| 00:00.13 | art3mis | ya know |
| 00:00.32 | art3mis | when i pirate winders stuff i tend to view it as a library and that ill eventually buy it if i sue it a lot |
| 00:01.15 | malreth | art3mis: you are a god among men |
| 00:01.17 | art3mis | but now that ive got osx on my pc and im "borrowing" osx software i dont even feel the slightest like purchasing anything for the mac because most mac people are uber annoying and deserve head shots |
| 00:01.40 | malreth | yeah... that'll teach those stupid programmers |
| 00:01.49 | art3mis | that and i think "WWJD" |
| 00:01.49 | malreth | writing programs and trying to make a living |
| 00:02.04 | art3mis | what would jobs do |
| 00:02.11 | malreth | fuck them for trying to cater to some stupid platform with stupid users |
| 00:02.28 | art3mis | and having read his "story" i know that he'd steal it and maximize as much as he could so as to pay off the possible lawsuits if they come |
| 00:02.49 | art3mis | malreth: it's the people as a whole |
| 00:02.50 | malreth | i blame jobs for all the wackjob mac users |
| 00:02.58 | art3mis | i equate mac with hipster |
| 00:03.07 | malreth | i equate mac with moron |
| 00:03.22 | malreth | anyone who uses a mac deserves to be generalized |
| 00:03.28 | art3mis | the losers trust fund bitches that dress like 1970's hobos and think they're all retro looking like grubby homeless people |
| 00:03.38 | malreth | yeah... |
| 00:03.39 | art3mis | and in new york it's not far off |
| 00:04.02 | art3mis | then again i equate pc people(at least techs) as arrogant assholes ;) |
| 00:04.15 | malreth | an astute observation, old bean |
| 00:04.27 | art3mis | takes one to know one as they say ;) |
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| 00:05.11 | art3mis | i mean there are some mac programs that would be worth it, i just have no use for them |
| 00:05.25 | art3mis | the graphics and music crap that macs get deserves the money |
| 00:05.56 | art3mis | but 19.95 for a program that automates or gives you extra icons for the dock... |
| 00:06.03 | art3mis | and its not even shareware? |
| 00:06.07 | art3mis | wth |
| 00:06.31 | malreth | i'm glad that crap software doesn't exist for windows |
| 00:06.40 | art3mis | heh |
| 00:06.54 | art3mis | well to be fair the OS sets the bar in that respect ;) |
| 00:06.56 | malreth | hold on, i have to go back to work on my garden layout |
| 00:07.35 | malreth | http://www.homedesignersoftware.com/landscaping/?gclid=CL-3n-nd-48CFQJFgQodKWXZEw |
| 00:08.10 | art3mis | thats prety neat |
| 00:08.17 | art3mis | er perty |
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| 00:13.29 | bleeter | some of them unconfirmed 2.3.2 bugs are pretty amusing http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=3120936335&postId=31206661399&sid=1#0 |
| 00:14.04 | bleeter | PVP trinket cannot be used to break rogue Sap. |
| 00:14.18 | bleeter | Stormwind bank does not work. |
| 00:14.39 | Gngsk | does it say anything about the shartuul event? |
| 00:14.49 | bleeter | nope |
| 00:14.52 | Gngsk | I was doing that earlier and something happened, my shivaan bugged and kept shrinking and shrinking |
| 00:14.57 | Gngsk | I couldn't switch stances correctly |
| 00:15.09 | bleeter | doesn't mention stupid pet pathing, but this is the unconfirmed list |
| 00:15.11 | Gngsk | kept saying "a more powerful spell exists already" |
| 00:15.45 | Gngsk | I wonder if anyone has ever seen what happened to my shivaan assassin today, was so weird. |
| 00:15.51 | bleeter | I occasionally get that on my mage when trying to recast her frost shield thingy |
| 00:16.20 | bleeter | iirc, used to get it occasionally on my hunter too when casting trueshot aura |
| 00:17.44 | Kelfarr | ding 350 tailoring!! |
| 00:19.15 | Valaron|Work | I bow to your sewing skills. |
| 00:21.58 | Kelfarr | lols |
| 00:22.03 | Kelfarr | i sew amazingly |
| 00:23.14 | malreth | why do people on the forums always tell people to uncheck the Read Only flag on folders in Windows... Don't all folders have the Read Only flag set (i.e.: it's meaningless)? |
| 00:23.34 | malreth | i could see maybe telling people to check their NTFS permissions for the folder |
| 00:24.25 | Kelfarr | not really |
| 00:24.57 | Kelfarr | i had a problem when I was playing day of defeat everytime I tried to change my name it would say "cannot right over config, its set to read-only" |
| 00:25.19 | WobWork | write? |
| 00:25.33 | Kelfarr | yar |
| 00:26.17 | malreth | Kelfarr: was that on a file or a folder? |
| 00:26.29 | malreth | for files, it will prevent modification |
| 00:26.38 | malreth | but on folders, it's meaningless |
| 00:27.32 | malreth | get properties on any folder on your system... they all have the Read Only flag set |
| 00:29.40 | art3mis | http://www.sciam.com/article.cfm?id=nobel-scientist-quits-in <-- i love this guy |
| 00:38.03 | art3mis | http://www.openbsd-france.org/reposit/goodies/www.uberg33k.com/bsdgirl/ |
| 00:39.20 | Kelfarr | it was a file |
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| 00:57.09 | malreth | you know... maybe i should spend more time actually playing the game instead of posting in forums and chatting in IRC about it |
| 00:57.23 | malreth | maybe then i'll actually hit lv 70 on at least one character |
| 00:58.16 | malreth | hrmmph.. another soft-pull by my insurance company... |
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| 01:05.34 | art3mis | When you are fighting Kael'tas in Tempest keep in phase 2 he spawns weapons and after they are killed you can loot legendary weapons. Weapons will deappear after whipe or leaving tempest keep. |
| 01:05.34 | art3mis | When you see your raid will whipe and you have weapon go to safe spot and press alt+f4, if you stay alive 20sec while keal is engaged you will keep weapon when you log in. |
| 01:05.34 | art3mis | We noticed too staff buff will be in all groups if 1 ppl have staff equipped in next try. |
| 01:08.15 | foxlit|mac | Pointless exploit? |
| 01:08.24 | art3mis | lets ya keep the legendarys |
| 01:08.30 | art3mis | so i guess you get 2? |
| 01:08.42 | foxlit|mac | you get all of them anyway |
| 01:08.51 | art3mis | yea but not til phase 2 |
| 01:08.58 | Cide | helps you kill stuff faster next attempt :P |
| 01:09.00 | foxlit|mac | You basically don't care in phase 1 |
| 01:09.10 | art3mis | more or less |
| 01:09.21 | art3mis | one of those useless but handy sploits i suppose |
| 01:09.25 | Cide | would help on the shield and stuff |
| 01:09.29 | Cide | just to kill it slightly faster |
| 01:09.38 | Cide | since it tends to stick around |
| 01:09.44 | Arrowmaster | would help me tank the astromancer in p1 |
| 01:09.49 | art3mis | the staff buff thing i dunno about though |
| 01:09.57 | art3mis | never fought him |
| 01:10.07 | Arrowmaster | p1 is a fucking joke anyway |
| 01:10.15 | art3mis | does it normally only effect the group you're in? |
| 01:10.22 | MentalPower | is there a better randomseed than time()? |
| 01:10.26 | gnorlish | it affects a radius |
| 01:10.30 | gnorlish | when /used |
| 01:10.39 | art3mis | mental 22/7 ;P |
| 01:11.02 | MentalPower | ~lart art3mis |
| 01:11.02 | purl | teaches art3mis that M$ Access is a database. No, really, a database. A real live multi-user... well, ok, not multi-user, but a database. Yeah, that sounds right. |
| 01:11.05 | MentalPower | :P |
| 01:11.19 | art3mis | really? |
| 01:11.30 | art3mis | i thought access was what people used then excel was too complicated |
| 01:11.35 | Kelfarr | [spellcloth] x2 yay |
| 01:11.43 | art3mis | hey kel |
| 01:11.50 | art3mis | go to the fire eles in blades edge |
| 01:12.01 | art3mis | they still rapid spawn near the clumps where you plant the seeds |
| 01:12.11 | art3mis | stock on on primal fires ;P |
| 01:12.18 | art3mis | stock up |
| 01:13.00 | Kelfarr | ok |
| 01:13.39 | Kelfarr | i only have 300g eek, i need to buy 2 pieces of spellcloth tonight also |
| 01:13.43 | Kelfarr | so i can get my first piece of the set |
| 01:14.22 | Kelfarr | woah |
| 01:14.25 | Kelfarr | nice looking UI http://img341.imageshack.us/img341/351/wowscrnshot091507002527ih5.jpg |
| 01:14.25 | art3mis | just go make yer moon and shadow and trade ;P |
| 01:14.32 | Kelfarr | thats what i am doing |
| 01:15.01 | art3mis | where's the ghost cat from? |
| 01:15.18 | art3mis | my shadow priest needs one ;) |
| 01:15.34 | kd3 | welp, since there's talk of an "upcoming PTR build", I guess that means 2.3.2 isn't going live tomorrow. dunno why they need 10 hours to enable s3, though |
| 01:15.35 | dylanm | Spectral tiger? TCG. |
| 01:15.41 | art3mis | shadow kodo and shadow ugly giant goat are getting boring |
| 01:15.53 | art3mis | tcg? |
| 01:16.04 | dylanm | Trading Card <blank> |
| 01:16.07 | art3mis | ahh |
| 01:16.22 | art3mis | okay i dont need one that bad |
| 01:16.35 | art3mis | shadow kodo and egbert will suffice i guess |
| 01:16.43 | WobWork | "game" |
| 01:16.46 | art3mis | i still have brooms on alts too |
| 01:16.48 | Kelfarr | that card is 500$ on ebay lol |
| 01:16.51 | WobWork | Although... |
| 01:16.54 | WobWork | robot chicken? |
| 01:16.55 | WobWork | omg |
| 01:17.05 | WobWork | er Robot ROCKET chicken... |
| 01:17.07 | art3mis | i cant get one |
| 01:17.22 | art3mis | actually i wonder if i accidently sold my ram reins |
| 01:17.32 | WobWork | I don't think they're sellable |
| 01:17.39 | pez| | they aren't. |
| 01:17.40 | dylanm | WobWork: YOU WIN |
| 01:17.49 | WobWork | dylanm: I do? |
| 01:17.51 | WobWork | What do I win? |
| 01:18.04 | dylanm | Yeah that confused me... someone said that Sellomatic or something sold their epic mount which I didn't think possible |
| 01:18.13 | dylanm | Oh good the queue is only 1min tonight |
| 01:18.27 | art3mis | i better go check |
| 01:18.36 | art3mis | that would make me sad |
| 01:18.52 | WobWork | sure, they're cheaper now |
| 01:18.55 | WobWork | but still =\ |
| 01:20.38 | foxlit | So, I've got a question |
| 01:20.45 | foxlit | Why would anyone want to afk in a battleground now? |
| 01:22.58 | JoshBorke | because they bug and can't do anything |
| 01:23.47 | Shirik|Ecole | by the time people report you, you'e already gained enough honor to make it worth it |
| 01:23.50 | Shirik|Ecole | that's why people do it |
| 01:23.57 | Shirik|Ecole | just bot afk |
| 01:26.02 | art3mis | hrm |
| 01:26.14 | art3mis | it appears that my invisible pet and my ram are both gone |
| 01:26.24 | WobWork | there should be a weighting value placed on afking in bgs |
| 01:26.35 | Shirik|Ecole | I'm working on an addon that should solve this problem :) |
| 01:26.39 | Shirik|Ecole | assuming enough people use it |
| 01:26.42 | WobWork | the more you're reported, and booted, the longer you have to wait in the queue |
| 01:26.59 | WobWork | That sort of Blizzard solution would be best |
| 01:27.03 | Shirik|Ecole | it would |
| 01:27.10 | art3mis | oh wait no im just a retard |
| 01:27.19 | art3mis | i never did it on my priest only my paladin |
| 01:27.20 | art3mis | heh |
| 01:27.35 | art3mis | stupid alts |
| 01:30.01 | Intangir | hey guys |
| 01:30.05 | Intangir | how do i view .blp files.. |
| 01:31.48 | MentalPower | there are a few converters available |
| 01:32.00 | MentalPower | XNView also can open most BLPs |
| 01:32.14 | MentalPower | and I think theres a Photoshop plugin somewhere (never used it tho) |
| 01:32.27 | art3mis | java blp2tga |
| 01:32.33 | MentalPower | I have a BLP <-> PNG converter for windows if you're interested |
| 01:32.36 | art3mis | simple drag and drop |
| 01:32.49 | art3mis | maybe tis a blp->png java convertor |
| 01:33.14 | Intangir | MentalPower: how does it work? |
| 01:33.36 | Intangir | command line? or an app? |
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| 01:33.46 | MentalPower | http://svn.norganna.org/gatherer/misc/BLPConverter.exe |
| 01:33.49 | MentalPower | commandline |
| 01:33.50 | haste | what about the commandline app on wowi? |
| 01:33.59 | MentalPower | you can drag-n-drop it |
| 01:34.05 | WobWork | oh man |
| 01:34.11 | WobWork | I <3 Ursula Vernon |
| 01:34.12 | WobWork | the Christmas concert is on Tuesday 4 December in St Andrews Anglican Church, Rosenthal Avenue, Lane Cove. |
| 01:34.14 | WobWork | er |
| 01:34.17 | WobWork | mispaste |
| 01:34.19 | Intangir | haste: which one? |
| 01:34.22 | WobWork | http://ursulav.livejournal.com/692387.html?style=mine#cutid1 |
| 01:35.09 | foxlit | lua blp2png! |
| 01:35.16 | haste | http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info6127-BLP2PNG.html |
| 01:35.31 | foxlit | I don't particulary like the binary one |
| 01:35.48 | foxlit | The PNG->BLP portion does some very, very unlikable conversions |
| 01:36.22 | Intangir | MentalPower: cool it worked thanks |
| 01:37.22 | MentalPower | foxlit: oh? I haven't had any issues with it |
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| 01:37.48 | foxlit | I have, mostly with straight lines |
| 01:38.33 | MentalPower | ah, I think that has to do with the BLP format, not the conversion process |
| 01:39.31 | foxlit | yes and no |
| 01:41.12 | foxlit | The output is a BLP limitation |
| 01:41.21 | foxlit | But the algorithm is at fault for picking the wrong BLP mode |
| 01:41.30 | MentalPower | point |
| 01:42.13 | Shirik|Ecole | foxlit also doesn't like it because he didn't write it :D |
| 01:42.16 | Shirik|Ecole | But I can respect that :) |
| 01:42.23 | foxlit | yeah, hatehatehate! |
| 01:42.40 | foxlit | I also dislike that I can't look at the source :P |
| 01:43.05 | foxlit | But that's secondary to it working in the bestest way possible :P |
| 01:43.34 | art3mis | http://purl.rikers.org/%23wowi-lounge/20070615.html.gz |
| 01:43.43 | art3mis | when bored read old logs |
| 01:43.50 | art3mis | it's like the channel is still active |
| 01:44.03 | art3mis | and even creepier to remember some of the topics |
| 01:44.30 | art3mis | 00:08.14bleeterchrist, not this discussion again <-- sums up that day best |
| 01:46.15 | foxlit | http://www.curse.com/downloads/details/5573/ |
| 01:46.19 | foxlit | died a sad death there |
| 01:46.22 | Gngsk | nymbia, have you looked at the snoop reagentstring error at all? |
| 01:48.11 | kd3 | wow at the forums. plenty of replies, no views |
| 02:14.14 | Thunder_Child | http://gizmodo.com/assets/resources/2007/11/paintballoffice.jpg |
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| 02:24.59 | cogwheel | who shot the forums? |
| 02:25.37 | JoshBorke | cogwheel: that'd be me sir |
| 02:26.09 | cogwheel | err... hmm... looks like my connection is spazzing... |
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| 02:31.06 | Shirik | cogwheel: ping? |
| 02:31.11 | cogwheel | Shirik: pong |
| 02:36.16 | Industrial | meh this is insane :( only with auto shot my aggro goes through the roof |
| 02:36.27 | Industrial | eg I keep getting aggro instead of my pet |
| 02:36.39 | Industrial | this never happened pre 60 :P |
| 02:37.18 | Industrial | gotta jump and run and initmidate and slow and wing clip and trap and and and at every mob.. |
| 02:38.30 | Gngsk | what lvl are you? |
| 02:38.37 | Industrial | 64 |
| 02:38.48 | Gngsk | what lvl is your pet? 63? |
| 02:38.51 | Industrial | yes |
| 02:39.24 | Gngsk | turn growl back on? :P |
| 02:39.34 | Industrial | its on :P |
| 02:39.45 | Industrial | and bite 8 and gor 8 |
| 02:39.47 | Industrial | gore* |
| 02:40.04 | Gngsk | I'm afraid, the world might collapse if you ding 70 |
| 02:40.18 | Industrial | hah, Ellipsis said the same thing :P |
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| 02:42.38 | WobWork | omg |
| 02:42.44 | WobWork | there's no way you could ding 70 |
| 02:42.47 | WobWork | =( |
| 02:42.55 | WobWork | it's probably the sign for me to quit wow =P |
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| 02:43.10 | Industrial | keke |
| 02:43.22 | Industrial | the end of the world is near! |
| 02:44.15 | WobWork | nah,that's "Industrial: keke, just downed Kael!" |
| 02:45.40 | dylanm | That's next week. |
| 02:46.14 | Industrial | no more like "keke, got my s3" |
| 02:46.33 | Industrial | ;D |
| 02:46.51 | dylanm | "Industrial burns Kael'thas Sunstrider on forumz." "Kael'thas Sunstrider dies." |
| 02:46.58 | Industrial | lol |
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| 02:54.05 | Kelfarr | anyone wanna see an arena team who got 3000 rating in 1 week? |
| 02:54.07 | Kelfarr | http://www.wowarmory.com/team-info.xml?r=Mug%27thol&ts=3&t=Aint+Nothin+to+a+Boss&select=Aint+Nothin+to+a+Boss&fl=1 |
| 02:55.46 | Corrodias | now my hunter never had threat issues |
| 02:55.51 | Corrodias | what's your build, there, Industrial? |
| 02:56.06 | Corrodias | not that auto should build much threat anyway... sure you have growl on autocast? >_> |
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| 02:56.31 | Industrial | no mistake growl was off im a retard |
| 02:56.32 | Industrial | HOWEVER |
| 02:56.39 | Industrial | I do have threat issues. |
| 02:56.46 | Industrial | !c eu grim batol seryan |
| 02:56.49 | ThraeBot | Industrial: Seryan, Level 64 Troll Hunter (41/14/0). 5045 HP; 4025 Mana; 76 mana regen; 3217 Armour; 1041 AP; 143.100 Melee DPS; 6.80% melee crit; 38 melee hit; 992 RAP; 198.00 Ranged DPS; 15.80% ranged crit; 38 ranged hit; 8.33% dodge;[[ TBR: 1419 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/yrw6xs ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/2n8t5r ][ Updated: Mon Nov 26 18:03:43 2007 EST ]] |
| 02:57.53 | Industrial | either I play it really save and just stink autoshot and heal pet with some arcane shots in between and I dont pull aggro |
| 02:58.15 | Industrial | or I steady/auto shot and pull aggro but the mob dies 2 secs after it reaches me |
| 02:58.23 | Industrial | but I do pull it every time :\ |
| 02:58.26 | Corrodias | that's just weird, because i was always able to auto for a few then steady/auto the rest of the way |
| 02:58.27 | Industrial | safe* |
| 02:58.43 | WobWork | Do you let your pet get a few sunders in before letting loose? =) |
| 02:58.55 | Industrial | eh? |
| 02:58.59 | Corrodias | the type of pet shouldn't make that much of a difference, so i really don't know what's going on |
| 02:59.18 | WobWork | You have to let your pet build up some aggro before you let loose |
| 02:59.29 | WobWork | what's your typical attack pattern? |
| 02:59.50 | Corrodias | some, but just until the second growl ought to be plenty |
| 03:00.08 | Industrial | mark+petattack, wait til pet grabs aggro with a few shots preferably crits and a growl |
| 03:00.11 | Industrial | then |
| 03:00.15 | Industrial | DPSDPSDPSDPSDPSDPSDEAD |
| 03:00.29 | Osagasu | Maeg? |
| 03:00.40 | Industrial | huntard \o/ |
| 03:00.49 | Osagasu | No. |
| 03:00.59 | Osagasu | I will eat your face. |
| 03:01.11 | Industrial | You will die before getting there |
| 03:01.18 | Industrial | (:D) |
| 03:01.19 | Osagasu | Especially nezt patch when I can ice block through your Iwin |
| 03:01.22 | Osagasu | **next |
| 03:02.09 | Industrial | WobWork: wish I could tape it ?\ |
| 03:02.11 | Industrial | :\ |
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| 03:03.48 | Industrial | but um |
| 03:03.51 | Industrial | im off to bed nn |
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| 03:22.45 | WobWork | heheh |
| 03:22.46 | WobWork | http://www.sizemore.co.uk/?p=82 |
| 03:26.56 | JoshBorke | nn |
| 03:30.43 | Intangir | how do you override the behavior of a part of blizzards interface |
| 03:30.46 | Intangir | like.. the .. |
| 03:30.52 | Intangir | WorldMapUnitTemplate |
| 03:30.58 | Intangir | this addon has replaced its behavior with its own |
| 03:31.00 | Intangir | but i dont know how |
| 03:31.05 | Intangir | WorldMapUnitTemplate doesnt appear anywhere in the script |
| 03:31.07 | Shirik | hook it |
| 03:31.26 | Shirik | what "behavior" has it replaced? |
| 03:31.50 | Intangir | its changed the icon |
| 03:31.56 | Intangir | and some other junk |
| 03:32.01 | Intangir | but i mainly want to change the icon |
| 03:32.05 | Intangir | if they are in combat i want it to be red |
| 03:32.09 | Intangir | if they are friends i want it to be gree |
| 03:32.12 | Intangir | green |
| 03:32.17 | Intangir | or guildmates |
| 03:32.47 | Intangir | im fairly certain i can do it now, cause partyspotter does some change to it |
| 03:32.48 | Corrodias | so i've been trying to figure out how to play a warlock. it's going... alright, but at level 15 i'm playing it like a hunter, pet tanking and all |
| 03:32.55 | Intangir | everywhere its visible its now a new graphic |
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| 03:57.30 | |Jelly| | why are you crying? |
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| 04:04.14 | malreth | harro, iriel |
| 04:04.34 | Iriel | hola malreth |
| 04:06.26 | malreth | seen the threads about people complaining about their "UI resetting" on them? seems like saved variables not getting written out completely or something. |
| 04:06.51 | Corrodias | all i know is that some default interface options were reset for 2.3 |
| 04:07.16 | |Jelly| | Seen the Post Your UI thread where apparently I was involved in making fun of someone's UI? (When, you know...I wasn't?) :P |
| 04:07.37 | ccox | malreth - there have been many reports about that in various forums |
| 04:08.00 | Corrodias | so i ought to back up my SV, eh? |
| 04:08.27 | ccox | malreth - most that I know of were traced to out of date ACE addons |
| 04:08.33 | Iriel | Hey shirik... |
| 04:08.33 | Iriel | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:08.34 | Iriel | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:08.59 | malreth | you're buying a D300? |
| 04:09.16 | Corrodias | how can ANYONE have out of date ace addons? |
| 04:09.41 | Iriel | I ordered it today, yeah... Finally the Dxxx line got good enough I didn't have to get the Dx (D3 in this case) |
| 04:09.45 | ccox | heck if I know, but they did... |
| 04:10.15 | malreth | i have a canon 400D |
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| 04:10.46 | Iriel | I currently have a D1x, which has apparently heard me talking about the D300 and started acting up. |
| 04:10.56 | malreth | HA! |
| 04:11.00 | Iriel | so it gets a trip to the service center soon |
| 04:11.11 | malreth | gonna use it as a backup body? |
| 04:11.17 | Corrodias | i have some ancient Olympus |
| 04:11.38 | Iriel | malreth: Yeah, it's still a fine camera. |
| 04:12.21 | malreth | what lenses do you have? |
| 04:14.03 | Iriel | I have a 17-35mm AF-S (1:2.8D), 80-400 AF-VR (1:4.5-5.6D) -- both NIKKOR |
| 04:14.18 | Shirik | what happened to everywhere between 35 and 80 :P |
| 04:14.28 | Iriel | And a 180mm 1:3.5 1:1 Tamron Macro |
| 04:14.44 | Iriel | And another tamron which is in the middle somewhere which I practically never use |
| 04:14.55 | Iriel | I tend not to need the middle,. |
| 04:15.15 | malreth | Shirik: you zoom with your feet |
| 04:16.19 | malreth | i've got one lens -- the Sigma 30mm f/1.4 HSM |
| 04:16.41 | malreth | but i'm saving my pennies for the Canon 17-55 f/2.8 |
| 04:17.13 | Iriel | Well, with the $3000 I essentially 'saved' by getting the D300 instead of the D3 I can afford a nice middle lens. |
| 04:17.28 | malreth | haha... 'saved' |
| 04:17.37 | Iriel | That's how I tell myself it was a good idea 8-) |
| 04:17.39 | ccox | mallreth - tell me that after you've been shooting lions |
| 04:17.45 | Iriel | I didn't spend $2000, I saved $3000 ! |
| 04:17.57 | ccox | mallreth - me, I'll stick with my 300mm and 500mm lenses |
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| 04:18.27 | Shirik | Iriel: in arena, will respond in a second about that :P |
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| 04:28.26 | Intangir | can i use png as my textures for my addon? |
| 04:28.29 | Intangir | or do i have to use tga? |
| 04:28.44 | Iriel | TGA or BLP unfortunately |
| 04:28.55 | Intangir | hrm.. |
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| 04:33.12 | sag_ich_nicht | so |
| 04:33.19 | sag_ich_nicht | is 2.3.2 coming this week or not? |
| 04:36.41 | kd3 | since there's been talk of an "upcoming PTR build" I'm inclined to say no |
| 04:36.52 | kd3 | the 10 hour downtime is just getting s3 started afaik |
| 04:40.24 | WobWork | hehe. www.apeturescience.com |
| 04:40.47 | WobWork | type: LOGIN |
| 04:40.53 | WobWork | then CJOHNSON |
| 04:40.59 | WobWork | and TIER3 |
| 04:41.03 | WobWork | for the u/p |
| 04:41.13 | WobWork | then complete the application =) |
| 04:41.21 | Iriel | That's the original teaser site |
| 04:44.29 | Thunder_Child | hmm...the increased XP is nice, but i dont seem to have any more time to play....in what patch is "15% extra play time per day...free!" |
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| 04:47.17 | Shirik | !ap 1583 |
| 04:47.17 | ThraeBot | Shirik: Arena points from a rating of 1583 is, 2v2: 336, 3v3: 389, 5v5: 443 |
| 04:48.30 | Shirik | ok so Iriel |
| 04:48.35 | Shirik | D300 vs D400? |
| 04:49.51 | Iriel | There is no D400.. I suspect you mean Nikon D300 vs Canon 400D? |
| 04:51.05 | Shirik | maybe I'm going insane |
| 04:51.10 | Shirik | I thought that was the latest one? |
| 04:51.33 | Shirik | and where did you find that deal? |
| 04:52.11 | |Jelly| | rofl |
| 04:52.14 | Iriel | The D300 is the latest Nikon and $1,799 is the 'prevailing' price ritz, bhphoto, et al |
| 04:52.20 | Shirik | yeah I saw that price |
| 04:52.22 | |Jelly| | Just updated EQCompare and now it's saying it's incompatible. |
| 04:52.26 | Shirik | where did you get the $800 one? |
| 04:52.45 | Shirik | ahaha |
| 04:52.48 | Shirik | ok, makes more sense now |
| 04:52.51 | Shirik | seeing that extra 1 |
| 04:53.13 | Shirik | Yeah I've seen the $1800s, I think I can afford it I just need to actually double check first :P |
| 04:53.42 | Thunder_Child | 400d is the xti |
| 04:53.43 | Iriel | I got mine with 6 month financing (though you want to pay it off in those 6 months, their finance rate isn't good) |
| 04:53.54 | Thunder_Child | good camera but might as well go with live preview if you can get it |
| 04:53.58 | Shirik | I could easily put it on my visa |
| 04:54.05 | Shirik | 0% APR right now so long as I keep my payments on time |
| 04:54.30 | Thunder_Child | i would go with the 5D if i could get away with it |
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| 04:54.49 | Iriel | As various sources online note, any place offering the camera for less than $1,800 is likely a scam, there's no incentive to cut cost on a brand new camera. |
| 04:54.52 | Thunder_Child | the 1Ds mark III would be way out of my league |
| 04:55.31 | Drea | Hello everyone! |
| 04:55.46 | widgertick | Heya Drea! |
| 04:55.56 | Drea | how the heck are u all doin?? |
| 04:55.59 | Shirik | Iriel: I figured as much :) |
| 04:56.06 | Shirik | Just coming from you I figured you would have done the research |
| 04:56.23 | Shirik | But alas I didn't see that "1" in the front there :P |
| 04:56.42 | Thunder_Child | Shirik, http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/compare_post.asp?method=sidebyside&cameras=canon_eos400d%2Cnikon_d300&show=all |
| 04:56.57 | Shirik | Thunder_Child: Yeah I totally meant nikon 400 which doesn't exist :P |
| 04:57.06 | Thunder_Child | *sigh* |
| 04:57.06 | Shirik | Because I actually was thinking of the D300 |
| 04:57.30 | Thunder_Child | and cannon doesnt have a D400 |
| 04:57.35 | Drea | Sooooo, is there a way, to dynamically create buttons? in an LUA? |
| 04:57.36 | krka | Drea: Lua is not an acronym. It is a portugese word that means moon. |
| 04:57.41 | Drea | argh. i know |
| 04:57.53 | Thunder_Child | auto anoyance ftw |
| 04:57.58 | Drea | lol |
| 04:58.05 | Drea | gets me every time |
| 04:58.14 | Shirik | Then stop doing it! |
| 04:58.18 | Drea | ok ok ok |
| 04:58.23 | Shirik | Or become at peace with krka, he lets me say LUA without feedback :P |
| 04:58.32 | Thunder_Child | LUA |
| 04:58.32 | Drea | he's prolly yours too |
| 04:58.34 | Drea | lol |
| 04:58.45 | Thunder_Child | no, he has it on a 15 min timer or something |
| 04:58.46 | Drea | damn. i guess i just suck |
| 04:58.47 | Thunder_Child | timer* |
| 04:59.08 | Shirik | anyway |
| 04:59.11 | Shirik | dynamically create buttons |
| 04:59.14 | Shirik | !api CreateFrame |
| 04:59.15 | ThraeBot | Shirik: newFrame = CreateFrame("frameType", "frameName", parentFrame[, "inheritsFrame"]); -- http://www.wowwiki.com/API_CreateFrame |
| 04:59.17 | Drea | yeah! |
| 04:59.35 | Thunder_Child | Iriel, what do you think about http://www.sigmaphoto.com/lenses/lenses_all_details.asp?id=3324&navigator=6 |
| 04:59.36 | Drea | so i could in teh XML create a template button, and in the lua do the createframe method. |
| 04:59.41 | Drea | awesome! |
| 04:59.44 | Shirik | one possible argument is, you guessed it, "button" ! |
| 04:59.50 | Thunder_Child | Iriel, as a cross between price and specs |
| 04:59.56 | kd3 | can anyone pull up newegg right now? getting a weird error here |
| 05:00.09 | Drea | i'll lookup CreateFrame |
| 05:00.10 | Thunder_Child | kd3, yes |
| 05:00.11 | Shirik | kd3: I can indeed. |
| 05:00.12 | Thunder_Child | no error |
| 05:00.18 | Drea | Thank you Shirik! |
| 05:00.19 | kd3 | weird |
| 05:00.23 | Shirik | =) |
| 05:00.30 | Shirik | Once you go CreateFrame, you won't go back >:D |
| 05:00.49 | Thunder_Child | "once you ~lart Shirik, you wont go back" |
| 05:00.51 | Drea | Thanks man! |
| 05:00.58 | Drea | :D i luv u! |
| 05:01.05 | Shirik | I think, so far, Conspiracy still has no XML in it... |
| 05:01.30 | Drea | wow, that's some feat! |
| 05:01.37 | Shirik | not really :P |
| 05:01.50 | Drea | well i'm a newbie, lol so yer awesome! |
| 05:01.55 | Iriel | Thunder_Child: the vignetting on 35mm would be a turn off for me, just in case a future camera had a standard sensor |
| 05:02.14 | Thunder_Child | Iriel, you mean full frame? |
| 05:02.15 | Drea | don't know what i'd do without ya'll in ehre helpin me out. :d |
| 05:02.48 | Shirik | http://wowi.pastey.net/78101 No XML! |
| 05:03.14 | kd3 | oh, this is evil... http://desertbus.org/ |
| 05:03.45 | Iriel | Thunder_Child: Yes, if you mean sensor size. |
| 05:04.05 | Intangir | how do i comment out a huge block of code in lua |
| 05:04.30 | Iriel | --[[ ]] |
| 05:04.33 | Thunder_Child | Iriel, yes as in full frame = 35mm film size |
| 05:04.41 | Iriel | Yeah, then I mean that. |
| 05:04.46 | Thunder_Child | ok |
| 05:09.37 | MentalPower|AFK | unless you want to validate, regex would not be that diff |
| 05:09.48 | Shirik | not using regexes :P |
| 05:09.49 | MentalPower|AFK | and Stubby uses that kind of comments |
| 05:10.07 | Drea | what does teh new inheritFrame do? |
| 05:10.10 | Shirik | I know exactly what I need to do, really, I've just ignored it for now |
| 05:10.22 | Shirik | exactly what you said earlier Drea |
| 05:10.27 | Shirik | if you made a template in XML you can inherit it |
| 05:10.33 | Shirik | (or inherit Blizzard-defined templates) |
| 05:12.18 | Drea | oh, right on. just so i understand, the syntax. it's CreateFrame("Button", "Step " .. i, UIParent[, buttontemplate]); right? |
| 05:13.01 | Shirik | if you want it to be a child of UIParent, yes |
| 05:13.18 | Drea | i don't really . |
| 05:13.27 | Drea | just not sure how to do it otherwise. lol' |
| 05:13.28 | Shirik | what do you want it to be a child of? |
| 05:13.49 | Drea | I would say, the frame it's goin to sit on. |
| 05:14.00 | Shirik | then you put the frame there :) |
| 05:14.17 | Drea | ok.right on |
| 05:14.49 | Shirik | btw if you do not pass 3 arguments, it defaults to UIParent |
| 05:14.56 | Shirik | however, passing nil is NOT the same as ignoring it :) |
| 05:15.03 | Shirik | that is, passing nil will result in no parent |
| 05:15.11 | Drea | i don't suppose it would hurt anythin to have it a child of uiparent |
| 05:15.25 | Shirik | it wouldn't, and most frames are children of UIParent |
| 05:15.36 | widgertick | I wish Omen didn't use SVN revision numbers for versioning, when it's constantly being developed and thus there's almost always a new "version" |
| 05:16.15 | Shirik | You have r50239. Someone else has r50240. You must be severely out of date and will die if you don't update now!! |
| 05:16.27 | widgertick | YES |
| 05:16.29 | Drea | OMG that happened to me today! |
| 05:16.30 | widgertick | *explodes* |
| 05:16.31 | Drea | I died! |
| 05:16.56 | Drea | then again i was the only one wtih omen installed. |
| 05:17.05 | Shirik | @@ 121 ++ (some comment, nothing more) |
| 05:17.07 | Shirik | heh |
| 05:17.35 | Drea | hehe |
| 05:17.39 | Drea | ok off to give this a whirl. |
| 05:22.15 | Thunder_Child | *sigh* i dont want to pay $2,100 for 1 lens..... |
| 05:22.35 | Shirik | heh |
| 05:22.37 | Shirik | what lens? |
| 05:22.55 | Thunder_Child | EF 28-300mm f/3.5-5.6L IS USM |
| 05:23.08 | Shirik | 28-300 =( |
| 05:23.34 | Thunder_Child | it's canons l series...it works fine |
| 05:23.39 | Thunder_Child | s/l/L/ |
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| 05:25.08 | Thunder_Child | although the 3.68 pounds that it weighs does not make it all that favorable |
| 05:31.17 | Iriel | My 80-400mm is 'only' 2.94 lbs |
| 05:32.28 | Iriel | That thing's got to have a lot of glass going on |
| 05:33.18 | Shirik | yeah my 80-300 is about the same |
| 05:33.34 | Thunder_Child | ya, at some point i would like to move up to full frame...so there goes that one |
| 05:33.42 | Iriel | Hm, 0.7m closest focus is nice |
| 05:33.54 | Iriel | mine's about 7 feet |
| 05:35.07 | Iriel | The weight isn't that bad when you compare to a wide angle PLUS a telephoto |
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| 05:35.39 | Thunder_Child | but not something you really want to tote around at a party |
| 05:35.52 | Iriel | Well, no, and you'd take someone's eye out |
| 05:36.09 | Thunder_Child | prolly my own trying not to hit someone |
| 05:36.49 | Thunder_Child | all i want is low f-stop/IS(or similar) with some zoom |
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| 05:40.09 | Thunder_Child | Iriel, http://www.tamron.com/lenses/prod/28300_vc.asp ? |
| 05:40.58 | Thunder_Child | bah, nvm |
| 05:45.08 | MentalPower|AFK | kd3: http://desertbus.org/ is cruel, but fun to watch |
| 05:45.31 | kd3 | yes, yes it is |
| 05:45.39 | Shirik | I don't get the site |
| 05:45.40 | Shirik | what is it? |
| 05:46.35 | kd3 | have you not heard of the "game" "desert bus"? |
| 05:46.37 | MentalPower|AFK | they are playing this *very boring* game, to get people to donate to http://www.childsplaycharity.org/ |
| 05:47.00 | Shirik | kd3: no =( |
| 05:47.07 | kd3 | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Desert_Bus |
| 05:47.16 | Shirik | in instance, will check later |
| 05:47.30 | Thunder_Child | whats the name of the goggles that turned everyone into a gnome? |
| 05:47.48 | kd3 | bebi's romance enhancing goggles |
| 05:47.56 | Thunder_Child | k, thanks |
| 05:47.58 | kd3 | iirc |
| 05:48.24 | kd3 | http://www.wowhead.com/?search=romance |
| 05:50.14 | Drea | gah. |
| 05:51.21 | Drea | i'm so gonna cry. lol |
| 05:51.47 | Drea | why can't scrolling frames be simple?? |
| 05:52.38 | Thunder_Child | because if they were then everyone would be doing it |
| 05:53.00 | Drea | i suppose that's true. well dangit, i'm gonna be l33t when i figure the darn things out. |
| 05:53.37 | MentalPower|AFK | scrolling frames are easy |
| 05:53.46 | MentalPower|AFK | whats the issue? |
| 05:54.20 | Thunder_Child | huh...i dont remeber scrolling frames synonomis with l33t...i mean, if MentalPower can do them.... |
| 05:55.37 | MentalPower|AFK | ~lart Thunder_Child |
| 05:55.37 | purl | whacks Thunder_Child upside the head |
| 05:55.55 | Drea | well, i have a frame, that has the scrollbar all setup, i want to populate it with a dynamic number of buttons, that say Step 1 to whatever. |
| 05:56.06 | Drea | and it will need to scroll thru the list of steps. |
| 05:57.28 | MentalPower|AFK | Q will this be a simple scroll frame or the kind that only shows part of the frame at a time? |
| 05:57.58 | Drea | heck, i dunno, all i've been able to figure out partially is a fauxscrollframe, |
| 05:58.20 | Drea | i want just a simple scrollframe. but... lol |
| 05:58.30 | MentalPower|AFK | are you trying to do something like the AH list? |
| 05:58.42 | Drea | sure that'll work. |
| 05:58.44 | Drea | :D |
| 05:58.55 | Drea | i was usin the Friends list as a template |
| 05:58.57 | MentalPower|AFK | then all you need is a scrollbar |
| 05:59.35 | MentalPower|AFK | setup the scrollbar and on the <OnValueChanged> handler do your re-painting of the contents of the list |
| 06:00.21 | Drea | yup. i had it all setup as the FSF but couldn't figure out how to dynamically add the buttons, when u click an option in the dropdown. |
| 06:00.43 | MentalPower|AFK | dropdown? |
| 06:00.47 | Drea | it's each one has different amounts of steps. |
| 06:01.28 | Kelfar | LOL i just got 6 motes of fire from one fel iron node!!! |
| 06:01.36 | MentalPower|AFK | wait, you said a list tho |
| 06:01.42 | Drea | yeah, it's got 2 dropdowns, which work great. and when u click an option in the second dropdown, it opens a list of steps. |
| 06:02.29 | MentalPower|AFK | as another dropdown? |
| 06:02.35 | Drea | each option has a different number of steps. |
| 06:02.41 | Drea | nope. |
| 06:02.54 | Drea | as a scrollable list below the dropdowns |
| 06:03.20 | MentalPower|AFK | ok, then I'll forget about the dropdowns since its not important |
| 06:03.24 | Drea | yup |
| 06:03.54 | MentalPower|AFK | are you doing XML or Lua frames? |
| 06:04.05 | bleeter | art3mis: sad thing is, that convo seems to have reared it's ugly head on IRC about every 3 months for the past... well... longer than I care to recall (>10 years) |
| 06:04.40 | Drea | i have made a template in the XML for the button, and i'm just gonna do createframe for the dynamic list |
| 06:05.06 | bleeter | MentalPower|AFK: a ping from a paste around 5 hours ago from art3mis |
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| 06:05.20 | MentalPower|AFK | ah, k |
| 06:05.26 | MentalPower|AFK | I'm not going to bother then |
| 06:05.36 | bleeter | nope, def not worth it |
| 06:06.58 | MentalPower|AFK | !api CreateFrame |
| 06:06.59 | ThraeBot | MentalPower|AFK: newFrame = CreateFrame("frameType", "frameName", parentFrame[, "inheritsFrame"]); -- http://www.wowwiki.com/API_CreateFrame |
| 06:07.14 | MentalPower|AFK | Drea: then do "for i=1, n do CreateFrame('Frame', blah, blah, 'template') end" |
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| 06:07.33 | MentalPower|AFK | or is it something else thats not working? |
| 06:07.47 | MentalPower|AFK | ofc, you should reuse the frames that you already have |
| 06:08.22 | MentalPower|AFK | so perhaps something like "for i=1, n do if (not _G[frameName]) then CreateFrame('Frame', frameName, blah, 'template') end end" |
| 06:08.24 | Drea | hmm. that's what i had goin, but the tutorial, is talkin about showin and hidin etc. in the update. |
| 06:08.50 | Drea | maybe it's just gettin late and my brains freezein |
| 06:08.57 | MentalPower|AFK | ah, one sec |
| 06:11.20 | MentalPower|AFK | I was under the impression that FSF took care of that for you |
| 06:12.09 | Drea | well, the tutorial don't seem to think so. course the code don't work in the tut so.. lol |
| 06:13.13 | Shirik | lua> return getglobal; |
| 06:13.13 | lua_bot | Shirik: function: 0x80c1bf8 |
| 06:13.20 | Shirik | lua> return string.dump(getglobal) |
| 06:13.20 | lua_bot | Shirik: LuaQ |
| 06:13.27 | Shirik | bleh, that's not a good conparison |
| 06:13.56 | MentalPower|AFK | Shirik: what are you looking for? |
| 06:14.06 | Shirik | I want to see if _G is faster than getglobal |
| 06:14.13 | Iriel | it is |
| 06:14.15 | Shirik | but I thought getglobal was in C |
| 06:14.17 | Iriel | it has to be |
| 06:14.34 | Shirik | if getglobal's written in Lua I totally understand that |
| 06:14.46 | Iriel | I'm not sure if it is in lua in wow or not at the moment |
| 06:14.56 | Iriel | we didn't used to have _G or getfenv tho |
| 06:15.00 | Iriel | so it used to be the only choice |
| 06:15.05 | Shirik | it says "unable to dump" so I would assume it's in C |
| 06:15.14 | Iriel | probably, or it has an upvalue |
| 06:15.26 | MentalPower|AFK | Shirik: getglobal(something) is a lookup in the global table, a call to that function, a stack pop, a lookup in the global table and a stack push and return |
| 06:15.49 | MentalPower|AFK | _G[something] is just a global table lookup for _G and then a key search in that table |
| 06:15.56 | Shirik | well aware of that |
| 06:16.05 | Shirik | but doing things in C can be faster than Lua |
| 06:16.13 | Iriel | Yes but |
| 06:16.16 | Shirik | take strcat for a simplistic example :) |
| 06:16.29 | Iriel | getting TO _G takes as long as getting to getglobal |
| 06:16.33 | MentalPower|AFK | yes, but even in C you still have to do Lua stuff to get to C |
| 06:16.34 | Shirik | right |
| 06:16.36 | Iriel | and the internal table lookup is just as slow |
| 06:16.37 | Shirik | ah |
| 06:16.41 | Drea | man i'm just not thinkin straight, i'm gonna have to get back to this tommorrow. thanks bunches mental. :D |
| 06:16.41 | Shirik | Iriel yeah you're right |
| 06:16.47 | Iriel | so anything C does on top of that is overhead |
| 06:16.50 | Shirik | I ignored the lookup to getglobal |
| 06:16.51 | MentalPower|AFK | Drea: if not then in the <OnValueChanged> function check the value of slider:GetValue() and then calculate the offset with that |
| 06:17.01 | Shirik | so you're right, it's impossible |
| 06:17.08 | MentalPower|AFK | Drea: once you get the offset you can decide what to show/hide and what to update |
| 06:17.15 | Shirik | but what if I did local getglobal = getglobal :D |
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| 06:17.25 | Iriel | What if you do local _G = _G |
| 06:17.28 | Shirik | ok |
| 06:17.29 | Shirik | fair enough :P |
| 06:17.56 | Iriel | both function calls and table lookups are damn fast, but I couldn't predict whether local getglobal would be better than global _G[x] |
| 06:18.23 | MentalPower|AFK | lua>debugprofilestop |
| 06:18.23 | lua_bot | MentalPower|AFK: nil |
| 06:18.27 | Drea | check, thanks again menal. :d |
| 06:18.29 | MentalPower|AFK | didn't think so |
| 06:18.35 | Drea | mental. lol |
| 06:18.43 | MentalPower|AFK | Drea: np, anytime |
| 06:18.56 | Shirik | lua> os.time(), GetTime() |
| 06:18.56 | lua_bot | Shirik: [string "return os.time(), GetTime()"]:1: attempt to call global 'GetTime' (a nil value) |
| 06:19.03 | Shirik | lua> return os.time() |
| 06:19.03 | lua_bot | Shirik: 1196144343 |
| 06:19.14 | Shirik | we could do a ton of iterations :D |
| 06:19.25 | Shirik | but we only have 5 seconds to work with =( |
| 06:19.43 | Shirik | wtb VxWorks timing functions |
| 06:20.12 | Shirik | in any case it doesn't matter |
| 06:20.19 | Shirik | a local _G would be the obvious anwer |
| 06:20.51 | MentalPower|AFK | anyways, gnight all |
| 06:21.04 | Shirik | night |
| 06:23.28 | Intangir | how do i test if my target is hostile in lua script |
| 06:23.58 | MentalPower|ZzZz | !api UnitIsHostile |
| 06:23.59 | ThraeBot | MentalPower|ZzZz: Could not find a relevant page. Perhaps you could be so kind as to create one? http://www.wowwiki.com/API_UnitIsHostile |
| 06:24.03 | MentalPower|ZzZz | hmm... |
| 06:24.10 | MentalPower|ZzZz | !api UnitReaction |
| 06:24.11 | ThraeBot | MentalPower|ZzZz: reaction = UnitReaction("unit", "otherUnit"); -- http://www.wowwiki.com/API_UnitReaction |
| 06:24.15 | MentalPower|ZzZz | there we go |
| 06:29.34 | Intangir | check this out.. |
| 06:29.39 | Intangir | on UnitInRaid |
| 06:29.39 | Intangir | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:29.43 | Intangir | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:29.52 | Intangir | so it says it wont work on people in a battleground.. |
| 06:30.01 | Intangir | but the next line says, it will give the # they are in in the battleground.. |
| 06:30.08 | Intangir | wtf? |
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| 06:32.08 | Intangir | ugg.. im a total freaking lua newb.. |
| 06:32.20 | Intangir | does != work? |
| 06:32.25 | |Jelly| | ~= |
| 06:33.31 | Intangir | that means not equal? |
| 06:33.37 | |Jelly| | Yes |
| 06:33.43 | Intangir | thx |
| 06:33.54 | Intangir | hehehe i keep justl ooking around in the file im trying to mess with |
| 06:36.04 | Intangir | how do i test if a unit i have saved in a variable is my target.. |
| 06:36.13 | Intangir | unitButton.unit == "target" ? |
| 06:38.13 | Iriel | What do you mean 'unit you have in a saved variable' ? |
| 06:38.27 | Iriel | YOu can test if 2 unit ids refer to the same 'thing' with UnitIsUnit |
| 06:38.28 | Iriel | e.g. |
| 06:38.28 | Intangir | i have a .. unit i guess saved in unitButton.unit |
| 06:38.35 | Intangir | ya i think thats it |
| 06:38.38 | Iriel | UnitIsUnit("party2", "target") |
| 06:39.05 | Intangir | UnitIsUnit(unitButton.unit,"target") |
| 06:39.06 | Iriel | But bear in mind a unit is just a string, so if you "save" target now, and then compare later, you'd be comparing "target" to "target" and both are the CURRENT target |
| 06:39.32 | Intangir | hrm.. |
| 06:39.45 | Iriel | The other possibility is UnitName("target") == someName |
| 06:39.53 | Iriel | but that's not unambiguous |
| 06:39.59 | Iriel | depends what you're trying to do really |
| 06:40.04 | Intangir | it saves it like this.. |
| 06:40.05 | Intangir | this.unit = "raid"..this:GetID(); |
| 06:40.19 | Intangir | so i guess it would be .. like raid4 or something vs target |
| 06:40.20 | Shirik | this is evil! |
| 06:40.22 | Iriel | ah, then you'll be fine as long as you update when the raid shifts around |
| 06:40.22 | Intangir | so i guess it should work right? |
| 06:40.41 | Intangir | im getting it off of a blizzard object, id assume it updates well |
| 06:40.42 | Intangir | i hope.. |
| 06:40.56 | Intangir | basically im trying to findi f my target is a party member |
| 06:40.57 | Intangir | or raid member |
| 06:40.58 | Intangir | and what# |
| 06:40.59 | Shirik | I would assume that "self" and "this" update at the same rate |
| 06:41.04 | Shirik | given that they reference the same object |
| 06:42.49 | Iriel | well, 'this' is a global, and 'self' is a local if you're in normal XML handlers or declared your handlers properly |
| 07:02.29 | batrick | Iriel, I dunno if clad told you but Roberto asks if ou can explain your patch |
| 07:03.11 | Iriel | batrick: Clad emailed me and I sent him back details |
| 07:03.17 | batrick | ok |
| 07:10.08 | Corrodias | draenei starting area >> dwarf/gnome starting area |
| 07:10.12 | Corrodias | >>> maybe |
| 07:10.25 | batrick | sif |
| 07:10.33 | Shirik | ~wtf sif |
| 07:10.40 | Shirik | ~sif |
| 07:10.44 | Corrodias | maybe it's sift |
| 07:10.48 | Corrodias | but ghetto |
| 07:10.49 | batrick | sif = as if |
| 07:10.52 | batrick | keep up! |
| 07:10.58 | Shirik | you're like |
| 07:11.01 | Corrodias | no, i'm pretty sure it's sift |
| 07:11.02 | Shirik | the only one I've ever seen use it |
| 07:11.04 | Shirik | and I've ignored it until now |
| 07:11.11 | Corrodias | you're telling me to sift the truth from the lies |
| 07:11.11 | batrick | lol |
| 07:11.17 | batrick | it's aussie lant |
| 07:11.19 | batrick | lang* |
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| 07:11.42 | Corrodias | i estimate these goats have 2 to 3 times as many quests |
| 07:11.44 | Shirik | aussies suck anyway |
| 07:11.50 | batrick | no u |
| 07:11.54 | batrick | !8ball is it true? |
| 07:11.54 | batbot | batrick, Are you kidding? |
| 07:11.57 | Corrodias | although they take you to like level 20 instead of 18 |
| 07:12.00 | batrick | man |
| 07:12.04 | batrick | I always get that one |
| 07:12.10 | Shirik | batbot: Do aussies suck? |
| 07:12.10 | batbot | Shirik, As I see it, yes. |
| 07:12.13 | Shirik | exactly. |
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| 07:12.19 | Shirik | Even your OWN BOT agrees. |
| 07:12.27 | batrick | my bot is known to lie |
| 07:12.30 | batrick | batbot: r u a liar? |
| 07:12.30 | batbot | batrick, Keep dreaming. |
| 07:12.31 | Corrodias | !8ball is my gnome sufficiently bouncy? |
| 07:12.31 | batbot | Corrodias, Keep dreaming. |
| 07:12.38 | batrick | jeeze |
| 07:12.41 | Corrodias | shit, gotta practice that bounce |
| 07:12.42 | batrick | random is broken |
| 07:12.51 | Shirik | you fail as a programmer |
| 07:12.59 | Shirik | would you like my 68HCS12 implementation of MT1337? |
| 07:13.00 | Shirik | er |
| 07:13.04 | Shirik | MT19937* |
| 07:13.04 | Shirik | haha |
| 07:13.08 | Shirik | MT1337 = awesome |
| 07:13.11 | batrick | --> math.randomseed(os.time()) |
| 07:13.25 | batrick | o ya? |
| 07:13.38 | batrick | lhf made an implementation of the mersenne twister |
| 07:13.50 | Shirik | isn't that how Lua gets its numbers? |
| 07:13.57 | batrick | no? |
| 07:14.00 | Shirik | no? |
| 07:14.04 | batrick | they use C's std library |
| 07:14.16 | Shirik | oh |
| 07:14.21 | batrick | almost all the libary functions are C functions |
| 07:14.30 | Shirik | well most implementations of the standard library use mersenne twister anyway :P |
| 07:14.40 | Shirik | it's one of the most popular algorithms |
| 07:14.53 | batrick | No, ANSI C uses mods |
| 07:14.55 | Corrodias | math.randomseed(new Lamb(LAMB_EXPERIENCE_VIRGIN).sacrifice()) |
| 07:14.59 | Shirik | and fairly easy to code... The only trouble I had was doing 32 bit multiplication |
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| 07:15.03 | Shirik | which was a pain in the neck |
| 07:15.42 | amro | good morning! |
| 07:15.44 | batrick | linear congruential generator is what they're called |
| 07:15.48 | batrick | :) |
| 07:17.18 | batrick | hmm |
| 07:17.28 | batrick | I wonder if randomseed is global |
| 07:17.48 | Shirik | --> randomseed |
| 07:17.48 | batbot | Shirik: > nil |
| 07:17.52 | Shirik | apparently not |
| 07:17.55 | batrick | no |
| 07:18.01 | batrick | I mean across Lua_states |
| 07:18.55 | Shirik | heh |
| 07:18.58 | Shirik | randomseed is one line of code |
| 07:18.59 | Shirik | srand(luaL_checkint(L, 1)); |
| 07:19.25 | Shirik | which implies it must be global, since the C standard only defines one generator |
| 07:19.40 | batrick | yes |
| 07:21.16 | batrick | Iriel: are strings created not global across Lua_states? |
| 07:21.38 | batrick | I noticed if I made and returned a really large string from one state to another it seems to be recreated (beacause of time) |
| 07:21.51 | Shirik | this actually also brings up another issue |
| 07:22.00 | Shirik | the C standard random() function is not reentrant |
| 07:22.04 | Shirik | er, rand() |
| 07:23.10 | Corrodias | reentrant? |
| 07:23.15 | Shirik | I guess defining lua_lock() should be sufficient to deal with that |
| 07:23.26 | Corrodias | wow, right over my head now |
| 07:23.27 | Shirik | Corrodias: That means you cannot be in rand() and then call rand() again while inside it |
| 07:23.36 | Shirik | Which seems illogical at first |
| 07:23.37 | Corrodias | you can't? why not? |
| 07:23.50 | batrick | you can |
| 07:23.52 | Iriel | The string table is in the global state |
| 07:23.55 | batrick | you'll just get unexpected behaviour |
| 07:23.56 | Shirik | But when you have multithreaded applications where two applications might call rand() at the same time, you have a problem |
| 07:24.21 | Iriel | also, lua isn't necessarily threadsafe, I would imagine a threaded lua implementation replaces things like that with locked or per-thread implementations. |
| 07:24.23 | Shirik | Corrodias: Because the state is stored internally. Calling rand() while inside rand() will cause undefined behavior with regards to its state |
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| 07:24.32 | Wobin | hehe |
| 07:24.33 | Wobin | http://www.positivethinkers.net/images/sust11262007.gif |
| 07:24.47 | Corrodias | i guess this conversation depends on 1) knowing how rand() is written and 2) knowing why that's different from most functions |
| 07:24.49 | Shirik | Iriel: As far as I'm aware, they explicitly tell people it's not thread safe :) |
| 07:24.55 | Shirik | however there are usually easy ways to get around it |
| 07:25.05 | Shirik | the #1 method I'm aware of is just defining lua_lock, in lua_conf.h |
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| 07:25.29 | batrick | well LuaTask does it |
| 07:25.55 | batrick | --> x=("x"):rep(1e7) |
| 07:26.03 | reqol | is there ANY WAY to cast an ability with script since castspellbyname was protected? |
| 07:26.33 | Shirik | sorry, it's in llimits.h |
| 07:26.35 | Iriel | reqol: No. |
| 07:26.49 | Shirik | reqol: Depends on how you define "cast an ability with script" |
| 07:26.54 | Iriel | reqol: Closest is to SetAttribute on a secure action button then /click it from a macro |
| 07:26.55 | Shirik | and "any way" |
| 07:27.23 | Shirik | you could modify the bytecode of the WoW.exe executable to cause all code to become secure somehow |
| 07:27.34 | Wobin | bleeter: Vote 1 Mr Behemoth as Australia's Political Correspondent. http://mrbehemoth.livejournal.com/305673.html |
| 07:27.36 | Shirik | that's a way |
| 07:27.40 | Intangir | are lua variable names case sensative? |
| 07:27.41 | Shirik | please don't do that, bytw |
| 07:27.43 | Shirik | btw* |
| 07:27.47 | Shirik | Intangir: yes |
| 07:27.52 | Cairenn | post - "Why I'll never use a 3rd party add-on. |
| 07:27.52 | Cairenn | Unless Blizz says "We approve of this web site and/or *sugh and such* addon" " |
| 07:27.52 | Cairenn | response - http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/community/fansites.html |
| 07:28.24 | Corrodias | i can't imagine their "why" list is very long |
| 07:28.27 | Intangir | what about 'unit' names? |
| 07:28.28 | reqol | i'm new to this so please bear with me |
| 07:28.35 | Intangir | like UnitExists("Target"); |
| 07:28.38 | Cairenn | (sorry for the minor interruption) |
| 07:28.39 | Intangir | is that the same as "target" ? |
| 07:28.44 | reqol | how exactly do you cast a spell in an addon that uses click casting, then? |
| 07:29.03 | Shirik | reqol: You create a secure frame and then set its attributes |
| 07:29.12 | Shirik | the attributes tell the Blizzard code that you want it to call CastSpellByName |
| 07:29.18 | Intangir | guys? |
| 07:29.24 | Shirik | Intangir: Yes |
| 07:29.36 | Shirik | wait, didn't they change that recently? |
| 07:29.39 | Intangir | its the same then? |
| 07:29.41 | Shirik | all unit ids must now be all lowercase |
| 07:29.41 | Wobin | Cairenn: pwned =) |
| 07:29.45 | Shirik | but in most cases, yes it's the same |
| 07:29.57 | Intangir | for real? damn...? .. |
| 07:30.02 | Shirik | CreateFrame"FRAME" and CreateFrame"frame" are both valid |
| 07:30.26 | reqol | I want to set something up so that if the spell is usable it will stop casting, otherwise it won't, I'm guessing this is not possible |
| 07:30.37 | reqol | I.E. if a spell is on cooldown, it won't stop casting |
| 07:31.01 | Corrodias | well, yeah, that's the normal behavior |
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| 07:31.09 | reqol | ? |
| 07:31.18 | Shirik | reqol: http://wowwiki.com/Secure_Frames_Overview |
| 07:31.21 | bleeter | OUCH! http://www.theregister.co.uk/2007/11/26/wpad_vuln_investigated/ |
| 07:31.28 | Corrodias | normally, when you try to cast a spell that is on cooldown, it doesn't work. |
| 07:31.34 | reqol | no no, here's an example: |
| 07:31.55 | reqol | if counterspell is on cooldown, it won't stop casting my current spell and then cast counterspell, otherwise it will |
| 07:32.13 | Shirik | isn't that normal? |
| 07:32.28 | reqol | like /stopcasting in a macro is what I mean |
| 07:32.39 | Corrodias | i see. well, a conditional based on the availability of a spell is not possible |
| 07:33.56 | Wobin | http://rrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr.ytmnd.com/ |
| 07:33.57 | ccox | (as if we needed more proof that Windows was insecure?) |
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| 07:35.31 | reqol | Shirik: thanks for that link, very informative |
| 07:35.45 | batrick | it's seems like in LuaTask there must be different string tables, I don't understand why |
| 07:35.52 | cladhaire | Iriel: Thanks, all sent |
| 07:35.56 | reqol | are the ace libraries a good platform to develop with? do they make development that much easier? |
| 07:36.00 | Iriel | cladhaire: yay |
| 07:37.47 | Shirik | reqol: If you don't know the roots of the API, I would strongly advise not using it |
| 07:37.57 | Shirik | it is generally a bad idea to be coding with something when you don't know how it works |
| 07:38.01 | Corrodias | they -can- make things easier, but you really ought to understand how it works first |
| 07:38.20 | |Jelly| | Ace Conspiracy. |
| 07:38.41 | Shirik | Conspiracy will not be aced dmanit |
| 07:38.46 | Wobin | Ace3? =) |
| 07:38.47 | |Jelly| | :P |
| 07:38.48 | reqol | I want to make a fubar addon is all |
| 07:39.22 | Wobin | PS: http://i240.photobucket.com/albums/ff163/deapea3/friedoreo.jpg |
| 07:39.26 | Wobin | dear god |
| 07:39.29 | Wobin | deep fried oreo |
| 07:39.36 | Wobin | You americans are crazy |
| 07:39.50 | cladhaire | they are yummy |
| 07:39.50 | Corrodias | conspiracy.. unfamiliar. |
| 07:39.53 | cladhaire | :P |
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| 07:40.13 | kd3 | wth? I'm going to pass sight-unseen on a "deep-fried oreo" |
| 07:40.27 | Shirik | conspiracy is unfamiliar because it is not released yet :P |
| 07:40.31 | Shirik | It's not even in open alpha yet |
| 07:40.31 | Wobin | reqol: You generally don't need to have your whole addon Ace or Rock for it to have fubar functionality |
| 07:40.43 | Wobin | reqol: You just need to 'add' it on after you're done |
| 07:40.51 | Cairenn | reqol: incredibly out of date, but this may help: http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info4984-FuBarPlugin-2.0.html |
| 07:41.16 | Cairenn | (I'll leave all the debate to everyone else on whether or not you *should*) |
| 07:41.21 | reqol | are there any escape sequences in lua? |
| 07:41.42 | Wobin | Cairenn: Well, wanting to make a FuBar plugin is fairly straightforward |
| 07:41.49 | Corrodias | the butterfly effect! i never saw it! |
| 07:41.59 | Wobin | the movie or the band? |
| 07:42.07 | reqol | I just want to make myself a portal addon, and since I use fubar it's a good place to attach it to |
| 07:42.19 | Wobin | reqol: The cake is a lie =( |
| 07:42.24 | Shirik | reqol: depends on where you are |
| 07:42.26 | Shirik | either \ or % |
| 07:42.34 | Wobin | Although I totally have to write a portal addon now with a cake as the icon |
| 07:42.40 | reqol | haha |
| 07:42.43 | Corrodias | movie |
| 07:42.43 | reqol | mind if I steal that idea? |
| 07:42.48 | Wobin | go for it =) |
| 07:42.58 | reqol | seriously though, portal was an excellent game |
| 07:43.00 | Corrodias | the portal is a lie |
| 07:43.09 | Corrodias | it sends you to darnassus |
| 07:43.15 | Shirik | too bad there's no way to modify the game world |
| 07:43.23 | Corrodias | why's that? |
| 07:43.25 | Shirik | making a blue mage portal and a orangep ortal where you came out |
| 07:43.26 | Wobin | reqol: So very very very true |
| 07:43.31 | Wobin | Shirik: hehe |
| 07:43.46 | reqol | now in order to have the drop down menu in fubar be able to cast portals, it has to be secure? or am I way off base |
| 07:43.48 | Shirik | I mean hell, the first half is already done |
| 07:43.51 | Shirik | you can see where you're going, too |
| 07:44.14 | ccox | (proving that the mage is an even bigger geek than normal?) |
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| 07:44.36 | Mike-N-Go | Why do corpses stay in the air when they die? |
| 07:45.13 | ccox | because the dead do not notice gravity |
| 07:45.41 | Wobin | reqol: Shouldn't be a problem, since you can't cast portals in combat? Or can you? |
| 07:46.50 | Corrodias | i have no idea |
| 07:48.24 | reqol | no you can't |
| 07:49.17 | reqol | so how do I cast spells out of combat? |
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| 07:52.31 | bleeter | Mike-N-Go: what's even more bizzare, is that a bird (eg, Skettis) can get frozen in mid air such that it doesn't flap it's wings.. yet it stays in the air and not sink like a stone ;) |
| 07:55.07 | Mike-N-Go | This is the answer. |
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| 07:55.34 | Mike-N-Go | Because flying is like a cheep forum of swimming, but only while mounted. |
| 07:56.30 | Wobin | if you dismount midair, you 'swim' for a short while before normal gravity takes hold |
| 07:56.35 | Mike-N-Go | So, like when a corpse dies midair, it stays there, as if it were swimming. |
| 07:57.01 | Mike-N-Go | Wobin: Even cooler, dismount from your epic flyer when you have lag, you will swim at epic speeds. |
| 07:57.58 | reqol | not to seem impatient, but I'll say this again in case no one noticed it: Wobin: why would it matter if it were casted in combat or not? |
| 07:58.06 | reqol | is there a way to cast a spell so long as you are not in combat? |
| 07:58.09 | Corrodias | reqol: i also don't know how you cast spells out of combat |
| 07:58.20 | Wobin | reqol: You asked about secure frames |
| 07:58.24 | Iriel | reqol: No, you can change which spell a button will cast when out of combat, but not in combat |
| 07:58.27 | Wobin | you only need those if you're doing actions in combat |
| 07:58.32 | Iriel | you still can't CAST it programatically, someone has to hit a button |
| 07:58.50 | reqol | or click something? |
| 07:58.59 | Iriel | yeah |
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| 08:00.28 | reqol | so how would I cast something when someone clicks it if I can't cast it programatically? is there an attribute that sets what it casts when clicked on? |
| 08:01.50 | cladhaire | yes, thats exactly how it works |
| 08:01.52 | zenzio | so it's 9:00 in the morning... the company Iwork for has seven employees. One is hired our as a consultant for someone else, three are out of town for a meeting, one is in town for a meeting, one is home sick... so I'm left alone in here trying to adjust to the strength of my new glasses x.x |
| 08:02.08 | cogwheel | reqol: you can use a PreClick handler to change the spell attribute before the OnClick handler gets a chance to cast the spell |
| 08:02.14 | cogwheel | but only out of combat |
| 08:02.47 | cladhaire | if it helps, i have a small addon that does just that |
| 08:02.48 | cladhaire | one moment. |
| 08:03.16 | cladhaire | http://cladhaire.pastey.net/78113 |
| 08:03.19 | cladhaire | if pastey will load it |
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| 08:03.23 | cladhaire | if not, i'll post elsewhere. |
| 08:04.14 | Saeris_ | pastey seems to be having trouble. |
| 08:04.40 | Cairenn | yeah, the server migration didn't go as smoothly as the #norganna crew would have liked |
| 08:04.59 | Cairenn | seems to still be having some hangups here and there |
| 08:05.12 | cladhaire | to be fair pastebin.ca isn't doing much better :P |
| 08:05.26 | Cairenn | (for the record, server migrations tend to suck at the best of times) |
| 08:05.39 | cladhaire | zenzio: http://rafb.net/p/2yr0XM53.html for example |
| 08:06.51 | Cairenn | ah well, that's to worry about another day - night guys |
| 08:07.26 | batrick | night |
| 08:07.56 | zenzio | think you got the name wrong there o_O |
| 08:08.07 | cladhaire | sorry |
| 08:08.19 | cladhaire | reqol: http://rafb.net/p/2yr0XM53.html is Buffy, which allows me to single buff an entire AV raid, when out of combat |
| 08:08.21 | cladhaire | as a priest |
| 08:08.33 | cladhaire | it could be modified to work for other classes, by editing the table at the top |
| 08:11.38 | cladhaire | how unfortunate |
| 08:11.46 | cladhaire | gmail's "Older Version" doesn't work for me this morning |
| 08:12.49 | cogwheel | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=3159756421 |
| 08:13.13 | cogwheel | ^ arbitrary sequences of arbitrarily long macros =) |
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| 08:13.32 | Saeris_ | Once 2.3.2's [bonusbar] macro condition goes live, would http://rafb.net/p/sG1fy410.html work to have the ActionButtons 1 through 12 hidden whenever a bonus bar is shown? |
| 08:14.02 | Corrodias | arbitrary sequences of macros? for those who like a little arbitrary spellcasting in their game! |
| 08:14.55 | cogwheel | arbitrary ≠ random |
| 08:14.57 | cogwheel | :P |
| 08:15.02 | cladhaire | cogwheel: MacroTalk? |
| 08:15.05 | cladhaire | typo? |
| 08:15.31 | cogwheel | aye |
| 08:15.36 | cogwheel | fixed |
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| 08:20.30 | Corrodias | "Warning: mysql_select_db() [function.mysql-select-db]: Access denied for user 'wwwrun'@'localhost' (using password: NO) in..." |
| 08:20.30 | Rayne | omg |
| 08:20.45 | Corrodias | gg webadmin :P |
| 08:20.46 | Rayne | have you guys seen the Blinding Powder insciption? |
| 08:20.51 | Rayne | its hillarious |
| 08:24.38 | Mike-N-Go | "Once favored by rogues as a blinding agent, it was abandoned for more readily available resources... like dirt." |
| 08:24.52 | Corrodias | what's the point of Siphon Life? |
| 08:25.24 | greppy | ... are you serious? |
| 08:25.45 | Corrodias | yes. my warlock is very low level at the moment and can't directly compare it to Drain Life. |
| 08:26.20 | greppy | It is an instacast dot that steals your targets health and gives it to you. |
| 08:26.25 | greppy | you don't have to channel it |
| 08:26.29 | Corrodias | oh yes, i asked this yesterday >_< |
| 08:26.36 | Corrodias | *boing* |
| 08:26.46 | Shirik | niiiiiiiiight |
| 08:26.47 | greppy | it is an affliction, so if you have improved drain life it counts towards that. |
| 08:27.11 | greppy | I was wondering why I had this sudden feeling of deja vu |
| 08:27.53 | Shirik|zZz | also |
| 08:27.55 | Shirik|zZz | ~lart Corrodias |
| 08:27.55 | purl | shoots Corrodias in the head |
| 08:28.09 | Shirik|zZz | it's probably because I told him, and he, like most, ignores everything I say |
| 08:28.12 | Shirik|zZz | probably rightfully so |
| 08:32.09 | KarlKFI | =D sag_ich_nicht I hit 9% hit w/o tallents today and i'm getting more tomorrow on S3 pants, so i can use my non-hit cloak |
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| 08:39.16 | Intangir | well im making a sweet addon |
| 08:39.24 | Intangir | i got a shitload done tonight |
| 08:39.28 | Intangir | but its freaking 3 almost already holy shit |
| 08:39.30 | Intangir | i gotta crash |
| 08:39.49 | Intangir | probably will be able to finish by wednesday |
| 08:40.15 | Intangir | its a mapping addon |
| 08:40.27 | Intangir | a cross between partyspotter, battlefield commander, and blizzards built in minimapper |
| 08:41.04 | Intangir | will let you track your target/focus, friends, guildmates, combat and dead people in battlegrounds, on minimap and .. the normal map |
| 08:41.21 | Intangir | crashing now, laters |
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| 08:43.45 | Corrodias | k |
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| 08:59.30 | KarlKFI | the 2.3.2 pally changes make me happy. :) more ret pally <3 |
| 08:59.45 | nevcairiel | whats changing? |
| 08:59.52 | KarlKFI | Crusader Strike (Retribution) now causes 110% of weapon damage and no longer gains any bonus from spell damage. |
| 08:59.56 | KarlKFI | Sanctified Judgements (Retribution) now returns 80% of the Seal's mana cost, increased from 50%. |
| 09:00.06 | Corrodias | ret pallies are being refunded all talent points and the ret tree is being removed |
| 09:00.25 | KarlKFI | more mana efficiency and less reliance on spell dmg |
| 09:00.30 | Corrodias | cool |
| 09:00.54 | KarlKFI | it'll play nicely with the S3 gear which now has zero spell dmg on it |
| 09:01.41 | KarlKFI | and means I can focus more on str and finally get some more mp5 now that I've hit my the 2h +hit cap |
| 09:02.12 | Corrodias | "Using Curse of Weakness is not normally effective when soloing because while it decreases the amount of damage the target does per hit, the lack of damage from not using a Curse of Agony means the battle will take longer and the monster will get in more of those hits." |
| 09:02.39 | Corrodias | however, curse of agony starts out doing such little damage that in a quicker battle, it won't have a big effect |
| 09:02.49 | greppy | right. |
| 09:03.25 | Wobin | I can't believe I did that |
| 09:03.42 | mikma | me neither. what? |
| 09:03.42 | Wobin | I did the classic noob respec mistake |
| 09:04.01 | Wobin | I've been using Hemo rank 1 for all this time since patch =P |
| 09:04.09 | KarlKFI | gj |
| 09:04.11 | Corrodias | HAH |
| 09:04.20 | Wobin | well actually since last respec |
| 09:04.33 | KarlKFI | i always run into that issue on ptr when points are wiped. i'm never near a trainer |
| 09:07.13 | Corrodias | not sure i'm well-suited to the warlock class |
| 09:07.17 | KarlKFI | the only real problem with the the crusader change is that it makes the Alar pally trinket even more useless |
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| 09:07.50 | KarlKFI | now the spell dmg is only used for command and judge of command and the coeficient is fairly low |
| 09:08.41 | KarlKFI | Seal is 20.0% and Judge is 43% |
| 09:09.36 | KarlKFI | so like 40/80 dmg with 200 spell dmg |
| 09:10.33 | KarlKFI | might as well just trade 100 str for that spell dmg |
| 09:13.18 | KarlKFI | well with my 3 pieces of S3 I'll lose 100 spell dmg |
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| 09:14.34 | Corrodias | i might go for Demonology at 41. i hear it makes solo life pretty simple. |
| 09:14.54 | Corrodias | *at 50 |
| 09:15.01 | KarlKFI | and i'll gain like 45 str and a 5% crusader buff :) |
| 09:15.12 | KarlKFI | so my dmg will go up |
| 09:15.26 | KarlKFI | =D |
| 09:22.57 | mikma | http://kuvaton.com/kuvei/hyppykroko.jpg |
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| 10:22.51 | bleeter | mmm usual tuesday night forum collapse, or maintenance? |
| 10:24.45 | nevcairiel | there is extended maint because of arena season 3 |
| 10:24.48 | Rayne2 | maint |
| 10:26.15 | bleeter | I understood the season 3 foo.. just not necessarily the forum outage with inconsistent error messages ;) |
| 10:26.51 | nevcairiel | probably down due to all the arena kiddys checking it every 5 seconds |
| 10:27.09 | bleeter | well the error message does tell them to 'please try again' ;) |
| 10:27.22 | nevcairiel | fail |
| 10:27.39 | nevcairiel | "pleasy try again in 6 hours when the maintenance is complete" would be better |
| 10:29.38 | bleeter | so I guess this gives me the window of opportunity to upgrade my OS |
| 10:33.17 | Wobin | bleeter: Oh this will work flawlessly =) |
| 10:33.48 | Wobin | bleeter: http://xkcd.com/349/ |
| 10:34.03 | bleeter | alternatively, I should accept this MBA I've received in my email, along with the $100,00. |
| 10:34.25 | Wobin | Will it increase your penis size? |
| 10:35.53 | bleeter | doesn't look like it :( |
| 10:35.58 | bleeter | CHEAP BASTARDS! |
| 10:36.36 | nevcairiel | lol |
| 10:43.11 | Kalroth | Hrmm, intriguiging. I could use a larger penis. Would any of you know where to find information on increasing the size of my penis? |
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| 10:59.36 | bleeter | Kalroth: usenet |
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| 11:15.24 | Pac2722 | hi is wow down for the nite? |
| 11:21.34 | Wobin | yes |
| 11:22.00 | Pac2722 | dam im going to play guildwars them |
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| 13:15.07 | zenzelezz | "Laws are like sausages. It's better not to see them being made." |
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| 13:35.45 | Industrial | zenzelezz: lol. |
| 13:45.28 | sag_ich_nicht | http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info7911-MacroSequence.html holy fuckking shit i want to send a pack of cookies to cogwheel |
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| 13:57.01 | art3mis | hehe he recreated one hit wonder ;P |
| 13:57.09 | sag_ich_nicht | kekeke |
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| 14:15.16 | bleeter | Wobin: wasn't that painful.. had a bit of a 'doh' moment when it cam to configuring the three soundcards tho. I really should back that bastard config up one day ;) |
| 14:15.24 | bleeter | er s/cam/came/ |
| 14:15.31 | Wobin | bleeter: heeh |
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| 14:26.31 | bleeter | Wobin: http://www.wowblues.com/us/stop-advertising-in-australia-3159696195.html |
| 14:26.57 | bleeter | high to locked Oceanic realms, and the idiots are advertising :/ |
| 14:27.31 | bleeter | and no, I ain't gunna shut up about it... 'coz it's fer their own good |
| 14:27.39 | bleeter | (that wasn't me who posted that btw) |
| 14:28.50 | nevcairiel | you are no obvious troll? |
| 14:30.09 | zenzelezz | "My mom say im Special".... another funky horde guild |
| 14:30.52 | Industrial | all moms do that |
| 14:30.57 | Industrial | ... right? :\ |
| 14:31.06 | nevcairiel | not if you suck really bad |
| 14:32.19 | art3mis | like yer mom? |
| 14:32.23 | art3mis | ~rimshot |
| 14:32.24 | purl | ba-dum CHH |
| 14:33.33 | Industrial | ;D |
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| 14:41.06 | art3mis | hrm i think i need to build a vnc server nix based |
| 14:41.35 | art3mis | so itll install a client on the clients machine and use push to connect to the central server for routing and path |
| 14:41.55 | art3mis | sorta like what network streaming does |
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| 14:45.49 | Wobin | bleeter: I agree |
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| 14:48.04 | mikma | cogwheel: i'm not quite sure, but can your latest addon be used to ie do a megabuffer for lowlevel druid? |
| 14:48.46 | Maldivia | ... in other words: morning, and welcome :) |
| 14:48.57 | Wobin | castsequence [target=party1] Pink Paw, [target=party2] Pink Paw....etc? |
| 14:49.11 | nevcairiel | castsequence cant take [target] |
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| 14:51.43 | bleeter | Wobin: what's more amusing, I'm guessing, is the ad ran on SBS primetime - whilst all the realms were down for maintenance =) |
| 14:51.58 | Wobin | naturally |
| 14:52.09 | amro | any idea where I could get "Installer Tome 2.mpq"? mine's corrupted |
| 14:52.14 | bleeter | NOTE TO BLIZZ: DONT ADVERTISE ON OCEANIC TV TUESDAY NIGHTS |
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| 14:52.47 | mikma | amro: install cd nr.2 |
| 14:53.06 | amro | mikma: yeah, it's corrupted |
| 14:53.19 | mikma | amro: time to buy a new cd-drive! |
| 14:53.57 | malreth | hallo everybody |
| 14:54.18 | amro | mikma: no the CD is corrupted I'm sure |
| 14:54.26 | amro | hi malreth |
| 14:54.43 | mikma | amro: well then you need to contact blizz, i've heard they have some sort of replacement -service or so |
| 14:55.34 | amro | that's no good, it'd take forever to ship... I'll just look for a torrent |
| 14:55.40 | malreth | corrupt install disks? |
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| 14:56.06 | cogwheel | mikma: yes |
| 14:56.16 | mikma | cogwheel: wheeeee! |
| 14:56.55 | malreth | install disks for WoW or the burning crusade client? |
| 14:57.16 | nevcairiel | bleeter: somehow i dont believe its blizzard decision to advertise anywhere, they still have a publisher and so. |
| 14:57.39 | Rayne | Who needs a good laugh? |
| 14:57.50 | mikma | me me! |
| 14:57.51 | bleeter | nevcairiel: most advertisers can tell their booking agents what times, etc. |
| 14:58.01 | Rayne | http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v442/SinOfDreams/1196158937341.jpg Enjoy |
| 14:58.03 | bleeter | if not all |
| 14:58.04 | malreth | if it's not a good laugh, i'll pound you, Rayne |
| 14:58.06 | Rayne | I laughed pretty hard |
| 14:58.15 | mikma | Rayne: http://www.kuvaton.com/kuvei/hyppykroko.jpg |
| 14:58.18 | nevcairiel | i still believe that vivendi does all the advertising stuff, and not blizzard |
| 14:58.35 | Rayne | :( |
| 14:58.35 | nevcairiel | Rayne: man thats old :P |
| 14:58.43 | bleeter | ~lart vivendi |
| 14:58.43 | purl | cuts off vivendi's head with a halberd that could have been a little bit sharper |
| 14:58.53 | malreth | that croc needs a caption |
| 14:59.13 | Rayne | ok well I offer you this as a last resort.... http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v442/SinOfDreams/1194331762939.jpg |
| 14:59.13 | cogwheel | that croc needs moar lolcats |
| 14:59.18 | Rayne | im sure I have better |
| 14:59.22 | bleeter | nevcairiel: vivendi-universal australia are... a useless bunch of twats. and that's mild ;) |
| 14:59.51 | malreth | Rayne: i approve of launching little sisters with crotches |
| 15:00.13 | malreth | http://www.catandgirl.com/view.php?loc=544 |
| 15:00.18 | Rayne | OH |
| 15:00.22 | bleeter | nevcairiel: anyways, wouldn't be that much of an issue if the Oceanic realms weren't so heavily populated/locked ;) |
| 15:00.30 | Rayne | heres my ace in the whole pic |
| 15:00.31 | Rayne | http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v442/SinOfDreams/1188394610906.jpg |
| 15:00.33 | bleeter | gnight y'all |
| 15:00.46 | malreth | Rayne: disturbing |
| 15:00.57 | cogwheel | is he smiling? |
| 15:00.59 | cogwheel | is he frowning? |
| 15:01.09 | cogwheel | WHERE ARE HIS EYELASHES???!!!111 |
| 15:01.33 | Rayne | let me see if I got anything else... |
| 15:03.11 | Rayne | http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1232/1230934791_04b641c81d_o.png that was my desktop background for so long |
| 15:04.16 | Rayne | http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1257/788588461_007d1a2df1_b.jpg and thats about all I have... |
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| 15:11.24 | nevcairiel | I wish it was easier to create a bigger questlog without tainting the whole questlog system :( |
| 15:15.55 | malreth | nevcairiel: hmm? |
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| 15:17.42 | nevcairiel | see, my little custom questlog, basicly does the same as DoubleWide, increase frame size, add new textures, and here comes: changes QUESTS_DISPLAYED global, tainting the hell out of the questlog, causing alot of blocked errors all over the place |
| 15:18.34 | malreth | aaah... |
| 15:19.00 | malreth | and DoubleWide gets away with this? damn that Iriel! |
| 15:19.21 | nevcairiel | nah |
| 15:19.23 | nevcairiel | same issue |
| 15:19.49 | nevcairiel | i wrote mine while leveling in BC, never cared to release it, then doublewide appeared, but i still use mine =) |
| 15:19.56 | malreth | oh... uh... Iriel is teh awesomes... yeah... i'd never speak ill of him |
| 15:20.38 | malreth | well, i don't get a lot of blocked errors all over the place and I use DW |
| 15:20.56 | krka | he's a witch! |
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| 15:21.35 | nevcairiel | if your quest tracker decides to appear while you are in combat because you just got one objective of a quest done, it'll try to call all the fun stuff in UIParent.lua |
| 15:21.50 | nevcairiel | on a tainted path, thats bad |
| 15:22.08 | nevcairiel | well not that bad, but the warnings get annoying :P |
| 15:23.11 | malreth | ah... i don't use the built-in quest tracker |
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| 15:41.27 | malreth | http://sinfest.net/comikaze/comics/2007-11-23.gif |
| 15:47.37 | dylanm | Sinfest has gotten a lot better lately |
| 15:47.41 | krka | wait... curse has the wiki now? |
| 15:57.59 | malreth | Sinfest is a glorious example of what it takes to make a successful and profitable comic |
| 15:58.25 | malreth | simple premise, and cookie cutter formulaic story lines |
| 15:58.33 | malreth | except for one thing... |
| 15:58.47 | malreth | the guy hasn't gotten syndicated so i guess he fail it |
| 15:59.07 | malreth | perhaps the newspapers don't like all the boobs and ass |
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| 16:02.23 | Thunder_Child | krka, yes, since v3 iirc |
| 16:03.42 | krka | i see |
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| 16:12.43 | batrick | morning |
| 16:12.58 | Zxcvb | morning |
| 16:13.12 | Zxcvb | do you know how often they do a full fsck when they restart? |
| 16:13.35 | MentalPower | no idea |
| 16:13.45 | JoshBorke | morning |
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| 16:16.01 | cog|work | morning |
| 16:16.10 | |Jelly| | morning |
| 16:18.06 | malreth | Zxcvb: fsck? blizzard? |
| 16:19.54 | Duman | I doubt they fsck on reboot, unless there was a fs problem |
| 16:20.12 | malreth | i doubt they have filesystems in the way that we'd think about them |
| 16:20.19 | Duman | nah, they do |
| 16:20.31 | Duman | my coworker has some friends that work as SAs at blizzard |
| 16:20.55 | malreth | ah |
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| 16:21.25 | malreth | i equate MMOGs to fancy graphical front ends to a huge relational database |
| 16:21.54 | JoshBorke | i equate RL to fancy graphical front ends to a huge relational database |
| 16:21.55 | malreth | click a mob, change a value in some table |
| 16:22.03 | Duman | lol |
| 16:22.11 | batrick | hehe |
| 16:22.18 | Zxcvb | Duman: I hope they use journalling filesystems |
| 16:22.26 | Duman | I'm sure they do |
| 16:22.50 | Zxcvb | any idea why it would take 10 hours for downtime? |
| 16:22.50 | malreth | Zxcvb: i bet there's all kinds of redundancy built in |
| 16:22.59 | Duman | they are probably doing some other maint |
| 16:23.20 | Duman | I know my realm (Gilneas) restarted a few times this weekend |
| 16:23.29 | Duman | (each time, beerfest was active) |
| 16:23.33 | malreth | swapping out hardware |
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| 16:24.26 | batrick | the processors r meltin! |
| 16:24.34 | amro | 692mb patch >< |
| 16:24.43 | Duman | ?! |
| 16:25.43 | malreth | srsly? |
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| 16:27.22 | Thunder_Child | thats nice "For your Season 3 buying pleasure, vendors will be made available in some additional locations. If you want to avoid the crowds in Area 52 there will be vendors selling the same items outside of the Nagrand and Blade's Edge arenas, as well as in the town of Gadgetzan." |
| 16:27.45 | amro | from a fresh bc install |
| 16:27.46 | batrick | ahhh |
| 16:28.10 | Duman | oh |
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| 16:28.49 | Duman | they need to add some more servers to their forum-serving pool, methinks |
| 16:29.00 | |Jelly| | agreed |
| 16:29.07 | Zxcvb | no, they need more CALs |
| 16:30.01 | Industrial | Anyone use Avion? I can't get it to work |
| 16:30.39 | malreth | i wonder if the forums get slow because the realms aren't up so people flood the forums... or if it's an effect of the maintenance |
| 16:30.52 | Duman | I'm sure that's why |
| 16:31.37 | Duman | well, there might be issues if they are working on login servers -- but authentication is fine right now; you can log into the game, you'll just not get assigend a realm |
| 16:31.51 | |Jelly| | Where do/are you guys downloading the patch? (Or are you?) |
| 16:32.04 | Duman | no path |
| 16:32.10 | malreth | it's just amro |
| 16:32.11 | Duman | amro was talking about reinstalling |
| 16:32.17 | |Jelly| | Ahhh. |
| 16:32.20 | Duman | *patch |
| 16:32.39 | |Jelly| | Great. Now, I really don't have a damned thing to do for another hour and a half. :( |
| 16:32.43 | Duman | heh |
| 16:32.51 | Duman | just an hour and a half? |
| 16:32.57 | Duman | they said downtime is until noon |
| 16:33.00 | |Jelly| | Especially since the forums are :| cause of the tards in general "ZOMG S3!!!" |
| 16:33.02 | Zxcvb | noon pst |
| 16:33.04 | Duman | so 3.5 hours |
| 16:33.06 | |Jelly| | ;alskdfhj;asp'fj |
| 16:33.22 | |Jelly| | I hope you assholes are happy -- you're going to make me end up cutting! |
| 16:33.23 | Duman | <- PST ;) |
| 16:33.26 | Duman | haha |
| 16:33.33 | Thunder_Child | cut! cut! cut! cut! |
| 16:33.39 | |Jelly| | <-- CST and tired :\ |
| 16:33.43 | Thunder_Child | (and take pics) |
| 16:33.50 | malreth | yes, i was about to ask for pics |
| 16:33.53 | |Jelly| | Someone woke me up logging on AIM. Apparently my laptop was too loud. |
| 16:34.17 | Duman | I might get some work done today... witht he forum being hoarked and all |
| 16:34.37 | Duman | forumS |
| 16:34.41 | Thunder_Child | i have to write some essays before class today |
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| 16:34.46 | Duman | sigh, too early.. can't type |
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| 16:36.27 | MentalPower | wb Cairenn |
| 16:36.44 | Cairenn | hey guys :) |
| 16:38.22 | Industrial | HAI |
| 16:38.23 | Thunder_Child | malreth, i have to say you suck at talking in 3rd person |
| 16:38.50 | malreth | *cry* |
| 16:39.12 | Thunder_Child | "* malreth waves at Cairenn" <-- fixed |
| 16:39.27 | malreth | my way sounds cuter |
| 16:39.58 | Thunder_Child | uh huh..... |
| 16:40.29 | malreth | witness... |
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| 16:42.06 | Thunder_Child | that was not cute to me malreth |
| 16:42.07 | Saint-N | god i feel ill |
| 16:42.38 | Saint-N | at least the buckleys is helping sorta |
| 16:43.38 | Saint-N | heh stupid ex client decided to send me an email saying that the hardware withholding wasnt a valid invoice and that she could back charge me for it being in that room depsite our verbal agreement and that all future emails from me would go into the junk folder |
| 16:43.43 | Saint-N | what a dolt |
| 16:46.01 | dreamss | wow |
| 16:46.47 | Maldivia | not to be mistaken for "what a doll" :) |
| 16:47.01 | Saint-N | all in all its pretty funny thats shes being so petty |
| 16:47.29 | Thunder_Child | i'm so glad i got out of that field |
| 16:47.43 | Saint-N | seeing as how one of her big clients that i have a contract with is leaving soon and her dealings with me is preparing them for when they leave |
| 16:48.06 | Saint-N | making sure that he's got a written contract stating that they wont be charged for the email server hosting etc et cet |
| 16:49.12 | Saint-N | shes just screwing her self too |
| 16:49.32 | Saint-N | the "new tech" she brought in to unplug my two servers is clueless |
| 16:49.39 | Saint-N | i still have root access to the gateway |
| 16:49.46 | Saint-N | i still have access to her machine |
| 16:49.51 | Saint-N | they're just dumb |
| 16:50.30 | dreamss | i love using ssh keys instead of root passwords |
| 16:50.40 | dreamss | most newbtards never check .ssh after they change the root pass |
| 16:50.59 | Saint-N | oh i dont even have to be sneaky |
| 16:51.16 | Saint-N | on the console in the server/phone room is an option that says "reset web admin passwd" |
| 16:51.23 | Saint-N | they just never did it ;)_ |
| 16:56.31 | malreth | well shit... http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20071125-human-observation-of-dark-energy-may-shorten-the-life-span-of-the-universe.html |
| 17:01.01 | Thunder_Child | meh, gonna have to read that later when i can focus on more than one word in three |
| 17:01.26 | dreamss | my friend used to work on that project |
| 17:01.31 | dreamss | 2 years ago or so |
| 17:03.27 | malreth | your friend is ruining it all for everyone |
| 17:03.40 | dreamss | even worse than some ahole witha hummer |
| 17:03.44 | dreamss | exelent |
| 17:03.46 | dreamss | :P |
| 17:04.20 | dreamss | i dont think anything in the universe is finite, everything has a start and end |
| 17:04.24 | dreamss | including the universe |
| 17:04.34 | JoshBorke | dreamss: you mean infinite? |
| 17:04.45 | dreamss | yeah |
| 17:04.46 | Cairenn | those are, without a doubt, one of the stupidest "personal" vehicles out there |
| 17:05.08 | Thunder_Child | Cairenn, eh? |
| 17:05.38 | dreamss | hummers |
| 17:05.47 | Cairenn | it's a f'ing hummer - it's a military vehicle you moron, not something for joe-random-pleeb to drive around the city |
| 17:06.30 | Thunder_Child | i odnt mind people driving humve's around town but the H2's/H3's/H3 Mini's (or w/e) offend me |
| 17:06.36 | Thunder_Child | dont* |
| 17:07.11 | malreth | i like the security that driving a hummer gives me. especially knowing that if i were to have engine trouble or anything like that, i can simply get into my spare SUV that i keep in the back. |
| 17:07.18 | dreamss | "but one day i muight carpool" ;) |
| 17:07.28 | Cairenn | malreth: rofl |
| 17:08.10 | krka | one argument for SUV:s is that if you get into a car accident, it should be safer for you |
| 17:08.12 | dreamss | just be ilegal to drive an veicle with engine bigger than with x numbers of seats by yourself |
| 17:08.17 | krka | (but less safe for the one you crashed into) |
| 17:08.19 | dreamss | should too |
| 17:09.08 | dreamss | http://www.pantherhouse.com/newshelton/wp-content/uploads/2007/10/atomicskull.jpg <-- lol |
| 17:09.12 | Cairenn | I have no problem with your average SUV, hell I drove a 4-Runner for 15 yrs - but Hummers are just stupid |
| 17:09.25 | Thunder_Child | not real ones |
| 17:09.41 | dreamss | im mexico every car as a color tag |
| 17:09.52 | dreamss | 1 day a week that tag cant drive |
| 17:10.02 | dreamss | heh |
| 17:10.07 | Cairenn | Thunder_Child: not the military ones, no - but as personal vehicles in urban settings? right |
| 17:10.07 | Thunder_Child | polution reduction? |
| 17:10.15 | dreamss | yeah |
| 17:10.28 | dreamss | 10-15 years old law |
| 17:10.49 | dreamss | US should do the same for high polution veicles |
| 17:10.52 | dreamss | : |
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| 17:11.30 | Saint-N | speaking of f'ing hummers.. |
| 17:11.31 | wereHamster | krka, I think russia still sells tanks.. if you want to be extra safe in your vehicle |
| 17:11.31 | Thunder_Child | i dunno Cairenn, i dont really have a problem with mill spec hummers roaming the streets....at least you know they wont be speeding |
| 17:11.39 | Cairenn | HAH! |
| 17:11.44 | Cairenn | oh, that's just FUNNY! |
| 17:11.55 | Cairenn | you don't seriously believe what you just claimed, do you? |
| 17:12.20 | Thunder_Child | yes |
| 17:13.12 | Cairenn | yeah, well, come drive around here some day - they do more than just speed - f'ing morons figure they're untouchable since they drive a hummer and if you value your life you get the f out of their way when they're coming down the street |
| 17:15.06 | MentalPower | no, not the hummer |
| 17:15.19 | MentalPower | the military's HMMWV |
| 17:15.23 | MentalPower | aka Humvee |
| 17:15.28 | amro|afk | Cairenn: it would make sense in an urban setting- like Groznyy |
| 17:15.49 | Thunder_Child | Cairenn, those are civ spec'd i bet |
| 17:15.55 | malreth | i need to get the mini-gun upgrade for my hummer |
| 17:16.10 | Thunder_Child | Cairenn, mill spec have a top rated speed of ~60 mph |
| 17:16.23 | malreth | and extra reinforcing bars in the front to push cars out of parking spaces that i want |
| 17:16.23 | nevcairiel | i bet they have mil specs with higher speeds too |
| 17:16.38 | Cairenn | okay, my apologies, I missed the "mill spec" |
| 17:17.53 | Cairenn | but since the conversation was about the stupidity of the "hummer", not about the HMMWV .... |
| 17:18.17 | Thunder_Child | nevcairiel, not really...cant out speed a bullet and 60mph is enough to get out of the way of a tank or other slow firing projectile |
| 17:18.25 | Thunder_Child | besides, armor is heavy |
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| 17:19.11 | amro|afk | Thunder_Child: you don't have time to get out of the way of a tank gun round |
| 17:19.16 | Thunder_Child | Cairenn, right, i was saying that i dont mind mill spec hummvee's running around, just everything else |
| 17:19.48 | Thunder_Child | amro|afk, not if your sitting still no.... |
| 17:21.00 | amro|afk | Thunder_Child: even if you're moving- they have a really high velocity you would barely have time to change direction before you splat |
| 17:21.35 | MentalPower | Cairenn: http://www.army.mil/factfiles/equipment/wheeled/hmmwv.html "Max. Speed: 65 mph" |
| 17:22.00 | Thunder_Child | i am assuming you are aware of the tank, if your not then nothing is really going to save you |
| 17:23.48 | malreth | http://www.rosemariefiore.com/pages.php?content=gallery.php&navGallID=3&activeType=nonNestGall |
| 17:24.10 | malreth | "Death Scene: While Enjoying a Cliff-top View, the Roadrunner's Throat is Chewed Through" |
| 17:25.10 | MentalPower | someone didn't like that the roadrunner always won... |
| 17:25.59 | malreth | no... no they didn't |
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| 17:29.03 | zenzelezz | seeing characters called Nightelfhunt, Thebeastslay etc. makes me wish the name change worked on other people's characters |
| 17:32.17 | zenzelezz | and there was much rejoicing |
| 17:32.19 | amro|afk | zenzelezz: I would totally abuse such a feature |
| 17:32.44 | malreth | 55. Factory moe [koujou moe - 工場萌え]: This year saw a mini-boom in the off-the-wall genre of factory moe photo books focusing on the functional beauty of large-scale industrial plants. |
| 17:32.58 | malreth | i totally agree with this |
| 17:33.22 | malreth | there's just something spectacular about industry, refineries, plants, etc |
| 17:33.35 | malreth | especially at dusk when they're all lit up |
| 17:33.56 | malreth | they're almost surreal in their existence |
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| 17:41.03 | Thunder_Child | just be carfull about photographing them |
| 17:43.44 | JoshBorke | hm, cladhaire, ping |
| 17:43.50 | cladhaire | pong |
| 17:43.57 | Thunder_Child | there was an article in my popphoto mag that talked about a photographer that went to photograph an indutrial installation at night for the lighting, and within 5 min of setting up they were surounded by security thinking they were terrorists |
| 17:44.07 | JoshBorke | cladhaire: tell me what mods to install as a warrior tank :-D |
| 17:44.12 | cladhaire | no |
| 17:44.15 | Thunder_Child | arrested and taken away |
| 17:44.25 | JoshBorke | cladhaire: :- |
| 17:44.26 | JoshBorke | :-( |
| 17:44.27 | JoshBorke | :'( |
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| 17:47.55 | malreth | Thunder_Child: it's a shame, really |
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| 17:48.32 | Thunder_Child | malreth, true, but that can easily be taken caure of by cordinating with security |
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| 17:48.50 | malreth | hmm... i'll have to look into that |
| 17:51.15 | amro | Industrial: ping |
| 17:53.17 | zenzelezz | JoshBorke: Omen (if you raid). Anything else is not necessary |
| 17:53.33 | JoshBorke | zenzelezz: i'm new so i need all the help i can get |
| 17:54.30 | Thunder_Child | and omen is only for people needing to take a reading from you |
| 17:54.44 | zenzelezz | also lets you shout at them ;) |
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| 17:54.56 | zenzelezz | not really sure what addons there are. I use MSBT to get a better picture of what's going on, but did decent without it too |
| 17:54.59 | Thunder_Child | heh, true |
| 17:55.28 | Saint-N | wowo im having a real problem focusing my eyes today |
| 17:55.35 | Saint-N | somehow thats not a good thing |
| 17:55.43 | malreth | Saint-N: have you used eyepaste today? |
| 17:55.47 | Thunder_Child | unless the tank is incharge of the raid...there really isnt anything you need... |
| 17:56.00 | malreth | brush your eyes for a clearer brighter view today! |
| 17:56.01 | Saint-N | no i fergot my tube at home |
| 17:56.49 | JoshBorke | what about keybinds and buttons? |
| 17:56.53 | JoshBorke | i find i don't have enough buttons |
| 17:57.06 | Thunder_Child | as a tank? |
| 17:57.13 | Thunder_Child | how many things are you using? |
| 17:57.17 | zenzelezz | let me fetch a screenshot of my UI |
| 17:57.33 | Saint-N | josh likes having all this emotes at his finger tips |
| 17:57.39 | Saint-N | this==those |
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| 17:58.36 | JoshBorke | Thunder_Child: HS, Devastate, Revenge, Shield bash, demo shout, thunderclap, taunt, spell reflect, shield slam |
| 17:59.56 | JoshBorke | and i find hitting more than the number 6 difficult to reach |
| 18:00.32 | zenzelezz | http://home.samsen.com/zenzelezz/clutter.jpg |
| 18:00.43 | zenzelezz | working on making things smaller, but it works for now |
| 18:01.00 | Thunder_Child | JoshBorke....sooo 1-5 and shift+1-5 |
| 18:01.35 | JoshBorke | oh i definitely use shift 1-5 for changing action bars |
| 18:01.36 | zenzelezz | only special keybind I use is for Intervene |
| 18:01.38 | JoshBorke | and i bout i'll ever change |
| 18:01.47 | zenzelezz | I don't even switch actionbar pages |
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| 18:02.42 | zenzelezz | <JoshBorke> and i find hitting more than the number 6 difficult to reach <-- I usually do 7+ with the mouse |
| 18:03.04 | zenzelezz | except if the fight is static so I don't need to be moving around |
| 18:03.48 | amro | JoshBorke: try ESDF instead of WSAD |
| 18:05.16 | Saint-N | yay its gonna be one of those "whats that bathroom odour" days |
| 18:05.25 | Saint-N | got i hate being sickish |
| 18:05.27 | Saint-N | god |
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| 18:06.07 | Saint-N | zenzelezz: it seems so wrong to see normal UF's with the amount of addons out there to change it ;) |
| 18:06.23 | zenzelezz | that's part of the "making things smaller" list |
| 18:06.52 | Saint-N | you should get aguf for party frames and use dahud for yer target and player frames ;P |
| 18:06.53 | zenzelezz | I stick to a small number of addons, so I'm writing them myself. Don't want much functionality anyhow |
| 18:07.06 | Saint-N | http://www.gothi.ca/Stuff/exploring1.jpg |
| 18:07.09 | JoshBorke | zenzelezz: what hud? |
| 18:07.22 | zenzelezz | HUD? The bars around the character? |
| 18:07.25 | JoshBorke | yea |
| 18:07.30 | Saint-N | thats one configuration of "dahud" |
| 18:07.56 | zenzelezz | JoshBorke: wrote it myself when I was getting into WoW coding |
| 18:08.25 | Thunder_Child | 3d unit things ftl |
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| 18:08.51 | Saint-N | die TC |
| 18:09.01 | Saint-N | i like my ufs ;) |
| 18:09.02 | Thunder_Child | i will |
| 18:09.16 | Thunder_Child | i am not a big fan of things that are only for looks |
| 18:09.17 | Saint-N | im mostly solo so there's not reason for me not to have it |
| 18:09.33 | Saint-N | i could use plain portaits |
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| 18:09.45 | Saint-N | mainly its for the bars and the text, thts why im using a hud for my uf |
| 18:10.32 | JoshBorke | zenzelezz: gief source =D |
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| 18:13.18 | JoshBorke | zenzelezz: mind going over what spells are what on your actionbar? i haven't played the tank enough to recognize all of them. 1= attack, 2 = hs, 3 = shield bash? 4= ? 5 = taunt, 6 = devastate, 7 = ?, 8 = shieldblock, 9 = trinket, 0 = bloodrage, - = demo shout, \ = battle shout |
| 18:14.05 | zenzelezz | 4 = Revenge, 7 = Shield Slam, \ = Last Stand |
| 18:14.10 | zenzelezz | the rest are correct |
| 18:14.43 | JoshBorke | s1 = ?, s2 = tc, s3 = spell reflect, s4 = disarm, s5 = cleave, s6 = rend, s7 = ?, then that's pretty much all i need |
| 18:15.24 | zenzelezz | S1 = Concussion Blow, S7 = Victory Rush, I ("S8) = Intervene/Charge/Intercept macro |
| 18:15.47 | JoshBorke | having never played a warrior, getting a lvl 70 epic geared warrior is quite a challenge |
| 18:16.34 | zenzelezz | hehe |
| 18:17.16 | JoshBorke | Thunder_Child: i guess i will try out using shift |
| 18:17.26 | JoshBorke | because clicking cleave is a pain |
| 18:17.33 | Thunder_Child | JoshBorke, that or....nvm then |
| 18:17.35 | JoshBorke | clicking period is a pain |
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| 18:19.58 | JoshBorke | s/period is a pain/is a pain period/ |
| 18:20.11 | JoshBorke | s/period is a pain/is a pain, period/ |
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| 18:20.26 | JoshBorke | hit me with your best shot |
| 18:20.28 | JoshBorke | fire away |
| 18:20.46 | Thunder_Child | damit JoshBorke...now i have that song in my head |
| 18:21.23 | amro | JoshBorke: use letters as hotkeys and keep them all between z and 6, works like a charm |
| 18:22.38 | JoshBorke | yea, thinking of also using r, t, g, v, c |
| 18:22.44 | JoshBorke | i can't think of anything that those are usually for |
| 18:22.52 | Thunder_Child | and f |
| 18:22.57 | JoshBorke | oh, and f |
| 18:23.12 | JoshBorke | though, on my keyboard it is: p, y,u, i, k, j |
| 18:23.14 | JoshBorke | :-D |
| 18:23.29 | amro | what layout is that? |
| 18:23.35 | JoshBorke | amro: dvorak |
| 18:24.02 | amro | nice. I'm too impatient to learn it :/ |
| 18:24.23 | |Jelly| | art3mis: Ping? |
| 18:24.36 | JoshBorke | amro: i've been using it about 7 years now |
| 18:24.53 | JoshBorke | imo, it's no different than qwerty |
| 18:25.32 | Saint-N | ping? |
| 18:25.38 | Saint-N | sup |
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| 18:26.38 | batrick | hai friends |
| 18:26.48 | JoshBorke | hai2u |
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| 18:27.19 | Saint-N | |Jelly|: Pong? |
| 18:27.21 | tweek__ | anyone know of a hunter autoshot timer that integrates with ArcHUD or something similar? |
| 18:27.45 | |Jelly| | What's the name of that UF mod that you want me to try? |
| 18:28.49 | |Jelly| | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:28.56 | JoshBorke | bb |
| 18:29.11 | Cairenn | bye josh |
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| 18:29.51 | DM| | ETA on servers? |
| 18:29.57 | batrick | long time |
| 18:30.00 | DM| | damni |
| 18:30.05 | batrick | 1 1/2 hours |
| 18:30.10 | DM| | booooo |
| 18:30.17 | batrick | supposedly |
| 18:30.20 | zenzelezz | I haven't seen someone ask that on IRC for some time... reminds me of downtime in Anarchy Online \o/ |
| 18:30.45 | batrick | i see it all of the time on my realm's irc channel... on tuesdays lulz |
| 18:30.49 | DM| | cept WoW is actually a good game |
| 18:31.13 | batrick | WoW is just more addicting than the rest :) |
| 18:31.19 | batrick | and offers a Lua playground for us |
| 18:32.12 | DM| | what are the realm IRC channels? |
| 18:32.21 | batrick | realm dependent i imagine |
| 18:32.47 | Cairenn | many realms have set up channels, most on quakenet |
| 18:32.57 | Cairenn | I believe |
| 18:32.58 | batrick | mine's on gamesurge |
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| 18:37.52 | Thunder_Child | if your that bored you can do my homework |
| 18:38.36 | Rayne | no thanks |
| 18:38.57 | |Jelly| | Saint-N: ? |
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| 19:00.06 | Rayne | omfg |
| 19:00.09 | Rayne | flashbacks |
| 19:00.11 | Rayne | http://youtube.com/watch?v=mVVmxFnn53o&feature=related |
| 19:00.13 | |Jelly| | ? |
| 19:01.57 | mikma | http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info7907-ForgeDamageMeter.html <- i still laugh at my comment |
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| 19:02.59 | |Jelly| | Rayne: Hit yourself. |
| 19:03.04 | Industrial | amro_: yo |
| 19:03.05 | Rayne | WHY |
| 19:03.29 | DM| | LOLO |
| 19:03.30 | DM| | http://www.blizzard.com/wow/screenshot.aspx?ImageIndex=203&Set=64 |
| 19:04.02 | |Jelly| | I really liked that movie though. |
| 19:04.13 | |Jelly| | Then again, for whatever reason, I like all "super teacher" movies. :-\ |
| 19:06.17 | Saint-N | |Jelly|: dahud |
| 19:06.27 | |Jelly| | About damned time. |
| 19:06.33 | Saint-N | whiner |
| 19:07.12 | mikma | http://www.adverbox.com/admin/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2007/11/oogmerk1.jpg (oogmerk1.jpg, oogmerk2.jpg, oogmerk3.jpg) |
| 19:12.34 | deltron | heh truck driver |
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| 19:24.18 | cladhaire | can someone ping me when the servers come back up |
| 19:24.20 | cladhaire | i have a ton of work to do |
| 19:25.19 | Thunder_Child | someone ping cladhaire, every 10 min or so |
| 19:25.32 | wereHamster | so why do you need to know when the servers will be up? |
| 19:26.07 | Shadowed | cladhaire servers aren't up yet, just so you know |
| 19:26.12 | batrick | lol |
| 19:27.50 | cladhaire | wereHamster: ... because my work is documenting the wow api |
| 19:27.58 | cladhaire | and i need live servers to test what i need |
| 19:30.16 | Xuerian | mikma: lol |
| 19:30.50 | batrick | how much do you have left clad? |
| 19:31.14 | cladhaire | 70% or so at the moment |
| 19:31.18 | cladhaire | roughly |
| 19:31.25 | Xuerian | cladhaire: New parts to the api, or are you actually fledging out the documentation on the known api? |
| 19:31.29 | cladhaire | 519 of 1539 functions have completed descriptions (33.72%) |
| 19:31.29 | cladhaire | 1438 of 1539 functions have no open TODO items (93.44%) |
| 19:31.39 | cladhaire | Xuerian: This is all completely original documentation |
| 19:31.46 | Industrial | hoooly crap |
| 19:31.46 | cladhaire | for a number of reasons |
| 19:31.55 | cladhaire | that's just the api |
| 19:32.00 | cladhaire | not including the 478 events, and the widget api |
| 19:32.02 | Xuerian | More power to yah. |
| 19:32.12 | Industrial | madness! |
| 19:32.18 | Xuerian | Writing another book? |
| 19:32.20 | Shadowed | that book would have been even more useful like 2 years ago! |
| 19:32.28 | Industrial | (but really cool and helpful I bet) |
| 19:32.31 | kd3 | did you get a full list from the API guys or are you still having to reverse-engineer? |
| 19:33.03 | cladhaire | ~wowprogramming |
| 19:33.03 | purl | rumour has it, wowprogramming is World of Warcraft Programming: A Guide and Reference for Creating WoW Addons, a book written by Cladhaire, Kaelten and Cogwheel. It serves as a technical reference for the WoW API and customization system (Due out Early 2008). http://tinyurl.com/2vtlya |
| 19:33.17 | cladhaire | kd3: this is completely us |
| 19:33.31 | cladhaire | purl, no, wowprogramming is wowprogramming is World of Warcraft Programming: A Guide and Reference for Creating WoW Addons, a book written by Cladhaire, Kaelten and Cogwheel. It serves as a technical reference for the WoW API and customization system (Due out April 2008). http://tinyurl.com/2vtlya |
| 19:33.32 | purl | cladhaire: what are you talking about? |
| 19:33.41 | cladhaire | meh |
| 19:33.42 | cog|work | no comma after no |
| 19:33.42 | batrick | lol |
| 19:33.56 | cog|work | i think... |
| 19:34.10 | cladhaire | meh *shruggles* |
| 19:34.13 | cladhaire | not that important either |
| 19:34.19 | Industrial | purl: no, blah |
| 19:34.21 | krka | isn't your book already published? |
| 19:34.22 | cog|work | vrai |
| 19:34.28 | Xuerian | krka: second book. |
| 19:34.29 | cog|work | krka: that's hwow |
| 19:34.37 | krka | same publisher? |
| 19:34.39 | cog|work | ~hwow |
| 19:34.39 | purl | from memory, hwow is Hacking World of Warcraft, a book written by Daniel Gilbert and James Whitehead (Cladhaire) about user interface customization for WoW. http://tinyurl.com/2mgkek. |
| 19:34.41 | cog|work | yep |
| 19:34.54 | krka | this one is without gilbert? |
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| 19:35.07 | cog|work | the new one, yes |
| 19:35.07 | cladhaire | krka: same publisher, but everything else (literally) is different |
| 19:35.09 | cladhaire | this isn't part of a series |
| 19:35.11 | cladhaire | its a one-off entirely |
| 19:35.17 | batrick | cladhaire: does that number of functions include widget functions? |
| 19:35.18 | cog|work | and it has a better cover |
| 19:35.22 | cladhaire | has a pimp-ass cover instead of "DONT GET PWND" |
| 19:35.25 | cladhaire | batrick: no, it doesn't. |
| 19:35.32 | cladhaire | batrick: those are easy |
| 19:35.37 | batrick | well maybe 100 more tho |
| 19:35.41 | batrick | ya true |
| 19:35.41 | Shadowed | Still can't believe anyone would think thats an useful cover |
| 19:35.57 | Thunder_Child | "pimp-ass" as wow dont really go together |
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| 19:36.03 | Thunder_Child | s/as/and/ |
| 19:36.05 | krka | make a chapter about the injustice of removing movement functions! |
| 19:36.07 | Industrial | usefulness is subjective |
| 19:36.07 | Thunder_Child | .... |
| 19:36.07 | Industrial | :D |
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| 19:37.14 | cladhaire | http://images.gammatester.com/pics/94b598e15dba0017663f004a16203cb9.jpg <-- pimp ass |
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| 19:37.52 | zenzelezz | albino tauren? o_O |
| 19:38.05 | batrick | is that Lua code on the screen i can't tell lol |
| 19:38.09 | cog|work | xml |
| 19:38.13 | cladhaire | its framlexml |
| 19:38.15 | cladhaire | framexml |
| 19:38.15 | batrick | ah |
| 19:38.21 | zenzelezz | pretty cool that it has no night elves on the cover \o/ |
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| 19:38.26 | cladhaire | lol |
| 19:38.33 | cladhaire | there's no night elves in LFGComic |
| 19:38.35 | krka | cool cover! |
| 19:38.37 | cladhaire | so that wouldn't make sense |
| 19:38.42 | Thunder_Child | isnt that a comic> |
| 19:38.43 | Thunder_Child | ?* |
| 19:38.48 | zenzelezz | I have no idea what comic that is |
| 19:38.53 | Shadowed | yea it's done by the people who do leasticoulddo |
| 19:38.55 | Thunder_Child | i recognise the lock |
| 19:38.59 | cladhaire | yes |
| 19:39.01 | cladhaire | http://lfgcomic.com/page/1 |
| 19:39.02 | batrick | cladhaire: how much is it going to cost do you know? |
| 19:39.06 | krka | who are the other two, cladhaire? |
| 19:39.07 | dylanm | Thunder_Child: Same |
| 19:39.10 | cog|work | batrick: click the link |
| 19:39.13 | cog|work | ~wowprogramming |
| 19:39.14 | purl | extra, extra, read all about it, wowprogramming is World of Warcraft Programming: A Guide and Reference for Creating WoW Addons, a book written by Cladhaire, Kaelten and Cogwheel. It serves as a technical reference for the WoW API and customization system (Due out Early 2008). http://tinyurl.com/2vtlya |
| 19:39.27 | batrick | ah |
| 19:40.07 | batrick | cog you're working on it too right? |
| 19:40.07 | cog|work | msg purl no wowprogramming is World of Warcraft Programming: A Guide and Reference for Creating WoW Addons, a book written by Cladhaire, Kaelten and Cogwheel. It serves as a technical reference for the WoW API and customization system (Due out April 2008). http://tinyurl.com/2vtlya |
| 19:40.09 | krka | someone msg with a torrent link to the pdf when it's out |
| 19:40.36 | batrick | i feel bad i laughed at that |
| 19:40.39 | cog|work | batrick: "a book written by Cladhaire, Kaelten and Cogwheel." ... looks like it :P |
| 19:40.45 | Thunder_Child | i dont think hwow is out on a torrent |
| 19:40.46 | batrick | o I need to l2read |
| 19:40.52 | Thunder_Child | i could be wrong though |
| 19:41.08 | cladhaire | wiley has a reasonable copyright enforcement office |
| 19:41.12 | cladhaire | tho i dont know how well it works :P |
| 19:41.21 | cladhaire | you can use the web reference when the book is released |
| 19:41.23 | cladhaire | that's open to everyone |
| 19:41.34 | batrick | sweet |
| 19:42.18 | krka | just kidding cladhaire! promise! |
| 19:42.28 | cladhaire | :P |
| 19:43.00 | cog|work | sad thing is, there's someone in this channel who has promised to do just that >:( |
| 19:43.06 | dylanm | Yeah I recall that. |
| 19:43.12 | Cairenn | yup |
| 19:43.23 | dylanm | Cool kids. |
| 19:43.28 | batrick | wha? |
| 19:43.39 | Saint-N | are we talking about me? |
| 19:43.41 | Shadowed | hows the web stuff going to work anyway, locked wiki kind of thing that you maintain or people can update API things? |
| 19:43.49 | cog|work | batrick: it's probably in purl's logs somewhere, but i'll be damned if i'm gonna go searching for it |
| 19:44.06 | batrick | that's pretty messed up : / |
| 19:44.07 | cog|work | Shadowed: haven't worked out the details yet |
| 19:44.08 | Xuerian | cladhaire: Haha, got the lfg artist do do the book ar |
| 19:44.13 | Shadowed | it's a pain in the ass to browse a PDF anyway, I'd rather get a nice book to flip through to find referances |
| 19:44.27 | cladhaire | Xuerian: yep.. after the shit we got for the last book, I wasn't gonna mess around |
| 19:44.30 | cog|work | though we do have a domain :P |
| 19:44.35 | cog|work | http://www.wowprogramming.com |
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| 19:44.47 | Xuerian | cog|work: Pro |
| 19:44.53 | cladhaire | .. |
| 19:44.57 | cladhaire | why would you give out the empty domain |
| 19:44.57 | cladhaire | lol |
| 19:44.59 | cladhaire | loser |
| 19:45.01 | cog|work | :P |
| 19:45.10 | cog|work | it was in context imo |
| 19:45.25 | Xuerian | so |
| 19:45.26 | Saint-N | hes gonna fill it with porn spam redirects andmake cash! |
| 19:45.27 | Xuerian | now the real question |
| 19:45.31 | cladhaire | Shadowed: the web still will be collaborative (possibly a wiki) and people will be able to contribute, etc. |
| 19:45.36 | Xuerian | The last book make you money? =O |
| 19:46.00 | cladhaire | Shadowed: and there will be provisions for wiley to contact the contributers if they choose to make a second edition, to use the updated online refernece as basis for the printed reference |
| 19:46.07 | cladhaire | Xuerian: make me money? no. |
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| 19:46.34 | Shadowed | ahh |
| 19:46.36 | Xuerian | Fun, then? 0_o |
| 19:47.08 | cladhaire | not really |
| 19:47.10 | cladhaire | good experience, sure :P |
| 19:47.22 | cladhaire | the first book, I was supposed to just be the tech editor |
| 19:47.28 | cladhaire | i ended up writing over half of it O.o |
| 19:47.37 | Xuerian | Ah <.< |
| 19:48.11 | dylanm | Don't get pwn'd again, clad. |
| 19:48.25 | Thunder_Child | *sigh* @ puns... |
| 19:48.28 | cladhaire | lol |
| 19:50.31 | sag_ich_nicht | cladhaire, praid works like a charm, but the outlook on the ex-gf sex front is not good :/ |
| 19:50.52 | cladhaire | bullshit |
| 19:50.55 | Cide | wait |
| 19:51.01 | Cide | praid provides ex-gf sex? |
| 19:51.01 | cladhaire | tell her i said she has to |
| 19:51.02 | Shadowed | Good news is, maintence hasn't been pushed back yet it appears |
| 19:51.10 | sag_ich_nicht | cladhaire i already did |
| 19:51.10 | sag_ich_nicht | D: |
| 19:51.14 | cladhaire | =( |
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| 19:52.25 | sag_ich_nicht | it's a shame |
| 19:52.31 | Drea | goood afternoon all |
| 19:52.39 | sag_ich_nicht | especially since she's together with this controlfreak now |
| 19:53.10 | zenzelezz | <Thunder_Child> *sigh* @ puns... <--- remember, it's sentences like this that make up throw so many puns at you |
| 19:53.28 | DM| | ugh i dont care about s3, just bring up the damn servers |
| 19:53.34 | Cairenn | hi Drea |
| 19:53.42 | Thunder_Child | " remember, it's sentences like this that make up throw so many puns at you" remeber it's things like this that make us wonder what people say |
| 19:53.53 | zenzelezz | http://www.blogsmithmedia.com/www.joystiq.com/media/2007/11/expend.jpg |
| 19:54.14 | Drea | hoes everyon doin today? |
| 19:54.20 | Thunder_Child | s/remeber/remember, / |
| 19:54.58 | Thunder_Child | and the fact that Cairenn answered |
| 19:55.03 | sag_ich_nicht | hey |
| 19:55.04 | sag_ich_nicht | COG |
| 19:55.05 | Drea | :D |
| 19:55.05 | Thunder_Child | first |
| 19:55.09 | sag_ich_nicht | CATCH |
| 19:55.13 | Drea | my typos are part of my charm |
| 19:55.14 | Drea | :D |
| 19:55.52 | Cairenn | well, it does take a hoe to make chips, actually |
| 19:56.10 | Thunder_Child | potatoes... |
| 19:56.16 | Cairenn | precisely |
| 19:56.21 | Thunder_Child | are not chips |
| 19:56.29 | Thunder_Child | != |
| 19:56.31 | Cairenn | yes, yes they are |
| 19:56.34 | Thunder_Child | no |
| 19:56.37 | Cairenn | yes |
| 19:56.38 | Thunder_Child | no |
| 19:57.06 | Thunder_Child | no, no they are not, you cannot reach into the group and pull out a handfull of chips |
| 19:57.07 | Shadowed | Woman are never wrong, don't argue |
| 19:57.19 | Thunder_Child | s/group/ground/ |
| 19:57.30 | Shadowed | you can if you bury a bag of chips |
| 19:57.45 | Cairenn | Thunder_Child: ingredients in chips - "potatoes" |
| 19:57.45 | Thunder_Child | hmm...you know, i am surprised that vending machines dont have CC slots |
| 19:57.57 | amro | Thunder_Child: I don't reach into the ground for my potatoes either- I buy them in a bag |
| 19:58.12 | DM| | No women are always wrong, they are just better at arguing, and they never give up arguing, and men dont care that much, so we just say they win so we can get some sex |
| 19:58.17 | cog|work | sag_ich_nicht: wtf? |
| 19:58.21 | cog|work | why aren't you stabbing me? |
| 19:58.22 | Thunder_Child | right, a HOE is not required to make chips...but they are for potatoes |
| 19:58.23 | Cairenn | hoes -> potatoes -> chips , so hoes=chips |
| 19:58.30 | Drea | ... SHH DM there's wiminx in here! |
| 19:58.42 | DM| | women dont exist on the internets, |
| 19:58.52 | Thunder_Child | Cairenn, thats circular logic.... |
| 19:59.18 | Drea | oh ya. phew. |
| 19:59.25 | sag_ich_nicht | cog|work: MacroSequence |
| 19:59.26 | Thunder_Child | ~irc |
| 19:59.26 | purl | "Welcome to IRC: where the men are men, the women are men, and the little girls are FBI agents." |
| 19:59.48 | Thunder_Child | and Cairenn breaks the rules |
| 19:59.57 | Cairenn | always ;) |
| 20:02.15 | zenzelezz | she doesn't break the rules, she makes the rules |
| 20:02.23 | Lunessa | It's the whip and boots. They give her license to make/break any rules. |
| 20:02.30 | cog|work | sag_ich_nicht: that would do it :P |
| 20:02.37 | dreamss | so... its 12pm pst |
| 20:02.45 | dreamss | heh |
| 20:03.00 | Shadowed | serverrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrssssssssssssssssss |
| 20:03.02 | Shadowed | wruuuuuuuuuuuuuu |
| 20:03.23 | Thunder_Child | zenzelezz, Lunessa: LIES!!! |
| 20:03.37 | Drea | stupid servers |
| 20:03.40 | Drea | :) |
| 20:03.42 | Drea | :( |
| 20:03.42 | Lunessa | ... Yes, it's true. Everything I say is a lie. |
| 20:04.00 | Drea | see, that means you never tell a lie |
| 20:04.08 | Drea | ha!! i do have a brain. lol |
| 20:04.27 | Xuerian | http://www.blizzard.com/wow/screenshot.aspx?ImageIndex=185&Set=64 bahahaha. |
| 20:04.45 | Cairenn | but if he's telling the truth, then everything he says is a lie - if he's lying then what he said was the truth it was a lie |
| 20:04.59 | Thunder_Child | it just means he can tell the truth |
| 20:05.11 | Drea | exactly! |
| 20:05.18 | DM| | Xuerian well im the "cow" that ganks you |
| 20:05.26 | zenzelezz | why are you telling me Lunessa lies? |
| 20:05.44 | Xuerian | dm: I'd play horde if I didn't have to level again. >_O |
| 20:06.16 | Lunessa | What? Me lie? NEVER! |
| 20:06.37 | DM| | Xuerian its more fun :D |
| 20:06.49 | Xuerian | dm: I know T-T |
| 20:07.01 | sag_ich_nicht | gah |
| 20:07.02 | Drea | well at least with horde you don't have to go thru the same stuff u did with alliance. like a whole new game |
| 20:07.09 | sag_ich_nicht | i thought i had perfectraid disabled for all characters? |
| 20:07.13 | DM| | i just rolled a cow warrior, its fun killing AF and then mooing |
| 20:07.20 | cladhaire | lol |
| 20:07.31 | DM| | course.. did that on my druid too |
| 20:07.39 | cog|work | does blizzard e-mail you if they use your submission as SS of the day? |
| 20:07.42 | Drea | Mooid? |
| 20:09.21 | Cairenn | bb |
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| 20:10.08 | cladhaire | The maintenance is taking a bit longer than previously anticipated, so we.re extending the estimated time the realms will be back up by one hour, which will be at 1:00 PM PST. Thank you for your patience. |
| 20:10.13 | Shadowed | maintence extended an hour |
| 20:10.14 | Shadowed | bah |
| 20:10.28 | DM| | they can extend my fist into their face |
| 20:10.33 | Industrial | lol. |
| 20:10.45 | DM| | they are getting as bad as sony |
| 20:10.48 | Industrial | no, their face onto your fist :D |
| 20:10.54 | Lunessa | http://icanhascheezburger.com/2007/11/24/i-only-had-8-redbulls-why/ |
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| 20:11.32 | Industrial | sometimes I do that.. >_> |
| 20:11.40 | Shadowed | indies going to die young |
| 20:11.48 | sag_ich_nicht | ~lart Lunessa |
| 20:11.48 | purl | takes a big bite out of Lunessa's jugular vein |
| 20:11.55 | sag_ich_nicht | that website is the devil |
| 20:11.59 | sag_ich_nicht | it stole caturday |
| 20:12.03 | sag_ich_nicht | just like lolcats.com |
| 20:12.22 | Lunessa | IM in ur webtron wrekkin ur pruductivity. |
| 20:12.36 | cog|work | onoes... i'm gunna get cyanide poisoning!!! there was a piece of peach pit in my yogurt!!! |
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| 20:13.01 | Guilly | *sigh* at my CS teacher. Everytime I correct her she insists shes right until she tries it and finds that I was right >< |
| 20:13.19 | cog|work | Guilly: i had a science teacher like that |
| 20:13.28 | cog|work | luckily my CS teachers were open to my correctiors >< |
| 20:13.32 | cog|work | s/ors/ons/ |
| 20:13.38 | Industrial | cog|work: you need to see a doctor if you have peach pits in your yoghurt :D |
| 20:13.48 | Industrial | ~rimshot |
| 20:13.49 | purl | ba-dum CHH |
| 20:13.57 | Shadowed | ~stab Industrial |
| 20:13.57 | purl | ACTION runs at Industrial with an origami Swiss Army knife, and inflicts a nasty paper cut. |
| 20:13.59 | Cairenn | ewwwwwwwww |
| 20:14.17 | |Jelly| | http://i6.tinypic.com/7wetabb.jpg <-- instead, Shirik |
| 20:14.17 | Guilly | e.g. I had to convince her that you'd use Rnd()*10+1 for a number between 1 and 10 instead of Rnd()*10 (which would give 0-9 |
| 20:14.33 | cog|work | Guilly: "her" |
| 20:14.36 | Industrial | Cairenn: ey dont look at me cog said it :P |
| 20:14.47 | Guilly | cog: yes :P |
| 20:15.25 | Saint-N | http://www.blizzard.com/wow/screenshot.aspx?ImageIndex=117&Set=64 i like this one |
| 20:17.20 | Guilly | there should be a way to simulate events in the default UI :( |
| 20:17.52 | ScytheBlade1 | Guilly: technically there is.. it just isn't pretty |
| 20:18.05 | ScytheBlade1 | And I have no clue what it would do to the taint |
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| 20:19.00 | Shadowed | and it's only useful if you actually know what the arguments of the event are |
| 20:19.48 | Guilly | Scythe: thats the problem. frames registered to a specific event are called in a seemingly random order. what order is called, however, remains the same even if you change the event arg |
| 20:20.03 | Guilly | so if you just change the event arg, anything else being called recieves bogus arguments |
| 20:20.05 | Guilly | and dies |
| 20:21.02 | Guilly | really the only way to do it safely would be to do it on an event that you are 100% POSITIVE no other frame is registered to. and then register the secure frame to that event with a hook to change the event and args |
| 20:23.14 | Xuerian | http://www.blizzard.com/wow/screenshot.aspx?ImageIndex=134&Set=64 XD |
| 20:23.25 | Drea | how do you place an object on a frame, in lua? |
| 20:23.32 | Beladona | so this water shield change? |
| 20:23.45 | Beladona | is it 50mp5 AND 600 mana after 10 minutes? |
| 20:23.46 | Drea | i was thinkin Region:SetPoint(..)? |
| 20:23.53 | |Jelly| | EXTENDED FOR AN HOUR! kek |
| 20:23.56 | Cairenn | omg, it's a Beladona! hi Beladona |
| 20:23.59 | Beladona | hi |
| 20:24.20 | Beladona | the water shield wording confused me |
| 20:24.24 | Shadowed | |Jelly| welcome to 2010 minutes ago! |
| 20:24.36 | Shadowed | Beladona, thats what a friend was saying |
| 20:24.42 | |Jelly| | Shadowed: Die in a fire? |
| 20:24.51 | Beladona | I know 50mp5 equates to 600 mana per minute, which is the same amount of mana given after 1 minute in 2.3 |
| 20:24.57 | Shadowed | Can I take a raincheck on that Jelly? |
| 20:25.01 | |Jelly| | No. |
| 20:25.05 | Shadowed | I'll do that anyway |
| 20:25.06 | Beladona | but the 600 mana after 10 is what I wasn't sure on |
| 20:25.14 | Shadowed | It's 600 currently isn't it? |
| 20:25.23 | Beladona | yea |
| 20:25.26 | Shadowed | 600 mana, and you can an ADDITIONAL 50mp5 while the water shield is active, is what she made it sound like |
| 20:25.38 | Beladona | 2.3 it just gives 600 mana when it expires (1 minute) |
| 20:25.41 | Shadowed | Servers are coming up |
| 20:25.44 | Beladona | or 200 per globe (3) |
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| 20:26.18 | Guilly | Drea: yes, SetPoint |
| 20:26.25 | Guilly | and you probably want to parent it to that frame as well |
| 20:26.40 | Beladona | so with this change, it will give us 6600 mana in 10 minutes versus 6000 previously (if you kept it up every time it went down) |
| 20:26.43 | Shadowed | Beladona, just checked with her. It's an additional 50mp5 on top of the current 2.3 change |
| 20:26.52 | Beladona | thats hawt |
| 20:26.54 | ScytheBlade1 | Whee |
| 20:26.57 | ScytheBlade1 | My server is up! |
| 20:26.57 | Beladona | AND I don't have to reclick every minute |
| 20:27.01 | Shadowed | cladhaire servers up it appears |
| 20:27.02 | Beladona | woot |
| 20:27.11 | cladhaire | great, thanks. |
| 20:27.13 | Shadowed | np |
| 20:27.18 | Shadowed | have fun documenting |
| 20:27.18 | Guilly | alright, off to next class. see you all later :) |
| 20:27.33 | Beladona | why did they biff it though? |
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| 20:27.37 | Beladona | buff* |
| 20:27.46 | Beladona | I mean, I thought water shield was powerful before |
| 20:27.48 | cladhaire | damn, stormrage isn't up yet |
| 20:27.50 | cladhaire | draka is tho |
| 20:27.53 | cladhaire | but i need my huntar |
| 20:27.56 | Shadowed | IC is up! |
| 20:28.39 | DM| | servers are coming up slowly |
| 20:29.10 | cladhaire | MY MOM COMES UP SLOWLY |
| 20:29.11 | cladhaire | imo |
| 20:29.50 | Rayne | eeeee |
| 20:29.55 | Xuerian | 0_o |
| 20:29.55 | DM| | So you live in west virginia? where its ALL IN THE FAMILY |
| 20:30.00 | Rayne | Burnt Black Cherry passed 1K Downloads :D |
| 20:31.03 | deltron | ? |
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| 20:34.22 | Rayne | my UI |
| 20:34.23 | Rayne | sorry |
| 20:34.29 | Rayne | organizing my playlist |
| 20:34.38 | Rayne | somehow I got doubles of half of my playlist :/ |
| 20:35.26 | haste | everyone should have an insane script which creates a symlink madness library of their music collection |
| 20:35.35 | cladhaire | lies |
| 20:35.54 | Drea | sweet thnx |
| 20:36.56 | Rayne | cladhaire: ? |
| 20:37.13 | cladhaire | ? |
| 20:37.18 | |Jelly| | My server is up. Just so you know. |
| 20:37.44 | Duman | lies |
| 20:37.48 | Rayne | Im waiting for mine |
| 20:37.58 | Drea | i already parented it in the CreateFrame, should i specify it again to be safe? or will that cuase issues? |
| 20:38.00 | Rayne | im going to log onto my lock and seed every horde in Netherstorm. |
| 20:38.10 | Duman | haha |
| 20:38.25 | Drea | suppose everyone needs a hobby |
| 20:38.38 | deltron | lol Rayne |
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| 20:45.59 | Drea | is there a way to set a frame relativeto another frame. IE place a checkbox, and put a button right next to it.. in lua? the SetPoint doesn't seem to have the ability? |
| 20:47.10 | Drea | perhaps i could make the checkbox, the parent of the button? hmm. |
| 20:47.24 | Drea | nope, that wont work doin it dynamically |
| 20:47.56 | Lunessa | Are you trying to make the button appear if the check box is checked? |
| 20:50.57 | Drea | nope. just want em next to each other. |
| 20:51.24 | Lunessa | Ah. I usually do that in XML, so can't advise you on lua. |
| 20:51.28 | Drea | i THINK i've got it figured out. :D |
| 20:52.03 | cladhaire | Cide: did you say the +penetration or the +crit ring? |
| 20:52.06 | Drea | we'll see once the servers come up for me. |
| 20:52.55 | |Jelly| | Rayne: Ping |
| 20:54.34 | cladhaire | Cide: ping :P |
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| 21:03.57 | Drea | question! |
| 21:04.06 | |Jelly| | answer! |
| 21:04.06 | bleeter | answer! |
| 21:04.20 | bleeter | damn you, |Jelly|, damn you! |
| 21:04.26 | |Jelly| | owned im |
| 21:04.30 | |Jelly| | s/im/imo/ |
| 21:05.01 | Drea | I got a table. IE LevelGuideTable [1] {lvlRange,zone,14} that is the first entry in the table. |
| 21:05.23 | Drea | i access it by doing LevelGuideTable[1][3] if i want the 14 right? |
| 21:05.28 | |Jelly| | And so you know, Jelly pings me too. You don't always have to write the | | because well, the 'real' Jelly probably doesn't even know this room exists. |
| 21:06.05 | bleeter | shift+\ is just as easy as shift+j |
| 21:06.06 | JoshBorke | Drea: yes |
| 21:06.21 | Drea | damn, that means there is somethin else wrong. :( |
| 21:06.32 | |Jelly| | But |Jelly| is longer than Jelly by two characters! :P |
| 21:06.47 | |Jelly| | Jeez. Try to help out the lazy and this is what I get?! hehe |
| 21:07.13 | bleeter | are you male? I'd have thought you'd prefer to be longer than shorter /shrug |
| 21:08.01 | |Jelly| | It's not the size of the wave! |
| 21:08.53 | Drea | argh, how do i make sure the variable is a number, and not a string? when i know it's a number that's assigned? |
| 21:10.12 | Drea | from my last ie, i do local currentNum = LevelGuideTable[1][3] should be 14.. but when i try to do for i=1,currentNum do... it says u gotta use nubmers in a for loop... :( |
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| 21:15.19 | Drea | ideas? |
| 21:15.42 | Drea | argh, gotta help the kid, brb think aboutit. :D |
| 21:17.40 | Polarina | Drea: tonumber(Variable) |
| 21:17.56 | malreth | oh... i wish i knew the question |
| 21:18.18 | malreth | there was a website with logs... |
| 21:18.25 | dylanm | If you want to get the type do a type(var) |
| 21:19.26 | |Jelly| | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oPQIizRp9ck kek |
| 21:19.39 | Cairenn | malreth: logs of what? |
| 21:19.53 | malreth | oh, i just wanted to know what drea's question was |
| 21:20.29 | Cairenn | (4:08:40 PM) Drea: argh, how do i make sure the variable is a number, and not a string? when i know it's a number that's assigned? |
| 21:20.29 | Cairenn | (4:09:59 PM) Drea: from my last ie, i do local currentNum = LevelGuideTable[1][3] should be 14.. but when i try to do for i=1,currentNum do... it says u gotta use nubmers in a for loop... :( |
| 21:21.27 | malreth | ah... okeh |
| 21:21.38 | malreth | my curiosity has been satisfied |
| 21:21.54 | malreth | thanks to... the Powerpuff Girls |
| 21:22.12 | zenzelezz | Cairenn is a powerpuff girl? |
| 21:22.38 | Beladona | you could do a debug that calls if (type(currentNum) ~= "number") |
| 21:23.26 | Beladona | Drea: could you provide some context? like a pastey? |
| 21:24.03 | malreth | I agree with Polarina. use tonumber() and check for a nil result just in case |
| 21:24.31 | malreth | oh... |
| 21:24.32 | Beladona | either achieves the same |
| 21:24.45 | dylanm | You should really just find out what you're accessing first |
| 21:24.46 | malreth | actually, sanity checking the input is better |
| 21:25.05 | malreth | well |
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| 21:25.19 | Beladona | if (type(currentNum) == "number") then -- do what you wanted to do originally with the for loop |
| 21:25.47 | Beladona | although it could be a string that just needs to be tonumber-ed |
| 21:26.18 | Beladona | so the tonumber check might be better |
| 21:27.31 | malreth | it also helps to know where the value in LevelGuideTable[1][3] is coming from... user input or what? |
| 21:30.02 | Beladona | thats why I wanted some context |
| 21:30.16 | malreth | agreed |
| 21:30.20 | Beladona | it helps to know what values it COULD be |
| 21:30.40 | Beladona | if it is "someValue" obviously a tonumber isn't going to help |
| 21:32.25 | cladhaire | and the [Solid Star of Elune] market is in an uproar :P |
| 21:33.38 | malreth | what good is all that stamina for anyway? everyone dies in the end anyway. |
| 21:33.51 | malreth | death can be cheated but never denied |
| 21:33.58 | Beladona | what happened to it? |
| 21:35.02 | cladhaire | season 3 happened to it |
| 21:41.51 | deltron | lol |
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| 21:51.13 | ScytheBlade1 | I realized why I read the PTR forums |
| 21:51.26 | ScytheBlade1 | There's an excess of morons who are easy to troll with no repurcussion |
| 21:51.55 | Beladona | fyi to those of you wondering why wdn isn't updated yet. I have been working REALLY hard on wdn 2.0 |
| 21:52.16 | Beladona | http://wdnaddons.com |
| 21:52.21 | Beladona | thats a preview |
| 21:52.32 | Beladona | the actual compare isn't functional yet, but will be by tomorrow |
| 21:52.54 | Beladona | this is all svn generated which makes things super easy for me |
| 21:53.26 | malreth | Beladona: i won't pretend to understand anything that you say... but at the very least the website looks really nice. :D |
| 21:53.34 | Beladona | thanks |
| 21:53.42 | Beladona | svn is a versioning system |
| 21:53.52 | Lunessa | Anyone heard of wowmatrix.com before? |
| 21:54.04 | malreth | SVN? |
| 21:54.06 | malreth | ~malreth |
| 21:54.06 | purl | never take malreth seriously |
| 21:54.30 | malreth | you can take the complement seriously, however |
| 21:54.31 | Beladona | subversion |
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| 21:54.36 | Beladona | oh |
| 21:54.37 | malreth | unless i'm lying right now |
| 21:54.57 | Beladona | wowmatrix? I get the impression none of those addons are user-submitted? |
| 21:55.01 | wereHamster | oh like anyone would trust wowmatrix.com: All files have been virus-scanned. |
| 21:55.14 | ScytheBlade1 | Beladona: *very* well done - nice job, thanks :) |
| 21:55.26 | wereHamster | and just right of that: Make 200g per Hour Video Proof! |
| 21:55.27 | ScytheBlade1 | I use the WDN instead of looking at local copies of files... ;) |
| 21:55.36 | Lunessa | I'm just curious - I've never heard of them and suddenly I have guildees raving about this 'updater" |
| 21:55.53 | deltron | heh wowmatrix looks a little fishy |
| 21:56.02 | malreth | Lunessa: nothing can be done to help those guild mates... they've already been 'podded' |
| 21:56.04 | Beladona | what is so hard about indexing addons from other sites, but sending people to those sites to download them? Why do *new* addon sites have to download everything and post them themselves... |
| 21:56.12 | malreth | it's best to kill them quickly and mercifully |
| 21:56.14 | Beladona | ugh |
| 21:56.18 | Drea | OK i'm back, lemme do a pastey for u. |
| 21:57.55 | malreth | to their credit... at least they have a mac version of their updater. *thumbs up* |
| 21:58.10 | malreth | they can't be all bad... |
| 21:58.28 | Cairenn | wowmatrix came up in here a while back |
| 21:58.37 | Cairenn | this, otoh, I like: http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=3120935646&postId=31206450931&sid=1#2 |
| 21:58.52 | Drea | http://wowi.pastey.net/78142 |
| 21:59.01 | Drea | it's the last function that's givin me the error. |
| 21:59.11 | Drea | line 130 |
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| 22:02.11 | bleeter | ok, someone shoot me |
| 22:02.16 | JoshBorke | ~shoot bleeter |
| 22:02.17 | purl | ACTION shoots bleeter in the eye with a cork gun! |
| 22:02.22 | ScytheBlade1 | ~shoot bleeter |
| 22:02.23 | purl | ACTION shoots bleeter in the foot with a spitwad! |
| 22:02.24 | bleeter | I didn't install Maelstrom after upgrading my OS last night >< |
| 22:02.26 | Cairenn | and wuu is nice |
| 22:02.51 | Cairenn | (mostly) |
| 22:05.40 | Xuerian | wereHamster: Isn't hard to make 200g/hour. How many hours in a row you can make 200g comes into question |
| 22:07.37 | Drea | hmm. i did toNumber(currentNum) and wow poped an error sayin attempt to call global toNumber(a nil value) |
| 22:07.45 | ScytheBlade1 | tonumber |
| 22:07.47 | ScytheBlade1 | not toNumber |
| 22:08.00 | Drea | oh ok |
| 22:09.20 | Drea | hmm. did that, fixed that error, and enclosed the for loop in an if statement. if(type(currentNum)=="number") then.. and still got the error for limit must be a nubmer. :( |
| 22:10.05 | ScytheBlade1 | Lua 5.0.2 Copyright (C) 1994-2004 Tecgraf, PUC-Rio |
| 22:10.05 | ScytheBlade1 | > print (tonumber("80")); |
| 22:10.05 | ScytheBlade1 | 80 |
| 22:10.07 | ScytheBlade1 | Works here |
| 22:10.52 | sag_ich_nicht | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PNXElmEUIJo o_O 721 bpm |
| 22:11.21 | malreth | Drea: when does LevelRangeAndZone[i][3] get assigned a value? |
| 22:11.39 | Drea | http://wowi.pastey.net/78146 check out the pastey, |
| 22:11.52 | Drea | it's line 132 that's giving the error, the table is setup at the top. |
| 22:12.23 | malreth | gah... pastey.net is stupid slow... |
| 22:12.34 | Drea | i know it. is there somethin faster? |
| 22:13.21 | malreth | GAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAGGGGGHHHHH!!!!!! |
| 22:13.24 | malreth | i can't take it... |
| 22:13.53 | Drea | The way i've got it setup now. i get no error, but it does go into the else, and prints out the message. :( |
| 22:13.58 | bleeter | hmmm, pastey slow eh? |
| 22:14.07 | malreth | ok... |
| 22:15.50 | bleeter | we're still tuning the servers after the migration, so I suspect there's a problem still somewhere ;) |
| 22:17.35 | Drea | gah, can i just send the file to ya? lol |
| 22:17.36 | ScytheBlade1 | lol, more taunting of the Orcs and their (previous) small shoulders: http://img410.imageshack.us/img410/3589/gnomeshouldersizefe5.jpg |
| 22:17.59 | bleeter | is pastey quicker for you after visiting http://www.pastey.net/ISwearIAmNotASpammer.php ? |
| 22:18.15 | cladhaire | lol |
| 22:18.20 | cladhaire | yes |
| 22:18.21 | cladhaire | actually |
| 22:18.22 | malreth | Drea: by the time you reach line 130, how do you even know that currentNumSteps has been assigned a value? |
| 22:18.24 | Cairenn | rofl |
| 22:18.42 | bleeter | cladhaire: was that yes directed to me? |
| 22:18.46 | Drea | boom. works great now. thanks bleeter |
| 22:18.49 | ScytheBlade1 | ... much faster |
| 22:18.57 | cladhaire | yes it was |
| 22:18.59 | cladhaire | made a big difference |
| 22:19.21 | bleeter | ok, we'll investigate improving it |
| 22:19.41 | Drea | hmm. well i assigned it on line 128, and update don't get called unless there's a value in the second dropdown... |
| 22:19.42 | Beladona | Drea: should that function be creating a checkbox for each entry? |
| 22:19.43 | bleeter | as you can no doubt guess, it's not meant to be impossible to reach without knowing that special secret URL ;) |
| 22:19.48 | Drea | yup. |
| 22:20.03 | Drea | haven't placed those yet though. |
| 22:20.09 | Beladona | you are setting currentNumSteps 36 times, then doing your for loop |
| 22:20.22 | ScytheBlade1 | I enjoy the text that page gives you in response |
| 22:20.26 | Beladona | after it has already gone through all the sets |
| 22:20.29 | Drea | hmm. stupid. i just wanna do it once. |
| 22:20.39 | Beladona | for the last entry? |
| 22:21.24 | Drea | i just wanna set current num steps once. when it hits the entry that corresponds to the current value of the LevelRangeAndZoneDrop Down. |
| 22:21.38 | sag_ich_nicht | You are now breathing manually. |
| 22:21.41 | Beladona | oh I see what you are doing |
| 22:21.42 | Drea | which should only correspond to one entry in the table. |
| 22:22.09 | Drea | i'm sure there's a more elegant way to do it.. but i don't know it. lol |
| 22:22.34 | Beladona | I can think of a few ways, but I would rather make this way work |
| 22:22.41 | Beladona | hehe |
| 22:23.15 | Drea | for the record tho... that message "There are _ number of steps in this level range and zone" never prints out. which means currentNumSteps never gets assigned..:( |
| 22:23.18 | Beladona | question: are you going to reference LevelRangeAndZone outside of this file? |
| 22:23.21 | Drea | just realized that |
| 22:23.22 | Beladona | ever |
| 22:23.31 | malreth | Drea: that's what i was getting at |
| 22:23.33 | Drea | nope. not that i know of. |
| 22:23.37 | Beladona | make them local then |
| 22:23.54 | Drea | the tables? |
| 22:23.56 | Beladona | for starters |
| 22:23.57 | Beladona | yeah |
| 22:24.13 | Drea | ok. |
| 22:24.42 | Drea | did that. stell sayin it's not a number. |
| 22:24.54 | Beladona | yeah thats a different problem |
| 22:24.54 | Drea | s\stell\still |
| 22:25.06 | Beladona | I mentioend the local thing for performance reasons |
| 22:25.19 | Drea | oh ok. lol. as u can tell i'm kinda a newbie to addon programming. lol |
| 22:25.33 | malreth | the problem is that your for loop just falls through without doing anything |
| 22:25.41 | Drea | truly |
| 22:25.51 | Drea | any idea what i'm doin wrong? |
| 22:25.57 | Beladona | it shouldn't even do the loop unless its a number |
| 22:26.00 | Beladona | which it is |
| 22:26.05 | Beladona | yet the loop fails saying it isn't |
| 22:26.10 | Drea | no the first loop. |
| 22:26.11 | malreth | clearly, LevelRangeAndZone[i][2] never equals currentDD2Val |
| 22:26.23 | Beladona | right |
| 22:26.35 | malreth | which means likely that currentDD2Val isn't being set to the value that you think it should be |
| 22:26.37 | Beladona | which means currentNumSteps doesn't get set |
| 22:26.49 | Beladona | but that still shouldn't throw an error |
| 22:27.06 | Beladona | try this |
| 22:27.11 | Drea | yup. and i've tried assigning currentDD2Val to UIDropDown_GetText(LGLevelRangeDD) instead of GetSelectedValue and still no dice |
| 22:27.27 | Beladona | get rid of line 130 |
| 22:27.37 | Beladona | no need to have both that and the type check |
| 22:27.44 | mikma | http://www.curse.com/downloads/details/9689/ <- go go gadget curse |
| 22:27.54 | Drea | true. |
| 22:28.13 | Drea | that was just there till i can figger out what the heck is goin on |
| 22:28.32 | ScytheBlade1 | Oh snap |
| 22:28.38 | Beladona | on line 122, set currentNumSteps to 0 |
| 22:28.39 | ScytheBlade1 | They're banning those they found that were win trading |
| 22:29.23 | Beladona | and tell me if it still fails |
| 22:29.30 | malreth | i dunno... i think there's a logic error further up |
| 22:29.54 | Beladona | I don't understand how it can even run the for loop |
| 22:30.01 | Beladona | if currentNumSteps isn't there |
| 22:30.11 | malreth | http://wowi.pastey.net/78147 |
| 22:30.17 | malreth | i can't get it to load up... |
| 22:30.23 | Drea | YAY! |
| 22:30.25 | Drea | It worked! |
| 22:30.33 | malreth | ah... |
| 22:30.38 | Drea | course the buttons aren't loading. lol |
| 22:30.52 | Beladona | thats because the first for loop never runs |
| 22:31.01 | malreth | i added a debug output to line 122 |
| 22:31.02 | Drea | oh. duh |
| 22:31.08 | malreth | check out my last pastey |
| 22:31.36 | Beladona | good idea, throw that in there |
| 22:31.42 | Drea | lemme see |
| 22:31.44 | malreth | i haven't really had time to step through your code but that's my hunch just looking at it |
| 22:33.01 | Drea | OMG. it was the wrong Dropdown. put in the right one, and poofed right into the for loop and gave me a checkbox error. |
| 22:33.05 | Beladona | should it default to something if it can't get that value? |
| 22:33.13 | deltron | GG |
| 22:33.14 | malreth | bingo |
| 22:33.23 | Drea | unknown Frame Type "CheckBox" |
| 22:33.30 | Beladona | local currentDD2Val = UIDropDownMenu_GetSelectedValue(LGLevelRangeDD) or whateverthisshoulddefaultto; |
| 22:34.17 | malreth | ok Drea... that should give you something to work with... enjoy figuring that one out |
| 22:34.20 | malreth | gotta go |
| 22:34.45 | Drea | Thanks! |
| 22:35.08 | Drea | I had LevelRangeDD in there instead of LevelRangeZoneDD. :( |
| 22:35.14 | Beladona | woot |
| 22:35.45 | Drea | now i'm gettin that FrameType Error, what's the frame type for a checkbox? |
| 22:37.10 | Beladona | CheckButton |
| 22:37.42 | Drea | ahh ok |
| 22:38.12 | Beladona | heading home. see you all tomorrow |
| 22:38.17 | Beladona | good luck Drea |
| 22:38.52 | Drea | Thanks loads Beladona, i appreciate the help |
| 22:38.59 | Cairenn | night Beladona |
| 22:40.25 | Cairenn | off to get my flu shot (bleh) - later all |
| 22:40.36 | Drea | enjoy Cairenn |
| 22:41.16 | Drea | blah, not placin. :( |
| 22:42.11 | Drea | not showin any buttons blast it. |
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| 23:00.34 | Drea | x is width, and y is height right? |
| 23:01.04 | zenzelezz | yes |
| 23:01.10 | Drea | thanks |
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| 23:14.19 | ScytheBlade1 | Antiarc: okay, that release schedule works too :) |
| 23:14.26 | Antiarc | Heheh |
| 23:14.37 | Antiarc | I honestly am not responsible for most of the Omen updates these days. >_> |
| 23:14.48 | ScytheBlade1 | So go work on Sanity2! /slap |
| 23:14.59 | Antiarc | I am working on things that actually make me money! |
| 23:15.07 | ScytheBlade1 | Kidding. It's actually working fine for me recently |
| 23:15.11 | Antiarc | Once I am fantastically rich I will make Sanity2 awesome incarnate |
| 23:15.12 | ScytheBlade1 | And I give you much <3 as a result |
| 23:15.20 | Antiarc | :) |
| 23:15.28 | Antiarc | I can't take credit. I've had a few people patch it up for me |
| 23:15.30 | Antiarc | So <3 to them! |
| 23:15.36 | ScytheBlade1 | Pass it around! |
| 23:15.45 | ScytheBlade1 | Actually I do have one question |
| 23:15.51 | ScytheBlade1 | How is the bank history kept? |
| 23:16.06 | ScytheBlade1 | I've noticed some times that my tooltips have bank details, and others, it doesn't |
| 23:16.11 | ScytheBlade1 | Others it simply doesn't update |
| 23:16.15 | Antiarc | SanityItemCache watches your inventory and bank |
| 23:16.19 | Antiarc | It might be buggy :P |
| 23:16.27 | Antiarc | s/might be/likely is/ |
| 23:16.32 | ScytheBlade1 | Ha, fair enough |
| 23:16.48 | ScytheBlade1 | The one thing I've noticed - if I don't open my bank, and then logout |
| 23:16.55 | ScytheBlade1 | Upon next login, that bank data doesn't appear |
| 23:17.01 | Antiarc | Interesting. |
| 23:17.13 | ScytheBlade1 | Lemme test again real quick |
| 23:17.13 | Antiarc | I'll keep that in mind when I get back to it :) |
| 23:17.25 | Atriace | You know, I could've sworn I saw a post regarding WoW Scaling to a 1024x768 grid relative to any resolution. Can't.... find.... it. |
| 23:17.28 | ScytheBlade1 | Well, don't keep it in mind quite yet :) |
| 23:17.58 | Lunessa | Antiarc: Ahhh.. I love Sanity for 1 feature. The one that adds item counts to tooltips and lets me know who has what. :D |
| 23:18.20 | ScytheBlade1 | qft |
| 23:18.31 | Lunessa | Search on Iriel's name . He's posted it a number of times. |
| 23:19.09 | Antiarc | I really need to rewrite Sanity now that I am not as dumb as I was when I wrote Sanity2 |
| 23:19.15 | Antiarc | Because it's sorta stupid right now |
| 23:19.18 | Antiarc | And could be a lot better |
| 23:19.36 | ScytheBlade1 | Sanity3! |
| 23:19.40 | Antiarc | Purty much. |
| 23:19.47 | Antiarc | Maybe for WotLK |
| 23:19.52 | Antiarc | Since I wrote Sanity2 for BC |
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| 23:20.07 | ScytheBlade1 | lol |
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| 23:20.35 | Lunessa | I'm not using it now, but I miss that one feature. :) |
| 23:20.48 | ScytheBlade1 | That's really the only reason I use it. |
| 23:21.00 | Antiarc | Heh, I'm not using it either |
| 23:21.11 | Antiarc | Mostly because it is stupid and annoys me |
| 23:21.14 | Antiarc | And I don't have time to fix it |
| 23:21.22 | Antiarc | So yes. A less stupid sanity would be nice. |
| 23:21.27 | ScytheBlade1 | Eh, weird, can't duplicate that. |
| 23:22.42 | Antiarc | I'm gonna have to write a death knight module for Threat :O |
| 23:22.58 | ScytheBlade1 | lol |
| 23:23.06 | Antiarc | Which will promise to be a pain in the ass since Blizzard likes to use funky mechanics for spell-based tank htreat |
| 23:23.14 | ScytheBlade1 | Death Knights make me wonder... |
| 23:23.18 | Antiarc | See: Prot paladins. Screw you very much, Righteous Defense. |
| 23:23.26 | deltron | lawl |
| 23:23.33 | ScytheBlade1 | I mean, we have far too many clueless morons at 70 who don't know their own class |
| 23:23.41 | ScytheBlade1 | And now we're going to give people level 50+ characters to START with? |
| 23:23.43 | Lunessa | mmmm.. isn't new combat log stuff going to make you need to re-work threat lib anyway? |
| 23:24.59 | ScytheBlade1 | Yeah, he'll watch for a single event instead of 50+, and then set a bitmask flag to 0xFFFFFFFF. |
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| 23:25.02 | ScytheBlade1 | Bam. |
| 23:25.12 | Kelfarr | most noobs won't be able to do the quest to get the deathknight anway |
| 23:25.33 | Kelfarr | its probably going to be a retard check like do an instance in the certain time or something |
| 23:25.36 | ScytheBlade1 | Kelfarr: most recent "word on the street" (by blues) is that they'll simply give you one as soon as you reach a certain level. |
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| 23:26.44 | Antiarc | Lunessa: Yes, Threat's going to get a pretty good overhaul for 2.4 |
| 23:26.51 | Antiarc | But it's going to be an awesome overhaul |
| 23:26.56 | Antiarc | Since we'll have true multi-mob threat lists |
| 23:27.12 | Lunessa | I already <3 Threat and Omen - so I'm psyched. |
| 23:27.35 | deltron | that will be awesome Antiarc |
| 23:27.53 | alestane | I know the ability to distinguish multiple instances of the same mob is something threat and damage meter authors have been drooling over. |
| 23:28.00 | Kelfarr | wow i love saeto's new Ui so muc |
| 23:28.02 | Kelfarr | much |
| 23:28.14 | deltron | wut? |
| 23:28.22 | Antiarc | Due to Threat's existing design, I don't think it's going to be hard to translate it to 2.4, either. |
| 23:28.59 | Antiarc | I just have to write a combat log interface to couple with my existing interface, and I already do index-based lists, so I just switch to the mob ID for the list index, and store a mob ID-mob name lookup table. |
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| 23:29.08 | Antiarc | Tada, fin. |
| 23:29.23 | alestane | It *sounds* easy... |
| 23:29.30 | JoshBorke | *cough*healcap*cough* |
| 23:30.03 | Antiarc | Heh, it'll take work, but it isn't going to be a complete rewrite or anything |
| 23:30.19 | Antiarc | Healcap would be borked due to earth shield/lifebloom/prayer of mending anyway >_> |
| 23:30.56 | alestane | It probably will be *comparatively* easy...just I've found that these things never turn out to be as easy in practice as they look on paper. |
| 23:30.57 | JoshBorke | ignore prayer of mending and lifebloom and earth shield =P |
| 23:31.12 | Drea | arrrgh. |
| 23:31.32 | deltron | :( |
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| 23:31.44 | alestane | ~seen Iriel |
| 23:31.49 | purl | iriel <n=Iriel@adsl-71-158-244-138.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowi-lounge, 15h 32m 50s ago, saying: 'yeah'. |
| 23:31.51 | Drea | anyone wanna see if they canhelp? |
| 23:32.06 | Drea | I can't get the checkboxes, and buttons to show up. :( |
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| 23:32.22 | alestane | Validate your XML. |
| 23:32.29 | alestane | </useless> |
| 23:32.47 | Atriace | How does AbsDimension fit into a resolution independent UI scale? If max height is 768, then would AbsDimension y="386" equal 50% of the screen height? |
| 23:33.24 | alestane | The coordinate system is normalized to a virtual screen, so AIUI it should be. |
| 23:33.37 | Atriace | AIUI? |
| 23:33.45 | alestane | "As I Understand It." |
| 23:33.48 | Atriace | ah |
| 23:34.01 | Drea | http://wowi.pastey.net/78150 THe last function, it goes into the loop, goes thru it, prints out the addmessage |
| 23:34.14 | Drea | but the buttons and checkboxes dont show up anywhere. |
| 23:34.47 | alestane | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:35.03 | alestane | :IsVisible(), :GetTop(), etc. |
| 23:36.18 | Drea | any ideas what i'm doin wrong? |
| 23:37.11 | alestane | I presume you have Lua errors turned on? |
| 23:37.26 | Drea | yeah, not gettin any |
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| 23:38.35 | alestane | Are built-in button textures automatically "setAllPoints"? Usually when I make a texture I have to declare its size and anchor it to the frame. |
| 23:38.40 | JoshBorke | drea: are the buttons actually created? |
| 23:39.30 | alestane | Well, one presumes that if they weren't all the method calls would fail with "attempt to index a nil value". |
| 23:40.15 | alestane | Still ChatFram1:AddMessage("Step1CheckBox") might be in order. |
| 23:40.20 | alestane | ChatFrame* |
| 23:40.34 | JoshBorke | yes, but if they exist then he can create them then try to move them around and test other things, etc |
| 23:40.56 | JoshBorke | drea: also, why don't you inherit the properties you want each button to have? so you don't have to define it yourself |
| 23:40.59 | Drea | i have no idea. :( i will try addin the message there. |
| 23:41.21 | Drea | i'm not sure how to do the inheriting. |
| 23:41.22 | alestane | Don't add it to your addon, just /run it in your chat line after your addon loads. |
| 23:44.51 | Drea | so /run ChatFrame1:AddMessage("Step1CheckBox") ? |
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| 23:46.17 | JoshBorke | drea: i'd like to take this time to recommend a mod called WoWLua and TinyPad, both help developing a lot because they let you run lua code in teh game without reloading all the time |
| 23:47.24 | Drea | it puts 'Step1CheckBox' in the chat frame. |
| 23:47.35 | kd3 | ahahaha.... |
| 23:47.43 | kd3 | "Anyone missing their bags of marijuana or knows how these bags made their way onto the roadside is asked to contact the Florida Highway Patrol at (813) 631-4020." |
| 23:47.48 | kd3 | http://www2.tbo.com/content/2007/nov/27/i-4-cleanup-crew-finds-60-pounds-pot/?news-breaking |
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| 23:48.23 | Drea | yeah, i tried, and it's almost just as easy to hit reload ui. lol |
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| 23:48.53 | JoshBorke | drea: type /run ChatFrame1:AddMessage(getglobal("Step1CheckBox"):GetName()) |
| 23:49.07 | Drea | ah right on. one sec |
| 23:49.35 | Drea | says 'Step1CheckBox' |
| 23:49.56 | Drea | so it's creating them but not displaying them/ |
| 23:49.58 | Drea | ? |
| 23:50.02 | alestane | My bad, I meant :AddMessage(Step1CheckBox) |
| 23:50.35 | Tem|AFK | JoshBorke, why would you use getglobal there? |
| 23:50.57 | malreth|afk | Drea: still working on that code from earlier? |
| 23:51.08 | JoshBorke | Tem|AFK: meh, i don't know |
| 23:51.23 | JoshBorke | Drea: now try /run Step1CheckBox:ClearAllPoints() |
| 23:51.24 | Tem|AFK | I laugh at you |
| 23:51.38 | JoshBorke | then /run Step1CheckBox:SetPoint("CENTER", UIParent, "CENTER", 0,0) |
| 23:51.42 | Drea | yup. the checkboxes and buttons aren't showin up mal |
| 23:51.51 | alestane | Where does something go if it has no anchor points? |
| 23:52.04 | JoshBorke | alestane: no where |
| 23:52.06 | JoshBorke | it's not rendered |
| 23:52.16 | JoshBorke | afaik |
| 23:52.55 | Drea | still nothin. :( |
| 23:53.45 | alestane | Got it! |
| 23:53.50 | Drea | that should have put it right in the middle of the screen right josh? |
| 23:53.54 | JoshBorke | drea: yes |
| 23:54.12 | alestane | In the :Set{blah} texture() lines, replace the quotes around the filenames with [[ and ]] |
| 23:54.22 | Drea | didn't do nothin. :( |
| 23:54.26 | JoshBorke | alestane: wait, you're close |
| 23:54.31 | alestane | Or change the \s to /s |
| 23:54.35 | JoshBorke | drea: \ should be \\ |
| 23:54.40 | alestane | Either one works. |
| 23:54.41 | Drea | woah. |
| 23:54.50 | Drea | ok. i'll do the [[]] thing |
| 23:55.14 | malreth | whoa... there are some craaaaaazy suggestions here |
| 23:55.42 | alestane | The problem you're having is that \B and \U are being treated as excape sequences. |
| 23:55.58 | alestane | There are about three ways to deal with that. |
| 23:55.58 | malreth | Drea: do you have a link to the latest pastey? |
| 23:56.13 | Drea | sure one sec |
| 23:56.15 | JoshBorke | malreth: what addons did you write? |
| 23:56.51 | malreth | MazzlegasmInterruptus and StopTheSpam! two mostly completely useless addons nowadays |
| 23:56.52 | Drea | yay! puts em up there, but no writing on em. |
| 23:57.17 | alestane | :SetText doesn't work for CheckButtons. |
| 23:57.22 | Drea | http://wowi.pastey.net/78153 |
| 23:57.28 | Drea | oh i know. there's buttons there too |
| 23:57.35 | JoshBorke | Drea: SetText doesn't work for normal buttons or checkbuttons |
| 23:57.47 | alestane | _G[c:GetName().."Text"]:SetText(name) |
| 23:57.50 | JoshBorke | Drea: SetText only works for blizzard inherited buttons/checkbuttons or ones you set up yourself |
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| 23:58.50 | malreth | i've also written a few addons that i use just for myself |
| 23:59.09 | malreth | my favorite is called Defabricator which makes anyone that I /inspect nekkid |
| 23:59.12 | malreth | i love that one |
| 23:59.16 | JoshBorke | lol |
| 23:59.34 | malreth | trust me... you don't WANT me writing addons for you |
| 23:59.41 | alestane | You've seen one naked night elf, you've seen them all. |
| 23:59.51 | malreth | alestane: you'd think that! |
