| 00:00.42 | Shirik | huh |
| 00:00.45 | Shirik | I just got an "Internal bag error" |
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| 00:02.03 | Iriel | I hate that one |
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| 00:08.55 | Cidan | art3mis: O |
| 00:08.57 | Cidan | 'er |
| 00:09.05 | Cidan | art3mis: I'll be sure to add a theme into Conspiracy |
| 00:09.15 | Cidan | a nice golden colour, with honey pots |
| 00:11.07 | art3mis | ehhe doing it up now |
| 00:11.36 | art3mis | im gonna switch to a more central looking up with support "boxes" for addition stuff |
| 00:11.52 | art3mis | not complete minimalist but not full bottom panel |
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| 00:31.08 | Bejitt | is #tableName the same as table.getn(tableName) ? |
| 00:33.27 | Kaso | Bejitt, yes |
| 00:34.03 | Kaso | however you should use # over table.getn, its quicker |
| 00:34.33 | Kaso | plus the manual says to use the # operator over the function |
| 00:34.46 | Cidan | huh |
| 00:34.48 | Cidan | really? |
| 00:34.51 | Cidan | didn't know that |
| 00:34.56 | Cidan | That's pretty neat |
| 00:34.57 | Kaso | "Function table.getn corresponds to the new length operator (#); use the operator instead of the function." |
| 00:35.21 | Intangir | wereHamster: you there? |
| 00:39.14 | Cide | >>> #{ 1, 2, 3 }, #"123456" |
| 00:39.14 | Cide | Cide: 3, 6 |
| 00:40.10 | Cidan | >>> local hax = {1,2,3,4,5,6}; #hax |
| 00:40.10 | Cide | Cidan: [string "local hax = {1,2,3,4,5,6}; #hax"]:1: unexpected symbol near '#' |
| 00:40.13 | Cidan | er |
| 00:40.19 | Cidan | >>> local hax = {1,2,3,4,5,6}; print(#hax); |
| 00:40.19 | Cide | Cidan: 6 |
| 00:41.56 | Kaso | intersting test i just did; for 10million itterations, using table.getn as a global it takes 2.812 seconds, using table.getn as a local copy takes 2.094 seconds, using # takes 0.859 seconds |
| 00:42.00 | Kaso | considerably faster |
| 00:42.27 | Cide | right, operator vs global table access + function call vs function call |
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| 00:45.33 | Bejitt | also, i think i remember hearing there was a difference between "" and ''? |
| 00:45.39 | Bejitt | or am i confusing languages again.. |
| 00:45.49 | sysrage | there's a diff in php |
| 00:45.54 | sysrage | dunno 'bout lua |
| 00:46.02 | Bejitt | that might be it |
| 00:46.15 | Kaso | in some languages ' ' denotes charaters whereas " " denotes strings, but im not aware of any difference in lua |
| 00:46.17 | Bejitt | '' looks better, so i'll stil to that :X |
| 00:46.19 | Iriel | They are subtly different (# and getn) |
| 00:46.31 | Bejitt | *stick |
| 00:46.32 | Iriel | as for lua, '' and "" are functionally equivalent |
| 00:46.52 | Kaso | as well as [[]] |
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| 00:47.02 | Kaso | or [==[]==] |
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| 00:47.17 | Bejitt | [[]] doesnt parse escapes though right? |
| 00:47.26 | Kaso | yah thats right |
| 01:03.49 | Intangir | anyone know an addon that toggles hiding the chat window |
| 01:03.57 | Intangir | a chat window hiding addon |
| 01:04.01 | Intangir | gimme! |
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| 01:19.08 | dylanm_ | <PROTECTED> |
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| 01:21.18 | art3mis | Helloween PoohUI should be ready later on tonight |
| 01:21.34 | art3mis | different style than hkui ;P |
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| 01:27.24 | Kemayo | All icon borders are pots of hunny? |
| 01:28.40 | Kirkburn | I've been making with the sexy today. Sexy WoW "critter" pix, that is :) http://www.wowwiki.com/Main_Page/FC |
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| 01:35.45 | Intangir | dylanm_: sweet |
| 01:40.19 | Intangir | how can i toggle it on or off? |
| 01:41.43 | dylanm_ | Intangir: Oh I was kinda joking. The sister script would be ChatFrame1:Show() but I'm sure someone has made a gigantic addon that does the job... |
| 01:42.03 | Intangir | dylanm_: i havent found one |
| 01:42.05 | Intangir | and that does work |
| 01:42.11 | Intangir | im just out of space for macros |
| 01:42.15 | Intangir | only have 1 slot left.. |
| 01:42.24 | dylanm_ | Well how do you want this to be triggered? |
| 01:42.35 | dylanm_ | This show/hide behavior. |
| 01:42.54 | Intangir | i can press a hotkey for a macro |
| 01:45.38 | dylanm_ | Well... I could write the world's smallest addon that just made a keybind for it, or you could condense this into one macro with /script ChatFrame1:IsShown() and ChatFrame1:Hide() or ChatFrame1:Show() |
| 01:45.59 | dylanm_ | I think that would do it :p |
| 01:46.12 | ScytheBlade1 | Does anyone know the duration of Leotheras's Whirlwind? |
| 01:47.31 | dylanm_ | wowwiki says 15 seconds, which sounds about right |
| 01:48.28 | Intangir | dylanm_: thanks |
| 01:49.00 | Intangir | wait whats the syntax for this? |
| 01:49.13 | Intangir | is it just like the syntax in lua files? |
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| 01:49.49 | dylanm_ | Intangir: Yeah, once you do /script the following text is just run through the lua interpreter. |
| 01:50.26 | Intangir | can i have more than one line? |
| 01:50.48 | Shirik | in a /script? |
| 01:50.50 | Shirik | no |
| 01:51.03 | Intangir | how do i do an if else on 1 line? |
| 01:51.10 | Shirik | newlines are meaningless in Lua |
| 01:51.31 | Shirik | >>> n = 4; if n == 4 then print("It's 4!") else print("It's not 4!"); end |
| 01:51.31 | Cide | Shirik: "It's 4!" |
| 01:52.05 | Shirik | a newline is no better than any other whitespace character |
| 01:53.40 | Intangir | i got /script if( ChatFrame1:IsShown() ) then ChatFrame1:Hide() else ChatFrame1:Show() |
| 01:53.44 | Intangir | but its not doing anything |
| 01:53.45 | Intangir | never hides |
| 01:53.52 | Shirik | you need an "end" at the end |
| 01:53.56 | Shirik | that should throw an error |
| 01:54.30 | Intangir | nice it works |
| 01:54.33 | Intangir | thanks guys |
| 01:54.37 | Shirik | =) |
| 01:55.51 | Intangir | ya thats perfect |
| 01:55.58 | Intangir | -> /script if( ChatFrame1:IsShown() ) then ChatFrame1:Hide() else ChatFrame1:Show() end |
| 01:56.09 | Intangir | now i can hide chat while recording videos ;) |
| 01:59.12 | Intangir | k laters |
| 02:07.09 | dylanm_ | :p what's wrong with abusing the boolean syntax |
| 02:07.28 | Shirik | ? |
| 02:08.13 | dylanm_ | Ah shoot I forgot... that really wouldn't work. The return value has to not be nil |
| 02:08.25 | Shirik | ?? |
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| 02:09.19 | Gnarfoz | dylanm_: yours should work fine, too |
| 02:09.37 | Shirik | oh |
| 02:09.40 | Shirik | yeah both would work |
| 02:11.38 | MentalPower | Iriel: how are getn() and # subtly different, I thought they were completely equivalent |
| 02:12.00 | JoshBork1 | not completely equivalent |
| 02:12.23 | JoshBork1 | it has to do with holes within the numeric indexing |
| 02:12.23 | Shirik | first things first |
| 02:12.27 | Shirik | getn is deprecated :) |
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| 02:13.39 | Cide | I think table.getn(tbl) == #tbl for tables |
| 02:13.51 | Cide | but #foo works on strings too, whereas table.getn doesn't |
| 02:14.02 | MentalPower | Shirik: I know that |
| 02:14.04 | JoshBork1 | i must be thinking of maxn then |
| 02:14.14 | Cide | see www.lua.org/manual/5.1/manual.html#2.5.5 (Function table.setn was deprecated. Function table.getn corresponds to the new length operator (#); use the operator instead of the function.) |
| 02:14.22 | Shirik | in fact... |
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| 02:14.30 | Shirik | >>> t = {1,2,3}; table.setn(t, 5); |
| 02:14.31 | Cide | Shirik: [string "t = {1,2,3}; table.setn(t, 5);"]:1: 'setn' is obsolete |
| 02:14.33 | Shirik | yeh |
| 02:14.44 | Shirik | so table.getn, afaik, should always return the same as #t |
| 02:14.51 | Shirik | but shouldn't be used :) |
| 02:14.52 | Cide | for tables, yeah |
| 02:14.58 | MentalPower | right, I've read that, but Iriel said that they were subtly different |
| 02:15.06 | Shirik | I know table.maxn is slightly different :) |
| 02:15.10 | Cide | unrelated |
| 02:15.12 | Shirik | table.getn... dunno |
| 02:15.27 | Cide | I think a function that returns length isn't a bad idea |
| 02:15.42 | Cide | so it's somewhat sad that they deprecated it |
| 02:16.08 | Cide | can't pass around an operator (but on the other hand you can just create your own function that returns the operator, I suppose) |
| 02:16.29 | MentalPower | why would you want to pass around an operator? |
| 02:17.05 | Cide | take python's reduce function, for example |
| 02:17.14 | Cide | well, likely not specific to python |
| 02:17.56 | Shirik | hm |
| 02:18.02 | Shirik | #t is by far faster than tgetn(t) |
| 02:18.12 | Shirik | where local tgetn = table.getn |
| 02:18.45 | Shirik | >>> time() |
| 02:18.46 | Cide | Shirik: 1192933126 |
| 02:18.49 | Shirik | >>> GetTime() |
| 02:18.49 | Cide | Shirik: [string "GetTime()"]:1: attempt to call global 'GetTime' (a nil value) |
| 02:18.56 | Shirik | =( do you have any millisecond precision timers Cide? |
| 02:18.58 | Esamynn | Shirik: "far faster" depends on the table size :P |
| 02:19.05 | Cide | >>> os.clock() |
| 02:19.05 | Cide | Cide: 0.002 |
| 02:19.11 | Shirik | I found "far faster" with a table of 3 elements |
| 02:19.24 | Shirik | So I'm assuming that a table of, say, 10, would be even further |
| 02:19.25 | Esamynn | I rest my cast :P |
| 02:19.30 | Shirik | but let's find ou |
| 02:19.36 | Esamynn | no, the difference would lessen I think |
| 02:19.46 | Esamynn | especially if there were holes |
| 02:20.01 | Shirik | If there are holes, both getn(t) and #t are undefined |
| 02:20.05 | Cide | >>> function mul(a, b) return a*b; end function add(a, b) return a+b; end function reduce(tbl, f) local result = 0; for key, value in ipairs(tbl) do result = f(result, value); end return result; end return reduce({ 2, 3, 5 }, mul), reduce({ 2, 3, 5 }, add) |
| 02:20.05 | Cide | Cide: 0, 10 |
| 02:20.14 | Cide | err |
| 02:20.14 | Esamynn | Shirik: I know that :) |
| 02:20.24 | Shirik | So I don't think it would be relevant to test a case that's undefined |
| 02:20.35 | Cide | >>> function mul(a, b) return a*b; end function add(a, b) return a+b; end function reduce(tbl, f) local result = f(tbl[1]); for key, value in ipairs(tbl) do if ( key > 1 ) then result = f(result, value); end end return result; end return reduce({ 2, 3, 5 }, mul), reduce({ 2, 3, 5 }, add) |
| 02:20.35 | Cide | Cide: [string "function mul(a, b) return a*b; end function..."]:1: attempt to perform arithmetic on local 'b' (a nil value) |
| 02:20.39 | Cide | meh |
| 02:20.42 | Cide | fuck it |
| 02:21.02 | Cide | anyway, there are plenty of use cases for passing around operators |
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| 02:21.07 | Shirik | >>> local z; local tgetn = table.getn; local t = {1,2,3}; local s = os.clock(); for x = 1,100000 do z = tgetn(x) end print(os.clock() -s ); |
| 02:21.08 | Cide | Shirik: [string "local z; local tgetn = table.getn; local t ..."]:1: bad argument #1 to 'tgetn' (table expected, got number) |
| 02:21.15 | Shirik | >>> local z; local tgetn = table.getn; local t = {1,2,3}; local s = os.clock(); for x = 1,100000 do z = tgetn(t) end print(os.clock() -s ); |
| 02:21.15 | Cide | Shirik: 0.067 |
| 02:21.25 | Shirik | >>> local z; local tgetn = table.getn; local t = {1,2,3}; local s = os.clock(); for x = 1,100000 do z = #t end print(os.clock() -s ); |
| 02:21.26 | Cide | Shirik: 0.053 |
| 02:21.53 | Shirik | now we'll try a 100-element table |
| 02:22.06 | Shirik | for the record, #t should be O(1), so it should be irrelevant. But let's see. |
| 02:22.29 | Cide | #t should be O(n), shouldn't it? |
| 02:22.47 | Cide | "The length of a table t is defined to be any integer index n such that t[n] is not nil and t[n+1] is nil; moreover, if t[1] is nil, n may be zero." |
| 02:22.49 | Shirik | negative, according to lua-users, getn() and #t work by looking up an internal variable "n" |
| 02:22.56 | Bejitt | i'd hope it wasnt O(n) |
| 02:22.57 | Shirik | which should be set at the time of the call |
| 02:22.59 | Bejitt | that'd be horrid |
| 02:23.31 | Cide | I guess that value n could be stored, yeah |
| 02:23.50 | Cide | s/could be/is/ |
| 02:24.09 | Shirik | >>> local z; local tgetn = table.getn; local t = "{"; for x = 1, 100 do t = t .. x .. "," end; t = t .. "101}"; t = loadstring("return "..t)(); local s = os.clock(); for x = 1,100000 do z = tgetn(t) end print(os.clock() -s ); |
| 02:24.09 | Cide | Shirik: 0.066 |
| 02:24.19 | Shirik | >>> local z; local tgetn = table.getn; local t = "{"; for x = 1, 100 do t = t .. x .. "," end; t = t .. "101}"; t = loadstring("return "..t)(); local s = os.clock(); for x = 1,100000 do z = #t end print(os.clock() -s ); |
| 02:24.19 | Cide | Shirik: 0.057 |
| 02:24.24 | Shirik | and that pretty much proves it |
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| 02:26.22 | Cidan | that's not even a .009 diff... |
| 02:26.29 | Shirik | it's a 25% difference |
| 02:26.51 | Cidan | over *100,000* iterations |
| 02:26.57 | Shirik | it's still 25% :) |
| 02:27.08 | Shirik | this should be amusing though... |
| 02:27.25 | Cidan | That's so negligible it's not even funny |
| 02:27.25 | Shirik | >>> local z; local tmaxn = table.maxn; local t = "{"; for x = 1, 100 do t = t .. x .. "," end; t = t .. "101}"; t = loadstring("return "..t)(); local s = os.clock(); for x = 1,100000 do z = tmaxn(t) end print(os.clock() -s ); |
| 02:27.26 | Cide | Shirik: 0.375 |
| 02:27.43 | Shirik | table.maxn, on the other hand, is indeed O(n) :) |
| 02:27.47 | Cide | oops |
| 02:27.53 | Cide | oops |
| 02:27.59 | Shirik | ? |
| 02:28.11 | Cidan | >>> .009 / 100000 |
| 02:28.12 | Cide | Cidan: 9e-008 |
| 02:28.14 | Cide | see if it works now |
| 02:28.16 | Cidan | lol |
| 02:28.20 | Cide | it appears to |
| 02:28.22 | Shirik | see if what works? |
| 02:28.25 | Cide | the bot |
| 02:28.32 | Cide | >>> local z; local tmaxn = table.maxn; local t = "{"; for x = 1, 100 do t = t .. x .. "," end; t = t .. "101}"; t = loadstring("return "..t)(); local s = os.clock(); for x = 1,100000 do z = tmaxn(t) end print(os.clock() -s ); |
| 02:28.32 | Cide | Cide: 0.375 |
| 02:28.35 | Cidan | that's what, 0.00000009? |
| 02:28.39 | Cidan | per call? |
| 02:28.40 | Cidan | lol |
| 02:28.44 | Shirik | it's 25%! |
| 02:28.48 | Shirik | That's the way you should be looking at it! |
| 02:28.53 | Cidan | haha |
| 02:28.54 | Shirik | What if I had a computer with a 10MHz clock |
| 02:29.08 | Cide | Shirik: try a script that errors |
| 02:29.08 | Shirik | or what if I was running a mac |
| 02:29.12 | Cidan | rofl |
| 02:29.14 | Shirik | >>> error("Hi Cide!") |
| 02:29.16 | Arrowmaster | hold on i might have one of those in the attic |
| 02:29.18 | Shirik | o.o |
| 02:29.20 | Cide | oops |
| 02:29.20 | Shirik | that's scary |
| 02:29.29 | Cide | try now |
| 02:29.30 | Shirik | 14(2211:2811:5614) 11-› 14[notice from Cide14]: <!NOTICE!> |
| 02:29.32 | Shirik | heh |
| 02:29.37 | Shirik | error("Hi again!!") |
| 02:29.42 | Shirik | >>> error("Hi again!!") |
| 02:29.46 | Shirik | fun |
| 02:29.49 | Shirik | so no more spam huh |
| 02:29.49 | Cide | better? |
| 02:29.53 | Shirik | I like it |
| 02:30.03 | Cide | the 3 line errors and 3 line scripts were kinda spammy, yeah |
| 02:30.05 | Arrowmaster | >>> error("wtf does this do?") |
| 02:30.19 | Arrowmaster | >>> error("wtf does this do?") error("oh") |
| 02:34.05 | Arrowmaster | >>> return "\0034does this thing do colors?" |
| 02:34.06 | Cide | Arrowmaster: "\0034does this thing do colors?" |
| 02:34.18 | Cide | it does escapes :) |
| 02:34.25 | Arrowmaster | no fun =( |
| 02:35.15 | Arrowmaster | >>> [[test]] |
| 02:35.15 | Cide | Arrowmaster: "test" |
| 02:35.24 | Arrowmaster | >>> [[\0034test]] |
| 02:35.24 | Cide | Arrowmaster: "\\0034test" |
| 02:35.59 | Shirik | I personally liked >>> "\nNOTICE #wowi-lounge: goodbye\nQUIT" |
| 02:36.02 | Shirik | but it doesn't work anymore |
| 02:36.36 | Cide | did that ever work? |
| 02:36.40 | Cide | I'm ashamed if it did |
| 02:36.48 | Shirik | yeah :) |
| 02:36.50 | Shirik | when you first had it |
| 02:36.53 | Shirik | don't you remember this? |
| 02:37.00 | Cide | you broke it in so many ways, so no |
| 02:37.06 | Shirik | haha |
| 02:37.12 | Shirik | I don't even think I did that one |
| 02:37.14 | Cide | but now a big mess instead |
| 02:37.19 | Shirik | i'm fairly certain it was someone else |
| 02:37.21 | Cide | I should rewrite it but I'm lazy |
| 02:40.51 | Arrowmaster | >>> return string.char(92).."0034test" |
| 02:40.52 | Cide | Arrowmaster: "\\0034test" |
| 02:41.18 | Arrowmaster | no fun at all |
| 02:41.52 | Wobin | argghgh |
| 02:41.52 | Wobin | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=2520303832&sid=1 |
| 02:41.59 | Wobin | I can't believe that =( |
| 02:42.15 | Wobin | nonono =( |
| 02:42.40 | Wobin | worst change ever |
| 02:42.57 | Wobin | It was almost to the point where you had to be competent to do heroics |
| 02:43.06 | Wobin | Now it's going to be impossible to get good groups |
| 02:43.11 | Arrowmaster | i did heroics yesterday |
| 02:43.17 | Arrowmaster | i almost fell asleep |
| 02:43.32 | Arrowmaster | theyre so sad now |
| 02:43.36 | Wobin | Arrowmaster: Yes, but you're geared for it |
| 02:43.44 | Arrowmaster | how do you know? |
| 02:43.53 | Wobin | Or a hunter =P |
| 02:43.57 | Industrial | lol. |
| 02:43.58 | Wobin | Or maybe a lock |
| 02:44.01 | Arrowmaster | nah geared for it |
| 02:44.03 | Wobin | see? |
| 02:44.12 | Wobin | If you were in quest greens do you think it'd be so easy? |
| 02:44.21 | JoshBork1 | ~lart Wobin |
| 02:44.21 | purl | slaps Wobin around with a large trout |
| 02:44.25 | JoshBork1 | gief splut |
| 02:44.26 | Arrowmaster | bear tank + pally healer + 3 1k dpsers |
| 02:44.33 | Arrowmaster | so boring |
| 02:44.40 | Wobin | I mean ffs, I was in a SH run last week. And the pally was wearing lvl 60 gear |
| 02:44.52 | bleeter | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:44.53 | bleeter | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:44.53 | bleeter | | | | | | | | | |\/| | | | |/ _ \ | |_) | |
| 02:44.53 | bleeter | | |_| | |_| | | | | | |_| / ___ \| _ < |
| 02:44.53 | bleeter | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:44.55 | bleeter | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:44.58 | Industrial | rofl |
| 02:45.04 | Wobin | ~lart bleeter |
| 02:45.04 | purl | takes a large goose feather pillow and swings it wildly in bleeter's direction, hitting bleeter and sending bleeter flying into the closet |
| 02:45.17 | Arrowmaster | we did BM and found it so fucking easy, non of us had ever actually done a heroic BM before |
| 02:45.43 | Wobin | with 3 1k dpsers I'm not too surprised =P |
| 02:45.59 | Wobin | that's not even a point of argument =P |
| 02:46.33 | Wobin | that like saying "OMG, I went to play bowling and used a wrecking ball instead of a bowling ball. Gee, it was so boring!" |
| 02:46.34 | Arrowmaster | i mean sure we wiped on the last boss due to fucked up timing of 3 special abilitys going off at once killing the tank but we ran back ate + drank buffed and pulled him again with the sheild still at like 40% |
| 02:47.36 | Wobin | With only requiring honoured to get the key, there will be players who haven't even played the -normal- instance trying heroics |
| 02:47.53 | bleeter | so I'm goin' with 'they're tuning everything up so people can have lotsa fun over summer before WotLK hits' |
| 02:47.56 | Wobin | thus making it harder to actually get a good group |
| 02:48.14 | Wobin | screw that =P |
| 02:48.15 | bleeter | Wobin: meh, dunno... both my 70's toons ain't done heroics. |
| 02:48.26 | Wobin | bleeter: but they've done the normals, right? |
| 02:48.26 | bleeter | though that was 'coz I've been elvelling some alts |
| 02:48.31 | bleeter | yeah |
| 02:48.34 | Wobin | see? |
| 02:48.47 | Wobin | You can get honoured with, say, CE without even touching an instance |
| 02:48.53 | bleeter | but, all in all, 2.3's smelling like a huge tune up so people can *have fun* before WoTLK hits |
| 02:49.19 | bleeter | ie, with the BC stuff, they tuned 'the world' after BC was released, this time around they're adjusting beforehand |
| 02:49.42 | Wobin | See, I'd prefer they make heroics a -little- more difficult |
| 02:49.46 | Wobin | to achieve |
| 02:50.30 | Wobin | not that they're particularly hard, but by the time they reach revered, they're pretty good players that understand the instances |
| 02:50.35 | Arrowmaster | difficult is fine but less boring trash pls and no pita trash like it used to be |
| 02:50.45 | Wobin | I -so- do not want to have to teach a noob how to run a heroic instance |
| 02:50.54 | Wobin | It's bad enough on the normals |
| 02:50.59 | bleeter | well don't group with noobs then |
| 02:51.00 | Wobin | I spent 5 hours in a normal mech |
| 02:51.02 | bleeter | pretty simple |
| 02:51.06 | Wobin | bleeter: easy for you to say |
| 02:51.25 | bleeter | 5 hours in normal mech's nothing... I've spent 7-8 in normal SL :P |
| 02:51.30 | Wobin | that's like saying: "Oh, there's a war out there? Oh, just don't fight." |
| 02:51.32 | bleeter | so stfu u don't know pain :P |
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| 02:51.39 | Wobin | bleeter: I've done that too |
| 02:51.49 | Wobin | bleeter: but that was due to bad pulls/wipes etc |
| 02:52.03 | Wobin | not due to you having to step-by-fucking-step explain everything and have them wander around |
| 02:52.18 | Wobin | so stfu you don't know pain =P |
| 02:52.40 | bleeter | actually... pain is the choice of what we have on free-to-air telly tonight :/ |
| 02:53.11 | Wobin | we're apparantly getting what we paid for |
| 02:53.45 | JoshBork1 | ~joshborke |
| 02:53.45 | purl | Yes, I'm even more stupid than Thrae. I'm also a smart-ass. And apparently I'm not a person, so I don't count. |
| 02:54.57 | Industrial | ~emulate Industrial |
| 02:54.58 | purl | Ogm teh tpyoas! Mroe ceffein pls! |
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| 03:28.57 | art3mis | ~emulate zoidberg |
| 03:29.11 | art3mis | purl for the looooooooooooooooosssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssseeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee |
| 03:30.26 | bleeter | ~ziodberg |
| 03:30.29 | bleeter | bah |
| 03:30.32 | bleeter | ~zoidberg |
| 03:30.43 | bleeter | screwit |
| 03:33.49 | Cidan | ~zoidburg |
| 03:34.19 | Cidan | nope, it's e |
| 03:34.22 | Cidan | berg, that is |
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| 03:55.40 | Wobin | PS, I <3 the pirate costume as a rogue |
| 03:55.51 | Wobin | shifting costumes each time you come out of stealth is great =) |
| 03:56.20 | bleeter | similar bug happens with engi's and transporter errors |
| 03:56.38 | bleeter | it's like the system knows you have a random shapeshift, but can't tell which one was last applied |
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| 04:41.24 | Shirik | purl, hi |
| 04:41.25 | purl | hello, shirik |
| 04:41.36 | Bejitt | that's odd, GetGuildInfo doesnt work for absolute names? |
| 04:41.36 | Shirik | ~emulate zoidberg |
| 04:41.46 | Shirik | hm |
| 04:42.09 | Shirik | #api GetGuildInfo |
| 04:42.13 | Shirik | !api GetGuildInfo |
| 04:42.14 | ThraeBot | Shirik: guildName, guildRankName, guildRankIndex = GetGuildInfo(unit); -- http://www.wowwiki.com/API_GetGuildInfo |
| 04:42.47 | Bejitt | all the other Get*(unit) methods can take player names |
| 04:42.48 | Shirik | a name is not a unit |
| 04:42.59 | Bejitt | !api GetClass |
| 04:43.00 | ThraeBot | Bejitt: Could not find a relevant page. Perhaps you could be so kind as to create one? http://www.wowwiki.com/API_GetClass |
| 04:43.06 | Bejitt | waiuiiiit |
| 04:43.14 | Shirik | I think you're crazy |
| 04:43.18 | Bejitt | hm |
| 04:43.19 | Shirik | You mean UnitClass, UnitName, etc? |
| 04:43.24 | Bejitt | the wowwiki page is bad :P |
| 04:43.26 | Bejitt | yes |
| 04:43.26 | Shirik | they only take names if they're in your raid |
| 04:43.35 | Shirik | because then, and ONLY then, is that name a valid unit |
| 04:43.51 | Shirik | that is to say, if I'm in your raid as "raid2" |
| 04:43.58 | Shirik | then I can be referenced by either "raid2" or "shirik" |
| 04:44.11 | Shirik | My target can be referenced by either "raid2target" or "shirik-target" |
| 04:44.23 | Bejitt | hmm |
| 04:44.23 | Shirik | etc. |
| 04:44.38 | Shirik | and that is the only time a literal name will work |
| 04:45.44 | Bejitt | kk thanks |
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| 04:45.58 | Bejitt | now i know i missed something in other parts :X |
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| 04:48.23 | Shirik | =) |
| 04:48.28 | Shirik | such is the life of a programmer |
| 04:53.09 | Bejitt | hmmmm to excessively hook a blizz UI or to remake it... |
| 04:53.32 | Bejitt | and by hook, i dont mean the clean kind :( |
| 04:54.00 | AnduinLothar | hooking taints unfortunetly |
| 04:54.43 | Bejitt | well, i dont think tainting should be an issue for this one |
| 04:54.58 | Bejitt | i'm stabbing the Inspect UI |
| 04:56.27 | Bejitt | i'm keeping the frame from hiding when you deselect, but that causes errors from all the UnitLevel(unit) etc calls in the InspectUI |
| 04:59.05 | Bejitt | secure hooking that called your methods -before- what you're hooking would be nice |
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| 05:05.39 | Cidan | Shirik: you here? |
| 05:05.43 | Shirik | yoh |
| 05:05.49 | Cidan | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YISLJqlFe80 |
| 05:07.20 | Bejitt | haha wtf |
| 05:07.37 | Cidan | Bejitt: inside joke |
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| 05:08.11 | Bejitt | hai hai |
| 05:08.23 | Cidan | Quit it, you don't speak the language. |
| 05:08.57 | Bejitt | pffft |
| 05:09.05 | Bejitt | dekirun da yo |
| 05:09.18 | Bejitt | mmm sukoshi |
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| 05:10.24 | Bejitt | yo-nen kara ni-nen kan benkyoushita |
| 05:10.35 | Bejitt | gah i think i got that right |
| 05:12.33 | ScytheBlade1 | Do we have a dev guild yet? |
| 05:13.37 | Cidan | I had thought about it |
| 05:13.45 | ScytheBlade1 | Guild banks are in |
| 05:13.51 | ScytheBlade1 | I am all kinds of curious |
| 05:13.53 | Cidan | I have the petition going on Eredar, was going to do it. |
| 05:14.00 | Cidan | oh you mean on test? |
| 05:14.01 | Cidan | pfft |
| 05:14.02 | ScytheBlade1 | PvE? |
| 05:14.02 | Cidan | :P |
| 05:14.05 | ScytheBlade1 | lol |
| 05:14.08 | Cidan | no, PvP |
| 05:14.12 | ScytheBlade1 | We have a real one on Draka |
| 05:14.22 | Shirik | omg |
| 05:14.23 | Shirik | Cidan |
| 05:14.24 | Shirik | awesome |
| 05:14.26 | ScytheBlade1 | Horde and alliance side |
| 05:15.03 | Cidan | Isn't it? |
| 05:15.07 | Cidan | I WANT THE FSCKING MP3 |
| 05:15.11 | Cidan | I can't _find_ it |
| 05:15.51 | Shirik | lol |
| 05:15.54 | Shirik | nani de no |
| 05:15.56 | Shirik | they hate each other |
| 05:16.03 | Shirik | sibling rivalry or something |
| 05:16.08 | Shirik | are they related? |
| 05:16.15 | Cidan | it's like, 6 girls |
| 05:16.26 | Shirik | 1:30 |
| 05:16.36 | Cidan | the whole thing is them discussing who will get to lead the rap part of their song |
| 05:16.39 | Shirik | ah |
| 05:16.41 | Shirik | that would explain it |
| 05:16.44 | Cidan | they each make a small intro, and why they should do it |
| 05:16.49 | Cidan | 'til they decide to do it all together |
| 05:17.55 | Cidan | name of the song is Danketsu |
| 05:18.33 | Shirik | wait Cidan |
| 05:18.36 | Shirik | you're making a guild on eredar? |
| 05:18.45 | Shirik | (another guild?) |
| 05:18.53 | Cidan | I was considering it |
| 05:18.59 | Cidan | the old BC Beta guild |
| 05:19.02 | Cidan | CastSpell |
| 05:20.46 | Shirik | omg cidan that was awesome |
| 05:21.30 | ScytheBlade1 | Whoo, them guild bank things are pricey |
| 05:21.37 | Cidan | lol |
| 05:21.39 | ScytheBlade1 | 1g, 10g, 100g, 1000g, 5000g, 10000g |
| 05:21.42 | ScytheBlade1 | Per tab, in order |
| 05:22.05 | Cidan | It's the song in the new Katamari game |
| 05:22.11 | Shirik | how many slots in a tab? |
| 05:22.14 | ScytheBlade1 | 98 |
| 05:22.16 | Cidan | 96? |
| 05:22.40 | Bejitt | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DovjEg3uMQA wtb the helmet |
| 05:23.23 | Cidan | I really really need to go back and learn to read moonspeak better. |
| 05:26.33 | Wobin | !c us argent dawn nitefox |
| 05:26.35 | ThraeBot | Wobin: Nitefox, Level 70 Night Elf Priest (8/0/53). 7861 HP; 9675 Mana; 140 mana regen; 5 mp5; 130 spell crit; 98 spell hit; 524 +spell dmg/heal; 179 frost dmg (703); 218 shadow dmg (742); 6.18% dodge; 10 nature resist (+10); +3 all resists (+10 nature);[[ TBR: 1096 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/yw2upn ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/38hgx5 ][ Updated: Sun Oct 21 01:29:45 2007 EST ]] |
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| 05:34.58 | Cidan | can't find the bloody MP3 |
| 05:39.10 | Shirik | so yes, I just watched that a second time |
| 05:39.15 | Shirik | that is beyond awesome |
| 05:43.28 | Shirik | so wierd they spell out "hehe" |
| 05:43.32 | Shirik | on several characters |
| 05:43.42 | Shirik | eh, I guess we do it too |
| 05:44.02 | Cidan | yerp |
| 05:44.11 | Cidan | I'll keep my eyes open for the MP3 |
| 05:48.23 | Bejitt | when is 'this' set? |
| 05:48.43 | Bejitt | what i want to eventually get at is: how can i force 'this' to be another object? :X |
| 05:50.03 | Cidan | why would you want to? |
| 05:50.14 | Cidan | "this" is used in scripts |
| 05:50.22 | Cidan | I don't think it's set anywhere else |
| 05:52.44 | Cidan | but I wouldn't overwrite or change "this" |
| 05:52.59 | Iriel | You can always set it, but there are implications if you then call something which expects to run securely |
| 05:54.21 | Cidan | or if some other addon does |
| 05:54.38 | Cidan | well no, it would just be reset, hmm |
| 05:55.03 | Cidan | anyways, I can't see a real reason to overwrite it |
| 05:56.24 | Iriel | some blizzard code requires 'this' to be set, and sometimes you want to call it for a specific object |
| 05:56.59 | Mr_Rabies2 | ugh |
| 05:57.06 | Mr_Rabies2 | the strider battle at the end of episode 2 sucks ass |
| 05:57.21 | Bejitt | Iriel summed that up :D |
| 05:57.37 | Bejitt | Mr_Rabies2: try the achievement |
| 05:57.38 | Iriel | Mr_Rabies2: heh, I finished that this afternoon |
| 05:57.40 | Mr_Rabies2 | HEY LET ME KILL HUNTERS WHILE TAKING ADVANTAGE OF THE TEN SECOND WINDOW TO REFILL AMMO AND RUN BACK TO MY CAR WITH A MAGNUSSON DEVICE |
| 05:57.44 | Bejitt | 'save all the buildings' |
| 05:57.47 | Mr_Rabies2 | yeah, i am, Bejitt |
| 05:58.03 | Mr_Rabies2 | only 2 more striders to go and this one literally shows up and nukes a building in 10 sec |
| 05:58.07 | Bejitt | i had issues getting them to stick sometimes :( |
| 05:58.12 | Bejitt | yea |
| 05:58.18 | Iriel | Generally it's because they get shot by a hunter |
| 05:58.22 | Iriel | and lose their stickiness |
| 05:58.24 | Bejitt | they usually knocked them down before i even saw them too |
| 05:58.31 | Bejitt | yea that's what i thought |
| 05:58.56 | Mr_Rabies2 | the hunters shoot them as soon as i pick the damn thing up |
| 05:59.01 | Bejitt | haha yea |
| 05:59.03 | Mr_Rabies2 | which would be nice if i could get it to stick and take it out |
| 05:59.21 | Mr_Rabies2 | that fight would be 10x more fun without the hunters |
| 05:59.36 | Bejitt | but 20x easier |
| 06:00.03 | Iriel | Ok.. the Hellgate London single player demo is certfiably lame (if you've played the multiplayer beta) |
| 06:01.18 | Cidan | I didn't |
| 06:01.20 | Cidan | however |
| 06:01.36 | Cidan | If you want to not sleep well tonight |
| 06:01.39 | Cidan | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cqi5F5MqqTQ |
| 06:04.28 | Fin | I would like to update an addon on wowi that another author wrote |
| 06:04.42 | Fin | do I have to call my version (Fan's update) or similar? |
| 06:04.51 | Fin | it's a version that the author released on another site |
| 06:05.08 | Fin | (not responding to requests to update wowi, which was the first thing I tried 'course :) |
| 06:05.10 | AnduinLothar | just bugg him to update wowi |
| 06:05.17 | AnduinLothar | bug more |
| 06:05.23 | Cairenn|afk | either get them to hand it over to you, or upload it ..................nm, you can't, you have to ask to update it on wowi |
| 06:05.39 | Fin | or call mine (Fan's update) :) |
| 06:05.46 | Cairenn|afk | *if* it was an abandoned mod, you could upload it as a patch |
| 06:05.51 | Fin | -a+i? |
| 06:06.09 | Cairenn|afk | no - if you downloaded it from somewhere else that the original author has updated it, you can't repost it on wowi |
| 06:06.14 | Fin | does "abandoned" cover "abandoned this site"? |
| 06:06.14 | Cairenn|afk | period |
| 06:06.18 | Cairenn|afk | no |
| 06:06.27 | Cairenn|afk | the author is still actively maintaining it |
| 06:06.52 | Fin | well, that's pretty much what I expected, but it's always worth checking |
| 06:06.54 | Fin | cheers for the info |
| 06:07.05 | Cairenn|afk | we *will not* violate author copyright - thank you for checking first |
| 06:07.10 | Fin | ye gods curse is slow in Opera |
| 06:07.31 | Fin | it's not violating author copyright though - they actually released the addon elsewhere under a liberal license |
| 06:08.13 | Fin | nice to hear that copyright is a guiding principle though! |
| 06:08.45 | Cairenn|afk | always has been (5+ years), always will be |
| 06:09.11 | Cairenn|afk | anyway, I'm to bed - bug the author again to update at wowi if you want to |
| 06:09.18 | Cairenn|afk | night guys |
| 06:09.25 | AnduinLothar | nn cair |
| 06:10.20 | Cidan | Fin: You could always fork the project assuming you're going to do actual work on it and aren't just uploading someone elses work. |
| 06:10.30 | Cidan | Also assuming the license allows for it |
| 06:11.43 | Fin | Cidan: there's no work, all I'm attempting to do is help out anyone who doesn't use Curse much by getting the version of an addon on wowi updated to the most current released |
| 06:12.30 | Cidan | Then, :( |
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| 06:12.48 | Cidan | It's the author's choice as to where the UI is uploaded |
| 06:16.26 | Furl | Hey, The King's Back! |
| 06:33.42 | Shirik | night guys |
| 06:48.18 | the-golem | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:48.23 | the-golem | damn fat fingers |
| 06:49.17 | the-golem | "assuming the license allows for it" how can it not be anything else but GPL? |
| 06:49.34 | the-golem | unless theres art or something involved |
| 06:51.41 | the-golem | s/GPL/GPL or other OSS licenses/ |
| 06:52.45 | MentalPower | gnight all |
| 06:58.39 | Bejitt | if i do "x = a or b" will b be evaluated if a is true? |
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| 07:03.11 | sixen-debug | zZz. |
| 07:03.35 | sixen-debug | =) |
| 07:05.02 | sixen-debug | =[ |
| 07:41.53 | Thunder_Child | sweet http://gizmodo.com/gadgets/comcast/75+year+old-sends-a-hammering-blow-to-comcasts-customer-service-313236.php |
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| 07:53.24 | Fin | I have nothing against them personally, but Curse is as slow as /who tuller |
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| 07:59.37 | weab | Bejitt: as i understand it, no |
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| 08:37.31 | cncfanatics | hello ppl |
| 08:46.16 | art3mis | what shows on stance bar for huinters btw? |
| 08:46.19 | art3mis | err hunters |
| 08:46.24 | art3mis | nothing? |
| 08:50.43 | art3mis | http://www.gothi.ca/Stuff/pooh-screenie.jpg |
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| 08:56.54 | cncfanatics | their aspects |
| 08:57.15 | art3mis | oh hrm |
| 08:57.19 | cncfanatics | art3mis, did u skin FB with the hello kitty skin ? :p |
| 08:59.05 | cncfanatics | shame on you tbh :( |
| 08:59.58 | art3mis | for that screenie? |
| 09:00.13 | art3mis | well i havent made the cycircled for pooh yet |
| 09:00.17 | dreamss | anyone here use tinyfw? |
| 09:00.18 | art3mis | and its bt3 |
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| 09:02.14 | art3mis | a monk walks up to a hotdog vendor and says "Hey, make me one with everything" |
| 09:03.50 | Thunder_Child | ~lart art3mis |
| 09:03.50 | purl | blasts art3mis with a huge firehose then strangles art3mis with it |
| 09:04.30 | art3mis | ? |
| 09:04.45 | Thunder_Child | (02:02:21) (art3mis) a monk walks up to a hotdog vendor and says "Hey, make me one with everything" |
| 09:05.01 | art3mis | come on it was a good one |
| 09:05.44 | Thunder_Child | it's a pun, puns will be shot on sight |
| 09:06.17 | art3mis | but they're aways of such good caliber ;P |
| 09:10.49 | krka | i dont get it |
| 09:10.59 | krka | wait... maybe i do |
| 09:13.13 | art3mis | which part? |
| 09:13.15 | art3mis | heh |
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| 11:38.39 | zenzelezz | well that's new... people asking to buy RO/Runescape accounts for WoW gold on trade channel |
| 11:40.11 | art3mis | heh |
| 11:40.22 | art3mis | wonder if Zu is gonna be any good |
| 11:40.38 | art3mis | waiting til the end of the month alpha invite |
| 11:40.50 | zenzelezz | Zu? |
| 11:45.39 | art3mis | zu.iig.com |
| 11:45.42 | art3mis | or igg.com |
| 11:45.45 | art3mis | one of the two |
| 11:45.50 | art3mis | some new martial arts mmo |
| 11:46.07 | art3mis | screenies looked neat so i guess ill see if its gonna suck |
| 11:46.25 | art3mis | as long as i can mode the interface i'll be fine :) |
| 11:52.32 | zenzelezz | ever since I started working on a 24" LCD I can't help wondering if I should upgrade my 17" LCDs at home |
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| 12:17.44 | art3mis | yes |
| 12:18.03 | art3mis | OR if tis a dual 17 just get a 30 mac dvi ;P |
| 12:18.55 | zenzelezz | right now I have one 15" for the "IRC computer" and two 17" for the main computer, thinking of keeping the best 17" and getting two 22" |
| 12:21.50 | art3mis | go bigger |
| 12:21.54 | art3mis | you'll be happier |
| 12:22.04 | zenzelezz | I only have so much space on this desk |
| 12:22.11 | foxlit | With big monitors come big video cards! |
| 12:22.15 | zenzelezz | it is tempting to go for 24" for the extra native resolution |
| 12:24.15 | art3mis | http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=2884801&CatId=2775 |
| 12:24.20 | art3mis | thats what i bought for me and wifey |
| 12:26.02 | art3mis | although if 1920x1200 is worth the extra 200~$ go for it ;P |
| 12:26.25 | art3mis | ive got one of those MASS 4x15" panels are work |
| 12:26.31 | zenzelezz | price is the major difference between 22" and 24" :-| |
| 12:26.34 | zenzelezz | looking at http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=2881203&CatId=2775 right now |
| 12:27.01 | art3mis | im partially tempted to hook it up just cuz with those usb video "cables" i could pull off 4 desks |
| 12:27.08 | art3mis | for about 150$ |
| 12:28.07 | art3mis | i know for a fact eh viewsonics rock |
| 12:28.21 | art3mis | even has a built in center speaker if your so inclined |
| 12:28.31 | art3mis | had em both for about 2 year |
| 12:29.08 | zenzelezz | I don't like using monitor speakers =) But my reason for looking at the Samsung is I have good experience with that brand, plus they have that one at the store I'd be buying |
| 12:30.18 | art3mis | yeah |
| 12:30.24 | art3mis | both are decent |
| 12:30.36 | art3mis | if you've used samsung and not jhad em burn they're a keeper ;P |
| 12:30.48 | art3mis | the early models sucked |
| 12:30.51 | zenzelezz | never had a problem with my Samsung |
| 12:31.05 | zenzelezz | however, I've had *3* Acer AL1715 die in different ways |
| 12:31.06 | art3mis | then definately go with tha |
| 12:31.07 | art3mis | t |
| 12:31.19 | art3mis | thats the only reason i keep buy LG burners |
| 13:04.15 | Wobin | hm, will PromoteToLeader work with playernames as the unitid? |
| 13:20.05 | Kaso | PromoteByName("name") |
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| 13:28.52 | Wobin | that works in raids, eh? cool |
| 13:29.14 | Wobin | er |
| 13:29.23 | Wobin | actually, PromoteToAssistant is what I wanted |
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| 14:00.55 | the-golem | art3mis: ping |
| 14:01.04 | the-golem | damn |
| 14:01.08 | the-golem | wrong name ^^ |
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| 16:28.18 | Kirkburn | Sunwell Isle ftw - http://www.wowwiki.com/Sunwell_Isle |
| 16:30.06 | Shirik|AFK | whoever wrote that page fails at grammar |
| 16:32.14 | Kirkburn | huh? |
| 16:32.28 | Shirik|AFK | I fixed it already, no worries |
| 16:32.39 | Kirkburn | oh right |
| 16:32.41 | Kirkburn | ta |
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| 16:41.55 | |Jelly| | Merry Sunday, everyone! |
| 16:42.09 | Shirik | ~lart |Jelly| |
| 16:42.10 | purl | plops |Jelly| into a giant vat of herring |
| 16:42.16 | |Jelly| | :( |
| 16:42.23 | Shirik | Sundays are not for being merry |
| 16:42.30 | |Jelly| | What are they for? |
| 16:42.37 | Shirik | Sundays are for doing a ton of work that you put off until sunday |
| 16:42.43 | |Jelly| | Oh. |
| 16:42.52 | |Jelly| | Umm. What if I don't really have that problem? |
| 16:47.51 | Shirik | then I hate you forever |
| 16:48.07 | |Jelly| | Forever? |
| 16:48.11 | |Jelly| | Shirik no! :( |
| 16:48.45 | Shirik | <3 |
| 16:49.23 | |Jelly| | yay! <3 |
| 16:50.03 | Kirkburn | |Jelly|, would it cheer you up even more to tell you a new zone is coming :) |
| 16:50.15 | |Jelly| | orly? Do tell. :) |
| 16:50.20 | Kirkburn | http://www.wowwiki.com/Sunwell_Isle |
| 16:50.26 | |Jelly| | And I'm pretty cheerful...coffee will do that to me. |
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| 16:55.45 | zenzelezz | "your gold is welcome"... level 1's guild |
| 17:00.09 | Lysistrata | oO |
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| 17:00.46 | Lysistrata | Lately it's a pain to visit the major citys there are always spammers around. Spamming /2, /s, /e >_> |
| 17:02.53 | [melin] | well.. Blizz can do something about it but they wont.. |
| 17:03.04 | [melin] | best thing would be to remove the trial accounts |
| 17:03.19 | Cide | you really think the trial accounts are causing that? |
| 17:03.35 | [melin] | but it would mean they'd lose a bit of cash.. so as long as the majority of the players dont do any real protests against the spams - they wont do much |
| 17:03.47 | [melin] | the spammers are using trial accounts to spam from |
| 17:04.10 | Shirik | Cide: If it's anything like the problems we had in RF Online, I'm sure it is |
| 17:04.23 | Shirik | but who knows |
| 17:04.51 | [melin] | I wish there was a quicker way to check level of players from their name except from a /who |
| 17:05.01 | [melin] | then I could just ignore all messages sent from lvl 1 chars |
| 17:05.38 | Cide | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:05.42 | Cide | store names |
| 17:05.45 | Cide | ignore accordingly |
| 17:05.57 | Cide | repeat every few minutes |
| 17:05.59 | [melin] | Cide...... I think I love you :D |
| 17:06.11 | [melin] | why didnt I think of that? |
| 17:06.27 | [melin] | only needed to do when in capitols really |
| 17:06.36 | [melin] | dont wanna ignore the lvl1's that runs in the starting areas |
| 17:07.07 | Lysistrata | This wouldn't help the spam in /2 expect if you do it for all major cities instead of just your actual zone, right? |
| 17:07.24 | [melin] | true |
| 17:07.47 | [melin] | but its only 4 cities I need to who.. so nothing seriously long I guess =) |
| 17:08.03 | Cide | if you make a mod out of it, make sure you release it to others |
| 17:08.08 | Cide | and I want royalties |
| 17:08.29 | Lysistrata | Repsoting my question I had in #wowwiki here... Hi :) Does anyone know a really tiny simplelistic PHP Script to allow "Instance Visit" Managment? I don't need a fully grown DKP System. Something like GroupCalender (UI Addon) would be sufficient but I'd like to have it on a PHP Base. Maybe someones knows ;D |
| 17:08.33 | [melin] | oh I will.. getting ideas now.. pick all players from level 1-5 (default) not in a guild - ignoring |
| 17:08.55 | [melin] | Lysistrata sorry..I build all my shit myself |
| 17:09.32 | Lysistrata | I'm lazy I don't want to build it myself :B though I probably could. But then it wouldn't be all fancy with AJAX and all those cool things... ^^ |
| 17:10.07 | [melin] | ajax is easy |
| 17:10.19 | [melin] | but - Ive never used any dkp system in WoW (except my own) |
| 17:11.36 | Lysistrata | I don't need a real dkp system. It's more like a "Event Calender" so I'd like to have a User Setup a Event like "Gnomeregan visit" or "RP Meeting in Darkshire" and other (regsiterd) Users just sign up for it. :) So it's a bit different from a real DKP System. |
| 17:11.58 | [melin] | ah.. I had such system in ASP :P |
| 17:12.54 | Cide | what about http://www.phpraider.com/? |
| 17:13.08 | Lysistrata | To bad my system doesnt run ASP ^^ |
| 17:13.11 | [melin] | made plans for raids etc online.. each registered member got an email with the details.. and they signed up etc |
| 17:13.23 | [melin] | the calendar had icons for each planned raid |
| 17:13.33 | [melin] | well.. Im gonna make one in php instead |
| 17:13.48 | Lysistrata | Cide I already had a look at phpraider but at least on my home machine it gives me a lot of errors and the download systemmis weird + you can't simply use the cvs (for whatever reason) |
| 17:15.04 | Lysistrata | That sounds nice. Tell me if you finish it. ;) |
| 17:23.18 | Shirik | ASP is evil, never talk again |
| 17:23.59 | Shirik | =P |
| 17:30.09 | Shirik | Is Kamdis == |Jelly| ? |
| 17:31.26 | |Jelly| | You're kidding, right? :P |
| 17:31.32 | Shirik | =( |
| 17:31.49 | Shirik | it says "Jelly > You" in signature... |
| 17:32.13 | |Jelly| | So? hehe |
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| 17:35.05 | Shirik | Kamdis, stop hiding from me! |
| 17:35.07 | Shirik | I know you're here! |
| 17:35.22 | Shirik | oh wait |
| 17:35.26 | Shirik | [W To] ... |
| 17:35.29 | Shirik | I'm going to go away now |
| 17:35.36 | |Jelly| | roflamo |
| 17:41.35 | zenzelezz | bunch of pumpkinheads on the way to Vashj... looks funny |
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| 18:00.49 | zenzelezz | funny how spinning effects around your character (like Earth Shield) spin super fast if you rotate your character in the same direction it moves, or super slow if you rotate the other way |
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| 18:03.25 | zenzelezz | did Worg Pups (the companion) always make sounds when you target them? |
| 18:06.31 | Arcaia | http://www.randomfew.net/random.public/uiss/WoWScrnShot_102107_133441.jpg |
| 18:07.19 | zenzelezz | what are we looking at, the 2h comment? |
| 18:08.11 | Arcaia | no, just my epic ui -> and the noob that ebay'd his 'prot' warrior |
| 18:08.13 | zenzelezz | is that a PUG or a raid alliance of sorts |
| 18:09.29 | zenzelezz | so many names... been a year and a half since I had player names on, and I recetly disabled NPC names too; screen is so much cleaner now |
| 18:10.12 | Arcaia | PUG |
| 18:10.24 | Arcaia | it was like -> hey pug gruul run. |
| 18:10.26 | Arcaia | need people |
| 18:10.37 | Arcaia | pst and get invited |
| 18:10.57 | zenzelezz | hehe, how did that go? |
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| 18:52.52 | AnduinLothar | What's the max hp/mp digits you guys have seen? |
| 18:52.55 | AnduinLothar | 6? |
| 18:53.05 | AnduinLothar | or are there bosses with > 1 mill |
| 18:53.08 | Thunder_Child | at least 7 |
| 18:53.15 | Thunder_Child | yes |
| 18:53.38 | Cide | bosses with > 10 mil aren't that far away, either |
| 18:53.49 | Cide | lots of bosses have like 7 million hp |
| 18:53.56 | Cide | maybe more |
| 18:56.56 | Thunder_Child | really? cant seem to find any |
| 18:57.13 | Thunder_Child | 'even illidan only has 5.9 million |
| 18:57.35 | Cide | yeah, I might be a bit off |
| 18:57.40 | Cide | you're right |
| 18:58.16 | Thunder_Child | still, with WotLK it is a given |
| 18:58.25 | Thunder_Child | that they will be above 10 mill |
| 18:58.36 | Cide | all of RoS is 8.3 mil |
| 18:58.43 | Cide | 3mil/3mil/2.3mil |
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| 18:59.24 | Cide | so while a single unit doesn't have that much health, it's still a possibility for other encounters |
| 18:59.38 | Shirik|AFK | hell |
| 18:59.44 | Shirik|AFK | even Onyxia has 1 mill health Thunder_Child :) |
| 19:00.03 | Thunder_Child | pff, ony.. |
| 19:00.34 | Shirik | And Ony can be done with 2 people :) |
| 19:01.02 | Shirik | I really want to see someone solo ony though |
| 19:01.32 | Shirik | naturally I'd think it would have to be a pally |
| 19:01.37 | Kaso | Only class that could really do it would be pally and they couldnt dps in stage 2 |
| 19:01.40 | Shirik | druid maybe but it would be really difficult |
| 19:01.41 | Thunder_Child | druid maybe |
| 19:01.50 | Shirik | ha! |
| 19:01.52 | Shirik | Beat BOTH of you |
| 19:01.57 | Thunder_Child | hardly |
| 19:02.05 | Cide | paladins can dps in stage 2 |
| 19:02.08 | Cide | you can hit her from below |
| 19:02.11 | Kalroth | hunter + druid, pet tanking! |
| 19:02.22 | Cide | Kalroth: that's not soloing :P |
| 19:02.22 | Kaso | i thought you couldnt auto-attack her |
| 19:02.23 | Shirik | Kalroth: That's not solo :) |
| 19:02.24 | Thunder_Child | Kalroth, solo ony |
| 19:02.28 | Kaso | or have they changed her since i last did it? |
| 19:02.31 | Cide | ha! |
| 19:02.34 | Shirik | =( |
| 19:02.34 | Cide | Beat BOTH of you |
| 19:02.36 | Shirik | Cide > me |
| 19:02.39 | AnduinLothar | you cant melee her |
| 19:02.41 | Thunder_Child | *sigh* |
| 19:02.42 | Cide | and I stole your lines, too |
| 19:02.43 | AnduinLothar | but you can judge |
| 19:02.44 | Kalroth | err, how will you get heals then? :p |
| 19:02.50 | Shirik | pally? |
| 19:02.51 | Shirik | heals himself |
| 19:02.58 | Kalroth | how will he deal damage? :p |
| 19:03.03 | Shirik | very very slowly |
| 19:03.03 | Cide | auto-attack :P |
| 19:03.07 | AnduinLothar | ret pally |
| 19:03.09 | Shirik | and when I say slow I mean FKING slow |
| 19:03.12 | AnduinLothar | imma go try! |
| 19:03.16 | Kaso | how will he deal damage? "very slowly" |
| 19:03.18 | Thunder_Child | 10 hr ony fight.... |
| 19:03.18 | Cide | AnduinLothar: you'll get rocked :) |
| 19:03.20 | Shirik | if you get aggro, it means you're going to lose 50 dkp |
| 19:03.22 | Kalroth | ret paladins doesn't have mana problems, right?! |
| 19:03.23 | AnduinLothar | yeah... |
| 19:03.26 | Kaso | i hate you Shirik |
| 19:03.28 | Shirik | :D |
| 19:03.31 | Cide | she still crushes iirc |
| 19:03.32 | Cidan | who doesn't? |
| 19:03.36 | Shirik | Cidan! Get this |
| 19:03.40 | Cidan | hm? |
| 19:03.40 | Kalroth | Cide: Yup, she's a boss |
| 19:03.44 | Shirik | After having set my stove on fire while making hamburger helper |
| 19:03.47 | Kalroth | So she'll be your level + 3 |
| 19:03.49 | Shirik | I've decided I'm going to try to make brownies |
| 19:04.01 | Cidan | Nancy made some from scratch a week ago |
| 19:04.02 | AnduinLothar | hamburger helper is for fail |
| 19:04.02 | Thunder_Child | Shirik, you seem to fail as a cook |
| 19:04.05 | Cidan | fudge and all |
| 19:04.06 | Cidan | no mix |
| 19:04.10 | Shirik | .. |
| 19:04.15 | Cidan | just chocolate powder, flour, etc |
| 19:04.15 | Shirik | could you at least give me some credit? |
| 19:04.18 | Thunder_Child | no |
| 19:04.19 | Cidan | Good luck! |
| 19:04.21 | AnduinLothar | that' snot real food, just go get the non-freeze dryed ingredients nd make it yourself |
| 19:04.23 | Thunder_Child | <-- asshole |
| 19:04.23 | Shirik | I've come a long way since my days of only making macaroni and chees |
| 19:04.33 | mikma | Thunder_hole |
| 19:04.39 | Cidan | next time you're up here, we'll cook you a dinner |
| 19:04.51 | Thunder_Child | mikma, now there is an interesting mental image |
| 19:04.51 | Shirik | singapore street noodles? |
| 19:04.58 | Cidan | lol |
| 19:05.03 | Cidan | That place sucked |
| 19:05.09 | Shirik | I liked it :/ |
| 19:05.19 | Cidan | it was meh |
| 19:06.36 | Cidan | going to fix that new char bug, I think I know what it is but I haven't taken a look at it |
| 19:06.42 | Cidan | then work on some more framework stuff |
| 19:06.48 | Cidan | also, going to make a new file, API.lua |
| 19:07.21 | Cidan | and it will have Conspiracy.API, which will be dynamic depending on what game the files are loaded in, ie: future LotRO |
| 19:07.30 | Cidan | so we don't have to change a bunch of CreateFrames, etc |
| 19:08.20 | Shirik | fun stuff |
| 19:08.27 | art3mis | http://www.gothi.ca/Stuff/pooh-screenie.jpg |
| 19:08.47 | Cidan | that |
| 19:08.49 | Cidan | fsckin' |
| 19:08.50 | Cidan | rock |
| 19:08.51 | Cidan | s |
| 19:09.13 | Cidan | totally going to put it into conspiracy |
| 19:09.22 | art3mis | heh |
| 19:09.43 | AnduinLothar | i don't understand the facination with complete makeovers.... do you like change your whole ui every week? |
| 19:09.58 | art3mis | close to |
| 19:10.01 | art3mis | i get bored |
| 19:10.06 | AnduinLothar | do you spend any time playing? |
| 19:10.12 | Cidan | I don't |
| 19:10.15 | Cidan | I don't play WoW |
| 19:10.17 | Cidan | I just code, :/ |
| 19:10.19 | Shirik | heh |
| 19:10.20 | Cidan | I stopped at level 66 |
| 19:10.33 | art3mis | not that much recently, im 70 hate grinding and farming |
| 19:10.40 | art3mis | so............ |
| 19:11.15 | Cidan | art3mis: my girlfriend says you're her hero for that pooh UI |
| 19:11.27 | art3mis | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:11.45 | Thunder_Child | must....kill.....art3mis..... |
| 19:12.06 | Shirik | Cidan: She doesn't even play anymore |
| 19:12.16 | art3mis | just gotta do up the cyCircled hunny pots and im done with this one |
| 19:12.29 | art3mis | Invader Zim is next |
| 19:12.40 | art3mis | you need a Gir theme for Conspiracy too ;P |
| 19:12.50 | Shirik | Gir? |
| 19:12.59 | kergoth | woot, yay zim |
| 19:13.06 | |Jelly| | Gir = win. |
| 19:13.18 | Shirik | >>> strcmp("Gir", "win") |
| 19:13.20 | kergoth | purl: emulate gir |
| 19:13.21 | purl | dooom doooom doom |
| 19:13.26 | kergoth | :) |
| 19:13.26 | Cidan | lol |
| 19:13.28 | Shirik | >>> string.match("Gir", "win") |
| 19:13.28 | Cide | Shirik: nil |
| 19:13.29 | |Jelly| | :) |
| 19:13.30 | Shirik | =/ |
| 19:13.31 | kergoth | purl: emulate gir |
| 19:13.32 | purl | i need tacos! i need tacos or i'll explode. that happens to me sometimes. |
| 19:13.41 | art3mis | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aYPunzC4HY8 |
| 19:13.44 | |Jelly| | amg |
| 19:14.51 | art3mis | shirik watch that |
| 19:14.54 | art3mis | THAT is gir |
| 19:15.02 | art3mis | best sidekick EVAH |
| 19:15.05 | Shirik | I'm a bit busy :/ |
| 19:15.13 | art3mis | you do now! |
| 19:15.16 | art3mis | di di mau! |
| 19:15.26 | zenzelezz | Sidekick Luke Perry > all |
| 19:15.59 | art3mis | Gir then Minimoose then Sidekick Luke Perry |
| 19:17.53 | cncfanatics | purl: emulate kergoth |
| 19:17.53 | purl | ACTION wields a mean spiked metal cluebat |
| 19:18.25 | art3mis | ~emulate zim |
| 19:18.26 | purl | THE DIB! HE'S MISSING! THEY'VE TAKEN HIM AND DRAINED HIM OF HIS _sweet sweet blood candies_ |
| 19:18.35 | art3mis | ~emulate zim |
| 19:18.36 | purl | I am a _perfectly_ normal human worm baby |
| 19:18.45 | Shirik | someone needs to explain to me why the heck I did this |
| 19:18.47 | kergoth | ~emulate dib |
| 19:18.48 | purl | See Gaz, to defeat my enemy I must study my enemy, then become my enemy, then move in with my enemy, then wear my enemies clothes, then... |
| 19:18.49 | Shirik | in the middle of one of my webpages |
| 19:18.54 | art3mis | ~emulate gir |
| 19:18.55 | purl | where's my moose? |
| 19:18.55 | Shirik | <?php /* old 278 */ ?> |
| 19:19.01 | Shirik | for some reason I didn't feel like doing <!-- --> |
| 19:19.29 | art3mis | ~emulate minimoose |
| 19:19.41 | art3mis | *squeek* |
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| 19:31.43 | Cidan | I need a good password manager |
| 19:31.50 | Cidan | something to store massive amounts of passwords |
| 19:31.52 | Cidan | for nix |
| 19:31.58 | Cidan | anyone know of one? |
| 19:32.01 | Thunder_Child | ....wait 1 |
| 19:32.14 | Thunder_Child | yes, just have to find it |
| 19:32.33 | Cidan | is it a linux binary? |
| 19:32.43 | Thunder_Child | let me find it first |
| 19:34.14 | Thunder_Child | kinda |
| 19:34.21 | Thunder_Child | http://keepassx.sourceforge.net/ |
| 19:34.41 | Thunder_Child | the windows one is great |
| 19:34.51 | zenzelezz | how do you read that, keep ass x? |
| 19:35.07 | Thunder_Child | keypass is the origional program |
| 19:35.16 | Thunder_Child | keepass* |
| 19:35.22 | zenzelezz | aha |
| 19:36.20 | Cidan | I don't use windows, so, :P |
| 19:36.33 | Thunder_Child | well this is the linux version |
| 19:36.37 | Cidan | kk |
| 19:36.43 | Cidan | I'll take a look |
| 19:36.50 | Thunder_Child | good, you do that |
| 19:37.39 | Cidan | there's a package for it in ubuntu |
| 19:37.42 | Cidan | wee |
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| 19:38.46 | Thunder_Child | /sigh i need to write an 8-page report by thur.....i so hate writing |
| 19:40.10 | Cidan | oh wow, that's really neat |
| 19:40.15 | Cidan | thanks |
| 19:41.22 | Thunder_Child | welcome |
| 19:43.34 | Shirik | Cidan |
| 19:43.38 | Shirik | can you keep my passwords in there too? |
| 19:44.43 | Cidan | er |
| 19:44.45 | Cidan | lolwut? |
| 19:44.52 | Thunder_Child | heh |
| 19:44.56 | Cidan | Go download it, it's actually amazing |
| 19:45.00 | Cidan | seriously |
| 19:45.01 | Cidan | <3 this |
| 19:45.06 | Cidan | Thunder_Child: Thank you soooo much |
| 19:45.13 | Thunder_Child | welcome to the club :) |
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| 19:45.35 | Shirik | Thunder_Child: What was that thing you showed me a while ago? |
| 19:45.41 | Shirik | I forgot to get one >.> |
| 19:45.45 | Thunder_Child | Shirik, huh? |
| 19:45.51 | Shirik | wattage meter I guess |
| 19:45.57 | Thunder_Child | just make sure to name your file something other than the default one or it's easy to overwrite it |
| 19:46.24 | Thunder_Child | Shirik...uhhh wattage meter != password software |
| 19:47.48 | Shirik | ... |
| 19:47.51 | Shirik | that's why I said "a while ago" |
| 19:48.11 | Thunder_Child | bah, i read was, not what was |
| 19:48.18 | Thunder_Child | ya, need the link again? |
| 19:48.27 | Shirik | if you don't mind |
| 19:49.01 | Thunder_Child | http://scientificsonline.com/product.asp?pn=3054222&sid=jul6watt&cm_mmc=ec-_-jul6watt-_-body-_-3054222&bhcd2=1192995794 |
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| 19:52.57 | art3mis | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rN2VqFPNS8w <-- NSFW language |
| 19:53.58 | [melin] | whats the best way to catch a Who result and prevent who-frame to appear (only when a special var contains a special value) |
| 19:54.06 | Cidan | I wonder |
| 19:54.11 | [melin] | FriendsFrame_OnEvent ? |
| 19:54.12 | Cidan | does KeePass support SQL? |
| 19:55.11 | [melin] | no idea |
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| 19:55.41 | Cidan | anywyas, uh |
| 19:55.45 | [melin] | Cidan: http://tylermuth.wordpress.com/2007/10/14/sqlplus-tricks/ |
| 19:56.00 | Cidan | take a look at CensusPlus |
| 19:56.04 | Cidan | and see how it does it |
| 19:56.10 | [melin] | true |
| 19:56.44 | Cidan | I use linux, link won't work, :P |
| 19:56.46 | Cidan | hmm, brb |
| 20:02.29 | Cidan | Thunder_Child: Seriously, I owe you a beer or something |
| 20:02.44 | Thunder_Child | free program, free advice |
| 20:02.48 | Thunder_Child | it's all good |
| 20:03.04 | Shirik | so apparently IE has this new feature where if you try to download firefox, it locks up |
| 20:03.10 | Cidan | Yeah |
| 20:03.13 | Cidan | new in 7.0 |
| 20:03.16 | Shirik | oh awesome |
| 20:03.27 | Cidan | Yeah, been asking for that feature for a while. |
| 20:03.30 | Cidan | acutally |
| 20:03.32 | Shirik | "Internet Explorer was closed: Data Execution Prevention has shut down Internet Explorer to help protect your computer" |
| 20:04.03 | Cidan | I installed Windows 98 a while ago right? So I start up IE, but I can't remember how to get it to not have me sign up for MSN. |
| 20:04.18 | Cidan | It won't let me use IE until I sign up for MSN. |
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| 20:11.00 | Cidan | man |
| 20:11.04 | Cidan | I <3 Desktop cube |
| 20:11.05 | Cidan | lol |
| 20:12.29 | art3mis | cidan you lied to me! |
| 20:12.31 | art3mis | heh |
| 20:12.35 | Cidan | ? |
| 20:12.40 | art3mis | can't play wow on the xpress1100 |
| 20:12.49 | Cidan | sure... you can? |
| 20:13.04 | art3mis | nupe chokes in the test on the opengl parts |
| 20:13.10 | art3mis | and cant enable hardware |
| 20:13.14 | art3mis | try it |
| 20:13.14 | Cidan | via wine? |
| 20:13.18 | Cidan | or windows? |
| 20:13.29 | Cidan | I *know* it works in windows, I did a better part of Conspiracy in it |
| 20:13.42 | art3mis | in nix monkey face |
| 20:13.45 | Cidan | oh |
| 20:13.50 | Cidan | haven't tried it in nix |
| 20:13.54 | Cidan | I don't think, anyways |
| 20:13.55 | art3mis | yeah dont bother ;P |
| 20:14.15 | Cidan | one thing that bothers me about WoW in nix |
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| 20:14.20 | Cidan | very slight sound/video delay |
| 20:14.24 | Cidan | it's veerrrry slight |
| 20:14.25 | Cidan | but it's there |
| 20:14.37 | Shirik | are you sure that's not just the delay in your brain's processing time? |
| 20:14.44 | Shirik | =) |
| 20:14.44 | art3mis | the 200m chipset doesnt have a full 3d support yet |
| 20:14.45 | Cidan | No fuck face |
| 20:14.47 | Cidan | it isn't. |
| 20:14.55 | Cidan | That's a shame. |
| 20:14.55 | art3mis | does compiz stuff decent enough |
| 20:15.00 | Cidan | Yeha it does |
| 20:15.02 | art3mis | but its a driver thing |
| 20:15.07 | Cidan | I was pleased with how fast it ran |
| 20:15.22 | art3mis | im hoping with all the data that amd has been releaseing that ati drivers get bounds better |
| 20:15.25 | art3mis | yeah |
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| 20:15.37 | art3mis | compiz > beryl |
| 20:16.09 | Cidan | not alwyas |
| 20:16.13 | art3mis | yes always |
| 20:16.16 | art3mis | heh |
| 20:17.05 | [melin] | bah! |
| 20:17.23 | [melin] | I cant find how to trigger all /who results.. just the ones that displays in the chatframe |
| 20:17.25 | bleeter | compiz-fusion > (compiz|beryl) |
| 20:17.59 | art3mis | hehe seeing as how beryl came from compiz and then merged back in |
| 20:18.03 | Cidan | s/|/||/ |
| 20:18.03 | bleeter | art3mis: the radeonhd guys are in PLL hell atm ;) |
| 20:18.07 | art3mis | my statement is still better ;P |
| 20:18.13 | art3mis | o i dont doubt it |
| 20:19.08 | bleeter | but I believe they've managed to get 2d un-accel happening on Macs in the past few days :) |
| 20:21.20 | Cidan | should I use CalDAV or WebDAV? |
| 20:22.44 | Cidan | nm dumb question |
| 20:25.53 | [melin] | bah.. stupid game |
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| 20:36.10 | [melin] | someone? anyone? best way to catch all who results? :D |
| 20:36.40 | Cidan | not a clue |
| 20:36.45 | Cidan | not a part of the API I work with |
| 20:37.02 | [melin] | me neither normally.. |
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| 20:47.33 | Shirik|Ecole | [melin]: I'm not sure what kind of question you're trying to ask |
| 20:47.37 | Shirik|Ecole | but um |
| 20:47.55 | Shirik|Ecole | there's only one pair of functions you use for a who request |
| 20:47.58 | [melin] | well.. I want a function to trigger when I recieve a result from a Who |
| 20:48.11 | Shirik|Ecole | did your addon trigger the who request? |
| 20:48.30 | [melin] | well.. CHAT_MSG_SYSTEM triggers on a lot more than just /who's |
| 20:48.43 | Shirik|Ecole | you didn't answer the question |
| 20:48.45 | [melin] | and yes - Im using SendWho |
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| 20:50.22 | Thunder_Child | anyone know of a program that if you have 2 windows OS's installed and you install a program it will write to both registries? |
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| 20:50.34 | Thunder_Child | and if not, someone make it |
| 20:51.30 | zenzelezz | not sure you can do that |
| 20:52.11 | Shirik|Ecole | sorry [melin] I got distracted |
| 20:52.13 | Shirik|Ecole | anyway, this is what you want |
| 20:52.22 | Thunder_Child | why not? afaik the reg hive is somewhere on your HDD |
| 20:52.24 | Shirik|Ecole | http://wowwiki.com/API_SetWhoToUI |
| 20:53.06 | zenzelezz | the-golem: if I recall correctly it spans a few different files depending on the key, and I'm not sure if it's easy to muck around with the files in a correct manner. I've never tried of course |
| 20:53.10 | [melin] | so.. can I set it to 1 and never get the results in the chatframe again? |
| 20:53.14 | zenzelezz | *thunder_child... I fail |
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| 20:54.26 | [melin] | Shirik any idea of what event to look for? |
| 20:55.01 | [melin] | nvm.. :P "WHO_LIST_UPDATE" =) |
| 20:55.09 | Shirik|Ecole | =) |
| 20:55.14 | Shirik|Ecole | sorry I'm a little busy :P |
| 20:55.33 | Thunder_Child | zenzelezz, well figure it out already |
| 20:55.35 | Shirik|Ecole | and yes that's correct |
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| 20:58.42 | Thunder_Child | wow 2K+ bouns honor for the AV daily |
| 20:59.20 | Thunder_Child | bonus* |
| 20:59.32 | [melin] | hmm.. just realized.. scanning for lvl 1's every minute or so wont work so well.. since they log in and starts spamming instantly |
| 21:00.06 | [melin] | and spam the /who every second seems a bit.. well.. its like begging for a disconnection |
| 21:00.29 | Shirik|Ecole | you won't get disconnected |
| 21:00.30 | Shirik|Ecole | it'll just fail |
| 21:00.39 | Shirik|Ecole | however I'd be pissed that I can't do a manual /who |
| 21:00.45 | Shirik|Ecole | because you're eating all my /who time |
| 21:00.52 | [melin] | =) |
| 21:00.57 | Shirik|Ecole | so, the way I'd do it |
| 21:01.05 | Shirik|Ecole | hrm |
| 21:01.17 | Shirik|Ecole | no I guess you'd really have to do it that way |
| 21:01.26 | Shirik|Ecole | since you're trying to get local chat too, etc. |
| 21:01.33 | [melin] | I could try to just scan the chat channels for messages and make an extensive filter .. |
| 21:02.08 | [melin] | but they keep getting through those by just changing their messages.. this system I was hoping for would force them to level before spamming |
| 21:02.15 | [melin] | bleeter - download the game again |
| 21:03.02 | [melin] | bleeter wont work |
| 21:03.03 | Cidan | I'm tellin you |
| 21:03.10 | Cidan | [melin]: Look at CensusPlus |
| 21:03.17 | Cidan | it does it well |
| 21:03.19 | [melin] | you have an old version of the test game - remove it and download again |
| 21:03.30 | [melin] | Cidan Im not talking about the /who result now |
| 21:03.35 | Cidan | oh |
| 21:03.46 | [melin] | Cidan here's what Im trying to do - a failsafe ignore-spammers addon |
| 21:03.46 | Cidan | CensusPlus spaces /who out |
| 21:04.04 | [melin] | the whoresult part is sorted.. but I think it wont work as I planned |
| 21:04.32 | [melin] | bleeter except that ptr dont have a repair? |
| 21:04.36 | [melin] | (atleast not mine) |
| 21:05.02 | bleeter | there is NO harm in running Repair.exe across the main game whilst grabbing the PTR patch again |
| 21:05.21 | [melin] | Id have to scan the /who every 2-3 seconds to get all spammers.. or they would easily get missed by just logging in between the scans |
| 21:06.12 | [melin] | so.. I can: either scan every 30 seconds no matter where I am in the game or do it the old fashioned way, filter the messages.. |
| 21:07.46 | [melin] | going for the scan method.. every 30 seconds should do it.. |
| 21:07.55 | [melin] | and no scan if FriendFrame is already up |
| 21:08.00 | Kaso | you cant ever scan ever 2-3 seconds, the cap is one /who per 6 seconds |
| 21:08.09 | Kaso | well couldn't |
| 21:08.22 | [melin] | I know.. I was just making a point |
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| 21:31.20 | Kaydeethree | [17:04:03] <[melin]> the whoresult part is sorted.. but I think it wont work as I planned |
| 21:31.23 | Kaydeethree | I so very misread that |
| 21:33.39 | [melin] | hehe |
| 21:33.46 | [melin] | you play too much =) |
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| 21:51.12 | dreamss | updated drivers and wow cant initize 3d? |
| 21:51.13 | dreamss | lame |
| 21:51.13 | art3mis | http://www.gothi.ca/Stuff/cy-pooh.jpg <-- updated, does this look cleaner? |
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| 21:51.53 | JoshBorke | 4034 not found! |
| 21:51.59 | Thunder_Child | it looks like poo......... |
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| 21:53.25 | Thunder_Child | s/poo/pooh/ |
| 21:55.39 | art3mis | http://www.gothi.ca/Stuff/pooh-ui.jpg |
| 21:55.43 | art3mis | ;) |
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| 21:58.09 | AnduinLothar | word's header numbering needs to diaf |
| 21:59.42 | JoshBorke | tigger! |
| 22:00.44 | AnduinLothar | i make a sub section use header 2, but instead of continuing number to 2.1 it says 1.1.... |
| 22:01.15 | Thunder_Child | yay, finaly got test chamber 18: advanced done |
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| 22:03.56 | Mr_Rabies2 | it took me a while, tc |
| 22:04.04 | Mr_Rabies2 | i ended up chucking my body at the turrets at mach 5 |
| 22:04.07 | Mr_Rabies2 | to take them out |
| 22:04.38 | Mr_Rabies2 | because physics objects absorb inertia like you wouldn't believe |
| 22:04.52 | Mr_Rabies2 | especially ones that break |
| 22:04.57 | Mr_Rabies2 | like crates :p |
| 22:05.20 | JoshBorke | portal? |
| 22:05.49 | art3mis | thats my new UI upload to wowi ;P |
| 22:05.56 | art3mis | ditto for the cycircled skin |
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| 22:07.37 | art3mis | hi clad! |
| 22:07.44 | cladhaire | hi |
| 22:07.53 | art3mis | you should move to whatver building gives you c64 inyer hostname ;P |
| 22:08.06 | Thunder_Child | Mr_Rabies2, same |
| 22:08.14 | Thunder_Child | although i am have trouble with 17 |
| 22:08.21 | [melin] | anyway to get SendWho to only search for guildless people? I tried adding g=\"\" |
| 22:11.29 | [melin] | bah.. giving up.. too tired for this shit =) |
| 22:11.31 | art3mis | okay winnie the pooh UI is done |
| 22:11.43 | art3mis | onto the Glory of the Irken Race! |
| 22:11.46 | [melin] | show screen =) |
| 22:11.53 | art3mis | http://www.gothi.ca/Stuff/pooh-ui.jpg |
| 22:12.19 | [melin] | kick ass =) |
| 22:12.31 | art3mis | wish i knew why autobar suddently stopped cycircled skinning though |
| 22:12.42 | [melin] | did you attach tiggr to the minimap? |
| 22:13.14 | art3mis | sorta |
| 22:13.21 | art3mis | more the minimap to him ;P |
| 22:13.23 | [melin] | as in.. if I start moving the map - will he follow= |
| 22:13.27 | [melin] | =) |
| 22:13.37 | art3mis | nope, just need to unlock the minimap eepanel |
| 22:13.51 | art3mis | thers a big ehart under the map ;P |
| 22:13.53 | art3mis | heart |
| 22:14.07 | [melin] | Im working on a druid UI (well.. all classes when Im done) and thought of putting leaves and shit around the minimap, playerframe etc |
| 22:14.37 | art3mis | doing it the real theme way? |
| 22:14.42 | art3mis | as in editting the blps? |
| 22:14.42 | [melin] | just wanna tie them to those frames, but in the background.. so if you'd do PlayerFrame:Hide() the leafs would hide aswell |
| 22:14.55 | [melin] | doing my own tga's and adding |
| 22:15.02 | [melin] | so it'll be an addon |
| 22:15.07 | art3mis | you can edit the blps directly so that it works that way OR use the scripting for eepanels |
| 22:15.29 | art3mis | basically if the character frame is shown eepals psrings up |
| 22:15.31 | [melin] | will make my own addon.. so no eepanels and no blp editing |
| 22:15.43 | art3mis | ooo |
| 22:15.50 | art3mis | i'll want that when yer done ;P |
| 22:16.32 | art3mis | http://www.gothi.ca/Stuff/hellokitty-ui.jpg i did blp editting to get what i wanted |
| 22:16.38 | [melin] | it's supposed to show the UI according to yer class when Im all done.. so logging a druid you'll have leafs and shit in the UI.. loading a warrior.. well.. dont know what Im gonna put there yet |
| 22:16.53 | [melin] | HOLY! IM BLIND!! WTF IS THAT!? |
| 22:17.01 | [melin] | its.. pink? |
| 22:17.20 | [melin] | but I love the minimap! |
| 22:17.24 | art3mis | heh |
| 22:17.26 | art3mis | thats HKUI |
| 22:17.33 | [melin] | wait.. all buttons are small kittys? |
| 22:17.42 | art3mis | some say the most evil thing ever done to WoW ;P |
| 22:17.44 | art3mis | yup |
| 22:17.53 | [melin] | nice done |
| 22:17.53 | art3mis | http://www.gothi.ca/Stuff/cycircled-art.jpg |
| 22:17.58 | [melin] | just not my colors =) |
| 22:17.59 | art3mis | alestane did that art |
| 22:18.40 | [melin] | looks nice |
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| 22:18.54 | art3mis | yeah hes way better at graphics than i am |
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| 22:22.24 | [melin] | problem is.. I only have ideas for the druid UI.. and there are 8 more classes D: |
| 22:22.26 | [melin] | :D |
| 22:24.38 | Thunder_Child | art3mis, you should make the HKUI backgrounds transparent |
| 22:24.42 | Thunder_Child | slightly |
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| 22:28.07 | art3mis | i think i did in the newer versions |
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| 22:28.20 | art3mis | eepanels didnt have transperancy on images when i took that |
| 22:28.31 | Thunder_Child | ah |
| 22:29.05 | Thunder_Child | plus, you should have the artowrk converted in illustrator to vector graphics so they can be scaled |
| 22:29.18 | art3mis | they do scale |
| 22:29.24 | art3mis | via the frame |
| 22:29.35 | art3mis | and whatever screen res you use |
| 22:29.49 | Thunder_Child | but it's a raster based image which means it gets pixelated |
| 22:29.59 | art3mis | only if it gets SUPER huge |
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| 22:30.05 | [melin] | does WoW support vector? |
| 22:30.07 | art3mis | i dont have illustrator |
| 22:30.10 | Thunder_Child | or at least the face around the minimap does |
| 22:30.15 | art3mis | oh yeah |
| 22:30.23 | art3mis | that was something i meant to replace and never did |
| 22:30.31 | art3mis | i found a better way to scale it |
| 22:30.34 | Thunder_Child | ya, thats their primary art [melin] |
| 22:30.40 | art3mis | that was more or elss a quick fix that i never got back to |
| 22:31.07 | [melin] | oh |
| 22:31.21 | [melin] | hmm.. tga's.. 32 or 16 bits? |
| 22:31.34 | art3mis | 24 |
| 22:31.48 | art3mis | bpp |
| 22:32.01 | art3mis | at least the icons are |
| 22:32.11 | art3mis | although im fairly sure the rest of my stuff is saved that format as well |
| 22:33.12 | [melin] | alright |
| 22:36.06 | Shirik|Ecole | 32 |
| 22:36.13 | Shirik|Ecole | 8 each for RGBA |
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| 22:37.12 | art3mis | http://i169.photobucket.com/albums/u210/girgonewyld/gir.jpg |
| 22:37.29 | Shirik|Ecole | wtf is that |
| 22:37.31 | dreamss | lame wow wont work with the newest omega drivers |
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| 22:39.49 | [melin] | crap.. my tga is just shown as a huge green square :( |
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| 22:42.46 | Shirik|Ecole | that means you didn't save it right |
| 22:42.52 | Shirik|Ecole | did you do 32 bit? |
| 22:42.59 | Shirik|Ecole | and what are the dimensions? |
| 22:43.08 | art3mis | melin |
| 22:43.13 | art3mis | what are you viewing it in? |
| 22:43.14 | Shirik|Ecole | yes, @ [melin] |
| 22:43.20 | [melin] | Im using photoshop |
| 22:43.27 | art3mis | irfran doesnt display tga's right |
| 22:43.29 | Shirik|Ecole | What is the bit depth and dimensions? |
| 22:43.36 | art3mis | least of all ones taht have an alpha level |
| 22:43.58 | [melin] | 24 and 300x200 |
| 22:44.01 | Shirik|Ecole | no |
| 22:44.03 | Shirik|Ecole | you can't do 300x200 |
| 22:44.14 | Shirik|Ecole | Dimensions need to be a power of 2 |
| 22:44.15 | [melin] | oh? |
| 22:44.17 | [melin] | ah |
| 22:45.07 | [melin] | do I have to restart WoW in order to see changes done to the tga? |
| 22:45.14 | Shirik|Ecole | I believe so |
| 22:45.55 | [melin] | nope.. worked anyway =) |
| 22:46.05 | Shirik|Ecole | ah ok |
| 22:46.47 | [melin] | final question then - what can I use for graphic objects except buttons? (since buttons prevents move-camera-with-mouse actions) |
| 22:48.37 | JoshBorke | any frame? |
| 22:48.39 | JoshBorke | a texture? |
| 22:49.06 | [melin] | just a piece of texture yea |
| 22:49.18 | [melin] | its not gonna do anything except sit there and look pretty |
| 22:50.35 | JoshBorke | local t = UIParent:CreateTexture(<stuff>) t:SetPoint(<stuff>) t:Show() |
| 22:51.16 | [melin] | and then SetTexture(path) etc? |
| 22:52.22 | Cide- | http://kotaku.com/gaming/cake/the-weighted-companion-cube-cake-313286.php |
| 22:52.32 | JoshBorke | something like that, yea |
| 22:53.17 | bleeter | WTB: Someone who knows stuff about re-programming ACPI |
| 22:55.03 | [melin] | <stuff> is anything I reckon? the name I want for that particular texture? |
| 22:55.28 | JoshBorke | i dunno what the correct stuff for it is off the top of my head |
| 22:55.32 | JoshBorke | i'd have to look on wowwiki.com |
| 22:55.51 | [melin] | =) I can do that =) |
| 22:59.19 | art3mis | using eepanels2 you can make the art click through no probs |
| 23:00.23 | [melin] | thats the thing.. I want it standalone =) |
| 23:00.41 | art3mis | why? |
| 23:00.49 | art3mis | eepanels2 is awesomely well done ;P |
| 23:00.56 | art3mis | why do extra work if there's no need |
| 23:01.03 | [melin] | cause its fun =) |
| 23:01.23 | [melin] | and I dont learn anything if I use other peoples solutions |
| 23:01.34 | art3mis | laugh |
| 23:01.35 | [melin] | Ive made several addons.. one raid-dkp addon and some minor stuff |
| 23:01.45 | art3mis | i suppose there is that |
| 23:02.04 | Thunder_Child | learning is good, but learning with a purpase is better |
| 23:02.14 | art3mis | alright i'll stop mentioned that eepanels2 does everything you want including the autoscripting to show texture boxes when you trigger certain events ;P |
| 23:02.36 | Kaso | Cide, he forgot garnishes such as Fish shaped candies. Fish shaped dirt. Fish shaped ethyl benzene. and Candy coated peanut butter pieces. Shaped like fish ! |
| 23:02.43 | [melin] | Im a programmer.. I always wanna learn and get better at what I do |
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| 23:03.19 | art3mis | its tricky to rock around to rock around thats right right on time it's trickyyyyyyyyy |
| 23:03.33 | Thunder_Child | and thats good, but recreating the wheel just to make the wheel isnt as good as making a better wheel |
| 23:05.00 | [melin] | well.. the reason I wont use other systems is that I want mine here to be completely standalone |
| 23:05.15 | Shirik|Ecole | Cide: Awesome |
| 23:06.10 | art3mis | so basically you wanna create dart |
| 23:06.20 | art3mis | even though dart and eepanels exists |
| 23:06.26 | art3mis | and are as standlaone as you're gonna get |
| 23:06.34 | art3mis | shrug |
| 23:06.36 | art3mis | wierdo |
| 23:06.52 | [melin] | Im a swede.. what can I say? |
| 23:07.09 | Shirik|Ecole | so is Cide :) |
| 23:07.11 | Shirik|Ecole | I think |
| 23:07.16 | Shirik|Ecole | or maybe that's just his name |
| 23:07.17 | art3mis | laugh |
| 23:07.30 | art3mis | shirik is a cheese eatting surrender monkey |
| 23:07.35 | Shirik|Ecole | yup |
| 23:07.52 | Cide | Shirik|Ecole: yep |
| 23:07.52 | JoshBorke | we all have our flaws ;-) |
| 23:07.59 | art3mis | yu real french or immigrated french? |
| 23:08.20 | art3mis | JoshBorke: i have no flaws ;P |
| 23:08.31 | art3mis | unless you count that "he's an asshole" thing as a flaw |
| 23:12.19 | [melin] | bah I need a new monitor.. mine is god damn dark.. cant see a thing in windowed mode |
| 23:12.55 | [melin] | well.. got the leafs and shit placed out - tomorrow Im gonna tune the graphics :P |
| 23:13.09 | [melin] | means I will sit at job with a piece of paper and pen and draw for 8 hours |
| 23:13.34 | Thunder_Child | art3mis, being an asshole is never a flaw, it's a design enhancement |
| 23:15.12 | art3mis | ahh okay |
| 23:17.51 | Shirik|Ecole | hmm |
| 23:17.57 | Shirik|Ecole | I need to stop studying for this operating systems test |
| 23:18.12 | Shirik|Ecole | I saw [melin] talking about monitors and I was immediately thinking of synchronization and locks >.> |
| 23:21.09 | art3mis | i know warlocks are OP but why would you think abuot them? |
| 23:21.52 | art3mis | i think i need to get a tablet.. what woud let me create a lot better than just editting existing cuz i cant draw with a mouse |
| 23:22.16 | [melin] | hmm.. if I set them to UIParent - they go ontop of other stuff.. if I put them on WorldFrame they end up in the back - but aint following UI Scale :( |
| 23:22.16 | Thunder_Child | my cousin just a got a wacom |
| 23:22.30 | art3mis | one of my clients has a REALLY nice wacom |
| 23:22.34 | Thunder_Child | i played a bit with it yesterday, good stuff |
| 23:22.49 | art3mis | yeah |
| 23:23.01 | art3mis | my landlord has one too cept he sues it as a mouse |
| 23:23.08 | art3mis | uses as well that is |
| 23:24.00 | Shirik|Ecole | [melin]: That's because UI Scale is set by setting UIParent's scale |
| 23:24.12 | Shirik|Ecole | change your frame's strata or level if you want it behind things |
| 23:24.23 | [melin] | Ive set them to Background (level) |
| 23:24.31 | Shirik|Ecole | parent has zero to do with any of that stuff aside from resolving conflicts at the same level |
| 23:24.34 | [melin] | still appearing over other items - like the minimap |
| 23:24.58 | art3mis | use level |
| 23:25.08 | art3mis | if you get rico's minimap you can adjust it's elvel as well |
| 23:25.11 | art3mis | level |
| 23:25.13 | Shirik|Ecole | uh |
| 23:25.17 | Shirik|Ecole | [melin]? |
| 23:25.21 | Shirik|Ecole | Background is a strata |
| 23:25.36 | [melin] | its my first time with textures :D so Im a noob here |
| 23:25.57 | Shirik|Ecole | level is a number |
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| 23:26.08 | Shirik|Ecole | it is likely that the minimap is also in background |
| 23:26.11 | Shirik|Ecole | so pull down your frame level |
| 23:26.16 | Thunder_Child | damn, world server down |
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| 23:28.40 | [melin] | http://img340.imageshack.us/img340/7393/wowscrnshot102207012554uv8.jpg well.. a first tryout - will work more on the crap tomorrow - and make it a bit better :D just spam a brush over the alpha isnt quite what I want :P |
| 23:30.16 | [melin] | sleep |
| 23:32.16 | Arcaia | http://www.randomfew.net/random.public/uiss/WoWScrnShot_102107_133441.jpg =P |
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| 23:39.17 | Cidan | oh shit |
| 23:39.20 | Cidan | it's fridgid |
| 23:39.24 | Cidan | haha |
| 23:39.24 | Cidan | oh wow |
| 23:39.31 | fridgid | sup? |
| 23:39.37 | fridgid | oh man |
| 23:39.37 | Cidan | Nancy says hi |
| 23:39.44 | fridgid | haha sup man how you been |
| 23:39.47 | Cidan | good, good |
| 23:39.48 | fridgid | you prob won't believe this and all |
| 23:39.50 | fridgid | but umm |
| 23:39.54 | Cidan | Veni? |
| 23:39.55 | fridgid | are you still doing rdx dev? |
| 23:39.55 | Cidan | I know |
| 23:40.04 | fridgid | www.openrdx.com |
| 23:40.05 | fridgid | >_< |
| 23:40.07 | Cidan | tsk |
| 23:40.12 | Cidan | www.conspiracy-ui.com |
| 23:40.15 | Cidan | even better. |
| 23:40.19 | fridgid | hah! |
| 23:40.28 | Cidan | Shirik and I are doing a total re-writ |
| 23:40.29 | Cidan | e |
| 23:40.33 | Cidan | Ground-uo |
| 23:40.44 | Cidan | er, ground-up |
| 23:40.52 | fridgid | rdx6 is working fine |
| 23:41.02 | fridgid | its gonna be opensource though |
| 23:41.07 | Cidan | I know. |
| 23:41.09 | fridgid | o |
| 23:41.17 | fridgid | #RDX-dev imo xD |
| 23:41.42 | fridgid | well you two are both welcomed to join us, though i suspect you will decline xD |
| 23:41.47 | Cidan | Indeed. |
| 23:42.02 | Thunder_Child | so odd http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YIDkyjKANB8&mode=related&search= |
| 23:42.03 | Cidan | We're taking a bit of a different route with Conspiracy, it's going to be a bit more portable. |
| 23:42.14 | fridgid | portable how? |
| 23:42.15 | Cidan | When we're done, you'll be able to port Conspiracy to other games even. |
| 23:42.15 | JoshBorke | i like pie |
| 23:42.21 | Cidan | With little fuss |
| 23:42.28 | Cidan | bbl though, going to watch Transformers |
| 23:42.31 | fridgid | other games!? |
| 23:42.38 | fridgid | aight later man |
| 23:42.43 | fridgid | tell nancy i said hi back |
| 23:43.16 | Shirik|Ecole | Sure, RDX is working fine |
| 23:43.22 | Shirik|Ecole | doesn't mean it can't be improved |
| 23:43.40 | Cidan | Shirik: fridgid used to live local |
| 23:43.50 | Shirik|Ecole | did he |
| 23:43.56 | fridgid | live local? |
| 23:44.11 | fridgid | oh nm |
| 23:44.16 | Cidan | fridgid: We moved to Nova |
| 23:44.22 | fridgid | shirik is at vt as well? |
| 23:44.23 | Cidan | we're just outside DC now |
| 23:44.29 | fridgid | you two both graduate? |
| 23:44.30 | Cidan | no, Shirik is from NOVA |
| 23:44.33 | fridgid | gross. |
| 23:44.37 | Cidan | no, she did, I'm in school atm |
| 23:44.37 | fridgid | :P |
| 23:44.44 | Cidan | now seriously, bbl |
| 23:44.47 | fridgid | ah cool |
| 23:44.48 | fridgid | lol |
| 23:45.14 | Shirik|Ecole | I go to ERAU |
| 23:45.20 | Shirik|Ecole | screw VT, it's where the stupid people go |
| 23:45.31 | fridgid | (and then drop out) |
| 23:45.31 | Shirik|Ecole | <3 Cidan |
| 23:45.34 | fridgid | aka me |
| 23:45.35 | fridgid | winnar. |
| 23:46.18 | Intangir | hey guys |
| 23:46.24 | Intangir | is anyone else unable to connect to test servers? |
| 23:46.31 | Intangir | says its unable to validate my game version or something |
| 23:46.41 | fridgid | you need to redownload the test client |
| 23:46.45 | Intangir | k |
| 23:47.03 | fridgid | unless you were able to get on it before (like within the last week) |
| 23:47.07 | fridgid | then you prob have a bigger issue |
| 23:47.18 | Intangir | i got on it about a week ago at max |
| 23:47.20 | fridgid | otherwise its just been a few patches since you got on the ptr |
| 23:47.21 | Intangir | maybe less than a week |
| 23:47.27 | Intangir | infact i think i was on tuesday or wednesday |
| 23:47.38 | fridgid | i dunno i redownloaded when it said that and it fixed my client |
| 23:47.39 | fridgid | who knows |
| 23:54.00 | dreamss | http://www.pcworld.com/article/id,138717-c,copyright/article.html |
| 23:59.09 | art3mis | http://www.gothi.ca/Stuff/zim-mini.jpg |
| 23:59.27 | art3mis | gotta clean it up a bit but thats my new theme pack ;) |
