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| 00:00.51 | |Jelly| | restarted everything. flushed dns. still nothing. |
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| 00:03.46 | Kaso | what happens when you do nslookup forums.worldofwarcraft.com in cmd ? |
| 00:07.47 | Thunder_Child | Server: dns-cac-lb-01.orange.rr.com |
| 00:07.47 | Thunder_Child | Address: 66.75.164.90:53 |
| 00:07.47 | Thunder_Child | Non-authoritative answer: |
| 00:07.47 | Thunder_Child | Name: forums.worldofwarcraft.com |
| 00:07.47 | Thunder_Child | Address: 12.129.242.24 |
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| 00:15.03 | Intangir | mikma: whats up? |
| 00:15.21 | mikma | Intangir: http://wow.reaktio.net/bfl.txt |
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| 00:15.27 | *** mode/#wowi-lounge [+o cladhaire] by ChanServ |
| 00:15.50 | Intangir | what does /rl do? |
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| 00:16.09 | Guillotine | gives you a real life |
| 00:16.15 | cog|work | Intangir: reload ui (if you have an addon to do that) |
| 00:16.23 | mikma | :) |
| 00:16.25 | cog|work | I believe Ace2 includes it |
| 00:16.28 | Intangir | the alpha value is saved per character, (by blizzard) |
| 00:16.44 | Intangir | ok ill try reloading ui in a BG and see |
| 00:16.45 | Guillotine | Usually its just a reference to console reloadui |
| 00:16.46 | mikma | Intangir: when i change to another char and come back, the alpha has been reset |
| 00:16.58 | Intangir | mikma: ah, well in any case thats handled by blizzard |
| 00:17.06 | Intangir | ya i think i noticed that as well though |
| 00:17.15 | Intangir | i set the opacity to fully opaque |
| 00:17.22 | Intangir | and then when i logged out and in it was back at half |
| 00:17.28 | |Jelly| | Neither my desktop or my laptop will connect to the forums nor will Trillian (AIM) connect. |
| 00:17.34 | Intangir | maybe ill fix blizz's bug in my addon ;) |
| 00:17.34 | |Jelly| | ...starting to get really upset. |
| 00:17.53 | Intangir | |Jelly|: maybe your DNS is down |
| 00:18.28 | |Jelly| | And that would specifically make AIM and the forums not work but everything else be fine? .. |
| 00:18.41 | Intangir | well anything you were already on would still work |
| 00:18.45 | Intangir | anything you already resolved would |
| 00:18.50 | Intangir | but anything neww wouldnt |
| 00:19.26 | Intangir | well im heading out |
| 00:19.31 | Intangir | ill check out that bug later mikma thx |
| 00:19.40 | Intangir | <PROTECTED> |
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| 00:25.33 | cladhaire | http://images.gammatester.com/pics/abd205bffbee9404e614c463c1d0090d.png |
| 00:26.37 | bleeter | ~fail VrakthrisMoar |
| 00:26.37 | purl | VrakthrisMoar: Fail. |
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| 00:28.05 | bleeter | which is a pity, 'coz he seems a pretty decent chappy |
| 00:32.27 | Mr_Rabies2 | bwahaha |
| 00:32.46 | Mr_Rabies2 | it's funny seeing all these people i haven't talked to in years because they vanished from one community all of a sudden start popping up in another |
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| 00:37.39 | JoshBorke | cladhaire: looks good to me |
| 00:41.14 | |Jelly| | So AIM works again. The forums still give me a big fuck off though. lol |
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| 00:48.28 | bleeter | ~lart drysc |
| 00:48.28 | purl | beats drysc to within 2.54cm of his life |
| 00:48.57 | MentalPower | what now? |
| 00:49.00 | WobWork | hehe yay metric |
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| 00:49.30 | MentalPower | you know, its kinda rude to lart people when they cant defent themselves :) |
| 00:49.40 | Thunder_Child | ya, need a counter-lart |
| 00:49.41 | MentalPower | s/defent/defend/ |
| 00:50.23 | kaiden | ~lart kaiden |
| 00:50.23 | purl | send killer squirrels to attack kaiden |
| 00:50.27 | kaiden | self lart'ing is yummy |
| 00:50.59 | bleeter | MentalPower: there's a rule somewhere that says he can't lurk? |
| 00:51.23 | MentalPower | no, there isin't |
| 00:51.52 | MentalPower | anyways, you haven't answered my question |
| 00:51.58 | MentalPower | what did drysc do now? |
| 00:52.30 | bleeter | MentalPower: didn't explain why there's free xfers for high pop US realms, and 0% update on the Oceanic situation. |
| 00:53.10 | MentalPower | oh, I thought that list *included* oceanic realms |
| 00:53.12 | MentalPower | my bad |
| 00:53.41 | MentalPower | I don't have a list of Oceanic realms, so I don't know |
| 00:53.55 | MentalPower | and Drysc didn't mention anything either |
| 00:54.06 | MentalPower | I just thought the timing was interesting |
| 00:54.12 | bleeter | Barthilas, Frostmourne, Khaz'goroth, Jubeithos, Amanthul.... erm |
| 00:54.29 | bleeter | Nagrand, Thaurissan, Dath'Remar |
| 00:54.31 | Shirik | bleeter: Oceanic situation? |
| 00:54.44 | MentalPower | Shirik: most are locked daily |
| 00:54.49 | MentalPower | with no sign of letting off |
| 00:54.55 | Shirik | ow |
| 00:55.00 | bleeter | and full school holidays starting in a week |
| 00:55.04 | Shirik | I've never had to wait to log into a server |
| 00:55.05 | Shirik | ever. |
| 00:55.09 | MentalPower | and its been like that for a few long months now |
| 00:55.19 | bleeter | so the 5/8 lock in the evening will more than likely become a daily event |
| 00:55.28 | MentalPower | I have, before free transfers and server upgrades happened |
| 00:55.37 | bleeter | lock and 500+/30min+ queues |
| 00:55.51 | bleeter | MentalPower: how many realms? |
| 00:56.03 | MentalPower | just one, Alleria |
| 00:56.26 | MentalPower | we haven't been locked for a rather long time tho |
| 00:56.44 | bleeter | MentalPower: i meant, how many realms were live atm? |
| 00:56.54 | bleeter | er |
| 00:56.56 | bleeter | at the time |
| 00:57.18 | MentalPower | most of them, this was before summer of 06 |
| 00:57.37 | MentalPower | summer of 06 was when the server upgrades happened |
| 00:57.50 | haste | MentalPower: Grim batol EU saw 7k queues when blizzard didn't turn off free migration early enough |
| 00:57.57 | MentalPower | ouch! |
| 00:58.01 | bleeter | oh... yeah. I was on Khaz at that stage. |
| 00:58.11 | haste | basically 70% of the BB community migrated to it |
| 00:58.25 | bleeter | everyone would get disconnected at 9PM when honour updated 'coz of pop and lag |
| 00:58.25 | Thunder_Child | you sounds like old farts talking about..well...old stuff |
| 00:58.28 | Thunder_Child | sound* |
| 00:58.41 | bleeter | Oceanics still get the massive lag spikes at 9PM, but mostly don't disco these days |
| 00:58.56 | bleeter | raids will halt until it updates =) |
| 00:59.03 | WobWork | I disco all the time |
| 00:59.07 | MentalPower | bleeter: whats the usual latency for you guys |
| 00:59.11 | MentalPower | the server are in CA |
| 00:59.14 | WobWork | 300-500 |
| 00:59.17 | MentalPower | you're not exactly close |
| 00:59.21 | MentalPower | servers* |
| 00:59.46 | bleeter | MentalPower: I've been saying it ever since I started... I don't mind paying $5 more a month for layer 2 'cross the pacific |
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| 00:59.54 | bleeter | i'd prolly even go as high as $10 per month |
| 00:59.58 | bleeter | USD... fwiw atm |
| 01:00.03 | WobWork | bleeter: www.lowping.com ? |
| 01:00.40 | WobWork | hm |
| 01:01.09 | bleeter | pingpong extreme? |
| 01:01.10 | MentalPower | parked URL |
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| 01:01.32 | Gnarfoz | I like paying USD for stuff these days... it's so cheap when your normal currency is Euros ^^ |
| 01:02.07 | bleeter | lol euro |
| 01:02.09 | MentalPower | ~envy Gnarfoz |
| 01:02.15 | MentalPower | guess not |
| 01:02.15 | Shadowed | who needs envy when you have stab? |
| 01:02.18 | Shadowed | ~stab Gnarfoz |
| 01:02.19 | purl | ACTION runs at Gnarfoz with an origami Swiss Army knife, and inflicts a nasty paper cut. |
| 01:02.26 | Shadowed | everything is solved with violence |
| 01:02.26 | bleeter | euro: I recall the brain pain when working in europe, different country and Xrate each week :/ |
| 01:02.39 | Gnarfoz | ~whaleparry Shadowed |
| 01:02.40 | purl | ACTION uses a slightly less-huge but eminently more agile killer whale named Edwardo to parry Shadowed's attacks. |
| 01:03.09 | Gnarfoz | different x-rate each week? oO |
| 01:03.31 | bleeter | being paid in a non-EU currency, working different countries, having to work out what stuff's worth |
| 01:03.40 | Gnarfoz | USD <> Euro is the same whereever you go, but "each week" is not about place, but about time |
| 01:03.53 | Gnarfoz | hm |
| 01:03.54 | bleeter | i'm talkin' about when I was there before the euro |
| 01:03.59 | Gnarfoz | ah |
| 01:04.01 | Gnarfoz | ok =) |
| 01:04.03 | bleeter | 'bout 6 months before |
| 01:04.10 | bleeter | they started using it |
| 01:04.20 | bleeter | er s/they/u/ |
| 01:05.02 | bleeter | 'i've got no idea how much this beer is really costing me, so I better drink it fast' |
| 01:05.24 | Gnarfoz | good motto, anyway |
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| 01:11.29 | Shirik | The server is temporarily unable to service your request due to maintenance downtime or capacity problems. Please try again later. |
| 01:11.30 | Shirik | ww |
| 01:11.30 | Shirik | qq |
| 01:15.23 | Thunder_Child | ~qq Shirik |
| 01:15.29 | Thunder_Child | ... |
| 01:15.34 | Thunder_Child | ~qq |
| 01:15.34 | purl | dpkg: touch me there agian and I'll scream! |
| 01:15.51 | Shirik | ?? |
| 01:15.56 | Thunder_Child | no idea |
| 01:16.01 | Thunder_Child | ~seen dpkg |
| 01:16.09 | purl | dpkg is currently on #debian (4h 40m 34s) #debian-bots (4h 40m 34s). Has said a total of 11 messages. Is idling for 50s, last said: 'apic is probably an Advanced Programmable Interrupt Controller (APIC) is a more intricate Programmable Interrupt Controller (PIC). It contains a magnitude more outputs and much more complex priority schemas. One of ... |
| 01:16.20 | Shirik | that's definitely a bot :P |
| 01:16.31 | Thunder_Child | yep |
| 01:16.45 | Thunder_Child | i wonder if they were trying to loop them together |
| 01:17.22 | Shirik | purl, say hi |
| 01:17.23 | purl | hi |
| 01:17.49 | Shirik | lua> purl, say lua> return "Test" |
| 01:17.49 | lua_bot | Shirik: sandbox.lua:286: Compilation failed: [string "purl, say lua> return "Test""]:1: '=' expected near 'lua' |
| 01:17.57 | Shirik | oops |
| 01:18.05 | Shirik | purl, say --> return "Test" |
| 01:18.06 | purl | --> return "Test" |
| 01:18.06 | batbot | purl: > Test |
| 01:18.07 | purl | Test Failed! |
| 01:18.13 | Shirik | heh |
| 01:18.14 | Thunder_Child | heh |
| 01:18.22 | Shirik | Yeah that... could be bad |
| 01:18.23 | Shirik | hey batrick? |
| 01:19.04 | Shirik | iirc cladhaire's bot ignores purl |
| 01:19.10 | cladhaire | yep |
| 01:20.20 | Thunder_Child | clads a hater |
| 01:21.06 | Thunder_Child | heh, to bad we cant get lua_bot and batbot going together |
| 01:21.19 | Thunder_Child | that would be fun |
| 01:21.45 | bleeter | MentalPower: oh well, I apologised for the lart if indeed he's not lurking or not allowed to lurk |
| 01:26.58 | Shirik | /who mage 70 |
| 01:27.11 | Shirik | 12 people found |
| 01:27.13 | Shirik | ?? |
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| 01:29.28 | Antiarc | Shirik: Are you writing dual-bot quines again? |
| 01:29.48 | Shirik | It was merely a test, I would never do something truly evil :) |
| 01:30.03 | Shirik | Best to test it now rather than let some script kiddie find it and flood the channel |
| 01:30.06 | Antiarc | Heh, yeah. |
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| 01:30.15 | Antiarc | Hm |
| 01:30.26 | Antiarc | I should set them to work computing primes or something |
| 01:30.31 | Shirik | heh |
| 01:31.26 | Shirik | man, there's these cats outside meowing |
| 01:31.32 | Shirik | I don't know how it's getting through my door |
| 01:31.37 | Shirik | but they are making the strangest sounds... |
| 01:31.46 | Thunder_Child | because your door isnt soundproof.... |
| 01:31.58 | Shirik | yes it is, I live in a vacuum, sound cannot reach me! |
| 01:32.01 | |Jelly| | Because you've yet to kick their faces? |
| 01:32.10 | Thunder_Child | |Jelly|, i like my idea better |
| 01:34.21 | Shirik | "No, you obviously don't understand what college is about. It's all about getting grades as easily as possible, not about learning. Who wants to learn? Who wants to think? We just want to read a manual, follow a set of instructions, have everything work exactly as documented, and get an "A". Squeak just does not fit in this model. This class should be using a real, commercially important, language like Visual Basic.No, you obviously don' |
| 01:34.23 | Shirik | er |
| 01:34.28 | Shirik | that is a lot longer than I thought it was |
| 01:34.40 | Shirik | well the important sentence that made me go o__O: "This class should be using a real, commercially important, language like Visual Basic." |
| 01:34.47 | Shirik | http://coweb.cc.gatech.edu/cs2340/1269 |
| 01:35.43 | testleK|away | ok i have got to post this yall got to see this: http://tinyurl.com/28yfmh |
| 01:35.58 | kaiden | anyone know the /console commands to change screenshot type and quality off the top of their heads? |
| 01:36.13 | Shirik | yeah |
| 01:36.25 | Shirik | screenshotFormat and screenshotQuality |
| 01:36.38 | Shirik | fyi, you can enable console in WoW and then just open console and type "screen" and hit tab |
| 01:36.42 | Shirik | that's what I did to find those vars |
| 01:36.53 | kaiden | how? |
| 01:37.08 | Shirik | If you execute WoW with command line argument -console |
| 01:37.14 | kaiden | oh nice :P |
| 01:37.32 | Shirik | the console opens with ` by default, or you can call SetConsoleKey() |
| 01:37.50 | kaiden | odd... it still saves the files as .jpg |
| 01:38.18 | laindir | yeah, they made that the default a few patches back |
| 01:38.33 | kaiden | laindir, i just switched it to png ;) |
| 01:38.40 | kaiden | so.... saving it as a .jpg shouldn't happen |
| 01:38.41 | Shirik | I think only tga and jpeg are supported |
| 01:38.45 | kaiden | ugh? |
| 01:38.48 | MentalPower | kaiden: PNG is not supported on Windows |
| 01:38.51 | Shirik | not sure though |
| 01:38.52 | kaiden | i take it, it only supports png on mac |
| 01:38.53 | MentalPower | only on Mac |
| 01:38.53 | kaiden | so lame |
| 01:39.10 | MentalPower | Only JPG and TGA are supported on Windows |
| 01:40.01 | MentalPower | dunno why tho, libpng works just as well on windows |
| 01:40.07 | MentalPower | (assuming they're using libpng) |
| 01:40.17 | kaiden | probably due to laziness ;) |
| 01:40.22 | Thunder_Child | png is supported |
| 01:40.27 | Thunder_Child | at least on vista |
| 01:40.27 | Shirik | s/just as well on/as well as can be expected of/ |
| 01:40.40 | MentalPower | Thunder_Child: oh? |
| 01:40.44 | kaiden | ah... well.. not touching that with a 10 foot pole |
| 01:40.47 | Thunder_Child | wait.. |
| 01:40.52 | Thunder_Child | viewing? |
| 01:40.59 | Shirik | There's nothing absolutely horrible about vista |
| 01:41.00 | MentalPower | no, saving from WoW |
| 01:41.01 | Thunder_Child | i missed the begining of this conversation |
| 01:41.03 | Shirik | I don't know what everyone's problem with it is |
| 01:41.09 | Thunder_Child | ah |
| 01:41.16 | kaiden | Shirik, uhm... i work at microsoft off and on |
| 01:41.16 | Shirik | Vista's UAC saved my ass the other day too |
| 01:41.21 | kaiden | i'll take my opinion about it over anyone elses |
| 01:41.26 | testleK|away | lol |
| 01:41.30 | kaiden | ;) |
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| 01:41.37 | kaiden | and until SP1 is final.. it'll stay that way |
| 01:41.45 | Shirik | I have learned not to value microsoft's opinions, even on their own products :P |
| 01:41.52 | Thunder_Child | it will prolly stay that way after |
| 01:42.00 | testleK | I'll stick with linux and the occasional boot to windows xp if needed |
| 01:42.01 | MentalPower | I like the XP SP3 vs. Vista SP1 comparisons |
| 01:42.01 | Thunder_Child | people unwilling to be open dont usually change |
| 01:42.22 | Shirik | kaiden: Vista isn't the problem. It's the software developers that are the problem. |
| 01:42.34 | kaiden | no.. vista is the problem when Explorer can crash on a fresh install |
| 01:42.41 | Shirik | And until they stop being stupid (which they won't), people will complain about Vista unless they know what they're doing |
| 01:42.43 | kaiden | after running the os in a test bed for a few weeks |
| 01:42.48 | Thunder_Child | nothing is perfect |
| 01:42.54 | Shirik | yes |
| 01:42.59 | Shirik | my hello world program was perfect tyvm |
| 01:42.59 | testleK | re: vista if you didnt catch that link I posted a few mins ago watch this vid: http://tinyurl.com/28yfmh |
| 01:43.17 | kaiden | when SP1 is released my reservations about vista will change |
| 01:43.23 | kaiden | but until then.. there's just too many problems |
| 01:43.31 | Shirik | unlikely. |
| 01:43.41 | kaiden | unlikely? |
| 01:43.46 | Shirik | unlikely |
| 01:43.51 | Thunder_Child | Shirik, maybe in a very very very limited scope |
| 01:43.57 | kaiden | well.. if you are going to say something... at least back it up |
| 01:43.57 | kaiden | :) |
| 01:44.01 | kaiden | why is that unlikely? |
| 01:44.06 | Thunder_Child | hello world is not perfect everywhere |
| 01:44.07 | Shirik | for the reason Thunder_Child has already pointed out |
| 01:44.14 | kaiden | i said me.. |
| 01:44.16 | kaiden | that means myself.. |
| 01:44.21 | kaiden | not anyone else just me :) |
| 01:44.41 | Shirik | 14(2011:4111:5214) 14(1115Thunder_Child14) people unwilling to be open dont usually change |
| 01:44.45 | kaiden | SP1 fixes over 500 known bugs, quite a few of which halt my usage of it so i'm always willing to try it |
| 01:44.56 | Thunder_Child | doesnt sound like it kaiden |
| 01:45.01 | Shirik | and of course, these will be the last bugs ever |
| 01:45.06 | Shirik | there won't be 500 bugs in the SP1 version |
| 01:45.29 | kaiden | it's sad that one would have to repaste his own words.. and bold certain parts |
| 01:45.35 | kaiden | "i'm always willing to try it" |
| 01:45.41 | kaiden | of course there will be new bugs added... |
| 01:45.45 | kaiden | nothing is perfect |
| 01:46.01 | Shirik | then wouldn't the argument "SP2 fixes over 500 known bugs" be valid in a year or so? |
| 01:46.36 | ScytheBlade1 | Wow |
| 01:46.39 | kaiden | if you have absolutely no basis for arguing.. dont pull stuff out of your butt |
| 01:46.45 | ScytheBlade1 | I take a 1.5 month break from raiding |
| 01:46.54 | kaiden | there will always be bugs in every os |
| 01:46.55 | ScytheBlade1 | And then walk back into a raid and pull #1 DPS, no AoE involved |
| 01:47.02 | Shirik | but I do. My argument is that your argument is the same one that has been used for the last 10 years |
| 01:47.06 | Shirik | by people whom refuse to upgrade |
| 01:47.08 | ScytheBlade1 | The. CRAP. Is wrong with this guild. |
| 01:47.24 | Shirik | ScytheBlade1: Obviously you hack. |
| 01:47.33 | kaiden | Shirik, see where you have issues is with thinking you have pegged me down to a group |
| 01:47.34 | ScytheBlade1 | Apparently! |
| 01:47.35 | Mike-N-Go | ScytheBlade1: Please expand on your view? |
| 01:47.37 | kaiden | when you know nothing about me obviously |
| 01:47.50 | ScytheBlade1 | Mike-N-Go: my guild sucks :/ |
| 01:48.00 | kaiden | I used Vista and kept using it until the crashes got so frequent that i just wanted to get away from them |
| 01:48.13 | Shirik | I know that you are making the same claims as I have heard time and time again, so yes, I do peg you down to that group |
| 01:48.15 | Mike-N-Go | ScytheBlade1: LF new guild. |
| 01:48.22 | kaiden | i imagine they will release patch after patch fixing bug after bug here and there that will make it notcompletely visible that it's broken in some ways |
| 01:48.34 | kaiden | at which point i will definitely switch back to it :) because i want directx10 |
| 01:48.47 | kaiden | but until i can run vista for a whole 6 hours without explorer crashing then i'll wait |
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| 01:49.18 | ScytheBlade1 | Mike-N-Go: I agree |
| 01:49.28 | reqol | why hallo thar |
| 01:49.31 | Mike-N-Go | What class are you? |
| 01:49.33 | |Jelly| | I use Vista without explorer crashing. Maybe it's user error? *ignores the flames because I really don't care* |
| 01:49.40 | Thunder_Child | kaiden...really? 6 hours? |
| 01:49.44 | ScytheBlade1 | Mage |
| 01:49.58 | kaiden | |Jelly|, yes because computers act the exact same way for every person on the planet :) |
| 01:50.02 | kaiden | you are brilliant |
| 01:50.04 | kaiden | i should write that down |
| 01:50.22 | kaiden | maybe then when some bogus bug pops up i can say but that can't be.. it works fine on my machine! |
| 01:50.41 | Mike-N-Go | Did your guild make any progress in the last monts? |
| 01:51.11 | ScytheBlade1 | Killed Al'ar |
| 01:51.28 | reqol | I almost feel bad killing Al'ar because of how beautiful she is :o |
| 01:51.29 | kaiden | ScytheBlade1, woot! grats |
| 01:51.33 | ScytheBlade1 | tyty |
| 01:51.34 | Cidan | I too had no issues with Vista |
| 01:51.43 | Cidan | until I switched to Ubuntu, anyways. |
| 01:52.00 | kaiden | and i imagine there's 100,000 other users who have not had problems with vista |
| 01:52.01 | Shirik | in all honesty |
| 01:52.07 | Shirik | Computers DO act exactly the same way |
| 01:52.16 | kaiden | but for that 100,000 users that have not had problems i imagine there are 10,000 or more that have had problems |
| 01:52.22 | Shirik | they all have transistors, they all look for a voltage applied above 0.6V |
| 01:52.41 | Cidan | er, no, that's like saying all humans run the same because we have red blood cells |
| 01:52.47 | Cidan | etc, etc. |
| 01:53.00 | kaiden | Cidan, thank you :) |
| 01:53.02 | Shirik | if two computers are given the exact same instructions they will do exactly the same thing |
| 01:53.12 | Shirik | they do not think on their own... yet. |
| 01:53.34 | Shirik | obviously, however, your use of Vista is different, you are running different drivers, etc. |
| 01:53.40 | Shirik | But this is not a difference in the way the computer works |
| 01:53.41 | Cidan | Er, no they don't. The end result maybe the same, but the method in which the computer does it can, and IS, different, ;P |
| 01:53.42 | kaiden | Shirik, ok here's an example for you then... recently while assisting cncfanatics on debugging flexbar2.. we both had a clean Interface Addons folder |
| 01:53.50 | kaiden | we downloaded flexbar2 and cycircled |
| 01:53.52 | kaiden | his worked.. |
| 01:53.53 | kaiden | mine didn't |
| 01:54.10 | Shirik | then you did something or had something different |
| 01:54.19 | kaiden | yes.. computers run the same no matter what just because they were given the same instructions, that's why he had to add a check in there to make sure the libraries were loading in the right order |
| 01:54.39 | Shirik | they will always load in the same order in the same environment |
| 01:54.39 | kaiden | no.. wow chose to load the libraries incorrectly on my system or out of a specific order causing cyCircled to break |
| 01:54.45 | Cidan | However outside of Shirik and his lame argument, at the OS level everything, sans driver issues, work the same. :P |
| 01:54.49 | Shirik | because of a different addon |
| 01:54.57 | Gnarfoz | my sound card does not work under Vista. reason enough not to use it, for me. also, explorer dies (or kills the graphics driver) with Aero enabled |
| 01:54.57 | kaiden | no.. we had the same addon :) |
| 01:54.58 | Shirik | WoW will always load the same libraries in the same order |
| 01:55.02 | kaiden | obviously you dont read very well |
| 01:55.02 | kaiden | lol |
| 01:55.05 | Shirik | no, you had different addons |
| 01:55.09 | Shirik | I'm not talking about that one addon |
| 01:55.13 | Shirik | I'm talking about others |
| 01:55.17 | Cidan | kaiden: I agree with Shirik, that is a user issue. |
| 01:55.26 | kaiden | Cidan, we had the EXACT same folders |
| 01:55.32 | Shirik | Computers do not lie |
| 01:55.38 | kaiden | wow chose to load my highlight library after cyCircled which broke it |
| 01:55.40 | Shirik | nor do they invent no math |
| 01:55.40 | Cidan | Then you had something else misconfigured, WoW, something. |
| 01:55.41 | kaiden | he doesn't know why |
| 01:55.42 | kaiden | i dont know why |
| 01:55.46 | kaiden | but we had the same exact folder |
| 01:55.46 | Shirik | they do nothing more |
| 01:55.55 | Shirik | they do exactly what they are told, time and time again |
| 01:56.13 | Gnarfoz | obviously, if WoW was told to RANDOMIZE the load order, then... yeah, it would be kind of random :p |
| 01:56.23 | kaiden | Shirik, the only basis for your arguement this entire time has been trying to say vista is perfect :) when it's not |
| 01:56.37 | Cidan | kaiden: YOUR issue has *nothing* to do with Vista |
| 01:56.38 | Shirik | No, my only basis for this argument is that you made the incorrect claim that computers act differently |
| 01:56.44 | kaiden | vista has problems... i imagine they will be fixed in time.. no the problems aren't the same on everyones computers contrary to your beliefs |
| 01:56.46 | Shirik | software may act differently, computers always act the same |
| 01:56.54 | Cidan | you're all morons |
| 01:57.02 | kaiden | cidan, you should slam it a few more times since you think this discussion was even about addons in the first place |
| 01:57.07 | kaiden | go back up a tad more and read |
| 01:57.09 | Gnarfoz | yeh yeah |
| 01:57.14 | Gnarfoz | was just about to point that out ^^ |
| 01:57.45 | kaiden | shirik, you are generalizing computers far too much.. each piece of hardware that's different will react differently |
| 01:57.52 | Thunder_Child | i think i will stick with my origional assumption. Humans are idiots. |
| 01:58.05 | Shirik | no they will not |
| 01:58.10 | Shirik | They have a standard on exactly how they will operate |
| 01:58.13 | Cidan | kaiden: Hardware doesn't "react", you're using the wrong term. |
| 01:58.14 | Shirik | the DRIVERS will act differently |
| 01:58.31 | kaiden | CIdan, in the terms of how the os interacts with it.. it does.. |
| 01:58.41 | Cidan | No, no it really doesn't. |
| 01:58.41 | kaiden | especially if you dont have drivers written by the developers for that hardware |
| 01:58.45 | ScytheBlade1 | Okay, now that Hydross is dead |
| 01:58.48 | ScytheBlade1 | What's happening here? |
| 01:58.51 | kaiden | and are having to use vista's |
| 01:58.58 | Thunder_Child | ScytheBlade1, what else |
| 01:59.03 | kaiden | hence the entire conversation about vista not being perfect :) |
| 01:59.12 | Shirik | Though I never said it was perfect |
| 01:59.28 | malreth | ScytheBlade1: one person is flexing his e-peen and declaring it larger than the other's e-peen |
| 01:59.50 | Gnarfoz | whyever you'd waste money on a retail version ;D |
| 01:59.55 | Cidan | lol |
| 02:00.00 | malreth | imma gonna cook some dumplings |
| 02:00.04 | Cidan | mm |
| 02:00.11 | ScytheBlade1 | Licensing. I don't like the idea of being restrictred to a motherboard. |
| 02:00.12 | Cidan | I think I'll make dumplings this weekend |
| 02:00.12 | malreth | want some? |
| 02:00.17 | Gnarfoz | what? |
| 02:00.20 | Cidan | Nah, I make my own |
| 02:00.24 | Cidan | with my girlfriend |
| 02:00.31 | Gnarfoz | you're not restricted to anything by other versions oO |
| 02:00.31 | malreth | okeh |
| 02:00.47 | ScytheBlade1 | OEM is bound to the motherboard |
| 02:00.49 | ScytheBlade1 | Retail is not |
| 02:00.55 | Cidan | we buy pork, make the dough, etc |
| 02:01.04 | Gnarfoz | OEM is bound to nothing |
| 02:01.05 | Shirik | now, kaiden, tell me this. If it's your hardware/drivers in question |
| 02:01.10 | Shirik | Then why on earth is it Vista's fault? |
| 02:01.26 | Gnarfoz | Shirik: explorer is not a driver |
| 02:01.29 | Cidan | Gnarfoz: No, OEM's are in fact bound to a particular model when Vista comes around. |
| 02:01.37 | Shirik | he implied that it was his hardware causing the issue |
| 02:01.43 | ScytheBlade1 | Technically with XP too. |
| 02:01.45 | Shirik | by stating that the hardware is what is different |
| 02:01.53 | Gnarfoz | Cidan: ? I sell the damn DVDs, they contain the same stuff as the retail ones, bit by bit |
| 02:01.57 | malreth | ScytheBlade1: UT Austin employees get Vista Ultimate for $35 |
| 02:02.03 | ScytheBlade1 | malreth: </3 |
| 02:02.11 | Cidan | Gnarfoz: You sell independent OEM issued out of a small store |
| 02:02.16 | Cidan | Gnarfoz: I used to do that too. |
| 02:02.25 | Cidan | Gnarfoz: I'm talking about OEM via Dell, etc. |
| 02:02.43 | Gnarfoz | Cidan: you're talking about 'buying a computer with vista pre-installed' |
| 02:02.52 | Gnarfoz | that's not 'buying Vista OEM' -.- |
| 02:02.54 | ScytheBlade1 | I got to learn the differences because I had to buy licenses for a business. |
| 02:03.08 | Cidan | Gnarfoz: Indeed, and you _legally_ can't sell an OEM copy of Vista without selling hardware with it. |
| 02:03.15 | Gnarfoz | I can, indeed |
| 02:03.20 | ScytheBlade1 | If you buy an OEM copy of XP/Vista, and the "computer" dies (defined by MS as the motherboard), then you need a license. |
| 02:03.22 | batrick | uh that's not true |
| 02:03.23 | Cidan | Then you are breaking the microsoft agreement. |
| 02:03.23 | ScytheBlade1 | Emphasis legally |
| 02:03.26 | Thunder_Child | ScytheBlade1, and why 315? |
| 02:03.34 | ScytheBlade1 | Thunder_Child: that's retail pricing on newegg.com |
| 02:03.36 | Cidan | *girlfriend's parents own 2 large computer stores* |
| 02:03.37 | Shirik | hey batrick, did you see my message? |
| 02:03.42 | Gnarfoz | legally, I can do whatever I want, because OEM software can't be bound to hardware in Germany, YAY! :D |
| 02:03.44 | batrick | !g vista OEM site:newegg.com |
| 02:03.45 | batbot | batrick: Newegg.com - Microsoft Windows Vista 32-Bit Home Premium for ... <http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16832116202> |
| 02:03.47 | batrick | Shirik: no |
| 02:03.47 | Cidan | Oh |
| 02:03.48 | Thunder_Child | ScytheBlade1, http://www.viosoftware.com/Windows+Vista/Windows+Vista+Ultimate.html |
| 02:03.51 | Cidan | I assumed you were in the US |
| 02:03.53 | Cidan | My mistake |
| 02:03.56 | Shirik | purl, say --> return "test" |
| 02:03.56 | purl | --> return "test" |
| 02:03.57 | batbot | purl: > test |
| 02:03.58 | purl | Oh, no! There's a test and I haven't studied! |
| 02:04.02 | Gnarfoz | yeah, laws suck |
| 02:04.05 | Shirik | I recommend fixing that before it becomes exploited :) |
| 02:04.41 | ScytheBlade1 | Thunder_Child: Windows is pretty much the one thing I'm going to buy from a vendor that I personally know |
| 02:04.55 | Thunder_Child | ScytheBlade1, i bought from them |
| 02:05.00 | batrick | How is that exploitable shirik? |
| 02:05.02 | Thunder_Child | worked fine for me |
| 02:05.13 | ScytheBlade1 | MS employees have bought XP licenses that weren't legit before, unknowingly. |
| 02:05.18 | Gnarfoz | anyway, watching Bourne Identity now, because our server (using work dsl via WLAN at the moment) is using all the upstream bandwidth for a backup right now |
| 02:05.20 | ScytheBlade1 | I'm not going to take my chances :) |
| 02:05.27 | ScytheBlade1 | (And I don't mean interns) |
| 02:05.28 | Shirik | send them into a loop |
| 02:05.33 | Cidan | Gnarfoz: Good movie |
| 02:05.44 | Gnarfoz | I heard ^^ |
| 02:05.56 | Thunder_Child | ScytheBlade1, your money |
| 02:06.02 | batrick | Shirik: batbot will quit replying after the fifth message anyway |
| 02:06.08 | Shirik | oh? |
| 02:06.09 | ScytheBlade1 | Thunder_Child: this is true :) |
| 02:06.16 | batrick | yes |
| 02:06.21 | malreth | purl, say --> return "whaleslap batrick" |
| 02:06.22 | purl | --> return "whaleslap batrick" |
| 02:06.23 | batbot | purl: > whaleslap batrick |
| 02:06.23 | purl | ACTION beats batrick upside and over the head with a freakishly huge killer whale named Hugh |
| 02:06.27 | ScytheBlade1 | I mean, thanks by all means for finding a lower priced product |
| 02:06.39 | Thunder_Child | ScytheBlade1, thats who i bought my vista from |
| 02:06.46 | Thunder_Child | ScytheBlade1, was just another option |
| 02:07.38 | Thunder_Child | does purl ignore anything it doesnt understand? |
| 02:07.47 | ScytheBlade1 | No |
| 02:07.48 | batrick | purl: say "hi" |
| 02:07.49 | purl | "hi" |
| 02:07.49 | ScytheBlade1 | It learns as you type |
| 02:08.08 | Thunder_Child | i wonder why it ignores ">" then |
| 02:08.12 | batrick | --> x = "say hi" |
| 02:08.24 | Thunder_Child | ~>blorb |
| 02:08.31 | batrick | purl: say --> return x |
| 02:08.32 | purl | --> return x |
| 02:08.32 | batbot | purl: > say hi |
| 02:08.33 | purl | hi |
| 02:08.34 | Thunder_Child | ~> blorb |
| 02:08.38 | Thunder_Child | ~ > blorb |
| 02:08.39 | batrick | shit |
| 02:08.40 | Thunder_Child | odd |
| 02:08.47 | malreth | > anything? |
| 02:08.49 | batrick | --> x = "--> return x" |
| 02:08.52 | batrick | purl: say --> return x |
| 02:08.53 | purl | --> return x |
| 02:08.54 | batbot | purl: > --> return x |
| 02:09.00 | Thunder_Child | well purl seems to return with it |
| 02:09.00 | Shirik | ~blorb |
| 02:09.01 | purl | ACTION blorbs |
| 02:09.01 | batrick | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:09.07 | batrick | --> x = "say --> return x" |
| 02:09.09 | batrick | purl: say --> return x |
| 02:09.10 | purl | --> return x |
| 02:09.15 | batrick | o well |
| 02:09.25 | batrick | purl: say --> print(x) |
| 02:09.26 | purl | --> print(x) |
| 02:09.27 | batbot | purl: say --> return x |
| 02:09.27 | purl | --> return x |
| 02:09.34 | Mr_Rabies2 | oh no |
| 02:09.41 | Thunder_Child | purl did it at this point "(18:06:38) (batbot) purl: > whaleslap batrick" |
| 02:09.56 | batrick | --> x = "say --> print(x)" |
| 02:10.03 | batrick | purl: say --> print(x) |
| 02:10.03 | purl | --> print(x) |
| 02:10.15 | Shirik | Thunder_Child: If you do a "purl:" it ignores that > afterwards for some reason |
| 02:10.19 | Shirik | so you can go ahead and do it that way |
| 02:10.21 | Thunder_Child | odd |
| 02:10.30 | Thunder_Child | i wonder why |
| 02:10.47 | Shirik | purl, blorbette is <reply> --> return "blorbette" |
| 02:10.47 | purl | okay, Shirik |
| 02:10.51 | Shirik | and this could be bad |
| 02:10.53 | Shirik | so I won't do it |
| 02:11.14 | batrick | go ahead i told you it's fine |
| 02:11.26 | Thunder_Child | wouldnt that be blorbet? |
| 02:11.40 | batrick | maniacally(sp?) |
| 02:11.41 | batbot | batrick, maniacally is correct. |
| 02:11.48 | malreth | batbot: famous last words... |
| 02:11.53 | batrick | tee hee |
| 02:11.58 | batrick | ~blorbette |
| 02:11.58 | purl | --> return "blorbette" |
| 02:12.08 | *** join/#wowi-lounge Wobin (n=wobin@124-168-143-168.dyn.iinet.net.au) |
| 02:12.22 | |Jelly| | ~facepalm |
| 02:12.23 | purl | ACTION facepalms at the situation |
| 02:12.24 | Thunder_Child | need the ~ |
| 02:12.36 | Thunder_Child | nvm |
| 02:12.45 | Thunder_Child | i fial |
| 02:12.50 | batrick | purl: say --> print(x) |
| 02:12.50 | purl | --> print(x) |
| 02:12.51 | Thunder_Child | ...fail... |
| 02:12.57 | Shirik | purl, say --> return "test" |
| 02:12.58 | purl | --> return "test" |
| 02:12.59 | batbot | purl: > test |
| 02:12.59 | purl | Test Passed! |
| 02:12.59 | batrick | it's ignoring batbot? :( |
| 02:13.09 | Shirik | I dunno, it must be something special in purl's coding |
| 02:13.13 | Shirik | to stop this from happening |
| 02:13.16 | batrick | avoid loops |
| 02:13.24 | malreth | Shirik: was thinking just that |
| 02:13.31 | batrick | ya well, batbot will ignore after 5 messages so it doesn't really matter :) |
| 02:13.51 | Shirik | oh I know! |
| 02:13.54 | Xinhuan | o_O |
| 02:13.59 | Shirik | When you do the same thing twice in a row |
| 02:14.01 | Shirik | it sends it in a PM |
| 02:14.16 | batrick | hahaha |
| 02:14.25 | batrick | so maybe purl and batbot are having an epic duel in the background |
| 02:14.30 | Xuerian | lol |
| 02:14.30 | Shirik | yes :P |
| 02:14.42 | Shirik | actually |
| 02:14.46 | Xinhuan | haha got owned by programming logic ;p |
| 02:14.50 | Shirik | no, purl responds with "But somebody said that xx seconds ago" |
| 02:14.55 | Shirik | so it should stop there |
| 02:15.05 | Xuerian | Well that's disappointing. |
| 02:15.09 | Thunder_Child | put a 'wait' in the msg? |
| 02:15.11 | Xuerian | I was hoping for some bot-on-bot |
| 02:15.29 | batrick | o |
| 02:15.37 | *** join/#wowi-lounge Tinyboom (n=u@91.84-49-167.nextgentel.com) |
| 02:15.44 | batrick | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:15.49 | batrick | lame answer : / |
| 02:16.21 | Shirik | heh |
| 02:16.30 | Xinhuan | [12/6 09:56:53] <+Shirik> WoW will always load the same libraries in the same order |
| 02:16.34 | Xinhuan | not true Shirik ;p |
| 02:16.41 | Shirik | prove it |
| 02:16.50 | Shirik | because I have my proof |
| 02:17.05 | Thunder_Child | nsfw (i guess) http://maps.google.com/maps?q=N+Cedar+St+%26+Shaft+Rd,+Hazleton,+Luzerne,+Pennsylvania+18201,+United+States&ie=UTF8&oe=utf-8&client=firefox-a&ll=40.958021,-75.969853&spn=0.001051,0.001929&t=h&z=19&iwloc=addr&om=1 |
| 02:17.06 | batrick | hmmm |
| 02:17.08 | Xinhuan | are you referring to 2 different computers? |
| 02:17.18 | Shirik | sure |
| 02:17.22 | Shirik | but with the exact same addon setup, etc. |
| 02:17.24 | Xinhuan | you are wrong then |
| 02:17.33 | batrick | --> x = "--> print(y)" y = "--> print(x)" |
| 02:17.38 | batrick | purl: say --> print(x) |
| 02:17.38 | purl | --> print(x) |
| 02:17.39 | Shirik | again, prove me wrong |
| 02:17.39 | batbot | purl: --> print(y) |
| 02:17.45 | Xinhuan | wow loads addons in natural disk order if wow is on FAT32 |
| 02:17.51 | batrick | --> x = "say --> print(y)" y = "say --> print(x)" |
| 02:18.01 | batrick | purl: say --> print(x) |
| 02:18.02 | purl | --> print(x) |
| 02:18.03 | batbot | purl: say --> print(y) |
| 02:18.03 | purl | --> print(y) |
| 02:18.05 | Xinhuan | wow loads addons in alphapbetical order in NTFS system |
| 02:18.10 | *** part/#wowi-lounge testleK (n=testleK@71.80.214.21) |
| 02:18.12 | batrick | FUCK U PURL |
| 02:18.18 | Thunder_Child | heh |
| 02:18.28 | batrick | ~lart purl |
| 02:18.28 | purl | whips out a shotgun, trudges over to batrick, and goes postal |
| 02:18.30 | Xinhuan | which means defragging your disk on FAT32 will change the order wow loads addons in |
| 02:18.35 | Thunder_Child | need code to rotate through the alphabet |
| 02:18.44 | Shirik | who uses FAT anymore anyway, but in any case, both systems were NTFS. Actually I was unaware of this part of it, that's kinda strange. |
| 02:18.57 | Xinhuan | well, i just stated this so you are aware |
| 02:19.08 | Xinhuan | i used to rnu wow on a fat32 disk |
| 02:19.18 | Shirik | yup, something I didn't know, as all of my tests were on NTFS |
| 02:19.30 | Xinhuan | and the only way to force an addon to load first is to defrag it by alphabetical order |
| 02:19.55 | Shirik | or opt-dep like crazY :P |
| 02:19.57 | Xinhuan | some ppl claim addons load in "date order" but its really natural disk order as returned by FAT32 |
| 02:21.20 | Shirik | I wonder why this inconsistency |
| 02:21.33 | Xinhuan | file storage method |
| 02:21.44 | Xinhuan | FAT32 uses an table index system |
| 02:21.46 | |Jelly| | Because Vista is obviously a work of the NTFS devil. |
| 02:21.51 | Shirik | but why not just do it alphabetical |
| 02:21.53 | Xinhuan | NTFS uses a binary tree |
| 02:21.57 | Xinhuan | to store files |
| 02:22.05 | Xinhuan | so it traverses in alpha order |
| 02:22.15 | ScytheBlade1 | If you're using FAT32, you shouldn't be. Fix yourself. |
| 02:22.21 | Shirik | oh, it's random luck |
| 02:22.23 | ScytheBlade1 | I'm glad we had this conversation. |
| 02:22.25 | ScytheBlade1 | :) |
| 02:22.28 | Shirik | from FindNextFile() |
| 02:22.28 | Shirik | got it |
| 02:23.23 | malreth | we could probably ask slouken to pretty please ensure an alphabetical load order on addons |
| 02:23.33 | Shirik | that would be difficult |
| 02:23.38 | Shirik | well, not entirely difficult, but annoying |
| 02:23.47 | Shirik | calling FindNextFile() is much nicer |
| 02:23.50 | Shirik | let Windows do the work |
| 02:24.11 | Xinhuan | lots of people do use old disks to install wow on |
| 02:24.12 | malreth | sometimes, doing the right thing isn't easy |
| 02:24.18 | Xinhuan | that are still on fat32 |
| 02:24.27 | Xinhuan | or even on removable media |
| 02:24.34 | malreth | and it wouldn't be that much harder, really |
| 02:24.39 | batrick | victory |
| 02:24.42 | batrick | purl: say --> print(x[1]) |
| 02:24.43 | purl | --> print(x[1]) |
| 02:24.43 | Shirik | yes but the argument is valid that it's a waste of time to do that |
| 02:24.48 | batrick | whoops |
| 02:24.52 | Shirik | there shouldn't really be a reason to need to load in alpha order |
| 02:25.07 | batrick | impatiently |
| 02:25.18 | Xinhuan | alpha order is just a by-product of the file system, it has nothing to do with WoW |
| 02:25.26 | malreth | shirik: correct. the user should be able to set a specific load order |
| 02:25.38 | malreth | by drag-dropping addons around in the list |
| 02:25.39 | Shirik | Xinhuan: Yeah |
| 02:25.39 | Xinhuan | they never intended addons to load in a specific order |
| 02:25.41 | batrick | purl: say --> print(x[1]) |
| 02:25.41 | purl | --> print(x[1]) |
| 02:25.42 | batbot | purl: say --> print(y[2]) |
| 02:25.43 | purl | --> print(y[2]) |
| 02:25.43 | batbot | purl: say --> print(x[3]) |
| 02:25.44 | purl | --> print(x[3]) |
| 02:25.45 | batbot | purl: say --> print(y[4]) |
| 02:25.45 | purl | --> print(y[4]) |
| 02:25.46 | batbot | purl: say --> print(x[5]) |
| 02:25.47 | purl | --> print(x[5]) |
| 02:25.47 | batbot | purl: say --> print(y[6]) |
| 02:25.48 | purl | --> print(y[6]) |
| 02:25.48 | Shirik | It just happens to be that FindNextFile() operates that way |
| 02:25.58 | batrick | Shirik: see? :) |
| 02:26.37 | Xinhuan | so how long after does batbot unignore purl? |
| 02:26.42 | batrick | 45 seconds |
| 02:27.03 | Xinhuan | can't you just set batbot to specifically ignore purl? |
| 02:27.05 | Shirik | so no loops between cladbot and batbot? |
| 02:27.14 | batrick | no loops period :P |
| 02:27.31 | malreth | what is batbot written in, btw? |
| 02:27.34 | batrick | lua |
| 02:27.56 | malreth | did you use a framework for irc communication or did you write it yourself? |
| 02:28.04 | batrick | wrote it myself |
| 02:28.08 | Xinhuan | i only know the addon loading order thing on fat32 because i use an old 20 gb disk partitioned to 10/10 to install wow on ;p |
| 02:28.33 | batrick | though I think finding a C framework and embedding Lua in it would have been fun |
| 02:29.06 | Antiarc | So, did you guys hear about the constipated mathematician? |
| 02:29.18 | dylanm | This had better be good. |
| 02:29.24 | Antiarc | Yeah, he worked it out with a pencil. |
| 02:29.37 | malreth | :O |
| 02:29.48 | Xinhuan | ~facepalm |
| 02:29.48 | purl | ACTION facepalms at the situation |
| 02:30.17 | Xinhuan | ~wiki facepalm |
| 02:30.25 | Xinhuan | i wonder who "coined" it |
| 02:31.08 | Xinhuan | meh its a stub article |
| 02:31.35 | batrick | i think who coined the word is less interesting than who did it first |
| 02:32.08 | batrick | first guy who did it was probably watching his friend make a car with square wheels |
| 02:32.13 | batrick | mhmmm |
| 02:32.33 | batrick | flintstones reference >.> |
| 02:32.59 | malreth | So, a mathematician, an engineer, and a computer scientist are on a road trip together when suddenly the car stalls and comes to a stop. The mathematician says, "Give me a bit and I'll have worked out why this car stalled." |
| 02:33.02 | malreth | The engineer said, "Hell, I'll just pop the hood and get this thing fixed up right now." |
| 02:33.09 | malreth | The computer scientist said, "Before we do any of that, we should all get out, walk around the car, and get back in and see if the car stalls again." |
| 02:33.33 | batrick | that was kinda lame |
| 02:33.39 | malreth | NO U |
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| 02:33.40 | batrick | ~larg malreth |
| 02:33.46 | batrick | o i fail :( |
| 02:33.50 | malreth | ~fail batrick |
| 02:33.50 | purl | batrick: Fail. |
| 02:33.51 | batrick | batbot: is it true? |
| 02:33.52 | batbot | batrick, Without a doubt. |
| 02:33.54 | batrick | QQ |
| 02:33.59 | Antiarc | How many mathematicians does it take to change a lightbulb? |
| 02:34.16 | Antiarc | One. He gives the bulb to three blondes, thereby reducing the problem to a previously told joke. |
| 02:34.17 | mikma | Antiarc: i can't count :( |
| 02:34.19 | |Jelly| | .999~? |
| 02:34.36 | batrick | learn to make an overbar in irc jelly jeeze |
| 02:34.52 | |Jelly| | LEARN TO STFU! /cry |
| 02:35.56 | batrick | stfu(sp?) |
| 02:35.56 | batbot | batrick, Stu. |
| 02:36.04 | batrick | wonder what Stu is |
| 02:39.04 | Kaso | howcome at UNIT_AURA UnitBuff works but GetPlayerBuffName does not |
| 02:39.31 | batrick | it seems some things aren't updated promptly kaso |
| 02:39.48 | batrick | i had a similar problem with trying to use UNIT_AURA to monitor when a player mounts/dismounts |
| 02:40.00 | batrick | IsMounted() never worked well with that event |
| 02:40.21 | Kaso | is there another event i can wait for when i can be sure my buffs are updated properly |
| 02:40.35 | batrick | don't think so |
| 02:40.48 | Kaso | cos i seem to be getting wierd differences when trying to use UnitBuff and GetPlayerBuffTimeLeft |
| 02:40.51 | batrick | i tried looking for one, even used registerAllEvents() |
| 02:41.02 | batrick | coulnd't see anything reliable that came after UNIT_AURA |
| 02:41.25 | Kaso | UnitBuff("player",i) and GetPlayerBuffTimeLeft(GetPlayerBuff(i,"HELPFUL")) dont seem to match properly |
| 02:45.45 | Kaso | UnitBuff returns timeLeft but the wiki states that it only applies for self casted buffs, however does it also apply for third party casted buffs on you (that you could see the time left of otherwise) |
| 02:47.22 | Kaso | Apparently not >.< |
| 02:58.39 | Kaso | http://pastebin.com/m790627e9 |
| 02:58.45 | Kaso | that code, outputs this; |
| 02:58.45 | Kaso | 1 = Buff1 = buff1Time |
| 02:58.46 | Kaso | 2 = Buff2 = buff3Time |
| 02:58.46 | Kaso | 3 = Buff3 = buff4Time |
| 02:58.46 | Kaso | 4 = Buff4 = buff2Time |
| 02:58.52 | Kaso | What is going on >.< |
| 03:00.38 | batrick | multithreading is fun iniit? |
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| 03:49.15 | Thunder_Child | anyone remember the name of this game? i dont remeber whant you were but you had weapons and a jet pack (FPS), and these really funny little guys would build your base for you. Had some of the best scripting i have ever heard in a game |
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| 03:55.22 | Mr_Rabies2 | it could be a mod for starsiege tribes, but i'm not sure |
| 03:55.33 | Mr_Rabies2 | what platform? pc? |
| 03:55.39 | Thunder_Child | ya |
| 03:55.44 | Thunder_Child | no not a mod |
| 03:55.47 | Thunder_Child | own game |
| 03:56.09 | Thunder_Child | was primaily an FPS, but it had small base building and some spells |
| 03:56.14 | Thunder_Child | or was it moslt spells |
| 03:56.19 | Thunder_Child | mostly* |
| 03:57.31 | Thunder_Child | the little dudes had acents...something EU |
| 03:57.38 | Thunder_Child | scottish maybe |
| 03:57.49 | Mr_Rabies2 | ohh |
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| 03:59.42 | Thunder_Child | Mr_Rabies2, any thoughts? |
| 03:59.47 | Mr_Rabies2 | hrmm |
| 04:00.03 | Mr_Rabies2 | any idea as to the year it was made? |
| 04:00.08 | Thunder_Child | they would always be getting the crap kicked out of them |
| 04:00.12 | Thunder_Child | before 99 |
| 04:00.24 | Thunder_Child | i think |
| 04:04.58 | Mr_Rabies2 | hrmm |
| 04:05.03 | Mr_Rabies2 | no clue :( |
| 04:05.31 | Thunder_Child | origionally i was trying to find it to compare it to overlord...now i just need to find the game |
| 04:06.34 | Mr_Rabies2 | Giants: Citizen Kabuto? |
| 04:06.40 | Thunder_Child | YES! |
| 04:06.50 | Thunder_Child | woot, thanks |
| 04:07.01 | Mr_Rabies2 | http://youtube.com/watch?v=_CTOqFjH2F0 |
| 04:07.04 | Mr_Rabies2 | it's more third person |
| 04:07.06 | Mr_Rabies2 | and i never played it |
| 04:07.13 | Mr_Rabies2 | i just googled fps scottish pc |
| 04:07.15 | Mr_Rabies2 | or something |
| 04:07.17 | Mr_Rabies2 | i forget what |
| 04:07.20 | Thunder_Child | the acting it it is awesome |
| 04:07.33 | Thunder_Child | voice acting* |
| 04:11.50 | Mr_Rabies2 | you know what game has awesome voice acting? |
| 04:11.53 | Mr_Rabies2 | resident evil 1 |
| 04:11.54 | Mr_Rabies2 | http://youtube.com/watch?v=_GyOYaDHquE |
| 04:11.56 | Mr_Rabies2 | for the psx |
| 04:12.09 | Thunder_Child | is it funny? |
| 04:12.14 | Mr_Rabies2 | (that's a joke please don't even remotely take that seriously) |
| 04:12.21 | Thunder_Child | was |
| 04:12.25 | Thunder_Child | er... did |
| 04:13.05 | Thunder_Child | anyway i was trying to compare Giants to overlord, they have the same kind of humor in them |
| 04:13.06 | Mr_Rabies2 | and acting in general |
| 04:13.11 | Mr_Rabies2 | indeed |
| 04:13.15 | Mr_Rabies2 | i love overlord's humor |
| 04:13.19 | Mr_Rabies2 | FOR THE MAAHSTAHH |
| 04:13.37 | Thunder_Child | you might want to try giants just for the hell of it then, its quite funny |
| 04:14.14 | Thunder_Child | err..more moving the mouse than wondering off |
| 04:16.00 | Mr_Rabies2 | http://youtube.com/watch?v=UlyQI1U_AAo&feature=related |
| 04:16.11 | Mr_Rabies2 | resident evil is well known for superb voice acting |
| 04:16.16 | Mr_Rabies2 | almost on par with castlevania |
| 04:16.32 | Thunder_Child | are we joking again? i never played the resident evil series |
| 04:16.36 | reqol | is there an event that fires when you train a spell or a tradeskill or something similar? |
| 04:16.36 | Mr_Rabies2 | WHAT IS A MAN?! A MISERABLE LITTLE PILE OF SECRETS |
| 04:16.41 | Mr_Rabies2 | BUT ENOUGH TALK, HAVE AT YOU |
| 04:16.42 | reqol | I'm guessing no since I can't find it |
| 04:16.45 | reqol | but it's worth asking I suppose |
| 04:16.46 | Thunder_Child | nor castlevania |
| 04:17.00 | Thunder_Child | reqol, just text i think |
| 04:17.07 | Thunder_Child | you could parse the chat log |
| 04:17.23 | reqol | aye |
| 04:17.53 | reqol | or I could just scrap GetNumTrainerServices and use an OnUpdate handler while they have the frame open |
| 04:17.56 | reqol | but that might be a bad idea |
| 04:20.04 | Mr_Rabies2 | Thunder_Child |
| 04:20.37 | Thunder_Child | Mr_Rabies2, hmmm? |
| 04:21.20 | Mr_Rabies2 | http://youtube.com/watch?v=c7E_in_uZnc&feature=related |
| 04:21.25 | Mr_Rabies2 | sorry was trying to find a decent vid of it |
| 04:21.27 | Mr_Rabies2 | watch that |
| 04:21.31 | Mr_Rabies2 | amazing voice acting right there |
| 04:22.06 | Mr_Rabies2 | it's an awful combination of over and underacting |
| 04:23.18 | Thunder_Child | it feels like the coders did the voice acting |
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| 04:44.22 | Thunder_Child | didnt the orgional flash gordon have super speed or something? |
| 04:44.30 | Thunder_Child | or am i just imagineing things |
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| 04:53.10 | Shirik | anyone here familiar with QNX? |
| 04:56.08 | malreth | QNX the embedded OS? |
| 04:56.18 | malreth | tiny tiny thing that can run off a floppy |
| 04:56.50 | malreth | don't know much about it... i used to know one of the OS developers, tho |
| 04:56.54 | malreth | ah, that was back in the day |
| 04:57.08 | Intangir | i posted my addon on curse |
| 04:57.09 | Intangir | http://wow.curse.com/downloads/details/10334/ |
| 05:23.07 | Nechckn_BugHunt | Intangir that is pretty smooth lookin' wil have to check it out |
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| 06:08.15 | dylanm | Intangir: On wowi yet? |
| 06:15.51 | Thunder_Child | ah, now i remember why i despise UT3 so much |
| 06:16.37 | Iriel | Why's that? |
| 06:18.27 | Thunder_Child | because no matter what is around the enemy AI they will always shoot at you |
| 06:19.16 | Thunder_Child | i dont mind getting shot at, i mind getting shot at the exclusity of all else |
| 06:19.32 | Thunder_Child | exclusivity? |
| 06:19.35 | Thunder_Child | meh |
| 06:21.54 | Wobin | sigh |
| 06:22.01 | Wobin | this weather is playing havoc with my sinuses |
| 06:22.29 | Wobin | Thunder_Child: No, I think you're mixing up Flash with Flash Gordon? |
| 06:22.48 | Thunder_Child | Wobin, ok, now you lost me |
| 06:22.53 | Wobin | er The Flash |
| 06:23.01 | Wobin | as in the DC comic character? |
| 06:23.19 | Thunder_Child | whichever one had a 70's (or whatever) TV show |
| 06:23.24 | Wobin | Super speed, guy with a lightning bolt on his chest |
| 06:25.23 | Thunder_Child | i guess there was 2 |
| 06:26.11 | Thunder_Child | though they use the lightning bolt in the new TV series |
| 06:27.03 | Wobin | ah, new series |
| 06:27.22 | Thunder_Child | on sci-fi |
| 06:28.28 | Wobin | http://www.imdb.com/gallery/ss/0959086/Ss/0959086/NUP_106685_0183.jpg.html?path=gallery&path_key=0959086 |
| 06:34.36 | NightHawkTheSane | Thunder_Child: "exclusion" ;) |
| 06:34.55 | Thunder_Child | NightHawkTheSane, thanks, but you must be quite bored |
| 06:35.06 | NightHawkTheSane | ... yes. actually. >< |
| 06:36.51 | Thunder_Child | NightHawkTheSane, could be worse, you could be bored and not have the net |
| 06:37.23 | NightHawkTheSane | meh, i'd read a book, or play zelda or something. *shrug* |
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| 06:37.46 | Thunder_Child | heh, i read books waiting for games and such to load |
| 06:38.06 | Wobin | oh noes |
| 06:38.10 | Wobin | we are addicted to technology |
| 06:38.33 | NightHawkTheSane | i'm addicted to you rmom. |
| 06:38.36 | Thunder_Child | no i am not, i can leave my comp for minutes at a time |
| 06:38.50 | NightHawkTheSane | I leave my computer for hours a day when I go to work. |
| 06:38.59 | Wobin | I leave my computer for... 20min |
| 06:39.02 | Wobin | to go to work |
| 06:39.02 | Thunder_Child | work...i have heard of such a thing |
| 06:39.06 | Wobin | where I get on another computer |
| 06:40.06 | Thunder_Child | meh @ work |
| 06:41.28 | Wobin | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:41.40 | Wobin | I'd get so utterly bored if I weren't doing something constructive |
| 06:42.00 | Thunder_Child | i cant handle 9 hours a day starting in the morning |
| 06:42.06 | Wobin | well no |
| 06:42.09 | Wobin | that's true =) |
| 06:42.15 | Wobin | I tend to start at 10 and end at 5 |
| 06:42.23 | Wobin | but that's cause I'm a slacker =P |
| 06:42.23 | Thunder_Child | i need a job where they say "this needs to get done by X, and let me do it when i want" |
| 06:42.30 | Thunder_Child | how i want |
| 06:42.35 | Wobin | Yeah, that's the sort of job I have at the moment |
| 06:42.42 | Wobin | I've got enough seniority to pull it off |
| 06:42.48 | Wobin | and redelegate crap to others =) |
| 06:42.54 | Thunder_Child | well when i say X i mean weeks in duration |
| 06:43.26 | Wobin | Thunder_Child: You should look into contracting =) |
| 06:43.37 | Wobin | Get paid lots |
| 06:43.39 | Thunder_Child | contracting what? |
| 06:43.48 | Wobin | Nothing specific, just contracting in general |
| 06:43.56 | Wobin | take a six month contract with a company |
| 06:43.58 | Wobin | etc |
| 06:44.21 | Thunder_Child | no such thing as general contrating, unless your building things |
| 06:44.27 | Wobin | really? IT contracting |
| 06:44.36 | Thunder_Child | i got out of IT, didnt care for it |
| 06:44.38 | Wobin | ah |
| 06:44.46 | Wobin | what do you want to do then? |
| 06:44.57 | Thunder_Child | i am going for a second degree in mathematics |
| 06:45.16 | Wobin | what about business world application? |
| 06:45.19 | Thunder_Child | still not sure what i want to do though.... |
| 06:45.22 | Wobin | (rather than academic) |
| 06:45.50 | Wobin | There's lots of business in stats |
| 06:45.53 | Thunder_Child | well i plan to get to PhD lvl |
| 06:46.01 | Wobin | and data analysis |
| 06:46.15 | Wobin | Identify trends, offer suggestions for resizings |
| 06:46.19 | Thunder_Child | i wouldnt mind working for DARPA |
| 06:46.35 | Thunder_Child | Wobin, your talking about applied math |
| 06:46.40 | Wobin | well yeah =) |
| 06:46.49 | Thunder_Child | theoretical sounds more interesting |
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| 06:46.56 | Thunder_Child | though less profitable tbh |
| 06:46.58 | Wobin | If you're after the sort of job where you get told a goal and a time limit, that's what you'll have to do |
| 06:47.06 | Wobin | Theoretical is too open ended |
| 06:47.13 | Thunder_Child | exactly |
| 06:47.23 | Thunder_Child | a goal and NO time limit :) |
| 06:47.25 | Wobin | Maybe join a think tank or something? |
| 06:47.40 | Wobin | I don't really have any experience in the theoretical side of things like that |
| 06:47.53 | Thunder_Child | actually i was going to see if they ever combine it |
| 06:48.13 | Wobin | Sort of an Ideas job? |
| 06:48.27 | Wobin | where you conceptualise ideas for application by others? |
| 06:48.49 | Thunder_Child | thats one...but why not do both? |
| 06:48.59 | Wobin | well then you step into applied =) |
| 06:49.19 | Thunder_Child | ya, but i need to go higher up to see which one i really want |
| 06:49.36 | Wobin | Maybe look into the large research companies |
| 06:49.43 | Wobin | in their R&D depts |
| 06:49.57 | Thunder_Child | hence DARPA (since i like weapons) |
| 06:50.09 | Wobin | yah |
| 06:58.13 | batrick | hey there are "ideas" jobs, they are called internships :) |
| 06:59.32 | Wobin | You go there full of ideas, only to have them sapped out of you by endless requests for coffee and photocopying until they spit you out at the end a dry husk? |
| 07:00.02 | Thunder_Child | hey, i would work for free if the let me go there and pour out my ideas to them |
| 07:00.09 | Thunder_Child | they* |
| 07:03.39 | Wobin | I used to think that |
| 07:03.53 | Wobin | Until I realised how many people out there would just take advantage of it |
| 07:07.54 | Thunder_Child | you know, i really need to stop putting the bag of pretzels next to the trashcan |
| 07:08.12 | Thunder_Child | i keep reaching in the wrong opening |
| 07:13.24 | MentalPower | !api SendAddOnMessage |
| 07:13.25 | ThraeBot | MentalPower: Could not find a relevant page. Perhaps you could be so kind as to create one? http://www.wowwiki.com/API_SendAddOnMessage |
| 07:13.28 | MentalPower | !api SendAddonMessage |
| 07:13.28 | ThraeBot | MentalPower: I just said that 4s ago. |
| 07:13.57 | MentalPower | ~lart ThraeBot |
| 07:13.57 | purl | resizes ThraeBot's terminal to 40x24 |
| 07:15.17 | batrick | !g SendAddonMessage |
| 07:15.18 | batbot | batrick: API SendAddonMessage - WoWWiki, the Warcraft wiki <http://www.wowwiki.com/API_SendAddonMessage> |
| 07:15.34 | MentalPower | !g SendAddOnMessage |
| 07:15.35 | batbot | MentalPower: API SendAddonMessage - WoWWiki, the Warcraft wiki <http://www.wowwiki.com/API_SendAddonMessage> |
| 07:15.45 | MentalPower | ~kudos batrick |
| 07:16.00 | MentalPower | bah, purl doesn't do kudos either |
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| 07:29.57 | Rayne | well |
| 07:30.08 | Rayne | found me and my wife a new good guild. :) |
| 07:34.57 | krka | oooh, cool lua code: function foo(...)return ..... ..... ... end |
| 07:35.14 | Shirik | krka... |
| 07:36.03 | batrick | the hell is that |
| 07:36.21 | batrick | --> function foo(...) return ..... ..... ... end |
| 07:36.22 | krka | i didn't think the lua compiler would allow it :) |
| 07:36.28 | Shirik | it doesn't work the way I thought it would |
| 07:36.37 | krka | it worked the way i thought it would! |
| 07:36.37 | batrick | the hell does it do |
| 07:36.40 | Shirik | --> return foo("foo") |
| 07:36.40 | batbot | Shirik: > foofoofoo |
| 07:36.42 | Shirik | oh |
| 07:36.45 | Shirik | that's not what wow did... |
| 07:36.53 | krka | what did wow do? |
| 07:37.16 | Shirik | /script f = function(...) return ..... ..... ... end; DEFAULT_CHAT_FRAME:AddMessage("Foo") -- Displays "Foo" |
| 07:37.40 | batrick | krka broke lua |
| 07:38.05 | krka | Shirik: that's not surprising |
| 07:38.23 | krka | you should try DEFAULT_CHAT_FRAME:AddMessage(f("Foo")) |
| 07:38.28 | batrick | <PROTECTED> |
| 07:38.32 | Shirik | oh |
| 07:38.33 | Shirik | oop...... |
| 07:38.35 | batrick | lol! |
| 07:38.37 | Shirik | it's late >< |
| 07:38.42 | batrick | don't feel bad i didn't see it either shirik |
| 07:41.24 | batrick | man you could do some crazy fun obfuscation with that |
| 07:41.48 | batrick | anyways i'm out lat3r |
| 07:42.06 | Iriel | batrick: ..... HAS to be parsed as ... / .., because .. / ... is syntactically invalid |
| 07:42.19 | Iriel | (In the context of your example) |
| 07:42.46 | krka | <PROTECTED> |
| 07:43.04 | krka | Iriel: that's not the reason i think |
| 07:43.10 | krka | it's just that ... is greedy |
| 07:43.15 | Iriel | the lua parser is very simplistic |
| 07:43.27 | krka | agreed |
| 07:43.35 | Iriel | but I dont believe it's EVER ambiguous, if there are two plausible interpretations it throws an error |
| 07:43.41 | krka | function foo(...)return 1 ..... end |
| 07:43.43 | Iriel | which is why you get the occasional requirement for a ; |
| 07:43.59 | krka | that one isn't allowed, so it in fact doesn't choose a parsing that makes it leagl |
| 07:44.02 | krka | legal |
| 07:44.24 | krka | even though it only has one legal interpretation |
| 07:45.23 | Iriel | krka Good example, you're correct |
| 07:45.38 | Iriel | so the lexer is even more simple, and greedy. |
| 07:45.42 | krka | wtf |
| 07:45.54 | krka | this disturbs my whole world view |
| 07:47.49 | krka | function foo(...)return ..... ..... ..... ...,..... ..... ...,..... ...,... end |
| 07:47.52 | krka | <PROTECTED> |
| 07:47.55 | krka | it's pretty! :) |
| 07:48.03 | Iriel | krka: i've found the bit of the lexer that does it, it is indeed greedy |
| 07:48.39 | Iriel | it's basically "if i'm on a dot, is the next character a dot, if so, is the NEXT character a dot, if so that's a ..., otherwise it's a .. otherwise see if it's an number |
| 07:49.19 | krka | yeah |
| 07:49.41 | Iriel | llex.c line 394 for the truly curious |
| 07:49.52 | krka | don't most languages use greedy tokenizers? i.e. regexps? |
| 07:50.02 | krka | or do some languages use grammars for that? |
| 07:50.11 | Iriel | I dont think anyone seriously uses a regexp engine for a tokenizer |
| 07:50.26 | Iriel | they tend to be written as little finite state machines, or hand crafted stream parsers |
| 07:50.36 | Iriel | grammars are often what you then feed the output of the lexical analyzer to |
| 07:50.53 | Iriel | Some more complex languages kind of mix the two and are a bitch to parse |
| 07:53.42 | krka | damn it, he didn't leave me much room to argue back |
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| 08:20.37 | Gngsk | what kinda performance hit would adding something like /cancelaura greater blessing of salvation to the top of a macro that you spam all the time? |
| 08:22.27 | Tem | Gngsk, unless you're capable of spamming it REALLY REALLY fast, you shouldn't be able to tell the difference |
| 08:22.49 | Tem | (and by REALLY REALLY fast, I mean more often than once per frame) |
| 08:23.08 | Tem | (like, say, 100 times per frame) |
| 08:23.16 | Tem | (ie, you can't) |
| 08:23.21 | Gngsk | parens ftw |
| 08:23.22 | Gngsk | thanks tem |
| 08:23.36 | Tem | np |
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| 11:45.56 | Shirik | I absolutely love my UPS |
| 11:46.30 | Shirik | get this, it has this feature where if it detects a slight overvolt or undervolt (just power fluctuations, not loss of power) it will switch over to battery temporarily |
| 11:47.02 | Shirik | it also has this "feature" where it will tell you if the battery is dying (end of life, buy a new one) |
| 11:47.31 | Shirik | So it tries to switch over to battery, realizes that it can't, so it immediately cuts power completely and produces a solid tone until I turn it off and back on again. |
| 11:47.51 | nevcairiel | owned by double security |
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| 12:19.16 | cladhaire | so who wants to write my bio for the book? |
| 12:19.18 | cladhaire | ;-) |
| 12:21.48 | Shirik | "cladhaire is a horrible man that should be tarred and feathered. By buying and reading this book, you have only succeeded in damning yourself and your career as a programmer. Turn back before it is too late." |
| 12:21.52 | Shirik | yes? |
| 12:22.04 | cladhaire | could you elaborate, i think it ends too abruptly |
| 12:22.08 | cladhaire | its too "sign in the middle of the road" |
| 12:22.28 | Shirik | heh |
| 12:22.58 | Shirik | ok |
| 12:23.09 | Shirik | I have been trying to attach something to an email and send it to my team which is due today for the past 8 hours |
| 12:23.18 | cladhaire | boo |
| 12:23.32 | amro | upload and mail a link? |
| 12:23.35 | Shirik | our mail server is useless. It's a fricking 1 page RTF file. That's it. And every single time I've tried, it just sits there "uploading...." |
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| 12:23.55 | Shirik | Why should I have to do that? Why can't our damn IT department get a working email system. |
| 12:24.08 | Shirik | Ever since this "upgrade" there have been nothing but problems. |
| 12:26.00 | leethal | is there a The Simplest Mod in the World that has healthbars in it that one could look at when one wants to create a mod with healthbars in it? |
| 12:26.25 | cladhaire | umm |
| 12:26.28 | cladhaire | yes? |
| 12:26.29 | cladhaire | hold on |
| 12:26.32 | leethal | cool! |
| 12:26.59 | cladhaire | well |
| 12:26.59 | cladhaire | kinda |
| 12:27.00 | cladhaire | lol |
| 12:27.03 | Industrial | lol |
| 12:27.12 | krka | lol |
| 12:27.23 | leethal | =/ |
| 12:27.34 | cladhaire | http://files.gammatester.com/84334242eb195eb292ad4546fdc10672.zip |
| 12:27.39 | cladhaire | its actually raid unit frames |
| 12:27.43 | cladhaire | but they're really simplistic. |
| 12:27.46 | cladhaire | and work for party/player |
| 12:27.51 | cladhaire | whatever you set the attributes for |
| 12:28.09 | cladhaire | thats the addon you make in Chapter 24 :P |
| 12:28.25 | leethal | woot =) |
| 12:28.42 | leethal | thanks a ton |
| 12:29.13 | Industrial | cladhaire: :O! I didint know you had ahh okay |
| 12:29.28 | cladhaire | ? |
| 12:29.29 | cladhaire | huh? |
| 12:29.57 | Industrial | a unitframe addon |
| 12:29.58 | Industrial | :P |
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| 12:30.08 | cladhaire | i don't. |
| 12:30.18 | cladhaire | lemme show a ss |
| 12:30.21 | Industrial | k |
| 12:30.22 | leethal | wow..! reeeaallly basic |
| 12:30.25 | cladhaire | lol |
| 12:30.25 | cladhaire | yes |
| 12:30.26 | leethal | exactly what I needed |
| 12:30.28 | cladhaire | you asked for basic |
| 12:30.31 | leethal | yep =) |
| 12:30.53 | cladhaire | http://images.gammatester.com/pics/2a6627e0b543b3c402bab3b5321edf27.png |
| 12:30.57 | cladhaire | ends up looking like Grid |
| 12:31.10 | leethal | hawt =P |
| 12:31.10 | Pandya__ | rofl |
| 12:31.13 | cladhaire | but shows how to use the SecureRaidHeader |
| 12:31.14 | Pandya__ | there is three of me. |
| 12:31.18 | cladhaire | which is the point of the chapter |
| 12:31.24 | cladhaire | Pandya__: I can reoslve that |
| 12:31.42 | leethal | ima pre-order that book |
| 12:31.43 | leethal | gief gief |
| 12:31.48 | Pandya | kick pandya_ if you want |
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| 12:32.10 | Kalroth | kick Pandya if you want |
| 12:32.12 | Kalroth | :P |
| 12:32.20 | Pandya | kick Kalroth if you want |
| 12:32.23 | Kalroth | :( |
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| 12:32.32 | cladhaire | whoops :P |
| 12:32.33 | Industrial | lol |
| 12:32.39 | Kalroth | That works too :) |
| 12:32.44 | cladhaire | leethal: it'll be out in .. April |
| 12:32.53 | leethal | aw =/ |
| 12:32.54 | Industrial | cant wait |
| 12:32.59 | cladhaire | it'll be out before you know it |
| 12:33.10 | cladhaire | cogwheel just finished a really good chapter on the state headers |
| 12:33.49 | leethal | the book we've all been waiting for |
| 12:34.01 | leethal | is all the addons out-of-the-box'ish? As in, no ace/dongle/whatever? |
| 12:34.02 | cladhaire | the book that sucked up 8 months of my life :P |
| 12:34.10 | cladhaire | leethal: no frameworks, no nothing |
| 12:34.12 | cladhaire | teaching how to do things |
| 12:34.15 | Kalroth | cladhaire: Will it feature a section with Ace2 vs Rock?! I don't think this subject has been discussed enough. |
| 12:34.15 | cladhaire | so you can write your own frameworks |
| 12:34.16 | leethal | rawr |
| 12:34.25 | Kalroth | oh |
| 12:34.28 | leethal | Kalroth: lol |
| 12:34.32 | cladhaire | we need to get the current .toc posted on amazon.com |
| 12:34.48 | cladhaire | i think people would enjoy having it available. |
| 12:38.03 | leethal | gotta have a try at making this - http://bayimg.com/mAiekAaBA |
| 12:38.23 | leethal | (perfectraid on drugs?) |
| 12:38.56 | cladhaire | that could just be straight up altered praid |
| 12:39.14 | cladhaire | only the width of the health bar, and the placement of the highlight texture changed really |
| 12:39.19 | leethal | mm, it looks pretty similar |
| 12:39.24 | cladhaire | btu could be anything |
| 12:39.32 | cladhaire | is that a mock-up or actal? |
| 12:39.37 | leethal | mock-up |
| 12:41.20 | cladhaire | its easily doable with praid |
| 12:41.23 | cladhaire | not much code change eitehr |
| 12:41.46 | leethal | it's praid I had in mind, too |
| 12:41.55 | cladhaire | is that yoru mockup? |
| 12:41.56 | leethal | the only difference is the grouping, and the addition of pets |
| 12:41.59 | leethal | yeah |
| 12:42.16 | leethal | and I was thinking about a lag-aware HoT timer, too |
| 12:42.20 | cladhaire | grouping is in praid |
| 12:42.20 | cladhaire | so |
| 12:42.26 | cladhaire | and pets could be too |
| 12:42.26 | leethal | ah, that's true |
| 12:42.29 | cladhaire | just aren't at the moment. |
| 12:42.32 | cladhaire | the only thing you have here |
| 12:42.41 | cladhaire | is you'd have to manually specify which priests are casters and which are healers |
| 12:42.47 | cladhaire | and you'd have to do it by name |
| 12:43.03 | cladhaire | it _could_ be done automatically, but if it changes at any point.. the mod can't update or adjust |
| 12:43.18 | leethal | couldn't it just scan talent points or something? |
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| 12:43.50 | cladhaire | if they join the raid in combat, sure |
| 12:43.53 | cladhaire | but it would do it by name |
| 12:43.55 | cladhaire | it doesn't have a choice. |
| 12:44.16 | leethal | then again, I'm not sure if that grouping is so cool. it's kinda pointless, I can't imagine any real use of that |
| 12:44.25 | leethal | it's just eye candy, really |
| 12:44.43 | leethal | does praid have any kind of HoT timer, though? |
| 12:44.48 | cladhaire | well the grouping is all different frames |
| 12:44.58 | cladhaire | no, a Hot timer belongs in a Hot timer addon imo |
| 12:45.03 | leethal | I was picturing a simple counter to the right of the health bar |
| 12:45.17 | cladhaire | well thats where the buff status information is |
| 12:45.18 | Industrial | cladhaire: cant you get the people's spec by inspecting? |
| 12:45.21 | cladhaire | it could be added in theory |
| 12:45.26 | cladhaire | Industrial: yes.. but you still have to add them by name to the header |
| 12:45.28 | leethal | yeah, right |
| 12:45.30 | cladhaire | it doesn't matetr if you KNOW they're shadow |
| 12:45.36 | Industrial | yah k |
| 12:45.39 | cladhaire | you have three options for putting peopel in headers |
| 12:45.43 | cladhaire | group numbrs, class names, of player names |
| 12:45.45 | cladhaire | and that's it :p |
| 12:46.03 | leethal | ah, because of the limitations of the secure templates 'n stuff? |
| 12:46.09 | cladhaire | yep |
| 12:46.15 | cladhaire | reasonable limitations |
| 12:46.22 | nevcairiel | i use dynamic creation in sRaidFrames, like when i need all tanks, i just create a new named header and type all player names in :) |
| 12:46.22 | cladhaire | but limitatinos nonetheless |
| 12:46.32 | cladhaire | nevcairiel: yep, that's the best you can do |
| 12:46.52 | nevcairiel | actually, it even can import the oRA2 MT list |
| 12:46.53 | nevcairiel | ftw. |
| 12:47.31 | cladhaire | ;-) |
| 12:47.34 | nevcairiel | but thanks to cog and his macro mod, the only place where i really used that ( illidan ), i can smash one button now |
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| 12:47.47 | cladhaire | whats the new mod do |
| 12:47.49 | cladhaire | i havent' eveb looked |
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| 12:48.10 | Industrial | I dont really understand how it's so superduper :\ |
| 12:48.11 | nevcairiel | MacroSequence, uses the stateheader to create a abitary sequence of macro lines |
| 12:48.26 | cladhaire | okay, and? |
| 12:48.29 | cladhaire | what do you do with it ? |
| 12:48.32 | Industrial | but it just cycles right? if you fail eg a cast it just continues.. |
| 12:49.03 | nevcairiel | lemme get the macro i use |
| 12:49.11 | Pandya | gack |
| 12:49.13 | Pandya | epic network fail |
| 12:49.41 | nevcairiel | http://wowi.pastey.net/78576 <-- my illidan phase2 tank healing macro, not possible with normal macros, with that mod, epic win :) |
| 12:50.11 | leethal | woot |
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| 12:50.44 | nevcairiel | it simply cycles through the lines, you have to be careful enough to not press one while still in GCD or it will skip |
| 12:50.48 | nevcairiel | but still, ftw :) |
| 12:50.56 | Pandya | ...and time for the IP shuffle again ;_; |
| 12:51.10 | Kalroth | nevcairiel: lol |
| 12:51.37 | nevcairiel | Kalroth: what? :P |
| 12:51.45 | Kalroth | That resto druid macro :p |
| 12:51.59 | Kalroth | You keep 2 stacks on both flame tanks? |
| 12:52.13 | nevcairiel | i keep a full stack lifebloom on both, and reju, yes |
| 12:52.39 | Kalroth | oh right, it's 7 sec duration |
| 12:52.53 | nevcairiel | plus i can keep one tank targeted all the time for possible swiftmend when he gets hurt alot |
| 12:52.56 | Tem | j == camera2s || j == camera2s |
| 12:52.58 | Kalroth | Yeah, that'd keep 3 stacks easily on both then |
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| 12:53.08 | Tem | what do I not see i that line that makes it not retarded? |
| 12:53.30 | Kalroth | I like to keep our healers on their toes, crossing dual beams plus stacks of 3-4 blazes makes them cry |
| 12:53.39 | nevcairiel | its not retarded .. just redundant |
| 12:53.41 | leethal | Tem: uhm, it looks retarded =/ |
| 12:53.55 | Tem | it's the only change in this revision |
| 12:54.04 | Tem | and I have no idea why they did it... |
| 12:54.15 | nevcairiel | Kalroth: when we have 3 restos doing that the flame tanks never fall below 50%, quite nice :) |
| 12:54.25 | Kalroth | There's a similar variable, like camera1s or camera3s? |
| 12:54.34 | Tem | the commit messge is "now with 30% magic!" |
| 12:54.39 | nevcairiel | lol |
| 12:54.42 | Kalroth | nevcairiel: Aye, we only got 1 raiding resto >< |
| 12:54.51 | Kalroth | so I have to rely on FoL spam :p |
| 12:54.56 | nevcairiel | heh |
| 12:55.14 | nevcairiel | hope we get to illidan today again |
| 12:55.19 | nevcairiel | we slacked yesterday on RoS :/ |
| 12:55.28 | Kalroth | We got him tuesday, was pretty fast actually |
| 12:55.35 | Kalroth | Kael'thas took us tons longer |
| 12:55.38 | nevcairiel | ya same |
| 12:56.26 | Kalroth | it's a pretty sucky fight for melee though |
| 12:56.26 | nevcairiel | we killed him .. dunno .. 5 times now, and we still manage to spend a few hours on the silly bosses before him .. most of the time RoS or bloodboil |
| 12:56.31 | Wobin | Oh man |
| 12:56.40 | Wobin | I love the feeling when the asprin kicks in |
| 12:56.42 | Tem | ... fantastic |
| 12:56.49 | Tem | the commit message right before it |
| 12:56.53 | Tem | "omg ponies" |
| 12:56.55 | Kalroth | oh, we do too. Teron if people are dumb, Bloodboil if healers are slacking, RoS if dps is slacking. |
| 12:56.56 | Wobin | hehe |
| 12:56.58 | cladhaire | lol |
| 12:57.21 | nevcairiel | Tem: sounds like anyone of us here could've worked on that. :) |
| 12:57.41 | Tem | *sigh* |
| 12:57.45 | Tem | and he's not online for me to bitch at him |
| 12:57.49 | leethal | cladhaire: any plans for pets in praid btw? |
| 12:57.53 | Tem | he broke our game and I can't even test my changes anymore |
| 12:57.54 | cladhaire | yes |
| 12:58.05 | cladhaire | when i have "time" |
| 12:58.18 | Tem | no u |
| 12:58.21 | leethal | lawlz |
| 13:00.17 | Tem | fuck me I'm sleepy |
| 13:00.41 | Kalroth | granpa Tem |
| 13:01.00 | Tem | this project is due on friday |
| 13:01.08 | leethal | hmz, what's the new book called? |
| 13:01.13 | cladhaire | ~wowprogramming |
| 13:01.16 | purl | extra, extra, read all about it, wowprogramming is World of Warcraft Programming: A Guide and Reference for Creating WoW Addons, a book written by Cladhaire, Kaelten and Cogwheel. It serves as a technical reference for the WoW API and customization system (Due out Early 2008). http://tinyurl.com/2vtlya |
| 13:01.30 | leethal | aww =) |
| 13:01.31 | leethal | ~botsnack |
| 13:01.31 | purl | leethal: :) |
| 13:01.46 | Kalroth | cladhaire: cogwheel wrote january on his site, so that's the date I'm believing! |
| 13:01.48 | foxlit | The cover is cute |
| 13:03.10 | cladhaire | the cover is mad hawt! |
| 13:03.19 | Wobin | oh hey |
| 13:03.25 | Wobin | I -like- that cover =) |
| 13:03.37 | leethal | a bit more neat that the previous book |
| 13:03.50 | Tem | cladhaire, zomg wow |
| 13:03.52 | nevcairiel | man german amazon adds alot of shipping to that .. its 44€ .. .com lists it as $27 .. thats about 23€ .. o.O |
| 13:03.55 | Tem | the cover is awesome |
| 13:03.57 | Wobin | Lars Desouza? |
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| 13:04.00 | Tem | esp compared to the other |
| 13:04.08 | Tem | "DON'T GET PWNED!" |
| 13:04.11 | Wobin | Tem: Totally agreed =) |
| 13:04.17 | Wobin | The other cover was... tacky =) |
| 13:04.26 | foxlit | But does it come with a richard figurine? |
| 13:04.28 | Wobin | or rather, uninformed sort of media =) |
| 13:04.28 | Tem | let's not remind clad too much |
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| 13:05.37 | Wobin | PS, read LFG's -other- webcomic |
| 13:05.41 | cladhaire | yeah i fought that cover and title every step of teh way |
| 13:05.42 | Wobin | Least I Could Do |
| 13:05.48 | Wobin | really really funny =) |
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| 13:08.33 | Wobin | hehe |
| 13:09.26 | nevcairiel | there is another LFG comig? |
| 13:09.36 | Wobin | well by the same people |
| 13:09.42 | Wobin | but not fantasy themed |
| 13:10.33 | Wobin | http://www.leasticoulddo.com/ |
| 13:10.39 | Wobin | definitely entertaining |
| 13:14.58 | leethal | all those attributes on SecureGroupHeaderTemplate frames - are they documented somewhere? |
| 13:15.26 | Wobin | http://www.lfgcomic.com/page/95 |
| 13:15.28 | Wobin | BUNNY |
| 13:15.33 | Wobin | omg bunny =) |
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| 13:16.38 | leethal | lol, with a skull |
| 13:16.42 | cladhaire | i want a bunny mount |
| 13:16.52 | alestane | Like that warlock in LFG? |
| 13:17.00 | Wobin | hehe yeah =) |
| 13:17.06 | Wobin | was just linking the page |
| 13:17.29 | alestane | When's Cairenn usually come on? I know it's a little early. |
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| 13:18.34 | alestane | Oh wait, she's out of town, right? NVM. |
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| 13:20.03 | alestane | dolby-wowi: No idea if this is a useful question, but one of my add-ons seems to have gone from 4600 downloads to 17,000 in two days. I shouldn't complain but I'm having serious "THAT can't be right" syndrome. |
| 13:20.32 | greppy | alestane: which addon? |
| 13:20.38 | alestane | Demonomicon. |
| 13:21.58 | alestane | Might have something to do with the fact that I just uploaded a new version, but I would normally expect that to add maybe 50% to 80% to the downloads, not quadruple them. |
| 13:22.17 | alestane | Any warlock addons get broken recently? |
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| 13:23.33 | alestane | Well, have to head to work now, see y'all later. |
| 13:40.43 | mikma | Intangir: going to fix the bug? :) |
| 13:48.38 | leethal | cladhaire: so, if I send ya a diff for perfectraid that includes pet frames, that'd be cool? |
| 13:49.02 | cladhaire | as long as its not a horrid hack, absolutely |
| 13:49.14 | cladhaire | time is the only thing preventing me from getting it done |
| 13:49.16 | cladhaire | damn sleep |
| 13:49.19 | cladhaire | and 24 hour limit in the day |
| 13:49.25 | Kalroth | cladhaire: More coffee. |
| 13:49.33 | leethal | let's move to Jupiter or something |
| 13:49.43 | Kalroth | Coffee extends the day from 20 hours to 22 hours! |
| 13:51.01 | leethal | cladhaire: what about HoT timers, though? I'd say it makes sense to have that on the unit frames, but you're the boss =P |
| 13:51.10 | leethal | I'll fork it as imbaraid |
| 13:51.22 | cladhaire | i would rather avoid a fork, and that's mean threatening it. |
| 13:51.30 | cladhaire | what do these hot timers look like |
| 13:51.32 | cladhaire | whats the concept |
| 13:51.39 | cladhaire | wrt perfectraid |
| 13:52.03 | leethal | when you cast a hot on a unit, a counter appears to the right of that unit's health bar |
| 13:52.18 | leethal | the timer counts down to show you when the HoT runs out |
| 13:52.19 | cladhaire | what kind of counter |
| 13:52.26 | cladhaire | you have to tell me what it looks like wrt to perfectraid |
| 13:52.29 | leethal | a number, showing the time in seconds |
| 13:52.29 | cladhaire | since that's what we're talking about |
| 13:52.31 | cladhaire | praid shows Rj |
| 13:52.34 | cladhaire | how does it show the time |
| 13:52.36 | cladhaire | or Rg |
| 13:52.37 | cladhaire | or Lb |
| 13:52.48 | leethal | Rj(5), perhaps |
| 13:52.58 | cladhaire | (5) shows stacks |
| 13:53.09 | nevcairiel | Lb(5)-3 |
| 13:53.09 | nevcairiel | :P |
| 13:53.09 | leethal | I'll get back to ya with a screenshot, tbh I don't really know how praid handles hots |
| 13:53.14 | nevcairiel | err, Lb(3)-5! |
| 13:53.16 | nevcairiel | that way |
| 13:53.17 | nevcairiel | :) |
| 13:53.23 | cladhaire | well that would make sense to know, if we're talking about diffing it :P |
| 13:53.51 | leethal | sorta =P |
| 13:55.17 | JoshBorke | quit pinging me! |
| 13:55.43 | nevcairiel | whats your ping? |
| 13:55.49 | JoshBorke | i'm not telling you |
| 13:55.58 | JoshBorke | because then you'll just abuse it more |
| 13:56.02 | cladhaire | Lb |
| 13:56.04 | nevcairiel | lb for legoblock? |
| 13:56.17 | JoshBorke | nope, but it was a good guess |
| 13:56.28 | JoshBorke | :-P |
| 13:56.35 | Kalroth | largest_boobie |
| 13:56.46 | JoshBorke | damn, kalroth figured it out |
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| 14:12.34 | Taeri | *hates on the bf a bit* his dad just delivered a 22 inch widescreen screen on our door >__0 |
| 14:13.11 | Taeri | for the bf to "borrow" from the place his dad works. :P |
| 14:13.26 | Fisker- | omg girls on the internet |
| 14:13.37 | Taeri | ohmahgaaawd |
| 14:13.40 | Taeri | wherewhere?! |
| 14:13.41 | Taeri | oh wait |
| 14:13.41 | Taeri | me |
| 14:13.56 | nevcairiel | Fisker-: only because "it" has a bf doesnt make "it" female yet.. |
| 14:14.10 | Fisker- | nope |
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| 14:14.30 | Fisker- | but i was sure that i might get some internet tough guy beatings if i were to go down that path |
| 14:14.37 | nevcairiel | lol |
| 14:14.50 | nevcairiel | altho in this case, you were probably right |
| 14:14.59 | nevcairiel | but you never know on the interwebs |
| 14:15.05 | Taeri | Ok, I checked, I'm defenetly a female |
| 14:15.18 | greppy | What about 3rd party verification? |
| 14:15.23 | Fisker- | perhaps you should send some photos and videos for verification |
| 14:15.23 | nevcairiel | hehe |
| 14:15.28 | Fisker- | bah greppy |
| 14:16.03 | greppy | Technically, video and photos sent from the person in question do not provide solid verification. |
| 14:16.12 | Fisker- | yeah |
| 14:16.18 | Fisker- | perhaps we should meet instead |
| 14:16.25 | Fisker- | i verify first greppy |
| 14:16.28 | nevcairiel | oh well, if its fake it will probably at least look good |
| 14:17.04 | greppy | "She said she was 18! I swear!" |
| 14:17.07 | Fisker- | :O |
| 14:17.44 | Taeri | nevcairiel: Hey! I look good! I don't need fake stuff to make me look good XD |
| 14:19.06 | Taeri | and for the love of god, could the bf pleaaase answer the phone when I call him, or send him a txt message about wether I'm picking him up from work today or not >___< |
| 14:19.48 | amro | Taeri: easy, don't pick him up |
| 14:20.17 | Taeri | But I'm too nice! |
| 14:21.05 | Taeri | Ohwell, I sent him a message a longlong time ago. |
| 14:21.34 | nevcairiel | Taeri: I just meant that someone who pretends to be a girl would definately use a good looking photo .. :) |
| 14:21.34 | Taeri | I think he's ignoring texts like that >__> |
| 14:22.15 | Taeri | I knew someone who did, only, he was a guy waiting to be a girl. He told me this to cheer me up one day. I was more shocked than anything XD |
| 14:23.51 | nevcairiel | A long time ago, i knew a guy who pretended to be a girl for like 2 years in some online game, he told me at one point, i never understood why he did it in the first place tho, i think it was some weird story with his gf playing before, then he took over and it never changed .. oh well, wonder what he is up to now .. long time no see |
| 14:24.22 | nevcairiel | makes some funny storys if you are in on it tho =P |
| 14:24.23 | Lopeppeppy | It's nice to be something you're not, sometimes. Ask Clark Kent. |
| 14:24.38 | Taeri | I know someone who pretends to be a girl ingame WoW, so he'll get more stash from his guildies ;P |
| 14:24.44 | Taeri | and it works too! |
| 14:24.45 | nevcairiel | lol |
| 14:24.48 | nevcairiel | i bet |
| 14:24.57 | Fisker- | i work too much for a phone |
| 14:25.19 | nevcairiel | that guy told me once how that other guy kept hittin on him .. man did we laugh =P |
| 14:25.24 | Fisker- | i once discovered that my phone had 17 calls when i got back from work |
| 14:25.28 | Fisker- | because i don't use ringphones |
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| 14:25.31 | Taeri | I'm a girl sure, I never really hide it, but I don't ask people and flirtlike with them, just to get freebies. |
| 14:25.41 | Taeri | people hopefully gives me freebies because I'm nice >__> |
| 14:26.13 | nevcairiel | being a girl helps there already, you dont even have to start flirting, sometimes that only gets you the bitch title =P |
| 14:26.18 | kaiden | taeri, no.. they do it to get in your pants, and all i have to say is... trust no one.. it's a trap |
| 14:26.44 | Lopeppeppy | I'm a girl, the group knows it... but I'm a Mommy Girl, I spend more time organizing their soccer camps than getting stuff for myself. :) |
| 14:26.53 | Taeri | got three pieces of Beaststalker armor once, a eaglehorn longbow at some point. |
| 14:27.16 | nevcairiel | even tho my char is female and all, i've been told its quite obvious that i am not. wonder if my name is too complicated for a girl to pick *shrug |
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| 14:28.38 | Lopeppeppy | It's rarely the name, nevcairiel. It's usually the word choice and the emotes. |
| 14:28.48 | Fisker- | i hate smileys |
| 14:28.51 | Taeri | I've also had some lvl 70 donate neat stuff to my guilds guildbank. (sure, he has a alt in the my guild, but still) He could probably have made a bit of money on selling the items instead. |
| 14:28.54 | Fisker- | unless it's :P or :D |
| 14:29.02 | Fisker- | I especially hate :-) |
| 14:29.09 | Fisker- | IT MAKES ME WANNA KILL |
| 14:29.10 | nevcairiel | i hate all noses in smileys |
| 14:29.21 | nevcairiel | keep all - out there |
| 14:29.25 | Taeri | ^__^ this is not a smilie, it is a anime emoticon! |
| 14:29.37 | Fisker- | i wanna punch the smiley in the face! |
| 14:29.40 | Lopeppeppy | Taeri -- have you found yourself an admirer, or a big brother? Guys think of their attentions sometimes in different ways. |
| 14:30.08 | Taeri | Lopeppeppy: No clue! |
| 14:30.44 | Taeri | Probably more on the big brother thing though. |
| 14:31.03 | Taeri | I have an admirerer, I call him my boyfriend, but he never gives me stuff ingame XD |
| 14:32.35 | nevcairiel | your actual boyfriend? :P |
| 14:32.47 | Taeri | Yes. :P |
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| 14:33.00 | nevcairiel | does he even play ? ^^ |
| 14:33.17 | Taeri | Jeppjepp |
| 14:33.24 | Taeri | he blames me for bringing him back into WoW. |
| 14:33.43 | nevcairiel | heh, he could blame you for worse things |
| 14:33.46 | Taeri | He'd had a long nie break until I came along and bribed him into playing with me. |
| 14:34.30 | nevcairiel | I could probably stop raiding at some point, but with all the coding i couldnt just stop completly |
| 14:35.20 | Lopeppeppy | I'm looking for more ways to bribe my male OUT of WoW for the winter! *laugh* |
| 14:36.01 | Taeri | I'd suggest lots of nekkidness, but eeh.. hmm |
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| 14:40.28 | Lopeppeppy | That's totally on the roster, Taeri. *laugh* I was looking for like... a class or a sporting event or something of a more vertical persuasion too. :) |
| 14:42.29 | Taeri | Oh, hihi. Well, don't have any suggestions for you then.. |
| 14:43.14 | Taeri | Now, do I pick up the bf, or, do I not. And tell him he got a message about it waaay earlier today, asking him nicely to take the bus home. |
| 14:44.35 | nevcairiel | dont |
| 14:45.29 | Lopeppeppy | Send him one more message, in case he somehow didn't get the ones before? But in it say, "If I don't hear from you I'm heading home, and you'll be stuck on the bus." |
| 14:46.28 | Taeri | I am too, which is the problem here. If I say no, and he comes home grumpy, I'll spend the rest of the day saying I'm sorry. :P |
| 14:46.42 | Taeri | But! I drove him to work this morning, that's got to count for something. |
| 14:46.52 | Taeri | since we initially agreed on him taking the bus to work. |
| 14:46.55 | Lopeppeppy | And you have made reasonable attempts to retrieve him, too. |
| 14:47.29 | Taeri | and then he failed to actually catch that bus, and storms into the bedroom and makes me get up and drive him 0.o |
| 14:47.57 | Lopeppeppy | So.... YOU should be grumpy, in this case? |
| 14:48.44 | Taeri | Yeah, we've pretty much agreed on him starting to take the bus from this week and onwards. But he's sort of failed to catch the bus everyday >__> |
| 14:49.18 | nevcairiel | haha |
| 14:49.24 | Lopeppeppy | Many and varied are the discussions on the use of alarm clocks.... |
| 14:49.38 | Taeri | I have a horribly wonked day/night thing |
| 14:50.01 | Taeri | and I need that extra time in the morning, where I sleep and he goes to work on his own, to fix it. |
| 14:50.28 | nevcairiel | girls and their sleeping times, always the same <.< |
| 14:50.39 | Taeri | He was up all night today, so he can't really say he overslept this time ;P |
| 14:52.45 | Lopeppeppy | Carrot and stick time... rewards for letting you sleep, and hell to pay for not. |
| 14:53.33 | Taeri | hehe, I instantly feel bad though, when I try to do stuff like that. |
| 14:55.37 | Lopeppeppy | Me too. Reference "softie" above. I'm always the Bad Guy, it stinks. So I make better treats to make up for it. |
| 14:56.30 | Taeri | Yeah |
| 14:56.42 | Taeri | I did make him muffins on his bday though XD |
| 14:57.17 | Taeri | at like 3am. After I got home from picking him up from his ex when he'd had a very low bloodsugar. >__> |
| 14:57.34 | Lopeppeppy | Life must be livable, and it's not always easy to compromise.... you're a damn saint. |
| 14:58.07 | Taeri | We were both up, and I was a bit anxious about his bloodsugar, since he was realweird when I picked him up. |
| 14:58.29 | Taeri | I don't know if you've ever encountered someone with diabetes having very low bloodsugar? |
| 14:59.02 | Taeri | It's like they're totally gone into their own little world. |
| 14:59.03 | Lopeppeppy | They can be unpredicatable, and that's a mild statement. |
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| 15:00.58 | Taeri | Yeah. He was getting back to himself, but he was having serious problems concentrating. So me and his ex were sort of thnking there was something else wrong with him at the same time. |
| 15:01.58 | Taeri | So since he wasn't sleepy, I stayed up too, finished the muffins I started baking right before the ex called me to tell me to come pick him up. And just made sure he was ok and stuff. |
| 15:03.51 | Taeri | I'm horrible though too, I easily get anxious because of his diabetes. And it sort of makes me nag about bloodsugar, eating, and such things. And I know he doesn't like it, but I can't help but doing so, to make myself feel comforted. |
| 15:04.18 | Taeri | I think he understood why though, after the whole event of me waking up and finding him with a seizure on the sofa one morning. |
| 15:05.52 | Taeri | I'm ranting, sorry XD |
| 15:06.17 | Lopeppeppy | Give hugs, and then tough love, and then hugs. |
| 15:07.35 | Taeri | There's lots of hugs. |
| 15:07.48 | Lopeppeppy | Then everything will work out okay. I believe strongly in hugs. |
| 15:07.57 | Taeri | hugs are awesome |
| 15:08.25 | Taeri | ok, it's 16:07 and he hasn't called me yet... mybe he's actually on the bus 0.o |
| 15:08.33 | Lopeppeppy | They make my world go 'round. That and having the cat sit on my lap to "watch tv" with me. |
| 15:09.28 | Taeri | Hihi, we had the cat visiting us one day, is just idly fell asleep on beforementioned boyfriends keyboard. :P |
| 15:10.21 | Lopeppeppy | I avoid keyboard sitting by having a warmer place just north, on my actual desk. She watches and helps, but doesn't interfere too much. |
| 15:10.41 | Taeri | hihi |
| 15:12.43 | Taeri | I'll go fold more towels and put them in their place, and do some more appartment cleaning. So I can justify staying home instead of picking him up >__> |
| 15:13.44 | Intangir | Nechckn_BugHunt: did you check out the addon? |
| 15:13.56 | Intangir | dylanm_: is what on wowi? |
| 15:14.02 | Intangir | mikma: the bug is fixed |
| 15:14.58 | mikma | Intangir: YAY |
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| 15:16.32 | Intangir | it got fixed by chance by a cleanup of some unneeded calls |
| 15:16.59 | Intangir | new version is up on curse now too |
| 15:17.05 | Intangir | give me a rating boost if you like it ;) |
| 15:17.27 | Intangir | http://wow.curse.com/downloads/details/10334/ |
| 15:18.05 | Intangir | im pretty pleased, thats basically my first real addon, that does anything more than hide a window or dump 1 single function calls results ;) |
| 15:18.19 | Intangir | and it seems pretty useful and i think i scripted it in a pretty slick way |
| 15:18.26 | Intangir | basically making blizzard do all the work |
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| 15:28.56 | Shirik|AFK | I will totally give you a rating reduction, Industrial |
| 15:28.58 | Shirik|AFK | Intangir* |
| 15:29.01 | Shirik|AFK | You put it on Curse |
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| 15:36.18 | Industrial | Anyone here use WoW UI Updater? |
| 15:38.36 | Ktron | Industrial, you mean WAU? |
| 15:39.04 | kaiden|work | no he means WoW UI Updater :P |
| 15:39.07 | Industrial | .. |
| 15:39.09 | Ktron | okay ;) |
| 15:39.25 | kaiden|work | Industrial, and no.. it's not so good from what i've heard on the forums |
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| 15:42.07 | Industrial | well it handles curse wowi wowace and any svn adress you specify so |
| 15:42.10 | Industrial | :P |
| 15:42.14 | Industrial | (and prolly more) |
| 15:42.40 | Lopeppeppy | I prefer to stay right away from .exe and keyloggers and all other forms of Internet Evil. |
| 15:43.16 | Industrial | it gets painful when everyone decides to host his stuff on his own svn and you have to track shit |
| 15:43.20 | amro | yeah, it could easily be a keylogger. it even asks for your password! |
| 15:43.30 | Industrial | even MORE when someone deicdes to use a diffferent RCS tool tehn SVn alltogether |
| 15:43.45 | Industrial | hm not here |
| 15:46.16 | Lopeppeppy | I go shopping for my own cookies all by myself, I don't use PeaPod, and I don't use a downloader for my addons. I like to squeeze for freshness with my own two hands. |
| 15:46.57 | Shirik | I go shopping for cookies too. |
| 15:47.03 | Shirik | I like going to all of the various ad sites |
| 15:47.11 | Shirik | turn security settings down to as low as possible |
| 15:47.23 | Shirik | free cookies! |
| 15:47.45 | Shirik | Occasionally I might just write a PHP script to make myself some cookies |
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| 15:53.32 | mikma | Intangir: care to commit the bugfix? :) |
| 15:56.13 | Shirik | <?php for($x = 1; $x < 20; $x++) { setcookie("Cookie".$x, $x) } ?> |
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| 15:57.28 | Intangir | Shirik: whats wrong with curse? |
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| 15:57.36 | Intangir | mikma: its been submitted since before you told me about it |
| 15:57.45 | Intangir | its in that v1 version |
| 15:58.00 | Shirik | The #1 thing that's wrong is what's been consistently happening to cladhaire, but I won't get into that now. They have many more faults, and I just plain don't like them. |
| 15:58.20 | Intangir | well which other ones should i put it on |
| 15:58.31 | Intangir | i couldnt figure out how to submit it on wowinterface |
| 15:58.39 | dylanm_ | Really? |
| 15:58.41 | Lopeppeppy | I "shop" at wowinterface myself.... |
| 15:58.48 | mikma | Intangir: it's still revision 8, same as the version that doesn't have the fix |
| 15:59.06 | Intangir | mikma: you got revision7 the other day |
| 15:59.24 | Intangir | the only fix is removing that call to setscale on events |
| 15:59.30 | mikma | Intangir: i've been using rev 8 for 2 days now or so |
| 15:59.32 | Intangir | it should be gone in revision.. 8? |
| 15:59.56 | mikma | nope |
| 16:00.08 | Intangir | so how do you reproduce it? go into a BG/ and type /console reloadui? |
| 16:00.14 | Intangir | cause i tried that and no bug |
| 16:00.18 | mikma | BattlefieldLocator.lua:320: attempt to index global 'tMinimap' (a nil value) |
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| 16:01.05 | mikma | and BattlefieldLocator.lua:359: attempt to index local 'unitButton' (a nil value) |
| 16:01.30 | mikma | Intangir: this is the battlefieldminimap hidden |
| 16:01.37 | mikma | when i open it the errors will stop |
| 16:01.48 | Intangir | ok so you default it off, and you get those? |
| 16:02.15 | mikma | yeap |
| 16:02.29 | Intangir | ok ill try it out at lunch |
| 16:02.31 | Intangir | im at work now |
| 16:02.52 | Intangir | what causes an addon to be loaded on demand? |
| 16:03.00 | Intangir | cause i dont ever do anythign to cause their addon to load |
| 16:03.07 | Intangir | and the code to cause it to load is IN their addon.. |
| 16:03.10 | Intangir | so how can it load itself? |
| 16:03.23 | Intangir | and can i make it load? |
| 16:03.32 | mikma | well maybe they changed it in 2.3 |
| 16:03.52 | Intangir | is there any UI to force an addon to load? |
| 16:03.56 | Intangir | i mean api |
| 16:04.09 | mikma | LoadAddon("name") ? |
| 16:04.44 | Intangir | im gonna just put that in there ;) |
| 16:04.47 | Intangir | i mean its a tiny addon |
| 16:04.53 | Intangir | and my whole addon is for it |
| 16:04.58 | Intangir | well half of it |
| 16:05.18 | mikma | why not just add Blizzard_BattlefieldMinimap in .toc |
| 16:07.15 | Intangir | add it where? |
| 16:07.56 | mikma | ## Dependencies: Blizzard_BattlefieldMinimap |
| 16:08.05 | Intangir | you think it will work? |
| 16:08.08 | Intangir | can you test it for me ;) |
| 16:08.09 | mikma | not sure :O |
| 16:08.09 | Intangir | im at work |
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| 16:08.13 | mikma | yeah |
| 16:08.14 | Intangir | i assumed it wouldnt |
| 16:08.21 | Intangir | i figured it would just claim my dependancies were missing |
| 16:08.41 | Intangir | cause therees isnt listed on the addon list since its builtin |
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| 16:09.00 | mikma | well i've done that before :P and it works |
| 16:09.02 | Intangir | if that doesnt work tell me, ill check in this change that should fix it |
| 16:09.03 | dylanm_ | It's in the addon directory. Depending on Blizzard addons works. |
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| 16:09.15 | Intangir | ok cool |
| 16:09.30 | Intangir | let me know if it works then mikma, hopefully the addon load order will still be fine and it will still load my variables right |
| 16:09.36 | Intangir | test that scaling still saves |
| 16:10.03 | mikma | i'll test and see |
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| 16:14.50 | Intangir | i think its gonna break my addon.. |
| 16:15.18 | Intangir | cause im doing stuff on load of the blizz addon cause they always are after mine |
| 16:15.23 | Intangir | now they will be before mine probably |
| 16:15.30 | Intangir | and mine wont be loaded and wont do my Load stuff |
| 16:15.57 | Intangir | so i guess i should just change it to test for addon loaded on my addons name ;) |
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| 16:20.07 | malreth|ghost | Intangir: are you using the ## LoadWith: line in your .toc? |
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| 16:22.13 | malreth | mmm... no you are not |
| 16:22.35 | malreth | !g LoadWith site:wowwiki.com |
| 16:22.36 | batbot | malreth: TOC format - WoWWiki, the Warcraft wiki <http://www.wowwiki.com/TOC_format> |
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| 16:25.27 | Intangir | i checked loadwith |
| 16:25.31 | Intangir | that means mine loads when theirs loads |
| 16:25.33 | Intangir | but that wont work |
| 16:25.44 | Intangir | half my code works on worldmap |
| 16:25.44 | Intangir | half of it works in minimap |
| 16:25.45 | Intangir | which is load on demand.. |
| 16:26.00 | Intangir | i want theirs to be loaded with mine, not mine to be loaded with theirs |
| 16:26.18 | malreth | ah... well then don't hook the minimap stuff until you see it get loaded |
| 16:26.45 | Intangir | ya perhaps i will just have to only have half my code initialized seperately, and half of it only run if some state flag is set |
| 16:26.52 | Intangir | thats more major than just forcing theirs to load right away though ;) |
| 16:27.05 | Intangir | we are just testing which way is easiest to force theirs to laod |
| 16:27.10 | Intangir | load.. |
| 16:27.19 | malreth | ideally, you don't want to go and load LoD addons that don't need to be started |
| 16:27.48 | Intangir | well most likely people who run my addon are doing it for that functionality that i need from blizzard |
| 16:28.07 | malreth | right, but they won't need it until the minimap is loaded |
| 16:28.16 | Intangir | i suppose |
| 16:28.29 | Intangir | for me all i do is BGs and pvp ;) |
| 16:28.30 | malreth | it's always more work to do things the Right Way(TM) |
| 16:28.38 | Intangir | but i guess some wont be using that part at all half the night or something |
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| 16:29.17 | Intangir | still curious if it works to force it to load though |
| 16:29.18 | Intangir | mikma: did it work? |
| 16:29.51 | malreth | but it builds character |
| 16:29.51 | malreth | it's easy enough to break up the init code |
| 16:29.51 | malreth | you already have an ADDON_LOADED event handler |
| 16:29.51 | malreth | and if you followed my example on how to load yoru saved variables, you already have an if-then test for your addon's name |
| 16:30.03 | malreth | just add an elseif to test for "Blizzard_BattlefieldMinimap" and put your minimap init code there |
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| 16:35.12 | malreth | stupid wireless connection |
| 16:36.38 | mikma | Intangir: haven't tested, horde thought it's nice to kill us while we're lower level than him so it turned out to be a main-char gankwar against ihm |
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| 16:36.42 | mikma | him* |
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| 16:38.15 | Intangir | malreth: ya im gonna do it |
| 16:38.28 | Intangir | i actually already started doing it |
| 16:38.30 | Intangir | its almost done |
| 16:38.32 | malreth | good show old bean! |
| 16:38.40 | malreth | see! addons is easy! |
| 16:38.47 | Intangir | this kind of code seems easy |
| 16:38.51 | Intangir | doing rich guis seems real hard |
| 16:39.03 | Intangir | i dont know how people setup really interesting guis |
| 16:39.10 | Intangir | like the setup dialogs on some of these addons are extreme |
| 16:39.22 | Cide | are the wow forums down? |
| 16:39.23 | JoshBorke | Intangir: practice. i got started with a combination of FaraFrames and Wow ui designer |
| 16:39.31 | JoshBorke | Intangir: from there i just sort of make it up |
| 16:39.38 | cncfanatics | hello all |
| 16:39.46 | Intangir | wow ui designer doesnt work on linux does it? |
| 16:39.52 | Intangir | i think i tried to run one, didnt install on linux |
| 16:39.53 | Intangir | it used mono |
| 16:39.59 | Intangir | i mean .net |
| 16:40.02 | Intangir | and i couldnt get mono to work |
| 16:43.00 | JoshBorke | yea, only for windows |
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| 16:47.06 | mikma | Intangir: pst, take your name off from the title ;) |
| 16:47.52 | mikma | Intangir: and, i had to disable your addon, it errors too much |
| 16:48.18 | mikma | Intangir: the same error over and over eventho the battlefieldminimap was open etc, didn't save scale, alpha... |
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| 16:51.35 | Intangir | mikma: ok ya i figured that would happen |
| 16:51.49 | Intangir | mikma: nah im leaving my name on it too, looks cool ;) |
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| 16:52.05 | mikma | Intangir: and btw, the ## Dependencies: Blizzard_BattlefieldMinimap didn't help |
| 16:52.07 | Intangir | others are doing it |
| 16:52.16 | |Jelly| | ~throatpunch |
| 16:52.16 | purl | ACTION punches |jelly| in the throat. |
| 16:52.23 | Rayne | :O |
| 16:52.25 | |Jelly| | weak |
| 16:52.31 | Intangir | i think it worked, its just that the altered load order screwed everything up |
| 16:52.38 | Rayne | |Jelly|: way to own yourself :P |
| 16:52.41 | Intangir | im going to do it 'the right way(tm)' |
| 16:52.55 | |Jelly| | Rayne: I do it all the time. I'm just not usually so public about it. |
| 16:53.00 | Rayne | hehe |
| 16:53.05 | Rayne | sup all :) |
| 16:54.06 | Rayne | I had the wierdest dream ever last night |
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| 17:01.52 | malreth | Rayne: you dreamed that garth brooks was plugging abraham lincoln in the doo-doo hole with a lawn dart while laying a boston steamer on santa claus? |
| 17:02.35 | Thunder_Child | malreth, stop pushing your fantisies on other people |
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| 17:03.21 | Thunder_Child | fantasys* |
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| 17:08.01 | Tierrie | fantasies |
| 17:09.19 | Kaso | http://img.waffleimages.com/200f60114cd33e74c6f489d47eabd81ff351a1dc/donotreboot.JPG |
| 17:09.34 | Kaso | Woops eve online updater accidently deleted boot.ini |
| 17:09.58 | Thunder_Child | "Doomguard and Infernal pets will be improved at some point in the future, quite possibly in Wrath of the Lich King." wow, that is quite some time in the future |
| 17:10.41 | laindir | let's hope so :( |
| 17:11.10 | laindir | as much as I'd like to see them be worthwhile pets, I really hope they don't rush wotk |
| 17:11.11 | Thunder_Child | "All whelplings have a 1 in 1,000 chance of dropping." |
| 17:13.17 | laindir | s/wotk/wotlk |
| 17:14.05 | nevcairiel | I dont think blizzard will ever rush a expansion |
| 17:14.11 | dieck | i've already seen LK as abbr., becuase wotlk is too much and too complicated for some people :) |
| 17:14.34 | laindir | imho, they rushed tbc |
| 17:14.34 | dieck | looks more likely to make it than WotLK :) |
| 17:14.44 | laindir | they released it too soon after naxx |
| 17:15.00 | nevcairiel | well that was another issue, but tbc was pretty much done |
| 17:15.26 | nevcairiel | as rushing a expansion i would understand pushing it out unfinished |
| 17:15.32 | laindir | granted, as far as bugs are concerned, it was very clean as expansions go |
| 17:17.53 | Thunder_Child | and according to their timeline, later than they wanted |
| 17:18.08 | Thunder_Child | they wanted one expansion a year |
| 17:18.40 | nevcairiel | oh well i am fine with summer 08 or so, and i dont think its getting out earlier |
| 17:19.14 | laindir | as long as they don't release a new 25 man between now and then |
| 17:19.25 | nevcairiel | there hasnt even been any word about a new friends&family alpha or so, has there? |
| 17:19.33 | Thunder_Child | laindir, sunwell |
| 17:19.38 | nevcairiel | laindir: they will, 2.4 will bring one =P |
| 17:19.43 | laindir | >.< |
| 17:20.08 | nevcairiel | not everyone can expect to beat everything |
| 17:20.18 | nevcairiel | i mean, we didnt down kelthuzad in naxx back then |
| 17:20.24 | nevcairiel | but now, we killed illidan already |
| 17:20.25 | laindir | my guild's not even in hyjal yet :( |
| 17:20.27 | nevcairiel | need new content |
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| 17:23.12 | Thunder_Child | heh http://gizmodo.com/gadgets/windows-error-may-bring-galactic-debacle/best-windows-error-ever-may-rip-time+space-continuum-destroy-reality-330648.php |
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| 17:24.29 | |Jelly| | anyone recall the Sfx on/off script? |
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| 17:53.58 | leethal | cladhaire: about that BasicUnitFrames. I guess it's rather annoying to answer this question, as it's probably explained thoroughly in the book relates to, but I'll try anyway =P |
| 17:54.17 | Intangir | mikma: you on? |
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| 17:54.30 | cladhaire | leethal: okay |
| 17:54.35 | mikma | Intangir: ya |
| 17:54.39 | leethal | cladhaire: what exactly makes that addon aware of raid/party status? I was expecting some monitoring of PARTY_MEMBER_CHANGED etc, but can't find any of that around |
| 17:54.54 | leethal | is the SecureGroupHeaderTemplate frame alone doing that, or something? |
| 17:54.59 | cladhaire | yep |
| 17:55.04 | cladhaire | its all magic done by the template |
| 17:55.10 | cladhaire | you just tell it what/when/how to display things |
| 17:55.11 | cladhaire | and it does it |
| 17:55.20 | leethal | neat =) |
| 17:55.26 | zenzelezz | http://icanhascheezburger.files.wordpress.com/2007/12/funny-pictures-bored-cat.jpg -- classic |
| 17:55.53 | Intangir | mikma: i just checked in a new revision, i havent tested it cause im at work.. |
| 17:55.57 | leethal | cladhaire: so you could just as well have used that in praid? |
| 17:56.23 | cladhaire | leethal: i do |
| 17:56.24 | Intangir | bbl gonna goto lunch and try it out |
| 17:56.30 | leethal | oh, couldn't find it anywhere |
| 17:56.48 | cladhaire | that's how perfectraid is implemented. |
| 17:56.50 | cladhaire | just more complex. |
| 17:57.24 | leethal | that's weird, can't find any references to SecureGroupHeaderTemplate whatsoever |
| 17:57.29 | leethal | magic magic? |
| 18:01.07 | cladhaire | it uses the old version of the template |
| 18:01.13 | cladhaire | SecureRaidGroupHeaderTemplate |
| 18:01.14 | cladhaire | or whatever |
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| 18:01.48 | leethal | ah, right |
| 18:02.38 | mikma | Intangir: i'll continue testing when my friends stops raiding |
| 18:04.12 | leethal | gief book tbh :O |
| 18:04.23 | leethal | so hard to grok these things without having followed it throughout it's development |
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| 18:12.28 | cladhaire | lol |
| 18:12.40 | cladhaire | i can give you a sneak peek of the chapter, under conditions of course. |
| 18:13.38 | Cide | NDA! |
| 18:14.18 | leethal | :O |
| 18:15.44 | dylanm_ | Just think of what would happen if Iran got their hands on dis. |
| 18:18.40 | dylanm_ | http://www.wowinterface.com/forums/showthread.php?t=13931 |
| 18:18.43 | dylanm_ | lolz |
| 18:19.05 | kaiden|work | LOL |
| 18:19.24 | leethal | freind! |
| 18:20.13 | kaiden|work | oh man... the new dell xps warcraft branded laptops are hot |
| 18:20.16 | kaiden|work | i may have to get one |
| 18:20.45 | laindir | the only thing I can think of to suggest is to have his friend stand behind him with a microphone and swat him on the ear when he ought to turn |
| 18:21.03 | kaiden|work | laindir, he may have a quadriplegic friend |
| 18:21.07 | kaiden|work | who wants to experience the game |
| 18:21.11 | kaiden|work | that's the ONLY situation i can think of |
| 18:21.42 | laindir | there MUST be a simpler solution to that dilemma |
| 18:23.24 | zenzelezz | "my non player freind " <-- he has NPC friends? o_O |
| 18:23.33 | kadrahil | NPF |
| 18:23.54 | kadrahil | friends that don't play wow? :/ |
| 18:24.05 | laindir | no such thing! |
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| 18:27.47 | laindir | whew, that was close... thought I lost my layout-cache backup... just didn't copy over the new one the game wrote |
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| 18:29.40 | wereHamster | dylanm_, actually there is an application for that |
| 18:31.58 | leethal | how would you do <Frame name="V1" virtual="true"> in Lua? |
| 18:33.07 | wereHamster | you can't create virtual frames IIRC |
| 18:33.28 | wereHamster | you can only instantiate those |
| 18:35.15 | leethal | hmm |
| 18:44.59 | MentalPower | leethal: you can't do "real" virtual frames in Lua, but you can create a function that creates a new frame based on a definition |
| 18:45.26 | MentalPower | funtion() return CreateFrame("Frame") end |
| 18:45.41 | MentalPower | (of course with more than just the createframe() ) |
| 18:45.53 | leethal | I see |
| 18:46.13 | leethal | so that 'virtual' attribute isn't related to any of the frames properties, it's just an indication about it's, uhm, whatever it is? |
| 18:46.43 | art3mis | anyone know of any god cheap co-loc places in nyc? |
| 18:46.47 | art3mis | err good |
| 18:48.14 | MentalPower | leethal: a frame being declared virtual means that it can be used by other frame's Inherits property. A virtual frame is not created, and is not visible from Lua, its just a template that other frames can use. |
| 18:48.27 | leethal | ah, I see |
| 18:49.20 | mikma | meh, i'll paste these links here too: http://www.yle.fi/news/id76481.html and http://www.yle.fi/news/left/id76686.html |
| 18:49.36 | mikma | they messed up the cleanwater supply in the town of Nokia in Finland |
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| 18:51.45 | Jalaya | Hi |
| 18:51.48 | |Jelly| | ~sigh |
| 18:51.49 | purl | *sigh* |
| 18:51.56 | |Jelly| | The forums aren't working...again. |
| 18:52.28 | |Jelly| | Flushed DNS. Power cycled everything. Every computer on the network can't connect to them. :-\ |
| 18:54.09 | MentalPower | dig forums.worldofwarcraft.com |
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| 19:06.57 | cladhaire | anyoe have foxlit's email? |
| 19:07.07 | cladhaire | ~seen foxlit |
| 19:07.09 | purl | foxlit <n=foxlit@wnn73202.wireless.dtu.dk> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowi-lounge, 6h 2m 43s ago, saying: 'But does it come with a richard figurine?'. |
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| 19:08.33 | Valaron|Work | Hmm. |
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| 19:11.42 | Thunder_Child | ~log |
| 19:11.43 | purl | i guess log is as piece of wood, or a record, or the opposite of exponentiation |
| 19:11.45 | Thunder_Child | ~logs |
| 19:11.46 | purl | i heard logs is apt/ibot/infobot/jbot/purl all log daily to http://ibot.rikers.org/<channelname>/ where channelname is html encoded ie: %23debian | lines that start with a space are not shown | some channels have stats at http://ibot.rikers.org/stats/<channelname>.html.gz |
| 19:14.08 | Shirik | ~doesntwork |
| 19:14.08 | purl | Look buddy, doesn't work is a strong statement. Does it sit on the couch all day? Does it want more money? Is it on IRC all the time? Be specific! Examples of what doesn't work (or the URL) tend to help too, or pastebin the config if that's the problem |
| 19:16.35 | Kalroth | Shirik: That doesn't help me, it still doesn't work! |
| 19:17.44 | Rayne | do do do |
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| 19:18.39 | Shirik | Kalroth: Sorry that was not at you |
| 19:18.55 | Kalroth | I know |
| 19:19.16 | Rayne | Nitpick for me guys, what dont you like. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v442/SinOfDreams/WoWScrnShot_120607_020220.jpg |
| 19:20.11 | laindir | "Interface action failed because of an AddOn" |
| 19:20.28 | Shirik | lol |
| 19:20.32 | Rayne | I dont know whats causing that, everythings up to date. :/ |
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| 19:20.39 | Thunder_Child | Mr_Rabies2, is infobot just a renamed purl? |
| 19:21.23 | Rayne | I cant seem to notice anything, but since its mine Im going to be pretty biased at it <_< |
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| 19:22.56 | |Jelly| | Perhaps you should enable your taint log and see what's causing it? |
| 19:22.56 | Intangir | mikma: here in the US the dump industrial waste into our watersupply on purpose |
| 19:23.10 | Intangir | in the UK they dump anti depressants into the water supply on purpose |
| 19:23.16 | Intangir | ones that cause birth defects |
| 19:23.16 | Rayne | I should, but I always forget to in the middle of an instance |
| 19:23.35 | Rayne | that and I forgot the command for it...ill just find what sticky its in... |
| 19:24.00 | |Jelly| | Interface action failed because of an AddOn [Page: 1 . 2 . 3 . 4 . 5 . 6 . 7] <-- shouldn't be hard to find |
| 19:24.09 | laindir | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:24.10 | zenzelezz | so we're in phase 3 on Kael'thas, I'm chasing Thaladred (keeping up the magic debuff) and get feared through the door by Sanguinar... go to take a leak, and when I come back we're in phase 4 and I'm back inside. Yay for MC! |
| 19:24.26 | Intangir | Rayne: how does the omen window and the rest of the gui have the same style? |
| 19:25.20 | Rayne | you mean the bar colors? I changed them indiviually but it didnt work. I thought maybe If I had someone of every class in a group and I colored it that it would work, was wrong about that. |
| 19:25.28 | Rayne | I havent gotten around to resetting it yet |
| 19:25.56 | Mr_Rabies2 | <Thunder_Child> Mr_Rabies2, is infobot just a renamed purl? |
| 19:25.58 | Mr_Rabies2 | i do believe so |
| 19:26.12 | MentalPower | it si |
| 19:26.13 | MentalPower | is* |
| 19:26.21 | Thunder_Child | ah, ok, thanks |
| 19:26.36 | MentalPower | purl ran out of channels to join, so TimRiker made a copy |
| 19:27.22 | Rayne | I have a feeling its Prat causing the errors, or maybe pitbull |
| 19:27.30 | wereHamster | Rayne, I don't like the font |
| 19:28.16 | Rayne | :( |
| 19:28.18 | Rayne | I love that font |
| 19:28.37 | Rayne | I need to upload it for MSBT, actually |
| 19:30.49 | bleeter | awww, they're making the vendors on the boats go away? :'( |
| 19:31.05 | Rayne | are they? I hope not |
| 19:31.36 | bleeter | http://forums.wow-europe.com/thread.html?topicId=1905770654&postId=19052191740&sid=1#0 |
| 19:31.36 | Rayne | its nice having them |
| 19:31.52 | bleeter | speculation is that ppl have been crying about buyback upon zoning |
| 19:32.19 | wereHamster | why the need for a hotfix? |
| 19:32.35 | kaiden|work | that's so lame |
| 19:32.39 | bleeter | the other speculation is the limited supply stuff was re-appearing upon zoning |
| 19:32.40 | kaiden|work | i liked having those vendors |
| 19:32.45 | bleeter | aye |
| 19:32.57 | Rayne | I didnt know they had limited supply stuff O_o |
| 19:33.11 | bleeter | couple of scrolls, couple of pots.. nothing too thrilling |
| 19:33.15 | bleeter | iirc |
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| 19:35.53 | Rayne | Blizz just sucking fun out of the game again |
| 19:36.23 | wereHamster | first post on the second page seems a reasonable explanation |
| 19:36.23 | kaiden|work | bleeter, also why not just REMOVE the limited items then? |
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| 19:38.11 | laindir | Rayne, center bar is targettarget? |
| 19:38.14 | Intangir | anyone want to help test my addon? |
| 19:38.16 | Intangir | http://intangir.googlecode.com/files/BattlefieldLocator-r10.zip |
| 19:38.25 | Intangir | its a new version, should be bug free |
| 19:38.36 | Intangir | mikma: new version up |
| 19:38.47 | Intangir | i couldnt make it minimap NOT load. |
| 19:38.53 | Intangir | even when i told it never load |
| 19:38.55 | Intangir | it loads anyway |
| 19:38.59 | Rayne | laindir: yes |
| 19:39.24 | TecnoBrat | BTW, I am 90% sure there was a dupe bug with zoning and those NPCs |
| 19:39.35 | TecnoBrat | I heard a rumor about it the other day. |
| 19:39.41 | mikma | Intangir: how about trying to load the addon after PEW |
| 19:39.54 | TecnoBrat | If you sell items at the right time, and then zone .. or something like that |
| 19:39.58 | Intangir | im not trying to load it at all now |
| 19:40.05 | Intangir | i just wait for IF it loads, do the minimap specific stuff |
| 19:40.14 | Intangir | but i couldnt reproduce your test case |
| 19:40.23 | Intangir | so i cant test that i fixed the bug |
| 19:40.30 | Intangir | make sure you dont use your changed .toc |
| 19:41.15 | mikma | Intangir: i hid the battlefieldminimap, and reloaded ui = error |
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| 19:41.25 | Intangir | just now? |
| 19:41.32 | mikma | Intangir: before, not now |
| 19:41.40 | Intangir | oh, i well i tried to hide it and reload |
| 19:41.44 | Intangir | and when i reloaded it reshowed ;) |
| 19:41.48 | mikma | you need to be in party |
| 19:41.50 | Intangir | even thoug its set to "never show" still |
| 19:41.56 | Intangir | i was in a BG |
| 19:43.03 | mikma | it happened to me in both :I |
| 19:43.27 | mikma | Intangir: not sure will it affect anything but i had BaudMap loaded too |
| 19:43.40 | bleeter | wereHamster, TecnoBrat: both sound plausible.. tho it'd be nice if they left an NPC on there who's sole purpose was repair. but I guess if there were dupe purchasing probs, repairs might've been buggish too. |
| 19:52.34 | Intangir | mikma: hey |
| 19:53.20 | mikma | Intangir: moo. |
| 19:55.38 | mikma | Intangir: atleast i ain't getting errors now |
| 19:56.26 | Intangir | mikma: cool |
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| 19:59.18 | zenzelezz | Kael down, finally |
| 19:59.27 | Intangir | grats |
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| 20:00.31 | Intangir | you vanish |
| 20:00.35 | Intangir | *smoke appears* |
| 20:00.37 | Intangir | vanish fails.. |
| 20:00.40 | Intangir | prep.. |
| 20:00.45 | Intangir | vanish *smoke appears* |
| 20:00.47 | Intangir | vanish fails |
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| 20:03.37 | malreth | Intangir: you need to focus your chakra |
| 20:04.26 | Intangir | hrmmm |
| 20:04.45 | Intangir | and how should i do that? complain to blizzard? ;) |
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| 20:05.08 | malreth | eat more fish sausage |
| 20:05.15 | Intangir | fish sausage? |
| 20:05.24 | Intangir | never heard of fish and sausage in the same sentance |
| 20:05.54 | bleeter | mmm fish sossies |
| 20:07.39 | Thunder_Child | well that would be fish stuffed in an intestine and cooked |
| 20:07.53 | malreth | cooking is optional... but HIGHLY recommended |
| 20:08.08 | Thunder_Child | quite close to Gefilte fish |
| 20:15.50 | malreth | meat is murder... tasty tasty murder |
| 20:17.12 | cncfanatics | Thunder_Child ! hello :) :p my favo person to spam :p |
| 20:17.29 | Thunder_Child | cncfanatics, any particular reason? |
| 20:17.41 | cncfanatics | the fact you are particularly anoyed with it :p |
| 20:17.54 | cncfanatics | and, I'm bored |
| 20:17.59 | Thunder_Child | not really....unless your talking about emotes |
| 20:18.13 | cncfanatics | :p:);):p:d |
| 20:18.22 | Thunder_Child | ~lart cncfanatics |
| 20:18.22 | purl | does a little 'dpkg -P cncfanatics' action |
| 20:18.26 | Thunder_Child | ~infobot |
| 20:18.27 | purl | extra, extra, read all about it, infobot is a vampire, or an idiot, or a liar, or a harbinger of peanut butter jelly time |
| 20:18.35 | Thunder_Child | lol |
| 20:18.40 | |Jelly| | Purl, don't ping me! |
| 20:19.06 | ecstasia | hehe |
| 20:25.38 | cncfanatics | dpkg -P :( |
| 20:25.40 | cncfanatics | boooo |
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| 20:25.52 | cncfanatics | at least apt-get remove me if u want to do anything at all ! |
| 20:26.00 | Intangir | dont ping me bro? |
| 20:34.26 | Intangir | ok im freaking bored |
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| 20:52.11 | Rayne | yeah its Pitbull giving me the error |
| 20:52.35 | Pandya | whats it saying |
| 20:52.44 | Pandya | I get a pitbull error on starting it too |
| 20:53.08 | Rayne | Mines giving me the 'failed because of an addon message' when someone leaves party, joins it, or dies. |
| 20:53.19 | Pandya | ooo I never had that |
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| 20:53.44 | Pandya | I get "attempt to index field (background) a nil value" |
| 20:54.03 | laindir | he means a blocked action, not a popup lua error |
| 20:54.23 | Pandya | I know what he means |
| 20:54.35 | Pandya | I've seen the same error as well, just not with pitbull |
| 20:54.41 | Rayne | I could use a nap @_@ |
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| 20:55.00 | laindir | mkay, just that "nil value" falls into a different camp... I got confused |
| 20:55.55 | Taeri | Um, I'm gonna throw a Windows XP question at you guys now... You know how it groups items of the same type, and then later, when your taskbar is getting full, it does some magic, making all the elements of a type ( e.g MSN windows) into a "drop down menu" |
| 20:56.12 | Taeri | how do I make it do that last part, whenever there's 2 or more windows of the same type open? |
| 20:56.25 | Taeri | I know it's something funky in the regedit thing, but I can't remember how I did it. |
| 20:58.32 | Taeri | found it! |
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| 21:06.54 | |Jelly| | http://icanhascheezburger.files.wordpress.com/2007/12/funny-pictures-static-kitten.jpg |
| 21:07.18 | laindir | jelly, lol |
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| 21:10.29 | Taeri | Is there a WoW UI graphics site out there? :p |
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| 21:11.00 | cog|work | WTF is wrong with some people!!?!?! http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info7599-UIMacrosToC.html#cmnt57320 |
| 21:13.23 | Lunessa | cog|work: He's never taken an IQ test. This * is to ( as ) is to what? |
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| 21:13.49 | cog|work | ah yes... sometimes I forget that people in the world simply do not comprehend analogies |
| 21:14.31 | cog|work | I've never taken a "real" IQ test but i'm always pretty high up there on those 15 minute freebies but pay us $40 to find out what you got wrong things... |
| 21:15.10 | Saint-N | hey cog |
| 21:15.18 | Saint-N | can you msg me cairenns cell number? |
| 21:15.38 | Saint-N | or anyone? |
| 21:15.48 | zenzelezz | what for? :-o |
| 21:15.48 | malreth | NO U CAN NOT HAS FONESECKS WIF CAIRENN |
| 21:15.52 | Lunessa | Taeri: http://www.wowtextures.com/ |
| 21:16.14 | Saint-N | nm |
| 21:16.30 | zenzelezz | she should be back tomorrow anyway, if it's not instant |
| 21:16.46 | Saint-N | shes in nyc we're supposed to meet |
| 21:16.53 | Saint-N | hehe wanted to make sure i had it right |
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| 21:19.12 | malreth | someone here made christmas decorations out of actual peppermint candies... i tried to lick one but they're coated with ick |
| 21:21.32 | batrick | chinese probably made them |
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| 21:23.38 | MentalPower | I'm out to fix a friend's PC, bbl |
| 21:25.44 | Taeri | That texture site sort of fails to let me see the large versions of things 0.o |
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| 21:32.10 | Shirik|AFK | http://games.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=07/12/06/1312254 |
| 21:33.25 | Shirik | this totally makes me feel not so bad about that one time that I did "rm -rf ./ *" instead of "rm -rf ./*" as root |
| 21:33.40 | Taeri | ... I had latency of 1337 >__> |
| 21:36.43 | Shirik | wtf is this |
| 21:36.57 | Shirik | ACK, SYN, ACK, SYN/ACK, ACK |
| 21:37.04 | Shirik | since when is the TCP handshake 5 step o.o |
| 21:38.12 | Saint-N | shirik: since web 2.0 ;) |
| 21:38.14 | wereHamster | isn't that the comcast way to establish a tcp connection? |
| 21:38.22 | Saint-N | we call it GTCP |
| 21:38.26 | Shirik | wereHamster: I don't know where this connection came from :P |
| 21:38.28 | Shirik | GTCP? |
| 21:38.29 | Saint-N | the G stands for Ghetto |
| 21:38.31 | Shirik | lol |
| 21:38.48 | Saint-N | *picture two G's shaking hands* ;) |
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| 21:39.58 | malreth | nerrrrrrrrrrrd humor |
| 21:44.18 | Intangir | !c us mug'thol Intangir |
| 21:46.09 | Intangir | the bot sure is slow lately |
| 21:46.23 | batrick | !g mug'thol intangir |
| 21:46.24 | batbot | batrick: WoW Forums -> Ashes, PvP guild (horde/Mug'thol) LFM PvPers <http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html;jsessionid=FB6DFA95828B0B4EDD32E2B86E284800?topicId=443187533&sid=1> |
| 21:46.27 | batrick | batbot winz |
| 21:46.33 | batrick | bah |
| 21:46.37 | batrick | !g mug'thol intangir arena |
| 21:46.38 | batbot | batrick: WoW Forums -> Ashes, PvP guild (horde/Mug'thol) LFM PvPers <http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html;jsessionid=FB6DFA95828B0B4EDD32E2B86E284800?topicId=443187533&sid=1> |
| 21:46.44 | batrick | google blows |
| 21:47.01 | batrick | !g mug'thol intangir site:wowarmory.com |
| 21:47.02 | batbot | batrick: The World of Warcraft Armory <http://www.wowarmory.com/character-talents.xml?r=Mug'thol&n=Intangir> |
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| 21:50.19 | cog|work | Lunessa: edited my response ;) |
| 21:51.06 | Rayne | O_o |
| 21:52.34 | Lunessa | cog|work: haha. This is why I don't discuss politics on the inter-tubes. because politics is the new religion. |
| 21:52.54 | Lunessa | And that guy? He's their prophet. |
| 21:52.57 | malreth | cog|work: what do you have against Richard Nixon? F U! |
| 21:53.16 | cog|work | malreth: NO U! |
| 21:55.22 | cog|work | >1 |
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| 21:55.32 | cog|work | [13:56]And that guy? He's their prophet. |
| 21:55.34 | cog|work | <malreth>cog|work: what do you have against Richard Nixon? F U! |
| 21:55.35 | cog|work | <cog|work>malreth: NO U! |
| 21:55.37 | cog|work | * malrethF himself |
| 21:55.38 | cog|work | [13:58]finish and make mess on cog|work |
| 21:55.39 | Drea|n00b|AFk | Hey guys |
| 21:55.40 | cog|work | is disappointed... only 1 minute |
| 21:55.41 | cog|work | <cog|work>>1 |
| 21:55.43 | cog|work | see? |
| 21:55.50 | cog|work | ~nickometer Drea|n00b|AFk |
| 21:55.54 | cog|work | :P |
| 21:56.12 | malreth | ~nickometer cog|work |
| 21:56.14 | Drea | Thanks for seein me clear on that Cog |
| 21:56.33 | cogwheel | so teher |
| 21:56.56 | cogwheel | Get back to the end, you stupid e! |
| 21:57.06 | cogwheel | so there |
| 21:57.13 | Drea | those e's are always forgetting their place |
| 21:57.39 | malreth | was it the cookie? |
| 21:58.14 | Lunessa | ... I think malreth has been making special THC cookies. |
| 21:58.15 | cogwheel | no. wasn't the cookie |
| 21:58.47 | Drea | fingers movin faster than the brain? |
| 21:58.56 | cogwheel | cross between work, book, and that fucktard commenter :P |
| 21:59.41 | cogwheel | and the fact that i cna't tpye |
| 21:59.45 | Rayne | cant...stop....yawning! |
| 21:59.50 | Drea | dang, i'm a fucktard? |
| 21:59.52 | cogwheel | which is required for all three |
| 22:00.03 | cladhaire | Any XSLT experts in the crowdy? |
| 22:00.04 | cogwheel | Drea: no... |
| 22:00.05 | cladhaire | crowd |
| 22:00.07 | Drea | lol |
| 22:00.22 | cogwheel | Drea: unless you also go by Sinbad... |
| 22:00.24 | cogwheel | http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info7599-UIMacrosToC.html#cmnt57320 |
| 22:00.25 | Drea | figured you were commenting on my comment laden files. lol |
| 22:01.12 | cogwheel | I generally don't call people in this channel fucktards... :P |
| 22:01.15 | Drea | hmm. why avoid offending anyone? |
| 22:01.50 | malreth | good philosophy! |
| 22:02.22 | malreth | http://sinfest.net/comikaze/comics/2007-12-06.gif |
| 22:02.29 | Drea | is there a rule somewhere that says we're not supposed to offend anyone? might as well slit all our own throats. can't hardly walk down the street these days without offending someone |
| 22:02.42 | cogwheel | Drea: can't slit your throat |
| 22:02.47 | cladhaire | in this channel you will avoid offending people. |
| 22:02.47 | cogwheel | that offends people too |
| 22:02.51 | Drea | see! |
| 22:02.53 | cladhaire | ;-) |
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| 22:03.06 | Drea | Yes Sir Mr. Cladhaire. :-D |
| 22:03.10 | cladhaire | in Soviet Russia, the channel offends you!!! |
| 22:03.26 | malreth | kamdis: my hookers have stopped complaining |
| 22:03.37 | cladhaire | i'm offended by your mentino of hookers |
| 22:03.39 | cladhaire | cause i dont have any |
| 22:03.41 | cogwheel | O.o |
| 22:03.43 | amro__ | I need some sleep |
| 22:03.43 | kamdis | malreth: you're welcome |
| 22:03.59 | Drea | whats yer address Clad? |
| 22:04.01 | Rayne | Yay I killed the Post your UI thread with Dinosaur ascii! :D |
| 22:04.02 | cladhaire | woot |
| 22:04.03 | cladhaire | england |
| 22:04.06 | cladhaire | i'm the house on the right! |
| 22:04.11 | kamdis | Rayne: that's why I logged on |
| 22:04.21 | kamdis | To tell you *cheer* |
| 22:04.24 | Drea | i'll just have em come right in keep the door open. |
| 22:04.28 | Rayne | kamdis: :D |
| 22:04.30 | cladhaire | k k k |
| 22:04.33 | cladhaire | not racist, k? |
| 22:04.49 | kamdis | Rayne: I got weird looks from co-workers when I broke up laughing |
| 22:05.15 | Drea | augh, well i suppose i outta get to work. |
| 22:05.22 | kamdis | One would think they'd have stopped giving me weird looks for randomly laughing by now, but apparently it's still "weird" |
| 22:05.45 | cogwheel | Rayne/kamdis u link plx |
| 22:05.47 | Rayne | kamdis: /pat |
| 22:06.12 | Rayne | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=3168360275&sid=1&pageNo=18#347 |
| 22:06.16 | Rayne | start there and work down |
| 22:06.43 | malreth | dear gods... now people are looking at me laughing |
| 22:06.49 | malreth | that dino is epix |
| 22:07.55 | malreth | i can't close the browser window... |
| 22:08.00 | malreth | i start laughing too hard |
| 22:08.08 | malreth | i've had to switch to a different space |
| 22:08.33 | malreth | Rayne! you've render space #1 useless for me! |
| 22:08.49 | Rayne | malreth: I do consider myself a hero now and then |
| 22:09.07 | malreth | now i'm stuck in space 3... |
| 22:09.37 | malreth | i left something open over in space 4 weeks ago... it's probably rotten by now and smelling of something vile |
| 22:09.46 | malreth | at least i have irc |
| 22:10.38 | kamdis | or do you? |
| 22:10.47 | Rayne | oh, I do. |
| 22:11.07 | Drea | or do you? that's such a good phrase. |
| 22:11.52 | malreth | kamdis: treating Rayne like my hookers? |
| 22:12.03 | kamdis | worse, much worse |
| 22:12.07 | kamdis | He likes it. |
| 22:12.14 | Rayne | love it |
| 22:12.16 | Xuerian | Bahaha. |
| 22:12.20 | Rayne | especially getting throat punched |
| 22:12.29 | Xuerian | Nice ansi XD |
| 22:12.37 | kamdis | But it doesn't *really* hurt, I mean, I'm a girl. |
| 22:12.48 | |Jelly| | HEY NOW |
| 22:12.48 | Drea | Hey Cladhaire, could i have a few moments of your time? |
| 22:12.53 | Rayne | ~throatpunch |
| 22:12.54 | purl | ACTION punches rayne in the throat. |
| 22:13.08 | malreth | i wonder why $who lowercases the nick... |
| 22:13.12 | Rayne | JELLY HAS TOTALLY MISSED ON THIS CONVO |
| 22:13.16 | Xuerian | s/ansi/ascii <-- sleep deprived/ |
| 22:13.17 | kamdis | Oh HAI |Jelly| |
| 22:13.22 | |Jelly| | ... |
| 22:13.32 | Valaron|Work | dot dot dot |
| 22:13.33 | Rayne | |Jelly| <3 |
| 22:13.40 | |Jelly| | DASH DASH DASH |
| 22:13.41 | malreth | ~literal throatpunch |
| 22:13.41 | purl | "throatpunch" is "<action> punches $who in the throat." |
| 22:13.43 | kamdis | |Jelly| <33333333333333333 |
| 22:13.44 | Drea | As far as i can see it, Jelly useually comes in at the end. lol |
| 22:14.00 | |Jelly| | Drea: Who are you again? :\ |
| 22:14.02 | Rayne | rofl XD |
| 22:14.27 | Rayne | god I love being a thread killer / winner |
| 22:14.27 | kamdis | ~throatpunch Rayne |
| 22:14.35 | kamdis | hrm |
| 22:14.47 | malreth | hmm... that's not supposed to happen |
| 22:15.11 | Rayne | :( |
| 22:15.23 | Drea | Oh i'm the resident n00b jelly, not attempting to offend or anything, Clad said that's a rule. :D |
| 22:15.41 | kamdis | do or do not, there is no attempt |
| 22:15.42 | malreth | actually, yeah... is there a dollar variable that references the arguments after a command? |
| 22:16.05 | malreth | so that throatpunch foo would really work? |
| 22:16.29 | kamdis | and Drea, I'd go with offending ;-) |
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| 22:16.39 | Drea | Just makin an observation that u usally come in at the end of conversations Jelly |
| 22:16.54 | malreth | blootbot's help files didn't mention much and i tried to read the script but... yeah... it's in perl |
| 22:16.54 | kamdis | he just usually pipes up at the end of conversations |
| 22:17.12 | |Jelly| | I read the whole thing. Next time, I'll say "hi" just for you. |
| 22:17.36 | Drea | kamdis: the amount of help i get in here. I would hate to offend anyone. :) |
| 22:17.56 | Lunessa | I'm offended that no one is trying to offend me. |
| 22:18.01 | Drea | |Jelly|: Awww, thanks! That's awfully nice of you. no need to go to that much trouble for me. :D |
| 22:18.09 | Xuerian | I'm offended at your face. |
| 22:18.16 | Xuerian | Feel better? |
| 22:18.39 | Drea | mal could that be counted as a reverse teabag? |
| 22:18.40 | Lunessa | My face is offensive, true. |
| 22:18.42 | Rayne | :O |
| 22:19.32 | Drea | I figure if yer gonna figure new ways of offending someone ya outta name em. |
| 22:20.32 | malreth | ah... later... it's bus time |
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| 22:22.21 | Rayne | No ones posted yet after my ascii XD |
| 22:22.34 | Drea | they know better. |
| 22:22.35 | Drea | :D |
| 22:24.46 | kamdis | there |
| 22:24.51 | kamdis | posted, just for you Rayne |
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| 22:28.51 | Antiarc | "CCP Games recently released an expansion for their MMORPG Eve Online containing new premium graphics content. However, the installer was programmed to delete C:/boot.ini, making it impossible to reboot without manually repairing your Windows XP installation." |
| 22:28.52 | Antiarc | ............. |
| 22:29.08 | Industrial | LOL |
| 22:30.49 | Lunessa | lol |
| 22:31.07 | Shirik | !ap 1592 |
| 22:31.07 | ThraeBot | Shirik: Arena points from a rating of 1592 is, 2v2: 345, 3v3: 400, 5v5: 454 |
| 22:31.18 | Shirik | !ap 1600 |
| 22:31.18 | ThraeBot | Shirik: Arena points from a rating of 1600 is, 2v2: 353, 3v3: 409, 5v5: 465 |
| 22:32.02 | Rayne | kamdis: breakin mah heart :< |
| 22:32.26 | Intangir | !c us mug'thol Intangir |
| 22:32.27 | ThraeBot | Intangir: Intangir is not the character you are looking for! |
| 22:32.32 | Intangir | !c us mug'thol Intangir |
| 22:32.32 | ThraeBot | Intangir: I just said that 6s ago. |
| 22:32.38 | Intangir | grrr.. |
| 22:32.49 | Intangir | !c us mug'thol Intangir |
| 22:32.50 | ThraeBot | Intangir: I just said that 23s ago. |
| 22:32.58 | Intangir | grrrrrr.... |
| 22:33.03 | foxlit | oh |
| 22:33.04 | foxlit | hi |
| 22:33.08 | foxlit | I almost wrote that :P |
| 22:33.21 | Intangir | wrote what? |
| 22:33.34 | foxlit | Code that tells you to go stuff it if you're repeating a query you asked recently |
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| 22:33.47 | foxlit | If I recall correctly, it increases the timeout if you ask it within the timeout almost exponentially |
| 22:33.57 | foxlit | Hit it a few times, and you're prevented from touching it for a while :P |
| 22:34.09 | Intangir | what if the 'answer' it gave you was a joke non-answer |
| 22:34.25 | foxlit | That's a "armory told you to get stuffed" reply |
| 22:34.42 | Intangir | i thought that was just a joke flair answer ;) |
| 22:34.55 | Intangir | doesnt check armory my guess |
| 22:34.57 | Shirik | Antiarc: Of course, you know |
| 22:34.59 | Intangir | !c us mug'thol Intangir |
| 22:35.00 | ThraeBot | Intangir: Intangir is not the character you are looking for! |
| 22:35.02 | Shirik | I linked that too...but people ignored me |
| 22:35.06 | Intangir | damn it |
| 22:35.20 | Antiarc | Shirik|zZz: Don't you wish your links were hot like mine. |
| 22:35.20 | foxlit | I also cache that response :P |
| 22:35.24 | foxlit | Thrae may have fixed that, of course |
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| 22:42.04 | kamdis | Antiarc did you see the screenshot of the Eve warning screen? |
| 22:42.09 | Antiarc | no |
| 22:42.20 | kamdis | http://toric.loungenet.org/~doug/pictures/non-series/donotreboot.png |
| 22:44.36 | Rayne | IM SO GLAD I STOPPED PLAYING EVE SOOOO LONG AGOG |
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| 22:56.34 | Xuerian | gg \ |
| 22:57.02 | Xuerian | Looks damn shiny now though :) |
| 22:57.39 | Saint-N | woooo! |
| 22:57.46 | Saint-N | figured a way around all my problems |
| 22:58.03 | Saint-N | and it gets another company to pay for business service into my house |
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| 23:08.08 | Drea | is Cladhaire in here right now watching? |
| 23:08.24 | dylanm_ | He's always... watching... |
| 23:09.06 | cladhaire | indeed. |
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| 23:10.51 | Cide | BEWARE |
| 23:10.58 | Cide | or I'll link you PIL |
| 23:11.03 | Rayne | O_o |
| 23:11.06 | cladhaire | lol |
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| 23:13.39 | Intangir | !c us mug'thol Intangir |
| 23:13.42 | ThraeBot | Intangir: Intangir, Level 70 Undead Rogue (25/0/36). 11104 HP; +10 Energy; 3663 Armour; 1517 AP; 314.100 Melee DPS; 30.84% melee crit; 54 melee hit; 23.96% dodge; 422 resilience; 10 shadow resist (+10);[[ TBR: 1254 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/yqghuv ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/32v35d ][ Updated: Thu Dec 6 18:14:36 2007 EST ]] |
| 23:14.05 | Intangir | im sure thats broke again ;) |
| 23:14.49 | alestane | Okay, I'n gonna throw this out for general inquiry...yesterday my mod Demonomicon was at about 4,600 downloads on WoWInterface. |
| 23:14.59 | alestane | Today it's at 21,468 downloads. |
| 23:15.23 | Xuerian | o_0 |
| 23:15.34 | alestane | Not one of these people left a comment or designated a favorite, and my views count didn't appear to go up significatnly. |
| 23:15.37 | alestane | WTF? |
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| 23:15.48 | Kelfarr | uh oh |
| 23:16.04 | Kelfarr | if I try to logonto the forums it says invalid password |
| 23:16.06 | Intangir | weird |
| 23:16.47 | Kelfarr | oh good its just the forums |
| 23:16.52 | Kelfarr | tried wow and i am not hacked |
| 23:17.05 | alestane | Is someone stealing WoWI's bandwidth? Has a direct link been added into some chinese add-on repository? Was it some kind of hacker attack on WoWI? Or is it just a bug in the server? |
| 23:17.20 | alestane | Kelfarr: try closing your browser tab and reloading the forums. |
| 23:18.40 | kamdis | Hi alestane |
| 23:18.47 | alestane | Kamdis! |
| 23:19.47 | Drea | LOL. well Cladhaire, I was wondering. U know i'm makin that leveling guide, and that i was going to implement something much the same as TomTom |
| 23:20.01 | cladhaire | ok |
| 23:20.28 | Drea | would you be averse me including TomTom, and making it a dependancy, and using it instead of rewriting it? |
| 23:20.36 | cladhaire | is it being sold? |
| 23:21.11 | Drea | Access to the website is bein sold, where they'll be able to download and use the leveling guide. |
| 23:21.18 | cladhaire | then i would prefer you did not. |
| 23:21.35 | cladhaire | i would rather support the free guides that exist, are implemented, and released. |
| 23:21.36 | foxlit | Drea: it's easier for you to provide a reference to where to find TomTom anyway |
| 23:21.42 | Drea | then i shall attempt to rewrite it. Thanks! |
| 23:21.51 | Shirik|zZz | cladhaire as open source ftw? |
| 23:21.58 | cladhaire | Shirik|zZz: ? |
| 23:22.05 | Drea | and i'd rather have your permission to use it. |
| 23:22.05 | Shirik|zZz | free software movement :) |
| 23:22.13 | Shirik|zZz | <3 you |
| 23:22.22 | foxlit | Since that has the added benefit of lazyness: you don't have to keep track of TomTom updates |
| 23:22.35 | cladhaire | Shirik|zZz: i dont' like the FSF |
| 23:22.44 | cladhaire | Shirik|zZz: Or their licenses |
| 23:22.52 | zenzelezz | I have an issue with RMS |
| 23:23.04 | cladhaire | but I don't like people doing a shitty job implementing something that won't ever be as good as Tourguide |
| 23:23.13 | cladhaire | for example |
| 23:23.25 | Shirik|zZz | heh, fair enough |
| 23:23.48 | Shirik|zZz | I think I asked this a while ago and didn't get a response iirc, so I'll ask again. Anyone here have experience with QNX? |
| 23:24.19 | alestane | So I take it no-one else has noticed explosive downloading of their mods on WoWI in the last 24 hours? |
| 23:24.29 | Drea | would that be an acceptable solution? tell people that it would be beneficial to use tomtom as a helper and give them a link? and make it optional? |
| 23:24.47 | JoshBorke | Shirik|zZz: nope, but i installed it once :-) |
| 23:24.49 | cladhaire | if its not packaged, that's fine by me |
| 23:24.57 | cladhaire | but i'm an asshole |
| 23:25.03 | JoshBorke | cladhaire: yes, yes you are |
| 23:25.04 | Shirik|zZz | I just need to know if it's worth trying |
| 23:25.11 | JoshBorke | for what? |
| 23:25.13 | cladhaire | and if stupid users come tpo me with questions that aren't about my addons |
| 23:25.15 | cladhaire | they'll get a rude response :P |
| 23:25.31 | Drea | ok. thanks then. just for your info, this is version one. and version two is gonna be bit different. |
| 23:25.34 | Shirik|zZz | A bot that I'm working on with my IEEE group. We got our PC-104 board in yesterday and we need to try out a few OSes |
| 23:25.49 | JoshBorke | never used it for embedded stuff |
| 23:26.19 | Shirik|zZz | So far we've got on our plate Linux, VxWorks, Windows XP, and I'm now suggesting QNX based on a recommendation from someone else |
| 23:26.29 | Shirik|zZz | whomever recommended Windows XP should be shot, but we have to try it :/ |
| 23:27.10 | Drea | i've got big plans for the next version, but that's a ways out yet.. |
| 23:27.32 | alestane | Anyone know a reason why Disenchant is protected but Enchanting is not? |
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| 23:29.09 | Shirik|Ghost | (18:28:05) (+Shirik|zZz) because people will abuse disenchant |
| 23:29.11 | Shirik|Ghost | (18:28:10) (+Shirik|zZz) write malicious scripts |
| 23:29.21 | Shirik|Ghost | (18:28:19) (+Shirik|zZz) that's my guess at least |
| 23:29.25 | Shirik|Ghost | grr |
| 23:29.26 | ScytheBlade1 | alestane: "Enchanting" is technically just a thing that brings up the actual enchanting window... I would imagine that the actual process of clicking the "Enchant" button is protected |
| 23:29.27 | Shirik|Ghost | freenode hates me right now |
| 23:29.48 | alestane | No, you can cast trade/craft skills from scripts. |
| 23:30.06 | ScytheBlade1 | That sounds odd to me. |
| 23:30.06 | zenzelezz | alestane: imagine an addon with a "sharded by remote" backdoor |
| 23:30.39 | Shirik | it's been done before |
| 23:30.45 | Shirik | Veni's version of RDX had it for a while, until it went public |
| 23:31.09 | Shirik | so it must have been protected relatively recently |
| 23:31.27 | alestane | Can't you still write an addon that sells all someone's stuff when they hit a vendor? |
| 23:31.35 | ScytheBlade1 | Yes |
| 23:31.38 | Shirik | you could just buy it back |
| 23:31.41 | ScytheBlade1 | And that buys stuff |
| 23:31.46 | Shirik | you can't unshard |
| 23:32.45 | Wobwork | Shirik: You could buy it back... if you realised it was sold |
| 23:32.59 | Shirik | walking around nekkid isn't sign enough? :P |
| 23:33.09 | Wobwork | if you have an auto repair mod, you may not realise the money noise isn't from the repairs |
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| 23:33.20 | Wobwork | Shirik: What. Observant people? |
| 23:33.33 | Wobwork | I do instances in my riding gear all the time =P |
| 23:33.34 | Shirik | If you can't tell that you're naked you don't deserve to be playing anyway :P |
| 23:33.38 | Shirik | ok |
| 23:33.40 | Shirik | Wobwork fails |
| 23:33.40 | Wobwork | cause Closet Gnome gets stuck |
| 23:34.25 | mikma | Intangir: haven't seen any other problems than the alpha-reset (which is not up to you) |
| 23:34.34 | mikma | Intangir: but fixing this bug would be hot ;) |
| 23:36.05 | alestane | Especially since DE has a cast time, I think it's actually much easier to notice and stop than selling things. |
| 23:36.31 | Codayus | Selling wands, trinkets, rings, neck, etc., would be less noticable. |
| 23:37.27 | Codayus | For bonus points, you'd want to try to scan the inventory for a grey item, and make sure that gets sold last, so the buyback slot doesn't give it away. |
| 23:38.43 | Codayus | Hmm, I don't think you can socket gems programmatically; that'd be a really devious way to screw people. |
| 23:39.35 | Shirik | Don't get me wrong |
| 23:39.42 | Shirik | there are a lot of ways that you can "screw people over" with an addon |
| 23:39.44 | Shirik | a lot. |
| 23:40.08 | Shirik | But suffice it to say, disenchanting is probably one of the most severe, and Blizzard rightfully decided to do something about it, imo |
| 23:40.21 | Codayus | Hmm. |
| 23:40.45 | Wobwork | well... same with just junking the item |
| 23:40.55 | Wobwork | but with disenchanting, you at least get a shard =) |
| 23:41.07 | Codayus | Ooh, I know. Introduce a moderate positive bias in all observed HP totals during boss fights. |
| 23:41.09 | foxlit | Meh |
| 23:41.11 | Wobwork | but that was probably locked down much earlier |
| 23:41.14 | Codayus | (On players.) |
| 23:41.15 | foxlit | Just remap the tooltips/icons in the default UI |
| 23:41.20 | foxlit | There we go, user digs their own grave |
| 23:41.25 | foxlit | No security is going to save that :P |
| 23:41.30 | alestane | Does a button still release a click if you have an item loaded on the cursor? |
| 23:41.46 | alestane | s/release/receive |
| 23:42.11 | foxlit | Very likely |
| 23:42.16 | Intangir | mikma: i suppose it would be easy enough |
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| 23:44.35 | Lunessa | Shirik: QNX like, the IBM pc clone of UNIX .. from like, '85? |
| 23:44.57 | Shirik | No clue if that's how far it goes back |
| 23:44.57 | Shirik | all I know is that it's an open-source RTOS |
| 23:45.21 | Lunessa | I ran a 26 terminal network off an XT in 85 using QNX - but haven't touched it since. |
| 23:46.13 | Shirik | I assume that it's a bit improved since '85 :P |
| 23:46.19 | Shirik | Gah I wasn't even born in '85 >< |
| 23:46.58 | JoshBorke | ... |
| 23:47.12 | JoshBorke | man you're young |
| 23:47.42 | Shirik | I'm 20... |
| 23:47.51 | NightHawkTheSane | Like he said. |
| 23:48.02 | laindir | I'd go out on a limb and say the median age in the channel is probably under 25 |
| 23:48.08 | alestane | Anyone here also active on the EU forums? |
| 23:48.17 | Shirik | anyway night |
| 23:48.25 | Shirik|zZz | ns identify |
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| 23:49.44 | Lunessa | Approach Shirik|zZz and Identify. |
| 23:50.00 | laindir | lunessa, hehe |
| 23:50.05 | Lunessa | Last Day, Capricorn 2025 |
| 23:50.18 | Shirik|zZz | ? |
| 23:50.26 | Lunessa | Logsan's Run |
| 23:50.29 | Shirik|zZz | what's that? |
| 23:50.33 | laindir | -.- |
| 23:50.52 | Lunessa | http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0074812/ |
| 23:50.52 | Shirik|zZz | and how do you know my birthdate? |
| 23:51.46 | Lunessa | I was just 'semi-quoting' the movie. Capricorn is the one repeated most often in the Arcade scene. |
| 23:51.50 | Shirik|zZz | oh... |
| 23:51.59 | Shirik|zZz | because my birthdate /is/ the last day of capricorn :/ |
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| 23:52.30 | Cide | hahaha, that's awesome |
| 23:53.09 | Shirik|zZz | well, I should take that back |
| 23:53.19 | Shirik|zZz | the zodaic confuses me, it moves |
| 23:53.34 | laindir | shirik: just like everything else |
| 23:53.50 | Shirik|zZz | some say january 20 is the last day of capricorn, some say it's the first of aquarius |
| 23:53.53 | Shirik|zZz | so I just consider myself both |
| 23:54.14 | alestane | Depends on the year. |
| 23:54.49 | Shirik|zZz | yes that's the problem :P |
| 23:55.06 | alestane | You're on what's called the "cusp". |
| 23:55.14 | NightHawkTheSane | blame precession |
| 23:56.00 | Shirik|zZz | hahaha I love this program that showed up on google |
| 23:56.01 | Shirik|zZz | "Baby Gender Calculator is software that is used to determine periods with increased probability of conceiving a baby boy or a baby girl for a particular parents couple. Basis for this calculation are the birth date data of both parents" |
| 23:56.21 | Shirik|zZz | Except the female parent has ZERO determining factor in what gender the child is |
| 23:56.24 | Shirik|zZz | it's entirely the male |
| 23:56.40 | Shirik|zZz | And it's not even freeware, ha |
| 23:57.49 | laindir | unless there's some unknown (to us) factor affecting the hospitability of the uterus toward sperm with a y chromosome |
| 23:58.06 | Shirik|zZz | the egg starts running away |
| 23:58.08 | Shirik|zZz | haha |
| 23:59.10 | Lunessa | All I can say is bless the uterus for being hospitable to sperm on occasion, and specifically to those possessors of uteri for allowing me to occasionally make deposits. |
