| 00:00.20 | lolinternet | because you touch yourself at night. |
| 00:01.06 | lolinternet | dot dot dot my clock was off by 2 minutes. |
| 00:01.11 | lolinternet | that makes me angry. |
| 00:01.26 | lolinternet | anyway |
| 00:01.26 | dreamss | lol |
| 00:01.27 | lolinternet | night. |
| 00:02.14 | art3mis | anyone bored |
| 00:02.32 | art3mis | i need someone to make me a simplistic resieable map with transperancy |
| 00:02.38 | Polarina | art3mis: Yes. |
| 00:02.44 | art3mis | so i can just get rid of all my "map addons" |
| 00:02.49 | art3mis | resizeable |
| 00:03.32 | Corrodias | RicoMinimap should fulfill those needs |
| 00:03.36 | Guillotine | I made that and distributed it to you via a virus |
| 00:03.46 | Guillotine | use it via MinimapCluster:SetScale |
| 00:03.48 | Corrodias | scalable, transparenciable.. |
| 00:03.57 | Corrodias | comes with a few shapes |
| 00:03.59 | Guillotine | and MinimapCluster:SetAlpha |
| 00:04.53 | Thunder_Child | art3mis, minimap or reg map? |
| 00:05.18 | Corrodias | oh, i see |
| 00:05.42 | Corrodias | map. hmm. is there anything about Cartographer you don't like? |
| 00:06.02 | Guillotine | oh, map |
| 00:06.05 | Guillotine | not minimap |
| 00:06.07 | Guillotine | Cart then :P |
| 00:08.35 | art3mis | reg map |
| 00:09.05 | art3mis | ive been using the battlemap addon thingy recently cuz cart1 uses the fullscreen default map |
| 00:09.14 | art3mis | and metamap is too irritating ;P |
| 00:09.36 | kergoth | what do you mean? cart is resizable and has transparency |
| 00:09.45 | art3mis | cart1 doesnt behave right |
| 00:09.46 | Corrodias | indeedy |
| 00:09.47 | kergoth | and you can bind the alternate map key to alternate between two settings. |
| 00:09.53 | Corrodias | what's this "cart1"? |
| 00:10.01 | kergoth | i use a big world map for primary and alt-m opens a smaller highly alpha map |
| 00:10.02 | kergoth | works well |
| 00:10.02 | art3mis | and im not using cart2 because of the wierdness taints from rock config and other stuff |
| 00:10.12 | kergoth | cart1 works just fine for me |
| 00:10.13 | art3mis | cart1 is a forced ace2 supported cart version |
| 00:10.15 | brden | Hello I am looking for some help with drop down menus in wow. I have mine somewhat working. I am getting the first menu but when I mouse over an option to get the second menu I get the error. Interface\FrameXML\UIDropDownMenu.lua:211:Usage:DropDownList2Button1:SetText("text"). My code is pasted at http://wowi.pastey.net/75146 any help would be great |
| 00:10.22 | art3mis | kergoth: does it? |
| 00:10.39 | kergoth | well, not the forced version, the svn revision of cart before it was converted to rock, to be exact |
| 00:10.41 | art3mis | ive leeched and installed and run the bat like 5 seperate times |
| 00:10.53 | art3mis | oh duh |
| 00:10.55 | Corrodias | huh... there doesn't seem to me to be anything significantly wrong with cart2 |
| 00:11.00 | art3mis | i think thats still in HKUI |
| 00:11.11 | art3mis | i'll use that instead |
| 00:11.21 | art3mis | thanks kerg! |
| 00:11.23 | kergoth | i'm using .. r45273 myself |
| 00:11.23 | kergoth | np |
| 00:11.30 | art3mis | cart2 uses librock |
| 00:11.44 | art3mis | as stated many times i don't like how librock does things so im not using it |
| 00:11.51 | Corrodias | oh. oh, well. |
| 00:12.06 | art3mis | i changed from aprrot to msbt |
| 00:12.09 | art3mis | parrot |
| 00:12.14 | art3mis | never liked pitbull |
| 00:12.16 | Corrodias | the only visible difference should be the config menu, which is an interesting difference |
| 00:12.17 | kergoth | parrot seduces me with the sexy icons |
| 00:12.24 | art3mis | and im using the forced ace2 fubar |
| 00:12.56 | Corrodias | i'd be surprised if you reconfigure them often enough to truly prefer an old version with dropdown menus, but i am apparently wrong |
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| 00:13.12 | art3mis | with the amount i screw with uis |
| 00:13.16 | art3mis | the look and feel stuff |
| 00:13.24 | art3mis | it's a big irritation for me |
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| 00:24.13 | abyx | is there any channels to talk about mage theorycrafting and such? |
| 00:25.40 | Guillotine | probably a mage channel somewhere |
| 00:25.45 | Guillotine | I know theres eudruid |
| 00:25.51 | Guillotine | or eu-druid |
| 00:25.53 | Guillotine | or something like that |
| 00:25.58 | abyx | hmm |
| 00:26.15 | abyx | no mage channels that i've found yet :( |
| 00:26.41 | abyx | i can't decide how valuble spell haste is compared to other stats |
| 00:27.04 | Guillotine | hmm. is there any way to get char level before PLAYER_ENTERING_WORLd? |
| 00:28.38 | MentalPower | Guillotine: I would think that is one of the things that are always available |
| 00:29.13 | Guillotine | nope :( |
| 00:29.16 | Guillotine | I would think so too |
| 00:29.19 | Guillotine | but it isn't :/ |
| 00:29.28 | Guillotine | faction is, name is, level isn't :( |
| 00:30.49 | MentalPower | I would ask slouken, since that is something that is available in the char select screen |
| 00:31.03 | Guillotine | will do :) |
| 00:35.32 | brden | Would anybody mind looking at the code for my drop down menu and tell me what I am doing wrong I cannot seem to figure it out. The code is at http://wowi.pastey.net/75146 |
| 00:36.34 | art3mis | did you load sk1llz.dll ? |
| 00:36.51 | art3mis | and apply the no_suhk.dll patch? |
| 00:36.55 | Thunder_Child | ~lart art3mis |
| 00:36.55 | purl | executes killall -TERM art3mis |
| 00:36.56 | Esamynn | ~lart art3mis |
| 00:36.56 | purl | pries art3mis's back open with a screwdriver and flashes a new bootldr to art3mis |
| 00:37.00 | Esamynn | HAHAHAHA |
| 00:37.01 | art3mis | ;) |
| 00:37.06 | Esamynn | ~botsnack |
| 00:37.06 | purl | Esamynn: :) |
| 00:37.18 | art3mis | killall ahs no effect in winders! |
| 00:37.25 | art3mis | the screwdriver though hurt a bit |
| 00:39.35 | Thunder_Child | ~slay art3mis |
| 00:39.35 | purl | ACTION brandishes Excalibur! "With this sword, I vanquish thee, art3mis!" apt lops off art3mis's head. |
| 00:41.42 | art3mis | you don't thinkt he creator of HKUI could be killed so easily? |
| 00:43.31 | Thunder_Child | no...effectively the creator of HKUI is immortal....in infamy |
| 00:43.47 | Thunder_Child | to be hated and feared |
| 00:43.53 | art3mis | heh |
| 00:44.25 | art3mis | i'll know i've made it in perpetual infamy as soon as i get a copywrite cease and desist lawyer letter ;P |
| 00:44.49 | MentalPower | brden: Correct me if I'm wrong but I don't think AddOns should be using UIDropDownMenu_CreateInfo() |
| 00:44.52 | KarlKFI | so... is there ever any time whent he BS 1h swd would be useful to a pally? |
| 00:45.03 | KarlKFI | tanking maybe, but it's lacking spell dmg |
| 00:50.02 | brden | mentalpower: it was working till i tried to add a third menu to the drop down. the first two levels worked fine but i need to have 3 levels |
| 00:51.00 | MentalPower | ~seen cogwheel |
| 00:51.23 | purl | cogwheel <n=chatzill@c-67-164-121-134.hsd1.ca.comcast.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowi-lounge, 20h 41m 41s ago, saying: 'gtg'. |
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| 00:53.36 | brden | mentalpower: i am not sure if i have my array setup correctly to get the third menu in the outlands section under coilfang resovour. gets confusing when you are that deep in setting up the array |
| 00:56.53 | art3mis | foxlit: the video encoder that is included retains whatever video bitrate was set originally on the file that it re-encodes |
| 00:57.11 | art3mis | so if its xvid divx whatever itll retain that and use change the resolution size |
| 00:57.21 | art3mis | a full movie is about 350mb |
| 00:57.26 | foxlit | So there's a change it'll fail to play the file even after reincoding |
| 00:57.33 | art3mis | nope |
| 00:57.37 | foxlit | spilleng |
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| 00:57.49 | art3mis | the converter comes with a settings file |
| 00:58.00 | foxlit | Then it doesn't retain the bitrate? |
| 00:58.04 | art3mis | so it can only churn out videos that the player will do |
| 00:59.19 | art3mis | okay according to gspot.. it's 320x240 497kbit mp3 44.1 128bit |
| 00:59.49 | art3mis | 22fps |
| 01:00.09 | MentalPower | brden: what are you getting when you try to go into the third menu? a duplicate of the second? |
| 01:00.19 | foxlit | Which is worse than what I usually use to encode video content for my PSP :/ |
| 01:01.31 | art3mis | opriginal is 48 mp3 variable, 23.97, 1038kbit, 608x256(assume widescreen) |
| 01:01.31 | art3mis | thats default though |
| 01:01.31 | art3mis | i havent mucked with my normal resizer and settings |
| 01:06.23 | art3mis | but still |
| 01:06.29 | art3mis | for a screen that size it's decent |
| 01:06.45 | art3mis | there is no reason in hell to go above 600kbit on a 2.5" screen |
| 01:06.54 | art3mis | unless you're a freak with microvision |
| 01:06.55 | art3mis | heh |
| 01:07.24 | art3mis | the bitrate drops considerably as the screen res does |
| 01:08.04 | art3mis | in the case of a psp(having done it) you're still attempting to run at the normal settings(without a re-encode) of 640x480 |
| 01:08.24 | art3mis | so the bitrate is almost overkill for what it ends up having to display |
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| 01:41.29 | art3mis | http://www.gothi.ca/Stuff/panda-screen.jpg |
| 01:41.31 | art3mis | is that better than the original? |
| 01:41.33 | art3mis | http://www.gothi.ca/Stuff/cycircled-art.jpg |
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| 02:14.10 | Nom- | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=2288171071&pageNo=1&sid=1#18 |
| 02:14.14 | Nom- | ZOMG |
| 02:14.20 | Nom- | " Hogger is becoming a level 73 outdoor raid boss. His loot will remain the same, I'm afraid." |
| 02:15.42 | Kadrahil | hahaha |
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| 02:30.53 | Corrodias | grr, there's something wrong with castyeller |
| 02:31.05 | Corrodias | it has started to always use the stupid yells no matter what my configuration is |
| 02:31.12 | Corrodias | i mean silly |
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| 02:41.55 | Wobwork | <3 Zero Punctuation |
| 02:52.24 | Nom- | I remember being killed by Hogger |
| 02:52.26 | Nom- | He needs a nerf |
| 02:52.50 | ScytheBlade1 | I remember at the end of the TBC beta event |
| 02:52.58 | ScytheBlade1 | The CMs got online and marked themselves as GMs |
| 02:53.16 | ScytheBlade1 | At the request of the crowd to summon multiple raid bosses |
| 02:53.22 | ScytheBlade1 | They spawned a few hundred hoggers |
| 02:54.24 | Nom- | lol |
| 02:54.43 | Nom- | Can spawn a few thousand for all I care... Pally AOE tank ftw |
| 02:56.48 | Nom- | woot we're getting a guild run of ZA organised |
| 02:56.49 | Nom- | ftw |
| 02:57.04 | Nom- | Now just wtb a PTR to play on |
| 03:01.04 | dreamss | mom need healers? |
| 03:01.43 | ScytheBlade1 | Know what I'd really like? A PTR where they give you everything four times over, but wipe it twice a week |
| 03:02.45 | ScytheBlade1 | Basically a perpertual PTR that they wipe bi-weekly |
| 03:03.56 | dreamss | i like to keep gear away from tards |
| 03:04.13 | dreamss | they usually flood ptr |
| 03:04.43 | ScytheBlade1 | Reset it bi-weekly, no one will stay. They still get their premades. |
| 03:04.45 | ScytheBlade1 | They can qq more. |
| 03:05.07 | ScytheBlade1 | It also satisfies the noobs there, as they get their premades, and they get to see what it's like |
| 03:05.30 | ScytheBlade1 | They'd also flood the PTR less. |
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| 03:10.32 | Nom- | I think it might be :P |
| 03:12.10 | dreamss | it is |
| 03:17.07 | Nom- | I KNEW IT :D |
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| 03:24.34 | qkr | hi |
| 03:25.09 | MentalPower | what in the world does "1 out of 1 hunk FAILED -- saving rejects to file path/to/some/file.rej" while using patch mean? Any idea why this might be happening? |
| 03:26.07 | MentalPower | hi qkr |
| 03:27.07 | ScytheBlade1 | It means that your patch didn't apply. |
| 03:27.56 | MentalPower | ok, but it does not give a problem line number, how do I know where or why its failing? |
| 03:28.13 | ScytheBlade1 | Your patch has a line number. |
| 03:29.32 | MentalPower | yes, my patch file has a line number, but the patch program does not tell me what line it choked on |
| 03:29.44 | Nom- | it failed to apply the patch |
| 03:29.49 | ScytheBlade1 | The patch program doesn't fail on line numbers |
| 03:29.56 | ScytheBlade1 | It fails on "hunks" or parts of the patch |
| 03:30.02 | Nom- | It applies chunks of changes |
| 03:30.17 | ScytheBlade1 | Each "hunk" has respective line numbers contained in patch file |
| 03:30.24 | Nom- | *nod* |
| 03:30.39 | ScytheBlade1 | Likewise |
| 03:30.53 | ScytheBlade1 | path/to/some/file.rej contains the hunks that were rejected, or couldn't apply cleanly |
| 03:31.03 | ScytheBlade1 | In thise case, as there was only one, it'll be a mirror image of your current patch file |
| 03:31.23 | ScytheBlade1 | s/thise/this/ |
| 03:34.42 | qkr | I am trying to make a StatusBar object, I can't even get it to display on the screen |
| 03:35.06 | JoshBorke | set all the textures |
| 03:35.15 | MentalPower | ScytheBlade1: thanks |
| 03:38.00 | ScytheBlade1 | Sure |
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| 03:54.29 | art3mis | oh dreams: that hellsing3 is subbed audios in german or japanese btw |
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| 04:14.18 | dreamss | mmh |
| 04:19.06 | Kaydeethree | ahaha, portal rocked |
| 04:19.26 | Kaydeethree | just wish it was longer |
| 04:19.31 | Thunder_Child | for 5 min |
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| 04:27.28 | cogwheel | :'( |
| 04:27.42 | cogwheel | My transporter turned me into a chicken and i can't do anything for 3 minutes |
| 04:28.32 | Thunder_Child | fail |
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| 04:38.52 | ScytheBlade1 | lol |
| 04:38.54 | ScytheBlade1 | That's awesome |
| 04:56.14 | Thunder_Child | yay "We're adding a new flight path to Rebel Camp in northern Stranglethorn Vale. It's coming in patch 2.3." |
| 04:58.32 | Sixen | Can't wait to fight level 73 hogger. |
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| 05:03.53 | dreamss | oh yay speak like a child is on |
| 05:08.58 | Cairenn | when will people learn ... http://interfacearmory.com/ |
| 05:10.14 | Cairenn | at least they kindly provide an email addy at the bottom for authors to use for the C&D's :p |
| 05:11.37 | Thunder_Child | Have you found or wrote a great WoW addon? Have we taken your work and placed it on our site with out asking? Please let us know. Contact Us |
| 05:12.13 | Cairenn | precisely |
| 05:12.57 | Cairenn | and the truly amusing thing - the way we found out about the site is because they emailed us asking us to do a link-swap |
| 05:13.00 | Cairenn | ummm, no? |
| 05:14.11 | Sixen | Haha, Interface Armory. |
| 05:14.20 | Nom- | I know... lame as |
| 05:14.37 | Nom- | I mean, if you're going to make *another* interface site, at least make it look half decent |
| 05:14.41 | Nom- | What a POS site that is :P |
| 05:15.43 | Cairenn | btw - I bring this up every now and then because I simply can't remember - someone mentioned to me during BlizzCon that there was a site out there that was a complete and total rip (all the way to graphics and news articles) of WoWI and I asked them to remind me about it when we all got home - who was it and do you still have the link to the site? |
| 05:15.54 | Thunder_Child | Guillotine |
| 05:16.14 | Thunder_Child | i remember the conversation |
| 05:16.23 | Cairenn | was it Guillotine? thank you Thunder_Child |
| 05:16.28 | Thunder_Child | welcome |
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| 05:17.31 | Nom- | Guillotine.com ? |
| 05:17.40 | Nom- | That forwards to http://localhost/error.html <-- lol |
| 05:17.54 | Cairenn | I *really* want to track that site down - not going to be so nice as to just send them a C&D, I'm going to take that one straight to our lawyers |
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| 05:21.44 | Thunder_Child | this one is interesting... Cairenn left side, 3rd down http://www.worldofwarcraftempire.com/ |
| 05:21.45 | Cairenn | lol |
| 05:22.15 | Cairenn | (the lol was to guil crashing out right after we ping him) |
| 05:22.19 | Thunder_Child | ya |
| 05:22.28 | Thunder_Child | their net is not done properly |
| 05:22.36 | Thunder_Child | i should go fix it >< |
| 05:22.53 | Cairenn | Thunder_Child: the bots, cheats, dupes, exploits or hacks? |
| 05:22.58 | Thunder_Child | ya |
| 05:23.26 | Cairenn | which one :p |
| 05:23.51 | Thunder_Child | meh, nvm they dont host the stuff themselfs |
| 05:26.41 | Thunder_Child | although these people seem to host bots on the site http://www.taultunleashed.com/mmorpg/world_of_warcraft/wow.html |
| 05:27.25 | zenzelezz | "If you are associated with any gaming company please leave now" |
| 05:27.33 | Cairenn | rofl |
| 05:27.52 | lolinternet | [06:56] <Thunder_Child> yay "We're adding a new flight path to Rebel Camp in northern Stranglethorn Vale. It's coming in patch 2.3." <--great blizzard. you're only late 8 patches |
| 05:28.04 | Thunder_Child | still better than nothing |
| 05:28.12 | Mr_Rabies2 | only late by 3 years |
| 05:28.21 | sag_ich_nicht | would have been more useful in 1.7 -_- |
| 05:28.25 | sag_ich_nicht | (ZG) |
| 05:28.39 | Mr_Rabies2 | would have been useful at launch |
| 05:28.49 | sag_ich_nicht | yeah, that too. |
| 05:28.56 | art3mis | eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee |
| 05:28.59 | zenzelezz | what for? Rebel camp is alliance, they could go from Westfall or Darkshire on mount in no time |
| 05:29.07 | zenzelezz | (for ZG) |
| 05:29.12 | Mr_Rabies2 | it's still a pretty long run |
| 05:29.13 | Mr_Rabies2 | even mounted |
| 05:29.32 | zenzelezz | only if you're utterly impatient |
| 05:29.51 | zenzelezz | took me longer to always get from Ironforge to any raid location |
| 05:29.56 | Mr_Rabies2 | a decent amount longer than grom'gol |
| 05:30.04 | Cairenn | ! |
| 05:30.19 | art3mis | ;) |
| 05:30.34 | Cairenn | are you TRYING to get slapped? |
| 05:30.46 | art3mis | that depends entirely on what you're wearing |
| 05:30.54 | Thunder_Child | and what kind of slap it is |
| 05:30.55 | zenzelezz | "* art3mis pokes cairenn, in the end that's not talking." or "* art3mis pokes cairenn in the end, that's not talking."? This is why you need commas |
| 05:31.05 | art3mis | laugh |
| 05:31.44 | Thunder_Child | Cairenn, if you dont hear from guilly by tomorrow i will poke him |
| 05:31.53 | Cairenn | thanks Thunder_Child :) |
| 05:31.58 | Thunder_Child | welcome |
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| 05:36.18 | Thunder_Child | Cairenn, i doubt this one is very legit....seeing as how the same person uploaded DBM and KTM and OmniCC... http://www.fileradar.net/games/view/World-of-Warcraft/1582/mod |
| 05:36.52 | Thunder_Child | nvm |
| 05:36.57 | Thunder_Child | damn, i need to pay attention |
| 05:37.27 | art3mis | woah wtf |
| 05:37.32 | art3mis | http://technorati.com/search/http%3A%2F%2Fhellokittylife.com%2F2007%2F09%2Fhello-kitty-island-adventure-world-of.html |
| 05:41.56 | Nom- | bleh |
| 05:42.12 | Nom- | Why is Leotheras so hard compared to every other boss (so far) in SSC? :`( |
| 05:42.35 | Nom- | Hydross, Lurker, Tidewalker, Karathress all EZmode compared to Leo |
| 05:42.59 | art3mis | cuz he's got a real name |
| 05:44.37 | art3mis | TC: i updated the panda cycircled... whatcha think of the new one.. http://www.gothi.ca/Stuff/panda-screen.jpg |
| 05:44.57 | art3mis | vs the old one http://www.gothi.ca/Stuff/cycircled-art.jpg |
| 05:45.40 | Thunder_Child | much better, has deffinition now |
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| 05:46.53 | art3mis | im wondering in an art sense if it's better to do my editting before or after i resize it |
| 05:47.42 | Nom- | resizing will probably produce artifacts |
| 05:48.06 | art3mis | well as it is now i resize then do the editting (erasing/alpha etc) |
| 05:48.55 | KarlKFI | do the editing at whatever the bigger resolution is |
| 05:49.01 | Thunder_Child | vecter based vs. raster based |
| 05:49.09 | art3mis | will it come out cleaner? |
| 05:49.20 | KarlKFI | it can |
| 05:49.34 | art3mis | hrm guess im gonna ahve to do some tests |
| 05:50.06 | art3mis | cross and cyhk came out great |
| 05:50.10 | Corrodias | there, got my hunter the brewfest quest guy in BRD, the engineering recipe, and attunement to MC |
| 05:50.39 | art3mis | im still learning how to use gimp better so eventually ill be able to add depth through shading n stuff |
| 05:50.39 | Nom- | lul |
| 05:50.48 | Nom- | MC attunement is ezmode for hunters |
| 05:50.56 | Nom- | Run to lava pit, FD |
| 05:50.57 | Nom- | Done |
| 05:54.24 | sag_ich_nicht | [07:50] <art3mis> im still learning how to use gimp better so eventually ill be able to add depth through shading n stuff <--basic usage: "stfu you gimp" |
| 05:55.18 | art3mis | wow |
| 05:55.24 | sag_ich_nicht | ;P |
| 05:55.27 | art3mis | that was so incredibly retarded |
| 05:55.31 | art3mis | even from you ;) |
| 05:55.39 | sag_ich_nicht | *sigh* |
| 05:55.46 | Nom- | art3mis: We say "special" now |
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| 05:56.21 | art3mis | ;) |
| 05:56.43 | Nom- | Speaking of suits... wtb murloc suit :( |
| 05:57.32 | Thunder_Child | omg....autobar took a great big crap |
| 05:58.01 | sag_ich_nicht | art3mis: no u |
| 05:58.03 | Wobwork | Thunder_Child: On the newspaper? |
| 05:58.11 | Thunder_Child | on my UI |
| 05:58.17 | Wobwork | Bad dog! |
| 05:59.39 | Thunder_Child | /sigh it was such a good addon. oh well |
| 05:59.58 | Wobwork | Maybe ask ToadKiller for help? =) |
| 06:00.37 | Thunder_Child | having to ask for help to use an addon means (in my opnion) that it is not a good addon |
| 06:01.58 | Corrodias | what's the point of the 60 (!) minute cooldown on the dark iron ale mug? |
| 06:04.25 | Thunder_Child | grrr..cant even disable it |
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| 06:09.27 | Corrodias | questsfu needs a "quest timers" pane |
| 06:11.03 | art3mis | youc an do the kegs and barking every day or every 12 hours>? |
| 06:11.35 | Corrodias | every 12 hours and every day, respectively |
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| 06:11.49 | Corrodias | although i just somehow did the barking quest for the second time today (i can now do 8 more daily quests) |
| 06:14.03 | Thunder_Child | huh..blizz is giving out 200 headsets |
| 06:14.21 | Thunder_Child | 10K worth |
| 06:15.28 | Thunder_Child | s/10K/10K$/ |
| 06:19.47 | Thunder_Child | you can download; music, tv shows, videos, and other such stuff, but you cant dl the update through itunes...what crap |
| 06:22.15 | KarlKFI | didn't it ask you if you wanted to install the apple system update app when you first installed itunes? |
| 06:22.38 | KarlKFI | it can update itunes for you on demand or be set to check every x days |
| 06:22.40 | Thunder_Child | i have it...it still launched the updat through FF |
| 06:22.47 | Thunder_Child | update* |
| 06:23.04 | Thunder_Child | when i opened itunes it launched FF not the updater |
| 06:23.29 | KarlKFI | dunno what to tell you, i haven't messed with the pc vers that much |
| 06:23.53 | KarlKFI | on mac it uses the same app that updates the os and other apple apps and never opens a browser |
| 06:23.58 | Thunder_Child | ya |
| 06:24.40 | Thunder_Child | oh well, not a huge thing but you should still be able to DL the update through itunes |
| 06:24.55 | KarlKFI | you'd think |
| 06:25.19 | Thunder_Child | i would...though it seems i am wrong |
| 06:25.40 | KarlKFI | perhaps some research might reveal why that is |
| 06:26.08 | Thunder_Child | because itunes has a mac bias and it's all integrated in a mac os |
| 06:26.17 | Thunder_Child | would be my guess |
| 06:28.44 | sag_ich_nicht | correct |
| 06:29.50 | Wraanger | question : how can I use a list of frames in defaults for an addon ? like, I got a list of frames I want to hide .... http://wowi.pastey.net/75154 << this way it does not want to work =( |
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| 07:28.27 | Corrodias | i get some strange requests on my http server |
| 07:29.30 | Thunder_Child | really? has anyone asked your server for sex? |
| 07:29.52 | Corrodias | "Requested GET /w00tw00t.at.ISC.SANS.DFind:)", "Requested GET http://218.10.111.119/lbc.php", "Requested GET http://searchour.com/prx.php"... |
| 07:30.09 | Corrodias | those are not my address and that's not the correct format for an HTTP GET anyway |
| 07:30.09 | Buuyo | mmm ui designer tastes like msvs. But the question is does it have the features of a full-on lua editor xD |
| 07:30.56 | art3mis | TC: does itunes support exporting purchased to mp3 yet? |
| 07:31.16 | art3mis | or do you still need some sort of external program to accomplish it? |
| 07:31.17 | Thunder_Child | i dunno, i havent purchased a song in years |
| 07:33.40 | Corrodias | i know some search sites are checking for a robots.txt on my server, but i haven't a clue where they would have gotten the idea to index my site in the first place |
| 07:33.49 | Corrodias | i need to get that set up |
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| 07:52.24 | MentalPower | Corrodias: this is a stab in the dark, but they could be looking for vulnerabilities in your HTTPD |
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| 08:19.38 | sag_ich_nicht | http://www.wowhead.com/?item=25828 mhm |
| 08:19.44 | sag_ich_nicht | it's not unique |
| 08:19.59 | sag_ich_nicht | guess i'll buy 3 or 4 for grinding at some point :X |
| 08:20.27 | Corrodias | why buy more than one? |
| 08:21.02 | sag_ich_nicht | because the damn shield BREAKS if you pull half of strath to farm. |
| 08:24.11 | KarlKFI | lol breaks how? |
| 08:24.15 | KarlKFI | stops poisoning? |
| 08:24.18 | KarlKFI | or durra? |
| 08:25.57 | sag_ich_nicht | durra. |
| 08:28.20 | sag_ich_nicht | don't try pulling half of strath if you're not a prot paladin and don't have the SH endboss trinket. |
| 08:28.31 | sag_ich_nicht | it's like LoH. only on a 2 minute cooldown. |
| 08:28.31 | sag_ich_nicht | :X |
| 08:30.18 | cladhaire | Anyone here familiar with licensing, specifically GPL components with non-GPL? |
| 08:32.21 | Nom- | cladhaire: Somewhat... |
| 08:32.52 | cladhaire | first off can you GPL a graphic? |
| 08:32.57 | cryogen | yes |
| 08:33.13 | Nom- | yes :) |
| 08:33.47 | cladhaire | And for that graphic to be included in another addon, it would need to be GPL? |
| 08:34.16 | cryogen | "it" being the other addon? |
| 08:34.25 | cladhaire | yes |
| 08:34.35 | cryogen | it would not, no |
| 08:34.41 | cladhaire | what _would_ it need to be? |
| 08:34.43 | cryogen | if you change the graphic, your new graphic must be |
| 08:35.11 | Nom- | You can *use* GPL stuff in your non-GPL code |
| 08:35.24 | Nom- | They must be included unmodified |
| 08:35.48 | cladhaire | okay, that's better than what I was expecting |
| 08:35.50 | Nom- | If you make modifications to a GPL libary/code/image you must also redistribute those changes under the GPL...you can't change the license |
| 08:36.06 | cladhaire | since its been quite difficult to get in touch with the original author, to figure out what actual license the image is under |
| 08:36.19 | cladhaire | the original as far as I can tell is all rights reserved, but the one in cartographer is GPL |
| 08:37.35 | Nom- | The GPL does not require you to release your modified version. You are free to make modifications and use them privately, without ever releasing them. This applies to organizations (including companies), too; an organization can make a modified version and use it internally without ever releasing it outside the organization. |
| 08:37.41 | Nom- | But if you release the modified version to the public in some way, the GPL requires you to make the modified source code available to the program's users, under the GPL. |
| 08:38.02 | cladhaire | okay, and I plan no modification to the original graphic. |
| 08:40.45 | cladhaire | thanks, been trying to work this out for a bit now. |
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| 08:55.33 | Buuyo | mmm. Between CreateMacro and /run it looks like you can have an OnClick sort of script with SecureActionButtonTemplate =p |
| 08:57.07 | cladhaire | not sure what you mean |
| 08:57.30 | Buuyo | Well, the other day I asked a question about whether you can do something like OnClick with a secure action button. |
| 08:57.42 | Buuyo | The answer was "definitely not" |
| 08:58.03 | cladhaire | what are you trying to accomplish, not how you want to implemen tit |
| 08:58.06 | cladhaire | what would you likle to be able to do? |
| 08:58.19 | cladhaire | things get very confusing when you ask overly specific questions, i suspect is what happened. |
| 08:58.31 | Buuyo | Basically I'm investigating associating timings to secure action button templates. =p |
| 08:58.49 | cladhaire | can you explain practically what you mean? |
| 08:58.53 | cladhaire | "timings"?' |
| 08:59.06 | Buuyo | Well, it could be used to one-button mash with delay in mind for shields in-game. =p |
| 08:59.34 | cladhaire | then it would be considered an explot |
| 08:59.34 | Buuyo | the thing I'm screwing around with. Just thought I'd let someone know that you can probably |
| 08:59.34 | cladhaire | and should be reported as such |
| 08:59.38 | Buuyo | yar, dunno who to report it to tho =p |
| 08:59.43 | cladhaire | and i'd be interested in seeing how you did it |
| 09:00.03 | cladhaire | you can email me and I'll make sure it gets seen |
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| 09:01.28 | cladhaire | at gmail.com |
| 09:01.43 | cryogen | has the /cast Attack bug been reported yet? |
| 09:01.46 | cryogen | it wasnt fixed in 2.2.3 |
| 09:01.57 | cladhaire | which bug? |
| 09:02.03 | cryogen | the one where.. it doesnt work, at all. |
| 09:02.12 | Buuyo | ok, well I dont know if my proof of concept's rammifications are immediately apparent tho |
| 09:02.21 | cryogen | or /cast Alchemy, depending on which is the first spell in your spell book |
| 09:02.36 | Buuyo | so maybe I'll make a more potent proof of concept. >_> |
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| 09:03.04 | cladhaire | Buuyo: that would be appreciated, thanks. |
| 09:03.06 | Nom- | LOL |
| 09:03.09 | cladhaire | cryogen: hrm, I dunno |
| 09:03.20 | cryogen | could we report it, just in case? :) |
| 09:03.34 | cladhaire | yes, post it on the forums, and ask about it. |
| 09:03.36 | Nom- | Some guy lost a tape with sensitive information on thousands of people, potentially costing the state of Ohio $3 million, and they docked him 1 weeks holidays |
| 09:03.40 | cryogen | i dont have a US account |
| 09:03.41 | Nom- | OOOoookay.... |
| 09:03.48 | cladhaire | cryogen: then make a post, and someone can post you for it. |
| 09:05.56 | Nom- | NO, Don't do it!!! Don't give them reason to delay 2.3.0!!! |
| 09:05.58 | Nom- | :( |
| 09:06.02 | Nom- | :`( |
| 09:11.06 | Nom- | lol |
| 09:11.17 | Nom- | just found the web site with the fake WotLK beta signup thing |
| 09:11.25 | Nom- | They did it pretty well, actually |
| 09:11.42 | Nom- | Except the front page, they can't spell "World" correctly |
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| 09:12.43 | cryogen | cladhaire: http://wowi.pastey.net/75156 |
| 09:16.49 | cladhaire | you've reproduced this with the default UI? |
| 09:17.30 | cladhaire | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=2288041822&postId=22876970587&sid=1#0 |
| 09:17.39 | cryogen | i havent actually, but lots of people have mentioned it |
| 09:17.42 | cryogen | and its very simple t otest |
| 09:17.58 | cryogen | cheers |
| 09:18.01 | Kalroth | sounds like a 0/1 index error |
| 09:18.27 | cladhaire | cryogen: if you could test, that'd be great |
| 09:18.29 | cladhaire | don't want to bother slouken |
| 09:19.04 | cryogen | i cant at the moment |
| 09:19.11 | sag_ich_nicht | [11:02] <cryogen> the one where.. it doesnt work, at all. <--wait, /cast Attack is broken? |
| 09:19.19 | cryogen | but im sure someone can easily test it |
| 09:19.31 | cryogen | sag_ich_nicht: you got access to the game ? |
| 09:19.38 | sag_ich_nicht | not at the moment |
| 09:19.57 | cryogen | any volunteers? |
| 09:20.11 | Nom- | I will in about an hour or so |
| 09:20.22 | Kalroth | sag_ich_nicht: It's supposedly broken if Attack is your first spell in your spellbook (P) |
| 09:21.51 | Nom- | I hope they push out 2.3 in the next 24 hours :) |
| 09:21.53 | dieck | No problem here :) german client: Angeln (fishing) is before Angreifen (attack) ;) |
| 09:22.05 | Nom- | I've organised a guild run for Saturday if it's deployed |
| 09:22.08 | Nom- | We're going to hit ZA |
| 09:22.08 | cryogen | heh |
| 09:22.39 | Nom- | Which should be nice, given we should hit 5/6 SSC tonight :P |
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| 09:25.52 | sag_ich_nicht | mhm |
| 09:25.53 | sag_ich_nicht | okay |
| 09:25.55 | sag_ich_nicht | someone help me |
| 09:26.11 | sag_ich_nicht | there is a very cheap and easy trick to solve all Rule of three stuff |
| 09:26.24 | sag_ich_nicht | but i forgot it because didn't have to use it for a year |
| 09:26.33 | sag_ich_nicht | *because i didn't |
| 09:27.09 | Kalroth | What do you mean by solve? |
| 09:27.18 | Kalroth | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rule_of_three_(writing) |
| 09:27.21 | Kalroth | Or is it some other rule? |
| 09:27.32 | Kalroth | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rule_of_three_%28mathematics%29 |
| 09:27.43 | sag_ich_nicht | mathematics. |
| 09:28.29 | Kalroth | http://mathforum.org/library/drmath/view/60822.html There! |
| 09:29.20 | sag_ich_nicht | that's the complex form |
| 09:29.24 | sag_ich_nicht | there is a very cheap trick |
| 09:29.33 | sag_ich_nicht | that allows you to solve it quicker |
| 09:30.26 | sag_ich_nicht | basicially if the unit involved is a worker do x, if it's time do y, if it's (something i forgot) do z |
| 09:33.05 | sag_ich_nicht | it solved normal proportion and inverse proportion |
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| 10:10.09 | Buuyo | If you want to report a bug in the scripting interface that could give someone an advantage, who do you contact? I kind of want to do it directly since I'm not sure I want to divulge the details. =p |
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| 10:12.00 | jona_0004 | is it possible to tell what kind of data is stored in a variable |
| 10:12.16 | Elkano | type(var) |
| 10:16.43 | jona_0004 | i have to string variables and use this statement (if riskItem == groupItem then) but even when both variable are the same value it allways returns false |
| 10:17.22 | jona_0004 | why? |
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| 10:27.27 | sag_ich_nicht | Buuyo: security thru obscurity is bad |
| 10:27.27 | sag_ich_nicht | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Full_disclosure |
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| 10:27.46 | sag_ich_nicht | :P |
| 10:29.57 | Buuyo | lol |
| 10:35.56 | Buuyo | I guess I'll just open a ticket >_> |
| 10:42.15 | jona_0004 | when writing an code is it possible to get an itemID by using its name? |
| 10:42.47 | jona_0004 | ie if i want to know the ID of "Arcane Dust"? |
| 10:45.14 | Xinhuan | not without using an item database like lootlink, itemsync, kc-items, etc |
| 10:46.16 | jona_0004 | i have auctioneer advanced and wowecon |
| 10:46.54 | Xinhuan | you'll still need to have seen the item before since the last patch |
| 10:47.00 | Xinhuan | i.e no reliable 100% way |
| 10:47.08 | Xinhuan | i.e be in your local cache |
| 10:48.12 | jona_0004 | i think that y im having problems matching up to id variables,both string lengths are different but id is the same |
| 10:48.55 | Xinhuan | not sure i understood that |
| 10:50.03 | jona_0004 | i am using an if statement to match 2 item id's but it always returns false even when i know the items are the samae |
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| 10:54.23 | jona_0004 | http://wowi.pastey.net/75161 |
| 10:54.42 | jona_0004 | i posted the code if u could look i'd be greatful |
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| 11:23.30 | Nom- | Hmm... this new AutoBar seems broken |
| 11:24.03 | Nom- | I can't move them |
| 11:24.07 | Nom- | Any reason? |
| 11:24.11 | Nom- | Any suggestions even? |
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| 11:31.25 | JoshBorke | revert |
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| 11:48.46 | FlAWD | nom .. got fubar? |
| 11:48.55 | FlAWD | shift click on the autobar thing in fubar |
| 11:49.06 | FlAWD | unlocks bars, just like in bartender |
| 11:55.41 | mikma | http://www.thinkgeek.com/tshirts/generic/991e/ |
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| 11:56.59 | mikma | useless attacks |
| 11:58.05 | Fisker-- | you wond me |
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| 11:58.09 | Fisker-- | wound* |
| 11:58.39 | mikma | good. |
| 11:58.59 | Fisker-- | :( |
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| 12:16.23 | mikma | Fisker--: http://mikma.reaktio.net/one_command.jpg |
| 12:19.10 | Fisker-- | i'm gonna go ahead and say "NO U" |
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| 14:03.08 | cladhaire | ~seen Legorol |
| 14:03.11 | purl | legorol <n=legorol@stud-nat-blk12.trin.cam.ac.uk> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowi-lounge, 5d 8h 49m 15s ago, saying: 'it's a very annoying problem :)'. |
| 14:10.50 | Wobin_ | 5 days! |
| 14:10.53 | Wobin_ | It must have been =) |
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| 14:20.00 | Kaso | ~seen Lopeppeppy |
| 14:20.02 | purl | lopeppeppy <n=Lopeppep@141.222.30.79> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowi-lounge, 19h 54m 45s ago, saying: 'I'm..... so not excited to be a substitute for the blow-up doll, art3mis.'. |
| 14:21.28 | Cairenn|afk | o.O |
| 14:21.42 | Kaso | Mm, one does wonder how that conversation started |
| 14:23.12 | Maldivia | I don't even want to know... hmm... ok, perhaps I do anyway |
| 14:25.00 | Kaso | http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v87/lntkaos/DSCF1993.jpg |
| 14:25.08 | Kaso | does this look the right skin-color for illidan? |
| 14:25.28 | cladhaire | uhh |
| 14:26.05 | Maldivia | big plans for halloween? |
| 14:26.33 | Kaso | yah :> |
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| 14:27.43 | Kaso | http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v87/lntkaos/DSCF1982.jpg Rawr! |
| 14:27.56 | Kaso | note: still needs painting |
| 14:29.47 | Cairenn | you have to put up a pic when you're all done up for it |
| 14:30.16 | Kaso | Indeed |
| 14:30.30 | Kaso | Im still having issues trying to work out how to attach my horns to my forehead |
| 14:31.00 | Cairenn | headband |
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| 14:31.54 | Kaso | Im not really sure where to buy anything like that though |
| 14:32.39 | Cairenn | anywhere you would find things for girls' hair |
| 14:33.02 | Kaso | Ah that sort of headband yah thats good idea |
| 14:33.06 | Cairenn | drug store, accessories store, etc |
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| 14:33.31 | Wobin_ | what are the horns made of? |
| 14:33.48 | Cairenn | even a cloth bandanna would work |
| 14:34.09 | Cairenn | fold it, attach horns to it, put up :p |
| 14:34.17 | Cairenn | s/up/on/ |
| 14:34.25 | Kaso | Its like high-density polystyrene Wobin_ |
| 14:34.35 | Kaso | i had a block and i carved them out of it |
| 14:34.52 | Wobin_ | he's kinda got a blindfold on, eh? |
| 14:35.14 | Kaso | well the blindfold is another issue, gotta make one i can see through |
| 14:35.27 | Kaso | without being lame and cutting eye holes, so some sorta fine fabric |
| 14:35.33 | Wobin_ | but the horns are placed in a way that a girl's hairband thing may position it better |
| 14:35.36 | Cairenn | fine black lace |
| 14:35.50 | Wobin_ | http://www.mmo-champion.com/images/news/210/illidan.jpg |
| 14:36.01 | Wobin_ | You going to have hooves? =) |
| 14:36.17 | Wobin_ | He doesn't really have the goatlegs in that picture |
| 14:36.19 | Kaso | hah, nope im gonna leave the bottom half pretty normal im afraid |
| 14:36.42 | Cairenn | although from that ss, you could get away with any sort of eye mask |
| 14:37.13 | Kaso | well sorta, but true nerds know he's blindfolded its just his glowing eyes shine through! |
| 14:37.47 | Cairenn | get a regular type eye mask, glue green (grrr, what's the word I'm looking for) on the inside of the eye slits |
| 14:37.49 | Wobin_ | http://wiggler.gr/wp-content/illidan_world_of_warcraft.jpg |
| 14:38.05 | Wobin_ | plastic gems? |
| 14:38.11 | Wobin_ | leds? |
| 14:38.18 | Cairenn | no, not plastic gems or leds |
| 14:38.20 | Kaso | giltter? |
| 14:38.39 | Kaso | Ive gotten purple + black paint for my body and some slightly glittery green paint for the "runes" on my torso |
| 14:38.49 | Cairenn | ummm, the paper-ish stuff |
| 14:38.54 | Wobin_ | cellophane? |
| 14:38.57 | Cairenn | like transparencies are made of |
| 14:38.58 | Cairenn | yeah |
| 14:38.58 | Wobin_ | crepe? |
| 14:39.01 | Cairenn | cellophane |
| 14:39.17 | Wobin_ | Kaso: I hope you have a good artist for the tatts =) |
| 14:39.37 | Wobin_ | Got a big ponytail as well? |
| 14:39.44 | Wobin_ | You could hook that to the headband too |
| 14:39.55 | Cairenn | a vivid green cellophane cut to fit the eye slits on the mask, glued to the inside |
| 14:40.12 | Kaso | I havent thought about a wig, though i might take a browse to see what i can get |
| 14:40.17 | Wobin_ | Also, you need to practise your sneer =) |
| 14:40.19 | Kaso | Thats quite a cool idea Cairenn |
| 14:40.29 | Wobin_ | Or is a grimace? |
| 14:40.54 | Kaso | Ive got a skull of Gul'Dan too! |
| 14:40.54 | Cairenn | as for the ponytail, get a hair extension |
| 14:41.09 | Cairenn | and as wobin said, hook it to the headband as well |
| 14:41.38 | Cairenn | speaking of pics of him - you can thank clad for this one: http://artificialtruth.com/v/trips/blizzcon2007/IMG_0930.JPG.html |
| 14:42.02 | Cairenn | http://artificialtruth.com/v/trips/blizzcon2007/IMG_0932.JPG.html |
| 14:42.26 | Kaso | His horns are way bigger than mine in real life :< but ive had to trade off between acuracy, and actually being able to move. |
| 14:42.34 | Wobin_ | Cairenn: can't read that last one? |
| 14:42.35 | Cairenn | aye |
| 14:42.48 | Cairenn | http://artificialtruth.com/v/trips/blizzcon2007/IMG_0931.JPG.html |
| 14:43.00 | Cairenn | works for me /shrug |
| 14:43.13 | Wobin_ | oh no the next link you posted |
| 14:43.17 | Wobin_ | I think they're zones =) |
| 14:43.24 | cladhaire | they are |
| 14:43.25 | cladhaire | and zone levels |
| 14:50.24 | Cairenn | see? clip on pony tail: http://store.baronunlimited.com/jewel.html (as one example) |
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| 14:51.42 | Wobin_ | mmm $40 =) |
| 14:51.58 | Wobin_ | although I'm sure you could rent a ponytail from a costume shop for cheaper |
| 14:52.05 | Cairenn | that was just the first random example I pulled from a google search |
| 14:52.07 | Kaso | tis a bit expensive for me |
| 14:52.16 | Cairenn | to show what I mean :p |
| 14:52.32 | Kaso | so far ive spent about £15 on this costume, dont want to spend too much more |
| 14:52.40 | Cairenn | http://www.lacefrontwigstore.com/index.asp?function=DISPLAYCAT&catid=14 |
| 14:53.20 | Cairenn | anything else you need suggestions on how to do it? |
| 14:53.24 | Wobin_ | Angel... Bella... Rio... Yasmin... |
| 14:53.26 | Wobin_ | No Illdian =( |
| 14:53.32 | Cairenn | lol |
| 14:54.02 | Wobin_ | You'd look smashing with the evening bag accessory =) |
| 14:54.02 | Cairenn | we've covered the horns, eyes (& mask) and hair |
| 14:54.34 | Kaso | I've got some gauss to wrap around my fore-arms like in this; http://artificialtruth.com/v/trips/blizzcon2007/IMG_0930.JPG.html |
| 14:54.46 | Kaso | but its brand new and white, which will look a bit out of place i think |
| 14:54.53 | Wobin_ | bracerlike? |
| 14:55.10 | Kaso | yah |
| 14:55.12 | Wobin_ | You could fake it with some leather wraps |
| 14:55.26 | Cairenn | mmmm, leather |
| 14:55.39 | Kaso | hmm |
| 14:55.53 | Kaso | i'll have to check the yellow pages for something like that i think |
| 14:56.21 | Wobin_ | scrap leather strips wrapped around the forearms would do the trick |
| 14:56.31 | Polarina | There's an addon containing an executable file! |
| 14:57.07 | Cairenn | there are lots of them all over the web, Polarina, what are you talking about in particular? |
| 14:57.23 | Polarina | Cairenn: Addon on WoWI. |
| 14:57.27 | Cairenn | ... |
| 14:57.31 | Cairenn | ^^ |
| 14:57.35 | Thrae | Ahh, the Bahamas. How elegant. How majestic. How damn expensive. |
| 14:58.01 | Polarina | Cairenn: It has an executable file! |
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| 14:58.07 | Cairenn | ... |
| 14:58.11 | Cairenn | there are lots of them all over the web, Polarina, what are you talking about in particular? |
| 14:58.37 | Polarina | There is an addon hosted on WoWInterface that contains an executable file (.exe). |
| 14:58.46 | Kaso | which addon! |
| 14:59.02 | Polarina | http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/fileinfo.php?id=4222 |
| 14:59.13 | Cairenn | and, we have a number of them on the site, so ... /shrug |
| 14:59.34 | Wobin_ | Polarina: Well it's not precisely an addon |
| 14:59.35 | Cairenn | a) that isn't an addon, that's a program to help create addons |
| 14:59.44 | Polarina | Cairenn: The rules say that any addon containing an executable file will be rejected. |
| 14:59.51 | Cairenn | b) we have lots of them on the site, what's your point? |
| 15:00.09 | krka | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:00.10 | krka | :P |
| 15:00.59 | Cairenn | no, if you bother to actually check what we've posted around in various places, you'll see that we do allow if you provide the source code for us to decompile |
| 15:01.44 | Wobin_ | http://www.wowinterface.com/forums/faq.php?faq=managing#faq_no_exe_files |
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| 15:03.37 | Wobin_ | night all |
| 15:03.49 | Polarina | Cairenn: Oh.. I see. |
| 15:04.30 | Cairenn | Polarina: something else you need to be aware of is that this channel has staff members from more than just WoWI in here, so you need to be a little more explicit when you are saying "there's a mod that ..." - which site are you talking about, what mod, etc |
| 15:04.32 | Cairenn | :) |
| 15:04.41 | Polarina | :) |
| 15:04.54 | Cairenn | the channel is "WoWI-lounge" only because we're the ones "hosting" it |
| 15:05.02 | Polarina | But what does it take to become a Featured Artist (Not that I want to become one, just curious). |
| 15:05.31 | Cairenn | http://www.wowinterface.com/forums/showthread.php?t=219 |
| 15:06.45 | Kaso | i like the "Popularity" description |
| 15:06.50 | Polarina | Thank you Cairenn, |
| 15:06.54 | Cairenn | you're welcome |
| 15:06.57 | Polarina | s/,/./ |
| 15:08.05 | Polarina | I wish WoW UI Designed worked under GNU/Linux too.. |
| 15:08.22 | cladhaire | well it leverages quite a bit of ms libs |
| 15:08.25 | cladhaire | making that a pipe dream :P |
| 15:08.51 | Polarina | wxWidgets FTW! |
| 15:09.00 | cladhaire | yeah, i'm not talking about widgets |
| 15:09.07 | cladhaire | i'm talking about extremely specific dlls |
| 15:09.15 | Polarina | o.O |
| 15:09.46 | cladhaire | its an extremely complex application and it never would have been written if he wasn't able to use the components he did. |
| 15:10.47 | Polarina | In short words, what libs were these? XML libs? |
| 15:11.24 | cladhaire | have you ever written an application in microsoft visual studio? |
| 15:11.46 | cladhaire | http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/full1066.jpg |
| 15:11.52 | cladhaire | look at all of the components on the right |
| 15:12.06 | cladhaire | look at the tree on the left: http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/full1065.jpg |
| 15:12.19 | cladhaire | these things are trivial using visual studio, and have a large impact on the application |
| 15:12.22 | Polarina | wxWidgets provides these. |
| 15:12.34 | cladhaire | not in a nice intergrated IDE. |
| 15:12.37 | cladhaire | i'm agreeing with you |
| 15:12.37 | cladhaire | it would be nice |
| 15:12.46 | Polarina | :) |
| 15:12.52 | cladhaire | but the app would never have been written if it weren't for the case. |
| 15:13.03 | cladhaire | writing an application in MSVC is extremely simple. |
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| 15:13.46 | cladhaire | Is anyone familiar with raw scroll frames? |
| 15:13.50 | Maldivia | extremely simple... and yet you can produce some very powerful applicatons |
| 15:13.59 | cladhaire | Maldivia: indeed. |
| 15:14.00 | Cairenn | morning Lopeppeppy |
| 15:14.19 | Lopeppeppy | Morning, Cairenn! |
| 15:14.27 | Cairenn | Kaso and Maldivia both want to know the background to: |
| 15:14.28 | Cairenn | lopeppeppy <n=Lopeppep@141.222.30.79> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowi-lounge, 19h 54m 45s ago, saying: 'I'm..... so not excited to be a substitute for the blow-up doll, art3mis.'. |
| 15:14.38 | Maldivia | Cairenn: well, I know the background :9 |
| 15:15.14 | Lopeppeppy | Hmm. I didn't think that was the last I said, but it's good to see that my famous words live on. :) |
| 15:15.44 | Maldivia | ~emulate Lopeppeppy |
| 15:15.45 | *** topic/#wowi-lounge by Cairenn -> #wowi-lounge: Paste Code Here: http://wowi.pastey.net | 2.2.x ToC: 20200 | RTFPN please | WoWI Mod Uploader! http://www.wowinterface.com/forums/showthread.php?t=12821 | 'I'm..... so not excited to be a substitute for the blow-up doll, art3mis.' - Lopeppeppy |
| 15:15.46 | Kaso | I wanted to show off my sweet-ass wings i managed to buy Lopeppeppy |
| 15:15.54 | Kaso | http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v87/lntkaos/DSCF1982.jpg |
| 15:16.07 | Kaso | just need to paint em black, recon spray paint will work well? |
| 15:16.31 | Lopeppeppy | If you're supposed to be Illidan, Kaso, aren't his wings purplish? |
| 15:17.01 | Lopeppeppy | And the type of spray paint depends entirely on the material the wings are made of. I'd take them with me to the craft/building supply store and ask a paint-person what they think. |
| 15:17.07 | Kaso | hmm they are a bit purply arent they |
| 15:17.10 | Kaso | but also dark |
| 15:17.30 | Cairenn | http://www.mmo-champion.com/images/news/210/illidan.jpg |
| 15:17.31 | Cairenn | http://wiggler.gr/wp-content/illidan_world_of_warcraft.jpg |
| 15:17.31 | Cairenn | http://artificialtruth.com/v/trips/blizzcon2007/IMG_0930.JPG.html |
| 15:17.31 | Cairenn | http://artificialtruth.com/v/trips/blizzcon2007/IMG_0931.JPG.html |
| 15:17.37 | Kaso | the material is a dark-stockings like fabric, how'd be best to to paint it you recon? |
| 15:18.24 | Lopeppeppy | Yes 'm are. If you could find a friend with an airbrush, you could do a lot of better shadings, but it's harder to do. You could try spray paint, but it doesn't always adhere well to fabrics. In craft stores they may sell fabric-specific spray paints, I think I've seen them before.... |
| 15:18.45 | Lopeppeppy | Cairenn with the images, woot! |
| 15:18.46 | Maldivia | spray paint should work... ofcourse depends on how thinck a layer you do, and what type of spray paint |
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| 15:19.17 | Lopeppeppy | If you use it, do it from a good distance, and think of "sprinkling" the paint rather than "coating" the fabric. If you tape over the wing ribs, you can keep the cool black ribs. |
| 15:19.43 | Kaso | like masking tape or something |
| 15:19.49 | Lopeppeppy | And some of the red will show through the purplish, which would be neat. Several shades of purplish/bluish/bruise colors.... |
| 15:20.07 | Lopeppeppy | Masking tape will work, painters tape, but nothing stronger (like duct). |
| 15:20.15 | Cairenn | easiest would be to take them out to the garage or somewhere like that, suspend them with string (a couple inches from like cardboard or something, to protect whatever is behind them) and use spray paint, I'd think? |
| 15:20.50 | Kaso | I've also got my face-paints and have been playing around think this is about right for skin-color http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v87/lntkaos/DSCF1993.jpg?t=1192115719 |
| 15:20.51 | Lopeppeppy | Prolly, Cairenn, it's whether the spray paint will stick well to the synthetic fabric.... Wish I had an "extra" pair to test with, that's for sure. |
| 15:20.57 | Kaso | its 50:50 black purple atm |
| 15:21.10 | Cairenn | put cardboard a couple inches behind it and put cardboard or such on the floor as well |
| 15:21.29 | Lopeppeppy | Not bad. Don't forget some pink/red highlights on cheeks for highlights, etc. Study Cairenn's pictures, they're goodly. |
| 15:21.48 | Kaso | they are i've saved em all to hdd |
| 15:22.26 | Cairenn | Lopeppeppy: *nod* - just referring to methodology for the actual painting, so that it doesn't go all glompy or anything, stays as a fine mist overlay |
| 15:22.34 | Lopeppeppy | Your colors might be a wee bit dark, but his skin tones do vary from picture to picture.... |
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| 15:23.14 | Lopeppeppy | Cairenn, I love me some spray paint, I just hate to work with fabrics and paint, synthetics are soooo unpredictable in how they will hold it. But your directions rock for how to spray it gently and evenly. |
| 15:23.51 | Kaso | Ive been thinking of going darker rather than lighter, because occationally when illdian has the whole "shadowform" type thing going on i think it looks really cool |
| 15:24.41 | Lopeppeppy | Start light in your first application, Kaso, you can darken it later but it's harder to lighten makeup. And I recommend barrier spray under and over your makeup, to make it easier to take off, as well as more durable. Cold cream and baby wipes rule for taking off body makeup. |
| 15:25.13 | Cairenn | cold cream UNDER the makeup helps too, and provides a nice protective barrier for your skin |
| 15:25.26 | Kaso | Barrier spray i havent seen that anywhere, where'd you get that from |
| 15:26.14 | Kaso | is that like a lacquer to stop it rubbing off on everything i touch |
| 15:26.35 | Lopeppeppy | I get barrier spray from my costuming store. It's not a hard shell, so you still have to be very very mindful. But it helps you not to sweat it off, at least. |
| 15:26.37 | Cairenn | (see guys, there really are advantages to having women in the channel, we've got all kinds of good suggestions on how to do stuff) |
| 15:27.02 | Lopeppeppy | It's like.... a layer of hairspray over your skin for the makeup to sit on, and a layer of hairspray over it to hold it a bit. |
| 15:27.18 | Kaso | makes sense |
| 15:28.10 | Lopeppeppy | If you can't find it, as Cairenn says, use a good layer of moisturizer/lotion beforehand, it will help. My LARP goes through tons of barrier spray and cold cream every weekend, they're great standards. |
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| 15:28.56 | Cairenn | Kaso: back to the mask for a minute - if you don't want to go with the actual eye-mask and cellophane idea, get a pair of dark panythose, cut one leg off, cut the toe off, tie that around your eyes - you'll still be able to see through them |
| 15:29.51 | Kaso | Pepppy mentioned something similar the other day, cheese-cloth i think, which is the same sorta idea of thin material |
| 15:30.03 | Cairenn | (and you can pick up a pair of pantyhose for like $1) |
| 15:30.36 | Kaso | i still havent had a chance to go shopping for that yet, but i'll add it to my list of things to look at |
| 15:30.41 | Lopeppeppy | This time of year you could even get a pair of green nylons from a costume place, if you wanted to preserve the green-glow idea. Cheesecloth generally only comes in white. You could roll it around in black chalk to dirty it and darken it if you wanted to, with green chalk near the eyes.... or do the same with black nylons.... |
| 15:30.43 | Cairenn | aye - cheese cloth will be slightly thicker than a single layer of your standard pantyhose |
| 15:31.18 | Cairenn | I suggested an actual eye mask and tape a vivid green cellophane behind the eye holes |
| 15:32.01 | Lopeppeppy | Neat. I have a black leather mask that would work excellently with.... I love picking up Ren Faire costuming and using it in weird ways. |
| 15:32.12 | Cairenn | mmmmm, leather |
| 15:32.29 | Kaso | how kinky cair |
| 15:32.54 | Cairenn | not necessarily :p |
| 15:33.11 | Lopeppeppy | Leather wears well, and is extremely supple. It's great for costuming that you'll wear often enough to need durability. |
| 15:34.43 | sag_ich_nicht | brb relog |
| 15:34.57 | Cairenn | Kaso: http://www.danier.com/store.cfm?&ckey=CA&lang=eng <== not kinky |
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| 15:37.03 | Cairenn | although I actually tend to prefer suede to smooth leather |
| 15:37.35 | Kaso | belts and shoes is as far leather and i go |
| 15:39.31 | Lopeppeppy | I have an overdress for LARPing, bodice, waist cinches, masks, boots... it's just so much more durable for being outdoors in. |
| 15:40.48 | Cairenn | Lopeppeppy: aye |
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| 15:44.52 | Valaron|Work | Does anyone know anything about this card? http://www.frys.com/product/5410969 |
| 15:45.42 | Cidan | What of it? |
| 15:45.55 | Maldivia | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:46.15 | Valaron|Work | The 8800GT isn't "brand new" right? |
| 15:46.28 | cncfanatics | hello ppl |
| 15:46.30 | Cidan | Not anymore, no |
| 15:46.32 | Valaron|Work | I haven't been keeping up with video cards. |
| 15:46.38 | Cidan | but it's still the "top of the line" nvidia offers |
| 15:46.50 | Maldivia | howdy cnc |
| 15:46.55 | Cidan | There is the 9 series due out by the end of the year, or so it's rumored |
| 15:46.59 | cncfanatics | Malvidia, always good :) |
| 15:47.01 | Valaron|Work | A 512Mb PCIe 8800GT for $80. |
| 15:47.02 | Cairenn | hi cncfanatics |
| 15:47.11 | Cidan | that's 8600 mate |
| 15:47.12 | Cidan | :P |
| 15:47.16 | Cidan | not 88 |
| 15:47.18 | Valaron|Work | Oh yeah:) |
| 15:47.19 | Cidan | re-read |
| 15:47.25 | Cidan | It's still damn good. |
| 15:47.30 | Valaron|Work | Ahh.. That makes SOOO much more sense. |
| 15:48.25 | Valaron|Work | I just want something that'll play WoW with a nice FPS. |
| 15:48.42 | Valaron|Work | aka decent |
| 15:48.43 | Lopeppeppy | Me too, Valaron. |
| 15:49.02 | Cidan | that'll play anything with a nice FPS |
| 15:49.04 | Valaron|Work | Unfortunately, I don't have a PCIe motherboard, so that's out the window anyway. |
| 15:49.07 | Cidan | it's a pretty good card. |
| 15:49.08 | Cidan | oh |
| 15:49.17 | Valaron|Work | Time to upgrade |
| 15:50.00 | Kaso | Have you heard of these KillerNIC things, they're a rediculous rip-off however i saw some reviews which showed the increased MMORPG fps in conjested areas by scary amounts |
| 15:50.16 | Valaron|Work | KillerNIC? |
| 15:50.29 | Kaso | like a $200 network card |
| 15:50.45 | Kaso | nearer 300 actually |
| 15:50.54 | Cidan | It's retarded. |
| 15:50.59 | Kaso | its got a dedicated processor for running the TCP stack |
| 15:51.00 | Olison | yus, i saw them too...theres a full version and a slim one |
| 15:51.28 | Kaydeethree | it's like monster cables. improvements can be had, but is it really worth it? |
| 15:53.19 | Kaso | "Finally we really noticed a difference in LotRO Logging onto bree, one of the game's most densely populated areas was tricky without killernic, frame rates dropping to 10fps eventually allowing proper charater movements after 60seconds, No such problems with the KillerNIC we breezed straight in at a cool 45fps which remained constant |
| 15:53.36 | Kaso | thats the bit that shocked me quite a bit |
| 15:53.49 | Kaso | sure its lotr, but i imagen it'd be similar for Shattrah |
| 15:53.59 | Cidan | I... don't buy that |
| 15:54.00 | Cidan | sorry |
| 15:54.12 | Cidan | From a pure technical point of view, it doesn't even make any sense. |
| 15:54.43 | Cidan | That sounds like it was written by someone that doesn't know how the TCP stack interacts with the CPU |
| 15:54.51 | Cidan | In particular top of the line CPU's |
| 15:55.17 | Kaso | it was out of Custom PC Magazine, so i dont really know what to think |
| 15:55.28 | Kaso | Why doesnt it make any sense? |
| 15:55.54 | Valaron|Work | For WoW, it said somewhere around a 36% FPS/ping improvement. http://www.killernic.com/support/faq.aspx#Q5 |
| 15:57.40 | cladhaire | lua> 32 * 5 |
| 15:57.40 | cladbot | cladhaire: 160 |
| 15:58.36 | Cairenn | cladhaire: you needed a calculator for that?! |
| 15:58.48 | cladhaire | no |
| 15:58.54 | cladhaire | but it was easier, and with the flow of thought :P |
| 15:59.27 | krka | when i multiply with 5, i like to add a zero and then shift it right one step |
| 16:01.08 | dreamss | i just break it up, (30*5) +(2*5) |
| 16:01.16 | dreamss | takes longer on paper than on the head |
| 16:01.18 | dreamss | hehe |
| 16:01.29 | Xinhuan | multiple by 5 == *10/2 |
| 16:01.34 | Xinhuan | so add a 0, then divide by 2 |
| 16:01.42 | Cidan | er, I do 5 * 2 = 10 5 * 3 = 15 + 1 = 16... |
| 16:01.52 | Xinhuan | 32x5 = 320/2 = 160! |
| 16:02.00 | Lopeppeppy | You guys hurt my head. I'm going back to the leather. |
| 16:02.05 | krka | Xinhuan: that's what i said |
| 16:02.05 | dreamss | lol |
| 16:02.06 | krka | l2read |
| 16:02.27 | Xinhuan | krka, "shift it right" implies doing binary maths in the head ;p |
| 16:02.48 | dreamss | hehe... i could if i dont forget the numbers |
| 16:03.19 | dreamss | back in highschool teachers would get pissed off cause i never show my work |
| 16:03.42 | dreamss | "only retards need to write this easy shit down" |
| 16:03.53 | Lopeppeppy | Cidan, just ask one of us to negotiate a ticket for you, darling, if you can pay the price a red-head asks. |
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| 16:04.41 | Xinhuan | trick: when someone on /g asks you a maths question like "what is 200/35?" you type /print 200/35 and that shows the answer, then reply on /g, people will think you're a genious (assuming you have at least 1 Ace addon) |
| 16:04.46 | dreamss | heh, monster cable is never an improvement |
| 16:04.57 | Cidan | Woohoo! |
| 16:05.16 | dreamss | hehe |
| 16:05.27 | Kaso | Monster gold plated USB cable! |
| 16:05.36 | Kaso | The bits just "feel" better! |
| 16:06.20 | dreamss | heh |
| 16:06.23 | dreamss | sugar pills |
| 16:06.37 | dreamss | err placibos :P |
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| 16:07.22 | sag_ich_nicht | yarrrr |
| 16:07.55 | dreamss | sup sag |
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| 16:08.35 | dreamss | i think a good test for your nic card is to run a torent (or several) |
| 16:08.41 | Cairenn | Resolutions from the cat: I will not eat spider plants and hallucinate behind the toilet. I don't need to check my male human's aim in the bathroom. I will not be miffed at my human all day and then kiss her on the nose at 2:00 a.m. to tell her that she is forgiven and can now pet me. I will not soak my catnip toy in the water bowl to make tea. I will not get high and sit there drinking my tea and kneading the floor afterwards. I will |
| 16:08.47 | dreamss | and see if the fps drops |
| 16:09.12 | dreamss | hehe |
| 16:09.36 | simlan | Hello! I've a problem here: I catch the "COMBAT_TEXT_UPDATE" event to display SPELL_ACTIVE events like "Execute" and "Overpower". This works for me and other Warriors, but for a certain (def-skilled) warrior, "Execute" does not work (even with all addons disabled), the event is not fired (WoW-integrated combat text also does not display the event). Any idea whats going on? |
| 16:10.10 | Lopeppeppy | Cairenn... If my kitty followed those, this would be a well ordered household. I would add "I will not steal my humans' pens and laugh while they search for the Secret Hiding Place" and "I will not chase invisible mice more than once a day unless I've made catnip tea" |
| 16:10.34 | dreamss | interesting pets |
| 16:11.02 | Kalroth | Cairenn: hahah |
| 16:11.06 | Cidan | simlan: hmm |
| 16:11.13 | sag_ich_nicht | simlan: gives us code |
| 16:11.17 | sag_ich_nicht | how to reproduce it |
| 16:11.20 | sag_ich_nicht | and a spec that reproduces it |
| 16:12.39 | simlan | When a mop goes under 20% life, the WoW-integrated combat text displays "execute" if enabled. For this character it does not. I don't think that you can reproduce this, but maybe you have an idea |
| 16:13.31 | Cidan | it might be that the event only works on your self |
| 16:13.43 | Cidan | Does it work with self, but not party members? |
| 16:14.26 | simlan | It works for my warrior, but he does not get this event (he tested the WoW combat text on his own PC with his own warrior) |
| 16:15.24 | simlan | More precise: COMBAT_TEXT_UPDATE with "SPELL_ACTIVE" and "Execute" is not fired on his account |
| 16:15.40 | simlan | I logged in on my PC with his account, it also does not work |
| 16:15.42 | Cidan | hooking one event has nothing to do with another |
| 16:15.50 | Cidan | you don't have to hook combat text update to get spell active |
| 16:15.55 | Cidan | fyi |
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| 16:16.25 | simlan | "SPELL_ACTIVE" is the first argument to the handler with event COMBAT_TEXT_UPDATE |
| 16:16.31 | simlan | if a spell gets ready |
| 16:16.37 | Cidan | oh right, I see, I see |
| 16:16.38 | Cidan | never mind |
| 16:17.02 | simlan | This specific event is fired for Overpower and Revenge, but never for Execute |
| 16:17.13 | Cidan | It's just that you called spell active an event, I had thought it was an event it self. |
| 16:17.17 | Cidan | hmm |
| 16:17.24 | simlan | And its account-specific, not WoW-installation specific or addon specific |
| 16:17.41 | simlan | I tested on my PC and it also did not work |
| 16:17.44 | Cidan | now |
| 16:18.13 | Cidan | combat text update does in fact only show self, however when your friend attempts to use this mod the event does not fire? |
| 16:18.14 | Kaso | Im not sure if this effects it but just to check the basic things, does turning blizzard combat text on/off stop the event? |
| 16:18.18 | Cidan | yet it does with you? |
| 16:19.41 | simlan | With my account and my warrior, the event is fired. With his account (same PC) the event is not fired. It's not a bug in some Addon or so, I used the WoW-integrated combat text |
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| 16:21.20 | Cidan | and it's the same skill/spell? |
| 16:21.31 | simlan | sorry? |
| 16:22.05 | Cidan | the same skill/spell you're trying to catch? |
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| 16:22.40 | simlan | I just attacked a mob and waited until it health drops below 20%, with my warrior SPELL_ACTIVE/Execute is fired. With his account it is not fired, never. |
| 16:23.15 | Fisker- | *cue gm ticket* |
| 16:23.25 | Cidan | naw |
| 16:23.26 | Cidan | hmm |
| 16:23.30 | Kaso | sure he has the execute spell? |
| 16:23.43 | dreamss | he should |
| 16:23.45 | Kaso | is blizzard combat text settings the same for both accounts |
| 16:23.51 | Cidan | can you pastey the code? (link in topic) |
| 16:23.58 | Cidan | also is combat text enabled? |
| 16:25.04 | simlan | What code should I post? It's wow-default combat text. It was enabled with both accounts, e.g. Overpower and Revenge worked for both accounts |
| 16:26.28 | dreamss | your lua code |
| 16:26.33 | dreamss | on the link on topic |
| 16:26.56 | dreamss | http://wowi.pastey.net |
| 16:27.41 | simlan | I did not code a line of LUA, I observed this phenomena with plain all-addons-disabled, wtf-renamed fresh WoW-installation |
| 16:28.16 | simlan | Its a problem with the integrated WoW combat text, or better, for this account t he SPELL_ACTIVE/Execute is not fired |
| 16:28.36 | Cidan | ohh |
| 16:28.42 | Cidan | We thought you were coding an addon |
| 16:29.12 | Cidan | double check his combat text settings, make sure it's *all* enabled |
| 16:29.22 | Cidan | and make sure he actually has execute |
| 16:29.33 | Cidan | put it into the bar |
| 16:29.39 | Cidan | and make sure it's going active there |
| 16:29.43 | Cidan | make sure you're in the right stance |
| 16:29.44 | Cidan | etc |
| 16:30.38 | simlan | Stance: checked, Combat-Text settings: checked, it displays Overpower and revenge, He has the skill: checked, level 70 warrior, he uses the skill |
| 16:30.50 | Cidan | huh |
| 16:31.06 | Cidan | does it work on another computer? |
| 16:31.14 | simlan | No, its account specific |
| 16:31.34 | simlan | I tested on my PC, it did not work |
| 16:32.16 | Lopeppeppy | Is the skill on his action bar? |
| 16:32.35 | Lopeppeppy | And does it light up as active there? |
| 16:32.51 | simlan | Yes, its in the bar and the Icon activates if the mob is under 20% |
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| 16:33.38 | Lopeppeppy | If you're using no mods at all, and a new WTF/Interface folder.... I dunno. Bug report or Tech Support, perhaps? |
| 16:33.46 | simlan | But combat text is not displayed, I wrote a small addon that displays *all* COMBAT_TEXT_UPDATE events. Everything is OK but no Execute :/ |
| 16:35.18 | simlan | And blizzard uses this event for the combat text, I took a look in the code |
| 16:37.10 | dreamss | Hitman Being Edited From 'Explicitly Violent' to PG-13?! |
| 16:37.11 | dreamss | lol |
| 16:37.23 | Cidan | you're fucking kidding right? |
| 16:37.28 | Cidan | hitman is PG-13? |
| 16:37.37 | dreamss | :( |
| 16:37.46 | Cidan | What a damned waste |
| 16:37.58 | dreamss | 13 year olds warent born when the first hitman came out |
| 16:38.00 | dreamss | :P |
| 16:38.05 | Cidan | First die-hard, now this shit. |
| 16:38.10 | Cidan | God damned it all to hell. |
| 16:38.21 | dreamss | dude, it was eyes wide shut first |
| 16:38.21 | Cidan | No one can make a decent rated R movie anymore |
| 16:38.27 | Cidan | ah true |
| 16:38.30 | dreamss | ratings raped the movie |
| 16:38.35 | dreamss | had to get europe version |
| 16:38.50 | Cidan | but all that was really different was the nudity at the orgy |
| 16:38.55 | Cidan | I saw both versions |
| 16:39.16 | dreamss | a movie about a game were a guy kills people |
| 16:39.21 | dreamss | if thats not R.. i dunno |
| 16:39.30 | Cidan | But when a movie like Hitman goes PG-13, then you know it's going to go soft |
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| 16:39.39 | Cidan | It won't be dark, like the games were. |
| 16:39.54 | dreamss | hopefully uncut workprint will leak out |
| 16:40.00 | Cidan | The games did not have a "happy" or "watch with your family" tone to it. |
| 16:40.10 | Cidan | No dude, it's not cut scenes, you don't get it |
| 16:40.17 | Cidan | the entire tone, the writing will suck. |
| 16:40.32 | dreamss | yeah :( |
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| 16:40.39 | dreamss | i know what you mean |
| 16:40.48 | Cidan | Remember when they used to make bad ass movies with tons of drugs guns and shooting, but with a decent plot? |
| 16:40.59 | dreamss | but look what i psated |
| 16:41.00 | dreamss | Hitman Being Edited From 'Explicitly Violent' to PG-13?! |
| 16:41.01 | Cidan | Who here remembers the movie "Blow" |
| 16:41.10 | dreamss | the Explicitly Violent version is made |
| 16:41.18 | dreamss | they just editing it down to pg13 |
| 16:41.29 | Cidan | The fact that you can edit the movie DOWN to PG 13 |
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| 16:41.40 | Cidan | means that it's not a good movie to start with |
| 16:41.50 | foxlit | pfft |
| 16:41.56 | Cidan | a really nice rated R movie will have screenplay that can't be edited |
| 16:42.11 | dreamss | sucks ass, hitman movie has SO MUCH potencial |
| 16:42.12 | foxlit | The only video game deserving of a movie is HL2 |
| 16:42.13 | Cidan | This is just a movie with some cursing which they can edit out. |
| 16:42.43 | Cidan | foxlit: They tried, but every time Gabe is pitched, the writer says, "...and then his love interest" and Gabe walks out. |
| 16:42.49 | Cidan | Which hey, that's awesome |
| 16:42.50 | Lopeppeppy | I just bought Night of the Lepus this morning.... I like classic old films that didn't have to have excess cussing to be trite, they just managed it without. |
| 16:43.00 | Cidan | Lopeppeppy: right, :D |
| 16:43.14 | dreamss | the result is "an explicitly violent, very bloody cut of the film that apparently included a number of head shots and extreme gore moments that would have guaranteed the film a hard R rating |
| 16:43.32 | Cidan | idiots |
| 16:43.38 | foxlit | Cidan: haha :) |
| 16:43.38 | Cidan | god damned idiots |
| 16:43.45 | dreamss | hahaha |
| 16:43.48 | dreamss | it gets better |
| 16:43.54 | Lopeppeppy | I think they smack some killer bunnies in the head in Night of the Lepus.... |
| 16:43.58 | dreamss | Twitch reports that after the studio saw Gens’ cut of the film they decided to remove him entirely from the project and place Nicolas De Toth in control of a new edit of the film. Never heard of him? He's the same guy who did the edit on Live Free or Die Hard, |
| 16:44.02 | dreamss | ^gold |
| 16:44.06 | Cidan | HAH |
| 16:44.08 | Cidan | What did I say! |
| 16:44.12 | Intangir | dreamss: what movie? |
| 16:44.16 | dreamss | hitman |
| 16:44.54 | Intangir | ah |
| 16:45.03 | dreamss | wanna bet a highqual workprint of the rated r version will leak out before its on on theathers? |
| 16:45.09 | dreamss | heh |
| 16:45.18 | Intangir | theres alot of good games id like to see a movie of |
| 16:45.19 | Cidan | I don't even care for the screenplay now |
| 16:45.26 | Intangir | warcraft might even be a good movie |
| 16:45.32 | Cidan | if blood and guts is what will give it a rated R movie |
| 16:45.35 | Cidan | then fuck it, no thanks |
| 16:45.38 | Intangir | but final fantasy games would be good movies |
| 16:45.42 | dreamss | what part of warcraft hehe |
| 16:45.49 | Intangir | final fantasy tactics really seemed LIKE a movie already |
| 16:45.50 | Cidan | No thanks on Warcraft |
| 16:46.04 | Intangir | the plot was a movie plot |
| 16:46.12 | dreamss | the lore in warcraft is kinda to big for a movie |
| 16:46.14 | Intangir | the way it was revealed was like a book or movie |
| 16:46.20 | Cidan | Last thing I need is to have Thrall with a love interest |
| 16:46.27 | Intangir | i think final fantasy 3 would be freaking awesome |
| 16:46.34 | Cidan | And if they ever mess up FFT in a movie, I may just go postal. |
| 16:46.34 | Intangir | live actors |
| 16:46.37 | Intangir | on cg scenes |
| 16:46.40 | Intangir | would be awesome |
| 16:46.43 | dreamss | they did made a FF movie :P |
| 16:46.49 | dreamss | which wasent ff |
| 16:46.53 | Cidan | well yes it was |
| 16:46.55 | Intangir | ya that was alright |
| 16:46.59 | Cidan | Every FF was different |
| 16:47.08 | Intangir | FF advent children wasnt really a movie.. |
| 16:47.14 | Cidan | However, Advent Children... |
| 16:47.15 | Cidan | yeah |
| 16:47.16 | Intangir | was more like some wild CG of absurd length |
| 16:47.17 | Cidan | I liked that |
| 16:47.19 | dreamss | spirits within? |
| 16:47.29 | Cidan | that sucked |
| 16:47.35 | Intangir | spirits within was a real movie though |
| 16:47.36 | Cidan | Advent Children rocked though |
| 16:47.47 | Intangir | advent children was just a bunch of random awesomeness |
| 16:47.59 | Cidan | it really was |
| 16:47.59 | Intangir | anyone who hadnt played FF7 would haev absolultely no fucking clue what the hell was going on |
| 16:48.00 | Cidan | lol |
| 16:48.03 | Cidan | yeah |
| 16:48.11 | Intangir | even if you had played FF7 you only have very little idea whats going on |
| 16:48.13 | Cidan | but really, if you're a gamer, you've played FF7 |
| 16:48.28 | dreamss | no ff here, any of them |
| 16:48.33 | Cidan | you serious? |
| 16:48.37 | Cidan | you're missing out |
| 16:48.38 | Oree | go play ff7 imo |
| 16:48.41 | Cidan | no |
| 16:48.42 | Cidan | fuck that |
| 16:48.44 | dreamss | never was a fan of rpgs |
| 16:48.44 | Intangir | i think FF tactics had the best plot for a movie |
| 16:48.45 | Cidan | play FF6 my friend |
| 16:48.48 | dreamss | or turn based rpgs |
| 16:48.50 | Cidan | and then FFt |
| 16:49.03 | dreamss | slasher rpgs were my style |
| 16:49.14 | Cidan | So Oblivion then? |
| 16:49.29 | Intangir | FF3 is my favorite FF |
| 16:49.33 | Intangir | cause i LOOVED the characters man |
| 16:49.37 | Intangir | was the best characters of all FFs |
| 16:49.37 | Cidan | You mean FF6 |
| 16:49.39 | Cidan | :P |
| 16:49.39 | Intangir | ya |
| 16:49.52 | Cidan | For sake of clarity, use the numbers from Japan |
| 16:50.06 | dreamss | lol |
| 16:50.20 | dreamss | another reason i did not play ff games |
| 16:50.22 | Cidan | Over at #zsnes on EFNet, to use the American names is... bad. |
| 16:50.22 | cladhaire | yes please |
| 16:50.30 | cladhaire | the american names don't exist |
| 16:50.32 | Buuyo | FF6 needed more romance between locke and celes imo =p |
| 16:50.35 | Intangir | we arent in there ;) |
| 16:50.51 | Buuyo | But that's what fanfiction is for ;) |
| 16:51.03 | dreamss | freespace would make a good movie |
| 16:51.07 | Intangir | locke already had a rough luck with love |
| 16:51.10 | Intangir | his ex died |
| 16:51.12 | Intangir | ;( |
| 16:51.22 | Buuyo | that's why he needs celes to heal him ;) |
| 16:51.23 | Cidan | yar |
| 16:51.25 | Cidan | haha |
| 16:51.26 | dreamss | lol |
| 16:51.29 | dreamss | nerds |
| 16:51.30 | Intangir | nah, i dont see that happening ;) |
| 16:51.34 | Intangir | but man i looved that game ;) |
| 16:51.38 | Intangir | such great characters ;) |
| 16:51.41 | Cidan | I disliked Celes, her story |
| 16:51.49 | Cidan | *whine whine emo whine* |
| 16:51.51 | Intangir | i liked them all, i wouldnt be able to pick a favorite |
| 16:52.05 | Buuyo | I was still charmed when I first saw her blinking. =p |
| 16:52.12 | Buuyo | Since that's basically all you can see her do except walk |
| 16:52.16 | Cidan | My party was Setzer, Gogo, then any other two I felt like. |
| 16:52.28 | Cidan | But Setzer and Gogo were a must |
| 16:52.31 | Intangir | i always had locke, edgar, sabin, and terra whenever possible ;) |
| 16:52.46 | Cidan | Setzer is a god. |
| 16:52.46 | Intangir | setzer i almost never used |
| 16:52.48 | cladhaire | hrm |
| 16:52.49 | Buuyo | I used terra, celes, gogo and setzer =3 |
| 16:52.50 | cladhaire | what shoudl i spec my rogue? |
| 16:53.00 | Cidan | Doom Darts + lucky dice + genji gloves + offering |
| 16:53.08 | Cidan | == 9999 damage * 8 |
| 16:53.18 | Intangir | ya you can do that quicker with any sword carrier |
| 16:53.19 | Cidan | Gogo == Mimics |
| 16:53.35 | Buuyo | It was always a dilema though. When the game split in to one of those control 2 or 3 parties at once moments |
| 16:53.41 | Buuyo | who do you put in the other parties =o They all suck. |
| 16:53.51 | Intangir | lol |
| 16:53.56 | Intangir | mr thou |
| 16:54.14 | Intangir | looved that game ;) |
| 16:54.15 | Cidan | hahaha |
| 16:54.15 | Cidan | :D |
| 16:54.19 | Intangir | all of my nicks in wow are from FF6 |
| 16:54.23 | Intangir | Intangir is a monster name in FF6 |
| 16:54.25 | Intangir | i had Doomgaze |
| 16:54.27 | Intangir | Hidon |
| 16:54.29 | Intangir | Garamonde |
| 16:54.32 | Cidan | Doomgaze == gaming machine |
| 16:54.34 | Cidan | no wait |
| 16:54.38 | Cidan | Doomgaze == router machine |
| 16:54.42 | Cidan | Punbaba == gaming machine |
| 16:54.47 | Cidan | They were my first two computers |
| 16:54.47 | Buuyo | heh |
| 16:54.48 | Cidan | :P |
| 16:54.49 | Intangir | lol |
| 16:54.54 | Intangir | my first server was Doomgaze |
| 16:54.57 | Intangir | now its Ultros |
| 16:55.04 | Intangir | i figure 8 tenticles are better for serving ;) |
| 16:55.05 | Buuyo | I named mine after manga >_< |
| 16:55.13 | Cidan | My other machine == Bahamut |
| 16:55.18 | Buuyo | Ranma's currently serving my eRice. =p |
| 16:55.20 | Cidan | my VoIP machine == Siren |
| 16:55.22 | Intangir | my desktop is kefka |
| 16:55.25 | Intangir | i had kefka in wow too |
| 16:55.46 | Intangir | i deleted all my characters for a couple weeks though |
| 16:55.49 | Intangir | someone else grabbed kefka ;( |
| 16:56.36 | Intangir | between FF6 and Chrono Trigger i basically failed a whole gear of highschool |
| 16:56.42 | Intangir | year.. |
| 16:56.57 | Intangir | and id do it again ;) |
| 16:56.59 | Cidan | FFT was the best really |
| 16:57.06 | Intangir | FFT had a great plot |
| 16:57.41 | Cidan | I have a hard time picking FFT or FF6 |
| 16:57.41 | Intangir | but FF6 is my fav overall |
| 16:57.41 | Intangir | FFT just had such an amazing plot! was definately the most awesome FF plot |
| 16:57.41 | Intangir | so complex and interesting |
| 16:57.47 | Intangir | basically it was saying jesus was the antichrist |
| 16:57.50 | Intangir | did you catch that? hahaha |
| 16:57.56 | Intangir | i mean how do they get away with that? no one noticed |
| 16:58.04 | Cidan | Well in Japan |
| 16:58.13 | Cidan | Christianity is often poked fun of |
| 16:58.14 | Cidan | in games |
| 16:58.17 | Cidan | all the time |
| 16:58.25 | Cidan | They cut a lot out when it comes to the states |
| 16:58.40 | Intangir | well this one still had all of it |
| 16:58.51 | Intangir | i dont know if they changed the names in translations or if they were orginally just obvious parodies |
| 16:59.04 | Intangir | also i thought delita was freaking awesome |
| 16:59.12 | Intangir | one of the most awesome FF characters ever.. |
| 16:59.20 | Cidan | Did you watch past the credits? |
| 16:59.26 | Intangir | i dont recall |
| 16:59.31 | Cidan | Then you didn't. |
| 16:59.34 | Intangir | what was it? |
| 16:59.37 | Cidan | Or you would know what I was talking about. |
| 16:59.46 | Intangir | i played that so many years ago, i probably did |
| 16:59.53 | Cidan | No, you would know, :P |
| 17:00.03 | Intangir | delita gets stabbed? |
| 17:00.14 | Cidan | yerp, and so does the princess |
| 17:00.40 | Intangir | then ya i saw that |
| 17:00.52 | Intangir | that guy was so awesome though ;) |
| 17:01.02 | Cidan | he really was |
| 17:01.05 | Intangir | using kings as pawns, goes from orphaned peasant to king ;) |
| 17:01.09 | Cidan | went from being a half-noble to king |
| 17:01.13 | Intangir | all for this one girl ;) |
| 17:01.16 | Intangir | who doesnt trust him and kills him hahaha |
| 17:01.18 | Intangir | omg wtf! |
| 17:01.28 | Intangir | he wasnt half-noble |
| 17:01.34 | Cidan | he was adopted |
| 17:01.38 | Intangir | ya |
| 17:01.41 | Intangir | as a servant |
| 17:01.45 | Cidan | er, wait |
| 17:01.47 | Cidan | you're right |
| 17:01.48 | Cidan | :D |
| 17:01.49 | Intangir | basically an orphaned slave ;) |
| 17:02.04 | Intangir | that was totally awesome hahaha |
| 17:02.07 | Intangir | he became so powerful! |
| 17:02.17 | Intangir | no one he loved could even trust him |
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| 17:02.44 | foxlit | hrm |
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| 17:02.44 | Intangir | man the other part of it was so cool though, they have a guy, who the church claimed was the son of god.. |
| 17:02.48 | Intangir | he had 12 followers |
| 17:02.55 | Intangir | 1 betrays him.. |
| 17:02.58 | foxlit | The brewfest mount should really have the same controls as the brewfest mount during quests |
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| 17:03.19 | Intangir | turns out in FFT the 1 betrayer had good reason to betray him. his followers were possesed by demons, and he was the reincarnation of satan on earth |
| 17:03.22 | Intangir | hahahahah holy shit |
| 17:03.43 | Intangir | did you catch that? |
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| 17:04.01 | Intangir | Cidan: almost no one i know who played it realized what that was about |
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| 17:04.11 | Cidan | eh |
| 17:04.16 | Cidan | I worshiped the game |
| 17:04.19 | Cidan | for a long time |
| 17:04.29 | Cidan | even wrote a clone of it for the PC using openGL |
| 17:04.38 | Intangir | me and a buddy wanted to also |
| 17:04.47 | Intangir | a similar looking style |
| 17:04.51 | Intangir | but not a tactics game |
| 17:05.00 | Intangir | more like breath of fire 3-4 |
| 17:05.14 | Intangir | we didnt though.. |
| 17:05.32 | Intangir | did you level up cloud? hehe |
| 17:05.35 | Intangir | i got him to like level 8 |
| 17:05.38 | Intangir | and i was like F this.. |
| 17:05.40 | Cidan | I got him to 99 |
| 17:05.43 | Cidan | simple way to level: |
| 17:05.49 | Intangir | you just get him sooo damn late in the game |
| 17:05.51 | Cidan | put everyone in a + shape |
| 17:05.55 | Cidan | keep a time mage in the center |
| 17:06.14 | Cidan | haste everyone, and have the other guys do the squire skill that boosts your attack |
| 17:06.25 | Cidan | and keep a mob at like, 1 hp |
| 17:06.28 | Cidan | it will just run away |
| 17:06.41 | Cidan | you'll level up pretty damn fast |
| 17:06.52 | Intangir | what do you do with cloud? |
| 17:06.55 | Cidan | I did it on the first free roam fight you can do in the game, where you get random battles |
| 17:07.03 | Cidan | switch his job 'til he gets the squire skill |
| 17:07.07 | Cidan | then just equip it |
| 17:07.15 | Cidan | and go back to soldier |
| 17:07.36 | Intangir | oh so you gain XP from boosting attack power all day long? |
| 17:07.59 | Cidan | yep |
| 17:08.03 | Intangir | hehehe |
| 17:08.14 | Intangir | you play FFX? |
| 17:08.16 | Cidan | I did it on the first battle you could |
| 17:08.16 | Cidan | but |
| 17:08.18 | Intangir | i maxed out all my characters on that |
| 17:08.26 | Cidan | when I was 99 |
| 17:08.29 | Intangir | i relayed out the whole sphere grid |
| 17:08.32 | Cidan | and everyone else was 99 on the free battles |
| 17:08.42 | Cidan | they had the best armor and weapons, I had... cloth |
| 17:09.06 | Intangir | did you ever play the other newer tactics games? i did play any of them |
| 17:09.08 | Cidan | also yes, in FFX there is a way to get that sphere XP by the masses |
| 17:09.15 | Intangir | theres like 2 other versions of tactics now at least i think |
| 17:09.26 | Cidan | I did play FFTA, didn't like it as much |
| 17:09.42 | Intangir | id doubt they are as good |
| 17:09.49 | Intangir | its probably more for a younger audience |
| 17:09.57 | Intangir | thats what it appeared to be to me |
| 17:09.57 | Cidan | not at all |
| 17:10.02 | Cidan | FFTA was pretty nice |
| 17:10.04 | Cidan | but eh |
| 17:10.07 | Cidan | I just couldn't dig it |
| 17:10.14 | foxlit | Hm, I wonder |
| 17:10.24 | Cidan | what gets me though is, why did they redo FF3 on the NDS in full 3D, but not 6?! |
| 17:10.35 | Cidan | 6 they made a GBA release! |
| 17:10.36 | foxlit | How expensive is a self:GetWidth(); call compared to storing the result in a local variable and reusing it once? |
| 17:10.54 | Intangir | they keep changing things in the other versions of FF6 |
| 17:11.01 | Intangir | the latest one they changed ALOT |
| 17:11.03 | Intangir | whole dialogs are changed |
| 17:11.07 | Intangir | whole character names are changed |
| 17:11.09 | Intangir | skill names are changed |
| 17:11.11 | Intangir | mob names... |
| 17:11.22 | Intangir | they changed ALOT |
| 17:11.27 | Cidan | foxlit: Er... no clue? |
| 17:11.33 | Intangir | doomgaze is now named deathgaze? hahaha retarded ;) |
| 17:11.40 | Intangir | instead of vicks and wedge its biggs and wedge again |
| 17:11.51 | Intangir | they copied those from starwars btw |
| 17:12.01 | Cidan | Yes, we know, :P |
| 17:12.31 | Intangir | they renamed swordtech to bushido |
| 17:12.36 | Intangir | thats actually a good change |
| 17:12.44 | Intangir | wtf is swordtech? |
| 17:13.07 | Intangir | lol also some of cyans swords look like a huge butterknife ;) |
| 17:13.12 | art3mis | the technology of swords obviously ;) |
| 17:13.14 | Intangir | LOOK OUT! I GOT A BUTTER KNIFE! |
| 17:13.24 | Intangir | and its HUUGE! |
| 17:13.27 | Lopeppeppy | Rawr? |
| 17:13.43 | Intangir | oh well im going to lunch |
| 17:13.48 | Intangir | was a nice trip down memory lane ;) |
| 17:13.50 | Intangir | of gaming |
| 17:13.58 | art3mis | i want a sword with full esper support, mp3 player and a full sized keyboard complete with wireless and 3g access |
| 17:13.58 | Cidan | :D |
| 17:14.06 | Cidan | lol |
| 17:14.36 | Cidan | art3mis: New SVN push btw |
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| 17:41.16 | Shirik|zZz | Cidan: I don't see why you feel the need to announce every SVN push. You totally defeat the purpose of the CIA bot :P |
| 17:42.08 | Thunder_Child | there is no CIA bot here |
| 17:42.25 | Cairenn | What you want, baby I got it. What you need, do you know I got it? All I'm asking for is a little respect when you come home. |
| 17:42.39 | Thunder_Child | ~lart Cairenn |
| 17:42.39 | purl | beats the living hamstercrap out of Cairenn |
| 17:43.45 | Cairenn | R-E-S-P-E-C-T Find out what it means to me |
| 17:44.14 | Lopeppeppy | "I should have changed the stupid lock, I would have made you leave your key, if I'd known for just one moment you'd be back to bother me!" |
| 17:44.31 | Cairenn | another good one :) |
| 17:44.42 | Thunder_Child | you people and your getting songs stuck in my head |
| 17:44.53 | Lopeppeppy | I like 'em sassy, Cairenn |
| 17:45.06 | Cairenn | sassy is gud! |
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| 17:46.16 | Cairenn | one of the reason why the blues rock my world |
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| 17:46.25 | Cairenn | reasons* |
| 17:46.44 | Lopeppeppy | Some of the more modern country is nice as well. Lorrie Morgan is a classy lady. |
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| 17:49.45 | Lin | hi there! |
| 17:49.50 | Cairenn | hi |
| 17:49.52 | Lin | morning (UGT) all! |
| 17:50.27 | Cidan | howdy Lin |
| 17:51.28 | Thunder_Child | gah...it's to early in the morning to be chipper |
| 17:52.28 | Lopeppeppy | It's never too early to annoy someone else, Thunder_Child. |
| 17:52.40 | Thunder_Child | thats quite true |
| 17:53.09 | Thunder_Child | but i doubt thats what was in mind |
| 17:59.35 | Lopeppeppy | Nope, sorry. |
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| 18:55.49 | Furl | I push lines, yay. |
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| 19:03.42 | lolinternet | wow |
| 19:03.46 | lolinternet | WoW just crashed my videocard |
| 19:03.46 | lolinternet | hard |
| 19:03.51 | lolinternet | it can't recover |
| 19:03.56 | lolinternet | i'm writting this over RDP |
| 19:03.58 | dreamss | overheating? |
| 19:04.05 | lolinternet | nope |
| 19:04.15 | lolinternet | it's hardlocked |
| 19:04.15 | dreamss | ati card?' |
| 19:04.18 | lolinternet | rebooting it will fix it |
| 19:04.19 | lolinternet | nope |
| 19:04.20 | lolinternet | nvidia |
| 19:04.28 | lolinternet | brb rebooting the machine |
| 19:04.30 | Furl | Buh bye |
| 19:04.32 | dreamss | whats ur pcs uptime? |
| 19:04.41 | lolinternet | Offenderserv has been up for 22h 2m |
| 19:04.44 | lolinternet | not much. |
| 19:04.44 | lolinternet | :X |
| 19:04.46 | lolinternet | brb |
| 19:05.00 | Furl | I go for 300hr at a time. |
| 19:05.23 | Thunder_Child | uptime: 7h :: record: 4d 8h 24m 26s |
| 19:05.28 | Thunder_Child | sad |
| 19:05.47 | dreamss | wow hardlocks my shit every 3days heh |
| 19:05.55 | dreamss | used to have month+ uptime |
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| 19:06.19 | dreamss | 14Operating System: 04(WinXP Professional 5.1 Service Pack 2 (Build #2600)04) 15¤ 14Uptime: 04(1d 15h 47m 55s04) 15¤ 14Record Uptime: 04(5d 17h 13m 18s set on Sun Jul 22 12:25:09 200704) |
| 19:06.40 | ScytheBlade1 | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:06.44 | ScytheBlade1 | Bah, weak |
| 19:07.16 | haste | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:08.18 | ScytheBlade1 | Haha, sucker. ;) |
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| 19:08.31 | Olison | !tcl [exec uptime] |
| 19:08.33 | MrUseful | 1 - result: invalid command name " 21:08:31 up 262 days, 6:53, 1 user, load average: 1.03, 1.00, 0.89" - clicks: 101172 |
| 19:08.53 | Olison | needs a new kernel :( |
| 19:09.00 | haste | that's why I rebooted 23 hours ago |
| 19:09.07 | cog|work | 12:08:27 up 20 days, 14:50, 1 user, load average: 0.00, 0.00, 0.00 |
| 19:09.14 | ScytheBlade1 | Whoo |
| 19:09.19 | ScytheBlade1 | I think the 2.3 PTR is up |
| 19:09.31 | cog|work | orly? |
| 19:09.36 | ScytheBlade1 | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/board.html?sid=1&forumId=11572 |
| 19:10.07 | Lopeppeppy | Hot! |
| 19:11.40 | Lopeppeppy | Now I need to dissect the patch notes, whee! |
| 19:11.56 | Kaydeethree | purges <3. client on the website is still for the 2.2.3 PTR though |
| 19:12.14 | Lopeppeppy | Bah. |
| 19:12.17 | ScytheBlade1 | Heh, they even have a known bug posted |
| 19:13.54 | ScytheBlade1 | Heh |
| 19:13.54 | ScytheBlade1 | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=2329263664&sid=1#7 |
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| 19:14.25 | ScytheBlade1 | No premades, characters wiped, no gear vendors |
| 19:14.32 | ScytheBlade1 | This makes me so happy |
| 19:14.57 | Polarina | :( |
| 19:15.42 | Intangir | my main is better than the premades anyway |
| 19:15.53 | Intangir | will they still have daily arena points? |
| 19:15.59 | Intangir | theyd better |
| 19:16.18 | Cidan | wahhooooo |
| 19:16.21 | Cidan | 2.3 PTR today |
| 19:16.22 | Cidan | :D |
| 19:18.50 | Polarina | Also on Europe? |
| 19:18.59 | Kaydeethree | check the eu ptr forum? |
| 19:19.15 | cog|work | zomgimpatient: http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info7602-PTRForumToC.html Cairenn|afk clad|away dolby-wowi |
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| 19:19.44 | cog|work | Kaydeethree: ^ new ForumToCPoster xml file for the 2.3 thread |
| 19:19.54 | Kaydeethree | heh, I was in the middle of editing my copy |
| 19:20.41 | Polarina | " |
| 19:20.41 | Polarina | The new Guild Banks feature is currently turned off on the PTR, it will be activated later." -- WHY? |
| 19:20.57 | Cidan | Oh snap |
| 19:21.02 | Cidan | guild banks in 2.3? |
| 19:21.16 | cog|work | Polarina: it's not ready yet |
| 19:21.31 | ScytheBlade1 | Aye |
| 19:21.32 | ScytheBlade1 | Soon |
| 19:21.38 | ScytheBlade1 | er |
| 19:21.39 | ScytheBlade1 | ~soon |
| 19:21.40 | purl | i guess soon is well before heat death |
| 19:21.43 | ScytheBlade1 | Bah |
| 19:25.29 | Kaydeethree | patch notes getting posted now |
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| 19:26.38 | ScytheBlade1 | - Up to 6 purchasable tabs each containing 98 item slots |
| 19:26.43 | ScytheBlade1 | /cheer |
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| 19:27.58 | Polarina | - Client spell cast requests are now sent to the server even if your |
| 19:27.59 | Polarina | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:27.59 | Polarina | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:28.08 | Polarina | - Vendor Discounts: All vendors with an associate faction now give |
| 19:28.08 | Polarina | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:28.08 | Polarina | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:28.08 | Polarina | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:28.08 | Polarina | <PROTECTED> |
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| 19:28.24 | Cidan | where? |
| 19:28.32 | Kaydeethree | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=2288042225&sid=1 |
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| 19:29.57 | JoshBorke | woot! better discounts! |
| 19:30.08 | Polarina | Apperantly, Hortus is still posting the ChangeLog. |
| 19:30.41 | ScytheBlade1 | Holy crap mage nerfs |
| 19:30.44 | Kaydeethree | " Dropping the Flag in a battleground will now result in a debuff that will not allow you to pick up the flag again for 3 seconds. " |
| 19:30.51 | Polarina | lol |
| 19:30.56 | ScytheBlade1 | - Hypothermia duration increased to 45 sec. |
| 19:31.04 | ScytheBlade1 | Funny that they didn't post that on the board |
| 19:31.05 | ScytheBlade1 | +s |
| 19:31.17 | Kaydeethree | the QQing is going to be intense |
| 19:31.22 | ScytheBlade1 | Intense? |
| 19:31.27 | ScytheBlade1 | You have a way of understating things |
| 19:31.57 | ScytheBlade1 | - Banish can no longer be cast on targets tapped by other players or |
| 19:31.58 | ScytheBlade1 | groups. |
| 19:31.58 | ScytheBlade1 | Ha |
| 19:32.15 | Cidan | - Gnome: Escape Artist cooldown increased to 1 min, 45 sec. |
| 19:32.16 | alext | that one is really stupid imo |
| 19:32.18 | alext | the banish one |
| 19:32.20 | Cidan | Gnome nerf. |
| 19:32.21 | Cidan | :/ |
| 19:32.25 | cog|work | :( |
| 19:32.26 | ScytheBlade1 | Yeah |
| 19:32.27 | ScytheBlade1 | :/ |
| 19:32.36 | Kaydeethree | "- Portal Spells: Portal spells to capital cities can no longer be cast in battlegrounds. " |
| 19:32.37 | Kaydeethree | boo! |
| 19:32.39 | ScytheBlade1 | <-- has two gnomes and a NE (NE for druid) |
| 19:32.41 | ScytheBlade1 | BOOOOOOOOOO |
| 19:32.50 | mikma | hahahaha |
| 19:32.52 | ScytheBlade1 | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:32.52 | ScytheBlade1 | increased. |
| 19:32.57 | mikma | no more "HELP ME SUMMON!" |
| 19:32.58 | ScytheBlade1 | THANK YOU. |
| 19:33.02 | alext | hopefully its 60min |
| 19:33.10 | ScytheBlade1 | Hopefully |
| 19:34.05 | Cidan | wtf |
| 19:34.06 | Cidan | - Arcane Shot (Ranks 6 and above) now dispel 1 Magic effect in addition |
| 19:34.08 | Cidan | to their normal damage. |
| 19:34.13 | Polarina | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:34.14 | Polarina | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:34.42 | Lunessa | Thanks for linking that Kaydeethree |
| 19:35.12 | Kaydeethree | "Dropped items that were rings/trinkets/one handed weapons that were previously unique are now unique-equipped. That means that you can |
| 19:35.12 | Kaydeethree | have more than one of those items, but you can only have a single one of them equipped." |
| 19:35.15 | Cidan | - Detect Magic removed. All players may now see their target's |
| 19:35.16 | Cidan | beneficial effects at all times. |
| 19:35.30 | ScytheBlade1 | GAME BREAKING CHANGE INCOMING: |
| 19:35.30 | ScytheBlade1 | - Lowered the fireball damage of Defias Pillagers |
| 19:35.42 | cog|work | zomgwoot!!!!! |
| 19:35.43 | Kaydeethree | "- Low Level Cloth Items: All agility and strength on low-level cloth items has been replaced with other stats, usually bonus spell damage, but also sometimes other stats beneficial to mana users. " |
| 19:35.46 | Kaydeethree | only took 3 years |
| 19:35.58 | Lopeppeppy | Yay, cloth for clothies! |
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| 19:36.21 | Cidan | - (NEW SPELL) Ritual of Refreshment available on trainers at level 70. |
| 19:36.22 | Polarina | - Elite mobs outside of pre-Burning Crusade dungeons have been changed |
| 19:36.22 | Polarina | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:36.23 | Polarina | o.O |
| 19:36.26 | Kaydeethree | ooh, " Mind Exhaustion is not applied until Magtheridon is successfully banished. " |
| 19:36.29 | Cidan | woah |
| 19:36.36 | Cidan | no elite mobs in the real world? |
| 19:36.37 | Cidan | wtf? |
| 19:36.45 | Kaydeethree | hopefully not all of them got dropped |
| 19:36.51 | Kaydeethree | hogger had damn well better still be elite |
| 19:37.01 | Polarina | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:37.01 | Polarina | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:37.28 | Cidan | - Cleanse and Purify range increased to 40 yards. |
| 19:37.30 | Cidan | Score! |
| 19:37.59 | Kaydeethree | fun nerf: "The Repolarized Magneto Sphere now only functions within the Blade's Edge Mountains." |
| 19:38.12 | ScytheBlade1 | NOOO |
| 19:38.18 | Polarina | - When you have a trade window open, you can right-click an item to |
| 19:38.18 | Polarina | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:38.28 | ScytheBlade1 | Yeah |
| 19:38.29 | ScytheBlade1 | That's awesome |
| 19:38.31 | Polarina | - When you have unopened mail, you can mouse over the recent mail icon |
| 19:38.31 | Polarina | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:38.36 | Kaydeethree | "When you take damage and have a full screen UI up, the edges of the screen will flash red so you know you are under attack. " |
| 19:38.37 | Thunder_Child | looks like cog|work is going to have to update his macro list |
| 19:38.51 | Thunder_Child | - Client spell cast requests are now sent to the server even if your player is already casting another spell. This eliminates the need for /stopcasting in macros to compensate for latency. |
| 19:38.52 | Polarina | - Quests that are much below your level will now have the tag |
| 19:38.52 | Polarina | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:38.52 | Polarina | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:38.52 | Polarina | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:39.00 | dreamss | - Elite mobs outside of pre-Burning Crusade dungeons have been changed <-- south of winterspring too? |
| 19:39.12 | cog|work | Thunder_Child: yep. a welcome change |
| 19:39.12 | Kaydeethree | we'll see when the ptr comes up in a few hours |
| 19:39.20 | Thunder_Child | sounds like it |
| 19:39.31 | JoshBorke | thank goodness: - Fixed a bug where the global cooldown was triggered when shifting out |
| 19:39.31 | JoshBorke | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:39.35 | Polarina | - Fixed the position of a mineral node in the Blade’s Edge Mountains |
| 19:39.35 | Polarina | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:39.46 | Cidan | oh |
| 19:39.49 | Polarina | - Fixed a bug in the pet sheet stamina mouseover tooltip that showed an |
| 19:39.49 | Polarina | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:39.49 | cog|work | Shirik|AFK: told you so |
| 19:39.55 | Cidan | Polarina: I think it means literally, mobs outside of instances |
| 19:40.06 | Cidan | like, just outside them |
| 19:40.13 | Cidan | are non-elite... maybe? |
| 19:40.36 | dreamss | lol |
| 19:40.48 | Olison | - You can now send up to 12 items in a single mail message. |
| 19:40.49 | Olison | :D |
| 19:40.59 | Olison | gmail max is 25, isnt it? |
| 19:41.00 | dreamss | 2.3 is a fucking godsend |
| 19:41.02 | dreamss | lol |
| 19:41.10 | Cidan | somewhat |
| 19:41.15 | dreamss | gmail sends 25 single mails |
| 19:41.22 | Olison | but i guess, the 2.3 is way faster |
| 19:41.23 | Olison | ye |
| 19:41.28 | Cidan | I'm not happy with the elite mob changes, I really like challenge when I'm leveling |
| 19:41.41 | Cidan | but whatever, we'll see. |
| 19:41.42 | Cidan | - All old world dungeons have had their loot revisited. Players will |
| 19:41.43 | dreamss | quest elites are non elites yeah |
| 19:41.43 | Cidan | now find that all loot dropped inside instances will be of Superior |
| 19:41.44 | Cidan | quality. |
| 19:41.54 | dreamss | yeah link arugal robes |
| 19:41.58 | dreamss | they have spell dmg |
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| 19:42.23 | dreamss | agility got nerfed for spi :P |
| 19:42.24 | ScytheBlade1 | Most epic mage trool I've seen in a long time: http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=2288082172&sid=1 |
| 19:42.32 | art3mis | i wish they're redo strat and scholo and stuff |
| 19:42.40 | cog|work | Kaydeethree: http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=2288172296&sid=1#4 looks like someone needs a diagram... |
| 19:43.01 | art3mis | it seems just retarded that you do those for quests get gear and immediately repalce it the second you hit outlands |
| 19:43.29 | dreamss | i just skipped those istances and got lvl 57 outland greens |
| 19:43.30 | dreamss | lol |
| 19:43.39 | art3mis | dreamss: heh |
| 19:43.57 | Cidan | - The Auction House UI has been much improved. The useless categories |
| 19:43.57 | Cidan | have been removed (Plate-Cloak for instance) and a number of |
| 19:43.57 | Cidan | additional sub categories have been added. In addition, many items |
| 19:43.58 | Cidan | have had their category changed so that they make more sense. |
| 19:43.59 | art3mis | i totally fergot about it |
| 19:44.28 | [Liquidor] | Hi folks. I'm look at the API CheckInteractDistance and I would like to call a func whenever the distIndex value changes (or when it at least changes to/from ~7 yards). How do I do this? Is there any event related? |
| 19:45.03 | art3mis | but this time ive got tsvn installed and im at home so i can jsut go ope explorer and do it now ;) |
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| 19:45.30 | Cidan | check /msg |
| 19:45.35 | benjr | can anyone help me with code for an addon? |
| 19:45.41 | Lunessa | - Fear Ward is now available to all priests at level 20. Duration |
| 19:45.41 | Lunessa | reduced to 3 minutes, cooldown increased to 3 minutes. |
| 19:46.09 | dreamss | horde gets it so they have to nerf it |
| 19:46.13 | Lunessa | At long last, the bitching and moaning will cease. |
| 19:46.42 | art3mis | horde gets fear ward? |
| 19:46.47 | ScytheBlade1 | huh @ - Flying units can see ground units and vice versa at any altitude. |
| 19:46.57 | art3mis | oh wait i see |
| 19:47.08 | art3mis | woo now ud priests have 2!! |
| 19:47.13 | dreamss | same for pallies, they got nerfed |
| 19:47.29 | Kaydeethree | guess it's time for a finding stickies v6 |
| 19:47.41 | dreamss | artis, 3 with pvp trinket |
| 19:47.43 | [Liquidor] | well way more priest races get FW so in this case they gotta increase the CD... no doubt |
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| 19:48.46 | Lunessa | Shaman changes look sweet to me. |
| 19:49.30 | art3mis | dreamss: yay! |
| 19:49.36 | art3mis | screw you bastard locks! |
| 19:49.42 | ScytheBlade1 | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:49.42 | ScytheBlade1 | after being resurrected by a Spirit Guide in the Battleground. |
| 19:49.44 | dreamss | :( |
| 19:49.45 | ScytheBlade1 | That's a definite win |
| 19:50.06 | art3mis | heh so we can rebuff ;P |
| 19:50.16 | art3mis | and not have to drink right after thus dying |
| 19:50.19 | benjr | if i have arg1 from a CHAT_MSG_WHISPER, how do make it so cuts off say the first 3 characters of the string? |
| 19:51.07 | dreamss | whats the limit on the mages water/food stand |
| 19:51.32 | Lunessa | - All old world dungeons have had their loot revisited. Players will now find that all loot dropped inside instances will be of Superior quality. |
| 19:54.47 | MentalPower | benjr: local smallerString = arg1:sub(4) |
| 19:55.39 | benjr | 4 meaning from the 4th character onwards, of the original string? |
| 19:58.53 | ScytheBlade1 | - When you have unopened mail, you can mouse over the recent mail icon |
| 19:58.53 | ScytheBlade1 | and get the name of the people who most recently sent you the mail. |
| 19:58.55 | ScytheBlade1 | Wheeee |
| 19:59.46 | ScytheBlade1 | Whoo, TargetNearestDistance |
| 19:59.51 | ScytheBlade1 | "nerfed"/"fixed" |
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| 20:00.22 | MentalPower | benjr: affirmative |
| 20:00.25 | MentalPower | ~pil |
| 20:00.26 | purl | well, pil is Programming in Lua, a book written by the authors of the Lua programming language. The first edition is available free online at http://www.lua.org/pil and covers Lua 5.0. The second edition is available in print from most online bookstores, and covers Lua 5.1. |
| 20:00.30 | MentalPower | benjr: ^^^^ |
| 20:02.22 | benjr | i didnt seem to get many results when i was searching for how to make addons and what all the codes are, am i right in thinking the codes used inthe lua file arnt specific to WoW? |
| 20:06.11 | MentalPower | no, its standard Lua |
| 20:06.22 | MentalPower | www.wowwiki.com |
| 20:07.15 | benjr | ive never heard of lua till a few moments ago |
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| 20:09.20 | MentalPower | ~lua |
| 20:09.20 | purl | from memory, lua is a powerful light-weight programming language designed for extending applications. It is often used as a configuration language. See http://www.lua.org/. |
| 20:11.07 | benjr | for an absolute beginner like myself, how hard do you think it would be to make an addon watches wispers for certain words, and then auto-replys to it with a preset respsonce? |
| 20:11.29 | MentalPower | not very hard |
| 20:12.06 | MentalPower | you will need to register for the whispers event, and use string.match() to find the words you need |
| 20:12.19 | MentalPower | and then send out the response using SendChatMessage() |
| 20:12.41 | MentalPower | thats the bird's eye overview |
| 20:13.29 | benjr | i took someone elses addon for somehting totaly unrelated, and stripper all their code out of the lua, excpet the stuff for turnign it on/off witha slash command, to give me a starting point |
| 20:13.45 | MentalPower | fair nuf |
| 20:17.04 | benjr | if i wisper myself to test it should it work? or do i need a 3rd person to wisper me? |
| 20:19.26 | Thunder_Child | Starshards (Night Elf) is no longer channeled, costs 0 mana, is now a Magic effect, lasts 15 seconds, causes damage every 3 seconds and has a 30 second cooldown. |
| 20:19.38 | Thunder_Child | rather nice |
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| 20:26.53 | Kirkburn | Wikied the patch notes - http://www.wowwiki.com/Patch_2.3.0 |
| 20:29.12 | Thunder_Child | very happy camper. "Low Level Cloth Items: All agility and strength on low-level cloth items has been replaced with other stats, usually bonus spell damage, but also sometimes other stats beneficial to mana users." |
| 20:31.06 | Kirkburn | :P |
| 20:32.04 | Thunder_Child | what i want to know is, is when are we going to be able to dl the ptr client |
| 20:32.32 | art3mis | "Change the look of all non-outland/TBC items sot hat they appear as burlap sacks and a wooden stick with tinfoil on it. This should alieviate any complaints regarding the look and feel of the pre-TBC teir sets." |
| 20:32.35 | benjr | Client spell cast requests are now sent to the server even if your player is already casting another spell. This eliminates the need for /stopcasting in macros to compensate for latency. |
| 20:32.50 | Elkano | Kirkburn, there is no 'template' how guild pages should look in the wiki besides the policy, is there? |
| 20:33.11 | Kirkburn | [[Help:Guild articles]] I think |
| 20:33.24 | Kirkburn | http://www.wowwiki.com/Help:Guild_articles |
| 20:33.31 | Kirkburn | A base template you can use |
| 20:33.33 | Thunder_Child | what, you dont have wowwiki memorized? fail |
| 20:34.08 | Intangir | how is a guild bank going to work |
| 20:34.14 | Intangir | most of the wow interfaces sorta suck |
| 20:34.19 | Intangir | the pvp interface is broken |
| 20:34.22 | Intangir | the guild interface is buggy |
| 20:34.32 | Intangir | the vendor interface is underfeatured, the login interface is bad |
| 20:34.35 | art3mis | guildbank would be a horrible thing |
| 20:34.38 | art3mis | they' |
| 20:34.46 | Intangir | the bag interface is weak by defaul,t but good enough |
| 20:34.50 | art3mis | re gonna ahve to set the level on it, thus making it behave for the officers and GM anyways |
| 20:35.21 | Intangir | it may be cool for quickly giving items to guild mates across the world |
| 20:35.21 | JoshBorke | the login interface is bad? |
| 20:35.23 | Intangir | just got oa bank |
| 20:35.23 | art3mis | on the plus side it means you get to spend for new slots and get more storage ;P |
| 20:35.24 | Kirkburn | Thunder_Child, 44,000 pages :P |
| 20:35.29 | Intangir | JoshBorke: ya the login interface sucks.. |
| 20:35.41 | Kirkburn | ... |
| 20:35.42 | JoshBorke | you mean, with the 2 editboxes and what, 3 buttons? |
| 20:35.42 | Intangir | i have these issues with it: 1 the order cant be changed |
| 20:35.43 | Thunder_Child | Kirkburn, well get memorizing |
| 20:35.53 | Kirkburn | The login interface |
| 20:35.54 | JoshBorke | or the character select screen? |
| 20:35.55 | foxlit | This update does not need to be applied. It requires version 2.2.2.7318 of "World of Warcraft.app", but you already have version 2.2.3.7359. qq! |
| 20:35.56 | Kirkburn | Sure you meant that? |
| 20:35.57 | Intangir | worse, the default addons, and player specific addons are not good |
| 20:36.11 | Kirkburn | Wait, are we even talking about the same thing? |
| 20:36.18 | Kaydeethree | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=2288042218&sid=1 |
| 20:36.18 | Intangir | i mean, you open it ajnd it always defaults to.. default, not the player you have selected, and it just seems unintuitive |
| 20:36.20 | JoshBorke | he means the character select screen |
| 20:36.36 | Intangir | i mean the character login thing, after you chose a realm |
| 20:36.41 | KarlThePagan | does anyone have a PTR download mirror? |
| 20:36.42 | Thunder_Child | ty Kaydeethree |
| 20:36.42 | Intangir | where you can cahnge addons, and pick a character |
| 20:36.51 | JoshBorke | ptr is not up i thought |
| 20:36.54 | KarlThePagan | server too busy, server too busy, server too busy |
| 20:36.56 | Kaydeethree | ptr's not ready for release yet, go to the link I just posted |
| 20:37.00 | Kirkburn | Version number? |
| 20:37.03 | KarlThePagan | 2.3 |
| 20:37.17 | Kirkburn | >_> |
| 20:37.18 | art3mis | http://speed-test.freehostia.com/hitler.html only not safe for work if your office is german |
| 20:37.27 | Intangir | karl what is a pagan exactly |
| 20:37.32 | Kirkburn | Revision number then :P |
| 20:37.32 | KarlThePagan | "do not attempt to download client" |
| 20:37.43 | Kaydeethree | it'll be "WoW-2.2.3.7359-to-0.3.0.7382-enUS-downloader" |
| 20:37.51 | Kirkburn | Ta KD3 |
| 20:37.56 | KarlThePagan | Intangir, several definitions exist - which one is based on your interpretation |
| 20:38.18 | Intangir | well are you a pagan? and if so what does it mean to you? |
| 20:38.18 | KarlThePagan | want all of them? or my personal identification definition? |
| 20:40.14 | Thunder_Child | hmm... "- Many On Use items now display the cooldown in the item tooltip. " is repeated twice on the patch notes |
| 20:40.22 | Thunder_Child | guess they really mean it |
| 20:40.27 | KarlThePagan | Intangir, yes and my own definition is a practice or belief in a non-Abrahamic religion which gives spiritual value to ones own person and the environment in which you live |
| 20:40.39 | art3mis | or it was "fixed" once and then someone actually fixed it ;P |
| 20:41.35 | Intangir | KarlThePagan: cool |
| 20:41.41 | KarlThePagan | slightly more specific than the usual, and also more generalized as it includes Thoth and pseudo-occult beliefs which some nitt-pickers insist are not 'earth based' |
| 20:42.05 | KarlThePagan | but anyways... QQ wtb PTR download |
| 20:42.36 | Intangir | KarlThePagan: what pseudo occult believes, do you believe plants and stuff have spirits? what do you think happens when you die? |
| 20:43.43 | Intangir | im curious, i would send private messages but freenode is complaining about it for some reason |
| 20:43.46 | Intangir | brb |
| 20:44.13 | KarlThePagan | well I'm regg'd Intangir you probably should too :) |
| 20:44.18 | KarlThePagan | <PROTECTED> |
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| 20:45.04 | KarlThePagan | unless anyone else minds the blatanly offtopic chat I'll answer her until you reg ;) |
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| 20:46.00 | KarlThePagan | Industrial, well I've got a very specific twist on that... you turn into dirt your consciousness ceases to be, memories of you live in others, your offspring continue to live and contribute to the world, your ideas and intellectual creations may take hold in others and inspire new creation |
| 20:46.37 | KarlThePagan | I'm a straight-up materialist / atheist who recognizes the spiritual value of language ;) |
| 20:46.51 | Intangir | ok i regged |
| 20:47.00 | KarlThePagan | kk taking to pm's ;) |
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| 20:50.23 | Kaydeethree | wow, the forums are beyond busted... |
| 20:50.36 | Kaydeethree | one sticky thread in the PTR is halfway down the first page |
| 20:50.42 | Kaydeethree | posted twice |
| 20:51.47 | benjr | What am i doing wrong here? I want this code to wisper someoen back, witht he same they they just said if (event == "CHAT_MSG_WHISPER") then SendChatMessage(arg1, "WHISPER", "Common", arg2); end |
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| 21:02.42 | benjr | can anyone tell me where ive gone wrong int hat above code? it seems so simple i cnat understand how i could ahve messed it up |
| 21:07.04 | Thunder_Child | do you send anything if you simply use the sendchatmessage part? |
| 21:07.58 | benjr | yeah a sendchatmessage("hi") works |
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| 21:09.02 | benjr | is there a command to make the thing "start"? |
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| 21:09.33 | Thunder_Child | no idea, i dont code in lua, but you might try browsing www.wowwiki.com |
| 21:09.34 | Fisker- | how do you know Kaydeethree? |
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| 21:09.53 | Kaydeethree | he's got a sticky up talking about a known bug in the build they're going to push to the website |
| 21:10.07 | Fisker- | oh |
| 21:10.23 | Fisker- | i hope my copies don't get owned |
| 21:10.33 | Fisker- | i just saw "0.2.3" and forgot it was 2.2.3 |
| 21:11.01 | bleeter | ppph, sexy 2.3 notes |
| 21:11.07 | bleeter | oooh |
| 21:11.16 | Fisker- | no u |
| 21:11.21 | Fisker- | ownt |
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| 21:12.06 | Lunessa | OMG... I must need caffeine, sugar, fat and food bulk added to my diet, I'm beginning to desire the death of every poster who asks for a macro... |
| 21:12.34 | Thunder_Child | Lunessa, can i have a macro that plays wow for me when i sleep.... |
| 21:13.00 | Lunessa | Thunder_Child: L2 Chinese PL Service. |
| 21:13.23 | art3mis | thunder codes in rot13 |
| 21:14.13 | Thunder_Child | hardly art3mis, my encription is a bit more advanced |
| 21:14.54 | Kaydeethree | joy... we're going from one forum bug to another |
| 21:15.02 | Kaydeethree | replies aren't showing up. |
| 21:15.08 | Kaydeethree | guess I'll just go back to SimTower for a while |
| 21:17.53 | art3mis | TC: yes but iw as talking about encrYption ;P |
| 21:18.40 | Thunder_Child | my english on the other hand SUCKS...now, go to hell |
| 21:21.47 | art3mis | don't you mean tb gb uryy |
| 21:21.47 | art3mis | rot13.com rules |
| 21:21.47 | art3mis | heh |
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| 21:35.47 | Polarina | Attention programmers! The perfect escuse for slacking at work is right here! See http://xkcd.com/303/ |
| 21:38.56 | benjr | does /reload ui implement changes ot the xml file? |
| 21:39.17 | Thunder_Child | no, the perfect excuse for slacking at work is ....NSFW |
| 21:39.20 | dreamss | unless u coding scripting language :P |
| 21:44.34 | KarlThePagan | or java on eclipse |
| 21:44.46 | KarlThePagan | or you have a sane number of lines of code |
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| 21:46.55 | sag_ich_nicht | BLIZZARD SMELLS |
| 21:47.05 | bleeter | no u |
| 21:47.07 | sag_ich_nicht | no |
| 21:47.09 | sag_ich_nicht | shut your mouth |
| 21:47.18 | sag_ich_nicht | I am quitting WoW once my subscription runs out if they don't fix this |
| 21:47.27 | sag_ich_nicht | we were promised 2.3 will fix paladins |
| 21:47.30 | sag_ich_nicht | no threat reduction |
| 21:47.34 | sag_ich_nicht | they can suck my balls |
| 21:48.09 | dreamss | heh |
| 21:48.21 | dreamss | pallies are blizz bastard child |
| 21:48.35 | dreamss | no fucking res on the ret pvp set? |
| 21:49.11 | dreamss | only 2 seasons for them to realize ret pallies need resilance |
| 21:49.15 | dreamss | took |
| 21:49.51 | KarlThePagan | log on the ptr first lol |
| 21:52.03 | KarlThePagan | lol pets automatically get behind... pure awesome... |
| 21:52.09 | KarlThePagan | i hope it's bugged for pet tanking stuff |
| 21:52.12 | KarlThePagan | watch them spin |
| 21:53.39 | sag_ich_nicht | dreamss: check the forums. |
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| 21:53.45 | sag_ich_nicht | blizzard can't possibly ban them all. |
| 21:53.53 | sag_ich_nicht | there wouldn't be any paladins left on the forums. |
| 21:53.56 | zenzelezz | KarlThePagan: maybe they just realized that hunters were exploiting pet mechanics to avoid engaging in melee combat |
| 21:55.41 | KarlThePagan | I knew strength was a hunter stat! |
| 21:55.51 | KarlThePagan | all those QQ wars who i rolled against can diaf |
| 21:55.58 | KarlThePagan | jk ;) |
| 21:57.28 | KarlThePagan | wait what... cleanse & purify go 40 yards now... but dispel and purge are 30 |
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| 21:57.41 | Xinhuan | "When you inspect another player, you can now see their talent choices as well as their equipment." |
| 21:57.42 | KarlThePagan | 2.3 is like 1.12 |
| 21:58.17 | KarlThePagan | Xinhuan, what notes are you reading? |
| 21:58.25 | Xinhuan | dispel and purge can be used offensively |
| 21:58.30 | Kirkburn | Hey, I just noticed something is in the patch notes that was in the WotLK alpha :P "NPCs with a single function will now display an icon that indicates their function on mouseover." |
| 21:58.32 | Xinhuan | uh the blue posted ones KarlKFI |
| 21:58.35 | Xinhuan | KarlThePagan* |
| 21:58.43 | KarlThePagan | reloaded it... |
| 21:58.45 | Xinhuan | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=2288042225&sid=1 |
| 21:58.48 | Xinhuan | post 8 |
| 21:58.53 | Xinhuan | just below the line about 30 yard inspect |
| 21:59.01 | KarlThePagan | http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/patchnotes/test-realm-patchnotes.html didn't have that line 30 minutes ago :) |
| 21:59.08 | Xinhuan | yeah it was edited |
| 21:59.09 | Xinhuan | clearly |
| 21:59.16 | Xinhuan | because all posts before that were edited |
| 21:59.19 | Xinhuan | and post 8 didn't exist then |
| 21:59.19 | bleeter | I guess that's them acknowledging that people are using armory to see other people's talents |
| 21:59.20 | Kirkburn | egad |
| 21:59.40 | Kirkburn | I have to reedit the patch notes page >< |
| 21:59.45 | bleeter | lol Kirkburn |
| 21:59.57 | Xinhuan | the whole point though, is that it "sort of" validates or lends argument to Rock sending talent info now |
| 22:00.07 | KarlThePagan | ja |
| 22:00.30 | Kirkburn | Aiee, it's quite different |
| 22:00.42 | Xinhuan | yeah you better recopy that patch notes kirk ;p |
| 22:00.47 | bleeter | there was a forum bug earlier which was eating stickies 'n stuff |
| 22:00.50 | Kirkburn | Not bloody likely |
| 22:02.06 | Intangir | whats to stop a person from making a guild bank, and kicking everyone out of his guild ;) |
| 22:02.12 | Intangir | so he can have like 600 extra slots |
| 22:02.17 | Thunder_Child | nothing |
| 22:03.14 | Intangir | i think we are about to see alot of new smaller guilds ;) |
| 22:03.22 | Intangir | i made one called Ron Paul for President ;) |
| 22:03.26 | Intangir | The Returners |
| 22:03.29 | Intangir | SoulFire |
| 22:03.31 | Intangir | and Ashes |
| 22:03.35 | Intangir | i have 4 guilds on my 10 toons ;) |
| 22:03.47 | Intangir | and my main is a member of none of them |
| 22:04.19 | Xinhuan | well i expect guild bank tabs to cost like 1000g |
| 22:04.20 | Xinhuan | each |
| 22:05.19 | wereHamster | tab=?slots? |
| 22:05.27 | Esamynn | tab |
| 22:05.34 | Esamynn | tab = 98 slots |
| 22:05.51 | wereHamster | 10g per slot |
| 22:06.55 | Esamynn | omgz, a benefits for being exalted |
| 22:07.04 | Esamynn | ie. 20% discount from vendors! :) |
| 22:09.47 | Intangir | wtf is this expertise.. |
| 22:09.57 | Intangir | expertise seems unneeded |
| 22:10.03 | Intangir | whats wrong with skill |
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| 22:10.42 | Intangir | mortal strike will reduce health gained from drain life :() |
| 22:10.45 | Intangir | thats a serious warlock nerf |
| 22:10.55 | KarlThePagan | was seriously overpowered in 2v2 |
| 22:10.58 | Intangir | warlocks are one of the only chances that do well against warriors |
| 22:11.11 | Intangir | that just means warrior/paladin will be even more unstoppable |
| 22:11.15 | Esamynn | booooo!!!! |
| 22:11.17 | Intangir | im so sick of warrior/paladin teams in 2v2 |
| 22:11.19 | KarlThePagan | true :( |
| 22:11.19 | Intangir | thats all i see |
| 22:11.25 | Esamynn | they nerfed Heart of the Wild :( |
| 22:11.29 | Intangir | about 90% of the matches i have in 2v2 arena, are warrior/paladin |
| 22:11.37 | Intangir | and we did alright against them cause i got a warlock teammate |
| 22:11.39 | Intangir | but now.. wtf.. |
| 22:11.46 | KarlThePagan | they need to make zerker rage not break fear |
| 22:11.50 | KarlThePagan | fear immune is fine |
| 22:11.53 | Kirkburn | Updated the notes! http://www.wowwiki.com/Patch_2.3.0 |
| 22:12.02 | Intangir | warriors need to be beaten severly with the nerf stick ;) |
| 22:12.16 | KarlThePagan | Esamynn, the 20% str -> 10% atp change? |
| 22:12.21 | Esamynn | yah |
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| 22:12.54 | Kirkburn | The changes - http://www.wowwiki.com/index.php?title=Patch_2.3.0&diff=916615&oldid=916549 |
| 22:12.54 | KarlThePagan | yea, but what about all the druid FAP weapons ;) |
| 22:13.13 | Esamynn | it might end up evening out |
| 22:13.24 | KarlThePagan | some of the druids in my guild are happy about it |
| 22:13.27 | KarlThePagan | the feral ones |
| 22:13.34 | benjr | how fast is string.match()? |
| 22:13.36 | KarlThePagan | serious endgame dps items are all ATP not str |
| 22:13.48 | Esamynn | I always geared for STR over attack power |
| 22:14.04 | KarlThePagan | yea, because it's better ;) |
| 22:14.09 | KarlThePagan | SSC/TK items? |
| 22:14.20 | Esamynn | but now it's not better |
| 22:14.33 | KarlThePagan | yea |
| 22:14.35 | Esamynn | 1 str == 2 atk power, period end of story now |
| 22:14.47 | KarlThePagan | except all atp is up 10% ;) |
| 22:15.00 | KarlThePagan | so you can roll against rogues ;) |
| 22:15.17 | Esamynn | once I can copy over, I'll tell you whether it nerfed my atk power or not |
| 22:15.28 | Esamynn | and WHY do I want to roll against rogues? :P |
| 22:18.03 | Thunder_Child | "The new Guild Banks feature is currently turned off on the PTR, it will be activated later." i wonder why |
| 22:18.23 | Intangir | Dropping the Flag in a battleground will now result in a debuff that will not allow you to pick up the flag again for 3 seconds. |
| 22:18.26 | Intangir | thank you :) |
| 22:19.09 | sag_ich_nicht | this is all unimportant. |
| 22:19.15 | sag_ich_nicht | WE WANT THREAT REDUCTION |
| 22:19.27 | Thunder_Child | your unimportant |
| 22:19.28 | Esamynn | huh? |
| 22:19.30 | Intangir | i think the AV changes will be alot of fun |
| 22:20.02 | sag_ich_nicht | actually check EU general atm: http://forums.wow-europe.com/board.html?sid=1&forumId=10001 |
| 22:20.12 | sag_ich_nicht | (and don't even go near the paladin forums, it's a warzone now.) |
| 22:20.51 | sag_ich_nicht | WAIT |
| 22:20.52 | sag_ich_nicht | WAIT |
| 22:21.05 | sag_ich_nicht | well |
| 22:21.06 | sag_ich_nicht | # |
| 22:21.06 | sag_ich_nicht | # Cooldown removed from Noggenfogger Elixirs. The shrink effect will no longer stack with other shrink effects. |
| 22:21.14 | sag_ich_nicht | that's a half-fail. |
| 22:21.16 | sag_ich_nicht | and a half-win. |
| 22:21.18 | Thunder_Child | thats right..no super mini-mes |
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| 22:24.41 | Intangir | what are paladins angry about? |
| 22:25.05 | Intangir | looks like a ton of buffs.. |
| 22:25.20 | sag_ich_nicht | Intangir they can take all those buffs |
| 22:25.24 | sag_ich_nicht | and stick them up their ASS |
| 22:25.37 | sag_ich_nicht | they are worth NOTHING without threat reduction |
| 22:25.44 | Intangir | they are in pvp |
| 22:25.47 | Intangir | they are worth a fuckload in pvp |
| 22:25.59 | Intangir | as if warrior and paladin werent already overpowered in pvp, it looks like nothing but more buffs for them |
| 22:26.02 | sag_ich_nicht | Intangir they said they want to make ret raid viable. |
| 22:26.09 | sag_ich_nicht | they didn't |
| 22:26.11 | sag_ich_nicht | they LIED |
| 22:26.12 | sag_ich_nicht | AGAIN |
| 22:26.16 | Intangir | i could give a shit about raiding |
| 22:26.17 | Kaso | Seriously sag_ich_nicht how much of the paladin population are ret-raiders? i think a very low number. |
| 22:26.19 | Intangir | im worried about pvp balance |
| 22:26.22 | Intangir | which they are fucking up |
| 22:26.31 | sag_ich_nicht | Kaso: http://forums.wow-europe.com/board.html?sid=1&forumId=10001 that answer your question? |
| 22:26.42 | bleeter | they're angry about a bunch of stuff they've read, not about what they've actually even experienced yet. |
| 22:26.53 | sag_ich_nicht | bleeter. |
| 22:27.10 | Kirkburn | I didn't realise threat reduction was the main problem? |
| 22:27.14 | sag_ich_nicht | jeff said we'll get it. drysc said we'll get it. they lied straight out in our face. |
| 22:27.15 | sag_ich_nicht | it IS. |
| 22:27.16 | bleeter | lord only knows blizz have missed stuff out of patch notes before, only to be found out within half an hour of a PTR going live |
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| 22:27.35 | Kirkburn | If they said it, then amazingly, perhaps they weren't lying |
| 22:27.46 | Kirkburn | When did they say it? |
| 22:27.56 | Kaso | Doesnt really answer my question, even a few thousand bitching on forums aren't representative of the whole class |
| 22:27.58 | sag_ich_nicht | they were. jeff even delete the whole thread where he made the post about it(and yes there ARE screens.) |
| 22:28.04 | bleeter | sag_ich_nicht: and you know that's true, so you're just QQ for no point atm |
| 22:28.22 | sag_ich_nicht | bleeter: frankly said, i don't give a damn. |
| 22:28.41 | Kirkburn | How do you know Jeff deleted the thread? Do you know it was deleted to "hide" it, not because it derailed? |
| 22:28.59 | sag_ich_nicht | i don't care. the change is NOT there. |
| 22:29.15 | sag_ich_nicht | i have been patience and forgiving since the patch one week before release. |
| 22:29.17 | Kirkburn | And the patch isn't live, so give it at least until the PTR goes live |
| 22:29.20 | sag_ich_nicht | ENOUGH is ENOUGH |
| 22:29.31 | sag_ich_nicht | [00:27] <Kirkburn> I didn't realise threat reduction was the main problem? <--i have to stand around doing nothing for 1/3 of a boss encounter because of threat. no other class has to do that. |
| 22:29.31 | bleeter | right, so.. blizz said they'd do something, it's not on the patch notes, you've not confirmed if it's a mistake in the patch notes or actually not there, so you're swearing and cursing and calling them liars and you don't care. qq moar. |
| 22:29.34 | Kirkburn | Enough is enough? Sheesh |
| 22:29.57 | Esamynn | ~calm sag_ich_nicht |
| 22:29.58 | purl | ACTION sooths sag_ich_nicht, offers a backrub, tea, a jacuzzi and anything else that might help calm sag_ich_nicht down. |
| 22:30.00 | wereHamster | sag_ich_nicht, which class are you playing? |
| 22:30.07 | Kirkburn | sag_ich_nicht, now that would be annoying, I can certainly understand that :P |
| 22:30.10 | sag_ich_nicht | wereHamster: Paladin, duh. |
| 22:30.17 | Kirkburn | Retribution |
| 22:30.45 | sag_ich_nicht | [00:30] <Kirkburn> sag_ich_nicht, now that would be annoying, I can certainly understand that :P <--guess what? my DPS sucks because of that. |
| 22:30.58 | Kirkburn | I'm not contesting that! :) |
| 22:31.15 | sag_ich_nicht | when the RL says "go all out" when the boss is at 20% |
| 22:31.18 | sag_ich_nicht | i can't go all out |
| 22:31.22 | sag_ich_nicht | because if do, we wipe. |
| 22:32.18 | sag_ich_nicht | hell, i can't even pop avening wrath without fearing to go above the tank TPS. and no, the tank does NOT suck.-_- |
| 22:32.50 | Kirkburn | I'm just saying, wait and see |
| 22:35.15 | bleeter | hell, anyone would think mistakes aren't made on PTRs, or with patch notes, or thing are not explicitly mentioned in patch notes, or that things don't change on PTRs. it's a *test* realm, after all. |
| 22:35.18 | Lunessa | sag_ich_nicht: As an Enhancement shaman, I have a similar problem with threat. |
| 22:35.34 | sag_ich_nicht | Lunessa: YOU get threat reduction. |
| 22:35.43 | Lunessa | I get 1 talent. |
| 22:35.44 | sag_ich_nicht | we don't. gg, we've been made even LESS raid viable. |
| 22:35.57 | Lunessa | And 1 totem that applies to everyone in my group |
| 22:36.31 | sag_ich_nicht | and i get a buff that applies to everyone in the raid. 30+30=60. but 0+30=30. |
| 22:36.40 | Lunessa | I can't make you happy except by saying that all but 2 rading paladins in my guild are ret. |
| 22:37.08 | sag_ich_nicht | then they will tell you that we need threat reduction. |
| 22:37.36 | Cide | meh, you'll get it sometime |
| 22:37.40 | Lunessa | Mostly they want "maor dps! RAR!!!" |
| 22:38.34 | bleeter | to quote hortus... |
| 22:38.34 | bleeter | "Speculation and complaints about changes that have yet to be experienced do not help in any way and will be deleted." |
| 22:38.58 | sag_ich_nicht | [00:37] <+Cide> meh, you'll get it sometime <--i've heard that phrase |
| 22:39.07 | sag_ich_nicht | since the patch 1 week before release of 1.0 |
| 22:39.11 | sag_ich_nicht | nothing has been done. |
| 22:39.21 | sag_ich_nicht | ret still sucks. |
| 22:39.50 | sag_ich_nicht | that's 15 patches and over 2 years. |
| 22:39.53 | sag_ich_nicht | i've had enough. |
| 22:41.56 | wereHamster | you quitting? |
| 22:42.34 | bleeter | Kaydeethree: check my last post on cogwheel's post in the PTR re: ForumToCPoster, relates to our Mono |
| 22:43.39 | sag_ich_nicht | [00:41] <wereHamster> you quitting? <--the subscription is already removed. account runs out in 5 months. they either fix this, or they can suck my balls |
| 22:46.30 | Valaron|Work | http://www.yourpsychogirlfriend.com/beav/photos.htm |
| 22:47.34 | cog|work | Valaron|Work: sfw? |
| 22:47.39 | Valaron|Work | yes |
| 22:48.14 | Esamynn | Corpses that belong to someone in your party, but that you cannot loot will say in the corpse mouseover who has loot rights on that corpse. Everyone will then see that there is a monster that the master looter has loot rights on. |
| 22:48.20 | cog|work | ok... so it really was a beaver >< |
| 22:49.38 | cog|work | bleeter: umm... i have no idea what you're referring to >< |
| 22:50.29 | Esamynn | When an Addon attempts to perform an action that is prohibited in combat, you will get a chat message "Interface action failed because of an AddOn". This only occurs once per login. |
| 22:50.51 | Xinhuan | that's a pretty silly error message :) |
| 22:50.52 | Xinhuan | tbh |
| 22:51.59 | Thunder_Child | http://gizmodo.com/gadgets/toilet-house/toilet+shaped-housenow-thats-classy-309945.php |
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| 22:54.00 | Cidan | What are you bitching about sag_ich_nicht? |
| 22:54.07 | Cidan | Something raiding what class what? |
| 22:54.54 | Esamynn | bah, |
| 22:55.15 | Esamynn | I keep getting Server Too Busy errors when I try to Download the PTR client, or copy a char |
| 22:55.24 | Xinhuan | because the PTR isn't up yet |
| 22:55.28 | Xinhuan | and you aren't allowed to copy |
| 22:55.32 | Kaydeethree | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=2288042218&sid=1 |
| 22:55.34 | Xinhuan | Hortus even posted so |
| 22:55.44 | Esamynn | heh, I was just going to look at that ;) |
| 22:55.45 | Cidan | not til 6 PST |
| 22:56.03 | sag_ich_nicht | Cidan: THREAT REDUCTION |
| 22:56.16 | Cidan | ? |
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| 22:56.32 | Esamynn | ~gag sag_ich_nicht |
| 22:56.32 | purl | ACTION takes away the voice of sag_ich_nicht and, as an additional precaution, sews sag_ich_nicht's mouth shut permanently... |
| 22:56.44 | JoshBorke | good move |
| 22:59.35 | Esamynn | sag_ich_nicht: was that supposed to hurt? |
| 22:59.42 | Cidan | rofl |
| 22:59.45 | sag_ich_nicht | Cidan: http://forums.wow-europe.com/board.html?forumId=10018&sid=1 |
| 23:00.08 | sag_ich_nicht | Esamynn: i'm a paladin. i only hurt bad people. |
| 23:00.29 | sag_ich_nicht | click the link then you'll have your answer, Cidan. |
| 23:01.55 | Cidan | eh? |
| 23:02.00 | Cidan | You troll to much |
| 23:02.12 | Cidan | it's not that bad |
| 23:02.21 | sag_ich_nicht | Cidan it is. play a ret paladin in a raid. |
| 23:03.06 | Cidan | did, for a year |
| 23:03.08 | sag_ich_nicht | i stand there for 1/3 of the fight not even being capable of auto attacking because of threat. and no, i can't offheal in that time, either, because of the tiny manapool and ludicrous heals. |
| 23:03.37 | Esamynn | sag_ich_nicht: I guess I'm immune to you then :P |
| 23:03.52 | sag_ich_nicht | Esamynn o rly |
| 23:04.07 | sag_ich_nicht | my alt is a fury warrior. |
| 23:04.12 | sag_ich_nicht | he has burning axes. |
| 23:04.26 | Esamynn | I am Druid. I am god |
| 23:04.49 | sag_ich_nicht | my first character was a warlock. he still exists. somewhere on a US account long frozen. |
| 23:04.53 | sag_ich_nicht | i am your end. |
| 23:05.00 | Esamynn | lol |
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| 23:09.54 | Maldivia | hmm, 2.3 looks exciting |
| 23:10.21 | sag_ich_nicht | no |
| 23:10.22 | sag_ich_nicht | it sucks |
| 23:10.27 | sag_ich_nicht | if you think otherwise, then you smell. |
| 23:11.17 | Maldivia | have you ever heard the expression "If you don't have anything nice to say, don't say anything" ? |
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| 23:13.17 | Maldivia | hah, they finally implements a way to tell who has loot rights on a corpse... too bad noone is running MC anymore, with raid leaders yelling "loot the fu*king dog" |
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| 23:13.39 | sag_ich_nicht | [01:11] <Maldivia> have you ever heard the expression "If you don't have anything nice to say, don't say anything" ? <--yeah. i punched the person in the face who said it to me. |
| 23:14.02 | sag_ich_nicht | now THREAT REDUCTION |
| 23:14.47 | Cidan | I think in general Blizzard is dumbing down the game |
| 23:14.53 | Cidan | Making it easier for everyone |
| 23:15.20 | Wobin_ | - Client spell cast requests are now sent to the server even if your |
| 23:15.21 | Wobin_ | player is already casting another spell. This eliminates the need |
| 23:15.21 | Wobin_ | for /stopcasting in macros to compensate for latency. |
| 23:15.23 | Cidan | Which just means that after Conspiracy is done, it will go into maint. mode and I will switch to LotrO, unless of course Blizzard turns it around. |
| 23:15.24 | sag_ich_nicht | cidan every class except paladins has inate threat reduction. |
| 23:15.25 | Wobin_ | O.O |
| 23:15.42 | sag_ich_nicht | lol spellqueue |
| 23:15.42 | Wobin_ | Can it be chaincasting tiem naow? |
| 23:15.53 | sag_ich_nicht | "no it won't be a spellqueue OH WAIT IT IS" |
| 23:16.26 | Wobin_ | - Pets will try to get behind their targets when engaging in melee |
| 23:16.26 | Wobin_ | combat. |
| 23:16.29 | Wobin_ | Oh thank god =P |
| 23:16.36 | Wobin_ | It will be so much easier on gruul |
| 23:16.48 | Wobin_ | except for the fact when they're tanking =P |
| 23:17.11 | Cidan | yeah |
| 23:17.13 | Cidan | I thought about that |
| 23:17.17 | Cidan | not sure how that will work out |
| 23:17.36 | Wobin_ | The racial weapon specs... |
| 23:17.38 | Wobin_ | hm =P |
| 23:17.39 | JoshBorke | sag_ich_nicht: lol. priest |
| 23:17.49 | Wobin_ | and the removal of +weapon skill... |
| 23:18.02 | Cidan | Like I said |
| 23:18.04 | Cidan | easier for all. |
| 23:19.09 | JoshBorke | sag_ich_nicht: priests have no way to reduce threat |
| 23:19.20 | Wobin_ | - Serpent Sting, Immolation Trap and Explosive Trap all gain additional damage based on ranged attack power. |
| 23:19.24 | Olison | fade? |
| 23:19.33 | JoshBorke | fade is temporary |
| 23:19.40 | Olison | hum |
| 23:19.42 | Wobin_ | It's still a threat reduction |
| 23:19.42 | Kaydeethree | fade is temporary and is nullified the instant the priest does anything other than walk |
| 23:19.44 | JoshBorke | after 10 seconds all the threat is back |
| 23:20.08 | JoshBorke | i think someone said that any threat generated while under fade is permanently reduced |
| 23:20.15 | Wobin_ | sag_ich_nicht: and pallys have a threat reduction =P |
| 23:20.16 | Wobin_ | Bubble =) |
| 23:20.17 | JoshBorke | so i guess i am wrong |
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| 23:20.24 | KarlKFI | oooo Weapon Expertise now increases Stam =D |
| 23:20.39 | KarlKFI | total stam 10% is hawt |
| 23:20.49 | sag_ich_nicht | AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA |
| 23:20.53 | sag_ich_nicht | KarlKFI |
| 23:20.55 | sag_ich_nicht | THREAT REDUCTIOn |
| 23:20.58 | sag_ich_nicht | THERE IS NONE |
| 23:20.59 | sag_ich_nicht | also |
| 23:21.02 | KarlKFI | yeah i heard |
| 23:21.06 | sag_ich_nicht | [01:20] <Wobin_> Bubble =) <--you are a MORON |
| 23:21.10 | Wobin_ | oh man =( |
| 23:21.12 | JoshBorke | bubble is temporary too |
| 23:21.14 | Cidan | also |
| 23:21.14 | Wobin_ | CoH changes |
| 23:21.20 | Wobin_ | >< |
| 23:21.23 | KarlKFI | that'll put me over 1k stam i think |
| 23:21.28 | Wobin_ | sag_ich_nicht: Why thank you =P |
| 23:21.33 | Wobin_ | You're a moron too! |
| 23:21.35 | Cidan | Paladin's are just fine. |
| 23:21.37 | Cidan | Quit crying |
| 23:21.38 | sag_ich_nicht | no |
| 23:21.41 | sag_ich_nicht | they are not |
| 23:21.44 | Wobin_ | if we're just randomly insulting people |
| 23:21.49 | KarlKFI | SoH? |
| 23:21.55 | Wobin_ | Hey JoshBorke, you're a moron! |
| 23:21.55 | KarlKFI | Coh* |
| 23:22.00 | sag_ich_nicht | bubble sets it to 0. then when it runs out, takes the original value you had and adds all the aggro you created while under the bubble and adds it to that. |
| 23:22.06 | JoshBorke | Wobin_: thanks! |
| 23:22.14 | JoshBorke | sag_ich_nicht: sounds like Fade to me :-D |
| 23:22.16 | KarlKFI | you lost me |
| 23:22.49 | KarlKFI | so bubble is now actually a temporary hiding of all agro? |
| 23:22.56 | sag_ich_nicht | it always was |
| 23:23.01 | Wobin_ | Circle of Healing: The base amount of healing from this spell has been reduced along with increasing the bonus it receives from bonus healing effects. Characters with more than 1338 healing will see their Circle of Healing heal for more than previous patches. Characters with less than 1338 healing will see their Circle of Healing heal for less. |
| 23:23.02 | JoshBorke | sag_ich_nicht: tell you what. get a SS and DI a shadow priest next time you hit threat ceiling :-) |
| 23:23.17 | KarlKFI | i'm confused |
| 23:23.30 | sag_ich_nicht | KarlKFI: don't bubble while tanking. |
| 23:23.35 | sag_ich_nicht | you will wipe. |
| 23:23.36 | KarlKFI | that's what we did in void reaver on my last guild |
| 23:23.40 | Wobin_ | hehe Elune's Grace is finally somewhat useful =) |
| 23:23.52 | sag_ich_nicht | JoshBorke: that happens all the time during fights. i can't stack 6 SSs. |
| 23:23.54 | sag_ich_nicht | :P |
| 23:23.55 | KarlKFI | sag, how has that changed? |
| 23:24.11 | Wobin_ | sag_ich_nicht: If you're tanking, why do you want to reduce aggro anyway? |
| 23:24.16 | JoshBorke | sag_ich_nicht: btw, which fight is this? VR? |
| 23:24.38 | KarlKFI | wobin it's not agro it's to avoid dying |
| 23:24.52 | KarlKFI | but the healers hate you for it |
| 23:25.03 | KarlKFI | you can just tant after you bubble, no? |
| 23:25.07 | KarlKFI | taunt* |
| 23:25.12 | JoshBorke | can't taunt |
| 23:25.19 | JoshBorke | well, can't taunt everything anyway |
| 23:25.22 | JoshBorke | i don't know what fight this is |
| 23:25.25 | KarlKFI | so.... |
| 23:25.36 | KarlKFI | i dont see a bubble change on the patch list.. |
| 23:25.36 | sag_ich_nicht | [01:24] <Wobin_> sag_ich_nicht: If you're tanking, why do you want to reduce aggro anyway? <--i'm not. i was talking to KarlKFI that he shouldn't bubble while tanking. |
| 23:25.48 | sag_ich_nicht | [01:25] <KarlKFI> you can just tant after you bubble, no? <--yes |
| 23:25.50 | sag_ich_nicht | that works |
| 23:25.56 | KarlKFI | so.... |
| 23:25.58 | sag_ich_nicht | but the taunt doesn't last as long as bubble does |
| 23:25.59 | sag_ich_nicht | and |
| 23:26.04 | KarlKFI | what actually changed about bubble? |
| 23:26.08 | sag_ich_nicht | nothing. |
| 23:26.12 | KarlKFI | so... |
| 23:26.12 | Wobin_ | Man, Rogues get nerfed =( |
| 23:26.19 | KarlKFI | why did you bring it up? |
| 23:26.20 | sag_ich_nicht | you have 1.5 seconds of the boss running around wild |
| 23:26.32 | sag_ich_nicht | KarlKFI: because: |
| 23:26.32 | sag_ich_nicht | [01:20] <Wobin_> sag_ich_nicht: and pallys have a threat reduction =P |
| 23:26.32 | sag_ich_nicht | [01:20] <Wobin_> Bubble =) |
| 23:26.36 | sag_ich_nicht | which is wrong. |
| 23:26.39 | KarlKFI | ahh |
| 23:26.55 | KarlKFI | right it's not a threat redux, it's just a temp avoidance of death |
| 23:27.03 | Wobin_ | well, see, I thought you were talking about threat reduction. Not for damage reduction |
| 23:27.11 | KarlThePagan | it's a slightly better fade :) |
| 23:27.16 | Wobin_ | in for the -reason- for bubbling |
| 23:27.17 | sag_ich_nicht | fucking morons making assumptions about our class without knowing something about it |
| 23:27.27 | Wobin_ | sag_ich_nicht: quit with the insults |
| 23:27.30 | Wobin_ | now |
| 23:27.38 | Wobin_ | we're not making fucking assumptions |
| 23:27.50 | KarlKFI | no we have no threat redux, thankfully my guild is now more geared than i am, so i can usually go all out |
| 23:27.54 | sag_ich_nicht | bubble is not a threat reduction. you asumed it is. |
| 23:27.54 | Wobin_ | we're completely confused as to the actual SUBJECT of discussion |
| 23:28.09 | sag_ich_nicht | the subject is that PALADINS DEMAND THREAT REDUCTION FOR RET. |
| 23:28.10 | JoshBorke | i missed the start of the conversation |
| 23:28.17 | Wobin_ | sag_ich_nicht: It -is- a reduction. It's only temporary |
| 23:28.18 | KarlKFI | my subject was that they buffed pally tanking stam, yay! |
| 23:28.31 | JoshBorke | my subject is that shadow priests need threat reduction too |
| 23:28.37 | sag_ich_nicht | they have |
| 23:28.40 | KarlThePagan | they have it |
| 23:28.44 | KarlKFI | that means i can prolly hit 14k self buffed |
| 23:28.45 | sag_ich_nicht | 1. they are ranged 2. they have a talent for it |
| 23:29.03 | sag_ich_nicht | JoshBorke: let me help you: http://forums.wow-europe.com/board.html?forumId=10001&sid=1 |
| 23:29.27 | KarlThePagan | the subject is that PTR client download needs to go up soon! |
| 23:29.27 | KarlKFI | "Power Word: Shield now gains additional benefit from spell damage and healing bonuses." nice |
| 23:29.54 | Sixen | ~summon KD3 |
| 23:29.54 | purl | apt takes out 20 clean, identical-looking phones, some extra hands, and pretends to be a telemarketer for a large corporation, so he gets delivered a phonelist containing KD3's coordinates |
| 23:29.55 | Wobin_ | rofl |
| 23:29.56 | Wobin_ | - Seed of Corruption detonation will now obey line of sight. |
| 23:29.58 | KarlKFI | ooo Starshards buff |
| 23:30.03 | Kaydeethree | hm? |
| 23:30.15 | Wobin_ | yay for no more kara warlock OMGZERG deaths =P |
| 23:30.17 | Sixen | Lets make the PTR guild/thread when it's up? |
| 23:30.19 | KarlThePagan | I'm pretty sure that SoC change is meant to fix pulling 2 floors of Philanthropists in KZ |
| 23:30.23 | Kaydeethree | sure |
| 23:30.27 | sag_ich_nicht | [01:29] <Wobin_> - Seed of Corruption detonation will now obey line of sight. <--aka "we couldn't POSSIBLE fix the instances so we changed the spell" |
| 23:30.33 | sag_ich_nicht | *possibly |
| 23:30.34 | KarlThePagan | hahaha yea |
| 23:30.34 | Wobin_ | sag_ich_nicht: totally =) |
| 23:30.49 | Sixen | There are No Pre-mades for 2.3 |
| 23:30.50 | Wobin_ | Walls? Floors? Solid? what's that? |
| 23:30.51 | Sixen | LOLOLOLOL |
| 23:30.53 | Sixen | That's gg. |
| 23:31.02 | sag_ich_nicht | that's a good thing. |
| 23:31.03 | Kaydeethree | I've been saying it was coming all along |
| 23:31.04 | Wobin_ | Sixen: OH NOES, WHO SHALL I DUEL? |
| 23:31.05 | Esamynn | Sixen: that was to be expected |
| 23:31.10 | Esamynn | they ARE tuning a dungeon |
| 23:31.12 | JoshBorke | lol: |
| 23:31.12 | JoshBorke | Yep, it's awesome, I'm down to 1300tps when VE is effectivelyhealing, and that's including salvation and subtlety... deal with ittbh ;) |
| 23:31.17 | KarlKFI | noooooo Blind can't be dispelled |
| 23:31.19 | Sixen | Guys: I'm copy/pasting that from the Sticky, i'm not complaining about it, :P |
| 23:31.29 | KarlThePagan | WTS lv 70 priest PTR account - 2pc season 1, 2pc season 2 |
| 23:31.35 | KarlKFI | isn't that a Morose buff? |
| 23:31.40 | Wobin_ | KarlKFI: it's a physical though |
| 23:31.48 | KarlThePagan | bubble :) |
| 23:31.54 | Wobin_ | exactly |
| 23:32.03 | KarlThePagan | and bleeds were always physical |
| 23:32.16 | KarlThePagan | stoneform still works there ;) just not for blind :( |
| 23:32.25 | Esamynn | Sixen: if you want to make a PTR guild, you can always ask Cairenn to coordinate it :) |
| 23:32.37 | Wobin_ | well Blind isn't exactly defined as a bleed |
| 23:32.51 | KarlThePagan | no, it was a poison... i meant... the morose thing |
| 23:32.55 | Wobin_ | It's now a rogue throwing... err... -something- in your eye |
| 23:33.00 | KarlThePagan | heh yea |
| 23:33.04 | Wobin_ | KarlThePagan: Garrotte? |
| 23:33.05 | Sixen | Wonder when it'll be up. |
| 23:33.16 | KarlThePagan | yea garrotte... different, moroes does blind tho |
| 23:33.27 | KarlKFI | "Mana Spring Totem effect increased" poo poo |
| 23:33.35 | Wobin_ | I thought he just vanishes and then garrotes a random player |
| 23:33.45 | KarlThePagan | yea and also randomly blinds and gouges |
| 23:33.50 | Wobin_ | Or gouges the tank |
| 23:33.53 | Wobin_ | then vanishes |
| 23:33.57 | KarlThePagan | all 3 |
| 23:33.59 | KarlThePagan | err 4 |
| 23:34.00 | KarlKFI | he blinds the tank sometimes which is why you need 2 |
| 23:34.08 | Wobin_ | Man, warlocks have been nerfed =P |
| 23:34.15 | KarlThePagan | fixed imo |
| 23:34.39 | KarlThePagan | i know someone in the 2v2 2200 bracket and I'm sorry for them but yes... drain tank in 2v2 is OP |
| 23:34.46 | KarlKFI | nooooo "Two-Handed Axes and Two-Handed Maces are now trainable by all Shaman |
| 23:34.46 | KarlKFI | at the appropriate weapon masters. " |
| 23:35.28 | KarlThePagan | are there any enh or resto shamans who would roll against you anyways? |
| 23:35.32 | sag_ich_nicht | wait |
| 23:35.34 | sag_ich_nicht | SHUT UP |
| 23:35.47 | sag_ich_nicht | wwe decode weapon skill? |
| 23:35.51 | sag_ich_nicht | and now they KILL IT? |
| 23:35.54 | KarlThePagan | ahhaah yea |
| 23:35.54 | sag_ich_nicht | what the fuck blizzard. |
| 23:35.58 | sag_ich_nicht | good i'm human. |
| 23:36.07 | Wobin_ | yeah |
| 23:36.14 | KarlThePagan | yea... I was about to delete my lv 30 human pally... now i might keep her for ret |
| 23:36.17 | Wobin_ | the whole removal of weapon skill sucks |
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| 23:36.31 | Wobin_ | - New recipes are available from the Honor Hold, Thrallmar, and Lower City quartermasters to create 24 slot quivers and ammo pouches. |
| 23:36.34 | Wobin_ | ^ yay! |
| 23:36.47 | sag_ich_nicht | # |
| 23:36.47 | sag_ich_nicht | # Players no longer gain the moving AOE radius bonus if they are jumping. |
| 23:36.49 | sag_ich_nicht | noooooooooo |
| 23:36.51 | KarlKFI | hope they added cheeper 20slot bags.. |
| 23:36.58 | sag_ich_nicht | my cheap speed"hack" |
| 23:37.00 | sag_ich_nicht | they killed it |
| 23:37.00 | sag_ich_nicht | :( |
| 23:37.08 | sag_ich_nicht | (aka bunnyhopping. ALWAYS.) |
| 23:37.16 | KarlKFI | "Adamantite Weapon Chain" woot! |
| 23:37.16 | Wobin_ | - Shadowmoon Grunts will no longer drop Black Temple quality loot. |
| 23:37.17 | Wobin_ | hehe |
| 23:37.18 | KarlThePagan | oh wow... my dwarf hunter gets 1% bonus crit... it's like... being a NE rogue! |
| 23:37.19 | KarlThePagan | kek |
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| 23:38.07 | KarlKFI | " track fishing nodes." woot! |
| 23:38.15 | KarlThePagan | sag_ich_nicht, is weapon skill completely gone? like no more glancing blows and grinding up weapon skill to use new weapons? |
| 23:38.16 | |Jelly| | Man. I can't believe I missed the conversation that prompted the MOTD. |
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| 23:38.42 | Wobin_ | awww |
| 23:38.47 | Wobin_ | The Chess Event chess in Karazhan now has a tap list so it can only be looted by players who were involved in the chess event. |
| 23:38.52 | sag_ich_nicht | [01:38] <KarlThePagan> sag_ich_nicht, is weapon skill completely gone? like no more glancing blows and grinding up weapon skill to use new weapons? <--nope |
| 23:39.02 | sag_ich_nicht | they just killed the stat itself on items. |
| 23:39.06 | sag_ich_nicht | thus: good thing i'm human. |
| 23:39.08 | Sixen | Brb. |
| 23:39.09 | sag_ich_nicht | still get my +hit. |
| 23:39.09 | Wobin_ | and skills |
| 23:39.12 | KarlThePagan | yea... so functionally it only exists to punish players |
| 23:39.34 | KarlThePagan | sag_ich_nicht, check blue tracker... I think human and orc racials are being changed too |
| 23:39.43 | sag_ich_nicht | oh god damn it no. |
| 23:39.46 | Cidan | nope |
| 23:39.48 | KarlThePagan | yea :( |
| 23:39.50 | Cidan | only on items |
| 23:39.52 | Cidan | I thought |
| 23:40.03 | sag_ich_nicht | functionaly it means my crusader strike is gimped again even with 6 second cooldown because it won't always hit and refresh |
| 23:40.05 | Cidan | otherwise I'm deleting my human paladin |
| 23:40.05 | sag_ich_nicht | gg blizzard |
| 23:40.22 | KarlThePagan | Cidan, Hortus owned you - http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=2288092371&pageNo=1&sid=1#11 |
| 23:40.29 | sag_ich_nicht | you made my raid viability even TINIER. |
| 23:40.31 | KarlThePagan | "The Human and Orc racials were also changed, I will see about having that added to the patch notes." |
| 23:40.32 | Wobin_ | Weapon Skill: All items and abilities that granted weapon skill have been changed. In most cases, they were converted to expertise or expertise rating. Ranged attacks do not benefit from expertise, so ranged weapon skill has generally been replaced by critical strike bonuses or hit bonuses. In a few cases, talents have been changed to other effects to avoid granting players excessive amounts of expertise. |
| 23:40.55 | sag_ich_nicht | god damn it what's the point of it. now you can always have a miss |
| 23:41.00 | KarlThePagan | but Cidan the new weapon expertise is better eh? |
| 23:41.20 | KarlThePagan | ah... always missing eh? |
| 23:41.23 | KarlKFI | "All old world dungeons have had their loot revisited. Players will now find that all loot dropped inside instances will be of Superior quality. " wha? |
| 23:41.40 | KarlKFI | no more greens or no more legendary? |
| 23:41.46 | KarlThePagan | no more greens |
| 23:41.55 | Wobin_ | rofl |
| 23:41.58 | Wobin_ | When you inspect another player, you can now see their talent choices as well as their equipment. |
| 23:42.00 | sag_ich_nicht | MISS. YOUR CRUSADER STRIKE DOES NOTHING. PARRY. ALL JUDGEMENTS HAVE FALLEN OFF THE BOSS. GG |
| 23:42.06 | KarlThePagan | the first character I transfer is gonna be my lv 22 paladin |
| 23:42.12 | KarlKFI | omg, what's the new ret pally Arena Relics? |
| 23:42.22 | sag_ich_nicht | KarlKFI: look at it. |
| 23:42.27 | KarlKFI | wherE? |
| 23:42.31 | sag_ich_nicht | they changed human racials too. |
| 23:42.32 | Kaydeethree | well aren't we just a little cesspool of optimism... |
| 23:42.35 | sag_ich_nicht | just missing from the notes |
| 23:42.42 | KarlThePagan | Cidan, Hortus owned you - http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=2288092371&pageNo=1&sid=1#11 |
| 23:42.45 | KarlThePagan | heh mt |
| 23:42.49 | sag_ich_nicht | Kaydeethree: hi. i'm a retribution paladin, lied to since 1 week before game release. |
| 23:42.50 | KarlThePagan | meant to just paste the url |
| 23:42.51 | Mr_Rabies2 | hrmm |
| 23:43.07 | KarlKFI | look at what sag? |
| 23:43.16 | Kaydeethree | so, why are you still paying the rough equivalent of ~15usd/month to be lied to? |
| 23:43.16 | sag_ich_nicht | KarlKFI: they changed the racial for humans too |
| 23:43.18 | Mr_Rabies2 | anyone have a link to the 2.3 ptr patch? torrent or wow downloader? |
| 23:43.20 | sag_ich_nicht | no more weaponskill |
| 23:43.23 | KarlKFI | "Cooldown removed from Noggenfogger Elixirs." wooo |
| 23:43.23 | Mr_Rabies2 | assuming its available :o |
| 23:43.30 | Kaydeethree | Mr_Rabies, neg. website's still disabled |
| 23:43.37 | KarlKFI | i can jump off a cliff and pot till i get floating! |
| 23:43.44 | sag_ich_nicht | KarlKFI: means LOL MISS |
| 23:43.51 | KarlThePagan | sag_ich_nicht, but they're reducing cooldown on crusader strike... won't that help your keeping judgements up? |
| 23:43.54 | Wobin_ | hm |
| 23:43.55 | Wobin_ | - When an Addon attempts to perform an action that is prohibited in |
| 23:43.56 | sag_ich_nicht | means: CS NOW EVEN MORE LESS USEFUL |
| 23:43.56 | Wobin_ | combat, you will get a chat message "Interface action failed because |
| 23:43.56 | Wobin_ | of an AddOn". This only occurs once per login. |
| 23:44.12 | Wobin_ | I wonder how... useless that will make debugging O.O |
| 23:44.14 | KarlKFI | sag, i can easily get 7.25 hit without the tallent |
| 23:44.44 | KarlThePagan | i think sag was saying he could eliminate the mandatory miss chance with weapon skill... but i dunno about that |
| 23:44.49 | KarlKFI | it' sjust liek 1 item swap for me on bosses |
| 23:45.03 | KarlThePagan | the last 1% |
| 23:45.08 | sag_ich_nicht | KarlKFI: you can, i can't. it doesn't help if we have a (very limited) use in highend content if the entry level is closed. |
| 23:45.12 | sag_ich_nicht | catch-22 etc. |
| 23:45.18 | KarlThePagan | sag_ich_nicht, gems? |
| 23:45.28 | KarlKFI | "Dropped items that were rings/trinkets/one handed weapons that were previously unique are now unique-equipped." yay! i can loot items i already have to sell |
| 23:45.52 | Wobin_ | KarlKFI: hehe, Yay, I can finally sell all those blackout truncheons =P |
| 23:46.17 | KarlKFI | yay new everywhere ogrila pots! |
| 23:46.26 | KarlKFI | no more tossign stacks of shards |
| 23:46.42 | KarlThePagan | KarlKFI, 23s for 10 shards |
| 23:46.47 | Wobin_ | oh thank god =) |
| 23:46.50 | KarlThePagan | buy tabbard... sell tabbard |
| 23:46.55 | sag_ich_nicht | # |
| 23:46.55 | sag_ich_nicht | # Hypothermia duration increased to 45 sec. |
| 23:46.57 | KarlKFI | they're sellable now? they didn't used to be |
| 23:46.59 | sag_ich_nicht | lol forstmage nerf. |
| 23:46.59 | KarlThePagan | but yea... i'd rather have a functional potion |
| 23:47.12 | KarlThePagan | on live right now you can sell tabbard |
| 23:47.15 | KarlThePagan | dunno about PTR |
| 23:47.19 | Wobin_ | KarlKFI: only if you convert them into tabards =) |
| 23:47.22 | KarlKFI | right, but not the shards |
| 23:47.26 | Wobin_ | yeah |
| 23:47.44 | Wobin_ | KarlThePagan: actually, you can convert them into potions |
| 23:47.47 | Wobin_ | and sell those |
| 23:47.50 | Wobin_ | cause they stack better |
| 23:47.57 | KarlThePagan | Wobin_, stack better but sell for less |
| 23:47.57 | Wobin_ | so you get rid of more at a time =) |
| 23:48.07 | Wobin_ | pft |
| 23:48.08 | Wobin_ | 23s? |
| 23:48.08 | KarlThePagan | i'll click a few more times for an extra 1g |
| 23:48.17 | KarlThePagan | try it an see... pft yourself |
| 23:48.25 | Wobin_ | WEll you could sell them on the AH =) |
| 23:48.32 | KarlKFI | yay, they nurfed the kael encounter |
| 23:48.51 | Wobin_ | - You can now send up to 12 items in a single mail message. |
| 23:48.53 | Wobin_ | ohho |
| 23:49.03 | KarlThePagan | i'll probably start sending potions to my alts rather than AH them |
| 23:49.05 | Wobin_ | goodbye ctmailmod? |
| 23:49.12 | KarlKFI | yay, Rays can be wrangled before they're 1shattable |
| 23:49.19 | KarlKFI | shottable* |
| 23:49.24 | KarlThePagan | Wobin_, I mass mail hundreds of items when i can ;) |
| 23:49.31 | Wobin_ | KarlKFI: Oh thank god |
| 23:49.37 | Wobin_ | Those things are so DAMN DELICATE |
| 23:49.47 | KarlKFI | "Aether rays can now be wrangled earlier." |
| 23:49.49 | KarlThePagan | ret aura imo |
| 23:50.07 | KarlThePagan | but yea... |
| 23:50.15 | KarlThePagan | it's fun to SWD rays horde are wrangling |
| 23:50.16 | KarlKFI | Charged Crystal Focus no longer looks like health stones |
| 23:50.20 | sag_ich_nicht | [01:49] <KarlKFI> "Aether rays can now be wrangled earlier." <--jesus christ THANK YOU |
| 23:50.22 | sag_ich_nicht | but still |
| 23:50.24 | KarlThePagan | AHAHAH good god |
| 23:50.25 | sag_ich_nicht | THREAT REDUCTION |
| 23:50.48 | Wobin_ | KarlKFI: Never really bothered me =P |
| 23:50.50 | KarlKFI | meh, i prefer to look at the good things, like dmg increases |
| 23:51.00 | KarlKFI | and +stam |
| 23:51.21 | KarlKFI | threat will be fixed eventually, when we now pull agro off everything with leet dps |
| 23:51.51 | Wobin_ | hehe |
| 23:51.52 | KarlKFI | AH times changed to 12, 24, or 48 hours |
| 23:51.53 | Wobin_ | give it time =) |
| 23:52.08 | Mr_Rabies2 | woo |
| 23:52.13 | Mr_Rabies2 | hamstring nerfed |
| 23:52.20 | Wobin_ | KarlKFI: Well now they're implementing the single command AH pull... |
| 23:52.21 | KarlKFI | The Battle Map has been renamed to the Zone Map and can be turned on for any zone rather than just PvP objective zones. |
| 23:52.32 | Mr_Rabies2 | you could already do that, Anduin |
| 23:52.33 | Wobin_ | (I -hope- it's 2.3) |
| 23:52.41 | KarlKFI | yeah, but not in the default ui |
| 23:52.55 | Mr_Rabies2 | well |
| 23:52.58 | Mr_Rabies2 | not on purpose |
| 23:53.03 | KarlKFI | When you take damage and have a full screen UI up, the edges of the screen will flash red so you know you are under attack. |
| 23:53.15 | KarlKFI | omfg |
| 23:53.18 | Mr_Rabies2 | i was in arathi highlands and my wsg timer popped once |
| 23:53.24 | KarlKFI | When you inspect another player, you can now see their talent choices as well as their equipment. |
| 23:53.28 | KarlKFI | YES! |
| 23:53.35 | Wobin_ | Hi2uRockComm =) |
| 23:53.38 | Mr_Rabies2 | i accepted the queue |
| 23:53.53 | Mr_Rabies2 | and it loaded, and i was still in arathi highlands |
| 23:54.00 | Mr_Rabies2 | but had a battle map and could talk in /bg |
| 23:54.16 | KarlKFI | yay no more gossip on single function npc's |
| 23:54.17 | KarlThePagan | sounds like the week xserver bg's were released |
| 23:54.33 | Wobin_ | Looks like Enh Shammies are getting buffed |
| 23:55.00 | Wobin_ | Shamanistic Focus is pretty cool |
| 23:55.14 | Mr_Rabies2 | KarlKFI, lern2getoffgetgoing |
| 23:55.20 | Wobin_ | 40% shock cast on melee crit |
| 23:55.29 | KarlKFI | omg, party lootable corpse now say in the tooltip who has loot priveledges |
| 23:55.36 | Mr_Rabies2 | yup |
| 23:55.49 | sag_ich_nicht | Nutral, the flight master in Shattrath City, now has a quest for characters who are level 70 and do not yet have a riding skill of 225. The quest will direct a character to visit the appropriate riding instructor in Shadowmoon Valley so that the player will know where they can purchase the skill necessary to use a flying mount. |
| 23:55.50 | sag_ich_nicht | lol. |
| 23:55.53 | sag_ich_nicht | NOOB TRAINING |
| 23:55.54 | sag_ich_nicht | amirite |
| 23:55.57 | Mr_Rabies2 | it should also have <dis corpse has sum epickz> |
| 23:56.00 | sag_ich_nicht | KarlKFI no |
| 23:56.01 | sag_ich_nicht | shut up |
| 23:56.05 | Wobin_ | sag_ich_nicht: rofl, totally =P |
| 23:56.08 | sag_ich_nicht | they didn't give us threat reduction |
| 23:56.15 | sag_ich_nicht | don't get WEAKENED by their LIES |
| 23:56.18 | sag_ich_nicht | they PROMISED it |
| 23:56.27 | *** join/#wowi-lounge Thelyna (n=burp@60-234-130-239.bitstream.orcon.net.nz) |
| 23:56.28 | sag_ich_nicht | yet they gave us nothing |
| 23:56.33 | sag_ich_nicht | don't be blinded, karl! |
| 23:56.37 | Mr_Rabies2 | they could always nerf your dps |
| 23:56.43 | Mr_Rabies2 | that would lower threat |
| 23:56.46 | KarlKFI | "Many interface elements now display players in their class color" oh got that's gonna break Arch |
| 23:57.16 | Mr_Rabies2 | KarlKFI: http://www.curse.com/downloads/details/3171/ |
| 23:57.26 | sag_ich_nicht | Mr_Rabies2: what dps. the threatcap already limits it to the point were you can't even auto attack 1/4 of a bossfight. |
| 23:57.41 | Mr_Rabies2 | i'm just joking :p |
| 23:57.47 | KarlKFI | Mr_Rabies2: i already have TurnIn which does the same thing |
| 23:57.52 | sag_ich_nicht | i have to stand and do NOTHING for quite some time in some bossfights. that is NOT FUN. |
| 23:58.00 | Mr_Rabies2 | i know, sag_ich_nicht |
| 23:58.02 | Mr_Rabies2 | i do too |
| 23:58.03 | Mr_Rabies2 | :[ |
| 23:58.08 | Mr_Rabies2 | on my drood |
| 23:58.18 | Mr_Rabies2 | and we HAVE a threat reduction |
| 23:58.19 | sag_ich_nicht | boomkin? |
| 23:58.21 | KarlKFI | oooo "Many On Use items now display the cooldown in the item tooltip." |
| 23:58.23 | Mr_Rabies2 | nah, kitty |
| 23:58.35 | Mr_Rabies2 | well we have a passive one |
| 23:58.39 | Mr_Rabies2 | cower hardly counts |
| 23:58.41 | KarlKFI | yay block tooltip |
| 23:58.56 | KarlKFI | ok i thinkt hat's it |
| 23:59.02 | sag_ich_nicht | # |
| 23:59.02 | sag_ich_nicht | # Game objects that you can interact with have a glow around them and display their name over the object to make them more obvious. |
| 23:59.08 | sag_ich_nicht | please tell me i can turn that off. |
| 23:59.11 | sag_ich_nicht | PLEASE. |
| 23:59.13 | KarlKFI | time for doing borign dailies old school style |
