| 00:04.40 | Xuerian | bahahahaha |
| 00:04.54 | Xuerian | That halloween special was good |
| 00:04.54 | Intangir | wow that furi guy is fully pvped out now |
| 00:05.03 | Intangir | still not hemo, i would be hemo with warglaives |
| 00:06.55 | Rayne | yawn |
| 00:07.19 | Rayne | lol |
| 00:07.22 | Rayne | this show is awesome |
| 00:16.11 | art3mis | mr teeth mr teeth mr teeth! |
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| 00:30.09 | WobWork | Finnish school shooting =( |
| 00:31.51 | KarlThePagan | human paladin or draenai paladin |
| 00:32.02 | Thunder_Child | neither |
| 00:32.14 | KarlThePagan | why dwarf |
| 00:32.18 | Rayne | theres like 50 people lined up for the darkmoon faire cannon on my server... |
| 00:32.42 | KarlThePagan | and BE is not an option :P |
| 00:33.40 | Kelfarr | dwarf111! |
| 00:34.04 | Kelfarr | rayne I am going to remake my ui |
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| 00:35.04 | WobWork | What's the rarest race/class combo? |
| 00:35.15 | WobWork | I've started a female dwarven warrior |
| 00:35.20 | WobWork | cause I've never seen one =P |
| 00:36.24 | Kelfarr | same |
| 00:36.26 | Kelfarr | never seen one |
| 00:36.32 | Rayne | how come Kel? |
| 00:36.38 | Kelfarr | i don't like it |
| 00:36.45 | Kelfarr | boring old gradients |
| 00:36.48 | WobWork | Certainly a valid enough reason =P |
| 00:37.10 | WobWork | I hear there's a wonderful Hello Kitty UI that's anything but boring =P |
| 00:37.17 | Kelfarr | its going to see something like this http://img385.imageshack.us/img385/637/wowscrnshot110607195945nk7.jpg |
| 00:37.25 | Kelfarr | the art around the minimap and action bars |
| 00:37.32 | Kelfarr | i am going to make it in photoshop |
| 00:37.49 | Rayne | please dont put everything in the middle :( |
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| 00:44.27 | Rayne | I dont really think I need to change anything on BBC... |
| 00:44.49 | Kelfarr | no just the art rayne not like that |
| 00:44.57 | Kelfarr | everything will be in the same spot it is now |
| 00:45.33 | Rayne | ah |
| 00:47.33 | Rayne | still wish Omen had a way to color all the bars :/ |
| 00:49.11 | Kelfarr | yeah |
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| 01:05.12 | Kelfarr | some guy posted on the UI form he says using /focus is too hard and wants an addon to show 2 targets without the use of /focus |
| 01:05.33 | WobWork | ... |
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| 01:05.48 | cog|away | … |
| 01:06.01 | cog|away | (that deserved a genuine ellipsis) |
| 01:06.10 | WobWork | we could call it... hm... |
| 01:06.26 | WobWork | watch |
| 01:06.38 | cog|away | oh and zomg re: visual studio 08 & addons |
| 01:09.11 | kd3 | they've announced the title of patch 2.3... |
| 01:09.15 | kd3 | "The Gods of Zul'Aman" |
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| 01:11.37 | Kelfarr | really lol... |
| 01:13.47 | Thunder_Child | no one else names their patches.... |
| 01:14.34 | WobWork | Blizzard Coder: Hey, lets name the next one "Arthur"! |
| 01:15.10 | cog|away | Thunder_Child: eve does |
| 01:15.28 | Thunder_Child | prolly took it from wow |
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| 01:17.44 | cog|away | eve's been around and patching since '03 |
| 01:17.57 | cog|away | their names are more vague though |
| 01:18.09 | cog|away | Castor, Exodus, Cold War, Red Moon Rising, Revelations... |
| 01:18.16 | Thunder_Child | shhhh...yuor destroying my ability to not care |
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| 01:28.09 | KarlKFI | JoshBorke: it's just a PartyCastingBars hack at this point |
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| 01:29.02 | JoshBorke | i see |
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| 01:34.55 | Rayne | man I wonder how many mods are going to die on tuesday :/ |
| 01:35.34 | kd3 | oh, crap. better create new the "It's Patch Day" sticky soon |
| 01:38.14 | KarlKFI | ~netsplit |
| 01:38.15 | purl | well, netsplit is something that happens when two IRC servers lose their link, thus isolating the users on every side from each other. a normal part of ALL irc networks, despite what some people bitching about larger networks may seem to think, or an orchestra of poips and thwoops, or something which occurs frequently on OPN |
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| 01:46.02 | |Jelly| | Much better. Nap until internet stops being stupid is win. |
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| 01:58.05 | cog|away | http://youtube.com/watch?v=urU6M_ZB2K4 |
| 01:58.52 | Rayne | Kel |
| 01:59.44 | |Jelly| | Fine. I see how much you guys care. FINE! |
| 02:00.00 | cogwheel | |Jelly|: my video is proof of just how much i care |
| 02:00.00 | Thunder_Child | |Jelly|, we dont |
| 02:00.21 | Rayne | wb Jelly |
| 02:00.27 | |Jelly| | Thunder_Child: I know. I've known you didn't care for a long time now. I'm over it. You've broken my heart already. |
| 02:00.43 | Thunder_Child | only once? damn, i must be slipping |
| 02:01.01 | |Jelly| | Cog: OMG |
| 02:02.19 | cogwheel | Note the license plate border that says "My other ride is a swift gryphon" ;) |
| 02:02.30 | |Jelly| | And I thought I was a nerd. |
| 02:02.54 | kd3 | ick... it's really obvious how badly the backlight's going in my old (current) lcd. putting the same background on an lcd sitting next to it is like night and day |
| 02:04.13 | |Jelly| | WTB 30" WS |
| 02:04.33 | cogwheel | |Jelly|: most 30" are the same resolution as the 22+ |
| 02:04.51 | |Jelly| | So? |
| 02:04.52 | cogwheel | you'd have to sit farther away |
| 02:04.56 | |Jelly| | So? |
| 02:05.03 | cogwheel | so it would take up about the same field of view |
| 02:05.06 | |Jelly| | Cog...stop trying to kill my dream. |
| 02:05.16 | cogwheel | :P |
| 02:05.29 | Rayne | just play laying on your bed |
| 02:05.31 | Rayne | :D |
| 02:06.08 | |Jelly| | I would |
| 02:06.12 | cogwheel | i would too |
| 02:06.25 | cogwheel | tempurpedic 4tw |
| 02:06.28 | cogwheel | ;) |
| 02:07.49 | Rayne | lawl |
| 02:08.53 | kd3 | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:12.17 | Rayne | I dont see anything |
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| 02:13.00 | cogwheel | it's a quine! |
| 02:14.12 | Ktron | It might be time to wipe by AddOns directory and get everything fresh |
| 02:14.35 | cogwheel | I started that earlier tonight. Then gave up about 5 mins later :( |
| 02:15.36 | Rayne | "Critique my UI, but i guarentee I wont like what you say" |
| 02:19.43 | kd3 | there we go, now it works |
| 02:20.22 | Ktron | I usually just try to eliminate all the nonace addons I can |
| 02:20.35 | Ktron | and then I usually end up installing half of cosmos anyway |
| 02:20.58 | cogwheel | Ktron: why the prejudice? |
| 02:21.00 | Kelfarr | yes rayne? i was afk |
| 02:21.09 | |Jelly| | "eliminate all the nonace addons" /popcorn |
| 02:21.15 | Ktron | against or for? |
| 02:21.19 | Rayne | umm...I forget now |
| 02:21.20 | Rayne | lol |
| 02:21.24 | Kelfarr | lol ok |
| 02:21.45 | Mr_Rabies2 | why remove the nonace ones? just ease of updating? |
| 02:23.18 | |Jelly| | Mr_Raboes2: That's why I use mostly Ace Mods. |
| 02:24.22 | |Jelly| | s/Mr_Raboes/Mr_Rabies/ |
| 02:24.26 | Mr_Rabies2 | same here, not for preference of the addon itself but for preference of the svn idea, |Jellu| |
| 02:25.21 | Rayne | I was contemplating making another 'Make Me Hate My UI' thread but id rather not fire up that bandwagon again :/ |
| 02:25.39 | Ktron | cogwheel, prejudice against/for cosmos or wowace? |
| 02:25.54 | |Jelly| | http://img214.imageshack.us/img214/1347/wowscrnshot110707193226ru8.jpg Grats on Stock UF imo. |
| 02:25.54 | Ktron | cogwheel, er, ace |
| 02:25.56 | cogwheel | Ktron: Mr_Rabies2 covered it :P |
| 02:26.23 | |Jelly| | Yes. Please don't. ESPECIALLY since the only criticism I've gotten on my new UI is the stupid map. |
| 02:26.52 | Mr_Rabies2 | whose interface is that jelly |
| 02:26.53 | Rayne | it was nice the first time and when Ryas did it, but after that it got old |
| 02:27.00 | Rayne | its Shrigs |
| 02:27.18 | Mr_Rabies2 | i want to murder weedz |
| 02:27.35 | Mr_Rabies2 | for quoting carlos mencia and giving that hack an even marginal amount of credit |
| 02:28.58 | cogwheel | Ktron: actually, i guess you could say "both" |
| 02:29.20 | Ktron | heh |
| 02:32.11 | Ktron | I forget where one goes at level 20 |
| 02:32.21 | Ktron | (on horde) |
| 02:32.49 | |Jelly| | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=2856135989&postId=28556693389&sid=1#8 Reason why Shrig is dumb. |
| 02:35.16 | |Jelly| | "[P] <Hordwilldie>: sha r u hela or tank" /facepalm |
| 02:35.40 | |Jelly| | (The other group member, in the same guild as him is Hayter) |
| 02:37.53 | |Jelly| | And kek at Shrig thinking my UI is too cluttered. |
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| 02:45.02 | |Jelly| | *sigh* Why am I even arguing with Shrig? |
| 02:45.35 | Kelfarr | i am back! |
| 02:45.43 | Kelfarr | ohh arguing with shrig? where |
| 02:45.45 | |Jelly| | Good. Tell Shrig how retarded he is so I don't have to? |
| 02:46.04 | Kelfarr | He is so goddamn annoying, |
| 02:46.11 | |Jelly| | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=2856135989&sid=1 I'm not even going to read his most recent post. |
| 02:46.30 | Kelfarr | he keeps telling me how good my UI is so he can be accepted to the "elitist" group or something |
| 02:46.48 | |Jelly| | At least he's not attached to my ass anymore. |
| 02:47.13 | Kelfarr | Please elaborate.. I feel stupider than I am... |
| 02:47.15 | Kelfarr | thats what he said |
| 02:47.35 | |Jelly| | Want to do the honors? |
| 02:47.43 | Kelfarr | he asks for critism and you tell him to change the default UF and he gets mad... |
| 02:48.07 | |Jelly| | Are they not default? (GRATS ON CHANGING THE DIMENSIONS OF THE PARTY!) ... |
| 02:48.29 | Kelfarr | exactly |
| 02:48.31 | |Jelly| | And then...are mine...in any of my UIs...even close to default? lol |
| 02:48.44 | Rayne | Jelly dont feed the troll :( |
| 02:48.50 | Kelfarr | he used default UF and changed the texture to smooth |
| 02:49.03 | Rayne | Have some apple strudel instead! |
| 02:49.19 | |Jelly| | I'm not responding. lol |
| 02:50.42 | Kelfarr | wtf on family guy louis is married to bryan! |
| 02:51.13 | Rayne | is that the episode where they buy the boat and get lost at sea? |
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| 02:52.38 | Kelfarr | I don't know, just started it |
| 02:52.44 | Kelfarr | I came in halfway thru |
| 02:52.48 | Rayne | ah |
| 02:56.11 | Kelfarr | lol this guy is hilarious, he must be a troll http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=2855986012&sid=1 |
| 02:58.58 | Rayne | lawl |
| 02:59.48 | Kelfarr | -the king- |
| 03:00.21 | Rayne | i saw that |
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| 03:45.27 | fridgid | lewl. |
| 03:45.30 | Esamynn | welcome back everyone |
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| 03:45.32 | Shirik | I was so lonely |
| 03:45.32 | Shirik | hug me |
| 03:45.32 | kd3 | gotta love freenode |
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| 03:45.48 | Wobin | =( |
| 03:45.48 | fridgid | i wasn't scared! |
| 03:45.49 | MentalPower | that was a rather long netsplit |
| 03:45.49 | fridgid | yeah |
| 03:45.49 | Shirik | hrm |
| 03:45.49 | Kelfarr | weird everyone DCed except me and 5 other people |
| 03:45.49 | kd3 | and wtf at the weather... it's only 1c outside and it's just 22:44. coldest we've gotten all year |
| 03:45.49 | kd3 | insanity |
| 03:45.49 | Shirik | NickServ isn't responding |
| 03:45.49 | Shirik | that's not good |
| 03:45.49 | fridgid | yeah |
| 03:45.49 | Esamynn | Kelfarr: it's called a netsplit |
| 03:45.49 | fridgid | i got that my nick was owned by somebody else twice |
| 03:45.49 | Shirik | Kelfarr: go wiki netsplit |
| 03:45.49 | Rayne | hmm |
| 03:46.16 | Shirik | after you do that, go get a client that compresses netsplits into one line: |
| 03:46.16 | Kelfarr | yeah but howcome I didn't DC? |
| 03:46.16 | Shirik | 14(2211:2911:0014) 11-› Netsplit 11(simmons.freenode.net ‹-› irc.freenode.net11) 38 quits |
| 03:46.16 | Shirik | because the server didn't go down |
| 03:46.16 | Wobin | ~netsplit |
| 03:46.17 | purl | it has been said that netsplit is something that happens when two IRC servers lose their link, thus isolating the users on every side from each other. a normal part of ALL irc networks, despite what some people bitching about larger networks may seem to think, or an orchestra of poips and thwoops, or something which occurs frequently on OPN |
| 03:46.17 | Shirik | the servers just split |
| 03:46.17 | Kelfarr | oh ok |
| 03:46.17 | kd3 | or just don't show join/parts altogether... |
| 03:46.17 | Shirik | effectively one network becomes two |
| 03:46.17 | Thunder_Child | or three...or four... |
| 03:46.17 | Shirik | well, not one :P |
| 03:46.17 | art3mis | it's free and splits less than efnet ;P |
| 03:46.17 | art3mis | yeah its 2c here |
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| 04:13.23 | Rayne | LAWL |
| 04:13.23 | Kirkburn | And we're back :D |
| 04:13.23 | kergoth | sheesh |
| 04:13.25 | kergoth | that was fun |
| 04:13.25 | mikma | looks cool also |
| 04:13.25 | Kirkburn | Methinks a world announcement is coming? |
| 04:13.25 | Shirik | (22:48:26) -› Netsplit (clarke.freenode.net ‹-› irc.freenode.net) 182 quits |
| 04:13.25 | Shirik | not funny |
| 04:13.25 | art3mis | "Why join the navy when you can be a pirate" - Steve Jobs |
| 04:13.51 | Mr_Rabies2 | halp |
| 04:14.01 | mikma | Kirkburn: whatwhat announcement? |
| 04:14.11 | Kirkburn | mikma, like to explain what the hell just happened :P |
| 04:14.39 | mikma | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:15.08 | Mr_Rabies2 | <freenode> We'd like to take a moment to inform everyone of what just happened regarding connectivity issues. |
| 04:15.21 | Mr_Rabies2 | <freenode> SHIT BLOW'D UP |
| 04:15.30 | fridgid | lol |
| 04:15.36 | Kirkburn | haha |
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| 04:22.26 | Mr_Rabies2 | minisplit ho |
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| 04:23.32 | Shirik | christ, another split? |
| 04:23.35 | Shirik | gah |
| 04:23.37 | Shirik | anyway |
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| 04:25.24 | Shirik | !co us drenden Kimina us drenden Deluxx |
| 04:25.29 | ThraeBot | Shirik: Kimina vs Deluxx! Two 70 priests compare their stat differences; 23/38/0 vs 20/41/0; Kimina ++880 HP; Kimina ++53 +healing; Kimina ++0.52% dodge; Kimina ++16 +spelldmg; Deluxx ++10 shadow resist; Kimina ++61 Armour; Kimina ++195 Mana; Kimina ++17 mana regen; Kimina ++46 mp5; Deluxx has 2% more stats then Kimina. |
| 04:25.50 | Shirik | how does he have more stats than me? o.o |
| 04:26.31 | Esamynn | dunno |
| 04:27.45 | Mr_Rabies2 | shirik, i forget, are you into anime at all |
| 04:27.51 | Shirik | very yes |
| 04:28.03 | Mr_Rabies2 | have you seen gurren lagann |
| 04:30.17 | AnduinLothar | Leo down with 2 pallies left alive in bubble |
| 04:31.16 | AnduinLothar | everyone else dead lol |
| 04:31.43 | Esamynn | lol |
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| 04:40.43 | Kelfarr | god photoshop is annoying |
| 04:41.00 | |Jelly| | eh? |
| 04:41.26 | Kelfarr | all i am trying to do is make a black border with full opacity and it makes its transparent |
| 04:41.40 | |Jelly| | For WoW? |
| 04:41.44 | Kelfarr | yeah |
| 04:41.51 | |Jelly| | eePanels? lol |
| 04:42.07 | Kelfarr | yeah |
| 04:42.45 | |Jelly| | Just use eePanels.. |
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| 04:43.48 | Kelfarr | its easier to make this in photoshop then just import it |
| 04:43.58 | |Jelly| | Apparently not. lol |
| 04:44.33 | |Jelly| | Just got booted from a group cause I wouldn't tell them where I loved iRL |
| 04:44.35 | Kelfarr | wow and now one side of the border is full black like I made it and the other side is slighty transparent |
| 04:44.40 | Kelfarr | lol.. |
| 04:44.42 | Esamynn | |Jelly|: lol |
| 04:45.02 | |Jelly| | s/loved/lived/ |
| 04:46.27 | art3mis | laugh |
| 04:46.58 | art3mis | its way easier to just alpha channel the pzrts of the art you dont want and let eep take care of transperancy and ingame alpha ;P |
| 04:47.48 | |Jelly| | agree |
| 04:48.25 | Rayne | I think im 100% happy with BBC atm |
| 04:48.33 | |Jelly| | don't lie |
| 04:48.38 | Rayne | im serious |
| 04:48.40 | Kirkburn | BBC? |
| 04:49.03 | Kirkburn | To me BBC = British Broadcasting Corporation :P |
| 04:49.04 | Rayne | the one thing I want to change I cant, because Omen doesnt offer single bar coloring... |
| 04:49.08 | |Jelly| | his UI compilation |
| 04:49.23 | Kirkburn | Wait, surely that's 99% happy? |
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| 04:51.44 | |Jelly| | http://www.thesmokinggun.com/graphics/art3/1105072jenkem1.jpg |
| 04:53.31 | Wobin | ... |
| 04:53.34 | Wobin | Leroy Jenkims |
| 04:54.59 | Mike-N-Go | |Jelly|: That is inhumane. |
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| 04:55.52 | |Jelly| | Anyone who actually does that, deserves whatever they get imo. |
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| 04:56.58 | Kelfarr | I heard about leryo jemkens |
| 04:56.58 | Kelfarr | pretty sick |
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| 04:59.11 | Rayne | here we go again |
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| 05:00.08 | Kelfarr | yeah |
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| 05:04.29 | Kelfarr | there done the action bar part after 3 hours |
| 05:04.35 | Kelfarr | now i get to do the minimap! |
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| 05:11.28 | art3mis | meh |
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| 05:11.30 | art3mis | i think im gonna have to go up and reset an exchange server |
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| 05:23.16 | Kelfarr | ok finally done the art |
| 05:23.24 | |Jelly| | show us imo |
| 05:23.40 | Kelfarr | in a sec |
| 05:26.48 | art3mis | you show now! di di mao! |
| 05:28.19 | Kelfarr | ni hao and farm some gold ni hao and farm some gold |
| 05:28.26 | art3mis | i am |
| 05:28.36 | Kelfarr | good |
| 05:28.37 | art3mis | i wanna see what you've been working on for far to long ;P |
| 05:28.44 | art3mis | you post screenie now |
| 05:29.01 | Kelfarr | one second i have to save them and then load them into wow |
| 05:29.15 | art3mis | and then make me a themeswapper? |
| 05:29.21 | art3mis | ;) |
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| 05:30.21 | Kelfarr | themeswapper? |
| 05:30.44 | Rayne | yawn |
| 05:31.19 | art3mis | http://www.gothi.ca/Stuff/themeswapper.txt |
| 05:31.36 | |Jelly| | (Make sure you read number 5, Kelfarr) |
| 05:31.48 | art3mis | actually im less concerned about the top part |
| 05:31.59 | art3mis | the stuff under the OR is easier and will do better for what i want ;P |
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| 05:32.57 | Kelfarr | AHH XPERL NOES |
| 05:33.47 | Kelfarr | so you want me to make that? I have no experience programming |
| 05:36.31 | art3mis | heh the profile importexport thingy yeah ;) |
| 05:36.44 | art3mis | i actually replaced xperl with dahud as my unitframes |
| 05:38.18 | Kelfarr | the one thing that sucks is you can't make gradients in photoshop with something I already have maid |
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| 05:38.44 | Kelfarr | made* |
| 05:38.45 | Kelfarr | lol |
| 05:39.58 | |Jelly| | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=2856216332&sid=1 I'll *never* understand people that sequence that. |
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| 05:40.39 | Kelfarr | Why whats wrong |
| 05:41.01 | |Jelly| | It's retarded? |
| 05:41.21 | |Jelly| | (Judgment doesn't trigger the GCD) |
| 05:41.22 | Kelfarr | How? you use the judgement then reapply the sea |
| 05:41.25 | Kelfarr | oh it doesn't |
| 05:41.30 | Kelfarr | didn't know that |
| 05:41.52 | Rayne | Wheres that SS Kel :P |
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| 05:42.12 | |Jelly| | Seriously. |
| 05:42.31 | Rayne | I wanna see it lol |
| 05:42.43 | Kelfarr | Its coming still finishing it in photoshop |
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| 05:45.11 | Kelfarr | hmm I should probably switch to eepanels2 before I do this eh? |
| 05:45.29 | Rayne | prolly |
| 05:45.41 | Kelfarr | Ok need to do that quick |
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| 05:46.21 | Rayne | im thinking about using something like this http://imagecache2.allposters.com/images/pic/LEM/LE104~Goldfinch-and-Cherry-Tree-Posters.jpg for my UI |
| 05:46.24 | |Jelly| | Unless you have half a million panels already. lol |
| 05:47.45 | Rayne | I have 14, wheeee |
| 05:47.45 | Kelfarr | I do but whatever |
| 05:48.02 | |Jelly| | Muse has 32 and I'm not done. lol |
| 05:48.44 | Kelfarr | eek |
| 05:49.02 | Kelfarr | thats the one reason I am making it in photoshop first so I will only need about 3 panels |
| 05:49.08 | Kelfarr | instead of the 25 I had on my current UI |
| 05:49.29 | |Jelly| | *shrug* I like being able to control all the colors and what not in game. |
| 05:49.46 | |Jelly| | I also edited Roth. :\ |
| 05:49.55 | |Jelly| | It was WAY too transparent. |
| 05:52.01 | Kelfarr | ugh another person who wants a macro to do /yell HEAL ME |
| 05:52.02 | Kelfarr | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=2856196368&postId=28557096312&sid=1#1 |
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| 05:53.28 | mikma_ | i like your responses |
| 05:53.36 | Kelfarr | lol |
| 05:55.03 | Kelfarr | whats the power of 2 that is less than 128? |
| 05:55.04 | Kelfarr | 56? |
| 05:55.10 | |Jelly| | 64 |
| 05:55.18 | Kelfarr | thanks |
| 05:55.26 | |Jelly| | >>>128/2 |
| 05:55.33 | |Jelly| | Jesus Christ I fail. |
| 05:55.33 | Kelfarr | yeah i didn't realize that to just now |
| 05:55.37 | Iriel | technically there's no "the power of 2 that is less than 128", there are a great many |
| 05:55.46 | Iriel | the HIGHEST power of 2 less than 128 is 64 |
| 05:55.51 | Kelfarr | i mean the next one down |
| 05:56.28 | |Jelly| | The MVP just learnded j00! |
| 05:56.47 | Rayne | lewl |
| 05:57.22 | Kelfarr | ok starting wow |
| 05:57.34 | |Jelly| | About fucking time. |
| 05:57.52 | Shirik | ROFL kd3 |
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| 05:58.17 | Shirik | Some guy asks you the command to log out, and you tell him /script SendChatMessage("\n") ? |
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| 06:01.30 | Kelfarr | ugh you can't scroll down the list of textures for quartz and I have so many it takes up my whole screen |
| 06:01.37 | |Jelly| | Anyone else hate Rachel Ray as much as I do? |
| 06:01.52 | |Jelly| | Configure Quartz through /rock |
| 06:02.10 | Thunder_Child | i can scroll it |
| 06:03.17 | Kelfarr | ty jelly that worked |
| 06:03.25 | Esamynn | |Jelly|: I'm indifferent, I know nothing about her :P |
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| 06:08.39 | art3mis | she used to be cute and doable, now shes annoying and she needs to be done just to possibly make her stop talking |
| 06:10.35 | Mr_Rabies2 | she and sarah silverman can make out for all eternity and kill two birds with one stone |
| 06:10.57 | Kelfarr | fuck |
| 06:11.04 | Kelfarr | there is a white border around the texture... |
| 06:11.18 | Kelfarr | sarah silverman is soo hitable |
| 06:11.19 | |Jelly| | L2PHotoshop |
| 06:11.24 | Kelfarr | it never did this before |
| 06:11.45 | |Jelly| | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CykN97RQ724 |
| 06:12.42 | Kelfarr | i meant hit as in fuckable :P |
| 06:12.46 | mikma_ | Cairenn: http://kuvaton.com/kuvei/kissa160.jpg |
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| 06:15.21 | mikma_ | hah, that looks like a great movie |
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| 06:17.16 | art3mis | yeah sarah silverman was cute and sexy in greg the bunny, but her new show makes me wana beat her with a shovel |
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| 06:22.09 | Kelfarr | fuck I am pissed now |
| 06:22.09 | Kelfarr | now i gotta just make it in eepanels i guess |
| 06:22.09 | art3mis | colour to alpha ;P |
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| 06:22.32 | art3mis | wooo! |
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| 06:22.32 | art3mis | i gots me a new host! |
| 06:22.32 | Cairenn | art3mis: now, go add an email to your account! |
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| 06:22.32 | Cairenn | and an alt nick |
| 06:22.36 | Kelfarr | wanna see a SS rayne/jelly |
| 06:22.41 | art3mis | whihc account? |
| 06:22.45 | Cairenn | this one |
| 06:22.49 | |Jelly| | yeah |
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| 06:24.30 | Kelfarr | here is what it was suppose to look like http://img385.imageshack.us/img385/637/wowscrnshot110607195945nk7.jpg the art around the action bars and map , here is what it looks like made in photoshop http://surl.se/gfuv |
| 06:24.55 | Cairenn | art3mis: finally caught a staffer on that knows me, so was able to get it applied, sorry for the delay |
| 06:24.55 | Kelfarr | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:25.17 | art3mis | kel just get gimp |
| 06:25.21 | |Jelly| | god i hate that host |
| 06:25.25 | art3mis | that border is easy to fix |
| 06:25.41 | Kelfarr | how |
| 06:25.49 | Kelfarr | it has never done that before |
| 06:25.51 | Kelfarr | only on that art |
| 06:26.04 | Kelfarr | I am just going to make it in eepanels and not photoshop |
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| 06:26.30 | art3mis | well just set an alpha channel and erase the white... |
| 06:26.40 | art3mis | or do a white->alpha conversion |
| 06:28.03 | Kelfarr | there was no white on it in photoshop |
| 06:28.06 | Kelfarr | thats the problem |
| 06:28.21 | Kelfarr | actually I know what I did wrong |
| 06:28.21 | Kelfarr | damn |
| 06:28.35 | art3mis | cairenn: groovy thanks!, how do i set an alt nick? |
| 06:29.02 | Cairenn | change nicks, register it, link it to your main |
| 06:29.21 | Cairenn | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:29.34 | art3mis | ahh okay |
| 06:29.51 | Cairenn | that's why I don't have to identify every single time I change my nick |
| 06:29.51 | Kelfarr | Jelly |
| 06:29.57 | Kelfarr | check the last post in the post your UI thread |
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| 06:31.50 | Cairenn | it's like, I've actually got 16 nicks registered and all linked |
| 06:38.53 | Mr_Rabies2 | it's annoying how long it takes for ghosts to drop |
| 06:39.10 | Mr_Rabies2 | and my autorecover script is buggy on freenode |
| 06:39.17 | Cairenn | so kick it? |
| 06:39.29 | Mr_Rabies2 | sure, i can do it manually |
| 06:39.44 | Mr_Rabies2 | but my desktop client is commonly ingame or something |
| 06:40.02 | Mr_Rabies2 | and i get to hear it beeping uncontrollably every time it says "nick already taken zomg zomg zomg" |
| 06:40.12 | Mr_Rabies2 | instead of running the script like it does on every other network O_o |
| 06:40.40 | Mr_Rabies2 | be nice if we could set a nickdrop time |
| 06:40.41 | Mr_Rabies2 | but alas |
| 06:41.03 | Mr_Rabies2 | i know you can on some other networks and set how long you have to identify for and stuff |
| 06:41.05 | Mr_Rabies2 | but alas |
| 06:41.28 | Cairenn | bleh |
| 06:41.43 | art3mis | just get yer autoconnect script for yer client |
| 06:45.15 | Kelfarr | I FIXED IT YAY |
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| 06:53.51 | Mr_Rabies2 | art3mis do what now |
| 06:53.53 | Mr_Rabies2 | O_o |
| 06:54.11 | AnduinLothar | 1 night SSC clear =D |
| 06:54.35 | Mr_Rabies2 | i've got a script in place that autokills ghosts but it only halfway works on freenode for some reason |
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| 07:11.41 | Cairenn | not half so glad as the freenode staff though, I'm sure |
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| 07:14.29 | Rayne | lewl |
| 07:14.36 | Rayne | I got a new tanking trinket :D |
| 07:15.09 | ThraeBot | Triggers: !fc; !c; !vs; !vsd; !g; !ge; !te; !co; !ar; !l; !tc; !ap; !api; !tl; !t; !i; !p;. To get more information about a particular command, do !help <command>. Now /msg ThraeBot with your command and stop spamming the damn channel. |
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| 07:18.13 | Thunder_Child | "Two things we'll be making improvements to in the near future (although these aren't likely to make it in on time for 2.3) are having iceblock be trainable (to make sure all mages have it as a tool for pve encounters and to open up other trees as being more viable options for pvp), and to-be-finalized improvements to mana issues in longer fights." |
| 07:18.48 | art3mis | yes cuz lord knows ice block o a fire mage makes complete sense ;P |
| 07:19.04 | Thunder_Child | a fire mage can still cast frostbolt |
| 07:19.10 | Thunder_Child | it's not all that odd |
| 07:19.30 | Thunder_Child | you just hink it is because of how you were brought up with it |
| 07:19.34 | Kelfarr | what one rayne |
| 07:19.49 | Thunder_Child | "In patch 2.3, aimed shot will not only reduces healing done to the target by 50% for a ten seconds, but we're also reducing the shot time by 0.5 seconds." |
| 07:20.47 | Kelfarr | thats good, its not like you can cast aimed shot in arena |
| 07:20.52 | Kelfarr | 3 second cast lol |
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| 08:03.39 | Rayne | LURKER IS SERIOUS BUSINESS |
| 08:04.32 | Cairenn | night guys |
| 08:05.06 | bleeter | gnight Cairenn|afk |
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| 11:25.47 | Rayne | Anyone Awake? |
| 11:26.46 | art3mis | http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/searchtools/item-Details.asp?EdpNo=3478114&sku=P450-9102%20E&CMP=EMC-TIGEREMAIL&SRCCODE=WEM1493C |
| 11:26.51 | art3mis | me although i shouldnt be |
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| 11:27.12 | Rayne | allo allo |
| 11:28.01 | Rayne | i cant sleep, playing with my UI |
| 11:28.42 | art3mis | heh yeah i get that way... had to go up to a clients since thier mail server locked up around midnight |
| 11:28.50 | art3mis | put it off for about 3 hours heh |
| 11:29.11 | Rayne | im debating custom artwork |
| 11:29.22 | art3mis | im far to lazy for that |
| 11:29.34 | art3mis | plus im big on the whole "theme" idears |
| 11:29.56 | Rayne | hang on lemme post an SS |
| 11:30.00 | art3mis | with the amount you guys change ui's someone really needs to make a profiler theme swapper import export thingy |
| 11:30.18 | art3mis | the profiles work awesome btw |
| 11:30.28 | art3mis | was playing with them for the basic ace2 mods i mod |
| 11:30.36 | art3mis | they swap all clean and stuff |
| 11:31.19 | art3mis | even the layotus and enabled/disabled bt3 bars |
| 11:31.22 | Rayne | I was going minimalist, but im now adding things to BBC... |
| 11:31.31 | art3mis | bbc? |
| 11:31.36 | Rayne | Burnt Black Cherry |
| 11:31.38 | art3mis | ahh |
| 11:31.50 | art3mis | ya know what you should check into? |
| 11:31.55 | art3mis | the scripting for eep |
| 11:32.03 | art3mis | that would fit yer minimal nicely |
| 11:32.09 | Rayne | http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v442/SinOfDreams/WoWScrnShot_110807_062958.jpg The graphic behind the minimap is new, and yes I know about the grey texture that was intended. |
| 11:32.12 | art3mis | only pops up when in raid combat etc |
| 11:32.25 | Rayne | meh im too lazy for that |
| 11:32.48 | art3mis | heh |
| 11:32.50 | art3mis | nice |
| 11:32.54 | Rayne | and CML is in a crappy spot I just moved it :P |
| 11:32.58 | art3mis | might i suggest that you mod the graphic layer? |
| 11:33.05 | art3mis | just so it eats the sharp edges of the map |
| 11:33.06 | Rayne | im considering just getting rid of it... |
| 11:33.16 | Rayne | yeah im playing with that atm |
| 11:33.38 | art3mis | did you ever see that daffy duck cartoon where they were talking to the artist and playing with the pencil and eraser? |
| 11:34.02 | Rayne | yup |
| 11:34.02 | art3mis | and the artist erases daffy and redraws him as a flower? |
| 11:34.20 | bleeter | http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/wrath/features/dungeons/utgarde.xml?rhtml=y |
| 11:34.24 | art3mis | for some reason every time i see flower based or round minmaps i think of that |
| 11:34.32 | art3mis | hehe |
| 11:34.43 | art3mis | i read that as uutragarde |
| 11:34.48 | art3mis | from teh venture bros. |
| 11:35.29 | art3mis | ya know what would make wotlk just soooo awesome? |
| 11:35.38 | art3mis | if they added in traction effects |
| 11:35.43 | Rayne | if people who bitched about warlocks 24/7 died? |
| 11:35.44 | art3mis | so it was possible to slide |
| 11:35.48 | Rayne | oh |
| 11:35.50 | Rayne | ya that would be cool |
| 11:35.59 | art3mis | and absed on weight ;P |
| 11:36.05 | art3mis | tanks careening around widly |
| 11:36.08 | art3mis | wildly |
| 11:36.08 | cladhaire | lolol |
| 11:36.09 | Rayne | being a warrior though id hate not being able to charge :/ |
| 11:36.20 | art3mis | rayne you could charge |
| 11:36.22 | cladhaire | if your wow client fails the DLL Scan, and a "hack" is found |
| 11:36.29 | cladhaire | it plays the intruder alert noise from Gnomeregan |
| 11:36.30 | cladhaire | PlaySoundFile("Sound\\Creature\\MobileAlertBot\\MobileAlertBotIntruderAlert01.wav") |
| 11:36.33 | art3mis | it would just take a bit but once you were up to speed, lord help wha you hit |
| 11:36.43 | cladhaire | that is so win. |
| 11:36.48 | art3mis | hehe |
| 11:36.49 | mikma | cladhaire: ah haha :D |
| 11:37.00 | cladhaire | i'm finding so many neat things by documenting the API :P |
| 11:37.04 | art3mis | wizard of wor noises ould have been better |
| 11:37.09 | cladhaire | that's the ONLY place PlaySound() is used in the game |
| 11:37.14 | art3mis | "intruder alert intruder alert" in a computer voice |
| 11:37.45 | bleeter | lol clad |
| 11:37.49 | cladhaire | err PlaySoundFile() |
| 11:38.14 | art3mis | waits for clads complete list of soundfiles |
| 11:38.23 | art3mis | so i can replace em with other stuff ;P |
| 11:38.50 | Rayne | hey |
| 11:38.52 | Rayne | Art |
| 11:38.53 | art3mis | like balls of steel wavs ;) |
| 11:39.02 | art3mis | hrm? |
| 11:39.07 | Rayne | should I get rid of the Cherries in the Omen Background? Or should I leave them. |
| 11:39.17 | art3mis | those little blotches? |
| 11:39.31 | cladhaire | i won't be listing all sound files |
| 11:39.35 | art3mis | awww |
| 11:39.36 | cladhaire | hell no |
| 11:39.40 | cladhaire | that would take FOREVER |
| 11:39.41 | art3mis | but i need full paths! |
| 11:39.47 | art3mis | and names! |
| 11:39.48 | art3mis | hehe |
| 11:39.52 | Rayne | meh theyre visable |
| 11:40.00 | Rayne | im just debating if they kinda throw the UI off or not |
| 11:40.15 | bleeter | cladhaire: well... some guys @ Uni ripped all the voice stuff out of portal... threw it on their iPod, and put it on random at the end of semester pissup... it was kinda amusing |
| 11:40.21 | art3mis | rayne: personally with what you've got... i'd got for a slightly dark red 2cherry look as borders |
| 11:40.31 | bleeter | cladhaire: random voicing can work, sometime ;) |
| 11:40.42 | art3mis | or random tree branches from the edges with cherrys hanging |
| 11:40.43 | cladhaire | ooh UnitIsDead() |
| 11:40.47 | Rayne | <PROTECTED> |
| 11:40.48 | cladhaire | that's a fun one |
| 11:40.54 | art3mis | that sorta thing, only interwove so they fit into the theme |
| 11:41.02 | Rayne | im not even sure if I like the "borders" on my action bars... |
| 11:41.03 | cladhaire | okay |
| 11:41.04 | cladhaire | shower time |
| 11:41.07 | art3mis | not a solid border |
| 11:41.37 | art3mis | just sort you know a couple clumps at the bottom left and a branch/cherrys across the top from the right edge |
| 11:41.43 | art3mis | that type of look |
| 11:42.04 | Rayne | hmm... |
| 11:42.18 | Rayne | im glad I took Jellys suggestion on the chat frame though |
| 11:42.25 | Rayne | one of the pieces of the UI I really like |
| 11:42.49 | art3mis | borders are really tricky if you want them to add pizzazz/feeling without like they were put there on purpose |
| 11:42.59 | art3mis | the gradient border? |
| 11:43.46 | Rayne | yeah |
| 11:44.14 | art3mis | yeah i like that look on most, i generally just theme it whatever colour or solid black it |
| 11:44.36 | art3mis | the only layout thing with yours that im not keen on is the buttons right against the bottom |
| 11:44.50 | Rayne | something ive always done |
| 11:44.51 | art3mis | but thats just because i play in windowed mode alot and if i need to click... |
| 11:45.07 | Rayne | yeah I do too :P I tab in and out of WoW so much... |
| 11:45.24 | Rayne | WoW, Firefox, MSN, Photoshop, almost constantly open |
| 11:45.27 | Rayne | Winamp too |
| 11:45.55 | Rayne | ill move the bars off the bottom and see what happens |
| 11:46.28 | art3mis | just like half a block |
| 11:46.35 | art3mis | or a 1/3 block |
| 11:46.40 | art3mis | i like that font though |
| 11:46.47 | Rayne | shit I dont have align installed... |
| 11:46.51 | art3mis | heh |
| 11:46.59 | Rayne | ill just do it the cheap way |
| 11:47.11 | Rayne | align it with the bottom of the Rock Window :B |
| 11:51.47 | Rayne | http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v442/SinOfDreams/WoWScrnShot_110807_065047.jpg I suppose it could grow on me |
| 11:51.53 | Rayne | also lol @ eepanels |
| 11:54.45 | dreamss | lo |
| 11:55.24 | art3mis | http://www.gothi.ca/Stuff/newuf.jpg |
| 11:55.25 | Rayne | hiya |
| 11:55.32 | art3mis | thats what im mucking with right now |
| 11:55.42 | art3mis | thats the config shot |
| 11:55.56 | art3mis | and btw thats all done with dahud ;P |
| 11:56.00 | Industrial | portrait why |
| 11:56.00 | bleeter | wtf http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V2_ueohYRhU |
| 11:56.14 | art3mis | Industrial: its just like that to stop me from killing benumbed ;P |
| 11:56.31 | art3mis | he put a border around the player frame but no the target frame for some reason |
| 11:56.32 | Industrial | <no idea> |
| 11:56.56 | art3mis | the border thats around my portrait i need to go hack remove |
| 11:56.57 | art3mis | heh |
| 11:57.41 | art3mis | little face in the center is pet the one to the far tight is ToT |
| 11:58.01 | art3mis | and ive got elk's buff bars for mine so they arent shown there |
| 11:58.12 | dreamss | any of u tried restos hamans on ptr? |
| 11:58.27 | Rayne | it looks way too...unorganized :/ |
| 11:58.47 | Rayne | I only tanked on the PTR, and im so excited to get my guild in ZA on Tuesday night |
| 11:59.06 | art3mis | thats a full view, most of the time it doesnt display all that |
| 11:59.07 | dreamss | how is it |
| 11:59.28 | Rayne | love it |
| 11:59.31 | Rayne | its soooo fun |
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| 12:00.18 | dreamss | all gear checks? |
| 12:01.02 | Rayne | Kara -> Gruuls -> ZA -> Beyond |
| 12:01.12 | Rayne | actually you COULD swap Gruuls and ZA |
| 12:01.25 | dreamss | u can swap az with ssc |
| 12:01.29 | dreamss | apart from the attument |
| 12:01.30 | dreamss | :P |
| 12:01.56 | art3mis | heh attunement should be a head from each boss in naxx ;P |
| 12:01.57 | Rayne | SSC doesnt need an attunement anymore... |
| 12:02.21 | Rayne | and im VERY upset at Blizz for Re-Using Naxx in WotLK :/ |
| 12:02.27 | Rayne | just...lazy |
| 12:02.34 | art3mis | depends how they retool it |
| 12:02.39 | Rayne | reduce the mobs, skin the t3, done |
| 12:02.41 | Rayne | so stupid :/ |
| 12:02.48 | art3mis | cuz honestly it doesnt fit anywhere in the world without wotlk |
| 12:03.14 | Rayne | hmm... |
| 12:03.24 | art3mis | it was a filler dungeon just to keep people happy until tbc |
| 12:03.46 | Rayne | Killing Kel'thuzad =/= Filler |
| 12:03.58 | Rayne | A Filler would be some random guy they added to the lore |
| 12:04.00 | art3mis | it does when it doesnt fit ANYWHERE ;) |
| 12:04.04 | Rayne | not a major character |
| 12:04.17 | art3mis | that wasnt the real one anyways ;P |
| 12:04.22 | Rayne | ... |
| 12:04.26 | art3mis | did wc3 teach you nothing ;P |
| 12:04.26 | dreamss | <fn'Rayne> SSC doesnt need an attunement anymore... |
| 12:04.32 | art3mis | that fucker dies like 800 times |
| 12:04.37 | dreamss | u need ssc for mount hyjal |
| 12:04.55 | Rayne | thats not what I meant, you dont need an attunement to get into it. |
| 12:04.58 | art3mis | dreams but you dont need to get attuned to get into ssc |
| 12:05.11 | dreamss | i meant u could skip ssc and do za |
| 12:05.14 | dreamss | for gear |
| 12:05.22 | dreamss | but u need ssc for attuement |
| 12:05.23 | dreamss | heh |
| 12:05.24 | dreamss | :P |
| 12:05.25 | Rayne | not really...some of the gear is better, some is par |
| 12:05.27 | art3mis | i will admit of all the dungeons naxx was the best though ;P |
| 12:05.34 | Rayne | its helping casual guilds, which I have |
| 12:05.39 | art3mis | they just put it in at a bad time |
| 12:05.54 | Rayne | AQ 40 was more fun to me |
| 12:06.01 | art3mis | had it been put in at the tail of tbc when woltk was scheduled to come out THAT would have made more sense |
| 12:06.02 | dreamss | u know what i love? lvl 70s bitching they cant dps patchwork |
| 12:06.19 | art3mis | i miss the floating ziggs ;) |
| 12:06.19 | Rayne | lewl |
| 12:06.36 | dreamss | i swear to god, 40 lvl 70s |
| 12:06.39 | Rayne | i always hated that fight |
| 12:06.39 | dreamss | cant dps patchwork |
| 12:07.05 | art3mis | did you suggest they ebay thier charcters and take up basketball? |
| 12:07.11 | dreamss | most ppl that joined WOW after bc came out due the changes will have a good chance to experience the istance |
| 12:07.24 | dreamss | not a bad idea imo |
| 12:07.43 | dreamss | raiders who allready cleared naxx will bitch of course :P |
| 12:07.44 | art3mis | hrm 23 hours awake... i think imma go nap for a while |
| 12:07.50 | art3mis | maybe |
| 12:08.05 | Rayne | ive out dpsed almost one of every class as a prot warrior :/ I know the different between new and experienced :/ |
| 12:08.08 | art3mis | raiders tht did naxx and then went to tbc should be stoked to get to do/relearn naxx all over |
| 12:08.25 | Rayne | when you beat a mage by almost 10%, something is seriously fucking wrong, same with a hunter or rogue. |
| 12:08.27 | dreamss | free gear for them |
| 12:08.33 | dreamss | as long foghts dont change |
| 12:08.35 | dreamss | heh |
| 12:08.35 | bleeter | I always got the impression that Naxx was bolted on from the design lessons they learned from doing up BC, and from AQ |
| 12:08.40 | art3mis | wow |
| 12:08.48 | art3mis | prot warr beat a mage by 10%? |
| 12:08.57 | Rayne | yup |
| 12:09.07 | art3mis | was he naked wand level 4? |
| 12:09.08 | Rayne | ive also seen mages in BGs with healing gear on :/ |
| 12:09.15 | Rayne | no just sucked horribly |
| 12:09.21 | dreamss | it will have +dmg after the patch! |
| 12:09.27 | Rayne | lol... |
| 12:09.32 | dreamss | .. yes but no crit |
| 12:09.34 | dreamss | dumdum |
| 12:09.46 | art3mis | yeah i miss world events |
| 12:09.54 | art3mis | i expected something awesome for tbc |
| 12:09.57 | Rayne | theres going to be one for ZA |
| 12:10.07 | art3mis | but got a lame flood of mobs kill them quest ;P |
| 12:10.12 | dreamss | trolls in the forum event? |
| 12:10.13 | dreamss | :P |
| 12:10.19 | art3mis | the AQ world event was awesome |
| 12:10.29 | dreamss | i hated silitus |
| 12:10.31 | art3mis | the naxx opening and flying ziggs was awesome |
| 12:10.33 | dreamss | SO MUCH |
| 12:10.41 | Rayne | aparently there will be one for the Sunwell too |
| 12:10.45 | art3mis | they just needed to do it now instead of before tbc ;P |
| 12:11.03 | dreamss | i like they changing classes instead of making events :P |
| 12:11.08 | art3mis | cuz honestly hyjal and outland aint got nothing on kel and arthas ;P |
| 12:11.11 | bleeter | I hope they bring back the scourge invasion for wotlk |
| 12:11.16 | dreamss | shamans been fubar since bc came out |
| 12:11.19 | bleeter | 'coz iirc, they did say they wanted to bring that back |
| 12:11.29 | Rayne | What I want to know |
| 12:11.30 | bleeter | and it'd suit the whole naxx moving thing |
| 12:11.33 | art3mis | a whole campaing of scourge would be great |
| 12:11.40 | Rayne | is where theyre putting the docks to Northrend |
| 12:11.41 | art3mis | campaign |
| 12:11.49 | art3mis | complete with zergs of major cities |
| 12:11.52 | dreamss | is the dragonflight fighting undead in outlands? |
| 12:12.25 | dreamss | that be major coolness imo |
| 12:12.25 | bleeter | i still think once a month some kill-fest lvl 75+ mob should randomly open cans of whoopass on the big cities, like before BC |
| 12:12.25 | art3mis | hehe yeah |
| 12:12.25 | bleeter | 'coz that was hell fun |
| 12:12.31 | dreamss | i hope they do something for dalaran |
| 12:12.34 | art3mis | ya know what would signal wotlk great? |
| 12:12.41 | bleeter | farts? |
| 12:12.44 | dreamss | at least a lil detail like "lot for sale" |
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| 12:12.53 | art3mis | the plauge bursting out after a seige of the major cities and converting/removing a lot of the npcs |
| 12:12.54 | Rayne | oh they always do that |
| 12:13.11 | dreamss | the deadcarts |
| 12:13.14 | art3mis | yeah |
| 12:13.15 | Rayne | I wanna know what theyre doing with that troll in shatt that was selling necklaces they kicked out |
| 12:13.16 | dreamss | or whatever they called |
| 12:13.19 | art3mis | meat wagons ftw! |
| 12:13.22 | dreamss | YES |
| 12:13.26 | bleeter | Rayne: he's comin' back in in 2.3 |
| 12:13.37 | bleeter | he's got the hula girl for engis! |
| 12:13.41 | dreamss | they giving him a story? |
| 12:13.47 | Rayne | really? O_o I dont remember seeing him on the PTR |
| 12:13.56 | bleeter | apparently the story's been going on since BC release |
| 12:14.05 | Rayne | hey Art |
| 12:14.08 | dreamss | they moved a npc by him |
| 12:14.08 | Rayne | sincee you saw the SS |
| 12:14.10 | dreamss | who was " |
| 12:14.15 | dreamss | watching him" |
| 12:14.34 | dreamss | dint notice he was gone after that |
| 12:14.35 | dreamss | heh |
| 12:14.43 | Rayne | would it look good if I removed the Cherries from the Omen Window and put them somewhere else? And just mirrored the flower graphic behind omen? |
| 12:14.57 | art3mis | omen needs a border imo |
| 12:15.03 | dreamss | waste of space |
| 12:15.05 | dreamss | imo :P |
| 12:15.14 | art3mis | its too clean to need a background |
| 12:15.31 | Rayne | im getting kinda bored of it lol |
| 12:15.33 | Rayne | thats the thing |
| 12:15.36 | art3mis | heh |
| 12:15.41 | art3mis | ya know what you should do? |
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| 12:15.48 | art3mis | do what jelly did and muck with duf |
| 12:15.50 | dreamss | the event they did for thrall was very cool |
| 12:15.51 | dreamss | btw |
| 12:15.59 | art3mis | and make the hp/mp things cherries ;P |
| 12:16.05 | Rayne | I dont really like using DUS anymore |
| 12:16.18 | Rayne | and after all the messing with Pitbull, no friggin way |
| 12:16.25 | art3mis | heh |
| 12:16.46 | art3mis | i'd go tree border for omen with cherries in bottom left and a big smaller ;P |
| 12:16.57 | art3mis | maybe a bit of grass along the bottom ;P |
| 12:17.20 | Rayne | ... |
| 12:17.23 | art3mis | smokes done... time for bed |
| 12:17.40 | art3mis | grass just in that corner not along the whole thing |
| 12:20.05 | clad|away | quite the odd assortment at the moment: http://wowi.pastey.net/76795 |
| 12:20.15 | clad|away | yay for allowing hash tables to dictate my workflow |
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| 12:27.22 | Rayne | hmm |
| 12:27.30 | Rayne | so whos left? lol |
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| 12:31.59 | dreamss | lol |
| 12:32.05 | dreamss | reading the last guardian |
| 12:32.09 | dreamss | pretty good |
| 12:32.39 | Rayne | lewl |
| 12:33.02 | Rayne | I need to put Omen somewhere ;_; cant find anywhere too |
| 12:33.20 | dreamss | i suck at uis |
| 12:33.23 | dreamss | horibly |
| 12:33.26 | Rayne | lol |
| 12:36.13 | dreamss | for a wizard living on the butt-end of nowhere.. |
| 12:36.14 | dreamss | lol |
| 12:37.06 | dreamss | its fun reading about kz after u raid it |
| 12:37.31 | Rayne | People amaze me |
| 12:37.45 | Rayne | "I was also having trouble with the tooltips. I read that someone else had a similar problem but the suggestion you made to him isn't working for me for some reason. When i type /ttw unlock, it doesn't recognize the command. Thanks" |
| 12:38.03 | Rayne | Or maybe you could look in the addon list and see I dont USE TTW anymore. |
| 12:38.09 | Rayne | and that its NOT in your addons folder. |
| 12:38.10 | Rayne | :| |
| 12:39.33 | Rayne | Also, http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v442/SinOfDreams/WoWScrnShot_110807_073645.jpg |
| 12:39.41 | Rayne | cant find anywhere to put omen now ;_; |
| 12:41.24 | dreamss | next to your spells |
| 12:41.34 | dreamss | or close to what u pay attencion the most |
| 12:41.35 | dreamss | imo |
| 12:41.45 | Rayne | the middle of my screen? sure. |
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| 12:42.55 | Rayne | do you like the bottom right hand corner? |
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| 13:06.27 | Rayne | http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v442/SinOfDreams/WoWScrnShot_110807_075726.jpg and with that, I go to bed. |
| 13:08.09 | dreamss | gn |
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| 15:20.56 | Industrial | How is druid DPS calculated? |
| 15:21.03 | Industrial | totally by stats? |
| 15:21.20 | Industrial | str/agi? |
| 15:21.27 | Industrial | er, in cat/bear form |
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| 15:39.55 | |Jelly| | ~hug Lopeppeppy |
| 15:39.56 | purl | ACTION hugs Lopeppeppy tightly until Lopeppeppy turns slightly blue |
| 15:43.41 | Lopeppeppy | Good morning, Jelly! |
| 15:43.51 | |Jelly| | Good morning! :) |
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| 15:51.30 | |Jelly| | ~hug Cairenn |
| 15:51.31 | purl | ACTION gets a running start and tackle-hugs Cairenn |
| 15:52.08 | Lopeppeppy | Morning, Cairenn. Glad Jelly saved some hugs for you too. |
| 15:52.25 | Cairenn | Morning Lopeppeppy. Me too. :) |
| 15:52.36 | |Jelly| | :) |
| 15:52.52 | *** topic/#wowi-lounge by Cairenn -> #wowi-lounge: Paste Code Here: http://wowi.pastey.net | 2.2.x ToC: 20200 | RTFPN please | WoWI Mod Uploader! http://www.wowinterface.com/forums/showthread.php?t=12821| "Laugh at me now, go ahead, say I'm crazy." - Cidan |
| 15:56.42 | Shirik | ~laugh Cide |
| 15:56.42 | purl | ibot laughs hysterically at Cide...ow! laughing so hard, it can't breathe... gasp...gasp...gasp.... ..... ... |
| 15:56.45 | Shirik | damn it! |
| 15:56.53 | Shirik | I give up |
| 15:57.02 | |Jelly| | ~fail Shirik |
| 15:57.03 | purl | Shirik: Fail. |
| 15:57.04 | Mr_Rabies2 | http://www.break.com/index/cat_refuses_to_exercise.html |
| 15:57.05 | Mr_Rabies2 | :O |
| 16:02.56 | Industrial | rofl |
| 16:03.00 | Industrial | thats so like me |
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| 16:04.44 | |Jelly| | HAI COG |
| 16:05.12 | cog|work | MONIN JELLO |
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| 16:07.38 | Industrial | heh warchiefs blessing + rallying cry of the dragonslayer |
| 16:08.01 | cog|work | finally got my license plate and i can't even drive the car... My other car needs me to drive it so its computer can go through the self-checks or i won't pass smog :( |
| 16:08.15 | |Jelly| | rofl |
| 16:08.16 | clad | lol |
| 16:08.55 | Lopeppeppy | Oh dear! *hugs Cogwheel* |
| 16:09.39 | cog|work | Anyone else see the irony that in order to prove my car isn't putting out tons of smog I have to drive it around arbitrarily until the self-test works out? |
| 16:10.12 | Lopeppeppy | I expect a great deal of irony in governance. |
| 16:10.15 | cog|work | luckily the smog place i go to will run the computer checks for free before doing the whole shebang |
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| 17:04.20 | Lukian | I wish wow had a cake tabard icon :( |
| 17:04.34 | cog|work | the cake is a lie |
| 17:04.48 | Lukian | http://img225.imageshack.us/my.php?image=thecakeisaliefp6.jpg |
| 17:04.48 | dreamss | NO |
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| 17:18.57 | zenzelezz | I've been hearing "the cake is a lie" lately... someone explain the origin plix |
| 17:19.49 | dreamss | 2 sources i belive |
| 17:19.58 | MentalPower | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Portal_(video_game) |
| 17:20.05 | dreamss | cake thing portal |
| 17:20.10 | dreamss | and a comic |
| 17:20.26 | kd3 | the reference in the comic is to portal |
| 17:20.37 | zenzelezz | aha |
| 17:20.39 | dreamss | well yeah |
| 17:21.02 | MentalPower | Among the messages are hints that "the cake is a lie" and other cryptic phrases, as well as photos of people with a Companion Cube drawn over their face. |
| 17:21.12 | kadrahil | the portal gun |
| 17:21.15 | Thunder_Child | and everyone jumped on the bandwagon like a bunch of sheep |
| 17:21.21 | kadrahil | that reminds me of the gravity gun from hl2 |
| 17:22.02 | Cairenn | ~fail Cairenn |
| 17:22.03 | purl | Cairenn: Fail. |
| 17:22.13 | kd3 | ? |
| 17:22.22 | Cairenn|afk | that was for dolby-wowi__ |
| 17:22.29 | dreamss | http://cakeisalie.ytmnd.com/ |
| 17:22.31 | zenzelezz | O_o |
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| 17:23.31 | kadrahil | heh, i am going to go to regular mech |
| 17:23.42 | kadrahil | solo the first mob until i can get my last 500 rep |
| 17:23.47 | kadrahil | impossible to find a group ;( |
| 17:24.00 | clad | i need to do the same with CoT |
| 17:24.05 | clad | but nothing in black morass gives rep |
| 17:24.09 | clad | except the rift lords, right? |
| 17:24.37 | kadrahil | yeah i'm pretty sure |
| 17:24.49 | kadrahil | i'm almost exalted with CoT heh |
| 17:24.53 | kadrahil | just from running normal BM so many times |
| 17:25.10 | clad | i need 3 rep |
| 17:25.10 | kadrahil | Mana Tombs (heroic (must have Lower City: Revered)) 1200 6 |
| 17:25.11 | clad | literally |
| 17:25.14 | kadrahil | lol |
| 17:26.23 | kadrahil | looks like i only need to clear heroic UB 6 times for exalted cenarion |
| 17:26.49 | kadrahil | <3 wowreputationcalculator |
| 17:28.24 | dreamss | http://www.vgcats.com/comics/images/071025.jpg |
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| 17:35.50 | Lopeppeppy | kadrahil, is that a mod or a site? Sounds like something to recommend to my pallies for their rep grinds. |
| 17:36.54 | Shirik | dreamss: nice |
| 17:36.56 | JoshBorke | kadrahil: i thought you stopped playing your hunter |
| 17:38.15 | JoshBorke | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:38.51 | clad | uhh |
| 17:39.15 | clad | Someone had an issue with LightHeaded, where it wouldn't load. The solution: "Yes , i found the solution , in the security center from vista , when i desactive the user account security control i can see the text." |
| 17:39.22 | clad | wtf? |
| 17:39.32 | haste_ | wth :D |
| 17:39.44 | clad | i mean honestly, how does that make sense |
| 17:39.57 | clad | Is it no way to keep the security and work with the addon ??? WOW was launched in Administrator mode. |
| 17:40.25 | zenzelezz | Vista decided that text was a security risk |
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| 17:41.32 | Lopeppeppy | Accept or deny? |
| 17:41.54 | clad | Lopepeppy asked "Accept or deny?". Accept or Deny? |
| 17:43.03 | cog|work | Lopeppeppy: site |
| 17:43.10 | JoshBorke | location |
| 17:43.54 | cog|work | clad: disabling UAC probably disabled the virtual store so WoW was actually looking in the Program Files folder for the lightheaded data. |
| 17:44.02 | cog|work | instead of the user's virtual store folder |
| 17:44.16 | cog|work | which is why people shouldn't run wow from program files on vista |
| 17:44.16 | clad | hrm, i'm not really sure what any of that means |
| 17:44.46 | Thunder_Child | it means that vista screws with the program files folder |
| 17:44.46 | JoshBorke | vista is the lose |
| 17:44.52 | cog|work | wrong |
| 17:45.05 | cog|work | software developers that use their program's folder to store data are the lose |
| 17:45.17 | Thunder_Child | but i wouldnt know, i have never installed anything there |
| 17:45.31 | cog|work | I love WoW's self-containedness but it goes against "best practices" |
| 17:46.01 | Mr_Rabies2 | <cog|work> software developers that use their program's folder to store data are the lose |
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| 17:46.03 | Mr_Rabies2 | i love it |
| 17:46.06 | Mr_Rabies2 | screw the registry |
| 17:46.09 | clad | i happen to disagree |
| 17:46.14 | clad | why shouldn't data be a part of the software being used? |
| 17:46.23 | Mr_Rabies2 | i love when programs are self contained |
| 17:46.30 | clad | indeed |
| 17:46.33 | Mr_Rabies2 | so i can just load it up on a flash drive or copy the folder across the network and play |
| 17:46.40 | cog|work | i love it too |
| 17:46.41 | clad | sounds like a misplaced diagnosis of "best practices" |
| 17:46.49 | Mr_Rabies2 | i hate having to install programs |
| 17:46.54 | Mr_Rabies2 | and deal with all that registry bloat |
| 17:47.03 | cog|work | but it's not the way programs are supposed to behave in multi-user environments |
| 17:47.12 | clad | Why not? |
| 17:47.31 | clad | I mean, i agree with you |
| 17:47.32 | JoshBorke | no per user settings |
| 17:47.40 | clad | but *shrug* |
| 17:47.46 | foxlit | Josh: per-machine settings? |
| 17:47.58 | clad | well, multi-user installs ina single user setting are the lose, plain and simple :P |
| 17:48.01 | clad | thats why i like having the optino |
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| 17:48.06 | foxlit | Don't try to launch wow at 2400x1200 with 8x FSAA on your laptop? |
| 17:48.46 | cog|work | clad: compare with unix... |
| 17:49.11 | clad | in unix there is a machine conf file, and per user conf override |
| 17:49.14 | cog|work | should programs write their configuration settings to /bin where the exe resides? |
| 17:49.16 | clad | and that's how i feel it should be |
| 17:49.41 | cog|work | (using "exe" losely) |
| 17:49.45 | cog|work | (using "exe" loosely) |
| 17:50.07 | clad | *shrug* i don't think that's a fair comparison |
| 17:50.25 | clad | and the point is, no.. the conf files are stored in /etc |
| 17:50.31 | clad | and the user overrides are int he user's home directory |
| 17:50.49 | cog|work | exactly |
| 17:51.04 | clad | I'm agreeing with you, that in a multi-user environment WoW doesn't have a great design (think cyber cafe) |
| 17:51.28 | clad | but to claim that software best practices dictate somethign as specific as this seems rather silly |
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| 17:51.55 | clad | thats too broad of a generalization |
| 17:51.58 | clad | Take SciTe |
| 17:51.59 | cog|work | what's so specific about "don't write data to program files"? |
| 17:52.03 | clad | global and per-user preferences |
| 17:52.09 | clad | can be unzipped anywhere you want |
| 17:52.20 | Mr_Rabies2 | the only problem with wow's temp store |
| 17:52.24 | clad | cog|work: the writing of data isn't the problem.. the fact that a user can't put their data in the program fiels directory _is_ imo |
| 17:52.25 | Mr_Rabies2 | is it stores under your account name |
| 17:52.32 | Mr_Rabies2 | which can be an issue at cybercafes and stuff |
| 17:52.43 | Mr_Rabies2 | they have half the info they need to gain access to accounts |
| 17:53.10 | clad | Mr_Rabies2: agreed, that does suck |
| 17:53.22 | clad | cog|work: there isn't just one way to do things, is my point |
| 17:53.28 | foxlit | You don't trust the cyber cafe, or you don't trust other users? |
| 17:53.32 | clad | foxlit: yes |
| 17:53.33 | clad | :P |
| 17:53.35 | cog|work | clad but windows is designed to work in a certain way |
| 17:53.39 | cog|work | and people don't follow it |
| 17:53.42 | foxlit | If it's the latter, cyber cafe can clear WTF when you sign out |
| 17:53.43 | clad | cog|work: ah, see you didn't mentino a word about windows |
| 17:53.45 | clad | which is what bothered me |
| 17:53.51 | cog|work | which is why so many people are having problems with vista |
| 17:53.52 | foxlit | If you don't trust the cyber cafe, you're screwed. |
| 17:54.07 | foxlit | You'll never be able to certify that the machine isn't logging your password as well. |
| 17:54.08 | cog|work | clad: the whole conversation was based on vista troubles :P |
| 17:54.20 | Kamma | Hey, is there anyone here that can explain how Auctioneer takes care of double counting when scanning? |
| 17:54.24 | clad | you claimed "software best practices" |
| 17:54.42 | Kamma | I'm writing a bare bones scanning mod |
| 17:54.52 | cog|work | clad: l2context imo |
| 17:54.54 | cog|work | :P |
| 17:55.00 | clad | same2you? |
| 17:55.07 | cog|work | I was responding directly to Thunder_Child's and JoshBorke's indictments of vista |
| 17:55.14 | JoshBorke | VISTA FTL! |
| 17:55.15 | cog|work | and i was saying that it was the software makers |
| 17:55.24 | cog|work | not vista |
| 17:55.31 | clad | with the claim of "software best practices" rather than "Microsoft best practices" |
| 17:55.47 | clad | I'm not saying Vista is in the wrong |
| 17:55.53 | cog|work | like i said |
| 17:55.58 | cog|work | i was under the context of vista |
| 17:56.26 | JoshBorke | ~whalenuke the room |
| 17:56.30 | purl | ACTION dons his radiation cloak and tinted glasses while a highly intelligent whale named Ray precipitates critical mass for uncontrolled nuclear fission around the room with his mind powers |
| 17:56.30 | clad | *shrug* the conversation at multiple points was discussing software in general, all I was trying to do was specify my position |
| 17:56.30 | cog|work | you just grew the context of my statement without my authorization. I will sue you now. |
| 17:56.34 | cog|work | :P |
| 17:56.35 | clad | cog|work: try it bish |
| 17:56.38 | clad | i'll cut you |
| 17:56.42 | clad | and then sue you for letting me cut you |
| 17:56.44 | clad | i'd win too |
| 17:56.49 | Beladona | vista is my favorite windows os |
| 17:57.03 | Beladona | there is no reason to make sweeping generalizations that it "fails" |
| 17:57.10 | JoshBorke | Beladona: masochist :-P |
| 17:57.13 | Beladona | its a matter of opinion |
| 17:57.59 | clad | alright, off to dinner |
| 17:58.00 | clad | bye! |
| 17:58.08 | Beladona | while I do agree that in it's current state it may not be good for the general populace, I think that a majority of the "issues" are related to the user |
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| 17:58.19 | Beladona | and misconceptions |
| 18:00.05 | cog|work | (winning the suit against me for allowing him to cut me, that is) |
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| 18:17.03 | Xuerian | Beladona: I like various features of it, but it seems to be very resource hungry ontop of the commonly tossed up issues |
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| 18:17.56 | Cide | I've found most of the "commonly tossed up issues" to be false |
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| 18:18.55 | Beladona | agreed |
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| 18:19.07 | Lopeppeppy | Misunderstanding breeds a lot of contempt, whatever the basis of the misunderstanding is. *shrug* |
| 18:19.19 | Beladona | much of the hate attributed to Vista is "ZOMGWTFCHANGE!" |
| 18:20.31 | Beladona | "cannot wrap head around changes, so I will do it the old way evne though it isn't the way you do it now in vista. Then when it fails we will bitch about vista because it doesn't let us do it the old way, even though it told us so to begin with" |
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| 18:21.16 | Mr_Rabies2 | i'm just waiting for the issues to be worked out |
| 18:21.19 | Mr_Rabies2 | till sp1 or so |
| 18:21.29 | Lopeppeppy | Sounds about how like the converting of websites from Dreamweaver to CMS is going, Beladona. |
| 18:21.30 | cog|work | which "the issues"? |
| 18:21.33 | Thunder_Child | 3-4 months is to long |
| 18:21.42 | Mr_Rabies2 | lots of backwards compatibilities problems |
| 18:21.48 | Mr_Rabies2 | even worse than xp with older games |
| 18:21.57 | Mr_Rabies2 | like tribes 1 has to be hacked up to work in vista |
| 18:23.09 | Thunder_Child | you will spend $250 to get the latest OS, but wont pay money to get something other than an old ass free game? |
| 18:23.33 | cog|work | most of the forced practices in Vista were "best" practices in XP but no one paid attention because the old way still worked. That's the root of the vast majority of incompatibilities |
| 18:23.33 | Thunder_Child | (even if it is a good one) |
| 18:23.33 | Lopeppeppy | Sometimes the "old-ass free games" are the best thing you've ever played. No reason why you should have to give them all up. |
| 18:23.40 | cog|work | so there's no point in waiting because most of the "issues" will not be "fixed" |
| 18:23.42 | Mr_Rabies2 | Thunder_Child, it's one of the best games of all time |
| 18:23.47 | Mr_Rabies2 | second only to TF2 for me |
| 18:24.00 | cog|work | (emphasis on "most" :P ) |
| 18:24.08 | Mr_Rabies2 | cog|work, Tribes came out in 1998 |
| 18:24.17 | Mr_Rabies2 | vista wasn't even a twinkle in microsoft's eye |
| 18:24.29 | Mr_Rabies2 | my gripes are, there's no step forward |
| 18:24.39 | cog|work | Mr_Rabies2: that makes it legitimately backwards-incompatible, imo |
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| 18:25.03 | Mr_Rabies2 | why spend 250 for something that is worse off overall |
| 18:25.03 | Thunder_Child | you dont have to give it up, i am simply saying dont bitch that it has to be hacked to work with something new |
| 18:25.10 | Mr_Rabies2 | there's nothing in vista that i care about that i can't do in xp |
| 18:25.20 | cog|work | Mr_Rabies2: that's why I keep my copy of win98 around |
| 18:25.22 | kd3 | heh... excuse me while I fall out of my chair |
| 18:25.28 | cog|work | it dual-boots nicely |
| 18:25.31 | kd3 | people complaining about hacking apps to get them to work in a new OS |
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| 18:26.24 | Mr_Rabies2 | there's no reason it shouldn't be backwards compatible, and it hear it's an issue with a lot of older opengl games |
| 18:26.35 | Beladona | the "tribes1 has to be hacked up to work in vista" and similar complaints are all centered around people totally not understanding how UAC works |
| 18:26.53 | Beladona | of course old programs are not going to work with UAC |
| 18:26.57 | Mr_Rabies2 | most people i know just turn uac off |
| 18:26.58 | Beladona | run them as administrator |
| 18:27.00 | Beladona | duh |
| 18:27.12 | Thunder_Child | Mr_Rabies2, at some point it's simply not worth it to go backwards compatible after a certian point |
| 18:27.13 | Beladona | I keep uac on |
| 18:27.29 | Mr_Rabies2 | Thunder_Child, at some point it's simply not worth it to upgrade after a certain point |
| 18:27.41 | Mr_Rabies2 | there's nothing i care about enough in vista to upgrade |
| 18:27.47 | Mr_Rabies2 | so why cut off my options and add more overhead |
| 18:27.53 | Beladona | its like bitching that a cd player sucks because you can't put vinyl records in it |
| 18:27.59 | Beladona | seriously |
| 18:28.11 | Thunder_Child | so dont, but dont bitch about vista |
| 18:28.18 | Mr_Rabies2 | i'm not bitching about vista |
| 18:28.23 | Mr_Rabies2 | i simply said i'll buy it when i think it's worth it |
| 18:28.25 | Thunder_Child | eh?, sounded like it |
| 18:28.26 | Beladona | not you specifically |
| 18:28.32 | Mr_Rabies2 | <Mr_Rabies2> i'm just waiting for the issues to be worked out |
| 18:28.32 | Mr_Rabies2 | <Mr_Rabies2> till sp1 or so |
| 18:28.44 | Beladona | but there are a lot of people that use that as an argument for "no one should use vista" |
| 18:28.50 | Mr_Rabies2 | sp1 is my current benchmark to re-review its usefulness |
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| 18:29.07 | Thunder_Child | thats what...jan next year? |
| 18:29.09 | Mr_Rabies2 | if it's still not useful to me i won't use it until i deem it necessary |
| 18:29.10 | cog|work | Mr_Rabies2: I think everyone waiting for sp1 is just getting their hopes up |
| 18:29.11 | Beladona | I don't deny that there are plenty of issues that need to be worked out in vista |
| 18:29.14 | Thunder_Child | maybe feb... |
| 18:29.18 | Beladona | but if anyone remembers xp |
| 18:29.20 | cog|work | most of the problems aren't problems with the OS |
| 18:29.22 | Beladona | when it released |
| 18:29.24 | Mr_Rabies2 | sure, beladona |
| 18:29.26 | cog|work | they're problems with the software |
| 18:29.26 | Mr_Rabies2 | i was the same about xp |
| 18:29.27 | Beladona | it was the same exact thing |
| 18:29.36 | Mr_Rabies2 | i refused to use XP until the issues got worked out |
| 18:29.43 | Mr_Rabies2 | and now it's a beast of an OS |
| 18:30.26 | Mr_Rabies2 | cog|work, if you're paying money for something that's marketed as an upgrade, shouldn't it be an upgrade? |
| 18:30.29 | Beladona | personally, and this is totally my own opinion, Vista is the best Microsoft OS so far. I use it at work and at home, and I haven't looked back since |
| 18:30.44 | Beladona | but not everyone will have the same experience |
| 18:30.46 | cog|work | Mr_Rabies2: it's not the OS that's the problem, it's the software |
| 18:30.58 | Mr_Rabies2 | shouldn't they make it work with software that worked fine in xp? |
| 18:31.02 | Beladona | no |
| 18:31.03 | cog|work | No |
| 18:31.04 | Beladona | hell no |
| 18:31.06 | Mr_Rabies2 | why not? |
| 18:31.16 | Mr_Rabies2 | why should i pay to remove functionality |
| 18:31.19 | Mr_Rabies2 | that makes no sense at all |
| 18:31.20 | Beladona | because software always has, and always will be, programmed and innovated for the platform |
| 18:31.22 | Beladona | not the other way around |
| 18:31.24 | cog|work | it's not removing functionality |
| 18:31.26 | Mr_Rabies2 | there's no additional functionality worth paying for |
| 18:31.28 | Mr_Rabies2 | sure there is |
| 18:31.35 | Mr_Rabies2 | if i can't play tribes on it, it's removing functionality |
| 18:31.42 | |Jelly| | To me, this is the same as bitching when Blizzard "breaks addons" ... |
| 18:31.44 | Thunder_Child | heh |
| 18:31.44 | Mr_Rabies2 | and i'm not gaining anything worthwhile to offset that |
| 18:31.45 | Thunder_Child | (10:32:18) (Mr_Rabies2) there's no additional functionality worth paying for |
| 18:31.46 | Thunder_Child | (10:32:20) (Mr_Rabies2) sure there is |
| 18:31.49 | cog|work | Mr_Rabies2: how do you feel about blizzard breaking addons? |
| 18:31.52 | Beladona | its naive to say that there is no additional functionality worth paying for |
| 18:31.56 | MentalPower | if tribes has issues with UAC, just run it as Admin, problem solved |
| 18:32.03 | Beladona | security, programming features, that are tons of them |
| 18:32.08 | Mr_Rabies2 | cog|work, it sucks, but as long as there's active developers it's not a problem |
| 18:32.13 | Beladona | programs just haven't harnessed them yet |
| 18:32.14 | Mr_Rabies2 | especially with the code all being open source |
| 18:33.11 | Mr_Rabies2 | if tribes was open source i wouldn't have a problem with it i suppose |
| 18:33.11 | cog|work | not open source |
| 18:33.11 | cog|work | exposed source |
| 18:33.11 | cog|work | :P |
| 18:33.11 | Mr_Rabies2 | same thing really, as far as i'm concerned |
| 18:33.11 | Beladona | if you look a the basic MS programs, designed ffor Vista, you will see plenty of "new" things |
| 18:33.11 | Mr_Rabies2 | it's free and available and i'll do what i want with it |
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| 18:33.24 | MentalPower | Mr_Rabies2: not the same, you can't take the Blizz source and redistribute it outside of WoW |
| 18:33.28 | MentalPower | not legally anyways |
| 18:33.30 | Mr_Rabies2 | i'm saying |
| 18:33.41 | Mr_Rabies2 | as long as there's a way to keep the code working in one fashion i have no problems with it |
| 18:33.41 | Lopeppeppy | Ya know, this was a conversation I was sick of the first time I heard it. Those who enjoy Vista enjoy it. Those who feel the need to be evangelical about how great it is alienate the fence-sitters or convince them to swap. The fence-sitters wait for more drivers for peripherals to be compatible. The haters run down the fence-sitters and the evangelists and the lovers. It's like... arguing about if the sky is blue, cerulean, or periwinkle. |
| 18:33.48 | Mr_Rabies2 | there's no way to reasonably make tribes work as it did in xp |
| 18:33.48 | Beladona | its abandonware, that has been since "exposed" |
| 18:33.53 | Mr_Rabies2 | it's hacky and broken |
| 18:34.05 | kd3 | Lopeppeppy, welcome to the OS holy wars, windows version |
| 18:34.16 | cog|work | if you want to play a 10-year-old game, get a 10-year-old OS |
| 18:34.20 | cog|work | problem solved |
| 18:34.24 | Mr_Rabies2 | i'll stick with xp then |
| 18:34.29 | Mr_Rabies2 | it plays my 10 year old games |
| 18:34.30 | Beladona | I think the argument here is that there shouldn't be an argument |
| 18:34.33 | Mr_Rabies2 | and does everything i need it to |
| 18:34.34 | Beladona | its all opinion anyway |
| 18:34.51 | Mr_Rabies2 | there's nothing in vista i care about to warrant cutting off being able to use some of my software for |
| 18:34.52 | MentalPower | Mr_Rabies2: do you blame Microsoft for "breaking" a game designed for win95 on winXP? |
| 18:34.53 | Beladona | as long as there are no open fights about it, who cares if we discuss it? |
| 18:35.12 | Mr_Rabies2 | i blame them for not getting off their asses and trying to fix it |
| 18:35.16 | Lopeppeppy | Pretty much, kd3. No one ever wins a holy war. |
| 18:35.16 | MentalPower | or for that matter do you blame Apple for breaking a game designed for OS9 when leopard came along? |
| 18:35.24 | Beladona | its almost the same argument as the age old "Linux vs MS" |
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| 18:36.06 | Mr_Rabies2 | if i'm paying (that much for it)for it there's no reason for it to have LESS functionality than its "downgrade" |
| 18:36.06 | Mr_Rabies2 | eep |
| 18:36.06 | Mr_Rabies2 | minus one "for it" |
| 18:36.06 | MentalPower | Mr_Rabies2: its the same thing, old software cannot be guaranteed to last thru OS revisions |
| 18:36.08 | cog|work | Mr_Rabies2: most of the things they broke, they broke on purpose. asking them to change it is like thinking WoW should give addons direct access to CastSpellByName so people can resume using pre-BC mods |
| 18:36.11 | Beladona | I guess I don't see where it has lost any functionality |
| 18:36.12 | MentalPower | that has always been the case |
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| 18:36.34 | zenzelezz | good god, first time I've had to /ignore a guild mate to stop myself from flaming |
| 18:36.36 | Mr_Rabies2 | Beladona, i can't use some of my software |
| 18:36.39 | Kandoko | Mr_Rabies That's the attitude that makes windows such a hodgepodge nightmare of backwards compatablility vs stability |
| 18:36.40 | Beladona | it isn't the OS that lost functionality, it is the program that has lost developers to keep up with current software |
| 18:36.40 | Mr_Rabies2 | that's lost functionality |
| 18:37.00 | Beladona | and last I checked, tribes1 works fine in vista |
| 18:37.04 | Mr_Rabies2 | beladona, either way, microsoft has active developers so there's no excuse |
| 18:37.07 | Beladona | just not Out-Of_box |
| 18:37.14 | Kandoko | peeps want everything under the sun to run since dos, but if its unstable they bitch how bad windows is vs macosx |
| 18:37.19 | cog|work | Mr_Rabies2: they don't /need/ an excuse |
| 18:37.23 | Mr_Rabies2 | yeah you have to hack it together and it becomes incredibly unstable |
| 18:37.30 | MentalPower | Mr_Rabies2: MS has devs, but does tribes1 still have active devs? |
| 18:37.35 | Mr_Rabies2 | cog|work, then they don't /need/ my money |
| 18:37.39 | cog|work | they changed the way the OS functions for far more important reasons than being able to run a 10-year-old game |
| 18:37.45 | Beladona | by your argument, the only way for a new OS to be successful is if it is backwards compatible with all software that was ever developed for it's predecessor |
| 18:37.59 | Mr_Rabies2 | MentalPower, no, the source is long lost in a warehouse in france somewhere also |
| 18:38.07 | cog|work | ZOMG! I CAN'T PLAY DOS GAMES IN XP MS IS TEH SUCK |
| 18:38.08 | MentalPower | my point exactly |
| 18:38.09 | Thunder_Child | Lopeppeppy, no killer bunnies in this crowd |
| 18:38.19 | Lopeppeppy | I *am* the killer bunny, Thunder_Child. |
| 18:38.24 | Mr_Rabies2 | Beladona, there's no reason it shouldn't be |
| 18:38.33 | Mr_Rabies2 | they're making millions and charging a ton for it |
| 18:38.34 | |Jelly| | ~hug Lopeppeppy |
| 18:38.35 | purl | ACTION hugs Lopeppeppy |
| 18:38.45 | cog|work | <Mr_Rabies2>Beladona, there's no reason it shouldn't be |
| 18:38.47 | cog|work | wrong |
| 18:38.52 | MentalPower | Mr_Rabies2: that would make the OS about 3-4times more massive than it already is |
| 18:38.54 | Beladona | there is no reason Vista should be backwards compatible |
| 18:38.58 | Thunder_Child | uhh....then you just killed yourself Lopeppeppy |
| 18:39.05 | Mr_Rabies2 | well then i won't use it until i feel it's worth it |
| 18:39.08 | Beladona | this is exactly why they continue to support the previous OS for a number of eyars |
| 18:39.10 | Mr_Rabies2 | which has been my arguement thusfar |
| 18:39.11 | MentalPower | and would decrease stability, and increase support costs for all involved |
| 18:39.20 | Beladona | people that can't get past the old features, continue to use the old OS |
| 18:39.24 | Mr_Rabies2 | there's no reason for me to use vista now |
| 18:39.29 | Beladona | until they CAN get past it |
| 18:39.31 | Mr_Rabies2 | it's slower, has more overhead, and has no features i care about |
| 18:39.39 | Beladona | or they don't, and they eventually lose support |
| 18:39.44 | Beladona | whatever works |
| 18:39.47 | cog|work | Mr_Rabies2: actually you've been making two points: 1) you have no desire or need to use vista, and 2) that MS is wrong for breaking compatibility |
| 18:39.53 | cog|work | 2 is wrong |
| 18:39.59 | Mr_Rabies2 | i'm not usually a microsoft hater at all |
| 18:40.01 | Beladona | actually my vista system at home is faster than my xp system was |
| 18:40.06 | Thunder_Child | more overhead in comparision to when the last os was released. the new OS takes advantige of new hardware |
| 18:40.17 | cog|work | Beladona: same here... especially boot time |
| 18:40.20 | Thunder_Child | just like any game |
| 18:40.23 | Mr_Rabies2 | i usually really really despise people who are all MIKKKRO$HAFT AMIRITE GUYS |
| 18:40.28 | Mr_Rabies2 | but vista is a massive disappointment |
| 18:40.29 | Mr_Rabies2 | so far |
| 18:40.34 | Mr_Rabies2 | we'll see around sp 1 time |
| 18:40.43 | mikma | Cairenn: roflcopter and lollerskaters, http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=9734.0 |
| 18:40.52 | cog|work | Mr_Rabies2: don't get your hopes up about SP1 |
| 18:40.55 | Mr_Rabies2 | Beladona, most games have a marked performance decrease in xp |
| 18:40.59 | Mr_Rabies2 | i'm not cog|work |
| 18:41.03 | Mr_Rabies2 | but it's my first re-review |
| 18:41.08 | Mr_Rabies2 | if i have to wait for the next os, so be it |
| 18:41.13 | cog|work | Most of the incompatibilities are intentional, fundamental changes |
| 18:41.15 | Mr_Rabies2 | er |
| 18:41.22 | Mr_Rabies2 | Beladona, most games have a marked performance decrease in vista compared to xp |
| 18:41.27 | Beladona | thats because you are testing it on the same system |
| 18:41.31 | kd3 | sweet, my wiimote jacket finally shipped |
| 18:41.32 | Beladona | vista has more overhead |
| 18:41.35 | Beladona | I won't deny that |
| 18:41.37 | Mr_Rabies2 | which is what i said |
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| 18:41.58 | Mr_Rabies2 | it's slower and has more overhead and provides no extra functionality i care about yet |
| 18:42.06 | Beladona | it isn't slower |
| 18:42.11 | cog|work | umm.... you expect the next OS to really be more backwards-compatible with decades-old software? |
| 18:42.13 | Beladona | it just has a higher base requirement |
| 18:42.26 | Beladona | its slower on your CURRENT system |
| 18:42.29 | Beladona | but not all systems |
| 18:42.30 | Mr_Rabies2 | cog|work, i expect it to retain its backwards compatibility, yes |
| 18:42.35 | Mr_Rabies2 | it's slower than xp on the best system |
| 18:42.39 | Mr_Rabies2 | available |
| 18:42.42 | Beladona | wrong |
| 18:42.42 | Mr_Rabies2 | it's got more overhead |
| 18:42.55 | cog|work | Mr_Rabies2: get an easier-to-tab-complete name plx |
| 18:43.05 | Mr_Rabies2 | you can use Mr_Rabies |
| 18:43.08 | Mr_Rabies2 | that pings me too |
| 18:43.27 | Mr_Rabies2 | anything with rabies in it, really |
| 18:43.45 | Beladona | my current system at home is faster than an equally configured xp system. Granted part of that is because I would have to run 64bit windows xp, which is slower than vista x64 anyway. |
| 18:43.46 | cog|work | Mr_Rabies2: you said "if i have to wait for the next os, so be it" as if you were expecting Windows 7 to work with Tribes |
| 18:43.51 | Mr_Rabies2 | beladona, the only difference is people making ramdrives and storing the os on it and whatnot |
| 18:43.53 | Mr_Rabies2 | no cog |
| 18:44.02 | Beladona | but if I run x86 windows xp, I lose memory usage |
| 18:44.03 | Thunder_Child | more overhead than xp yes, but you have to look at the relitive hardware that is currently out atm |
| 18:44.05 | Mr_Rabies2 | i'm expecting added functionality to be worth losing tribes |
| 18:44.07 | Beladona | which would still be slower |
| 18:44.14 | Mr_Rabies2 | Thunder_Child, that's not a valid arguement |
| 18:44.17 | Beladona | regardless, in both cases, vista ends up being faster |
| 18:44.18 | Thunder_Child | yes it is |
| 18:44.21 | Thunder_Child | same thing for games |
| 18:44.26 | kd3 | http://spyglass-server.com/pub/wiimote-jacket.jpg |
| 18:44.44 | Mr_Rabies2 | most people i know that have played crysis run it in xp |
| 18:44.45 | Beladona | oh and I don't use a "ramdrive" |
| 18:44.47 | Mr_Rabies2 | same with most other games |
| 18:46.03 | Beladona | its splitterific today |
| 18:46.03 | Mr_Rabies2 | because they're a noticable performance decrease when running in vista versus xp |
| 18:46.03 | Beladona | 0.o |
| 18:46.03 | Mr_Rabies2 | even on the newest games |
| 18:46.03 | Thunder_Child | be that as it may i am saying that vista is built with the newist hardware in mind, like any game |
| 18:46.03 | Beladona | I still think that the majority of that is due to the hardware being used |
| 18:46.03 | Beladona | besides |
| 18:46.03 | Mr_Rabies2 | even on topend stuff |
| 18:46.15 | Mr_Rabies2 | i've talked to people with amazing machines |
| 18:46.16 | Beladona | running Crysis on xp versus Vista is hardly an exact comparison |
| 18:46.17 | Beladona | you are comparing DX9 to DX10 |
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| 18:46.34 | Beladona | which means the games would be different anyway |
| 18:46.34 | Mr_Rabies2 | they still run crysis in xp or dx9 mode |
| 18:46.58 | cog|work | why shouldn't a new OS take advantage of increased CPU power? I'm sure in 10 years you'll be making the same comparison between vista and its successor |
| 18:46.58 | Thunder_Child | ya, helgate dx10, i have 2 options for my shaders, extreme and ultra high... |
| 18:46.58 | Thunder_Child | only in dx9 can you go lower |
| 18:46.58 | Mr_Rabies2 | because xp can take advantage of it just as well |
| 18:47.01 | Mr_Rabies2 | and with less overhead, even better |
| 18:47.24 | cog|work | and actually, most of the overhead is caused by desktop composition |
| 18:47.27 | Beladona | so what you are saying is, XP is faster and better on a game that uses less graphics overhead to begin with when run on XP |
| 18:47.40 | cog|work | disable that and you get MAYBE a 5-10% FPS decrease |
| 18:47.40 | Beladona | I can agree with that |
| 18:48.05 | kd3 | http://spyglass-server.com/pub/wiimote-jacket-back.jpg |
| 18:48.07 | MentalPower | unless you either have a medium-grade system or you're running several resource intensive apps at the same time, vista will be faster |
| 18:48.08 | kd3 | this is pretty nice |
| 18:48.11 | Mr_Rabies2 | i'm saying that every game i've looked up runs better in xp with heavy benchmarking |
| 18:48.17 | kd3 | much better grip with the new condom for the wiimote |
| 18:48.29 | Mr_Rabies2 | the only difference is if you go above XP's RAM cap |
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| 18:48.49 | Mr_Rabies2 | speaking of condoms for the wiimote |
| 18:48.52 | Beladona | guess I don't see the need |
| 18:48.59 | Thunder_Child | kd3, unless it's flavored or otherwise edible, it's all the same |
| 18:49.18 | Beladona | I mean, 115 fps in WoW on my Vista x64 rig means I could care less if XP might give me 5-10 more frames |
| 18:49.31 | Mr_Rabies2 | i saw a picture of a woman enjoying her wii in a unique example of emergent gameplay floating around the internet |
| 18:49.53 | Mr_Rabies2 | Beladona, i'm talking 30 vs 75 fps and whatnot |
| 18:50.04 | Thunder_Child | i cant remeber, do wiimotes have "rumble" in them? |
| 18:50.07 | Mr_Rabies2 | yes |
| 18:50.08 | Mr_Rabies2 | and a speaker |
| 18:50.12 | Beladona | 30 vs 75? |
| 18:50.29 | Beladona | anyone getting 30fps in Vista is using a shity system to begin with |
| 18:50.41 | MentalPower | or using VSync |
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| 18:50.47 | Beladona | that too |
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| 18:51.16 | Beladona | how much is a wiimote by itself? |
| 18:51.20 | Mr_Rabies2 | Beladona, or playing crysis |
| 18:51.25 | Beladona | I want one just to use for wow |
| 18:51.28 | Mr_Rabies2 | sure you do |
| 18:51.32 | Mr_Rabies2 | <_< |
| 18:51.34 | Mr_Rabies2 | >_> |
| 18:51.45 | Mr_Rabies2 | i dunno i think they're like 20 or 30 |
| 18:51.52 | Beladona | hmm |
| 18:52.06 | Thunder_Child | Beladona, no you dont...though it works well with the ir port on laptops |
| 18:52.33 | kd3 | bluetooth too if you've got a bluetooth device in your computer |
| 18:52.33 | Mr_Rabies2 | oy |
| 18:52.33 | Mr_Rabies2 | 40 |
| 18:52.36 | Beladona | I only want it for fishing |
| 18:52.37 | Mr_Rabies2 | plus a nunchuck |
| 18:52.40 | Mr_Rabies2 | which is 20 |
| 18:52.41 | Mr_Rabies2 | ugh |
| 18:52.47 | Beladona | not worth 40 bucks |
| 18:53.05 | Mr_Rabies2 | nah |
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| 18:53.29 | Mr_Rabies2 | not for how limited it is outside of use on the wii itself |
| 18:53.42 | Mr_Rabies2 | the 360 controller, on the other hand, is amazing for pc gaming |
| 18:54.00 | Mr_Rabies2 | i'd imagine the ps3's would be too but i haven't used it |
| 18:54.18 | Mr_Rabies2 | on a pc, that is |
| 18:54.18 | Mr_Rabies2 | dunno how the drivers, etc work |
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| 18:55.00 | Beladona | it doesn't have motion sensing though |
| 18:55.03 | Beladona | which negates the need |
| 18:55.03 | Mr_Rabies2 | yeah |
| 18:55.03 | Mr_Rabies2 | but the motion sensing is anything but reliable or accurate |
| 18:55.03 | Beladona | I should see if I cna hack my iphone to use as a fishing controller |
| 18:55.27 | Beladona | 0.o |
| 18:55.28 | Thunder_Child | does it have an acceleromiter? |
| 18:55.28 | Beladona | yup |
| 18:55.28 | Thunder_Child | i didnt think so |
| 18:55.39 | Thunder_Child | o |
| 18:55.39 | Mr_Rabies2 | yeah :P |
| 18:55.39 | Mr_Rabies2 | rofl |
| 18:55.40 | Mr_Rabies2 | it's just not very accurate |
| 18:55.45 | kd3 | it's got one for the vertical<->horizontal mode flip |
| 18:55.46 | Beladona | thats how they detect vertical vs horizontal |
| 18:55.46 | MentalPower | yeah it does, thats what it uses to rotate the image |
| 18:56.05 | Mr_Rabies2 | oh on the iphone |
| 18:56.06 | kd3 | winnar |
| 18:56.13 | Mr_Rabies2 | i thought you meant for the wiimote |
| 18:56.19 | Beladona | there is an app somewhere that shows debug data from the accelerometer |
| 18:56.33 | Mr_Rabies2 | it's got a pretty cheap accelerometer and stuff so it's not very accurate |
| 18:56.38 | Mr_Rabies2 | but i guess they gotta keep costs down |
| 19:00.29 | Mr_Rabies2 | ugh |
| 19:00.34 | Mr_Rabies2 | i wish i was better at mirc scripting |
| 19:00.45 | Mr_Rabies2 | there's no good netsplit detection scripts |
| 19:00.54 | Mr_Rabies2 | the one i got uses alternating caps for its announcements |
| 19:01.11 | Mr_Rabies2 | like NeTsPliT dEtEcTeD! |
| 19:01.19 | Mr_Rabies2 | i mean honestly |
| 19:01.23 | Mr_Rabies2 | what is this, 1995 |
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| 19:11.49 | |Jelly| | plenty of time |
| 19:12.20 | Kelfarr | yeha |
| 19:12.22 | Kelfarr | yeah* |
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| 19:14.37 | art3mis | yay free midtown office ;) |
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| 19:36.19 | Lunessa | http://xkcd.com/339/ |
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| 19:42.37 | kd3 | damn it, me too |
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| 19:46.23 | Lunessa | is freenode just wonky today? |
| 19:47.09 | mikma | nosy network |
| 19:47.27 | zenzelezz | freenode always had an on-connect CTCP, didn't they? |
| 19:47.47 | cladhaire | they're being DDOS'd. |
| 19:47.48 | cladhaire | so :P |
| 19:47.53 | cog|work | Lunessa: there was a notice earlier |
| 19:48.00 | Maldivia | zenzelezz: don't know about always, but for a long time |
| 19:48.03 | Lunessa | Ah, missed it. |
| 19:48.22 | zenzelezz | Maldivia: yeah, I used the word a bit carelessly; but you took my meaning |
| 19:48.24 | mikma | ~<2040> -LoRez- [Global Notice] I apologize for the trip through splitsville the past couple of days. Apparently we've annoyed a kiddie and he doesn't have anything better to do than packet a few of our servers. We're working with our sponsors to block the traffic. |
| 19:49.47 | cncfanatics | at least DDOS microsoft then ? |
| 19:49.52 | cncfanatics | but why would u DDOS freenode ? |
| 19:50.03 | kd3 | because script kiddies are idiots |
| 19:50.07 | Industrial | angry kids |
| 19:50.09 | Industrial | yeh |
| 19:50.15 | Mr_Rabies2 | zomg i got glined |
| 19:50.19 | Lunessa | Because you're a tard with too much sugar and anger, and not enough sense? |
| 19:50.24 | Mr_Rabies2 | time to fire up ddos.exe lols |
| 19:50.46 | mikma | Lunessa: "too much sugar and anger" .. that's brilliant! |
| 19:50.51 | cncfanatics | meh |
| 19:51.03 | cncfanatics | I'm an idiot that found on the inet a step by step instruction on how to DDOS |
| 19:51.06 | cncfanatics | yeeeeeey I got bandwith |
| 19:51.08 | Lunessa | I r teh wikked sick funneh |
| 19:52.04 | Lunessa | So I dusted off my druid yesterday and tanked an instance. Suddenly I'm a lot more sympathetic to druids desire for better macro support of shapeshifting. |
| 19:52.42 | foxlit | Wonder what my client does to global notices |
| 19:52.42 | Mr_Rabies2 | 2.3 is vastly improving all of that |
| 19:52.47 | Mr_Rabies2 | lunessa |
| 19:52.59 | Mr_Rabies2 | you can click cat form from bear and visually you go straight from one to the other more or less |
| 19:53.01 | cncfanatics | Lunessa, what shapeshifting support are u lacking thats not in 2.3 ? |
| 19:53.12 | Lunessa | I know. I'm looking forward to it. |
| 19:53.41 | Lunessa | Nothing. I'm just no longer blase about there already being enought support in 2.2 |
| 19:53.56 | art3mis | luny missed the ability to transform into a car |
| 19:54.30 | cncfanatics | tbh |
| 19:54.40 | cncfanatics | if I could choose between a bird or a car, I'd pick the bird |
| 19:55.42 | Mr_Rabies2 | what if the car was a delorean |
| 19:55.42 | art3mis | assuming that density changes as well i suppose |
| 19:56.06 | Mr_Rabies2 | that could travel time |
| 19:56.19 | art3mis | only if it could go 80mph |
| 19:56.39 | art3mis | which iof course according to the movies was far to difficult for the delorean |
| 19:57.10 | art3mis | spare gasoline!??! what is this madness! |
| 19:57.27 | Mr_Rabies2 | EIGHTY EIGHT MILES PER HOUR |
| 19:57.45 | art3mis | 88 == hh, the professor was a nazi ;) |
| 19:58.06 | Industrial | .. |
| 19:58.32 | Mr_Rabies2 | if he was a nazi wouldnt he like |
| 19:58.35 | art3mis | you have to stop your great grand daughter! she's going to get married to a blackman! |
| 19:58.41 | Industrial | rofl |
| 19:58.46 | Mr_Rabies2 | go back to 1945 and bring hitler back |
| 19:59.01 | Mr_Rabies2 | or something |
| 19:59.04 | Industrial | he'd go to 1940 and give him the atomic bomb |
| 19:59.21 | Industrial | clearly |
| 19:59.26 | art3mis | but it wouldnt have the right amount of energy so they'd have to wait for a lightning storm over england |
| 19:59.28 | Mr_Rabies2 | like that guy in justice league unlimited |
| 19:59.28 | Kelfarr | ok done the action bar part |
| 19:59.38 | Mr_Rabies2 | who made big mechs and stuff |
| 19:59.45 | Mr_Rabies2 | and gave them to the nazis |
| 20:00.04 | Industrial | justice league unlimited? |
| 20:00.08 | Industrial | smells american. |
| 20:00.36 | Mr_Rabies2 | it's an awesome dc comic show |
| 20:00.55 | Mr_Rabies2 | its incredibly complex and violent for a kid's show |
| 20:02.23 | Esamynn | *SUCK* !!! |
| 20:02.23 | Beladona | amazing |
| 20:02.23 | art3mis | netsplits rule! |
| 20:02.24 | Esamynn | ~gag art3mis |
| 20:02.25 | purl | ACTION takes away the voice of art3mis and, as an additional precaution, sews art3mis's mouth shut permanently... |
| 20:02.26 | Beladona | I am voerdue for one |
| 20:02.32 | art3mis | its a way of showing that freenodes autoimmune has been compromised |
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| 20:02.56 | art3mis | whats really bad is single server splits where there are no other nodes ;P |
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| 20:04.25 | Thunder_Child | what i want to know is why does rclicking on an icon in the start bar take forever to load the menu |
| 20:05.10 | Mr_Rabies2 | too many shell scripts |
| 20:05.19 | Mr_Rabies2 | or one badly coded one |
| 20:07.16 | zenzelezz | usually only happens to me if the target file is no longer present or has been moevd |
| 20:07.19 | zenzelezz | *moved |
| 20:08.01 | MentalPower | that happens to me when I'm on a box running Novell NetWare |
| 20:08.37 | Mr_Rabies2 | your mom's a box running novell netware |
| 20:09.04 | MentalPower | ~lart Mr_Rabies2 |
| 20:09.04 | purl | strangles Mr_Rabies2 with a 9-pole serial cable |
| 20:09.19 | MentalPower | ~botsnack |
| 20:09.19 | purl | thanks, MentalPower |
| 20:09.19 | art3mis | she loves the bnc hard connects |
| 20:09.34 | MentalPower | ~lart art3mis |
| 20:09.34 | purl | nabs the moon and broadsides art3mis with the sea of tranquility |
| 20:09.40 | art3mis | ~dodge |
| 20:09.41 | purl | ACTION dodges! |
| 20:09.50 | MentalPower | ~fail art3mis |
| 20:09.50 | purl | art3mis: Fail. |
| 20:09.55 | art3mis | ~win art3mis |
| 20:09.56 | purl | Congratulations, art3mis! You have won a one way ticket to baghdad! |
| 20:10.01 | MentalPower | lol! |
| 20:10.03 | Thunder_Child | zenzelezz, nope wrong |
| 20:10.04 | art3mis | im not sure thats a win |
| 20:11.08 | zenzelezz | Thunder_Child: no, I'm correct, because I am only talking about my experience |
| 20:11.38 | Thunder_Child | nope, you fial |
| 20:11.38 | Thunder_Child | fail...damn |
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| 20:23.24 | Rayne | hiya :P |
| 20:23.29 | Cairenn | hi |
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| 20:24.08 | kd3 | ick |
| 20:24.08 | kd3 | we got down to -2c this morning |
| 20:24.08 | kd3 | guess that means the growing season's come to an end |
| 20:25.07 | art3mis | i wonder if my switch at the office has the ability to monitor BW consuption per ip assignment |
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| 20:25.19 | Cairenn | naw, it just moves into closets in university dorm rooms the world over |
| 20:25.34 | Thunder_Child | lol Cairenn |
| 20:27.20 | cncfanatics | Hijo de la luna, why do I like that song go damn much ? |
| 20:28.52 | Kelfarr | No gym for home, work out floor with 30, but is it for 20 like 30 lb when you no lift it to be for men, for 30 lbs instead? or half is 10 for 20 pounds? |
| 20:30.42 | Rayne | sigh |
| 20:30.53 | Rayne | Kel, come break my hands so I can stop screwing with my UI |
| 20:31.20 | Kelfarr | haha |
| 20:31.24 | cncfanatics | Rayne, what addons u messing with ? |
| 20:31.26 | Kelfarr | i am screwing with mine |
| 20:31.28 | Kelfarr | almost done! |
| 20:32.27 | Rayne | did you see my updated one? |
| 20:32.30 | Rayne | Kel? |
| 20:33.14 | Rayne | Probably not I just posted it like at 3am my time last night :| |
| 20:33.34 | Kelfarr | Yes I saw |
| 20:33.44 | Kelfarr | looks great |
| 20:35.23 | Rayne | im debating if I want to get rid of CML |
| 20:35.35 | Kelfarr | I was just debating getting it and decided no |
| 20:36.21 | Rayne | well, its kinda outta place, I cant think of anywhere to put it |
| 20:36.26 | Kelfarr | I was also debating changing the color of all the text on my chat to one color |
| 20:36.34 | Kelfarr | do you think I should to help it flow or not |
| 20:36.46 | Rayne | and I wish it had a fadeout option and visable on hover but it doesnt... |
| 20:36.51 | Rayne | um, get me a new SS let me see |
| 20:37.00 | Rayne | im eating my "breakfast" |
| 20:37.05 | Rayne | 3:30 in the afternoon :| |
| 20:38.30 | Kelfarr | hehe |
| 20:38.39 | Kelfarr | i am home from school until 2:00pm its 12:38 now |
| 20:38.47 | Kelfarr | just gotta finish the map then I will send you one |
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| 20:39.52 | Rayne | is IRC broken or something? |
| 20:39.52 | |Jelly| | script kiddie |
| 20:40.15 | dolby-wowi | [Global Notice] I apologize for the trip through splitsville the past couple of days. Apparently we've annoyed a kiddie and he doesn't have anything better to do than packet a few of our servers. We're working with our sponsors to block the traffic. |
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| 20:40.28 | dashkal | Is there a wikipage/guide/forum thread/whatever that describes how taint works? |
| 20:40.50 | Kelfarr | just search it on google :P |
| 20:40.52 | Kelfarr | actually don't |
| 20:41.06 | Rayne | but yeah Kel just gimme a link lemme see what youre up to :P |
| 20:41.10 | Esamynn | I believe Iriel did a write up once upon a time |
| 20:41.52 | Kelfarr | one sec I gotta finish adding the border to the minimap |
| 20:42.42 | Rayne | take your time, im questing on my hunter |
| 20:43.17 | Kelfarr | ok |
| 20:43.23 | Kelfarr | only be about 20 minutes |
| 20:43.44 | dashkal | Esamynn: Thank you. Googling for Iriel Taint worked |
| 20:44.15 | Cairenn | that just sounded wrong, dashkal :p |
| 20:44.44 | Thunder_Child | dirty minded person |
| 20:45.04 | Cairenn | and you're one to talk? |
| 20:45.14 | Thunder_Child | the lack of wholesome family values in this channel is sadening |
| 20:45.28 | Thunder_Child | no, but i will anyways |
| 20:45.31 | Cairenn | heh |
| 20:47.19 | Kelfarr | this girl don't ask much does she http://boise.craigslist.org/cas/468965882.html |
| 20:47.25 | Kelfarr | someone posted this on a forum i go on |
| 20:49.06 | zenzelezz | "which means you will spend more than just 10 minutes doing it...." |
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| 20:51.10 | foxlit | http://games.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=07/11/08/1933240 for all you rejoiners |
| 20:51.14 | Thunder_Child | the list is nice....but i dont think i would like that person |
| 20:51.23 | Kelfarr | well no wonder she is single |
| 20:51.24 | Kelfarr | and 38 |
| 20:51.38 | Thunder_Child | i think that is by choice |
| 20:51.58 | Kelfarr | probably |
| 20:52.13 | Esamynn | foxlit: bah, that news is a day old :P |
| 20:52.28 | foxlit | That's not really the purpose for linking it |
| 20:52.40 | foxlit | Just find it strange that a wow patch announcement makes it to slashdot |
| 20:53.11 | Thunder_Child | it is a large one....it's what..the 3rd or 4th major patch in wow history i think |
| 20:53.33 | Thunder_Child | there was the one with nax |
| 20:53.51 | Thunder_Child | the series with all of the talent changes |
| 20:54.33 | Kelfarr | 1.12 |
| 20:54.41 | Kelfarr | changed the honor system |
| 20:55.12 | Esamynn | ahh |
| 20:55.33 | Rayne | i hate questing alone |
| 20:55.57 | zenzelezz | hm, was MH + BT same patch or different ones? I can't recall |
| 20:56.06 | Esamynn | I note there is an added "comment" |
| 20:56.06 | Esamynn | below the news paragraph |
| 20:56.23 | kd3 | mh/bt were both 2.1.0 |
| 20:56.53 | Thunder_Child | hmm..someone should make a fancy timeline of wow patches |
| 20:57.20 | nevcairiel | mh was always in |
| 20:57.21 | nevcairiel | iirc |
| 20:57.22 | foxlit | Tags are nice |
| 20:57.22 | foxlit | "!news, wedontcare" |
| 20:57.23 | Esamynn | lol |
| 20:57.23 | foxlit | Hrm, so far I've soloed every 60 5-man except DM |
| 20:58.12 | Rayne | DM West is easy up until the end |
| 20:58.14 | foxlit | For level-appropriate groups, those instances are probably a bit too difficult, considering the 60 raiding difficulty curve is non-existant |
| 21:00.16 | foxlit | Well |
| 21:00.28 | foxlit | Hyjal was in 2.0 proper, BT was introduced in 2.1 |
| 21:00.39 | zenzelezz | hm, I thought they unlocked MH in some patch |
| 21:00.45 | kd3 | but no one got in to hyjal until 2.1 with the kael nerfs |
| 21:00.46 | foxlit | No |
| 21:00.56 | foxlit | It wasn't even the kael nerfs :) |
| 21:00.59 | zenzelezz | oh, so it was just Kael being an ass that stopped people? |
| 21:01.09 | foxlit | Vials weren't multi-drop pre 2.1 |
| 21:01.16 | zenzelezz | hm, true |
| 21:01.32 | foxlit | So to get a raid attuned, you'd have to spend more time than 2.0 was out on it |
| 21:02.16 | foxlit | So while 2.1 didn't introduce Hyjal, it might be considered to have opened it anyway |
| 21:03.12 | nevcairiel | that was their blocker |
| 21:03.15 | nevcairiel | because it wasnt done :) |
| 21:04.27 | foxlit | Find that hard to determine |
| 21:05.38 | foxlit | But it's logical :) |
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| 21:06.27 | zenzelezz | 2.1.0 patch notes: "The number of preliminary waves before each boss in the Caverns of Time: Battle for Mount Hyjal event has been reduced from 12 to 8 [...]", so yeah, it was most likely open |
| 21:06.51 | zenzelezz | sorry, 2.1.2 |
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| 21:06.54 | zenzelezz | but still :-) |
| 21:07.28 | kadrahil | anyone use the OSX wow client? |
| 21:07.35 | foxlit | sometimes |
| 21:07.37 | Copilot | so my internet turns off for 5 minutes i restart my computer and all my firefox bookmarks are gone... |
| 21:07.42 | kadrahil | is there a way to set the OSX menu bar to not pop down when you move the mouse to the top of the screen when wow is in full screen windowed mode? |
| 21:07.47 | *** part/#wowi-lounge Copilot (n=copilot_@d66-183-169-253.bchsia.telus.net) |
| 21:07.49 | zenzelezz | no mention in any of the patch notes about it being opened... so I was indeed mistaken about it ever being locked |
| 21:08.06 | kd3 | it was never locked, just impossible to get enough people in to |
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| 21:08.16 | Copilot | this is kelfarr bt |
| 21:08.18 | Copilot | btw |
| 21:08.29 | zenzelezz | kd3: that still means I was wrong =) |
| 21:10.58 | Megatf | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:11.07 | Megatf | here's a link to my thread |
| 21:11.10 | Megatf | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=2766077170&sid=1 |
| 21:11.18 | Megatf | If anyone has a spare EU wow account that they wouldn't mind letting me use for posting in the hunter forums, that'd be amazing! |
| 21:14.39 | MentalPower | Copilot: next time you can use "/msg nickserv ghost Kelfarr <yourPassWordGoesHere>" |
| 21:16.21 | Rayne | damn I kinda wanna go back to sleep |
| 21:20.53 | |Jelly| | So go back to sleep. |
| 21:21.13 | Lunessa | ... "please give me your account info so I can shard your epics and troll your realmz!" |
| 21:22.01 | Copilot | ok |
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| 21:23.37 | Thunder_Child | omg...vistas driver recovery thing worked for me for the first time ever |
| 21:23.42 | Thunder_Child | video driver* |
| 21:24.02 | Thunder_Child | *sniff* *tear* |
| 21:24.15 | Cide- | has worked for me every single time |
| 21:24.38 | Thunder_Child | has always BSoD'd after trying for ~1 min |
| 21:27.09 | Rayne | hi Jelly :P |
| 21:27.14 | |Jelly| | Hi |
| 21:29.31 | Thunder_Child | is there a handy site for textures for wow? |
| 21:29.50 | cog|work | Thunder_Child: you can extract all of them with the addon kit |
| 21:29.54 | Rayne | am I the only person that thinks Anderson Cooper is a crappy reporter? |
| 21:30.02 | Thunder_Child | custom textures cog|work |
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| 21:32.02 | Fisker- | anyone here got any leotheras experience? |
| 21:32.05 | Lunessa | http://www.wowtextures.com/ - not updated often |
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| 21:33.13 | Thunder_Child | ya, tried that Lunessa |
| 21:33.16 | Thunder_Child | thanks though |
| 21:34.02 | Lunessa | You know, you could just browse various compilations and hork any textures you like for your own use... |
| 21:36.08 | kd3 | lol |
| 21:36.18 | kd3 | the BGD's saying no data is available for 2.3 |
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| 21:47.08 | foxlit | Guard fengus: "You da man now, dog!" |
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| 21:49.31 | foxlit | Leotheras = <3 |
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| 21:53.43 | |Jelly| | I think you should be able to like shock chat tech support people when they're stupid. |
| 21:54.17 | |Jelly| | Imelda Johnson: Thank you for waiting, based on the result of the line test you are 100% connected to the server. |
| 21:54.48 | |Jelly| | No shit? Wow...that's amazing... |
| 21:55.47 | |Jelly| | Imelda Johnson: But for now , you are connected right? |
| 21:55.48 | |Jelly| | ~facepalm |
| 21:55.49 | purl | ACTION facepalms at the situation |
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| 22:00.41 | Lunessa | Every time someone says "wut" I want to yell, "English Motherfucker! Do you speak it?" |
| 22:00.54 | |Jelly| | To which they'd respond "wut" ? |
| 22:01.49 | Lunessa | To which I should be free to respond with *hail of gunfire* |
| 22:01.56 | |Jelly| | hehe |
| 22:02.39 | TC-Holding | is there a way to get rid of the borders around the chat boxes? |
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| 22:04.13 | MentalPower | Thunder_Child: you can hide those components |
| 22:05.34 | Thunder_Child | how? |
| 22:10.08 | foxlit | They're probably defiend as the frame's backdrop |
| 22:10.12 | MentalPower | you need to hide the ChatFrameXResize* frames |
| 22:10.30 | Thunder_Child | so..dart or similar? |
| 22:11.42 | MentalPower | run this macro: "/run for k,v in pairs(_G) do if k:match("ChatFrame%dResize") then v:Hide() end end" |
| 22:12.18 | Thunder_Child | didnt do anything |
| 22:12.20 | MentalPower | you will be unable to resize the chatframes after that tho |
| 22:12.34 | MentalPower | they're gone in mine |
| 22:12.53 | Thunder_Child | well i cant move them..but the borders arent gone |
| 22:13.13 | Thunder_Child | s/move/resize/ |
| 22:14.16 | MentalPower | the borders that you want to kill are the ones that are slightly darker color than the rest of the chatframes |
| 22:14.23 | MentalPower | or is it some other border |
| 22:14.29 | Thunder_Child | silver border |
| 22:14.35 | Thunder_Child | not default? |
| 22:14.43 | MentalPower | nop |
| 22:14.52 | Thunder_Child | damn...addon hunting time |
| 22:14.55 | Thunder_Child | thanks anyway |
| 22:14.58 | MentalPower | lol, sorry |
| 22:18.02 | foxlit | Leopard's "inactive" chrome loks odd |
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| 22:18.27 | Thunder_Child | i love how i can completely miss an addon called "ChatFrameBorders" |
| 22:18.45 | MentalPower | nice |
| 22:24.56 | Thunder_Child | ya, i can be retarded with the best of them |
| 22:26.44 | MentalPower | we all can |
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| 22:35.46 | Rayne | still debating if I wanna get rid of CML... |
| 22:36.02 | |Jelly| | I use Timex |
| 22:37.05 | Rayne | http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v442/SinOfDreams/WoWScrnShot_110807_075726.jpg just looks so outta place to me :/ |
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| 22:37.23 | Rayne | And I just died doing the darkmoon faire cannon |
| 22:37.30 | Rayne | i win so hard |
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| 22:42.20 | Mr_Rabies2 | brownbrownbrownbrownbrownPURPLEbrownbrownbrown |
| 22:42.27 | Mr_Rabies2 | or blue |
| 22:42.28 | foxlit | There. |
| 22:42.33 | foxlit | Soloed all 60 5-man content. |
| 22:42.52 | Mr_Rabies2 | shattrath is like a doom 2 map |
| 22:42.57 | Mr_Rabies2 | it's all brown and grey and boring |
| 22:43.00 | Mr_Rabies2 | hate it :[ |
| 22:43.02 | Cidan | I agree |
| 22:43.03 | Cidan | Fully |
| 22:43.11 | Cidan | That's when I lost interest in the game actually |
| 22:43.15 | Cidan | Shattrath is depressing |
| 22:43.16 | Mr_Rabies2 | i hope dalaran is a complete foil to it |
| 22:43.16 | Rayne | I hope they at least make Dalaran look gorgeous |
| 22:43.19 | Mr_Rabies2 | like |
| 22:43.28 | Cidan | Is Dalaran coming? |
| 22:43.28 | Mr_Rabies2 | massive floating stuff everywhere |
| 22:43.33 | Cidan | Did I miss a news post or something? |
| 22:43.35 | Mr_Rabies2 | in wotlk |
| 22:43.43 | Mr_Rabies2 | it's the central hub for northrend |
| 22:44.02 | Cidan | ...Dalaran is? |
| 22:44.10 | Cidan | I take it that's how you get there, then? |
| 22:44.58 | Rayne | http://www.wowwiki.com/Dalaran |
| 22:45.11 | buu | Um. |
| 22:45.25 | buu | If you think shatratth is gray and boring, you might want to get your monitor looked at.. |
| 22:45.26 | Mr_Rabies2 | they's makin it float |
| 22:45.34 | Mr_Rabies2 | shattrath IS grey and brown and boring |
| 22:45.41 | foxlit | Northrend... on frikken propellers! |
| 22:45.47 | buu | There's like, zero gray, anywhere. |
| 22:45.53 | Mr_Rabies2 | http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v442/SinOfDreams/WoWScrnShot_110807_075726.jpg |
| 22:45.55 | buu | sort of a tan'ish brown maybe. |
| 22:45.55 | Mr_Rabies2 | skybox |
| 22:45.56 | Mr_Rabies2 | and like |
| 22:46.05 | Mr_Rabies2 | highlights on the structures |
| 22:46.09 | Mr_Rabies2 | it's far too muted and gloomy |
| 22:46.13 | Mr_Rabies2 | it looks like a doom 2 map |
| 22:46.51 | buu | I've never really thought of it that way. |
| 22:47.00 | Rayne | thanks for using my SS as your example |
| 22:47.00 | buu | It seems more sunny normally. |
| 22:47.02 | Rayne | :P |
| 22:47.08 | buu | Your SS is fairly muted example. |
| 22:47.18 | Mr_Rabies2 | what all of shatt looks like |
| 22:47.25 | Mr_Rabies2 | the mostcolorful thing in shatt is the npc names |
| 22:47.41 | buu | It so isn't. |
| 22:47.44 | buu | When it's sunny! |
| 22:48.42 | Mr_Rabies2 | i don't think shattrath has differing day/night cycles |
| 22:48.45 | Mr_Rabies2 | i think it's the same all the time |
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| 22:49.18 | Rayne | http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=8b7pg90&s=1 wtb screenspace. |
| 22:49.25 | Mr_Rabies2 | they kinda failed at their concept art for terokkar |
| 22:49.26 | Mr_Rabies2 | http://www.wowwiki.com/images/5/5c/ShattrathConcept.jpg |
| 22:50.06 | Mr_Rabies2 | do you(or they) play at 1024x768 or is that scaled |
| 22:50.10 | mikma | http://www.kuvaton.com/kuvei/emos.jpg |
| 22:51.08 | Rayne | even with that rez, you can do alot better :/ |
| 22:51.37 | Mr_Rabies2 | i've gotta get a haircut |
| 22:51.38 | Mr_Rabies2 | ugh |
| 22:51.53 | Mr_Rabies2 | i've got a mountainman + murderface from metalocalypse + einstein going on |
| 22:52.11 | foxlit | It's easy to compress that, tbh |
| 22:52.15 | Mr_Rabies2 | my hair absolutely will not stay combed, and i have a full beard, so i look like a homeless guy |
| 22:52.28 | foxlit | You do not need the clock/ui ram/latency gouges |
| 22:52.32 | Mr_Rabies2 | i've gotta cut it so i can control that crap |
| 22:52.47 | foxlit | You do not need a combat log |
| 22:52.53 | foxlit | Or, rather, a distinct combat log |
| 22:53.21 | foxlit | The whole portal/teleport bar can go as well; rare enough to use the spellbook |
| 22:53.36 | Rayne | http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1232/1230934791_04b641c81d_o.png |
| 22:53.39 | buu | Portals should go on geist imo. |
| 22:55.54 | Rayne | boooorrreeed |
| 22:57.09 | Rayne | O_o |
| 22:57.16 | Esamynn | you said youwere bored :P |
| 22:57.30 | Rayne | my face ;_; |
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| 23:11.41 | JoshBorke | hi |
| 23:12.04 | Wobwor1 | what's with all the mad netsplits recently? |
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| 23:12.25 | Thunder_Child | someone is not happy with freenode |
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| 23:15.41 | AnduinLothar | anyone here use recount? |
| 23:16.29 | Mr_Rabies2 | your mother |
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| 23:17.38 | Wobwor1 | I do |
| 23:18.04 | AnduinLothar | what do you like about it over other meters? |
| 23:18.21 | cladhaire | zomgace imo |
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| 23:18.27 | Mr_Rabies2 | i use violation, if recount is a damagemeter |
| 23:18.32 | Wobwor1 | thanks clad =P |
| 23:18.39 | Wobwor1 | For that unbiased opinion =P |
| 23:18.47 | Mr_Rabies2 | just because it's everything i loved about damagemeters but prettier :P |
| 23:18.48 | cladhaire | lol |
| 23:18.51 | cladhaire | just throwing it out there |
| 23:18.57 | Wobwor1 | It's -always- out there |
| 23:19.01 | Wobwor1 | you don't need to reiterate |
| 23:19.24 | Wobwor1 | I like recount cause of the breakdown of skills used |
| 23:19.27 | Wobwor1 | and the death report |
| 23:19.33 | Wobwor1 | and the cc breaks |
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| 23:19.47 | Wobwor1 | it's useful for analysing how certain people play |
| 23:19.49 | AnduinLothar | cc breaks? |
| 23:19.54 | Wobwor1 | it shows who breaks cc |
| 23:19.59 | Mr_Rabies2 | oh man |
| 23:20.02 | Mr_Rabies2 | i'm getting tha |
| 23:20.02 | Mr_Rabies2 | t |
| 23:20.07 | Mr_Rabies2 | i will hound the hell out of people |
| 23:20.15 | AnduinLothar | if that's all you want there's a mod that reports it to chat |
| 23:20.37 | AnduinLothar | Tattle i think |
| 23:20.40 | JoshBorke | i use it for deathcount |
| 23:20.43 | Mr_Rabies2 | Noobalas just broke Sheep, don't blame me for your quick and painful deaths! |
| 23:20.49 | JoshBorke | deathlog rather |
| 23:20.58 | Wobwor1 | I like running it, seeing what equipment people have, then seeing how they use their skills |
| 23:21.02 | AnduinLothar | so it stores what time each person died? |
| 23:21.04 | Wobwor1 | deathlog is useful |
| 23:21.12 | JoshBorke | AnduinLothar: it stores how they died |
| 23:21.18 | Wobwor1 | it stores the last X seconds on each person's death |
| 23:21.30 | Wobwor1 | so you can see the heals/damages til death |
| 23:21.34 | AnduinLothar | ah, how as in the last thing or all dmg? |
| 23:21.40 | AnduinLothar | ahh |
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| 23:21.43 | AnduinLothar | nifty |
| 23:21.43 | Wobwor1 | from 100% down |
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| 23:24.56 | Wobwor1 | oh and it has shiny graphs too |
| 23:25.31 | AnduinLothar | yeah, saw those |
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| 23:25.31 | Copilot | back from school! |
| 23:25.31 | JoshBorke | graphs are overrated |
| 23:25.31 | AnduinLothar | is it missing any features you wish it had? |
| 23:25.34 | JoshBorke | resizable deathlog |
| 23:25.54 | AnduinLothar | can you scroll the meter? |
| 23:26.06 | Wobwor1 | a more customisable battle sectioning |
| 23:26.12 | AnduinLothar | that's one thing i dont liek about swstats |
| 23:26.20 | AnduinLothar | is that you cant scroll |
| 23:26.29 | Wobwor1 | at the moment it stores them in groups of combat |
| 23:26.38 | Wobwor1 | but I'd like to be able to merge groups |
| 23:26.48 | Wobwor1 | or record more than (I think it's 4 or 5) |
| 23:26.54 | Wobwor1 | it does |
| 23:26.55 | JoshBorke | yea, 5 is the limit |
| 23:27.11 | Wobwor1 | how do you mean scroll the meter? |
| 23:27.25 | AnduinLothar | like the normal bars |
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| 23:27.38 | AnduinLothar | you can see x many and scroll upa nd down with mouse wheel liek DM |
| 23:27.41 | Wobwor1 | You only see 1-10 and you want to see 5-15? |
| 23:27.49 | AnduinLothar | ya |
| 23:27.56 | Wobwor1 | yeah, you can do that |
| 23:28.03 | Wobwor1 | I wonder why swstats doesn't do that |
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| 23:30.24 | Copilot | god i love 12 year olds http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=2856006693&postId=28556610584&sid=1#6 |
| 23:30.37 | Copilot | that came out wrong |
| 23:30.48 | Valaron|Work | Hmm |
| 23:31.07 | JoshBorke | why is 12 the magic number? |
| 23:31.24 | Valaron|Work | Puberty sets in. |
| 23:31.38 | Copilot | they start using the computer |
| 23:31.47 | foxlit | Tbh |
| 23:31.50 | foxlit | Outleet them! |
| 23:32.04 | Copilot | i did scroll down |
| 23:32.14 | Copilot | how can i change my name back to kelfarr? |
| 23:32.38 | foxlit | Just give a reply as an incomprehensible bunch of numbers and inappropriate-looking abbriviations |
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| 23:32.47 | Kelfarr | ok there we go? |
| 23:32.49 | Kelfarr | yay |
| 23:33.14 | Wobwor1 | "You Got Neudered"? |
| 23:34.43 | mikma | i still like your responses |
| 23:37.07 | Kelfarr | lol some guy made a topic saying his finger is getting sore from being a clicker so someone suggest a better mouse and keybinding and he said "what UI is that" |
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| 23:57.58 | kd3 | oh wow, that's fucked up. seems like the apartment complex's network is screwing with wow's data packets |
| 23:58.07 | kd3 | wireshark keeps complaining about TCP Checksum Incorrect |
| 23:58.29 | kd3 | my roommate and I keep getting stuck at retrieving character list |
| 23:58.29 | Cidan | WIRESHARK IS A HACKER TOOL, KICK/BAN BYE |
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