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| 00:01.19 | Wobwork | well |
| 00:01.22 | Wobwork | there you go |
| 00:01.23 | Wobwork | http://www.thepittsburghchannel.com/news/14181828/detail.html |
| 00:01.30 | Wobwork | lady ninjas are afoot =\ |
| 00:01.57 | TS|Skrom_ | wouldn't lady ninja's be ladies? or perhaps ninjas? |
| 00:02.20 | Mr_Rabies2 | you know |
| 00:02.25 | Kaydeethree | woo, good thing I reserved posts in the sticky. have to use post #2 now |
| 00:02.42 | Mr_Rabies2 | i almost said "i once saw a porn on that very subject" but that applies to most anything, really |
| 00:03.15 | Corrodias | oddly, after updating my ace addons and a couple of others noted on wowinterface (and NOT x-perl yet), everything appears to be mostly functional |
| 00:03.17 | TS|Skrom_ | rule 34? |
| 00:03.57 | TS|Skrom_ | sir, you don't verily mean to suggest that the sky is indeed NOT falling do you? |
| 00:04.43 | Sixen | Uh.. I could've sworn Cog posted a thread about reading the stickies.. |
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| 00:04.56 | TS|Skrom_ | well, yeah, it's tuesday |
| 00:05.52 | Corrodias | indeed, i'm up and running pretty great! |
| 00:05.59 | Corrodias | but then, i read the sticky |
| 00:06.05 | Mike-N-Go | Anyone know the conversion, how many +to crit does it take for a level 70 to get a % of crit? |
| 00:06.12 | Valaron|Work | 1 |
| 00:06.18 | Valaron|Work | 2? |
| 00:06.24 | Corrodias | eleventy? |
| 00:06.29 | TS|Skrom_ | check wowwiki.com I think they have current formulas |
| 00:06.29 | Valaron|Work | 99? |
| 00:06.34 | Kaydeethree | http://www.wowwiki.com/Rating |
| 00:06.38 | Mike-N-Go | Corrodias: I second that notion. |
| 00:06.58 | TS|Skrom_ | I second that e-motion! |
| 00:07.51 | Kaydeethree | what's the druid /cancelform command? |
| 00:08.00 | Kaydeethree | is it "/cancelform"? |
| 00:08.04 | TS|Skrom_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:08.06 | Esamynn | try it :P |
| 00:08.33 | art3mis | boobies \o/ |
| 00:08.37 | Corrodias | but don't use it in caster form! |
| 00:08.38 | Mike-N-Go | I believe it also takes prmaters, in numbers. |
| 00:08.47 | Corrodias | if you do, you'll turn into a gnome |
| 00:09.01 | TS|Skrom_ | and then you'd need to use /wrists |
| 00:09.03 | Mike-N-Go | To only cancel spific forms. |
| 00:09.05 | sysrage | anybody happen to have somewhere i can download KLH 20.4 from quickly just me so i can put it on my guilds site so they can get it there? |
| 00:09.07 | art3mis | so i think later on im gonna rebuild my ui from the ground up again |
| 00:09.15 | Valaron|Work | Ok.. going to go home, so I can start my own thread about why Blizzard hates us so much at patch time. |
| 00:09.23 | Kaydeethree | sysrage; I could point you at omen if you like... |
| 00:09.28 | art3mis | sysrage get omen and threat1.0 youll be happier ;P |
| 00:09.31 | Corrodias | um... no idea, sysrage. i used omen, which is accessible via WAU :( |
| 00:09.34 | sysrage | i'd appreciate it kaydeethree |
| 00:09.47 | art3mis | holychrist! |
| 00:09.56 | Mike-N-Go | art3mis: I second that notion. |
| 00:09.56 | art3mis | there is nothing wrong with my entire ui |
| 00:09.56 | Kaydeethree | http://files.wowace.com/Omen/Omen.zip |
| 00:10.05 | sysrage | oh. i read that wrong :P |
| 00:10.15 | art3mis | that means HKUI is compeltely compatible with 2.2 ;P |
| 00:10.19 | sysrage | i don't have time to teach a bunch of noobs how to use a new mod |
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| 00:11.23 | art3mis | therse no teaching |
| 00:11.30 | art3mis | they load it it displays they follow it |
| 00:11.53 | art3mis | and you can follow it with "now have a glass of Shut-TheHell-Up(tm)" |
| 00:12.19 | art3mis | omen is much better than klh |
| 00:12.23 | art3mis | updates more often |
| 00:12.26 | art3mis | more accurate |
| 00:12.39 | art3mis | and you can bitch directly at antiarc in #wowace when it throws errors |
| 00:12.45 | art3mis | what more do you need ;) |
| 00:13.21 | Mike-N-Go | ~emulate art3mis |
| 00:13.21 | purl | I'm not special enough |
| 00:14.09 | art3mis | purl knows what time it is |
| 00:14.28 | sysrage | i'm definitely going to try omen, but for tonight can anybody help me out? |
| 00:15.41 | art3mis | hahaha |
| 00:15.52 | art3mis | the interview on curse with ckk is rated 2 stars ;P |
| 00:16.13 | ckknight | yea, and people's comments who have said it was a good interview were rated down |
| 00:16.18 | ckknight | last I saw |
| 00:16.34 | art3mis | heh thats just kind of funny that an interview can be rated |
| 00:16.48 | art3mis | sys |
| 00:16.50 | art3mis | 20.4 ? |
| 00:17.34 | sysrage | yes |
| 00:17.46 | Kody | [17:16] <art3mis> heh thats just kind of funny that an interview can be rated - it's the way the news system works |
| 00:17.58 | Mike-N-Go | "Pets are now affected by Paladin greater blessings." Whoot! |
| 00:18.38 | AnduinLothar | bout damn time |
| 00:18.46 | AnduinLothar | er. woot! |
| 00:19.51 | art3mis | kody: its still amusing "horrible interview the interviewer kept asking the wrong questions and spelt things incorrectly, dammit update this for 2.2!!" |
| 00:19.53 | art3mis | ;) |
| 00:19.56 | Lunessa | I'm such a fair-weather support geek. I'm not helping with patch day madness. |
| 00:20.19 | Industrial | what patch |
| 00:20.20 | Mike-N-Go | Can't change gear in an arena once the match has started, save for weapons, darn.. |
| 00:20.43 | ckknight | art3mis: Kody was the one who interviewed me |
| 00:20.53 | Industrial | Mike-N-Go: no more pre-round panty madness? |
| 00:20.54 | ckknight | art3mis: what would be the right questions? |
| 00:21.13 | art3mis | ckknight: im being sarcastic, that would be an example of someone rating it badly ;P |
| 00:21.20 | Mike-N-Go | Industrial: You can change in the one-minute prep time. |
| 00:22.38 | Mike-N-Go | Also, I like the redesign on Aspect of the Viper. Now, give me Viper Sting that leaches mana to me ;) |
| 00:24.17 | art3mis | Mike-N-Go: right after priest mana burn gives us mana at the rate the lock version does ;P |
| 00:24.36 | Mike-N-Go | =[ |
| 00:25.15 | art3mis | sorry sys |
| 00:25.29 | art3mis | i cant get klh off of curse and not a single guild on my server uses it |
| 00:25.53 | sysrage | lol thanks anyway |
| 00:27.38 | art3mis | correction 2 servers ;) |
| 00:29.08 | Kody | is it not starting the download? |
| 00:29.33 | art3mis | cant laod the page |
| 00:29.38 | Kody | http://www.curse.com/downloads/details/4204/download/38519/ try that |
| 00:29.44 | art3mis | times out at "waiting for curse |
| 00:29.54 | Kody | hm k sec |
| 00:30.02 | art3mis | oh wait it gave me a 503 |
| 00:30.30 | art3mis | its sysrage that needs to dump it on his guild page though |
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| 00:51.05 | Wobwork | ... |
| 00:51.12 | Wobwork | Inciter's partywide MC... |
| 00:51.22 | Wobwork | if he pops you cloak of shadows, does that break the mc? |
| 00:51.34 | Wobwork | I've never noticed that happen... (the breaking) |
| 00:51.44 | zenzelezz | don't think anything can break it manually |
| 00:51.52 | Wobwork | well not manually |
| 00:52.03 | Wobwork | but if inciter pops the cloak |
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| 00:52.27 | zenzelezz | good question. Don't think so |
| 00:53.12 | Mike-N-Go | Cloak of shadows, OP.. |
| 00:53.32 | Wobwork | I'm fairly sure I've had him pop clos |
| 00:53.45 | Wobwork | but I don't recall if it broke the mc |
| 00:54.33 | art3mis | Wobwork: nope |
| 00:54.37 | Legorol | morning folks |
| 00:54.45 | Legorol | so, how does the patch feel :) |
| 00:54.51 | art3mis | ive had him pop my insignia of the horde that supposedly breaks charm |
| 00:54.58 | art3mis | does nothing cept blow the CD |
| 00:55.03 | Kaydeethree | tooltip bugs are biting everyone in the ass again |
| 00:55.08 | Mike-N-Go | Insiciter is OP, he can MC yah even if you are in the first room. |
| 00:55.19 | art3mis | not me kay |
| 00:55.21 | Wobwork | yeah, that's what I thought =) |
| 00:55.26 | art3mis | not a single thing in my entire ui is broken |
| 00:55.55 | art3mis | maybe you need HKUI ;) |
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| 01:12.02 | art3mis | boobies! |
| 01:12.06 | art3mis | \o/ |
| 01:12.09 | bleeter | oO |
| 01:12.12 | bleeter | gimmeh! |
| 01:12.21 | art3mis | hrm |
| 01:12.28 | art3mis | so lets see metamap instead of cart |
| 01:12.40 | art3mis | sct instead of parrot |
| 01:13.14 | Wobwork | bleeter: those are some mismatched boobies, right there... |
| 01:13.30 | bleeter | Wobwork: most boobies are |
| 01:13.31 | art3mis | a large orgami swan instead of chicken |
| 01:13.59 | art3mis | need some new and neat addons |
| 01:14.08 | art3mis | im bored of my standard non broken stuff |
| 01:14.15 | Wobwork | bleeter: not -that- mismatched |
| 01:14.29 | art3mis | Wobwork: in most cases its a full cup size if not 2 |
| 01:14.41 | Wobwork | "oO"? |
| 01:14.42 | bleeter | Wobwork: depends if the owner's jumping/jogging, too ;) |
| 01:14.53 | Wobwork | That's at least twice the size of the other |
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| 01:18.51 | frop | hallo |
| 01:19.01 | frop | someone with 2.2.x under linux? |
| 01:19.13 | Wobwork | I've yet to apply the patch |
| 01:19.14 | art3mis | what's linux? |
| 01:19.38 | Kaydeethree | frop; working fine here |
| 01:19.51 | frop | Kaydeethree: wow...what a good news |
| 01:19.52 | frop | :D |
| 01:20.01 | art3mis | quiet kraft dinner^3 |
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| 01:20.20 | Kaydeethree | make sure you've got at least wine 0.9.45 for sound, the crash on exit bug won't be getting fixed til .46 |
| 01:20.30 | frop | eheh |
| 01:20.34 | frop | not such a deal |
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| 01:20.49 | frop | btw...is "fullscreen" better than windowed mode? |
| 01:20.59 | art3mis | depends |
| 01:21.00 | frop | i got a bit sucky fps :P |
| 01:21.10 | frop | on a conroe with a 7600GT |
| 01:21.17 | Valaron | hai2u, nun of my marcos are wurkin. wut do i ned 2 do to fix this? plz halp! |
| 01:21.17 | frop | LOADs of ram |
| 01:21.34 | art3mis | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:21.36 | Kaydeethree | frop; yes! framerates are much better in fullscreen |
| 01:21.47 | art3mis | atis work better in windowed |
| 01:21.48 | frop | on a "separate" xserver? |
| 01:21.51 | Kaydeethree | wine users can cheat, though and have a windowed wow even though it thinks it's in full screen |
| 01:21.51 | art3mis | nvidia better FS |
| 01:22.19 | frop | Kaydeethree: WTF write down an howto somewhere :P |
| 01:23.22 | Kaydeethree | http://wowi.pastey.net/74407 |
| 01:23.31 | frop | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:23.32 | frop | extra/wine 0.9.44-1 |
| 01:23.35 | frop | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:23.36 | frop | fuck! |
| 01:23.44 | frop | wow...turbo howto :D |
| 01:24.05 | Kaydeethree | I've got that shellscript called "wow" in my ~/bin directory. got something similar for the PTR |
| 01:24.08 | Kaydeethree | love it |
| 01:24.55 | frop | eheh |
| 01:24.58 | frop | wine explorer /desktop=name,1152x864 Launcher.exe& |
| 01:25.22 | frop | the /desktop=etc is the "options" part to wine? |
| 01:25.54 | Kaydeethree | ya. as long as wine's in your path, you can run it as written |
| 01:26.13 | frop | aoss wine "D:\wow_offy\WoW.exe" |
| 01:26.16 | Kaydeethree | the /desktop bit is an argument for explorer, to be specific |
| 01:26.19 | frop | using something like this now |
| 01:26.31 | frop | ohh |
| 01:26.49 | Kaydeethree | so make it aoss wine explorer /desktop=name,1152x864 "D:\wow_offy\WoW.exe" |
| 01:26.55 | frop | yap |
| 01:27.04 | frop | thx very much |
| 01:27.17 | frop | but i don't think will work with .44 :P |
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| 01:27.24 | frop | btw...brb, patching |
| 01:32.28 | Legorol | woot! just saw this in the patch notes: |
| 01:32.31 | Legorol | Blackrock Spire: The gems for the Seal of Ascension are now a 100% drop from Overlord Wyrmthalak, War Master Voone and Highlord Omokk |
| 01:32.47 | Legorol | no more endless grindruns in LBRS for the seal |
| 01:32.54 | Legorol | aaaaaah, those were the days |
| 01:33.01 | frop | no more time to do "old" contents :P |
| 01:33.25 | Lunessa | Legorol: I know I'm going back and getting that key for all my 70s now. Just 'cause. |
| 01:33.52 | Legorol | i remember when you could get 5g for opening UBRS door :) |
| 01:33.59 | frop | aahaha |
| 01:33.59 | AnduinLothar | oi. those were the days i was guildless and pugging all my 5 man 60 instances |
| 01:34.07 | AnduinLothar | i got 20g a couple times |
| 01:34.24 | Legorol | 5-man? what about 10-man scholo/strat |
| 01:34.25 | Wobwork | huh, I should go get that last gem |
| 01:34.31 | Wobwork | I wonder if I can solo it =P |
| 01:34.32 | Legorol | and was it 15 or 20 man UBRS? can't remember |
| 01:34.37 | AnduinLothar | 15 |
| 01:34.37 | Wobwork | 10 |
| 01:34.39 | Legorol | yes you can, Wobwork |
| 01:34.46 | Legorol | UBRS is 10 now, but it used to be more |
| 01:34.51 | frop | btw...patched succesfully...seems...and sound working on wine .44 |
| 01:35.09 | Legorol | Wobwork: as a 70 prot warrior, i can solo every 5-man instance pre-TBC, with the exception of Scholo |
| 01:35.20 | AnduinLothar | i dont remember schoolo being 10 |
| 01:35.22 | Legorol | and that's because of those wretched ghosts that can only be hurt by magic >.< |
| 01:35.32 | Legorol | uh, my memory could be faulty |
| 01:35.37 | Legorol | i'm pretty sure strat was 10 though |
| 01:35.37 | AnduinLothar | i remember they nurfed it |
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| 01:35.43 | AnduinLothar | hard |
| 01:35.47 | Legorol | it's 5 today |
| 01:35.49 | AnduinLothar | but i thought it was always 5 |
| 01:35.56 | Legorol | no, those used to be doable in a raid |
| 01:36.01 | AnduinLothar | hmm |
| 01:36.04 | AnduinLothar | i spsoe |
| 01:36.04 | Legorol | you wouldn't get quests completed obviously |
| 01:36.13 | AnduinLothar | ah, yeah that musta been it |
| 01:37.02 | Legorol | WoW patch 1.0: |
| 01:37.03 | Legorol | High-Level Instance Changes |
| 01:37.04 | Legorol | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:37.04 | Legorol | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:37.04 | Legorol | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:37.04 | Legorol | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:37.04 | Legorol | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:37.06 | Legorol | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:37.08 | Legorol | <PROTECTED> |
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| 01:37.10 | Legorol | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:37.11 | Kaydeethree | ah, flood |
| 01:37.12 | Legorol | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:38.02 | Legorol | it's quite surprising that it was only done as late as 1.10 |
| 01:38.06 | Legorol | i could've sworn it was lot before that |
| 01:38.23 | Legorol | 1.10 brought, among other things, gold-as-quest-reward at level cap, and connected flight paths |
| 01:38.37 | Legorol | oh and weather |
| 01:38.42 | Legorol | it was quite a good patch :) |
| 01:38.53 | Kaydeethree | connected flight paths |
| 01:38.54 | Kaydeethree | <3 |
| 01:39.21 | Legorol | bah, they are outdated... epic flyer ftw |
| 01:39.24 | cogwheel | arghh!!! |
| 01:39.30 | Legorol | lol Codayus |
| 01:39.32 | cogwheel | I sent a fedex package from CA to CA |
| 01:39.37 | cogwheel | it's now in memphis TN |
| 01:39.38 | Legorol | s/Codayus/cogwheel/ |
| 01:39.46 | Legorol | ouch |
| 01:39.49 | Kaydeethree | that's par for the course for fedex |
| 01:39.58 | Kaydeethree | aren't they based in memphis? |
| 01:40.15 | Legorol | oh, 1.10 also brought relics |
| 01:40.16 | cogwheel | but the other package I sent from CA to CA on the same day on the same truck by the same shipping method is at its destination in CA |
| 01:40.21 | Legorol | seems like 1.10 was quite a patch |
| 01:41.00 | Legorol | oh, and it was a landmark on UI side too |
| 01:41.08 | Legorol | New API functions, for example: |
| 01:41.09 | Legorol | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:41.29 | Legorol | seems like 1.10 was a golden goodiebag :) |
| 01:41.55 | cogwheel | the shitty part is that the one in TN is the one I wanted to arrive asap. It's my RMA'ed RAM. the other one i could care less 'cause it's just going to be refunded onto a credit card. |
| 01:42.10 | cogwheel | couldn't |
| 01:43.07 | Shadowed | Anyone in a 3vs3 or 2vs2 team get points from that this week? If so, what was your rating/points gained? |
| 01:43.12 | cogwheel | Of course, it's times like these i'm glad I went with 4GB even before I had a 64-bit OS :P |
| 01:43.34 | Shadowed | Why exactly do you want 4GB? =p |
| 01:43.50 | cogwheel | because I can live without two of my sticks without suffering too badly |
| 01:43.56 | Shirik | I need 4GB >.> |
| 01:43.56 | Legorol | that's as much as a 32-bit OS can handle |
| 01:44.13 | Shirik | Crysis hates 2 right now |
| 01:44.14 | cogwheel | and most 32-bit os's can't even use it all because of memory-mapped hardware |
| 01:44.16 | Shadowed | using 2GB atm and don't see much reason to go to 3/4 GB |
| 01:44.31 | cogwheel | Shadowed: it makes a noticeable difference in Vista :P |
| 01:44.31 | Legorol | windows can't get up to 4GB *nod* |
| 01:44.38 | Shadowed | Yea, I'm not using Vista =p |
| 01:44.41 | Shirik | windows xp* |
| 01:44.41 | Legorol | but there isn't much point in getting 3 Gb or 3.5 Gb ;-) |
| 01:44.43 | Shadowed | nor do I have plans |
| 01:44.52 | Shirik | vista can get up to and over 4GB at 64 bit, obviously |
| 01:44.53 | cogwheel | XP 32-bit used to be able to handle 4gb with PAE enabled but they removed it in SP2 |
| 01:45.02 | Sixen | Anyone that wants to lend me a hand, feel free to go request a sticky: http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=1777874751 |
| 01:45.02 | cogwheel | because of driver problems |
| 01:45.03 | Legorol | Shirik: sorry, i was talking 32-bit OS |
| 01:45.03 | Sixen | =) |
| 01:45.09 | Legorol | should've made it clear |
| 01:45.35 | Legorol | cogwheel: interesting, didn't know that |
| 01:45.52 | Shadowed | eh? |
| 01:46.06 | Shadowed | odd, it didn't change the topic when kicked |
| 01:46.18 | Shirik | memory mapped i/o is ftl, btw |
| 01:46.21 | frop | vista...ehm... |
| 01:46.23 | cogwheel | of course it was heavily dependent on the chipset... usually it took a mobo with a 64-bit architecture or a server-class 32-bit one |
| 01:46.24 | frop | ...sucks |
| 01:46.25 | Shirik | unfortunately the dragon12 board I use uses it =( |
| 01:46.40 | Legorol | lol, curse croaked |
| 01:46.44 | Legorol | patchday load? |
| 01:46.48 | Kaydeethree | yes |
| 01:47.06 | Mike-N-Go | "Pets will no longer chase players that Vanish." Boo! |
| 01:47.22 | art3mis | http://koti.phnet.fi/juusor/ptr |
| 01:47.22 | Wobwork | Mike-N-Go: nono |
| 01:47.25 | Wobwork | "Yay!" |
| 01:47.29 | Mike-N-Go | I liked it when my pet would 'chase down' a rogue that vanished. |
| 01:47.34 | Wobwork | cheater |
| 01:47.37 | cogwheel | brb |
| 01:47.46 | Mike-N-Go | Wobwork: Exploiter, rather.. |
| 01:47.48 | Kaydeethree | forum cookie splat #1 |
| 01:47.54 | Kaydeethree | surprised it took this long |
| 01:48.02 | Wobwork | Mike-N-Go: same diff =P |
| 01:48.11 | Shadowed | Mike-N-Go, do you mean vanish or stealth? |
| 01:48.37 | Wobwork | technically they shouldn't chase if I stealth |
| 01:48.40 | Mike-N-Go | From http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/patchnotes/, sub part Bug Fixes. That is what it states. |
| 01:48.42 | Wobwork | unless they're close enough |
| 01:48.56 | Cairenn | amazed it took this long, but boom go the wow forums |
| 01:49.03 | Shadowed | lol |
| 01:49.13 | Mike-N-Go | Cairenn: What happend? |
| 01:49.22 | Kaydeethree | forums just went kaboom, no response at all |
| 01:49.26 | Legorol | art3mis: that looks very much like a private server, i'm not sure you want to be linking content from that here |
| 01:49.27 | *** join/#wowi-lounge cogwheel (n=chatzill@intra.kistlerwine.com) |
| 01:49.36 | Shadowed | Blizzards getting better |
| 01:49.39 | Wobwork | due to everyone refreshing over and over to see the point where the forums break =) |
| 01:49.40 | Cairenn | there you go cogwheel, all is right with the world again |
| 01:49.47 | Cairenn | cogwheel: wow ui forum down |
| 01:50.11 | Kaydeethree | woo, time for another beer |
| 01:50.25 | cogwheel | oh... they're struggling |
| 01:50.36 | Kaydeethree | wow, hortus is getting snippy: http://blue.cardplace.com/newcache/us/1777966029.htm |
| 01:50.47 | cogwheel | Cairenn: the mrs can't log into wow... perhaps that's why the forums are dead |
| 01:50.55 | Mike-N-Go | I hear, that Blizz. does not bother to buy extra bandwidth to help for patch days. |
| 01:51.08 | Shadowed | hortus the next tseric maybe |
| 01:51.22 | frop | Kaydeethree: http://nopaste.org/p/ay9WlcZa0 |
| 01:51.24 | Mike-N-Go | Thus locking up 'mannage account', to prevent people form canceling =P |
| 01:51.37 | Shadowed | lol |
| 01:52.25 | Legorol | i love it that hortus doens't need to be polite :) |
| 01:52.32 | Mike-N-Go | "The Thrall escort event now allows 20 tries at completing the event instead of 3." wow.. that is sure a lot of tries. |
| 01:52.52 | Legorol | there was this thread (don't have link atm) where a guy complained that he can't log in due to "invalid game version". hortus replied: now you get to reinstall the PTR, this time properly, following the stickied instructions |
| 01:53.02 | Mike-N-Go | I wonder what group would even use all 20 =/ |
| 01:53.02 | Legorol | Mike-N-Go: it's for heroic |
| 01:53.10 | Kaydeethree | Legorol, he posted that in my guide thread |
| 01:53.15 | Legorol | heroics hare a one-day reset |
| 01:53.17 | Mike-N-Go | Legorol: How did you figure that? |
| 01:53.24 | Legorol | *have |
| 01:53.28 | Kaydeethree | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=1778023998&pageNo=2&sid=1#23 |
| 01:53.55 | Legorol | Mike-N-Go: whilst not many would use up all 20, i can very well imagine heroics group that would go beyond 3 |
| 01:53.58 | Legorol | so it's a big woot |
| 01:54.21 | Mike-N-Go | Never done any CoT heroics; they are hard enough in normal.. |
| 01:54.30 | Legorol | they are insane in heroic |
| 01:54.45 | Legorol | take a 5-man Karazhan equipped party into heroic BM |
| 01:54.50 | Legorol | be happy if you take the 1st boss |
| 01:54.56 | Thelyna | did the wowi download server go boom? |
| 01:55.03 | Shadowed | it's just slow |
| 01:55.04 | Shadowed | give it a few minutes |
| 01:55.19 | Legorol | Kaydeethree: lol that was the one, thanks for linking it |
| 01:55.21 | Thelyna | Legorol: bring three good dps, a good tank and a good healer and it's easy |
| 01:55.29 | Shadowed | BM was fun |
| 01:55.33 | Legorol | Thelyna: we did have good ones |
| 01:55.41 | Legorol | well at least i can say the tank was good, as it was me :o) |
| 01:56.01 | Mike-N-Go | Shadowed: How did that go over? |
| 01:56.09 | Legorol | you couldn't have tanked it at 66 if the rest of the party wasn't wellgeared already |
| 01:56.10 | Shadowed | we almost beat the 11th portal |
| 01:56.15 | Legorol | BM was hard when you just hit 70 |
| 01:56.40 | Shadowed | or 12th, whichever had the boss |
| 01:57.06 | Mike-N-Go | Was unable to do it with a 70 pally tank, the other day.. |
| 01:57.12 | Legorol | BM was a problem for my guild, because it actually needed skill to complete in the early days of being 70 |
| 01:57.12 | Shadowed | well |
| 01:57.18 | Legorol | and not all of our members are skilled.. at all |
| 01:57.26 | Legorol | yet we wanted them to be able to poke into Karazhan |
| 01:57.28 | Shadowed | it was all with guildies, and we've been raiding together for a while/did naxx =p |
| 01:57.30 | cogwheel | brb again |
| 01:57.41 | Shadowed | hard part was just the fact that everything was being dodged/resisted, not paying attention |
| 01:57.53 | Shadowed | was one of those "It's late, we need something to do" kind of things |
| 01:57.53 | Mike-N-Go | Murmur is easy. |
| 01:58.10 | frop | just take someone that CAN manage the adds |
| 01:58.12 | *** join/#wowi-lounge cogwheel (n=chatzill@c-67-164-121-134.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) |
| 01:58.13 | Mike-N-Go | The hard part is keeping the group members from killing eachother. |
| 01:58.24 | Legorol | normal or heroic ;-) different mechanics |
| 01:58.32 | Shadowed | is anyone able to login on US? |
| 01:58.38 | frop | i'm EU |
| 01:58.42 | cogwheel | ~emulate cogwheel |
| 01:58.42 | purl | ACTION shakes its fist at the forums... http://ctscreens.net/5307 |
| 01:58.42 | Kaydeethree | forums went splat |
| 01:58.50 | cogwheel | my wife isn't |
| 01:58.52 | cogwheel | i haven't tried |
| 01:58.54 | cogwheel | I think the lack of logins is why the forums went splat |
| 01:58.55 | Legorol | EU only gets first set of voice chat in a week's time :( |
| 01:58.57 | Kaydeethree | once sec, I'll try now |
| 01:59.02 | Mike-N-Go | Legorol: Never done SL heroic; it is also hard enough on normal =P |
| 01:59.04 | Legorol | luckily, my realm is one of the few that gets it first :o) woot |
| 01:59.15 | Shadowed | US WoW, not US forums =p[ |
| 01:59.17 | cogwheel | well... time to go swimming... bbl |
| 01:59.35 | Shadowed | time to go knife people in the back |
| 01:59.39 | Shadowed | *2 |
| 01:59.41 | Mike-N-Go | I'm going to try to log on, if only to create more trafic =D |
| 01:59.44 | Kaydeethree | ya, auth is down |
| 01:59.52 | Shadowed | excellent, i don't need an excuse to not do work then |
| 02:00.11 | Mike-N-Go | Yay! Not working. |
| 02:00.52 | Mike-N-Go | Shadowed: I second that notion.. |
| 02:01.01 | Shadowed | which, not working or knifing people |
| 02:01.04 | frop | Mike-N-Go: SL is easy...when you're "well" geared |
| 02:01.20 | frop | is Sethekk Halls that's a nightmare :P |
| 02:01.22 | Mike-N-Go | frop: Isn't anything? |
| 02:01.25 | Wobwork | hehe, I recall a raidgeared warrior having rage issues in normal SL |
| 02:01.29 | Shadowed | smart people make dungeons easier |
| 02:01.31 | Shadowed | (amazing i know) |
| 02:01.31 | Shadowed | =D |
| 02:01.37 | Legorol | Wobwork: very much so |
| 02:01.39 | frop | TalonKing Ikiss is so fucker |
| 02:01.46 | Legorol | i can't do normal mode 5-mans in my raid gear anymore |
| 02:01.49 | frop | Mike-N-Go: no, isnt |
| 02:01.55 | Wobwork | You have to go partially nekkid |
| 02:02.04 | Legorol | i just go in dps gear with a shield :) |
| 02:02.08 | Wobwork | aka "TANK WITHOUT PANTS" |
| 02:02.08 | Legorol | wella ctually shield-dps gear |
| 02:02.10 | Mike-N-Go | Currenly, I am a 70 hunter with some Karazhan gear (gloves, bow, writs), and most everything from heroics. |
| 02:02.20 | Legorol | stack those green and blue +bv items |
| 02:02.28 | frop | Mike-N-Go: and SL is hard? :P |
| 02:02.38 | Legorol | with a crap group, even normal mode can be hard |
| 02:02.45 | Legorol | by crap i mean skillwise |
| 02:02.45 | frop | egeg Legorol, right |
| 02:02.49 | Mike-N-Go | I dunno, it has been ages since I have done SL. |
| 02:03.09 | frop | i still wear green bracers Mike-N-Go :) |
| 02:03.28 | Mike-N-Go | I was mentioning that it was hard, before I got good gear. |
| 02:03.34 | Legorol | heh, my normal mode 5-man gear has a green shoulder ;-) |
| 02:03.41 | Legorol | it's the only item i could find so far which has +bv on it |
| 02:04.01 | Wobwork | One of my friends has SL down to just under an hour |
| 02:04.08 | frop | well, sometime is weird how blizz go for gears |
| 02:04.10 | Wobwork | and the sonic spear -still- hasn't dropped for her =P |
| 02:04.21 | frop | this greens are better than ANY blue around |
| 02:04.27 | Legorol | Wobwork: our standard with skilled guild members is 40 mins |
| 02:04.37 | Legorol | with the non-skilled guildies.. well... more |
| 02:04.40 | Mike-N-Go | I got 2 sonic spears, one with Savagrey, and one with 35 AGI. |
| 02:04.47 | frop | lol |
| 02:04.56 | frop | i got Legacy +35agi |
| 02:05.13 | Legorol | frop: i don't think a green is ever better than a blue |
| 02:05.14 | frop | got the bow from prince too |
| 02:05.16 | Legorol | it's just itemised differently |
| 02:05.24 | frop | Legorol: mom |
| 02:05.25 | Legorol | and the value players attach to different stats differ |
| 02:05.55 | Legorol | frop: what green are you thinking of? |
| 02:06.10 | frop | http://www.wowhead.com/?item=29811 |
| 02:06.26 | Mike-N-Go | What is this BV? |
| 02:06.27 | frop | this bracers... |
| 02:06.36 | Legorol | *two* new graveyards in Un'Goro (in 2.2.2)? |
| 02:06.37 | frop | ...the upgrade is in karazhan |
| 02:06.42 | Legorol | that's ... overkill |
| 02:06.46 | frop | Block Value? |
| 02:06.47 | Legorol | even though i like many graveyards |
| 02:06.53 | Legorol | yes block value |
| 02:07.00 | Legorol | (not to be confused with block rating) |
| 02:07.10 | frop | you should dodge :D not block now |
| 02:07.13 | Mike-N-Go | What class are you talking of, Legorol ? |
| 02:07.24 | Legorol | what class can make use of block value? |
| 02:07.32 | frop | paladin! |
| 02:07.35 | Legorol | nope |
| 02:07.37 | Mike-N-Go | Does that help my pet? |
| 02:07.40 | Legorol | warrior |
| 02:07.41 | Mike-N-Go | ((As a hunter.)) |
| 02:07.44 | frop | :D |
| 02:07.48 | Legorol | block value increases the amount of damage you do with shield slam |
| 02:07.57 | Mike-N-Go | A pet for a hunter is a shield. |
| 02:08.02 | frop | Mike-N-Go: you should go for hit... |
| 02:08.06 | Legorol | shield-dps gear set is based on stacking block value, to the point where your shield becomes a 100+ dps off-hand weapon |
| 02:08.07 | frop | ...till you have 146 |
| 02:08.19 | frop | or...something less as Surv |
| 02:08.27 | Mike-N-Go | Things generally gnaw their way through the pet and then the hunter. |
| 02:08.30 | Legorol | you can achieve that with just greens and blues |
| 02:08.54 | Mike-N-Go | Sitting at 6.72% hit (106 points). |
| 02:08.55 | Legorol | the enormous advantage of such gear set is its use in solo grinding and normal mode 5-mans |
| 02:09.10 | Legorol | in grinding, you can keep going without downtime for a long time, since you are running around with a shield so you take less damage |
| 02:09.20 | Legorol | also items with +bv tend to be geared more for tanking anyway |
| 02:09.28 | frop | well...mostly i find 5man Heroic more funny/difficult than karazhan |
| 02:09.37 | Legorol | in a normal mode 5-man, thanks to increased gear level of healers, they can easily keep you up |
| 02:09.52 | Wobwork | yeah |
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| 02:10.02 | Legorol | i agree that heroic can be more difficult |
| 02:10.03 | Wobwork | sometimes we have to play silly buggers with aggro to give the healers something to do |
| 02:10.07 | Wobwork | otherwise they get bored |
| 02:10.21 | Legorol | it depends a lot on the nature of your Kara group |
| 02:10.27 | frop | eheh...multi group pulls |
| 02:10.31 | Legorol | a group that has kara practiced and geared for can do it nicely |
| 02:10.36 | Wobwork | I've seen some really really bad kara groups =) |
| 02:10.48 | frop | Legorol: sure... |
| 02:10.49 | Legorol | i haven't as i only ever go with guild |
| 02:10.49 | Mike-N-Go | Wobwork: I second that notion. |
| 02:10.49 | Wobwork | that have no concept of aggro management etc |
| 02:10.52 | Legorol | or rather: |
| 02:10.56 | frop | ...but still an heroic is funnier |
| 02:10.58 | Legorol | i have, as i only ever go with guild :o) |
| 02:11.02 | sysrage | did VR get buffed today? |
| 02:11.25 | Mike-N-Go | It would be fun to, say, kill the priest with misdirection in a heroic! |
| 02:11.31 | Legorol | what i like about heroics is that they require the kind of level of focus/skill that say raiding Karazhan does |
| 02:11.37 | frop | Mike-N-Go: already done :D |
| 02:11.38 | Legorol | it's a step up from the laid back leveling process |
| 02:11.41 | Shirik | hm |
| 02:11.44 | Shirik | our server just crashed |
| 02:11.46 | Shirik | oh wells |
| 02:11.57 | Wobwork | I hate heroic SL |
| 02:12.00 | Legorol | so it's a good environment for "gamers" who want to test their own skills, but are not raiding for one reason or another |
| 02:12.04 | Wobwork | especially the pulls in the auditorium |
| 02:12.16 | Mike-N-Go | I enjoy to kill beggers in org with inv. them to party, and misdirecting the Centarioun guy onto 'em. |
| 02:12.17 | Legorol | you have to do some very creative CC there sometimes |
| 02:12.25 | Legorol | give me a lock and i'm happy.. they can CC 2 mobs :) |
| 02:12.30 | frop | eheh |
| 02:12.41 | frop | or a priest with MC |
| 02:12.48 | Legorol | no, i need him to heal |
| 02:12.50 | Mike-N-Go | I, a hunter, can also CC 2 mobs.. for 20 seconds or so. |
| 02:12.55 | Wobwork | The dispellers of sheep/trap are irritating though |
| 02:12.56 | Legorol | rofl |
| 02:13.25 | Legorol | Mike-N-Go: would you be able to trap one and kite one? |
| 02:13.30 | Wobwork | nah |
| 02:13.33 | Wobwork | you can doubletrap |
| 02:13.33 | Legorol | it'd take godlike skills.. but maybe possible |
| 02:13.36 | Legorol | rofl |
| 02:13.43 | frop | eheh |
| 02:13.45 | Wobwork | it takes good use of timing and certain skills |
| 02:14.02 | frop | naah, but on Heroic is HARD |
| 02:14.03 | Wobwork | but then you end up almost dead =) |
| 02:14.10 | Wobwork | unless the tank is there to save you |
| 02:14.13 | frop | Wobwork: exactly |
| 02:14.23 | Wobwork | (or the healer ends up dead =)) |
| 02:14.24 | Legorol | i'm noob at hunterism |
| 02:14.35 | frop | it needs alot of space to kite |
| 02:14.36 | Wobwork | chaintrapping/multtrapping is a really good skill to learn |
| 02:14.39 | Mike-N-Go | Legorol: I can trap 2 mobs in ice at once. |
| 02:14.46 | Legorol | actually my archnemeses are mages that think that sheep-pulling is a good idea |
| 02:14.53 | frop | Mike-N-Go: but one get loose... |
| 02:14.57 | frop | ...after a bit |
| 02:15.02 | Wobwork | Legorol: Just stand really far back on the pull =) |
| 02:15.06 | Wobwork | and let them die a few times |
| 02:15.07 | frop | you can't chaintrap 2 mobs |
| 02:15.12 | Wobwork | no |
| 02:15.13 | sysrage | whatever mage thinks sheep pulling is a good idea should be shot |
| 02:15.22 | Legorol | it has its uses |
| 02:15.26 | Legorol | and *sometimes* i prefer it |
| 02:15.37 | Legorol | but in the majority of cases i want them to sheep after the pull |
| 02:15.45 | frop | sheep pull is doable in SP :D |
| 02:15.47 | Wobwork | it's all about sheep placement |
| 02:16.01 | Legorol | i agree that sheep placement is important |
| 02:16.01 | frop | you can get one mobs only...and no slaves |
| 02:16.04 | Wobwork | you can easily time the actual morph a fraction of a second after the pull |
| 02:16.07 | Shirik | sag_ich_nicht: ping |
| 02:16.09 | Legorol | but i have aggro considerations mostly on my mind |
| 02:16.16 | Legorol | Wobwork: i agree, a good mage should |
| 02:16.25 | Legorol | especially when i'm using a 2.7 second gun to pull |
| 02:16.28 | Mike-N-Go | Lay trap, wait for CD to be up, pull one, when the first is in trap, pull another and place it on the other trap. It helps on big pulls, to at least give 20 seconds or so to zerg down one of the mobs. |
| 02:16.35 | Wobwork | It takes a good puller though |
| 02:17.01 | frop | Mike-N-Go: well, at the time the secondo is trapped...the first get loose in a short |
| 02:17.03 | Wobwork | Mike-N-Go: And that's even without Readiness |
| 02:17.08 | Legorol | Wobwork: i ask for sheeppull when there are only two mobs, and they are very hard hitting, so i don't want them to hit me together even once |
| 02:17.19 | Wobwork | Legorol: are you bodypulling? |
| 02:17.25 | Legorol | nope |
| 02:17.30 | Legorol | but i don't trust mages to time it well |
| 02:17.34 | Wobwork | should be plenty of time to sheep then |
| 02:17.38 | Legorol | most of the mages in pugs can't time them well enough |
| 02:17.40 | Wobwork | yeah, well there's the crux =) |
| 02:17.42 | Legorol | i agree that there *should* be |
| 02:17.45 | sysrage | you need better mages if they can't sheep by the time they get to you |
| 02:17.53 | Legorol | i have no control over pug mages :) |
| 02:18.01 | frop | never pug... |
| 02:18.03 | Wobwork | stand really close and hope the mobs cleave =) |
| 02:18.04 | Legorol | so i just ask for a sheeppull on hardhitting double mobs |
| 02:18.06 | frop | ...that's the solution |
| 02:18.12 | Mike-N-Go | 20 seconds of CC on a mob; that is one less mob hitting the tank for the time. |
| 02:18.14 | Wobwork | it'll teach the mages to sheep early =) |
| 02:18.19 | Legorol | frop: funnily enough, ia ctually like pugging |
| 02:18.35 | Legorol | fortunately, for me, the amount of fun/hilarious groups with great convos outweighed the suckers so far |
| 02:18.43 | Legorol | i had been in some terrible ones too |
| 02:18.45 | Wobwork | I tend to drop out of pugs that suck |
| 02:18.47 | Legorol | but it's a lesson for life ;-) |
| 02:19.00 | frop | Wobwork: not fair :{ |
| 02:19.09 | Wobwork | There was one that we fairly much wiped on every single pull at the start of Mech |
| 02:19.19 | frop | if you accept a pug...you've to stay till the end |
| 02:19.19 | Wobwork | After the fourth almost wipe, I gave up |
| 02:19.23 | Wobwork | screw that |
| 02:19.35 | frop | well...all have to agree |
| 02:19.40 | Legorol | unfortunately i'm a completist, and i also have a thing against leaving groups |
| 02:19.50 | Wobwork | I'm not going to waste my time on a group that make no effort to do things right |
| 02:19.57 | Legorol | no problem with leaving it if the group agrees |
| 02:20.01 | frop | well...you should teach them ;) |
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| 02:20.10 | Wobwork | frop: I've done that before |
| 02:20.15 | Legorol | Wobwork: that is completely your right, and i admire you for your ability to just say "screw this" |
| 02:20.17 | Wobwork | It took me 3 hours to get through Mech |
| 02:20.22 | Wobwork | 3 |
| 02:20.23 | Legorol | it's something i *want to* be able to do ;_) |
| 02:20.24 | Wobwork | hours. |
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| 02:20.29 | Legorol | normal? |
| 02:20.32 | Wobwork | yes |
| 02:20.35 | Legorol | ok that's bad :D |
| 02:20.45 | Wobwork | I had to talk both the priest and the warrior through each encounter |
| 02:21.00 | frop | we've done heroic in about an hour i guess...toniht |
| 02:21.02 | Legorol | you were the mage? |
| 02:21.06 | Wobwork | I was the rogue =P |
| 02:21.18 | Legorol | i was just about to type "or the rogue" |
| 02:21.23 | Legorol | you beat me to it |
| 02:21.39 | frop | mec... |
| 02:21.42 | Wobwork | After that, I took a guild group in and we chainpulled the entire instance =P |
| 02:21.51 | frop | with a tankadin |
| 02:21.57 | Legorol | btw, for those of you that don't have a warrior: it's possible to do some crazy dps with a shield |
| 02:22.06 | Legorol | just don't laugh at warriors who grab a shield to dps ;-) |
| 02:22.13 | Wobwork | I <3 mech with a 'lock |
| 02:22.17 | frop | i'll remember this |
| 02:22.18 | Wobwork | it's ezmode |
| 02:22.29 | Legorol | i <3 tankadins! |
| 02:22.34 | Legorol | they are much better at 5-mans than warriors |
| 02:22.35 | frop | Wobwork: eheh, the bombers go down quick |
| 02:22.46 | Legorol | it's harder for them to get geared for heroics, but they are good at that too |
| 02:22.59 | Wobwork | cause trying to peel off mobs from an overly eager tankadin to trap is so hard =P |
| 02:23.02 | Legorol | for a raid though, i'd still take a warrior, sadly |
| 02:23.07 | frop | Legorol: sure...althougt he need to know what to do |
| 02:23.18 | Legorol | i agree |
| 02:23.24 | frop | cause he aggroes EVERYthing around :D |
| 02:23.28 | Legorol | friend of mine is a crazy tank |
| 02:23.32 | Wobwork | If I were a mage, I'd <3 tankadins more |
| 02:23.35 | Legorol | he has a 70 prot warrior and prot paladin] |
| 02:23.36 | Wobwork | mostly cause of the aoe prospects |
| 02:23.38 | Legorol | tanking is his life :) |
| 02:23.53 | frop | Salvation WTF |
| 02:24.10 | Legorol | his prot warrior is guild's MT, and his prot paladin is better equipped than a lot of our guildies who are still gearing up in Karazhan |
| 02:24.26 | Wobwork | hm, are the mechanics between sunder and rogue's expose armour still the same? |
| 02:24.35 | frop | eheh...he plays alot then :) |
| 02:24.43 | Legorol | yes he does |
| 02:24.57 | Legorol | but, due to overall tank shortage on all realms, he has no problem getting 5-mans for his pala :) |
| 02:25.12 | Legorol | Wobwork: was it ever different? |
| 02:25.15 | frop | we're short on healer lastly |
| 02:25.22 | Wobwork | No idea =) |
| 02:25.30 | frop | we used to have 2 kara group... |
| 02:25.33 | Legorol | i mean, what difference can there be between two abilities that reduce opponent's armor? |
| 02:25.39 | frop | ...today nogroup at all :P |
| 02:25.42 | Wobwork | I've always learnt that you never use expose armour if there's a warrior tank |
| 02:25.55 | Wobwork | due to it replacing/doing something bad to sunder |
| 02:26.00 | Mike-N-Go | Only problem with Tankadins; mana. |
| 02:26.01 | Legorol | frop: our guild is short on healers too, but as a guild we have enough tanks for raiding and guild 5-mans |
| 02:26.08 | Legorol | the realm itself is chronically short on tanks though |
| 02:26.22 | Legorol | i can close my eyes and pick an instance randomly and i will be able to go within 15 mins during primetime |
| 02:26.25 | Wobwork | Mike-N-Go: Solution: Manatide Shammy/Spriest |
| 02:26.47 | Mike-N-Go | Wobwork: Can't get that in every group. |
| 02:26.58 | frop | eheh Legorol, a tank can where he wants, usually |
| 02:27.17 | Wobwork | I've considered making a tank |
| 02:27.22 | Wobwork | but I've run out of slots =P |
| 02:27.23 | frop | Tankadin need to drink on every pull... |
| 02:27.26 | Legorol | the tank shortage is pretty understandable |
| 02:27.29 | Mike-N-Go | Death Knight FTW |
| 02:27.41 | Legorol | those warriors who can/want to tank tend to raid, and don't want to take their tanks to 5-mans |
| 02:27.44 | Legorol | or do guild stuff |
| 02:27.51 | Legorol | those warriors that can't are dps and pugging :) |
| 02:27.58 | Legorol | that leaves ferals and tonkadins |
| 02:28.06 | Legorol | and for some reason, people *still* have aversion against those |
| 02:28.13 | Wobwork | hehe tonkadins |
| 02:28.26 | Wobwork | aversion? what aversion? |
| 02:28.31 | Mike-N-Go | I <3 feral druids; more crit. |
| 02:28.33 | Legorol | not everyone |
| 02:28.42 | frop | i'd like to try to "tank" |
| 02:28.54 | Wobwork | tankadins are great, cause I can stun the mob to my hearts content |
| 02:28.59 | Legorol | the best one is that i get many whispers each day randomly asking if i can tank such and such instance |
| 02:29.00 | frop | not sure btw...druud/tonkadin/warrior |
| 02:29.05 | Legorol | they almost never ask my spec though :) |
| 02:29.11 | Legorol | i could be arms and say "sure i can tank" |
| 02:29.14 | Corrodias | we're playing like we did a month ago, but we're doing well enough |
| 02:29.28 | Legorol | hey Corrodias |
| 02:29.30 | Wobwork | Legorol: With the armoury, we no longer have to ask =P |
| 02:29.31 | Legorol | how's raiding going for you? |
| 02:29.32 | Corrodias | yo |
| 02:29.40 | Legorol | Wobwork: youd' be surprised! people are too lazy |
| 02:29.42 | Wobwork | I abuse ThraeBot a lot when pugging |
| 02:29.50 | Corrodias | quite well. all my addons work fine except x-perl having a pemanent pet aggro warning, which is because it hasn't been updated yet |
| 02:29.54 | Legorol | i have got into groups as tanks any number of times, based on saying "yeah i can tank" |
| 02:30.01 | Legorol | i didn't even say i am protection specced |
| 02:30.09 | frop | Corrodias: i got that problem too...with Omen |
| 02:30.18 | Wobwork | well, if you can dpstank, then that's all good =) |
| 02:30.49 | frop | my pet go crazy on TPS |
| 02:31.07 | frop | althought it's not aggroing nothing |
| 02:31.23 | Legorol | Wobwork: true |
| 02:31.27 | Wobwork | perhaps it's gnawing on it's own leg in hunger |
| 02:31.42 | Legorol | but a group will never beleive you that you can, if you confess to being dps |
| 02:32.23 | Wobwork | Then it's "hm, why is he tanking while dual wielding...?" |
| 02:32.31 | frop | ehehe |
| 02:32.51 | Mike-N-Go | What is ThraeBot? |
| 02:33.12 | Wobwork | !c us argent dawn Tobermory |
| 02:33.14 | ThraeBot | Wobwork: Tobermory, Level 70 Human Rogue (19/42/0). 6944 HP; 1143 AP; 279.300 Melee DPS; 18.34% melee crit; 151 melee hit; 21.80% dodge; 4 resilience;[[ TBR: 720 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/27jxx2 ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/2sq93q ][ Updated: Tue Sep 25 22:47:53 2007 EST ]] |
| 02:33.15 | frop | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:33.34 | Mike-N-Go | Coolies! |
| 02:33.48 | frop | !c eu Terenas Sharala |
| 02:33.51 | ThraeBot | frop: Sharala, Level 70 Troll Hunter (0/42/19). 7507 HP; 6298 Mana; 111 mana regen; 32 mp5; 4772 Armour; 1444 AP; 217.100 Melee DPS; 15.01% melee crit; 110 melee hit; 1803 RAP; 302.70 Ranged DPS; 20.37% ranged crit; 110 ranged hit; 14.03% dodge;[[ TBR: 1289 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/yw5ql9 ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/38kbso ][ Updated: Tue Sep 25 22:48:30 2007 EST ]] |
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| 02:34.13 | Wobwork | I just need 6 more nethers =\ |
| 02:34.24 | Wobwork | and mmm mmm dragonmaw =) |
| 02:34.41 | frop | :O |
| 02:34.45 | frop | i love this bot! |
| 02:35.12 | Mike-N-Go | Wow, nice bot! |
| 02:35.51 | Legorol | impressive |
| 02:35.59 | Legorol | !c eu Silvermoon Legorol |
| 02:36.01 | ThraeBot | Legorol: Legorol, Level 70 Gnome Warrior (9/5/47). 8954 HP; 8962 Armour; 1660 AP; 231.800 Melee DPS; 23.31% melee crit; 211 melee hit; 38 defense; 7.90% dodge; 11.12% block; 15 resilience; 10 arcane resist (+10);[[ TBR: 1973 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/ypsxy7 ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/329z8m ][ Updated: Tue Sep 25 22:50:40 2007 EST ]] |
| 02:36.08 | Legorol | it knows me! yay! |
| 02:36.13 | Mike-N-Go | Wobwork, who is Tobermory? |
| 02:36.18 | Wobwork | My rogue =) |
| 02:36.46 | Legorol | what's TBR? |
| 02:36.50 | Kaydeethree | ~tbr |
| 02:36.50 | purl | extra, extra, read all about it, tbr is ThraeBot Ratings -- a ThraeBot innovation. Working on a PvP-oriented weighted algorithm for what stats the Armoury currently has for your character, partially modified by build-type, it can be used to pit two characters in TBR vs TBR combat, and tries try to take into account which classes are fighting. (or "to be released") |
| 02:37.12 | Legorol | woot! |
| 02:37.15 | Legorol | awesome |
| 02:37.27 | Legorol | i seem to have a high TBR |
| 02:37.32 | Legorol | wonder how that happened |
| 02:37.49 | Wobwork | gear, probably |
| 02:37.51 | frop | 8954 HP |
| 02:37.58 | frop | that's not so hi :) |
| 02:38.29 | Legorol | i wonder what weighting is given to build |
| 02:38.29 | Mike-N-Go | Who do we have to thank for ThaeBot? |
| 02:38.37 | Legorol | probably Thrae :) |
| 02:38.37 | Mike-N-Go | ThraeBot* |
| 02:38.40 | Mike-N-Go | =O |
| 02:38.53 | frop | rly nice bot :D |
| 02:38.53 | Mike-N-Go | ~seen thrae |
| 02:38.55 | purl | thrae is currently on #asterisk (18h 54m) #wowi-lounge (18h 54m) #wowhead (18h 54m) #wowace (18h 54m) #wowwiki (18h 54m), last said: 'Grum: During slumber, sometimes the blood rushes to--oh, that wasn't what you meant.'. |
| 02:39.20 | frop | ...does it get info from armory? |
| 02:39.33 | frop | !c eu Terenas Dandrig |
| 02:39.35 | ThraeBot | frop: Dandrig, Level 70 Orc Warrior (11/5/45). 9394 HP; 6361 Armour; 1386 AP; 202.600 Melee DPS; 27.93% melee crit; 88 melee hit; 7.35% dodge; 10.80% block;[[ TBR: 1391 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/27wmbk ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/339cgj ][ Updated: Tue Sep 25 22:54:14 2007 EST ]] |
| 02:40.08 | frop | mmmh |
| 02:40.24 | frop | this is an awesome tank...most Gruul/SSC geared |
| 02:40.57 | Mike-N-Go | How does one enable the Mac Movie capture? Or the built-in VoIP in WoW? |
| 02:41.21 | Kaydeethree | voip is disabled, take a look at the mac options window to play with capture settings |
| 02:41.22 | frop | well 4:39AM here |
| 02:41.24 | frop | nn all |
| 02:41.32 | Kaydeethree | [ is the start/stop cap key, { is the cancel this recording, delete it key |
| 02:41.38 | Kaydeethree | iirc |
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| 02:43.38 | Kirov | poor wowi |
| 02:44.00 | Kirov | so slow today |
| 02:50.00 | |Jelly| | GRRR! |
| 02:50.11 | |Jelly| | Forgot to put Align in my interface folder. |
| 02:53.17 | Mike-N-Go | Under 'Mac Options' everything under the "movie Recording" is grayed out. |
| 02:53.24 | Kaydeethree | huzzah... the forum crash seems to have calmed the forums down a bit |
| 02:53.30 | JoshBorke | align ftw :-D |
| 02:53.49 | Kaydeethree | what kind of mac do you have? |
| 02:54.33 | Mike-N-Go | Intel MacBook Pro. |
| 02:56.45 | Kaydeethree | take a look in this thread? http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=1371474767&sid=1 |
| 03:06.05 | Kirov | Does anyone know if anyone uses simpletranqshot anymore? |
| 03:06.45 | Corrodias | this is a bit odd. i don't hear my Enrage sound any more, nor my Dash. |
| 03:07.00 | *** part/#wowi-lounge Kirov (n=Kirov@c-71-198-140-70.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) |
| 03:07.37 | Nom- | So how'd the new patch go ? |
| 03:07.41 | Nom- | All good so far ? |
| 03:07.56 | Corrodias | yep |
| 03:09.04 | Corrodias | except that, mysteriously, my inventory now contains the letter from an orphan from back during children's week |
| 03:09.26 | Corrodias | it's supposed to be in my bank |
| 03:11.18 | |Jelly| | Have that same issue. |
| 03:11.25 | |Jelly| | Letters that were in my bank are in my inventory. |
| 03:12.01 | Legorol | I had a similar but not identical problem a few months ago |
| 03:12.12 | Legorol | certain items would be transported to my bags form my bank, eveyr time i logged in |
| 03:12.21 | Legorol | it was always the same, very few, specific items |
| 03:12.30 | Corrodias | bizarre |
| 03:12.44 | Legorol | also, if they were alreayd in my bag, they'd be ported to a specific bag slot on login, even if i have placed them elsewhere |
| 03:13.03 | Legorol | when i contacted a GM, they examined the items in question and said that the database entries corresponding to the items are corrupted |
| 03:13.20 | Corrodias | interesting :o |
| 03:13.32 | Legorol | she didn't say more of the technical details, but she proceeded to delete the items and recreate identical copies |
| 03:13.41 | Legorol | which nevertheless would give fresh database entries presumably |
| 03:14.10 | Legorol | the fun part was that she couldn't just spawn the items with the enchants on it, she had to spawn the items first, |
| 03:14.16 | Legorol | then enchant them via the trade window ;-) |
| 03:14.50 | Legorol | this meant Ms. GM had to materialise in the world |
| 03:14.59 | Corrodias | scary |
| 03:15.01 | Legorol | was fun fun |
| 03:15.18 | Legorol | unfortunately one of the enchants she couldn't redo for some reaosn, i think it was +7 dmg on a 2H weapon |
| 03:15.32 | Legorol | so she profusely apologised but i ended up with my weapon without the enchant :/ |
| 03:16.00 | Mike-N-Go | Legorol: Neat. |
| 03:16.33 | Legorol | it was fun when a GM spawns a Bloodlord's Defender for you and then puts a Crusader on it :) |
| 03:19.20 | Mike-N-Go | Is it just me, or is new background music playing? |
| 03:19.52 | Kaydeethree | in the inns, yes |
| 03:20.11 | mikma | Legorol: was there anything different happening if you compare normal enchanting? |
| 03:20.24 | Mike-N-Go | As I fly through the Outlands, I hear diffrent sounds. |
| 03:20.49 | Legorol | mikma: not at all |
| 03:21.11 | Legorol | she first had to appear in the world, then give herself enchanting profession, then "train" it to max skill level |
| 03:21.17 | Legorol | then she could apply them via the trade window |
| 03:21.32 | Legorol | i know this because it took a while, and to stop me getting bored, she was explaining what i'm waiting for |
| 03:21.42 | mikma | oh cool. so nothing visible was happening? |
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| 03:23.06 | Kirov | Ok, that was, by far, the most entertaining server error I've seen in some time |
| 03:23.17 | Kirov | I dismounted ... but didn't loose my mount buff. |
| 03:23.27 | mikma | Kirov: so you ran extremely fast |
| 03:23.30 | Kirov | I flew around Shat |
| 03:23.42 | mikma | hah |
| 03:24.01 | mikma | there was a glitch that you could actually "dismount" and start swimming in the air |
| 03:24.21 | Kirov | Got to be like that for a good 2 minutes before the world server went down |
| 03:24.44 | Kirov | Now I get to find out if I'm falling to my doom or not |
| 03:25.03 | mikma | i've seen a video from privateserver where some dude used the "gm powers" and gave himself a 100% runspeed (mount) |
| 03:25.22 | mikma | it's most entertaining to watch gnome run fast |
| 03:25.34 | mikma | you can actually do it in wow without gm |
| 03:25.43 | mikma | go into eots, and get the spring buff |
| 03:27.04 | Legorol | does anyone have any idea how i could've possibly ended up with +8 str on pants? |
| 03:27.15 | Mike-N-Go | Armor kit |
| 03:27.24 | Legorol | there is a +8 str amor kit? |
| 03:27.33 | Mike-N-Go | [Knothide Armor Kit] |
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| 03:27.40 | Kirov | Legorol - you spilled soy sauce on yourself? |
| 03:28.03 | Legorol | Mike-N-Go: that's +8 sta |
| 03:28.08 | Mike-N-Go | !i Knothide Armor Kit |
| 03:28.09 | ThraeBot | Mike-N-Go: Name: Knothide Armor Kit; Rarity: Common (White); 10 Stack; Type: Consumable; Requires L50; Use: Permanently increase the stamina of an item worn on the chest, legs, hands or feet by 8. Only usable on items level 55 and above.. [[ http://www.wowarmory.com/item-info.xml?i=25650 ][ http://www.wowhead.com/?item=25650 ]] |
| 03:28.37 | Legorol | i know about that one, but i have +8 str |
| 03:28.49 | Mike-N-Go | Oh, I misred. |
| 03:28.56 | Mike-N-Go | misread* |
| 03:29.02 | Legorol | i agree the difference between str and sta is subtle |
| 03:29.04 | Legorol | easily misread |
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| 03:29.26 | TS|Skrom_ | why is my chat channel moderated ? :( |
| 03:29.59 | Legorol | GM putting Crusader on my Bloodlord's Defender: http://img245.imageshack.us/img245/272/wowscrnshot020507064424we2.jpg |
| 03:30.26 | mikma | Legorol: lol so it did happen |
| 03:30.42 | Legorol | you thought i was making it up? |
| 03:31.21 | Mike-N-Go | Legorol: The GM became creative =P |
| 03:31.31 | Mike-N-Go | BTW, what is the enchant ID? |
| 03:31.32 | Kirov | Legorol - what's the itemid? |
| 03:31.45 | Legorol | i don't have the item anymore :( |
| 03:31.46 | Mike-N-Go | Kirov: I |
| 03:31.54 | Legorol | it was long time ago, but i had +8 str on it |
| 03:31.59 | Kirov | ah |
| 03:32.08 | Legorol | i know that the Lesser Arcanum of Voracity gives +8 str on legs |
| 03:32.18 | Legorol | but i'm almost 100% sure that's not how i got it |
| 03:32.29 | Kirov | http://www.wowhead.com/?item=11645 |
| 03:32.37 | Kirov | *damn( |
| 03:32.48 | Legorol | i have acquired it pre-TBC |
| 03:32.50 | Mike-N-Go | !i Lesser Arcanum of Voracity |
| 03:32.51 | ThraeBot | Mike-N-Go: Name: Lesser Arcanum of Voracity; Rarity: Uncommon (Green); BoP; Type: Consumable; Use: Permanently adds 8 stamina to a leg or head slot item. Does not stack with other enchantments for the selected equipment slot.. [[ http://www.wowarmory.com/item-info.xml?i=11646 ][ http://www.wowhead.com/?item=11646 ]] |
| 03:32.53 | Legorol | and i can't remember for the life of me how |
| 03:32.54 | mikma | Legorol: so, what's the reason for this? you got "hacked" or someone guessed your password? |
| 03:33.08 | Legorol | mikma: scroll up |
| 03:33.20 | Kirov | Legorol - you sure it wasn't a "of Strength" item? |
| 03:33.22 | Kirov | ;) |
| 03:33.26 | Legorol | i'm sure |
| 03:33.35 | Legorol | it was legplates of might ;-) |
| 03:33.47 | Mike-N-Go | !i legplates of might |
| 03:33.48 | ThraeBot | Mike-N-Go: that is not the item you're looking for! |
| 03:33.55 | Legorol | it had +8 str on it, and although theoretically possible i just remmeber wrong and i in fact used the voracity on it, i doubt i did |
| 03:34.01 | Mike-N-Go | !i legpants of might |
| 03:34.01 | ThraeBot | Mike-N-Go: that is not the item you're looking for! |
| 03:34.04 | Mike-N-Go | =[ |
| 03:34.09 | Legorol | the reason for me saying that is that i got might legs fairly soon, even before i knew about how Arcana etc. worked |
| 03:34.39 | Kirov | Anyone know where in the code the blizzard comparison tooltips are? |
| 03:34.39 | Legorol | but i can't find anything else so i must conclude i just have a faulty memory and it was in fact voracity |
| 03:34.48 | mikma | Legorol: neato. |
| 03:36.12 | Mike-N-Go | As we have developed, str and sta may be mixed up easily. |
| 03:36.14 | Legorol | Kirov: GameTooltip.lua |
| 03:36.17 | Legorol | and GameTooltip.xml |
| 03:36.43 | TS|Skrom_ | :O |
| 03:36.48 | Legorol | the function that displays them is GameTooltip_ShowCompareItem in GameTooltip.lua |
| 03:36.53 | TS|Skrom_ | aspect of the viper is broken?? :( |
| 03:36.57 | Legorol | it's called from 100 different places in the default UI code |
| 03:36.59 | mikma | only time i've seen gm doing something "real" is when they took item from other person and send it to my wife via ingame mail |
| 03:37.13 | Corrodias | REALM DOWN, SCOTTY |
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| 03:37.20 | mikma | there was mail from blizz in mailbox with the t4 shoulder -item in :) |
| 03:37.23 | Legorol | TS|Skrom_: it's not |
| 03:37.27 | Legorol | it's mechanics have changed |
| 03:37.30 | Legorol | RTFPN |
| 03:37.59 | mikma | and i think she even took a SS of it heh |
| 03:38.03 | TS|Skrom_ | yeah I have it on, I'm at 20% mana... it's regening 0 above my item regen |
| 03:38.10 | mikma | oh wait, i just remembered another thing |
| 03:38.21 | Legorol | TS|Skrom_: ok that does sound broken |
| 03:38.35 | Legorol | mikma: during this whole episode, i had epics mailed to me by the GM |
| 03:38.36 | mikma | we were in some instance, i need rolled some rare drop, and never got it |
| 03:38.47 | Legorol | but that didnt' work the way it was supposed to, so she appeared in person |
| 03:38.56 | mikma | so i made a gm ticket about it, they inspected, and i got the item by mail |
| 03:39.05 | Wobwork | damnit |
| 03:39.14 | Wobwork | I was hoping that AotV was going to work = |
| 03:39.15 | Wobwork | ( |
| 03:39.26 | Corrodias | it -should-... :( |
| 03:39.35 | TS|Skrom_ | it's not |
| 03:39.45 | mikma | what's AotV ? |
| 03:39.46 | Corrodias | IT SHOULD |
| 03:39.51 | Wobwork | Aspect of the Viper |
| 03:40.04 | mikma | some hunter-thing? |
| 03:40.08 | Corrodias | yes |
| 03:40.13 | TS|Skrom_ | I'm telling you my mana regen is changing by 0 |
| 03:40.14 | Wobwork | They changed the mechanics, as it used to be a flat 20% of int to +mana regen |
| 03:40.16 | Corrodias | a mana-regenerating aspect |
| 03:40.31 | Wobwork | now it's supposedly weighted to the amount of mana you currently have |
| 03:40.38 | Wobwork | ie, the less mana you have, the higher the regen |
| 03:40.43 | Wobwork | and vice versa |
| 03:41.09 | Legorol | mikma: T1 Legs with enchant in the mail ;-) |
| 03:41.10 | Legorol | http://img231.imageshack.us/img231/9497/wowscrnshot020507041826bi1.jpg |
| 03:41.41 | mikma | Legorol: cool, now i don't have to dig up the screenshot from my wife's computer :D |
| 03:41.44 | Wobwork | Legorol: what was your issue? |
| 03:43.01 | Legorol | Wobwork: scroll up please |
| 03:43.17 | Legorol | and that explains the Voracity Conundrum.. |
| 03:43.36 | Legorol | in fact i had +8 sta on legs, but the GM got it wrong and spawned Voracity instead when she recreated the legs |
| 03:43.43 | Legorol | and i didn't notice |
| 03:44.10 | Legorol | oh wait! |
| 03:44.15 | Legorol | now i know what happened exactly! |
| 03:44.23 | Wobwork | It was the butler all along? |
| 03:44.32 | Legorol | I had +8 sta on legs from armor kit, and she recreated the +8 sta *using voracity instead* |
| 03:44.38 | Legorol | now it hit me like a freight train, that was it! |
| 03:44.41 | Legorol | not +8 str |
| 03:45.22 | Legorol | Voracity can give +8 agi, int, spi, sta or str |
| 03:45.34 | Tierrie | wow, it suddenly became extremely easy to buy music on amazon |
| 03:45.40 | TS|Skrom_ | Okay proof: I have 10 mp/5. I clicked aspect of viper (there fore I'm in 5 second rule) my mana goes up 4 points then up another 4 |
| 03:45.42 | Tierrie | i almost spent like 10 bucks in 3 clicks ;( |
| 03:45.50 | TS|Skrom_ | that makes me sad panda :( |
| 03:46.03 | Legorol | that does sound bugged |
| 03:46.03 | TS|Skrom_ | not only is it not working as it should from the patch, it's not working period |
| 03:48.08 | Kirov | Guillotine - you around? |
| 03:48.24 | Kirov | Guillotine - I'd suggest you take down curse really really soon |
| 03:48.28 | Guillotine | hold on, nightbane |
| 03:48.44 | TS|Skrom_ | viper's bonus might be working out of combat |
| 03:48.46 | TS|Skrom_ | er casting |
| 03:49.07 | TS|Skrom_ | not reflected on the spells tab like it used to , but my regen is jumping at weird intervals |
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| 03:49.36 | Legorol | Kirov: what's wrong with curse? |
| 03:49.40 | Mike-N-Go | ~seen clide |
| 03:49.42 | purl | i haven't seen 'clide', Mike-N-Go |
| 03:49.53 | Wobwork | I hear that people have been logging into other people's accounts |
| 03:49.58 | Wobwork | ~seen Cide |
| 03:49.59 | purl | cide <n=Cide@hus110a.bobbnet.com> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowi-lounge, 5h 4m 23s ago, saying: 'thanks :)'. |
| 03:50.00 | Kirov | Wobwork - aye |
| 03:50.14 | Mike-N-Go | Anyone here work on CT_mod? |
| 03:50.28 | Legorol | The "C" in CT is for Cide |
| 03:50.31 | Wobwork | Cide, not clide |
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| 03:51.39 | TS|Skrom_ | no wait, I think I know what it is |
| 03:52.12 | Corrodias | in the year of the cat... |
| 03:52.16 | Legorol | lol |
| 03:52.24 | TS|Skrom_ | maybe... it might be adding mana once every 5 seconds as opposed to changing the mp/5 numbers |
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| 03:52.55 | Corrodias | what YOU need... is an empirical test. run out of mana, see how long it takes to regen to 50% with and without the aspect. |
| 03:53.02 | Legorol | gnight folks, happy patchday to you all |
| 03:53.06 | Corrodias | 'ni! |
| 03:53.12 | TS|Skrom_ | working on it |
| 03:53.12 | Kirov | later Lego |
| 03:53.14 | Kirov | doh |
| 03:53.48 | art3mis | clide? |
| 03:54.23 | art3mis | he's a ghost from pacman? |
| 03:55.46 | mikma | gah, he went offline :( |
| 03:55.50 | mikma | http://reaktio.net/~josma/wow/shoulders.jpg anyway |
| 03:56.15 | Mike-N-Go | ~dict Aminute |
| 03:56.28 | Kirov | ~emulate Kirov |
| 03:56.29 | purl | It's too early in the morning for me to be able to read moron. |
| 03:56.29 | Mike-N-Go | ~dict Aninute |
| 03:56.52 | mikma | purl: botmail to legorol: here you go http://reaktio.net/~josma/wow/shoulders.jpg |
| 03:57.02 | mikma | problem solved |
| 03:57.47 | TS|Skrom_ | okay I freaked out over nothing. It's working. I just wasn't seeing it at first because it wasn't using the mp/5 mechanics like it was last night |
| 03:57.49 | Wobwork | Mike-N-Go: wtf? |
| 03:58.01 | Wobwork | is it a silent mp regen? |
| 03:58.15 | TS|Skrom_ | it comes in 5 second pulses in or out of combat |
| 03:58.31 | Wobwork | so literally mp/5 |
| 03:58.37 | Wobwork | instead of mp over 5 |
| 03:58.43 | TS|Skrom_ | appears so |
| 03:58.51 | Wobwork | interesting |
| 03:59.09 | TS|Skrom_ | which was why it was hard to notice... it doesn't kick in til 5 seconds after you turn the buff on |
| 03:59.20 | mikma | Wobwork: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heckler_&_Koch_MP5 |
| 03:59.21 | TS|Skrom_ | and since my original test was to not have it on then turn it on... |
| 03:59.24 | mikma | there's mp5 for ya |
| 03:59.28 | TS|Skrom_ | haha |
| 03:59.44 | Mike-N-Go | Wobwork: Moo |
| 03:59.57 | Mike-N-Go | ~mp5 |
| 04:00.25 | mikma | should add "PEW PEW http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heckler_&_Koch_MP5" |
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| 04:08.26 | Aalny | clad sleep, doh |
| 04:24.02 | Aalny | Anyone using Clique having trouble click casting on party pets? |
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| 04:43.23 | Corrodias | there's an update for clique today, but i don't know if it has anything to do with that |
| 04:43.46 | Corrodias | i'm disappointed that WoW seems to be unwilling to play my Enrage and Dash sound effects |
| 04:44.18 | Corrodias | or even -sometimes- the shapeshifting roar sound |
| 04:44.41 | Aalny | yeah, I got the latest r87 Clique from today |
| 04:44.43 | Corrodias | my hunter's shot's sound doesn't get played if i start another shot (which starts a bowstring sound effect) before the shot goes off |
| 04:44.56 | Corrodias | it's like it doesn't want to play more than one effect at a time |
| 04:47.21 | Corrodias | after messing with the old settings i had in config.wtf, the latter issue may have evaporated, but it still won't play my Enrage sound |
| 04:47.24 | Kaydeethree | increase the number of sound channels in the sound options menu |
| 04:47.30 | Corrodias | it's set to the max |
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| 05:07.03 | Wraanger | heyaz |
| 05:07.51 | Corrodias | yo |
| 05:07.53 | Corrodias | z |
| 05:12.53 | art3mis | god im bored |
| 05:13.05 | art3mis | i dont even feel like redoing my ui |
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| 05:18.51 | Olison | then something must be wrong with you :( |
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| 05:18.58 | Olison | have you seen a doctor? |
| 05:19.23 | bleeter | doc's too busy tolling general forum 'where voice now kthx!' |
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| 05:21.47 | Olison | :-D |
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| 05:27.19 | Kaydeethree | 100KB/s isn't fast enough, damn it! leech faster! |
| 05:27.42 | Guillotine | lol |
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| 05:37.00 | Kaydeethree | aight, I'm bailing for the night. good luck to those of you in Europe for your version of patch day. |
| 05:37.34 | Cairenn|afk | night Kaydeethree, night all, I'm out too |
| 05:38.10 | Mike-N-Go | Are there any belt enchants in the game? |
| 05:40.04 | bleeter | gnight Kaydeethree, Cairenn|afk |
| 05:44.57 | Mike-N-Go | Why is there not holy riestiance? |
| 05:45.38 | Guillotine | its called being an atheist |
| 05:45.59 | bleeter | cannot resist the light? |
| 05:46.01 | Mike-N-Go | In terms of WoW and spells in WoW, Guillotine |
| 05:46.08 | Kirov | Guillotine - is there no way to change the shortcut keys after the first time you set them? |
| 05:46.13 | Wobwork | Isn't there an elixir of holy prot? |
| 05:46.18 | Guillotine | Kirov: which shortcut keys? |
| 05:46.23 | Guillotine | yah, but it doesn't increase resistance |
| 05:46.26 | Guillotine | just absorbs damage |
| 05:46.31 | Kirov | Guillotine - in the curse client, for search |
| 05:46.56 | Wobwork | maybe deathknights will have holy resist |
| 05:47.44 | Guillotine | Kirov: Right click icon in tray -> Configuration -> WoW -> Select Search Database hotkey |
| 05:48.05 | Guillotine | if anything I'd expect DK to take more damage from holy. like undead in WC3 |
| 05:51.25 | Guillotine | Kirov: got it? |
| 05:51.57 | Kirov | yep, thanks |
| 05:52.46 | MentalPower | Wobwork: Arcane Resist == Holy Resist |
| 05:55.24 | Wobwork | really? |
| 05:55.28 | Wobwork | that seems a bit... odd |
| 05:55.45 | Wobwork | all magic comes from the Light? |
| 05:55.58 | Guillotine | no, arcane resist doesn't count against holy damage |
| 05:56.02 | Guillotine | nothing does |
| 05:56.23 | Guillotine | though supposedly "+5 resist to all" gives 5 to hidden holy |
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| 06:13.35 | sag_ich_nicht | okay |
| 06:13.39 | sag_ich_nicht | so i'm done patching |
| 06:13.46 | sag_ich_nicht | but i'm at work |
| 06:13.51 | sag_ich_nicht | what's broken |
| 06:14.15 | buu | GEIST |
| 06:14.19 | buu | wtb fix =[ |
| 06:14.44 | sag_ich_nicht | ~fail buu |
| 06:14.45 | purl | buu: Fail. |
| 06:14.50 | buu | =[ |
| 06:14.52 | buu | I cry. |
| 06:14.56 | buu | DEEP PURPLE TEARS. |
| 06:14.58 | sag_ich_nicht | [07:52] <+MentalPower> Wobwork: Arcane Resist == Holy Resist <--no that's wrong MentalPower |
| 06:15.07 | Corrodias | none of my addons are malfunctioning, except that i required minor alterations to xperl, xloot, and itemrack |
| 06:15.13 | sag_ich_nicht | [07:56] <+Guillotine> though supposedly "+5 resist to all" gives 5 to hidden holy <--that is also wrong. |
| 06:15.48 | Guillotine | alright |
| 06:15.49 | Guillotine | wasn't sure |
| 06:15.56 | Guillotine | read it as a rumor a long time ago |
| 06:21.55 | Corrodias | " Tracking abilities such as "Find Minerals" now last through death " -- oh boy! |
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| 06:26.38 | _art3mis | xperl just needed to be repositioed |
| 06:27.02 | _art3mis | xloot got broke and autobar is broked(my versions) thats all thats wrong with my ui |
| 06:28.08 | sag_ich_nicht | i heard there is a bug with widescreen? |
| 06:28.15 | art3mis | http://www.varlogarthas.net/images/get-firefox.jpg |
| 06:28.19 | art3mis | not that ive seen |
| 06:28.23 | sag_ich_nicht | or is it a functionality change missrepresented? |
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| 06:28.25 | art3mis | i run 1650x1080 |
| 06:28.32 | sag_ich_nicht | fullscreen? |
| 06:28.41 | art3mis | sorta ;P |
| 06:28.48 | sag_ich_nicht | windowed maxed? |
| 06:28.52 | art3mis | windowed maximized |
| 06:28.56 | art3mis | heh yup |
| 06:29.24 | art3mis | only have one monitor at home |
| 06:29.30 | art3mis | theres no reason for me not to window it |
| 06:30.23 | Thunder_Child | art3mis, same here although i have 2 |
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| 06:30.56 | sag_ich_nicht | i have a reason, my shell would overlay over it otherwise, killing my FPS |
| 06:31.06 | Thunder_Child | although i "self" max it |
| 06:31.08 | art3mis | wow you == lame then |
| 06:31.17 | art3mis | sag that is |
| 06:34.12 | sag_ich_nicht | art3mis |
| 06:34.14 | sag_ich_nicht | no |
| 06:34.17 | sag_ich_nicht | not really |
| 06:34.19 | sag_ich_nicht | now go on |
| 06:34.22 | sag_ich_nicht | /join #geoshell |
| 06:34.38 | sag_ich_nicht | and stab Jaykul until he decides to write a new version of geoshell |
| 06:34.39 | sag_ich_nicht | :X |
| 06:35.43 | art3mis | geoshell is teh suk ;) |
| 06:35.47 | art3mis | get emerge ;P |
| 06:36.21 | art3mis | vdesk, systray, taskbar, and hotkeys, it's all ya need |
| 06:37.47 | sag_ich_nicht | you suck. |
| 06:37.50 | sag_ich_nicht | i like geoshell |
| 06:42.36 | sag_ich_nicht | there, that should prevent any sound issues when i login tonight |
| 06:42.50 | Corrodias | hmm, some of them |
| 06:42.58 | Corrodias | i don't think i ever got my Enrage sound to play |
| 06:43.59 | Corrodias | also... there was a difference in how things sounded when i allowed "hardware" audio processing vs when i disallowed it, forcing software rendering. after 2.2, it seems that it always uses the software version, which is a surprise to people who had been hearing the hardware version of things. i think. |
| 06:44.49 | Corrodias | i base this on the fact that some people in the raid remarked how things sounded different, but they sounded the same to me, and i had the "hardware audio" support disabled, because i prefer the way it sounds |
| 06:45.05 | Corrodias | also there is no setting in the options that makes it sound that way any more |
| 06:45.54 | Olison | \o/ |
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| 06:49.17 | art3mis | hrm it sounds quite rad now |
| 06:49.23 | art3mis | i usually play with sound off |
| 06:50.06 | art3mis | i dont see a menu option for voicechat though |
| 06:51.11 | MentalPower | art3mis: its disabled |
| 06:51.12 | Esamynn | art3mis: not enabled yet |
| 06:51.30 | Esamynn | wednesday for some realms, thurdsay for the rest (is the plan anyways) |
| 06:52.18 | art3mis | oh |
| 06:55.43 | Thunder_Child | till they all fall down and go boom |
| 06:56.49 | art3mis | i suffered pain |
| 06:56.51 | art3mis | i needed law |
| 06:57.30 | Esamynn | Thunder_Child: pesimist :P |
| 06:58.19 | Thunder_Child | Esamynn, realist. The bandwith consumption is at least doubling if not more |
| 06:58.39 | Esamynn | the voice servers are seperate servers |
| 06:58.43 | Esamynn | they've said so |
| 06:59.17 | Esamynn | besides, I like to hope for the best |
| 06:59.30 | Thunder_Child | hope for the best, plan for the worst |
| 07:00.15 | art3mis | well thats neat |
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| 07:00.37 | art3mis | appearantly IBM developed automattic signlanguage for when they cant get real people |
| 07:01.04 | art3mis | moon you were doing lunarsphere werent ya? |
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| 07:07.35 | Esamynn | good night everyone |
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| 08:41.04 | Wobin | hum |
| 08:41.21 | Wobin | interesting |
| 08:41.28 | Wobin | I can change my resolution ingame now |
| 08:41.31 | Wobin | using opengl |
| 08:41.35 | Wobin | without it crashing |
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| 08:50.41 | Kalroth | Wobin: Don't worry, it just saves the crash until later. Right when you open a corpse and spot that epic. *boom* |
| 08:52.54 | Wobin | anyone have an error with PaperDollFrame.lua:1160 ? |
| 08:53.49 | Tem | Wobin, do you use Itemrack? |
| 08:54.30 | Wobin | Lemme check, it's a guildie with the error |
| 08:54.45 | Wobin | aye she does |
| 08:57.37 | Tem | there's a known issue there, I think |
| 08:57.46 | Tem | (it's itemrack's fault) |
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| 08:59.24 | Kalroth | Yup, there's a fix out |
| 09:01.00 | ZealotOnAStick | Anyone have any good anime reccommendations? I need something new and fun to watch. |
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| 09:01.55 | Kalroth | Wobin: http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/download4148-ItemRack |
| 09:02.40 | Wobin | Kalroth: ta |
| 09:03.27 | dreamss | now just autobar |
| 09:03.32 | dreamss | whitch hurts the most |
| 09:03.59 | cryogen | people keep complaining about autobar, but noone has given any useful information |
| 09:04.12 | dreamss | what u need to know? |
| 09:04.12 | cryogen | ive been looking at autobar a lot lately and might be able to fix it |
| 09:04.23 | cryogen | whats wrong with it for a start :) |
| 09:04.23 | dreamss | there is no error, the buttons plain dont work |
| 09:04.36 | cryogen | you have lua errors on i assume? |
| 09:04.39 | dreamss | menu/unlock works |
| 09:04.41 | dreamss | yeah |
| 09:04.45 | ZealotOnAStick | most of what I've heard on Autobar (I don't actually use it) is just "It's working fine. Oh, wait . . . the buttons don't actually do anything. Damn.' |
| 09:05.05 | dreamss | if you mouseover it shows avalible food/water but ant click on any |
| 09:05.09 | cryogen | the next problem is ive lost remote access to my desktop :( |
| 09:05.13 | dreamss | when u click they dont work |
| 09:05.30 | cryogen | is it just items that dont work, or everything? |
| 09:05.52 | cryogen | eg, warlocks mounts, rogue poisons |
| 09:06.02 | dreamss | cant say on that |
| 09:06.13 | dreamss | bandages/food/pots dont work |
| 09:06.19 | samuil | I'm using it - it works for consumables |
| 09:06.23 | cryogen | yeah they're all items |
| 09:06.24 | samuil | at least porions |
| 09:06.31 | samuil | *potions |
| 09:06.44 | samuil | and portals/teleports |
| 09:07.03 | cryogen | are you both using the same version? |
| 09:07.06 | Wobin | gah |
| 09:07.12 | Wobin | I keep forgetting to hit load all |
| 09:07.17 | dreamss | latest from the ace updater |
| 09:07.25 | cryogen | samuil: you too? |
| 09:07.39 | dreamss | everyone's |
| 09:07.46 | cryogen | dreamss: his works :) |
| 09:07.49 | samuil | 2.01.00.04 beta |
| 09:07.57 | dreamss | works on potions |
| 09:08.00 | dreamss | bit not food |
| 09:08.06 | dreamss | but |
| 09:08.09 | cryogen | oh |
| 09:08.28 | dreamss | btw whats the freaking quest track log frame called |
| 09:08.32 | cryogen | that actually might help |
| 09:08.38 | dreamss | something made it tweaky and gotta reset it |
| 09:09.58 | cryogen | does hearthstone work? |
| 09:10.11 | dreamss | i can add it and try |
| 09:10.12 | dreamss | sec |
| 09:10.34 | dreamss | neg |
| 09:10.36 | cryogen | samuil: im assuming you're a mage.. doees your food/water both not work? |
| 09:10.47 | cryogen | but pots do? thats odd |
| 09:10.47 | dreamss | heart is down |
| 09:10.57 | samuil | I don't know, as I'm not using it for food/water |
| 09:10.58 | dreamss | they dont for me |
| 09:11.02 | dreamss | or anyone i know of |
| 09:11.03 | cryogen | hs + food + pots are all container items so should be doing it in the same way |
| 09:11.18 | samuil | hs is working |
| 09:11.19 | dreamss | or healthstone |
| 09:12.21 | cryogen | im at work at the moment or id have a go at reproducing it myself and fixing it |
| 09:12.45 | dreamss | any script commands i could use to help you debug? |
| 09:13.07 | cryogen | maybe |
| 09:16.39 | lolinternet | -_- |
| 09:16.43 | lolinternet | i just broke our crimper |
| 09:17.37 | cryogen | AutoBar.buttons[1]:GetAttribute("type") and AutoBar.buttons[1]:GetAttribute("item") would be interesting to see |
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| 09:18.12 | cryogen | <PROTECTED> |
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| 09:26.14 | sag_ich_nicht | # Blessing of Sacrifice now has a 1-minute cooldown. |
| 09:26.16 | sag_ich_nicht | that is wrong |
| 09:26.19 | sag_ich_nicht | it's 30 seconds now |
| 09:26.33 | sag_ich_nicht | blizzard didn't update the patchnotes since PTR release *facepalm* |
| 09:27.38 | dreamss | they reveented bos? |
| 09:27.55 | sag_ich_nicht | no |
| 09:27.57 | sag_ich_nicht | toned it down |
| 09:28.01 | sag_ich_nicht | it didn't have a cooldown |
| 09:28.05 | sag_ich_nicht | now it has a 30 second cooldown |
| 09:28.10 | sag_ich_nicht | which matches it's duration |
| 09:30.25 | bleeter | sag_ich_nicht: aye, you'll also notice the daze thing's still in the local patchnotes you'll receive via patching... check the website for the final official patchnotes |
| 09:30.38 | sag_ich_nicht | these are wrong too |
| 09:30.41 | sag_ich_nicht | i just checked |
| 09:31.17 | sag_ich_nicht | they just removed the daze entry because it was the most obvious one |
| 09:31.20 | sag_ich_nicht | but copy pasted otherwise |
| 09:33.16 | bleeter | yeah, well it's not as if they've never been known to push bad patchnotes, apologise to everyone and say 'delay due to publish/test cycle, real ones on the website' yet the 'real' ones are wrong too ;) |
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| 11:46.46 | bleeter | holy crap |
| 11:47.08 | |FF|Im2good4u | did jesus sh!t on your keybord ? |
| 11:47.21 | bleeter | i believe it's possible, just gotta double check |
| 11:48.03 | Kalroth | Did you find porn on the internet? |
| 11:50.25 | bleeter | totally possible too |
| 11:50.52 | bleeter | where jesus = dolby-wowi, shit = crapped out Last-Modified headers, and porn = now working correctly ;) |
| 11:53.52 | bleeter | hmm, though for some reason it's not improving the original bug report I had, it's certainly an improvement ;) |
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| 12:17.32 | Mr_Rabies2 | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:17.36 | Mr_Rabies2 | holy crap, that is amazing |
| 12:17.58 | Mr_Rabies2 | hell of a way to end a friendship, i'd say |
| 12:18.17 | Mr_Rabies2 | oops, the ads on that site may be NWS, i forgot about CH's ads :x |
| 12:25.23 | Mr_Rabies2 | woohoo |
| 12:25.27 | Mr_Rabies2 | i can booterang in flight form now |
| 12:25.43 | Mr_Rabies2 | so i just wasted 200g :x |
| 12:26.51 | krka | that's so mean, Mr_Rabies2 |
| 12:27.26 | Mr_Rabies2 | it's so delightfully evil |
| 12:28.29 | Mr_Rabies2 | argh |
| 12:28.36 | Mr_Rabies2 | everything seems to be taking a lot longer to load in 2.2 |
| 12:28.37 | Mr_Rabies2 | for some reason |
| 12:28.42 | Mr_Rabies2 | like, npcs and whatnot |
| 12:29.41 | Mr_Rabies2 | like, it took almost 2 minutes to load a flight master @_@ |
| 12:30.23 | Mr_Rabies2 | minimap too |
| 12:30.29 | Mr_Rabies2 | this is so weird |
| 12:31.26 | cncfanatics | hmmm, can the secure state driver to show/hide stuff onclick - mousever of a button |
| 12:31.47 | Thelyna | Mr_Rabies2: outdated cached stuff maybe? I dunno, just guessing here |
| 12:31.54 | Mr_Rabies2 | i dunno, Thelyna |
| 12:32.03 | Mr_Rabies2 | i deleted my cache folder and it still persists |
| 12:32.12 | Mr_Rabies2 | maybe that's why, may it was having to recreate all that stuff |
| 12:32.20 | Mr_Rabies2 | i dunno |
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| 12:44.43 | Wobin | what's the cvar for pitch? |
| 12:45.41 | Mr_Rabies2 | /console set pitchlimit degrees |
| 12:45.45 | Mr_Rabies2 | if that's what you mean |
| 12:46.30 | Wobin | aye |
| 12:59.48 | Fisker- | just /console pitchlimit |
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| 13:11.55 | cryogen | cncfanatics: rephrase that question please :) |
| 13:12.38 | cncfanatics | cryogen |
| 13:12.40 | cncfanatics | I have a button |
| 13:12.46 | cncfanatics | and when a user clicks or mouseovers over it |
| 13:12.49 | cncfanatics | I want to show other buttons |
| 13:12.54 | cncfanatics | how can I achieve that ? |
| 13:13.18 | cryogen | in short: anchors |
| 13:13.36 | cryogen | in long: i dont have my code in front of me to show you an example |
| 13:14.08 | cryogen | basically you create a button which derives from some Anchor template and then set up a statemap |
| 13:14.24 | cncfanatics | I already got lots of possible remaps set up, it has to live along with it fine too |
| 13:17.45 | cryogen | cncfanatics: the only way im aware of getting popup buttons on mouseover is to use Anchor frames |
| 13:18.04 | cncfanatics | and onclick ? |
| 13:20.27 | cryogen | it inherits from the other secure templates, so i assume it can do click stuff too |
| 13:20.34 | cryogen | never used that myself though |
| 13:21.32 | Industrial | so um, site getting hammered? |
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| 13:27.11 | cncfanatics | ofc it is |
| 13:27.49 | cryogen | cncfanatics: if you havent looked at it yet, SecureStateHeader.lua talks about the different things you can do with it WRT click/mouseover |
| 13:31.30 | cncfanatics | tnx |
| 13:31.32 | cncfanatics | will look shortly |
| 13:34.20 | Industrial | http://img471.imageshack.us/img471/5575/wowscrnshot092607153254km3.jpg |
| 13:35.23 | cncfanatics | cryogen, most info in the securestateheader help is depricated -.- |
| 13:35.45 | Kalroth | Industrial: Nice server :( |
| 13:36.00 | cryogen | it is? seems to be what people are using.. |
| 13:36.05 | cryogen | still works at least :p |
| 13:36.19 | Industrial | Kalroth: :D init |
| 13:37.08 | Industrial | eu grimbatroll, full of portuguese who dont give a damn about anyone talking in english |
| 13:38.44 | cncfanatics | cryogen, the secure state driver shld be used for most stuff there |
| 13:39.05 | cncfanatics | :o Cairenn, u shld know an answer to what i'm asking |
| 13:39.27 | cryogen | ah, well, it's the same principle |
| 13:39.33 | cryogen | the work is still done on the button |
| 13:40.29 | cryogen | but if you get a better answer im listening hard, im currently doing this sort of stuff too :) |
| 13:41.28 | cncfanatics | I'm gonna need it for flexbar, and it has to be totaly user configurable, so its a bit crap to do for some things |
| 13:41.36 | cncfanatics | (namely, combining multiple ones without conflicts) |
| 13:43.25 | cryogen | i dont envy you :) |
| 13:43.32 | cryogen | thankfully my state machine is rather simple |
| 13:43.40 | cncfanatics | mine ain't, heck, but I quite like it :p |
| 13:43.53 | cncfanatics | I ended up generating statebutton attributes on the fly for buttons |
| 13:44.03 | cryogen | fun |
| 13:44.13 | cncfanatics | no real choice when every button can have different settings eh ? |
| 13:44.36 | cncfanatics | btw, my state driver code is funny too |
| 13:44.44 | cncfanatics | it has to have remaps for every possible combo :) |
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| 13:46.38 | cryogen | truely evil |
| 13:46.58 | Nom- | Fun & Games |
| 13:47.07 | Nom- | My LAN connection has been renegotiating all the time |
| 13:47.11 | Nom- | Keep losing connections :/ |
| 13:53.08 | cncfanatics | Cairenn, my lovely secure stuff expert, u around ? :p |
| 13:53.25 | Cairenn | I'm around, but I have no clue on the secure stuff |
| 13:54.43 | cncfanatics | hmmm, I thought u had, who was the secure stuff expert again then -.- |
| 13:55.01 | Cairenn | iriel, clad, tem, es, cog |
| 13:55.56 | Cairenn | most likely one of them |
| 14:00.34 | cryogen | cncfanatics: cog has helped me loads with secure stuff, you probably meant him :) |
| 14:02.15 | cncfanatics | I'll first try to figure it out myself |
| 14:02.19 | cncfanatics | gonna have fun with that first :) |
| 14:02.32 | cryogen | yes it is somewhat fun :p |
| 14:02.45 | cryogen | in a weird, perverted kinda way |
| 14:02.46 | zenzelezz | there are a lot of C-nicks in this channel, easily confused |
| 14:03.29 | krka | c is just an inferior version of k |
| 14:04.08 | zenzelezz | we hardly use C over here |
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| 14:04.19 | cryogen | c > all |
| 14:04.22 | cncfanatics | anyone having stuttering sound in wine ? |
| 14:04.29 | cncfanatics | its stuttering a lot here since last patch |
| 14:04.44 | krka | yeah, drinking wine makes me stutter |
| 14:06.01 | bleeter | cncfanatics: have you tried playing with the Config.wtf settings as per the WoWWiki Wine page, emulated vs hardware accel, bitrates, etc. |
| 14:06.29 | cncfanatics | bleeter, the wtf stuff is set |
| 14:06.59 | cncfanatics | oh, and another thing, if I keep wow open and change the settings in winecfg, I have to restart wow to make em apply or they're applied right away ? |
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| 14:07.56 | bleeter | not too sure on the restart, I always set my winecfg then fire the game up 'to be sure'. the other thing, are you running in Vista or XP mode? I believe Vista mode is problematic |
| 14:08.06 | cncfanatics | lemme check, think its xp |
| 14:08.30 | TS|Skrom | krka that was awesome :p |
| 14:08.33 | cncfanatics | xp |
| 14:09.17 | krka | thank you! |
| 14:09.22 | cncfanatics | what settings u using bleeter ? first gonna try with urs |
| 14:10.35 | bleeter | XP, OSS, Full accel, 48000, 16bits, no emulation on the driver... |
| 14:11.05 | krka | wine has vista mode already? |
| 14:11.08 | krka | is it working? |
| 14:11.13 | bleeter | SoundOutputSystem "1", SoundNumChannels "32", SoundBufferSize "250" |
| 14:11.23 | Cairenn | hahahaha, dear JT stepped in it again! |
| 14:11.35 | krka | john torian? |
| 14:11.38 | zenzelezz | who stepped in what? |
| 14:11.42 | Cairenn | jack thomson |
| 14:11.46 | krka | oh |
| 14:11.47 | Cairenn | http://gamepolitics.com/2007/09/26/judge-spanks-jack-thompson-for-sending-gay-porn-with-court-filing/ |
| 14:11.53 | sag_ich_nicht | lol |
| 14:11.55 | sag_ich_nicht | http://www.adobe.com/shockwave/download/download.cgi?P1_Prod_Version=../../../../../../../../..//etc/passwd%00 |
| 14:11.59 | sag_ich_nicht | :X |
| 14:12.08 | Cairenn | he's the nut job that's always our for blood with the gaming community |
| 14:12.10 | zenzelezz | does Thompson ever step out of it in the first place? |
| 14:12.10 | cncfanatics | only diff with me is buffer size |
| 14:12.40 | krka | mm.... nuts... |
| 14:12.59 | krka | LOL sag_ich_nicht |
| 14:13.52 | cncfanatics | sag_ich_nicht, sad |
| 14:13.56 | cncfanatics | even I'm not that stupid |
| 14:14.03 | krka | awww, sure you are! |
| 14:15.54 | cryogen | sag_ich_nicht: i would be slightly more worried by something like: http://www.adobe.com/shockwave/download/download.cgi?P1_Prod_Version=../../../../../../../../..//usr/local/apache/conf/ssl.key/www.adobe.com.key%00 |
| 14:16.14 | krka | ROFL |
| 14:16.18 | sag_ich_nicht | LOL |
| 14:16.29 | krka | where did you find these links? |
| 14:16.30 | cryogen | can someone say "oops"? |
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| 14:16.49 | cncfanatics | someone tell those idiots ? |
| 14:17.11 | cncfanatics | u can just get their private key in plaintext & start intercepting comms :p |
| 14:17.28 | cryogen | well, you need the password too |
| 14:17.41 | cryogen | but you can probably figure that out |
| 14:18.01 | cryogen | assuming there is one |
| 14:18.33 | krka | how do you even setup apache to do that? |
| 14:18.42 | krka | no wait... it's the cgi app |
| 14:19.48 | cryogen | seriously, who writes a cgi with that kind of flaw in it |
| 14:19.52 | cryogen | that hasnt been done since like 1998 |
| 14:20.09 | Intangir | hey wine users, is there a way to run 1 wine app with oss, and another with alsa? |
| 14:20.14 | Intangir | at the same time |
| 14:20.15 | krka | seriously, who gives the cgi user access to those files? |
| 14:20.34 | cryogen | well it's running as the same user as the webserver i guess |
| 14:20.58 | cryogen | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:21.21 | sag_ich_nicht | indeed |
| 14:21.22 | cncfanatics | that apache file ain't |
| 14:21.32 | cncfanatics | private key anyone ? |
| 14:21.37 | cncfanatics | i'm gonna mail them their key I think |
| 14:21.38 | cncfanatics | by email |
| 14:21.44 | sag_ich_nicht | using their key? |
| 14:21.44 | cryogen | it must be readable by the webserver process though |
| 14:21.45 | sag_ich_nicht | :X |
| 14:21.48 | cryogen | LOL |
| 14:21.52 | krka | i thought apache ran as root, and spawned www-data for cgi or something |
| 14:21.58 | cncfanatics | i'm gonna mail them their key using their key, good idea |
| 14:21.58 | sag_ich_nicht | no |
| 14:22.00 | krka | and www-data shouldn't be able to access that |
| 14:22.01 | cryogen | sign it with their key |
| 14:22.04 | sag_ich_nicht | apache running as root is a BAD idea. |
| 14:22.18 | cryogen | krka: apache will run as whatever user it is told to as soon as you start it up |
| 14:22.26 | cryogen | after its set up the listener on port 80 and some other stuff |
| 14:22.40 | cryogen | then it will spawn cgis under the same user |
| 14:22.42 | krka | oh right, then i misunderstood it |
| 14:22.55 | krka | weird... it should run cgi as its own user, imo |
| 14:23.02 | cryogen | you need root to do that |
| 14:23.05 | cryogen | it must lose root asap |
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| 14:23.12 | krka | true |
| 14:23.29 | krka | can't you give www-data rights to su to a specified user? |
| 14:23.51 | cryogen | no, sudo can do it, but it works by the binary being setuid root |
| 14:24.00 | krka | right |
| 14:24.01 | sag_ich_nicht | uhm |
| 14:24.08 | sag_ich_nicht | just do the same that's done for passwd |
| 14:24.15 | sag_ich_nicht | except using a different fileowner |
| 14:24.18 | sag_ich_nicht | duh |
| 14:24.20 | krka | where did you find that link |
| 14:24.26 | sag_ich_nicht | the internet. |
| 14:24.27 | krka | found the flaw yourself? |
| 14:24.28 | cryogen | the key? some one else posted it |
| 14:24.31 | sag_ich_nicht | krka: no |
| 14:24.31 | krka | i see |
| 14:24.56 | bleeter | it's all over IRC from what I can gather |
| 14:25.04 | sag_ich_nicht | yes |
| 14:25.06 | cryogen | not surprising :) |
| 14:25.13 | bleeter | I posted it in another # here, someone there said they'd seen it in about 3 diff chans in the past 5 mins |
| 14:25.21 | bleeter | on diff networks |
| 14:25.41 | cryogen | about 2 seconds after i posted ti on another network it appear on a differnt channel on the same network :) |
| 14:25.42 | krka | someone write an app to grab a copy of the file system |
| 14:25.52 | zenzelezz | probably on Slashdot and digg in a moment, if not already |
| 14:25.58 | Intangir | cryogen: what did you post? |
| 14:26.03 | cryogen | read up |
| 14:26.14 | Intangir | too much stuff i missed the context |
| 14:26.22 | Intangir | a link mirrored to other irc servers? |
| 14:26.28 | cryogen | adobe.com exposing their webserver's filesystem |
| 14:26.34 | cryogen | including their ssl private key |
| 14:27.15 | Intangir | wow thats dumb |
| 14:27.21 | cncfanatics | cryogen, aka, adobe being RETARDS |
| 14:27.23 | cryogen | ever so slightly :) |
| 14:27.26 | cncfanatics | that kind of mistakes is just ... |
| 14:27.29 | Intangir | how do you browse? |
| 14:27.39 | cryogen | cncfanatics: like i said, hasnt been done since 1998 it's that stupid |
| 14:27.40 | cncfanatics | http://www.adobe.com/shockwave/download/download.cgi?P1_Prod_Version=../../../../../../../../..//usr/local/apache/conf/ssl.key/www.adobe.com.key%00 |
| 14:27.45 | krka | www.adobe.com/website-filesystembrowser/ |
| 14:27.54 | cryogen | lol |
| 14:29.27 | cncfanatics | hmmm |
| 14:29.28 | cncfanatics | actualy |
| 14:29.51 | cncfanatics | cld u run the cd command ? |
| 14:29.58 | Intangir | i cant seem to find any other files thru here |
| 14:30.15 | cryogen | its not running commands, it's just outputing the contents of a file to http |
| 14:30.22 | cncfanatics | too bad, wish it cld run commands :p |
| 14:30.32 | cncfanatics | server wld be down already if it cld though |
| 14:30.36 | Intangir | ya but i cant output any other contents |
| 14:30.56 | Intangir | oh i found passwd ;) |
| 14:30.57 | Intangir | lol |
| 14:31.03 | cryogen | well if it's half-secure you should only be able to see anything that the webserver can |
| 14:31.18 | cncfanatics | seems its root :p |
| 14:31.26 | cryogen | i doubt it |
| 14:31.29 | cryogen | try /etc/shadow |
| 14:31.50 | Intangir | thats funny |
| 14:31.58 | Intangir | shadow wouldnt load |
| 14:32.00 | sag_ich_nicht | mhm |
| 14:32.02 | cryogen | then its not root |
| 14:32.02 | sag_ich_nicht | duh |
| 14:32.06 | sag_ich_nicht | duh |
| 14:32.14 | cryogen | they arent quite *that* dumb |
| 14:32.15 | Intangir | what do you mean duh |
| 14:32.16 | sag_ich_nicht | now go and try find the ddls of their products |
| 14:32.24 | bleeter | could be a non-/etc/shadow based auth system :P |
| 14:32.25 | Intangir | if they were smart we wouldnt be able to see any of this stuff in the first place |
| 14:32.40 | sag_ich_nicht | bleeter then passwd would contain the files |
| 14:32.44 | Intangir | lets see if we can find any DBs |
| 14:33.23 | cncfanatics | hmmm, u shld be able to find the mysql db's yes |
| 14:33.26 | cryogen | wonder if the box is used for anything else :p |
| 14:33.28 | cncfanatics | or whatever they use |
| 14:33.50 | Intangir | i think i found a mysql db |
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| 14:34.00 | Intangir | nope nevermind, just lag |
| 14:34.04 | cncfanatics | they're not gonna give us that much fun are they ? |
| 14:34.16 | cryogen | what, their ssl private key isnt enough? :0 |
| 14:34.17 | cryogen | :p |
| 14:34.25 | Intangir | i cant find any system logs either, all their paths are nonstandard wacky paths |
| 14:34.27 | cncfanatics | wish I cld run echo "" > /etc/passwd |
| 14:34.44 | cryogen | does it output the contents of directories? |
| 14:34.48 | cncfanatics | no |
| 14:34.51 | cryogen | shame :( |
| 14:34.52 | cncfanatics | that'd be too easy :p |
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| 14:35.03 | Intangir | oh well i better stopp searching |
| 14:35.10 | krka | dude... what about /dev/hda or something? |
| 14:35.10 | sag_ich_nicht | [16:33] <cryogen> wonder if the box is used for anything else :p <--hosting downloads for software, probably |
| 14:35.14 | Intangir | LOL |
| 14:35.17 | sag_ich_nicht | LOL |
| 14:35.18 | krka | wouldn't that send a complete copy of the disk? |
| 14:35.28 | cryogen | haha |
| 14:35.29 | bleeter | who's worked out the OS yet? :P |
| 14:35.32 | deltron | something brokded? |
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| 14:35.36 | bleeter | Solaris 10 11/06 s10s_u3wos_10 SPARC |
| 14:35.41 | cncfanatics | it wld krka :p |
| 14:35.44 | krka | wld? |
| 14:35.48 | sag_ich_nicht | would. |
| 14:35.51 | sag_ich_nicht | but it doesn't |
| 14:35.54 | cncfanatics | dev hda dsnt work |
| 14:35.55 | krka | could anyone try it? :) |
| 14:35.57 | cryogen | it's solaris |
| 14:36.00 | krka | right |
| 14:36.00 | cryogen | so it wont |
| 14:36.03 | krka | so what is the disk called? |
| 14:36.05 | cryogen | it's probably also a scsi disk |
| 14:36.09 | cryogen | rather than ide |
| 14:36.13 | deltron | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:36.17 | Legorol | apparently i hvae a message waiting for me on purl |
| 14:36.19 | Legorol | how do i read it? |
| 14:36.23 | krka | someone says it's c0d0t0 |
| 14:36.24 | deltron | i hate solaris' disk structure |
| 14:36.32 | cncfanatics | how does solaris do its disks ? |
| 14:36.40 | cryogen | hmm |
| 14:36.41 | krka | /dev/c0d0t0 maybe |
| 14:36.41 | deltron | yeah it's like c0d0t0 |
| 14:36.46 | cryogen | you could probably realy piss off the webserver |
| 14:36.49 | cryogen | and do /dev/urandom |
| 14:36.55 | bleeter | controller, disk, target, slice |
| 14:36.57 | deltron | df -h work? |
| 14:36.59 | bleeter | something like that |
| 14:37.10 | cncfanatics | dsnt work cryogen |
| 14:37.13 | cncfanatics | think /dev/ is locked |
| 14:37.19 | sag_ich_nicht | probably |
| 14:37.21 | Polarina | bleeter: Does the in-game knowldege base work for you? |
| 14:37.30 | cryogen | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:37.34 | cncfanatics | even dev null gives a nonexistant error |
| 14:37.39 | cryogen | oh? |
| 14:37.58 | cncfanatics | either there is no dev dir, or the server can't access it at all (doubt that) |
| 14:38.02 | krka | damn, it didnt wor |
| 14:38.03 | Intangir | so anyway anyone using wine with the new version? my vent doesnt work with alsa |
| 14:38.06 | Nom- | bleh wtb more raiders |
| 14:38.23 | Nom- | we only got one boss tonight coz we didn't have enough healers or dps |
| 14:38.30 | sag_ich_nicht | mhm |
| 14:38.30 | Nom- | kinda sucks :( |
| 14:38.38 | sag_ich_nicht | the server should be able to access /var/log |
| 14:38.41 | deltron | my guild finally downed lurker :P |
| 14:39.01 | sag_ich_nicht | what's the solaris equivalent to /var/log ?::X |
| 14:39.37 | cryogen | LOL |
| 14:39.38 | cryogen | how ironic |
| 14:39.50 | cryogen | i go to adobe.com, i am presented with a Flash Advert |
| 14:40.01 | cncfanatics | adobe flash ? |
| 14:40.02 | deltron | haxxed |
| 14:40.04 | cryogen | "There is public information - there is private information and there is VERY private information" |
| 14:40.34 | cncfanatics | like private keys ? cryogen ? |
| 14:40.35 | cryogen | no its a regular ad i think :p |
| 14:40.51 | cryogen | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:40.56 | cryogen | vfstab |
| 14:41.13 | cncfanatics | vfstab ? |
| 14:41.17 | cncfanatics | wth is that stupid naming |
| 14:41.19 | cncfanatics | its fstab damnit |
| 14:41.27 | cncfanatics | (already tried fstab here :p) |
| 14:41.30 | deltron | http://www.kobhi.com/solaris/disk_management/solaris_disk_management.htm |
| 14:41.37 | cryogen | that explains why /dev doesnt work |
| 14:41.38 | cryogen | its /devices |
| 14:42.02 | cryogen | nvm thats devfs |
| 14:43.55 | bleeter | interesting, I'm now getting Solaris 9 9/04 s9s_u7wos_09 |
| 14:44.05 | bleeter | from it's /etc/release, as opposed to the Sol10 from earlier |
| 14:44.26 | bleeter | now back to sol10 |
| 14:44.35 | sag_ich_nicht | bleeter: round rubin? |
| 14:44.46 | cryogen | it's probably more than one server |
| 14:44.50 | sag_ich_nicht | yes |
| 14:45.24 | bleeter | all of which are broken, not just the response from wherever the cgi's being handled |
| 14:45.31 | bleeter | gee, someone's gunna be outta a job today ;) |
| 14:45.33 | deltron | quite a few of our solaris boxes at work just got upgraded to 2.4 :P |
| 14:45.42 | bleeter | 2.4?! |
| 14:45.43 | cncfanatics | bleeter, that programmer is so getting fired indeed |
| 14:45.53 | deltron | yes, 2.4 :P |
| 14:46.09 | bleeter | that takes me back... quite a few years rofl |
| 14:46.11 | cncfanatics | long live debian tbh |
| 14:46.22 | sag_ich_nicht | yes. |
| 14:46.25 | cncfanatics | apt-get = win |
| 14:46.27 | cryogen | wonder who found the ssl key |
| 14:46.28 | cryogen | and how |
| 14:46.32 | sag_ich_nicht | apt-get is deprecated |
| 14:46.35 | cryogen | its not exactly a easily guessable path |
| 14:46.36 | sag_ich_nicht | use aptitude |
| 14:46.46 | cncfanatics | sag_ich_nicht, aptitude is a wrapper around apt-get anyway ? |
| 14:46.49 | cncfanatics | I don't like ncurses |
| 14:47.13 | bleeter | nwcurses ftw! :P |
| 14:47.18 | sag_ich_nicht | cncfanatics: but it's not "just" a wrapper in etch |
| 14:47.43 | zenzelezz | what don't you like about ncurses? |
| 14:47.45 | sag_ich_nicht | join #debian for details, cba to explain it :X |
| 14:48.21 | cncfanatics | sag_ich_nicht, explain :p |
| 14:48.25 | cncfanatics | I'm using unstable btw :p |
| 14:48.33 | cncfanatics | what does it do more then apt-get ? |
| 14:49.03 | sag_ich_nicht | does a few more safety checks |
| 14:49.07 | sag_ich_nicht | and now i have to leave |
| 14:49.08 | sag_ich_nicht | bye |
| 14:49.31 | bleeter | it makes up for apt-get's broken-ness :P |
| 14:50.18 | cncfanatics | heh, rarely breaks for me |
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| 14:58.27 | zenzelezz | Received 15 of item: [Apexis Shard]. |
| 14:58.35 | zenzelezz | what was wrong with [Apexis Shard]x15? |
| 14:58.48 | cryogen | they changed that? |
| 14:58.52 | Polarina | They changed that? |
| 14:59.00 | zenzelezz | yes |
| 14:59.11 | Polarina | I don't believe that, at least for now. |
| 14:59.12 | zenzelezz | at least from quest rewards |
| 14:59.36 | cryogen | what an odd thing to change |
| 14:59.48 | zenzelezz | from vendors it's still "You receive item: [arf]x200." |
| 15:00.11 | Polarina | zenzelezz: "Working as unitended." |
| 15:00.17 | Polarina | So basically, report it. |
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| 15:03.27 | zenzelezz | hrm, did they change # showtooltip or something? |
| 15:05.22 | Polarina | Yes. |
| 15:05.29 | Polarina | Now it has to be #showtooltip |
| 15:05.35 | Polarina | And conditionals in lower-case. |
| 15:07.38 | zenzelezz | there we go, cheers |
| 15:08.07 | zenzelezz | also had to modify my Charge/Intervene/Intercept macro or it would show ? in Defensive Stance if I had no target :-o |
| 15:08.11 | Polarina | They did it to provide you a 100 times increase in performance for conditional macros. |
| 15:08.27 | zenzelezz | I don't object to it, I just didn't recall it from the notes =) |
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| 15:10.11 | cncfanatics | not 100 times increase though |
| 15:10.20 | zenzelezz | nope, but a big one still |
| 15:17.31 | zenzelezz | also wonder why they made you earn Ogri'la past exalted suddenly... doesn't make a difference, but looks better on the reputation tab when it's maxed |
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| 15:19.11 | Lej | anyone know where I can find documentation on how to create titan panel addons? My google-fu is weak |
| 15:19.41 | Valaron|Work | You mean the plugins? |
| 15:19.46 | Lej | yes i DO |
| 15:20.55 | Valaron|Work | http://www.wowwiki.com/Titan_Panel near the bottom. |
| 15:21.52 | Lej | Thanks |
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| 15:31.52 | cog|work | Ok ... so... somehow my RAM made it back to CA from Memphis and is now out for delivery and the package that DIDN'T get sent out of state is still at a sorting facility... |
| 15:31.57 | cog|work | GG FedEx |
| 15:32.18 | TS|Skrom | ~fail |
| 15:32.19 | purl | ACTION gives ts|skrom the worst grade imaginable, an A minus... minus! |
| 15:32.29 | cog|work | ~fail TS|Skrom |
| 15:32.29 | purl | TS|Skrom: Fail. |
| 15:32.32 | TS|Skrom | no purl, no me, cog|work |
| 15:32.45 | Lopeppeppy | I'm always fascinated to see where my packages wander. And going through customs is a hoot. |
| 15:32.55 | TS|Skrom | O.o |
| 15:33.00 | TS|Skrom | taken out of context that's pretty fun |
| 15:33.14 | deltron | fail cog|work |
| 15:33.25 | TS|Skrom | pssst you forgot the ~ |
| 15:34.19 | deltron | was just stating |
| 15:34.24 | Intangir | zenzelezz: that rep thing? you mean get exaulted and then 1000 more? ive seen that before on other reps too |
| 15:34.29 | Intangir | wonder why they do it like that |
| 15:36.45 | TS|Skrom | savagery... can't proc off ranged attacks right? I mean.. no enchants do that yet.. do they? |
| 15:37.07 | zenzelezz | I watched my first copy of WoW go from New Mexico to Paris in half a day |
| 15:37.13 | TS|Skrom | nm |
| 15:37.16 | Lopeppeppy | TS|Skrom -- not that I know of. |
| 15:37.21 | TS|Skrom | I just noticed that savagery isn't a proc XD |
| 15:37.33 | Lopeppeppy | Oh well then. |
| 15:37.39 | TS|Skrom | stupid naming conventions... why couldn't they just call it +70 attack power |
| 15:37.57 | Lopeppeppy | Because they hate you? |
| 15:38.04 | TS|Skrom | apparently |
| 15:38.16 | zenzelezz | you mean it's not obvious what Mongoose should do? |
| 15:38.17 | TS|Skrom | I kept seeing all these hunters with it and I'm like... um why? hehe |
| 15:38.30 | deltron | all I know is, I am going to make a lot of gold with the new enchants I can do :P |
| 15:38.39 | deltron | I hope :P |
| 15:38.41 | TS|Skrom | nice! |
| 15:39.45 | TS|Skrom | million dollar questions... why is soulfrost 54 and sunfire 50? |
| 15:40.09 | Lopeppeppy | Frost is cooler? |
| 15:40.18 | TS|Skrom | ~rimshot |
| 15:40.19 | purl | ba-dum CHH |
| 15:40.55 | Lopeppeppy | Sorry... I don't do that often, I swear. |
| 15:41.12 | TS|Skrom | don't apologize, I loved it :P |
| 15:41.42 | Lopeppeppy | Well, you're a twisted individual, TS|Skrom, we've already established that.... |
| 15:41.50 | TS|Skrom | fair enough |
| 15:42.06 | zenzelezz | are you saying the rest of us are dull? |
| 15:45.13 | TS|Skrom | omg blizzard just totally pwned me |
| 15:45.25 | TS|Skrom | http://wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Gul%27dan&n=Gann <-- They said I was untalented :( |
| 15:46.15 | Lopeppeppy | Aww. *hugs* |
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| 15:56.17 | cncfanatics | TS|Skrom |
| 15:56.22 | cncfanatics | because frost spells have a slow component |
| 15:56.28 | cncfanatics | so they benefit less from spelldmg |
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| 15:56.40 | cncfanatics | 54 frostdmg actualy gives the same net increase then 50 firedmg (frostbolt vs fireball) |
| 15:57.21 | Lopeppeppy | That was my guess, but I don't have a mage old enough to understand the mechanics. |
| 15:57.52 | cncfanatics | my old pretbc char was a mage :) |
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| 16:02.19 | TS|Skrom | shadow spells don't have a slow component :p |
| 16:02.28 | TS|Skrom | they just like warlocks and priests better :D |
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| 16:12.41 | TS|Skrom | sweet Just deleted exactly 500 emails with the subject line : Are you wanting a bigger penis? |
| 16:12.57 | zenzelezz | they want to be really sure |
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| 16:18.21 | TS|Skrom | Subject "Be 18 again!" What? Socially awkward, working part time at The Home Depot counting down the days til graduation? pass |
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| 16:30.49 | Laric | where can I find a diff on the framexml? |
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| 16:33.11 | cog|work | dolby-wowi: are premium members meant to have an ad on the ultra low bandwidth page? ;) |
| 16:33.34 | Elkano | Laric, I would say http://wdn.wowinterface.com/ but there's none live, yet |
| 16:33.52 | cog|work | Laric can you do diffs yourself? you can download the old FrameXML from that site and run one... |
| 16:33.54 | Kaydeethree | I've been putting diffs up at http://spyglass-server.com/wowints/ |
| 16:33.59 | cog|work | or that :) |
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| 16:34.18 | cog|work | dolby-wowi: and if the answer's "yes", i don't blame ya :P |
| 16:36.28 | cog|work | Kaydeethree: would you mind doing a unified diff for 2.1.3-2.2.0? |
| 16:36.44 | cog|work | ;ioakij kjak |
| 16:36.46 | cog|work | scratch that |
| 16:36.51 | cog|work | <---- l2r |
| 16:36.53 | Kaydeethree | should be up http://spyglass-server.com/wowints/2.1.3.6898-2.2.0.7272.diff |
| 16:38.45 | cog|work | O.o |
| 16:38.48 | cog|work | http://kotaku.com/gaming/only-in-china/shanda-says-no-to-men-role-playing-women-characters-302795.php |
| 16:39.59 | Mr_Rabies2 | cog |
| 16:40.04 | Mr_Rabies2 | that just makes it worse, imo |
| 16:40.47 | Mr_Rabies2 | a pretty significant barrier is knowing there's a good chance that female character is male IRL, which keeps some people from going into creepymode |
| 16:43.15 | zenzelezz | imagine all the people that would have to reroll |
| 16:43.27 | cncfanatics | antone know how to make a button change the attributes of another button when clicked ? pretty sure thats possible |
| 16:45.31 | Cairenn | cog|work: probably not, it's likely he just forgot to put the code into that page for premiums, but he'll verify when he wakes |
| 16:48.24 | sag_ich_nicht | I have 476 folders in my addons folder |
| 16:48.36 | sag_ich_nicht | i only had 2 error messages on login, and 1 of them i had already before the patch. |
| 16:48.50 | sag_ich_nicht | btw. |
| 16:48.54 | sag_ich_nicht | WorldDefense is writable. |
| 16:49.02 | Kaydeethree | oops? |
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| 16:52.17 | art3mis | wow this new mail system is retarded |
| 16:52.36 | art3mis | put up 10 runecloth stacks i get 10 notifications then 10 emails with the gold |
| 16:54.21 | Mr_Rabies2 | awesome, my sound card is increasing my latency |
| 16:54.22 | Mr_Rabies2 | @_@ |
| 16:54.49 | Mr_Rabies2 | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=1778586879&sid=1 |
| 16:58.11 | foxlit | What did the patch do to UI scaling? |
| 16:58.14 | Mr_Rabies2 | voice chat was a good idea but so far the implementation has been nothing short of awful |
| 16:58.26 | Mr_Rabies2 | foxlit, stuff scales based on its closest corner now, iirc |
| 16:58.39 | sysrage | ya my sound was destroyed. i can't hear myself cast stuff unless i turn of surround sound |
| 16:58.45 | sysrage | off* |
| 16:58.54 | foxlit | I have a feeling all default frames are significantly larger now |
| 16:59.03 | foxlit | Fonts included |
| 16:59.12 | Mr_Rabies2 | mine are the same |
| 16:59.17 | art3mis | foxlit: play windowed and there isnt an issue |
| 16:59.19 | Mr_Rabies2 | i did |
| 16:59.25 | Mr_Rabies2 | /console set UiScale .75 |
| 16:59.31 | foxlit | art3mis: I am playing in windowed mode |
| 16:59.34 | Mr_Rabies2 | and everything lined back up after a ui reload |
| 16:59.43 | sysrage | my UI was destroyed too. i had to shrink UI scaling by a ton to get anywhere near my old look. and it's still not right |
| 16:59.45 | art3mis | wierd, nothing on mine is effected |
| 16:59.55 | art3mis | in WS mode too |
| 17:00.51 | sysrage | hmm wonder if there's a thread about evocation yet |
| 17:00.59 | foxlit | Wonder if they just reset uiscale to 1 |
| 17:01.06 | foxlit | UIParent:SetScale(0.9) seems to work |
| 17:01.34 | Mr_Rabies2 | make sure to reloadui afterwards |
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| 17:01.46 | foxlit | That'd wipe that. |
| 17:01.56 | Mr_Rabies2 | ah |
| 17:01.59 | Mr_Rabies2 | /console set UiScale .9 |
| 17:02.03 | Mr_Rabies2 | then reload, works fine for me |
| 17:02.04 | Mr_Rabies2 | :o |
| 17:03.21 | Shirik|Ecole | set is superfluous :P |
| 17:03.30 | foxlit | And it won't save |
| 17:03.37 | foxlit | Unless you have UiScale in your config beforehand |
| 17:04.01 | foxlit | Or something along those liens, anyway. |
| 17:04.23 | foxlit | Could use the video config scale slider, but not /console commands (wouldn't stick) |
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| 17:06.59 | Mr_Rabies2 | it's in the config.wtf already iirc |
| 17:07.21 | Mr_Rabies2 | it's sticking fine for me |
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| 17:08.41 | sag_ich_nicht | mhm |
| 17:08.54 | sag_ich_nicht | ChatFontSmall:SetFont(NORMAL_TEXT_FONT, 12 * scale) |
| 17:08.59 | sag_ich_nicht | was this broken somehow? |
| 17:09.02 | sag_ich_nicht | doesn't seem to work anymore |
| 17:09.02 | sag_ich_nicht | D: |
| 17:09.15 | sag_ich_nicht | only if i change the parent |
| 17:09.16 | sag_ich_nicht | which sucks |
| 17:12.41 | sag_ich_nicht | only thing even remotely relevant to that is |
| 17:12.41 | sag_ich_nicht | * Fixed unnecessary chopping of FontString contents when scaled. |
| 17:13.03 | sag_ich_nicht | Kirkburn|sleep wake up |
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| 17:14.16 | sag_ich_nicht | no wait |
| 17:14.18 | sag_ich_nicht | continue to sleep |
| 17:14.20 | sag_ich_nicht | i fixed it |
| 17:14.21 | sag_ich_nicht | :D |
| 17:20.34 | JoshBorke | ~lart sag_ich_nicht |
| 17:20.35 | purl | makes a balloon animal out of sag_ich_nicht |
| 17:20.36 | JoshBorke | you test yet? |
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| 17:21.00 | haste | I want a balloon animal :( |
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| 17:21.23 | sag_ich_nicht | mhm |
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| 17:21.32 | sag_ich_nicht | why can't i increase the soundchannel count? |
| 17:21.55 | haste | I can't really have myself can I? |
| 17:22.24 | sysrage | can't believe i'm not seeing a post about evocation |
| 17:22.30 | haste | but then again.. if I am a balloon animal, I will always have one near me |
| 17:22.32 | Shirik|Ecole | what's up with evocation? |
| 17:22.34 | sysrage | they were supposed to fix it but i get less mana now than i did before |
| 17:22.39 | Shirik|Ecole | rofl |
| 17:22.41 | sag_ich_nicht | Shirik|Ecole: new animation |
| 17:22.47 | Shirik|Ecole | bah who cares about that |
| 17:23.03 | Shirik|Ecole | they need to give us back our mass dispel animation! |
| 17:23.11 | sysrage | they got rid of that?? weak |
| 17:23.26 | Shirik|Ecole | they got rid of it a long time ago |
| 17:23.50 | sysrage | oh. guess i never saw the old one.. new one is still cool |
| 17:23.52 | sag_ich_nicht | there we go |
| 17:24.03 | sag_ich_nicht | 128 soundchannels allocated. |
| 17:24.04 | Shirik|Ecole | no |
| 17:24.07 | sag_ich_nicht | excellent. |
| 17:24.09 | Shirik|Ecole | it is definitely the opposite of cool |
| 17:27.41 | sag_ich_nicht | no |
| 17:27.44 | sag_ich_nicht | 128 soundchannels |
| 17:33.30 | dreamss | sup ag |
| 17:33.33 | dreamss | sag |
| 17:36.32 | Fisker- | sup ag |
| 17:36.34 | Fisker- | sag |
| 17:36.49 | dreamss | dont copy me... ill stab u |
| 17:37.10 | sag_ich_nicht | lol |
| 17:37.15 | Fisker- | no u |
| 17:37.19 | sag_ich_nicht | nvm dreamss |
| 17:37.22 | sag_ich_nicht | Cairenn|afk |
| 17:37.23 | sag_ich_nicht | dolby-wowi |
| 17:37.29 | sag_ich_nicht | wowi is down. |
| 17:37.33 | dreamss | all that action for nothing |
| 17:37.46 | Fisker- | you better watch out dreamss |
| 17:37.54 | Fisker- | wowinterface works fine for me |
| 17:38.05 | Fisker- | well |
| 17:38.08 | Fisker- | the lite page did |
| 17:38.16 | dreamss | i better watch out.. wow interface works for u? |
| 17:38.20 | dreamss | im scared |
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| 17:45.58 | foxlit | We're painting the roses red! |
| 17:49.01 | dreamss | Let's go paint the town red. |
| 17:49.23 | foxlit | Off with his head! |
| 17:51.21 | foxlit | http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v699/lurkii/numbers.jpg |
| 17:52.52 | dreamss | any idea if they fixed the seasonal quest for BE/drenai? |
| 17:53.27 | art3mis | it's the thigh of the tiger it's the thrill of the fight! |
| 17:53.38 | krka | xkcd <3 |
| 17:53.48 | art3mis | heh |
| 17:53.57 | art3mis | the hover over as usual is the funniest part |
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| 18:01.49 | sag_ich_nicht | wow |
| 18:01.54 | art3mis | old mass dispel graphic > all other graphics |
| 18:01.55 | sag_ich_nicht | 5.1 sound is AWESOME |
| 18:02.37 | ScytheBlade1 | Holy crap |
| 18:02.43 | ScytheBlade1 | The mage board has blue posts |
| 18:03.25 | art3mis | HOLY MACKEREL! |
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| 18:05.52 | Kaydeethree | r u srs? |
| 18:07.29 | Fisker- | newbs use Fx |
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| 18:07.45 | foxlit | I can't leave LFG if I'm not in it? |
| 18:07.45 | Sixen | Fx? |
| 18:07.50 | foxlit | And it reserves the channel? |
| 18:07.55 | Kaydeethree | firefox |
| 18:08.03 | zenzelezz | foxlit: that's my impression |
| 18:08.30 | dreamss | heh |
| 18:08.39 | dreamss | this sounds blizard ish |
| 18:08.43 | dreamss | Rein used the opportunity to work in a slight dig at Bungie's tool. "You mean an in-game editor that lets you rearrange the furniture as opposed to the professional tool we actually made the game with?" he asked. "No, we give you the real editor we use and all the power you can handle." |
| 18:10.59 | Cide | foxlit: join lfg, /leave, leave lfg |
| 18:11.01 | Cide | simple |
| 18:12.01 | foxlit | Spell out the full text of lfg |
| 18:12.35 | Cide | you lost me |
| 18:12.45 | Cide | the channel name is LookingForGroup |
| 18:12.54 | foxlit | I think I made a wrong assumption along the line as well |
| 18:14.29 | Fisker- | http://forums.wow-europe.com/thread.html?topicId=1015942003&sid=1 |
| 18:15.00 | sag_ich_nicht | lol |
| 18:15.03 | sag_ich_nicht | EditingUI is broken |
| 18:15.10 | sag_ich_nicht | it was supposed to work flawlessly with 2.2 |
| 18:15.11 | sag_ich_nicht | hahahaha |
| 18:16.47 | Elkano | hmm.. how do I get to that new chat settings in 2.2? |
| 18:18.24 | Esamynn | the ui chat UI is in the social window |
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| 18:18.50 | Elkano | ah, k |
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| 18:25.28 | Kaydeethree | heh, they just enabled voice chat on the first batch of realms |
| 18:26.06 | Sixen | ! |
| 18:26.13 | Sixen | My servers on there. |
| 18:31.07 | ScytheBlade1 | Wow I hate Drysic right now |
| 18:31.11 | ScytheBlade1 | *Drysc |
| 18:31.14 | ScytheBlade1 | Hate hate hate hate hate |
| 18:31.14 | ScytheBlade1 | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=1777877201&sid=1&pageNo=1#7 |
| 18:32.09 | ScytheBlade1 | On the flip side, there are as many blue posts in the mage boards as there is in general |
| 18:32.19 | Kaydeethree | which is miraculous |
| 18:32.23 | Sixen | lawl |
| 18:32.27 | ScytheBlade1 | Oddly, the ratio of blue tagged posts that are locked and unlocked is about the same as general too |
| 18:32.31 | Esamynn | ScytheBlade1: lol |
| 18:32.32 | ScytheBlade1 | Then again, that's not that odd |
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| 18:34.16 | Mr_Rabies2 | man |
| 18:34.19 | Mr_Rabies2 | 2.2 is a disaster :x |
| 18:34.22 | Mr_Rabies2 | http://img.waffleimages.com/041989011a8bfd47f7e12946b784c282b9f0dc94/wtgfs.jpg |
| 18:34.47 | Mr_Rabies2 | that's 2.2 in screenshot form |
| 18:34.48 | Mr_Rabies2 | right there |
| 18:35.23 | ScytheBlade1 | Nice. |
| 18:36.11 | Esamynn | Mr_Rabies2: lol |
| 18:36.56 | Mr_Rabies2 | (that's not my awful ui) |
| 18:37.43 | Mr_Rabies2 | i just thought of something |
| 18:37.50 | Mr_Rabies2 | won't goldbuyers use direct trades now? |
| 18:37.53 | Mr_Rabies2 | er |
| 18:37.57 | Mr_Rabies2 | sellers/buyers |
| 18:38.44 | Mr_Rabies2 | ooh i guess that wouldn't work because in order to transfer their gold from account to account they'd have to wait an hour |
| 18:38.45 | Esamynn | perhaps, but it does make things more difficult |
| 18:39.24 | ScytheBlade1 | Kaydeethree, random question. To make sure I'm not 'in the wrong' here. |
| 18:39.31 | Kaydeethree | shoot |
| 18:39.36 | ScytheBlade1 | Is Noixi a piss annoying troll that won't go away, or am I wrong? |
| 18:39.44 | Kaydeethree | ya |
| 18:39.50 | ScytheBlade1 | To which? ;P |
| 18:39.58 | Kaydeethree | he's a troll |
| 18:40.06 | ScytheBlade1 | 'k. Just wanted to make sure I wasn't alone in that. |
| 18:40.20 | ScytheBlade1 | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=1778036884&sid=1#8 |
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| 18:44.29 | ScytheBlade1 | lol. Did he report my post, Kaydeethree? |
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| 18:44.51 | Kaydeethree | #8 got reported |
| 18:44.55 | ScytheBlade1 | A hahahaha |
| 18:44.59 | ScytheBlade1 | The circle is complete |
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| 18:48.01 | ScytheBlade1 | HEY HEALERS: http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=1778026919&sid=1#9 |
| 18:48.42 | Kaydeethree | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=1778036840&sid=1&pageNo=2#30 |
| 18:48.45 | Kaydeethree | lmao |
| 18:48.53 | Kaydeethree | Blizzard was not prepared. |
| 18:49.16 | ScytheBlade1 | Yeah, that hit my realm when I was on |
| 18:53.50 | ScytheBlade1 | Neth is a classy person: http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=1778036739&sid=1&pageNo=4#60 |
| 18:54.07 | ScytheBlade1 | Sooo many blue posts on the forums, bluetracker is going to have a hayday |
| 18:54.49 | Kaydeethree | someone needs to poke the curse-tracker |
| 18:54.57 | Kaydeethree | it stopped getting posts when the forums went splat last night |
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| 18:57.19 | Industrial | ~seen tekkub |
| 18:57.23 | purl | tekkub <n=tekkub@WoWUIDev/WoWI/Featured/Dongle/Tekkub> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 8h 58m 35s ago, saying: 'http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uSmwJ6OgWko'. |
| 18:57.30 | zenzelezz | nice first day at work: http://blogs.msdn.com/oldnewthing/archive/2007/09/26/5131601.aspx |
| 18:59.08 | Intangir | ~seen intangir |
| 18:59.10 | purl | intangir is currently on #wowi-lounge. Has said a total of 360 messages. Is idling for 2s, last said: '~seen intangir'. |
| 18:59.10 | Intangir | hehe |
| 18:59.20 | Intangir | lol |
| 18:59.20 | ScytheBlade1 | zenzelezz, rofl |
| 18:59.47 | Intangir | ~commands |
| 18:59.48 | Intangir | ~help |
| 19:00.23 | Industrial | ~seen urmom |
| 19:00.24 | purl | Industrial: i haven't seen 'urmom' |
| 19:00.28 | Industrial | good. |
| 19:00.34 | Industrial | ~seen Industrial |
| 19:00.35 | purl | industrial is currently on #wowi-lounge (1d 6h 38m 45s) #wowace (1d 6h 38m 45s). Has said a total of 93 messages. Is idling for 1s, last said: '~seen Industrial'. |
| 19:00.54 | Industrial | 1d6h? wth |
| 19:02.17 | Intangir | what the heck is rot13? |
| 19:02.39 | Intangir | ~rot13 what the heck is this for? |
| 19:02.39 | purl | jung gur urpx vf guvf sbe? |
| 19:02.56 | Kaydeethree | ~rot13 this text is uber-encrypted |
| 19:02.56 | purl | guvf grkg vf hore-rapelcgrq |
| 19:03.06 | ScytheBlade1 | lol |
| 19:03.11 | Kaydeethree | ~rot13 guvf grkg vf hore-rapelcgrq |
| 19:03.11 | purl | this text is uber-encrypted |
| 19:03.31 | Esamynn | O_o |
| 19:03.37 | Valaron|Work | Hmmm |
| 19:04.02 | Valaron|Work | ~rot13 guvf |
| 19:04.02 | purl | this |
| 19:04.06 | Kaydeethree | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ROT13 |
| 19:04.06 | Valaron|Work | Haha |
| 19:04.06 | Lunessa | rot13 is "Rotate 13" it's a text encryption - move each character 13 places ahead in the alphabet. Used to make NSFW messages look like gibberish. |
| 19:04.20 | ScytheBlade1 | There are 26 letters in the alphabet. By shifting each letter 13 up, you create an "encrypted" text which can then be, gasp, shifted 13 up again to reveal the plaintext |
| 19:04.27 | ScytheBlade1 | Or 13 down, the point is irrelevant |
| 19:04.33 | Lunessa | very "old skool" |
| 19:05.01 | Cide | up is down? INCONCEIVABLE |
| 19:05.07 | Industrial | haha |
| 19:05.10 | Valaron|Work | It's the new up. |
| 19:05.13 | dreamss | prolly greek old |
| 19:05.39 | Lunessa | Without a doubt, the only way to go from here is out. |
| 19:05.46 | Intangir | ~wtf iirc |
| 19:05.48 | ScytheBlade1 | Cide, lol |
| 19:05.52 | Intangir | ~wtf wtf |
| 19:05.57 | Intangir | lol ;) |
| 19:06.00 | Intangir | ~uptime |
| 19:06.11 | Intangir | ~uptime intangir |
| 19:06.56 | ScytheBlade1 | purl is run off of a small, dual-*processor*, 300MHz box with ~300MB of RAM. |
| 19:07.20 | ScytheBlade1 | purl also exists as four *other* IRC nicks across freenode, in hundreds of channels, and can... at times... be a bit slow to respond :) |
| 19:07.58 | Intangir | it was responding in private tells for some reason |
| 19:08.19 | Intangir | ~wtf aybabtu |
| 19:08.24 | Intangir | hahaha |
| 19:08.26 | Intangir | OMG ! |
| 19:08.44 | Intangir | ~wtf gsoae |
| 19:09.46 | Intangir | ~wtf rl |
| 19:09.51 | Intangir | oooooohhhhh |
| 19:09.54 | Intangir | it all makes sense now |
| 19:31.44 | Intangir | http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendid=32699567 |
| 19:32.09 | zenzelezz | something's tainting my Target(ing?)Frame again |
| 19:32.17 | Intangir | what do you mean? |
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| 19:33.22 | zenzelezz | something is doing something it's not allowed to and therefore making my Target(ing?)Frame now show |
| 19:34.40 | zenzelezz | *not show |
| 19:37.16 | zenzelezz | finally the mallet drops |
| 19:37.33 | Intangir | oh |
| 19:37.37 | Intangir | ya that happened to me too |
| 19:37.40 | Intangir | i ran xperl and it always works |
| 19:37.45 | Intangir | its only the blizz one that doesnt show sometimes |
| 19:38.03 | Intangir | if you select a new target while your in combat it wont show your new target.. |
| 19:38.03 | zenzelezz | yes, something only taints the default UI one or somesuch |
| 19:38.14 | zenzelezz | works after combat again |
| 19:38.14 | Intangir | just get xperl |
| 19:38.27 | Intangir | xperl is fantastic |
| 19:39.07 | Intangir | i tried everything to get the default ui to stop bugging |
| 19:39.12 | Intangir | with those UIFaster and some other junk |
| 19:39.14 | Intangir | none of it fixed it |
| 19:47.41 | Kaydeethree | "It may not matter for much longer though as we're changing Evocation in 2.3 to instead restore 15% of your total mana every 2 seconds, instead of being a Spirit-based mana regen increase." |
| 19:47.43 | Kaydeethree | joy! |
| 19:49.01 | Lunessa | oooo... AWESOME |
| 19:50.37 | Esamynn | whoa |
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| 19:51.52 | [dRaCo] | Kaydeethree: got a link? |
| 19:52.01 | Kaydeethree | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=1778026213&pageNo=3&sid=1#51 |
| 19:52.09 | [dRaCo] | thanks |
| 19:53.56 | TS|Skrom | my word |
| 19:54.04 | TS|Skrom | mage forums are full of win today |
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| 19:56.48 | Polarina | How long will it take for new items in 2.2 to appear on Armoury? |
| 19:56.53 | AnduinLothar | wait really? that's full regen in 14s... that's better than drinking |
| 19:57.06 | Kaydeethree | evo is 8 seconds |
| 19:57.31 | Kaydeethree | I think there's a set bonus somewhere that can up it to 10 |
| 19:57.43 | AnduinLothar | so it'll only be a bit over half mana, ok, guess that's not quite as bad |
| 19:57.59 | AnduinLothar | l2 mp5 tho |
| 19:58.03 | AnduinLothar | silly mages |
| 19:58.21 | AnduinLothar | is the login server borked? |
| 19:58.42 | AnduinLothar | oh no.. it's jsut my server |
| 19:58.50 | AnduinLothar | stuck at Conencted |
| 19:59.48 | Polarina | When I press "List my Interfaces" from the main page. It asks me to download a file named "list.php". Why? |
| 20:00.11 | buu | Someone can't admin. |
| 20:00.42 | AnduinLothar | prolly being interprited as a file instead of a web page |
| 20:00.53 | AnduinLothar | it's a header issue |
| 20:01.44 | buu | Because web pages aren't files. |
| 20:01.54 | AnduinLothar | they are |
| 20:02.07 | AnduinLothar | they're jsut sposed to be interperited by the browser |
| 20:02.23 | Lunessa | Kaydeethree: 60% mana regen from Evocation is good. Plus most mages at 70 have lots of M/5 gear. |
| 20:02.27 | Tem | buu, do you do anything besides troll this channel? |
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| 20:02.52 | zenzelezz | yes, occasionally |
| 20:02.53 | Lunessa | I'm kind of stoked about that change. :) |
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| 20:03.19 | buu | Tem: Hell no. |
| 20:03.23 | AnduinLothar | is it a nurf for mages with tons of spirit? |
| 20:03.35 | Tem | AnduinLothar, no mages have tons of spirit |
| 20:03.36 | Tem | ever |
| 20:03.42 | AnduinLothar | jw |
| 20:03.50 | Tem | it is kind of crappy though |
| 20:04.04 | Tem | for an 8m cooldown where I have to self-root for 8 seconds, I should get more than 60% mana |
| 20:04.08 | Lunessa | 60% in 8 seconds. |
| 20:04.12 | AnduinLothar | spirit is more of a druid/priest stat |
| 20:04.36 | Lunessa | During which you will also tick 1 "not-casting" tick of M/5 |
| 20:05.12 | AnduinLothar | tem, stop complaining lol. it's liek a dreamless sleep for mana. i wish i had a skill like that for holy dps |
| 20:05.31 | Lunessa | That means I expect to see roughly a 10-15% increase in the usefulness of Evocation on my mage. |
| 20:05.40 | Tem | Lunessa, no, you don't |
| 20:05.52 | AnduinLothar | evo IS casting |
| 20:06.01 | Tem | evocation just increases your regen rate |
| 20:06.08 | Tem | and allows 100% regen during casting |
| 20:06.08 | Lunessa | Currently. |
| 20:06.43 | Tem | I expect to have to find a bunch of "Of Intellect" gear to put on |
| 20:07.03 | Esamynn | While channeling this spell, _your mana regeneration is active_ and increased by 1500%. Lasts 8 sec. |
| 20:07.06 | Lunessa | Since Evocation currently only gives me roughly 50% of my mana back, getting 60% seems like a good deal. |
| 20:07.58 | Kaydeethree | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=1778587218&pageNo=1&sid=1#16 |
| 20:08.03 | Kaydeethree | zomg I can now die happy |
| 20:08.13 | TS|Skrom | if you have 15/100 mana and remove a point of int, do you go to 15/85 or 0/85? |
| 20:08.38 | Kaydeethree | 15/85 |
| 20:08.46 | Tem | YAY |
| 20:08.55 | Tem | All my complaints? Obliterated |
| 20:09.01 | Kaydeethree | no joke |
| 20:09.10 | TS|Skrom | that's important to know :D since otherwise using "Of the intellect" wouldn't be a good idea for evocs hehe |
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| 20:09.38 | Tem | TS|Skrom, for the new version it will |
| 20:09.45 | Tem | 15% of total mana per tic |
| 20:09.55 | TS|Skrom | Ten I know, see my previous query |
| 20:09.56 | Tem | so having a higher total mana is to your benefit during evoc |
| 20:10.11 | TS|Skrom | if removing an int piece also removed 15 points of current mana then you'd not be gaining anything |
| 20:10.15 | AnduinLothar | isn't that true of any % based skill? |
| 20:10.18 | TS|Skrom | or very little |
| 20:10.32 | TS|Skrom | since it's not the case, no need to fret and get those greens bagged! |
| 20:11.07 | AnduinLothar | how would you swap in combat? invis drop you from combat? |
| 20:11.39 | Tem | AnduinLothar, weapons and wand |
| 20:11.45 | AnduinLothar | ah |
| 20:12.29 | AnduinLothar | +int enchant |
| 20:13.06 | Lunessa | Ok, I want to pick some brains here for improvements to my shaman. http://wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Kirin+Tor&n=Unkle Areas I feel I'm weak are health, and damage avoidance. But I'd like to hear what some folks whit more raiding/end-game experience have to say. |
| 20:13.08 | AnduinLothar | now does it calc 2% for each tick or is the amount calculated on initial cast? |
| 20:13.35 | Saeris | I'm trying to write a regex that keeps matching until it runs into a left bracket ([) which is not preceded by "|h". This seems possible, but I'm not having any luck. So far I've got "^.*[^|]?[^h]?%[". Anyone? |
| 20:13.45 | AnduinLothar | shammy's dont need avoidance |
| 20:13.47 | |Jelly| | That hand of jelly beans was rather unsatisfying. |
| 20:14.13 | AnduinLothar | or you mean for arenas? |
| 20:14.26 | |Jelly| | It's like I got all the gross flavors in one. :\ |
| 20:14.27 | [dRaCo] | Lunessa: unless you wanna pvp, damage avoidance is useless. try reaching 8k HP |
| 20:14.48 | TS|Skrom | Lunessa I'd start with a name change |
| 20:15.05 | [dRaCo] | Lunessa: way more AP! |
| 20:15.27 | Lunessa | I usually have about 1300 AP in combat. :) Trinkets you know. :) |
| 20:16.03 | [dRaCo] | yeah... 1,2k unbuffed is something I'd go for |
| 20:16.55 | [dRaCo] | new boots, new trinkets |
| 20:17.03 | Lunessa | Any suggestions on where to get it and still keep some +hit ? |
| 20:17.31 | [dRaCo] | Hourglass of the Unraveller |
| 20:17.49 | [dRaCo] | Bloodlust Brooch |
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| 20:17.57 | Lunessa | I don't PvP, I just get sick of getitng 1-shot by a melee crit ina heroic from a trash mob. |
| 20:18.44 | TS|Skrom | I see about 4 items that don't have +hit so there would be a good start ^^ |
| 20:18.58 | [dRaCo] | Got Karazhan on farm, Lunessa? |
| 20:19.18 | Lunessa | The other night in Kara, I got hit for a 16.5K melee crit - and no, it's not on farm. It's on - sometimes we do well and sometimes we suck. |
| 20:19.38 | [dRaCo] | well, 16.5k is just too much |
| 20:19.53 | [dRaCo] | chess event got great boots |
| 20:20.04 | Lunessa | Yeah, No one survives that kind of hit, but the 8.5K hits make me cry too. |
| 20:20.19 | [dRaCo] | some more HP wont hurt, yeah |
| 20:20.37 | Lunessa | I /know/ I'm not "well-geared, but I'm looking for reachable improvements. |
| 20:21.12 | [dRaCo] | hey, you should be able to clear Black Morass ;) |
| 20:21.21 | [dRaCo] | so the Hourglass of the Unraveller is reachable |
| 20:21.32 | [dRaCo] | best pre-raid trinket |
| 20:21.33 | TS|Skrom | you got any heroic access lunessa? |
| 20:21.56 | Lunessa | Yes, I have all my heroic keys. (On two toons) But the damned hourglass hasn't dropped for me. |
| 20:22.06 | AnduinLothar | farm it |
| 20:22.12 | Intangir | http://intangir.soulfire.cc/wow/prince1.jpg |
| 20:22.19 | AnduinLothar | that's what i did. did 4 runs in a day |
| 20:22.26 | TS|Skrom | how bout something like http://www.wowhead.com/?item=27463 ? not alot of power but with 14 hit rating here you might be able to upgrade something else easier :D |
| 20:22.37 | [dRaCo] | no. never. |
| 20:22.46 | [dRaCo] | 1.8 is way too fast |
| 20:23.03 | Lunessa | I need weapons in the 2.5-.28 range. |
| 20:23.07 | TS|Skrom | oh right, forgot about that :P |
| 20:23.15 | Lunessa | For Windfury. |
| 20:23.23 | Intangir | check out this pic though http://intangir.soulfire.cc/wow/prince1.jpg ;) |
| 20:23.28 | TS|Skrom | thought that didn't matter so much for offhands? |
| 20:23.33 | TS|Skrom | or is that rogues |
| 20:23.37 | [dRaCo] | that rogues |
| 20:23.44 | [dRaCo] | matters for us shamans. |
| 20:23.48 | Lunessa | It does matter, WF procs can only happen every 3 seconds. |
| 20:23.53 | TS|Skrom | right-o |
| 20:24.12 | [dRaCo] | Lunessa: Midnight Legguards, great stuff. |
| 20:24.16 | Saeris | they removed that limit in 2.2 |
| 20:24.22 | Saeris | there's no more 3 second cooldown |
| 20:24.31 | [dRaCo] | Saeris: that's just rumors. |
| 20:24.44 | Saeris | I experienced it today on my shaman. |
| 20:24.44 | Lunessa | Where from dRaCo? |
| 20:24.50 | Saeris | Another confirmed it, just hours ago. |
| 20:24.57 | Legorol | can someone recall which mod or mods cause you to get constant warning about your pet's aggro? |
| 20:25.01 | Lunessa | ... They BUFFED Windfury? |
| 20:25.05 | Kaydeethree | Legorol, x-perl |
| 20:25.07 | Legorol | i know it's a known issue with this patch, but i can't remember who are the culprits |
| 20:25.07 | [dRaCo] | screenshot with timestamps or it didnt happen, Saeris |
| 20:25.11 | Legorol | Kaydeethree: thanks |
| 20:25.23 | [dRaCo] | Lunessa: slave pens heroic, irrc |
| 20:25.25 | Intangir | xperl got updated |
| 20:25.26 | Lunessa | Legorol: Pitbull, Omen, KTM, X-Perl, etc. |
| 20:25.26 | [dRaCo] | ... iirc |
| 20:25.55 | Lunessa | So you would go for them over the Desolation greaves? |
| 20:26.01 | [dRaCo] | I did :) |
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| 20:26.55 | dreamss | WHAT?!?! |
| 20:27.01 | dreamss | they fixed wf? |
| 20:27.04 | dreamss | when this hapen? |
| 20:27.15 | dreamss | and its not on the notes? |
| 20:27.16 | [dRaCo] | Rumors until proven with Screenshot. |
| 20:27.17 | TS|Skrom | similar stats, how bout http://www.wowhead.com/?item=28392 ? |
| 20:27.23 | zenzelezz | Leotheras has a new Whirlwind effect o_O Huge black cyclone |
| 20:27.29 | Lunessa | I'll have to watch my logs. I didn't notice it this morning before work. |
| 20:27.38 | [dRaCo] | TS|Skrom: nope... dragonstrike is way better. |
| 20:27.43 | dreamss | i have dw and 2h set |
| 20:28.16 | Lunessa | hard to give up http://wowarmory.com/item-info.xml?i=28437 |
| 20:28.17 | AnduinLothar | Anyone know where the minimap images are stored int he wow mpqs? |
| 20:28.18 | TS|Skrom | DAMN FILTERS |
| 20:28.21 | TS|Skrom | Read my mind >< |
| 20:28.24 | deltron | :P |
| 20:28.46 | Lunessa | Going to be Dragonmaw in a few more runs. :) |
| 20:29.12 | [dRaCo] | Lunessa: keep dragonstrike ;) |
| 20:29.19 | Lunessa | Why? |
| 20:29.27 | [dRaCo] | well, and dragonstrike |
| 20:29.43 | Lunessa | More DPS, more stamina and they're both Main Hand |
| 20:29.52 | TS|Skrom | 32 ap, 15 csr http://www.wowhead.com/?item=27872 |
| 20:29.56 | TS|Skrom | how's that then? |
| 20:30.02 | [dRaCo] | yeah |
| 20:30.06 | [dRaCo] | that one's cool |
| 20:30.25 | Lunessa | That does NOT suck. I would very much use one of those. |
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| 20:31.00 | dreamss | is there a proc logger from ace? |
| 20:31.04 | dreamss | so i can test wf |
| 20:31.05 | [dRaCo] | dragonstrike/maw and that one are a great combo |
| 20:31.10 | Maldivia | Anyone here who plays with a German language client ? |
| 20:31.12 | TS|Skrom | filter was rare quality, req level 69+, speed > 2.5 |
| 20:31.18 | Tem | dear fanboys, die in a fire |
| 20:31.19 | TS|Skrom | very very few one hander's in that list |
| 20:31.22 | Tem | love, tem |
| 20:31.30 | [dRaCo] | tem: great. |
| 20:31.50 | Tem | Oh well |
| 20:31.52 | TS|Skrom | unless you wanna pvp hehe |
| 20:32.12 | [dRaCo] | dreamss: just get a combat log with timestamps and screenshot it |
| 20:32.41 | [dRaCo] | and consider lag :> |
| 20:32.42 | dreamss | give me a sec |
| 20:32.55 | dreamss | im resto atm but got 2h weapon |
| 20:32.59 | dreamss | mmh |
| 20:33.04 | dreamss | im gonna use a fast one |
| 20:33.38 | TS|Skrom | get a 1.2 grey dagger to test with imo |
| 20:33.44 | Lunessa | I've considered making Thunder and Deep Thunder for the rare times I want to use a 2-Hander. |
| 20:35.17 | TS|Skrom | http://www.wowhead.com/?item=2208 |
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| 20:35.43 | TS|Skrom | that should give you a good tester :) will be FAIRLY obvious if you get two procs in a row that the 3 sec rule doesn't apply |
| 20:35.55 | [dRaCo] | yeah |
| 20:36.21 | dreamss | need dw |
| 20:36.26 | dreamss | to test |
| 20:36.26 | Thunder_Child | somehow i feel violated by Lunessa's comment |
| 20:36.33 | [dRaCo] | doesnt matter, dreamss |
| 20:36.43 | dreamss | not procin enough |
| 20:36.45 | dreamss | with 1h |
| 20:36.46 | TS|Skrom | dreamss is your contention that it can proc once per 3/sec PER weapon? |
| 20:36.47 | dreamss | thats why |
| 20:37.00 | TS|Skrom | otherwise it wouldn't matter |
| 20:37.17 | dreamss | cant tell like this |
| 20:37.28 | Lunessa | Thunder_Child: DEEP THUNDER! |
| 20:37.48 | dreamss | need to have dw/flurry and stormsrtike to test |
| 20:37.50 | TS|Skrom | dreamss what zone are you in? |
| 20:37.53 | Thunder_Child | ~lart Lunessa |
| 20:37.53 | purl | shoves a crumpet down Lunessa's throat, happy now?! Huh? Want some JAM with that? |
| 20:38.03 | Lunessa | Yes please. Jam. |
| 20:38.06 | dreamss | smv |
| 20:38.46 | TS|Skrom | go to org, buy http://www.wowhead.com/?item=2208#sold-by:0+3+1 go out and kill stuff. if you get two procs in a row then yes, you are correct. |
| 20:41.12 | dreamss | heh |
| 20:41.30 | dreamss | u guys dont get it,u need to be DW to fully test it |
| 20:41.45 | TS|Skrom | no |
| 20:42.21 | TS|Skrom | 10[15:23] Saeris: there's no more 3 second cooldown01 |
| 20:42.43 | Lunessa | If you can get two procs on a 2-H less than 3 seconds apart that would confirm the cooldown is gone. |
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| 20:42.49 | dreamss | mostly affects dw tho |
| 20:43.01 | Lunessa | Mostly important to know for dw. |
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| 20:43.16 | TS|Skrom | easier to test with 1 weapon that's really fast |
| 20:43.30 | dreamss | the chance to get a back to back proc before the 3s nerf were very low allready |
| 20:44.22 | dreamss | im gonna respec enhas and test' |
| 20:44.37 | TS|Skrom | You are missing MY point |
| 20:44.56 | TS|Skrom | Regardless of the low chance it's definitive proof. Go do 2000 swings and we'll have a good idea. |
| 20:45.29 | TS|Skrom | but you need to do it with one weapon. two weapons might skew it. Maybe it's that each weapons chane to proc is independant of the other. |
| 20:45.49 | TS|Skrom | all your log would show is "windfury hits for x" and that could be misconstrued |
| 20:46.39 | TS|Skrom | wish I had a shaman with windfury I'd go do it myself |
| 20:46.54 | Lunessa | I'm at work, can't test it for you. |
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| 20:48.25 | dreamss | im doing all 3 tests |
| 20:48.48 | TS|Skrom | what weapons are you using? |
| 21:01.07 | foxlit | Hm, interesting |
| 21:01.19 | foxlit | That's the second time game client freezes and disconnects today |
| 21:01.33 | foxlit | And this time to character selection screen :/ |
| 21:02.34 | dreamss | yeah even as dw it wont go lower than 3s |
| 21:02.38 | dreamss | yeah i call BS |
| 21:04.12 | Tem | woot |
| 21:04.12 | Tem | You have earned the title 'Justicar'. |
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| 21:04.26 | bleeter | Tem: onya! :D |
| 21:04.33 | AnduinLothar | grats tem |
| 21:04.39 | AnduinLothar | i still need a crap ton of wsg rep |
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| 21:05.06 | dreamss | by the time i had warlord title i was exalted with all BGs |
| 21:07.42 | Kaydeethree | wow, is curse still having issues? |
| 21:09.35 | sysrage | apparently wowi is too |
| 21:09.50 | sysrage | i hate having to work. somebody should update my mods for me while i'm at work |
| 21:09.58 | TS|Skrom | amd I a bad person for telling this obvious young teenage rogue that the star of elune he just got out of that chest is for some junk tailoring recipe and I'd buy it for 3g? |
| 21:10.33 | cog|work | TS|Skrom: no worse than my wife telling people Murky is a rare drop from Cookie in the deadmines, imo |
| 21:10.39 | TS|Skrom | in my defense i said it all in party chat and no one else piped up so it's not like I was being sneaky ^^ |
| 21:10.46 | Kaydeethree | wtf? op |
| 21:10.47 | Kaydeethree | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=1778027086&sid=1&pageNo=6#109 |
| 21:11.01 | TS|Skrom | cog|work oh man I'm gonna hve to use that one :P |
| 21:11.32 | TS|Skrom | :O |
| 21:12.01 | Tem | Kaydeethree, fuck |
| 21:12.15 | Tem | nerf plz |
| 21:12.20 | TS|Skrom | that's neat! gives your high level hunters a reason to use it again |
| 21:13.42 | Sixen | KD3, are you a Mod on WoWWiki? |
| 21:13.50 | Kaydeethree | nah, just a regular |
| 21:13.56 | Sixen | Hmph. Okay. |
| 21:14.12 | Kaydeethree | any of the ops in there have admin on the wiki,t hough |
| 21:14.27 | Sixen | Mmm, i'm looking for someones e-mailaddress,:/ |
| 21:14.38 | Sixen | You wouldn't happen to have Baarab's or Karash's, would you? |
| 21:14.53 | Sixen | They're German MVP's. I doubt it, but it's worth a shot. |
| 21:15.19 | TS|Skrom | :O RAP Scaling on serpent sting! wheee |
| 21:15.27 | Kaydeethree | nope. the only blizzard email I have is someone from pr |
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| 21:16.10 | Sixen | :/ |
| 21:17.03 | bleeter | Kaydeethree: you you've earned a lot of ... something or other... recently http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=1778026973&sid=1 |
| 21:17.10 | Intangir | lol |
| 21:17.26 | Kaydeethree | ya, that was a rather fun thread |
| 21:17.50 | dreamss | that means arcane shot will dispell bop? |
| 21:17.53 | dreamss | LOL |
| 21:18.26 | Kaydeethree | good news for warriors: " We also plan to have healing reduction effects affect all drain spells and abilities. As the example that most people bring up, Mortal Strike will affect Drain Life." |
| 21:18.38 | Kaydeethree | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=1778037077&sid=1&pageNo=4#66 |
| 21:18.39 | cog|work | schweet |
| 21:19.26 | bleeter | lol testing the crash report tool -> http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=1778045414&pageNo=1&sid=1#0 |
| 21:19.28 | |Jelly| | ~seen cide |
| 21:19.29 | purl | cide is currently on #wowi-lounge (5h 22m 52s). Has said a total of 5 messages. Is idling for 2h 14m 29s, last said: 'up is down? INCONCEIVABLE'. |
| 21:19.40 | |Jelly| | lol...voice |
| 21:19.44 | |Jelly| | ~facepalm |
| 21:19.44 | purl | ACTION facepalms at the situation |
| 21:19.54 | Cide | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:20.26 | Sixen | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=1778026973&sid=1&pageNo=2 |
| 21:20.32 | Sixen | Hortus pretty much gg'ed him there. |
| 21:20.44 | Sixen | Deleted all replies and left his. |
| 21:20.52 | cog|work | hortus has been hilarious the last few days |
| 21:21.05 | Sixen | Hell yeah, =) |
| 21:21.14 | Fisker- | fucking ownt Kaydeethree |
| 21:21.15 | Kaydeethree | ya, I'm kinda watching my step when yelling at people right now |
| 21:21.25 | Fisker- | wtf |
| 21:21.32 | Fisker- | what did they do the topic? |
| 21:21.40 | Kaydeethree | hortus deleted all of the posts |
| 21:21.40 | Fisker- | It's 2 pages and only hortus' post is there |
| 21:21.47 | Fisker- | whyyyyyyyyyy |
| 21:22.10 | Sixen | Mmmm, Hortus is the man. |
| 21:22.13 | bleeter | seems Hortus has been pretty much handed the biggest blizz forum stick ever... and boy did he need it, was getting totally out of control. |
| 21:22.57 | Fisker- | so what was the post? |
| 21:23.08 | Kaydeethree | QQing at me for not having a life |
| 21:23.15 | Sixen | " You could try reading the post titled "PTR FAQ [Read Before Posting]" where it will most likely answer your question... and as an added bonus it will tell you why your post was deleted." |
| 21:23.18 | Sixen | That's so awesome.. |
| 21:23.21 | Sixen | *clap for Hortus* |
| 21:24.05 | dreamss | So, I made this post, we're square for another six months, right? :P |
| 21:24.18 | dreamss | lol@eyonix |
| 21:24.31 | Fisker- | aww Kaydeethree |
| 21:24.44 | Kaydeethree | either forum tracker working? cardplace and curse are both not doing anything |
| 21:24.53 | Fisker- | that's like the thread on the EU forums earlier |
| 21:25.03 | Sixen | Oh.. I thought that was just me, they're both down? |
| 21:25.07 | Fisker- | http://forums.wow-europe.com/thread.html?topicId=1016061656&sid=1 |
| 21:25.18 | Fisker- | blue tracker only does some boards btw |
| 21:25.22 | Kaydeethree | Fisker-, meh, I'm honestly surprised I've been getting QQed at today, I'm barely posting in the PTR forum right now and was getting more hate today than I got earlier in the week |
| 21:25.34 | Sixen | KD3, don't sweat it. |
| 21:25.40 | Kaydeethree | oh, I'm not sweating it |
| 21:25.40 | Sixen | Just ignore them and let Hortus take care of you. |
| 21:25.46 | Kaydeethree | I did a pretty good job of laughing at the op |
| 21:25.48 | Sixen | Hortus obviously has your back, :P |
| 21:25.51 | Fisker- | and given they don't run it each second it'll probably just show hortus' post |
| 21:28.16 | Fisker- | but i still like my thread the most :P |
| 21:28.36 | Fisker- | Another one of those "lolol you got no life because you're posting in my thread" |
| 21:28.43 | Fisker- | yet he kept posting himself :D |
| 21:29.24 | zenzelezz | lol |
| 21:32.02 | Polarina | Have the bandwidth usage dropped enough to at least enable screenshots again? |
| 21:32.51 | cog|work | "ll sound in wow is now software accelerated" <----- Isn't that an oxymoron? |
| 21:32.59 | cog|work | s/"ll/"all/ |
| 21:42.17 | Elkano | it will play at twice the intended speed |
| 21:42.19 | zenzelezz | this is a sad raid |
| 21:42.47 | zenzelezz | we one-shot Hydross, then lose four people on first spout on Lurker, eventually wipe at 12%, then two-shot Leo, one-show Karathress |
| 21:42.52 | zenzelezz | Lurker is like the easiest fight |
| 21:43.05 | dreamss | lame on getting me excited... /me respecs back to resto |
| 21:43.17 | dreamss | lol |
| 21:46.41 | bleeter | cog|work: wasn't h/w accel removed from the DirectX in Vista? |
| 21:47.00 | bleeter | cog|work: hmm, that might've been D3D and not DSOUND... nm me |
| 21:47.38 | cog|work | bleeter: if it's using software then it's by definition not accelerated... |
| 21:49.09 | bleeter | I'm not saying I disagree with you, more inquisitive at whatever the DirectX marketing folks have been pushing as 'valid' |
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| 21:51.35 | bleeter | Polarina: rawr @ your AppDB foo :) |
| 21:51.39 | dreamss | heh |
| 21:51.42 | dreamss | wth |
| 21:51.46 | dreamss | personal rating? |
| 21:51.51 | Polarina | bleeter: :D |
| 21:51.54 | dreamss | remove team ratings then |
| 21:53.06 | bleeter | Polarina: kinda nice having someone else active there, it was starting to eat away at my decreasing availabilty |
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| 21:53.25 | Polarina | bleeter: You're welcome. |
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| 22:01.58 | Polarina | bleeter: I submitted a new test result. |
| 22:03.03 | bleeter | Polarina: aye, was just looking and lol'ing |
| 22:03.06 | bleeter | What works |
| 22:03.07 | bleeter | Everything works except the things that don't work. |
| 22:03.11 | Polarina | :D |
| 22:03.12 | bleeter | . |
| 22:03.12 | bleeter | What does not |
| 22:03.14 | bleeter | Everything is broken except for things that work. |
| 22:03.19 | bleeter | What was not tested |
| 22:03.20 | bleeter | Crashing the game. |
| 22:03.33 | Polarina | I didn't lie anywhere, did I? |
| 22:03.41 | dreamss | interface. The personal rating will be used for purchasing items that require a specific rating, and also be used to determine eligibility for the end of season rewards |
| 22:03.41 | bleeter | Crashing the game is easy to test, just move the Data folder out of the tree ;) |
| 22:03.45 | dreamss | bleh |
| 22:03.48 | Polarina | lol |
| 22:03.58 | dreamss | anyone else nnotices something wrong with that? |
| 22:05.53 | Polarina | bleeter: Are you able to start the Repair.exe tool? |
| 22:06.05 | dreamss | if u only play 30-50% per week on your team, the team will have a much higher rating than the personal rating |
| 22:06.07 | dreamss | bleh |
| 22:06.59 | bleeter | Polarina: havne |
| 22:07.04 | bleeter | haven't tried |
| 22:07.10 | Polarina | Ok. |
| 22:08.16 | Polarina | bleeter: There's a better way to crash the game than that. :) |
| 22:09.54 | Polarina | bleeter: /script s = "a,"; for i=1,18 do s = s..s end print(loadstring("local a;"..s.."a=nil", "")) |
| 22:12.25 | cog|work | Cairenn|afk: or dolby-wowi: is http://fs2.wowinterface.com/the_list.html always a valid URL or is it only active when you're on ultra low bandwidth? |
| 22:14.26 | Polarina | "Repair bots"? |
| 22:14.32 | bleeter | well, bot |
| 22:14.37 | Polarina | o.O |
| 22:14.40 | bleeter | with higher mats in it than the current one |
| 22:14.46 | art3mis | purl: 8 * 5.75 |
| 22:14.47 | purl | 46 |
| 22:14.52 | bleeter | engineer thread in the US profession forum |
| 22:15.08 | Polarina | So you don't have to repair your gear at a vendor? |
| 22:15.08 | bleeter | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=1778046823&sid=1 |
| 22:15.15 | bleeter | indeed |
| 22:15.21 | dreamss | and mount |
| 22:15.36 | Kaydeethree | Polarina, it's for raids. if you're deep in an instance, drop a bot and repair using the bot instead of porting out |
| 22:15.37 | dreamss | the arena rating changes make no sense |
| 22:15.39 | bleeter | way I read it, mountS... one non-epic, one epic |
| 22:15.57 | dreamss | yeah |
| 22:16.09 | dreamss | is arcane shot magic or phys spell |
| 22:16.17 | bleeter | iirc, magic |
| 22:16.20 | dreamss | aka will it dispell BOP? |
| 22:16.22 | dreamss | heh |
| 22:16.27 | dreamss | poor palloes |
| 22:16.50 | art3mis | bleeter: didnt engineers already have repair bots? |
| 22:17.06 | Kaydeethree | they're getting the repair bot v2, apparently |
| 22:17.21 | bleeter | art3mis: they had one, but the items it could vendor to you were pretty crap |
| 22:17.27 | buu | Kaydeethree: Where they get the money? |
| 22:17.31 | bleeter | well, specially when your skill is 380 or somesuch |
| 22:18.33 | art3mis | umm |
| 22:18.42 | art3mis | perhaps you're confused as to what "repair" means ;P |
| 22:18.52 | art3mis | why would it need to vendor ANYTHING to you? |
| 22:18.55 | bleeter | repair bot also vendors some stuff |
| 22:18.58 | art3mis | its a repair bot for gods sake |
| 22:19.01 | Kaydeethree | engi supplies |
| 22:19.06 | art3mis | repair bot |
| 22:19.11 | art3mis | not portable smithy |
| 22:19.30 | bleeter | what craps me off, is the crafter don't get the gold that people have spent on it to get the repairs, ie, pay towards contruction cost ;) |
| 22:20.18 | art3mis | and i'd like the ability as an enchanter to disenchant(without destroying) other peopls stuff |
| 22:20.23 | art3mis | that would be awesome |
| 22:20.27 | Kaydeethree | art3mis, http://www.wowhead.com/?npc=14337 it sells 10 items |
| 22:20.47 | art3mis | oh yeah i kow it does |
| 22:20.52 | art3mis | it just seems retarded that it does |
| 22:21.21 | bleeter | art3mis: indeed, DEing from the 'will not trade' would be nice, as would enchant scripts that I could pass to my other characters on my account (ie, my main passes an enchant to a toon of mine that I'm levelling) |
| 22:23.05 | art3mis | yeah |
| 22:23.08 | art3mis | that would be nice |
| 22:24.06 | bleeter | even to the extent that could sell an enchant on the AH |
| 22:24.11 | bleeter | can but dream |
| 22:24.22 | bleeter | on the subject of dreaming, time to go fall asleep @ a uni lecture.. laters |
| 22:24.40 | cog|work | heh... Name of folder: 8 bytes. Names of two files: 24 bytes. Contents of two files: 179 bytes. Total: 211 bytes. Size of zip: 504 bytes :P |
| 22:24.44 | cog|work | http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info7591-SmallDot.html |
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| 22:29.05 | foxlit | http://www.escapistmagazine.com/articles/view/editorials/zeropunctuation/2280-Zero-Punctuation-Peggle |
| 22:29.24 | foxlit | It's Zero Punctuation time again! |
| 22:31.54 | cog|work | dolby-wowi: Cairenn|afk or clad|away can you approve http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info7591-SmallDot.html please :) |
| 22:33.08 | Polarina | Don't ask. |
| 22:33.08 | art3mis | whats small do |
| 22:33.09 | art3mis | t |
| 22:33.24 | Polarina | cog|work: They already know about it. |
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| 22:33.33 | art3mis | wowi is laggored for me |
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| 22:35.05 | dolby-wowi | sorry that mod is too large |
| 22:35.08 | dolby-wowi | you need to make it smaller |
| 22:35.11 | cog|work | :P |
| 22:35.15 | dolby-wowi | *smirk* |
| 22:35.28 | Polarina | 500 bytes maximum. |
| 22:35.37 | Polarina | Try to compress with maximum compression. |
| 22:35.39 | cog|work | i blame PKware |
| 22:35.45 | cog|work | it *is* max compression :P |
| 22:35.53 | Polarina | Then no approval. |
| 22:35.58 | Polarina | Unless you can make the addon smaller. |
| 22:36.02 | dolby-wowi | max upload is only 2 bytes |
| 22:36.12 | Polarina | Not 500? |
| 22:36.31 | foxlit | I dislike the new escapist design :/ |
| 22:36.38 | dolby-wowi | no, what do you think we have like a 100mb HD or something? |
| 22:36.43 | foxlit | They were significantly more fun when articles looked like fancy graphics |
| 22:36.54 | foxlit | At least I didn't have to read all of he text to get the point :/ |
| 22:37.53 | sysrage | how many unique hits has wowi gotten in the last 2 days? |
| 22:38.03 | sysrage | and whats a normal average? |
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| 22:43.33 | Polarina | I hate it when I get a download window asking me to download some PHP files... |
| 22:45.26 | Cidan | man |
| 22:45.33 | Cidan | so I was catching up on Bleach (anime) |
| 22:45.34 | Cidan | bleh |
| 22:45.38 | cog|work | haha 9 downloads already and the site is hardly responding >< |
| 22:45.53 | Cidan | It starts out amazing, but then at about episode 40-50, it turns into Dragon Ball Z |
| 22:46.24 | Polarina | cog|work: 'Couse I'm redownloading that awesome addon over and over. |
| 22:46.27 | Lunessa | Most long-running anime series turn into that. |
| 22:46.30 | cog|work | haha |
| 22:46.41 | Kaydeethree | <3 KOR/Maison Ikkoku |
| 22:46.58 | Cidan | It sucks, it upsets me |
| 22:47.05 | Cidan | "NO I WILL WIN" |
| 22:47.07 | Kaydeethree | 'course, KOR stops in the 50s so I can't really use that as an example |
| 22:47.07 | Cidan | "NO ME" |
| 22:47.09 | Cidan | "NO ME" |
| 22:47.14 | Lunessa | I think most of anime is better when it doesn't outlive the original story. |
| 22:47.15 | Cidan | "HAHAHHA NO U... WAIT, DAMN IT" |
| 22:47.42 | Sixen | Bleach! |
| 22:47.46 | Lunessa | 10-15 episodes is the max I've seen where it stays good/fresh/entertaining. |
| 22:47.50 | Sixen | I saw the first two episodes, thought that was great. |
| 22:47.52 | Cidan | In this sense, I'm glad they didn't continue the Hellsing anime. |
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| 22:50.29 | Lunessa | I tend to like stuff that has short runs. Vampire Princess Miyu, AD Police, Bubble Gum Crisis, Ghost in the Shell - short stories, lovingly crafted. |
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| 22:50.52 | Cidan | I think I will have to agree. |
| 22:51.17 | Lunessa | Ranma 1/2 - interesting for about 30 secons. |
| 22:51.20 | Lunessa | seconds. |
| 22:51.28 | Kaydeethree | read the manga, it's a lot better |
| 22:51.44 | Lunessa | Orange Road - good for about 5-6 episodes, then the joke got old. |
| 22:51.47 | Mr_Rabies2 | Cromartie High School imo |
| 22:51.59 | zenzelezz | long-running series usually only suck if they didn't actually intend them to run that long in the first place |
| 22:52.00 | Cidan | psh |
| 22:52.04 | Kaydeethree | kor's only 2 seaons long... |
| 22:52.05 | zenzelezz | (I'm looking at you, Lost) |
| 22:52.05 | Cidan | Azumanga!!#!!@$%$R##4 |
| 22:52.21 | Mr_Rabies2 | does azumanga have freddie mercury |
| 22:52.26 | Mr_Rabies2 | I THINK NOT |
| 22:52.31 | Cidan | Really Azumanga is all about Osaka |
| 22:52.36 | Cidan | <3 her. |
| 22:52.36 | Mr_Rabies2 | and therefore it is not as awesome as cromartie |
| 22:52.55 | Kaydeethree | cidan; funny you mention osaka, she's my new desktop background now: http://img217.imageshack.us/img217/4792/findstickiesv3pq2.jpg |
| 22:53.10 | Cidan | That so wins. |
| 22:53.11 | Cidan | :D |
| 22:53.33 | Mr_Rabies2 | mine is currently uh |
| 22:53.39 | Cidan | she seriously reminds me of my girlfriend, she will totally just space out like that. |
| 22:53.54 | Sixen | Rofl KD3, so awesome. |
| 22:53.59 | Sixen | What Kernel do you use? |
| 22:54.14 | Kaydeethree | fedora 7 + xfce + beryl |
| 22:54.35 | Sixen | I was going to use fedora, but don't oyu have to buy it? |
| 22:54.35 | Polarina | Kaydeethree: Kernel. |
| 22:54.49 | Kaydeethree | whatever the lastest f7 kernel is... uh |
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| 22:54.56 | Kaydeethree | 2.6.22.5 |
| 22:54.56 | JoshBorke | fedora is free |
| 22:54.58 | Polarina | Kaydeethree: Kernel not distribution. :) |
| 22:55.01 | Cidan | Inoue from Bleach and Osaka are the same voice actor... oh shi--? |
| 22:55.05 | Mr_Rabies2 | is there a linux distro named kernel sanders |
| 22:55.07 | Mr_Rabies2 | Cidan: |
| 22:55.09 | Sixen | Er, I meant Distro, not Kernel. |
| 22:55.15 | Mr_Rabies2 | Chiyo's dad is Anderson from hellsing |
| 22:55.16 | Sixen | But KD3 knew what I meant :p |
| 22:55.21 | Cidan | no kidding? |
| 22:55.24 | Cidan | That's neat, :D |
| 22:55.27 | Mr_Rabies2 | nope, someone did a video |
| 22:55.33 | Sixen | I've got Ubuntu at the moment, not bad. |
| 22:55.37 | Mr_Rabies2 | of chiyo's dad flying in and talking to osaka about jesus |
| 22:55.42 | Mr_Rabies2 | and she was all @_____@ |
| 22:56.02 | Mr_Rabies2 | here's my current wallpaper, but i've shopped that lame text out: http://img300.imageshack.us/img300/2130/1189349513234lu6.jpg |
| 22:56.18 | Lunessa | Kaydeethree: Is that transparent FireFox a linux only feature, or is it available for other flovors? |
| 22:56.28 | Kaydeethree | it's part of the window manager I'm using |
| 22:56.35 | Lunessa | Ah, ok. |
| 22:56.37 | Mr_Rabies2 | there's plenty of apps out there for windows that let you run things transparent |
| 22:56.38 | Kaydeethree | firefox didn't even know it was semi-transparent for that picture |
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| 22:56.40 | Mr_Rabies2 | some programs don't like it though |
| 22:56.58 | Lunessa | I'm asking for Mac OSX though. I should poke around. :) |
| 22:57.17 | Mr_Rabies2 | Cidan |
| 22:57.18 | Mr_Rabies2 | http://youtube.com/watch?v=AJOLK1bhEfs |
| 22:57.44 | clad|away | cog|work: whats the range indicator |
| 22:57.47 | zenzelezz | anyone used Omen since 2.2? |
| 22:58.03 | Lunessa | Last night and this morning. |
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| 22:58.15 | Lunessa | Worked fine for me in Black Morass last night. |
| 22:58.22 | cog|work | my background: http://home.comcast.net/~m_orlando/WoWScrnShot_072507_080701.jpg What can I say? I'm a Gnome! |
| 22:58.39 | cog|work | clad|away: the dot on buttons without keybindings |
| 22:58.41 | zenzelezz | I updated it before today's raid, but it seems to behave slightly odd... got one popup error message from it, and the window, though hidden, shows tooltips and blocks what's underneath |
| 22:58.51 | clad|away | cog|work: I guess I've never seen it, have a comparison screenshot? |
| 22:59.02 | cog|work | not yet... |
| 22:59.07 | cog|work | might as well make one |
| 22:59.10 | clad|away | k k |
| 22:59.13 | clad|away | just curious |
| 23:00.22 | clad|sleep | this Clique pet frame issue is bothering me |
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| 23:00.27 | clad|sleep | since I can't get to WoW to do any testing =/ |
| 23:04.05 | cog|work | clad|sleep: http://home.comcast.net/~m_orlando/comparison.png 2.1 is on top, 2.2 is on bottom |
| 23:04.26 | Lunessa | it really amazes me how many people have problems with AddOns on patch day that I just never see. Even with the same AddOns. |
| 23:04.29 | clad|sleep | ah thanks. |
| 23:05.03 | Wobwork | Lunessa: it's the fact that you know how to tick 'load out of date addons' =P |
| 23:05.12 | Lunessa | LOL |
| 23:05.24 | zenzelezz | cog|work: so what does SmallDot do, change it back to 2.1 style? |
| 23:05.57 | cog|work | zenzelezz: read its description :P http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info7591-SmallDot.html |
| 23:06.19 | Polarina | And the comment. :P |
| 23:06.29 | zenzelezz | last time I tried WoWI it was on low-bw and only offered downloads, thus I didn't check :) But I will now |
| 23:07.07 | Cairenn|afk | it's always possible to get to the main site from the low bw page, zenzelezz, there's a link to click ;) |
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| 23:07.26 | zenzelezz | I got blinded by all the addons on the low-bw site then :-p |
| 23:07.35 | Cairenn|afk | heh |
| 23:08.12 | Lunessa | Sounds like a new Thomas Dolby song, "She Blinded Me With AddOns!" |
| 23:08.18 | Cairenn|afk | rofl |
| 23:08.27 | Mr_Rabies2 | i accidentally did that to the ptr character copy page a few months ago |
| 23:08.42 | Mr_Rabies2 | i came back and had been refreshing it for over 24 hours |
| 23:08.49 | Mr_Rabies2 | once a minute |
| 23:08.50 | Mr_Rabies2 | oops |
| 23:08.57 | Cairenn|afk | eep |
| 23:09.08 | cog|work | ~framexml UnitFrame.lua |
| 23:09.09 | purl | http://wdn.wowinterface.com/code/live/FrameXML/UnitFrame.lua |
| 23:09.10 | Cairenn|afk | please don't do that to us right now ;) |
| 23:09.22 | Polarina | Ups... |
| 23:09.33 | Mr_Rabies2 | i won't :P |
| 23:09.49 | Mr_Rabies2 | i usually only do it on accident |
| 23:09.53 | Mr_Rabies2 | like during a wootoff |
| 23:09.55 | Lunessa | Cairenn|afk: If you like Thomas Dolby, seek you out the movie ROCKULA in which he has a major role. |
| 23:09.57 | Mr_Rabies2 | i'll leave the refresh running |
| 23:10.03 | Mr_Rabies2 | and forget to turn it off when i go to bed |
| 23:10.18 | Mr_Rabies2 | and come back and it's been crashed since roughly before i started refreshing it |
| 23:10.26 | Cairenn|afk | heh |
| 23:11.13 | Cidan | heh?! |
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| 23:11.45 | Cairenn|afk | ? |
| 23:12.44 | Polarina | Cairenn|afk: Why does WowInterface randomly ask me to download some PHP scripts? |
| 23:12.53 | Mr_Rabies2 | Polarina, firefox? |
| 23:12.56 | Cairenn|afk | talk to dolby-wowi, I wouldn't know |
| 23:13.04 | Polarina | Mr_Rabies2: Yes. |
| 23:13.09 | Kaydeethree | the webserver's sending the wrong headers |
| 23:13.12 | cog|work | Kaelten: Guillotine or whoever...there's no way to set a default screenshot if you only have one screenshot uploaded |
| 23:13.15 | Mr_Rabies2 | sometimes files are presented in the mimetype of "i want to download this" instead of "i want to view this" |
| 23:13.24 | Mr_Rabies2 | curse had it big with screenshots for a while |
| 23:13.36 | Polarina | dolby-wowi: Why does WowInterface randomly ask me to download some PHP scripts? |
| 23:13.37 | Mr_Rabies2 | and firefox reads that mimetype to identify what to do with the file |
| 23:13.44 | Guillotine | cog: wierd. hold on |
| 23:13.45 | Cairenn|afk | probably because of the server load we are under at the moment |
| 23:14.45 | Polarina | Good night. |
| 23:14.48 | cog|work | Guillotine: of course, it should've paid attention to my answer when it asked "do you want to use this as your default screenshot?" ;) |
| 23:16.36 | Guillotine | cog: yup, bug noted. should be fixed soon |
| 23:17.00 | Lunessa | Haha cog|work that guy just couldn't wait could he? |
| 23:17.11 | cog|work | nope |
| 23:17.20 | Kaydeethree | oh Guillotine, another devtracker bug for ya. when the forums crashed about 20 hours ago it stopped picking up new threads |
| 23:17.43 | Guillotine | kay: noted :) |
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| 23:25.29 | Corrodias | boy, the wow forums are abuzz with activity |
| 23:25.46 | sysrage | is there a list somewhere of all the new formulas they just put on vendors and which vendor has um? |
| 23:25.52 | Corrodias | in my few minutes browsing, i told off a few people for being impatient, disrespectful, and ignorant about things they decided to mouth off about |
| 23:26.30 | Wobwork | sounds like a normal day in the forums =P |
| 23:26.41 | Corrodias | yep |
| 23:26.50 | dreamss | great use of your time |
| 23:26.51 | dreamss | :P |
| 23:27.02 | Corrodias | "it's such an obvious fix, why don't you blizzard people just go DO it already and stop lying to us about EAX" and crap |
| 23:27.08 | Corrodias | it was a good use of my time, i'd like to think |
| 23:27.32 | Corrodias | better than writing an ODBC query in Borland C++ Builder |
| 23:27.39 | dreamss | part of the sound changes were done to move to dx10/vista prolly |
| 23:27.56 | Wobwork | dreamss: ew |
| 23:28.01 | Wobwork | no |
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| 23:28.10 | Wobwork | I refuse to install vista to play WoW |
| 23:28.21 | Wobwork | and so will the majority of their subscription base =P |
| 23:28.23 | Kaydeethree | they're also not going to move to dx10 any time soon |
| 23:28.28 | dreamss | let me refrase, to make wow more vista compatible |
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| 23:28.44 | dreamss | most of their sub base are sheep |
| 23:28.45 | dreamss | heh |
| 23:28.45 | Corrodias | i'm rather hoping they re-enable the hardware processing, not because i use it, but because i realize people want it. however, i think NOW is the time for sorting out issues in the current system, and bitching about hardware support can come LATER |
| 23:29.00 | Cidan | hardware what |
| 23:29.02 | Cidan | sound? |
| 23:29.05 | Corrodias | yes |
| 23:29.06 | dreamss | yeah |
| 23:29.10 | Cidan | No one is going to use hardware sound ever again |
| 23:29.22 | dreamss | like i said |
| 23:29.26 | dreamss | vista compavility |
| 23:29.27 | Corrodias | why was it disabled, actually? |
| 23:29.34 | Cidan | DX10 doesn't support it |
| 23:29.35 | Corrodias | you don't have to remove support for it to be compatible with vista |
| 23:29.36 | Cidan | and it's stupid |
| 23:29.38 | Cidan | pointless. |
| 23:29.46 | Cidan | It serves of no use |
| 23:29.51 | Corrodias | when Creative created EAX, they didn't think it was pointless |
| 23:29.55 | Corrodias | or put it on the cards, anyway |
| 23:29.57 | Cidan | EAX is a standard |
| 23:29.59 | Corrodias | i don't know who developed it |
| 23:30.00 | Cidan | not a hardware system |
| 23:30.06 | dreamss | crative cards are crap anyways |
| 23:30.08 | dreamss | heh |
| 23:30.08 | Cidan | EAX is done through software |
| 23:30.14 | Cidan | just done on the card it self |
| 23:30.23 | Cidan | something that can be done off the CPU now |
| 23:30.29 | Corrodias | i'm not seeing the compelling reason to remove support, though |
| 23:30.34 | zenzelezz | AFAIK Creative made EAX, then they bough Aureal3D or whatever it was called and merged it with EAX |
| 23:30.35 | Cidan | I am |
| 23:30.40 | zenzelezz | bought |
| 23:30.42 | Corrodias | i want you to show it to me |
| 23:31.08 | Wobwork | What, his Pokemons? |
| 23:31.09 | Cidan | I just did -- it's pointless, programming aside (which I would be happy to explain to you the details of the DX10 sound system if you have a few hours) |
| 23:31.25 | dreamss | it dosent matter, whats bad about software based sound? |
| 23:31.35 | Cidan | The CPU can do it just as well as a sound card, and give the nice audio effects to EVERYONE |
| 23:31.38 | Cidan | Their entire base |
| 23:31.39 | Corrodias | i don't think you understand what i mean. it was already -in-. what reason is there to -remove- it? |
| 23:31.49 | Cidan | because DX10 is a -ground up- rewrite |
| 23:31.51 | Cidan | of DX |
| 23:32.18 | Cidan | They reworked the API to the point where it just wouldn't have been practical to include |
| 23:32.31 | Corrodias | now that's a decent line of reasoning |
| 23:32.47 | dreamss | only thing bad is that you loose mic feedback filtering |
| 23:32.49 | dreamss | and some shit |
| 23:32.54 | dreamss | with vista |
| 23:33.04 | Cidan | Think about it, why would you limit a great sound system in a game as a developer only to maybe what, less than half your base? |
| 23:33.09 | Corrodias | once all the little buggies with the current system are sorted out, perhaps people won't care so much about it |
| 23:33.18 | Cidan | Why not just have a software system do it, and bam, you have another selling point. |
| 23:33.27 | Cidan | Which everyone can take advantage of |
| 23:33.37 | dreamss | its all on that writeup called "real cost of vista" |
| 23:33.42 | Corrodias | they fixed the aspect ratio in windowed mode issue, looks like |
| 23:33.47 | dreamss | has a great writeup on the dx10/sound changes |
| 23:34.09 | Cidan | Vista isn't so bad -- it gets a lot of shit for being "OH MY GOD THEY ARE STEALING OUR RIGHTS DRM DRM DRM" |
| 23:34.23 | dreamss | truth is, drm works |
| 23:34.24 | dreamss | heh |
| 23:34.30 | Cidan | To that I say, suck it up. All forms of DRM are cracked in what, 10 days tops? |
| 23:34.40 | Cidan | What was the new DRM in Bioshock? limit of 2 installs? |
| 23:34.53 | Cidan | hah, give me a break. |
| 23:35.03 | dreamss | cracked ver was out 2 days later |
| 23:35.06 | dreamss | heh |
| 23:35.10 | Cidan | 10, ;P |
| 23:35.15 | Corrodias | i should hope so. that's just silly. |
| 23:36.02 | sysrage | so i'm tryin omen. it doesn't look like it'll tell me what ktm version people have. that's a problem if i can't bitch ppl out in my guild for not having one of the 2 |
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| 23:36.18 | Cidan | I just wonder if Creative will go into the software sound system business now |
| 23:36.24 | dolby-wowi | love the new DRM-Free music downloads on amazon... amazonmp3.com. You get a real mp3 256kbps vbr |
| 23:36.28 | Cidan | Since their cards are pretty much worthless. |
| 23:36.50 | Cidan | Anything but FMOD, I suppose. |
| 23:36.50 | dreamss | look at those usb headsets |
| 23:36.57 | Cidan | Oh yeah, *drool* |
| 23:36.59 | dreamss | build in sound chipset |
| 23:37.00 | dreamss | heh |
| 23:37.07 | Cidan | *sarcasm* |
| 23:37.09 | sylvanaar | they dont work |
| 23:37.09 | zenzelezz | Cidan: they already have huge speaker/music player income, they may just refocus |
| 23:37.29 | Cidan | zenzelezz, agreed. I can't imagine they were making too much money with their sound cards anyways |
| 23:37.31 | dreamss | sylvanaar, they dont work? last i checked they did |
| 23:37.47 | Cidan | It got stupid, 300 dollars for what? something that's 15 dollars built into my mobo AND has optical out? |
| 23:38.01 | sylvanaar | i have a high-end usb headset, its got compatibililty issues |
| 23:38.18 | dreamss | like? |
| 23:38.19 | Shirik | Hey Cidan |
| 23:38.23 | Shirik | check this out: http://youtube.com/watch?v=GJ5lsOHR1V4&mode=related&search= |
| 23:38.25 | dreamss | my friends worked like a champ |
| 23:38.34 | sylvanaar | ok |
| 23:38.52 | Corrodias | i like my x-fi for the headphones thing that mixes the channels to create a better 3d effect |
| 23:39.02 | dreamss | heh |
| 23:39.07 | sylvanaar | they have compatiblity issues with many things including vent |
| 23:39.14 | Cidan | I |
| 23:39.16 | Cidan | hate |
| 23:39.16 | zenzelezz | I just bought 5.1 headphones, was easier |
| 23:39.21 | Cidan | HATE |
| 23:39.22 | Cidan | you |
| 23:39.24 | Shirik | =D |
| 23:39.34 | Shirik | cmon at least watch a bit longer |
| 23:39.34 | sylvanaar | i hate sound in the headphone |
| 23:39.36 | dreamss | how much? |
| 23:39.52 | sylvanaar | i like to use speakers + mic |
| 23:39.56 | Cidan | Nancy: "That's giving me a headache..." |
| 23:40.17 | dreamss | but yeah build in sound cards work nicely |
| 23:40.28 | Shirik | It's a good song to build a stepfile to |
| 23:40.32 | dreamss | only people that do sound editing need high end |
| 23:40.35 | Legorol | may i paste 10 lines to illustrate typical user stupidity that i can only groan at? |
| 23:40.37 | dreamss | but gamers? lol |
| 23:40.40 | Cidan | hmm |
| 23:40.41 | Cidan | good idea |
| 23:40.41 | Shirik | but most stepfile's I've seen on it are absolutely impossible |
| 23:41.55 | Shirik | AHAHAHAHA |
| 23:41.56 | Shirik | http://youtube.com/watch?v=O-YPNoQWpGg&mode=related&search= |
| 23:44.28 | Cidan | whew |
| 23:44.47 | Cidan | wanna see something *really* neat? |
| 23:45.01 | Cidan | http://youtube.com/watch?v=neAiLZcy8Qk |
| 23:45.05 | Cidan | watch all the way through |
| 23:45.08 | Cidan | in particular, the end. |
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| 23:46.43 | Legorol | omg Cidan, he is blindfolded, isn't he |
| 23:46.48 | Cidan | Yep |
| 23:46.53 | Cidan | he takes it off a bit in |
| 23:46.56 | Cidan | but it's amazing |
| 23:46.59 | Cidan | it really is |
| 23:47.25 | Cidan | at the end his hand moves so quickly, it's literally a blur |
| 23:47.56 | dreamss | i wonder why cs/silence effects dont have DR |
| 23:48.15 | dreamss | they as bad for healers as cc is to melee |
| 23:48.31 | Cidan | DR? |
| 23:48.41 | JoshBorke | they are on a much longer cooldown? |
| 23:48.44 | dreamss | diminishing return |
| 23:49.34 | dreamss | cooldown dosent matter when u can get locked out longer than it takes for them to kill you/someone |
| 23:49.57 | Cidan | I think DR was only meant for skills that stun or hold people in place |
| 23:50.08 | Cidan | and even then, it's only for skills that can be cast over and over again |
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| 23:51.59 | dreamss | cc can be broken by trinket/dmg cs/silence effects can only be broken by spell stone |
| 23:52.48 | dreamss | inmune from pallies and mages can break silence but not CS |
| 23:54.11 | Cidan | CS? |
| 23:54.31 | [dRaCo] | counterspell |
| 23:54.31 | JoshBorke | counterspell |
| 23:55.07 | Cidan | well yeah, CS puts a cooldown on you, it doesn't give you an affect of some sort |
| 23:55.32 | dreamss | that is true |
| 23:56.10 | Cidan | And now to try Jericho |
| 23:57.12 | dreamss | seems like blizz keeps those mechanics safe, like items that reduce the effect dosent stack with talents |
