| 00:00.11 | bleeter | oh, in case anyone was wondering... reason why my IRC stats haven't updated in a few days is that my server's runng FFT's across my 100GB of music trying to locate duplicate music files, thus I've disabled the stat gen |
| 00:00.37 | foxlit | It's very seldom that you're overgeared in a raiding context; that usually implies that you should've stopped running that dungeon ages ago. |
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| 00:00.59 | foxlit | I've soloed scholo; there's no challenge in 70 gear. |
| 00:01.18 | foxlit | Comparatively, Kael'thas requires a heckload more effort. |
| 00:01.22 | art3mis | and theres little personal accomplishment in clearing a dungeon with 24 others |
| 00:01.42 | foxlit | You're basically wrong. |
| 00:01.50 | kd3 | try doing some high-end encounters that requires everyone to be on their a-game? |
| 00:01.53 | art3mis | except for the people that went through it on ptr and devised the strats that you didnt elarn on your own you just went and looked up |
| 00:01.55 | kd3 | C'Thun's my favorite example |
| 00:02.29 | foxlit | You may be trying to extrapolate what high end raiding looks like based on your experience with lower-headcount conent. Don't. |
| 00:03.08 | foxlit | Penalties for individual failures are introduced much later in the game; you're unable to do some bosses without every one of the 25 people in the raid performing to a certain standard |
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| 00:03.45 | art3mis | what what do you do after that boss is dead and you've cleared that dungeon? |
| 00:03.54 | art3mis | sit around and farm rep of gold to make the next attempt |
| 00:03.55 | foxlit | You go on to the next dungeon |
| 00:04.05 | art3mis | tedious and retarded |
| 00:04.27 | Taeri | art3mis: why? |
| 00:04.38 | foxlit | I don't see why solo play isn't "tedious and retarded", then. |
| 00:05.15 | foxlit | Because farming rep and gold is largely what wow's solo content is. |
| 00:05.25 | art3mis | and full circle |
| 00:05.32 | art3mis | i HATE that part |
| 00:05.39 | art3mis | i hate the retarded farming rep time sink |
| 00:05.49 | art3mis | i hate not ahving new stuff to muck around with |
| 00:05.59 | foxlit | Spoiler: new stuff is in raids. |
| 00:06.03 | art3mis | and no raid content != new content to muck around with |
| 00:06.49 | foxlit | Is anything you do while outside raids at 70 really that different than what you do outside raids at 2? |
| 00:06.50 | art3mis | how much of raid content is gone to with the "hey im bored im gnna go hang out *here* and see what neat things i find |
| 00:07.16 | art3mis | foxlit: appearantly it is since im not a loot whore? |
| 00:07.36 | art3mis | i have more fun running around exploring than i do farming or raiding |
| 00:07.47 | foxlit | Meh. You do raid content for the challenge, not the epics. |
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| 00:07.58 | art3mis | i'd rather not invest 4-5 hours a night doing something that i benefit very little from and get no enjoyment out of |
| 00:08.00 | foxlit | The challenge present in raid content is incomparable to anything you can do outside raids. |
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| 00:08.07 | art3mis | not really |
| 00:08.59 | foxlit | Anything in particular that's worth mentioning there, or just general disagreement? |
| 00:09.07 | art3mis | being ina g roup and killing gruul != the fun i have seeing how well i do against elite dragon kin or seeing if i can kite giants to odd places |
| 00:10.09 | art3mis | or hell MCing gamon and taking him to shimmering flats to see the races |
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| 00:11.16 | Drea | my problem has always been finding the people to actually do the raids with on my time instead of 6-9 eastern time. there are some of us that raiding is damn near impossible to do. |
| 00:11.40 | art3mis | yeah echo isles has a midnight raiding crew |
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| 00:11.56 | Drea | i need a midday raiding crew. lol |
| 00:11.59 | art3mis | heh |
| 00:12.00 | foxlit | Gruul is hardly the epic conclusion of raid content :) |
| 00:12.10 | art3mis | fox it was an example |
| 00:12.12 | Guillotine | whats the ascii code number for \n? |
| 00:12.13 | Drea | noon to 4. :D perfect. |
| 00:12.20 | art3mis | gruul == leo == kael == illid |
| 00:12.21 | foxlit | Compare killing him to killing some level 69 non-elite mob in netherstorm |
| 00:12.37 | art3mis | its all boring and pointless to me |
| 00:12.49 | foxlit | And dragging / kiting mobs isn't? |
| 00:12.52 | art3mis | it doesnt unlock secret new fun to run around when you're bored content |
| 00:12.56 | Drea | is it worth it to play PTR and see it all for the first time? |
| 00:13.05 | foxlit | "grats, you've learned how to apply snare effects. Would you like to repeat that for four hours?" |
| 00:13.06 | art3mis | drea: to me not so much |
| 00:13.17 | art3mis | i dont think ive been on a ptr yet |
| 00:13.25 | Drea | art: why not? just playin devil's advocate here.. :D |
| 00:13.44 | art3mis | i did beta tbc and that was fun since it was all new and bought tbc cuz i had fergotten most of the stuff when it was finally relweased |
| 00:13.52 | Wobwork | Drea: what's the time for you now? |
| 00:14.02 | Drea | well wrath of the lich king is comin out soon |
| 00:14.19 | Drea | Wobwork: 5:15, almost time to get offline and hang out with my kid till bout 9ish. |
| 00:14.19 | art3mis | drea: i suppose its fun for the new group of people and the new content, but really im gonna be playing that content eventually why not keep it special and new after its been tested and works right |
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| 00:14.46 | art3mis | new "acts" vs new patches is more or elss the line |
| 00:14.49 | art3mis | less |
| 00:14.55 | bleeter | guys, question for you. is this a bug. When gather motes from gas clouds, if my bag is full, I get a 'bag is full' error message and the cloud disappears. further, if I have a partial stack (say 8 motes), the stack will not complete (ie, I don't get 2 mots to finish the stack off and miss the other 2-3 motes) |
| 00:14.59 | art3mis | new acts means a whole new world |
| 00:15.10 | Drea | i'd say out of all the MMO's WoW does it best, trys pretty hard to implement new content with patches etc. IE the new dungeon that just came out.. |
| 00:15.17 | art3mis | new acts just means more or the same cept ill be required to group with people that i'd rather not |
| 00:15.23 | foxlit | bleeter: gas clouds shouldn't disappear |
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| 00:15.47 | foxlit | bleeter: stacks-not-filling-with-spillover-that-doesn't-fit is the default behaviour for all situations |
| 00:16.10 | art3mis | drea: i'd be happy if they sat someone down and retooled the old ones or even imped a solo dungeon quest where you ahve to solo all the 1-60 5man dungeons to get key pieces to open the new solo dungeon thats tailored for your class |
| 00:16.27 | art3mis | i could run a new "my level" dungeon over and over solo for fun when iw as bored |
| 00:16.36 | art3mis | thats why i solo strat and scholo |
| 00:16.37 | bleeter | foxlit: rightio :) I'd be happy to have that disappear thing fixed, so when I encounter the issue I can double check my bags, then re-gather. I'll file a report :) |
| 00:16.39 | foxlit | I've soloed all 60 5-man content <3 |
| 00:16.44 | art3mis | its certainly not for the loot ;P |
| 00:16.56 | foxlit | Nah, did it to complete the quest/key collection |
| 00:17.04 | foxlit | Plus In Dreams is just too win of a quest to not do |
| 00:17.09 | art3mis | foxlit: yeah retooled 1-60man dungeons ;P for a quest key |
| 00:17.13 | art3mis | all soloable |
| 00:17.18 | Drea | hell, that sounds like a lotta fun. suggest it on the forums, but i'm sure they'll state there is some sorta manpower problem etc. |
| 00:17.22 | art3mis | even the alliance ones |
| 00:17.24 | foxlit | They're all soloable currently, tbh :) |
| 00:17.27 | art3mis | or horde ones if yer alliance |
| 00:17.37 | foxlit | But, and this is a big one, they aren't actually fun by themselves. |
| 00:17.46 | art3mis | foxlit: nononon i mean you go to sfk and tis level 20ish mbos its level 70ish ;P |
| 00:17.54 | Drea | what i think would be neat, is instanced dungeons that change each time u go in. |
| 00:18.06 | Drea | mobs move around, change, layout change etc. |
| 00:18.18 | art3mis | that would be a lot of work on theri aprt |
| 00:18.19 | art3mis | part |
| 00:18.25 | art3mis | the landscape anyways |
| 00:18.42 | art3mis | but having different mob locations and tasks available would be great |
| 00:19.15 | foxlit | Only actually fun piece of 70 solo content is Shartuul |
| 00:19.24 | foxlit | And even then, it does wear out after a few kills |
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| 00:19.56 | foxlit | It's somewhat silly; I'm able to do him without charged crystal focus by now, but it still requires paying attention as to what's going on |
| 00:20.11 | art3mis | thats the BE summon guy? |
| 00:20.14 | foxlit | Guilds that do not use prepackaged strategies also exist. |
| 00:20.28 | foxlit | Yeah, ogri'la rep/rune banish thing |
| 00:20.34 | art3mis | foxlit: not on any of the realms ive played ;P |
| 00:20.41 | foxlit | Heck, I was in one through BWL-Naxx. |
| 00:20.42 | art3mis | simon was fun |
| 00:20.50 | buu | foxlit: I've never managed to get that done with no crystal focus =[ |
| 00:20.52 | art3mis | i like simon |
| 00:21.07 | foxlit | Though I find myself remembering them in pairs now |
| 00:21.58 | foxlit | buu: There's a bit of luck involved with stuff not resisting drain life (enough resists will kill you), but otherwise, there's nothing that requires you to use it - just mitigates fucking up somewhat :) |
| 00:22.32 | buu | foxlit: Yeah.. I always end up vs shartuul with like 15% hp going |
| 00:22.34 | buu | "oh shit" |
| 00:22.35 | kd3 | good freaking grief... 5 different threads with auctioneer in the title on the front page? |
| 00:23.02 | buu | foxlit: My biggest problem is the cooldowns on switching forms |
| 00:23.19 | art3mis | no mo cooldowns! |
| 00:23.21 | foxlit | I devised the following: start out in shadow |
| 00:23.29 | buu | foxlit: Yeah. |
| 00:23.29 | foxlit | deathblast him to make sure your spells land |
| 00:23.35 | buu | Deathblast? |
| 00:23.36 | foxlit | Then land siphon life and switch to fire |
| 00:23.41 | foxlit | Shadow nuke |
| 00:23.50 | foxlit | Basically the only spell you can spam in shadow form :) |
| 00:23.51 | buu | Oh, just to check if he's vulnerable yet? |
| 00:24.04 | foxlit | Yeah, I've had annoying issues with him eating the first siphon life otherwise |
| 00:24.12 | buu | Oh yeah. That's annoying. |
| 00:24.18 | foxlit | Then switch to fire and do the usual routine |
| 00:24.27 | buu | I just run around shadow nova'ing the eyes until he starts chasing me. |
| 00:24.31 | foxlit | There are only two situations where you have to switch out of fire :) |
| 00:24.32 | buu | foxlit: Do you use iceblock? |
| 00:24.42 | foxlit | Sometimes, but it's not required |
| 00:24.51 | Kelfarr | trainable iceblock in 2.3 ftw |
| 00:24.53 | Kelfarr | can't wait |
| 00:24.56 | buu | Kelfarr: diaf |
| 00:25.00 | foxlit | When he resummons the eyes, switch to shadow again |
| 00:25.23 | buu | foxlit: Do you wipe out all the eyes or justa nova or two? |
| 00:25.23 | foxlit | I previously thought you needed shadowform to clear out the eyes, and it seemed like a good time to deathblast / refresh siphon |
| 00:25.29 | foxlit | Just one |
| 00:25.34 | foxlit | But it turns out you don't need to. |
| 00:25.38 | buu | Eh? |
| 00:25.53 | foxlit | If you stand inside the teleporter itself |
| 00:26.12 | foxlit | You'll have no LoS issues and outrange the stalks' mind flay range |
| 00:26.24 | buu | Now that's interesting. |
| 00:26.35 | buu | But yeah, RE your earlier mention, it is the best solo content in the game probably. |
| 00:26.53 | foxlit | But anyway, you need to drop back to shadow anyway to refresh siphon life, or he'll kill you before you kill him. |
| 00:26.59 | buu | There's a question BE where you shutdown a 'demon transport' or something by taking control of a fel cannon is pretty cool. |
| 00:27.04 | buu | foxlit: You deathblast/siphon, right? |
| 00:27.20 | foxlit | Yep; you'd want to get as much health of of it as possible |
| 00:27.37 | buu | Yup. |
| 00:27.39 | foxlit | If I recently ate an incinerate (or am low on health), I can also deathblast the new siphon and apply shadow nova instead |
| 00:27.50 | buu | It always seems like I manage to go to shadow just as he immolates me |
| 00:28.04 | Taeri | Ah, crap, why doesn't WoW let addons make files and whatnot during play? (or so I read anyway, not tested, new to UI stuff) |
| 00:28.24 | buu | Taeri: So we can't EXPLOIT THE GAME PLAY SYSTEM. |
| 00:28.25 | bleeter | Taeri: correct, fileIO is removed from wow's lua |
| 00:28.27 | foxlit | Taeri: the entire UI is sandboxed to prevent interaction with the outside world. |
| 00:28.41 | buu | It is sort of nice not having to worry about malicious code, but .. |
| 00:28.54 | Taeri | buu: true, but still kinda annoying. |
| 00:28.59 | buu | Taeri: Very annoying =[ |
| 00:29.02 | bleeter | Taeri: most (if not all) direct OS interaction is removed |
| 00:29.25 | Taeri | Ohwell, will have to find a workaround then. |
| 00:29.30 | buu | Good luck. |
| 00:29.31 | Shirik | what workaround? |
| 00:29.34 | Shirik | What are you trying to do... |
| 00:29.45 | Esamynn|Work | Taeri: there shouldn't BE a workaround |
| 00:29.49 | bleeter | kd3: we're loved, what can I say? ;) |
| 00:30.03 | foxlit | Depends on what you want to do, really :) |
| 00:30.08 | kd3 | hm? |
| 00:30.13 | Taeri | Esamynn|Work: do you know what I am even trying to do? :P |
| 00:30.21 | bleeter | kd3: 5 auc threads |
| 00:30.22 | Shirik | why don't you tell us |
| 00:30.24 | foxlit | SavedVariables are a workaround for some problems involving data transfer between game and world :) |
| 00:30.26 | Shirik | instead of being cryptic about it |
| 00:30.28 | Esamynn|Work | Taeri: nope, but you should tell us |
| 00:30.42 | kd3 | oh, heh |
| 00:31.14 | Taeri | I want to make a guildaddon for my guild. :P |
| 00:31.22 | Shirik | and this involves files.. how? |
| 00:31.24 | Taeri | and make it interact with a webpage |
| 00:31.44 | Shirik | best you're going to be able to do is write a SV file and then have the website be able to interpret that |
| 00:31.50 | buu | Taeri: What you do is store things in a saved variable then read that file. |
| 00:31.53 | buu | =[ |
| 00:31.55 | buu | Shirik cheats. |
| 00:32.06 | Shirik | no you just fail at typing :P |
| 00:32.10 | Taeri | buu: yeah, I figured. |
| 00:32.19 | buu | Shirik: I'm.. distracted? |
| 00:32.32 | Shirik | foxlit: preemption results in less deterministic systems :D |
| 00:32.38 | Shirik | Whoo I learned something from my RT class! |
| 00:32.42 | Taeri | But even with that limitation, it's still possible to do. |
| 00:33.04 | foxlit | Screw determinism, it prevents cryptographically-secure random number generation! |
| 00:33.19 | Taeri | therefore, find a neat workaround/solution |
| 00:34.05 | buu | Taeri: Er, that is the workaround. |
| 00:34.14 | Taeri | I know |
| 00:34.17 | Taeri | >__> |
| 00:34.24 | Taeri | bad wording, sorry, tired. |
| 00:34.36 | Shirik | foxlit: Random numbers are impossible :P |
| 00:35.14 | foxlit | A personality is a collection of microautistic disorders! |
| 00:35.53 | Shirik | huh? |
| 00:36.07 | Taeri | so it's pretty much about saving stuff to a sv, and making a client that proccesses the sv file, and uploads the information to the website. |
| 00:37.12 | Taeri | and the ofcourse also have the client fetch updates from the website, and making it readable ingame. (that is possible?) |
| 00:37.30 | foxlit | And sufficiently complex systems are able to exist with internal contradictions |
| 00:37.43 | kd3 | it'd take a UI reload to handle SV/addon code updates |
| 00:38.07 | foxlit | Two if you want two-way communication |
| 00:38.08 | Shirik | yeah, just do something like |
| 00:38.17 | Taeri | kd3: but if it's done before the the game loads. :p |
| 00:38.32 | Shirik | When you load, get the current time. Once 60 seconds have passed, do a ReloadUI() |
| 00:38.44 | foxlit | Shirik: can't reload on a timer :) |
| 00:38.50 | Shirik | why not? |
| 00:39.04 | foxlit | protected, hardware interaction |
| 00:39.08 | Shirik | really? |
| 00:39.12 | foxlit | Yeah. |
| 00:39.13 | Shirik | huh |
| 00:39.15 | Shirik | ok |
| 00:39.17 | foxlit | Was in some patch ages ago |
| 00:39.24 | Shirik | pop up a box that says "Your info is out of date, click this button!" |
| 00:39.26 | Taeri | got to love limitations |
| 00:39.29 | Shirik | which then calls ReloadUI() |
| 00:39.31 | Wobwork | hehe |
| 00:39.38 | Taeri | Shirik: that works too XD |
| 00:39.42 | Wobwork | make an invisible button the size of the worldframe |
| 00:39.44 | foxlit | It's nice, though |
| 00:39.45 | Shirik | yes |
| 00:39.57 | foxlit | You can't get stuck in a ReloadUI-loop, for one. |
| 00:39.59 | Shirik | WorldFrame:SetScript("OnMousePressed", function() ReloadUI() end) |
| 00:40.06 | foxlit | Heh |
| 00:40.09 | foxlit | why not just |
| 00:40.10 | Wobwork | That can't fail to work! |
| 00:40.10 | bleeter | Taeri: sounds a lot like what you're wanting to do is what the rpgo charprofiler/guildprofiler foo does |
| 00:40.21 | foxlit | WorldFrame:SetScript("OnMousePressed", ReloadUI) |
| 00:40.26 | KarlThePagan | Operation: cannot possibly fail to succeed |
| 00:40.34 | Shirik | foxlit >< because I wasn't thinking about it |
| 00:40.56 | Shirik | bleh |
| 00:41.07 | Shirik | [string "WorldFrame:SetScript("OnMousePressed", Relo..."]:1: WorldFrame doesn't have a "OnMousePressed" script |
| 00:41.15 | Esamynn|Work | lol |
| 00:41.25 | foxlit | It's a frame, duh! |
| 00:41.27 | Esamynn|Work | Shirik: how about OnMouseDown :P |
| 00:41.29 | Shirik | there we go |
| 00:41.31 | Shirik | OnMouseDown |
| 00:41.35 | Shirik | except, something died |
| 00:41.46 | Shirik | MACRO_ACTION_BLOCKED >.> |
| 00:41.51 | Taeri | bleeter: there's lots of guildthingies out there, just none that I feel have what I really want. |
| 00:41.57 | foxlit | hah |
| 00:42.08 | foxlit | on the assign, or on the subsequent execute? |
| 00:42.43 | MentalPower | Shirik: you want OnClick |
| 00:42.55 | Shirik | foxlit: On the execute |
| 00:43.05 | foxlit | probably not hardware enough |
| 00:43.06 | Shirik | MentalPower: World frame has an OnClick? |
| 00:43.11 | MentalPower | since neither OnMouseDown nor OnMouseUp supply the required hardware event that ReloadUI() needs |
| 00:43.24 | MentalPower | Shirik: hell if I know |
| 00:43.26 | Shirik | This doesn't work either: /script WorldFrame:SetScript("OnMouseDown", function() ConsoleExec("reloadui") end) |
| 00:43.27 | Shirik | =( |
| 00:43.29 | bleeter | Taeri: fair enough, was merely suggesting a reasonably decent basepoint of other 'product' comparison to show how it's done, etc. |
| 00:43.30 | Esamynn|Work | no, it does not |
| 00:43.33 | MentalPower | I'm just saying OnMouseDown won't work |
| 00:43.37 | Esamynn|Work | only Buttons have OnClick |
| 00:43.48 | Shirik | [string "WorldFrame:SetScript("OnClick", function() ..."]:1: WorldFrame doesn't have a "OnClick" script |
| 00:44.22 | Taeri | bleeter: mm, thanks ^^ |
| 00:44.58 | Taeri | this guildaddon thingie is... waywaywaaaay into the future though, atm I have problems positioning a Slider correctly in the XML part of it all.:P |
| 00:45.12 | foxlit | sliders are evil things |
| 00:45.22 | Esamynn|Work | foxlit: no they aren't :P |
| 00:45.33 | foxlit | Yeah, they are |
| 00:45.41 | foxlit | I really prefer an UpDownTextbox :) |
| 00:45.42 | Esamynn|Work | and why is that? |
| 00:45.58 | MentalPower | Shirik: /run local button = CreateFrame"Button" button:SetAllPoints(WorldFrame) button:SetScript("OnClick", ReloadUI) |
| 00:45.59 | Shirik | This didn't work either =( /script WorldFrame:SetScript("OnMouseDown", function() securecall(ConsoleExec, "reloadui") end) |
| 00:46.12 | Taeri | I'm just playing around with the interface part atm, see how I set up stuff visualy. |
| 00:46.20 | Wobwork | btw |
| 00:46.29 | Wobwork | when could we hook setscript on the worldframe? |
| 00:46.34 | Wobwork | I thought that was disabled |
| 00:46.47 | foxlit | I dislike the FontString architecture involved; there's no easy end-user way to specify a specific value and it generally looks bad. |
| 00:46.47 | Taeri | the real code to it all can come later. :P |
| 00:47.05 | foxlit | Don't get me wrong, I actually use Sliders in a few configuration dialogs. They leave much to be desired, however. |
| 00:47.42 | Esamynn|Work | Shirik: there is NO point to you using securecall, it's for using in signed code only |
| 00:47.50 | Shirik | I know :P |
| 00:47.54 | Arrowmaster | youve been able to setscript worldframe since like setscript was added |
| 00:47.55 | Shirik | I just wanted to see what would happen |
| 00:47.55 | Arrowmaster | i think |
| 00:47.56 | Shirik | you never know ^^ |
| 00:48.25 | foxlit | hm, unpack |
| 00:48.33 | Shirik | hrm |
| 00:48.41 | Shirik | WorldFrame = CreateFrame"Button" ? |
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| 00:48.48 | Esamynn|Work | foxlit: and what would you do to Sliders to make them better? |
| 00:48.58 | Arrowmaster | fishingace uses worldframe:setscript("onmousedown", ...) and so does my hackish goldenrun update |
| 00:49.25 | foxlit | lua> t = setmetatable({}, {__index=function() print("hi!"); end}); t[1] = "meh"; e = unpack(t); |
| 00:49.26 | lua_bot | foxlit: |
| 00:49.47 | foxlit | so much for that idea |
| 00:50.10 | Esamynn|Work | foxlit: heh, unpack cheats ;) |
| 00:50.27 | foxlit | It looks up the number of elements rather than attempting to iterate until failure |
| 00:50.38 | Esamynn|Work | yup |
| 00:50.44 | MentalPower | and I also think it uses rawget() |
| 00:51.23 | Shirik | most built-in iterators do |
| 00:51.33 | Taeri | Anyone of you guys used DepositBox at some point? |
| 00:51.33 | MentalPower | Shirik: WorldFrame = CreateFrame"Button" would likely cause taint galore |
| 00:51.43 | Shirik | MentalPower: Actually as far as I can tell, it did nothing at all :D |
| 00:51.58 | KarlThePagan | ok - what's wrong with this picture... Bainen was healing Cairsell - http://img230.imageshack.us/my.php?image=wowscrnshot111707134746dc7.jpg |
| 00:51.58 | foxlit | lua> t = setmetatable({}, {__index=function() return 42; end}); for i=1,10 do t[i] = i; end t[5] = nil; print(unpack(t)); |
| 00:51.58 | lua_bot | foxlit: 1, 2, 3, 4, nil, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10 |
| 00:52.10 | foxlit | Indeed it does |
| 00:52.34 | foxlit | Esamynn|Work: integrate more of those into the Slider api. |
| 00:54.35 | Arrowmaster | lua> print(unpack(t)) |
| 00:54.35 | lua_bot | Arrowmaster: [string "print(unpack(t))"]:1: bad argument #1 to 'unpack' (table expected, got nil) |
| 00:54.48 | Arrowmaster | so it doesnt remember stuff anymore |
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| 00:57.19 | Guillotine | anybody know the ascii value equivalents for \r\n? I'm thinking its 13 and 10 respectively but... |
| 00:57.30 | MentalPower | Arrowmaster: lua_bot never did, batbot I think still does |
| 00:57.42 | MentalPower | --> t = {1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,0} |
| 00:57.44 | Iriel | Guillotine: correct |
| 00:57.45 | Taeri | Ohwell, I'm tired. And since I'm about to fall asleep on my keyboard, it's probably better if I come back tomorrow and ask my stupid questions then! |
| 00:57.47 | Shirik | Guillotine: 10 13 |
| 00:57.50 | MentalPower | --> unpack(t) |
| 00:57.50 | batbot | MentalPower: > 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 0 |
| 00:57.59 | Shirik | er, 13 10 |
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| 00:58.09 | Shirik | Doesn't \n come first? |
| 00:58.32 | Iriel | \n = 10, \r = 13, unix line endings = \n, windows = \r\n (CRNL) |
| 00:58.44 | Shirik | hm, wierd |
| 00:58.48 | Shirik | I always jack up their order |
| 00:58.52 | Shirik | every time I have to test it >< |
| 00:58.53 | MentalPower | old mac line endings = \r |
| 00:59.16 | Shirik | I've come to the point where I write my applications just expecting either 13 or 10, then skipping until it finds no more 13s or 10s |
| 00:59.24 | KarlThePagan | 10,13 it is |
| 00:59.28 | art3mis | why are hamburgers called hamburgers when they arent made of ham |
| 00:59.39 | KarlThePagan | I parse log files at work Shirik it is 10,13 ;) |
| 00:59.53 | Shirik | KarlThePagan: Iriel just said the contrary? :/ |
| 01:00.02 | a-stray-cat | art3mis: because they're made of people from hamburg. |
| 01:00.06 | MentalPower | >>> string.byte"\n" |
| 01:00.07 | Cide | MentalPower: 10 |
| 01:00.09 | MentalPower | >>> string.byte"\r" |
| 01:00.09 | Cide | MentalPower: 13 |
| 01:00.11 | MentalPower | there |
| 01:00.12 | a-stray-cat | that's why they're so delicious. |
| 01:00.20 | KarlThePagan | huh |
| 01:00.24 | Shirik | MentalPower: That's not the question though :P |
| 01:00.39 | KarlThePagan | well I'm a space cadet... and now i wanna double check my parsers :P |
| 01:00.40 | Shirik | or maybe it is, I dunno |
| 01:00.55 | MentalPower | Shirik: [20:56:57]<Guillotine>anybody know the ascii value equivalents for \r\n? I'm thinking its 13 and 10 respectively but... |
| 01:00.59 | MentalPower | I think it is |
| 01:01.04 | Shirik | "respectively" is the key word |
| 01:01.12 | Shirik | 14(1911:5611:5114) 14(11Shirik14) Doesn't \n come first? |
| 01:01.14 | art3mis | thats stray |
| 01:01.15 | Guillotine | thanks all :) |
| 01:01.16 | Iriel | By the way, on the earlier subject of unpack, it does an internal getn then it uses rawget |
| 01:01.20 | KarlThePagan | crnl is it... I mixed up my numbers obviously :P |
| 01:01.29 | Guillotine | Shirik: for IRC purposes, \r\n is used :) |
| 01:01.47 | Shirik | I thought IRC just expected one of the two :/ |
| 01:01.52 | Shirik | this is why standards need to be made for this crap! |
| 01:02.07 | Guillotine | hmm. I've always used both. wonder if it would work with just one... |
| 01:02.09 | Guillotine | you could be right |
| 01:02.25 | Iriel | Shirik: Remeber though, good internet software generally emits strictly standards compliant output, and accepts as loose input as it can safely get away with |
| 01:02.31 | Iriel | I'm sure there IS a standard |
| 01:02.32 | Shirik | yup |
| 01:02.37 | Shirik | and that's why I... |
| 01:02.43 | Iriel | But i'm also fairly sure you can avoid following it without hurting too badly |
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| 01:02.45 | Shirik | 14(1911:5711:5814) 14(11Shirik14) I've come to the point where I write my applications just expecting either 13 or 10, then skipping until it finds no more 13s or 10s |
| 01:03.29 | Iriel | Guillotine: The wire protocol for IRC has \r\n <crlf> as they refer to it |
| 01:03.40 | Iriel | IRC messages are always lines of characters terminated with a CR-LF (Carriage Return - Line Feed) pair, and these messages shall not exceed 512 characters in length, counting all characters including the trailing CR-LF. Thus, there are 510 characters maximum allowed for the command and its parameters. There is no provision for continuation message lines. See section 7 for more details about current implementations. |
| 01:03.45 | Guillotine | so I HAVE been doing it correctly :) |
| 01:03.48 | Iriel | http://www.irchelp.org/irchelp/rfc/chapter2.html#c2_2 |
| 01:04.02 | Guillotine | yup, thats what I had read a while ago (and why I got used to using it) |
| 01:04.05 | Shirik | freenode doesn't follow that standard :P But that goes back to what Iriel said |
| 01:04.42 | Shirik | also with regards to "crlf as they refer to it" I've always heard it said CRLF |
| 01:04.49 | Shirik | not CRNL, but meh |
| 01:05.02 | Iriel | I've seen it both ways |
| 01:05.10 | Shirik | I blame the south |
| 01:05.12 | MentalPower | Shirik: if freenodes does not follow that standard, then how are we connected to it? |
| 01:05.33 | Shirik | MentalPower: Freenode accepts \r\n as it has to, but it equally accepts \r |
| 01:05.33 | Iriel | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:05.47 | Shirik | As I have already proven when breaking batrick's bot |
| 01:05.51 | Iriel | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:06.11 | Iriel | Is that freenode's issue or his bot's issue? |
| 01:06.27 | Shirik | I wouldn't call it an "issue" (aside from improper sanitization) |
| 01:06.40 | buu | Shirik: Heh, what broke? |
| 01:07.01 | Shirik | print("\rQUIT :Goodbye") didn't go over well |
| 01:07.12 | buu | Haha |
| 01:07.16 | Shirik | That was immediately after he had fixed print("\nQUIT :Goodbye") |
| 01:07.26 | buu | How silly. |
| 01:07.37 | buu | I thought that sort of thing went out of fashion 10 years ago. |
| 01:07.54 | Shirik | Just because it did doesn't give you an excuse to not guard against it :) |
| 01:07.57 | Iriel | I think you can only claim that freenode 'doesn't follow the standard' if it EMITS messages with invalid linet terminators |
| 01:08.45 | Shirik | "IRC messages are always lines of characters terminated with a CR-LF pair" which implies to me that I should be allowed to have a CR or an LF in the middle of my message so long as they aren't next to each other |
| 01:09.08 | Iriel | <Any *non-empty* sequence of octets not including SPACE or NUL or CR or LF, the first of which may not be ':'> |
| 01:09.13 | Iriel | You do need to read the rest of the spec 8-) |
| 01:09.17 | Shirik | bleh |
| 01:09.22 | Shirik | why when I can read the cliff notes? |
| 01:09.57 | Shirik | this is why I like to stay in my realm of embedded systems :) |
| 01:10.09 | Shirik | No worrying about all this other stuff, just deal with my system and what it needs to connect to |
| 01:10.51 | MentalPower | Shirik: the internet is an extension of "and what it needs to connect to" |
| 01:11.09 | Shirik | but in my case, I would have complete control over this |
| 01:11.28 | Shirik | that is, I don't have to deal with a million different potential things coming in, I know exactly what it will e |
| 01:11.29 | Shirik | be* |
| 01:11.35 | MentalPower | what if someone else wrote that other part? |
| 01:11.40 | MentalPower | and its closed source |
| 01:12.04 | Shirik | if someone else wrote that part, we would assume he is in my company and we are in agreement on how it should operate |
| 01:13.31 | MentalPower | but is that always the case? |
| 01:14.15 | MentalPower | you buy the processor with a new architecture from compA, no other docs exist other than what they publish, typos and ommisions are bound to exist |
| 01:15.49 | Shirik | one would argue it should do exactly what their white papers say it does |
| 01:15.58 | Shirik | Anyway, how do I scan the AH now? (Just got AuctioneerAdvanced) |
| 01:16.01 | Shirik | or do you not have to do that anymore |
| 01:16.12 | Cide | probably /auctioneer scan |
| 01:16.18 | Shirik | nm found it |
| 01:16.25 | Shirik | I can't say I agree with that place :/ |
| 01:16.44 | MentalPower | Shirik: theres a play button on the AH frame |
| 01:16.50 | Shirik | yeah I found it |
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| 01:16.55 | Shirik | kinda out of the way |
| 01:17.25 | Shirik | In any case MentalPower, it goes back to what I said originally |
| 01:17.26 | MentalPower | what do you want, a big red "PRESS ME TO SCAN" button covering half the screen? :P |
| 01:17.44 | Shirik | when I have to worry about it, I deal with it in what I would think is the most suitable manner |
| 01:17.56 | Shirik | but in many cases I don't have to worry about that, myself (nor can I in some cases) |
| 01:18.04 | Shirik | MentalPower: No, just kinda placed around all the other buttons |
| 01:18.17 | Shirik | I don't typically look at the top left corner, which is why I didn't see it |
| 01:18.49 | MentalPower | AuctioneerClassic has a Scan button on the lower-left, so that place was taken |
| 01:19.11 | Shirik | you can have both installed at the same time? |
| 01:19.15 | Shirik | I thought they were mutually exclusive |
| 01:20.49 | MentalPower | no, they can be installed simultaneously |
| 01:21.00 | MentalPower | thats why one is called Auc-Advanced and the other just Auctioneer |
| 01:22.31 | Shirik | any benefit to having them both? |
| 01:23.06 | Iriel | You can double your login and logout time? |
| 01:23.21 | Shirik | heh |
| 01:23.52 | kd3 | ooh, that's just what I needed. a longer load screen |
| 01:25.12 | Shirik | ok, back to studying telecomms >.> |
| 01:25.13 | MentalPower | Shirik: you can still use the old data, and old interfaces |
| 01:25.17 | Shirik | (how ironic, huh?) |
| 01:25.20 | MentalPower | thats the only reason |
| 01:25.25 | Shirik | ah ok |
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| 01:25.51 | MentalPower | consider AucClassic a long-term-support version |
| 01:26.04 | MentalPower | no new features, but it will keep working for a few patches still |
| 01:26.09 | alestane | Okay, I have a slightly weird taint issue. |
| 01:26.31 | Shirik | console taintLog 2! |
| 01:26.36 | alestane | I use an addon that adds quest levels to the titles in the standard quest log. |
| 01:26.59 | alestane | It's tainting PETACTIONBAR_YPOS and CONTAINER_OFFSET_X. |
| 01:28.13 | Cide | GetQuestLogTitle -> quest log stuff -> quest log positioning stuff -> positioning stuff? :/ |
| 01:28.23 | alestane | Partly I think that's because replacing the entire QuestLog_Update function is probably overkill for such a function. |
| 01:28.30 | Cide | heh |
| 01:28.35 | Cide | you can just hook GetQuestLogTitle |
| 01:28.40 | alestane | But yes, the UIPanels system is passing the taint to some global variables. |
| 01:29.09 | alestane | Does anyone know an addon that does this safely? Cide? CT_Core? |
| 01:29.16 | Cide | CT_Core does it |
| 01:29.21 | Cide | and doesn't taint that afaik |
| 01:30.37 | alestane | It's called Bunny Quest Levels if anyone cares...I got it because it was the only function from CT_Core that I actually used. But it hasn't been updated in forever and is apparently not very tidy. |
| 01:33.01 | Cide | just copy&paste the code from CT_Core |
| 01:33.29 | Cide | http://wow.pastey.net/77644 |
| 01:33.38 | Cide | slightly improved from the version that's live |
| 01:35.46 | alestane | I'm trying to figure out how I can do it in a "future-proof" fashion, and so far I'm either creatng garbage or calling the original twice. |
| 01:36.15 | Cide | define future-proof |
| 01:36.34 | alestane | If they add more returns at the end. |
| 01:36.34 | Cide | i.e. return all of the return values? |
| 01:37.10 | Cide | just add a wrapper function |
| 01:37.34 | Cide | function GetQuestLogTitle(...) return wrapperFunction(GetQuestLogTitle(...)) end |
| 01:37.49 | alestane | Is there a trick that resembles {funcCal()} but goes into an existing table? |
| 01:38.03 | Cide | function wrapperFunction(title, level, tag, ...) blah blah blah, alter title, level and tag... return title, level, tag, ...; end |
| 01:38.46 | alestane | I see what you're saying. |
| 01:39.06 | AnduinLothar | KarlThePagan: rofl |
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| 01:43.08 | alestane | nosequitor: |
| 01:43.27 | alestane | ckknight: Any thoughts on adding a cartographer overlay to the zone map? |
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| 01:44.23 | alestane | My SO and I think that would be teh win. |
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| 01:47.26 | alestane | Cide: Like so? http://wowi.pastey.net/77645 |
| 01:48.17 | Cide | alestane: return modifyTitle(oldGetQuestLogTitle(...)) |
| 01:48.21 | Cide | but otherwise something like that, yes |
| 01:48.32 | alestane | Whoops. |
| 01:48.53 | alestane | Well, I would have figured that one out in a hurry. |
| 01:49.56 | alestane | So just that in a .lua file should do it, yes? |
| 01:50.24 | Cide | yup |
| 01:50.30 | sag_ich_nicht | AnduinLothar care to take a look at the engbags addon? it's doing something to fluidframes that causes fluidframes to taint |
| 01:51.13 | AnduinLothar | eh |
| 01:51.27 | alestane | That's easy enough. I often think "well what they're asking for only needs three lines of .lua," and post it...to be greeted with cries of "How do I make that work?" |
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| 02:03.04 | kd3 | huzzah, we're finally getting info on the combat log revamp |
| 02:03.21 | sag_ich_nicht | what |
| 02:03.22 | sag_ich_nicht | link |
| 02:03.23 | sag_ich_nicht | giev |
| 02:03.27 | kd3 | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=2968233433&sid=1 |
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| 02:06.31 | sag_ich_nicht | 'bout time |
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| 02:16.08 | Kelfarr | check out this rogues spec http://www.wowarmory.com/character-talents.xml?r=Terenas&n=Anthiela |
| 02:17.53 | bleeter | kd3: I thought that was announced @ Blizzcon |
| 02:18.09 | kd3 | it was, but we're just now finally getting info and code |
| 02:18.10 | bleeter | nonetheless, I /cheer @ Iriel |
| 02:18.37 | Iriel | Cheer at slouken, i'm just the message re-packager |
| 02:21.35 | alestane | Kelfarr: I'm guessing PvP/solo grinder, and the three points in assassination are either from not knowing what spec she wanted and not bothering to respec, or having them left over after she got everything she knew she wanted. |
| 02:25.00 | Kelfarr | Yes but did you see the weapon specialization points |
| 02:25.09 | Kelfarr | points in each of them |
| 02:26.20 | alestane | One mace, one sword...I was going to talk about that but mix-and-match dual wield could work. |
| 02:26.48 | alestane | Unless off-hand weapons can't talent proc. |
| 02:27.30 | alestane | My rogue is assassination/subtlety and my warrior is fury over arms, so I've never tested the spec talents with dual-wielding. |
| 02:30.07 | alestane | Of course she's using one sword and one dagger... |
| 02:30.32 | alestane | 6097 HKs, that explains the combat-heavy spec. |
| 02:33.30 | Wobwork | hehe the mace sword |
| 02:33.42 | Wobwork | taking advantage of the human racial |
| 02:33.53 | Wobwork | I considered doing that |
| 02:34.04 | Wobwork | for the +10 to expertise =P |
| 02:34.24 | Mike-N-Go | How is it determined how much one unit of durability costs in copper on an item? |
| 02:35.32 | bleeter | Iriel: he's being paid to be cheered at tho ;) |
| 02:35.58 | Shirik | hehe |
| 02:36.06 | Shirik | you know your telecomms book is out of date when it says something like this: |
| 02:36.37 | Shirik | "Optical Fiber: There has been considerable research relating to this alternative over the years, but the expense of the optical fiber taps and the availability of better alternatives have resulted in the demise of this option as well" |
| 02:36.53 | cogwheel | demise |
| 02:37.04 | kd3 | good grief... is that from the 80s? |
| 02:37.10 | cogwheel | I'd like some demise please! |
| 02:37.35 | Shirik | interestingly enough |
| 02:37.39 | Shirik | it says copyright 2007 o.o |
| 02:37.47 | kd3 | WTF!? |
| 02:38.08 | Shirik | let me look up the ISBN |
| 02:38.30 | Shirik | http://isbndb.com/d/book/data_and_computer_communications_a13.html |
| 02:38.41 | Shirik | says 2006-08-02 |
| 02:40.31 | kergoth | hmm, any pvp'ing rogues around? wondering how pvp vs pve affects attribute importance when choosing gear. just how important is sta comapred to AP? is it worth losing, say, 40-50ap, to gain 300hp? i'm a nub when it comes to pvp |
| 02:40.42 | bleeter | that's the (C) for the 8th edition ;) |
| 02:41.46 | kd3 | how much HP do you have when you're pvping normally? |
| 02:42.14 | kergoth | i have jack for pvp gear, and only like 8k health unbuffed normally |
| 02:42.20 | buu | Haha |
| 02:42.20 | Shirik | ow |
| 02:42.23 | kergoth | :) |
| 02:42.26 | Shirik | my priest has more than that in pvp gear :P |
| 02:42.31 | kergoth | hehe |
| 02:42.35 | buu | kergoth: You should aim for about 10k hp and 300+ res before anything else. |
| 02:42.47 | kd3 | hell, I've got more hp than that on my mage in raid gear |
| 02:42.52 | Wobwork | hehe |
| 02:43.01 | Wobwork | I'm having so much fun in bg with zero res |
| 02:43.02 | kergoth | i know nothing about pvp, just thinking about all that season 1 gear from honor, might be about time to start acquiring some gear for it |
| 02:43.10 | kergoth | (once s3 hits anyway) |
| 02:44.24 | kergoth | 10k hp, 300+res.. okay, thanks. will work on it :) |
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| 03:02.00 | cogwheel | I think this is my sentence of the day: "The law of the land should always be taken for granted in these kinds of conversations lest they degrade into highly verbose tirades of pedantry. " |
| 03:02.30 | Antiarc | It's a good one, and I tend to agree! |
| 03:03.08 | Wobwork | how does the law of the land apply? |
| 03:03.22 | Wobwork | or really, what -is- the law of the land? |
| 03:04.25 | a-stray-cat | the law of the land is i'm right, you're wrong unless you agree with me. |
| 03:04.45 | Wobwork | and then we're both wrong? |
| 03:05.02 | a-stray-cat | I don't know. |
| 03:05.06 | a-stray-cat | and that's the correct answer. |
| 03:05.22 | Wobwork | no no, the correct answer is "African, or European?" |
| 03:05.41 | Shirik | that's a question... |
| 03:05.51 | a-stray-cat | you can answer a question with a question. |
| 03:06.14 | Shirik | but that leaves another question to be answered |
| 03:06.27 | Wobwork | so? |
| 03:06.35 | Shirik | so where does the chain end |
| 03:06.41 | Shirik | or do we have an infinite number of questions? |
| 03:06.42 | Wobwork | why should it? |
| 03:06.45 | Wobwork | why not? |
| 03:06.56 | Wobwork | What happens when we stop asking questions? |
| 03:06.56 | cogwheel | indee,d why not? |
| 03:07.07 | Shirik | Wobwork: who knows? |
| 03:07.07 | cogwheel | (c wut i did ther?) |
| 03:07.18 | Wobwork | icwhutudidthar? |
| 03:07.32 | a-stray-cat | maybe? |
| 03:07.58 | cogwheel | Wobwork: thread where i came up with it: http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=2971962952&postId=29492093446&sid=1#51 |
| 03:09.57 | Wobwork | hehe |
| 03:10.01 | Wobwork | Cairenn's a MAN |
| 03:10.08 | Cairenn | say what? |
| 03:10.21 | Wobwork | reply 47 |
| 03:10.24 | Wobwork | and 48 =) |
| 03:10.55 | Shirik | Wobwork: I'm fairly certain they were referring to the "lawyer" |
| 03:11.09 | Wobwork | oh |
| 03:11.10 | Cairenn | no no - the OP "obviously means ... |
| 03:11.13 | Wobwork | hehe =) |
| 03:11.48 | Shirik | so apparently I have a 3 hour overlay in atlanta tomorrow |
| 03:11.50 | Shirik | fun times.... |
| 03:14.44 | kd3 | hartsfield's an interesting airport to be stuck in |
| 03:15.23 | Shirik | ~weather KATL |
| 03:15.36 | Shirik | I didn't know the real name :P |
| 03:15.47 | |Jelly| | ~weather kdfw |
| 03:15.49 | Shirik | At least they have wireless, I know that |
| 03:15.52 | |Jelly| | eww |
| 03:16.07 | kd3 | if you're lucky, you'll land on the new 5th runway on top of I-285 |
| 03:16.48 | Wobwork | huh Shrig's last post on the "Addon pirating" thread? |
| 03:16.49 | Wobwork | whut? |
| 03:17.11 | Wobwork | kd3: He'd have to jumphack the terrain though |
| 03:17.58 | |Jelly| | Shrig's a fucking waste of oxygen. |
| 03:22.07 | Shirik | kd3: 5th runway? |
| 03:22.15 | Shirik | I just looked up KATL their info only shows 4 runways |
| 03:22.16 | Wobwork | it's the hidden one |
| 03:22.27 | Shirik | 26/08 and 27/09 |
| 03:22.27 | Wobwork | that you can only get to by terrain hacks |
| 03:22.35 | kd3 | gmaps is out of date, but it's up on wikimapia |
| 03:22.36 | kd3 | http://wikimapia.org/#lat=33.645492&lon=-84.415684&z=13&l=0&m=h&v=2 |
| 03:22.57 | kd3 | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Katl-diagram.png |
| 03:23.24 | bleeter | ahaaa! it was alexanderyoshi who got the event driven combat log in :) |
| 03:24.12 | Shirik | O |
| 03:24.16 | Shirik | I'm going to assume that's not built yet |
| 03:24.25 | kd3 | it's built, google is way out of date |
| 03:24.33 | Shirik | huh. |
| 03:24.38 | Shirik | my school needs to update their crap |
| 03:24.40 | kd3 | I landed on it as part of my trip to blizzcon back in august |
| 03:24.46 | kd3 | it's been operational for a year now |
| 03:25.05 | MentalPower | bleeter: the former Cosmos lead, woot! |
| 03:25.07 | alestane | Got the quest log thing working, no sign of taint. |
| 03:25.58 | kd3 | it's rather awe-inspiring to drive on the interstate under the bridge a fucking plane lands on top of you |
| 03:26.11 | Shirik | hehe |
| 03:26.27 | alestane | Thanks for the help...er, he left. Thanks anyway Cide. |
| 03:26.32 | Wobwork | kd3: Have you ever flown into Hong Kong? |
| 03:26.35 | Shirik | I deal with it every day, though not really landing on top of... |
| 03:26.44 | Shirik | but given my school is part of the airport, kinda used to it :P |
| 03:26.53 | kd3 | no. farthest west I've gone is LA |
| 03:26.59 | bleeter | MentalPower: aye |
| 03:27.04 | Wobwork | kd3: being able to look into peoples apartments from the plane as it lands is... interesting =P |
| 03:27.18 | Antiarc | <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 Slouken |
| 03:27.21 | Antiarc | "You'll find that the GUID decodes into the type of creature, which can then be matched against data in the WDB cache ... not that anyone would ever try to decode that data." |
| 03:27.22 | Shirik | |Jelly|: Why do you say that? |
| 03:27.35 | Shirik | rofl Antiarc |
| 03:27.41 | a-stray-cat | :O |
| 03:27.49 | a-stray-cat | {excitement} |
| 03:28.01 | bleeter | Antiarc: yeah I lold lots when I say that too |
| 03:28.05 | bleeter | saw |
| 03:28.12 | Wobwork | aha |
| 03:28.13 | |Jelly| | Because it's true. |
| 03:28.15 | Wobwork | The truth is out |
| 03:28.18 | bleeter | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=2968233433&postId=30552108630&sid=1#22 |
| 03:28.23 | Wobwork | bleeter is actually Slouken in disguise |
| 03:28.29 | bleeter | Wobwork: sssh |
| 03:28.35 | Wobwork | SOCKPUPPET |
| 03:28.38 | bleeter | it's all in the beard ;) |
| 03:28.52 | Shirik | Cidan: ping? |
| 03:29.00 | kd3 | bleeter; he edited out his response to your question |
| 03:29.03 | a-stray-cat | sockpuppet, what? >.> |
| 03:29.29 | MentalPower | kd3: what did it say before the edit? |
| 03:29.57 | kd3 | "Sure ;)" I think. lemme check, pretty sure wowblues caught it before the edit |
| 03:29.57 | bleeter | kd3: yeah, what mp asked |
| 03:30.31 | bleeter | nope, they didn't |
| 03:30.55 | cogwheel | he also edited the line about alexanderyoshi |
| 03:31.14 | cogwheel | said something more like "he was the one pressuring us to let him do it" |
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| 03:32.16 | bleeter | I recall even combat log being one of the 1st questions I ever asked in this #, and was stunned that it was event driven |
| 03:32.23 | bleeter | er.. s/even/event/ |
| 03:32.33 | bleeter | err. wasn't |
| 03:32.36 | bleeter | ~fail bleeter |
| 03:32.37 | purl | bleeter: Fail. |
| 03:32.40 | bleeter | aye |
| 03:33.00 | cogwheel | that was a spectacular failure |
| 03:33.04 | cogwheel | quite amusing, imo |
| 03:33.39 | bleeter | I blame the heat and the bushfire smoke |
| 03:33.54 | Wobwork | hm |
| 03:38.28 | kd3 | oh wow. never expected an exploit vector from FLAC... |
| 03:38.36 | kd3 | http://it.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=07/11/20/0137240 |
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| 03:59.03 | Thunder_Child | i hate...things |
| 04:03.11 | Thunder_Child | woo hoo, benders big score |
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| 04:13.04 | JoshBorke | so, i have an 8 page paper i've not really started on due tomorrow that is worth about 25% of my final grade for a class. after looking at my transcript i can afford to get a C in the class and still maintain my GPA |
| 04:13.12 | JoshBorke | my motivation to write the paper just went to 0 |
| 04:13.49 | Thunder_Child | JoshBorke, heh i also have an 8 page paper due tomorrow |
| 04:14.00 | JoshBorke | no wai! |
| 04:14.07 | Thunder_Child | uhhh....yes |
| 04:14.11 | Thunder_Child | i'm working on it now |
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| 04:14.24 | Thunder_Child | and i'l like 1/2 - 1 page short |
| 04:14.34 | JoshBorke | i'm currently 7 pages short |
| 04:15.35 | JoshBorke | what's your paper on? |
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| 04:23.50 | Thunder_Child | JoshBorke: Higgs Boson |
| 04:24.11 | MentalPower | Thunder_Child: you serious? |
| 04:24.14 | JoshBorke | huh |
| 04:24.16 | Thunder_Child | yes |
| 04:24.30 | MentalPower | physics major? |
| 04:24.45 | Thunder_Child | math actually, but this is for english class |
| 04:24.53 | MentalPower | undergrad, masters or PhD? |
| 04:24.56 | MentalPower | ah, gotcha |
| 04:25.12 | Thunder_Child | undergrad atm, though i will prolly have physics as a minor |
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| 04:27.07 | Thunder_Child | the iritating thing is that this is due tomorrow, on thursday a cousin of mine is coming in that happens to be a particle physics student working on his Masters/PhD combo @ harvard |
| 04:27.48 | MentalPower | can't you call him? |
| 04:28.22 | Thunder_Child | he is way busy, school + he is getting married soon...as a matter of fact one of the reasons he will be in town is for an engagement party |
| 04:30.12 | JoshBorke | mine most definitely seems mundane compared to that |
| 04:30.29 | JoshBorke | but regardless, i still have 0 motivation, did i mention i only need a C to graduate/ |
| 04:30.29 | art3mis | boondocks > * |
| 04:30.34 | cogwheel | has anyone tested the [pet] conditional with possession? |
| 04:31.04 | Thunder_Child | art3mis boondocks > * x 0 |
| 04:31.52 | art3mis | so ~1 ? |
| 04:31.54 | art3mis | ;) |
| 04:32.09 | Thunder_Child | i was going for 0... but 1 works for me |
| 04:32.23 | Kelfarr | 10101001? |
| 04:32.32 | Wobwork | ps Cog, love the license plate =P |
| 04:32.41 | art3mis | 160? |
| 04:32.42 | cogwheel | =) |
| 04:32.49 | art3mis | i suppose that its better than 160 |
| 04:33.12 | art3mis | wait thats wrong |
| 04:33.41 | art3mis | 163 |
| 04:34.19 | Wobwork | has anyone heard anything about the CursorHasItem bug for guildbanks? |
| 04:34.23 | art3mis | cog you need to post it in the ui forum ;) only replace your wow screen with it but leave you ui imposed |
| 04:34.44 | art3mis | and put a nameplate over it ;P |
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| 04:35.06 | art3mis | hey guill |
| 04:35.23 | Thunder_Child | i hate you Guillotine |
| 04:35.25 | cogwheel | art3mis: oooh... I could photoshop it onto the back of my mechachicken! |
| 04:35.30 | art3mis | hahahaha |
| 04:35.32 | art3mis | PERFECT! |
| 04:35.32 | Guillotine | TC: huh? |
| 04:35.42 | Guillotine | art3mis: hey :) |
| 04:35.48 | Thunder_Child | Guillotine: i didnt think it was that hard to understand |
| 04:35.50 | cogwheel | oh man i HAVE to do that now... |
| 04:35.57 | art3mis | ya know what you shuold do in support of the wowace community? |
| 04:36.02 | art3mis | that would be REALLY funny? |
| 04:36.04 | Thunder_Child | i hate you is fairly straightforward |
| 04:36.23 | art3mis | add a ui.wow section to curse |
| 04:36.28 | art3mis | and hardlink to all thier addons ;P |
| 04:36.33 | Guillotine | rofl |
| 04:36.37 | art3mis | so it uses thier BW without thier revenue |
| 04:36.41 | Guillotine | lol |
| 04:36.44 | Wobwork | win =) |
| 04:37.06 | Thunder_Child | http://gizmodo.com/gadgets/wow%2C-just-wow/kewpie-bondage-cellphone-charms-give-us-utterly-horrific-nightmares-324656.php |
| 04:37.08 | art3mis | disclaimer: It's on the internet to it's public domain, I figured I'd help them out |
| 04:37.16 | art3mis | to == so |
| 04:37.22 | Guillotine | why, is ui.wow hosting addons without permission of authors? |
| 04:37.22 | Wobwork | You could say "I spoke to Rushter, but as he wasn't in the room, I didn't yell too loudly" |
| 04:37.53 | bleeter | Guillotine: because 'we can', I think is their excuse |
| 04:38.02 | art3mis | heh i drew a stick figure with his name on it and he seemed to think it was a great idea ;P |
| 04:38.04 | Guillotine | but they ARE doing it? |
| 04:38.09 | bleeter | actually, no |
| 04:38.17 | bleeter | 'for their own good' (ie, the author's good) |
| 04:38.20 | art3mis | he removed the wowace link? |
| 04:38.23 | bleeter | i think was the reason |
| 04:38.26 | art3mis | yup |
| 04:38.30 | art3mis | "for thier own good" |
| 04:38.40 | art3mis | to help get thier addon out to more people |
| 04:38.46 | art3mis | its perfect |
| 04:38.58 | art3mis | and you've got the boredom and site to do it ;P |
| 04:39.05 | art3mis | its perfect |
| 04:39.33 | art3mis | if you've been asked not to, NOTHING supports outright theft |
| 04:39.37 | art3mis | and im a pirate dammit |
| 04:39.40 | art3mis | ;) |
| 04:39.47 | bleeter | there was a suggestion to mirror their website, removing all ads, and telling them it was for their own good ;) |
| 04:39.48 | Guillotine | well, if they are hosting them without permission and refuse to remove it, class action lawsuit imho |
| 04:40.01 | Guillotine | lol |
| 04:40.01 | art3mis | if the creators of say adobe acrobat emailed me and said he dont do that, i prolly wouldnt ;P |
| 04:40.03 | Wobwork | yarr spam? |
| 04:40.09 | Thunder_Child | http://gizmodo.com/gadgets/cars/nissans-gt+r-data+dense-dashboard-explained-324672.php |
| 04:40.20 | art3mis | bleeter: that was me earlier today too ;P |
| 04:40.34 | art3mis | i think curse doing it would be soooooo funny though |
| 04:40.50 | art3mis | cairenn wouldnt cuz shes a girl and too nice |
| 04:41.03 | Guillotine | I agree, but us they might actually sue even if its just to give bad press :P |
| 04:41.06 | art3mis | and im far to lethargic |
| 04:41.07 | Guillotine | but it would be funny |
| 04:41.13 | art3mis | bad press? |
| 04:41.15 | art3mis | bahahaha |
| 04:41.18 | art3mis | you'd be infamous |
| 04:41.36 | art3mis | check my host and as if there is such a thing as bad press ;) |
| 04:41.39 | art3mis | ask |
| 04:41.51 | Guillotine | they could put a spin on it to make us seem like the bad ones to the average user I'm sure :P Even if the authors know what really happened |
| 04:42.45 | art3mis | make a flash intro with screen shots of him saying it was for thier own good ;P |
| 04:43.09 | Guillotine | now you know what would be the best? Find a way to use injection to remove the ads from their actual site :P |
| 04:43.32 | art3mis | By Special Demand: Rushter presents UI-Wow as hosted by Curse Gaming, because it's ebtter for us! |
| 04:43.43 | art3mis | adblock works |
| 04:43.45 | Guillotine | rofl |
| 04:43.58 | art3mis | i just think it would be insanely funny to just grind up thier BW from hardlinks |
| 04:44.17 | Guillotine | so do it :P |
| 04:44.20 | bleeter | which'd be for their own good |
| 04:44.22 | art3mis | imagine YOUR userbase leeching thier links and them making nothing from it |
| 04:44.24 | bleeter | stress testing their network |
| 04:44.25 | Guillotine | make a wowace-esque version of ui.wow |
| 04:44.30 | Guillotine | pure text |
| 04:44.33 | Guillotine | for their own good |
| 04:44.43 | art3mis | i dont have the hits for wow that you do |
| 04:44.49 | art3mis | which is why i say you do it ;P |
| 04:45.15 | art3mis | dammit i left my XP disc at work |
| 04:45.41 | art3mis | so much for fixing my laptop to quad boot xp, leopard, tiger and ubuntu |
| 04:46.22 | Wobwork | "By our powers combined..." |
| 04:46.35 | art3mis | its pretty rad runing osx-esque xp thanks to object dock AND osx 10.5 o the same pc |
| 04:46.35 | Wobwork | "XP: wait wait...*pantpantpant* not so fast!" |
| 04:46.56 | art3mis | hahah |
| 04:47.08 | art3mis | Captain DriveSpace ? |
| 04:47.19 | art3mis | do linux after |
| 04:47.27 | art3mis | heh |
| 04:47.33 | art3mis | actually you need grub for efi support |
| 04:47.34 | bleeter | why after? |
| 04:47.39 | art3mis | assuming you've got a c2d |
| 04:47.47 | art3mis | it doesnt much matter actually |
| 04:47.59 | art3mis | darwin and grub play nice together |
| 04:48.13 | art3mis | xp always has to be put on first though |
| 04:49.06 | art3mis | in case you didnt know |
| 04:50.24 | kd3 | <3 the paradox that is my computer setup |
| 04:50.58 | kd3 | I've now got 1.8TB of space waiting to be used (of which I'm currently using ~700GB or so), yet I can't freaking download anything in order to use said space |
| 04:51.44 | art3mis | laugh |
| 04:52.05 | Shirik | wait wait let me guess |
| 04:52.08 | a-stray-cat | lua> local i = {}; i:insert(1); print(i); |
| 04:52.08 | lua_bot | a-stray-cat: [string "local i = {}; i:insert(1); print(i);"]:1: attempt to call method 'insert' (a nil value) |
| 04:52.16 | a-stray-cat | aw |
| 04:52.29 | Shirik | you used RAID0 to pull a bunch of hard drives together, saying to yourself "a failure will never happen to me" |
| 04:52.30 | Shirik | right? |
| 04:52.34 | Shirik | a-stray-cat: table.insert |
| 04:52.42 | kd3 | negative. raid5 |
| 04:52.48 | Shirik | if you really want to do that, uh... setmetatable(i, {__index = table}) |
| 04:52.56 | kd3 | I've lost too much data to not raid my data |
| 04:53.03 | Shirik | kd3: I've lost my data several times |
| 04:53.06 | Shirik | and I still use RAID 0 |
| 04:53.13 | a-stray-cat | Shirik: yea, i know, i just wanted to see if you could do that though |
| 04:53.17 | Shirik | "It won't happen again..." |
| 04:53.18 | Shirik | yup |
| 04:53.33 | kd3 | you must've missed the hard drive cryogenics stunt I pulled a few days ago, then |
| 04:53.48 | Shirik | Cidan will tell you stories of how I asked him to quickly set up a secure FTP server that I could transmit stuff to |
| 04:53.53 | Shirik | just in time for my hard drive to fail |
| 04:55.59 | Kelfarr | look at the name at the bottom of omen where it says new version then look at the person in the threat meter http://uploader.ws/upload/200711/WoWScrnShot_111907_205015.jpg |
| 04:58.44 | MentalPower | kd3: did you bathe your HDs in Liquid N2? |
| 04:59.02 | kd3 | not quite that cold. just tossed it in the freezer for a while |
| 04:59.15 | MentalPower | why? |
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| 04:59.52 | kd3 | it's a black magic trick to bring certain types of broken HDDs back to life for long enough to copy data off of them |
| 05:00.43 | kd3 | black, black magic. I really don't like doing it. |
| 05:01.09 | Wobwork | meh |
| 05:01.11 | dreamss | lol common trick about admins |
| 05:01.13 | Wobwork | if the drive is goign to fail |
| 05:01.16 | Wobwork | why not? |
| 05:02.05 | Wobwork | Kelfarr: and? |
| 05:03.08 | art3mis | wow kel |
| 05:03.17 | art3mis | you're so uber you can generate threat across servers |
| 05:03.47 | JoshBorke | i don't get it |
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| 05:04.53 | Kelfarr | I dunno if that guy who is in my group made that version or something |
| 05:05.42 | Wobwork | I still don't get it |
| 05:06.09 | JoshBorke | his tps is low? |
| 05:07.01 | Wobwork | Kelfarr: that message just means that that person has a more recent version of Threat |
| 05:07.11 | Wobwork | or Omen |
| 05:07.58 | Kelfarr | oh ok |
| 05:08.14 | Thunder_Child | i love BM with a pally tank |
| 05:08.52 | Thunder_Child | the pally can gather up as much of the instance as thier system can handle, then BAM AOE ftw |
| 05:12.20 | Kelfarr | yeah |
| 05:12.25 | Kelfarr | he is a great tank |
| 05:12.27 | Kelfarr | and the healer is amazing |
| 05:12.56 | Kelfarr | going to finally get my kara key |
| 05:15.45 | Shirik | anyone know a place I can get a list of the possible commands for SetBinding() ? |
| 05:16.40 | MentalPower | !api SetBinding |
| 05:16.41 | ThraeBot | MentalPower: -- Set the default behavior for the right mouse button SetBinding("BUTTON2","TURNORACTION"); -- http://www.wowwiki.com/API_SetBinding |
| 05:17.03 | MentalPower | Shirik: ^^^^ |
| 05:17.05 | Shirik | ok, someone needs to read my question better -_- |
| 05:17.36 | Shirik | that is definitely the page I'm already looking at, I'm trying to find the possible 2nd argument |
| 05:17.52 | Shirik | but thanks :P |
| 05:18.50 | Shirik | how aobut this |
| 05:18.57 | Shirik | is there a console command to show/hide helm? |
| 05:19.00 | Shirik | or something else? |
| 05:19.38 | Shirik | got it nm :P |
| 05:20.56 | MentalPower | if you found it, add it to the setbinding API page |
| 05:21.57 | cog|away | i fail at photo editing... can someone please erase everything outside the license plate border? http://home.comcast.net/~m_orlando/plate.png |
| 05:22.24 | cog|away | or at least tell me the easiest way to do it in gimp or paint.net |
| 05:22.33 | cog|away | i luv u long time |
| 05:24.22 | MentalPower | do you want the "my other ride is a..." part? |
| 05:24.27 | cog|away | yep :) |
| 05:25.08 | MentalPower | gimme a sec then |
| 05:25.28 | cog|away | heh... magic wand not doing it for ya? ;) |
| 05:25.31 | MentalPower | I only use PS, haven't used gimp in years, and don't really know much about paint.net |
| 05:26.17 | cog|away | I can't find a polygon selector ... that would make it very easy |
| 05:27.00 | cog|away | oh and transparent would be ideal :) |
| 05:27.02 | MentalPower | BTW, why is it called plate.png.jpeg? |
| 05:27.06 | cog|away | O.o |
| 05:27.36 | MentalPower | well, its plate.png, but its a jpeg |
| 05:29.18 | Thunder_Child | cog|away, how do you want it delivered? |
| 05:29.20 | cog|away | i tried to save it as png |
| 05:29.42 | cog|away | Thunder_Child: print it on teh back of an envelope and enclose $10,000 in cash |
| 05:29.57 | MentalPower | cog|away: in your dreams :P |
| 05:29.57 | Thunder_Child | cog|away, cute |
| 05:30.03 | Thunder_Child | seriously? |
| 05:30.12 | Thunder_Child | it's done |
| 05:30.16 | Thunder_Child | how would you like it |
| 05:30.32 | Thunder_Child | s/it/to receive it/ |
| 05:30.55 | cog|away | pm |
| 05:31.44 | Thunder_Child | got it..sending |
| 05:31.54 | Thunder_Child | sent |
| 05:32.05 | cog|away | MentalPower: the funny thing is that i suspected it had done that and did everything i knew how to check... |
| 05:32.16 | Thunder_Child | if its not exacting enough let me know |
| 05:32.29 | cog|away | good enough |
| 05:32.34 | cog|away | it's going to be a great deal smaller |
| 05:32.36 | cog|away | ty |
| 05:32.47 | Thunder_Child | welcome, you might want to clean up the edges a bit |
| 05:36.12 | kd3 | http://spyglass-server.com/pub/plate2.png |
| 05:36.21 | kd3 | didn't do a good job smoothing out the edges, but meh |
| 05:40.24 | Fin | mikma: loving the neon |
| 05:40.26 | Fin | nice one! |
| 05:41.55 | Kelfarr | wtf I did 1 AV today and have 1440 honor |
| 05:41.58 | Kelfarr | including the daily |
| 05:42.00 | Kelfarr | so 1000 honor |
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| 05:48.11 | mikma | Fin: <3 |
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| 05:54.13 | MentalPower | lua> local t, av = {1,1,2,3,3,3,3,4,5,5,5,6,7,8,9,10}, 0 for k,v in ipairs(t) do av = (av*2 + v)/3 end print(av) |
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| 05:55.57 | kd3 | heh, where are the mods? general's full of ascii |
| 05:58.05 | art3mis | http://www.gothi.ca/Stuff/plate.png |
| 05:58.37 | art3mis | heh boredom and my scrollock on! |
| 05:58.39 | JoshBorke | what is GNMRGN? |
| 05:58.43 | art3mis | gnomer |
| 05:58.47 | Olison | lol art3mis |
| 05:58.50 | JoshBorke | lol |
| 05:59.06 | art3mis | he needs to get cog shaped bolts though ;) |
| 06:02.31 | Thunder_Child | you know, if you are going to make a movie about fantastical stuff, at least make the humans respond/act naturally |
| 06:03.32 | Wobwork | which movie? |
| 06:03.41 | Wobwork | Passion of Christ? |
| 06:03.46 | JoshBorke | beowulf? |
| 06:03.48 | Thunder_Child | D-WAr |
| 06:03.56 | Thunder_Child | atm |
| 06:04.03 | Wobwork | whut? |
| 06:04.12 | JoshBorke | whu? |
| 06:04.14 | Thunder_Child | d-war = Dragon wars |
| 06:04.33 | Wobwork | sounds promising alraedy =p |
| 06:04.52 | Thunder_Child | http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0372873/ |
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| 06:12.25 | cog|away | http://home.comcast.net/~m_orlando/4GNMRGN.jpg |
| 06:12.44 | MentalPower | OMG... |
| 06:13.11 | MentalPower | cogwheel: you should *so* put that on the WoW forums, or even the screenshot thingy |
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| 06:13.46 | a-stray-cat | anyone know of a mod that dings when someone says your name in chat? |
| 06:14.05 | JoshBorke | a-stray-cat: prat |
| 06:14.21 | Thunder_Child | cogwheel, you should dim the brightness of the plate a bit |
| 06:14.30 | cogwheel | i did... |
| 06:14.36 | cogwheel | i think i'll do a bit more tweaking |
| 06:16.01 | a-stray-cat | JoshBorke: thankie, i didnt know prat could do that. |
| 06:16.15 | JoshBorke | a-stray-cat: prat can do everything apparently |
| 06:16.26 | a-stray-cat | does it cure cancer? |
| 06:16.43 | JoshBorke | a-stray-cat: i've heard rumors but the fda is starting up an investigation |
| 06:16.45 | JoshBorke | you know how that goes |
| 06:25.39 | art3mis | cogwheel: you need thqat pic for EVERY UI shot ever |
| 06:25.52 | art3mis | hell im gonna steal it and use it for EVERY ui i make too |
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| 06:26.13 | cogwheel | i'm making a slightly better one |
| 06:26.26 | art3mis | as soon as someone makes me a theme swapper of course ;) |
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| 06:28.11 | Thunder_Child | heh, i'm watching a blade w/o snipes |
| 06:28.56 | art3mis | the tv show? |
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| 06:29.39 | Cairenn | so, it was a good monday, lots of fun drama! |
| 06:29.42 | Thunder_Child | no |
| 06:30.16 | Tem | okay |
| 06:30.17 | Tem | so |
| 06:30.20 | Tem | website names |
| 06:30.21 | cogwheel | http://home.comcast.net/~m_orlando/final.jpg |
| 06:30.24 | Tem | thenamespace.com |
| 06:30.30 | Tem | or projectnamespace.com |
| 06:30.33 | Tem | ? |
| 06:30.50 | Thunder_Child | art3mis, i guess it is |
| 06:30.59 | Thunder_Child | art3mis, i wasnt even aware of it |
| 06:32.48 | Tem | no opinions? |
| 06:33.07 | cogwheel | the is shorter |
| 06:33.15 | Tem | actually, screw you guys. they already bought it |
| 06:33.23 | Cairenn | cogwheel: rofl |
| 06:33.27 | Cairenn | Tem:? |
| 06:34.27 | JoshBorke | tem: thenamespace |
| 06:34.29 | JoshBorke | it's shorter |
| 06:34.43 | Tem | well damnit |
| 06:34.45 | Tem | you guys are too late |
| 06:34.50 | Tem | we just bought the other |
| 06:34.54 | JoshBorke | you should just ask sooner |
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| 06:57.36 | Rayne | One of these days im just going to quote someones UI on the boards and go "YOUR UI IS BAD AND YOU SHOULD FEEL BAD" |
| 06:57.56 | Thunder_Child | it's not really as exciting as you may think |
| 06:58.17 | Rayne | It made me giggle a littl |
| 06:58.41 | Rayne | like the 'Teehee' giggle, not a full cover your mouth like a girl giggle. |
| 07:02.31 | Corrodias | i still need to think of a decent name for my gnome |
| 07:02.42 | Corrodias | i wa so busy at work today that i didn't get a chance to think about it |
| 07:02.57 | cogwheel | Spazzlefink |
| 07:03.14 | Thunder_Child | is there an 2.4 change request list? |
| 07:03.20 | Corrodias | female |
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| 07:03.27 | Corrodias | i want something cute, perhaps playful or silly |
| 07:03.42 | Corrodias | a "word name" would be nice, but i can't think of a good one that isn't taken |
| 07:03.55 | cogwheel | Thunder_Child: http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=101150523 in general. you can talk about existing announcements in the 2.4 thread |
| 07:04.12 | Thunder_Child | "Danceswithwhips" |
| 07:04.15 | Thunder_Child | thanks cogwheel |
| 07:04.36 | cogwheel | i try to grab slouken's attention with that thread whenever a new upcoming thread is stickied |
| 07:04.44 | cogwheel | so any bumpage is good :) |
| 07:05.09 | Thunder_Child | ah...i was looking for that thread, but in the stickied section |
| 07:05.46 | cogwheel | yeah, i don't think they want to make it too official |
| 07:06.17 | cogwheel | (quite understandably) |
| 07:06.42 | cogwheel | I wonder why gnomes are so love 'em or hate 'em... http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=2765961422&sid=1 |
| 07:08.35 | cogwheel | Thunder_Child: by the time they'd be able to implement something like that, you'll have an entirely new combat log system :P |
| 07:08.48 | Thunder_Child | eh? |
| 07:09.19 | Thunder_Child | s/eh?/cogwheel: eh?/ |
| 07:09.54 | cogwheel | (you're blorb, no? |
| 07:10.08 | Thunder_Child | yes |
| 07:10.15 | cogwheel | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=2968233433&sid=1#9 |
| 07:11.11 | Thunder_Child | doesnt mean anything to me |
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| 07:14.47 | cogwheel | I don't know all of the ramifications of the change myself, but I think it may be a wait and see situation... |
| 07:15.08 | cogwheel | the information you want may already be in the works |
| 07:15.23 | Thunder_Child | maybe, but it's hardly a huge thing |
| 07:15.33 | cogwheel | and i'm sure they'll be taking feedback while it's on the ptr |
| 07:15.53 | cogwheel | no, it's not, but it's not going to be something they'll put into a minor patch ;) |
| 07:19.08 | Corrodias | ...of course, i start trying names out of desperation and actually succeed on a few which i quickly realize i don't actually want |
| 07:19.09 | JoshBorke | mage is trying to pom poly me |
| 07:19.25 | Corrodias | i got "spastic" :/ |
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| 07:20.41 | cogwheel | Corrodias: Ramona |
| 07:20.59 | Corrodias | that's neither fun nor cute :( |
| 07:23.01 | cogwheel | Squiggles |
| 07:23.17 | cogwheel | what class? |
| 07:23.19 | Corrodias | unavailable, but don't worry, i'm on the scent of a good one |
| 07:23.30 | Corrodias | Cozi? nah, but close |
| 07:23.52 | Corrodias | a new little gnome warlock. first alliance character that has a chance of getting to level 10. |
| 07:24.23 | cogwheel | Rainbowdeath |
| 07:29.07 | Corrodias | Sucralose isn't taken >:P |
| 07:29.20 | Cairenn | rofl |
| 07:30.01 | Corrodias | nor is Fructose. hmm. i could have a whole sweetener-themed series. |
| 07:30.25 | Thunder_Child | or sucrose? |
| 07:30.54 | Corrodias | i shall consider while i put my socks in the dryer |
| 07:31.51 | cogwheel | i was going to suggest Nutrasweet for the same reason |
| 07:32.23 | Cairenn | well, since aspartame is the sweetener in Nutrasweet ... :) |
| 07:33.28 | cogwheel | well yeah... that's what made me lol :P |
| 07:33.33 | Cairenn | :) |
| 07:34.08 | cogwheel | Saccharina (a bit more playful) |
| 07:34.47 | cogwheel | Hfcs |
| 07:34.55 | Cairenn | lol |
| 07:35.12 | cogwheel | Sdalcohol |
| 07:35.35 | Corrodias | Ldlcholesterol |
| 07:35.41 | cogwheel | Sweetnlow |
| 07:35.50 | cogwheel | (appropriate for a gnome) |
| 07:35.55 | Corrodias | heheh |
| 07:38.14 | Corrodias | glycyrrhizin |
| 07:38.26 | cogwheel | O.o |
| 07:40.08 | Corrodias | none of these feel QUITE right |
| 07:40.14 | krka | is fructose a sweetener? i always thought it was a natural sugar type |
| 07:40.31 | cogwheel | sweetener encompasses natural ones |
| 07:40.40 | cogwheel | 'least in my neck of the woods |
| 07:40.41 | krka | ah i see |
| 07:41.13 | cogwheel | usually I hear "artificial sweetener" as a specification |
| 07:41.21 | Corrodias | yeah |
| 07:41.29 | Corrodias | fructose is popular among fruits |
| 07:43.00 | krka | you mean that fruits actively decide between sweeteners and usually go for fructose? |
| 07:43.40 | JoshBorke | krka: obviously |
| 07:43.46 | Corrodias | it takes a few hundred million years, but yes |
| 07:43.48 | cogwheel | :'( |
| 07:44.00 | cogwheel | Corrodias: i was reading about glycyrrhizin... |
| 07:44.08 | cogwheel | i don't like what wikipedia has to say |
| 07:44.53 | cogwheel | because i love chewing on licorice root |
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| 07:46.56 | Corrodias | i wouldn't mind making a non-word name, and it looks like i'll have to in order to find just the right fit... but i've never spent much time around gnomes, and then it was mostly to step on them. i don't know gnome NPC names. :( |
| 07:47.31 | cogwheel | hence my suggestion of Spazzlefink |
| 07:47.37 | cogwheel | Razzlespink |
| 07:47.40 | sioraiocht | anyone here have loop invariant skills? |
| 07:48.45 | krka | ooh, i didnt know licorice was considered "sweet", technically speaking |
| 07:51.22 | cogwheel | sioraiocht: like this? http://www.cs.duke.edu/~ola/patterns/plopd/invariant.html |
| 07:51.39 | sioraiocht | cogwheel: yeah |
| 07:51.44 | cogwheel | not formally (at least i don't remember specifically) |
| 07:52.07 | sioraiocht | am looking for the invariant for the lcm loop |
| 07:52.17 | cogwheel | but we did stuff like that... it was all contrived so it didn't really stick though |
| 07:57.01 | Corrodias | the gnome in my head admits that "Toolie" isn't a terrible name |
| 07:57.05 | Corrodias | i'm closing in |
| 07:57.35 | krka | least common multiplier? |
| 07:57.49 | krka | no wait, largest |
| 07:58.07 | krka | and possibly "multiple" |
| 07:58.52 | Corrodias | oops, i can't use that name. it has something to do with australians. |
| 07:58.58 | krka | hm, least was right |
| 07:59.21 | krka | isn't lcm(x, y) = x * y / gcd(x, y) |
| 08:00.05 | Shirik | it's least common multiple |
| 08:00.26 | Shirik | and yes, that is correct krka |
| 08:04.52 | Thunder_Child | cogwheel, what? how is attaching a name to an event not a small deal? |
| 08:06.32 | Corrodias | it's all sorts of STRINGS man |
| 08:07.42 | Thunder_Child | but the event already exists, i still call attaching a name to an event that already exists a lesser change |
| 08:07.57 | Thunder_Child | a returned name* |
| 08:08.52 | sioraiocht | krka: thank you |
| 08:09.08 | sioraiocht | htf did you get that? i've been playing with these vars for HOURS |
| 08:09.24 | krka | learned it in school a few years ago |
| 08:09.39 | krka | i think it was some discreet math class |
| 08:09.46 | krka | (did i use the right discreet?) |
| 08:09.52 | sioraiocht | no |
| 08:09.53 | sioraiocht | lol |
| 08:09.54 | krka | damn it :) |
| 08:09.55 | sioraiocht | discrete |
| 08:10.33 | krka | you can also read it here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Least_common_multiple |
| 08:11.01 | cogwheel | Thunder_Child: i didn't say it wasn't a small deal. The fact that it is a small deal is exactly what the issue is. They generally don't add brand new features to a minor patch unless it's to fix something (like the new ! mechanic in /cast fixes the conflict between always cast and toggle cast macros) |
| 08:11.32 | Thunder_Child | isnt a new feature, and it is a fix....hell it was prolly an oversight |
| 08:12.30 | cogwheel | hmm... your post was a lot vaguer than it seems you think it was :P could you clarify a bit? |
| 08:12.52 | Thunder_Child | clarify my post? |
| 08:14.37 | sioraiocht | hrm, this put me no closer to this gd invariant |
| 08:16.23 | krka | i am not really sure what an invariant is, but how can you be expected to find it if you dont have some piece of code to look at? |
| 08:16.59 | sioraiocht | 1) I do, but 2) it's a commonly accept algorithm... |
| 08:17.26 | sioraiocht | m, n := x, y ; |
| 08:17.26 | sioraiocht | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:17.26 | sioraiocht | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:17.26 | sioraiocht | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:17.44 | sioraiocht | when the loop terminates, n and m both equal lcm(x,y) |
| 08:18.33 | Thunder_Child | cogwheel, better? http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=101150523&postId=30553511420&sid=1#375 |
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| 08:18.59 | cogwheel | well that sparked a storm... http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=2968233148&sid=1&pageNo=4#79 |
| 08:19.20 | Corrodias | it seems that wow blocks names that contain unfortunate coincidences. My attempt at taking the name "Felcherry" has failed. |
| 08:19.27 | cogwheel | Thunder_Child: actually yes :) |
| 08:19.35 | Thunder_Child | cogwheel, goodie |
| 08:19.53 | Thunder_Child | fel cherry? |
| 08:20.05 | Corrodias | yes |
| 08:20.13 | cogwheel | could you give me an example of something similar that does what you want? |
| 08:20.19 | Corrodias | i think WoW doesn't like how it looks like "felcher ry" |
| 08:20.22 | cogwheel | i'm a bit of a combat log n00b :P |
| 08:21.54 | Thunder_Child | cogwheel, i dunno, all i know is that i use CK's version of sct and i once asked him wht that damaged showed up as just a number and he said "because wow doesnt return a name" |
| 08:22.07 | Corrodias | it didn't used to |
| 08:22.09 | ScytheBlade1 | I should open IRC more often, mostly so I get in on the hot threads faster :P |
| 08:22.27 | Thunder_Child | Corrodias, it still doesnt...thats the issue |
| 08:22.29 | Corrodias | at least, i don't think... but it must have, by combat log |
| 08:22.59 | Thunder_Child | let me go boot up my priest and see |
| 08:23.03 | cogwheel | Thunder_Child: but it does return names for other spells? |
| 08:23.25 | Thunder_Child | cogwheel, the addon? yes |
| 08:23.32 | Thunder_Child | every spell i have been hit with |
| 08:23.57 | cogwheel | ok... i'd be tempted to consider that a bug... |
| 08:24.29 | Thunder_Child | couldnt they just have forgotten to put it in? |
| 08:24.53 | cogwheel | you might post it in the 2.3 thread since 2.3.2 is coming up... |
| 08:25.03 | cogwheel | something like that |
| 08:25.12 | Corrodias | well, Felberry is available, but it's still not quite right |
| 08:25.20 | Corrodias | but i like the Fel- theme, so ima try to stick with that |
| 08:25.57 | krka | sioraiocht: m will be on the form a * x and n will be on the form b * y, and n = m <=> a * x = b * y. lcm is found for the smallest a > 0 and b > 0 that satisfies the equation. if there is a smaller a and b that satisfies, it would have been found sooner in the loop |
| 08:26.18 | sioraiocht | krka |
| 08:26.19 | sioraiocht | right |
| 08:26.32 | sioraiocht | but, a loop invariant has to be in terms of only those vars in the loop |
| 08:26.43 | sioraiocht | i.e a and b are not in the scope |
| 08:27.21 | krka | oh i see |
| 08:27.30 | krka | your task is to find a loop variant condition? |
| 08:27.57 | sioraiocht | nah, i have to find a variant and an invariant, but i'm skipping that question for now.., i have a spec to refine as ell, lol |
| 08:28.11 | krka | oops, my typo |
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| 08:29.44 | Corrodias | corrupt, yet so versatile |
| 08:29.45 | cogwheel | i love it |
| 08:30.12 | Corrodias | you can't help but love a spork, if kil'jaedan himself scratched his butt with it |
| 08:31.07 | Thunder_Child | heh i read fels pork |
| 08:31.53 | Thunder_Child | cogwheel it seems the combat log doesnt show it at all |
| 08:31.54 | Thunder_Child | http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2256/2049777704_683d5a4fc0_b.jpg |
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| 08:32.27 | cogwheel | huh |
| 08:32.28 | Thunder_Child | mind the bad UI, i am in the process of rearanging |
| 08:32.56 | cogwheel | i don't know enough about the combat log to know if there's precedent for that kind of thing... |
| 08:32.58 | Thunder_Child | but an event IS returned or CK wouldnt be able to pick it up |
| 08:33.06 | Thunder_Child | i imagine |
| 08:33.37 | Corrodias | i'm not sure who Fel is or why i'd want to be his pork |
| 08:33.54 | JoshBorke | Thunder_Child: how does battlecast or whatever know it's SW:D? |
| 08:34.04 | JoshBorke | and man that's a weak SW:D :-P |
| 08:34.10 | JoshBorke | mine hit for that much now <3 |
| 08:34.18 | Thunder_Child | i am not shadow spec |
| 08:34.44 | JoshBorke | you've got that uber +healing gear that gives you +700 damage! zomg! |
| 08:35.09 | Thunder_Child | JoshBorke, i have no idea how it knows, but it manages to pick of the type of damage and ammount and it doesnt happen when i kill a target so i imagine it's working correctly |
| 08:35.18 | Thunder_Child | holy DPS |
| 08:36.56 | Thunder_Child | cogwheel, which brings up the question...where should it be posted? |
| 08:37.21 | cogwheel | wow 2.3 changes sticky |
| 08:37.25 | Corrodias | i.. think the gnome jump animation plays backward |
| 08:37.31 | cogwheel | would probably be the best bet |
| 08:37.35 | Corrodias | they just rise into the air and then lean down heavily when they land |
| 08:38.45 | Thunder_Child | cogwheel, even though 2.3 is done? |
| 08:38.52 | JoshBorke | night time |
| 08:38.53 | zenzio | you're trying to find the damage type of SW:D etc? |
| 08:39.03 | Thunder_Child | zenzio, no |
| 08:39.12 | cogwheel | <cogwheel>you might post it in the 2.3 thread since 2.3.2 is coming up... |
| 08:39.22 | cogwheel | :P |
| 08:39.32 | Thunder_Child | one would imagine it would have it's own thread |
| 08:39.44 | cogwheel | nah... they only do threads for major patches |
| 08:39.54 | zenzio | what then? I joined halfway through the discussion :-o |
| 08:40.10 | Thunder_Child | When casting Shadow Word: Death on a target that does not die a percentage of the damage is returned to the caster. This event is not named and simply shows up as X damage. It would be nice to have a name associated with this event for display purposes. |
| 08:40.44 | Tem | any vim people here? |
| 08:40.47 | Corrodias | such as yourself |
| 08:40.55 | Tem | is there a shortcut key when in insert mode to do :w? |
| 08:41.03 | Corrodias | what does the combat log say, TC? i couldn't see from the shot |
| 08:41.17 | Tem | 5 keypresses just to write is a pain in the ass |
| 08:41.27 | Thunder_Child | Corrodias, nothing at all |
| 08:41.50 | Corrodias | wait, what? you just suddenly take damage and there's no combat message? do you have ALL combat messages enabled? by default, many are disabled |
| 08:41.54 | zenzio | so you want the message for the "feedback damage" or whatever you'd call it? |
| 08:42.05 | Thunder_Child | i had all dealing with spell damage |
| 08:42.22 | Corrodias | i swear shadow word: death damage showed up in one of my WWS logs. brb. |
| 08:42.53 | Corrodias | it showed up as an entity, which is weird |
| 08:43.11 | Corrodias | 11/14 21:34:58.078 Preacher suffers 926 Shadow damage from Shadow Word: Death. |
| 08:43.19 | zenzio | Shadowlady gains Shadow Word: Death. Shadowlady's Shadow Word: Death crits Crimson Hand Blood Knight for 2236 Shadow damage. (381 resisted) Shadowlady suffers 2236 Shadow damage from Shadow Word: Death. Shadow Word: Death fades from Shadowlady. |
| 08:43.41 | Thunder_Child | hmm... |
| 08:43.44 | Cairenn|afk | night guys |
| 08:43.47 | Corrodias | 'ni |
| 08:43.51 | zenzio | night |
| 08:44.35 | Thunder_Child | ah, i do get a return |
| 08:44.44 | Thunder_Child | but with some odd option |
| 08:45.00 | Corrodias | i don't know what it'd be under |
| 08:45.28 | Thunder_Child | periodic effect i bet |
| 08:45.43 | Thunder_Child | 00:45:04 You gain Shadow Word: Death. |
| 08:45.43 | Thunder_Child | 00:45:04 You gain Surge of Light. |
| 08:45.43 | Thunder_Child | 00:45:04 Your Shadow Word: Death crits Gordunni Back-Breaker for 1600 Shadow damage. |
| 08:45.44 | Thunder_Child | 00:45:05 You suffer 1600 Shadow damage from Shadow Word: Death. |
| 08:45.44 | Thunder_Child | 00:45:05 Shadow Word: Death fades from you. |
| 08:46.07 | Corrodias | so it's an instant buff/debuff. i've heard a number of effects work that way. |
| 08:46.31 | Thunder_Child | though according to the log i gained the effect before the spell landed |
| 08:47.20 | Corrodias | i guess it applies the buff, then damages you if the spell's target isn't dead when it fades? |
| 08:47.35 | Thunder_Child | interesting way to do it |
| 08:47.46 | Corrodias | or specifically if the spell didn't kill it, probably, based on how it's supposed to work |
| 08:49.20 | Thunder_Child | hmm...i wonder if that was put in later |
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| 08:49.55 | Thunder_Child | and i suppose it's still possible that it's not returned in a way to get it for SCTesc stuff? |
| 08:50.31 | Corrodias | my little priest isn't high enough to test it with MBST |
| 08:50.39 | Corrodias | or any other, for that matter |
| 08:51.20 | Thunder_Child | atm i am testing with blizz's own |
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| 08:52.26 | zenzio | load up devtools (if you haven't) and check what specific event generates the message? |
| 08:52.42 | zenzio | I imagine it's at least possible to hack it into SCT |
| 08:54.29 | Thunder_Child | hmm...well blizz's own doest return names, just numbers |
| 08:55.01 | Thunder_Child | grrr...i have DT, why isnt it working |
| 08:55.38 | zenzio | does turning on the Blizzard SCT-thing stop the normal combat log? It should still show up there otherwise |
| 08:56.07 | Tem | Corrodias, lol your name is preacher? |
| 08:56.09 | Shirik | it does not |
| 08:56.17 | Corrodias | no, that's one of our priests |
| 08:56.17 | Tem | Corrodias, there's a pally in my guild named Preacher |
| 08:56.25 | Thunder_Child | zenzio, it does show up there |
| 08:56.26 | Shirik | There's a druid in my guild named preacher >< |
| 08:56.26 | Corrodias | my priest is only 48 or so |
| 08:56.35 | Corrodias | Solanis, blood elf |
| 08:56.59 | Corrodias | druid? shouldn't he be more like... hippy? |
| 08:57.06 | Shirik | I don't know >< |
| 08:57.09 | Shirik | !c us drenden Preacher |
| 08:57.14 | ThraeBot | Shirik: Preacher, Level 70 Tauren Druid (0/49/12). 11764 HP; 6275 Mana; 149 mana regen; 6885 Armour; 734 AP; 130.100 Melee DPS; 13.15% melee crit; 20 melee hit; 20 +spell dmg/heal; 158 defense; 24.80% dodge; 45 arcane resist; 10 nature resist (+10); +25 all resists (+10 nature);[[ TBR: 522 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/23yhfv ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/3cg2nd ][ Updated: Tue Nov 20 00:03:24 2007 EST ]] |
| 08:57.28 | Shirik | wtf is that stats >< |
| 08:57.31 | Shirik | what did he log out in? |
| 08:57.55 | Shirik | guess he wasn't shapeshifted |
| 08:57.55 | Corrodias | pvp gear, i'd assume |
| 08:58.09 | Corrodias | oh wait |
| 08:58.12 | Shirik | no that looks like tank gear |
| 08:58.20 | Shirik | just without the 400% |
| 08:58.22 | Corrodias | you're right; i didn't see the talent list |
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| 08:59.40 | Shirik | Ok back to studying! |
| 08:59.48 | Shirik | Chapter 17: 802.11 .... bleh |
| 09:00.45 | Corrodias | 801.11 a b g n h 32 ME |
| 09:01.09 | tedrock | if a hunter ganks me while in cat form can i report him for poaching? |
| 09:01.34 | tedrock | wonder what a GM would say |
| 09:01.36 | Corrodias | druids are in season |
| 09:01.44 | tedrock | they are? aww shit |
| 09:02.12 | Corrodias | as much as i'd love to try to brighten someone's day by submitting silly tickets, i doubt most of them would be entertained by somebody lenghthening the queue without good reason |
| 09:02.37 | tedrock | hey anyone here knowledged in macros. i got a weird issue with one |
| 09:02.57 | Corrodias | i think most of us are, shoot |
| 09:03.13 | Thunder_Child | zenzio, firing up dtevent show the aura being put on me, the dmg to the target and the aura being remove, not mention of the damage aplied to me is ever displayed |
| 09:03.13 | tedrock | /castsequence [stealth] tiger's fury,shred; reset=combat/target claw, claw, rake, rip, claw |
| 09:03.58 | tedrock | sometimes it casts fury and the shreds, sometimes it casts shred and the fury |
| 09:03.58 | Thunder_Child | ok, cant type this late |
| 09:03.58 | tedrock | sometimes it doesn't cast fury at all |
| 09:03.58 | tedrock | these are all with different targets |
| 09:04.15 | zenzio | did you try /dtchatevents or whatever it is? You should (in theory) be able to click the # in front of the combat log message then |
| 09:04.26 | Corrodias | castsequence is my weak point |
| 09:04.39 | Corrodias | but i don't see anything to reset the initial sequence |
| 09:04.41 | tedrock | castsequence it's self is a weakpoint |
| 09:04.52 | tedrock | "reset=combat/target" |
| 09:05.01 | tedrock | oh you mean the tiger/shred one |
| 09:05.02 | tedrock | hrmm |
| 09:05.03 | Corrodias | yeah |
| 09:05.26 | tedrock | good point. i believe it put that before the option "[stealth]" |
| 09:05.35 | Corrodias | i pretty much gave up on making castsequence macros |
| 09:06.00 | tedrock | it just makes things simpilar for me while leveling |
| 09:06.11 | tedrock | simpler |
| 09:06.15 | tedrock | whatever. it's late |
| 09:06.34 | Thunder_Child | zenzio, that worked. seems to return a valid arg. |
| 09:06.42 | tedrock | that's likely why though. thanks Corrodias |
| 09:06.50 | Corrodias | np. good luck with it. |
| 09:07.53 | Thunder_Child | ok, heading off, night all |
| 09:08.32 | tedrock | so i assume i'll need 2 resets. one for the stealth and one for the non stealth. or would the first initial reset reset the following nostealth sequence |
| 09:08.53 | tedrock | pretty sure i need 2 |
| 09:09.18 | Corrodias | dunno. like i said, i've given up on castsequence. :( |
| 09:09.38 | tedrock | ok thanks |
| 09:09.39 | tedrock | :D |
| 09:10.45 | Shirik | "If the connection is accepted by the LLC user designated by the DSAP, then the destination LLC entity returns a UA PDU. The connection is henceforth uniquely identified by the pair of user SAPs. If rejected, its LLC entity returns a DM PDU." <-- If you use that many acronyms in a paragraph, you deserve to be shot. |
| 09:12.09 | zenzio | reminds me of The Naked Gun, whichever version |
| 09:18.23 | leethal | Shirik: what does it all mean? =/ |
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| 09:29.37 | cogwheel | hmm... i should probably sleep |
| 09:42.52 | Corrodias | me, too. good night. |
| 09:44.39 | Shirik | leethal: It's just discussing 802.3 and the link control layer |
| 09:44.48 | leethal | :O |
| 09:57.18 | sag_ich_nicht | reminds me of the CCNA materials: "Routing protocols enable router to route routed protocols." |
| 09:57.29 | sag_ich_nicht | erm |
| 09:57.33 | sag_ich_nicht | *routers |
| 09:58.54 | sag_ich_nicht | question: |
| 09:58.55 | sag_ich_nicht | has steam tonks aggroing the summoners at mag been fixed in 2.3? i heard yes, but i'm not sure |
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| 10:18.50 | cladhaire | Anyone here have any experience writing lesson plans? |
| 10:19.30 | sag_ich_nicht | not me :( |
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| 10:31.02 | cladhaire | http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/images/0470229810/sr=8-1/qid=1195554629/ref=dp_image_0/103-7434271-7015006?ie=UTF8&n=283155&s=books&qid=1195554629&sr=8-1 <-- Win |
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| 10:44.20 | Kalroth | haha |
| 10:45.30 | Mike-N-Go | And the craziest hunter spec award goes to http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Sisters+of+Elune&n=Iga |
| 10:45.37 | Shirik | Kalroth: haha? |
| 10:45.43 | Shirik | cladhaire: kinda, why? |
| 10:45.45 | Kalroth | At the book :) |
| 10:46.01 | Shirik | is a real book :/ |
| 10:46.09 | Kalroth | Hence why I laughed. :) |
| 10:46.18 | Kalroth | Of course, I'm only judging by the cover. |
| 10:46.25 | Shirik | in any case, cladhaire I love the cover |
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| 10:48.07 | cladhaire | i'm happy with it |
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| 11:10.47 | Shirik | S3 isn't until next week yeah? |
| 11:11.02 | cladhaire | 23rd yeah |
| 11:11.18 | leethal | I've heard 27th |
| 11:11.21 | leethal | damn those dates |
| 11:27.19 | cladhaire | heh |
| 11:27.22 | cladhaire | whatever the tuesday is |
| 11:27.24 | cladhaire | the 27th i think |
| 11:33.13 | Shirik | 14(0611:3111:3914) 11-› 14[notice from ChanServ14]: You do not have channel operator access to [#bottest] |
| 11:33.13 | Shirik | 14(0611:3111:3914) 11-› ChanServ 11(-o11) Shirik |
| 11:33.13 | Shirik | cry |
| 11:34.08 | cladhaire | lol |
| 11:34.21 | cladhaire | our regatta for this weekend is cancelled |
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| 12:02.50 | Shirik|AFK | what is this wowui.incgamers.com thread about and why is everoyne bashing on them? |
| 12:02.57 | Shirik|AFK | They seem to have done a very bad deed and I'm out of the loop >< |
| 12:04.22 | cladhaire | they saw that wowace and curse are now close partners |
| 12:04.28 | cladhaire | and that you can get wowace addons through curse |
| 12:04.33 | cladhaire | so they took the RSS feed and did the same thing |
| 12:04.39 | cladhaire | the peasants revolted |
| 12:04.44 | Shirik|AFK | heh |
| 12:05.00 | cladhaire | and the "PR" person for wowui basically shat on every addon's copyright |
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| 12:14.06 | Shirik|AFK | I think RDX.Cid is GPLed otherwise I'd participate in any class action lawsuit that might result from this :) |
| 12:21.44 | sag_ich_nicht | question |
| 12:21.45 | sag_ich_nicht | has steam tonks aggroing the summoners at mag been fixed in 2.3? i heard yes, but i'm not sure |
| 12:23.04 | Codayus | Test next time your at Mag for me. :-D |
| 12:23.53 | sag_ich_nicht | no. |
| 12:23.59 | sag_ich_nicht | then i'll get kicked from the raid |
| 12:24.00 | sag_ich_nicht | :/ |
| 12:24.26 | dreamss | lol@futuruma dissing fox |
| 12:24.53 | mikma | in what? |
| 12:25.09 | dreamss | the movie |
| 12:25.11 | Codayus | sag_ich_nicht: Come up with a good excuse first. |
| 12:25.34 | Codayus | If you can get the "evil twin" debuff from using a teleporter, that often works well on clueless raid leaders. |
| 12:25.54 | Codayus | Tell them it mages you randomly use things sometimes. |
| 12:25.59 | Codayus | er, makes, even |
| 12:26.53 | Codayus | Also, on an unrelated note... "<DONT DAZE ME BRO>" is an awesome guild tag... |
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| 12:33.26 | krka | thanks dreamss! i didnt know the movie was out! |
| 12:37.09 | dreamss | cough |
| 12:40.21 | dreamss | bender@ilovebender.com |
| 12:40.54 | mikma | zoidberg <3 |
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| 12:46.12 | cladhaire | ugt Legorol |
| 12:48.01 | mikma | http://break.com/index/chuck-norris-picks-a-candidate.html |
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| 13:02.11 | mikma | http://break.com/index/drunk-redneck-lawnmower-dui.html |
| 13:06.03 | Industrial | I KNOW MAH LAAHWZ |
| 13:06.38 | Cairenn|afk | rofl |
| 13:10.42 | JoshBorke | morning Cairenn|afk |
| 13:10.54 | Cairenn|afk | hi |
| 13:11.14 | JoshBorke | schlafst du gut? |
| 13:12.21 | Cairenn|afk | mmrrh? |
| 13:12.27 | JoshBorke | did you sleep well? |
| 13:12.33 | Cairenn|afk | I can guess, but ... okay, I was right |
| 13:12.47 | Cairenn|afk | ummm, guess so - if you count 3hrs sleep as "sleeping well" |
| 13:13.22 | JoshBorke | well, were they at least partially restful? |
| 13:13.34 | Cairenn|afk | heh, yeah - gonna go get some more though |
| 13:14.18 | Cairenn|afk | been awake long enough to be able to get back to sleep now |
| 13:15.21 | JoshBorke | that's good, i have to wait until 3 before i can nap |
| 13:16.57 | Cairenn|afk | naps are one of the great joys in the world, I swear |
| 13:17.31 | JoshBorke | i agree, especially long naps in the afternoon |
| 13:21.28 | cladhaire | how long do you all nap for? |
| 13:23.54 | JoshBorke | me? average nap is at least 90 minutes |
| 13:24.18 | JoshBorke | i tend to not count the 20 minute naps i accidently take in class |
| 13:24.26 | Cairenn|afk | lol |
| 13:31.15 | JoshBorke | they are an accident :-D |
| 13:31.27 | Cairenn|afk | uh huh |
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| 13:38.48 | Lothaer | hey guys |
| 13:39.11 | Cairenn|afk | hi Lothaer |
| 13:39.18 | malreth | Loooothearrrrr... Of the hilllllllll peeeeeopleeeee... |
| 13:39.26 | Lothaer | LOL |
| 13:40.06 | malreth | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Short-lived_recurring_characters_on_Saturday_Night_Live#Lothar_of_the_Hill_People |
| 13:40.18 | Lothaer | hey do u guys i remember there being a lua code colour download for Dreamweaver on wowinterface but its not there anymore any idea were i can get it? |
| 13:41.32 | Cairenn|afk | huh, bela pulled it - wonder why |
| 13:41.46 | Cairenn|afk | best bet would be to PM Beladona on the site and ask |
| 13:41.54 | Lothaer | yeah i got Dreamweaver CS3 and id like to get that download again |
| 13:42.11 | Cairenn|afk | he likely still has it lying around somewhere |
| 13:42.25 | Cairenn|afk | may have pulled it because it was outdated or something /shrug |
| 13:43.31 | Lothaer | thankyou |
| 13:43.33 | Cairenn|afk | send a PM to Beladona asking about it: http://www.wowinterface.com/forums/member.php?userid=12439 |
| 13:44.06 | Cairenn|afk | iirc it was his |
| 13:44.12 | Wobin | "short lived" "recurring characters" =P |
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| 13:44.19 | Lothaer | yeah i just P<d him/her for the extension |
| 13:44.23 | Cairenn|afk | Wobin: ? |
| 13:44.27 | Lothaer | PMd* |
| 13:44.29 | Zxcvb | do they do a full fsck when they restart the server? |
| 13:44.34 | Wobin | in that wikipedia link |
| 13:44.41 | Cairenn|afk | ah |
| 13:45.05 | Cairenn|afk | okay, back to bed for me |
| 13:45.33 | Cairenn|afk | I expect you guys to dish me up some more fun drama &/or pure wtf again today |
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| 13:59.50 | matt1s | I've just started looking into how to build object structures with metatable in Lua, how relevant is this to WoW addons? |
| 14:00.19 | matt1s | I'm wondering if I should invest the time to learn it or not at this stage |
| 14:00.22 | malreth | matt1s: it's not necessary for you to do so |
| 14:00.30 | malreth | but good code design is always a good idea |
| 14:00.54 | malreth | so if an object oriented approach helps make your code easier to read and/or maintain, then go for it |
| 14:01.24 | malreth | if a functional approach works better, then OO is probably only going to confuse things |
| 14:02.10 | matt1s | I have a relatively poor understanding of functional approach to an OO approach |
| 14:02.24 | malreth | as for your second question, i believe that all time spent learning something new regardless of its relevance is still time well spent |
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| 14:02.56 | matt1s | yeah, it was kind of a silly question. I've already started thinking of new ways to do things in PHP just because Lua introduced me to other ways of thinking |
| 14:03.09 | malreth | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Functional_programming |
| 14:04.05 | malreth | i was introduced to functional programming back in college when i took Scheme |
| 14:04.50 | malreth | that was the intro class that all CS majors were required to take... well, either Scheme or Haskell but people who use Haskell are dumb. |
| 14:05.14 | matt1s | :P I've never been introduced to functional programming before, should be interesting |
| 14:05.27 | malreth | it's too early for such controversial statements to have an effect... |
| 14:05.29 | malreth | :( |
| 14:05.56 | malreth | i highly recommend never ever using functional programming |
| 14:06.02 | malreth | BWAH HA HA HA AH! |
| 14:06.15 | malreth | purl, malreth |
| 14:06.16 | purl | malreth is always right |
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| 14:06.20 | malreth | that's righ! |
| 14:06.26 | malreth | s/righ!/right/ |
| 14:08.05 | malreth | ok, i'm kidding... |
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| 14:08.57 | malreth | but the cool thing is Lua allows you to use some functional programming techniques such as passing functions as arguments to other functions and then returning new functions and things like that |
| 14:10.47 | matt1s | mhm, I'm having some fun with that :P I like the notion of pure functions too, never heard the term before |
| 14:14.22 | Lopeppepy | Morning, |Jelly|-dear! |
| 14:14.36 | AnduinLothar | so... how long is it gonna take to encode my 41 min movie to mp4.. |
| 14:14.52 | AnduinLothar | 2 hrs? |
| 14:15.08 | malreth | One dollar, Bob. |
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| 14:15.58 | |Jelly| | No hug? I see how it is. |
| 14:15.59 | AnduinLothar | prolly plenty of time to do my hw |
| 14:16.28 | AnduinLothar | which was the reason i spent 6 hours making the movie.. |
| 14:16.35 | AnduinLothar | to avoid hw |
| 14:16.43 | malreth | are you a movie director? |
| 14:16.45 | Lopeppepy | I'm trying to avoid choking the crap out of things, Jelly... today is all about non-contact sports! |
| 14:17.29 | AnduinLothar | It's my ret pally pvp movie |
| 14:17.32 | AnduinLothar | take 1 |
| 14:17.47 | malreth | oh, so you're a movie star AND director |
| 14:17.52 | malreth | like William Shatner |
| 14:17.53 | sag_ich_nicht | WTB addon that replaces the voice chat PTT sound |
| 14:17.54 | AnduinLothar | yup! |
| 14:18.42 | AnduinLothar | i even put eclectic trance and electronica to it |
| 14:18.57 | AnduinLothar | with some muse for good measure |
| 14:19.07 | malreth | you are really pushing the envelope of artistic merit and good taste, AnduinLothar ;) |
| 14:19.26 | malreth | :D |
| 14:19.28 | AnduinLothar | just wait till you see it! |
| 14:19.31 | sag_ich_nicht | he is really pushing my nerves |
| 14:19.49 | |Jelly| | How are you doing this morning, Peppy? :) |
| 14:19.50 | AnduinLothar | shut up and play sag, |
| 14:20.03 | |Jelly| | I mean, aside from being out of breath from being tackle-hugged TWICE. |
| 14:20.27 | Lopeppepy | I'm watching the ice storm and cussin' out my new computer. Hugs help lots, thanks so much. *hugs back finally* |
| 14:20.51 | |Jelly| | :P Hugs always help! What's going on with your new computer? |
| 14:20.54 | sag_ich_nicht | AnduinLothar: i am. but my raid tab is broken |
| 14:21.00 | sag_ich_nicht | i blame you and engbags |
| 14:21.09 | AnduinLothar | eh, only in combat. and that's IEF |
| 14:21.29 | AnduinLothar | haven't been able to track it |
| 14:22.10 | AnduinLothar | don't you hate it when the progress bar just isn't wide enough so it never moves... |
| 14:22.30 | Lopeppepy | Soft locking WoW on me, |Jelly|. I'm going down through the list of Usual Suspects to try to get it better. |
| 14:22.37 | malreth | what program are you using for the encode, AnduinLothar? |
| 14:22.47 | |Jelly| | Ahh. I'm sure you'll get it! :) |
| 14:22.51 | sag_ich_nicht | [15:21] <+AnduinLothar> eh, only in combat. and that's IEF <--IEF is disabled for me :P |
| 14:23.05 | sag_ich_nicht | and it's not only in combat |
| 14:23.08 | AnduinLothar | HyperEngine-AV it's an open source mac video editor |
| 14:23.13 | Lopeppepy | It just needs patience, |Jelly|, but my redhead temper is sorta interfering with the patient-process. |
| 14:23.22 | malreth | eeeeenterersting |
| 14:23.24 | Kaso | http://www.mozilla.com/firefox/its-an-attack.html |
| 14:23.34 | |Jelly| | I feel ya there...and I'm not even a read head! |
| 14:23.36 | AnduinLothar | it was free |
| 14:23.46 | |Jelly| | s/read/red (wtf was I thinking/ |
| 14:23.47 | AnduinLothar | and pretty damn good for free too |
| 14:23.50 | |Jelly| | ) |
| 14:23.55 | |Jelly| | screw iot |
| 14:23.58 | |Jelly| | grrrrrr |
| 14:24.37 | malreth | i've noticed that the Mac OS X progress bars have that subtle undulating pattern effect that gives the optical illusion that the bar is still moving even though it's staying still |
| 14:24.52 | AnduinLothar | ya, heh |
| 14:24.55 | malreth | also, they hypnotize you |
| 14:25.00 | Lopeppepy | |Jelly|, I'm sure you *were* thinking that... *giggles* |
| 14:25.01 | malreth | feed you messages to your mind |
| 14:25.20 | malreth | "Drink Coca-Cola" |
| 14:25.24 | AnduinLothar | i have an os skin using Shapeshifter, so mine's even more subtle |
| 14:25.36 | Lopeppepy | It's okay, I understand. |
| 14:25.47 | |Jelly| | It's been a long night! :P |
| 14:26.40 | Lopeppepy | Kaso: That's a really interesting page, I just wish that Firefox 3 were actually available to download or something! |
| 14:26.50 | Kaso | well! |
| 14:26.52 | Lopeppepy | Mine too, |Jelly|, mine too. |
| 14:26.53 | Kaso | beta 1 is out today |
| 14:27.11 | Lopeppepy | Good to know, Kaso. I'll keep an eye out for a release version. |
| 14:27.57 | malreth | matt1s: HA! we were just talking about functional programming earlier... http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=2968113949&sid=1 |
| 14:28.26 | malreth | scanning through the threads is saw "Curry function" and i though, "Noooooooo!" |
| 14:28.58 | malreth | what are the odds... |
| 14:29.28 | MoonWolf | well |
| 14:29.32 | MoonWolf | i'd like a curry function |
| 14:29.40 | MoonWolf | like get |
| 14:29.49 | MoonWolf | getCurry() |
| 14:30.05 | malreth | and it returns vindaloo? |
| 14:30.45 | MoonWolf | no |
| 14:30.49 | MoonWolf | it returns a curry object. |
| 14:30.56 | MoonWolf | preferably on a plate |
| 14:31.17 | malreth | local lunch = getCurry(); lunch:Eat("yom") |
| 14:31.21 | Lopeppepy | Okay... Repair utility says my game doesn't suck. *nod* |
| 14:31.40 | MoonWolf | malreth, that would be the functionality we are looking for. |
| 14:32.06 | malreth | now *that's* functional programming |
| 14:32.09 | malreth | [applause] |
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| 14:34.09 | Kaso | Anything new happen with that sorg (i think) guy from the other night? |
| 14:34.52 | |Jelly| | no |
| 14:35.20 | malreth | the focus of the forum quickly switched over to the addon pirating thread |
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| 14:36.00 | malreth | UI/Macros is the 'oooh shiny thing' forum |
| 14:36.06 | Kaso | This the wowace wowui thing? |
| 14:36.11 | malreth | yah |
| 14:36.36 | Kaso | care to give me a cliff's note version for somone who doesnt feel like reading the thread through |
| 14:37.08 | malreth | wowui site slurps all of wowace's addons, copies the zips to their site, and redistributes them |
| 14:37.20 | malreth | authors get upset |
| 14:37.31 | malreth | wowui site call authors babies |
| 14:37.38 | malreth | authors kick ass |
| 14:37.54 | malreth | wowui removes addons... kinda... sorta... no, not really... |
| 14:38.00 | malreth | people complain... |
| 14:38.02 | Codayus | Kaso: wowui decided to distribute all the addons on the wowace svn without asking. On being called, they got very defensive and abusive. *shrug* Not surprising, they've done it before and will do it again... |
| 14:38.20 | malreth | drama ensues |
| 14:38.26 | cogwheel | morning |
| 14:38.51 | Kaso | So nothing definite has come of it yet? |
| 14:39.04 | Codayus | (In case it's not obvious, distributing beta quality mods without asking the authors is bad because they're beta, bad because it's rude, and bad because it violates copyright.) |
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| 14:39.25 | malreth | hello cogwheel |
| 14:40.17 | malreth | well, i think they've removed all of the improperly obtained addons, they stopped hotlinking, and they're deleting any threads that voice any criticism |
| 14:40.20 | malreth | or something like that |
| 14:40.32 | Codayus | Down the memory hole it goes. :-) |
| 14:40.38 | malreth | it's basically over, yah |
| 14:40.46 | malreth | people will forget about it OOH A BIRD!!! |
| 14:41.20 | Kaso | Like the memory hole refence :> |
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| 14:44.51 | Polarina | dolby-wowi: Could you remove the Flash thing under the "FSF Member" section to the right? |
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| 14:45.11 | malreth | the Data API thread is a good idea, cogwheel |
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| 15:26.34 | foxlit | Can string.format format strings specify which argument goes where? |
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| 15:28.20 | |Jelly| | <3 Peppy! |
| 15:28.37 | Polarina | foxlit: ("some like %s string"):format("four") |
| 15:28.52 | foxlit | That's not quite it |
| 15:29.35 | foxlit | ("%s is %s it."):format("more", "This"); |
| 15:29.53 | foxlit | s/%s it/%s like it/ |
| 15:31.30 | foxlit | No? Really? :) |
| 15:33.41 | foxlit | lua> ("%2%s is %1%s it."):format("more", "This"); |
| 15:33.41 | lua_bot | foxlit: [string "("%2%s is %1%s it."):format("more", "This")..."]:1: invalid option '%%' to 'format' |
| 15:34.19 | foxlit | lua> print(("%2$s is %1$s like it."):format("more", "This")); |
| 15:34.19 | lua_bot | foxlit: This is more like it. |
| 15:34.22 | foxlit | Win! |
| 15:34.39 | Lopeppepy | Huh.... my alt guild has been abandoned. How curious. |
| 15:35.19 | Polarina | foxlit: :D |
| 15:35.35 | foxlit | php's documentation strikes again |
| 15:35.40 | Polarina | foxlit: ROFL |
| 15:38.31 | foxlit | Let me optimize self:SetText(self.text:gsub("#([bft])", RAB_layout_BSVFormatCache)); to something prettier |
| 15:40.16 | foxlit | But I still have to transform self.text to a format string :/ |
| 15:47.15 | malreth | can someone recommend a better way to do this? my Lua is a bit rusty after all these months... http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=2968113949&postId=30524717437&sid=1#1 |
| 15:47.50 | TS|Skrom | foxlit the key is being "more then meets the eye" |
| 15:48.10 | foxlit | eh? :) |
| 15:48.14 | TS|Skrom | transform |
| 15:48.36 | foxlit | ah. |
| 15:49.35 | foxlit | malreth: yeah, you can probably shorten that |
| 15:49.38 | foxlit | Why "curry"? :) |
| 15:49.48 | malreth | it's a functional programming term |
| 15:49.50 | TS|Skrom | yeah, why not sage? |
| 15:49.59 | TS|Skrom | or oregano |
| 15:50.08 | malreth | you take a function that takes multiple arguments and reduce it to a function that takes a single argument |
| 15:50.12 | foxlit | You'd have to go into a bit more detail! |
| 15:51.29 | foxlit | Or, no, you can't. |
| 15:51.51 | foxlit | ... can remain an upvalue, but you need to insert things after it, so you're in a bad shape to begin with. |
| 15:51.58 | malreth | in particular, i ran into a problem getting multiple returns from the unpack() function |
| 15:52.18 | foxlit | Beyond that |
| 15:52.24 | foxlit | greet (2) would still print to channel 1 |
| 15:52.39 | malreth | i couldn't get ... to work as an upvalue. the interpreter complained since the inner closure wasn't a vararg function |
| 15:52.41 | foxlit | It'd be better to define greet directly in most situations I can think of. |
| 15:53.10 | malreth | the thing is it isn't about the greet function |
| 15:53.31 | malreth | you could use the curry function with any function that took multiple arguments |
| 15:53.43 | foxlit | Obviously, but that's still horrible |
| 15:53.56 | malreth | it's not horrible... it's *functional* |
| 15:53.58 | malreth | :) |
| 15:54.20 | malreth | well, it's horrible because of the insert and unpack |
| 15:54.29 | malreth | i'll grant you that, for sure |
| 15:54.31 | foxlit | You need to remove afterwards too |
| 15:54.44 | foxlit | Or you'll have those values stuck in your upvalue table. |
| 15:54.56 | TS|Skrom | it's horrible because thyme > curry |
| 15:55.13 | TS|Skrom | my humor today is wasted on all of you. |
| 15:55.13 | malreth | hmm... but i see what you mean... |
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| 16:05.33 | art3mis | woo |
| 16:05.49 | art3mis | i fergot that the first futurama "movie" comes out next week |
| 16:07.40 | krka | it's already out |
| 16:07.41 | krka | leaked |
| 16:08.36 | art3mis | thats what reminded me ;) |
| 16:12.08 | art3mis | oh and if you see ricky gervais live the fame tour kicking around watch it |
| 16:12.14 | art3mis | it's actually quite hilarious |
| 16:16.50 | Kaso | Post #78 in the Addon Piracy thread amuses me "Well, after seeing that something like this actually happens, I'm no longer going to GPL my addons, and am going to need to find a different license to use." |
| 16:17.10 | Kaso | Strikes me as someone who just tagged GPL onto his addon without actually reading/considering the licence |
| 16:17.11 | malreth | yeah... |
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| 16:17.39 | malreth | kaso: agreed |
| 16:17.56 | zenzelezz | that's one of the reasons I'll never use the GPL myself, it's too complicated for me to completely understand |
| 16:18.14 | zenzelezz | legal English confuses me pretty fast |
| 16:18.53 | Kaso | Please sign here, what's it for? Oh it just explains you've won the.... first annual montgomory burns award for.. excellence in the field of.... Excellence! |
| 16:20.58 | Lopeppepy | And the fine print requires you to donate your spleen to science. Right now. No anaesthetic. Just do it. |
| 16:22.20 | |Jelly| | orly? sign me up! |
| 16:23.23 | Kaso | Required monty python link ; http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8tmLvzubP3I |
| 16:25.09 | Lopeppepy | Okay, |Jelly|, just head right into the bathroom and rip out your spleen. You should put it in a Ziplock bag and express mail it to the Bliz Tech Support Team, rush delivery. K? |
| 16:25.22 | art3mis | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fIXByCAIzos <-- even more required monty python link |
| 16:25.32 | |Jelly| | Which one is your spleen again? :P |
| 16:26.30 | matt1s | what does a red function in http://www.wowwiki.com/World_of_Warcraft_API mean? |
| 16:26.31 | art3mis | its right next to your sqeedilysmooch |
| 16:26.35 | Polarina | malreth: Your function would differ in behaviour if I call it like carry(f, x) or carry(f, x, nil) |
| 16:26.44 | Kaso | matt1s, means noone has written an info page about it |
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| 16:26.57 | matt1s | Kaso: ah I see, thanks |
| 16:27.06 | Polarina | s/carry(/curry(/ |
| 16:27.08 | malreth | Polarina: my function was trash... i've thrown it away now. i never look back |
| 16:27.09 | art3mis | linky that wowace thread |
| 16:27.19 | malreth | :) |
| 16:27.22 | Kaso | feel free to click the link and fill it in yourself if you know about that function, matt1s |
| 16:27.53 | matt1s | is there an equivilant to var_dump for PHP in Lua? |
| 16:27.55 | malreth | Polarina: but yes, that is true |
| 16:28.03 | malreth | but i think that's by design |
| 16:28.18 | Kaso | I dont know php matt1s but i think iriel's devtools is what you want |
| 16:28.23 | Kaso | ~devtools |
| 16:28.23 | purl | Iriel's DevTools, a highly useful set of debugging tools for developers on WoW. Found at http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/fileinfo.php?id=3999 Why isn't it in the default client yet? |
| 16:28.24 | malreth | since if you curried a function that way, you probably meant it |
| 16:28.50 | Lopeppepy | |Jelly|... it's squishy. Just pick something you think you can live without and package it up, it's not like people are all cannibalism experts to identify your spleen from your pancreas, right? |
| 16:28.55 | art3mis | someone link the addon piracy thread, im bored |
| 16:29.06 | Kaso | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=2968233148&sid=1&pageNo=4 |
| 16:29.25 | malreth | it's gotten interesting now that the Rush-what's-his-face has shown up |
| 16:29.35 | |Jelly| | hehe |
| 16:30.32 | malreth | he's thrown the IGE card at Cairenn |
| 16:30.45 | Lopeppepy | Ooooh.... I hope it doesn't scratch. |
| 16:31.09 | Polarina | Is Omen's code derived from Threat-1.0? |
| 16:31.21 | Kaso | omen uses the thread-1.0 lib |
| 16:31.23 | Shirik | wait, malreth? |
| 16:31.29 | Kaso | omen is just a frontend |
| 16:31.29 | Shirik | Weren't you the one that posted that thing... sec |
| 16:31.30 | malreth | omen uses threat |
| 16:31.33 | Polarina | Kaso: Threat-1.0 lib is GPL? |
| 16:31.49 | Shirik | never mind, I made you up |
| 16:31.52 | Kaso | might not be GPL exactly but it is some sort of GNU licence |
| 16:32.22 | malreth | Shirik: which thing? the curry function post? |
| 16:32.28 | Shirik | yeh |
| 16:32.31 | malreth | yah... |
| 16:32.35 | Shirik | oh that's you? |
| 16:32.42 | Shirik | use the same nick on the forums >< |
| 16:32.47 | malreth | no... i tried to answer him |
| 16:32.47 | Shirik | it's confusing me |
| 16:32.52 | Shirik | ah |
| 16:32.55 | Shirik | I already did answer him :) |
| 16:32.56 | Kaso | its LGPL Polarina |
| 16:33.15 | malreth | where, Shirik? |
| 16:33.16 | Polarina | Kaso: Ok. |
| 16:33.21 | Shirik | http://www.wowinterface.com/forums/showthread.php?p=76086#post76086 |
| 16:33.32 | Shirik | why, where else did he post? |
| 16:33.42 | malreth | UI/Macros forum |
| 16:33.48 | malreth | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=2968113949&postId=30524717437&sid=1#1 |
| 16:34.44 | malreth | hmm... |
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| 16:35.08 | malreth | you're going down the same road i did... |
| 16:35.23 | malreth | a table has to be created to hold the varargs |
| 16:35.33 | Shirik | I didn't "go down" any road except tell him that what he wants isn't really possible :) |
| 16:35.49 | Shirik | I gave him a workaround, but it's not flawless |
| 16:36.29 | malreth | he really doesn't need a second vararg expression |
| 16:36.51 | malreth | since the idea behind a curry is the returned function should take a single argument |
| 16:37.06 | Shirik | the problem is that what he wants isn't really possible |
| 16:37.28 | AnduinLothar | so i compressed my whole movie only to find out that i had forgot to enable the sound in the codec settings |
| 16:37.31 | Shirik | '...' cannot be used outside of a vararg function |
| 16:37.35 | Shirik | it cannot be an upvalue |
| 16:37.39 | malreth | yes, there is that |
| 16:37.42 | Shirik | it's not a first-order value |
| 16:37.50 | sag_ich_nicht | AnduinLothar doesn't matter |
| 16:37.57 | sag_ich_nicht | demux it, add the audio stream, remux it |
| 16:38.06 | Shirik | yeah the audio stream is separate from the video stream :) |
| 16:38.13 | malreth | and the second is that Lua shortens multiple values returned from an expression to a single when not at the end of a list |
| 16:38.30 | Shirik | that's an unfair statement |
| 16:38.39 | Shirik | What Lua does is provide immutable tuples |
| 16:38.40 | Shirik | that's it |
| 16:38.52 | Shirik | What it does there is merely how immutable tuples work - they become cast to a single value |
| 16:39.00 | Shirik | because they are, by definition, immutable |
| 16:39.58 | art3mis | wow lotsa of people in this thread want to be Frank |
| 16:40.13 | malreth | well, while that's true i don't know if that's his problem |
| 16:40.15 | Lopeppepy | I'd like to be Surely. |
| 16:40.37 | art3mis | now jest! |
| 16:40.49 | malreth | one sec... pasting something up |
| 16:41.29 | malreth | http://wowi.pastey.net/77683 |
| 16:41.55 | malreth | wait... |
| 16:42.14 | malreth | http://wowi.pastey.net/77684 |
| 16:42.15 | malreth | there |
| 16:42.19 | |Jelly| | Bye guys. Wish my luck in my baptism by fire! :) |
| 16:42.53 | malreth | if all of the values in args could get unpacked and yet still have x come after in line 4... |
| 16:42.59 | malreth | but that's not how lua works |
| 16:43.19 | Lopeppepy | Anyone have a link to a RAM tester, I want to make sure my RAMs aren't causing my lockups, and my SearchFu on the Tech Support Forum is in Epic Fail mode. |
| 16:43.26 | Shirik | again, you're going to have the problem where unpack() returns an immutable tuple |
| 16:43.28 | malreth | the result from unpack(args) is shortened to a single value because it's not the last argument to the function |
| 16:43.30 | [dRaCo] | baptism by fire kinda reminds me of "by fire be purged!" - those were the days... |
| 16:43.33 | Shirik | the only place you can possibly do this concatenation is inside the table |
| 16:43.38 | malreth | correct |
| 16:44.02 | [dRaCo] | Lopeppepy: http://www.memtest.org/ |
| 16:44.05 | malreth | ok... so we're agreeing.. i just wasn't following the terminology |
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| 16:45.47 | malreth | but since you can't insert the value at the end of the table within the inner closure without affecting the args upvalue |
| 16:46.02 | malreth | you have to create yet another local table |
| 16:46.10 | malreth | and insert the values into that |
| 16:46.23 | Lopeppepy | Thanks, dRaCo. That's usually an overnight process, I'll be looking at it tonight! |
| 16:46.36 | malreth | which gets really messy |
| 16:46.45 | [dRaCo] | gl with that =) |
| 16:46.46 | Shirik | and as you can see, that's exactly what I did on wowinterface :) |
| 16:46.52 | Shirik | two tables, then iterate over them to build a third |
| 16:47.01 | Shirik | in theory you could reuse one of the two |
| 16:47.11 | malreth | well, you shouldn't have to iterate... |
| 16:47.26 | Shirik | in theory you could reuse one, actually, just the performance implications will be interesting |
| 16:47.28 | malreth | but correct, essentially |
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| 16:49.31 | malreth | either that or chain enough closures together |
| 16:49.46 | Shirik | that would be a horrible idea |
| 16:49.59 | malreth | nonsense! it's fun and tasty! |
| 16:50.04 | Shirik | not only would you eat up a ton of memory, you would kill the stack every time you did the call |
| 16:50.37 | zenzelezz | what has the stack ever done for us anyway! |
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| 16:52.08 | Shirik | uh |
| 16:52.11 | Shirik | let you call functions? >< |
| 16:52.17 | zenzelezz | you fail |
| 16:52.38 | malreth | heh! |
| 16:52.42 | malreth | it's ugly but it works |
| 16:52.56 | Shirik | so do the tables... |
| 16:53.00 | Shirik | and they eat up a ton less memory |
| 16:53.03 | Shirik | and aren't prone to stack overflow |
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| 16:57.03 | Shirik | ok I'm incredibly tired and need to sleep before my flight |
| 16:57.06 | Shirik | peace |
| 16:59.10 | malreth | aw... |
| 16:59.25 | malreth | http://wowi.pastey.net/77689 |
| 16:59.40 | malreth | two unpacks and one insert |
| 16:59.48 | malreth | no iteration |
| 17:00.09 | malreth | but still one wasted table |
| 17:00.47 | Kaso | that only allows for one arg to be passed to the returned function, he wanted it to be un-limited did he not ? |
| 17:00.59 | malreth | well, that wouldn't be a curry |
| 17:01.14 | art3mis | http://www.cracked.com/article_15670_25-most-baffling-toys-from-around-world.html |
| 17:01.22 | malreth | since a curry is supposed to reduce a function to a single argument |
| 17:02.09 | malreth | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Currying |
| 17:02.21 | malreth | ooh! |
| 17:02.27 | malreth | Schönfinkelisation... I like that! |
| 17:02.39 | malreth | the German language makes everything better! |
| 17:03.30 | Kaso | i see i havent seen currying before and was just going on what he'd defined in the thread |
| 17:05.10 | Kaso | Speaking of stuff i havent done before.. |
| 17:06.16 | Kaso | I'm about to start a fairly big project and i've never used a version control system before, but i think i'd be a good idea to start one, does anyone know of a good starter guide introducing to using / installing one ? |
| 17:07.08 | zenzelezz | don't have any links to guides, but I'd go with Subversion |
| 17:07.29 | JoshBorke | malreth: join #luabot |
| 17:07.53 | art3mis | dont do it mal! |
| 17:08.06 | art3mis | thats the equiv of "get in my van and help me find me puppy" |
| 17:08.11 | malreth | ooh! |
| 17:08.16 | malreth | it's so big! |
| 17:08.49 | JoshBorke | Kaso: googlecode ftw! |
| 17:08.59 | JoshBorke | Kaso: though, svn is easy to setup and use |
| 17:09.11 | Kaso | I'd rather it be a local setup to an online thing at the moment |
| 17:09.32 | JoshBorke | yea, svn is very easy, though if you ask kergoth he'll tell you to go with git |
| 17:09.39 | art3mis | you should use the wowace svn so that people from incgamers can "help" you test and trouble shoot ;) |
| 17:09.47 | Kaso | haha :> |
| 17:10.03 | Kaso | Unfortunately this isn't a wow project so i cant have that pleasure |
| 17:10.20 | art3mis | doesnt matter ;) |
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| 17:11.06 | Kaso | I guess i'll throw svn on my linux box and play around and see what's i get's |
| 17:11.09 | JoshBorke | they'll still help you test :-P |
| 17:11.31 | AnduinLothar | Well, I've got my video... but the quality is not as good as i wanted. I'll have to reencode with higher settings |
| 17:11.51 | JoshBorke | AnduinLothar: of? |
| 17:11.57 | art3mis | oh my god~! |
| 17:12.10 | art3mis | the new futurama starts off SOOO awesome! |
| 17:12.14 | AnduinLothar | ret pvp |
| 17:12.53 | nevcairiel | new futurama? |
| 17:12.54 | nevcairiel | where? |
| 17:13.23 | JoshBorke | lua> function c(f, ...) local a={...} return function (...) local b = {...} return f(unpack(b), unpack(a)) end end test = c(print, "Test", "part deux"); test("Fred", "George", "Sally") |
| 17:13.23 | lua_bot | JoshBorke: Fred, Test, part deux |
| 17:13.26 | JoshBorke | why doesn't that work? |
| 17:13.48 | art3mis | the first movie comes out next week but if you look around im sure you'll be able to help groening and fox networks distribute it better ;) |
| 17:13.53 | AnduinLothar | Don't have much bandwidth so don't go all downloading at once. http://www.karlkfi.com/WoW/RetPallyPwnage.mov |
| 17:15.20 | art3mis | would that be a ret pally pwning or a ret pally getting pwned? |
| 17:15.30 | JoshBorke | nvm, i understand |
| 17:15.30 | AnduinLothar | much pwning |
| 17:15.36 | nevcairiel | JoshBorke: i think you cant pass ... to stored funcs |
| 17:15.37 | art3mis | lies! |
| 17:16.01 | AnduinLothar | mostly 2v2 witha mage and wsg with a pocket healer |
| 17:16.26 | art3mis | isnt the 41 point in the ret tree "Makes people laugh at you as you hit them for 41 points of damage" ? |
| 17:16.57 | JoshBorke | the moral of the story is that you can prepend but not append to vararg |
| 17:17.01 | AnduinLothar | more like bonk them over the head with 1500 every other weapon swing |
| 17:17.23 | JoshBorke | lua> function c(f, ...) local a={...} return function (b) return f(b, ...) end end test = c(print, "Test", "part deux"); test("Fred", "George", "Sally") |
| 17:17.24 | lua_bot | JoshBorke: sandbox.lua:286: Compilation failed: [string "function c(f, ...) local a={...} return function (b) return f..."]:1: cannot use '...' outside a vararg function near '...' |
| 17:17.25 | AnduinLothar | it's like duel weildign 2h'ers |
| 17:17.33 | JoshBorke | nevcairiel: you're correct, but i wasn't :_D |
| 17:17.48 | nevcairiel | heh |
| 17:18.04 | JoshBorke | wasn't passing ... to the function that is |
| 17:18.19 | art3mis | perhaps a smaller file with a different encoder would work better ;) |
| 17:18.27 | art3mis | nice crits though |
| 17:19.03 | AnduinLothar | I don't claim to be an encoding genious |
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| 17:19.20 | AnduinLothar | I'm gonna up the bps and do a double pass |
| 17:20.51 | art3mis | http://www.myndflame.com/index.php?categoryid=3&p803_sectionid=999999&p803_fileid=133&p803_js_on=1&s=1244092dee22737928bb0dca52631b19 |
| 17:20.55 | art3mis | ^^ the gnomen |
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| 17:24.13 | Kaso | firefox beta 1 is alot more buggy than i would have expected |
| 17:24.27 | Kaso | s/firefox/firefox 3.0/ |
| 17:25.09 | AnduinLothar | :) i love the part where my mage partner takes a warrior with more health |
| 17:25.46 | art3mis | its firefox |
| 17:26.16 | art3mis | "We've taken a good idea and decided that it didnt have enough bloat. So..........." |
| 17:26.21 | Kaso | hehe |
| 17:26.29 | Kaso | just had some crazy mem leak, ended up using 500mb of ram for like 2 tabs >.< had to kill process |
| 17:26.41 | art3mis | yer on nix? |
| 17:26.47 | Kaso | nope windows |
| 17:26.50 | art3mis | oh |
| 17:27.04 | art3mis | was gonna chant Iceweasel til you caved ;) |
| 17:27.15 | Kaso | heh |
| 17:29.24 | AnduinLothar | the first kill int eh wsg footage is epic too |
| 17:31.19 | malreth | bbl... |
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| 17:36.00 | JoshBorke | that was quick |
| 17:36.13 | JoshBorke | AnduinLothar: your movie killed my firefox |
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| 17:56.07 | tetraedr | hi everyone |
| 17:56.47 | tetraedr | Is there any way to track targets position* |
| 17:56.48 | tetraedr | ? |
| 17:57.07 | malreth | as in get it's x,y coords? |
| 17:57.13 | tetraedr | yes |
| 17:57.20 | malreth | what is your target? |
| 17:57.51 | tetraedr | enemy mob, which runs around me |
| 17:57.53 | malreth | no |
| 17:58.13 | tetraedr | any other ways? at least look spin to look at it |
| 17:58.17 | malreth | no |
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| 17:58.50 | malreth | any other questions? :) |
| 17:59.06 | Thunder_Child | do you hate life malreth? |
| 17:59.18 | malreth | life? don't talk to me about life... |
| 17:59.27 | Thunder_Child | ~life malreth |
| 17:59.55 | Thunder_Child | damit purl you're making me look bad |
| 18:00.09 | malreth | that's what purl is good at, apparently |
| 18:00.11 | cncfanatics | ~lash Thunder_Child |
| 18:00.15 | malreth | ~quote malreth |
| 18:00.23 | cncfanatics | hmmmmm, purl is on holiday ? |
| 18:00.28 | malreth | ~emulate malreth |
| 18:00.28 | purl | i never thought of myself as narcissistic but you know what? I AM! |
| 18:00.29 | malreth | doh |
| 18:00.31 | Thunder_Child | heh, your a stock? |
| 18:00.43 | malreth | yeah... i've been away for quite a while |
| 18:00.50 | malreth | that is funny, though |
| 18:00.55 | zenzelezz | courtesy of malreth... |
| 18:00.58 | zenzelezz | ~emulate zenzelezz |
| 18:00.59 | purl | OMG STOP TALKIN TO TEH BOT! |
| 18:01.25 | Thunder_Child | ~emulate Thunder_Child |
| 18:01.26 | purl | my parients said i could be come ANYTHING, so i became an asshole |
| 18:01.48 | cncfanatics | lol |
| 18:01.51 | cncfanatics | ~emulate cncfanatics |
| 18:01.52 | purl | wah wah |
| 18:01.54 | cncfanatics | wondering if mine is set |
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| 18:12.47 | batrick | ~emulate batrick |
| 18:12.55 | batrick | ah :( |
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| 18:25.54 | foxlit | How does stuff like nano/pico work with the commandline interface? |
| 18:26.32 | cog|work | it uses terminal controls, not command line |
| 18:26.34 | foxlit | (single line based on terminal dimensions then caret return to update the whole screen)? |
| 18:27.00 | foxlit | Any rtfm links for that? |
| 18:27.04 | cog|work | terminals are usually more flexible than simple command line with stdin & stdout |
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| 18:40.32 | buu | WHAT. |
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| 18:46.32 | Thunder_Child | wow, benders big score totally screws with every episode they made |
| 18:47.52 | Tierrie | in a good way or a bad way |
| 18:48.00 | Tierrie | because i want to get it |
| 18:48.00 | Thunder_Child | in an interesting way |
| 18:48.03 | Tierrie | well |
| 18:48.06 | Tierrie | let me put it this way |
| 18:48.08 | Tierrie | i love futurama |
| 18:48.15 | Tierrie | will i hate or love futurama after the movie |
| 18:48.29 | Thunder_Child | hmm...i'm going to go with.."love it even more" |
| 18:48.35 | Tierrie | cool |
| 18:48.40 | Tierrie | i love zoidberg |
| 18:48.42 | Tierrie | WOP WOP WOP! |
| 18:48.47 | Tierrie | does he go the wop wop wop? |
| 18:48.56 | Tierrie | who is your fav char? |
| 18:48.58 | Thunder_Child | its done in the fine fine tradition of futureama you have come to love |
| 18:49.03 | Thunder_Child | bender |
| 18:49.04 | Tierrie | lol cool |
| 18:49.06 | Tierrie | ... |
| 18:49.11 | Tierrie | bender's cool :) |
| 18:49.12 | Thunder_Child | us assholes stick together |
| 18:49.14 | Tierrie | but zoidberg is so cute :) |
| 18:49.16 | Tierrie | lol |
| 18:49.21 | Tierrie | bite my glorious golden ass! |
| 18:49.28 | Thunder_Child | indeed |
| 18:49.52 | Tierrie | but now |
| 18:50.07 | Tierrie | geesh i want to get it now :) |
| 18:51.46 | Thunder_Child | dosent come out for 6 days or something |
| 18:51.56 | Tierrie | Is it not said, in the Gospel of Bender, "Fine. I'll go build my own lunar lander! With blackjack! And hookers! In fact, forget the lunar lander! And the blackjack!" |
| 18:52.48 | Thunder_Child | indeed |
| 18:53.01 | dreamss | at the end everything works out |
| 18:53.14 | kergoth | ~emulate bender |
| 18:53.15 | purl | Well I don't have anything else planned for today, let's get drunk! |
| 18:53.25 | Thunder_Child | havent get there yet, only half way though |
| 18:53.41 | Thunder_Child | through* |
| 18:53.43 | Tierrie | I think I can easily say that the best shows in the world is Futurama, Heroes and Firefly |
| 18:53.53 | dreamss | pfft @ heroes |
| 18:53.53 | Thunder_Child | 1 & 3 i agree with |
| 18:53.59 | Tierrie | are you kidding me! |
| 18:54.03 | Tierrie | Heroes is c'est awesome |
| 18:54.21 | kergoth | heroes is great, but i dunno if i'd put it in the same list as firefly and futurama |
| 18:54.21 | Thunder_Child | heroes has to much drama for my tatets |
| 18:54.25 | Thunder_Child | tastes* |
| 18:54.33 | Xuerian | Night Elf Mohawk! |
| 18:54.48 | kergoth | hiro is awesome |
| 18:54.50 | dreamss | i would replace heroes with robot chicken |
| 18:54.58 | foxlit | Gr |
| 18:55.01 | foxlit | 2.3 did something to simpleHTML |
| 18:55.01 | Xuerian | Scrubs, Firefly (Heroes, Chuck) |
| 18:55.18 | foxlit | Getting odd amounts of padding between paragraph tags, is that configurable through something? |
| 18:55.32 | nevcairiel | firefly was great |
| 18:55.36 | nevcairiel | too bad only one season |
| 18:55.51 | zenzelezz | it looked to me like tooltips also god more space (due to padding?) in 2.3 |
| 18:56.07 | Thunder_Child | not even one season |
| 18:56.36 | krka | Tierrie: i'd personally add dexter and 24 season 1 to your list, otherwise i agree fully |
| 18:57.08 | kergoth | http://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/action_movies.png |
| 18:57.24 | Tierrie | Scrubs is very close to awesome but it is just a tad bit short |
| 18:57.27 | Thunder_Child | i would add house to the list |
| 18:57.29 | Tierrie | <-- owns all of Scrubs |
| 18:57.35 | krka | and for comedy, i'd have to go with coupling and scrubs |
| 18:57.38 | kergoth | i'd agree with adding house, good stuff |
| 18:57.40 | Tierrie | Coupling yay! |
| 18:57.49 | Tierrie | I'd add coupling too if they had more episodes |
| 18:57.59 | Tierrie | the problem with Coupling is the season 4 sucked and it was all way too short |
| 18:58.02 | Xuerian | Early scrubs episodes were better :( |
| 18:58.10 | krka | almost all coupling eps were pure awesome in their own way |
| 18:58.16 | Tierrie | yes they all were |
| 18:58.18 | Tierrie | except for season 4 |
| 18:58.21 | Xuerian | Then they got all "omg srrs bussninss" |
| 18:58.25 | krka | s4e1 was good! |
| 18:58.43 | Tierrie | anyone episode without jeff murdoch with his foot in his mouth != good |
| 18:59.11 | krka | i'm a big fan of janes antics and steves speeches personally :) |
| 19:00.01 | Tierrie | watch my soliloquey on coupling - patrick: "ich bein mein penis!" steve: "rant rant toilet rant porn", jeff: "one time i watched porn in the toilet with my penis" |
| 19:00.32 | krka | fairly accurate |
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| 19:01.15 | krka | jeff was funny in s4e1 even when he wasn't in it |
| 19:01.23 | krka | "no jeff, that was fairly optimistic of you, wasn't it" |
| 19:01.34 | Lunessa | ZOMG - Coupling. |
| 19:01.57 | Lunessa | "For he is Jeff, and there is no cure." |
| 19:02.08 | krka | i'd probably add veronica mars season 1 and 2 to my favourites list too |
| 19:02.19 | krka | no [known] cure |
| 19:02.53 | krka | season 3 was unfortunately not very good :( |
| 19:03.26 | Tierrie | "how about 'girl with two brains'?" |
| 19:03.45 | krka | three brains, patrick! |
| 19:03.57 | Tierrie | "three? oh yeah!" |
| 19:03.59 | Cairenn|afk | (9:43:31 AM) Polarina: dolby-wowi: Could you remove the Flash thing under the "FSF Member" section to the right? <== No |
| 19:04.07 | Tierrie | lol |
| 19:04.15 | Tierrie | harro can you remove ads from the site? :D |
| 19:04.19 | Cairenn|afk | or more correctly, yes he _could_, but no he won't |
| 19:04.20 | Lunessa | "What's that?" "It's a Giggle-Loop." "Looks like a stack." "Yeah, well. Can't very well call it a Giggle-Stack, no can you?" |
| 19:04.32 | malreth | ooh! |
| 19:04.35 | Cairenn|afk | it isn't an ad |
| 19:04.35 | malreth | coupling! |
| 19:05.04 | Thunder_Child | Cairenn|afk, cant it simply be minimised? |
| 19:05.07 | Tierrie | cairenn: oh :) |
| 19:05.12 | Tierrie | malreth: yesh! coupling! |
| 19:05.23 | krka | oh no, i've started a coupling epidemic |
| 19:05.37 | Cairenn|afk | Thunder_Child: just like (almost) every other thing on the front page of the site, indeed it can |
| 19:05.57 | Tierrie | "its Fork Wilma or Fork off!" |
| 19:06.10 | malreth | ooh.... so much tasty drama on the forumz |
| 19:06.40 | Tierrie | "i've got a girlfriend! she's real! she's somewhere between completely imaginary and a truck" |
| 19:06.55 | krka | sha'daim! |
| 19:06.59 | Polarina | Cairenn|afk: Why? |
| 19:07.08 | malreth | krka that was my favorite episode |
| 19:07.10 | Cairenn|afk | Polarina: why do you want it removed? |
| 19:07.14 | krka | malreth: mine too, i think |
| 19:07.18 | malreth | had the single most funny line in the entire show |
| 19:07.19 | krka | or jane and the truth snake |
| 19:07.22 | Polarina | Cairenn|afk: Let me show you. Wait. |
| 19:07.27 | malreth | Jeff: "Oh... You can read!" |
| 19:08.06 | Tierrie | picking a favorite quote or episode of coupling is like picking your favorite ice cream |
| 19:08.16 | Tierrie | "i'll have them all please" |
| 19:08.41 | Tierrie | i loved the funeral thing where they all 'played' reservoir dogs |
| 19:08.43 | krka | "on the downside, she won't be able to understand a thing i'll say" - "yeah, but on the upside, she wont understand a thing you're saying" |
| 19:08.48 | Tierrie | lol |
| 19:09.23 | krka | i demand that everyone here that hasn't seen coupling yet, go see it |
| 19:09.39 | krka | "sausages, sausages, sausages... " - "sausages" |
| 19:09.50 | Polarina | Cairenn|afk: http://www.2and2.net/files/4743313c1770a.png |
| 19:10.06 | Thunder_Child | krka..not gonna happen |
| 19:10.15 | krka | your loss! |
| 19:10.24 | Tierrie | TC: You haven't seen it? |
| 19:10.25 | Thunder_Child | maybe |
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| 19:10.33 | Thunder_Child | Tierrie, no |
| 19:10.45 | Tierrie | TC: dude, we've talked about all the best shows and we all recommend coupling |
| 19:11.16 | Tierrie | TC: how can you not watch it? its like saying "your taste sucks (which isn't true because we like the same stuff)" |
| 19:12.20 | Cairenn|afk | Polarina: so rather than just suggesting that there may be a [extremely] slight problem with it, you'd ask us to pull a PSA from Blizz? |
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| 19:12.25 | Shirik|Ecole | o.o |
| 19:12.27 | Thunder_Child | pfft, your tase does suck |
| 19:12.32 | malreth | Shirik|Ecole: |
| 19:12.33 | Thunder_Child | taste* |
| 19:12.40 | malreth | oh |
| 19:12.43 | malreth | nm |
| 19:12.59 | Polarina | Cairenn: I see no purpose with using Flash.. |
| 19:13.07 | Tierrie | uh |
| 19:13.09 | Cairenn | Polarina: talk to Blizzard, they supplied it |
| 19:13.15 | Polarina | Cairenn: ... |
| 19:13.20 | Cairenn | Polarina: ... |
| 19:13.22 | malreth | Shirik|Ecole: http://lua-users.org/wiki/VarargTheSecondClassCitizen -- "A variant noted by Shirik is..." |
| 19:13.32 | malreth | that you? |
| 19:13.44 | Tierrie | Polarina: are you talking about the "Blizzard is Hiring" sign or the "Relational DKP" sign? |
| 19:14.05 | Thunder_Child | Tierrie, blizz is hiring, since i dont think blizz supplied the other |
| 19:14.19 | Polarina | Tierrie: The Flash thing is over the dynamic tool-tip. |
| 19:14.23 | Shirik|Ecole | wha |
| 19:14.25 | Shirik|Ecole | how did that get there? |
| 19:14.38 | malreth | dunno |
| 19:14.47 | Tierrie | Polarina: oh well, as far as things goes, I think blizzard triumphs all |
| 19:14.48 | Shirik|Ecole | people are hijacking my brain >< |
| 19:14.59 | Thunder_Child | dangerous |
| 19:15.06 | Shirik|Ecole | well I frequent the #lua channel, it's likely I said something, someone picked it up and put it there |
| 19:15.16 | malreth | heh! |
| 19:15.40 | malreth | came across it while looking up a solution for the curry problem |
| 19:17.16 | Shirik|Ecole | also internet from airport = teh slow!! |
| 19:17.40 | malreth | on that page, the solution for issue 4 can be used for the guy's curry function |
| 19:18.31 | malreth | hmm... except it's recursive |
| 19:18.44 | Shirik|Ecole | you will likely find that in these types of things :) |
| 19:18.52 | Polarina | Cairenn: If I sign up for premium membership, does that Blizzard provided flash thing disappear once and for all? |
| 19:18.57 | Cairenn | no |
| 19:19.06 | Shirik|Ecole | blizzard provided flash thing? |
| 19:19.09 | foxlit | Nobody noticed anything about SimpleHTML and paragraph tagging? |
| 19:19.13 | Polarina | Cairenn: DAMIT! |
| 19:19.20 | foxlit | tagging=margins |
| 19:19.23 | malreth | HEY! |
| 19:19.30 | malreth | that's spelled DAMN IT |
| 19:19.54 | Shirik|Ecole | Cairenn <3 |
| 19:19.59 | malreth | now try that again except swear correctly |
| 19:20.02 | Cairenn | it's a PSA by Blizzard - as I said, instead of asking us to pull it, point out that it's overlapping the dynamic tooltip |
| 19:20.21 | Polarina | Cairenn: It's overlapping the dynamic tooltip. :'( |
| 19:20.31 | Cairenn | now, see, was that so hard? |
| 19:20.46 | Cairenn | ;) |
| 19:20.46 | Polarina | Cairenn: To be honest, yes... |
| 19:21.01 | malreth | it's always hard to do the right thing |
| 19:21.04 | malreth | :'( |
| 19:21.14 | Shirik|Ecole | cry @ 22.8KB/sec! |
| 19:21.20 | foxlit | malreth: "things that are easy are always wrong"? |
| 19:21.33 | Shirik|Ecole | I need my codes so I can do work while on plane =( |
| 19:21.41 | Polarina | foxlit: Two wrongs don't make one right. |
| 19:22.21 | foxlit | Polarina: Two nots cancel out |
| 19:22.39 | Thunder_Child | not bad "Fry's Electronics is offering a 20-inch iMac with a 2.4GHz Core 2 Duo processor for $794." |
| 19:23.05 | Polarina | GIMMEM THAT CPU! |
| 19:23.16 | Polarina | s/GIMMEM/GIMME/ |
| 19:23.57 | Xuerian | dd |
| 19:24.02 | Xuerian | (cup size) |
| 19:24.07 | Xuerian | ((of cpu)) |
| 19:24.14 | Xuerian | ((( = win))) |
| 19:24.23 | malreth | my fiancee is a D-cup |
| 19:24.32 | malreth | i've compared them so i know for sure |
| 19:24.38 | Xuerian | XD |
| 19:25.11 | malreth | i'm so glad she doesn't know how to use irc... i'd be so dead |
| 19:25.25 | sag_ich_nicht | chat sticky function |
| 19:25.26 | sag_ich_nicht | halp |
| 19:25.53 | malreth | make sure you wash your functions |
| 19:25.58 | malreth | that'll keep them from sticking |
| 19:26.58 | foxlit | P => Q <=> not Q => P |
| 19:27.15 | sag_ich_nicht | no i mean |
| 19:27.21 | Shirik|Ecole | foxlit: P => Q <=> not Q => not P |
| 19:27.22 | sag_ich_nicht | what's the function for making a channel sticka |
| 19:27.23 | sag_ich_nicht | *sticky |
| 19:27.27 | sag_ich_nicht | i can't find it |
| 19:27.28 | sag_ich_nicht | -_- |
| 19:27.29 | foxlit | Hah, someone noticed! |
| 19:27.38 | Shirik|Ecole | = |
| 19:27.39 | Shirik|Ecole | =P |
| 19:27.40 | malreth | i think you just assign a value to a variable |
| 19:27.55 | Shirik|Ecole | I know my discrete structures! |
| 19:27.57 | sag_ich_nicht | well what variable then :P |
| 19:27.58 | Shirik|Ecole | I aced that class yo |
| 19:27.59 | malreth | i have to look it up... dunno it off the top of my head |
| 19:28.19 | sag_ich_nicht | lemme check maybe i'll find it in chatbars code |
| 19:29.17 | sag_ich_nicht | ... |
| 19:29.25 | sag_ich_nicht | your code lacks comments |
| 19:29.26 | sag_ich_nicht | like |
| 19:29.29 | sag_ich_nicht | a lot of them. |
| 19:29.35 | malreth | ChatTypeInfo['CHANNEL'].sticky = 1 |
| 19:29.45 | malreth | will make channel chat sticky |
| 19:29.47 | sag_ich_nicht | thanks malreth, just found it |
| 19:29.51 | foxlit | Nobody knows anything about SimpleHTML paragraph margins? |
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| 19:37.01 | malreth | woo!!! |
| 19:37.11 | malreth | the drama gets really tasty |
| 19:38.28 | Cairenn | it's fun how he is trying to shift the focus |
| 19:38.29 | malreth | and godwin's law was invoked |
| 19:39.21 | malreth | i was all ready to cut him down when he played the IGE card on you but the terms of my parole forbid me from possessing any weapons |
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| 19:44.48 | Polarina | WTF?!? GetLocale() returns "enUS" on a enGB client!!! |
| 19:45.45 | Lunessa | Cairenn: What am I missing? |
| 19:46.01 | malreth | Polarina: that's right! |
| 19:46.11 | malreth | because we run the world |
| 19:46.19 | malreth | woot! |
| 19:46.22 | Cairenn | malreth: meh |
| 19:46.50 | Polarina | malreth: Why does that happen? |
| 19:46.59 | malreth | WWII |
| 19:47.05 | Polarina | :'( |
| 19:47.12 | malreth | don't blame me |
| 19:47.19 | malreth | i didn't write history |
| 19:47.25 | malreth | but my country sure did! |
| 19:47.29 | malreth | BWAH HA HA! |
| 19:47.34 | malreth | ok... i stop now |
| 19:47.46 | malreth | purl, malreth |
| 19:47.47 | purl | malreth scares me |
| 19:48.45 | Polarina | ~emulate polarina |
| 19:48.45 | purl | ACTION does a nice little dance |
| 19:48.51 | Polarina | purl: :) |
| 19:48.52 | purl | (: |
| 19:49.47 | malreth | anyways, that's interesting that getlocale returns that |
| 19:50.31 | zenzelezz | Polarina: it happens because they don't bother making tiny language changes between English-language clients |
| 19:50.54 | Shirik|Ecole | |Jelly|Laptop: ping? |
| 19:51.06 | malreth | zenzelezz: you mean 'bouther' |
| 19:51.10 | Polarina | malreth: It's interesting that Blizzard sees absolutely no difference between British and American. They just say "We do not provide English to English translations!" |
| 19:51.12 | malreth | :D |
| 19:51.30 | Polarina | malreth: In British, we say bother, not bouther. |
| 19:51.33 | zenzelezz | why is that interesting? |
| 19:51.43 | malreth | Polarina: i know... i'm silly |
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| 19:51.56 | Lunessa | Polarina: It's wise on their part. Not worth the effort to change a few dozen spellings, I mean, really. |
| 19:52.02 | zenzelezz | there's no singificant cultural differences that matter for the game |
| 19:52.20 | zenzelezz | nor significant |
| 19:53.28 | Cairenn | Lunessa: not much, drama from yesterday |
| 19:53.53 | Lunessa | Oh. Entertaining? Something that would help the dull hours in the office pass by? |
| 19:54.26 | malreth | Polarina: my fiancee demands you answer her question... |
| 19:54.47 | Polarina | malreth: ? |
| 19:54.53 | malreth | it seems years ago she borrowed a Harry Potter book from your side of the pond |
| 19:55.33 | Polarina | malreth: Pound. |
| 19:55.33 | malreth | so little language differences weren't localized for teh amarican audience |
| 19:55.33 | malreth | Polarina: :D |
| 19:55.38 | Polarina | malreth: Or wait, no, it's pond. |
| 19:55.42 | malreth | anyways, she's asking what a 'smart party' is |
| 19:55.49 | Lunessa | NM, I found it. |
| 19:56.16 | zenzelezz | malreth: it's a rumor; the closest you get is a guild run |
| 19:56.23 | Cairenn | Lunessa: this one for amusement: http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=2971962952&sid=1 this one for drama: http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=2968233148&sid=1 |
| 19:56.28 | Shirik|Ecole | ok flight boarding, see you all later |
| 19:56.57 | Lunessa | I <3 U Cairenn |
| 19:56.58 | Cairenn | later Shirik|Ecole |
| 19:57.04 | Lunessa | Have a safe one. |
| 19:57.05 | malreth | she doesn't understand... but things like celery confuse her |
| 19:57.18 | Cairenn | carrot juice is murder |
| 19:58.57 | malreth | broccoli feels pain |
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| 20:04.09 | malreth | our dog likes to walk on our cat |
| 20:04.23 | malreth | it's like he doesn't see the cat as anything more than a potato |
| 20:04.53 | malreth | dog: 'ooh ooh... pet me' [stomp stomp stomp] |
| 20:05.01 | malreth | cat: mewwww~~~~ |
| 20:08.55 | dreamss | u guys seen the tf2 manual? |
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| 20:09.22 | malreth | JoshBorke: http://article.gmane.org/gmane.comp.lang.lua.general/36610 |
| 20:09.24 | malreth | gotta go... |
| 20:09.27 | malreth | bbl |
| 20:12.46 | foxlit | Okay, more on evil simplehtml issues |
| 20:12.50 | foxlit | <br/> is huge! |
| 20:12.55 | Rayne | Is it bad that I got into a fight with someone and I dont feel bad at all, because I knew I was right, they knew it and theyre in a total depression denial over it> |
| 20:13.09 | foxlit | The vertical space provided by it is way more than a single line of normal text. |
| 20:13.13 | foxlit | Wonder how I fix that |
| 20:13.28 | foxlit | (new in 2.3, btw) |
| 20:20.03 | Polarina | foxlit: Use the <line> and </line> tags. |
| 20:20.36 | foxlit | Polarina: just trolling, or is that an actual suggestion? :) |
| 20:21.13 | Polarina | foxlit: Actual suggestion. W3C are removing the <br> tag from the web standard and replacing it with the <line> tag. |
| 20:21.34 | Polarina | foxlit: They are also removing <b>, <i>, <u> and <a>. |
| 20:21.49 | foxlit | Ah, then you're just ignorant of the context. |
| 20:22.00 | Polarina | foxlit: It's true! |
| 20:22.04 | Polarina | foxlit: They really are! |
| 20:22.23 | foxlit | I'm not interested in HTML 5 or the strict DTDs of the last few (X)HTML revisions |
| 20:22.42 | Polarina | foxlit: They abandoned HTML. |
| 20:22.52 | batrick | I wonder what license I should start using after all this crap about WoWUI |
| 20:23.09 | Polarina | batrick: GPL. Don't listen to that crap. |
| 20:23.26 | batrick | I don't want my addons being hosted on sites where users get keyloggers |
| 20:23.27 | batrick | : / |
| 20:23.39 | foxlit | Don't grant permission to redistribute |
| 20:23.39 | Polarina | batrick: Don't worry about that. :) |
| 20:24.41 | Polarina | batrick: In fact, they can't add a keylogger your ZIP file or some, unless the keylogger is also GPL. |
| 20:24.51 | batrick | I like the idea of the GPL, but I don't like my software being misrepresented |
| 20:25.11 | batrick | it sounds like these people would have no ethical issues with modifying urls in my readmes etc. |
| 20:25.13 | Polarina | batrick: They still have to give you all the credit for the code. |
| 20:25.14 | zenzelezz | if you make a keylogger, I don't suspect you'll feel bound to the terms of a GPL |
| 20:25.48 | foxlit | That's not a valid argument |
| 20:26.29 | MentalPower | "[16:24:16]<Polarina>batrick: In fact, they can't add a keylogger your ZIP file or some, unless the keylogger is also GPL." actually they can, even if the keylogger is not GPL |
| 20:26.36 | zenzelezz | argument for what? I'm just stating my belief, not saying he should or shouldn't use licence X |
| 20:26.56 | MentalPower | the only restraint is that the non-GPl keylogger not communicate directly with the GPL stuff |
| 20:26.56 | foxlit | For not using GPL :) |
| 20:27.08 | zenzelezz | and as I said I wasn't arguing one way or the other |
| 20:27.30 | foxlit | You asked. |
| 20:27.36 | Polarina | batrick: However, when you change the licence for the addon, you are not allowed to take away the rights users have (They still may use your addon under the GPL, but you may restrict newer versions to some other licence). |
| 20:28.18 | batrick | I'm aware I cannot change the distribution license for previous versions of my addon |
| 20:28.36 | foxlit | Sure you can |
| 20:28.54 | batrick | Um no you can't |
| 20:28.55 | Polarina | foxlit: Yes, he can, but users have to have the ability to still use the addon under the GPL. |
| 20:29.07 | foxlit | So don't ship code under the GPL. |
| 20:29.14 | Polarina | foxlit: He already have. |
| 20:29.18 | batrick | you're evading my problem |
| 20:29.22 | Cairenn | Polarina: re the Blizz PSA overlapping the dynamic tooltips - dolby-wowi has fixed it |
| 20:29.26 | batrick | I'm looking for a more restrictive license |
| 20:29.35 | Polarina | Cairenn: :D |
| 20:29.37 | batrick | simply stating that it can't be redistributed is not what I want |
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| 20:29.57 | MentalPower | batrick: what exactly are you looking for in a license? |
| 20:30.07 | Polarina | Cairenn: No he haven't... |
| 20:30.29 | batrick | i'm not completely sure |
| 20:30.47 | Cairenn | Polarina: works fine for me now |
| 20:31.01 | Polarina | Cairenn: Not to me, I cleared the browser cache and still the same. |
| 20:31.14 | batrick | I was looking for suggestions |
| 20:31.40 | foxlit | batrick: Then yeah, you're right, you can't get rid of GPL for previous versions you've released. |
| 20:31.45 | Polarina | batrick: GPL. :) |
| 20:31.55 | batrick | I don't mind that |
| 20:32.08 | batrick | if they post old versions of my addon that seems counterproductive |
| 20:32.20 | Cairenn | batrick: for info - if you don't include any license at all, by default your creation is under the strictest copyright protections possible - no modification, no redistribution, nothing, without your express and explicit permission |
| 20:32.35 | batrick | how do I know that? |
| 20:32.41 | batrick | other than by you telling me :D |
| 20:32.44 | Cairenn | because that's copyright law |
| 20:32.46 | Polarina | Cairenn: Not even modifications for personal use? |
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| 20:33.46 | cog|work | batrick: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Berne_Convention_for_the_Protection_of_Literary_and_Artistic_Works |
| 20:34.08 | cog|work | "As soon as a work is "fixed", that is, written or recorded on some physical medium, its author is automatically entitled to all copyrights in the work and to any derivative works, unless and until the author explicitly disclaims them or until the copyright expires." |
| 20:34.25 | zenzelezz | the Blizzard flash works for me on Windows; on Linux it still seems to overlap (but I've had Flash issues there before) |
| 20:34.53 | batrick | cog|work: thanks |
| 20:35.23 | Cairenn | cog|work: thanks, I didn't have the link at my finger tips |
| 20:35.40 | cog|work | I've had to use it quite a bit in the last few days :P |
| 20:35.42 | Saint-N | is anyone a tech consultant? |
| 20:35.47 | Saint-N | i have a elgal question |
| 20:35.48 | Cairenn | cog|work: heh, indeed |
| 20:35.49 | Saint-N | legal |
| 20:37.37 | zenzelezz | you could try Joeyjoejoe777 |
| 20:38.04 | cog|work | ~win zenzelezz |
| 20:38.05 | purl | Congratulations, zenzelezz! You have won a one way ticket to baghdad! |
| 20:38.09 | Saint-N | if a client terminates a contract or busniess dealings with a consultant and at that momment the client is hosting a server that has no bearing on the network as a whole and is completely standalone, can the consultant charge a daily "fee" for loss of business while that server is diconnected and witheld from being returned to the consultant until the client can pick up a new consultant to verify that it doesnt impact(keeping in mind that |
| 20:38.38 | Cairenn | cut off at "(keeping in mind that" |
| 20:38.54 | Saint-N | that the server is presently turned off and or disconnected from the internet |
| 20:39.19 | cog|work | Saint-N: You know what i'd do? I'd bill them and if they don't want to pay consult a lawyer :P |
| 20:39.21 | Saint-N | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:40.06 | Saint-N | i think im going to i called one of my other clients who i use the remote server access to fix and trouble shoot thier machines with and hes not impressed at all that there is a week period of time that if they crash there is NOTHING i can do about it |
| 20:40.50 | Saint-N | particularly when my former client was being a child about terminating the agreement anyways |
| 20:42.38 | Saint-N | she terminated it because "i hung up on her after she started screaming and swearing at me" after i told her that the internet wasnt down |
| 20:42.41 | Polarina | Could someone provide some localisations for me? |
| 20:43.32 | batrick | in what lol |
| 20:43.38 | MentalPower | Polarina: if it were to spanish I could, but I'm behind on that department ATM. I still owe someone some translations |
| 20:43.52 | Polarina | Oh... |
| 20:45.03 | Polarina | If anyone could "pastey" a translation back to me, it would be greatly appreciated. http://rafb.net/p/7Ddtie34.html |
| 20:46.27 | Cairenn | Polarina: into what language? |
| 20:46.44 | Polarina | Cairenn: All languages WoW has if possible. :P *grin* |
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| 20:49.30 | Tuller | hrm, maybe now I'll be able to see what I'm typing :P |
| 20:49.32 | Tuller | there we go |
| 20:49.38 | Polarina | :) |
| 20:49.43 | batrick | Polarina: you could probably use some free translator online to get some generic translations until someone corrects them |
| 20:50.02 | Polarina | batrick: THEY SUCK BIG FAT A**! |
| 20:50.04 | foxlit | That sets the stage for hilarity! |
| 20:50.14 | batrick | in my experience they are a lot better than your foreign language teacher may lead you to believe |
| 20:50.15 | foxlit | Polarina: think of it as a bonus |
| 20:50.37 | foxlit | It's better to read broken english (that's at least comical) than to have plain chinese thrown at you |
| 20:51.01 | Polarina | foxlit: Think of it as a translator with an IQ 12. |
| 20:51.08 | Polarina | If not lower... |
| 20:51.26 | foxlit | The way IQ works, you don't really have to go below 70 |
| 20:51.30 | batrick | they translate simple sentences very well |
| 20:51.41 | batrick | you're being pretty silly |
| 20:51.56 | batrick | it's when you give them compound sentences with many phrases do they fuck up |
| 20:53.02 | Polarina | batrick: I have tried these translators and they translate things very silly. Translating from Icelandic to English this sentence: |
| 20:53.02 | Polarina | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:53.02 | Polarina | <PROTECTED> |
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| 20:53.57 | Gilial | Sounds fine. >.> |
| 20:54.06 | batrick | what site are you using |
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| 20:54.27 | batrick | try "freetranslation.com" |
| 20:54.41 | batrick | it does a pretty good job in my experience with spanish |
| 20:54.58 | Taeri | RTFPN = Read the fucking patch notes? :P |
| 20:55.04 | Polarina | batrick: It doesn't provide icelandic. |
| 20:55.06 | batrick | fine FINE |
| 20:55.09 | batrick | patch notes |
| 20:55.10 | zenzelezz | indeed Taeri |
| 20:55.23 | batrick | who the hell speaks icelandic? |
| 20:55.26 | batrick | !g icelandic |
| 20:55.27 | batbot | batrick: Icelandic language - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Icelandic_language> |
| 20:55.49 | Taeri | Icelandic is funky. |
| 20:56.36 | Gilial | This has Icelandic: http://www.tranexp.com:2000/Translate/result.shtml |
| 20:57.20 | Polarina | Even more filly. "Who river essa book?" |
| 20:57.39 | zenzelezz | you get what you pay for |
| 20:57.46 | zenzelezz | commercial translators do a better job |
| 20:58.26 | Mike-N-Go | ~RTFPN |
| 20:58.26 | purl | read the frigging patch notes |
| 20:58.35 | batrick | often people throw butchered english at them and wonder why they got a 0 on their spanish essay |
| 20:59.34 | batrick | they actually make excellent on the fly dictionaries |
| 20:59.50 | Polarina | Gilial: It can't even translate correctly the simplest sentences I can make up. |
| 21:01.06 | Gilial | Polarina: I've never used it. A friend swears by it for Latin, but neither of us have used Icelandic. I didn't even know WoW had an Icelandic setting. |
| 21:01.25 | Polarina | Gilial: WoW doesn't. |
| 21:02.07 | Gilial | Polarina: Oh. You said you wanted all the languages WoW supports. Just assumed. My bad. |
| 21:03.38 | batrick | Polarina: people will be moore inclined to fix a couple BAD translations than do every translation for you |
| 21:04.00 | Polarina | batrick: These are just four short sentences.. |
| 21:04.15 | Gilial | *Tangent* Anyone know if there's a simple API function to check if there's an item equipped in a specific slot by the InventorySlotName data-type? |
| 21:04.22 | batrick | I don't see the problem, I told you they translate simple sentences well |
| 21:05.04 | batrick | I dont' understand why you are testing these translators with languages like icelandic |
| 21:09.18 | sag_ich_nicht | god damn it |
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| 21:09.22 | sag_ich_nicht | lurker just managed to do the impossible |
| 21:09.27 | sag_ich_nicht | it dropped my FPS below 60 |
| 21:09.30 | sag_ich_nicht | son of a bitch |
| 21:09.48 | MentalPower | sag_ich_nicht: why are you so angry all the time? |
| 21:10.09 | sag_ich_nicht | MentalPower because i am lonely |
| 21:10.11 | sag_ich_nicht | :( |
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| 21:10.41 | MentalPower | well, you're not going to get much company here, especially with that attitude |
| 21:12.08 | Gilial | So. No function that I can simply pass a value of the InventorySlotName data-type and get a boolean-style result, depending on wether or not something is equipped in the slot? :/ |
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| 21:14.38 | AnduinLothar | lol JoshBorke, killed it? |
| 21:14.54 | AnduinLothar | sag_ich_nicht: why comment? is it not perfectly readable? |
| 21:14.58 | AnduinLothar | :P |
| 21:15.24 | JoshBorke | AnduinLothar: yea, ff crashed when i tried to play it |
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| 21:15.46 | AnduinLothar | that's no good |
| 21:16.20 | AnduinLothar | odd... increasing the bps decreased the quality |
| 21:16.21 | Lunessa | Re: Commenting Code - I comment not for others, but for myself - 'cause 6 moths ago, I'll read my code and wonder what the fuck I was thinking. |
| 21:16.59 | AnduinLothar | eh. reading code is one of my specialties. i can usually decipher other people's code too |
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| 21:32.10 | Cairenn | Lunessa: so, was that enough reading material for you? |
| 21:33.01 | Lunessa | Cairenn: Heh, yeah. And I got to eat pie while reading it, and got a ping from you. My day is triply blessed. |
| 21:33.10 | Cairenn | :) |
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| 21:37.13 | Polarina | When will Blizzard phorbid dueling in Ironforge? |
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| 21:38.51 | deltron | never |
| 21:39.06 | deltron | err IN ironforge or outside? |
| 21:39.18 | Polarina | Inside. |
| 21:39.54 | AnduinLothar | where's the best place to host my movie for streaming? |
| 21:40.09 | deltron | you can duel inside ironforge? |
| 21:40.21 | deltron | what a crock, you can't duel inside org :( |
| 21:41.13 | MentalPower | you can duel inside IF only if you know the right place |
| 21:41.30 | MentalPower | its a special corner that both chars need to be in in order to alow a diel |
| 21:41.37 | MentalPower | s/diel/duel/ |
| 21:43.10 | sag_ich_nicht | mhm |
| 21:43.11 | sag_ich_nicht | AnduinLothar |
| 21:43.18 | sag_ich_nicht | can the knockback at lurker occur during spout? |
| 21:43.30 | AnduinLothar | no |
| 21:43.47 | AnduinLothar | but you could get frost bolted or whatever that's called |
| 21:44.12 | sag_ich_nicht | because i definitively just got knockbacked -.- |
| 21:44.15 | sag_ich_nicht | spout |
| 21:44.20 | sag_ich_nicht | one of the adds still alive |
| 21:44.22 | sag_ich_nicht | i run to it |
| 21:44.27 | sag_ich_nicht | suddently can't move |
| 21:44.41 | Rayne | "Im William Shatner, and im a Shaman." |
| 21:44.43 | sag_ich_nicht | and then spout hits me |
| 21:44.43 | sag_ich_nicht | :( |
| 21:46.25 | MentalPower | "I'm Mr T, and I'm a Night Elf Mohawk" |
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| 21:59.16 | Lunessa | *sigh* forums.worldofwarcraft.com keeps killing my session. |
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| 22:06.09 | kergoth | hmm, wonder if the crusade darkmoon card is worth picking up for a rogue |
| 22:07.05 | malreth | i want kitten mittens now! |
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| 22:07.55 | Shirik|Ecole | so this is amusing |
| 22:08.24 | Shirik|Ecole | to get onto this network at atlanta, you "have to download this software which will authenticate and connect you to our network" |
| 22:08.27 | Shirik|Ecole | I clicked cancel |
| 22:08.33 | Shirik|Ecole | I'm fairly certain I'm here |
| 22:09.04 | Cide | you're not |
| 22:09.07 | Shirik|Ecole | oh =( |
| 22:09.08 | Cide | download it and connect properly |
| 22:09.19 | Shirik|Ecole | bah, fine |
| 22:10.35 | Saint-N | bahahahhaha |
| 22:11.18 | Saint-N | i just had the previous client tell me that she doesnt want to return it to me until she can verify that its not effecting the network, i said legally it's my property you can't with hold it for ANY reason, so until it's returned im charging you 150/day |
| 22:11.24 | sag_ich_nicht | mhm |
| 22:11.35 | Saint-N | "i wont authorize that" "thats why im billing to your bosses directly and explaining WHY they are getting it |
| 22:12.11 | Saint-N | "i dont care if MY server was your entire network backbone, simple fact is that it's mine, you fired me so it's not my problem if you lose the network |
| 22:12.11 | Shirik|Ecole | awesome |
| 22:12.31 | Shirik|Ecole | lol |
| 22:12.39 | malreth | kmittens |
| 22:12.41 | Shirik|Ecole | they fired you and don't want to lose services you provided? |
| 22:12.43 | Shirik|Ecole | that's priceless |
| 22:12.46 | Saint-N | thats all im saying until i pick it up on tuesday |
| 22:12.48 | Saint-N | heh yeah |
| 22:12.59 | Saint-N | insstead of being mature and professional about it too |
| 22:14.57 | sag_ich_nicht | the other retribution paladin in my raid just managed to do something weird |
| 22:15.02 | sag_ich_nicht | he was in damage done above me, but below me in dps |
| 22:15.27 | malreth | he did more damage but in a longer amount of time |
| 22:15.31 | Shirik|Ecole | "the other retribution paladin" |
| 22:15.34 | Shirik|Ecole | that implies you have more than one |
| 22:16.02 | malreth | dps is damage/time |
| 22:16.11 | Shirik|Ecole | and sag_ich_nicht, that just means you fail at staying alive |
| 22:16.15 | Shirik|Ecole | or staying in combat, one of the two |
| 22:16.18 | Shirik|Ecole | but most likely staying alive |
| 22:16.23 | malreth | if damage is larger but damage/time is less than yours then his time must be greater |
| 22:18.13 | Shirik|Ecole | VocalServer.obj : error LNK2019: unresolved external symbol "public: virtual __thiscall CSocketManager::~CSocketManager(void)" (??1CSocketManager@@UAE@XZ) referenced in function _wWinMain@16 |
| 22:18.14 | Lunessa | I just saw the TV spots with Shatner and Mr. T. I think I hurt something laughing so hard. |
| 22:18.18 | Shirik|Ecole | you lie, I'm looking at it right now! |
| 22:18.23 | Shirik|Ecole | die, visual studio -_- |
| 22:19.07 | zenzelezz | is this code that used to work? Wizard code? Tutorial? |
| 22:19.20 | Shirik|Ecole | this is code that works on visual studio 2007 |
| 22:19.22 | Shirik|Ecole | 2008* |
| 22:19.29 | Shirik|Ecole | but apparently doesn't work on my laptop, VS 2003 |
| 22:19.44 | zenzelezz | that's two generations apart |
| 22:19.47 | Shirik|Ecole | oh |
| 22:19.49 | Shirik|Ecole | dododo |
| 22:19.54 | Shirik|Ecole | adding files to project helps >.> |
| 22:20.00 | zenzelezz | that too |
| 22:21.40 | Shirik|Ecole | I do however have a question for anyone that knows C++ |
| 22:22.58 | zenzelezz | I'm mediocre |
| 22:26.43 | dylanm | Shoot. |
| 22:26.50 | Shirik|Ecole | oh sorry, wasn't watching the channel, heh |
| 22:26.55 | Shirik|Ecole | ok, this warning: warning C4150: deletion of pointer to incomplete type 'CIo'; no destructor called |
| 22:27.02 | Shirik|Ecole | this occurs on the following line: |
| 22:27.11 | Shirik|Ecole | delete io[i]; |
| 22:27.33 | Shirik|Ecole | io is of type CIo**, which is an abstract class which has several child classes |
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| 22:27.57 | Shirik|Ecole | the question becomes why exactly is it telling me the destructor will not be called |
| 22:28.43 | sag_ich_nicht | [23:16] <Shirik|Ecole> and sag_ich_nicht, that just means you fail at staying alive <--i was alive and in combat :P |
| 22:29.00 | Shirik|Ecole | the only way what you said is possible is that your total combat time is less than his |
| 22:29.05 | Shirik|Ecole | or hax |
| 22:29.07 | sag_ich_nicht | weird |
| 22:29.12 | sag_ich_nicht | i claim a sync problem |
| 22:35.14 | AnduinLothar | what's c regex for one or none? |
| 22:36.21 | zenzelezz | don't think there is a "C" regexp, but wikipedia says ? is zero or one |
| 22:36.32 | AnduinLothar | mmm not working in sed |
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| 22:37.21 | AnduinLothar | ah \? |
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| 22:39.05 | lolinternet | SPLITZ |
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| 22:41.16 | Mike-N-Go | Take a look at the first image, it says "Hail" http://worldofwarcraft.com/downloads/ssotd/#1142 |
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| 22:43.05 | Shirik|Ecole | 172:382:44 » Netsplit - 16 quits 2‹zelazny.freenode.net ‹-› irc.freenode.net2› |
| 22:43.07 | Shirik|Ecole | teh cry |
| 22:43.23 | Shirik|Ecole | 16 frnds go bye bye |
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| 22:46.43 | Shirik|Ecole | sooo |
| 22:46.56 | Shirik|Ecole | nobody has the solution to my C++ question =( |
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| 22:47.59 | Bejitt | Shirik|Ecole: what was it? |
| 22:48.05 | zenzelezz | "The delete operator is called to delete a type that was declared but not defined, so the compiler cannot find a destructor." |
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| 22:49.01 | zenzelezz | sounds like one of your classes is indeed incomplete |
| 22:49.21 | Bejitt | is it a derived class? |
| 22:49.26 | Shirik|Ecole | yeah I just figured it out actually |
| 22:49.28 | Shirik|Ecole | no, it's a base class |
| 22:49.31 | Bejitt | ah |
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| 22:52.45 | Shirik|Ecole | the issue was I said "class CIo;" instead of including the header |
| 22:52.54 | Shirik|Ecole | I used to have a reason for that, but that reason no longer exists, and I needed the header otherwise it doesn't know where the destructor is |
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| 22:59.26 | Fumler | anyone know how I can change texture on standard blizz unit frames? |
| 23:02.10 | Shirik|Ecole | SetTexture() ? |
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| 23:03.29 | Shirik|Ecole | stop leaving us, fools |
| 23:03.29 | Shirik|Ecole | l2irc |
| 23:04.26 | Shirik|Ecole | lots of things |
| 23:04.26 | Shirik|Ecole | in many cases it's an intentional decision by an admin when he sees some kind of congestion or problem on the network |
| 23:04.26 | Shirik|Ecole | though that's typically not repeated over and over :) |
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| 23:04.26 | Fumler | anyone know how I can change texture on standard blizz unit frames? |
| 23:04.26 | Shirik|Ecole | 172:592:24 12‹Fumler12› anyone know how I can change texture on standard blizz unit frames? |
| 23:04.26 | Shirik|Ecole | 182:002:39 12‹Shirik|Ecole12› SetTexture() ? |
| 23:04.26 | Mike-N-Go | And to free up traffic for non-ildlers? |
| 23:04.26 | Fumler | Shirik|Ecole sorry didnt see :) |
| 23:04.26 | Shirik|Ecole | well it's not kicking anyone from the network |
| 23:04.26 | Mike-N-Go | Fumler: Look up "Skinner" |
| 23:04.26 | Fumler | I don't want skinner.. |
| 23:04.26 | Shirik|Ecole | it's just splitting two servers between each other |
| 23:04.26 | Mike-N-Go | Fumler: It is an addon. |
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| 23:04.32 | Fumler | Mike-N-Go, I know, thanks.. |
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| 23:04.32 | Shirik|Ecole | for example, when there is severe traffic or congestion between two servers, they will timeout from each other |
| 23:04.32 | Shirik|Ecole | which results in the network being split in two |
| 23:05.23 | Shirik|Ecole | this is, again, only one of many possible things that can happen |
| 23:05.24 | Fumler | Shirik|Ecole could you explain a bit more? |
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| 23:05.24 | Shirik|Ecole | http://www.wowwiki.com/Widget_API |
| 23:05.39 | Shirik|Ecole | Frame:SetTexture() |
| 23:06.11 | Fumler | http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/full9836.jpg |
| 23:06.11 | Fumler | like that ,just with glaze instead |
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| 23:06.37 | Shirik|Ecole | I'm not entirely sure what you're trying to do, and I need food |
| 23:07.06 | Shirik|Ecole | so I will be back in about 5 minutes |
| 23:07.06 | Fumler | the hpbar and manabar |
| 23:07.06 | Fumler | I want to change the texture on them |
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| 23:24.26 | sag_ich_nicht | question |
| 23:24.28 | sag_ich_nicht | is lurker an FPS drain, or SSC generally? |
| 23:25.06 | zenzelezz | I don't notice anything special about Lurker in terms of FPS |
| 23:25.17 | zenzelezz | could be a lot of spells focused in a smaller area |
| 23:26.29 | foxlit | http://worldofwarcraft.com/downloads/ssotd/#1125 |
| 23:26.43 | foxlit | That would've been so much cooler with moonkins |
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| 23:45.10 | Cidan | eh? |
| 23:45.14 | Cidan | EH!?!?@!#$@! |
| 23:45.55 | art3mis | eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee |
| 23:46.06 | Cidan | New update on http://www.conspiracy-ui.com/ |
| 23:46.12 | Cidan | no pictures |
| 23:46.16 | Cidan | just text |
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| 23:46.35 | Cairenn | you guys are so violent |
| 23:46.44 | art3mis | now its foamy tingles instead of searing pain |
| 23:47.28 | art3mis | i still cant get over the fact that the ex client actually thinks that i need to go by her time table to get my hardware back |
| 23:47.33 | art3mis | thats hilarious |
| 23:49.12 | Taeri | Anyone here used DepositBox addon? |
| 23:50.05 | Taeri | why're we crying+ |
| 23:50.09 | Taeri | ? |
| 23:50.18 | Cidan | 18:46 * art3mis kicks Cidan in the groin with his new Nerf Soccer Cleets |
| 23:50.28 | Taeri | ow |
| 23:54.56 | Lunessa | I'm not here to advocate senseless violence and gore, but they've always worked for me. |
| 23:57.34 | sag_ich_nicht | [00:46] <@Cairenn> you guys are so violent <--this is all luas fault |
| 23:58.04 | Cairenn | oh, okay then |
