| 00:00.18 | Esamynn|Work | ~lart art3mis |
| 00:00.18 | purl | nukes art3mis with a single large nuke |
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| 00:01.44 | Shirik | as opposed to like |
| 00:01.46 | Shirik | 20 nukes |
| 00:01.54 | Shirik | slightly overkill but whatever |
| 00:02.44 | Esamynn|Work | nah, art3mis has this shield, that regenerates really fast if you give it any sort of break, so it had to be one powerful blast |
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| 00:45.57 | |Jelly| | Don't you love people that join the group and try to take shit over? |
| 00:46.06 | |Jelly| | "You're a druid. You can heal" roflamo |
| 00:46.32 | pez| | 0.o |
| 00:46.48 | |Jelly| | 2100 mana. 500 mana heal. Math is fun. |
| 00:47.10 | |Jelly| | !c us velen serinety |
| 00:47.10 | mikma | yeah ^^ |
| 00:47.13 | ThraeBot | |Jelly|: Serinety, Level 44 Night Elf Warrior (35/0/0). 2304 HP; 3197 Armour; 388 AP; 74.400 Melee DPS; 11.74% melee crit; 7.41% dodge; 4.88% block; 10 nature resist (+10);[[ TBR: 485 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/ywyp28 ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/2rbf77 ][ Updated: Fri Nov 23 15:53:47 2007 EST ]] |
| 00:47.13 | foxlit | clearly fail, |Jelly|, everyone else levelled as Restoration! |
| 00:47.21 | Esamynn|Work | |Jelly|: I'd tell them to STFU |
| 00:47.29 | Esamynn|Work | ~lart foxlit |
| 00:47.29 | purl | drops a truckload of VAXen on foxlit |
| 00:47.35 | mikma | i just tell them "no thanks" |
| 00:47.41 | |Jelly| | Hey look! An arms warrior telling me to heal. *coughs* |
| 00:47.47 | foxlit | Oddly enough, people mostly ask me to tank |
| 00:47.49 | mikma | i'll rather level with my friend than go into instances with pugs |
| 00:47.55 | foxlit | Heroics, no less |
| 00:48.35 | foxlit | "Do you actually want to die painfully over and over again, or did you just do /who 70 druid?" |
| 00:48.48 | |Jelly| | I love bear tanks as my priest |
| 00:50.12 | Kaso | i wish /who showed spec |
| 00:50.14 | foxlit | It's imbadps, but I need a pocket paladin :( |
| 00:50.16 | Kaso | i'd make life easier |
| 00:50.24 | |Jelly| | Yeah it would. |
| 00:50.39 | foxlit | You can do it, too. |
| 00:50.56 | foxlit | Evil strings attached, but probably possible |
| 00:52.08 | foxlit | Need a generic information-storing network in wow :/ |
| 00:52.56 | foxlit | wonder if you could implement something like DHT for generic storage; |
| 00:53.19 | mikma | respecing talents should be next to free for levels less than 60 :P |
| 00:53.56 | mikma | arms warrior tanking instances? feral druids healing? shadowpriests healing? .. |
| 00:54.08 | Kaso | SlashCmdList["WHO"] = function(msg) .... elseif ( msg == "cheat" ) then -- Remove the "cheat" part later! |
| 00:54.09 | Kaso | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:54.12 | Kaso | thats interesting |
| 00:56.56 | art3mis | wait hold on |
| 00:57.00 | art3mis | druids can heal? |
| 00:57.16 | |Jelly| | nou |
| 00:57.35 | art3mis | i thought the only healing classes were pallys and shaman |
| 00:58.20 | foxlit | 3x lifebloom is like cake |
| 00:58.23 | foxlit | ... A LIE! |
| 00:58.35 | mikma | a delicious lie |
| 00:58.37 | art3mis | cake isnt a lie! |
| 00:58.51 | art3mis | cake or death |
| 00:58.54 | art3mis | cake pelase |
| 00:58.59 | foxlit | simplify this |
| 00:59.04 | foxlit | return setmetatable(sroot, {__index=function(i,k)return type(t[k]) == "table" and shadows[t[k]] or (type(rawget(t, k)) == "function" and shadowMethod(t, sroot, t[k]) or t[k]); end}); |
| 00:59.13 | art3mis | simplified: die |
| 00:59.21 | mikma | ok: C-K-E. cake! |
| 00:59.45 | |Jelly| | http://www.penny-arcade.com/images/2005/20051102l.jpg |
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| 02:06.55 | Furl | Quick, : Priest addon that shows a bar of how much bubble absorbtion you have left? |
| 02:07.35 | art3mis | furl: if its hit you more than twice it's gone ;P |
| 02:07.40 | art3mis | heh |
| 02:08.07 | Furl | What about lower levels? ;) |
| 02:12.40 | Cide | CT_ShieldMod did that one upon a time! |
| 02:20.16 | Rayne | @_@ |
| 02:20.29 | Rayne | ive jumped my hunter 9 levels in about 4 days... |
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| 02:21.58 | Kaso | Cide taunts me with his CT_ShieldMod |
| 02:22.00 | Kaso | So many times ive asked for it to be fixed up for 5.1 but alas nothing :< |
| 02:23.13 | art3mis | have you thought about hooking up with his gf and posting pictures on the web ? |
| 02:23.17 | art3mis | i bet that would work |
| 02:23.26 | Kaso | ^_- |
| 02:23.52 | Kaso | (comedy option) Eww sweadish girls, no way! |
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| 02:40.43 | |Jelly| | Anyone else not able to log into the forums? |
| 02:41.26 | Shirik | you got banned again |
| 02:41.44 | Furl | I cannot. |
| 02:41.45 | Shirik | can someone explain to me how the individual ratings work for arenas? |
| 02:41.55 | Furl | , Jelly. |
| 02:42.08 | Furl | Login error, since midday yesterday. |
| 02:45.48 | Kelfarr | shirik you get a rating based on how well you do in the games you play not your team |
| 02:46.03 | Kelfarr | so if you play 3 games a week and lose them all and then 2 other people play 7 games and win them all |
| 02:46.08 | Kelfarr | their rank is higher than yours |
| 02:52.34 | Shirik | ok |
| 02:52.39 | Shirik | how does this influence points? |
| 02:56.49 | Furl | It doesn't? |
| 02:57.15 | Shirik | ok then what is its purpose? |
| 02:57.58 | Codayus | Shirik: It's used to check if your qualified for certain prestige rewards. |
| 02:58.06 | Codayus | Notably S3 weapons, shoulders, and mounts. |
| 02:58.11 | Shirik | ok |
| 02:58.17 | Furl | !vs us Gorefiend Chekmate us gorefiend ashmodeus |
| 02:58.25 | Shirik | thanks |
| 02:58.26 | ThraeBot | Furl: Chekmate vs Ashmodeus! Two 70 warlocks square off!; Ashmodeus wins by 749 TBRs! ***OWNED!*** |
| 02:58.33 | Furl | Harharhar |
| 02:58.50 | Shirik | !co us gorefiend chekmate us gorefiend ashmodeus |
| 02:58.50 | ThraeBot | Shirik: Chekmate vs Ashmodeus! Two 70 warlocks compare their stat differences; Chekmate ++3708 HP; Chekmate ++0.33% dodge; Ashmodeus ++126 +spelldmg; Chekmate ++648 Armour; Ashmodeus ++80 fire dmg; Ashmodeus ++26 spell crit; Ashmodeus ++134 frost dmg; Ashmodeus ++187 shadow dmg; Chekmate ++912 Mana; Chekmate ++57 mana regen; Ashmodeus ++106 spell hit; Chekmate ++105 resilience; Chekmate ++25 All R |
| 02:58.50 | ThraeBot | esists; Chekmate ++30 mp5; Ashmodeus has 6% more stats then Chekmate. |
| 02:59.26 | Shirik | 4k more hp? |
| 02:59.26 | Shirik | damn. |
| 02:59.28 | Furl | !c us gorefiend ashmodeus |
| 02:59.28 | ThraeBot | Furl: Ashmodeus, Level 70 Undead Warlock (0/21/40). 10475 HP; 9064 Mana; 108 mana regen; 263 spell crit; 211 spell hit; 1211 +spell dmg; 134 frost dmg (1345); 187 shadow dmg (1398); 80 fire dmg (1291); 4.51% dodge; 34 resilience; 10 shadow resist (+10);[[ TBR: 1475 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/2xpsew ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/3a7dme ][ Updated: Fri Nov 23 18:05:00 2007 EST ]] |
| 02:59.46 | Furl | !c us gorefiend chekmate |
| 02:59.46 | ThraeBot | Furl: Chekmate, Level 70 Undead Warlock (0/21/40). 14183 HP; 9976 Mana; 165 mana regen; 30 mp5; 237 spell crit; 105 spell hit; 1085 +spell dmg; 4.84% dodge; 139 resilience; 10 shadow resist (+10); +25 all resists (+10 shadow);[[ TBR: 732 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/2d5bpd ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/2npgap ][ Updated: Fri Nov 23 18:04:54 2007 EST ]] |
| 02:59.49 | |Jelly| | !c us burning legion jellykin |
| 02:59.50 | ThraeBot | |Jelly|: jellykin is not the character you are looking for! |
| 02:59.58 | |Jelly| | Actually, it is. |
| 03:00.07 | Furl | no space in server name |
| 03:00.14 | |Jelly| | Yeah there is |
| 03:00.15 | Shirik | no, |Jelly|'s right |
| 03:00.22 | Shirik | what level is he |Jelly|? |
| 03:00.24 | Furl | !c us burninglegion jellykin |
| 03:00.24 | ThraeBot | Furl: jellykin is not the character you are looking for! |
| 03:00.26 | |Jelly| | 1 :P |
| 03:00.33 | Furl | DUH |
| 03:00.34 | Shirik | that'd do it :P |
| 03:00.36 | Furl | lol |
| 03:00.42 | Furl | !c us doomhammer koweia |
| 03:00.44 | ThraeBot | Furl: Koweia, Level 17 Draenei Shaman (0/6/1). 480 HP; 621 Mana; 60 mana regen; 5.64% melee crit; 4.72% dodge; 4.84% block; 10 shadow resist (+10);[[ TBR: 141 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/yv7w5p ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/37mhd7 ][ Updated: Fri Nov 23 18:07:19 2007 EST ]] |
| 03:01.02 | Shirik | !c us drenden Shirina |
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| 03:01.05 | ThraeBot | Shirik: Shirina, Level 11 Tauren Warrior (0/1/0). 283 HP; 558 Armour; 93 AP; 6.32% melee crit; 4.25% dodge; 4.88% block; 10 nature resist (+10);[[ TBR: 60 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/266j3y ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/38zn98 ][ Updated: Fri Nov 23 18:07:39 2007 EST ]] |
| 03:01.22 | |Jelly| | !vs us velen shirina us drenden shirina |
| 03:01.22 | ThraeBot | |Jelly|: I failed on the first listed character. You fail. |
| 03:01.28 | |Jelly| | Yeah...I do |
| 03:01.37 | Furl | ~art Jelly |
| 03:01.40 | |Jelly| | !vs us velen shalyn us drenden shirina |
| 03:01.40 | Furl | DAMMIT |
| 03:01.41 | ThraeBot | |Jelly|: Shalyn vs Shirina! Shalyn has +36 lvls on Shirina (47 vs 11); A L47 druid and a L11 warrior square off!; 0/38/0 vs 0/1/0; Shalyn wins by 214 TBRs! |
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| 03:01.51 | |Jelly| | kek |
| 03:02.03 | Shirik | only 213? |
| 03:02.05 | Shirik | 214* |
| 03:02.10 | |Jelly| | Yeah. That's what I'm keking at. |
| 03:02.12 | Furl | !vs us velen shalyn us doomhammer koweia |
| 03:02.12 | ThraeBot | Furl: Shalyn vs Koweia! Shalyn has +30 lvls on Koweia (47 vs 17); A L47 druid and a L17 shaman square off!; 0/38/0 vs 0/6/1; Shalyn wins by 190 TBRs! |
| 03:02.30 | Furl | !vs us velen shalyn us eonar lounen |
| 03:02.30 | ThraeBot | Sorry Furl, you must wait 237 seconds before making another request. |
| 03:02.33 | |Jelly| | !c us velen shalyn |
| 03:02.34 | ThraeBot | |Jelly|: Shalyn, Level 47 Night Elf Druid (0/38/0). 1681 HP; 2104 Mana; 84 mana regen; 60.500 Melee DPS; 7.41% melee crit; 13.03% dodge; 10 nature resist (+10);[[ TBR: 231 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/2ydp6q ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/3asae8 ][ Updated: Fri Nov 23 18:08:15 2007 EST ]] |
| 03:02.35 | Furl | Damn you |
| 03:02.42 | Shirik | !vs us drenden kimina us velen shalyn |
| 03:02.44 | ThraeBot | Shirik: Kimina vs Shalyn! Kimina has +23 lvls on Shalyn (70 vs 47); A L70 priest and a L47 druid square off!; 20/41/0 vs 0/38/0; Kimina wins by 675 TBRs! ***OWNED!*** |
| 03:02.46 | |Jelly| | I didn't log out in any form. |
| 03:03.01 | Furl | !vs us velen shalyn us eonar lounen |
| 03:03.13 | |Jelly| | !vs us burning legion jelly us drenden kimina |
| 03:03.14 | ThraeBot | |Jelly|: Jelly vs Kimina! Two 70 priests square off!; 23/38/0 vs 20/41/0; Jelly wins by 236 TBRs! |
| 03:03.31 | Furl | !vs us velen shalyn us eonar lounen |
| 03:03.31 | ThraeBot | Sorry Furl, you must wait 176 seconds before making another request. |
| 03:03.32 | |Jelly| | ~hug Shirik |
| 03:03.33 | purl | ACTION hugs Shirik tightly until Shirik turns slightly blue |
| 03:03.51 | |Jelly| | Your CoH got you owned imo. |
| 03:04.10 | Furl | !vs us velen shalyn us eonar lounen |
| 03:04.35 | Furl | 2 more min,,, |
| 03:05.31 | Furl | ~lart ThraeBot |
| 03:05.31 | purl | moos at ThraeBot |
| 03:05.37 | Furl | lolwut? |
| 03:06.09 | Furl | !vs us velen shalyn us eonar lounen |
| 03:06.09 | ThraeBot | Sorry Furl, you must wait 18 seconds before making another request. |
| 03:06.27 | Furl | !vs us velen shalyn us eonar lounen |
| 03:06.30 | ThraeBot | Furl: Shalyn vs Lounen! Shalyn has +17 lvls on Lounen (47 vs 30); A L47 druid and a L30 rogue square off!; 0/38/0 vs 15/6/0; Shalyn wins by 93 TBRs! |
| 03:07.15 | Furl | !vs us eonar furlenssao us burninglegion jelly |
| 03:07.16 | ThraeBot | Sorry Furl, you must wait 206 seconds before making another request. |
| 03:07.20 | Furl | MOOOO |
| 03:07.37 | furle | !vs us eonar furlenssao us burninglegion jelly |
| 03:07.42 | |Jelly| | ...there really isn't a space in the server... |
| 03:07.59 | |Jelly| | s/isn't/is/ |
| 03:08.04 | furle | !vs us eonar furlenssao us burninglegion jelly |
| 03:08.18 | furle | !vs us eonar furlenssao us burning egion jelly |
| 03:08.18 | ThraeBot | Sorry furle, you must wait 144 seconds before making another request. |
| 03:08.20 | |Jelly| | ~fail furle |
| 03:08.21 | purl | furle: Fail. |
| 03:08.28 | furle | Booooooooooooooo |
| 03:08.32 | |Jelly| | !vs us eonar furlenssao us burning legion jelly |
| 03:08.36 | ThraeBot | |Jelly|: Furlenssao vs Jelly! A L70 warlock and a L70 priest square off!; 41/3/17 vs 23/38/0; Furlenssao wins by 200 TBRs! |
| 03:08.47 | furle | Harhar |
| 03:08.49 | |Jelly| | Oh grats...a warlock won. Go figure. |
| 03:08.56 | furle | :O |
| 03:09.05 | |Jelly| | Tell me, did you roll your entire face on the keyboard or just your forehead? |
| 03:09.22 | furle | You woulda pwned my ass; raiding spec |
| 03:09.36 | |Jelly| | !c us burning legion jelly |
| 03:09.36 | furle | And hmm? |
| 03:09.37 | ThraeBot | |Jelly|: Jelly, Level 70 Blood Elf Priest (23/38/0). 6761 HP; 10545 Mana; 372 mana regen; 171 mp5; 624 +spell dmg; 1689 +heal; 5.62% dodge; 18 resilience; +25 all resists (+5 all);[[ TBR: 975 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/yrmc88 ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/2mw2d7 ][ Updated: Thu Nov 22 19:04:12 2007 EST ]] |
| 03:09.45 | furle | 624 damage |
| 03:09.48 | |Jelly| | Yeah...would have totally owned you... /rollseyes |
| 03:09.49 | furle | Mana burn me to death |
| 03:10.01 | furle | !c us eonar furlenssao |
| 03:10.01 | ThraeBot | Sorry furle, you must wait 40 seconds before making another request. |
| 03:10.10 | Shirik | hey, I beat a raid specced mage today |
| 03:10.12 | Shirik | I was estatic |
| 03:10.18 | furle | :O |
| 03:10.23 | furle | !c us eonar furlenssao |
| 03:10.23 | Shirik | I just kept myself alive until he ran out of mana, hit him when he evocated, mana burn |
| 03:10.28 | Shirik | and then kited him with SW:P |
| 03:10.30 | |Jelly| | !vs us burning legion klot us burning legion jelly |
| 03:10.33 | ThraeBot | |Jelly|: Klot vs Jelly! A L70 shaman and a L70 priest square off!; 41/0/20 vs 23/38/0; Jelly wins by 355 TBRs! |
| 03:10.42 | furle | !c us eonar furlenssao |
| 03:10.43 | ThraeBot | furle: Furlenssao, Level 70 Blood Elf Warlock (41/3/17). 9060 HP; 9240 Mana; 126 mana regen; 21 mp5; 45 spell crit; 14 spell hit; 534 +spell dmg/heal; 6.10% dodge; 89 resilience;[[ TBR: 1152 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/2hao7t ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/3ckecs ][ Updated: Fri Nov 23 18:15:10 2007 EST ]] |
| 03:10.52 | furle | Oh shit |
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| 03:10.59 | furle | That was in my lolgear |
| 03:11.03 | furle | I think? |
| 03:11.11 | furle | Nah |
| 03:11.28 | furle | Hrmph |
| 03:11.31 | |Jelly| | I have more damage in my healing gear than you do...as a lock? |
| 03:11.46 | furle | Something's wrong with it |
| 03:12.15 | |Jelly| | That's what your armory reflects. : / |
| 03:12.22 | furle | Wrong trinket and no fel armor |
| 03:12.32 | furle | <-- Crappy gear :O |
| 03:12.44 | Shirik | !c us drenden kimina |
| 03:12.44 | ThraeBot | Shirik: Kimina, Level 70 Blood Elf Priest (20/41/0). 7931 HP; 9600 Mana; 370 mana regen; 193 mp5; 579 +spell dmg; 1600 +heal; 5.90% dodge; 23 resilience;[[ TBR: 739 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/2fx6zd ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/2pkb3p ][ Updated: Fri Nov 23 18:09:19 2007 EST ]] |
| 03:12.50 | Shirik | 579 |
| 03:12.51 | Shirik | whoo |
| 03:13.04 | furle | I need healing gear :( |
| 03:13.06 | Shirik | |Jelly| has more though =( |
| 03:13.06 | furle | :O |
| 03:13.10 | |Jelly| | !co us burning legion jelly us drenden kimina |
| 03:13.11 | ThraeBot | |Jelly|: Jelly vs Kimina! Two 70 priests compare their stat differences; 23/38/0 vs 20/41/0; Kimina ++1170 HP; Jelly ++89 +healing; Kimina ++0.28% dodge; Jelly ++45 +spelldmg; Jelly ++25 All Resists; Jelly ++328 Armour; Jelly ++945 Mana; Jelly ++2 mana regen; Kimina ++5 resilience; Kimina ++22 mp5; Jelly has 4% more stats then Kimina. |
| 03:13.16 | Shirik | =( |
| 03:14.36 | |Jelly| | !c us velen azerot |
| 03:14.39 | ThraeBot | |Jelly|: Azerot, Level 42 Human Warrior (32/0/1). 2305 HP; 4076 Armour; 402 AP; 58.000 Melee DPS; 6.43% melee crit; 6 +spell dmg/heal; 5.71% dodge; 5.40% block;[[ TBR: 455 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/yupfl9 ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/2q25q8 ][ Updated: Fri Nov 23 18:21:14 2007 EST ]] |
| 03:15.14 | Furl | !c us eonar depthcore |
| 03:15.17 | ThraeBot | Furl: Depthcore, Level 70 Blood Elf Paladin (5/0/56). 8997 HP; 5103 Mana; 84 mana regen; 10015 Armour; 1738 AP; 290.200 Melee DPS; 29.64% melee crit; 105 melee hit; 83 +spell dmg/heal; 8.41% dodge; 5.00% block; 23 resilience;[[ TBR: 1273 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/ytt9p8 ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/2p5wu7 ][ Updated: Fri Nov 23 18:21:52 2007 EST ]] |
| 03:17.19 | Furl | !c us eonar leash |
| 03:17.19 | ThraeBot | Sorry Furl, you must wait 131 seconds before making another request. |
| 03:17.23 | Furl | moo |
| 03:17.54 | Lukian | Furl, you can PM the bot too :p |
| 03:17.59 | Lukian | saves some channel spam |
| 03:18.20 | Furl | Pssssh |
| 03:18.36 | Furl | You don't know me well enough |
| 03:18.40 | Furl | I love spam |
| 03:18.48 | Lukian | yeah it's not like much is happening in here :D |
| 03:18.55 | Furl | Spam tases great. |
| 03:18.59 | Furl | :O |
| 03:19.13 | Furl | !c us eonar leash |
| 03:19.13 | ThraeBot | Sorry Furl, you must wait 17 seconds before making another request. |
| 03:19.43 | Furl | !c us eonar leash |
| 03:19.45 | ThraeBot | Furl: Leash, Level 23 Tauren Druid (0/14/0). 713 HP; 845 Mana; 68 mana regen; 27.200 Melee DPS; 4.25% melee crit; 5.86% dodge; 10 nature resist (+10);[[ TBR: 96 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/22ojrr ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/2vy9wq ][ Updated: Fri Nov 23 18:26:20 2007 EST ]] |
| 03:21.39 | Furl | I think i broke it :/ |
| 03:22.18 | Furl | :/ |
| 03:23.00 | Furl | !c us eonar secrot |
| 03:23.00 | ThraeBot | Sorry Furl, you must wait 58 seconds before making another request. |
| 03:24.50 | Furl | !c us eonar secrot |
| 03:24.54 | ThraeBot | Furl: Secrot, Level 24 Undead Priest (0/2/13). 1043 HP; 1340 Mana; 92 mana regen; 25 +spell dmg; 55 +heal; 4.50% dodge; 10 shadow resist (+10);[[ TBR: 103 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/2buaqm ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/2mhfcy ][ Updated: Fri Nov 23 18:31:28 2007 EST ]] |
| 03:25.08 | |Jelly| | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:25.12 | |Jelly| | oops :P |
| 03:25.16 | Furl | kekeke |
| 03:28.37 | Furl | I wonder what I can say in thalassian that says "D I E" |
| 03:28.47 | Furl | *hops on wow* :O |
| 03:31.38 | |Jelly| | !c us velen narono |
| 03:31.41 | ThraeBot | |Jelly|: Narono, Level 42 Dwarf Paladin (31/0/2). 3252 HP; 1751 Mana; 80 mana regen; 2714 Armour; 432 AP; 68.100 Melee DPS; 2.95% melee crit; 11 +spell dmg/heal; 5.31% dodge; 5.16% block; 10 frost resist (+10);[[ TBR: 174 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/277agr ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/2sejkz ][ Updated: Fri Nov 23 18:38:15 2007 EST ]] |
| 03:31.57 | |Jelly| | lol |
| 03:32.01 | |Jelly| | 3 healers in this group |
| 03:32.18 | |Jelly| | No wonder i'm doing 53% of the damage. :P |
| 03:33.40 | Tem | Furl, cut out the spam |
| 03:34.23 | art3mis | blame the bot not the user |
| 03:36.13 | Kelfarr | god going from 240 tailoring to 250 is expensive |
| 03:36.25 | |Jelly| | You haven't seen anything yet. |
| 03:36.48 | batrick | clad should get back luabot is lost to us |
| 03:37.03 | Kelfarr | only things i can make that are orange cost 5 primal mana |
| 03:37.20 | Kelfarr | well 250 up will be expensive but beneficial |
| 03:37.25 | Kelfarr | because i can use the gear |
| 03:38.09 | Furl | I am at 270 |
| 03:38.11 | Furl | And I am poor |
| 03:38.14 | |Jelly| | are you even using runecloth at 250? |
| 03:39.17 | Kelfarr | oops i meant 340 |
| 03:39.18 | Kelfarr | lolz |
| 03:39.37 | Kelfarr | i meant going from 340 to 350 tailoring is expensive |
| 03:41.08 | Furl | lol duh |
| 03:41.09 | Shirik | no |
| 03:41.14 | Shirik | expensive is 360+ |
| 03:41.21 | Shirik | unless you get arcanoweave |
| 03:41.34 | Furl | [I have it] |
| 03:41.48 | Kelfarr | arcanoweave? |
| 03:41.50 | Furl | !i Pattern: Arcanoweave Robe |
| 03:42.26 | Kelfarr | why would i want to make that? |
| 03:43.04 | Furl | Still can't log in to the forums |
| 03:43.14 | Kelfarr | neither can I |
| 03:45.37 | Furl | http://filebeam.com/f4d28c630fb52f6af4d33cadcd4be169.jpg <-- What can Gaussian do for you? |
| 03:45.56 | Furl | <3 Complex matrices |
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| 03:47.42 | Tem | in vim, what style of regex is used in the search? |
| 03:48.01 | Shirik | posix-style |
| 03:48.19 | Shirik | /pattern\sto\smatch/ |
| 03:48.20 | Tem | morover, what do I need to do to turn regex on? |
| 03:48.27 | Shirik | forward slash |
| 03:48.50 | Tem | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:48.55 | Tem | this tells me that regex is disabled |
| 03:48.56 | Shirik | I use vi, I just assumed it was the same :/ |
| 03:48.58 | Tem | or something |
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| 03:56.45 | Furl | Jelly, why are you on my battlegroup...? |
| 03:57.14 | Shirik | is he not allowed to be? |
| 03:57.15 | |Jelly| | You mean on my release server? :-\ |
| 03:57.16 | Kelfarr | why the hell cant i logon to the wow forums |
| 03:57.39 | Kelfarr | it keeps saying invalid account or password :* |
| 03:57.43 | Kelfarr | :( |
| 03:57.45 | Furl | Same |
| 03:58.00 | Furl | Auth server problems imo |
| 03:58.01 | Kelfarr | but i use firefox and I made it save my password |
| 03:58.07 | Kelfarr | i need to be an asshole!! |
| 03:58.19 | Furl | Mmm |
| 03:58.31 | Furl | All your localsettings are belong to me? |
| 03:58.39 | Kelfarr | nio |
| 03:58.44 | Kelfarr | ni hao |
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| 04:00.51 | Furl | omg |
| 04:00.57 | Furl | it's encrypted :X |
| 04:03.11 | Furl | Aww |
| 04:03.22 | Furl | I feared their tank in AV but they shot em down before drek reset :( |
| 04:05.03 | Furl | You know chek & ash at all, tho? |
| 04:05.10 | Furl | jelly? |
| 04:05.18 | |Jelly| | ? |
| 04:05.27 | |Jelly| | I don't pvp...at all.. |
| 04:06.47 | Furl | Wow |
| 04:06.53 | Furl | You suck :O |
| 04:07.05 | |Jelly| | ...says the warlock |
| 04:07.08 | |Jelly| | Grats at bad. |
| 04:10.25 | ScytheBlade1 | Well, sadly, I can no longer say that I have yet to have a NEED to update the actual code to my addons in response to a Blizzard code change, since 1.12. |
| 04:16.29 | AnduinLothar | trackingframe lol |
| 04:16.34 | ScytheBlade1 | That's the one |
| 04:21.51 | Kelfarr | yay 290 mining!! |
| 04:24.35 | art3mis | only 85 more! |
| 04:25.01 | Kelfarr | yeah |
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| 04:30.18 | bleeter | Wobin: 2.5 hours to go? |
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| 04:41.04 | Wobin | tick tick tick |
| 04:43.47 | Kelfarr | 5 more points |
| 04:43.50 | Kelfarr | till 300 mining |
| 04:49.25 | Kelfarr | hmm i can't decide if I want to spec fire now even though I still need to farm for primal fire or stay frost and farm primal fires as frost |
| 04:54.02 | sysrage | frost owns you |
| 04:54.10 | Kelfarr | i am bored off it |
| 04:54.13 | Kelfarr | of* |
| 04:54.21 | sysrage | fire = noob spec |
| 04:54.23 | Kelfarr | and I will have a piece of spellfire hopefully by monday |
| 04:54.26 | Kelfarr | i am raiding tho |
| 04:54.33 | sysrage | so am i |
| 04:54.50 | sysrage | you can do just as much damage as most fire mages if you arne't a noobcake |
| 04:55.21 | Kelfarr | you can but i would rather not |
| 04:55.34 | Kelfarr | fire is still better if given same skill and gear |
| 04:56.03 | dylanm_ | Arcaaaane |
| 04:56.14 | sysrage | frost is so much more fun imo. makes you actually work at it instead of just being a mindless zombie |
| 04:56.14 | Kelfarr | with 2 pieces of tier 5 yes |
| 04:56.35 | Kelfarr | so frostbolt frostbolt frostbolt is work? |
| 04:56.56 | sysrage | if that's all you do you fail at mage |
| 04:57.09 | Kelfarr | in raids |
| 04:57.11 | Kelfarr | thats all you do |
| 04:57.15 | sysrage | no it's not |
| 04:57.17 | Kelfarr | and cast water elemental |
| 04:57.48 | Furl | "LF Haler 3v3 Burning Legion" |
| 04:57.52 | Furl | Healer* |
| 04:57.58 | Furl | Your calling :O |
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| 05:00.38 | Kelfarr | i can log onto the forums!! |
| 05:13.44 | Shirik | ok, trying to install visual studio 2008 over wireless = suck |
| 05:13.50 | Shirik | sooooo slow |
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| 05:44.09 | Cairenn | anyone here use firebug before? |
| 05:48.49 | Shirik | yup |
| 05:48.51 | Shirik | what's up? |
| 05:49.05 | Shirik | firebug + developer's toolbar = love |
| 05:51.31 | Lukian | indeed :D |
| 05:51.56 | Kelfarr | wow |
| 05:52.03 | Kelfarr | stuck at authenticiating |
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| 05:53.43 | Antiarc | Firebug is one of the best things in the world |
| 05:53.52 | Antiarc | Although it bogs my browser down so much :( |
| 05:54.10 | Lukian | <[NewsBot]> WoWBlues: Authentication Maintenance - http://www.wowblues.com/us/authentication-maintenance-3121132785.html |
| 05:54.13 | Lukian | @ Kelfarr |
| 05:54.50 | Kelfarr | that was for yesterday |
| 05:55.07 | Kelfarr | oh nvm |
| 05:55.46 | Kelfarr | 2 nights in a row god blizz |
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| 06:06.02 | batrick | lua> return 1 |
| 06:06.07 | batrick | jeeze... |
| 06:06.12 | batrick | clad!!! |
| 06:08.21 | sag_ich_nicht | uh |
| 06:08.24 | sag_ich_nicht | >>> return 1 |
| 06:08.25 | sag_ich_nicht | :P |
| 06:08.30 | sag_ich_nicht | oh wait |
| 06:08.34 | sag_ich_nicht | cide is offline too |
| 06:08.35 | sag_ich_nicht | damnit |
| 06:08.59 | batrick | ya i had to take down my bot cuz it was vulnerable to the same thing i did to clad |
| 06:09.16 | batrick | i almost got it done except i'm tracking down a seg fault in the lua task module /sigh |
| 06:12.57 | Shirik | I can make it seg fault if you want |
| 06:18.23 | Furl | Copying addons is fun... |
| 06:18.32 | Furl | 210 megs I think? |
| 06:20.37 | Furl | <-- Needs a SSD |
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| 06:22.11 | batrick | go ahead shirik I'd like to see it happen :) |
| 06:24.00 | batrick | --> return 1 |
| 06:24.00 | batbot | batrick: > 1 |
| 06:30.08 | Shirik | --> foo = function(foo) coroutine.wrap(foo)(foo); end foo(foo) |
| 06:30.09 | batbot | Shirik: > [string "0"]:1: [string "0"]:1: [string "0"]:1: [string "0"]:1: [string "0"]:1: [string "0"]:1: [string "0"]:1: [string "0"]:1: [string "0"]:1: [string "0"]:1: [string "0"]:1: [string "0"]:1: [string "0"]:1: [string "0"]:1: [string "0"]:1: ...(tldr) |
| 06:30.11 | Kelfarr | wow i keep getting DCed damnit |
| 06:30.15 | Shirik | huh. |
| 06:30.21 | Shirik | I wonder how you took care of that |
| 06:30.59 | Shirik | not that I would consider that "accurate" |
| 06:31.02 | Shirik | but interesting. |
| 06:32.09 | Shirik | s = ("\0"):rep(10); for x = 1, 25 do s = s .. s; end return s; |
| 06:32.13 | Shirik | --> s = ("\0"):rep(10); for x = 1, 25 do s = s .. s; end return s; |
| 06:32.18 | batbot | Shirik: > maximum execution time/memory exceeded |
| 06:32.27 | Shirik | --> s = ("\0"):rep(100); for x = 1, 25 do s = s .. s; end return s; |
| 06:32.32 | batbot | Shirik: > maximum execution time/memory exceeded |
| 06:32.36 | Shirik | hm, ok :/ |
| 06:40.34 | batrick | Shirik: I took the shortcut and limited the number of coroutines you can create to 20 |
| 06:40.44 | Shirik | ah |
| 06:40.50 | batrick | didn't really want to figure out where to patch that myself |
| 06:41.01 | Shirik | it's pretty simple patch |
| 06:41.05 | Shirik | but it involves some messy stuff |
| 06:41.07 | batrick | ya i bet it is |
| 06:41.14 | batrick | :) |
| 06:41.17 | Shirik | it's just a matter of moving a variable's location |
| 06:41.23 | batrick | ya |
| 06:41.39 | Shirik | ok then what if I did this? |
| 06:41.52 | Shirik | first, a test |
| 06:42.27 | Shirik | --> count = 0; function foo() count++; foo() end foo() |
| 06:42.27 | batbot | Shirik: > [string "0"]:1: '=' expected near '+' |
| 06:42.33 | Shirik | --> count = 0; function foo() count = count + 1; foo() end foo() |
| 06:42.33 | batbot | Shirik: > [string "0"]:1: stack overflow |
| 06:42.37 | Shirik | --> return count; |
| 06:42.38 | batrick | O.o |
| 06:42.38 | batbot | Shirik: > 16380 |
| 06:42.45 | Shirik | ok, now that I have this |
| 06:43.01 | Shirik | we'll try something slightly different |
| 06:43.30 | batrick | I think I know what you have in mind :O |
| 06:43.38 | batrick | don't think it will work |
| 06:44.18 | Shirik | --> n = 0; function foo(foo) n = n+1; if (n % 10000 == 0) then coroutine.wrap(foo)(foo) else foo(foo) end end foo(foo) |
| 06:44.19 | batbot | Shirik: > [string "0"]:1: [string "0"]:1: [string "0"]:1: [string "0"]:1: [string "0"]:1: [string "0"]:1: [string "0"]:1: [string "0"]:1: [string "0"]:1: [string "0"]:1: [string "0"]:1: [string "0"]:1: [string "0"]:1: [string "0"]:1: [string "0"]:1: ...(tldr) |
| 06:44.22 | Shirik | grr |
| 06:44.28 | Shirik | =( |
| 06:44.30 | Shirik | I want cookie |
| 06:44.45 | Cairenn | purl, give Shirik a cookie |
| 06:44.46 | purl | ACTION gives Shirik a home-baked fortune cookie to cheer him up. |
| 06:44.47 | Kelfarr | i can't pvp at all on my mage it sucks |
| 06:45.11 | Kelfarr | a rogue in blues just 2 shotted me |
| 06:45.28 | batrick | nerf hunters imo |
| 06:47.10 | batrick | batbot: are you amazing, and invincible to Shirik's advances? |
| 06:47.10 | batbot | batrick, Are you kidding? |
| 06:47.14 | batrick | :( |
| 06:47.25 | Shirik | ?? |
| 06:47.27 | Shirik | what was that? |
| 06:47.28 | batrick | bot never agrees with me |
| 06:47.31 | batrick | !8ball |
| 06:47.31 | batbot | batrick, As I see it, yes. |
| 06:47.41 | Shirik | batbot: Is Shirik a god among men? |
| 06:47.42 | batbot | Shirik, Keep dreaming. |
| 06:47.44 | Shirik | =( |
| 06:47.55 | batrick | he's not very nice |
| 06:48.02 | Shirik | apparently not |
| 06:48.29 | Shirik | --> count = 0; function foo() local a,b,c,d = {}, {}, {}, {} count = count + 1; foo() end foo() |
| 06:48.29 | batbot | Shirik: > [string "0"]:1: stack overflow |
| 06:48.32 | Shirik | --> return count |
| 06:48.32 | batbot | Shirik: > 19996 |
| 06:48.38 | Shirik | that's... odd |
| 06:49.12 | Shirik | I expected to have less function calls! |
| 06:49.48 | batrick | --> x=("X"):rep(300) return x:find(".-.-.-%$") |
| 06:49.53 | batbot | batrick: > maximum execution time/memory exceeded |
| 06:50.08 | Shirik | --> s = ("\0"):rep(100); for x = 1,25 do s = s:rep(100) end |
| 06:50.13 | batbot | Shirik: > maximum execution time/memory exceeded |
| 06:50.15 | Shirik | cry |
| 06:50.23 | batrick | batbot is purdy |
| 06:50.43 | batrick | it's nice not having to put lame restrictions on those functions anymore |
| 06:50.56 | Shirik | did you do it multithreaded or something? |
| 06:51.00 | batrick | yes |
| 06:51.04 | Shirik | smart man :) |
| 06:51.07 | Shirik | I was thinking that earlier today |
| 06:51.13 | Shirik | how much easier things would be just to do it multithreaded |
| 06:51.26 | batrick | after I found that cute loophole in find() I realized i couldn't avoid it anymore |
| 06:51.54 | Shirik | question is could I force some kind of race conditions |
| 06:51.55 | Shirik | hmm |
| 06:52.02 | batrick | luabot has been working on that find for a c ouple hours now |
| 06:52.22 | Shirik | did you define lua_lock? |
| 06:52.28 | Shirik | instead of me going to mess with all this |
| 06:52.35 | batrick | Shirik: I don't let it execute more than one script at once, so no :P |
| 06:52.53 | Shirik | right, but I assume that you go ahead and query collectgarbage("count") right? |
| 06:52.53 | batrick | --> while true do end |
| 06:52.56 | batrick | --> 1 |
| 06:52.58 | batbot | batrick: > maximum execution time/memory exceeded |
| 06:52.58 | batbot | batrick: > 1 |
| 06:53.11 | batrick | that actually would cause a segfault in luatask |
| 06:53.23 | Shirik | ? |
| 06:53.24 | batrick | i'm not sure why; i ended up having to put a sleep after i killed the old thread |
| 06:53.34 | batrick | it needs time for something |
| 06:53.47 | Shirik | what would cause a segfault? |
| 06:53.52 | batrick | i have no idea |
| 06:53.59 | batrick | but i narrowed it down to a task.receive() |
| 06:53.59 | Shirik | "that would actually cause" |
| 06:54.01 | Shirik | what is "that" |
| 06:54.14 | batrick | that, well |
| 06:54.22 | batrick | i killed the old task because it's running too long |
| 06:54.38 | batrick | and really anymore information other than that could just be irrelevant |
| 06:54.55 | batrick | but calling task.receive() when the queue is empty causes a seg fault |
| 06:55.17 | batrick | you want to see my sandbox? I imagine you've been wanting to |
| 06:55.48 | Shirik | kinda :) |
| 06:55.57 | Shirik | but what I really want to know is if I can force a race condition |
| 06:56.06 | Shirik | I assume your second thread calls collectgarbage"count" right? |
| 06:56.09 | Shirik | to check memory? |
| 06:56.12 | batrick | I'd say no, because like I said you can't execute more than one script at once |
| 06:56.19 | batrick | yes |
| 06:56.22 | Shirik | now |
| 06:56.37 | Shirik | let us assume that you do collectgarbage"count" in the middle of me pushing things on the stack in preparation for some call |
| 06:56.54 | batrick | shirik... |
| 06:57.19 | Shirik | they're in the same lua environment, so they share the same lua stack |
| 06:57.24 | Shirik | s/environment/state/ |
| 06:57.31 | batrick | not true |
| 06:57.42 | batrick | each new task actually gets its own state |
| 06:57.54 | Shirik | what is "task" |
| 06:57.58 | Shirik | some utility you're using? |
| 06:57.59 | Furl | <-- finally has decent resil on the ptr. |
| 06:58.10 | batrick | well it's a thread they just wanted to avoid that work because lua already officially uses it |
| 06:58.16 | batrick | s/work/word |
| 06:58.19 | Shirik | ah |
| 06:58.31 | batrick | !g luatask |
| 06:58.32 | batbot | batrick: LuaForge: LuaTask addon library: Project Info <http://luaforge.net/projects/luatask/> |
| 07:00.22 | batrick | Shirik: pm |
| 07:00.36 | Wobin | http://roblogger.com/1067/alien-abduction-video |
| 07:05.33 | batrick | luabot's processor is gonna melt |
| 07:05.42 | batrick | QQ |
| 07:06.17 | Shirik | ? |
| 07:10.09 | Shirik | batbot: Do you hate me? |
| 07:10.10 | batbot | Shirik, Keep dreaming. |
| 07:10.13 | Shirik | good. |
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| 07:25.25 | *** topic/#wowi-lounge by Cairenn -> #wowi-lounge: Paste Code Here: http://wowi.pastey.net | 2.3.x ToC: 20300 | RTFPN please | WoWI Mod Uploader! http://www.wowinterface.com/forums/showthread.php?t=12821| Patch Notes: http://www.wowinterface.com/forums/showthread.php?t=13386 | "How hard could it possibly be to fix." - buu |
| 07:25.44 | Cairenn | night guys |
| 07:25.44 | batrick | spam o no my eyes |
| 07:25.50 | batrick | night cairenn :D |
| 07:26.26 | batrick | Shirik: wat r u doin |
| 07:36.05 | Lukian | Is the US auth server up? |
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| 07:38.09 | art3mis | http://www.wowinsider.com/2007/11/22/robbing-the-guild-bank/ |
| 07:38.12 | art3mis | bahahahahahaha |
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| 07:40.01 | Kelfar | ugh |
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| 07:58.37 | Rayne | WoW has been tanking up way too much memory since the patch :/ |
| 08:02.52 | Shirik|Ecole | how are you making that assesment, Rayne? |
| 08:03.43 | Wobin | casting of the bones |
| 08:03.45 | Wobin | reading of the entrails |
| 08:04.06 | Kelfar | anyone wanna see a tauren alliance |
| 08:04.20 | Wobin | see a tauren alliance? |
| 08:04.29 | Kelfar | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=3120993014&sid=1 |
| 08:04.29 | Wobin | is that a euphanism? |
| 08:04.31 | Kelfar | look at the OP |
| 08:05.08 | Kelfar | is euphanism an euphemism |
| 08:06.00 | Wobin | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:06.02 | Wobin | hehe |
| 08:06.10 | Kelfar | lol |
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| 08:12.55 | batrick | night~ |
| 08:13.17 | Kelfar | no u |
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| 08:20.24 | Shirik|Ecole | --> return string.byte('A'), string.byte('a'); |
| 08:20.24 | batbot | Shirik|Ecole: > 65, 97 |
| 08:22.01 | Shirik|Ecole | --> return string.char(string.byte('Z')+(string.byte('a')-string.byte('A'))) |
| 08:22.02 | batbot | Shirik|Ecole: > z |
| 08:22.26 | nevcairiel | thats an ugly way to do lower case |
| 08:22.31 | Shirik|Ecole | how would you do it? |
| 08:22.42 | Shirik|Ecole | (this isn't lua, btw) |
| 08:23.00 | Shirik|Ecole | I currently have (C++): return (c>='A' && c<='Z')?c+('a'-'A'):c; |
| 08:24.38 | nevcairiel | just substract the value directly, not through that a-A hack |
| 08:24.49 | nevcairiel | imho |
| 08:25.29 | Arrowmaster | --> return _VERSION |
| 08:25.29 | batbot | Arrowmaster: > Lua 5.1 |
| 08:25.40 | Shirik|Ecole | no real reasoning behind that |
| 08:25.45 | Shirik|Ecole | the compiler will optimize it anyway |
| 08:25.56 | nevcairiel | or use strlwr() |
| 08:25.58 | Shirik|Ecole | it'll calculate 'a'-'A' upfront |
| 08:26.15 | Shirik|Ecole | that I can't do, because I can't guarantee the type of character :P |
| 08:26.23 | Shirik|Ecole | welcome to microsoft's stupid compilers |
| 08:26.27 | Shirik|Ecole | where strings aren't always char* |
| 08:26.46 | nevcairiel | what else? widechar? |
| 08:26.55 | Shirik|Ecole | correct |
| 08:27.09 | Iriel | A good compiler will automatically do the 'a' - 'A' on the fly |
| 08:27.12 | Shirik|Ecole | exactly |
| 08:27.18 | Shirik|Ecole | which is why I'm saying there's no real point to not writing that out |
| 08:27.23 | Shirik|Ecole | it makes it more readable anyway |
| 08:28.48 | Iriel | I thought ctype.h had functions for that stuff? |
| 08:29.04 | Shirik|Ecole | probably |
| 08:29.11 | Shirik|Ecole | I didn't bother to look since it was so simple |
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| 08:47.14 | bleeter | Wobin: lolz http://www.abc.net.au/elections/federal/2007/guide/benn.htm |
| 08:47.34 | bleeter | .au PM's losing his seat in the election ;) |
| 08:48.43 | Wobin | woooooooooooooooooooo |
| 08:48.54 | Wobin | well we knew that would happen anyway |
| 08:49.03 | bleeter | yeah |
| 08:49.14 | bleeter | it's kinda like yer parents lettin' ya know what yer getting for christmas |
| 08:50.15 | bleeter | no suprise, but still loverly all the same |
| 08:53.21 | Fisker- | lucky you :I |
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| 09:28.30 | Tem | lulz |
| 09:28.43 | Tem | aussies are weird |
| 09:30.44 | Kelfar | agree |
| 09:50.04 | Wobin | bleeter: it's over? |
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| 09:52.15 | bleeter | Wobin: ABC's called it to Labor |
| 09:52.59 | bleeter | Wobin: deputy opposition leader's tentatively said they've won... the rep from the govt on the ABC broadcast panel is calling it difficult |
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| 09:54.21 | Wobin | 3 seats for the Greens |
| 09:54.28 | Wobin | and one for family first |
| 09:54.59 | Fisker- | stupid name :P |
| 09:56.38 | Fisker- | politics these days are stupid anyways :( |
| 09:56.47 | Fisker- | It's all about slander anyways |
| 09:57.12 | Fisker- | but i guess the worst part is the people who actually buy into it |
| 09:58.03 | Fisker- | the winning prime minister her flat out lied on tv to win an argument |
| 09:58.07 | Fisker- | here* |
| 09:58.48 | Fisker- | but if someone in the opposition lied or made a mistake you could rest assured that the newspaper the day after would be filled with ads saying that they were liars |
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| 10:05.07 | Kelfar | this is the best wow video http://youtube.com/watch?v=DqCkDcx6KIs |
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| 10:29.46 | art3mis | ahahah |
| 10:30.16 | art3mis | they raid jkarazhan 5 nights a week with a ret paladin because he doesnt understand his class, ad he'll stay that spec because he's a jerk |
| 10:32.37 | Codayus | ? |
| 10:33.20 | art3mis | quote from the above video |
| 10:33.45 | Codayus | Ah |
| 10:34.01 | art3mis | the grind helloween episode is my fav wow video so far |
| 10:34.17 | art3mis | mr.teeth, mr.teeth, mr.teeth |
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| 11:12.39 | bleeter | Wobin: pwned |
| 11:12.42 | bleeter | deeply |
| 11:12.47 | bleeter | Wobin: jwh's conceded |
| 11:13.18 | Wobin | hehe |
| 11:13.23 | Wobin | he can't do much else |
| 11:13.58 | Lukian | there's still 32% to count :p |
| 11:13.59 | Lukian | hehe |
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| 12:58.21 | Industrial | hmm |
| 12:58.35 | Industrial | I have a button frame with a fontstring on it |
| 12:58.50 | Industrial | I want to cast a spell when I click that frame. one set unchangable macro. How do I do it? |
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| 12:59.45 | Industrial | making an aspect switcher, and if it goes well also one for tracking :> |
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| 13:07.59 | Rayne | Hmmm |
| 13:09.10 | Rayne | Is there a way I can go into Elks Buff Bars and alter the text on the buffs, IE like Instead of Prayer of Fortitude VII it would come up Fortitude VII |
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| 13:13.57 | wereHamster | Rayne, regexp remove ".* of " ? |
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| 13:17.10 | Rayne | not sure... |
| 13:17.24 | Rayne | its one of the things ive been looking at doing with BBC v7 |
| 13:18.05 | Rayne | Aside from just getting the major raid buffs and single handedly renaming them all, i thought there might be a spot for it in the LUA by rare chance |
| 13:18.05 | krka | Rayne: Lua is not an acronym. |
| 13:18.35 | Rayne | one of the many, many things im planning on playing with... |
| 13:18.43 | Industrial | Can I make a spellcast on an OnClick of a button frame? It's a set spell. |
| 13:19.18 | nevcairiel | you need to make a secure button and set it to type=spell, and spell="spellname" |
| 13:20.07 | Industrial | what kind of virtual button frame? I dont want it to look like an actionbutton (I dont want it to look like nything) |
| 13:20.19 | nevcairiel | use SecureActionButton then |
| 13:20.23 | nevcairiel | no style, only functions |
| 13:20.24 | Industrial | kay |
| 13:23.13 | Industrial | ownage |
| 13:23.16 | Industrial | thx nevcairiel |
| 13:32.45 | Industrial | nevcairiel: http://pastey.net/77974 |
| 13:33.08 | Industrial | quick and dirty hunter aspect changer with only text - active aspect is colored red :D |
| 13:34.00 | Industrial | http://bildr.no/image/124733.jpeg |
| 13:36.08 | Rayne | -_- |
| 13:36.31 | Industrial | replaceing zhuntermod with my own \o/ |
| 13:36.44 | Industrial | s/replace/replac/ |
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| 13:57.00 | Rayne | I need to find a good font too... |
| 14:01.21 | Polarina | Why do people differentate between Ace and non-Ace addons? |
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| 14:04.00 | Lunessa | ... station. |
| 14:07.42 | Industrial | Polarina: because they dont know. It's hard to stop a snowballing effect of wrong info :* |
| 14:07.51 | Industrial | :(* |
| 14:08.40 | Polarina | Industrial: Just curious. Because I saw my addon included within a UI pack listed as a Ace addon. :P |
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| 14:09.39 | zenzelezz | I've had little success explaining to my guildies that Ace (or other frameworks), while they can be very helpful, aren't guaranteed to make your addons super efficient |
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| 14:10.07 | Polarina | zenzelezz: Did you end up on their ignore list? |
| 14:10.11 | Industrial | I dont bother anymore |
| 14:10.24 | Industrial | I just ignore THEM :P |
| 14:10.26 | zenzelezz | why would they ignore me? |
| 14:12.41 | zenzelezz | all right, thank you for the cookie |
| 14:16.38 | Polarina | Where's Tuller? |
| 14:21.11 | Polarina | http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/full9170.jpg :) |
| 14:22.13 | Polarina | Hmm... Maybe I should make a "What UI is that" post at the Interface Customisation section at Blizzard's Forums with that screenshot. :P |
| 14:27.55 | Rayne | I wanted something sweet for breakfast, so I put marshmallows in my cheerios. |
| 14:28.22 | Polarina | http://forums.wow-europe.com/thread.html?topicId=771138877&postId=17483379413&sid=1#535 :P |
| 14:35.16 | Kaso | i dont get the joke :< |
| 14:35.59 | Polarina | Kaso: I'm trying to figure out how widespread my addon is. (: |
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| 14:36.30 | Kaso | ah |
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| 14:39.02 | Elkano | shall I post a "your own"? ;) |
| 14:39.21 | Elkano | oh, wait, this is EU forums... |
| 14:39.33 | Elkano | ...I actually COULD do it... |
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| 14:40.09 | Polarina | Elkano: Please don't. xD |
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| 14:41.40 | Elkano | I wont but it was only half the fun when I noticed I could... |
| 14:44.02 | Industrial | hmmm how would I know what tracking is on - its not a buff.. |
| 14:45.38 | zenzelezz | have a look at how the default UI's tracking menu does it? |
| 14:46.39 | Elkano | or at EBB's code |
| 14:47.27 | Industrial | im beggint a broken zip? :S http://ftp.blizzard.com/pub/WoW/other/InterfaceAddOnKit_Win.zip |
| 14:47.31 | Industrial | getting* |
| 14:48.09 | Fisker- | We have reached the maximum amount of FTP site users. Please try again later when the FTP Site is less busy or you can also try one of our mirror FTP Sites such as: |
| 14:48.41 | Polarina | Oh no! Denial of Service attack! |
| 14:49.03 | Rayne | @_@ |
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| 14:49.39 | Rayne | wow |
| 14:49.44 | Rayne | I turned off Cleafont |
| 14:49.51 | Rayne | and everything in my UI went hypersmall |
| 14:50.09 | Rayne | I couldnt even read the menu |
| 14:50.10 | Industrial | MINIMAP_UPDATE_TRACKING apparently :P |
| 14:50.58 | zenzelezz | I'm guessing you already checked the wiki and decided against identifying them by texture? |
| 14:52.17 | Rayne | Im going to ask Elkano the obvious stupid question of if EBB is his mod, because my cold meds are owning me and im not sure if he saw my question earlier... |
| 14:52.48 | Rayne | If your doctor perscribes you the double dose of a cold medicine...dont listen to him, hes a quack... |
| 14:54.09 | Polarina | I got this reply "Polarina: You mean an AddOn that shows what it sells for? Probably ColaLight. =)" |
| 14:54.11 | Polarina | o.O |
| 14:55.26 | Industrial | hehe |
| 14:55.59 | Industrial | zenzelezz: I dont know yet :P still figuring it out |
| 14:56.03 | Polarina | ColaLight, doesn't, if I remember, show prices like that.. |
| 14:56.21 | zenzelezz | Industrial: was more of a "you DID check the wiki, right?" remark |
| 14:56.43 | Industrial | zenzelezz: yes |
| 14:57.10 | Elkano | Rayne, which question? |
| 14:58.21 | Rayne | Is there a way I can edit how the names of buffs show up on the bars for shortening larger names to a much cleaner state, IE Instead of Prayer of Fortitude VI have it as Fortitude IV |
| 14:58.27 | Rayne | VI* |
| 14:59.41 | Industrial | or fort4 |
| 14:59.42 | Industrial | :P |
| 15:00.24 | Rayne | This shaman in IF has been chain healing me for about 4-5 minutes, hes about halfway through his mana... |
| 15:00.50 | Elkano | well, get PoF on you and it will show up in the options where you can rename it |
| 15:01.23 | Rayne | Yeah I kinda assumed it would end up being renaming it all individually :( |
| 15:01.31 | Rayne | oh well, my UI, what I want :P |
| 15:01.56 | Polarina | I want Blizzard to make group duels! So there are two different groups (or raids) that can declare a duel on eachother (Just like right-clicking on someone's portrait and selecting Duel). :P |
| 15:02.23 | Elkano | you shouldn't need to rename every rank, no |
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| 15:05.16 | Rayne | Also...I have a request |
| 15:05.27 | Rayne | please make a Waterfall style menu for EBB @_@ |
| 15:07.03 | Dotted | Niagara? |
| 15:08.24 | nevcairiel | how does pairs() behave if i nil stuff from the same table in the loop? |
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| 15:08.51 | Rayne | hmm |
| 15:09.10 | |Jelly|zZz | hmm indeed |
| 15:09.19 | Rayne | mornin Jelly |
| 15:09.37 | |Jelly|Laptop | Hey |
| 15:09.55 | nevcairiel | lua reference says i can delete fields without an issue .. mmhmm |
| 15:16.46 | Rayne | hatehatehaaaaaaaaate |
| 15:18.22 | Polarina | nevcairiel: It behaves correctly. It continues its iteration but doesn't return fields with nil if you have set them to nil before pairs() reaches it. |
| 15:25.11 | Rayne | http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v442/SinOfDreams/WoWScrnShot_112407_101928.jpg pretty much the same as v6 so far...im still looking for a good font for it, and looking at a pitbull layout change. |
| 15:28.12 | Elkano | Rayne, maybe when I switch over to Ace3... |
| 15:58.06 | Polarina | Hmm.. Disabling Specular Lighting provided a huge FPS improvements.. |
| 15:59.50 | Polarina | But the effects provided with it were so cool.. |
| 16:03.01 | MentalPower|AFK | nevcairiel: you can delete stuff just fine, but if you add the function's behavior is undefined, ie its guarantee of visiting every key may no longer be true |
| 16:04.19 | Industrial | zenzelezz: http://bildr.no/image/124788.jpeg |
| 16:04.22 | Industrial | zenzelezz: ^^ |
| 16:07.09 | amro | hey Industrial =) |
| 16:07.16 | Industrial | hai |
| 16:07.29 | Industrial | !c eu grim batol seryan |
| 16:07.32 | ThraeBot | Industrial: Seryan, Level 62 Troll Hunter (41/12/0). 4598 HP; 3333 Mana; 78 mana regen; 969 AP; 142.200 Melee DPS; 5.81% melee crit; 26 melee hit; 1031 RAP; 208.00 Ranged DPS; 15.73% ranged crit; 26 ranged hit; 7.40% dodge;[[ TBR: 1140 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/yrw6xs ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/2n8t5r ][ Updated: Sat Nov 24 07:14:10 2007 EST ]] |
| 16:07.36 | Industrial | amro: ^ :p |
| 16:07.40 | amro | nice! |
| 16:07.52 | amro | how do you like BC? |
| 16:07.57 | Industrial | very much |
| 16:08.07 | amro | I stopped 2 bars from 70 |
| 16:08.16 | Industrial | im in zangarmarsh now |
| 16:08.18 | Industrial | its fun :D |
| 16:08.29 | amro | my fps drops in zang |
| 16:08.44 | Polarina | amro: Try to disable Specular Lighting. :) |
| 16:10.52 | amro | Industrial: enjoying hunter? |
| 16:13.23 | Industrial | yeh |
| 16:14.53 | amro | I think they got a super buff in BC. I tore through everything on my way levelling up including players |
| 16:15.09 | amro | and back in the day my hunter was worthless at 60 |
| 16:18.35 | Polarina | Where can I get a list of addons updateable via WAU? |
| 16:19.51 | [dRaCo] | files.wowace.com |
| 16:21.39 | Polarina | Thanks. |
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| 17:22.57 | Polarina | Once again, where's Tuller? |
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| 17:47.15 | kergoth | is there a macro condition for whether or not you're pvp flagged on a pve realm? |
| 17:47.50 | Polarina | WTF? Why can't I find Omen on WoWI? |
| 17:50.55 | zenzelezz | because no-one's added it I would guess? |
| 17:52.06 | Antiarc | I don't publish to WoWI because I'm lazy |
| 17:52.15 | Antiarc | I only publish to Curse by personal request of Kaelten :P |
| 17:53.17 | zenzelezz | it's on the ace updater, it's enough... to be honest I wouldn't want to get it off a regular addon site seeing how often it gets updated |
| 17:56.35 | Polarina | But there doesn't exists a WAU for Linux, does it? |
| 17:57.02 | Kalroth | ~seen Cide |
| 17:57.28 | purl | cide <n=Cide@hus110a.bobbnet.com> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowi-lounge, 15h 44m 48s ago, saying: 'CT_ShieldMod did that one upon a time!'. |
| 17:57.28 | Kalroth | hrmf |
| 17:57.29 | Kalroth | !seen Cide |
| 17:57.29 | Kalroth | :( |
| 17:57.29 | Polarina | ~seen Polarina |
| 17:57.30 | purl | polarina is currently on #wowi-lounge (4h 6m 20s) #wowace (4h 6m 20s) #wowwiki (4h 6m 20s). Has said a total of 45 messages. Is idling for 1s, last said: '~seen Polarina'. |
| 17:57.30 | Polarina | purl: :) |
| 17:57.30 | purl | (: |
| 17:57.30 | Polarina | purl isn't here. |
| 17:57.32 | Kalroth | purl: I don't like you either! |
| 17:57.32 | purl | You don't like you either!? |
| 17:57.32 | Kalroth | oh |
| 17:57.37 | Kalroth | :( |
| 17:57.44 | Kalroth | ~wedgie purl |
| 17:57.45 | purl | ACTION hangs purl from the flag pole by his underwear |
| 17:58.29 | Kalroth | I got a fix for one of his addons, but I guess it can wait :) |
| 17:58.34 | Antiarc | Polarina: There's always a SVN client, and WAU2 is Java, so you should be able to run it on Linux |
| 17:59.25 | Polarina | Antiarc: Me no have coffe bottle. |
| 18:00.27 | Antiarc | svn co http://svn.wowace.com/wowace/trunk/Omen |
| 18:00.31 | Antiarc | Then svn up Omen |
| 18:00.32 | Antiarc | All done! |
| 18:00.43 | Polarina | :D |
| 18:00.58 | mikma | i thought it was svn del https://svn.wowace.com/wowace/trunk/Omen :D |
| 18:01.08 | Antiarc | Hehe, feel free to try! |
| 18:01.13 | Antiarc | svn. is read-only :P |
| 18:01.26 | mikma | oh right, dev. |
| 18:01.34 | mikma | it wasn't gcode ;9 |
| 18:03.11 | Polarina | Why doesn't blizzard make it possible for Specular Lighting to be disabled for terrain and enabled for water? |
| 18:03.38 | Antiarc | Likely because it uses the same shader |
| 18:03.48 | Antiarc | Or they don't want to confuse people |
| 18:04.09 | Polarina | Antiarc: They should at least make it possible for Addons to toggle that. |
| 18:04.26 | Antiarc | You should be able to by setting the cvar. |
| 18:04.39 | Polarina | Antiarc: What are the CVars name? |
| 18:04.45 | Antiarc | Check config.wtf |
| 18:05.37 | Polarina | It isn't listed in Config.wtf. :| |
| 18:06.07 | Antiarc | SET pixelShaders "1" |
| 18:06.13 | Antiarc | SET ffxGlow "0" |
| 18:06.19 | Antiarc | Those are in my config.wtf |
| 18:06.24 | Antiarc | I'll bet its one of them |
| 18:06.24 | Polarina | How is that different from SET M2UsePixelShaders "1" ? |
| 18:06.38 | Antiarc | That's the character model shading |
| 18:06.38 | Polarina | ffxGlow is full-screen glow effect. |
| 18:06.41 | Antiarc | Smooth lighting, etc |
| 18:07.05 | Polarina | I never saw any difference with smooth lighting on or off. |
| 18:07.24 | Polarina | And they removed that option with 2.3... |
| 18:08.41 | Polarina | Disabling pixelShaders, does that improve performance? |
| 18:12.20 | kergoth | any idea what would cause: |
| 18:12.22 | kergoth | SatrinaBuffFrame\SatrinaBuffFrame.lua line 1041: |
| 18:12.24 | kergoth | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:12.26 | kergoth | ? |
| 18:12.32 | kergoth | doesnt friz quadrata come with the game? |
| 18:15.58 | JoshBorke | kergoth is n00bsauce |
| 18:16.17 | kergoth | :P |
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| 18:46.56 | Kaso | The addon API functions like DisableAddOn, do they dis/en able on a per-charater basis or a per server basis? |
| 18:47.00 | Polarina | If I do a SendAddonMessage() as a whisper to someone. Does he still receieve it, even if he has me on his ignore list? |
| 18:47.15 | AnduinLothar | yes, no |
| 18:47.17 | Polarina | Kaso: I think it's on per-session basis.. |
| 18:47.22 | AnduinLothar | er |
| 18:47.29 | AnduinLothar | yeah per char |
| 18:47.38 | Kaso | The wiki says its "Disable an AddOn for subsequent sessions." |
| 18:47.51 | AnduinLothar | it's per char |
| 18:47.56 | Kaso | ok, thanks AL, thats what i hoped |
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| 18:51.21 | Industrial | ding 63 |
| 18:51.26 | Kaso | Im trying to do some addon writing without access to a wow account atm so i cant test little things like that >.< |
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| 18:54.38 | batrick | lua> return 1 |
| 18:54.38 | lua_bot | batrick: 1 |
| 18:54.42 | batrick | welcome back |
| 18:55.09 | batrick | lua>while true do end |
| 18:55.12 | batrick | lua> reutnr 1 |
| 18:55.14 | lua_bot | batrick: sandbox.lua:154: maximum execution time (5s) exceeded |
| 18:55.14 | lua_bot | batrick: sandbox.lua:286: Compilation failed: [string "reutnr 1"]:1: '=' expected near '1' |
| 18:55.28 | batrick | bah |
| 18:56.51 | Kaso | lua> print ( 1==1 ) |
| 18:56.51 | lua_bot | Kaso: true |
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| 18:59.34 | batrick | i wonder ifclad fixed him yet, i'd feel bad if icrashed him again |
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| 19:01.49 | Kaso | Im still confused why lua doesnt have ++, +=, etc |
| 19:05.23 | Polarina | Kaso: For simplicity. |
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| 19:07.14 | Kaso | I'd prefer to have simpler code than slightly simipler to learn language myself |
| 19:07.24 | batrick_ | -->x=("X"):rep(30) return x:find(".-%$") |
| 19:07.25 | Kaso | i=i+1 just feels so wrong *shudder* |
| 19:07.25 | batbot | batrick_: > nil |
| 19:07.49 | batrick_ | -->x=("X"):rep(50) return x:find(".-%$") |
| 19:07.49 | batbot | batrick_: > nil |
| 19:07.50 | Kaso | what was the aim of that pattern batrick ? |
| 19:08.06 | foxlit | It feels so wrong because you should be using a for loop! |
| 19:08.12 | batrick_ | i just want to make it search for a little more than 5 seconds so i can see if cladbot is fixed |
| 19:08.54 | foxlit | Why do you think that'd take more than 5 seconds? |
| 19:10.15 | Kaso | try making it 100,000 reps of X |
| 19:10.16 | batrick_ | because that pattern does mean things |
| 19:10.28 | batrick_ | -->x=("X"):rep(10000) return x:find(".-%$") |
| 19:10.31 | batbot | batrick_: > nil |
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| 19:10.47 | batrick_ | I don't want to freeze luabot for hours so i need a close approximation :) |
| 19:11.42 | Kaso | Dear god no |
| 19:12.01 | Kaso | All this c programming ive been doing recently has turned me into.... a... colon user! |
| 19:12.11 | foxlit | semicolons <3 |
| 19:12.13 | batrick_ | lua> x=("X"):rep(300) for i=1,3 do x=x..x end return find(".-%$") |
| 19:12.14 | lua_bot | batrick_: [string "x=("X"):rep(300) for i=1,3 do x=x..x end re..."]:1: attempt to call global 'find' (a nil value) |
| 19:12.22 | batrick_ | lua> x=("X"):rep(300) for i=1,3 do x=x..x end return x:find(".-%$") |
| 19:12.22 | lua_bot | batrick_: nil |
| 19:12.26 | batrick_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:12.39 | Kaso | i always used to dispise them |
| 19:12.49 | batrick_ | lua> x=("X"):rep(300) for i=1,5 do x=x..x end return x:find(".-%$") |
| 19:12.51 | lua_bot | batrick_: nil |
| 19:12.53 | Kaso | and i still do! but i use em without thinking now |
| 19:13.04 | batrick_ | lua> x=("X"):rep(300) for i=1,7 do x=x..x end return x:find(".-%$") |
| 19:13.13 | batrick_ | nope not fixed |
| 19:13.19 | Kaso | useless little buggers making the coder's life a huge pain just to make the compiler writer's job a little easier >.< |
| 19:13.38 | lua_bot | batrick_: sandbox.lua:154: maximum execution time (5s) exceeded |
| 19:13.38 | Polarina | batrick: Try this code: local s = "a,"; for i=1,18 do s = s..s end print(loadstring("local a;"..s.."a=nil", "")) |
| 19:13.38 | wereHamster | batrick_, don't you have a lua interpreter on your local computer? |
| 19:13.39 | Kaso | why not just rep(300*7) |
| 19:13.57 | foxlit | It's trivial to end lines with; just a habit :) |
| 19:14.01 | batrick_ | because he doesn't let rep make a string longer than 300 chars |
| 19:14.29 | Kaso | ah |
| 19:14.50 | batrick_ | lua> return ("X"):rep(1e5) |
| 19:14.51 | lua_bot | batrick_: XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX... (result truncated) |
| 19:14.55 | batrick_ | lua> return #("X"):rep(1e5) |
| 19:14.56 | lua_bot | batrick_: 300 |
| 19:15.47 | batrick_ | besides, that concatenation grows quadratically not linearly by a scale of 7 :P |
| 19:16.09 | Kaso | oh, true that is |
| 19:17.30 | batrick_ | find(".-.-.-%$") makes luabot cry |
| 19:18.07 | Polarina | batrick_: Try this one: local s = "a,"; for i=1,18 do s = s..s end print(loadstring("local a;"..s.."a=nil", "")) |
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| 19:19.15 | batrick_ | he's patched that and so have i |
| 19:19.53 | Polarina | Damn... |
| 19:20.02 | batrick_ | lua> a=function(a) coroutine.wrap(a)(a) end return a(a) |
| 19:20.06 | batrick_ | ... |
| 19:20.09 | Shirik | ... |
| 19:20.10 | batrick_ | lol! |
| 19:20.14 | Shirik | now did you have to go and do that >.> |
| 19:20.21 | foxlit | Meh, I thought lua fixed that one |
| 19:20.22 | batrick_ | he's patched that! |
| 19:20.40 | Polarina | foxlit: It's a bug in 5.1.2. |
| 19:20.47 | batrick_ | he's patched it though |
| 19:20.52 | batrick_ | i bet he seg faulted |
| 19:20.52 | Polarina | foxlit: http://www.lua.org/bugs.html |
| 19:20.58 | batrick_ | luatask is buggy |
| 19:21.02 | Shirik | Polarina, yes, we're aware |
| 19:21.12 | Shirik | I think foxlit was the one who found that bug |
| 19:21.14 | batrick_ | --> a=function(a) coroutine.wrap(a)(a) end return a(a) |
| 19:21.14 | batbot | batrick_: > [string "0"]:1: [string "0"]:1: [string "0"]:1: [string "0"]:1: [string "0"]:1: [string "0"]:1: [string "0"]:1: [string "0"]:1: [string "0"]:1: [string "0"]:1: [string "0"]:1: [string "0"]:1: [string "0"]:1: [string "0"]:1: [string "0"]:1...(tldr) |
| 19:21.18 | Shirik | I know it was someone in this channel |
| 19:21.29 | foxlit | Shirik: yeah. |
| 19:21.38 | Polarina | foxlit: How did you discover it? |
| 19:21.44 | batrick_ | trying to break Cide? |
| 19:21.46 | batrick_ | lol |
| 19:21.47 | foxlit | Abusing bots, duh. |
| 19:21.55 | Polarina | foxlit: Haha.. |
| 19:23.22 | Polarina | foxlit: What were your reactions when you did that? |
| 19:23.40 | batrick_ | sadness no doubt |
| 19:24.40 | Shirik | yes, he was extremely depressed |
| 19:24.54 | foxlit | right! :P |
| 19:25.02 | Shirik | I then spent the next few hours in visual studio trying to figure out where it was, and it hurt my head |
| 19:25.24 | Shirik | it doesn't help that I had never looked at the C side of Lua before |
| 19:26.04 | batrick_ | visual studio shirik? I weep for you |
| 19:26.09 | batrick_ | l2vim |
| 19:26.23 | Shirik | Say what you wish, visual studio is one of the few great products Microsoft has made |
| 19:26.39 | zenzelezz | I have wet dreams about VS |
| 19:27.28 | batrick_ | o ya? |
| 19:28.48 | foxlit | Lua's C side has a stack overflow |
| 19:28.49 | Shirik | if the thread crashes, in most OSes, the program crashes |
| 19:29.01 | Shirik | WoW really can't handle it other than shutting itself down |
| 19:29.04 | foxlit | It's not that separate from the wow client itself |
| 19:29.18 | batrick_ | It seems LuaTask if fixed now |
| 19:29.33 | Shirik | I'm fairly certain Lua is a separate thread in WoW, but that's about it :) |
| 19:29.51 | batrick_ | it is shirik |
| 19:30.09 | Polarina | But Lua is in the same thread as WorldFrame. :( |
| 19:30.19 | batrick_ | they should monitor it, but they've made it policy that they don't help you fix your two broken pieces of the UI :) |
| 19:30.42 | batrick_ | Polarina: not really |
| 19:30.53 | Shirik | it really shouldn't be monitored |
| 19:31.00 | Polarina | batrick_: They why does it lag along with the UI? |
| 19:31.21 | Shirik | it would take an extra, typically unnecessary component of processing time |
| 19:31.22 | batrick_ | Well if Lua crashes they should just reload the UI, but perhaps that is more problematic than I thought |
| 19:31.30 | Shirik | they shouldn't have to assume that Lua will crash |
| 19:31.31 | batrick_ | Polarina: because It's not updating itself |
| 19:31.43 | Shirik | just as much as you assume that the rest of the program won't crash :) |
| 19:32.01 | batrick_ | Shirik: but it's so annoying when us addon authors have to exit wow >:) |
| 19:32.13 | Polarina | batrick_: That means, I could move WorldFrame to a coroutine? |
| 19:32.24 | foxlit | Those situations have little to do with you actually crashing anything |
| 19:32.48 | foxlit | Restart constraints on rescanning Addons/ are evil, but don't hurt much in the long run. |
| 19:33.08 | batrick_ | Polarina: no, I'm saying that what ever is producing the new frames to paint is not heard because Lua is locked up |
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| 19:43.09 | Kaso | If you cast a pet spell, is UNIT_SPELLCAST_SUCCEEDED arg1 "player" or "pet" ? |
| 19:46.35 | batrick_ | probably "playerpet" |
| 19:46.36 | batrick_ | ? |
| 19:48.53 | Kaso | playerpet is no different from pet |
| 19:48.58 | Kaso | just like playertarget and target |
| 19:49.16 | Kaso | im just wondering if you clicking on the buttons is considered you casting the spell or the pet |
| 19:49.19 | Kaso | i guess the pet |
| 19:50.04 | batrick_ | are u a warlock? |
| 19:50.23 | Kaso | Nope |
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| 19:59.03 | batrick | anybody know how to forcibly logout a user in linux? |
| 19:59.29 | Kaso | shutdown -h now |
| 19:59.53 | Kaso | I'd get the user logged out one way or another! |
| 19:59.55 | batrick | : / |
| 20:00.31 | batrick | screen keeps freezing up on me :'( |
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| 20:07.49 | batrick | not even shutdown -r now wouldwork... I had to hold the powerbutton, how sad |
| 20:09.32 | Polarina | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:17.11 | wereHamster | batrick, did you try 'init 0' ? |
| 20:17.37 | wereHamster | .. or sysrq |
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| 20:23.38 | Kaso | Is IsAddOnLoaded case sensitive ? |
| 20:24.05 | zenzelezz | doesn't seem to be |
| 20:24.23 | nevcairiel | no its not |
| 20:24.29 | Kaso | thanks |
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| 20:44.31 | Kelfarr | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:45.27 | batrick | that would be more for an addon than a macro |
| 20:45.34 | Kelfarr | lol |
| 20:45.34 | wereHamster | can that be made with aftercast? |
| 20:45.36 | Kelfarr | some guy made a topic |
| 20:45.43 | Kelfarr | no because windfury isn't a spell |
| 20:45.45 | Kelfarr | its a proc |
| 20:46.17 | batrick | just do it randomly, half the time you should be right :) |
| 20:46.43 | Kelfarr | i wasn't actually answering the quest |
| 20:46.47 | Kelfarr | question* |
| 20:57.35 | Iriel | While we're on the topic of AfterCast, I have to confess i'm not sure how most people use it, I only created it in the first place because folks kept asking for it on the forum. Anyway, I've been wondering if I can make it more generally useful but I need some feedback on how it's used.... |
| 20:58.23 | Iriel | Would it be more useful to pre-configure triggers and actions (like, when I successfully cast fireball, do X) than having to preceed each /cast with an /aftercast? |
| 20:58.37 | Iriel | Or is the ability to only act SOME of the time based on which macros include it very useful/ |
| 20:58.57 | Iriel | The changes in the 2.0 spell events are still making 100% compaitibility with the old behavior a challenge |
| 21:00.53 | Fisker- | btw Iriel |
| 21:00.58 | Fisker- | wasn't threatmeter slated for 2.4? |
| 21:01.30 | Iriel | I never heard them give any release for that.. the UI folks never announced it, it was mentioned in a raid panel. |
| 21:01.44 | Iriel | I suspect it may be a 3.0 thing |
| 21:01.47 | Fisker- | so it was all hot air? :o |
| 21:01.50 | Iriel | but really, have no information. |
| 21:01.54 | wereHamster | what? a builtin threatmeter? |
| 21:02.01 | zenzelezz | a basic one |
| 21:02.21 | Fisker- | i think it'll be more advanced than anything we otherwise got |
| 21:02.36 | Iriel | Well, it was blizzard game designers who talked about it, so it's likely more than hot air, but I dont think it was very far through the design-develop-release process. |
| 21:02.38 | wereHamster | raiding requires less and less skills.. |
| 21:02.49 | Fisker- | not really |
| 21:03.14 | Fisker- | threat isn't that important anymore |
| 21:03.29 | wereHamster | what's important now? |
| 21:03.57 | Fisker- | mobillity |
| 21:04.14 | Iriel | I'm not sure exactly how it works at Blizzard, but if it's anything like companies I've worked at, I suspect it was at the "Most raiders use some kind of threat meter now, we need to include something like that in the base game, let's announce it" stage, without actually having specifics on what level of detail or means of feedback are entailed. |
| 21:04.37 | Fisker- | could just've sworn that they announced it was for 2.4 |
| 21:04.38 | Iriel | i.e. designers had thought about it, developers had not begun to implement it. |
| 21:04.49 | wereHamster | I don't like it that because something isn't important that it should be made even easier to handle.. |
| 21:05.04 | Iriel | 2.4 has the combat log stuff, but that's all I remember being committed then (and even that was 'subject to change' but slouken's confirmed it'll be in) |
| 21:05.06 | Fisker- | it's not what it's about |
| 21:05.38 | Fisker- | It's about people being unable to play competively in raiding because threatmeters are pretty much the requirement |
| 21:06.05 | Fisker- | They can't block it, so why not support it so everyone can use it |
| 21:06.14 | Fisker- | Instead don't design tank & spank bosses |
| 21:06.20 | Fisker- | which they haven't done for a very long time btw |
| 21:09.59 | Fisker- | it's great if they put in accurate values btw |
| 21:10.22 | Fisker- | then i don't have to be mad about people not understanding that values might not always be accurate |
| 21:11.32 | foxlit | Giving accurate threat reports collapses yet another barrier to substituting me with a small lego robot |
| 21:12.00 | Fisker- | well again, if they won't others will |
| 21:12.20 | foxlit | I don't agree with the "They can't block it" assumption |
| 21:12.56 | Fisker- | they can |
| 21:13.10 | Fisker- | but it won't be feasible in regards to having a highly customizable UI |
| 21:14.12 | zenzelezz | to be honest, I like the slight uncertainty |
| 21:14.22 | zenzelezz | makes people have to pay attention |
| 21:14.23 | foxlit | It only really affects number-heavy uses of combat data; those don't really play a large part in customizing your UI. |
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| 21:16.04 | Fisker- | it still requires blocking damage values to stop it |
| 21:16.31 | Fisker- | meaning you screw the combat log, the on screen damage display, the scrolling combat text, etc. |
| 21:16.49 | Fisker- | well you could probably manage to keep the on screen damage display |
| 21:17.09 | Fisker- | hahahahahaha |
| 21:17.09 | Fisker- | http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;261186 |
| 21:17.10 | Fisker- | :D |
| 21:17.20 | foxlit | Fisker-: I don't agree. You can easily render those values available to widgets without letting addons see them directly. |
| 21:17.48 | Iriel | I suspect blizzard have a very difficult time balancing threat models complex enough they're interesting and foil 'trivial damage meter' approaches, with making an encounter that feels intuitive and is doable in a non-random sense. |
| 21:18.30 | Fisker- | foxlit even then you could just predetermine threat as well |
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| 21:18.58 | Fisker- | get the average value per cast and you're set, though not as accurate still possible |
| 21:20.16 | foxlit | Of course; you can't really help _that_ |
| 21:21.48 | foxlit | But making that data unreliable unless tallied over long-term thwarts the main motivation behind using a damage meter. |
| 21:22.08 | foxlit | Fix the grammatical and logical errors there :) |
| 21:23.03 | foxlit | Over a long time, your tank should be able to generate enough threat to stay ahead of you (unless you're some poor mana-starved druid with no subtlety in a 5-man group); you only really need threat meters at the start of a fight / immediately after a threat reset. |
| 21:23.48 | foxlit | I think the issue isn't really "can we break this?" but "should we break this?" from blizzard's point of view. |
| 21:24.18 | Fisker- | yeah |
| 21:24.41 | buu | foxlit: You don't think blizzard designs fights that require you to stay right below the tank at all times? |
| 21:25.46 | Fisker- | they don't |
| 21:26.18 | Xinhuan | not really |
| 21:26.32 | Xinhuan | they design fights that require more "perfect execution" nowadays |
| 21:26.43 | foxlit | buu: depends on who you are |
| 21:27.20 | foxlit | There are a few situations where you'd want to swap the aggro-holding tank; Vael's burning adrenaline is probably the most extreme example of requiring a threat line-up. |
| 21:28.01 | buu | foxlit: I'm thinking of VR where it has a lot of hp, an aggressive enrage timer and you have to stay below *3* tanks.. |
| 21:28.28 | Xinhuan | except you can do it with 4 tanks, to spread out the "de-aggro" more across more tanks. |
| 21:28.44 | Fisker- | i don't really think you can say that VR applies to your description |
| 21:28.48 | foxlit | Iirc, we did that with about two bears. |
| 21:29.23 | foxlit | VR isn't a challenge, really, if you've done the attunement to TK |
| 21:29.35 | Fisker- | I'd say that Vael is the only boss that actually fits your description |
| 21:29.37 | foxlit | Hitting the enrage timer suggests that your DPS is undergeared and/or incompetent. |
| 21:29.39 | buu | Heh, I suspect quite a few people would disagree. |
| 21:29.54 | buu | foxlit: Of course people are undergeared, that's the whole point. |
| 21:30.03 | buu | Anyone can overgear an instance, that's not challenge. |
| 21:30.14 | buu | The point is that skill should substitute for gear, to some degree. |
| 21:30.25 | Fisker- | it definitely can |
| 21:30.43 | Fisker- | we did Void Reaver without even having downed a boss in ssc |
| 21:31.09 | Fisker- | usually having to use shield wall on tanks because sometimes our dps was just short of enrage |
| 21:31.47 | buu | And do you think having an accurate threat meter played a large part in allowing that? |
| 21:32.07 | Xinhuan | no |
| 21:32.14 | Xinhuan | pretty sure you can do VR without a threat meter |
| 21:32.16 | buu | Heh. |
| 21:32.24 | buu | MAybe. |
| 21:32.31 | nevcairiel | just dont take shadow priests |
| 21:32.31 | Xinhuan | just have 4 tanks generate as much as they can, with hunters MDing every cooldown |
| 21:32.31 | nevcairiel | :P |
| 21:32.50 | Fisker- | Threat Meters weren't even accurate on VR until a couple of weeks ago |
| 21:32.52 | buu | And then the warlock pulls aggro and everyone dies |
| 21:32.52 | Fisker- | or a month ago |
| 21:33.06 | nevcairiel | warlock can soulshatter if their reaction is good enough |
| 21:33.13 | buu | And then he goes and eats the mages. |
| 21:33.16 | buu | Or other warlocks |
| 21:33.20 | buu | Who hopefully still have shatter |
| 21:33.22 | foxlit | nev: I'd make the point about preventive use of soulshatter |
| 21:33.25 | Fisker- | And again it's just about learning how your damage is in relation to the encounter and your tank |
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| 21:33.36 | buu | Fisker-: I think you'remissing my point. |
| 21:33.44 | Fisker- | how am i missing it? |
| 21:33.45 | foxlit | Him getting out of melee range of tanks poses the hah-let's-chase-down-other-dps problem if the tanks fell too far below |
| 21:33.46 | buu | Fisker-: I'm not trying to prove that encounters are impossible without a threat meter. |
| 21:34.02 | buu | Fisker-: Obviously with enough practice or skill or gear or whatever you can do it under any handicap you can imagine. |
| 21:34.04 | nevcairiel | a good tank will keep in melee range |
| 21:34.08 | Fisker- | i'm not saying that you are |
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| 21:34.16 | foxlit | You're trying to say, correct me if I'm wrong, that threat meters should allow people to run instances they haven't got the gear to run otherwise. |
| 21:34.19 | Fisker- | you are try prove that threatmeters were accurate and thus it was easier |
| 21:34.21 | buu | Fisker-: But TMs allow you to substitute.. skill. or something. |
| 21:34.21 | Fisker- | that is wrong |
| 21:34.27 | Fisker- | threatmeters were not accurate on VR |
| 21:34.37 | buu | Fisker-: Uh, how inaccurate were they? |
| 21:34.43 | nevcairiel | not that much |
| 21:34.47 | Fisker- | that depended on which one you used |
| 21:34.48 | nevcairiel | still a guideline to work with |
| 21:34.58 | Fisker- | They got adjusted some weeks ago as i said |
| 21:34.59 | buu | My anecdotal evidence seemed fairly accurate. |
| 21:35.29 | Fisker- | but as far as i remember it was reduced ~50% aggro reduction on knockback |
| 21:35.35 | nevcairiel | threatmeters basicly allow more DPS |
| 21:35.44 | Fisker- | but it was infact somewhere along 75% |
| 21:35.49 | buu | nevcairiel: Well, and they strongly prevent the 'whups, raid wipe' |
| 21:35.50 | nevcairiel | because you dont have to be over carefull |
| 21:36.15 | buu | I dunno. I have to go talk about rent, but I think we can all agree there's a reason everyone requires the use of a TM. |
| 21:36.30 | foxlit | We don't require the use of a TM |
| 21:36.34 | buu | Doomed! |
| 21:36.37 | nevcairiel | we do |
| 21:36.43 | foxlit | buu: No, not really |
| 21:37.02 | foxlit | Mainly failing on Archimonde now, but threat meters have nothing to do with that |
| 21:37.02 | Fisker- | we don't require it either unless it's a tanking role |
| 21:37.04 | buu | foxlit: You clear illidan, right? |
| 21:37.07 | buu | Oh good. |
| 21:37.25 | Fisker- | but everyone still have it installed pretty much |
| 21:37.26 | foxlit | Recall blue posts saying Illidan isn't a dps-check fight either. |
| 21:37.33 | nevcairiel | no its not |
| 21:37.48 | nevcairiel | illidan could be easily done without threatmeters |
| 21:37.59 | nevcairiel | but there are fights where it helps |
| 21:38.01 | nevcairiel | like bloodboil |
| 21:38.02 | Xinhuan | none of the paladins in my guild uses a threat meter - because it is not necessary |
| 21:38.09 | nevcairiel | so the hunters know which tank to MD next |
| 21:38.11 | buu | As .. healers? |
| 21:38.22 | Xinhuan | have you ever seen a paladin pull aggro from healing? |
| 21:38.32 | Xinhuan | apart from say the first 3 secs of a pull |
| 21:38.37 | buu | Heh. |
| 21:38.43 | nevcairiel | healers dont need threat meters .. *shrug |
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| 21:38.51 | nevcairiel | i only run one to monitor raid threat |
| 21:38.55 | buu | Can't really argue that. |
| 21:38.56 | Fisker- | same |
| 21:39.04 | Fisker- | though i guess it would be useful for multimob threat |
| 21:39.12 | Fisker- | but given it's not currently accurate it's not worth much |
| 21:39.14 | buu | Although I wonder if the uh, per mob threat in 2.4 will make stuff like murlocs easier. |
| 21:39.26 | nevcairiel | Dunno |
| 21:39.28 | nevcairiel | probably |
| 21:39.33 | nevcairiel | will certainly help in Illidan p2 |
| 21:39.40 | Xinhuan | nope it own't make murlocs easier |
| 21:39.43 | nevcairiel | where we occasionally have someone pulling aggro |
| 21:40.06 | Xinhuan | the combat log will uniquely identify mobs from one another, but they will not help you with telling which mob in the combat log is which mob in the actual game world |
| 21:40.17 | Fisker- | lolwut? |
| 21:40.21 | Fisker- | thought it would |
| 21:40.23 | Xinhuan | you can only deduce that at most, by inference |
| 21:40.30 | buu | Xinhuan: Um. |
| 21:40.31 | Xinhuan | by the amount of health left on a mob, for instance |
| 21:40.32 | Fisker- | that's pretty useless then |
| 21:40.34 | nevcairiel | so whats the point? |
| 21:40.44 | Xinhuan | the point is to provide an accurate combat log - not a threat mechanism |
| 21:40.46 | nevcairiel | and btw, i dont believe you until i see it blue |
| 21:40.55 | Xinhuan | alexander told me this today |
| 21:40.59 | Fisker- | "provide an accurate combat log"? |
| 21:41.01 | buu | Xinhuan: I seem to recall there was a function can use to say "is this thing mob1231213" |
| 21:41.03 | Xinhuan | alexyoshi that is |
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| 21:41.19 | Fisker- | how can that be the case when you say that the combat log won't help you distinguish between targets? |
| 21:41.20 | foxlit | But probably not the other way around |
| 21:41.26 | foxlit | Not "give me mob1232321" anyway |
| 21:41.30 | Fisker- | As well as the fact that the combat log already does produce right results |
| 21:41.31 | buu | foxlit: Of course not. |
| 21:41.36 | Xinhuan | it well help you, but only via inference |
| 21:41.51 | Xinhuan | if you know mob X suffered 1000 damage, mob Y suffered 500 damage |
| 21:41.59 | buu | Hrm. |
| 21:42.00 | Xinhuan | then even though mob X and Y have the same name |
| 21:42.04 | Xinhuan | you can infer which is which |
| 21:42.11 | Xinhuan | but other than that, you can't |
| 21:42.20 | Xinhuan | you can still infer though, via debuffs on each mob |
| 21:42.21 | buu | Xinhuan: Mmmm, we'll see. |
| 21:42.23 | nevcairiel | somehow i dont think any blizz employee would start disclosing information thats not available to the public yet *shrug* |
| 21:42.38 | Fisker- | then you're proving yourself wrong basically |
| 21:43.04 | foxlit | c&c balance changes keep killing my strategy :( |
| 21:43.14 | Fisker- | what you are saying implies some kind of damage meter of some kind, which doesn't exist |
| 21:43.39 | Fisker- | unless you mean it'll say like Mobname (1) Mobname (2) and so forth for duplicates |
| 21:43.53 | Fisker- | but i can't see why that can't be done without |
| 21:43.58 | Xinhuan | slouken's info only says each mob in the log gets a unique GUID, that's all |
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| 21:45.11 | Fisker- | i'm gonna play heroin hero then |
| 21:45.20 | Fisker- | almost got the dragon |
| 21:45.47 | Xinhuan | :o |
| 21:46.42 | Iriel | You will be able to distinguish combat log events for distinct mobs with the same name during a fight, yes. |
| 21:46.46 | Iriel | That's what the GUID's are for |
| 21:47.06 | zenzelezz | apparently the GUID will also tell the mob type |
| 21:47.08 | zenzelezz | from what I read |
| 21:47.12 | Xinhuan | yes, but i'm saying you can only distinguish them within the context of the combat log :) |
| 21:47.27 | nevcairiel | Mm |
| 21:47.45 | bleeter | DANCE, EVERYONE, DAMNIT |
| 21:47.46 | bleeter | \o/ |
| 21:48.01 | Cairenn | hi bleeter :p |
| 21:48.04 | |Jelly| | My throat hurts :( |
| 21:48.26 | Xinhuan | MurlocA took 50 damage. Another MurlocA took 50 damage - a different murloc - from a program point of view, an addon won't be able to tell which unitID belongs to which MurlocA |
| 21:51.35 | Xinhuan | so even if 2 different players did 50 damage to 2 different murlocs, threat meters won't be able to tell which murloc has aggro on which person without inference |
| 21:51.43 | nevcairiel | We should continue that discussion once we got real official api details |
| 21:51.47 | nevcairiel | hearsay ftl |
| 21:51.54 | Xinhuan | sure :) |
| 21:52.44 | Kelfarr | LOL |
| 21:52.55 | Kelfarr | some guy just posted a topic claiming WoWace hacked his account |
| 21:53.05 | Xinhuan | where |
| 21:53.16 | Kelfarr | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=3121013595&sid=1 |
| 21:53.55 | Fisker- | haha |
| 21:54.12 | Xinhuan | hehe |
| 21:54.27 | |Jelly| | Deja vu |
| 21:54.35 | |Jelly| | I can almost swear I've read that before. |
| 21:54.47 | Xinhuan | "At this point, I refuse to use another addon ever again. Unless Blizard can find a safer way to implement their use, I just don't find the security end of it worthwhile." |
| 21:54.48 | Xinhuan | hahaha |
| 21:55.06 | dylanm | Awesome. |
| 21:55.37 | Kelfarr | i know |
| 21:55.39 | Fisker- | FUD is awesome imo |
| 21:55.43 | Kelfarr | he thinks .lua files are going to hack him |
| 21:55.48 | Fisker- | well they are |
| 21:55.56 | Kelfarr | its true |
| 21:55.56 | Fisker- | but not when executed through WoW :P |
| 21:56.02 | Kelfarr | they are out to get his level 60 main |
| 21:56.20 | Xinhuan | he claims the use of WAU caused it |
| 21:56.21 | Xinhuan | :) |
| 21:57.23 | Kelfarr | then all of our accounts would be hacked |
| 21:57.34 | |Jelly| | My account was hacked. |
| 21:57.39 | |Jelly| | ...I'm blaming Shirik |
| 21:57.48 | Kelfarr | my account was hacked 2 year ago |
| 21:57.53 | Kelfarr | when i didn't use addons |
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| 21:58.11 | |Jelly| | My password was actually changed about 8 months ago. I was pretty johnny on the spot on calling Blizzard. Nothing happened. |
| 21:58.27 | Kelfarr | same |
| 21:58.38 | Kelfarr | called them the day after being hacked and had my account back |
| 21:59.04 | |Jelly| | I'd still like to know how Cog got haxxorzed |
| 21:59.48 | Fisker- | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=3121013595&sid=1 |
| 21:59.58 | Fisker- | tell the idiot that the project is open source |
| 22:01.56 | bleeter | Fisker-: DOne that... kinda ;) |
| 22:02.22 | |Jelly| | .....didn't the WAU used to only be available from SorceForge? |
| 22:02.46 | Fisker- | yup |
| 22:02.52 | Fisker- | it's still hosted on sourceforge as well |
| 22:03.16 | Iriel | Does that thread provide definitive proof that the keylogger was actually the file he downloaded from SF? |
| 22:03.22 | |Jelly| | no |
| 22:03.29 | Iriel | The OP seemed to be largely conjecture and hypothesis, which was a bit odd. |
| 22:03.33 | |Jelly| | It proves that he's a moron and needed a scapegoat. |
| 22:03.42 | amro_ | well, at least nobody's asking if addons will get them banned anymore |
| 22:05.35 | |Jelly| | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:07.02 | |Jelly| | BY THE WAY, Beowulf is alright. Would have been better in 3D |
| 22:07.36 | Kelfarr | seems too much like the pg13 version of 300 to me |
| 22:07.50 | |Jelly| | Yeah. We made fun of it a little. lol |
| 22:08.08 | |Jelly| | It was pretty good though. The animation on the males is amazing. The females were kind of :| though. |
| 22:08.26 | Kelfarr | I would deffenitly see it in 3d though. |
| 22:08.37 | |Jelly| | I think it would be amazing in 3D |
| 22:08.54 | |Jelly| | There are parts where you can tell it was made to be shown that way imo. |
| 22:10.21 | art3mis | werent' the brooms all supposed to poof by now? |
| 22:10.23 | Kelfarr | OMG LOL http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=jazY7cLfHr0 |
| 22:10.33 | Kelfarr | art3mis: 14 days /played |
| 22:10.50 | art3mis | ahh |
| 22:11.31 | bleeter | unbound |
| 22:12.07 | zenzelezz | you're going to try to sell it in the summer like snowballs, aren't you? |
| 22:13.08 | art3mis | how come you makeum snowballs in summertime |
| 22:13.16 | Tem | oh wow lol |
| 22:13.21 | art3mis | well you see geronimo it's too cold to make them in winter |
| 22:13.29 | Tem | did you guys see the thread where some guy thinks WAU hacked his account? |
| 22:13.44 | art3mis | you mean the one fisker paster about 20 lines up? |
| 22:13.52 | art3mis | pasted |
| 22:14.02 | Tem | *shrug* I can't see that far up |
| 22:14.18 | art3mis | l2skrolln00b |
| 22:14.36 | art3mis | yeah |
| 22:14.46 | Xinhuan | i chuckled |
| 22:14.50 | art3mis | its kind of funny that he keeps saying "i use trendmicro" |
| 22:15.01 | Xinhuan | and then i closed the window |
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| 22:15.06 | art3mis | cuz all i thought was "well thatll learn ya" |
| 22:15.19 | Xinhuan | because it looked like a troll post to attract 100 replies about how nub he is :) |
| 22:16.31 | Kelfarr | someone help me trying to answer this guys post |
| 22:16.34 | Kelfarr | . /castsequence petstay, petfollow |
| 22:16.44 | Kelfarr | is that the right pet command |
| 22:22.27 | bleeter | art3mis: indeed |
| 22:24.58 | art3mis | wheeee i get to do data recovery all monday |
| 22:25.27 | art3mis | client was using syncback to sync two drives WHILE he was having connection issues for the sjhared/mapped drives |
| 22:25.38 | art3mis | so it copied a shitload of 0k fiels over his good stuff |
| 22:25.42 | art3mis | files |
| 22:25.59 | art3mis | so i get to go see if there are the old ones kicking around to restore |
| 22:26.37 | art3mis | and then sell him on the glories of offsite backup since local backup is too cumbersome |
| 22:34.32 | art3mis | "Mr T hacked the world of warcraft server and created a custom class" "A Night elf Mohawk" <-- blizzard condones model editting! |
| 22:35.39 | mikma | shut up foo! |
| 22:47.00 | Fisker- | art3mis difference is, Blizzard has the right |
| 22:47.02 | Fisker- | you don't :) |
| 22:47.13 | Fisker- | also blizzard are hosting private servers OH MA GAWD |
| 22:49.41 | Tem | holy piss |
| 22:49.45 | Tem | that's one hell of a block |
| 22:55.19 | Tem | I never would have imagined myself rooting for tennessee |
| 22:56.37 | mikma | .. what? |
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| 23:15.51 | Fisker- | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=3121013493&sid=1 <-epic thread btw |
| 23:19.15 | Polarina | Fisker-: I fail to see how that is epic. |
| 23:19.37 | Fisker- | Guild loses guild bank stuff |
| 23:19.45 | Polarina | And? |
| 23:19.47 | Fisker- | Officer claims that he was hacked and GM's told them they can't do anything |
| 23:20.08 | Fisker- | Blizzard says that he never asked for restoration of any kind |
| 23:20.18 | Fisker- | Conclusion: He lied and got owned and kicked |
| 23:20.59 | Polarina | ? |
| 23:21.44 | Fisker- | ? |
| 23:21.50 | bleeter | ‽ |
| 23:21.57 | Polarina | I don't get it. |
| 23:22.19 | Kelfarr | ¿ |
| 23:22.34 | Fisker- | The Blizzard GM's showed the guild that the guy who claimed to have been hacking were actually just stealing the contents of the guild bank |
| 23:22.38 | mikma | for me seems like that the dude got promoted, ninjalooted teh guildbank and got kicked out |
| 23:22.43 | Polarina | lol |
| 23:22.57 | art3mis | its a guildbank bug |
| 23:23.15 | art3mis | if a person thats an officer gets booted from a guild he keeps the guildbank level when he joins a new one |
| 23:23.29 | Fisker- | That's not related to this post |
| 23:23.32 | art3mis | it doesnt get set to o on boot or join |
| 23:23.37 | Fisker- | he was just an officer who stole all the guild bank contents |
| 23:23.42 | Fisker- | claimed he got hacked |
| 23:23.53 | greppy | After messing with the WowAceUpdater... is there something similar for wowinterface.com? |
| 23:24.42 | Cairenn | not in and of itself, yet - but in the meantime, WUU is nice: http://wuu.vagabonds.info/ |
| 23:25.10 | Polarina | Good night. |
| 23:25.15 | Cairenn | night Polarina |
| 23:25.27 | Kelfarr | hey guys check out my kickass UI http://img512.imageshack.us/my.php?image=wowscrnshot112407175412qn3.jpg |
| 23:27.10 | art3mis | wowo where did you get the elephant? |
| 23:27.44 | Kelfarr | lolwat |
| 23:27.54 | greppy | what sphere mod is that? |
| 23:28.19 | Cairenn | he's joking guys, that isn't his mod - it's from this thread: http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=3121183577&sid=1 |
| 23:28.34 | Kelfarr | yeah1 |
| 23:29.35 | Fisker- | i hate that clock addon |
| 23:29.55 | mikma | Cairenn: when will ya code us a way to remove ui compilations from wowi? ;) |
| 23:30.08 | art3mis | i like the sphere mod though |
| 23:30.12 | art3mis | it looks shiny |
| 23:30.12 | Cairenn | never =/ |
| 23:30.25 | mikma | boo |
| 23:30.52 | Kelfarr | omg wow " some keylogger probably hopped onto the downloading stream while it was downloading or somethin.. idk how they get in there but hey anythings possible for a hacker.." |
| 23:30.55 | Fisker- | ui compilations are the bees knees |
| 23:31.00 | Fisker- | yeah |
| 23:31.04 | Fisker- | that quote made my day |
| 23:31.28 | Fisker- | i hate tuller btw |
| 23:31.32 | art3mis | hah |
| 23:31.39 | Fisker- | He's dissing mah IE |
| 23:32.24 | Fisker- | gonna sleep now |
| 23:32.25 | Fisker- | and be mad |
| 23:32.30 | Cairenn | mikma: however, if a compilation has one of your mods in it and you don't want to allow it - you can send the author a PM telling them to remove your mod and in the meantime, we pull the compilation |
| 23:32.39 | art3mis | so the other day i woke up i caught a gnome writing on my cdroms with a laser pen/pointer, you think he was infecting it? |
| 23:33.05 | mikma | Cairenn: no not that, i just like the idea that i can see only mods in modsites, not ui's :) |
| 23:33.23 | Cairenn | just ignore that category then ;) |
| 23:33.24 | art3mis | but mik, you would have missed HKUI! |
| 23:33.48 | mikma | Cairenn: but i still see the ui's in the latest-section (wah wah) |
| 23:34.21 | art3mis | compilations need to be unique, too many of them look ideitical to each other with only a few addon changes |
| 23:34.29 | Cairenn | speaking from a personal perspective (something I don't actually do that often when it comes to stuff like this) - I hate compilations, I think they're stupid |
| 23:34.29 | art3mis | identical |
| 23:34.49 | mikma | well someone threw an idea sometime that compilations should not have all the addons in them, but links to the addons they use or so :P |
| 23:34.51 | Cairenn | in general - there are some few exceptions |
| 23:35.34 | art3mis | someone needs to go make me a theme swapper |
| 23:35.39 | art3mis | ;) |
| 23:35.47 | Cairenn | oy, are you STILL on about that? |
| 23:35.49 | Kelfarr | "Whats the ui mod that does?" ahh my brain just exploded |
| 23:35.58 | art3mis | you'd be surprised at how lazy i am ;) |
| 23:36.24 | art3mis | and yeah until someone makes it for me im gonna keep takling about it ;P |
| 23:37.29 | Tem | Kelfarr, the scarier part is that my brain decoded that without me even noticing |
| 23:37.44 | mikma | hackerbrains |
| 23:38.04 | Tem | compilations are a waste of space |
| 23:38.08 | art3mis | tem: you better go change your passwd |
| 23:38.13 | art3mis | thats how keyloggers get in ;) |
| 23:38.18 | Kelfarr | haha |
| 23:38.25 | Kelfarr | they might jump onto your download |
| 23:38.31 | Kelfarr | better watchout |
| 23:38.42 | Cairenn | there are some (few) "compilations" that are not bad, but in general most of the ones posted are just crap |
| 23:38.42 | Tem | nah, my new hat will protect me |
| 23:38.52 | mikma | asshat? |
| 23:38.53 | art3mis | HKUI !! |
| 23:39.03 | Tem | ah, well if they jump into my download stream I'm fucked |
| 23:39.09 | art3mis | the single graetest comp ever! |
| 23:39.11 | Cairenn | post a list of what mods you use and provide your layout - done |
| 23:39.19 | art3mis | thats right graetest! |
| 23:39.21 | zenzelezz | Cairenn: you mean you don't like getting someone's poorly configured setup with 74 different addons running? |
| 23:39.55 | Shadowed | speaking of which |
| 23:39.55 | mikma | yeah. "i use these addons in my compilation: link, link, link. combine those addons with these settings: link. done" |
| 23:40.04 | Shadowed | I'm zipping my WTF and Interface folder and releasing "SuperEfficentCompilation" |
| 23:40.20 | mikma | Shadowed: no, you will not. |
| 23:40.24 | Shadowed | YES I WILL |
| 23:40.28 | mikma | Shadowed: "LowMemoryCompilation" |
| 23:40.35 | Shadowed | SuperLowerMemoryCompilation |
| 23:40.42 | mikma | even better! |
| 23:40.49 | Tem | SuperLowMemoryEfficientCompilation |
| 23:40.50 | dylanm | Best. |
| 23:40.56 | art3mis | shadowed: don't forget to add in a .bat file that sets it all up |
| 23:40.56 | Tem | SuperLowMemoryEfficientSuite! |
| 23:41.01 | Shadowed | good idea |
| 23:41.08 | mikma | oh now i know |
| 23:41.10 | dylanm | SuperLowMemoryEfficientSuiteVista |
| 23:41.20 | mikma | i'll make "Official WoWI compilation"! |
| 23:41.25 | mikma | that'll be sweet! |
| 23:41.27 | Tem | does that work on osx? |
| 23:41.34 | dylanm | Nothing can be the future if it ain't Vista. |
| 23:41.36 | zenzelezz | I should make a "compilation" that only links to the FrameXML |
| 23:41.49 | Shadowed | oh hey |
| 23:41.56 | Shadowed | i just realized wowi lists a desc about categories in tooltip |
| 23:41.59 | Shadowed | like 2 years later |
| 23:42.35 | art3mis | SuperLowUsableTotallyFuturisticAceCompilationExtreme |
| 23:42.42 | art3mis | it's perfect! |
| 23:42.46 | mikma | oh so win |
| 23:42.51 | Tem | slutface? |
| 23:42.56 | Shadowed | haha |
| 23:43.09 | Kelfarr | anyone know where rayne has been for the past week |
| 23:43.27 | mikma | here you go! |
| 23:43.38 | art3mis | he said something about needing to cut his lawn and wrists after he'd finished his black velvet roses peom |
| 23:43.38 | mikma | the listing of the Official WoWI compilation! http://wow.reaktio.net/wowi-compilation.txt |
| 23:44.12 | dylanm | wow |
| 23:44.27 | dylanm | Put revolutionary in the name though. |
| 23:44.28 | Cairenn | lol |
| 23:44.37 | dylanm | I need to check that addon out. |
| 23:44.57 | dylanm | Just so I can rag on it intelligently. |
| 23:46.30 | Cairenn | seriously, I'd absolutely love it if someone uploaded a compilation that all it was was a listing (with links) to their mods and their WTF folder |
| 23:46.33 | zenzelezz | http://icanhascheezburger.files.wordpress.com/2007/11/funny-pictures-redbulls-cat.jpg |
| 23:47.03 | mikma | zenzelezz: "red balls" |
| 23:47.04 | Cairenn | Kelfarr: no it doesn't! ROFL |
| 23:47.12 | dylanm | http://wowinterface.com/downloads/info7709-CRT.html |
| 23:47.20 | dylanm | Haha Indie's comment. |
| 23:47.28 | *** join/#wowi-lounge Wobin (n=wobin@203-158-36-102.dyn.iinet.net.au) |
| 23:47.59 | mikma | zenzelezz: http://youtube.com/watch?v=VYGF1Rb2vXIv |
| 23:48.02 | mikma | red balls! |
| 23:48.13 | dylanm | "thats a retarded comment, and you are lazy" |
| 23:49.17 | Cairenn|afk | ~seen Rayne |
| 23:49.19 | purl | rayne is currently on #wowi-lounge (11h 1m 16s). Has said a total of 27 messages. Is idling for 8h 24m 8s, last said: 'http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v442/SinOfDreams/WoWScrnShot_112407_101928.jpg pretty much the same as v6 so far...im still looking for a good font for it, and looking at a pitbull layout change.'. |
| 23:49.45 | Cairenn|afk | (to answer Kelfarr) |
| 23:50.10 | dylanm | That's the answer... he's looking for a font. |
| 23:51.01 | Kelfarr | oh ok |
| 23:51.12 | dylanm | Somewhere out in the wild. |
| 23:51.44 | dylanm | The elusive verdana. The ferocious comic sans. |
| 23:53.13 | Tem | someone kill the blizzard updator for me |
| 23:55.14 | Tem | it's eating all my bandwidth while being slow as hell |
| 23:56.23 | Xinhuan | blizz updater has stuff for downloader? |
| 23:56.29 | Xinhuan | download* |
| 23:56.44 | Tem | I never updated my laptop to 2.3 |
| 23:56.55 | Xinhuan | look in your cache folder then |
| 23:56.56 | dylanm | I just pull the torrent files out. |
| 23:57.05 | Xinhuan | you'll see a .torrent file there |
| 23:57.05 | dylanm | And use Transmission or whatever. |
| 23:57.10 | Wobin | hi2u new government |
| 23:57.12 | Xinhuan | (wow folder)\cache\ |
| 23:57.27 | Xinhuan | you can use that .torrent directly in any of your favourite BT client |
| 23:57.33 | Xinhuan | instead of blizz updater |
| 23:57.43 | dylanm | (And thus cap it :O ) |
| 23:59.57 | Xinhuan | its just that most people don't seem to know blizzard updater throws the .torrent file there ;p |
