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| 00:07.37 | testleK | Does anyone know what I have to do to get ride of the zone name square above my minimap lol? |
| 00:07.53 | testleK | *get rid |
| 00:12.43 | art3mis | install a map mod like ricos minimap and select remove zone name ;P |
| 00:13.03 | Wobwork | http://www.chainfactor.com/index.php |
| 00:13.07 | Wobwork | That's scarily addictive |
| 00:14.40 | testleK | yeah I did install rico and it removed the name but left the cell with the x |
| 00:14.41 | testleK | lol |
| 00:14.48 | testleK | thats the problem im having :P |
| 00:17.44 | Thunder_Child | try simpleminimap, i think it works better |
| 00:18.21 | testleK | alright ill test thataone |
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| 00:24.05 | art3mis | http://blogs.guardian.co.uk/film/2007/12/for_editors_the_view_why_fox_w.html <-- for anyone thats seen idiocracy |
| 00:24.13 | art3mis | Brando the thirst mutilator |
| 00:24.18 | art3mis | brawndo |
| 00:24.22 | art3mis | it's got elecrotlyes |
| 00:24.34 | art3mis | electrolytes, cuz thats what plants crave |
| 00:26.20 | Kaso | I saw on facebook that they were going to make it in real life |
| 00:26.23 | Kaso | pretty awesome |
| 00:30.46 | Corrodias | awesome |
| 00:30.57 | Corrodias | fox is more depraved than i previously imagined |
| 00:33.17 | Thunder_Child | they cant be that depraved, they made futurama |
| 00:33.54 | Kaso | they did cancel futurama though.. |
| 00:34.02 | Thunder_Child | and bring it back |
| 00:34.14 | Thunder_Child | limited allbeit |
| 00:34.23 | Kaso | still, gotta loose some points for losing faith |
| 00:35.09 | Corrodias | when you say "made"... |
| 00:35.35 | Corrodias | from what i can tell, Fox and the sci-fi channel are mainly in the business of dropping good shows to replace them with cruddy ones |
| 00:35.48 | Corrodias | i'm not sure how this translates into profits |
| 00:36.23 | Kaso | Good shows are usually expensive to make |
| 00:36.49 | Kaso | they want to drop as many as they can and replace them with cheap-ass realtity tv |
| 00:37.07 | Corrodias | and apparently, in the latter case, wrestling |
| 00:37.28 | testleK | Thunder_Child, thanks simple worked just fine |
| 00:37.39 | Thunder_Child | testleK, welcome |
| 00:41.55 | Wobwork | bleeter: http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=3271071466&sid=1 |
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| 01:26.26 | Rayne | http://i15.tinypic.com/6ycnfgz.gif yup |
| 01:33.53 | Thunder_Child | damit, why will yum not work!! |
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| 01:45.32 | bleeter | Wobwork: you tried it? |
| 01:45.59 | bleeter | general question: can the coresDetected setting in WTF/Config.wtf be changed from 2 to 1 to force single core operation? |
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| 01:56.26 | bleeter | Wobwork: my only concern is that it does modify data traffic to Blizz, although I'd say not the important data... but still, wouldn't wanna get banned for it :/ |
| 01:56.48 | bleeter | Wobwork: I mean to say, Blizz could be asshats and claim modification |
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| 02:01.35 | leethal | is there any other casting bar mods than Quartz that shows ya the latency inside the casting bar? |
| 02:02.32 | dylanm | Azcastbar probably. |
| 02:02.35 | leethal | not that Quartz is a bad choice, just randomly looking for alternatives |
| 02:02.40 | leethal | thanks, I'll check that out |
| 02:02.49 | dylanm | http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info7458-AzCastBar.html |
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| 02:25.51 | bleeter | Cairenn: ping |
| 02:26.03 | Cairenn | bleeter: pong |
| 02:28.39 | Mike-N-Go | Is there any reason for a hunter to collect fire riest gear? |
| 02:29.04 | Mike-N-Go | I am a hunter in a raiding guild, for some reason, I have several pices of fire rist gear.. |
| 02:33.53 | Wobwork | MC? |
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| 02:55.37 | kergoth | wonder why blizzard didnt make #show work when using /click.. you'd think itd show the icon of the button you're clicking |
| 03:02.46 | Iriel | That would require a lot of work |
| 03:02.57 | Iriel | and there's no guarantee that the target of the /click is an action button |
| 03:02.59 | Iriel | you can click *ANY* buttton object |
| 03:03.04 | Iriel | (well, any with a name) |
| 03:03.21 | kergoth | ah |
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| 04:01.21 | bleeter | wth? hunter snakes do dmg to unflagged players?! |
| 04:13.42 | Mr_Rabies2 | well, they're not flagged themselves afaik |
| 04:13.57 | Mr_Rabies2 | they're just considered hostile to whoever triggers it i guess? |
| 04:14.12 | Mr_Rabies2 | i dunno how you triggered the trap if you weren't flagged though |
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| 04:16.55 | bleeter | horde flagged, walks up to me who's unflagged, puts snake trap under me, i take dmg |
| 04:17.09 | bleeter | horde flagged, walks up to FP master, puts trap under him, he dies, birds don't aggro |
| 04:27.33 | Iriel | Hm, sounds like the sap problem (rogues could sap without getting flagged -- that got fixed) |
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| 04:29.57 | Xuerian | bleeter: IIRC, they've said SSH tunneling is allowed but not supported |
| 04:30.18 | Iriel | I've had to use SSH tunnelling to connect from work , so that's good to hear |
| 04:30.56 | Xuerian | Well, I thought I read a blue post to that accord when I glanced over one of the topics. Would probably be best to check bluetracker |
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| 04:44.11 | ScytheBlade1 | Interesting thread: http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=3271071466&sid=1&pageNo=1 |
| 04:44.30 | ScytheBlade1 | Hightly technical thread on how to reduce pings... largely just with linux |
| 04:44.51 | bleeter | ScytheBlade1: yeah, had a bit of a chat about that earlier |
| 04:45.22 | ScytheBlade1 | I just noticed the thread... |
| 04:45.30 | bleeter | still unsure whether it's modifying the data to an extent that blizz might ban you tho |
| 04:45.47 | bleeter | can't see why, imo prolly just better if they have a config option for TCP_NODELAY ;) |
| 04:45.55 | ScytheBlade1 | No kidding |
| 04:46.40 | bleeter | I'm actually suprised they don't already use it =) |
| 04:47.18 | bleeter | tho maybe the network code's prolly really old, and not been looked at fer ages |
| 04:47.53 | ScytheBlade1 | It's not like this is overly new networking though ;) |
| 04:49.53 | Thunder_Child | ah aha! i have problems. |
| 04:50.33 | bleeter | ScytheBlade1: I'll give them benefit of the doubt, and say the code's not been looked at since optimised for POTS ;) |
| 04:50.51 | bleeter | (if, in fact, it was actually optimised for POTS) |
| 04:51.18 | Iriel | ScytheBlade1: I think it can |
| 04:51.34 | ScytheBlade1 | I dunno... if you read the "technical post" that is linked to /., you'll notice that the NODELAY stuff was implimented ~1980s ;) |
| 04:51.36 | Xinhuan | Iriel, can you confirm that friendsframe.lua:990 has a typo? |
| 04:51.45 | ScytheBlade1 | Iriel: yeah, but which flags is what I'm wondering ;) |
| 04:52.01 | Iriel | though obviously NODELAY has nothingt o do with that |
| 04:52.48 | ScytheBlade1 | Isn't that exactly what the thread in question is doing though? Throwing on the NODELAY flag? |
| 04:52.55 | Xinhuan | the typo is causing the guild control frame to "reset" on GUILD_ROSTER_UPDATE |
| 04:53.07 | Iriel | But IIRC that's a flag on the socket, not the data |
| 04:53.37 | Iriel | And if you turn that on for an app that isn't expecting it you can significantly hurt thoughput |
| 04:53.46 | ScytheBlade1 | That's what I'm wondering now, if I can just apply a broad rule to my router and call it good |
| 04:53.51 | ScytheBlade1 | Yup |
| 04:54.05 | bleeter | if you can set it as a rule for the WoW data port |
| 04:54.33 | bleeter | which is what that post is doing, though inevitably a pain if you're on multiple battlegroups, etc. |
| 04:54.43 | Iriel | Xinhuan: Nothing obvious -- why do you THINK it has a typo? |
| 04:54.55 | Xinhuan | UIDropDownMenu_SetSelectedID(GuildControlPopupFrameDropDown, 1); |
| 04:55.00 | Xinhuan | the "1" should be "i" |
| 04:55.16 | Iriel | Ah yes, you are correct |
| 04:55.19 | Xinhuan | because it resets the dropdown value to the guildmaster errorneously |
| 04:55.22 | Iriel | I shall send that to slouken if you'd like? |
| 04:55.29 | Xinhuan | yes please do |
| 04:56.03 | Xinhuan | i've had a [bug] post somewhere on this with no replies |
| 04:56.08 | ScytheBlade1 | Meh, I play with a 95ms ping anyways |
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| 04:56.28 | Xinhuan | need a link to it to alert slouken? |
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| 04:56.48 | Iriel | Nah, I can explain this one in an email, if you HAVE a link though, send it my way |
| 04:57.18 | Xinhuan | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=3168515765&postId=32341733191&sid=1#0 |
| 04:57.25 | bleeter | ScytheBlade1: anyways, I asked someone to ask someone to ask slouken etc on both a ruling for modifying packets, and get the game code adjusted. no promises on reply, tho. guess just wait and see when the Blizz Blues wake up tomorrow ;) |
| 04:57.32 | Xinhuan | thats the link |
| 04:57.43 | bleeter | ScytheBlade1: it'd be interesting to see if Tigerclaw has a better 'solution' for OSX ;) |
| 04:58.07 | ScytheBlade1 | bleeter: indeed |
| 04:59.10 | Iriel | Xinhuan: Thanks, Sent it off |
| 04:59.16 | Xinhuan | ty :) |
| 04:59.25 | bleeter | Xuerian: nice catch :) |
| 04:59.30 | bleeter | ~fail bleeter |
| 04:59.31 | purl | bleeter: Fail. |
| 04:59.33 | bleeter | Xinhuan: nice catch |
| 04:59.44 | ScytheBlade1 | Yeah, actually thinking about all of this now, it's simply a socket option and nothing that you can modify mid-stream... so the proxy is pretty much enforced to set the flag in question |
| 04:59.51 | Xinhuan | i had to add a temporary hack to libroster to hook and unregister the GUILD_ROSTER_UPDATE event from guildcontrolpopup in the meantime |
| 04:59.58 | Xuerian | bleeter: Heh, yep. |
| 05:02.58 | Xuerian | o_0 |
| 05:03.03 | Xuerian | XD |
| 05:03.07 | Xinhuan | you need a name change! |
| 05:03.17 | Xuerian | I've had this name for years o_0 |
| 05:03.27 | Xinhuan | this is my real name, its unchangable ;p |
| 05:04.26 | Xuerian | Ok, well... You've got me there |
| 05:04.39 | Xuerian | but technically, it's changeable. |
| 05:04.47 | bleeter | lolz |
| 05:04.56 | Xuerian | Almost changed mine to Xuerian, too :p |
| 05:04.57 | Xinhuan | ok but not without exorbitant name changing government procedures ;p |
| 05:04.58 | Iriel | Well, if you're using an SSH tunnel, you DO have to worry about what it's doing in terms of buffering, compression, etc. |
| 05:05.15 | Xinhuan | btw, i'll like to say i am using a SSH tunnel atm |
| 05:05.23 | Xinhuan | 500-600ms ---> 230 ms |
| 05:05.44 | Xinhuan | and the flunctuation from 230 is barely +- 10ms |
| 05:05.50 | Xuerian | I wish a SSH tunnel would get rid of Sprintlink's utter fail in my area |
| 05:06.21 | bleeter | I'm sure all of Telstra Australia could be replaced by a single SSH Tunnel, they're that much fail |
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| 05:06.49 | Xinhuan | several guilds on my server have paid for dedicated guild-only bandwidth to allow their members to SSH tunnel thru that |
| 05:07.08 | Xinhuan | if you split the vandwidth costs up, its barely $1 per month, compared to lowerping's $7 |
| 05:07.36 | Xuerian | nice |
| 05:07.49 | Xinhuan | and each guild would have its own ssh server ip to tunnel thru |
| 05:07.53 | ScytheBlade1 | And it's not like WoW is that bandwidth intensive |
| 05:07.59 | Xinhuan | it isn't |
| 05:08.14 | Xinhuan | in a 25-man raid setting, the avg is 30 mb per hour per person |
| 05:08.55 | ScytheBlade1 | ~8.5kB/sec |
| 05:09.08 | Xinhuan | yes |
| 05:09.31 | bleeter | I just gotta work out a way to switch realms/battlegroups easily :/ |
| 05:09.37 | Xinhuan | the numbers are accurate in both what proxifier, the ssh and what ingame-bandwidth figures from te wow API gives |
| 05:10.23 | ScytheBlade1 | That's really a lot less than what I expected (8.5kB/sec in a 25-man) |
| 05:10.39 | ScytheBlade1 | But it also explains why the NODELAY option would be invaluable |
| 05:10.44 | Xinhuan | performacefu shows you some bandwidth figures |
| 05:10.50 | Xinhuan | those are acurrate |
| 05:12.12 | Xuerian | (Far Sight is so nifty.) |
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| 05:35.30 | Thunder_Child | http://gizmodo.com/gadgets/nsfw/fark-attempts-to-trademark-nsfw-gizmodo-is-like-wtf-tfsu-331750.php |
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| 05:39.56 | art3mis | Oh, boy, here we go again. Another occasion for Sirius/XM partisans to throw down in our forum. If only this evergreen argument could be conducted under Thunderdome rules! But no, it’s always a dozens-enter, no-one-convinces-anyone-else, everyone-leaves situation. |
| 05:40.08 | art3mis | heh |
| 05:41.33 | Thunder_Child | i havent been keeping up, is a patch coming out tue? |
| 05:41.42 | art3mis | prolly not |
| 05:41.48 | Thunder_Child | ok |
| 05:41.49 | art3mis | but winterveil should be starting |
| 05:43.04 | Thunder_Child | i dont do the festival things |
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| 06:12.56 | batrick | --> test |
| 06:12.56 | batbot | batrick: > nil |
| 06:13.19 | Mike-N-Go | --> print (nil or _) |
| 06:13.19 | batbot | Mike-N-Go: nil |
| 06:15.35 | MentalPower | nil or nil is nil |
| 06:15.51 | MentalPower | (nil or nil) == nil |
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| 06:50.06 | Cairenn | night guys |
| 06:52.24 | art3mis | ni ni dollface |
| 06:53.31 | art3mis | i wonder if metalocolypse started as an idea from Skab in home movies |
| 06:54.03 | art3mis | Thunder_Child: you should do the winterveil stuff, being a snowman is fun! |
| 06:54.14 | Thunder_Child | art3mis, not really worth it |
| 06:54.41 | art3mis | its totally worth it |
| 06:54.47 | art3mis | you get to kill the greench! |
| 06:54.59 | Thunder_Child | at 39? |
| 06:55.15 | art3mis | oh |
| 06:55.19 | art3mis | i thought you had a 70 |
| 06:55.24 | Thunder_Child | i do |
| 06:55.36 | art3mis | but yeah at 39 its possible i think |
| 06:55.41 | art3mis | just group with a 70 or 2 |
| 06:55.51 | Thunder_Child | again, not worth it |
| 06:56.56 | art3mis | more fun than questing and mindlessly farming |
| 06:58.21 | Thunder_Child | meh, happens every year, same grind different day |
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| 07:08.16 | bleeter | so it turns out moroes hates my guild. after trying on and off for a week or two, different group makeups and approaches, they apparently get him to ~10-15%... |
| 07:08.25 | bleeter | ... and the server disconnects everyone in the raid |
| 07:08.49 | greppy | bleeter: that isn't Moroes, that is a deity somewhere, outside of WoW |
| 07:09.31 | bleeter | greppy: $10 says the diety's deity is moroes ;) :P |
| 07:09.58 | greppy | In World-as-Myth, that is possible :) |
| 07:10.33 | bleeter | Iriel/Mr_Rabies2: GM's told me the PvP snake trap exploit is known |
| 07:10.34 | art3mis | ither that or you've all got a phase change bug in yer raid addon ;P |
| 07:10.50 | art3mis | pvp snake trap? |
| 07:10.56 | art3mis | they broke intervene too |
| 07:10.59 | break19 | bleeter: somewhat similar issue.. 3 AVs in a row, right after I entered the BG, my whole game froze up, couldnt even switch to windowed mode, had to cmd-option-esc to force-quit it, and even that took a while, restarted and re-entered the AV and was good to go until the next one. |
| 07:11.02 | art3mis | it doesnt care about obstructions |
| 07:11.20 | bleeter | art3mis: flagged hunter snake trap will cause dmg to unflagged players |
| 07:11.32 | break19 | bleeter: rofl. nice |
| 07:11.34 | art3mis | neat |
| 07:11.47 | bleeter | causing much ownage @ SS earlier on my realm |
| 07:12.00 | bleeter | spam trapping the FP |
| 07:12.03 | art3mis | i guess thats to make up for hunters sucking |
| 07:12.10 | break19 | good info to know. *runs off to harrass camp taurajo* |
| 07:12.12 | art3mis | gives them another way to avoid death ;p |
| 07:12.21 | bleeter | additionally, it *appeared* as though the trap under the flight master didn't trigger the adds for his defense |
| 07:12.34 | bleeter | though couldn't quite tell, was pretty busy in the UI ;) |
| 07:16.54 | bleeter | greppy: you may find this interesting, I seem to recall you mentioning your ping was ~250ms http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=3271071466&sid=1 |
| 07:25.07 | Mike-N-Go | A question to the hunters out there: frenzy, when can do you know a mob has it? other then spamming your bar, or seeing things w/growth spurts. |
| 07:25.18 | greppy | bleeter: ummm nope, not me :) most of the time I hang in the 115 or so range. |
| 07:26.05 | art3mis | ALL GLORY TO THE HYPNO TOAD! |
| 07:26.12 | Xinhuan | if you :SetPoint("topleft", nil, "topleft", 0, 0), does the nil reference point default to UIParent in behavior? |
| 07:26.52 | bleeter | Mike-N-Go: unsure, I think any decent raid/boss mod will tell you, though |
| 07:27.29 | Mike-N-Go | Could just put it at the end of my steady shot macro.. but how do I keep the 'can not cast' sound from going! |
| 07:27.39 | Mike-N-Go | bleeter: Trash in SSC, does not tell one. |
| 07:28.32 | art3mis | turn off those annoying sounds? |
| 07:29.02 | Mike-N-Go | Yah, art3mis. |
| 07:30.04 | art3mis | sorry the question mark shouldt have been there ;) |
| 07:30.17 | Mike-N-Go | art3mis: How |
| 07:30.31 | bleeter | disconnect speakers? /shrug |
| 07:30.55 | art3mis | error speech in the sound meu i think |
| 07:31.06 | bleeter | sounds about right |
| 07:31.15 | art3mis | i dot play with any sound on so... |
| 07:31.54 | Mike-N-Go | I play with iTunes on |
| 07:33.03 | art3mis | bah |
| 07:33.13 | art3mis | its the saddest futurama |
| 07:34.36 | ckknight | ~hypnotoad |
| 07:34.37 | purl | All glory to the hypnotoad! CLAP. CLAP. |
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| 08:11.45 | Mike-N-Go | "If it looks like a female, walks like a female, talks like a female, and strips down at a mailbox like a female, it's probably a 13 year old boy. But not always." --BigRedKitty ( via http://bigredkitty.blogspot.com/2007/12/we-should-know-when-to-stop.html ) |
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| 08:19.23 | Wobin | hm |
| 08:19.35 | Wobin | how can I find the ip of my wow server? |
| 08:21.06 | bleeter | there's a wowwiki page... |
| 08:21.20 | bleeter | (1) you can tcpdump port 3724 fer a start ... ;) |
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| 08:21.57 | bleeter | Wobin: http://www.wowwiki.com/US_Realm_List_By_Datacenter |
| 08:22.06 | Wobin | ta |
| 08:22.23 | bleeter | tcpdump's prolly far more reliable tho, not sure if that page is out of date etc. |
| 08:25.08 | Mike-N-Go | Wobin: Sniff yer packets? |
| 08:25.26 | Wobin | My Box has no nose! |
| 08:26.11 | Iriel | Hm, that datacenter list is out of date |
| 08:26.36 | bleeter | Iriel: not suprised, there's some comment on the Talk page indicating as much |
| 08:27.10 | Iriel | I know there are wow servers in one of the data centers we have stuff in (but I wont say where, for obvious reasons) but it's not a location on that list. |
| 08:27.38 | bleeter | Iriel: I bet I know where! |
| 08:27.43 | bleeter | Iriel: THE USA! :P |
| 08:28.00 | Wobin | well |
| 08:28.06 | Wobin | he could mean Oceania |
| 08:28.11 | Wobin | which is why he's not saying =) |
| 08:28.26 | Iriel | bleeter: heh |
| 08:28.38 | bleeter | Wobin: if Iriel was indicating there's a DC in Oceania... I'd be putting money on Iriel on some heavy non-prescription drugs |
| 08:29.04 | bleeter | man, I wonder if the servers the game's run on has NOWAIT |
| 08:29.22 | bleeter | 'coz as various sources say, it's not a configurable in the Linux kernel |
| 08:32.31 | bleeter | ttfn |
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| 09:16.36 | ccox | Dude - Moroes is the second easiest boss in Kara.... |
| 09:17.04 | ccox | of course, he needs to be double tanked, but he's a cakewalk |
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| 09:26.58 | Corrodias | i like fights that take coordination but not necessarily great gear |
| 09:27.44 | Pandya | wut |
| 09:46.34 | art3mis | yay got my glad staff |
| 09:48.57 | ccox | Coorodias - well, you got that all over kara |
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| 10:52.49 | AnduinLothar | does RAID_ROSTER_UPDATE fire when a member summons a pet? |
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| 11:10.22 | Maldivia | ohh... a Russian localized version of WoW was announced |
| 11:16.38 | amro | bout time |
| 11:17.08 | Tem|Sleep | like a week ago |
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| 11:18.59 | amro | oh the irony, I'm writing an article about time but I don't have enough time to finish it |
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| 11:32.47 | |Pixel| | 12:17 <+Tem|Sleep> like a week ago |
| 11:32.50 | |Pixel| | interesting :) |
| 11:33.00 | |Pixel| | this has been officially announced a few hours ago only :P |
| 11:33.09 | Tem|Sleep | I read it online somewhere last week |
| 11:33.58 | Adys | http://www.mmo-champion.com/index.php?topic=2729.0 |
| 11:34.41 | Tem|Sleep | ah, that's it |
| 11:34.44 | Tem|Sleep | so 8 days ago |
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| 12:12.17 | cladhaire | can you guys throw out words for me that may need to be defined to someone just starting with addons? |
| 12:17.01 | Maldivia | stuff like: API, table, frame, secure template, hook ? |
| 12:17.26 | Maldivia | or are you talking using? |
| 12:20.12 | JoshBorke | alpha, scale, anchor |
| 12:20.37 | JoshBorke | taint |
| 12:20.43 | JoshBorke | scope |
| 12:21.55 | JoshBorke | button, uiobject, WTY CAN'T I SEE MY FRAME?! |
| 12:22.46 | cladhaire | Maldivia: table and frame are basic Lua things, already introduced |
| 12:22.50 | cladhaire | more the things josh suggedsted |
| 12:23.03 | JoshBorke | WTF rather |
| 12:23.17 | Maldivia | cladhaire: since when is Frame a basic lua thing :) |
| 12:23.29 | cladhaire | frame isn't |
| 12:23.29 | cladhaire | table it. |
| 12:23.31 | cladhaire | table |
| 12:23.32 | cladhaire | is |
| 12:23.33 | cladhaire | my mistake,. |
| 12:23.35 | Maldivia | :) |
| 12:23.44 | Maldivia | but wasn't sure if you meant for creating addons or for using addons |
| 12:23.52 | cladhaire | creating |
| 12:26.01 | Maldivia | event-handling, OnUpdate |
| 12:29.19 | Maldivia | .toc (## Version, load-order of files) |
| 12:29.24 | cladhaire | those are topics |
| 12:29.29 | Maldivia | ok :) |
| 12:29.31 | cladhaire | that are alreayd covered in the book |
| 12:29.41 | cladhaire | i'm loking for terms, that would be appropriate in a glossary |
| 12:30.41 | Maldivia | ahh, ok - helps to know what the words are for, to come up with the right ones :) |
| 12:30.56 | cladhaire | its for a glossary |
| 12:30.58 | cladhaire | :P |
| 12:30.59 | cladhaire | sorry |
| 12:32.46 | Industrial | eh how do I match something 8 times in a pattern again? %x{8} ? |
| 12:35.23 | Industrial | lua> t='|cff000000Foo|r' t=t:gsub('|c%x{8}(.+)|r','%1') print(t) |
| 12:35.23 | lua_bot | Industrial: |cff000000Foo|r |
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| 12:47.23 | Maldivia | lua> t='|cff000000Foo|r' t=t:gsub('|c' .. ('%x'):rep(8) .. '(.+)|r','%1') print(t) |
| 12:47.23 | lua_bot | Maldivia: Foo |
| 12:48.52 | Industrial | yeah ugly :( |
| 12:48.57 | Maldivia | yep |
| 12:49.10 | Industrial | I also want my or! (|) :P |
| 12:49.24 | Maldivia | go write a full regex implementation then |
| 12:49.32 | Industrial | hehe |
| 13:14.04 | Industrial | uhm, can I get an error log with stack trace etc like the taint log? |
| 13:14.51 | Industrial | my wow is hanging on load :\ |
| 13:19.10 | Industrial | weird |
| 13:19.18 | Industrial | it was an AddMessage hook that wasn't returning |
| 13:19.30 | Industrial | why would that hang wow.. instead of just not showing any text .. |
| 13:23.08 | Maldivia | any method that hangs, hangs the entire UI, thus the entire client |
| 13:25.12 | Industrial | yes but how would it hang if all I did was comment out the return - wouldnt it still return? |
| 13:26.39 | Industrial | oh well :) |
| 13:27.28 | Maldivia | hmm, yeah - that's weird |
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| 13:39.29 | sioraiocht | Industrial: is it dusk yet in the netherlands? |
| 13:40.32 | Maldivia | it's not in Denmark, so it shouldn't be in the Netherlands |
| 13:42.35 | Industrial | nope, in about 2-3 hours |
| 13:43.37 | Tem|Sleep | 2-3 hours? |
| 13:43.45 | Tem|Sleep | does the sun go down at like 4 pm? |
| 13:44.16 | Tem|Sleep | oh, sorry. forgot to give the time in europese |
| 13:44.19 | Maldivia | where I am right now, the sun sets at 3.45pm |
| 13:44.21 | Tem|Sleep | 1600 |
| 13:44.32 | Tem|Sleep | wow |
| 13:44.35 | Tem|Sleep | gogo far north |
| 13:44.58 | Industrial | yup |
| 13:45.09 | Industrial | around 4-5 it sets atm |
| 13:45.12 | Maldivia | sunrise at 8.37am, and sunset at 3.45pm -- short day, yeah :) |
| 13:45.33 | Tem|Sleep | wow |
| 13:45.41 | Tem|Sleep | it's dark at 6ish here |
| 13:45.47 | Tem|Sleep | and that freaks me out |
| 13:45.59 | Industrial | in my holiday I get up at dark and go to bed at dark :D |
| 13:46.12 | Industrial | (and I like it :X) |
| 13:49.27 | Maldivia | Today in Amsterdam, sunrise at 8.43 am, sunset 4:29pm |
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| 13:58.42 | Fin | yo |
| 13:59.47 | sioraiocht | yeah |
| 13:59.47 | sioraiocht | sunsent here is depressing |
| 13:59.47 | sioraiocht | i ralised the sun finally came out at about 1 |
| 13:59.47 | sioraiocht | and the sun was already halfway down the sky |
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| 14:06.02 | alestane | art3mis: ping |
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| 15:05.27 | art3mis | morning |
| 15:05.55 | wereHamster | morning |
| 15:07.29 | malreth | morning |
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| 15:31.35 | Taeri | morning 0.o |
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| 15:46.12 | Thunder_Child | morning |
| 15:46.25 | Thunder_Child | way way to early in the, |
| 15:46.50 | Taeri | defenetly |
| 15:47.25 | Taeri | question, will a lua error occur, when it can't find the xml pieces it's supposed to be putting information in? :P |
| 15:48.08 | Thunder_Child | vs ignore it? |
| 15:48.44 | Taeri | I'm getting a error when I remove a xml file. |
| 15:49.35 | Taeri | Actually, lemme go test stuff... |
| 15:49.36 | Thunder_Child | then dont remove it? |
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| 15:50.32 | wereHamster | lol |
| 15:51.02 | malreth | if you remove an xml file then the frames and objects it would create will not exist... the global variables that they would normally be assigned to will be undefined and you'll get errors most likely |
| 15:51.19 | Taeri | malreth, thankyou. ^^ |
| 15:51.35 | wereHamster | why did you try to remove the file? |
| 15:51.36 | malreth | also, removing xml files might give you the clap |
| 15:52.48 | Taeri | I'm messing around with tabs on my addon. And I don't need all the information in that xml file atm. Therefore, I tried to replace it with something else, but since the luastill tries to use em, I guess that's a bad idea. |
| 15:52.49 | Thunder_Child | malreth, stop trying to blame xml, you had the clap long before then |
| 15:53.21 | malreth | :( |
| 15:54.52 | Taeri | something tells me I should try shortening some of these names 0.o - GuildPlusRosterFrameRosterScrollbar; |
| 15:55.57 | malreth | the best part about lua are the self-documenting variable names |
| 15:55.59 | Thunder_Child | kije the fact that you dont needthe second roster? |
| 15:56.02 | Thunder_Child | like* |
| 15:56.19 | Taeri | I didn't name these things. My partner in crime did. |
| 15:56.25 | malreth | thisVariableKeepsTrackOfTheNumberOfTimesTheButtonHasBeenClicked |
| 15:56.58 | Taeri | And yes, Don't need the second roster. |
| 15:57.00 | malreth | tell him to quit writing scripts and to cook you some dinnar! |
| 15:57.18 | Taeri | I think he's far far away. |
| 15:57.47 | malreth | "get back in teh kitchan and... make me sum pie!" |
| 15:57.58 | Taeri | haha |
| 15:58.18 | Taeri | I'll go around renaming these things, and hopefully, I won't break it completely. |
| 15:59.27 | Taeri | GuildPlusRosterFrameRosterColumn1 - heard about - GPlusRosterColoumn1 - anyone? |
| 16:00.15 | malreth | nothing bad could possibly happen by doing that. go for it. |
| 16:00.27 | malreth | also, try smoking tobacco... it makes you cool |
| 16:00.35 | malreth | ~malreth |
| 16:00.36 | purl | never take malreth seriously |
| 16:00.44 | malreth | purl! bad bot! |
| 16:01.58 | Taeri | :D |
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| 16:04.16 | malreth | greetings, cogwheel |
| 16:04.37 | cog|work | morning |
| 16:04.52 | Thunder_Child | well they would go well with the wine |
| 16:04.57 | malreth | ready for another day of work? |
| 16:05.15 | cog|work | s/the/them/ |
| 16:05.42 | malreth | at least keep the smoking jacket as you don't seem to be wearing any pants... or underwear |
| 16:06.32 | Thunder_Child | malreth, and how would you know? |
| 16:06.47 | cog|work | I got a total of 7 hrs of sleep since fri... |
| 16:07.04 | Thunder_Child | not a good thing |
| 16:07.37 | malreth | my dog woke me at 2am... "walkies!!! walkies!!!" |
| 16:07.51 | cog|work | Book's due in ~6 hrs or so and we're not finished so yeah... |
| 16:07.55 | malreth | i'm operating solely on caffeine right now |
| 16:08.44 | Taeri | I'm operating out of pain. Even if I tried to sleep more, my hips, back, and tummy probably wouldn't let me. |
| 16:11.51 | malreth | baah... copout... asok reincarnated into his half man half candy bar clone |
| 16:11.58 | malreth | that's not killing off a character |
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| 16:19.07 | Valaron|Work | Happy Monday. |
| 16:19.39 | Valaron|Work | Mmmm |
| 16:20.08 | JoshBorke | HAPPY MONDAY! |
| 16:20.51 | JoshBorke | i found out i'm officially graduating on saturday, so i'm happy |
| 16:20.57 | malreth | congrats |
| 16:21.06 | Valaron|Work | Grats. |
| 16:21.08 | JoshBorke | so hell yes |
| 16:21.17 | malreth | my little sister just walked yesterday |
| 16:21.31 | JoshBorke | BS in Computer Engineering from GaTech :-D |
| 16:21.42 | malreth | she got a BS in Computer Science from UT Austin |
| 16:21.53 | malreth | one of three women to get that degree this year |
| 16:21.58 | art3mis | is that the same sister i see "walking" each night on that corner? |
| 16:22.05 | malreth | ~lart Arcaia |
| 16:22.05 | purl | executes killall -KILL Arcaia |
| 16:22.13 | malreth | ~lart art3mis |
| 16:22.13 | purl | breaks out the Hoover and sucks up art3mis |
| 16:22.31 | malreth | ~whaleslap art3mis |
| 16:22.32 | purl | ACTION beats art3mis upside and over the head with a freakishly huge killer whale named Hugh |
| 16:22.32 | Thunder_Child | damit art3mis, you beat me to it |
| 16:22.41 | Thunder_Child | i was thinking the same thing... |
| 16:22.47 | art3mis | kinky |
| 16:23.06 | art3mis | is she hot mal? |
| 16:23.14 | Thunder_Child | indeed art3mis, i wonder if shw will do 2 at once |
| 16:23.16 | Thunder_Child | she* |
| 16:23.19 | malreth | hmm... i think i have a pic somewhere |
| 16:23.23 | malreth | she has a boyfriend |
| 16:23.30 | Thunder_Child | ok, 3... |
| 16:23.31 | malreth | and she plans to get married to him |
| 16:23.31 | art3mis | and? |
| 16:23.42 | malreth | and she hates you, art3mis |
| 16:23.46 | malreth | she told me so |
| 16:23.52 | Taeri | errors ahoy! *irons out xml errors* |
| 16:23.53 | Thunder_Child | somehow i can belive that |
| 16:24.00 | art3mis | i don't doubt that, but it has very little bearing on the hot part ;P |
| 16:24.02 | malreth | said you smell of urine and burnt cabbage |
| 16:24.21 | Thunder_Child | what does burnt cabbage smell of? |
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| 16:24.43 | Thunder_Child | heh, distracting cog |
| 16:25.18 | art3mis | Thunder_Child: you kow that uncle that drinks alot and you don't really wanna shake his hand or hug him but he still tries to hug you at family meetings? |
| 16:25.25 | Thunder_Child | no |
| 16:25.27 | art3mis | that smell is what burnt cabbage is |
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| 16:25.39 | art3mis | oh sorry not uncle, i believe you know him as "dad" |
| 16:25.56 | art3mis | brb |
| 16:26.21 | malreth | http://flickr.com/photos/fizzboy/502966239/ |
| 16:26.41 | malreth | i haven't yet processed the graduation photos... they're not up yet |
| 16:27.02 | malreth | not the most flattering pic, i suppose |
| 16:27.20 | malreth | she always has that 'i'm annoyed with you' look |
| 16:28.07 | zenzelezz | maybe there's a reason ;-o |
| 16:28.43 | Thunder_Child | your bad influence on her arent you malreth |
| 16:29.01 | malreth | she enjoys drinking whiskey and playing poker for money |
| 16:29.27 | malreth | she paid her rent for the summer by suckering cash from drunk frat boys on partypoker.com |
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| 16:29.58 | malreth | and she's bought a DLP hdtv |
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| 16:30.46 | Thunder_Child | i meant her degree....but ok |
| 16:31.37 | malreth | what about her degree? |
| 16:31.58 | JoshBorke | i thought malreth was a crook by profession? |
| 16:32.22 | malreth | hey! how was i supposed to know that the city keeps tabs on homeless people!? |
| 16:32.58 | malreth | damn communist hippies crying about 'human rights' and ethics |
| 16:33.36 | malreth | no... originally my profession was donating plasma for high definition television sets |
| 16:33.45 | malreth | but one man can only do so much |
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| 16:55.17 | Thunder_Child | "(08:31:38) (malreth) what about her degree?" i assume you were an influence |
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| 16:58.39 | art3mis | eeeeeeee |
| 17:01.03 | art3mis | http://www.gadgets-reviews.com/index.php?page=post&id=635 |
| 17:03.28 | art3mis | "To lessen the harsh impact of the flash, all you have to do (besides start thinking/using common sense) is put layers of regular old scotch tape over the flash until it is at the level of brightness you want it to be. Just plain old tape, my camera used about 6 pieces before I found the perfect level for most photos, you could also just change the exposure level using the camera's menu, but that would require more slightly more intellect |
| 17:03.57 | Thunder_Child | damit malreth, i didnt realise you had quit |
| 17:04.49 | malreth | that's because you are getting better at tuning my drivel out |
| 17:05.00 | Thunder_Child | no, because i was taking a shower |
| 17:05.08 | art3mis | he was asking if you've tapped that fine fine ass ;) |
| 17:05.11 | Thunder_Child | (08:55:18) (Thunder_Child) "(08:31:38) (malreth) what about her degree?" i assume you were an influence |
| 17:05.14 | Thunder_Child | is what i said |
| 17:05.17 | art3mis | or that |
| 17:05.25 | Thunder_Child | ~kill art3mis |
| 17:05.26 | purl | ACTION shoots a super-inverse pseudoneutrino gun at art3mis |
| 17:05.34 | art3mis | phew |
| 17:05.39 | art3mis | thank god is was pseudo |
| 17:05.43 | art3mis | it |
| 17:05.58 | malreth | i think her boyfriend was more of an influence... he's also a CS major (well, was... he graduated yesterday, too) |
| 17:06.00 | Thunder_Child | uhh..that should really be fires...shoots makes it seem like the actual gun is being fired at you |
| 17:06.03 | art3mis | you'd have more luck with one of those plastic disc guns ;) |
| 17:06.28 | Thunder_Child | malreth, lies!! |
| 17:07.30 | malreth | it annoys my family whenever we have get-togethers as she and i will usually start talking about the pros of functional and/or imperative programming languages |
| 17:08.14 | malreth | when the words, "function pointers" and "rigid typecasting" get said, you can just see the parents' and aunts'/uncles' eyes start to glaze over |
| 17:09.51 | malreth | whenever we get around to "template instantiation" people usually start getting desperate and will say something trollish like "I really appreciate what Bush is doing for this country." |
| 17:10.14 | malreth | discussion derailment apparently runs in the family |
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| 17:12.01 | malreth | my mom gave my sister a card yesterday... the outside was printed "Every now and then someone comes along that makes it easy to reach for the stars..." On the inside, my mom wrote "...you are not one of those people. HA HA HA!" |
| 17:12.13 | malreth | if we're not making fun of each other, we're not loving each other |
| 17:12.16 | malreth | :D |
| 17:12.46 | art3mis | "Thanks for spreading your legs that night while you were drunk, you made this all possible" <-- card yer sister should give your mom ;) |
| 17:13.31 | art3mis | "This degree made possible by Jack Daniels and Dad being a chubby chaser." |
| 17:14.21 | malreth | she drinks Bullet, not JD |
| 17:14.29 | art3mis | im talking about your dad ;) |
| 17:14.46 | art3mis | those are cards for each of them ;) |
| 17:14.57 | malreth | oh... no he was still smoking pot back then |
| 17:15.11 | art3mis | damn hippie |
| 17:15.27 | malreth | damn right! my parents marched for civil rights. |
| 17:15.32 | art3mis | "you can't own land maaan. I can, but that's because i'm not a dirty hippie!" |
| 17:15.37 | malreth | and yet my dad was in vietnam |
| 17:15.56 | art3mis | going to vietnam in the 80s doesn't quite count |
| 17:16.59 | malreth | he was there in the 70's |
| 17:17.03 | art3mis | i think i need to go to tiffany's and get my wedding ring all shined up |
| 17:17.38 | art3mis | the vietnam war was all staged, like the moon l;andings |
| 17:17.44 | art3mis | geez do you NEVER watch tv? |
| 17:18.23 | art3mis | ya know after watchig richard nixon on futurama all the time, i have to say, id totally vote for richard nixons head |
| 17:18.24 | malreth | that explains all those movies about it! |
| 17:18.41 | art3mis | those are documentaries like the highlander.. platoon was total fiction |
| 17:18.45 | art3mis | err arent |
| 17:19.26 | malreth | you mean highlander isn't real? |
| 17:20.54 | art3mis | no |
| 17:21.05 | art3mis | highlander is totally real, it's a documentary |
| 17:21.27 | malreth | i always hoped so deep deep down inside with every part of my body even my pee pee |
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| 17:40.24 | |Jelly| | So I'm thinking about keeping a bottle of whiskey in my trunk so I can pound a couple shots before work. lol |
| 17:40.45 | malreth | why keep it in your car? your desk has drawers, right? |
| 17:40.59 | |Jelly| | I don't have a desk. I'm a waiter. |
| 17:41.19 | malreth | oh... that's right. i forgot. |
| 17:41.28 | malreth | silly me. :p |
| 17:42.25 | |Jelly| | http://www.explosm.net/comics/245/ |
| 17:45.52 | malreth | |Jelly|: will you be my "it's complicated" on facebook? |
| 17:45.52 | malreth | http://xkcd.com/355/ |
| 17:46.13 | |Jelly| | No. |
| 17:48.55 | art3mis | jelly's gotten so bad ass ;P |
| 17:49.03 | |Jelly| | ? |
| 17:49.28 | art3mis | he's like the moody new kid that just moved to the school with the jeans and leather jacket that lights up smokes in chemistry |
| 17:49.43 | art3mis | and he drives a karmangia |
| 17:49.46 | |Jelly| | Except I've been here for...months. :-\ |
| 17:49.56 | art3mis | heh |
| 17:50.13 | art3mis | well we just noticed you after what you did to mr.johnson during archery class! |
| 17:50.35 | malreth | :O |
| 17:51.14 | |Jelly| | Considering you've been begging me to help make your theme swapper for...what? two months? I imagine you noticed me before now. :P |
| 17:57.28 | art3mis | no that was old jelly |
| 17:57.44 | |Jelly| | Old Jelly and New Jelly are the same person. Sorry. |
| 17:57.54 | art3mis | old jelly was a nerdy kid with glasses and a short sleeved button up shirt |
| 17:58.12 | |Jelly| | Umm. What? |
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| 17:58.54 | Thunder_Child | "(09:57:45) (|Jelly|) Old Jelly and New Jelly are the same person. Sorry." no |
| 17:59.45 | art3mis | same physical occupied space maybe |
| 17:59.45 | |Jelly| | yais |
| 17:59.45 | art3mis | not the same person though |
| 17:59.45 | |Jelly| | Except, yeah. :P |
| 17:59.45 | art3mis | new jelly has reinvited his image ;) |
| 17:59.48 | |Jelly| | ... |
| 18:00.00 | Thunder_Child | well the new jelly must be doing something correct...he got a woman |
| 18:00.04 | art3mis | unless it's just sober jelly and drunk jelly ;P |
| 18:00.19 | |Jelly| | Drunk Jelly is a complete asshole, usually. |
| 18:00.43 | zenzelezz | I'm sure we'll see you sober some day |
| 18:00.47 | Thunder_Child | heh, a drunk Thunder_Child talks even more than he does usually |
| 18:00.56 | art3mis | Thunder_Child: yeah so did hugh grant, and yet he still needed to get a hooker ;) |
| 18:01.12 | art3mis | although im not sure why in gods name he would... mmmmmm liz hurley |
| 18:01.13 | |Jelly| | http://www.explosm.net/comics/322/ |
| 18:01.36 | Thunder_Child | art3mis, that might have had something to do with his sexual needs, a different thing altogether |
| 18:01.53 | art3mis | true i suppose, but she's supposedly a nice little slut |
| 18:02.02 | art3mis | who just happens to dig spankings |
| 18:02.29 | art3mis | man 5 DC's in ab in the last 10 mins |
| 18:02.32 | art3mis | this is awesome! |
| 18:03.14 | Thunder_Child | i just got a txt message that says "Party harty, drink bacardi, smoke a blunt, throw a party, beer is good, sex is great, ur my bitch for 2008" |
| 18:03.32 | Thunder_Child | and i have no idea who it is |
| 18:03.37 | art3mis | sorry wrong person |
| 18:04.07 | malreth | i think software should start getting shipped on usb flash drives now |
| 18:04.13 | Duman | heh |
| 18:04.13 | malreth | tiny shieldless ones |
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| 18:04.46 | malreth | software packaging would shrink to about the size of a playing card |
| 18:04.48 | malreth | or smaller |
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| 18:06.04 | alestane | art3mis: ping |
| 18:06.06 | Thunder_Child | why even bother with packaging, you could just yse the USB drive..and have it all tricked out |
| 18:06.08 | art3mis | hi! |
| 18:06.15 | Thunder_Child | use* |
| 18:06.31 | malreth | they can't be scratched and since they're rarely used should last for years and years |
| 18:06.32 | alestane | I have a couple textures for you. |
| 18:06.37 | art3mis | w00t! |
| 18:06.51 | art3mis | malreth: til the battery fails ;) |
| 18:07.01 | malreth | usb flash drives have no batteries |
| 18:07.05 | malreth | they're bus powered |
| 18:07.05 | art3mis | dammit |
| 18:07.25 | alestane | The textures are taller because of the hat, you'll have to realign them. |
| 18:07.47 | malreth | once the 8 gb ones become cheap enough, they can replace DL DVDs even |
| 18:08.02 | malreth | and they'd be faster to boot from in the case of OS installs |
| 18:09.29 | art3mis | alestane: okies |
| 18:09.30 | alestane | How should I send them to you? |
| 18:09.46 | art3mis | you can email or just fileshare post |
| 18:10.01 | art3mis | how much taller? |
| 18:10.27 | alestane | Double Height. |
| 18:10.48 | alestane | Cause they have to go straight from 64 to 128 pixels. |
| 18:11.00 | art3mis | yeah dcc doesnt work right ;P |
| 18:11.05 | alestane | Did you get an upload request? |
| 18:12.44 | art3mis | my dcc doesnt accept |
| 18:12.51 | art3mis | it's broken |
| 18:12.56 | Duman | firewall? |
| 18:13.01 | art3mis | no client |
| 18:13.20 | art3mis | it doesnt like using available ports ;P |
| 18:13.32 | art3mis | technically its because of the router |
| 18:13.48 | art3mis | but more so because it sucks ;P |
| 18:15.02 | wereHamster | malreth, on wikipedia I've read that even if you overwrote a flash drive continuously with full speed, it would last some 50 or so years |
| 18:15.20 | malreth | most likely |
| 18:15.31 | Pandya | yeah, flash drive read/write cycles are a non-issue these days |
| 18:16.23 | alestane | art3mis: Try http://genjitsugames.com/HKittyBase.tga and http://genjitsugames.com/HKittyActive.tga |
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| 18:17.11 | wereHamster | but all flash drives are formated with fat (my 8GB was..) which makes it unusable for >2gb files, therefore I'm looking forward to LogFS which should be merged into 2.6.25 |
| 18:17.42 | kergoth | logfs? |
| 18:18.11 | wereHamster | logfs.org |
| 18:19.02 | kergoth | won't help you, if it's anything like jffs2, it has to operate on an mtd device, and usb mass storage devices only give you access at the block layer |
| 18:20.54 | wereHamster | does mtd have the 2gb limitation as well? |
| 18:21.41 | kergoth | mtd is just low level access to flash devices, it isnt a filesystem |
| 18:21.46 | kergoth | a flash filesystem runs on it |
| 18:21.50 | kergoth | jffs2, yaffs, whatever |
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| 18:23.05 | MentalPower|ZzZz | wereHamster: theres also the ExFAT spec thats was created by MS |
| 18:26.21 | Thunder_Child | wereHamster, you can format your flash drive to whatever you want |
| 18:26.30 | Thunder_Child | or at least mine can..... |
| 18:27.59 | foxlit | /ponder |
| 18:28.32 | foxlit | Can find 1m primes in 25s with lua :/ |
| 18:28.58 | foxlit | Java does the same trick in 5s |
| 18:29.54 | malreth | foxlit: it must be something that you're doing wrong |
| 18:30.19 | foxlit | Probably |
| 18:30.29 | foxlit | I don't pre-allocate the table in lua |
| 18:30.38 | foxlit | So I suppose it can lose time resizing it eventually |
| 18:32.03 | MentalPower | yes you do |
| 18:32.26 | MentalPower | paste yer code, we can disect it |
| 18:32.37 | MentalPower | dissect even |
| 18:33.01 | foxlit | http://foxlit.pastey.net/78786 |
| 18:34.30 | foxlit | moo? :) |
| 18:37.16 | malreth | well.. i have learned that i need a faster laptop. :p |
| 18:37.25 | foxlit | I'm slightly cheating |
| 18:37.34 | foxlit | (using luajit instead of lua to interpret it) |
| 18:38.01 | foxlit | The default interpreter struggles, generaly |
| 18:38.33 | wereHamster | 1m45.133s :( |
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| 18:38.47 | foxlit | 1m0.809s with lua |
| 18:38.58 | foxlit | Hm, sec |
| 18:39.17 | foxlit | rule two of benchmarking: don't change code between runs |
| 18:40.07 | wereHamster | and rule 1? |
| 18:40.16 | foxlit | Never forget Rule One. |
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| 18:40.31 | wereHamster | ~fail wereHamster |
| 18:40.31 | purl | wereHamster: Fail. |
| 18:40.35 | alestane | That's not the code I would have used, although mine would probably not be higher performance. |
| 18:41.33 | foxlit | 1m14s on the pastey code |
| 18:43.09 | foxlit | alestane: describe :) |
| 18:43.54 | alestane | Well, for instance I probably would have used while not primes[1000000] do instead of using a separate counter variable. |
| 18:44.11 | alestane | And for _, prime in next, primes do |
| 18:45.36 | alestane | But linguistic "purity" often costs in cycle performance. |
| 18:47.25 | foxlit | comparatively, java, 0m5.302s |
| 18:47.51 | malreth | alestane: numeric-for in lua is faster than the generic-for |
| 18:49.06 | alestane | Yes, although it also returns the prime so you don't have to index it later. Don't know if that counts for anything. Also, I did say it was probably not higher performance. |
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| 18:49.59 | malreth | just re-affirming what you said |
| 18:50.19 | malreth | i need to practice my yes-speak to be a good manager |
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| 18:52.30 | Drea | heya folks! |
| 18:54.31 | Drea | mrphlthxpldng. |
| 18:54.43 | Drea | well gmornin mal. lol |
| 18:54.59 | alestane | Also, not using a counter variable saves you incrementing it, but also relies on using table.insert() or #tbl. |
| 18:55.05 | foxlit | Woah |
| 18:55.14 | foxlit | And C gives 5.3s with the same method |
| 18:55.34 | foxlit | Which places java somewhere in the land of "quite good" |
| 18:55.47 | Drea | just thought i'd pop in and say hola! |
| 18:57.59 | leethal | how is this done? http://wow.curse.com/downloads/details/8291/ |
| 18:58.04 | leethal | unit frames for enemy players? |
| 18:58.14 | leethal | it's just estimates, I guess? No unit ids? |
| 18:58.28 | Kaso | via targets etc |
| 18:58.55 | Kaso | then you set the unit frame to execute macroscript "/target <name>" when you are comfortably out of combat |
| 18:59.17 | leethal | ah, right |
| 18:59.37 | Kaso | Our guild has a similar addon, it works quite well |
| 18:59.55 | Kaso | you can even do Casting bars etc quite well |
| 19:00.40 | Kaso | our guild one is synced over channel so that the unitframes appear in the same order for everyone on the team which makes it easier to issue commands |
| 19:01.16 | Kaso | "Cube, sheep 1", "Demoa fear 2" etc |
| 19:03.44 | foxlit | So no other ingenious optimizations to prime code? |
| 19:04.11 | Xinhuan | yes |
| 19:04.19 | Xinhuan | dont check for division by 3 |
| 19:04.26 | Xinhuan | instead of n=n+2 per loop |
| 19:04.28 | malreth | well, you're making a grand assumption that we even know what these so-called "prime" numbers are... |
| 19:04.44 | Xinhuan | do n=n+6, and check the numbers (n-1) and (n+1) for primes |
| 19:04.51 | Xinhuan | so you can omit division by 3 |
| 19:05.17 | Xinhuan | i.e, n will be 6, 12, 18, 24, 30... but you check the numbers 2, 7, 11, 13, 17, 19, etc |
| 19:06.14 | malreth | mmm... lunch time... |
| 19:06.30 | Xinhuan | it mainly "unrolling the loop" as well |
| 19:07.05 | foxlit | Xinhuan: that's relatively nice, but. |
| 19:07.25 | foxlit | The time difference between doing division by 2 and not doing division by 2 is around .4s |
| 19:07.56 | Xinhuan | when yu're checking 1 million numbers, that extra 500k division checks add up |
| 19:08.10 | foxlit | To around .4s |
| 19:08.16 | foxlit | out of 22 |
| 19:08.53 | Xinhuan | still, this is mainly an algorithm thing as opposed to making lua run it faster really |
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| 19:11.32 | Beladona | morning |
| 19:11.53 | foxlit | You're simply moving division by three from the CPU into program code; could theoretically do the same with every other low prime |
| 19:14.20 | Cairenn | hi Beladona |
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| 19:19.06 | Xinhuan | yes |
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| 19:22.42 | Xinhuan | there isn't really any other way to do prime sieving anyway |
| 19:27.08 | alestane | Cairenn: Everyone else is probably sick of this but you were out of town when I wanted to ask...one of my add-ons on WoWI went from 4600 downloads to over 21000 in under two days. Was this some kind of server glitch or something? |
| 19:27.29 | Cairenn | link please |
| 19:28.03 | alestane | http://wowinterface.com/downloads/info7162-Demonomicon.html |
| 19:28.24 | Cairenn | looking into it |
| 19:28.30 | alestane | kk |
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| 19:29.58 | zenzelezz | sometimes I really disagree with my guild... until Wednesday we have 25 people attuned to Hyjal, today five of those can't come, so they insist on wiping over and over on trash packs for Anetheron |
| 19:30.24 | Cairenn | alestane: most likely a download bot, we're going to reset the download counter |
| 19:30.42 | alestane | That was our problem with BWL. |
| 19:30.52 | alestane | It just made me go WTF? |
| 19:31.32 | dylanm | Man just run something else :p |
| 19:32.14 | Cairenn | it shows 4600 again alestane |
| 19:32.29 | zenzelezz | dylanm: nothing else left alive until Wednesday |
| 19:32.34 | dylanm | Run Zul'Aman until everyone is flashing a Jin'rohk even if they don't need it. |
| 19:33.27 | alestane | Whatever works for you. I wasn't sure if it got linked into some automated download thing, or if it was some kind of DOS on your site, or just every warlock in China discovering my mod on the same day...but that seemed unlikely. |
| 19:33.37 | Cairenn | heh |
| 19:33.53 | Cairenn | someone with a spam download bot, not the first time, won't be the last |
| 19:33.58 | dylanm | Why? |
| 19:34.14 | Cairenn | how they decide which one to randomly hit we've no idea |
| 19:34.34 | dylanm | I mean, what's the purpose behind such a thing? "My bandwidth is free so I'll just waste someone else's?" |
| 19:34.49 | Cairenn | dylanm: pretty much |
| 19:34.53 | dylanm | Rock out. |
| 19:35.11 | Cairenn | one word says it all: |
| 19:35.15 | Cairenn | "people" |
| 19:35.18 | Cairenn | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:36.08 | Cairenn | dolby-wowi'll be busy trying to trace back the bot and ban the ip addy |
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| 19:46.26 | malreth | http://www.cultpunk.com/?p=231 |
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| 19:51.15 | foxlit | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MTbX1aMajow&feature=related |
| 19:56.59 | kergoth | if any jc's with prospecting are bored, could use a tester for http://git.kergoth.com/wow/Prospector/blob/?id=f428dac657a7520116c16a53344b24b5dff2c445&path=Prospector-3rc1.zip , just make sure it behaves and the slash command works |
| 19:57.15 | Drea | where can i find a site that will tell me what number values will create what color for text? |
| 19:58.07 | malreth | !g web color picker |
| 19:58.14 | batbot | malreth: VisiBone Webmaster's Color Lab <http://www.visibone.com/colorlab/> |
| 19:58.18 | art3mis | http://www.wishlist.nu/wp-content/uploads/2007/07/hello-kit-set-02.jpg |
| 19:59.01 | Drea | many thanks mal |
| 19:59.45 | malreth | any web color picker will do |
| 19:59.52 | malreth | they're just RGB values |
| 20:00.09 | Drea | those values will work in wow correct? |
| 20:00.17 | Drea | for settin text color? |
| 20:00.19 | malreth | yes... |
| 20:00.37 | malreth | chat text codes take a 32-bit hexadecimal format |
| 20:00.39 | Drea | ok, the decimal threw me off. :D |
| 20:00.55 | malreth | while most API calls will be a triplet of 8 bit decimal values (0-255) |
| 20:01.18 | malreth | sometimes with an alpha value argument |
| 20:01.44 | Drea | i just wanna do FontString:SetTextColor(r,g,b,a) |
| 20:02.03 | malreth | yeah... use decimal values... 0-255 for each argument |
| 20:02.19 | malreth | higher numbers me higher luminance for that color value |
| 20:02.26 | Drea | hmm. it says to use 0-1 range. |
| 20:02.30 | malreth | ah... nm |
| 20:02.48 | malreth | normalized to a float value between 0-1 inclusive |
| 20:02.53 | Drea | ahh i'll just screw with it, and figger it out |
| 20:03.30 | malreth | if the color picker gives you a value between 0-255, just divide the number by 255 to get a normalized float |
| 20:03.55 | malreth | 0=0, 128=0.5, 255=1 |
| 20:03.59 | malreth | for example |
| 20:05.19 | Drea | check. thanks. :D |
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| 20:40.52 | malreth | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ORXhn5B4_oM |
| 20:45.00 | malreth | and for something wow-releated... boy uses taunt, feign death on a moose, and succeeds... http://torillsin.blogspot.com/2007/11/feign-death-really-works.html |
| 21:03.04 | Fisker- | old news |
| 21:03.05 | Fisker- | also |
| 21:03.07 | Fisker- | lame |
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| 21:03.40 | Rayne | O_o |
| 21:05.25 | |Jelly| | ? |
| 21:06.08 | Shirik|AFK | ! |
| 21:06.31 | Shirik | <--- Just nailed his OS final and thinks he nailed his Telecomms final too |
| 21:06.50 | Intangir | id like to nail the telecomms right out of the countrty |
| 21:07.01 | Shirik | then you wouldn't have IRC |
| 21:07.01 | Cairenn | Shirik: good :) |
| 21:07.10 | Intangir | wed get new ones that dont have monopolies |
| 21:07.11 | Shirik | This is the worst part though |
| 21:07.13 | Rayne | Id like Jelly to Nail his Fist into my throat, if you know what I mean |
| 21:07.28 | Shirik | I got the highest grade on the OS test.... I had a 91% in that class. (90% is an A). I got an 88% on the final |
| 21:07.45 | Shirik | All he can tell me is that "I think you got an A" >< |
| 21:07.51 | Cairenn | rofl |
| 21:07.51 | Intangir | "well i hope you left enough room for my fist! cause im going to jam it into your stomach! and break your goddamn spine!" |
| 21:07.58 | |Jelly| | Rayne, no offense but as of late, I'm not really, you know, in the mood for anything. |
| 21:08.23 | Intangir | Shirik: eh oh |
| 21:08.24 | Rayne | omfg |
| 21:08.29 | Rayne | I said shrigs |
| 21:08.41 | Shirik | but what's really going to kick my ass is the physics final tomorrow |
| 21:08.42 | Rayne | im going to go ponder my sanity brb |
| 21:08.45 | Shirik | so I must be studying that now |
| 21:09.05 | Intangir | Shirik: just dont show up for the class |
| 21:09.08 | Intangir | when he asks why you didnt come |
| 21:09.18 | Intangir | say 'objects at rest stay at rest' |
| 21:09.24 | Cairenn | lol |
| 21:09.27 | Shirik | yeah um, that was 2 years ago |
| 21:09.33 | Shirik | we don't study that anymore :P |
| 21:09.33 | Intangir | hehehe |
| 21:09.52 | Intangir | i study that ever morning |
| 21:10.03 | Intangir | every time i forget to set my alarm clock |
| 21:10.04 | Shirik | I don't know why I'm freaking out about the physics final really |
| 21:10.13 | Shirik | I have a 78% in that class, I just want a C (but a B would be so nice) |
| 21:11.31 | Shirik | the final is 25% of the grade so... |
| 21:11.36 | Shirik | lua> .75 * .78 |
| 21:11.36 | lua_bot | Shirik: 0.585 |
| 21:11.42 | Shirik | if I get a 0 I will barely get an F :P |
| 21:11.54 | Shirik | If I get like any questions right, I pass :P |
| 21:14.26 | zenzelezz | you'd think that by the time you hit Mount Hyjal, people would know *not* to talk to NPCs before you knew everyoen was ready |
| 21:14.44 | Shirik | lol |
| 21:15.38 | zenzelezz | Anetheron down on second day, third time we reach him, with 21 people; and someone starts the event before we get the loot |
| 21:16.14 | Taeri | you underestimate stupidity of people. |
| 21:17.50 | Rayne | god damnit |
| 21:18.15 | Rayne | WoW keeps copying my UI settings to my hunter even though I clear them cause im trying to build something new :( |
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| 21:20.55 | Rayne | grawr |
| 21:21.06 | Rayne | I dont feel like resetting everything |
| 21:21.36 | JoshBorke | someone give me some table recycling code :-/ |
| 21:21.42 | JoshBorke | i'm too lazy to make it up myself |
| 21:22.08 | foxlit | I've got table recycling code |
| 21:22.12 | foxlit | local table = {}; |
| 21:22.25 | foxlit | -- garbage collector handles this perfectly |
| 21:22.40 | foxlit | -- (but you way want to forget about the table library) |
| 21:22.45 | MentalPower | JoshBorke: http://svn.norganna.org/libs/trunk/Configator/LibRecycle.lua |
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| 21:23.51 | JoshBorke | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:24.42 | JoshBorke | i'm only recycling very specific tables |
| 21:24.43 | MentalPower | hash tables do shrink back |
| 21:25.21 | MentalPower | and if you're constantly adding/removing entries at the same rate they will also not increase |
| 21:25.23 | JoshBorke | whoa man, that's a lot of code :-/ |
| 21:26.16 | MentalPower | *shurg* it works |
| 21:27.16 | kergoth | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:28.36 | MentalPower | he means that if he adds 1mill hash entries and then removes all of them, and starts adding back the table will not shrink back to a decent size |
| 21:29.09 | kergoth | is that new? i've never seen that behavior |
| 21:29.25 | MentalPower | its not the way it works |
| 21:29.34 | MentalPower | I corrected him |
| 21:29.39 | kergoth | ah, good |
| 21:31.52 | kergoth | isn't http://wowwiki.com/Useful_macros/Hunter#Maximize_pet_threat_and_dps a bit unnecessary? it manually casts dash.. why not leave it on auto, the pet will hit it as soon as you sen dhim in.. |
| 21:34.40 | malreth | it works the same way as elevator call buttons and those crosswalk signal buttons... the more you press them, the faster it goes |
| 21:37.39 | kergoth | hehe |
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| 22:21.32 | Intangir | hey Tuller how goes it |
| 22:21.33 | JoshBorke | so apparently you can cast while entering world |
| 22:21.49 | Tuller | Intangir: hello, and fine :) |
| 22:48.04 | |Jelly| | http://www.explosm.net/comics/342/ |
| 22:51.07 | art3mis | now to wait for cairenn ;P |
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| 22:51.40 | malreth | art3mis: ping |
| 22:51.45 | Cairenn | art3mis: ? |
| 22:52.03 | art3mis | hi mal! |
| 22:52.10 | art3mis | hkui updates ;P |
| 22:52.20 | Cairenn | nowai! |
| 22:52.22 | malreth | art3mis: your new HKUI... |
| 22:52.33 | art3mis | http://www.gothi.ca/Stuff/hkui-xmas.jpg |
| 22:52.35 | malreth | there is a special place in hell for people like you |
| 22:52.38 | malreth | :p |
| 22:52.43 | art3mis | http://www.gothi.ca/Stuff/hkui-cycircled.jpg |
| 22:52.51 | Cairenn | virus! denied! |
| 22:53.08 | foxlit | Meh |
| 22:53.12 | art3mis | it doesnt HAVE a virus |
| 22:53.15 | foxlit | Need a hello kitty UI that actually looks good! |
| 22:53.17 | art3mis | it IS a virus ;P |
| 22:53.20 | Cairenn | you ARE a virus :p |
| 22:54.01 | art3mis | foxlit: heh hey i'm doing the bwest i can with what ive got ;P |
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| 22:54.44 | foxlit | Tint the world pink, np |
| 22:54.48 | art3mis | laugh |
| 22:54.55 | art3mis | i actually considered skinning it ;P |
| 22:55.13 | art3mis | that would be awesome |
| 22:57.41 | zenzelezz | well, after defeating the trash before the first three bosses in Mount Hyjal, I have only one thing to say... thank god we recruited that prot paladin |
| 22:57.50 | malreth | i wonder if you can change the vertex colors of the WorldFrame? |
| 22:57.58 | foxlit | your other tanks incompetent? |
| 22:58.01 | malreth | then you can just tint it pink |
| 22:58.03 | foxlit | malreth: very probably nothing |
| 22:58.12 | foxlit | since it's rendering, not a texture |
| 22:58.22 | zenzelezz | foxlit: nope, but prot paladins are far superior to warrior tanks in grabbing and holding so many mobs |
| 22:58.30 | malreth | well then, just create a child frame to the WorldFrame and tint that pink |
| 22:58.36 | foxlit | child texture |
| 22:58.42 | [dRaCo] | but an opaque overlay would do |
| 22:58.42 | malreth | or that |
| 22:59.01 | zenzelezz | string "WorldFrame:SetVertexColor"... attempt to call SetVertexColor, a nil value |
| 22:59.06 | foxlit | Frames have an annoying quality of being frames :) |
| 22:59.07 | malreth | i should do that and release it as GirlyVision for Girly comic fans |
| 22:59.28 | Cairenn | point of interest? |
| 22:59.31 | Cairenn | <== girl |
| 22:59.34 | Cairenn | <== hates pink |
| 22:59.49 | malreth | !g girly comic josh lesnick |
| 22:59.59 | zenzelezz | a girl in my former gulid was obsessed with pink... even her UI was pink |
| 23:00.02 | foxlit | Get in touch with your masculine side, Cairenn, and embrace the pink! |
| 23:00.07 | Cairenn | rofl |
| 23:00.15 | malreth | ~wiki girly comic |
| 23:00.23 | malreth | booo |
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| 23:00.35 | malreth | http://www.go-girly.com/ |
| 23:01.12 | malreth | the earlier comics were monochrome dark pink and white |
| 23:03.06 | malreth | http://joshlesnick.com/34.html |
| 23:04.29 | Drea | argh, i hate goin crazy |
| 23:05.01 | malreth | read the 34 comic link just above... that |
| 23:05.05 | malreth | that'll make you crazy |
| 23:07.19 | Kaso | I hate it when TV shows go off air over christmas |
| 23:07.43 | Kaso | Surely i've more reason to watch house over christmas as im off uni and have less to do! |
| 23:08.03 | Drea | tomtom is makin me crazy lool |
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| 23:09.14 | foxlit | cat vs ron paul? |
| 23:09.48 | MentalPower | ~seen legorol |
| 23:09.52 | purl | legorol <n=legorol@stud-nat-blk12.trin.cam.ac.uk> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowi-lounge, 5d 20h 22m 15s ago, saying: 'yay, i answered my own question, i finally understood how instance cascading used to work'. |
| 23:11.07 | Drea | is Clad watchin? |
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| 23:12.05 | kaiden | Anyone here good at macros? trying to figure out how to fix one, i have a mount macro that i use to dismount if i'm mounted and to mount if i'm not, however, when i'm mounted and use it.. it immediately tries to mount me back up even though it comes before the dismount |
| 23:12.50 | zenzelezz | post it? |
| 23:13.13 | kaiden | http://ace.pastey.net/78793 |
| 23:13.15 | foxlit | If you /use a mount while mounted |
| 23:13.21 | foxlit | You'd probably dismount anyway |
| 23:13.33 | kaiden | foxlit, yes but it would continue casting the mount... which i dont want |
| 23:13.38 | kaiden | this is for doing the netherwing daily quests |
| 23:13.44 | kaiden | so i can quickly dismount my flying mount and land |
| 23:13.52 | foxlit | Why do you want to land? :) |
| 23:13.55 | zenzelezz | don't know if it matters, but isn't it /use ? |
| 23:14.06 | [dRaCo] | /use and /cast are the same |
| 23:14.08 | NightHawkTheSane | "/cast" and "/use" are synonymous |
| 23:14.08 | foxlit | They're somewhat interchangable |
| 23:14.10 | Drea | QUESTION! hopefully someone can answer it. |
| 23:14.20 | kaiden | foxlit, ..... this is for doing the Netherwing Daily quests |
| 23:14.33 | kaiden | foxlit, you have to dismount to quickly shoot the flying transporters |
| 23:14.42 | [dRaCo] | kaiden: guess you need a stopmaco somewhere... not sure where, though |
| 23:14.42 | wereHamster | ANSWER! |
| 23:14.44 | foxlit | Meh, you're doing it somewhat wrong :) |
| 23:14.55 | foxlit | You pick a rock to stand on, they fly at you :) |
| 23:15.01 | Drea | tom tom does NOT put an arrow in the middle of your screen with info on direciton and distance to a waypoint? |
| 23:15.03 | kaiden | [dRaCo], yeah i've tried with stopmacro |
| 23:15.04 | NightHawkTheSane | ^^ |
| 23:15.13 | kaiden | foxlit, yes because i want to stand there all day waiting instead of hopping from rock to rock |
| 23:15.15 | foxlit | Doesn't solve your macro problem, but anyway |
| 23:15.16 | kaiden | to kill them more quickly |
| 23:15.18 | [dRaCo] | Drea: sound like cart_waypoints |
| 23:15.25 | [dRaCo] | *sounds |
| 23:15.26 | Drea | cartographer huh? darnit |
| 23:15.35 | NightHawkTheSane | That said, I dont see why that wouldn't work. I use a /cast [nomounted] item:<itemdid>; /dismount [mounted];" macro without a problem |
| 23:18.02 | kaiden | NightHawkTheSane, and if you read what i said, i said it immediately starts trying to recast my purple gryphon rather than just stopping |
| 23:18.07 | Kelfarr | wow titan panel has 10,000,000 downloads on curse... |
| 23:18.09 | kaiden | essentially it's like it's looping the macro when it shouldn't be able to |
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| 23:18.30 | NightHawkTheSane | kaiden: I did, and I'm saying I |
| 23:18.32 | Intangir | Ron Paul people |
| 23:18.36 | NightHawkTheSane | I'm not sure why it doesn't work. :P |
| 23:18.39 | foxlit | disabled everything to test that it still behaves that way? |
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| 23:18.50 | Intangir | if you dont know who he is.. well first of all what rock have you been living under and second of all go search his name on youtube |
| 23:18.57 | Kaso | AH Ron Paul |
| 23:19.11 | foxlit | Intangir: where did you come from? :) |
| 23:19.14 | Kaso | The craziest person ever to make it to a preidential campange |
| 23:19.21 | [dRaCo] | epic rickrolling going on? |
| 23:19.22 | [dRaCo] | :> |
| 23:19.28 | Intangir | Kaso: crazy like a fox |
| 23:19.47 | Kaso | More like a Crow, a crow obsessed with shiny shiny gold |
| 23:19.58 | Intangir | ron paul is the only one NOT crazy |
| 23:20.04 | Kaso | oh god |
| 23:20.09 | Kaso | you're one of them! |
| 23:20.11 | Intangir | everyone else wants more taxes more war more police state bullshit |
| 23:20.18 | Intangir | im a patriot |
| 23:20.20 | Intangir | your damn right i am |
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| 23:20.25 | Intangir | im an american who loves liberty |
| 23:20.35 | Intangir | and you should have the spine and integrity to stand for what you KNOW to be right |
| 23:20.41 | Intangir | dont support the CFR taht takes away your liberties |
| 23:21.00 | Kaso | An american who loves genecide in darfur ! |
| 23:21.14 | Intangir | he doesnt support genocide anywhere |
| 23:21.21 | Intangir | he doesnt support preemptive war either |
| 23:21.28 | Intangir | he doesnt support illegal war |
| 23:21.34 | Intangir | he doesnt support MORE and MORe war without a declaration |
| 23:21.55 | foxlit | "NAFTA’s superhighway is just one part of a plan to erase the borders between the U.S. and Mexico, called the North American Union. This spawn of powerful special interests, would create a single nation out of Canada, the U.S. and Mexico, with a new unelected bureaucracy and money system. Forget about controlling immigration under this scheme." |
| 23:21.57 | Intangir | he doesnt support a financial system which allows corporation to getrich murdering citizens of sovereign nations which pose no threat to us at our expense |
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| 23:22.01 | foxlit | Sounds like a regular lunatic |
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| 23:22.15 | Intangir | ya its fucking crazy huh foxlit |
| 23:22.16 | Intangir | who would want that |
| 23:22.26 | bleeter_ | bah |
| 23:22.28 | Intangir | thats RIGHT out of the CFRs plans |
| 23:22.50 | foxlit | cfr? |
| 23:22.58 | Intangir | i know there are other people in here who know whats really going on speak up, dont be intimidated by ignorant name calling |
| 23:23.10 | Intangir | http://www.cfr.org/ |
| 23:23.14 | Intangir | heres another gem |
| 23:23.14 | Intangir | http://www.cfr.org/publication/14335/ |
| 23:23.17 | Cairenn|afk | temper people |
| 23:23.22 | Intangir | this is why huckabee is suddenly a mainstream candidate |
| 23:23.48 | Intangir | the CFRs stated goal is to disolve our borders and move us into a one world government |
| 23:24.05 | Intangir | and the trans texas corirdor, nafta superhighway IS a step in that goal |
| 23:24.17 | foxlit | Too many links, takes ages to filter through the bs on all of them |
| 23:24.19 | Intangir | ron paul is the only one fighting it |
| 23:24.26 | Intangir | 2 links is too many? |
| 23:24.37 | Kaso | yah those other humans born in other abritary areas of land! Why would we ever want to deal with them! Fuck em. |
| 23:24.47 | foxlit | When you want me to analyze viewpoints presented in entire websites, yeah |
| 23:24.59 | malreth | actually, i can't wait for the NAFTA superhighway |
| 23:24.59 | Intangir | Kaso: do you realize your saying exactly what our forieng policy has been based on? |
| 23:25.05 | Intangir | embargos on iraq = FUCK THEM |
| 23:25.08 | Intangir | trading with them = help them |
| 23:25.15 | Intangir | war with them = FUCK THEM |
| 23:25.16 | malreth | it'll make driving from austin to dallas a lot easier, i think |
| 23:25.28 | Intangir | malreth: alot more expensive you mean |
| 23:25.30 | Intangir | youll have to pay tolls |
| 23:25.36 | malreth | ah... even better |
| 23:25.37 | Intangir | actually i dont htink it goes thru dallas anyway |
| 23:25.43 | malreth | keep all the riffraff off the road |
| 23:26.05 | Intangir | please god tell me your not a texan with a statement that stupid.. |
| 23:26.23 | malreth | i don't know what you mean by that... but i shore am a Texan |
| 23:26.29 | Intangir | no your not |
| 23:26.34 | malreth | and spell it with a capital T, like God intended |
| 23:26.40 | Intangir | no real texan would willingly clamor for the destruction of our state and country |
| 23:26.42 | Kaso | I never said they current policy of america was good, just that i dont think paul's xenophobic policies are a good one. |
| 23:27.01 | Intangir | Kaso: your clearly misinformed, hes not xenophobic at all |
| 23:27.02 | malreth | Intangir: is that like how no real scotsman would eat ketchup with their eggs? |
| 23:27.15 | Kaso | He wants to strip citizenship from american born people who have forigen parents? how is that not xenophobic |
| 23:27.17 | Intangir | but hed rather actually HELP other countries, by trading with them , rather than invading them and murdering millions of their citizens |
| 23:27.45 | Intangir | he wants to not give citizen ship to 'anchor babies' thats where they illegally come into the country to have babies and then have them get citizen ship |
| 23:27.51 | foxlit | What I'm reading is "leave free trade agreements" |
| 23:27.51 | Intangir | most other countries in the world dont have that |
| 23:28.03 | Intangir | its validating breaking our laws with a reward |
| 23:28.39 | Kaso | So you're saying someone who's lived his entire life in america, paid all his taxes to america should be punished for something his parents did before he was born? |
| 23:28.41 | Intangir | nafta isnt free trade, just cause it calls it that doesnt mean its what it is |
| 23:28.47 | Intangir | just like the patriot act isnt really patriotic.. |
| 23:29.13 | Intangir | Kaso: so your saying you cant fucking read what im saying? |
| 23:29.19 | Intangir | i guess not cause i didnt say anything remotely similar to that |
| 23:29.25 | Intangir | hes not wanting to STRIP anyways citizen ship |
| 23:29.27 | Intangir | i just cleared that |
| 23:29.30 | malreth | NAFTA is fair... it screws Mexicans and Canadians equally! |
| 23:29.34 | Intangir | hes wanting to not grant it to illegal aliens |
| 23:29.45 | Intangir | it screws us, it screws us the worst |
| 23:30.14 | malreth | ah... well if it does that, it's because we deserve iti |
| 23:30.15 | malreth | it |
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| 23:30.34 | Intangir | why? cause we keep voting for traitors in the CFR to fuck us over? |
| 23:30.37 | Intangir | i dont vote for them |
| 23:30.37 | foxlit | How can a highway screw anyone? |
| 23:30.39 | Intangir | and i dont deserve it |
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| 23:30.49 | Intangir | the highway weakens our security |
| 23:30.54 | Intangir | they will have mexican police policing it as well |
| 23:31.08 | Intangir | so americans can finally have the privilege of being pulled over and having bribes demanded from them on the roadside |
| 23:31.12 | Intangir | as in mexico |
| 23:31.14 | malreth | they'll be easy to spot.. they'll be the cops in VW bugs |
| 23:31.29 | Intangir | we can finally have the priviledge of being forced to submit to a foreign authority in our own country |
| 23:31.41 | Intangir | also the trucks arent checked, they can drive anywhere they want |
| 23:31.44 | Intangir | right thru the border |
| 23:31.45 | Intangir | with anything |
| 23:31.51 | foxlit | "weakens our security" = odd |
| 23:32.00 | Intangir | did you hear about the story a couple months ago where a truck exploded, it was full of dynomite, heading RIGHT INTO THE COUNTRY |
| 23:32.01 | foxlit | "mexican police" = ohnoes, the mexicans! |
| 23:32.04 | Intangir | killed 20+ people |
| 23:32.13 | Intangir | foxlit: youve clearly never been to mexico |
| 23:32.25 | Intangir | also it puts a ton of truckers out of work |
| 23:32.30 | malreth | Intangir: clearly you've never lived in America! :D |
| 23:32.50 | Intangir | you think being fucked over defines people as americans? |
| 23:32.51 | Intangir | i disagree |
| 23:32.56 | Intangir | and we dont have to put up with it |
| 23:32.57 | Intangir | vote ron paul |
| 23:32.58 | foxlit | "Mexicans are bad, 'kay?" is what you're trying to suggest? |
| 23:33.02 | Intangir | or you can enjoy the status quo |
| 23:33.24 | Intangir | dude.. |
| 23:33.28 | Intangir | argue the points of the debate |
| 23:33.32 | Intangir | not call me a racist |
| 23:33.37 | Intangir | i didnt say that at all and your fucking know it |
| 23:33.47 | Intangir | mexican cops are corrupt though |
| 23:33.52 | Intangir | mexico is corrupt as hell |
| 23:33.56 | malreth | What is the Baptist Church's position on Ron Paul? I'll only vote for him if Jesus says it's okay. |
| 23:34.00 | Intangir | its one of the most rich countries as far as national resources |
| 23:34.05 | Intangir | and yet they flood across the border |
| 23:34.08 | Intangir | why? cause mexico sucks |
| 23:34.12 | Wobwork | Ron Paul sounds like a pornstar name =\ |
| 23:34.14 | Intangir | cause of the corruption |
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| 23:34.20 | foxlit | Drivel, intangir. |
| 23:34.22 | Intangir | so should we bring that corruption right on in to OUR coutnry? hell no |
| 23:34.30 | Intangir | foxlit: your a dipshit |
| 23:34.38 | Wobwork | Intangir: too late? =) |
| 23:34.43 | Intangir | fortunately as dumb as you are im sure you cant figure out how to vote so i guess i dont have to waste my time on you |
| 23:34.44 | malreth | Right! We should instead focus on improving our own home brewed corruption! |
| 23:34.55 | Wobwork | malreth: hehe, precisely =) |
| 23:35.02 | malreth | Starting with Starbucks... mmm... brew |
| 23:35.18 | Intangir | to the other ron paul supporters in here, thanks for speaking up,.. very courageous of you to sit quietly and let the dipshit trolls run the channel |
| 23:35.19 | Wobwork | worst coffee ever |
| 23:35.31 | Wobwork | Oh I support Ron Paul |
| 23:35.41 | Wobwork | Anyone with two names like first names is alright in my book! |
| 23:35.42 | zenzelezz | what makes you think there are Ron Paul supporters in here? |
| 23:35.45 | foxlit | I'm afraid you're doing your own trolling left right and center. |
| 23:35.48 | zenzelezz | or that they'd want to support you? |
| 23:35.54 | *** part/#wowi-lounge Intangir (i=Intangir@c-98-197-209-214.hsd1.tx.comcast.net) |
| 23:35.57 | Kaso | haha |
| 23:35.58 | Wobwork | =( |
| 23:36.02 | malreth | woot! |
| 23:36.03 | Kaso | I love paulites |
| 23:36.08 | malreth | he's so much fun to tease |
| 23:36.08 | Wobwork | Politics and wowi obviously don't mix =P |
| 23:36.19 | Kaso | http://www.brokenlibrarian.org/ronpaul/ - fun reading |
| 23:36.21 | foxlit | It's not even politics |
| 23:36.34 | foxlit | It's a failure to communicate worth anything |
| 23:36.52 | Wobwork | Sounds like politics to me =) |
| 23:37.14 | Kaso | I love how he's sure that the channel is fully of paul supporters they're just tooo scared to speak up due to some un-named conspiricy supressing them or whatever |
| 23:37.33 | foxlit | The librarians are hiding something! |
| 23:37.35 | Wobwork | The Man is keeping us down! |
| 23:37.51 | malreth | but i don't WANT to be pulled over by the Mexican police! |
| 23:38.01 | Drea | dangit. put cartographer on, and get errors up the wazoo |
| 23:38.05 | Wobwork | I don't want to be pulled over by the Victorian police =\ |
| 23:38.35 | foxlit | Isn't it a highway? |
| 23:38.53 | foxlit | Wouldn't pulling people over be sort of difficult? |
| 23:39.44 | Wobwork | well, if there's enough warning, you can be pulled over |
| 23:39.52 | Wobwork | big signs and arrows etc |
| 23:46.51 | Kaso | http://img.waffleimages.com/4249a60dde826a9cfcce530e4726a5075d4e1df2/potw_05.jpg |
| 23:46.58 | Kaso | Ah poor ron paul :( |
| 23:47.30 | foxlit | http://www.thedailyshow.com/video/index.jhtml?videoId=127751 poor Stephen :( |
| 23:47.57 | Drea | darnit why is cartographer so errorey? |
| 23:48.26 | malreth | probably something you did wrong... works fine here |
| 23:48.50 | malreth | :) |
| 23:49.09 | Drea | all i did was extract it to the addons directory and login. lol |
| 23:49.38 | Kaso | foxlit, you know what was most interesting about that to me? That the reason he didnt even apply to the republicans was thier filling fee was like 16x more expensive, somewhat telling i think |
| 23:50.06 | foxlit | Couldn't do that legally, I think |
| 23:50.08 | Drea | hmm. bah, i quit for now |
| 23:53.15 | Kaso | "Colbert had originally planned to run for both the Republican and Democratic nominations in his home state of South Carolina. Upon obtaining the forms to put himself on the ballot, however, he discovered to do so requires a non-refundable fee of $25,000 plus a $10,000 late fee for the Republican primary and $2,500 or three thousand signatures on a petition for the Democratic primary." |
| 23:53.28 | Kaso | Republicans; we like rich people! |
| 23:53.48 | Shirik | heh.... someone doesn't know how to use Windows apparently |
| 23:53.50 | Shirik | I'm reading this user guide |
| 23:53.51 | Shirik | and it says |
| 23:54.44 | Shirik | apparently something I can't copy and paste, etc. |
| 23:54.46 | Shirik | wtf* |
| 23:54.53 | Shirik | "To determine this order, use a command like this: |
| 23:54.59 | Shirik | Windows hosts |
| 23:54.59 | Shirik | ls -lt ‘find base_directory -name "*uninstall*.exe"‘ |
| 23:55.20 | Kaso | ls ? |
| 23:55.28 | Shirik | yeah... >.> |
| 23:55.47 | Shirik | C:\Users\mpdelbuono>ls |
| 23:55.47 | Shirik | 'ls' is not recognized as an internal or external command, |
| 23:55.47 | Shirik | operable program or batch file. |
| 23:55.47 | Shirik | C:\Users\mpdelbuono>echo =( |
| 23:55.47 | Shirik | =( |
| 23:57.34 | Kaso | ha |
| 23:59.33 | Rayne | crap |
