| 00:00.09 | Rallion | well, this one has no cup holder, sadly |
| 00:00.23 | Rallion | but in my case, space is an issue |
| 00:00.30 | Rallion | so simple is best |
| 00:02.54 | alestane | Fairly low as chairs go. |
| 00:04.10 | Rallion | i just want something nice to sit in when I'm enjoying my Wii |
| 00:04.24 | Kaydeethree | meh, I just play from bed |
| 00:04.28 | Kaydeethree | <3 wireless controllers |
| 00:05.08 | Rallion | with my space constraints, though, I can't get a good straight-on angle from my bed, and with the Wiimote, that can matter |
| 00:06.30 | Kaydeethree | meh, my TV's angled facing the headboard of my bed. the lightbar works fine |
| 00:08.13 | Kaydeethree | like this: http://www.spyglass-server.com/jtwyford/room/STP80558.JPG |
| 00:10.17 | Kaso | How can you cope with just one monitor so small >.< |
| 00:10.35 | Kaydeethree | it's a 17" and I'm cheap because I don't want to buy a new one |
| 00:10.41 | Kaydeethree | I'm going to get a good dual-head setup in a while |
| 00:10.48 | Kaso | Ive got three 17" tfts layed out infront of me at the moment, and i still find myself running out of space sometimes |
| 00:11.12 | Kaso | I love multi-monitors makes life so much nicer |
| 00:11.53 | Kaydeethree | I'm just used to the multiple-workspace concept. I tend to have stuff spread across my 4 workspaces |
| 00:12.36 | Shirik | omg Kaydeethree |
| 00:12.39 | Shirik | I LOVE YOUR ROOM |
| 00:13.20 | Kaydeethree | I need to take new pics, I've moved a poster around and picked up some more stuff since those were taken a month ago |
| 00:13.59 | Kaso | Whats the poster above the firefox advert, im thinking scarface but im not sure. |
| 00:14.05 | Kaydeethree | fight club |
| 00:14.19 | Kaydeethree | there's a bunch more pics in that folder |
| 00:14.39 | Kaso | ah yes, http://www.topoimagery.com/images/fun/fcorig.jpg i see now |
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| 00:27.28 | Thunder_Child | meh...your room is to bright |
| 00:27.52 | Kaydeethree | blame the flash on the camera |
| 00:27.54 | Thunder_Child | and clean...way to clean |
| 00:28.37 | |Jelly| | WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAYYYYYYYYYYYYY too cloean |
| 00:29.05 | Kaydeethree | you honestly think that I wouldn't clean my room up before taking pictures I intended to show to my parents? |
| 00:29.06 | |Jelly| | s/too/to/ |
| 00:29.37 | |Jelly| | lol |
| 00:30.21 | Thunder_Child | yes |
| 00:30.23 | Thunder_Child | i woudlnt |
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| 00:34.34 | Rallion | my room is filled with crap |
| 00:34.56 | Rallion | like, stuff I at least SORTA want to keep |
| 00:35.06 | Rallion | I should take pictures right now, just to contrast |
| 00:35.07 | Rallion | :P |
| 00:35.29 | |Jelly| | lol |
| 00:35.47 | Rallion | ohm but it's also filled with empty cans and bottles. I try to keep those out of here, but...you know...lazy. |
| 00:36.08 | |Jelly| | clutter in mine. |
| 00:36.14 | |Jelly| | i never quite unpacked. lol |
| 00:37.05 | Rallion | If I were Kay, I'd be more concerned about the poster to the right of the bed than the cleanliness of the room, in regards to my parents. |
| 00:37.27 | Rallion | different parents, I suppose. |
| 00:38.05 | alestane | The Onegai Teacher one? |
| 00:38.18 | |Jelly| | lol |
| 00:38.49 | alestane | I suppose it's a little risque...after you've watched anime for a while, you see things like that and just og, "EH. Fan service." |
| 00:38.49 | Rallion | alestane, I really don't know. but probably, yes. |
| 00:39.32 | alestane | Chick with the magenta hair and the bathing suit? That one? |
| 00:39.49 | Rallion | yeah |
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| 00:40.06 | alestane | That's "Please Teacher", at least in English. |
| 00:41.54 | Rallion | My parents would be all like, "WHAT? You're watching ANIME?! Oh, hey, and boobs. |
| 00:42.00 | Rallion | <close quote.> |
| 00:42.42 | alestane | The short version, high school kid has to marry his teacher who's really an undercover space alien to keep her from losing her job after an awkward encounter having to do with getting locked in a bicycle shed. |
| 00:43.10 | Rallion | see, I've watched a liiittle bit of anime, and shit like what you just said is why it stays that way |
| 00:44.01 | |Jelly| | Rallion: /agree |
| 00:47.51 | Rallion | basically, it's just been FMA, Cowboy Bebop, and a few movies. no interest in taking that any further. |
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| 00:52.01 | FlAWD | http://oink.cd/details.php?id=1533962 |
| 00:52.02 | FlAWD | !!! |
| 00:52.05 | FlAWD | er ... wrong chan :/ |
| 00:54.41 | Thunder_Child | no kidding :) |
| 00:54.58 | alestane | Iriel: The updated version of my proposal is on the thread at WoWInterface, linked in the same Bliz thread (bumped) as before. |
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| 00:59.10 | alestane | Kaydeethree: BTW Kate Elliott is definitely awesome. |
| 01:01.31 | alestane | Have to take off now, later all. |
| 01:10.50 | art3mis | http://www.gothi.ca/Stuff/cyCircled-cross.jpg |
| 01:11.04 | art3mis | the white border turns red when you hover over |
| 01:11.14 | Kaydeethree | meh, it's a fanservice. I've gotten more coments about the gits poster, though |
| 01:11.45 | AnduinLothar | :( no one wants to raid with a ret pally. |
| 01:12.31 | AnduinLothar | took me a while to convince my guild, but our raiding has all but stopped. Now no one near us in progress will take me ret. |
| 01:13.01 | JoshBorke | AnduinLothar: :-( |
| 01:13.07 | JoshBorke | why your guild stop raiding? |
| 01:13.22 | AnduinLothar | we haven't been able to get 25 |
| 01:13.42 | JoshBorke | that sucks |
| 01:13.57 | AnduinLothar | 366 chars in guild and we can't get 25 for ssc |
| 01:14.11 | Cidan | hmm |
| 01:14.13 | AnduinLothar | everyone's got alt-itis |
| 01:15.00 | Cidan | so for fonts, we have a fontobject which is just some abstract object, then we assign it to a font instance via SetFontObject, then we set the font file it self via SetFont? |
| 01:15.04 | Cidan | or am I wrong? |
| 01:15.11 | |Jelly| | There's a guild like that on my server. 350 members. 135 level 70s. Haven't killed Gruul. |
| 01:15.22 | Shirik | ow |
| 01:15.46 | Shirik | we have 110 players, 69 accounts, probably about 40 70s |
| 01:15.52 | Shirik | and... working on BT :) |
| 01:16.15 | AnduinLothar | we have gruul and maggy down, but the first few bosses in SSC gave us trouble, then our raid leader took a break and our raiders all went on vacation or to cons all summer |
| 01:16.17 | JoshBorke | Cidan: sounds about right |
| 01:16.18 | Shirik | though some of us (*cough* me) are still getting gear from Kara ..> |
| 01:16.26 | Cidan | That's so... fucking stupid |
| 01:16.35 | |Jelly| | I doubt I ever see BT at the rate my server's going. |
| 01:17.33 | AnduinLothar | i want to, but my current guild isn't getting there |
| 01:17.52 | AnduinLothar | and no one else will even consider me unelss I go full time healer |
| 01:18.11 | AnduinLothar | which makes me want to curl up and die, cause healing is so boring |
| 01:18.13 | |Jelly| | http://www.wowjutsu.com/us/burninglegion/ *sigh* |
| 01:18.18 | Shirik | Really? I love healing |
| 01:18.35 | AnduinLothar | i healed for 2 yrs. i'm done. it puts me to sleep |
| 01:19.01 | |Jelly| | I don't find it boring, but I would much rather be shadow...even though I'm the "best" (guild leader apparently thinks so) healer in the guild. /wrist |
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| 01:19.18 | Shirik | grr |
| 01:19.22 | Shirik | armory won't update my character again T_T |
| 01:19.24 | AnduinLothar | i'm a good healer. i hate it. |
| 01:19.29 | Cidan | Likely because you suck. |
| 01:19.34 | Cidan | It hates you. |
| 01:19.39 | Shirik | ouch |
| 01:19.46 | Shirik | Cidan, correct me if I'm wrong |
| 01:19.49 | Shirik | Healing hates you too |
| 01:19.55 | Cidan | Psh |
| 01:19.55 | |Jelly| | I have a 70 shaman and the other Kara group is all "you have healing gear?" /facepalmdeskwallkeyboard |
| 01:19.58 | Cidan | It loves me |
| 01:20.06 | Shirik | then why did you go prot again? |
| 01:23.19 | Cidan | I have no clue |
| 01:23.22 | Cidan | back to healing though |
| 01:24.31 | Shirik | imo you should come back to TG |
| 01:24.33 | Shirik | and heal for us |
| 01:26.06 | Cidan | Well, now that your leader quit, perhaps. |
| 01:26.12 | Cidan | Though I'm really sad Nellah is gone. |
| 01:26.26 | Shirik | yeah that was too bad |
| 01:26.29 | Shirik | but he really needed a break |
| 01:26.37 | Shirik | I could tell for a while; it's not like I didn't seei t coming |
| 01:27.22 | Kaydeethree | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=1531274854&sid=1 |
| 01:27.44 | Arrowmaster | |Jelly|: your in JAGD of course your the best healer in the guild, youd probably also be the best dps as shadow spec |
| 01:28.10 | |Jelly| | You sound like the retards on my realm forums. |
| 01:28.31 | Arrowmaster | i dont post on the realm forums |
| 01:28.40 | Cidan | lulz |
| 01:28.52 | Wobwork | omg |
| 01:28.55 | Arrowmaster | just hate most people on the realm because they suck |
| 01:28.57 | Wobwork | Kaydeethree: <3 <3 <3 |
| 01:28.59 | |Jelly| | You *sound* like |
| 01:29.03 | Wobwork | Squee! |
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| 01:29.05 | Cidan | when you set font, do you have to type out the entire font name and ext? |
| 01:29.20 | Kaydeethree | Wobwork, exactly... wtf!? |
| 01:29.45 | MentalPower | Cidan: yes |
| 01:29.58 | MentalPower | and all paths are from the root of the WoW folder |
| 01:29.58 | Cidan | wahoo |
| 01:29.59 | Cidan | there it is |
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| 01:30.03 | Cidan | Thanks, :D |
| 01:30.21 | Cidan | Okay, so nevermind then, I can just SetFont on a particular fontinstance |
| 01:30.28 | Cidan | along with font size |
| 01:30.33 | MentalPower | yesh |
| 01:30.34 | Cidan | it won't mess up everything else. |
| 01:30.46 | Cidan | Whew, okay, easy as pie then. |
| 01:34.29 | Shirik | night |Jelly|zZz |
| 01:35.13 | Cidan | nini |Jelly|zZz |
| 01:35.21 | Cidan | Shirik, I don't think TG would have me back either way |
| 01:35.32 | Shirik | I could probably work that out myself |
| 01:35.57 | Shirik | imho it was all a misunderstanding anyway |
| 01:36.49 | Cidan | No, no actually, when your guild leader calls your girlfriend a PMSing bitch in front of other officers on vent |
| 01:36.53 | Cidan | it's not really a misunderstanding. |
| 01:37.11 | Shirik | heh |
| 01:37.58 | Cidan | Ah well, que sera, sera! |
| 01:38.06 | Cidan | Almost done with neat font system we talked about before |
| 01:38.06 | Shirik | I think blood elves should be able to partially understand night elves |
| 01:38.14 | Shirik | like 10% of the words come through or something |
| 01:38.15 | Cidan | Eh, I can dig that |
| 01:38.33 | Shirik | Lore indicates that thalassian is derived from and very similar to darnassian |
| 01:39.30 | Thunder_Child | it makes sense that we would know other cultures languages...as a matter of fact if your at war with someone it's even more imperitive that you learn their language |
| 01:39.49 | Thunder_Child | blizz is just BS'ing for the sake of BS |
| 01:40.30 | orionshock_ | warcraft - lore = WoW ... |
| 01:43.21 | Cidan | orionshock_, ding. |
| 01:43.22 | Cidan | :D |
| 01:43.48 | art3mis | http://www.gothi.ca/Stuff/cyCircled-cross.jpg <-- new skin fixed the icon size |
| 01:44.01 | Cidan | pretty |
| 01:44.03 | art3mis | http://www.gothi.ca/Stuff/hre.jpg <-- new theme |
| 01:44.18 | Cidan | oh wow |
| 01:44.21 | orionshock_ | well it's true, come on, deathnights? the only way they can work that in Lore wise is if u turned up unfriendly with all core factions.. |
| 01:44.22 | Cidan | very nice. |
| 01:45.21 | art3mis | hre stands for holy roman empire ;) |
| 01:45.24 | art3mis | thanks |
| 01:45.34 | Kaydeethree | meh. they said the same thing about warlocks in stormwind |
| 01:45.40 | art3mis | just gonna go colourize all the elements n stuff and should be good for another |
| 01:46.42 | orionshock | true Kaydeethree , what the could do is make you "temp" neutral with SW IF you have a pet out; and this lasts till your exulted with SW ... but they'd never do that either |
| 01:50.08 | ScytheBlade1 | They could make you neutral with everything |
| 01:50.28 | ScytheBlade1 | If you're starting at a higher level, let's face it, current rep won't matter anywhere |
| 01:52.25 | FlAWD | 3RAM: Used: 661/5119MB |
| 01:53.13 | orionshock | FlAWD: wth do u need 5g worth of ram for? |
| 01:53.20 | orionshock | *5GB |
| 01:53.28 | art3mis | orionshock: why not ;P |
| 01:53.30 | FlAWD | that was a wrong chan post ... but i don't |
| 01:53.31 | FlAWD | heh |
| 01:53.44 | FlAWD | i have 4gb ram |
| 01:53.45 | art3mis | you can never have enough ram |
| 01:53.57 | Thunder_Child | i have 10.76 GB of combined ram |
| 01:54.02 | orionshock | corel - large video minipulation... a/v projects |
| 01:54.03 | Thunder_Child | both ram/swap |
| 01:54.04 | FlAWD | i just found an extra stick of 1GB so if figured why not throw it in |
| 01:54.11 | FlAWD | but i'm not running dual channel any more |
| 01:54.15 | art3mis | 2gb ramdisc set as yer inet cache/temp folder == fast inet browseing ;P |
| 01:54.25 | FlAWD | and i don't have a pagefile |
| 01:54.31 | orionshock | ok 5GB of ram is understandable; but the "normal" joe-smoe dosn't need any more than 2g or maybe 3g |
| 01:54.52 | FlAWD | well any 32 bit windows operating system can't address more than 3.5gb |
| 01:54.59 | FlAWD | so it's pointless for the average user |
| 01:55.02 | orionshock | ya that's the other side of it |
| 01:55.05 | FlAWD | 3Operating System: Windows 2003 Professional 5.2 SP2 (Build #3790) |
| 01:55.10 | FlAWD | * x64 |
| 01:55.11 | FlAWD | heh |
| 01:55.15 | orionshock | --tbh if i had the ram; i'd load all of wow into it :D |
| 01:55.25 | FlAWD | and it's actually windows XP x64 .. just "built on server technology" |
| 01:55.40 | FlAWD | i got wow on a 10k RPM drive .... it's hot :D |
| 01:55.47 | orionshock | think of it; wow running from a ram disk :D |
| 01:55.54 | FlAWD | yea that would be quite nic |
| 01:55.56 | FlAWD | nice |
| 01:56.08 | orionshock | you'd have to do it on a mac too :P |
| 01:56.17 | FlAWD | *cringe* |
| 01:56.53 | FlAWD | a friend of mine has a 15k RPM seagate drive in SCSI for his main drive |
| 01:56.58 | FlAWD | boots windows in about 3 seconds |
| 01:57.33 | orionshock | that's SCSI for ya; powerful as all get out; but expensive as hell |
| 01:57.50 | Kaydeethree | think what'd that be like if he raid-1'd two of those together |
| 01:57.52 | FlAWD | lol yea |
| 01:58.03 | FlAWD | raid0 i think you mean :) |
| 01:58.07 | FlAWD | raid1 is mirror |
| 01:58.23 | orionshock | r5 or nothing at all :P |
| 01:58.27 | Kaydeethree | ya. with a smart raid controller it'll pull from both drives at the same time |
| 01:58.37 | FlAWD | i like raid10 personally |
| 01:58.48 | FlAWD | or 01 |
| 01:59.35 | FlAWD | DoD:S time for me :) |
| 01:59.36 | FlAWD | cya |
| 01:59.40 | Arrowmaster | 01 is such a waste |
| 01:59.44 | Arrowmaster | 5 is better |
| 02:00.03 | MentalPower | 5 via hardware with battery backup :) |
| 02:00.16 | MentalPower | have the hardware compute the checksums too |
| 02:00.25 | JoshBorke | 5 is slower |
| 02:00.34 | MentalPower | but less wasteful |
| 02:00.35 | Arrowmaster | not with a good controller |
| 02:01.18 | Arrowmaster | if its a shitty controller thats not really a hardware controller and uses software drivers to do most of the work then yeah its slower |
| 02:01.29 | bleeter | one day soon, I should build a linux to load the kernel, video drivers and WoW all into RAM and forget the disk |
| 02:01.41 | orionshock | lol |
| 02:02.06 | orionshock | don't forget to put the ISO up somewhere ; it'd get the traffic :P |
| 02:02.14 | Kaydeethree | fastest WoW setup ever... you'd need 10+ gigs of ram, though |
| 02:02.42 | Arrowmaster | 10 gigs for just the ram drive |
| 02:03.49 | Cidan | Okay |
| 02:03.50 | JoshBorke | meh, don't need much more beyond that |
| 02:04.06 | JoshBorke | 16 GB is a good stopping point |
| 02:04.20 | art3mis | http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info7530-cyCircledIronCross.html woo |
| 02:04.22 | Cidan | Need some more free-as-in-beer AND free-as-in-speech fonts. |
| 02:04.45 | Arrowmaster | Cidan: bitstream |
| 02:04.53 | Arrowmaster | Cidan: bitstream vera i mean |
| 02:04.56 | orionshock | ok so wow is smaller than 10g... |
| 02:05.12 | Cidan | Arrowmaster, just added that to the SVN for Conspiracy. :P |
| 02:05.34 | bleeter | Cidan: you got https://www.redhat.com/promo/fonts/ ? |
| 02:05.45 | orionshock | sorta -- w/ patches and PTR client it's just over 9g |
| 02:05.52 | Arrowmaster | i think bitstream vera sans mono could be one of the best monospace fonts, if only the Ls werent fugly |
| 02:06.23 | Cidan | I put vera sans mono in |
| 02:06.31 | Cidan | it will be selectable for nearly any text item in Conspiracy |
| 02:07.17 | Cidan | Eh |
| 02:07.22 | Cidan | Liberation is meh |
| 02:07.43 | Cidan | I've also made it stupid easy to add your own fonts, or for modules to include fonts that the entire system can use. |
| 02:07.55 | Cidan | So I guess it's not a big issues. |
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| 02:10.41 | Cidan | Issue, even, whew. |
| 02:13.02 | Kaydeethree | oh about freaking time... "Escape from Orgrimmar" is finally done |
| 02:22.01 | bleeter | Cidan: http://scripts.sil.org/cms/scripts/page.php?site_id=nrsi&item_id=OFL_fonts |
| 02:25.51 | Cidan | oo |
| 02:25.52 | Cidan | purdy |
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| 02:42.32 | Valaron | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:43.28 | Valaron | Anyone has Prince of Persia Rival Swords on the Wii? |
| 02:45.04 | Valaron | I'm stuck at the first boss :( |
| 02:45.40 | Gngsk | don't cheat |
| 02:45.41 | Gngsk | that's no fun |
| 02:45.46 | Gngsk | keep trying until you figure it out |
| 02:45.49 | Valaron | I can't get the speed kill timing down correct. |
| 02:46.22 | Thunder_Child | Valaron http://www.gamefaqs.com/console/wii/game/934872.html |
| 02:46.26 | Valaron | No cheating.. just a little insight. |
| 02:47.11 | Valaron | Yeah.. I saw that.. just nothing about the Wiimote movements. |
| 02:53.45 | Guillotine | Valaron: You happen to have Mario Strikers Charged for the Wii? |
| 03:00.07 | Valaron | No.. No Strikers |
| 03:01.02 | Valaron | My next big game will be Galaxy |
| 03:01.29 | Kaydeethree | I think we're all waiting on galaxy and ssbb now that prime's out |
| 03:01.29 | Guillotine | boo. trying to find someone to play it with over the internet :( Only other person I know with it is in europe :/ |
| 03:02.00 | Valaron | I never was good at the Metroid games.. so I didn't get Prime. |
| 03:02.10 | Valaron | I might get SSBB |
| 03:02.23 | Kaydeethree | you ought to. controls are freaking amazing once you get over the learning curve |
| 03:02.25 | Valaron | Not into FPSes anyway. |
| 03:02.55 | Valaron | But.. I cannot figure out the first boss in PoP. That's frustrating. |
| 03:08.21 | Valaron | And Mario Kart Wii. I'll take you all on when it comes out :P |
| 03:09.09 | Guillotine | strikers is actually suprisingly good |
| 03:09.19 | Valaron | Yeah? |
| 03:09.29 | Valaron | Is it multiplayer on the same Wii? |
| 03:09.35 | Guillotine | especially if you have friends to play it with |
| 03:09.37 | Guillotine | yah, up to 4 people |
| 03:09.41 | Guillotine | on the same wii |
| 03:09.44 | Valaron | Hmm |
| 03:09.47 | Guillotine | and you can go 2v2 against people online |
| 03:09.56 | Valaron | My gf is hooked on Mario Party :P |
| 03:10.06 | Guillotine | haha |
| 03:10.15 | Valaron | It's cute and fun |
| 03:10.21 | Guillotine | my gf got tired of it after MP 8 :P |
| 03:10.41 | Guillotine | MP is almost as bad as FF in that respect |
| 03:10.48 | Valaron | FF? |
| 03:10.52 | Valaron | Final Fantasy? |
| 03:11.07 | Guillotine | ya |
| 03:11.12 | Valaron | Hmm.. |
| 03:11.31 | Valaron | I buy Nintendo for Zelda games.. my gf buys PSx for FF games. |
| 03:11.57 | Guillotine | I buy nintendo for super smash brothers :P |
| 03:12.05 | Guillotine | though I actually got my N64 for gauntlet |
| 03:12.07 | Guillotine | good game |
| 03:12.11 | Guillotine | for its time at least |
| 03:12.28 | JoshBorke | nn all |
| 03:12.34 | Valaron | Maybe it'll come out on the Virtual Console. |
| 03:12.50 | Guillotine | I still have my N64 >.> |
| 03:12.58 | Valaron | Me too |
| 03:13.02 | Guillotine | and the gamecube gauntlet isn't bad either |
| 03:13.09 | Guillotine | though I havn't played it in forever |
| 03:13.10 | Valaron | It hasn't been hooked up in years. |
| 03:13.22 | Guillotine | Valaron: does the CD slot on your wii ever glow blue like all night? |
| 03:13.34 | Valaron | Continuous? Or blinking? |
| 03:13.39 | Guillotine | I'm not sure if mine is supposed to be doing that o.O |
| 03:13.40 | Guillotine | continuous |
| 03:14.04 | Valaron | Continuous means reading CD, fading/blinking means you have a message |
| 03:15.44 | Valaron | It's not suppose to be doing that.. especially if it's off. |
| 03:15.53 | Guillotine | and theres no cd in there :/ |
| 03:16.06 | Guillotine | oh, I wonder if it has to do with the fact I havn't set it up with the wireless here yet |
| 03:16.19 | Valaron | No.. |
| 03:16.23 | Valaron | It shouldn't. |
| 03:16.41 | Guillotine | wierd. I just turned on the tv (not even the wii) and it started pulsing |
| 03:16.50 | Guillotine | I wonder if I have too many things plugged into the socket o.O |
| 03:16.59 | Valaron | Possible |
| 03:19.28 | Valaron | Hmm.. You have MP3:C? |
| 03:20.39 | Valaron | Have you done a Wii update? |
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| 03:24.50 | Guillotine | Valaron: yah, its been updated |
| 03:24.56 | Valaron | Hmm |
| 03:25.23 | Valaron | I'd make sure all your messages have been read. |
| 03:25.28 | Valaron | Just in case |
| 03:26.32 | Guillotine | hmm, no, there was one unread message |
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| 03:30.15 | MentalPower | gnight all |
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| 03:41.17 | art3mis | oh my god |
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| 03:41.24 | art3mis | if anyone hasnt seen shootem up go see it |
| 03:41.34 | art3mis | a an action flick it rules! |
| 03:41.41 | Tierrie | i watched it |
| 03:41.44 | Tierrie | it was insanely funny |
| 03:41.49 | Tierrie | i laughed like, through the entire show |
| 03:42.10 | Tierrie | blam blam blam carrots blam blam carrots wassup doc blam blam |
| 03:42.29 | art3mis | hah yeah |
| 03:42.41 | art3mis | and monica bellucci |
| 03:42.46 | art3mis | thats really all a movie needs |
| 03:42.57 | Tierrie | i loved the fucking killing scene |
| 03:42.59 | art3mis | her and mostly non stop action with very little talking |
| 03:43.35 | ScytheBlade1 | !rating 1908 |
| 03:43.35 | Xinhuan | 1908 rating will give 905(5s), 724(3s) and 633(2s) arena points. (Use !points for inverse calc) |
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| 03:44.54 | Tierrie | the carrots were definitely a plus :) |
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| 03:45.11 | Tierrie | stabbings everyewhere |
| 03:46.08 | art3mis | hehe yeah |
| 03:46.24 | art3mis | i almost choked on my pop when he stabbed that guy in the eye |
| 03:46.36 | Tierrie | i laughed when that happened |
| 03:47.07 | Tierrie | i liked the scene where he threw a carrot, everyone shot it up, and he pops up and kills one of the guys -- everyone's like "wtf" |
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| 03:56.13 | Esamynn | omg, it's a Cairenn |
| 03:56.19 | Esamynn | wb |
| 03:56.29 | Shirik | she was always here |
| 03:56.37 | Cairenn | hi |
| 03:56.37 | Shirik | she just was in invisi-cairenn mode |
| 03:57.16 | Tierrie | shes a bit like god? |
| 03:57.22 | Tierrie | watching you all the time |
| 03:57.31 | Tierrie | even while you think you're alone on the loo |
| 03:57.33 | Tierrie | god's watching |
| 03:58.04 | Cairenn | I don't watch while people are on the loo - I'm not into that, thanks |
| 04:00.29 | Thunder_Child | somehow i dont belive you |
| 04:06.46 | Cidan | Cairenn, you speak! |
| 04:06.47 | Cidan | :D |
| 04:07.01 | Cairenn | I do?! eeep! |
| 04:07.08 | Cidan | D: |
| 04:08.38 | Cairenn | I've been (and continue to) house-sitting for my folks since mid last week through to the end of this coming week, so splitting my time between the two houses, so not actually ending up spending much time in front of the computer right now |
| 04:09.10 | Cidan | Ah |
| 04:10.25 | Shirik | old, but someone just linked this to me |
| 04:10.27 | Shirik | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fb5LIo6HE6Y |
| 04:10.30 | Cidan | Well, not so bad. |
| 04:10.30 | Shirik | very well done |
| 04:10.51 | ScytheBlade1 | !points 1439 |
| 04:10.51 | Xinhuan | You cannot get more than 1426 arena points per week (5v5 points cap). |
| 04:10.57 | ScytheBlade1 | !rating 1439 |
| 04:10.57 | Xinhuan | 1439 rating will give 353(5s), 282(3s) and 247(2s) arena points. (Use !points for inverse calc) |
| 04:11.21 | Cidan | Sorry |
| 04:11.25 | Cidan | Can't stand that song |
| 04:11.30 | Cidan | It's pure crap. |
| 04:11.55 | Cairenn | I've seen it before, I like it, I thought it was really well done (whether you like the song or not, they make the video fit it very nicely) |
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| 05:12.07 | Shirik | wow |
| 05:12.13 | Shirik | we just had a draw in arena... |
| 05:12.17 | Shirik | didn't even know that could happen |
| 05:14.11 | Wobwork | how does that work? |
| 05:15.15 | Shirik | we all died |
| 05:15.22 | Shirik | still not quite sure how |
| 05:15.23 | Shirik | but we did |
| 05:16.04 | Wobwork | The Plague |
| 05:30.02 | Tierrie | haha |
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| 05:33.15 | Shirik | I should have SS'ed it :( |
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| 05:43.39 | Shirik | !ap 1574 |
| 05:43.40 | ThraeBot | Shirik: Arena points from a rating of 1574 is, 2v2: 322, 3v3: 368, 5v5: 460 |
| 05:44.49 | Thunder_Child | !ap 100000000000000000 |
| 05:44.49 | ThraeBot | Thunder_Child: Arena points from a rating of -2147483648 is, 2v2: 998, 3v3: 1141, 5v5: 1426 |
| 05:45.15 | Shirik | lol |
| 05:45.16 | Shirik | overflow error |
| 05:47.05 | Thunder_Child | just a tad maybe |
| 05:48.05 | Shirik | damn we're doing well today |
| 05:48.11 | Shirik | 901 |
| 05:48.12 | Shirik | 9-1 |
| 05:48.14 | Shirik | (and the one draw) |
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| 05:53.05 | Shirik | !ap 1579 |
| 05:53.05 | ThraeBot | Shirik: Arena points from a rating of 1579 is, 2v2: 326, 3v3: 373, 5v5: 466 |
| 05:54.30 | art3mis | yawn |
| 05:54.36 | |Jelly| | Agree. |
| 05:54.37 | Shirik | Hai |Jelly| |
| 05:54.42 | |Jelly| | Hey Shirik! |
| 05:54.57 | art3mis | <-- cycircled fiend |
| 05:55.07 | |Jelly| | <3 Vol |
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| 05:55.07 | art3mis | i wish i didnt suck at graphics though |
| 05:55.23 | art3mis | http://www.gothi.ca/Stuff/cyCircled-cross.jpg |
| 05:55.31 | art3mis | thats my new one ;P |
| 05:55.44 | |Jelly| | Eh. |
| 05:56.01 | |Jelly| | Never been a fan of the iron cross design in things but it looks pretty good all the same. |
| 05:56.01 | art3mis | made that today |
| 05:56.12 | art3mis | http://www.gothi.ca/Stuff/hre.jpg |
| 05:56.18 | art3mis | thas the ui it goes with |
| 05:56.36 | art3mis | i need to waste some time and make the eagle cleaner |
| 05:56.43 | |Jelly| | lol |
| 05:57.01 | art3mis | ;) |
| 05:57.10 | art3mis | i like how that turned out, the layout n stuff |
| 05:57.25 | |Jelly| | Better than pink HKIA. |
| 05:57.29 | art3mis | heh |
| 05:57.43 | art3mis | yet if you interpret german instwead of roman much more evil ;P |
| 05:58.13 | |Jelly| | That's how I saw it at first but didn't say anything cause I didn't honestly think someone would make a UI devoted to the nazis. lol |
| 05:58.20 | art3mis | heh |
| 05:58.26 | |Jelly| | ...glad I'm right. :P |
| 05:58.34 | |Jelly| | Hey Shirik. How are things? |
| 05:58.42 | art3mis | watched the last legion before i made it |
| 05:58.42 | Shirik | We're now 10-2 today in arena |
| 05:58.48 | art3mis | which is pretty good btw |
| 05:58.49 | Shirik | damn druid warlock team |
| 05:58.51 | Tierrie | is there such a thing as a bored as fuck song? |
| 05:58.53 | Shirik | we were 9-1 |
| 05:58.57 | Shirik | oh and we got a draw |
| 05:58.58 | Tierrie | i am thinking of making up a such a song |
| 05:59.02 | art3mis | tierrie: the doom song |
| 05:59.16 | |Jelly| | Liam Lynch - I'm So Happy |
| 05:59.16 | art3mis | I'm bored by death angel too ;P |
| 05:59.28 | Shirik | Tierrie: Because I got High - Afroman |
| 05:59.42 | Tierrie | wish i had that song |
| 05:59.43 | Tierrie | it rocks |
| 06:00.20 | Tierrie | something happened to my cable connection, the physical cable has lots of noise on it, as a result my packet loss is immensely high and therefore my bandwidth is insanely low |
| 06:00.30 | Tierrie | according to my calculations its < 22kbps |
| 06:00.46 | Tierrie | so i have just enough internet to bitch |
| 06:00.55 | Tierrie | and not enough to do anything else |
| 06:01.03 | art3mis | youll get a mailer tomorrow about a new "service" the cable company offers to speed you your connection for only 19.95 a month ;P |
| 06:01.11 | Tierrie | i think we've already upgraded a few times |
| 06:01.31 | art3mis | and all it will really do is remove the filter they put on it to fuck up yur connection currently |
| 06:01.52 | Tierrie | the worst part is, i had a new tv-in card this week so i could watch tv on my computer, but i wanted another model so i sent in back, in the process i took apart my current cable->monitor set up :( |
| 06:02.03 | art3mis | oh jelly when you hove over the crosses too the white turns red ;P |
| 06:02.05 | Tierrie | long story for "fuck i am bored" |
| 06:03.51 | Shirik | lua> 326 + 90 |
| 06:03.53 | cladbot | Shirik: 416 |
| 06:03.55 | |Jelly| | ;p; |
| 06:03.56 | Shirik | !ar 419 |
| 06:03.56 | ThraeBot | Shirik: Arena rating from 419 points is, 2v2: 1682, 3v3: 1625, 5v5: 1539 |
| 06:03.58 | |Jelly| | lol too |
| 06:04.01 | Tierrie | haha vista comes with its own "Sample Music" and its an electic selection of crap |
| 06:04.29 | Shirik | !ar 416 |
| 06:04.30 | ThraeBot | Shirik: Arena rating from 416 points is, 2v2: 1679, 3v3: 1622, 5v5: 1536 |
| 06:05.13 | Thunder_Child | hmm...i nees a new series to watch |
| 06:05.16 | Thunder_Child | need* |
| 06:05.33 | Tierrie | californication |
| 06:05.53 | Thunder_Child | preferably more than 1 season long |
| 06:05.59 | Tierrie | i think it will last |
| 06:06.04 | Tierrie | unless its in fox |
| 06:06.09 | Tierrie | in which case it will get cancelled |
| 06:06.14 | Thunder_Child | no..i mean out already |
| 06:06.19 | Tierrie | battlestar galactica? |
| 06:06.27 | Tierrie | coupling? |
| 06:06.43 | Tierrie | extras, futurama |
| 06:06.47 | Thunder_Child | didnt like the way bg was done...and let me research coupling |
| 06:06.53 | Thunder_Child | have all of futureama |
| 06:07.01 | Thunder_Child | futurama* |
| 06:07.10 | Tierrie | firefly, serenity |
| 06:07.21 | Thunder_Child | love those..have them all |
| 06:07.37 | Tierrie | milf season 3 |
| 06:07.41 | Tierrie | jk jk |
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| 06:07.52 | Thunder_Child | i bet you werent |
| 06:07.56 | Tierrie | :( |
| 06:08.17 | Tierrie | dead like me was good in season 1 |
| 06:08.21 | Tierrie | then it turned into absolute crap |
| 06:09.18 | Thunder_Child | californication looks good but it's only at ep 4/5...not long enough |
| 06:09.32 | Thunder_Child | coupling is a now |
| 06:09.34 | Thunder_Child | no* |
| 06:10.31 | Tierrie | why not? |
| 06:10.31 | Thunder_Child | and how is it that extras only has 6 show seasons? |
| 06:10.38 | Tierrie | its english |
| 06:10.40 | Tierrie | so is coupling |
| 06:10.53 | Tierrie | coupling is probably the best comedy i've watched |
| 06:10.56 | Tierrie | ever |
| 06:10.56 | Thunder_Child | uhhh...dont need a show devoted to sex |
| 06:11.00 | Tierrie | its not about sex |
| 06:11.07 | Tierrie | in fact, there's no nudity |
| 06:11.14 | Tierrie | ok wait |
| 06:11.14 | Tierrie | it is about sex |
| 06:11.17 | Tierrie | but there's no nudity |
| 06:11.21 | Tierrie | its just a bunch of friends, hanging out at bars |
| 06:11.25 | Thunder_Child | i know |
| 06:11.29 | Thunder_Child | i read |
| 06:11.33 | Thunder_Child | didnt interest me |
| 06:11.37 | Tierrie | its really really funny |
| 06:12.21 | Wobwork | The Chaser's War On Everything |
| 06:13.14 | Thunder_Child | australian show i see |
| 06:13.14 | Tierrie | frankly my fav series are like -> comedy: coupling, scifi: firefly, cartoon:futurama |
| 06:13.36 | Thunder_Child | firefly isnt even being made anymore |
| 06:13.45 | Tierrie | shut your face! |
| 06:13.47 | Thunder_Child | not much of a series |
| 06:14.13 | Thunder_Child | /sigh |
| 06:14.17 | JunkHead-Work | I quit watching tv for the most part. |
| 06:14.29 | Thunder_Child | i dont watch it at all....i just download shows |
| 06:14.32 | JunkHead-Work | the few shows I do watch aren'r doing new episodes currently. |
| 06:14.55 | JunkHead-Work | Well that's what i did. Download shows. |
| 06:15.07 | JunkHead-Work | But I only ever watched 3 different shows.:P |
| 06:15.21 | JunkHead-Work | Now I don't watch them since they are between seasons. |
| 06:15.24 | Thunder_Child | i have quite a list going atm |
| 06:15.47 | art3mis | meadowlands is pretty awesome |
| 06:15.54 | JunkHead-Work | I watched The New Adventures of Old Christine, Mythbusters, and masters of horror. |
| 06:15.55 | JunkHead-Work | That's it. |
| 06:15.56 | art3mis | dexter starts soon |
| 06:16.21 | JunkHead-Work | And right after masters of horror season 2 started, i started downloading them but never watch them all. |
| 06:16.23 | art3mis | masters of horror wasnt as good as i had hoped |
| 06:16.33 | Shirik | !ap 1579 |
| 06:16.33 | ThraeBot | Shirik: Arena points from a rating of 1579 is, 2v2: 326, 3v3: 373, 5v5: 466 |
| 06:16.51 | Shirik | lua> 890+326 |
| 06:16.53 | cladbot | Shirik: 1216 |
| 06:18.00 | Thunder_Child | anyone have an opinion on the 4400? |
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| 06:18.25 | Tierrie | its so so |
| 06:18.27 | Tierrie | i hear |
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| 06:34.37 | Thunder_Child | the game "no one lives forever" was that a spoof on "The girl from U.N.C.L.E."? |
| 06:36.48 | Rallion | it wa a spoof on a lot of things |
| 06:36.59 | Rallion | and it was actually very very good |
| 06:37.12 | Thunder_Child | it was...but it seems to me the was that basis |
| 06:37.22 | Rallion | i'm not sure, but it sounds right |
| 06:37.25 | Thunder_Child | http://epguides.com/GirlfromUNCLE/cast.jpg |
| 06:37.25 | Mr_Rabies2 | KALIMAAAAAAAAG |
| 06:37.31 | Thunder_Child | that feels alot like it |
| 06:42.21 | Wobwork | RETH RETH RETH |
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| 06:50.41 | art3mis | i'd rather have emma peel ;P |
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| 06:57.44 | |Jelly|Laptop | Backing up stuff is sooo ZzzZzzZZzzZzzz |
| 07:03.25 | Shirik | I know what can break up the bordem |
| 07:03.35 | |Jelly|Laptop | What's that? |
| 07:03.51 | Shirik | whoops |
| 07:03.52 | Shirik | just a sec |
| 07:05.25 | Wobwork | Inserting random garbage bytes into the backup |
| 07:05.31 | Wobwork | for the lulz |
| 07:07.29 | Shirik | !vs us drenden kimina us burning legion jelly |
| 07:07.29 | ThraeBot | Shirik: kimina vs jelly! It's a showdown! But wait! What's this?! Something random? kimina's Mom calls him, interrupting the duel -- it's time for kindergarden! Forfeit! |
| 07:07.33 | Shirik | !vs us drenden kimina us burning legion jelly |
| 07:07.37 | ThraeBot | Shirik: Kimina vs Jelly! Two 70 priests square off!; Kimina wins by 311 TBRs! |
| 07:07.43 | Shirik | muahaha |
| 07:07.48 | Shirik | !c us drenden kimina |
| 07:07.48 | ThraeBot | Shirik: Kimina, Level 70 Blood Elf Priest (23/38/0). 6861 HP; 8580 Mana; 421 mana regen; 128 mp5; 26 spell crit; 270 +spell dmg; 1597 +heal; 5.06% dodge;[[ TBR: 861 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/2fx6zd ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/2pkb3p ][ Updated: Mon Sep 10 03:19:47 2007 ]] |
| 07:07.55 | Shirik | check out those stats |Jelly|Laptop |
| 07:08.23 | Shirik | I think that counts as cheating though |
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| 07:09.48 | |Jelly|Laptop | Shirik.. |
| 07:09.53 | |Jelly|Laptop | GRRRRRRRRR |
| 07:09.58 | Shirik | 1597 +healing! |
| 07:10.05 | Shirik | Last time we compared, I was at about 1000 |
| 07:10.12 | |Jelly|Laptop | !c us burning legion jelly |
| 07:10.13 | ThraeBot | |Jelly|Laptop: Jelly, Level 70 Blood Elf Priest (23/38/0). 6821 HP; 10005 Mana; 343 mana regen; 125 mp5; 90 +spell dmg; 1539 +heal; 5.06% dodge;[[ TBR: 550 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/yrmc88 ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/2mw2d7 ][ Updated: Mon Sep 10 03:19:49 2007 ]] |
| 07:10.20 | |Jelly|Laptop | i see that all the time <3 |
| 07:10.25 | Shirik | =( |
| 07:10.32 | Shirik | I had to pop my trinkets and log out to match that |
| 07:10.40 | |Jelly|Laptop | rofl |
| 07:11.22 | |Jelly|Laptop | At the rate we're going, you'll pass me. :( |
| 07:11.31 | |Jelly|Laptop | That and I'm too lazy to make my Mooncloth. |
| 07:11.43 | Shirik | In a few days I should have the mooncloth shoulders :) |
| 07:11.44 | |Jelly|Laptop | But I don't know if I want 4/5 T4 or Mooncloth either. :\ |
| 07:12.02 | Shirik | Yeah I'm really close to T4 as well |
| 07:12.02 | Mentrobit | Out of the blue question, but does anyone have a clue how can I set my laptop user account that set to a certain domain to be the same when I'm not connected to the network ? |
| 07:12.03 | |Jelly|Laptop | I have everything but the robe and am 371 tailor. |
| 07:12.07 | Shirik | but I'm making it for the hell of it |
| 07:14.03 | |Jelly|Laptop | We can't seem to down Mag anymore so I guess my Mooncloth is my only option. :( |
| 07:17.25 | Shirik | akjawpejgwapk |
| 07:17.27 | Shirik | auctioneer bugs ftl |
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| 07:17.49 | Shirik | I got an item stuck to my cursor :( |
| 07:18.52 | |Jelly|Laptop | lol |
| 07:18.57 | |Jelly|Laptop | owned |
| 07:19.11 | |Jelly|Laptop | !vs us drenden kimina us burning legion jelly |
| 07:19.12 | ThraeBot | |Jelly|Laptop: Kimina vs Jelly! Two 70 priests square off!; Kimina wins by 311 TBRs! |
| 07:19.22 | |Jelly|Laptop | I BET YOU CAN'T DO THAT WITH AN ITEM ON YOUR CURSOR!!! |
| 07:19.36 | Shirik | I bet I could |
| 07:19.41 | Shirik | I'm just that far off the charts |
| 07:19.49 | |Jelly|Laptop | I bet. STFU HAX! |
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| 07:21.51 | Shirik | ok |Jelly|Laptop |
| 07:21.56 | Shirik | you want to try against my real stats? |
| 07:22.10 | |Jelly|Laptop | No. Meanyface. |
| 07:22.17 | Shirik | well I'm going to make you fight anyway |
| 07:22.33 | |Jelly|Laptop | :( |
| 07:23.15 | |Jelly|Laptop | !vs us burning legion klot us drenden kimina |
| 07:23.18 | ThraeBot | |Jelly|Laptop: Klot vs Kimina! A L70 shaman and a L70 priest square off!; 41/0/20 vs 23/38/0; Kimina wins by 244 TBRs! |
| 07:23.23 | |Jelly|Laptop | :( |
| 07:23.31 | Shirik | (still buffed stats though) |
| 07:25.27 | |Jelly|Laptop | !vs us burning legion claerion us drenden kimina |
| 07:25.30 | ThraeBot | |Jelly|Laptop: Claerion vs Kimina! Two 70 priests square off!; 20/41/0 vs 23/38/0; Kimina wins by 301 TBRs! |
| 07:25.39 | |Jelly|Laptop | ...I don't believe it |
| 07:25.47 | |Jelly|Laptop | !c us burning legion claerion |
| 07:25.48 | ThraeBot | |Jelly|Laptop: Claerion, Level 70 Undead Priest (20/41/0). 8031 HP; 10035 Mana; 457 mana regen; 230 mp5; 101 +spell dmg; 2014 +heal; 4.9% dodge; 10 shadow resist (+10);[[ TBR: 561 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/2cgoqu ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/348oep ][ Updated: Mon Sep 10 03:37:41 2007 ]] |
| 07:26.15 | |Jelly|Laptop | ThraeBot is flawed!!! |
| 07:26.18 | Shirik | ok, this is real stats |
| 07:26.31 | Shirik | !vs us burning legion jelly us drenden kimina |
| 07:26.34 | ThraeBot | Shirik: Jelly vs Kimina! Two 70 priests square off!; Kimina wins by 592 TBRs! ***OWNED!*** |
| 07:26.37 | Shirik | wow. |
| 07:26.38 | Shirik | wtf? |
| 07:26.41 | |Jelly|Laptop | nowai |
| 07:26.57 | Shirik | All that changed is my trinkets weren't active... |
| 07:27.23 | Shirik | which means I have about 120 less damage and 400 less healing... |
| 07:27.30 | Shirik | !c us drenden kimina |
| 07:27.31 | ThraeBot | Shirik: Kimina, Level 70 Blood Elf Priest (23/38/0). 6861 HP; 8580 Mana; 421 mana regen; 128 mp5; 26 spell crit; 150 +spell dmg; 1139 +heal; 5.06% dodge;[[ TBR: 1142 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/2fx6zd ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/2pkb3p ][ Updated: Mon Sep 10 03:38:46 2007 ]] |
| 07:27.44 | |Jelly|Laptop | And ThraeBot, being flawed, still has you beating me. |
| 07:27.44 | Shirik | 14(0311:0611:4514) 14(11158ThraeBot14) Shirik: Kimina, Level 70 Blood Elf Priest (23/38/0). 6861 HP; 8580 Mana; 421 mana regen; 128 mp5; 26 spell crit; 270 +spell dmg; 1597 +heal; 5.06% dodge;[[ TBR: 861 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/2fx6zd ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/2pkb3p ][ Updated: Mon Sep 10 03:19:47 2007 ]] |
| 07:27.49 | |Jelly|Laptop | !c us burning legion jelly |
| 07:27.50 | ThraeBot | |Jelly|Laptop: Jelly, Level 70 Blood Elf Priest (23/38/0). 6821 HP; 10005 Mana; 343 mana regen; 125 mp5; 90 +spell dmg; 1539 +heal; 5.06% dodge;[[ TBR: 550 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/yrmc88 ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/2mw2d7 ][ Updated: Mon Sep 10 03:19:49 2007 ]] |
| 07:27.59 | Shirik | something has to be backwards |
| 07:28.05 | Shirik | look at those stats |
| 07:28.32 | Shirik | I'll save that to show Thrae later |
| 07:28.36 | |Jelly|Laptop | Is it based off offensive abilities? |
| 07:28.51 | |Jelly|Laptop | ...I really have no idea how it gets it's TBR. :\ |
| 07:28.56 | Shirik | ~botmail for Thrae I found some really interesting data which is proving a flaw in your algorithm. Something's backwards. Send me a tell whenever you're around |
| 07:29.21 | Shirik | It's a formula made by Thrae, nothing more |
| 07:29.25 | Shirik | a rather complex one at that |
| 07:29.31 | Shirik | but obviously not perfect |
| 07:29.47 | |Jelly|Laptop | So, hidden in his formula, it says Kimina beats Jelly regardless. HAX! |
| 07:30.01 | Kalroth | Working as intended. |
| 07:30.43 | |Jelly|Laptop | Working as HAXED by Shirik! |
| 07:31.42 | Thunder_Child | !vs us drenden kimina us draenor prismatic |
| 07:31.45 | ThraeBot | Thunder_Child: Kimina vs Prismatic! Two 70 priests square off!; 23/38/0 vs 34/27/0; Kimina wins by 143 TBRs! |
| 07:31.59 | Thunder_Child | hmmm |
| 07:32.17 | |Jelly|Laptop | One day, you'll believe me. |
| 07:32.32 | Thunder_Child | !c us draenor prismatic |
| 07:32.35 | ThraeBot | Thunder_Child: Prismatic, Level 70 Night Elf Priest (34/27/0). 7011 HP; 9999 Mana; 203 mana regen; 30 mp5; 251 spell crit; 40 spell hit; 728 +spell dmg/heal; 6.18% dodge; 10 nature resist (+10);[[ TBR: 1000 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/ys3a4x ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/34hsbf ][ Updated: Mon Sep 10 03:44:46 2007 ]] |
| 07:33.08 | Thunder_Child | hmm..i wonder where you get that 143 more TBR than me |
| 07:33.17 | Shirik | my name is Kimina |
| 07:33.29 | Shirik | but more seriously, I seriously think something is backwards |
| 07:33.38 | Shirik | there's no other explanation for my trinkets causing a DROP in TBR |
| 07:33.48 | Thunder_Child | your name is Shirik |
| 07:33.58 | |Jelly|Laptop | I wish I had two Raptors. :( |
| 07:33.59 | Shirik | !vs us drenden kimina us eredar shirik |
| 07:34.02 | ThraeBot | Shirik: Kimina vs Shirik! A L70 priest and a L70 hunter square off!; 23/38/0 vs 3/50/8; Shirik wins by 469 TBRs! |
| 07:34.04 | Thunder_Child | you think you would at least know that |
| 07:34.05 | Shirik | wow |
| 07:34.10 | Shirik | wow. |
| 07:34.21 | |Jelly|Laptop | !vs us burning legion jelly us eredar shirik |
| 07:34.22 | ThraeBot | |Jelly|Laptop: Jelly vs Shirik! A L70 priest and a L70 hunter square off!; 23/38/0 vs 3/50/8; Shirik wins by 1061 TBRs! ***OWNED TO THE EXTREME!!*** |
| 07:34.25 | Shirik | ahahahahaha |
| 07:34.30 | |Jelly|Laptop | <PROTECTED> |
| 07:34.52 | Shirik | |Jelly|Laptop |
| 07:34.55 | Shirik | if it makes you feel any better |
| 07:35.09 | Shirik | Kimina is so much further in progression than Shirik it's not even funny |
| 07:35.22 | Kalroth | !vs eu stormrage kalroth us eredar shirik |
| 07:35.24 | ThraeBot | Kalroth: Kalroth vs Shirik! A L70 warrior and a L70 hunter square off!; 17/44/0 vs 3/50/8; Shirik wins by 662 TBRs! ***OWNED!*** |
| 07:35.26 | |Jelly|Laptop | Doesn't make me feel any better. |
| 07:35.27 | Thunder_Child | hunters can tear apart priests though |
| 07:35.29 | Kalroth | wth |
| 07:35.38 | Kalroth | Like hell a huntard would ever win! |
| 07:35.39 | Shirik | oh please |
| 07:35.42 | Shirik | I can kill any warrior |
| 07:35.46 | Shirik | they're a piece of cake |
| 07:35.54 | Thunder_Child | ya, but not a hunter |
| 07:35.56 | Shirik | warriors and rogues, easy |
| 07:36.05 | Shirik | hunter vs hunter is /roll 100 |
| 07:36.06 | |Jelly|Laptop | !vs us burning legion smitey us burning legion jelly |
| 07:36.06 | ThraeBot | |Jelly|Laptop: smitey vs jelly! It's a showdown! But wait! What's this?! Something random? jelly is really a keyboard turner, and his opponent simply walks off after it takes jelly 5 minutes to face the right direction. Forfeit! |
| 07:36.15 | Kalroth | You'll cry "hamstring, get it off me, get it ooooff meee" faster than you can FD! |
| 07:36.19 | |Jelly|Laptop | !vs us burning legion smitey us burning legion jelly |
| 07:36.22 | ThraeBot | |Jelly|Laptop: Smitey vs Jelly! A L70 hunter and a L70 priest square off!; 3/41/17 vs 23/38/0; Smitey wins by 517 TBRs! ***OWNED!*** |
| 07:36.27 | Shirik | hamstring is crap |
| 07:36.35 | |Jelly|Laptop | What a load of crap! |
| 07:36.35 | Kalroth | QQ moar! |
| 07:36.36 | Shirik | you have one trinket, so do I |
| 07:36.44 | amro|sleep | does pally vs pally put the bot in an infinite loop? |
| 07:36.45 | Shirik | I trap, you hamstring |
| 07:36.54 | |Jelly|Laptop | !vs us burning legion klot us burning legion katillac |
| 07:36.54 | Shirik | Now what? You hamstring, I trap again |
| 07:36.57 | ThraeBot | |Jelly|Laptop: Klot vs Katillac! A L70 shaman and a L70 warlock square off!; 41/0/20 vs 42/0/19; Katillac wins by 602 TBRs! ***OWNED!*** |
| 07:37.02 | Shirik | I wait it off, blow you to pieces |
| 07:37.04 | Wobwork | It's an endless cycle |
| 07:37.07 | Shirik | you hamstring again? Scatter shot, trap |
| 07:37.09 | |Jelly|Laptop | Too bad I've never lost to her! |
| 07:37.11 | |Jelly|Laptop | EVER! |
| 07:37.15 | Shirik | It's easy to deal with |
| 07:37.18 | Shirik | hunters just don't know how to play |
| 07:37.19 | Kalroth | Shirik: What's the cooldown on your traps? |
| 07:37.26 | Shirik | it's the #1 reason I quit playing my hunter |
| 07:37.27 | amro | Shirik: too true |
| 07:37.36 | Shirik | Is because I get lumped in with all the other idiots that don't know how to play |
| 07:37.36 | amro | too many hunters just suck |
| 07:37.37 | Wobwork | 24 seconds? |
| 07:37.44 | Wobwork | unless he has the BL bonus |
| 07:37.51 | Wobwork | or is that -with- the BL bonus |
| 07:37.53 | amro | 30 seconds |
| 07:37.53 | Shirik | 30 actually, but I have a lot of tools at my disposal |
| 07:38.04 | Shirik | trust me, I can wait it out |
| 07:38.04 | Kalroth | So how are you going to keep me trapped? |
| 07:38.09 | Shirik | trap is a general term |
| 07:38.17 | Wobwork | imp wingclip works too =) |
| 07:38.19 | Shirik | I have scatter shot, imp wing clip, frost trap |
| 07:38.37 | amro | I just kite while my pet tears melee to pieces |
| 07:38.47 | Wobwork | Same. |
| 07:38.49 | Wobwork | BRK ftw |
| 07:39.06 | Wobwork | "Sorry, you can't fear him. He's a bit tetchy atm" |
| 07:39.09 | Kalroth | aoe taunt on pet before frost trap, trinket wing clip, intercept after scatter :) |
| 07:39.18 | Shirik | taunt? |
| 07:39.26 | Shirik | I would never lay a frost trap that early |
| 07:39.36 | Shirik | frost trap is my counter to intercept |
| 07:39.44 | Kalroth | uhm, order is irrelevant :) |
| 07:39.45 | Shirik | and it's actually freezing trap |
| 07:39.49 | Shirik | no it's not |
| 07:39.56 | Kalroth | I meant in my line |
| 07:40.01 | Kalroth | I don't care how you do it :) |
| 07:40.04 | Shirik | the only time I should ever let you intercept is when I'm letting you go right into my trap |
| 07:40.16 | Shirik | and it works almost every time. Only time it doesn't work is on this one damn druid that's dueled me too many times |
| 07:40.20 | Shirik | he doesn't fall for it anymore |
| 07:40.22 | Kalroth | Shirik: Which I wouldn't do unless I'm sure the pet sticks on me |
| 07:40.31 | Shirik | instead he just pops out and moonfires me |
| 07:40.32 | amro | it's possible to kite a warrior outside intercept's range |
| 07:40.38 | amro | and just watch them cry |
| 07:40.43 | amro | depends on the terrain though |
| 07:40.52 | Wobwork | what is intercept range anyway? |
| 07:40.53 | Mentrobit | Try kiting a warrior inside the Arena :) |
| 07:41.03 | Shirik | seriously though, time for sleeps |
| 07:41.05 | Kalroth | 8-25 I think |
| 07:41.06 | Shirik | night |
| 07:41.14 | |Jelly|Laptop | Night |
| 07:41.41 | Shirik|zZz | C:\Users\mpdelbuono>telnet irc.freenode.net 6667 |
| 07:41.41 | Shirik|zZz | 'telnet' is not recognized as an internal or external command, |
| 07:41.41 | Shirik|zZz | operable program or batch file. |
| 07:41.43 | Shirik|zZz | wtf |
| 07:41.47 | Shirik|zZz | they took out telnet? |
| 07:41.48 | Shirik|zZz | Are you serious? |
| 07:41.53 | amro | rofl |
| 07:42.02 | amro | vista sucks ;P |
| 07:42.11 | Mentrobit | truely :D |
| 07:42.17 | Wobwork | rofl |
| 07:42.20 | Wobwork | FAIL |
| 07:42.36 | Wobwork | "Why are you trying to leave? I'm sorry Dave, I can't do that..." |
| 07:42.36 | Kalroth | Just download Putty! |
| 07:42.39 | *** join/#wowi-lounge Shirik (i=skullsho@27.123.33.65.cfl.res.rr.com) |
| 07:43.32 | Shirik|zZz | damn perform isn't working :( |
| 07:43.49 | Nargiddley | Shirik|zZz, its just not installed by default |
| 07:43.56 | sag_ich_nicht | Shirik|zZz |
| 07:44.00 | sag_ich_nicht | ~wakeup Shirik|zZz |
| 07:44.00 | purl | ACTION silently aproaches Shirik|zZz, who's sleeping (zZzZZZzzZZ, Ronc !!! ronc!), gets off his pants and shoots a noisy fart ... PUBFBFBFBBBFFF!!! |
| 07:44.01 | Wobwork | Nargiddley: feh |
| 07:44.10 | Wobwork | .... |
| 07:44.11 | Wobwork | ew |
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| 07:44.51 | sag_ich_nicht | lol |
| 07:44.55 | Shirik|zZz | ok that's fixed |
| 07:44.57 | Shirik|zZz | night |
| 07:45.13 | Shirik|zZz | Nargiddley: Yeah I figured as much, just don't feel like installing it |
| 07:45.18 | Shirik|zZz | if I have to do that, I might as well install PuTTY |
| 07:45.24 | Nargiddley | yeah :/ |
| 07:45.37 | Shirik|zZz | seriously, the thing took like what, 1MB of memory? |
| 07:45.45 | Shirik|zZz | what good was it getting rid of it? |
| 07:45.50 | Nargiddley | nfi |
| 07:45.54 | Shirik|zZz | Vista on its own takes like 20GB |
| 07:46.10 | Nargiddley | but somehow they made it take about 3 minutes to install |
| 07:46.15 | Nargiddley | its still going :/ |
| 07:46.22 | Shirik|zZz | lua> return 1/(20*1024) |
| 07:46.23 | cladbot | Shirik|zZz: 4.8828125e-05 |
| 07:47.04 | Shirik|zZz | 4.8828x10^-5 == 0.00005 == 0.005% |
| 07:47.10 | Shirik|zZz | 0.005% reduction of memory |
| 07:47.12 | Shirik|zZz | whooooooooo |
| 07:47.21 | Shirik|zZz | anyway, night |
| 07:47.30 | amro | nn |
| 07:47.31 | Mentrobit | night |
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| 08:04.53 | Guillotine | Shirik|zZz: http://blogs.msdn.com/shamit/archive/2006/07/07/659513.aspx |
| 08:04.56 | Guillotine | to turn telnet back on |
| 08:10.59 | Guillotine | and does telnetting to the IRC port of an IRC server actually work? |
| 08:11.09 | art3mis | if ya know the raw commands yeah |
| 08:11.27 | art3mis | it's pretty ugly too ;) |
| 08:11.41 | Guillotine | I do, but its always given a Connect failed error when I tried to telnet |
| 08:11.55 | Guillotine | (learned more than I wanted to making my own irc bot/client in Lua |
| 08:12.12 | Guillotine | when I try to telnet to 6667* |
| 08:13.41 | art3mis | depends on the irc server too |
| 08:13.51 | art3mis | efnet supports it |
| 08:14.03 | art3mis | most of the ones with nickserv and chanserv dont |
| 08:14.16 | zenzelezz | Shirik|zZz: "install" PuTTY? Last I checked it was just a download-and-run program |
| 08:15.56 | Guillotine | even efnet fails for me :/ |
| 08:16.07 | Guillotine | wonder if its a vista problem. if its blocking it |
| 08:16.20 | zenzelezz | sounds like you're doing something wrong then, or the telnet client is sending some data it shouldn't |
| 08:16.41 | Guillotine | all I'm doing is typing "telnet irc.freenode.net 6667" |
| 08:16.43 | art3mis | yeah its a vista thing |
| 08:16.46 | Guillotine | ah |
| 08:16.49 | Guillotine | should have guessed |
| 08:16.50 | art3mis | works in xp |
| 08:16.52 | Guillotine | damn you vista! |
| 08:18.52 | Nargiddley | works for me |
| 08:19.26 | Nargiddley | can't remember the commands to login but i connect fine |
| 08:19.38 | Guillotine | NICK name |
| 08:19.45 | Guillotine | USER name |
| 08:20.07 | Guillotine | JOIN #channel |
| 08:20.18 | Guillotine | PRIVMSG #channel : message |
| 08:20.26 | Guillotine | whoops, no space after : |
| 08:20.26 | Nargiddley | user needs more params |
| 08:20.32 | zenzelezz | some networks send a ping you must respond to as part of the login process |
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| 08:20.53 | Guillotine | Nargiddley: from what I've seen, most servers only require name in USER |
| 08:20.56 | Nargiddley | i diddnt see a ping, and thats just PONG <some number they ping you with> |
| 08:21.02 | Guillotine | anyway, gn all |
| 08:21.08 | zenzelezz | like I said, some networks, not all |
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| 08:26.12 | Guillo | Hell oo form telnet :) It is a vista problem. working fine from pxp ocomp |
| 08:27.19 | Guillo | really gn now |
| 08:29.55 | grephead | zenzelezz: there is an installation package for putty, it installs putty, puttygen, putty agent and some other tools. |
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| 08:34.22 | Narg_ | Working from vista for me |
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| 08:56.48 | zenzelezz | I find it amusing that they don't sell beer/alcohol here today because it's election day |
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| 09:43.13 | zenzelezz | oh man... some guy actually converted his application to my guild to a PDF o_O |
| 09:45.02 | zenzelezz | and he refers to his old guild as his "clan" |
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| 10:00.33 | bleeter | http://ars.userfriendly.org/cartoons/?id=20070910&mode=classic |
| 10:02.21 | zenzelezz | I lack the emacs to really understand that one |
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| 11:06.51 | GofG | Why is Scatman so popular for WoW vids? |
| 11:07.15 | zenzelezz | John? |
| 11:07.30 | GofG | Yeah |
| 11:07.38 | GofG | but I was refering to the specific song |
| 11:07.39 | zenzelezz | I thought he had two "hits" about a decade ago and faded from memory, well deserved |
| 11:08.49 | GofG | "hits"? |
| 11:09.25 | zenzelezz | as in they got played for a bit on the radio but no-one really liked them |
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| 11:10.50 | GofG | :/ I thought they were alright |
| 11:11.01 | [dRaCo] | well... back then, I used to like em. |
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| 11:11.10 | [dRaCo] | given, I was like 14 or something :/ |
| 11:11.48 | zenzelezz | at the time I liked them too, but I can't say I feel the same about them now |
| 11:12.15 | [dRaCo] | that's something completely different |
| 11:12.44 | zenzelezz | meh, teens like what the pop culture tell them to, the adults never liked them around here anyway |
| 11:17.03 | GofG | I liked it because it was decent music |
| 11:17.15 | GofG | not because pop culture told me to :) |
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| 12:35.17 | Lin_ | morning all |
| 12:36.38 | |Jelly| | Morning. |
| 12:36.46 | Cidan | morning Lin |
| 12:36.54 | Cidan | annnd, I'm off, bye all. :D |
| 12:37.03 | |Jelly| | Bye. lol |
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| 13:07.46 | Kaso | http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v87/lntkaos/graph.png |
| 13:07.51 | Kaso | lol *cringe* |
| 13:08.07 | Lopeppeppy | Is that 3D snake chess? |
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| 13:11.56 | Kaso | You clearly havent done enough maths to get the joke! |
| 13:12.29 | bleeter | so this guy walks into a bar with his tuba, orders a drink and sits in a dark booth in the back |
| 13:12.34 | bleeter | "What's with him?" a man at the bar asks the bartender |
| 13:12.36 | bleeter | The bartenders says.... |
| 13:12.39 | bleeter | "He's been like that ...." |
| 13:12.41 | bleeter | "ever since he lost his pah" |
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| 13:26.42 | |Jelly| | PEPPY! |
| 13:31.29 | Shirik|zZz | _________________________________________________ |
| 13:31.30 | Shirik|zZz | 14(0411:1311:1214) 14(1115zenzelezz14) Shirik|zZz: "install" PuTTY? Last I checked it was just a download-and-run program |
| 13:31.30 | Shirik|zZz | 14[#wowi-lounge14] - 14[10/09/200714] |
| 13:31.30 | Shirik|zZz | ¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯ |
| 13:31.32 | Shirik|zZz | you get what I mean |
| 13:31.36 | Shirik|zZz | oops |
| 13:31.38 | Shirik|zZz | sorry wrong copy |
| 13:32.09 | Josh_Borke | ~lart Shirik|zZz |
| 13:32.09 | purl | duct-tapes Shirik|zZz to the floor and drools on him |
| 13:35.18 | sag_ich_nicht | Shirik|AFK well it DOES have an installer |
| 13:35.24 | sag_ich_nicht | it jut doesn't neccesairly ned it :X |
| 13:35.39 | zenzelezz | yup, I was already corrected shortly after I asked |
| 13:37.43 | Shirik|AFK | Why is it that my school servers are always down only on the days I absolutely need them |
| 13:37.45 | Shirik|AFK | christ |
| 13:38.25 | Shirik|AFK | Better question: Why are our servers down on a constant basis |
| 13:38.33 | |Jelly| | Your school knows that Jelly would beat Kimina and they're just, you know, on my side. |
| 13:38.34 | |Jelly| | :P |
| 13:38.41 | Shirik|AFK | If they were hired by any real company they'd all be fired in a day |
| 13:38.54 | Shirik|AFK | lies, nobody can beat me |
| 13:39.02 | zenzelezz | why do you think the IT people at schools work in schools? |
| 13:39.09 | zenzelezz | they didn't get accepted anywhere else |
| 13:39.15 | |Jelly| | tr00f |
| 13:39.21 | Shirik|AFK | fair enough |
| 13:39.26 | Shirik|AFK | /shower |
| 13:40.28 | |Jelly| | *hugs Peppy* |
| 13:40.35 | Josh_Borke | except i haven't graduated yet |
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| 13:40.45 | Josh_Borke | Shirik|AFK: pretty sure I beat you |
| 13:40.53 | Shirik|AFK | nah |
| 13:41.00 | Shirik|AFK | Now that I realize I'm not supposed to use my trinkets apparently |
| 13:41.02 | Shirik|AFK | I think I beat you |
| 13:41.20 | Shirik|AFK | Apparently using my trinkets causes a drop in my TBR |
| 13:41.27 | Josh_Borke | lol |
| 13:42.52 | |Jelly| | Shirik HAX |
| 13:44.54 | |Jelly| | Woot. Reinstall photoshop. I don't feel naked anymore! |
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| 13:55.13 | Lopeppeppy | Photoshop is the bestest. I wish I had it at work, and not just at home. |
| 13:55.25 | |Jelly| | Make them get you a copy! |
| 13:55.46 | |Jelly| | I'm trying to decide if I want CS3 or just stick with CS2 since I don't really use it all that often for anything of importance. |
| 13:56.13 | Lopeppeppy | I have 7 at home. At work they won't install it because I'm a contractor, and not covered by their license, etc etc etc. I use GIMP. |
| 13:56.33 | |Jelly| | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:56.40 | |Jelly| | I've never used GIMP. |
| 13:56.43 | |Jelly| | :\ |
| 13:56.47 | zenzelezz | you both graphics people? |
| 13:57.33 | |Jelly| | Not really. I like to noodle around though and got CS2 through my school. |
| 13:58.01 | Lopeppeppy | GIMP is okay, but very rough and I can't manipulate things the way I'm used to in PhotoShop. I'm in webpages, zenzelezz -- so they can claim that it's not central to my job, but they're a bit wrong. :) |
| 13:58.55 | |Jelly| | Haxxorz t3h on yu0r pc imo. :P |
| 13:59.00 | zenzelezz | I'm not about to argue whether they're right or not :-o |
| 13:59.14 | |Jelly| | I bet you have the macromedia suite though. lol |
| 13:59.30 | zenzelezz | my skills basically extend to very basic operations in PSP 7 :-p |
| 14:00.35 | Lopeppeppy | No Macromedia either, |Jelly|. They gave me Dreamweaver but I specifically don't work on the Dreamweaver sites (we have a content management system instead, for better control over the look). I can't even connect to the server with the Dreamweaver files. |
| 14:00.53 | |Jelly| | ahhh |
| 14:01.33 | |Jelly| | I'm a bit torn when it comes to writing web pages and what not. I mean, I like Dreamweaver but I also like to write in notepad and use Dreamweaver as a glorified encyclopedia. |
| 14:01.38 | Lopeppeppy | And I already got a talkin-to about having Vent on my work laptop. <.< "Voice conferencing!" I claimed. |
| 14:01.39 | zenzelezz | don't suppose you know if you can make variable-transparency TGAs in either of your programs? Not just on/off alpha, but something like 25% some places, 75% others, etc. From what I know about the format it should be possible but I suck with editors so never got around to testing it |
| 14:02.08 | |Jelly| | roflamo |
| 14:02.11 | Lopeppeppy | zenzelezz -- more complex than I've ever had to do. My pocket graphic-designer is AFK for the week, or I'd ask him for ya. |
| 14:02.36 | alestane | I have done it with Photoshop, don't know about other editors. |
| 14:02.55 | zenzelezz | WoW accepts them as you'd expect too? |
| 14:03.08 | alestane | As long as they're saved as 32-bit/pixel. |
| 14:03.16 | |Jelly| | I honestly don't know. I'd probably break it up into different textures for the sake of simplicity but it wouldn't surprise me (as alestane just said) if Photoshop could do it. |
| 14:03.33 | alestane | You need to make sure you're using an 8-bit alpha channel. |
| 14:03.52 | zenzelezz | don't believe TGA supports any other, either no alpha or 8-bit |
| 14:04.38 | zenzelezz | but thanks, I'll dig around later and see if I can find something |
| 14:05.42 | Beladona | sn't 8bit in TGA variable? |
| 14:05.54 | alestane | Anyhoo I had some issues in the beginning because people told me to save it as 24-bit with an alpha channel...in the version of PSP I'm using, I checked off "Save Alpha Channel" when I saved, then it asked me for a bit depth (8,24,32), so I picked 24, and my alpha channel was gone when I reopened. |
| 14:05.56 | Beladona | as one would expect |
| 14:05.59 | zenzelezz | it's because it's 8-bit I expect it to be variable |
| 14:06.03 | Beladona | aye |
| 14:06.13 | zenzelezz | I just had little success before, but like I said I suck at graphics :) |
| 14:06.34 | Beladona | I use paint shop pro for that, simple because the alpha channel creation process is 10 times more intuitive |
| 14:06.52 | alestane | Had to save as 32-bit. |
| 14:06.56 | zenzelezz | which version Bela? |
| 14:07.22 | Beladona | photoshop expects you to create it as a separate channel just like a layer, whereas psp lets you creat ethe whole image with the transparency you want first, then save the image's transprency to the alpha channel |
| 14:07.32 | Beladona | which is easier for me |
| 14:07.41 | Beladona | I use 11 |
| 14:07.49 | Beladona | but they have had it isnce 7 I thinbk |
| 14:09.32 | Shirik | alestane: It depends on how your program defines bit depth |
| 14:09.33 | |Jelly| | Welcome back. |
| 14:09.38 | Shirik | one could argue it's both 24 and 32 bit |
| 14:09.53 | Shirik | 8 bpp, ARGB |
| 14:10.09 | alestane | For the version I use I have to choose a setting which is called, "32-bit". |
| 14:10.21 | zenzelezz | the TGA spec I read calls them 24-bit and 24-bit with 8-bit alpha |
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| 14:10.33 | alestane | Yes, it's four channels with 8bpp each. |
| 14:10.48 | Beladona | technically is IS both Shirik |
| 14:10.58 | Beladona | its a 24bit image with an 8bit alpha channel |
| 14:11.02 | Shirik | that's why I said that |
| 14:11.09 | alestane | It depends whether one's settings include alpha in the bit depth or not. |
| 14:11.13 | Beladona | that is true regardless of how the editor sees it |
| 14:11.18 | Shirik | programs are going to call it two different things. You just need to learn what your program calls it. |
| 14:11.47 | Beladona | but either way is accurate I believe |
| 14:12.23 | Shirik | never said it wasn't |
| 14:12.32 | alestane | I actually try not to do much texture editing at all for my addons. Most of them modify the behvaior of stock elements rather than appearance, or give access to standard spells and effects for which I can use art assets already included with the game. |
| 14:13.02 | alestane | The biggest thing I did recently was the kitty ears for art3mis' HKUI. |
| 14:13.22 | Beladona | I prefer to go custom graphics when possible, and within reason |
| 14:14.15 | Lopeppeppy | I avoid graphics like the plague... simple is better. |
| 14:14.29 | Beladona | I hat ethe default graphics |
| 14:14.31 | Beladona | hate* |
| 14:15.05 | Beladona | zenzelezz: this might help you |
| 14:15.08 | Beladona | http://www.axialis.com/tutorials/tutorial-misc001.html |
| 14:15.24 | zenzelezz | excellent, thanks :) |
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| 14:18.43 | alestane | See, as a player I primarily use the stock interface. I don't mind the look of it and I just don't see that much benefit to investing the time in wiping it clean and starting over. As a result, as a mod developer I cater primarily to people to want to extend or control their interface rather than replace it. |
| 14:25.31 | alestane | Also to people who want lightweight solutions to specific problems...Demonomicon, for instance, provides a fraction of Necrosis-like functionality to specifically address one of the biggest headaches of warlock life...finding bar space for all your summon spells and demon control macros. |
| 14:25.59 | |Jelly| | Dear Shirik, http://img212.imageshack.us/img212/6273/128292547021215000ydunulj0.jpg -Jelly |
| 14:26.35 | Lopeppeppy | That was my desktop image last week, |Jelly| |
| 14:26.52 | |Jelly| | Just another reason I <3 you so much. |
| 14:27.26 | Lopeppeppy | I can't find it on the web anymore, but I have the little fairy cat this week, "Ok, wut is yr wishes?" |
| 14:27.34 | Shirik | /confused |
| 14:27.59 | |Jelly| | Hey Shirik, what's the Windows Experience Index of your computer? lol |
| 14:28.46 | Shirik | ? |
| 14:29.50 | |Jelly| | Vista gives your computer a rating, I'm wondering how my computer stacks up. |
| 14:30.01 | Shirik | it does? where? |
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| 14:30.32 | |Jelly| | Control Panel > Performance Information and Tools |
| 14:30.40 | Shirik | also my computer is a bit out of date |
| 14:30.48 | sag_ich_nicht | mhm someone care to post something about the retribution talent vengeance placing you in combat on the suggestions forum or maybe even the PTR forums? it's the same annoyance that bloodrage etc. are causing(which is why THOSE were fixed) |
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| 14:31.39 | cladhaire | that would be a paladin buff |
| 14:31.40 | cladhaire | so no |
| 14:31.43 | Shirik | I don't see this "Performance Information and Tools" |
| 14:31.56 | Shirik | nm |
| 14:32.03 | Shirik | I fail at the alphabet |
| 14:32.04 | |Jelly| | Ret Paladins? They make those? |
| 14:32.12 | Wobin_ | Windows... Experience.... Index...? |
| 14:32.26 | |Jelly| | I was waiting for that. Thank you Wobin_ |
| 14:32.27 | Wobin_ | ...words fail =P |
| 14:32.35 | cladhaire | buildings crumble |
| 14:32.40 | cladhaire | the ground opens wide |
| 14:32.41 | Wobin_ | governments tumble |
| 14:32.44 | Wobin_ | and heads roll |
| 14:32.50 | cladhaire | light beams, down from heaven.. they stand before my eyes. |
| 14:32.53 | cladhaire | s/they/she/ |
| 14:33.28 | Intangir | whats this? |
| 14:33.31 | Intangir | song lyrics? |
| 14:34.14 | cladhaire | indeed |
| 14:34.26 | Lopeppeppy | Musical Monday. |
| 14:34.26 | Wobin_ | for me "buildings crumble, governments tumble and heads roll" was something my year six school teacher often said |
| 14:34.28 | Intangir | what song |
| 14:34.34 | Shirik | 4.3 low, 5.9 high |
| 14:34.34 | Wobin_ | God knows why =\ |
| 14:34.45 | Shirik | though I wonder if it matters that I have five bazillion programs open |
| 14:34.46 | Wobin_ | Shirik: So.. it's like a blood pressure? |
| 14:34.47 | sag_ich_nicht | [16:31] <@cladhaire> so no <--no, not really. it would just fix an annoyance, since i just have to click away the buff every time after combat so i can drink -_- |
| 14:34.54 | sag_ich_nicht | fucking annoying as hell in CoT2 |
| 14:34.57 | Intangir | Wobin_: she sounds cool |
| 14:35.29 | |Jelly| | I'm not sure. I don't think so. And my computer is about the same: 4.4-5.9 |
| 14:35.38 | Shirik | I'm gonna shut down everything and refresh :P |
| 14:35.42 | Shirik | except mirc because that takes like nothing |
| 14:36.03 | |Jelly| | http://www.microsoft.com/windows/products/windowsvista/buyorupgrade/experienceindex.mspx |
| 14:36.05 | |Jelly| | "However, the standards for each level of the index stay the same. For example, a computer scored as a 2.8 will remain as a 2.8 unless you decide to upgrade your computer's hardware." |
| 14:36.25 | Shirik | ya ok |
| 14:36.29 | Shirik | even though it just change |
| 14:36.33 | Shirik | yeah, I believe you microsoft |
| 14:36.37 | |Jelly| | lol |
| 14:36.50 | |Jelly| | Microsoft? Lie?!? NEVAR! |
| 14:37.26 | Wobin_ | of course, if you upgrade the hardware, you'll probably have to buy another copy of Vista =P |
| 14:37.36 | Wobin_ | with a different random seed for the WEI |
| 14:37.57 | |Jelly| | http://icanhascheezburger.files.wordpress.com/2007/08/bring-me-solo-and-the-wookiee-they-will-all-suffr-4-dis-outrage_r.jpg <-- lolz |
| 14:38.12 | Josh_Borke | lol |
| 14:38.14 | Wobin_ | hehe |
| 14:38.19 | Wobin_ | I will never ever tire of lolcats |
| 14:38.23 | Wobin_ | it's really sad =P |
| 14:39.16 | Shirik | 4.4-6.0 |
| 14:39.29 | Shirik | anyway, the 4.4 is coming from memory. I always knew that was a problem |
| 14:39.33 | |Jelly| | So closing everything really doesn't change a whole hell of a lot? |
| 14:39.33 | Shirik | working on fixing that one |
| 14:39.36 | Shirik | not really |
| 14:39.41 | |Jelly| | My 4.4 is coming from my CPU :( |
| 14:39.48 | Shirik | everything else is 5 or higher |
| 14:40.03 | Shirik | the CPU is the only thing sitting at 5, the rest are 5.5 |
| 14:40.25 | Shirik | I'm amused by "Disk Data Transfer Rate" being only 6 when I have pretty much the fastest available right now |
| 14:40.51 | |Jelly| | I have a quote for that too. |
| 14:41.00 | |Jelly| | "Computers with a base score of 5.0 were the highest performing computers available when Windows Vista was released." |
| 14:41.08 | Shirik | ah |
| 14:41.49 | |Jelly| | I'd like to know if there's a cap or if it's just an endless number that will one day be like 80 or if M4 will scale it with technology. |
| 14:41.57 | Shirik | heh |
| 14:42.03 | |Jelly| | s/M4/M$/ |
| 14:42.14 | Shirik | well yeah, I'm running 2 300MB/s SATA drives in RAID0 |
| 14:42.21 | Shirik | it doesn't get much faster on the personal computer level |
| 14:42.22 | |Jelly| | HOLY CRAP! It worked! I'm amazed! |
| 14:42.41 | Shirik | ? |
| 14:42.50 | |Jelly| | Making purl correct me. |
| 14:43.05 | Shirik | haha |
| 14:43.07 | |Jelly| | Generally speaking, I fail 90% of the time. I've tried it like 10 times. |
| 14:44.29 | Shirik | you know what, now that I look at this |
| 14:44.35 | Shirik | this is mostly a pile of crap |
| 14:44.41 | |Jelly| | Well duh. :P |
| 14:44.57 | Shirik | calculations per second, memory operations per second |
| 14:45.16 | Shirik | both are the worst factors to calculate with regards to performance |
| 14:45.17 | |Jelly| | When I looked at it, I thought to myself "How novel. Microsoft found a way to make you feel inferior so you'd upgrade." |
| 14:45.33 | Shirik | try cache hits. Try bus speed. |
| 14:45.44 | Shirik | Latency will show up a bit in memory ops but it's not the driving factor |
| 14:46.21 | Shirik | they're being consumers again and going "faster is better" |
| 14:46.33 | Shirik | "zomg my cpu is 5089332 gajiggaherz" |
| 14:46.46 | Shirik | "Yeah? What's your hard drive speed?" "ATA/66?" |
| 14:46.52 | |Jelly| | ZOMG! |
| 14:47.11 | Shirik | You can have the fastest CPU in the world but your computer will still only run as fast as the slowest piece of hardware it needs |
| 14:47.28 | |Jelly| | Oh. Isn't that nice, they made it super easy for me to upgrade to Ultimate. lol |
| 14:47.36 | Shirik | heh |
| 14:48.59 | |Jelly| | Speech Recognition? |
| 14:49.07 | Shirik | Heh, clicking the "View software geared to my base score" button takes me straight to the page for bioshock |
| 14:49.17 | Shirik | I /should/ try that out sometime |
| 14:49.44 | |Jelly| | I plan on trying it out later on. "You're all fucking stupid" opens my "Don't Worry, By Happy" mp3. |
| 14:49.56 | |Jelly| | Me too! |
| 14:49.57 | Shirik | are you serious? |
| 14:50.03 | |Jelly| | No, lol. |
| 14:50.27 | |Jelly| | I'll probably set it up so I can open photoshop, wow, firefox, etc. :P |
| 14:50.30 | |Jelly| | i r lazi |
| 14:50.48 | |Jelly| | "Train your computer to better understand you." I'm laughing so hard... |
| 14:51.40 | Shirik | I need to get a better monitor.. |
| 14:52.01 | ts|skrom | Shirik bioshock rocks my socks |
| 14:52.02 | |Jelly| | I'm sorry Dave, I'm afraid I can't do that. |
| 14:52.08 | Shirik | I hear it's good |
| 14:52.33 | |Jelly| | I don't recall what wouldn't work on it for me but it pissed me off so I never got to play the demo. |
| 14:52.41 | Shirik | you know what else would be awesome? If the bank gave me a fricking statement |
| 14:52.44 | |Jelly| | Perhaps, now that I'm on a fresh install, I should try it again. |
| 14:52.58 | ts|skrom | |Jelly| your vid card prolly doesn't support the right shaders |
| 14:53.00 | Shirik | Seeing all this activity on my credit card is cool and all, but I can't pay it off without the account number |
| 14:53.18 | |Jelly| | ts|skrom: Your video card probably, SHUT UP! /cry |
| 14:53.26 | ts|skrom | ./comfort |
| 14:53.42 | Shirik | !vs us eredar shirik us burning legion jelly |
| 14:53.46 | ts|skrom | going without bioshock can be hard on all of us, but I'm here for you |
| 14:53.46 | ThraeBot | Shirik: Shirik vs Jelly! A L70 hunter and a L70 priest square off!; 3/50/8 vs 23/38/0; Shirik wins by 1061 TBRs! ***OWNED TO THE EXTREME!!*** |
| 14:53.55 | Shirik | sorry, I had to |
| 14:54.00 | |Jelly| | Shirik. Die. :( |
| 14:54.13 | ts|skrom | !vs us burning legion jelly us uldum rho |
| 14:54.16 | ThraeBot | ts|skrom: Jelly vs Rho! Jelly has +8 lvls on Rho (70 vs 62); A L70 priest and a L62 warlock square off!; 23/38/0 vs 36/17/0; Jelly wins by 172 TBRs! |
| 14:54.24 | ts|skrom | there you go :) |
| 14:54.33 | |Jelly| | lol |
| 14:54.34 | Shirik | !vs us eredar shirik us uldum rho |
| 14:54.35 | ThraeBot | Shirik: Shirik vs Rho! Shirik has +8 lvls on Rho (70 vs 62); A L70 hunter and a L62 warlock square off!; 3/50/8 vs 36/17/0; Shirik wins by 1234 TBRs! ***OWNED TO THE EXTREME!!*** |
| 14:54.41 | |Jelly| | GG, I can beat a level 62. |
| 14:54.47 | Shirik | I = ownage |
| 14:54.58 | |Jelly| | Wanna know what makes me not happy? |
| 14:54.59 | Shirik | |Jelly| are you aware that you beat him by less points than my priest beats you? |
| 14:55.02 | ts|skrom | !vs us uldum rho us uldum treston |
| 14:55.05 | ThraeBot | ts|skrom: Rho vs Treston! Treston has +1 lvls on Rho (62 vs 63); A L62 warlock and a L63 paladin square off!; 36/17/0 vs 44/10/0; Treston wins by 228 TBRs! |
| 14:55.07 | ts|skrom | my pally vs my lock |
| 14:55.15 | |Jelly| | This should give you guys a good laugh. |
| 14:55.45 | |Jelly| | When I was backing up my stuff, I apparently ran out of room and didn't realize it until it was to late, leaving off my WTF folder from my WoW install. |
| 14:55.53 | ts|skrom | oops |
| 14:55.57 | Shirik | =( |
| 14:56.05 | |Jelly| | Good thing I back that up, I guess. Too bad it's like a week old. :( |
| 14:56.29 | |Jelly| | Wait a second. |
| 14:56.30 | Lopeppeppy | Ouch. |
| 14:56.35 | |Jelly| | Is that sympathy from Shirik?!? |
| 14:56.43 | Josh_Borke | i believe it is |
| 14:56.48 | Shirik | I know, impossible, right? |
| 14:56.53 | Josh_Borke | shirik: indeed |
| 14:56.54 | |Jelly| | Did. Hell. Freeze. Over? |
| 14:57.16 | Josh_Borke | yea, i'm freezing my ass off right now |
| 14:57.34 | |Jelly| | http://www.wunderground.com/cgi-bin/findweather/getForecast?query=hell I dunno. lol |
| 14:58.35 | ts|skrom | that's some nice weather there |
| 14:58.56 | Shirik | If I _EVER_ see ANYONE on my server post something like this, they're going on my ignore list: http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=1531075238&sid=1 |
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| 14:59.20 | Shirik | I hate warriors who think that slamming your face against the keyboard as quickly as possible is the best way to ensure victory |
| 14:59.52 | nevcairiel | dont all melee classes do that? |
| 14:59.53 | cog|work | IT ISN'T!!1??? |
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| 15:00.06 | Shirik | nevcairiel: I could care less for a rogue |
| 15:00.07 | Lopeppeppy | Is it the question, or the answer, Shirik? |
| 15:00.18 | Shirik | A warrior has a bit more to pay attention to than mashing buttons |
| 15:00.18 | |Jelly| | cog|work HAI! |
| 15:00.24 | cog|work | Shirik: s/could/couldn't/ |
| 15:00.34 | Shirik | whatever |
| 15:00.39 | cog|work | |Jelly|: ZOMGHAEE |
| 15:00.55 | krka_ | don't you mean "couldn't care less" ? |
| 15:01.13 | Josh_Borke | ~lart krka_ |
| 15:01.13 | purl | hereby declares krka_ a troll |
| 15:01.18 | cog|work | krka_: see two posts of mine up... |
| 15:01.35 | alestane | cog|work: Just to let you know I revised my code posting in the WoWInterface forums. Also mentioned in a bump to my Bliz thread. |
| 15:01.36 | krka_ | sorry |
| 15:01.51 | krka_ | my perl ignoring has also lead to regexp replace ognoring |
| 15:01.55 | krka_ | *ignoring |
| 15:01.57 | |Jelly| | At least I'm not the only person that corrects people on that. Usually, I just say "Oh, you could care less? That's so nice of you." Then they just give me a perplexed look as I walk off. |
| 15:02.01 | krka_ | err, purl |
| 15:02.01 | cog|work | alestane: saw that this morning (or last night or something) |
| 15:02.11 | alestane | kk just fyi. |
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| 15:03.42 | Shirik | I wonder if I should go back to posting on Shirik |
| 15:04.23 | |Jelly| | IMO, doesn't matter. |
| 15:05.03 | Lopeppeppy | Everyone thought I disappeared when I swapped avatars... sometimes it does matter. |
| 15:05.23 | |Jelly| | I don't call Shirik, Kimina though. |
| 15:05.40 | cog|work | |Jelly|: but most people don't recognize him for who he is... |
| 15:05.48 | cog|work | in spite of sig |
| 15:05.56 | |Jelly| | I do, on the other hand, call you Peppy! But I would more than likely notice your sig cause it always makes me want to get cookies. |
| 15:06.05 | alestane | Lopeppeppy: Who were you before? |
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| 15:06.13 | Wobin_ | cookies? |
| 15:06.48 | alestane | And I know it took me a little while to catch that Kamdis was Talina. |
| 15:07.00 | Lopeppeppy | alestane: I was posting as my paladin Kirwan for a while, until someone remarked in their post that they missed me... Might have been |Jelly| who said that, even. |
| 15:07.13 | alestane | I don't know that I remember that one. |
| 15:07.39 | Lopeppeppy | Wobin_, my sig for the WoW forums always mentions cookies. alestane, it was about 4 months ago that I swapped back. |
| 15:09.54 | Shirik | cog|work: exactly |
| 15:10.47 | Shirik | http://it.slashdot.org/it/07/09/10/147238.shtml |
| 15:10.51 | Shirik | that is pretty interesting |
| 15:11.17 | |Jelly| | Damn you Cog. |
| 15:12.10 | cog|work | <3 u 2 jelly :P |
| 15:13.15 | Rallion | ...sigh...I should bring my Wii to UPS to have it shipped back for repairs today, but I really don't want to. |
| 15:15.53 | Lopeppeppy | It ain't getting fixed sitting at your house, Rallion. |
| 15:15.56 | Wobin_ | s'true |
| 15:15.57 | Wobin_ | well |
| 15:16.01 | Wobin_ | you can wave it around |
| 15:16.03 | Wobin_ | and pretend |
| 15:16.14 | Rallion | well, the thing is, it still WORKS |
| 15:16.20 | Wobin_ | I hear that's what a lot of guys do when they can't perform |
| 15:16.31 | Rallion | but in any scene where Samus's ship is flying around, artifacts abount |
| 15:16.35 | Rallion | *abound |
| 15:16.48 | Rallion | hah. ahah. yes. |
| 15:17.26 | Wobin_ | This is where you need a backup console |
| 15:17.37 | |Jelly| | Where's Shirik going?! |
| 15:17.41 | Wobin_ | so you can play, like, God of War 2 while you wait |
| 15:17.50 | Shirik|AFK | class jeesh |
| 15:18.20 | Rallion | I do actually have 2 PS2's :P |
| 15:18.25 | Wobin_ | see? |
| 15:18.26 | |Jelly| | You have to check in and out with us; didn't you get the memo?? |
| 15:18.38 | Lopeppeppy | With the cover page for the TPS report? |
| 15:18.49 | |Jelly| | Who here has a G15 and Vista? Cause I think I found my first major "ZOMG WTF" |
| 15:18.53 | |Jelly| | Indeed. |
| 15:19.03 | Rallion | Jelly, do tell |
| 15:19.17 | |Jelly| | My play/pause/next buttons don't work on iTunes. :( |
| 15:19.24 | Rallion | That's sadness. |
| 15:19.26 | |Jelly| | (yes, I have all the logitech software installed, lol) |
| 15:19.37 | Lopeppeppy | You read-ed my mind, Jelly. |
| 15:19.45 | |Jelly| | <3 |
| 15:20.52 | Rallion | I feel that Nintendo should have also supplied me with shipping supplies. The free shipping is nice, but I'm not made of boxes and bubble wrap here. |
| 15:23.26 | Wobin_ | I am |
| 15:23.40 | Beladona | my iPhone comes in today. I is excited |
| 15:24.04 | |Jelly| | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:24.10 | Beladona | oh |Jelly| I have a G15 + Vista |
| 15:24.10 | cog|work | /onemillion |
| 15:24.18 | Beladona | why? |
| 15:24.28 | |Jelly| | Do you use iTunes? |
| 15:24.34 | Beladona | well, i will now |
| 15:24.37 | Beladona | 0.o |
| 15:24.45 | Beladona | but so far no |
| 15:25.10 | Beladona | why does Itunes not play nice with teh lcd in Vista? |
| 15:25.19 | |Jelly| | Cause my stupid play/pause/next buttons don't work with iTunes. |
| 15:25.26 | Josh_Borke | because your LCD is not Vista ready, obviously |
| 15:25.37 | |Jelly| | Sorry...watching a YouTube video, debating on if I want an accent. lol |
| 15:26.04 | Beladona | isn't that marketing hype though? "Vista Ready LCD" |
| 15:26.18 | Beladona | whats the difference other than maybe HDCP ready? |
| 15:26.22 | Beladona | which is an independant thing |
| 15:27.15 | |Jelly| | wtf |
| 15:27.15 | cog|work | http://games.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=07/09/10/1458218 |
| 15:27.19 | |Jelly| | ...NOW, they work |
| 15:27.21 | |Jelly| | ... |
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| 15:28.55 | Beladona | 9 million viewers worldwide? did they just draw a parallel to the wow subscriber base, assuming that is the only people that watched the episode? |
| 15:29.04 | Beladona | morons |
| 15:29.28 | |Jelly| | lol |
| 15:29.44 | |Jelly| | I think it's funny when people reference that episode to make fun of me. |
| 15:29.44 | Beladona | Though, when it comes to TV ratings, 9 million people worldwide does not a target audience make |
| 15:29.49 | Beladona | quote |
| 15:30.56 | |Jelly| | haha cog |
| 15:30.57 | Wobin_ | yeah |
| 15:31.04 | Wobin_ | they are making a reference to the wow userbase |
| 15:31.05 | |Jelly| | <3 http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=1531294872&sid=1 <-- you read my mind |
| 15:31.10 | Beladona | anyone have experience with guild roster fetching in addons? |
| 15:31.18 | cog|work | :) |
| 15:31.34 | Josh_Borke | you guys are mean |
| 15:32.18 | Beladona | nice cog |
| 15:32.20 | Beladona | hehe |
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| 15:42.35 | Josh_Borke | it's tuller, quick hide |
| 15:43.00 | Tuller | smash! |
| 15:44.04 | Josh_Borke | WTF |
| 15:44.13 | Josh_Borke | WHY WON'T WORD PRINT OUT MY GD RESUME 25 TIMES?! |
| 15:44.14 | Josh_Borke | RARGH! |
| 15:44.45 | zenzelezz | did you try 25 times or did you want 25 copies? |
| 15:45.22 | Josh_Borke | i want 25 copies. turns out it was just the printer |
| 15:45.44 | zenzelezz | you applying for a truckload of jobs? |
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| 15:45.49 | Josh_Borke | career fair |
| 15:45.51 | Josh_Borke | so yes |
| 15:47.05 | Lopeppeppy | I did that a while back... I find more luck in making one solid copy and going to Staples/Kinkos/whatever to have it copied onto good paper. My printer sucks after copy 5. |
| 15:48.17 | Josh_Borke | class time, bye |
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| 15:59.28 | playtime3 | I just got my fel hunt at lvl 30. What lvl can I learn the first pet skill for my fel hunt? |
| 16:00.04 | |Jelly| | 32? 34? One of those. |
| 16:00.17 | alestane | Demon trainer should be able to tell you that...and I think it comes with Devour Magic. |
| 16:00.41 | playtime3 | when can i silence and drain mana? at what lvl? |
| 16:01.07 | Wobin_ | try checking out wowhead.com |
| 16:01.19 | |Jelly| | http://thottbot.com/?ce=Warlock click on pets... |
| 16:01.32 | playtime3 | ta |
| 16:02.29 | [dRaCo] | devour magic is available at level 30, yes. |
| 16:02.31 | playtime3 | lvl 38 :( |
| 16:02.51 | playtime3 | is rank 2 for devour magic |
| 16:07.04 | zenzelezz | reading the first post in this thread, can you guess what the mentioned guild was eager to point out to the Silvermoon community before they transferred here? http://forums.wow-europe.com/thread.html?topicId=771257866&sid=1 |
| 16:07.48 | sag_ich_nicht | http://xkcd.com/314/ win. |
| 16:09.49 | mikma | humm |
| 16:09.53 | mikma | Unit? |
| 16:11.01 | zenzelezz | that's the guild aye. The bold text should sort of give away what they were telling us all before transferring :) |
| 16:11.02 | Lopeppeppy | I find that entire post to be confusing... I couldn't find a point to it at all, which is pretty typical of realm forum posts, IIRC. |
| 16:11.29 | zenzelezz | Lopeppeppy: Silvermoon forum is a drama forum, no more. Hoofit just happens to write the only good ones, due to his style and humor |
| 16:11.48 | zenzelezz | a semi-RPer talking about himself in third-person |
| 16:11.51 | zenzelezz | on a PvE realm |
| 16:13.10 | mikma | well unit sucked and it still does |
| 16:13.14 | mikma | so no harm done |
| 16:14.31 | zenzelezz | you a Silvermoon/Nordrassil person? :-o |
| 16:19.01 | mikma | ex. on both |
| 16:19.13 | mikma | alliance on nordrassil and horde on silvermoon |
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| 16:23.59 | art3mis | i guess its a silvermoon curse |
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| 16:24.09 | art3mis | the us ilvermon is a drama farm too ;) |
| 16:24.15 | art3mis | silvermoon |
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| 16:24.27 | Lopeppeppy | AD. All Drama, all the time. |
| 16:24.58 | art3mis | heh |
| 16:25.32 | art3mis | the us silvermoon you sorta have to pretend you're in grade school, without the "Do you like me? []Yes []No []Maybe" notes |
| 16:26.32 | mikma | Lopeppeppy: Argent Drama |
| 16:26.56 | Lopeppeppy | That works as well. |
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| 16:29.40 | Cidan- | Damn you peer, DAMN YOUUU |
| 16:30.05 | Lopeppeppy | Yeah, Fu! |
| 16:30.30 | alestane | art3mis:How's your new UI coming? |
| 16:31.16 | art3mis | http://www.gothi.ca/Stuff/hre.jpg |
| 16:31.25 | art3mis | thats about as far as i am on it right now |
| 16:31.51 | [dRaCo] | weird bar thingies. |
| 16:31.53 | zenzelezz | starting to look pretty good, but all the stuff on top of the textures in the center makes it feel cluttered |
| 16:31.57 | Cidan- | Hmm, I wonder if I can fit photoshop on this thumb drive, :x |
| 16:32.04 | Cidan- | Unlikely, bleh. |
| 16:32.12 | art3mis | zenzelezz: yeah was mucking with backgrounds on em last night didnt take a new screenie |
| 16:32.28 | art3mis | they look cleaner with a panel behind em |
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| 16:32.36 | art3mis | cidan: gimp does ;P |
| 16:32.54 | zenzelezz | the danger with patterns of any sort is that they can make things look "wrong" if they're broken |
| 16:32.58 | alestane | The square buttons look better with that layout. |
| 16:33.01 | art3mis | [dRaCo]: thats my new iron cross cyCircled |
| 16:33.37 | alestane | Interesting skin, you put it together yourself this time? |
| 16:33.48 | art3mis | zenzelezz: nods cleaning up the image is one of my tasks, that was done rather hasitily to give me something to work with |
| 16:33.56 | art3mis | yup |
| 16:34.25 | art3mis | http://www.gothi.ca/Stuff/cyCircled-cross.jpg |
| 16:34.57 | zenzelezz | that certainly puts the eagle in the Third Reich-ish light again |
| 16:35.04 | zenzelezz | looks good though |
| 16:35.07 | art3mis | its all roman ;P |
| 16:35.15 | zenzelezz | not for WW2 freaks like me |
| 16:35.18 | art3mis | heh |
| 16:35.37 | zenzelezz | looks just like that one medal I can't remember the name of right now |
| 16:35.51 | art3mis | the eagle was old school rome and the iron cross was from the crusades for the holy roman empire |
| 16:36.43 | art3mis | the eagle is also the SS officer lapel patch/pin and the iron cross was germany's victorian cross |
| 16:36.44 | alestane | art3mis: I understand what your inspiration is for this layout, but expect to catch some flak if you publish it from people who think you're glorifying Naziism...I'm saying you are, but some people will think that. |
| 16:37.00 | alestane | I'm NOT saying |
| 16:37.14 | zenzelezz | lol |
| 16:37.22 | art3mis | thats alright for this community all i have to point out is that i made the hello kitty one, to go more evil this is all i was left with ;) |
| 16:37.27 | zenzelezz | yeah, like I've been saying not everyone is familiar with the Roman stuff :) |
| 16:37.48 | [dRaCo] | there's nothing more evil than hello kitty! |
| 16:37.53 | Cidan- | Speaking of |
| 16:37.57 | art3mis | see ;P |
| 16:38.00 | Cidan- | My hello kitty theme for Conspiracy is almost done. |
| 16:38.22 | zenzelezz | it'll be the default skin, right? |
| 16:38.25 | Lopeppeppy | Yay! |
| 16:38.29 | Cidan- | Er, no. :D |
| 16:38.35 | Lopeppeppy | Boo. :P |
| 16:39.06 | art3mis | heh echo "Miya! $playername-Chan |
| 16:39.16 | art3mis | everytime it loads ;P |
| 16:39.23 | Cidan- | er, no. :D |
| 16:39.44 | alestane | No, but you could add that to the HKUI. |
| 16:39.54 | art3mis | hehe i debated a soundpack |
| 16:40.01 | Cidan- | oo |
| 16:40.02 | art3mis | i figured that would be too much ;P |
| 16:40.02 | Cidan- | OOO |
| 16:40.04 | Cidan- | OOOOO |
| 16:40.19 | Cidan- | I totally should code a sound resource system for conspiracy |
| 16:40.34 | art3mis | plus there werent any soundbites of hello kitty saying "Watch out! you're got aggro!" |
| 16:40.40 | alestane | This is scary...why do I not want to stop the Caramelldansen chipmunks loo laying in the background? Shouldn't it be driving me insane? |
| 16:40.44 | Cidan- | where you can add sounds to a database, then select sounds per event. |
| 16:40.46 | alestane | loop* |
| 16:41.02 | art3mis | cidan: oooo |
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| 16:41.15 | art3mis | make a porn theme for wow |
| 16:41.19 | Cidan- | NO |
| 16:41.21 | art3mis | compelte with sounds |
| 16:41.22 | Cidan- | God damn it. |
| 16:41.23 | Cidan- | :D |
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| 16:41.41 | zenzelezz | I'd be surprised if there wasn't already one |
| 16:41.52 | art3mis | mob crits you "ohhhhhh baby, just like that!" |
| 16:42.00 | Cidan- | Theme's are easy to make, I'm sure someone will do one for Conspiracy. |
| 16:42.04 | Cidan- | :/ |
| 16:42.10 | alestane | Does anyone know if a copy of Fairy Tale survived the loss of Discord-mods on some remote server somewhere? |
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| 16:49.27 | Cidan- | Guess not? |
| 16:49.44 | alestane | Or noone knows, at least. |
| 16:49.51 | Cidan- | Thus, you fail. |
| 16:50.14 | kergoth | morning |
| 16:50.15 | Lopeppeppy | Re-creation is the root of all creativity |
| 16:50.34 | kergoth | ~mornings |
| 16:50.35 | purl | Mornings MUST be destroyed! (see also http://www.destroymornings.com/) |
| 16:51.02 | alestane | I haven't even found a screenshot, so I'm not going to be able to pick up that ball I'm afraid. |
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| 16:51.39 | Lopeppeppy | Not even a screenshot... RIP! |
| 16:52.39 | alestane | Pity, that one was pretty. |
| 16:54.47 | Lopeppeppy | Is this a picture of it, alestane? http://boards.worldofraids.com/topic-5883-1.html |
| 16:55.37 | alestane | Lopeppeppy: That does appear to be the one... |
| 16:56.30 | alestane | I keep thinking a UI like that would be a good choice for replacing the action bars with a couple of generic sphere-type objects. |
| 16:56.37 | Lopeppeppy | My GoogleFu is strong today. |
| 16:56.55 | zenzelezz | mine wasn't :-| |
| 16:57.12 | zenzelezz | I just found "private server launchers" and rants about good patterns going green |
| 16:58.09 | alestane | They have a link, but it's a discordmods link...I wonder if Google might have it cached. |
| 16:58.50 | Lopeppeppy | I tried that link, and it didn't work. There's a link to an XArt on wowinterface, maybe to scan a few texture options... |
| 16:59.07 | zenzelezz | the last link seems to have at least some things |
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| 17:21.29 | zenzelezz | for some reason people have trouble spelling "exalted" |
| 17:21.59 | [dRaCo] | what do they write instead? |
| 17:22.02 | cog|work | you mean it's not exhaulted? |
| 17:22.14 | zenzelezz | exhalted, exhaulted, excalted |
| 17:22.40 | cog|work | There was a thread in General a couple years ago where I commented "There is no H in exalted" |
| 17:22.47 | cog|work | Someone replied "e" |
| 17:22.50 | Lopeppeppy | exhalted is common, so very common |
| 17:23.02 | cog|work | So i said "ee" |
| 17:23.03 | [dRaCo] | interesting.. in some weird way |
| 17:24.40 | Kaso | http://www.wsu.edu/~brians/errors/exalt.html :> |
| 17:24.49 | Kaso | I love Brian's Common English error site |
| 17:25.41 | Rallion | it's awesome |
| 17:26.19 | Kaso | Some of them i cant imagen people ever getting it *that* wrong though |
| 17:26.23 | Kaso | like "FISCAL/PHYSICAL" |
| 17:26.49 | Lopeppeppy | That seems like a spell-checker error to me... |
| 17:27.34 | alestane | Still in indicates to me that the typist has no real conception of the word's writted form. |
| 17:27.37 | zenzelezz | "A wether is just a castrated sheep." |
| 17:27.47 | Lopeppeppy | Yuh.... sure. |
| 17:28.00 | zenzelezz | don't think I've ever seen anyone spell it "wether" |
| 17:29.09 | cog|work | |Jelly|: http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=1531075238&sid=1 <--- Huh? |
| 17:29.31 | Lopeppeppy | Spend some time in a writing studio, zenzelezz... I did ESL tutoring for a few years there, it was good times. |
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| 17:30.58 | JoshBorke | |Jelly|: yea, wtf? |
| 17:31.03 | zenzelezz | curse you for linking that site |
| 17:31.38 | zenzelezz | I cringe every time I see someone spell "viola" |
| 17:31.48 | Lopeppeppy | rouge |
| 17:32.11 | [dRaCo] | what's viola even supposed to be? |
| 17:32.16 | zenzelezz | voila |
| 17:32.22 | [dRaCo] | o0 |
| 17:32.28 | zenzelezz | French word |
| 17:32.33 | [dRaCo] | yeah |
| 17:33.11 | [dRaCo] | in fact, there should be a ´ or ` somewhere, shouldnt it? |
| 17:33.31 | cog|work | voilà |
| 17:33.50 | [dRaCo] | been a while since I wrote something in french |
| 17:34.14 | zenzelezz | yes, but I don't expect non-Frenchies to know how to find the ` |
| 17:34.29 | [dRaCo] | it's next to the backspace here :> |
| 17:35.01 | cog|work | zenzelezz: even when we can find the key it doesn't help us put an accent on a character |
| 17:35.07 | cog|work | (by normal input methods, anyway) |
| 17:35.19 | zenzelezz | really? |
| 17:35.39 | [dRaCo] | hm? press the key, press the char, done... |
| 17:35.42 | cog|work | yep. the default input method for windows doesn't have any support for accented characters besides ALT-#### |
| 17:35.51 | zenzelezz | as far as I was aware it's what Windows considers a "dead char", one that expects a follow-up |
| 17:35.55 | cog|work | +US |
| 17:36.00 | zenzelezz | so ` + space or character |
| 17:36.04 | cog|work | nope |
| 17:36.12 | cog|work | ` is an instant left apostrophe |
| 17:36.18 | zenzelezz | works like that on my system anyway |
| 17:36.30 | [dRaCo] | works for me like it does for zenzelezz |
| 17:36.33 | cog|work | <cog|work>+US |
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| 17:36.55 | cog|work | most americans don't even understand why accents are necessary |
| 17:36.56 | zenzelezz | I just expected it to work the same across Windows |
| 17:37.15 | Lopeppeppy | Expected... hoo-boy, what a word. |
| 17:38.09 | alestane | Depends on which language you're set up for (and possibly the version of Windows you're using). |
| 17:38.10 | zenzelezz | what about it? |
| 17:38.18 | zenzelezz | @ Lopeppeppy |
| 17:38.42 | zenzelezz | alestane: to me it seemed more logical to be an underlying Windows mechanism than a layout/driver feature |
| 17:39.05 | cog|work | it's a regional feature |
| 17:39.06 | Lopeppeppy | Expect, assume.... those are the words that damage the world, zenzelezz. |
| 17:39.27 | cog|work | I believe the US-International layout might do that but i used Dvorak so... |
| 17:39.31 | zenzelezz | no, that depends entirely how they're used Lopeppeppy |
| 17:39.42 | alestane | Mac programs (as long as they use the OS-supplied text box controls) will also automatically capture accent characters, although to get a true accent and not a stand-alone tilde, you have to hold option while you press the key...that way it will capture the next char if they go together. |
| 17:40.12 | cog|work | MS word works like that |
| 17:40.58 | alestane | But it's an application behavior, not a library common to any program on the OS that edits text. |
| 17:42.56 | Lopeppeppy | zenzelezz... common usage equals out to overusage... anyway, as you say, it depends on how they are used. Everyone has their little trigger words, and "assume" and "expect" are mine, from a social and psychological point of view |
| 17:43.09 | alestane | Non sequitor: "Tycho: I still can't get my head around forums... that method of communication is impossible for me. Like, I can't keep track of it. I'll think "Ok, well, now it's time for me to contribute something", and then the next post is like "KITTIES!" (crowd laughs). And there's these cats, and they're in a basket, and I'm thinking "Well, they have an excellent point..." (more laughter)." |
| 17:43.26 | zenzelezz | Lopeppeppy: I assume that must be fun |
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| 17:49.29 | Lopeppeppy | Every day is fun, zenzelezz. |
| 17:49.45 | zenzelezz | I expect nothign less |
| 17:49.47 | zenzelezz | *nothing |
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| 17:52.25 | Valaron|Work | Hmm... |
| 17:52.41 | Shirik|Ecole | I. Hate. C. |
| 17:52.43 | Shirik|Ecole | period. |
| 17:52.47 | zenzelezz | ++ |
| 17:52.51 | cog|work | D |
| 17:52.58 | Shirik|Ecole | I just spent 30 minutes looking for an erro |
| 17:53.05 | Valaron|Work | Typo? |
| 17:53.10 | Shirik|Ecole | apparently you can't declare variables in the middle of a function in C |
| 17:53.14 | Shirik|Ecole | wtf |
| 17:53.17 | zenzelezz | O_o |
| 17:53.25 | Valaron|Work | No? |
| 17:53.26 | cog|work | how did the compiler not tell you that? |
| 17:53.32 | Shirik|Ecole | it said "parse error" |
| 17:53.32 | Shirik|Ecole | that's it |
| 17:53.38 | cog|work | :| |
| 17:53.51 | Rallion | http://xkcd.com/311/ |
| 17:53.52 | alestane | Variables in C are declarations, not statements. |
| 17:54.11 | cog|work | they're statements if you initialize... |
| 17:54.18 | cog|work | :P |
| 17:54.19 | zenzelezz | be glad you didn't do what I did, spend hours trying to find out why my loading function only worked half the time. Turned out I had used || instead of | when setting the file opening flags, which was syntactically valid, but gave quite unexpected results |
| 17:54.55 | alestane | lgoical OR not bitwise OR. |
| 17:54.59 | alestane | sp* |
| 17:55.16 | zenzelezz | the way I said it makes it easier to see what I mean |
| 17:55.35 | alestane | If you speak C, |
| 17:55.52 | zenzelezz | if you don't you may not get the joke anyway |
| 17:56.01 | zenzelezz | don't know how other languages set their flags |
| 17:56.07 | zenzelezz | I still have bad memories from VB |
| 17:56.32 | krka_ | Shirik|Ecole: doesn't that depend on what c version you use? |
| 17:56.43 | alestane | Bitwise operations are considered poor programming these days unless you're doing encryption. |
| 17:56.45 | zenzelezz | also, I have no clue where "joke" came from, since it was quite an embarrassing error when Ifound it |
| 17:56.54 | krka_ | i think you can declare wherever, in c99 |
| 17:56.59 | krka_ | and probably earlier |
| 17:57.09 | zenzelezz | I give sod all what people say about it, I like bitwise operations |
| 17:58.02 | Shirik|Ecole | krka_: No idea |
| 17:58.07 | Shirik|Ecole | but whatever compiler I'm using hated it |
| 17:58.10 | Shirik|Ecole | p.s. I hate the compiler |
| 17:58.15 | cog|work | system programming 4tw (re: bitwise) |
| 17:58.17 | Shirik|Ecole | but I'm extremely limited as it's a really strange box |
| 17:58.27 | Shirik|Ecole | for VxWorks |
| 17:58.35 | zenzelezz | I used to know a guy who was forced to use a Borland C++ compiler |
| 17:58.43 | zenzelezz | every so often he'd vent about how much it sucked |
| 17:58.59 | cog|work | I used to voluntarily use borland because it came with a book... |
| 17:59.01 | zenzelezz | one day the company's years-old log function, unmodified, decided to not work |
| 17:59.27 | zenzelezz | well, this guy used to go on about waiting for OpenWatcom or something |
| 17:59.45 | alestane | zenzelezz: Personally I have nothing against bitwise ops and used to use them...but the only programming I've done in several years has been WoW mods, so not so much right now. |
| 18:00.15 | cog|work | bitlib! |
| 18:00.17 | Shirik|Ecole | anyway, see you all later |
| 18:00.24 | Shirik|Ecole | I was just that pissed off that I had to vent somewhere :P |
| 18:00.30 | cog|work | bai |
| 18:00.37 | alestane | is bitlib even available within WoW? |
| 18:00.40 | Shirik|Ecole | yes |
| 18:00.47 | Shirik|Ecole | and I use it quite a bit :) |
| 18:01.07 | Shirik|Ecole | I should show you my 100 line comment explaining exactly how I packaged something |
| 18:01.10 | zenzelezz | it depends how you use them in my opinion... for things like file operation flags it'd be silly to add a million function parameters, and I don't like Windows' tendency to make you pass a struct all the time with the info (which still uses bit operations) |
| 18:01.45 | Shirik|Ecole | however, be careful |
| 18:01.53 | Shirik|Ecole | since Lua does not natively support bitwise operations, bitlib can be very slow |
| 18:02.06 | alestane | Or there was the Pascal style of bitpacking, which I don't believe C ever used because it had bitmasking. |
| 18:02.08 | Shirik|Ecole | in many cases it's better to use just numbers |
| 18:02.12 | zenzelezz | lua doesn't do bitwise stuff natively? |
| 18:02.16 | zenzelezz | outside of WoW I mean |
| 18:02.20 | Shirik|Ecole | negative |
| 18:02.20 | cog|work | zenzelezz: there are no ints |
| 18:02.43 | cog|work | so the floats have to be converted to ints, have the bitwise op, then converted back to floats |
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| 18:03.06 | zenzelezz | hm, my first encounter with lua was with some script for a program that parsed the Anarchy Online item DB, that one used bitwise operations... but I didn't understand lua at the time so I guess it used bitlib or something similar |
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| 18:07.00 | Valaron|Work | To make my mail server work again, I had to rip out one of its CPUs. |
| 18:07.19 | Valaron|Work | How's that for technical support? :) |
| 18:07.37 | zenzelezz | sometimes it's easier to think with less on your mind |
| 18:07.53 | Valaron|Work | True dat |
| 18:08.40 | sneg_ | thrae you here? |
| 18:09.26 | Lopeppeppy | Sometimes the satisfaction of scattering pieces of your server all over the floor leads to jumps in ingenuity and better solutions. <.< |
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| 18:09.55 | zenzelezz | peppy outsmarted me again :-( |
| 18:09.57 | Kaydeethree | meh, I'm a fan of putting screwdrivers through broken pieces of hardware |
| 18:09.58 | cog|work | I have often literally kicked my computer into submission |
| 18:10.13 | cog|work | percussive maintenance 4tw |
| 18:10.21 | alestane | Largo: 1; raid controller: 0 |
| 18:10.23 | zenzelezz | one of the fans in my computer occasionally starts making a special noise, which is easily solved by kicking the case |
| 18:10.36 | cog|work | zenzelezz: my coworker's does that |
| 18:10.55 | Kaydeethree | I'd say wd-40, but that's the wrong kind of lubricant for case fans |
| 18:11.27 | zenzelezz | sounds like an old Western Digital model |
| 18:11.37 | sneg_ | yea i was about to say that : ) |
| 18:13.58 | Lopeppeppy | I had one of the people in my raid group consult me for his overheating issues. He honestly asked me, "My dad has some Freon in the garage, should I just squirt some of that into my case?" |
| 18:14.18 | Industrial | try a sledgehammer! |
| 18:15.48 | alestane | The Ethan approach to cooling! |
| 18:15.58 | zenzelezz | haha |
| 18:16.17 | zenzelezz | like when he made that "super" computer some years ago that he claimed the penguin destroyed? |
| 18:16.31 | Kaydeethree | oh freon |
| 18:16.50 | Kaydeethree | we actually lost an academic building last month to the idiots not putting freon in the massive hvac system |
| 18:16.54 | zenzelezz | I sort of use freon in my computer... my fan has it inside the cooling element thing |
| 18:17.03 | Kaydeethree | pipes burst, took out half the building. they're gonna tear it down shortly |
| 18:17.11 | zenzelezz | ouch... |
| 18:17.37 | Valaron|Work | The big fuss is that this is a production server. Online should be close to 100%. |
| 18:18.00 | Valaron|Work | Screw Sun proprietary hardware :( |
| 18:18.16 | zenzelezz | I remember when my realm was taken down along with a bunch of others when the fans in the Frankfurt data center didn't cooperate |
| 18:18.37 | Lopeppeppy | Fans?!? In a data center?!?!!!! |
| 18:18.42 | Valaron|Work | :P |
| 18:18.43 | zenzelezz | well, something |
| 18:19.13 | zenzelezz | not CPU fans, but I think it was something about fans in the huge cooling system after some maintenance |
| 18:19.18 | Valaron|Work | We have one in our data center. The AC unit was not really good.. especially when new machines were added in the corner. |
| 18:19.26 | Valaron|Work | A fan fan |
| 18:19.29 | zenzelezz | at any rate it ran the risk of overheating quite badly |
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| 18:34.29 | Kaso | Steam is getting a really good range nowadays |
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| 18:45.43 | Cide | steam is a great content delivery platform |
| 18:46.16 | Beladona | lol |
| 18:50.05 | Kaso | * Mac Movie Capture - i wish windows had all the cool libs that mac osx has, then we could get these cool features, like png screenshots and this! |
| 18:50.09 | Lopeppeppy | My cat and I are playing a game today. I have a placemat under her food dishes to keep the carpet (somewhat) clean. She pushes her dishes off the mat and bunches it up in the hallway, then comes to tell me it's done. |
| 18:50.57 | alestane | Some people advocate a spritzer bottle for situations like that. |
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| 18:52.46 | krka_ | you mean cutting up the cat in small pieces and then stuffing it in the bottle and then serve it at a childrens party? |
| 18:52.56 | Shirik|Ecole | wtf |
| 18:53.10 | krka_ | or is that just how we do it here? |
| 18:53.56 | alestane | krka_: What Shirik said. |
| 18:54.24 | Cide | yup, perfectly normal treatment of cats in sweden |
| 18:54.32 | krka_ | great practical joke |
| 18:54.41 | krka_ | but you quickly run out of cats :/ |
| 18:54.45 | alestane | That would, indeed, cure his cough, but I don't think it would produce the desired result. |
| 18:55.03 | Kaydeethree | marginally nsfw, but very hilarious: http://www.break.com/index/im-a-fan-of-the-soap-knob.html |
| 18:56.03 | Thunder_Child | lol |
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| 18:57.12 | Cide | wonder if Cairenn would enjoy said soap knob... |
| 18:57.21 | Cairenn | o.O |
| 18:57.26 | Cide | <Kaydeethree> marginally nsfw, but very hilarious: http://www.break.com/index/im-a-fan-of-the-soap-knob.html |
| 18:58.40 | Cairenn | O.O |
| 18:58.55 | Kaydeethree | found that in general, by the way: http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=1531275449&sid=1 |
| 18:58.56 | Thunder_Child | that wasnt an answer Cairenn |
| 18:59.29 | Lopeppeppy | I think it was.... |
| 18:59.32 | Shirik|Ecole | That was a "omg I need one" |
| 18:59.44 | Cairenn | unh, no |
| 19:00.03 | Thunder_Child | thats rather interpretive of a emoticon |
| 19:00.14 | Shirik|Ecole | it is |
| 19:01.05 | Cide | she doesn't need one because she already... you know |
| 19:01.25 | Cairenn | *weg* |
| 19:01.28 | Thunder_Child | so... Cairenn, was that a "no, i dont want one" or a "no, i wouldnt enjoy it" |
| 19:02.31 | Lopeppeppy | Boys, think of the germs. Yuk. Hand sanitizer all the way. |
| 19:02.48 | Cairenn | Lopeppeppy: quite |
| 19:03.18 | Kaydeethree | but hand sanitizer causes super germs that are resistant to normal antibacterial stuff... |
| 19:03.35 | Shirik|Ecole | yes |
| 19:03.38 | Shirik|Ecole | hand sanitizer is evil |
| 19:03.39 | Lopeppeppy | However, it is much less phallic and would be my very own. |
| 19:03.43 | Shirik|Ecole | all antibiotic produts are |
| 19:03.51 | Shirik|Ecole | except when they're necessary |
| 19:04.00 | Shirik|Ecole | but imho there shouldn't be a single antibiotic product that's OTC |
| 19:04.45 | Lopeppeppy | Nor should there be shared soap in restrooms. |
| 19:06.41 | Shirik|Ecole | I would far rather have germs shared than have germs become more powerful |
| 19:06.56 | Kaso | If you want really clean sanitised hands, a nice Co-60 hand rub is what you need* |
| 19:06.57 | Shirik|Ecole | s/far/much/ |
| 19:07.07 | Kaso | *may cause cancer, burns, and loss of hands |
| 19:07.12 | Shirik|Ecole | lol |
| 19:07.23 | alestane | TB is becoming a serious problem in some parts of the world due to bad treatment methodologies. |
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| 19:08.55 | Lopeppeppy | Poor sanitation is equally to blame for the spread/persistence of other diseases. Humans kill ourselves in wonderful and diametrically opposite ways. |
| 19:09.29 | Kaydeethree | so we could always solve that with the "KILL ALL HUMANS!" technique |
| 19:10.12 | alestane | And while the emoticon above definitely had an "OMG" in it, I suspect it was more like this response (http://usrbinw00t.comicgenesis.com/d/20040712.html)...shock and amazement but not necessarily interest. |
| 19:12.12 | krka_ | from what i read about hand sanitizer on wikipedia, it seems kinda overkill :P |
| 19:12.23 | Lopeppeppy | You can be duly impressed, shocked and amazed without having the slightest interest in experiencing the shock for yourself. :P |
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| 19:14.00 | Shirik|Ecole | What's hperl? |
| 19:14.10 | Cide | hyper-perl |
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| 19:14.21 | Cide | kinda like hyper-ttp |
| 19:14.29 | Kaydeethree | wtf? |
| 19:14.56 | Shirik|Ecole | dunno |
| 19:15.03 | Shirik|Ecole | Just noticed all my school's pages are ending with .hperl |
| 19:15.19 | Cide | maybe some kind of perl web dev. framework? dunno |
| 19:15.21 | Shirik|Ecole | for example, the page I'm on right now |
| 19:15.30 | Shirik|Ecole | http://online.erau.edu/services/student/class_schedule.hperl |
| 19:15.52 | _Saint-N | woo 89 iron cross downloads since last night |
| 19:16.30 | Lopeppeppy | I found at least one page that's regular html. Maybe they're using Perl for database type things? |
| 19:17.14 | Shirik|Ecole | ok, I meant the services pages |
| 19:17.21 | Shirik|Ecole | which you wouldn't be able to access since you have to log into ERNIE anyway |
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| 19:19.52 | Lopeppeppy | There you go then. ERNIE must be a Perl snob. |
| 19:20.24 | Shirik|Ecole | =P |
| 19:20.27 | Shirik|Ecole | I hated it the day it came out |
| 19:20.34 | Shirik|Ecole | why the hell they came up with it I'll never know |
| 19:20.40 | Shirik|Ecole | maybe it makes them feel more useful |
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| 19:22.16 | Arrowmaster | my school uses this shitty Angel web software, its really bad but atleast its better than blackboard |
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| 19:22.38 | Shirik|Ecole | we used to have blackboard |
| 19:22.48 | Shirik|Ecole | that was _better_ than what we have now |
| 19:23.08 | Arrowmaster | ouch |
| 19:23.16 | Arrowmaster | that doesnt sound possible |
| 19:23.39 | Shirik|Ecole | I didn't think it was either |
| 19:23.43 | Shirik|Ecole | anyway, time for class /vanish |
| 19:30.32 | Cidan | The problem with Blackboard is the execs of the dev company that makes it are unwilling to change |
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| 19:30.49 | Cidan | They have this thing going on, if it's not broken don't fix it (or add new features) |
| 19:30.55 | Cidan | Knew someone that quit over it. |
| 19:33.38 | Lopeppeppy | There's something to be said for "if it's not broke", but there's great advantage in always seeking positive change. |
| 19:39.53 | Tem | it takes like 7 clicks for me to log into blackboard |
| 19:40.06 | Cidan | ah, not that bad for me |
| 19:40.07 | Tem | and then the front page once I log in is completely useless |
| 19:40.13 | Kaydeethree | oh wow... I'm amazed the "soap knob" thread in general hasn't been deleted yet |
| 19:40.27 | Cidan | link |
| 19:40.30 | Cidan | must linnkkk |
| 19:40.37 | Tem | so you have to click more to get to whatever you're after |
| 19:40.41 | Kaydeethree | [14:58:54] <Kaydeethree> found that in general, by the way: http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=1531275449&sid=1 |
| 19:43.02 | Cidan | Oh sweet jesus |
| 19:44.05 | Lopeppeppy | With cheese sauce, Cidan. |
| 19:44.16 | Cidan | Indeed. |
| 19:44.35 | Thunder_Child | cheese sause me arse |
| 19:45.07 | Lopeppeppy | NMK. |
| 19:45.33 | Cidan | Also |
| 19:45.38 | Cidan | She's obviously an expert. |
| 19:45.40 | Cidan | Look at her form. |
| 19:46.33 | Lopeppeppy | Hand model stood in for her during the filming. |
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| 20:04.04 | Nom- | lol i love this guild |
| 20:04.09 | Nom- | we just went and killed Doomwalker on a whim |
| 20:04.26 | Nom- | No prep, just went there after we were done in SSC for the night, first time ever and got him on the second try |
| 20:04.29 | Nom- | 17% on the first try |
| 20:04.46 | AnduinLothar | wtb your guild |
| 20:05.12 | Kaydeethree | not like doomwalker's all that hard if everyone in the raid's got >8k hp |
| 20:07.18 | Nom- | indeed |
| 20:07.33 | Nom- | only reason we didn't get him the first time was because the tanks weren't ready for his 10k hits |
| 20:11.14 | Nom- | its a nice buff to our wowjutsu stats anyway :D |
| 20:13.12 | Nom- | this weeks' SSC kills should push us up to #11 on our server :D |
| 20:13.48 | Kaso | Heh, Clad's GC thread/addon is just on WoWInsider |
| 20:14.01 | clad|book | oh lord |
| 20:14.06 | nevcairiel | that was quick |
| 20:14.18 | nevcairiel | they tend to lag behind like 2 weeks in general |
| 20:17.49 | clad|book | anyone know of a unix based script that can detect flesh tones in an image? |
| 20:17.59 | clad|book | or is that still too patent-happy |
| 20:18.10 | Nom- | hmmm |
| 20:18.15 | Nom- | Dansguardian was working on that a long time ago |
| 20:18.25 | Nom- | Don't know if it ever came to fruition |
| 20:19.32 | Nom- | nope doesn't look like it |
| 20:20.24 | clad|book | imagemagick should do it for me |
| 20:20.44 | clad|book | like /usr/bin/zomgisporn myimage.png |
| 20:20.52 | Nom- | lol |
| 20:21.06 | Nom- | it's difficult to do though |
| 20:21.15 | Nom- | Given the wide range of flesh colours |
| 20:21.43 | Nom- | Then you have to look at things like setting thresholds |
| 20:22.14 | cog|work | B&W porn 4tw |
| 20:22.33 | Nom- | You (probably) don't want to block a picture of president bush running in the park (or maybe you do - ugh!) |
| 20:22.48 | Nom- | ascii prot |
| 20:22.50 | Nom- | pron |
| 20:22.58 | clad|book | Nom-: yeah in this case i would |
| 20:23.04 | clad|book | i'm concerned about images.gammatester.com |
| 20:23.07 | clad|book | since anyone can post anything |
| 20:23.42 | Nom- | fair enough |
| 20:23.47 | Nom- | It's pretty hard to do |
| 20:23.55 | clad|book | they post something inappropriate, and I can be held responsible for it |
| 20:24.00 | clad|book | which makes me want to take it down entirely |
| 20:24.10 | Nom- | disclaimer ftw ? |
| 20:24.16 | clad|book | i'm not a laywer :P |
| 20:24.29 | Nom- | copy and paste from other image sites |
| 20:24.43 | Nom- | heck even the one on the wow forums is pretty much all inclusive |
| 20:25.31 | Nom- | Before you allow anyone to view an image on the site ( at least for the first time - cookies ftw ) you display a disclaimer along the lines of "the site owner does not take responsibility for the images uploaded by users to this site" blah blah |
| 20:25.50 | Nom- | It's never bullet proof, but at least if someone had to click 'I Agree' before getting to a page |
| 20:26.00 | clad|book | i can say from experience, that's definitely not bullet proof :P |
| 20:26.16 | Nom- | Right now you're a naked priest running head first at Onyxia |
| 20:26.29 | zenzelezz | the solution is obvious, get a server in mid-Pacific or something! |
| 20:26.32 | clad|book | and when talking about something as illegal and horrible as we're talking about.. nothing can really protect you |
| 20:26.35 | Nom- | And a disclaimer is at least a PW:S |
| 20:26.43 | clad|book | pastamancer: cron job that deletes each image after five minutes |
| 20:26.53 | Nom- | User reporting of images helps too |
| 20:27.09 | Nom- | A user can mark the image as imappropriate and you can automatically remove after X reports |
| 20:27.42 | Nom- | At least that way it'll increase the likelyhood of stuff being removed that shouldn't be there |
| 20:27.52 | clad|book | yeah, its just a stock script up there right now |
| 20:27.56 | clad|book | i could also just have it email me and moderate |
| 20:28.02 | clad|book | but that's relatively limited use, and scales horribly :P |
| 20:28.03 | Nom- | That too |
| 20:28.30 | Nom- | User reporting + linking of multiple images to a single uploader ftw |
| 20:29.12 | Nom- | Logging helps a lot too |
| 20:29.40 | Nom- | being able to track back an uploaded image as having come from ip X at date/time Y will go a long way towards reducing your liability |
| 20:29.46 | clad|book | indeed |
| 20:29.50 | clad|book | maybe i'll play with the script |
| 20:29.52 | clad|book | add some features |
| 20:29.58 | clad|book | and delete eveything from pastamancer for the time being :P |
| 20:30.03 | Nom- | well, not so much liability, but at least you can say they uploaded it to you without your knowledge |
| 20:30.16 | clad|book | i just like having a VERY simple image uploading site for images |
| 20:30.23 | clad|book | we all use it so much, and imageshack blows monkey nuts |
| 20:30.30 | Nom- | Agreed :) |
| 20:30.54 | pastamancer | clad|book: could also limit referers |
| 20:30.55 | Nom- | Making sure images are only available by direct link will help too |
| 20:31.17 | Nom- | That is, don't have an option to browse images for end-users |
| 20:31.25 | clad|book | there isn't right now |
| 20:31.29 | clad|book | they have to direct link |
| 20:31.33 | Nom- | That way only the author knows the link, so if it's used anywhere, then ya |
| 20:31.36 | Nom- | Ya, that's good |
| 20:31.41 | clad|book | it just md5 hashes the file, and gives you that as the only link |
| 20:31.44 | clad|book | very simple, effective |
| 20:32.01 | clad|book | i shut down the files.gammatester.com upload script, and now only I can post stuff there |
| 20:32.06 | clad|book | but its a single bash command for me to do tha t:P |
| 20:32.09 | clad|book | upload <filename> |
| 20:32.11 | Nom- | heh |
| 20:36.20 | Nom- | *ponder* |
| 20:36.42 | Nom- | I should probably go to bed, but I really want to keep playing WoW |
| 20:37.07 | foxlit|mac | play wow from bed |
| 20:37.21 | Nom- | My laptop is too slow to do that |
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| 20:38.36 | AnduinLothar | get a bigger screen |
| 20:38.47 | AnduinLothar | and a cordless keyboard/mouse |
| 20:39.45 | Nom- | lol my bed is 3 rooms down the hall |
| 20:39.47 | Nom- | :) |
| 20:40.02 | zenzelezz | I find your lack of faith disturbing |
| 20:40.42 | [dRaCo] | guess you need a really big monitor, then. |
| 20:40.59 | Nom- | and a few mirrors to redirect the image |
| 20:41.10 | zenzelezz | just a long cable for the monitor |
| 20:41.39 | clad|book | srsly, get inventive nub |
| 20:42.50 | Nom- | Well, they're all good ideas |
| 20:42.58 | foxlit|mac | ceiling projector! |
| 20:43.00 | Nom- | But impossible to impliment at 4:41am |
| 20:43.17 | Nom- | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:43.18 | Nom- | I have 33,070 gold |
| 20:43.24 | Nom- | *cry* i want that much gold :( |
| 20:43.59 | Nom- | How on earth do you make that kind of gold ? :( |
| 20:44.18 | nevcairiel | you cheat |
| 20:44.37 | Kaydeethree | play the AH |
| 20:44.39 | Kaydeethree | it's not that hard |
| 20:44.48 | Kaydeethree | I've seen screenshots of players with well over 100k gold |
| 20:45.00 | Nom- | Yeah, I just suck at it |
| 20:45.18 | foxlit|mac | I just don't care |
| 20:45.19 | Nom- | And my starting gold is so low that I can't actually do it |
| 20:45.20 | Nom- | I dunno |
| 20:51.30 | Kaso | http://img.waffleimages.com/2b79bf77e7ff2879870d6a512bb36056c5567991/cash.jpg |
| 20:51.42 | Kaso | One day of Auction House playing for this guy |
| 20:52.03 | Nom- | wow |
| 20:52.19 | Kaso | "I'm quiting WoW today, after 3 level 70s, 8 level 60s and over 1,000,000 in gold invested into various auction houses. I figure, if I am leaving, I might as well leave some advice to goons to help them pick up the slack." |
| 20:52.34 | Kaso | His claims ofc, but to be honest i dont doubt him |
| 20:54.35 | clad|book | heh |
| 20:57.16 | Kaso | I wonder what data type is used to represent gold, maybe an unsigned 32bit int? quick someone get 4.3 billion gold and see if it ticks over to 0! |
| 20:57.43 | zenzelezz | someone mentioned a bug at 214k the other day |
| 20:57.52 | cog|work | Kaso: it's measured in copper probably |
| 20:57.55 | zenzelezz | the money is stores a copper value |
| 20:57.58 | zenzelezz | *stored |
| 20:58.01 | Kaso | that make sense |
| 20:58.38 | cog|work | so you'd need 429.5k gold |
| 20:58.46 | cog|work | to overflow 32-bit |
| 20:58.59 | Kaso | doesnt sound too hard to do, better get grinding! |
| 20:59.00 | zenzelezz | according to what the person said it's a signed value, unless the person he was talking about lied |
| 20:59.09 | Kaso | why would it be signed though? |
| 20:59.22 | zenzelezz | don't know, I'm just relaying what I heard |
| 20:59.25 | Kaso | hmm |
| 20:59.37 | kergoth | Kaso: there you go thinking blizzard makes sense, again. tisk. |
| 20:59.41 | kergoth | :P |
| 20:59.47 | Kaso | hah |
| 21:00.15 | zenzelezz | Sep 08 13:04:16 <Polarina> Haha... One managed to find a bug in the game where gold is disappearing when you go over 2^32 / 2 - 1 coppers! :P |
| 21:00.59 | Lin_ | OMG! |
| 21:01.35 | Kaso | Prob just lazy programmers using signed without thinking about it well |
| 21:01.38 | nevcairiel | that would suck, you would end up with basicly .. negative gold ? :P |
| 21:01.42 | Lin_ | signed int |
| 21:01.50 | Lin_ | -1 gold |
| 21:01.50 | Shirik | woot |
| 21:01.52 | Shirik | no |
| 21:01.53 | Lin_ | -1 cooper |
| 21:02.36 | zenzelezz | usually integers are signed unless otherwise specified |
| 21:02.36 | Shirik | you would end up with -400k (approx) gold when it ticks over |
| 21:02.36 | Shirik | (assuming signed) |
| 21:02.51 | Shirik | specifically because it's the absence of a specification |
| 21:03.06 | Lin_ | why gold should be signed: |
| 21:03.09 | Lin_ | ? |
| 21:03.27 | nevcairiel | it shouldnt |
| 21:03.35 | nevcairiel | probably an oversight |
| 21:03.35 | Lin_ | there isn't debt in this game. and who is the luck/unluck guy that have discovered this bug? |
| 21:03.39 | Shirik | it shouldn't |
| 21:03.43 | Shirik | But I'm just saying |
| 21:03.54 | Shirik | if we follow the lines given above in the conversation |
| 21:03.58 | Shirik | (assumes it were signed) |
| 21:04.04 | Shirik | It would tick over to -400k gold |
| 21:04.15 | nevcairiel | wouldnt it be -200k? |
| 21:04.15 | foxlit|mac | store it as a bleeding string already |
| 21:04.21 | Shirik | wtf |
| 21:04.25 | Shirik | this isn't VB |
| 21:04.33 | Shirik | (actually I have no idea how VB data types work) |
| 21:04.36 | zenzelezz | nevcairiel: yes |
| 21:04.38 | Shirik | But no! |
| 21:04.44 | foxlit|mac | That depends on which version of vb |
| 21:04.45 | Shirik | nevcairiel: Yes sorry |
| 21:04.46 | nevcairiel | VB has datatypes? |
| 21:04.53 | Shirik | I don't know, I don't know the first thing about VB other than it sucks |
| 21:04.55 | zenzelezz | Dim i As Integer |
| 21:04.58 | nevcairiel | isnt everything a variant? |
| 21:05.01 | nevcairiel | hrm |
| 21:05.05 | foxlit|mac | Integer is 2-byte signed |
| 21:05.12 | zenzelezz | in VB, yes |
| 21:05.18 | foxlit|mac | Variant can store anything |
| 21:05.30 | foxlit|mac | But all other types are not Variant |
| 21:05.39 | nevcairiel | i havent used VB for like 10 years |
| 21:05.46 | nevcairiel | and i am happy about it |
| 21:05.50 | cog|work | it's always had types |
| 21:05.55 | foxlit|mac | .net integer is probably a 4-byte signed |
| 21:07.22 | zenzelezz | I remember how my Undo feature worked in my first VB program |
| 21:07.47 | Nom- | So about playing the AH though, I understand the idea.. buy everything out and jack up the price, but where do you start... to do something like netherweave you'd need a heck of a lot of gold on my server |
| 21:07.48 | zenzelezz | Dim oldstring As String; Dim newstring As String; If oldstring <> newstring Then ... |
| 21:08.01 | Shirik | lol <> |
| 21:08.04 | Shirik | I remember that |
| 21:08.34 | nevcairiel | i hate <> .. pascal uses it too .. had to use pascal/delphi in university last semester :x |
| 21:08.40 | Shirik | I still hate C |
| 21:08.42 | Shirik | for what it did to me today |
| 21:08.50 | Shirik | I want to go back to C++ :( |
| 21:08.51 | zenzelezz | that's not C, that's your compiler |
| 21:08.55 | foxlit|mac | At least "shoo" = "shoo" |
| 21:08.56 | Shirik | Well I hate my compiler then |
| 21:08.59 | foxlit|mac | Unlike java. |
| 21:09.00 | zenzelezz | but I do support the C++ statement |
| 21:09.06 | Shirik | foxlit|mac: That's stupid too :P: |
| 21:09.16 | kergoth | i wish i'd never touched basic |
| 21:09.22 | foxlit|mac | Strings should be compared by value, dammit! |
| 21:09.22 | zenzelezz | VB's hex syntax pwned |
| 21:09.28 | zenzelezz | &H........& |
| 21:09.29 | Shirik | I'll say what I've said millions of time which is my reason for hating Lua's ^ operator |
| 21:09.49 | Shirik | And it's only a personal opinion, but keywords and operations should only be what is native to the processor |
| 21:09.52 | foxlit|mac | pow? |
| 21:09.53 | Shirik | anything else should be a function |
| 21:09.57 | Shirik | math.pow is fine, ^ is not |
| 21:10.07 | foxlit|mac | meh! |
| 21:10.22 | cog|work | Shirik: the whole point of a language is to abstract the underlying architecture |
| 21:10.24 | Shirik | For the same reason I hate comparing strings with == |
| 21:10.33 | Shirik | I know, but that doesn't mean it should be completely ignored |
| 21:10.47 | Shirik | In fact, that's probably the #1 reason of bad programmers: They don't understand the internal workings of what they're doing |
| 21:10.49 | cog|work | what if a language is designed for an architecture that DOES support said functions? |
| 21:11.01 | Shirik | Lua isn't :P |
| 21:11.03 | cog|work | isn't ^ implemented in hardware on the FPU? |
| 21:11.05 | nevcairiel | at least you wont miss your strcmp then, when jumping back from another lang where strings compare by value :P |
| 21:11.08 | cog|work | Shirik: yes it is |
| 21:11.10 | cog|work | the lua VM |
| 21:11.17 | Shirik | bleh |
| 21:11.20 | Shirik | fine |
| 21:11.32 | Shirik | But WRT the FPU question, on the chips I work with, no |
| 21:11.33 | kergoth | as cog says, what functions exist are completely dependent upon the arch you're using, and lua is portable to just about anything |
| 21:11.43 | Shirik | but as I said |
| 21:11.47 | Shirik | 14(1711:0811:4414) 14(11Shirik14) And it's only a personal opinion, |
| 21:11.49 | cog|work | so you propose the language should be different depending on the architecture? |
| 21:11.50 | cog|work | :P |
| 21:11.53 | cog|work | l2asmimo |
| 21:11.54 | Shirik | negative |
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| 21:12.01 | nevcairiel | adaptive languages! |
| 21:12.02 | zenzelezz | my main gripe with programming these days is ASCII vs. Unicode/wide characters |
| 21:12.09 | Shirik | I propose the language should be similar to the way computing works in general |
| 21:12.29 | Shirik | every processor will be able to multiply these days (for the most part, nobody uses the 8086 anymore). |
| 21:12.37 | Shirik | Even microcontrollers do that now |
| 21:12.53 | Kaydeethree | 8086... what are we? the 80s? |
| 21:12.57 | cog|work | "get off my lawn" imo :P |
| 21:13.05 | kergoth | you shouldnt make assumptions about the capabilities of the processor yiou're running on, thats the compiler's job |
| 21:13.18 | zenzelezz | I don't quite understand how "get off my lawn" applies here |
| 21:13.22 | Shirik | In fact, correct me if I'm wrong |
| 21:13.30 | Shirik | The C library doesn't even implement pow() using an asm instruction |
| 21:13.33 | Shirik | I'm going to go check actually |
| 21:13.55 | zenzelezz | isn't that just up to the implementor? |
| 21:14.08 | Shirik | it is |
| 21:14.38 | Shirik | However it does go back to my point. Multiply will never be implemented using a function. Powers might need to be. |
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| 21:14.59 | cog|work | Shirik: that's completely arbitrary |
| 21:15.09 | kergoth | i dont see why you feel a need to define aspects of the language based on what cpus we happen to be using right now. |
| 21:15.12 | Shirik | eh, whatever. This is a pointless argument. And this is why I started it all with... |
| 21:15.13 | Shirik | 14(1711:0811:4414) 14(11Shirik14) And it's only a personal opinion, |
| 21:15.29 | cog|work | and we disagree and are trying to change your opinion :P |
| 21:15.38 | Shirik | and I won't, so I would suggest stop trying to |
| 21:15.54 | Shirik | I'm not going to change the language either, I don't exactly have that kind of leverage |
| 21:16.01 | kergoth | its okay, shirik just wants to keep changing the language every few years, as processor capabilities evolve |
| 21:16.02 | kergoth | :P |
| 21:17.37 | Shirik | processors' mathematical capabilities have not greatly been extended over the years |
| 21:17.45 | Shirik | they have been improved, yes |
| 21:18.09 | Shirik | But yet in most processors and in all microcontrollers, the power capability is absent |
| 21:18.30 | cog|work | I just think since the whole point of a language is to abstract the underlying operations, it is counterproductive to tie hardware features to language constructs so arbitrarily |
| 21:18.44 | kergoth | Assuming they won't, when you want a language to last, is just silly. build the capabilities based on needs, not what you happen to use it on |
| 21:18.44 | Shirik | abstract, yes, ignore no |
| 21:18.51 | Shirik | But... I'm not going into this any further |
| 21:19.48 | cog|work | Shirik: none of us have asked you the most important question though... :( |
| 21:20.02 | cog|work | what do you feel is gained by such a system? |
| 21:21.07 | cog|work | over current languages |
| 21:21.22 | Shirik | "Over current languages" |
| 21:21.29 | Shirik | This implementation already exists in C/C++ |
| 21:21.41 | Shirik | there is no ^ operator (well, there is... it's bitwise NOT) |
| 21:21.51 | Kaydeethree | "**" |
| 21:22.10 | Shirik | ? |
| 21:22.15 | Kaydeethree | try using ** |
| 21:22.18 | cog|work | I have never seen it stated as a fundamental design goal by the implementors of C... Though in actuality the original C was designed with a specific architecture in mind |
| 21:22.33 | Kaydeethree | that was the original power operator before ^ came |
| 21:22.37 | Shirik | I've never heard of such an operator, and I honestly don't see how it could work. But I'm going to check it anyway |
| 21:22.43 | Shirik | that could easily be confused with a lot of other cases though |
| 21:23.00 | Kaydeethree | $ echo $((2**3)) |
| 21:23.00 | Kaydeethree | 8 |
| 21:23.01 | foxlit|mac | older calculators, too |
| 21:23.16 | cog|work | Kaydeethree: not sure that's material to the current convo |
| 21:24.02 | Shirik | http://www.difranco.net/cop2220/op-prec.htm |
| 21:24.08 | Shirik | list of all operators; I will assume it does not exist |
| 21:24.21 | zenzelezz | ** for pow() in C/C++ would be too confusing, considering pointers |
| 21:24.27 | Shirik | And honestly I think the problem with ** would be confused with indirection |
| 21:24.28 | Shirik | yes |
| 21:25.22 | cog|work | Shirik: you still didn't address my question... you only dodged it by attacking my choice of comparison :P |
| 21:25.48 | cog|work | what advantage would a language with an operator-cpu link have over one that is more abstract? |
| 21:25.49 | Shirik | No I dodged it by saying the question is irrelevant |
| 21:26.03 | Shirik | There is nothing to gain because it already exists |
| 21:26.21 | cog|work | sizeof... |
| 21:26.24 | cog|work | ?: |
| 21:26.46 | cog|work | you're still arguing the semantics of my question... :( |
| 21:26.56 | Shirik | sizeof is handled by the compiler internally and ?: is a shorthand for an if..then construct |
| 21:27.09 | Shirik | if..then goes into branching |
| 21:27.29 | Shirik | But to be perfectly honest, I don't want to answer your question |
| 21:27.30 | cog|work | You feel that a language's operators "should" only represent CPU capabilities. |
| 21:27.34 | Shirik | I already said I want to drop the subject |
| 21:27.42 | cog|work | :( |
| 21:28.03 | cog|work | I'm genuinely curious and am only being aggressive because it's the only question i really want to hear the answer to |
| 21:28.16 | bleeter | Kaydeethree: wow, this vandamn guy is quite an idiot (in the CS forum) |
| 21:28.38 | Kaydeethree | ya, that's been a fun thread to watch |
| 21:28.41 | Shirik | What is there to gain? Nothing except simplicity. It provides a better link to the hardware. C did this very well -- programmers are very close to the hardware. |
| 21:28.44 | kergoth | i don't really see what the issue is between something implemented as an operator and a function. half the time operations in functions in the c library get optimized to processor specific shit anyway |
| 21:28.52 | Shirik | It's difficult to code (well) in C without knowing exactly what's going on |
| 21:28.56 | kergoth | how does moving pow from operator to function make something simpler? |
| 21:28.58 | bleeter | Kaydeethree: In the GM Island? thread, he's discussing hacks on how to get there :/ |
| 21:29.13 | cog|work | Shirik: i will hold back my response out of respect for your desire to drop it |
| 21:29.34 | Shirik | kergoth: It makes the /language/ simpler, not the process |
| 21:29.48 | Shirik | The compiler no longer needs to parse it and figure out how to handle it. It merely knows to call a function, that's it |
| 21:29.55 | Shirik | If you want to implement that function with some asm commands, by all means go ahead |
| 21:29.58 | Shirik | and C allows you to do that |
| 21:30.23 | Shirik | and seriously, no more |
| 21:31.02 | kergoth | If the language creators decided to do some extra work for you, i don't see why you'd presume to know better. |
| 21:31.08 | kergoth | but anyway.. |
| 21:31.21 | cog|work | I liked the discussion... |
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| 21:31.24 | Nom- | Any suggestions on where I could start in terms of market manipulation? I can only really spare 200g to start up :( |
| 21:31.37 | Shirik|AFK | cog|work: When it's 1v10, try being on the 1 side, then like it |
| 21:31.38 | cog|work | we weren't going around in circles so i feel like i had a sneeze that didn't fully manifest itself right now |
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| 21:31.49 | kergoth | i'd say start small, buy low sell high, cant control any markets with that little bankroll |
| 21:31.50 | Lin_ | 214748g36s48c Nom- start here |
| 21:31.51 | kergoth | but i'm no expert |
| 21:31.56 | Shirik|AFK | Lin_ haha |
| 21:32.02 | zenzelezz | Nom-: I've never done it myself, but I would say go for something cheap but often used |
| 21:32.23 | zenzelezz | friend of mine ran a Free Action Potion monopoly on one server every WSG weekend last summer |
| 21:32.44 | kergoth | auctioneer is your friend |
| 21:32.50 | cog|work | when we start recycling arguments is when I start not liking a discussion... even when i'm outnumbered :P |
| 21:32.51 | Lin_ | i|=0x7FFFFFFF; // (latest signed int) |
| 21:33.17 | Nom- | I've heard of a few people making massive amounts of gold on alchemy |
| 21:33.20 | Nom- | anyone done that themselves ? |
| 21:33.38 | Lin_ | Nom-: find a real good job. and buy gold from sites. |
| 21:33.42 | Lin_ | ;-) |
| 21:33.44 | clad|book | lol |
| 21:33.53 | Nom- | lol that's the last thing i want to do |
| 21:34.03 | bleeter | oO are we gunna have a kicking? |
| 21:34.04 | Nom- | I've thought about it a few times, but the prices on that are so high |
| 21:34.20 | Lin_ | Nom-: be CEO from microsoft |
| 21:34.27 | Shirik|AFK | cog|work: I don't care if I'm outnumbered. I prefer to be outnumbered, in fact. But when I'm the only one who sees one side of the argument, and the responses that are coming are 14(1711:1711:3914) 14(1115kergoth14) ... is just silly. build the capabilities based on needs, |
| 21:34.31 | Shirik|AFK | I don't see the point of continuing |
| 21:34.34 | Lin_ | Nom-: or try to seduce Bliz Director |
| 21:35.06 | bleeter | Nom-: the auctioneer wiki does have a pretty good writeup from Slott Industries on how to 'drive' the AH |
| 21:35.55 | bleeter | tho personally, driving the AH can become a compelte time sink in itself, taking one away from playing every other aspect of the game. I make about 100g a week merely from buying the stuff that people list at under Vendor value |
| 21:36.20 | bleeter | the only stuff I list is my excess herbage, and when I have the mats I craft out quest items |
| 21:36.21 | Lin_ | bleeter: that is true. |
| 21:36.45 | Shirik|AFK | bleeter: wtf? |
| 21:36.47 | Shirik|AFK | People do that? |
| 21:36.59 | Lin_ | put itens under vendor value? |
| 21:37.02 | Lin_ | very often. |
| 21:37.05 | bleeter | all the time |
| 21:37.20 | Lin_ | auctioneer and BTMscanner |
| 21:37.21 | kergoth | Shirik|AFK: bottomscanner will pick those up |
| 21:37.21 | Kaydeethree | bottomscanner can if memory serves |
| 21:37.26 | Nom- | heh... i need to learn somehow, i need like 2k gold to finish blacksmithing |
| 21:37.30 | Shirik|AFK | I tried using bottomscanner yesterday |
| 21:37.31 | Shirik|AFK | it confused me |
| 21:37.38 | Lin_ | Shirik|AFK: oh.. its so easy |
| 21:37.39 | Shirik|AFK | I pushed the play button and it said it was doing something |
| 21:37.40 | bleeter | wicked claws, bandages, gorilla fangs/hair, knothide scraps, golden pearls, spider silks |
| 21:37.45 | Lin_ | just play let it go |
| 21:37.45 | Shirik|AFK | I waited a few minutes and then it just sat there |
| 21:37.50 | kergoth | just hit play, it periodically refreshes the last page of the auction house and lets you know about deals |
| 21:37.51 | bleeter | what goes under vendor price is fairly common across all realms |
| 21:37.51 | Shirik|AFK | so I gave up |
| 21:37.59 | Lin_ | Shirik|AFK: I can help thee. if you want |
| 21:38.08 | Shirik|AFK | I didn't even know what it was supposed to do >< |
| 21:38.08 | kergoth | since it monitors the last page of teh ah only, you're picking up only new postings, so do it when the ah is most active |
| 21:38.11 | bleeter | lol |
| 21:38.22 | bleeter | 'I pushed a button, without reading the docs, it didn't do anything so I gave up' |
| 21:38.33 | Shirik|AFK | yup |
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| 21:38.39 | foxlit|mac | modern user philosophy, deal with it |
| 21:38.41 | bleeter | ~whaleslap Shirik|AFK |
| 21:38.42 | purl | ACTION beats Shirik|AFK upside and over the head with a freakishly huge killer whale named Hugh |
| 21:38.42 | Shirik|AFK | I try to "be one" with the users |
| 21:38.48 | Lin_ | lol |
| 21:38.49 | Shirik|AFK | so I can code my applications to work for them |
| 21:39.00 | Lin_ | you code dummy applications |
| 21:39.04 | Lin_ | ;-) |
| 21:39.45 | Shirik|AFK | Honestly though, I had only used auctioneer before, never bottomscanner |
| 21:39.54 | Shirik|AFK | it was there and I was bored so I was like one of those moments "what does this button do?" |
| 21:40.01 | Shirik|AFK | And it did nothing. So I went back to what I normally do :P |
| 21:40.09 | bleeter | thing is, though, tends to help if you're the first on your realm going for under vendor value - nothing worse for an under vendor checker to see themselves being outbid on 50+ items, they tend to just give up |
| 21:40.35 | bleeter | tho I am slowly working on a module for AAdv that'll attempt to assemble a list of items one's been outbid on, so you can then go back and easily re-bid |
| 21:41.13 | kergoth | thatd be neat |
| 21:41.21 | kergoth | you know if anyone's doing a shopping list type module for aadv yet? |
| 21:41.52 | bleeter | it's not going to be totally accurate, as it's pretty hard to ascertain which specific item you've been outbid on (ie, item + vendor) |
| 21:42.19 | bleeter | but it'll be good enough to achieve it's aim (not get outbid, then the item expires meaning you lose out) |
| 21:42.26 | Lin_ | bleeter: there is some bots (yes botS), they put a little bid and no buyout. You do your bid, but if bid didn't satisfy the "vendor" little seconds befor end of auction it close the auction and start another with fresh values. There is a little variation in this setup when someone put a little bid and a INSANE buyout as 999g |
| 21:42.42 | Lin_ | Im really pissed off with theses vendors |
| 21:43.35 | bleeter | yes, well posting an individual auction doesn't require a h/w event, like bid/buyout |
| 21:43.49 | bleeter | which is why that can be botted |
| 21:44.23 | Lin_ | with sure they are those damn gold farmers, exploring WoW resources. |
| 21:44.23 | Kaydeethree | speaking of h/w events... nearly a year later I'm still pining for the good ol' days of fully-automated water dispensing... |
| 21:44.47 | bleeter | Kaydeethree: 2.3 or 2.4 fountains/muffin factories? |
| 21:45.02 | Kaydeethree | it'd be nice, I don't see it happening |
| 21:45.19 | bleeter | coulda sworn I heard someone mention that it was said @ Blizzcon they were gunna do that |
| 21:45.34 | bleeter | gah, time for Uni... cyaz |
| 21:45.42 | foxlit|mac | back in my days, we summoned level 60 water in bunches of 2, and we _liked_ it! |
| 21:46.00 | bleeter | oh, if anyone can post an answer to http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=1531085656&sid=1 it'd be appreciated :) |
| 21:46.03 | bleeter | ciaos! |
| 21:46.12 | Kaydeethree | foxlit|mac, diaf |
| 21:46.41 | Thunder_Child | bleeter, yes they are....dunno when though...before exp |
| 21:47.35 | foxlit|mac | well, I could actually say "Back n my days, we had no level-appropriate water to summon, and we _liked_ it.", but somehow that isn't quite as good |
| 21:47.50 | Thunder_Child | Kaydeethree, they even described the food thing...where it will look like a feast on a table etc. |
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| 21:48.07 | Kaydeethree | I missed that... class discussion day 1? |
| 21:48.33 | Thunder_Child | i dont remember which one, but it was from the QA part |
| 21:48.52 | Thunder_Child | might have been...i was there for that one |
| 21:49.01 | foxlit|mac | You sure that wasn't the picking table TCG reward presentation? |
| 21:49.03 | Kaydeethree | it must've... I sat in for 2 |
| 21:49.55 | Thunder_Child | hopefully they will do 2 stacks/click |
| 21:50.06 | Thunder_Child | sinec thats standard for handouts |
| 21:50.08 | Thunder_Child | since* |
| 21:50.13 | foxlit|mac | *picnic |
| 21:50.31 | Thunder_Child | yes foxlit|mac |
| 21:50.35 | Thunder_Child | i am sure |
| 21:54.41 | Saint-N | hahah go google for hello kitty ;P |
| 21:55.04 | Saint-N | go go gadget google love of wowi ;P |
| 21:55.52 | Kaydeethree | hm? not in the first page of results for me |
| 21:56.08 | Thunder_Child | http://gizmodo.com/gadgets/horrors/hello-kitty-microwave-is-your-worst-nightmare-298167.php |
| 21:56.19 | Thunder_Child | carefull..someone may beat you to the UI |
| 21:57.10 | Saint-N | oh wait just noticed that i did a "hello kitty warcraft" |
| 21:57.18 | Saint-N | thats too bad now ;) |
| 21:57.40 | Saint-N | http://www.nytimes.com/2007/08/07/world/asia/07cnd-thai.html?ex=1189569600&en=19889eb0dbbc6038&ei=5070 |
| 22:02.23 | Thunder_Child | huh....ironman trailer looks good |
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| 22:03.51 | Kaso | it looks very good |
| 22:04.06 | Nom- | hmmm this is wierd... auctioneer is insisting on using its auto price as the market value instead of 2% lower than the highest on there at the moment |
| 22:04.12 | Nom- | I wonder how much gold this has cost me :( |
| 22:04.18 | Nom- | er lowest on there i mean |
| 22:05.39 | Nom- | ah it basing the price off stacks, when the singles are more pricy atm |
| 22:05.41 | Nom- | bleh |
| 22:05.49 | cog|work | Hello Kitteh http://gizmodo.com/assets/resources/2007/07/sadkitty.jpg |
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| 22:18.38 | |Jelly| | !c us burning legion broxis |
| 22:18.40 | ThraeBot | |Jelly|: Broxis, Level 70 Orc Warrior (35/23/3). 11484 HP; 10066 Armour; 1470 AP; 234.7 Melee DPS; 32.3% melee crit; 66 melee hit; 6.82% dodge; 5% block; 312 resilience;[[ TBR: 1442 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/288hpz ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/33z7uh ][ Updated: Mon Sep 10 18:30:57 2007 ]] |
| 22:25.44 | Shirik|AFK | !vs us burning legion broxis us drenden kimina |
| 22:25.47 | ThraeBot | Shirik|AFK: Broxis vs Kimina! A L70 warrior and a L70 priest square off!; 35/23/3 vs 23/38/0; Broxis wins by 554 TBRs! ***OWNED!*** |
| 22:25.49 | Shirik|AFK | =( |
| 22:25.52 | Shirik|AFK | I saw that one coming |
| 22:26.13 | Nom- | hmm you guys reckon it's worth switching my alchemist to transmute ? |
| 22:26.27 | Nom- | can you make any kind of living off transmute procs? :/ |
| 22:26.27 | Cide | no |
| 22:26.31 | Cide | no |
| 22:27.09 | clad|book | lol at the raid on draka that's been up since, like, 1.6 |
| 22:27.29 | Nom- | So where's the alchemy money at? just flasks ? |
| 22:27.59 | Shirik|AFK | and pots |
| 22:28.13 | Shirik|AFK | priests who aren't alchemy will pay a fortune in mana pots |
| 22:28.23 | clad|book | unless they send to their guildmates |
| 22:28.23 | clad|book | nub |
| 22:28.35 | Nom- | yeah, but unless i find the mats myself, it doesn't seem to have any money |
| 22:28.37 | Shirik|AFK | guilds don't help each other |
| 22:28.38 | Shirik|AFK | don't lie |
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| 22:29.04 | Nom- | Or do you really have to rely 100% on procs to make money from the pots market |
| 22:29.26 | Nom- | The way our server economy is going, the mana pots sell for about 15% less than the price of the mats |
| 22:29.56 | AnduinLothar | that's typical |
| 22:30.43 | Cide | elixir spec -> flasks |
| 22:30.46 | AnduinLothar | the onyl crafted markes I know of are made by either discovering a deficite or creating one |
| 22:30.53 | AnduinLothar | markets* |
| 22:31.00 | Cide | save up on mats for the new flasks in 2.2 (provided you have the recipes) |
| 22:31.41 | AnduinLothar | free action pots on wsg weekend is a good example |
| 22:31.42 | Nom- | i don't |
| 22:32.09 | Nom- | unfortunately i have only 1 discovery so far in alchemy |
| 22:32.15 | Nom- | and i've made pots like crazy lately |
| 22:32.31 | AnduinLothar | but the better income comes from higher priced elixers that raiders use |
| 22:32.59 | Cide | raiders don't use a lot of elixirs, really |
| 22:33.04 | Cide | just a select few |
| 22:33.10 | Cide | select few elixirs, that is |
| 22:33.11 | AnduinLothar | flasks don't make too much money mostly because people always get them made in-guild |
| 22:33.26 | AnduinLothar | and non-raiders never use them |
| 22:33.49 | AnduinLothar | except maybe some elite pvpers |
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| 22:34.54 | AnduinLothar | a guy in my guild is monopolizing the netherweave market |
| 22:35.01 | AnduinLothar | it's up to 4g a stack avg |
| 22:35.10 | Nom- | lol that's normal for my server |
| 22:35.18 | Nom- | it was 3g 75s when i logged |
| 22:35.37 | clad|book | i've always wanted to do that |
| 22:35.39 | clad|book | i totally have the time, too |
| 22:35.46 | clad|book | and the money |
| 22:36.17 | AnduinLothar | he's got lots of friends being payed to post for prices above his |
| 22:36.33 | AnduinLothar | and buying cloth in bunches of 8000 |
| 22:36.46 | cog|work | good to be a cloth farmer then... |
| 22:36.54 | Nom- | lol |
| 22:37.00 | Nom- | i wish i had the gold to do that |
| 22:37.24 | Nom- | 6 pages of netherweave, even if i only added 50s a stack, it'd be worth it |
| 22:37.33 | AnduinLothar | everytime i've tried I lose money. |
| 22:37.49 | AnduinLothar | prolly never started with a large neough market |
| 22:39.04 | Nom- | i've got a guildie who was actually able to loan me 4k gold for my mount |
| 22:39.10 | Nom- | he won't share his secrets tho :( |
| 22:39.29 | zenzelezz | nothing to it, just be careful about your gold |
| 22:39.35 | zenzelezz | and do your dailies |
| 22:39.40 | Nom- | I do |
| 22:40.05 | Nom- | He says he makes more than 2k a week though, and dailies along can't do that |
| 22:40.23 | zenzelezz | I'm at 6250 now, gave away 4000 some weeks ago, spent ~2000 on useless stuff |
| 22:40.47 | Nom- | and do you grind, play the ah? |
| 22:40.51 | zenzelezz | nope |
| 22:41.14 | zenzelezz | well, I grind stuff instead of buying, but I don't grind to sell |
| 22:41.16 | AnduinLothar | i would have money if i didn't have raiding gear sets for prot, ret and holy |
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| 22:41.24 | AnduinLothar | and if i didn't respec 2x a weeks |
| 22:41.39 | Nom- | well that's part of the problem for me i guess |
| 22:41.49 | Nom- | i raid 4 days a week, respec about 4 times a week |
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| 22:42.13 | zenzelezz | ouch, that's a lot of respeccing |
| 22:42.17 | zenzelezz | what class do you play? |
| 22:42.20 | Nom- | Paladin |
| 22:42.31 | Nom- | I tank for some fights, and heal for others |
| 22:42.55 | Nom- | So for instnace i |
| 22:42.57 | AnduinLothar | playing a pally is like playing 3 lvl 70 alts and only being able to do 1 set of dailies |
| 22:43.14 | Nom- | I'll tank Hydross, Tidewalker |
| 22:43.28 | Nom- | But I have to heal Lurker and Fathom-lord |
| 22:43.38 | Valaron|Work | Haha.. I disconnected my workstation from the network. |
| 22:43.43 | Valaron|Work | Oops |
| 22:43.44 | Nom- | I usually don't have to respec until after Lurker is dead though |
| 22:43.45 | zenzelezz | we have a ret paladin, but no prot ones |
| 22:43.53 | Nom- | Tide-walker i mean |
| 22:44.00 | AnduinLothar | >.< you respec durring the raid? thats harsh |
| 22:44.14 | Nom- | Depends on how quickly we're moving |
| 22:44.23 | AnduinLothar | if oyu have full epic gear you can heal pretty well w/o the spec |
| 22:44.30 | zenzelezz | also got one feral and one moonkin |
| 22:44.36 | Nom- | If we get Hydross, Lurker and Tidewalker down quick enough, then I have to respec for Fathom-lord |
| 22:44.58 | Nom- | I do have good gear, yea, but mana doesn't last long |
| 22:45.04 | AnduinLothar | true |
| 22:45.13 | zenzelezz | diversion; I find it funny when people call Karathress "phantom lord" |
| 22:45.17 | AnduinLothar | but mana pots are cheeper than respecs |
| 22:45.21 | Nom- | Once we seriously have the bosses on farm, then i should be ok |
| 22:45.43 | zenzelezz | super mana potions are like half the price of super healing potions :-| |
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| 22:47.09 | AnduinLothar | how much mp5 nom? |
| 22:47.23 | Nom- | 120ish before any buffs i think |
| 22:47.31 | Nom- | I can spam forever in holy spec, due to the free crits |
| 22:47.39 | Nom- | Well, cheaper crits |
| 22:47.49 | Nom- | but without them, mana runs out unless it's a light healing fight |
| 22:51.29 | AnduinLothar | one thing to try is a super high spirit weapon you can swap in when you need to regen, then stop casting for 10s at a time |
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| 22:52.12 | Nom- | I'm a paladin |
| 22:52.16 | Nom- | Can't really do that :) |
| 22:52.36 | Nom- | I'm an MT flashbot |
| 22:52.47 | Nom- | Constantly spamming flash is what i have to d |
| 22:52.49 | Nom- | *do |
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| 22:53.02 | AnduinLothar | then 200mp5 is the goal |
| 22:53.52 | Nom- | with BoW i'd be pretty close to that |
| 22:54.06 | AnduinLothar | you can also spread out your casts |
| 22:54.31 | AnduinLothar | since they aren't quite as time sensitive due to the cast time |
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| 23:00.55 | cog|work | Is it wrong of me to reply to a chain e-mail from my grandma with "Please don't send me chain e-mails. They don't get blocked by my spam blocker." |
| 23:02.08 | Kaydeethree | I did the same thing to my grandmother, more along the lines of "I get enough of these every day, would you mind taking me off of the cc: list?" |
| 23:02.44 | AnduinLothar | "hey gm, thanks for thinking of me, but I'd rather not get chain letters. Love you!" |
| 23:03.37 | Shirik|AFK | !ap 1556 |
| 23:03.37 | ThraeBot | Shirik|AFK: Arena points from a rating of 1556 is, 2v2: 307, 3v3: 351, 5v5: 439 |
| 23:06.23 | Wobin_ | yeah |
| 23:06.35 | Wobin_ | I taught my mother about Snopes.com |
| 23:06.45 | Wobin_ | so she could refute the chain letters herself =) |
| 23:07.23 | Wobin_ | much more effective when my luddite appearing mother sends Snopes links back to the family 'OMG WATCH FOR MUGGER' emails |
| 23:13.09 | Shirik|AFK | ho.ly.crap. |
| 23:13.11 | Shirik|AFK | I just 1v1'ed a lock |
| 23:13.12 | Shirik|AFK | and won |
| 23:13.22 | Kaydeethree | is it a blue moon? |
| 23:13.27 | Shirik|AFK | as a holy priest |
| 23:13.30 | Shirik|AFK | I'm still not understanding this |
| 23:13.57 | Wobin_ | hehe |
| 23:14.08 | Wobin_ | I read that as 'lvl'ed" |
| 23:14.16 | |Jelly| | Me too. |
| 23:14.17 | Cide | what |
| 23:14.18 | Wobin_ | and thought wow. a 'lock to 70? |
| 23:14.21 | Cide | I've never done that. ever. |
| 23:14.26 | Cide | well, since BC |
| 23:14.26 | |Jelly| | I was thinking "Question mark?" |
| 23:14.38 | Cide | that must be an absolutely terrible warlock |
| 23:14.51 | Wobin_ | >< |
| 23:14.55 | Shirik|AFK | I also had to use quite literally every cooldown I had |
| 23:14.57 | Wobin_ | I had a shadowlab run |
| 23:15.05 | Wobin_ | where the holy priest outdamaged -everyone- |
| 23:15.05 | Shirik|AFK | even the ones I've never used in an arena before |
| 23:15.07 | Shirik|AFK | consume magic? |
| 23:15.13 | Shirik|AFK | I've never ever used consume magic in an arena |
| 23:15.54 | Wobin_ | damn, I so should have looked at the recount session for that run |
| 23:16.24 | Cide | well yeah |
| 23:16.38 | Cide | but I'm sure said holy priest drank after every pull, too :P |
| 23:17.12 | Shirik|AFK | http://images.gammatester.com/pics/733bda1b020ab8f56300e04ebc4a9e78.jpg |
| 23:17.17 | Wobin_ | actually ... no O.O |
| 23:17.21 | Shirik|AFK | proof. |
| 23:17.32 | Shirik|AFK | The lock died after the shadow priest died but before the lock did much |
| 23:17.34 | |Jelly| | *sigh* Ok. The G15 issue is really pissing me off now. |
| 23:17.39 | Shirik|AFK | s/lock/rogue/ |
| 23:17.55 | Shirik|AFK | the rest of the lock was up to me >< |
| 23:18.03 | Shirik|AFK | Basically I shadow word pain and kited |
| 23:18.07 | Shirik|AFK | and when he life tapped, I mana burned |
| 23:18.24 | Shirik|AFK | !ap 1569 |
| 23:18.24 | ThraeBot | Shirik|AFK: Arena points from a rating of 1569 is, 2v2: 318, 3v3: 363, 5v5: 454 |
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| 23:21.29 | Shirik|AFK | |Jelly|: Btw, there's your proof I'm overpowered |
| 23:22.44 | |Jelly| | Proof you hax imo. |
| 23:22.59 | Shirik|AFK | the lock kinda did suck thoyugh |
| 23:23.04 | |Jelly| | And my stupid media keys don't work unless iTunes is the focus. ...which completely defeats the purpose. |
| 23:23.06 | Shirik|AFK | if you keep getting mana burned |
| 23:23.10 | Shirik|AFK | obviously the solution is not to life tap |
| 23:23.30 | Cide | meh |
| 23:23.38 | Cide | good locks have you dead before mana is an issue :P |
| 23:23.43 | Shirik|AFK | truth |
| 23:23.44 | Cide | oh! |
| 23:23.48 | Cide | I actually beat a warlock once |
| 23:23.53 | Cide | he was level 65 |
| 23:23.57 | Shirik|AFK | I would also like to point out |
| 23:23.59 | Shirik|AFK | I had.... |
| 23:24.01 | Cide | and I had to wand him to death with 11.7k hp |
| 23:24.58 | Shirik|AFK | rofl |
| 23:25.08 | Shirik|AFK | anyway |
| 23:25.12 | Shirik|AFK | 150 +damage is what I had |
| 23:25.41 | Cide | pretty nice job then |
| 23:26.04 | Cide | ah well |
| 23:26.07 | Cide | I'm off to sleep! |
| 23:26.08 | Cide | night |
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