IRC log for #wowi-lounge on 20071010

00:00.43alestaneWell, I didn't name the header because I didn't think it was needful, but I'll note that as a likely cause.
00:02.20alestanehttp://wowi.pastey.net/75102
00:02.29alestaneThat's the whole add-on less TOC.
00:03.59alestaneMight possibly be a frame level problem.
00:05.20alestaneYES!
00:06.01alestaneFor some reason PetActionBarFrame was being shown in front of the PetActionButtons, although they are all level 3.
00:06.28Cidanwell if two things are on the same level, one will have to be in front of the other.
00:06.36alestaneI take it there are noguarantees about order of frames with the same level?
00:06.40CidanI think it's in order of creation, or order in which they were set.
00:06.49CidanOne of the two
00:06.54alestaneSome secure state code also raises frames.
00:06.55CidanI know it's not random -- I remember testing it
00:07.30alestaneThere's on wiki entry for :Raise()...any detailed info on what it does?
00:07.37Cidannewp
00:07.41Cidantry it out
00:08.03alestaneDoesn't help.
00:09.45alestane:Raise() and :Lower() don't help but PetActionBarFrame:SetFrameLevel(2) seems to fix it.
00:11.38alestaneThink I need to check those levels without the add-on running, too.
00:13.45alestaneLooks like I allowed my header frame to be created at the wrong level, it bumped the PetActionBarFrame up by one.
00:17.25alestaneLooks like I got it working. The state header needs to be set to level 1, or when I parent PetActionBarFrame to it it bumps the new child's level op to one higher than the new parent.
00:19.02alestaneI have to go invite abuse on the forums now.
00:21.48Lunessaheh
00:25.50alestaneOkay, link is posted...probably should have posted an add-on instead of a pasty, but we'll see if this helps at all.
00:26.30alestaneThink I should throw it on wowinterface or something as a complete addon?
00:26.56alestaneI want to make sure that Bliz doesn't have any potential legal problems with incorporating the code.
00:27.01Cidanfor?
00:27.08CidanBliz will never use your code
00:27.52alestaneOf course they won't.
00:28.43alestane(not sarcasm, I've tried to submit things unsolicited before to places before.)
00:29.32alestaneBut I granted license to them anyway just in case. Their lawyers will probably still tell them they have to reinvent it somehow.
00:30.30Kaydeethreethey've implemented code from the community before. aren't most of the securestateheader's tem's work?
00:30.37alestaneIriel.
00:30.42Kaydeethrees/er's/ers/
00:31.11alestaneContributed with permission, so I granted them exclusive reuse permission at the top of the pasty.
00:31.54alestaneI should probably post it in add-on form anyway to encourage testing.
00:32.54art3mishrm wtf is wrong with cart1
00:33.03Mr_Rabies2wow, that last av i was in actually had some tactics going on
00:33.12art3misit doesnt do any of the goodness like faded map smaller size etc
00:33.13Mr_Rabies2we split our forces on o and d and kciked ass
00:33.20Mr_Rabies2i love when that happens :o
00:38.10Kaydeethreecompile faster, damn you
00:41.10foxlit"The COMMUNIST COMMUNISM COMMUNITY PARTY!!! (always in capitals) is a political party and movement inspired by the writings of Linus Torvalds. "
00:41.16foxlit[http://uncyclopedia.org/wiki/CCCP]
00:41.28Kaydeethreeuncyclopedia <3
00:41.43foxlitTime to disrupt someone's day while sleeping
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00:57.23art3mishttp://www.mmowned.com/forums/wow-exploits/52200-hellfire-ramps-last-boss-exploit.html
00:59.05alestaneThat will probably get coded out.
01:00.25art3miseeeeeeeeeeeeeee
01:00.52art3misheh i ask my wife if is the spaghetti is almost done
01:01.02art3misher response "i just have to put the pasta in"
01:01.44Cidanlulz
01:01.50art3misat this point we made the sauce a few days ago when we had italian meatballs so i know that art was finished
01:01.51JoshBorkeso she hasn't started? o.O
01:02.23art3mispart
01:02.23art3misshes so special somedays ;)
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02:34.35SixenKD3, you here? Or anyone that uses Linux?
02:34.43KaydeethreeI'm on
02:35.01Sixenah, Mind helping me out a sec?
02:35.06Kaydeethreewhat's up?
02:35.19SixenHow do i view all of the dot directories in /home/?
02:35.26Cidanls -a
02:35.26Kaydeethreels -a
02:35.57SixenIs there anyway to do it in the file browser? ;)
02:36.16Kaydeethreenautilus? konqueror?
02:36.22SixenNautilus.
02:36.42Kaydeethreectrl+h
02:36.49Kaydeethreeor: view->show hidden files
02:36.50Sixenrofl
02:36.52SixenThat works.
02:36.56Sixenthought I had hidden files shown
02:37.22Cidanit's funny how the first thing we do is say the CLI way of doing it
02:37.22Cidan:P
02:37.26Sixen:P
02:37.46SixenLast question.. If I wanted to install something, what would the equivalent of Windows' Program Files be?
02:38.03SixenI installed pidgin on the damn desktop, so I can't move the source without reinstalling it, :(.
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02:38.35SixenShould I just create my own .Directories in home for new program?
02:39.18Kaydeethreedepends on the distro. fedora users can run `system-config-packages`
02:39.33Kaydeethreeif you run a program, it'll create the ~/.directories as necessary
02:40.04Kaydeethreeyou can create if you need to, but unless your permissions are busted the program will save it's per-user settings the first time you run it
02:40.05SixenAh
02:40.15Kaydeethrees/it's/its/
02:40.18SixenLooks like I need to reinstall it there then.
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02:40.52SixenHow to uninstall programs on linux? :(
02:40.58Valaronrm -rf
02:40.59CidanDepends
02:41.00Kaydeethreewhich distro do you use?
02:41.01Cidanyeah really
02:41.02Cidanlol
02:41.20ValaronIt's not like it writes to the Registry.
02:41.29SixenUbuntu
02:41.30CidanBut a lot install libs
02:41.36ValaronBah
02:41.43Cidanapt-get remove --purge <package name>
02:41.52SixenKay.
02:41.57SixenBe back in a bit, reinstalling pidgin.,
02:42.05KaydeethreeI don't remember exactly how ubuntu sets it up, it should be somewhere obvious in the gnome menu, though
02:42.06Cidannever
02:42.09Cidanever
02:42.12Cidaninstall from source
02:42.13Sixeno_O
02:42.15Esamynn|afkValaron: you forgot a symbol, that should be rm -rf / ;)
02:42.16SixenI have to
02:42.16Cidanif you can't help it
02:42.24CidanNo, you can likely find a package
02:42.29Cidanapt-cache search <name>
02:42.30ValaronEek! You're so dangerous, Esamynn|afk
02:42.30SixenThere's nothing for Ubuntu with Pidgin, :/.
02:42.41Kaydeethreethere has to be, it'd be in universe if anywhere
02:42.44CidanYesh there is, make sure you have multiverse checked.
02:43.12Sixennothing comes up
02:43.18Cidanopen a command line
02:43.20Cidanapt-get update
02:43.26Cidanapt-cache search pidgin
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02:44.00Cidanhuh, damn, maybe you're right
02:44.05Sixen:/
02:44.14ValaronIt's probably because of Ubuntu that libraries are all over the place.
02:44.23SixenHmph.
02:44.26ValaronOr Fedora.
02:44.28CidanDo a google for .deb pidgin
02:44.29SixenMaybe I should just get Fedora, -_-;.
02:44.45CidanOr you can just stick with plain debian, :P
02:44.50ValaronI use Slackware... but then I compile 99% of my own software.
02:45.03CidanI used to, but I really don't have time to compile anymore
02:45.06ValaronPidgin has source!
02:45.11CidanI just want a system that works.
02:45.12SixenYeah
02:45.29Valaron./configure --prefix=/opt/pidgin :)
02:45.31SixenI can only find 2.0.1
02:45.33Kaydeethreeit's showing up in gutsy, are you using feisty?
02:45.35SixenLatest is 2.2.1
02:45.40Valaronhttp://www.pidgin.im/download/source/
02:45.41CidanI am
02:45.44Cidanand it's not showing up
02:45.50Cidanis Gusty stable enough to upgrade to?
02:46.04Kaydeethreecouldn't tell you
02:46.26Kaydeethreehttp://packages.ubuntu.com/gutsy/net/pidgin
02:47.07Sixen=o
02:47.25SixenWell, I should probably reinstall this
02:47.29SixenSo I can get it off my desktop
02:47.46SixenOnly way to install it is off source
02:48.02CidanJust use the gusty package
02:48.03ValaronSo.. I'm re-installing WoW on my second computer. My primary is screwed.
02:48.26SixenMeh
02:48.30SixenI'll mess with it later i guess.
02:48.34Sixenbrb on windows
02:48.34Sixen=]
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02:52.01CidanI think as soon as the nvidia driver bug is fixed, I'm going to start making a transition to linux
02:52.19Kaydeethreewhich nvidia driver bug?
02:52.27CidanMove a window == 100% CPU
02:52.51KaydeethreeI always thought that was just a function of X/the WM being stupid
02:52.58Cidaner, no.
02:53.14CidanOnly happens on 8800's, or it should.
02:58.36Cidan... and a bright ball of light appears!
02:59.07Kaydeethreethe light, it burnssssss us
02:59.46TemKaydeethree, my work was on the unit watch system and the macro parser
02:59.55TemIriel did the state header
03:00.02Kaydeethreeah
03:00.10Temthough I added a feature at some point
03:00.20Tem(<20 lines)
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03:05.01ValaronBah.. it's only 8pm, and I'm sleepy.
03:06.07ValaronI'll go play Zelda Phantom Hourglass.
03:06.11Nom-hehe "snackwell"
03:06.14Nom-I like
03:06.27KaydeethreeI'm still pushing for "Conjured Vending Machine"
03:07.02TemValaron, blow on the microphone to get the dust off the map
03:07.15ValaronHaha.. I'm pass that point.
03:08.35ValaronI got all three pixies. Now to open up the 3rd part of the ocean map.
03:08.45Cidanshhh
03:13.14TemI don't even have a DS
03:13.37Temmy coworker was playing it the other day and when I saw him blowing on his DS I was like "wft mate?"
03:13.41Temso he explained
03:16.04Thunder_Childhmm...i just realized the adverts on the right side of the screen in gmail read your email to display targeted adds
03:16.15Cidanyep
03:16.38Thunder_Childdoesnt break invasion of privacy or anything?
03:16.50CidanNo?
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03:17.19Thunder_Childi dont know, thats why i was aking
03:17.24Thunder_Childerr..asking
03:19.15Nom-WOW
03:19.21CidanYes
03:19.23CidanIt's a good game.
03:19.23Nom-Apparently 5.9KBps is fast for a corporate VPN
03:19.32Nom-*sigh*
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03:28.42Thunder_Childvery smooth http://gizmodo.com/gadgets/honda/honda-cr+z-hybrid-concept-car-too-awesome-to-be-a-honda-308956.php
03:32.47TemThunder_Child, that looks spiffy
03:33.20Thunder_Childexcept for the spedometer area..seems a little skimpy on the tech
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03:45.31ValaronIn Zelda Phantom Hourglass, you have to blow and also scream into the mic.
03:46.48Nom-omg
03:46.58Nom-the 0.9999 ~= 1 thread is still going
03:47.02Tem><
03:47.09Nom-305 pages
03:47.14Nom-WHEN WILL THE HURTING STOP?!?!!
03:49.52Thunder_Childwhen the stupid people die..or loose their fingers
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03:53.31cogwheelanyone know of a goof, dree file explorer for windows? Specifically I'm looking for something that can show me folder size information in a tree view.
03:54.07cogwheels/f, d/d, f/
03:56.06Thunder_Childyou mean like
03:56.15Thunder_Child<bla>(54mb)
03:56.56Nom-lern2explorer ?
03:57.05Thunder_Childit cant afaik
03:58.17Nom-If this VPN connection was any slower, i'd be sending what i wanted from the network to it
03:59.10Thunder_Childcogwheel, http://www.explorerxp.com/index.html is the closest i have found
03:59.32Shirikcogwheel: explorer?
03:59.42Shirikwhat kind of question is that ><
03:59.54Thunder_ChildShirik, explorer wont do that
03:59.59Shirikuh
04:00.00Shirikwhy not?
04:00.08Thunder_Childi dunno, go ask microsoft
04:00.11Wobworkhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7b6zCPPoHZk
04:00.13Wobwork^^
04:00.16cogwheelit's too dumbed down
04:00.37Wobwork"THE AUSTRALIANS!"
04:00.43Thunder_Childhttp://sourceforge.net/projects/foldersize
04:00.49Thunder_Childbut it's not quite in the tree view
04:01.28cogwheeli'm checking out windirstat right now...
04:02.04Thunder_Childcogwheel, first one should be it http://www.jam-software.com/freeware/index.shtml
04:02.27Nom-What time is it in Blizztime ?
04:02.34Nom-They already knocked off for the day?
04:02.34Thunder_Child9:02
04:02.40Thunder_Childprolly
04:02.56Nom-blah, no 2.3 PTR then :~(
04:03.10cogwheelwoah... windirstat is cool
04:03.22KaydeethreeI'd be surprised if the PTR went up before thursday
04:03.25cogwheelbut Thunder_Child wins the "does exactly what he asked for" award
04:03.31kergothcogwheel: i use jDiskReport for size info myself
04:03.33Thunder_Childdamn i'm good
04:03.37Thunder_Child^^
04:03.56Shirikimo windows+e is good enough ><
04:04.10Shiriklook at all these fancy programs you need to see file contents
04:04.23Shirikwhat happened to the good old days of "dir /s C:\Windows"
04:04.40kergothShirik: he's looking for a graphical equivalent of 'du', not a dumb explorer app.
04:05.03ShirikThunder_Child gave him an explorer app :)
04:05.14Thunder_Childi gave many things
04:05.27cogwheelShirik: have you ever tried navigating a directory tree trying to find the folder taking up the most space?
04:05.33Shiriksure
04:05.36Shirikright click, hit properties
04:05.38Shirikhit ok
04:05.41Shirikright click the next one
04:05.42kergoththat's worthless.
04:05.42Shirikhit properties
04:05.45Shirikhit ok
04:06.03cogwheelShirik: exactly
04:06.07Shirik^^
04:06.08cogwheel90-100 times
04:06.11Shirikyou know I'm just giving you a hard time :)
04:06.24Shirik"Back in my day, we didn't have these newfangled meeses"
04:06.25cogwheels/Shirik/Thunder_Child/
04:06.49Thunder_Childeh...what did i do?
04:06.54Shirik"We had to count the little holes to determine how big our programs was!"
04:07.28Shirikkergoth: Why do you say it's worthless?
04:07.39cogwheelShirik: yeah, but back in the day, text commands gave you the info you needed. They were basic tools of the operating system. And that's exactly my complaint... Explorer has been dumbed down from a the dir command
04:08.32Shirikkergoth: Seems to work for me :) http://images.gammatester.com/pics/bc8ac765fc3a312c0e87dedb4611c297.jpg
04:08.36ShirikYes, I do agree
04:08.50Shiriktrying to make things user-proof has sadly dropped functionality in many areas
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04:09.10cogwheelThunder_Child: you're usually the one to arbitrarily give people hard times :P
04:09.33Thunder_Childya, but i wasn enveloped in a warm glow...so i let Shirik cover for me
04:09.39Thunder_Childwas*
04:09.42cogwheelgtg
04:10.44Thunder_Childyou know....californication has more boobs in it than most pornos
04:10.56Thunder_Childleast ep1 did
04:14.53Kaydeethreehttp://www.oomsa.com/node/515 win
04:15.39SixenI lol'd.
04:18.49Nom-That's nothing, Shirik
04:18.57Shirik?
04:19.58Nom-53MB of addons
04:20.19Shirikoh
04:20.23Nom-I have 46MB without externals (i think that's the right way around)
04:20.23Shirikyeah I don't think I have much
04:20.27Shirikmost of that is actually duplicated
04:20.32Shirikseveral zips in there, etc.
04:20.43Nom-So I have very few duplicate libraries
04:20.47KaydeethreeAddons]$ du -hs .
04:20.47Kaydeethree107M    .
04:21.00Shirikthen we have my SVN folders
04:21.14Nom-/media/sdc2/Games/World of Warcraft/Interface/Addons$ ls | grep -v Blizzard  | wc -l
04:21.18Nom-292
04:22.13ShirikI should install cygwin
04:22.19ShirikNeed wc >.>
04:22.29Nom-amen :)
04:22.40Nom-I write scary one-liners in Linux
04:22.51Nom-there was one the other day which was something like
04:23.06ShirikROFL
04:23.18Shiriktoday's XKCD
04:23.20Shirikis awesome :)
04:23.26Nom-cat something.log | grep SomeError | cut -d' ' -f20 | grep -v SomeOtherMessage | cut -d, -f1 | sort | uniq -c
04:24.11Nom-oh, and i whacked a | wc -l on the end to find out how many distinct customers were affected by the error condition
04:24.14Nom-lol
04:24.19Kaydeethreelmfao
04:24.39Shirikdear god Nom-
04:24.43Shirikthat's... actually scary
04:24.52Kaydeethreepipe tricks are fun
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04:27.28Nom-it was surprisingly quick too
04:32.12Nom-When you work for a company like mine, you get used to writing dirty one-liners like that ;)
04:32.49Nom-"Quick, I need an estimated impact on issue #109882"... *tappity tap tap tap* "20k customers"
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04:49.59TemAnyone remember what gets set to change the show helm/cloak options?
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04:55.44Irieltem: it's just an API call
04:55.55IrielShowHelm/ShowCloak/ShowingHelm/ShowingCloak
04:55.56TemI found it in Options.lua
04:56.04TemShowHelp(false/true)
04:56.06TemHelm*
04:56.08Shirik|zZzthere's a CVar for it too iirc
04:56.12Shirik|zZzbut yeah that's the easiest way
04:56.14TemShirik|zZz, I couldn't find one
04:56.19Temat least, not in config.wtf
04:56.23IrielI dont think it's a cvar
04:56.26Irielit's server side
04:56.31Buuyommm, can you have a custom OnClick script for a secure action template such that the secure action template will still work like it's supposed to?
04:56.31Shirik|zZzhm
04:56.34Shirik|zZzI guess yeah it has to be server side
04:56.44Buuyosecure action button template*
04:57.00IrielBuuyo: No
04:57.10IrielYou can do PreClick/PostClick, or a secure hook of OnClick
04:57.15IrielBut you can't SET OnClick without tainting it
04:57.31Buuyohmm
04:57.34Shirik|zZzI can't think of a valid reason to secure hook OnClick
04:57.51art3miswow im having a brain dead day
04:57.53Shirik|zZzwouldn't it be identical to setting PostClick?
04:58.55art3misjust got around to installing tortise.. how to i create the initial directory and import my projects?
04:59.28Buuyoright click on the dir and tortoise -> import
04:59.49art3mishrm maybe i actually do need to reboot
04:59.49BuuyoI think you'll have to do an initial CO afterwords to get a WD tho.
04:59.54Shirik|zZzArcaia: No you don't
04:59.59Shirik|zZzart3mis*
05:00.04Shirik|zZzand yeah you need to do a checkout
05:00.08art3misits giving me an error on import
05:00.16Shirik|zZzI've never used import tbh
05:00.18Shirik|zZzever
05:00.32BuuyoWell, it's useful if you wrote code before svn mkdiring =p
05:00.43Shirik|zZztrue, but I've never done that :)
05:00.47Shirik|zZzand even still
05:00.48art3misokay so lets pretend ive got 3 directories on my machine..  and i wanna drag em into a svn directory so i can commit to the wowace repo
05:00.50Shirik|zZzyou can check out to the same folder
05:01.00art3misbuu: i have
05:01.22Shirik|zZzok, art3mis, your current svn directory, does it have anything in it?
05:01.36art3misnadda, not even attached to tsvn
05:01.42Shirik|zZzI mean
05:01.45Shirik|zZzserver-side
05:02.21art3misoh
05:02.21art3misthats the part i fergot ;P
05:02.21Shirik|zZz?
05:02.22art3misi havent done anything to get server copntents at all
05:02.30Shirik|zZzyes, that's what the checkout is fore
05:02.39art3misyeah fergot that part ;P
05:02.40kergothhttp://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/exploits_of_a_mom.png
05:02.49Shirik|zZzkergoth: slow man :P
05:02.55kergoth:P
05:03.02Shirik|zZzbut it's indeed awesome
05:03.17Shirik|zZzanyway, art3mis, if you're ok with overwriting with current server contents
05:03.19Shirik|zZzthen just do a checkout
05:03.20Buuyorofl
05:03.29BuuyoI wanted a kid named moon unit
05:03.35Buuyobut little bobby tables would be better =p
05:04.09buuart3mis: Have you now?
05:04.14art3misdoing it now
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05:06.31Thunder_Childwhat..having a baby?
05:06.58art3misk once thats done doing initial wowace checkout
05:07.03art3miserr
05:07.10art3misdoing initial wowace checkout
05:07.40art3miswhy doesnt cart1 seem to function right
05:07.50art3misfor some reason it always opens fullscreen
05:08.58Corrodiasprobably shouldn't be porn
05:09.20art3mishttp://metalinjection.net/blog/photos/Lacuna_Coil2.jpg <-- this
05:09.36art3misand then mail me yer psp
05:09.42art3miscuz i bricked mine ;P
05:09.54Corrodiasheheh
05:10.11Corrodiasthere's an "unbricker" utility, don't know much of anything about it, but you could take a look at it
05:10.45Corrodiashttp://www.consolespot.net/forums/showthread.php?t=772
05:10.45art3mishttp://community.godsandheroes.com/
05:10.54art3misi fucked my flash0
05:12.38art3misill give that a shot in a little bit though
05:12.47art3mismaybe it will work
05:12.55Corrodiassorry i can't give you any information about it
05:13.03Corrodiasi just glanced at it as i downloaded a theme
05:13.12art3misi trust dark alex
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05:13.24Corrodiashe seems quite well respected
05:13.27art3misif its possible to revive my flash doing this im gonna give it a shot
05:13.34art3misand amazingly talented
05:13.41art3mishis firmwarez are staggering
05:14.02art3misthanks for the link
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05:14.15Corrodiasnp
05:15.37Corrodiashmm, most of the images in my non-porn folder actually are porn, are highly suggestive, or are vulgar or gory in some way
05:15.44Nom-hurrah... got faster vpn
05:15.47Corrodiasor not at all suitable for a wallpaper
05:15.51Nom-now lets see how long it takes for my router to lock up :(
05:16.19Nom-Loving the NAT on this router though
05:16.28Nom-I've got a block of 4 IP's, and through DMZ I can use all of them
05:16.30art3mistomato?
05:18.30Corrodiasa drawing of steve irwin getting a blowjob from a stingray is not what i want for my wallpaper
05:19.32Cairennewwwww
05:19.47Cairennokay, that was NOT the moment to flip back to this channel
05:20.07Esamynnindeed, I am also regretting flipping back here
05:20.18Corrodiasflip!
05:20.32Esamynn~lart Corrodias
05:20.32purlslaps a compatible dib on Corrodias's head
05:30.10Thunder_Childlol Cairenn
05:31.39Nom-Crikey!
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05:40.21Mr_Rabies2<Corrodias> a drawing of steve irwin getting a blowjob from a stingray is not what i want for my wallpaper
05:40.22Mr_Rabies2why not
05:40.43Nom-That'd work awesome when you use ur laptop for a presentation
05:41.00Mr_Rabies2actually, he's also stabbing steve irwin in the heart if i recall during said fellatio
05:41.01Nom-"I'll just minimize this window and open the other presentation, OH SHIT"
05:41.14Mr_Rabies2hehehe
05:41.22Mr_Rabies2i do that to friends who leave their computers unlocked
05:41.32Nom-lol
05:41.33Mr_Rabies2change it to strange 4chan stuff or just random mspaints i draw up
05:41.34Nom-We do it @ work too
05:41.38Corrodiasdamn, i have got some good images
05:41.45CorrodiasMr_Rabies: ah, you've seen said image
05:41.50Mr_Rabies2yup
05:42.08Nom-Usually it's something less harsh though, like opening notepad and putting "I WILL NOT LEAVE MY COMPUTER UNLOCKED" in 72 px high font repeated enough times to fill the screen
05:42.36Mr_Rabies2sometimes i like to draw bizarre stuff in mspaint while they're away
05:42.39Nom-The guys who are really bored will then screenshot that notepad window, cut out the content and set it as the wallpaper :P
05:43.01Corrodiasi have to find a beautiful, colorful image for the wallpaper that doesn't have nipples
05:43.21Corrodiasand would look good with a certain aspect ratio portion cut out of it
05:43.29Nom-Corrodias: Cheezburgr?
05:48.05Nom-lol
05:48.22Nom-someone just posted something to our social list... "Biggest lineup to ever hit Perth"
05:48.34Nom-I looked through the list and didn't recognise any... they were DnB groups
05:49.38Thunder_Child..Frupert the nude apricot
05:50.36Thunder_Childname in CS
05:51.57Nom-lol
05:52.12Nom-cs is such a waste of time game
05:52.32Nom-i can't stand playing it for more tha a few minutes at a time
05:53.03Nom-that's probably why i can't stand playing wow pvp much either
05:53.20Thunder_Childofc it's a waste of time...but it's hella fun as well
05:53.27Nom-I prefer games where it's more about strategy, not who can do the most devistating combination of crits in a row
05:53.47Thunder_Childwell i play everything but sports
05:53.57Thunder_Childand childrens games
05:53.59Nom-I used to be an FPS gamer
05:54.26Nom-And I'm known to play some Battlefield now and again, but it's certainly not what interests me any more
05:55.17Nom-*ponder*
05:55.29Nom-should i go buy an 8600 GTS ? :P
05:55.45Corrodiasi have decided on an appropriately scaled-down version of this pic for the wallpaper, for the time being: http://corrodias.no-ip.org/non-porn/1172991947779.jpg
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05:56.42Nom-lol
05:56.44Nom-longcat ftw
05:58.04Cairennhttp://corrodias.no-ip.org/non-porn <== makes you guess that Corrodias has an entire on-line cat of porn pics too
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05:58.51Corrodiaswell, i have my folder for all my images, and they're categorized...
05:59.00Cairennas I said ...
06:01.39Cairennthe fact you have a folder full of porn pics isn't what I'm commenting on, it's the fact you've got them on-line ...
06:02.00Thunder_Childor at least fully avaliable
06:02.58Nom-http://corrodias.no-ip.org/non-porn/wow4twiw3ji1.gif <-- lol
06:03.15Nom-(It's an old one, so it's ok to laugh about it now)
06:03.37Corrodiasyeah... don't explore too much if you're easily-offended, by the way, but otherwise have fun
06:03.45ScytheBlade1Hahaha
06:03.47ScytheBlade1I remember that
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06:08.52krkalol @ todays xkcd
06:09.06Thunder_Child"You'll first have to create the non-epic, and then upgrade it to the epic version. I think we planned the mats to be around 500g in total once you complete the epic version, but I could be wrong on that. It's worth it though. I wish I had an engineer after getting to see it. Hands down, in my opinion, the best flying mount in the game."
06:09.20Thunder_ChildSource: Drysc
06:11.08the-golem*grumble*
06:13.07EsamynnThunder_Child: best mount, sure, but Flight Form is still the best way to travel ;)
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06:16.47art3mistailors should get to make gliders
06:16.53art3misthat would rock
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06:36.34BuuyoDoes the guy who did Omen care if someone modifies it and distributes it to his friends? I didn't see any license with it =o
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06:38.18Fisker-Buuyo it's LGPL
06:38.27BuuyoOh, well then it doesnt even matter
06:38.43BuuyoI couldn't see a license in it, so I was a bit concerned. =p
06:40.22krkaif there's no license, how do you know it's lgpl?
06:43.15Corrodiasbecause everything in the world defaults to lgpl. this is universal law. instututed by iGod.
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06:44.42Nom-http://corrodias.no-ip.org/non-porn/warlockmegatanktwo.jpg <-- wtf???
06:46.31Corrodiassome proof of concept from before TBC
06:47.01Corrodiasi have no idea what he was doing
06:47.37Nom-That's impressive, eh
06:47.47Nom-Better mitigation than a warrior @ that level
06:48.08Nom-I wonder if you can get close to that % of mitigation @ level 70
06:48.23Buuyowhat is this, non-porn directory without a porn directory =o
06:48.37BuuyoIt's a trap. You could totally put something there that owns people =p
06:48.45Nom-There's a few things...
06:48.49Nom-It's not all not porn :P
06:49.15Buuyoyar but you see corrodias.no-ip.org/porn/ could be used to trick someone =p
06:49.25BuuyoI tried it and was disappointed to see a 404 =p
06:50.16Corrodiasthat contains things i didn't save for their erotic value. typically amusing, impressive, artistic, or whatever
07:03.01Nom-lol
07:04.33Nom-Writing testing documentation is always boring
07:11.31Nom-hmm anyone know if the euro realms have already had maintenence done ?
07:11.40Nom-Probably would have :(
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07:31.24KarlKFIomg i love fightign aran as ret
07:37.28Corrodiaswhy's that?
07:44.20KarlKFIi had 955 dps
07:44.53KarlKFIno agro issues, i can just flat out dps and dont ever have to move till arcane explosion
07:45.04KarlKFIand he's undead for exorsicm
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07:51.49Nom-hah yeah it is good
07:52.00Nom-What AP and Crit, KarlKFI ?
07:52.31KarlKFI1572ap and 26.5 crit unbuffed
07:53.22Nom-Yeah, so that's around where I am right now
07:53.24KarlKFIi woulda topped 1k if the shammie had been using windfury
07:53.44Nom-One of my guildies has 2000 AP and 30% crit unbuffed :(
07:54.07KarlKFIret?
07:54.18KarlKFIdoes he have zero mana?
07:55.31Nom-6k
07:55.53KarlKFIdoes he have full t5 or something?
07:56.41KarlKFIi also have 215 spell dmg and  [Tome of Fiery Redemption] and [Hourglass of the Unraveller]
07:56.51KarlKFIand libram of zeal
07:56.56KarlKFIso, a couple procs
07:57.13KarlKFIand mongoose and Lionheart
08:00.05KarlKFIwith kings and might i have 2k ap
08:00.14KarlKFIand GotW
08:05.02Nom-nah full S2 glad i thik
08:05.48Nom-ah he lied
08:05.49lolinternetKarlKFI why you using libram of zeal?
08:05.52Nom-he has 2k after BoM
08:06.03lolinternetlibram of avengment increases your DPS more than libram of zeal
08:06.04KarlKFIi dont have the heroic bf one yet
08:06.36KarlKFIrun that shit so many times
08:06.38clad|sleepWhen you have an XML template with an <OnLoad> script defined.. can you override that in a frame that inherits from it?
08:06.46lolinternet!vs us kil'jaeden wraithhammer eu gul'dan ruknor
08:06.48KarlKFInever drops
08:06.49clad|sleepMy <OnLoad> isn't getting run, and I can't figure out why
08:06.51ThraeBotlolinternet: Wraithhammer vs Ruknor! Two 70 paladins square off!; 5/0/56 vs 0/8/53; Ruknor wins by 873 TBRs! ***OWNED!***
08:06.56lolinternetwoho
08:07.01KarlKFIlast i logged was holy
08:07.15KarlKFIer
08:07.18KarlKFIguess not
08:08.05Nom-!c Stormscale Shoudra
08:08.05lolinternethow much hitrating you have?
08:08.16Nom-argh teh bot is offline
08:08.22Nom-1682 unbuffed he has
08:08.45KarlKFI6.15% atm, but i can toss on more for a boss
08:09.16KarlKFIi have a lot so i never bother with the prot tallent
08:09.17sag_ich_nichtnot hit chance
08:09.24sag_ich_nichti wanna know hitrating
08:09.27sag_ich_nichtlemme check armory :X
08:09.33KarlKFI97
08:09.51sag_ich_nichtbastard
08:09.56KarlKFI?
08:10.10sag_ich_nichtyou're exactly at the hitcap with that
08:10.25KarlKFIthe pvp hitcap?
08:10.32sag_ich_nichtno, lvl 73 boss hitcap
08:10.46KarlKFIcoulda sworn hitcap was 7.25%
08:10.52sag_ich_nichtnah
08:10.56sag_ich_nichtbecause
08:11.00sag_ich_nichthuman racial!
08:11.03sag_ich_nicht+5 weaponskill!
08:11.09KarlKFIahha!
08:11.14KarlKFIgood to know!
08:11.24KarlKFIswords ftw
08:11.30sag_ich_nichtheh
08:11.38sag_ich_nichtdeep thunder ftw :P
08:11.48KarlKFInah, that's a pvp weapon
08:11.55KarlKFIlionheart for pve
08:12.49sag_ich_nichtheh
08:13.29sag_ich_nichtyou profit more from hasterating with deep thunder :P
08:15.56sag_ich_nichtbecause of higher mean weapondamage, of course you lose the +AP proc, but you get a slower weapon with that means "more" SoC procs that hit harder without such a AP proc, and our damage is bursty enough already imho
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08:16.10sag_ich_nicht(altho in the end, it doesn't really matter which one you use)
08:16.22KarlKFIfear resist!
08:16.36KarlKFIneeds to be 10% imo
08:16.39KarlKFIor 15
08:17.50sag_ich_nichtscrew fearresist 2.3 with 6 second CS is coming
08:18.57sag_ich_nichti prefer more HP, means i can run into the cleave to get mana from heals :P
08:19.23sag_ich_nicht(yes, i abuse our healers that way. so? :P)
08:19.23KarlKFIlol. str/agil for more dps
08:19.45sag_ich_nichtagi is gay. crit rating > agi
08:19.46KarlKFIi just chug mana pots
08:19.55KarlKFIagil is afected by kings
08:20.03sag_ich_nichti can't afford them
08:20.12sag_ich_nichtdodge is the devil and needs to DIAF
08:20.13KarlKFIand you think i can?
08:20.23KarlKFIi have 3 raidworthy sets of gear
08:20.28KarlKFIall enchanted and socketed
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08:24.37sag_ich_nichtLOL#
08:24.58sag_ich_nichtyou logged in pve ret gear fully raid buffed KarlKFI
08:25.05sag_ich_nichtyet
08:25.11sag_ich_nichti beat you :X
08:25.32KarlKFI!vs us kil'jaeden wraithhammer eu gul'dan ruknor
08:25.33ThraeBotKarlKFI: Wraithhammer vs Ruknor! Two 70 paladins square off!; 5/0/56 vs 0/8/53; Ruknor wins by 873 TBRs! ***OWNED!***
08:25.39KarlKFIlol
08:25.46KarlKFIbroken
08:26.05sag_ich_nichtnah, i just have more skill
08:26.06sag_ich_nicht:P
08:26.25KarlKFI=D i got my last 2 tank pieces from KZ
08:26.33KarlKFInow i can raid tank ssc and tk
08:26.51KarlKFIonly 2 blues
08:27.13KarlKFIoh i spose t4 helm would be better than mine
08:27.20KarlKFIor t5
08:27.46KarlKFItime to go broke gemmign my [Panzar'Thar Breastplate]
08:28.10sag_ich_nichtoh fuck you i'm still not uncritable when i'm respeccing, and don't even ask about uncrushable
08:28.27KarlKFI:P
08:28.31sag_ich_nicht(i can tank all non-heroic instances with the gear tho, while specced ret :P)
08:28.33KarlKFIhow's your heal gear?
08:28.52sag_ich_nichtmy helm is green. one of my trinkets too. that is all i will say.
08:29.00KarlKFIheh
08:29.12art3misif i have an image and i wanna make the highlight image overlap and show on top what blend mode do i use?
08:29.15KarlKFIi have 0-2 blues in all 3 sets
08:29.16sag_ich_nichtshut up you got you initial gear as holy, i've been ret since lvl 41 :P
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08:30.27Cairennmess with semi-transparency
08:30.46sag_ich_nichtblending is the devil.
08:30.50sag_ich_nichtseriously.
08:31.07Cairennmaking the highlight image semi-transparent will be a lot easier
08:31.36sag_ich_nichti will kill who ever wrote the blending module for winamp's advanced visualisation studio
08:31.51KarlKFIblend mode is ADD i think
08:32.28art3misyeah add on highlight doesnt overlay the original image
08:32.45art3mistrans works decent enough though
08:33.15Cairenntold ya :p
08:33.36art3misheh did up like 5 new cycircleds ;P
08:33.48Cairennoy, and I helped you why?!?!
08:34.20art3mispanda with blinky eyes, chococat with blinky eyes, pirate ship steering wheel, smurf hat(switches between white and red on highlight)
08:34.29Cairennoh crap
08:35.02sag_ich_nichtKarlKFI: tank tidewalker(and i mean tidewalker, not the adds) and give me a video. please. our druid tank won't shut up otherwise :X
08:35.27KarlKFIdunno if i have enough hp for that
08:35.33KarlKFIhe his REALLY hard
08:35.36sag_ich_nichtwell GET MORE
08:35.37KarlKFIhits*
08:35.41KarlKFIi am
08:35.50KarlKFIi just put 3 solid stars in my chest
08:35.55sag_ich_nichti need her to shut up about this :X
08:35.56KarlKFIand im gettign 150 enchant
08:36.14KarlKFIdruid or war is a better tank for that
08:36.30sag_ich_nichtno. druid yes. war no.
08:36.30KarlKFIour warrior had 200k hp when we did vashj on monday
08:36.41KarlKFIer
08:36.43KarlKFI20k
08:36.45sag_ich_nichtKarlKFI: wouldn't +6 scale more with kings and the talents than +150?
08:36.55KarlKFIhmmm
08:37.07KarlKFI+6 is only 60hp
08:37.14KarlKFI66 with kings
08:37.33sag_ich_nichthm
08:37.38KarlKFIyes the other stats are nice, but it's a much better ret enchant where you actually use every stat
08:37.53sag_ich_nichthow much +stamina from the talent is it?
08:37.58sag_ich_nicht+6%?
08:38.02KarlKFIwhich tallent
08:38.08sag_ich_nichtimp. div. shield
08:38.10KarlKFIimp fury?
08:38.13KarlKFIoh
08:38.22KarlKFIdunno on an alt atm
08:39.05sag_ich_nichti think it might scale better than +150, but only if you already have a fuckton of stamina
08:39.15KarlKFIi need more
08:39.15sag_ich_nicht(never going to happen, lol)
08:39.37sag_ich_nichtthey need to increase our base hp
08:40.04KarlKFIeh, just buff the tallent
08:40.14sag_ich_nichtor that
08:40.22sag_ich_nichtbut i'd be for more base HP.
08:40.23Cairennwell, hell with this, I can't stay awake any longer - night guys
08:40.27sag_ich_nichtsame as warrior base HP
08:40.32sag_ich_nichtnight Cairenn|afk
08:40.40bleetergnight Cairenn|afk
08:40.42sag_ich_nicht(stupid tabcomplete)
08:40.52sag_ich_nichtbleeter jump!
08:41.03Wobin*blip*
08:41.26KarlKFIwhere do major healign pots drop?
08:41.35KarlKFIis there a good place to purchase them?
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08:42.01sag_ich_nichtKarlKFI: alchimist.
08:42.04sag_ich_nichtenjoy your goldloss.
08:42.17sag_ich_nichtbut you could respec prot and farm strath for 300g/hour
08:42.21KarlKFIi'm sure there's a vendor that has a limited supply
08:42.25sag_ich_nicht(sssssh, that has to stay our little secret)
08:42.27KarlKFIno i cant
08:42.34KarlKFInot an enchanter
08:42.44sag_ich_nichtokay so it's on 150g/hour
08:42.52sag_ich_nicht*only
08:43.05KarlKFIfirst time i tried i broke even from dyign so many times
08:43.12bleeterKarlKFI: there's four vendors, I think
08:44.19sag_ich_nichtKarlKFI: you need more reflective damage and the trinket from SH endboss then
08:44.25bleeteradmittedly, I've only ever visited two, iirc
08:44.30sag_ich_nichtdedicated farming gear with tons of +block
08:44.33KarlKFIhttp://www.wowhead.com/?item=13446#sold-by
08:44.45KarlKFIblades edge mt guy sells um
08:44.51bleeterKarlKFI: indeed
08:45.03bleeterKarlKFI: I was looking @ thott thinking ... nah, that ain't right ;)
08:45.21KarlKFInetherstorm too, is suprising
08:45.38KarlKFIthe AQ guy requires you to beat the event tho..
08:45.54bleeterconsortium have some odd limited sales
08:46.03bleetertend to be for crafting stuff, it'd seem
08:46.09sag_ich_nichti should powerlevel fishing and cooking now that they bugfixed it.
08:46.22KarlKFIi love that a guy in netherstorm sells super pots
08:46.35KarlKFIoh yes the fishing is nice now
08:46.46KarlKFIand the line shows up every recast
08:46.59bleetergut in netherstorm sells some engi stuff, too, so there's an addition to that guy in A52
08:47.02KarlKFIyou used to have to move or onyl the bobber would show
08:47.10bleeternice quick extra profit on the AH
08:47.14KarlKFIya
08:47.23KarlKFIesp since my world server just went down
08:47.31bleeterbum :(
08:47.32KarlKFIprolly had to reboot
08:47.42KarlKFIso all the imiteds are prolly back
08:47.50KarlKFIlimiteds*
08:48.31bleeterdoes that still 'work' like that? I seem to recall I camped an NPC waiting for a recipe on a scheduled reboot, it didn't appear. I assumed there was a reboot vs reset case.
08:48.36sag_ich_nicht[10:47] <KarlKFI> you used to have to move or onyl the bobber would show <--never had that, must have been a limited systems specific bug
08:48.38bleeterwas some time ago, I admit
08:49.08sag_ich_nichtbleeter: server reboot != maintanence
08:49.24sag_ich_nichtsometimes the reboot them to apply a script bugfix, and don't reset the NPC cache
08:49.27sag_ich_nicht*they
08:49.42KarlKFIpretty sure this was jsut a crash
08:49.48sag_ich_nichtor that
08:49.55sag_ich_nichtmine crashed sunday
08:50.06KarlKFIdoh, the guy in blades edge is ina  horde town
08:50.22sag_ich_nichtand yeah does't reset on crash either(actually, does, but only in case the crash is NPC related)
08:51.06dieckbleeter: I think I heard they added some random time to recipe respawns and such, so that it can't be camped. Just like they did randomize the Emerald Dragon respawn pre-bc, when they were camped because the guilds know when they would respawn
08:51.44bleetersag_ich_nicht: yes, I know reboot != maint, that's what I was trying to allude to in my statement
08:51.58sag_ich_nichtpartially correct, there is still a fixed respawn timer, but the item respawned is random
08:53.15KarlKFIoo this guys sells Major Arcane Protection Potion and Major Shadow Protection Potion too
08:53.27KarlKFIand both kidns of pots
08:53.29sag_ich_nicht...not.
08:53.32KarlKFIsuper and major
08:53.39sag_ich_nichtlol flask of blinding light.
08:53.43sag_ich_nichtlol flask of pure death.
08:53.46sag_ich_nichtoh wait
08:53.49sag_ich_nichtyou said potion
08:53.51sag_ich_nichti read flask
08:53.53sag_ich_nichtmy bad
08:53.54sag_ich_nicht:X
08:54.24KarlKFIwoot! nothign on him but 2 of the majors i needed
08:57.27Nom-lol damn
08:57.39Nom-there was two new vid cards i was looking at getting
08:58.02Nom-turns out my brother just upgraded his video card, and the one he replaced ranks in the middle between the two cards i was looking at
08:58.08Nom-So he's just going to give me that card lol
08:58.25Nom-yay upgrades!
08:58.51KarlKFI=D my chest has 1020 hp on it and my pants have 1140
08:59.03bleeteryay FREE upgrades ... or yay FREE punch on brother's nose! :D
09:00.12Nom-now do i go buy a new HDD with the money i'm now not spending on a video card :D
09:00.14sag_ich_nichtKarlKFI well that's great.
09:00.34KarlKFInom: yes, and raid them
09:01.10Nom-meh, the only problem is
09:01.26Nom-i don't want to do raid 0
09:01.37Nom-so i'd be looking @ raid 5, which means $$$
09:01.38KarlKFIdo raid1
09:02.25sag_ich_nicht"
09:02.25sag_ich_nichtThese kinds of protections were necessary so as to not promote the creation and activation of large numbers of Hyjal instances, which could lead to performance problems for the server.
09:02.25sag_ich_nicht"
09:02.35sag_ich_nichtaka "our servers were never built to handle more than 1 raid in hyjal at the same time holy shit what are we going to do jesus christ"
09:02.50Nom-wtf?
09:02.53Nom-in reference to what ?
09:02.55art3mishttp://www.gothi.ca/Stuff/cycircled-art.jpg  <-- the collection (without highlights shown)
09:03.16art3misall upped to wowi(waiting on the pending flag going away ;) and wowace
09:03.30sag_ich_nichtNom-: some anti rep from trash farming safteys put in place in hyjal
09:04.00KarlKFIoh god kitties
09:04.23bleeterKarlKFI: have you missed/not heard of the 'legendary' HKUI?
09:04.36KarlKFIi have
09:05.10Nom-oh yeah
09:05.22Nom-the whole if you don't kill all the pull the next pull won't have rep
09:06.29art3misKarlKFI: thers a hello(kitty)ween edition of HKUI now ;)
09:06.40KarlKFI>.<
09:07.04Kalrothlol
09:07.08Nom-bleh
09:07.23KarlKFISacred Duty is +6% stam
09:07.28Nom-without spending $500 on a controller card, RAID-0, RAID-1 or JBOD are the only options you got
09:07.54sag_ich_nicht^^
09:07.56Nom-meh i guess i'll just get nothing for now
09:07.58sag_ich_nichtheh
09:08.00sag_ich_nichtBS
09:08.04Arrowmasterumm i can get a raid-5 controller for less than $100
09:08.05sag_ich_nichtRAID 1+0
09:08.14sag_ich_nichtArrowmaster: a shitty one, that is
09:08.16sag_ich_nichtanyway
09:08.26KarlKFIthere's a nice apple raid controller now for mac pro's
09:08.31Nom-RAID 10 is just stupid for my purposes
09:08.34KarlKFIraid all 4 drives
09:08.34sag_ich_nichtget RAID 1+0, unless your raidcontroller is a bitch, in which case, RAID 0+1
09:08.44sag_ich_nichtKarlKFI: i'll raid your mom
09:08.52KarlKFI25man?
09:08.56Arrowmasteri dislike 1+0/0+1 too
09:08.58sag_ich_nichtnu-uh
09:08.59sag_ich_nicht40 man
09:09.02Nom-Mirroring is absolutely pointless for a home purpose... you lose too much disk space
09:09.03Arrowmastersuch a waste
09:09.04sag_ich_nichtold school.
09:09.10Nom-So RAID 5 is the only one i would consider
09:09.36Nom-I currently use RAID 1 on a pair of 120GB drives, but that's so prone to failure
09:09.39sag_ich_nicht[11:09] <Nom-> Mirroring is absolutely pointless for a home purpose... you lose too much disk space <--maybe for you
09:09.49sag_ich_nichtmirroring saved my data already once :P
09:09.51sag_ich_nichtso there :P
09:09.51nevcairielRAID 5 is only viable if you have a expensive controller
09:09.59Arrowmasterno
09:10.00sag_ich_nichtwhat nevcairiel said
09:10.00Nom-sag_ich_nicht: RAID-5 is much more sensible for it
09:10.01nevcairielif you get a cheap one, its fucking slow
09:10.06Arrowmasterlots of controllers do raid5 now
09:10.10nevcairielsure
09:10.14nevcairielbut look at speedz
09:10.21Nom-sag_ich_nicht: Buy 3+ drives and you only lose the space of one in parity
09:10.24Arrowmastermost arent true hardware controlers anyway
09:10.37nevcairielwrite speed is teh suck on cheap controllers
09:10.53Nom-Performance isn't as much of a concern
09:11.05nevcairieli am running a raid 5 on a ICH9R southbridge controller right now, its so damn slow
09:11.06Arrowmasterill probably use a software solution for my next server since i want a large array but the controlers are too expensive
09:11.09Nom-It's more important, for me, to have a disk which is less prone to failure
09:11.13nevcairieli'll change it to 1+0 at some point
09:11.25Nom-nevcairiel: Because it's fakeraid, it's not real RAID 5
09:11.47Arrowmasteryeah if its onboard its using your cpu
09:11.52Arrowmastermeaning not true hardware raid
09:11.54Nom-Arrowmaster: They're often motherboard dependant... if your mobo fails, you lose the array
09:12.05nevcairielmy cpu should be able to handle that load
09:12.08nevcairielthats not the issue
09:12.10nevcairielits just slow
09:12.23Arrowmasternah ive heard the ICH controlers are perty good about being able to move arrays between them
09:12.24Nom-nevcairiel: fakeraid is always slow
09:12.41bleeter'onboard' raid controllers always make me shudder
09:13.08Nom-Nah, if i'm going to build a new raid array on my computer, it'll be done the right way
09:13.24nevcairieli wanted to try the performance of the new intel controller, reading and access time is pretty good
09:13.26Nom-And I won't bother for less than 1TB useable space
09:13.27nevcairielbut writing sucks
09:14.06bleeterlol I feel old
09:14.06Arrowmaster1TB is so small
09:14.19Nom-when i can afford it, i'll be looking @ a 4-channel RAID controller and at least 3 750GB drives
09:14.23bleeter'anything above 10GB is to be raided'
09:14.28Arrowmasterpeople laughed at me back in 2004 when i had 1TB in my desktop
09:14.57Nom-I tend to burn a lot of stuff to DVD
09:15.06Arrowmasteri hate optical media
09:15.17Nom-I don't mind it, that's why I tend to burn a lot of stuff :P
09:18.26Nom-I should at least go down and buy some more DVD Media
09:18.28Nom-I've run out
09:18.29Nom-So BRB :)
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10:25.37sag_ich_nichtquestion
10:25.42bleeteranswer
10:25.50sag_ich_nichthaha metahumor.
10:25.55sag_ich_nichtcan you dodge/parry/block/avoid while casting?
10:26.06wereHamsteryes
10:26.16wereHamsterdodge
10:26.36sag_ich_nichtno parry no block?
10:27.36wereHamsterI've never seen that
10:27.54sag_ich_nicht(in before "but otoh i play a druid")
10:44.23KasoI love the way half of my lectures are litterally in the same building as i live in this year
10:44.34Kasomeans i can get up at 8:55 for my 9:00 lectures!
10:46.33bleeteroO dark irons have run away?
10:46.46bleeteror is this only in EU? http://forums.wow-europe.com/thread.html?topicId=1119142107&sid=1&pageNo=20#381
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11:10.14zenzioso I'm sitting here at work, halfway through my second week here, and all of a sudden I'm alone o_O
11:11.12Maldiviableeter: also US
11:12.15bleeterMaldivia: bummer :(
11:12.58bleeterI guess it's a load thing no amount of testing on PTR will really create, unless a group of folks do a bucket of multiboxing
11:13.28bleeterwas the only thing I was really looking forward to
11:13.50bleeterI'll just have to wait for the flying broom mount now... then it's engi mount time... right in the middle of exams :/
11:13.55bleeter*prolly right...
11:14.43Maldiviatoo bad the flying mount isn't permanent like the goggles :|
11:15.35Maldiviaohh, and speaking of engineering mount... seen the dark legacy comic ?
11:16.27bleeteryeah, the singular use thing will suck a bit... go get it... go to outlands.. use it... go back.. get another :)
11:16.30bleeternah
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11:17.12Maldiviait's not singular use, it lasts 2 weeks (or 1, can't remember)
11:17.25bleeteroh, my bad then
11:20.00zenzioman, archive.org is slow but quite useful
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11:39.08WobinAntiarc: How much threat do the potions reduce by?
11:39.16sag_ich_nichtbleeter: blizzards bad actually, the tooltip is wrong
11:39.20AntiarcShrouding? 900ish?
11:39.23sag_ich_nichtuh
11:39.29sag_ich_nichtcheck on thottbot
11:39.33sag_ich_nichtthey datamined the effect :P
11:39.42sag_ich_nicht(you can check on wowhead too, but wowhead smells for that kind of stuff)
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11:54.51Wobin800 according to wowhead
11:56.56mikmahere you go folks http://birdloversonly.blogspot.com/2007/09/may-i-have-this-dance.html
11:58.06Olisonrofl mikma
11:59.39mikmawho likes Jonny Fairplay? well this guy doesn't: http://www.brightcove.tv/title.jsp?title=1213872318
12:04.24KasoI havent a clue who he is
12:05.23Kasosag_ich_nicht  this is a an hour late, but i know paladins can block whilst casting that was fixed recently, i assume it is also true for parry but i havent seen so im not sure
12:06.44KasoActually wait no
12:06.59KasoThey can block whilst casting instants, im not sure for full cast-time spells
12:07.27Kasonot sure sorry
12:07.39mikmaKaso: if you don't know who he is, you're safe.
12:10.42sag_ich_nichtKaso: the question was about full cast time :X
12:11.16KasoLogic would assume no, seeing as your hands are too busy to hold shields/weapons, but i cant say for sure sorry :<
12:11.40KasoGet a paladin to aggro 10 mobs and see whats happens whilst he chain-heals himself.
12:18.36sag_ich_nichtmy main is a paladin :P
12:18.40sag_ich_nichtbut i can't check atm
12:21.03cncfanaticsu can't block with casted spells, only instants
12:21.10cncfanaticsKaso, the pala will get pawned in that case :p
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12:21.50sag_ich_nichtwell damn.
12:22.06cncfanaticsit'd be too easy on bosses
12:22.11cncfanaticsspam all ur cooldown tanking skills
12:22.14sag_ich_nichtthey should change that, then we can talk about that tankhealer argument by jeffry :X
12:22.16cncfanaticsand when they're all on cd start healing
12:22.30cncfanaticstankhealer arguments have always been total shit
12:22.40cncfanaticsu don't have enough mana to spamheal anyway, and even if u did u'd lose aggro
12:22.41sag_ich_nicht(note to any blizzard lurkers: THIS IS NOT SERIOUS LEAVE IT ALONE)
12:22.41sag_ich_nicht:P
12:22.54cncfanatics:p
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12:29.18Wobinoh ffs
12:29.35WobinWe had lurker at 3%
12:29.38WobinAnd the fish respawned
12:29.46Wobinand we wiped at 0.05%
12:30.39cncfanaticsowned by lurker ? :p
12:30.44Wobinyeah
12:30.45cryogeni hate that
12:33.25KasoI wish i had a unitframe that could show 1/20ths of a percent!
12:34.07cryogenyeah that would actually be kinda cool
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12:46.16Kasowhat's a good windows equivilent for gtkpod ?
12:47.02wereHamsterwhy would you use something else?
12:47.15Kasosomething else than gtkpod?
12:47.22KasoCos im not using linux
12:47.45KasoSomething else than itunes?, cos its being a bitch and not recognising my ipod proplery
12:48.01wereHamsteriTunes then
12:48.10wereHamster.. -.-
12:48.48Kasomy ipod is plugged in, i can access it through explorer
12:48.53Kasoitunes isnt having any of it though
12:49.19wereHamstergo complain to apple ;)
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12:56.55Wobin!c us argent dawn norse
12:56.57ThraeBotWobin: Norse, Level 70 Night Elf Warrior (0/0/61). 10764 HP; 11849 Armour; 1064 AP; 141.400 Melee DPS; 7.62% melee crit; 10 melee hit; 263 defense; 13.44% dodge; 15.24% block; 35 resilience; 10 nature resist (+10);[[ TBR: 1418 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/28e26y ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/2tlb9p ][ Updated: Wed Oct 10 08:58:26 2007 EST ]]
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12:58.48Wobin!c us argent dawn pisk
12:58.50ThraeBotWobin: Pisk, Level 70 Night Elf Druid (4/0/57). 7714 HP; 8945 Mana; 344 mana regen; 102 mp5; 1614 +heal; 4.23% dodge; 10 nature resist (+10);[[ TBR: 588 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/yvfqpv ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/2qpguu ][ Updated: Wed Oct 10 09:00:19 2007 EST ]]
12:59.01Wobin!c us argent dawn jazzmyne
12:59.03ThraeBotWobin: Jazzmyne, Level 70 Night Elf Warrior (17/44/0). 8924 HP; 7989 Armour; 1626 AP; 197.300 Melee DPS; 19.96% melee crit; 75 melee hit; 36 defense; 10.25% dodge; 8.64% block; 3 resilience; 10 nature resist (+10);[[ TBR: 933 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/yq5ogp ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/32k9o7 ][ Updated: Wed Oct 10 09:00:32 2007 EST ]]
12:59.54KasowereHamster, seems like its an known issue with shuffles, http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=305204 guess i can stop bitching now
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13:08.56KasoI take that back
13:08.56Kasoits still screwed
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13:21.57KasoDamn apple, damn jobs, damn anyone connected with this god-forsaken ipod, i just want to listen to a loveline episode :<
13:25.47sag_ich_nichthttp://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=2288050194&sid=1 RUSSIA=PROT PALADIN
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13:26.28cryogenin soviet russia, paladin tank you
13:27.09sag_ich_nichtno
13:27.14sag_ich_nichtyou're doing it wrong
13:27.30sag_ich_nichtin azeroth
13:27.33sag_ich_nichtpaladins tank you
13:27.36sag_ich_nichtin soviet azeroth, you tank paladins!
13:27.48cryogenthat sounds silly though
13:27.49zenzioI like this workplace... using a 19" LCD, haven't even complained, and the boss decides I should get a 24"
13:27.55sag_ich_nichtthat's the point, cryogen.
13:28.00sag_ich_nicht!define joke
13:28.03sag_ich_nichtno wait
13:28.03cryogenno
13:28.06sag_ich_nicht~define joke
13:28.06purlUse ~dict for definitions.
13:28.11sag_ich_nicht~dict joke
13:28.16cryogenit sounds silly for a soviet russia joke
13:28.18sag_ich_nicht:P
13:28.24wereHamsterzenzio, grats
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13:28.42Kasozenzio tell him you need two!, dual screens is provent to increase productivity!
13:28.51zenzio:)
13:29.39cncfanatics24 inch ?
13:29.41cncfanaticswth thats gaming screens
13:29.42cncfanaticsgiev
13:30.13JoshBorke~wtf joke
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13:50.57WobinWe have 21"
13:50.58Wobiners
13:51.08WobinWe've been trying to convince them to give us dual monitors =)
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14:00.48Oreeis there a handy way (short typed) of "flipping" true/false? eks: x = true; return x; (want to return x as false)
14:01.05Kasoreturn not x
14:01.41Oreeah, doh, thx
14:01.49Oree;)
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14:10.28PolarinaAnyone knows where I can make the boost the frequency from my microphone? I'm using ALSA.
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14:27.23Wobinomg
14:27.24Wobinhttp://wetriffs.com/gallery/
14:28.07Kalrothlol
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15:03.52Kasohttp://www.theinquirer.net/gb/inquirer/news/2007/10/10/government-stuffs-al-qaeda
15:03.55Kaso-_-
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15:06.42WobinThat's an impressively neutral article =P
15:06.54Wobinkwality journalism =P
15:12.48Kasohehe
15:13.11KasoI dont mind inq's slightly bias writing style, cos they're usually bias against things which i dont like
15:13.27KasoThey're british comptuer mag, fits will with me a british comptuer science student
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15:29.23Nom-!c us Stormscale Innominata
15:29.25ThraeBotNom-: Innominata, Level 70 Blood Elf Paladin (0/49/12). 13917 HP; 6678 Mana; 126 mana regen; 15996 Armour; 81.200 Melee DPS; 4.93% melee crit; 8 spell hit; 265 +spell dmg/heal; 368 defense; 18.33% dodge; 19.61% block; +33 all resists (+5 all);[[ TBR: 878 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/22fj3l ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/2up98k ][ Updated: Wed Oct 10 11:30:55 2007 EST ]]
15:29.38Nom-boo yah
15:37.08Polarina!vs us Stormscale Innominata eu Scarshield Legion Polarina
15:37.11ThraeBotPolarina: Innominata vs Polarina! Innominata has +2 lvls on Polarina (70 vs 68); A L70 paladin and a L68 hunter square off!; 0/49/12 vs 0/11/45; Polarina wins by 21 TBRs!
15:37.17Polarina:P
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15:48.47Valaron|WorkHow did the 20 year old deputy who killed 6 people shoot himself in the head 3 times?
15:50.01Intangirwhat?
15:50.03KasoMachine gun? Hit his ears twice cos of bad shot?
15:50.04Intangiri didnt hear about this
15:50.17Intangiris this the guy who shot up a party?
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16:06.44Valaron|WorkYeah
16:06.59Valaron|Workhttp://www.cnn.com/2007/US/10/10/wisconsin.shooting/index.html
16:07.23Valaron|WorkI don't know anything about guns.. so I don't know what a .40 cal can do.
16:07.46Kaso40 cal is pretty big
16:07.48deltronblow a hole in a person
16:08.07KasoI dont think you'd expect to survive a shot to the head by it, let alone two
16:08.22Kaydeethreeno freaking way he took 3 shots to himself with a 40 cal
16:09.21zenzelezzmaybe he's just a really bad shot
16:09.21Kaso"Each of the three head shots were fired while the gun was in contact with his skin, or extremely close to the skin," he said. "These three head wounds are consistent with self-inflicted wounds, and not consistent with long-range rifle fire."
16:09.21KasoThe fourth gunshot wound, Van Hollen said, struck Peterson in the left bicep and appeared to have been fired from a rifle "at some distance."
16:09.21Kasoits a mystery
16:09.24Valaron|WorkIt's like a Kenney mystery!
16:09.31Valaron|Works/Kenney/Kennedy
16:09.40Valaron|WorkNice. Purl is off
16:09.47Kaydeethreefoo
16:09.49Kaydeethrees/foo/bar/
16:10.06Valaron|WorkWell, purl just doesn't like me.
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16:19.34zenzelezzValaron|Work: no, you left out the ending /
16:19.41Valaron|WorkOh
16:19.43Valaron|WorkDuh
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16:31.00Kaydeethreewoo-hoo. got my brewfest mount
16:32.38sag_ich_nichtgreat. enjoy your waste of bagspace while i still just spend 100 mana on summon charger.
16:32.45sag_ich_nicht:P
16:34.18Esamynnsag_ich_nicht: I see your Summon Charger and Raise you Flight Form! :P
16:39.21wereHamster< Valaron|Work> I don't know anything about guns.. so I don't know what a .40 cal can do.
16:39.31Valaron|WorkOk.
16:39.34wereHamsterapparently it can kill ..
16:39.56Valaron|WorkIt takes 3 shots to the head, though.
16:40.12wereHamster:)
16:40.27Valaron|WorkIt's like a BB gun
16:40.52wereHamsterBB?
16:41.16zenzelezz.40 is a bit weaker than a Desert Eagle, but more powerful than the average handgun I think
16:41.31Cairennhttp://www.google.com/url?sa=t&ct=res&cd=1&url=http%3A%2F%2Fen.wikipedia.org%2Fwiki%2FBB_gun&ei=tgANR5nhCI7MggKbjYiNAg&usg=AFQjCNFv4_aLuIzcERWmRhg2DoRPHjBVQg&sig2=Sf2tM4-eM5Z57JIOF3eK1Q
16:42.44MentalPowerCair, thats a pretty long URL to link to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BB_gun :P
16:42.55wereHamsterI was once shot with a airsoft gun - it hurt
16:43.17Cairennbecause I didn't bother to actually click the link, I just copied it straight from the google search page :p
16:43.23Cairennit still works though, no doesn't it?
16:43.30Cairenns/no/now/
16:43.59Kaydeethreeairsoft guns are fun. I've got a p228 lying around somewhere
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16:46.12Valaron|WorkIf a 40 cal can blow your head off, you would have though that the shooter wouldn't have been able to get a second shot off, let alone a third.
16:46.23Valaron|Works/though/thought/
16:47.25zenzelezzI know what you mean, but there are survivable shots to the head; depends where the bullet passes
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16:49.07BuuyoDoesn't even have to pass through for you to survive =p
16:49.19Buuyosmall calibre firearms may just penetrate the brain =3
16:49.26Buuyobut not exit
16:49.42Valaron|WorkWell, how powerful is a 40 cal?
16:49.59wereHamsterremember james bond, where one of the bad guys had a bullet in the head?
16:50.20Valaron|WorkWhich one?
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16:50.36CidanSweet Mary mother of Jesus
16:50.43CidanSonic is in the new Smash Bros!
16:50.48CidanWEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
16:51.02wereHamsterdon't remember, but is a recent one
16:51.10Valaron|WorkHmm.. Don't recall.
16:51.31wereHamsterwith brosnan playing james bond
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16:51.54Olisonnooo its a oold one
16:51.57LopeppeppyValaron... it was the guy who couldn't feel pain, if that help.  Chick who inherited the oil company, it was a Pierce Brosnan Bond flick, Denise Richards was a scientist chick... but I can't remember.
16:52.07Valaron|WorkAhh.
16:52.09Valaron|WorkOk.
16:52.11Valaron|WorkAnyways
16:52.14Olisonsure it was brosnan? :o
16:52.21Olisonthe guy with the metal teeth?
16:52.27Buuyojaws? =o
16:52.28LopeppeppyYes, Olison.  Him and Denise Richards and the oil-stuff.
16:52.30Buuyothat was moonraker wasn't it?
16:52.32Buuyo1980s =p
16:52.33Valaron|WorkOnly saw that movie once.
16:52.39OlisonYES Buuyo is right
16:54.02wereHamsterThe World Is Not Enough
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16:54.44MANOWAR^is there a conversion tool somewhere for old style  macros to the new one?
16:55.04Kaydeethreeold as in pre-2.0 or pre-2.2?
16:55.14MANOWAR^i have a bunch of old macros that use /script to do decisions that i am unable to get to work with /cast
16:55.19MANOWAR^pre 2.0 i believe
16:55.28zenzelezzwhat kind of decisions?
16:56.04MANOWAR^like checking to see if Frostnova is up or if Frostbite is up
16:56.11Kaydeethreethat can't be done any more
16:56.34MANOWAR^wait i thought the docs said you can't check the time on it
16:56.45MANOWAR^as in if the cooldown is up or not
16:56.56Esamynncorrect, you cannot
16:57.09zenzelezzyou can only make a very few decisions in macros now
16:57.11Kaydeethreethe docs may have said that before 6 December 2006, it hasn't been possible to do it since then
16:57.34CidanHellllooooo?  Sonic in Smash Bros?  Who cares about all this other junk!
16:57.41CidanIt's Sonic in Smash Bros!
16:57.56MANOWAR^ok but can i check if the debuff is applied to a target?
16:58.00Kaydeethreeno
16:58.03MANOWAR^or am i totally confused now
16:58.34MANOWAR^ok
16:58.41Kaydeethreehttp://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=108386180&sid=1
16:58.45EsamynnMANOWAR^: rule of thumb, macros can only make descisions based on factors that you control
16:58.49Kaydeethreescroll to the "How do I cast a spell if ____?" section
16:58.53Esamynnie. the current actionbar page
16:59.14MANOWAR^humm
16:59.17Punkie`You generally can't make "pure logic" macros
16:59.23MANOWAR^well i was getting excited for no reason :)
16:59.34Punkie`because that led to things like
16:59.54Kaydeethreeoh, Valaron|Work: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/.40_S%26W is probably the cartridge that cop used
17:00.32Punkie`select target that has the lowest hp, select best heal based on his hp deficit, cast heal
17:00.32BuuyoSecure action button template + preloading logic will make it work in the presence of cooldowns tho, will it not?
17:00.37Punkie`MANOWAR^: you can do something like, /castsequence Frost Nova, Ice Lance though
17:00.40Buuyocooldowns and debuffs
17:01.33MANOWAR^ahum
17:01.43BuuyoActually honestly I dont know if it will. I've been writing some test code that will cycle through my various shields (ice barrier, trinket, mana shield) based on cooldowns =p
17:02.10Buuyowhich is probably similar in concept
17:03.13Gnarfozbased on cooldowns should not be possible anymore?
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17:04.09BuuyoWell, I haven't figured it out yet, but I'm possitive that there's gotta be a way to track/associate times with secure action button templates
17:04.31BuuyoIt's wishful I think, but it's my project for now. I -will- find a way to one-button play. =p
17:04.58Cidaner
17:05.00CidanNo you won't.
17:05.22CidanAnd if, -if- you do, like Shirik once did then it will just be patched.
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17:10.43cog|workwow... World of Warcraft Programming is already #83 best seller in Amazon's game programming books... we haven't even finished writing it...
17:12.21sag_ich_nichtmhm
17:12.25sag_ich_nichtit's getting colder outside
17:12.54sag_ich_nichtguess it's time to turn on the heating
17:13.17sag_ich_nichtthere
17:13.19sag_ich_nichtthat should do
17:13.32MANOWAR^hehe
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17:14.09CidanMan
17:14.11LopeppeppyI wish, sag_ich_nicht.  The AC is still on here.
17:14.14Cidansome of these portal puzzles are hard.
17:14.19sag_ich_nichtLopeppeppy maybe in your country.
17:14.34LopeppeppyNo.  It surely shouldn't be, it's only 53 degrees outside (F)
17:14.37sag_ich_nichtbrb turning down that CPU fan for real
17:14.41zenzelezzmy room has felt chilly ever since I swapped my CRTs for LCDs
17:14.59sag_ich_nichtthere
17:16.00sag_ich_nichtwtf.
17:16.06sag_ich_nichtmy CPU VCore is flucating
17:16.10sag_ich_nicht*flucuating
17:16.14sag_ich_nichtthat shouldn't happen.
17:16.28cog|work*fluctuating
17:16.30Kaydeethreepsu about to release the magic smoke?
17:16.32sag_ich_nichtDAMN IT
17:16.35sag_ich_nichtKaydeethree nah
17:16.40sag_ich_nichtit's an enermax
17:16.54sag_ich_nichtit has the magic smoke sealed in with magic. it can not escape.
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17:17.02sag_ich_nichti guess it's the motherboard being a dick
17:17.03sag_ich_nichtwell
17:17.05sag_ich_nichtwho cares
17:17.15sag_ich_nichti'll replace the CPU soon anyway
17:17.40MANOWAR^its 81F out here
17:17.50sag_ich_nicht17°C
17:17.51MANOWAR^humid as hell though
17:17.53sag_ich_nichtin my room.
17:17.56MANOWAR^feels like 89
17:18.03sag_ich_nichtlisten
17:18.15sag_ich_nichtthis is science
17:18.15sag_ich_nichtthus
17:18.20sag_ich_nichtTHIS IS CEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEELSIUUUUUUS
17:18.25sag_ich_nicht(or kelvin)
17:18.30Kaydeethreeit's a rather comfy 26c outside right now
17:18.36sag_ich_nichtD:
17:18.55MANOWAR^ok fine its
17:18.59MANOWAR^95K out here
17:19.09sag_ich_nichtlies
17:19.14sag_ich_nichtyou'd be dead
17:19.21cog|workand solid
17:19.28Kaydeethreehttp://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=95kelvin+in+fahrenheit&btnG=Search
17:19.31cog|workand brittle
17:19.51sag_ich_nichtthe CPU temperature is falling.
17:19.52sag_ich_nichtstill.
17:19.55sag_ich_nicht40°C
17:20.02sag_ich_nichtguess i have to load up WoW :X
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17:20.33cog|workMANOWAR^: you'd be able to take a nice cool dip in liquid nitrogen
17:20.43Cairennbtw sag_ich_nicht - Celsius != Kelvin :p
17:20.54MANOWAR^shit yeah
17:21.01cog|workCairenn: it's the same scale though just shifted
17:21.01MANOWAR^terminator 2 ain't got nothing on me
17:21.03sag_ich_nichtCairenn: i know
17:21.19cog|worki think he was just referring to the "this is science" part
17:21.19sag_ich_nichtKaydeethree: or you can just put this: http://www.google.com/search?&q=81+fahrenheit+%3D+%3F+kelvin
17:21.37Cairennin that case, yeah
17:22.13cog|worksag_ich_nicht: you can use "in" instead of "= ?"
17:22.57sag_ich_nichtcog|work: i know. but ? and = are next to each other on the QWERTZ keyboard layout, and my thumb is always at the spacebar anyway, so typing that is shorter :P
17:23.38cog|workDvorak too
17:23.47sag_ich_nichtfuck dvorak
17:23.57cog|workit's teh secks so... ok
17:23.57sag_ich_nichti LIKE my inefficient keyboard.
17:24.56sag_ich_nichtit's the same reason i still use mail/ed for my emails(altho i have to admit i started to use mutt recently >.>). "you asked for it, now you're getting it" vs. "lol WYSIWYG"
17:25.33cog|work!
17:25.39cog|workI want a § key...
17:25.44sag_ich_nicht§
17:25.45sag_ich_nichtdone
17:25.47zenzelezzyou don't have one?
17:25.48sag_ich_nichtshift + 4 :P
17:25.58zenzelezzshift + | on my layout
17:26.00cog|worki'm looking at the QWERTZ layout and saw it there
17:26.30cog|workwould make discussing simcity much easier
17:26.36sag_ich_nichtlol
17:26.45cog|work(and the sims i guess but i'm not addicted to that one :P )
17:27.01Kaydeethreeheh... I need to play sc2k again, it's been a while
17:27.18cog|worksc4 pwnz
17:27.18sag_ich_nichtWTB working 256 color emulation layer for the win32 version of sc2k
17:27.34sag_ich_nichtsomething that makes sc2k think it's running in 256 color mode
17:27.37sag_ich_nichtwhile it's not
17:27.48sag_ich_nichtbecause otherwise it won't run animations
17:28.24dreamsslo
17:28.27sag_ich_nichtbecause the check in it is color != 8 bit instead of color >= 8 bit
17:28.34sag_ich_nicht(stupid fucking programmer)
17:28.35cog|worki own every simcity except the original
17:28.48sag_ich_nichti own original and sc2k
17:28.58sag_ich_nichtand of course
17:28.59sag_ich_nichtSIM TOWER
17:29.00dreamssin floopy?
17:29.08zenzelezzSim Copter zomg
17:29.09sag_ich_nichtdreamss original in floppy. for my atari 320.
17:29.09Kaydeethreeholy hell, someone else who's played sim tower!
17:29.20sag_ich_nichtKaydeethree: I EVEN HAVE PLAYED
17:29.25KarlKFIi played it in jr hi
17:29.27sag_ich_nicht*GASP*
17:29.27dreamssi was never a sims guy
17:29.32dreamssset the toons on fire
17:29.34Cidan<3 Sim tower
17:29.34dreamssand laugh
17:29.36Cidanno, not sims
17:29.36sag_ich_nichtYOOT TOWER!
17:29.39CidanSim Tower
17:29.41Cidanand Sim City
17:29.49Cidanbefore the lame ass EA The Sims
17:29.50sag_ich_nicht(aka Sim Tower 2)
17:29.53Kaydeethreewtf... they actually created yoot tower? always thought that was a myth
17:29.58sag_ich_nichtno
17:29.58sag_ich_nichtit exists
17:30.01sag_ich_nichtand it's fucking hard
17:30.05sag_ich_nicht(Sim Tower was already hard)
17:30.06dreamssi did a lil bit of sim city
17:30.28Kaydeethreethen it appears I've got some searching to do...
17:30.46dreamsshttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Simtower.gif
17:30.48dreamsslol
17:30.52dreamsslooks crowded
17:30.55sag_ich_nichtKaydeethree: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yoot_Tower
17:31.53dreamssthere is an xbox arcade game were u have to build a space station
17:31.56dreamssits pretty fun
17:32.01KasoSim tower, man that game brings me back to my childhood
17:32.05Kasoalso Sim City 2000
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17:32.44sag_ich_nichtdreamss: i know. it exists for PC too
17:32.48sag_ich_nichtfucking crashy as hell tho
17:33.07sag_ich_nichtnever finished it because it went on to CRASH and CRASH and CRASH and CRASH
17:33.21jona_0051can anybody spare time to help a nooby with table,function coding problem
17:33.42dreamssthat reminds me, u guys play geometry wars?
17:33.49Cidanjona_0051: What's up?
17:34.07sag_ich_nichtdreamss: i did, stopped tho
17:34.10sag_ich_nichtdreamss
17:34.21sag_ich_nichtwrite a patch for sc2k that fixes the colorcheck to be >= instead of !=
17:34.22sag_ich_nicht>.>
17:34.34dreamsshehe
17:34.46CidanDo it in asm
17:34.53Cidanthat's like, one op
17:34.53dreamssfind the memory address and change it ?
17:35.00Cidanya seriously, :P
17:35.12dreamsshttp://media.xbox360.ign.com/media/777/777203/img_3263399.html
17:35.15sag_ich_nichtlike i can disassemble or asm for that matter >.>
17:35.17jona_0051i got a table with three rows first row holds repeated data and third row holds qty i need to transfer data over to a second table which contains only 1 of each item but total of the qty
17:35.20dreamssthis game was to addicting
17:35.35sag_ich_nichtwait
17:35.36sag_ich_nichtthis reminds me
17:35.40sag_ich_nichtof the most awesome space shooter
17:35.40sag_ich_nichtEVER
17:35.47dreamssfreespace
17:35.51sag_ich_nichtno
17:35.51sag_ich_nicht2D
17:36.05Cidanfreespace 2 was the best
17:36.06cog|worksag_ich_nicht: that wouldn't fix it
17:36.09sag_ich_nichthttp://www.sdispace.com/inspace.htm
17:36.11sag_ich_nichtcog|work: o rly
17:36.20cog|workthe reason it needs 256 color modes is because the "animation" is merely palette changes
17:36.32cog|workit doesn't have to rewrite any pixels at all
17:36.48KaydeethreeTPB, I <3 you...
17:36.55cog|work256 is the only paletted color mode on PCs
17:37.33cog|workso it would have to be a directx or gdi feature to emulate it for that program
17:37.52sag_ich_nichtiirc windows xp does transcribing for programs that try to do this
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17:38.37cog|workthere is the Run in 256 colors compatibility option, but afaik that still affects your entire desktop
17:38.44sag_ich_nichtto test this however, one would need to patch the damn friggin game to stop checking and disabling animations altogether :X
17:39.26sag_ich_nichtcog|work: yes, but i had a few games that forced the desktop into 256 had animations that used palette changes and when you forced it back up to 32-bit they would still work, but maybe i'm wrong
17:39.33sag_ich_nicht+that
17:39.55sag_ich_nichtanyway
17:39.58sag_ich_nichthttp://www.sdispace.com/inspace.htm best shooter ever.
17:40.12dreamssgotta play some tf2
17:40.14jona_0051<cidan>:did u see my problem?
17:40.43art3mishttp://steelkaleidoscopes.typepad.com/steel_kaleidoscopes/Cobain_370.gif <-- best shooter evah
17:41.12sag_ich_nicht~whalenuke art3mis
17:41.13purlACTION dons his radiation cloak and tinted glasses while a highly intelligent whale named Ray precipitates critical mass for uncontrolled nuclear fission around art3mis with his mind powers
17:41.35art3mis~whaleshield
17:41.36purlACTION summons a rather dense leaden whale named Billy Bob to shield art3mis from the blast.
17:41.48sag_ich_nicht~whalecrit art3mis
17:41.49purlACTION crits art3mis with a mathematically skilled whale named Isaac for #NaN. art3mis dies
17:41.53art3mis~whaleblock
17:42.00sag_ich_nichtpwnt.
17:42.13art3misbooo
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17:49.07Kaydeethreeboo. simtower will install in wine, can't get it to run
17:50.22art3misthats cuz wine is to advanced for it ;P
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17:50.53cog|workrun wine as win98 perhaps?
17:51.32Kaydeethreedropped it to 95 and 3.1, it's trying to access 0xffffffff
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17:53.34art3miscog didja see all my new cycircled skins?
17:54.07cog|workheh
17:54.09art3mishttp://www.gothi.ca/Stuff/cycircled-art.jpg
17:54.22art3mis<-- got bored last night
17:54.43sag_ich_nichtKaydeethree: congrats. you have found a bug in WINE.
17:54.54Valaron|WorkI like the font you use in the pic with the orange background.
17:54.58cog|workart3mis: pumpkin SS is fuzzy
17:55.13sag_ich_nichtand since it breaks such an old game
17:55.22sag_ich_nichtit might already be known, and if not, may dig up a ton more bugs!
17:55.34Kaydeethreeit's a sound issue. disabled sound and it works just fine
17:55.53sag_ich_nichti told you. you found a bug. it will dig up more bugs.
17:55.56sag_ich_nichtthen you tell me it's a sound issue.
17:56.01sag_ich_nichtthere's your bug right there.
17:56.08sag_ich_nichtin before another million soundfixes.
17:56.48sag_ich_nichtactually
17:57.07sag_ich_nichtin before the bugfix for this mysteriously improves sound quality for WoW :X
17:59.25dreamssi just disabled sounds in wow
17:59.27dreamssheh
18:00.27LopeppeppyI'm pretty close to that myself, dreamss
18:01.00alextpatch 2.2.3 make it worse eh?
18:01.11dreamssof course, this is blizzard
18:01.19alextmy sound was half fucked in 2.2.2 and got worse with 2.2.3 but i found a thread with some suggestions
18:01.21alexthope i can still find it
18:01.31alextone of them fixed my issues, something i had to add at the end of config.wtf
18:03.08LopeppeppyIf you can find it, please show me?  I'll try anything not to sound like Frosty the Snowman anymore.
18:03.23alextsure
18:03.38dreamsshehe he can open his config file and paste the fix
18:03.56art3mishttp://flz.sk.cx/acer.jpg
18:04.24art3miscog|work: the punkin one looks wierd because of the leaves, and that i didnt make it the same scaled size as the other screenies
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18:05.02alextdreamss: not from work i cant ;[
18:05.28alextheres one thread that mentions a fix, its not what i did but it looks interesting
18:05.30alexthttp://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=2288080668&sid=1
18:06.57alexthere it is
18:07.00alextpost #14
18:07.01alexthttp://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=2288039949&sid=1
18:07.19alextOpen up the config.wtf file in the WTF folder using Wordpad. Here are your options.
18:07.19alextTry adding this line at the bottom:
18:07.19alextSET Sound_EnableMixMode2 "1"
18:07.32alextthe first option (that one) worked for me...but let me clarify ;]
18:07.43alextright after 2.2.3, I was getting alot of pops and hisses I never got before
18:07.52alextand half my sounds were "missing"
18:08.02alextafter doing that fix, no more pops and hisses and I only miss about 10% of my sounds
18:08.10alextso theres still an issue, but its greatly reduced in severity
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18:09.11dreamssEnableMixMode2 ?
18:09.13dreamsslol
18:09.21LopeppeppyWhy lol?
18:09.28alextyeah i dont know what the fuck it does
18:09.34alextbut it fixed a majority of my issues
18:09.42dreamssprolly an alternative sound mixer
18:09.47dreamsswith lower quality
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18:09.49alexti consider these all work-arounds, the big problem is they fucked up period.
18:10.01alextwell i cant tell any difference in quality with my ears but who knows
18:10.20dreamsshehe
18:10.25alextI did a 4 hour raid after and it sounded the same as it always does
18:10.34LopeppeppyI'm not a snap-crackle-pop person, I just sound like frosty the snowman on vent now.
18:10.34alextexcept still missing occasional sounds
18:10.49alextoh then you will be glad to know they didnt fix the mic problem like they said
18:10.56LopeppeppyYeah, that's what I've found.
18:11.00alextin the patch notes "fixed the issue where voice chat is disabled but wow still takes mic resources"
18:11.07alextthe hell its fixed lol
18:11.11dreamsslol
18:11.14alextventrilo still bitches at me if i load it after wow
18:11.27Cidanso if you go into sound options and disable voice in the sound menu
18:11.30alextERROR ERROR YOUR RESOURCES ARE IN USE
18:11.31Cidanit still ties res?
18:11.33alextyes
18:11.39alextgg!
18:11.56dreamssdid u try to disable directsound
18:12.05dreamssto fix frosty sound on vent
18:12.43alextI personally didnt
18:13.03alextI dont like to fiddle with apps that have worked for months straight when I know its a recent patch on another app that fucked it all up
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18:13.09alextits fine tho, i just load vent before wow
18:13.13alextand it works
18:13.39dreamsssound filters in direct sound are what adds sound effects
18:14.36LopeppeppyI can try that, dreamss, but I'm reluctant to mess up the volume levels I have set by using my sound card for Vent....I just don't want to screw it up for use when not in WoW.
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18:15.05LopeppeppyAnd yes, Cidan, my in-game VOIP options are not turned on.  
18:15.58dreamssit should help
18:16.16Cidanhuh
18:16.18Cidanstrange.
18:16.40CidanHoly shit...
18:16.49CidanYou Portal, that game Valve just put out?
18:16.54Cidaner, You know portal
18:16.55Cidan:P
18:17.03CidanUhm yeah, it... has a really good story line.
18:17.08CidanTotally unexpected.
18:17.15dreamssportal fuckin owns
18:17.17Cideit's like amazingly fun
18:17.29CidanHave you seen the... er, later parts?
18:17.34Cideyeah, I beat it
18:17.40Cidanoh, I have not yet, :x
18:17.45dreamssim like halfway 40%
18:17.51dreamssnot have the aide cube yet
18:18.32art3miscidan gibbor me the infos again
18:18.47Cidanoh
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18:22.20LysistrataHi! :) I'm looking for an addon I had asometime ago but I can't finde it. It did add somekind of "shadeing" effect to the Actionbar buttons and I think you were able to change there shape too (using Bartender3 for Action bars replacement)
18:22.32art3miscycirled
18:22.33LopeppeppycyCircled?
18:22.37Lopeppeppyfiles.wowace.com
18:22.46art3mishi peppy!
18:22.51art3miswanna go make out?
18:23.07LopeppeppyNo thank you, art3mis, I'm saving my lips for the husband-critter today.
18:23.27cog|workart3mis: http://xkcd.com/322/ :P
18:23.48LysistrataThanks so it was cyCircled after all I just remember it as somekind of independend Actionbar addon. Thanks! :D
18:24.30art3misLopeppeppy: okies, he's prolly more deserveing, i was just using you for boredom replacement
18:24.46dreamsspfft
18:25.02dreamssyou gotta be like im not jealous
18:25.11art3misoh sorry
18:25.17LopeppeppyI'm..... so not excited to be a substitute for the blow-up doll, art3mis.
18:25.21art3mis**processing manly response**
18:25.34dreamss**man screen of death**
18:25.45art3misLike that wimp has anything for saving for, you need to dump the chump and get with a champ!
18:25.49art3mishows that?
18:25.58Thunder_Childsad
18:26.01art3misheh
18:26.05cog|work"anything for saving for" ?
18:26.08dreamsssounds like u need a software update
18:26.23art3misit's hard to be truely offended when you didnt even expect a response at all in the first place
18:26.24Thunder_Childnerds...
18:26.43art3misLopeppeppy: substitue, not replacement ;P
18:26.58dreamsspractice doll
18:27.01art3misit's not like i'd pick the plastic if we were all on the couch...
18:27.09art3misheh
18:30.45wereHamsterhow do I join a voice chat channel?
18:31.03nevcairieljoin a normal channel
18:31.06nevcairieland have voice active =P
18:32.09wereHamsterif I'm in more than one channel?
18:32.27EsamynnwereHamster: you know that new chat tab in the social window?
18:32.35wereHamsterno
18:32.42Esamynncheck it out
18:33.03wereHamstercool, thanks\
18:35.36art3miscog|work: forgot the word "worth" in there
18:35.52wereHamsterwoohoo.. it works :)
18:37.05wereHamsterdidn't expect that
18:41.59Kaydeethreelmao... my roommate walked in to me playing simcity: "You bastard! I was looking for that last night! Lemme have a copy too."
18:42.05Kaydeethrees/simcity/simtower/
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18:43.45Thunder_Childi remeber playing simtower....wow that was a while back
18:43.57Thunder_Childremember*
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18:55.07|Jelly|~lart cog|work
18:55.07purlhooks into a hydrant and hoses cog|work down
18:55.33cog|work~whaleparry
18:55.38cog|work~whaleparry |Jelly|
18:55.39purlACTION uses a slightly less-huge but eminently more agile killer whale named Edwardo to parry |Jelly|'s attacks.
18:56.14|Jelly|Aww.
18:56.17|Jelly|I'm sorry.
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19:01.37Thunder_Child*snicker* @ |Jelly|
19:01.48|Jelly|lol
19:02.18Thunder_Childok, so SOMETIMES the forums can be fun
19:04.11cog|workI'm surprised "ron jeremy" wasn't censored ><
19:04.26Thunder_Childhardly...it's a resonable name
19:04.30Valaron|WorkWhat's in a name?
19:04.43cog|workletters
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19:11.42Thunder_Childhaving fun Adys?
19:11.52AdysOnly with Kalroth.
19:12.06Thunder_Childget aroom
19:12.12Thunder_Childerr... a room*
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19:19.20|Jelly|~seen jelly
19:19.25purljelly is currently on #debian (5d 11h 33m 31s), last said: 'rvalles: good, I haven't worked with m68k (nor ppc32), but all the arches I've seen stuffed useful modules in initrd'.
19:29.05Intangirhttp://www.cnbc.com/id/21209903/site/14081545
19:30.28Intangircnbc pulled the poll down cause ron paul was winning..
19:30.29Intangirfreaking lame
19:30.32Cidanahahahahhahahaha
19:30.36Cidan@credits for portal
19:30.38Cidanrofl
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19:31.53LinCidan: hi
19:32.03LinCidan: I loved Hello, Kitty theme!
19:32.07Cidanlol
19:32.07Cidan:D
19:33.33Linreally!
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19:36.19foxlitHah, I clicked the link, got a 404
19:36.34foxlitGlanced at the ad, went away, then decided to find it again
19:36.46foxlitIt read "Our most powerful diesel has over 100,000 hp"
19:37.52Linsomeone here uses the dash addon?
19:38.40Intangirdash?
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19:39.26|Jelly|For the phantom Peppy who's here in spirit: http://icanhascheezburger.files.wordpress.com/2007/10/128345714443906250alazerpointer.jpg
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19:46.01cog|workIntangir: :( I would sooooo vote for him if i were registered as a republican...
19:46.34Cidanwhat does being registered have to do with anything?
19:48.43LinIntangir: yes dash.
19:49.39ScytheBlade1There's one thing that really pisses me off
19:49.43ScytheBlade1And that's thread necromancy
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19:50.06ScytheBlade1http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=48694952&postId=22877561740&sid=1#52
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19:57.52foxlit"TO ANYONE ELSE READING THIS THREAD: STOP POSTING HERE. PLEASE. " is worse :)
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20:03.07Saint-Nokay so i got my super talent 4g mp3/avi player today
20:03.14Saint-Nand it's super slick
20:03.27foxlit4g being 4gb?
20:03.33Saint-Nyeah
20:03.41Saint-N100$ 2.5" screen
20:03.47Saint-Nlooks like a mini iphone
20:03.51foxlitThat's smaller than a nano?
20:04.02Saint-Nnanos are 2 and 4g
20:04.06Saint-Nthe 8g just came out
20:04.14foxlitWell, no, you're wrong there
20:04.24zenzelezzso our first World Breaker goes to... a shaman. Because no-one wanted to really bid on it
20:04.26foxlitAnd I was mainly concerned about the screen size
20:04.27Saint-Nand doesnt play movies, have radio cant record, doesnt have tetris, and cant read ebooks
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20:04.47foxlitplays movies, doesn't have radio, has games, ebooks are tricky
20:04.56Saint-Nyeah the screen is 2"x2.5"
20:05.08Saint-Nplus it plays standard formats ;)
20:05.19Saint-Nand its 1/2 the price of a nano
20:05.41foxlitGot a link to tech specs somewhere?
20:06.08wereHamster.. and a picture?
20:06.34Saint-Nhalf a sec
20:06.42foxlithttp://www.supertalent.com/products/mp3.php
20:06.50foxlitProbably the first cell
20:07.00Saint-Nyup
20:07.10Saint-Nthe vidego mp4 series
20:07.19foxlitCompare http://www.apple.com/ipodnano/specs.html
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20:08.39foxlitPrice aside, I'd rather have the nano, but grats on your new pocket video device :)
20:08.44Saint-Nheh
20:08.47Saint-Ni wouldnt
20:08.54Saint-Ni cant stand proprietary devices
20:09.14foxlitPity, they tend to be better.
20:09.20Maldiviahmm... any taint specialists present?
20:09.28foxlit~asktoask
20:09.29purlThis is IRC. Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question and if someone's around, they'll be glad to help.
20:09.35Saint-Nthat depends entirely on the size of your music and video collection ;P
20:09.59Saint-Ni dont think nanos can double as flash drives either
20:10.06Saint-Nout of box anyways
20:10.06foxlitIgnorance there.
20:10.16foxlitYou can use it as a flash drive if you want to, you still need a cable
20:10.30Saint-Nyeah this is standard usb
20:10.35Saint-Nno fancy cables ;)
20:10.36Saint-Noh
20:10.40cog|workMaldivia: i believe that ~asktoask was directed at you :P
20:10.42Saint-Nneatest thing they included in the box
20:10.47Saint-Na usb adapter
20:10.51Maldiviacogwheel: I know, but I didn't ask to ask :)
20:11.00Saint-Nyou plug the adapter into an outlet and can plug in any usb device
20:11.14cog|workMaldivia: not on the surface, but the ultimate end is the same
20:11.15cog|work:P
20:11.20Saint-Nso now i have a portable means of chanrging my ipaq, phone whatever
20:11.34Saint-Nfoxlit: and it's a touch screen
20:11.39Saint-N;)
20:11.42cog|workMaldivia: i assume you weren't planning to simply ~lart a "taint specialist" if one was around :P
20:11.52Maldiviacogwheel: you never know!...
20:12.20cog|workbut i was right :P
20:12.27cog|workso ask
20:12.32Maldiviaheh
20:12.53Kandok1Ok, need a bit O' advice. Using the GetAuctionItemInfo
20:12.59ScytheBlade1http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=2288051103&sid=1 <-- how's that for a character name?
20:13.33Maldiviacogwheel: it was just, if run in secure code, frame:Hide() doesn't taint... but would getglobal(frame:GetName()):Hide() taint ?
20:13.48Maldiviawhere frame is a user-created frame
20:14.16cog|workcalling a function doesn't taint anything
20:14.18Maldiviaand assuming that getglobal(frame:GetName()) == frame
20:14.22Saint-Nhehe i see a problem with macros of that nature scythe ;P
20:14.27cog|workunless that function has side-effects that modify a lua value
20:14.28foxlitSaint-N: It's mainly the smaller size, bigger storage capacity, significantly better batter life time, better video codecs (judging by format) and the iTunes Music Store that make nano more interesting.
20:14.31Kandok1*GetAuctionItemInfo()  gives me an item name, how do i query to get an itemID or link since GetItemInfo() will not work ith item name. Unless its already in your inventory.
20:14.42Saint-Nmostly attributed to being a monstrous waste of mana while fighting ;P
20:14.52Saint-Nredotting etc etc etc
20:15.11Maldiviacogwheel: yeah that was my understanding aswell, but since you're using the return value of a function, and that return value is tainted
20:15.19foxlitKandok1: short of carrying a list of item names around, you can't.
20:15.46foxlitMaldivia: it wouldn't matter
20:15.55foxlitYour reference to the frame would be tainted
20:16.01foxlitNot the frame itself
20:17.34Maldiviafoxlit: so you're saying, the latter shouldn't taint?
20:17.49foxlitYep
20:17.56foxlitAt least, I would expect it not to.
20:18.01Kandok1Thanks foxit.
20:18.02Maldiviabut it seems it does...
20:18.41cog|workMaldivia: /using/ a value doesn't taint it
20:18.54foxlitNah
20:19.05cog|worktaint doesn't affect show/hideability
20:19.13cog|workit affects what code is allowed to show or hide a frame
20:19.17MaldiviaI know
20:19.29Saint-Ndoes the new itunes have the ability to export to mp3, without burning a cd?
20:19.37Maldiviabut if the execution path is tainted, the show/hide are ignored
20:19.39foxlitConcern was that by using getglobal, you acquire a reference to the frame.
20:19.48foxlit(Your execution path is always tainted)
20:19.58Maldivianot when we're talking blizzard code
20:20.06Maldiviawhich I stated in the beginning
20:20.12foxlitSince that reference is now logically tainted, the question became "does this also taint the frame for everyone else?"
20:20.34cog|workMaldivia: what exactly is the problem then? something you're doing is tainting the wow execution path, and showing the frame isn't it...
20:21.12foxlitCalling getglobal itself won't taint anything either
20:21.30foxlitIf the return value of getglobal is tainted, however, your execution path becomes tainted as well
20:21.37foxlit(which was the purpose of securecall)
20:21.48cog|workcalling getglobal is no different semantically from accessing the global variable directly
20:22.20Maldiviafoxlit: so you're saying there is a difference in frame:Hide() and getglobal(frame:GetName()):Hide()
20:22.29foxlitNo
20:23.20JoshBorkeunless the frame has no name
20:23.29Maldiviawell, frame:Hide() - where frame is tainted - doesn't taint the execution path
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20:23.55Maldivia"<foxlit> If the return value of getglobal is tainted, however, your execution path becomes tainted as well" <-- but if accessed through getglobal, it will
20:24.05jona_0094can anybody tell me why this code kicks up the attached error please? http://ace.pastey.net/75134
20:24.26foxlitjona_0094: lua is case sensitive
20:24.31foxlitrow is not Row
20:24.33ScytheBlade1You have Row
20:24.33Maldiviajona_0094: lower case row vs Row
20:24.33ScytheBlade1Yeah
20:24.52ScytheBlade1What the other two said
20:25.23JoshBorkei believe it's because lua is case sensitive
20:25.25JoshBorkei could be wrong though
20:26.32JoshBorke>.<:  "Please wait while this update is applied.  This may take several minutes to several hours depending on the products you have installed."  SEVERAL HOURS?!
20:28.05foxlitfunction shadow(t) return setmetatable({},{__index=function(it,k) return type(t[k]) == "table" and shadow(t[k]) or t[k]; end}); end
20:28.10foxlitThoughts?
20:29.00JoshBorkelooks like voodoo magic
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20:29.22Valaron|WorkUpdate for what?
20:29.27JoshBorkeVS 2005
20:29.31foxlit"You can look, but not touch"
20:30.15cog|workJoshBorke: i have never been able to understand what kind of crap MS has VS doing that could take hours to update
20:30.20cog|workjust copy new files damnit!
20:30.22Valaron|WorkAhh.. well, SP2 is almost 200Mb.
20:30.43JoshBorke>>> function shadow(t) return setmetatable({},{__index=function(it,k) return type(t[k]) == "table" and shadow(t[k]) or t[k]; end}); end
20:30.44CideJoshBorke: nil
20:30.49Valaron|WorkIt might be thinking that you're on a modem connection :)
20:30.58JoshBorke>>> function shadow(t) return setmetatable({},{__index=function(it,k) return type(t[k]) == "table" and shadow(t[k]) or t[k]; end}); end; local t = shadow({})
20:30.58CideJoshBorke: nil
20:31.15cog|workValaron|Work: it has nothing to do with downloading
20:31.24JoshBorke>>> function shadow(t) return setmetatable({},{__index=function(it,k) return type(t[k]) == "table" and shadow(t[k]) or t[k]; end}); end; local t = {'test', 'fred'}; shadow(t); t['test']
20:31.24CideJoshBorke: [string "function shadow(t) return setmetatable({},{__index=function(it,..."]:1: '=' expected near '<eof>'
20:31.35cog|workJoshBorke: l2pm imo
20:31.37cog|work:P
20:31.37JoshBorke>>> function shadow(t) return setmetatable({},{__index=function(it,k) return type(t[k]) == "table" and shadow(t[k]) or t[k]; end}); end; local t = {'test', 'fred'}; t = shadow(t); t['test']
20:31.38CideJoshBorke: [string "function shadow(t) return setmetatable({},{__index=function(it,..."]:1: '=' expected near '<eof>'
20:31.56JoshBorkewhat's this pm jnuk you speak of?
20:32.23cog|work<PROTECTED>
20:32.41JoshBorketoo late, cladbot is back
20:32.43JoshBorkewent to #luabot
20:32.49Maldiviahmm... is the plural for of pm, pms ? :)
20:32.51JoshBorkeand your code doesn't work foxlit
20:33.00foxlitSec
20:33.01Maldivias/for/form/
20:33.08Saint-Ncool this thing supports lrc files
20:33.13Saint-Nso i can sing along ;)
20:33.20JoshBorkefoxlit: btw, there's an example of a read-only table in PiL
20:33.58foxlitI wonder how that read-only-ness measures up against rawset
20:34.20foxlitJosh: you aren't really testing the right thing :)
20:34.21JoshBorkedon't know that it does.  it also doesn't measure up to metatable mucking about
20:34.29JoshBorkefoxlit: that could be true
20:34.34Maldiviayour shadow'ed table wouldn't be readonly
20:35.25foxlitThat's fine
20:35.41foxlitWrites to the shadowed table, would, however, only affect the shadow table
20:35.46Shadowedeh?
20:35.48foxlitAnd not whatever it is shadowing
20:35.49Maldiviatrue
20:35.51JoshBorkeyes, that's correct
20:35.51Shadowedi hate you foxlit
20:36.33JoshBorkelol shadow
20:36.51foxlithttp://foxlit.pastey.net/75136
20:37.34JoshBorkethat's too much to grok
20:37.44foxlitYeah, it's very evil
20:38.01foxlitWhich probably means I'm misguided at some level
20:41.19foxlitThe idea is that I can load multiple files using that code, and while they'll all have access to the loader table, they'll be unable to affect each other's access (by, say, rewriting a function in the loader table - such a change would be local to the module).
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20:45.13cog|workQuick survey: What systems in WoW are deprecated (officially or otherwise)? So far I have the old event handler global arguments and the original 2.0 state driver.
20:45.26cog|workand Cidan, no... XML is not deprecated
20:45.44cog|work:P
20:45.59foxlitOld way of specifying type=item attribute parameters
20:46.17cog|workhmm?
20:46.38jona_0094sorry mental power the code makes the table but i cant get the table from outside the function
20:46.50foxlitbag, slot attributes specifically
20:47.03foxlitit now takes item="bag slot" or item="inventoryslot"
20:47.14cog|workah
20:47.21cog|workhmm...
20:47.52MentalPowerjona_0094: how are you calling it?
20:49.14Thunder_Childcog|work, check the wowwiki patch lists?
20:49.25jona_0094testtable,testtotal=IsReAgent(link)
20:49.32Maldiviacogwheel: are the old spell events still there, if so are they considered deprecated?
20:50.03cog|workThunder_Child: i'm not trying to be completely comprehensive... i'm more interested in general system changes
20:50.25Thunder_Childfail
20:50.55jona_0094found the problem mentalpower was just my big fingers making spelling mistakes
20:51.03Esamynnwait a second, when were the API functions SetACtionSelfCastKey() and SetAutoLootToggleKey() actually removed entirely, and not just from the default config UI?
20:51.21Maldiviaremoved entirely
20:51.22MentalPower2.2
20:51.39Esamynnany idea why?
20:51.45Maldivianew API for it
20:51.53cog|workEsamynn: RTFPN
20:51.54MentalPowerMaldivia: yes, and yes
20:51.56Esamynnahh, I missed that
20:52.01cog|work:P
20:52.18Esamynn<PROTECTED>
20:52.18purlwhips cog|work with a wet and grimy noodle just because
20:52.22cog|workfoxlit: i'm not entirely certain i would consider that deprecated. Using the bag and slot attributes does have a semantic advantage in certain situations and there's no disadvantage to the old ones
20:52.32MaldiviaMentalPower: I wish I had your powers, so I knew what you was saying yes to :)
20:52.40foxlitcog|work: comments in lua suggest its deprecated
20:52.46cog|workhmm
20:52.52cog|work~win foxlit
20:52.53purlCongratulations, foxlit! You have won a lifetime supply of spam!
20:53.04MentalPowerMaldivia: [16:49:30]<Maldivia>cogwheel: are the old spell events still there, if so are they considered deprecated?
20:53.14MaldiviaMentalPower: ahh, ok :)
20:53.35Esamynnahh, ModifiedClick, right...
20:54.29MentalPowerlol
20:56.37dreamssgod engineers in tf2 are OP
20:57.54foxlitcounterbalance with demopeople?
20:58.04Cidenot really, dreamss
20:58.58dreamsswhen the sentry gun gets fully upgraded it can 1 shot anyone
20:59.26Cideum
20:59.30Thunder_Childno
20:59.30Cideit can't 1 shot anything
20:59.35Thunder_Childmaybe a scout...
20:59.40Cidenot even that
20:59.44dreamssthe rockets?
20:59.45dreamssyeah
20:59.57Cidethe rockets are not instant and also aren't fired very often
21:01.08Intangirare the test servers up?
21:02.25foxlitAny pretty ways to get all matches for a specific pattern into a table, or do I have to iterate gmatch?
21:06.25Thunder_Childyu0 4r3 73h ubz0r 1337 7r011
21:06.25Thunder_Childm4y yu0r 5p1r17 11v3 0n 1n 411 73h p33 733 4rr f0rum5
21:06.50foxlitI'm amazed nobody made an addon on the premise of softlinking your music directory to your addons folder
21:07.12foxlit(probably because it's potentially disastrous in windows)
21:07.19Saint-N<PROTECTED>
21:07.33Saint-Nsoftlinks in winders is ass ;P
21:07.40Finwas it someone here who was complaining about smileys in Opera chat?
21:08.16zenzelezzdidn't GTA3 allow you to put a Windows shortcut to your music folder into some subfolder of GTA's, to add them to the in-game custom radio channel?
21:08.28Thunder_Childyes zenzelezz
21:08.39Thunder_Childoh..wait i dunno about a shortuc
21:08.40foxlitBut that's special support
21:08.43Thunder_Childshortcut*
21:09.04foxlitStill think there is a mechanism to softlink something in windows
21:09.07foxlitIt's just very evil
21:10.11Intangirwhat?
21:10.17Intangirtheres no softlinking in windows
21:11.45foxlithttp://shell-shocked.org/article.php?id=284
21:11.51PolarinaSaint-N: And Linux.
21:11.52foxlitDisagrees with you.
21:11.53Saint-Nthere is "sorta"
21:12.04Saint-NPolarina: yeah nix absed it works awesome
21:12.07Saint-Nbased
21:12.07cog|workO.o
21:12.13cog|work404 error on fedex.com/Tracking
21:12.43foxlit404: Your Package Not Found
21:13.16Saint-Ncog gets that a lot
21:13.35cog|workzing
21:13.59Saint-N~rimshot
21:13.59purlba-dum CHH
21:14.15hastehttp://bildr.no/view/108796
21:14.22Saint-Nya know what the biggest hassle making cycircled stuff is
21:14.47Saint-Nmaking the mistake of "editting" the 64x64 pic instead of the larger pic
21:15.04Saint-Njust figured out thats why a few of the new ones i did dont look as good
21:15.49cog|worki'm rather fond of http://bash.org/?797153 myself
21:16.52foxlitYou are "Math Boy" // Doer of math // Unable to integrate with society. Only with functions of x
21:17.30Saint-Nso after playing with this thingy i'd reccomend anyone that wants a decent 4g(with SD support for 4g flash cards) mp3, ebook, video player, radio, recorder.. to get this supertalent vidego
21:17.52Saint-Nfor 100$ ;)
21:18.15Saint-Nthe only thing that the nano video has over it is native h.264 support for video
21:18.21foxlitSaint-N: provide the price of a 4g SD card, recorder format specs and video player specs
21:18.30foxlit(gb, ffs)
21:18.43foxlit(or even GB)
21:18.45Saint-Ngonna have to test the recorder out
21:18.54Saint-Nit's only a voice recrder, like on most phones these days
21:18.57Saint-Nrecorder
21:19.10Saint-N4gb SD cards are about 80$ or so
21:19.16Saint-Nit's a miniSD
21:19.47Saint-Nthe video player has this little software thingy that comes in the package to convert to 320x240 30fps standard
21:20.01Saint-Nsound quality and video quality for a 2"x2.5" screen are decent
21:20.13foxlitSo what's the codec?
21:20.17Saint-Nno artifacts etc, the audio is nice and crisp(mp3s as well)
21:20.28Saint-Ndont have gspot at work
21:20.36Saint-Ni'll check that when i get home
21:20.40Saint-Nim guessing 600kbit divx
21:21.07Saint-Nand i dont have any videos handy at work to convert and check
21:21.19Saint-Ngonna test one of the standard usenet xvid releases when im at home as well
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21:21.45Saint-Nbut the one video that i did a test convert was about 76mb for 20 or so mins
21:21.58Saint-Ntook roughly 10-15mins to convert
21:23.42Saint-Npersonally while h264 offers great quality on a 2.5" screen it's kind of a "technophile" addition as a standard divx 600kbit range encode offers about the same filesize and display quality at that res
21:24.07Saint-Nthen against i also think that getting a 15" HDTV is retarded ;P
21:24.21Saint-Nnothing under 40 is worth the effort to carry it home
21:26.29cog|workupdate:
21:26.31cog|work"English: Tracking/Signature Proof of Delivery is temporarily unavailable. We are making some changes that we hope will improve your online experience with FedEx. Please try again later."
21:26.50Saint-Nhehe i love those type of notes
21:26.55cog|workbullshit... someone tripped over the server's power cord and now you guys are scrambling to boot the system back up
21:27.08cog|work:P
21:27.12Saint-N"hi we're inconviencing you to improve the site so itdoesnt suck, try again later and it might work better"
21:30.20JoshBorkehow many of you guys are sys admins?
21:34.36Cidaner
21:34.39Cidansys admins of what?
21:34.41Cidanlol
21:34.46Cidanfor a living?
21:35.25JoshBorkeaye
21:35.41JoshBorkegd, my vs 2005 sp1 is STILL going
21:35.58Valaron|WorkI am.
21:35.59JoshBorkeat least it's only been an hour
21:36.02CidanI don't think I could ever be a sys admin
21:36.25foxlitJosh: boo
21:36.27KaydeethreeI'm already a BOFH. I'd rather not start killing users by actually becoming a sysadmin
21:36.32foxlitYou could've installed Express+Patch in that time
21:36.43Thunder_ChildKaydeethree i call shenanagins
21:36.55JoshBorkewhat is express?  and i have to use VS for my class
21:37.03Thunder_Childshenanigans*
21:37.09Cideportal credits song: http://surl.se/picture/200710/136784.mp3
21:37.18Cidereally awesome song
21:37.28KaydeethreeI've been hearing a lot about it
21:37.39foxlithttp://msdn2.microsoft.com/en-us/express/default.aspx
21:37.54foxlitCide: yeah, I wanted that!
21:38.16JoshBorkefoxlit: i have to use VS for CE development
21:39.26Saint-Nwonder what neat new things are coming in this months action pack
21:40.27foxlitAwesome game, awesome ending song
21:40.43foxlitThink there was a custom level option in the menu somewhere?
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21:42.21Cidecustom level option?
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21:42.58Kaydeethreelmao @ portal credits
21:43.17foxlitCide: not sure, think there was a menu entry to that effect. I may have misread/misremembered
21:44.16foxlitEnding is cute, though. That last room contained more AI cores?
21:46.01Cidanshh
21:46.04Cidannot everyone has beat it
21:46.04Cidanbut
21:46.09Cidanthe .fgd will be out soon
21:46.16CidanI'll likely start cranking out some maps for it
21:46.39foxlitIt's not a real spoiler, anyhow
21:46.58foxlitCan't see it coming, and time between it becomes imaginable to it being shown on screen is low
21:47.17CidanIf there is anyone like me in here, we can jump to conclusions just by hearing a few key words and figuring out the plot
21:47.23CidanWe've already said too much, :P
21:47.35foxlitAh "Bonus Maps" was what I was thinking of
21:49.15foxlitWTB next week's ZP today
21:50.31JoshBorkeok, so i thought the bleach movie was the worst movie i'd ever seen
21:50.42JoshBorkei'm 3/4 through Until Death, and it is so much worse
21:52.14JoshBorkejean claude movies used to be ok because they had so much action, but this one just plain sucks
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21:59.48Saint-Nthats too bad
21:59.53Saint-Nthe series seems decent enough
22:00.13Saint-Nthere are some super boring parts and im really getting sick of the arrogant hero theory
22:00.46Saint-Nit's funny in FMA but in most of the others they sound like luke skywalker and i want them to die horribledeaths
22:01.33Saint-Nas a completely random sidenote too has anyone seen hellsing 3 OVA released anywhere recently?
22:01.52Kaydeethreesome no-name group subbed it iirc, think that's all I've seen
22:02.04Saint-Ndang
22:02.10Saint-Ni want dubbed
22:02.27Saint-Nim too familiar with the us voices
22:02.34KaydeethreeI know it's been licensed for r1, dunno if anyone's done it yet, though
22:02.47Saint-Ni heard geneon is dumping it too
22:02.58Saint-Nwonder whos gonna pick up the us versions for the rest of the series
22:03.16dreamssyeah it was on the newsgroups saint
22:03.22Cidanoh
22:03.28Cidanis the OVA any good?
22:03.29Saint-Ndreamss: was it? i didnt see it this morning
22:03.40dreamssdiferent from the anime
22:03.42Saint-Nthe new hellsing keeps to the manga
22:03.51Kaydeethreefollows the manga, so oav++
22:03.52Cidancool
22:03.55Saint-Nyeah
22:03.59Saint-Nthe manga ruled
22:04.11hasteit's finally complete?
22:04.12CidanAt first I was all like, YEAH MORE HELLSING PLZ, like, I had wished the original episodes continued
22:04.13Saint-Nthe first release of hellsing, while cool, didnt make all that much sense past episode 1
22:04.15Saint-Nerr 3
22:04.32Cidanbut after seeing Bleach, ya know, maybe that wasn't such a good idea
22:04.34Kaydeethreehaste; it's getting released once every blue moon
22:04.41CidanAlso, no, book 8 was just released in the US
22:05.06Saint-Nadult swim started running bebop again
22:05.11Saint-Ngod i love that series
22:05.32dreamssdude no shit
22:05.53Saint-Nknocking on heavens door is possibly my fav anime movie of all time
22:05.58hasteKaydeethree: pfft, only two years between 7 and 8
22:06.08hasteand three months since 8
22:06.15dreamss26 eps and a movie
22:06.16haste*orders*
22:06.19dreamssit was perfect
22:06.22Saint-Nyup
22:06.37Saint-Nthe ed and faye leave episode made me sooo sad
22:06.50Saint-Nits almost as touching as the futurama fry'd dog ending
22:07.05Saint-Nwhich is still the most heart wrenching cartoon ending ever created
22:07.09dreamssoh god
22:07.28dreamsskickass endings
22:07.43Saint-Nand the last 2 eps of bebop  were done so amazingly
22:07.55Saint-Nawesome
22:08.00dreamssballad of the fallen anges was awesome too
22:08.12dreamssalso they never said if he spike died or not
22:08.13dreamsslove it
22:08.17Saint-Nheh my neighbors had a corgie
22:08.32Saint-Ni dont know what its real name was cuz i kept calling it ein
22:08.52Saint-Nyeah
22:08.55Saint-Nthey left it open
22:09.08Saint-Nand champloo(same guy) is great as well
22:10.05dreamssgreat animes
22:10.29Saint-Ni should rewatch the lodoss war again sometime
22:10.44Saint-Nhehe and i have excel saga at work for when i get super bored
22:10.53dreamssthere was a kickass lodoss of war game for the dreamcast
22:11.02Saint-Nyup it's in my binder
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22:11.42dreamsssadly the cowboy bebop game on psx wasent that great
22:11.43lolinternetis there a way to increase WoW's grass rendering range?
22:11.47lolinternetpisses me off to no end
22:12.00Saint-Nchange yer look distance to max?
22:12.12dreamssterrain distance setting?
22:12.14Saint-Nor hax the config file to extend past that
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22:14.15dreamssSaint-N, speak like a child was a kickass episode too
22:14.20dreamssvery sad
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22:15.06Saint-Nwhihc one was that?
22:15.18dreamsssympaty for the devil too
22:15.33dreamsschild faye recorded videos/faye back story
22:16.02Saint-Nyeah the whole series+movie were just so well done.. if it werent for all the fights and space stuff it's almost believeable as a real live action
22:16.20Saint-Nspeaking of whihc i wonder how badly beowulf is gonna make me wanna kill things
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22:20.18cladhairecan you register events, and registerfordrag during combat on secure buttons?
22:20.26cladhairei can't see why you wouldn't be able to.. but doesn't anyone know?
22:20.45Cidanyou can register events yes
22:20.50Saint-Nbut if this picture does well you see we're sure to go for number 3 it wont be long until part 3
22:20.55cladhairethanks.
22:20.56Saint-Nreturn of the killer tomatos!
22:21.01Saint-Npart 2 of only 2 parts!
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22:21.25Saint-Nhey clad does cart1 work right for you?
22:21.31cladhairei don't use cart
22:21.33cladhaireTomTom ftw
22:21.36Saint-Nmeta?
22:21.41cladhaireTomTom
22:21.41Saint-Ntomtom is a map?
22:21.50Saint-Ni thought it was just a poi thingy
22:21.51cladhairethe default UI has a map ;l-)
22:21.55cladhaireTomTom handles pois on the mpa
22:22.06Saint-Nyes but the default ui doesnt have a smaller sized map that is transperant ;P
22:22.29cladhaireyou could code that yourself in a few lines!
22:22.33cladhairedon't need all the other cruft to do it
22:22.38Saint-Nhrm i need to remember to talk to whoever did the ace2 override
22:22.44Saint-Nreally?
22:22.51Saint-Ngo make that for me then
22:22.54cladhairenope
22:22.55Saint-Ni'd love you forever
22:22.56cladhaireworking on the book, sorry
22:23.00Saint-Noh
22:23.07Saint-Nokay when you get bored of that then
22:23.27Saint-Njust remember i'd love a resizeable map that i can change transperancy on
22:23.33Saint-Nthats really all i need
22:23.42Saint-Nmeta is just umm
22:23.46Saint-Noverkill
22:24.02Saint-Ncart1 is sorta broken, cart2 uses rock and that makes me sad
22:24.23zenzelezz..?
22:25.51Saint-Ncart1 doesnt seemto do all the normal cart stuff, it only displays the fullscreen map and none of the "plugins" are operational
22:26.06Saint-Nand im morally opposed to rock ;)
22:26.27zenzelezzwhy?
22:26.46Saint-Ncuz ace does what i want
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22:27.01Saint-Ni dont really need another lib collection for 2 addons
22:27.30Saint-Nits a personal thing mor than anything
22:27.38Saint-Nhas nothing to do with performance
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22:28.04Saint-Nkind of like people that think bangnon is the best thing and bongos sucks crap
22:30.25JoshBorkecartoace still exists
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22:30.41JoshBorkeor should i say exists?
22:31.25lolinternetSTOP
22:31.26lolinternetSTOP
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22:31.28lolinternetSHUT YOUR MOUTH
22:31.34lolinternethttp://www.smashbros.com/en_us/index.html
22:31.47JoshBorke...
22:31.51lolinterneterm
22:31.52JoshBorke~lart lolinternet
22:31.52purlsays "boot to the head" and knocks lolinternet over
22:31.53lolinternetwait
22:31.54lolinternetwrong link
22:31.57lolinternetshut up JoshBorke
22:31.57JoshBorkelol
22:32.03lolinternethere is the right link:
22:32.04lolinternethttp://www.smashbros.com/en_us/characters/sonic.html
22:32.07Cidanyes
22:32.12Cidanwelcome to 5 hours ago sag
22:32.14Cidanchrist
22:32.16lolinternetfuck you
22:32.18lolinternetasshole
22:32.19lolinternet:(
22:32.20CidanI only spammed it like 20 times
22:32.26Cidanand no one even gave a shit
22:32.33lolinternetshut up
22:32.35lolinternetit's SONIC
22:32.35lolinternetVS
22:32.36lolinternetMARIO
22:32.37lolinternetjesus
22:32.38CidanI know
22:32.41CidanI'm excited too
22:32.50Cidanand on line play through the fucking retarded friend code system?
22:32.55CidanWhat's that?  Voice chat?  nope!
22:33.09CidanRandom match making? Sure!  (but you can't see the names of who you are fighting)
22:33.15CidanFine, at least some text chat?
22:33.16CidanNope!
22:33.34CidanFucking family friendly Nintendo will kill gaming on that console.
22:33.44CidanWhich is why I say, the PS3 will win big in the end.
22:33.57lolinterneti don't care.
22:34.00lolinternetit's sonic
22:34.00lolinternetvs
22:34.01lolinternetmario
22:34.10lolinterneti can finally beat the ever loving shit out of mario with sonic.
22:34.15JoshBorkelol
22:37.55Temholy cow that was intense
22:38.00Tem23 minute 2v2 match
22:38.11lolinternetlaw
22:38.12lolinternet*lawl
22:38.47cladhaire*** If you play on enUS realms, please log onto Draka Horde.. we're forming a raid on both sides for testing purposes ***
22:38.54cladhairethe last raid has been active since patch 1.6
22:39.01cladhairemakes it really easy to test raid code
22:39.22JoshBorkesec clad
22:39.23lolinternetwhat.
22:39.24JoshBorkei'll log in
22:39.25cladhairesend me a tell on Cladhaire, and let me know you're coing
22:39.25lolinternetcladhaire what.
22:39.26cladhairecoming
22:40.01lolinternetcladhaire: addon testing raid? :X
22:40.09lolinternetor what
22:40.12cladhaireyes
22:40.16JoshBorkeit's too complicated for lolinternet
22:40.19JoshBorkewe'll just let it slide
22:40.20cladhaireits a raid
22:40.28cladhairethat our Draka alts are in
22:40.35cladhaireso we can test code that needs the player to be in a raid
22:40.40cladhairewithout having to make one on our real characters
22:40.45IntangirTem: we had a 45 minute arena match few daysa ago
22:40.47lolinternet:O
22:40.47Intangir45 minutes!
22:40.54Intangirof a warlock chasing a shaman around pillars
22:40.58Temhehe
22:41.24cladhaireeff druids man
22:41.27cladhairethat's what i have to say
22:41.32lolinternetcladhaire.
22:41.34cladhairei want to stab resto druids in teh face.
22:41.36lolinternetstop the QQ.
22:41.38lolinternetbecause
22:41.43lolinternetsonic is in smash bros brawl.
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22:41.45lolinternetso
22:41.47lolinternetdon't QQ
22:41.53cladhaireI am a resto druid
22:41.56cladhaireso i can QQ all i want
22:41.59lolinternetno
22:42.00cladhaireactually i'm feral
22:42.01JoshBorkeisn't there supposed to be a guild on draka too?
22:42.03cladhaireBUT I COULD RESPEC
22:42.07cladhaireJoshBorke: yes, i can invite you
22:42.10JoshBorkeinvite barm
22:42.13lolinternetbecause sonic is in ssbb
22:42.18lolinternetthus: you are not allowed to QQ
22:42.28JoshBorkehuh?
22:42.30*** kick/#wowi-lounge [lolinternet!n=cladhair@WoWUIDev/WoWI/Featured/Dongle/cladhaire] by cladhaire (I KNOW SONIC AND HE SAID I COULD)
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22:42.42cladhaireAnyone else logging into Draka or can I log for the moment?
22:42.58cladhaireI'll be up for a few more hours, so ping me if you want to join either the alliance or horde raid/guild
22:43.27lolinternetcladhaire that is a a lie
22:43.32cladhaireNO
22:43.34cladhaireU LIE
22:43.34lolinterneti have a sonic 2 module right next to me
22:43.37lolinternethe said you are wrong
22:43.40Cidandoes anyone here have a Wii and a bluetooth keyboard?
22:43.44lolinternetand a liar
22:43.45lolinternet:(
22:43.47cladhairedo you speak hedgehog?
22:43.48cladhairecause i do.
22:43.52lolinternetyeah well
22:43.54cladhaireGOD
22:43.57lolinternettoo bad sonic doesn't
22:44.05lolinternethe speaks english last time i checked
22:44.06lolinternet:P
22:44.28cladhairemaybe to people he doesn't trust
22:44.29cladhairenub
22:45.01lolinternetheh
22:45.04lolinternetcladhaire
22:45.29lolinternetyou know what?
22:45.30lolinternetyour mom.
22:45.30cladhaireJoshBorke: you can just camp
22:45.33cladhairedon't need to alt-f4
22:45.37cladhaireSHES A NICE LADY
22:45.43lolinternetyour mom
22:45.49cladhaire:P
22:45.49JoshBorkei thought i was done updating VS
22:45.51lolinternetyour mom
22:45.52JoshBorkeand then the bar reset
22:45.58JoshBorkei actually let out a little tear
22:48.07lolinternetyou know who else let out a little tear earlier?
22:48.09lolinternetyour mom.
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22:57.06JoshBorkei hate how slow itunes is
22:58.05cladhaireanyone familiar with Mery, the MapNotes2 author?
22:58.46JoshBorkeno, but i don't know a mary either
22:58.54cladhairethere's something about her.
22:59.30Thunder_Childgah
22:59.34Thunder_Child~lart cladhaire
22:59.34purlplops cladhaire into a giant vat of herring
22:59.38cladhairelol
22:59.51JoshBorkei heard she was a good lay
23:01.47JoshBorkeseriously, wtf is going on.  "Time remaining: 0 seconds", there's nothing in the progress bar
23:08.43JoshBorkeYES!  I"M DONE!
23:09.38Cidanthank god
23:09.42Cidannow you can stop your bitching
23:09.43Cidan:D
23:09.45JoshBorkeyep
23:09.53JoshBorkei'm just gonna go cry in the corner
23:10.14CidanI really wish they would put Portal into the SDK already
23:10.18CidanI want to make some maps
23:13.27Cidanactually... I can start on the map now and just place my structure
23:13.31Cidanthen edit the map later!
23:13.33CidanI'm so smrt!
23:13.48JoshBorkewtf is portal?
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23:14.21JoshBorketuller:  fix bongos. kthxbai
23:14.22Thunder_Childgame
23:14.30Thunder_ChildHL2 Enginge
23:14.33Thunder_Childengine*
23:14.50JoshBorkekk
23:15.03JoshBorkeTuller: j/k
23:15.22Mr_Rabies2there was a garry's mod map that had really badly designed portals (and a portal gun that worked pretty well was later made)
23:15.33Mr_Rabies2the portals were like, mirrors more or less, physical objects
23:15.45Mr_Rabies2i put one portal through the other and crashed the game
23:18.36lolinternetlol
23:19.02lolinternetactually i'm waiting for someone to hack/diassemble portal
23:19.03lolinternet:X
23:19.21lolinternet(not as in ASM disassemble, as in take apart)
23:20.34Cidanthey already have
23:20.39Cidanthey extraced all the assets
23:20.46Cidanand the .fgd for mapping
23:20.47Cidanetc
23:20.58Cidanbut I'm waiting for the SDK
23:23.27Thunder_Child*snicker* http://www.duelinganalogs.com/?date=2007-09-30
23:34.58PolarinaSomeone change the topic.
23:35.38mikmaerrrr, how can you eat and drink stuff in arena when your team is Paladin & Rogue??
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23:36.11PolarinaCairenn: Could you update the topic?
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23:36.26Cairennwhat needs updating?
23:36.36Polarina2.2.3 ToC: 20200
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23:36.59*** topic/#wowi-lounge by Cairenn -> #wowi-lounge: Paste Code Here: http://wowi.pastey.net | 2.2.x ToC: 20200 | RTFPN please | WoWI Mod Uploader! http://www.wowinterface.com/forums/showthread.php?t=12821
23:37.05Polarina...
23:37.21Thunder_Child*snicker*
23:37.44PolarinaYou know that 2.2.4, for example, could bring some API changes.
23:37.46Cairennwell, 2.2.x is always going to be 20200, so really ....
23:37.58Thunder_Childthey dont have a 2.2.4 planed
23:38.11PolarinaOk.
23:38.18Thunder_Child"At present there is no 2.2.4 planned. A 2.2.4 could come into existence based on feedback from 2.2.3 players, but at present one is not planned and 2.3.0 is next up. Still not saying when."
23:38.19Polarina2.3 is comming next week?
23:38.51Temlol?
23:38.54ScytheBlade1lol.
23:40.00PolarinaAnd there'll be no 2.5.
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23:41.48Guillotineo.O
23:42.37Guillotineis there any way to get the player's faction (e.g. Alliance or Horde) reliably before PLAYER_ENTERING_WORLD?
23:44.15Thunder_Childcache it?
23:45.49ScytheBlade1I don't believe that would be "reliable"
23:45.59ScytheBlade1ie, multiple computers
23:46.09cladhairefaction is always available.
23:46.22cladhaireslouken made it so quit a while ago, afaik
23:46.28cladhaireif not, you can do a lookup based on UnitRace()
23:46.31cladhaireone of the two is always available.
23:46.35CorrodiasEXCEPT when you want it
23:46.39Corrodiaswhenever that may be
23:46.44Corrodiasat that time, it becomes unavailable
23:53.21Guillotinelol
23:53.30Guillotinecladhaire: ty :) I'll update WoWWiki on that then
23:53.39cladhairewell verify it to :P
23:53.51cladhaireeasiest way is to make an addon print it during addon load in the main .lua file
23:53.54cladhaireand start from fresh wow
23:55.39dreamssholly balls tf2 is fun
23:57.21Corrodiasmy xperl MT's frame shrank with a recent version
23:57.26Corrodiasit is tiny now
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23:58.08CorrodiasXPerl_Frame:GetScale() is .4. i don't know why.

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