| 00:00.26 | Karrrrdeethree | yum... spaghetti and beer |
| 00:01.13 | [dRaCo] | spaghetti with beer sauce? |
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| 00:39.37 | Lunessa | yarrr |
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| 00:42.44 | ckkscurvy | yarr, Lunessa |
| 00:43.13 | Lunessa | I be likin' the cut o' yer jib me hearty! |
| 00:44.12 | Esamynn | ahoy there mateys! |
| 00:44.53 | GofG | Ahoy Lunessa, cckscurvy, Esamynn! |
| 00:45.16 | ckkscurvy | howdy, y'all |
| 00:45.20 | ckkscurvy | wait, wrong accent |
| 00:45.32 | ckkscurvy | yarr, shiver me timbers |
| 00:46.15 | GofG | Anyone interested in C&Cing a sig i made? |
| 00:48.29 | Lunessa | yar! |
| 00:48.42 | Lunessa | ckkscurvy: Anything come of the prospect in Austin? |
| 00:49.22 | ckkscurvy | nothing really, they just said to wait till mid-October |
| 00:49.39 | ckkscurvy | in the meantime, I posted my resume up on gamasutra and some SoCal company phoned me the other day |
| 00:49.47 | ckkscurvy | I had to fill out a programming test |
| 00:49.59 | WobWork | how'd you go? |
| 00:50.01 | ckkscurvy | "create a stack class in c++", "do a binary search", etc. |
| 00:50.18 | kergoth | boy, thats tough |
| 00:50.29 | mikma | GofG: http://www.kuvaton.com/kuvei/haxor.jpg |
| 00:50.29 | ckkscurvy | and part of me wonders how many other people who filled it out knew how to or whether to use const correctness |
| 00:50.33 | WobWork | You had to do it over the phone? =) |
| 00:50.40 | ckkscurvy | no, they emailed me the test |
| 00:50.49 | WobWork | hah, welcome to google answers =P |
| 00:50.55 | GofG | mikma: what did that have to do with me? :) |
| 00:50.57 | kergoth | hehe |
| 00:50.59 | ckkscurvy | kergoth: actually it didn't specifically say do a binary search, but that's what was implied. I'm sure some people did a simple O(n) search |
| 00:51.07 | Shirik | dear god, someone's hiring ckkscurvy |
| 00:51.07 | mikma | GofG: did you even read the text in |
| 00:51.12 | GofG | Yes |
| 00:51.16 | Shirik | tell me what company so I can be sure to never buy their stuff |
| 00:51.21 | ckkscurvy | Shirik: ... |
| 00:51.25 | Shirik | =D |
| 00:51.44 | kergoth | what i hate about phone programming interviews is the expectation that people will just know everything off the top of their head. i'm a decent coder, but without google i'm hurtin |
| 00:51.48 | kergoth | :P |
| 00:51.54 | JoshBorke | lol |
| 00:52.18 | kergoth | well, google or lots of quick references and reference books |
| 00:52.57 | Lunessa | yarrgh! This be what passes fer humor amongst pirate programmers. Maties! |
| 00:53.21 | WobWork | #include yarr.h |
| 00:54.02 | Lunessa | I keep making a call to load yarr.dll but it fails on every day but today. |
| 00:54.07 | kergoth | int status = matey->walk(THE_PLANK); |
| 00:54.29 | ckkscurvy | let's make it a bit more OO, kergoth |
| 00:55.01 | ckkscurvy | MateyFactory.Create("kergoth").DoAction(Actions.WALK, Items.THE_PLANK); |
| 00:55.06 | ckkscurvy | see, doesn't it just read better? |
| 00:55.36 | dreamss | kergoth, hehe u ever aplied to google? |
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| 00:55.54 | dreamss | i was like dude hold on let me google for the answer :P |
| 00:56.35 | kergoth | hahah |
| 00:58.38 | JoshBorke | lol |
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| 01:17.57 | Shirik | #01: 12.93% Kimina 207905 |
| 01:17.59 | Shirik | victory! |
| 01:18.04 | Shirik | (DamageMeters: <Healing Done> report on 8/25 sources:) |
| 01:21.24 | GofG | that is a lot of healing |
| 01:24.02 | Shirik | it's a lot for me :( |
| 01:24.04 | Shirik | single fight |
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| 01:44.56 | Thunder_Child | Guillotine, they still havent fixed it yet? |
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| 01:47.16 | Lunessa | roadrunner > comcast |
| 01:47.41 | Thunder_Child | i havent seen a dif since rr ate comcast (in my area) |
| 01:48.30 | Lunessa | comcast consumed rr locally. service has been horrid ever since. |
| 01:48.58 | Thunder_Child | hmm..i guess they just traded areas |
| 01:49.11 | Thunder_Child | like baseball cards |
| 01:49.37 | Guillotine | I've had to call 6 times in the past 3 days. they can't freakin get my internet working |
| 01:49.55 | Guillotine | it goes out every 10-15 mins and I have to go and unplug the cable modem, restart it, and plug it back in |
| 01:51.29 | Lunessa | Same here, and they are using shorter leases for IP addresses, so any place that I need to allow specific IPs require me to reset the access every 2 days instead fo every 4. |
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| 01:51.37 | Lunessa | Pissing me off generally. |
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| 02:02.22 | frop | nn |
| 02:02.33 | Legorol | someone help me out of my misery: i have suddenly forgotten an English word |
| 02:02.43 | Legorol | what is it called when you rearrange the letters in a word to form something else? |
| 02:02.47 | WobWork | anagram |
| 02:02.51 | Legorol | that's the one!!!! |
| 02:02.56 | WobWork | ^^ |
| 02:03.02 | Legorol | thank you WobWork, i'd been bashing my desk for 10 minutes |
| 02:03.08 | WobWork | no worries =) |
| 02:03.26 | WobWork | ... turbo? |
| 02:04.13 | Esamynn | Legorol: that sounds painful |
| 02:06.19 | Legorol | no, it was plain fu |
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| 02:24.08 | WobWork | Bah |
| 02:24.14 | WobWork | I have /. moderator points |
| 02:24.21 | WobWork | but nothing interesting to moderate =P |
| 02:24.34 | Lunessa | http://www.penny-arcade.com/comic |
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| 02:26.44 | Lunessa | yarrr... prepare to repel boarders! |
| 02:27.54 | Esamynn | look lively you scurvy dogs! |
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| 02:28.27 | Thunder_Child | hmm..first of all we can blame eu |
| 02:29.03 | Thunder_Child | second...."emergency rehubbing" if you stick your mind in the gutter that takes ona new meaning |
| 02:29.19 | Esamynn | ~lart Thunder_Child |
| 02:29.19 | purl | shoots Thunder_Child in the head |
| 02:29.56 | WobWork | ~lart Thunder_Child |
| 02:29.56 | purl | burns Thunder_Child to a crisp with a laser |
| 02:30.59 | Thunder_Child | ~blam eu |
| 02:31.00 | purl | ACTION blams findlay and eu in the head with a blam-o-tron |
| 02:31.21 | Thunder_Child | s/~blam eu/~blame eu/ |
| 02:31.26 | Thunder_Child | is what i really ment |
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| 02:33.24 | Nom- | http://forums.wow-europe.com/thread.html?topicId=941464185&sid=1 |
| 02:33.42 | Nom- | Not a bad idea, except we'd still need a baseline threat reduction |
| 02:33.55 | Nom- | That, and it only might fix ret, not prot |
| 02:34.00 | Thunder_Child | if it's not blameing eu it's not worthy |
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| 02:38.33 | Nom- | and of course the other problem with that suggestion is it'd make combat rather complicated |
| 02:38.36 | Nom- | more so than it is now |
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| 02:51.03 | trexen | hey all i ahve a quest |
| 02:51.13 | Karrrrdeethree | ask away |
| 02:51.14 | trexen | what is a good compliant mod for a druid |
| 02:51.23 | Esamynn | huh? |
| 02:51.30 | trexen | what a good mod for a druid |
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| 02:52.18 | Karrrrdeethree | http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/cat56.html |
| 02:52.56 | Karrrrdeethree | bah, not many options there. |
| 02:53.01 | Karrrrdeethree | what specifically are you looking for? |
| 02:53.09 | Karrrrdeethree | what part of the default UI are you trying to upgrade? |
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| 02:53.58 | trexen | well i want floating text with the damage on the target and me |
| 02:54.09 | trexen | also the action bar |
| 02:54.11 | trexen | the map |
| 02:54.15 | trexen | the buff bar |
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| 02:54.44 | Karrrrdeethree | have you tried the built-in floating combat text? enabled the additional action bars? |
| 02:55.02 | trexen | yes |
| 02:55.13 | |Jelly|Arrrrrrrr | Parrot -- Floating Damage ; Bartender3 -- Acrion Bars ; Simple Mini Map -- Map ; ElkBuffBars -- Buff Bars |
| 02:55.16 | trexen | the floating text just does the text on the damage i take not the npc |
| 02:55.41 | trexen | i tried ctmod but i cant seem to change the text it is huge |
| 02:55.52 | Karrrrdeethree | run the command /ct, click "buffmod" and change the settings |
| 02:57.00 | trexen | no the text even in the chat window is huge |
| 02:57.29 | Karrrrdeethree | right click on the tab in question, look for "font size" and choose a smaller one |
| 02:57.57 | trexen | do yall know a good Compilations to download? |
| 02:58.22 | |Jelly|Arrrrrrrr | The one you make yourself imo. Especially considering the questions you're asking. (Really not meaning to sound offensive) |
| 02:58.49 | trexen | it ok |
| 02:59.15 | Lunessa | yarrr... Karrrrdeethree is proactive. |
| 02:59.22 | Nom- | SCT + SCTD for combat text |
| 02:59.31 | Karrrrdeethree | he asked me to repost it, I went "ok" |
| 02:59.53 | |Jelly|Arrrrrrrr | Did I miss something. :( |
| 02:59.58 | Nom- | It's fully configurable, see my screenie for my config - http://standen.id.au/pics/WoWScrnShot_091207_235902.jpg |
| 03:00.14 | Nom- | You can change the combat text to display whatever way you like |
| 03:02.14 | Nom- | I wish it was easier to group up trash mobs in SMB |
| 03:02.15 | Nom- | SMV even |
| 03:02.27 | Nom- | By the time I get to the last mob that i want to aoe, the first 3-4 have reset |
| 03:02.34 | Nom- | :~( |
| 03:08.28 | buu | Pesky mobs. |
| 03:08.40 | buu | I hate when elites I'm terrain exploiting reset |
| 03:12.14 | Nom- | lol |
| 03:12.33 | Nom- | I hate elites that are immune to slowing effects |
| 03:12.49 | Nom- | Do you know how easy it is to solo an elite as a frost mage when it can be slowed? :P |
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| 03:15.08 | buu | Do you know how easy it is to solo an elite when it's fearable? |
| 03:15.22 | buu | =] |
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| 03:16.28 | Nom- | not as easy as it is for a frost mage acutally |
| 03:16.51 | Nom- | if you get a lucky string of crits you can actually kill them before they get in range |
| 03:19.13 | WobWork | My first attempt at kiting as a frost mage was that quest at Tabetha |
| 03:19.14 | WobWork | s |
| 03:19.26 | WobWork | I ran him around the house over and over |
| 03:19.28 | WobWork | til he died |
| 03:21.05 | Nom- | lol @ level 70 it's easy mode |
| 03:21.21 | Nom- | frostbolt x 4, frost nova, max range, ice lance, ice lance, frostbolt |
| 03:21.27 | Nom- | most likely will be dead before getting in range again |
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| 03:31.36 | bleetyarrrr | http://lolthulhu.com/ |
| 03:33.42 | WobWork | what's ice lance again? |
| 03:33.48 | Tem | HOLY FUCKING PISS |
| 03:33.54 | Tem | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-qTiYA1WiY8 |
| 03:34.02 | Karrrrdeethree | instant, weak (~300dmgish) frost attack, triple damage on frozen targets |
| 03:34.11 | Karrrrdeethree | frozen: frost nova, hunter frost traps, etc... |
| 03:34.25 | Shirik | huh... I just got this article from IEEE |
| 03:34.35 | Shirik | you guys might be interested in it, not sure if you can view it though, but here try |
| 03:35.08 | Shirik | http://www.spectrum.ieee.org/sep07/5548 |
| 03:35.44 | bleetyarrrr | Nom-: http://lolthulhu.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/06/arwedda-ur_sanity.png |
| 03:35.59 | WobWork | wow |
| 03:36.08 | WobWork | the ones of him as a tiny kid =) |
| 03:36.22 | bleetyarrrr | =) |
| 03:37.23 | Guillotine | whats the easiest way to make a scroll frame automatically size itself to a simplehtml text string? |
| 03:37.46 | Guillotine | e.g. if it is only 1 line, scroll won't be enabled, if its 1000 it'll go down that far |
| 03:38.17 | Corrodias | i updated my fubar today and it's just all screwy. :/ |
| 03:38.54 | Karrrrdeethree | update the reset of your ace mods, bunch of library changes have been happening this week |
| 03:38.55 | Corrodias | let's see if another update will unscrew it |
| 03:39.07 | Karrrrdeethree | s/reset/rest/ |
| 03:39.20 | Corrodias | i have all my libraries externalized and am using wowaceupdater, although remember that fubar is now on Rock |
| 03:39.35 | Karrrrdeethree | k, "ace", then |
| 03:39.36 | WobWork | Tem: very very cool |
| 03:39.49 | Corrodias | well, there has been an update to librockconfig, at least |
| 03:40.13 | Corrodias | maybe that'll fix this issue i was having |
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| 03:42.18 | Corrodias | nope |
| 03:49.44 | Karrrrdeethree | it's funny, I saw this 12ish hours ago and I'm still laughing every time it pops up somewhere: http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20070919-p2p-sites-ridicule-mediadefender-takedown-notices-in-wake-of-e-mail-leak.html |
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| 03:52.44 | art3mis | yeah its pretty good |
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| 04:01.33 | Tierrie | sup homies! |
| 04:01.45 | art3mis | http://www.gamespot.com/ps3/action/devilmaycry4/media.html?page=1&sid=6179147&autoplay=6179147&part=rss&tag=gs_all_games&subj=6179147 |
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| 04:04.58 | Tierrie | haha saw iv has a blood drive |
| 04:05.03 | Tierrie | that has to be the best promotion ever for a movie |
| 04:05.21 | Tierrie | "lots of blood in this movie, come give some of yours" |
| 04:07.15 | art3mis | ? |
| 04:07.41 | Rallion_ | woo woo, downloading Team Fortress 2 right now |
| 04:08.39 | Tierrie | saw 4 the movie, one of its promotional gimmicks is a blood drive |
| 04:08.49 | art3mis | whats 4? |
| 04:08.56 | Tierrie | the new saw movie |
| 04:09.00 | Tierrie | its up to saw iii now |
| 04:09.00 | art3mis | ahh |
| 04:09.04 | Tierrie | next one is saw iv |
| 04:11.28 | Tierrie | mmm ironman is shaping up to look totally awesome |
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| 04:12.55 | art3mis | i swore that iron man was black for the longest time |
| 04:13.05 | Tierrie | lol |
| 04:13.09 | Tierrie | i think war machine is |
| 04:13.30 | Tierrie | this "Dragon Wars" trailer is kind of crazy, its like gozilla x # of dragons |
| 04:13.43 | art3mis | someone said it was blowful |
| 04:13.50 | art3mis | like sci-fi quality bad |
| 04:13.57 | Tierrie | "lets make a godzilla movie" "fuck that! lets make it with 10000 godzillas and call them dragons" |
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| 04:14.10 | Tierrie | it looks somewhere between battlefield earth and doom in the quality of awesomeness! |
| 04:15.15 | art3mis | thats giving it fa to much credit |
| 04:15.17 | art3mis | far |
| 04:15.29 | art3mis | i was thinking more along the lines of dungeons and dragons 2 |
| 04:15.29 | Tierrie | well, in my book there's nothing below battlefield earth |
| 04:15.35 | Tierrie | there's no d&d 2 |
| 04:15.37 | Tierrie | just d&d 1 |
| 04:15.42 | Tierrie | is there? |
| 04:15.44 | art3mis | oh you'd like to think that |
| 04:15.47 | art3mis | yeah |
| 04:15.53 | art3mis | there is |
| 04:15.55 | Tierrie | holy shit |
| 04:16.00 | Tierrie | the first was so crappy |
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| 04:16.46 | Tierrie | wow i found it on wikipedia |
| 04:16.46 | Tierrie | how did they get the green light to make another! |
| 04:17.06 | Nom- | grr stupid d/c |
| 04:17.07 | Nom- | :( |
| 04:17.18 | art3mis | http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0406728/ |
| 04:17.31 | Tierrie | its like, uwe boll all over again |
| 04:17.33 | Nom- | Have to pretend to be an enhancement shaman it seems |
| 04:18.51 | Nom- | err elemental shaman i mean |
| 04:31.38 | *** join/#wowi-lounge grogwheel (n=chatzill@c-67-164-121-134.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) |
| 04:31.50 | |Jelly|Arrrrrrrr | grogwheel: lol@your most recent post |
| 04:32.19 | grogwheel | Yarrrrr! |
| 04:32.50 | AnduinLothar | what's the name of the big mana regen elixer? |
| 04:32.59 | grogwheel | Oh noes! My G7 Cordless Laser Mouse batteries are critical!!! ABANDON SHIP!!! |
| 04:33.39 | |Jelly|Arrrrrrrr | OH NOES! |
| 04:38.22 | Thunder_Child | AnduinLothar, dreamless sleep pot? |
| 04:38.30 | Thunder_Child | or just mana regen? |
| 04:38.31 | AnduinLothar | no the 1hr one |
| 04:38.35 | AnduinLothar | just mp5 |
| 04:38.38 | AnduinLothar | like 16 |
| 04:39.24 | Thunder_Child | is better http://www.wowhead.com/?item=22853 |
| 04:39.34 | AnduinLothar | no, that's worse |
| 04:39.56 | AnduinLothar | "Counts as both a Battle and Guardian elixir. " |
| 04:40.10 | AnduinLothar | much rather use 2 pots |
| 04:40.11 | Shirik | AnduinLothar: mageblood |
| 04:40.11 | Thunder_Child | http://www.wowhead.com/?item=22840 |
| 04:40.13 | Shirik | major mageblood |
| 04:40.16 | Shirik | something like that |
| 04:40.20 | Thunder_Child | ya |
| 04:40.22 | Thunder_Child | i linked it |
| 04:40.40 | Shirik | yeah, I wish I could make that one :( |
| 04:41.02 | AnduinLothar | thx |
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| 04:41.45 | AnduinLothar | only upside on the flask is that it persists through death. |
| 04:41.55 | Shirik | meh |
| 04:41.56 | Shirik | big deal |
| 04:42.01 | AnduinLothar | so it's cheeper, but not as effective as having 2 pots |
| 04:42.11 | Shirik | not cheaper for me :P |
| 04:42.13 | Shirik | this stuff is cheap |
| 04:42.23 | Shirik | and flasks I can't make doubles |
| 04:42.44 | AnduinLothar | depends on how much you wipe i spose |
| 04:42.59 | Shirik | heh |
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| 04:46.23 | Shirik|zZz | http://www.guardianhq.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=13451 |
| 04:46.26 | Shirik|zZz | and with that, good night |
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| 04:52.09 | Shirik|zZz | AHAHAHAH |
| 04:52.10 | Shirik|zZz | "STICKIES .... STICKIES WTF R STICKIES " |
| 04:52.14 | Shirik|zZz | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=1778579045&sid=1 |
| 04:52.16 | Shirik|zZz | this thread so wins |
| 04:52.32 | Shirik|zZz | |Jelly|Arrrrrrrr - That's you, I salute you |
| 04:52.42 | |Jelly|Arrrrrrrr | Eh? |
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| 04:54.19 | JunkHead-Work | Morning |
| 04:56.43 | Shirik|zZz | ~fail wikipedia |
| 04:56.44 | purl | wikipedia: Fail. |
| 04:57.01 | Shirik|zZz | Tried to show someone what the "Sorcerer's Apprentice" problem is.... all it shows me is the poem |
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| 05:03.38 | grogwheel | anyone know if there's a hard limit to the number of arguments you can pass to a vararg function? |
| 05:03.53 | Shirik|zZz | yes |
| 05:03.58 | Shirik|zZz | something like 2^15 |
| 05:04.00 | Shirik|zZz | anything more will crash |
| 05:04.13 | grogwheel | lua> 2^15 |
| 05:04.13 | cladbot | grogwheel: 32768 |
| 05:04.25 | Shirik|zZz | I'd double-check that statement |
| 05:05.06 | grogwheel | hmm.... I can't think of a way to test it without taking way too long to process... |
| 05:06.07 | grogwheel | I let a recursive function adding an argument at each level (using tail call so there wouldn't be stack overflow) run for almost a minute on its way up to 1 million |
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| 05:06.30 | Shirik|zZz | > =loadstring(s) |
| 05:06.30 | Shirik|zZz | nil [string "foo(1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1 |
| 05:06.30 | Shirik|zZz | ..."]:1: function or expression too complex near '1' |
| 05:06.32 | grogwheel | suppose i could just print the number as it goes and let it keep on running till it crashes |
| 05:06.36 | Shirik|zZz | they must have fixed it |
| 05:06.44 | Shirik|zZz | but point is that you do have a limit |
| 05:07.24 | Shirik|zZz | ok |
| 05:07.24 | Shirik|zZz | got it |
| 05:07.29 | Shirik|zZz | your limit is 249 |
| 05:07.33 | grogwheel | no |
| 05:07.40 | grogwheel | that would be stack overflow |
| 05:07.44 | Shirik|zZz | 248 |
| 05:07.44 | Shirik|zZz | stdin:3: attempt to call a nil value |
| 05:07.52 | grogwheel | with tail recursion you don't get stack overflow |
| 05:07.52 | Shirik|zZz | error code is "function or expression too complex" |
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| 05:07.56 | grogwheel | and can go much higher |
| 05:08.02 | Shirik|zZz | want me to show you the code I used? |
| 05:08.08 | Shirik|zZz | There should be zero reason for a stack overflow |
| 05:08.15 | grogwheel | sure :P |
| 05:08.32 | grogwheel | but i know you're wrong... i successfully tested up to 10,000 |
| 05:08.38 | grogwheel | iirc... |
| 05:08.50 | Iriel | Did you confirm you had that many args? |
| 05:08.55 | Iriel | It could've just been truncating |
| 05:09.10 | grogwheel | i'm going to test again now |
| 05:10.10 | Shirik|zZz | http://wowi.pastey.net/74122 |
| 05:10.53 | grogwheel | Shirik|zZz: i think you're getting a compiler error. |
| 05:11.08 | grogwheel | which i'm not interested in atm |
| 05:11.17 | Cidan | Shirik|zZz, pay attention nao plz |
| 05:11.21 | Shirik|zZz | as opposed to... |
| 05:11.30 | Shirik|zZz | something like table.unpack? |
| 05:11.33 | grogwheel | this: http://wowi.pastey.net/74123 |
| 05:12.26 | Shirik|zZz | that's interesting that they would have different limits |
| 05:12.48 | grogwheel | GoDeep(100000) works fine... |
| 05:12.56 | Shirik|zZz | I would also point out that there is no degradation in speed |
| 05:12.59 | Shirik|zZz | it appears to be O(1) |
| 05:13.09 | Shirik|zZz | which is extremely illogical |
| 05:13.16 | grogwheel | i saw a degredation in speed |
| 05:13.23 | grogwheel | +correct spelling |
| 05:13.31 | Shirik|zZz | maybe my computer's too fast >< |
| 05:13.39 | grogwheel | <---- c2d e6600 |
| 05:13.57 | Shirik|zZz | I also just tested 2^16 successfully |
| 05:14.12 | Iriel | remember that args are on the stack, so tailcalls can be very very fast |
| 05:14.26 | grogwheel | Shirik|zZz: 100,000 > 2^16 :P |
| 05:14.31 | Shirik|zZz | is it? |
| 05:14.34 | grogwheel | which is prob why i saw a slowdown |
| 05:14.35 | Shirik|zZz | yes it is |
| 05:15.08 | krka | Iriel: in a tailcall, you still have to move around the args potentially |
| 05:15.23 | grogwheel | krka: so do you know the answer to my question? :P |
| 05:15.31 | krka | what was the question? |
| 05:15.42 | grogwheel | what's the limit on the number of args to a vararg? |
| 05:15.43 | Shirik|zZz | grogwheel: I bet I can make it break |
| 05:15.55 | Iriel | krka: True |
| 05:15.58 | grogwheel | more specifically is there some non-arbitrary limit? |
| 05:16.07 | Iriel | In theory the number of args is 'when you run out of stack space' |
| 05:16.12 | grogwheel | s/non-arbitrary/well-defined/ |
| 05:16.16 | krka | good question |
| 05:16.19 | Iriel | let me check there's no bytecode limitation i'm unaware of |
| 05:17.20 | krka | no real limit i think |
| 05:17.27 | krka | i think iriel is correct |
| 05:18.20 | grogwheel | so it's basically sizeof(whatever data type they use to specify the number of arguments) which is probably much larger than the available ram on most computers... |
| 05:18.37 | Iriel | it's basically when you run out of useful address space (or whatever you can reference with your chosen set of base datatype sizes) |
| 05:18.40 | Shirik|zZz | I just am amused that the compilerenforces a restriction |
| 05:18.43 | Shirik|zZz | but the language doesn't |
| 05:18.46 | krka | basically, it's a "don't worry about it"-limit |
| 05:18.51 | krka | Shirik|zZz: there's a good reason for that |
| 05:18.58 | krka | the compiler needs to remember all the arg-names |
| 05:19.07 | krka | and it's a one pass compiler |
| 05:19.08 | grogwheel | not if it's vararg |
| 05:19.13 | krka | correct |
| 05:19.24 | Shirik|zZz | I... don't see your points |
| 05:19.33 | Shirik|zZz | 14(0111:0811:2614) 14(11Shirik|zZz14) http://wowi.pastey.net/74122 |
| 05:19.37 | Shirik|zZz | fails at approx 250 |
| 05:19.39 | Iriel | 2^31 on most compilers |
| 05:20.04 | Iriel | (the theoretical arg limit, beyond which they couldn't be addressed) |
| 05:20.28 | krka | the compiler has a fixed limit of named arguments |
| 05:20.37 | krka | because they need to be stored in a special datatype |
| 05:21.05 | krka | it's an implementation issue, not a language ideology issue |
| 05:21.15 | krka | but seriously... when do you need more than 200 named arguments? :) |
| 05:21.25 | Shirik|zZz | but... they aren't named |
| 05:21.53 | krka | function call or function definition? |
| 05:22.02 | Shirik|zZz | did you look at the code? |
| 05:22.21 | grogwheel | perhaps because it's global it can't know that it's vararg... |
| 05:22.36 | grogwheel | so it assumes it's not |
| 05:22.47 | grogwheel | or more likely it makes that assumption in all cases |
| 05:23.20 | grogwheel | the first three "it's" referring to foo |
| 05:24.42 | grogwheel | Reworded: Since Lua can't know foo is a vararg function when it's compiling in the loadstring, it has to assume that foo uses named parameters. |
| 05:25.15 | grogwheel | and may make that assumption in most cases |
| 05:27.38 | grogwheel | it does... even as a local called manually with hundreds of args it gives a 'too complex' error |
| 05:31.31 | |Jelly| | !c us burning legion norine |
| 05:31.33 | ThraeBot | |Jelly|: Norine, Level 70 Blood Elf Paladin (42/19/0). 8067 HP; 10158 Mana; 170 mana regen; 89 mp5; 14787 Armour; 72.500 Melee DPS; 3.81% melee crit; 143 spell crit; 174 +spell dmg; 1673 +heal; 3.81% dodge; 5.00% block; 91 resilience;[[ TBR: 1282 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/2hk8ey ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/3ctvjx ][ Updated: Thu Sep 20 01:45:18 2007 EST ]] |
| 05:34.43 | Nom- | ! us Stormscale Innominata |
| 05:34.44 | Nom- | :D |
| 05:34.48 | Nom- | !c us Stormscale Innominata |
| 05:34.50 | ThraeBot | Nom-: Innominata, Level 70 Blood Elf Paladin (13/0/48). 8307 HP; 4893 Mana; 81 mana regen; 8517 Armour; 1562 AP; 245.300 Melee DPS; 23.33% melee crit; 111 melee hit; 108 +spell dmg/heal; 9.09% dodge; 5.00% block;[[ TBR: 1191 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/22fj3l ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/2up98k ][ Updated: Thu Sep 20 01:48:35 2007 EST ]] |
| 05:36.03 | Nom- | I'm getting there... need lots more AP |
| 05:36.18 | Nom- | and more hitpoints for pvp of course |
| 05:36.19 | |Jelly| | lewlret |
| 05:37.53 | Nom- | yup |
| 05:38.00 | Nom- | We're taking a week of raiding |
| 05:38.05 | Nom- | So I specced ret to solo and pvp |
| 05:40.17 | Guillotine | anybody know how to make a new folder in VBA? |
| 05:40.22 | Guillotine | if it doesn't already exist |
| 05:41.03 | Iriel | Pop up a misspelled dialog box asking the user to create it? |
| 05:43.31 | Iriel | That seems to be a favored windows way of doing things sometimes 8-) |
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| 05:52.26 | Shirik|zZz | Guillotine: Aren't the APIs the same? |
| 05:52.43 | Shirik|zZz | like Win32 C++ and VB |
| 05:52.52 | Guillotine | Shirik: not quite, but I figured it out |
| 05:52.58 | Shirik|zZz | okies |
| 06:05.33 | krka | Shirik|zZz: the compiler cant make function calls with more than 250 real parameters |
| 06:07.08 | krka | it can handle more if the last argument is ... or a function call |
| 06:08.24 | Shirik|zZz | where exactly is it putting all these parameters |
| 06:08.39 | Shirik|zZz | every compiler I've known has always pushed them onto the stack. How does the interpreter handle it? |
| 06:08.49 | Iriel | there's no interpreter in lua |
| 06:08.53 | |Jelly|zZz | !c us burning legion palewoos |
| 06:08.53 | Iriel | it's VM based, and they're stack-passed |
| 06:08.53 | ThraeBot | |Jelly|zZz: palewoos is not the character you are looking for! |
| 06:09.00 | |Jelly|zZz | You're right! |
| 06:09.00 | Shirik|zZz | ok where does the VM put them |
| 06:09.08 | |Jelly|zZz | !c us burning legion palewood |
| 06:09.09 | WobWork | Behind the couch |
| 06:09.10 | Shirik|zZz | it has space for 2^16+ parameters on the stack? |
| 06:09.10 | ThraeBot | |Jelly|zZz: Palewood, Level 70 Blood Elf Paladin (10/43/8). 12217 HP; 3978 Mana; 133 mana regen; 41 mp5; 12490 Armour; 690 AP; 136.800 Melee DPS; 4.21% melee crit; 17 melee hit; 15 +spell dmg/heal; 297 defense; 13.66% dodge; 13.84% block;[[ TBR: 657 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/29l6f9 ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/34utk8 ][ Updated: Thu Sep 20 02:22:55 2007 EST ]] |
| 06:09.10 | Iriel | though 'the stack' in lua is in allocated memory |
| 06:09.13 | Iriel | not the traditional stack |
| 06:09.18 | Shirik|zZz | right |
| 06:09.27 | Iriel | lua manages its stack as a collectable object just like everything else |
| 06:09.30 | WobWork | ~2^16 |
| 06:09.30 | purl | 2^16 is, like, 65536 :-)) |
| 06:09.50 | Shirik|zZz | well lua doesn't seem to like putting many functions on the stack |
| 06:09.59 | Shirik|zZz | though you need a new stack frame for each one |
| 06:10.07 | Shirik|zZz | but still it can't be THAT big of a difference |
| 06:10.13 | Iriel | it depends how big they are |
| 06:10.13 | Iriel | t |
| 06:10.20 | krka | i am not sure you're seeing the difference between running and compiling |
| 06:10.29 | Iriel | all the local variables go on the stack also |
| 06:10.29 | Shirik|zZz | I see that difference just fine |
| 06:10.30 | krka | there are different limits |
| 06:10.40 | Shirik|zZz | but what I'm not seeing is where the heck it's putting all this stuff |
| 06:10.44 | krka | Iriel: or as upvalues |
| 06:10.44 | Shirik|zZz | obviously it has to go somewhere |
| 06:10.47 | Iriel | and then there IS a C-stack hit for each nested call |
| 06:11.08 | Iriel | krka: I was using 'local variables' differentiated from 'upvalues' |
| 06:11.15 | Shirik|zZz | Iriel: Then the question becomes is it the C stack overflowing if you have an infinitely recursive function? |
| 06:11.20 | Iriel | Shirik|zZz: yes |
| 06:11.21 | Shirik|zZz | or Lua's stack |
| 06:11.24 | Shirik|zZz | ok that makes a little more sense |
| 06:11.25 | Iriel | Shirik|zZz: Unless you tailcall it |
| 06:11.44 | Iriel | Shirik|zZz: well, actually the real answer is I think 'it depends' |
| 06:12.13 | Shirik|zZz | Right but at least I can assume that the Lua stack can handle a much larger amount of data and thus hold these 2^16+ numbers that we were passing earlier |
| 06:12.45 | Iriel | Lua has a protection mechanism to do a stack overflow |
| 06:12.55 | Shirik|zZz | in most cases :P |
| 06:12.58 | Iriel | luaconf.h:@@ LUAI_MAXCALLS limits the number of nested calls. |
| 06:12.58 | Iriel | luaconf.h:#define LUAI_MAXCALLS 2000 |
| 06:13.20 | Shirik|zZz | it's "supposed" to |
| 06:14.34 | Iriel | There's also... |
| 06:14.35 | Iriel | @@ LUAI_MAXCSTACK limits the number of Lua stack slots that a C function |
| 06:14.35 | Iriel | @* can use. |
| 06:14.35 | Iriel | ** CHANGE it if you need lots of (Lua) stack space for your C |
| 06:14.36 | Iriel | ** functions. This limit is arbitrary; its only purpose is to stop C |
| 06:14.36 | Iriel | ** functions to consume unlimited stack space. |
| 06:14.38 | Iriel | */ |
| 06:14.40 | Iriel | #define LUAI_MAXCSTACK 2048 |
| 06:14.56 | Shirik|zZz | nice |
| 06:15.13 | Shirik|zZz | now if only we could get the source code to WoW |
| 06:15.16 | Shirik|zZz | we can change it |
| 06:15.30 | Iriel | sleep time for me.. night all |
| 06:15.33 | Shirik|zZz | me too |
| 06:15.34 | krka | good night |
| 06:15.35 | Shirik|zZz | night :) |
| 06:15.38 | grogwheel | nn |
| 06:17.53 | Cidan | anyone know the default font name and file location? |
| 06:18.28 | Cidan | no one? |
| 06:19.09 | Shirik|zZz | there's a few |
| 06:19.17 | Cidan | the one on GameFontNormal |
| 06:19.25 | Shirik|zZz | ChatFontNormal for example |
| 06:19.30 | Shirik|zZz | oh |
| 06:19.32 | Shirik|zZz | name and file location |
| 06:19.33 | Shirik|zZz | oops |
| 06:20.39 | Shirik|zZz | anyway, seriously, night |
| 06:20.52 | Cidan | yeah |
| 06:20.53 | Cidan | me too |
| 06:20.54 | nevcairiel | <Font name="GameFontNormal" inherits="MasterFont" font="Fonts\FRIZQT__.TTF" virtual="true"> |
| 06:20.56 | nevcairiel | there |
| 06:20.56 | Cidan | class will suck tomorrow |
| 06:21.44 | Cidan | thx |
| 06:22.05 | nevcairiel | check Fonts.xml in FramXML for all fonts :) |
| 06:22.12 | Cidan | neat |
| 06:22.17 | art3mis | thats just crazy talk |
| 06:22.32 | art3mis | and there are no oil filters in wow |
| 06:22.39 | art3mis | it's FrameXML ;P |
| 06:23.09 | nevcairiel | too early for e's |
| 06:23.18 | art3mis | oh thats true |
| 06:23.21 | nevcairiel | just woke up |
| 06:23.49 | art3mis | damn foreigners waking up and stealing all our bandwidth ;P |
| 06:24.01 | WobWork | <.< |
| 06:24.02 | WobWork | >.> |
| 06:24.05 | Cidan | there we go, fixed. |
| 06:24.07 | Cidan | Thanks much |
| 06:24.12 | WobWork | I'm in ur pipez stealin ur interwebs |
| 06:24.26 | art3mis | wob you need the dun dun duuuuunnnnnnnnn if yer gonna make shifty eyes |
| 06:25.00 | WobWork | dun dun duuuuunnnnnnnnn |
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| 06:34.45 | Corrodias | some kind of noncooperation between derassisthelper and fubar :( |
| 06:34.56 | Corrodias | is fubar trying to examine keybindings? |
| 06:35.27 | sarrrg_ich_nicht | yarrr, TLAP day is over, arrrr :( |
| 06:36.07 | JunkHead-Work | I didn't even know about that until about an hour ago. |
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| 06:39.47 | Corrodias | and it's weird. on my hunter, if i drag a plugin to the right side, it changes its position to "right", but not with the other characters. o.o |
| 06:42.26 | Corrodias | i may have been hallucinating |
| 06:43.26 | Nom- | OMG LOL |
| 06:43.31 | Corrodias | what it doesn't explan is why all the plugins keep resetting their positions on each load |
| 06:43.34 | Nom- | someone posted a reckoning bomb solo kill of kazzak |
| 06:43.37 | Nom- | way back when |
| 06:43.44 | Nom- | Just saw it for the first time ever |
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| 06:45.02 | art3mis | linky |
| 06:45.11 | art3mis | i dont think ive seen that |
| 06:45.26 | Nom- | erence to our guild, as that was our guild Motto. You can see the video in it's proper form by at |
| 06:45.30 | Nom- | oops |
| 06:45.35 | Nom- | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TqPQ4SNmx2c |
| 06:45.52 | Nom- | reckoning bomb, kazzak goes down in about 4 hits |
| 06:46.59 | Maldivia | morn |
| 06:50.38 | art3mis | whats the reckoning bomb? |
| 06:51.16 | Tierrie | paladin stores up reckoning charges by fighting some low level mob |
| 06:51.28 | Tierrie | then goes to an end game boss and uses the still |
| 06:51.36 | Tierrie | dealing upwards of 3000000 attacks in 1 second |
| 06:51.40 | Tierrie | killing the boss instantly |
| 06:51.45 | Tierrie | skill i mean |
| 06:51.52 | Tierrie | or you can use it on players |
| 06:51.55 | Tierrie | whatever |
| 06:51.57 | art3mis | ooo i didnt know you could store em |
| 06:52.00 | Corrodias | doesn't work any more |
| 06:52.01 | Tierrie | not anymore |
| 06:52.03 | Tierrie | its been fixed |
| 06:52.07 | art3mis | boo |
| 06:52.09 | Corrodias | stupid blizzard |
| 06:52.23 | Corrodias | "paladin solos kazzak" and suddenly they think they have to nerf it |
| 06:52.39 | Corrodias | the correct response is to buff druids to be able to solo naxx |
| 06:52.45 | Tierrie | haha |
| 06:52.49 | art3mis | heh |
| 06:53.09 | Tierrie | on a tangent, i hate reading articles like "this professor gets pancreatic cancer, has a 99% mortality rate and is facing his death with dignity" |
| 06:53.13 | art3mis | i just want priests buffed to solo faction bosses |
| 06:53.20 | Tierrie | because i don't want to get anything like that |
| 06:53.28 | Tierrie | and i will have no dignity if it happens to me |
| 06:53.51 | art3mis | diognity is for people with no friends an nothing to do |
| 06:54.26 | art3mis | my wife however is morally opposed to having me mummified and automated to give out candy on helloween when i die |
| 06:54.56 | *** join/#wowi-lounge Kalroth (n=kalroth@0x573f1066.hjnqu1.broadband.tele.dk) |
| 06:56.24 | WobWork | "TRICK OR TR... YARARARRARAGAGAGH!" |
| 06:56.27 | Thunder_Child | art3mis, your wife needs to losen up |
| 06:57.05 | Kalroth | errr |
| 06:58.02 | art3mis | i know eh? |
| 06:58.22 | art3mis | how would any man NOT want to be a helloween display scaring kids longs past his life time |
| 06:59.21 | art3mis | i think its all the other days of hearing "braaaaaaaaaiiiiiiiiiiiiinnnnnnnnssss" when her alzheimers kicks in and she cant remember how to shut it off |
| 07:00.24 | Thunder_Child | and the cool part is you could even be eating your own brains |
| 07:01.29 | Corrodias | mpw tjat o |
| 07:01.42 | WobWork | Corrodias: Indede. |
| 07:01.46 | Corrodias | ... er, never mind that, missed my keyboard |
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| 07:04.12 | Corrodias | i need to think of rearranging my fubar plugins. they're just too randomly arranged here. |
| 07:04.26 | WobWork | I have my config plugins offscreen |
| 07:05.02 | WobWork | Dash ftw |
| 07:05.46 | art3mis | http://www.gothi.ca/Stuff/hre.jpg |
| 07:05.54 | art3mis | he original with yer fubars |
| 07:05.57 | art3mis | be |
| 07:06.39 | Corrodias | interesting |
| 07:07.51 | art3mis | 725 downlaods for hkui |
| 07:07.56 | art3mis | woooooo |
| 07:08.17 | art3mis | i should win some sort of exploding nailgun bomb for 1k downloads ;P |
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| 07:13.59 | Nom- | one of these days |
| 07:13.59 | ScytheBlade1 | !points 1378 |
| 07:14.00 | Xinhuan | 1378 arena points require 2628(5s), INF(3s) and INF(2s) team rating. |
| 07:14.08 | ScytheBlade1 | !ratinf 1378 |
| 07:14.11 | ScytheBlade1 | !rating 1378 |
| 07:14.12 | Xinhuan | 1378 rating will give 330(5s), 264(3s) and 231(2s) arena points. (Use !points for inverse calc) |
| 07:14.57 | Nom- | man |
| 07:15.03 | Nom- | wtb 2628 5v5 rating :D |
| 07:15.07 | ScytheBlade1 | yarly |
| 07:15.50 | Nom- | Hopefully the new arena calculations are a little more generous in 2.2 |
| 07:16.05 | Nom- | I'm looking forward to getting more arena gear... i hate the fact that i have to PvP to get shockadin gear :( |
| 07:24.57 | ScytheBlade1 | !rating 1391 |
| 07:24.57 | Xinhuan | 1391 rating will give 335(5s), 268(3s) and 234(2s) arena points. (Use !points for inverse calc) |
| 07:28.53 | Thunder_Child | !rating 10000000000000000000000 |
| 07:28.54 | Xinhuan | 10000000000000000000000 rating will give 0(5s), 0(3s) and 0(2s) arena points. (Use !points for inverse calc) |
| 07:29.32 | Thunder_Child | !point 10000000000000000000000 |
| 07:29.36 | Thunder_Child | !points 10000000000000000000000 |
| 07:29.37 | Xinhuan | You cannot get more than 1426 arena points per week (5v5 points cap). |
| 07:29.54 | Thunder_Child | !rating -1000000000 |
| 07:29.54 | Xinhuan | -1000000000 rating will give 0(5s), 0(3s) and 0(2s) arena points. (Use !points for inverse calc) |
| 07:30.05 | Thunder_Child | !points `100000000000000 |
| 07:30.05 | Xinhuan | `100000000000000 is not a number, idiot. |
| 07:30.11 | Thunder_Child | !points -100000000000000 |
| 07:30.11 | Xinhuan | You cannot get less than 0 arena points per week. |
| 07:30.12 | ScytheBlade1 | gg |
| 07:30.15 | Thunder_Child | indeed |
| 07:30.45 | Thunder_Child | !points 1*1 |
| 07:30.46 | Xinhuan | 1*1 is not a number, idiot. |
| 07:31.09 | Thunder_Child | !points 0 |
| 07:31.09 | Xinhuan | 0 arena points require 511(5s), 511(3s) and 511(2s) team rating. |
| 07:31.19 | Thunder_Child | heh, i broke it |
| 07:31.25 | Thunder_Child | took me long enough |
| 07:31.46 | Thunder_Child | !rating 0 |
| 07:31.46 | Xinhuan | 0 rating will give 0(5s), 0(3s) and 0(2s) arena points. (Use !points for inverse calc) |
| 07:32.13 | Thunder_Child | !rating -0 |
| 07:32.14 | Xinhuan | -0 rating will give 0(5s), 0(3s) and 0(2s) arena points. (Use !points for inverse calc) |
| 07:32.20 | Thunder_Child | !points -0 |
| 07:32.20 | Xinhuan | -0 arena points require 511(5s), 511(3s) and 511(2s) team rating. |
| 07:32.41 | Thunder_Child | i really really enjoy breaking things |
| 07:32.57 | Thunder_Child | ~lart Xinhuan |
| 07:32.57 | purl | takes large quantities of Krispy Kream donuts and stuffs them one after another down Xinhuan's throat until Xinhuan puts on 150lbs |
| 07:33.11 | Xinhuan | shh, don't make me disable it |
| 07:33.22 | Thunder_Child | then fix it :) |
| 07:33.25 | Xinhuan | in fact, maybe i should |
| 07:34.13 | Xinhuan | if you want a laugh, !points eight will generate "eight is not a number, idiot" :) |
| 07:34.42 | Thunder_Child | any writen out number or only "eight"? |
| 07:34.48 | Xinhuan | any written number ;p |
| 07:34.53 | Thunder_Child | ah, yea |
| 07:35.05 | Thunder_Child | !points 2.3 |
| 07:35.05 | Xinhuan | 2.3 arena points require 517(5s), 519(3s) and 520(2s) team rating. |
| 07:35.44 | Thunder_Child | dosent seem to like that either |
| 07:35.54 | Thunder_Child | !points 2/3 |
| 07:35.54 | Xinhuan | 2/3 is not a number, idiot. |
| 07:35.59 | Thunder_Child | yes it is! |
| 07:36.05 | Thunder_Child | just not a whole one |
| 07:38.58 | krka | !points 10 |
| 07:38.59 | Xinhuan | 10 arena points require 537(5s), 544(3s) and 549(2s) team rating. |
| 07:39.08 | krka | !points NaN |
| 07:39.08 | Xinhuan | NaN is not a number, idiot. |
| 07:39.17 | krka | !points 0 |
| 07:39.17 | Xinhuan | 0 arena points require 511(5s), 511(3s) and 511(2s) team rating. |
| 07:39.21 | krka | !points -100 |
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| 07:42.28 | krka | !points 0 |
| 07:42.28 | Xinhuan | 0 arena points require 511(5s), 511(3s) and 511(2s) team rating. |
| 07:42.34 | krka | !points -100000000000000000 |
| 07:42.35 | Xinhuan | You cannot get less than 0 arena points per week. |
| 07:42.50 | krka | !points 1000000000000000000000000000000000000000 |
| 07:42.51 | Xinhuan | You cannot get more than 1426 arena points per week (5v5 points cap). |
| 07:43.26 | nevcairiel | heh |
| 07:44.54 | krka | !points |
| 07:44.54 | Xinhuan | is not a number, idiot. |
| 07:45.10 | krka | !points . |
| 07:45.11 | Xinhuan | . is not a number, idiot. |
| 07:49.24 | krka | !points my iq |
| 07:49.24 | Xinhuan | my is not a number, idiot. |
| 07:49.38 | krka | !points one |
| 07:49.39 | Xinhuan | one is not a number, idiot. |
| 07:51.28 | Kalroth | >< |
| 07:52.02 | krka | !points kalroth |
| 07:52.03 | Xinhuan | kalroth is not a number, idiot. |
| 07:53.11 | Kalroth | !points I got nude pictures of krka and he gave me his phonenumber, but what he wrote on the underwear |
| 07:53.11 | Xinhuan | I is not a number, idiot. |
| 07:53.14 | Kalroth | aww |
| 07:53.23 | Kalroth | it only picks one word, weak! |
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| 08:16.25 | Wobin_ | arghh! |
| 08:16.34 | Wobin_ | I have that damn LazyTown pirate song stuck in my head |
| 08:17.27 | Wobin_ | !points 1426 |
| 08:17.28 | Xinhuan | 1426 arena points require 3576(5s), INF(3s) and INF(2s) team rating. |
| 08:17.35 | Wobin_ | woot |
| 08:17.36 | Wobin_ | infinite |
| 08:23.15 | bleeter | Wobin_: http://www.smh.com.au/news/national/we-cracked-us-code-beazley/2007/09/20/1189881668071.html |
| 08:23.44 | bleeter | Wobin_: and let this be a lesson to you.. if you have a secret code that'd be useful to your friends, hand it over otherwise your friend will probably crack it ;) |
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| 08:34.27 | norgs | No, you conunterspy on your friends cracking your codes, and then just before they manage it, change them cause if your friends can crack it, you're enemies have probably already done it a week ago. |
| 08:36.06 | sag_ich_nicht | anyone here with a recent ATI driver installed under windows? |
| 08:36.25 | sag_ich_nicht | i need the version of ati2dvag.dll of the latest catalyst |
| 08:36.59 | bleeter | norgs: yeah, that's what sane folks would do... but Bomber's line 'we got another radar that could identify [enemy planes].' would indicate the Americans didn't ;) |
| 08:37.43 | norgs | i hope you're not calling americans insane, bleeter... |
| 08:38.51 | bleeter | sag_ich_nicht: um... why not just d/l 'latest' drivers? |
| 08:41.06 | bleeter | norgs: probably not the citizens... the defense/intelligence services... maybe ;) |
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| 08:41.18 | bleeter | but then that's common to most nations |
| 08:41.58 | sag_ich_nicht | bleeter: because i'm an nvidia user, i need it to verify the driver version of a user |
| 08:52.00 | bleeter | sag_ich_nicht: still working on it, but fwiw the latest drivers fix the following WoW issues -> http://support.ati.com/ics/support/default.asp?deptID=894&task=knowledge&questionID=28807 |
| 08:54.45 | sag_ich_nicht | that's not the problem :X |
| 08:54.50 | sag_ich_nicht | but thanks anyway |
| 09:02.02 | bleeter | meh, I give up.. stupid Win32 install shield crap |
| 09:04.02 | sag_ich_nicht | yes. |
| 09:04.16 | sag_ich_nicht | i didn't even bother with it because of that, which is why i asked here. |
| 09:04.43 | bleeter | I thought i5/i6cmp might've helped... grrr |
| 09:05.02 | sag_ich_nicht | what. |
| 09:05.29 | bleeter | tools that can handle installshield .cab files |
| 09:05.58 | sag_ich_nicht | oh right. |
| 09:06.07 | bleeter | though, given p7zip thing could read the .cab, but not give the index, etc., I shoulda known ;) |
| 09:07.03 | sag_ich_nicht | wooo |
| 09:07.09 | sag_ich_nicht | Gelmkar decided to start working |
| 09:07.15 | sag_ich_nicht | ABOUT TIME |
| 09:07.32 | sag_ich_nicht | i am doing his work since 3 hours :X |
| 09:07.57 | bleeter | EU CM? |
| 09:08.26 | sag_ich_nicht | not a CM, EU tech support forums |
| 09:08.27 | sag_ich_nicht | http://forums.wow-europe.com/board.html?forumId=11079&sid=1 |
| 09:09.39 | sag_ich_nicht | my hope is that by decreasing his workload on the forums, i'll get him to do more internal work, increasing the speed at which my techsupport request per email is worked on. |
| 09:10.48 | bleeter | if that's the ATI card concerned... there's an ATI uninstall driver utility. Back when I had an occasionaly ATI driver cockup (now I'm on nVidia), I found the uninstaller quite handy, as it'd force the dreaded reboot cycle/back to SVGA default before installing the new driver. Just my 2c. |
| 09:11.48 | bleeter | as well as allegedly, iirc, being a lot tighter on the uninstall than the actual update/uninstall routines inside the ATI driver installer itself (though this was a year or more ago, things may have improved) |
| 09:11.53 | bleeter | if you get my drift |
| 09:12.38 | sag_ich_nicht | lol, now he confused the errors, made a bluepost about a specific alt tab error that he's hunting(asking for people to email him the dxdiag, stacktraces, etc.), then deleted it when he noticed that it's the wrong reply |
| 09:12.52 | sag_ich_nicht | and well |
| 09:12.53 | sag_ich_nicht | http://forums.wow-europe.com/thread.html?topicId=941264284&sid=1 |
| 09:13.39 | bleeter | lack of useful info from the OP on that video thread don't help (card model, vendor, driver version, gx.log*) |
| 09:13.51 | sag_ich_nicht | mhm? |
| 09:13.53 | bleeter | *is gx.log from WoW used for anything? mines always 0bytes |
| 09:13.56 | sag_ich_nicht | you don't even know which thread i mean. |
| 09:14.24 | sag_ich_nicht | http://forums.wow-europe.com/thread.html?topicId=941524257&sid=1 that's the one which caused me to ask about the .dll version |
| 09:14.25 | sag_ich_nicht | >.> |
| 09:14.28 | bleeter | oh, post #4 has the dxdiag info.. dogh |
| 09:15.45 | bleeter | k, so that post there... I'd be getting out a can of freeze spray, and trying that out ;) |
| 09:16.06 | Nom- | hmmm you only need 6.something% +hit with a 2-hander right ? |
| 09:16.41 | sag_ich_nicht | depends on the level of the mob you want to not miss. |
| 09:17.23 | Nom- | boss level |
| 09:17.30 | Nom- | so 70 vs 73 |
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| 09:18.15 | bleeter | sag_ich_nicht: and also on that last post you showed, the tech guy will prolly ask for dxdiag stuff anyways. best to ask the OP to provide that before the blue gets in ;) |
| 09:19.25 | lolinternet | bleeter i did. now refresh the thread, he re-posted the exact same bluepost he already deleted |
| 09:19.30 | lolinternet | with the same error in it again |
| 09:20.28 | Nom- | ah its 9% against a lvl 73 |
| 09:20.29 | Nom- | bugger |
| 09:20.45 | Nom- | been a while since i raided as ret lol |
| 09:20.48 | Nom- | only got 7% now |
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| 09:24.08 | sarrrg_ich_nicht | -_- |
| 09:24.10 | sarrrg_ich_nicht | bad ISP |
| 09:24.12 | sarrrg_ich_nicht | no cookie. |
| 09:24.39 | zenzelezz | I made you a cookie... but your browser rejected it |
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| 09:43.58 | zenzelezz | heh, good old "the parlor" IRC-joke video |
| 09:51.02 | bleeter | sarrrg_ich_nicht: no, you've got the posts I'm talking about the wrong way round... /sigh |
| 09:51.54 | bleeter | sarrrg_ich_nicht: the one I mean that needs the dxdiag is the target colour change one |
| 09:58.34 | bleeter | so yeah, wild speculation is me... tseric was sacked, feathers handed in her notice |
| 09:58.42 | bleeter | gah, wrong # |
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| 11:10.39 | Wobin_ | norgs: ping =\ |
| 11:10.49 | Wobin_ | norgs: AucAdvanced is crashing my client =( |
| 11:11.00 | Wobin_ | when I search for anything it just freezes up |
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| 11:15.54 | Arelenda | hmm, I'm getting reports of my addon slowing down the computer, during long raids (it's a damage meter style addon) |
| 11:16.16 | Arelenda | but it doesn't do that for me. Anyone have experience with memory issues like this? |
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| 11:24.38 | Wobin_ | norgs: nm, updated =) |
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| 11:25.36 | JoshBorke | ~lart Wobin_ |
| 11:25.36 | purl | whacks Wobin_ upside the head |
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| 11:49.00 | sag_ich_nicht | http://img340.imageshack.us/img340/6259/acancergmuk8.jpg |
| 11:50.10 | zenzelezz | that's getting pretty old by now |
| 11:50.35 | sag_ich_nicht | fuck you :D |
| 11:52.57 | sag_ich_nicht | http://www.wowbash.com/image-642.html arrr, fukkin gold. |
| 11:53.31 | zenzelezz | haha |
| 12:04.45 | ben | yarr |
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| 12:34.48 | Mr_Rabies2 | hoooo |
| 12:35.56 | lolinternet | http://www.wowbash.com/image-542.html wow |
| 12:35.58 | lolinternet | serious win |
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| 12:38.04 | clad|packing | i don't get it, having not been to that encounter =( |
| 12:39.16 | bleeter | packing heat? |
| 12:39.30 | nevcairiel | its just the sentence .. "it couldnt get worse", and gorefiend screaming "it gets worse" :P |
| 12:39.55 | clad|packing | k k :P |
| 12:39.58 | clad|packing | i got that much |
| 12:40.06 | clad|packing | bleeter: always, but packing on top of that as well |
| 12:40.24 | zenzelezz | I have a similar screenshot from SMV... the Behemothon emote immediately followed by Mordenai shouting "Mother!" |
| 12:40.31 | nevcairiel | we had a funny thing in hyjal last week or so, one of our rogues died, asked for rezz in chat, and the same moment one of the npcs says "Stay dead." |
| 12:41.19 | lolinternet | nevcairiel no it's not just that |
| 12:41.24 | lolinternet | clad|packing read the description below the image |
| 12:41.37 | clad|packing | I did |
| 12:41.45 | lolinternet | oh |
| 12:41.45 | lolinternet | k |
| 12:42.05 | nevcairiel | shadow of death is very hard to manage when you are there the first time.. :) |
| 12:43.32 | Mr_Rabies2 | oh god |
| 12:43.40 | bleeter | http://www.wowbash.com/image-590.html |
| 12:43.42 | Mr_Rabies2 | http://www.wowbash.com/image-636.html |
| 12:43.45 | Mr_Rabies2 | this is amazing |
| 12:43.58 | Mr_Rabies2 | bwahaha, bleeter |
| 12:44.23 | bleeter | wowbash has certainly improved over the past few months... good to see :) |
| 12:44.31 | Mr_Rabies2 | yeah |
| 12:44.34 | Mr_Rabies2 | last i saw there were like |
| 12:44.36 | Mr_Rabies2 | 3 quotes |
| 12:44.38 | Mr_Rabies2 | and all were awful |
| 12:44.39 | clad|packing | lol |
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| 12:58.40 | Mr_Rabies2 | http://www.wowbash.com/image-521.html |
| 12:58.43 | Mr_Rabies2 | bwahahahaha |
| 13:01.29 | zenzelezz | wonder what the normal price was at the time of the screenshot |
| 13:03.52 | krka | i dont get it |
| 13:03.55 | krka | is it rare and useful? |
| 13:07.02 | lolinternet | http://www.wowbash.com/image-261.htmlmassive. win. |
| 13:08.02 | bleeter | your URL formoatting, massive lose :P |
| 13:08.13 | lolinternet | true. |
| 13:08.15 | lolinternet | http://www.wowbash.com/image-261.html |
| 13:08.15 | lolinternet | there |
| 13:08.17 | lolinternet | :P |
| 13:08.59 | Industrial | errr |
| 13:09.29 | Industrial | "ideas and assumptions as to how it should work" <-- is this correct english o_O |
| 13:09.36 | Industrial | ? |
| 13:10.12 | Mr_Rabies2 | so bored |
| 13:10.13 | Mr_Rabies2 | :[ |
| 13:10.19 | Mr_Rabies2 | i cant wait for wotlk |
| 13:10.36 | Rallion_ | Industrial, I think it is |
| 13:10.38 | Mr_Rabies2 | got nuffin tuh do |
| 13:10.38 | Mr_Rabies2 | :[ |
| 13:10.55 | Rallion_ | I leave for an 11-hour day of class in 15 minutes |
| 13:11.00 | Rallion_ | I'll trade you |
| 13:11.28 | Mr_Rabies2 | you wouldn't want me to |
| 13:11.35 | Mr_Rabies2 | i'd skip all of them |
| 13:11.40 | Rallion_ | ah...yes. |
| 13:11.49 | Rallion_ | I'm tempted to do that myself |
| 13:11.58 | Rallion_ | moreso than usual, even, I have a bit of a cold |
| 13:23.51 | bleeter | http://www.wowbash.com/image-494.html |
| 13:24.33 | bleeter | rofl http://www.wowbash.com/image-491.html |
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| 13:54.25 | Mr_Rabies2 | ah nothin like coming back from a wsg that was 2-0 |
| 13:58.31 | dreamss | hehe |
| 13:58.45 | dreamss | nothing like killing e 70s with a 66 lock :P |
| 13:58.58 | Mr_Rabies2 | nerf imo |
| 13:59.15 | dreamss | 2 of them were locks |
| 13:59.16 | zenzelezz | I remember a friend telling me how he killed 70s on his 62 warrior |
| 13:59.19 | dreamss | wsg is the shit |
| 13:59.24 | zenzelezz | let them finish a duel and hit them |
| 13:59.47 | dreamss | dude i that last night, this group of 5 were durling behind oshogun |
| 13:59.54 | dreamss | i did that" |
| 14:00.02 | dreamss | dueling too gah |
| 14:00.06 | Mr_Rabies2 | i wish my realm had any world pvp |
| 14:00.07 | Mr_Rabies2 | :/ |
| 14:00.30 | Mr_Rabies2 | i wish i could transfer pve-pvp, i mean it's not like the leveling experience is very different nowadays anyway |
| 14:00.32 | Industrial | just stand in front of sw/org and poop the shit out of any newbs passing by |
| 14:00.37 | Industrial | world pvp in 5 mins |
| 14:00.57 | cryogen | world pvp is a myth |
| 14:01.02 | dreamss | i dont get ppl in pve servers |
| 14:01.06 | dreamss | wow is about pvp |
| 14:01.10 | Mr_Rabies2 | i've taken to stealthing into org |
| 14:01.12 | dreamss | epeen/pissing ppl off |
| 14:01.24 | Mr_Rabies2 | and killing people waiting at the bg queues |
| 14:01.25 | dreamss | hows the ninjas on the roofs? |
| 14:01.31 | Mr_Rabies2 | they don't even see me |
| 14:01.38 | Mr_Rabies2 | i come in the side door |
| 14:01.38 | dreamss | lame |
| 14:01.42 | Industrial | brb getting stockade boost =D |
| 14:02.01 | Lopeppeppy | Everyone has a hobby, and the rest of the world thinks their hobby is lame. *shrug* |
| 14:02.02 | dreamss | i soloed the nessi mastery line, slaved the demons from the camp |
| 14:02.07 | dreamss | and they raped the elites |
| 14:02.11 | dreamss | since they inmune to fear |
| 14:02.12 | Mr_Rabies2 | one of my pastimes at 60 was killing all the org bankers |
| 14:02.14 | Mr_Rabies2 | hrm |
| 14:02.15 | dreamss | OP? nowai |
| 14:02.17 | Mr_Rabies2 | i think i may go do that |
| 14:02.47 | dreamss | Lopeppeppy, warcraft is allways been horde vs alliance |
| 14:03.11 | Mr_Rabies2 | wow didn't even have a pvp ruleset until late beta |
| 14:03.31 | Mr_Rabies2 | and no bgs until like, what, 6 months after the game came out? |
| 14:03.36 | zenzelezz | I must say I prefer sag's trolling |
| 14:03.38 | dreamss | i know |
| 14:04.37 | Lopeppeppy | dreamss, what does that have to do with anything being lame or not lame? *shrug* |
| 14:04.44 | grogwheel | can anybody think of an example of using a table when you don't need to besides lack of familiarity with multiple returns and variable argument functions? |
| 14:05.15 | dreamss | Lopeppeppy, just feels like pve realms are boring/lame hehe |
| 14:05.32 | |Jelly| | Based on your idea of "fun" I'm glad. |
| 14:06.18 | Mr_Rabies2 | i'd like to be able to transfer |
| 14:06.23 | Mr_Rabies2 | i wanted to start on a pvp server |
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| 14:06.33 | Mr_Rabies2 | but my buddies were all "Waah i don't wanna get ganked waaah" |
| 14:06.39 | Mr_Rabies2 | and now they've all quit and i'm stranded here |
| 14:06.44 | dreamss | i dont see why those doches were allowed to tranfer to a pvp realm from pve |
| 14:06.45 | Mr_Rabies2 | and i'm not rerolling |
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| 14:06.48 | dreamss | and noone else can |
| 14:06.56 | Mr_Rabies2 | they got transferred back, dreamss |
| 14:07.02 | dreamss | no wai |
| 14:07.09 | Mr_Rabies2 | ya wai |
| 14:07.10 | dreamss | i tranfered off before that |
| 14:07.16 | Lopeppeppy | So, dreamss? Go do what you like to do, and leave the realm you don't like. *shrug* |
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| 14:07.37 | dreamss | to much QQ? |
| 14:07.57 | dreamss | they screwed up the honor system there, real bad |
| 14:08.05 | dreamss | along with that other guild that got banned |
| 14:08.09 | Lopeppeppy | Then don't toss stones about who and what is lame. *shrug* |
| 14:09.03 | dreamss | Lopeppeppy, i dint mean the people are lame but the pve ruleset is |
| 14:09.39 | dreamss | overrated heh... i pissed them off so much when i took over the ratings lol |
| 14:09.57 | Mr_Rabies2 | the rulesets aren't much different really |
| 14:10.02 | Mr_Rabies2 | anymore |
| 14:10.18 | Mr_Rabies2 | you don't get ganked while leveling on most pvp servers, at least not by people you stand no chance against |
| 14:10.20 | dreamss | im glad the woftk pvp zone will flag everyone |
| 14:11.16 | dreamss | hehe my guild tag along gets me ganked =) |
| 14:11.17 | Lopeppeppy | So don't do PvE servers if you don't like it? I happen to like the ruleset and don't find it lame. Stick with what you like, leave the rest alone. What's so hard about it? |
| 14:11.17 | |Jelly| | "you don't get ganked while leveling on most pvp servers, at least not by people you stand no chance against" I almost fell out of my chair laughing. |
| 14:11.32 | dreamss | lol |
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| 14:11.56 | dreamss | i killed like 10k people from 60 to 70 |
| 14:12.00 | dreamss | like 5k honor |
| 14:12.03 | Wraanger | heyaz |
| 14:12.27 | |Jelly| | Hi Wraanger. |
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| 14:12.59 | dreamss | Lopeppeppy, dude u dont get it, im just saying it seems boring/lame just killing npcs |
| 14:13.00 | dreamss | whatever |
| 14:14.24 | zenzelezz | your way of saying it makes it sound like you disapprove of those who prefer that ruleset |
| 14:14.40 | Lopeppeppy | And I say it's not. *shrug* Fundamental disagreement. And what zenzelezz said is exactly why I care to debate the point. |
| 14:14.47 | dreamss | like anyone cres what i aprove? |
| 14:14.48 | dreamss | chill |
| 14:18.01 | Mr_Rabies2 | bwahahaha |
| 14:18.04 | Mr_Rabies2 | bankers down |
| 14:18.05 | Mr_Rabies2 | >:D |
| 14:18.10 | dreamss | they 60? |
| 14:18.11 | zenzelezz | ..? |
| 14:18.26 | Mr_Rabies2 | i was bored and snuck into orgimmar and took out the bankers |
| 14:18.26 | dreamss | heh lol |
| 14:18.57 | zenzelezz | O_o What's their respawn timer? |
| 14:19.00 | Mr_Rabies2 | now that i have some flagged horde in the area, it's gankin time |
| 14:19.23 | dreamss | i had a friend rogue who would MC the elite guy with the HWL axe |
| 14:19.28 | dreamss | heh |
| 14:19.30 | Mr_Rabies2 | muahaha |
| 14:19.37 | Mr_Rabies2 | pet saurfang |
| 14:19.47 | dreamss | ganking is fun :> |
| 14:20.11 | Mr_Rabies2 | took me killing two bankers before any horde noticed |
| 14:20.21 | dreamss | hehe |
| 14:20.32 | Mr_Rabies2 | i had guards all over me |
| 14:20.33 | Mr_Rabies2 | but eh |
| 14:20.37 | Mr_Rabies2 | they're 65 nonelite |
| 14:20.38 | dreamss | the other day someone dragged some elite mobs into the shatt pvp queu |
| 14:20.50 | dreamss | aparently they rapped people |
| 14:21.01 | Mr_Rabies2 | bankers respawned in less time than it took me to run back from razor hill |
| 14:21.14 | zenzelezz | weirdest thing I've seen was someone pulling Varedis in his demon form from Shadowmoon Valley to Aldor bank |
| 14:21.35 | dreamss | O_o |
| 14:23.20 | Mr_Rabies2 | i've seen people kite fel reavers and shit to a'dal |
| 14:23.22 | Mr_Rabies2 | that's fun |
| 14:23.31 | Mr_Rabies2 | they buffed him up since last i saw |
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| 14:23.34 | |Jelly| | Anyone know why GetSpellAutocast("Growl", BOOKTYPE_PET) returns 1 despite it being on or off? |
| 14:23.36 | Mr_Rabies2 | he can twoshot a felreaver now |
| 14:24.00 | dreamss | remote control felreaver sounds fun |
| 14:25.03 | dreamss | http://www.computerworld.com/action/article.do?command=viewArticleBasic&articleId=9037398&pageNumber=2 |
| 14:27.25 | zenzelezz | |Jelly|: "Check whether the specified pet ability autocasts or not." -- if I read that right it sounds like it's checking if the spell can be autocast, not whether you currently have it toggled on or off |
| 14:28.12 | |Jelly| | Well. When I change it to autocast, it changes the dump. |
| 14:28.43 | |Jelly| | I'm just to dur to do anything with the information it's giving me. |
| 14:28.52 | zenzelezz | I'm confused about what you're saying |
| 14:29.08 | |Jelly| | Gimme a sec. Uploading a screenshot. |
| 14:29.22 | zenzelezz | you say it returns 1 both for it being on and off, then you say changing it to autocast gives something different... but what's "autocast" and what's "on/off" then? |
| 14:29.27 | |Jelly| | ...faster to do that than to enable prat etc. |
| 14:29.55 | |Jelly| | http://i11.tinypic.com/5zgadt3.jpg The top one is with auto cast off and the bottom is on. |
| 14:30.08 | |Jelly| | I'm sure it's something stupid simple...I'm just not getting it. |
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| 14:34.25 | zenzelezz | looking at a Google result I think it returns two values, <autocastable> and <autocaststate>... basically if it only returns 1, it's an autocastable but disabled, if it returns 1, 1 it's autocastable and enabled, if it's an empty result then it's not autocastable |
| 14:36.04 | |Jelly| | http://wowi.pastey.net/74136 So what would you do? :\ |
| 14:36.22 | Mr_Rabies2 | rofl |
| 14:36.32 | Mr_Rabies2 | the warlock i almost killed got on his alliance account and was like "wtf?" |
| 14:36.48 | dreamss | LOL |
| 14:36.55 | Mr_Rabies2 | i ressed and almost killed him at the repairman with my hp at 50% |
| 14:36.58 | dreamss | ganking is serious business |
| 14:37.04 | Mr_Rabies2 | nah he was cool about it |
| 14:37.05 | Mr_Rabies2 | he was like |
| 14:37.19 | Mr_Rabies2 | "what the hell, i was just standing there repairing and you come out of nowhere and start gnawing on me" |
| 14:37.29 | dreamss | stabstabstab |
| 14:37.35 | Mr_Rabies2 | well |
| 14:37.38 | Mr_Rabies2 | clawclawclaw |
| 14:38.03 | dreamss | druid cats should wear fist weapons |
| 14:38.05 | dreamss | heh |
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| 14:38.42 | dreamss | i hate good feral druids, they much worse than rogues |
| 14:39.32 | Mr_Rabies2 | we don't scale nearly as well, unfortunately |
| 14:41.19 | zenzelezz | |Jelly|: untested, but I think http://wowi.pastey.net/74137 |
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| 14:42.43 | Industrial | Mr_Rabies2: scale? how |
| 14:42.53 | zenzelezz | |Jelly|: that's based on your code though, which only checks whether Growl is on when you enter a group, so if you leave a group with Growl on it will still tell you to turn it back on |
| 14:44.01 | Mr_Rabies2 | indy, we don't scale nearly as well as rogues with AP |
| 14:44.12 | Mr_Rabies2 | it takes a lot more to get the same amount of DPS |
| 14:44.36 | Mr_Rabies2 | which wouldn't be a problem if there was str gear out there and we didn't have to use rogue gear, but alas :/ |
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| 14:44.50 | Lopeppeppy | No gear, no scaling, no love. |
| 14:45.16 | Mr_Rabies2 | there's a reason you don't see many bt guilds with feral druids |
| 14:45.33 | Mr_Rabies2 | our tanking hits a plateau fairly early too, unfortunately |
| 14:45.34 | zenzelezz | DPS or tank ferals? Or is that the same thing |
| 14:46.15 | Mr_Rabies2 | druids hit the armor cap at around magtheridon level or so |
| 14:46.34 | zenzelezz | doesn't answer my question though |
| 14:46.42 | Mr_Rabies2 | both, but they're not the same thing |
| 14:46.54 | Lopeppeppy | zenzelezz, DPS and tank can be together or separate, depending on drooood in question.... it's weird. |
| 14:47.00 | Mr_Rabies2 | require vastly different gear |
| 14:47.08 | zenzelezz | I see |
| 14:47.14 | Mr_Rabies2 | a druid can dps and tank but can't swap between one or the other in the same fight |
| 14:47.29 | zenzelezz | there are quite a lot more feral tanks around these days than before BC, even for BT |
| 14:47.38 | zenzelezz | but many people are still prejudiced about them |
| 14:47.41 | Lopeppeppy | But you do see some with two different gear sets, kitty for one fight, bear for another -- the talent tree can support both. |
| 14:47.42 | Mr_Rabies2 | and you can't expect him to have awesome tank gear AND awesome dps gear in his bags, especially if you use dkp |
| 14:47.46 | Mr_Rabies2 | zenz, yes |
| 14:48.01 | Mr_Rabies2 | but we hit a plateau and can't survive long enough in Hyjal and BT |
| 14:49.21 | Lopeppeppy | Yeah.... not looking forward to that time frame, as our raid group has a high proportion of druid tanks and a low proportion of warrior tanks. |
| 14:49.37 | Mr_Rabies2 | and the feral itemization really tapers off at hyjal, but i'll probably never see hyjal so it doesn't bother me that much |
| 14:50.02 | krka | heh, my function call size test has been running for nine hours at home now |
| 14:50.12 | krka | i was assuming it would crash and stop eventually |
| 14:50.22 | Lopeppeppy | Dunno that my group will get there either, Mr_Rabies2, but it's nice to dream. |
| 14:50.58 | Mr_Rabies2 | i honestly think blizzard forgets how they set up druid talents for the dps itemization |
| 14:51.09 | Mr_Rabies2 | our spec and the items available do not work together well :/ |
| 14:51.12 | Mr_Rabies2 | er, talents |
| 14:51.22 | Mr_Rabies2 | the talents are all str, str, str, str |
| 14:51.31 | Mr_Rabies2 | and the gear is all AP, AP, AP, AP |
| 14:51.51 | Mr_Rabies2 | and per item point AP is much worse for a druid than str |
| 14:52.28 | Mr_Rabies2 | agi's important (for both specs) also, but for dps, a good balance of str and agi is incredibly important |
| 14:52.50 | zenzelezz | I'm going to assume you're not among the "zomg ferals != rogues fix!!" crowd from the forums and trust you're right about the armor; personally I don't know anything like enough about druids to know =) |
| 14:52.57 | Mr_Rabies2 | instead we get AP and Crit Rating which are both far worse on a budget:dps ratio for us |
| 14:53.43 | Mr_Rabies2 | i do believe that if a class is expected to do a role, the gear should be there to allow them to do that role, regardless of class, hybrid or whatever |
| 14:54.19 | Lopeppeppy | Look for tanking gear for feral druids for SSC.... and then look at pretty crafted plate resistance for warriors... sucks. |
| 14:54.25 | Mr_Rabies2 | we should do enough dps in comparison to a rogue to be wanted at all levels of raiding, otherwise it's a step backwards |
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| 14:54.37 | Mr_Rabies2 | yeah, that's another thing, no resist gear |
| 14:55.19 | Mr_Rabies2 | our DPS plus the increased dps from leader of the pack should roughly equate to a rogue's dps without leader of the pack in similar level gear |
| 14:55.19 | Lopeppeppy | I've been helping my paladin and druid tanks try to gear up, so I see the very glaring difference in what is available. Druids shouldn't be wearing AQ gear to SSC... |
| 14:55.44 | Mr_Rabies2 | our DPS plus the increased dps from leader of the pack(to the party) should roughly equate to a rogue's dps without leader of the pack in similar level gear |
| 14:55.49 | Mr_Rabies2 | or we have no role |
| 14:56.23 | zenzelezz | |Jelly|: did you see the response? |
| 14:56.28 | |Jelly| | Yes. |
| 14:56.50 | Mr_Rabies2 | that's not me saying rogues and druids should have dps, but the added dps i give to the party should be roughly equal to the difference in my dps to a rogue's without leader of the pack |
| 14:56.54 | Mr_Rabies2 | er |
| 14:57.05 | Mr_Rabies2 | s/have dps/have equal dps/ |
| 14:57.14 | Mr_Rabies2 | bleh |
| 14:57.46 | |Jelly| | It works in that it doesn't tell you to turn growl off but now it tells you to turn growl on. lol So it works in that it does what it's coded to do, I just need to figure out how to write it. |
| 14:58.33 | Mr_Rabies2 | same with tanking, if we have a spec designed for tanking, we should be able to tank some fights better than warriors at all levels, and they should be able to outtank us on others, and quite a few we should be equals, otherwise we're not needed in a community that loves to min/max |
| 14:58.52 | zenzelezz | |Jelly|: you mean you don't want it to tell you to turn Growl on when it's already on; or some other way of not working? |
| 14:58.56 | Lopeppeppy | Mr_Rabies2 -- the thought I keep trying to put into my raid group's head is "equivalent", not "equal".... "competitive" not "exact". |
| 14:59.05 | Mr_Rabies2 | exactly |
| 14:59.12 | Lopeppeppy | Still workin' on it. |
| 14:59.28 | Mr_Rabies2 | because it's not like we can swap to dps from tanking or vice versa |
| 14:59.35 | Mr_Rabies2 | in a raid, we're not hybrids, except between fights |
| 15:00.19 | |Jelly| | Well. "PARTY_MEMBERS_CHANGED" fires when people enter zones, join the group, etc. It spams you pretty badly. I'm wanting it to not do that but rather just check if it's already enabled/disabled and move from there. The next hurdle, so to speak, will be check if you have a pet cause it spams you if your pet is dismissed currently too. |
| 15:00.56 | geno-afk | [10:58:38] <Mr_Rabies2> in a raid, we're not hybrids, except between fights |
| 15:00.58 | Lopeppeppy | That's the next concept I have to force into brains. You can tell a catdrood to stand up and heal, but don't holler later about how he should be better at it. Wrong gear. |
| 15:01.11 | geno-afk | I'd have to say that's true with every "hybrid" class |
| 15:01.17 | Mr_Rabies2 | exactly, geno |
| 15:01.21 | Mr_Rabies2 | i'm just speaking from personal experience |
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| 15:01.39 | zenzelezz | |Jelly|: if you could line somewhat clearly exactly how you want it to work it would be easier to write the code in a way that wouldn't end up looking hackish |
| 15:01.42 | Mr_Rabies2 | i don't have a pally or shaman at a high enough level to have any input on them |
| 15:01.54 | |Jelly| | I'll work on it and get back to you. :P |
| 15:01.58 | Mr_Rabies2 | but i do believe pally tanks should be roughly equivalent to druid and warrior tanks |
| 15:02.27 | Mr_Rabies2 | and retadins are a tough way to do things properly |
| 15:02.32 | Mr_Rabies2 | same with fury warriors |
| 15:02.55 | Lopeppeppy | Pally tanks also hit the Itemization Sucks wall. So do the rets. There's some gear out there for fury warriors, but my experience with them is limited, sadly. |
| 15:03.04 | Mr_Rabies2 | they do an asston of damage and have much higher survivability than other melee at the same time, which isn't a huge deal in pve, but a giant one in pvp |
| 15:03.32 | zenzelezz | fury warriors? |
| 15:04.06 | zenzelezz | DPS warriors are unlucky in raids usually, their survivability (to bosses) isn't that big, and they have no threat reduction |
| 15:04.12 | Mr_Rabies2 | i suggest reducing base warrior damage and giving them a self buff that increases dps and decreases AC by a significant percent, and similar for paladins |
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| 15:05.18 | Mr_Rabies2 | druids have cower, which is pretty unsubstantial |
| 15:05.35 | Mr_Rabies2 | it's like not even half a shred |
| 15:05.38 | Mr_Rabies2 | in terms of aggro |
| 15:05.56 | zenzelezz | I'm comparing DPS warriors to all DPS classes. That means Vanish, Feign Death, Invisibility, etc. They come out poorly there |
| 15:06.17 | Mr_Rabies2 | yeah, we don't have anything like that either |
| 15:06.33 | Intangir | nerf warriors |
| 15:06.38 | Mr_Rabies2 | we have cower, which is like 1200 threat reduction |
| 15:06.43 | Mr_Rabies2 | which is next to nothing |
| 15:06.49 | Intangir | nerf druids |
| 15:06.51 | Intangir | j/k |
| 15:07.05 | Mr_Rabies2 | i'd kill for a vanish type effect |
| 15:07.11 | zenzelezz | 1200 threat, that's like what, 2 hits? |
| 15:07.12 | Intangir | you have one |
| 15:07.21 | Intangir | Mr_Rabies2: theres a way to instantly lose all threat as a druid |
| 15:07.25 | Mr_Rabies2 | die? |
| 15:07.29 | Intangir | ya ;) |
| 15:07.29 | Intangir | hahaha |
| 15:07.41 | Mr_Rabies2 | that works for pretty much anyone :[ |
| 15:07.47 | Mr_Rabies2 | maybe they'll give warriors like |
| 15:07.52 | Mr_Rabies2 | the blademaster thing |
| 15:08.16 | Mr_Rabies2 | or something |
| 15:08.18 | Mr_Rabies2 | i dunno |
| 15:08.21 | Intangir | to do what? |
| 15:08.25 | Intangir | warriors dont need anything else |
| 15:08.37 | geno-afk | it's getting to the point where all classes aren't unique anymore :/ |
| 15:08.43 | Mr_Rabies2 | they need a threat reduction of some sort, as do shamans, paladins, and druids |
| 15:09.00 | Intangir | maybe they should just lower the ammount of threat their attacks make |
| 15:09.03 | geno-afk | just give fury warriors a talent that reduces threat gained |
| 15:09.30 | Lopeppeppy | It is, geno. I believe I've read a few Bliz opinions that in trying to make classes too unique, they actually kinda screwed up. They can't support the niche-setup consistently, and need to backtrack a bit. |
| 15:09.35 | Intangir | if as a rogue i barely need threat reduction, what do all the other classes need it for |
| 15:09.44 | Mr_Rabies2 | Intangir, they already have a threat reduction in berserker stance |
| 15:09.56 | Mr_Rabies2 | Intangir, i have to cower every cooldown to not pull agrro |
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| 15:09.59 | Mr_Rabies2 | aggro* |
| 15:10.06 | geno-afk | If my tank is really good I don't even have to vanish |
| 15:10.14 | Mr_Rabies2 | you're saying you never vanish in a boss fight? |
| 15:10.25 | Mr_Rabies2 | because if so you may need better gear :X |
| 15:10.31 | Lopeppeppy | I Feint like a madwoman as my rogue, and use my Vanish only when the aggro won't dump onto someone unsuspecting. |
| 15:10.50 | Intangir | Mr_Rabies2: ya i dont have to vanish much |
| 15:10.50 | zenzelezz | the worst thing I see on bosses is hunters nearing the top of the threat list |
| 15:10.53 | zenzelezz | (and staying there) |
| 15:10.56 | Mr_Rabies2 | i'd kill for a vanish clone |
| 15:10.57 | Intangir | a few bosses i do, that reset agro |
| 15:11.08 | |Jelly| | I've wiped on Prince more than once cause of hunters. |
| 15:11.12 | Intangir | but ya i rarely have to faint or vanish |
| 15:11.21 | Mr_Rabies2 | i would set an orphanage on fire if it meant druids would have a vanish type effect |
| 15:11.22 | geno-afk | I was saying if the tank is really good, granted we always don't have our best tank |
| 15:11.31 | Mr_Rabies2 | Intangir, you may need better gear then man :/ |
| 15:11.33 | Intangir | when we have a druid tanking, its impossible to steal agro |
| 15:11.35 | zenzelezz | |Jelly|: we had a shitload of trouble with demon phase on Leotheras because hunters followed the "we can wait till we have aggro" theory, which didn't work well |
| 15:11.44 | Intangir | thats being #1 - #3 in damage |
| 15:11.46 | Mr_Rabies2 | i steal aggro all the time unless i'm backing way off on dps |
| 15:11.47 | |Jelly| | lol |
| 15:11.52 | geno-afk | specifically, I'm talking about Tidewalker two nights ago |
| 15:11.56 | Intangir | maybe your doing too much damage right at the start |
| 15:11.58 | Intangir | dont ambush ;) |
| 15:12.02 | Mr_Rabies2 | i don't |
| 15:12.07 | geno-afk | I was pulling 1300 dps, and didn't have the need to vanish :/ |
| 15:12.16 | Mr_Rabies2 | i usually pounce unless they're stun or bleed immune, which both are common |
| 15:12.16 | Intangir | well we have good tanks i guess |
| 15:12.23 | Mr_Rabies2 | otherwise i wait for 4 sunders on trash even |
| 15:12.33 | Mr_Rabies2 | and still pull aggro unless i cower and back off constantly |
| 15:12.46 | Intangir | that sucks |
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| 15:13.03 | Mr_Rabies2 | and i wind up like, 5th on the meters, absolutely maxing out my dps without pulling aggro |
| 15:13.20 | Mr_Rabies2 | because i'm having to back off so much |
| 15:13.30 | Intangir | well last time i was really serious about raiding (speced for it and everything) i went all out damage fast as i could |
| 15:13.33 | Intangir | was topping the metter |
| 15:13.40 | Intangir | and not having to vanish or faint |
| 15:13.47 | geno-afk | when your threat is too high, hop out of cat and spot heal the rogues :D |
| 15:13.51 | Mr_Rabies2 | i could top the meter easily if i didn't have to back off so much |
| 15:13.51 | Intangir | i guess we had a good tank |
| 15:13.53 | Mr_Rabies2 | uh, geno |
| 15:14.02 | Mr_Rabies2 | that's a good way to get even MORE threat and go even further below on dps |
| 15:14.16 | Intangir | raiding was fun i guess |
| 15:14.21 | Intangir | i havent raided in a month or two |
| 15:14.26 | Intangir | not even a kara |
| 15:14.29 | Mr_Rabies2 | so many times have i shifted out to emergency heal the tank and manage to pull aggro and get oneshotted during a boss fight |
| 15:14.30 | Intangir | i dont think ive even done a heroic |
| 15:14.33 | geno-afk | +0 healing doesn't produce a lot of threat :P |
| 15:15.30 | AnduinLothar | druid healing is the highest threat healing afaik |
| 15:15.37 | AnduinLothar | they always need salv |
| 15:16.01 | geno-afk | if you don't already have salv then you can quit whining :/ |
| 15:16.09 | AnduinLothar | esp in 5 mans where they aren't just hot'ing |
| 15:16.38 | Intangir | aha, there ya go |
| 15:16.45 | Intangir | Mr_Rabies2: salv |
| 15:17.25 | geno-afk | Feral druids need a soulstone mechanic |
| 15:17.36 | geno-afk | if you die in cat form you have 8 more lives :D |
| 15:17.41 | Intangir | lol ;) |
| 15:17.47 | Intangir | thats funny |
| 15:17.56 | Intangir | dont tell any blizz guys that |
| 15:17.57 | Intangir | they will do it |
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| 15:18.43 | Intangir | laters |
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| 15:37.19 | zenzelezz | I don't see the logic of advertising your Kara-level guild with "we got people with TK/SSC Exp!"... that means they either got kicked or fed up with raiding |
| 15:39.42 | |Jelly| | lol |
| 15:40.17 | |Jelly| | So. You're gonna join a guild with either flakes or assholes or both. Hmm. nothxbai. |
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| 15:56.26 | Intangir | runnin a guild sucks |
| 15:56.38 | Intangir | i used to have a raiding guild |
| 15:57.20 | Intangir | you work so hard to get into these isntances, and on the verge of every success members you thought you knew try to betray you and fuck you over, and take as many members as possible to steal and or ruin what youve built |
| 15:57.31 | Mr_Rabies2 | <Intangir> Mr_Rabies2: salv |
| 15:57.36 | Mr_Rabies2 | almost always have it, especially in 25 mans |
| 15:57.58 | Intangir | nerf druid dps ;) |
| 15:58.05 | AnduinLothar | Intangir: you played with the wrong peeps |
| 15:58.10 | Mr_Rabies2 | <Mr_Rabies2> and i wind up like, 5th on the meters, absolutely maxing out my dps without pulling aggro |
| 15:58.37 | Intangir | AnduinLothar: well im more a casual guy, it took most of our members i guess around a month and a half or 2 months to get 70 |
| 15:58.38 | AnduinLothar | dont feel bad Mr_Rabies2. you're not a ret pally |
| 15:58.54 | Mr_Rabies2 | yeah if i get swung at i don't survive the first hit :[ |
| 15:58.55 | Intangir | so finding raiders and preparing everyone was harder |
| 15:59.01 | Codayus | Hmm, what date did TBC launch? |
| 15:59.06 | Intangir | cause all the most serious players were in other guilds |
| 15:59.09 | AnduinLothar | try being a ret pally and not pullign agro on VR |
| 15:59.33 | |Jelly| | ret pally <-- your problem. :P |
| 15:59.34 | Valaron|Work | Hmm.. december 2006... |
| 15:59.34 | AnduinLothar | even with tranquil air and salv and -threat to cloak... |
| 15:59.38 | Intangir | that VR fight is retarded.. for melee |
| 15:59.40 | Intangir | you cant hardly hit him |
| 15:59.42 | Mr_Rabies2 | jan 16 2007 in the US, Valaron|Work |
| 15:59.52 | Codayus | Intangir: How so? |
| 15:59.52 | Valaron|Work | Well, there ya go. |
| 15:59.56 | Mr_Rabies2 | europe, and australia also |
| 16:00.00 | AnduinLothar | and w/o windfury |
| 16:00.14 | Intangir | when he fires those ball things at that range you basically cant dodge, and it hits everyone up close |
| 16:00.19 | Intangir | also he stomps or whateer it was |
| 16:00.24 | Intangir | so you have to run out constantly |
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| 16:00.30 | AnduinLothar | wht? |
| 16:00.33 | AnduinLothar | no |
| 16:00.33 | Intangir | you can onyl swing at him for such short periods |
| 16:00.36 | AnduinLothar | do NOT run out |
| 16:00.38 | Codayus | Intangir: Erm. Melee should NEVER get hit by a ball, or you're doing something terribly wrong. |
| 16:00.49 | Intangir | how do you figure? |
| 16:00.52 | AnduinLothar | step 1) all melee never leaves melee |
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| 16:01.03 | Codayus | As for running out, naa, just use about...2 CoH priests or so. |
| 16:01.04 | AnduinLothar | step 2) no one enters melee after it's started |
| 16:01.27 | AnduinLothar | step 3) put either aoe healers or 2 pallies in melee to heal dps |
| 16:01.37 | Intangir | oh we did it wrong then |
| 16:02.03 | Intangir | all of our melee were ducking in and out constantly |
| 16:02.08 | Intangir | no dedicated healers for any of us |
| 16:02.10 | Intangir | we had to bandage |
| 16:02.10 | AnduinLothar | that's suicide |
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| 16:02.31 | Intangir | well we still got him, but all our melee damages were so shitty, and it took a really long time |
| 16:02.35 | Codayus | Intangir: Hmm, you can probably do it running out too...but... Melee tops our dmg meters every week on VR, I don't know how we could kill him if our melee wasn't going all out. Maybe if we had BT gear. :-) |
| 16:02.57 | AnduinLothar | running out gets melee orbed tho |
| 16:02.58 | Codayus | (Okay, fine, we could do it. It'd still suck.) |
| 16:03.02 | Intangir | hunters were all on top ithink |
| 16:03.13 | Intangir | ya we had to dodge orbs just like everyone else |
| 16:03.17 | AnduinLothar | lame |
| 16:03.18 | Osagasu | On my mage, I was actually having to hold back on VR. >.> |
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| 16:03.38 | Intangir | that explains why that fight was so gay i guess ;) |
| 16:03.40 | Intangir | we were doing it wrong |
| 16:04.07 | Osagasu | http://img258.imageshack.us/img258/5973/gmlolhd7.png |
| 16:04.10 | Intangir | was interesting though hehe |
| 16:04.12 | Intangir | that place was weird |
| 16:04.27 | Codayus | Well, the fight is...kinda sad no matter what. 8-9 minutes of running around in a circle. And I'm a shadow priest, so it's even worse... |
| 16:04.30 | Intangir | i deleted that character ;( |
| 16:04.35 | Intangir | i quit wow, deleted all my characters |
| 16:04.41 | Osagasu | Does anyone know what this "Rock" is, and why it's messing with my Ace addons? >.> |
| 16:05.07 | Cairenn | it's ck's new framework |
| 16:05.10 | Codayus | Rock is ckknights new and improved framework. He's ported all his Ace2 addons over to it. |
| 16:05.18 | Codayus | Ya, what she said. :-) |
| 16:05.21 | Intangir | Osagasu: hahahahaha |
| 16:05.25 | deltron | lol I had like 10 ppl ask me that last night |
| 16:05.31 | Intangir | Osagasu: whats with the GM ;) |
| 16:05.41 | Osagasu | Talk like a pirate day was yesterday, Intangir. |
| 16:05.53 | Codayus | Yar. |
| 16:05.55 | Intangir | oooh |
| 16:05.56 | Osagasu | Yarr. |
| 16:06.02 | Intangir | i talk like a pirate a little all the time ;) |
| 16:06.19 | Intangir | but that was extreme ;) |
| 16:06.22 | Codayus | Yes, I make up for not celebrating talk like a parrot day by getting a little in every day... |
| 16:06.25 | Codayus | ....WTF, PIRATE. |
| 16:06.28 | Osagasu | I miss my old fubar interface. x.X |
| 16:06.30 | Wobin__ | awk |
| 16:06.37 | Codayus | Mind you, talk like a parrot day would be fun too... |
| 16:06.38 | Intangir | parrot ;) |
| 16:06.48 | Intangir | polly want a cracker! |
| 16:06.49 | Intangir | hehe |
| 16:06.51 | Pawwot | awk |
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| 16:06.58 | Codayus | Polly wants a cracker! AWK! |
| 16:07.22 | Codayus | Osagasu: Actually, the Rock upgrade didn't cause me the slightest issue...Fubar works the same as always. |
| 16:07.28 | Intangir | we had a parrot when i was growing up, we lived near a place they were doign alot of building |
| 16:07.34 | Intangir | all those big trucks made that beep beep sound when backing up |
| 16:07.36 | Codayus | I assume it'd because I lead a virtuous life. Well...that and the goat I sacrificed. |
| 16:07.38 | Intangir | the parrot mimmicked that |
| 16:07.44 | Nom- | hmm they made track humanoids a level 32 ability for druids now ? |
| 16:07.44 | Intangir | he was always beep beeping.. was so annoying |
| 16:07.48 | Codayus | lol |
| 16:07.51 | Osagasu | I right click fubar now, and rock pops up. |
| 16:08.17 | Pawwot | night all |
| 16:09.14 | Codayus | Osagasu: Ah, right. Fubar used to use a dewdrop menu for configuration, now it uses rock... |
| 16:09.45 | Nom- | or was I just bugged for a long time... my level 20-something druid used to get track humanoids every time i switched to cat form |
| 16:09.57 | Nom- | just i noticed it on wowhead as a level 32 ability now |
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| 16:13.50 | cncfanatics | yo all |
| 16:15.00 | zenzelezz | I swear my family is peculiar... we gather around the kitchen table more to assemble computers than to eat |
| 16:15.17 | cncfanatics | lol |
| 16:15.20 | art3mis | do you point at other humans and make high pitched shreiking sounds? |
| 16:15.25 | cncfanatics | hmmm, how would one find out a spell's range ? |
| 16:15.54 | cncfanatics | ~seen Cyrez |
| 16:15.56 | purl | cyrez is currently on #wowace. Has said a total of 3 messages. Is idling for 2d 19h 6m 51s, last said: 'I'm loving the new config UI.'. |
| 16:16.01 | Codayus | zenzelezz: Seems normal to me. |
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| 16:22.20 | zenzelezz | I don't like to blindly trust the WWS reports my guild seems to love, but it seems to always claim I do just a tiny bit less damage with Shield Slam throughout the raids than I do with auto-attack |
| 16:23.09 | Nom- | I find the values are usually accurate |
| 16:23.13 | Codayus | zenzelezz: Could be; it depends a lot on gear. |
| 16:23.22 | Nom- | as long as the person recording has their log range high enough |
| 16:23.29 | Nom- | I don't trush the dps numbers tho |
| 16:23.51 | Codayus | But since WWS pulls data directly from the combat log, it might miss an event, and it could even get timing wrong, but if it says ability X hit for Y...it did. |
| 16:24.12 | Osagasu | Also |
| 16:24.23 | Osagasu | I log in, and all of my settings are reset on Fubar |
| 16:25.00 | Osagasu | every time |
| 16:25.08 | Codayus | That being said, our MT shield slams for...~539 average, but auto-attack hits for ~156. |
| 16:25.21 | Shirik|zZz | Osagasu: What OS? |
| 16:25.38 | Osagasu | Windows |
| 16:25.40 | Shirik|zZz | ... |
| 16:25.43 | Shirik|zZz | what Windows? |
| 16:25.45 | Osagasu | XP |
| 16:25.59 | Codayus | You must have a pretty amazing tanking weapon, or like, no shield block value. :-) |
| 16:26.13 | Shirik | interesting |
| 16:26.18 | Shirik | oh |
| 16:26.21 | Shirik | do you have any rock things? |
| 16:26.39 | Codayus | Fubar has been Rocked, so...yeah. |
| 16:27.01 | |Jelly| | So is the new thing Rock RDX? /boggle |
| 16:27.25 | Osagasu | The addons themselves don't get reset, but their placement does |
| 16:27.48 | Codayus | Osagasu: I don't have that problem... :-( |
| 16:29.01 | AnduinLothar | could jsut be a fast weapon |
| 16:29.31 | zenzelezz | Codayus: no, only King's Defender, and my Shield Slams are usually 450-490 damage |
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| 16:29.56 | art3mis | hey any of you clowns know any good offsite backup companies? |
| 16:30.34 | art3mis | that have like automated nightly over tha internet encrypted uploads to a data center with a decent user interface for directory selection n such? |
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| 16:30.47 | Codayus | zenzelezz: Wait, didn't you say your auto attack was hitting for MORE than shield slam? |
| 16:30.58 | zenzelezz | in total |
| 16:31.01 | Codayus | Oh |
| 16:31.03 | zenzelezz | last night's SSC I did ~35% melee, ~29% Shield Slam damage |
| 16:31.20 | Codayus | lol, right. Nevermind. |
| 16:31.44 | zenzelezz | I concur that it would be one hell of a tank weapon to do 500 per hit :-p |
| 16:32.00 | Lopeppeppy | I steeelz that huge weapon if it ever shows up! |
| 16:32.43 | Osagasu | Or one very oddly specced tank. |
| 16:32.44 | Codayus | That's still an odd ratio though. If nothing else, don'tyou use HS? |
| 16:32.46 | zenzelezz | I find it sad when I console myself to wipes by thinking of how cute the girl shouting "nooo" on Vent sounds |
| 16:33.20 | Osagasu | the girls in my raid guild cuss when we wipe |
| 16:33.42 | Osagasu | It's hilarious, because we did a full night of alar, clearing trash twice, and every time |
| 16:33.44 | zenzelezz | Codayus: I do; 19% of my damage last night. I use it only when I think I have rage to burn |
| 16:33.47 | Lopeppeppy | I don't get all shouty.... "Death is only the beginning, now run back you scurvy seadogs!" was the line from last night. |
| 16:33.58 | Codayus | Hmm, last Gruul kill - 36% HS, 20% Shield Slam, 16% Devestate, 13% melee, 10% revenge... |
| 16:34.09 | zenzelezz | I don't care what they say, as long as they have a cute voice :-p |
| 16:34.17 | zenzelezz | I spam SS to cooldown |
| 16:34.24 | Codayus | *nod* |
| 16:34.33 | Osagasu | one of them is a mother, so I can't bring myself around to saying that about her. |
| 16:36.10 | Lopeppeppy | I get it all the time, "Let Kirwan talk!" |
| 16:36.32 | Osagasu | Our raid leader is cute too, but he's straight. Q.Q |
| 16:36.53 | Lopeppeppy | The Raindrops of Reality should water the spirit, not dampen it. |
| 16:37.23 | Codayus | Hmm |
| 16:37.29 | Codayus | That's a good line. I should steal it. |
| 16:37.37 | Lopeppeppy | I've watched too many foreign films this week! |
| 16:37.44 | |Jelly| | Worgen aggro range is fucking dumb. |
| 16:37.59 | Osagasu | ...compared to murlocs? |
| 16:38.07 | Codayus | |Jelly|: Duskwood is fun, no? |
| 16:38.20 | |Jelly| | Duskwood is the epitome of stupid. |
| 16:38.30 | zenzelezz | I think Duskwood is my favorite Alliance zone |
| 16:38.40 | Rallion | Duskwood is all about running away from mobs that for the love of god you don't want to fight any more of |
| 16:38.49 | Codayus | I actually like the zone...good quests, fun backstory. But damn I get sick of swimming the Westfall river to get to a flight master... |
| 16:38.53 | Rallion | that, and stitches. |
| 16:39.24 | Codayus | zenzelezz: Yeah, definetly a good zone. Better than *spit*Redridge*spit* |
| 16:39.24 | art3mis | i hate alliance GY points |
| 16:39.50 | Lopeppeppy | I love the lore in Duskwood. There's a NE questine that ends there, which is tied to Karazhan. |
| 16:39.56 | Codayus | Otherwise known as "hey let's just drop mobs randomly into a zone. What level? I dunno, let's just roll the dice!" |
| 16:39.57 | art3mis | they're almost as bad as horde ones cuz no matter where i died, i was never close to a different one and my GY res spot was almost > 1k yards away from my corpse |
| 16:40.00 | zenzelezz | I'm not sure which zone I preferred overall... Feralas perhaps |
| 16:40.06 | Rallion | lol what I used to hate about duskwood, especially, was dying, IN A GRAVEYARD, and having to run across the zone anyway |
| 16:40.25 | Codayus | Heh |
| 16:40.34 | Osagasu | Well, they added a spirit there |
| 16:40.39 | Rallion | yeah |
| 16:40.54 | Codayus | I think if they'd given Duskwood another flight point...maybe two...and a few more graveyards... |
| 16:40.55 | Lopeppeppy | Great, so you can waste your going on spirit rezzing in Raven Hill? |
| 16:40.55 | Osagasu | What I hate? |
| 16:41.02 | Osagasu | There are spirits at the entrance of BT. |
| 16:41.15 | Osagasu | But... if I die anywhere on the terraces? |
| 16:41.22 | Osagasu | Nope, gotta run all the way from the aldor base |
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| 16:41.59 | Lopeppeppy | I like the two different graveyards you can rez in for Coilfang. The one right there, in Orebor, or the one all the way out at the Cenarion Expedition. |
| 16:42.28 | Codayus | Gah, SSC corpse runs = teh suck. |
| 16:42.32 | Rallion | As an alliance player, I'd have to say that my least favorite zone in the whole game is Thousand Needles... |
| 16:42.46 | art3mis | i like shimmering flats |
| 16:42.51 | art3mis | its so perty at night |
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| 16:42.58 | Codayus | Rallion: Hmm, actually, I like it; I almost always hit it with my alts. Just the shimmering flat bit. |
| 16:42.58 | Lopeppeppy | I didn't do any of the Kalimdor quest lines, even on my NE. I can't run for that long in straight lines.... just can't. |
| 16:43.16 | Lopeppeppy | Once I get my mount, no problem... but not the 20-40 range, can't hack it. |
| 16:43.27 | Codayus | Great quests at the race track. Basically, go out, kill everything, come back, turnin 6 quests in one go. |
| 16:44.04 | Lopeppeppy | True... I did those with my hunter, but it was a lark when she was picking up the Carrot Quest for ZF. |
| 16:44.11 | zenzelezz | I think I like most of the forest zones... Ashenvale was pretty cool too on my orc |
| 16:44.48 | Codayus | I kinda liked Westfall, but the design was a little boring... |
| 16:44.53 | art3mis | cant stand the forest places |
| 16:45.02 | Codayus | ...plus, I burnt out on it about 6 alts ago from doing the deadmines chain. |
| 16:45.13 | art3mis | i usually have my zone a fair distance out and even a little leaf would screw with it |
| 16:45.28 | Rallion | doing the alliance voidwalker quest sucks |
| 16:45.34 | art3mis | or somehow i'd be on one side of a tree fighting asnd my camera would be pointed at said tree |
| 16:45.43 | Codayus | Still, it's a fun zone. It's got pirates, ghosts, bandits, fun side quests, mines, beaches...fun. |
| 16:46.21 | Lopeppeppy | I never once, on 6 characters, got any of the Captain Sanders things from Westfall. |
| 16:46.29 | Rallion | hah. |
| 16:46.44 | Codayus | Oh! |
| 16:46.46 | Codayus | And robots. |
| 16:46.53 | Codayus | Can't go wrong with robots. |
| 16:46.57 | zenzelezz | I don't know if it's just because it was my first starting zone, but I actually like The Barrens |
| 16:47.09 | Codayus | In fact, if Westfall just had some ninjas to go with the pirates and robots...it'd be perfect. |
| 16:47.15 | art3mis | too much running in the barrens |
| 16:47.25 | art3mis | i hated it for that |
| 16:47.40 | Codayus | I think they added a couple flight points recently...when I tried the barrens, there was one. Ick. |
| 16:47.42 | Rallion | barrens makes me die inside. |
| 16:48.04 | zenzelezz | there are still only two flight paths |
| 16:48.11 | art3mis | 3 |
| 16:48.12 | zenzelezz | not 47 like that awesome fake patch notes said |
| 16:48.19 | zenzelezz | Ratchet doesn't count |
| 16:48.24 | Codayus | 47 would be a good start. |
| 16:48.25 | art3mis | xroads camp t and rachet |
| 16:48.25 | zenzelezz | that's filthy gnomes |
| 16:48.30 | zenzelezz | *goblins |
| 16:48.31 | Codayus | Heh |
| 16:48.33 | zenzelezz | I r lose |
| 16:49.06 | zenzelezz | Ratchet is really just an alliance flight path |
| 16:49.42 | zenzelezz | on my first char I ran everywhere for the first 20 levels to save money |
| 16:49.47 | Rallion | i hate having to go to ratchet |
| 16:50.29 | Intangir | Codayus: westfall does have ninjas |
| 16:50.31 | art3mis | i hate all those travel around quests |
| 16:50.35 | Intangir | ninja bandits ;) |
| 16:50.45 | Codayus | Intangir: Ah? Hmm |
| 16:50.45 | Intangir | also the guy ontop of that boat is clearly wearing a ninja outfit |
| 16:50.53 | Codayus | ....agreed. |
| 16:50.56 | Lopeppeppy | And his little friends are too! |
| 16:50.58 | Codayus | I knew there was a reason Westfall rocked. |
| 16:51.01 | Intangir | lol |
| 16:51.04 | Intangir | ya they are arent they? |
| 16:51.05 | Codayus | Also, Deadmines rocks. |
| 16:51.07 | Intangir | and they are stealthed |
| 16:51.09 | art3mis | before campt and rachet flights you'd turn something in in campt have to run to xroads then to rachet then to northern barrens then to xroads then to rachhet then back down to campt |
| 16:51.10 | Intangir | stealth ninja |
| 16:51.10 | Rallion | somebody should make a family circus style picture of all the travel involved in the Linkin chain |
| 16:51.12 | Codayus | I love the scripted fights. |
| 16:51.17 | Codayus | WTB: Heroic deadmines. |
| 16:51.40 | Intangir | there was taht one guard |
| 16:51.43 | zenzelezz | when I got the quest to go from Kalimdor to Sepulcher I hadn't been to Eastern Kingdoms... ended up in Stranglethorn, took the "boat" back and ditched the quest |
| 16:51.45 | Intangir | mr .. pwned or something ;) |
| 16:51.46 | Intangir | hehehe |
| 16:51.46 | Codayus | The cannon/doors/ramp/smite thing is fun. |
| 16:51.57 | art3mis | heh |
| 16:52.03 | Intangir | mr smited |
| 16:52.09 | Intangir | mr smite ;) |
| 16:52.10 | art3mis | stranglethorn is a hideous zone too |
| 16:52.16 | Intangir | but it has pirates |
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| 16:52.17 | art3mis | too much foiliage |
| 16:52.37 | Codayus | Actually the problem with STV is simple. Too many trolls. |
| 16:52.37 | Lopeppeppy | My best friend did some weird over the mountains thing to get from Ironforge to Stormwind, he didn't follow paths. It was hilarious to hear him talk about it later... |
| 16:52.41 | Codayus | I don't like trolls. |
| 16:53.09 | Codayus | I wish ZA was going to be an undead themed zone. Or another gnome theme zone. Or something. |
| 16:53.25 | Intangir | i hate gnomes |
| 16:53.29 | Rallion | getting from IF to SW isn't fun or easy |
| 16:53.42 | Intangir | theres this tram you know |
| 16:53.48 | Rallion | besides the tram :P |
| 16:54.09 | Rallion | I actually made the trip once before there was a tram! |
| 16:54.26 | zenzelezz | does anyone have a reasonable explanation as to how Kael'thas and his friends became several times as large as the rest of the blood elves? |
| 16:54.37 | Codayus | They ate their greens. |
| 16:55.09 | zenzelezz | that doesn't quite explain a 30 foot difference in height |
| 16:55.16 | Codayus | ...failed experiment? Sucessful experiment? Uh... |
| 16:55.18 | art3mis | the energies of the netherland warped thier bodies, infusing them with great strengths, power and size |
| 16:55.40 | Codayus | TK is actually a Draenei space ship. When Kael hijacked it he didn't quite understand what the different rooms were for. |
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| 16:55.49 | Codayus | Unfortunately, he set up headquarters in the drive chamber. |
| 16:56.07 | Codayus | The radiation caused a sudden and inexplicable mutation. |
| 16:56.10 | art3mis | or they're just those blower powered silly arm balloon things and the real BEs are hiding around corners. |
| 16:56.20 | Srosh | They got infused with demonic energies. |
| 16:56.34 | Codayus | Actually, didn't Kael cut a deal with the Legion? |
| 16:56.38 | Codayus | Yeah, that'd work. |
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| 16:57.08 | art3mis | one of them invented a Ego->Size spell ;) |
| 16:57.17 | Codayus | Now, the REAL question is - why are we fighting Vashj? What is she doing down there? Why do we care? Where did all the other bosses come from? |
| 16:57.19 | zenzelezz | I'm also curious why they built a robot that couldn't fit through the entrance |
| 16:57.43 | art3mis | zenzelezz: incase it went berserk and they needed to run away from it ;) |
| 16:58.01 | Codayus | My working theory is that Vashj is trying to build an indoor swimming pool, but failed to get a building permit from the local council. We're a team of overly agressive building inspectors trying to ensure she complies with the building codes. |
| 16:58.13 | |Jelly| | rofl |
| 16:58.15 | Srosh | Because she's draining the water from the Zangarmarsh and thus endangering the natural balance. |
| 16:58.16 | art3mis | hahaha |
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| 16:58.42 | Codayus | This doesn't really explain the presence of a demon hunter though. Or a giant. Or Lurker... |
| 16:58.47 | art3mis | didnt vashj setup a deal with illi for the servitude of the naga? |
| 16:59.08 | Srosh | Well, the Lurker could've just lived there. |
| 16:59.09 | art3mis | cody: all swimming pool locker rooms have lurkers ;) |
| 16:59.14 | zenzelezz | well, when she dies she apologizes to Illidan |
| 16:59.24 | Codayus | Srosh: Pft, Zangarmarsh sucks. If she wants the place she can have it as far as I'm concerned... |
| 16:59.52 | Codayus | I mean, I can understand why the CE has their organic cotton knickers in a twist...but... |
| 16:59.56 | Intangir | but what about all my mushrooms? |
| 17:01.10 | Lopeppeppy | The fungi have a right to live in peace. Even when they walk around all funny like they do. |
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| 17:25.14 | zenzelezz | I really need to quit carrying 180 bandages everywhere |
| 17:27.24 | Valaron|Work | You might get hurt a lot. |
| 17:27.57 | zenzelezz | nah, I've been doing this since I hit 60 or before, and I never go below six stacks... usually eight or nine |
| 17:28.15 | Lopeppeppy | 180 is... a lot. I carry minimum 20, maximum of 40. I find it funny to run up and bandage the tank during the Evocation phase of Curator. |
| 17:28.37 | zenzelezz | I bandage people during nature phase on Hydross (since I'm frost phase tank) |
| 17:28.51 | Lopeppeppy | "Why are you bandaging me?!?" ---"Because my blue rage bar isn't endless, noob, be grateful I did anything at all!" |
| 17:29.14 | |Jelly| | You're a paladin and your blue rage bar isn't endless? |
| 17:29.37 | Lopeppeppy | Well... deep, but not endless, especially with noobtanks. |
| 17:29.44 | Mr_Rabies2 | bwahahaha |
| 17:29.54 | Mr_Rabies2 | i just ran driver cleaner on my sound card drivers that were supposed to be uninstalled |
| 17:29.55 | Mr_Rabies2 | that |
| 17:29.57 | Mr_Rabies2 | was hilarious |
| 17:30.00 | Shirik | Lopeppeppy: Better question |
| 17:30.04 | Shirik | wtf is the tank doing during evocate? |
| 17:30.14 | Mr_Rabies2 | probably near 2000 odd reg entries and files and shit |
| 17:30.20 | zenzelezz | spamming 100 rage worth of pew pew |
| 17:30.28 | Shirik | and what |
| 17:30.31 | Lopeppeppy | Usually remaining beatin' on the Curator. I don't pay much attention to what he's doing right then, sadly. |
| 17:30.31 | Shirik | getting 400 crits? |
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| 17:30.39 | Shirik | he should be bandaging himself |
| 17:30.49 | Lopeppeppy | Boyo should be bandaging himself and a few melee... but like I said, nooblet. |
| 17:30.50 | Shirik | it's not like the lack of his dps is going to do much |
| 17:30.53 | zenzelezz | my Shield Slam hits for 500 normal, 1000 crit |
| 17:30.58 | zenzelezz | add evocation and that is a lot |
| 17:31.06 | Shirik | 1k 2k? |
| 17:31.08 | zenzelezz | give me Execute and I do sick damage |
| 17:31.14 | Codayus | Loss of threat could...and during evocate, even healers do nice damage. |
| 17:31.18 | geno-afk | :o |
| 17:31.22 | geno-afk | a warrior with both warglaives |
| 17:31.25 | Shirik | If the tank loses threat there's another problem |
| 17:31.26 | geno-afk | This is madness! |
| 17:31.51 | zenzelezz | I hope you mean loses aggro |
| 17:31.56 | Shirik | yes |
| 17:31.57 | zenzelezz | because losing threat is pretty hard for warriors |
| 17:32.04 | Shirik | I just copied what Codayus was saying without thinking |
| 17:32.23 | Shirik | but it is a good point to make that loss of threat on a warrior does imply a problem |
| 17:32.25 | zenzelezz | you're still right, there would be a major problem if the tank was losing threat :) |
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| 17:33.14 | Codayus | Heh, I've seen it happen. Warlock trying to be the soaker - they were a bit worried about their threat being too low. |
| 17:33.28 | zenzelezz | don't mix threat and aggro |
| 17:33.35 | Codayus | So cancelled salv, and went a bit nuts. Pulled aggro during an evocate. |
| 17:33.44 | zenzelezz | but warlocks and shadow priests skyrocket in threat during evocation |
| 17:34.29 | Codayus | And yeah, when I said "losing threat" I was, of course, meaing "losing the opportunity to generate threat". Seemed like too much typing. |
| 17:34.41 | zenzelezz | I remember when we first reached Curator, used arcane resist on offtank so healing would be sufficient... now he seems like such a wimp |
| 17:35.50 | Codayus | We still use arcane resist for the soaker if anyone remembers to bring it. Saves on healing. Then again, we run with 2 healers, and often a lot of alts, so... |
| 17:36.13 | zenzelezz | no-one in my current guild seems to even have AR |
| 17:36.39 | Lopeppeppy | We tend to use at least SOME arcane resist on the hateful bolt tank. If we don't set someone up to be it, very specifically, it always winds up falling on my shoulders... and it sucks to be the main healer sucking up hateful bolts. |
| 17:37.00 | zenzelezz | we have an offtank, he just doesn't wear resistance |
| 17:37.18 | Codayus | We always designate a soaker to pick up hateful bolts, and if he's got resist gear there's normally no reason not to wear it... |
| 17:37.28 | zenzelezz | of course |
| 17:37.34 | zenzelezz | I'd still use it if I was offtanking |
| 17:37.47 | Codayus | ...heh, I was talking to a new recruit who said his ex guild used arcane resist... |
| 17:37.50 | Codayus | .....on everyone. |
| 17:38.01 | zenzelezz | ouch |
| 17:38.10 | zenzelezz | must have had rogues with 200 DPS then |
| 17:39.03 | Codayus | She'd never seen curator killed. |
| 17:39.50 | zenzelezz | poor gal |
| 17:40.03 | Codayus | Apparently they were handling the spawns, but kept hitting the enrage timer.. |
| 17:40.16 | Shirik | no kidding |
| 17:40.51 | zenzelezz | at what percept, 90? :-p |
| 17:40.53 | zenzelezz | percent |
| 17:41.06 | Codayus | See, that's why it's nice to recruit from players further behind you in progression. You get to laugh at their mistakes, but they won't recognize your mistakes. :-) |
| 17:41.10 | zenzelezz | think I only saw him enrage once, for about 10 seconds... was almost entirely alts in the raid |
| 17:41.38 | Shirik | uh |
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| 17:41.49 | Shirik | he does enrage at low health too... 15%? |
| 17:41.57 | Shirik | so I do hope you've seen him enrage more than that |
| 17:41.59 | zenzelezz | soft-enrage |
| 17:42.01 | Codayus | Different mechanic. |
| 17:42.05 | Lopeppeppy | That's when he stops dropping sprites, which is a good-thing. |
| 17:42.10 | zenzelezz | not the pew-pew-you-all-die enrage |
| 17:42.31 | Codayus | Ah, enrage at 15%, berserk at 10 minutes. |
| 17:42.31 | Lopeppeppy | I've killed Illhoof myself after his enrage... it wasn't pretty, but I did it! Huzzah Exorcism. |
| 17:42.47 | Codayus | Berserk gives all raid members an unremovable debuff which increases arcane damage taken by 500%. |
| 17:43.01 | Codayus | According to wowwiki. Not fun. |
| 17:43.17 | zenzelezz | http://www.wowbash.com/image-374.html -- lol |
| 17:43.18 | Codayus | Whereas yeah, his normal low health enrage makes him easier. :-) |
| 17:43.42 | zenzelezz | 15% enrage is just permanent evocation damage and quicker hateful bolts IIRC |
| 17:44.12 | Mr_Rabies2 | hey, you limey-i mean you folks from the uk, where do you order your pc parts from online? :o |
| 17:44.26 | Mr_Rabies2 | got a friend on another irc network looking for reputable sites online |
| 17:44.29 | Codayus | No more flares, faster bolts, increased melee attack speed. Pretty sure he loses the evocation debuff. (Although he sometimes bugs oddly if you hit enrage during an evocate, which we usually do.) |
| 17:44.59 | Codayus | Er...I meant to say, I'm pretty sure he doesn't gain the evocation debuff. |
| 17:45.30 | Tuller | oh man, I meant to make that website |
| 17:45.45 | zenzelezz | Mr_Rabies: I'm not actually UK, but I hear they have Komplett.co.uk or something |
| 17:46.00 | zenzelezz | Codayus: I think he takes way more damage also |
| 17:46.30 | Codayus | I think it's just because with no flares all the DPS can open up on him... *shrug* Don't suppose it matters either way. |
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| 17:46.55 | Codayus | zenzelezz: Agoraphobia. ZOMG. |
| 17:47.23 | Codayus | At least the GM has a sense of humor. |
| 17:47.29 | zenzelezz | the only way I could get a 13'000 Execute is if he's weakened, he has to take more damage |
| 17:48.12 | Codayus | Could be a bug, but your right, somehow you must have got the evocate debuff to stick. |
| 17:48.34 | zenzelezz | well the wiki says he doesn't *cancel* it, maybe he just keeps it if you hit 15% during evocation |
| 17:49.18 | Codayus | I've seen him do odd things if he enrages during evocate. |
| 17:49.34 | Codayus | Once he kept summoning flares during enrage, which was odd. |
| 17:49.41 | Codayus | *shrug* |
| 17:50.54 | zenzelezz | bosses bug occasionally, just like other mobs. Had Leotheras *not* reset once... so raid was scattered throughout SSC, all dead |
| 17:51.06 | Codayus | Ick |
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| 17:52.16 | zenzelezz | someone remind me to link this to Thunder_Child: http://www.wowbash.com/image-351.html |
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| 17:55.19 | deltron | zenzelezz: linky |
| 17:57.46 | Codayus | Okay... THIS is a recruiting message. |
| 17:57.48 | Codayus | http://www.wowbash.com/image-58.html |
| 17:58.35 | Cairenn | lol |
| 17:58.51 | zenzelezz | haha |
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| 18:09.05 | |Jelly| | ~whalestab Thunder_Child |
| 18:09.06 | purl | ACTION stabs Thunder_Child with a rather narrow and pointy whale named Montgomery |
| 18:09.19 | Thunder_Child | ~whaleparry |Jelly| |
| 18:09.20 | purl | ACTION uses a slightly less-huge but eminently more agile killer whale named Edwardo to parry |Jelly|'s attacks. |
| 18:09.28 | Thunder_Child | ~whalecrit |Jelly| |
| 18:09.29 | purl | ACTION crits |Jelly| with a mathematically skilled whale named Isaac for #NaN. |Jelly| dies |
| 18:12.50 | zenzelezz | Thunder_Child, just for you: http://www.wowbash.com/image-351.html |
| 18:12.57 | Kaydeethree | woo hoo |
| 18:13.05 | Kaydeethree | the 25th is patch day |
| 18:13.51 | |Jelly| | Official? |
| 18:13.57 | Thunder_Child | ~lart zenzelezz |
| 18:13.57 | purl | crushes zenzelezz with a full height scsi disk |
| 18:14.01 | Kaydeethree | ptr just closed down |
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| 18:14.22 | |Jelly| | So much for my five Kara keys. lol |
| 18:14.27 | Shirik|Ecole | ?! |
| 18:14.35 | |Jelly| | What? |
| 18:14.36 | Shirik|Ecole | why do you have five? |
| 18:14.49 | |Jelly| | Cause I had five premades that I got it with? |
| 18:15.53 | |Jelly| | For those that wanna call me a liar cause of the 4 limit per account, remember that I have four accounts. <3 |
| 18:16.16 | Kaydeethree | hardly. |
| 18:16.21 | Punkie` | does anyone watch numb3rs? |
| 18:16.24 | zenzelezz | four is not less than three Jelly |
| 18:16.35 | Kaydeethree | they gave a total of 12 premades if you were on the PTR early enough |
| 18:16.43 | Thunder_Child | i do Punkie` |
| 18:16.43 | |Jelly| | Touché Zenzelezz. |
| 18:16.59 | |Jelly| | Well, I don't watch the PTR like you do, Kaydeethree! :P |
| 18:17.08 | Punkie` | Thunder_Child: What did you think of s3 finale? :D |
| 18:17.18 | Shirik|Ecole | I wish I had multiple accounts |
| 18:17.23 | Shirik|Ecole | it woul make debugging so much easier |
| 18:17.33 | Shirik|Ecole | I also wish I had a working "D" key |
| 18:17.59 | Thunder_Child | he was still a good person |
| 18:18.24 | |Jelly| | I'll help you debug, Shirik. :P |
| 18:18.43 | Thunder_Child | Punkie`, i suppose it was ok, but something a little more shocking would have been nice |
| 18:19.12 | Punkie` | what! |
| 18:19.16 | Punkie` | it was totally shocking |
| 18:19.25 | Punkie` | i never saw it coming :P |
| 18:19.34 | Thunder_Child | thats surprise not shock |
| 18:20.45 | Punkie` | well ok |
| 18:21.00 | Punkie` | but they solve crimes with the power of math |
| 18:21.03 | Punkie` | they can't have everything |
| 18:21.34 | Thunder_Child | sure they can, where is the ep where the numbers try to eat him? |
| 18:21.56 | Thunder_Child | you know, jump off the chalkboard and eat him |
| 18:22.21 | Punkie` | nah, that would ruin the show :< |
| 18:22.42 | Thunder_Child | prolly, but i am sure i could find shocking |
| 18:22.54 | Thunder_Child | that would be harmonious |
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| 18:26.26 | |Jelly| | !c us burning legion linzeth |
| 18:26.29 | ThraeBot | |Jelly|: Linzeth, Level 70 Night Elf Druid (1/43/17). 9064 HP; 6020 Mana; 119 mana regen; 28 mp5; 4260 Armour; 1142 AP; 163.600 Melee DPS; 20.43% melee crit; 116 melee hit; 168 +heal; 26.53% dodge; 179 resilience; 10 nature resist (+10); +25 all resists (+10 nature);[[ TBR: 1191 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/2zhfwa ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/2j6c4j ][ Updated: Thu Sep 20 14:40:19 2007 EST ]] |
| 18:27.21 | cog|work | lua> strsplit(",","hi,bye") |
| 18:27.21 | cladbot | cog|work: hi, bye, |
| 18:27.33 | cog|work | lua> strsplit(",","hibye") |
| 18:27.33 | cladbot | cog|work: hibye, |
| 18:28.46 | cog|work | >>> strsplit(",","hibye") |
| 18:28.46 | Cide | cog|work: "hibye" |
| 18:28.52 | Intangir | !c us Mug'thol intangir |
| 18:28.54 | ThraeBot | Intangir: Intangir, Level 70 Undead Rogue (23/0/38). 6084 HP; 673 AP; 12.62% melee crit; 10 melee hit; 8.17% dodge; 70 resilience; 10 shadow resist (+10);[[ TBR: 1061 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/2gspj4 ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/33amuq ][ Updated: Thu Sep 20 14:42:43 2007 EST ]] |
| 18:29.13 | Intangir | lol |
| 18:29.15 | cog|work | clad|packing: your lua bot adds an extra comma to the end of the output :P |
| 18:29.31 | Intangir | thats naked |
| 18:29.43 | Intangir | thats gotta be naked.. |
| 18:29.51 | Intangir | wow it does the tinyurl for it too thats nuts |
| 18:30.22 | Intangir | it submits multiple tinyurl things for every query? |
| 18:30.45 | Intangir | whats TBR mean? |
| 18:31.00 | Thunder_Child | ~tbr |
| 18:31.01 | purl | hmm... tbr is ThraeBot Ratings -- a ThraeBot innovation. Working on a PvP-oriented weighted algorithm for what stats the Armoury currently has for your character, partially modified by build-type, it can be used to pit two characters in TBR vs TBR combat, and tries try to take into account which classes are fighting. (or "to be released") |
| 18:31.47 | Intangir | hrm weird? |
| 18:32.01 | Thunder_Child | not reallyt |
| 18:32.04 | Intangir | does it weight it by |
| 18:32.12 | Intangir | like res/stam? lifetime kills? ratings? |
| 18:32.28 | Thunder_Child | hmm..there is something that teslls you..cant remeber |
| 18:32.32 | Thunder_Child | !tbr |
| 18:32.40 | Thunder_Child | !help |
| 18:33.06 | Intangir | id hope mine would be higher with my gear on |
| 18:33.50 | Intangir | !c eu Hakkar Memimetizzo |
| 18:33.52 | ThraeBot | Intangir: Memimetizzo, Level 70 Undead Rogue (23/0/38). 9894 HP; 3557 Armour; 2258 AP; 388.300 Melee DPS; 30.30% melee crit; 187 melee hit; 22.97% dodge; 49 resilience; 55 shadow resist (+10); +25 all resists (+10 shadow);[[ TBR: 1388 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/yts5cj ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/2w79zq ][ Updated: Thu Sep 20 14:47:42 2007 EST ]] |
| 18:33.57 | clad|packing | cog|work: yes, it does :P |
| 18:34.50 | Intangir | 49 resiliance.. wtf |
| 18:36.06 | deltron | probably using arena MH/OH combo |
| 18:36.25 | Intangir | im surprised its so low |
| 18:36.30 | Intangir | that guys ratings are all huge |
| 18:36.35 | Intangir | like over 2000 in all of them |
| 18:36.42 | Intangir | 5th highest 2v2, was 1st for a while |
| 18:36.47 | Intangir | that guys spec is almost the same as me |
| 18:37.10 | Intangir | id love to see how he plays it with that much higher of a rating.. |
| 18:37.32 | Intangir | oh sweet, there is a movie of him on warcraft movies ;) |
| 18:38.23 | foxlit | Hm, who did I give a cookie to for providing me with a BLP1 image from WC3? |
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| 18:39.43 | Shirik|Ecole | foxlit: AnduinLothar I think |
| 18:39.54 | Mr_Rabies2 | http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/wrath/images/screenshots/ss23-hires.jpg |
| 18:39.54 | Shirik|Ecole | no wait |
| 18:39.56 | Shirik|Ecole | Thunder_Child ? |
| 18:39.58 | Shirik|Ecole | I forget =( |
| 18:40.01 | foxlit | Hm, I was thinking Tem? |
| 18:40.01 | Mr_Rabies2 | the hell is this D: |
| 18:40.04 | Shirik|Ecole | maybe |
| 18:40.05 | foxlit | Maybe TC |
| 18:40.06 | Shirik|Ecole | I forgot T_T |
| 18:40.13 | Mr_Rabies2 | foxlit, i could possibly do it if you know what file it is |
| 18:40.16 | Mr_Rabies2 | oh |
| 18:40.19 | Mr_Rabies2 | you already got it |
| 18:40.21 | Mr_Rabies2 | provided to you |
| 18:40.22 | Mr_Rabies2 | i see |
| 18:40.47 | foxlit | I wanted to know what it's supposed to look like if extracted |
| 18:42.59 | Mr_Rabies2 | seriously though |
| 18:43.00 | Mr_Rabies2 | what |
| 18:43.12 | Mr_Rabies2 | is this thing, it's like a dryad meets a draenei :O |
| 18:43.16 | Mr_Rabies2 | http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/wrath/images/screenshots/ss23-hires.jpg |
| 18:44.12 | Mr_Rabies2 | and there's one of those "tree spirit dryads" that someone had on wowwiki on the dryad article :o |
| 18:44.18 | Intangir | whats that hires pic? |
| 18:44.51 | Mr_Rabies2 | http://www.wowwiki.com/Image:Aessina.jpg |
| 18:45.01 | Mr_Rabies2 | it's one of the wotlk screens, Intangir |
| 18:45.15 | Mr_Rabies2 | i have no clue what the creature is in the screenshot other than a relative of the dryads |
| 18:45.50 | Intangir | its a death knight ;) |
| 18:45.54 | Intangir | cant you tell? |
| 18:46.02 | Intangir | oh you thought they would be big bad and scary looking ;) |
| 18:46.13 | Intangir | no they are cutesy dryads ;) |
| 18:47.14 | Mr_Rabies2 | http://www.wowwiki.com/Image:Dryad_WoW_.png |
| 18:47.17 | Mr_Rabies2 | that's a dryad :o |
| 18:47.29 | Mr_Rabies2 | i dunno about that thing up there other than either a relative or an updated model :o |
| 18:48.41 | Intangir | is it safe for work? |
| 18:49.16 | Mr_Rabies2 | yes |
| 18:49.22 | Mr_Rabies2 | it's not a classical fantasy dryad |
| 18:49.31 | Mr_Rabies2 | it's a wow dryad |
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| 18:50.49 | Kirkburn | If not known, 2.2 has finished testing |
| 18:51.17 | Kaydeethree | hi2u getting the patch pushed live, finally |
| 18:51.40 | cog|work | Is there a constant for the number of inventory slots in the paper doll frame? |
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| 18:52.04 | Intangir | what? |
| 18:52.05 | Intangir | what patch? |
| 18:52.09 | cog|work | 2.2 |
| 18:52.15 | Intangir | right now? or tuesday? |
| 18:52.19 | cog|work | Coming to a tuesday near you |
| 18:52.19 | Kaydeethree | tuesday |
| 18:52.22 | Intangir | shit |
| 18:52.25 | Intangir | the sound fucks up on linux |
| 18:52.32 | cog|work | shit |
| 18:52.33 | Kaydeethree | negative, get updates to your copy of wine |
| 18:52.33 | Intangir | the whole client runs slower |
| 18:52.37 | cog|work | i never updated cogsbar |
| 18:52.47 | Kirkburn | (Via http://www.mmo-champion.com/index.php?topic=1246.0 ) |
| 18:52.56 | Intangir | last version i tried the sound DOES work, but it just seems to make the entire game choppier |
| 18:53.03 | Intangir | the sound sounds drastically different too |
| 18:53.06 | Kaydeethree | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=1778019796&sid=1 |
| 18:53.10 | Kaydeethree | @ kirk ^ |
| 18:53.19 | Mr_Rabies2 | hrm |
| 18:53.20 | Intangir | seems to be more obvious with the directional sound |
| 18:53.37 | Mr_Rabies2 | anyone know of any surround sound programmy checky things |
| 18:53.38 | Mr_Rabies2 | :o |
| 18:53.39 | Intangir | which sounds neat |
| 18:53.43 | Intangir | but it just seems choppier all around |
| 18:53.57 | Intangir | i tried doing arena on there and it was eratic |
| 18:54.05 | Intangir | i hope its been polished |
| 18:54.14 | Intangir | or im going to have to upgrade or something.. |
| 18:54.30 | Kaydeethree | what build of wine are you using? |
| 18:54.34 | Intangir | let me check |
| 18:54.51 | Intangir | 0.9.45 |
| 18:54.59 | Intangir | oh also it crashes on exit |
| 18:55.06 | Intangir | on the live version even |
| 18:55.13 | Intangir | the newer version of wine seems to have caused it |
| 18:55.14 | Kaydeethree | ya. should hopefully be getting fixed in 46 |
| 18:55.22 | Kaydeethree | it's been crashing since 44 |
| 18:55.25 | Intangir | ya |
| 18:55.50 | Intangir | damn i sure hope they polished up that sound code alot more.. |
| 18:55.58 | Intangir | cause it was really not too good ;( |
| 18:56.01 | Shirik|Ecole | heh |
| 18:56.03 | Kaydeethree | yell at the fmodex guys |
| 18:56.04 | Shirik|Ecole | ugliest script ever: /script ChatFrame1[ChatFrame1:IsShown() and "Hide" or "Show"](ChatFrame1) |
| 18:56.07 | Intangir | i mean, sounded good, just.. ran badly |
| 18:56.12 | Intangir | fmodex? |
| 18:56.19 | Kaydeethree | that's the sound system wow's using |
| 18:56.24 | Intangir | the new one? |
| 18:56.26 | Kaydeethree | yes |
| 18:56.39 | Intangir | is the test server still running? with the version they will go live with? |
| 18:56.46 | Kaydeethree | it went down earlier |
| 18:56.52 | Kaydeethree | last build was 7272 |
| 18:56.59 | Intangir | oh man i sure hope it doesnt suck.. |
| 18:57.36 | Kirkburn | What a strange thing to hope :P |
| 18:58.04 | Kirkburn | No doubt 2.3 will be on the test realms almost immediately |
| 18:58.12 | Kaydeethree | no joke |
| 18:58.29 | Kirkburn | I'm wondering why they're take the test realms down today |
| 18:58.32 | Kaydeethree | I just reworded the Getting on the Test Realm guide to be version-agnostic, it should be coming very shortly |
| 18:58.40 | Kaydeethree | poke someone in QA? |
| 18:58.48 | Intangir | whats 2.3 gonna be ? |
| 18:58.54 | Intangir | this version coming out has vent built in right? |
| 18:58.54 | Kirkburn | Zul'Aman and more |
| 18:58.58 | Kaydeethree | zul'aman among other thigns |
| 18:59.14 | Kirkburn | The delay on 2.2 has meant more stuff will be in 2.3 than intended |
| 18:59.15 | foxlit | Does this render properly: |
| 18:59.16 | foxlit | http://vector.digifort.com/Hero_BloodElf.jpg |
| 18:59.21 | Kaydeethree | 2.2 has voice chat, see http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=1602361123&sid=1 for info |
| 18:59.28 | Kirkburn | foxlit, IE7, I get nothing |
| 18:59.41 | Kaydeethree | foxlit, The image “http://vector.digifort.com/Hero_BloodElf.jpg” cannot be displayed, because it contains errors. fx 2.0.0.6 |
| 18:59.48 | Kirkburn | FF 2.0.0.7, same |
| 18:59.56 | foxlit | Interesting |
| 19:00.01 | Intangir | oh weak. .;) |
| 19:00.07 | Intangir | it wont even have voice chat on every server at first? |
| 19:00.11 | foxlit | Safari gives an odd version, windows explorer reads it semi-correctly |
| 19:00.32 | Kirkburn | Intangir, no, so they can deal with issues more easily |
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| 19:00.41 | Kaydeethree | they've gotta make sure the servers are stable first and foremost. voice chat is on different hardware, it can be enbaled/disabled indepently of the game servers |
| 19:00.42 | Kirkburn | 2.2 is a major change |
| 19:00.54 | Kirkburn | (sound-wise) |
| 19:00.59 | Intangir | ya |
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| 19:01.04 | Cidan | brand new FMOD engine |
| 19:01.45 | Intangir | it should show some indication of whos talking in game |
| 19:01.46 | Intangir | does it? |
| 19:01.48 | Intangir | i havent tried it yet |
| 19:01.51 | Intangir | that would be neat |
| 19:01.53 | Kaydeethree | yes, it's pretty neat |
| 19:01.57 | foxlit | woah |
| 19:01.58 | Intangir | sweet |
| 19:02.02 | Intangir | no more guessing whos talking to you |
| 19:02.04 | foxlit | Firefox on OSx doesn't look atrocious |
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| 19:02.55 | Intangir | was it working for you on wine? |
| 19:02.59 | Kaydeethree | foxlit, this is what gimp sees after I resaved it as a .png http://images.gammatester.com/pics/dbe309c3b126968fbdeb80c3b984f7b9.png |
| 19:03.04 | Kaydeethree | I don't have a mic, so I didn't test it |
| 19:03.11 | Intangir | but you could hear right |
| 19:03.15 | Kaydeethree | ya |
| 19:03.22 | Intangir | cool |
| 19:03.28 | foxlit | Kaydeethree: that's what Windows suggests it is as well |
| 19:03.29 | Intangir | hope it works, vent works.. |
| 19:03.40 | foxlit | But I wonder what's up with the browsers |
| 19:03.43 | foxlit | Does gimp whine? |
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| 19:04.09 | Kaydeethree | lemme run it from a shell and see |
| 19:04.29 | Kaydeethree | nope |
| 19:04.40 | Punkie` | foxlit: I can see an image on that link in Opera |
| 19:05.07 | Punkie` | it just looks like a load of jumbled images though |
| 19:07.16 | Intangir | ya that voice chat is gonna be neat |
| 19:07.22 | Intangir | brb |
| 19:08.44 | zenzelezz | 3/4 generators down... now if people would just stop dying |
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| 19:10.39 | Intangir | what are you talking about? |
| 19:11.07 | zenzelezz | Vashj |
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| 19:16.33 | Intangir | http://intangir.soulfire.cc/00110413.jpg |
| 19:16.37 | Intangir | http://intangir.soulfire.cc/10740635.jpg |
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| 19:33.03 | Kaydeethree | gack, the end of the world is nigh... 1 CAD = 1 USD |
| 19:37.40 | zenzelezz | the UK pound is twice the US dollar, it amuses me |
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| 19:42.50 | Srosh | !c eu forscherliga aridela |
| 19:42.53 | ThraeBot | Srosh: Aridela, Level 70 Undead Warlock (41/3/17). 10540 HP; 8110 Mana; 116 mana regen; 170 spell crit; 29 spell hit; 701 +spell dmg; 179 frost dmg (880); 179 shadow dmg (880); 4.43% dodge; 39 resilience; 10 shadow resist (+10);[[ TBR: 1187 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/yq9vrw ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/2ljlwv ][ Updated: Thu Sep 20 15:56:43 2007 EST ]] |
| 19:50.54 | Saint-N | boobies yay! \o/ |
| 19:51.45 | Valaron|Work | (.) (.) |
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| 19:56.11 | cog|work | :)8-< |
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| 20:02.46 | Osagasu | *sigh* |
| 20:03.09 | Osagasu | I can't figure out how to make Fubar save my positions anymore |
| 20:03.10 | Osagasu | =\ |
| 20:03.25 | Valaron|Work | Anymore? |
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| 20:09.43 | Osagasu | Yeah. Everytime I load warcraft, the positions for my fubar plugins reset |
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| 20:17.15 | Valaron|Work | Is your WTF folder set to Read-Only, or if you're using Vista that your World of Warcraft folder is in Program Files. |
| 20:17.17 | Valaron|Work | ? |
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| 20:18.53 | cog|work | rofl @ tigerclaw http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=1778019796&sid=1&pageNo=2#20 |
| 20:19.18 | Osagasu | It isn't set to read only, I'm using XP AND my folder is in the Profram Files |
| 20:19.22 | Osagasu | **Program |
| 20:22.52 | Lunessa | cog|work: That's... BRILLIANT |
| 20:23.33 | Lunessa | Let me reiterate. BRILLIANT |
| 20:23.59 | Mr_Rabies2 | yeehaw |
| 20:24.19 | Mr_Rabies2 | 2.2 finally this tuesday unless something drastic comes up |
| 20:27.29 | Esamynn | Lunessa: could you reiterate that again, I didn't catch it the first 2 times... |
| 20:27.48 | buu | Oh god |
| 20:28.14 | Lunessa | Esamynn: - Certainly. "Let me reiterate. BRILLIANT" |
| 20:28.26 | Saint-N | once more or posterity? |
| 20:28.28 | Saint-N | for |
| 20:30.33 | Esamynn | ~fail Saint-N |
| 20:30.34 | purl | Saint-N: Fail. |
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| 20:31.49 | Esamynn | ~comfort Saint-N |
| 20:31.50 | purl | There, there, Saint-N. It's OK. I'm here for you. |
| 20:32.19 | Saint-N | thanks purl, i knew you were a real friend, not like these other bastards! |
| 20:32.31 | Esamynn | ~poke Saint-N |
| 20:32.32 | purl | ACTION cuts down a small tree, sneaks up behind Saint-N, pokes Saint-N repeatedly, hilarity ensues. |
| 20:33.05 | Saint-N | noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo |
| 20:33.35 | Lunessa | Saint-N: Sure. "Let me reiterate. BRILLIANT" |
| 20:33.38 | Esamynn | ~botsnack |
| 20:33.38 | purl | Esamynn: :) |
| 20:33.47 | Lunessa | Now you're less "Fail" |
| 20:37.12 | bleeter | lol buncha nubs there complaining 2.2 will be out same days as Halo 3 |
| 20:37.20 | bleeter | or similar crap |
| 20:39.36 | Cidan | How do you get the center x/y of the player screen? |
| 20:39.47 | Cidan | just UIParent:GetCenter()? |
| 20:39.58 | cog|work | WorldFrame i think |
| 20:40.23 | Kaydeethree | v2 of the "How to find stickies" guide has been created... http://img530.imageshack.us/img530/2561/findstickiesv2aq2.jpg |
| 20:40.39 | bleeter | actually, hortus doesn't specifically say it'll be released tuesday, just public testing's ended |
| 20:41.44 | dreamss | bleeter, MS released an update today, if MS mass bans there gonna be much more crying :P |
| 20:41.44 | cog|work | Kaydeethree: you forgot to censor my boobies :P |
| 20:42.04 | Kaydeethree | ha |
| 20:42.53 | bleeter | dreamss: what did MS update? |
| 20:43.21 | foxlit | Decipher the mystery of http://vector.digifort.com/Hero_BloodElf.jpg, get a cookie |
| 20:43.33 | dreamss | baiscly halo3 came out yesterday, MS said its a minor update |
| 20:43.35 | bleeter | The image “http://vector.digifort.com/Hero_BloodElf.jpg” cannot be displayed, because it contains errors. |
| 20:43.39 | dreamss | prolly a ban hammer |
| 20:44.00 | zenzelezz | foxlit: 404? |
| 20:44.01 | Lunessa | cog|work: has stick-figure boobies. |
| 20:44.22 | zenzelezz | oh wait, I see the error... stupid comma :-p |
| 20:44.23 | dreamss | Kay, i like that u make transparency look like a linux only feature :> |
| 20:44.32 | foxlit | zenzelezz: there are no commas at the end of urls := |
| 20:44.41 | zenzelezz | tell that to X-Chat |
| 20:44.50 | zenzelezz | but it's giving errors like bleeter said |
| 20:44.51 | foxlit | Conclusion: X-Chat sucks |
| 20:45.01 | AnduinLothar | Preview displays it, a lot of it is really dark |
| 20:45.03 | bleeter | foxlit++ |
| 20:45.06 | AnduinLothar | but some of it is light |
| 20:45.31 | AnduinLothar | browser fails to display it |
| 20:45.32 | foxlit | Kaydeethree: foxlit, this is what gimp sees after I resaved it as a .png http://images.gammatester.com/pics/dbe309c3b126968fbdeb80c3b984f7b9.png |
| 20:45.32 | zenzelezz | I like X-Chat, and given the alternative are all stupid I don't even care |
| 20:45.36 | foxlit | I think that's the intended render |
| 20:45.44 | foxlit | But what I'd really like to know is what's wrong with the image |
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| 20:46.59 | dreamss | Hero_BloodElf.jpg: JPEG image data, JFIF standard 1.01, comment: "Intel(R) JPEG Library, version " |
| 20:47.03 | dreamss | heh |
| 20:47.10 | AnduinLothar | It's saved CMYK but the black layer looks wrong, like it should be an alpha or not fully black or somehting |
| 20:47.27 | Kaydeethree | it works fine in the gimp, though |
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| 20:47.50 | AnduinLothar | photoshop CS renderes it a bit washed out with a weird black layer |
| 20:48.22 | AnduinLothar | preview renders it with the black layer inverted |
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| 20:50.03 | foxlit | I'm just extracting that jpeg almost directly from a BLP |
| 20:50.25 | AnduinLothar | linkt he source blp |
| 20:50.41 | AnduinLothar | is it blp1 or 2? |
| 20:51.05 | foxlit | 1 |
| 20:51.13 | foxlit | 2 don't contain JPEGs |
| 20:51.48 | foxlit | Change extension on the link to .blp |
| 20:51.55 | AnduinLothar | rly? |
| 20:52.00 | AnduinLothar | >.< |
| 20:52.37 | Mr_Rabies2 | i think i have finally slain the foul beast known as Creative Drivers |
| 20:52.53 | Saint-N | lies! |
| 20:53.14 | Mr_Rabies2 | twas a long battle, and our casualties were high, but honor and virtue have triumphed! |
| 20:53.16 | Mr_Rabies2 | for now... |
| 20:53.54 | dreamss | long live windows restore |
| 20:55.39 | Mr_Rabies2 | argh |
| 20:55.43 | Mr_Rabies2 | we have pops and crackles |
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| 20:55.51 | Mr_Rabies2 | THE WAR IS NOT OVER, MEN |
| 20:56.17 | zenzelezz | now is when you realize it wasn't the drivers, just a fucked sound card |
| 20:56.39 | Mr_Rabies2 | they didn't pop until i updated the drivers |
| 20:56.39 | Mr_Rabies2 | but |
| 20:56.51 | Mr_Rabies2 | i couldn't get any of the 3d sound stuff to work without updating them |
| 20:56.54 | AnduinLothar | if it aint broke |
| 20:56.56 | dreamss | thats bios settings |
| 20:56.57 | bleeter | Mr_Rabies2: I have a solution... |
| 20:56.59 | dreamss | pci errr |
| 20:57.04 | dreamss | whats the setting called? |
| 20:57.16 | bleeter | take two screwdrivers... jam them into your ears. sound problems solved. |
| 20:59.13 | AnduinLothar | owie |
| 20:59.24 | AnduinLothar | no talking bleeter |
| 20:59.32 | Industrial | gnome priest or gtfo ! http://images.gammatester.com/pics/f35ac6472c24b1aa35626c86935927fc.jpg |
| 20:59.56 | Lunessa | cog|work: " My condolences... I wish there was an insomnia that didn't involve being tired all the time... I'd love to never have to sleep " Me too. I suffer from both major forms. I can't get to sleep, nor stay asleep. :P |
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| 21:04.39 | foxlit | AnduinLothar: so what about that blp? |
| 21:04.47 | dreamss | Mr_Rabies2, there a setting on bios that helps with sound blaster cards |
| 21:05.24 | Mr_Rabies2 | sound only seems to pop and crackle in wow |
| 21:05.28 | Mr_Rabies2 | and quake wars |
| 21:05.29 | Mr_Rabies2 | :/ |
| 21:05.39 | dreamss | its due your PCI bus being overloaded |
| 21:05.43 | dreamss | normal issue |
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| 21:06.03 | AnduinLothar | foxlit: didn't learn anything |
| 21:06.11 | dreamss | try moving ur sound card to a diff pci slot |
| 21:06.18 | foxlit | Is it convertable with anything else? |
| 21:07.37 | Mr_Rabies2 | dreamss, i would, but creative drivers are a huge bitch |
| 21:07.47 | dreamss | oh i know |
| 21:07.49 | Mr_Rabies2 | i guess i can try now that i know the proper course of action though |
| 21:07.55 | dreamss | thats why i use onboard sound |
| 21:07.59 | Mr_Rabies2 | i would |
| 21:08.04 | Mr_Rabies2 | but mine's 2.1 and awful |
| 21:08.20 | dreamss | hehe |
| 21:09.13 | Mr_Rabies2 | i think it may be on the same irq as my HDD, actually |
| 21:09.14 | Mr_Rabies2 | :/ |
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| 21:15.29 | Mr_Rabies2 | it's moved, now lets seee how the drivers react |
| 21:17.29 | Mr_Rabies2 | no sound as of now, we'll see by crikey |
| 21:18.01 | foxlit | Hm, the gimp render is also off |
| 21:18.40 | buu | COX |
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| 21:19.17 | Mr_Rabies2 | cox indeed |
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| 21:19.26 | foxlit | Should be red, not blue |
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| 21:21.21 | Arrowmaster | creative sound cards poping and crackling is due to pci bus being overlaoded? hmm i had to stop using my audigy2 because of that but i dont have any other pci cards |
| 21:22.21 | Mr_Rabies2 | i think it's just lame drivers, personally |
| 21:22.35 | Mr_Rabies2 | their drivers are worse than ati |
| 21:22.38 | Arrowmaster | yeah |
| 21:23.17 | Arrowmaster | mine originally started poping and crackling in wow then it started doing it all the time |
| 21:23.18 | sag_ich_nicht | no. |
| 21:23.22 | sag_ich_nicht | it's not just because of that. |
| 21:23.25 | sag_ich_nicht | it's also |
| 21:23.27 | sag_ich_nicht | because you all suck |
| 21:23.32 | sag_ich_nicht | and didn't disable digital output |
| 21:23.37 | Mr_Rabies2 | nou |
| 21:23.41 | sag_ich_nicht | same for all line-in/line-out functions |
| 21:23.44 | sag_ich_nicht | AND |
| 21:23.51 | sag_ich_nicht | if you have an audigy2 or below |
| 21:23.59 | Arrowmaster | but i used the line in |
| 21:24.09 | sag_ich_nicht | then just turn off the rest |
| 21:24.10 | sag_ich_nicht | anyway |
| 21:24.20 | sag_ich_nicht | http://kxproject.lugosoft.com/intro.php |
| 21:24.30 | sag_ich_nicht | better drivers for anything audigy2 and below |
| 21:24.33 | sag_ich_nicht | WAY better drivers. |
| 21:24.40 | sag_ich_nicht | just don't expect them to support EAX(yet) :X |
| 21:24.52 | Arrowmaster | it was so annoying because the poping and crackling had 3d effects |
| 21:25.00 | Arrowmaster | and echos |
| 21:25.16 | sag_ich_nicht | then your EAX was missconfigured as well |
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| 21:25.25 | sag_ich_nicht | it's a very simple electrical issue |
| 21:25.30 | bleeter | meh, E-Mu started sucking the day Creative bought them out :( |
| 21:25.34 | sag_ich_nicht | you get crosstalks between the lines because of interferences |
| 21:26.12 | Arrowmaster | so much easyer to just use onboard even though its shitty |
| 21:26.25 | sag_ich_nicht | normally crackin and popping can be killed off by disabling digital output |
| 21:26.41 | sag_ich_nicht | and disabling any "effects" in the driver options |
| 21:27.19 | Arrowmaster | i had all the 'effects' disabled except upconverting thingy CM something something |
| 21:27.19 | sag_ich_nicht | and if that doesn't help and you don't really need EAX(you don't seem to need it since you're happy with onboard sound): http://kxproject.lugosoft.com/intro.php |
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| 21:27.45 | sag_ich_nicht | the kxproject drivers are FAR superior for music creation |
| 21:28.11 | sag_ich_nicht | turn the audigy2 and below into really awesome soundcards for musicians imho :X |
| 21:29.35 | bleeter | any musician worth their salt would have a Mac, anyways :P |
| 21:29.47 | sag_ich_nicht | no. |
| 21:29.49 | sag_ich_nicht | not really. |
| 21:30.05 | sag_ich_nicht | chiptunes are better created on a old C64 or by hacking old soundblasters |
| 21:30.06 | sag_ich_nicht | :P |
| 21:30.14 | sag_ich_nicht | wtf. |
| 21:30.21 | sag_ich_nicht | Sound Card: SB Live! 24-bit |
| 21:30.25 | sag_ich_nicht | okay that is strange |
| 21:30.32 | sag_ich_nicht | device manager reports an audigy |
| 21:30.40 | sag_ich_nicht | and this script finds a SB Live! |
| 21:30.42 | sag_ich_nicht | lol creative. |
| 21:30.55 | zenzelezz | which script? |
| 21:31.03 | sag_ich_nicht | erm |
| 21:31.07 | sag_ich_nicht | sorry, missclicked. |
| 21:31.11 | sag_ich_nicht | EqSInfo: EqUaTe's System Information script, using DarkEngine, band.dll and moo.dll. |
| 21:31.11 | sag_ich_nicht | Version: 1.0 |
| 21:31.26 | Arrowmaster | right now im having an even worse problem with my sound and other stuff though than the crackling and poping with my audigy2 |
| 21:31.30 | sag_ich_nicht | there you go, now you know :P |
| 21:31.46 | Arrowmaster | a problem that nobody can seem to figure out |
| 21:31.48 | zenzelezz | those scripts may be using all sorts of weird ways of identifying the sound card |
| 21:31.49 | sag_ich_nicht | Arrowmaster: well plug in your audigy2 then and see if what i told you works. |
| 21:31.56 | sag_ich_nicht | no i found it already zenzelezz |
| 21:32.06 | Arrowmaster | sag_ich_nicht: see if you have any clue about this problem |
| 21:32.09 | sag_ich_nicht | the SB Live! is registered as subdevice of the Audigy |
| 21:32.13 | sag_ich_nicht | Arrowmaster shot |
| 21:32.42 | Valaron|Work | I had that problem with Audigy 2. |
| 21:33.00 | Valaron|Work | Dumped it |
| 21:33.35 | Arrowmaster | when i reboot everything is fine but after a while of either running wow + vent or other games or even just watching flash player videos (ex youtube) the problem occurs |
| 21:33.39 | sag_ich_nicht | well, you could have probably fixed it with proper configuration :X |
| 21:33.47 | sag_ich_nicht | Arrowmaster well, what problem |
| 21:33.52 | sag_ich_nicht | i wasn't paying attn earlier |
| 21:33.52 | sag_ich_nicht | :X |
| 21:34.44 | sag_ich_nicht | and what soundcard you using? |
| 21:34.54 | Arrowmaster | the problem is that once it happens i nolonger get any software sound (dxdiag and doing the sound test works for all hardware buffers but nothing from software) and if i try to watch any flash player videos (ex youtube) they have no sound and stop playing after 2-3 seconds |
| 21:35.12 | Arrowmaster | i can seek past the pause and it will play for another 2-3 seconds then stop again |
| 21:35.19 | sag_ich_nicht | mhm sounds like a waveout problem |
| 21:35.45 | Arrowmaster | its onboard sound from an nforce2 board |
| 21:35.53 | sag_ich_nicht | well as what does it identify |
| 21:36.21 | sag_ich_nicht | directsound accesses the soundcard at a lower level than the windows waveout API(which is considered deprecated anyway) |
| 21:36.31 | sag_ich_nicht | this is probably why those continue to work |
| 21:37.10 | sag_ich_nicht | i assume when this problem occurs you still have sound in WoW, but not on vent? |
| 21:37.34 | Arrowmaster | NVIDIA(R) nForce(TM) MCP Audio Processing Unit |
| 21:37.40 | Arrowmaster | is that it? |
| 21:37.47 | Arrowmaster | no i have sound in both wow and vent |
| 21:37.51 | Arrowmaster | vents using directsound |
| 21:38.00 | Arrowmaster | but i dont have 'all' sounds in wow |
| 21:38.21 | sag_ich_nicht | oh okay |
| 21:38.28 | zenzelezz | I remember I had a laptop where the sound on Vent (or was it TS) stopped after a while. Then after some time it would all start, part in succession, part on top of each other |
| 21:38.31 | sag_ich_nicht | yes, the later should be fixed with 2.2, but that's not the problem |
| 21:38.34 | Arrowmaster | like no boss yells and no error speach i think |
| 21:38.38 | sag_ich_nicht | mhm |
| 21:38.39 | sag_ich_nicht | i see |
| 21:38.46 | sag_ich_nicht | have you updated your nforce drivers yet? |
| 21:38.53 | Arrowmaster | ive tried |
| 21:38.57 | sag_ich_nicht | but? |
| 21:39.03 | Arrowmaster | no updates since like 2004 or something |
| 21:39.08 | sag_ich_nicht | i see |
| 21:39.17 | sag_ich_nicht | do you have the directx SDK updates? |
| 21:39.33 | Arrowmaster | sdk updates? dont think so |
| 21:39.39 | sag_ich_nicht | hold for link |
| 21:39.54 | sag_ich_nicht | http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyID=2da43d38-db71-4c1b-bc6a-9b6652cd92a3&displaylang=en |
| 21:39.55 | sag_ich_nicht | there |
| 21:40.11 | sag_ich_nicht | download and install, the web setup downloader will only download the additional SDK updates |
| 21:40.14 | Arrowmaster | ehh |
| 21:40.20 | Arrowmaster | i cant pass WGA on this comp |
| 21:40.24 | sag_ich_nicht | meh |
| 21:40.25 | sag_ich_nicht | hold |
| 21:40.37 | Arrowmaster | got 2 other comps in the house that i can with |
| 21:40.38 | cog|work | Kaydeethree: http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=1777869975&sid=1#3 ;) |
| 21:40.55 | sag_ich_nicht | updating genuinecheck.exe |
| 21:40.58 | Kaydeethree | lmao |
| 21:41.13 | dreamss | arrow u have vlk? |
| 21:41.14 | dreamss | xp |
| 21:41.18 | Arrowmaster | trying to get a 3rd xp pro key to use so i can stop using xp pro corp vlk on this comp |
| 21:41.32 | sag_ich_nicht | Arrowmaster: http://download.microsoft.com/download/1/7/1/1718ccc4-6315-4d8e-9543-8e28a4e18c4c/dxwebsetup.exe |
| 21:41.34 | dreamss | sec |
| 21:41.41 | dreamss | ill give u a good key arrow |
| 21:41.42 | Arrowmaster | all the MSAA keys i get from school are 1 activation only |
| 21:41.43 | dreamss | :P |
| 21:41.58 | sag_ich_nicht | dreamss can't stop being active huh? :P |
| 21:42.05 | dreamss | :P |
| 21:42.09 | Arrowmaster | and they havent sent me one yet for my latest request of xp pro |
| 21:42.23 | dreamss | somehow this chinese vlk key cant be deact by MS |
| 21:42.30 | sag_ich_nicht | dreamss: he could just decrypt lsass.exe and block the wga servers |
| 21:42.33 | sag_ich_nicht | would work as well :X |
| 21:42.51 | sag_ich_nicht | or was it winlogon.exe? i dunno anymore |
| 21:42.55 | Arrowmaster | i dont even have wga installed on this comp |
| 21:42.59 | dreamss | yeahbut its a bitch to do every update |
| 21:43.01 | sag_ich_nicht | been too long since i did that the last time :X |
| 21:43.16 | sag_ich_nicht | they don't change winlogon.exe that often :X |
| 21:43.31 | sag_ich_nicht | and you can just hostsfile block the wga servers |
| 21:43.59 | sag_ich_nicht | anyway, try installing those SDK updates, and i'll have a tweaked driver for your soundcard in a moment too |
| 21:44.06 | sag_ich_nicht | (i hope) |
| 21:44.27 | Arrowmaster | i find the weirdest thing about this problem to be the messed up youtube though |
| 21:44.43 | sag_ich_nicht | Arrowmaster: well what happens is that the windows waveout API breaks |
| 21:44.50 | sag_ich_nicht | firefox and flash use that |
| 21:44.52 | sag_ich_nicht | so that's what happens |
| 21:45.15 | Arrowmaster | ah |
| 21:45.21 | dreamss | OH |
| 21:45.37 | cog|work | Kaydeethree: I love how the site I linked specifies "suing ... things" XD |
| 21:45.46 | Kaydeethree | ya |
| 21:46.06 | dreamss | Mr_Rabies2, unistall all drivers u have for the sound ard and then go to windows update, MS should offer u drivers for it |
| 21:46.11 | dreamss | they usually works the best |
| 21:46.15 | dreamss | work" |
| 21:46.36 | Arrowmaster | ok i ran the directx sdk installer thing and i think its installed now |
| 21:46.54 | sag_ich_nicht | yeah hold for those new drivers |
| 21:46.57 | sag_ich_nicht | have to find the right one |
| 21:47.07 | Arrowmaster | drivers for the onboard? |
| 21:47.31 | sag_ich_nicht | yes. |
| 21:47.37 | sag_ich_nicht | someone hacked new ones together |
| 21:47.46 | sag_ich_nicht | actually whole new ones for your whole chipset, if i see this right |
| 21:47.56 | sag_ich_nicht | but i have to find the proper version, don't want to break your PC :X |
| 21:49.21 | Arrowmaster | NVIDIA nForce™2 Ultra 400 chipset i think |
| 21:49.36 | Arrowmaster | GA-7NNXP board |
| 21:49.47 | sag_ich_nicht | yeah doesn't matter as long as it's nForce2 |
| 21:49.55 | Arrowmaster | cool |
| 21:51.26 | Arrowmaster | yeah nForce Audio Driver is from August 23, 2005 and nForce Unified Driver - XP is from September 17, 2004 nvidia.com |
| 21:52.29 | Arrowmaster | also got ATI WDM VIVO drivers installed but i doubt thats effecting it |
| 21:52.37 | sag_ich_nicht | okay here we go found it. |
| 21:52.52 | sag_ich_nicht | http://www.ngohq.com/home.php?page=Files&go=cat&dwn_cat_id=20&go=giveme&dwn_id=303 |
| 21:53.03 | sag_ich_nicht | remember to remove ANY old nforce drivers before you install those drivers |
| 21:53.13 | sag_ich_nicht | also audio drivers |
| 21:53.20 | sag_ich_nicht | i'd even recommend removing the video drivers as well, but meh :X |
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| 21:54.22 | Arrowmaster | remove as in just uninstall or go the full driver cleaner pro route |
| 21:54.53 | sag_ich_nicht | i'd go in full driver cleaner pro route :X |
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| 21:57.26 | Mr_Rabies2 | dreamss, not at all |
| 21:57.34 | Mr_Rabies2 | EAX doesn't work amongst other things |
| 21:57.39 | Mr_Rabies2 | so i have no 3d sound |
| 21:58.04 | Mr_Rabies2 | but woo |
| 21:58.09 | Mr_Rabies2 | my sound card is now on its own irq |
| 22:00.49 | Arrowmaster | that filename has XP64 in it, you sure thats the correct one |
| 22:01.06 | sag_ich_nicht | oh |
| 22:01.07 | sag_ich_nicht | sorry |
| 22:01.08 | sag_ich_nicht | hold |
| 22:01.14 | sag_ich_nicht | ~fail sag_ich_nicht |
| 22:01.14 | purl | sag_ich_nicht: Fail. |
| 22:01.22 | Arrowmaster | i see the correct one on that site |
| 22:01.41 | sag_ich_nicht | http://www.ngohq.com/home.php?page=Files&go=cat&dwn_cat_id=20&go=giveme&dwn_id=302 |
| 22:01.43 | sag_ich_nicht | there you go. |
| 22:02.07 | sag_ich_nicht | sorry >< |
| 22:02.38 | sag_ich_nicht | anyway that will probably fix your issues AND increase your perfomance, it uses a backported vista driver to make it work :X |
| 22:02.56 | bleeter | just buy yerselves a real soundcard like an m-audio or stuff |
| 22:05.07 | sag_ich_nicht | or you could just buy the cheapest x-fi, ignore all the analog outputs, turn off all the effects, use the digital output where the soundcard doesn't really matter and plug it all into a proper reciever and connect it to an amp |
| 22:05.10 | sag_ich_nicht | but hey that's just me |
| 22:05.11 | sag_ich_nicht | >:P |
| 22:05.57 | bleeter | i'd still take the digidesign h/w kthx :P |
| 22:05.59 | Arrowmaster | im a fool and actually purchased an analog 6.1 system |
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| 22:06.29 | Arrowmaster | my audigy2plat is one of the originals sold as a 6.1 card and not a 7.1 card |
| 22:06.44 | sag_ich_nicht | bleeter i bet you buy monster cables and use magnetic decoupling too, right? |
| 22:06.45 | sag_ich_nicht | :P |
| 22:07.08 | bleeter | sag_ich_nicht: plus a sonic screwdriver! |
| 22:07.13 | sag_ich_nicht | what |
| 22:07.14 | sag_ich_nicht | GIEB |
| 22:07.19 | sag_ich_nicht | GIEB OR I DESTROY YOU |
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| 22:10.46 | Mr_Rabies2 | <Arrowmaster> im a fool and actually purchased an analog 6.1 system |
| 22:10.53 | Mr_Rabies2 | analog 5.1 |
| 22:10.54 | Mr_Rabies2 | wutup |
| 22:11.18 | Arrowmaster | yeah well you dont have a completely useless speaker that does nothing that you paid for |
| 22:12.05 | sag_ich_nicht | dreamss |
| 22:12.07 | sag_ich_nicht | ~fail dreamss |
| 22:12.08 | purl | dreamss: Fail. |
| 22:14.23 | sag_ich_nicht | i don't have one! |
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| 22:14.26 | sag_ich_nicht | bleeter does! |
| 22:14.41 | Antiarc | Well, not any MORE. |
| 22:14.47 | sag_ich_nicht | O RLY |
| 22:14.50 | sag_ich_nicht | well |
| 22:14.53 | sag_ich_nicht | that's a shame. |
| 22:18.52 | dreamss | sag_ich_nicht, ? |
| 22:22.19 | sag_ich_nicht | well |
| 22:22.21 | sag_ich_nicht | dreamss |
| 22:22.26 | sag_ich_nicht | i demand that you send me free cookies in the mail |
| 22:22.29 | sag_ich_nicht | for the rest of my life |
| 22:22.43 | dreamss | how about tamales |
| 22:22.47 | dreamss | im mexican |
| 22:22.52 | dreamss | mexicant actually |
| 22:23.32 | sag_ich_nicht | no. you will continue to fail until i get my cookies :( |
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| 22:24.11 | dreamss | dd if=sag_ich_nicht of=/dev/cookie_jar |
| 22:24.17 | dreamss | happy? |
| 22:25.08 | sag_ich_nicht | no |
| 22:25.10 | sag_ich_nicht | you're doing it wrong. |
| 22:25.18 | sag_ich_nicht | you will not put me into the cookie jar! |
| 22:25.34 | dreamss | well, i just did |
| 22:25.39 | sag_ich_nicht | ~facepalm |
| 22:25.39 | purl | ACTION facepalms at the situation |
| 22:25.43 | dreamss | and erased the cookies |
| 22:25.56 | dreamss | and we have no backups |
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| 22:25.58 | dreamss | :< |
| 22:26.03 | sag_ich_nicht | dreamss that sucks |
| 22:26.04 | bleeter | erased the jar, not the cookies imo |
| 22:26.17 | sag_ich_nicht | jkust ljust like that red hat machine that that gnutella database was stored on |
| 22:26.20 | bleeter | i wouldn't be too happy 'bout using the default block size either |
| 22:26.32 | dreamss | it emptied out the cookies and replaced it with sag's blood |
| 22:26.33 | sag_ich_nicht | s/jkust ljust/just/ |
| 22:26.39 | sag_ich_nicht | damnit |
| 22:26.43 | sag_ich_nicht | *that had that |
| 22:26.48 | sag_ich_nicht | fucking son of a bitch i can't type anymore |
| 22:26.59 | dreamss | im contagious |
| 22:26.59 | sag_ich_nicht | no wait, that was correct actually |
| 22:27.00 | dreamss | sorry |
| 22:27.03 | sag_ich_nicht | ~fail sag_ich_nicht |
| 22:27.04 | purl | sag_ich_nicht: Fail. |
| 22:28.17 | sag_ich_nicht | awesome |
| 22:28.35 | sag_ich_nicht | now i can be TWICE AS MEAN! |
| 22:28.44 | sag_ich_nicht | Shirik you know what that means?! |
| 22:28.44 | dreamss | that could make him travel time if we had a flux capasitor |
| 22:31.05 | sag_ich_nicht | fuck |
| 22:31.12 | sag_ich_nicht | one of my model m caps just flew off to SOMEWHERE |
| 22:31.16 | sag_ich_nicht | and i don't know to where |
| 22:31.18 | sag_ich_nicht | that sucks. |
| 22:31.45 | sag_ich_nicht | found it. |
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| 22:34.15 | |Jelly| | Ok. I give. How is he making his quest log look like this: http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/full8280.jpg |
| 22:34.33 | |Jelly| | Cause apparently Lightheaded doesn't work or I'm to stupid to figure out how to make it work with Extended Quest log and nQuestLog |
| 22:34.40 | |Jelly| | s/and/or/ |
| 22:34.47 | zenzelezz | through sheer force of will! |
| 22:34.54 | sag_ich_nicht | ~fail |Jelly| |
| 22:34.54 | purl | |Jelly|: Fail. |
| 22:35.04 | bleeter | |Jelly|: iriel's doublewide? |
| 22:35.09 | |Jelly| | Well, I'm sure Clad just looks at it and POOF! It bends to his will but I don't have this skill. |
| 22:35.09 | sag_ich_nicht | bleeter is correct |
| 22:35.24 | sag_ich_nicht | and it says so in the fucking readme for lightheaded |
| 22:35.34 | |Jelly| | Well, I didn't RTFM SO THERE. |
| 22:35.45 | sag_ich_nicht | ~rtfm |
| 22:35.46 | purl | i heard rtfm is Read The F*cking Manual (TM). It is a suggestion to do your homework before posting a question. Sometimes used as RTFM $SPECIFIC_MANUAL to refer to a specific source of information. See also http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RTFM |
| 22:35.46 | bleeter | ~whaleslap |Jelly| |
| 22:35.47 | purl | ACTION beats |Jelly| upside and over the head with a freakishly huge killer whale named Hugh |
| 22:35.56 | |Jelly| | ~whaleparry bleeter |
| 22:35.57 | purl | ACTION uses a slightly less-huge but eminently more agile killer whale named Edwardo to parry bleeter's attacks. |
| 22:36.05 | sag_ich_nicht | ~rtfm |Jelly| |
| 22:36.05 | purl | ACTION tosses |Jelly| a 50lb unix manual |
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| 22:36.13 | Saint-N | jelly |
| 22:36.26 | bleeter | 50lb Unix manual? thems were the days! :D |
| 22:36.31 | Saint-N | lightheaded works with both, i "believe" there is a tick box for lightheaded support |
| 22:36.54 | Saint-N | and on eql there is a little tiny slide out tab for the light headed info |
| 22:37.20 | zenzelezz | 50 lb manuals sounds like something from MicroProse |
| 22:37.28 | Saint-N | nquest and questfu however will only show location data from the quest log not thier built in detached log window |
| 22:37.53 | sag_ich_nicht | i go to bed now, night guys |
| 22:38.05 | Saint-N | night whiner ;P |
| 22:38.07 | |Jelly| | Well. I already downloaded and installed doublewide so there. |
| 22:38.14 | bleeter | gnight sag_ich_nicht |
| 22:38.32 | Saint-N | ones as good as the next ;) |
| 22:39.01 | Saint-N | questfu is the best though with its detachable quest list that you can set height and width on and be able to scroll up ande down |
| 22:39.02 | sag_ich_nicht | oh and dreamss? dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/yourmom would have been way more original. :P |
| 22:39.28 | Saint-N | you fergot to & loser |
| 22:39.43 | sag_ich_nicht | O RLY |
| 22:39.43 | dreamss | lol |
| 22:39.55 | sag_ich_nicht | and you forgot to remember that i should also NOHUP THAT! |
| 22:39.58 | sag_ich_nicht | so there we BOTH fail |
| 22:39.59 | Saint-N | see its still in the fg thus you're not actually sleeping |
| 22:40.08 | bleeter | I'm sure there's some /dev/clue and /dev/null linkage missing as well :P |
| 22:40.20 | dreamss | lol |
| 22:40.25 | sag_ich_nicht | wait |
| 22:40.27 | sag_ich_nicht | that won't work. |
| 22:40.32 | sag_ich_nicht | night guys. |
| 22:46.05 | bleeter | Kaydeethree: ping |
| 22:46.10 | Kaydeethree | pong |
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| 22:46.53 | bleeter | time to get the 2.3 PTR FAQ happening... Q.1. When will the 2.3 PTR be up? When Blizz decide to put it up. Q.2. Will there be premades? etc. etc. ;) |
| 22:47.02 | Kaydeethree | lol |
| 22:47.05 | bleeter | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=1777960018&sid=1 |
| 22:47.18 | Kaydeethree | topic deleted |
| 22:47.33 | bleeter | Subject: Dear Hortus |
| 22:47.42 | bleeter | Content: Ok do u know when the 2.3 pathc comes and PTRs r back up?................P.S. i dont need any one esle with there smart ass cmoments sry hortus for the bad word but i dont like when other people do there smart comments thx and have a nice day :D |
| 22:47.52 | Kaydeethree | oh, I saw that one |
| 22:48.02 | buu | Wow. |
| 22:48.25 | Kaydeethree | I'm surprised he didn't just lock the forum itself |
| 22:48.45 | Kaydeethree | someone's been deleting threads all day |
| 22:48.47 | bleeter | not that creating a 2.3 FAQ would help :/ |
| 22:49.06 | bleeter | you'd need a pic to help people find the pic to help people find the post |
| 22:49.23 | Kaydeethree | lmao |
| 22:50.13 | bleeter | btw, did you see which app is now #1 gold rating on the wine appdb home page? |
| 22:50.22 | bleeter | we did a tweak and obsoleted 2.0.x ;) |
| 22:50.26 | Kaydeethree | lol |
| 22:50.40 | bleeter | <<was sick of rejecting test results filed against 2.0 |
| 22:51.32 | bleeter | actually, more of a nasty hack than a tweak.. obsoleting isn't the problem. the nasty hack was migrating the votes ;) |
| 22:52.24 | bleeter | just need that dang hang on exit patch looked at, and hopefully applied.. alex can't be that far away now :/ |
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| 22:58.33 | Kaydeethree | oh wow, they've already reset character copies |
| 22:58.40 | Kaydeethree | boo, premades are enabled |
| 22:59.16 | buu | Where? |
| 22:59.27 | Kaydeethree | worldofwarcraft.com/ptr |
| 23:00.43 | buu | I thought the PTR was down |
| 23:00.48 | Kaydeethree | it is |
| 23:01.55 | buu | So, er, what are you talking about? |
| 23:02.23 | Kaydeethree | they've reset character copies (as in, I've got all 4 available to me again) in preparation for bringing up the next PTR |
| 23:02.27 | bleeter | the copy queue's reset, premades available.. just that there's no 2.2 PTR anymore/new 2.3 PTR yet |
| 23:02.52 | buu | I see. |
| 23:03.18 | buu | So maybe we'll get 2.3 sometime before january |
| 23:03.32 | buu | I'm a little suprised we didn't see 2.2 get rolled in to 2.3 |
| 23:03.44 | Kaydeethree | I'm betting on "it'll be on the ptr the day after 2.2 goes live, it'll be out a few weeks later" |
| 23:03.46 | bleeter | I'm *guessing* that the time the 2.2 took, 2.3 got more internal testing than what it would've normally got |
| 23:03.55 | buu | We can but hope. |
| 23:04.01 | bleeter | yeah, so it'll be out on live a lot quicker |
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| 23:05.58 | bleeter | did they actually bring back the voice servers after their maintenance, before shutting the PTR down? |
| 23:06.09 | Kaydeethree | no |
| 23:06.56 | bleeter | interesting.. wonder if voice will be enabled at all on release ;) |
| 23:07.04 | Kaydeethree | day 1 no |
| 23:07.06 | Kaydeethree | day 2, on a few realms |
| 23:07.07 | bleeter | i know they said it'd be limited |
| 23:07.14 | bleeter | kk |
| 23:07.42 | |Jelly| | wait. what? |
| 23:07.45 | bleeter | wonder if they'll lock those realms from account new toon creation (as opposed to toon creation for accounts that already have toons on them) |
| 23:07.54 | bleeter | 'coz I can foresee those realms will get flooded |
| 23:08.30 | Kaydeethree | meh, they never protected medivh from the level 1 swarm when we were the first to open AQ back in january of 06 |
| 23:08.46 | MentalPower|Zzzz | not medivh, but the other they did |
| 23:08.51 | MentalPower|Zzzz | medivh was the first |
| 23:09.44 | buu | Everyone will be there for ZA =[ |
| 23:10.01 | Kaydeethree | za's in 2.3 |
| 23:10.09 | buu | Which is the upcoming ptr |
| 23:10.38 | nevcairiel | i'll just be there for addon stuff.. screw those raid testers =P |
| 23:11.02 | bleeter | yar, s/addon/addon 'n wine/ for me tho |
| 23:11.20 | bleeter | hence I'll also want to be getting on to the initial live voice enabled realms |
| 23:12.37 | zenzelezz | may want to find out which ones those are then, or create a bunch of level 1s on different ones and pray in case they lock those servers :-p |
| 23:12.47 | Kaydeethree | it's stickied in general |
| 23:13.01 | bleeter | yar |
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| 23:28.28 | AnduinLothar | hmmm why doesn't ElkBuffBars have scale |
| 23:30.48 | AnduinLothar | I'd use um but they're f-ing huge. i need um smaller scale so i can still see the whole text. but the frames dont have global names so i cant lfuid frames them either |
| 23:31.40 | |Jelly| | You can manually change the size of everything. Pain in the ass, I know but once you change one, you can import it's layout to the others. |
| 23:31.54 | AnduinLothar | i dont want to change the size. i want to scal eit |
| 23:32.04 | AnduinLothar | hmm |
| 23:32.16 | AnduinLothar | spose i can resize text down and then resize down |
| 23:32.21 | |Jelly| | .. |
| 23:32.40 | AnduinLothar | ya, lame |
| 23:37.25 | Kaydeethree | geez... the "PTRs are down" announcement's going to threadcap less than 8 hours after it got posted at this rate |
| 23:38.24 | AnduinLothar | ElkBuffBars needs some better anchoring in relation to the groups |
| 23:38.32 | Mike-N-Go | What is the mine in AV good for? |
| 23:38.38 | AnduinLothar | more honor |
| 23:39.02 | Mike-N-Go | Like, how much? |
| 23:39.04 | Kaydeethree | 20 honor if your side has possession when the opposing general dies |
| 23:41.47 | AnduinLothar | =D I hacked PaladinGreaterBuffs to be vertical and have the 2nd bar scale and pop up ina better place. http://www.karlkfi.com/WoW/PaladinGreaterBuffs.jpg |
| 23:43.34 | zenzelezz | must be pretty nice |
| 23:44.29 | AnduinLothar | it's fairly simple, just a lot of secure button template crap i never wanted to learn or write. |
| 23:44.42 | AnduinLothar | so i just tweaked the existing one |
| 23:45.45 | [dRaCo] | anyone with a good rss feed reader for the g15? |
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