| 00:03.07 | Shirik | huh, I didn't know you could make a discovery from primal might |
| 00:04.31 | Mr_Rabies2 | so a baby seal walks into a club |
| 00:04.39 | Shirik | ouch? |
| 00:08.44 | Mr_Rabies2 | are there any addons that let you run commands on login? |
| 00:08.55 | Mr_Rabies2 | i know there used to be a few |
| 00:09.06 | Mr_Rabies2 | but i don't know if it's still possible to customize stuff like that anymore |
| 00:09.28 | Shirik | uh |
| 00:09.40 | Shirik | not that I'm aware of, but a short addon could |
| 00:09.58 | Shirik | hell a short addon could provide that command for you |
| 00:10.11 | Mr_Rabies2 | like, for example, a friend of mine wants |
| 00:10.13 | Mr_Rabies2 | /script f:SetBackdrop(nil); |
| 00:10.27 | Mr_Rabies2 | on login |
| 00:10.31 | Mr_Rabies2 | whatever that does |
| 00:10.45 | Shirik | if you want, I could make an addon to provide that command (limited to scripts only) in about 10 seconds |
| 00:10.58 | Shirik | would be completely command-line only |
| 00:10.59 | Shirik | but still |
| 00:11.15 | Mr_Rabies2 | i'd love it, it'd probably help me with writing addons too |
| 00:11.23 | Mr_Rabies2 | because i could see the framework without all the clutter |
| 00:11.40 | Mr_Rabies2 | that's my problem, getting the framework together |
| 00:11.45 | Mr_Rabies2 | and hooking events and the like |
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| 00:12.11 | Mr_Rabies2 | i've had an idea to hook an event and play a sound when said event fires for about a year now and just haven't been able to even get started |
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| 00:17.48 | Guillotine | Mr_Rabies2: I have a really simple addon that does that for certain things I've wanted (e.g. nightfall proc and 2piece malorne proc). I call it OMGFIRE |
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| 00:23.02 | Lunessa | I'm an evil wicked person. For at least the last four user support requests I've gotten I've wanted to respond with "The first step is for you to quit being retarded." |
| 00:24.15 | art3mis | http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=2941.1460 |
| 00:24.20 | art3mis | is that jerkish of me? |
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| 00:25.39 | Lunessa | yes |
| 00:25.45 | Lunessa | but /shrug/ |
| 00:27.00 | Shirik | Mr_Rabies: This is harder than I thought :( 100 lines |
| 00:27.02 | Shirik | just testing now |
| 00:28.05 | Mr_Rabies2 | guillo: mmmmyess? :O |
| 00:28.25 | Mr_Rabies2 | i'd love some source code for that for my own personal use if that's cool with you :O |
| 00:28.51 | Mr_Rabies2 | the more simple addons i can look at the better my chances are of learning to stop bitching at you guys to get stuff implemented |
| 00:29.00 | Shirik | Mr_Rabies: Not like I can give it to you without the source :P |
| 00:29.12 | Mr_Rabies2 | i know that |
| 00:29.42 | Mr_Rabies2 | but i want to check out how he hooks events too to help me make my eenkonkonk addon |
| 00:29.57 | Mr_Rabies2 | (makes the transformers noise upon the shapeshift event firing) |
| 00:30.27 | Mr_Rabies2 | i've looked at some addons like, soundtrack or whatever it's called |
| 00:30.32 | Guillotine | Mr_Rabies2: sure, hold on |
| 00:30.35 | Mr_Rabies2 | and it's just too complicated for a scrub like me |
| 00:31.21 | art3mis | hehe transformer noices when you form shift |
| 00:31.23 | Guillotine | oh, looks like its an ace addon. you mind? |
| 00:31.27 | art3mis | noises |
| 00:31.57 | Mr_Rabies2 | i don't care as long as i can hack it up and pervert it into a shell of its former self, always weeping |
| 00:32.00 | Shirik | oh |
| 00:32.04 | Shirik | I didn't realize you were talking to Guillotine |
| 00:32.11 | Mr_Rabies2 | for the source i was |
| 00:32.35 | Mr_Rabies2 | the more stuff i get thrown at me the better |
| 00:32.56 | Shirik | 108 lines; course the first 30 are comments |
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| 00:33.13 | Guillotine | Mr_Rabies2: http://guillotine.pastey.net/73467 |
| 00:35.01 | Mr_Rabies2 | i just need to write up a toc file and that's good to go? |
| 00:35.44 | Guillotine | my toc:http://guillotine.pastey.net/73468 |
| 00:35.50 | Guillotine | but yah, that'll work as long as you have ace |
| 00:36.01 | Guillotine | and you can hack it up however you want |
| 00:36.13 | Guillotine | I just made it to help myself with shadow trance and see how often the set bonus procs :P |
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| 00:37.45 | Mr_Rabies2 | yar |
| 00:38.05 | Mr_Rabies2 | i'm just looking around, is there a reason you put the druid check in there? |
| 00:38.32 | Mr_Rabies2 | oh duh |
| 00:38.45 | Guillotine | since they use two seperate events, no reason to register the event if its not going to be used |
| 00:38.47 | Mr_Rabies2 | i'm still not used to looking at functions being used THEN defined |
| 00:38.53 | Guillotine | lol |
| 00:39.29 | Guillotine | it isn't used then defined o.O |
| 00:39.59 | Mr_Rabies2 | well, it's used in the code before you register the event |
| 00:40.02 | Shirik | I think he means something like this |
| 00:40.19 | Guillotine | ah, I see |
| 00:40.23 | Mr_Rabies2 | i'm so used to how mirc does things, mirc's the only language that has made sense for me :x |
| 00:40.25 | Shirik | >>> function foo() bar() end; function bar() print("Rawr!") end; foo() |
| 00:40.28 | Shirik | lua> function foo() bar() end; function bar() print("Rawr!") end; foo() |
| 00:40.28 | cladbot | Shirik: Rawr! |
| 00:40.50 | Mr_Rabies2 | like, on event: do this stuff |
| 00:40.57 | Mr_Rabies2 | i wish addon making was so easy |
| 00:40.57 | Mr_Rabies2 | :[ |
| 00:41.09 | Guillotine | it is :P you can do it the other way around |
| 00:41.17 | Guillotine | I just happened to do it that way |
| 00:41.54 | Mr_Rabies2 | like for mirc, i can make a fairly complex script only take one or two lines |
| 00:42.28 | FlAWD | mirc scripting is real easy .. i wish all programming was that easy |
| 00:42.41 | Mr_Rabies2 | i mean |
| 00:42.42 | Mr_Rabies2 | alias ntl2 { say $replace($1-,26,z,25,y,24,x,23,w,22,v,21,u,20,t,19,s,18,r,17,q,16,p,15,o,14,n,13,m,12,l,11,k,10,j,9,i,8,h,7,g,6,f,5,e,4,d,3,c,2,b,1,a) } |
| 00:42.47 | Mr_Rabies2 | with that i can type /ntl hello |
| 00:42.49 | Mr_Rabies2 | and get |
| 00:42.53 | Mr_Rabies2 | oops |
| 00:42.54 | FlAWD | ntl2 |
| 00:42.57 | Mr_Rabies2 | with that i can type /ntl2 hello |
| 00:43.06 | Mr_Rabies2 | hello |
| 00:43.09 | Mr_Rabies2 | oops rofl |
| 00:43.11 | FlAWD | i know mirc scripting well :D |
| 00:43.13 | Mr_Rabies2 | that's letter to number :X |
| 00:43.22 | FlAWD | Im using 15,;14'4Broke154Ass154Script14'15;, V0.1 By: FlAWD |
| 00:43.24 | Mr_Rabies2 | i wrote that for some web-based hacking program |
| 00:43.32 | FlAWD | heh |
| 00:43.35 | Mr_Rabies2 | hello |
| 00:43.36 | Mr_Rabies2 | blah |
| 00:43.47 | Mr_Rabies2 | i guess i never did a letter to number one, rofl |
| 00:43.57 | FlAWD | i won't tell anyone :P |
| 00:44.11 | Mr_Rabies2 | er, web based hacking game |
| 00:44.26 | Mr_Rabies2 | where you decipher the exif data in an image to get passwords and stuff |
| 00:44.41 | Mr_Rabies2 | on *:text:*:#straticshoc: { scid 1 msg #wow 4< $+ $nick $+ > $$1- } |
| 00:44.43 | Mr_Rabies2 | just so simple |
| 00:45.08 | FlAWD | scid oo |
| 00:45.20 | Mr_Rabies2 | on any text in #straticshoc, i send a message to #wow on the first server in my server list in this format <Mr_Rabies2> I am awesome |
| 00:45.23 | FlAWD | i use a BNC |
| 00:45.41 | FlAWD | 0Ì148:45pm00¹4f~Mr_Rabies20>>15 on any text in #straticshoc, i s |
| 00:45.44 | Cidan | mm, my friend wrote BNC |
| 00:45.50 | Cidan | Really nice guy |
| 00:45.57 | Mr_Rabies2 | i wrote most of my own scripts |
| 00:45.59 | Mr_Rabies2 | just over time |
| 00:46.00 | Cidan | learned a lot from him, he is a true god of machines. |
| 00:46.10 | FlAWD | wrote BNC? what do you mean? |
| 00:46.11 | Mr_Rabies2 | so it's probably not always the best way |
| 00:46.17 | Shirik | ok Mr_Rabies all set |
| 00:46.25 | Shirik | how you want me to get it to you? |
| 00:46.29 | Cidan | http://www.gotbnc.com/ |
| 00:46.36 | Mr_Rabies2 | pastey would work fine shirik |
| 00:46.43 | Shirik | ok you'll have to make the toc then :) |
| 00:46.46 | Mr_Rabies2 | fine with me |
| 00:46.51 | FlAWD | yea i've done all my own mirc scripting and such .. it was fun making my client exactly how i like |
| 00:47.05 | Cidan | bnc has nothing to do with your client, eh. |
| 00:47.09 | Cidan | Nevermind |
| 00:47.13 | Cidan | Back to code |
| 00:47.13 | FlAWD | oh i see Shrik .. he wrote a BNC Client |
| 00:47.25 | Cidan | wtf, Why are you calling me Shirik? |
| 00:47.32 | FlAWD | er |
| 00:47.33 | Cidan | I'm not as crazy as him. |
| 00:47.36 | Shirik | http://wowi.pastey.net/73469 |
| 00:47.38 | FlAWD | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:47.38 | Mr_Rabies2 | oh, bnc's a vhost |
| 00:47.39 | Mr_Rabies2 | basically? |
| 00:47.42 | FlAWD | yea |
| 00:47.44 | Shirik | ( @ Mr_Rabies) |
| 00:47.46 | Mr_Rabies2 | ah |
| 00:47.50 | Cidan | no, bnc is just a program that runs server side |
| 00:48.00 | FlAWD | more like a proxy |
| 00:48.04 | Cidan | it's a "bounce" for IRC, ie: you connect to it, it connects to IRC |
| 00:48.05 | Cidan | yeah |
| 00:48.27 | Cidan | except it has some nice options, like vhost selection if the server has any you can use, etc |
| 00:48.32 | FlAWD | like i have psyBNC running on my webserver ... and it connects to all my IRC networks ... i just connect from anywhere to my webserver ... and i get onto all my servers/chans |
| 00:48.43 | Shirik | oh crap |
| 00:48.46 | Shirik | Mr_Rabies: Remove line 68 |
| 00:48.54 | Mr_Rabies2 | i used that to relay text for the folks too lazy to get into a channel |
| 00:48.56 | Mr_Rabies2 | okay, Shirik |
| 00:49.25 | Shirik | oh and when you make the toc |
| 00:49.32 | Shirik | make sure you do ##SavedVariables: AutobotData |
| 00:49.36 | FlAWD | it's also nice because it uses my DNS for my website as my host .. so i'm "virtually" untraceable |
| 00:50.14 | Mr_Rabies2 | i also wrote a fairly awesome and evil script similar |
| 00:50.40 | Mr_Rabies2 | on *:text:*:#wowi-lounge: { notice zenzelezz < $+ $nick $+ > $$1- } |
| 00:50.46 | Mr_Rabies2 | that's a great one to drive people batty |
| 00:50.48 | Mr_Rabies2 | :D |
| 00:51.27 | Mr_Rabies2 | i write evil scripts more than useful ones just because it's easier to be evil, plus it's more fun |
| 00:51.46 | FlAWD | heh |
| 00:52.06 | Mr_Rabies2 | like one that notices random numbers to a channel, once for every user in it |
| 00:52.12 | FlAWD | /google { run http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q= $+ $1 $+ &btnG=Google+Search } |
| 00:52.14 | FlAWD | :) |
| 00:52.23 | Mr_Rabies2 | i have /f11 instead |
| 00:52.27 | Mr_Rabies2 | so i can just hit f11 |
| 00:52.33 | Mr_Rabies2 | this, rather |
| 00:52.55 | Mr_Rabies2 | f11 { run http://www.google.com/search?q= $+ $$?="Google Search for what?" } |
| 00:52.57 | kergoth | whats a good (free) app to record videos of wow? |
| 00:53.24 | FlAWD | i'm gonna msg this one to you ... don't wanna spam the chan :) |
| 00:53.25 | Mr_Rabies2 | that version check was to see if you were on mac :O |
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| 00:57.05 | Mr_Rabies2 | i think i'm about to get auctioneer advanced |
| 00:57.15 | Mr_Rabies2 | and totally scrap my old auctioneer once i'm happy with it |
| 00:57.20 | Mr_Rabies2 | all the savedvariables, everything |
| 00:57.28 | Mr_Rabies2 | including informant and everything else |
| 00:59.08 | FlAWD | time for some DOD:S .. nice chattin' with ya |
| 00:59.38 | Mr_Rabies2 | have fun |
| 00:59.44 | Mr_Rabies2 | i'm awful at DoD:S |
| 01:00.05 | FlAWD | i was a medal of honor junkie for the longest time |
| 01:00.13 | FlAWD | this isn't that different |
| 01:00.57 | Mr_Rabies2 | i was okay at MoH:AA |
| 01:01.00 | |Jelly| | Shirik: I just went off on a guild member pretty much in ode to you. |
| 01:01.02 | Mr_Rabies2 | not so much DoD |
| 01:01.06 | Shirik | o.o |
| 01:01.14 | |Jelly| | [G] <Bakstabber>: dps meters show you who knows how to play |
| 01:01.22 | Shirik | -_- |
| 01:01.42 | |Jelly| | We're fighting Mag. There isn't a lock anywhere near the top. |
| 01:01.48 | Shirik | dps meters show you who knows how not to play |
| 01:01.51 | |Jelly| | I'm raid healing *SIGH* so I'm above everyone by a lot. |
| 01:01.58 | Shirik | the way it does that is by determining who says statements like that |
| 01:02.03 | Shirik | i.e., "Bakstabber" |
| 01:02.03 | |Jelly| | They. Don't. Mean. Shit. |
| 01:02.08 | Kaydeethree | there should never be any locks doing well on the meters for mag |
| 01:02.10 | Shirik | no, they're very useful |
| 01:02.16 | |Jelly| | Exactly, KD3. |
| 01:02.16 | Shirik | they figure out who makes statements like that |
| 01:02.22 | Shirik | and that tells you who doesn't know how to play :D |
| 01:02.40 | Mr_Rabies2 | ewll |
| 01:02.42 | Mr_Rabies2 | er, well |
| 01:02.58 | Mr_Rabies2 | if you've got a guy decked out more than anyone else and he's below the rogue in blues, you know something's up |
| 01:03.13 | Shirik | afk walgreens for hotdog buns |
| 01:03.18 | Shirik | hey do you think walgreens has hotdog buns? |
| 01:03.23 | Mr_Rabies2 | i don't know |
| 01:03.24 | Shirik | maybe not... wonder if publix is still open |
| 01:03.24 | Kaydeethree | possibly |
| 01:03.27 | Kaydeethree | <3 publix |
| 01:03.31 | Kaydeethree | want one in statesboro |
| 01:03.55 | |Jelly| | I hate how guilds can turn too. |
| 01:04.06 | |Jelly| | We had Mag on farm... |
| 01:04.20 | |Jelly| | Now we merged with another guild...and can't even get the channelers down. |
| 01:04.32 | Mr_Rabies2 | but using the meter as a purely objective measure of knowing what you're doing isn't a great ide |
| 01:04.33 | Mr_Rabies2 | idea |
| 01:04.40 | Mr_Rabies2 | you have to take gear, etc into account |
| 01:05.12 | Mr_Rabies2 | hell even latency |
| 01:05.25 | Mr_Rabies2 | over enough time, if someone's pinging bad, their dps will suffer |
| 01:05.28 | |Jelly| | Who are you arguing with? |
| 01:05.31 | Mr_Rabies2 | s/bad/badly/ |
| 01:06.03 | Mr_Rabies2 | arguing with you for saying they don't mean shit :O |
| 01:06.25 | |Jelly| | Would you like my rebuttal? |
| 01:06.28 | Mr_Rabies2 | they do have a use, but it's often used for other reasons that it shouldn't be used for |
| 01:06.38 | |Jelly| | The boss didn't die. The don't mean shit. |
| 01:08.05 | Mr_Rabies2 | if they're outgearing people of the same class and still getting left behind it's still useful to point out their dumbassery, despite the status of the boss |
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| 01:08.41 | Mr_Rabies2 | the more you can purge the dumbasses and get people that know what they're doing, the more likely you are to have fights easier |
| 01:08.57 | |Jelly| | So, by that logic, we should be yelling at all the warlocks? |
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| 01:09.22 | Mr_Rabies2 | no, because there's a valid reason they're low |
| 01:10.17 | Mr_Rabies2 | using the meters purely to point out dumbassery is dumb, but it helps provide fairly accurate evidence if you know other factors |
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| 01:10.39 | Mr_Rabies2 | i.e. gear, fight being melee unfriendly, caster unfriendly, etc |
| 01:13.37 | Cidan | I hate how guild leaders have this mottor for their guild of standing for honor, then call my girlfriend a PMS'ing 5 letter word on vent in front of peers. |
| 01:13.44 | Cidan | Oh, and she was an officer. |
| 01:14.14 | Mr_Rabies2 | that depends on her status of being a pmsing 5 letter word or not |
| 01:14.53 | Cidan | She wasn't at the time |
| 01:15.01 | Cidan | He was just being a douche. |
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| 01:16.31 | Mr_Rabies2 | my guild has a pg/pg13 rating on guild chat :/ |
| 01:16.37 | Mr_Rabies2 | its driving me nuts |
| 01:16.45 | Kaydeethree | ouch. |
| 01:17.01 | Mr_Rabies2 | i like my kara team |
| 01:17.09 | Mr_Rabies2 | but the rest of them are scrubs |
| 01:17.11 | Kaydeethree | it's all over our guild app page: "Guild chat can get extremely offensive. Do not apply if you can't handle that" |
| 01:17.26 | Mr_Rabies2 | i think i may leave on good terms and still go to kara with them |
| 01:20.35 | Shirik | Hang on, I'm confused |
| 01:20.40 | Shirik | I just realized my guild is trying to Kill A'dal |
| 01:20.46 | Shirik | why are they doing that again? |
| 01:20.57 | Kaydeethree | link em the uber screenshot |
| 01:21.15 | Shirik | I mean why are we killing someone on our side -_- |
| 01:21.15 | Mr_Rabies2 | he only has like 100 hp |
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| 01:25.27 | Mr_Rabies2 | i just totally dumped all the saved variables and everything for auctioneer and all its other addons |
| 01:25.36 | Mr_Rabies2 | that was well needed |
| 01:29.16 | Shirik | where's the 300+ tailor trainer for horde? thrallmar? |
| 01:29.24 | |Jelly| | yeah |
| 01:29.54 | Shirik | PLing tailoring, dropped herbalism |
| 01:30.04 | Shirik | not going well... auction house fails at keeping mageweave in stock |
| 01:30.11 | |Jelly| | lol |
| 01:30.20 | Shirik | and I had a ton to start out with too |
| 01:30.34 | |Jelly| | Are you on a old server? |
| 01:30.41 | |Jelly| | s/a/an |
| 01:30.42 | Shirik | somewhat new I think |
| 01:30.46 | |Jelly| | i fail |
| 01:30.50 | |Jelly| | I can never get that to work. : / |
| 01:31.09 | Shirik | you need a / at the end :) |
| 01:32.42 | |Jelly| | yeah yeah yeah |
| 01:33.41 | Shirik | |Jelly|: Do you know exactly where the trainer is? |
| 01:33.52 | |Jelly| | In the inn. |
| 01:34.18 | Shirik | and... I just DCed |
| 01:34.44 | Shirik | no, just "your display driver stopped responding and has recovered" |
| 01:34.49 | Shirik | wtf |
| 01:34.57 | Shirik | kinda nice that they built in the ability to recover now though |
| 01:35.07 | |Jelly| | lol |
| 01:35.23 | Shirik | |Jelly|: Thanks |
| 01:35.57 | Shirik | oh yes! I can move up to runecloth! |
| 01:35.59 | Shirik | whoo |
| 01:36.20 | |Jelly| | woooooo |
| 01:36.42 | Shirik | as the AH has no mageweave left :P |
| 01:36.50 | |Jelly| | Go farm. :P |
| 01:37.10 | Shirik | |Jelly| |
| 01:37.13 | Shirik | I'm a priest |
| 01:37.15 | Shirik | I'm a holy priest |
| 01:37.23 | Shirik | wtf am I going to do |
| 01:37.30 | Shirik | no, I don't have lolly nova |
| 01:37.32 | |Jelly| | !c us burning legion jelly |
| 01:37.35 | ThraeBot | |Jelly|: Jelly, Level 70 Blood Elf Priest (23/38/0). 7841 HP; 10005 Mana; 376 mana regen; 129 mp5; 144 +spell dmg; 1590 +heal; 5.06% dodge;[[ TBR: 894 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/yrmc88 ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/2mw2d7 ][ Updated: Wed Sep 5 21:49:07 2007 ]] |
| 01:38.51 | |Jelly| | Trust me, I understand. 8P |
| 01:39.40 | Shirik | mana so much better than mine :( |
| 01:40.07 | |Jelly| | Do you raid? |
| 01:40.12 | Shirik | getting into it |
| 01:40.20 | |Jelly| | You'll get there. 8P |
| 01:41.54 | Shirik | partially why I picked up the tailoring |
| 01:41.58 | Shirik | I'm so undergeared and I need to make up for it |
| 01:42.20 | |Jelly| | now you just get to farm primals. lol |
| 01:42.35 | Shirik | I'm already doing that |
| 01:42.38 | Shirik | for alchemist's stone |
| 01:43.20 | Shirik | NOO!!! |
| 01:43.25 | Shirik | Someone bought all the runecloth right before moe |
| 01:43.28 | Shirik | you have got to be kidding!! |
| 01:43.50 | |Jelly| | :( |
| 01:43.54 | Shirik | that is SO not funny |
| 01:43.57 | |Jelly| | go farm :P |
| 01:43.59 | Shirik | I checked 5 minutes ago, there was a ton |
| 01:45.05 | Shirik | *sigh* that's so not cool |
| 01:45.54 | Shirik | and |Jelly| I can't kill a damn thing |
| 01:46.02 | Shirik | you know how long it takes me to get a primal fire? |
| 01:46.03 | Shirik | It's not cool |
| 01:46.09 | |Jelly| | !c us burning legion jelly |
| 01:46.10 | ThraeBot | |Jelly|: Jelly, Level 70 Blood Elf Priest (23/38/0). 7841 HP; 10005 Mana; 376 mana regen; 129 mp5; 144 +spell dmg; 1590 +heal; 5.06% dodge;[[ TBR: 894 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/yrmc88 ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/2mw2d7 ][ Updated: Wed Sep 5 21:49:07 2007 ]] |
| 01:46.12 | |Jelly| | Yes you can. |
| 01:46.16 | |Jelly| | Trust me. 8P |
| 01:46.18 | Shirik | wow |
| 01:46.22 | Shirik | you have less +spell damage than me |
| 01:46.29 | Shirik | that's impressive |
| 01:46.35 | |Jelly| | I'm a raid healer.. |
| 01:46.49 | Shirik | I healed raids :( |
| 01:46.54 | Shirik | once |
| 01:47.05 | Tem|Work | !c us garona temaile |
| 01:47.08 | ThraeBot | Tem|Work: Temaile, Level 70 Human Mage (0/7/54). 10753 HP; 8486 Mana; 131 mana regen; 183 spell crit; 29 spell hit; 746 +spell dmg/heal; 5.02% dodge; 272 resilience;[[ TBR: 671 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/22lt8g ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/3c3efv ][ Updated: Wed Sep 5 21:58:40 2007 ]] |
| 01:47.12 | Tem|Work | neat |
| 01:47.18 | Shirik | !vs us burning legion jelly us drenden kimina |
| 01:47.19 | ThraeBot | Shirik: Jelly vs Kimina! Two 70 priests square off!; Kimina wins by 208 TBRs! |
| 01:47.21 | Shirik | whooo! |
| 01:47.33 | |Jelly| | DIE! |
| 01:47.35 | Shirik | :D |
| 01:47.48 | Shirik | that's probably way off |
| 01:47.55 | Shirik | !char us eredar kimina |
| 01:47.55 | ThraeBot | Shirik: kimina is not the character you are looking for! |
| 01:47.57 | Shirik | oops |
| 01:47.57 | *** join/#wowi-lounge cogwheel (n=chatzill@c-67-164-121-134.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) |
| 01:48.00 | Shirik | !char us drenden kimina |
| 01:48.01 | ThraeBot | Shirik: Kimina, Level 70 Blood Elf Priest (23/38/0). 6591 HP; 7905 Mana; 399 mana regen; 113 mp5; 248 +spell dmg; 894 +heal; 5.06% dodge;[[ TBR: 1102 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/2fx6zd ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/2pkb3p ][ Updated: Wed Sep 5 21:58:52 2007 ]] |
| 01:48.11 | Tem|Work | !vs us garona temaile us drenden kimina |
| 01:48.11 | ThraeBot | Tem|Work: Temaile vs Kimina! A L70 mage and a L70 priest square off!; 0/7/54 vs 23/38/0; Kimina wins by 468 TBRs! |
| 01:48.19 | Tem|Work | suck |
| 01:48.28 | clad|book | !vs us garone temaile us stormrage sagart |
| 01:48.29 | ThraeBot | clad|book: I failed on the second listed character. You half-fail. |
| 01:48.30 | Tem|Work | wha'ts TBRs? |
| 01:48.39 | clad|book | ~tbr |
| 01:48.40 | purl | rumour has it, tbr is ThraeBot Ratings, an invention of Thrae for his ThraeBot. It works on a weighted logarithmic algorithm partially dependant on build type that, when used to compare two characters, tries to take into account which classes are fighting each other. or "to be released" |
| 01:48.49 | clad|book | ~vs us stormrage sagart us garona temaile |
| 01:48.54 | Shirik | I don't understand what it is about Thrae's algorithm, but my rating always seems to be abnormally high |
| 01:48.59 | Shirik | because I know I can't win |
| 01:49.04 | clad|book | !vs us stormrage sagart us garona temaile |
| 01:49.04 | ThraeBot | clad|book: Sagart vs Temaile! A L70 priest and a L70 mage square off!; 17/0/44 vs 0/7/54; Sagart wins by 131 TBRs! |
| 01:49.11 | clad|book | finally, he let me beat a mage |
| 01:49.26 | clad|book | i think Thrae has it in for the spriests |
| 01:49.31 | Tem|Work | well, I'd really like to test that theory |
| 01:49.33 | Shirik | not a spriest :/ |
| 01:49.46 | clad|book | ptr imo? |
| 01:49.49 | Thrae | I did a lot of changes to the algo recently. |
| 01:49.52 | Tem|Work | I can kill my fair share of shadow priests |
| 01:49.59 | Tem|Work | clad|book, aw, that's an awesome idea |
| 01:50.03 | |Jelly| | !vs us burning legion jelly us drenden kimina |
| 01:50.04 | ThraeBot | |Jelly|: Jelly vs Kimina! Two 70 priests square off!; Kimina wins by 208 TBRs! |
| 01:50.05 | clad|book | lemme patch up |
| 01:50.12 | |Jelly| | grr |
| 01:50.13 | Tem|Work | clad|book, |Work |
| 01:50.15 | |Jelly| | I've beat you before! |
| 01:50.18 | clad|book | boo |
| 01:50.20 | Shirik | |Jelly|: No random elements; if I win, I win |
| 01:50.21 | Shirik | get used to it |
| 01:50.23 | Shirik | rawr! |
| 01:50.38 | clad|book | !vs us stoamrage sagart us drenden kimina |
| 01:50.39 | ThraeBot | clad|book: I failed on the second listed character. You half-fail. |
| 01:50.46 | Tem|Work | !vs us stormrage cladhaire us garona temaile |
| 01:50.47 | ThraeBot | Tem|Work: Cladhaire vs Temaile! Temaile has +10 lvls on Cladhaire (60 vs 70); A L60 rogue and a L70 mage square off!; 0/0/0 vs 0/7/54; Temaile wins by 364 TBRs! |
| 01:50.54 | Tem|Work | weak |
| 01:51.00 | Kaydeethree | the leet 0/0/0 spec |
| 01:51.16 | Shirik | wtf? |
| 01:51.24 | Tem|Work | !vs us garona cogwheel us garona temaile |
| 01:51.24 | ThraeBot | Tem|Work: Cogwheel vs Temaile! A L70 warrior and a L70 mage square off!; 35/26/0 vs 0/7/54; Cogwheel wins by 223 TBRs! |
| 01:51.25 | clad|book | lol tem.. my rogue is level 60.. and has no spec |
| 01:51.31 | Tem|Work | double fail |
| 01:51.31 | clad|book | !vs us stormrage sagart us drenden kimina |
| 01:51.31 | ThraeBot | clad|book: sagart vs kimina! It's a showdown! But wait! What's this?! Something random? sagart's Mom calls him, interrupting the duel -- it's time for kindergarden! Forfeit! |
| 01:51.37 | Tem|Work | Thrae, your algo sucks |
| 01:51.45 | cogwheel | Tem|Work: wanna fight? :P |
| 01:51.50 | Tem|Work | I would _never_ lose to a warrior without a skillherald and a healer |
| 01:52.12 | Thrae | purl, no, tbr is ThraeBot Ratings, an invention of Thrae for his ThraeBot. It works on a PvP-oriented weighted logarithmic algorithm partially dependant on build type that, when used to compare two characters, tries to take into account which classes are fighting each other. or "to be released" |
| 01:52.13 | purl | Thrae: okay |
| 01:53.05 | Thrae | purl, no, tbr is ThraeBot Ratings, an invention of Thrae for his ThraeBot. It works on a PvP-oriented weighted logarithmic algorithm partially dependant on build type that and mostly dependant on what stats the Armoury currently has for you, that when used to compare two characters, tries to take into account which classes are fighting each other. or "to be released" |
| 01:53.06 | purl | okay, Thrae |
| 01:53.32 | Tem|Work | my armory stats are good, mkay |
| 01:53.54 | Thrae | !c us garona temaile |
| 01:53.56 | ThraeBot | Thrae: Temaile, Level 70 Human Mage (0/7/54). 10753 HP; 8486 Mana; 131 mana regen; 183 spell crit; 29 spell hit; 746 +spell dmg/heal; 5.02% dodge; 272 resilience;[[ TBR: 671 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/22lt8g ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/3c3efv ][ Updated: Wed Sep 5 21:58:40 2007 ]] |
| 01:54.17 | clad|book | !c us stormrage sagart |
| 01:54.19 | ThraeBot | clad|book: Sagart, Level 70 Night Elf Priest (17/0/44). 9921 HP; 8700 Mana; 126 mana regen; 19 mp5; 49 spell crit; 62 spell hit; 613 +spell dmg/heal; 179 frost dmg (792); 250 shadow dmg (863); 6.18% dodge; 49 resilience; 10 nature resist (+10);[[ TBR: 809 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/2rh26o ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/38lu97 ][ Updated: Tue Sep 4 16:11:52 2007 ]] |
| 01:54.32 | Thrae | Note: Don't compare these TBRs with each other, !vs is different |
| 01:55.29 | clad|book | !vs us stormrage draoi us garona temaile |
| 01:55.30 | ThraeBot | clad|book: Draoi vs Temaile! A L70 druid and a L70 mage square off!; 1/41/19 vs 0/7/54; Draoi wins by 426 TBRs! ***OWNED!*** |
| 01:55.41 | Shirik | Draoi = overpowered |
| 01:55.51 | Shirik | !vs us stormrage draoi us drenden kimina |
| 01:55.51 | ThraeBot | Shirik: Draoi vs Kimina! A L70 druid and a L70 priest square off!; 1/41/19 vs 23/38/0; Kimina wins by 7 TBRs! |
| 01:55.55 | Shirik | whooooooooooooo |
| 01:55.55 | clad|book | !vs us stormrage sealgaire us garona temaile |
| 01:55.56 | ThraeBot | clad|book: Sealgaire vs Temaile! Temaile has +5 lvls on Sealgaire (65 vs 70); A L65 hunter and a L70 mage square off!; 32/12/12 vs 0/7/54; Temaile wins by 424 TBRs! |
| 01:56.01 | Shirik | clad|book: owned. |
| 01:56.09 | clad|book | you're holy? |
| 01:56.14 | Shirik | mhm |
| 01:56.18 | |Jelly| | !c us burning legion schmeg |
| 01:56.21 | ThraeBot | |Jelly|: Schmeg, Level 70 Troll Priest (22/39/0). 6761 HP; 8640 Mana; 149 mana regen; 22 mp5; 166 spell crit; 51 spell hit; 537 +spell dmg/heal; 5.06% dodge; 28 resilience;[[ TBR: 678 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/3d6fy8 ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/3yn4js ][ Updated: Wed Sep 5 22:07:53 2007 ]] |
| 01:56.22 | clad|book | no way in hell a holy priest can ever lose to a feral druid |
| 01:56.29 | Shirik | clad|book: Like I said |
| 01:56.33 | Shirik | no way in hell anyone loses to me |
| 01:56.33 | Shirik | period |
| 01:56.38 | Shirik | Except maybe |Jelly| |
| 01:56.46 | clad|book | Thrae: I think you need to adjust for holy priests and paladins |
| 01:56.53 | clad|book | the only time they win is when holy is fighting holy :P |
| 01:57.10 | Shirik | well I dunno |
| 01:57.14 | |Jelly| | I win, Shirik! EVERY TIME! |
| 01:57.17 | Shirik | fighting a holy pally can be pretty hard |
| 01:57.22 | Shirik | you die of exhaustion |
| 01:57.25 | clad|book | not as a priest :P |
| 01:57.29 | clad|book | spriest rather |
| 01:57.42 | Thrae | clad|book: Holy Priests shouldn't win unless they have lots of +dmg, and even then, depends on who they're fighting |
| 01:57.57 | Shirik | Thrae: I'm winning... a lot... with barely 200 +damage |
| 01:57.58 | clad|book | Shirik wins all the time |
| 01:58.03 | clad|book | i.e. issue |
| 01:58.08 | Thrae | Hmmmm |
| 01:58.21 | clad|book | !vs us stormrage dewin us stormrage sagart |
| 01:58.22 | ThraeBot | clad|book: Dewin vs Sagart! A L70 mage and a L70 priest square off!; Dewin wins by 354 TBRs! |
| 01:58.32 | clad|book | and that my friend, is TOTALLY incorrect :P |
| 01:58.32 | Shirik | Thrae: |
| 01:58.39 | Shirik | !c us drenden kimina |
| 01:58.40 | clad|book | !us stormrage dewin |
| 01:58.41 | ThraeBot | Shirik: Kimina, Level 70 Blood Elf Priest (23/38/0). 6591 HP; 7905 Mana; 399 mana regen; 113 mp5; 248 +spell dmg; 894 +heal; 5.06% dodge;[[ TBR: 1102 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/2fx6zd ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/2pkb3p ][ Updated: Wed Sep 5 21:58:52 2007 ]] |
| 01:58.51 | Shirik | wow, I didn't know it was that high |
| 01:58.51 | Shirik | but still |
| 01:59.07 | clad|book | !c us garona temaile |
| 01:59.07 | ThraeBot | clad|book: Temaile, Level 70 Human Mage (0/7/54). 10753 HP; 8486 Mana; 131 mana regen; 183 spell crit; 29 spell hit; 746 +spell dmg/heal; 5.02% dodge; 272 resilience;[[ TBR: 671 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/22lt8g ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/3c3efv ][ Updated: Wed Sep 5 21:58:40 2007 ]] |
| 01:59.07 | |Jelly| | !vs us drenden kimina us burning legion jelly |
| 01:59.07 | ThraeBot | |Jelly|: Kimina vs Jelly! Two 70 priests square off!; Kimina wins by 208 TBRs! |
| 01:59.09 | |Jelly| | ASKDFHSALKDFHJQ#@L |
| 01:59.09 | clad|book | !c us stormrage dewin |
| 01:59.10 | ThraeBot | clad|book: Dewin, Level 70 Human Mage (17/0/44). 5913 HP; 8891 Mana; 176 mana regen; 125 spell crit; 43 spell hit; 452 +spell dmg/heal; 121 frost dmg (573); 50 shadow dmg (502); 4.94% dodge;[[ TBR: 1134 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/3exqob ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/3x6tog ][ Updated: Wed Sep 5 22:09:56 2007 ]] |
| 01:59.11 | Shirik | |Jelly|: Just give up :D |
| 01:59.19 | clad|book | How do I lose to Dewin, but beat Tem.. |
| 01:59.33 | Shirik | almost like it's backwards... |
| 01:59.52 | clad|book | yeah |
| 02:00.01 | |Jelly| | !vs us drenden kimina us windrunner sueture |
| 02:00.02 | ThraeBot | |Jelly|: Kimina vs Sueture! Two 70 priests square off!; 23/38/0 vs 11/50/0; Kimina wins by 337 TBRs! |
| 02:00.09 | Shirik | woot, 337 |
| 02:00.12 | clad|book | Thrae: Also, the error messages are wrong.. if i typo the first character, it says the second was misspelled. |
| 02:00.15 | |Jelly| | At least you beat my gimp priest by more than you beat Jelly by. |
| 02:00.17 | Shirik | the second 75% of 1337 |
| 02:00.25 | Shirik | er |
| 02:00.27 | Shirik | damn it |
| 02:00.41 | clad|book | !vs us garona temaile us stormrage dewin |
| 02:00.41 | ThraeBot | clad|book: Temaile vs Dewin! Two 70 mages square off!; 0/7/54 vs 17/0/44; Dewin wins by 485 TBRs! ***OWNED!*** |
| 02:00.46 | clad|book | yeah.. that's backwards |
| 02:00.50 | clad|book | unequivocally |
| 02:00.52 | Shirik | annihilation! |
| 02:00.55 | Shirik | finish him! |
| 02:01.00 | Shirik | flawless! |
| 02:01.05 | clad|book | the bot needs to take resilience into account |
| 02:01.10 | Lunessa | MORTAL KOMBAT |
| 02:01.29 | |Jelly| | !vs us burning legion klot us burning legion jelly |
| 02:01.29 | ThraeBot | |Jelly|: klot vs jelly! It's a showdown! But wait! What's this?! Something random? klot's Mom calls him, interrupting the duel -- it's time for kindergarden! Forfeit! |
| 02:01.42 | |Jelly| | That would be Jelly's mom too. |
| 02:01.45 | |Jelly| | :\ |
| 02:02.26 | Mr_Rabies2 | wow |
| 02:02.33 | Mr_Rabies2 | i went to IF for the first time in months |
| 02:02.37 | Mr_Rabies2 | and got some gold spam in say |
| 02:02.52 | Wobwork | SpamSentry blocks that =) |
| 02:03.46 | Mr_Rabies2 | meh |
| 02:03.48 | Mr_Rabies2 | i've no reason |
| 02:03.51 | Mr_Rabies2 | i'm almost never in IF |
| 02:04.00 | Mr_Rabies2 | i just stopped by to test out auctioneer advanced |
| 02:04.11 | Mr_Rabies2 | it's got a couple of bugs, but alas, it's much much nicer than auc 1-4 |
| 02:05.02 | Shirik | ohhhh |
| 02:05.03 | Shirik | ok |
| 02:05.09 | Shirik | they were triyng to kill alar, not a'dal |
| 02:05.13 | Shirik | someone in heal channel is just a moron |
| 02:05.14 | Mr_Rabies2 | haha |
| 02:05.17 | Mr_Rabies2 | fail |
| 02:05.24 | Shirik | hey, he's the one who screwed up, not me |
| 02:05.39 | Mr_Rabies2 | firebird != windchime |
| 02:05.49 | |Jelly| | lol |
| 02:05.56 | |Jelly| | I like the Al'ar fight. |
| 02:06.01 | Thrae | Tem: Rate these stats from most important to least for Mage PvP -- HP, Mana, MP5, Resilience, Spell Crit, Spell Hit, Spell Damage |
| 02:06.03 | |Jelly| | Too bad we never got past 23% :\ |
| 02:06.23 | Shirik | they just wiped at 2% :( |
| 02:06.27 | |Jelly| | :( |
| 02:06.47 | clad|book | Thrae: it depends on who they're fighting |
| 02:06.47 | Shirik | Thrae: btw, for priests, resilience is very high up |
| 02:06.52 | Shirik | I don't know how you factored it in |
| 02:07.04 | Thrae | Shirik: It's already one of the highest for Priests |
| 02:07.08 | Shirik | ok |
| 02:07.13 | Shirik | cause I have.... zero. |
| 02:07.16 | Shirik | even in arena gear :( |
| 02:07.22 | Shirik | well... the gear I use for arena |
| 02:07.23 | clad|book | yeah we need to figure out how shirik wins |
| 02:07.39 | Shirik | I mean what I really don't get |
| 02:07.43 | Shirik | is I'm beating |Jelly| |
| 02:07.47 | Shirik | and she beats me in just about every stat |
| 02:07.52 | Shirik | the only one she doesn't beat me in is MP5 |
| 02:07.53 | Thrae | clad|book: Right now I only have Mage vs Caster weights, not Mage vs Melee |
| 02:08.10 | Thrae | !mload armorystats |
| 02:08.10 | ThraeBot | Loaded [armorystats] |
| 02:08.14 | clad|book | stat wise i shouldbe a holy priest's worst nightmare |
| 02:08.18 | Thrae | Now Holy Priests should lose |
| 02:08.23 | clad|book | lol |
| 02:08.30 | Shirik | wtf |
| 02:08.37 | |Jelly| | brb...gotta wipe on mag cause people are dumb real quick |
| 02:08.45 | Shirik | !vs us drenden kimina us burning legion jelly |
| 02:08.47 | ThraeBot | Shirik: Kimina vs Jelly! Two 70 priests square off!; Kimina wins by 262 TBRs! |
| 02:08.49 | Shirik | whooo |
| 02:08.52 | Shirik | I still beat |Jelly| |
| 02:09.01 | clad|book | !vs us drenden kimina us stormrage sagart |
| 02:09.01 | Thrae | That's because he sucks |
| 02:09.02 | ThraeBot | clad|book: Kimina vs Sagart! Two 70 priests square off!; 23/38/0 vs 17/0/44; Kimina wins by 87 TBRs! |
| 02:09.07 | clad|book | dot dot dot |
| 02:09.10 | Thrae | Hmmm |
| 02:09.11 | Shirik | what about draoi? |
| 02:09.20 | clad|book | !vs us drenden kimina us stormrage draoi |
| 02:09.21 | ThraeBot | clad|book: Kimina vs Draoi! A L70 priest and a L70 druid square off!; 23/38/0 vs 1/41/19; Draoi wins by 99 TBRs! |
| 02:09.30 | Shirik | yeah I was only winning by 7 before |
| 02:09.31 | clad|book | thank god for that one, i'd cry otherwise :P |
| 02:09.35 | Mr_Rabies2 | how are tbrs calculated |
| 02:09.36 | Mr_Rabies2 | anyway |
| 02:09.38 | Mr_Rabies2 | O_o |
| 02:09.48 | Shirik | "A weighted logarithmic algorithm" |
| 02:09.54 | *** join/#wowi-lounge MentalPower (n=MPower@WoWUIDev/Norganna/Administrator/MentalPower) |
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| 02:09.57 | clad|book | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MQlQ4LwH_30 |
| 02:09.57 | Thrae | Mr_Rabies2: A very impressive weight that no one gives me input on |
| 02:10.05 | Shirik | Thrae: We're trying :( |
| 02:10.20 | Mr_Rabies2 | i've easily beaten people with almost 1000 more TBRs than i |
| 02:10.37 | |Jelly| | and back |
| 02:10.39 | Thrae | TBRs shouldn't go into the 1000s anymore, that's the old, old algo |
| 02:10.43 | Mr_Rabies2 | ah |
| 02:10.52 | Thrae | Unless you're fighting like a Level 20 |
| 02:11.36 | |Jelly| | !vs us burning legion jelly us burning legion mfc |
| 02:11.37 | ThraeBot | |Jelly|: Jelly vs Mfc! Jelly has +52 lvls on Mfc (70 vs 18); A L70 priest and a L18 warrior square off!; 23/38/0 vs 0/0/9; Jelly wins by 668 TBRs! ***OWNED!*** |
| 02:11.43 | |Jelly| | k good |
| 02:11.46 | Thrae | !co us drenden kimina us stormrage sagart |
| 02:11.47 | ThraeBot | Thrae: Kimina vs Sagart! Two 70 priests compare their stat differences; 23/38/0 vs 17/0/44; Sagart ++4350 HP; Sagart ++1.12% dodge; Sagart ++49 resilience; Sagart ++10 nature resist; Kimina ++894 +healing; Kimina ++248 +spelldmg; Sagart ++179 frost dmg; Sagart ++250 shadow dmg; Sagart ++49 spell crit; Sagart ++795 Mana; Kimina ++273 mana regen; Sagart ++62 spell hit; Sagart ++613 +spelldmg/heal; S |
| 02:11.47 | ThraeBot | agart ++557 Armour; Kimina ++94 mp5; Sagart has 2% more stats then Kimina. |
| 02:11.49 | Mr_Rabies2 | !vs us drenden kimina us llane raybeez |
| 02:11.50 | ThraeBot | Mr_Rabies2: Kimina vs Raybeez! A L70 priest and a L70 druid square off!; 23/38/0 vs 1/46/14; Raybeez wins by 287 TBRs! |
| 02:12.13 | Mr_Rabies2 | !vs us stormrage draoi us llane raybeez |
| 02:12.14 | ThraeBot | Mr_Rabies2: Draoi vs Raybeez! Two 70 druids square off!; 1/41/19 vs 1/46/14; Raybeez wins by 353 TBRs! |
| 02:12.31 | Mr_Rabies2 | !vs us cho'gall Corgan us llane raybeez |
| 02:12.37 | Mr_Rabies2 | !vs us cho'gall Corgan us llane raybeez |
| 02:12.38 | ThraeBot | Mr_Rabies2: Corgan vs Raybeez! Two 70 druids square off!; 44/0/17 vs 1/46/14; Corgan wins by 374 TBRs! |
| 02:12.38 | Thrae | !mload armorystats |
| 02:12.38 | ThraeBot | Loaded [armorystats] |
| 02:12.47 | Thrae | !vs us drenden kimina us stormrage sagart |
| 02:12.47 | ThraeBot | Thrae: kimina vs sagart! It's a showdown! But wait! What's this?! Something random? Someone trains Kazzak on the duel, killing sagart instantly. |
| 02:12.55 | Thrae | Damn you Kazzak trainer |
| 02:12.57 | Thrae | !vs us drenden kimina us stormrage sagart |
| 02:12.57 | ThraeBot | Thrae: kimina vs sagart! It's a showdown! But wait! What's this?! Something random? kimina is really a keyboard turner, and his opponent simply walks off after it takes kimina 5 minutes to face the right direction. Forfeit! |
| 02:13.03 | Shirik | rofl |
| 02:13.04 | clad|book | lol |
| 02:13.08 | Thrae | !vs us drenden kimina us stormrage sagart |
| 02:13.10 | ThraeBot | Thrae: Kimina vs Sagart! Two 70 priests square off!; 23/38/0 vs 17/0/44; Kimina wins by 111 TBRs! |
| 02:13.17 | Shirik | sadly, I /am/ a keyboard turner >.> |
| 02:13.21 | Shirik | in most cases |
| 02:13.23 | Mr_Rabies2 | !vs us cho'gall jamsheed us llane raybeez |
| 02:13.23 | Thrae | Oh good, Kimina wins by less now |
| 02:13.24 | ThraeBot | Mr_Rabies2: Jamsheed vs Raybeez! Two 70 druids square off!; 0/49/12 vs 1/46/14; Raybeez wins by 487 TBRs! ***OWNED!*** |
| 02:13.27 | Lunessa | <-- Ditto |
| 02:13.28 | Mr_Rabies2 | :O |
| 02:13.31 | clad|book | i'm a mouse turner |
| 02:13.59 | Lunessa | I can't grip the trackball, hold down the key, and still have any sensation in my hands later. |
| 02:14.13 | Thrae | clad|book: Do spriets benefit from MP5? |
| 02:14.17 | Shirik | Thrae: question is |
| 02:14.20 | Thrae | Since you have like no MP5 |
| 02:14.21 | clad|book | in pvp, mp5 means nothing |
| 02:14.24 | Shirik | did you do it without breaking shadow priests? |
| 02:14.31 | Shirik | Yeah MP5 means nothing except for really long fights |
| 02:14.31 | clad|book | unless you're talking holy paladin versus resto druid |
| 02:14.42 | Shirik | which usually only occurs with very good teams |
| 02:14.46 | Shirik | and almost never 1v1 |
| 02:14.56 | Shirik | rofl |
| 02:14.58 | Shirik | holy pally vs resto druid |
| 02:14.59 | Shirik | awesome |
| 02:15.03 | clad|book | takes SOO long |
| 02:15.20 | Shirik | I saw it once |
| 02:15.27 | Shirik | some horde came along and ended the fight by killing the pally |
| 02:15.32 | |Jelly| | !vs us burning legion jelly us burning legion kelira |
| 02:15.34 | ThraeBot | |Jelly|: Jelly vs Kelira! A L70 priest and a L70 paladin square off!; 23/38/0 vs 5/42/14; Kelira wins by 413 TBRs! |
| 02:15.36 | Shirik | that's how long it took |
| 02:15.40 | Shirik | they were fighting for a good 10 minutes |
| 02:15.41 | |Jelly| | that bitch |
| 02:15.50 | Mr_Rabies2 | !vs us burning legion jelly us llane raybeez |
| 02:15.50 | ThraeBot | Mr_Rabies2: jelly vs raybeez! It's a showdown! But wait! What's this?! Something random? jelly and raybeez cannot hold their feelings for each other any longer, and start getting frisky. I suppose make love, not war? |
| 02:15.53 | clad|book | you heard about the like 10 hour pvp match? |
| 02:15.55 | |Jelly| | Oh wow. She went prot. |
| 02:15.55 | clad|book | 3v3, only the healers were left |
| 02:15.56 | Mr_Rabies2 | D: |
| 02:15.57 | clad|book | they stuck it out for 10 hours |
| 02:15.59 | Shirik | rofl |
| 02:15.59 | clad|book | and neither could kill each other |
| 02:16.01 | Shirik | that's awesome |
| 02:16.01 | clad|book | the shaman finally submitted due to durability, and sleep. |
| 02:16.04 | Mr_Rabies2 | !vs us burning legion jelly us llane raybeez |
| 02:16.04 | ThraeBot | Mr_Rabies2: Jelly vs Raybeez! A L70 priest and a L70 druid square off!; 23/38/0 vs 1/46/14; Raybeez wins by 458 TBRs! |
| 02:16.17 | |Jelly| | I hope you all die. |
| 02:16.21 | Shirik | just for good measure |
| 02:16.29 | Shirik | !vs us drenden kimina us burning legion jelly |
| 02:16.29 | ThraeBot | Shirik: Kimina vs Jelly! Two 70 priests square off!; Kimina wins by 281 TBRs! |
| 02:16.31 | Shirik | whooo |
| 02:16.31 | Thrae | !mload armorystats |
| 02:16.32 | ThraeBot | Loaded [armorystats] |
| 02:16.33 | clad|book | !vs us burning legion jelly us stormrage sagart |
| 02:16.35 | Shirik | !vs us drenden kimina us burning legion jelly |
| 02:16.35 | ThraeBot | clad|book: Jelly vs Sagart! Two 70 priests square off!; 23/38/0 vs 17/0/44; Sagart wins by 241 TBRs! |
| 02:16.35 | Thrae | !vs us drenden kimina us stormrage sagart |
| 02:16.36 | ThraeBot | Shirik: Kimina vs Jelly! Two 70 priests square off!; Kimina wins by 227 TBRs! |
| 02:16.36 | ThraeBot | Thrae: Kimina vs Sagart! Two 70 priests square off!; 23/38/0 vs 17/0/44; Sagart wins by 14 TBRs! |
| 02:16.38 | |Jelly| | Hey Shirik, shouldn't you be aceing Conspiracy?!?! |
| 02:16.39 | Shirik | re-whooo |
| 02:16.47 | Shirik | !vs us eredar shirik us burning legion jelly |
| 02:16.47 | Thrae | clad|book: There you go -- you win by 14 |
| 02:16.47 | ThraeBot | Shirik: shirik vs jelly! It's a showdown! But wait! What's this?! Something random? shirik wins by 8658278 TBRs! Wow, that's GOTTA hurt. |
| 02:16.51 | Shirik | whooooo |
| 02:16.57 | clad|book | lol |
| 02:17.00 | Shirik | !vs us eredar shirik us burning legion jelly |
| 02:17.00 | ThraeBot | Sorry Shirik, you must wait 2 seconds before making another request. |
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| 02:17.06 | Shirik | screw you! |
| 02:17.07 | Shirik | !vs us eredar shirik us burning legion jelly |
| 02:17.08 | ThraeBot | Shirik: Shirik vs Jelly! A L70 hunter and a L70 priest square off!; 3/50/8 vs 23/38/0; Shirik wins by 825 TBRs! ***OWNED!*** |
| 02:17.10 | Shirik | wow. |
| 02:17.15 | Shirik | wooow. |
| 02:17.17 | clad|book | !vs us stormrage sagar us stormrage draoi |
| 02:17.19 | ThraeBot | clad|book: I failed on the first listed character. You fail. |
| 02:17.22 | clad|book | !vs us stormrage sagart us stormrage drao |
| 02:17.23 | ThraeBot | clad|book: I failed on the second listed character. You half-fail. |
| 02:17.25 | clad|book | !vs us stormrage sagart us stormrage draoi |
| 02:17.25 | Shirik | woooooow. |
| 02:17.25 | ThraeBot | Sorry clad|book, you must wait 12 seconds before making another request. |
| 02:17.26 | |Jelly| | <-- sad face |
| 02:17.37 | clad|book | !vs us stormrage sagart us stormrage draoi |
| 02:17.38 | ThraeBot | clad|book: Sagart vs Draoi! A L70 priest and a L70 druid square off!; 17/0/44 vs 1/41/19; Draoi wins by 95 TBRs! |
| 02:17.42 | Thrae | !mload armorystats |
| 02:17.42 | ThraeBot | Loaded [armorystats] |
| 02:17.54 | Thrae | What's Draoi's spec again |
| 02:18.01 | clad|book | feral |
| 02:18.02 | Thrae | Oh, Feral |
| 02:18.03 | Shirik | feral |
| 02:18.12 | Thrae | I forgot that I can see that in the !vs |
| 02:18.22 | Thrae | Well --I-- can beat Shadow Priests as my Feral Druid |
| 02:18.22 | |Jelly| | !vs us burning legion jelly us drenden kimina |
| 02:18.24 | ThraeBot | |Jelly|: Jelly vs Kimina! Two 70 priests square off!; Kimina wins by 227 TBRs! |
| 02:18.27 | |Jelly| | :( |
| 02:18.30 | |Jelly| | I'll win one day! |
| 02:18.32 | |Jelly| | ONE DAY! |
| 02:18.36 | clad|book | i can beat feral druids too |
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| 02:18.47 | |Jelly| | I could beat Kimina! |
| 02:19.17 | Thrae | !c us stormrage draoi |
| 02:19.20 | ThraeBot | Thrae: Draoi, Level 70 Tauren Druid (1/41/19). 7302 HP; 4220 Mana; 100 mana regen; 15 mp5; 858 AP; 129.3 Melee DPS; 13.83% melee crit; 107 melee hit; 83 +heal; 19.21% dodge; 10 nature resist (+10);[[ TBR: 982 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/3awobu ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/324vzk ][ Updated: Wed Sep 5 22:30:52 2007 ]] |
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| 02:20.25 | Thrae | God he sucks, why he is winning |
| 02:20.38 | clad|book | he's horrible :P |
| 02:21.50 | |Jelly| | !vs us burning legion lizzi us burning legion judela |
| 02:21.52 | ThraeBot | |Jelly|: Lizzi vs Judela! Judela has +1 lvls on Lizzi (39 vs 40); A L39 warlock and a L40 rogue square off!; 0/30/0 vs 0/31/0; Judela wins by 59 TBRs! |
| 02:22.40 | Thrae | !mload armorystats |
| 02:22.40 | ThraeBot | Loaded [armorystats] |
| 02:22.58 | Thrae | !vs us stormrage sagart us stormrage draoi |
| 02:23.00 | ThraeBot | Thrae: Sagart vs Draoi! A L70 priest and a L70 druid square off!; 17/0/44 vs 1/41/19; Sagart wins by 35 TBRs! |
| 02:23.04 | Thrae | There |
| 02:23.56 | Tuller | !vs us lothar tuller us lothar esthere |
| 02:23.59 | ThraeBot | Tuller: Tuller vs Esthere! A L70 druid and a L70 rogue square off!; 33/0/28 vs 44/0/17; Esthere wins by 171 TBRs! |
| 02:24.18 | Thrae | Heh, OOMKIN |
| 02:24.31 | Tuller | false, hybrid healer :P |
| 02:24.36 | Thrae | Wait, that's not even a OOMKIN |
| 02:24.43 | Thrae | So yeah, you should lose |
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| 02:24.56 | Tuller | !vs us lothar tire us lothar esthere |
| 02:24.57 | ThraeBot | Tuller: Tire vs Esthere! A L70 hunter and a L70 rogue square off!; 10/46/5 vs 44/0/17; Esthere wins by 519 TBRs! ***OWNED!*** |
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| 02:25.01 | Tuller | hahaha |
| 02:25.19 | Thrae | !c us lothar esthere |
| 02:25.21 | ThraeBot | Thrae: Esthere, Level 70 Night Elf Rogue (44/0/17). 8114 HP; +10 Energy; 1498 AP; 300.6 Melee DPS; 24.08% melee crit; 208 melee hit; 22.67% dodge; 23 resilience; 10 nature resist (+10);[[ TBR: 1652 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/35g9ev ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/2vdsdn ][ Updated: Wed Sep 5 22:35:32 2007 ]] |
| 02:25.37 | Thrae | !c us lothar tire |
| 02:25.39 | ThraeBot | Thrae: Tire, Level 70 Dwarf Hunter (10/46/5). 7238 HP; 6133 Mana; 101 mana regen; 22 mp5; 4536 Armour; 1145 AP; 178.6 Melee DPS; 13.32% melee crit; 54 melee hit; 1468 RAP; 241.3 Ranged DPS; 18.6% ranged crit; 54 ranged hit; 10.83% dodge; 10 frost resist (+10);[[ TBR: 1133 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/2spapk ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/39u5s3 ][ Updated: Wed Sep 5 22:36:30 2007 ]] |
| 02:25.57 | Tuller | esthere's somewhat raid geared, tire's just getting around to dungeon 3 |
| 02:26.19 | Tuller | kara geared that is |
| 02:26.29 | Guillotine | !c us Draenor Guillotine |
| 02:26.32 | ThraeBot | Guillotine: Guillotine, Level 70 Night Elf Druid (0/46/15). 12224 HP; 5345 Mana; 119 mana regen; 6 mp5; 18584 Armour; 1962 AP; 217.5 Melee DPS; 31.5% melee crit; 101 melee hit; 33 +heal; 42 defense; 28.77% dodge; 26 resilience; 10 nature resist (+10);[[ TBR: 1802 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/2qb2s9 ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/37fuup ][ Updated: Wed Sep 5 22:38:04 2007 ]] |
| 02:26.50 | Guillotine | eh, in cat gear |
| 02:27.03 | Thrae | Guillotine: Yes, it detects if you're in cat or bear form ;) |
| 02:27.46 | Guillotine | I can't find a working c compiler for vista :( |
| 02:28.24 | cogwheel | Guillotine: visual studio express |
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| 02:28.56 | Guillotine | cogwheel: its installing right now :) probably my last try |
| 02:28.57 | cogwheel | or even the 2008 beta |
| 02:29.31 | Guillotine | the said thing is I have full visual studio, but its at my old house and won't be back there to pick it up for 2 weeks. I may just wait |
| 02:29.45 | Tuller | !c us lothar barboso vs us lothar esthere |
| 02:29.45 | ThraeBot | Tuller: esthere is not the character you are looking for! |
| 02:30.07 | Shirik | Guillotine: 2008 VS beta is nice |
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| 02:30.15 | Shirik | and even handles UAC manifesting for you |
| 02:30.25 | Tuller | bah, I wanted to test my friend who's at equal gear to me :P |
| 02:30.39 | Guillotine | bleh, do I have to make a whole project to compile c code in VSE? or can I just compile the one file |
| 02:30.53 | Shirik | how do you compile one file? |
| 02:30.55 | Shirik | make an object file? |
| 02:31.03 | JoshBorke | holy shit |
| 02:31.08 | JoshBorke | 1299$ wireless AP |
| 02:31.12 | Shirik | wtf? |
| 02:31.15 | Guillotine | c, not c++ |
| 02:31.17 | JoshBorke | Shirik: luac? |
| 02:31.23 | Shirik | ~lart JoshBorke |
| 02:31.23 | purl | forces JoshBorke to use Outlook Express |
| 02:31.35 | Guillotine | josh: we're talking about c I think :P |
| 02:31.35 | JoshBorke | it's a cisco 802.11n compliant AP |
| 02:31.36 | Shirik | Guillotine: Never really figured out how to compile C manually, never tried |
| 02:31.42 | Shirik | I didn't think it would be different from C++ |
| 02:31.44 | JoshBorke | cc file.c |
| 02:32.06 | Guillotine | joshborke: what program do you have that gives the cc command? |
| 02:32.20 | Thrae | Guillotine: http://msdn2.microsoft.com/en-us/express/aa975050.aspx <-- Visual Studio Express |
| 02:32.34 | Guillotine | Thrae: I know, I have it |
| 02:32.40 | Guillotine | just intsalled it :) |
| 02:32.42 | JoshBorke | Guillotine: you have to install a c compiler |
| 02:32.51 | Thrae | The C++ compiler can compile C just fine |
| 02:32.54 | Guillotine | Joshborke: I know, I have two :P neither gives gcc |
| 02:33.05 | Guillotine | neither gives cc* |
| 02:33.07 | JoshBorke | that doesn't mean they can't compile it |
| 02:33.11 | Guillotine | one gives gcc, the other doesn't seem to give any |
| 02:33.12 | Guillotine | I know |
| 02:33.20 | Guillotine | I was referring to the specific command you gave |
| 02:33.21 | Thrae | JoshBorke: GNU gcc hasn't been properly ported to Vista yet, even through Cygwin / Mingw |
| 02:33.43 | JoshBorke | mine was for linux :-D |
| 02:34.06 | JoshBorke | did you try LCC-Win32? |
| 02:34.38 | Shirik | Thrae: That wasn't my question |
| 02:34.55 | Shirik | I meant does it involve the same "compile, link, [manifest]" operation that C++ does |
| 02:35.00 | JoshBorke | i have no idea what the order of this conversation is going btw |
| 02:35.17 | JoshBorke | Shirik: C (from what i recall) is compile, link, and <something> else |
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| 02:35.52 | JoshBorke | yea, pretty much compile and link |
| 02:37.13 | Tuller | http://i12.tinypic.com/4zmj8ec.png ... I'm thinking bags in a single row inside the frame where the first row of items normally are, with a toggle somewhereish |
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| 02:37.46 | JoshBorke | what are the buttons on the side? |
| 02:37.53 | Tuller | item type filters |
| 02:38.05 | JoshBorke | i agree with the bag statement |
| 02:38.10 | JoshBorke | what are the round buttons at the bottom? |
| 02:38.24 | Tuller | quality filters |
| 02:38.30 | JoshBorke | awesome |
| 02:38.40 | JoshBorke | that's what i thought they were :-D |
| 02:39.03 | Tuller | orange is arguably not necessary :P |
| 02:39.26 | JoshBorke | they could look for their atiesh |
| 02:39.42 | JoshBorke | or azinoth blades |
| 02:39.50 | JoshBorke | at least you don't have any red |
| 02:40.35 | Tuller | yeah |
| 02:40.50 | Tuller | in the even those happen, I'll just make the orange filter do orange or greater |
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| 02:47.48 | Lunessa | At long last, after having been here since 12:30pm local time, I'm all caught up. |
| 02:48.59 | JoshBorke | writing coherent emails when you're tired is apparently a very difficult thing to do |
| 02:49.13 | JoshBorke | s/tired/tired and hungry/ |
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| 02:53.36 | Lunessa | JoshBorke: Hell, I can't even write them when I'm Sober, rested and well-fed. |
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| 02:55.22 | JoshBorke | wb ckk |
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| 03:16.41 | TS|Skrom_ | ping deltron |
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| 03:18.51 | JoshBorke | nn all |
| 03:19.31 | JoshBorke | ~botmail for Shirik CTL/ACE2/ROCK/DONGLE/KHAOS/SEA/LS RDX KTHXBAI!!!!1111ONEONEOENOENON |
| 03:19.40 | JoshBorke | Shirik: <3 |
| 03:20.46 | Tuller | haha |
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| 03:23.52 | Guillotine | art3mis: ping |
| 03:23.54 | Guillotine | I hate you |
| 03:23.58 | Guillotine | and your new addon |
| 03:24.48 | Guillotine | ~lart art3mis |
| 03:24.48 | purl | pours gasoline all over art3mis, ignites the fire, and then enjoys some toasty marshmallows with the glorious blaze |
| 03:25.49 | Kaydeethree | mmm. marshmallows. |
| 03:27.54 | Saint-N | laugh whys that guill? |
| 03:28.25 | Saint-N | aside from the obvious ;) |
| 03:30.59 | Guillotine | he spent the time to make http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info7517-HelloKittyIslandAdventure.html -_- |
| 03:32.07 | Cairenn | Saint-N == art3mis |
| 03:33.02 | Saint-N | this is work |
| 03:33.06 | Saint-N | art3mis is home ;P |
| 03:33.22 | Saint-N | and you think its an abomination now, wait til i update it tomorrow morning ;P |
| 03:34.06 | Thunder_Child | wtb 1 freakin name |
| 03:34.21 | Saint-N | somehow it seems so wrong for a aperson named Dreadlorde to comment on the hello kitty ui with "awesome! |
| 03:34.38 | TS|Skrom_ | 1$ do I hear 1$? |
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| 03:34.41 | Saint-N | ive used this longer than you've known about irc ;P |
| 03:34.47 | Saint-N | so nah |
| 03:34.51 | Saint-N | nyah |
| 03:34.54 | Saint-N | ;P |
| 03:35.18 | Thunder_Child | that doesnt negate having one name |
| 03:35.40 | Cairenn | Saint-N: only concern I have about the mod (besides the fact that it's Hello Kitty to begin with) is possible copyright violations, using the graphics and name |
| 03:35.59 | Saint-N | nods if they get pissy itll go bye bye |
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| 03:37.26 | Cairenn | just so long as you've already thought about it |
| 03:37.33 | Saint-N | yup |
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| 03:37.47 | Cairenn | if they contact us, we'll have to pull it, don't want you throwing a hissy at me about it |
| 03:38.13 | TS|Skrom_ | what if he throws a hersy? |
| 03:38.27 | Cairenn | meh. that'd be okay |
| 03:38.40 | Saint-N | laugh |
| 03:38.49 | TS|Skrom_ | don't worry, god punished me for being a smartass |
| 03:38.58 | TS|Skrom_ | I just died running through tanaris because I had windowed over to type that |
| 03:39.01 | Saint-N | better a smartass than a dumbass ;P |
| 03:39.28 | Saint-N | if they ask you to pull it feel free, but i wanna see the email for posterity ;P |
| 03:40.07 | Saint-N | appearantly a gradient IS a texture |
| 03:40.16 | Saint-N | and skinnging means to "change the colour of something" |
| 03:40.27 | Saint-N | stupid wowace losers |
| 03:40.55 | Cairenn | o.O |
| 03:41.09 | Saint-N | bitching about the addon skinner |
| 03:41.29 | Saint-N | and its inability to do anything other than gradient and colour, it doesnt allow for textures or anything |
| 03:41.37 | Mr_Rabies2 | wow |
| 03:41.43 | Mr_Rabies2 | someone just had a mazzlegasm in shattrath |
| 03:41.44 | Mr_Rabies2 | D: |
| 03:41.49 | Saint-N | laugh |
| 03:41.54 | Cairenn | *shudder* |
| 03:42.10 | Saint-N | why if *I* could make an installer i'd totally make it chant hello kitty stuff ;P |
| 03:42.16 | clad|book | quick someone make a "i was playing the game with my dad, and i downloaded this UI thats REALLY KEWL" |
| 03:42.27 | clad|book | "But my dad heard me have a mazzlegasm, and then i had to talk wit him about sex" |
| 03:42.41 | Saint-N | hah |
| 03:42.46 | clad|book | "and he told me how when he was a kid, he messed around with boys too, but i didn't want to know that my dad ever did gay stuff thats really gross" |
| 03:42.58 | buu | Fascinating. |
| 03:43.11 | clad|book | "i dont know whether to tell my mom, and i'm really uncomfortable playing the game with dad now.. stoopid UIs" |
| 03:43.27 | Saint-N | and ironicly funny if you pretend that its actually clad saying it ;P |
| 03:43.32 | clad|book | lol |
| 03:43.34 | clad|book | i hate gay people |
| 03:43.45 | *** kick/#wowi-lounge [clad|book!n=cladhair@WoWUIDev/WoWI/Featured/Dongle/cladhaire] by clad|book (fag) |
| 03:43.48 | Saint-N | and so does your boyfriend? |
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| 03:44.02 | Saint-N | "im not gay but my boyfriend is" |
| 03:44.03 | Cairenn | you laugh - we had someone email us that she was cancelling her sons' accounts because of the mazzlegasm and how she had to explain sex to her [teenage] boys and stuff |
| 03:44.11 | clad|book | hahahahahaha |
| 03:44.15 | clad|book | you should have posted it somewhere |
| 03:44.17 | Saint-N | thats....so....awesome.... |
| 03:44.18 | clad|book | i wanna see :P |
| 03:44.22 | Mr_Rabies2 | wait |
| 03:44.24 | Mr_Rabies2 | teenage boys |
| 03:44.31 | Saint-N | thats almost as epic as the succubus |
| 03:44.32 | Mr_Rabies2 | chances are they knew more about it than her |
| 03:44.34 | Cairenn | oh, that was ages ago, I don't think I have it any more, lemme see |
| 03:45.01 | cogwheel | fuck 'em, imo |
| 03:45.19 | Saint-N | clad|book: go make me a proper skinner |
| 03:45.28 | clad|book | that was easy |
| 03:45.29 | Saint-N | clad|book: something that i can use textures in and stuff |
| 03:45.31 | clad|book | what next? |
| 03:45.55 | Saint-N | i suppose i could use some waffles |
| 03:46.13 | cogwheel | Saint-N: if you're going to spend the time getting the art made, you don't need an addon |
| 03:46.28 | Mr_Rabies2 | i've got nothing against mazzle but having an addon yell something i didn't tell it to is grounds for uninstallation |
| 03:46.38 | Saint-N | yeah but whos gonna make me all the art cog ;) |
| 03:46.40 | Mr_Rabies2 | and possibly complaining on their userpage :O |
| 03:47.22 | Saint-N | hehe lets get it classified as an exploit because it yells without a keypress ;P |
| 03:48.35 | Saint-N | cogwheel: so right now i just made it shades of pink with skinner... i dont know enough about the layouts(even from kings stuff) and i suck REALLY bad at art on my own |
| 03:48.43 | Cairenn | can't find the email any more |
| 03:49.02 | Saint-N | so skinning it in any way other than an addon someone made is really my only option |
| 03:49.30 | cogwheel | but you'll still need textures... |
| 03:49.34 | cogwheel | one way or another |
| 03:49.46 | Saint-N | ive got the texture i want already |
| 03:49.51 | Saint-N | just need it tiled |
| 03:50.03 | cogwheel | L2photoshoporgimporpaint.net imo :P |
| 03:50.09 | Saint-N | heh |
| 03:50.27 | Saint-N | mspaint |
| 03:50.29 | Saint-N | heh |
| 03:50.39 | Mr_Rabies2 | i heard paint.net wasn't too bad |
| 03:50.47 | cogwheel | paint.net's pretty cool, actually |
| 03:51.09 | cogwheel | the UI's a bit sluggish since it's VM'ed, but it's better than Java and the interface is MUCH better than the gimp |
| 03:51.13 | Saint-N | i might have to follow that w3 guide for changing textures and stuff |
| 03:51.27 | Saint-N | much better interface than gimp you say? |
| 03:51.31 | Saint-N | ;) |
| 03:51.52 | Saint-N | a couple of pieces of cardboard taped to the side of your monitor would improve the gimperface |
| 03:51.59 | Cairenn | oh yes |
| 03:52.44 | cogwheel | paint.net really fits somewhere in between ms paint and photoshop |
| 03:52.48 | Iriel | Cairenn: As with almost anything, gimp makes more sense with practice as you figure out its idioms.. Photoshop users hate it initially because it's different. |
| 03:52.51 | cogwheel | (more towards photoshop) |
| 03:53.22 | cogwheel | brb... download's done so i can finally reboot for VS08 install |
| 03:53.41 | Saint-N | gimps pretty powerful considering its size though |
| 03:53.45 | Saint-N | ill give it that |
| 03:53.48 | bleeter | there's a fork of gimp that implements the photoshop UI, for those who don't have the required .. to handle transition |
| 03:53.53 | Cairenn | I have always been able to switch back and forth between PhotoShop and PaintShopPro with np, but found gimp massively confusing |
| 03:54.05 | Saint-N | it was made by unix geeks |
| 03:54.09 | Saint-N | that explains it all |
| 03:54.59 | Saint-N | meh welp im done with work now, hope this stupid thing holds together over night ;P |
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| 04:02.02 | Guillotine | I find gimp easy and PhotoShop confusing. but thats probably b/c I used GIMP first |
| 04:02.25 | Thrae | The gimps are easy because they can't run. |
| 04:02.35 | Guillotine | *sigh* |
| 04:02.36 | bleeter | I used AmigaPaint first, GIMP and Photoshop's UI are both crap ;) |
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| 04:03.43 | Thrae | http://bash.org/?495715 |
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| 04:11.49 | clad|book | art3mis: Any word on the iPaq? |
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| 04:15.15 | clad|book | woot! http://www.amazon.com/World-Warcraft-Programming-Reference-Creating/dp/0470229810/ref=sr_1_2/105-9322679-5650064?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1189052097&sr=8-2 |
| 04:16.13 | bleeter | clad|book: think you could've found a longer URL for that? |
| 04:16.21 | clad|book | !t http://www.amazon.com/World-Warcraft-Programming-Reference-Creating/dp/0470229810/ref=sr_1_2/105-9322679-5650064?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1189052097&sr=8-2 |
| 04:16.22 | ThraeBot | clad|book: http://tinyurl.com/34c9uk |
| 04:16.23 | clad|book | poo poo face |
| 04:16.30 | Shirik | huh |
| 04:16.32 | clad|book | http://www.wiley.com/WileyCDA/WileyTitle/productCd-0470229810.html better? |
| 04:16.32 | Shirik | UC got raided |
| 04:16.38 | Shirik | they.... got slightly annihilated |
| 04:16.51 | clad|book | raided how? |
| 04:16.52 | clad|book | UC what? |
| 04:16.59 | Shirik | as in 40 lv 70 alliance |
| 04:17.05 | clad|book | oh, undercity |
| 04:17.06 | clad|book | jesus |
| 04:17.07 | Shirik | yeah |
| 04:17.12 | clad|book | I'm like what happened to the schools in california |
| 04:17.16 | clad|book | how did they get "raided" |
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| 04:17.24 | Shirik | haha |
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| 04:20.04 | Shirik | oh shit |
| 04:20.13 | Shirik | in response, there are now 3 full 40 man 70 horde raids |
| 04:20.19 | Shirik | and we're all headed to SW |
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| 04:20.53 | Tierrie | woah i just got this awesome PVR for my computer |
| 04:20.58 | Tierrie | now i can watch tv timeshifted! |
| 04:21.13 | Tierrie | its so awesome i could be happy |
| 04:23.04 | Rallion | UC is a tough city to attack |
| 04:23.23 | Shirik | hence the "slightly annihilated" part |
| 04:24.10 | clad|sleep | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:24.17 | Rallion | I went there as part of a group of 80, it was...unpleasant |
| 04:24.20 | clad|sleep | and WHY ON EARTH they left it in our hotel room? |
| 04:24.48 | Rallion | is that a dead cat made out of a towel? |
| 04:24.51 | bleeter | clad|sleep: gotta say, I love Amazon's return when I search for all books you've been involved with ;) |
| 04:24.56 | bleeter | tho I think I've mentioned that before |
| 04:25.15 | clad|sleep | hehe didn't you know i'm a fanatical christian philosopher? |
| 04:25.27 | Iriel | clad: That's the wierdest towel wrapping job i've ever seen.. what's it supposed to be? A small child? a turkey? |
| 04:25.28 | clad|sleep | 800 entries in my rss reader |
| 04:25.52 | clad|sleep | anyone wanna read em for me? |
| 04:25.54 | clad|sleep | Iriel: a trussed up bird is the BEST we've come up with |
| 04:25.56 | Shirik | damn, I forgot what it's like to have 70 people here |
| 04:25.58 | Shirik | 40* |
| 04:26.08 | clad|sleep | i didn't want to touch it, i kicked it across the room when we went to sleep, iirc |
| 04:26.19 | Shirik | my UI isn't configured for 40 >< |
| 04:26.30 | Rallion | a 'christian radio host' used to come in and talk to me when I used to work at a Borders Cafe...WORST part of the whole job, right there |
| 04:29.10 | Rallion | he came in one day with aerial photos of the pentagon, and while he was showing them to me, he was practically shouting something along the lines of "Do you see it? Do you see the six rings? That's it! That |
| 04:29.20 | clad|sleep | hahaha |
| 04:29.27 | Rallion | ...That's what was prophesized!" |
| 04:29.33 | Cairenn | clad|sleep: it's a skinned rabbit |
| 04:29.45 | clad|sleep | a skinned rabbit.. interesting :P |
| 04:30.41 | Cairenn | actually, I suppose that one isn't supposed to be a skinned version, but that's what it is alright, a rabbit |
| 04:31.05 | Cairenn|afk | night guys |
| 04:31.10 | clad|sleep | night Cairenn|afk |
| 04:31.36 | bleeter | gnight Cairenn|afk rest well |
| 04:31.51 | sioraiocht | only a canadian would think that's a rabbit, Cairenn|afk |
| 04:31.58 | sioraiocht | what next, it's a MOOSE? |
| 04:32.57 | clad|sleep | hahaha |
| 04:33.01 | clad|sleep | night all |
| 04:33.02 | Esamynn | night Cairenn|afk |
| 04:33.10 | Esamynn | night clad|sleep |
| 04:35.22 | Thunder_Child | why why why? http://artificialtruth.com/v/friends/parties_001/2003829party/2003+8-29+Party+053.jpg.html |
| 04:35.52 | clad|sleep | why not? |
| 04:35.54 | clad|sleep | boobies scare you, or just those? |
| 04:36.12 | clad|sleep | ther'es some horribly incriminating pictures of clad on this website, lol |
| 04:36.12 | Thunder_Child | more along the lines of..why are you taking pic of em? |
| 04:36.15 | clad|sleep | i was afraid to click |
| 04:36.20 | clad|sleep | Thunder_Child: why not? |
| 04:36.34 | Thunder_Child | seems like a waste |
| 04:36.40 | clad|sleep | i like boobies as much as the next guy |
| 04:36.50 | Thunder_Child | are you sure? |
| 04:36.56 | clad|sleep | yes, actually |
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| 04:37.22 | clad|sleep | have you ever asked me about my sexuality, or just assumed that because I've been with my boyfriend for three years that I'm a flaming torch who thinks boobies are gross? |
| 04:37.30 | clad|sleep | (said in a sarcastically, non-offended tone) |
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| 04:38.53 | Thunder_Child | sure why not...i t prolly has nothing to do with the fact that, yea, you like boobies more than me...but your statement is still wrong because you dont know how much the next guy like them |
| 04:40.01 | clad|sleep | I like lots of things, and I'm relatively confident that I have an appropriate level of zeal |
| 04:40.02 | clad|sleep | ;-) |
| 04:40.09 | clad|sleep | regardless its hardly wasteful |
| 04:40.12 | clad|sleep | when you get to look at them too |
| 04:41.09 | Thunder_Child | not out of interest tbh |
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| 05:14.25 | art3mis | clad you still around? |
| 05:14.52 | art3mis | or anyone for that matter |
| 05:14.57 | Iriel | i'm not |
| 05:14.58 | Iriel | 8-) |
| 05:15.04 | art3mis | if i were to follow kings example of "theme"ing wow |
| 05:15.26 | art3mis | would the files need to reside in the data/interface/stuff folder for it to recognize the theme correctly? |
| 05:15.33 | art3mis | or has that structure changed |
| 05:16.21 | Iriel | Hm, Legorol had mapped out where files could be placed to make that happen, I /think/ you can override stuff in Interface but I havent had the need to test it |
| 05:17.57 | art3mis | the override isnt the problem |
| 05:18.02 | art3mis | that much i KNOW can happen |
| 05:18.10 | art3mis | wowemu taught me that ;P |
| 05:18.32 | art3mis | the part im curious about is is it data/interface or just interface in relation to wow.exe ? |
| 05:20.42 | Iriel | That's the part I was referring to.. i /think/ you can place files in Interface, but i'm not sure |
| 05:21.18 | art3mis | ahh okay i misread |
| 05:21.29 | art3mis | i guess trial and error will tell me too ;P |
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| 05:50.54 | Mr_Rabies2 | ooh |
| 05:51.00 | Mr_Rabies2 | The Nethermine Ravager is tamable now |
| 05:51.02 | Mr_Rabies2 | on 2.2 |
| 05:51.10 | Mr_Rabies2 | sounds like i have a reason to get my hunter to 70 |
| 05:58.40 | art3mis | what file is interface stored in? |
| 06:00.54 | art3mis | nm found it |
| 06:24.46 | Corrodias | curator, once again, dropped the damn hunter/mage/warlock gloves. he also drops a garona's ring, but the hunter alt of one of our mages won it. |
| 06:24.51 | Corrodias | i'm going to be running karazhan forever |
| 06:25.10 | art3mis | have you thought of killing your guild? |
| 06:25.41 | art3mis | its obviously thier fault ;) |
| 06:25.48 | Corrodias | of course! |
| 06:26.09 | art3mis | meh im not looking forward to this task |
| 06:26.15 | art3mis | well i partially am |
| 06:26.22 | art3mis | but not as much as you're think |
| 06:26.29 | art3mis | you'd |
| 06:26.51 | Mr_Rabies2 | man |
| 06:26.55 | Mr_Rabies2 | my whole kara run has t4 |
| 06:27.10 | Mr_Rabies2 | everyone was like "man i need my second set" |
| 06:27.31 | Mr_Rabies2 | i had to beat them away so i could get mah gloves |
| 06:32.46 | Corrodias | the prince bugged for my group today and we couldn't fix him |
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| 06:54.16 | art3mis | anyone awake thats fgamiliar with gimp? |
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| 07:33.35 | art3mis | sweet |
| 07:33.42 | art3mis | it does just need to be in the interface folder |
| 07:33.56 | art3mis | im gonna skin the entire interface!!! |
| 07:34.09 | art3mis | with pink and green and little flowers ;P |
| 07:34.33 | Thunder_Child | i wonder if i can get a court order to ban you from moding the UI? |
| 07:34.57 | Thunder_Child | hmm...they would prolly lock me up if i came in with a request like that |
| 07:35.02 | art3mis | possibly |
| 07:35.16 | Thunder_Child | oh well, back to the drawing board |
| 07:35.35 | art3mis | "this guy in a game i play online is making a pink and green flowered hello kitty interface that i dont have to use, can you lock him up pelase?! |
| 07:35.56 | art3mis | it might work if you use doe-eyes though ;) |
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| 07:36.20 | Thunder_Child | you think that would work?....i'd have to go kill a doe first though |
| 07:36.30 | art3mis | possibly |
| 07:36.39 | grephead | art3mis: all he has to do is say it is for your own good. haven't you been watching the crap that gets passed as laws? |
| 07:36.40 | art3mis | doh...a deer....a female deer |
| 07:36.51 | Thunder_Child | ray a drop of golden sun |
| 07:36.59 | Thunder_Child | damn, now thats stuck in my head |
| 07:37.02 | art3mis | ray a guy i knew in school |
| 07:37.17 | grephead | doh a beer, a real good beer, ray the guy who sells me beer... |
| 07:38.19 | art3mis | http://www.gothi.ca/Stuff/test.png |
| 07:38.27 | Thunder_Child | hmm..someone needs to make a blue/red offset UI for the cheesey 3D glasses |
| 07:38.29 | art3mis | check out how im skinning all the blizz frames ;P |
| 07:38.45 | art3mis | actually that would be pretty rad |
| 07:39.31 | Thunder_Child | indeed..though because the game is not structured that way, if you looked at anything else i would be bad |
| 07:39.54 | Thunder_Child | it* |
| 07:40.03 | art3mis | but the interface would look 3d |
| 07:40.20 | Thunder_Child | yes, but everything else would look like crap |
| 07:40.22 | art3mis | it would be like you've got this wierd box on yer head and give perspective |
| 07:40.41 | art3mis | who needs to see whats going on, you watch yer addons for that info ;P |
| 07:40.55 | art3mis | click the link and tell me whatcha think |
| 07:41.06 | art3mis | if it fills you with murderous rage it's perfect ;P |
| 07:41.14 | Thunder_Child | i saw it....makes me sad more than anything else |
| 07:41.28 | art3mis | why sad? |
| 07:41.48 | Thunder_Child | loing faith in humanity again |
| 07:41.55 | Thunder_Child | losing* |
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| 07:43.24 | art3mis | heh would almost 60 downloads from wowi make that fall faster? |
| 07:43.37 | Thunder_Child | yes |
| 07:43.58 | art3mis | correction |
| 07:44.10 | art3mis | 56 cycircled and 42 hkui |
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| 08:47.38 | sag_ich_nicht | mhm |
| 08:49.07 | sag_ich_nicht | any paladin here that has specced imp. conc. aura? |
| 08:55.13 | Nom- | i do sometimes when i'm heal spec |
| 08:56.25 | sag_ich_nicht | can you tell me what the tooltip says when you've specced it? i'm not sure what the the 15% effect increase of the talent does |
| 08:56.41 | Nom- | I'm not heal specced at the moment |
| 08:56.55 | Nom- | But the tooltip for the concentration aura button says 50% chance to not lose casting time |
| 08:57.09 | Nom- | It doesn't mention the 30% reducition to silence duration and whatnot |
| 08:57.18 | sag_ich_nicht | okay |
| 08:57.21 | sag_ich_nicht | strange |
| 08:57.36 | sag_ich_nicht | because the normal reduction is 30% |
| 08:58.08 | sag_ich_nicht | and 30*.15+30=34.5, 30+15=45, so 50%=o_O |
| 08:59.28 | sag_ich_nicht | you sure it says 50%? |
| 09:00.40 | Nom- | i think so |
| 09:00.59 | Nom- | isn't it normally 35% ? |
| 09:01.14 | sag_ich_nicht | uh |
| 09:01.15 | sag_ich_nicht | hold |
| 09:01.39 | Nom- | indeed it is |
| 09:01.42 | Nom- | normally 35% |
| 09:01.48 | Nom- | http://www.wowhead.com/?spell=19746 |
| 09:01.59 | sag_ich_nicht | still makes no sense |
| 09:02.11 | Nom- | why? |
| 09:02.19 | Nom- | 35+15 = 50 |
| 09:02.23 | sag_ich_nicht | yeah |
| 09:02.39 | sag_ich_nicht | 35*0.15+35=40.25 |
| 09:02.53 | Nom- | errw |
| 09:02.53 | sag_ich_nicht | tooltip description and behaviour are inconsistent |
| 09:02.59 | sag_ich_nicht | compare to righteous fury tooltip |
| 09:03.00 | Nom- | where are you getting the *0.15 from ? |
| 09:03.44 | Punkie` | it's 15% more, not 15% of the 35% |
| 09:03.52 | sag_ich_nicht | Punkie` i realize that |
| 09:04.02 | sag_ich_nicht | but that is inconsistent with the tooltip descriptions |
| 09:04.10 | sag_ich_nicht | compare to imp. righteous fury tooltip |
| 09:04.28 | Punkie` | ah well |
| 09:04.34 | Nom- | It's a 15% increase... flat increase... the only time it's a multiplicative affect is when it's more than one aura/spell/talent reducing the interrupt chance |
| 09:04.43 | Nom- | in fact, concentration aura is special |
| 09:04.50 | Nom- | it's an additive formula |
| 09:05.11 | sag_ich_nicht | i am not complaining about the results or they way you get there, i'm complaining about the description of it :P |
| 09:05.28 | Nom- | There's nothing wrong... it says, 50% reduction to interrupt |
| 09:05.31 | Punkie` | you should complain less |
| 09:05.35 | sag_ich_nicht | Nom-: the 0.15 are because *.15=same as writing 35*100*15 |
| 09:05.42 | Punkie` | you seem to do it a lot |
| 09:05.46 | sag_ich_nicht | Punkie` it's the same bullshit as with the mage talents |
| 09:05.52 | Punkie` | maybe less complaining would make you a happier person |
| 09:05.58 | sag_ich_nicht | i am from vienna |
| 09:06.00 | Nom- | As I said, it is ONLY multiplicative when it's multiple effects |
| 09:06.06 | Nom- | Concentration aura is a single effect |
| 09:06.26 | sag_ich_nicht | Nom- as _I_ said, compare to description and effect of imp. righteous fury |
| 09:07.00 | sag_ich_nicht | [11:05] <sag_ich_nicht> i am from vienna <--complaining is in my nature :O |
| 09:07.29 | Nom- | apples and oranges |
| 09:07.36 | Nom- | I personally think the wording is fine |
| 09:07.56 | sag_ich_nicht | no, not apples and oranges, it's the same description but one is additive the other multiplicative |
| 09:08.18 | Nom- | last i checked, they're both additive |
| 09:08.27 | sag_ich_nicht | CHING RONG |
| 09:08.39 | sag_ich_nicht | imp. righteous fury=90% threat from holy spells |
| 09:09.03 | sag_ich_nicht | base is 60% more |
| 09:09.04 | Punkie` | Nom-: no point in arguing, you'll just get annoyed like he is |
| 09:09.33 | Nom- | i don't get annoyed at people on the internet |
| 09:09.35 | Nom- | There's no point |
| 09:09.45 | Punkie` | :D |
| 09:09.47 | sag_ich_nicht | now let's see, 60*.5+60=90 |
| 09:09.55 | Nom- | actually, the wording ... read it closer |
| 09:10.11 | sag_ich_nicht | while 60+50=110 |
| 09:10.12 | Nom- | "Increases the effect of your Concentration aura by an additional 15%" |
| 09:10.13 | sag_ich_nicht | *gasp* |
| 09:10.44 | Nom- | "and increases the threat generated by your Righteous Fury spell by 50%" |
| 09:11.10 | Nom- | the key difference I see is "additional" |
| 09:11.29 | Punkie` | this is true |
| 09:11.37 | Nom- | now...correct me if i'm wrong here, but additional would imply the effect is additive |
| 09:14.53 | sag_ich_nicht | not neccesairly, but you are right, the tooltip is not wrong, but might be missleading some players. a better wording would probably be "Increases the effect of your Concentration aura to 50%", leaving no doubt :P |
| 09:16.03 | Nom- | Personally I don't mind it either way... Most people aren't going to bother with improved concentration aura for the increased effect |
| 09:16.07 | Nom- | That's just a slight bonus |
| 09:16.44 | Nom- | I get it just for fights like Gruul etc, the 30% reduction to silience effects is awesome |
| 09:16.53 | Nom- | *silence |
| 09:20.03 | Nom- | I reckon I'm going to order 'za for dinner |
| 09:20.12 | Nom- | Haven't had Pizza for ages |
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| 09:24.42 | Punkie` | awesome |
| 09:24.47 | Punkie` | what toppings? :o |
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| 09:52.38 | Nom- | Supreme |
| 09:52.40 | Nom- | just arrived :D |
| 09:52.47 | Punkie` | win |
| 09:52.57 | Nom- | We're not talking the Pizza Hut supreme either |
| 09:53.04 | Nom- | I used to work at this store, they make the best pizzas ever |
| 09:53.37 | Nom- | They don't mess around when it comes to toppings |
| 09:58.01 | Punkie` | I don't order pizza from mainstream brands really |
| 09:58.08 | Punkie` | they suck and are lousy with toppings |
| 09:58.15 | Punkie` | pizza toppings are serious business! |
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| 10:00.37 | Punkie` | Oh damn you Nom- |
| 10:00.49 | Punkie` | If I wasn't at work right now I'd so be ordering a pizza :( |
| 10:01.00 | sag_ich_nicht | [11:16] <Nom-> I get it just for fights like Gruul etc, the 30% reduction to silience effects is awesome <--yes. |
| 10:01.09 | sag_ich_nicht | my point exactly |
| 10:01.24 | sag_ich_nicht | (of getting it, that is) |
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| 10:36.29 | bleeter | aussies: you heard they charged the guys from The Chaser? |
| 10:37.20 | bleeter | canadians: a bunch of australian comics did a fake motorcade, got some rental cars, whacked some canadian flags on it, one of them dressed up as Osama Bin Laden, they got in the car, past the first police cordon |
| 10:37.30 | bleeter | then they got detained and arrested |
| 10:37.35 | bleeter | funny as hell, really. |
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| 10:46.44 | Wraanger | heyaz |
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| 10:52.09 | zenzelezz | "Air Force Mistakenly Transports Live Nukes Across America" |
| 10:52.18 | zenzelezz | "so that's what those red lights meant" |
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| 10:55.16 | Kaso | "live nukes" is a little of a miss-conception |
| 10:55.26 | Kaso | its not like they could have detonated |
| 10:55.44 | zenzelezz | of course, but Joe Average doesn't know that |
| 10:55.52 | zenzelezz | he still believe nuclear reactors all explode like bombs too |
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| 11:10.20 | bleeter | woot, forums back :) |
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| 13:45.22 | zenzelezz | so I'm watching a WoW movie, really great job on recording, editing, music etc... and what do they choose for background music on the end credits? |
| 13:45.27 | zenzelezz | some guy singing Everybody Hurts over Vent |
| 13:45.52 | Osagasu | At least it wasn't the rickroll. |
| 13:45.58 | alestane | lua> tostring(true) |
| 13:45.58 | cladbot | alestane: true, |
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| 14:02.39 | cladhaire | art3mis: Ping |
| 14:03.14 | Lopeppeppy | Morning, Cladhaire and TS|Skrom |
| 14:03.18 | cladhaire | morning. |
| 14:03.28 | alestane | Good morning all. |
| 14:03.45 | alestane | cladhaire: Got good feedback from Iriel so far. |
| 14:04.04 | cladhaire | yeah, read what he said last night |
| 14:04.12 | cladhaire | makes a lot of sense, as always |
| 14:05.25 | alestane | Definitely going to be making some revisions...backwards compatibility is a principle concern of mine, and as I responded this morning we don't want spell buttons to think they should cast "Fortitude" when in the "Power Word" state. |
| 14:06.17 | ts|skrom | herro |
| 14:06.31 | cladhaire | think _minimal_ too |
| 14:06.37 | cladhaire | step by step |
| 14:06.45 | cladhaire | converting, not necessarily adding new features |
| 14:06.53 | alestane | Scope creep was a problem with my first release. |
| 14:06.59 | cladhaire | indeed |
| 14:07.15 | alestane | The UnitIsUnit thing should have waited for tackling UnitFrames. |
| 14:07.31 | alestane | Well, later I will go through and purge. |
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| 14:57.22 | Anvilator | Hi folks. Anyone know if there is a function to get a players Spell Hit Rating? |
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| 14:59.39 | alestane | How does the bliz character screen find it? |
| 15:00.24 | Anvilator | hmm good question. Not entirely sure how i would explore the Blizz interface tbh. |
| 15:00.31 | zenzelezz | ~framexml |
| 15:00.32 | purl | get the official Blizzard Interface AddOn Kit here: http://www.blizzard.com/support/wow/?id=aww01671p or view it online at http://wdn.wowinterface.com/ |
| 15:00.38 | zenzelezz | that, or WDN |
| 15:00.45 | Anvilator | oO nice thanks. |
| 15:02.11 | zenzelezz | of course she is |
| 15:02.44 | alestane | Whose is purl? |
| 15:03.48 | Shirik | purl, who are you? |
| 15:03.50 | purl | Shirik: what are you talking about? |
| 15:03.54 | Shirik | uh.. |
| 15:03.59 | Shirik | purl, who created you? |
| 15:04.11 | Lopeppeppy | I'm having flashbacks to I, Robot. |
| 15:04.12 | Shirik | grr |
| 15:04.21 | Shirik | ~author |
| 15:04.24 | Industrial | hmmz "nore", is that a good english word? as in, is not either |
| 15:04.35 | alestane | nor, no e. |
| 15:04.36 | Lopeppeppy | "Either, or, neither, nor" |
| 15:04.44 | Industrial | thanks. |
| 15:05.13 | alestane | "Nor" can sometimes be used in positive contexts in particular cases IIRC. |
| 15:06.06 | Lopeppeppy | More formal language has that sorta quirk. |
| 15:06.19 | nevcairiel | Shirik: |
| 15:06.21 | nevcairiel | ~timriker |
| 15:06.22 | purl | hmm... timriker is my owner http://rikers.org/ mailto:Tim@Rikers.org mailto:TimR@Debian.org maintainer of BZFlag, member of a ton of open source projects http://www.advogato.com/person/timriker/ http://sourceforge.net/users/timriker/ the guy who GPL'd SCO's ABI files, giving every Linux user the right to use them ;-), or a very cool guy. |
| 15:06.28 | Shirik | that's not the one I was looking for |
| 15:06.31 | Shirik | but that works too |
| 15:10.22 | nevcairiel | http://blootbot.sourceforge.net/ |
| 15:10.25 | nevcairiel | maybe that ? :) |
| 15:16.03 | Anvilator | Hmm the only reference i can find in the PaperDollFrame is "PaperDollFrame_SetRating(stat3, CR_HIT_SPELL);", but i cant seem to find the function that gets calculates it. |
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| 15:17.04 | zenzelezz | time to look at function PaperDollFrame_SetRating then =) |
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| 15:21.29 | Anvilator | Got it thanks. SpellHitRating = GetCombatRating(combatRatingIdentifier) |
| 15:22.02 | Anvilator | and hit is "3" |
| 15:22.09 | zenzelezz | blasted, I should have throught to search for Rating on the wiki |
| 15:22.13 | zenzelezz | nice digging =) |
| 15:22.30 | zenzelezz | http://www.wowwiki.com/API_GetCombatRating has the textual names if you don't want to use cryptic numbers |
| 15:22.45 | Anvilator | cool |
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| 15:24.06 | Shirik | why the jack didn't they just accept strings |
| 15:24.09 | Shirik | bleh |
| 15:24.16 | Shirik | </whine> |
| 15:24.22 | zenzelezz | #define CR_... habit |
| 15:24.23 | JoshBorke | Shirik: hi |
| 15:24.26 | zenzelezz | or const int CR_ |
| 15:24.28 | Lopeppeppy | </cheeze> |
| 15:24.43 | Shirik | #define > const int |
| 15:24.48 | Shirik | const int takes space :P |
| 15:24.59 | zenzelezz | yes, but Macros Are Bad |
| 15:25.06 | Shirik | I hate that stance |
| 15:25.30 | Shirik | there are some places where macros are very useful, and a better choice than C++'s alternatives |
| 15:25.43 | Shirik | yet for some reason it seems every C++ programmer is taught that #define is the spawn of satan |
| 15:26.17 | zenzelezz | I'm not actually opposed to macros in general, but I try to stay away from them when they're not clearly better |
| 15:27.40 | zenzelezz | my favorite macros have to be windowsx.h |
| 15:28.27 | ts|skrom | I like kraft macros w/ cheese |
| 15:28.28 | Shirik | I love the release version of ASSERT |
| 15:28.30 | Shirik | hehe |
| 15:28.43 | Shirik | I think it's something like (void) |
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| 15:29.01 | zenzelezz | I find the definition (MS's at least) of NULL interesting |
| 15:29.06 | Shirik | not quite sure why. "#define ASSERT ;" would be just fine |
| 15:29.07 | zenzelezz | (void)(0) |
| 15:29.08 | Shirik | isn't it 0? |
| 15:29.09 | Shirik | oh |
| 15:29.09 | Lopeppeppy | I'm going to TS|Skrom's house for lunch. |
| 15:29.22 | Shirik | I guess it's so it could be converted to any type of pointer without complaint |
| 15:30.40 | ts|skrom | k |
| 15:30.44 | alestane | How can you type something to void? |
| 15:30.50 | ts|skrom | we can play bioshock together and you can hold my hand when it gets scary ! |
| 15:31.06 | alestane | I thought void could only be a pointer destination. |
| 15:31.17 | alestane | (void*) I get. |
| 15:32.00 | Lopeppeppy | TS|Skrom, I'm such a little wimp about scary movies. I'd have my hands over my eyes the whole time. :) |
| 15:32.32 | ts|skrom | okay but you've gotta cover my ears when the little sisters start talking |
| 15:32.37 | ts|skrom | they are creepy O.o |
| 15:32.47 | Shirik | alestane: The rules for void are rather complicated |
| 15:32.57 | Shirik | void cannot be a variable, and you cannot cast something to void as a final destination |
| 15:33.05 | Shirik | but casting through void is perfectly acceptable, which is what's being done here |
| 15:33.19 | Shirik | and even that's not correct |
| 15:33.43 | Shirik | the reason they didn't do void* is because this isn't legal: |
| 15:33.47 | Shirik | int foo = void*(0) |
| 15:33.56 | alestane | It's used as a way to express addresses without implying type of content I thought. |
| 15:34.02 | Shirik | void* is, yes |
| 15:34.17 | Shirik | problem with void* is it indicates that it is an address |
| 15:34.29 | alestane | Well what good is void by itself then? |
| 15:34.34 | Shirik | not much of anything |
| 15:34.40 | Shirik | which is why you can't declare a variable of type void |
| 15:34.47 | zenzelezz | you can be very explicit about saying a function has no aruments |
| 15:34.57 | zenzelezz | void arf(void) |
| 15:35.05 | zenzelezz | no return value, no arguments |
| 15:35.19 | zenzelezz | wait, you're coders |
| 15:35.21 | zenzelezz | no parameters |
| 15:35.30 | Shirik | I hate that syntax too, btw |
| 15:35.41 | zenzelezz | I just use () |
| 15:35.41 | Shirik | if it has no parameters it should have nothing in between the parentheses -_- |
| 15:35.43 | Shirik | me too |
| 15:35.45 | alestane | I always thought the the only reason void existed was so that we could point to it...maybe it was expanded in C++ to add the declaration purpose. |
| 15:35.47 | Shirik | ~lart C |
| 15:35.47 | purl | DoSes C |
| 15:35.47 | zenzelezz | but you need it for the return value |
| 15:35.56 | zenzelezz | C has the ultimate ugly |
| 15:36.01 | alestane | That's right, it was always used as a function return. |
| 15:36.05 | zenzelezz | void arf(a, b) int a, char b {} |
| 15:36.16 | Shirik | Just remember, #define does not set anything to anything |
| 15:36.18 | Shirik | it just indicates a replacement |
| 15:36.24 | alestane | Been a long time since I wrote C directly. |
| 15:36.25 | Shirik | const int NULL = (void)0 |
| 15:36.26 | Shirik | would NOT work |
| 15:36.41 | Shirik | however #define NULL = (void)0 works fine only because this: |
| 15:36.46 | Shirik | int foo = NULL; |
| 15:36.47 | Shirik | becomes this: |
| 15:36.55 | Shirik | wait |
| 15:37.00 | Shirik | 14(1111:3511:4314) 14(11Shirik14) const int NULL = (void)0 |
| 15:37.01 | Shirik | woild work |
| 15:37.05 | Shirik | const void NULL = (void)0 |
| 15:37.06 | Shirik | wouldn't |
| 15:37.19 | Shirik | int foo = NULL becomes int foo = (void)0 |
| 15:37.30 | Shirik | which is equivalent to int foo = (int)(void)0 |
| 15:37.46 | Shirik | so you're only casting THROUGH void, not TO void |
| 15:38.03 | alestane | So (void)val allows you to retype val without regard for the destination type? |
| 15:38.07 | Shirik | it's strange, I know |
| 15:38.21 | Shirik | kinda |
| 15:38.28 | Shirik | val has some restrictions |
| 15:38.32 | Shirik | but yes |
| 15:39.00 | Shirik | use void* if you want to store something without regard to type. However, be aware this is NOT the way C++ was designed |
| 15:39.09 | Shirik | and in most cases is poor practice |
| 15:40.05 | Shirik | ooh pavaratti died :( |
| 15:40.47 | Lopeppeppy | I saw, Shirik. I've been mourning with my classical opera all morning. :( |
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| 15:42.43 | alestane | Pancreatic cancer is tough...it killed a family friend of mine. |
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| 15:49.11 | Cidan | mudkipz? |
| 15:51.21 | Lopeppeppy | No, I think we settled on cheeze and whine. |
| 15:51.35 | Cidan | Oh. |
| 15:51.40 | Cidan | :( |
| 15:51.46 | Cidan | LOOOOOPEPEPEPEPEPPPPYPYPYPYPPYPY |
| 15:51.49 | Cidan | Okay, I'm done. |
| 15:51.53 | Shirik | ~lart Cidan |
| 15:51.53 | purl | moos at Cidan |
| 15:51.57 | Cidan | :( |
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| 15:52.35 | Lopeppeppy | Heya, Cidan. Nice to see ya, even if purl moos at ya like that. |
| 15:53.05 | Cidan | Yay, you hardly know me and it's nice to see me. |
| 15:53.07 | Cidan | Yaaaay. |
| 15:53.10 | Cidan | :D |
| 15:53.56 | Cidan | >>> You have been kicked off #conspiracy by Shirik (For what you did in #wowi-lounge, since I can't do it there) |
| 15:53.56 | Cide | Cidan: [string "You have been kicked off #conspiracy by Shirik (For what you di..."]:1: '=' expected near 'have' |
| 15:53.58 | Cidan | er |
| 15:53.59 | Cidan | lol |
| 15:54.14 | Shirik | 14(1111:5211:4314) 11-› Cidan was 4kicked by Shirik 11(For what you did in #wowi-lounge, since I can't do it there11) |
| 15:54.15 | Shirik | woot |
| 15:54.16 | Lopeppeppy | Companionship doesn't rely on intimate knowledge, Cidan. I'm happy to see the sunshine too. |
| 15:54.33 | Cidan | :D |
| 15:54.38 | Cidan | I suddenly like you a whole lot more. |
| 15:55.33 | zenzelezz | hands off, she's mine |
| 15:56.01 | Cidan | I didn't realize that women were property to own. |
| 15:56.09 | Lopeppeppy | I belong to my cat, and that's about it. |
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| 15:56.36 | Wraanger | heyaz |
| 15:56.40 | Cidan | yo. |
| 15:56.40 | Cidan | :D |
| 15:56.51 | Wraanger | ;) |
| 15:57.12 | Lopeppeppy | Morning. |
| 15:58.03 | Cidan | Slow news day. |
| 15:58.18 | Cidan | Hmm, I wonder if I can fit WoW on a flash drive... |
| 15:58.47 | zenzelezz | depends on the flash drive |
| 15:58.51 | mikma | try deleting the cinematics, then it might fit easier |
| 15:59.01 | Cidan | Good idea |
| 15:59.10 | Shirik | s/easier/more easily/ |
| 15:59.12 | Lopeppeppy | I do know people who play off a flash drive. Read/write permissions can sometimes be problematic. |
| 15:59.25 | Shirik | fit is a verb :P |
| 15:59.42 | Shirik | (in this case) |
| 16:00.13 | JoshBorke | bye bye flash drive |
| 16:00.22 | JoshBorke | and yes you can, seeing as how flash drives go up to 16GB now |
| 16:00.24 | Cidan | 8 gig drive for only 100 bucks |
| 16:00.35 | Cidan | 8 gigs... should be enough? |
| 16:00.56 | Lopeppeppy | If you don't keep the patch info on it, should be. |
| 16:01.13 | mikma | Cidan: my wow with svn-stuff is: 7932880 |
| 16:01.17 | zenzelezz | SequoiaView reveals the MPQ files are by far the biggest part of the WoW folder |
| 16:01.49 | Shirik | =( I just lost me stream connection |
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| 16:02.12 | Cidan | That sounds... dirty. |
| 16:02.15 | Shirik | I guess listening to it 48 hours straight didn't make them too happy |
| 16:02.16 | Cidan | Almost... kinky? |
| 16:02.26 | Cidan | OH, right, music |
| 16:03.06 | Shirik | haha they just said their problem |
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| 16:03.21 | Shirik | Too many people are logging onto the stream since they're playing pavarotti consistently |
| 16:03.26 | Shirik | and the servers can't handle it |
| 16:03.26 | Cidan | oh yeah |
| 16:03.27 | Cidan | :( |
| 16:03.34 | Cidan | I cried a little while driving |
| 16:03.39 | Cidan | when I heard on NPR that he passed |
| 16:04.59 | Cairenn|afk | :( |
| 16:05.12 | Cidan | it really upset me, sigh |
| 16:05.47 | Lopeppeppy | It's a loss to classical music and opera.... there's too few good classical or operatic singers left. It's a dying profession. |
| 16:06.00 | JoshBorke | woops, i double dipped from my checking account |
| 16:06.30 | Lopeppeppy | That's not a good thing. |
| 16:06.42 | JoshBorke | meh |
| 16:07.11 | Lopeppeppy | Well, I'm in the "budget" sort of lifestyle, so I do watch what I draw from where and when. |
| 16:07.45 | Cidan | Even if you weren't, it's never really a good thing, :D |
| 16:08.03 | JoshBorke | i just moved some money from checking to savings |
| 16:08.22 | cladhaire | anyone here familiar with bash programming? |
| 16:08.30 | JoshBorke | ooo, ooo, i've done it! |
| 16:08.34 | alestane | cladhaire: Very slightly |
| 16:08.35 | JoshBorke | lay it on me sex |
| 16:08.36 | Cidan | cladhaire, as have I |
| 16:08.39 | cladhaire | I have an argument, and I want to strip it of all text prior to the first period.. i.e. turn Poo.zip into .zip |
| 16:08.45 | JoshBorke | use sed |
| 16:08.45 | cladhaire | any ideas? |
| 16:08.47 | Cidan | sed |
| 16:08.51 | alestane | Nope, you're over my head already. |
| 16:09.05 | JoshBorke | or perl |
| 16:09.11 | JoshBorke | but sed is faster |
| 16:09.29 | cladhaire | how do you use sed on an argument instead of stdin? |
| 16:09.36 | JoshBorke | sed s/'^[^.]*\.(.*)/\1 |
| 16:09.45 | JoshBorke | i usually echo the variable |
| 16:09.49 | alestane | Gotta crunch for a little while folks, closing down distractions...sorry. |
| 16:10.28 | JoshBorke | var=`echo $var | sed s/'^[^.]*\.(.*)$'/\1/` |
| 16:11.58 | cladhaire | hrm |
| 16:12.29 | cladhaire | hehe that regexp doesn't strip poo.zip properly |
| 16:12.41 | JoshBorke | oh bother, i don't do regexp so well |
| 16:12.44 | JoshBorke | i might have one |
| 16:12.45 | Cidan | perl is also an option if you feel like using it |
| 16:16.45 | JoshBorke | oh, i got it |
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| 16:17.09 | JoshBorke | var=`echo $var | sed 's/[^.]*\.\(.*\)/\1/'` |
| 16:17.26 | JoshBorke | var=`echo $var | sed 's/^[^.]*\.\(.*\)$/\1/'` |
| 16:17.37 | JoshBorke | doesn't work on multiline |
| 16:20.20 | JoshBorke | anything else before I go claddy waddy? |
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| 16:20.27 | cladhaire | no thanks :P |
| 16:20.34 | cladhaire | ended up using FILEROOT=`echo $1 | sed "s/^[^\.]*//"` |
| 16:20.45 | JoshBorke | that makes me a sad panda |
| 16:20.48 | cladhaire | lol |
| 16:20.50 | cladhaire | why? |
| 16:20.57 | JoshBorke | you throw out so much! |
| 16:21.06 | cladhaire | lol |
| 16:21.08 | JoshBorke | but whatever, if it works for you it works for you |
| 16:21.13 | JoshBorke | i'm going to go bash my head into a wall, bye all |
| 16:21.14 | cladhaire | what do you mean |
| 16:21.25 | JoshBorke | i dunno, i'm not very good with sed :-D |
| 16:21.56 | JoshBorke | that does actually work fairly well, doesn't it... |
| 16:21.58 | JoshBorke | anyway, bye |
| 16:22.34 | Cidan | welp, be back later. |
| 16:22.36 | cladhaire | yay now i have a function that will upload any file to my files website |
| 16:22.46 | cladhaire | so anyone want to scrutinize a basic crappy addon |
| 16:22.57 | cladhaire | and provide suggestions about how I can make the code more readable, since i need to teach it to the readers? |
| 16:23.09 | Intangir | what is it? |
| 16:24.00 | cladhaire | just a simple addon that tracks how long you've been in combat, and how much damage you've taken |
| 16:24.04 | cladhaire | shows it in a draggable window |
| 16:24.09 | cladhaire | that you can right-click to report to your party |
| 16:24.30 | cladhaire | http://files.gammatester.com/7e45122d5ab15d6a7b1bcb052e1a78cd.zip |
| 16:28.36 | zenzelezz | nice filename |
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| 16:29.39 | Shirik | it looks like an md5 hash |
| 16:30.28 | cladhaire | it is |
| 16:30.57 | krka | whoa |
| 16:31.00 | krka | that's impressive |
| 16:31.09 | krka | how do you tell it apart from other 160 bit hashes? |
| 16:31.16 | cladhaire | lol |
| 16:31.55 | krka | no wait, md5 is 128? |
| 16:32.14 | cladhaire | think so |
| 16:32.20 | cladhaire | either way, mightily impressive |
| 16:32.23 | krka | yeah |
| 16:32.35 | Intangir | try telling someone that URL over the phone |
| 16:32.52 | Intangir | 404 |
| 16:32.57 | Lopeppeppy | "Wait, let me just text you..." |
| 16:33.09 | krka | it could also have been haval, md2, md4, ripemd or tiger-128 |
| 16:33.22 | krka | when i said 160, i was thinking of sha-1 :/ |
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| 16:33.39 | Shirik | krka: I'm just awesome :P |
| 16:33.48 | krka | so it appears |
| 16:33.53 | art3mis | hey clad |
| 16:33.57 | cladhaire | heyas |
| 16:34.03 | art3mis | is themeing blizz frames a bad thing? |
| 16:34.17 | art3mis | themeing/skinning |
| 16:34.23 | cladhaire | not in the least |
| 16:34.31 | cladhaire | see tking's skins on wowinterface.com |
| 16:34.46 | art3mis | nods i was curious mainly because of the model "hacks" |
| 16:35.13 | cladhaire | user interface gives no advantage in any way |
| 16:35.16 | Intangir | dude i want to change my weapons to be those ones that furi has |
| 16:35.23 | art3mis | http://www.gothi.ca/Stuff/test.png |
| 16:35.24 | Intangir | is that allowed? |
| 16:35.35 | art3mis | Intangir: sure it would only be client side though |
| 16:35.44 | Intangir | thats fine |
| 16:35.46 | Intangir | is that allowed? |
| 16:36.13 | Punkie` | skinner does it |
| 16:36.13 | Lopeppeppy | No... model changing is not allowed. |
| 16:36.16 | Punkie` | why not |
| 16:36.16 | Shirik | no |
| 16:36.17 | Intangir | http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Illidan&n=Furi |
| 16:36.23 | Punkie` | oh model changing is not no |
| 16:36.26 | Punkie` | i thought that screenshot :) |
| 16:36.29 | art3mis | however changing the gates in bg's is bad ;P |
| 16:36.31 | Shirik | I can't click the screenshot |
| 16:36.43 | art3mis | Punkie`: no skinner does NOT do that |
| 16:36.51 | Punkie` | what did you do? |
| 16:36.52 | Shirik | I don't see a reason that would be disallowed |
| 16:36.56 | Intangir | look at those swords! |
| 16:37.01 | cladhaire | Model changing is different from user interface changing |
| 16:37.02 | cladhaire | ffs |
| 16:37.06 | Punkie` | looks just like you put a skin on top of the blizzard frame |
| 16:37.07 | art3mis | skinner only filelrs in gradient and solid colours and no textures |
| 16:37.20 | art3mis | fills |
| 16:37.31 | Punkie` | did you change the actual files themselves? |
| 16:37.34 | art3mis | yup |
| 16:37.37 | Punkie` | ah right |
| 16:37.41 | Punkie` | got the wrong end of the stick :) |
| 16:37.43 | cladhaire | user interface skinning is allowed |
| 16:38.15 | Punkie` | sucks to just sit down at your computer and read half a conversation :D |
| 16:38.34 | Lopeppeppy | Always has, Punkie`. |
| 16:39.02 | cladhaire | sucks worse when you jump in and tell someone "no" when that's not the answer |
| 16:39.03 | Shirik | you can override the files if you want |
| 16:39.10 | Intangir | where do you find skins on wowinterface? |
| 16:39.11 | Shirik | just not replace |
| 16:39.27 | cladhaire | be specific there |
| 16:39.32 | cladhaire | "files" is vague |
| 16:39.40 | cladhaire | you cannot replace 3 dimensional models |
| 16:39.43 | Shirik | well it won't let you :P |
| 16:39.45 | cladhaire | you can replace the user interface textures. |
| 16:39.54 | Shirik | and I said "override" not "replace" |
| 16:39.58 | Shirik | in fact I specifically said "not replace" |
| 16:40.16 | cladhaire | http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info4408-T.KingsWinterwoodforWorldofWarcraft.html for example |
| 16:40.49 | Punkie` | oh sorry cladhaire, I wasn't reading what Intangir had said, just the conversation between you and art3mis :) |
| 16:41.02 | cladhaire | it adds textures to Data/Interface and friends |
| 16:41.05 | cladhaire | not the best way to do it |
| 16:41.07 | cladhaire | but one way |
| 16:42.27 | art3mis | its an awesome way to do it ;P |
| 16:42.35 | art3mis | just a toch time consuming ;P |
| 16:42.38 | art3mis | touch |
| 16:43.11 | Punkie` | art3mis: If you think about reskinning or such, or even just doing an overlay it would be a pain |
| 16:43.28 | cladhaire | not really |
| 16:43.31 | Punkie` | mainly because you would be asked to do that on request for everyone who uses your addon for other addons you have |
| 16:43.39 | Punkie` | look at skinner :P |
| 16:43.42 | cladhaire | tell them to eff off. |
| 16:43.42 | art3mis | no i wouldnt |
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| 16:44.00 | Punkie` | I did not say you have to :P |
| 16:44.02 | cladhaire | telling users no is a virtue. |
| 16:44.05 | art3mis | i include the files.. they put them where they go, they work, they dont likethem, they remove em |
| 16:44.05 | Punkie` | I just said you would have been asked |
| 16:44.10 | Intangir | how do you do model switching |
| 16:44.20 | art3mis | and stop saying skinner |
| 16:44.22 | Lopeppeppy | Intangir: You don't. |
| 16:44.24 | art3mis | skinner is complete shite |
| 16:44.26 | Intangir | Lopeppeppy: i want to ;) |
| 16:44.29 | art3mis | and not a skinner at all |
| 16:44.30 | Punkie` | I know :) |
| 16:44.41 | Lopeppeppy | Well, we're not going to tell you how to violate the ToS/EULA here. |
| 16:44.52 | art3mis | all it does is override the reg boxes with the chat frame background graphic and lets you solid or gradient fill said box |
| 16:45.00 | Intangir | Lopeppeppy: how do i know its a violation if i dont know how its done |
| 16:45.16 | Punkie` | because Lopeppeppy just told you Intangir |
| 16:45.29 | Intangir | well that doesnt satisfy my curiousity |
| 16:45.32 | Intangir | take our word for it? pass.. |
| 16:45.35 | Intangir | thats not the programmer way |
| 16:45.47 | art3mis | although im confused as to why the hk cycircled thingy isnt working correctly for some |
| 16:46.06 | Lopeppeppy | Go read the FAQ on the UI/Macro forum. About a dozen of the programmers here have contributed to it. Believe us, or believe the links to Blizzard posters. I don't care. It's still the answer. |
| 16:46.08 | Punkie` | art3mis: Someone said pathing, or was that another problem? |
| 16:46.19 | art3mis | corerected the graphics paths |
| 16:46.24 | Intangir | Lopeppeppy: you know how to do it? |
| 16:46.28 | art3mis | checking other stuff now |
| 16:46.48 | Shirik | you don't have to replace the files |
| 16:46.54 | Shirik | you can override them by putting them in teh right path |
| 16:46.59 | Lopeppeppy | Intangir: That's not the point. No one here is going to tell you how, even if we know it. Sometimes most of us pretend to respect the rules of the game we play. |
| 16:46.59 | Shirik | which is perfectly fine |
| 16:47.09 | Shirik | oh |
| 16:47.16 | Intangir | thats retarded ;) |
| 16:47.17 | Shirik | ok I'm not responding anymore without reading at least an hour back |
| 16:47.24 | Intangir | so you know how, but you dont do it. so i cant know how? |
| 16:47.29 | Lopeppeppy | Could be, Intangir. |
| 16:47.31 | Intangir | anyway ill just find out from somewhere else |
| 16:47.36 | Lopeppeppy | Could also be. |
| 16:47.37 | Intangir | and if anyone else in here asks, ill tell them |
| 16:47.38 | Shirik | Intangir: You'll get banned |
| 16:47.38 | Intangir | im not an info nazi |
| 16:47.42 | Intangir | i dont have to use it |
| 16:47.51 | Intangir | just want to know how |
| 16:47.55 | Lopeppeppy | I'm not an info socialist, I don't have to share it. |
| 16:47.55 | Punkie` | Are you trying to be some sort of rebel without a cause? |
| 16:47.56 | Shirik | why do you want to know then? |
| 16:48.12 | Intangir | cause i want to know how it works |
| 16:48.15 | Intangir | why do you program? |
| 16:48.19 | Punkie` | It's in the first paragraph of the EULA iirc, therefore it won't be discussed here |
| 16:48.29 | Intangir | just respect your boundaries, if you were meant to do something it wouldve been done for you |
| 16:48.32 | Intangir | laaame. |
| 16:48.35 | Shirik | Intangir: Because I enjoy accomplishing something |
| 16:48.39 | Shirik | You aren't accomplishing a damn thing |
| 16:48.53 | Intangir | im exploring |
| 16:48.58 | Intangir | a possibility, and learning how something works |
| 16:49.04 | Punkie` | replace the r with it :) |
| 16:49.05 | Intangir | thats enough of a reason |
| 16:49.12 | Shirik | Punkie`: That's what I saw at first |
| 16:49.16 | Punkie` | me too :) |
| 16:50.05 | cladhaire | the moral of the story, is if a topic is against the TOS or the EULA then we won't be discussing it in any way here, except to tell you that its in violation of those agreement. |
| 16:50.16 | cladhaire | The ops will enforce this, period. |
| 16:51.15 | art3mis | here's the general gist of how it works... the mpqs store data such as graphics. they have a file and directory structure that mimics the wow folder. if you extract and modify said files within the mpq and put them in thier physical folders relative to the wow folder it will read those instead of the stored ones(like the blizz addons ion the addon directory) <- model changing is bad bad bad bad bad bad, because it alters how the cilen |
| 16:51.28 | art3mis | it's not recommended to do and you CAN be banned for it |
| 16:51.48 | art3mis | there now you know so shush ;) |
| 16:52.30 | Punkie` | ... |
| 16:52.34 | Shirik | ..... |
| 16:52.35 | cog|work | actually that doesn't work anymore |
| 16:52.40 | Lopeppeppy | Thank the stars. |
| 16:52.47 | art3mis | the one thing to note is that mpqs do a crc on certain aspects as well and if they find a bad crc even through the modded values you've done it will core wow |
| 16:52.55 | art3mis | cog|work: it does on "some" thigs |
| 16:52.57 | art3mis | things |
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| 16:53.04 | art3mis | only certain portions of it are crc checked |
| 16:53.09 | cog|work | yes, like sounds and textures, but not models |
| 16:53.37 | Shirik | art3mis: I strongly advise you to be quiet |
| 16:53.43 | art3mis | you used to be able to change one of the glue files so that you could change an the url it reads when you first load it ;) |
| 16:53.46 | cladhaire | this conversation ends now. |
| 16:53.46 | cladhaire | period. |
| 16:53.53 | cladhaire | I will kick those who choose not to comply |
| 16:53.56 | cladhaire | resistance is futile. |
| 16:54.37 | art3mis | but like i said you can and in most cases WILL be banned for it |
| 16:54.37 | cog|work | doesn't matter |
| 16:54.37 | Tuller | ah, now i know what you're talking about |
| 16:54.43 | cog|work | you can and will get banned for using exploit "mods" |
| 16:54.48 | cog|work | doesn't mean it's ok to link to them |
| 16:55.08 | art3mis | i didnt link em ;) i was explaining the idea behind it |
| 16:55.18 | art3mis | but no matter, he understands now. so it's done |
| 16:55.25 | cog|work | which is a bad thing imo |
| 16:55.50 | cog|work | you just gave him more information to help his search |
| 16:55.57 | Lopeppeppy | Teach a man to fish with dynamite. :( |
| 16:56.10 | cog|work | this channel follows similar rules as the wow forums in regards to discussing hacks |
| 16:56.14 | cog|work | so don't do it |
| 16:56.14 | art3mis | hehe like "wow model change" wouldnt tell him exactly that in less than 1 hit ;P |
| 16:56.38 | cladhaire | it doesn't matter |
| 16:56.40 | cladhaire | we dont' talk about it her |
| 16:56.41 | cladhaire | here |
| 16:56.42 | cladhaire | PERIOD |
| 16:56.47 | art3mis | i just made sure it had a disclaimer, unlike the hits he'd get |
| 16:56.56 | cladhaire | art3mis: dont' do it again, period. |
| 16:57.02 | cladhaire | understood?> |
| 16:57.02 | art3mis | yes dear |
| 16:57.15 | cladhaire | this channel is in the good graces of blizzard, and at times slouken even visits to chat with us |
| 16:57.24 | art3mis | i personally dont understand why it's a big deal though |
| 16:57.29 | cladhaire | you don't need to |
| 16:57.38 | Shirik | because it's illegal |
| 16:57.41 | art3mis | no |
| 16:57.44 | cog|work | yes |
| 16:57.46 | art3mis | it's agaisnt the tos/eula |
| 16:57.46 | Shirik | and in some states, even giving that information that you did right there is illegal |
| 16:57.49 | art3mis | not illegal ;P |
| 16:57.50 | cladhaire | We will not be extended the same level of contact and courtesy if we allow conversations like this to happen in this channel. |
| 16:57.51 | Shirik | which is a binding contract |
| 16:57.57 | cog|work | ARGH |
| 16:58.12 | cog|work | "illegal" does not simply mean "violates statutes" |
| 16:58.28 | cog|work | If you break the ToS/EULA blizzard has LEGAL means to get you to stop |
| 16:58.34 | art3mis | cog|work: i know that ;P but in shiriks wording he seems to imply "law" ;) |
| 16:58.42 | Shirik | In this case, it /is/ law |
| 16:58.45 | cog|work | "The law" (as in "breaking the law") is more than just statutes |
| 16:58.57 | Shirik | you are referring to modifying copyrighted code |
| 16:59.01 | Shirik | s/code/stuff/ |
| 16:59.12 | cog|work | contracts are just as much "law" as minimum wage |
| 16:59.17 | Lopeppeppy | Enough semantics.... it's not to be done here. This is not something for debate for a why or a wherefore. Cladhaire just sorta gets to say so. I know it's a comfortable well-chewed argument, but you'd think we could skip over some of it when it shows up next time... |
| 16:59.21 | art3mis | and you do that as well with your interface changes ;P |
| 16:59.26 | art3mis | anyways..... |
| 16:59.39 | art3mis | cog|work: http://www.gothi.ca/Stuff/test.png |
| 16:59.41 | Shirik | I'm dropping it, this is an exercise in futility |
| 16:59.44 | cog|work | art3mis: you're not making any friends |
| 16:59.52 | art3mis | cog|work: never set out to? |
| 17:00.09 | art3mis | my opinions vary greatly from most people |
| 17:00.14 | cog|work | was a polite way of saying "you're pissing people off" |
| 17:00.40 | cog|work | including someone with +o :P |
| 17:01.08 | art3mis | laugh it's irc ;P |
| 17:01.24 | cladhaire | it may just be irc for you, but its my full time job |
| 17:01.27 | art3mis | but this all stemmed from a convo about themeing the interface ;P |
| 17:01.46 | cog|work | where it came from is irrelevant |
| 17:01.53 | cog|work | trains of thought can lead anywhere |
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| 17:01.58 | cladhaire | wb Cairenn |
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| 17:02.24 | art3mis | not really, because if i modify those directly under shiriks reasonsing it's against the law yet somehow it's allowable ;P |
| 17:02.25 | Cairenn | thanks |
| 17:02.32 | Shirik | omfg |
| 17:02.34 | art3mis | now tell me what you think of that post above |
| 17:02.34 | Shirik | art3mis |
| 17:02.36 | Shirik | I hatey ou now |
| 17:02.40 | Shirik | I would have won that fight |
| 17:02.45 | Shirik | instead I lost at 1% |
| 17:02.47 | art3mis | shirik: youll get over it in a few minutes ;P |
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| 17:02.51 | cladhaire | stop.. RIGHT now. |
| 17:03.02 | cladhaire | i dont want to hear another word on the topic |
| 17:03.13 | art3mis | i can still talk about themeing though right? |
| 17:03.14 | cladhaire | if you want to discuss skinning the user interface, and that alone, please feel free. |
| 17:03.24 | cladhaire | step beyond that, and enjoy a vacation from the channel. |
| 17:03.26 | cladhaire | take it to PMs |
| 17:03.37 | art3mis | now gimme comments dammit! |
| 17:03.51 | art3mis | while the above look good as a sample for the entire ui? |
| 17:03.59 | art3mis | while==will |
| 17:04.23 | cladhaire | I think its hideous, but that's a matter of personal opinion. |
| 17:04.25 | cog|work | "good" in the sense that it's appropriate to what you're trying to accomplish, yes :P |
| 17:04.25 | cladhaire | :P |
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| 17:04.30 | cladhaire | indeed cog|work |
| 17:05.19 | art3mis | heh |
| 17:05.27 | art3mis | thats what i meant ;P |
| 17:05.35 | art3mis | actually its kind of fun in a wierd way |
| 17:06.01 | art3mis | man i need to find a virtual vertias program |
| 17:06.12 | art3mis | i just dont know enough about that in real world |
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| 17:09.11 | art3mis | oh that reminds me cairenn and clad |
| 17:09.16 | Cairenn | hmm? |
| 17:09.23 | art3mis | is there some reason that the upload stuff doesnt work in opera? |
| 17:09.48 | art3mis | you can browse for the file but it doesnt select it into the box for upload |
| 17:09.51 | Cairenn | post about it in the site bug forum, dolby-wowi will be the one to help you out with that |
| 17:10.12 | art3mis | i just swap to Ff, was urious if you knew off the top of yer head ;P |
| 17:10.18 | art3mis | curious even |
| 17:10.38 | cladhaire | nah, there's no reason it should have an issue. |
| 17:11.17 | art3mis | shoudl i mention it? or has it already been talked aboot? |
| 17:12.10 | Punkie` | It works for me |
| 17:12.14 | Punkie` | and I use Opera |
| 17:12.36 | art3mis | oh okay so its a bug in my settings then |
| 17:12.44 | Punkie` | do you have a different theme in opera? |
| 17:12.47 | Punkie` | maybe change it |
| 17:12.48 | art3mis | nupe |
| 17:13.00 | Punkie` | mine is the windows one, i dont think its opera default |
| 17:17.37 | ScytheBlade1 | Probably already old news, but 2.2 will be soon |
| 17:18.03 | Lopeppeppy | 2.2 has been "soon" for the last two weeks... I half have my fingers crossed for next week. |
| 17:18.14 | zenzelezz | may be old news, but by now it may be accurate news |
| 17:18.25 | ScytheBlade1 | "As we are approaching the final stages of 2.2 testing there shouldn't be as many patches coming in." |
| 17:19.37 | cog|work | but final stages on a nearly 2 month process could mean anything... |
| 17:19.52 | cog|work | I'm guessing sometime this month |
| 17:19.54 | ScytheBlade1 | The "nightly maint" thread is locked + no longer stickied |
| 17:20.07 | ScytheBlade1 | Yeah, I'd guess within two weeks from now |
| 17:21.21 | zenzelezz | I'll believe it's soon when the next part of the patch is available on background downloader |
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| 17:23.14 | Cairenn | not next week |
| 17:23.44 | zenzelezz | but it's a whole other week! |
| 17:23.47 | ScytheBlade1 | Yeah, I think we can all agree on that much, heh |
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| 17:24.09 | Lopeppeppy | Soon enough, I will have better pally buffs. |
| 17:24.38 | zenzelezz | thought they were the same, only lasted longer and affected pets? |
| 17:24.44 | ScytheBlade1 | Exactly |
| 17:24.52 | ScytheBlade1 | Lasting longer = 3857 times better |
| 17:25.00 | ScytheBlade1 | The pets is just a bonus! |
| 17:25.04 | zenzelezz | hush, I'm just finding something to say to the redhead |
| 17:25.12 | ScytheBlade1 | lol |
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| 17:26.29 | zenzelezz | sadly it didn't seem to work well |
| 17:26.34 | Polarina | >>> --local s = "a,"; for i=1,18 do s = s..s end print(loadstring("local a;"..s.."a=nil", "")) |
| 17:26.35 | Cide | Polarina: nil |
| 17:26.36 | ScytheBlade1 | Our raids have, on average, 5-6 people who are 'offspec' |
| 17:26.46 | ScytheBlade1 | Really wreaks havoc on the pallies |
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| 17:29.11 | Lopeppeppy | That it does, ScytheBlade1. *le sigh* |
| 17:29.17 | ScytheBlade1 | Lopeppeppy, ? |
| 17:29.28 | Lopeppeppy | And I'm at work, zenzelezz, you have to expect me to tab in and out. |
| 17:29.52 | ScytheBlade1 | What did I do? |
| 17:30.00 | Lopeppeppy | ScytheBlade1: I manage the pallies for my group. Buffing this druid with these things, that druid with the other things, shadow priest with something different.... makes me go *le sigh* every time. |
| 17:30.09 | ScytheBlade1 | Ahh |
| 17:30.17 | ScytheBlade1 | Yeah, we have an average of... TWO paladins. |
| 17:30.26 | ScytheBlade1 | For 25 people, with at least 6 of them offspec |
| 17:30.32 | ScytheBlade1 | I cry for you, and for them. |
| 17:31.07 | ScytheBlade1 | If druids get salv, the two ferals can't tank. If druids don't get salv, the healers pull aggro on Tidewalker. |
| 17:31.18 | ScytheBlade1 | And your only solution is, a 5m buff. Which isn't really a solution. |
| 17:31.51 | Lopeppeppy | I've worked out some tough-love strategies with the class leads. For example, buffs are done for druids based on caster needs. Druid fighters can click them off or live with them -- 5 minutes are not given unless you're standing right next to me. I don't chase 'em. |
| 17:32.11 | Elkano | 2.2 will make them 10min ;) |
| 17:32.22 | ScytheBlade1 | Thought it was 30/15 |
| 17:32.29 | zenzelezz | <Lopeppeppy> And I'm at work, zenzelezz, you have to expect me to tab in and out. <-- lies, you just don't love me anymore |
| 17:32.53 | ScytheBlade1 | Never mind, 30/10 |
| 17:33.05 | ScytheBlade1 | Regardless, up from 15/5 is huge |
| 17:33.07 | Lopeppeppy | Even with a 10, they come to ME for it, or don't get it. |
| 17:34.01 | ScytheBlade1 | Is there an addon which all the pallies can install, and have one person give assignments that the others will see? |
| 17:34.23 | Lopeppeppy | Yup. PallyPower, files.wowace.com |
| 17:34.33 | Lopeppeppy | I... freakin... love it. |
| 17:34.55 | ScytheBlade1 | I cry for those poor pallies.. like really, it's just painful |
| 17:35.57 | Polarina | 784 downloads for 12 days. Is that good or o.O? |
| 17:36.09 | alestane | Polarina: of? |
| 17:36.23 | Polarina | alastane: My addon. |
| 17:36.30 | Lopeppeppy | It doesn't handle anything about 5 minute crud, but it's great for assigning out the major buffs with little hassle. Shows what buffs/talents into them each pally has, which helps lots. |
| 17:36.44 | ScytheBlade1 | That alone would be awesome, I'm sure |
| 17:37.15 | alestane | Polarina: That's faster than I got on Demonomicon, but that's a one-class-only addon. It sounds decent. |
| 17:37.30 | Polarina | ScytheBlade1: And that awesome, for someones first addon? |
| 17:37.49 | ScytheBlade1 | Polarina, heh, sorry, that wasn't directed at you, sorry. |
| 17:37.54 | Polarina | Ok. |
| 17:38.13 | ScytheBlade1 | I'm pretty sure my "addons" on WoWI have maybe 2000 combine downloads |
| 17:38.17 | ScytheBlade1 | That's over 6 (iirc) addons |
| 17:38.28 | Polarina | Oh.. I was talking to alestane, not you ScytheBlade1. Sorry. |
| 17:38.37 | ScytheBlade1 | Oh, hehe |
| 17:39.16 | ScytheBlade1 | Holy crap, 4343 total downloads |
| 17:39.30 | Polarina | Anyone wants to help me increase the download count? *flirt* |
| 17:39.35 | ScytheBlade1 | lol |
| 17:39.36 | |Jelly| | I r too dum fer pallypower to werk! |
| 17:39.55 | Lopeppeppy | Oh noes, |Jelly| ! |
| 17:39.56 | alestane | It's a type of addon that a lot of people want, so that'll help. Quality will determine whether its download count keep srising or not. |
| 17:40.11 | ScytheBlade1 | Cairenn, what would it take to get my WoWI username changed, by chance? |
| 17:40.43 | |Jelly| | Indeed Peppy. I could never get it to work and gave up shortly after cause I r to dum! |
| 17:41.02 | Polarina | alestane: About 65 downloads per day.. |
| 17:41.09 | |Jelly| | But I also never cared enough to research it cause it was just on the PTR. :P |
| 17:41.10 | Polarina | Average. |
| 17:41.42 | Lopeppeppy | I swear it works super-goodly, you just have to be lead or promoted assist, |Jelly|. I can live without it, but I live so much more nicely with it. Like my favorite cat. |
| 17:42.17 | |Jelly| | I was group leader on the PTR and it still just sat there and laughed at me. |
| 17:42.48 | Lopeppeppy | Bad addon, no biscuit. |
| 17:42.52 | Lopeppeppy | Oh, here's a fun thing. |
| 17:42.53 | Lopeppeppy | http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070906/ap_on_hi_te/internet_fees_justice_department;_ylt=AgaRIhx6678dEp.8BZWIgAms0NUE |
| 17:42.56 | Kaydeethree | wow... this is incredibly weird... in about 5 minutes, azureus won't have anything to download |
| 17:42.59 | |Jelly| | But like I said, it's only the PTR and I couldn't really care less there. I imagine when/if I get my paladin to a level that would require it's use, I'll figure it out and until then it's smart buff. :P |
| 17:43.06 | Kaydeethree | first time that's happened in~18 months |
| 17:43.17 | ScytheBlade1 | lol |
| 17:43.36 | ScytheBlade1 | Can anyone log into the PTR to give my druid a ginvite? Alliance side, PvE |
| 17:43.46 | Kaydeethree | sure, gimme 90s |
| 17:43.47 | Polarina | Could anyone test my addon on the PTR? |
| 17:44.14 | ScytheBlade1 | Sbooz is the name |
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| 17:45.28 | ScytheBlade1 | Heh, makes that easy. Thanks. |
| 17:45.34 | Kaydeethree | no prob |
| 17:46.18 | |Jelly| | "However, the agency said it will continue to monitor and enforce any anticompetitive conduct to ensure a competitive broadband marketplace." Isn't that pretty much what the entire thing is? |
| 17:46.42 | Kaydeethree | anti competitive? ya |
| 17:47.46 | Lopeppeppy | I think something similar has been the practice in Europe for a good long time -- extra charge for bandwidth. |
| 17:49.40 | Polarina | Would someone want to comment on my addon? :) |
| 17:50.06 | zenzelezz | it sucks. Ace it plz |
| 17:50.16 | zenzelezz | what's your addon? |
| 17:50.21 | Polarina | zenzelezz: Valuation. |
| 17:50.34 | krka | no way, you need to Rock it |
| 17:50.38 | Industrial | so I'm reparenting the blizzard actionbar buttons to my own frames and displaying them at the bottom of my screen |
| 17:50.40 | Polarina | ? |
| 17:50.41 | Industrial | http://pastey.net/73496 |
| 17:50.46 | Industrial | http://images.gammatester.com/pics/33c00e161fdf339616780fe5910b729c.jpg |
| 17:50.54 | Industrial | somehow the all have the same action ID's |
| 17:50.57 | Industrial | did I forget something? |
| 17:51.12 | Industrial | I want to keep this addon as simple as possible, so I dont even create any own buttons :P |
| 17:51.28 | alestane | Are you on live or the PTR? |
| 17:51.35 | Industrial | live |
| 17:52.02 | alestane | On live, the action buttons use their parent bars to identify which page they belong to. |
| 17:52.13 | Industrial | they dont on PTR? |
| 17:52.24 | Industrial | ah right, GetPagedID() |
| 17:52.35 | alestane | Take a look at ActionButton_GetPagedID on live and the PTR, it's been changed. |
| 17:52.56 | Industrial | k |
| 17:54.45 | alestane | Anyone know what's wrong with this snippet? http://wowi.pastey.net/73497 |
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| 17:55.32 | alestane | Could be PEBKAC, I submitted it to someone on the forum for their problem and all they say is, "It didn't work. |
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| 17:58.40 | Thunder_Child | alestane, while i am not a coder, should line 2 not have a closing bracket somewhere? |
| 17:58.54 | Thunder_Child | nvm, found it |
| 17:58.59 | alestane | It's on line 13. |
| 18:03.48 | Thunder_Child | out of curiosity, where do you get "state-hidden" from? |
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| 18:04.47 | alestane | when I register it with "hidden", the state driver will set the "state-hidden" attribute on the child frame...although it turned out there was a better option, we'll find out if it works. |
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| 18:04.58 | alestane | bbl folks. |
| 18:09.19 | Kaydeethree | http://img161.imageshack.us/img161/1193/screenshotazureusyz9.png |
| 18:09.21 | Kaydeethree | scary... |
| 18:10.53 | Polarina | Kaydeethree: GNOME? |
| 18:11.02 | zenzelezz | I always found Azureus scary |
| 18:11.07 | Kaydeethree | yup, fedora 7, using compiz for the pseudo-transparency |
| 18:11.18 | Kaydeethree | I'm just in shock at the fact that azu doesn't have anything to download |
| 18:11.21 | Polarina | Kaydeethree: :) |
| 18:11.22 | Kalroth | zenzelezz: Yeah, java applications does that to a person :p |
| 18:12.05 | Kaydeethree | I've yet to find a linux torrent app that's got as versatile of a queueing mechanism as azu |
| 18:12.05 | Polarina | If you read Java backwards, it almost sounds like Hawaii. |
| 18:12.37 | ScytheBlade1 | AZ is really the best we have on linux |
| 18:12.40 | zenzelezz | closer to "away" |
| 18:12.41 | ScytheBlade1 | End of story |
| 18:12.41 | Kaydeethree | "ah-va-juh" |
| 18:12.54 | zenzelezz | ScytheBlade1: I thought people Wine'd uTorrent? |
| 18:13.04 | ScytheBlade1 | Sure, some do |
| 18:13.19 | ScytheBlade1 | But I also use AZ on windows in some cases :P |
| 18:13.25 | ScytheBlade1 | It has features that I simply love. |
| 18:13.30 | Polarina | zenzelezz: µtorrent doesn't currently handle alcohol so well. |
| 18:13.34 | zenzelezz | well on Windows you lose the "best on Linux" argument =D |
| 18:13.42 | zenzelezz | Polarina: alcohol? o_O |
| 18:13.46 | ScytheBlade1 | lol |
| 18:13.57 | Polarina | zenzelezz: Wine has alcohol, doesn't it? |
| 18:14.20 | zenzelezz | yes, but I've heard of no major problems running it in Wine |
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| 18:14.52 | krka | torrentflux-b4rt kicks ass for torrents on linux |
| 18:14.55 | Polarina | zenzlezz: Any problem = Drunkness. |
| 18:15.11 | Kaydeethree | torrentflux is nice, but I've gotta break selinux to get it to work |
| 18:15.20 | krka | try the -b4rt edition |
| 18:15.23 | krka | it's more ajax-y |
| 18:15.39 | krka | yeah, torrentflux is annoying with its database setup |
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| 18:15.55 | krka | the ubuntu debian doesnt work out of the box, in my experience |
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| 18:16.44 | haste | krka: rtorrent ftw! :3 |
| 18:17.52 | krka | i tried it, didnt quite like it |
| 18:17.55 | Polarina | 787 downloads on 12 days. I thought it wouldn't even go close to 100 on the first 10 days. |
| 18:18.43 | clad|away | a.) grats, b.) why does it matter? |
| 18:19.10 | Polarina | clad|away: And your point with b) is? |
| 18:19.26 | haste | I would agree with clad |
| 18:19.31 | clad|away | You've mentioned it three or four times, I think it's great.. but why does it matter? |
| 18:19.38 | Polarina | That was the second time! |
| 18:19.40 | lolinternet | please excuse my swearing in the message after my next message: |
| 18:19.41 | lolinternet | http://news.wired.com/dynamic/stories/P/PATRIOT_ACT_LAWSUIT?SITE=WIRE&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT |
| 18:19.44 | lolinternet | FUCK YEAH |
| 18:19.59 | clad|away | Polarina: I'm not chastising you for repeating, although internally I'm annoyed. |
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| 18:20.08 | Polarina | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:20.09 | clad|away | Im'a sking you, DIRECTLY, why does it really matter to you how many people download it? |
| 18:20.20 | sag_ich_nicht | Polarina: read the article first |
| 18:20.31 | Polarina | clad|away: Sorry, I'll stop. |
| 18:21.24 | clad|away | Polarina: I don't wnat you to stop, I'm asking you a question |
| 18:21.31 | clad|away | why are you avoiding answering it |
| 18:21.35 | clad|away | I'm not being a dick, I'm asking a question |
| 18:21.42 | clad|away | and why should sag_ich_nicht get kicked? |
| 18:22.05 | Polarina | clad|away: Ok, I'll answer. Because I'm so supprised on how many downloads there are. |
| 18:22.12 | Polarina | clad|away: For swearing. |
| 18:22.24 | clad|away | swearing isn't an issue, especially in this context. |
| 18:22.26 | Lin | hi there |
| 18:22.28 | Polarina | Ok. |
| 18:22.37 | clad|away | Why? You wrote an addon that does something well, with minimal in-game overhead. You shouldn't be suprised at all |
| 18:22.40 | clad|away | that's how addons work :P |
| 18:22.44 | Lin | good (ugt) morning! |
| 18:22.48 | Punkie` | Hmm, that article is a bit weird |
| 18:22.58 | Punkie` | there have been so many laws passed in the US that are unconstitutional |
| 18:23.23 | sag_ich_nicht | [20:22] <Polarina> clad|away: For swearing. <--wow. |
| 18:23.25 | Thrae | I don't think this channel is suppose to be PG -- most of the people on this IRC channel are probably old enough to take it |
| 18:23.35 | sag_ich_nicht | 1. your sarcasm detector is broken 2. aren't you uptight? :P |
| 18:23.50 | Thrae | I mean, it's IRC. Little kids use all kinds of other crap nowadays. |
| 18:23.54 | clad|away | excessive swearing, or swearing for the sake of swearing isn't cool, regardless of the audience |
| 18:23.57 | Thrae | ~irc |
| 18:23.58 | purl | "Welcome to IRC: where the men are men, the women are men, and the little girls are FBI agents." |
| 18:24.03 | Polarina | sag_ich_nicht: My sarcasm detector isn't borken. |
| 18:24.08 | clad|away | and if you have a legitimate problem with someone in the channel, you should direct your complaint to an OP so they can take action |
| 18:24.19 | clad|away | not just state it into the channel. Sadly I don't read every single message here. |
| 18:24.27 | Polarina | Ok. |
| 18:24.35 | clad|away | (wasn't directed at you, just in general) |
| 18:24.35 | |Jelly| | You don't? :( |
| 18:24.41 | Polarina | Ok. |
| 18:24.45 | clad|away | hell no, i have too much work to do. |
| 18:24.59 | sag_ich_nicht | clad|away but then i would have to spam you in /query all the time because 2/3 of the people in here are drama magnets |
| 18:25.00 | sag_ich_nicht | :( |
| 18:25.14 | sag_ich_nicht | (okay maybe not 2/3) |
| 18:25.24 | Lin | 4/5? |
| 18:25.40 | Polarina | 1/10 |
| 18:25.41 | Polarina | ? |
| 18:26.16 | |Jelly| | I dunno, I seem to be able to cause drama without trying and when I'm trying to cause drama, I kill threads. :\ |
| 18:26.30 | Kaydeethree | I hate how that happens |
| 18:26.48 | |Jelly| | Me too. |
| 18:29.37 | Thunder_Child | ~whalestab |Jelly| |
| 18:29.38 | purl | ACTION stabs |Jelly| with a rather narrow and pointy whale named Montgomery |
| 18:29.49 | |Jelly| | ~whaleparry Thunder_Child |
| 18:29.50 | purl | ACTION uses a slightly less-huge but eminently more agile killer whale named Edwardo to parry Thunder_Child's attacks. |
| 18:29.59 | sag_ich_nicht | in b4 whalenuke |
| 18:30.14 | Thunder_Child | i dont think there is one |
| 18:30.17 | Thunder_Child | ~whalenuke |
| 18:30.27 | sag_ich_nicht | you have to give it a target |
| 18:30.30 | sag_ich_nicht | ~whalenuke Thunder_Child |
| 18:30.30 | purl | ACTION dons his radiation cloak and tinted glasses while a highly intelligent whale named Ray precipitates critical mass for uncontrolled nuclear fission around Thunder_Child with his mind powers |
| 18:31.22 | Thunder_Child | odd |
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| 18:36.51 | Lin | when I click on some mob I dont change the focus right? focus is changed just after focus target or target focus command, right? |
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| 18:38.33 | Polarina | Are there some UI development guilds on Europe, or just United States? |
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| 18:39.24 | Cidan | IERUYEIWQOQWIOUYOWUE |
| 18:39.35 | Lin | Cidan: hello! |
| 18:39.43 | Cidan | Lin, howdy. |
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| 18:39.50 | Lin | Cidan: how are you going? |
| 18:40.01 | Cidan | I'm well. |
| 18:40.03 | Cidan | Tired, but well. |
| 18:45.11 | Polarina | Anyone? |
| 18:46.41 | Wraanger | what you mean by "UI development guilds " ? |
| 18:46.47 | lolinternet | lol. |
| 18:47.02 | Polarina | http://www.wowwiki.com/In-game_Developer_Guilds |
| 18:47.07 | Polarina | Any guilds in EU? |
| 18:52.38 | Polarina | Why does this function http://www.wowwiki.com/API_SitStandOrDescendStart when called form 3rd part addon, actually work but still pop up with the window saying it's protected? |
| 18:54.21 | Polarina | It really makes your character sit/stand. |
| 18:58.47 | zenzelezz | good question |
| 19:00.40 | Polarina | Try it yourself and see. |
| 19:00.51 | zenzelezz | I did |
| 19:00.59 | Polarina | Don't bother reporting it to a GM. I already did the day 2.1.0 was released. |
| 19:02.26 | Intangir | ui development guilds? |
| 19:02.29 | Intangir | ive never heard of that |
| 19:02.49 | zenzelezz | on test servers usually |
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| 19:29.47 | bleeter | damnit, wonder why this 'AH Change' thread on the PTR forum ain't died yet |
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| 19:30.04 | bleeter | I tested the AH, and got no lag... if there's no change, it's just FUD spreading |
| 19:30.25 | bleeter | erm, s/lag/delay in receiving goods/ |
| 19:31.23 | bleeter | though, I guess it's conceivable that when I tested there was a random patch that disabled this 'new' behaviour, that's since come back... I'm still of the believe it's just mail-system overload or something... I'll test again, but lord only knows how to get Hortus to kill a thread that's already been reported |
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| 19:33.19 | bleeter | gmorn Cairenn, soz you got me in early morning whinge mode |
| 19:33.53 | bleeter | ooo, shiny new 7214 PTR |
| 19:36.12 | Polarina | :) |
| 19:37.58 | bleeter | damn, no realms up.. was hoping to take a cluebat to that AH thread, or join the list of moaning users ;) |
| 19:38.04 | bleeter | preferably the former |
| 19:41.59 | ScytheBlade1 | lol @ http://www.cnn.com/2007/TECH/science/09/04/dating.mating.ap/index.html |
| 19:42.17 | ScytheBlade1 | I have to wonder how many tens of thousands of dollars went into that "research" |
| 19:50.45 | ales|meeting | Interesting, the state driver will be able to show and hide frames directly based on other conditionals than unit existence starting in 2.2...that will make rewriting Goose a whole lot easier. |
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| 19:53.54 | Intangir | ok |
| 19:53.57 | Intangir | heres what i need |
| 19:54.04 | Intangir | an addon which lets me track my friends in a BG |
| 19:54.19 | Intangir | either on the maps (including minimap) or in the regular 3d view (like with a raid target) |
| 19:54.24 | Intangir | raid targets used to work great |
| 19:54.31 | Intangir | id set them before the BG and i could see them marked all game |
| 19:54.36 | Intangir | but they patched/broke that ;( |
| 19:54.49 | Saint-N | get cartographer |
| 19:54.58 | Saint-N | and get yer friends it too |
| 19:55.02 | Intangir | i have it |
| 19:55.07 | Intangir | i see there is a guildmate tracker |
| 19:55.09 | Intangir | but its for guildmates |
| 19:55.10 | Saint-N | i believe it has the ability to track them |
| 19:55.13 | Intangir | im not guilded |
| 19:55.18 | Saint-N | oh |
| 19:55.20 | Intangir | that would be about perfect otherwise |
| 19:55.29 | Intangir | i just sent the author an email requesting a fewture like that |
| 19:55.30 | Saint-N | so go tell sylv to add it ;P |
| 19:55.31 | Intangir | feature.. |
| 19:55.42 | Intangir | who? |
| 19:56.01 | bleeter | sylvanaar is a cartographer person, iirc |
| 19:56.06 | Intangir | i just emailed ckknight |
| 19:56.24 | Intangir | wowinterface said he was the author, or is it sylvanaar then? |
| 19:56.32 | Intangir | sylvanaar: are you there? |
| 19:56.42 | sylvanaar | its ckk |
| 19:56.57 | bleeter | all you wowace folks look the same to me ;) :P |
| 19:57.09 | Intangir | if there was a way to set a sync channel for friends to track them too, that should do it |
| 19:58.26 | ckknight | what's all this, then? |
| 19:59.33 | Intangir | oh hey |
| 19:59.43 | Intangir | i was just talking about a feature i think would rule for cartographer |
| 19:59.49 | Intangir | like guildmate tracker, but for friends |
| 19:59.51 | ckknight | get a guild |
| 20:00.00 | Intangir | i routinely group with people who are in different guilds |
| 20:00.07 | ckknight | for friends, there's no channel with which to communicate by |
| 20:00.13 | ckknight | which is why you can't track friends |
| 20:00.17 | ckknight | cause you can't communicate with them |
| 20:00.23 | Intangir | but what if you allowed a way for the users to set a sync channel |
| 20:00.26 | Intangir | and have your buddies set the same one |
| 20:00.53 | ckknight | theoretically, it's possible |
| 20:01.00 | ckknight | but it's both complex to do and a fringe case |
| 20:01.17 | Intangir | how bout this |
| 20:01.22 | Intangir | you invite them to your group before joining the BG |
| 20:01.30 | Intangir | your all still in the /party with eachother |
| 20:01.35 | ckknight | yea? |
| 20:01.36 | Intangir | can you sync with that easily? |
| 20:01.46 | Intangir | or if its a raid before joining the BG? |
| 20:01.48 | ckknight | you can already see them on the map if you're in a party |
| 20:01.58 | Intangir | when you join the BG it doesnt put you in the same party always |
| 20:02.06 | Intangir | also it shows them the same as anyone else in your party |
| 20:02.44 | Intangir | should it be just about as easy to sync with guildmates, as with raid members? or party members? |
| 20:03.03 | alestane | Slow day for forum regulars, Kamdis is fielding just about everything. |
| 20:06.07 | Intangir | or does anyone know of a way to set/use raid targets locally, with out having to be raid leader? (syncing doesnt matter) |
| 20:06.21 | Intangir | just need a way to track my friends in BGs so i dont get too far from the healers ;) |
| 20:07.16 | Lunessa | Nope, you have to be a party leader, raid leader or assistant to use the icons. |
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| 20:10.27 | alestane | I don't know Aloft real well but you might take a look at it and see if there's anything it can do for you. |
| 20:14.40 | Lunessa | alestane: I have learned from experience that adding comments to "please add X to the default UI" threads is like pouring blood in shark-infested waters; all those posters ever really want to hear is "Sure, we'll get right on that!" from Blizzard. |
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| 20:20.46 | Intangir | a way to set your own raid target icons would work too |
| 20:20.53 | Intangir | that dont sync, but just show up for you locally.. |
| 20:20.57 | alestane | The sad thing is I'm trying to help them get what they want...but yeah, I ran into that issue with a gnome a while ago...should have learned my lesson. |
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| 20:22.27 | alestane | It does always seem to inspire a bunch of "but they've done it before!" rejoinders. |
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| 20:24.27 | alestane | At least it did encourage the OP to think a little about how to make his case. |
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| 20:26.24 | Lunessa | alestane: I hear you. It's painful to watch, and as a result I just ignore those posts. |
| 20:26.38 | Lunessa | Probably a lot like Soulken does. |
| 20:29.08 | AnduinLothar | =D I'm uncrushable! *does the pally tank dance!* |
| 20:29.49 | alestane | My other attempt to help someone out today fell flat because I was looking at code that only exists on the PTR. |
| 20:31.15 | zenzelezz | lol |
| 20:31.32 | Saint-N | thats what you get for helping gnomes ;P |
| 20:31.48 | alestane | Actually it was a forsaken. |
| 20:31.56 | Saint-N | i mean how many times can someone tell you "but they arent real people!" before it sinks in ;) |
| 20:32.31 | Saint-N | the forsaken you have to forgive a bit though, they might have lost that bit of thier brain to rot ;P |
| 20:33.30 | alestane | Apothecary Keever: A textbook example of what happens when you hire people whose brains aren't quite ripe anymore. |
| 20:40.11 | alestane | Saint-N: http://www.blizzard.com/wow/screenshot.aspx?ImageIndex=150&Set=64 |
| 20:40.32 | Lunessa | The problem with these "Horde" characters is that they lack sophistication. /farts/ |
| 20:40.55 | alestane | Goes right there with the one about the bat handler. |
| 20:41.07 | alestane | I like the girl lines better for the most part. |
| 20:41.57 | Intangir | something so small shouldnt have the power to kill me |
| 20:43.32 | Polarina | OMG! My addon got the popular flag! |
| 20:43.43 | Intangir | what addon |
| 20:43.45 | Polarina | That is hard to believe. |
| 20:43.50 | bleeter | PTR seems to work OK with Wine GIT. Still haven't had a chance to thoroughly test voice. |
| 20:43.56 | alestane | Polarina: THat happens automatically when you hit 800. |
| 20:44.09 | Polarina | alestane: o.O |
| 20:44.27 | alestane | Goose just hit it too. |
| 20:44.28 | Intangir | is the voice stuff in on PTR? |
| 20:44.41 | Intangir | you use wine? |
| 20:44.44 | alestane | Intangir: Yes, although not 100% ripe. |
| 20:45.04 | Intangir | a previous version of the test servers wasnt working for me on wine, from like a month ago |
| 20:45.08 | Intangir | had to use cedega |
| 20:45.17 | Intangir | wine doesnt have any sound at all for me on the current version |
| 20:45.24 | Intangir | cedega still does |
| 20:45.32 | Polarina | Intangir: It will have sounds in Wine 0.9.45. |
| 20:45.44 | Intangir | i do on the live version |
| 20:45.46 | Intangir | but not the test version |
| 20:45.59 | bleeter | Intangir: indeed, either use wine git or wait for wine 0.9.45 |
| 20:46.16 | Intangir | is wine git the latest version in development or something? |
| 20:46.21 | Polarina | Yes. |
| 20:46.31 | Intangir | so they already fixed the thing with the new sound engine? |
| 20:46.33 | alestane | Intangir: They thoroughly rewrote the sound engine on the PTR. |
| 20:46.38 | Intangir | the new version has a new sound library i heard, is that true? |
| 20:46.46 | Polarina | No. |
| 20:46.48 | Intangir | cool |
| 20:46.54 | Polarina | Not in wine, at least. |
| 20:46.59 | Intangir | no i mean in wow |
| 20:47.04 | Intangir | i heard it was using a different sound system |
| 20:47.09 | Polarina | Yes, then that's true. |
| 20:47.12 | bleeter | wow 2.2 has completely re-written audio api, yes |
| 20:47.35 | Intangir | so wine already has a handle on it though eh ;) cool |
| 20:47.45 | bleeter | that tripped up some undocumented 'feature' in dsound, that would seem to be going all the way back to MS for some kinda real fix |
| 20:48.02 | bleeter | in the meantime, wine's been adjusted to do what windows does *now* (no matter how braindead that may be) |
| 20:48.32 | Intangir | wine is really advancing quickly isnt it, im pretty impressed |
| 20:48.40 | Intangir | they got ventrilo working 100% on it too |
| 20:48.42 | krka | wine pwns |
| 20:48.49 | Intangir | even the hotkey stuff |
| 20:49.01 | Polarina | bleeter: MS would be really suprised that none of their software was used to track down a bug they had. |
| 20:49.02 | Intangir | very happy with it |
| 20:50.25 | Intangir | i am getting faster FPS on linux with wine, than i get on windows |
| 20:50.40 | bleeter | needless to say, the fix that went into wine got Red Ocean and Eve working too ;) |
| 20:50.58 | amro | bleeter: I've got the same thing with prntscrn but keep forgetting to rebind |
| 20:51.05 | Polarina | bleeter: To add, on accident. |
| 20:51.05 | bleeter | prolly a bunch of other crap too |
| 20:51.05 | Intangir | whats wrong with it? |
| 20:52.34 | bleeter | something about a pointer for dsound still being available after the dll's unloaded |
| 20:52.37 | cog|work | !c us garona cogwheel |
| 20:52.40 | ThraeBot | cog|work: Cogwheel, Level 70 Gnome Warrior (35/26/0). 12274 HP; 11383 Armour; 670 AP; 103.5 Melee DPS; 16.11% melee crit; 37 melee hit; 238 defense; 12.33% dodge; 12.04% block; 10 arcane resist (+10);[[ TBR: 1472 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/yoxom7 ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/2jaer6 ][ Updated: Thu Sep 6 17:04:19 2007 ]] |
| 20:53.39 | bleeter | on windows, it 'just works' (although it's debatable whether Vista reliably does this or not). |
| 20:53.39 | bleeter | haven't had time or inclination to find out ;) |
| 20:54.00 | amro | it's really weird though, why it works |
| 20:54.05 | alestane | O god, another gnome with a weapon bigger than he is. |
| 20:54.28 | bleeter | amro: s/weird/totally screwed up/ |
| 20:54.32 | Intangir | bleeter: i dont see your comments about the new version on wowwiki |
| 20:54.53 | bleeter | Intangir: check the discussion page, until the PTR goes live, it's all discussion ;) |
| 20:55.09 | clad|away | Anyone wanna do a quick deDE or frFR localization for me? |
| 20:55.12 | clad|away | the strings are pretty easy |
| 20:55.25 | bleeter | Lufthansa! Peugot! |
| 20:55.33 | bleeter | do I fail? |
| 20:55.35 | amro | clad|away: sure, I can do frFR |
| 20:55.54 | Polarina | I can do enGB. |
| 20:55.55 | clad|away | CTRACKER_INCOMBAT = "In Combat" |
| 20:55.57 | clad|away | CTRACKER_DISPLAY = "%ds / %d dmg / %.2f dps" |
| 20:55.59 | clad|away | CTRACKER_MSG = "%d seconds spent in combat with %d incoming damage. Average incoming DPS was %.2f" |
| 20:56.01 | clad|away | those are the three I need |
| 20:56.03 | clad|away | the second is a listing of seconds, damage, and incoming dps |
| 20:56.27 | Intangir | bleeter: hey i noticed a trick to fixing the sound when you alt tab |
| 20:56.37 | Intangir | select the window in full screen again |
| 20:56.42 | Intangir | then switch to another workspace |
| 20:56.47 | Intangir | then switch back, sound works again |
| 20:57.16 | bleeter | Only time I've ever had that problem, is when the PTR defaults to NOT do what current live does, then all I had to do was check the 'enable sound in background' preference. |
| 20:57.56 | bleeter | (that's of the game... I have no idea, time or inclination to look in to why people are claiming this happens on live) |
| 20:57.57 | amro | clad|away: can you modify them to switch their order, or should I keep the order? |
| 20:57.59 | Intangir | that fixed it for you? cool |
| 20:58.50 | clad|away | we can modify them, just tell me which you need where |
| 20:59.02 | bleeter | can someone just confirm that sound in background is enabled by default in Windows/OSX on Live? I'd hate to report a 'bug' on PTR that isn't one. |
| 20:59.24 | bleeter | (that's to say, the new default preference should be what Live does natively... actually, I might've already reported it, gah can't recall) |
| 21:02.06 | bleeter | oh, hmm, it's a preference in Live, too. |
| 21:02.26 | alestane | All lua runs between frames right? |
| 21:02.40 | clad|away | thats an ambiguous questions alestane |
| 21:02.55 | Polarina | bleeter: Do you know a ETA for wine 0.9.45 to be released. It have been exactly 2 weeks since the release of 0.9.44. |
| 21:03.16 | alestane | All WoW script handlers are run during frame refreshes, correct? |
| 21:03.21 | bleeter | Polarina: every 14 days on a Friday is when they release, they've never missed one afaik |
| 21:03.30 | Polarina | alestane: Yes. |
| 21:03.34 | Polarina | bleeter: Ok, thanks. |
| 21:03.34 | amro | CTRACKER_INCOMBAT = "En Combat" |
| 21:03.34 | amro | CTRACKER_DISPLAY = "%ds / %d dégâts / %.2f dps" |
| 21:03.34 | amro | CTRACKER_MSG = "%d dégâts reçu en %d secondes. Moyenne de DPS: %.2f" |
| 21:03.38 | bleeter | Polarina: so I'd suspect sometime in the next 24 hours ;) |
| 21:03.44 | Polarina | bleeter: :) |
| 21:03.45 | Nom- | gah, such a hard decision to make as a paladin |
| 21:03.47 | amro | clad|away: switch the first two around in CTRACKER_MSG |
| 21:03.59 | clad|away | its still an ambiguous question. What specifically are you trying to find out? |
| 21:04.09 | Nom- | arena gear, do i go shockadin, retadin or healadin? :( |
| 21:04.18 | clad|away | amro: any chance you can use the escaped special character, or will that be too difficult? |
| 21:04.19 | Polarina | healadin. :) |
| 21:04.20 | amro | also, see if someone else with an frFR client can confirm dégâts, I'm not sure what the official translation is |
| 21:04.23 | Nom- | they're all a blast, so hard to decide |
| 21:04.27 | clad|away | i really appreciate your help |
| 21:04.33 | alestane | If a function shows a fontstring or texture, and another function hooked on the end of it hides it again, will it show up? |
| 21:04.45 | Polarina | Nom-: Try them all. :) |
| 21:04.54 | clad|away | if they are run sequentially, then yes they will all happen before the next refresh |
| 21:05.13 | clad|away | there's no interleaving of game client and handlers, its a single thread of excecution |
| 21:06.04 | alestane | So if I hooksecurefunc ActionButton_Update to hide the macro string, it won't show up? |
| 21:06.22 | clad|away | correct, the hook will be called before the next screen refresh |
| 21:06.33 | amro | clad|away: I don't know the escape codes for those characters, sorry |
| 21:06.38 | alestane | Or will this taint the fonstring object and all the action button code? |
| 21:06.42 | clad|away | okay, thank you |
| 21:07.04 | clad|away | alestane: if the font string is attached to a secure button, then you cannot hide it in combat |
| 21:07.05 | alestane | Doesn't seem like it should. |
| 21:07.08 | clad|away | it will be secure |
| 21:07.18 | clad|away | but no, calling a function won't taint anything, so long as no values are passed |
| 21:07.25 | alestane | clad|away: protection extends up, not down. |
| 21:07.38 | clad|away | yes, you're correct |
| 21:07.40 | clad|away | my mistake |
| 21:07.41 | amro | clad|away: np, don't forget to double-check with someone else just in case |
| 21:07.46 | clad|away | i had it backwards in my mind. |
| 21:08.06 | alestane | I will try it when I get home then, because people are always begging for a way to hide their macro names. |
| 21:08.22 | alestane | speaking of which, time to head home. |
| 21:08.32 | Polarina | alestane: I hide them by naming the macro with a single space. |
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| 21:09.06 | alestane | Polarina: That affects functionality though. You cannot refer to the macros by name, for instance in secure action buttons. |
| 21:09.33 | Polarina | No, I mean in Blizzards macro UI. |
| 21:09.58 | alestane | The result will be undefined if multiple macros share the same name...it could theoretically cause conflicts with other addons. |
| 21:10.21 | alestane | So there should be a way to do it regardless of the macro names. |
| 21:10.23 | Polarina | One space for first macro, two for second, and so on. |
| 21:10.41 | alestane | How do you find the macro you want if one needs editing? |
| 21:10.51 | Polarina | By the icon. |
| 21:11.39 | alestane | It's a functional solution, but not a clean one...especially if I can solve it with a 4-line mod. I'll let you know later. |
| 21:11.42 | zenzelezz | or just click on them and look at the content |
| 21:13.06 | Intangir | ckknight: you there? |
| 21:13.16 | ckknight | yea |
| 21:13.30 | bleeter | damnit |
| 21:13.39 | bleeter | people now asking me for Wine Eve support |
| 21:13.46 | Intangir | it should be possible to just change the 'GUILD' parameter in the RegisterComms call to .. raid or something shouldnt it? |
| 21:13.52 | Intangir | to do what i was talking about earlier |
| 21:14.13 | bleeter | I've been trying to be vague.. 'at a guess', 'i dunno 'coz I don't have Eve'.. but they keep asking argh... I should just keep my mouth shut |
| 21:14.25 | ckknight | to get people's positions? |
| 21:14.36 | Intangir | for friends in the raid who are running it |
| 21:14.39 | Intangir | ya |
| 21:14.41 | ckknight | if you're in a raid, you already know their positions. |
| 21:14.52 | Nom- | Polarina: I have tried them all, but now i'm buying pvp gear...have to commit to one spec |
| 21:14.55 | Intangir | it doesnt show raid members in the minimap unless they are in your group |
| 21:15.09 | amro | clad|away: CTRACKER_MSG = "%d dégâts subits en %d secondes. Moyenne de DPS: %.2f" is better |
| 21:15.13 | Polarina | Nom-: Buy all three sets. ;) |
| 21:15.34 | Intangir | im gonna give it a try, if it works ill send it back to you and you can include it if you want |
| 21:15.40 | ckknight | Intangir: and it doesn't show guild members on the minimap either |
| 21:15.55 | clad|away | thanks |
| 21:15.58 | Intangir | your addon shows guild members in the minimap though doesnt it? |
| 21:16.02 | ckknight | no |
| 21:16.44 | Nom- | Polarina: After 3 weeks of arena i'm about to buy my first piece...that's not really practical :) |
| 21:17.20 | Intangir | oh.. |
| 21:17.29 | Intangir | what does it do? only on the main map? |
| 21:18.47 | Nom- | Anyone seen a blue post on when patch day is ? |
| 21:18.55 | Nom- | I've heard a few pplz saying it's this week |
| 21:19.17 | bleeter | nope, ain't seen squat |
| 21:19.30 | bleeter | and given the new PTR's pretty recent, I'd guess that they don't know for sure yet, either |
| 21:19.57 | bleeter | though they're prolly hoping for next week just to get the freakin' thing out the door ;) |
| 21:20.10 | bleeter | but if major probs still appear over the weekend, etc. etc. :) |
| 21:21.09 | Intangir | i think bleeting is the what a goat does when its scared ;) |
| 21:21.22 | Intangir | like crying for a goat hehe |
| 21:21.26 | bleeter | that's bleat, l2spell |
| 21:21.36 | Intangir | oh big difference ;) |
| 21:22.11 | bleeter | B.Leeter Yaluser, for the 'full name' ;) |
| 21:22.33 | Intangir | whats your characters name? |
| 21:22.44 | bleeter | which one, I suffer from alt-itits |
| 21:23.23 | Intangir | nm i thought i had killed a character named yaluser today in BGs |
| 21:23.31 | Intangir | but i just did a search and it says no characters are named that |
| 21:23.38 | bleeter | indeed ;) |
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| 21:32.20 | bleeter | though I've just corrected that |
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| 21:49.54 | Punkie` | I was so jealous at work today :( |
| 21:50.05 | Punkie` | a collegue got their 24" iMac delivered |
| 21:50.09 | Punkie` | purty |
| 21:54.45 | amro | you know what the right thing to do when you're jealous: break it |
| 21:55.27 | Punkie` | or just give in and buy myself one :D |
| 21:55.51 | amro | that too :) |
| 21:56.00 | Punkie` | I like this idea :o |
| 21:56.20 | Nom- | Arena calculations have been modified. In addition, the penalty for smaller arena teams (2v2, 3v3) has been slightly reduced. |
| 21:56.26 | Nom- | hmm does anyone know how they've been modified ? |
| 21:56.31 | Nom- | more points, or less ? |
| 21:57.13 | Punkie` | I would say that means more points |
| 21:58.14 | zenzelezz | I would guess so too |
| 21:58.18 | [dRaCo] | penalty reduced --> more points. |
| 21:58.19 | [dRaCo] | yay |
| 21:59.28 | Nom- | No, it says in addition penalty has been reduced |
| 21:59.46 | Nom- | for all we know, they could have made the points curve different, so lower ratings end up with less points than they do now |
| 22:00.54 | Intangir | lol why do the name the directory 'wtf' |
| 22:01.08 | zenzelezz | Warcraft Text File |
| 22:01.17 | zenzelezz | it's on the support page |
| 22:01.19 | Intangir | suure ;) |
| 22:01.24 | Intangir | thats what they want you to think |
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| 22:13.38 | Industrial | "Have a good one" |
| 22:13.42 | Industrial | have a good what? |
| 22:14.38 | zenzelezz | day, dinner, wank, think it's open for whatever you intend to do |
| 22:14.51 | cog|work | i wouldn't mind a good one |
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| 22:16.46 | Lunessa | cog|work: I think the same can be said of all males. |
| 22:17.45 | cog|work | sometimes i wish taunt worked in PvP... but then it seems like everybody attacks me anyway so... |
| 22:18.58 | zenzelezz | I don't see a reason why it shouldn't work something similar to distract |
| 22:19.43 | cog|work | if they did let it work, it should have diminishing returns imo |
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| 22:20.41 | zenzelezz | for PvP, of course |
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| 22:22.38 | Lunessa | Yeah, I'm not fond of PvP mechanics that remove your (the player) ability to control your own actions. |
| 22:23.09 | zenzelezz | I don't want it to be a sticky effect, just one that makes you at least face the taunter, perhaps target |
| 22:23.13 | Lunessa | Fear, Polymorph, etc. are bad enough, add in charm and taunt effects, and... ewww. |
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| 22:27.23 | Wobin_ | hm |
| 22:27.34 | Wobin_ | taunt would be ... difficult... to implement |
| 22:28.04 | Wobin_ | cause the current usage in pve, if you, for example, taunt a caster, midcast, they target you -after- the current cast |
| 22:28.04 | cog|work | actually i don't think it would be much harder than distract or feign death |
| 22:28.16 | cog|work | well that might still hold true |
| 22:28.31 | cog|work | because the target of your cast is sent to the server with the cast itself |
| 22:28.59 | Wobin_ | it would seem... odd, to suddenly retarget to someone who may be completely out of range after a channeled spell, for example |
| 22:29.31 | Wobin_ | And would it force you to retarget them with no chance for change? |
| 22:29.43 | Wobin_ | or would it allow you to retarget after a certain period |
| 22:29.50 | zenzelezz | well, actually targetting someone seems a bit harsh for PvP, but I would appreciate the face-me aspect |
| 22:29.55 | cog|work | as long as the debuff exists you can't change targets |
| 22:34.01 | amro | but the game isn't balanced for it PvP-wise |
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| 22:49.35 | Tem|Class | amro, sure it is |
| 22:49.41 | Tem|Class | it's just balanced around group pvp |
| 22:49.46 | Tem|Class | arena-ish |
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| 22:53.19 | amro | Tem|Class: I only do world pvp :) |
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| 22:54.54 | Shirik | !vs us drenden kimina us burning legion jelly |
| 22:54.56 | ThraeBot | Shirik: Kimina vs Jelly! Two 70 priests square off!; Kimina wins by 71 TBRs! |
| 22:54.59 | Shirik | woosh |
| 22:55.14 | |Jelly| | Not in the mood. :\ |
| 22:55.18 | Shirik | aww <3 |
| 23:01.20 | Mr_Rabies2 | dammit |
| 23:01.26 | Mr_Rabies2 | i was just about to ask ckknight something about dogtag |
| 23:01.26 | Mr_Rabies2 | :X |
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| 23:03.44 | alestane | Hiding macro text works quite handily. |
| 23:03.47 | Mr_Rabies2 | aha, i got it |
| 23:04.20 | Mr_Rabies2 | yeah i had to hide the macrotext in bartender, it was getting annoying |
| 23:05.03 | alestane | Well, I have just devised a simple sheme to hide the macro names on stock action buttons as well. |
| 23:05.09 | alestane | s/sheme/scheme/ |
| 23:05.10 | Polarina | What is it? |
| 23:05.57 | alestane | hooksecurefunc("ActionBUtton_Update", function (...) getglobal(this:GetName().."Name"):Hide() end ) |
| 23:06.03 | alestane | caps |
| 23:06.17 | Polarina | :) |
| 23:06.18 | alestane | "ActionButton_Update" |
| 23:06.28 | Polarina | s/:)/:(/ |
| 23:06.31 | Polarina | rofl |
| 23:06.43 | Polarina | :):):) |
| 23:06.51 | Polarina | s/:)/:(/ |
| 23:06.59 | Polarina | :):):) |
| 23:07.05 | Polarina | s/:)/:(/r |
| 23:07.15 | Polarina | That bot is not working correctly. |
| 23:07.21 | alestane | Just need to package it up with a checkbox...should the setting be saved globally or per character? |
| 23:09.12 | Polarina | alestane: Why you use getglobal()? |
| 23:09.20 | Polarina | It's much faster to use the table _G. |
| 23:09.58 | alestane | The function is called so infrequently that the performance hit is unlikely to have any noticeable impact. |
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| 23:11.56 | Mr_Rabies2 | hrm |
| 23:12.02 | Mr_Rabies2 | for some reason modifier + numpad = nothing |
| 23:12.45 | alestane | Which modifier? |
| 23:12.52 | Lunessa | Modifier + Numpad is often a different function in Windows. |
| 23:13.06 | Mr_Rabies2 | any, alestane |
| 23:13.07 | Lunessa | Specifically ALT |
| 23:13.28 | alestane | shift+numpad = home, end, etc. |
| 23:13.32 | Mr_Rabies2 | ooh, alt works actually |
| 23:13.40 | Mr_Rabies2 | but not ctrl or shift |
| 23:13.45 | Mr_Rabies2 | it's numpad 5 |
| 23:13.52 | Mr_Rabies2 | which has no alt function |
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| 23:14.40 | alestane | ctrl should work, at least it always has for me. |
| 23:15.33 | Mr_Rabies2 | not fot me |
| 23:16.03 | Mr_Rabies2 | aha i think i found out why |
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| 23:16.48 | alestane | ckknight: does Cartographer_Import support CTMapMod? |
| 23:16.50 | Mr_Rabies2 | yeah, ctrl works, but alt doesn't |
| 23:16.59 | Mr_Rabies2 | er, shift, rather doesn't |
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| 23:31.42 | alestane | What was that? |
| 23:32.33 | cog|work | ~netsplit |
| 23:32.34 | purl | it has been said that netsplit is something that happens when two IRC servers lose their link, thus isolating the users on every side from each other. a normal part of ALL irc networks, despite what some people bitching about larger networks may seem to think, or an orchestra of poips and thwoops, or something which occurs frequently on OPN |
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| 23:32.45 | cog|work | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Netsplit |
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| 23:33.41 | Shirik|Ghost | wow |
| 23:33.41 | Shirik|Ghost | so I wasn't the only one |
| 23:33.41 | Shirik|Ghost | was that a netsplit? Because I got dced >.> |
| 23:33.41 | alestane | No, sounds like cog nailed that one from the description. |
| 23:33.42 | Thrae_ | Can anyone see my message? I'm not getting a response from NickServ. |
| 23:34.21 | alestane | Thrae_: Yes. |
| 23:34.21 | cog|work | yes, Thrae |
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| 23:34.21 | zenzelezz | you were the only one, the rest were just sympathy quits |
| 23:34.21 | cog|work | Shirik|Ghost: most was split |
| 23:34.21 | alestane | Shirik|Ghost: Yes, that sure looked like a netsplit. |
| 23:34.21 | Shirik|Ghost | 14(1911:3011:5314) * Unable to connect to server (Connection timed out) |
| 23:34.21 | Shirik|Ghost | - |
| 23:34.21 | Shirik|Ghost | 14(1911:3111:0314) * Connect retry #7 140.211.166.3 (6667) |
| 23:34.21 | Shirik|Ghost | =( |
| 23:34.21 | Thrae | That was a serious netsplit there. |
| 23:34.23 | cog|work | Shirik|Ghost: then it may have been the node you were connected to that went down |
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| 23:35.24 | Shirik | I promise I didn't do it |
| 23:36.43 | ThraeBot | http://tinyurl.com/ymjtev A tiny link [Thrae] |
| 23:36.51 | Thrae | Well that works too now |
| 23:36.57 | Shirik | !tiny |
| 23:36.57 | Shirik | ? |
| 23:37.13 | Thrae | !help t |
| 23:37.13 | ThraeBot | !t <url> [optional stuff after] -- Tinifies a URL. Use /msg ThraeBot t #<channel> <url> [optional stuff after] to sends the message to the channel, if bot and sender are in it. |
| 23:37.52 | alestane | So, I think someone may try to charge me with leaving the scene of an accident. |
| 23:38.03 | ThraeBot | http://tinyurl.com/3dkt2b Beautiful. Purely beautiful. [Shirik] |
| 23:38.05 | Shirik | cool :) |
| 23:38.28 | zenzelezz | alestane: that's why you kill the witnesses |
| 23:39.04 | zenzelezz | wait, you said accident, not crime |
| 23:39.13 | alestane | I rolled back a little at an intersection and may have come into contact with the bumper behind me as I hit the brakes...wouldn't have thought anything of it but I swear the guy tailed me home and drove away. |
| 23:40.20 | Shirik | does anyone know what umode 6 is? |
| 23:41.51 | alestane | Shirik: In what context? |
| 23:41.56 | Shirik | IRC? |
| 23:42.00 | alestane | Nope. |
| 23:42.17 | Shirik | every time I try to set umode w, I get this: |
| 23:42.19 | Shirik | Unknown MODE flag |
| 23:42.19 | Shirik | 14(1911:3911:2314) 11-› Shirik sets mode: -6+w |
| 23:42.19 | Shirik | 14(1911:3911:2614) 11-› services. sets mode: +6 |
| 23:43.20 | alestane | But yeah, the fellow was directly behind me from that moment until I entered my driveway, signaled every turn a moment after I did, and when I pulled into my driveway, I saw his head swivel to watch me like I had him on a string before he kept going. |
| 23:45.30 | Lunessa | alestane: Did you get a plate number/description? |
| 23:45.48 | alestane | It was a black toyota, that was all I really noticed. |
| 23:46.00 | alestane | Probably a Corolla. |
| 23:46.34 | alestane | And while I shouldn't have slipped, if I hit him then he was way too close to me, I didn't slip that far. |
| 23:47.03 | Shirik | and he shouldn't have left you |
| 23:47.05 | Shirik | if he hit you |
| 23:47.08 | Shirik | er |
| 23:47.10 | Shirik | if you hit him |
| 23:47.20 | Shirik | if he knew where you lived, then he should have come up to you after you pulled into driveway |
| 23:47.26 | Shirik | how were you supposed to know you hit him |
| 23:48.27 | alestane | Well, he never tried to indicate to me that he wanted me to pull over, and he should have gotten my attention, yeah, when I got home. I'd ignore the whole thing except for the way he watched me enter my driveway, his attention was totally on me as I turned off the road. |
| 23:49.04 | JoshBorke | shirik: hi |
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| 23:49.44 | zenzelezz | alestane: he may have expected there to be some damage and noticed he was wrong when he got home or something |
| 23:49.51 | cog|work | i did that to someone once but it was for almost running me off the road, not just backing into me lightly... |
| 23:50.35 | alestane | I wasn't even sure at the time if I'd touched his car or if it was just my brakes catching me, if I touched him it was that light. |
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| 23:51.17 | Shirik | wait hold up |
| 23:51.20 | Shirik | what happened? |
| 23:51.38 | Shirik | how did he hit your back |
| 23:51.41 | Shirik | yet it was your fault? |
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| 23:57.17 | zenzelezz | god I hate MSN |
| 23:57.22 | alestane | I was rolling back at the time, I drive a five -speed and I was on the clutch for a hair too long before I caught the brake. |
| 23:57.30 | zenzelezz | apparently it thinks an .mp3 is potentially harmful and refuses to run it |
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| 23:58.02 | alestane | But I didn't roll back more than maybe nine inches, if we bumped he was way too close to me. |
