| 00:01.26 | Thunder_Child | heh, for Cairenn, the afk part is merely a polite suggestion |
| 00:02.19 | Esamynn | haha |
| 00:03.35 | Cidan | right well |
| 00:03.44 | Cidan | the next update to LotRO has player housing |
| 00:03.46 | Cidan | this |
| 00:03.49 | Cidan | makes me excited |
| 00:04.35 | Thunder_Child | omg, a fake house, i MUST have one.... |
| 00:04.42 | Esamynn | the next update to wow had guild banks, that makes ME excited :) |
| 00:05.44 | buu | NOT INTERESTED. |
| 00:05.55 | buu | I demand the addition that allows capturing player's skulls. |
| 00:06.00 | Esamynn | ~gag buu |
| 00:06.00 | purl | ACTION takes away the voice of buu and, as an additional precaution, sews buu's mouth shut permanently... |
| 00:07.54 | Thunder_Child | i think they should have a series of hardcore pvp servers where if you kill someone you get to take one equiped item |
| 00:09.25 | Cidan | http://lotro.turbine.com/article/427 |
| 00:09.27 | buu | Well, maybe. |
| 00:09.43 | foxlit | Thunder_Child: you sure there's enough of people wanting that to even fill half a zone? |
| 00:09.44 | buu | Thunder_Child: Real hardcore servers, one death per server. |
| 00:10.03 | buu | Er, character. |
| 00:10.10 | Cidan | ooo |
| 00:10.12 | Cidan | GUILD housing |
| 00:10.14 | Cidan | that rocks |
| 00:10.15 | Cidan | so hard. |
| 00:10.17 | buu | .. why? |
| 00:10.24 | buu | What exactly does that do for you? |
| 00:10.32 | Lunessa | And they shall pave the road to glory with the skulls of fallen foes. |
| 00:10.43 | buu | Lunessa: See, now that's what I'm talking about. |
| 00:11.09 | Lunessa | And... You and about 2,000 other tribes fans would be all that played there. |
| 00:11.25 | buu | Heh. |
| 00:11.35 | buu | I'm not actually sure I'd actually play there. But it is an interesting idea. |
| 00:12.00 | Lunessa | Yeah, just remember your guild mates would all be "Boom! Headshot!" guys |
| 00:14.48 | Corrodias | holy crap |
| 00:14.52 | Corrodias | i am totally jacked on caffeine now |
| 00:15.36 | buu | Lunessa: Blizzard should man up and make city bosses drop lewt and players give experience. |
| 00:15.53 | Lunessa | buu: fuck no |
| 00:15.58 | buu | YES. |
| 00:16.07 | Corrodias | i was wondering why i was fumbling with my wallet and feeling so excited when trying to buy a bottle of vodka until i remembered that second cup of coffee |
| 00:17.08 | Corrodias | this would be my second and third cup in 6 months. woot. |
| 00:36.22 | Cidan | wowi |
| 00:36.24 | Cidan | I must ask you |
| 00:36.26 | Cidan | What is love? |
| 00:36.54 | JoshBorke | what's love got to do |
| 00:36.59 | JoshBorke | got to do with it? |
| 00:41.02 | Cidan | blech, these files need to xfer already |
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| 00:49.12 | Lunessa | http://www.wired.com/science/discoveries/news/2007/10/nano_radio |
| 00:52.58 | Cidan | so long, windows |
| 00:53.02 | Cidan | bbl |
| 01:00.39 | Thunder_Child | (17:52:58) (Cidan) so long, windows |
| 01:00.39 | Thunder_Child | (17:53:03) (Cidan) bbl |
| 01:00.41 | Thunder_Child | hahaha |
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| 01:38.26 | Cidan | there |
| 01:38.30 | sysrage | http://i23.tinypic.com/sbsp5l.gif |
| 01:38.32 | Cidan | no more windows, yay. |
| 01:38.34 | sysrage | bah. wrong channel. sorry |
| 01:38.58 | Thunder_Child | (17:52:58) (Cidan) so long, windows |
| 01:38.58 | Thunder_Child | (17:53:03) (Cidan) bbl |
| 01:39.02 | Thunder_Child | but you will be back |
| 01:39.08 | Cidan | I doubt it |
| 01:39.14 | Thunder_Child | you said so |
| 01:39.22 | Cidan | oh |
| 01:39.23 | Cidan | lol |
| 01:39.35 | Thunder_Child | *sigh* took you long enough |
| 01:39.48 | Cidan | getting all my crap off the external drive and back onto my new /home |
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| 01:47.47 | Wobwork | omg |
| 01:47.48 | Wobwork | win |
| 01:47.49 | Wobwork | http://www.usatoday.com/news/politics/election2008/2007-10-17-colbert-president_N.htm |
| 01:47.56 | Wobwork | If I were american, I'd so vote for him |
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| 01:49.05 | Wobwork | Colbert wrote: "I am not ready to announce yet — even though it's clear that the voters are desperate for a white, male, middle-aged, Jesus-trumpeting alternative." |
| 01:49.07 | Thunder_Child | didny you see the move like that |
| 01:49.13 | Thunder_Child | didnt* |
| 01:49.25 | Thunder_Child | so not a good idea |
| 01:50.20 | Wobwork | (10:34:27 AM) Cidan: What is love? |
| 01:50.28 | Wobwork | Baby don't hurt me... don't hurt me... no more? |
| 01:52.02 | Cidan | Wobwork: :D |
| 01:57.38 | Cidan | bleh, slow ass external USB drive |
| 01:57.43 | Cidan | 45 min remaining |
| 01:57.50 | Thunder_Child | ~lart Wobwork |
| 01:57.50 | purl | slaps Wobwork upside the head with a wet fish |
| 01:57.51 | Cidan | hmm, may as well work on making the OS pretty |
| 01:59.13 | Thunder_Child | "Today Western Digital announced that it has achieved 520 Gb/in2 areal density in an actual demonstration using its own perpendicular magnetic recording (PMR)/tunneling magneto-resistive (TuMR) head technology. For those of you who are counting, that makes it the highest density ever reached using continuous media. A density of this magnitude produces a 3.5-inch hard drive storing 640 GB-per-platter and single hard drive ca |
| 01:59.48 | Esamynn | single hard drive ca...... |
| 02:00.07 | Thunder_Child | hmm? |
| 02:00.33 | Esamynn | you cut off |
| 02:00.42 | Esamynn | s/cut/got cut/ |
| 02:00.43 | Thunder_Child | no i didnt...well not on mine |
| 02:00.52 | Esamynn | well you did for the rest of us :P |
| 02:00.55 | Thunder_Child | "pacities as large as 3 TB." sweet. release date eta 2010, not so sweet." |
| 02:01.58 | Thunder_Child | isnt IRC supposed to echo back when everyone sees? |
| 02:02.19 | JoshBorke | sometimes |
| 02:02.32 | JoshBorke | and someone else said they would have 4TB by 2011 |
| 02:02.41 | Kaydeethree | hitachi iirc |
| 02:03.01 | Thunder_Child | they should be putting their money into solidstate drives...much better |
| 02:03.23 | JoshBorke | ecxept for the inherent physics limiting read/writes |
| 02:03.47 | Thunder_Child | eh? |
| 02:04.01 | JoshBorke | flash dies |
| 02:04.09 | Kaydeethree | ya, I'm not going anywhere near solid state until flash media stops crapping out after a lot of read/write cycles |
| 02:04.11 | Thunder_Child | everything does |
| 02:04.32 | Kaydeethree | at nowhere near the MTBF of at least medicore HDDs |
| 02:04.36 | Cidan | sigh |
| 02:04.38 | Cidan | I'm going to |
| 02:04.40 | Cidan | out right |
| 02:04.41 | Cidan | MURDER |
| 02:04.50 | Wobwork | a curry? |
| 02:04.55 | Cidan | the next person who says solid state is bad because of read/write cycles |
| 02:05.04 | Mr_Rabies2 | hrm |
| 02:05.13 | Cidan | Let's have some FUN WITH MATH(TM) |
| 02:05.17 | Mr_Rabies2 | Eyonix is approaching CM Rampancy |
| 02:05.21 | Kaydeethree | solidstateisbadecauseofread/writecyxcles |
| 02:05.23 | Wobwork | By adding an 'S' to the end? |
| 02:05.25 | JoshBorke | have fun with math then |
| 02:05.37 | Mr_Rabies2 | he's making fun of stupid people, i have a feeling he will meet a swift end like tseric soon :[ |
| 02:05.39 | Mr_Rabies2 | http://www.wowblues.com/us/gtpetition-mana-tide-totemlt-2366735297.html |
| 02:06.00 | JoshBorke | apparently a developer accidentally used flash as a hard drive where he wrote pages back to disk and killed his flash drive in 5 minutes |
| 02:07.27 | Kirkburn | omg, Hallows End quests! |
| 02:07.36 | Kaydeethree | Mr_Rabies, http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=2366704855&postId=24778154862&sid=1#151 |
| 02:07.47 | Kirkburn | Costumed Orphan Matron, funky |
| 02:08.48 | Kirkburn | Server is slow as hell thougb |
| 02:08.51 | Kirkburn | *though |
| 02:09.44 | Cidan | So as we know, solid state drives will start to skip sectors that are failing. Now solid state drives are not like hard drives because they will write data across the flash memory in a uniform fashion and not in order like a hard drive. A single sector on a mid level flash drive can be written about 100,000 times. If we look at a 100,000,000,000 byte hard drive, that's 100,000,000,000 / 8 * 100,000 writes |
| 02:10.12 | Cidan | er, make that * 8 * 100,000 |
| 02:10.16 | Cidan | stupid keyboard |
| 02:10.30 | Intangir | whats a good addon, like lootlink but.. one that works |
| 02:10.32 | JoshBorke | how big is that? |
| 02:10.33 | Intangir | that caches item links |
| 02:10.38 | Intangir | and is searchable |
| 02:10.43 | JoshBorke | 100GB? |
| 02:10.48 | Wobwork | hm |
| 02:10.50 | Cidan | yes |
| 02:10.54 | Cidan | It would take you about... |
| 02:10.55 | Wobwork | Too Human looks... interesting |
| 02:10.56 | Cidan | 27 years |
| 02:11.00 | Cidan | for the drive to fail |
| 02:11.07 | Cidan | if you wrote data to it every day. |
| 02:11.13 | JoshBorke | assuming what? |
| 02:11.21 | Cidan | you wrote 100gb every day |
| 02:11.38 | Cidan | And that's using low end |
| 02:11.40 | JoshBorke | basically the life of a flash drive grows linearly as the density grows |
| 02:11.41 | Cidan | memory chips |
| 02:11.51 | Cidan | higher end chips |
| 02:11.57 | Cidan | 10 fold on writes |
| 02:12.00 | Kirkburn | [Flimsy Male Tauren Mask] :D |
| 02:12.20 | Cidan | The argument that flash drives will fail... irk the hell out of me |
| 02:12.26 | Cidan | Now, what I will argue is speed. |
| 02:12.27 | Cidan | :P |
| 02:12.52 | Thunder_Child | interesting.... http://www.acmeportable.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=481&Itemid=108 |
| 02:12.58 | AnduinLothar | Anyone know a res monitor that uses raid spell events rather than a chat comm? |
| 02:13.10 | Thunder_Child | portable comp with 3 17in screens |
| 02:13.29 | JoshBorke | AnduinLothar: without comm can't get target info |
| 02:13.34 | Kirkburn | omg, firefightin! |
| 02:13.43 | AnduinLothar | can't you get it with raid spell events? |
| 02:13.58 | JoshBorke | no |
| 02:14.13 | AnduinLothar | hmm, is that a 2.3 added feature? |
| 02:14.28 | JoshBorke | 2.3 adds spell name and rank |
| 02:14.43 | JoshBorke | hm, doesn't sound right |
| 02:16.49 | Shirik|zZz | What is the time delay between server transfers? |
| 02:16.56 | Shirik|zZz | (I.e., how long would it take me to forcibly get a name change?) |
| 02:17.19 | AnduinLothar | mine was over night |
| 02:17.24 | AnduinLothar | oh nm |
| 02:17.29 | Shirik|zZz | but there's a delay between transfers |
| 02:17.46 | AnduinLothar | miss read |
| 02:17.51 | Cidan | depends on load shirik |
| 02:17.59 | Cidan | it can be an hour or two |
| 02:18.03 | Cidan | or it can be a day or two |
| 02:18.04 | Shirik|zZz | no it doesn't, they have a strict timer |
| 02:18.10 | Shirik|zZz | a month or something |
| 02:18.16 | Cidan | oh, the cooldown |
| 02:18.20 | Cidan | 3 months? |
| 02:18.26 | Shirik|zZz | is that it? |
| 02:18.30 | Cidan | yep |
| 02:18.31 | JoshBorke | i'm looking for the post AL |
| 02:19.07 | AnduinLothar | not in the Upcoming 2.3 Changes stickie |
| 02:19.36 | JoshBorke | i'll find it damnit! |
| 02:21.28 | JoshBorke | i just saw the thread the other day too... |
| 02:21.56 | Thunder_Child | what are you looking for? |
| 02:22.14 | JoshBorke | the post where blizzard said they are adding rank information to UNIT_SPELLCAST* |
| 02:22.38 | Nom- | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:22.51 | Nom- | apparently shockadin pallies are rippin' it up on the PTR |
| 02:22.58 | Nom- | 1500+ healing, 800+ spell dmg |
| 02:22.59 | JoshBorke | lol |
| 02:23.21 | Wobwork | hehe welcome to nerf =P |
| 02:26.46 | JoshBorke | AnduinLothar: i'm positive that UNIT_SPELLCAST* will now contain name and rank information for all units but you still won't get target information |
| 02:33.01 | Nom- | I'm not so sure they will nerf it actually :) |
| 02:33.46 | Nom- | No need to drop the bar back down again :) |
| 02:33.56 | Nom- | Everyone just needs to l2p |
| 02:33.59 | JoshBorke | hm |
| 02:34.05 | JoshBorke | 1500+ healing = 500 + spell damage |
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| 02:34.11 | *** mode/#wowi-lounge [+o Iriel] by ChanServ |
| 02:34.21 | JoshBorke | maybe iriel knows! |
| 02:34.38 | JoshBorke | iriel! 2.3 is supposed to have spell name and rank as part of the UNIT_SPELLCAST* events, right? |
| 02:34.49 | Iriel | Right, actually that showed up in 2.2 |
| 02:35.01 | JoshBorke | huh, well there you have it AL :-P |
| 02:36.31 | AnduinLothar | WTB target |
| 02:37.07 | JoshBorke | neva! |
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| 02:38.15 | Lunessa | STATION |
| 02:38.50 | Cidan | grr |
| 02:38.59 | Cidan | why won't Evolution give me my ldap results |
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| 02:40.29 | Thunder_Child | WTB name of band, really well known, southern sounding name, people beat on you if you havent heard of them, have a nickname for their band name |
| 02:44.08 | Wobwork | hm |
| 02:44.20 | Wobwork | What's the normal regexp version of the luaregexp boundary condition? |
| 02:50.28 | Shirik|zZz | ok, note to self |
| 02:50.32 | Shirik|zZz | cat /dev/random isn't funny |
| 02:51.29 | Cidan | actually |
| 02:51.36 | Cidan | one that I do all the time |
| 02:51.42 | Cidan | is cat /dev/memory |
| 02:51.45 | Cidan | it's useful. |
| 02:52.09 | Thunder_Child | it's funny Shirik|zZz, you just dont have a sense of humor |
| 02:52.26 | Cidan | or or cat /dev/mem |
| 02:52.29 | Cidan | depending |
| 02:53.00 | Thunder_Child | nvm then i found the band i was looking for |
| 02:53.38 | Wobwork | it's funnier when you cat /dev/random > /dev/audio |
| 02:53.48 | Shirik|zZz | Wobwork: It was bad enough |
| 02:53.54 | Shirik|zZz | considering I killed cat, and it was still beeping |
| 02:53.59 | Shirik|zZz | I guess from all the \a it encountered |
| 02:54.04 | Wobwork | You killed cat =( |
| 02:54.09 | Shirik|zZz | yes, I killed cat |
| 02:54.12 | Shirik|zZz | OMG IT'S STILL BEEPING |
| 02:54.19 | Thunder_Child | it's to curious.... |
| 02:54.23 | Shirik|zZz | I go away to finish my macaroni and cheese |
| 02:54.26 | Shirik|zZz | and it's still going |
| 02:54.27 | Mr_Rabies2 | argh |
| 02:54.29 | Thunder_Child | s/to/too/ |
| 02:54.38 | Mr_Rabies2 | Advanced Test Chamber 18 in portal is a bitch |
| 02:55.03 | Iriel | Mr_Rabies2: heh 8-) |
| 02:55.13 | Mr_Rabies2 | i honestly am totally stuck atm |
| 02:55.19 | Mr_Rabies2 | tempted to noclip :x |
| 02:55.28 | Thunder_Child | isnt worth it |
| 02:55.43 | Iriel | Are you stuck on the 1st jump? |
| 02:55.47 | Mr_Rabies2 | nope |
| 02:55.48 | Mr_Rabies2 | got that |
| 02:55.56 | Mr_Rabies2 | 2nd jump, nothing that's portalable |
| 02:56.27 | Cidan | damn |
| 02:56.29 | Thunder_Child | i assume there is you just cant find it |
| 02:56.33 | Mr_Rabies2 | well yeah |
| 02:57.20 | Shirik|zZz | sooo |
| 02:58.57 | Shirik|zZz | $ cat /dev/random > /dev/audio |
| 02:58.57 | Shirik|zZz | bash: /dev/audio: No such file or directory |
| 02:58.58 | Shirik|zZz | boo |
| 02:59.04 | Shirik|zZz | I'll have to hop onto ubuntu later |
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| 02:59.32 | Iriel | Mr_Rabies2: Oh that one |
| 03:00.08 | Iriel | Do you want a hint? |
| 03:00.17 | Mr_Rabies2 | probably wouldn't hurt |
| 03:00.54 | Iriel | Worry about across, not up. |
| 03:02.22 | Mr_Rabies2 | there is nowhere BUT up :/ |
| 03:03.22 | Iriel | You've done the first 2 jumps, right? |
| 03:03.30 | Mr_Rabies2 | no |
| 03:03.34 | Mr_Rabies2 | haven't done the 2nd one |
| 03:03.36 | Thunder_Child | he is on 2nd i think |
| 03:03.42 | Thunder_Child | ^^ |
| 03:03.44 | Iriel | Ah, you need to set that one up during the first IIRC |
| 03:03.52 | Mr_Rabies2 | that's what i thought |
| 03:04.01 | Thunder_Child | see, now i have to go buy that game |
| 03:04.12 | Iriel | Thunder_Child: It's delightful. |
| 03:04.23 | Thunder_Child | so it looks, i just saw the video |
| 03:06.20 | Iriel | Mr_Rabies2: Takes me about 6 tries to get it right |
| 03:06.51 | Mr_Rabies2 | almost got it |
| 03:07.51 | Iriel | My clue will cover you for the NEXT mind-bendingly frustrating jump. |
| 03:09.38 | Mr_Rabies2 | i may have cheesed it |
| 03:09.41 | Mr_Rabies2 | because it was really easy |
| 03:09.46 | Mr_Rabies2 | i saw a block sticking out |
| 03:09.49 | Iriel | the next one? is easy yes |
| 03:09.51 | Mr_Rabies2 | was that what i was supposed to use? |
| 03:10.07 | Iriel | unless you try to get onto the block and fail the first way in such a way that makes you think that doesn't work |
| 03:10.15 | Cidan | whew, #ubuntu is crazy tonight, :D |
| 03:10.15 | Iriel | and then spend 45 minutes trying other things |
| 03:10.19 | Iriel | before trying the stupid block again |
| 03:11.07 | Iriel | not that anyone would do such a thing, of course |
| 03:13.19 | Iriel | The turret room is fun on that level once you figure it out |
| 03:13.29 | Lunessa | ... See, I hate that Mario Borthers crap in games. Seriously people, if I wanted to jump on shit and hit things with my head, I'd play Mario Brothers. |
| 03:13.49 | Thunder_Child | " jump on shit and hit things with my head" called life |
| 03:15.05 | Lunessa | I'm a human, not a gorram chimp. |
| 03:32.14 | Cidan | okay so, I've never really used a VM before |
| 03:32.17 | Cidan | kinda neat. |
| 03:33.22 | Mr_Rabies2 | woo |
| 03:33.28 | Mr_Rabies2 | beat 18 advanced :D |
| 03:33.35 | Cidan | good job |
| 03:33.37 | Cidan | hard eh? |
| 03:33.40 | Mr_Rabies2 | wheres mah mofuggin cake |
| 03:33.42 | Mr_Rabies2 | yeah |
| 03:33.45 | Cidan | you get none |
| 03:33.53 | Cidan | *taps foot* |
| 03:33.56 | Mr_Rabies2 | "Vanilla Crazy Cake" |
| 03:34.01 | Mr_Rabies2 | mein |
| 03:34.51 | Mr_Rabies2 | terminal velocity time |
| 03:35.40 | Cidan | I did that on the last level, where you have to fly upwards by jumping down the pit |
| 03:35.45 | Cidan | just went afk |
| 03:35.50 | Cidan | takes a long while |
| 03:36.42 | Mr_Rabies2 | i'm just doing it at the beginning of 13 |
| 03:37.45 | Mr_Rabies2 | then i get to do a camera run sometime |
| 03:37.52 | Cidan | bleh, stupid slow vista install |
| 03:38.16 | Cidan | though with this, I think I'm going to rm -rf the vista partition and just have that entire 70 gig drive a VM, or multiple VM's |
| 03:38.25 | Cidan | sorry, thinking out loud |
| 03:43.30 | Mr_Rabies2 | thats whar she said |
| 03:43.33 | Mr_Rabies2 | what |
| 03:43.35 | Mr_Rabies2 | dammit |
| 03:47.21 | Mr_Rabies2 | long jump and challenges are my only achievements left |
| 03:47.26 | Mr_Rabies2 | and camera |
| 03:48.05 | Iriel | I'm missing only 3 cameras, but I have no idea where they are |
| 03:48.49 | Mr_Rabies2 | mine got reset |
| 03:48.50 | Mr_Rabies2 | :[ |
| 03:49.02 | Mr_Rabies2 | cause i turned on commentary i guess |
| 03:49.19 | Iriel | reload a non-commentary game, should be back then |
| 03:51.16 | Mr_Rabies2 | could be cause i was also noclipping around in commentary mode |
| 03:51.20 | Mr_Rabies2 | i can just redo it |
| 03:51.22 | Mr_Rabies2 | no biggie |
| 03:53.25 | Cidan | I missed 2 |
| 03:53.34 | Cidan | also, I missed 11 bugs in HL2 EP2 |
| 03:57.59 | AnduinLothar | chain heal is cheating for heal meters... |
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| 04:04.01 | Wobwork | It's also highly effective =) |
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| 04:07.50 | Cairenn|afk | but wasn't in that case :p |
| 04:07.53 | Cairenn|afk | what's up Cidan? |
| 04:15.01 | Cidan | oh hi |
| 04:15.02 | Cidan | lol |
| 04:15.02 | Cidan | :D |
| 04:15.11 | Cidan | Did you see the new update to come for LotRO? |
| 04:16.51 | Cairenn | yes, spend a fair bit of time on Roheryn |
| 04:17.10 | Cidan | oh er, test server has the book 11 stuff? |
| 04:17.22 | Cidan | I thought it was just announced |
| 04:17.22 | Cairenn | um, yah |
| 04:17.24 | Cidan | oh |
| 04:17.26 | Cidan | :x |
| 04:17.27 | Cairenn | hehehe |
| 04:17.30 | Cidan | guild housing! |
| 04:18.18 | Cairenn | Turbine is like SOE in that regard - they have a permanent persistent test server |
| 04:18.30 | Cairenn | one thing I think Blizzard truly lacks in |
| 04:18.42 | AnduinLothar | lol, another pally just bopped the MT on tidewalker |
| 04:18.42 | Cidan | ah |
| 04:18.51 | Cidan | well this I did not know |
| 04:18.56 | Cairenn | now you do :) |
| 04:19.02 | Cidan | once I get LotRO up in Linux, I will be messing with it |
| 04:19.13 | Cidan | so really you can play your main on the test server... or does it wipe? |
| 04:19.13 | Cairenn | http://forums.lotro.com/forumdisplay.php?f=137 |
| 04:19.28 | AnduinLothar | Blizz has a perma test server, it's jsut not always publicly accessable |
| 04:20.28 | Cidan | and of course, right after I switch off vista and to ubuntu |
| 04:20.32 | Cidan | LotRO supports DX10 |
| 04:20.38 | Cairenn | AnduinLothar: that's what I mean, though - SOE and Turbine both have *publicly* accessible, permanent test servers - they do their own internal testing, then they have an invite only beta server, then it goes to Roheryn, then to live |
| 04:20.47 | Cairenn | (in the case of Turbine) |
| 04:21.59 | AnduinLothar | it WOULD solve a lot of the issues they have with char copy and flooding every time they put it up |
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| 04:39.59 | Cidan | man |
| 04:40.08 | Cidan | Vista is really a pain in the arse in a virtual machine |
| 04:40.10 | Tierrie | whooo headache gone from hot shower |
| 04:40.12 | Tierrie | :( |
| 04:40.16 | Tierrie | don't use vista in a VM, it is a hog |
| 04:40.23 | Tierrie | but if you use it in a high end machine, it is gorgeous |
| 04:40.27 | Tierrie | i think its sexier than OSX |
| 04:40.35 | Cidan | bleh, I just moved away from Vista |
| 04:40.40 | Cidan | installed ubuntu |
| 04:40.46 | Tierrie | i tried ubuntu, i have it on VM here |
| 04:40.47 | Tierrie | i hate it |
| 04:41.00 | Cidan | I'm using ubuntu 7.10, it's great. |
| 04:41.05 | Tierrie | they say its pretty, and all that but compared to OSX and Vista, it is about 3-5 years behind |
| 04:41.07 | Cidan | as my main os |
| 04:41.12 | Cidan | lol |
| 04:41.13 | Cidan | no way |
| 04:41.18 | Tierrie | uh graphically i mean |
| 04:41.22 | Cidan | you have something setup wrong |
| 04:41.37 | Cidan | you clearly have not used emerald |
| 04:41.46 | Tierrie | i used the default settings ;( |
| 04:41.51 | Tierrie | its ugly orange |
| 04:41.57 | Tierrie | puke brown i call it |
| 04:42.01 | Cidan | so change it, that's the wonder of Ubuntu |
| 04:42.05 | Cidan | you can change anything |
| 04:42.07 | Cidan | any time |
| 04:42.08 | Tierrie | i changed it to a few other stuff |
| 04:42.10 | Tierrie | they were all ugly |
| 04:42.12 | Tierrie | let me try booting it |
| 04:42.15 | Cidan | so use emerald |
| 04:42.21 | Cidan | apt-get install emerald* |
| 04:42.34 | Cidan | then do emerald --replace & |
| 04:42.45 | Cidan | also if you're in a VM... |
| 04:42.48 | Tierrie | loading it now |
| 04:42.50 | Cidan | you're not going to get 3D effects |
| 04:43.00 | Tierrie | i saw those before |
| 04:43.01 | Tierrie | its nice |
| 04:43.11 | Tierrie | but i still prefer vista |
| 04:43.18 | Cidan | I did until 7.10 |
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| 04:43.38 | Cidan | I deleted Vista, since the only games I really play work on Wine anyways |
| 04:43.53 | Cidan | Ubuntu takes up less than 300 megs of RAM |
| 04:44.18 | Tierrie | i don't know... vista is pretty configurable imho |
| 04:44.21 | Cidan | right now with Vista loaded in the VM, I'm using 949 megs of ram. |
| 04:44.30 | Cidan | Uh, not to the scale of Ubuntu, no. |
| 04:44.58 | Tierrie | maybe not, but its nothing i'd change so far |
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| 04:45.27 | Tierrie | time to see this emerald |
| 04:45.55 | Cidan | also use emerald-manager |
| 04:46.05 | Cidan | and get the free and non-free themes |
| 04:46.16 | Cidan | you can even make it look like Vista if you're that hard core, :P |
| 04:48.06 | dreamss | http://www.escapistmagazine.com/articles/view/editorials/zeropunctuation/2541-Zero-Punctuation-The-Orange-Box |
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| 04:48.31 | Tierrie | wru emerald |
| 04:51.37 | Cidan | Yes. |
| 04:51.40 | Cidan | wru indeed. |
| 04:51.46 | Cidan | wru indeed... |
| 04:51.54 | Tierrie | i found it |
| 04:51.57 | Tierrie | setting it up |
| 04:52.08 | Tierrie | so many button clicks since i don't know what i'm doing |
| 04:52.58 | Tierrie | so i made my own theme |
| 04:53.02 | Tierrie | and am double clicking it like mad |
| 04:53.22 | Tierrie | oh i have to use Theme |
| 04:54.29 | Cidan | now that Compiz is enabled by default, maybe Ubuntu will move away from Metacity, or get some new features in it |
| 04:54.33 | Wobwork | woohoo |
| 04:54.36 | Wobwork | new zero punc |
| 04:54.38 | Wobwork | ta dreamss |
| 04:55.32 | art3mis | heh |
| 04:55.36 | art3mis | dream on cid |
| 04:55.38 | Tierrie | ok now i have to read the damn man file :P |
| 04:55.42 | art3mis | metacity is awesome! |
| 04:56.44 | art3mis | what i'd love to see is them to include a theme/skinner for gnome so that i can change the default layout and look to make it all sexy and groovy |
| 04:56.56 | Thunder_Child | you can |
| 04:57.01 | Thunder_Child | it's just not included |
| 04:57.02 | Tierrie | Cidan is telling me to use emerald |
| 04:57.06 | art3mis | oh? |
| 04:57.07 | Tierrie | that is supposed to do that |
| 04:57.12 | Tierrie | i am working with it right now |
| 04:57.16 | art3mis | TC: im thinking like the litestep/darkstep themes |
| 04:57.19 | dreamss | kcikass one wob |
| 04:57.20 | Tierrie | so far either i am dum |
| 04:57.23 | Cidan | when you install emerald |
| 04:57.24 | Thunder_Child | hmmm. |
| 04:57.24 | Cidan | type |
| 04:57.27 | Tierrie | or the damn thing is hard to use |
| 04:57.35 | Cidan | emerald --replace & |
| 04:57.36 | Thunder_Child | i do know there is a very good theme manager for linux |
| 04:57.36 | art3mis | like complete redeign of the look |
| 04:57.49 | Cidan | then start up the emerald manager, and pick a theme |
| 04:57.53 | Tierrie | Cidan: I did that, i am using the edit themes thing now |
| 04:58.02 | Tierrie | there's no default theme i have to create my own |
| 04:58.12 | Cidan | then you didn't listen to me when I said |
| 04:58.15 | art3mis | for some reason to me chaning the colour, font and icons != new theme |
| 04:58.16 | Cidan | apt-get install emerald* |
| 04:58.19 | Tierrie | and when i do, and then dbl click on it, it doesn't replace any themes |
| 04:58.20 | Cidan | with a * |
| 04:58.28 | Tierrie | oi i can run two lines of commands verbatim oi |
| 04:58.28 | Cidan | because you didn't install themes, :P |
| 04:58.37 | art3mis | its still the same crappy layout and feel |
| 04:59.09 | art3mis | and yes i despise kde |
| 04:59.15 | art3mis | havent mucked with kde4 though |
| 04:59.49 | Wobwork | dreamss: Okay, that's convinced me to get Portal =P |
| 04:59.49 | Thunder_Child | hmmm...unfortumetly i cant remember where iwas told...it's been a while |
| 04:59.49 | Thunder_Child | ~lart Thunder_Child |
| 04:59.49 | purl | takes out a cattle prod and gives Thunder_Child a good jolt |
| 04:59.49 | art3mis | but if its more of teh same we wanna be cutsey and ahve big ugly icons and a non intuative menu layout, i think i'll pass |
| 04:59.57 | Thunder_Child | yipe! |
| 05:00.09 | art3mis | TC: some men pay for that kind of treatment ;P |
| 05:00.12 | Cidan | grr, installing lotro twice in one night sucks |
| 05:00.18 | Cidan | once on linux |
| 05:00.21 | Cidan | again on vm |
| 05:00.21 | Thunder_Child | indeed art3mis |
| 05:00.21 | Cidan | :/ |
| 05:00.33 | art3mis | it was painful installing the first time |
| 05:00.38 | art3mis | and not all that fun to play |
| 05:00.44 | Tierrie | Cidan: i did exactly as you said, maybe its the VM being a bitch |
| 05:00.53 | Cidan | likely |
| 05:00.54 | Cidan | *shrug* |
| 05:00.57 | Cidan | I <3 emerald |
| 05:01.07 | Cidan | transparent themes for windows, even mac os themes |
| 05:01.16 | Cidan | along with compiz, it's great |
| 05:01.17 | art3mis | cept the scrollie bar |
| 05:01.25 | art3mis | i want that scrollie bar for win32 |
| 05:01.27 | art3mis | or win64 |
| 05:01.42 | art3mis | the mac bottom menu thingy |
| 05:01.42 | Tierrie | maybe it is like "you can't use this shit on your emulated ubuntu box vista loser" |
| 05:01.46 | Cidan | For some reason |
| 05:01.48 | Tierrie | anyway i am rebooting the VM |
| 05:01.57 | Thunder_Child | i wish i could have gotten beryl working |
| 05:01.59 | Thunder_Child | :( |
| 05:02.01 | Cidan | this version of Ubuntu, the ring switcher is a bit slower |
| 05:02.02 | Tierrie | art3mis: look for RocketDock |
| 05:02.08 | Cidan | why would you use beryl? |
| 05:02.21 | Tierrie | art3mis: also install Launchy |
| 05:02.30 | Tierrie | I use RocketDock and Launchy and removed Vista's toolbar |
| 05:02.37 | Cidan | art3mis: what's the name of that dock program, avent or something? |
| 05:03.27 | Cidan | avant, that's it |
| 05:03.57 | Tierrie | what pisses me off is that Vista didn't ship with all of LH's features |
| 05:04.22 | Tierrie | ok Cidan, so, after I do all those commands, and lets say i get them right |
| 05:04.33 | Tierrie | i create a theme and dbl click on it, and it automatically themes my desktop right? |
| 05:05.11 | Cidan | you don't create a theme, I mean you can |
| 05:05.14 | Cidan | but it comes with an assload |
| 05:05.18 | Tierrie | oh so it comes with some themes? |
| 05:05.29 | Cidan | "some" is like, 40 |
| 05:05.35 | Cidan | and there are tons more |
| 05:06.21 | Tierrie | oh i had to su root to get emerald installed maybe its installed in my root folder brb |
| 05:06.29 | art3mis | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:06.33 | Tierrie | roger roger |
| 05:06.45 | art3mis | its got a rolly menu thingy like macs? |
| 05:06.53 | Cidan | oh if you want that |
| 05:06.56 | Cidan | get ObjectDock |
| 05:06.59 | Cidan | by Stardock |
| 05:07.08 | Cidan | it's pretty much an exact clone |
| 05:07.08 | Tierrie | yes art3mis |
| 05:07.11 | Tierrie | RocketDock is free |
| 05:07.12 | art3mis | thats like the most awesomest feature of osx ;P |
| 05:07.19 | Tierrie | use it with launchy art3mis |
| 05:07.28 | art3mis | is it widgit? |
| 05:07.33 | art3mis | or replacement of standard |
| 05:07.43 | Tierrie | no its another program that is so damn intuitive you go "how the fuck did i not get this before" |
| 05:07.53 | art3mis | ie lets say im using an alt-shell |
| 05:07.55 | Tierrie | but they are different stuff |
| 05:08.00 | Tierrie | rocketdock is the dock |
| 05:08.10 | art3mis | so just a widgit |
| 05:08.11 | Tierrie | launchy is another program, that lets you launch programs a different way |
| 05:08.20 | Tierrie | no relationship |
| 05:08.21 | art3mis | the rest of my desktop is fine |
| 05:08.38 | art3mis | i just wanna be sure that its completely standalone |
| 05:08.41 | Tierrie | doesn't modify your desktop |
| 05:08.50 | art3mis | thats what i mean by widgit btw |
| 05:08.53 | Tierrie | ah |
| 05:08.59 | Tierrie | i thought you meant plugin to rocketdock |
| 05:11.51 | Tierrie | hey Cidan where does Emerald put the themes? |
| 05:12.02 | art3mis | in its pouch ;P |
| 05:12.04 | Tierrie | ~/ or somewhere else? |
| 05:14.02 | Cidan | no clue |
| 05:14.04 | Cidan | good question |
| 05:14.06 | Cidan | I imagine no |
| 05:14.22 | Cidan | prolly /usr somewhere |
| 05:15.38 | Tierrie | well i am running it as root now, so i am going to redo it all |
| 05:15.46 | Tierrie | and see if the almighty can solve it |
| 05:16.33 | Cidan | lulz |
| 05:16.40 | Tierrie | art3mis: did you get rocketdock? |
| 05:16.41 | Cidan | when you install anything you install with root |
| 05:16.53 | Tierrie | i did su root to do it originally |
| 05:16.56 | Cidan | but when you run x, you run it under a user |
| 05:16.59 | Cidan | which is fine |
| 05:17.00 | Tierrie | but tried to change the theme in user |
| 05:17.04 | Cidan | right |
| 05:17.07 | Cidan | that's correct |
| 05:17.10 | Cidan | you're supposed to do that |
| 05:17.12 | Tierrie | and it didn't show up with any themes, so i thought maybe it saved the themes to ~/ |
| 05:17.13 | art3mis | yeah mucking aboot with it |
| 05:17.25 | Cidan | you didn't download the theme package |
| 05:17.32 | Cidan | apt-cache search emerald |
| 05:17.38 | Cidan | and get everything that is emerald related |
| 05:17.45 | Cidan | as root |
| 05:17.55 | Cidan | then as user, emerald-manager |
| 05:18.05 | Tierrie | it could easily be a VM problem |
| 05:18.38 | Tierrie | i apt-get installed emerald* which would grep all the emerald* related files |
| 05:18.57 | Tierrie | ja |
| 05:19.01 | Tierrie | see now i see them themes |
| 05:19.03 | Tierrie | harro |
| 05:19.41 | Tierrie | errr, do i double click to change themes? |
| 05:20.36 | Tierrie | or just single click |
| 05:20.44 | Tierrie | because uhm thats a dumb question and, neither seems to be working |
| 05:21.39 | Cidan | is emerald running? |
| 05:21.42 | Tierrie | yes |
| 05:21.54 | Cidan | did it replace the brown metacity? |
| 05:22.00 | Cidan | the puke, as you call it |
| 05:22.57 | Tierrie | nope :( |
| 05:23.03 | Tierrie | oh hey emerald is not running |
| 05:23.12 | Tierrie | ps ax | grep emerald -> nothing |
| 05:23.17 | Tierrie | and i ran emerald a few times now :( |
| 05:23.25 | Tierrie | why the hate VMware? |
| 05:25.30 | Tierrie | ok just to check, when you type emerald & or emerald it actually RUNS emerald on your system right? |
| 05:25.37 | Tierrie | and when you psax and all that it shows up as a process? |
| 05:26.10 | Cidan | ps aux |
| 05:26.30 | Cidan | is what I use |
| 05:26.31 | Cidan | :P |
| 05:27.03 | Tierrie | well yeah ok so when i run emerald it shows up as a process because it runs and doesn't like, just quit right away right? |
| 05:28.49 | Cidan | then no VM for you? |
| 05:29.26 | Tierrie | well when i run it, it drops to shell only for a while then prompts me to log back on after gnome restarts |
| 05:29.30 | Tierrie | i thought it was just restarting gnome |
| 05:29.59 | Tierrie | it just occured to me that it could have actually just failed, crashed gnome and then the system restarts gnome, not emerald restarts gnome |
| 05:30.12 | Tierrie | in which case VM + Emerald = sad |
| 05:31.59 | Tierrie | howsit going |
| 05:32.53 | art3mis | only thing i need now is a compiz effects for my desktop and VWM |
| 05:33.59 | Tierrie | ok well good luck with that :D |
| 05:34.03 | art3mis | hahah |
| 05:34.04 | Tierrie | did you use launchy btw? |
| 05:34.09 | Tierrie | did you like it? |
| 05:34.51 | art3mis | found a trial of objectdock, mucking with that for now |
| 05:35.00 | art3mis | yay usenet ;) |
| 05:35.12 | Tierrie | install launchy anyway |
| 05:35.20 | art3mis | whats that do? |
| 05:35.30 | Tierrie | its hard to describe |
| 05:35.39 | art3mis | then its not a very good program ;P |
| 05:35.44 | art3mis | give it a shot |
| 05:36.10 | Tierrie | it allows you to execute anything at a command line level |
| 05:36.17 | Tierrie | without requiring you to open a terminal |
| 05:36.23 | art3mis | im in xp |
| 05:36.31 | Tierrie | its for windows machines |
| 05:36.54 | art3mis | why would i need that though when i can just make myself a bunch of single click hotspots in emerge ;P |
| 05:37.03 | art3mis | im not THAT much of a CLI zealot |
| 05:37.05 | art3mis | heh |
| 05:37.11 | Tierrie | *shrug* |
| 05:37.16 | Tierrie | one day its going to be on your desktop |
| 05:37.21 | Tierrie | and you'll be like "how come no one told me" |
| 05:37.25 | art3mis | its in my list of things to muck with ehn im bored though |
| 05:37.29 | Tierrie | and i'll be like "dumb art3mis" |
| 05:37.46 | art3mis | laugh i doubt that |
| 05:38.09 | art3mis | but if yer holding out on me for a compiz type VWM im gonna hunt you down and feed your dog! |
| 05:38.15 | Tierrie | rotfl i don't know of one |
| 05:38.21 | Tierrie | check out the launchy webpage anywa |
| 05:38.24 | Tierrie | and see their screenshots |
| 05:39.13 | art3mis | hehe "the keystroke launcher" |
| 05:39.19 | art3mis | i read that as keystroke logger |
| 05:39.39 | Tierrie | O_o |
| 05:41.05 | Cidan | Oh nice |
| 05:41.08 | Cidan | REALLY FUCKING nice |
| 05:41.16 | Tierrie | O_O |
| 05:41.19 | Cidan | The LotRO launcher in linux detects two accounts |
| 05:41.27 | Cidan | my active and inactive one |
| 05:41.27 | art3mis | hahahahahahahahahah |
| 05:41.37 | Cidan | guess which one it tries to login with? |
| 05:41.43 | Tierrie | root? |
| 05:41.45 | Cidan | 2 am, only to get this. |
| 05:41.52 | Cidan | the inactive one |
| 05:41.57 | Tierrie | i am kidding |
| 05:42.01 | Tierrie | i hate turbine anyway |
| 05:42.19 | Tierrie | i was best friends with all their 1st gen developers, the ones that released the game |
| 05:42.23 | Tierrie | all buddy buddy |
| 05:42.29 | Tierrie | then they became successful and dicks |
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| 05:52.33 | Thunder_Child | Jonathan Coulton is way to weird for me |
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| 06:06.10 | Cidan | I really hate this. |
| 06:10.56 | Mr_Rabies2 | this things is really heavy and hurts my face. i really hates it |
| 06:12.28 | Cairenn | then you need a kavorkian scarf! |
| 06:12.37 | Cairenn | http://www.illwillpress.com/scarf.html |
| 06:12.39 | Thunder_Child | ~lart Cairenn |
| 06:12.39 | purl | takes a large goose feather pillow and swings it wildly in Cairenn's direction, hitting Cairenn and sending Cairenn flying into the closet |
| 06:13.05 | Thunder_Child | i hope they have some more rants up |
| 06:18.01 | Thunder_Child | my fave is still http://www.illwillpress.com/black.html |
| 06:18.27 | Mr_Rabies2 | 10 kills in 1 death as a heavy in tf2 |
| 06:18.28 | Mr_Rabies2 | man |
| 06:18.30 | Mr_Rabies2 | i love this game |
| 06:18.31 | Mr_Rabies2 | :D |
| 06:19.36 | Thunder_Child | Mr_Rabies2, fail |
| 06:19.41 | Thunder_Child | sniper for the win |
| 06:19.49 | Thunder_Child | "One Shot, One Kill" |
| 06:20.11 | Thunder_Child | freakin bullet spammer |
| 06:23.14 | Mr_Rabies2 | i play as everything |
| 06:23.16 | Mr_Rabies2 | mostly spy though |
| 06:25.58 | Cidan | eh, LotRO runs... decently on linux |
| 06:26.01 | Cidan | not as fast as I'd like |
| 06:27.39 | Cidan | actually I take that back, runs quite well |
| 06:28.47 | Cairenn | cool |
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| 06:29.20 | Thunder_Child | lies!, it's art3mis's fault |
| 06:29.33 | Tem | FUCKING BULLSHIT |
| 06:29.38 | Tem | I'm sick of cold snap not working |
| 06:29.38 | Cidan | k |
| 06:29.40 | Cairenn | well no shit sherlock |
| 06:29.46 | art3mis | of course it is |
| 06:29.48 | art3mis | duh |
| 06:29.53 | Cairenn | (to TC's comment) |
| 06:30.01 | Cidan | Q |
| 06:30.01 | art3mis | you cn't be the lord of all lies without it being my fault ;) |
| 06:30.01 | Cidan | QQ |
| 06:30.04 | Cidan | Q..QQ |
| 06:30.05 | Cidan | some more |
| 06:30.06 | Cidan | Tem |
| 06:30.09 | Cidan | :P |
| 06:30.14 | Thunder_Child | s/more/moar/ |
| 06:30.30 | art3mis | s/moar/moor |
| 06:30.31 | Thunder_Child | ~lie art3mis |
| 06:30.45 | Thunder_Child | ...sigh, purl has been failing me lately |
| 06:31.08 | art3mis | ;) |
| 06:31.19 | Thunder_Child | ah...took a sec |
| 06:31.30 | Thunder_Child | but arent you suppsed to lie? |
| 06:31.33 | art3mis | you really need to correct those typos |
| 06:31.42 | Cairenn | ... |
| 06:31.43 | art3mis | oh thats females of any species |
| 06:31.47 | Cidan | Cairenn: is there a way to tell what server you're in when you're in game? |
| 06:31.47 | art3mis | not just humans |
| 06:31.53 | Cairenn | Cidan: no |
| 06:31.56 | art3mis | and i know that female cats have teeth and claws |
| 06:32.07 | Cidan | hmm |
| 06:32.43 | Cairenn | there is also no way to switch servers without logging *all* the way out and back in |
| 06:33.08 | Cairenn | We've been bugging for them to add the ability to change servers from the character select screen since alpha, they haven't put it in yet |
| 06:33.29 | Thunder_Child | uhhh..isnt that at the top? |
| 06:33.40 | Cairenn | lotro, not wow |
| 06:33.44 | Thunder_Child | ah |
| 06:33.46 | art3mis | oh hey wanna know something wierd? |
| 06:34.02 | art3mis | ya know the late late show with craig fergeuson? |
| 06:34.19 | art3mis | he had the ex president of mexico last week |
| 06:34.33 | art3mis | kinna spooky |
| 06:35.40 | Thunder_Child | he "had" him?....i dont even want to know |
| 06:36.39 | art3mis | on the show duh |
| 06:36.42 | Cairenn | I'm presuming he meant "as a guest on the show", but I'm just not asking |
| 06:36.45 | Thunder_Child | no kidding |
| 06:36.49 | Thunder_Child | but i am bored |
| 06:37.05 | Thunder_Child | i want more music videos |
| 06:38.37 | art3mis | hahahahaha |
| 06:38.54 | art3mis | larry craig said "i now know what its like to be profiled" |
| 06:39.00 | art3mis | bahahahahaha |
| 06:39.28 | Thunder_Child | oh no he didnt *snap* *snap* *snap* |
| 06:39.41 | art3mis | "and the west coast will b getting 12-15inches of hellfire, so be sure to bring an unmbrella |
| 06:40.29 | Cidan | Cairenn: |
| 06:40.31 | Cidan | we need to talk |
| 06:40.32 | art3mis | did you watch any of those this hour has 22 mins clips TC? |
| 06:40.39 | Cairenn | what now? |
| 06:40.54 | Thunder_Child | i have no idea what your talking about art3mis, so prolly not |
| 06:40.57 | Cidan | can you get in game? |
| 06:41.01 | Cidan | for 2 sec? |
| 06:41.05 | Cidan | it's pretty important |
| 06:41.05 | Cairenn | logging in |
| 06:41.07 | art3mis | since yer bored.. |
| 06:41.12 | art3mis | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iVB7Q2Ge0Ts |
| 06:41.27 | art3mis | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VzGwhPmWXI4 |
| 06:41.29 | Cidan | send a tell to nertuo |
| 06:41.57 | art3mis | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K8cDRwhgi6Q last one |
| 06:42.08 | Cairenn | need a twink guilded, huh? |
| 06:42.25 | Cidan | no |
| 06:42.31 | Cidan | this is serious |
| 06:42.34 | Cidan | just send a tell off |
| 06:42.41 | Cidan | I think I've discovered a huge exploit |
| 06:43.06 | art3mis | will it benefit me with gold and loot? |
| 06:43.16 | Thunder_Child | art3mis, it's canada, thats noramal |
| 06:43.20 | Thunder_Child | normal* |
| 06:43.24 | art3mis | tc: heh yeah |
| 06:43.55 | art3mis | "temperatures reserved for the ice moon Io" |
| 06:44.21 | Cidan | Cairenn: were you able to send me a tell? |
| 06:44.53 | Cairenn | yes |
| 06:45.18 | Cidan | yeah |
| 06:45.19 | Cidan | this is bad |
| 06:45.20 | Cidan | lol |
| 06:45.30 | Cidan | friend me |
| 06:45.31 | Cidan | can't reply |
| 06:45.53 | Thunder_Child | art3mis #2 way funny |
| 06:46.17 | art3mis | heh yeah |
| 06:46.24 | art3mis | they came close a couple of times |
| 06:46.32 | art3mis | most of the this hour has 22mins stuff is great |
| 06:48.46 | Cidan | well that was fun |
| 06:48.50 | Cidan | Off to bed |
| 06:48.53 | Cidan | nini |
| 06:49.22 | Cairenn | Cidan: interesting indeed |
| 06:51.44 | Thunder_Child | art3mis, they do lots of canadian bashing it seems |
| 06:51.50 | Thunder_Child | goos stuff though |
| 06:51.53 | Thunder_Child | good* |
| 06:52.33 | art3mis | hahaha |
| 06:53.33 | art3mis | "so during 9/11 cleanup theres firemen down there working and thier pulling people out and stuff and this one fireman sees this guy walking by with red sox hat and the fireman stops and goes HEY HHEY the sox fucking suck!" |
| 06:53.59 | art3mis | tc: yeah this hour is more or less the satire that the daily show was modelled on |
| 06:54.15 | art3mis | only major difference, this hour has WAY better access to the leaders and cabinet ;P |
| 06:54.18 | Thunder_Child | this makes me want to kill baby kittens http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wgR0ExNjelo&NR=1 |
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| 07:00.23 | art3mis | okay objectdock rules |
| 07:01.26 | Thunder_Child | kinda |
| 07:05.47 | Wobwork | Thunder_Child: ... That makes you want to masturbate? |
| 07:06.13 | Wobwork | If Gunter turns you on... O.O |
| 07:06.26 | Wobwork | Differn't strokes for differn't folks, I guess =) |
| 07:07.09 | Nom- | LOL |
| 07:07.20 | Nom- | Australian censors have banned SoF: Payback |
| 07:07.29 | Nom- | Guess what's going to be the most popular black market game this year? :P |
| 07:07.38 | Thunder_Child | Wobwork, what?? and yes, i do like gunter |
| 07:07.47 | Thunder_Child | i laugh my ass of |
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| 07:15.55 | Nom- | lol |
| 07:16.08 | Nom- | someone smuggled some budgie-smugglers into gitmo ? |
| 07:16.09 | Nom- | funny |
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| 08:14.55 | purl | *sigh* |
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| 08:44.14 | Maldivia | wee... found me a new desktop wallpaper... http://www.hamsteralliance.com/wallpaper/cube-teal.jpg :) |
| 08:48.04 | Corrodias | http://img.4chan.org/b/res/43159023.html |
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| 08:53.02 | art3mis | hrm |
| 08:53.45 | art3mis | anyone know of a standalone VWM that hides the normal desktop but doesnt have anything else like a right click menu and stuff? |
| 08:55.22 | Maldivia | Corrodias: nice :) |
| 08:56.02 | Thrae | For Windows XP? |
| 08:56.22 | art3mis | thrae: yeah |
| 08:56.29 | art3mis | the closest ive found is emerge |
| 08:56.31 | haste | hides the desktop :p ? |
| 08:56.33 | Thrae | What about XP's own Virtual Desktop manager? |
| 08:56.36 | art3mis | but it has a rightlick menu |
| 08:56.45 | nevcairiel | art3mis: just kill explorer ? :D |
| 08:57.01 | art3mis | nevcairiel: that doesnt give my more desks ;P |
| 08:57.03 | nevcairiel | no desktop anymore :) |
| 08:57.08 | Thrae | art3mis: Please tell me you have tried PowerToys |
| 08:57.18 | art3mis | playing with objectdesk right now |
| 08:57.21 | art3mis | its the sexiest |
| 08:57.38 | art3mis | but the way emerge functions it screws up the windowsfx wobbly windows and stuff |
| 08:57.42 | Thunder_Child | i dont know of anything that gets rid of rclick |
| 08:57.45 | art3mis | and the rightclick menu |
| 08:57.54 | Thunder_Child | it's to usefull |
| 08:58.03 | art3mis | yeah it seems that most VWM's that exist are part of shell replacements |
| 08:58.12 | art3mis | i dont mind it |
| 08:58.29 | art3mis | but the emerge is messing with other stuff so i wanna kill it completely |
| 08:58.40 | art3mis | objectdesk rules |
| 08:58.46 | art3mis | i have the mac rolly menu thingy |
| 08:58.53 | Thunder_Child | i'm trying to remember what i used to use...but there have been so many |
| 08:58.54 | art3mis | that makes it totally worth it ;P |
| 08:59.00 | nevcairiel | is there a paladin talent overview for 2.3 somewhere? |
| 08:59.09 | art3mis | i suppose i could get bblean |
| 08:59.11 | nevcairiel | like the wowhead thing, 2.3 enabled :P |
| 08:59.25 | art3mis | and just kill everything but the rightclick menu |
| 08:59.54 | art3mis | not that ive seen |
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| 09:01.55 | art3mis | all i need is a standalone VWM |
| 09:02.17 | nevcairiel | any paladin experts that could tell me what a retri paladin can do in 2.3 for being raid-feasible? |
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| 09:02.34 | Corrodias | all the things they can do now, plus having threat reduction? |
| 09:02.36 | cncfanatics | ~seen Cidan |
| 09:02.43 | purl | cidan is currently on #wowi-lounge (5d 10h 40m 1s) #wowace (5d 10h 40m 1s). Has said a total of 1142 messages. Is idling for 2h 13m 50s, last said: 'nini'. |
| 09:02.54 | nevcairiel | Corrodias: nothing new besides the -threat? |
| 09:03.02 | cncfanatics | Cidan, ping ? :p or anything that has some java knowledge |
| 09:03.08 | cncfanatics | s/anything/anyone/ |
| 09:03.30 | Corrodias | sorry, maybe i shouldn't speak up about paladins. i didn't fully understand or remember the changes because i don't play one |
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| 09:04.53 | cncfanatics | anyone know why this class fails in it's Show method ? http://pastey.net/75471 it compiles but when I call the show method it gives me a null pointer exception |
| 09:05.43 | Corrodias | we-ell |
| 09:06.05 | Corrodias | if you have a runtime error that's a null pointer exception, i imagine you're calling .Show() on an instance that doesn't exist |
| 09:06.29 | cncfanatics | this is my main func, sec, pastying it |
| 09:06.46 | cncfanatics | http://pastey.net/75472 |
| 09:07.01 | Garoun|Loupana | being up at 4am for an EEG at 8am sucks :/ |
| 09:07.28 | cncfanatics | Corrodias , anythign wrong ? I'm kinda lost why it errors |
| 09:08.01 | Corrodias | you have the "void" return type selected for your constructor. remove it. |
| 09:08.16 | Corrodias | beyond that... |
| 09:08.44 | Corrodias | beyond that... my version of eclipse is very old. i need to update it some time. |
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| 09:09.08 | Thrae | void walker(warlock) |
| 09:09.09 | cncfanatics | it was that :/ |
| 09:09.12 | cncfanatics | just the void in the constructor |
| 09:09.14 | Corrodias | excellent |
| 09:09.14 | cncfanatics | why the heck |
| 09:09.28 | Corrodias | i guess the constructor was returning void. |
| 09:09.35 | cncfanatics | it is ? |
| 09:09.35 | Corrodias | instead of the new instance of the class |
| 09:09.39 | cncfanatics | oh wait no |
| 09:09.41 | cncfanatics | it shld return the object |
| 09:09.55 | Corrodias | i'm surprised it even let you compile that, though |
| 09:10.06 | cncfanatics | it didn't complain at all during compilation |
| 09:10.23 | Corrodias | i wonder if constructors can return whatever they want |
| 09:10.34 | cncfanatics | they should return the object logicaly ? |
| 09:11.08 | cncfanatics | btw, if I extend a class, will both the constructorof the old & the new class be called ? |
| 09:11.10 | Corrodias | well, they're not always used in order to obtain a reference to an instance of a class. sometimes they are just used to create an instance of a class. i dont know what ELSE you would want to return, but... |
| 09:11.32 | Corrodias | i don't think so |
| 09:11.44 | cncfanatics | so I'd have to call it manualy |
| 09:12.10 | Corrodias | it has been a while, but i think you have to use... super() or something like that if you want to perform the constructor of your parent class first |
| 09:12.49 | Corrodias | as the first line of your constructor |
| 09:13.25 | cncfanatics | k, lets see |
| 09:15.31 | cncfanatics | also, if I declare two constructors, one without and one with some arguments |
| 09:15.46 | cncfanatics | can I call the constructor without args inside the one without |
| 09:16.43 | Corrodias | i'd like to say no, but i really don't remember |
| 09:17.00 | cncfanatics | seems you can't, just tried |
| 09:17.09 | Corrodias | i think something you CAN do is use the no-args constructor to call the with-args constructor with some default arguments |
| 09:17.10 | cncfanatics | thanks for your help Corrodias :) |
| 09:17.20 | Corrodias | but i don't remember the syntax |
| 09:17.21 | cncfanatics | ah, thats good too |
| 09:17.50 | cncfanatics | lets ask my idiot teacher |
| 09:19.15 | Corrodias | this(args) |
| 09:19.24 | Corrodias | as the first line of the constructor |
| 09:19.35 | Corrodias | that might be how you can call the no-args one from the with-args one, too. this(). |
| 09:22.02 | cncfanatics | woo tnx |
| 09:37.09 | bleeter | gutsy's out, for those of that bent |
| 09:39.28 | Corrodias | well. good night. |
| 09:39.39 | Corrodias | ugh. stayed up way too late again. damn you, internet. |
| 09:39.44 | Corrodias | and damn my own lack of self control |
| 09:39.55 | Corrodias | so very tired |
| 09:40.17 | Thrae | I'm putting myself in Vampire mode. |
| 09:55.57 | art3mis | http://www.codedump.org/joomla/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=19&Itemid=1 |
| 09:56.01 | art3mis | okay thats pretty rad |
| 09:56.13 | art3mis | its a little vwm with no interface that you just alt-left/right through |
| 09:58.15 | MoonWolf | i like ui's |
| 09:58.29 | MoonWolf | it doesn't have to b hueg liek xbox |
| 09:58.32 | MoonWolf | but some ui is nice |
| 09:58.53 | art3mis | hehe me too |
| 09:59.05 | art3mis | but its kind of kewl and slightly powerful ;P |
| 10:00.32 | art3mis | anyone remember off hand how to make bblean display the vwm in graphics mode instead of just numbers with an arrow? |
| 10:07.22 | Srosh | What's up with the armory? >< |
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| 10:10.01 | Shadus | Can I ask a random, probably silly questing reguarding add-ons? |
| 10:10.34 | Shadus | Question, rather. Oi, it's late. |
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| 10:14.32 | Shadus | Hmm... guessing no one's awake. I'll check back later. |
| 10:14.48 | Kaso | i am awake if you want |
| 10:14.51 | Kaso | did you have a question? |
| 10:15.26 | Shadus | Yes, I'm wondering if it's possible to output the combat log in real time, rather than waiting for WoW to do it at the end. |
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| 10:15.49 | Kaso | i thought /combatlog was real-time |
| 10:16.24 | Kaso | But if it is not, then no, we (addon authors) can only transmit infomation in and out of wow upon reloadUI (relog) |
| 10:16.26 | cryogen | it only writes it when it feels like it |
| 10:16.28 | Shadus | I tested that... started the log, killed a few things, tabbed out... 0 bytes. Logged out, and then the log was populated. |
| 10:16.34 | Mr_Rabies2 | it's not realtime but within a second or so |
| 10:16.38 | Mr_Rabies2 | usually |
| 10:16.46 | cryogen | nah, its random |
| 10:16.49 | cryogen | it writes it on certain events |
| 10:16.54 | Arrowmaster | lets just call it really laggy |
| 10:16.55 | cryogen | like: GC, reload, and logout |
| 10:16.56 | Mr_Rabies2 | sometimes it'll bug out and not log for a few seconds though |
| 10:17.08 | Kaso | I know wow locks the log file when you start /combatlog doesn it |
| 10:17.30 | Mr_Rabies2 | hrm, back when i used certain tos breaking programs that read /combatlog it did it all pretty close to realtime |
| 10:17.40 | Shadus | So we're forbidden to parse that information outside the client until afterwards? |
| 10:18.05 | Mr_Rabies2 | they may have changed it back in response to said program though |
| 10:18.07 | Shadus | Anyone know the relevant section of the TOS so I can read it? |
| 10:18.08 | Kaso | Yes Shadus, they dont like real time comms out of the wow sandbox, makes it easier to do botty type stuff |
| 10:18.59 | Shadus | Damn. I was hoping to clean up my screen somewhat. Move it to an outside parser. |
| 10:19.03 | Shadus | Ah, well... |
| 10:19.59 | Kaso | Basically the part of the ToU is this; "Blizzard may, at its sole and absolute discretion, allow the use of certain third party user interfaces." basically, anything blizzard dont like us doing with Addons, its against ToU |
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| 10:21.45 | Shadus | So where's the list of what they don't like? I'm just trying to recreate an accepted add on on another screen. |
| 10:22.08 | Kaso | Anything you can do with the WoW API, they like |
| 10:22.18 | Kaso | anything you cannot do with the wow API, they dont like |
| 10:22.39 | art3mis | anything sneaky you can do in wowapi that results in the user not having to actually touch the machine to cast fight etc they dont ;P |
| 10:22.57 | Shadus | No, no... nothing like that. |
| 10:23.04 | Kaso | Why can't you have your wow window over your second monitor and use the second monitor to just have a bunch of addons drawn to it |
| 10:23.08 | Kaso | a fair few people do that |
| 10:23.09 | Shadus | I just want my combat parser on another screen. |
| 10:23.25 | Shadus | Because it stretches my center view point over. |
| 10:24.05 | Shadus | And because I'm not running two monitors, I'm running a laptop beside my machine. |
| 10:24.25 | Kaso | you can change the shape of the 3d rendered area (the Worldframe) so it only takes up half of the actual wow window (thus 1 monitor) |
| 10:24.27 | Shadus | Ultimately my goal was to read the combat log over the network, parse it, and display it. |
| 10:25.08 | Kaso | Im afraid you're stuck waiting till combatlog file updates then |
| 10:25.37 | Shadus | Which is not as useful as having a real time add on. Defeating the purpose. Curse you, WoW gods! |
| 10:26.26 | Kaso | Sometimes legitimate uses get disabled in the prevention of exploitative things, sad, but we gotta just deal with it |
| 10:26.49 | Arrowmaster | i wonder if you could use some sort of vnc program combined with faking a second monitor |
| 10:27.01 | Shadus | No, I understand that. I would prefer to be limited in my own hairbrained scheme than deal with hacks. |
| 10:27.09 | art3mis | arrow nope |
| 10:27.31 | art3mis | technically it wouldnt read on the orignal that there was a second monitor |
| 10:28.07 | Arrowmaster | which is why you fake it |
| 10:28.34 | Arrowmaster | massive driver hax required probalby |
| 10:28.36 | art3mis | yeah but if you could "fake having a second monitor" why bother with the vnc? |
| 10:28.53 | art3mis | hehe |
| 10:28.57 | Arrowmaster | well how else would you display it on a second computer? |
| 10:29.12 | art3mis | vncs dont care about 2nd monitors |
| 10:29.30 | art3mis | in all the ones ive used anyways they only care about the main |
| 10:29.35 | Arrowmaster | vnc hax too then since you only care about the 2nd monitor |
| 10:29.41 | art3mis | heh |
| 10:29.43 | art3mis | OR |
| 10:29.51 | Arrowmaster | the easy way |
| 10:29.56 | Shadus | Okay... too many hax. Head exploding now. |
| 10:29.58 | Arrowmaster | buy a 2nd monitor |
| 10:30.00 | art3mis | you could buy a usb display adapter |
| 10:30.07 | art3mis | and plug in a spare monitor |
| 10:30.10 | art3mis | tada! |
| 10:30.32 | art3mis | hardware > software |
| 10:30.35 | Arrowmaster | usb display adapter? dont all graphics cards come with 2 outputs now? |
| 10:30.40 | Kaso | you should be able to specify that you want to connect to the second monitor on vnc |
| 10:30.42 | art3mis | most yeah |
| 10:30.46 | art3mis | but if yers didnt |
| 10:30.52 | art3mis | or if you wanted 3 |
| 10:30.53 | art3mis | ;) |
| 10:31.01 | art3mis | the usb adapters are pretty neat though |
| 10:31.06 | Kaso | at least, when i last used it, i could connect to computername:0 or computername:1 for different monitors |
| 10:31.11 | Shadus | My computer doesn't come with a graphics card... I feel noobish. |
| 10:31.21 | art3mis | umm |
| 10:31.24 | Arrowmaster | hmm i would consider 3 monitors if i get a replacement for this lcd |
| 10:31.25 | art3mis | yes it does ;P |
| 10:31.34 | Shadus | No card... just a built in chip. |
| 10:31.41 | Arrowmaster | although the crt im using right now for a 2nd monitor is sooo bad |
| 10:31.47 | art3mis | you should still have an agp slot |
| 10:31.51 | Shadus | Nope. |
| 10:31.53 | art3mis | if you bought it in the last 4 years |
| 10:31.53 | Arrowmaster | colors are so broken |
| 10:32.00 | art3mis | is it s huttle? |
| 10:32.01 | Shadus | PCI ftw. |
| 10:32.05 | Arrowmaster | hey now i still have an agp card |
| 10:32.08 | art3mis | err a shuttle |
| 10:32.25 | Arrowmaster | built this system in 2004 |
| 10:32.26 | Shadus | E-machines. Good processor... crappy motherboard. |
| 10:32.29 | art3mis | Arrowmaster: i still have my agp x800xl and my rage128 aiw ;P |
| 10:32.41 | bleeter | a lot of business comps don't even have AGP slots |
| 10:32.45 | Arrowmaster | agp x800xtpe =) |
| 10:32.51 | bleeter | they're only meant for spreadsheets and wordprocessing |
| 10:32.55 | art3mis | got a 1950xl now |
| 10:32.58 | art3mis | err xt |
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| 10:33.11 | bleeter | so why bother with the additional cost? insurance will pay for replacement if needs be |
| 10:33.24 | art3mis | i havent seen many in recent years that didnt have em dual unless it was a mini atx |
| 10:33.40 | art3mis | dual == onboard+agp |
| 10:33.47 | Shadus | I keep meaning to build a proper gaming rig. Unfortunately... I can't seem to find a parts vendor that takes in game gold. |
| 10:34.00 | art3mis | laugh |
| 10:34.09 | art3mis | sell yer ingame gold for cash! |
| 10:34.13 | art3mis | then buy the parts |
| 10:34.17 | art3mis | and move to china |
| 10:34.18 | art3mis | heh |
| 10:34.34 | art3mis | my desktop is sexy now |
| 10:34.34 | Shadus | Right... I'm already asking questions that violate the TOS. I like my account, thank you very much. |
| 10:35.00 | art3mis | running bbleanpage for vwm, and objectdesk for a mac bottom menu thingy |
| 10:35.06 | art3mis | its soooooo clean |
| 10:35.11 | art3mis | yet totally functional |
| 10:35.34 | art3mis | if only there was a compiz cube switcher for it ;P |
| 10:35.41 | bleeter | heh |
| 10:36.30 | art3mis | stardock has a neat general compiz selection thugh |
| 10:36.36 | art3mis | like wobbly windows and stuff |
| 10:36.39 | Shadus | Anyways... I shall go ponder how to do this without violating the all knowing TOS. Night folks. Thanks for the info. |
| 10:36.55 | art3mis | do what? parse it remotely? |
| 10:37.31 | Shadus | Well... I can't do that in real time... so I'm going to have to find an ingame way of doing it that's functional for my screen and then saves it to a file at /quit |
| 10:37.39 | art3mis | you could make it save the data as a variable |
| 10:37.51 | art3mis | except that data is only written and read on laods and reloads |
| 10:38.03 | art3mis | shadus: uyou could viewport |
| 10:38.12 | art3mis | that would solve it on a single monitor |
| 10:38.12 | Shadus | explain? |
| 10:38.22 | art3mis | viewport alters the size of the viewable world |
| 10:38.32 | art3mis | essentially creating a frame around the world |
| 10:38.45 | Shadus | Right... but my problem is even at 32"s I have too much data on a single screen. |
| 10:38.57 | art3mis | scales down the size etc.. and allows you to have an unclutters view but all yer addons and stuff function in fullscreen |
| 10:39.19 | art3mis | wait |
| 10:39.32 | art3mis | you have an emachine with no secondary video or slot but a 32" screen? |
| 10:39.36 | Shadus | Yup. |
| 10:39.49 | art3mis | so yer only screwed by screen res |
| 10:39.50 | Arrowmaster | .... |
| 10:39.52 | Shadus | I min/max. |
| 10:40.04 | art3mis | what res can you get? |
| 10:40.22 | Shadus | 1280/768 |
| 10:40.33 | art3mis | thats it? |
| 10:40.36 | Shadus | Yup |
| 10:40.39 | art3mis | .64 scale? |
| 10:41.03 | Arrowmaster | cheap ass monitor |
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| 10:41.14 | Arrowmaster | my 20" lcd does 1600x1200 |
| 10:41.15 | art3mis | its a 32" tv ;P |
| 10:41.18 | Shadus | Technically, it's not a monitor. |
| 10:41.24 | Arrowmaster | oh |
| 10:41.27 | Arrowmaster | one of those |
| 10:41.30 | Shadus | Yeah. |
| 10:41.50 | art3mis | tv res always sucks |
| 10:41.51 | Arrowmaster | wait |
| 10:42.01 | Arrowmaster | 32" and you didnt get a 1080p? |
| 10:42.10 | art3mis | my 40" bravia has a res thats lower than my 20"ws |
| 10:42.11 | Arrowmaster | fail |
| 10:42.32 | Shadus | Hey, it's 4 years old. It was glorious when I got it. |
| 10:42.36 | art3mis | even at 1080 it's still no guarantee that it can do higher than 1440 |
| 10:43.09 | art3mis | but i bet it would look REALLY pretty on my bravia ;P |
| 10:43.29 | Shadus | Anyways... time to pass out. |
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| 14:07.47 | TS|Skrom | - Client spell cast requests are now sent to the server even if your |
| 14:07.47 | TS|Skrom | player is already casting another spell. This eliminates the need |
| 14:07.47 | TS|Skrom | for /stopcasting in macros to compensate for latency. -- wuwu? |
| 14:09.07 | Lopeppeppy | Woo-woo, TS|Skrom. |
| 14:09.23 | Lopeppeppy | It's not clear how deep that request list goes, but the feature is very interesting. |
| 14:09.34 | TS|Skrom | - Pets will try to get behind their targets when engaging in melee |
| 14:09.35 | TS|Skrom | combat. -- Hopefully this will be limited to when the pet is not the aggro target XD |
| 14:09.47 | Lopeppeppy | Saw and wondered about that too. |
| 14:10.01 | TS|Skrom | I can just see the wild dance now XD |
| 14:10.46 | Lopeppeppy | The rogues will love having to constantly shift where they are versus pet tank, if there's a magical merry go round happening. |
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| 14:10.52 | TS|Skrom | not that I do much warsong these days but: Dropping the Flag in a battleground will now result in a debuff that |
| 14:10.53 | TS|Skrom | will not allow you to pick up the flag again for 3 seconds. wow! |
| 14:11.22 | deltron | whoa |
| 14:11.24 | deltron | nice :D |
| 14:11.34 | deltron | there's a lot of annoying exploit type stuff with that |
| 14:11.45 | deltron | ppl dropping and re-picking up flag all the time |
| 14:12.43 | Lopeppeppy | Yup. |
| 14:13.03 | TS|Skrom | I know it was always frustrating for me, I"d be chasing some rogue and get a wing clip off only to have him vanish and grab the flag before I could even see he'd dropped it. While I'm stopping to pick up the dropped flag he's already taken off again |
| 14:21.49 | TS|Skrom | changing starshards to a dot will be nice for all three of the night elf priests |
| 14:24.27 | deltron | lol |
| 14:24.33 | deltron | my coworker is a NE priest |
| 14:25.05 | TS|Skrom | lol I kid, I've got a night elf and a dwarf personally but prior to this patch if you weren't a dwarf it was almost /palmface |
| 14:25.53 | TS|Skrom | priest and shaman are the only classes I've not seen 30 with (26 and 22 respectively) maybe after this patch will be my time XD |
| 14:26.49 | TS|Skrom | - Seed of Corruption detonation will now obey line of sight. -- No more pulling extra rooms in kara! I've not seen this personally but heard enough friends gripe about it D |
| 14:27.31 | Lopeppeppy | Oh, gods, it's hellish TS|Skrom. |
| 14:28.48 | TS|Skrom | - Tactical Mastery: This talent also now grants greatly increased |
| 14:28.49 | TS|Skrom | threat from Mortal Strike and Bloodthirst when in Defensive Stance. -- So much for helping with the tank shortage |
| 14:29.01 | TS|Skrom | These people don't know what defensive stance is in the first place |
| 14:31.28 | TS|Skrom | All old world dungeons have had their loot revisited. Players will |
| 14:31.28 | TS|Skrom | now find that all loot dropped inside instances will be of Superior |
| 14:31.28 | TS|Skrom | quality. -- Wow... all? |
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| 14:32.12 | Lopeppeppy | Well... I think if you take off the capital S, darlin'. |
| 14:32.23 | Lopeppeppy | They've improved a LOT of things, like taking the Agility off of cloth drops, etc. |
| 14:32.36 | TS|Skrom | take off the capital S? |
| 14:32.42 | TS|Skrom | ohh Superior |
| 14:32.53 | Lopeppeppy | Like, superior quality, better than before. Versus all being greens and blues and so forth. |
| 14:33.15 | TS|Skrom | so you are saying it's not all blues now? |
| 14:33.55 | Lopeppeppy | Nah, I think there are still greens and greys for loot, but some of the boss-greens were upgraded, etc. |
| 14:34.11 | Lopeppeppy | Like I think Cookie's Tenderizer is neater now, etc. |
| 14:34.28 | TS|Skrom | I'm not talking about random junk, but yeah like are all 3 of smite's drops blue now? would be my quetion |
| 14:35.09 | Lopeppeppy | Perhaps so, TS|Skrom. I've seen loot lists on curse-gaming and wow insider, etc. I don't remember all of the lower-level loot changes, just that they really did a good job making the twinks cream in their jeans. |
| 14:35.21 | TS|Skrom | lol |
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| 15:23.43 | Shirik|Ecole | wtf is biketoberfest? anyone know? |
| 15:25.01 | Lopeppeppy | Making fun of Oktoberfest, but it's for motorcycles or little kid bikes? |
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| 15:26.25 | Shirik|Ecole | dunno, just sick of campus safety spamming me every time anything is going on |
| 15:26.39 | Shirik|Ecole | "The Safety Department reminds everyone that Biketoberfest activities occur this weekend throughout the greater Daytona Beach area. Please remember to use extra caution while driving. Traffic patterns will include more congestion and delays, so remember to allow extra travel time." |
| 15:26.45 | Shirik|Ecole | seriously I have enough spam as it is |
| 15:30.05 | Lopeppeppy | There's a sort of "bike to work" movement on my campus this month, I expect there's a national green-awareness event going on somewhere. |
| 15:31.41 | Valaron|Work | Yeah. |
| 15:31.50 | Valaron|Work | Unfortunately, it's been raining. |
| 15:31.53 | Valaron|Work | Here |
| 15:37.41 | Lopeppeppy | Rain, fog, drizzle, cold, wet, yuk. |
| 15:38.08 | Lopeppeppy | I live way too far to bike in anyway, sadly. I don't even know anyone in my area to carpool, either. I fail at green. |
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| 15:41.21 | cncfanatics | yo ppl |
| 15:41.31 | Shirik|Ecole | no Lopeppeppy, I think this is motorcycles |
| 15:41.41 | Shirik|Ecole | "We sometimes see increases in the theft of motorcycles, so be sure to lock and secure your bike. Resident students should attach their motorcycles to the security posts located in motorcycle parking areas next to residence hall facilities. Students should take advantage of our Lease-A-Lock program, available in Parking Services." |
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| 15:42.41 | Shirik|Ecole | and yeah, I typically do bike to school now because there's no fricking parking |
| 15:42.44 | Shirik|Ecole | it's annoying |
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| 15:43.18 | Lopeppeppy | Whee, vroom-vroom motorcycles. |
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| 15:45.10 | Shirik|Ecole | annoying as hell |
| 15:45.12 | Shirik|Ecole | too loud |
| 15:46.42 | Lopeppeppy | Muffler burns. |
| 15:49.09 | cncfanatics | ~seen Iriel |
| 15:49.11 | purl | iriel <n=Iriel@adsl-71-158-244-138.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowi-lounge, 11h 59m 52s ago, saying: 'reload a non-commentary game, should be back then'. |
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| 16:03.59 | |Jelly| | !c us velen wirlee |
| 16:04.04 | ThraeBot | |Jelly|: Wirlee, Level 15 Gnome Warrior (6/0/0). 499 HP; 1194 Armour; 121 AP; 18.300 Melee DPS; 6.84% melee crit; 5.54% dodge; 4.88% block; 10 arcane resist (+10);[[ TBR: 100 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/2bwzd5 ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/33ozyx ][ Updated: Thu Oct 18 12:06:47 2007 EST ]] |
| 16:04.38 | Lopeppeppy | Baby tankitty |
| 16:05.02 | zenzelezz | ..? |
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| 16:22.28 | Industrial | http://www.wowwiki.com/Hallow's_End |
| 16:22.31 | Industrial | is this up to date? |
| 16:25.52 | Arrowmaster | dont think so |
| 16:26.14 | Arrowmaster | no info on http://wowwiki.com/Headless_Horseman |
| 16:26.58 | Industrial | I did the fire quest in razor hill |
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| 16:27.04 | Industrial | oo! go to the other villages, right. |
| 16:27.29 | Elkano | what is the benefit of the fire quests? |
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| 16:28.31 | Lopeppeppy | Do you not get reputation rewards this year, Elkano? |
| 16:28.56 | Elkano | maybe |
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| 16:29.56 | Industrial | I dunno, I just did them. Gave me some xp too :P |
| 16:30.01 | Industrial | !c eu grim batol seryan |
| 16:30.03 | ThraeBot | Industrial: Seryan, Level 44 Troll Hunter (35/0/0). 1704 HP; 1635 Mana; 74 mana regen; 50.500 Melee DPS; 2.75% melee crit; 371 RAP; 74.70 Ranged DPS; 6.23% ranged crit; 8.28% dodge;[[ TBR: 461 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/yrw6xs ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/2n8t5r ][ Updated: Thu Oct 18 12:32:49 2007 EST ]] |
| 16:30.14 | Industrial | I want a broom mount, but I dont know if they have em for level 40 |
| 16:30.20 | Industrial | would be fun |
| 16:30.47 | Lopeppeppy | That's right, all that starts today. *le sigh* Must pack for LARP though. |
| 16:31.27 | zenzelezz | LARP? |
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| 16:31.36 | Industrial | I already see people with broom mounts |
| 16:31.46 | Industrial | and headless thingy's helmets |
| 16:33.04 | Intangir | !te us Mug'thol 2v2 Fallen Ones |
| 16:33.05 | ThraeBot | Intangir: Name: Fallen Ones (2v2); Vengeance (Horde); Rank: 433; Rating: 1993; Last Season's Rank: 1845; This Season: 155/273 (57%) (Won/Played); This Week: 0/0 (0%); Points: ~705. [[ Link: http://tinyurl.com/25ho6r ]] |
| 16:34.03 | Intangir | i think his points are inacurate |
| 16:34.51 | Industrial | !vs eu grim batol seryan eu grim batol Otravi |
| 16:34.53 | ThraeBot | Industrial: Seryan vs Otravi! Otravi has +26 lvls on Seryan (44 vs 70); A L44 hunter and a L70 rogue square off!; 35/0/0 vs 15/41/5; Otravi wins by 1763 TBRs! ***OWNED TO THE EXTREME!!*** |
| 16:35.00 | Industrial | haste: ^ |
| 16:35.01 | Industrial | lols |
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| 16:35.28 | Intangir | Thrae: your points for arena teams are inaccurate |
| 16:36.44 | Industrial | "He will return roughly in 1 hour." |
| 16:36.46 | Intangir | !vs us Mug'thol Intangir eu grim batol Otravi |
| 16:36.47 | Industrial | whats this? |
| 16:36.49 | ThraeBot | Intangir: Intangir vs Otravi! Two 70 rogues square off!; 23/0/38 vs 15/41/5; Intangir wins by 411 TBRs! ***OWNED!*** |
| 16:36.53 | Industrial | a headless horseman quest? |
| 16:36.57 | Industrial | is there a level req? |
| 16:37.32 | AnduinLothar | 70 |
| 16:37.40 | Industrial | :( |
| 16:40.38 | Kandoko | Heard HH is heroic boss difficulty? The prt looks cool thou |
| 16:40.46 | Kandoko | *pet |
| 16:41.09 | Lopeppeppy | Does anyone know if he spawns in the outdoors, or in the Scarlet Monastery Instance graveyard? Makes a difference to me.... |
| 16:41.23 | Kandoko | In the GY |
| 16:42.38 | Lopeppeppy | Sweet. So he can't be camped, you can zone in and just grab him for yourself. That's so much nicer. |
| 16:47.02 | zenzelezz | not quite, need a few mates |
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| 16:49.32 | Lopeppeppy | Well, yes, but the mob will *be* there when we get there, as opposed to the Greench or I don't know how many other holiday spawn-camped stupidity things. |
| 16:49.49 | zenzelezz | good point |
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| 17:09.06 | cncfanatics | anyone have a clue why GetCursorInfo is nil when you have a pet action on the cursor ? |
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| 17:13.32 | Fisker- | is "Your mother" an accepted answer? |
| 17:13.37 | deltron | lol |
| 17:14.53 | cncfanatics | Fisker-, ur humour gets weaker every day |
| 17:14.58 | cncfanatics | now, anyone ? :p |
| 17:15.33 | Fisker- | oh u |
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| 17:22.01 | MentalPower|Away | cncfanatics: it might be a bug |
| 17:23.05 | cncfanatics | MentalPower, u think it is ? |
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| 17:34.04 | Fisker- | cncfanatics |
| 17:34.05 | Fisker- | i |
| 17:34.06 | Fisker- | hate |
| 17:34.07 | Fisker- | you |
| 17:34.09 | Fisker- | I WANT BARBIE SHIELD |
| 17:34.53 | Lopeppeppy | I want Halloween Goth Barbie with real removable fangs. |
| 17:40.50 | Shirik|Ecole | I lol'ed |
| 17:40.53 | Shirik|Ecole | <3 Lopeppeppy |
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| 17:44.47 | Lopeppeppy | *kisskiss* |
| 17:53.06 | art3mis | has the helloween stuff been loaded? |
| 17:53.40 | Lopeppeppy | Yups. |
| 17:53.47 | art3mis | eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee |
| 17:53.58 | art3mis | im sad the brooms are one shot use though |
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| 17:54.13 | art3mis | there has to be an epic one that isnt |
| 17:55.03 | stavmar | art3mis: some of the brooms last all 14 days of the event |
| 17:55.22 | art3mis | i want one forever ;) |
| 17:55.30 | stavmar | dont we all |
| 17:55.34 | art3mis | i'll just never dismount ;P |
| 17:55.38 | art3mis | thatll show em! |
| 17:56.14 | art3mis | showem that im obessivly crazy about having a broom |
| 17:56.33 | zenzelezz | you like a long hard one between the legs? |
| 17:56.35 | art3mis | bblean+bbpager+objectdesk == win |
| 17:56.44 | art3mis | zenzelezz: it's a rare day when i dont ;P |
| 17:57.32 | Lopeppeppy | I still have Valentine's candy... |
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| 17:57.50 | art3mis | hehe i logged into one of my low level alts the other day and im still a bat from last year |
| 17:58.00 | Lopeppeppy | *laugh*( |
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| 18:03.08 | Intangir | http://www.vajoe.com/candidate_calculator.html |
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| 18:16.38 | art3mis | Mr. Teeth, Mr.Teeth, Mr.Teeth! |
| 18:17.42 | art3mis | i dotn think ive laughed at a machinima so hard as that episode |
| 18:17.48 | Lin | Intangir: hi there.. |
| 18:17.50 | Lin | Cidan: hi! |
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| 18:19.52 | Shirik|Ecole | Lin: hi! |
| 18:20.02 | Lin | Shirik|Ecole: hi there |
| 18:21.26 | Cairenn | oh, hey - Cidan - bug report? |
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| 18:24.56 | Shirik|Ecole | oh, hey - Cairenn - hi! |
| 18:25.08 | Cairenn | hi |
| 18:25.45 | Shirik|Ecole | sorry, random |
| 18:26.24 | Cairenn | hehehe, no worries |
| 18:27.05 | Cairenn | It was my mistake anyway, I saw Cidan's name and thought he was talking, didn't realize he was just being talked at |
| 18:27.22 | art3mis | he's always talked at though |
| 18:27.30 | art3mis | we call it humouring him. |
| 18:27.49 | Lunessa | STATION! |
| 18:28.12 | Shirik|Ecole | Lunessa! Invite meh! |
| 18:28.31 | Lunessa | Shirik|Ecole: You need to log the f on. |
| 18:29.02 | Lunessa | I'm on from 11pm to 3am Central every damned day. And longer on Friday, Sat and Sun |
| 18:29.26 | Lunessa | Yes. It's true. I have no life. |
| 18:32.32 | deltron | lol |
| 18:32.47 | art3mis | dont feel bad |
| 18:32.55 | art3mis | you dont have boobies either but we still love you |
| 18:33.05 | deltron | i'm on from like 5pm - midnight m-thu, all day sat/sun :P |
| 18:33.25 | Lunessa | LOL - true, I don't have boobies. |
| 18:33.49 | Lunessa | Though, I really need to get about finding a pair I can 'borrow' on a regular basis. |
| 18:34.40 | Lunessa | WTB: Boobies. Paying extremely well. Excellent treatment given. |
| 18:35.02 | buu | Lunessa: This can be arranged. |
| 18:35.13 | zenzelezz | why do you want birds? Cats are so much better |
| 18:35.40 | Lunessa | It usually can. It's been being arranged that way since before recorded history. ;) |
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| 18:36.33 | art3mis | why do birds, suddenly appear.... everytime.... you are near???? they're like meeeeeeee they long to beeeeeee close to youuuuuuuuu |
| 18:38.06 | Lopeppeppy | Don't step on Karen, man. |
| 18:38.32 | Cairenn | ? |
| 18:38.42 | Lunessa | Oh, Butchering the Carpenters. |
| 18:45.30 | Lopeppeppy | Semi-quote from the Ghost Rider movie too. |
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| 19:04.26 | Cidan | Cairenn: ping |
| 19:04.28 | Cidan | :D |
| 19:04.36 | Cairenn | pong |
| 19:04.41 | Cidan | yay! |
| 19:05.02 | Intangir | Lin: yo |
| 19:05.19 | Intangir | did anyone try out that candidate thing? |
| 19:05.21 | Cidan | Cairenn: So er, how do I go about this? Before we report this, can you test one thing? |
| 19:05.34 | Cairenn | I can try |
| 19:05.56 | Intangir | i got a glimpse of SOME of the vengeful gear |
| 19:06.03 | Intangir | for some reason the mainhand weapons werent up |
| 19:06.07 | Intangir | only offhands |
| 19:06.13 | Intangir | oh wait, slcier had main hand but no offhand |
| 19:06.24 | Cidan | Do you have AIM/MSN or something? Or do you prefer IRC? |
| 19:07.17 | Cairenn | aim = cairenneqi, icq=39655841, gtalk=cairennmmoi@gmail.com |
| 19:07.20 | zenzelezz | all of a sudden Cairenn gets a dozen "... has added you to his contact list" |
| 19:08.59 | ScytheBlade1 | Wow, that's retardeld depressing.. I start Portal up |
| 19:09.08 | ScytheBlade1 | "The portal will open in three.. two.. one.." |
| 19:09.11 | ScytheBlade1 | And the game crashes. |
| 19:11.25 | Cide | verify game cache integrity? |
| 19:12.41 | ScytheBlade1 | If I had to guess, it's wine |
| 19:12.43 | ScytheBlade1 | But why not |
| 19:13.44 | foxlit | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:14.46 | Intangir | whats portal? |
| 19:14.50 | Cide | Intangir: wow |
| 19:15.08 | Intangir | what portal? |
| 19:15.12 | Cide | http://youtube.com/watch?v=oeUjVkJ7seY |
| 19:16.04 | Intangir | hrm its not loading the flash player |
| 19:16.29 | ScytheBlade1 | http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=9572 |
| 19:16.30 | ScytheBlade1 | Bah |
| 19:16.56 | Intangir | cool] |
| 19:17.04 | Intangir | is this a game or a mod? |
| 19:17.45 | Cide | game |
| 19:18.12 | Intangir | that is cool? |
| 19:18.16 | Intangir | imean it is |
| 19:18.38 | Intangir | who makes it? |
| 19:18.50 | buu | Valve |
| 19:19.00 | Kaydeethree | google "orange box" |
| 19:19.11 | Intangir | oh im getting that |
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| 19:19.17 | Cairenn | go for it - if I was worried about it, I wouldn't have put it in channel, I would have put it in a PM, like I did with my MSN info |
| 19:19.30 | cncfanatics | heh |
| 19:19.54 | Lunessa | Just added you to my AIM then. :) |
| 19:19.54 | ScytheBlade1 | Well, it validated correctly. |
| 19:20.10 | Intangir | im goimg to put you on porn spam bot lists |
| 19:20.22 | cncfanatics | they won't get through the gmail filter |
| 19:20.40 | Intangir | night elf porn |
| 19:20.50 | Intangir | trust me you will thank me |
| 19:22.05 | Intangir | they fully nerf noggenfogger |
| 19:22.30 | Intangir | its like 15 second slow fall |
| 19:22.38 | Intangir | 2minute cooldown |
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| 19:27.26 | Intangir | lets have a contest |
| 19:27.31 | Intangir | who has the lowest ICQ # in here? |
| 19:28.38 | Cairenn | my original was in the 1000's, but I stopped using it for a long time, then couldn't remember what it was so just said hell with it and made a new account |
| 19:29.18 | Intangir | my first one was 6 digits |
| 19:29.21 | zenzelezz | 10859814 |
| 19:29.26 | zenzelezz | had a lower one on our first |
| 19:29.32 | Intangir | 2614802 |
| 19:29.43 | Lunessa | I've made and forgotten more ICQ accounts than I want to think about. |
| 19:29.46 | foxlit | 0! |
| 19:29.49 | Intangir | i only made 2 |
| 19:29.52 | Intangir | forgot the first one |
| 19:29.53 | foxlit | My ICQ account does not exist. |
| 19:30.18 | Intangir | my aim is Intangir2003 |
| 19:30.18 | Intangir | hehe |
| 19:30.23 | Intangir | i made it in 2003, im not 4 years old |
| 19:30.52 | ScytheBlade1 | And it locked up again |
| 19:30.53 | ScytheBlade1 | :/ |
| 19:31.16 | foxlit | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:31.27 | foxlit | Get a normal windows install, yeah? :) |
| 19:31.31 | ScytheBlade1 | No? |
| 19:31.33 | zenzelezz | wonder how long it's been since I logged on to ICQ |
| 19:31.51 | Intangir | ScytheBlade1: what are you playing it with? |
| 19:32.15 | Intangir | zenzelezz: im always logged on it |
| 19:32.17 | ScytheBlade1 | Industrial, wine |
| 19:32.23 | Intangir | but i ahve towonder when the last time anyone actually messaged me on it |
| 19:32.27 | Intangir | probably several years |
| 19:32.42 | Intangir | ScytheBlade1: i tried valve in cedega and wine |
| 19:32.46 | Intangir | i dont remember which one worked best |
| 19:32.53 | Intangir | both sorta worked, one had more issues than the other |
| 19:32.58 | ScytheBlade1 | heh |
| 19:33.09 | Intangir | but it was playable |
| 19:33.14 | Intangir | i played thru all of halflife2 on one of them.. |
| 19:33.21 | Intangir | and play dod and CS:S sometimes |
| 19:33.29 | ScytheBlade1 | This is a recently introduced bug |
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| 19:43.12 | Intangir | im getting that orange box |
| 19:43.27 | Intangir | its got episode 1, 2, the new TFC and portal then too.. thats cool |
| 19:43.46 | Thunder_Child | i think i am sticking with getting portal |
| 19:43.58 | dreamss | lol |
| 19:44.18 | dreamss | http://www.escapistmagazine.com/articles/view/editorials/zeropunctuation/2541-Zero-Punctuation-The-Orange-Box <-- seen this? |
| 19:44.30 | foxlit | oh, wednesday |
| 19:44.33 | foxlit | Missed it |
| 19:45.08 | Intangir | oh boy, im gonna check it out, i like those zero puncuation things; 0 i saw the one on world ofwarcraft, it was hilarious |
| 19:47.14 | Intangir | while zombies jump out to claw at your guilies? |
| 19:47.23 | Thunder_Child | shoes |
| 19:47.29 | Industrial | < ScytheBlade1> Industrial, wine |
| 19:47.31 | Industrial | wuh what? |
| 19:47.36 | Industrial | I prefer beer |
| 19:48.43 | Intangir | use gun on man ;) |
| 19:49.33 | Intangir | force feedback cod piece ;) |
| 19:49.34 | Intangir | hahahahaha |
| 19:49.37 | Intangir | this guy is awesome |
| 19:49.41 | Thunder_Child | wow, never seen zero punctuation before....he is great |
| 19:49.53 | ScytheBlade1 | Industrial, oh, sorry, that was a mistab |
| 19:50.21 | Intangir | ok im definately getting it then |
| 19:51.03 | Intangir | lol i didnt realize there was someone in here named Industrial |
| 19:51.12 | Intangir | i thought you were describing some sort of private build or theme |
| 19:51.37 | bleeter | ScytheBlade1: have you disabled the community foo? I believe that's usually quite problematic under Wine |
| 19:51.39 | Industrial | Been here for years tho :3 |
| 19:51.44 | Intangir | i saw one on world of warcraft, a zero puncuation i mean, it was freaking hilarious |
| 19:52.00 | ScytheBlade1 | bleeter, I have, that's the first thing I did actually, even before I read the bug reports |
| 19:52.13 | Intangir | disabled community? |
| 19:52.13 | Industrial | that flash part is all whie for me :( no movie |
| 19:52.15 | Intangir | whats that mean? |
| 19:52.25 | Industrial | white* |
| 19:52.25 | bleeter | ScytheBlade1: damn :( |
| 19:52.26 | dreamss | i cant find the zp on wow |
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| 19:52.31 | ScytheBlade1 | bleeter, you're telling me. |
| 19:52.32 | Intangir | Industrial: reload? what are you on? |
| 19:52.40 | Industrial | xp/ff |
| 19:52.50 | Industrial | asdf works on xp/ie7, how lame |
| 19:53.31 | bleeter | ScytheBlade1: I'm still trying to work out why the hell I'm not getting proper acceleration on my lappy's X1700, I'm at the stage of disassembling my ACPI and trying to re-code it as well as booting and tricking the ACPI subsystem into thinking I'm running WinXP |
| 19:53.58 | Cidan | is it just me or is Wine getting better than Cedega lately? |
| 19:54.00 | bleeter | ScytheBlade1: all behaviour's pointing towards an ACPI type bug |
| 19:54.07 | bleeter | Cidan: not just you |
| 19:54.19 | Cidan | bleeter: fglrx isn't working? |
| 19:54.27 | bleeter | Cidan: there was a massive effort over summer to improve certain aspects of Wine ;) |
| 19:54.41 | MoonWolf | it was quite an effective effort |
| 19:54.55 | MoonWolf | ofcourse cedega is going to incorporate those changes soon enough |
| 19:54.56 | buu | Goddamn it. |
| 19:54.58 | bleeter | Cidan: nope, with the essential bits of your xorg.conf, I'm still getting 0 accel, and hardlocks after a small amount of time |
| 19:55.03 | buu | Dying in midair is really annoying. |
| 19:55.13 | ScytheBlade1 | bleeter, NV card here... and you're saying this is probably ACPI related? |
| 19:55.27 | bleeter | ScytheBlade1: no, I'm saying my problems are ACPI related and it's pissing me off |
| 19:55.34 | bleeter | s/are/might be/ |
| 19:55.39 | ScytheBlade1 | bleeter, ahh, haha |
| 19:55.42 | bleeter | 'coz I know my ACPI's buggy |
| 19:55.42 | Cidan | huh |
| 19:55.47 | ScytheBlade1 | bleeter, that sucks a lot harder than my problem :/ |
| 19:55.55 | Cidan | have you tried a clean 7.10 install just for kicks? |
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| 19:56.21 | Intangir | Industrial: did you install a flash plugin for firefox? |
| 19:56.37 | bleeter | I was running 7.10 before I took a look at whether the radeonhd recognised my card/display |
| 19:56.45 | Cidan | That's so odd. |
| 19:56.56 | Cidan | It works right out of the box on my crap laptop |
| 19:57.00 | Intangir | im on 7.04 |
| 19:57.08 | Cidan | even xgl is perfect |
| 19:57.08 | bleeter | for the record, radeonhd are in PLL hell at the moment, will take them some time, then they'll be looking at getting the tasty foo happening, but there's no point until they sort out the PLL stuff |
| 19:57.10 | Intangir | use 7.04 at home too, all the steam games ive tried work |
| 19:57.12 | Industrial | Intangir: .. |
| 19:57.14 | Cidan | no more config file fixing. |
| 19:57.22 | Cidan | Intangir: use 7.10, it's worth it |
| 19:57.29 | Intangir | i will soon probably |
| 19:57.43 | Cidan | I got the RC two days ago to beat the rush |
| 19:57.44 | krka | gutsy FTW |
| 19:57.51 | krka | i got the beta two weeks before |
| 19:57.55 | Cidan | I liked it so much I deleted Vista |
| 19:57.57 | krka | it was really stable |
| 19:57.57 | Cidan | :D |
| 19:58.30 | bleeter | hang on |
| 19:58.34 | bleeter | I thought something was wrong |
| 19:58.41 | bleeter | you're talking about gutsy? |
| 19:58.52 | krka | then i can dig it |
| 19:58.53 | deltron | lol |
| 19:59.00 | deltron | how you liking it so far? |
| 19:59.16 | Cidan | Yes, it was a problem with XFS that I had |
| 19:59.18 | Cidan | moved over to JFS |
| 19:59.21 | Cidan | works just fine |
| 19:59.31 | Cidan | Drivers, desktop effects |
| 19:59.34 | Cidan | even fixed my 8800 bug |
| 19:59.36 | krka | restricted manager <3 |
| 19:59.40 | deltron | you playing wow on it? |
| 19:59.42 | Cidan | where if I moved a window, I would go to 100% CPU |
| 19:59.48 | Cidan | Yep, works just fine |
| 19:59.55 | krka | networkmanager is awesome |
| 19:59.57 | Cidan | hell, I play LotRO and Steam on it |
| 20:00.06 | deltron | through wine? |
| 20:00.09 | bleeter | yes |
| 20:00.10 | Cidan | Yep |
| 20:00.33 | Intangir | does 7.10 have failsafe xserver? |
| 20:00.34 | deltron | what steam games are you playing? |
| 20:00.40 | Cidan | it all works fully, though at DX8 level which somewhat blows for TF2 |
| 20:00.42 | Cidan | TF2, portal |
| 20:00.48 | deltron | that sucks |
| 20:00.48 | krka | Intangir: yes! |
| 20:00.54 | deltron | I might dual boot for dx10 goodness |
| 20:00.56 | Cidan | Which is why I'm going to get the wine source this weekend |
| 20:00.57 | Intangir | that looks awesome |
| 20:01.02 | bleeter | Cidan: you using git wine, or release? |
| 20:01.03 | Cidan | and start hacking |
| 20:01.04 | bleeter | ahhh |
| 20:01.07 | bleeter | yeah, go git |
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| 20:01.13 | bleeter | just do it now |
| 20:01.14 | krka | wines own ubuntu repository is pretty good |
| 20:01.15 | krka | imo |
| 20:01.19 | deltron | git wine? |
| 20:01.26 | Cidan | I'm using release, why, git more up to date? |
| 20:01.31 | Cidan | in terms of DX? |
| 20:01.35 | bleeter | ubuntu's design will mean wine will get out of date pretty quickly ;) |
| 20:01.50 | deltron | bleeter: third party repositories ftw! |
| 20:01.51 | Cidan | yeah, Ubuntu, sadly, doesn't update Wine often |
| 20:01.51 | Intangir | its cool how like over half the channel are linux fans |
| 20:02.07 | bleeter | ubuntu will only update for security fixes, iirc |
| 20:02.09 | cncfanatics | 'fans' ? u mean users right ? |
| 20:02.09 | Intangir | do any of the linux users here NOT use ubuntu? |
| 20:02.14 | cncfanatics | debian here |
| 20:02.16 | Intangir | cncfanatics: ya both |
| 20:02.17 | deltron | I was a long time debian user |
| 20:02.23 | Intangir | cncfanatics: you dont use ubuntu? |
| 20:02.29 | cncfanatics | no i don't, why would I ? :op |
| 20:02.32 | bleeter | Kaydeethree and I are on Fedora |
| 20:02.33 | deltron | and before that, I was redhat, and before that, slack |
| 20:02.43 | bleeter | though I'm thinking of moving to Rawhide |
| 20:02.54 | Intangir | i am really happy with ubuntu |
| 20:02.56 | cncfanatics | I like my debian just fine, don't see why I'd change, and I don't like how u have to reinstall ubuntu on major updates (or so I heard) |
| 20:03.05 | Intangir | unless they really fumble the ball im sticking with that |
| 20:03.06 | Kaydeethree | meh. I'm a fan of stability. I'll be staying on 7 for another month and a half before I make the switch to 8 |
| 20:03.26 | Intangir | cncfanatics: i havent had to reinstall ubuntu since 5.10 |
| 20:03.29 | Cidan | I use Debian on my servers |
| 20:03.31 | deltron | cncfanatics: it's just a dist-upgrade away for ubuntu |
| 20:03.38 | deltron | cncfanatics: same thing as debian releases |
| 20:03.39 | bleeter | I'm prolly gunna throw CentOS on my server |
| 20:03.40 | cncfanatics | ah, np then |
| 20:03.48 | cncfanatics | I use debian unstable, so np for me with releases :p |
| 20:03.52 | deltron | yeah :) |
| 20:03.52 | bleeter | seeing that's what we're using now over @ norganna.org |
| 20:03.55 | Intangir | i used debian on my webserver for 6-7 years |
| 20:04.00 | Intangir | but i upgraded it to ubuntu |
| 20:04.04 | Intangir | its just a bit simplier i think |
| 20:04.23 | Intangir | i tried gentoo on my desktop, i hated it |
| 20:04.25 | Intangir | too much hassle |
| 20:04.40 | Intangir | i didnt see ANY performance increase |
| 20:04.45 | cncfanatics | I like my g'old debian, so I'm happy |
| 20:04.45 | Intangir | and it seemed way more unstable |
| 20:04.52 | deltron | my 2 main servers are debian |
| 20:04.55 | deltron | one is stable, one unstable |
| 20:05.13 | bleeter | http://www.bleeter.id.au/why_i_dont_think_much_of_gentoo_users.txt |
| 20:05.29 | deltron | I cannot stand gentoo |
| 20:06.11 | Intangir | whenever ihave an issue though ill often ask in #gentoo cause mostly gentoo users seem pretty knowledgable |
| 20:06.16 | Intangir | moreso than the average ubuntu users |
| 20:06.47 | Intangir | also ubuntu channels and forums are just overwhelmed with questions |
| 20:06.49 | Intangir | and not many answers |
| 20:06.53 | cncfanatics | how does gentoo work if he doesn't even know about COMPILING ? |
| 20:07.16 | Intangir | bleeter: i cant read |
| 20:07.22 | Intangir | ;) |
| 20:07.47 | bleeter | http://web.archive.org/web/20061004200708/http://www.funroll-loops.org/ |
| 20:07.55 | deltron | cncfanatics: stage 3 install :) |
| 20:08.06 | deltron | funroll loops isn't around? |
| 20:08.10 | cncfanatics | deltron, wth is stage3 ? :o |
| 20:08.11 | bleeter | nope :( |
| 20:08.38 | deltron | cncfanatics: stage 1 + 2 = you compile the install, stage 3 is you use precompiled stuff to install ubuntu :P |
| 20:08.46 | deltron | s/ubuntu/gentoo/ |
| 20:09.01 | Intangir | lol |
| 20:09.04 | Intangir | ya this is accurate ;) |
| 20:09.16 | Intangir | gentoo is for people who like to tweak and customize every damn thing |
| 20:09.19 | Intangir | i just want an OS that fucking works |
| 20:09.24 | Intangir | and doesnt force me to upgrade shit |
| 20:09.26 | bleeter | "Gentoo users are proof that society is best served by roving gangs of armed vigilantes, dishing out swift, cold justice with baseball bats to those fucking ricer bastards." |
| 20:09.51 | deltron | gentoo broke my system with an up grade once |
| 20:09.57 | deltron | I gave up on it after that |
| 20:10.27 | cncfanatics | is gentoo rly faster then other distro's ? :p |
| 20:10.38 | deltron | doubt it |
| 20:10.47 | deltron | you can do the same compile wizardry with any other distro |
| 20:10.56 | deltron | if you were inclined to do so |
| 20:11.41 | cncfanatics | easely even |
| 20:11.45 | cncfanatics | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:11.52 | deltron | yap |
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| 20:12.53 | cncfanatics | wth, weird ppl |
| 20:12.57 | cncfanatics | flags all over the place :p |
| 20:13.00 | deltron | lol |
| 20:13.08 | deltron | cflags yo! |
| 20:13.32 | bleeter | there is a reason the gentoo for ricers page was called funroll-loops (ie, take a look at the entry in man page of gcc, and imagine a gentoo user with all flags turned on) |
| 20:14.06 | Lin | this portal game is funny is a HL2 mod? |
| 20:14.17 | bleeter | additionally, O3 compile switch doesn't magically do what the man page suggests it might, one actually needs to understand stuff for it to be effective |
| 20:14.23 | bleeter | (as a couple of examples) |
| 20:14.26 | Cidan | Lin: It's not a HL2 mod, per se |
| 20:14.34 | deltron | it's a full game |
| 20:14.35 | Cidan | Lin: It's a game, and it's way more than just funny. |
| 20:14.36 | Intangir | these gentoo comments are all perfectly rational |
| 20:14.39 | Cidan | It blows your mind really |
| 20:14.40 | Intangir | i thought they would be crazy or stupid |
| 20:14.43 | Intangir | these guys are all right |
| 20:14.58 | Cidan | Because you can open two portals on any two surfaces and do some amazing things. |
| 20:15.03 | Lin | Cidan: we are back to the old puzzle games. |
| 20:15.09 | Cidan | Agreed |
| 20:15.13 | Cidan | only with much more class |
| 20:15.18 | Lin | but with niceties |
| 20:15.30 | Lin | is it free? |
| 20:15.37 | Thunder_Child | Cidan http://lifehacker.com/software/linux/whats-new-in-the-other-buntus-312191.php |
| 20:16.42 | Cidan | I may end up installing xubuntu at some point |
| 20:17.00 | Cidan | I'm digging how fast Gnome is though, last time I used it, it sucked. |
| 20:17.06 | Cidan | Granted that was a long time ago |
| 20:17.12 | bleeter | gnome is still horrid |
| 20:17.18 | Thunder_Child | kubunto looked good to me |
| 20:17.24 | Cidan | I like it better than KDE atm. |
| 20:17.36 | bleeter | btw, KDE and Gnome are facing issues with SMB soon, with Samba going GPLv3 |
| 20:17.38 | Lin | gnome is FAR BETTER than kde |
| 20:17.47 | bleeter | XFCE ftw! \o/ |
| 20:17.51 | Cidan | xfce is nice |
| 20:18.03 | bleeter | though I'd rather be using something like ion3 |
| 20:18.04 | Cidan | though I wouldn't worry about Samba |
| 20:18.15 | Cidan | GPLv3 doesn't taint, it works fine with v2 |
| 20:18.33 | Cidan | I don't know where people get the idea it doesn't. You can include the software without having to change your own |
| 20:18.34 | Intangir | oh shit |
| 20:18.41 | Intangir | a gnome vs kde argument is breaking out ;) |
| 20:19.16 | bleeter | Cidan: lemme grab the stuff from FWN... |
| 20:19.40 | Intangir | i like gnome |
| 20:19.46 | Intangir | kde was also very good |
| 20:19.47 | Thunder_Child | "mmorpgs seem to be quite inteli....ok, i cant finish that with a straight face." hahaha |
| 20:19.54 | Intangir | lol |
| 20:20.00 | Intangir | are you listening to the wow one? send me a link |
| 20:20.12 | Thunder_Child | no, tabula rasa, hase some wow in it |
| 20:20.16 | Thunder_Child | http://www.escapistmagazine.com/articles/view/editorials/zeropunctuation/2326-Zero-Punctuation-Tabula-Rasa |
| 20:20.18 | Thunder_Child | has* |
| 20:21.00 | Intangir | oh wait thats the one i was thinking of |
| 20:21.13 | bleeter | Cidan: https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2007-October/msg00463.html |
| 20:21.34 | bleeter | Cidan: though for a summary of the rather long thread, http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FWN/Issue105#head-9704e381395b0f0ccc8a4ab85596e71d30835aa4 |
| 20:21.53 | Thunder_Child | "...but then people dont understand why i like wraping lettuce around my cock and sticking it in other peoples salad" |
| 20:22.11 | bleeter | k, my bad, the gnome situation is prolly a bit better than kde |
| 20:25.55 | Lunessa | that.. that was .... in brilliantly poor taste. 10/10 |
| 20:31.22 | art3mis | yay |
| 20:31.28 | art3mis | got an epic broom and the caster ring |
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| 20:35.42 | Cidan | oo |
| 20:35.48 | Cidan | time to try the hellgate demo in wine |
| 20:35.49 | Cidan | :P |
| 20:35.55 | art3mis | need to get my flying broom now too |
| 20:35.58 | deltron | good luck :D |
| 20:39.37 | Kaso | Thunder_Child, Yahtzee is a hero to me. |
| 20:40.21 | dreamss | is headless douchbag out ? |
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| 20:43.27 | zenzelezz | yes |
| 20:45.08 | art3mis | hehe i kinna want the cloth perm punkin head |
| 20:45.27 | art3mis | 2 hours for our server for the fires |
| 20:55.49 | dieck | hm. Does someone know how to reload the engineers Healing Potion Injector? does it need to be empty? |
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| 20:58.27 | Cidan | bleeter: looks like Hellgate won't launch, or so appdb says |
| 20:58.30 | Cidan | :/ |
| 20:58.45 | Cidan | let me uninstall this wine package and use the package from the wine repo |
| 21:00.26 | Cidan | doh, no 64 bit packages from Wine, :/ |
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| 21:08.13 | dreamss | Each character can summon the horseman once per hour. (originally thought to be once per day) |
| 21:08.14 | dreamss | true? |
| 21:09.48 | bleeter | Cidan: aye, 64bit stuff is iirc problematic or non-existant |
| 21:10.13 | bleeter | Cidan: my bad -> http://wiki.winehq.org/WineOn64bit |
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| 21:19.19 | Kaso | dieck, you dont reload it, it is a consumable. |
| 21:19.32 | Kaso | you use your 20 charges and you make another |
| 21:24.05 | dreamss | lame we wiped, used the cooldown? |
| 21:26.06 | Intangir | dreamss: your summoning the headless guy? |
| 21:26.10 | Intangir | how does it work? once an hour? |
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| 21:29.51 | zenzelezz | I like putting herbs on the AH |
| 21:29.56 | Cidan | it's so sad, XP boots faster in a VM |
| 21:29.58 | Cidan | for me |
| 21:29.59 | Cidan | :/ |
| 21:30.11 | zenzelezz | while I'm putting up my Terocones, my Felweeds are disappearing before my eyes |
| 21:30.18 | Shirik|Ecole | hiiiiiii Cidan |
| 21:30.22 | Intangir | Cidan: me too |
| 21:30.27 | Intangir | wonder why that is |
| 21:30.30 | Cidan | Howdy Shirik, feeling a bit gay? |
| 21:30.48 | Shirik|Ecole | if that makes you feel better, sure |
| 21:30.49 | Intangir | civ4 loads way faster for me on cedega than it does on windows |
| 21:30.51 | dreamss | aparently once an hour |
| 21:30.53 | Cidan | :/ |
| 21:30.55 | Cidan | Gay as in |
| 21:30.56 | Cidan | happy |
| 21:30.56 | Intangir | also wow installs way faster on wine, than it does on windows |
| 21:31.02 | dreamss | so? |
| 21:31.13 | dreamss | thats just filesystem i/o |
| 21:31.23 | Intangir | its a massive difference though |
| 21:31.32 | Intangir | and i thought the bottleneck was reading the disks |
| 21:31.35 | Cidan | also, I'm going to buy UT3 just because it supports Linux |
| 21:31.38 | Cidan | to show my support |
| 21:31.41 | Intangir | but it just FLYS thru so fast i dont think it was really doing it on linux |
| 21:31.43 | Cidan | even though the game is so-so |
| 21:31.45 | Intangir | but on windows it takes like an hour |
| 21:32.17 | Intangir | ya thats another thing about linux vs windows |
| 21:32.34 | Intangir | windows supports 2 file systems? 3 if you count iso9660 |
| 21:32.40 | Cidan | lol |
| 21:32.42 | Intangir | linux supports 255 |
| 21:32.45 | Intangir | 256? |
| 21:32.58 | Cidan | oh yeah, Ubuntu can read/write NTFS out of the box now |
| 21:33.01 | Cidan | no issues. |
| 21:33.04 | Intangir | cool |
| 21:33.06 | bleeter | as many as you can write drivers for :P |
| 21:33.10 | zenzelezz | safely write? |
| 21:33.13 | Cidan | yes. |
| 21:33.19 | bleeter | ntfs-3g ftw! |
| 21:33.29 | Cidan | It's enabled by default, works like a charm |
| 21:33.29 | Intangir | some guy was griping that if you change your video card you cant boot linux |
| 21:33.37 | Cidan | Intangir: lol? |
| 21:33.40 | Intangir | i told him how retarded he was, cause you can still boot with text, change the driver it uses |
| 21:33.45 | Intangir | and the new X has failsafe mode |
| 21:33.48 | Intangir | which works fine, high rez |
| 21:33.59 | Cidan | In windows, if you change your mobo, etc, the whole damn thing just bluescreens |
| 21:34.05 | Intangir | but windows, if you move your drive to another machine, its caput |
| 21:34.09 | dreamss | learn to inetd modes |
| 21:34.09 | bleeter | is it X that has failsafe, or the login/display manager? |
| 21:34.10 | dreamss | lol |
| 21:34.14 | Intangir | you cant boot it on any other machine if the harddrive controller is changed |
| 21:34.27 | Intangir | Cidan: ya, i told him that ;) |
| 21:34.31 | Intangir | that was my retort |
| 21:34.34 | Intangir | windows is gay |
| 21:34.40 | Intangir | even the repair didnt fix it |
| 21:34.49 | dreamss | hehe |
| 21:34.58 | Intangir | bleeter: im not sure, i think its X |
| 21:35.00 | Cidan | Yerp, I think we're going to see a decline after Vista -- which TBH I didn't believe at first, just a lot of people wishing and hoping. |
| 21:35.05 | Intangir | they are calling it failsafe X |
| 21:35.12 | Cidan | But I totally think Windows platform is going to go downhill |
| 21:35.21 | Cidan | Which is why they are going to come up with a new OS |
| 21:35.25 | dreamss | XP is as good as it gets |
| 21:35.26 | Cidan | A new name |
| 21:35.29 | dreamss | and thats sayingt alot |
| 21:35.30 | bleeter | Vista was such fail for so many |
| 21:35.34 | Cidan | Not windows, ground up |
| 21:35.38 | Cidan | rewrite of everything |
| 21:35.42 | Intangir | ya vista is still not being widely adopted |
| 21:35.42 | Cidan | filesystem, everything |
| 21:35.45 | Cidan | the entire structure |
| 21:35.50 | zenzelezz | MS Bob 2.0 |
| 21:35.50 | Cidan | And it will win. |
| 21:35.51 | dreamss | and starts with bugs from scratch? |
| 21:35.52 | dreamss | ok |
| 21:35.53 | dreamss | lol |
| 21:35.54 | Intangir | even people who are buying ne wmachines with vista, keep installing XP on them |
| 21:36.02 | bleeter | I've got Bob here somewhere, that thing is so damned funny |
| 21:36.02 | Cidan | No, just mark my words |
| 21:36.14 | Cidan | Copy/paste this somewhere, this IS what will happen. |
| 21:36.26 | Intangir | lol ok cidan |
| 21:36.28 | Intangir | calm down |
| 21:36.31 | Cidan | NEVER |
| 21:36.33 | Cidan | SLKDJSDHJSJd |
| 21:36.34 | dreamss | linux still a crappy desktop |
| 21:36.35 | dreamss | heh |
| 21:36.38 | Intangir | and i disagree btw |
| 21:36.41 | Intangir | windows is it for MS |
| 21:36.50 | Intangir | they are going to ride that sinking turd right down the toilet ;) |
| 21:36.57 | Cidan | tsh, I disagree. |
| 21:36.57 | bleeter | linux is NOT a desktop :P |
| 21:36.58 | dreamss | grat server, not good for desktop |
| 21:37.14 | Intangir | linux is too a desktop |
| 21:37.22 | Intangir | its better than windows |
| 21:37.24 | bleeter | it's the freaken' kernel |
| 21:37.29 | dreamss | oh rly |
| 21:37.30 | dreamss | -_- |
| 21:37.30 | Cidan | I wonder if I'll fudge up my machine if I install the newest nvidia binary from the website. |
| 21:37.31 | Intangir | oh well i mean, you know, gnu/linux |
| 21:37.38 | bleeter | the desktop of Gnome, KDE, XFCE, Ion3, etc. etc. etc. |
| 21:37.42 | Cidan | I hate people who say gnu/linux |
| 21:37.43 | Intangir | the library has 12 desktops running on 2 PCs |
| 21:37.46 | Intangir | all linux |
| 21:37.46 | Cidan | I want to stab people who do |
| 21:37.52 | Intangir | everyone who goes there is using linux |
| 21:37.55 | Intangir | desktop |
| 21:38.10 | dreamss | heh |
| 21:38.15 | Intangir | browsing, document editing, multimedia, gaming etc, linux can do it all, the only thing holding it back, is vendors arent supporting it |
| 21:38.26 | Intangir | its not that gnu/linux cant handle it, its just that no one is giving it the damn ball |
| 21:38.34 | Intangir | so with wine, it steals the ball anyway, and runs with it |
| 21:39.01 | dreamss | its not just hardware support |
| 21:39.08 | dreamss | but developer support |
| 21:39.11 | Intangir | i mean software vendors |
| 21:39.20 | Intangir | it has great hardware support now too |
| 21:39.22 | bleeter | we should start up a WoW SDL port petition |
| 21:39.22 | zenzelezz | give me MSN Library for Linux and I'll be happy |
| 21:39.32 | bleeter | seeing the SDL guys are talking about version 2.0 now ;) |
| 21:39.35 | zenzelezz | MSDN |
| 21:39.38 | zenzelezz | stupid keybaord |
| 21:39.53 | Cidan | eh? |
| 21:40.00 | Cidan | Doesn't slouken do SDL? |
| 21:40.09 | dreamss | hardware support is a step behind from windows, either cause of the vista hdmi plataform or cause hardware vendors dont give a dam |
| 21:40.19 | Intangir | let me ask you this, if you could have the default install, of only either the windows OS fully installed, or the Ubuntu OS fully installed, and you could install NO OTHER SOFTWATRE |
| 21:40.23 | Intangir | which would you choose |
| 21:40.24 | bleeter | Cidan: when he's not being a new dad and working on wow, yeah.. but there are quite a few others ;) |
| 21:40.43 | Cidan | as of today, Ubuntu |
| 21:40.44 | dreamss | Ubuntu is crap anyways, slackware all the way |
| 21:40.50 | dreamss | specially after their lil hicup |
| 21:40.50 | Cidan | As of last week, Windows |
| 21:40.52 | Intangir | ok pick your distro then |
| 21:41.05 | Intangir | but what im saying is that linux distros have WAY more tools, that you NEED installed by default |
| 21:41.20 | dreamss | heh |
| 21:41.31 | |Jelly| | Cog needs to come back imo. |
| 21:41.39 | Cidan | What are you talking about? |
| 21:41.40 | Cidan | lol |
| 21:41.43 | Cidan | tools? |
| 21:41.45 | Cidan | need? |
| 21:41.55 | Intangir | like ssh |
| 21:42.00 | Intangir | like drivers |
| 21:42.03 | Cidan | Uh |
| 21:42.04 | Intangir | like office |
| 21:42.07 | dreamss | securecrt all the way |
| 21:42.12 | Intangir | media players |
| 21:42.13 | Cidan | I invite you to take a look into c:\windows\system32 |
| 21:42.52 | Intangir | what about it? |
| 21:43.09 | bleeter | Cidan: I did, it told me those files are dangerous to look at ;) |
| 21:43.13 | Cidan | Don't be so silly, Windows has it's fair share of "tools" too, it's all a part of the API. Services, the window manager, drawing toolkit |
| 21:43.30 | Cidan | all spans many libraries |
| 21:43.41 | Cidan | Just because they aren't "executables" as you know them, doesn't mean they aren't there |
| 21:43.48 | dreamss | problem with windows is the way it lets services get security they shoudent need |
| 21:44.12 | dreamss | linux kernel security plataform is more advanced |
| 21:44.23 | Cidan | eh... yeah, I guess |
| 21:44.38 | Cidan | Vista took a nice leap though |
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| 21:44.42 | Cidan | with user mode drivers |
| 21:44.57 | dreamss | there no such thing as jail in a windows server |
| 21:45.12 | Cidan | and if you rely on jail |
| 21:45.17 | Cidan | you're a bad admin/coder. |
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| 21:45.18 | Cidan | :P |
| 21:45.21 | dreamss | is just an example |
| 21:45.22 | dreamss | heh |
| 21:45.23 | sag_ich_nicht | haha |
| 21:45.26 | sag_ich_nicht | the onuse effect |
| 21:45.33 | sag_ich_nicht | of the headless horseman helm |
| 21:45.35 | sag_ich_nicht | is awesome |
| 21:45.39 | Cairenn | Cidan: us server, not eu, correct? |
| 21:45.40 | dreamss | it has an use? |
| 21:45.41 | dreamss | lol |
| 21:45.49 | sag_ich_nicht | yes |
| 21:45.52 | sag_ich_nicht | it's not in the tooltip |
| 21:45.53 | Cidan | Cairenn: Correct, good ol' Washington DC |
| 21:45.54 | Cidan | :P |
| 21:45.54 | sag_ich_nicht | but it's there |
| 21:45.55 | sag_ich_nicht | it's awesome |
| 21:45.59 | Cairenn | danke |
| 21:46.20 | dreamss | Cidan, my linux servers go tru grsec and nice ass acl |
| 21:46.37 | Cidan | my servers are configured by hand |
| 21:46.39 | Cidan | go figure |
| 21:46.56 | dreamss | hehe of course by hand |
| 21:47.03 | sag_ich_nicht | got the helm on the 3rd kill |
| 21:47.04 | Cidan | I mean like, all security |
| 21:47.14 | Cidan | the only blanket-security I have is iptables |
| 21:47.16 | sag_ich_nicht | and finally my enchanting twink is at 275 enchanting skill |
| 21:47.20 | sag_ich_nicht | which means mucho mucho money |
| 21:47.21 | sag_ich_nicht | :O |
| 21:47.23 | Cairenn | Cidan: they say thank you, they are looking into it right now |
| 21:47.24 | dreamss | windows would be tinyfw for ACL and that can be shutdown easly |
| 21:47.37 | Cidan | Cairenn: Perfect. Thanks to you, <3 |
| 21:47.51 | dreamss | Cidan, grsec is a kernel recompile so you gotta config per server role |
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| 21:48.06 | dreamss | some patches break badly coded programs |
| 21:48.26 | Cidan | So I take it grsec would break Ace2 then? |
| 21:48.39 | art3mis | hrm someone gimme a demoniod invite |
| 21:48.42 | dreamss | it break wine for sure |
| 21:49.24 | Intangir | i was afk |
| 21:49.31 | Intangir | anyway, windows doesnt come with office |
| 21:49.35 | Intangir | it comes with shit wordpad and crap |
| 21:49.38 | art3mis | sure it does |
| 21:49.39 | Intangir | doesnt come with java |
| 21:49.43 | Intangir | doesnt come with an ssh client |
| 21:49.52 | Cidan | this is true |
| 21:49.55 | art3mis | if you order it from emachines or something they give you ms works! |
| 21:49.57 | Intangir | doesnt come with drivers for most things |
| 21:50.03 | Cidan | but it does come with everything you need to run *windows* servers |
| 21:50.03 | Intangir | doesnt come with a COMPILER! |
| 21:50.16 | art3mis | appearantly you're forgetting gw basic! |
| 21:50.19 | zenzelezz | linux comes with none of this either, only the distros |
| 21:50.20 | Cidan | no kidding |
| 21:50.21 | dreamss | heh |
| 21:50.23 | bleeter | MS is also a company who, strangely enough, exist to make a profit |
| 21:50.24 | Intangir | lol, it doesnt come with basic anymore |
| 21:50.29 | Cidan | plys there is VS Express now |
| 21:50.34 | Cidan | which is free |
| 21:50.37 | Cidan | plys == plus |
| 21:50.38 | Intangir | almost every distro out there comes with all these things |
| 21:50.39 | zenzelezz | and you can download the VC++2003 optimizing compiler |
| 21:51.05 | dreamss | i stole slackware install cd and made a live distro that can read fatx |
| 21:51.06 | zenzelezz | comparing a plain OS to a distro is skewed |
| 21:51.09 | Intangir | most distros have a tool to easily install tons of awesome shit from repositories too |
| 21:51.10 | dreamss | and telenetd |
| 21:51.10 | bleeter | 10 years ago, Cidan? u teh n00b! |
| 21:51.12 | dreamss | fun shit |
| 21:51.13 | Intangir | windows does NOT |
| 21:51.16 | Intangir | it has a tool that lets you REMOVE software ;) |
| 21:51.24 | art3mis | windows udpate |
| 21:51.29 | art3mis | and internet explorer |
| 21:51.33 | Intangir | if windows add/remove software thing actually let you also .. add software then it would be nice |
| 21:51.35 | art3mis | if you need more you fail at life |
| 21:51.41 | Cidan | bleeter: bite me, I'm 25 years old. |
| 21:51.41 | Intangir | lol |
| 21:51.57 | Cidan | up until about 15, all I could think about was vagina |
| 21:51.57 | Intangir | your both newbs |
| 21:52.00 | Cidan | wait no |
| 21:52.04 | Cidan | I did after 15... |
| 21:52.05 | Cidan | hmm |
| 21:52.07 | Cidan | huh |
| 21:52.08 | Cidan | still do. |
| 21:52.13 | Intangir | whats a vagina? |
| 21:52.15 | Cidan | God damn it. |
| 21:52.17 | Intangir | we are computer nerds |
| 21:52.19 | Intangir | j/k |
| 21:52.31 | bleeter | there's an answer to that question, Intangir |
| 21:52.37 | bleeter | but Cairenn would kick me |
| 21:52.41 | Cidan | rofl |
| 21:52.41 | Intangir | lol |
| 21:52.58 | Esamynn | bleeter: what? you're scared of Cairenn? |
| 21:53.02 | Esamynn | wuss! |
| 21:53.02 | Intangir | the source of all cooties ;) |
| 21:53.35 | Cidan | Not so much scared as we worship her all encompasing beauty and awe? |
| 21:54.00 | Cidan | encompassing even |
| 21:54.29 | Thunder_Child | Esamynn, your scared of Cairenn |
| 21:54.31 | Intangir | get a room |
| 21:54.33 | art3mis | should cid be gagging? |
| 21:54.34 | Cidan | Come on, it was slick! |
| 21:54.40 | art3mis | if he's doing the sucking anyways |
| 21:54.46 | art3mis | shuoldnt |
| 21:54.59 | bleeter | well, I guess as there's no females on the internet, it'd be safe to say the answer... maybe |
| 21:55.54 | bleeter | I could always try and redeem myself by making a reverse q/a combo |
| 21:56.16 | Cidan | annndd hellgate fails |
| 21:57.04 | Esamynn | Thunder_Child: why do you say that? |
| 21:57.09 | Intangir | my friend attacked a paladin named 'bravery' once, and he bubble hearthed |
| 21:57.16 | Esamynn | haha |
| 21:57.20 | Thunder_Child | why not? |
| 21:57.46 | bleeter | if there's one thing I've learned in my 35+ years, is not to venture near the area that'd piss off the woman who's got the stick that can hit hard |
| 21:58.04 | Thunder_Child | i love doing that |
| 21:58.33 | foxlit | http://www. |
| 21:58.37 | foxlit | fail.com |
| 21:58.38 | Cidan | holy shit |
| 21:58.40 | Cidan | that's awesome |
| 21:58.41 | Cidan | haha |
| 21:58.43 | Cidan | wait |
| 21:58.43 | Cidan | lol |
| 21:58.46 | zenzelezz | women with sticks... sounds wrong |
| 21:58.53 | Cidan | 17:57 < foxlit> http://www. |
| 21:58.53 | Cidan | 17:57 < foxlit> fail.com |
| 21:59.00 | bleeter | ~fail foxlit |
| 21:59.01 | purl | foxlit: Fail. |
| 21:59.03 | Cidan | you fail at failing, foxlit |
| 21:59.09 | Cidan | That's sad. |
| 21:59.24 | foxlit | http://img86.imageshack.us/img86/9835/weaponstx4.png |
| 22:00.26 | bleeter | hmm, I've just had a thought... |
| 22:01.27 | bleeter | nope, it'd appear Merkin is not a valid toon name |
| 22:03.12 | Intangir | shit |
| 22:03.16 | Intangir | a huge bomb went off in pakistan |
| 22:03.21 | Intangir | killed like 100 people |
| 22:05.42 | foxlit | You'd think that with strategic placing, you could kill a lot more people with a much smaller bomb |
| 22:06.02 | Intangir | lol |
| 22:06.08 | Intangir | microsoft has an add |
| 22:06.14 | Intangir | saying government says linux was too big a risk |
| 22:06.17 | Intangir | lol.. |
| 22:06.33 | Intangir | ya its much safer to use an OS that the NSA had a hand in writing rather than one that anyone can audit |
| 22:06.57 | foxlit | "an OS that the NSA had a hand in writing" got a source for that? |
| 22:07.07 | Intangir | im sure i can find one, hang on |
| 22:07.15 | Intangir | in vista that is |
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| 22:07.26 | Intangir | vistas rewritten TCP stack was written with help from NSA |
| 22:08.52 | foxlit | [citation needed] |
| 22:10.33 | Intangir | this looks like its about it |
| 22:10.33 | Intangir | http://www.infoworld.com/article/07/01/10/HNnsamadevistasecure_1.html |
| 22:10.36 | Intangir | LOL |
| 22:10.40 | Intangir | the same windows add is on this page too |
| 22:10.44 | Intangir | the one i was just laughing about |
| 22:11.26 | foxlit | I get no ads on that page |
| 22:11.38 | Intangir | do you have a blocker? |
| 22:11.47 | Intangir | cause i got like 4-5 |
| 22:11.52 | Intangir | 6 |
| 22:11.57 | foxlit | "a blocker" no |
| 22:12.10 | Intangir | what is it? |
| 22:12.11 | foxlit | I have a small list of websites I dump connections to. |
| 22:12.19 | Intangir | ah |
| 22:12.35 | foxlit | "Some bells are going to go off when the government's spy agency is working with the private sector's top developer of operating systems." |
| 22:12.38 | foxlit | Meh. |
| 22:12.49 | Intangir | http://view.atdmt.com/MRT/iview/nfwrlitp0290000066mrt/direct;vt.1/01/6756836?buster_url=http://www.infoworld.com/eyeblaster/atlas_rm.htm&pub_view_url=&click=http://ad.doubleclick.net/click%3Bh=v8/35ef/3/0/%2a/s%3B139825159%3B0-0%3B1%3B7797370%3B4252-336/280%3B22759839/22777722/1%3B%3B%7Esscs%3D%3f |
| 22:12.50 | foxlit | The US government runs windows for most of its machines. |
| 22:13.11 | sag_ich_nicht | night |
| 22:13.21 | foxlit | I wouldn't be too amazed if the agency tasked with maintaining government information security wanted to audit the OS the government is using. |
| 22:13.39 | foxlit | Btw, the same windows sourcecode is available to, say, the russian government. |
| 22:14.02 | Intangir | i wouldnt be too amazed if the agency tasked with digital spying wanted to ensure backdoor access to the most commonly used OS in the world |
| 22:14.33 | foxlit | Unlikely conspiracy theory bells do go off :) |
| 22:14.51 | Intangir | how likely is is a matter of opinion |
| 22:15.03 | Intangir | if you know the history of microsoft, and the gates foundation it becomes more and more likely |
| 22:15.24 | Intangir | there are conspiracies you know |
| 22:15.47 | Intangir | just cause the word is made fun of doesnt mean they dont exist, or that they are some how dismissable |
| 22:17.03 | foxlit | Most conspiracy theories are wacky -> conspiracy theories start out a low level of belief. |
| 22:17.25 | Intangir | where do you get this 'most conspiracy theories are wacky'.. |
| 22:17.28 | foxlit | I see no reason to raise that level of belief from "meh" to "maybe" |
| 22:17.54 | Intangir | i see no reason to TRUST microsoft OR the NSA in the first place |
| 22:17.58 | foxlit | How many conspiracy theories do you know that actually have real conspiracies behind them? :) |
| 22:18.31 | Intangir | tons of them |
| 22:18.47 | Intangir | you know people goto prison EVERY DAY in this country alone on conspiracy charges |
| 22:18.58 | Intangir | its a serious charge, its taken very seriously in our courts |
| 22:19.08 | Intangir | but somehow you say the word on the net and people think tinfoil hats |
| 22:19.27 | Intangir | probably thousands of people a year easily goto prison on conspiracy charges |
| 22:19.50 | foxlit | So what do people conspire to do? :) |
| 22:20.00 | Cairenn | it depends on what sort of "conspiracy" you're talking about Intangir, let's be realistic here |
| 22:20.02 | Intangir | embezzling, murder, spying, theft, etc |
| 22:20.12 | Intangir | crimes of every level |
| 22:20.13 | foxlit | Besides |
| 22:20.15 | Intangir | world domination, assassination |
| 22:20.25 | Shirik|Ecole | heh |
| 22:20.26 | foxlit | "conspiracy to commit..." is a generic charge for a failure to do a crime |
| 22:20.29 | Shirik|Ecole | we're talking about the addon, obviously |
| 22:20.30 | Intangir | voter fraud |
| 22:20.39 | foxlit | Shirik: you're clearly in bed with the NSA! |
| 22:20.45 | Shirik|Ecole | affirmative, I'm just trying to hide it |
| 22:20.46 | foxlit | Even your addon is called conspiracy! |
| 22:20.55 | Intangir | my point is, has microsoft done anythign to earn your trust? or the NSA? no |
| 22:21.03 | Intangir | so why do you trust them bydefault? rather than distrust them by default? |
| 22:21.36 | Intangir | no one in the NSA is elected by you |
| 22:21.39 | Intangir | you dont even KNOW them |
| 22:21.52 | Intangir | most of their budget is for secret projects |
| 22:21.54 | Thunder_Child | and? |
| 22:22.00 | Thunder_Child | why should that matter? |
| 22:22.06 | Intangir | so.. why do you assume they are trustworthy? |
| 22:22.11 | foxlit | (Because they're clearly Evil People (tm)) |
| 22:22.12 | Thunder_Child | i dont, i simply dont care |
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| 22:22.36 | Intangir | i wonder, i dont use MS in the first place, but i know better than to be blindly trustworthy |
| 22:22.46 | foxlit | There are a few things |
| 22:22.57 | Intangir | fyi, jfk wasnt killed by oswald |
| 22:23.07 | Intangir | thats a conspiracy 'theory' that is definately on to something |
| 22:23.10 | foxlit | People don't kill people! |
| 22:23.28 | Intangir | mmmhmmm |
| 22:23.29 | foxlit | Knowing the amount of viruses developed against windows, adding more intentional backdoors is like shooting yourself in the foot. |
| 22:23.46 | foxlit | Windows sourcecode is shared with certain government agencies world wide. |
| 22:23.50 | Thunder_Child | again, i could care less, so they are browsing my computer...whoop-de-do |
| 22:23.57 | Intangir | foxlit: thats not helping me ;) |
| 22:24.00 | Cairenn | oy, this conversation is just too entirely paranoid for me - later guys |
| 22:24.05 | Thunder_Child | see ya Cairenn |
| 22:24.05 | foxlit | tsk! |
| 22:24.10 | foxlit | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:24.11 | Shirik|Ecole | no, Cairenn! |
| 22:24.13 | Shirik|Ecole | don't leave us! |
| 22:24.38 | Intangir | distrust != paranoia |
| 22:25.11 | foxlit | Is the NSA out to get you? :) |
| 22:25.24 | Intangir | how would i know? |
| 22:25.41 | foxlit | Are they interested in getting to you? :) |
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| 22:25.55 | Intangir | again how the hell would i know? |
| 22:25.56 | foxlit | It's a fun place to work, really. |
| 22:25.59 | Intangir | they are a secret organization |
| 22:26.02 | foxlit | Do you think they are? |
| 22:26.03 | Intangir | with a secret ammount of funding, and power |
| 22:26.19 | Intangir | secret agendas |
| 22:26.25 | Intangir | for all i know they are out to get all of us |
| 22:26.34 | Intangir | or they are sleeping on the job |
| 22:26.45 | Intangir | i dont trust them though, just like i wouldnt trust you |
| 22:27.07 | Intangir | trust has to be earned |
| 22:27.36 | foxlit | How do you propose that happens? :) |
| 22:27.36 | Intangir | everyone trusts the dollar even though its plummeting in value, everyone trusts the fda even though they are constantly allowing poisons in our food |
| 22:27.46 | Intangir | foxlit: you gotta check their track record |
| 22:27.57 | Intangir | what has the nsa ever done for us that we know of? nothing.. |
| 22:28.02 | Intangir | course im not the one normally dealing with them |
| 22:28.15 | Intangir | but now, they are involved in an OS tons of people use.. |
| 22:28.26 | foxlit | (that they also use) |
| 22:28.34 | Intangir | they are directly involved with something that directly effects most of us.. that definately sets off some bells |
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| 22:29.05 | foxlit | You're making it very easy to build a "I don't know anything about them" -> "They're untrustworthy" -> "Any information about them is likely to be false" -> "They're untrustworthy" loop :) |
| 22:29.34 | foxlit | So they shouldn't audit software that the US government uses? |
| 22:29.34 | Intangir | im not making it easy |
| 22:29.36 | Intangir | they are ;) |
| 22:29.39 | Intangir | i mean we are talking about the NSA |
| 22:29.43 | Intangir | what the hell DO we know about them |
| 22:29.53 | buu | OH NO CONSPIRACIES. |
| 22:29.54 | Intangir | your the one who keeps asking stupid questions about an organization that obviously neither of us could know anything about |
| 22:30.13 | Intangir | ive used windows, i couldnt audit it |
| 22:30.15 | buu | Intangir: Nobody knows anything about the NSA because it's so fucking boring everyone falls asleep. |
| 22:30.26 | Intangir | buu: ya im sure thats it |
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| 22:30.40 | Intangir | spending billions of dollars on secret projects is always boring |
| 22:30.42 | buu | Intangir: No obviously it's SCARY CONSPIRACY. |
| 22:30.43 | Intangir | sounds boring to me |
| 22:30.57 | Intangir | what is with people these days |
| 22:31.00 | buu | Yeah, "Secret projects" like "Developing a new 512 bit cypher" |
| 22:31.03 | foxlit | Secret projects are usually expensive :) |
| 22:31.03 | Intangir | someone questions something and everyone says CONSPIRACY! |
| 22:31.07 | Intangir | HAHAHA OMG ANOTHER NUT! LOOK AT HIS HAT |
| 22:31.17 | buu | BECAUSE YOU HAVE NO FUCKING EVIDENCE |
| 22:31.22 | buu | YOU HAVE ONLY BASELESS SUGGESTIONS |
| 22:31.26 | Intangir | your a fucking sheep you realize thats a preconditioned repsonse, you dont even have to think about to regurgitate it |
| 22:31.46 | Intangir | now your using all caps |
| 22:31.46 | buu | Now you really sound like a nutter. |
| 22:31.46 | Kaydeethree | woo ad hominem |
| 22:31.51 | Shirik|Ecole | wow |
| 22:31.52 | Intangir | your the nutter.. |
| 22:31.53 | Shirik|Ecole | guys |
| 22:31.56 | Shirik|Ecole | calm down |
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| 22:32.04 | foxlit | keep it civil, 'kay :) |
| 22:32.10 | Intangir | your the one incapable of even reading the back log and seeing what the fuck we are talking about before you start ALL CAPSING CONSPIRACY THIS |
| 22:33.18 | foxlit | NSA is primarily responsible for Signals Intelligence (that's intercepting and decrypting enemy communications) and the opposite of that (defending own communications from being intercepted and decrypted by enemies). |
| 22:33.23 | cladhaire | default UI doesn't have horizontal scroll bars, does it? |
| 22:33.31 | cladhaire | the only one i considered was the battleground output |
| 22:33.35 | cladhaire | but even then I don't think it has one. |
| 22:33.47 | foxlit | cladhaire: I don't think I've seen them used |
| 22:34.07 | cladhaire | i dont think there are texture for them |
| 22:34.09 | cladhaire | more importantly |
| 22:34.13 | Intangir | NSA can also spy on our phone conversations and internet access |
| 22:34.17 | foxlit | Rotate and stuff |
| 22:34.23 | Intangir | they have direct access to alot of phone companies and ISPs |
| 22:34.25 | cladhaire | i dont want to |
| 22:34.26 | cladhaire | :P |
| 22:34.32 | foxlit | It's all there, you just flip it 90 degrees :) |
| 22:34.32 | Intangir | like AT&T |
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| 22:35.51 | foxlit | portal updates? |
| 22:35.57 | Kaydeethree | I bought it today |
| 22:36.08 | foxlit | Ah :) |
| 22:36.11 | Kaydeethree | s/it/the orange box/ |
| 22:37.33 | Intangir | im gonna have to get that orange box |
| 22:39.35 | Valaron|Work | Bah. I just got Rick rolled. |
| 22:39.39 | foxlit | Plus http://www.nsa.gov/kids/ is fun! |
| 22:40.00 | foxlit | Who could ever think a government organization that uses "Decipher Dog(TM)" to appeal to kids could be evil? :) |
| 22:40.05 | Thunder_Child | ~lart foxlit |
| 22:40.05 | purl | beats foxlit into protomatter with the andromeda galaxy |
| 22:40.10 | Intangir | foxlit: good point you must be right then |
| 22:40.34 | Intangir | s/good point you must be /yea/ |
| 22:40.43 | Intangir | hehe |
| 22:42.25 | Intangir | hes not answering his damn phone |
| 22:42.29 | Intangir | mistell |
| 22:48.57 | Kaso | Kaydeethree, finish portal before you play Ep2 |
| 22:49.16 | Kaydeethree | fox; didn't you say you had portal crash the instant the ai went 3, 2, 1? |
| 22:49.16 | Kaso | also, prepare for the most awesome game ever! |
| 22:49.52 | Kaydeethree | ...crap |
| 22:49.58 | Kaso | hm? |
| 22:50.33 | Kaydeethree | the instant the portal opened, splat. apparently I've been caught by the same bug |
| 22:50.34 | foxlit | Portal == most awesome game ever? :) |
| 22:51.04 | Kaso | well, its pretty much up there |
| 22:51.23 | Kaso | awesome humor, awesome storyline, awesome puzzles, awesome end. |
| 22:51.31 | foxlit | Nah, I agree :) |
| 22:51.43 | foxlit | Kaydeethree: that wasn't me :) |
| 22:51.53 | foxlit | Was just wondering if you meant portal or EP2 with tha tphrase |
| 22:53.12 | foxlit | Kaydeethree: but I definitely did /point and /laugh at someone having that problem, suggesting they get windows rather than linux for gaming. |
| 22:53.35 | foxlit | Portal worked flawlessly for me |
| 22:54.04 | Kaydeethree | welp, time to hit the appdb to see what the lazyweb's come up with |
| 22:54.23 | Shirik|Ecole | portal is indeed quite awesome |
| 22:54.37 | Shirik|Ecole | just wish it were longer |
| 22:54.50 | foxlit | Dunno. |
| 22:54.55 | foxlit | There isn't a lot more they could do |
| 22:55.29 | Shirik|Ecole | I agree |
| 22:55.40 | Shirik|Ecole | However, that's their problem, not mine! |
| 22:55.43 | Shirik|Ecole | I just demand more levels! |
| 22:55.57 | foxlit | They spoke of an editor in dev comments |
| 22:56.04 | Shirik|Ecole | affirmative |
| 22:56.07 | Shirik|Ecole | but I'm not creative |
| 22:56.12 | Shirik|Ecole | again, it's their problem, not mine! |
| 22:56.19 | Shirik|Ecole | They are the master game designers! |
| 22:59.16 | Cidan | hellgate is pretty cool. |
| 22:59.58 | foxlit | I hear it's gold. Is there a public beta or something? |
| 23:01.48 | Cidan | demo |
| 23:01.51 | Cidan | released. |
| 23:01.59 | Cidan | can you install nvidia drives in a VM? |
| 23:02.03 | Cidan | say like, a VM of XP |
| 23:02.10 | Cidan | or does it have to be the VM drivers? |
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| 23:07.09 | Hallucinosis | err |
| 23:07.29 | Hallucinosis | They emulate the VMWare video card |
| 23:07.32 | Hallucinosis | not an nVidia card |
| 23:07.36 | Hallucinosis | so pretty much, no |
| 23:07.38 | Cidan | thought so |
| 23:07.54 | Hallucinosis | I don't think they even have 3d acceleration yet |
| 23:08.16 | Hallucinosis | I mean, the way they support processor instructions |
| 23:17.11 | Industrial | Question: I can't just get a keybinding returned from a key? GetBinding(i) takes a number in the GetNumKeybindings() range. how the F am I going to know what eky is what number? (defeats the purpose) |
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| 23:17.54 | Wobwork | omg |
| 23:17.55 | Wobwork | http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v463/NightCreature/nomnom.gif |
| 23:18.02 | Wobwork | OM NOMNOMNOMNOM |
| 23:18.21 | Industrial | Wobwork: SQUEEZE |
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| 23:32.49 | Thunder_Child | i think i want to kill vista |
| 23:33.21 | Thunder_Child | i just had a BSoD from usbhub.sys |
| 23:33.22 | Thunder_Child | for no reason |
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| 23:42.47 | Kaso | The gnome is at the freaking start of the game?! you must be kidding me |
| 23:49.51 | Shirik|zZz | Thunder_Child: Obviously there was a reason |
| 23:51.58 | Thunder_Child | no, no there was not |
| 23:52.36 | Mr_Rabies2 | <+[NewsBot]> WoWBlues: Interface AddOn Kit updated for 2.3 PTR! - http://www.wowblues.com/us/interface-addon-kit-updated-for-23-ptr-2366666534.html |
| 23:52.37 | Mr_Rabies2 | :O |
| 23:53.00 | AnduinLothar | MPQFS imo |
| 23:53.45 | Mr_Rabies2 | YOURFACE imo |
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| 23:57.59 | Mr_Rabies2 | holy crap, this is amazing |
| 23:58.00 | Mr_Rabies2 | http://www.nordrassil.org/suduwoodo.jpg |
