| 00:00.49 | Shirik | in fact you know what |
| 00:00.54 | Shirik | why would it have to convert from double to int? |
| 00:01.11 | Shirik | I see no problem with performing an and on the mantissa |
| 00:01.54 | Polarina | Shirik: That's how bitlib does it. However I have not got a single idea why they didn't do it that way. |
| 00:03.17 | foxlit | Hm, yeah. lshift is slow(er) |
| 00:04.20 | foxlit | xor / and / or do not approximate well to lua math operators, and thus lose more |
| 00:04.52 | art3mis | buu: yeah php.config.inc ;P |
| 00:05.04 | art3mis | thats all you really need to say thas bad about php ;P |
| 00:05.43 | buu | art3mis: Yeah. It's hard to get more insulting than that. |
| 00:05.48 | art3mis | shirik: wait until you get a quantum computer! itll know the answers before the questions are asked!@ |
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| 00:06.07 | foxlit | "php.config.inc"? |
| 00:06.13 | art3mis | <-- <3's quantum mechanics |
| 00:06.53 | art3mis | foxlit: the default "settings" file that controls most of php based applications that allows you to plain text input usernames passwds servers etc etc etc |
| 00:07.10 | Shirik | art3mis: That would be php.ini |
| 00:07.25 | art3mis | not for most distributed php applications ;P |
| 00:07.34 | Shirik | is everywhere I've seen it |
| 00:07.41 | Shirik | I have never seen a 'php.config.inc' |
| 00:08.15 | foxlit | Think google agrees with us as well |
| 00:11.45 | buu | foxlit: You're missunderstanding it. |
| 00:11.56 | buu | foxlit: He's referring to a common design decision of php so called applications. |
| 00:12.05 | buu | You're referring to the config file for the mod_php. |
| 00:12.24 | art3mis | its config.ini ;P |
| 00:12.25 | foxlit | buu: It's the only interpretation that makes sense. |
| 00:12.27 | buu | But I guess this is what you should expect. |
| 00:13.02 | foxlit | "Someone wrote code that puts sensitive stuff in clear text files accessible by anyone" is not PHP's problem |
| 00:13.27 | buu | Technically speaking, no. |
| 00:14.11 | buu | And if you actually had a competent programmer using php, you get something half way decent. Unfortunately every developer who isn't a complete idiot can immediately see the myriad problems with php and drops it. |
| 00:16.12 | foxlit | "Unfortunately every developer who isn't a complete idiot can immediately see the myriad problems with php and drops it." I don't buy that. |
| 00:17.02 | art3mis | is that becuase you dont consider yourself a moron and cant see any problems with php and still use it? |
| 00:17.10 | art3mis | ;) |
| 00:17.22 | art3mis | ~poke foxlit |
| 00:17.23 | purl | ACTION cuts down a small tree, sneaks up behind foxlit, pokes foxlit repeatedly, hilarity ensues. |
| 00:17.47 | foxlit | Well, to some degree. |
| 00:18.03 | foxlit | But mostly, it's an overly loaded statement with no real argument behind it. |
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| 00:19.52 | Corrodias | it is indeed a fallacious statement |
| 00:20.08 | Corrodias | "the only people who like php are complete idiots" |
| 00:20.58 | Corrodias | separate that from the actual proposition, which is "php has myriad problems" |
| 00:22.22 | Corrodias | ...does anyone else find those "languagelab.com" advertisements really creepy because of the models they use? |
| 00:23.33 | foxlit | Haven't seen any :/ |
| 00:23.45 | foxlit | Copied my hosts file over to notebook, ads are rare |
| 00:24.26 | FlAWD | www.safer-networking.org ... new spybot includes over 6k URL's in the hosts file :D |
| 00:25.02 | foxlit | Now how much of those would you really need to block? |
| 00:25.04 | foxlit | 60? |
| 00:25.24 | FlAWD | it's mostly precautionary |
| 00:25.39 | FlAWD | the URLs have been gathered over something like 5 years |
| 00:26.14 | foxlit | I'm contemplating letting the HTTP server I use to serve blank ads from localhost remove hosts entries that haven't been used for ages |
| 00:26.37 | foxlit | Historical archives of domain names of adhosts don't really hold any value |
| 00:26.53 | FlAWD | very true |
| 00:27.13 | FlAWD | but there are a few .. a small amount .. that have used the same dns names for years |
| 00:27.26 | AnduinLothar | So, if I resurected GuildTradeSkills what would you guys want to see as features? |
| 00:28.06 | foxlit | window -> what I want made -> who makes it |
| 00:28.31 | foxlit | That's assuming I was forced to use it, asking is generally easier :) |
| 00:28.32 | AnduinLothar | how would you want to browse? Assume you knwo what you want made and what skill makes it? |
| 00:28.53 | Corrodias | crafting is annoying, as is getting anything out of it |
| 00:29.05 | foxlit | Yeah, more or less. |
| 00:29.39 | foxlit | You can add a generic "show me everything per profession", but that's mostly "ooh, someone got that level 35 health pot recipe" |
| 00:31.13 | buu | AnduinLothar: Peer to peer synching, obviously. |
| 00:31.30 | AnduinLothar | as in store offline memebr data? |
| 00:32.20 | AnduinLothar | iw as thinkign abotu having it jsut be ondemand request and broadcats of online members |
| 00:32.49 | AnduinLothar | peer to peer is substantially more complicated |
| 00:33.24 | foxlit | That depends on two things |
| 00:33.31 | AnduinLothar | deserving it's own lib prolly |
| 00:33.57 | AnduinLothar | wonder how gem does it |
| 00:34.01 | foxlit | Can recipe links be resolved without storing the entire link? |
| 00:34.12 | Kaydeethree | bleeter, wow, I'm impressed. hortus didn't delete your post |
| 00:34.23 | AnduinLothar | ? you can make a link with a single # |
| 00:35.09 | AnduinLothar | however if you want to store everything then you have to store all the amts links and the crafting link and the product link |
| 00:35.48 | AnduinLothar | it's not a lot of data, i'm not that worried about the storage part. just the transmission would eb very slow if it were p2p |
| 00:36.01 | foxlit | No, it wouldn't |
| 00:36.09 | foxlit | You have GUILD addon messages to play with |
| 00:36.09 | AnduinLothar | you can transfer your own data for 2 profs in 1 or 2 bursts |
| 00:36.51 | AnduinLothar | but transfering an entire guild's could entaill all possible recipies/mats/products |
| 00:37.10 | bleeter | Kaydeethree: heh, well I've pretty much told any Winer to sod off to the Wine support channels, I kinda hoped by stating that obvious fact he might leave the post alone. I guess it's also possible he's AFK grabbing a cuppa or something ;) |
| 00:37.17 | foxlit | Rely on client cache for everything but who can make what |
| 00:37.24 | Kaydeethree | he replied in it |
| 00:37.31 | foxlit | Don't send other's data. |
| 00:37.48 | bleeter | Kaydeethree: btw, current git's crash on exit fix seems tighter than the patch that was originally provided. Seems to close a heck of a lot quicker :) |
| 00:37.57 | Kaydeethree | neat |
| 00:38.03 | foxlit | Send a hash of your own state when you log in. If anyone is interested (hash does not match what they have), have them request an update |
| 00:38.05 | Kaydeethree | I'm compiling now, still |
| 00:38.21 | foxlit | Whenever you do a search, ask the guild as well. |
| 00:38.44 | foxlit | (including a list of people who you know can make the stuff) |
| 00:38.53 | AnduinLothar | ? |
| 00:38.56 | AnduinLothar | you lost me |
| 00:39.13 | foxlit | Upon logging in, client pushes what it can make to everyone online who cares |
| 00:39.21 | AnduinLothar | right |
| 00:39.31 | foxlit | If someone wants to find out who can make something: |
| 00:39.36 | foxlit | 1. Search local database. |
| 00:40.02 | foxlit | 2. Send a guild request, including names of those you know can craft what you're looking for. |
| 00:40.19 | foxlit | 3. If a client knows a name not on your list, reply with details. |
| 00:40.21 | AnduinLothar | why woudl you need a guild request? |
| 00:41.00 | foxlit | Because it's cheaper than making sure that everyone has the whole picture at any one time |
| 00:41.29 | AnduinLothar | ok, so jsut push your product links and have details be ondemand? |
| 00:41.45 | foxlit | Push crafting links, imo |
| 00:41.54 | AnduinLothar | nah crafting links suck |
| 00:41.56 | foxlit | If those are just an ID, it's by far the easiest method |
| 00:42.00 | AnduinLothar | cause you have to parse them |
| 00:42.07 | Corrodias | your mom is on demand |
| 00:42.14 | sag_ich_nicht | AnduinLothar |
| 00:42.17 | sag_ich_nicht | libstub. |
| 00:42.22 | AnduinLothar | product links are easier because you can get detailed item info |
| 00:42.25 | sag_ich_nicht | did someone try to sell it to you yet? |
| 00:42.40 | foxlit | Is it 5 KB yet? |
| 00:43.39 | foxlit | AnduinLothar: but they'll save you all the work later on? |
| 00:43.56 | AnduinLothar | ? |
| 00:44.03 | foxlit | To be honest, I have no idea how they work. |
| 00:44.11 | AnduinLothar | no, but it'll make it easily browseable and searchable |
| 00:44.20 | foxlit | Can you get a product name out of it? |
| 00:44.33 | foxlit | Can you get a list of reagents out of it? |
| 00:44.35 | AnduinLothar | from tradeskill links you cant get any info without parsing |
| 00:44.39 | foxlit | Can you store it in a single number? |
| 00:44.47 | foxlit | "parsing" what? |
| 00:45.11 | AnduinLothar | from an item link you can get all sorts of info liek where it is equipped, ilvl, req lvl, quality, etc |
| 00:45.20 | sag_ich_nicht | ckknight |
| 00:45.27 | foxlit | In other words, stuff that nobody cares about :) |
| 00:45.27 | sag_ich_nicht | you haven't tried to sell libstub to AnduinLothar yet? |
| 00:45.29 | sag_ich_nicht | ~fail ckknight |
| 00:45.30 | purl | ckknight: Fail. |
| 00:45.43 | foxlit | Besides, if you can extract product name. |
| 00:45.46 | foxlit | Can't you get an item link? |
| 00:45.47 | ckknight | LibStub is not mine to sell |
| 00:45.51 | AnduinLothar | no |
| 00:45.56 | sag_ich_nicht | you tried to sell it to cidan :P |
| 00:46.22 | AnduinLothar | onyl way to get id from name is to store a giant table of all known links |
| 00:46.39 | AnduinLothar | but you can easily get name from an id |
| 00:46.57 | foxlit | So what's a crafting link, exactly? |
| 00:47.05 | foxlit | But you can't get the list of matts out of an id |
| 00:47.05 | AnduinLothar | just a tooltip |
| 00:47.09 | sag_ich_nicht | lots of pipes. |
| 00:47.16 | foxlit | pipes that contain what? |
| 00:47.23 | foxlit | Some sort of spell ID? |
| 00:47.26 | AnduinLothar | right, but you said request details so why do you need the mats? |
| 00:47.27 | sag_ich_nicht | nah |
| 00:47.27 | foxlit | Item ID? |
| 00:47.32 | foxlit | List of item IDs for everything? |
| 00:47.37 | AnduinLothar | no |
| 00:47.39 | sag_ich_nicht | you can't see what the item link "looks" like |
| 00:47.41 | foxlit | No, you misunderstand. |
| 00:47.42 | sag_ich_nicht | unless you like |
| 00:47.43 | sag_ich_nicht | erm |
| 00:47.46 | AnduinLothar | nothing. it's a completely sepperate tooltip |
| 00:47.46 | sag_ich_nicht | well |
| 00:47.53 | sag_ich_nicht | do some TCP/IP related stuff |
| 00:47.56 | sag_ich_nicht | that is really bad |
| 00:47.57 | sag_ich_nicht | >:) |
| 00:48.14 | foxlit | Hey, that link is clickable in chat, which means it's a hyperlink |
| 00:48.19 | foxlit | Which means there's some code attached |
| 00:48.25 | sag_ich_nicht | ~facepalm |
| 00:48.26 | purl | ACTION facepalms at the situation |
| 00:48.40 | AnduinLothar | it's jsut a tooltip in a database |
| 00:48.57 | foxlit | The request mechanism is intended to get you information about the crafting abilities of people who you don't know about yet |
| 00:48.58 | AnduinLothar | with a tradeskill link id |
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| 00:49.43 | sag_ich_nicht | JoshBorke: your stuff appears to work |
| 00:49.44 | sag_ich_nicht | i think. |
| 00:49.45 | sag_ich_nicht | maybe. |
| 00:49.58 | JoshBorke | that's interesting |
| 00:50.01 | sag_ich_nicht | i will test it in 3 days. |
| 00:50.04 | sag_ich_nicht | maybe. |
| 00:50.10 | JoshBorke | whatever |
| 00:50.12 | sag_ich_nicht | friend i wanted to test it with today |
| 00:50.14 | JoshBorke | i'm having fun working on legoblock |
| 00:50.15 | sag_ich_nicht | got a 72 hour ban |
| 00:50.17 | foxlit | So you could still get most of the interesting stuff out of the tooltip? |
| 00:50.21 | sag_ich_nicht | for calling someone a fucking shitgimp |
| 00:50.23 | sag_ich_nicht | (deservedly) |
| 00:50.24 | sag_ich_nicht | :X |
| 00:50.32 | JoshBorke | lol |
| 00:50.51 | AnduinLothar | sag_ich_nicht: it's not worht implimenting in libstub to my existing lbis. i may look at it for future libs |
| 00:52.05 | sag_ich_nicht | :) |
| 00:52.50 | sag_ich_nicht | you should totally write a new framework from scratch, AnduinLothar. |
| 00:52.53 | sag_ich_nicht | </sarcasm> |
| 00:53.05 | JoshBorke | yaou were being sarcastic? |
| 00:53.12 | JoshBorke | i couldn't tell, there was no <sarcasm> tag |
| 00:53.13 | AnduinLothar | i need income first |
| 00:53.24 | sag_ich_nicht | <sarcasm> |
| 00:53.26 | sag_ich_nicht | there is, JoshBorke |
| 00:53.34 | sag_ich_nicht | it was just opened a looooooooooong time ago. |
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| 00:53.42 | JoshBorke | oh, ok |
| 00:53.42 | sag_ich_nicht | AnduinLothar well get one |
| 00:53.50 | JoshBorke | get one income? |
| 00:53.55 | JoshBorke | wouldn't he need steady income? |
| 00:53.59 | sag_ich_nicht | no |
| 00:54.03 | JoshBorke | AnduinLothar: marry a rich old chick |
| 00:54.07 | sag_ich_nicht | no |
| 00:54.09 | sag_ich_nicht | don't |
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| 01:00.34 | Valaron | http://www.escapistmagazine.com/articles/view/editorials/zeropunctuation/1394-Zero-Punctuation-BioShock |
| 01:01.35 | sag_ich_nicht | night guys |
| 01:02.04 | foxlit | Yes, ZP is awesome |
| 01:02.20 | JoshBorke | nn sag |
| 01:02.37 | foxlit | Though Bioshock is probably not the best episode |
| 01:02.47 | bleeter | gnight sag_ich_nicht |
| 01:06.50 | foxlit | Psychonauts or Fable |
| 01:07.02 | foxlit | http://www.escapistmagazine.com/articles/view/editorials/zeropunctuation/1368-Zero-Punctuation-Psychonauts |
| 01:07.19 | Corrodias | fucking psychonauts! i KNEW I forgot something! |
| 01:07.19 | foxlit | http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=jYQLR7dE5k4 |
| 01:09.02 | AnduinLothar | wtf... netherrock died but only turned into 2 crumblers... |
| 01:09.06 | AnduinLothar | need 3 for the quest |
| 01:09.22 | foxlit | You're so doomed now! :P |
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| 01:14.38 | AnduinLothar | :) http://www.karlkfi.com/WoW/PallyBlock2.jpg |
| 01:15.05 | AnduinLothar | wtb block value |
| 01:17.56 | Cairenn | evening Esamynn |
| 01:18.02 | Esamynn | hey Cairenn |
| 01:51.58 | mikma | where are the classcolors defined? |
| 01:52.15 | mikma | oh, Fonts.xml |
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| 02:04.59 | AnduinLothar | so, i just redid the math and I'm way aboved 100% avoidance |
| 02:05.34 | AnduinLothar | so i swapped out some of my block rating for dodge and defence |
| 02:05.54 | AnduinLothar | and got to 81% damage reduction |
| 02:06.02 | AnduinLothar | self buffed |
| 02:06.03 | JoshBorke | NICE |
| 02:06.09 | JoshBorke | oops, soryr for caps |
| 02:06.21 | JoshBorke | they let you pew pew yet? |
| 02:06.31 | AnduinLothar | I tanked KZ last night. |
| 02:06.41 | JoshBorke | how much health though? |
| 02:06.51 | AnduinLothar | 11k self buffed |
| 02:06.55 | JoshBorke | ouch |
| 02:06.57 | AnduinLothar | yeah |
| 02:07.23 | AnduinLothar | so i need to swap out more block for stam and dodge |
| 02:07.40 | AnduinLothar | figured out my [Libram of Repentance] does exactly zero for me |
| 02:07.53 | AnduinLothar | cause i'm already over the cap with jsut holy shield |
| 02:08.10 | AnduinLothar | so the 5.33% extra does nothing |
| 02:08.34 | AnduinLothar | so i'll prolly be swappign that out for Libram of Zeal |
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| 02:09.13 | AnduinLothar | for the same reasont he proc on [Dabiri's Enigma] does exactly nothing unless i'm out fo mana for Holy Shield |
| 02:10.09 | AnduinLothar | and while the proc on [Figurine of the Colossus] is nice with healing on blocks the passive shield block rating is useless |
| 02:10.50 | AnduinLothar | and for the same resoning Reboubt is fairly useless |
| 02:11.03 | AnduinLothar | but Shield Specialization is nice |
| 02:12.40 | AnduinLothar | and i realized that while defense isn't needed for crit immune any more past 490. it still provides pretty nice avoidance |
| 02:13.19 | AnduinLothar | 30 def = 2.55 avoidance |
| 02:13.23 | AnduinLothar | 2.55%* |
| 02:13.54 | AnduinLothar | and 1.2% of that is full avoidance dodge and miss |
| 02:14.05 | AnduinLothar | .51% is frontal parry |
| 02:14.44 | AnduinLothar | plus all of those push down the block % |
| 02:15.10 | AnduinLothar | cause block rly sucks. you only really want it to be uncrushable |
| 02:16.16 | AnduinLothar | tho it also provides agro with things like Holy Shield and Sanctuary or healing with [Figurine of the Colossus] proc |
| 02:16.40 | AnduinLothar | better to go for spell dmg for agro tho |
| 02:19.51 | Wobin_ | http://www.gucomics.com/comics/2007/gu_20070919.jpg |
| 02:20.52 | AnduinLothar | heh |
| 02:20.57 | AnduinLothar | super shoulders! |
| 02:24.03 | JoshBorke | anduin is just talking to himself, don't worry |
| 02:24.26 | AnduinLothar | it'd been a while. needed a good session |
| 02:26.09 | bleeter | long as he don't answer back with someone else's nick, it's fine :) |
| 02:30.19 | Kaydeethree | wow... the PTR forum has finally hit page 2. wonder how hard the banhammer's gonna come down on all the spammers |
| 02:32.00 | bleeter | heh, hortus went home? |
| 02:32.22 | Kaydeethree | nah, they're busy trying to fix whatever the hell's wrong with the 2.2.2 PTR. posted an hour ago that they were having trouble |
| 02:33.34 | bleeter | ah |
| 02:33.45 | bleeter | heh, the 'do not spam the forums' thread is out to 12 pages |
| 02:34.10 | Kaydeethree | the one he had earlier thread-capped earlier today |
| 02:34.39 | bleeter | I was thoroughly expecting the forum to get locked RO earlier (dunno if that's possible, tho) |
| 02:34.58 | bleeter | which is why I posted the Wine thingie, on the offchance they did lock it |
| 02:36.02 | AnduinLothar | 09/21/2007 07:35:04 PM PDT my clock says 7:34.... |
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| 02:36.20 | bleeter | heya Iriel |
| 02:36.35 | AnduinLothar | how did he post and get 2 pages of response before it's even the time he posted.. |
| 02:36.44 | Iriel | evening |
| 02:36.58 | AnduinLothar | er 13 pages* |
| 02:37.46 | bleeter | magic |
| 02:37.54 | AnduinLothar | so.... 2.2 is comign on tuesday and they're putting up 2.2.2 tonight on ptr? |
| 02:38.00 | Kaydeethree | that's the plan |
| 02:38.04 | AnduinLothar | weird |
| 02:38.21 | AnduinLothar | that mean they plan 2.2.2 for liek 1 or 2 weeks from tues? |
| 02:38.22 | bleeter | new event content to test... some beerfest thingie |
| 02:38.29 | bleeter | as well as halloween |
| 02:38.39 | Kaydeethree | they're getting ready for the october holidays. the ptr'll probably be up for a week tops |
| 02:39.38 | JoshBorke | hola iriel |
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| 02:41.30 | bleeter | what intrigues me, is how we're gunna be updating from 2.1.3 to 2.2.2 without the 2.2 content patch |
| 02:41.56 | AnduinLothar | ? |
| 02:42.05 | AnduinLothar | there is no 2.2 content patch |
| 02:42.32 | bleeter | but they're going to have to 'ship' it all, somehow, so we get 2.2.2, yes? |
| 02:42.42 | AnduinLothar | 2.2.2 is the content. 2.2 is the ui and voice/video update |
| 02:42.54 | AnduinLothar | 2.2 on tuesday first |
| 02:43.02 | AnduinLothar | then 2.2.2 a few eeks after |
| 02:43.03 | bleeter | ok, d/content/ in my intrigue post there |
| 02:43.35 | AnduinLothar | pretty sure 2.2 is comign then 2.2.2 |
| 02:43.44 | bleeter | we're on 2.1.3 now, they're pushing out 2.2.2, so we'll be getting a 2.1.3->2.2.2 PTR patch |
| 02:43.52 | AnduinLothar | dont think so |
| 02:44.04 | AnduinLothar | 2.2.2 is the holiday content |
| 02:44.21 | bleeter | so you think it's just the content bolted on to 2.1.3? |
| 02:44.28 | AnduinLothar | no |
| 02:44.30 | Kaydeethree | then how are we going to be getting on the PTR tonight since they haven't pushed 2.2 live yet? |
| 02:44.39 | AnduinLothar | ... |
| 02:44.46 | AnduinLothar | oh, you mean ont he ptr |
| 02:45.02 | AnduinLothar | i'm sure it will include 2.2 |
| 02:45.06 | bleeter | yar, sorry, I'm an inprecise bastard sometimes |
| 02:46.40 | bleeter | anyways, wouldn't be suprised if this leap is the cause of the 2.2.2PTR delay |
| 02:47.26 | Tem|work | ~laziness |
| 02:47.26 | purl | LAZINESS: The quality that makes you go to great effort to reduce overall energy expenditure. It makes you write labor-saving programs that other people will find useful, and document what you wrote so you don't have to answer so many questions about it. Hence, the first great virtue of a programmer. |
| 02:47.55 | Tem|work | ~impatience |
| 02:47.56 | purl | IMPATIENCE: The anger you feel when the computer is being lazy. This makes you write programs that don't just react to your needs, but actually anticipate them. Or at least that pretend to. Hence, the second great virtue of a programmer. |
| 02:48.23 | Tem|work | ~hubris |
| 02:48.24 | purl | HUBRIS: Excessive pride, the sort of thing Zeus zaps you for. Also the quality that makes you write (and maintain) programs that other people won't want to say bad things about. Hence, the third great virtue of a programmer. |
| 02:48.44 | Tem|work | ~fear of complexity |
| 02:48.44 | purl | ACTION "AAAAAAAAAARRRGH!!" runs screaming away from of complexity until it smashes into a low-hanging tree branch and lies senseless in a pool of it's own drool |
| 02:49.00 | Wobin_ | PTR problem? |
| 02:49.03 | bleeter | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:49.16 | bleeter | s/t\?/ty\?/ |
| 02:49.21 | Tem|work | ~literal fear of complexity |
| 02:49.22 | purl | ACTION "AAAAAAAAAARRRGH!!" runs screaming away from of complexity until it smashes into a low-hanging tree branch and lies senseless in a pool of it's own drool |
| 02:49.34 | Tem|work | ~factinfo fear of complexity |
| 02:49.35 | purl | fear of complexity -- last modified at Tue Dec 13 03:08:43 2005 by kergoth!n=kergoth@c-24-118-219-25.hsd1.mn.comcast.net; it has been requested 11 times, last by Tem at Tue May 1 18:58:27 2007. |
| 02:50.01 | AnduinLothar | beat him up |
| 02:50.03 | Wobin_ | the grammar of that fact is a bit.... off |
| 02:50.12 | bleeter | ~whaleslap kergoth |
| 02:50.13 | purl | ACTION beats kergoth upside and over the head with a freakishly huge killer whale named Hugh |
| 02:50.16 | Shirik | ~literal fear of |
| 02:50.17 | purl | ACTION "AAAAAAAAAARRRGH!!" runs screaming away from of until it smashes into a low-hanging tree branch and lies senseless in a pool of it's own drool |
| 02:50.23 | Shirik | ~literal fear |
| 02:50.24 | purl | "fear" is "<reply> Fear is the mind-killer. Fear is the little-death that brings total obliteration. I will face my fear. I will permit it to pass over me and through me. And when it has gone past I will turn the inner eye to see its path. Where the fear has gone there will be nothing. Only I will remain." |
| 02:50.44 | Wobin_ | ~factinfo fear |
| 02:50.44 | purl | fear -- created by greycat <~wooledg@imadev.eeg.ccf.org> at Wed Feb 27 14:52:22 2002 (2032 days); it has been requested 5 times, last by kadrahil at Tue Sep 4 12:06:12 2007. |
| 02:53.40 | bleeter | and on a totally OT and deeply disturbing note, http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/england/tees/7002627.stm |
| 02:55.49 | AnduinLothar | he was on drugs |
| 02:55.56 | AnduinLothar | and drunk |
| 02:57.06 | bleeter | alcohol isn't a drug? |
| 02:57.33 | AnduinLothar | you tell me |
| 02:57.57 | AnduinLothar | tylonol's a drug |
| 02:58.02 | Wobin_ | O.O |
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| 02:58.27 | Wobin_ | and so what if he was on drugs and drunk? =P |
| 02:58.38 | Wobin_ | What has that to do with anything? |
| 02:58.47 | AnduinLothar | recommended dosage of tylonol does not make you lose inhibition |
| 02:58.56 | Wobin_ | and so |
| 02:58.58 | Wobin_ | he's excused |
| 02:59.02 | Wobin_ | cause he was high, and drunk |
| 02:59.04 | Wobin_ | ? |
| 02:59.04 | AnduinLothar | didn't say that |
| 02:59.22 | Wobin_ | but you said "he was on drugs and drunk" like it was an excuse =P |
| 02:59.24 | AnduinLothar | being high isn't actually illegal |
| 02:59.33 | AnduinLothar | neither is being drunk |
| 02:59.33 | Wobin_ | who said anything about illegal? |
| 02:59.41 | AnduinLothar | jsut stating facts |
| 02:59.46 | Wobin_ | who said anything about illegal? |
| 02:59.55 | AnduinLothar | who said i was defending him? |
| 03:00.08 | bleeter | depends what you're doing when you're high/drunk, eg driving a car, as to whether it's illegal or not |
| 03:00.21 | Wobin_ | why state the facts if you're not making a specific point? |
| 03:00.22 | AnduinLothar | this is true |
| 03:00.22 | bleeter | well, in most western societies |
| 03:00.35 | AnduinLothar | does everything you say have a point? |
| 03:01.01 | Wobin_ | yes. |
| 03:01.07 | AnduinLothar | cause I'm positive I say a lot of things just cause I'm thinkign them, not to actually lead anyone anywhere |
| 03:01.11 | Wobin_ | Otherwise I don't bother saying it =P |
| 03:01.43 | AnduinLothar | is there a point to arguing with an unargumentative statement? |
| 03:02.05 | Wobin_ | Just finding it odd, that you make statements of the sort, then deny you're making statements =P |
| 03:02.36 | AnduinLothar | i made a statement about drugs and alcohol, not a statement about his guilt or the morality of it |
| 03:02.55 | Wobin_ | <bleeter> and on a totally OT and deeply disturbing note, http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/england/tees/7002627.stm |
| 03:02.55 | Wobin_ | <AnduinLothar> he was on drugs |
| 03:02.55 | Wobin_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:03.02 | Wobin_ | ... |
| 03:03.03 | Wobin_ | okay |
| 03:03.19 | Wobin_ | She was disabled. |
| 03:03.22 | Wobin_ | And Dead anyway |
| 03:03.40 | AnduinLothar | it doesn't actually say when she died |
| 03:03.42 | bleeter | no, she was dieing |
| 03:03.46 | AnduinLothar | just that she did |
| 03:03.48 | Wobin_ | oh okay |
| 03:03.50 | Wobin_ | She was disabled |
| 03:03.54 | Wobin_ | and dying in any case |
| 03:04.00 | AnduinLothar | she could have died before or after being peed on |
| 03:04.21 | Wobin_ | yes |
| 03:04.22 | Wobin_ | that's true |
| 03:04.26 | AnduinLothar | not that either is kosher. |
| 03:04.34 | bleeter | he admitted to urinating on her while she was ill |
| 03:04.50 | AnduinLothar | hmmm, does that mean she was still alive? |
| 03:04.59 | bleeter | and, I guess one could be dead and called 'gravely ill', that's not that common |
| 03:05.25 | AnduinLothar | the tone of the acticle kinda of makes me assume she was, but it might just be that the reporter didn't know and spun it to sound worse |
| 03:05.33 | Wobin_ | actually, I don't think there's anything in the article that points out a specific timeline |
| 03:06.04 | Wobin_ | I'd say he 'admits urinating on a woman' |
| 03:06.14 | Wobin_ | but the state of the woman at the time is pretty untellable |
| 03:06.27 | AnduinLothar | excludign context, yes |
| 03:06.33 | bleeter | I guess any evidence would be in the mobile phone recording |
| 03:06.36 | Wobin_ | since you can't depend on the person who was closest to the woman at the time to determine her health |
| 03:06.39 | AnduinLothar | probably |
| 03:06.41 | Wobin_ | yeah |
| 03:06.55 | AnduinLothar | which i don't really want o watch |
| 03:07.40 | AnduinLothar | so what's the moral here.... don't do weed and alcohol at the same time? |
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| 03:07.51 | Wobin_ | there's no moral really |
| 03:08.09 | Wobin_ | it's just a sad story |
| 03:08.10 | AnduinLothar | don't do weed and alcohol at the same time if you are morally bankrupt already? |
| 03:08.10 | bleeter | help those who are in need, don't think of youtube first |
| 03:08.36 | Wobin_ | "Helping people out can -also- go on youtube!" |
| 03:08.58 | Wobin_ | (although probably won't get as many views) |
| 03:08.58 | Dreadlorde | Hi everyone |
| 03:09.20 | AnduinLothar | hmm, might make itself into an anti-drug campaign eventually. whenever it's deteriorated to a statistic. |
| 03:10.33 | Wobin_ | "One man out of X on drugs urinates on dying women in the street. DON'T DO DRUGS!"? |
| 03:11.00 | AnduinLothar | i was thinkign more allong the lines of percentage of drug related court cases |
| 03:11.29 | AnduinLothar | or the relationship there of of multiple substance abuse |
| 03:13.20 | Wobin_ | hm, is it EotS weekend? |
| 03:13.24 | AnduinLothar | yes |
| 03:13.25 | bleeter | yup |
| 03:13.32 | Kaydeethree | oh wow... the PTR forum's about to riot. they've disabled premades |
| 03:13.45 | AnduinLothar | worst pvp weekend ever |
| 03:13.51 | Wobin_ | Kaydeethree: oh noes, who am I going to duael? |
| 03:14.02 | Wobin_ | I should do some EotS |
| 03:14.11 | Wobin_ | but geez, I dislike pvp at the best of times =P |
| 03:17.30 | AnduinLothar | DRM technology used in consumer media may be violating Canadian privacy laws, according to a new report. |
| 03:17.41 | AnduinLothar | see slashdot |
| 03:17.47 | Wobin_ | hm, are there any good strat pages on eots out there? |
| 03:18.17 | AnduinLothar | step 1) take the towers. step 2) capture the flag |
| 03:18.45 | AnduinLothar | taking 2 and disturbing a 3rd can work. or cap 3 |
| 03:18.55 | AnduinLothar | just need organization |
| 03:19.16 | Wobin_ | hehe |
| 03:19.18 | Wobin_ | organisation =) |
| 03:19.20 | Wobin_ | >< |
| 03:19.44 | Wobin_ | wtb premade =P |
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| 03:21.30 | Wobin_ | !c us argent dawn debtors |
| 03:21.33 | ThraeBot | Wobin_: Debtors, Level 70 Dwarf Paladin (5/48/8). 10237 HP; 4773 Mana; 89 mana regen; 5 mp5; 12306 Armour; 720 AP; 114.200 Melee DPS; 6.26% melee crit; 30 +spell dmg/heal; 302 defense; 11.64% dodge; 13.80% block; 10 frost resist (+10);[[ TBR: 737 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/23sm6y ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/2w5cbx ][ Updated: Fri Sep 21 23:35:35 2007 EST ]] |
| 03:21.37 | Wobin_ | hm |
| 03:21.43 | Wobin_ | is that a tanky pally? |
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| 03:36.06 | Kaydeethree | lmao, the second sticky has hit the threadcap today |
| 03:36.17 | Kaydeethree | people are addicted... this is fun to watch |
| 03:41.09 | Thunder_Child | sticky about what? |
| 03:41.16 | Kaydeethree | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=1778041257&sid=1 |
| 03:41.17 | bleeter | 2.2.2 PTR not being up yet |
| 03:41.34 | Thunder_Child | eh...no patch then this tue? |
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| 03:41.39 | Tierrie | wow players are such crack afficts |
| 03:41.41 | Tierrie | addicts |
| 03:41.58 | Kaydeethree | the 2.2 patch is happening tuesday, the 2.2.2 PTR patch will be happening tonight or tomorrow |
| 03:42.08 | Thunder_Child | ah.. |
| 03:42.11 | Thunder_Child | ty |
| 03:42.29 | Thunder_Child | still dont see why they cant wait a few days |
| 03:42.39 | Thunder_Child | maybe play the "real" game |
| 03:42.58 | cog|laptop | oooh... i guess that means i'll be able to fix CogsBar before tuesday then :) |
| 03:43.19 | cog|laptop | assuming i have a working computer... |
| 03:43.38 | bleeter | I'm more amused by the #8 read post in the forum... I guess folks are just reading anything a blue's ever posted in |
| 03:43.52 | bleeter | cog|laptop: ow! don't hit me! :( |
| 03:44.10 | Kaydeethree | ya, it's funny how there's ~3 posts on page 1 of the wine thread |
| 03:45.00 | bleeter | once the PTR's up, and I've added the PTR AppDB entry, I'll ask hortus to delete all but two other posts (about Wine being illegal), lock and request sticky ;) |
| 03:45.18 | bleeter | or if you're gunna do another 2.2.2 FAQ thingie, just get you to link to it |
| 03:46.10 | Kaydeethree | nah. he linked my wowwiki version of the guide in his faq, I'm assuming if I repost it it's not going to get restickied |
| 03:46.17 | Kaydeethree | someone else reposted my guide and that's how hortus responded |
| 03:46.56 | bleeter | ah, didn't realise you'd done a wowwiki version... I'll edit in a Wine section when we get there :) |
| 03:47.12 | Kaydeethree | [[Getting on the Test Realm]] |
| 03:47.25 | Kaydeethree | damn, that doesn't work in here |
| 03:48.02 | bleeter | got it |
| 03:49.15 | Legorol | i haven't been following PTR stuff for a week or so, can someone get me up to speed on what's going on? |
| 03:49.26 | Legorol | what's this 2.2.2? what's in it? why are they doing it? what happened to 2.2? |
| 03:49.32 | Legorol | or shall i just read up on it on forums |
| 03:49.32 | Kaydeethree | right now, nothing. 2.2.0 is done testing, 2.2.2 will be going up tonight or tomorrow |
| 03:49.36 | bleeter | right, if hortus is happy to link to that, I'll be happy to edit that page to 'work' for wine, then get him to delete the Wine PTR forum thread. And request he does mention Wine in his notes, but point to your guide, etc. etc. etc. |
| 03:49.43 | Legorol | hmmm |
| 03:49.50 | kergoth | bleeter: you misinterpreted those factoids. |
| 03:49.50 | Kaydeethree | forums got wiped, just as an fyi. they're all spam at present |
| 03:49.53 | kergoth | ~fear bleeter |
| 03:49.53 | purl | ACTION "AAAAAAAAAARRRGH!!" runs screaming away from bleeter until it smashes into a low-hanging tree branch and lies senseless in a pool of it's own drool |
| 03:49.57 | kergoth | see |
| 03:50.02 | kergoth | there's a fear $foo |
| 03:50.02 | Legorol | so there are known issues in 2.2, they are already working on it for 2.2.2, but they can't delay 2.2 any longer? |
| 03:50.09 | Legorol | that doesn't sound liek blizzard :( |
| 03:50.09 | kergoth | as well as a specific 'fear of complexity' |
| 03:50.17 | kergoth | the specific one is never seen, cause the command one is always hit first |
| 03:50.22 | kergoth | ~forget CMD: fear (.*?) |
| 03:50.22 | purl | i forgot cmd: fear (.*?), kergoth |
| 03:50.24 | Kaydeethree | short of a few sound issues I'm pretty sure 2.2 was stable enough |
| 03:50.27 | kergoth | ~fear of complexity |
| 03:50.27 | purl | FEAR OF COMPLEXITY: That which causes you to implement as little as possible, as simplicity is easier to fix. As well, that which prevents feature creep due to the environmental damage it causes. Hence, the fourth great virtue of a programmer. |
| 03:50.41 | Kaydeethree | voice chat's running on different hardware so they can always leave it disabled if necessary |
| 03:50.56 | Legorol | ok one thing that's not clear from the posts on the forums: |
| 03:50.56 | kergoth | ~insult bleeter |
| 03:51.00 | Legorol | are the characters wiped? |
| 03:51.03 | Kaydeethree | yes |
| 03:51.03 | Legorol | is there a new client for 2.2.2? |
| 03:51.04 | Legorol | etc. |
| 03:51.05 | Kaydeethree | yes |
| 03:51.08 | Legorol | aha, ok |
| 03:51.14 | bleeter | Legorol: iirc, there's new seasonal content they need testing ASAP (something about a beerfest, iirc) |
| 03:51.19 | Kaydeethree | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=1778021183&sid=1 |
| 03:51.25 | kergoth | so is 2.2 definately hitting tues? |
| 03:51.34 | Kaydeethree | unelss there's a showstopper behind the scenes |
| 03:51.46 | Cidan | After 2 years |
| 03:51.48 | Kaydeethree | QA must've said "go" otherwise it'd still be on the PTR |
| 03:51.59 | Cidan | When is any patch "Definately" unless Blue says so? |
| 03:52.06 | Legorol | cheers kadrahil |
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| 03:53.13 | Legorol | so when did 2.2 finish? |
| 03:53.17 | Legorol | i missed it it seems |
| 03:53.18 | Kaydeethree | yesterday |
| 03:53.27 | Kaydeethree | around 11 am pacific time |
| 03:53.39 | Legorol | aha |
| 03:53.45 | Legorol | i wonder if i missed any patches |
| 03:53.51 | Kaydeethree | last build was 7272 |
| 03:53.53 | Legorol | since wdn is awfully out of that |
| 03:54.00 | Kaydeethree | http://spyglass-server.com/wowints |
| 03:54.20 | Legorol | meh, i only got up to 7261 |
| 03:54.28 | Kaydeethree | so only one out-of-date |
| 03:54.31 | Legorol | Kaydeethree: unfortunatley that doesn't contain the API scans i normally do |
| 03:54.42 | Kaydeethree | best I can do, I don't have wdn's scripts |
| 03:54.42 | Legorol | although i don't expect any new API this late |
| 03:54.51 | Legorol | no i meant i do them for myself |
| 03:55.33 | Legorol | well, seems like time to delete all those 0.2.0.x-to-0.2.0.y patch files :) |
| 03:55.47 | Kaydeethree | wipe out your whole WoWTest folder, save yourself some trouble |
| 03:57.03 | Legorol | hehe i know |
| 03:57.03 | Legorol | been through this many many times |
| 03:57.05 | Legorol | there's something that worries me, throughout the entire 2.2 PTR the Shartuul's Transporter event was bugged for me as well as a small number of other testers |
| 03:57.17 | Legorol | not for everyone, but enough people that i noticed others posting about the same issues that i had |
| 03:57.22 | Legorol | i dread that they left that in |
| 03:58.42 | Legorol | actually, this will be interesting.. |
| 03:58.50 | Legorol | if they are going to release a patch that allows us to go on to 2.2.2 |
| 03:58.54 | Legorol | what would this patch look like? |
| 03:58.59 | Legorol | 2.1.3-to-2.2.2? |
| 03:59.04 | Kaydeethree | most likely |
| 03:59.10 | Legorol | and then later, once 2.2 is live... |
| 03:59.22 | Legorol | bah, good thing they have patch engineers, it's complicated :D |
| 03:59.22 | Kaydeethree | 2.2.0-2.2.2 |
| 03:59.37 | Legorol | yeha i kntow that |
| 03:59.46 | Legorol | but imagine the complexity of deploying the right sort of patches :) |
| 04:01.03 | Kaydeethree | oh wtf. my system clock is off by 10 minutes |
| 04:02.27 | bleeter | ~lart kergoth |
| 04:02.27 | purl | --purges kergoth |
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| 04:02.47 | bleeter | ironic |
| 04:02.52 | Kaydeethree | oh wow. he finally fixed it |
| 04:02.53 | Kaydeethree | neat |
| 04:06.20 | ScytheBlade1 | Kaydeethree, you know, with your fame on the PTR boards, you'll be an MVP sooner than you'd like. |
| 04:06.39 | bleeter | time to change yer posting ID |
| 04:06.53 | ScytheBlade1 | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=1778021183&sid=1&pageNo=2#28 <-- I read that and laughed |
| 04:08.27 | Olison | ~MVP |
| 04:08.40 | Olison | purl: fetch! |
| 04:08.40 | purl | hmm... fetch is Hey, just say what you really mean! |
| 04:11.06 | kergoth | purl sucks |
| 04:11.07 | purl | only if you ask nicely and pay well. |
| 04:12.09 | bleeter | Kaydeethree: how'd yer wine build go? :P |
| 04:12.31 | Kaydeethree | oh, it's done finally. lessee |
| 04:13.26 | ScytheBlade1 | Anything new happen with the wine source that I should take an interest in? |
| 04:13.55 | bleeter | crash on exit change comitted to git |
| 04:14.03 | bleeter | afk for 10-15 |
| 04:14.37 | Kaydeethree | fixed, huzzah |
| 04:19.32 | ScytheBlade1 | lol @ PTR thread "Hortus's Fury" |
| 04:20.47 | ScytheBlade1 | It's like the PTR board has become the new general, only with a whole lot less content |
| 04:20.51 | ScytheBlade1 | And that's saying something |
| 04:22.10 | Legorol | general ever had content?? |
| 04:22.16 | Legorol | i must've missed something |
| 04:23.23 | ScytheBlade1 | You can see why I'm amazed |
| 04:24.02 | Legorol | gnight folks |
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| 04:33.03 | Cidan | You know |
| 04:33.08 | Cidan | I think I've given up on the Wii |
| 04:33.15 | Cidan | I'm really just not going to get anything else for it. |
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| 05:18.44 | Tierrie | I should invite preemptive porn |
| 05:18.54 | Tierrie | its like porn, but downloads itself before you want it |
| 05:18.57 | Tierrie | invent |
| 05:21.08 | buu | Tierrie: So you're reinventing skinemax? |
| 05:21.34 | Tierrie | what? |
| 05:21.37 | Tierrie | damn it! |
| 05:21.41 | Tierrie | i should have patented my idea |
| 05:21.52 | buu | I'm sure you still can. |
| 05:22.55 | Tierrie | torrent really goes nuts when you have 50+ peers |
| 05:23.10 | Tierrie | i mean 50+ seeds and like 3 peers |
| 05:23.16 | Tierrie | thats what happens when you download legal stuff :( |
| 05:23.37 | Tierrie | illegal torrents have like 1 seed and like 1739871293 peers |
| 05:26.43 | buu | Yeah |
| 05:30.07 | bleeter | ScytheBlade1: wow, indeed, that hortus's fury ptr thread is win |
| 05:30.31 | ScytheBlade1 | Told tou |
| 05:32.28 | ScytheBlade1 | s/t/y/ |
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| 06:36.25 | art3mis | so RE3 was meh |
| 06:37.26 | buu | NEVER. |
| 06:37.45 | art3mis | its got some alright parts and visually its pretty good |
| 06:37.55 | art3mis | but as far as a zombie movie goes it's so-so |
| 06:38.19 | buu | None of them struck me as very zombie movies. |
| 06:38.24 | art3mis | and its got more of that ever so popular up close so we dont need to coreograph a proper fight scene style |
| 06:38.29 | buu | =[ |
| 06:38.31 | buu | Shakey cam? |
| 06:38.34 | art3mis | yeah |
| 06:38.41 | buu | Lame |
| 06:38.43 | buu | Very lame. |
| 06:38.45 | art3mis | like imagine the whole fight scene at the end of re2 |
| 06:38.54 | art3mis | only for EVERY fight scene anywhere |
| 06:38.57 | buu | Or the entirety of bourne ultimatum |
| 06:39.01 | art3mis | yeah |
| 06:42.38 | buu | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:48.05 | art3mis | wasnt as good as i hoped |
| 06:48.11 | art3mis | but they did a great job on nemesis |
| 06:48.17 | art3mis | and carlos and jill |
| 06:48.34 | art3mis | 1 is still the best of bunch |
| 06:48.45 | art3mis | but it had all the game elements that made re great |
| 06:49.45 | buu | Heh |
| 06:49.48 | buu | I really don't like 1 |
| 06:50.03 | buu | But I don't like zombie movies in general anway |
| 06:50.04 | art3mis | no? |
| 06:50.09 | art3mis | wierdo |
| 06:50.21 | buu | Well, not a "really don't like" but, I don't like it, really. |
| 06:50.32 | buu | Milla is quite good, and the opening manson soundtrack is epic win |
| 06:50.38 | buu | But other than that it's meh sauce. |
| 06:50.42 | buu | RE2 is my favorite. |
| 06:51.45 | art3mis | heh |
| 06:51.53 | art3mis | i loved the first 1 |
| 06:52.01 | buu | It was sort of blah |
| 06:52.14 | buu | I've never played the games, so I don't have any nostalgia going for me |
| 06:52.27 | art3mis | the second was good for the characters mainly but the story blew, and most of the action stuff was stolen from Equilibria |
| 06:52.29 | buu | But I enjoyed the pure action movie of the second one over the silly attempts at horror and jumps in the firs tone. |
| 06:52.36 | buu | There was a story? |
| 06:52.43 | art3mis | yeah ;) |
| 06:52.46 | buu | Also, the ending sequence of RE2 was all sorts of hot. |
| 06:52.53 | art3mis | thats one of the things that re1 had totally going for it |
| 06:52.58 | buu | A story? |
| 06:53.20 | art3mis | it had the video game story leading it, most fo the "unknowns" were known to us |
| 06:53.25 | art3mis | it fit in well |
| 06:53.47 | buu | There's an insane computer.. AND zombies! |
| 06:53.51 | buu | Hell of a story. |
| 06:53.54 | art3mis | the only thing they never carried over from the game to the movies was the wierdness of the mayor and his affinity for cult stuff ;P |
| 06:54.07 | art3mis | no the whole umbrella bioengineering thing |
| 06:54.12 | buu | Bleh. |
| 06:54.21 | buu | That's not a story, it's a giant plot device |
| 06:54.21 | art3mis | and how the t virus spread to the state it's in for the games etc |
| 06:54.50 | art3mis | you've seen equilibrium right? |
| 06:55.39 | art3mis | 90% of the end fight in re2 is a rip off from that movie |
| 06:55.49 | art3mis | but nemesis made re2 bareable |
| 06:56.17 | art3mis | they did him so perfectly i couldnt help but mutter "staaaaaarrrrrrs" everytime he showed up |
| 06:56.24 | Thunder_Child | lol, funny you should mention that i just got that dvd in them mail today |
| 06:56.40 | Thunder_Child | the* |
| 06:58.03 | buu | Equilbrium is amazing |
| 06:58.07 | buu | But I didn't see the rip off |
| 06:58.10 | buu | Or any similartiy |
| 06:58.12 | buu | Whatsoever |
| 06:59.40 | art3mis | the whole helmeted soldiers |
| 06:59.45 | art3mis | the close up fighting |
| 07:00.00 | art3mis | the same steal gun smash hfaceplate moves |
| 07:01.21 | buu | Wwwwwwwwell |
| 07:01.24 | buu | Ok, you have a point |
| 07:01.32 | buu | But I think it's more an example of convergent evolution |
| 07:01.45 | buu | I mean, if you have hand to hand with people in motorcycle helmets |
| 07:01.50 | buu | You're going to smash the face |
| 07:01.53 | art3mis | heh |
| 07:01.55 | Thunder_Child | Gun-Kata TFW |
| 07:02.01 | buu | Agreed |
| 07:02.06 | art3mis | just seemed so week and un inspired(re2) that is |
| 07:02.11 | art3mis | weak |
| 07:02.20 | art3mis | it could have been so much better |
| 07:02.24 | buu | I wouldn't call it amazing, or original or anything like that, but I quite like it. |
| 07:02.28 | art3mis | you'll prolly enjoy re3 more than i did |
| 07:02.32 | buu | Excellent. |
| 07:02.40 | art3mis | ive got the games corruptig my views of them |
| 07:02.49 | buu | Haha, I watched an animated movie the other day |
| 07:02.56 | buu | The Invincible Ironman |
| 07:03.05 | buu | It was such a complete rip off of bat man |
| 07:03.09 | art3mis | heh |
| 07:03.14 | art3mis | that looks awesome btw |
| 07:03.23 | buu | Ironman? |
| 07:03.26 | art3mis | yeah |
| 07:03.34 | buu | It was .. not win. |
| 07:03.46 | art3mis | the new one with robert downy jr? |
| 07:03.58 | buu | No I was talking about the animasted one. |
| 07:04.02 | art3mis | oh heh |
| 07:04.07 | art3mis | yeah anime is hit and miss |
| 07:04.24 | art3mis | ist either really good or really bad |
| 07:04.32 | buu | It was sort of decent |
| 07:04.36 | art3mis | there doesnt seem to be much "so-so" |
| 07:04.40 | buu | But ironman was a huge asshole. |
| 07:04.45 | art3mis | heh |
| 07:04.54 | buu | And the villains were weird .. chinese.. spirits.. |
| 07:05.20 | buu | The Sorcerer Supreme was a pretty great batman ripoff also. |
| 07:06.10 | buu | The entire movie was like the 15 minute tibetan series expanded |
| 07:06.14 | buu | Er, sequence |
| 07:08.53 | Tierrie | he is! |
| 07:08.59 | Tierrie | i like how ironman is not batman |
| 07:09.00 | Tierrie | :D |
| 07:09.05 | Tierrie | in the "tortured" kind of sense |
| 07:09.15 | buu | He still managed to be tortured |
| 07:09.25 | buu | But they had the exact boardroom scene |
| 07:09.25 | Tierrie | he's a republican |
| 07:09.29 | Tierrie | that's just his problem |
| 07:10.32 | buu | I also saw an .. avengers movie |
| 07:10.35 | buu | With captain america |
| 07:10.39 | buu | It was also made of pure fail. |
| 07:11.11 | Tierrie | problem with cap is that america is so divided |
| 07:11.19 | buu | Isn't he dead now |
| 07:11.22 | Tierrie | yes |
| 07:11.25 | Tierrie | he got shot and killed |
| 07:11.32 | Tierrie | after he turned himself in to ironman's team |
| 07:11.56 | buu | Captain america was actually pretty good in the movie, but it devolved in to a hulk fight |
| 07:12.00 | buu | Which lacked something |
| 07:12.20 | Tierrie | hulk is boring |
| 07:12.23 | buu | Yeah |
| 07:12.28 | Tierrie | unless you go over the top, there's really nothing to him |
| 07:12.55 | buu | It was hard on my suspension of disbelief when hulk punches someone 18ft through the ground.. |
| 07:12.59 | buu | Then he gets back up. |
| 07:13.34 | buu | Are we on freenode? |
| 07:13.40 | Cairenn | yes |
| 07:13.50 | buu | Hot. |
| 07:14.03 | buu | art3mis and Tierrie, I suggest joining ##cinema |
| 07:25.31 | Tierrie | :( |
| 07:26.04 | buu | What? |
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| 07:33.28 | art3mis | http://www.bbspot.com/News/2007/09/microsoft-reveals-windows-vista-sp1-will-install-xp.html |
| 07:43.35 | cryogen | thats not even remotely funny :) |
| 07:45.55 | buu | It's bbspot |
| 07:47.39 | art3mis | http://crave.cnet.co.uk/0,39029477,49292857-1,00.htm |
| 07:48.49 | art3mis | http://almy.us/image/dungeon.jpg <-- hand drawn map of zork |
| 07:50.44 | art3mis | http://lolthulhu.com/ |
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| 08:03.26 | art3mis | http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/List_of_misquotations |
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| 08:13.49 | Thunder_Child | the core of bad translation --> stupidity http://allyourbase.planettribes.gamespy.com/video1_view.shtml |
| 08:17.37 | Cairenn|afk | rofl, haven't seen that in forever |
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| 08:33.56 | Arelenda | Hey there, I'm writing an addon that's trying to monitor trinkets and set bonus temp procs, so I'm finding out about unit buffs.. Am I really correct in assuming there's no way to retrieve the text of a given buff? |
| 08:34.54 | Arrowmaster | you can |
| 08:35.24 | Arrowmaster | if you want the full text you have to scan the tooltip |
| 08:35.46 | Arelenda | can you point me in the right direction? |
| 08:36.43 | Arrowmaster | are you wanting the name or the tooltip text? |
| 08:36.47 | Arelenda | text |
| 08:36.51 | Arelenda | the name you can poll for. |
| 08:37.53 | Arrowmaster | well youll need to create your own hidden tooltip then in your code use the function to set the tooltip to a buff which i think is done by index |
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| 08:38.19 | Arrowmaster | check the widget api for tooltips to find out how to set the buff to it |
| 08:38.28 | Arelenda | thanks a lot. |
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| 09:30.55 | bleeter | PTR build's out |
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| 09:38.28 | bleeter | 79.2MB d/l |
| 09:44.47 | zenzelezz | is that 2.2.2? |
| 09:47.10 | zenzelezz | I'll know MMOs are maturing once less than 90% of the ads for them are barely-clad females of some sort |
| 09:48.59 | bleeter | yeah, 2.2.2 |
| 09:54.00 | bleeter | whoa |
| 09:55.00 | bleeter | my old 2.2.0 premades are still there |
| 09:55.19 | bleeter | lolz I'm naked! |
| 10:11.02 | zenzelezz | your chars too? |
| 10:11.02 | bleeter | yup |
| 10:11.02 | bleeter | and no hearthstone |
| 10:11.02 | bleeter | hell, no bags =) |
| 10:11.04 | bleeter | whoa, just enabled voice and the thing crashed out |
| 10:11.06 | bleeter | lol someone's on a mount that's not in their bags |
| 10:11.06 | bleeter | ah, the 2.2 chars are still there, just all gear's been wiped |
| 10:11.07 | bleeter | new copies seem fine... cept... my fourth copy doesn't seem to have appeared |
| 10:11.08 | zenzelezz | you're amassing a clone army zomg |
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| 10:22.39 | bleeter | free beer spawnrate is crap |
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| 10:58.27 | sag_ich_nicht | bleeter changelog? |
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| 11:29.20 | bleeter | bah |
| 11:29.28 | bleeter | don't go quittin' just before I get back to the keys |
| 11:29.58 | bleeter | fwiw, patch.txt's practically empty |
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| 11:54.26 | bleeter | ~whaleslap sag_ich_nicht |
| 11:54.27 | purl | ACTION beats sag_ich_nicht upside and over the head with a freakishly huge killer whale named Hugh |
| 11:54.56 | bleeter | http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=version&iId=9244 |
| 12:00.54 | sag_ich_nicht | hi bleeter |
| 12:00.56 | sag_ich_nicht | yeah i know |
| 12:01.00 | sag_ich_nicht | now gimme the changelog for 2.2.2 |
| 12:01.37 | bleeter | The latest patch notes can always be found at |
| 12:01.38 | bleeter | http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/patchnotes/test-realm-patchnotes.html |
| 12:01.45 | bleeter | ^^ so says patch.txt |
| 12:02.32 | sag_ich_nicht | ~fail Blizzard |
| 12:02.32 | purl | Blizzard: Fail. |
| 12:02.33 | bleeter | how's this for a bug, though http://i183.photobucket.com/albums/x27/bleeter/22.2_Boxy_brewfest.jpg |
| 12:02.50 | bleeter | only reason I posted it, was that I think someone non-wine sees it too ;) |
| 12:03.13 | sag_ich_nicht | default model and texture for objects missing texture/model |
| 12:03.31 | sag_ich_nicht | there was a helm that had that missing for troll females for like... 2 months or something in live |
| 12:03.59 | bleeter | apparently the drinks or table outside shatt have the same problem |
| 12:04.11 | sag_ich_nicht | lol |
| 12:04.11 | bleeter | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=1778031614&sid=1 |
| 12:04.41 | Wobin | Damnit |
| 12:04.46 | Wobin | I can't run the repair.exe =( |
| 12:05.00 | sag_ich_nicht | haha. |
| 12:05.00 | sag_ich_nicht | die. |
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| 12:10.47 | Wobin | bleeter: does the wine error "Could not find dependent assembly L"Microsoft.Windows.Common-Controls" mean anything tyo you? |
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| 12:16.22 | bleeter | Wobin: which version of wine? |
| 12:17.02 | Wobin | hm latest release |
| 12:17.17 | Wobin | 0.9.45 |
| 12:17.32 | Wobin | that was when I try and run Repair.exe |
| 12:17.43 | Wobin | Nothing shows up, and the process goes to sleep |
| 12:20.07 | bleeter | hmm, have you tried regernating your ~/.wine by removing it or running wineprefixcreate? |
| 12:20.16 | bleeter | (as per my google searching found) :P |
| 12:20.33 | bleeter | http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=9323#c6 |
| 12:20.51 | bleeter | basically, sounds like you've got a screwed registry or something |
| 12:21.36 | bleeter | remember with CD images and loopback filesystems, installing wow's a piece of cake, so losing ~/.wine shouldn't be too much of a drama :P |
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| 12:50.19 | Wobin | hm |
| 12:50.20 | Wobin | okies |
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| 14:41.57 | Kaydeethree | 79.2MB, hrm |
| 14:42.36 | Kaydeethree | and they did it again... wtf |
| 14:42.38 | Punkie` | What's that, Kaydeethree? |
| 14:42.40 | Kaydeethree | all of the /console commands are up |
| 14:42.45 | Kaydeethree | the 2.1.3-2.2.2 PTR patch |
| 14:43.14 | Kaydeethree | at least I got connected to good peers, I'm downloading at 1MB/s |
| 14:43.15 | Kaydeethree | <3 |
| 14:43.20 | Fisker- | HAHAHA |
| 14:43.22 | Fisker- | worldport works |
| 14:43.25 | Fisker- | you rock Kaydeethree |
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| 14:43.48 | Punkie` | what's worldport? |
| 14:43.59 | Kaydeethree | gm command, teleport wherever the ehll you want |
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| 14:44.04 | Industrial | .. |
| 14:44.54 | Kaydeethree | lmao, no patch notes |
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| 14:47.44 | sag_ich_nicht | [16:42] <Kaydeethree> all of the /console commands are up w--lol wut |
| 14:47.49 | sag_ich_nicht | erm |
| 14:47.56 | sag_ich_nicht | [16:42] <Kaydeethree> all of the /console commands are up <--lol wut |
| 14:47.57 | sag_ich_nicht | fixed :X |
| 14:48.09 | zenzelezz | on the 2.2.2 PTR only |
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| 14:49.07 | sag_ich_nicht | i know |
| 14:49.08 | sag_ich_nicht | but still |
| 14:49.10 | sag_ich_nicht | all of them? |
| 14:49.12 | sag_ich_nicht | :X |
| 14:49.19 | Kaydeethree | from what I've been seeing on the forum, yes |
| 14:49.21 | sag_ich_nicht | in before a million teleport users :X |
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| 14:50.30 | Kaydeethree | oops, they didn't wipe characters |
| 14:50.47 | zenzelezz | from what bleeter said, they wiped all their gear and items |
| 14:50.54 | Kaydeethree | ahaha |
| 14:53.21 | sag_ich_nicht | wow |
| 14:53.25 | sag_ich_nicht | blizzard is really creative |
| 14:53.29 | sag_ich_nicht | "Slavering Slave" |
| 14:53.34 | sag_ich_nicht | -_- |
| 14:53.39 | zenzelezz | ..? |
| 14:53.43 | sag_ich_nicht | mob name |
| 14:53.47 | sag_ich_nicht | in blade's edge |
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| 14:58.30 | Industrial | lol |
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| 15:11.22 | Buuyo | Can SecureActionButtonTemplate, or some other sort of secure frame be embedded in to the action bar like it was a skill or macro button? |
| 15:16.36 | Industrial | embedded? You can make your own buttons with CreateFrame that inherit from secure frame templates |
| 15:16.53 | Buuyo | Well I mean, sort of like how you can drag a spell from your spell book in to the action bar |
| 15:17.17 | Buuyo | I want to have a frame that inherits secureactionbuttontemplate that can be "dragged" I guess and stuck in to the action bar =p |
| 15:19.42 | Kaydeethree | New PTR up! Latest build: 7286. Diffs from 6932, 7272 @ http://spyglass-server.com/wowints |
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| 15:24.44 | sag_ich_nicht | Arrowmaster: your sound fixed? |
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| 15:29.32 | Josh_Borke | neva! |
| 15:29.45 | RogueShadow | ever? |
| 15:29.54 | RogueShadow | Aw well, it's ok. |
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| 15:49.50 | Wobin | huh |
| 15:49.58 | Wobin | eots is so much more fun with friends |
| 15:50.04 | Wobin | you can bitch so much better |
| 15:52.30 | Wobin | and what is it that makes hunters think they can fd and get away with it? =P |
| 15:52.58 | Wobin | *click* WAKWAKWAKWAK -*HK*- |
| 15:53.05 | zenzelezz | hay guyse, that hunter we didnt attack just died??? |
| 15:54.16 | Wobin | "Must have had a weak ticker" |
| 15:54.35 | sag_ich_nicht | http://thepiratebay.org/blog/86 |
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| 15:54.37 | sag_ich_nicht | fuck yeah :X |
| 15:54.54 | Wobin | omg |
| 15:54.55 | Wobin | woot |
| 15:54.59 | zenzelezz | ahaha |
| 15:55.00 | Wobin | hehe that's brilliant =) |
| 16:25.18 | Shirik | What buffs could I check for a "raid wipe" status? The only people that are alive should either be Divine Intervention, Vanish, Invisibility, Feign Death |
| 16:25.21 | Shirik | anything I missed? |
| 16:25.50 | zenzelezz | depends what you consider a wipe |
| 16:25.56 | AnduinLothar | soulstone |
| 16:25.56 | zenzelezz | only full wipes? |
| 16:26.17 | AnduinLothar | tho i spose that's stilld ead |
| 16:27.36 | zenzelezz | you could just check for naked hunters ;-o |
| 16:28.20 | Shirik | Basically I want to check if everyone's dead |
| 16:28.29 | Shirik | but it's not that simple because some people are avoiding death :P |
| 16:28.37 | Shirik | But essentially the fight's over |
| 16:29.03 | Shirik | It doesn't have to be a "full wipe" no (SS, etc., but I think SS would still show as dead anyway) |
| 16:29.04 | AnduinLothar | check if you leave combat with more than 10 people dead |
| 16:29.12 | AnduinLothar | or >%50 |
| 16:29.24 | Shirik | but the rest of the raid could still be going |
| 16:29.25 | AnduinLothar | and the boss isn't dead |
| 16:29.32 | zenzelezz | was thinking of resetting bosses; my guild still calls it a wipe with half the people dead |
| 16:29.43 | Shirik | hmm I forgot about that |
| 16:29.56 | Shirik | That's going to be a pain to handle |
| 16:30.13 | Shirik | can I just call UnitAffectingCombat on every person in the raid? >< |
| 16:30.51 | zenzelezz | I'd think so, but really just one way to find out :) |
| 16:32.38 | Shirik | what |
| 16:32.41 | Shirik | ask my raid to wipe? |
| 16:32.47 | Shirik | then what I have to pay their repair bills >< |
| 16:33.27 | zenzelezz | wirte a piece of test code and I'll try it when my guild goes for our first go on Al'ar tomorrow :-p |
| 16:33.30 | zenzelezz | *write |
| 16:34.15 | Shirik | I'd have to send you almost the entire framework >< |
| 16:36.26 | Shirik | I really wish I knew why Windows Explorer crashed so much |
| 16:36.38 | Shirik | I mean, it's nice that they have it auto-restart and all, but seriously, I'm doing nothing and it crashes |
| 16:36.56 | zenzelezz | sounds odd... any special folders or types of folders it happens for? |
| 16:37.18 | Shirik | not even that |
| 16:37.24 | Shirik | just the task bar |
| 16:37.43 | Shirik | (which apparently is also run by explorer) |
| 16:38.32 | Cairenn | morning |
| 16:38.37 | Kaydeethree | ohyao |
| 16:38.42 | Kaydeethree | s/ohyao/ohayo/ |
| 16:41.05 | Shirik | ohayou* |
| 16:42.44 | sag_ich_nicht | Shirik |
| 16:42.54 | sag_ich_nicht | open explorer |
| 16:42.57 | sag_ich_nicht | go to extras, folder options |
| 16:43.03 | sag_ich_nicht | then in the second tab |
| 16:43.14 | sag_ich_nicht | find the option to run folder windows as a separated process |
| 16:43.29 | sag_ich_nicht | enjoy not losing the damn taskbar, and better performance! |
| 16:43.29 | AnduinLothar | does armor reduce dmg from blocks? |
| 16:43.37 | sag_ich_nicht | yes. |
| 16:43.39 | Shirik | But |
| 16:43.40 | AnduinLothar | or just hits/crits/crushing |
| 16:43.41 | sag_ich_nicht | (at least i think so) |
| 16:43.42 | Shirik | I don't even have any folder windows open |
| 16:43.47 | Shirik | It's just the task bar crashing |
| 16:43.49 | sag_ich_nicht | JUST DO IT |
| 16:43.50 | sag_ich_nicht | >< |
| 16:44.00 | zenzelezz | I think block happens after mitigation, but I'm not certain |
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| 16:48.17 | sag_ich_nicht | oO |
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| 18:02.14 | Cairenn | http://www.wowinterface.com/forums/showthread.php?t=12364 |
| 18:02.53 | Fisker- | die |
| 18:02.55 | zenzelezz | :-o |
| 18:03.04 | zenzelezz | that's an interesting comment |
| 18:03.14 | Fisker- | yeah |
| 18:03.19 | Fisker- | i'm interesting |
| 18:03.27 | zenzelezz | don't know about that |
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| 18:06.34 | Cairenn | why die? |
| 18:08.18 | Fisker- | dunno |
| 18:08.35 | Fisker- | can anyone participate btw? |
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| 18:09.16 | Cairenn | premium members |
| 18:09.23 | Fisker- | i mean country-wise |
| 18:09.29 | Cairenn | sure, why not |
| 18:09.41 | Fisker- | alright |
| 18:09.46 | Cairenn | :) |
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| 18:15.29 | dreamss | lol |
| 18:15.35 | dreamss | bongos and fubar |
| 18:16.07 | zenzelezz | what about them? |
| 18:16.49 | dreamss | the book tells you how to use those addons |
| 18:18.42 | dylanm | Yeah... clad's next book should be much more enlightening. |
| 18:19.32 | Tuller | to be fair, it is a better usage guide for bongos than I've written :P |
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| 18:26.40 | JoshBorke | hola all |
| 18:26.49 | Cairenn | hi Josh_Borke |
| 18:26.55 | dylanm | Yo. |
| 18:27.02 | JoshBorke | tricky tricky :D |
| 18:29.45 | Kaydeethree | gah, can't find the dam wolpertingers |
| 18:30.14 | Kaydeethree | +n |
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| 18:32.09 | JoshBorke | yay, pidgin 2.2 = no more crashing on tab |
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| 18:35.24 | ScytheBlade1 | huh @ my PTR characters |
| 18:35.30 | ScytheBlade1 | They're all, um, naked |
| 18:36.02 | ScytheBlade1 | That's awesome |
| 18:36.08 | ScytheBlade1 | All gear on everyone? Gone |
| 18:36.13 | ScytheBlade1 | All bags? Gone |
| 18:36.34 | Cairenn | visual graphic? |
| 18:36.36 | zenzelezz | let me repeat: from what bleeter said, they wiped all their gear and items |
| 18:36.42 | ScytheBlade1 | Yeah, they did |
| 18:36.46 | ScytheBlade1 | It's all 100% gone |
| 18:36.47 | Cairenn | errr, visual error? |
| 18:36.49 | Cairenn | nm |
| 18:36.50 | zenzelezz | no |
| 18:36.51 | ScytheBlade1 | Nope |
| 18:37.11 | zenzelezz | they're tried of all all the PTR slackers ;-p |
| 18:37.19 | zenzelezz | *tired |
| 18:37.29 | zenzelezz | dear god my spelling is haywire tonight |
| 18:37.49 | |Jelly|zZz | So now we have to gear up to test their stuff? |
| 18:38.14 | JoshBorke | |Jelly|: starting nekkid, yep |
| 18:38.21 | JoshBorke | get to farming |
| 18:38.25 | ScytheBlade1 | No bags in the bank either |
| 18:38.27 | Kaydeethree | oh wow |
| 18:38.30 | |Jelly| | No thanks. |
| 18:38.32 | ScytheBlade1 | Oddly, my bank slots are purchased |
| 18:38.35 | ScytheBlade1 | But there are no bags in them |
| 18:38.47 | Kaydeethree | they've got a brewfest quest sending players into BRD |
| 18:39.27 | |Jelly| | ...they even stripped my real transfer. |
| 18:40.08 | |Jelly| | My new premade has gear. : / |
| 18:40.16 | |Jelly| | Just the stuff from last time doesn't. |
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| 18:42.27 | ScytheBlade1 | lol |
| 18:42.33 | ScytheBlade1 | Randomized character features |
| 18:42.45 | ScytheBlade1 | My banks NEVER had hair or skin like this |
| 18:50.04 | Iriel | Sounds like an endorsement for a beauty product |
| 18:50.16 | ScytheBlade1 | lol it does |
| 18:50.18 | Tuller | hehe, thunder 45 |
| 18:50.26 | ScytheBlade1 | Unfortunately, in this case |
| 18:50.29 | ScytheBlade1 | It's a bad thing |
| 18:55.51 | Kaydeethree | egah. they need to retune the wolpentinger spawn times. |
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| 18:57.31 | zenzelezz | wolpentinger? |
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| 18:57.41 | Kaydeethree | one of the brewfest quests |
| 19:08.37 | |Jelly| | I love how people look at my shadow gear and think I don't know what I'm talking about in regards to healing. Makes me all warm inside. |
| 19:09.34 | JoshBorke | FUCK |
| 19:09.49 | |Jelly| | What's up? |
| 19:09.49 | zenzelezz | not that kind of warm inside I think |
| 19:09.55 | |Jelly| | Oh baby. |
| 19:10.29 | Esamynn | so, I'm trying to get a grasp on SetTextCoord 8 arg version, I found http://www.wowwiki.com/SetTexCoord_Transformations but that is missing a step, any one have a link for a guide that fills in the missing step? |
| 19:10.30 | JoshBorke | watchign teh gatech football game |
| 19:10.44 | Iriel | I wrote the current guide, what are you missing? |
| 19:10.59 | JoshBorke | iriel = settextcoord master |
| 19:11.16 | Esamynn | Iriel: "The first step in figuring out your SetTexCoord parameters is to represent your transformation as a matrix. This wont be covered here, but there are plenty of tutorials online concerning the mathematics of matrix transformations." |
| 19:11.19 | MentalPower | Iriel = WoW Coding Master |
| 19:11.48 | Iriel | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transformation_matrix |
| 19:12.26 | Esamynn | thanks |
| 19:12.51 | Esamynn | although, I may just end up using calling the DrawRouteLine function in TaxiFrame.lua anyways ;) |
| 19:12.54 | Iriel | http://www.cs.trinity.edu/~jhowland/cs2322/2d/2d/ |
| 19:13.04 | Esamynn | but I decided I wanted to finish figuring out how it worked |
| 19:13.22 | Iriel | That (indirectly) is the reason why I asked for the 8 arg version in the first place 8-) |
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| 19:30.34 | Tuller | hrm, to remove features from OmniCC to make the text version work on everything, or to not |
| 19:31.49 | |Jelly| | Wait. What? |
| 19:34.43 | dylanm | Tuller: You mean on debuff icons and stuff? |
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| 19:34.54 | Kaydeethree | lmao at the "Is this considered exploiting?" thread |
| 19:35.03 | Tuller | dylanm: I've implemented scaling to solve that :P |
| 19:35.11 | Tuller | dylanm: but yes the blacklist stuff has been nixed :) |
| 19:35.19 | Tuller | dylanm: as in, omnicc will hide on small stuff now |
| 19:35.34 | dylanm | Tuller: What's this "removing features" business? |
| 19:35.50 | |Jelly| | You're supposed to feed the fish, KD3, not tell people to leave them alone! Don't you know how to pass time with effective trolling? JEEZ! |
| 19:36.06 | Tuller | me being lazy. Removing the hide model stuff makes it really easy to make it truly universal (work on nameless frames properly) |
| 19:36.21 | Tuller | same with removing the pulse thing |
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| 19:45.05 | |Jelly| | I wonder if I go take a nap if this thread will still be up when I get back |
| 19:47.05 | Kaydeethree | nah, he symbolically "ended" the thread |
| 19:47.41 | |Jelly| | Seriously. You have to see the mindless entertainment in just prodding people back and forth. |
| 19:48.25 | |Jelly| | He's balance too. I think my most recent post sums up his problems. Thread over. Going to take a nap. <3 |
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| 19:48.53 | |Jelly|napping | wtb |
| 19:50.40 | Lunessa | wts |
| 19:50.57 | zenzelezz | wtt |
| 19:51.06 | |Jelly|napping | What do you have in trade? /wink |
| 19:51.20 | zenzelezz | you ruined it |
| 19:51.29 | zenzelezz | there was still wte and wtf |
| 19:51.44 | |Jelly|napping | So I should have said "C-C-C-C-COMBO BREAKER" ? |
| 19:53.58 | Lunessa | You should have just said "ur mom" and cut out the middle men. |
| 19:54.09 | |Jelly|napping | What? |
| 19:55.24 | Lunessa | On most servers, I see "WTS: xxxxx" followed by "WTS: ur mom" |
| 19:55.32 | |Jelly|napping | oh |
| 19:55.35 | |Jelly|napping | I don't watch trade. |
| 19:55.37 | Lunessa | Someone ALWAYS thinks they're clever or funny. |
| 19:55.37 | |Jelly|napping | : / |
| 20:00.49 | ScytheBlade1 | |Jelly|napping, I love you. " |
| 20:00.49 | ScytheBlade1 | Grats on paying Blizzard at least $15 a month to promote cheating then. It's almost like you're funding them...to screw people. I HOPE YOU FEEL BETTER ABOUT YOURSELF! " |
| 20:00.58 | |Jelly|napping | <3 |
| 20:01.09 | ScytheBlade1 | lol'ing IRL atm |
| 20:02.20 | |Jelly|napping | My attention span isn't big enough. I keep wanting to go to sleep but shiney things, like green dots, keep bringing me back. :\ |
| 20:03.29 | |Jelly|napping | And then you have this retard: http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=1778031804&sid=1&pageNo=2 trying to goat me into posting again so he can say "ZOMG! I thought you ignored me. etc, etc." Which brings me back to loling at people that based my ability / knowledge of healing on my shadow gear. |
| 20:03.47 | |Jelly|napping | s/based/base/ |
| 20:04.58 | Kaydeethree | lmfao |
| 20:05.01 | ScytheBlade1 | Yeah |
| 20:05.03 | ScytheBlade1 | People are morons |
| 20:05.31 | ScytheBlade1 | Wow |
| 20:05.36 | |Jelly|napping | All I have to say is, at least I have the balls to post on my main. :P |
| 20:05.38 | ScytheBlade1 | This guy is a tool of amazing proprotions |
| 20:06.03 | Kaydeethree | it's bad... I actually broke out laughing at that comment |
| 20:06.20 | |Jelly|napping | Which? (Two threads discussed and I wanna laugh too!) |
| 20:06.39 | Kaydeethree | "I'm way out of your league" or however he worded it |
| 20:07.06 | |Jelly|napping | Well. Is there an /International League of Morons and Idiots/ ? |
| 20:08.28 | ScytheBlade1 | "Oh wow... an MVP? MVP doesn't mean anything, buddy -- his post is evidence of that. He's just as stupid you are." |
| 20:08.29 | ScytheBlade1 | A hahahaha |
| 20:10.26 | Maldivia | hmm... so 2.2.2 is already on the PTR :) |
| 20:10.31 | Kaydeethree | yes |
| 20:10.34 | |Jelly|napping | Yes. |
| 20:10.42 | |Jelly|napping | And your existing Premades are naked! |
| 20:14.07 | Maldivia | wohoo... and what's this about a event item, that turns everyone you look at into a gnome? |
| 20:14.27 | Kaydeethree | 100 brewfest tickets |
| 20:14.43 | Kaydeethree | the horde version turns everyone into female orcs |
| 20:17.25 | |Jelly|napping | I'd rather be a gnome. |
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| 20:19.17 | Lunessa | takes that troll a whole 6 minutes to swap form ids. I think he's got a latency issue. |
| 20:19.38 | |Jelly|napping | lol |
| 20:19.40 | Kaydeethree | ya |
| 20:21.16 | Lunessa | All our trolls are l-a-m-e in the extreme. |
| 20:21.36 | |Jelly|napping | But they add a certain pizzaz (???) to the forums! |
| 20:22.47 | |Jelly|napping | It's funny watching this evolve. Dude got owned so he brought in his alt and personal insults. |
| 20:23.09 | |Jelly|napping | Oh crap. |
| 20:23.24 | |Jelly|napping | Dude was proven wrong in such a manner that showed him to be an idiot. |
| 20:23.42 | |Jelly|napping | WHEW! Didn't want you guys to think I actually meant someone claimed him as property. |
| 20:23.55 | Kaydeethree | lmao |
| 20:24.30 | Lunessa | Meh, I know stubborn, obtuse, and stupid when I see them. |
| 20:25.06 | |Jelly|napping | And Iriel is back. GOSH! All these people that don't know anything posting in this thread! |
| 20:25.33 | Iriel | This guy must have had some really bad PvP experiences |
| 20:25.39 | Iriel | and possibly severe head injury as a child |
| 20:26.21 | Kaydeethree | I agree with jelly's analysis, he's QQing about damage meters |
| 20:26.25 | |Jelly|napping | He's balance. I think he got rolled on the damage meters. Asked someone how they were doing it and they happened to mention the latency thing on Quartz. But brain injury is a pretty big possibility. |
| 20:26.58 | Iriel | That's a reasonable analysis, yeah |
| 20:28.32 | Lunessa | Iriel: I find it amusing that he clings to "supposed to" as the reason why it is an exploit. He's adamant in the way only those who are deliberately failing to understand can be. |
| 20:29.56 | |Jelly|napping | He's back to personal attacks! ZING! |
| 20:31.33 | Lunessa | IRC is like the Seinfeld Show - Meta-Discussion about absolutely nothing. :) |
| 20:31.48 | |Jelly|napping | lol |
| 20:32.25 | |Jelly|napping | Is Raine in here, by chance? |
| 20:32.34 | |Jelly|napping | Cause I wanna predict what his response is going to be. :P |
| 20:34.48 | Lunessa | So wait... internet latency/speed of light/electronic transmission is a design flaw in WoW (or any online game) ? Wow - physics FTL |
| 20:35.04 | |Jelly|napping | Don't bring logic in here. |
| 20:35.16 | Tierrie | if Raine is a guy, his response will be "titties" |
| 20:35.19 | Lunessa | Don't confuse my mind with facts! |
| 20:35.23 | |Jelly|napping | He already "owned" (not to be confused, like I stated earlier) all of us with logic! |
| 20:35.54 | Lunessa | ... Wait!!! STOP THE PRESSES! Someone said there would be titties. I need to get my glasses. |
| 20:36.16 | Esamynn | ~sigh Lunessa |
| 20:36.17 | purl | ACTION sighs, rolls its eyes and shakes its head, "Lunessa!" |
| 20:36.47 | Tierrie | come now Lunessa |
| 20:36.58 | |Jelly|napping | Rut roah! He gave himself up at being both the original troll and the troll's butt-hurt buddy! |
| 20:37.06 | Lunessa | Hey, I'm a support geek and technical writer. I find there to be an insufficient supply of said 'titties' in my daily affairs. |
| 20:38.01 | Lunessa | Exactly the same "fist" or "stylistic signature" to his postings? |
| 20:38.46 | |Jelly|napping | His responses. He's forgetting what character he's on, me's thinks! |
| 20:39.42 | Lunessa | Man, Satrina just "pwnt" him. |
| 20:39.54 | |Jelly|napping | haha |
| 20:39.59 | Lunessa | I'm very bored at work today. |
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| 20:43.42 | Kaydeethree | oh boo. did he finally walk away with his tail between his legs? |
| 20:44.50 | |Jelly|napping | After Satrina finally laying the mushroom-stamp (so to speak), more than likely. Although your response was more in line with what I was thinking. |
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| 20:49.46 | Iriel | Except he's back |
| 20:49.55 | buu | What happened? |
| 20:49.58 | Iriel | There's really no point continuing the thread now |
| 20:49.59 | buu | Did I miss drama?! |
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| 20:50.14 | Kaydeethree | indeed. I'm not even gonna open it any more to save myself the temptation |
| 20:50.16 | Iriel | His philosophy seems to be 'I dont care what anyone else says' |
| 20:50.36 | Iriel | (in that he's said as much that any one elses interpretation of anything is irrelevant) |
| 20:50.44 | |Jelly|napping | I've all but given up. He's going in circles and while funny, I've already hit my face on my keyboard a couple times in response to him and well, I don't think neither my keyboard or my face can take much more abuse. |
| 20:50.47 | Iriel | That makes a forum conversation a little unnecessary really. |
| 20:51.10 | Iriel | the only thing that'd help him would be if slouken showed up and posted "This is not an explot, go away" |
| 20:51.25 | Iriel | Apparently "Blizzard haven't fixed the exploit because they dont care" |
| 20:51.31 | Iriel | not because they dont think it's an exploit |
| 20:51.58 | Arrowmaster | whats this 'exploit'? |
| 20:51.59 | |Jelly|napping | But he'd just call Slouken a moron/idiot/dolt/et cetera (still laughing, by the way) and the process would start over. |
| 20:52.04 | |Jelly|napping | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:52.13 | buu | Wacky. |
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| 20:52.33 | Arrowmaster | an 'exploit' with /stopcasting or /stopcasting is an 'exploit'? |
| 20:52.34 | zenzelezz | Tomorrow on Exploits: /cast |
| 20:52.44 | Kaydeethree | "stopcasting is an exploit" |
| 20:52.44 | dylanm | Where's this? |
| 20:52.47 | Arrowmaster | lol |
| 20:52.53 | Kaydeethree | UI, it's the 7-page thread near the top |
| 20:53.08 | |Jelly|napping | Is This Considered Exploiting? [Page: 1 . 2 . 3 . 4 . 5 . 6 . 7] |
| 20:53.18 | Arrowmaster | i dont read wow forums anymore, too many morons to wade through |
| 20:53.20 | Lunessa | Hot Keys - Acceptable Tactic or Dirty Cheat? Next on Geraldo |
| 20:55.22 | dylanm | UI and Macros forum? Not seeing it |
| 20:55.39 | Kaydeethree | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=1778031577&sid=1 |
| 20:55.39 | |Jelly|napping | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=1778031577&sid=1 |
| 20:55.43 | |Jelly|napping | owned |
| 20:56.20 | dylanm | Blizzard's search thingy is pretty useless :p |
| 20:57.59 | dylanm | Oh God. |
| 20:58.05 | dylanm | The person who asked the question is a nut. |
| 20:58.42 | Kaydeethree | s/nut/troll/ |
| 20:59.33 | sag_ich_nicht | obvious troll is oooooooobvious |
| 21:00.26 | dylanm | Sociopaths are nuts, I'd say. |
| 21:00.29 | Iriel | I dunno, self-righteous assholery is sometimes quite genuine |
| 21:02.23 | buu | Hasn't that question really been answered by a blue at some point? |
| 21:02.29 | buu | For the sake of seriousness. |
| 21:02.31 | |Jelly|napping | ...and linked in that thread |
| 21:02.37 | Kaydeethree | yes. he just laughed it off |
| 21:02.52 | Iriel | The language of the answer was apparently not explicit enough |
| 21:03.04 | buu | Oh, heh, it was. |
| 21:03.06 | buu | Sorry. |
| 21:03.16 | Iriel | (Despite everyone else in the world coming to the same unambiguous conclusion) |
| 21:03.22 | [dRaCo] | "Just because some blue said it's ok doesn't mean it's not exploiting, rofl!" |
| 21:04.01 | Shirik | 14(1611:5311:4014) 14(1115Kaydeethree14) http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=1778031577&sid=1 |
| 21:04.01 | Shirik | 14(1611:5311:4014) 14(1115|Jelly|napping14) http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=1778031577&sid=1 |
| 21:04.01 | Shirik | 14(1611:5311:4414) 14(1115|Jelly|napping14) owned |
| 21:04.07 | Shirik | |Jelly|napping: I do believe you are the one who lost |
| 21:04.11 | buu | " |
| 21:04.12 | buu | Meaning... people who have FASTER connections benefit MORE from this exploit." |
| 21:04.16 | buu | That's pretty awesome. |
| 21:04.26 | Shirik | wait hold up |
| 21:04.29 | Shirik | is that teh thread I think it is |
| 21:04.32 | buu | And so awesomely divorced from reality. |
| 21:05.03 | Shirik | no, it's not the same |
| 21:05.07 | Shirik | but it is on the same topic |
| 21:05.14 | Shirik | ffs it's not an exploit. You don't gain anything from it |
| 21:05.39 | buu | I mean, if you're going to be technical, it more or less is an exploit... |
| 21:05.47 | ScytheBlade1 | You do gain something from it |
| 21:05.50 | Shirik | No |
| 21:05.53 | Shirik | You undo what you lost |
| 21:05.54 | Shirik | that's it |
| 21:05.56 | |Jelly|napping | http://i3.tinypic.com/52l848x.jpg -- orly Shirik? |
| 21:05.57 | buu | Yeah. |
| 21:06.22 | zenzelezz | |Jelly|napping: IRC servers don't send your own messages back, so your client cheats |
| 21:06.23 | buu | |Jelly|napping: Your client always sees your messages first. |
| 21:06.27 | Shirik | |Jelly|napping: The fact that your times are off implies to me that your computer's clock is not functioning normally |
| 21:06.38 | Shirik | l2sync |
| 21:06.39 | |Jelly|napping | lol |
| 21:06.44 | buu | FILA. |
| 21:07.05 | Shirik | But yes, to be more serious, the IRC server never acknowledges your transmissions (aside the ACK guaranteed by TCP) |
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| 21:08.27 | Iriel | It's an exploit if you use exploit to mean "perform an action with the expectation of gaining a result" |
| 21:08.38 | Lunessa | 'sploitz! |
| 21:08.55 | Iriel | It's not if you use the definition of "perform an action with the intent of benefiting from a side effect in a way that is contrary to the wishes of blizzard" |
| 21:10.52 | |Jelly|napping | !c us burning legion draconis |
| 21:10.55 | ThraeBot | |Jelly|napping: Draconis, Level 70 Blood Elf Paladin (41/20/0). 8682 HP; 9678 Mana; 139 mana regen; 30 mp5; 14400 Armour; 72.600 Melee DPS; 3.81% melee crit; 170 spell crit; 163 +spell dmg; 1681 +heal; 3.81% dodge; 5.00% block; 164 resilience; +1 all resists (+5 all);[[ TBR: 1050 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/23prar ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/3d7cz9 ][ Updated: Sat Sep 22 17:25:04 2007 EST ]] |
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| 21:12.07 | |Jelly| | I give up. A nap isn't happening. |
| 21:13.12 | Lunessa | Iriel: You are correct, sir. You have Twenty One! |
| 21:15.12 | Kalroth | Iriel for president! |
| 21:15.12 | Corrodias | getting stats from druids to compare them is tough |
| 21:15.18 | |Jelly| | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=1778022039&sid=1 EXPLOIT ALERT! |
| 21:15.38 | Corrodias | unless you log out in the form that you're comparing, it is not going to show you with favorable stats |
| 21:15.39 | buu | Iriel: Well, I think it's worth drawing a distinction between 'contrary to the wishes of blizzard' and 'by passing mechanisms the game attempts to impose' |
| 21:15.39 | Lunessa | I need a nap. I'm at hour 35 of wakefulness. |
| 21:15.55 | Iriel | That depends |
| 21:16.06 | buu | Ok, maybe it's really not worth it |
| 21:16.08 | Iriel | The game is attempting to impose blizzard's wishes |
| 21:16.08 | |Jelly| | !vs us burning legion Jelly us drenden kimina |
| 21:16.11 | |Jelly| | this should be lol |
| 21:16.12 | buu | But the question amuses me |
| 21:16.14 | ThraeBot | |Jelly|: Jelly vs Kimina! Two 70 priests square off!; 15/0/46 vs 23/38/0; Jelly wins by 51 TBRs! |
| 21:16.21 | |Jelly| | orly |
| 21:16.32 | buu | SMITE POWAR. |
| 21:16.41 | |Jelly| | My shadow gear is balls though. : / |
| 21:18.01 | Corrodias | for a feral druid on my realm, i have around the 5th highest agility in cat form, but my strength is much lower than other people's. i think this is due, however, to my gear typically having agility and attack power instead of agility and strength. |
| 21:18.10 | Corrodias | *in cat gear |
| 21:18.30 | Esamynn | which is a bit of a silly choice :P |
| 21:18.46 | art3mis | oh jelly |
| 21:18.51 | |Jelly| | oh? |
| 21:18.55 | Corrodias | whose choice of what are you talking about? |
| 21:18.59 | art3mis | he's refering to an mmowned post about "increaseing your dps" |
| 21:19.00 | Esamynn | yours |
| 21:19.06 | Corrodias | what choice? |
| 21:19.11 | |Jelly| | What? |
| 21:19.19 | Lunessa | Given the choice between raw attack power and strength which will give equivalent attack power, I usually choose the str. |
| 21:19.23 | art3mis | the moron about quartz and stopcasting |
| 21:19.24 | Esamynn | STR is definately the primary Cat Form dps stat |
| 21:19.37 | Corrodias | there are two reasons i disagree |
| 21:19.47 | |Jelly| | How do you know? |
| 21:19.54 | Esamynn | Lunessa: do you include Heart of the Wild in that calculation? |
| 21:19.57 | Corrodias | the first is that the gear available to me in karazhan comes with attack power, not strength, so i didn't make any choice |
| 21:20.32 | Corrodias | the second is that strength is a means to the end of having attack power. if you have 2.2 times as much attack power on an item as you have strength on another, they are equivalent. |
| 21:20.45 | Lunessa | I don't know Corrodias - My druid is Resto-specc'ed and parked at 42 for the last umpteen ages. I usually play a shaman or warrior when I'm making that choice. |
| 21:21.08 | Lunessa | Er, that should have been @Esamynn |
| 21:21.48 | Corrodias | anyway, i generally do not have an opportunity to choose between strength and attack power. the gear comes with one or the other at this point. |
| 21:22.24 | art3mis | |Jelly|: i read it there a while back and had to laugh that they consider it an "exploit" |
| 21:22.34 | |Jelly| | Ahh. |
| 21:22.50 | art3mis | was something like "increase your dps 10%!!" |
| 21:22.54 | Corrodias | i have a macro that casts spells at my focus instead of my target; this is an exploit! |
| 21:23.05 | |Jelly| | I'm still going to tell myself that he got rolled on the damage meters because that lets me believe he was EXPLOITING the combat log! |
| 21:24.36 | Tierrie | exploiting the combat logs |
| 21:24.37 | Tierrie | wow |
| 21:24.43 | Tierrie | that's like me, exploting the weather when it rains |
| 21:24.57 | Corrodias | you are exploiting the rain by using an umbrella! |
| 21:25.17 | Corrodias | everyone else has to get wet |
| 21:25.22 | Tierrie | i am exploiting getting wet in the rain by pouring bottled water on myself |
| 21:25.28 | Tierrie | with an umbrella above me |
| 21:25.42 | Tierrie | its raining! but i have an umbrella! but i will pour water on myself anyway! |
| 21:26.28 | Corrodias | it's like a double exploit |
| 21:26.36 | Tierrie | i should get banned from IRL |
| 21:26.48 | |Jelly| | I'm so proud. I haven't posted on page 7 at all. |
| 21:27.05 | Tierrie | thats like saying you're so proud you haven't masturbated today! |
| 21:27.07 | Tierrie | wow i am on a roll |
| 21:27.10 | Tierrie | zing! |
| 21:27.12 | Esamynn | |Jelly|: i'm even prouder, I haven't posted in the thread at all :P |
| 21:27.20 | |Jelly| | :( |
| 21:27.32 | Tierrie | zing zing zing! |
| 21:27.35 | Esamynn | ~cheeseslap Tierrie |
| 21:27.36 | purl | ACTION slaps Tierrie around with a piece of limburger |
| 21:27.45 | Tierrie | oh no, now i am sad :( |
| 21:27.59 | Tierrie | that reminds me of futurama :) |
| 21:28.18 | Tierrie | prof's all, "and now i am sad again", everyone's like "cool everything's normal" |
| 21:28.59 | |Jelly| | @Delaina's response: He's just going to continue arguing semantics. Like I said -- big circle of dumb. :\ |
| 21:29.21 | Tierrie | circle is not an object |
| 21:29.27 | Tierrie | should be like "big bagel of dumb" |
| 21:29.39 | |Jelly| | s/bagel/cookie/ |
| 21:29.59 | Tierrie | i likey them cookies :D |
| 21:30.07 | |Jelly| | Me too! |
| 21:30.25 | Corrodias | i could get a silver psp now or wait another week and a half for a black one for approximately the same price at this point |
| 21:30.35 | ScytheBlade1 | I had to reply to that thread |
| 21:30.37 | ScytheBlade1 | I just had to |
| 21:30.42 | Esamynn | Corrodias: why wait? |
| 21:30.53 | Tierrie | why get a psp?! |
| 21:31.03 | Lunessa | ummm... 'cause the psp is a waste of cash? |
| 21:31.03 | Esamynn | that is perhaps a better question :P |
| 21:31.04 | Tierrie | get a xbox for halo and mass effect |
| 21:31.14 | Tierrie | or wii for the jedi game |
| 21:31.21 | foxlit | halo = meh |
| 21:31.22 | Tierrie | or just upgrade your computer for porn |
| 21:31.34 | Tierrie | i'd go with the computer path |
| 21:31.42 | Corrodias | because i like black. it's my color. :( but i don't know if i would like a silver one anyway. maybe. |
| 21:31.43 | Tierrie | you don't need new peripherals, you come with a joystick! |
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| 21:31.45 | foxlit | Having said that, PSP = Portable Porn! :) |
| 21:31.58 | Iriel | portable porn with a tiny screen though |
| 21:31.58 | Tierrie | ... |
| 21:32.04 | Lunessa | My powerbook =portable pr0n. |
| 21:32.05 | Iriel | miniscule boobies FTYL |
| 21:32.06 | Tierrie | you want a psp because it comes in black, and black is your color?!?! |
| 21:32.08 | Iriel | FTL, even |
| 21:32.10 | |Jelly| | rofl |
| 21:32.16 | Tierrie | may i suggest buying a burlap bag and putting it over your head |
| 21:32.22 | Tierrie | everything will then be your color |
| 21:32.22 | foxlit | PSP screen is actually better than most portable device screens around |
| 21:32.29 | Corrodias | Esamynn asked "why wait?" |
| 21:32.30 | |Jelly| | ScytheBlade1: rofl |
| 21:32.31 | Iriel | Depends on your definition of portable |
| 21:32.35 | Iriel | Is my MacBook pro portable? |
| 21:32.37 | ScytheBlade1 | |Jelly|, I try |
| 21:32.38 | foxlit | No |
| 21:32.39 | Corrodias | the reason i would wait the extra time is to get it in black instead of silver |
| 21:32.45 | Lunessa | Iriel: /envy |
| 21:32.56 | |Jelly| | http://www.rajuchoubey.homestead.com/files/portable.jpeg imo |
| 21:33.00 | Tierrie | well, is my car portable? |
| 21:33.33 | foxlit | Can you put one in your pocket? |
| 21:33.42 | Iriel | Pocket, no, bag yes |
| 21:33.44 | Lunessa | LOL - " One thing I have learned that helped me not OH that much is not sucking. " |
| 21:33.47 | Iriel | I carry (port) it around all the time |
| 21:34.03 | foxlit | MBP isn't something that I'd feel comfortable about pulling out in a bus, though |
| 21:34.09 | Tierrie | i got a pocketpc for that kind of stuff |
| 21:34.18 | Tierrie | you leave it in your tote bag |
| 21:34.25 | Tierrie | and put explosives in it |
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| 21:34.35 | Tierrie | so if someone steals it, they get 30 yards and BAM |
| 21:34.39 | Tierrie | your data is safe |
| 21:34.40 | Corrodias | it sounds like my cats just spilled all their water |
| 21:34.56 | foxlit | cryptor = easier, safer, and less likely to get you shot at airports |
| 21:35.00 | foxlit | *crypto |
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| 21:35.16 | Tierrie | one thing i learnt from my blizzcon trip is not to wear SEV clothes to the airport |
| 21:35.25 | Esamynn | foxlit: and where's the fun in that? |
| 21:35.31 | ZealotOnAStick | SEV? |
| 21:35.47 | Tierrie | its one of those personal network clothes |
| 21:35.50 | Tierrie | with like, wirings and stuff |
| 21:35.54 | Tierrie | and tons of magnets |
| 21:35.59 | Esamynn | ......... |
| 21:36.04 | Tierrie | looks like clothes but, has like 60 pockets! |
| 21:36.07 | Esamynn | ~cheeseslap Tierrie |
| 21:36.07 | purl | ACTION slaps Tierrie around with a piece of emmenthaler |
| 21:36.08 | |Jelly| | You thought that would be a good idea...when? lol |
| 21:36.22 | Tierrie | it cut down on the amount of lugage i needed to bring :( |
| 21:36.29 | Corrodias | it MUST be black! >:o |
| 21:36.29 | foxlit | Back to the PSP: best screen of everything with the comparable screen sizes, with the possible exception of iPod Touch, which I haven't yet had a chance to look at |
| 21:36.31 | Tierrie | it was a good idea until i walked through the metal detector |
| 21:36.42 | Tierrie | http://www.scottevest.com/v3_store/40_ultimate_cargo_pants.shtml |
| 21:36.50 | Tierrie | you can get a UMPC |
| 21:37.20 | Corrodias | the slim version has improvements to the screen, even |
| 21:37.20 | FlAWD | ipods are ghey! |
| 21:37.22 | FlAWD | FYI |
| 21:37.26 | Corrodias | and controls, though minor |
| 21:38.07 | foxlit | Tierrie: how do prices compare? |
| 21:38.18 | foxlit | (and how do the screens compare?) |
| 21:38.24 | Tierrie | screen's bigger |
| 21:38.26 | Tierrie | it has more functionality |
| 21:38.30 | Tierrie | i don't remember the prices |
| 21:38.33 | Tierrie | 800ish i guess |
| 21:38.39 | Iriel | Dont get me wrong, I have a PSP and the screen is nice, but I've been disappointed with the 'general utility value' of the device |
| 21:38.41 | foxlit | $? |
| 21:38.55 | Tierrie | CND! |
| 21:38.55 | Tierrie | haha |
| 21:38.57 | Tierrie | its the same now! |
| 21:39.03 | Tierrie | oh i am sad now :( |
| 21:39.18 | foxlit | as opposed to 170? |
| 21:39.30 | Lunessa | I don't know. UMD as a media format is not doing it for me. And locking down media input formats? lame. |
| 21:39.30 | foxlit | Iriel: I'm disappointed by the severe lack of worthwhile games |
| 21:39.31 | Corrodias | i wonder why i have to choose "reload index" in WAU to see which addons have been updated |
| 21:39.50 | Corrodias | i identified 10 games i wanted to try |
| 21:39.50 | foxlit | And iPod and mobile phones kicked PSPs butt as far as music is concerned |
| 21:40.13 | foxlit | Leaving the PSP as basically a mobile video / wireless internet device |
| 21:40.24 | foxlit | Corrodias: oh, anything fun? :) |
| 21:40.29 | Lunessa | With crappy input controls. |
| 21:40.45 | Corrodias | i don't know. they decided to make the black one released 3 weeks later than the silver one. |
| 21:40.50 | Corrodias | because SONY IS A BUNCH OF JACKASSES |
| 21:40.54 | foxlit | I've actually used those for a while, and I don't think they're crappy. |
| 21:41.01 | FlAWD | agreed |
| 21:41.15 | FlAWD | still not many good games for ps3 either :P |
| 21:41.31 | Iriel | foxlit: Exactly, the games are dissapointing or non-existant |
| 21:41.47 | Iriel | foxlit: and its web browser, while cute, isnt very easy to use |
| 21:41.56 | Corrodias | the DS didn't have any more attractive a game lineup |
| 21:42.10 | Iriel | the DS at least has some unique input options |
| 21:42.10 | Corrodias | and the dual screens look like nothing but a nuisance to most of them |
| 21:42.19 | Corrodias | uniqueness does not equal value |
| 21:42.21 | foxlit | You could live with it; I actually browsed wow forums with it at some point |
| 21:42.34 | foxlit | Memory limitations on the amount of graphics it can display are sad |
| 21:43.12 | foxlit | I wonder why the PS3 website uses JPEGs to compress a grey-to-grey gradient in a flash applet |
| 21:43.22 | foxlit | It'd be much easier to describe it to flash, and it'd look better :/ |
| 21:43.35 | Corrodias | because sony is jerks |
| 21:44.15 | foxlit | I don't really think that's the right conclusion |
| 21:44.42 | Lunessa | http://www.penny-arcade.com/comic/2007/09/07 |
| 21:45.00 | foxlit | Really? |
| 21:45.04 | foxlit | I would have gone with http://www.penny-arcade.com/comic/2007/09/10 |
| 21:45.05 | foxlit | :) |
| 21:45.23 | Corrodias | i think yahoo is trying to index my little web server in their searches |
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| 21:47.12 | foxlit | Blizzard didn't publish BLP specs as part of anything, ever? |
| 21:48.02 | Lunessa | http://lolthulhu.com/ |
| 21:49.21 | Iriel | foxlit: as far as I know that's right, but they also dont seem to have squashed those 'specs' that other people have published |
| 21:50.49 | foxlit | I have some trouble extracting JPEG textures from War3 BLPs; while the container format seems correct, applications tend to render the JPEG data stream oddly |
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| 21:53.37 | Corrodias | i need food |
| 21:54.06 | Iriel | I need svndumpfilter to run faster |
| 21:54.11 | Lunessa | I need a beer. |
| 21:54.30 | Iriel | food and beer I have in the fridge |
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| 21:54.40 | Lunessa | I'm still in the office. |
| 21:54.40 | FlAWD | i've got captain |
| 21:54.43 | FlAWD | no food or beer though |
| 21:55.09 | cladhaire | I can provide beer |
| 21:55.09 | cladhaire | Well, its tough to do so from an airport |
| 21:55.09 | cladhaire | but either way :P |
| 21:55.23 | Lunessa | cladhaire: you enroute to your UK adventure? |
| 21:55.32 | cladhaire | yep, in Airport #1 |
| 21:55.39 | cladhaire | and if by "adventure" you mean the next four years, then yes :P |
| 21:55.45 | Lunessa | Have a safe set of flights. |
| 21:55.57 | cladhaire | Thank you, I intend to :P |
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| 21:56.12 | Iriel | How many airports do you go through? |
| 21:56.13 | Lunessa | Hey, living internationally is an adventure, no matter HOW long it lasts. |
| 21:56.26 | cladhaire | Iriel: I fly to Dulles, then direct to LHR |
| 21:57.00 | Iriel | Ahh.. I almost got stuck in both of those airports on my way back from the UK a couple of years ago due to weather.. |
| 21:57.05 | Iriel | Fun times, not |
| 21:57.09 | Lunessa | oooo... Enjoy the ride on the unique "people movers" in Dulles. |
| 21:57.09 | cladhaire | ack! |
| 21:57.12 | Iriel | LHR is a depressing place, by the way, dont blame us for it |
| 21:57.23 | cladhaire | haha I don't mind it actually |
| 21:57.27 | Lunessa | LHR is a strange airport. |
| 21:57.28 | |Jelly| | "Can you heal Arc?" "No, I respecced feral last night" "Oh" *five minutes pass* "Wait. You're a priest." <-- lewl |
| 21:57.42 | cladhaire | Now,, Frankfurt is a scary airport |
| 21:57.51 | cladhaire | so many 15 year old boys with guns. |
| 21:57.56 | Iriel | I think Charles de Gaul is the nastiest one of all |
| 21:58.03 | Lunessa | I can't really recall. I slept the whole time I was in Frankfurt. |
| 21:58.14 | Iriel | but I haven't experienced all that many out there in the world, so it may be mild in international comparison |
| 21:58.26 | Lunessa | And de Gaul is the only airport in the world where I've had a gun pointed at me. |
| 21:58.43 | cladhaire | yikes |
| 21:59.09 | Lunessa | So my advice to you if you're in that airport.. learn French |
| 21:59.24 | Lunessa | Make sure the guards understand what you're saying. |
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| 22:00.05 | cladhaire | o hai sioraiocht, how's the airport? |
| 22:00.30 | sioraiocht | lol well, from this angle, probably very similar to how it is for you |
| 22:00.57 | cladhaire | nah, different lighting imo |
| 22:01.37 | Lunessa | ok, enjoy the flights guys. I'm going to drive home before it gets too late. |
| 22:01.48 | Tierrie | why did you get a gun pointed at you? |
| 22:02.23 | Lunessa | I was trying to get currency to use a pay phone. And the exchanges was two feet outisde the transit zone. |
| 22:02.53 | Lunessa | And the guard didn't speak english and I didn't speak french. |
| 22:03.11 | Lunessa | (1987, so post lockerbee, pre most everything else. ) |
| 22:03.50 | Shirik | |Jelly|: You're cruel |
| 22:03.54 | Lunessa | he got tired of me, and stuck a gun in my face. |
| 22:03.56 | |Jelly| | What'd I do? |
| 22:04.01 | Shirik | 14(1711:5511:2914) 14(1115|Jelly|14) "Can you heal Arc?" "No, I respecced feral last night" "Oh" *five minutes pass* "Wait. You're a priest." <-- lewl |
| 22:04.07 | Lunessa | I went to the lounge and skipped my call. |
| 22:04.15 | |Jelly| | I thought it was funny. :\ |
| 22:04.17 | Lunessa | Ciao tutti. |
| 22:04.30 | buu | Feral priests? |
| 22:04.39 | buu | Are those the ones that got abandoned in the woods when they were born? |
| 22:04.42 | Iriel | cladhaire: How long's your layover? |
| 22:19.16 | |Jelly| | !c us burning legion imayatwo |
| 22:19.19 | ThraeBot | |Jelly|: Imayatwo, Level 70 Undead Priest (29/32/0). 6431 HP; 9191 Mana; 303 mana regen; 87 mp5; 170 +spell dmg; 1040 +heal; 4.90% dodge; 3 resilience; 10 shadow resist (+10);[[ TBR: 468 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/22p6p2 ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/3c6owh ][ Updated: Sat Sep 22 18:33:28 2007 EST ]] |
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| 22:23.25 | cladhaire | how am I supposed to respond to this? |
| 22:23.26 | cladhaire | http://pastey.net/74236 |
| 22:24.01 | dylanm | Hehe. |
| 22:24.11 | cladhaire | its too cute, lol |
| 22:24.12 | cladhaire | he'as 15 |
| 22:24.20 | |Jelly| | Your book imo. |
| 22:24.27 | cladhaire | that's kinda lame |
| 22:24.29 | cladhaire | dont like self promotion |
| 22:24.31 | dylanm | You're a superhero to him. |
| 22:25.15 | |Jelly| | Well, it's a viable response and a pretty good foundation because in all honesty, the Hello World tutorials didn't really help me. :\ |
| 22:27.22 | cladhaire | lol i should register for the wowi raffle for my book |
| 22:27.22 | cladhaire | lol |
| 22:27.26 | cladhaire | *wink* |
| 22:27.35 | |Jelly| | lol |
| 22:27.50 | foxlit | It has "Don't get PWN'D" on its cover |
| 22:27.54 | cladhaire | zomg i no |
| 22:27.56 | cladhaire | !! |
| 22:28.07 | foxlit | That's an abomination of the English language I'm not willing to take! |
| 22:28.25 | cladhaire | hehe if you had any idea how much i fought against that cover :P |
| 22:29.08 | cladhaire | okay, we're boarding. brb, Washington, D.C. |
| 22:29.17 | Maldivia | ohh, you no longer get disconnected for linking fake items on PTR... the links gets converted to normal text now... |
| 22:30.05 | Cidan | Dulles?! |
| 22:30.11 | Cidan | That's like 30 min from me |
| 22:30.13 | Cidan | hmm |
| 22:30.31 | foxlit | Maldivia: that's awesome! |
| 22:30.43 | foxlit | Means I don't have to clean up the mess I make with Tinfoil Hat links |
| 22:30.54 | foxlit | (though I wonder how well that'd work) |
| 22:32.05 | Wraanger | question - which event is fired when tracking is turned on / off ? |
| 22:32.10 | Maldivia | foxlit: well, I'll have to do some more testing... was fixing an addon, and made a typo, that's how I noticed :=) |
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| 22:47.37 | sag_ich_nicht | mhm |
| 22:47.44 | sag_ich_nicht | isn't divine shield supposed to dispell everything? |
| 22:47.49 | foxlit | no |
| 22:47.50 | sag_ich_nicht | because it doesn't dispell shadow flame :X |
| 22:48.04 | sag_ich_nicht | foxlit: everything besides cooldown stuff like recently bandaged, that is |
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| 22:48.37 | foxlit | They nerfed the effect of immunity shields on a lot of raiding effects |
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| 22:49.54 | sag_ich_nicht | LOL |
| 22:50.02 | sag_ich_nicht | nefarian is bugged |
| 22:50.03 | sag_ich_nicht | 09/23/07 00:49:35> Nefarian yells: Worthless $N! Your friends will join you soon enough! |
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| 22:54.28 | Tierrie | you know what sucks is being sick as fuck on a weekend |
| 22:54.34 | Tierrie | i caught a damn fever on friday |
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| 22:59.06 | Iriel | I find myself wanting to be sick lately so I can take time off work without a guilty conscience |
| 23:00.06 | Thelyna | being sick is overrated |
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| 23:17.06 | foxlit | c = a and a or nil; |
| 23:17.16 | foxlit | if a == nil, c == nil? |
| 23:17.21 | Iriel | yes |
| 23:17.37 | Iriel | and if a is not nil or false, then c is a |
| 23:17.51 | Iriel | the only case where a ~= c is where a = false |
| 23:18.14 | foxlit | I was mostly concerned about what happens in false or nil :) |
| 23:18.27 | Iriel | if a == false then c == nil |
| 23:18.29 | foxlit | lua> tostring(false or nil); |
| 23:18.32 | Iriel | if that's what you want then you're set |
| 23:18.45 | Iriel | false or nil returns false |
| 23:18.50 | Iriel | nil or false returns nil |
| 23:19.21 | Iriel | err, sorry, backwards |
| 23:19.32 | Iriel | false and nil returns false; false or nil returns nil |
| 23:19.45 | Iriel | nil and false returns nil; nil or false returns false |
| 23:20.27 | Iriel | (I just verified the latter in lua, and it's right) |
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| 23:21.05 | Iriel | since X and Y is roughly the same as if (X) then Y else X end |
| 23:21.14 | Iriel | and X or Y is roughly the same as if (X) then X else Y end |
| 23:21.14 | Tierrie_ | days like these make me want to stand out in the thunderstorm wearing a meal leia bikini and contemplate the existance of gods |
| 23:22.34 | foxlit | Thanks. |
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| 23:23.51 | alestane | WTF is up with that "Is this considered exploiting?" thread that blew up to seven pages since this morning? |
| 23:23.58 | sag_ich_nicht | idiotism |
| 23:24.03 | sag_ich_nicht | that's what's up |
| 23:24.09 | Kaydeethree | people feeding the troll |
| 23:24.10 | sag_ich_nicht | i guess slouken will close it once he sees it :X |
| 23:24.19 | alestane | Sort of the impression I got... |
| 23:25.01 | foxlit | eep, now I have to find that thread |
| 23:28.12 | sag_ich_nicht | bleeter |
| 23:33.06 | alestane | Yeah, that OP should definitely have picked a different race for his posts...one of those things where everyone keeps trying to present rational arguments, and it doesn't make a whit of difference because he just keep s adopting the "Well I'm right and disaggreeing with me makes ya'll stupid" defense. |
| 23:39.16 | |Jelly| | Hey now! I had fun feeding the troll. I laughed. I cried. ...I beat my face against my keyboard. It was all lols. |
| 23:39.51 | alestane | So far, I've read the first page, and the last page. I feel no need whatsoever to read the five intervening pages. |
| 23:40.31 | Cairenn | ditto |
| 23:40.40 | |Jelly| | If all you see is QQ, then no but if you see it as "lol...troll getting trolled" then go ahead. But in the end, it's a troll thread about a guy getting rolled on the damage meters and wanting to QQ about it. |
| 23:41.32 | alestane | The part I'm currently finding amusing is that he keeps protesting that we're abusing a flawed mechanic...Bliz's announcements for 2.3 suggest to me that the flawed mechanic is the one that prevents you from casting until your client decrees the spell finished. |
| 23:41.52 | alestane | Not that I really think anyone here needs convincing. |
| 23:42.07 | alestane | But I wanted to say it to someone and I don't feel like feeding the thread. |
| 23:42.16 | |Jelly| | lol |
| 23:44.00 | Cairenn | :) |
| 23:44.28 | Cairenn | this channel is great for telling off buttheads when you don't actually want to do it "publicly" |
| 23:45.10 | |Jelly| | :P |
| 23:45.35 | alestane | Or put up with their "nuh uh, you are" responses. |
| 23:46.22 | alestane | I've tried the "reason in the face of opinion" thing a couple of times and it's losing its charm. Dale Carnegie's famous book "How to Win Friends and Influence People" quotes a line about "A man convinced against his will/is of the same opinion still." |
| 23:46.28 | Kirov | Don't forget the ever popular "your mom" |
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| 23:48.15 | [dRaCo] | best answer ever is "no u". dont forget about that. |
| 23:48.49 | alestane | Whatever happened to "Your mother wears army boots", and why was it supposed to be an insult in the first place? |
| 23:49.32 | dolby-wowi | now a-days some mothers do wear army boots |
| 23:49.56 | alestane | I know at least one. |
| 23:50.00 | Kirov | even ones not in the army |
| 23:50.06 | dolby-wowi | lol |
| 23:50.56 | Kirov | anyonw know when UnitAffectingCombat is valid during the login now? |
| 23:51.40 | alestane | Should you ever be affecting combat before you've finished logging in? |
| 23:51.41 | |Jelly| | !c us burning legion auril |
| 23:51.44 | ThraeBot | |Jelly|: Auril, Level 65 Blood Elf Priest (15/41/0). 5315 HP; 7643 Mana; 210 mana regen; 38 mp5; 53 spell crit; 7 spell hit; 132 +spell dmg; 651 +heal; 4.82% dodge;[[ TBR: 661 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/272rvp ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/2sa42g ][ Updated: Sat Sep 22 20:05:54 2007 EST ]] |
| 23:52.17 | Kirov | alestane - well, not before PLAYER_LOGIN, or PLAYER_ENTERING_WORLD |
| 23:52.26 | foxlit | alestane: it's not so much you as the other people |
| 23:52.32 | foxlit | And the answer then would probably be no |
| 23:52.43 | Kirov | But a lot of things are valid now at the first PLAYER_AURAS_CHANGED (like ... amazingly, the player's aura's) that weren't before |
| 23:52.48 | foxlit | (since it takes a unit argument, and you probably don't know about those units until PLAYER_ENTERING_WORLD) |
| 23:52.58 | Iriel | Kirov: Certainly not before you've begun to enter the world |
| 23:53.01 | |Jelly| | !c us burning legion kilgar |
| 23:53.03 | ThraeBot | |Jelly|: Kilgar, Level 70 Blood Elf Paladin (5/12/44). 9517 HP; 5193 Mana; 83 mana regen; 2 mp5; 8951 Armour; 1228 AP; 191.000 Melee DPS; 24.14% melee crit; 23 melee hit; 118 +spell dmg/heal; 8.81% dodge; 5.00% block; 134 resilience;[[ TBR: 1508 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/2gjgub ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/33ye9x ][ Updated: Sat Sep 22 20:07:13 2007 EST ]] |
| 23:53.11 | foxlit | If you wanted to run it on self |
| 23:53.23 | foxlit | InLockdown() would probably tell you at any time |
| 23:53.29 | foxlit | er |
| 23:53.43 | foxlit | InCombatLockdown() |
| 23:53.58 | foxlit | [s |
| 23:53.59 | foxlit | an |
| 23:54.18 | foxlit | Wow, sometimes my typing fails spectacularly on this keyboard |
| 23:54.27 | Kirov | Iriel - basically I'm trying to check UnitIsDeadOrGhost and UnitAffectingCombat on the player, and I need to know when they're first valid. They're valid once PLAYER_ALIVE or PLAYER_DEAD happens, but those don't fire on reload |
| 23:55.05 | Kirov | foxlit - unfortunatly I need to check for gear changing. |
| 23:55.23 | Kirov | foxlit - You can't change your gear when you're dead, but you're also not in lockdown |
| 23:55.37 | foxlit | Wait until entering world? |
| 23:56.27 | Kirov | foxlit - that's what I'm asking |
| 23:56.50 | Kirov | Are they valid then |
| 23:56.54 | Iriel | Kirov: I'd have to test it too, that's a fringe case i haven't explored |
| 23:57.08 | Kirov | I have a lvl 8 wolf killing me right now |
| 23:57.13 | Kirov | Let see what happens when I log in |
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| 23:59.50 | Kirov | doh, wrong button |
