55 | malreth | huh? |
| 17:33.05 | Cide | ~dict grammer |
| 17:33.12 | XMLnoob | lol |
| 17:33.21 | Kaso | :< |
| 17:33.35 | Valaron|Work | lawl |
| 17:33.39 | malreth | ~x jp en ã¯ã„ã€ãã§ã™ã€‚ |
| 17:33.48 | Cide | yes indeed. |
| 17:33.50 | Cide | the sleeve does! |
| 17:33.52 | malreth | i give up |
| 17:33.58 | XMLnoob | well, i am very excited to test this bad boy, thanks again for the help guys |
| 17:34.07 | Cide | yup |
| 17:34.25 | malreth | ~x jp en ã¯ã„ã€ãã†ã§ã™ã€‚ |
| 17:34.34 | malreth | lol |
| 17:35.17 | Cide | (purl is obviously never wrong) |
| 17:35.30 | malreth | it's been like 10 years since i last took japanese |
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| 17:36.17 | Intangir | http://www.pbs.org/now/shows/350/preview.html |
| 17:42.26 | malreth | http://www.ted.com/index.php/talks/view/id/93 |
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| 17:56.52 | Shirik|zZz | ~x jp en ??????????? |
| 17:56.52 | Shirik|zZz | boo |
| 17:56.52 | Cide | fail |
| 17:56.52 | Shirik|zZz | my client doesn't like japanese apparently |
| 17:56.52 | Kaso | those aren't unicode chars! |
| 17:56.52 | Shirik|zZz | it lets me type it, that's wierd |
| 17:56.52 | Shirik|zZz | I can see it in the chat box |
| 17:56.52 | Kaso | What client? |
| 17:56.54 | Shirik|zZz | then I push enter and it goes all ???????? |
| 17:56.58 | Cide | haha |
| 17:56.59 | Shirik | yes, thanks purl |
| 17:57.06 | NightHawkTheSane | nice. |
| 17:57.11 | Cide | wow |
| 17:57.12 | Kaso | some have settings to make it send irc messages in UTF8 rather than ascii |
| 17:57.14 | Cide | your name is way too long |
| 17:57.28 | Shirik | Kaso: mirc |
| 17:57.34 | Cide | Shirik: should get x-chat |
| 17:57.36 | Cide | it's pro |
| 17:57.37 | NightHawkTheSane | I beg to differ, your name is way too short. |
| 17:57.46 | Shirik | I like nbs-irc way too much to do that |
| 17:57.52 | Cide | well, I make the decisions |
| 17:58.11 | Kaso | i seem to remeber reading mIRC recently got utf8 support |
| 17:58.16 | Kaso | perhaps check the help files |
| 17:58.23 | Taeri | waaaah |
| 17:58.26 | Taeri | this is not good |
| 17:59.05 | Shirik | ??? |
| 17:59.09 | Shirik | grrr |
| 17:59.19 | Shirik | it allows me to select "UTF-8 display" but that's it >.> |
| 17:59.21 | Cide | what's the inverse of zoom? |
| 17:59.27 | Shirik | unzoop |
| 17:59.29 | Shirik | unzoom |
| 17:59.35 | XMLnoob | mooz |
| 17:59.35 | Taeri | I have roughly -400NOK on my accounts. |
| 17:59.41 | nevcairiel | zoom-in, zoom-out? is there a inverse? ^^ |
| 17:59.44 | Cide | and not zoom^-1, thank you very much |
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| 17:59.47 | Kaso | ‽ ‽ ‽ ‽ ‽ |
| 17:59.52 | Kaso | do you see those Shirik ? |
| 17:59.52 | Cide | well, I need a noun, not a verb |
| 17:59.55 | Shirik | wtf is that |
| 17:59.57 | Shirik | looks like a bomb |
| 18:00.02 | Kaso | Interrobang! |
| 18:00.06 | Shirik | interrobang? |
| 18:00.10 | Cide | ?! |
| 18:00.13 | Kaso | an ! and ? in one symbol |
| 18:00.16 | Shirik | ??? |
| 18:00.18 | nevcairiel | i lack the font to show that, i only see the utf8 boxes |
| 18:00.22 | Shirik | I give up |
| 18:00.41 | Shirik | Kaso: It looks like the smoke cloud from an a-bomb |
| 18:00.41 | Shirik | lol |
| 18:00.46 | nevcairiel | lol |
| 18:00.47 | Kaso | ha |
| 18:01.02 | zenzelezz | is the "interrobang" meant to be a question mark and an exclamation mark on top of each other? |
| 18:01.10 | Cide | yes |
| 18:01.10 | NightHawkTheSane | Cide: inverse of zoom? erm, zoom refers to moving both narrowing and expanding the field of vision, it doesn't really have an inverse? |
| 18:01.27 | Cide | NightHawkTheSane: true |
| 18:01.35 | Cide | maybe I should name my variable something else |
| 18:01.49 | Cide | I need a variable to represent field of vision |
| 18:01.52 | Cide | variable name* |
| 18:01.52 | NightHawkTheSane | and wow, that sentence was kinda fucked up. meh. |
| 18:02.01 | nevcairiel | FoV :P |
| 18:02.02 | NightHawkTheSane | fieldOfVision? ;) |
| 18:02.04 | Cide | meh |
| 18:02.12 | Cide | hush |
| 18:02.31 | XMLnoob | im still set on 'mooz' |
| 18:02.47 | Cide | mooz is strangely attractive |
| 18:03.03 | nevcairiel | altho you will probably forget what it means in the next hour or so |
| 18:03.11 | Cide | nah |
| 18:03.18 | Cide | default values for the win |
| 18:03.25 | Cide | oh, you mean mooz? |
| 18:03.33 | Shirik | singaporeStreetNoodles <-- best variable name ever |
| 18:03.35 | Cide | or field of vision? :P |
| 18:03.40 | nevcairiel | mooz |
| 18:03.41 | nevcairiel | :) |
| 18:03.42 | Cide | Shirik: oh god |
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| 18:03.56 | XMLnoob | just comment next to mooz "Inverse of zoom" |
| 18:03.59 | Shirik | Cidan and I came up with it when we were out at this restaraunt |
| 18:04.01 | Shirik | that's what he ordered :P |
| 18:04.01 | XMLnoob | win |
| 18:04.51 | Shirik | qq servers are down? |
| 18:04.58 | Cairenn | bleeter: btw, the conversation you and I had a couple days - it's in their hands - what'll come of it, who knows, but it's there |
| 18:05.00 | nevcairiel | qq maint? |
| 18:05.16 | Cide | restaurantMenuPrices = { singaporeStreetNoodles = 12.53, jamaicanJointExtract = 7.93 } |
| 18:05.28 | Cide | undefined currency |
| 18:05.43 | Shirik | CEC 460 01DB Telecommunications System 3.00 3.00 B 9.00 L 08/27-12/13 |
| 18:05.46 | Shirik | I'm ok with this grade... |
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| 18:06.32 | Shirik | Not ok with this grade... PS 250 08DB Physics III for Engineers 3.00 **** ** ***** L 08/27-12/13 |
| 18:06.44 | Shirik | Those stars are like "muahahaha I'll never tell you, you will suffer forever!" |
| 18:06.55 | Shirik | and for some reason I still refresh the page ever 15 minutes |
| 18:06.59 | Cairenn | lol |
| 18:07.26 | Cide | do http://www.drunkmenworkhere.org/170 instead |
| 18:07.51 | Shirik | oh holy crap |
| 18:07.59 | Shirik | it already hurts my head |
| 18:08.07 | Cide | it's fun |
| 18:08.13 | Cide | once you get the hang of it |
| 18:08.25 | NightHawkTheSane | Heh, seen that. Somewhat amusing. |
| 18:08.32 | Cairenn | yeah, that one is fun |
| 18:08.45 | Cide | aye, I know it's pretty old |
| 18:09.37 | Shirik | I'm going to have to print this out and take it to class :P |
| 18:13.32 | malreth | ZOMG!!! This trailer is made of win! http://www.boingboing.net/2007/12/10/machine-girl-trailer.html |
| 18:14.55 | XMLnoob | and it is official |
| 18:14.56 | XMLnoob | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mooz |
| 18:15.00 | XMLnoob | please contribute |
| 18:15.46 | Shirik | This page may meet Wikipedia’s criteria for speedy deletion. The reason given is: It is a very short article providing little or no context (CSD A1). |
| 18:16.01 | Shirik | that was fast |
| 18:16.57 | XMLnoob | :( |
| 18:17.32 | malreth | Machine Girl! Drill bras! Flying guillotines! |
| 18:18.45 | Shirik | hey |
| 18:18.50 | Shirik | refreshing every 5 seconds paid off |
| 18:19.09 | Shirik | CS 420 01DB Operating Systems 3.00 3.00 A 12.00 L 08/27-12/13 |
| 18:19.15 | Shirik | unfortunately none of my other courses are complete =( |
| 18:19.21 | malreth | you got an L? |
| 18:19.26 | Shirik | ... |
| 18:19.29 | Shirik | look at the other letter |
| 18:19.35 | malreth | :D |
| 18:19.38 | NightHawkTheSane | hehe |
| 18:19.45 | Shirik | I don't actually know what the L means |
| 18:19.47 | NightHawkTheSane | youo got an AL? |
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| 18:27.19 | Rayne | man, everythings down for maintenence this afternoon... |
| 18:27.25 | Rayne | WoW, Deviantart... |
| 18:28.18 | |Jelly| | lol |
| 18:28.30 | Rayne | my vent just died too |
| 18:28.32 | Rayne | =| |
| 18:28.40 | Taeri | and what's everything, right there. XD |
| 18:28.46 | Taeri | there's nothing more to life than WoW and DA |
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| 18:28.54 | Rayne | I was mid covno with someone |
| 18:29.00 | Rayne | we were gonna play Civ4 |
| 18:29.07 | Rayne | and now vents like lewl I dont think so |
| 18:29.19 | nevcairiel | man even wowhead is down :P |
| 18:29.26 | nevcairiel | ah no only slow |
| 18:29.35 | Taeri | internet is breaking down! |
| 18:29.46 | Taeri | run for yer life! |
| 18:29.50 | Rayne | Ill just watch Tom and Jerry |
| 18:30.32 | Rayne | oh wtf now its over |
| 18:30.35 | Rayne | I give up |
| 18:32.52 | Shirik | Cide: ping |
| 18:32.58 | Cide | pong |
| 18:33.08 | Shirik | Are you sure this quiz has a solution? |
| 18:33.12 | Cide | yes |
| 18:33.15 | Cide | why? |
| 18:33.24 | Shirik | question 7 says Alphabetically, the answer to this question and the answer to the following question are: |
| 18:33.36 | Shirik | no matter what the answer is, it forces question 6 to be E |
| 18:33.44 | Shirik | question 6 is 6. The answer to question 17 is: |
| 18:33.55 | Shirik | there is no way that 17 can be "all of the above" |
| 18:34.06 | Cide | the following question |
| 18:34.10 | Cide | not the previous question |
| 18:34.16 | Cide | the question following 7 would be 8 |
| 18:34.19 | Shirik | oops |
| 18:34.21 | Shirik | >.> |
| 18:34.52 | malreth | feed that brain... you've had a tough past couple of days |
| 18:34.58 | Cide | and no, Shirik |
| 18:35.07 | Cide | 7 doesn't force 8 to be E either |
| 18:35.21 | Shirik | oh you'er right |
| 18:35.23 | Shirik | got it |
| 18:35.49 | Shirik | but it forces it to not be B or D :P |
| 18:35.53 | Cide | yep |
| 18:35.59 | Cide | which in turn gives you what? :P |
| 18:36.32 | malreth | it gives you ham |
| 18:36.37 | Cide | I wish |
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| 18:48.19 | Duman | wtf? |
| 18:48.20 | Duman | HTTP/1.1 302 Moved Temporarily |
| 18:48.20 | Duman | Server: Apache-Coyote/1.1 |
| 18:48.20 | Duman | Set-Cookie: JSESSIONID=5A02C165329F2F2BCC6346D6D8BE73FD; Path=/ |
| 18:48.20 | Duman | Location: http://uw1-web-09-app08.wowadmin.net:8080/?sid=1 |
| 18:48.29 | Duman | no wonder the forums are fubar |
| 18:50.08 | nevcairiel | on official forums? |
| 18:50.16 | nevcairiel | that link seems so .. fake :P |
| 18:51.39 | Kaso | wowadmin.net: |
| 18:51.42 | Kaso | Registrant: |
| 18:51.42 | Kaso | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:52.02 | Shirik | I'm so close... |
| 18:52.52 | Kaso | To what? |
| 18:53.35 | Shirik | 2 questions are off >< |
| 18:53.44 | Shirik | this quiz Cide gave me |
| 18:53.59 | Kaso | about what? |
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| 18:54.47 | Shirik | self-referential test |
| 18:54.54 | Shirik | http://www.drunkmenworkhere.org/170 |
| 18:55.16 | Kaso | Oh screw that! |
| 18:56.21 | Shirik | lol |
| 18:56.36 | Shirik | Currently only questions 2 and 3 are mismatched =( |
| 18:56.59 | Cide | what did you put at 20? |
| 18:57.01 | Shirik | And I know for a fact either #14 or #15 must be wrong |
| 18:57.07 | Shirik | E? |
| 18:57.47 | Cide | really? I thought it only measured air pressure |
| 18:58.11 | nevcairiel | it does |
| 18:58.20 | Cide | can the others be derived from air pressure? :/ |
| 18:58.31 | Shirik | that's not the point :P |
| 18:58.39 | Shirik | The point is that standardized tests don't measure intelligence |
| 18:58.48 | nevcairiel | yea, i had E there too |
| 18:58.54 | [Liquidor] | Do you guys know of any addon sorting out the guild bank? (as in what MrPlow does to your bags) |
| 18:58.55 | Cide | then I fail at that question :P |
| 18:59.02 | Shirik | Cide: You could take the easy way out |
| 18:59.12 | Shirik | All of the other answers are mark you wrong |
| 18:59.30 | Cide | I don't do it on the site |
| 18:59.41 | Cide | I do it in notepad |
| 19:00.15 | Shirik | ah |
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| 19:01.37 | Shirik | noooooooooooooooo |
| 19:01.38 | Shirik | firefox crashed |
| 19:01.44 | Shirik | I'm not doing all that again |
| 19:01.58 | Shirik | gahhh |
| 19:02.22 | Cide | hey, I solved it anyway |
| 19:02.31 | Cide | 20 didn't affect the results |
| 19:02.34 | Cide | I think I solved it, anyway |
| 19:02.37 | Cide | checking now |
| 19:03.01 | Cide | Shirik: that's why you should do it in notepad :P |
| 19:03.41 | |Jelly| | Lunessa: Ping |
| 19:05.16 | break19 | [Liquidor]: bankstack > Mrplow, and supports guild banks |
| 19:05.43 | [Liquidor] | break19, character bags supported? |
| 19:05.53 | [Liquidor] | asking since it's named "bankstack" |
| 19:06.04 | break19 | [Liquidor]: all bags |
| 19:06.23 | Cide | sweet |
| 19:06.23 | [Liquidor] | kk checking |
| 19:06.24 | break19 | it "stacks to bank" but more features were added, Kemayo just never changed the name. heh |
| 19:06.24 | Cide | I solved it |
| 19:08.41 | Lunessa | |Jelly|: pong |
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| 19:10.12 | Shirik | this is sick: http://www.worstpreviews.com/trailer.php?id=303&item=2 |
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| 19:10.45 | Shirik | You should probably watch them in order: part 1 http://www.guardianhq.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=14427 |
| 19:10.46 | Shirik | er |
| 19:10.49 | Shirik | well all 3 parts are there |
| 19:12.17 | [Liquidor] | break19, don't really see any feature for the guild bank |
| 19:14.02 | break19 | well.. according to updates I've read while using it, it does.. |
| 19:14.44 | break19 | [Liquidor]: from the wowi page: "BankStack is the leading cause of things moving in your bags and bank. It:. sorts your inventory, bank, or guild bank" |
| 19:14.58 | XMLnoob | :( |
| 19:14.59 | [Liquidor] | uhm |
| 19:15.03 | [Liquidor] | still havne't found the options |
| 19:15.19 | break19 | its considered "bank" so open the guild bank, and tell it to sort the bank |
| 19:15.28 | XMLnoob | my 'simple' little addon is not working :( |
| 19:15.43 | XMLnoob | i just want one frame! |
| 19:15.47 | malreth | what's happening, XMLnoob? |
| 19:15.51 | malreth | any errors? |
| 19:15.52 | XMLnoob | nothing at all |
| 19:16.02 | XMLnoob | no, just ... nothing |
| 19:16.02 | nevcairiel | check FrameXML.log for errors |
| 19:16.10 | XMLnoob | interfering with other mods? |
| 19:16.11 | XMLnoob | ok |
| 19:16.27 | [Liquidor] | break19, did so already with all the banking options |
| 19:16.49 | break19 | then i dunno, I dont have full read/write access to any guild bank tabs so I cant use that feature |
| 19:18.06 | break19 | according to the readme: /sort guild1 sorts the first guild bank tab |
| 19:20.39 | Shirik | ~weather KDAB |
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| 19:21.30 | [Liquidor] | oh well break19, it does recon its a bank now but it says perfection even tho the bank is messy as hell |
| 19:21.43 | XMLnoob | Couldn't parse XML in Interface\AddOns\PrettyColors\PrettyColors.xml |
| 19:21.56 | XMLnoob | http://wowi.pastey.net/78837 |
| 19:21.57 | break19 | then you may not have full access.. as I said, I dont know, since I cant use that feature |
| 19:22.52 | XMLnoob | i do not see what is wrong with my xml... but then again.. i AM XMLnoob |
| 19:24.32 | zenzelezz | XMLnoob: you have a lowercase l in </Onload> |
| 19:24.44 | foxlit | Also, just a general note |
| 19:24.48 | XMLnoob | wow, ty |
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| 19:24.56 | foxlit | You can collapse things containing <AbsDimension> |
| 19:25.07 | foxlit | So your size declaration could be <Size x="100" y="100"/> |
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| 19:25.27 | XMLnoob | size defaults to absoulte? |
| 19:25.34 | XMLnoob | ok, thank you for that too |
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| 19:26.38 | Beladona | did you look at the framexml log? it might have more detail on the error |
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| 19:26.55 | XMLnoob | !!!! |
| 19:26.58 | XMLnoob | !!!! |
| 19:27.14 | Beladona | !!? |
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| 19:29.08 | XMLnoob | it actually works! events actually DO fire! zomg amazing! |
| 19:29.11 | [Liquidor] | break19, ye I guess but I can move around the items manually |
| 19:29.17 | XMLworks | ! |
| 19:29.39 | Beladona | zoinks! |
| 19:32.42 | [Liquidor] | break19 found a comment in sort.lua: "--(you need withdraw *and* deposit permissions in the guild bank to move items within it)" |
| 19:33.25 | Beladona | makes sense |
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| 19:34.55 | Taeri | defenetly makes sense |
| 19:37.07 | Beladona | or I guess since it is a bank, it makes 'cents' |
| 19:37.08 | Beladona | sorry, that was bad |
| 19:37.22 | Taeri | it was XD |
| 19:37.26 | zenzelezz | lol |
| 19:37.37 | dylanm | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:37.39 | Beladona | check out group calendar |
| 19:38.06 | Dreagar | is the servers up yet? |
| 19:38.16 | Cairenn | obviously he wasn't, since he didn't fuss about it |
| 19:38.20 | Taeri | I can use normal date/time lua functions right? |
| 19:38.35 | dylanm | Er, maybe GroupCalendar. |
| 19:38.35 | Taeri | or does WoW supply it's own batch of stuff? |
| 19:38.50 | dylanm | It's not going to be pretty. |
| 19:39.01 | dylanm | There aren't a bunch of fantastic date functions that Blizzard has added, no. |
| 19:39.04 | zenzelezz | Cairenn: topic it so he can't miss it? |
| 19:39.05 | dylanm | Dreagar: Yes. |
| 19:39.15 | Dreagar | yay! thanks Dylan |
| 19:39.19 | dylanm | Dreagar: At least, Mal'Ganis is up. Which is rare these days. |
| 19:39.34 | zenzelezz | maybe too long for that to get the context |
| 19:39.39 | Taeri | I'm looking at the GroupCalendar now. |
| 19:40.08 | bleeter | Cairenn: loverly, thanks mate >:D< |
| 19:40.21 | Cairenn | bleeter: you're welcome |
| 19:40.31 | bleeter | (or whatever passes as the 'hugs' smiley on IRC these days) |
| 19:41.15 | Cairenn | :) |
| 19:43.32 | zenzelezz | the best part about December has to be the half tax |
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| 19:44.31 | Taeri | considering I have absolutely no income.. the half tax doesn't really bother me much, ;P |
| 19:44.57 | zenzelezz | didn't use to matter much to me either, but now I actually earn something \o/ |
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| 19:48.38 | Kemayo | [Liquidor]: Technically I am *lying* when I say you need withdraw and deposit. It's just that requiring it makes my life very much easier, because I allow arbitrary bag groupings. |
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| 19:48.56 | [Liquidor] | oh you actually exist :) |
| 19:49.14 | malreth|ghost | no... that was actually me |
| 19:49.28 | malreth|ghost | i've been learning ventriloquism. pretty cool, no? |
| 19:49.29 | Kemayo | I think you can move items within a guild bank tab with just deposit, though I could be misremembering. |
| 19:49.30 | Rayne`XMasShopn | bbl |
| 19:49.34 | [Liquidor] | well would it be too much to ask you for a secondary func in case you can only deposit? |
| 19:50.00 | Taeri | are we making guildbank addons ? :o |
| 19:50.03 | malreth|ghost | i replied that time while drinking a glass of water... very convincing |
| 19:50.06 | [Liquidor] | I mean, my curr. GM does NOT like addons (it's just a newbie guild with 500 members) so I'd like to help him out here |
| 19:50.23 | [Liquidor] | you can Kemayo, |
| 19:50.29 | [Liquidor] | oh Enter too early there |
| 19:50.45 | Taeri | 500 member guild 0.o |
| 19:51.00 | Kemayo | The main difficulty is the restrictions. What I need to do is add slightly smarter estimation of when you need which permissions. |
| 19:51.01 | zenzelezz | 500 is nothing |
| 19:51.06 | [Liquidor] | ye the biggest of the realm, just spam-inviting anyone and kicking if offline for too long heh |
| 19:51.11 | zenzelezz | one of my first guilds had "everyone-can-invite" |
| 19:51.20 | zenzelezz | don't even know the real number in that one |
| 19:51.36 | Kemayo | Like, it's possible to ask it to sort tab1+tab2, in which case you need withdraw+deposit in both. |
| 19:51.39 | malreth | there is no way that can be a good idea... -_- |
| 19:51.41 | [Liquidor] | well guild tab is limited to 500, but the number is unlimited I think |
| 19:52.35 | _Saint-N | http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/7130484.stm |
| 19:52.46 | bleeter | I think there should be less slots per tab in the GV, and more tabs |
| 19:52.47 | Kemayo | [Liquidor]: I think this is the reason Wobin has been stalled on guild bank stuff in MrPlow for a while now. I went ahead and half-assed it, but he wants to get it *right*. :P |
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| 19:52.59 | [Liquidor] | heh |
| 19:53.12 | [Liquidor] | well why would you need to check for withdraw perm.? |
| 19:53.26 | [Liquidor] | As soon as there's a deposit permission you can move items around I believe |
| 19:53.32 | Taeri | bleeter: I actually agree with you. |
| 19:53.42 | Taeri | and less pricey tabs pls.. >__0 |
| 19:53.52 | malreth | the mysterious moubbit... half mouse, half rabbit... all cute |
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| 19:54.10 | Kemayo | [Liquidor]: But you can't move an item from one tab to another with just deposit. |
| 19:54.25 | zenzelezz | malreth: I prefer the rause |
| 19:54.25 | Taeri | Kemayo: what're you guys making? |
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| 19:54.47 | [Liquidor] | Kemayo, arh okay, that's what you mean |
| 19:54.48 | Kemayo | Taeri: It's more "what did I make last month?" |
| 19:54.49 | bleeter | Taeri: I've yet to find anyone who disagrees ;) |
| 19:55.02 | Taeri | Kemayo: aha, what'd you make last month? XD |
| 19:55.28 | Kemayo | Taeri: A bag/bank/guildbank sorter/stacker www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info7761-BankStack.html |
| 19:55.53 | [Liquidor] | change the title of the addon already :) |
| 19:56.14 | Taeri | I'd also love to be able to buy smaller bagslots in tabs, like in the normal banks. >__0 |
| 19:56.20 | [Liquidor] | everyone said to me "but I need my bags sorted, not my bank" when I told em about the addon |
| 19:56.24 | Kemayo | It suffered from feature creep, I admit. It really did originally just fill stacks in your bank from your bags. >_> |
| 19:56.33 | kergoth | bankstack is lovely |
| 19:57.03 | Kemayo | The problem is that once you've written an item-mover, everything else looks like an enticingly simple extension. |
| 19:57.14 | [Liquidor] | Kemayo, what's the /sort guild1 command for then? |
| 19:57.28 | Kemayo | [Liquidor]: That would sort tab 1. |
| 19:57.41 | [Liquidor] | ye but you need both permissions for that :S |
| 19:57.57 | Kemayo | Yup. Like I said, I need to make it smarter. |
| 19:58.01 | [Liquidor] | (it seems as nothing happens but a perfection message being printed) |
| 19:58.05 | Taeri | I'm attempting making a guildvault addon myself. but I'm a newb, so it's gonna take freaking forever XD |
| 19:58.19 | Kemayo | Also make it give better error messages for such cases. |
| 19:58.22 | Saint-N | eeeeeeeeee |
| 19:58.43 | [Liquidor] | Taeri, just make an infinite loop going through all the bags, slots and sort them by groups :) |
| 19:58.43 | Kemayo | I'm open to renaming it. I just haven't thought of a better name yet. |
| 19:58.45 | break19 | Kemayo: thing is, he said he can move items around manually... |
| 19:59.01 | [Liquidor] | and yes |
| 19:59.06 | [Liquidor] | please make it infinite |
| 19:59.10 | [Liquidor] | such fun |
| 19:59.14 | Saint-N | heh /t Dear Santa: This year I would like your list of naughty girls for Xmas. Thanks. |
| 19:59.25 | Kemayo | break19: Yup. I'm being more restrictive than I have to be, because it assumes that it might need to move items between tabs. |
| 19:59.58 | Kemayo | break19: I intend to make it able to tell "oh, only one tab? I only need withdraw!" |
| 20:00.00 | Dreagar | is there somewhere that says what zoneIndex corresponds to what zoneText? |
| 20:00.10 | Taeri | [Liquidor]: I'm making a GB interface that resembles the AH ways of doing things, hopefully. With a added in request system, for items you don't in a tab you don't have permissions to withdraw from. |
| 20:00.14 | Kemayo | s/withdraw/deposit/ |
| 20:00.17 | [Liquidor] | Kemayo, deposit* |
| 20:00.20 | [Liquidor] | heh |
| 20:00.49 | [Liquidor] | Kemayo, isn't it already fixed like that? |
| 20:00.50 | Saint-N | i love bginfo.exe |
| 20:00.52 | [Liquidor] | I mean |
| 20:00.55 | Kemayo | Hey, when I first implemented it you had to be the GM to touch the guild bank. There's progress already! :P |
| 20:00.58 | Saint-N | such a useful tool |
| 20:01.01 | [Liquidor] | How do you sort between 2 tabs now then? |
| 20:01.10 | [Liquidor] | I only know of /sort GuildX |
| 20:01.37 | Kemayo | [Liquidor]: Predefined there's "/sort guild", which would sort the entire guild bank across all tabs. |
| 20:01.48 | Kemayo | [Liquidor]: For smaller subdivisions you'd have to make a custom group. |
| 20:02.00 | Dreagar | hmm. i suppose i could write a quick function to print it out into a saved vars file. |
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| 20:02.03 | Dreagar | nm |
| 20:02.07 | [Liquidor] | Petition: Fix Permission checkups !! |
| 20:03.43 | Saint-N | http://warcraft.gothi.ca/warcraft/season-3-items-now-require-personal-and-team-ratings |
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| 20:04.04 | Saint-N | hehe neat |
| 20:04.24 | Saint-N | occasioanly cheat death will just make yer eq suffer 10% durability instead of working right |
| 20:05.22 | NightHawkTheSane | heh, so you cheat death, but your equipment doesn't? :P |
| 20:05.30 | Saint-N | appearantly |
| 20:05.46 | NightHawkTheSane | that would suck to have that go off and have your weapon break in the middle of combat |
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| 20:06.29 | Saint-N | http://warcraft.gothi.ca/warcraft/wow-rogue-talent-cheat-death-to-be-fixed-in-future-patch |
| 20:06.56 | Saint-N | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:06.56 | Saint-N | Blizzard poster Wilhelmas gave a reply saying that a fix will be included in a future patch. |
| 20:07.11 | Saint-N | hahah |
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| 20:07.16 | Saint-N | we know its broken but we |
| 20:07.23 | Saint-N | we are gonna wait til later to fix it |
| 20:11.51 | Taeri | there's an addon for anti-dirge spamming.. http://wow.curse.com/downloads/details/10383/ |
| 20:12.04 | Shirik | what's dirge spamming? |
| 20:12.09 | *** mode/#wowi-lounge [+v Shirik] by ChanServ |
| 20:12.10 | zenzelezz | [Dirge] |
| 20:12.14 | Shirik | ah |
| 20:12.15 | zenzelezz | in every sentence on trade |
| 20:12.21 | Shirik | we don't get that much |
| 20:12.31 | Taeri | EU Sporeggar seems to do so |
| 20:12.34 | Shirik | low pop servers ftw |
| 20:12.47 | Taeri | Eu Sporeggar is a low pop server ;P |
| 20:12.57 | Shirik | well, it's EU |
| 20:13.00 | Shirik | so I'm not surprised :D |
| 20:13.05 | Shirik | <3 jk |
| 20:13.05 | Saint-N | dirge being item linking or the actual word dirge |
| 20:16.48 | Kaso | Why are people spam linking dirge? |
| 20:17.38 | |Jelly| | !c us burning legion nou |
| 20:17.52 | ThraeBot | |Jelly|: Nou, Level 70 Draenei Priest (43/18/0). 11381 HP; 10362 Mana; 226 mana regen; 106 mp5; 551 +spell dmg; 1567 +heal; 4.86% dodge; 423 resilience; 10 shadow resist (+10);[[ TBR: 1336 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/252g32 ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/3xc68y ][ Updated: Tue Dec 11 15:19:31 2007 EST ]] |
| 20:22.16 | Saint-N | prolly not but you're certainly the wierdest |
| 20:24.14 | Lunessa | lol |
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| 20:25.42 | KarlKFI | mmm, irc works at work. that was painless |
| 20:25.54 | Xuerian | Anyone have experience as to how far you can chain Far Sight, or what techniques to use to keep it from falling off? |
| 20:26.03 | KarlKFI | I love not having overlords for sys admins |
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| 20:29.24 | Saint-N | geez how good can your banks web security bewhen you cant use special charcters in your password like (shift-number) characters |
| 20:29.50 | KarlKFI | change banks |
| 20:32.35 | NightHawkTheSane | Saint-N: ... what bank? >.> |
| 20:32.36 | NightHawkTheSane | ;) |
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| 20:34.04 | Saint-N | the bank of america |
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| 20:38.13 | malreth | Saint-N: use a 20 character pass phrase |
| 20:38.24 | Saint-N | i gnerally do in cases like that |
| 20:38.24 | Dreagar | Clad?? u watchin?? |
| 20:38.44 | Saint-N | i just thought it was kind of retarded that they want sexurity but you cant use anything but letters an numbers |
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| 20:40.02 | Cairenn | clad is hopefully still asleep, no pinging him! |
| 20:42.32 | Dreagar | yeah, i see. :( i just need to know what somethin looks like so i don't run into errors. |
| 20:42.33 | Dreagar | local c,z,x,y,note = link:match("^lhref:zcoord:([^:]+):([^:]+):([^:]+):([^:]+):(.+)") |
| 20:42.41 | Cairenn | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:42.41 | Cairenn | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:42.42 | Cairenn | ----------,_, ,_,-----------,_,--------,_, ,_,------ |
| 20:42.42 | Cairenn | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:42.42 | Cairenn | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:42.58 | Dreagar | i need to know how to format the note. it shows up as a tooltip on the minimap when tomtom creates the waypoint. |
| 20:44.02 | Dreagar | at least i think it does. lol |
| 20:45.47 | Thunder_Child | ~lart Cairenn |
| 20:45.47 | purl | pulls out his louisville slugger and uses Cairenn's head to break the homerun record |
| 20:45.59 | Cairenn | hey! |
| 20:46.10 | Thunder_Child | spammer! |
| 20:46.15 | Dreagar | every time i create a tomtom waypoint with my guide. when u mouseover the waypoint in the minimap, it errors out. :( |
| 20:46.16 | XMLworks | ok, so im building on my first xml file and I broke it... http://wowi.pastey.net/78841 |
| 20:46.17 | Cairenn | ~lart Thunder_Child |
| 20:46.17 | purl | hurls dozens of incontinent, insomniac, hungry kittens with tiny little razor-sharp claws and a wide variety of contagious intestinal parasites at Thunder_Child |
| 20:46.33 | Cairenn | rarr! go kittahz! |
| 20:46.34 | Thunder_Child | it would give you a kitten related one.... |
| 20:46.39 | Dreagar | so i'm assuming that the 'note' part of the thing is what's givin me issues |
| 20:47.04 | XMLworks | I am trying to simply display a green frame on the screen if I say "green" in party chat. hopefully later be able to say "red" and a red frame appears |
| 20:47.18 | Dreagar | doesn't show the frame? |
| 20:47.44 | XMLworks | it did, but not anymore, not with this current code http://wowi.pastey.net/78841 |
| 20:48.04 | XMLworks | must I have a seperate <OnEvent> for each frame? |
| 20:48.17 | XMLworks | or can I have one function to handle all color events |
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| 20:50.02 | Dreagar | those two files look the same to me. not sure what the issue is. XML |
| 20:50.22 | XMLworks | they are the same, i was just reposting |
| 20:50.53 | Dreagar | well i think u may need to have the Scripts inside the <frames> rather than outside |
| 20:51.05 | XMLworks | in lua, I am calling the frame with Green:Show(); |
| 20:51.05 | Dreagar | only idea i have. |
| 20:51.29 | XMLworks | i think i tried that, but let me give it another shot |
| 20:51.36 | Dreagar | no no. |
| 20:51.38 | Dreagar | that's not it. |
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| 20:52.01 | Dreagar | u had it working at one point? |
| 20:52.10 | XMLworks | yes |
| 20:52.15 | Dreagar | what did you change? |
| 20:52.19 | XMLworks | all of it was in one frame |
| 20:52.34 | XMLworks | and it worked fine |
| 20:52.48 | Dreagar | so you added Green? |
| 20:52.51 | XMLworks | now I am trying to handle multiple frames with one OnEvent script |
| 20:53.15 | Dreagar | lets see the lua? |
| 20:53.22 | XMLworks | trying to find |
| 20:53.26 | XMLworks | oh, the lua, sure |
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| 20:54.33 | XMLworks | http://wowi.pastey.net/78843 |
| 20:54.43 | XMLworks | it is short and sweet |
| 20:55.10 | XMLworks | ohh, i think i need to pass the name of the frame to the lua now... |
| 20:55.14 | Cairenn | omg! http://consumerist.com/consumer/gross/walmart-junior-panties-suggest-that-your-genitals-are-better-than-credit-cards-332465.php |
| 20:55.38 | Dreagar | well i am thinkin. also one thing to think about. if the parent is hidden, so too will be the child, and Green is a child of PrettyColors |
| 20:55.46 | ScytheBlade1 | ... hahahaha |
| 20:56.09 | Cairenn | http://consumerist.com/consumer/in-poor-taste/walmart-stalking-t+shirt-angers-stalking-victim-305284.php |
| 20:56.45 | XMLworks | well.. we want it hidden, until someone says "green" in party chat |
| 20:59.08 | XMLworks | does it matter that I am using "Green:Show();" in the lua ? |
| 21:00.21 | Dreagar | i'm thinkin you have to just leave PrettyColors as not hidden, and keep it as virtual, and that should work the way u want it to |
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| 21:00.33 | Lunessa | Cairenn: I <3 those. |
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| 21:00.42 | XMLworks | i tried that already |
| 21:00.46 | malreth | virtual frames do not exist |
| 21:00.51 | Cairenn | they're awful! |
| 21:01.01 | Lunessa | Awful funny |
| 21:01.36 | malreth | if you make a frame virtual, it exists as an abstract template |
| 21:01.49 | Lunessa | That's the point of humor. These terrible things we say, we don't mean them. They're funny because they are obviously wrong. |
| 21:02.06 | malreth | and calling Show() on it means nothing... since it doesn't exist |
| 21:02.25 | XMLbreaks | malreth, how do I organize my XML so that I can display different frames on different events? |
| 21:02.25 | Saint-N | lunessa |
| 21:02.31 | Saint-N | you're just taking back the word ;P |
| 21:02.48 | Saint-N | sup mah stalker! |
| 21:03.01 | malreth | XMLbreaks: the question is... do they *have* to be different frames? |
| 21:03.06 | Lunessa | Is this the point where I say "Porch Monkey 4 Life" and get mobbed like in Clerks 2? |
| 21:03.13 | Saint-N | hah |
| 21:03.14 | Thunder_Child | huh, Lunessa didt start off with station....go figure |
| 21:03.15 | malreth | right now, you're just showing different colors |
| 21:03.23 | Saint-N | that was the best part of that movie |
| 21:03.28 | XMLbreaks | mmm, yes i can set the bg color in lua |
| 21:03.29 | Lunessa | I've been logged in for HOURS. |
| 21:03.46 | Thunder_Child | and? |
| 21:03.47 | Dreagar | Bringin back the porch monkey |
| 21:03.53 | malreth | but, for the sake of argument, let's say that they have to be different frames |
| 21:04.14 | malreth | you can specify two separate frames in your xml file |
| 21:04.47 | XMLbreaks | ok |
| 21:05.19 | malreth | or for your current example... assuming http://wowi.pastey.net/78841-2dfb is what you're currently working on |
| 21:05.36 | malreth | just make your parent PrettyColors frame non-virtual |
| 21:05.50 | malreth | you can add more child frames inside of it if you want |
| 21:06.00 | XMLbreaks | can the child frames still inherit from it if it is not virtual? |
| 21:06.51 | malreth | if you're trying to inherit from a virtual frame, they shouldn't be declared as child frames like how you've got |
| 21:07.49 | malreth | <Ui><Frame name="foo" virtual="true"><Frames><Frame inherits="foo"></Frame></Frames></Frame></Ui> is wrong |
| 21:07.59 | XMLbreaks | im not, im just trying to place the <scripts> tag in the correct place so as to be able to control all of the frames |
| 21:08.35 | malreth | <Ui><Frame name="foo" virtual="true"></Frame> <Frame inherits="foo"></Frame></Ui> is correct |
| 21:09.11 | malreth | chew on that for a bit... i gotta step away for a sec |
| 21:25.57 | XMLbreaks | well, I tried a few different things |
| 21:26.16 | malreth | did one of them work? |
| 21:26.33 | XMLbreaks | instead of showing new frames, I am instead trying to use frame:SetBackdropColor(); |
| 21:26.52 | malreth | hrmm... |
| 21:27.00 | malreth | don't think that'll work... |
| 21:27.00 | XMLbreaks | putting that in the lua |
| 21:27.08 | XMLbreaks | yeah, it isnt so far... |
| 21:27.09 | malreth | !api SetBackdropColor |
| 21:27.11 | ThraeBot | malreth: Could not find an example within http://www.wowwiki.com/API_SetBackdropColor |
| 21:27.35 | malreth | you need to have a backdrop specified for your frame for that to work |
| 21:27.40 | malreth | you only have a texture |
| 21:27.48 | XMLbreaks | right |
| 21:28.25 | malreth | see... you have a texture in the XML and you set the Color on it... |
| 21:29.40 | malreth | http://www.wowwiki.com/API_Texture_SetTexture |
| 21:30.00 | malreth | it's not immediately obvious when scanning through the wiki |
| 21:31.05 | XMLbreaks | no, and not extremely descriptive, but I will give it a shot |
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| 21:33.33 | XMLbreaks | i will have to play with that one when i get home |
| 21:33.40 | XMLbreaks | back in a few |
| 21:33.44 | Rayne | I hate looking for car parts |
| 21:33.45 | Rayne | :/ |
| 21:34.39 | malreth | try e-bay :D |
| 21:36.12 | Saint-N | drive to a wrecker ;P |
| 21:36.17 | Saint-N | pick-a-part > * |
| 21:36.20 | Rayne | The problem is, I need the circuit board for my tail lamp, not the light cover itself. |
| 21:36.31 | Rayne | And everyone and their grandmother wants to sell just the cover. :/ |
| 21:38.44 | ScytheBlade1 | Druids are freaking broken healers in PvP (AV, to be specific) |
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| 21:40.56 | Saint-N | what kinna car? |
| 21:43.14 | Rayne | 03 Grand Am SE |
| 21:43.35 | Saint-N | with the ramair? |
| 21:43.41 | Rayne | no |
| 21:43.46 | Saint-N | booo |
| 21:44.05 | Saint-N | anyways... if you dont mind shipping do a search for a place called pick-a-part |
| 21:44.08 | Rayne | Theres one sitting in a JYard like a mile from my house, but ill worry about it after the holidays. |
| 21:44.10 | Saint-N | they should have it |
| 21:44.16 | Rayne | Also ill be in Canada for a month |
| 21:44.17 | Saint-N | or that ;P |
| 21:44.24 | Rayne | No its a GT Model |
| 21:44.25 | Saint-N | where in .ca? |
| 21:44.28 | Rayne | Diff Tails |
| 21:44.31 | Rayne | Edmonton |
| 21:44.34 | Saint-N | eww |
| 21:44.53 | Saint-N | thers a pick-a-part up there too ;) |
| 21:45.25 | Saint-N | if you cant find it easily in edmonton it doesnt exist ;) |
| 21:45.37 | Rayne | I live in the states though |
| 21:45.40 | Rayne | :P |
| 21:45.45 | Saint-N | and? |
| 21:45.55 | Rayne | The site is also under construction |
| 21:46.02 | Saint-N | oh |
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| 21:46.10 | Saint-N | 411.ca ;P |
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| 21:46.36 | Saint-N | or 1-800-403-1212 for phone information ;P |
| 21:47.00 | malreth | :'( |
| 21:47.12 | Saint-N | its key-lime, you understand ;) |
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| 21:48.16 | malreth|hulk | graAaaAAAAAAAAHHHH!!! |
| 21:48.30 | Rayne | O_o |
| 21:49.53 | malreth | i've smashed my own face *and* my shirt and pants are shredded... |
| 21:50.03 | Saint-N | kinky |
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| 21:51.56 | Rayne | do do do |
| 21:52.21 | Saint-N | Gir, stay away from the machine, you're infecting it with stupid! |
| 21:53.46 | Industrial | Anyone know of fast firefox alternatives for windows excluding opera and anything cygwin/x based? |
| 21:53.52 | Industrial | (and IE, ofc) |
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| 21:54.23 | malreth | safari? |
| 21:54.36 | Kaso | konqueror also perhaps |
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| 21:55.38 | Rayne | NO |
| 21:55.38 | Rayne | NO |
| 21:55.40 | Rayne | NO |
| 21:55.42 | Rayne | OMG NO |
| 21:55.48 | |Jelly| | Spam less imo. |
| 21:55.54 | Rayne | WHY MUST CARTOON NETWORK RAPE EVERYTHING GOOD IN MY CHILDHOOD |
| 21:56.12 | malreth | that's not rape... THIS is rape: http://www.kristofkintera.com/pages-work/coitus-bizzarus/coitus-bizzarus-video.htm |
| 21:56.25 | Saint-N | safari, iceweasel are all i know industrial |
| 21:56.49 | Kaso | iceweasel is firefox |
| 21:56.50 | Rayne | http://www.tvsquad.com/2007/06/25/new-transformers-series-coming-to-cartoon-network/ |
| 21:56.51 | Rayne | ... |
| 21:56.53 | Saint-N | iceweasel is the gnu side of firefox and "might compile in cyg, but not 100% |
| 21:56.57 | Rayne | whyyyyyyyyyyyyy ;_; |
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| 21:57.20 | Saint-N | i think camoino is win32 as well |
| 21:57.23 | Saint-N | err camino |
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| 21:59.11 | Saint-N | http://kmeleon.sourceforge.net/shots.php |
| 22:02.42 | Industrial | < malreth> safari? |
| 22:02.44 | Industrial | for windows |
| 22:02.48 | Industrial | malreth: same |
| 22:02.59 | malreth | yah... apple released a beta a while back |
| 22:03.03 | Industrial | :o |
| 22:03.08 | Saint-N | yeah beta 3 came out |
| 22:03.13 | Saint-N | it sucks crap though |
| 22:03.13 | Industrial | well its gotta be fast |
| 22:03.18 | Saint-N | safari is a horrible browser |
| 22:03.18 | Industrial | handle 50 tabs without 2s lags |
| 22:03.20 | Industrial | etc |
| 22:03.37 | malreth | keep in mind it *is* beta for a reason |
| 22:03.39 | Saint-N | k-melon seems to be whatcha want indust ;P |
| 22:03.49 | Saint-N | malreth: im talking about the osx version |
| 22:03.58 | Saint-N | heh the winders version is slightly crappier |
| 22:04.11 | Industrial | ill check kmeleon out |
| 22:04.22 | malreth | huh? "Anyone know of fast firefox alternatives for windows excluding opera and anything cygwin/x based?" |
| 22:04.49 | malreth | oh... sorry.. got my replies mixed up |
| 22:05.19 | malreth | So.. What makes Safari a horrible browser? |
| 22:06.16 | Industrial | I want to try something different because I don't like the way firefox is going |
| 22:06.27 | Kaso | which way is that? |
| 22:06.45 | Industrial | I like my apps really simple and doing the things they were meant to do in the beginning eg browser with tabs and thats it |
| 22:07.02 | Industrial | none of that social networking crap, bookmarks, rss "integration" etc |
| 22:07.24 | Industrial | instead when i open up 50 tabs its lagging like hell |
| 22:07.25 | Lunessa | malreth: nothing. There is one thing it doesn't do by default (show URLs of hyperlinks on hover) that I I use a plug-in for. |
| 22:07.56 | malreth | Cmd-/ to show the status bar? |
| 22:08.06 | Lunessa | Though mostly, I use FireFox because "some call it crappy, but I call it love" |
| 22:08.12 | Kaso | Mobile Safari frustrates me very much but i doubt that is a fair comparison |
| 22:08.45 | Lunessa | malreth: ... don't I just feel like a n00b. |
| 22:09.14 | Lunessa | kd3: I used to work with a bunch of the original gecko programmers. |
| 22:09.50 | kd3 | back in the aohell days or the netscape days? |
| 22:10.08 | Lunessa | I was a programmer at AOL. |
| 22:10.30 | kd3 | neat |
| 22:10.32 | Lunessa | Pre-Netscape acquisition; and post as well. |
| 22:10.36 | ScytheBlade1 | I BLAME YOU |
| 22:10.58 | Lunessa | That's right bitches, I made the internet a household item. HATE ME! |
| 22:12.17 | KarlKFI | i started with aol |
| 22:12.28 | Lunessa | ... Sarcasm doesn't work well in IRC... |
| 22:12.30 | Thunder_Child | so did i...i feel so ashamed |
| 22:12.35 | KarlKFI | in fact this is my nick that i used when i started aol |
| 22:12.38 | kd3 | prodigy, woo! |
| 22:13.00 | kd3 | woo for 9800 bps modems on a 386 |
| 22:13.22 | malreth | i signed up with AOL back in the day for the minimum amount of time necessary... to download a BBS terminal program |
| 22:13.36 | malreth | and promptly canceled the account |
| 22:14.01 | malreth | AOL then happily charged me for three months thereafter |
| 22:14.28 | kd3 | no free 30 day trial floppy for you? |
| 22:14.39 | KarlKFI | u didn't get the first 5million hours free? |
| 22:14.51 | ScytheBlade1 | Question to any healer here: how do you heal in AV? |
| 22:14.56 | malreth | yep... free 30 day trial |
| 22:15.06 | Lunessa | heh - I was there from April of '94 - Dec 31, 1999. |
| 22:15.12 | KarlKFI | scythe: it's called a premade |
| 22:15.13 | malreth | or whatever it was... actually i think it was a X hours free thing |
| 22:15.30 | malreth | you still had to give them a credit card number |
| 22:15.33 | bleeter | 09:13 < kd3> woo for 9800 bps modems on a 386 << fkn luxery |
| 22:15.34 | Thunder_Child | ya, i had multiple years of free AOL |
| 22:15.45 | Thunder_Child | i think i paied 3 times or so |
| 22:15.51 | KarlKFI | they usually took the number of hours in a 32 day month and used that so it looked like more than a month but u had to use it in the first month |
| 22:16.45 | KarlKFI | so like 768 FREE! |
| 22:16.48 | KarlKFI | hours* |
| 22:17.38 | KarlKFI | wow, worked till dec 31 1999, scared of the millenium bug at aol? |
| 22:17.58 | Lunessa | I started out in Tech Support, moved over to running the Client beta program for Windows, and them moved into programming. It was a wild ride. |
| 22:18.23 | ScytheBlade1 | So you're the person I can injure for AOL's "problems" |
| 22:18.25 | Lunessa | No, I left because I had a crap ton of money and I was burnt out after 5.5 years of 15+hour days. |
| 22:18.34 | ScytheBlade1 | Or at least "a" person |
| 22:18.58 | KarlKFI | aol ihas njured itself enough, hasn't it? |
| 22:19.26 | Lunessa | be warned, I live in a part of the country where gun ownership is a laudable thing, and shooting intruders gets you a apt on the back from the police. |
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| 22:19.41 | ScytheBlade1 | Sorry, but when I tell AOL to uninstall itself, I expect it to remove itself |
| 22:19.49 | ScytheBlade1 | Not one of the ninteen versions that are installed |
| 22:20.04 | KarlKFI | that's more of a windows thing i would imagine |
| 22:20.12 | malreth | In Texas, when you're born you're issued your SSN and your gun. |
| 22:20.14 | ScytheBlade1 | Other than that, I actually never had any problems with the software causing crap |
| 22:20.17 | KarlKFI | ever tried downgrading IE? |
| 22:20.18 | kd3 | meh. the funny thing about the y2k problem... I'm more worried about the 2038 problem |
| 22:20.30 | Lunessa | Actually the Windows95/ME installer/unistaller were kludgey |
| 22:20.42 | ScytheBlade1 | Yeah, they really were. It was a pain. |
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| 22:20.44 | KarlKFI | of course it was... |
| 22:20.55 | KarlKFI | and the fact that it came preinstalled didn't help |
| 22:21.05 | Lunessa | Our implementation was just as shitty as everyone else's. |
| 22:21.20 | ScytheBlade1 | Lunessa: as long as you weren't in charge of marketing, I can tolerate your presense. ;) |
| 22:21.26 | ScytheBlade1 | (More of that sarcasm over IRC bit) |
| 22:21.28 | KarlKFI | see now i didn't have any trouble uninstalling the mac one |
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| 22:21.33 | KarlKFI | just delete the folder |
| 22:21.52 | malreth | KarlKFI: yeah... same thing here. :) |
| 22:21.57 | Lunessa | Hah. I was a programmer. The only thing I had to do with marketing was dating a girl over there who was ... SMOKIN' |
| 22:22.03 | ScytheBlade1 | lol |
| 22:22.10 | malreth | i don't date smokers |
| 22:22.21 | KarlKFI | the har4dest part was getting non-aol browsers to work with aol and being able to play warcraft1,2 and diablo online |
| 22:22.43 | Lunessa | malreth: The girl could start a forest fire by driving by on the freeway. I almost wish I'd managed to keep her... |
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| 22:23.10 | KarlKFI | Lunessa, you need a sn that doesn't end in a |
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| 22:23.24 | Lunessa | Someone already has Unkle |
| 22:23.59 | Lunessa | And I'm not sure my going by Lothay would be much better. |
| 22:24.21 | KarlKFI | i was thinking LunessaMan |
| 22:24.36 | KarlKFI | or something to that effect |
| 22:24.50 | Lunessa | I chose this nick ot match what I post with on the WoW forums. |
| 22:25.16 | KarlKFI | female wow char? |
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| 22:25.24 | XMLbreaks | malreth, Texture:SetTexture() works perfectly |
| 22:25.33 | XMLbreaks | thank you for finding that |
| 22:25.48 | malreth | XMLbreaks: you get to wear the "I'M SUPER SMRT" cape today |
| 22:25.56 | Dreagar | is there a command to clear all waypoints on the worldmap? |
| 22:26.04 | KarlKFI | please tell me you did not name a texture 'Texture' |
| 22:26.13 | malreth | Dreagar: what map addon? |
| 22:26.19 | Dreagar | none. default world map |
| 22:26.27 | malreth | KarlKFI: i think he's talking about the Object name... |
| 22:26.35 | JoshBorke | ~lart malreth |
| 22:26.36 | purl | breaks out the Hoover and sucks up malreth |
| 22:27.01 | malreth | seems normal to me coming from C++ and all |
| 22:27.15 | malreth | crud! |
| 22:27.15 | Dreagar | TomTom places waypoints on teh worldmap, well astrolabe does, but there's no provision to remove them except in tomtom there's somethin that'll get rid of it when you've arrived. (which i can't find) |
| 22:27.16 | malreth | gotta run |
| 22:27.31 | Lunessa | KarlKFI: yeah, my characters are about 50/50 mix sex-wise. |
| 22:27.48 | Dreagar | i thought about Region:ClearAllPoints() but what region? |
| 22:28.43 | KarlKFI | it can't be that hard to find |
| 22:28.50 | Industrial | Saint-N: thanks, kmeleon seem exactly what I want. |
| 22:28.54 | KarlKFI | I'm sure astrolab has a remove function |
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| 22:30.04 | Dreagar | hmm. it puts the entry for the worldmap waypoint in a TomTom saved vars file, i gotta figure out how to simply clear that file.. ? |
| 22:30.07 | Dreagar | any ideas? |
| 22:30.39 | KarlKFI | if it's a saved var it's in a global var table |
| 22:32.33 | ScytheBlade1 | I'm slowly getting ahold of this "heal everyone quickly" thing |
| 22:32.48 | ScytheBlade1 | 100k healing total, #1 in this AV by a 30k margin to a #2 hordie |
| 22:33.52 | Dreagar | hmm. so i could call it from my addon? |
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| 22:35.12 | Dreagar | i think i may have to wait and ask clad. :( |
| 22:35.35 | Rayne | omg |
| 22:35.43 | Rayne | I feel so conformist with this UI im building |
| 22:36.12 | ScytheBlade1 | Conformist? |
| 22:36.20 | Rayne | one sec |
| 22:37.30 | Thunder_Child | conformist, as in conforming to standard styles |
| 22:37.52 | ScytheBlade1 | I know what the word means |
| 22:37.58 | Thunder_Child | i know |
| 22:38.01 | Thunder_Child | but i was bored |
| 22:39.16 | Rayne | http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v442/SinOfDreams/WoWScrnShot_121107_173708.jpg WIP, everythings still getting moved around |
| 22:39.39 | ScytheBlade1 | I approve already |
| 22:40.11 | ScytheBlade1 | http://images.aboveaverageurl.com/WoW/2.2/SboUI-2.2.jpg |
| 22:40.13 | Rayne | I still have NO idea what im going to do with the Party frames |
| 22:40.16 | ScytheBlade1 | Should be self explanatory |
| 22:41.08 | Dreagar | blast. |
| 22:42.00 | Lunessa | Rayne: I'd do them in a horizontal row, below either the chat frame or your action bars. |
| 22:42.47 | Rayne | I was thinking centered in the bottom too |
| 22:43.09 | Rayne | Cause I know for a fact, thats where Grid is going |
| 22:44.34 | Rayne | My only current nitpick with it... |
| 22:45.30 | Rayne | http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v442/SinOfDreams/WoWScrnShot_121107_174329.jpg The chat box is a little larger than the UI and Action Bar box, and I dont want to shrink the daylights out of the chatbox, nor make the UF box look too bulky. |
| 22:45.36 | Thunder_Child | http://gizmodo.com/gadgets/software/microsoft-offers-free-software-in-exchange-for-your-privacy-332448.php |
| 22:45.43 | Thunder_Child | VM ftw! |
| 22:46.59 | Lunessa | Rayne: Most people de-emphasize chat. I say that's a poor choice. This is a social game and chat is critical. |
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| 22:49.01 | Lunessa | fire alarm... gg |
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| 22:52.15 | Thunder_Child | lol @ http://gizmodo.com/gadgets/gadgets/octopus-toy-brings-new-meaning-to-octopussy-332372.php (though damn them puns) |
| 22:52.16 | clad|sleep | Dreagar: /way reset |
| 22:52.18 | clad|sleep | its always been there |
| 22:53.12 | cladhaire | in addition to being listed on the addons webpage |
| 22:53.54 | Dreagar | Clad! |
| 22:54.32 | Dreagar | hmm. /way reset will remove waypoints from the worldmap? |
| 22:54.39 | cladhaire | yes |
| 22:54.45 | cladhaire | you can also do /way reset zonename |
| 22:54.50 | cladhaire | and it'll just remove them from the zone |
| 22:55.02 | cladhaire | this has been listed on the TomTom addon webpage, since the addon came out, FYI |
| 22:55.47 | Dreagar | omg. well that'll teach me. i was lookin thru the lua to find somethin. lol |
| 22:56.29 | cladhaire | heh |
| 22:56.50 | Dreagar | lemme see if i can make it work myself before i ask any other stupid questions. lol |
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| 22:58.31 | Dreagar | ok. that was fast. lol. how do i run a slash command in an addon? |
| 22:58.34 | Dreagar | in lua? |
| 22:58.49 | Dreagar | TomTom:way reset? |
| 22:59.15 | cladhaire | no |
| 22:59.19 | Cide | Dreagar: www.wowwiki.com |
| 22:59.21 | Dreagar | didn't think so |
| 22:59.22 | Cide | for GOD'S SAKE |
| 22:59.28 | cladhaire | why do you ned to run it programtically? |
| 22:59.34 | cladhaire | is this for the damn leveling guide? |
| 22:59.57 | Dreagar | .. yea |
| 23:00.23 | cladhaire | sorry |
| 23:00.29 | cladhaire | i didn't mean it to come across like that |
| 23:00.36 | cladhaire | i have distaste for it, but not that much :P |
| 23:00.42 | cHao | heh |
| 23:00.46 | Thunder_Child | lies! |
| 23:00.47 | cladhaire | well i'd look at the handler for /way reset |
| 23:00.50 | cladhaire | and figure out how to remove them yourself |
| 23:00.55 | cladhaire | so you can selectively remove waypoints |
| 23:01.02 | cladhaire | until i release the next version of tomtom |
| 23:01.43 | Dreagar | oh, i really just wanna get rid of all of em. |
| 23:01.52 | cHao | i guess i shouldn't ask what this "leveling guide" is that you have such a distaste for... :) |
| 23:01.55 | Dreagar | i'll see what i figure tho |
| 23:01.57 | Lunessa | false alarm. |
| 23:02.10 | Thunder_Child | to bad Lunessa |
| 23:02.15 | cladhaire | then you can run the handler |
| 23:02.16 | Thunder_Child | fire is fun |
| 23:02.27 | Lunessa | Not if it means I have to look for a new job... |
| 23:02.28 | cladhaire | figuring out how shouldn't be hard, or you can simply call the slash command handler via the SLASH_CMD global |
| 23:02.58 | Dreagar | could i also do DEFAULT_CHAT_MESSAGE:AddMessage("/way reset"); |
| 23:03.22 | ScytheBlade1 | No |
| 23:03.25 | cHao | i think that'd just put the text in the chat window...but eh. |
| 23:03.28 | ScytheBlade1 | That'll simply add "/way reset" to the chat box |
| 23:03.53 | cHao | i'm pretty new to the addon stuff myself :) |
| 23:04.01 | Dreagar | ahh too good to be true. one of these days. my first guess will be right. lol |
| 23:08.27 | ScytheBlade1 | When that day comes, you won't be guessing. ;) |
| 23:11.08 | cHao | does anyone know of a way to see whether an account is a trial account, other than by trying to trade with them or something? |
| 23:11.45 | Rayne | do do do |
| 23:13.54 | Shirik | cHao: Pretty sure you wouldn't have access to that |
| 23:13.57 | Shirik | that seems pretty privileged |
| 23:14.37 | cHao | it can't be but so privileged -- it affects the ways the trial players and the paid ones can interact... |
| 23:14.45 | Shirik | barely |
| 23:15.17 | Shirik | in fact, to the point where if you're not extremely close to me you wouldn't even know |
| 23:15.59 | cHao | hrm |
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| 23:16.30 | Intangir | mikma: hey you there? |
| 23:16.35 | Intangir | you still getting errors on that addon? |
| 23:16.47 | Intangir | i tried to run without any other addons again last night, and i couldnt seem to reproduce any errors again |
| 23:16.53 | Intangir | even htough i thought i had gotten some before... |
| 23:17.10 | cHao | so blocking group invites from trial accounts probably isn't going to be an option... :P |
| 23:17.58 | Shirik | yup |
| 23:18.11 | Shirik | And in all honesty I don't see why you should have access to that information |
| 23:18.12 | Intangir | whats up? |
| 23:18.33 | Shirik | I know it would be nice to block those kinds of spammers, but it's also an invasion of privacy on those trying to check out the game |
| 23:18.36 | mikma | Intangir: haven't been playing much lately |
| 23:19.07 | Intangir | mikma: well if your using the newest version and see some. ill try and fix them if you send me them |
| 23:19.07 | Shirik | And personally I'm not one who believes in sacrificing legit users to take care of problematic ones |
| 23:19.12 | Intangir | you can just whsiper me a link to the errors any time |
| 23:19.14 | Dreagar | SLASH_TomTom_cmd_way.Way_Reset(); ? |
| 23:19.23 | Intangir | or post them on the http://intangir.googlecode.com page |
| 23:19.51 | Intangir | Shirik: i agree with that |
| 23:20.11 | Dreagar | i swear i've tried every combination i can think of to get this working and i'm just not thinkin of the right one |
| 23:20.21 | Cide | Dreagar: because you're entirely, completely wrong |
| 23:20.25 | Cide | www.wowwiki.com |
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| 23:20.31 | cHao | i'm not for it either. i just don't want to go and block the lvl 1's half a world away, only to have them go out, kill a dozen wolves, and be able to spam me again. :P |
| 23:20.33 | Cide | read. learn. do. |
| 23:20.38 | Intangir | Dreagar: what are you talking about? |
| 23:20.48 | Cide | he's stupid |
| 23:20.58 | Cide | s/ / being stupid / |
| 23:21.02 | Cide | oops. |
| 23:21.12 | Cairenn | rofl |
| 23:21.16 | Intangir | cHao: i saw this one addon, that when someone not on your friends list or guild messages you, it makes them type you a special keyword before you actually see it |
| 23:21.19 | Intangir | seems handy |
| 23:21.20 | Intangir | i dont use it |
| 23:21.25 | Intangir | but if you really get spammed alot that would be ideal |
| 23:21.30 | Intangir | i dont get spammed anymore.. like AT ALL |
| 23:21.34 | Intangir | on mug'thol |
| 23:21.41 | Intangir | i havent been spammed for a couple months at least |
| 23:21.48 | Intangir | im not usually on till after 9pm though maybe thats part of it |
| 23:21.49 | foxlit | If that solution became widely deployed, it would be easily circumvented |
| 23:21.55 | foxlit | So it's kind of lousy |
| 23:21.55 | ScytheBlade1 | Mmm, doomhammer. Where the people outnumber the spammers to the point where you simply don't get spams. |
| 23:22.16 | Intangir | foxlit: still good for now |
| 23:22.29 | Intangir | try having a china gold farmer on your aim list who wont stop messaging you |
| 23:22.33 | Intangir | and for some reason your block doesnt work |
| 23:22.37 | cHao | heh |
| 23:22.46 | Dreagar | i know im wrong. and i'm readin the stupid wiki page by freakin page with everything about damn slash commands and i can't find anyting other than how to damn create the stupid things |
| 23:23.02 | Cide | exactly |
| 23:23.07 | Cide | if you know how to create them |
| 23:23.14 | Cide | can't you figure out how TomTom's are created? |
| 23:23.21 | ScytheBlade1 | http://www.wowwiki.com/HOWTO:_Create_a_Slash_Command |
| 23:23.23 | Cide | read. learn. do. |
| 23:23.48 | Lunessa | or you could, you know, read the Tom-Tom's code... |
| 23:24.03 | Dreagar | grrrr. |
| 23:24.05 | Lunessa | clad is a very slick programmer and his code is VERY readable. |
| 23:24.22 | Shirik | lies |
| 23:24.23 | Dreagar | I know how they are created. I'm not sure how to call the slash command from within a different addon. |
| 23:24.30 | Shirik | cladhaire is a noob |
| 23:24.34 | cHao | seems simple enough to call SlashCmdList["ADDONNAME"](...) |
| 23:24.41 | cladhaire | Lunessa: tomtom kinda sucks to read |
| 23:24.42 | Cide | you know |
| 23:24.42 | Shirik | you all act like he wrote a book on WoW Lua or something |
| 23:24.44 | ScytheBlade1 | SlashCmdList["MYSCRIPT"](); |
| 23:24.46 | Cide | if you just give him all the answers |
| 23:24.53 | Cide | he'll sit here and just ask all the fucking time |
| 23:24.58 | ScytheBlade1 | Boo @ Cide |
| 23:24.59 | Cide | but maybe I'm only the one annoyed by that. |
| 23:25.01 | ScytheBlade1 | That's all I ever doo ;P |
| 23:25.03 | ScytheBlade1 | *do |
| 23:25.06 | Shirik | Cide: Totally agree |
| 23:25.27 | Lunessa | hah... I haven't read that, but PerfectRaid and gctweak weren't bad.. so I assumed. My bad. :P |
| 23:25.33 | Shirik | "Give a man a fish, he eats for a day" |
| 23:25.49 | Lunessa | QTF |
| 23:25.54 | Lunessa | QFT even |
| 23:26.01 | Valaron|Work | Wee! |
| 23:26.09 | Taeri | "give a man a fishing pole, and he'll whine about why he couldn't just get a fish instead" ;p |
| 23:26.12 | foxlit | Poison the fish, and he'll not spend a day hungry in his remaining life. |
| 23:26.23 | Shirik | wtf >< |
| 23:26.26 | ScytheBlade1 | Haha |
| 23:26.28 | cHao | lol |
| 23:26.30 | ScytheBlade1 | Yes @ poison |
| 23:26.56 | Shirik | ~weather kdab |
| 23:27.16 | cHao | thanks for sharing? |
| 23:27.20 | Taeri | damnit, I need some method of making my boyfriend make me food more often |
| 23:27.37 | Shirik | ~lart cHao |
| 23:27.37 | purl | strangles cHao with a doohicky mouse cord |
| 23:27.57 | cHao | lol |
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| 23:28.57 | cladhaire | Lunessa: its better than most people |
| 23:29.14 | cladhaire | but lots of my code begins in proof of concept mode |
| 23:29.16 | cladhaire | just making sure i can actually do what i want to do |
| 23:29.20 | cladhaire | i tend to rush that, and forget my good design decisions along the way, at times |
| 23:29.28 | Lunessa | cladhaire: *nod* Which is why I said you were slick and your code is readable. |
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| 23:30.26 | foxlit | You wouldn't believe how many times I fixed the same issue |
| 23:32.27 | Dreagar | ok, so i've got part of it. just can't figure the rest. |
| 23:32.37 | Cide | sucks to be you. |
| 23:32.43 | Dreagar | TomTom.cmd_way:Way_Reset();? |
| 23:32.57 | Cide | source_code()? |
| 23:33.09 | Shirik | sigh |
| 23:33.12 | Shirik | adobe acrobat ftl! |
| 23:33.12 | Dreagar | looking at the source code. |
| 23:33.22 | foxlit | They still call it acrobat? |
| 23:33.23 | Shirik | It can't print pages if the page numers are numbered differently |
| 23:33.32 | Shirik | whatever they call it |
| 23:33.36 | Shirik | I can't print page 17! |
| 23:33.45 | Shirik | Because page 17 is known both as page 17 and 39 |
| 23:33.45 | foxlit | That just sounds odd |
| 23:33.53 | Shirik | And I do page 17 and it picks the other 17 |
| 23:33.57 | Shirik | and I do page 39 and it does the other 39 |
| 23:33.59 | Shirik | ... |
| 23:34.11 | cHao | ....? |
| 23:34.12 | foxlit | Cool! |
| 23:34.22 | foxlit | Select one, print selection? |
| 23:34.22 | Shirik | The only way I can print it out is if I do "current page" |
| 23:34.28 | Shirik | But I need to print 500 pages! |
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| 23:34.49 | cHao | so, print the whole thing, then do the missing pages? |
| 23:34.52 | Dreagar | nil. sigh. and apparently it's so easy i should be able to find it somewhere. |
| 23:35.18 | Cide | yes, you should |
| 23:35.23 | Cide | www.lua.org/pil might help |
| 23:35.57 | Cide | if you've read it all every time I've linked it to you, you should either know lua very well, or you should probably not be a programmer |
| 23:36.10 | Cide | given that I've linked it like 10 times |
| 23:36.23 | Cide | because you're misunderstanding pretty simple lua concepts |
| 23:36.47 | Cide | and yes, I'm a huge asshole |
| 23:36.55 | Cide | (sorry) |
| 23:36.56 | cHao | lol |
| 23:36.57 | NightHawkTheSane | and that's why we love you. |
| 23:37.01 | KarlKFI | cide's such a meany |
| 23:37.18 | cladhaire | what cide is trying to say |
| 23:37.30 | cladhaire | is the people in this channel are willing to help you understand and talk through concepts based on code or your understandings |
| 23:37.35 | ScytheBlade1 | 18:36 <+Cide> and yes, I'm a huge asshole |
| 23:37.39 | ScytheBlade1 | Sounds pretty clear to me. |
| 23:37.43 | KarlKFI | Recode CTRA! |
| 23:37.46 | cladhaire | they're not, however, willing to play code roulette with you guessing picking and choosing until you finally hit on the right code |
| 23:37.49 | ScytheBlade1 | Not seeing any uh, misinterpreation there |
| 23:37.51 | ScytheBlade1 | ;) |
| 23:37.52 | KarlKFI | >.> <.< |
| 23:37.53 | Cide | KarlKFI: WIP |
| 23:38.11 | KarlKFI | uh huh, SURE it is |
| 23:38.20 | Cide | yup |
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| 23:38.30 | KarlKFI | screenshots or it didn't happen |
| 23:38.34 | Cide | to be released the day after DNF |
| 23:38.49 | ScytheBlade1 | DNF? |
| 23:38.56 | ScytheBlade1 | Oh |
| 23:38.56 | ScytheBlade1 | Ha |
| 23:39.03 | ScytheBlade1 | Yeah that's about right |
| 23:39.09 | Dreagar | as i've told you all in the past. i'm NOT a programmer. i'm tryin to learn. all i've done is two classes in Java in school. and had to damn drop out because my daughter was born and now i'm doing myvery best to learn it all on my own because no one thinks i damn well can and i want to help a friend who knows even less than me. i'm doin my damn best here and i apologize for not havin the knowledge you all take for granted. |
| 23:39.30 | KarlKFI | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Duke_Nukem_Forever |
| 23:39.33 | Cairenn | deep breath everyone |
| 23:39.46 | Cide | www.cide.ws/media/ctra2.jpg |
| 23:39.56 | kergoth | Dreagar: they don't take it for granted, they just won't do your work or reading for you. |
| 23:40.05 | KarlKFI | lawl cidee |
| 23:40.30 | KarlKFI | refactoring all the file names doesn't count! |
| 23:40.44 | Cide | oh noes, I be caught! |
| 23:41.02 | Dreagar | allright. i get u. you're not teachers or anything. |
| 23:41.10 | Cide | we can be |
| 23:41.11 | KarlKFI | clad is! |
| 23:41.14 | Cide | but teachers get paid |
| 23:41.18 | cladhaire | lies |
| 23:41.18 | cHao | :) |
| 23:41.21 | KarlKFI | :P |
| 23:41.25 | NightHawkTheSane | teachers get to fail you for using words like 'u' |
| 23:41.27 | KarlKFI | wants to be? |
| 23:41.36 | NightHawkTheSane | we, on the other hand, only have verbal degradation. |
| 23:41.38 | Taeri | My teacher teached me how to read stuff, so I could learn on my own. |
| 23:41.49 | foxlit | weak, Taeri. |
| 23:41.53 | cHao | teached? :) |
| 23:41.54 | Cide | Dreagar: we don't take much knowledge for granted. |
| 23:41.55 | foxlit | Figure out how to read on your own next time! |
| 23:42.01 | Taeri | tought(?) |
| 23:42.05 | foxlit | taught |
| 23:42.06 | cHao | "taught" |
| 23:42.07 | KarlKFI | i just ate $5 of misc candy.... entering sugar coma |
| 23:42.10 | Kaso | your teacher taught you to spell well |
| 23:42.11 | Taeri | right! |
| 23:42.13 | Kaso | (im so slow) |
| 23:42.30 | Cide | Dreagar: however, if I see that you can't comprehend basic lua syntax or concepts, I'll just forward you to www.lua.org/pil |
| 23:42.34 | Cide | it's an excellent resource for learning lua |
| 23:42.44 | KarlKFI | it's also written like a manual |
| 23:42.50 | NightHawkTheSane | KarlKFI: only $5? either it was cheapass candy and that's not a -sugar- coma, or your have a low tolerance :P |
| 23:43.06 | Cide | while I could probably teach you, PIL likely does a way better job |
| 23:43.09 | KarlKFI | it was from a candy store so it was like a pound |
| 23:43.23 | KarlKFI | mostly sour gumi things |
| 23:43.32 | Lunessa | wtf is it with every damned student doing projects or papers on WoW? I mean FFS... |
| 23:43.50 | Taeri | Kaso: my english teacher was a russian who barely even spoke english. |
| 23:44.01 | KarlKFI | lets see, we spend copious hours and months playing it... why not get school credit? |
| 23:44.02 | Lunessa | Login to any of my regular forums "please fill out my (poorly written) research survey so I can do a pjt on WoW" |
| 23:44.15 | Kaso | Seems like a bad choice for an english teacher.. |
| 23:44.38 | Taeri | Kaso: We tried telling the school that, but they kept slapping her degrees in our faces. |
| 23:44.40 | KarlKFI | lawl Lunessa, I blam eme. |
| 23:45.03 | Taeri | We didn't understand her english OR norwegian (I'm Norwegian!) |
| 23:45.18 | NightHawkTheSane | Lunessa: thats when you go to their surveys and do your best to massively skew their data |
| 23:45.28 | KarlKFI | http://www.karlkfi.com/WoW/Survey/Intro.html |
| 23:45.34 | Lunessa | Their data are already massively skewed. |
| 23:46.01 | NightHawkTheSane | "is", but yeah, probably |
| 23:46.28 | cogwheel | NightHawkTheSane: wrong |
| 23:46.35 | foxlit | "I also plugged the survey on the WoW User Interface Forum." |
| 23:46.37 | cogwheel | data is the plural of datum |
| 23:46.43 | foxlit | plugged is such a nice word! |
| 23:47.02 | NightHawkTheSane | cogwheel: oh? fair enough, It just looked incorrect as it was. |
| 23:47.15 | cogwheel | s/d/s/ |
| 23:47.21 | cogwheel | O.o |
| 23:47.27 | NightHawkTheSane | hehe |
| 23:47.27 | Cide | haha |
| 23:47.30 | Cairenn | heh, can't sub on emotes |
| 23:47.43 | cogwheel | i figured it would do nothing |
| 23:47.45 | NightHawkTheSane | and it's not precisely clever about it's replacements either. |
| 23:47.56 | KarlKFI | Wrong: sata is a hdd interface |
| 23:48.00 | cogwheel | s/it/her/ |
| 23:48.05 | cogwheel | s/her/she/ |
| 23:49.00 | foxlit | "Note: The ranges I chose for this question were a little arbitrary. They are user groups that I suspect to exist: kids, high-schoolers, college age, adults, and old people." qq, 46+ is old |
| 23:49.25 | Cairenn | "adults and old people" ... o.O |
| 23:49.46 | KarlKFI | how would you break it down? |
| 23:49.56 | KarlKFI | mature adults? |
| 23:49.59 | Thunder_Child | i think 55+ is old now |
| 23:50.07 | foxlit | Find out what the retirement age is |
| 23:50.10 | NightHawkTheSane | pfft. 30+ is old! :P |
| 23:50.15 | Cairenn | by definition, "college age" (with the rare exception) and "old people" are all "adults" |
| 23:50.17 | Cairenn | honestly |
| 23:50.25 | NightHawkTheSane | (retirement is 65, as far as I recall) |
| 23:50.41 | Cairenn | depends on the country, no doubt |
| 23:50.51 | NightHawkTheSane | True, I meant in the US. |
| 23:50.52 | Thunder_Child | Cairenn, when you start having to wear dipers again, your not an "adult" |
| 23:51.07 | cHao | lol |
| 23:51.12 | Cairenn | also, depends on the field of work - try telling a 65 year old farmer that he is "retired" |
| 23:51.34 | KarlKFI | ok, but my grandparents are fully functional and autonomous and are well over 75 and i would call them old... |
| 23:51.38 | Dreagar | pil. a page that has a million different links. and a hundred different things to look at to someone who only really 'gets' part of it. is like looking for a needle in a haystack for me. look thru this stuff you don't understand completely, to figure out what it is you're not understanding. grats. i give up. really don't need the 20 bucks i was gettin for writin the thing anyways. |
| 23:51.38 | cogwheel | I think "seniors" would have worked a bit better |
| 23:51.44 | Cairenn | cogwheel: indeed |
| 23:52.12 | cogwheel | O.O |
| 23:52.28 | cogwheel | Dreagar: you were getting ripped off imo |
| 23:52.39 | NightHawkTheSane | Cairenn: well, I'm referring fairly specifically to the age at which you can retire and begin to claim full SS benefits. Beyond that, there's really no other definable age for retirement. It's whenever you can and want to. :P |
| 23:52.48 | cHao | yeah....$20 is chump change for programming work...lol |
| 23:53.21 | foxlit | print("Hello world"); -- done, wru, $20? |
| 23:53.46 | NightHawkTheSane | foxlit: pfft. Add a couple lines of comments, and that's easily $100 at least. ;) |
| 23:53.46 | KarlKFI | well considering the number 46+ that responded was like 1.16% .... |
| 23:53.59 | cHao | lol |
| 23:54.00 | KarlKFI | that and it was more of an afterthought and not really the purpose of the survey |
| 23:54.19 | Dreagar | yer right tho Cide. you're not bein an asshole. i need to understand that stuff if i'm gonna keep doin this. and if the only way is to read and reread pil till i have it figured out, well it's that or quit. and since i'm quarantined at home with my daughter 24/7... i have nothing else to do. i promise to try not to ask more questions. |
| 23:54.23 | Cide | oh. |
| 23:54.25 | Cide | I am an asshole |
| 23:54.31 | Cide | no doubt about it |
| 23:54.41 | KarlKFI | had i had better survey software I would have had them just input their age |
| 23:54.45 | foxlit | Couldn't fit in http://despair.com/giveup.html -- but that kitten is cute :) |
| 23:54.54 | foxlit | I would've gone for occupation, really :) |
| 23:55.08 | foxlit | But then again, depends on what you wanted |
| 23:55.30 | Cide | Dreagar: honestly, you'd be better off reading pil from start to finish (or at least until you hit stuff like metatables, which are likely too advanced to care about for you) |
| 23:55.48 | Cide | and feel free to ask questions about specific things in PIL you don't understand |
| 23:55.54 | KarlKFI | blah, I haven't even read pil cover to cover, but i bet you knew that |
| 23:55.56 | cHao | there's no problem with asking questions...as long as you're not asking questions on the language itself, which you already should have some grasp of |
| 23:56.21 | cHao | (the channel's not called #lua... :P ) |
| 23:56.29 | Cide | such as, "why doesn't this [small example] work?", or "what does this [functioncall] do, exactly?" -- NOT: "help me do this", or "how can I do that?" |
| 23:56.47 | Cairenn | I think the point has been made guys, don't have to beat it into a bloody pulp |
| 23:58.26 | KarlKFI | oh, plus it's fun to compare the 13-18 range of 5 years has almost as much addon coders as the 26-45 group with a 19 year range |
| 23:59.13 | KarlKFI | but yeah, those options make for a bad graph |
| 23:59.18 | KarlKFI | need standard ranges |
| 23:59.22 | cHao | probably correlates a bit to the age stats on wow players....but that's just a guess |
| 23:59.34 | KarlKFI | " I would guess that the general age of the WoW user base would be shifted downward from this bell curve." |
