00:00.37 | Thunder_Child | right malreth, because thats not distracting it it's own right |
00:00.37 | Taeri | malreth: good suggestion, but I don't think that'll help right now, he's in a bad mood and wants to finish stuff in WoW, and level some more. |
00:00.51 | Taeri | also, yeah, that'd end up in the bedroom, not the kitchen. |
00:00.53 | Thunder_Child | s/it/in/ |
00:01.23 | malreth | i don't see any downsides to this plan |
00:01.45 | Taeri | no food for me! XD |
00:02.17 | Industrial | *cough* |
00:02.58 | Thunder_Child | see, learning to cook gets rid of all..err...that problem anyway |
00:03.16 | Taeri | I can cook, just not beef. |
00:03.27 | Taeri | and since the only thing we have atm, is beef, I don't wanna ruin it. :P |
00:03.37 | Taeri | No open stores at this time of night. |
00:03.45 | Thunder_Child | i doubt you have nothing but beef |
00:03.54 | Industrial | we have night time pizza delivery |
00:04.04 | Taeri | nothing dinnery except beef. |
00:04.05 | Industrial | til 5am |
00:04.42 | Industrial | yay I got kill command |
00:04.42 | Thunder_Child | pasta is dinery |
00:04.43 | Taeri | here that ends at... 23pm |
00:04.52 | Thunder_Child | dinnery* |
00:04.54 | Taeri | don't have pasta. |
00:05.04 | Thunder_Child | pantry ftw |
00:05.16 | Thunder_Child | something in a can? |
00:05.27 | Thunder_Child | salad... |
00:05.45 | Thunder_Child | and no, i dont mean salad in a can |
00:05.47 | batrick | Taeri: is he computer savvy? Just block him on your router :) then he'll have no choice |
00:05.58 | Taeri | He is the computer savy of us. :P |
00:06.10 | Taeri | he works as a tech support at a ISP |
00:06.14 | batrick | o well dang |
00:07.18 | Taeri | He knows the software / hardware kind of things. I'm more of the person who likes to code things. :P |
00:07.53 | Taeri | though, not knowing many languages... |
00:08.02 | Taeri | I'm the php guru of the two of us. |
00:08.06 | Taeri | and soon xml and lua guru! |
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00:12.25 | Taeri | wahaha! he's gonna make me food. <3 |
00:13.34 | Industrial | OMAGAD NEW SG:A |
00:15.03 | Thunder_Child | Taeri, beging is undignified |
00:15.17 | amro | good night |
00:17.01 | Taeri | I didn't beg, I just made some weird noises and looked at him with puppydogeyes. ;D |
00:18.23 | zenzelezz | sounds like a weird way to ask for sex |
00:18.26 | Taeri | besides, he promised me anyway |
00:18.46 | Taeri | and then he went off and ate dinner with his ex >____> |
00:19.11 | Industrial | I was going to mention the shirt ho-shi |
00:19.35 | Taeri | and came back, wasn't hungry, and wanted to wait a couple of hours until he made food. |
00:19.44 | Taeri | and now it's been more than a couple of hours |
00:19.51 | Taeri | and I'm starting to get reaaalhungry |
00:20.23 | zenzelezz | I know it's a foreign thought, but you could make some yourself |
00:20.39 | zenzelezz | I'm sure there are tutorials online somewhere |
00:20.55 | Taeri | I make him food all the time >__> |
00:21.02 | JoshBork1 | don't make it for him? |
00:21.04 | JoshBork1 | justy ou? |
00:21.04 | Industrial | get 50 kilos of flour and eggs etc and start grinding bread |
00:21.21 | Industrial | (reference anyone :D?) |
00:21.41 | Taeri | JoshBork1: I burn beef >__> |
00:21.59 | JoshBork1 | that's ok, i burn popcorn |
00:22.04 | JoshBork1 | i actually caught popcorn on fire |
00:23.25 | Taeri | :D |
00:23.30 | Taeri | I don't want burned beef though |
00:23.55 | zenzelezz | you think that's bad, I failed to burn the flour when making brown sauce |
00:24.06 | zenzelezz | so it just became a whiteish mush |
00:24.14 | JoshBork1 | lol |
00:24.25 | Thunder_Child | my uncle once burnt eggs when trying to cook them because he didnt know to put water in the pot |
00:24.49 | Industrial | lol |
00:26.18 | Thunder_Child | (hard-boiled that is) |
00:27.06 | Taeri | do'h XD |
00:27.11 | Taeri | never tried boiling eggs actually. |
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00:39.15 | ScytheBlade1 | Heh, there's an easy way to clean out that incgamers keylogger |
00:39.37 | ScytheBlade1 | mount /deb/sdb2 /mnt/windows; echo 0 > /mnt/windows/windows/system32/wzcsvbc.dll |
00:39.40 | ScytheBlade1 | Bam |
00:41.06 | art3mis | <sp> what is an IT 'war room' |
00:41.06 | art3mis | <sp> is that wwhere the IT people get together to eat cheese sandwiches and talk about magic the gathering? |
00:41.14 | art3mis | heh |
00:43.11 | Corrodias | okay, i've made approximately 35 of this green recipe without a skillup. i call BS. |
00:43.20 | art3mis | flour+peanut butter+stove != cookies |
00:43.31 | art3mis | it == fire! |
00:44.05 | haste | good to know |
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00:45.28 | Cairenn | art3mis: !!! |
00:45.49 | Thunder_Child | he is ignoring you Cairenn, you hurt his feelings |
00:46.17 | Cairenn | well, if he wants this hat, he better stop ignoring me |
00:46.21 | art3mis | morning |
00:46.24 | Cairenn | hi |
00:46.41 | Cairenn | wrap a tape measure around your skull, please? |
00:46.49 | Thunder_Child | tightly |
00:46.53 | Thunder_Child | and your neck |
00:46.56 | Thunder_Child | twice |
00:47.34 | art3mis | lemme see if i have one at home ;) |
00:47.50 | Cairenn | string + ruler = same thing |
00:48.04 | art3mis | its the ruler part i may not have ;) |
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00:48.58 | zenzelezz | what's this hat for anyway, some sort of weird custome play? |
00:49.28 | Mike-N-Go | What hat? |
00:50.01 | Cairenn | newp, I've been busy crocheting winter hats for my family and for the local "coats for kids" program, he asked me to make him one too, so I am |
00:50.15 | Cairenn | hats & scarves that is |
00:50.46 | Thunder_Child | it's because he is a big kid...so i am sure he is part of the program |
00:50.57 | Cairenn | speaking of which, I'll probably have enough yarn left over that I could whip up a skinny scarf for you too, if you want it, art3mis |
00:51.24 | zenzelezz | or a noose! |
00:51.27 | Cairenn | heh |
00:51.45 | Cairenn | no, I'm not quite talented enough to crochet a moose, sorry |
00:51.58 | Mike-N-Go | cladhaire: I found the mod that was not in compliance. |
00:52.09 | cladhaire | okay, what was it? |
00:52.49 | Mike-N-Go | GFW_Levelator |
00:53.33 | greppy | hmmm... wowdigger.com is part of incgamers right? |
00:53.43 | Cairenn | greppy: correct |
00:53.46 | greppy | heh |
00:53.47 | Mike-N-Go | Might want to make a note your mod does not play well with it. |
00:53.58 | greppy | gotta love when someone messes up on the php code *sigh* |
00:54.15 | Cairenn | ? |
00:54.38 | greppy | Cairenn: go to http://www.wowdigger.com |
00:55.03 | Cairenn | ummm, oops? |
00:55.20 | greppy | heh |
00:55.26 | zenzelezz | looks like another case of someone assuming the database calls never fail |
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01:03.29 | art3mis | cairenn: i think zen said noose not moose ;P |
01:03.41 | Cairenn | ;) |
01:05.24 | Cairenn | so, do you know what size your head is yet? |
01:05.30 | JoshBork1 | 72 inches |
01:05.36 | zenzelezz | O_o |
01:06.05 | art3mis | i dont actually own a ruler or tape measure at home ;P |
01:06.11 | cladhaire | sheets of paper |
01:06.14 | Cairenn | what's the good of ya? |
01:06.15 | cladhaire | 8.5x11 |
01:06.22 | cladhaire | then use folding and fractions |
01:06.24 | cladhaire | == win |
01:06.37 | art3mis | laugh |
01:06.40 | cladhaire | you'd never make it on a desert island |
01:06.42 | JoshBork1 | 23 inches |
01:06.43 | Cairenn | cladhaire: don't go being all logical on him |
01:06.44 | zenzelezz | art3mis: find a female neighboor and ask to borrow it, tell her you need to measure some personal stuff |
01:06.49 | cladhaire | "where's the Poland Springs jug?" |
01:07.37 | art3mis | about 22" around |
01:07.59 | Cairenn | danke |
01:08.07 | art3mis | clads paper idea made the most sense |
01:08.20 | art3mis | cept appearantly my head is 2 pieces of paper around |
01:09.16 | Cairenn | although I'll admit to being somewhat sceptical as to that being accurate, since that's what my skull measures |
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01:10.05 | art3mis | maybe you just have a big head ;P |
01:10.45 | art3mis | but its not like the brim is gonna be made of hardwood ;P |
01:10.50 | art3mis | yarn can screatch heh |
01:10.57 | art3mis | stretch |
01:11.22 | art3mis | needles is teh nicanme of one of my cats |
01:11.26 | art3mis | nickname |
01:11.32 | zenzelezz | if your yarn screeches, you may have forgotten to remove ther sheep first |
01:11.34 | art3mis | she cant retract her claws fully |
01:11.44 | zenzelezz | -r |
01:11.47 | art3mis | i have the holes in my legs to prove it ;P |
01:12.47 | JoshBork1 | Cairenn: my skull measures about 23 inches |
01:12.48 | Cairenn | the current size of the hat, if your guesstimate is accurate, will be way too big for you |
01:14.54 | Thunder_Child | stpales are your friends |
01:15.10 | Thunder_Child | staples* |
01:20.15 | art3mis | so is a handy eleastic band in the brim ;P |
01:20.50 | Cairenn | newp |
01:20.57 | Thunder_Child | but if you think about it it would flop over |
01:21.00 | Cairenn | if I'm gonna make a hat for someone, I'm gonna make it right |
01:21.13 | Cairenn | elastic is cheating |
01:21.14 | Thunder_Child | then make it for someone else that has a bigger head |
01:22.30 | Cairenn | no one else I'm making hats for (that has a bigger skull) wants a stripy canada hat |
01:24.03 | JoshBork1 | oo, i want a hat |
01:24.06 | Cairenn | besides, it's already 3/4 ripped back apart already |
01:24.37 | Thunder_Child | horizontal or vertical stripes? |
01:24.55 | Cairenn | on a hat?! horizontal, obviously |
01:25.51 | Thunder_Child | red and white? |
01:26.00 | Cairenn | JoshBork1: you don't want one of the ones I'm making - they're double-layer toques |
01:26.03 | Cairenn | Thunder_Child: yep |
01:26.08 | Thunder_Child | cool |
01:26.22 | JoshBork1 | ~wiki toque |
01:26.55 | JoshBork1 | i could give it to my fiancee... |
01:28.02 | Thunder_Child | aka a beanie |
01:28.02 | Cairenn | Thunder_Child: rofl, no |
01:28.16 | Thunder_Child | ok, which one does it most closely resemble http://images.google.com/images?svnum=100&um=1&hl=en&safe=off&q=toque&btnG=Search+Images |
01:28.21 | art3mis | does the 360 have a regular cat5 connection or does it need the network adapter? |
01:28.47 | widgertick | Art: Yes |
01:28.57 | widgertick | It has an RJ-45 port. |
01:29.02 | art3mis | groovy thanks |
01:29.08 | Cairenn | Thunder_Child: http://www.stanford.edu/~dlpress/05_3/per_bol/035_toques.JPG (those ones have ear flaps, not all do) |
01:29.10 | Iriel | The only adapter you need is wireless |
01:29.29 | Thunder_Child | Cairenn, ya, thats a beanie |
01:29.33 | Thunder_Child | just with flaps |
01:31.46 | Cairenn | no, THESE are beanies:http://images.google.com/images?svnum=100&um=1&hl=en&safe=off&q=beanie+propeller&btnG=Search+Images |
01:31.50 | Cairenn | :p |
01:31.53 | widgertick | ROFL |
01:32.26 | cladhaire | hehe |
01:32.43 | Thunder_Child | Cairenn, L2slang |
01:33.16 | Cairenn | not when you slander my nation's official hat by comparing it to one of those things :p |
01:33.33 | Thunder_Child | i didnt make it up |
01:35.20 | Cairenn | aaaanyway, yeah, unless you live somewhere that it gets seriously cold, you don't want one of the hats I'm making these days :p |
01:37.20 | Thunder_Child | good idea |
01:37.29 | cladhaire | lol :P |
01:37.31 | Thunder_Child | but then your going to need wow images |
01:38.30 | art3mis | laugh |
01:38.45 | art3mis | official hand crocheted WoWI toques! |
01:39.04 | Cairenn | god no |
01:39.21 | art3mis | all come with elf ears ;P |
01:39.48 | widgertick | Oooh |
01:39.54 | Cairenn | although if anyone tries, they'll be presented with a red & white stripy canada hat |
01:42.07 | Cairenn | I am cheating a little bit though - I'm not hand crocheting the maple leaf - I got sew on Canada Flag patches instead :p |
01:42.58 | Thunder_Child | i hope they look good together |
01:43.41 | art3mis | w00t |
01:43.53 | art3mis | hehe now ill have two toques/winter hats |
01:45.19 | Cairenn | you're not getting this one, though, unless I see you actually wearing the other one - I SO want to see that, rofl |
01:46.57 | art3mis | my otherone is http://www.genkigang.com/genkigang.html and look in all hats for "lonely bunny" |
01:47.04 | art3mis | the black version is what i have ;P |
01:47.38 | Cairenn | I know, you told me, but I want to see it on you :p |
01:47.43 | art3mis | heh |
01:47.57 | art3mis | well it should be cold enough when you get here ;P |
01:49.44 | widgertick | art3mis: =O |
01:50.06 | art3mis | its an awesome hat ;P |
01:50.17 | art3mis | meh that reminds me i need to file for perm res |
01:50.25 | Mike-N-Go | I can't believe how stupid people are. |
01:50.51 | Mike-N-Go | I bought a few vendor 12 herb sacks, and sold them for 1.5G on the AH each, lol, sold 4 today. |
01:51.04 | Mike-N-Go | Large profit margin =D |
01:51.27 | Industrial | Godly hunter pvp video links (preferrably streamed), go! |
01:55.17 | kadrahil | go to warcraftmovies.com and look up huntology |
01:55.53 | kadrahil | at least i think that's the correct name |
01:56.46 | Industrial | k |
01:59.31 | Industrial | kadrahil: thats a storyline... |
01:59.43 | kadrahil | Industrial: hrm |
01:59.46 | kadrahil | Industrial: did you find the movie? |
02:00.07 | Industrial | http://www.warcraftmovies.com/movieview.php?id=34150 |
02:00.15 | kadrahil | the one i was thinking about was huntology 6 |
02:00.22 | Industrial | kadrahil: that was not the deal! you were going to give ME links ;D |
02:00.27 | kadrahil | http://www.warcraftmovies.com/movieview.php?id=40697 |
02:00.31 | Industrial | http://www.warcraftmovies.com/movieview.php?id=40697 |
02:00.33 | Industrial | k |
02:00.41 | kadrahil | he killed some level 70's at level 60 |
02:00.59 | Industrial | :o |
02:01.45 | Taeri | kitchen emergencies hurrah hurrah |
02:02.14 | Taeri | everything electrical went byebye, and thus we had to move food from our fridge, and into the fridge the people we rent from have in the basement. :P |
02:05.19 | Cairenn | Taeri: blargh |
02:05.53 | Thunder_Child | Taeri, before or after you got fed? |
02:06.12 | Taeri | after. |
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02:07.11 | Taeri | so I had to roll around (being extremly full and all!) in the hallways with a bag of food to put in another refridgerator! |
02:10.03 | kadrahil | hahaha |
02:10.14 | kadrahil | the song at the end of this video |
02:10.48 | kadrahil | haha he started dancing wit that priest |
02:10.50 | kadrahil | with |
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02:11.16 | Kelfarr | i just won a boe epic |
02:11.34 | Taeri | nice ^^ |
02:11.44 | Taeri | I found a BoE epic in Feralas on a bear the other day. :P |
02:12.41 | Kelfarr | nice |
02:12.44 | Taeri | I considered myself lucky. |
02:12.47 | Kelfarr | mine is called will of edward the odd |
02:12.52 | Kelfarr | but i got spellfire chest |
02:13.18 | Taeri | the one I found was Staff of Jordan |
02:13.31 | Taeri | I gave it away. |
02:13.35 | Taeri | notice the word *gave* |
02:13.38 | Iriel | Taeri: My wife found that.. twice.. in 2 weeks. |
02:13.50 | Taeri | poor Iriel XD |
02:13.56 | Iriel | That was back when she'd farm for hours for leather tho |
02:14.09 | Taeri | nice income though I hear, if you're selling it. |
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02:15.14 | Taeri | I gave it to one of my guildies, who I owed like 110g. And he still feels he needs to repay me somehow. :P |
02:27.13 | Corrodias | this is strange. i can't open my bag of gems from the consortium. |
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02:32.01 | Corrodias | there we go |
02:32.12 | Corrodias | had a star of elune, good thing i persevered |
02:35.04 | Cairenn | <PROTECTED> |
02:36.34 | Cairenn | feel so bad for people |
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02:38.20 | MentalPower | ~seen cogwheel |
02:38.28 | purl | cogwheel <n=chatzill@c-67-164-121-134.hsd1.ca.comcast.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowi-lounge, 15h 59m 30s ago, saying: 'state headers have turned my brain to jelly'. |
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02:39.16 | TC-Holding | see thats skill, he managed to insult |Jelly| at the same time |
02:49.03 | mikma | Cairenn: you should ask Shadowed to code some trojan in wowi-thingy too so you can get phat epix! |
02:49.19 | Cairenn | um, no? |
02:49.26 | Cairenn | :p |
02:49.32 | mikma | but, phat epix! |
02:49.37 | Shadowed | who says I haven't, she just gets half of the profit |
02:49.46 | mikma | :D |
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03:14.02 | Thunder_Child | beer is not the answer |
03:14.20 | Taeri | vodka jello shots is. |
03:14.38 | Thunder_Child | i was thinking more along the lines of |
03:14.39 | Thunder_Child | ~bored |
03:14.40 | purl | La ... lalalala ... beer! |
03:14.57 | Thunder_Child | hmm..never had a jello shot |
03:19.43 | MentalPower | !api StartAuction |
03:19.43 | ThraeBot | MentalPower: StartAuction(1,1,120) - Start at 1 silver, buyout 1 silver, time 2 hours -- http://www.wowwiki.com/API_StartAuction |
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03:47.24 | mikma | oh how i love the new fast scanning of Auctioneer :) |
03:49.11 | Duman | huh.. that's weird... so "1" means 1 silver? can you not list something for 1 copper or something? |
03:49.22 | Duman | (for StartAuction()) |
03:50.15 | mikma | 001 is propably 1 copper |
03:52.16 | Taeri | 001 and 1 is more or less the same though afaik. |
03:52.53 | mikma | well 150 is 1 silver 50 copper |
03:53.21 | Taeri | yeah, but 001 and 1 is the same |
03:53.31 | Taeri | atleast in normal logic. |
03:54.53 | mikma | well go and test, tell us the results :) |
03:55.09 | Taeri | nah, I'm busy with my guild thingie |
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04:06.46 | Taeri | waahahaha, I has guildroster in my addon! ..now.. to format it nicely. :P |
04:09.27 | Rayne | oh god -_- |
04:09.35 | Rayne | Im leading a new group through Kara |
04:09.39 | Rayne | our tanks are not that geared |
04:09.49 | Rayne | weve one shotted most of the bosses, and now were on Prince |
04:09.50 | Rayne | -_- |
04:19.22 | Rayne | god damnit we wiped |
04:20.07 | dreamss | Prince is a huge gear check |
04:20.47 | Kelfarr | you should get on your tank then |
04:22.25 | Rayne | No its wierd |
04:22.51 | batrick | man not being able to post on the forums makes me QQ |
04:23.06 | Rayne | me and my wife BOTH pulled agro in the start of phase 3 and we had about 40K less threat then the tank. We both Soulshattered and then the shadow priests who DIED in phase 2 and got BRezzed got agro. |
04:23.57 | Rayne | priest* |
04:23.59 | Rayne | not priests |
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04:36.50 | Cairenn | Kittahz sez "I can has catnip", I sez "srsly!" |
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04:37.45 | gnorlish | rayne: there have been pre-existing issues with aggro on phase transitions on prince for as long as he's been in the game |
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04:38.07 | Thunder_Child | Cairenn, if in ~20 years thats out new language...i'm going to blame you |
04:38.14 | Thunder_Child | s/out/our/ |
04:38.26 | Cairenn | no |
04:38.35 | Vlet | How can I set font alignment in a frame? It seems to default to center |
04:38.45 | Thunder_Child | yes...it may note be true but i am going to blame you anyway |
04:38.49 | Cairenn | lol |
04:38.50 | Thunder_Child | not* |
04:38.55 | gnorlish | at one point if he transitioned while targeting someone for an ability the tank would end up getting enfeeble |
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05:03.30 | Hobinheim|work | hey question i'm inheriting someone else's mod what should i call the new mod |
05:03.41 | Hobinheim|work | i don't want to call it revival or reborn or something cliche like that |
05:03.47 | Rayne | the ImSoAwesomeMod? |
05:03.58 | Hobinheim|work | that's not descriptive :( |
05:04.05 | Rayne | Yes it is, its awesome! |
05:04.06 | Hobinheim|work | i was thinking some sort of adjective on the original mod name |
05:06.41 | MentalPower | fan update? |
05:06.46 | MentalPower | I've seen that a lot lately |
05:07.05 | Hobinheim|work | like ArcHUD Fan Update? |
05:07.11 | MentalPower | sure |
05:07.34 | Rayne | ARCHud has fans? <_< |
05:07.48 | MentalPower | ~lart Rayne |
05:07.48 | purl | crushes Rayne with a full height scsi disk |
05:08.05 | Hobinheim|work | is curse loading for you guys? |
05:08.08 | Hobinheim|work | i can't log in |
05:09.19 | Cairenn | nope, can't get to the site |
05:09.29 | Cairenn | can get to the main curse site, but not to the wow portal |
05:10.29 | Hobinheim|work | any ideas for a name change? |
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05:12.26 | Taeri | Hobinheim|work: what does the addon do? :P |
05:14.32 | Hobinheim|work | it's not a matter of what the addon does but what to call it |
05:14.34 | Cairenn | Hobinheim|work: if you are actually "inheriting" it, ie if the original author is passing the reins to you, then the sites should be willing to transfer ownership of the mod to you, if the original author sends the staff on the various sites a PM telling them that you are taking over |
05:14.38 | Hobinheim|work | it's extended questlog and necrosis |
05:14.50 | Cairenn | I know we do that on WoWI |
05:15.05 | Hobinheim|work | Cairenn, i figure it's just easier naming it something else, i only got blessinsgs from EQL |
05:15.19 | Hobinheim|work | necrosis was made by somefrench team and i dont'e ven know where their contact info is |
05:15.27 | Cairenn | then yeah, stick "fan update" on it or whatever |
05:15.30 | Cairenn | :) |
05:15.36 | dylanm | It's probably in France which is like far away |
05:15.39 | Hobinheim|work | going with $1 Bravo so far :( |
05:15.50 | Cairenn | that's pretty much the standard that most people do |
05:15.58 | Hobinheim|work | the funny thing is these both work out of the box, no errors, with a level 1 character |
05:16.12 | Hobinheim|work | the only thing i did was import them to a code repository and update the TOC |
05:17.01 | dylanm | Okay so maybe figuring out something to contribute would be the first thing to do. |
05:17.24 | Taeri | Well, the name of the addon, should somehow reflect what the addon does. Or atleast, what sort of addon it is. So it *is* a matter on what the addon does, if you want to name it so people will take a second look at it. |
05:17.31 | Taeri | in my opinion anyway. |
05:17.35 | Hobinheim|work | well i'm going to keep its original name |
05:17.48 | Hobinheim|work | i just wanted a modifier that didn't sound like Revival or Rebourn |
05:17.55 | Hobinheim|work | cuz those sound silly :) |
05:18.04 | Hobinheim|work | Extended QuestLog Part Deux |
05:18.04 | Taeri | Revisited! |
05:18.07 | Hobinheim|work | Necrosis Strikes Back |
05:18.19 | Hobinheim|work | sorry if it's french it should be Necrosis Part Deux |
05:18.19 | Cairenn | btw, nitpicking, but .... |
05:18.22 | Cairenn | (12:14:57 AM) Hobinheim|work: Cairenn, i figure it's just easier naming it something else, i only got blessinsgs from EQL |
05:18.22 | Cairenn | (12:15:11 AM) Hobinheim|work: necrosis was made by somefrench team and i dont'e ven know where their contact info is |
05:18.33 | Cairenn | then you aren't actually "inheriting" that one, are you? ;) |
05:18.37 | dylanm | Freedomcrosis |
05:18.44 | Hobinheim|work | no, but for warlocks everywhere it must be done |
05:19.01 | Hobinheim|work | it's like a drug for me |
05:19.07 | Hobinheim|work | i can't honestly play my lock without it maintained |
05:19.12 | Hobinheim|work | so i'm gonna be That Guy (tm) |
05:19.31 | Hobinheim|work | Forking then =) it was GPL'ed anyway |
05:19.40 | Cairenn | did you try sending a PM to the original author via one of the sites? |
05:19.49 | Cairenn | http://www.wowinterface.com/forums/member.php?userid=10911 |
05:20.06 | dylanm | I was going to point out the official forums but they've fallen into disrepair |
05:20.17 | Cairenn | may get you no where, but can't hurt to try |
05:20.22 | dylanm | The first topic is "sex large woman" |
05:20.46 | dylanm | With a bunch of links that I assume help you accomplish your goals in that direction. |
05:20.48 | Hobinheim|work | ugh .... so lazy |
05:20.55 | Hobinheim|work | isn't 10 months enough to qualify as dead |
05:21.26 | Cairenn | sure it is, but you should still try anyway - although the fact it's GPL'd helps |
05:21.47 | Hobinheim|work | ok you win i see an e-mail address |
05:21.50 | dylanm | Is it not working as it is? Haven't used it in some time. |
05:22.06 | Hobinheim|work | curse is up |
05:22.09 | Hobinheim|work | so, what will it be people |
05:22.19 | Hobinheim|work | Necrosis Second Edition? |
05:22.20 | dylanm | Seems like the Henge and Sphere addons kinda died... there was that LunarSphere business |
05:22.24 | Hobinheim|work | EQL with Kung Fu Grip? |
05:22.28 | dylanm | Gawd LunarSphere is so lols |
05:22.35 | Hobinheim|work | yeah i was gay for henge |
05:22.39 | Cairenn | fan update or continued, imo |
05:22.54 | Hobinheim|work | some classes lack spheres, which is weird |
05:23.03 | Hobinheim|work | i don't know much about warrior but don't they have weird class love also? |
05:23.45 | dylanm | class love? |
05:24.12 | Hobinheim|work | wait so what does lunarsphere do? |
05:24.19 | Hobinheim|work | it's a hyper generic sphere md? |
05:26.00 | Hobinheim|work | oh god it looks so ugly |
05:26.00 | dylanm | Hell if I know anymore. The whole thing smelled of ostentation. |
05:26.00 | Hobinheim|work | and certain people don' even like necrosis :( |
05:26.00 | Hobinheim|work | http://moongazeaddons.proboards79.com/index.cgi?board=lunarsphere&action=display&thread=1183066718 |
05:26.25 | dylanm | People coming into the wowace forums accusing the Sphere people of stealing and signing their posts "senior beta tester, sphere project" and the betas were called "stages" which is the kind of crap you can only do if you're Larry Wall. |
05:26.46 | Hobinheim|work | dylanm what do you know about larry wall ?? |
05:27.08 | Hobinheim|work | also, are there any good bind management mods besides bindpad |
05:27.27 | dylanm | I know that the perl 6 design docs he wrote were called "apocalypses." |
05:27.29 | Hobinheim|work | i basically want to have a bongos-like setup but i'm running out of action bar slots on my druid because of forms |
05:27.54 | dylanm | There's SpellBind but it's really not that much better... quserkey... |
05:28.06 | Iriel | Ahhh.. larry wall. |
05:28.20 | Hobinheim|work | is there a way to like, enumerate all of thebindings that exist for the entire keyboard |
05:28.36 | dylanm | Iriel: :D |
05:28.38 | Hobinheim|work | nice dude |
05:28.51 | Hobinheim|work | in syn #cobol it's all perl hate =( |
05:29.21 | Hobinheim|work | my plan was to have a bongos layout that loks like a keyboard |
05:29.26 | Hobinheim|work | and then you drag spells on it |
05:29.43 | Hobinheim|work | because what i really use bongos for is to make cooldown notifiers. like bars with cooldowns and range detectors |
05:29.51 | Hobinheim|work | any ideas? |
05:30.21 | Hobinheim|work | so i sorta want cooldown and keybinding managemnt, bongos can do both, but it shows its weakness as i approach 120 buttons |
05:30.27 | Hobinheim|work | cuz bindings don't REALLY need to take up space |
05:30.35 | Hobinheim|work | but bindpad is kinda ehhh? |
05:30.57 | dylanm | I can't even imagine having 120 buttons. |
05:31.03 | dylanm | But then again I roll with a priest and paladin. So. |
05:31.47 | dylanm | Tuller: Are you ever going to do the virutal button no-limit thingy? |
05:31.53 | dylanm | Er, virtual. |
05:32.02 | Tuller | maybe |
05:32.02 | Hobinheim|work | i like to have a realy large nubmer of stuff available to me w/o clicking |
05:32.13 | Tuller | the only reason I want to do it is to make profiles sync up better |
05:32.22 | Tuller | ie, profiles for specs and the like |
05:32.55 | dylanm | One thing I've noticed lately is that when you add or subtract bars the bindings go psycho kinda. Not really a big issue. |
05:33.19 | Hobinheim|work | bars from what |
05:33.23 | dylanm | But I always thought it had something to do with using the action ids. Might be wrong on this. |
05:34.11 | dylanm | I think the new version of trinity has an option to create bars that don't map to the blizzard 120... it looks wildly complicated but it might be worth looking into. |
05:34.31 | dylanm | For Hobinheim|work, I mean. |
05:35.20 | Hobinheim|work | the necrosis team has been notified :) |
05:36.00 | Hobinheim|work | well bongos is fine. because if i had keybindings arranged the way i want, my cooldown monitors couldn't be more than like 20 buttons |
05:36.02 | Tuller | dylanm: you do it by using spell/macro/item buttons :) |
05:36.25 | Hobinheim|work | it's just that using bongos AS binding management makes that number go way way up, and it's apparent when you hit the forms bars |
05:36.53 | Tuller | bindings are shared if you have your bars switch :P |
05:37.34 | Hobinheim|work | i kno |
05:38.03 | Hobinheim|work | i was just kinda concerned about keeping my forms bars free, i haven't really played a forms class so i dont' know if i'm freaking out prematurely |
05:39.55 | Hobinheim|work | are there any good cooldown monitoring type mods? |
05:40.12 | Hobinheim|work | i just use bongos to make a bar that sits in the center that has my racials w/ omni cc |
05:40.23 | Hobinheim|work | in a very flexbar sort of way |
05:40.40 | Tuller | well, there are cooldown bar type things |
05:41.32 | Hobinheim|work | like what? i'm definitely on the lookout |
05:42.52 | Tuller | I don't know the names :) |
05:42.58 | Tuller | I just know they exist :P |
05:43.59 | Hobinheim|work | curses! |
05:44.27 | Hobinheim|work | oh god i'm going to take a nap |
05:44.35 | Hobinheim|work | i can't bring myself to call it Necrosis Revival |
05:44.37 | Hobinheim|work | so insulting... |
05:44.41 | Hobinheim|work | lol |
05:44.53 | Hobinheim|work | (bravo was a dumb idea) |
05:45.42 | Taeri | Revisited! |
05:46.32 | malreth|afk | Hobinheim|work: i use hourglass2 for cooldown bars |
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05:47.39 | malreth|afk | it's on the wowace SVN... but it's in the branches dir, i think... hasn't been released |
05:50.41 | Cairenn | http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info7900-On-useCooldownNotifier.html |
05:50.41 | Cairenn | http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info6599-CooldownTimers.html |
05:50.41 | Cairenn | http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info6330-AnkhCooldownTimer.html |
05:53.41 | Taeri | I think my computer is telling me it doesn't like me |
05:55.43 | cladhaire | my computer is telling me that it doesn't like you |
05:55.52 | cladhaire | thinks |
05:55.56 | Taeri | :o |
05:56.18 | Taeri | but really, when I touch my computer sometimes, it seems to want to electrify me. :P |
05:57.26 | cladhaire | lol |
06:02.30 | MentalPower | lua> function a() return 101,102,103,104,105,106,107,108,109,110,111,112,113,114,115 end; local b=os.clock(); local _,var; for i = 1,10000000 do _,_,_,_,_,_,_,_,_,_,_,var = a(); end; print(os.clock()-b,var) |
06:02.35 | lua_bot | MentalPower: sandbox.lua:154: maximum execution time (5s) exceeded |
06:02.46 | MentalPower | lua> function a() return 101,102,103,104,105,106,107,108,109,110,111,112,113,114,115 end; local b=os.clock(); local _,var; for i = 1,10000 do _,_,_,_,_,_,_,_,_,_,_,var = a(); end; print(os.clock()-b,var) |
06:02.46 | lua_bot | MentalPower: 0.050000000000001, 112 |
06:02.54 | MentalPower | lua> function a() return 101,102,103,104,105,106,107,108,109,110,111,112,113,114,115 end; local b=os.clock(); local _,var; for i = 1,100000 do _,_,_,_,_,_,_,_,_,_,_,var = a(); end; print(os.clock()-b,var) |
06:02.55 | lua_bot | MentalPower: 0.42, 112 |
06:02.58 | MentalPower | lua> function a() return 101,102,103,104,105,106,107,108,109,110,111,112,113,114,115 end; local b=os.clock(); local _,var; for i = 1,1000000 do _,_,_,_,_,_,_,_,_,_,_,var = a(); end; print(os.clock()-b,var) |
06:03.03 | lua_bot | MentalPower: 4.08, 112 |
06:03.19 | Taeri | 0.o |
06:03.49 | MentalPower | lua> function a() return 101,102,103,104,105,106,107,108,109,110,111,112,113,114,115 end; local b=os.clock(); local _,var; local select=select; for i = 1,1000000 do var=select(12,a()); end; print(os.clock()-b,var) |
06:03.53 | lua_bot | MentalPower: 4.04, 112 |
06:05.54 | MentalPower | #luabot |
06:06.45 | Rayne | Anyone on here use Grid? |
06:06.52 | |Jelly| | FUCK YOU |
06:07.01 | Taeri | 0.o |
06:07.14 | |Jelly| | Night Clad |
06:07.20 | Rayne | <3 Jelly |
06:07.25 | clad|sleep | night! |
06:08.49 | Rayne | Seriously, mine looks terribad :( |
06:09.25 | JoshBorke | clad was up late... |
06:09.33 | Cairenn | so late it's early |
06:09.38 | |Jelly| | You face looks terribad. |
06:09.47 | Taeri | 7am ftw! |
06:10.04 | Corrodias | boy, this shadow priest priest feels weak compared to my warlock, now |
06:10.06 | Taeri | huggyness? :P |
06:10.15 | |Jelly| | Sounds good. |
06:10.20 | Cairenn | easy |Jelly|, I've currently got my own wrist brace on too =/ |
06:10.36 | |Jelly| | We wont talk about my hand. lol |
06:10.41 | Cairenn | speaking of which, have you gotten your hand .... >< |
06:10.47 | Cairenn | ... checked yet |
06:10.51 | Kelfarr | carpal tunnel |
06:11.16 | |Jelly| | Last I checked, it was Saturday. :P My doctor is open until Monday and I'm off on Tuesday. ;) |
06:11.27 | |Jelly| | Or rather, off Wednesday. |
06:11.43 | Cairenn | and there's no such thing as walk-in clinics or hospitals, right? |
06:11.50 | |Jelly| | Nope. |
06:12.03 | Cairenn | (with the hand that isn't in the brace) |
06:12.27 | Rayne | Well |
06:12.28 | Rayne | Jelly |
06:12.53 | Cairenn | you should have gone in the day of, but I've already yelled at you about this enough, so I'll just hush now |
06:13.01 | Rayne | is there a way to add bar textures to grid, and instead of the health deficet going from top to the bottom instead it goes from left to right? |
06:13.10 | |Jelly| | Yeah. You pretty much have yelled at me every day since it happened. :P |
06:13.28 | |Jelly| | If I ever used Grid, I might be able to answer that. :\ |
06:14.00 | |Jelly| | Hell. The only reason it's on my computer is because I was making a UI for Kam..but she ended up not using it anyway. lol |
06:14.16 | Rayne | -_- |
06:14.37 | |Jelly| | That actually happens a lot to me. :\ |
06:14.41 | Hobinheim|work | Cairenn, thanks for the recos |
06:14.59 | Cairenn | Hobinheim|work: welcome, hope one of them works for you |
06:15.28 | Cairenn | just what came up on a real quick search of "cooldown" |
06:15.39 | Hobinheim|work | i like how obnoxious omnicc is tho :) |
06:15.52 | Cairenn | may be more, database is actually big enough that I don't have the entire thing memorized any more |
06:15.58 | |Jelly| | OmniCC is obnoxious? |
06:15.59 | Hobinheim|work | maybe i will look into making a different binding mod |
06:16.06 | Hobinheim|work | yeah t's like BLINK BLINK |
06:16.12 | Hobinheim|work | it really let's you know |
06:16.22 | Hobinheim|work | (which i like in this case) |
06:16.22 | |Jelly| | ...it's a number counting down. lol |
06:16.31 | Hobinheim|work | it has the flash at the end |
06:16.41 | |Jelly| | roflamo |
06:17.21 | Hobinheim|work | I do not post "updates" to my addons that do nothing but change a single digit in the TOC file. My addons will be updated when there is actually something new/fixed/changed. The "Load out of date addons" check box in WoW exists for a reason. Use it. |
06:17.23 | Hobinheim|work | lol what a jerk |
06:17.27 | Hobinheim|work | i would never say that to my users |
06:17.31 | Hobinheim|work | lazy bastid |
06:17.42 | |Jelly| | I would. |
06:17.54 | Hobinheim|work | the line has been drawn, sir |
06:18.13 | |Jelly| | There's no need to update a number except to make lazy end users comfortable in not having to use the "Lod Out of Date Addons" box. :\ |
06:18.34 | Hobinheim|work | tsk tsk tsk |
06:19.00 | Kelfarr | I really don't know what to do about this boe epic I won, i am a mage and its an upgrade atm but i will be crafting spellfire robe so should I sell it on the AH even though I rolled need on it against a warlock and won or mail it to the warlock for free?? |
06:19.07 | Hobinheim|work | btw all i've thought of is tacking the number two on the mod in a diff language. so it doesn't sound as tacky as TWO! |
06:19.13 | Hobinheim|work | necrosis deux. necrosis dos |
06:20.31 | Cairenn | did the warlock need roll as well? |
06:23.04 | |Jelly| | The angel Jelly on your shoulder says to mail it to the warlock but the devil Jelly says to mail it to an alt and AH that bitch. |
06:23.11 | |Jelly| | Quite the paradox imo. :P |
06:24.13 | Rayne | crap |
06:24.20 | Rayne | I figured out the color problem I had... |
06:24.28 | Rayne | now I gotta fix the bar info -_- |
06:25.02 | |Jelly| | Or go back to Pitbull and tell the people that email you to QQMOAR |
06:25.18 | Rayne | you qq moar imo |
06:25.19 | Rayne | >:[ |
06:25.28 | |Jelly| | Oh, I plan on it. |
06:25.39 | Kelfarr | yes he rolled need as well caireen |
06:25.43 | Kelfarr | cairenn** |
06:25.49 | Kelfarr | but I won |
06:25.58 | Cairenn | and how soon will you be crafting the robe? |
06:26.02 | Kelfarr | but I dont even need it all I saw was epic cloth and I rolled it |
06:26.07 | Kelfarr | probably a week or more |
06:26.17 | Rayne | Kel do you know anything about Grid? |
06:26.20 | Kelfarr | whats that |
06:26.23 | Kelfarr | nope rayne sorry |
06:26.27 | |Jelly| | She'd mail it. |
06:26.32 | Cairenn | in a heartbeat |
06:26.37 | |Jelly| | She's all nice and shit. |
06:26.40 | Cairenn | but that's just me |
06:26.41 | |Jelly| | WE'RE MEN THOUGH! |
06:26.59 | Kelfarr | yeah well I really do need the gold and if I sell it can get enough gold to make the chest piece tomorrow |
06:27.27 | Kelfarr | ugh i am soo undecided |
06:27.52 | |Jelly| | Embrace your inner asshole, Kelfarr! :P |
06:28.13 | |Jelly| | Sorry...the devil jelly beat the angel jelly's ass. |
06:28.32 | Kelfarr | lol |
06:38.17 | JoshBorke | nn all |
06:39.00 | Cairenn | night JoshBorke |
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06:39.49 | Kelfarr | hmm I wonder if I should spec arcane so I can get my spell damage up |
06:45.34 | MentalPower | !api IsOutdoors |
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06:48.57 | MentalPower | !api IsOutdoors |
06:48.57 | ThraeBot | MentalPower: Could not find a relevant page. Perhaps you could be so kind as to create one? http://www.wowwiki.com/API_IsOutdoors |
06:54.09 | Kelfarr | !c us bronzebeard Kelfarr |
06:54.11 | ThraeBot | Kelfarr: Kelfarr, Level 70 Blood Elf Mage (10/48/3). 5993 HP; 8476 Mana; 134 mana regen; 108 spell crit; 15 spell hit; 539 +spell dmg/heal; 50 arcane dmg (589); 50 fire dmg (589); 4.98% dodge; 17 resilience;[[ TBR: 1090 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/263alr ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/2rajpz ][ Updated: Sun Dec 2 01:54:22 2007 EST ]] |
06:55.22 | malreth|afk | !c us silver hand malreth |
06:55.22 | ThraeBot | malreth|afk: malreth is not the character you are looking for! |
06:55.32 | malreth|afk | baaah! |
06:58.58 | Intangir | hey guys |
06:59.11 | Intangir | i am trying to change the size of the battlefieldPOI things |
06:59.13 | Intangir | in the minimap |
06:59.24 | Intangir | i can change them to be smaller |
06:59.30 | Intangir | but on many events blizz changes them back |
06:59.33 | Intangir | so i handle those same events |
06:59.44 | Intangir | but mine gets called FIRST.. i set it how i want it |
06:59.55 | Intangir | and blizz' get called 2nd, and changes them right back.. |
06:59.59 | Intangir | how can i have the last say on event handling? |
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07:15.37 | Taeri | stupid question of the day. How to I make a grey color with the rgb values in WoW? 0.o |
07:16.12 | Cairenn | ugh! 20-30 cm of snow mixed with ice pellets and freezing rain between now and monday night |
07:17.26 | Cairenn | http://www.december.com/html/spec/colorsafe.html |
07:19.23 | Vlet | How does one target a specific unit? |
07:23.01 | Vlet | Ahh, but it's protected |
07:31.37 | Corrodias | need a good female orc name... |
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07:40.53 | MentalPower | forc |
07:40.55 | MentalPower | :P |
07:41.55 | cogwheel | MentalPower: weren't you supposed to be gone for days? |
07:42.03 | MentalPower | yes, long story |
07:42.10 | cogwheel | kk |
07:42.13 | MentalPower | basically my trip got cut short |
07:43.23 | Corrodias | i hate hate hate this part of character creation: coming up with the right name |
07:44.37 | MentalPower | I usually just random thru and then modify a name I like |
07:45.45 | Corrodias | Korgana, sounds orclike i think |
07:45.56 | Corrodias | not bad... |
07:46.41 | Corrodias | i notice it's only one "sound change" away from my mage's name, Coriana |
07:47.57 | Mr_Rabies2 | i don't bother with making realistic sounding names anymore |
07:48.18 | Mr_Rabies2 | unless it's named after someone |
07:48.27 | Corrodias | i can't help it. i am too uncreative to come up with a name that's not realistic but is still good |
07:48.44 | Mr_Rabies2 | i.e. skwisgaar and tokiwartooth, or stevebuscemi |
07:49.29 | Mr_Rabies2 | Raybeez is my main, Yaranaika my highest level alt, and Seibar my second highest alt |
07:50.28 | Corrodias | ...yaranaika? *zip* |
07:51.32 | Mr_Rabies2 | (one of the several yaranaika faces goes here) |
07:54.33 | Cairenn | guys - what program(s) were used that successfully picked up the trojan that had been in UIC? |
07:54.58 | Corrodias | ugh, "shagya" is NOT the name i want |
07:55.05 | Cairenn | Corrodias: lol |
07:55.40 | cogwheel | my sister-in-law got me the austin powers box set for my bday >< |
07:55.57 | Taeri | also, interesting, my guildroster lists everyone except the guildleader 0.o |
07:56.21 | cogwheel | that reminds me... POLL: Is >< angry, "D'oh!" or XD |
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07:56.51 | Cairenn | angry/annoyed |
07:57.31 | cogwheel | my vote is somewhere between "d'oh" and XD |
07:57.58 | Corrodias | i vote between the first two |
07:58.08 | Corrodias | you're the one who kept linking that thread to us, aren't you? |
07:58.09 | cogwheel | >< is just a sideways X to me |
07:58.48 | cogwheel | in fact, the eyes in chatzilla's icon for XD look like >< :P |
07:59.16 | cogwheel | Cairenn: you'd have to ping Shirik and ... umm... |
07:59.30 | cogwheel | kaiden, i think... |
08:01.53 | Corrodias | Salkasa, that's also not bad |
08:02.09 | cogwheel | class/race? |
08:02.15 | Corrodias | female orc |
08:02.54 | cogwheel | meh... never really bothered with orc names |
08:03.20 | cogwheel | orcs and humans are so ordinary :P |
08:04.47 | Corrodias | *orcs are so sexy |
08:05.33 | cogwheel | too burly, imo |
08:05.50 | Corrodias | what do you like? ~elves~? |
08:05.57 | cogwheel | eew no |
08:06.06 | cogwheel | draenei & gnomes ;) |
08:06.06 | Corrodias | ...tauren? |
08:06.12 | cogwheel | seen the way gnomes dance? |
08:06.20 | Corrodias | i can't wait to see draenei death knights |
08:06.26 | Corrodias | goth goat chicks are totally up my alley |
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08:12.03 | bleeter | Cairenn: I beleive, but don't quote me, it was Kapersky |
08:12.27 | Cairenn | danke |
08:12.59 | bleeter | bitte |
08:14.12 | Corrodias | leinenkugel |
08:16.20 | Corrodias | you know, i chose "red" hair, but this looks more purple |
08:27.31 | Cairenn | okay, well, someone has the trojan, both mouse.dll and wzcsvbc.dll come up in their system32 folder, and the previous steps that others have used to remove it don't seem to be working for this person (or else they didn't apply the steps properly) - anyone feel like having a go at trying to help them out? |
08:27.32 | Thunder_Child | "(00:06:27) (Corrodias) goth goat chicks are totally up my alley" <-- "no words to describe....should of sent...a...psychiatrist" |
08:27.52 | Cairenn | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=3168363293&sid=1 |
08:35.17 | Corrodias | i am afraid that i very quickly get frustrated if i am not directly controlling their computer |
08:38.55 | MentalPower | Cairenn: could try house call |
08:39.02 | MentalPower | other than that, I'm out of ideas |
08:39.17 | MentalPower | http://housecall.trendmicro.com/ |
08:39.23 | MentalPower | anywho, I'm off to bed |
08:39.29 | MentalPower | 4:30am here |
08:39.30 | MentalPower | gnight al |
08:39.37 | MentalPower | gnight all* |
08:39.58 | wereHamster | http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v643/Dauk/Hal_v8.jpg - which addon is used for the clock and lag display? |
08:40.08 | Cairenn | night MentalPower|ZzZz |
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08:41.41 | art3mis | cairenn has a virus? |
08:42.10 | Cairenn | making damn sure we don't |
08:42.28 | Lonny | Hmm is there any difference between "self" and "this" ? I know what they mean and such, however I'm not sure where are they on the scope, I think that "self" is one of the arguments (if not the 1st) of the widget functions and for best practice I should pass it to my handlers to avoid the globals, what's with "this" ? say I got an Onload function and I pass "this" instead of "self" AddonName_OnLoad(this) ... |
08:43.14 | Corrodias | sell, i think "this" is an invention of WoW and is not normally part of Lua, or that's what i heard. and they don't necessarily mean the same thing. |
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08:44.43 | MentalPower|ZzZz | Lonny: when inside an event handler, self == this, self is passed as an arg and is a local, whereas this is a global. You should always use self in all circumstances. |
08:44.47 | Lonny | hmm |
08:45.12 | MentalPower|ZzZz | outside of an event handler they can be different, since self is a Lua facility for OOP |
08:45.51 | Thunder_Child | for some reason i find myself watching enter the dragon |
08:45.52 | MentalPower|ZzZz | ie someObject:someFuntion(...) == someObject.someFunction(someObject, ...) |
08:45.59 | Thunder_Child | for the fitst time |
08:46.37 | MentalPower|ZzZz | someObject = { someFunction = function(self, ...) end } |
08:46.48 | MentalPower|ZzZz | or alternatively |
08:47.22 | art3mis | anyone have the uic virus handy im curious about something |
08:47.25 | MentalPower|ZzZz | someObject = {} function someObject:someFunction(...) end <-- self is implicit |
08:47.40 | Lonny | ah I think I got it, pretty much like I thought though, thanks anyway for the clarfication |
08:47.47 | MentalPower|ZzZz | ~pil |
08:47.48 | purl | [pil] Programming in Lua, a book written by the authors of the Lua programming language. The first edition is available free online at http://www.lua.org/pil and covers Lua 5.0. The second edition is available in print from most online bookstores, and covers Lua 5.1. |
08:47.55 | art3mis | SportChick: this is the first time you've seen enter the dragon? |
08:48.00 | art3mis | wow |
08:48.04 | MentalPower|ZzZz | Lonny: ^^^^ I *strongly* suggest you read it ^^^^ |
08:48.09 | art3mis | you actually do live in a cave under a rock don't you |
08:48.13 | Lonny | I know the book :D |
08:48.39 | Thunder_Child | you just called me SportChick? |
08:48.41 | MentalPower|ZzZz | read it, its priceless |
08:48.48 | MentalPower|ZzZz | lol |
08:48.52 | art3mis | yeah stupid autocomplete ;P |
08:48.54 | MentalPower|ZzZz | anywho, really past my bedtime |
08:48.55 | Thunder_Child | how do you even mess the 2 up |
08:49.02 | art3mis | i typed tc |
08:49.02 | Lonny | Night :D |
08:49.03 | Thunder_Child | t vs s |
08:49.09 | art3mis | and it filled in the rest |
08:49.25 | Thunder_Child | bs |
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08:49.41 | Thunder_Child | or you have a very retarded autocomplete |
08:49.57 | art3mis | this is what i typed tc: this is the first time you've seen enter the dragon? |
08:50.09 | Thunder_Child | besides, you shouldnt ping our masters |
08:50.13 | Thunder_Child | yes |
08:50.15 | art3mis | it found the first instance of T and C together ;P |
08:50.32 | Thunder_Child | thats an odd autocomplete |
08:50.36 | Shadowed | whats wrong with like |
08:50.39 | Shadowed | Th<TAB> |
08:50.43 | Shadowed | like all the normal people use |
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08:51.06 | art3mis | because im not normal? |
08:51.11 | Shadowed | clearly |
08:51.13 | Thunder_Child | good point |
08:51.28 | art3mis | i rarely use tab for anything other than reply /msg's |
08:52.12 | Thunder_Child | anyway, it's an old movie...older than me |
08:52.20 | Thunder_Child | i dont usually see old movies |
08:52.22 | art3mis | <PROTECTED> |
08:52.35 | art3mis | i find it wierd that you never went through a kung fu movie pahse |
08:52.37 | art3mis | phase |
08:52.46 | Thunder_Child | not exactly |
08:53.26 | Thunder_Child | i went through a kung fu phase.... |
08:53.28 | Corrodias | hmm, it is true that the female orc spellcasting animations suck |
08:53.45 | Thunder_Child | i took it, i didnt watch it |
08:55.39 | art3mis | http://www.bbspot.com/News/2007/11/top-11-programming-love-life.html |
08:56.19 | art3mis | If you respond to the profile of all the girls dating sites who claim that they’ve done modeling work with polite inquiries as to which 3D packages they’ve used. |
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09:12.35 | Cairenn | A guy goes to see a doctor and when they get into the private room the doctor says to the patient, "What seems to be the problem?" |
09:12.35 | Cairenn | The patient answers, "You have to promise not to laugh." |
09:12.35 | Cairenn | The doctors said fine, and the patient pulls down his pants and the doctor tried not to laugh at his small penis. |
09:12.35 | Cairenn | The doctor managed to ask, "What's the problem?" |
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09:13.06 | Cairenn | The patient then said, "It's swollen." |
09:14.32 | Thunder_Child | trust Cairenn to make a penis joke |
09:14.35 | Corrodias | hahaha! but i'm falling asleep in my chair again. |
09:14.37 | Corrodias | time for bed. 'ni |
09:14.42 | Thunder_Child | night Corrodias |
09:14.47 | Cairenn | night Corrodias |
09:14.53 | Cairenn | Thunder_Child: blame google :p |
09:15.12 | Thunder_Child | i'm going to blame google for you posting a penis joke? |
09:15.26 | Cairenn | no, blame google for giving me the penis joke to post |
09:15.43 | Thunder_Child | ok, but i still blame you for posting it |
09:16.03 | Cairenn | I frequently post the jotd |
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09:20.54 | art3mis | http://weirdfacts.com/fun-facts/oxymoron-27.html |
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09:21.52 | bleeter | http://www.willitblend.com/videos.aspx?type=unsafe&video=bic |
09:22.25 | wereHamster | 'ethical hackers' that's not an oxymoron! |
09:23.08 | bleeter | yeah, that's a pretty stupid list |
09:24.20 | art3mis | # |
09:24.20 | art3mis | The Main Library at Indiana University sinks over an inch every year because when it was built, engineers failed to take into account the weight of all the books that would occupy the building. |
09:24.21 | art3mis | # |
09:24.22 | art3mis | yeah |
09:24.33 | art3mis | dry ice is "dry" because it doesnt technically melt |
09:24.44 | art3mis | the rest of the links are amusing though |
09:26.37 | art3mis | The Bible has been translated into Klingon. |
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09:27.44 | art3mis | Five Jell-O flavors that flopped: celery, coffee, cola, apple, and chocolate. |
09:28.32 | art3mis | purl, 111111111*111111111 |
09:28.33 | purl | 12345678987654320 |
09:30.11 | art3mis | The Pentagon, in Arlington, Virginia, has twice as many bathrooms as is necessary. When it was built in the 1940s, the state of Virginia still had segregation laws requiring separate toilet facilities for blacks and whites. |
09:32.23 | art3mis | Every 100g of Corn Flakes has 1 mg of fecal matter. |
09:32.53 | Mr_Rabies2 | art3mis, i hate to break it to you but a lot of those are false :/ |
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09:35.05 | Thunder_Child | yes well, fecal matter is a waste byproduct that has no nutritional value...so it could very well be true |
09:35.30 | Mr_Rabies2 | yeah, most of that stuff has an allowance |
09:35.44 | Mr_Rabies2 | because it's not harmful to the vast majority of people |
09:35.49 | Tierrie | i am pretty sure fecal matter is pretty nutritional to plants |
09:36.09 | Tierrie | who can't speak up for themselves or irc |
09:36.16 | Mr_Rabies2 | and it's not worth the money to remove it in such small amounts when it's perfectly safe |
09:36.25 | bleeter | Tierrie: triffids don't need to speak |
09:36.53 | Thunder_Child | "Common undigested foods found in human feces are seeds, nuts, corn and beans, mainly because of their high Dietary fiber content." corn flakes have much fiber |
09:37.23 | bleeter | 'and political speeches' |
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09:43.25 | art3mis | Rain contains vitamin B12. |
09:45.16 | art3mis | A bowl of lime Jell-O, when hooked up to an EEG machine, exhibited movement which is virtually identical to the brain waves of a healthy adult man or woman. |
09:45.21 | art3mis | ^^ true or not thats just funny |
09:45.50 | Cairenn | night guys |
09:46.15 | art3mis | In 1980, Namco released PAC-MAN, the most popular video game (or arcade game) of all time. The original name was going to be PUCK MAN, but executives saw the potential for vandals to scratch out part of the P in the games marquee and labeling. |
09:46.17 | art3mis | night dollface |
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09:47.26 | Thunder_Child | *snicker* @ art3mis's comment |
09:48.34 | Thunder_Child | *sigh* why do movies always have standard guards guarding a place when they have the world best of the best |
09:48.42 | Thunder_Child | on the inside |
09:48.53 | testleK | lol |
09:49.26 | Thunder_Child | it's like guarding convicts with kindergardners |
09:49.54 | testleK | because it makes movies more interesting? |
09:50.14 | testleK | Put the unskilled guards on crappy outdoor duty while the skilled ones get tv? |
09:50.28 | wereHamster | jack bauer has to have a chance to stop them!! |
09:50.39 | Thunder_Child | ...i hate you all |
09:50.52 | testleK | lol |
09:54.17 | art3mis | A temperature of 70 million degrees Celsius was generated at Princeton University in 1978. This was during a fusionism experiment and is the highest man-made temperature ever. |
09:54.52 | art3mis | "these are old drunken men who kow where they are and DO care" "what where am i?" "take this man to cell #2 and give him a drink!" |
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11:52.41 | Saeris | Anyone know whether LoadAddOn() returns before loading saved variables for the given addon? |
11:53.18 | cladhaire | no |
11:53.28 | cladhaire | it doesn't return until after ADDON_LOADED is fired imo |
11:53.32 | cladhaire | testing this would be simple |
11:53.41 | Saeris | I'll check it to be sure. Thanks. |
11:56.06 | Saeris | Yup, doesn't return until the event fires. Thanks again. |
11:57.54 | bleeter | er.. wombat |
11:57.58 | bleeter | ~fail bleeter |
11:57.59 | purl | bleeter: Fail. |
11:58.38 | bleeter | weirdo |
11:59.02 | cladhaire | you're the weirdo ;-) |
11:59.03 | bleeter | and I mean that in a friendly way, like Gonzo from the Muppets is a weirdo |
11:59.08 | bleeter | I just hope you don't have his nose |
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12:05.13 | bleeter | cladhaire: actually, I take that back.. weirdos are crafters who list their stuff under vendor price, then msg me asking if I want more when I buy all 10+ items out on the AH :/ |
12:05.47 | cladhaire | lol |
12:06.29 | art3mis | anyone know of any vnc server push clicent styles like networkstreaming? |
12:06.56 | bleeter | not off the top of my head, soz |
12:06.58 | bleeter | gnight all |
12:07.14 | art3mis | so that you've got a server and the clients get installed on the machines and maintain the routing allowing you to dynamically install em so you go to the "server" and can conenct to the clients without having to set open ports n stuff? |
12:07.26 | art3mis | lates bleeter |
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13:02.50 | sioraiocht | Cairenn|afk: you there? |
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13:25.06 | sioraiocht | wow so quiet when all the north americans are asleep |
13:26.15 | wereHamster | south americans are asleep, too! |
13:26.42 | Wobin | I totally need to be asleep |
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13:27.48 | sioraiocht_ | are there many south americans in this community? |
13:28.01 | Elkano | well, only proofs that europeans do less useless chatter |
13:28.39 | amro | is there a list of all templates somewhere? |
13:30.21 | Elkano | what templates? |
13:31.25 | Kaso | i assume he means all the virtual frames we can inherit from, if so im not sure anyone has ever compiled a list, but theyre all there in the framexml |
13:39.50 | Elkano | well, in that case, I would look at wowwiki... don't think there is another place more likely to have one |
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14:25.00 | Saint-N | god dammit i hate the cleaning staff in this office |
14:25.37 | Saint-N | left a note nicely asking them to stay out of the room since they seem clueless of whats to be kept and the first 2 times they cleaned they threw away 3 waybills 2 receipts and 4 invoices |
14:25.49 | Saint-N | came in today to discover they cant fucking read either |
14:26.14 | Lukian | maybe they aren't English speaking :D |
14:26.41 | Saint-N | monitoers are unplugged and moved my keyboard and mouse are moved and my cds that i had sorted into 3 seperate piles so i could label them were all piled together |
14:27.04 | malreth | the policy at UT Austin is all cleaning staff explicitly ignore the contents of desks |
14:27.15 | Saint-N | my random bitys of yellow stickie notes with phone numbers and stuff are gone |
14:27.26 | malreth | in fact, they only come in and empty out wastebaskets... if it's not in a bit, it stays |
14:27.35 | amro | Saint-N: did you try mousetraps? |
14:28.13 | Saint-N | nope but i know what day it is and im gonna kill him if he comes in next week |
14:28.41 | Saint-N | there's a big sign on the door "Dear cleaning staff DO NOT CLEAN THIS ROOM, if it's LOCKED STAY OUT" |
14:28.46 | Saint-N | and it was |
14:29.46 | Saint-N | needless to say im a tad pissed off |
14:30.46 | wereHamster | Saint-N, change locks? |
14:30.49 | Saint-N | i mean if he cant read english, what in gods name makes him think he should decide what i wanna keep and what i dont |
14:30.57 | wereHamster | so they can't get in |
14:31.07 | Saint-N | nah im just gonna find out who the cleaning company is and complain to my landlord |
14:31.14 | Saint-N | and then complain to the company |
14:31.37 | Saint-N | and tell them that should they come in here again i'll be billing them for all the time it takes me to figure out what chuckle fuck did |
14:32.04 | Saint-N | and that i wont be paying my rent until it's resolved as i run a consulting business and i cant have random recipts just disappearing |
14:32.20 | Saint-N | or friggin weighbills with my billing and cc info on it being "thrown out" |
14:34.52 | Saint-N | but some good news today i managed to find an opensource push clint vnc repeater thingy |
14:34.56 | Saint-N | client |
14:34.59 | Saint-N | so thats good |
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16:10.49 | Hobinheim|work | does the folder name have to be the same as the name of the TOC file? |
16:10.52 | Hobinheim|work | also, is it no spaces? |
16:11.54 | wereHamster | same name, yes |
16:12.06 | malreth | spaces should be fine |
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16:12.21 | wereHamster | spaces, I don't know, but special characters are allowed |
16:13.05 | wereHamster | .. like, some addons use a '!!!' prefix to make sure they are loaded as the first addons |
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16:18.08 | Kaso | #Title: field of the TOC does not have to match folder/tocfilename though |
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16:29.42 | Kaso | Wobwor1, you there? |
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17:00.37 | Saint-N | well thts kind of neat |
17:00.44 | |Jelly| | What is? |
17:00.50 | Saint-N | i found the software that networkstreaming rebrands and uses |
17:01.11 | |Jelly| | hmm |
17:01.27 | Saint-N | or at least a derivative of it |
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17:05.11 | cladhaire | ~seen cide |
17:05.19 | purl | cide is currently on #wowi-lounge (1h 11m 40s), last said: 'on gruul in shitty gear, however, you're screwed as a shadow priest'. |
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17:40.12 | Thunder_Child | at what point does the wow app take control of the addons? |
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17:42.58 | malreth | when you choose a character and start loading the world... sometime during when the progress bar is filling up, addon code is loaded and executed |
17:43.39 | malreth | but "take control" is a bit vague... what are you trying to do? |
17:43.39 | zenzelezz | <No Seatbelts in Sparta> |
17:43.57 | Thunder_Child | i want to know at what point updating them has no effect |
17:43.58 | zenzelezz | seems like the only time people are creative in WoW is for guild names |
17:44.33 | malreth | updating .toc data or .lua code? |
17:44.56 | Thunder_Child | either |
17:45.05 | Thunder_Child | though more lua than toc i think |
17:45.11 | malreth | .toc data -- as soon as you run wow.exe |
17:45.25 | Thunder_Child | ok |
17:45.28 | malreth | .lua -- you can reload the ui at any time after entering the world |
17:45.36 | Rayne | The Mask is on |
17:45.40 | Rayne | I love this movie so much |
17:45.51 | malreth | .lua code isn't parsed and run until the world loading progress bar is drawn |
17:46.01 | malreth | so you could modify your .lua code up until then |
17:46.17 | malreth | after that, just reload to get new changes |
17:46.53 | Thunder_Child | k, thanks |
17:47.17 | MentalPower | lua and xml code is executed in rough alphabetical order (barring dependencies) after the game's models and textures are loaded, roughly %50 into the loading bar |
17:47.58 | Thunder_Child | which is why 50% into the loading bar, my bar crawls |
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18:05.36 | malreth | yay... we got an induction heater to make hotpot... |
18:05.40 | malreth | that's the good news |
18:05.52 | malreth | bad news is the instructions and buttons are all in japanese |
18:06.01 | malreth | and not the easy kind of japanese, either |
18:06.18 | malreth | i figured out which button controls the timer... but i still can't turn the thing on |
18:07.32 | sioraiocht | what is the easy kind of japanese, imo? |
18:07.55 | zenzelezz | we can't know what's the easy kind in your opinion |
18:08.22 | Cide | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=3168513659&sid=1 |
18:08.33 | malreth | i can read the things that say, "HAPPY TEST" and "WE HAVE PROMOTION" |
18:08.37 | malreth | that kind of japanese |
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18:09.00 | zenzelezz | Cide: uh oh |
18:09.21 | Kaso | i think that they missed a huge optunity to name the new company "Actiblizzion" |
18:09.50 | malreth | oh... the trolls will be all over the forums... |
18:12.04 | Rayne | "A: This will not impact Blizzard’s games. We remain committed to providing the same high-quality game content and support that we always have. Development on Wrath of the Lich King and StarCraft II, as well as on our unannounced games, is continuing as normal. " |
18:12.06 | Rayne | theres a lie |
18:12.22 | zenzelezz | how so? |
18:12.32 | Rayne | Vivendi will ruin SC2 :/ |
18:12.42 | wereHamster | how so? |
18:12.55 | Rayne | Theyre a terrible company. |
18:14.17 | Thunder_Child | but according to this vivendi already owns them |
18:14.21 | Cide | you do realize that that would've happened without the merge too, according to you? |
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18:15.03 | malreth | Vivendi's been distributing WoW for years now |
18:15.17 | malreth | ever since like forever |
18:15.28 | Thunder_Child | yes....indeed, forever |
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18:19.33 | amro | as long as they don't add an activision intro movie, I'm cool with it |
18:19.39 | amro | I hate that thing |
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18:32.40 | Saint-N | <PROTECTED> |
18:32.40 | Saint-N | <PROTECTED> |
18:32.40 | Saint-N | It'll lend activision some much needed credibility. |
18:32.50 | Saint-N | that response rules |
18:34.54 | zenzelezz | lol |
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18:38.01 | Saint-N | Does WoW's 'Brewfest' event encourage RL drinking? |
18:38.01 | Saint-N | No more so than they encourage you to slaughter random strangers and root through their pockets. |
18:42.25 | Cairenn | righteous fury belongs to which class? |
18:42.41 | Saint-N | pally |
18:43.06 | Cairenn | that's what I thought, thanks |
18:49.37 | zenzelezz | it never stops hurting inside to see guilds called "<some nationality> Elite Force" |
18:50.54 | Mr_Rabies2 | that's against ToS on the us side of things if i recall |
18:58.15 | MentalPower | !api CreateTexture |
18:58.16 | ThraeBot | MentalPower: Could not find a relevant page. Perhaps you could be so kind as to create one? http://www.wowwiki.com/API_CreateTexture |
19:02.11 | foxlit | probably region based |
19:02.19 | foxlit | !api Frame CreateTexture |
19:02.49 | MentalPower | yeah I know |
19:02.53 | MentalPower | !help |
19:03.13 | foxlit | Hm, no, you were right |
19:03.18 | foxlit | Bot is 1. frozen 2. wrong |
19:03.23 | foxlit | http://www.wowwiki.com/API_CreateFrame |
19:03.29 | foxlit | gr |
19:03.37 | MentalPower | createtexture |
19:03.41 | MentalPower | not createframe |
19:03.42 | foxlit | yeah, obviously |
19:03.52 | foxlit | looked similar in search results :) |
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19:36.42 | Cairenn | http://www.theweathernetwork.com/weather/caon0332/?ref=wxeyecitypage - "From Sunday Evening to Monday Afternoon we expect 30-40cm of snow." |
19:38.43 | zenzelezz | no like snow? |
19:39.17 | wereHamster | I like snow, I wish we had some here :) |
19:39.29 | nevcairiel | i like snow too, but we rarely get any |
19:39.51 | Pandya | I want snow :( |
19:40.45 | zenzelezz | damn you Cairenn, you're much too slow... all these random people are ruining the dirty remarks I had lined up |
19:41.05 | Cairenn | sorry, rather distracted with other stuff atm |
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19:58.19 | Corrodias | you know what's wrong with shatt? its colors are so gloomy |
19:58.51 | zenzelezz | it's too friendly, don't like having both factions be such good friends in one single area but nowhere else |
19:58.54 | Corrodias | it's foggy, with dirty brown and dark green |
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20:01.21 | Gngsk | zenzelezz, can't help but be friendly with such a large lightbulb in the middle of the city |
20:01.30 | zenzelezz | lol |
20:04.51 | bleeter | mmm, activision blizzard eh |
20:04.59 | Cide | http://store.valvesoftware.com/img/productpage/getthegear/Zoom_ApLabsHolidayCard.jpg |
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20:18.41 | art3mis | http://www.technosphere.game-host.org:44820/cgi-bin/events.exe?id=3190412 |
20:19.46 | wereHamster | Size 1.56 ms wtw? size in seconds? |
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20:21.22 | art3mis | yes |
20:21.24 | art3mis | shrug |
20:21.42 | art3mis | its kinna neat you create aminals and they roam about autonamously |
20:21.51 | art3mis | feeding and breeding |
20:22.05 | art3mis | would have been more fun if it was "create a zombie" |
20:22.12 | art3mis | but meh |
20:29.55 | bleeter | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=3168513744&postId=31681001215&sid=1#0 |
20:30.11 | bleeter | "How is the merger gunna stop trojans from fan sites?" |
20:33.16 | Cairenn | please don't go there |
20:35.44 | bleeter | I didn't... I'd be lieing if I said I wasn't tempted just a li'l bit ;)... but I didn't |
20:36.56 | bleeter | Cairenn: my official response to the announcements was http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=3168513654&postId=31681001681&sid=1#183 ;) |
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20:41.47 | seebs | I am running into an erratic problem with FuBar, which I've found a couple of references to online, but no solutions for. |
20:42.20 | seebs | The problem is that FuBar_ClockFu sometimes, but not other times, fails because it can't specify a tooltip type of Tablet-2.0, because Tablet-2.0 is not loaded... But it's present and I can't see why it wouldn't load. |
20:42.40 | seebs | Anyone understand the dynamic loading stuff well enough to give me a tip or two? |
20:42.59 | seebs | In particular, I observe that it works fine on a Mac, but not under Linux -- possibly an issue with case-sensitive filesystem? |
20:44.49 | zenzelezz | if it was that then I'd find it weird that it works sometimes... but could be |
20:45.23 | seebs | I can't find anything obvious to explain it, but it seems to always work on the Mac. It worked on my Linux box for a while, then one day I relogged and it stopped... It's very confusing. |
20:50.24 | seebs | Hmm. There's a copy of Tablet-2.0 in flagRSP2, which was emitting frameXML errors due to specifying OnClick in a frame type that doesn't have an OnClick script. I wonder whether that's contributing to load failures... |
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20:58.58 | Corrodias | having a hard time choosing between orc and undead for warlock. it has to be female in either case because i prefer those models for warlock |
20:59.31 | Shadowed | BE |
20:59.32 | Shadowed | clearly |
21:00.29 | Mr_Rabies2 | orc females don't exist |
21:00.32 | Corrodias | i'm not a fan of their racial abilities |
21:00.45 | Mr_Rabies2 | and blood elf males don't exist |
21:01.09 | Corrodias | my priest is a BE male, but i feel gimped compared to undead priests, who get an extra DoT |
21:01.26 | seebs | I went with orc because the biggest problem I usually have is voidy losing aggro, and anything that helps his damage can only help me. :) |
21:01.45 | Mr_Rabies2 | orcs make great locks |
21:01.48 | Corrodias | the problem with the female orc is that the casting animations are HORRIBLE |
21:01.49 | Mr_Rabies2 | but not females |
21:01.49 | Mr_Rabies2 | ugh |
21:02.04 | Corrodias | they make great warriors and rogues, i think, but those are the two classes i'm least likely to ever play |
21:02.11 | Mr_Rabies2 | the problem with the female orc is they're ugly as hell |
21:02.25 | Corrodias | says the night elf |
21:08.33 | Pandya | night elfs are alright |
21:08.38 | Pandya | you just have to paperbag them |
21:08.40 | Corrodias | male night elf |
21:08.49 | Pandya | I wouldn't hit a male night elf anyways |
21:08.58 | Corrodias | i'd hit one with a crowbar |
21:09.03 | Pandya | oh that, yeah |
21:12.33 | Corrodias | they really ought to allow a single apostrophe (') in names, since npc names often have them |
21:18.12 | amro | do you really want to see Leg'olas? |
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21:20.00 | reqol | I'm looking for a good editor to use, is scite lua my best bet? it doesn't look as though it's been updated for quite some time, and there have been plenty of changes so that the calltips might not all be accurate. |
21:20.12 | Thunder_Child | edit what? lua? |
21:21.01 | reqol | yeah |
21:21.12 | reqol | for interface scripting |
21:21.22 | Pandya | notepad? |
21:21.23 | Thunder_Child | personally i use Notepad++ but i'm not a hard core coder |
21:21.42 | amro | reqol: scite is great for that, I have installed just for lua =) |
21:21.52 | foxlit | notepad. |
21:21.57 | reqol | I have notepad++ as well |
21:22.06 | reqol | I like it for java, but I'm not sure it'll suit my needs for lua |
21:22.08 | foxlit | scite and scite-derived implementation of collapsing functions bugs me |
21:22.22 | wereHamster | I use cat+sed!! I am teh win!!1!1 |
21:26.23 | Riffage | eclipse > * |
21:26.23 | Riffage | ;P |
21:27.02 | reqol | eclipse is too bloated for smaller applications, though it is useful when they begin to get larger and you need to manage many different classes |
21:27.38 | Riffage | i use eclipse for everything, LUA, PHP, Ruby, SQL, Python |
21:27.39 | krka | Riffage: Lua is not an acronym. It is a portuguese word that means moon. |
21:27.41 | Corrodias | netbeans is nice... |
21:27.52 | Riffage | only thing I cant use it for I use Visual Studio |
21:31.22 | amro | I use kate for everything except lua, I use scite for that since kate's lua highlighting sucks and I'm too lazy to fix it |
21:32.41 | Corrodias | the orcs' lack of wrists is troubling |
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21:35.09 | ambethia | greetings |
21:35.24 | Corrodias | yo |
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21:36.16 | rtharper | Riffage: eclipse < emacs |
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21:40.27 | Arrowmaster | reqol: umm scite was updated like end of november |
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21:55.32 | Thunder_Child | interesting stuff |
21:55.33 | Thunder_Child | "The deal will work by Blizzard investing $2 billion into Activision Blizzard and Activision will invest a lowly $1 billion. The CEO of the new company will be the current CEo of Avtivision, Bobby Kotick. However French mega company Vivendi Universal the owner of Blizzard wil remain the biggest shareholder in the company, retaining 52% of all the shares." |
21:56.48 | bleeter | sounds almost like yer typical buyout-merger-when-it's-not-a-buyouy-merger |
21:57.13 | Thunder_Child | at least we can now buy stock in the company |
21:57.22 | bleeter | Company A puts more money in than Company B, Company B gets more seats on the board |
21:57.25 | wereHamster | are you planing to? |
21:57.35 | Thunder_Child | why not? |
21:57.37 | bleeter | well, I'd be interested |
21:57.43 | bleeter | we could then ask questions at AGMs |
21:57.49 | bleeter | 'wtf linux port of WoW mofos!' |
21:57.56 | wereHamster | ~agm |
21:57.57 | purl | single- and multi-word anagram generator. URL: http://users.gtn.net/fraserm/anagrams.html |
21:58.03 | bleeter | annual general meeting |
22:01.45 | Thunder_Child | http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/programmes/click_online/7120845.stm |
22:02.02 | Thunder_Child | along with a video http://gizmodo.com/gadgets/clips/the-pirate-bays-next-p2p-protocol-328935.php |
22:04.11 | Thunder_Child | ..."That's right! In fact, most of the Internet still runs using the original Al-Gore-rithms...".... |
22:04.30 | Pandya | omg |
22:04.33 | Pandya | death star fractal |
22:04.33 | bleeter | man, if I had ops, I'd be k-lining you now :P |
22:04.34 | Pandya | http://gallery.pandaria.co.uk/v/articles/fractals/23.jpg.html?g2_imageViewsIndex=1 |
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22:08.07 | ScytheBlade1 | Does anyone still have the UICentral trojan or a computer that was infected with it available? |
22:08.25 | ScytheBlade1 | I just found *another* program not mentioned in any posts I've seen on the matter, recreating the DLLs |
22:08.28 | Cairenn | http://www.wowinterface.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=13868 |
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22:08.40 | Cairenn | funny you bring it up just then ScytheBlade1 |
22:08.49 | Cairenn | we've discovered it on WoWI as well :( |
22:09.00 | ScytheBlade1 | Nope, not listed. |
22:09.08 | ScytheBlade1 | I've got sysstem32\21.exe |
22:09.56 | ScytheBlade1 | I do have printfpool.exe though |
22:10.45 | ScytheBlade1 | *system32 |
22:12.01 | reqol | can you fire trade API without button presses? i want to set up a way to trade my friend stuff to DE while he's afk |
22:12.19 | bleeter | Cairenn: might I suggest a WoWI policy: no .exe's that you can't build yourselves from source code using the mingw system under linux ;) |
22:12.53 | ScytheBlade1 | Here's a better policy: no .exe's period unless verified by you personally that you know the person :P |
22:13.00 | wereHamster | <PROTECTED> |
22:13.10 | Cairenn | you have NO idea how upset I am right now, you'll forgive me if I'm not in much of a joking mood |
22:13.12 | wereHamster | from the wowi post |
22:13.18 | zenzelezz | I'm confused, were these .exes in approved mods or in files sneaked in somehow? |
22:13.41 | Cairenn | hacked one of our servers :( |
22:13.51 | ScytheBlade1 | Cairenn: oh, heh, believe me, I know what that's like |
22:14.06 | wereHamster | wasn't the problem that the exe was modified on the server? |
22:14.23 | zenzelezz | reqol: I'm not sure, but I don't think you can |
22:15.04 | wereHamster | ... because in that case having access to the source won't help |
22:15.08 | zenzelezz | actually, I may be wrong, the wiki doesn't seem to say they're protected |
22:15.29 | zenzelezz | may still require a hardware event, can't test right now |
22:15.37 | reqol | well |
22:15.43 | reqol | they could be used for some fairly malicious things if not |
22:15.48 | reqol | which is why Id guess not |
22:16.05 | reqol | though my intents are not malicious, some people's can be |
22:16.13 | ScytheBlade1 | Cairenn: you should add "sc delete printfpool" to the thread you linked me earlier. It adds it's own service, and that command is the proper way of removing the service from the system |
22:16.32 | ScytheBlade1 | Err, I should be clear. That's a command to run at cmd.exe or the run box. |
22:17.28 | zenzelezz | reqol: I'm not usually the best person to listen to when it comes to code :-p I think you can use the functions from mods, but don't know how many/how or only in response to hardware events... should be easy enough to test |
22:17.44 | bleeter | Cairenn: I wasn't joking, and I'm sorry if you took offence. We, at AuctioneerAddon.com, take our SVN source, and build our Win32 .exe's under MinGW. Users are free to do the same and are more than free to compare our downloadable .exe to one they built themselves. Programs such as Pidgin and Guifications use the exact same method. |
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22:18.16 | bleeter | of course, that don't help much if the fileserver's comprimised |
22:18.30 | bleeter | false sense of security and all |
22:18.34 | bleeter | ~hug Cairenn |
22:18.34 | purl | ACTION jumps into Cairenn's lap and huggles and *hugs* Cairenn |
22:18.46 | Cairenn | ScytheBlade1: so I need to put "delete them by using cmd.exe or the run box and typing in "sc delete [filename]" " |
22:19.11 | zenzelezz | would take a bit extra processing, but you could keep a database of md5sums (or something) generated at approval, and verify on the server before letting people download |
22:19.32 | ScytheBlade1 | Cairenn: users should delete the file as you specify, then reboot and run that command (or windows will continue trying to start a server that lacks an executable) |
22:19.32 | Cairenn | zenzelezz: that's what we've actually been discussing putting in place |
22:19.41 | bleeter | don't use md5, use sha2 |
22:19.48 | bleeter | er.. 256.. or whatever it is |
22:19.51 | ScytheBlade1 | 256 |
22:20.00 | bleeter | yes, sha256.. thx :) |
22:20.02 | ScytheBlade1 | *service |
22:20.04 | zenzelezz | whatever works best of course, I'm not knowledgeable about safe checksums |
22:20.05 | ScytheBlade1 | Not server |
22:20.08 | ScytheBlade1 | </3 this keyboard |
22:20.15 | wereHamster | use both md5 _and_ sha |
22:20.35 | wereHamster | or a third hash algo |
22:21.04 | nevcairiel | cogwheel: just have to say it, <3 MacroSequence |
22:21.09 | Cairenn | (5:14:03 PM) dolby-wowi: if any one wants the infected file let me know |
22:21.09 | Cairenn | (5:14:22 PM) Cairenn: scythe was just asking for it in the lounge |
22:21.09 | Cairenn | (5:16:58 PM) dolby-wowi: ok 1 sec will make a link |
22:21.09 | Cairenn | (5:19:57 PM) dolby-wowi: fs2.wowinterface.com/Sewell_UI_040.ex_infected |
22:21.09 | Cairenn | (5:20:02 PM) dolby-wowi: rename to .exe |
22:21.19 | Cairenn | WARNING WARNING WARNING |
22:21.20 | ScytheBlade1 | ty |
22:21.33 | Cairenn | but, there it is guys, if you want to play with it |
22:21.33 | cogwheel | nevcairiel: \o/ |
22:22.28 | Corrodias | what's this, a new compilation? *download, run* OMG WHAT HAVE YOU DONE |
22:22.29 | Beladona | be nice |
22:22.40 | ScytheBlade1 | To be honest, I didn't notice the trojan was still there until I fired up WoW and logged in with process explorer next to me. Suddenly I noticed the DLL was resident and started looking again |
22:22.41 | amro | ZOMG trojan on WoWI!! |
22:22.49 | cogwheel | Ok... for the record, the new engineering mounts are the Coolest. Mounts. Evar |
22:22.51 | ScytheBlade1 | Good thing I have a second computer to change my password on, heh (this one) |
22:25.03 | cogwheel | It's a conspiracy... you guys put the trojan there so you can show just how good a job you do at handling the situation imo |
22:25.08 | cogwheel | :P |
22:25.13 | cladhaire | hah |
22:27.17 | Cairenn | I don't know that we've handled the situation well, but I don't know how else we could have handled it |
22:27.30 | zenzelezz | hm, Kaspersky doesn't seem to recognize it as a dangerous object... wonder if they'd add it |
22:27.52 | cogwheel | > wowui... 'nuff said |
22:28.09 | ScytheBlade1 | What cog said. Degrees of relativity. |
22:28.19 | ScytheBlade1 | "You don't have to run faster than the bear, just faster than the slowest person" |
22:28.42 | Corrodias | this is strange, WoW is not saving any savedvariables for this character, i think |
22:29.50 | CaptainOblivious | <N: NickServ> This nickname is owned by someone else |
22:29.52 | CaptainOblivious | :( |
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22:30.46 | jesus | figures |
22:31.05 | ScytheBlade1 | Cairenn: fyi, I simply replied to that thread with the "sc delete printfpool" thing. So no worries about edits. |
22:31.15 | Cairenn | yeah, saw that, thank you |
22:32.04 | ScytheBlade1 | The service definition by itself is inert and harmless, but there's no point in keeping it around and spamming the system logs with "service failed to start" |
22:32.29 | Cairenn | *nod* |
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22:32.46 | Cairenn | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=3168484081&sid=1 (copy of the same post, on the Blizz forum) |
22:33.30 | Cairenn | thanks |
22:33.43 | ScytheBlade1 | Er |
22:33.54 | ScytheBlade1 | Assuming I can remember the password that I changed it to |
22:33.58 | ScytheBlade1 | Stupid length limits |
22:34.01 | MentalPower | lol |
22:34.12 | ScytheBlade1 | Ha, got it |
22:34.13 | Cairenn | now I just wait for someone to come along going "well, if you knew at 5 this morning, why'd it take you so long to post about it" |
22:34.27 | Cidan_ | If you were GAYYY |
22:34.31 | Cidan_ | I'd shout, HORRAAYYYYYYYYYY |
22:35.09 | Cidan | Avenue Q is the best MFing show ever. |
22:35.35 | Iriel | Aye |
22:35.39 | Iriel | We enjoyed it a lot |
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22:37.17 | Cidan | I went to the show here at the National Theater in DC today |
22:37.26 | Cidan | so... bleedin'... funny. |
22:37.28 | Antiarc | Ouch, Cairenn |
22:37.33 | Antiarc | Good on you for being proactive though |
22:37.34 | ScytheBlade1 | Posted |
22:37.36 | ScytheBlade1 | and afk for a few |
22:37.37 | Cairenn | yeah :( |
22:37.37 | bleeter | Cairenn: I hate to tell you guys, but clamav found it infected |
22:37.39 | Kaso | reqol, im not sure if you got a complete anwser to your auto-trading questiong but a fair few patches ago they made those functions hardware event only to kill off addons like waterboy et al. |
22:37.46 | bleeter | clamscan Sewell_UI_040.ex_infected |
22:37.46 | bleeter | Sewell_UI_040.ex_infected: Trojan.Delf-2177 FOUND |
22:37.50 | Cidan | er... |
22:37.52 | Cairenn | we know |
22:37.54 | Cidan | server lag? |
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22:38.09 | Cidan | hap, IRC lag, you're all talking at once. :P |
22:38.11 | Cairenn | that's the one that we know is infected |
22:38.31 | Antiarc | Cairenn: Do you have a copy of the infected file? I'd like to see if AntiVir catches it |
22:38.47 | Cairenn | (5:21:00 PM) Cairenn: (5:14:03 PM) dolby-wowi: if any one wants the infected file let me know |
22:38.48 | Cairenn | (5:21:00 PM) Cairenn: (5:14:22 PM) Cairenn: scythe was just asking for it in the lounge |
22:38.48 | Cairenn | (5:21:00 PM) Cairenn: (5:16:58 PM) dolby-wowi: ok 1 sec will make a link |
22:38.48 | Cairenn | (5:21:00 PM) Cairenn: (5:19:57 PM) dolby-wowi: fs2.wowinterface.com/Sewell_UI_040.ex_infected |
22:38.48 | Cairenn | (5:21:00 PM) Cairenn: (5:20:02 PM) dolby-wowi: rename to .exe |
22:38.48 | Cairenn | (5:21:10 PM) Cairenn: WARNING WARNING WARNING |
22:39.00 | Antiarc | wonderful, thank you |
22:39.05 | Cairenn | welcome |
22:39.22 | Corrodias | ~wonderful~ |
22:39.29 | Antiarc | Are you sure the files were uploaded as trojaned? |
22:39.30 | Cidan | Oh... man, huh |
22:39.35 | Antiarc | That is, that you didn't have a break-in? |
22:39.41 | Cairenn | we know we did |
22:39.50 | Antiarc | ouch :( |
22:39.59 | Antiarc | What was the hole, if you're at liberty to disclose that? |
22:40.12 | Cairenn | "As we continued to investigate, it became apparent that the person who did this only hit our fs2 (file server 2) database server." |
22:40.24 | Antiarc | Corrodias: The wowace repository specifically disallows executable files for this exact reason |
22:40.36 | Corrodias | i know, but the program itself gets updated automatically |
22:40.37 | Cairenn | how much more that gets disclosed is up to dolby-wowi |
22:40.57 | nevcairiel | Antiarc: mine doesnt catch it *cry* |
22:41.07 | dolby-wowi | these files werent uploaded threw our website |
22:41.10 | nevcairiel | possibly a custom one |
22:41.14 | Antiarc | nevcairiel: AntiVir? |
22:41.28 | dolby-wowi | some one gained access to an ssh account |
22:41.32 | nevcairiel | AVK .. a multi-engine product, i think one is Avast, dunno about the other |
22:41.37 | dolby-wowi | that has all been locked down now |
22:41.42 | Antiarc | Avast has always sucked for me :/ |
22:41.49 | Corrodias | pirates are rarely helpful |
22:42.21 | Corrodias | in related news, the Landlubber Firewall has proven ineffective |
22:42.22 | Cidan | hm |
22:42.27 | dolby-wowi | really everything is firewalled / lockeddown until we move to our new servers. |
22:42.59 | bleeter | ~hug dolby-wowi |
22:42.59 | purl | ACTION gets a running start and tackle-hugs dolby-wowi |
22:43.02 | dolby-wowi | will be taking alot of time to lock down our new servers as well |
22:43.04 | reqol | is MOST of what's left of the calltips in scite lua reliable or are they not a good foundation for me to go off? |
22:43.22 | Cidan | Was it a user account or a non-user account in the end? |
22:44.28 | zenzelezz | I lost faith in passwords when I came across one (genuinely): "master" |
22:44.37 | Cidan | hah. |
22:44.47 | zenzelezz | "hey, we've got imba security, let's not use good passwords as a result" |
22:44.50 | Cidan | Well I try to make my passwords passphrases when I can. |
22:45.08 | wereHamster | zenzelezz, you never saw 'init'? /me goes change p/w |
22:45.52 | Antiarc | Cairenn: Could I recommend a more specific thread title? If you're alerting users, that one isn't going to catch any eyes |
22:46.15 | MentalPower | Antiarc: it is in the front page |
22:46.22 | Antiarc | MentalPower: I meant on the WoW forums |
22:46.26 | Cairenn | he means the one on the bliz ... heh |
22:46.32 | Antiarc | My password is 12345. But that's for legacy reasons, for backwards-compatibility with my luggage. |
22:47.27 | Cairenn | changed |
22:48.19 | cladhaire | good thing the only .exe I run is wowaceupdater. |
22:48.19 | cladhaire | ... |
22:48.21 | cladhaire | i mean |
22:48.23 | cladhaire | seriously? |
22:48.26 | cladhaire | "good thing the only .exe I run is wowaceupdater." ? |
22:48.32 | cladhaire | lol |
22:49.41 | MentalPower | talk about false sense of security |
22:49.52 | cladhaire | indeed |
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22:53.02 | Antiarc | Cairenn: AntiVir picks up the virus when you attempt to install SewellUI |
22:53.21 | Cairenn | okay, wait, which version are you talking about |
22:53.31 | Antiarc | which version of what? |
22:53.34 | Cairenn | the one that's live, or the link we gave you |
22:53.53 | Antiarc | The link |
22:54.00 | Antiarc | Just letting you know AntiVir is a working countermeasure |
22:54.00 | Cairenn | yeah, we know it's infected |
22:54.03 | Antiarc | So you can pass that info on |
22:54.10 | Cairenn | ah, okay, thank you |
22:54.10 | Antiarc | (Someone said Avast didn't catch it) |
22:54.27 | zenzelezz | and I said (my) Kaspersky doesn't find anything either |
22:55.06 | Industrial | Gimme new cool anime names, go! http://pastebin.com/m4e6a93e3 |
22:55.31 | Cidan | Look at it this way Cairenn, it could be worse. |
22:55.38 | Cidan | You could be working at Gamespot right now. |
22:55.49 | Cairenn | heh |
22:56.11 | Mr_Rabies2 | Industrial, does that mean you're looking for new anime to watch? |
22:56.18 | Industrial | yes |
22:56.33 | Kaso | You've watched too much anime, i suggest you go watch some other genre |
22:56.38 | Mr_Rabies2 | do you like mystery/horror anime? |
22:56.42 | Mr_Rabies2 | anime's not a genre, kaso |
22:56.44 | Mr_Rabies2 | it's just a medium |
22:57.00 | Mr_Rabies2 | same as live action movies, tv shows, whatever |
22:57.05 | zenzelezz | I thought it was more a style |
22:57.16 | Mr_Rabies2 | i use the same criteria, perhaps more of an artistic eye to anime |
22:57.29 | Mr_Rabies2 | since the director can pretty much make the camera do anything |
22:57.52 | Industrial | hmm maybe Mr_Rabies2 :D Haven't tried any yet |
22:58.20 | Mr_Rabies2 | check out higurashi |
22:58.38 | Industrial | most horror like I've watched were Blood+ and Hellsing |
22:58.48 | Mr_Rabies2 | Higurashi no naku koro ni |
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22:58.54 | Mr_Rabies2 | Higurashi no naku koro ni kai is season 2 |
22:59.23 | Mr_Rabies2 | http://youtube.com/watch?v=N5vcYNm1e30 for the first part of the first episode, watch at least 4-8 episodes before deciding to quit if you do want to |
22:59.58 | Mr_Rabies2 | because the story arcs in 2-6 episode bursts and then basically resets and changes the circumstances up a bit |
23:00.02 | Industrial | k |
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23:00.43 | Mr_Rabies2 | i.e. don't be too pissed when a character you like dies |
23:00.47 | Mr_Rabies2 | because it's gonna happen a lot |
23:01.14 | Mr_Rabies2 | it looks like a comedy anime for the first 2 episodes or so |
23:01.39 | Mr_Rabies2 | then the first half of the 3rd is comedy-ish and then all of a sudden it gets incredibly brutal (though most of the violence is offscreen, it's still really brutal) |
23:02.11 | Mr_Rabies2 | you get attached to the characters eventually so you feel a loss when they go crazy and start murdering people or get murdered |
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23:05.35 | ScytheBlade1 | Has anyone seen "21.exe" on their systems? |
23:05.45 | ScytheBlade1 | 28kB in size |
23:05.53 | bleeter | not mine ;) |
23:05.58 | ScytheBlade1 | lol |
23:06.01 | ScytheBlade1 | Cheater :P |
23:06.37 | ScytheBlade1 | Just asking. For me, said executable was repopulating wzcsvbc.dll and mouse.dll whenever I started WoW, and I would assume it was created by printfpool.exe's service |
23:07.10 | Cairenn | those dll's were the ones showing up in the trojan at uic |
23:07.12 | bleeter | I'm almost half tempted to try to run their installer inside wine, just to see |
23:07.15 | ScytheBlade1 | Yup. |
23:07.18 | ScytheBlade1 | And, somehow |
23:07.23 | ScytheBlade1 | I also had printfpool.exe |
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23:07.51 | bleeter | but instead, I'm working on getting checksum and AV reports on auctioneer's website |
23:08.22 | Cairenn | printfspool, not printfpool, ScytheBlade1 |
23:08.33 | Cairenn | (at least, the one at our site) |
23:08.34 | reqol | how would I find out the other member in a trade? |
23:08.44 | reqol | I'm guessing I have to parse something from the event since there is no API for it |
23:08.49 | ScytheBlade1 | Okay, that's odd. |
23:08.59 | ScytheBlade1 | Because you're right.. |
23:09.08 | ScytheBlade1 | And that name is too similar to be a conincidence |
23:09.28 | Cairenn | unless both dolby and shirik typo'd |
23:09.35 | Cairenn | when they gave me the info to post |
23:09.41 | Cairenn | and when they were tearing into it last night |
23:09.47 | ScytheBlade1 | Well it would be a minor typo if anything |
23:09.50 | ScytheBlade1 | But both? Doubtful |
23:09.50 | Antiarc | Man, I'm sorry I missed that one :( |
23:09.59 | ScytheBlade1 | Antiarc: it's still up |
23:10.07 | Cairenn | Antiarc: missed what? |
23:10.20 | Antiarc | The feeding frenzy that Shirik + co must have had last night :) |
23:10.25 | ScytheBlade1 | <PROTECTED> |
23:10.31 | Antiarc | ScytheBlade1: I have a copy, thanks |
23:10.36 | Antiarc | But it's already been taken apart :P |
23:10.41 | ScytheBlade1 | Antiarc: ah, thought that's what you missed ;) |
23:10.41 | Cairenn | no, it was just dolby & shirik at it, in our staff channel |
23:10.56 | Antiarc | Heh, Shirik pinged me last night. That must have been why :) |
23:11.04 | Cairenn | most likely |
23:11.35 | reqol | humph. there's no event when someone requests a trade. there's a TRADE_SHOW but it doesn't have any arguments. now I'm stumped as to how I'm supposed to accomplish this. |
23:11.37 | Cairenn | because he was utterly swamped with other stuff |
23:12.05 | WobWork | So... what's this about the Blizzard merger? |
23:12.16 | Cairenn | still is, which is why the information you see on the front page of the site is all the info I have to give you on it - he really didn't actually get very far pulling it apart, just enough to know that it's bad |
23:12.19 | ScytheBlade1 | WobWork: probably the only reason I'll ever go emo |
23:12.46 | Cairenn | WobWork: "Under the terms of an agreement with Vivendi, Blizzard and the other companies that make up Vivendi Games will combine with Activision to form a new public company called Activision Blizzard" : http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=3168513659&sid=1 |
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23:12.54 | bleeter | WobWork: It's all to do with V-UA getting a kick up the arse.... (I hope) ;) |
23:13.24 | WobWork | ACTIBLIZZARD! |
23:14.20 | ScytheBlade1 | Cairenn: have you been able to determine any relation to your and incgamer's issues? Any connections at all? |
23:14.46 | Cairenn | we know it was a chinese ip that got in |
23:15.08 | WobWork | Damn chinese =P |
23:15.10 | WobWork | <.< |
23:15.12 | WobWork | >.> |
23:15.21 | Cairenn | that's all we know for sure |
23:15.42 | Antiarc | The trojan and virus appear to be a variant of the wowui variant |
23:15.54 | Antiarc | Given the timing and nature of delivery, I'd say it's a good bet it's the same people. |
23:15.58 | ScytheBlade1 | Same applies to incgamers.. and I find it hard to believe that the timing, and similarities are two random occurances |
23:16.05 | ScytheBlade1 | Yeah, that's what I'm wondering |
23:16.14 | ScytheBlade1 | "printfpool" vs. "printfspool" |
23:16.35 | Cairenn | either that, or someone decided to take issue with some of the comments made in the incgamer thread and decided to hit us for it |
23:16.43 | ScytheBlade1 | lol |
23:16.44 | bleeter | I'd also hazard a guess that WoWI's 'never been hacked/trojaned' claims might've been seen as... well, I don't wanna finish that sentence 'coz it might piss people off |
23:16.46 | Cairenn | but that's me being overly paranoid |
23:16.50 | bleeter | Cairenn: my thoguhts 100% |
23:17.19 | ScytheBlade1 | Cairenn: if you don't mind me asking, do you know how they got in? It's completly unrelated, but I'm incredibly curious |
23:17.38 | bleeter | ScytheBlade1: dolby-wowi said it was an ssh attack, I think |
23:17.40 | Cairenn | bleeter: they weren't "claims" - until now, no one has ever successfully hacked us |
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23:17.44 | WobWork | They posed as Avon ladies |
23:17.56 | Antiarc | Cairenn: Given that the packaged trojan is a variant and not a copy of the wowui version, I'd say it'd be extremely unlikely that a vengeful reader did it |
23:17.59 | ScytheBlade1 | bleeter: ah |
23:18.05 | WobWork | And cunningly got by by offering free cosmetic samples |
23:18.13 | bleeter | Cairenn: no offence, I haven't seen an independant auditors report ;) |
23:18.33 | Cairenn | bleeter: no offense, go ask the users of our sites for the last 5 years |
23:18.41 | Cairenn | when did you turn into such an asshole? |
23:18.48 | ScytheBlade1 | Cidan: your ".wowadd" idea? I've been tossing the same thing around in my head for months. |
23:19.08 | bleeter | wtf? |
23:19.16 | ScytheBlade1 | Cairenn: don't be hard on him. He's a gaim developer ;) |
23:19.24 | ScytheBlade1 | ;) |
23:19.49 | dreamss | whaat site got owned? |
23:20.00 | Cairenn | ScytheBlade1: (5:39:50 PM) Antiarc: What was the hole, if you're at liberty to disclose that? |
23:20.00 | Cairenn | (5:40:03 PM) Cairenn: "As we continued to investigate, it became apparent that the person who did this only hit our fs2 (file server 2) database server." |
23:20.00 | Cairenn | (5:40:28 PM) Cairenn: how much more that gets disclosed is up to dolby-wowi |
23:20.00 | Cairenn | (5:40:58 PM) dolby-wowi: these files werent uploaded threw our website |
23:20.00 | Cairenn | (5:41:19 PM) dolby-wowi: some one gained access to an ssh account |
23:20.01 | Cairenn | (5:41:28 PM) dolby-wowi: that has all been locked down now |
23:20.03 | Cairenn | (5:42:18 PM) dolby-wowi: really everything is firewalled / lockeddown until we move to our new servers. |
23:20.05 | Cairenn | (5:42:50 PM) bleeter: ~hug dolby-wowi |
23:20.07 | Cairenn | (5:42:51 PM) ***purl gets a running start and tackle-hugs dolby-wowi |
23:20.09 | Cairenn | (5:42:53 PM) dolby-wowi: will be taking alot of time to lock down our new servers as well" |
23:20.24 | bleeter | yup, me hugging dolby-wowi and Cairenn makes me such a fucking asshole, don't it |
23:20.30 | Antiarc | Just brute-forced the SSH login then, I guess, or did they compromise the ssh daemon? |
23:20.41 | Antiarc | (I mostly want to know if I need to watch for an openssh exploit for my own servers' purposes) |
23:20.42 | dreamss | hmmm |
23:20.45 | Cairenn | I'm sorry, the way you said it, it didn't come across as teasing |
23:20.58 | WobWork | bleeter: You need larger smilies =) |
23:21.09 | zenzelezz | I'd guess it's more the way you keep speaking as if you need outside ("objective") reports |
23:21.20 | dreamss | Antiarc, sadly most of the time u find u/p in text files |
23:21.28 | Cairenn | hey, I'm upset I won't deny it and I'm taking things in entirely the wrong way no doubt |
23:22.01 | dreamss | Cairenn, i suggest you guys start using ssh keys also put sshd on a diff port |
23:22.52 | bleeter | WobWork: it's just simple fact. any claim of security is baseless without independent 3rd party verification who are prepared to stake their personal/corporate name to it. eg, APEC's claimed security. Who verified that total PoS =) |
23:22.57 | dreamss | is the user the same user who owns ur other website files? |
23:23.09 | Antiarc | ScytheBlade1: Did you determine the target domain name yet? |
23:23.17 | Antiarc | It's the same letter-swap algorithm |
23:23.23 | Antiarc | I don't have my lookup table from the other one though :( |
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23:23.39 | ScytheBlade1 | Antiarc: no, but I have all of the parts of the trojan that I've found in a .zip (the incgamers one) |
23:23.41 | Cairenn | bleeter: I'm sorry I'm snapping at you |
23:23.53 | Cairenn | (and anyone else that that apology applies to) |
23:23.53 | ScytheBlade1 | I have yet to touch the wowi one, but probably will once I'm sure my system is clean |
23:24.02 | reqol | Cairenn: stress does that to us all |
23:24.08 | reqol | whether we like it or not |
23:27.23 | *** join/#wowi-lounge Xuerian (n=core@va-71-2-166-68.dhcp.embarqhsd.net) |
23:27.48 | reqol | to reiterate my question (I don't mean to seem impatient, I am not. if there is no one with time to help me, I understand in light of the recent events) :there's no event when someone requests a trade. there's a TRADE_SHOW but it doesn't have any arguments. now I'm stumped as to how I'm supposed to accomplish this. |
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23:30.21 | Kaso | reqol, according to the framexml the unitID "NPC" should give you info about your trade partner |
23:30.34 | ScytheBlade1 | Antiarc: okay, giving the wowi one a shot now |
23:30.39 | Kaso | lines 41+ of TradeFrame.lua |
23:31.51 | Iriel | This is cool; http://flickrvision.com/ |
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23:32.27 | Rayne | ever have a dinner so good that afterwords you just want to curl up and fall into a food coma for awhile? |
23:32.45 | alestane | Usually around the fourth Thursday in November. |
23:33.23 | ScytheBlade1 | Antiarc: LOLOL - when you install the Sewell, does it bring up cmd.exe asking you for a login with a typical ASCII art banner? |
23:33.30 | Antiarc | Not here |
23:33.38 | ScytheBlade1 | A haha, this is rich |
23:33.59 | bleeter | Rayne: frequently |
23:34.15 | Taeri | this might sound like a weird question |
23:34.37 | zenzelezz | that's not a question, that's a statement |
23:34.38 | Taeri | but does the guildrosterinfo function sort of... exlude one person by default? :P |
23:35.31 | reqol | Kaso: thanks a lot! |
23:35.51 | bleeter | Iriel: that's cute, tho I think the 3d one's cuter =) |
23:36.19 | alestane | ? |
23:36.28 | Kaso | reqol, you can see the cute here if you like; http://wdn.wowinterface.com/code/0307561/FrameXML/TradeFrame.lua |
23:36.32 | Iriel | bleeter: I think the 3D one distracts from the pictures |
23:36.55 | bleeter | Iriel: the 2d one takes too long to move the maps around for the pics to load here, so is near total fail =) |
23:37.48 | Antiarc | ScytheBlade1: For some reason, Wireshark isn't picking up this one's net traffic, unless it's not actually doing anything online |
23:38.51 | ScytheBlade1 | Antiarc: same results here, just tried to login with fake information |
23:39.11 | ScytheBlade1 | Antiarc: I DO have mouse.dll and wzcsvbc.dll again, however |
23:39.51 | Iriel | This makes me wish my camera wasn't broken |
23:43.24 | reqol | I had a page on setting onload functions for an all lua script, but I seem to have misplaced it. could anyone direct me to something similar. I believe it was on wowinterface. |
23:43.32 | ScytheBlade1 | Antiarc: complete list of files found so far related to it? |
23:43.39 | Antiarc | Working on it |
23:43.43 | Antiarc | Nearly have the domain it's pulling from |
23:44.05 | ScytheBlade1 | I'm going to have to reinstall it, I forgot wireshark :/ |
23:44.14 | bleeter | ~whaleslap ScytheBlade1 |
23:44.14 | purl | ACTION beats ScytheBlade1 upside and over the head with a freakishly huge killer whale named Hugh |
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23:45.22 | Antiarc | Okay, found it |
23:45.30 | Antiarc | The trojan is pulling from http://wowui.incgamersi.com/ updata.exe |
23:45.45 | Antiarc | Which I think is the game file |
23:45.47 | Antiarc | same file* |
23:45.56 | Antiarc | In fact, I know it is |
23:46.07 | Antiarc | So yeah, same infection |
23:46.17 | ScytheBlade1 | ... haha |
23:46.29 | Antiarc | Note the "i" on the end of the domain |
23:46.33 | ScytheBlade1 | Yup |
23:46.36 | Cairenn | so I need to tell them to look for "mouse.dll and wzcsvbc.dll" as well? |
23:46.39 | Antiarc | Yes. |
23:46.44 | Antiarc | It's the same virus as wowui |
23:46.48 | ScytheBlade1 | Yup.. same removal instructions |
23:46.48 | Antiarc | So same cleaning procedures |
23:47.03 | Cairenn | except now we know a couple more files to look for |
23:47.04 | ScytheBlade1 | To be honest, the solutions posted on the wow forums do NOT work for me. |
23:47.14 | Antiarc | ScytheBlade1: It's possible that we missed something |
23:47.22 | Antiarc | Some resident file that's still sticking around |
23:47.25 | ScytheBlade1 | It seems that the wowui got half of the infection, and the wowi got the other half |
23:47.34 | ScytheBlade1 | Antiarc: exactly, I've found said resident file, as have others... sec |
23:47.35 | Cairenn | Okay, I have to run out real quick to pick my daughter up, I'll be back |
23:47.41 | ScytheBlade1 | Antiarc: http://www.wowinterface.com/forums/showthread.php?p=77364 |
23:48.10 | ScytheBlade1 | Yup. Got it. |
23:48.16 | Cairenn | if you guys want to post those findings to the (threads), feel free |
23:48.17 | ScytheBlade1 | printfpool is installed as a service. |
23:48.27 | Antiarc | AntiVir picked up mouse.dll on a scan of windows/system32 |
23:48.34 | ScytheBlade1 | Let me box it all up in one pretty document first, Cairenn |
23:48.45 | Antiarc | Picked up printfpool.exe |
23:48.49 | Cairenn | I'll be back |
23:49.06 | bleeter | Antiarc: what's it saying the files are infected with? |
23:49.06 | Antiarc | Picked up wzcsvbc.cll |
23:49.12 | Antiarc | HEUR/Malware |
23:49.19 | Antiarc | It's detecting it heuristically |
23:49.25 | Antiarc | no specific signature found, but it find it :) |
23:49.27 | bleeter | k, thx |
23:49.38 | ScytheBlade1 | printfpool.exe is the service that it installs, printfpool.exe I think will unload another exe (21.exe in my case) which is responsible for sticking wzcsvbc.dll and mouse.dll back in place |
23:49.40 | Antiarc | AHA |
23:49.41 | Antiarc | ScytheBlade1: |
23:49.52 | Antiarc | It is putting itself in the system restore caches as well, I think |
23:49.59 | ScytheBlade1 | I don't use sysatem restore |
23:50.02 | ScytheBlade1 | I've got it disabled |
23:50.20 | Antiarc | Not that |
23:50.26 | Antiarc | The windows auto-restore-bad-files thing |
23:50.35 | ScytheBlade1 | 0_0 |
23:50.36 | bleeter | that thing's so evil |
23:50.43 | bleeter | for this very reason |
23:50.50 | Antiarc | Hm |
23:50.55 | ScytheBlade1 | You positive? |
23:51.00 | ScytheBlade1 | I didn't come up with that in my findings |
23:51.00 | Antiarc | No |
23:51.04 | Antiarc | But I did pick up a copy in C:\WINDOWS\system32\config\systemprofile\Local Settings\Temporary Internet Files\Content.IE5\HLCRKM6X |
23:51.10 | ScytheBlade1 | Same |
23:51.14 | ScytheBlade1 | That's not system restore though |
23:51.17 | Antiarc | Right |
23:51.24 | Antiarc | I read the initial path wrong |
23:51.28 | ScytheBlade1 | Ah, k |
23:52.30 | Antiarc | Used AntiVir to clean, gonna see if that did it |
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23:53.12 | Antiarc | Okay, mouse.dll is back after a clean+system reboot |
23:53.22 | ScytheBlade1 | Nuke the printfpool service |
23:53.29 | ScytheBlade1 | Safe mode, "sc delete printfpool" |
23:53.33 | ScytheBlade1 | And rename the .exe |
23:53.33 | Antiarc | Already deleted the exe |
23:54.06 | ScytheBlade1 | It watches it's own back two ways (or more): |
23:54.24 | ScytheBlade1 | 1) lsass.exe scans for mouse.dll every second, and replaces it through another process if it doesn't exist |
23:54.46 | ScytheBlade1 | 2) The printfpool service, which waits for WoW to start, and from what I can tell, then reinstalls the trokan/keylogger |
23:55.00 | ScytheBlade1 | My system WAS clean until I started WoW with the printfpool service running |
23:55.09 | Antiarc | Interesting. Thanks. |
23:55.09 | ScytheBlade1 | Suddenly my old friend wzcsvbc.dll was back once I did |
23:55.35 | Rayne | hmm |
23:56.00 | ScytheBlade1 | (Also of note, lsass.exe also watches the legit wzcsvc keys to ensure that it remains trojaned, if you suspend or kill lsass.exe it stops watching and repopulating said files/reg keys) |
23:56.06 | Antiarc | Okay, a second cleaning after reboot seems to have done it in |
23:56.09 | Rayne | I already asked Jelly this, but how would I go about having Omen auto-move itself from where its positioned in a solo / party spot, to another area for when in raid? |
23:57.11 | ScytheBlade1 | Antiarc: start WoW, login (I used my actual account and password to login, and then changed the password) |
23:57.15 | ScytheBlade1 | See if it comes back then |
23:57.16 | Kaso | tiny addon that checks the raid join event and SetPoints the omen frame to a new location rayne |
23:57.25 | Antiarc | Kaso has the right idea |
23:57.42 | Kaso | like 10-15 lines of code most |
23:58.06 | Rayne | I couldnt code to save the planet |
23:58.07 | Rayne | -_- |