| 00:04.30 | *** join/#wowi-lounge Tierrie (n=tierrie@adsl-68-126-176-248.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net) |
| 00:07.52 | Mr_Rabies2 | does anyone know of an imagehost that accepts really freaking huge jpgs |
| 00:07.54 | Mr_Rabies2 | :O |
| 00:08.06 | Thunder_Child | how big? |
| 00:09.01 | Mr_Rabies2 | 5 MB or so |
| 00:09.05 | Mr_Rabies2 | so not giant giant |
| 00:09.08 | Mr_Rabies2 | but rather large :o |
| 00:09.08 | Tierrie | ah fuck |
| 00:09.15 | Thunder_Child | picasa can |
| 00:09.17 | Tierrie | i just realized after a year that i can't use all 4gb of my memory |
| 00:09.21 | Thunder_Child | up to 1gb i think |
| 00:09.24 | Mr_Rabies2 | Tierre |
| 00:09.33 | Kirov | Tierrie - do a search for "/3G" |
| 00:09.33 | Thunder_Child | 32-bit? |
| 00:09.35 | Mr_Rabies2 | your motherboard won't support it? |
| 00:09.46 | Cidan | If "pro" is the opposite of "con", then what is the opposite of "progress?" |
| 00:09.49 | Cidan | ;x |
| 00:09.50 | Tierrie | something to do with memory mapping, and vista 32bits |
| 00:09.59 | Tierrie | thanks Kirov me reading |
| 00:10.04 | Thunder_Child | yea, only 64-bit OS's can |
| 00:10.06 | zenzelezz | Cidan: try the same with constitution |
| 00:10.19 | Mr_Rabies2 | hahahaha |
| 00:10.33 | Thunder_Child | Mr_Rabies2 http://picasaweb.google.com/home |
| 00:10.36 | Tierrie | TC: I know 32bit OS can only use up to 4gb, I did not know that because of various memory mappings, 1Gb is taken up by random shit |
| 00:10.49 | Tierrie | so i am only using 3Gb of RAM and 1Gb of random shit using memory mapping |
| 00:10.50 | Thunder_Child | the 1gb was at Mr_Rabies2 |
| 00:11.04 | Kirov | Tierrie - Actually, more likely you're using 2.5gb |
| 00:11.15 | Thunder_Child | 32-bit can only use around 3.25 of 4gb |
| 00:11.28 | Thunder_Child | in windows that is |
| 00:11.37 | Thunder_Child | it varries by OS |
| 00:11.42 | Tierrie | well i am amazingly frumpy right now, because i could have bought vista 64 back when i got my os |
| 00:12.08 | Kirov | Tierrie - and you could still be trying to get anything to _run_ |
| 00:12.24 | Thunder_Child | yea, i should have done the same thing Tierrie...kicking my self for it now |
| 00:12.25 | Tierrie | it took me a while to get shit to run on the 32bit -- until i flashed my bios |
| 00:12.43 | Tierrie | i bought the oem version so it doesn't even come with 64bit os :( |
| 00:12.47 | Tierrie | i mean |
| 00:12.49 | Thunder_Child | same as me |
| 00:13.01 | foxlit|mac | RLE is meant to be so simple, but this code is an abomination of logic :( |
| 00:13.10 | Tierrie | i mean, i bought a 30 cent power cable, and got an OS for an addition $199 |
| 00:13.18 | zenzelezz | I remember getting a "Magic BIOS" (or similar) program that would flash my BIOS from inside Windows... never dared try that. Scary enough from a DOS disk |
| 00:13.52 | Shirik | I did that once |
| 00:13.53 | Mr_Rabies2 | a lot of mobo manufacturers are moving to in-OS bios flashing |
| 00:14.01 | Kirov | Tierrie - http://blogs.technet.com/brad_rutkowski/archive/2006/10/03/Hey-where-did-_2F00_3GB-go-in-Longhorn-and-Vista_3F00_.aspx |
| 00:14.03 | Shirik | the next day, I returned the board claiming it was "defective" |
| 00:15.36 | Tierrie | thanks Kirov |
| 00:15.46 | Tierrie | i am considering robbing TC for money |
| 00:16.02 | foxlit|mac | http://foxlit.pastey.net/73933 |
| 00:16.13 | Tierrie | maybe my motherboard will fail, causing me to have to buy a new "motherboard" and then vista will magically appear on my laptop |
| 00:16.56 | foxlit|mac | There must be a better way to do that |
| 00:17.08 | Tierrie | oem licenses are non transferable :( |
| 00:18.44 | Tierrie | "god, vista, I really want to love you. i mean everyone hates you, but i want to love you. please stop kicking me in my balls" |
| 00:20.06 | Mr_Rabies2 | picasa seems to resize the images |
| 00:20.12 | Mr_Rabies2 | i want one i can hotlink in fullsize :O |
| 00:20.13 | Tierrie | flickr is nice for pictures |
| 00:20.25 | Tierrie | if you have a flickr pro account you should be able to hotlink to the original size |
| 00:21.51 | Mr_Rabies2 | never gonna give you up |
| 00:21.54 | Mr_Rabies2 | never gonna let you down |
| 00:21.57 | Tierrie | haha |
| 00:21.58 | Mr_Rabies2 | never gonna run around and |
| 00:22.00 | Mr_Rabies2 | desert yoooou |
| 00:22.04 | Tierrie | :) |
| 00:22.20 | Tierrie | peter cetera? |
| 00:22.42 | Esamynn | Tierrie: Vista is the spawn of the devil |
| 00:22.49 | Cidan | Not at all |
| 00:22.51 | Cidan | <3 Vista. |
| 00:22.53 | Tierrie | well, i wouldn't say that |
| 00:22.55 | Mr_Rabies2 | tierre |
| 00:23.00 | Mr_Rabies2 | http://youtube.com/watch%3fv=oHg5SJYRHA0 |
| 00:23.14 | Cidan | I've had no problems at all with Vista |
| 00:23.18 | Tierrie | i think of it as an obnoxious good looking Pratchetian imp repeatedly kicking me in the balls |
| 00:23.18 | Kirov | oh cool, Rotate Minimap option in the interface options |
| 00:23.33 | Tierrie | rotfl |
| 00:23.38 | Tierrie | i love this song ;) |
| 00:23.59 | Tierrie | i got rick rolled :( |
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| 00:24.47 | Tierrie | frankly i dislike Apple's business practice more than I dislike MS |
| 00:25.05 | Tierrie | the frantic fanaticsm of macheads reminds me a lot of evangelists |
| 00:26.06 | Tierrie | hey Mr_Rabies2: http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=QYXqlgzAc-0 |
| 00:26.17 | Kirov | There was an image I saw once with the Apple iPhone on one side with the comments people where making, and on the other side was the iPhone with a "SONY" branding on it and the theoretically comments. "Kinda cool, but missing a lot of features." "Nothing new, been done before better." etc. |
| 00:26.32 | kergoth | Anyone try playing Vanguard? curious about whether it's worth trying out |
| 00:26.47 | Mr_Rabies2 | i didn't even know there was a uk.youtube.com |
| 00:27.26 | Tierrie | ich bien reichmaester! |
| 00:27.33 | Corrodias | you know what i don't like about sundays? |
| 00:27.38 | Tierrie | it precedes mondays |
| 00:27.41 | Corrodias | exactly |
| 00:27.45 | Tierrie | ^5 Corrodias |
| 00:28.09 | Mr_Rabies2 | the original propaganda videos are more epic :O |
| 00:28.38 | Tierrie | hey rabies, rickrolling aside, have you seen bandytoaster/groovy girl dance videos? |
| 00:28.45 | Mr_Rabies2 | nope |
| 00:28.57 | Mr_Rabies2 | i try to avoid most of that type stuff |
| 00:29.03 | Tierrie | http://uk.youtube.com/user/BandyToaster |
| 00:29.11 | Mr_Rabies2 | despite having viewed... |
| 00:29.33 | Tierrie | this one i mean http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=Sr2JneittqQ |
| 00:29.36 | Mr_Rabies2 | 3000 videos since march 2006 |
| 00:29.39 | Tierrie | rotfl |
| 00:29.50 | Mr_Rabies2 | ah yeah i've seen that one |
| 00:29.57 | Tierrie | she has a 2nd video |
| 00:30.03 | Tierrie | just like a few weeks ago |
| 00:30.07 | Tierrie | its just as awesome |
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| 00:32.51 | Mr_Rabies2 | how does uk.youtube vary? ads? |
| 00:32.52 | Tierrie | beats me |
| 00:32.52 | Tierrie | bandytoaster is irish |
| 00:32.52 | Mr_Rabies2 | maybe closer content servers |
| 00:32.52 | Tierrie | so i guess she is localized |
| 00:33.05 | Mr_Rabies2 | maybe it's another mirror cluster |
| 00:33.17 | Mr_Rabies2 | for faster dl's to the ukish area |
| 00:33.32 | amro|laptop | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cembvapPz70 ROFL at #3 |
| 00:34.11 | Tierrie | i watched every episodes of conan when he was here |
| 00:35.59 | amro|laptop | walker week was awesome |
| 00:36.43 | Mr_Rabies2 | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZvXqsLQPaKA is such a great video |
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| 00:38.34 | amro|laptop | this one is messed up http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9NMwEPf63js |
| 00:41.36 | Mr_Rabies2 | i hate that little kid |
| 00:43.23 | Kirov | I love the episode where Chuck Norris shows up with his own lever |
| 00:44.04 | foxlit|mac | So when are the emmies? |
| 00:46.57 | Esamynn | foxlit|mac: next year :P |
| 00:47.30 | foxlit|mac | As opposed to today? |
| 00:47.49 | Esamynn | emmies were last week |
| 00:48.00 | Esamynn | we're they? |
| 00:48.09 | foxlit|mac | We're definitely not they |
| 00:48.45 | Esamynn | s/we're/weren't/ |
| 00:49.06 | [dRaCo] | today, afaik |
| 00:49.11 | [dRaCo] | about... now. |
| 00:50.17 | Esamynn | I could have sworn they were last week, the South Park episode won one |
| 00:50.33 | Mr_Rabies2 | that was the uhh |
| 00:50.38 | Mr_Rabies2 | short somethingorother emmies |
| 00:50.44 | Esamynn | ahh ok |
| 00:55.02 | Corrodias | so. do i want to level my hunter to 70 or equip him well for 69 and farm up honor? well, i don't really -enjoy- pvp that much, so i think i'll level him. |
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| 00:56.39 | Thunder_Child | Corrodias, first figure out which one will be faster, therefor over sooner |
| 00:57.26 | amro|laptop | whenever I come accross a similar question, I tell myself it's just a damn game and just do whatever |
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| 00:59.02 | Corrodias | the only benefit of pvping now is that i can build up honor more easily to get better gear to pvp with. but i don't actually enjoy pvp that much, so i think that would be nearly pointless. |
| 00:59.46 | foxlit|mac | Creative Arts vs Primetime Emmy Awards |
| 01:00.06 | mikma | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NSNnbfynnWY <- such a great song, fuck the video |
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| 01:05.20 | Thunder_Child | well it was good till someone started singing |
| 01:07.31 | Kirov | Anyone know if UPDATE_SHAPESHIFT_FORM has any args? |
| 01:07.46 | mikma | i'm sure DevTools knows |
| 01:07.53 | Kirov | I don't have a druid |
| 01:07.55 | Mr_Rabies2 | devtools knows all |
| 01:08.22 | Mr_Rabies2 | devtools knows that you killed that hooker and left the corpse behind the dumpster in the alley off 39th street |
| 01:08.25 | mikma | Kirov: when is that event fired? |
| 01:08.38 | mikma | Mr_Rabies2: i'm sure DevTools even knows who killed Kennedy |
| 01:08.50 | Kirov | mikma - when a druid changes between forms |
| 01:09.02 | mikma | Kirov: ok i'll test and tell you |
| 01:09.27 | amro|laptop | DevTools killed Kennedy, that's why no one knows for sure. perfect alibi. |
| 01:10.24 | Kirov | I'm trying to find out A) if it has any args, B) does it fire when other players shape shift, or only for the player, and C) does the player get the shape shift buff before or after UPDATE_SHAPESHIFT_FORM, and how far between |
| 01:10.38 | Thunder_Child | i guess devtools doesnt know all, the hooker was behind 3rd street |
| 01:10.42 | Mr_Rabies2 | kirov |
| 01:10.54 | Mr_Rabies2 | i'm logging off and gonna install DT |
| 01:11.12 | Kirov | Mr_Rabies2 - you don't have it installed? |
| 01:11.16 | Mr_Rabies2 | why would i |
| 01:11.32 | Mr_Rabies2 | would just eat resources doing nothing helpful for me :X |
| 01:12.13 | mikma | Kirov: no args |
| 01:12.22 | Kirov | mikma - thank you |
| 01:12.35 | Mr_Rabies2 | well that saved some itme |
| 01:12.36 | mikma | Kirov: PLAYER_AURAS_CHANGED gets fired before UPDATE_SHAPESHIFT_FORM |
| 01:12.59 | Kirov | mikma - with in the same frame, or with a delay? |
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| 01:13.44 | mikma | delay is 0.00.028 :I or something |
| 01:14.01 | mikma | in the same frame |
| 01:14.06 | Kirov | thank you |
| 01:14.41 | mikma | i still don't get it why the TABARD_CANSAVE_CHANGED keeps firing all the time |
| 01:15.20 | Kirov | If a player is around you with a tabard design you haven't seen, it'll fire |
| 01:15.34 | Mr_Rabies2 | does the "yes" button on the readycheck frame have a frame name? |
| 01:15.54 | Mr_Rabies2 | i'm so tempted to bind a key to /click ReadyCheckYesbuttonframe or whatever |
| 01:18.18 | mikma | Mr_Rabies2: ConfirmReadyCheck(1) <- that gets executed when you press "yes" |
| 01:18.31 | mikma | and this after that ReadyCheckFrame:Hide() |
| 01:19.03 | Mr_Rabies2 | so could i make a macro that did |
| 01:19.14 | Mr_Rabies2 | /script ConfirmReadyCheck(1); |
| 01:19.16 | Mr_Rabies2 | ? |
| 01:19.38 | mikma | you'll propably need them both, /script ConfirmReadyCheck(1); ReadyCheckFrame:Hide(); |
| 01:20.02 | Mr_Rabies2 | ah |
| 01:20.35 | mikma | and seems like ConfirmReadyCheck() is used in no -button |
| 01:22.11 | Kirov | ReadyCheckFrameYesButton |
| 01:23.00 | foxlit|mac | It'd have to be |
| 01:23.11 | foxlit|mac | There's a difference between voting no and being AFK |
| 01:23.28 | foxlit|mac | New and improved RLE handling: http://foxlit.pastey.net/73936-3vcz |
| 01:24.03 | Tierrie | 750gb takes a long time to format >_< |
| 01:24.23 | Kaydeethree | you buy a 750GB drive? |
| 01:24.25 | Tierrie | yah |
| 01:24.35 | Kaydeethree | the WD? |
| 01:24.39 | foxlit|mac | [It's absolutely unrelated to the conversation and probably boring, but the rewrite is >> original in style + logic]] |
| 01:24.44 | Tierrie | yah |
| 01:24.48 | Kaydeethree | how much, where? |
| 01:24.51 | Tierrie | i thought180ish |
| 01:24.53 | Tierrie | frys |
| 01:24.55 | Kaydeethree | I've been thinking about getting a few of those |
| 01:25.02 | Tierrie | its either this |
| 01:25.04 | Tierrie | or wait for the 1Tb |
| 01:25.14 | foxlit|mac | I don't have that much pirated content to store yet |
| 01:25.22 | Kaydeethree | not until they stuff 1.5tb on a drive and the 1 tbs come down in price |
| 01:25.24 | Tierrie | i don't either but i just set up PVR |
| 01:25.26 | amro|laptop | foxlit|mac: yes I looked at the old one and it crit my face |
| 01:25.32 | Tierrie | get a PVR KD3 |
| 01:25.52 | foxlit|mac | amro: new one has a smaller chance to crit? :) |
| 01:26.30 | Thunder_Child | i use 1.4TB of 1.8 |
| 01:26.36 | Kaydeethree | 1G-blocks / used / available / use % / mount: 709G, 668G, 42G, 95%, /home |
| 01:26.38 | Tierrie | 1.8 what? |
| 01:26.43 | Thunder_Child | 1.8TB |
| 01:26.49 | Tierrie | HOW? |
| 01:26.52 | Tierrie | i mean hey buddy |
| 01:26.54 | Tierrie | send me your porn |
| 01:26.55 | Kaydeethree | a big raid5 |
| 01:26.59 | Thunder_Child | very little porn |
| 01:27.03 | Tierrie | that doesn't even count |
| 01:27.07 | Tierrie | how much distinct data |
| 01:27.09 | Thunder_Child | most;y shows |
| 01:27.12 | Tierrie | oh pvrs? |
| 01:27.12 | Thunder_Child | mostly* |
| 01:27.14 | foxlit|mac | store entropy noise to bully the police |
| 01:27.19 | Thunder_Child | pvrs? |
| 01:27.25 | Tierrie | personal video recorders |
| 01:27.28 | Tierrie | like using your comp as a tivo |
| 01:27.31 | Tierrie | or downloaded |
| 01:27.33 | foxlit|mac | "This random data must be encrypted, hand over your keys or go to jail!" |
| 01:27.33 | Kaydeethree | MythTV <3 |
| 01:27.38 | Thunder_Child | no, dont have it hooked up to cable |
| 01:27.40 | Tierrie | myth for linux : D |
| 01:27.48 | Tierrie | I use ze vista |
| 01:27.52 | Kaydeethree | ctcp version me |
| 01:27.52 | Thunder_Child | stuff i DL, 1 ep is around 8gb |
| 01:28.01 | Thunder_Child | 1 season* |
| 01:28.20 | Kaydeethree | oh, was about to say... what the hell kind of unencoded vids are you downloading? |
| 01:28.25 | Tierrie | i know KD3, you just said "10: 011G-blocks / used / available / use % / mount: 709G, 668G, 42G, 95%, /home" |
| 01:28.50 | buu | /dev/md0 3.3T 1.8T 1.5T 56% /s |
| 01:28.50 | Thunder_Child | although the uncompressed fraps vids i have are 3.9GB/2.5 min |
| 01:28.56 | Tierrie | good god |
| 01:29.02 | Tierrie | the amount of space you could save |
| 01:29.09 | buu | epeen ftw. |
| 01:29.33 | Thunder_Child | i only have 200gb of that though |
| 01:30.10 | Tierrie | the only reason i got the 750gb is because of the PVR |
| 01:30.19 | buu | Yeah, most of mine is tv |
| 01:30.23 | buu | But torrents > pvr |
| 01:30.35 | Thunder_Child | i would love to do that but i would have to "rent" another box from the cable company |
| 01:30.37 | Tierrie | one's legal the other's not |
| 01:30.46 | Tierrie | i think as i grow older, i have more to lose by going to jail :P |
| 01:30.47 | buu | Picky picky. |
| 01:30.51 | Thunder_Child | it's perfectly leagal to record shows |
| 01:30.53 | buu | Tierrie: You don't go to jail |
| 01:30.58 | buu | Tierrie: It's a civil offense. |
| 01:31.02 | Kaydeethree | meh, I need to get a better tvcard, my pvr-150's not going to last much longer |
| 01:31.07 | buu | Even assuming someone gets dinged for it |
| 01:31.08 | Tierrie | hauppage? |
| 01:31.14 | buu | Which, I believe, nobody has as of yet. |
| 01:31.21 | Tierrie | kd3: hauppauge is still the top of the line their 150s are the best in the market |
| 01:31.31 | Tierrie | the only thing better is the 500, which is two 150s superglued together |
| 01:31.44 | Thunder_Child | hmm...somehow i have 70gb worth of games |
| 01:33.21 | Cidan | only? |
| 01:33.24 | Cidan | :x |
| 01:33.45 | Thunder_Child | i usualy only play 1-3 at a time |
| 01:33.56 | Thunder_Child | not including the various beta games |
| 01:34.28 | Nom- | It's far too easy to fill up 1TB of space these days |
| 01:34.45 | buu | Yeah, all you need is about 20 complete tv shows. |
| 01:35.17 | buu | You know what would be interesting? |
| 01:35.17 | Thunder_Child | ya, voyager took up a crap load |
| 01:35.39 | buu | A wow mechanic change: if you have 41 talent points in a tree you gain an extra talent point for that tree.. |
| 01:35.51 | buu | Thunder_Child: Voyager is only like 60gb |
| 01:36.04 | Thunder_Child | dvd rips? |
| 01:36.10 | Thunder_Child | or converted? |
| 01:36.12 | Mr_Rabies2 | that would be nice buu |
| 01:36.36 | Mr_Rabies2 | cause i could go 1/46/15, which doesn't give me much but eh |
| 01:36.42 | Mr_Rabies2 | extra point is an extra point |
| 01:36.51 | Mr_Rabies2 | or |
| 01:37.08 | Mr_Rabies2 | 0/46/16 :O |
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| 01:37.37 | buu | Thunder_Child: 350/45 minutes |
| 01:38.23 | Thunder_Child | it's 60gb if your talking about ~350mb/ep |
| 01:38.28 | buu | Mr_Rabies2: Yeah, I don't think it would create any major broken builds or anything, but it would be nice to fill out some gaps |
| 01:39.21 | Mr_Rabies2 | http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=0ZxGMsfroeuioVxfz |
| 01:39.22 | Mr_Rabies2 | i dunno |
| 01:39.48 | buu | It's interesting what just one more point would unlcok though |
| 01:40.13 | Thunder_Child | bah, vista fails...it's toping out at around 12mb/sec transfer between 2 sata drives |
| 01:40.57 | Mr_Rabies2 | thinking about this build for current ruleset: |
| 01:40.58 | Mr_Rabies2 | http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=0ZxGGsfroeuioVxoz |
| 01:41.20 | Mr_Rabies2 | that or http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=0ZxGMsfroeuioVxsz |
| 01:41.22 | Mr_Rabies2 | i dunno |
| 01:41.33 | Mr_Rabies2 | i don't really have rage problems so the enrage buff isn't too big of a deal |
| 01:41.46 | buu | Heh, There are actually people planning 80 point builds with the current talent trees |
| 01:41.50 | buu | It's sort of amazing |
| 01:42.11 | buu | I suppose blizzard compltely fuck up all of the 41-51 talents.. but it seems unlikely. |
| 01:42.54 | Mr_Rabies2 | they'll probably start out awesome for us then get nerfed down over time, just like the current feral tree :[ |
| 01:44.11 | buu | Well, still, I have high hopes that going for a 51 talent is going to beat a 41+21 |
| 01:45.41 | mikma | http://eu.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Kazzak&n=Shaks |
| 01:45.47 | mikma | http://wow.curse.com/articles/details/3076/ |
| 01:45.54 | mikma | both links related |
| 01:47.59 | GofG | Does anyone here know how long you can be in jail for cyberterrorism? |
| 01:48.39 | buu | ... what? |
| 01:48.50 | GofG | ....hypothetically... |
| 01:48.55 | mikma | lifetime |
| 01:49.17 | mikma | between 0 to n+1 |
| 01:49.46 | buu | Yeah |
| 01:49.51 | GofG | :( |
| 01:49.55 | buu | At a pure guess, for a single count, probably 25 years |
| 01:50.00 | Kirov | mikma - do you have the flight form trinket? |
| 01:50.00 | buu | They seem to like that number |
| 01:50.11 | buu | But I'm sure you could easily get multiple counts ore aggravated circumstances. |
| 01:50.12 | GofG | It couldn't possibly be less? |
| 01:50.15 | buu | Why? |
| 01:50.23 | mikma | Kirov: nope, my char is only 40+ |
| 01:50.26 | Kirov | doh |
| 01:50.32 | GofG | No reason >.< |
| 01:51.21 | mikma | so how many years are you expecting then? |
| 01:51.26 | mikma | when will the result be announced? |
| 01:52.54 | GofG | Do you guys think that a DoS on someone which leads to the eventual crash of a Department of Defense network server could count as cyberterrorism? |
| 01:53.01 | Mr_Rabies2 | it probably depends entirely on the server |
| 01:53.04 | buu | Ok really, how fast are taxi mounts? |
| 01:53.09 | Mr_Rabies2 | er |
| 01:53.14 | Mr_Rabies2 | it probably depends entirely on the country |
| 01:53.25 | GofG | US |
| 01:53.55 | Mr_Rabies2 | i'd say yes, a DoS on Dept of Defense servers is cyberterrorism |
| 01:54.00 | Mr_Rabies2 | and generally not a good idea |
| 01:54.13 | GofG | But lets say you didn't know that that particular IP address was the IP address of a DoD machine |
| 01:54.14 | Kirov | buu - somewhere between 100%-500% speed |
| 01:54.18 | *** join/#wowi-lounge dylanm (n=dylanmor@c-69-241-235-52.hsd1.mi.comcast.net) |
| 01:54.27 | Kirov | buu - I've seen spikes close to 650 though |
| 01:54.37 | GofG | You thought it was a troll on a forum who was pretending to be an FBI agent |
| 01:54.39 | Mr_Rabies2 | GofG, i doubt that matters much :x |
| 01:54.46 | Mr_Rabies2 | did someone on 4chan say |
| 01:54.54 | Mr_Rabies2 | LOL GUYS HACK THIS DOOD HE WORKS FOR THE FBI |
| 01:54.58 | Kirov | Really, they average around 250-300 usually from what I can tell with my epic mount |
| 01:55.52 | GofG | No, lol |
| 01:56.29 | GofG | I know how to cover my tracks, Mr_Rabies2, but even I wouldn't be stupid enough to DoS attack someone who might possibly be an FBI employee. |
| 01:56.45 | Mr_Rabies2 | i mean |
| 01:57.00 | Mr_Rabies2 | i'd at least run that shit through some tor servers if i were to do anything remotely that dumb |
| 01:57.00 | Mr_Rabies2 | :x |
| 01:57.12 | GofG | What it was, you see |
| 01:57.30 | GofG | I was on 420chan's IRC board |
| 01:57.39 | Kaydeethree | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:57.53 | mikma | oh... |
| 01:58.03 | mikma | i know something better to clear logs |
| 01:58.05 | mikma | just a sec |
| 01:58.12 | GofG | someone came in under a @bellsouth.net IP address |
| 01:58.19 | GofG | and told us that he was from the DoD |
| 01:58.24 | buu | Kirov: 650% speed... right.. |
| 01:58.31 | GofG | and he was going to try to get the FBI to shut us down |
| 01:58.57 | Kaydeethree | woo for unsubstantiated threats |
| 01:59.19 | Mr_Rabies2 | 420chan has had some some runins with the law |
| 01:59.25 | Mr_Rabies2 | most of the chans have :/ |
| 01:59.25 | GofG | I did what any /b/tard would do |
| 01:59.35 | GofG | I DoS'd his IP address |
| 01:59.42 | GofG | which was completely unprotected on a whoois |
| 01:59.44 | GofG | whois, rather |
| 01:59.52 | buu | A cable modem doesn't really count as a dos. |
| 01:59.53 | Mr_Rabies2 | was it .asm.bellsouth.net? |
| 02:00.09 | GofG | Well... I got a LOT of people to DoS |
| 02:00.09 | Mr_Rabies2 | what was the subdomain of bellsouth |
| 02:00.32 | GofG | I forget at this point, I wasn't keeping careful attention and since then I have wiped my hard drive. |
| 02:00.34 | GofG | <-- newfag |
| 02:00.36 | GofG | Anyway |
| 02:00.37 | Mr_Rabies2 | hahaha |
| 02:00.53 | mikma | gah, can't find the link from log :( |
| 02:01.08 | GofG | Later I did a quick whois on the actual IP address |
| 02:01.40 | GofG | ...pentagon ftw |
| 02:01.57 | GofG | So I probably didn't actually cause any damage |
| 02:02.02 | GofG | because they have uber protection |
| 02:02.06 | GofG | But still :/ |
| 02:02.07 | Mr_Rabies2 | well |
| 02:02.28 | Mr_Rabies2 | hahaha |
| 02:02.40 | mikma | duh |
| 02:02.45 | Wobin_ | 4chan hackers? |
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| 02:02.51 | Wobin_ | They do it "For the lulz" |
| 02:02.52 | mikma | well good luck to them if they want to catch you from that |
| 02:02.58 | Mr_Rabies2 | they're internet hate machines |
| 02:03.00 | Wobin_ | I saw it on Fox news |
| 02:03.02 | Wobin_ | It must be true |
| 02:03.04 | GofG | OMG I AM AN INTERNET HATE MACHINE. |
| 02:03.17 | Mr_Rabies2 | if you end up going to court |
| 02:03.19 | Mr_Rabies2 | just tell them |
| 02:03.20 | Kaydeethree | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:03.23 | Mr_Rabies2 | "i just did it for the lulz" |
| 02:03.26 | Mr_Rabies2 | and your e-cred |
| 02:03.29 | Mr_Rabies2 | will skyrocket |
| 02:03.32 | Wobin_ | s'true |
| 02:03.42 | Mr_Rabies2 | a few years in jail is worth all those internets |
| 02:03.50 | Wobin_ | You'll get on Fox News with subtitles about "MALICIOUS TYPING DETECTED" |
| 02:03.56 | GofG | Kaydeethree: I proudly wear my Brutal Gift 5.0b2 as my primary hacking script above Terminal, thx. |
| 02:04.11 | Mr_Rabies2 | i bet the department of defense bought a dog because of you, you monster |
| 02:04.15 | GofG | Oh noez. |
| 02:04.26 | GofG | Kaydeethree: (That was a joke, i was kidding) |
| 02:04.55 | Mr_Rabies2 | and not a vicious dog |
| 02:05.12 | Mr_Rabies2 | some cute little puppy that would be a pretty unsubstantial meat shield to anonymous |
| 02:05.19 | GofG | Srsly, though. I went before the honor council in 6th grade because I put a trojan on the school's headmaster's computer |
| 02:05.29 | GofG | I had no idea the internets were serious business. |
| 02:05.34 | GofG | Since then I've been pretty careful :) |
| 02:05.43 | Mr_Rabies2 | i've never done anything like that |
| 02:05.45 | GofG | and non-script-kiddie-like |
| 02:05.49 | Mr_Rabies2 | i like living here and not in jail |
| 02:05.59 | Mr_Rabies2 | though if it wasn't for the tough roommates |
| 02:05.59 | GofG | Scripts are dangerous because you don't know what the hell you are doing |
| 02:06.13 | Mr_Rabies2 | i want to move to sweden or wherever they have those superlush jails |
| 02:06.25 | GofG | Jail = White Collar Resort |
| 02:06.33 | Mr_Rabies2 | the cells are better living conditions than mine currently |
| 02:06.49 | Mr_Rabies2 | and i live in a fairly nice house |
| 02:06.52 | GofG | Unfortunatley I'm underaged b& so i'd be going to juvey. Juvey = White Collar Resort with a bunch of people who will beat me up. |
| 02:07.14 | mikma | . <- this is your butthole |
| 02:07.20 | mikma | O <- this is your butthole in prison |
| 02:07.26 | GofG | That's still pretty small. |
| 02:07.31 | Mr_Rabies2 | http://wwwc.aftonbladet.se/nyheter/0407/09/NYHETER-09s28-cell-82_368.jpg |
| 02:07.38 | Mr_Rabies2 | not too shabby |
| 02:07.44 | GofG | wwwc |
| 02:07.47 | GofG | ...raw? |
| 02:07.59 | GofG | lolol |
| 02:08.21 | Mr_Rabies2 | i'd murder someone if it meant i could live in a superlush jail like that |
| 02:08.30 | Mr_Rabies2 | i'm moving to sweden and going on a hooker killing spree brb |
| 02:08.55 | GofG | kkbai |
| 02:09.00 | GofG | enjoy your v& |
| 02:09.06 | GofG | Rofl guys: |
| 02:09.07 | GofG | http://img293.imageshack.us/img293/7577/picture1yb7.png |
| 02:09.16 | GofG | so i herd u liek mudkipz? |
| 02:09.31 | GofG | in b4 macfag btw |
| 02:10.48 | Nom- | yay |
| 02:10.53 | Nom- | we're finally recruiting a feral droodad |
| 02:11.01 | GofG | feral droodad ≠good. |
| 02:11.03 | Nom- | wtb more super cows! |
| 02:11.09 | GofG | feral droodad = weird |
| 02:11.23 | Nom- | feral druids rock |
| 02:11.49 | GofG | I have a general disdain for feral druids. |
| 02:11.58 | GofG | I tried to play one once. |
| 02:12.19 | GofG | I got my hotkeys mixed up and accidently tried to seal-form constantly |
| 02:12.21 | Nom- | Feral druids rock for so many fights |
| 02:12.32 | Nom- | Take Leotheras for instance |
| 02:12.40 | GofG | Haha, nice pun. |
| 02:12.48 | Nom- | You need 3 tanks at the start of the fight for the adds, but after that you just need dps |
| 02:13.02 | Nom- | Feral druid fits this role perfectly, bear form tankage, then cat form for dps |
| 02:13.34 | foxlit|mac | Tbh, I could probably tank those adds |
| 02:13.36 | Nom- | Right now we take 2 prot warriors and 2 dps warriors, one of whom tanks an add |
| 02:13.56 | Mr_Rabies2 | well |
| 02:13.59 | Mr_Rabies2 | if he's tanking |
| 02:14.05 | foxlit|mac | They don't exactly do a lot of damage |
| 02:14.09 | Mr_Rabies2 | his gear's tank based |
| 02:14.14 | Mr_Rabies2 | so he can't do crap for damage |
| 02:14.17 | Nom- | Nah, you could easily tank them in cat form |
| 02:14.21 | Nom- | in cat *gear* i mean |
| 02:14.36 | foxlit|mac | But you'd still want proper tanks for Leo |
| 02:14.37 | Nom- | They don't do that much damage, they just need someone to tank them properly, and a dps warrior in leather just doesn't cut it |
| 02:14.48 | foxlit|mac | And perhaps two to make "zomg, resisted" chains unlikely |
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| 02:15.09 | foxlit|mac | Moonkins are the answer, clearly |
| 02:15.21 | Nom- | For Leo himself, we would still use a prot warrior and a warlock fo sho |
| 02:15.48 | Nom- | We're on day 3 of attempts and don't have him down yet though unfortunately |
| 02:15.52 | foxlit|mac | Yeah, I don't think there's a way around that |
| 02:16.07 | Nom- | The last attempt yesterday we got him to 26% at the enrage timer |
| 02:16.22 | Nom- | We'll do better tonight, I'm sure |
| 02:16.31 | foxlit|mac | wts dps? |
| 02:16.31 | Nom- | Now that we've actually hit the enrage timer, we're getting close |
| 02:16.48 | Nom- | (Last boss for us before Vashj) |
| 02:18.19 | foxlit|mac | The only real problem you should be having is that healers may not be able to cope with inner demons |
| 02:18.38 | foxlit|mac | Beyond that, people not dying to whirlwind would make things rather trivial :) |
| 02:19.02 | buu | How afre you tanking demon form? |
| 02:19.25 | Cidan | Industrial, ping? |
| 02:20.05 | Kirov | Does anyknow in this channel have the flight form trinket? |
| 02:20.07 | foxlit|mac | http://www.bash.org/?758565 |
| 02:20.10 | foxlit|mac | I do |
| 02:20.26 | Kirov | foxlit|mac - would you be willing to test an addon? |
| 02:20.48 | foxlit|mac | If you want results now, you'd be better of asking someone else |
| 02:20.57 | foxlit|mac | Otherwise, toss me a link and I'll take a look at it tomorrow |
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| 02:21.57 | Wobin_ | !c us argent dawn adanuora |
| 02:21.59 | ThraeBot | Wobin_: Adanuora, Level 70 Night Elf Druid (0/0/61). 6544 HP; 6950 Mana; 261 mana regen; 67 mp5; 97.400 Melee DPS; 5.62% melee crit; 4 spell crit; 12 +spell dmg; 825 +heal; 6.74% dodge; 10 nature resist (+10);[[ TBR: 1232 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/2266a4 ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/2uftf3 ][ Updated: Sun Sep 16 22:35:15 2007 EST ]] |
| 02:22.15 | Wobin_ | !c us argent dawn falindinna |
| 02:22.17 | ThraeBot | Wobin_: Falindinna, Level 70 Night Elf Druid (0/18/43). 8074 HP; 4340 Mana; 126 mana regen; 19 mp5; 704 AP; 110.500 Melee DPS; 20.44% melee crit; 57 melee hit; 26.43% dodge; 10 nature resist (+10); +33 all resists (+10 nature);[[ TBR: 387 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/yrkvdz ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/2ux2jp ][ Updated: Sun Sep 16 22:35:32 2007 EST ]] |
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| 02:25.13 | Nom- | Anyone seen any blue posts announcing when patch day is ? |
| 02:25.17 | Nom- | (Hoping it's this week) |
| 02:25.57 | foxlit|mac | blue.cardplace.com |
| 02:25.58 | foxlit|mac | no |
| 02:26.10 | foxlit|mac | (and http://www.bash.org/?21985 for no reason whatsoever) |
| 02:30.37 | JoshBorke | !help |
| 02:30.55 | Kaydeethree | Don't Panic. |
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| 02:49.16 | Corrodias | i need a couple million dollars |
| 02:49.19 | Corrodias | that's all i need |
| 03:00.38 | Tierrie | my favorite speech this year was by a gorgeous woman |
| 03:02.41 | Phylactery | Is there anything special I need to do to be able to use AddMessage on a ScrollingMessageFrame? I have the frame but I can't get messages on it. |
| 03:05.30 | Kirov | Phylactery - not really, no |
| 03:06.41 | Phylactery | Hrmm... |
| 03:09.13 | Phylactery | No amount of line removal make the AddMessage work, It shows up on my screen but... http://wowi.pastey.net/73937 |
| 03:10.43 | *** join/#wowi-lounge Cidan (i=feh@conspiracy/developer/Cidan) |
| 03:31.08 | Kirov | Phylactery - it errors at "SetInsertMode" |
| 03:32.12 | Kirov | Phylactery - ScrollingMessageFrame does not have that method, only MessageFrame has that |
| 03:32.51 | Phylactery | Kirov, point, but even if everything between the border and the Add Message is commented out it still won't print it. |
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| 03:42.58 | Kirov | Phylactery - add f.msg:SetFontObject(ChatFontNormal) |
| 03:43.26 | Kirov | instead of SetFont |
| 03:43.52 | Phylactery | Hey, there we go! |
| 03:44.56 | Kirov | Anyone who's still on have the flight form trinket? |
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| 04:02.05 | buu | Hello kitty island adventure indeed. |
| 04:04.31 | Shirik | Whoooooooo |
| 04:04.36 | Shirik | I was #2 in healing on one of our attempts |
| 04:04.40 | Shirik | With 11k effective healing |
| 04:05.00 | Shirik | lol we screwed up so bad |
| 04:05.05 | |Jelly| | Is that Shirik using a damage meter?! |
| 04:05.10 | Shirik | negative, wowwebstats |
| 04:05.12 | Shirik | http://www.lossendil.com/wws/?report=jgzmas2hm1ylu |
| 04:05.27 | Shirik | I died a lot :( |
| 04:05.29 | Shirik | It was depressing |
| 04:05.50 | Shirik | One time I died, and Iw as like "You see that there, I was the only one around to get a heal off, and what's the price I pay? Gaining aggro on everything" |
| 04:05.59 | Shirik | (Only the tank ran forward nobody else was paying attention) |
| 04:06.10 | Shirik | So what happens? Next pull, I die again because half the raid got feared or something |
| 04:12.30 | Shirik | I love how WWS says I cast a lifebloom |
| 04:12.39 | Esamynn | Kirov: you still looking for someone with the Flight Form trinket? |
| 04:18.17 | Shirik|AFK | http://youtube.com/watch?v=qDSGmx8c2AM |
| 04:18.18 | Shirik|AFK | enjoy |
| 04:18.21 | Shirik|AFK | /afk |
| 04:19.24 | Cairenn | Shirik|AFK: o.O |
| 04:19.37 | Shirik|AFK | you totally have to wait for the ninjas |
| 04:19.45 | Shirik|AFK | seriously though going to burger king bbl |
| 04:20.39 | Cidan | rofl |
| 04:20.45 | Cidan | <3 that Shirik. |
| 04:20.52 | Cairenn | rofl |
| 04:21.04 | Cidan | This is why he's my partner and not anyone elses. |
| 04:21.07 | Cidan | He's just 2 kool. |
| 04:22.07 | Mr_Rabies2 | i wonder how long it took to be able to sing the song in a semi-round like that |
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| 04:24.35 | Tierrie | that algorithm march makes no sense |
| 04:24.37 | Tierrie | so funy though |
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| 04:35.43 | Shirik|AFK | Oh, but it gets better |
| 04:35.49 | Shirik | that's not even the beginnings |
| 04:36.00 | Shirik | The world record holders: http://youtube.com/watch?v=WjMd2Vabcv8&mode=related&search= |
| 04:36.05 | Shirik | 967 people |
| 04:36.09 | Shirik | 56 columns |
| 04:36.55 | buu | What the heck is the point |
| 04:37.04 | Shirik | it's a children's show :P |
| 04:37.06 | Shirik | There is no point |
| 04:39.07 | Shirik | skip to 3:00 if you want :P |
| 04:39.09 | buu | How horrifying. |
| 04:39.15 | Shirik | hey |
| 04:39.17 | Shirik | they broke the law |
| 04:39.19 | Shirik | they deserve it |
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| 04:41.11 | buu | http://youtube.com/watch?v=hMnk7lh9M3o&mode=related&search= |
| 04:43.07 | Shirik | awesome. |
| 04:43.07 | buu | That's oddly cool. |
| 04:43.09 | Shirik | I love these guys |
| 04:45.00 | buu | Yeah |
| 04:45.11 | buu | It seems like such a good way to keep them out of trouble |
| 04:45.24 | buu | I'm not sure I'd really want to dress up like a woman in the middle of a prison though |
| 04:45.58 | Kirov | buu - you never know, he might always dress like that |
| 04:46.19 | Kirov | (and that's only partially a joke) |
| 04:46.35 | buu | Yeah. |
| 04:46.56 | buu | Well, considering every other person was wearing an orange jump suit |
| 04:46.59 | buu | It seems unlikely. |
| 04:47.16 | Esamynn | Kirov: you still looking for someone with the Flight Form trinket? |
| 04:47.37 | Kirov | Esamynn - yes please |
| 04:47.44 | Esamynn | what do you need? |
| 04:47.56 | buu | Oh my, dancing zombies. |
| 04:47.58 | Kirov | I wanted to see if my updated SimpleMountEquip works |
| 04:48.01 | Kirov | before releasing |
| 04:48.10 | Esamynn | ahh |
| 04:48.37 | Esamynn | esamynn@wowinterface.com I'll test it for you in the morning |
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| 04:48.56 | Kirov | thanks |
| 04:50.05 | Shirik | imo premium members should get wowi email addresses |
| 04:50.09 | Shirik | dolby-wowi! chop chop! |
| 04:50.28 | Shirik | =P |
| 04:51.14 | art3mis | exchange accounts!@ |
| 04:51.21 | art3mis | so we can fileshare and contact list share! |
| 04:51.41 | Shirik | http://youtube.com/watch?v=lAVVVMcTShQ&mode=related&search= |
| 04:51.44 | Shirik | omg these guys are awesome |
| 04:53.40 | art3mis | welcome to last month |
| 04:54.54 | Kirov | One of the things thats interesting about american prisons vs. this one ... in an american prison they'd never let this many people be in one spot at once |
| 04:55.30 | Kirov | That is likely every inmate in the entire prison in one room |
| 04:55.30 | art3mis | but |
| 04:55.47 | art3mis | if they did the american one would have better rythm and soul |
| 04:55.54 | art3mis | american prisons have no white people |
| 04:56.01 | art3mis | because everyone knows they cant dance |
| 04:56.02 | Kirov | lol |
| 04:56.31 | art3mis | ya know what state i love? |
| 04:56.34 | art3mis | arizona |
| 04:56.42 | art3mis | that one sherrif is awesome |
| 04:57.21 | art3mis | he turned the prison over to the ASPCA when they had a hosue shortage for abandoned pets, makes all his prisoners wear pink and the only way you eat is if you work for it |
| 04:57.34 | art3mis | he took the entire prison out into the desert and set up tents |
| 04:57.39 | art3mis | it was classic |
| 04:58.04 | art3mis | because of this one guy crime in the stat has dropped for fear of ended up in his prison |
| 04:58.30 | Kirov | There's a prison some place in the US, can't remember where, but it has no wall or fence around it. So far, only one person has ever "escaped" from it. |
| 04:58.53 | Kirov | Not because there are other things preventing people from leaving, but because no one tries |
| 04:59.32 | Kirov | I'm torn between wondering if they lace the food with cocaine, or if the people in that part of the country are really _that_ dumb. |
| 05:00.01 | art3mis | heh i bet punishment for recapture is pretty abd |
| 05:00.13 | art3mis | it could also fall on the theory of global punishment |
| 05:00.21 | art3mis | one of you does something bad you ALL pay |
| 05:00.35 | art3mis | so fear keeps people from doing bad things |
| 05:00.43 | Kirov | There's a ST:TNG about a perfect society where any crime's punishment was death |
| 05:00.47 | art3mis | not so much from the system but from fellow inmates |
| 05:01.02 | art3mis | i like red dwarf's |
| 05:01.09 | art3mis | the justice field |
| 05:01.17 | art3mis | anything you do to someone is revisted 4 fold |
| 05:01.27 | Kirov | art3mis - red dwarf is awesome |
| 05:01.39 | art3mis | yeah been netflixing and ripping em |
| 05:01.50 | buu | Oh man, I love wikipedia |
| 05:02.18 | art3mis | did it tell you that you're cool? |
| 05:02.27 | Cairenn | Kirov: it is most likely a minimum security institution, and they don't "escape" because they know if walk away, they get re-captured and have additional time added to their sentence, which bumps them into a medium security institution, which isn't nearly as nice a place to be even discounting the additional time they will have to serve |
| 05:02.38 | Cairenn | if they walk* |
| 05:02.39 | buu | art3mis: Yes. |
| 05:03.28 | Cidan | There are plenty of minimum security prisons in the US |
| 05:03.33 | Cidan | they are pretty much resorts |
| 05:03.39 | Cidan | private "cells" |
| 05:03.42 | Kirov | Anyone else seen this sentance? "Buffalo buffalo Buffalo buffalo buffalo buffalo Buffalo buffalo". |
| 05:03.55 | Cidan | Kirov, old as ages, :P |
| 05:04.17 | art3mis | only if you s/Buffalo buffalo/Oklahoma Oklahama/g |
| 05:04.19 | Kirov | Just saw it today for the first time. Pissed off my girlfriend when I tried to explain it to her. |
| 05:04.43 | Cairenn | well, I wouldn't go so far as to say "resorts", but they are relatively nice and most people in them don't want to serve any more time or end up in a medium |
| 05:07.06 | Cidan | Here in the US, some minimum security cells are better than some college dorm rooms. |
| 05:07.28 | art3mis | cidan: only cuz they get more money alloted |
| 05:07.34 | Cidan | right. :P |
| 05:07.40 | art3mis | you just need more reknowned professors ;P |
| 05:07.40 | Cidan | What does that tell you about our system, hmm? |
| 05:07.52 | art3mis | that i need to open a prison |
| 05:07.55 | amro|laptop | I don't get that, getting detention in high school is worse than some of those institutions |
| 05:08.28 | art3mis | there's no money for the school to turn out brilliant people so why bother ;P |
| 05:08.46 | art3mis | besides if it werent for the money attached most americans would be useless ;) |
| 05:09.11 | art3mis | and very few wealthy companies are actually good to work for, and are clean as far as work ethics go |
| 05:10.21 | art3mis | im stoked |
| 05:10.30 | art3mis | Dethklok is back next sunday |
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| 05:17.27 | Shirik | 14(0111:0211:0414) 14(1115Kirov14) Anyone else seen this sentance? "Buffalo buffalo Buffalo buffalo buffalo buffalo Buffalo buffalo". |
| 05:17.28 | Shirik | confused |
| 05:18.23 | Kirov | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buffalo_buffalo |
| 05:20.28 | ScytheBlade1 | I've seen that, yeah. It's old. |
| 05:43.21 | Esamynn | good night all |
| 05:43.28 | Kirov | night |
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| 05:57.39 | ckknight | buffalo buffalo buffalo buffalo buffalo buffalo buffalo |
| 05:57.54 | ckknight | buffalo buffalo your mom buffalo buffalo |
| 05:57.56 | Phylactery | you need some capitalization in there |
| 06:02.30 | MentalPower | ~lart ckknight |
| 06:02.30 | purl | executes killall -HUP ckknight |
| 06:03.17 | Olison | lol at that lart |
| 06:03.38 | MentalPower | anyways, how do you make a button at least as big as the text its going to hold? |
| 06:03.53 | MentalPower | note that the text will be of arbitrary length |
| 06:04.06 | Kirov | MentalPower - you want it to auto resize? |
| 06:04.24 | MentalPower | sort of, the text once set will not change |
| 06:05.06 | Kirov | make the button w/ the text, and make the button absurdly wide |
| 06:05.18 | Kirov | then do a GetWidth() on the text object |
| 06:05.29 | Kirov | add 8 to that |
| 06:05.58 | Kirov | actually, I take that back |
| 06:06.13 | Kirov | just make a fontstring with the text and check it's size |
| 06:06.34 | Kirov | The button's text object will be sized up with the button |
| 06:06.40 | Kirov | Personally, I'm just lazy and guess |
| 06:22.15 | Rallion | Nintendo needs to repair my freaking Wii and send it back. |
| 06:22.26 | Rallion | Just pop in a new GPU, guys! |
| 06:24.00 | Kirov | Rallion - going for an GeForce 8800 Ultra upgrade? |
| 06:25.27 | Thunder_Child | a wii wouldnt know what to do with one |
| 06:25.39 | Rallion | Kirov, I just want one that doesn't have massive amounts of artifacting |
| 06:25.55 | Rallion | Anyway, this box has an 8800 in it already. |
| 06:28.54 | Kirov | Can you imagine ... 1080p Wii Tennis! |
| 06:31.19 | ckknight | Wii Boxing ftw |
| 06:35.30 | Thunder_Child | night (ish) Cairenn|afk |
| 06:37.21 | Shirik | night guys |
| 06:37.23 | Shirik | night Cairenn|afk |
| 06:37.31 | Thunder_Child | ~lart Shirik|zZz |
| 06:37.31 | purl | readies the nuke launcher and fires some rounds at Shirik|zZz |
| 06:37.44 | Shirik|zZz | ~whaleparry Thunder_Child |
| 06:37.44 | purl | ACTION uses a slightly less-huge but eminently more agile killer whale named Edwardo to parry Thunder_Child's attacks. |
| 06:37.58 | Thunder_Child | ~bzfrag Shirik|zZz |
| 06:37.58 | purl | ACTION blindsides Shirik|zZz with an invisible bullet |
| 06:38.53 | Thunder_Child | http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=MR2WwyAj5mM |
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| 06:41.29 | Shirik|zZz | rofl |
| 06:41.44 | Shirik|zZz | So this lab I'm teaching, the instructor got mad at the class for unreadable code |
| 06:41.47 | Shirik|zZz | here's the announcement he wrote |
| 06:41.50 | Shirik|zZz | "In addition: make sure to comment your code, use proper Java naming convention for class files (Capitalize the first letter of each class), either use camelCase or an_underscore for variable names, instead of using onelongunreadable word. Points will be taken off otherwise." |
| 06:41.57 | Shirik|zZz | I like "onelongunreadableword" |
| 06:42.19 | Mr_Rabies2 | maybe that was intentional :O |
| 06:42.29 | Thunder_Child | sounds like a teacher with a sense of humor |
| 06:42.34 | Shirik|zZz | Behi is awesome |
| 06:42.39 | Thunder_Child | it was Mr_Rabies2 |
| 06:43.00 | Thunder_Child | he was pointing it out, along with "an_underscore" and "camelCase" |
| 06:43.19 | Shirik|zZz | http://ratemyprofessors.com/ShowRatings.jsp?tid=289033 |
| 06:43.25 | Shirik|zZz | "His lectures are always on task, yet he is never boring. If you say you don't understand something, he will explain it multiple times. He has NEVER been condescending, you just need to understand his wry humor! However, you do need to study. His tests/projects aren't a breeze, but they are straight forward and reasonable. Study=success! BEHI ROCKS!" |
| 06:43.29 | Shirik|zZz | He really is awesome :P |
| 06:43.56 | Shirik|zZz | some people don't like him but yeah |
| 06:44.04 | Thunder_Child | florida huh |
| 06:45.19 | Kirov | Did you know that every year MIT students vote a teacher as "Best Teacher", they get fired? |
| 06:45.28 | Shirik|zZz | wow |
| 06:45.38 | Shirik|zZz | That's wierd |
| 06:45.49 | Shirik|zZz | We're actually required to take evaluations at the end of each course |
| 06:46.09 | Shirik|zZz | And they're taken pretty seriously. One was fired for having a horrible evaluation last year |
| 06:46.17 | Shirik|zZz | And he really was a horrible teacher too |
| 06:46.17 | Kirov | MIT Professors are supposed to be doing research for the school. If students like them it means they're spending too much time with students and not enough time on research. |
| 06:46.20 | Kirov | ie: they get fired |
| 06:47.13 | Shirik|zZz | BTW |
| 06:47.17 | Shirik|zZz | I would like to point out |
| 06:47.33 | Shirik|zZz | the moron that wrote the bad review of Behi? Saying class averages were 69s and that he was thrown out of his office? |
| 06:47.50 | Mr_Rabies2 | probably a plant |
| 06:47.51 | Shirik|zZz | He marked down the class that he took with him as "ECE 320". FYI, that class is supposed to be called "CEC 320" |
| 06:47.55 | Thunder_Child | wow...my school has "Total professors: 1320" |
| 06:48.06 | Shirik|zZz | That shows how much of a moron that guy is |
| 06:48.25 | Shirik|zZz | We do not have an "ECE" |
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| 06:50.05 | Thunder_Child | thats just weird....what you anyone say is the largest school in the world? |
| 06:50.45 | Shirik|zZz | Be careful with "Total professors" |
| 06:50.52 | Shirik|zZz | that could just be influenced by turnover rate ;) |
| 06:50.58 | Shirik|zZz | I think it's just the number of professors that have been rated |
| 06:51.22 | Thunder_Child | i dunno...the ammount of classes they have is....many |
| 06:52.19 | Thunder_Child | it's also prolly the richest comunity college in the world...but i could be wrong |
| 06:53.03 | Shirik|zZz | anyway, I gotta head to bed |
| 06:53.03 | Shirik|zZz | night |
| 06:53.20 | Thunder_Child | you said that 16 min ago |
| 06:53.28 | Thunder_Child | /sigh, night |
| 06:56.10 | Shirik|zZz | Hm |
| 06:56.22 | Shirik|zZz | my guild posted a raid strategy and says "Please sign read and understood" |
| 06:56.29 | Shirik|zZz | I'm debating replying with "SYN/ACK" |
| 06:57.38 | zenzelezz | I find it peculiar how you keep debating things only with yourself |
| 06:57.38 | krka_ | robert jordan died yesterday :( |
| 06:57.46 | Shirik|zZz | I like to debate things with myself |
| 06:57.56 | Thunder_Child | (23:53:07) (Shirik|zZz) anyway, I gotta head to bed |
| 06:57.56 | Thunder_Child | (23:53:08) (Shirik|zZz) night |
| 06:58.01 | Shirik|zZz | quiet you! |
| 06:58.05 | Shirik|zZz | I will decide when I go to bed! |
| 06:58.06 | krka_ | so you're a master debater Shirik|zZz? |
| 06:58.10 | Shirik|zZz | Besides, I learned from Cairenn|afk |
| 06:58.14 | Thunder_Child | no kidding |
| 06:58.15 | Shirik|zZz | krka_: I try to be |
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| 07:00.12 | Thunder_Child | http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=O1-NZWtTJYI |
| 07:10.59 | Tierrie | <PROTECTED> |
| 07:11.02 | Tierrie | Robert Jordan died |
| 07:12.59 | Thunder_Child | what? |
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| 07:13.31 | Kirov | Sweet, with 2.2.0 my item database addon doesn't crash |
| 07:15.14 | Thunder_Child | Tierrie, that sucks, though it looks like his last book will still be published |
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| 07:18.59 | Mr_Rabies2 | you know |
| 07:19.07 | Mr_Rabies2 | i used to think "here we are now, entertain us" |
| 07:19.13 | Mr_Rabies2 | was "here we are now, eat potatoes" |
| 07:19.29 | Mr_Rabies2 | freakin grunge :\ |
| 07:19.31 | Thunder_Child | "the more you know" |
| 07:20.12 | Kirov | Go go meloncoly seattlites |
| 07:24.25 | Mr_Rabies2 | i'm not a big fan of 90s music in general :x |
| 07:25.17 | Mr_Rabies2 | i'd rather listen to Ratt than Nirvana, and that's not saying much |
| 07:25.38 | Mr_Rabies2 | http://youtube.com/watch?v=a5gMeXz2YMw |
| 07:25.45 | |Jelly|zZz | !c us burning legion jelly |
| 07:25.47 | ThraeBot | |Jelly|zZz: Jelly, Level 70 Blood Elf Priest (23/38/0). 6621 HP; 9885 Mana; 342 mana regen; 123 mp5; 90 +spell dmg; 1623 +heal; 5.06% dodge; 18 resilience;[[ TBR: 644 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/yrmc88 ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/2mw2d7 ][ Updated: Sat Sep 15 23:48:20 2007 EST ]] |
| 07:26.07 | Mr_Rabies2 | !c us llane raybeez |
| 07:26.09 | ThraeBot | Mr_Rabies2: Raybeez, Level 70 Night Elf Druid (1/46/14). 9914 HP; 5345 Mana; 101 mana regen; 5174 Armour; 102.600 Melee DPS; 9.04% melee crit; 8 melee hit; 158 defense; 18.66% dodge; 10 nature resist (+10);[[ TBR: 495 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/ysaqve ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/2nkh3d ][ Updated: Mon Sep 17 03:39:26 2007 EST ]] |
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| 07:26.33 | Mr_Rabies2 | looks like bear gear in caster form |
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| 07:32.39 | zenzelezz | know what I find to be the best part of being a warrior tanking the demon phase of Leotheras? I don't have to worry about my inner demon |
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| 07:56.39 | Mr_Rabies2 | ~Mr_Rabies |
| 07:56.42 | Mr_Rabies2 | ~emulate Mr_Rabies |
| 07:56.52 | Mr_Rabies2 | ~emulate Mr_Rabies2 |
| 07:56.53 | purl | BATS! Bats. BaTs? |
| 07:56.53 | Mr_Rabies2 | :x |
| 07:56.56 | Mr_Rabies2 | http://shirt.woot.com/ |
| 07:57.00 | Mr_Rabies2 | i don't understand :[ |
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| 08:09.53 | Wobin_ | How many instances can you do in one hour? |
| 08:10.14 | zenzelezz | you mean how many take less than an hour? |
| 08:10.17 | Kirov | All of them? |
| 08:10.26 | Kalroth | 5 unique instances, I think |
| 08:10.27 | Kirov | (you didn't say finish them) |
| 08:10.41 | Kalroth | It might be 6, it's been a while since I last reached the limit :p |
| 08:13.15 | Wobin_ | yeah |
| 08:13.20 | Wobin_ | I'm not -doing- them perse |
| 08:13.24 | Wobin_ | just farming a single mob |
| 08:14.02 | zenzelezz | out of curiosity, which one? |
| 08:14.06 | cryogen | it's 5 |
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| 08:20.28 | Wobin_ | Auchenal Monks |
| 08:20.34 | Wobin_ | Auchenal |
| 08:20.51 | Wobin_ | for the felsteel gloves pattern |
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| 09:05.34 | sag_ich_nicht | there |
| 09:05.48 | sag_ich_nicht | clad|sleep i just gave you another perfect raid user |
| 09:05.48 | sag_ich_nicht | :P |
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| 11:25.57 | bleeter | lolzers http://www.reuters.com/article/newsOne/idUSL1039839820070917 |
| 11:27.30 | zenzelezz | yup |
| 11:27.43 | zenzelezz | they can still appeal one more time if they feel like it |
| 11:28.27 | bleeter | but only on points of law, not fact |
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| 12:05.03 | Wobin_ | woot gruul as a rogue is heaps fun |
| 12:05.19 | Wobin_ | clos == no shatter damage |
| 12:05.32 | JoshBorke | lol |
| 12:05.50 | Wobin_ | except some fucker of a pally outrolled me on the leggings |
| 12:06.04 | Wobin_ | even though he'd got some defaulted loot beforehand =P |
| 12:06.06 | JoshBorke | pwned |
| 12:06.14 | Wobin_ | and a hunter outrolled me on the trophy |
| 12:06.27 | Wobin_ | but I'm happy with that, at least it went to a guldie =P |
| 12:07.03 | JoshBorke | i earned DKP for farming 2 primal waters and getting myself 20g |
| 12:08.13 | Wobin_ | we just do a flat 200 roll |
| 12:08.28 | Wobin_ | cause meh, it doesn't really matter =P |
| 12:08.44 | Wobin_ | and it's hard to get people in our time zone to raid |
| 12:08.59 | Wobin_ | which is why we had 6(?) hunters |
| 12:09.04 | Wobin_ | and two rogues |
| 12:09.08 | Wobin_ | and one warlock |
| 12:09.17 | Wobin_ | and no feral druids |
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| 12:10.44 | JoshBorke | i have no real intention of using my DKP until BT/Hyjal |
| 12:10.57 | Wobin_ | hehe we'll never get there |
| 12:11.10 | JoshBorke | i don't think we will either ;-) |
| 12:11.23 | Wobin_ | on the one hand, that's bad, on the other, I could never devote enough time that a BT raiding guild would require |
| 12:11.39 | Wobin_ | I'd prefer to say "Soz, going out with friends tonight, can't raid" |
| 12:11.47 | JoshBorke | same |
| 12:17.48 | JoshBorke | ~dict crass |
| 12:21.06 | Wobin_ | someone accuse you of being crass? =) |
| 12:21.32 | JoshBorke | no, i was gonna accuse you :-P |
| 12:27.08 | Wobin_ | whyfor? |
| 12:27.24 | Wobin_ | So you were going to accuse me with an insult you had to look up the definition to? =) |
| 12:28.34 | JoshBorke | Wobin_: i wanted to make sure it was an appropriate insult, turns out it wasn't |
| 12:28.39 | JoshBorke | ~lart Wobin_ |
| 12:28.39 | purl | beats Wobin_ severely about the head and shoulders with a rubber chicken |
| 12:28.45 | Wobin_ | tch tch |
| 12:29.20 | JoshBorke | englash not so ez |
| 12:29.20 | Wobin_ | english is easy |
| 12:29.20 | Wobin_ | you just have to remember that everything has an exception |
| 12:37.47 | krka_ | no, not _everything_ |
| 12:38.50 | Wobin_ | oh yeah |
| 12:38.53 | Wobin_ | everything =P |
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| 12:45.01 | sag_ich_nicht | ... |
| 12:45.09 | sag_ich_nicht | ~lart JoshBorke |
| 12:45.09 | purl | installs a bad bootloader on JoshBorke and turns JoshBorke into a brick |
| 12:45.11 | sag_ich_nicht | ~lart Wobin_ |
| 12:45.11 | purl | blasts Wobin_ with a huge firehose then strangles Wobin_ with it |
| 12:45.17 | JoshBorke | ~lart sag_ich_nicht |
| 12:45.17 | purl | takes out a seltzer bottle and sprays sag_ich_nicht in the face. You know, one of those old-school seltzer bottles clowns have? Yeah those. Anyway, consider yourself spritzed |
| 12:45.29 | sag_ich_nicht | awesome |
| 12:45.33 | sag_ich_nicht | it's hot here anyway |
| 12:45.34 | sag_ich_nicht | \o/ |
| 12:47.21 | Wobin_ | ~lart sag_ich_nicht |
| 12:47.21 | purl | squeezes sag_ich_nicht till sag_ich_nicht turns blue like papa smurf |
| 12:47.31 | Wobin_ | la la la la-la-la |
| 12:48.02 | sag_ich_nicht | cool. |
| 12:48.07 | sag_ich_nicht | can i have a papa smurf drink too? |
| 12:48.34 | Wobin_ | is that something with a lot of curacao? |
| 12:49.26 | Wobin_ | ah |
| 12:49.27 | Wobin_ | http://www.drinkswap.com/drinks/detail.asp?recipe_id=5836 |
| 12:50.29 | sag_ich_nicht | noo |
| 12:50.31 | sag_ich_nicht | that's all wrong |
| 12:50.44 | sag_ich_nicht | papa smurf=Harakiri + Gletschereis |
| 12:50.45 | sag_ich_nicht | :X |
| 12:51.17 | sag_ich_nicht | makes you insta drunk. |
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| 12:54.22 | art3mis | mountain dew + disarano ammaretto == alcoholic jolt cola ;P |
| 12:55.27 | sag_ich_nicht | NO |
| 12:55.35 | sag_ich_nicht | you disgusting pig |
| 12:55.44 | sag_ich_nicht | don't you mix mountain dew with ammaretto |
| 12:55.49 | sag_ich_nicht | you mix it with applejuice |
| 12:55.51 | art3mis | yes you do |
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| 12:56.01 | art3mis | it tastes like jolt cola it's awesome |
| 12:56.11 | art3mis | amarretto and applejuice? |
| 12:56.15 | art3mis | thats disgusting |
| 12:56.17 | sag_ich_nicht | no |
| 12:56.19 | sag_ich_nicht | try it |
| 12:56.21 | sag_ich_nicht | it is delicious |
| 12:56.34 | art3mis | when im out i drink disarano sours |
| 12:56.49 | art3mis | not a big apple fan |
| 12:57.37 | art3mis | strangely i believe this is a carry over from computers ;P |
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| 13:02.59 | mikma | ok now, we talked about clearing logs last night... |
| 13:03.05 | mikma | here's my solution: http://lada.takaisin.fi/gallery/Paikkali/Kuva_443 |
| 13:04.43 | Lopeppeppy | I can learn to like that solution.... |
| 13:06.39 | bleeter | http://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/that_lovin_feelin.png |
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| 13:07.10 | Lopeppeppy | Bleeter! So cynical this early? |
| 13:07.49 | bleeter | sif early |
| 13:07.51 | bleeter | Mon Sep 17 23:07:51 EST 2007 |
| 13:09.52 | mikma | http://www.vix.dk/v/204972 :D |
| 13:15.03 | Maldivia | cute |
| 13:17.37 | Wobin_ | hehe |
| 13:24.28 | art3mis | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8tdiOD0jK1o&mode=related&search= |
| 13:24.32 | art3mis | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nYzsskE5ObA |
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| 13:35.41 | foxlit|mac | weee |
| 13:36.09 | foxlit|mac | I can now add TGA->PNG to my collection of lua converters |
| 13:39.30 | sag_ich_nicht | that's nice. |
| 13:39.35 | sag_ich_nicht | my progressive JPG > your PNG |
| 13:40.55 | MoonWolf | not really |
| 13:41.21 | cladhaire | foxlit|mac: any progress on .blp > .tga? =/ |
| 13:41.32 | foxlit|mac | .blp -> .tga works |
| 13:41.39 | foxlit|mac | .blp -> .png works |
| 13:41.49 | foxlit|mac | It's the other direction that sucks a bit |
| 13:41.50 | cladhaire | err i meant .tga > .blp |
| 13:41.51 | cladhaire | yeah |
| 13:41.55 | cladhaire | that's where you _win_ |
| 13:41.58 | cladhaire | 100% :P |
| 13:42.08 | foxlit|mac | It's problematic, though |
| 13:42.21 | foxlit|mac | You get to pick two root colors and two derived colors for 16 pixels |
| 13:42.36 | cladhaire | i like blue :P |
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| 13:43.36 | krka_ | hm, doesn't there already exist converters for both ways? |
| 13:43.41 | foxlit|mac | It gets bad if you have a lot of colors in the same 16x16 block |
| 13:43.45 | cladhaire | not cross platform open source |
| 13:44.13 | cladhaire | foxlit|mac: that sucks =/ |
| 13:44.15 | foxlit|mac | But is there any actual reason to convert back to blp? |
| 13:44.19 | foxlit|mac | er |
| 13:44.22 | foxlit|mac | 4x4 block |
| 13:44.26 | foxlit|mac | 16x16 would be dramatic |
| 13:44.26 | krka_ | well, does there exist a complete spec? |
| 13:44.39 | cladhaire | foxlit|mac: filesize is the main reason |
| 13:44.46 | cladhaire | but other than that.. no i suppose not |
| 13:45.25 | foxlit|mac | Much depends on the textures |
| 13:45.40 | cladhaire | i can imagine |
| 13:45.42 | cladhaire | but .blp > |
| 13:45.48 | cladhaire | blp > tga in pure lua is quite useful |
| 13:45.48 | cladhaire | NOW |
| 13:45.55 | cladhaire | what someone needs to do |
| 13:46.26 | cladhaire | is write an xml parsing/rendering script that will create an image of any in-game frame, but the Xml definitions + textures |
| 13:46.29 | cladhaire | someone get to work! |
| 13:46.55 | foxlit|mac | Does that gui ui designer do that? |
| 13:46.55 | nevcairiel | that shouldnt be too hard |
| 13:47.04 | nevcairiel | good that i suck at gfx programming |
| 13:47.09 | cladhaire | nevcairiel: you say that :P |
| 13:47.32 | nevcairiel | well, there are a lot of cases one would have to handle |
| 13:47.40 | nevcairiel | but other then that, just boring work .. imho |
| 13:47.45 | Josh_Borke | i know Antiarc started writing one |
| 13:47.56 | Josh_Borke | a web based application that parsed an XML file and generated the frame |
| 13:48.02 | foxlit|mac | http://wowuides.wowinterface.com/ss/Battlefield.jpg |
| 13:48.10 | foxlit|mac | Isn't that it, more or less? |
| 13:48.18 | nevcairiel | yea |
| 13:48.19 | cladhaire | yeah, but useless to me, being windows only |
| 13:48.29 | nevcairiel | heh |
| 13:48.39 | nevcairiel | so best would be, a web based solution, eh ? :p |
| 13:48.42 | foxlit|mac | mono |
| 13:49.03 | cladhaire | foxlit|mac: i've yet to get any .net 2.0 app running on my machine, but perhaps i'm not trying hard enough |
| 13:49.17 | foxlit|mac | I haven't tried either |
| 13:51.11 | cladhaire | its an .msi |
| 13:51.14 | cladhaire | which means poop on my face |
| 13:51.23 | cladhaire | luckily i could make it work with vmware |
| 13:51.27 | cladhaire | but a web app would be for the win |
| 13:51.37 | foxlit|mac | Why not just stuff it into wow? |
| 13:52.03 | cladhaire | the whole point is to make it so i can do things without needing wow open |
| 13:52.14 | foxlit|mac | Limited things, though |
| 13:52.33 | cladhaire | yes.. |
| 13:52.38 | foxlit|mac | If you parsed my XML, you'd probably end up with some very weird images, since some of it is initialized through lua |
| 13:52.49 | cladhaire | but you could get the frameXML |
| 13:52.52 | cladhaire | more or less |
| 13:52.55 | cladhaire | which is quite useful. |
| 13:55.57 | nevcairiel | gimme a .blp reader for php :o |
| 13:56.41 | foxlit|mac | I think you can do that by taking my code |
| 13:56.53 | foxlit|mac | And doing a few search + replaces for the Lua->PHP syntax |
| 13:57.16 | foxlit|mac | And with image* functions for PHP |
| 13:57.30 | foxlit|mac | You could output to virtually anything, easily |
| 13:57.57 | foxlit|mac | Actually, I can probably arrange that :) |
| 14:00.58 | krka_ | you think you can convert lua to php with a few regexps? :) |
| 14:01.47 | MoonWolf | i doubt it would be taht easy |
| 14:02.08 | foxlit|mac | krka_: in this case, yes |
| 14:02.14 | Codayus | For sufficiently simple lua and sufficiently complex regexps...perhaps. |
| 14:02.32 | foxlit|mac | I'd go more towards parsing Lua syntax and converting to PHP syntax, though |
| 14:02.45 | Codayus | Designing a converter for the general case would be quite impressive though. |
| 14:02.52 | foxlit|mac | since it's realatively hard to distinguish lua variable names from other junk |
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| 14:04.43 | foxlit|mac | TextMate's syntax autocomplete is mapped to escape |
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| 14:31.01 | Industrial | Cidan: pong |
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| 14:44.28 | Shirik|zZz | haha <3 FedEx |
| 14:45.13 | Shirik | Had an important package today that I was expecting, but she says "But it says here it requires an adult signature..." "Well, I'm 20" "You have to be 21..., you're 21 right?" "Eh, I'm 20..." "No, you're 21, right?" |
| 14:45.19 | Shirik | so she lets me sign for it >< |
| 14:45.33 | Cairenn|afk | heh |
| 14:45.43 | Lopeppeppy | When has 20 not been "adult"? Ugh. No wonder she dodges her regulations. |
| 14:45.44 | Shirik | amusingly it was my birth certificate that was inside |
| 14:45.53 | Lopeppeppy | That's too funny, Shirik. |
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| 14:55.17 | Mr_Rabies2 | i mean it's not like the fed's going to break down your door and go elian gonzalez on your ass |
| 14:56.16 | Valaron|Work | Who? |
| 14:56.29 | Mr_Rabies2 | hell, i haven't been carded more than 10 times since i've been about 15 for any movie, and i usually see at least 1 a week in theaters :x |
| 14:56.38 | Mr_Rabies2 | yet my buddy who is 1 day older than me always gets carded |
| 14:56.50 | Mr_Rabies2 | i laugh at his inferior facial hair skills |
| 14:57.05 | Cairenn | lol |
| 14:58.01 | krka_ | i want to get carded more often :/ |
| 14:58.25 | Mr_Rabies2 | Valaron|Work: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eli%C3%A1n_Gonz%C3%A1lez_affair |
| 14:58.35 | krka_ | apparently i no longer look younger than 18 |
| 14:58.40 | Valaron|Work | No. I know who Elian Gonzales was. |
| 14:58.43 | Mr_Rabies2 | the only time i'm happy for being carded is when i use my credit card |
| 15:02.51 | Maldivia | krka: I've never been younger than 18 then :| |
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| 15:07.08 | Shirik | does noexists imply noharm? |
| 15:07.16 | Shirik | I knew there was something that was redundant in this macro..... |
| 15:07.29 | krka_ | it would imply a lot of no-stuff i think |
| 15:07.45 | Josh_Borke | ~lart shirik |
| 15:07.45 | purl | turns shirik into a lifesized tux doll |
| 15:07.56 | Shirik | was just saying, there's three cases: harm, help, and exists |
| 15:08.07 | Shirik | if you have two cases you should always be able to bring it down to 1 |
| 15:08.16 | Shirik | /focus [target=focus,noexists] [target=focus,dead] [target=focus,noharm] [modifier:shift] target |
| 15:08.24 | Shirik | so I knew there was something to get rid of there |
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| 15:21.56 | ts|skrom | What's the min level before "find an upgrade" on the armory will work? |
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| 15:22.34 | Lopeppeppy | Good question, TS|Skrom. I can go look up some of my baby alts if you'd like.... |
| 15:22.44 | ts|skrom | It's not working for my level 51 |
| 15:22.51 | ts|skrom | which is why i asked :-/ |
| 15:22.59 | Lopeppeppy | That's strange. Let me go check my 47. |
| 15:23.42 | ts|skrom | it must not be toon level, it must be item dependent |
| 15:23.51 | ts|skrom | it works for skrom (60) on his helm, but not his bracer |
| 15:24.35 | ts|skrom | but not his bow... what the heck |
| 15:24.48 | ts|skrom | how screwy |
| 15:24.59 | Lopeppeppy | I dunno... She's 49 and I'm not getting anything on her checks. Let me try my 56.... |
| 15:25.33 | Kaydeethree | oh wow... what horrible news. robert jordan died yesterday |
| 15:25.48 | Lopeppeppy | Oh, no! |
| 15:25.58 | ts|skrom | wasn't that to be expected? I mean he announced he was sick about 2 years ago |
| 15:26.06 | ts|skrom | I'm not saying it's bad fyi |
| 15:26.13 | ts|skrom | er not bad |
| 15:26.14 | ts|skrom | jeez |
| 15:26.24 | Lopeppeppy | TS|Skrom -- my 56 seems to have things for each slot. I think that the list is based on submitted suggestions, so maybe no one has done anything forking off the piece of equipment you were looking up? |
| 15:26.30 | Cairenn | guess we'll never see the end of the series |
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| 15:26.58 | Lopeppeppy | Were we going to see the end before, Cairenn? *sad little laugh* It's still a loss to the sci fi world. |
| 15:27.24 | Cairenn | aye |
| 15:27.56 | Industrial | Does anyone know a bagmod wich displays items in a list? |
| 15:28.08 | Lopeppeppy | I look at all the new books coming out from VC Andrews though, and I don't despair.... perhaps he left outlines that his estate will hire a solid writer to develop. |
| 15:28.16 | Industrial | maybe even a tree :D? (categories yay) |
| 15:28.36 | Cairenn | hopefully |
| 15:29.17 | Tierrie | boo |
| 15:29.25 | Cairenn | hi Tierrie |
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| 15:30.27 | Tierrie | heya redhead! |
| 15:30.41 | Lopeppeppy | Heya, Tierrie! |
| 15:31.10 | Tierrie | gmorning! |
| 15:32.10 | Lopeppeppy | Redheads on a Monday morning, what could be better? |
| 15:32.23 | Valaron|Work | Couldn't have said it better myself. |
| 15:32.32 | Tierrie | preppy! :D |
| 15:36.30 | Valaron|Work | So.... |
| 15:36.41 | Cairenn | a needle pulling thread |
| 15:36.41 | |Jelly| | ....so |
| 15:36.58 | Valaron|Work | So.. how about that O.J. |
| 15:37.07 | |Jelly| | Makes me lol |
| 15:37.08 | Lopeppeppy | Oh dear. Just... "oh dear". |
| 15:37.24 | Lopeppeppy | How many years in a row can one win a Darwin Award and still survive? |
| 15:37.34 | Tierrie | 0 |
| 15:37.43 | cog|work | Lopeppeppy: depends on how intact their reproductive organs are |
| 15:38.08 | |Jelly| | Well. I was in...fifth grade when he was on trial for whacking his wife. I've been graduated for five years. Hmmm. |
| 15:38.21 | Valaron|Work | He's gonna vow to find the real burglars, I'm guessing. |
| 15:38.26 | Tierrie | lol |
| 15:38.38 | Lopeppeppy | I suppose I shall be more clear... how can one be so consistently stupid and not die from it. Stupid should hurt, frequently and badly. |
| 15:38.38 | Tierrie | maybe he will have a glove issue here too |
| 15:39.26 | |Jelly| | Anything to sway the news away from Chris Crocker imo. |
| 15:39.35 | Tierrie | HEY! |
| 15:39.43 | Tierrie | You mess with Chris Crocker, you mess with me! |
| 15:40.00 | |Jelly| | Then I guess I'm laughing at him, you AND Seth Green? |
| 15:40.09 | Tierrie | :( |
| 15:40.12 | Tierrie | lol |
| 15:40.25 | Valaron|Work | Who is Chris Crocker? |
| 15:40.43 | Tierrie | a guy so gay he set his mom's vagina on fire when he was born |
| 15:40.48 | |Jelly| | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V16wZ-HOiCs |
| 15:41.26 | cog|work | Looks like we got Exødus banned from the forums for his model changing post >< |
| 15:41.40 | cog|work | seems all his posts were wiped |
| 15:41.48 | |Jelly| | Wait. What? |
| 15:41.48 | Tierrie | what model changing post? |
| 15:41.58 | Tierrie | a mod to change the in game models? |
| 15:42.14 | cog|work | someone asked how to change a character model |
| 15:42.20 | cog|work | we told them it wasn't allowed |
| 15:42.32 | cog|work | someone posted a link to a place that shows you how <----- idiot |
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| 15:42.57 | |Jelly| | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=1602495251&sid=1 <-- tired of answering this eight times a day....even though I didn't, you know, respond here. |
| 15:43.05 | Lopeppeppy | I saw that a whole bunch of posts were deleted from that thread, Cogwheel |
| 15:43.06 | |Jelly| | And wow... |
| 15:43.50 | cog|work | Lopeppeppy: i think you might be thinking of the translator thread :P |
| 15:44.07 | |Jelly| | Did they delete the post leading to that Wiki? |
| 15:44.08 | cncfanatics | good afternoon everyone |
| 15:44.13 | |Jelly| | hai |
| 15:44.17 | cog|work | |Jelly|: yes |
| 15:44.21 | Lopeppeppy | Well then, link the right one so that we're on the same page, Cog! :) |
| 15:44.30 | cog|work | Lopeppeppy: it was deleted :P |
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| 15:44.55 | |Jelly| | Gah. Why do I play this game? I miss so much forum fun while grinding! |
| 15:45.09 | cncfanatics | any australians here ? |
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| 15:45.16 | Valaron|Work | I haven't logged into WoW in over a week. |
| 15:45.24 | Lopeppeppy | Oh, well then it's gone forever and we'll never know. But I dont' think it was the translator one I'm thinking of.... Meh, doesn't matter. |
| 15:45.49 | |Jelly| | You're not gonna ask ASK next are you, cncfanatics? |
| 15:45.58 | |Jelly| | s/ASK/ASL/ |
| 15:46.18 | |Jelly| | Look Shirik! I'm getting better! |
| 15:46.21 | cncfanatics | just need some info about the outback in australia :) got to make some stupid english work about that |
| 15:46.59 | Tierrie | Lopeppeppy: ASL! |
| 15:47.35 | Tierrie | I wanted to ask that since he/she said she was a redhead |
| 15:47.41 | Lopeppeppy | I don't know an ASL, Tierrie, but I'm happy to bake one if you give me a recipe? |
| 15:47.55 | |Jelly| | WTB cookies. |
| 15:47.56 | cog|work | Lopeppeppy: if by your bonk you meant to suggest a post of mine was deleted, then yes, it was the translator thread ;) |
| 15:48.42 | Lopeppeppy | Cog: The bonk was just generally for posting a link to things to teach them how to break the ToS. |
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| 15:49.58 | cog|work | Why did *I* get bonked though? :( |
| 15:50.54 | Lopeppeppy | You soooo implied that you had posted the link to the how-to. Maybe I read it wrong. *scrolls upward to re-read* |
| 15:51.04 | zenzelezz | Lopeppeppy: for what it's worth, ASL (usually "A/S/L????") is age, sex, location |
| 15:51.29 | cog|work | Oh.. the <------ idiot was pointing at the "someone posted ...." |
| 15:51.37 | cog|work | :P |
| 15:52.25 | Lopeppeppy | Ooooh... I think I forgot to turn on my context filter today, Cogwheel, I take it back! |
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| 15:52.43 | Lopeppeppy | zenzelezz, thanks for the edu-m-cation. I'm such a little innocent about the weirdest things. |
| 15:53.09 | Valaron|Work | omg asl lol |
| 15:53.40 | cog|work | to which a common reply would be M/Y/my place |
| 15:54.17 | Lopeppeppy | I wonder how I can work the cookies into that better? |
| 15:54.50 | Cairenn | "Old enough to know better, young enough to go ahead anyway. yes please. anywhere and everywhere" |
| 15:55.08 | Tierrie | :D |
| 15:55.36 | |Jelly| | Now THIS conversation is going places! |
| 15:56.17 | Tierrie | Cairenn taught me some pickup lines |
| 15:56.26 | Cairenn | rofl |
| 15:56.27 | Tierrie | "I wish there was a polar bear in this room" |
| 15:56.35 | Tierrie | I mean |
| 15:56.35 | Lopeppeppy | What's that Blood Elf line.... "Why yes. You bring a pound of butter and I'll bring the jumper cables." |
| 15:56.46 | Tierrie | Lopeppeppy: I wish there was a polar bear in this room |
| 15:56.59 | Lopeppeppy | Tierrie: There could be. *wink* |
| 15:57.05 | Tierrie | Cairenn: Its not working! |
| 15:57.14 | Cairenn | because you're saying it wrong |
| 15:57.17 | Tierrie | oh |
| 15:57.27 | Tierrie | "I wish you were a polar bear?" |
| 15:57.37 | Lopeppeppy | Um..... NMK. |
| 15:57.39 | Cairenn | "How much does a polar bear weigh?" |
| 15:57.43 | Tierrie | oh |
| 15:57.57 | Tierrie | Lopeppeppy: How much does a polar bear weigh? |
| 15:58.05 | Lopeppeppy | Tierrie: I don't know. |
| 15:58.11 | Tierrie | Just enough to break the ice! |
| 15:58.14 | Tierrie | Hi I am Tierrie! |
| 15:58.20 | Tierrie | lol |
| 15:58.24 | zenzelezz | I'm glad to see my guild's full of sad people like me... rating a female applicant based on her voice |
| 15:58.25 | Tierrie | ^5 Cairenn |
| 15:58.29 | zenzelezz | (oh, and a little bit of skill) |
| 15:58.29 | Lopeppeppy | See? It works when you get the words right! |
| 15:58.43 | Tierrie | women go far in WoW |
| 15:59.03 | Lopeppeppy | zenzelezz, there are even sadder ratings, but that one is kinda typical of the male-dominated game world. Makes me a sad polar bear. |
| 15:59.16 | |Jelly| | People hitting on my Peppy...right infront of me! /cry |
| 15:59.24 | Tierrie | lol |
| 15:59.28 | cog|work | or some other more correctly-spelled word |
| 15:59.33 | zenzelezz | you must be blind if you haven't seen it before now Jelly, I've been doing it for weeks |
| 16:00.04 | |Jelly| | Yeah. I try not to keep up with it. Such things make me cut! AND CUT I MUST! |
| 16:00.09 | |Jelly| | so brb, I need a sammich |
| 16:00.30 | Lopeppeppy | Come back in one piece, Jelly-dear! |
| 16:02.22 | Tierrie | He's spreading himself over some toast? |
| 16:02.39 | Tierrie | pa dum pah |
| 16:03.09 | |Jelly| | Oh man Terrie |
| 16:03.13 | |Jelly| | Oh...man... |
| 16:03.25 | |Jelly| | I can't think of a witty enough retort. |
| 16:03.50 | Tierrie | its like | were pieces of bread |
| 16:03.57 | Tierrie | and you're like |Jelly| |
| 16:04.14 | |Jelly| | The only way that would work is if Peppy was the bread and there was only one slice. :P |
| 16:04.38 | |Jelly| | And WTB name change in game. :\ |
| 16:04.40 | Tierrie | PeppyJellyWALL |
| 16:05.31 | |Jelly| | By the way, I need a name for my cat. |
| 16:05.39 | |Jelly| | ...who also hit best friend earlier! :) |
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| 16:06.13 | Tierrie | name for a cat ? :D |
| 16:06.18 | zenzelezz | name it after one of your main tanks |
| 16:06.19 | Tierrie | Percival |
| 16:06.24 | zenzelezz | makes for awesome fun in raids |
| 16:06.37 | |Jelly| | I'm level 24. I don't have a main tank. |
| 16:06.39 | zenzelezz | "Trashgirl has died." "WTF!?!? Oh that f'in pet" |
| 16:06.43 | Tierrie | "Stop rubbing on my crotch Tank!" |
| 16:07.17 | zenzelezz | I always end up in guild with peculiarly named tanks |
| 16:07.32 | zenzelezz | Trashgirl, Djrko, Crazyannus |
| 16:07.36 | |Jelly| | !c us burning legion diablot |
| 16:07.38 | ThraeBot | |Jelly|: Diablot, Level 70 Undead Warrior (13/5/43). 14004 HP; 16639 Armour; 770 AP; 140.000 Melee DPS; 12.62% melee crit; 32 melee hit; 380 defense; 24.75% dodge; 25.06% block; 10 shadow resist (+10);[[ TBR: 1715 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/2296cv ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/32svr3 ][ Updated: Mon Sep 17 12:20:59 2007 EST ]] |
| 16:07.45 | |Jelly| | Jelly's main tank. |
| 16:08.06 | Tierrie | hey did you guys know robert jordan dieded |
| 16:08.10 | Tierrie | RIP :( |
| 16:08.13 | Mr_Rabies2 | it's fun to name pets after bosses or main tanks |
| 16:08.25 | Cairenn | that's what we were talking about just before you logged in Tierrie |
| 16:08.33 | Mr_Rabies2 | i knew a warrior named magmadar |
| 16:08.41 | Mr_Rabies2 | i imagine the tranq shot pulls were hell with him tanking |
| 16:08.46 | Mr_Rabies2 | er, rotations |
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| 16:08.51 | Tierrie | Cairenn: oh yeah? well that was what i was talking about last night! |
| 16:08.54 | Tierrie | so there |
| 16:08.58 | Tierrie | sexy thang you |
| 16:09.36 | |Jelly| | Is there a numerical value for pet happiness that I just don't see somewhere? |
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| 16:10.28 | Tierrie | there's a PetHappiness API |
| 16:10.40 | Tierrie | Its been a while since i looked at it, but check its return value |
| 16:10.43 | Valaron|Work | http://www.wowwiki.com/API_GetPetHappiness |
| 16:12.03 | zenzelezz | |Jelly|: I'm pretty sure there's a server-side exact value, yes |
| 16:12.26 | zenzelezz | based on the "gains ... happiness" messages and people saying Dismiss Pet causes a x point happiness loss |
| 16:12.37 | foxlit|mac | Hah, ouch. |
| 16:12.49 | foxlit|mac | PHP can't handle 8-bit alpha channels |
| 16:12.57 | |Jelly| | That's what I'm looking to find out, zenzelezz. |
| 16:13.11 | zenzelezz | |Jelly|: the exact value you mean? |
| 16:13.16 | Lopeppeppy | |Jelly|: Rawr. That's what I get for being the alt-tab-at-work queen, I miss all the fun ideas. |
| 16:13.17 | |Jelly| | Yes. |
| 16:13.31 | |Jelly| | Lopeppeppy: <3 |
| 16:13.48 | zenzelezz | I don't think you could do that completely accurately, but you could perhaps make an educated guess based on when you get the happiness change events |
| 16:14.14 | zenzelezz | you'd have to keep track of time since it was last fed, loyalty, deaths/dismissals, etc |
| 16:14.15 | |Jelly| | Educated Guess? Yeah...that excludes me. :P |
| 16:15.03 | Lopeppeppy | I've never made sense out of pet levels, when they get training points, what makes them happy.... I just feed my bear and cat until they're bursting and smiling, and make them kill things. They're quite bloodthirsty when they're well fed... |
| 16:15.37 | |Jelly| | I'm amazed that you didn't find a pet that would eat cookies. hehe |
| 16:16.17 | Lopeppeppy | If I could, I would Jelly. *laugh* They'll eat cinnamon buns sometimes, that's close! |
| 16:16.31 | |Jelly| | That *is* pretty close. |
| 16:17.07 | Mr_Rabies2 | Lopeppeppy, petopia worked out some stuff |
| 16:17.13 | Lopeppeppy | Until I train my mage friends to make me some brownies, it will have to do. *le sigh* |
| 16:17.22 | zenzelezz | my cat eats brown cheese... even though she shouldn't like it |
| 16:17.24 | Mr_Rabies2 | it's based on a combination of time and exp |
| 16:17.38 | Mr_Rabies2 | my dog ate a plastic bag once |
| 16:17.59 | Lopeppeppy | That's my favorite hunter site, Mr_Rabies2. Sadly though, I don't play my hunter very often, so I don't pay as much attention to her mechanics as I do to the ones for my rogue or pally. |
| 16:18.39 | Mr_Rabies2 | it's probably a good idea to teach children that the dog will eat pretty much their alphas give them |
| 16:18.45 | Mr_Rabies2 | er |
| 16:18.48 | Mr_Rabies2 | pretty much anything |
| 16:19.22 | Lopeppeppy | They surely will. |
| 16:19.34 | |Jelly| | Except pills. |
| 16:19.39 | |Jelly| | My dog wont eat a pill. |
| 16:19.55 | |Jelly| | ...until I put it in a banana! Then she just swallows it like it was nothing. |
| 16:20.10 | Lopeppeppy | If I put it on my dinner plate, my dog would eat whatever it was, no matter what it was. |
| 16:20.14 | Mr_Rabies2 | my dad used hot dogs dipped in beef broth |
| 16:20.21 | Mr_Rabies2 | for medicine :o |
| 16:20.24 | Lopeppeppy | Pills, food, radishes, raw carrots... |
| 16:20.30 | zenzelezz | trying to give my cat pills is quite an effort. Put it in cheese and she'll shake them before eating it, put it in normal food and she'll eat around it |
| 16:20.55 | |Jelly| | IMO all pet medicine should come in tasteless liquid. |
| 16:21.15 | |Jelly| | "Oh? You wont take a pill? Have some spiked water, stupid!" muahahaha |
| 16:21.21 | Mr_Rabies2 | beef flavor liquid, imo |
| 16:21.28 | Lopeppeppy | Cats are much, much more fussy about eating habits. Mine won't eat at her regular dishes if I'm watching, but won't eat her treats unless I'm right there telling her how wonderful she is the whole time. Psychotic little monsters, cats. |
| 16:21.55 | Kaydeethree | that's because you're feeding into it |
| 16:22.09 | Lopeppeppy | I know, Kaydeethree. I have to train myself as much as her. |
| 16:22.14 | |Jelly| | Either eat or starve. That's how I feel about it. |
| 16:22.14 | Mr_Rabies2 | dogs will pretty much eat whatever the alpha gives them because in a pack generally the alphas approve of the food and eat first |
| 16:22.15 | Mr_Rabies2 | :x |
| 16:23.02 | Lopeppeppy | We got into bad habits when she first came home and was so confused that she wouldn't do anything without me nearby. We're still working on our manners from both sides. |
| 16:23.02 | Tierrie | my pets are tamagochi and whether they eat or not is determined by a random number |
| 16:23.03 | zenzelezz | the easiest way to get my cat to eat food containing pills has turned out to be... by distracting her with the promise of more food |
| 16:23.06 | |Jelly| | Curse you, Cogwheel! |
| 16:24.38 | Valaron|Work | http://www.bash.org/?12081 |
| 16:25.42 | |Jelly| | lol |
| 16:26.39 | cog|work | |Jelly|: which curse? |
| 16:26.52 | cog|work | or... |
| 16:27.10 | cog|work | |Jelly|: /cast Spell Reflection |
| 16:27.34 | |Jelly| | cog|work: /cast You Win The Nerd Contest(Rank 8) |
| 16:27.54 | Mr_Rabies2 | /cast [target=cogwheel] Remove Curse |
| 16:28.00 | cog|work | I love how 8 ) shows up as an emoticon with sunglasses in chatzilla :P |
| 16:28.12 | cog|work | You win the nerd contest rank :cool: :P |
| 16:28.13 | |Jelly| | I love how...HUSH! |
| 16:29.21 | Mr_Rabies2 | Rank sunglasses |
| 16:29.24 | Mr_Rabies2 | and for some reason |
| 16:29.33 | Mr_Rabies2 | i kept wanting to spell it sungblastes |
| 16:29.38 | Mr_Rabies2 | i need to sleep |
| 16:31.24 | cog|work | http://www.bash.org/?803904 |
| 16:31.31 | zenzelezz | "Rogue with Twin Blades of Azzinoth sells account for almost $10,000" |
| 16:31.45 | |Jelly| | ? |
| 16:32.25 | zenzelezz | http://www.wowinsider.com/2007/09/16/rogue-with-twin-blades-of-azzinoth-sells-account-for-almost-10/ |
| 16:32.25 | mikma | almost 7000$ |
| 16:32.29 | zenzelezz | Euros, not dollars |
| 16:33.31 | |Jelly| | So...how long until that $10k account is banned for being sold? lol |
| 16:33.40 | Kaydeethree | I give it a few days |
| 16:34.15 | Lopeppeppy | The article hints that it may have happened already. |
| 16:34.25 | |Jelly| | !c eu sylvanas zeuzo |
| 16:34.26 | ThraeBot | |Jelly|: zeuzo is not the character you are looking for! |
| 16:34.31 | Cairenn | fyi, 2.2 is _probably_ next week |
| 16:34.31 | |Jelly| | hmm |
| 16:34.36 | zenzelezz | it said he transferred |
| 16:34.45 | zenzelezz | !c eu kazzak shaks |
| 16:34.47 | ThraeBot | zenzelezz: Shaks, Level 70 Night Elf Rogue (27/3/31). 11324 HP; +10 Energy; 3586 Armour; 1771 AP; 368.500 Melee DPS; 28.39% melee crit; 90 melee hit; 27.21% dodge; 318 resilience; 10 nature resist (+10);[[ TBR: 1042 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/ywbpcd ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/38qajs ][ Updated: Mon Sep 17 12:48:08 2007 EST ]] |
| 16:34.51 | |Jelly| | touché |
| 16:35.00 | Kaydeethree | as long as there aren't any gamebreakers like the vista crash |
| 16:35.13 | Kaydeethree | and I'm still looking for stuff to put in the "zomg it's 2.2 patchday!" sticky |
| 16:35.15 | |Jelly| | !vs us drenden kimina eu kazzak shaks |
| 16:35.18 | ThraeBot | |Jelly|: Kimina vs Shaks! A L70 priest and a L70 rogue square off!; 23/38/0 vs 27/3/31; Shaks wins by 415 TBRs! |
| 16:35.26 | Saint-N | the vista crash isnt a game breaker |
| 16:35.34 | Saint-N | its electronic selection ;) |
| 16:35.40 | Saint-N | thinningthe herds of the retards |
| 16:36.09 | Lopeppeppy | Kaydeethree: Does the 2.2 sticky include anything about the voice chat stuff, API calls for it, etc? |
| 16:36.32 | Kaydeethree | take a look. it's only for end-user stuff and not stuff of the dev side of changes |
| 16:36.47 | Kaydeethree | though I should mention voip somehow |
| 16:36.59 | mikma | i would be pissed to have lost 7000e and not being able to play |
| 16:37.25 | Lopeppeppy | Serves them right though... |
| 16:37.41 | |Jelly| | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:38.04 | mikma | i thought blizz has stated that if you plan on selling your account, you need to provide the new owner everything that came with the game. cd's, key, box, manual... |
| 16:38.16 | Kaydeethree | you can't sell accounts period |
| 16:38.43 | mikma | ok let me rephrase: if you are planning on selling your game, you need to provide the account with it |
| 16:39.06 | Lopeppeppy | Nope. You can sell your install disks, but not your account. Those are non-transferrable. |
| 16:39.09 | |Jelly| | "I'm selling the time it took to level this character from 1-70 and get gear, etc" <-- lewl |
| 16:39.24 | zenzelezz | that's what they say on all MMO character sales |
| 16:39.58 | mikma | Lopeppeppy: can you provide me a link where blizz says that? if you know that there is one tho.. |
| 16:40.01 | zenzelezz | I remember when I played Anarchy Online, I'd spend every Saturday at work trying to match the characters on ebay up against the character list on a certain websites, see if I could find the name |
| 16:40.41 | Lopeppeppy | Yeah-yeah.... it's interesting to watch people stance-dance around legal technicalities.. When you have to do that, you know you're stretching it. And no, Mikma, I don't have a link. You said your understanding, I said mine. *shrug* |
| 16:41.16 | mikma | Lopeppeppy: well the thing is i want it because i've seen this discussion happening before and i want someone to proof his point :O |
| 16:42.05 | Lopeppeppy | Why are we all talking about the account being banned for being sold, if it's not common knowledge? |
| 16:42.09 | Cairenn | Kaydeethree: the usual suspects - "Here's what you need to do to update, these are the things you shouldn't do, chill out and give authors time to get their stuff updated, watch this thread to see if the mods you want are updated yet" |
| 16:42.34 | mikma | well because the new char has been updated |
| 16:43.34 | Lopeppeppy | Mikma, here's the link. First bullet point under Limitations. http://www.blizzard.com/support/wowgm/?id=agm01889p |
| 16:43.48 | Lopeppeppy | Blizzard Entertainment does not recognize the transfer of Accounts between individuals. (Section 1E of the ToU) |
| 16:43.59 | Lopeppeppy | That was with a very cursory search on their website. It's common knowledge. |
| 16:45.37 | mikma | is it transfer if someone buys your game :I |
| 16:46.24 | zenzelezz | E. Blizzard Entertainment does not recognize the transfer of Accounts, and any unauthorized transfer of the World of Warcraft software will result in the permanent deletion of the Account attached to that software. You may not offer any Account for sale or trade, and any such offer. |
| 16:46.34 | zenzelezz | from Data/enGB/tos.html |
| 16:46.56 | mikma | well there we go. |
| 16:47.07 | Lopeppeppy | Thank you, zenzelezz. |
| 16:47.09 | mikma | finally a clear statemant |
| 16:47.11 | mikma | ment* |
| 16:47.35 | |Jelly| | Any documentation (links) on the reduction of xp required for 1-60? |
| 16:48.23 | Lopeppeppy | I haven't seen anything solid yet myself, and I'm totally curious. I have 3 characters dying in the stagnation of 35-55.... |
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| 16:57.21 | Buuyo | Is there a macro command that runs like castsequence that can be used for consuming items? i.e., /usesequence reset=10 Conjured Water, Conjured Bread? =o |
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| 17:09.50 | Lopeppeppy | Coming into my work server from outside the firewall is an exercise in patience and futility.... |
| 17:10.13 | cog|work | So apparently the newest tourist attraction in minnesota is the bathroom in the airport... |
| 17:10.22 | Kaydeethree | lmao |
| 17:10.30 | Lopeppeppy | *laugh* So very typical of the American Public. |
| 17:10.32 | Cairenn | o.O |
| 17:11.59 | cog|work | people are taking pictures of the stall and everything... |
| 17:12.18 | Cairenn | ? |
| 17:12.20 | Lopeppeppy | I'm sure that's right up there with owning a baby picture of a serial killer. |
| 17:12.36 | Lopeppeppy | "This is the stall where someone might have done something vaguely naughty!" |
| 17:12.52 | Lopeppeppy | I wonder if I can sell tickets, they can come photograph my bathroom. |
| 17:13.30 | Lopeppeppy | Senator Craig, Cairenn. http://news.search.yahoo.com/search/news?ei=UTF-8&p=senator+craig&y=Search |
| 17:14.11 | Cairenn | rofl! |
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| 17:18.01 | Shirik | WTF |
| 17:18.06 | Shirik | What is wrong with my relatives |
| 17:18.12 | Cide | they're related to you |
| 17:18.15 | Shirik | So I log into my email account, check this out |
| 17:18.24 | Shirik | I have 5 different relatives: my dad, various aunts and grandparents |
| 17:18.27 | Shirik | They all sent me to the same article |
| 17:18.33 | Shirik | "Man dies after 3-day gaming binge - CNN.com " |
| 17:18.38 | Kaydeethree | ahahaha |
| 17:18.42 | cog|work | hahaha! |
| 17:19.01 | Lopeppeppy | Think they're concerned for you, Shirik? |
| 17:19.01 | cog|work | They're conspiring against you |
| 17:19.11 | cog|work | (c wut i did thur?) |
| 17:19.15 | Kaydeethree | k, what else? http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=104567058&sid=1 |
| 17:20.37 | Cairenn | looks pretty good to me Kaydeethree |
| 17:20.42 | Shirik | Well, I have something else to add |
| 17:20.52 | Shirik | but it's going to be irrelevant at the time anyone reads it |
| 17:20.59 | Cairenn | I'll have my usual thread of what mods are updated where, when the time comes |
| 17:21.06 | Shirik | It would have been a comment to update early, instead of update when the patch comes out |
| 17:21.11 | Shirik | Because servers are going to be flooded |
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| 17:21.59 | foxlit|mac | Not 18th? |
| 17:22.00 | Kaydeethree | cairenn, will the link I have for wowi automatically point to the low-bandwidth version of the site when you/dolby switch it over? |
| 17:22.00 | Mr_Rabies2 | i hope 2.2 hits tomorrow |
| 17:22.06 | Mr_Rabies2 | but i expect a week or two at least :[ |
| 17:22.09 | cog|work | it won't |
| 17:22.22 | Shirik | Kaydeethree: iirc yes |
| 17:22.24 | cog|work | they just pushed a PTR patch last thursday |
| 17:22.25 | Cairenn | Kaydeethree: should, I'll let you know if it changes |
| 17:22.36 | Shirik | last time I asked about why I can't switch to normal version |
| 17:22.41 | Shirik | and Cairenn was all like "you noob" |
| 17:22.47 | Lopeppeppy | That does remind me to zoop back over to the PTR to test my addons again, some have been updated since last I visited it. |
| 17:23.03 | Cairenn | Mr_Rabies2: already confirmed not tomorrow, will _likely_ be next week |
| 17:23.12 | Shirik | hmm... no sound |
| 17:23.12 | Mr_Rabies2 | ah |
| 17:23.13 | Shirik | =( |
| 17:23.20 | Mr_Rabies2 | havent seen the confirmation |
| 17:23.35 | Kaydeethree | zomg sekrit blizz contacts yo |
| 17:23.38 | cog|work | Mr_Rabies2: confirmation is that there's no "extended maintenance" warning on the login screen imo :P |
| 17:23.40 | Cairenn | because it came through me, not posted anywhere :p |
| 17:24.07 | cog|work | that and they've never gone live with a patch this soon after a PTR update |
| 17:24.08 | Mr_Rabies2 | cog|work, sometimes they don't announce that till just before or even after realms go down :O |
| 17:24.19 | cog|work | Mr_Rabies2: neva! |
| 17:24.33 | cog|work | (srsly... they've always announced extended maintenance the day before) |
| 17:24.33 | Kaydeethree | there's another PTR build on the way, they're not going to push it live that quickly |
| 17:25.22 | cog|work | Notice that announcing extended maintenance ~= announcing the patch |
| 17:26.50 | [dRaCo] | I wish people would stop using ~= for !=, confuses me. |
| 17:27.23 | Cide | ~= ~= != |
| 17:27.31 | Cide | or is it?! |
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| 17:27.52 | Thunder_Child | i thought ~= was "roughly equal to" |
| 17:28.07 | Shirik | not in Lua |
| 17:28.10 | cog|work | >>> print(true ~= false) |
| 17:28.11 | Cide | cog|work: true |
| 17:28.24 | Cide | 6848394 is roughly equal to 6848393 |
| 17:28.25 | [dRaCo] | So did I, but in Lua ~= is what != is in C |
| 17:28.38 | cryogen | there is no ~= in C |
| 17:28.40 | Shirik | also, how do you define "roughly equal to" |
| 17:28.45 | cryogen | or well, its not the maths version of it |
| 17:28.46 | [dRaCo] | yeah, cryogen |
| 17:28.49 | Shirik | cryogen: And that's why he said it's != |
| 17:28.50 | Shirik | in C |
| 17:28.51 | cryogen | purl complicates things further |
| 17:28.54 | cryogen | perl* |
| 17:29.06 | Cide | purl, stop complicating things |
| 17:29.07 | purl | ACTION leaps to his feet and stops complicating things |
| 17:29.12 | Cide | good job |
| 17:29.20 | Thunder_Child | Shirik, + or - x |
| 17:29.31 | cryogen | purl: botsnank |
| 17:29.32 | Shirik | there's an easy solution to that |
| 17:29.38 | [dRaCo] | being? |
| 17:29.41 | cryogen | ~botsnack |
| 17:29.41 | purl | cryogen: aw, gee |
| 17:29.42 | Shirik | It's the same way you test equivalence of floating point numbers |
| 17:29.53 | Shirik | Since you CANNOT test them directly |
| 17:30.08 | cryogen | typing one handed while eating is not a winner |
| 17:30.13 | Shirik | abs(i - j) < x |
| 17:30.23 | Shirik | s/x/d/ |
| 17:31.04 | Shirik | lua> 2/3 + 2/3 == 4/3 |
| 17:31.05 | cladbot | Shirik: true |
| 17:31.11 | Shirik | hrm, Lua is better at this than most languages |
| 17:31.18 | Shirik | I've always struggled to find a good example of it |
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| 17:31.34 | Cide | >>> 1/0 + 1/0 == 1/0 |
| 17:31.34 | Cide | Cide: true |
| 17:31.41 | Cide | but.. it's 2/0! |
| 17:31.47 | Shirik | lua> 2/3 + 2/3 - 1/3 == 1 |
| 17:31.47 | cladbot | Shirik: true |
| 17:31.48 | [dRaCo] | division by zero! |
| 17:31.49 | Shirik | bleh |
| 17:31.56 | Shirik | Cide: That is mathematically correct :P |
| 17:32.00 | Shirik | well |
| 17:32.01 | Shirik | sorta |
| 17:32.08 | Cide | Shirik: haha, I was just kidding |
| 17:32.17 | Shirik | infinity is not actually equal to infinity |
| 17:32.19 | Shirik | even though it is |
| 17:32.27 | Shirik | just like infinity minus infinity is not zero |
| 17:33.31 | Lopeppeppy | I love foolish consistency. "Just tell me how to do it, I swear I'm not up to no good!" |
| 17:33.33 | Lopeppeppy | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=1602235414&postId=16021527967&sid=1 |
| 17:33.38 | cryogen | maths at that level is just voodoo and scary |
| 17:34.21 | krka_ | Shirik: i disagree, i think \inf == \inf |
| 17:34.30 | Shirik | Yell at the math people :P |
| 17:34.33 | Shirik | I didn't invent this stuff |
| 17:34.41 | cryogen | infinity is undefined |
| 17:34.48 | krka_ | hm... is there any page with the rules for inf-math+ |
| 17:34.49 | cryogen | two undefined valus cant "really" be equal |
| 17:35.02 | cryogen | see: voodoo scary stuff |
| 17:35.10 | krka_ | infinity is defined |
| 17:35.49 | Shirik | krka_: The argument I've always been told is that "Equivalence is defined as the case where the two values subtracted from each other produces zero. As infinity minus infinity is not zero, they cannot be equal" |
| 17:35.52 | krka_ | inf + inf = inf, inf - inf = undefined, inf + x = inf, for all real x |
| 17:36.01 | Thunder_Child | krka_, you could try http://www-groups.dcs.st-and.ac.uk/~history/HistTopics/Infinity.html but i dont know if it has anything |
| 17:36.50 | Thunder_Child | or browse http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Infinity |
| 17:37.14 | Cide | >>> local f = 0; for i=1,1e6, 1 do f = f + 1/10 end return f |
| 17:37.15 | Cide | Cide: 100000.00000133 |
| 17:40.03 | krka_ | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Extended_real_number_line |
| 17:40.06 | krka_ | this tends to agree with me |
| 17:40.36 | krka_ | see arithmetic operations |
| 17:40.57 | cryogen | well i didnt exaclt yget an A in maths |
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| 17:41.11 | Thunder_Child | or english? |
| 17:41.20 | cryogen | my english is fine |
| 17:41.23 | cryogen | i just cant type for shit |
| 17:41.34 | cryogen | there's a subtle, but distinct, difference :) |
| 17:41.54 | Shirik | krka_: I never said you were wrong, only that the argument has been made |
| 17:42.22 | Shirik | As for me, I couldn't give a damn. I'm only concerned with how computer hardware tries to represent these numbers. |
| 17:42.31 | krka_ | yeah, that's a somewhat reasonable argument |
| 17:42.37 | cryogen | hmm actually i DID get an A in maths, just not at A level |
| 17:42.41 | krka_ | based on preserving some of the mathematical laws, i presume |
| 17:43.00 | krka_ | such as, if a - b = c, then a = b + c |
| 17:43.14 | Thunder_Child | f_n(x) = \begin{cases} 2n(1-nx), & \mbox{if } 0 \le x \le \frac{1}{n} \\ 0, & \mbox{if } \frac{1}{n} < x \le 1\end{cases} |
| 17:43.23 | krka_ | yay, tex |
| 17:43.25 | Thunder_Child | heh, the pics translate into text |
| 17:43.36 | Shirik | I have long since forgotten how to write that stuff |
| 17:43.36 | krka_ | what pics? |
| 17:43.48 | Thunder_Child | the formulas |
| 17:43.56 | Thunder_Child | they are images, not text |
| 17:44.09 | Shirik | well you're both correct |
| 17:44.11 | krka_ | what pics? |
| 17:44.19 | Thunder_Child | http://upload.wikimedia.org/math/e/c/1/ec12e8cef7fb84d5fd7eb43fae516e4d.png |
| 17:44.39 | Thunder_Child | that can be draged into irc and be given a string of text |
| 17:44.40 | krka_ | on which page is that? |
| 17:44.46 | Shirik | krka_: Those are indeed images |
| 17:44.46 | Shirik | <img class="tex" alt="f(x) = \frac{1}{x^2}" src="http://upload.wikimedia.org/math/2/b/f/2bf2e99af540d122724928cc6d8b3334.png" /> |
| 17:44.47 | Thunder_Child | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Extended_real_number_line |
| 17:44.55 | Shirik | however.... they are created using text |
| 17:44.56 | Shirik | tex* |
| 17:45.04 | Shirik | so you're both right :P |
| 17:45.09 | krka_ | yeah, it's the alt-text |
| 17:45.15 | Thunder_Child | so they are |
| 17:45.23 | krka_ | clever browser |
| 17:45.37 | cladhaire | then downloadable BC client |
| 17:45.54 | cladhaire | do you need the original client installed to install it? |
| 17:46.06 | Thunder_Child | i think so |
| 17:46.17 | cladhaire | hrm |
| 17:46.18 | Thunder_Child | or the DL would be excedingly large |
| 17:46.24 | cladhaire | its already 1.18 gigs :P |
| 17:46.38 | Thunder_Child | my wow directory is 7.xx gb |
| 17:46.46 | cladhaire | yes, that's unpacked :P |
| 17:46.47 | cryogen | yes you do |
| 17:46.52 | Thunder_Child | and with the test server |
| 17:47.07 | cladhaire | hrm, gotta find the torrent for the orig nomw |
| 17:47.08 | cog|work | cladhaire: not very unpacked... aren't the MPQs already compressed? |
| 17:47.28 | cladhaire | cog|work: yeah, but its four CD images |
| 17:47.36 | cladhaire | it still decompresses a bit |
| 17:47.51 | cryogen | took me like 2-3 days to install wow + tbc when i came back to wow after quitting before tbc came out :) |
| 17:47.54 | Kaydeethree | the original wow ships with 5 CDs now iirc |
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| 17:48.22 | cryogen | you need to install wow, then download and install the latest patches, and then download and install bc |
| 17:48.27 | cryogen | and then download and install patches for that! |
| 17:48.38 | cog|work | yeah... they're probably using heavier compression on the installer since decompressing takes time.. |
| 17:48.40 | cladhaire | cryogen: thats what i thought.. downloding both now. |
| 17:48.44 | cryogen | not someting i ever want to repeat |
| 17:48.45 | cryogen | ever. |
| 17:48.50 | Lopeppeppy | I download patches from FilePlanet, it's soooo much quicker for me. |
| 17:49.00 | Lopeppeppy | And happier to my firewall. |
| 17:49.03 | cryogen | i just copied the WoW folder to my laptop when i installed it there |
| 17:49.06 | cryogen | that was far less painful |
| 17:49.08 | cog|work | I haven't had to /install/ wow in oh... 2 years? |
| 17:49.25 | cog|work | in spite of multiple iterations of various windows versions |
| 17:50.23 | Lopeppeppy | I've re-installed once, when TBC came out. I'll re-install again when I get my new computer. Not too bad, really. |
| 17:50.43 | cryogen | Lopeppeppy: its ok if you have cds |
| 17:50.56 | cladhaire | thats why i'm downloading the client |
| 17:50.58 | cryogen | fsvo ok |
| 17:50.59 | cladhaire | makes it nice and easy |
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| 17:51.49 | Lopeppeppy | Cryogen, I actually used the DVD (?) that came with my expansion to re-install, it was even quicker. Or rather, I bribed someone else to babysit my computer through the process, so maybe I'm crazy. |
| 17:52.05 | cryogen | even better :) |
| 17:52.25 | kergoth | damn.. robert jordan died. heard he was dying but it always hits one by surprise |
| 17:52.30 | Lopeppeppy | I bake a mean bribe. |
| 17:52.51 | krka_ | yeah kergoth :/ |
| 17:52.53 | Shirik | 14(1311:4611:5214) 14(1115cryogen14) you need to install wow, then download and install the latest patches, and then download and install bc |
| 17:52.53 | Shirik | 14(1311:4611:5714) 14(1115cryogen14) and then download and install patches for that! |
| 17:52.54 | Shirik | this is not true |
| 17:53.06 | Shirik | You can skip the downloading patches in between installing wow and BC |
| 17:53.11 | Shirik | I did it a month ago |
| 17:53.26 | kergoth | bc is 2.0, no? just need the patches after taht |
| 17:53.30 | Shirik | exactly |
| 17:53.54 | Kaydeethree | wow 1.x -> BC install -> 2.1.0 -> small patches since then |
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| 17:54.30 | cog|work | and isn't there usually a 2.0.0 -> whatever the current patch is so you only have to download 1? |
| 17:54.44 | Shirik | eh |
| 17:54.47 | Shirik | they've been slacking a bit lately |
| 17:54.52 | cog|work | oh... that's the bc -> 2.1.0 step |
| 17:54.55 | Shirik | you get to like within two minor revisions |
| 17:55.01 | Shirik | but essentially yeah |
| 17:55.19 | cryogen | Shirik: might have changed sinc ei did it, but when i did it i had to |
| 17:55.28 | cryogen | i remember thinking it was odd at the time, exactly because of what you said |
| 17:56.19 | Shirik | http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5gBy7pK1U-kIvTHx4PYeiI8rqBkmg |
| 17:56.28 | kergoth | i'm just glad the launcher grabs the next patch and installs it when loading up the minor patches now, insteado f having to run wow just to end up exiting and applying the patch, every time |
| 17:56.30 | kergoth | time saver |
| 17:57.00 | cryogen | you know you have an old alt when: it doesnt have the ratchet FP |
| 17:57.16 | Josh_Borke | ~lart kergoth |
| 17:57.16 | purl | cuts kergoth into thin stripes |
| 17:57.33 | cryogen | stripes? |
| 17:57.55 | Kaydeethree | or the other 30-or-so flightpaths in the barrens |
| 17:58.02 | cryogen | heh |
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| 17:58.28 | cryogen | all of which are needed of course |
| 17:59.19 | Shirik | Is there any way to control the size of words in ItemRefTooltip? |
| 17:59.28 | Shirik | I noticed that the first time you call AddLine it's larger than the second |
| 17:59.35 | Shirik | which works for now, but I was considering changing how I do it a little |
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| 18:00.24 | Thunder_Child | http://www.wordpress.tokyotimes.org/?p=1822 gah |
| 18:01.04 | Shirik | hmm |
| 18:01.22 | Shirik | maybe we can make the Hello Kitty theme available only in a special "collector's edition" version of Conspiracy |
| 18:01.24 | Shirik | to make it more valuable |
| 18:01.36 | Thunder_Child | ~lart Shirik |
| 18:01.36 | purl | burns Shirik to a crisp with a laser |
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| 18:04.08 | sag_ich_nicht | hey. |
| 18:04.09 | sag_ich_nicht | Shirik. |
| 18:04.29 | Shirik | have you seen the new debugging stuff in Conspiracy, sag_ich_nicht? |
| 18:04.39 | sag_ich_nicht | not yet |
| 18:04.40 | Shirik | fun times |
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| 18:05.00 | sag_ich_nicht | i am busy fixing the breakage ckknight caused with his rock upgrade(not that much for me broke, since i'm awesome, but still) |
| 18:05.07 | sag_ich_nicht | did you steal ideas from Group Buttons yet for conspiracy? |
| 18:05.13 | sag_ich_nicht | if you didn't, you should |
| 18:05.16 | Shirik | haven't stolen anything from anywhere |
| 18:05.23 | Shirik | except DevTools, which I still have to ask Iriel about if that's ok |
| 18:05.23 | sag_ich_nicht | lies |
| 18:05.28 | sag_ich_nicht | http://www.wowinsider.com/2007/05/31/the-creamy-gui-center-group-buttons |
| 18:05.30 | sag_ich_nicht | go |
| 18:05.32 | sag_ich_nicht | steal it |
| 18:05.35 | Shirik | I refuse to steal |
| 18:05.36 | sag_ich_nicht | not the code |
| 18:05.38 | sag_ich_nicht | just the features |
| 18:05.39 | sag_ich_nicht | :P |
| 18:06.04 | sag_ich_nicht | on a more serious note, the functionality is awesome and i'd like to see something similiar to it in conspiracy :) |
| 18:06.05 | Shirik | that looks like something that would have to be a module |
| 18:06.06 | Shirik | we arent' there yet |
| 18:06.11 | sag_ich_nicht | just saying. |
| 18:06.30 | Shirik | though I think we're extremely close |
| 18:06.34 | sag_ich_nicht | god damn it SVN |
| 18:06.37 | sag_ich_nicht | ~stab SVN |
| 18:06.37 | purl | ACTION runs at SVN with an origami Swiss Army knife, and inflicts a nasty paper cut. |
| 18:06.37 | Shirik | ? |
| 18:06.44 | sag_ich_nicht | propagate already to files |
| 18:06.54 | sag_ich_nicht | nothing, just hating on the cronjob on the wowace svn |
| 18:07.06 | Kaydeethree | the cron runs every 20 minutes, right? |
| 18:07.10 | sag_ich_nicht | yes, |
| 18:07.14 | sag_ich_nicht | it's running right now |
| 18:07.17 | sag_ich_nicht | it's still not done |
| 18:07.21 | sag_ich_nicht | thus the stabbery. |
| 18:07.32 | Shirik | what do they have a cron job for? |
| 18:07.45 | sag_ich_nicht | copy from svn.wowace.com to files.wowace.com |
| 18:07.48 | sag_ich_nicht | it's a stupid system, imho |
| 18:07.50 | sag_ich_nicht | but W/E |
| 18:07.52 | Shirik | they can't just do that in a hook script? |
| 18:07.58 | Shirik | it's not like it's some huge task |
| 18:07.59 | sag_ich_nicht | tell that Kaelten. |
| 18:08.15 | Shirik | I could understand if it were some task that needs to be run as a batch process |
| 18:08.18 | sag_ich_nicht | the SVN gets bigger and bigger and the cronjob is taking longer and longer |
| 18:09.08 | kergoth | always fun when a cron job takes long enough that it overlaps the next point where itd be started.. i hope it checks a pidfile or so :P |
| 18:09.08 | cladhaire | Shirik: you get into race condition issues with a hook script |
| 18:09.17 | cladhaire | trust me, the hook didn't scale (not that this does :P) |
| 18:09.37 | sag_ich_nicht | kergoth: it's actually pretty close to doing exactly that right now kergoth |
| 18:09.54 | Shirik | well how do they do it |
| 18:09.56 | Shirik | do they have a static page? |
| 18:10.10 | Josh_Borke | ~lart Shirik |
| 18:10.10 | purl | lowers Shirik's priority |
| 18:10.13 | Shirik | I would make a simple database to store the current revision, file location, etc. |
| 18:10.19 | kergoth | i'd have a small daemon that gets notified by the hook so it knows what to copy at predefined intervals, or so |
| 18:10.27 | sag_ich_nicht | every time i refresh my index, it causes another 0.3 MB traffic on the wowace servers. |
| 18:10.38 | Josh_Borke | kergoth: aye |
| 18:10.39 | Shirik | a little UPDATE page SET rev = n WHERE addonid = x |
| 18:10.44 | Shirik | would take no time at all |
| 18:10.45 | Josh_Borke | kergoth: btw, it does check a pid |
| 18:10.54 | kergoth | ah, good :) |
| 18:10.58 | Shirik | but w/e |
| 18:11.14 | sag_ich_nicht | go tell it kaelten Shirik :P |
| 18:11.31 | sag_ich_nicht | 11 and still not done |
| 18:11.32 | Shirik | you can even do UPDATE LOW PRIORITY |
| 18:11.34 | sag_ich_nicht | *11 minutes |
| 18:11.39 | sag_ich_nicht | /facepalm |
| 18:11.45 | Shirik | and if you really need to go nuts |
| 18:11.47 | sag_ich_nicht | (i want that emote in WoW) |
| 18:11.48 | Shirik | do it in a transaction |
| 18:11.56 | Shirik | integrated thread safety ftw |
| 18:13.05 | sag_ich_nicht | i wish the cronjob had some "i'm done" write to the website somewhere |
| 18:13.08 | sag_ich_nicht | >< |
| 18:13.23 | Shirik | I guess I had better start writing the program that reads all of Conspiracy's files and generates documentation for them, huh |
| 18:13.34 | sag_ich_nicht | yes. |
| 18:13.54 | sag_ich_nicht | 13 minutes.... |
| 18:14.40 | Industrial | I wish there was a frontend to wowace like wowinterface and users wouldnt have to mess or know of any svn, tags were release submits and it had an intergrated wiki/description and bugtracker (even links to projects/wiki page includes are fine) |
| 18:14.49 | sag_ich_nicht | no. |
| 18:14.50 | sag_ich_nicht | go away |
| 18:15.06 | Industrial | how does that not solve.. about everything :D? |
| 18:15.09 | sag_ich_nicht | that would just cause a ton of whiney users that don't know anything about addons to cry |
| 18:15.13 | sag_ich_nicht | the SVN is BETA |
| 18:15.20 | Industrial | they still cry |
| 18:15.23 | sag_ich_nicht | if they want stable software, get it from a release site |
| 18:15.30 | Industrial | so develop stable software |
| 18:15.36 | Industrial | perpetual bate is an excuse |
| 18:15.38 | sag_ich_nicht | i'm not a dev. |
| 18:15.39 | Industrial | beta* |
| 18:15.40 | sag_ich_nicht | go away. |
| 18:15.49 | Industrial | you just dont want to hear it but its true |
| 18:15.54 | sag_ich_nicht | i know it |
| 18:16.00 | sag_ich_nicht | but i'm not a dev |
| 18:16.00 | sag_ich_nicht | so |
| 18:16.02 | sag_ich_nicht | go away |
| 18:16.04 | Industrial | ;D |
| 18:16.14 | sag_ich_nicht | 16 minutes |
| 18:16.17 | foxlit|mac | Incoming evil spam |
| 18:16.19 | sag_ich_nicht | and the cronjob is still not done |
| 18:16.28 | foxlit|mac | get earplugs! |
| 18:16.32 | foxlit|mac | function readRGB565($cshort) { |
| 18:16.32 | foxlit|mac | $c = floor($cshort); |
| 18:16.33 | foxlit|mac | $r = $c & 31; $c = $c >> 5; |
| 18:16.33 | foxlit|mac | $g = $c & 63; $c = $c >> 6; |
| 18:16.33 | foxlit|mac | return array($r << 3, $g << 2, $c << 3); |
| 18:16.33 | foxlit|mac | } |
| 18:16.47 | sag_ich_nicht | actually |
| 18:16.48 | sag_ich_nicht | wait |
| 18:16.49 | sag_ich_nicht | wtf |
| 18:16.55 | Shirik | foxlit|mac: php? |
| 18:16.57 | sag_ich_nicht | *txt |
| 18:16.58 | foxlit|mac | Yes |
| 18:17.03 | sag_ich_nicht | the cronjob should be done |
| 18:17.08 | Shirik | Cide will kill you |
| 18:17.10 | sag_ich_nicht | excuse me WAU |
| 18:17.13 | sag_ich_nicht | what are you doing |
| 18:17.13 | Shirik | But what do you need? |
| 18:17.23 | foxlit|mac | Mainly checking that that works as expected |
| 18:18.10 | foxlit|mac | The background is that you can store a color in two bytes - 5 bits for red, 6 bits for green and 5 bits for blue channels |
| 18:18.35 | Shirik | you want to split this up into three 0-255 values? |
| 18:18.39 | foxlit|mac | Yep |
| 18:18.51 | foxlit|mac | Well, 0-252 or something |
| 18:18.51 | Shirik | why exactly did you use $c ? |
| 18:18.58 | Shirik | oh |
| 18:19.00 | Shirik | Cyan |
| 18:19.00 | Shirik | got it |
| 18:19.20 | cog|work | Shirik: no, "color" |
| 18:19.24 | Shirik | why color? |
| 18:19.25 | Shirik | It's just blue |
| 18:19.33 | foxlit|mac | It's not always blue |
| 18:19.39 | cog|work | it starts out as the whole color value |
| 18:19.40 | Shirik | return array($r << 3, $g << 2, $c << 3) |
| 18:19.40 | foxlit|mac | It just happens to be blue at the end of that |
| 18:19.43 | Shirik | ok |
| 18:19.43 | cog|work | and then gets reduced |
| 18:19.45 | Shirik | got it |
| 18:20.10 | Shirik | lua> tostring(31, 2) |
| 18:20.12 | cladbot | Shirik: 31, |
| 18:20.14 | Shirik | er |
| 18:20.23 | foxlit|mac | no base |
| 18:20.33 | foxlit|mac | lua> log(32)/log(2) |
| 18:20.33 | cladbot | foxlit|mac: 5 |
| 18:20.33 | Shirik | lua> string.format("%x", 31) |
| 18:20.33 | cladbot | Shirik: 1f, |
| 18:21.07 | Shirik | It looks good to me |
| 18:21.11 | Shirik | I was just double checking what I did in my head |
| 18:21.46 | Shirik | I take that back |
| 18:22.12 | Shirik | Shouldn't red be the high 5 bits? |
| 18:23.12 | cog|work | that's what i thought too |
| 18:23.17 | Shirik | And you took the lower 5 |
| 18:23.20 | Shirik | And pushed them out |
| 18:23.29 | Shirik | so I think you have red and blue backwards |
| 18:23.46 | foxlit|mac | That's possible, but that's not the sort of catastrophic results I'm looking for |
| 18:24.35 | Shirik | I'm also confused as to why you do the ASL at the end |
| 18:26.51 | Shirik | function redRGB565($cshort) { $c = floor($cshort); $b = $c & 31; $c >>= 5; $g = $c & 63; $c >>= 6; return array($c, $g, $b); } |
| 18:27.12 | cog|work | Shirik: to normalize for 256 shades of each color |
| 18:27.31 | foxlit|mac | The last 2-3 bits are still 0 |
| 18:28.04 | foxlit|mac | er, nm, cog|work is right. |
| 18:28.44 | cog|work | the function essentially converts 16-bit color to 24-bit with the added bonus of separating out the values into an array |
| 18:29.27 | Shirik | but you don't care that the vales are within [0,255] |
| 18:29.34 | Shirik | you just want there to be 256 different shades |
| 18:29.44 | Shirik | somewhere within [0,2^8-1] |
| 18:30.07 | cog|work | Huh? |
| 18:30.20 | Shirik | I'm still kinda lost on this whole ASL at the end, but I think I got it |
| 18:30.20 | cog|work | i just assumed that he wanted the result to be [0,255] |
| 18:30.29 | cog|work | for each component |
| 18:30.33 | Shirik | if you bit shift you're not going to be within [0,255] |
| 18:30.37 | cog|work | yes |
| 18:30.39 | Shirik | afaict |
| 18:30.47 | cog|work | shifting is just multiplying by 2 |
| 18:30.52 | Shirik | right |
| 18:30.53 | krka_ | or 4! |
| 18:31.29 | Shirik | I'm an iditio |
| 18:31.30 | Shirik | I got it |
| 18:31.33 | krka_ | agreed |
| 18:31.42 | Shirik | you're still skipping out on those last bits |
| 18:31.43 | Shirik | but I get it |
| 18:31.51 | cog|work | oic |
| 18:31.54 | cog|work | yeah... well... |
| 18:32.08 | cog|work | i remember having that probem in PlasmaPong |
| 18:32.09 | Shirik | whether or not you do the shift you'll be within the bounds |
| 18:32.14 | cog|work | we did end up needing to do a divide |
| 18:32.16 | Shirik | but with the shift, the results will be more dramatic |
| 18:32.29 | Shirik | without it, you'd never hit 255 |
| 18:32.42 | Shirik | well, with it you won't either, but you'll be a hell of a lot closer |
| 18:32.44 | foxlit|mac | You'd never hit 255 anyway |
| 18:32.56 | foxlit|mac | But yeah; it doesn't look like there's anything wrong with it |
| 18:33.04 | Shirik | except that you reversed red and blue |
| 18:33.17 | krka_ | why not do: color / prev_max * new_max |
| 18:33.35 | cog|work | multiply first imo |
| 18:34.05 | krka_ | i was speaking mathematically |
| 18:34.09 | foxlit|mac | krka_: Output must be integer |
| 18:34.13 | Shirik | color / prev_max / new_max imo |
| 18:34.19 | foxlit|mac | *natural |
| 18:34.20 | Shirik | just to confuse people |
| 18:34.34 | krka_ | foxlit|mac: so you convert it back from float to integer in the end |
| 18:34.42 | Shirik | I like foxlit|mac's solution really |
| 18:35.01 | Shirik | but then again, I'm biased. The microcontrollers I work on can't handle division |
| 18:35.06 | Shirik | well, they can, but it's a pain |
| 18:35.19 | Shirik | So I avoid division at all costs :P |
| 18:35.21 | foxlit|mac | Lua code of the same function uses floored division |
| 18:35.28 | Thunder_Child | if your a fileplanet subscriber you might want to go http://www.fileplanet.com/betas/crysis_key.aspx i think they are releasing them atm |
| 18:37.19 | Shirik | <3 Thunder_Child |
| 18:37.21 | Shirik | just got a key |
| 18:37.32 | Shirik | I'm not sure I was just allowed to say that |
| 18:37.41 | Thunder_Child | heh, me to, and since it is MP only looks like i will see you in there |
| 18:37.47 | foxlit|mac | quick, report Shirik! |
| 18:38.29 | Thunder_Child | i cant seem to find their NDA |
| 18:38.38 | Shirik | uh |
| 18:38.43 | Shirik | it was shown right before you download the client :P |
| 18:38.50 | Thunder_Child | not the whole thing |
| 18:39.06 | Cide | hahaha, that sign up thing is golden |
| 18:39.12 | Cide | Do you understand English? [Default: Yes] |
| 18:39.32 | foxlit|mac | NDA: You may not say bad things about this game in popular publications |
| 18:39.44 | foxlit|mac | (but do tell all your friends how mega super ultra awesome we all are) |
| 18:39.49 | Shirik | Thunder_Child: I wouldn't know, I just checked the box and hit continue :P |
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| 18:42.33 | Thunder_Child | wow, they have a rather classy flash menu http://www.crytek.com/index.php |
| 18:42.45 | ScytheBlade1 | Where exactly is Omen listed on the new files.wowace.com? What category? |
| 18:43.18 | foxlit|mac | $n += ord(substr($s, $i, 1)) << 8*$i; |
| 18:43.19 | Lopeppeppy | Hrm.... I cheat and List All, and then go alpha. |
| 18:43.28 | ScytheBlade1 | Combat. |
| 18:43.32 | ScytheBlade1 | That works |
| 18:46.22 | foxlit|mac | Let me guess: << 8 works first? |
| 18:46.53 | foxlit|mac | Or not :/ |
| 18:47.14 | ts|skrom | !vs us uldum dalet us uldum fawn |
| 18:47.19 | ThraeBot | ts|skrom: Dalet vs Fawn! Dalet has +2 lvls on Fawn (51 vs 49); A L51 druid and a L49 warrior square off!; 0/41/1 vs 0/40/0; Fawn wins by 792 TBRs! ***OWNED!*** |
| 18:47.30 | ts|skrom | lawl |
| 18:47.47 | ts|skrom | I got a better spec... +2 levels and suddenly he's winning by more now |
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| 18:56.24 | Lopeppeppy | All y'all spreading germs, eeew. |
| 18:56.45 | |Jelly| | *hugs Peppy* :P |
| 18:57.22 | Josh_Borke | purl, hug Lopeppeppy |
| 18:57.23 | purl | ACTION sneaks up on Lopeppeppy and suddenly hugs Lopeppeppy tightly |
| 18:58.03 | Shirik | ~refman |
| 18:58.18 | Shirik | ~luaref |
| 18:58.20 | Shirik | bleh |
| 18:58.24 | Josh_Borke | ~pil |
| 18:58.25 | purl | from memory, pil is Programming in Lua, a book written by the authors of the Lua programming language. The first edition is available free online at http://www.lua.org/pil and covers Lua 5.0. The second edition is available in print from most online bookstores, and covers Lua 5.1. |
| 18:58.34 | Shirik | not that one! |
| 18:58.34 | Shirik | foo |
| 18:58.41 | Shirik | http://www.lua.org/manual/5.1/ |
| 18:58.43 | Shirik | that's what I wanted |
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| 18:59.12 | Shirik | Hm, ok assert doesn't take any extra arguments |
| 18:59.26 | Shirik | question is this: I want assert() to produce a stack trace which is further down than where it is reporting |
| 18:59.47 | Shirik | kinda like the second argument to error() |
| 18:59.49 | Shirik | any way to do that? |
| 18:59.50 | ts|skrom | well I now understand why I've had such a hard time finding a weapon upgrade :( |
| 18:59.52 | ts|skrom | http://www.wowhead.com/?items=2.5&filter=maxrl=51;ub=11;cr=22:20;crs=2:2;crv=10:10 |
| 19:00.26 | foxlit|mac | Behold, the alliance pvp banner: http://vector.digifort.com/blp2image.php |
| 19:00.36 | Shirik | awesome! |
| 19:00.46 | foxlit|mac | [sic] |
| 19:01.14 | Shirik | ok, next question, since nobody has an answer to that :P |
| 19:01.24 | Shirik | Do you think I can hook assert() without breaking secure functionality? I think so |
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| 19:06.03 | foxlit|mac | Does secure functionality use assert? |
| 19:06.22 | foxlit|mac | (Besides, what do you want to hook it for?) |
| 19:06.40 | foxlit|mac | I should read more |
| 19:08.48 | Shirik | I want to add an optional parameter to it |
| 19:09.00 | Shirik | to simulate error()'s optional extra argument |
| 19:09.23 | Shirik | for example |
| 19:09.27 | Shirik | >>> error("Rawr") |
| 19:09.28 | Cide | Shirik: [string "error("Rawr")"]:1: Rawr |
| 19:09.32 | Shirik | >>> error("Rawr", 2) |
| 19:09.33 | Cide | Shirik: Rawr |
| 19:09.37 | Shirik | bad example, really |
| 19:09.42 | Shirik | but Cide doesn't have a call stack :( |
| 19:10.14 | foxlit|mac | if (not assertion) then error (text, level) end? |
| 19:10.22 | foxlit|mac | But you're misusing asserts |
| 19:10.34 | foxlit|mac | They're meant to check on conditions in your code that aren't supposed to happen, ever. |
| 19:11.56 | Shirik | I asked this question a long time ago, nobody objected :( |
| 19:12.02 | Shirik | And in theory it shouldn't ever happen |
| 19:12.05 | krka_ | i agree with foxlit|mac |
| 19:12.06 | Shirik | unless you misuse the API |
| 19:12.21 | Shirik | it's things like this: |
| 19:12.22 | Shirik | assert(type(cat) == 'string' and type(name) == 'string', "Usage: Conspiracy.Encounter:new(cat, name[, phases[, ...]])") |
| 19:12.32 | foxlit|mac | it should be |
| 19:12.38 | foxlit|mac | assert(2 == 1, "Woah!"); |
| 19:13.04 | Shirik | The microsoft APIs use ASSERT() and _ASSERTE() to check when you pass parameters :P |
| 19:13.49 | krka_ | getting the wrong type of argument would be considered a serious error, imo |
| 19:15.00 | Shirik | and that's why assert catches it :P |
| 19:15.08 | Shirik | It shouldn't ever happen |
| 19:15.18 | Shirik | unless mr. programmer is being stupid |
| 19:15.25 | Shirik | like Cidan the other day |
| 19:15.27 | Thunder_Child | bingo |
| 19:18.55 | cladhaire | you should not be hooking it. |
| 19:18.58 | cladhaire | you should add a new function |
| 19:18.59 | cladhaire | i.e. my_assert |
| 19:19.00 | cladhaire | nub |
| 19:19.07 | Shirik | yeah but I don't want to change all that code >< |
| 19:19.12 | Shirik | of course I have to change it anyway |
| 19:19.20 | cladhaire | yeah, don't be a loser. |
| 19:19.34 | Josh_Borke | sed 's/assert/shirik_fails/g' |
| 19:19.53 | cladhaire | word |
| 19:22.03 | sag_ich_nicht | ... |
| 19:22.09 | sag_ich_nicht | shirik loses again i hear? |
| 19:22.10 | sag_ich_nicht | also |
| 19:22.14 | sag_ich_nicht | XUB breaks in the arena |
| 19:22.16 | sag_ich_nicht | -.-* |
| 19:22.57 | Josh_Borke | ~fail shirik |
| 19:22.58 | purl | shirik: Fail. |
| 19:23.30 | Industrial | can I translate AP (14) into DPS? |
| 19:23.47 | Josh_Borke | yes |
| 19:24.10 | [dRaCo] | well, kinda... |
| 19:24.19 | Industrial | http://www.wowhead.com/?item=3198 of power VS http://www.wowhead.com/?item=5201 |
| 19:24.29 | [dRaCo] | autohit with one weapon |
| 19:24.30 | Industrial | i have the staff now |
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| 19:24.46 | [dRaCo] | if you use specials or anything, the dps value is higher |
| 19:25.37 | [dRaCo] | Industrial: sorry, but who cares? you'll get a new one tomorrow anyway |
| 19:25.56 | Industrial | I do, its my weapon and I asked a question about how stats work |
| 19:26.18 | foxlit|mac | a = (2b + c) / 3 |
| 19:26.23 | Industrial | if you dont care just dont reply |
| 19:26.24 | foxlit|mac | b, c are natural, is a always natural? |
| 19:26.44 | krka_ | yes |
| 19:26.56 | foxlit|mac | Hm, interesting, let's talk. I was leaning towards no |
| 19:27.06 | [dRaCo] | I'd say no, too |
| 19:27.07 | krka_ | hm no wait |
| 19:27.12 | krka_ | sorry, i realize i am wrong |
| 19:27.47 | Kaydeethree | if 2b+c % 3 == 0, yes. you can't always promise that, though |
| 19:28.01 | krka_ | you can rarely promise that |
| 19:28.05 | Kaydeethree | indeed |
| 19:28.10 | [dRaCo] | Industrial: not meant that way, sorry. My point was that I wouldnt put that much effort in finding "the best" weapon available, especially for levels that low |
| 19:28.52 | ts|skrom | Industrial you'd have to get 4dps worth of atk power on the hammer not to mention the lost sta/int (assume it's a bg twink?) |
| 19:29.08 | Industrial | nah its not a twink :) I'm level 22 |
| 19:29.11 | ts|skrom | ahh |
| 19:29.22 | ts|skrom | the staff is very superior to the hammer of power in that instance. |
| 19:30.00 | Industrial | mmm its jsut that I got the 2haxe/hammer talent from the enhancement spec tree and cant use it atm ;p |
| 19:30.11 | ts|skrom | lol |
| 19:30.32 | ts|skrom | I know that feeling. Leveling naturally, or with money from "above"? |
| 19:30.44 | Industrial | and hitting stuff with a big hammer is way cooler then with a stick with a red thingy on top |
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| 19:30.57 | Industrial | naturally |
| 19:31.08 | Industrial | its my main :D (my bank alt already has 20+g tho) |
| 19:31.19 | ts|skrom | new server? |
| 19:31.34 | Industrial | nah, I know some people that play there |
| 19:31.34 | ts|skrom | how do you have so much gold already O.o |
| 19:31.40 | Industrial | ah! |
| 19:31.52 | Industrial | skinning, mining, greens and ah resale |
| 19:32.03 | Industrial | ~c eu Vashj Xamth |
| 19:32.07 | ts|skrom | yeah, but... |
| 19:32.15 | ts|skrom | to have that much by level 20 is obscene |
| 19:32.16 | Industrial | er |
| 19:32.17 | Industrial | !c eu Vashj Xamth |
| 19:32.20 | ThraeBot | Industrial: Xamth, Level 21 Draenei Shaman (0/12/0). 612 HP; 877 Mana; 61 mana regen; 28.700 Melee DPS; 10.61% melee crit; 5.57% dodge; 4.92% block; 10 shadow resist (+10);[[ TBR: 125 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/2gpoxb ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/2m2q9h ][ Updated: Mon Sep 17 15:45:42 2007 EST ]] |
| 19:32.35 | ts|skrom | then again, prices could be obscene lol |
| 19:32.40 | Industrial | well when im 30 ill have 50+, and at 4 I have a mount ;D |
| 19:32.48 | Industrial | 40* |
| 19:32.59 | ts|skrom | that's pretty impressive i must say. |
| 19:33.29 | ts|skrom | I remember my first toon. I felt so proud to have like... 10g at level 20 doing a LOT of blacksmithing |
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| 19:33.32 | [dRaCo] | Industrial: got a group for shadowfang keep? http://www.wowhead.com/?item=3194 is pretty cool for that level. |
| 19:33.34 | Industrial | just keep melting that shit ;P |
| 19:33.41 | ts|skrom | back when those 3agi daggers went for 1g each |
| 19:34.11 | Industrial | 0.1% drop, [dRaCo] :) |
| 19:34.28 | Industrial | ts|skrom: i once made 50g from linen cloth |
| 19:34.43 | Industrial | ts|skrom: i bought out all linen cloth at loss, but controlled the market for 4 days |
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| 19:34.57 | [dRaCo] | boe, you might be lucky and find one on the AH |
| 19:35.02 | Industrial | I was the only supplier so i made it 50s per stack ;P |
| 19:36.27 | Industrial | ~horrible dream, wonderful nightmare~ |
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| 19:37.51 | Industrial | [dRaCo]: verigan's fist is pretty imba to have in a paladin level 21 :P, seal of command == 300 crits |
| 19:38.17 | Shirik | !ap 1615 |
| 19:38.17 | ThraeBot | Shirik: Arena points from a rating of 1615 is, 2v2: 357, 3v3: 408, 5v5: 511 |
| 19:38.24 | Shirik | !ap 1478 |
| 19:38.24 | ThraeBot | Shirik: Arena points from a rating of 1478 is, 2v2: 257, 3v3: 294, 5v5: 367 |
| 19:38.26 | Shirik | heh |
| 19:38.31 | Shirik | we have more points from our 2v2 than we do from 3v3 |
| 19:38.37 | [dRaCo] | too bad it's pala only :/ |
| 19:40.01 | Industrial | yeah |
| 19:40.31 | Josh_Borke | hate @ paladins |
| 19:40.56 | Industrial | not hard to duel with my shammy so far :P just nuke all their buffs and they are useless |
| 19:40.58 | Saint-N | thats cuz the 32rd person is dragging you down! |
| 19:41.03 | Saint-N | 3rd |
| 19:46.46 | Cidan | so |
| 19:46.49 | Cidan | mudkipz? |
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| 19:55.47 | Shirik | mudkipz |
| 20:03.49 | Shirik | !ap 1648 |
| 20:03.49 | ThraeBot | Shirik: Arena points from a rating of 1648 is, 2v2: 387, 3v3: 443, 5v5: 553 |
| 20:06.21 | Shirik | lua> 1630-1208 |
| 20:06.22 | cladbot | Shirik: 422 |
| 20:06.24 | Shirik | !ar 422 |
| 20:06.25 | ThraeBot | Shirik: Arena rating from 422 points is, 2v2: 1685, 3v3: 1628, 5v5: 1541 |
| 20:07.44 | foxlit|mac | ouchouchouchouchouch |
| 20:07.54 | Shirik | ? |
| 20:07.57 | Kaydeethree | stub your toe? |
| 20:07.58 | foxlit|mac | Those 4x4 pixel blocks DXT is based on |
| 20:08.21 | foxlit|mac | I've been plotting them as 16x1 and then wondering why the heck the thing looks ugly |
| 20:09.11 | Cidan | oh shirik |
| 20:09.14 | Cidan | btw |
| 20:09.16 | Cidan | hi. |
| 20:09.16 | Shirik | can't talk in arena |
| 20:09.19 | Cidan | BO |
| 20:09.19 | Shirik | gotta hit 1685 |
| 20:09.20 | Cidan | BOO |
| 20:09.25 | Josh_Borke | ~lart shirik |
| 20:09.25 | purl | sends a legion of lawyers after shirik's head |
| 20:09.30 | Josh_Borke | btw, my arena group sucks |
| 20:09.39 | Josh_Borke | spriest, frost mage, resto druid, rogue, hunter |
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| 20:14.29 | foxlit|mac | http://vector.digifort.com/blp2image.php |
| 20:16.04 | Shirik | !ap 1610 |
| 20:16.04 | ThraeBot | Shirik: Arena points from a rating of 1610 is, 2v2: 353, 3v3: 403, 5v5: 504 |
| 20:16.30 | Shirik | ok so |
| 20:16.32 | Shirik | Cidan, what did you want? |
| 20:16.39 | Cidan | nothing |
| 20:16.41 | Cidan | was just syaing hi |
| 20:16.42 | Cidan | :D |
| 20:19.36 | Shirik | you know what I want? |
| 20:20.10 | cog|work | A saussage? |
| 20:20.53 | Kaydeethree | bah. I need more caffeine or something... dunno where in the dark depths of hell I pulled http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=1602655598&sid=1#10 from |
| 20:23.06 | cladhaire | foxlit|mac: nice |
| 20:24.09 | ts|skrom | anyone got any experience with exchange 2003 and IMF? |
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| 20:32.16 | cog|work | ts|skrom: I think anyone in this channel who does would be too embarrassed to admit it :P |
| 20:33.30 | Shirik | Actually I think my school moved to an exchange server |
| 20:33.37 | Shirik | but I still use webmail |
| 20:34.07 | ts|skrom | :O |
| 20:34.11 | Josh_Borke | ~lart shirik |
| 20:34.11 | purl | blames shirik for all the evil in the world |
| 20:34.16 | ts|skrom | what's wrong with exchange? >< |
| 20:34.19 | Josh_Borke | perfect :-D |
| 20:34.22 | Shirik | eh, in all honesty |
| 20:34.24 | Josh_Borke | ts|skrom: it sucks |
| 20:34.26 | Shirik | I just don't want to learn anything new |
| 20:34.30 | Shirik | I know how to use webmail |
| 20:34.35 | Shirik | going to stick to it until they drop it |
| 20:34.35 | ts|skrom | I've had little problem with it Josh_Borke |
| 20:34.58 | Josh_Borke | i'm sure, i'm just being antagonistic |
| 20:35.03 | ts|skrom | I see |
| 20:35.17 | Josh_Borke | kinda grumpy all of a sudden |
| 20:35.34 | Shirik | wtf is internet explorer doing |
| 20:35.37 | Shirik | die! |
| 20:35.58 | Shirik | It's all like "For your security, this webpage must be opened in a new window. Click ok to open a new window." |
| 20:36.02 | Shirik | I click OK, nothing happens. |
| 20:40.02 | foxlit|mac | That's not IE, tbh |
| 20:40.20 | foxlit|mac | That's somebody's javascript pretending to be smarter than it is |
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| 20:51.09 | ts|skrom | dum de dum dum |
| 20:51.35 | ts|skrom | playing around with custom weighting in IMF because I've got a false positive from an email from my copier |
| 20:51.54 | ts|skrom | could have just set the ip address of the copier to be always allowed and been done 3 hours ago |
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| 21:05.29 | Intangir | ive seen some cheaters on wow |
| 21:05.39 | Intangir | they were getting lose of the start area on AB |
| 21:05.46 | Intangir | and 5 capping the whole map before gates opened |
| 21:06.05 | Kaydeethree | there's usually a gate exploit once every other month or so |
| 21:06.06 | Industrial | meh that was way befor the climb patch right? |
| 21:06.16 | Kaydeethree | the mage bilnk exploit in EoTS still works... |
| 21:06.18 | Intangir | it was last night |
| 21:06.24 | Intangir | one was a warrior |
| 21:06.28 | Intangir | one was a mage |
| 21:06.34 | Intangir | didnt see what the 3rd was |
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| 21:17.47 | Shirik | hmmm |
| 21:17.54 | Shirik | how does one go about fixing an infinite loop at startup? |
| 21:18.17 | Shirik | nm, it finally got through |
| 21:18.27 | Shirik | Message: ..\AddOns\Conspiracy\Root.lua line 72: |
| 21:18.28 | Shirik | stack overflow |
| 21:18.28 | Shirik | ftw |
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| 21:32.29 | cog|work | Wow.... The room where i work is a full 12 deg warmer than the room with the thermostat (i.e. the boss's room) |
| 21:32.38 | Kaydeethree | ouch |
| 21:33.27 | cog|work | 4 large monitors, 2 computers, 2 people and a refrigerator... |
| 21:33.51 | cog|work | and poor ventilation |
| 21:36.58 | Thunder_Child | hmm..my last work room had 12 monitors, 4 computers, 4 people, 1 refriderator, 1 server rack (full), and a partridge in a pear tree |
| 21:37.50 | Thunder_Child | and it hit over 100 in the summer |
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| 21:38.36 | cog|work | I work in an actual kitchen. They only built two offices and a front desk here... Me and the bookkeeper are crammed into this room and my wife when she comes in part time uses a laptop at a counter in the lab |
| 21:39.25 | cog|work | Sometimes the winemaker has to boil water and/or run the dishwasher... it can get up to 83 in here |
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| 21:39.53 | cog|work | and still be a comfortable 68 in the rest of the building :( |
| 21:43.49 | nevcairiel | does anyone remember the url to check the "breaking news" ingame thing from web? |
| 21:44.30 | Olison | im interested in that as well |
| 21:45.20 | Kaydeethree | gimme a sec, I'll fire up wireshark and check |
| 21:46.05 | bleeter | it's something /alert :) |
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| 21:46.49 | cog|work | Kaydeethree: do you have a link to a blue post that the PTR is expecting another push? |
| 21:47.14 | bleeter | cog|work: http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=1602204647&sid=1 in that thread, iirc |
| 21:47.29 | cog|work | bleeter: thanks |
| 21:47.41 | Kaydeethree | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=1602204647&sid=1 |
| 21:47.44 | Kaydeethree | bah, too slow |
| 21:48.43 | Kaydeethree | http://12.129.242.21/alert |
| 21:49.56 | bleeter | that IP does change, though... whether it's on various patches, or some kinda push from the servers, I've never look closely into it |
| 21:50.13 | sag_ich_nicht | http://yro.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=07/09/17/1948238 ahahahahaha |
| 21:50.16 | sag_ich_nicht | trent ftw. |
| 21:50.31 | Kaydeethree | there's a range of IPs that the client can check |
| 21:50.38 | Kaydeethree | the BGD does the same thing in that range |
| 21:50.57 | Kaydeethree | this time it checked .232.128 |
| 21:51.27 | Kaydeethree | er, no. that was the launcher checking something |
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| 21:53.01 | cog|work | sag_ich_nicht: i saw that too <3 |
| 21:53.33 | sag_ich_nicht | ~lart cog|work |
| 21:53.33 | purl | makes a balloon animal out of cog|work |
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| 21:54.34 | Esamynn | twisted huh? |
| 21:54.39 | cog|work | bleeter: http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=1602495660&pageNo=2&sid=1#29 <---- Where's my.... umm.... hmm... we never actually bet, did we? |
| 21:54.42 | sag_ich_nicht | no sprocket and no patch make sag_ich_nicht something something |
| 21:54.44 | sag_ich_nicht | no sprocket and no patch make sag_ich_nicht something something |
| 21:55.00 | sag_ich_nicht | ~lart cog|work |
| 21:55.00 | purl | puts cog|work into a headlock and administers a mighty noogie, rubbing half of cog|work's hair of |
| 21:55.06 | cog|work | Esamynn:[14:56]<sag_ich_nicht>~lart cog|work |
| 21:55.08 | cog|work | * purlmakes a balloon animal out of cog|work |
| 21:55.14 | Esamynn | ahhh |
| 21:55.22 | sag_ich_nicht | no sprocket and no patch make sag_ich_nicht something something |
| 21:55.33 | Esamynn | ~poke sag_ich_nicht |
| 21:55.33 | purl | ACTION cuts down a small tree, sneaks up behind sag_ich_nicht, pokes sag_ich_nicht repeatedly, hilarity ensues. |
| 21:55.39 | sag_ich_nicht | no sprocket and no patch make sag_ich_nicht something something |
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| 21:55.49 | bleeter | cog|work: nope... I made that mistake once before :P |
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| 21:56.12 | cog|work | /mu checkles |
| 21:56.25 | sag_ich_nicht | no |
| 21:56.29 | sag_ich_nicht | you're blaming the wrong person |
| 21:56.34 | sag_ich_nicht | erm |
| 21:56.34 | sag_ich_nicht | no |
| 21:56.36 | sag_ich_nicht | i am too |
| 21:56.36 | sag_ich_nicht | hold |
| 21:56.41 | sag_ich_nicht | fixed. |
| 21:57.28 | cog|work | I have a 6th sense for patch days |
| 21:58.45 | sag_ich_nicht | ~lart cog|work |
| 21:58.45 | purl | slaps cog|work upside and over the head with one freakishly huge killer whale named hugh |
| 21:58.49 | sag_ich_nicht | no sprocket and no patch make sag_ich_nicht something something |
| 21:59.08 | Esamynn | ~lart sag_ich_nicht |
| 21:59.08 | purl | frags sag_ich_nicht with his BFG9000 |
| 21:59.19 | cog|work | sag_ich_nicht: you're supposed to lart Shirik... He's the scape goat... |
| 21:59.20 | sag_ich_nicht | ~destroy Esamynn |
| 21:59.20 | purl | no |
| 21:59.26 | Esamynn | :P |
| 21:59.27 | sag_ich_nicht | no sprocket and no patch make sag_ich_nicht something something |
| 21:59.29 | Esamynn | ~botsnack |
| 21:59.29 | purl | :), Esamynn |
| 21:59.32 | Kaydeethree | ok... wth. could any of you on a windows machine with a packet sniffer start wow and see if it tries to GET /update/PatchSequenceFIle.txt from all 12 servers in the pool? |
| 21:59.34 | Esamynn | ~bzfrag sag_ich_nicht |
| 21:59.34 | purl | ACTION skewers sag_ich_nicht with a super bullet |
| 21:59.35 | sag_ich_nicht | cog|work: no, that'd be Cidan |
| 21:59.47 | cog|work | Cidan, Shirik... same difference |
| 21:59.51 | sag_ich_nicht | ~whaleparry Esamynn and cog|work |
| 21:59.51 | purl | ACTION uses a slightly less-huge but eminently more agile killer whale named Edwardo to parry Esamynn and cog|work's attacks. |
| 21:59.58 | sag_ich_nicht | no sprocket and no patch make sag_ich_nicht something something |
| 22:00.15 | cog|work | sag_ich_nicht: what exactly do you think I have to do with sprocket? |
| 22:00.20 | cog|work | oh... |
| 22:00.23 | Esamynn | lol |
| 22:00.35 | Cidan | wait what? |
| 22:00.54 | sag_ich_nicht | cog|work last time i heard you were the latest volunteer to rewrite it for 2.x |
| 22:00.59 | sag_ich_nicht | ~lart Cidan |
| 22:00.59 | purl | nabs the moon and broadsides Cidan with the sea of tranquility |
| 22:00.59 | Esamynn | Kaydeethree: isn't doing that sort of analysis techincally against the ToS? :P |
| 22:01.01 | sag_ich_nicht | no sprocket and no patch make sag_ich_nicht something something |
| 22:01.03 | cog|work | O.O |
| 22:01.05 | cog|work | news to me... |
| 22:01.15 | cog|work | SS or it didn't happen |
| 22:01.34 | Cidan | I put forward the theory that once something enters your computer, you are free to do with it as you see fit |
| 22:01.36 | Kaydeethree | yes, but I'm packet sniffing the launcher, not the client |
| 22:01.37 | cog|work | Last i heard I haven't updated any of my mods in oh... 3-4 months because I've got too much on my plate :P |
| 22:01.46 | sag_ich_nicht | i think either cladhaire or cairene said it |
| 22:01.55 | Cidan | in a private sense, that is. |
| 22:02.09 | sag_ich_nicht | (yes i missspelled her name there, sue me) |
| 22:02.12 | Kaydeethree | 12.129.232.126-132 and 206.16.22.126-132, by the way |
| 22:02.20 | sag_ich_nicht | Kaydeethree too lazy. |
| 22:02.22 | cog|work | sag_ich_nicht: unfortunately searching for "cogwheel" and "sprocket" is in vain :P |
| 22:02.24 | sag_ich_nicht | and i go to bed now |
| 22:02.31 | sag_ich_nicht | purl |
| 22:02.34 | sag_ich_nicht | can you confirm this |
| 22:02.46 | cog|work | ~sprocket |
| 22:02.47 | purl | . URL: http://sps.ptf.hro.nl/sprocket |
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| 22:04.27 | sag_ich_nicht | that url is dead |
| 22:04.29 | sag_ich_nicht | just like sprocket. |
| 22:04.35 | sag_ich_nicht | someone fix it already :( |
| 22:04.47 | mikma | purl: no, sprocket is <reply> dead |
| 22:04.48 | purl | mikma: okay |
| 22:04.53 | mikma | there, fixed |
| 22:05.02 | Kaydeethree | ~sprocket |
| 22:05.02 | purl | dead |
| 22:05.44 | alestane | I seek advice. |
| 22:06.57 | [dRaCo] | cool. |
| 22:07.39 | cog|work | alestane: Don't stick a paper clip in a power socket |
| 22:08.50 | alestane | I need to for instance, take a string like "[dead,resting][noresting][exists]" and split it into the two strings, "[dead][exists]" and "[][exists]" (ignore usefulness of these condition sets for the moment). |
| 22:08.57 | mikma | in finland you can stick 2 thick nails (made from iron) into the power socket |
| 22:09.02 | mikma | and we have 230w! |
| 22:09.17 | bleeter | in soviet russia, power sockets stick nails into you |
| 22:09.35 | sag_ich_nicht | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=1602255761&sid=1 GOD DAMN IT |
| 22:09.40 | sag_ich_nicht | someone get them to fix this |
| 22:09.45 | sag_ich_nicht | i don't want this to make it into live |
| 22:09.46 | sag_ich_nicht | >_< |
| 22:09.53 | cog|work | alestane: that would take a very complex parser if i'm understanding correctly |
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| 22:10.12 | alestane | Is that I everything I think of seems to be hard? |
| 22:10.25 | mikma | that's just druids getting overpower |
| 22:10.53 | sag_ich_nicht | it's like that in live. it is supposed to be fixed in 2.2 |
| 22:10.59 | sag_ich_nicht | but it's not on the PTR apparently |
| 22:10.59 | sag_ich_nicht | >_< |
| 22:11.41 | Thunder_Child | stupid sidebar uses more CPU than the game i'm playing |
| 22:11.50 | [dRaCo] | alestane: got a lot of conditionals? |
| 22:12.56 | alestane | Basically, starting with a string of conditions and an "extra condition", I need to put all clauses that contain the positive qualifier in one string, all the clauses that contain the negative qualifier in another (stripping either version of that qualifier out of those clauses), and all clauses containing no version of that qualifier in both strings. All clauses must remain in the order they were in originally. |
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| 22:14.05 | alestane | I think I can use gmatch to walk across the clauses one by one in order. |
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| 22:15.03 | [dRaCo] | if you've got few conditions, you could use a simple array to save your data |
| 22:15.16 | alestane | It should work for any number of conditions. |
| 22:15.55 | [dRaCo] | so ppl could invite their own conditions? |
| 22:16.24 | alestane | While it's better to avoid garbage, it will be run only in response to user configuration requests, so mostly during low-performance demand times in response to user input. |
| 22:16.31 | cog|work | My guess is you would need to parse it into some sort of table. You'd need to establish what conditions have been checked at each point in the list. once you have that established you would be able to render a new set of conditions |
| 22:16.34 | alestane | Draco: Not really. |
| 22:16.44 | cog|work | It would basically be a simple compiler |
| 22:16.50 | [dRaCo] | then I'd go for an array. |
| 22:16.58 | alestane | My addon uses a couple in addition to the standard set, but they can't be swapped out during combat. |
| 22:17.17 | sag_ich_nicht | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=1531043474&sid=1 <--wow that sucks |
| 22:17.34 | alestane | The most annoying part I'm trying to deal with is the stripping out of the original qualifier. |
| 22:19.11 | alestane | Because it has to be equally functional in cases of ",resting,", "[resting,", ",resting]" and "[resting]". |
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| 22:19.43 | sag_ich_nicht | i go to bed |
| 22:19.45 | sag_ich_nicht | night |
| 22:19.47 | sag_ich_nicht | OH WAIT |
| 22:19.50 | sag_ich_nicht | YOU! |
| 22:19.53 | sag_ich_nicht | ~lart Antiarc |
| 22:19.53 | purl | slams Antiarc against a large cement Tux |
| 22:20.39 | art3mis | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:20.41 | alestane | My two possible angles so far are 1) to replace it with a comma and then use a simpler gsub that fixes comma rules, or 2) to give gsub a function that correctly handles the captures. |
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| 22:21.04 | mikma | what BG weekend is coming? |
| 22:21.11 | cog|work | EotS |
| 22:21.14 | sag_ich_nicht | ckknight broke threat-1.0 by upgrading parser, i suggest you go look into it Antiarc |
| 22:21.22 | sag_ich_nicht | and now, good night. |
| 22:21.23 | mikma | cog|work: thanks |
| 22:21.23 | Antiarc | I know. |
| 22:21.32 | alestane | But it sounds like no matter what I do, it's likely to be a bit of a programming headache. |
| 22:23.29 | cog|work | mikma: FYI: worldofwarcraft.com->Events Calendar ;) |
| 22:23.48 | mikma | cog|work: ooh, didn't know that existed |
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| 22:27.22 | alestane | One last question about my quandary then...is there a better way to separate a string into its "[.*]" (I know it's a bad pattern, YGTI) parts than string.gmatch? Something that will just return them as a list? |
| 22:27.50 | cladhaire | whast the separator character? |
| 22:27.53 | [dRaCo] | dunno, but is there any kind of tokenize in lua? |
| 22:28.16 | cladhaire | tokenizing idn't meaningful without understanding an explicit pattern |
| 22:28.17 | cog|work | alestane: if you don't want to generate more garbage than necessary, you can use string.find |
| 22:28.39 | cog|work | since it returns the position of the match and you can pass it a starting position |
| 22:28.48 | alestane | cladhaire: Nothing I want to drop out of the strings or I'd use strsplit. It's a series of macro conditions and I want to separate it into the individual clauses. |
| 22:28.54 | cog|work | but string.gmatch is much simpler |
| 22:29.15 | cladhaire | then, what cog|work says |
| 22:29.37 | [dRaCo] | clad: tokenizing with ] should give you the parts, shouldnt it? |
| 22:29.51 | alestane | so "[combat][dead][help]" should become "[combat]", "[dead]", and "[help]" |
| 22:30.28 | cladhaire | lua> for token in ("[combat][dead][help]"):gmatch("%b[]") do print(token) End |
| 22:30.28 | cladbot | cladhaire: sandbox.lua:285: Compilation failed: [string "for token in ("[combat][dead][help]"):gmatch("%b[]") do print(t..."]:1: '=' expected near '<eof>' |
| 22:30.32 | cladhaire | lua> for token in ("[combat][dead][help]"):gmatch("%b[]") do print(token) end |
| 22:30.32 | cladbot | cladhaire: [combat], [dead], [help] |
| 22:30.56 | alestane | What the hell? |
| 22:31.01 | [dRaCo] | h4x. |
| 22:31.26 | cog|work | alestane: note that every call to gmatch generates a new closure |
| 22:31.32 | cladhaire | indeed |
| 22:31.55 | alestane | A little garbage is acceptable. It's an infrequently run routine never called in combat. |
| 22:32.44 | alestane | Since when can functions in the string. package be called as methods (I presume that's what's happening there)? |
| 22:32.51 | cladhaire | since 5.1 |
| 22:32.58 | cladhaire | when the string type gets string as a metatable |
| 22:33.18 | cladhaire | lua> local str = "some string" print(getmetatable(str).__index == string) |
| 22:33.19 | cladbot | cladhaire: false |
| 22:33.25 | alestane | Does it say that in the docs somewhere? |
| 22:33.27 | cladhaire | but apparently its a different table |
| 22:33.33 | cladhaire | its in the refman, if no where else. |
| 22:33.53 | cladhaire | lua> for k,v in pairs(getmetatable("String")) do print(k,v) end |
| 22:33.53 | cladbot | cladhaire: __index, { ["split"] = function: 0x8070260, ["match"] = function: 0x806f2e0, ["gmatch"] = function: 0x806f1e0, ["upper"] = function: 0x806f3e0, ["gsub"] = function: 0x806f220, ["format"] = function: 0x806f160, ["lower"] = function: 0x806f2a0, ["sub"] = fu... (result truncated) |
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| 22:34.09 | cladhaire | lua> for k,v in pairs(getmetatable(14) do print(k,v) end |
| 22:34.09 | cladbot | cladhaire: sandbox.lua:285: Compilation failed: [string "for k,v in pairs(getmetatable(14) do print(k,v) end"]:1: ')' expected near 'do' |
| 22:34.16 | cladhaire | lua> for k,v in pairs(getmetatable(14)) do print(k,v) end |
| 22:34.17 | cladbot | cladhaire: [string "for k,v in pairs(getmetatable(14)) do print..."]:1: bad argument #1 to 'pairs' (table expected, got nil) |
| 22:34.27 | cladhaire | you can set one for numbers if you desire |
| 22:34.28 | cog|work | alestane: if it's in PiL it would be in the 2nd ed. which isn't the one on lua.org |
| 22:34.31 | cladhaire | it gets messy, and fun |
| 22:34.42 | alestane | And I don't quite get the %b[] part...how does that work out to "%[[^%]]*]" |
| 22:34.58 | alestane | And I thought you could only set metatables on non-tables from C. |
| 22:35.06 | cog|work | alestane: http://www.lua.org/pil/20.2.html |
| 22:35.16 | cog|work | last paragraphs |
| 22:35.41 | alestane | Is that new? I didn't see that in the Lua manual. |
| 22:35.57 | cog|work | That's the 5.0 Programming in Lua |
| 22:36.18 | cladhaire | alestane: %b is a pattern that matches the first set of balanced characters you provide |
| 22:36.32 | foxlit|mac | Hrm |
| 22:36.56 | cladhaire | lua> for token in ("^combat$ ^dead$ ^monkey$"):gmatch("%b^$") do print(token) end |
| 22:36.57 | cladbot | cladhaire: ^combat$, ^dead$, ^monkey$ |
| 22:37.01 | cladhaire | etc |
| 22:37.03 | foxlit|mac | lua> ("I link [Purple [Epic] Items]"):match("(%b[]"); |
| 22:37.03 | cladbot | foxlit|mac: [string "("I link [Purple [Epic] Items]"):match("(%b..."]:1: unfinished capture |
| 22:37.04 | cog|work | also http://www.lua.org/manual/5.1/manual.html#5.4.1 |
| 22:37.14 | foxlit|mac | ua> ("I link [Purple [Epic] Items]"):match("(%b[]")); |
| 22:37.23 | cog|work | ~fail foxlit|mac |
| 22:37.23 | purl | foxlit|mac: Fail. |
| 22:37.23 | foxlit|mac | lua> ("I link [Purple [Epic] Items]"):match("(%b[]")); |
| 22:37.23 | cladbot | foxlit|mac: sandbox.lua:285: Compilation failed: [string "("I link [Purple [Epic] Items]"):match("(%b[]"));"]:1: unexpected symbol near ')' |
| 22:37.40 | foxlit|mac | lua> ("I link [Purple [Epic] Items]"):match("(%b[])"); |
| 22:37.41 | cladbot | foxlit|mac: [Purple [Epic] Items], |
| 22:38.36 | cladhaire | also the 5.1 reference manual, which is freely available indicates the string/metatable stuff |
| 22:38.37 | cladhaire | http://www.lua.org/manual/5.1/manual.html#5.4 |
| 22:39.07 | cladhaire | however, this can get confusing, since string.join and string.sep are available this way.. but they do NOT follow the same parameter order. |
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| 22:39.23 | cladhaire | lua> string.sep(",", "combat,dead,help") |
| 22:39.23 | cladbot | cladhaire: [string "string.sep(",", "combat,dead,help")"]:1: attempt to call field 'sep' (a nil value) |
| 22:39.29 | cladhaire | lua> strsplit(",", "combat,dead,help") |
| 22:39.30 | cladbot | cladhaire: combat, dead, help, |
| 22:39.58 | cladhaire | lua> (","):split("combat, dead, help") |
| 22:39.58 | cladbot | cladhaire: combat, dead, help, |
| 22:40.05 | cladhaire | you have to call it backwards :P |
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| 22:43.27 | alestane | That'll help anyway, thanks...gotta go for a while. |
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| 23:00.46 | Arrowmaster | arent string.join and string.split added by wow? |
| 23:00.57 | Arrowmaster | hence why theyre backwards |
| 23:01.02 | cladhaire | they are |
| 23:01.06 | cladhaire | but that doesn't excuse it |
| 23:01.21 | cladhaire | they could have been written with the parameters in the right order. |
| 23:01.29 | Arrowmaster | yeah failure on blizzards part |
| 23:01.37 | cladhaire | well, blizzard wasn't the first coder |
| 23:01.38 | cladhaire | but yes. |
| 23:01.44 | Arrowmaster | oh |
| 23:01.49 | cladhaire | not something i would call obvious tho, until you try to call it as a method. |
| 23:04.26 | GofG | oh hi guys |
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| 23:05.28 | cog|work | cladhaire: string.join wouldn't make sense the other way imo |
| 23:05.56 | cladhaire | it couldn't be the other way |
| 23:06.01 | cog|work | and split, being its direct counterpart, was arranged to match |
| 23:06.03 | cladhaire | well it would be stupid |
| 23:06.05 | cladhaire | yes i know |
| 23:06.11 | cladhaire | its just a personal perference :P |
| 23:06.45 | cladhaire | i'm just glad we have them |
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| 23:21.49 | cog|work | hmmm.... "Meat gems" |
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| 23:23.42 | [dRaCo] | Freud would've liked that typo. |
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| 23:28.34 | Wraanger | heyaz |
| 23:29.19 | Corrodias | HURT SONY, MAKE PSP COME NOW |
| 23:29.52 | Corrodias | MOO |
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| 23:32.27 | Corrodias | perhaps i should hire superman |
| 23:32.45 | Corrodias | but he'd probably give me x-ray vision cancer just for the heck of it |
| 23:33.05 | Corrodias | and then drop a car on my apartment |
| 23:33.57 | Thunder_Child | no, that would be ...whatchamacallit girl |
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| 23:44.21 | |Jelly| | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=1602585738&sid=1 -- What? |
| 23:48.37 | Corrodias | oh dear. something about fubar's interaction with my minimap has changed. |
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| 23:49.21 | Thunder_Child | i didnt think fubar interacts with minimap at all |
| 23:49.35 | Corrodias | it moves it out of the way via... some library |
| 23:50.42 | Corrodias | but now the "normal" position is saved as the moved position and the unmoved position is hanging off the top edge of the screen |
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| 23:50.49 | Corrodias | i need to delete some positioning info somewhere |
| 23:50.50 | |Jelly| | When did that get implemented? Cause I updated like yesterday or the day before. :\ |
| 23:51.07 | Corrodias | just today, looks like |
| 23:51.34 | |Jelly| | Hmm. |
| 23:51.40 | |Jelly| | Time to back up my addons/wtf, it seems. |
| 23:53.09 | Corrodias | good idea |
| 23:54.19 | |Jelly| | The funny thing is, I haven't updated Pitbull in forever cause well, it always reverts things back to default and pisses me off. Just never cared enough to update and then figure out how to import the layout. |
| 23:56.11 | |Jelly| | Here...goes nothing. : / |
| 23:56.26 | |Jelly| | ....or everything, depending. :\ |
| 23:58.01 | Corrodias | why does my rico's mini map frame start off the screen? damn it |
| 23:58.14 | Corrodias | nothing in layout-cache, nothing in the rico saved variables |
| 23:58.25 | Lunessa | Turn of the "Adjust Frames" feature. |
| 23:58.38 | Lunessa | For FuBar. |
| 23:59.32 | Corrodias | i did |
| 23:59.41 | Corrodias | it's starting partially off the screen now |
| 23:59.54 | Corrodias | fubar's autoadjust moves it into the vanilla wow position |
| 23:59.58 | Corrodias | (which is still too high) |
