| 00:01.00 | Drea | OK, so i have a checkbox, which is created dynamically, in the lua. i want to change a value in a table, when it is checked. |
| 00:01.14 | art3mis | wow |
| 00:01.21 | Drea | wow? |
| 00:01.26 | art3mis | i never realized what a huge difference it is between digital and analog video res |
| 00:01.32 | Drea | oh. lol |
| 00:01.41 | Drea | phew thought u were talkin bout my problem. lol |
| 00:01.41 | art3mis | swapped to analog after using digital the last 2 years so my kvm would work |
| 00:01.50 | art3mis | and it looks all "fuzzy" |
| 00:01.53 | art3mis | and dull |
| 00:02.15 | art3mis | i think OnCheck is whatcha want btw |
| 00:02.30 | art3mis | in the xml you'd merely call the toggle |
| 00:02.37 | art3mis | for when it's changed |
| 00:02.44 | Drea | so checkbutton:RegisterForClicks("OnCheck")? |
| 00:02.47 | art3mis | dont ask for direct code but thats the general idear |
| 00:03.00 | art3mis | one sec |
| 00:03.08 | Drea | lol. right on. i'm searchin thru the api right now |
| 00:03.23 | JoshBorke | Drea: you'll need to set the OnClick script of teh checkbutton |
| 00:04.04 | Drea | OK, THanks Josh, i'll look into it later. just realized i gotta make dinner for the munchkin |
| 00:04.16 | art3mis | <OnLeftClick> |
| 00:04.25 | art3mis | is the xml thingy for the checkbox |
| 00:04.32 | JoshBorke | most munchkins need food, yes |
| 00:04.59 | Drea | right on art3mis, thanks. i gotta do it all in the lua tho |
| 00:13.10 | Taeri | hrmhrm, where to go lvl my mining skill.. need go get above mithril |
| 00:13.25 | art3mis | what level are you? |
| 00:13.29 | art3mis | 165? |
| 00:14.05 | Taeri | I'm...220. |
| 00:14.12 | art3mis | i'd say tanaris, ungoro, badlands, searing, |
| 00:14.21 | art3mis | for trusilver, thorium, dark iron |
| 00:14.30 | Taeri | I need to get mithril |
| 00:14.36 | art3mis | and mithril |
| 00:14.40 | Taeri | since I can't mine any of the above I think. |
| 00:14.46 | art3mis | oh |
| 00:14.59 | art3mis | tararis or hintherlands then ;P |
| 00:15.00 | Kelfarr | KELFARR IS JUST A MEANY POO HEAD HE TOLD ME MY UI WOULD BE GOOD FOR TOILET PAPER ONLY. LOLOLOLOL |
| 00:15.01 | Taeri | not sure what lvl truesilver is. |
| 00:15.30 | art3mis | tanaris/hinterlands |
| 00:15.43 | Taeri | Mmkay, thanks ^^ |
| 00:16.25 | Rayne | Kelfarr: /bow |
| 00:18.55 | Rayne | I see Kelfarr doesnt use his IRC he just idles it >:[ |
| 00:19.49 | Rayne`OMFGAFK | bbs |
| 00:21.53 | Kelfarr | its true |
| 00:21.56 | Kelfarr | i just sit in here |
| 00:25.54 | art3mis | like kelfarr would know a good ui |
| 00:26.03 | art3mis | i mean really have you seen the crap HE uses? |
| 00:26.09 | Kelfarr | i know its horrible |
| 00:26.39 | art3mis | its like he hired a monkey to scribble and fling poo at his monitor and then based all the positionaing and fonts from THAT |
| 00:26.53 | Kelfarr | I agree kelfarr is retarded |
| 00:27.06 | art3mis | ya know what would be afun addon for ui designers? |
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| 00:27.16 | art3mis | one that just randomly placed all the boxes on yer screen |
| 00:27.27 | Shirik | ha |
| 00:27.28 | art3mis | without over lapping ;P |
| 00:27.34 | Shirik | seems like that's what everyone else does anyway |
| 00:27.40 | art3mis | hehe nods |
| 00:32.01 | Shirik | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ov07yLusCKs |
| 00:33.30 | Industrial | rap |
| 00:33.30 | Industrial | no |
| 00:33.37 | Shirik | I hate rap too |
| 00:33.38 | Shirik | but this is awesome |
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| 00:36.03 | WobWork | hehe |
| 00:36.13 | WobWork | I agree, I don't like 50cent and crap |
| 00:36.20 | WobWork | but Nyhm makes it bearable |
| 00:36.20 | Tem | Shirik, LOL |
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| 00:36.24 | WobWork | by being funny =) |
| 00:37.10 | art3mis | read a book? |
| 00:38.22 | Xinhuan | eew |
| 00:38.49 | art3mis | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rN2VqFPNS8w <-- funny rap... nyhm != funny |
| 00:39.20 | Shirik | no, funny rap is |
| 00:39.59 | Shirik | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fow7iUaKrq4 |
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| 00:41.37 | Xinhuan | funny rap is http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qjLw28UVWEU&feature=related , the singapore government released this rap for their Media Development Authority |
| 00:42.06 | Xinhuan | reached like top 10 clips in the net within a week |
| 00:44.45 | Shirik | Xinhuan rofl |
| 00:44.55 | Xinhuan | ^^ |
| 00:45.03 | batrick | i think for the last update of my mod I'll paste this on the screen whenever Arcane Power is up: http://www.unm.edu/~batrick/files/APskillz.jpg |
| 00:45.13 | batrick | mage mod* |
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| 00:49.50 | foxlit | Hm, rap videos? |
| 00:49.56 | foxlit | Three can play this game! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ooa8nHKPZ5k |
| 00:53.08 | art3mis | Answer 44 its real easy cuz its sig figs, you got 45 you rounded high your answers too big |
| 00:53.11 | art3mis | laugh |
| 00:53.31 | WobWork | Xinhuan: omg |
| 00:53.40 | WobWork | Xinhuan: needs more singlish |
| 00:53.41 | Xinhuan | :P |
| 00:53.46 | Xinhuan | ok lah |
| 00:53.47 | foxlit | The limits to the sky joke was also pretty <3 |
| 00:54.29 | WobWork | IT DOESN'T RHYME =P |
| 00:55.12 | art3mis | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P2SoPSF3IjE&feature=related |
| 00:55.16 | Khreasilya | anyone mind if i ask a quick UI question? >.< need help with something and can't figure out if it's possible / how to do it |
| 00:55.22 | foxlit | ~ask |
| 00:55.23 | purl | Questions in the channel should be specific, informative, complete, concise, and on-topic. Don't ask if you can ask a question first. Don't ask if a person is there, just ask what you intended to ask them. Better questions more frequently yield better answers. We are all here voluntarily or against our will. |
| 00:55.35 | Shirik | foxlit: That guy fails |
| 00:55.55 | foxlit | Shirik: which guy, how? :) |
| 00:56.04 | Shirik | "What you know about math" |
| 00:56.15 | Khreasilya | pitbull raid frames + eepanels. Is it possible to have my background frame (from eepanels) for pitbull to ONLY appear when in a raid. |
| 00:56.18 | Shirik | anyone in my school with a TI-83 at my school would be instantly associated with one of the low level courses anyway |
| 00:56.19 | Shirik | but in any case |
| 00:56.21 | Khreasilya | if so, how? |
| 00:56.32 | Shirik | you can't end up with 45 due to significant figures.... |
| 00:56.36 | Shirik | if the result was 43 |
| 00:56.49 | foxlit | It's 84 anyway |
| 00:56.50 | buu | Hrm. Can you use non-traditional keys as modifier keys in wow? |
| 00:56.55 | Shirik | meh |
| 00:56.58 | Shirik | Get an 89 |
| 00:57.06 | foxlit | Shirik, fail! |
| 00:57.09 | Shirik | I have four calculators in my backpack, sadly >< |
| 00:57.12 | foxlit | "The answer's 44" |
| 00:57.16 | foxlit | And, anyway |
| 00:57.23 | bleeter | 42 |
| 00:57.28 | foxlit | The difference is 89 allows symbolic logic |
| 00:57.31 | Shirik | 42 I agree |
| 00:57.33 | Shirik | exactly! |
| 00:57.49 | foxlit | Which is sort of cheating between g10 and university |
| 00:58.04 | Industrial | shitt how do I make a picture of a video thats playing? I NEEEEEED to show this |
| 00:58.15 | Industrial | (media player classic, avi) |
| 00:58.15 | foxlit | printscreen |
| 00:58.18 | Shirik | foxlit: Not cheating at mine :) |
| 00:58.22 | Industrial | no, only get black contents |
| 00:58.23 | bleeter | anyone heard any whispers about patch/maint tonight? midday in .au, still nfi if we get playtime tonight :/ |
| 00:58.26 | Shirik | If you got to these courses it can be assumed you know how to do this kind of math |
| 00:58.27 | buu | Industrial: You don't =[ |
| 00:58.37 | Shirik | besides, most of the equations we get can't be solved using that :/ |
| 00:58.37 | foxlit | Shirik: target age of those courses is? |
| 00:58.42 | buu | Industrial: You'd have to use aprogram that let you render individual frames. |
| 00:58.46 | Shirik | junior-level |
| 00:58.48 | Industrial | bah |
| 00:58.50 | foxlit | Translate |
| 00:58.52 | Shirik | 3rd year undergrad |
| 00:58.54 | foxlit | To age :) |
| 00:58.56 | Shirik | uh |
| 00:58.59 | Shirik | 21 |
| 00:59.08 | foxlit | Yeah, okay |
| 00:59.59 | Shirik | I can do integrals, I just don't feel like that's a valid use of my time when there's more complicated things I need to be doing |
| 01:00.30 | foxlit | I was under the impressions those guys were pre-university :P |
| 01:00.39 | foxlit | Having said that, I still have a TI-84. |
| 01:00.41 | Shirik | naturally the easy ones I do by hand just because it's faster than typing it in :P |
| 01:00.54 | foxlit | There was no point getting -89 since our math courses allow us to use software calculators |
| 01:01.13 | Rayne | lolwut |
| 01:02.44 | Shirik | yeah I still need to get back into maple/matlab |
| 01:02.50 | Shirik | I knew it a while ago but haven't used it since |
| 01:03.12 | foxlit | Maple is a very odd thing compared to a calculator |
| 01:03.57 | foxlit | Awesome, but there's a 195 page book that came explaining a "few useful commands" |
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| 01:04.27 | Cide | Industrial: disable hardware acceleration, iirc |
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| 01:04.31 | foxlit | And then it refused to simplify -2*exp(t)*cos(t)*1/5+4*exp(t)*sin(t)*1/5+(1/5)*exp(t)*sin(t)+2*exp(t)*cos(t)*1/5 :( |
| 01:04.48 | Rayne | Everyone ignore shrig, maybe hell go away for another week :/ |
| 01:05.03 | foxlit | Cide is right, of course |
| 01:05.30 | Cide | ? |
| 01:05.42 | foxlit | Hardware acceleration, video playback and screenshots |
| 01:05.46 | Cide | oh |
| 01:05.48 | Shirik | exp? |
| 01:05.52 | Shirik | that is e^t? |
| 01:05.54 | Cide | Shirik: e^t |
| 01:06.06 | foxlit | e isn't reserved in maple |
| 01:06.33 | Cide | that's the only way to get e in lua |
| 01:06.37 | Cide | >>> math.exp(1) |
| 01:06.37 | Cide | Cide: 2.718281828459 |
| 01:07.40 | Cide | if you disregard the 7, the beginning of e's decimal expansion is pretty nice |
| 01:07.46 | foxlit | But point being is that the outer two terms cancel out, and the inner terms add up to 1*e^t*sin(t) |
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| 01:07.53 | Shirik | >>> sin=math.sin; cos=math.cos; -2*math.exp(10)*cos(10)*1/5+4*math.exp(10)*sin(10)*1/5+(1/5)*math.exp(10)*sin(10)+2*math.exp(10)*cos(10)*1/5 |
| 01:08.01 | Shirik | >>> sin=math.sin; cos=math.cos; return -2*math.exp(10)*cos(10)*1/5+4*math.exp(10)*sin(10)*1/5+(1/5)*math.exp(10)*sin(10)+2*math.exp(10)*cos(10)*1/5 |
| 01:08.01 | Cide | Shirik: -11982.862390657 |
| 01:08.03 | Cide | 18, 28, 18, 28 |
| 01:08.34 | Rayne | Can I ask you guys a question |
| 01:08.39 | Shirik | ~asktoask |
| 01:08.39 | purl | This is IRC. Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question and if someone's around, they'll be glad to help. |
| 01:08.40 | Rayne | is this really, REALLY needed in a UI? http://www.themook.net/mookui/MookUI_addons.jpg :/ |
| 01:08.49 | Cide | yes |
| 01:08.55 | foxlit | Needs more ace |
| 01:08.56 | Cide | without all of that, you don't have a user interface |
| 01:09.14 | Shirik | |Jelly|Laptop installed all of the Ace addons once |
| 01:09.29 | Cide | also, it's funny |
| 01:09.32 | foxlit | Hm |
| 01:09.34 | Cide | because that's not that many separate addons |
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| 01:09.45 | foxlit | Why isn't it |Jelly|Supercomputer yet? |
| 01:09.56 | Shirik | because the computer died when he tried to boot up after doing that |
| 01:09.59 | Cide | it just has like 10^100 modules per ace addon |
| 01:11.09 | foxlit | Silly, really |
| 01:11.37 | foxlit | If there was such a strong desire to go with modules, might as well have stored lua code in strings and loadstring'ed at run time |
| 01:12.02 | Cide | I'm making modules with stored functions |
| 01:12.15 | Cide | same thing, really |
| 01:13.28 | Cide | but really, the problem it attempts to solve is an imaginary one imo |
| 01:13.47 | foxlit | Meh |
| 01:13.49 | Rayne | http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v442/SinOfDreams/Desktop.jpg nomnomnom Portal Logo |
| 01:14.02 | TecnoBrat | Cide, you mean .. "code reusability"? |
| 01:14.04 | Cide | needs more vector |
| 01:14.10 | foxlit | There's no such thing :P |
| 01:14.12 | Cide | TecnoBrat: no... memory usage |
| 01:14.19 | TecnoBrat | foxlit, exactly :P |
| 01:14.29 | TecnoBrat | Cide, ahh yea, that too |
| 01:14.41 | foxlit | I wonder, if someone tainted the addon memory/cpu feedback API, would anyone really notice? |
| 01:14.47 | Cide | "I need to make this a module so that people who don't need it don't waste 50bytes of memory!" |
| 01:14.57 | TecnoBrat | which they are trying to solve by reusing code |
| 01:15.25 | Cide | TecnoBrat: no, reusing code is *RARELY* for memory reasons |
| 01:15.34 | foxlit | Merely saves development time |
| 01:15.38 | Cide | it happens, sure, but the main reason to do it is maintainability |
| 01:15.45 | TecnoBrat | Memory is meant to be used! :P |
| 01:15.46 | Cide | and that, sure |
| 01:15.52 | foxlit | Problem is |
| 01:15.58 | Cide | that being what foxlit said :P |
| 01:16.03 | foxlit | Rather than writing a little code that could do what you want efficiently |
| 01:16.19 | foxlit | People default to including a behemoth library that tries to be everything to everyone... but only once. |
| 01:16.38 | TecnoBrat | foxlit, heh, yea. |
| 01:16.48 | TecnoBrat | foxlit, actually its worse |
| 01:16.57 | Cide | s/library/libraries/ |
| 01:16.57 | TecnoBrat | they include a library that does 10 things |
| 01:17.05 | TecnoBrat | they use 1, and only once in their code |
| 01:17.07 | WobWork | unless they're Al'ar |
| 01:17.32 | Cide | they include 10 libraries, each doing 50 things, and use one thing per library |
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| 01:17.39 | TecnoBrat | Cide, exactly |
| 01:17.45 | TecnoBrat | and only once in their code |
| 01:17.51 | Cide | require("ChatLib"); ChatLib.PrintToScreen("Hello, world") |
| 01:18.02 | Cide | ^ true story |
| 01:18.07 | TecnoBrat | Cide, I believe ya |
| 01:18.21 | JoshBorke | i do it in dongle |
| 01:18.21 | TecnoBrat | instead, they could just rip that method out .. and use it .. alone. |
| 01:18.25 | WobWork | foxlit: http://svn.wowace.com/wowace/trunk/!AlarLib/AlarLib-2.0/AlarLib-2.0.lua |
| 01:18.28 | JoshBorke | i use it only for the db magic |
| 01:19.10 | TecnoBrat | WobWork, this looks scary |
| 01:19.21 | Cide | I have my own lib which does a few things... creates frames, prints stuff, registers events and timers, and stores saved variables... things I use in every singel addon, more or less |
| 01:19.26 | Cide | s/singel/single/ |
| 01:19.37 | foxlit | Events/Timers seems to be a common theme |
| 01:19.52 | WobWork | TecnoBrat: every time I see alar update his 'library' I shudder in fear |
| 01:19.55 | Cide | the only thing I sometimes don't use is print, so that's more of a helper function for debugging |
| 01:20.26 | TecnoBrat | Cide, and how big is that said function ... I doubt very big :P |
| 01:20.29 | Cide | Kaso: yes |
| 01:20.33 | Kaso | owch |
| 01:20.38 | Cide | it's not a real example |
| 01:20.44 | TecnoBrat | Kaso, yea, that was the whole gist of the conversation too |
| 01:20.44 | Cide | but it's where some addons are heading |
| 01:21.04 | TecnoBrat | Cide, some are long since there. |
| 01:21.09 | Kaso | ah i thought it was a real example, got all upset |
| 01:21.21 | foxlit | There, um, was this addon |
| 01:21.22 | Cide | Kaso: there are equivalent ones all over |
| 01:21.28 | TecnoBrat | WobWork, okay. I need to close my browser now |
| 01:21.29 | Kaso | Wasnt there some acey guy who had his "uber wrap all functions" lib? |
| 01:21.33 | TecnoBrat | before I want to break something |
| 01:21.33 | foxlit | That implemented a calculator by string matching with Ace :) |
| 01:21.38 | TecnoBrat | cause ... I'm getting close |
| 01:21.52 | WobWork | Kaso: Yes. |
| 01:21.52 | Kaso | foxlit, i think i remeber that.. |
| 01:22.09 | TecnoBrat | it did what? |
| 01:22.16 | WobWork | Kaso: I think we broke him of that habit |
| 01:22.23 | Kaso | thank the lord |
| 01:22.32 | WobWork | Alar doesn't log into IRC, so we couldn't browbeat him into doing it properly |
| 01:23.08 | Cide | WobWork: I dunno |
| 01:23.09 | Cide | function AMO_TTAdd(frame,message) |
| 01:23.09 | Cide | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:23.09 | Cide | end |
| 01:23.09 | Cide | function AMO_TTClose() |
| 01:23.09 | Cide | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:23.11 | Cide | end |
| 01:23.13 | Cide | function AMO_TTFade() |
| 01:23.15 | Cide | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:23.17 | Cide | end |
| 01:23.18 | MentalPower | ah!! |
| 01:23.19 | Cide | oh, that wasn't meant to be that long |
| 01:23.19 | MentalPower | spam! |
| 01:23.21 | Cide | but hey, I have voice, bitchez. |
| 01:23.28 | MentalPower | ~lart Cide |
| 01:23.29 | purl | installs a bad bootloader on Cide and turns Cide into a brick |
| 01:23.35 | MentalPower | I like that one :) |
| 01:23.38 | Cide | anyway, that's straight from svn |
| 01:23.42 | Cide | MentalPower: :/ |
| 01:23.52 | WobWork | Oh, no Alar is someone completely different |
| 01:23.58 | Cide|Brick | oh |
| 01:23.58 | WobWork | to the "all in one wrapper" guy |
| 01:24.00 | Cide|Brick | well, he's doing it too |
| 01:24.02 | WobWork | yes |
| 01:24.03 | TecnoBrat | One trend I have seen a LOT lately, is 6 people making libraries that all do the same thing .. all in almost the exact same way .. while that allows and author to be flexible, it also means the user has to load 10 libraries that all do the same thing, because they have an addon that uses each |
| 01:24.11 | WobWork | Alar is... a train wreck in progress |
| 01:24.46 | WobWork | We managed to convince that one fellow that wrapping the blizzard api wasn't efficient |
| 01:24.50 | Kaso | WobWork, ive been meaning to ask, is guildbank sorting going to appear in Mr Plow any time soon ? |
| 01:24.53 | WobWork | We can't get to Alar to brick him =) |
| 01:24.58 | art3mis | someone make me a 5 ace2 profile swapper ;P |
| 01:25.02 | WobWork | Kaso: Yes... and no |
| 01:25.08 | art3mis | you bastards ;) |
| 01:25.18 | Kaso | which bits yes which bits no? |
| 01:25.20 | WobWork | My guild master is somewhat OCD about how his guildbank is setup |
| 01:25.33 | WobWork | so testing can be... painful at times =P |
| 01:25.39 | Kaso | aah i see |
| 01:25.41 | Cide | wait until he logs off |
| 01:25.48 | Cide | and go to town |
| 01:25.49 | WobWork | also, CursorHasItem is bugged to not work with guildbanks |
| 01:25.57 | MentalPower | its not bugged |
| 01:26.00 | MentalPower | its by design |
| 01:26.04 | foxlit | Re:So the main question is (Score:4, Informative): Don't buy HD porn. Ever. |
| 01:26.05 | WobWork | orly? |
| 01:26.13 | WobWork | why? |
| 01:26.15 | TecnoBrat | WobWork, I didn't close the window ... I think I need some mental help now |
| 01:26.17 | bleeter | lol oceanic latency @ 1AM -> http://i9.tinypic.com/89q7vb9.jpg |
| 01:26.27 | MentalPower | when you're manipulating an item in the guildbank, you're not really holding an item |
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| 01:26.39 | foxlit | Meh |
| 01:26.43 | WobWork | because someone else could be? |
| 01:26.44 | MentalPower | think of it as moving "items" around in your hotbars |
| 01:26.50 | foxlit | The whole API needs to move to this "my cursor is my local thing" |
| 01:27.24 | WobWork | MentalPower: Well, thinking that doesn't help if I can't figure out if I have something on my cursor or not =P |
| 01:27.45 | Cide | hooks! |
| 01:27.53 | foxlit | I was about to suggest hooking guild bank FrameXML |
| 01:28.12 | foxlit | But then I realized I don't have a clue about what you're trying to do, so I thought I should shut up and go sleep :) |
| 01:28.20 | WobWork | not conducive to custom bag mods though? |
| 01:28.32 | foxlit | Well |
| 01:28.39 | foxlit | If the cursor for guild bank is indeed virtual |
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| 01:28.58 | foxlit | You'll never find out what's on it if someone is using a custom bag mod you don't know about it |
| 01:28.58 | WobWork | I need to know that I have an item stuck to my cursor so I know I can put it down safely |
| 01:29.21 | WobWork | ignoring the fact that someone else may be moving stuff around behind my back |
| 01:30.25 | foxlit | "Wowhead is continuing to grow! We've just upgraded to a brand new webserver, with 8 CPUS and 32 gigs of RAM. I think that one is strong enough to handle all the traffic you can throw at it...who wants to prove me wrong? :)" -- sounds like a challenge |
| 01:30.26 | WobWork | foxlit: well I bypass custom bag mods in the way that I use the blizzard api to pick up the items |
| 01:30.43 | WobWork | but if I have to hook the actual frame... |
| 01:30.48 | foxlit | I don't know what you're doing in the first place :) |
| 01:31.00 | WobWork | MrPlow is a sorting addon |
| 01:31.04 | WobWork | it sorts your inventory |
| 01:31.06 | Cide | foxlit: queue DDoS's! |
| 01:31.26 | foxlit | Cide: forget DDoS! We're going to try flying monkeys of doom! |
| 01:31.31 | Kaso | Tommorrow: "Wowhead has been hit by 20 botnets at once, we're out of order" |
| 01:31.42 | Cide | let's just pick up a wrench and have fun in their server room |
| 01:33.08 | Cide | ok, I'm off to bed |
| 01:33.11 | Cide | night guys |
| 01:34.35 | art3mis | bleeter: that means you're running low on porpoises ;P |
| 01:36.49 | bleeter | art3mis: no, I think it means it must be time to contact the tech media over here and suggest they might wish to NOT reccommend WoW as a Christmas present ;) |
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| 01:40.07 | TecnoBrat | foxlit, I'm logging that! |
| 01:40.42 | foxlit | Fly, my pretties, fly?! |
| 01:42.30 | bleeter | hmm, 3am - 11am maintenance... 2.3.2 anyone? |
| 01:42.47 | foxlit | did they unnerf my idol yet? |
| 01:43.22 | bleeter | is this the third maint in a row? |
| 01:43.33 | foxlit | patch - season 3 - ?? |
| 01:43.49 | bleeter | 2.3.2 |
| 01:44.07 | foxlit | official, or are you just speculating? |
| 01:44.17 | bleeter | announcement just went up |
| 01:44.29 | bleeter | http://launcher.worldofwarcraft.com/alert |
| 01:44.43 | foxlit | But no patch note in that? |
| 01:45.18 | foxlit | It may well be 2.3.2, but no one has said that yet is what I'm saying :) |
| 01:45.20 | bleeter | nope |
| 01:45.34 | bleeter | no preloading, either. |
| 01:45.55 | foxlit | I'd imagine the patch isn't really that big |
| 01:46.05 | foxlit | might as well roll out on the day |
| 01:46.17 | bleeter | prolly |
| 01:46.49 | bleeter | anyways, yay for oceanics bitching tonight about huge queues, locked realms and third week in a row where there's no raiding on a tuesday |
| 01:47.05 | art3mis | thats what you get for being a criminal |
| 01:47.16 | art3mis | and for paul hogan |
| 01:47.23 | art3mis | it's a direct collelation |
| 01:47.45 | art3mis | err spell that correctly to udnerstand what im talking about ;P |
| 01:48.07 | bleeter | rather be a crim than a nutty religious fundie :P |
| 01:48.18 | art3mis | so scientists found another fish they would was long gone(only 75million year old fossil records) |
| 01:48.24 | bleeter | and hogan's no longer an aussie, afaik |
| 01:48.45 | art3mis | im canadian, dot be lumping me in with the unwashed god fearing folks ;P |
| 01:49.02 | bleeter | ohhh... canadarian. even worse :P |
| 01:49.17 | art3mis | us canuckians is the greetist! |
| 01:50.07 | WobWork | You have US Canuckians? |
| 01:50.38 | art3mis | http://youtube.com/watch?v=-ApSTh6eviU |
| 01:50.43 | bleeter | WobWork: it's the 51st state, remember ;) |
| 01:50.47 | art3mis | us as in first person "we" ;P |
| 01:50.49 | bleeter | WobWork: we're merely the 52nd |
| 01:50.57 | Mr_Rabies2 | i thought that was the uk |
| 01:51.07 | Mr_Rabies2 | canada can have 55 or so |
| 01:51.07 | art3mis | the uk is the lou of the usa ;P |
| 01:51.40 | art3mis | we dont need pennies in canada anymore, we can just use american dimes ;P |
| 01:52.34 | Industrial | This is tainting my interface, but I don't know why. http://pastebin.com/ma593286 |
| 01:52.41 | Industrial | button:Show() is being called in combat |
| 01:52.49 | Mr_Rabies2 | not for long, because everyone's ordering from the us because retailers are still charging too much (even not considering tax) in canada |
| 01:53.04 | Industrial | the only show/hide I do is on PLAYER_LOGIN and PLAYER_LOGOUT, which is out of combat. |
| 01:53.10 | art3mis | http://youtube.com/watch?v=DCeBaB4-Ouo <-- onl;y "bee gees" song i like |
| 01:53.30 | art3mis | Mr_Rabies2: heh yeah i find that hilarious |
| 01:53.32 | Industrial | and the inherited frame can't be calling show hide right? (cause its a secure template..) |
| 01:53.41 | art3mis | watched a full season of this hour has 22 minutes the other night |
| 01:53.49 | art3mis | and the rick mercer report |
| 01:55.16 | cogwheel | i like the bee gees, i just wish they didn't look like an aged, 1970s version of hanson |
| 01:55.39 | bleeter | ~fail gm |
| 01:55.40 | purl | gm: Fail. |
| 01:55.50 | WobWork | heh |
| 01:56.00 | bleeter | so a guy in our guild posted an item on the AH for 24g b/o.. it sells... he gets 24s in the mail |
| 01:56.06 | WobWork | I remember a spoof ad that came out after one of them died |
| 01:56.08 | bleeter | reports it... GM tells him to repost the auction |
| 01:56.25 | cogwheel | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:56.27 | WobWork | "BeeGees Concert! 1/3 off" |
| 01:57.08 | art3mis | hahahaha |
| 01:57.11 | cogwheel | "Circumcisions! half off!" |
| 01:57.31 | art3mis | the meatmen song "1 down 3 to go" is still one of my favs |
| 01:57.33 | WobWork | <3 Mel Brooks |
| 01:57.34 | Rayne | Its an awful feeling, being in a guild thats dying, and as an officer theres nothing I can do. :/ |
| 01:57.36 | art3mis | in honour of john lennon |
| 01:57.53 | art3mis | i think SoD did a cover of it too |
| 01:58.02 | art3mis | SoD is/was awesome |
| 01:58.23 | art3mis | rayne: ya know what you need to do to spark the fun? |
| 01:58.23 | cogwheel | WobWork: my grandma: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marilyn_Milos |
| 01:58.33 | Industrial | This is tainting my interface, but I don't know why. http://pastebin.com/ma593286 , button:Show() is being called in combat. the only show/hide I do is on PLAYER_LOGIN and PLAYER_LOGOUT, which is out of combat and the inherited frame can't be calling show hide right? (cause its a secure template..) |
| 01:58.55 | WobWork | cogwheel: are you circumcised? =) |
| 01:58.57 | art3mis | nightly trivia and the 1k Needles Run for Fun |
| 01:58.58 | cogwheel | Industrial: is it a state child? |
| 01:59.05 | cogwheel | state header* |
| 01:59.06 | WobWork | and I like the organisation acronym |
| 01:59.21 | Nechckn | Rayne just begin making a list of people you want in a new, better guild =) It is sad though. |
| 01:59.31 | bleeter | cogwheel: omg she looks like you! |
| 01:59.35 | cogwheel | she started before i was born. you can draw your own conclusions ;) |
| 01:59.39 | art3mis | you get everyone in the guild to make a level 1 undead.. and then they must run from deathkell to the elevator in 1k needles.. first person there wins! |
| 01:59.46 | Industrial | cogwheel: the bar (button parent) is |
| 01:59.55 | cogwheel | that's why |
| 02:00.01 | cogwheel | it'll be fixed in 2.3.2 |
| 02:00.04 | Industrial | why :D |
| 02:00.20 | Industrial | ack, so tehre is no fix now? |
| 02:00.36 | WobWork | we getting 2.3.2 yet? |
| 02:00.37 | cogwheel | actually |
| 02:00.50 | cogwheel | i don't know why it's causing a blocked action... |
| 02:00.52 | bleeter | WobWork: maint tonight, so prolly |
| 02:01.05 | Industrial | me neither! :D |
| 02:01.17 | cogwheel | hmm |
| 02:01.22 | Rayne | :/ |
| 02:01.26 | cogwheel | no... there's another patch for the ptr iirc |
| 02:01.29 | Industrial | it just started happening too :| (guess last patch) |
| 02:02.00 | WobWork | bleeter: totally forgot it was tuesday |
| 02:02.04 | cogwheel | Industrial: it's because you're calling ActionButton:UpdateAction |
| 02:02.10 | cogwheel | insecurely |
| 02:02.38 | WobWork | "Hey... er... Action...button..(is this right?) Update...er... ACTION!" |
| 02:02.47 | cogwheel | 2.3.2's ActionBarButtonTemplate calls ActionButton_UpdateAction in its OAC so you won't have to anymore |
| 02:03.36 | Industrial | hmm, this didn't happen before though (and I've had this running for a while now) |
| 02:04.36 | Industrial | why o why doesnt the blizzard code just use a parameter instead of a global this >_O |
| 02:05.03 | cogwheel | because the parameters didn't exist until 2.0 |
| 02:05.32 | cogwheel | they're slowly but surely revamping though. I bet you'll see a lot of changes in 3.0 |
| 02:06.42 | Industrial | ill ignore the errors then for a while |
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| 02:07.39 | cogwheel | the reason you didn't see any errors in 2.2 was because the errors didn't exist ;) |
| 02:08.22 | cogwheel | before that, protected widget methods failed silently. |
| 02:08.43 | cogwheel | s/before that/back then/ |
| 02:08.48 | reqol | bleeter: i made a really bad mistake with the calculation on showing the time, I uploaded a fixed version, though, if you like the prospect. |
| 02:09.08 | cogwheel | anyway... back to the book... |
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| 02:09.28 | Industrial | hmmmm |
| 02:10.19 | batrick | hmmmmmm |
| 02:11.03 | art3mis | yay carbo-60 nanotube buckyballs! |
| 02:11.07 | art3mis | carbon |
| 02:12.36 | Kaso | see then diffraction they've done on the buckyballs showing even large objects show wave-particle duality |
| 02:12.59 | bleeter | reqol: thanks for the warning... I haven't updated my mods yet, my script should automatically pick up the 'latest' release published on WoWI when it's run. |
| 02:13.01 | batrick | thought that's been known for a hiel |
| 02:13.04 | batrick | while* |
| 02:13.06 | art3mis | buckyballs are the single most amazing creation ever |
| 02:13.22 | art3mis | and they have an awesome name |
| 02:13.25 | bleeter | I'm quite impressed by quantam dots |
| 02:13.37 | bleeter | tho I agree, not as good a name as bucky balls |
| 02:13.47 | bleeter | *quantum dots |
| 02:13.57 | art3mis | was reading this thingy in science news today about micro blackholes |
| 02:14.12 | art3mis | from quarkgluon plasma vibrations |
| 02:14.13 | batrick | atoms are micro blackholes |
| 02:14.16 | batrick | :) |
| 02:14.24 | batrick | think about that |
| 02:14.31 | art3mis | no they arent ;P |
| 02:14.40 | art3mis | wanna know why? |
| 02:14.46 | batrick | sure let's hear it |
| 02:14.47 | art3mis | because they repulse ;) |
| 02:14.57 | batrick | lol |
| 02:15.04 | batrick | that's not a good reason imo |
| 02:15.32 | art3mis | its a very good reason, even on a micro scale to be considered the equiv of a blackhole you'd still need complete absorbtion |
| 02:15.38 | art3mis | minus decay of course ;) |
| 02:15.57 | art3mis | part of me always thinks that blackholes dont occurr in nature |
| 02:16.20 | art3mis | they were all science experiments on advanced beings home worlds that went horribly wrong |
| 02:16.23 | batrick | they've already demonstrated black holes don't completely absorb though |
| 02:17.00 | art3mis | yeah but there is a difference between semi complete absorbtion and repulsion ;P |
| 02:17.15 | art3mis | do blackholes have a charge? |
| 02:17.16 | batrick | atoms absorb energy which is mass what's the diff :P |
| 02:17.31 | art3mis | i dont think i actually know that ;) |
| 02:17.42 | art3mis | are we talking purest atoms? |
| 02:17.48 | art3mis | or chemical atoms |
| 02:17.53 | batrick | i'm talking about the real deal |
| 02:18.01 | art3mis | purist |
| 02:18.08 | batrick | sure |
| 02:18.31 | batrick | i dont' like terminology flooding a discussion, it only leads to misunderstanding |
| 02:19.09 | batrick | here's something to bother you |
| 02:19.09 | art3mis | depends.. they dont absorb in the classical sense, since they do repulse as well, its a give and take for balance.. |
| 02:19.19 | batrick | they always talk about light bending into a blackhole right |
| 02:19.23 | batrick | from our point of view |
| 02:19.26 | art3mis | although i suppose technically we could argue that we just don't know the balance point of a blackhole |
| 02:19.27 | batrick | reference point* |
| 02:19.41 | batrick | so what happens with light comes out "perpendicular" to a black hole |
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| 02:20.28 | batrick | brb |
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| 02:21.23 | art3mis | depends on how you view a blackhole i suppose ;) if you view it as a drain effect then it's natural. if you can grasp the idea that it's 4d and that there really is no up or down, it all works out ;) |
| 02:21.49 | art3mis | that was actually one of the things about the movie the black hole that bugged me as a kid |
| 02:21.53 | Xinhuan | i conclude that this conversation is beyond my understanding, and will now go and stand in a corner |
| 02:21.54 | Xinhuan | :) |
| 02:22.10 | Mr_Rabies2 | it's beyond everyone's understanding |
| 02:22.26 | art3mis | if it was a big drain like they were depicting and the ship was on the event horizon why didnt they just fly around to the back of it ;P |
| 02:22.49 | Mr_Rabies2 | even stephen hawking doesn't know what black holes are nearly well enough to make any concrete statements like that, and he's been studying them his whole life |
| 02:22.52 | art3mis | laugh its not really that difficult a concept ;P |
| 02:23.08 | art3mis | the math may be but we're talking thoughts/theories |
| 02:23.10 | art3mis | no |
| 02:23.15 | Xinhuan | ok what is a black hole? :) |
| 02:23.22 | art3mis | a singularity ;P |
| 02:23.29 | Xinhuan | and what is that? |
| 02:23.47 | laindir | a dimensionless "spot" in the universe with asymptotically high gravity |
| 02:23.55 | art3mis | a single infinite point with finality ;P |
| 02:24.59 | art3mis | what stephen hawking and the rest of uis dont quite know is what goes on beyond the event horizon since mass approaches infinite as does time, our normal math breaks down ;P |
| 02:25.34 | art3mis | kinna like asking "whats the last digit of 22/7" ;P |
| 02:25.51 | laindir | harder probably |
| 02:25.53 | Xinhuan | i think you'll do better at hello kitty UIs than at black holes |
| 02:25.59 | laindir | 22/7 is by definition rational |
| 02:26.01 | art3mis | laugh |
| 02:26.15 | art3mis | hello kitty kows what a black hole is! |
| 02:26.18 | art3mis | knows |
| 02:27.00 | art3mis | its odd that quantum and particle physics can interest me sooo much, yet i suck at math ;) |
| 02:27.10 | Xinhuan | "whats the last digit of 22/7" <----- its 7! |
| 02:27.23 | art3mis | ~rimshot |
| 02:27.24 | purl | ba-dum CHH |
| 02:27.38 | art3mis | and the capital of Arkansas is A ;P |
| 02:27.51 | Mr_Rabies2 | the last digit of 22/7 is "your mother" |
| 02:28.02 | bleeter | 50% of the world's population have below average IQ |
| 02:28.17 | Mr_Rabies2 | "3.14159....yourmother" |
| 02:28.22 | art3mis | haha |
| 02:28.33 | Mr_Rabies2 | my face itches |
| 02:28.43 | Mr_Rabies2 | so i'm hitting it with a rubber suction cup thing |
| 02:28.49 | laindir | actually, if I had to take a stab in the dark at the last digit of 22/7, I probably would guess 7 |
| 02:29.21 | laindir | the only thing I can say with certainty is that it's not 0, 3, 6, or 9 |
| 02:32.13 | Xinhuan | bleeter: False. the mathematical average (average iq) has nothing to do with the median (50% quartile) :D |
| 02:32.26 | batrick | art3mis: the answer is that it bends intot he blackhole |
| 02:33.22 | laindir | I thought intelligence quotient was normally distributed... wouldn't it be based on the mean? |
| 02:33.25 | batrick | at that point, gravity is pulling from the side not just the bottom |
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| 02:35.50 | laindir | and besides, in a sample that large shouldn't the median and mean theoretically be equal or at least infinitesimally close? |
| 02:36.18 | Xinhuan | not necessarily |
| 02:36.39 | laindir | granted, but I've never heard any reports on "clustering" of quotients |
| 02:36.39 | Xinhuan | "normally distributed" is only an assumption |
| 02:38.24 | art3mis | we sure do talk about odd things from time to time |
| 02:38.35 | batrick | u started it |
| 02:38.38 | art3mis | whats even funnier is now non sequitor the topics are |
| 02:38.43 | art3mis | now == how |
| 02:39.04 | art3mis | yeah i suppose i did |
| 02:39.07 | batrick | no it doesn't |
| 02:39.14 | batrick | --> "n" == "h" |
| 02:39.14 | batbot | batrick: > false |
| 02:39.19 | batrick | liar! |
| 02:39.27 | art3mis | laugh |
| 02:39.50 | art3mis | --> "literal" == "logical" |
| 02:39.50 | batbot | art3mis: > false |
| 02:39.57 | batrick | whatever, talking about black holes is better than watching join/parts |
| 02:40.06 | art3mis | thats true |
| 02:40.35 | art3mis | a lot of the nano tube quantum computing stuff they're doing lately is pretty neato |
| 02:40.45 | art3mis | as is the slowing of light |
| 02:40.50 | art3mis | that amazes me |
| 02:41.11 | testleK|away | slowing of light eh? |
| 02:41.24 | batrick | i can slow light down |
| 02:41.31 | batrick | give me a tub of waater and a target |
| 02:41.43 | laindir | yeah, slowing of light is hardly new |
| 02:41.52 | testleK|away | lol |
| 02:41.53 | laindir | now slowing of light in a vacuum... that would be something |
| 02:41.56 | art3mis | http://www.fortunecity.com/emachines/e11/86/bose.html |
| 02:42.18 | art3mis | slowing it to walking speed ;P |
| 02:42.27 | art3mis | or less than a m/s |
| 02:42.35 | art3mis | thats perty groovy |
| 02:42.37 | laindir | ahhh... super cooled sodium or somesuch? |
| 02:43.12 | testleK|away | omg im gonna have to read that when im awake lol |
| 02:43.57 | art3mis | there should be an update from this year kicking around too |
| 02:44.23 | art3mis | http://www.colorado.edu/physics/2000/bec/ <-- heh |
| 02:44.40 | laindir | aha! the wais/wisc test is measure on a gaussian curve! I knew it |
| 02:44.46 | laindir | *measured |
| 02:45.28 | Shirik | holy crap |
| 02:45.48 | Shirik | someone in my RT group was working on the final documentation for a project due tomorrow, which we have to submit on CD |
| 02:46.08 | Shirik | He made an autorun.inf and an HTML version of all the documentation so that it's all clickable and all o.o |
| 02:46.20 | Shirik | the guy is nutserror C2065: 'SOCKET' : undeclared identifier |
| 02:46.21 | Shirik | oops |
| 02:46.29 | art3mis | it would have been funnier if "he coastered the disc and has no more" |
| 02:46.34 | Shirik | ... |
| 02:46.36 | Shirik | no it wouldn't >< |
| 02:46.40 | Shirik | spent way too much time on it |
| 02:46.43 | art3mis | thats entirely subjective ;P |
| 02:54.29 | Xinhuan | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=3168484081&sid=1&pageNo=2 |
| 02:54.37 | Xinhuan | is anyone amused by the last reply |
| 02:54.41 | Xinhuan | in that thread |
| 02:56.39 | art3mis | is it suypposed to be stupid? |
| 02:56.49 | art3mis | it's not stupid it's AdvaaaaAAAnnced |
| 02:57.44 | art3mis | ohohohohoh i am! |
| 02:58.07 | art3mis | ui got "hacked", wowi had a bad upload ;) |
| 02:58.25 | art3mis | thank goodness rush is gonna help plug the upload hole though heh |
| 02:58.50 | Shirik | You know, I'm starting to think the mysql API is just as bad as the Microsoft API |
| 02:59.01 | Shirik | "This option is available beginning with MySQL 4.1.1, but is unused." |
| 02:59.07 | Shirik | .... then why did you add it? |
| 03:01.20 | batrick | imma hack ur fase |
| 03:01.48 | batrick | hello shirik |
| 03:01.56 | Shirik | hi batbot |
| 03:02.00 | Shirik | and batrick |
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| 03:02.36 | Kelfarr | do I have everything right /cast [modifier:shift] Sinister Strike; Riposte |
| 03:03.08 | Shirik | it will cast SS when holding shift, riposte otherwise? |
| 03:03.15 | laindir | yep |
| 03:03.26 | laindir | can be shortened as [mod:shift] also |
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| 03:05.36 | Kelfarr | oops |
| 03:05.38 | Kelfarr | wrong way around |
| 03:05.53 | laindir | I wondered about that |
| 03:05.56 | Kelfarr | yeah |
| 03:06.09 | Kelfarr | some guy asked on the forums I always get that part wrong |
| 03:06.51 | Wobwor1 | http://www.sltrib.com/news/ci_7624503 |
| 03:07.06 | Wobwor1 | Steve Ballmer, defending innocents from bank robbers around the world |
| 03:07.18 | laindir | lol, that's pretty sweet |
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| 03:11.12 | laindir | hmmm... time for some rock band methinks... |
| 03:15.27 | batrick | kELFARR STOP HURTING MAI FEELINS ON DA FORUMZ LOL |
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| 03:19.27 | Shirik | char*** fileList; |
| 03:19.55 | NightHawkTheSane | o_0 i'm not even going to ask why you need that |
| 03:20.12 | Shirik | char* because it's a string |
| 03:20.18 | Shirik | address of that because it's a variable-sized array |
| 03:20.36 | Shirik | address of that because it's inside a function and I need to pass back the address to a newly allocated array |
| 03:22.26 | Kaso | oh my god |
| 03:22.31 | Kaso | it's full of stars |
| 03:22.55 | batrick | Shirik: i saw a book of pitfalls in C, it had some fun stuff |
| 03:23.00 | batrick | i++++c |
| 03:23.06 | batrick | whoops |
| 03:23.09 | batrick | i+++++c |
| 03:23.10 | batrick | there |
| 03:23.14 | Shirik | ow |
| 03:23.15 | batrick | >:) |
| 03:23.17 | Shirik | is that even legal? |
| 03:23.19 | batrick | yes |
| 03:23.42 | Shirik | 1>c:\users\mpdelbuono\documents\code\wowisecure\wowisecure\wowisecure.cpp(35) : error C2105: '++' needs l-value |
| 03:23.42 | Shirik | 1>c:\users\mpdelbuono\documents\code\wowisecure\wowisecure\wowisecure.cpp(35) : warning C4552: '+' : operator has no effect; expected operator with side-effect |
| 03:24.41 | Shirik | that was with |
| 03:24.42 | Shirik | int i, c; |
| 03:24.43 | Shirik | i+++++c; |
| 03:24.56 | batrick | you have to assign |
| 03:24.59 | batrick | e.g. |
| 03:25.17 | batrick | int i,j,k; i = j+++++k |
| 03:25.35 | Shirik | same problem :/ |
| 03:25.40 | batrick | grr |
| 03:25.43 | Shirik | but if I put spaces, like i++ + ++j |
| 03:25.44 | Shirik | it works |
| 03:25.47 | Shirik | that still hurts my head though |
| 03:26.13 | Shirik | granted this is C++ |
| 03:26.16 | Shirik | maybe it has different rules? |
| 03:26.30 | Shirik | because C++'s strictness is much more sane than C./ |
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| 03:33.18 | batrick | Shirik: it's a gcc bug |
| 03:33.25 | Shirik | ah |
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| 03:36.44 | Kaso | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1VkTIUg-MgM |
| 03:46.31 | batrick | Shirik: ++ binds higher than + |
| 03:46.40 | Shirik | so it should be, what |
| 03:46.46 | batrick | but because gcc is shitty with how it tokenizes shit it messes up |
| 03:46.50 | Shirik | i++++ + j? |
| 03:46.53 | batrick | well gcc should expand it to |
| 03:46.58 | Shirik | I don't really see what it should be, tbh |
| 03:46.59 | batrick | i++ + ++j |
| 03:47.11 | Shirik | is that what it should be? |
| 03:47.14 | batrick | yes |
| 03:47.21 | Shirik | why not, say |
| 03:47.22 | WobWork | aiee =P |
| 03:47.27 | Shirik | i+ (++++j) |
| 03:47.33 | Shirik | if ++ binds higher |
| 03:47.40 | batrick | because it's invalid to have that |
| 03:47.57 | Shirik | why? |
| 03:48.05 | batrick | you can't have two increments in a row, it's in the standard |
| 03:48.08 | Shirik | oh |
| 03:48.15 | batrick | gcc shouldn't let it tokenize a second ++ afterwards |
| 03:48.16 | Shirik | oh duh, you're incrementing something that isn't an L-value |
| 03:48.18 | Shirik | of course |
| 03:48.37 | Shirik | ok, now, why is (i++) + (++j) not legal? |
| 03:48.45 | Shirik | it said it needs an l-value |
| 03:48.45 | batrick | it is legal? |
| 03:48.55 | Shirik | I thought that's what i++++j is supposed to be? |
| 03:49.07 | batrick | you're confusing the hell out of me |
| 03:49.12 | batrick | lol |
| 03:49.20 | Shirik | 14(2211:4711:0114) 14(1115batrick14) i++ + ++j |
| 03:49.24 | Shirik | 14(2211:4611:4114) 14(11+Shirik14) so it should be, what |
| 03:49.40 | Shirik | thus my compiler shouldn't give an error, no? |
| 03:49.46 | batrick | right |
| 03:49.47 | batrick | ... |
| 03:49.54 | Shirik | but it does |
| 03:50.23 | batrick | i++ + ++j is an expression |
| 03:50.27 | batrick | you need to assign it |
| 03:50.32 | batrick | or do something with it |
| 03:50.40 | Shirik | 1; is a valid statement in C :) |
| 03:50.51 | Shirik | but just to prove the point, I did try to assign it and had the same problem |
| 03:51.08 | batrick | what's the error message? |
| 03:51.13 | batrick | same thing? lvalue? |
| 03:51.19 | Shirik | error C2105: '++' needs l-value |
| 03:51.20 | Shirik | yeah |
| 03:51.26 | Shirik | for int n = i+++++c; |
| 03:51.38 | Shirik | putting spaces in resolves it |
| 03:51.46 | batrick | right... |
| 03:51.48 | batrick | lol |
| 03:51.48 | Shirik | I'm thinking it's trying to do ((i++)++) + c |
| 03:52.17 | batrick | ok we were misunderstanding each other |
| 03:52.31 | batrick | i thought you meant typing in: i = j++ + ++k; is an invalid statement |
| 03:52.53 | batrick | and yes, that's exactly what it's trying to do |
| 03:53.01 | Shirik | ok |
| 03:53.50 | batrick | what i'm saying mostly is that gcc isn't following the standard :) |
| 03:54.23 | Lonny2 | Is there any elegant method in Ace-3.0 that allow me to reference my own lib to the returned object of "NewAddon" ? I've done it already however I'm kinda new to Ace and I wonder if Ace-3.0 has a built in method to do so ? |
| 03:54.29 | Shirik | because, you know, Microsoft always follows standards |
| 03:54.46 | Lonny2 | Similar to the following example, LibStub("AceAddon-3.0"):NewAddon("MyAddonName", "MyNewAddonLib-1.0", "AceConsole-3.0", "AceEvent-3.0") |
| 03:54.50 | batrick | what does microsoft have to do with it lol? |
| 03:55.00 | Shirik | Just saying, I think we can let gcc off the hook |
| 03:55.07 | Shirik | #include <pthread.h> |
| 03:55.22 | Shirik | fatal error C1083: Cannot open include file: 'pthread.h': No such file or directory |
| 03:56.30 | MentalPower | lua> 9300000/2000 |
| 03:56.31 | lua_bot | MentalPower: 4650 |
| 03:56.56 | MentalPower | ^^^^ WoW Subscriber:GM ratio |
| 03:57.23 | Shirik | that's really not bad |
| 03:57.48 | Kaso | where'd you get the 2000 figure? |
| 03:57.53 | batrick | "i = i++" |
| 03:57.56 | batrick | hehe, that's fun |
| 03:59.07 | Kaso | thats pretty cute actually |
| 03:59.46 | MentalPower | Kaso: Activision Blizzaard investors conference call |
| 03:59.50 | MentalPower | http://library.corporate-ir.net/library/13/131/131837/items/271940/ActivisionBlizzard_Final.pdf |
| 04:00.31 | WobWork | Actizzard |
| 04:00.37 | WobWork | Blizzivision |
| 04:00.53 | WobWork | Blactivision |
| 04:00.54 | Kaso | Actiblizzion |
| 04:01.18 | MentalPower | Activision Blizzard |
| 04:01.25 | MentalPower | they're not going to dilute well known names |
| 04:01.33 | MentalPower | perhaps eventually shrink it down |
| 04:01.39 | MentalPower | but not for a while |
| 04:02.10 | Kaso | Activision may be a well known name, but does anyone care about it? Wow this game was published by activision??! i must buy it |
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| 04:03.41 | Lukian | Kaso, blizzard and activision games will still be labelled as such |
| 04:03.44 | Lukian | even in the future |
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| 04:05.32 | |Jelly| | Doubles are fun! |
| 04:07.03 | Thunder_Child | |Jelly|, tennis or sex? |
| 04:07.21 | Kaso | i was thinking the data types :< |
| 04:07.24 | |Jelly| | Work shifts. |
| 04:07.25 | Kaso | man im a nerd |
| 04:08.22 | batrick | Shirik: i'm getting mixed opinions about the validity of x+++++y, they even mention it in the standard and it seems that they say it is incorrect |
| 04:08.29 | batrick | but not clearly |
| 04:08.52 | batrick | perhaps that book i was reading was trash after all |
| 04:11.38 | |Jelly| | Cairenn: Ping? |
| 04:11.48 | batrick | pong?! |
| 04:11.55 | Cairenn | |Jelly|: pong |
| 04:12.48 | WobWork | The very fact that there is anything standardised about x+++++y makes me want to stab someone =P |
| 04:13.22 | batrick | but it's pretty |
| 04:13.56 | batrick | night all |
| 04:14.48 | Cairenn | night batrick |
| 04:21.50 | WobWork | hum |
| 04:22.01 | WobWork | the 5sr kicks in on actual cast completion, yeh? |
| 04:23.49 | NightHawkTheSane | yes |
| 04:23.49 | Xinhuan | ya |
| 04:23.55 | NightHawkTheSane | whenever the mana is used, basically |
| 04:24.23 | WobWork | hm, what do people have against downranking heals? |
| 04:25.48 | Kaso | Lower ranked heals gain less +heal benifit |
| 04:28.00 | Thunder_Child | http://www.maximumpc.com/article/the_100_greatest_tech_innovations_of_all_time?page=0%2C0 |
| 04:28.24 | WobWork | Kaso: true, but at the right rank, it's more mana efficient, no? |
| 04:28.30 | WobWork | no need to maxrank cast all the time |
| 04:28.43 | WobWork | (plus more chance for clearcasting if specced) |
| 04:28.45 | Kaso | indeed, i usualy keep like 4 different ranks on actionbars |
| 04:29.02 | Kaso | i'd hope most healers do something similar |
| 04:29.16 | WobWork | just reading opinions being touted =P |
| 04:30.03 | WobWork | I've always multranked my heals |
| 04:30.59 | Kaso | it sorta depends on the type of damage your tank is taking i guess, if it's highly predictable and you can get away with >5sec gaps between heals you wanna try catch all the regen you can, but thats a infrequent occurance |
| 04:32.12 | Shirik | WobWork: Class? |
| 04:32.48 | JoshBorke | priests should catch the 5sr |
| 04:32.54 | JoshBorke | gh, cancel if not needed |
| 04:33.00 | Shirik | Priests should have no problem getting the 5sr |
| 04:33.07 | Shirik | only rarely should you need to get a break for more than 2s |
| 04:34.44 | WobWork | priests |
| 04:35.12 | WobWork | I should try to get back to my priest |
| 04:35.42 | |Jelly| | !c us velen youtehsuxorz |
| 04:35.44 | ThraeBot | |Jelly|: Youtehsuxorz, Level 53 Dwarf Warrior (41/3/0). 3711 HP; 3344 Armour; 465 AP; 69.100 Melee DPS; 8.46% melee crit; 11 +spell dmg/heal; 5.59% dodge; 4.76% block; 10 frost resist (+10);[[ TBR: 769 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/2xws6h ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/2porrc ][ Updated: Mon Dec 3 23:36:12 2007 EST ]] |
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| 04:36.46 | WobWork | hm, http://www.thinkgeek.com/homeoffice/gear/8e82/ |
| 04:36.49 | WobWork | that's kinda cool |
| 04:37.39 | Cairenn | veat |
| 04:37.44 | Cairenn | neat* |
| 04:38.51 | WobWork | aw |
| 04:38.51 | WobWork | http://www.thinkgeek.com/homeoffice/gear/86dd/ |
| 04:38.56 | WobWork | I want that sold here =( |
| 04:40.23 | Cairenn | heh |
| 04:41.13 | Mr_Rabies2 | i could make you one |
| 04:41.48 | Mr_Rabies2 | with a real gerbil that was once alive until i decided to make a knife holder from him |
| 04:42.24 | Shirik | !ap 1529 |
| 04:42.24 | ThraeBot | Shirik: Arena points from a rating of 1529 is, 2v2: 286, 3v3: 331, 5v5: 376 |
| 04:42.30 | Shirik | !ap 1568 |
| 04:42.31 | ThraeBot | Shirik: Arena points from a rating of 1568 is, 2v2: 322, 3v3: 373, 5v5: 423 |
| 04:42.41 | |Jelly| | Seriously Cairenn. I want the black on, plix. |
| 04:43.11 | Shirik | black? |
| 04:43.19 | |Jelly| | s/on/one/ |
| 04:43.22 | Cairenn | seriously |Jelly|, ask someone else for it, I wouldn't give that even as a gag gift |
| 04:43.33 | Cairenn | :p |
| 04:45.59 | Thunder_Child | ya, because thats perfectly safe |
| 04:46.11 | Thunder_Child | much safer than a block of wood or something |
| 04:46.18 | |Jelly| | Cleaner. That's for sure. |
| 04:46.25 | |Jelly| | ...and it's a KNIFE... |
| 04:46.26 | Thunder_Child | oh, and the black ones raceist |
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| 04:46.27 | WobWork | well it's magnetised |
| 04:46.38 | WobWork | so it technically should hold the blade somewhat solidly |
| 04:46.42 | Mr_Rabies2 | if i was rich and this wasn't so expensive it'd make a great gag gift http://www.zoofur.com/thor.html [definitely not work safe] |
| 04:46.48 | Mr_Rabies2 | pun not intended |
| 04:46.52 | Mr_Rabies2 | gag gift, /cry |
| 04:46.54 | Thunder_Child | i didnt mean falling out i mean that the blades are exposed |
| 04:47.14 | WobWork | it has plastic sheathes behind it |
| 04:47.47 | Cairenn | Mr_Rabies2: *shudder* |
| 04:47.56 | Mr_Rabies2 | that just seems impractical |
| 04:47.59 | Mr_Rabies2 | i mean |
| 04:48.05 | Mr_Rabies2 | there's no use for it than for laughs, i hope |
| 04:48.08 | Thunder_Child | so it does.. |
| 04:48.26 | Mr_Rabies2 | i hold out enough faith in humanity that it's designed for gag gifts |
| 04:48.32 | Mr_Rabies2 | and then i look at the rest of the page :( |
| 04:49.02 | Rayne | O_o |
| 04:49.47 | Mr_Rabies2 | is that in reference to thor |
| 04:49.56 | Mr_Rabies2 | because throatpunch is a definite possibility with thor |
| 04:50.06 | |Jelly| | roflamo |
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| 04:51.56 | Shirik | ~hug |Jelly| |
| 04:51.56 | purl | ACTION sneaks up on |Jelly| and suddenly hugs |Jelly| tightly |
| 04:52.10 | Rayne | Well |
| 04:52.14 | Rayne | time to find out what happens to my guild |
| 04:52.16 | Rayne | brb |
| 04:53.15 | Shirik | rofl |Jelly| |
| 04:53.19 | Shirik | that knife thing |
| 04:53.22 | Shirik | you want one? |
| 04:53.26 | |Jelly| | YES |
| 04:53.38 | Shirik | I'll get you one :P |
| 04:56.00 | |Jelly| | wewt |
| 05:05.12 | Corrodias | i need straws. |
| 05:07.47 | Rayne | omfg I love this show |
| 05:07.55 | Corrodias | mmm mmm mmmmmm |
| 05:08.09 | Corrodias | white russian with mint chocolate irish creme (blonde russian) |
| 05:08.14 | Corrodias | cream |
| 05:08.15 | Corrodias | whatever |
| 05:10.21 | art3mis | what show? |
| 05:10.39 | WobWork | http://www.thinkgeek.com/gadgets/tools/8b97/ |
| 05:10.40 | WobWork | win |
| 05:11.26 | Shirik | ok yes |
| 05:11.30 | Shirik | I want to take that on a plane with me |
| 05:11.46 | art3mis | heh |
| 05:11.58 | art3mis | its not a threat it prolly weighs like 15 lbs ;P |
| 05:12.10 | art3mis | and would take you about 6 minutes to get the right "knife" out |
| 05:12.15 | WobWork | You don't even need to get the knife out |
| 05:12.21 | WobWork | just bludgeon someone with the entire thing =P |
| 05:12.30 | art3mis | heh |
| 05:12.56 | Cairenn | according to the page - 3lbs |
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| 05:18.33 | Paradox | you can do /script UIErrorsFrame:Hide(); |
| 05:18.42 | Paradox | is there anything like that to disable the error sound effect? |
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| 05:28.40 | Lonny2 | Paradox try /run SetCVar("Sound_EnableSFX,"0") |
| 05:29.53 | Paradox | ')' expected near '0' |
| 05:30.15 | Lonny2 | :D |
| 05:30.36 | Lonny2 | ... /run SetCVar("Sound_EnableSFX","0") |
| 05:30.41 | dylanm | How will we ever track this error down????? |
| 05:32.09 | Paradox | yeah uh |
| 05:32.16 | Paradox | that disables all sound effects :/ |
| 05:32.21 | Paradox | but im sure you knew that |
| 05:32.50 | Lonny2 | Yup I do :) |
| 05:33.10 | |Jelly| | SO ADD THE ,"1") MACRO AT THE END. |
| 05:33.13 | |Jelly| | oops |
| 05:33.21 | Lonny2 | yup :) |
| 05:34.43 | Lonny | Is there any elegant method in Ace-3.0 that allow me to reference my own lib to the returned object of "NewAddon" ? I've done it already however I'm kinda new to Ace and I wonder if Ace-3.0 has a built in method to do so ? |
| 05:34.51 | Lonny | Similar to the following example, LibStub("AceAddon-3.0"):NewAddon("MyAddonName", "MyNewAddonLib-1.0", "AceConsole-3.0", "AceEvent-3.0") |
| 05:35.10 | Paradox | I don't want to not hear any sound effects for the duration of the macro ;/ |
| 05:35.33 | |Jelly| | Macros draw in between frames. : / |
| 05:35.40 | |Jelly| | errm work inbetween frame draws |
| 05:35.44 | |Jelly| | RUN |
| 05:35.47 | |Jelly| | damnit. I give up. |
| 05:35.50 | Shirik | Oh danny boy |
| 05:35.58 | Shirik | the pipes, the pipes are calling... |
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| 05:36.09 | Shirik | <3 this song but it's stuck in my head >< |
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| 05:44.02 | Shirik | lol: |
| 05:44.03 | Shirik | unsigned int BuildFileList(char***, int**); |
| 05:44.08 | Shirik | I wonder if there's any way I can make it uglier |
| 05:47.57 | dylanm | More Hungarian notation |
| 05:48.05 | dylanm | although I'm not seeing variable names there really |
| 05:50.21 | Shirik | Hungarian notation ftl |
| 05:50.35 | Shirik | and there's no variable names there because that's a prototype |
| 05:50.44 | dylanm | Well right |
| 05:50.52 | dylanm | But I'm saying that if, in general, ugliness is your goal |
| 05:51.03 | dylanm | It's a good place to start |
| 05:51.07 | Shirik | I never got into that :P |
| 05:53.36 | WobWork | aw man |
| 05:53.40 | WobWork | stupid thinkgeek |
| 05:53.42 | WobWork | making me want to buy stuff |
| 05:53.52 | WobWork | like a 10 colour led torch |
| 05:53.56 | WobWork | which I don't need |
| 05:53.57 | WobWork | but omg cool |
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| 06:07.21 | Mike-N-Go | I'm trying to help a friend leave his 2 vs 2 arena group so he can join mine. |
| 06:08.19 | Mike-N-Go | I can't see the text in this room!? |
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| 06:09.43 | Mike-N-Go | Hello. |
| 06:09.53 | |Jelly| | Hi |
| 06:10.19 | Mike-N-Go | Was having a problem with my client or something.. |
| 06:10.35 | Mike-N-Go | At any rate, I am trying to aid a friend in leaving his arena team. |
| 06:10.47 | Mike-N-Go | He is the captain of it. |
| 06:11.17 | Mike-N-Go | He says /teamquit 2v2 and /script ArenaTeamDisband(1) does not work. |
| 06:11.20 | Mike-N-Go | Any ideas? |
| 06:12.08 | Thunder_Child | promote someone else then quit? |
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| 06:14.35 | Mike-N-Go | My client is still buggy. |
| 06:16.05 | Mike-N-Go | What were you saying? |
| 06:16.32 | Shirik | 14(0111:1211:0814) 14(1115Thunder_Child14) promote someone else then quit? |
| 06:17.38 | Mike-N-Go | Need someone else in the team first. |
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| 06:22.28 | bleeter | http://i8.tinypic.com/72tpyyp.jpg |
| 06:22.49 | bleeter | WTB: [Bigger soapbox] |
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| 06:26.13 | reqol | where's a good place to start learning how to create frames and such with only lua? just play around with the widget api? |
| 06:29.35 | Shirik | warning C4706: assignment within conditional expression |
| 06:29.38 | Shirik | ~lart MSVC |
| 06:29.38 | purl | executes killall -KILL MSVC |
| 06:29.51 | Shirik | Just because I know C doesn't mean you should yell at me for using it cleverly! |
| 06:30.19 | Shirik | reqol: http://www.wowwiki.com/API but I strongly recommend just looking at others' code |
| 06:30.30 | Shirik | not conspiracy or RDX, heh, something simple. |
| 06:30.47 | Shirik | http://www.wowwiki.com/Widget_API will be helpful too |
| 06:31.49 | reqol | aye |
| 06:32.16 | reqol | I can't find anyone that uses solely lua though |
| 06:32.23 | Guillotine | lol@hunters trying to kite as a clicker without any turning keys >< |
| 06:32.36 | Guillotine | worst kiters EVER |
| 06:33.06 | Xinhuan | Mike-N-Go: /teamdisband 2v2 |
| 06:33.25 | Mike-N-Go | He sold it for 20G =P |
| 06:33.27 | Shirik | reqol: RDX does, but I don't think using that would be useful |
| 06:33.27 | Guillotine | reqol: I use only lua :) |
| 06:33.27 | Shirik | um.... |
| 06:33.30 | Xinhuan | lol 20g |
| 06:33.34 | Shirik | Cidan wrote up a really really really quick overview |
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| 06:33.44 | Shirik | like not even kidding, it's something like 20 minutes long |
| 06:33.47 | Mike-N-Go | Rather good, for not being able to pick the name. |
| 06:35.51 | reqol | could you link me to it? |
| 06:36.21 | Shirik | http://conspiracy-ui.com/lua |
| 06:36.21 | Shirik | lol |
| 06:36.25 | Shirik | "foxlit sucks, this is a comment too" |
| 06:37.38 | Guillotine | reqol: uhhh. what addon? |
| 06:37.52 | Guillotine | I suppose I can post my lua version of Combine |
| 06:37.59 | Guillotine | most of mine don't have much GUI |
| 06:38.02 | Guillotine | but that one does |
| 06:38.39 | reqol | would it be better for me to just learn XML? |
| 06:38.58 | reqol | I most likely would not have difficulties with it, I'd just prefer to be able to handle everything with 1 language |
| 06:39.28 | Shirik | "better" ? |
| 06:39.35 | Shirik | They're just different |
| 06:39.58 | Shirik | If you need dynamic frame creation, you MUST use Lua. If you need to be able to create virtual frames, you MUST use XML. Otherwise, you can use both, and it's entirely a matter of opinion. |
| 06:40.20 | reqol | what are virtual frames? |
| 06:40.47 | Shirik | essentially a frame that isn't a frame. Its only purpose is to base other frames off it. |
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| 06:42.27 | reqol | sort of like a framework for other frames? |
| 06:43.41 | Shirik | sure |
| 06:44.42 | reqol | well I come from an oop language, is it at all similar to that? |
| 06:45.30 | reqol | I mean I can see why it would be useful, but do you think learning XML just for that feature would be worth it? |
| 06:45.38 | Guillotine | Shirik: you can do virtual frames with lua |
| 06:45.41 | Guillotine | well, pretty much |
| 06:45.43 | Guillotine | via a function |
| 06:45.49 | Guillotine | works just as well |
| 06:45.50 | Shirik | well yeah |
| 06:45.51 | Guillotine | and is more dynamic |
| 06:46.02 | Shirik | but that's not really a virtual frame |
| 06:46.07 | Shirik | though it has the same purpose |
| 06:46.25 | Shirik | and this is why I don't use xml at all :P Don't see the need for it, and it confuses me |
| 06:46.57 | reqol | I don't see any widget API for 'frames' |
| 06:47.08 | reqol | or do they only house the other parts |
| 06:47.12 | reqol | such as buttons, etc |
| 06:47.27 | reqol | I just want to set it's background and border |
| 06:55.47 | Shirik | ??? |
| 06:55.52 | Shirik | since when is "array" a keyword? |
| 06:56.04 | Shirik | (in C++) |
| 06:57.30 | Thunder_Child | since you just found out? |
| 06:58.07 | MentalPower | Shirik: are you scouring the C++ spec? |
| 06:58.22 | Shirik | no, I'm just writing this code |
| 06:58.26 | Shirik | and array becomes highlighted blue |
| 06:59.20 | Thunder_Child | Shirik, i cant find any referance to that |
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| 07:01.14 | Thunder_Child | Shirik, doest work on mine |
| 07:01.21 | Shirik | wierd |
| 07:01.29 | Thunder_Child | try a diff IDE |
| 07:01.53 | Shirik | nah |
| 07:01.58 | Shirik | I <3 Visual studio way too much |
| 07:02.11 | Thunder_Child | i meant try one to see if the same thing happens there |
| 07:02.16 | Thunder_Child | not switch |
| 07:02.42 | Shirik | oh |
| 07:02.45 | Shirik | too tired to do this now :P |
| 07:03.17 | reqol | could someone look at my first addon and tell me where I could simplify things, and what I've done that might be considered bad practice? : http://wowi.pastey.net/78442 |
| 07:03.34 | Shirik | Bad practice #1: No comments |
| 07:04.00 | Duman | ugh |
| 07:04.06 | Duman | my realm is 100% hozed |
| 07:04.22 | reqol | Shirik: indeed, i'll go through it and add them then repost it |
| 07:04.24 | reqol | sound good? |
| 07:04.29 | Shirik | no :P |
| 07:04.31 | reqol | :( |
| 07:04.34 | Shirik | it's simple enough that I can read it |
| 07:04.42 | Shirik | I find commenting after the fact to be a pointless practice, tbh |
| 07:05.11 | NightHawkTheSane | Commenting after the fact is only particularly useful for multi-developer environments. |
| 07:05.28 | NightHawkTheSane | or if you're likely to leave code for months and then come back to it, wondering what in gods name it actually does. |
| 07:05.52 | reqol | I tend to make all of my variable and function names as informational as possible |
| 07:06.27 | Shirik | NightHawkTheSane: I would argue then you should be commenting while coding :) |
| 07:06.58 | Shirik | It's my personal opinion that the only time you fully understand what you're doing (or intending) is at the instant you write the code |
| 07:07.04 | NightHawkTheSane | Shirik: well, thats always the case |
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| 07:08.30 | Shirik | hehe |
| 07:08.32 | Shirik | best comment ever |
| 07:08.44 | Shirik | * @param array A pointer to a pointer to a pointer to a character |
| 07:08.44 | Shirik | * array indicating where to store the address of the newly allocated |
| 07:08.44 | Shirik | * array of strings. |
| 07:08.49 | NightHawkTheSane | But when you've got multiple developers working on the same code, after-the-fact comments are still better than nothing |
| 07:09.55 | Thunder_Child | wired has an awesome article about futureama |
| 07:10.12 | Thunder_Child | futurama* |
| 07:10.15 | NightHawkTheSane | That's so three days ago. :P |
| 07:10.27 | Thunder_Child | it's a big mag, just got around to it |
| 07:10.45 | NightHawkTheSane | but it is a pretty good article |
| 07:11.11 | Thunder_Child | s/pretty good/awesome/ |
| 07:11.25 | NightHawkTheSane | lets compromise, "pretty awesome" |
| 07:11.34 | Thunder_Child | ~lart NightHawkTheSane |
| 07:11.34 | purl | shoves a crumpet down NightHawkTheSane's throat, happy now?! Huh? Want some JAM with that? |
| 07:11.58 | NightHawkTheSane | mmm...crumpets. |
| 07:14.29 | reqol | is there anything I can do to speed up loading? currently it's fairly slow and aggravating |
| 07:14.35 | reqol | besides deleting addons ;p |
| 07:14.55 | Thunder_Child | faster computer |
| 07:15.28 | Shirik | Creating an addon that starts with a ! in its name that does a seterrorhandler(function() end); setfenv(0, {}) |
| 07:15.55 | reqol | Thunder_Child: my computer is pretty fast as it stands |
| 07:15.59 | MentalPower | Shirik: how the hell will that help? |
| 07:16.17 | Shirik | Just about every addon will throw an error during startup, which will then cause it to stop loading :) |
| 07:16.37 | Thunder_Child | reqol, be that as it may, a faster computer WILL speed it up |
| 07:19.21 | Shirik | sigh... error LNK2019: unresolved external symbol _mysql_real_connect@32 referenced in function _main |
| 07:19.22 | Shirik | I give up for tonight |
| 07:19.31 | Shirik | night |
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| 07:35.12 | ScytheBlade1 | Cairenn|afk: I just saw on the site that I'm a premium member... and just saw your message... thank you :) |
| 07:35.54 | ScytheBlade1 | Cairenn|afk: was a nice, unexpected bonus and in all truth, you outlined my intentions perfectly clearly... I'm a geek, and I was having fun... so you can see why I said unexpected. Just the same, thanks. |
| 07:38.04 | bleeter | what? FREE SHINIES AND I MISSED OUT! /wrist ;) |
| 07:38.41 | reqol | iis there any kind of a constant in lua? |
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| 07:41.33 | MentalPower|ZzZz | reqol: no |
| 07:41.44 | MentalPower|ZzZz | you should really read PiL |
| 07:41.56 | krka | all numbers and strings are constants |
| 07:42.16 | krka | and booleans |
| 07:42.17 | Antiarc | Well |
| 07:42.21 | nevcairiel | but thats not what he meant, and you know it :P |
| 07:42.46 | krka | you could make a read only global environment if you wanted to |
| 07:43.05 | krka | or use function return values |
| 07:43.15 | reqol | I mainly wanted to replace a few literals with a constant for readability, but it doesn't matter all too much |
| 07:43.18 | krka | function pi() return 4 end |
| 07:43.26 | nevcairiel | or just dont bother and use variables |
| 07:43.35 | nevcairiel | make it ALL_CAPS and it looks constant-ish |
| 07:44.20 | MentalPower|ZzZz | function random() return 4 end --Determined by random dice roll, guaranteed to be random :) |
| 07:44.33 | nevcairiel | haha thats the best |
| 07:45.14 | Taeri | I hate mornings, they're filled with queues on the road, stupid drivers. And boyfriends who oversleep and miss their busses >___> |
| 07:48.16 | bleeter | time for /gkick boyfriend && /ginvite <random_bloke_from_#wowi_lounge> ? |
| 07:48.39 | Taeri | >__> |
| 07:48.44 | nevcairiel | sounds like bleeter is volunteering |
| 07:48.51 | bleeter | well |
| 07:49.03 | Taeri | random blokes scare me! |
| 07:49.07 | bleeter | there's a distinct advantage, which is probably the same disadvantage |
| 07:49.29 | bleeter | I'd be 'oversleeping' all the time given I'm.. what.. 12 hours or so ahead of most folks in this # :P |
| 07:49.45 | bleeter | tho I guess, thru math tricks, it could be considered undersleeping |
| 07:49.53 | Taeri | haha :D |
| 07:50.01 | Taeri | where are you located in the world then? |
| 07:50.09 | bleeter | on my chair :P |
| 07:50.12 | nevcairiel | crazytown. |
| 07:50.19 | nevcairiel | er, aussie land |
| 07:50.23 | bleeter | yup, chair, crazytown. |
| 07:50.31 | Taeri | Aha1 |
| 07:50.32 | Taeri | ! |
| 07:53.37 | nevcairiel | judging from the fact that Taeri just complained about mornings and all, i would guess EU somewhere .. /me looks host name up .. ah well, norway or somewhere around there |
| 07:53.58 | Taeri | you're scarily correct >__> |
| 07:54.13 | reqol | is there anyway to open the mailbox short of clicking on it? my friend is having trouble because there are two taurens on their kodos blocking it. |
| 07:54.16 | Taeri | <- Norwegian |
| 07:54.17 | reqol | I'm guessing not, but it's worth asking |
| 07:54.42 | MentalPower|ZzZz | User Taeri, (n=user@90.80-203-213.nextgentel.com) “meg” (here), member of #wowi-lounge, is connected to <irc://irc.freenode.net/>, 0 hop(s). |
| 07:54.48 | MentalPower|ZzZz | End of WHO results for “Taeri”, 1 user(s) found. |
| 07:55.20 | nevcairiel | yeah nextgentel is a norwegian isp, that was an easy one =P |
| 07:55.22 | MentalPower|ZzZz | then resolve the hostname and use an IP geolocation service and violá instant location |
| 07:55.32 | nevcairiel | even easier, google nextgentel |
| 07:55.33 | nevcairiel | :) |
| 07:55.42 | zenzio | when it's not an IP it's easier to just google the provider |
| 07:55.54 | Taeri | nextgentel <3 |
| 07:56.00 | MentalPower|ZzZz | meh |
| 07:56.03 | Taeri | but yeah, you guys have awesome staling powers |
| 07:56.06 | nevcairiel | its telia, no <3 involved there for me |
| 07:56.21 | bleeter | reqol: stand on 'inside' the taurens, and zoom right in |
| 07:56.57 | bleeter | man geoiplookup, no need for IPs :P |
| 07:57.12 | Taeri | actually no, I won't jump into bed, I will use the oppertunity of an early morning and do some laundry or something. |
| 07:57.21 | bleeter | or was that Sammy? |
| 07:57.23 | bleeter | :/ |
| 07:58.22 | Thunder_Child | i need to go to bed |
| 07:58.56 | Thunder_Child | but....na |
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| 08:02.24 | Taeri | waaaah |
| 08:03.03 | Taeri | I'm in big doodoo if I can't borrow a car tomorrow |
| 08:05.00 | Thunder_Child | bus ftw? |
| 08:05.32 | Taeri | it's a tight fit. And the busses in this place confuse the heck out of me. |
| 08:05.35 | Taeri | but I'll find a way! |
| 08:05.42 | bleeter | segway! |
| 08:06.50 | Taeri | I'm delivering my car tomorrow morning, and the people will replace my front window. |
| 08:07.27 | zenzio | which town is this? |
| 08:07.30 | Taeri | and a bit after that, I'm going to NAV (uuh.. unemploymentoffice?) to have a long and nice discussion with them. |
| 08:07.32 | Taeri | Bergen |
| 08:07.46 | zenzio | don't know anything about the buses there :-| |
| 08:08.13 | Taeri | their buss website is even confusing. |
| 08:08.14 | bleeter | zenzio: they have wheels... and.. at least one window.. the occasional mirror. and a driver. |
| 08:08.34 | bleeter | tho I'm sure some of those details are optional ;) |
| 08:08.39 | zenzio | bleeter: wow! We have some like that down here too! |
| 08:08.58 | zenzio | Taeri: find a better town ;) |
| 08:09.02 | Thunder_Child | the drivers brain need not apply though |
| 08:12.26 | Rayne | Over. Played. Layout. http://i8.tinypic.com/6z3yz5j.jpg |
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| 08:57.40 | reqol | the pil confuses me on the purpose of a metatable, could someone give me a brief explanation? |
| 08:59.15 | cladhaire | hrm |
| 08:59.20 | cladhaire | lemme find that chaper |
| 09:01.00 | cladhaire | Each table in Lua is capable of having a metatable attached to it. A metatable is a secondary table that gives Lua extra information about how that table should be treated when it is used. For example by default, when you try to print a table you are given a string that looks something like table: 0x30d470, which isn't extremely readable. Lua provides a way to change this behavior using metatables and metamethods. |
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| 09:03.02 | cladhaire | This is the part on metatables from the new book: http://files.gammatester.com/1e5cd2b84fdde2db6581b9705a9b0415.pdf |
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| 09:06.06 | cladhaire | reqol: see if that helps |
| 09:06.11 | cladhaire | there's more than that, but it sholud give you a good idea |
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| 09:09.23 | reqol | cladhaire: thanks a lot! this helps quite a bit. |
| 09:10.56 | cladhaire | that's why we're writign it |
| 09:11.00 | cladhaire | ~wowprogramming |
| 09:11.01 | purl | rumour has it, wowprogramming is World of Warcraft Programming: A Guide and Reference for Creating WoW Addons, a book written by Cladhaire, Kaelten and Cogwheel. It serves as a technical reference for the WoW API and customization system (Due out Early 2008). http://tinyurl.com/2vtlya |
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| 09:21.41 | reqol | oh wow |
| 09:21.43 | reqol | I will buy that ASAP |
| 09:21.46 | reqol | when it comes out |
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| 09:25.21 | cladhaire | reqol: it'll be out in april |
| 09:25.26 | cladhaire | we're finishig up the API reference as we speak |
| 09:26.52 | nevcairiel | with the general luck wotlk will be out a month after that and screw the API refs |
| 09:30.04 | nevcairiel | but thats the fate of every printed API =) |
| 09:31.22 | sioraiocht_ | nevcairiel: i'd choose your words wisely around cladhaire, he's low on sleep =p |
| 09:31.31 | cladhaire | lol |
| 09:31.35 | krka | nevcairiel: i heard that cladhaire has promised to send out updated api version after every major blizzard patch |
| 09:31.42 | cladhaire | it'll be on the web |
| 09:31.43 | cladhaire | yep |
| 09:31.48 | krka | i meant in print |
| 09:31.52 | nevcairiel | heh |
| 09:32.01 | nevcairiel | on the web is nice enough |
| 09:32.05 | sioraiocht_ | stop ruining the rumour-mongering, cladhaire. it's fun |
| 09:32.42 | krka | i think we should call the next exp wolk, it's much easier to pronounce |
| 09:35.11 | nevcairiel | BC or TBC was nice .. but WotlK .. |
| 09:36.50 | reqol | I pronounce it "wah-tulk' |
| 09:37.19 | nevcairiel | my guildy say wotl-k |
| 09:37.25 | nevcairiel | +s |
| 09:37.29 | nevcairiel | dunno what to say really |
| 09:37.45 | |Pixel| | "wrath" |
| 09:37.49 | krka | wottelkay |
| 09:43.23 | Rayne | nomnomnom |
| 09:44.15 | cladhaire | wow. |
| 09:44.21 | cladhaire | we just got 9 rating in a 2v2 match |
| 09:44.24 | cladhaire | how horrible were they |
| 09:44.40 | nevcairiel | hah |
| 09:45.32 | cladhaire | !c us stormrage gannt |
| 09:46.05 | cladhaire | that's my new 2v2 partner, for this week at least :P |
| 09:46.21 | testleK|away | so quick question |
| 09:46.49 | testleK | I downloaded tinypad and faiap... |
| 09:47.08 | testleK | what can and cant I do in there (functionwise) |
| 09:47.21 | testleK | like it doesnt let me test if then statements? |
| 09:47.30 | nevcairiel | you can do anything |
| 09:47.30 | amro | it runs any lua code |
| 09:47.50 | testleK | hmm |
| 09:47.51 | testleK | so |
| 09:48.15 | testleK | if I copy my (basic) entire addon into it it should work? |
| 09:48.25 | amro | depends |
| 09:48.53 | amro | does your addon use xml? |
| 09:48.55 | reqol | quick question, if a function is called with no argument, but the function takes an argument, will the argument be considered nil in the body of the function? |
| 09:48.56 | testleK | assuming it works loaded outside of course |
| 09:49.00 | testleK | and no xml |
| 09:49.04 | nevcairiel | reqol: yes |
| 09:49.08 | cladhaire | well not entirely no |
| 09:49.17 | cladhaire | to testleK |
| 09:49.18 | cladhaire | rather |
| 09:49.25 | cladhaire | testleK: do you respond to any initialization events |
| 09:49.27 | cladhaire | like PLAYER_LOGIN |
| 09:49.31 | testleK | no |
| 09:49.32 | cladhaire | PLAYER_ENTERING_WORLD |
| 09:49.34 | cladhaire | VARIABLES_LOADED |
| 09:49.36 | cladhaire | then yes, in theory |
| 09:49.36 | reqol | are events that won't fire |
| 09:49.37 | testleK | only slash command |
| 09:49.41 | reqol | ? |
| 09:50.01 | testleK | I only respond to slash commands |
| 09:50.17 | testleK | then prints text based off of the slashcommand |
| 09:50.53 | amro | reqol: they'd have already been fired once you get to use tinypad |
| 09:51.10 | reqol | yeah |
| 09:51.13 | reqol | I figured as much |
| 09:51.21 | reqol | I really like WoWLua |
| 09:51.45 | reqol | as well as the /dump feature of dev tools |
| 09:52.18 | testleK | ok i figured it out |
| 09:52.22 | testleK | ty |
| 09:52.31 | testleK | user error :P |
| 09:52.47 | testleK | so one last question |
| 09:53.08 | testleK | is there anyway to unload the code so you can make changes and test the changes? |
| 09:53.46 | testleK | or simply re-running the code suffecient? |
| 09:54.01 | cladhaire | reqol: i'm working on a tinypad fearture for wowlua |
| 09:54.02 | cladhaire | with print() |
| 09:54.04 | cladhaire | and everything |
| 09:54.05 | cladhaire | it'll be nice |
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| 09:55.57 | reqol | cladhaire: delicious :D |
| 09:56.10 | reqol | I sure do love 'feartures' :) |
| 09:56.26 | reqol | my latenight humor is somewhat dry, forgive me. |
| 09:57.00 | cladhaire | :P |
| 09:57.58 | reqol | so how far along are your guilds in pve, everyone? |
| 09:58.08 | amro | nowhere |
| 09:58.13 | reqol | : ( |
| 09:58.27 | testleK | <-- doesnt guild |
| 09:58.37 | reqol | second day attempting morogrim and farthest we got him was ~70% |
| 09:58.49 | reqol | I love raiding |
| 09:58.51 | reqol | good fun with friends |
| 09:58.57 | reqol | suppose arena could easily be the same |
| 09:59.05 | reqol | or ANY aspect of the game |
| 09:59.22 | nevcairiel | hm, we cleared the game, getting quite boring now |
| 09:59.46 | nevcairiel | wtb 2.4 |
| 09:59.58 | cladhaire | lol |
| 09:59.59 | testleK | lol |
| 10:00.07 | testleK | should do what i do |
| 10:00.18 | testleK | had my sub since 05 |
| 10:00.25 | testleK | and highest level is 39:P |
| 10:01.01 | testleK | nowhere near running out of content :) |
| 10:01.25 | nevcairiel | i enjoy raiding, its just .. we used to raid fulltime 5 days a week, now after 3 days we have blacktemple and hyjal cleared, and all lower instances are too boring to even think of going there |
| 10:01.26 | nevcairiel | so yeah |
| 10:01.29 | nevcairiel | we play alts alot |
| 10:01.35 | nevcairiel | my newest is a warrior, 63 now |
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| 10:04.03 | testleK | thanks guys I think I got tinypad doing what i wanted |
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| 10:05.31 | reqol | nevcairiel: well, as you said, 2.4 will bring a new raid for you to trample :) |
| 10:06.22 | Rayne | -_- |
| 10:06.25 | Rayne | well thats it... |
| 10:06.34 | Rayne | as of tonight...No Dice officially disbands. :/ |
| 10:08.24 | amro | Rayne: drama? |
| 10:08.50 | Rayne | losing about 30 people, all geared. |
| 10:08.55 | Rayne | over the course of a month |
| 10:11.10 | Kalroth | I guess the guild was a no dice then?! |
| 10:11.23 | Kalroth | Why didn't you recruit? |
| 10:11.28 | Kalroth | If you were losing people. |
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| 10:26.54 | Tem | Kalroth, probably because it's a pain in the ass to replace geared people |
| 10:27.08 | Tem | also, lol @ raiders |
| 10:27.18 | Tem | this game is so much more fun for me |
| 10:27.22 | Tem | now that I don't raid |
| 10:27.33 | Tem | I don't know wtf I was thinking back in the day |
| 10:27.48 | nevcairiel | i wouldnt know what to do when i wouldnt raid |
| 10:28.01 | Kalroth | Yeah, WoW is no fun if you play it as CS |
| 10:28.01 | amro | Tem: oh finally someone else who doesn't want to raid |
| 10:28.02 | Tem | pvp! |
| 10:28.16 | nevcairiel | pvp is boring :S |
| 10:28.31 | Kalroth | I'd probably quit when done raiding, PvP in WoW is as pointless as giving someone else a handjob. |
| 10:28.32 | reqol | could someone tell me why this is throwing a nil error? here lemme pastey it |
| 10:28.33 | Tem | well, pvp is what makes wow fun for me |
| 10:28.55 | Tem | that said, bgs are pretty frustrating for me |
| 10:29.03 | amro | BGs are lame |
| 10:29.10 | Tem | arena is where it's at |
| 10:29.11 | reqol | http://wowi.pastey.net/78447 the last line is what errors |
| 10:29.14 | amro | best PvP in wow was in 1.4 and earlier |
| 10:29.21 | Kalroth | PvP in WoW; if you win, you win. If you lose, you win. When you win, you don't win anything. When you lose, you don't lose anything. |
| 10:29.39 | Kalroth | At least games like EVE Online got PvP with consequences. |
| 10:29.39 | amro | Kalroth: what do you win from raiding? they're just virtual items, I play for fun |
| 10:29.43 | reqol | okay I see why |
| 10:29.46 | reqol | durrr |
| 10:29.48 | reqol | locals... |
| 10:29.58 | Kalroth | amro: You assume I raid for items. |
| 10:30.00 | reqol | sigh, sorry. it's late and it slipped out of my head |
| 10:30.16 | amro | Kalroth: what do you raid for? your statement implied you win something in raids |
| 10:30.22 | Kalroth | If I wanted items, then I could just get the welfare items from arenas |
| 10:30.42 | Kalroth | amro: No it doesn't, I stated why PvP in WoW feels pointless to me. |
| 10:31.00 | Tem | Kalroth, arena has 'consequences' |
| 10:31.03 | amro | well i misunderstood you then |
| 10:31.04 | Kalroth | Tem: Which? |
| 10:31.09 | Tem | you lose rating |
| 10:31.12 | Tem | duh? |
| 10:31.13 | Kalroth | .... |
| 10:31.16 | amro | that's nothing |
| 10:31.21 | amro | picture losing all your gear |
| 10:31.26 | Tem | no thanks |
| 10:31.28 | Kalroth | How much do you spend on consumeables? How much on repairs? |
| 10:31.43 | amro | now that'd be something, except wow would have to be totally redesigned to implement something like that |
| 10:31.49 | Tem | Kalroth, that's why I have 6k gold and every epic mount available to me |
| 10:31.59 | Kalroth | The hardest thing about the arenas is the queue time. Big deal if you lose rating, you just go again. |
| 10:32.05 | Tem | also, I wouldn't spend shit on consumables |
| 10:32.16 | Tem | I'm an alchemist and I've always farmed my own pots |
| 10:32.18 | amro | arenas are lame IMO. controlled environment |
| 10:32.30 | Tem | I like it |
| 10:32.32 | Kalroth | Arenas are for CS players, it's that simple. |
| 10:32.42 | Tem | well, I'm not a huge fan of 2v2 since it's so unbalanced |
| 10:32.50 | amro | I |
| 10:32.53 | Tem | but 3v3 and 5v5 are a blast |
| 10:32.54 | amro | I'm not talking about balance |
| 10:33.10 | amro | I'm talking about ambushing people, raiding towns, you know, warcraft |
| 10:33.25 | amro | which is totally unbalanced but fun |
| 10:33.30 | Tem | it's the rush of having to be on the very top of your game because if you're not, the other team is going to wax you |
| 10:34.01 | amro | yeah but for that I'd just play TF2 |
| 10:34.06 | amro | or CS |
| 10:34.08 | amro | or UT |
| 10:34.13 | Tem | or not |
| 10:34.17 | amro | =) |
| 10:34.26 | Tem | I suck at shooters |
| 10:34.27 | krka | or Starcraft |
| 10:34.51 | Tem | TF2 is pretty fun because of the whole class thing, but I prefer wow |
| 10:35.50 | Tem | anyway, I'll have to end this conversation before the elitism chokes me |
| 10:35.56 | amro | I spent most of my time playing wow messing around with addons |
| 10:36.06 | Tem | also, I'm tired as hell |
| 10:36.07 | Kalroth | I can't wait for the next raiding game though, WoW seems to have lost it. Elitism or not, TBC is slowly killing raiding :) |
| 10:36.08 | amro | spend* |
| 10:36.36 | amro | anyway, I'm off to play eve |
| 10:36.49 | Kalroth | amro: Go smack some BoB! |
| 10:36.53 | Tem | oh, btw, Kalroth, I can kill you in my "welfare epics" |
| 10:37.07 | Kalroth | Tem: Sure, they're better than my epics. |
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| 10:37.18 | Kalroth | I meant welfare as in easy to get |
| 10:37.23 | Kalroth | Rather than having to work for them |
| 10:37.28 | nevcairiel | what really sucks, that the "welfare epics" even look like the raiding epics. i really hate that. |
| 10:37.29 | Tem|Sleep | I did work for them |
| 10:37.44 | Kalroth | Tem|Sleep: I got welfare epics myself, so no you didn't. |
| 10:38.00 | Tem|Sleep | Kalroth, ask my 2k ratings if I worked for them |
| 10:38.01 | Tem|Sleep | fuck you |
| 10:38.02 | Kalroth | Well maybe you did work for them, but then I also know why you don't like raiding. :) |
| 10:38.08 | krka | i think you should be forced to work for things in games |
| 10:38.13 | krka | fun = work |
| 10:38.13 | nevcairiel | working for my T6 chest is hard, S3 chest is easy as pie to get |
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| 10:38.29 | Kalroth | krka: challenge = fun |
| 10:38.38 | Kalroth | krka: others wiping your ass != fun |
| 10:39.00 | Tem|Sleep | Kalroth, I dislike raiding because of the greedy atmosphere it creates among the players you're cooperating with |
| 10:39.10 | Tem|Sleep | I love the challenge of killing the huge boss |
| 10:39.27 | Tem|Sleep | but I HATE the drama that follows ZOMGPURPALZ |
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| 10:39.31 | Kalroth | Tem|Sleep: Maybe it's because you've raided only with lootwhores then? |
| 10:39.45 | Rayne | We couldnt recruit, we lost everyone basicly over the last 2-3 weeks |
| 10:40.14 | Kalroth | My guild runs a merit/officer loot system, we've had exactly 2 cases of loot drama since we were formed in 2005, one day after retail launch. |
| 10:40.44 | Kalroth | Of course with a name like this: http://www.elitism-guild.com/ - it's hard to misunderstand what the guild is about. :) |
| 10:41.52 | Tem|Sleep | nevcairiel, on one level I agree with the raid sets and pvp sets looking similar |
| 10:42.02 | Kalroth | They are almost identical |
| 10:42.08 | Tem|Sleep | but then I look at my S3 set |
| 10:42.11 | Tem|Sleep | and I cry |
| 10:42.11 | Kalroth | It's only a slightly different shade |
| 10:42.34 | Tem|Sleep | that being said, t5 was badass |
| 10:42.34 | nevcairiel | before arena sets, you were special when you raided, just because of the looks |
| 10:42.42 | nevcairiel | man not many had T3 on my realm |
| 10:42.46 | Tem|Sleep | and I was happy to get access to that look |
| 10:42.47 | cladhaire | priest |
| 10:42.50 | Kalroth | nevcairiel: and pvp were special too, they had their own set |
| 10:42.58 | Tem|Sleep | cladhaire, go look up pandemic's priest |
| 10:43.02 | cladhaire | k k |
| 10:43.03 | cladhaire | will do |
| 10:43.05 | cladhaire | whats the nam,e? |
| 10:43.07 | Tem|Sleep | they run d |
| 10:43.12 | Tem|Sleep | don't remember |
| 10:43.16 | Kalroth | Now it's impossible to see if you've killed Council in Black Temple or just played 10 games a week for a month. :) |
| 10:43.35 | Tem|Sleep | hey, I'd rather have different sets |
| 10:43.42 | Tem|Sleep | t6 mage looks fucking dumb |
| 10:43.44 | nevcairiel | even the new arena healing mace looks like the illidan healing mace |
| 10:43.50 | nevcairiel | so stupid |
| 10:44.10 | reqol | after having used lua for a small amount, I have to say I really like tables |
| 10:44.11 | reqol | quite a bit |
| 10:44.12 | Tem|Sleep | "Hi, I come to pin myself in the center of the nearest dartboard, please." |
| 10:44.25 | nevcairiel | haha yeah mage looks stupid |
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| 10:45.33 | nevcairiel | i love my druid t6 tho |
| 10:45.46 | nevcairiel | wtb head piece for full looks! |
| 10:49.24 | Tem|Sleep | cladhaire, I found their priest in the armory on the special event realm, but it's been inactive too long to have data |
| 10:49.29 | cladhaire | bah |
| 10:49.30 | cladhaire | =( |
| 10:49.34 | cladhaire | i want to see |
| 10:53.35 | cladhaire | Tem was it healing disc? |
| 10:53.41 | Tem|Sleep | yes |
| 10:53.50 | Tem|Sleep | their setup is priest, rogue, mage |
| 10:54.48 | cladhaire | boo |
| 10:54.52 | cladhaire | i dont have the +healing to support that |
| 10:55.11 | cladhaire | running wiht either BM or MM hunter |
| 10:55.16 | cladhaire | we're trying to decide |
| 10:55.29 | Tem|Sleep | found him! |
| 10:55.30 | Tem|Sleep | http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Tichondrius&n=Kinttlol |
| 10:55.39 | cladhaire | <3 |
| 10:56.05 | cladhaire | what would you say for priest/hunter combno |
| 10:56.31 | Tem|Sleep | 2s? |
| 10:56.50 | Tem|Sleep | Priest hunter is all about outlasting, I think |
| 10:57.05 | Tem|Sleep | a friend of mine runs that combo and does pretty well |
| 10:57.17 | Tem|Sleep | the hunter is Marksman |
| 10:57.25 | [dRaCo] | yeah, just drain your enemies and you're good. |
| 10:57.34 | Tem|Sleep | with a scorpid pet |
| 10:57.41 | Tem|Sleep | and I think he runs a holy build |
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| 10:57.50 | cladhaire | yeah |
| 10:57.53 | cladhaire | my arena gear is all dps |
| 10:57.58 | cladhaire | not holy |
| 10:58.02 | Tem|Sleep | with disc talents for fast mass dispell |
| 10:58.09 | Tem|Sleep | and imp mana drain |
| 10:58.14 | Tem|Sleep | yeah um |
| 10:58.19 | [dRaCo] | yeah, that's a must-have |
| 10:58.22 | Tem|Sleep | I don't know what to tell you about shadow priests |
| 10:58.33 | Tem|Sleep | other than, of the 3 types of priests, I can only kill one |
| 10:58.38 | cladhaire | i'm not saying shadow |
| 10:58.41 | Tem|Sleep | and it's not holy or disc |
| 10:58.45 | cladhaire | i'm just sauying my gear is all +damage |
| 10:58.49 | cladhaire | *sigh* |
| 10:58.51 | Tem|Sleep | *nod* |
| 10:58.52 | cladhaire | that's what i was afraid of. |
| 10:59.18 | Tem|Sleep | it's not the end of the world |
| 10:59.22 | Tem|Sleep | arena does gear matching |
| 10:59.40 | cladhaire | but its good gear |
| 10:59.40 | cladhaire | lol |
| 10:59.44 | cladhaire | just wrong spec |
| 10:59.47 | Tem|Sleep | so wear crappy healing gear |
| 10:59.56 | Tem|Sleep | or is it still better for healing? >< |
| 10:59.58 | cladhaire | it checks the bank |
| 10:59.58 | cladhaire | nub |
| 11:00.16 | Tem|Sleep | you sure about that? |
| 11:00.24 | cladhaire | yes |
| 11:00.48 | Wobin | bleeter: oh no =( http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story/0,25197,22869272-15306,00.html |
| 11:09.32 | amro | that sucks |
| 11:14.45 | Lukian | http://ace.pastey.net/78449 |
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| 11:20.30 | amro | Lukian: lmao |
| 11:20.31 | Kaso | http://waffleimages.nwpshost.com/files/bc/bc60b9b2c86e65bc1c38476eb64541f3771cad26.jpg |
| 11:20.39 | Kaso | Thats dinosaur skin that is, freaky |
| 11:22.56 | Rayne | WELL] |
| 11:23.01 | Rayne | I PROBABLY WONT SLEEP |
| 11:23.03 | Rayne | oh well |
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| 11:28.18 | Wobin | http://img47.imageshack.us/img47/719/clubbingbabysealbyhumonhi2.jpg |
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| 11:31.05 | cladhaire | what do we think about a build like this: |
| 11:31.05 | cladhaire | http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=bxMRkhguMZZVMgzMuoGt |
| 11:31.25 | nevcairiel | we think that priests are crazy and have no specific meaning |
| 11:31.59 | cladhaire | cool |
| 11:32.01 | Fisker-- | you cannot control me |
| 11:32.12 | buu | cladhaire: What are you trying to accomplish with it? |
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| 11:38.59 | Wobin | http://community.livejournal.com/metaquotes/6425973.html?style=mine#cutid1 |
| 11:44.34 | Fisker-- | how many Blizzard employees does it take to change a lightbulb Wobin? |
| 11:47.07 | haste | Fisker--: is /b/ slow as hell for you? |
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| 11:47.55 | Wobin | bleeter: http://www.drambuieresearch.com/ |
| 11:48.19 | Wobin | Fisker-: none, it's working as intended? |
| 11:49.15 | cladhaire | buu: I'm trying to figure out if there's a better PVP build for me |
| 11:49.20 | Fisker-- | haste i don't browse /b/ on work :O |
| 11:49.59 | haste | what else is there to do at work? |
| 11:50.20 | haste | I have 85% packet loss towards the server, might have something to do with it |
| 11:50.43 | Fisker-- | well correct idiots mistakes |
| 11:50.57 | Fisker-- | /b/ is sluggish here as well |
| 11:51.39 | Fisker-- | oh well |
| 11:51.44 | Fisker-- | gotta go fix some more beginner mistakes |
| 11:52.48 | zenzio | don't worry Fisker-, you'll learn soon enough ;-o |
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| 11:59.34 | cladhaire | Hrm |
| 11:59.41 | cladhaire | do i need Vampiric Touch? |
| 12:07.04 | a^i`SmaN | how about going holy/disc spec instead of shadow ? :/ |
| 12:07.38 | cladhaire | all of my arena/bg gear is +dmg |
| 12:07.48 | cladhaire | so it would seem rather silly to toss all of that away, going back to 0 resilience |
| 12:08.02 | a^i`SmaN | well, since ur going to have both sets to stack resilience |
| 12:08.10 | a^i`SmaN | i mean at least 2 pieces of both |
| 12:08.11 | cladhaire | huh? |
| 12:08.23 | a^i`SmaN | to have the +35 resil bonus twice |
| 12:08.25 | cladhaire | i dont have any plans to get the healing arena gear |
| 12:08.31 | a^i`SmaN | u should ! |
| 12:08.37 | cladhaire | hrm |
| 12:08.44 | cladhaire | just for the +res bonus? |
| 12:09.06 | cladhaire | well i dont even have my +dmg set finished yet |
| 12:09.11 | cladhaire | seems i should work on that |
| 12:09.14 | cladhaire | and replace my shit PVE gear first |
| 12:09.24 | a^i`SmaN | well, it's just my personal opinion but i tend to think that discpriests have more survavibility than spriests |
| 12:09.31 | cladhaire | yes |
| 12:09.34 | cladhaire | but i'm a damage dealer |
| 12:09.38 | cladhaire | this is my point |
| 12:09.42 | cladhaire | a disc priest does no damage |
| 12:09.46 | a^i`SmaN | since u usually get focused 1st as a priest |
| 12:09.53 | cladhaire | .. i'ma ware |
| 12:09.55 | cladhaire | you're missing the point |
| 12:10.01 | cladhaire | i'm not willing to shit away the past 4 months |
| 12:10.03 | amro | shadow priests kill before they get killed, they're not meant to soak up damage |
| 12:10.31 | cladhaire | yep |
| 12:10.32 | a^i`SmaN | :| |
| 12:10.41 | cladhaire | and regardless of that |
| 12:10.49 | cladhaire | i need to be a damage dealer, because of my gear |
| 12:10.50 | cladhaire | if nothing else |
| 12:11.44 | cladhaire | but i think i can do it without vampiric touch |
| 12:11.48 | cladhaire | so i have 0.5 mass dispel |
| 12:12.01 | cladhaire | and more mana cost reducing, and + mana base abilities |
| 12:12.06 | cladhaire | it may offset for pvp |
| 12:12.19 | cladhaire | i rarely get VT off as it is |
| 12:12.20 | cladhaire | = |
| 12:12.58 | cladhaire | http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=bxMRkhguMZZVMgzMuoGt perhaps |
| 12:13.00 | cladhaire | *shrug* |
| 12:13.02 | cladhaire | bbl |
| 12:16.50 | Rayne | omfg. |
| 12:16.59 | Rayne | I love people on my server, it makes me wish I was horde. |
| 12:17.08 | Rayne | http://www.auphanclan.com/forums/thread.php?thread_id=9280&page=3 Last SS, read the comment in the post too. |
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| 12:24.54 | amro | Rayne: rofl |
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| 12:34.55 | haste | anyone experienced L-Shift no working under wine when another key is pressed? |
| 12:35.43 | haste | R-Shift however does work :p |
| 12:38.07 | Codayus | Rayne: Hmm, the second screenshot... BWL, people using T1, a benediction... |
| 12:38.14 | Codayus | Wow, nostalgia trip. |
| 12:41.13 | amro | "mature player looking for kicck azz guild" |
| 12:41.44 | Polarina | haste: L-Shift isn't working because it's bound to your window manager. Just like why I couldn't do <Alt>+<Mouse Click> so I bound it to the weird Windows® logo key. |
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| 12:43.29 | haste | Polarina: I have zero key bindings that use shift on my wmii tho' |
| 12:45.23 | Polarina | haste: <Alt> worked but when I hold it down, the window manager reserved all mouse click. Just like yours, when you hold down a button on your keyboard, your window manager reserves all events of you pressing the <Left Shift> button. |
| 12:46.40 | haste | and that only effects wine? |
| 12:47.12 | haste | ah damn, I didn't mention that here |
| 12:47.22 | haste | wait, I did |
| 12:47.28 | Polarina | haste: That affects every application that aren't a rootkit to bypass these "limitations" set by the window manager. |
| 12:48.58 | haste | this honestly doesn't help me much tho' :( |
| 12:49.27 | Polarina | haste: Check your keybindings. :) |
| 12:49.44 | haste | it's not bound |
| 12:50.13 | Polarina | haste: Not even as a part of another combination, such as <Alt>+<Left Shift>? |
| 12:50.25 | haste | nope =\ |
| 12:52.24 | Polarina | haste: There must be something that's causing it. |
| 12:53.04 | Rayne | So, anyone in here in an alliancce guild that raids around 6PM server time on a pvp / pve server looking for a warlock and prot tank? :| |
| 12:53.37 | Polarina | Rayne: Europe? |
| 12:55.27 | haste | Polarina: l_shift+r works, r+l_shift doesn't |
| 12:57.22 | Rayne | Sorry, US |
| 12:57.48 | Cairenn|afk | have a good few days everyone, I'll see you late Thursday night or on Friday |
| 12:58.58 | Rayne | cya :) |
| 13:07.20 | Rayne | god damnit this sucks -_- |
| 13:18.01 | wereHamster | Polarina, AFAIK if the wm grabs a key, nobody can ever receive that key event, not even a rootkit - unless it modifies tho xserver binary |
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| 13:37.41 | testleK|away | ok another question, when saving a variable in a functin is TO_GUIConfigEnabled = 1 right or so I need to add ; at the end? |
| 13:41.16 | testleK|away | I seem to always get nill thats wh im asking lol |
| 13:43.09 | amro | testleK|away: semicolons are optional. are you sure you have the variable in your toc? |
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| 13:43.35 | testleK|away | ## SavedVariablesPerCharacter: TO_GUIConfigEnabled |
| 13:43.48 | testleK | yeah its in there |
| 13:44.29 | testleK | hmm going to have to do more research |
| 13:44.35 | amro | paste your .lua |
| 13:45.57 | testleK | http://wowi.pastey.net/78452 |
| 13:47.02 | testleK | lines 59 - 67 are the variable changers |
| 13:47.11 | amro | where are you getting nil though? |
| 13:47.44 | testleK | when I open my sv file after exiting the game it shows TO_GUIEnabled = nill |
| 13:48.09 | testleK | so its not saving |
| 13:48.09 | amro | because it's local |
| 13:48.36 | testleK | oh maybe i misunderstood local / global |
| 13:50.07 | testleK | ok ill do some wowiki searching to learn what it is i need to know exactly, thank you for pointing me in the right direction |
| 13:51.35 | amro | testleK: http://www.wowwiki.com/HOWTO:_Save_Variables_Between_Game_Sessions |
| 13:53.28 | testleK | oic |
| 13:53.35 | testleK | good link ty |
| 13:54.16 | testleK | cool you rock thanks |
| 13:54.49 | amro | np |
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| 14:01.51 | sag_ich_nicht | mhm |
| 14:02.14 | Taeri | waaah, I hate it when the bfs cellphone dies. |
| 14:02.25 | sag_ich_nicht | what would cause the flightmaster window to be empty, except for the map and 3 lines, with no way to choose where to fly to? |
| 14:04.22 | malreth | Taeri: maybe it didn't die... |
| 14:08.24 | amro | lol malreth |
| 14:09.10 | amro | sag_ich_nicht: FAA grounded all flights? |
| 14:09.40 | sag_ich_nicht | amro: nope, TakeTaxiNode(slot) still works |
| 14:09.54 | sag_ich_nicht | but i don't know how the numbering of the slots works |
| 14:10.01 | sag_ich_nicht | so i just took a random flight |
| 14:10.24 | malreth | sag_ich_nicht: disabled all addons? |
| 14:10.49 | sag_ich_nicht | malreth: this happens randomly, sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't :/ |
| 14:11.00 | sag_ich_nicht | someone should just code an improved flightpoint frame |
| 14:11.01 | sag_ich_nicht | imho |
| 14:11.14 | Taeri | malreth: it was short on power when he left for work. And not it's just not possible to call him. |
| 14:11.31 | malreth | must be a problem with your computer then. good luck figuring it out, sag_ich_nicht |
| 14:11.53 | sag_ich_nicht | D: |
| 14:11.55 | malreth | Taeri: so he conveniently didn't recharge it before leaving? |
| 14:12.00 | sag_ich_nicht | okay i found the place i want to go |
| 14:12.03 | sag_ich_nicht | it's node 8 |
| 14:13.29 | Taeri | malreth: >___> |
| 14:13.59 | malreth | this all probably has something to do with that beef the other night... |
| 14:15.44 | Taeri | XD |
| 14:16.03 | Taeri | and me totally oversleeping yesterday when I was supposed to pick him up from work! |
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| 14:17.47 | malreth | you didn't take off your shirt in front of him like i suggested, didn't you... |
| 14:18.29 | Taeri | No, but he was rewarded after he made the beef! |
| 14:18.50 | malreth | result! |
| 14:20.52 | malreth | my fiancee doesn't ever reward me for cooking dinner |
| 14:21.14 | malreth | i'll crank out parmesan crusted tilapia... |
| 14:21.14 | testleK|away | gnight |
| 14:21.35 | malreth | fresh tomato sauce and pasta with roasted zucchini |
| 14:22.01 | malreth | or sometimes baked halibut with a zesty vera cruz sauce |
| 14:22.26 | Taeri | and she does not reward you? :o |
| 14:22.27 | malreth | and she's all "NOM NOM NOM i has sleepy now zzzzzzZZzzzz..." |
| 14:22.39 | Taeri | lol XD |
| 14:22.42 | Taeri | poor thing |
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| 14:22.51 | Taeri | start making her crappy food instead. |
| 14:22.58 | Taeri | make her appreciate the good dinners! |
| 14:23.14 | malreth | we had hot pot for the last two nights |
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| 14:23.25 | Taeri | hot pot? |
| 14:23.49 | malreth | beef, chicken, fish, shrimp, lobster, cabbage, spinach, enoki mushrooms, fish cake all boiled together in a broth |
| 14:23.56 | malreth | ~wiki hotpot |
| 14:24.19 | Taeri | hihi |
| 14:24.19 | malreth | shabu-shabu |
| 14:24.42 | malreth | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hot_pot |
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| 14:24.49 | Taeri | sounds.. scary and nice. |
| 14:25.03 | Taeri | it reminded me about fondue |
| 14:25.15 | malreth | it's very much like fondue |
| 14:25.25 | malreth | same premise... |
| 14:25.50 | malreth | you sit around a boiling pot of broth and drop raw things in and let them cook |
| 14:27.03 | malreth | but yeah... i would cook crappier dishes but then there's my pride to consider |
| 14:27.08 | malreth | i just don't wanna cook crap |
| 14:27.30 | Taeri | cook things you think are totally awesome, but she thinks is horrible? |
| 14:28.28 | malreth | red curry with peppers |
| 14:28.39 | malreth | boston baked beans |
| 14:28.48 | malreth | she doesn't like spicy or beans |
| 14:28.53 | malreth | ooh! spicy beans! |
| 14:29.00 | malreth | the answer is staring me in teh face! |
| 14:29.25 | malreth | spicy bean stew with red, black, and black-eyed peas |
| 14:29.33 | sioraiocht | wow |
| 14:29.33 | malreth | sausage and fresh tomatoes |
| 14:29.35 | sioraiocht | so empty |
| 14:30.07 | Lopeppeppy | It sounds like a lovely meal, malreth, barring that she doesn't like a bit of it. *winks* Consider a good cornbread to go along with. |
| 14:30.26 | malreth | it's a good winter meal |
| 14:30.35 | Lopeppeppy | It is, very filling and warming. |
| 14:30.46 | malreth | mmm... |
| 14:30.56 | malreth | fuck now i'm hongry for stew |
| 14:32.39 | malreth | http://blog.wired.com/monkeybites/2007/12/rumor-leopard-i.html |
| 14:32.53 | malreth | there's a bit of interesting rumor mongering |
| 14:34.06 | malreth | "So are these Leopard loaders a sign that Apple is working on a way to run Windows apps within OS X? Possibly, though if they ran natively, without proper sandboxing, OS X could end up vulnerable to Windows viruses and malware, something Apple obviously wants to avoid." |
| 14:34.40 | malreth | interesting, then, that apple added sandboxing as a feature in Leopard |
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| 15:09.30 | sag_ich_nicht | question: what would cause the flightmaster window to be empty, except for the map and 3 lines, with no way to choose where to fly to? |
| 15:10.01 | Kaso | my guess is an addon, but that isnt much help |
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| 15:11.44 | sag_ich_nicht | duh :P |
| 15:11.49 | Rayne | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:11.59 | Rayne | throatpuch please...im totally bummed and need a cheering up |
| 15:13.11 | Kaso | sag_ich_nicht first out work out which addon causes it, do a tree-search style disabling off addons to work it out |
| 15:13.31 | Lopeppeppy | Morning, |Jelly|-dear! |
| 15:14.24 | |Jelly| | Rayne: nothx; Not really in the mood. :\ |
| 15:14.36 | |Jelly| | Lopeppeppy: Good morning! |
| 15:15.53 | |Jelly| | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=3168360275&sid=1&pageNo=11#200 <-- makes me lol considering she probably hates him more than most of us. |
| 15:16.43 | Lopeppeppy | No feeding trolls, that's my firm belief. |
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| 15:17.08 | |Jelly| | huh? |
| 15:17.09 | zenzelezz | "Every man, wherever he goes, is encompassed by a cloud of comforting convictions, which move with him like flies on a summer day" |
| 15:17.32 | Kalroth | So basically he's smelly and got flies around him? |
| 15:17.57 | Lopeppeppy | Sounds like personal hygiene is in order. |
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| 15:18.31 | Kalroth | Yay, it's my second favorite chav! |
| 15:19.35 | |Jelly| | Where is Cairenn, anyway? I don't recall us giving her permission to leave! :P |
| 15:23.55 | zenzelezz | <Cairenn|afk> have a good few days everyone, I'll see you late Thursday night or on Friday |
| 15:24.18 | Rayne | |Jelly|: Just the FYI, my guild disbanded last night after 3 years because of all the people leaving that were amazingly geared, and they whined about progression when they were always too busy to run with us. |
| 15:24.25 | Rayne | So im really fuckin bummed out. :/ |
| 15:24.59 | TS|Skrom | I just got into a shouting match with my sales manager |
| 15:25.43 | malreth | Rayne: ~throatpunch added just for you |
| 15:26.06 | malreth | ~throatpunch |
| 15:26.07 | purl | ACTION punches malreth in the throat. |
| 15:26.12 | zenzelezz | Rayne: bit redundant to say, but that sucks |
| 15:27.53 | |Jelly| | I don't know what to tell you man. :\ |
| 15:29.00 | Intangir | i cant seem to save my variables.. or cant seem to load the variable |
| 15:29.01 | Intangir | s |
| 15:29.27 | |Jelly| | Rayne: Define "amazingly geared" :\ |
| 15:29.27 | malreth | Intangir: have you read the wiki on it? |
| 15:29.44 | Intangir | ya |
| 15:29.52 | Intangir | it doesnt seem to be working, also i dont understand part of it |
| 15:30.02 | Intangir | the part where he sets initial values.. which one is he actually using it from? |
| 15:30.05 | Rayne | every single piece of heroic new badge loot, kara loot, gruuls loot and crafted loot we could farm to get ready for 25 mans. countless hours for nothing. :/ |
| 15:30.06 | zenzelezz | about a month after I joined my first raiding guild (who were we-wipe-to-Ragnaros level) there was an exodus of the raiders. Bummed me out for a bit, but I kept looking and got a spot in a much better guild. All you can do is keep trying |
| 15:30.09 | Intangir | also all the addons ive seen that do it, use arrays |
| 15:30.16 | Intangir | but when i try to access elements of the array, it errors |
| 15:30.45 | |Jelly| | I don't see it as for nothing- I'm sure you still have friends, regardless of what happened. |
| 15:30.46 | Rayne | I think I screamed when the guy I wanted to be my #1 OT left a month ago, and it all just went downhill from there. |
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| 15:31.00 | Rayne | Shoulda fucking gave that shield to someone who deserved it |
| 15:31.02 | |Jelly| | It's the people that are no longer considered friends, or no longer talk to you that are !!!! |
| 15:31.33 | Intangir | running a raiding guild just isnt worth the effort |
| 15:31.38 | Rayne | Or Open rolled it like I wanted to because I had it and 3 of my OTs were in the run, but noooo stupidity said default it. |
| 15:31.43 | Intangir | i let me guild go by the wayside, and now just pvp |
| 15:31.46 | |Jelly| | No, it really isn't. |
| 15:31.48 | Intangir | thats all i do on wow is pvp |
| 15:31.58 | Intangir | its much less stress, more fun, dont have to be on a schedule |
| 15:32.08 | Intangir | and the gear is better ;) |
| 15:32.18 | Intangir | made alot of good friends though |
| 15:32.20 | |Jelly| | "better" |
| 15:32.27 | zenzelezz | depends what you want to do |
| 15:32.37 | Intangir | thats the only point of any guild, is to make a few friends, the rest of it isnt worth it |
| 15:32.38 | Rayne | I prefer PvE, and always have. |
| 15:32.58 | Intangir | it was nice downing some of the bosses in karazhan the first time |
| 15:33.08 | Intangir | but then when those players who helped left, the old screenshots just stir up bad memories |
| 15:33.27 | Intangir | you have to be careful who you invite.. |
| 15:33.31 | Intangir | we liked to invite groups of friends |
| 15:33.36 | Intangir | but then the whole group would rebel at once |
| 15:33.41 | Intangir | like that whole clique |
| 15:33.52 | Intangir | trying to pull as many other guidlmates away at once |
| 15:33.54 | Intangir | that happened twice |
| 15:34.03 | Intangir | both times after a MAJOR milestone had been reached for the guild |
| 15:34.08 | Rayne | Also, http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=3168406317&sid=1 |
| 15:34.15 | Intangir | then like clockwork there are always assholes who want to steal/dtear down everything you created |
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| 15:34.36 | Intangir | i did make some cool friends though |
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| 15:34.44 | Intangir | but i think you can make closer friends just from doing arena and BGs together |
| 15:35.07 | Intangir | i dont care for any of the raiding in wow anymore.. |
| 15:35.14 | Intangir | karazhan blows ass, the higher level ones are also lame |
| 15:35.16 | zenzelezz | I disagree. It's irrelevant what you do, you can make just as close friends in any kind of guild |
| 15:35.18 | Intangir | its just a bunch of kids running around |
| 15:35.22 | Intangir | half of which dont know what the heck they are doing |
| 15:35.41 | |Jelly| | [09:33]<Intangir>its just a bunch of kids running around <-- And you think pvp is any different? :\ |
| 15:35.41 | Intangir | nah in 25 man raids you cant really 'get to know' anyone in your group |
| 15:35.47 | Intangir | you cant chat on vent while your pulling shit ;) |
| 15:35.54 | |Jelly| | Yeah you can. |
| 15:35.56 | |Jelly| | I know I did. |
| 15:35.59 | Intangir | in arena you can really work on teamskills, and talk between fights |
| 15:36.12 | Intangir | sometimes you find you dont like the people on your team though ;) |
| 15:36.14 | Rayne | ROGUE: You will not be able to see this character. The rogue can hide from your eyes, like water or transparent glue. <--- made me lol so fucking hard |
| 15:36.16 | zenzelezz | you must have had some bad luck with your raid guild(s) Intangir, mine have all been good |
| 15:36.22 | Intangir | my old 2v2 teammate didnt believe a fucking word of anything i said about politics |
| 15:36.26 | Intangir | and made it personal |
| 15:36.28 | zenzelezz | Rayne: also the druid one |
| 15:36.28 | Intangir | we dont talk anymore |
| 15:36.49 | Intangir | zenzelezz: i just cant play on a schedule either |
| 15:36.49 | |Jelly| | ...why did you bring up politics (or religion) in the first place? ... |
| 15:37.02 | Intangir | |Jelly|: cause what other two topics are more important to our lives ;) |
| 15:37.18 | Intangir | one decides how you will live on earth and the other is about how you will spend the afterlife |
| 15:37.22 | Intangir | seems important topics to me |
| 15:37.29 | |Jelly| | So obviously you didn't respect him enough to drop it either. |
| 15:37.37 | Intangir | he brought it up, and he kept it going |
| 15:37.37 | zenzelezz | and yet billions of people get by just fine without thinking of either |
| 15:37.39 | Intangir | and he made it personal |
| 15:37.51 | Intangir | if he wants to attack my beliefs and cant accept them, then he can fuck off |
| 15:37.54 | Intangir | obviously we arent friends |
| 15:38.00 | |Jelly| | Obviously. |
| 15:38.14 | Intangir | i wouldnt been happy to discuss it with him |
| 15:38.26 | Intangir | but he just wanted to ridicule |
| 15:38.46 | Intangir | its a shame |
| 15:38.49 | Intangir | we did pretty well too |
| 15:38.52 | Intangir | got over 2000 rating |
| 15:39.05 | Intangir | but he just started drinking alot and we started blowing |
| 15:39.19 | Intangir | he didnt think his drinking hurt his playing, but it really did |
| 15:39.34 | Intangir | but my new partner is cool |
| 15:39.42 | Intangir | we do pretty well too but damn its hard to get any rating with this new season |
| 15:39.46 | Intangir | we are still at 1600 |
| 15:39.49 | Intangir | competition is fierce! |
| 15:39.53 | Intangir | anyone else noticing this? |
| 15:40.27 | Intangir | im actually in a raiding guild now and they do a fair ammount of pvp so its fun |
| 15:40.36 | Intangir | if i ever want to jump in a raid i could always sign up for one |
| 15:40.51 | Rayne | STEP 3: If you see a golden water fountain occur, you make breathe sigh of releif because your opponent is a child. |
| 15:40.51 | Rayne | the angel with the breasts is your sexual image reward for victory |
| 15:40.53 | Intangir | i wanted to check out zul aman at least, not seen it |
| 15:40.56 | Rayne | yuuuup |
| 15:41.26 | Intangir | lol |
| 15:41.36 | Intangir | the angel with breasts is your sexual image reward for victory! :) |
| 15:41.38 | Intangir | lol awesome |
| 15:41.43 | Intangir | unfortuantely she heals your opponents |
| 15:42.04 | Rayne | : If they turn dark, you have made them angry and your brain may start to smell like burning. Run quickly away. This situation is what spectral wolf talent is made for. |
| 15:42.06 | Intangir | shes always a female even when you kill male priests too |
| 15:42.09 | Intangir | i think your on to something |
| 15:42.27 | Intangir | lol what are you reading? |
| 15:42.54 | Rayne | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=3168406317&sid=1 |
| 15:42.57 | Rayne | that |
| 15:46.27 | malreth | lua> type("lamp")~=string |
| 15:46.27 | lua_bot | malreth: true |
| 15:46.36 | malreth | mmm... so true |
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| 15:48.03 | Rayne | someone should code an addon that forces people to customize it before they use it, because the out of the box thing is usually pretty hideous. |
| 15:48.11 | Rayne | Also it would be a great way to annoy people |
| 15:51.14 | Rayne | Ill shutup now |
| 15:51.45 | malreth | Rayne`moron: oh... you mean MazzleUI? |
| 15:52.12 | malreth`moron | SNAP! |
| 15:52.18 | Rayne`moron | u bad |
| 15:52.26 | MentalPower | lua> type("lamp")~="string" |
| 15:52.26 | lua_bot | MentalPower: false |
| 15:52.41 | MentalPower | lua> string |
| 15:52.41 | lua_bot | MentalPower: { ["split"] = function: 0x80702e8, ["match"] = function: 0x806eeb0, ["gmatch"] = function: 0x806edd8, ["upper"] = function: 0x806ef80, ["gsub"] = function: 0x806ee10, ["format"] = function: 0x806ed68, ["lower"] = function: 0x806ee78, ["sub"] = function: 0... (result truncated) |
| 15:52.57 | malreth`moron | you caught it! |
| 15:53.02 | malreth`moron | Intangir: http://wowi.pastey.net/78461 |
| 15:53.13 | malreth`moron | clear simple example of how to save variables |
| 15:53.16 | malreth`moron | untested code |
| 15:53.23 | malreth`moron | also keep in mind that i don't know how to program |
| 15:53.28 | malreth`moron | and i don't even play WoW |
| 15:54.12 | MentalPower | you mean you don't play WoW currently |
| 15:54.16 | Intangir | malreth: thanks |
| 15:54.24 | malreth | example assumes you have MySavedVariable defined in your .toc as a saved variable... obv |
| 15:54.40 | malreth | !c us silver hand malreth |
| 15:54.41 | ThraeBot | malreth: malreth is not the character you are looking for! |
| 15:54.47 | malreth | obviously i've never played |
| 15:54.51 | malreth | the armory never lies |
| 15:54.55 | MentalPower | yes it does |
| 15:55.01 | malreth | NEVAR! |
| 15:55.01 | MentalPower | if you haven't played in a while |
| 15:55.02 | Kaso | MentalPower, im rather confused by your lamp is not a string thing up there. |
| 15:55.20 | MentalPower | Kaso: what about it? |
| 15:55.30 | Kaso | well, what? why? |
| 15:55.32 | malreth | lua> string == "string" |
| 15:55.32 | lua_bot | malreth: false |
| 15:55.36 | malreth | see that, kaso |
| 15:55.43 | malreth | lua> type(string) |
| 15:55.43 | lua_bot | malreth: table, |
| 15:55.45 | nevcairiel | string is a global table that holds string functions |
| 15:55.53 | MentalPower | basically string is a variable that holds a table |
| 15:55.55 | nevcairiel | "string" is a string containing the word string |
| 15:55.55 | nevcairiel | :P |
| 15:56.01 | Rayne | omfg I have a HUGE Urge to play Elite Beat Agents |
| 15:56.02 | Kaso | lua isnt OO ! |
| 15:56.05 | MentalPower | (what nevcairiel said) |
| 15:56.15 | MentalPower | Kaso: yes, it can be |
| 15:56.24 | Kaso | yah but it isnt out of the box |
| 15:56.25 | nevcairiel | faked OO anyway, but hey |
| 15:56.26 | MentalPower | I can certainly code OO in Lua |
| 15:56.49 | MentalPower | nevcairiel: if by faked you mean not forced then yes |
| 15:56.58 | MentalPower | otherwise its as fake as Java's |
| 15:57.01 | malreth | Kaso: the trick of that expression is that it was comparing the type of a string with the type of a table *named* string |
| 15:57.14 | malreth | but there was the ~= inequality thrown in |
| 15:57.38 | nevcairiel | well, for the more advanced features like inheritance, you have to basicly "cheat" and use metatables, its not really OO-by-design ;) |
| 15:57.49 | nevcairiel | but hey, we all do it |
| 15:57.53 | MentalPower | no, OO is enabled by the use of metatables |
| 15:57.54 | malreth | nevcairiel: it's OO-by-the-seat-of-your-pants |
| 15:58.11 | Kaso | yah i understand that but it just seems a odd thing to type in because most people here know that type() returns name as of the type as a string |
| 15:58.11 | MentalPower | metatables would not be there if not to enable OO |
| 15:58.43 | Intangir | !c us mug'thol Intangir |
| 15:58.45 | malreth | Kaso: it tricked you. :) that's all that matters now. |
| 15:59.01 | MentalPower | !c us alleria mentak |
| 15:59.37 | Kaso | i was more confused why it was "lamp" in particular. |
| 15:59.50 | malreth | lamps bring you light |
| 15:59.54 | malreth | do you have a problem with lamps? |
| 16:00.07 | MentalPower | lua> local foo = "lamp" return type(lamp) ~= "string" |
| 16:00.07 | lua_bot | MentalPower: true |
| 16:00.16 | MentalPower | lua> local foo = "lamp" return type(foo) ~= "string" |
| 16:00.16 | lua_bot | MentalPower: false |
| 16:00.21 | MentalPower | lol, typo |
| 16:00.41 | MentalPower | anyways, thats a much better typical use |
| 16:00.54 | malreth | i liked the typo, actually |
| 16:01.04 | MentalPower | ~lart ThraeBot |
| 16:01.04 | purl | says "boot to the head" and knocks ThraeBot over |
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| 16:07.38 | Kaso | ctrl-L clears the window in xchat, i didnt know that :< |
| 16:08.25 | Rayne | Cant find my DS :( |
| 16:08.35 | Rayne | ~throatpunch |
| 16:08.36 | purl | ACTION punches rayne in the throat. |
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| 16:11.10 | malreth | ~jerg |
| 16:11.11 | purl | ACTION ZERG HERGING JERG MY BERG!!! |
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| 16:31.09 | Shirik|Ecole | wow |
| 16:31.18 | Shirik|Ecole | so I get these emails from the FBI whenever they have a new opening in my field |
| 16:31.23 | Shirik|Ecole | I was surprised to see this: |
| 16:31.39 | Shirik|Ecole | Job Description: Computer Scientist GS 15 |
| 16:31.40 | Shirik|Ecole | Salary Range: $110363.00-$143471.00 |
| 16:31.45 | Lopeppeppy | Sweet. |
| 16:31.49 | kamdis | nice |
| 16:31.52 | |Jelly| | Nice |
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| 16:33.46 | Shirik|Ecole | I really wish I knew what all these levels were though |
| 16:33.49 | Shirik|Ecole | GS-15, GS-14 |
| 16:34.05 | Lopeppeppy | There's nothing on their site about levels? I assume it's paygrades/promotion grades. |
| 16:34.07 | Shirik|Ecole | I think it's to make their system sound more complicated |
| 16:34.14 | cladhaire | ~blp2png |
| 16:34.15 | purl | it has been said that blp2png is http://vector.digifort.com/blp.php, a simple blp to png conversion script. Bonus points for finding a valid BLP it won't parse! Thanks to foxlit for the great script! |
| 16:34.21 | |Jelly| | Could be clearance levels. |
| 16:34.27 | Lopeppeppy | Hawt. |
| 16:34.31 | Shirik|Ecole | ""In addition to the basic education requirements, the applicant must have 1 year of specialized experience equivalent to the GS-14 level. " |
| 16:34.36 | Shirik|Ecole | no it's not clearance |
| 16:34.58 | Shirik|Ecole | I know all about clearances, heh. I need to get one sometime before next summer. |
| 16:36.04 | Lopeppeppy | What I can see is related to promotion levels, like you start at GS 10 and work up, or similar. |
| 16:36.19 | kamdis | it's a standard governemnt payscale, that's all |
| 16:36.26 | Lopeppeppy | http://www.fbi.gov/employment/advance.htm |
| 16:36.51 | Shirik|Ecole | aha, wiki wins again |
| 16:36.52 | Shirik|Ecole | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/General_Schedule |
| 16:37.39 | Intangir | hey |
| 16:37.59 | Intangir | do i declare my saved variables in my lua file? |
| 16:38.02 | Intangir | or only the toc file? |
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| 16:39.35 | Shirik|Ecole | the TOC file |
| 16:39.40 | Shirik|Ecole | you don't declare variables in Lua |
| 16:39.42 | Shirik|Ecole | you just use them |
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| 16:39.53 | Intangir | ok |
| 16:39.57 | Shirik|Ecole | (well, except locals, but there's no way for Blizzard to pick up locals) |
| 16:40.23 | malreth | grr... |
| 16:41.25 | malreth | i forgive you now for the hookers, kamdis |
| 16:41.44 | Shirik|Ecole | haven't seen you in a while kamdis |
| 16:45.01 | kamdis | I had to move offices at work |
| 16:45.06 | Shirik|Ecole | ah |
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| 16:45.31 | kamdis | thanks mal, I'll try to keep the beatings to a minimum from now on. |
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| 16:45.53 | cncfanatics | yo all ! |
| 16:45.58 | |Jelly| | hai |
| 16:46.02 | _malreth | kamdis: appreciated |
| 16:46.43 | Shirik|Ecole | ahahahahhahahaa |
| 16:46.46 | Shirik|Ecole | moron, that's what he gets |
| 16:46.53 | |Jelly| | ? |
| 16:47.09 | Shirik|Ecole | idiot riding a skateboard inside here (UC, our cafeteria) |
| 16:47.14 | Shirik|Ecole | fell off and landed on his back |
| 16:47.18 | cncfanatics | hehe, win |
| 16:47.34 | _malreth | mmm... waxed floors |
| 16:47.34 | Shirik|Ecole | I don't have a problem with people skateboarding but ffs do it outside |
| 16:48.16 | |Jelly| | lol |
| 16:48.43 | malreth | Intangir: did that pastey make sense? |
| 16:48.49 | Intangir | i think so thanks |
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| 16:48.54 | Intangir | im putting it in my code now |
| 16:48.55 | malreth | good |
| 16:49.00 | malreth | now for the matter of payment |
| 16:49.05 | Intangir | i think part of my problem is i was checking ADDON LOADED for Blizzards minimap |
| 16:49.08 | Intangir | not my addon.. |
| 16:49.11 | Intangir | so my variables werent loaded yet.. |
| 16:49.19 | malreth | see, in this world, there's this concept of equivalent trade |
| 16:49.25 | Intangir | most of my code applies to their UI |
| 16:49.30 | Intangir | i dont have any of my own |
| 16:49.34 | malreth | i gave you help... now you must give something in return |
| 16:49.36 | Intangir | but i have to save my variable under my addons name? |
| 16:49.42 | Intangir | malreth: ill give you a tip |
| 16:49.48 | Intangir | vote ron paul |
| 16:49.48 | malreth | Intangir: no... |
| 16:49.52 | malreth | i want your sanity |
| 16:49.57 | Intangir | already gone |
| 16:50.05 | malreth | just a piece of it... doesn't have to be all that remains |
| 16:50.18 | Intangir | fine, im not using it anyway |
| 16:50.45 | Rayne | Damnit my Final Fantasy Tactics disc wont work :( |
| 16:50.51 | Intangir | dude i love tactics |
| 16:50.52 | malreth | that is good... you wouldn't want me to get... forceful on you |
| 16:50.57 | Intangir | i just finished rebeating it like 4 days ago |
| 16:51.18 | Intangir | i beat it way easier this time than the first time |
| 16:51.20 | Intangir | in 30 hours |
| 16:51.24 | Intangir | with characters around level 40 |
| 16:51.29 | malreth | Intangir: as for the name of your saved variable, it can be anything |
| 16:51.31 | Intangir | monk class is the best utility class |
| 16:51.40 | Intangir | i had all knight/monks |
| 16:51.46 | Intangir | level agrias |
| 16:51.54 | Intangir | dont go any caster classes |
| 16:52.03 | malreth | it can be 'foo' or 'larry' or 'cogwheel' but you probably want to have your addon name in there as per convention |
| 16:52.22 | Rayne | Agrias, your main character, Lancer, Calculator, and usually I had either a summoner or a samurai in the mix |
| 16:52.22 | Rayne | :) |
| 16:52.24 | malreth | so 'MyAddOn_ConfigurationData' or something like that |
| 16:53.07 | malreth | saved variables are global so you don't want to pick the same name as any other addon might have for their saved variables |
| 16:53.32 | Rayne | Calcs are uber healers |
| 16:53.35 | Intangir | i had agrias (knight, holy knight, with hamedo), libert (my main) knight/monk, 2 randoms with knight/monk, and orlando with .. his unique class/knight |
| 16:53.38 | Intangir | dominated so hardcore.. |
| 16:53.40 | Intangir | agrias was godly |
| 16:53.52 | Rayne | Melidoul is fun as hell too |
| 16:53.52 | Intangir | orlandu is close but agrias flat out dominates in high level |
| 16:53.56 | malreth | also, you don't have to limit yourself to just one variable but again, since they're all global it reduces the chance of a collision if you have only one that is a table and then you save values into that |
| 16:54.02 | Rayne | omfg let me break my opponents gear |
| 16:54.05 | Intangir | i checked out her skills and theres not as many as agrias or orlandu |
| 16:54.06 | Rayne | fuckin wicked |
| 16:54.18 | Intangir | orlandu does enough damage to enemy gear ;) |
| 16:54.24 | Intangir | but ya fightiing melidoul was lame |
| 16:54.29 | Intangir | she broke EVERY CHARACTERS armor |
| 16:54.33 | Intangir | cause i wanted to steal her sword |
| 16:54.34 | malreth | do i have to put this in final fantasy tic-tacs terms for you? |
| 16:54.53 | Shirik|Ecole | tic-tac? |
| 16:55.04 | malreth | i'll call it whatever i want! |
| 16:55.11 | Shirik|Ecole | ~tic-tac |
| 16:55.28 | malreth | ~wiki Final Fantasy Tactics |
| 16:55.30 | Shirik|Ecole | purl, tic-tac is some kind of final fantasy mumbo jumbo |
| 16:55.31 | purl | okay, Shirik|Ecole |
| 16:55.32 | Intangir | that game has one of the most awesome plots ever though no doubt |
| 16:55.51 | Intangir | HAMEDO! smack! |
| 16:55.52 | Intangir | hahaha |
| 16:55.55 | Intangir | with ninja 2 hands |
| 16:55.57 | Rayne | one of the best FF games ever made |
| 16:55.58 | Intangir | oh ya i forgot that part |
| 16:56.06 | malreth | purl no, tic-tac is a small breath mint |
| 16:56.06 | purl | okay, malreth |
| 16:56.11 | Intangir | my main and 2 others, had knight maxed, monk maxed, two hands, and hamedo |
| 16:56.13 | Intangir | they dominated |
| 16:56.26 | Rayne | I actually had Agrias as one of my healers for awhile, then I taught her Holy just to go with her class and went nuts. :) |
| 16:56.30 | Intangir | and i duped the excaliber ;) |
| 16:56.33 | Intangir | so they auto hasted |
| 16:56.37 | Intangir | and dominated |
| 16:56.51 | Rayne | I never did unlock the Mime class... |
| 16:56.56 | Shirik|Ecole | purl no, tic-tac is a final fantasy small breath mint tactic |
| 16:56.57 | purl | okay, Shirik|Ecole |
| 16:57.00 | Intangir | Rayne: i didnt think time around |
| 16:57.22 | Intangir | i unlocked every claass first time thru |
| 16:57.23 | Intangir | but this timei just went with the most efficient killing machines ;) |
| 16:57.29 | Rayne | lol |
| 16:57.29 | Rayne | Cloud was terrible |
| 16:57.29 | Rayne | The second time through |
| 16:57.29 | Rayne | skipped him |
| 16:57.30 | Intangir | i never got him leveled first time, |
| 16:57.36 | Intangir | second time i accidently skipped EVERY secret ;( |
| 16:57.37 | Rayne | He wasnt worth it |
| 16:57.40 | Rayne | soooooo hard to level |
| 16:57.52 | Rayne | and his limits sucked |
| 16:57.59 | Intangir | i accidently went to the monestary and saved after.. |
| 16:58.02 | Intangir | so .. i couldnt get out |
| 16:58.05 | Rayne | :( |
| 16:58.11 | Rayne | What else... |
| 16:58.16 | Rayne | Umm... |
| 16:58.23 | Shirik|Ecole | "The files you have submitted are binary equivalents" |
| 16:58.25 | Intangir | agrias is just flat out best character after leveling |
| 16:58.28 | Shirik|Ecole | I really hate it when people cheat...... |
| 16:58.35 | Shirik|Ecole | It makes me have to do so much work -_- |
| 16:58.35 | Intangir | holy explosion ;) burn down 4 targets in a row 1 shot ;) |
| 16:58.37 | Rayne | I had a team of 4 red chocobos and my main as a healer |
| 16:58.41 | Rayne | that as stupidly fun |
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| 16:58.49 | Intangir | hehehe sweet |
| 16:59.01 | Rayne | Choco Meteor was so OP |
| 16:59.05 | Rayne | or w/e it is |
| 16:59.06 | Intangir | ya |
| 16:59.12 | Intangir | when you go up against a group of all chocobos |
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| 16:59.20 | Intangir | and they burn down most of your characters before you get to move.. thats not cool |
| 16:59.30 | Rayne | Did you ever get the extra summon spell in Deep Dungeon? I was never able to |
| 16:59.36 | Rayne | my summoner usually got eaten alive |
| 16:59.38 | Intangir | i think i did the first time around |
| 16:59.44 | Intangir | but this time i skipped the whole thing |
| 16:59.47 | Intangir | that whole dungeon |
| 16:59.56 | Rayne | Deep dungeon had soooo many cool items |
| 17:00.05 | Intangir | i forget |
| 17:00.09 | Intangir | what did it have? |
| 17:00.16 | Rayne | including that one sword that turned people you attacked into frogs |
| 17:00.21 | Intangir | if you dupe excaliber you really dont need anything else ;) |
| 17:00.39 | Rayne | it had basicly every classes best weapons |
| 17:00.54 | Intangir | well im not playing thru it again ;) |
| 17:00.58 | Rayne | WHY DOES IE DOWNLOAD SHIT SO SLOW IT BAFFLES ME |
| 17:01.02 | Intangir | too bad i saved into the monestary ;( |
| 17:01.15 | Shirik|Ecole | Rayne: because your ISP sucks? |
| 17:01.20 | Rayne | My ISP is fine |
| 17:01.24 | Intangir | i accidently had one of my characters die |
| 17:01.25 | Intangir | and decay |
| 17:01.29 | Intangir | and saved after before noticing |
| 17:01.36 | Intangir | thats like the worst ;( |
| 17:01.40 | Intangir | she was my 2nd strongest too |
| 17:01.44 | Rayne | omfg I did that once with this summon I had totally maxed out |
| 17:01.47 | Rayne | I was so pissed off |
| 17:02.05 | Intangir | did you take melidoul to fight .. her dad i forgot his name |
| 17:02.09 | Intangir | gustav |
| 17:02.11 | Rayne | Yeah, always |
| 17:02.15 | Intangir | what do they say? |
| 17:02.18 | Intangir | i didnt use her |
| 17:02.23 | malreth | http://go-girly.com/go/516 |
| 17:02.30 | Rayne | Just personality conflict, she basicly calls him a douschebag |
| 17:02.35 | Intangir | hahaha |
| 17:03.15 | Intangir | k i gotta go |
| 17:03.21 | Rayne | aw :( lol |
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| 17:04.04 | Shirik|Ecole | malreth: what the hell |
| 17:04.10 | Shirik|Ecole | this is what you look at all day? >< |
| 17:04.26 | malreth | my friend josh has insane humor |
| 17:04.32 | Shirik|Ecole | read a real comic like xkcd :P |
| 17:04.38 | malreth | i do read xkcd |
| 17:04.55 | malreth | but i like Girly... it's a good story |
| 17:05.03 | malreth | this was the end of a side story |
| 17:05.19 | malreth | a really random side story |
| 17:05.33 | Shirik|Ecole | like this: http://xkcd.com/350/ |
| 17:05.51 | malreth | yeah... i already want to do that |
| 17:06.05 | malreth | i think i may use a projection screen to get it big enough |
| 17:06.27 | malreth | unless i really do become suparich and can get a huge lcd screen |
| 17:06.34 | |Jelly| | Shirik: roflamo |
| 17:07.46 | Shirik|Ecole | I might write a screensaver to simulate this |
| 17:08.00 | Shirik|Ecole | code in the logic behind the viruses and show them moving back and forth |
| 17:09.22 | Industrial | Anyone know where i can find groups of level 54 and up _beasts_ so I can skin them? keyword groups because I want to kill them by the pack not one by one |
| 17:09.23 | batrick | LMFAO |
| 17:09.27 | batrick | shirik that comic is awesome |
| 17:09.33 | Industrial | I'm just abotu done with the raptors in un'goro |
| 17:09.52 | laindir | yetis in winterspring? |
| 17:10.01 | Industrial | ah yes thanks |
| 17:10.17 | Industrial | in other news; http://www.destructoid.com/warning-playing-the-wii-may-end-up-in-bestial-rape-57330.phtml |
| 17:10.21 | cncfanatics | http://xkcd.com/350/ wins :o |
| 17:10.37 | Shirik|Ecole | batrick: xkcd is always awesome |
| 17:10.48 | malreth | so is girly.. :) |
| 17:11.04 | MentalPower | http://www.steampowered.com/status/survey.html <-- Interesting statistics on PC hardware |
| 17:12.31 | Industrial | all daddy's kids with 8800's, 2gb+ ram and dual core cpu's |
| 17:12.35 | Industrial | hows that interesting |
| 17:12.52 | Rayne | omfg |
| 17:12.52 | Rayne | like |
| 17:12.54 | Rayne | http://youtube.com/watch?v=D_-Uomo9Io8 |
| 17:12.54 | malreth | hey... i'm no daddy's kid |
| 17:12.55 | Rayne | COOLIO |
| 17:12.59 | Rayne | IN YOUR FACE |
| 17:13.02 | Shirik|Ecole | =( |
| 17:13.03 | malreth | i wish i had a father... |
| 17:13.07 | Shirik|Ecole | I'm in the 2% in graphics cards |
| 17:13.10 | Thunder_Child | Industrial, i guess that makes me my own daddy then |
| 17:13.12 | Shirik|Ecole | I feel so out of date |
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| 17:13.49 | Shirik|Ecole | haha |
| 17:13.50 | Industrial | Thunder_Child: you fail to see the bigger picture :P |
| 17:13.54 | Shirik|Ecole | and the 1% on 16:9 aspect ratios |
| 17:14.03 | Shirik|Ecole | I'm part of that 23" bracket :P |
| 17:14.09 | Thunder_Child | Industrial, it seems i do, enlighten me |
| 17:14.43 | malreth | the free hard drive statistic is a wonderful bell curve |
| 17:14.52 | malreth | simply beautiful |
| 17:15.11 | MentalPower | yeah, but the total HD space is terrible |
| 17:15.18 | Industrial | Thunder_Child: they should inquire to the age of the average player. I bet it's 13-16 :P |
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| 17:15.46 | Thunder_Child | Industrial, maybe, i know my clan has no one under the age of 18 in it |
| 17:15.59 | Shirik|Ecole | 8 HDDs ftw |
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| 17:16.07 | Thunder_Child | lol |
| 17:16.15 | Thunder_Child | 8 to = 1tb |
| 17:16.22 | Shirik|Ecole | well, some of them are tiny |
| 17:16.27 | Shirik|Ecole | I just keep upgrading, but I don't get rid of the old ones |
| 17:16.35 | Shirik|Ecole | I have one of my 8GB drives still in there |
| 17:16.43 | laindir | hardware or software raid? |
| 17:16.44 | Thunder_Child | i do, i only have finite connections |
| 17:16.46 | Shirik|Ecole | hardware |
| 17:16.49 | laindir | nice |
| 17:16.50 | Rayne | Sign that the servers might be up early, the forums are getting HELLA laggy |
| 17:17.04 | Thunder_Child | i have 5HDD's to = 1.8TB |
| 17:17.06 | kamdis | i can't even get any forum pages to load anymore |
| 17:17.08 | Shirik|Ecole | Thunder_Child: 8 SATA ports, 2 parallel ports :P |
| 17:17.14 | malreth | bug or feature: http://www.macosxhints.com/article.php?story=20071118083642465 |
| 17:17.20 | laindir | well, the login server was down earlier, up now |
| 17:17.26 | Shirik|Ecole | but I gotta run, take care |
| 17:17.41 | Shirik|Ecole | well, really, just moving buildings, but my school network doesn't hand off between BSSes properly |
| 17:17.44 | Shirik|Ecole | so I'll get disconnected :P |
| 17:18.36 | batrick | http://xkcd.com/163/ |
| 17:18.39 | batrick | i like that one |
| 17:18.53 | Thunder_Child | http://gizmodo.com/gadgets/wow/dell-world-of-warcraft-xps-m1730-gaming-notebook-unboxing-looting-and-grope-329752.php |
| 17:23.20 | Thunder_Child | "this box could be filled with in-game pets and i would be thrilled to do buisness with dell" |
| 17:24.58 | Thunder_Child | and he just called illidan arthas |
| 17:25.42 | malreth | my cat's name is Arthas |
| 17:26.00 | malreth | a truly epic name for a tabby |
| 17:26.34 | malreth | when i took him into the vet for his first checkup, the techs were all in the back saying, "Arthas? Is that like a god's name or something?" |
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| 17:26.50 | malreth | i mentally hi-fived myself when they said that |
| 17:26.58 | Lukian | An Account Upgrade Certificate enabling the upgrade of a World of Warcraft account1 to receive the Collector's Edition pets from both the original World of Warcraft Collector's Edition and the World of Warcraft: The Burning Crusade Collector's Edition |
| 17:27.00 | Lukian | :o |
| 17:27.17 | malreth | Lukian: Ebay! |
| 17:27.28 | Lukian | hell yeah hahaXD |
| 17:27.41 | Thunder_Child | i bet you can get half your money back from buyinf that system with ebay |
| 17:27.46 | Thunder_Child | buying* |
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| 17:28.25 | malreth | i love coming up with random responses when people ask me where to get the panda/diablo/zergling |
| 17:28.26 | Thunder_Child | i still have the murloc suit code i havent done anything with |
| 17:28.35 | *** mode/#wowi-lounge [+v Shirik|Ecole] by ChanServ |
| 17:28.41 | Rayne | When we started first learning MC, my buddy had the panda pet, and whenever we wiped we always said it was the pandas fault for sleeping and not healing |
| 17:28.57 | Rayne | Or someone tripped over it |
| 17:29.12 | gnorlish | mini diablo was the crux of every major kill up through nef |
| 17:29.18 | gnorlish | if he died, we all died |
| 17:29.26 | Rayne | Then one day we had 14 sleeping pandas on a rag kill... |
| 17:29.34 | Rayne | was a little absurd |
| 17:29.59 | Polarina | batrick: I like this one http://xkcd.com/303/ |
| 17:30.17 | Thunder_Child | http://gizmodo.com/gadgets/clips/toronto-cops-dont-like-bicycle-cars-329652.php |
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| 17:32.42 | Rayne | http://xkcd.com/75/ I want that on a shirt |
| 17:33.03 | amro | malreth: http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b377/Amro_/beggar1.jpg |
| 17:33.37 | malreth | lulz |
| 17:33.54 | malreth | it's like clucking at the chicken to get that pet |
| 17:34.18 | Kaso | did you plant the begging idea in his head? or was that just what he randomly asked |
| 17:35.11 | Rayne | http://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/classhole.jpg thats wrong |
| 17:35.33 | amro | Kaso: I planted it. notice the second one, I never even talked to him |
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| 17:42.37 | Shirik|Ecole | o.o we had freenode staff in here |
| 17:44.17 | Kaso | spies! spies! spies everywhere! |
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| 17:46.13 | Lopeppeppy | oh help. |
| 17:51.40 | zenzelezz | they knew Cairenn was away and someone had to watch us |
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| 18:06.04 | art3mis | dont worry ill pass everything i see here onto her tomorrow ;) |
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| 18:07.31 | Drea | Hello my friends!!! |
| 18:07.46 | Lopeppeppy | Nooooo! |
| 18:07.52 | Drea | hows everone doin this fine patchday? |
| 18:07.59 | Drea | sorry maintenanceday |
| 18:08.07 | malreth | oldie but goodie... http://www.joeydevilla.com/2006/06/16/the-dangers-of-world-of-warcraft/ |
| 18:09.59 | Drea | omfg. i nearly peed myself. thakns Mal. |
| 18:10.03 | Drea | thanks even |
| 18:12.22 | Drea | heheh i'll show u pvp bitch! |
| 18:12.23 | Drea | lol |
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| 18:18.34 | Rayne | Wow |
| 18:18.42 | Rayne | my servers maintenence is being extended |
| 18:18.44 | Thunder_Child | Shirik|Ecole, she has been here for a while |
| 18:18.49 | Rayne | maybe theyll fix KJ after 3 years |
| 18:20.23 | Thunder_Child | "your great aunt's first cousin once removed's sister-in-law's brother-in-law's ex-wife's brother-in-law " |
| 18:20.29 | Thunder_Child | because i really needed to know that |
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| 18:21.44 | Drea | hey. who wrote lightheaded? |
| 18:21.49 | cladhaire | i did |
| 18:21.49 | cladhaire | why |
| 18:22.38 | dylanm | cladhaire: Huge donation inc. |
| 18:22.43 | cladhaire | lulz |
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| 18:23.49 | Thunder_Child | there had better be at least 3 zeros after the number! |
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| 18:24.41 | Thunder_Child | (and no decimal points) |
| 18:24.58 | foxlit | 100000000 * 10^-20? |
| 18:26.08 | Shirik|Ecole | 10 ^ 10^0 |
| 18:26.10 | Shirik|Ecole | er |
| 18:26.13 | Shirik|Ecole | 10 * 10^0 |
| 18:26.30 | foxlit | What's the point? |
| 18:26.40 | Shirik|Ecole | it has 3 0s :) |
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| 18:28.25 | Thunder_Child | Shirik|Ecole, that works as a donation |
| 18:28.30 | Thunder_Child | err.. |
| 18:28.37 | Thunder_Child | ~lart Shirik|Ecole |
| 18:28.37 | purl | strangles Shirik|Ecole with a doohicky mouse cord |
| 18:28.42 | Shirik|Ecole | yeah but it's not $1000 |
| 18:28.47 | art3mis | you put a 1 and two zeroes before that! how much did you get? 100 wingwangs! |
| 18:28.56 | Drea | I love u Clad. :D |
| 18:29.02 | cladhaire | lol okay |
| 18:29.03 | cladhaire | :P |
| 18:29.29 | foxlit | No 2.3.2? 2.3.2? |
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| 18:29.37 | Drea | Seriously tho. I'm writing a leveling guide addon, and want to implement the waypoint system u use. is it really hard to do? |
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| 18:31.18 | Thunder_Child | *sigh* i opened three seperate searches in vista and explorer crashed |
| 18:31.22 | Drea | and it's not infringin on any copyright type things right? |
| 18:31.51 | ScytheBlade1 | Drea: not infringing on any rights, and not *overly* hard to do, assuming you've had some math classes and can work the distance formula. ;) |
| 18:32.45 | cladhaire | why not use TomTom |
| 18:32.50 | cladhaire | or TourGuide + TomTom |
| 18:33.15 | kergoth | tourguide + tomtom is lovely |
| 18:35.09 | Drea | well, the guide is for a friend and he's gonna sell it, so i'm doin my best to make it so that it's not dependant on any other mods |
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| 18:36.25 | Drea | besides that, the more i do myself. the better i get at creatin and codin, and less i have to come ask u guys for help |
| 18:36.27 | cladhaire | well then the answer to your question is no, its not easy to do it |
| 18:36.34 | cladhaire | you'd need astrolabe |
| 18:36.37 | cladhaire | or another map library |
| 18:36.41 | cladhaire | both of which are GPL |
| 18:36.46 | cladhaire | which wouldn't preclude you from using it |
| 18:36.48 | cladhaire | but *shrug* |
| 18:36.52 | art3mis | sell it? arent there already like 4 free ones that do exactly that? |
| 18:37.15 | Drea | a leveling guide? |
| 18:37.19 | art3mis | yeah |
| 18:37.25 | Drea | hmm. i hadn't heard of em |
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| 18:37.32 | art3mis | tourguide would be one |
| 18:37.41 | art3mis | and i cant remember the name of the other one on wowi |
| 18:37.55 | Thunder_Child | ~fail art3mis |
| 18:37.56 | purl | art3mis: Fail. |
| 18:37.59 | cladhaire | dunno why people buy leveling guides with tourguide |
| 18:38.01 | cladhaire | don't need anything else. |
| 18:38.06 | art3mis | yeah |
| 18:38.07 | ScytheBlade1 | Chances are if you want to write a mod to ask us less questions, the inverse will happen. I'm pretty much proof of that. |
| 18:38.10 | Drea | *shrug* they do. lol. |
| 18:38.50 | Drea | no no. the more i write and learn, the more knowledge i'll have. i'll always hang around ehre and ask i'm just hopin i'll be able to answer other peoples questions. lol |
| 18:39.14 | art3mis | hehe you dont need tow rite and learn to be able to do that ;P |
| 18:39.31 | ScytheBlade1 | Yeah, the inverse will happen. I had that same mentality. All you'll end up do is asking questions. |
| 18:39.35 | art3mis | look at me, i answer questions all the time, ad then someone corrects me and gives the right answer ;P |
| 18:39.39 | Drea | clad would you mind if i used lightheaded as my example to figure it out? |
| 18:39.49 | Drea | lol. right on. :D |
| 18:39.53 | cladhaire | considering its not done in lightheaded, yes. |
| 18:39.57 | cladhaire | it wouldn't get you very far. |
| 18:40.03 | Drea | oh. |
| 18:40.11 | Drea | lol. maybe i should look at tomtom? |
| 18:40.16 | cladhaire | suerw |
| 18:40.46 | Drea | howd u figure it out? lol. all by yerself? |
| 18:40.51 | cladhaire | i use a library |
| 18:40.53 | cladhaire | as i said. |
| 18:41.12 | cladhaire | so looking at TomTom won't get you much either |
| 18:41.17 | cladhaire | you'd need to look directly at Astrolabe |
| 18:41.30 | Drea | hmm. okay, i'll check it out |
| 18:41.34 | Shirik|Ecole | so, I know this is really behind the times |
| 18:41.47 | Drea | but at least now i know who to bug when i got totally confused. lol |
| 18:41.53 | Shirik|Ecole | but remember those guys who broke into various servers, etc., distributing trojans? |
| 18:42.00 | Shirik|Ecole | I think I just got through theirs >.> |
| 18:43.02 | art3mis | quick post all the accessed accounts on a webpage thatll show em! |
| 18:44.10 | Drea | delete all their porn! |
| 18:45.37 | Thunder_Child | if you really want to screw with them, you need to hinder them without letting them know whats going on |
| 18:46.05 | art3mis | hehe configure thier firewall to block incomings on the port thier trojan uses to dump stuff ;) |
| 18:46.08 | dolby-wowi | replace all their porn with hello kitty videos with out them knowing |
| 18:46.17 | ScytheBlade1 | Shirik|Ecole: details! |
| 18:46.20 | ScytheBlade1 | I know they're on IIS |
| 18:46.22 | ScytheBlade1 | But that's it |
| 18:46.24 | Shirik|Ecole | shh, I have to confirm this first |
| 18:46.30 | Shirik|Ecole | I can DoS the server, that's easy, but I want more |
| 18:46.34 | Thunder_Child | dolby-wowi, isnt that banned by the geneva accord? |
| 18:46.49 | Shirik|Ecole | Writing a program to check it right now, but I forgot how to make a POST request =( |
| 18:46.56 | ScytheBlade1 | ... |
| 18:47.29 | ScytheBlade1 | 1) Wireshark 2) POST data in your browser 3) ??? 4) Profie |
| 18:47.33 | ScytheBlade1 | s/Profie/Profit/ |
| 18:48.10 | Shirik|Ecole | don't have wireshark on this computer and really don't feel like getting it =( |
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| 18:48.17 | ScytheBlade1 | I actually wrote a PHP script once that made new threads on any phpBB forum, once every few seconds. |
| 18:48.20 | ScytheBlade1 | That was a fun script. |
| 18:48.51 | laindir | just trying to POST method in HTTP? |
| 18:49.10 | laindir | or am I way off? |
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| 18:49.40 | Shirik|Ecole | yes |
| 18:49.58 | Shirik|Ecole | The only part I get confused on is the actual data in the POST |
| 18:50.01 | Shirik|Ecole | everything else is easy |
| 18:50.43 | laindir | the HTTP request is basically identical to GET, but send everything to stdout instead of appending to the url |
| 18:50.54 | Shirik|Ecole | isn't there something like separators |
| 18:50.56 | Shirik|Ecole | and stuffs |
| 18:51.05 | laindir | it's all url encoded, just like with GET |
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| 18:51.39 | vargran | hi everyone |
| 18:51.44 | batrick | morning |
| 18:51.51 | vargran | evening :) |
| 18:51.55 | ScytheBlade1 | Two headers |
| 18:51.56 | vargran | where can I get Blizzards Skill UI sources? I want to hack a bit "Create All" button |
| 18:52.02 | ScytheBlade1 | Content-Length: numberOfBytes |
| 18:52.11 | ScytheBlade1 | \r\n |
| 18:52.12 | laindir | oh right, forgot |
| 18:52.19 | ScytheBlade1 | data |
| 18:52.21 | ScytheBlade1 | \r\n\r\n |
| 18:52.22 | ScytheBlade1 | Done. |
| 18:52.47 | ScytheBlade1 | Where data is typically "key=data&key2=data2" |
| 18:52.56 | foxlit | until you get to form encoding |
| 18:53.05 | foxlit | Which is heaps of fun :P |
| 18:53.16 | vargran | why it's pretty easy |
| 18:53.17 | vargran | ? |
| 18:53.53 | vargran | in perl sub encode {my $str=shift;$str=~s/([^\d\w_.-])//eg;$str} |
| 18:54.26 | foxlit | perl = unreadable |
| 18:54.40 | vargran | u just don't know how to read it :) |
| 18:54.41 | vargran | :P |
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| 18:55.20 | vargran | sub encode {my $str=shift;$str=~s/([^\d\w_.-])/sprintf("%%%02X",chr($1))/eg;$str} |
| 18:55.39 | vargran | forgot executed part in encoding |
| 18:55.43 | foxlit | still unreadable, yeah |
| 18:56.13 | foxlit | Anyway, I meant multipart/form-data encoding |
| 18:56.16 | vargran | I'm writing in perl about 5 years, believe me, everything is readable |
| 18:56.38 | foxlit | Defining readability by the ability to read the code without directly knowing the language |
| 18:56.40 | batrick | that's not something to be proud of :) |
| 18:57.17 | vargran | anyway, where can I get Blizzards Skills UI ? |
| 18:57.24 | foxlit | ~framexml |
| 18:57.25 | purl | Get the official Blizzard Interface AddOn Kit here: http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/ui/ or view it online at http://wdn.wowinterface.com |
| 18:57.54 | vargran | thnank ya very much |
| 18:58.23 | vargran | "purl"=~/p.rl/ -> ? |
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| 19:00.20 | Lunessa | I don't know why this (http://xkcd.com/351/) is so funny - but it is. |
| 19:00.56 | amro | Lunessa: what else would you expect from xkcd if not a good laugh? |
| 19:01.47 | Lunessa | He makes me laugh and think. It's a good read. But rickrolling isn't amusing - but rickrolling astley is ... /shrug |
| 19:01.50 | art3mis | its only funny if you've rickrolled someone or had it done to you |
| 19:02.20 | art3mis | tc didnt know who or what rickrolling was |
| 19:02.49 | art3mis | but i firmly believe that tc lives in a maytag box and is only allowed on irc |
| 19:04.09 | batrick | http://xkcd.com/30/ |
| 19:04.11 | batrick | LOL |
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| 19:11.15 | art3mis | alright STOP |
| 19:11.18 | art3mis | collaborate and listen |
| 19:11.26 | art3mis | ice is back with a brand new edition |
| 19:12.29 | zenzelezz | don't copy that floppy |
| 19:13.25 | art3mis | Chickedy China, the Chinese Chicken; Have a DruMstick & yer brain stops tickin'. |
| 19:15.31 | batrick | http://xkcd.com/225/ |
| 19:15.33 | batrick | o man |
| 19:17.38 | Thunder_Child | art3mis, i still dont know what it is |
| 19:18.25 | Thunder_Child | a music video is not an answer |
| 19:20.51 | Thunder_Child | ah, now i got it, i had to go look it up for myself |
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| 19:27.43 | Intangir | what other 'types' are there in lua? |
| 19:27.47 | Intangir | like whats the number type called? |
| 19:27.51 | Intangir | if i call type() on it |
| 19:28.13 | Shirik|Ecole | lua> type(4) |
| 19:28.13 | lua_bot | Shirik|Ecole: number, |
| 19:28.25 | Shirik|Ecole | but for the record |
| 19:28.39 | Shirik|Ecole | there is... number, function, string, thread, table, userdata |
| 19:28.41 | Shirik|Ecole | nil |
| 19:28.44 | Shirik|Ecole | I think that's it |
| 19:29.29 | Shirik|Ecole | qqqqq |
| 19:29.30 | Shirik|Ecole | Exception in thread "main" java.net.SocketException: Connection reset |
| 19:29.35 | Shirik|Ecole | I'm giving up on this for now |
| 19:30.14 | Intangir | Shirik|Ecole: thanks |
| 19:30.15 | haste | you forgot boolean |
| 19:30.20 | Shirik|Ecole | ah boolean |
| 19:30.33 | art3mis | and monkey |
| 19:30.38 | Intangir | so to load my saved variable i can do.. |
| 19:30.39 | Intangir | if not BFL_nMapScale or type(BFL_nMapScale) ~= "number" then |
| 19:30.40 | Intangir | BFL_nMapScale = nDefaultScale; |
| 19:30.40 | Intangir | end |
| 19:30.42 | art3mis | type(monkey) is popular |
| 19:31.09 | Lunessa | Sheesh. I take a day off the forums and miss all the excitement. |
| 19:31.30 | Shirik|Ecole | lua> local oldType = type; type = function(v) if v == "art3mis" then return "monkey" else return oldType(v) end end; return type("art3mis") |
| 19:31.30 | lua_bot | Shirik|Ecole: monkey |
| 19:31.59 | Shirik|Ecole | lua> return type("art3mis") |
| 19:31.59 | lua_bot | Shirik|Ecole: string |
| 19:31.59 | Shirik|Ecole | boo |
| 19:32.02 | Shirik|Ecole | non-persistent hooking ftl |
| 19:32.19 | Shirik|Ecole | lua> SV.type = function(v) if v == "art3mis" then return "monkey" else return type(v) end end |
| 19:32.20 | lua_bot | Shirik|Ecole: |
| 19:32.24 | Shirik|Ecole | lua> SV.type("art3mis") |
| 19:32.25 | lua_bot | Shirik|Ecole: monkey, |
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| 19:33.47 | batrick | zzz |
| 19:36.56 | Drea | So, i've got this huge table. each entry has a complete = false at every index. what i want to do, is be able to change that to true when the user checks a box. |
| 19:37.24 | Drea | do i need to have the table as a saved variable to get that work and keep the setting between logging in and out? |
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| 19:40.37 | Drea | bueler? |
| 19:40.39 | Drea | bueler? |
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| 19:43.49 | reqol | this is very odd |
| 19:44.06 | reqol | I have a function that returns true if you are in any major city correlated to your faction |
| 19:44.48 | Drea | what's odd about that? |
| 19:44.48 | reqol | it works on any city but shattrath |
| 19:44.53 | reqol | and the spelling is correct |
| 19:44.59 | reqol | and I just /dump IdleTime_GetCities() |
| 19:45.03 | reqol | and it returned true, in shattrath |
| 19:45.16 | reqol | but it won't assign the value that I want it to after it calls that function and finds a true value |
| 19:45.29 | Drea | hmm. could it be a problem with the extra factions having to do with shattrath? ie, aldor/scryer.? |
| 19:45.38 | amro_ | pastey |
| 19:45.42 | reqol | on it |
| 19:45.43 | reqol | sec |
| 19:46.35 | reqol | http://wowi.pastey.net/78472 |
| 19:47.32 | reqol | maybe I should use PLAYER_LOGIN instead of ADDON_LOADED ? |
| 19:48.40 | batrick | Drea: to your previous quest, yes that's what you have to do |
| 19:48.50 | batrick | s/quest/question |
| 19:48.54 | Polarina | reqol: PLAYER_ENTERING_WORLD? |
| 19:49.25 | Drea | hmm. BLAST.. thanks bat. guess i was gonna have to figure that out sometime. lol |
| 19:49.27 | reqol | Polarina: I'll try that |
| 19:49.30 | amro | reqol: which function are you talking about? the one where the assignment is supposed to happen |
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| 19:50.43 | reqol | still nil |
| 19:50.48 | reqol | oh, okay, just a seco |
| 19:51.13 | reqol | IdleTime_OnEvent |
| 19:51.28 | reqol | when I login, only in shattrath, does it not set IdleTimeVars.Time a value |
| 19:52.38 | Intangir | are the servers up? |
| 19:53.03 | Intangir | i just saw PLAYER_ENTERING_WORLD fires alot |
| 19:53.06 | Intangir | everytime you die |
| 19:53.10 | Intangir | everytime you load a new area |
| 19:53.32 | Shirik|Ecole | correct |
| 19:53.34 | Drea | batrick: This true/false value, should be per character, so i should do ##SavedVariablesPerCharacter: LevelGuide_SavedData |
| 19:53.45 | batrick | think so |
| 19:53.50 | Drea | i think i'm right, just confirm it.lol |
| 19:54.10 | batrick | looks right |
| 19:54.17 | bleeter | so.. erm.. anyone know what got fixed during the maintenance? Blizz don't seem to do their 'this week in hotfixes' anymore. |
| 19:54.32 | Intangir | wish they would freaking fix vanish |
| 19:54.42 | batrick | and blink lol |
| 19:54.49 | Intangir | whats wrong with blink? |
| 19:54.58 | bleeter | wish they'd fix the next attack after pounce being out of range |
| 19:54.59 | Drea | kk i'm usin the API howto to try and figure it out. so i'll be back with questions. lolo |
| 19:55.00 | batrick | wathc a mage blink inside wsg tunnels sometime |
| 19:55.03 | batrick | it's pretty funny |
| 19:55.28 | Intangir | what do you mean? |
| 19:55.38 | reqol | they don't go anywhere |
| 19:55.40 | reqol | bugs the hell out of me |
| 19:55.41 | batrick | well there are certain spots where you move backwards |
| 19:55.43 | bleeter | Intangir: what's wrong with vanish? |
| 19:55.45 | batrick | it's really frustrating |
| 19:55.47 | Intangir | lol |
| 19:55.53 | Intangir | vanish fails most of the time |
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| 19:55.58 | Intangir | like 80% of the time it does nothing |
| 19:56.02 | Intangir | even when not being attacked |
| 19:56.10 | Intangir | need to vanish twice to get it to work |
| 19:56.16 | Intangir | seems like if your in combat it doesnt work |
| 19:56.16 | bleeter | wish they'd also fix the priest shield graphic |
| 19:56.19 | Intangir | works better in pve |
| 19:56.47 | Intangir | whats wrong with priest shield graphic? |
| 19:57.07 | bleeter | it disappears randomly, and doesn't come back until recast... maybe.. if yer lucky |
| 19:57.07 | Intangir | looks like paladin graphic? |
| 19:57.10 | Intangir | i cant tell the difference |
| 19:57.19 | reqol | tried PLAYER_LOGIN and it's still nil |
| 19:57.26 | Intangir | reqol: what are you doing? |
| 19:57.36 | bleeter | the shield's still up.. just not visible on the player whatsoever |
| 19:57.46 | Intangir | oh weird |
| 19:57.49 | bleeter | well, 'cept via the buff icons |
| 19:58.06 | reqol | http://wowi.pastey.net/78472 |
| 19:58.12 | reqol | essentially here's what it does |
| 19:58.26 | reqol | on login, it uses the IdleTime_CheckCities() function and returns true if you are in a major city, false otherwise |
| 19:58.37 | reqol | it doesn't work in shattrath. the spelling is correct |
| 19:58.49 | reqol | other major cities it works fine |
| 19:59.16 | reqol | then on IdleTime_OnEvent, IdleTimeVars.Time doesn't have it's value set on the PLAYER_LOGIN event |
| 19:59.28 | reqol | even though /dump IdleTime_CheckCities() returns true when I try it |
| 20:00.11 | Intangir | i am new to this |
| 20:00.12 | Drea | http://wowi.pastey.net/78473 The tables i need to save. the only things that'll change due to user interface is the true/false values. do i need to do anything other than say in the .toc that i wanna save em. ? i mean, do i need to have this file at all? is it good to have it there for the default values? it seems as tho, these values will be replaced by the saved values once the addon_loaded is complete? |
| 20:00.22 | Intangir | i am sort of wrapping up my addon |
| 20:01.29 | Cide | Drea: every question you ask can be answered by looking at wowwiki or lua.org/pil |
| 20:01.34 | Drea | Reqol: i'd put some debugging code, perhaps its' just Shattrath, and not Shattrath city or somethin like that? |
| 20:01.45 | reqol | i'll try that |
| 20:02.04 | reqol | well, actually, the problem is |
| 20:02.05 | Drea | that's what i'm lookin at right now Cide, wowwiki, and i'm just makin sure i understand it correctly |
| 20:02.10 | reqol | this only came up after I changed IdleTime_GetTime() |
| 20:02.12 | reqol | before it was working fine |
| 20:02.25 | reqol | but I don't see how that function could affect it, at all |
| 20:02.38 | Cide | Drea: can you link me the page you're looking at? |
| 20:02.54 | Drea | well then, i'd take a look at what you changed, and again use some debugging code to help? |
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| 20:03.03 | Drea | http://www.wowwiki.com/Saving_variables_between_game_sessions |
| 20:03.56 | batrick | Drea, it seems you have a mixture of "data" and "configurations" int hose tables |
| 20:04.03 | batrick | you might want to invest some time seperating them |
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| 20:04.45 | Drea | actually it's all data batrick, to populate dropdowns, and then display in a window. there are no configurations for this addon yet. |
| 20:05.02 | Drea | what did u mean? IE? |
| 20:05.05 | batrick | so why do you need to save the data? |
| 20:06.24 | malreth | just catching up with the conversation... Drea: don't use complete=false in your table |
| 20:06.36 | malreth | just don't even define complete at all |
| 20:06.44 | malreth | that essentially sets complete to nil |
| 20:06.47 | ScytheBlade1 | Does anyone have the "turn in repeatable quest" macro handy? |
| 20:06.50 | malreth | and nil evaluates to false |
| 20:06.54 | ScytheBlade1 | I've got 800 marks to turn in.. |
| 20:06.59 | malreth | so your if-then logic should be maintained |
| 20:07.02 | Drea | just the true/false values batrick, because the user will be able to change false to true in the LevelGuide_StepData table. IE They check a box when they finish a step. this sets this step to complete (true) when all the steps for a certain LevelRangeAndZone are true, the corresponding true/false in the LEvelRangeAndZone table is automagically set to true. |
| 20:07.08 | batrick | malreth: it's better to leave with false for debugging purposes |
| 20:07.12 | malreth | but your table will take up a fraction of the space |
| 20:07.41 | batrick | it's a small optimization |
| 20:08.00 | malreth | meh |
| 20:08.24 | Drea | suppose i don't need the true/false in the other two tables at all. i have a function that checks the stepdata and displays complete or not for the other two tables. |
| 20:08.48 | batrick | Drea: then you do have configurations for your AddOn... because the user can change those values |
| 20:09.22 | Thunder_Child | *sigh* i have had a search runing in explorer for over 30 min...%*&$# |
| 20:09.40 | Drea | batrick: ok, understood. so u think i should just keep the complete status in a new table? and just save that table? |
| 20:10.09 | batrick | well if it makes sense to have a new table that has all the values of "complete = X" |
| 20:10.23 | batrick | and you can save that one across sessions |
| 20:11.04 | reqol | okay, apparently sometime during loading or something IdleTime_CheckCities does not evaluate to true, because I added an elseif not IdleTime_CheckCities, and it fired. but then I /dump it and it says true |
| 20:11.43 | Drea | hmm. so LevelGuide_StepComplete = { [1]=[LevelGuide_StepData[1], complete = false }, etc etc etc? |
| 20:12.07 | Intangir | how does wow determine the order the addons will get events in? |
| 20:12.18 | Intangir | cause its giving me events sooner than another, which overrides what i i just did |
| 20:12.36 | batrick | !g loading events fired site:wowwiki.com |
| 20:12.39 | batrick | wow |
| 20:12.52 | Intangir | lol did you crash the bot? |
| 20:13.43 | batrick | yes |
| 20:14.14 | malreth | http://www.wowwiki.com/Events_that_fire_during_the_Loading_Process |
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| 20:15.25 | Intangir | but how can i recieve an event after another addon |
| 20:15.43 | Intangir | the Blizzard_BattlefieldMinimap addon gets it AFTER i do (mines battlefieldLocator) |
| 20:15.50 | Intangir | is it aphabetical order? |
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| 20:16.27 | Drea | I"d say it's alphabetical, i can't find anythin in the wiki that says otherwise |
| 20:16.40 | malreth | Intangir: it's undocumented |
| 20:16.43 | Drea | and addon_loaded fires after each addon loads. |
| 20:16.44 | malreth | and likely undefined |
| 20:17.23 | Drea | i suppose u could writ e a lil addon, that keeps track of each addon_loaded event, and tells u what one gets added each time it fires, and find out that way? |
| 20:17.25 | malreth | it's possibly in the order that the addons registered for that particular event |
| 20:17.26 | Intangir | i cant make the minimap icons for points of interest in the battlefield minimap stay smaller |
| 20:17.35 | malreth | which may not be the order that they were loaded in |
| 20:17.37 | bleeter | whoa, no patch? |
| 20:17.47 | Drea | nah was just maint. bleeter |
| 20:17.47 | bleeter | guess that means more maintenance next week :/ |
| 20:18.01 | bleeter | poor bloody sandgropers will be really pissed off =) |
| 20:18.05 | bleeter | 8pm shutdowns ftl |
| 20:18.23 | Drea | gotta give ppls SOME reaso to complain |
| 20:19.09 | malreth | Intangir: what event are you talking about, in particular? |
| 20:19.29 | Intangir | sec.. let me find it again |
| 20:19.50 | Drea | batrick: So a table with 462 entries, that corresponds to an index in LevelGuide_SavedData, that just has complete=boolean in it? |
| 20:20.08 | bleeter | Drea: they're already complaining about the high/full/locked status of all Oceanic realms, the 30+ min/700+ queues to get in ;) |
| 20:20.31 | Drea | dang! i did notice that my main server isn't up yet. :( |
| 20:21.23 | bleeter | I'm sure if 60% of the US servers were locked each night, it'd be fixed pretty damn quickly |
| 20:21.32 | batrick | Drea: yes, that's it |
| 20:21.58 | Drea | hmm. LevelGuide_StepCompleteStatus = { [1] = { index = #, complete = boolean}, [2] = { etc etc |
| 20:22.10 | batrick | You know what your data looks like, and the order of the array, so it's a safe assumption on your part about the order in the config table |
| 20:22.11 | Drea | look like a decent implementation? |
| 20:22.20 | batrick | no |
| 20:22.51 | batrick | unless you are going to have things other than "complete" to save, you should just do [1] = true, [2] = false etc. |
| 20:23.47 | Drea | .. LevelGuide_StepCompleteStatus = [1] = true, [2] = true [3] = etc etc. where the index corresponds to the index of LevelGuide_StepData indicies? |
| 20:23.56 | malreth | correct |
| 20:24.10 | malreth | otherwise it's redundant repetition of data that is not necessary |
| 20:24.24 | malreth | :) |
| 20:24.39 | Drea | awesome! that gives me another idea. |
| 20:24.54 | reqol | could anyone give me advice on debugging? I'm stumped here. |
| 20:25.45 | Drea | can i set up a for loop int eh lua that inits all the values to false? and when variables loaded fires it should set the correct values from the saved vars file? |
| 20:25.57 | batrick | no |
| 20:26.00 | Drea | oh |
| 20:26.05 | batrick | just have your table with all the default values in it |
| 20:26.06 | malreth | reqol: if i've been following correctly, it's likely that you're trying to find player location information during login before that information has been made available to the UI |
| 20:26.07 | batrick | well |
| 20:26.14 | batrick | actually ya a for loop would be best |
| 20:26.20 | reqol | malreth: yeah, that's probably it |
| 20:26.23 | reqol | I just odn't know where to go from here |
| 20:26.47 | reqol | I guess look for another event |
| 20:26.57 | batrick | LevelGuideStepCompleteStatus = {} for i = 1, #sometable do LevelGuide...Status[i] = false end |
| 20:26.58 | reqol | that fires on login/reloadui |
| 20:27.13 | batrick | sometable would be that huge array you had up earlier |
| 20:27.26 | Drea | don't matter what hte default values are right bat? the values get changed to whatevers in the saved vars file whenever VARIABLES_LOADED fires right? |
| 20:27.52 | batrick | yes and no |
| 20:27.57 | batrick | first time your addon loads it matters |
| 20:28.26 | batrick | understand that when loading, all your files in .toc are loaded and THEN your saved variables are loaded |
| 20:29.21 | batrick | think of it as if I wanted to save a = 1, and in my saved variables a = 2. I can save a=1 in my .lua file and expect it to be overwritten when the saved variables file is loaded |
| 20:29.42 | batrick | that's all the saved variables file is, another .lua file |
| 20:30.45 | Thunder_Child | whats a good domain name registration company? |
| 20:31.10 | Drea | so, every time the addon is loaded, the table will be set to all false, so i have a function that captures VARIABLES_LOADED, that goes thru and shows complete status as nessecary AFTER that fires? |
| 20:32.26 | Drea | and create a function that changes the status as needed when the box is checked, and that will be saved on reloadUI or logout. ? |
| 20:34.23 | batrick | yes to most of your questions |
| 20:34.50 | Drea | awesome. seems i have a bunch of code to rewrite to accomodate all this, so i better get to work. |
| 20:34.53 | batrick | I'm pretty sure |
| 20:35.02 | Drea | :D i'll be back if i have problems. heeh |
| 20:35.11 | batrick | that ADDON_LOADED("youraddon") will only happen after your variables are loaded |
| 20:35.19 | batrick | you don't need to monitor VARIABLES_LOADED at all |
| 20:35.26 | Intangir | the error i was taling about was like ZONE_CHANGED or something |
| 20:35.37 | Intangir | ZONE_CHANGED |
| 20:35.46 | Intangir | i get it |
| 20:35.53 | Intangir | set the scaling for POI (points of interest) smaller |
| 20:35.59 | Intangir | then bizz gets it, and sizes them big again.. |
| 20:36.04 | Intangir | so i cant keep them small |
| 20:36.11 | Drea | http://www.wowwiki.com/Saving_variables_between_game_sessions is what i'm lookin at. but instead i culd use addon_loaded and do allm y init stuff at taht point. good idea |
| 20:36.28 | Drea | wow excuse my tpos |
| 20:36.33 | batrick | it's ok |
| 20:36.36 | Drea | s/tpos/typos |
| 20:36.38 | Drea | lol |
| 20:36.40 | batrick | but ya, do everything with ADDON_LOADED |
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| 20:36.55 | Drea | awesome. :D gimmie a couple hours. i'll be back. lol |
| 20:36.58 | batrick | i just made sure, it is fired _after_ your variables are loaded |
| 20:37.16 | Drea | first i need a smoke. :D |
| 20:37.42 | malreth | you know... i just wrote a saved variables example earlier |
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| 20:38.09 | malreth | http://wowi.pastey.net/78461 |
| 20:38.22 | Rayne | malreth: NO U |
| 20:38.41 | malreth | ~rule Rayne |
| 20:38.42 | purl | malreth rules and Rayne drools |
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| 20:39.14 | malreth | purl does and that's all that matters |
| 20:39.23 | Rayne | pfffft |
| 20:39.24 | malreth | ~botsnack |
| 20:39.24 | purl | malreth: aw, gee |
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| 20:41.50 | Intangir | who wants to test my addon..? |
| 20:41.57 | mikma | what is it |
| 20:42.02 | mikma | the friend on minimap thingy? |
| 20:42.06 | Intangir | ya |
| 20:42.09 | mikma | meeee! |
| 20:42.11 | Intangir | and shows combat, and whos dead |
| 20:42.16 | Intangir | ok let me zip up the latest revision |
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| 20:42.38 | batrick | fixxxxed |
| 20:42.39 | mikma | does my friend need to have the same addon? |
| 20:42.53 | Intangir | mikma: no but you have to be in a raid/party or BG with him |
| 20:43.07 | mikma | Intangir: this works only in BG? |
| 20:43.13 | Intangir | no it works outside too |
| 20:43.17 | Intangir | but only if they are grouped with you somehow |
| 20:43.20 | Intangir | its mainly for BGs |
| 20:43.23 | mikma | hell yeah, that's sweet, gimme gimme fast! |
| 20:43.24 | Intangir | but works well for world PvP also |
| 20:43.26 | bleeter | hahahahah... rofl... hahahaha http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=3168526728&postId=32336846106&sid=1#0 |
| 20:44.07 | batrick | i figured out a cute way to escape stuff in gsub |
| 20:45.22 | Intangir | mikma: ok its now at http://intangir.googlecode.com |
| 20:45.26 | Intangir | i just updated it |
| 20:45.34 | Intangir | and i havent tested the latest version ;) i added saving variables HOPEFULLY.. |
| 20:45.38 | Intangir | so it should save your scaling settings |
| 20:45.55 | batrick | --> do local dumb; local dumbf = function() return dumb end dumb = "%1%2%3" return string.gsub("%date{%d/%M/%Y}", "%%date{(.-)}", dumbf) |
| 20:45.55 | batbot | batrick: > [string "0"]:1: 'end' expected near '<eof>' |
| 20:46.00 | batrick | --> do local dumb; local dumbf = function() return dumb end dumb = "%1%2%3" return string.gsub("%date{%d/%M/%Y}", "%%date{(.-)}", dumbf) end |
| 20:46.00 | batbot | batrick: > %1%2%3, 1 |
| 20:46.06 | batrick | \o/ |
| 20:51.38 | Intangir | mikma: if you see any errors, or if its not loading the scaling right let me know, also there is a built in keybinding (a blizzard one) to show the battleground map |
| 20:51.41 | Intangir | id set a key for it |
| 20:51.57 | Intangir | my addon only alters the built in maps |
| 20:52.07 | Intangir | world map and battleground (battlefieldmini)map |
| 20:52.12 | mikma | Intangir: i'll install it right now and start testing |
| 20:52.18 | Intangir | sweet |
| 20:52.40 | mikma | Intangir: BattlefieldLocator? |
| 20:57.27 | Intangir | ya |
| 20:57.47 | Intangir | oh i also added it to request guild and friend data on load |
| 20:57.52 | Intangir | instead of waiting for you to open it |
| 20:57.58 | Intangir | im not sure if that makes it actually open those dialogs.. |
| 20:58.00 | Intangir | i hope not |
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| 21:03.01 | bleeter | hmm some reports coming in that there's a patch for Wine D3D GL_INVALID_OPERATION that's improved the situation in http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=8774 if anyone cares to test |
| 21:04.35 | Intangir | i use opengl |
| 21:04.54 | Drea | for index, key in ipairs(LevelGuide_StepData) do |
| 21:04.54 | Drea | LevelGuide_StepComplete = { [index] = false; }; |
| 21:04.54 | Drea | end |
| 21:05.11 | Drea | for creating that table. should work right? |
| 21:05.57 | batrick | umm |
| 21:06.31 | batrick | LevelGuide_StopComplete = {} for i = 1, #LevelGuide_StepData do LevelGuide_StepComplete[i] = false end |
| 21:07.39 | batrick | btw ipairs is nice but it creates garbage |
| 21:07.55 | batrick | --> return ipairs(_G), ipairs(_G) |
| 21:07.55 | batbot | batrick: > function: 0x8075e78, function: 0x8075e78, table: 0x80bd7d0, 0 |
| 21:08.02 | batrick | o nvm, i'm full of shit lol |
| 21:08.31 | Drea | lol. ok. i'll leave it as is then. to deal with things if StepData increases in size. |
| 21:08.31 | batrick | that's interesting |
| 21:08.53 | Thunder_Child | ok, search is still going on 1 1/2 hours later..... |
| 21:08.56 | Drea | i have hat in my OnLoad function. :D |
| 21:09.13 | Drea | damn Thunder_Child, that's quite a search |
| 21:09.41 | batrick | maybe you should have the search avoid your porn folders |
| 21:10.09 | Thunder_Child | i know...i have about 1 TB of filled storage |
| 21:10.16 | Thunder_Child | not much porn though |
| 21:10.49 | Thunder_Child | i have exacting standards so i get rid of most of it |
| 21:12.24 | bleeter | Thunder_Child: I'm assuming you're not thunderchld in #wowhead |
| 21:12.41 | batrick | later all |
| 21:12.59 | bleeter | iirc, thunderchld came by here yesterday abusing you for having 'his' nick, and I thought it was you and told them to msg nickserv ghost etc. |
| 21:13.03 | bleeter | cya batrick |
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| 21:13.34 | Thunder_Child | bleeter, wait what? |
| 21:14.17 | bleeter | whoa.. my world server's down =) |
| 21:14.18 | mikma | Intangir: so, what's up with the red spots? (combat?) |
| 21:14.43 | amro | I gotta see this |
| 21:14.44 | Intangir | mikma: ya |
| 21:15.05 | bleeter | Thunder_Child: someone called thunderchld came by yesterday, see the # logs for details. By their level of ... conversation atm in #wowhead, I'm guessing it's not you. As you seem to have at least one braincell ;) |
| 21:15.05 | Intangir | seems to not work while your dead.. |
| 21:15.14 | Intangir | like when im dead, it wont tell me whos in combat? |
| 21:15.20 | Intangir | once i res it shows it again |
| 21:15.29 | Thunder_Child | bleeter, shh dont blow my cover, i have none |
| 21:16.14 | Drea | Intangir: do you keep track of the dead event? seems like u could just tell it to work when that event goes off? |
| 21:16.51 | Intangir | when im dead shouldnt effect anything |
| 21:17.01 | Intangir | unless 'UnitIsEffectingCombat' stops working while your dead |
| 21:17.15 | Intangir | which may be the case i dont know |
| 21:17.41 | Intangir | UnitAffectingCombat |
| 21:17.44 | Drea | well u can't go into combat when yer dead.. |
| 21:17.56 | Intangir | ya so it seems to not tell you who else is in combat at that point either |
| 21:18.07 | Intangir | if thats the case i guess theres njust nothing i can do about it |
| 21:19.23 | Intangir | Returns to false on death. |
| 21:19.28 | Thunder_Child | i see your having fun amro |
| 21:19.31 | Intangir | wonder if that means YOUR death? or the unit your checking ;) |
| 21:21.30 | Intangir | mikma: if you focus or target your teammates, it should show an indicator for that also |
| 21:21.33 | Intangir | try it out |
| 21:21.38 | Intangir | you can focus a good healer, and stick close to him for heals ;) |
| 21:21.57 | mikma | ooh |
| 21:22.46 | amro | Thunder_Child: thunderchld is like 12 |
| 21:23.07 | Intangir | i also like to use eit in AB to see which area is being attacked |
| 21:23.12 | bleeter | amro: smoooth on those nickserver queries ;) |
| 21:23.15 | Intangir | if you see farm suddenyl had 1 guy in combat, 1 guy dead. better go farm |
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| 21:25.41 | amro | bleeter: he was just begging to have his ass handed to him |
| 21:26.24 | bleeter | aye |
| 21:29.07 | Thunder_Child | oh well, i get more crap from friends, besides, i do indeed seem to be smarter |
| 21:29.24 | Thunder_Child | search 2 hrs+ |
| 21:29.35 | amro | Thunder_Child: check #wowhead, seems he's a she |
| 21:30.04 | Thunder_Child | and not 13...i would imagine |
| 21:32.00 | bleeter | oO report that there's some gas clouds in Nagrand! |
| 21:32.25 | reqol | how do you stop a cut from bleeding? |
| 21:32.35 | reqol | I've com,pressed it but it wont stop |
| 21:33.01 | JoshBorke | apply pressure and elevation |
| 21:33.41 | Thunder_Child | cold |
| 21:33.49 | Thunder_Child | constricts the vessels |
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| 21:35.12 | Thunder_Child | at least the conversation got better in wowhead |
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| 21:44.03 | Intangir | mikma: you there? |
| 21:44.24 | mikma | Intangir: ya |
| 21:44.45 | Intangir | mikma: can you change the scaling, and then do /console reloadui |
| 21:44.50 | Intangir | and see if it saves the scaling settings |
| 21:44.56 | mikma | sure |
| 21:44.57 | Intangir | is everything working for you? |
| 21:45.51 | mikma | Intangir: yeap, even the scaling works |
| 21:46.04 | malreth | Intangir: RESULT! |
| 21:48.13 | Intangir | it saves the scaling? |
| 21:48.24 | mikma | yes :) |
| 21:48.26 | Intangir | sweet |
| 21:48.30 | Intangir | well thats fantastic.. |
| 21:48.34 | Intangir | theres not much more to add to it now then |
| 21:48.40 | Intangir | i want to scale down the player arrow |
| 21:48.42 | Intangir | and the point of interest icons |
| 21:48.45 | Intangir | and thats a wrap |
| 21:48.58 | mikma | Intangir: have a look at Baud Map btw, it has some nice features in it |
| 21:49.48 | Intangir | bah! |
| 21:49.56 | Intangir | oh this is brand new too? |
| 21:50.26 | malreth | Intangir: could you secure hook the blizzard function that sets the poi icon scaling? |
| 21:50.38 | Intangir | whats a secure hooK? i have no idea what it is |
| 21:50.50 | malreth | !api securehook |
| 21:50.51 | ThraeBot | malreth: Could not find a relevant page. Perhaps you could be so kind as to create one? http://www.wowwiki.com/API_securehook |
| 21:50.59 | malreth | durh |
| 21:50.59 | Intangir | if its possible to hook a function, that may be exactly what i need |
| 21:51.18 | malreth | !api hooksecurefunc |
| 21:51.19 | ThraeBot | malreth: hooksecurefunc([table,] "functionName", hookfunc) -- http://www.wowwiki.com/API_hooksecurefunc |
| 21:51.32 | Intangir | oh boy ;) |
| 21:51.40 | Intangir | oh ya i noticed my minimap shows player blips different now |
| 21:51.43 | Intangir | i dont know what addon is doing it |
| 21:51.49 | Intangir | but they are a sharper looking blue dot |
| 21:52.00 | Intangir | instead of the normal blizz version |
| 21:52.21 | Intangir | so far mine does nothing with the minimap window |
| 21:52.30 | Intangir | just the battlefield minimap |
| 21:52.33 | Intangir | not the top right one |
| 21:53.13 | Intangir | why does it call it 'secure' hook? |
| 21:53.16 | Intangir | whats so secure about it? |
| 21:53.39 | Intangir | this basically calls my function with the same args as the first? . does it have to be any special kind of a functioN? or can it be a function from any other persons addon? |
| 21:54.39 | malreth | there's no "special kind of function" in lua... the wowwiki docs are pretty spot on |
| 21:54.57 | Intangir | wow this is perfect |
| 21:54.59 | malreth | you tell it the name of the function to hook, and give it your function to be called |
| 21:55.08 | Intangir | thanks man this will be perfect |
| 21:55.17 | malreth | the notes explain what 'secure' means |
| 21:55.17 | Intangir | this wouldve saved me quite alot of duplication on the menu i overrode aswell |
| 21:55.37 | Intangir | oh actually i guess it wouldnt have on that one |
| 21:55.48 | Intangir | cause you cant change the return |
| 21:56.11 | Intangir | still perfect for overriding the size |
| 21:56.14 | Intangir | thx a ton |
| 21:56.23 | Intangir | i always heard yall talking about secure hooking and have no idea what you were talking about |
| 21:56.25 | malreth | normally, you should use an event in most circumstances |
| 21:56.39 | malreth | but since you really are trying to override default behavior, a hook is appropriate |
| 21:57.09 | Thunder_Child | ~logs |
| 21:57.09 | purl | i heard logs is apt/ibot/infobot/jbot/purl all log daily to http://ibot.rikers.org/<channelname>/ where channelname is html encoded ie: %23debian | lines that start with a space are not shown | some channels have stats at http://ibot.rikers.org/stats/<channelname>.html.gz |
| 21:57.55 | malreth | ha... the example code uses table.foreach |
| 21:58.29 | Thunder_Child | *sigh* 2 1/2 hours and counting |
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| 22:10.03 | Thunder_Child | http://gizmodo.com/gadgets/explosions/rocket-launcher-vs-bulletproof-glass-in-a-battle-for-the-ages-329886.php |
| 22:10.33 | Drea | OnLoad runs before VARIABLES_LOADED fires correct? |
| 22:10.37 | Thunder_Child | slow-mo about 2 min in is really cool |
| 22:11.00 | malreth | OnLoad runs right when your addon .lua files are loaded |
| 22:11.19 | Drea | okay, thanks |
| 22:11.30 | malreth | but you can get the exact same effect by just putting code outside of any function blocks in your .lua files |
| 22:11.45 | malreth | so i tend to not use it |
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| 22:29.37 | Intangir | i think it loads ALL addons |
| 22:29.45 | Intangir | then calls ADDON LOADED for all addons, ON all addons.. |
| 22:29.53 | Intangir | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:30.01 | Intangir | cause it calls ADDON LOADED for addons that arnet yours, TO your addon |
| 22:30.10 | malreth | only the addons that load after you |
| 22:30.21 | testleK|away | Anyone know a good LUA frame tutorial out there? I couldn't really find anything on wowwiki? |
| 22:30.21 | krka | testleK|away: Lua is not an acronym. It is a Portuguese word that means moon. |
| 22:30.49 | malreth | Intangir: http://www.wowwiki.com/UI_Code_Load_Order |
| 22:30.56 | malreth | ~pil |
| 22:30.57 | purl | Programming in Lua, a book written by the authors of the Lua programming language. The first edition is available free online at http://www.lua.org/pil and covers Lua 5.0. The second edition is available in print from most online bookstores, and covers Lua 5.1. |
| 22:31.10 | malreth | oh... frame tutorial |
| 22:31.23 | Intangir | malreth: i guess it does load in alphabetical order then |
| 22:31.33 | Intangir | i still had my ADDON LOADED code looking for blizzards minimap |
| 22:31.35 | Intangir | instead of my own |
| 22:31.38 | malreth | Intangir: barring dependencies |
| 22:31.42 | Intangir | works though apparently. cause they always load after |
| 22:31.56 | Intangir | if i set my addon as a dependancy of it.. then i will load 2nd? |
| 22:32.05 | Intangir | i mean, set it as a dependancy of mine |
| 22:32.18 | Intangir | its a built in blizz addon though too |
| 22:32.21 | Intangir | its not like you can turn it off |
| 22:32.36 | malreth | Intangir: is blizzard's minimap addon load on demand? |
| 22:32.52 | Intangir | um. i dont know? hwo do you tell? |
| 22:32.54 | Intangir | i dont think so |
| 22:33.26 | testleK|away | malreth: so I have that link and I couldn't really find any frame stuff on there? |
| 22:33.50 | malreth | testleK|away: i know... hence my followup message, "oh... frame tutorial" |
| 22:33.58 | testleK | oh lol missed that hehe |
| 22:34.01 | testleK | sry |
| 22:34.17 | malreth | Intangir: http://wdn.wowinterface.com/code/2237359/AddOns/Blizzard_BattlefieldMinimap/Blizzard_BattlefieldMinimap.toc |
| 22:34.17 | testleK | I went back to dobule check :P |
| 22:34.19 | malreth | the answer is yes |
| 22:36.31 | malreth | so instead if you wanted to make sure your addon gets loaded after the minimap addon, you'd make your addon loadondemand and add Blizzard_BattlefieldMinimap to your ## LoadWith: line |
| 22:36.44 | malreth | http://www.wowwiki.com/TOC_format#LoadWith |
| 22:37.40 | malreth | ok... gotta go catch a bus |
| 22:40.46 | zenzelezz | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MDUQW8LUMs8 |
| 22:47.01 | Thunder_Child | 3 hours and counting.... |
| 22:48.01 | Thunder_Child | this makes me want to turn indexing back on |
| 22:48.44 | zenzelezz | what are you doing? |
| 22:48.45 | bleeter | ewwww |
| 22:48.54 | Thunder_Child | doing a search |
| 22:49.08 | zenzelezz | search? For three hours? |
| 22:49.15 | Thunder_Child | 1+ TB of data |
| 22:49.24 | Thunder_Child | 1 - 1.3 or so |
| 22:49.27 | zenzelezz | searching inside the files? |
| 22:49.30 | Thunder_Child | no |
| 22:49.37 | Intangir | ok if a blizz addon has load on demand.. |
| 22:49.50 | Intangir | when is it 'demanded' exactly? |
| 22:49.53 | Thunder_Child | well...maybe...it may search inside of compressed files |
| 22:49.58 | Thunder_Child | i am not sure |
| 22:50.00 | Intangir | cause the code that toggles its frame on IS in the addon script.. |
| 22:50.53 | zenzelezz | TC: I'm not sure, of course, but I can't imagine traversing a file system should take that long unless you're doing something odd |
| 22:51.36 | Thunder_Child | well, ~1.2TB across 5 drives, in vista with no indexing |
| 22:51.56 | Thunder_Child | (thats TB used, not total) |
| 22:52.27 | zenzelezz | even so, file systems are lookup tables; unless you've got a whole lot of tiny files it sounds illogical to take so long - but I'm speculating |
| 22:52.46 | Thunder_Child | dfeine tiny |
| 22:52.48 | Thunder_Child | define* |
| 22:52.59 | zenzelezz | well, small enough to mean you can fit a lot of files ;) |
| 22:52.59 | testleK | "in vista with" well theres your problem :P |
| 22:53.04 | Thunder_Child | 10mb? |
| 22:53.15 | zenzelezz | basically just the amount of files I can imagine that would make it take a while |
| 22:53.27 | zenzelezz | unless, as mentioned, it's doing something more than a basic search |
| 22:53.55 | Thunder_Child | like, 10,000 pictures, 15,000 mp3s kind athings? |
| 22:54.01 | Thunder_Child | kinda things* |
| 22:55.46 | zenzelezz | just my C: partition has 29000 files :-p But I'm not familiar with your data or your search, so I may be jumping to wrong conclusions; or even just plain wrong about searching |
| 22:55.51 | zenzelezz | I like to think I know more than I do |
| 22:56.20 | Thunder_Child | well i dont know anything about the search, it's a basic windows search |
| 22:56.41 | Thunder_Child | though tbh with indexing it would take 1/4 of the time or so |
| 22:57.06 | Thunder_Child | it's just that when i first installed vista i was having issues with it, so i canned it |
| 23:00.07 | Drea | argh, it's not populatin my tables. |
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| 23:04.22 | alestane | Is there a format for supplying animations to the UI, like the pet autocast file, or are we stuck swapping textures manually? |
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| 23:09.44 | Thunder_Child | zenzelezz |
| 23:09.45 | Thunder_Child | B:\ 225,446 |
| 23:09.45 | Thunder_Child | C:\ 150,910 |
| 23:09.45 | Thunder_Child | P:\ 289,583 |
| 23:09.46 | Thunder_Child | S:\ 27,444 |
| 23:09.46 | Thunder_Child | Z:\ 48,011 |
| 23:09.48 | Thunder_Child | Total: 741394 |
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| 23:10.14 | zenzelezz | that's a lot of porn |
| 23:10.20 | Thunder_Child | cute |
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| 23:16.06 | Wobin | clearly Thunder_Child categorizes like 4chan |
| 23:16.32 | Cidan | So I'm writing a paper for English on the rise of the Roman empire and the rise of the American empire, and how they parallel |
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| 23:16.39 | Cidan | I had named it, "Rise of Nations" |
| 23:16.40 | Cidan | but you know |
| 23:16.47 | Cidan | I think "Age of Empires" works better. |
| 23:16.50 | Thunder_Child | Wobin, eh? |
| 23:16.52 | Wobin | hehe |
| 23:16.52 | Shirik|zZz | ha |
| 23:17.03 | Shirik|zZz | There are many that have already stated that the US has already passed its peak |
| 23:17.14 | Wobin | Perhaps "Civilizations" |
| 23:17.17 | reqol | for i=1,100 do |
| 23:17.18 | reqol | DEFAULT_CHAT_FRAME:AddMessage("Blow me") |
| 23:17.18 | reqol | end |
| 23:17.20 | Wobin | Or "SimCity" |
| 23:17.25 | Cidan | I doubt that it has, Shirik |
| 23:17.25 | Shirik|zZz | There are, concurrently, many that are saying that China will be the next superpower, which is actually somewhat scary |
| 23:17.28 | reqol | wtf |
| 23:17.34 | art3mis | Wasteland |
| 23:17.35 | reqol | hmmm |
| 23:17.43 | reqol | apparently someone has been at my computer ;_; |
| 23:17.48 | Cidan | However, yes and no to the China part. |
| 23:17.58 | reqol | does windows have something like the lock function of linux? |
| 23:18.10 | amro | windows logo + l |
| 23:18.12 | Wobin | reqol: give your account a password |
| 23:18.14 | amro | L that is |
| 23:18.17 | Wobin | then ctrlaltdel and lock |
| 23:18.17 | Shirik | windows+L |
| 23:18.24 | art3mis | yeah you tick the "erquire password on resume" in the screen saver option ;P |
| 23:18.35 | Cidan | China really keeps to it self (_please_ don't start with Tibet, it has always been a part of China) so I don't see it being a "super power" in the sense that the US is. |
| 23:18.37 | Shirik | if you have the XP home screen, then you need to turn that off |
| 23:18.38 | art3mis | windows is totally high tech like that |
| 23:18.42 | reqol | lol |
| 23:18.43 | reqol | well |
| 23:18.46 | reqol | I have my laptop at work |
| 23:18.49 | reqol | and someone was messing with it |
| 23:18.51 | reqol | apparently |
| 23:18.52 | Shirik | ok then yeah windows+L |
| 23:18.53 | reqol | so i'll try that |
| 23:19.06 | Shirik | but any administrator can break it, of course |
| 23:19.10 | Shirik | and anyone can break it by shutting down the computer |
| 23:19.24 | Cidan | same as linux |
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| 23:19.45 | Shirik | zomg 2087 arena points |
| 23:19.51 | reqol | ugh |
| 23:19.52 | testleK | or break it by sticking in a usb key with auto run program :P |
| 23:20.12 | testleK | since it will autorun even while pc is "locked" |
| 23:20.14 | reqol | I thought I could leave it in the other room but i guess not. now a bunch of files are gone |
| 23:21.10 | Thunder_Child | what a messed up name http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pflugerville%2C_Texas |
| 23:22.12 | reqol | so, if I'm trying to access information that isn't available to the ui yet, why does it only do this for shattrath? |
| 23:22.34 | Thunder_Child | Wobin, what was that comment about? |
| 23:24.00 | Cidan | reqol: 'splain. |
| 23:24.07 | reqol | here's the deal |
| 23:24.36 | reqol | http://wowi.pastey.net/78472 here is my addon. everything works EXCEPT when I load into shattrath. |
| 23:25.02 | reqol | the OnEvent handler for the event ADDON_LOADED does not work, despite IdleTime_GetCities returning true when I try it, I guess at the time of it loading it fires as false |
| 23:25.18 | reqol | I've tried PLAYER_ENTERING_WORLD and PLAYER_LOGIN, neither changes anything |
| 23:25.21 | reqol | all of the other cities work fine. |
| 23:25.43 | Cidan | er |
| 23:25.51 | Cidan | ADDON_LOADED doesn't fire, you say? |
| 23:25.54 | Wobin | http://www.stage6.com/user/Surgee/video/1910919/World-of-Warcraft---Unofficial-Patch-Trailer-by-Surgee |
| 23:25.54 | reqol | no, |
| 23:25.55 | reqol | it fires |
| 23:26.01 | reqol | but |
| 23:26.01 | Wobin | Thunder_Child: nothing in particular =P |
| 23:26.07 | reqol | IdleTime_GetCities returns false |
| 23:26.12 | reqol | and it doesn't do the part of that if then |
| 23:26.14 | Thunder_Child | Wobin:..... |
| 23:26.16 | reqol | BUT |
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| 23:26.24 | reqol | IdleTime_GetCities works when I try it in-game |
| 23:26.32 | reqol | which leads me to believe that it's just when ADDON_LOADED fires |
| 23:26.40 | reqol | or up until then I guess |
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| 23:27.33 | Cidan | so this is when you walk into shatt? |
| 23:27.39 | Cidan | or just when you login while in shatt? |
| 23:28.14 | reqol | login |
| 23:28.16 | reqol | just when I login |
| 23:28.37 | reqol | every other time IdleTime_GetCities returns true if I'm in shatt |
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| 23:28.46 | Cidan | ah, I see, I see |
| 23:29.07 | Cidan | so GetRealZoneText(); isn't giving you data |
| 23:29.13 | reqol | apparently so |
| 23:29.25 | Cidan | do us a favor, shove the output of GetRealZoneText(); into ADDON_LOADED |
| 23:29.31 | Cidan | output it to the screen somewhere |
| 23:29.31 | reqol | okay |
| 23:29.33 | Cidan | see what it does |
| 23:30.00 | Cidan | so we can see what data it gives; this will show us if it is indeed the problem |
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| 23:31.32 | Thunder_Child | stupid freakin 4 hour + search! |
| 23:31.36 | alestane | Dammit, there are eighteen dozen different sphere mods and none of them quite do what I want. |
| 23:33.05 | Wobin | http://community.livejournal.com/worldofwarcraft/6388301.html |
| 23:33.06 | reqol | Cidan: it doesn't print anything |
| 23:33.07 | Wobin | oh man |
| 23:33.08 | Wobin | shiny |
| 23:33.16 | Wobin | but omg $4.5k |
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| 23:33.26 | reqol | with the line DEFAAULT...("Zone text: " .. GetRealZoneText()) |
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| 23:33.37 | reqol | it just prints Zone Text: |
| 23:33.41 | reqol | so it seems to be the problem |
| 23:33.48 | |Jelly| | All your spam are belong to me. |
| 23:33.51 | Cidan | Yeppers, there you go. |
| 23:34.04 | Cidan | and if you do it say, 5 seconds later? |
| 23:34.12 | reqol | Shattrath City |
| 23:34.23 | reqol | for both GetZoneText and Real |
| 23:34.28 | Cidan | then that looks like your only solution |
| 23:34.29 | malreth | reqol: confirming what i thought earlier today? |
| 23:34.34 | reqol | indeed malreth |
| 23:34.39 | reqol | looking for a solution |
| 23:34.48 | Cidan | You already have it. :P |
| 23:35.04 | *** mode/#wowi-lounge [+o cladhaire] by ChanServ |
| 23:35.16 | Cidan | it's cladhaire!!! |
| 23:35.21 | cladhaire | kues |
| 23:35.22 | cladhaire | lies |
| 23:35.24 | Cidan | lol |
| 23:35.24 | Cidan | wtf |
| 23:35.25 | reqol | use GetZoneText or use a different event? |
| 23:35.25 | Cidan | :D |
| 23:35.43 | Cidan | reqol: delay the entire thing by 2-3 seconds |
| 23:35.48 | Cidan | or use a different event |
| 23:35.49 | Cidan | lol |
| 23:35.50 | reqol | I don't know how to do that |
| 23:35.52 | reqol | delay, that is |
| 23:35.53 | malreth | try WORLD_MAP_UPDATE |
| 23:36.16 | malreth | if that doesn't work... i don't know what else... a delay timer is a pain but doable |
| 23:36.24 | Cidan | nah, easy as pie |
| 23:36.40 | malreth | never said it wasn't easy |
| 23:36.44 | Cidan | just write a small framework for task management, shouldn't take you but like, 15-20 min |
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| 23:37.06 | malreth | nah... just kludge in a frame with a stupid onupdate handler |
| 23:37.11 | Shirik | hey |
| 23:37.12 | Cidan | ew, :P |
| 23:37.15 | Shirik | what's that supposed to mean Cidan |
| 23:37.19 | Cidan | NOTHING |
| 23:37.23 | Cidan | YOURS IS MUCH MORE COMPLEX |
| 23:37.23 | reqol | I don't know how to write a framework for taskmanagement |
| 23:37.24 | Cidan | lol |
| 23:37.24 | reqol | ;_; |
| 23:39.54 | malreth | reqol: i'd bash out an example... but i think i'm going to actually log in and play this game you kids call, "World of War Craft" |
| 23:40.58 | reqol | if I could just get a nudge in the direction I could do it |
| 23:41.11 | malreth | instead... i'll make |Jelly|Laptop write it for you |
| 23:41.11 | reqol | but I don't know what you mean by a 'framework for task management' |
| 23:41.20 | malreth | don't do a framework for task management |
| 23:41.21 | Cidan | reqol: Well, you know how to do events, and OnUpdate... you know how to get the system time too... put it together |
| 23:41.25 | |Jelly| | What? |
| 23:41.30 | Thunder_Child | actually malreth, we call it wow...or World of Warcraft" |
| 23:41.37 | Cidan | nonsense, don't listen to malreth, always code for reuse. :P |
| 23:42.16 | Lunessa | kids? You damned kids git off my lawn |
| 23:42.33 | malreth | bah... code reuse is one of those things they "talk" about in college but never ever happens... like female orgasms |
| 23:42.54 | malreth | also |
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| 23:42.56 | malreth | ~malreth |
| 23:42.57 | purl | malreth is always right |
| 23:43.01 | malreth | damn right |
| 23:43.10 | Thunder_Child | uh, you mean high school, right? cuse it does happen in college |
| 23:43.18 | testleK | ~botsnack |
| 23:43.18 | purl | testleK: thanks |
| 23:43.21 | malreth | Thunder_Child: orgasms? |
| 23:43.30 | Thunder_Child | yes, not the cinversation |
| 23:43.35 | Thunder_Child | conversation* |
| 23:43.44 | Thunder_Child | err..no, the conversation |
| 23:43.46 | Thunder_Child | damit! |
| 23:43.58 | Thunder_Child | ~fail Thunder_Child |
| 23:43.58 | purl | Thunder_Child: Fail. |
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| 23:45.01 | Cidan | Yeah, if I coded without reuse this late in my life, I think I'd die. :/ |
| 23:45.17 | Cidan | REDUCE REUSE RECYCLE |
| 23:45.57 | reqol | so I should just create another lua file and add it to the folder with the stuff necessary inside? |
| 23:45.59 | foxlit | You're sure that's not |
| 23:46.05 | foxlit | EMBRACE EXTEND ABANDON? |
| 23:46.36 | malreth | kludge! kludge! kludge! |
| 23:47.02 | Cidan | reqol: Your call on how you want to structure it; but I wouldn't kludge if I were you. |
| 23:48.24 | testleK | whats kludge?:P |
| 23:48.38 | malreth | ~dict kludge |
| 23:48.57 | reqol | lol |
| 23:49.11 | testleK | lol kool ty |
| 23:49.18 | testleK | ~botsnack |
| 23:49.18 | purl | thanks, testleK |
| 23:50.03 | Cidan | Man, I really need to make sure I chat here more |
| 23:50.05 | Cidan | all these new faces |
| 23:50.12 | Cidan | How does one keep up? |
| 23:50.16 | malreth | you'll learn more by kludging in a solution and then fixing it hastily whenever you need it to work more generically |
| 23:50.17 | testleK | hehe |
| 23:50.30 | malreth | Cidan: actually, you're the new face to me... :D |
| 23:50.36 | Lunessa | Haha |
| 23:50.44 | Cidan | Such is life. |
| 23:50.54 | Lunessa | I'm the "not really new, sort of pipes up once ina while" face. |
| 23:51.03 | testleK | well im sure my entire addon is 'kludge' cause I dont know what I'm doing :P |
| 23:51.17 | malreth | testleK: that's the spirit! |
| 23:51.22 | Cidan | nor did I when I started RDX.Cid |
| 23:51.25 | Cidan | man that was horrible |
| 23:51.47 | testleK | but Im having a blast doing it :P |
| 23:51.51 | malreth | it's like working on your own car |
| 23:52.12 | testleK | its actually made wow really fun again :P |
| 23:52.40 | malreth | like a playset of really delicate blocks that you have to keep putting back together |
| 23:52.44 | malreth | ah... fun |
| 23:52.50 | testleK | lol |
| 23:53.11 | malreth | !c us silver hand malreth |
| 23:53.11 | ThraeBot | malreth: malreth is not the character you are looking for! |
| 23:53.17 | malreth | WRYYYYYYYYYYYYY!!!!! |
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| 23:53.43 | malreth | who do i have to cyb0r in the game to get my character to show up in the armory? |
| 23:54.07 | testleK | well tbh my addon tiny and only responds to slash commands, I dont know how to string things together for not having a million sv's defined in the toc and I have a long way to go before it actually -does- something but once it gets there I'm sure I'll have the opinion of... "ah... fun" LOL |
| 23:54.40 | Cidan | well |
| 23:54.41 | malreth | !c us silver hand micheil |
| 23:54.43 | ThraeBot | malreth: Micheil, Level 12 Dwarf Hunter (0/0/0). 293 HP; 345 Mana; 34 mana regen; 2.45% melee crit; 5.45% ranged crit; 4.75% dodge; 10 frost resist (+10);[[ TBR: 137 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/22wlo4 ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/2v9bt3 ][ Updated: Tue Dec 4 18:55:19 2007 EST ]] |
| 23:54.55 | malreth | the hell! my AH mule shows up! |
| 23:54.58 | Cidan | http://www.conspiracy-ui.com/lua is a good starting point |
| 23:55.07 | *** join/#wowi-lounge QQngsk (n=Gngsk@c-69-138-213-251.hsd1.md.comcast.net) |
| 23:55.18 | foxlit | The hell it isn't! |
| 23:55.21 | Cidan | man, I can't wait 'til the next two weeks are over, I'm going to expand on that tutorial, the UI, and tons of other shit. |
| 23:55.25 | foxlit | "foxlit sucks, this is a comment too." wtf! |
| 23:55.52 | Cidan | foxlit: You were all up in mah business about the tutorial, remember? :P |
| 23:56.02 | foxlit | Oh, I know why it's there |
| 23:56.10 | foxlit | I'm just acting indignant :P |
| 23:56.14 | Cidan | hehehe. |
| 23:57.02 | testleK | Cidan: cool ill check that out and read through it see if I can figure more out :P |
| 23:57.25 | *** join/#wowi-lounge frop (n=weechat@unaffiliated/frop) |
| 23:57.28 | frop | hiho |
| 23:57.39 | frop | got a question |
| 23:57.52 | frop | is normal having 7fps on a boss fight in SSC? |
| 23:58.17 | testleK | hey sweet something about frames without xml on here |
| 23:58.20 | Cidan | frop: That... depends on your system? |
| 23:58.29 | testleK | Cidan: That your website? |
| 23:58.42 | frop | Cidan: a dual core with 2GB ram and a 7600GT :( |
| 23:58.46 | Cidan | testleK: Indeed, Shirik and I work on Conspiracy together. |
| 23:58.53 | frop | 1680x1050 |
| 23:59.05 | frop | upon a linux system |
| 23:59.11 | Cidan | It may with that resolution, there's no real way to know for sure... |
| 23:59.23 | Cidan | It could be an addon eating up CPU |
| 23:59.39 | frop | could be due to /combatlog? |
| 23:59.58 | frop | using ACE addons mostly |
