| 00:00.01 | Tuller | try turning on and off sticky bars in the options menu |
| 00:00.04 | Shirik | zenzelezz: probably |
| 00:03.48 | Cidan | btw |
| 00:03.51 | Cidan | FMOD blows. |
| 00:03.59 | Cidan | afk, food |
| 00:06.31 | Shirik | Tuller: no dice :( |
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| 00:11.58 | Tuller | Shirik: That's all i can think of off the top of my head |
| 00:12.08 | Shirik | we might have just fixed it |
| 00:12.34 | Shirik | this time he turned sticky bars off when he moved em |
| 00:12.41 | Shirik | what does that do anyway? |
| 00:13.14 | Tuller | well turning it off should force a reposition relative to UIParent |
| 00:13.23 | Tuller | stickybars just allows you to dock one bar to another |
| 00:13.46 | Shirik | well before he was trying to move them with stickybars on |
| 00:13.58 | bleeter | proposed patches for Wine WoW hang on exit can be found http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=9479 |
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| 00:14.04 | bleeter | no idea if they work yet |
| 00:14.08 | TS|Skrom_ | ping deltron |
| 00:21.08 | TS|Skrom_ | FYI Bioshock kicks ass |
| 00:21.08 | Shirik | woot |
| 00:21.12 | Shirik | someone wrote sudo for vista |
| 00:21.12 | Shirik | muahaha |
| 00:21.47 | ScytheBlade1 | Yeah, it's called runas.exe.. |
| 00:21.56 | Shirik | that's a pain |
| 00:22.07 | Shirik | I want a simple "sudo notepad" |
| 00:23.12 | bleeter | confirmed, the patch works for me |
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| 00:24.55 | art3mis | rename runas.exe to sudo.exe |
| 00:25.00 | art3mis | ;) |
| 00:25.06 | Kaydeethree | ... |
| 00:26.40 | bleeter | Kaydeethree, ScytheBlade1 etc., the fix for the hang on exit works against Wine GIT, too |
| 00:26.50 | art3mis | http://www.xkcd.com/ |
| 00:27.08 | ScytheBlade1 | bleeter, I'll poke with it, thanks... have a link by chance? |
| 00:27.20 | Kaydeethree | that'd be awesome |
| 00:27.25 | Kaydeethree | tam beating up everyone |
| 00:27.26 | art3mis | yes it would |
| 00:27.40 | bleeter | http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=9479#c17 |
| 00:27.57 | bleeter | I've updated the WoWWIki Linux/wine talk page accordingly |
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| 00:28.36 | ScytheBlade1 | Awesome, ty |
| 00:28.51 | art3mis | Just wanted to update I just mocked something up for myself that will |
| 00:28.51 | art3mis | keep track of handle parents/children so we can properly free children from |
| 00:28.51 | art3mis | InternetCloseHandle like native does and it looks like it will be a pretty |
| 00:28.51 | art3mis | straightforward |
| 00:29.00 | art3mis | that would work in real life too |
| 00:29.50 | bleeter | I've linked the bugzilla entry against the 2.2 AppDB entry as well, so it's way easy to find from various points of reference in future (until a commit goes in) |
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| 00:54.50 | Wobwork | ahaha |
| 00:54.50 | Wobwork | "The Xbox Live online service disallows screen names like LINUXRULES, L I N U X, and other variations of these kinds. Other bloggers are reporting that variants of 'Unix' also result in the message: 'Your motto contains inappropriate language. Please try again.'" |
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| 01:02.24 | Shirik | Wobwork: awesome |
| 01:04.27 | Mr_Rabies2 | is the name "Linux" copyrighted or similar? |
| 01:04.42 | Mr_Rabies2 | because i know using copyrighted names in WoW and i believe Xbox Live is against the ToS |
| 01:08.02 | bleeter | both Linux and Unix are (TM)s |
| 01:08.59 | bleeter | but, given what MSN does to URLs with stuff like .php at the end, I wouldn't be suprised if it was for more nefarious reasons |
| 01:09.38 | Shirik | ?? |
| 01:09.41 | Shirik | what does MSN do? |
| 01:10.11 | bleeter | squelches them |
| 01:10.25 | bleeter | there's a bunch of URLs it'll simply refuse to pass through |
| 01:10.35 | Shirik | ??! |
| 01:10.51 | Shirik | must be asp!! |
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| 01:11.38 | bleeter | can't quite recall the exact thing, a simple http://www.test.com/url.php will get through, but more complicated stuff wont. |
| 01:11.46 | bleeter | It's further proof what a dogs breakfast MSN is |
| 01:12.32 | bleeter | I won't explain why YIM is total ass too, and the protocols deserve each other ... trust me on it, though ;) |
| 01:14.37 | Mr_Rabies2 | if you run through the banned char names and stuff in wow's mpq's it's pretty damn hilarious |
| 01:14.42 | Mr_Rabies2 | i'd love to have been the guy making that list |
| 01:15.18 | bleeter | can't believe he missed out gaysex |
| 01:15.23 | bleeter | *still can't... |
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| 01:18.16 | Mr_Rabies2 | i wish netherwing rep wasn't such a bitch |
| 01:18.21 | Mr_Rabies2 | the quests get boring really fast |
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| 01:18.44 | Mr_Rabies2 | at least ogri'la's have lasted me up until almost exalted with them and skyguard |
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| 01:21.21 | Mr_Rabies2 | "longusdongus" is one of the phrases that trips the profanity filter |
| 01:21.27 | Mr_Rabies2 | man i love reading the .dbc files :P |
| 01:21.39 | Mr_Rabies2 | it's comedy gold for immature folks like myself |
| 01:22.06 | Mr_Rabies2 | "buttslam" |
| 01:22.10 | bleeter | does it get updated regularly? it'd be interesting to track changes vs words appearing in popular culture |
| 01:22.27 | AnduinLothar | why would that be interestig? |
| 01:22.44 | Mr_Rabies2 | yeah, bleeter |
| 01:22.50 | Mr_Rabies2 | they've got gold sellers and stuff in here |
| 01:22.53 | bleeter | to anyone with a passing interest in linguistics/pop culture, etc. etc. |
| 01:22.57 | Mr_Rabies2 | "itembay" |
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| 01:47.25 | ScytheBlade1 | bleeter, 3/3 of those patches to fix the locking up on exit failed to apply |
| 01:48.19 | bleeter | ScytheBlade1: did you remember to stripe the first prefix slash? eg, -p1 ? |
| 01:48.26 | bleeter | *strip |
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| 01:48.33 | ScytheBlade1 | patch -p1 < p1.patch |
| 01:48.51 | ScytheBlade1 | repeated with p2 and p3 |
| 01:49.03 | bleeter | no idea, works fine for me here. |
| 01:49.07 | ScytheBlade1 | Hmm |
| 01:49.51 | ScytheBlade1 | bleeter, can you give me a diff, before and after you applied all three patches? |
| 01:49.58 | ScytheBlade1 | And which git revision are you at? |
| 01:50.11 | bleeter | wine-0.9.44-195-g282696b |
| 01:50.51 | bleeter | ScytheBlade1: http://norganna.org/up/show.php/IVLYFo/wine_wow_no_hang_on_exit.patch |
| 01:51.24 | ScytheBlade1 | bleeter, applied perfectly.. |
| 01:54.18 | ScytheBlade1 | lol |
| 01:54.21 | ScytheBlade1 | Uh, that's bad |
| 01:56.20 | ScytheBlade1 | Some random prick in ##linux was DCCing everyone trojans.. |
| 01:56.52 | Cidan | trojans |
| 01:56.55 | Cidan | in #linux |
| 01:56.58 | Wobwork | ... |
| 01:57.04 | Cidan | where everyone runs linux |
| 01:57.08 | Cidan | right. |
| 01:57.11 | Wobwork | I hope it involved giant wooden horses =P |
| 01:57.12 | Cidan | that'll work out well. |
| 01:57.15 | ScytheBlade1 | Windows trojans. |
| 01:57.30 | Wobwork | aha, trying to weed out the liars? =) |
| 01:57.40 | ScytheBlade1 | I got nine DCC offers in seconds |
| 01:58.16 | ScytheBlade1 | <manikfox> i don't get why he would spam .exe in a linux channels? <-- funny because it's true |
| 01:59.00 | ScytheBlade1 | ... right as we were doing SSC murlocs too |
| 01:59.04 | ScytheBlade1 | That wiped the raid |
| 01:59.14 | Gngsk | anyone else having issues with ctscreens, sidebar seems to be empty |
| 02:00.18 | Gngsk | nvm, pay not attention to my idiocy |
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| 02:10.49 | Kaydeethree | wtf... people are actually shelling out the money it takes to upgrade to BC in order to use premades... |
| 02:10.54 | Kaydeethree | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=1371572821&sid=1 |
| 02:11.14 | JoshBork2 | nn |
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| 02:29.07 | art3mis | wow im not ever sure what to make of that |
| 02:29.17 | art3mis | he's obviously blue light |
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| 02:50.28 | Guillotine | anybody know anything about C? or know what the error "error: no include path in which to search for stdio.h" means? Wonder if it has to do with my PATH incident yesterday... |
| 02:50.48 | Cidan | what OS? |
| 02:50.52 | Guillotine | vista |
| 02:50.58 | Cidan | what compiler? |
| 02:51.01 | Guillotine | both GNU and SCITE are giving the same error |
| 02:51.03 | |Jelly| | !c us burning legion kevz |
| 02:51.09 | ThraeBot | |Jelly|: Kevz, Level 70 Undead Warlock (27/34/0). 6551 HP; 6175 Mana; 111 mana regen; 52 spell crit; 38 spell hit; 323 +spell dmg/heal; 4.28% dodge; 33 resilience; 10 shadow resist (+10);[[ TBR: 853 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/2f6qja ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/2pqv4m ][ Updated: Tue Sep 4 09:32:57 2007 ]] |
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| 02:51.27 | Cidan | what are you using to compile? |
| 02:51.47 | Guillotine | GNU and SCITE :) |
| 02:52.03 | Cidan | You mean gcc? |
| 02:52.08 | Guillotine | yup |
| 02:52.27 | Cidan | quick way is to -I/path/to/headers |
| 02:52.35 | Cidan | but |
| 02:52.43 | Cidan | it's likely the PATH issue |
| 02:52.49 | cladhaire | indeed |
| 02:53.03 | Guillotine | and I've added the location of all the headers to the PATH variable :/ |
| 02:53.09 | Guillotine | and still gives same error |
| 02:53.18 | Cidan | Did you do it correctly? |
| 02:53.38 | Guillotine | its certainly in the path. just typing stdio.h tries to open it |
| 02:54.28 | Cidan | curious, where are you getting your windows gcc package? |
| 02:54.40 | Guillotine | the GCC wiki |
| 02:54.44 | Guillotine | windows binaries |
| 02:54.59 | Guillotine | but the SCITE compiler gives the exact same error |
| 02:55.49 | bleeter | Kaydeethree: you'd love http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=1371412601&sid=1 then |
| 02:56.21 | Kaydeethree | yah, I saw. couldn't come up with a properly sarcastic comment that wouldn't get hortus pissed at me |
| 02:56.34 | Cidan | link me, I'll install it here |
| 02:56.48 | Cidan | never really used gcc in windows |
| 02:56.55 | Cidan | except in cygwin |
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| 02:57.21 | Cidan | Wait, are you using minigw or cyg? |
| 02:57.29 | art3mis | wow |
| 02:57.41 | art3mis | at that point why wouldnt you just edit it and go oops wrong board |
| 02:57.49 | Guillotine | Cidan: http://gcc.gnu.org/wiki/GFortranBinaries |
| 02:57.55 | Guillotine | mingw |
| 02:58.49 | Cidan | did you actually go to the minigw site and download it...? |
| 02:59.25 | Cidan | http://www.mingw.org/download.shtml#hdr2 |
| 02:59.37 | Guillotine | nope |
| 02:59.42 | Cidan | Do that. :P |
| 02:59.58 | Guillotine | i don't see why SCITE would give the same error though |
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| 03:00.24 | Cidan | likely the GFortran stuff didn't set something somewhere |
| 03:00.29 | Cidan | that is required |
| 03:00.57 | bleeter | ~pil |
| 03:00.58 | purl | pil is probably Programming in Lua, a book written by the authors of the Lua programming language. The first edition is available free online at http://www.lua.org/pil and covers Lua 5.0. The second edition is available in print from most online bookstores, and covers Lua 5.1. |
| 03:00.59 | art3mis | hey dumb question time |
| 03:01.17 | Kaydeethree | ~asktoask |
| 03:01.18 | purl | This is IRC. Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question and if someone's around, they'll be glad to help. |
| 03:01.29 | art3mis | it's not possible to use the xml execute stuff run external non loaded programs right? |
| 03:01.38 | Cidan | no |
| 03:01.40 | art3mis | i didnt ask assface |
| 03:01.51 | art3mis | i just stated that a dumb question was coming ;P |
| 03:01.52 | Kaydeethree | bah, that's what I get for half-reading your sentence |
| 03:02.02 | Guillotine | ~lart Kaydeethree |
| 03:02.02 | purl | executes killall -HUP Kaydeethree |
| 03:02.05 | art3mis | heh |
| 03:02.28 | art3mis | that a limit in how wow "reads" it? |
| 03:03.05 | Cidan | it just doesn't execute it |
| 03:04.00 | art3mis | did you test to make sure? |
| 03:04.07 | art3mis | or just going on the assumption it doesnt? |
| 03:04.21 | Cidan | uh |
| 03:04.26 | Cidan | by external non loaded programs |
| 03:04.29 | Cidan | what do you mean? |
| 03:04.31 | Cidan | lua files? |
| 03:04.33 | Cidan | xml? |
| 03:04.36 | Cidan | binaries? |
| 03:05.25 | art3mis | well ya know that execute code thats in xml? |
| 03:05.32 | art3mis | that allows you to "run" stuff? |
| 03:05.34 | Shirik | because Blizzard wrote the XML parser |
| 03:05.37 | Shirik | well |
| 03:05.43 | Cidan | not really, no. |
| 03:05.45 | Shirik | not the parser, but the parsing ... stuff |
| 03:05.49 | Cidan | You've lost me totally. |
| 03:06.04 | Shirik | like when you use the SAX library. You may not have to deal with XML directly |
| 03:06.06 | art3mis | like press a button and execute this_thing |
| 03:06.08 | Shirik | but you still gotta do it |
| 03:06.19 | Shirik | I'm farly certain Blizzard would leave such a functionality out |
| 03:06.22 | art3mis | thats sorta xml code with buttons and what not |
| 03:06.23 | Cidan | Guillotine, http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=2435&package_id=240780 |
| 03:06.34 | Cidan | what |
| 03:06.35 | Cidan | is |
| 03:06.35 | Iriel | Well, the XML says 'compile this code and then set it as the OnClick handler for the button you're about to create' |
| 03:06.39 | art3mis | me too shirik, it just occurred to me the other day |
| 03:06.39 | Cidan | this_thing |
| 03:06.52 | Cidan | a binary? a part of lua? |
| 03:06.56 | Shirik | Cidan: wow. |
| 03:07.02 | Cidan | He's not making sense! |
| 03:07.03 | Cidan | :( |
| 03:07.03 | art3mis | a python script a lua a bat file whatever |
| 03:07.03 | Shirik | I didn't know you were that confused |
| 03:07.12 | art3mis | whatever you decided to make it |
| 03:07.14 | Cidan | Then no. |
| 03:07.17 | art3mis | in REAL lua |
| 03:07.20 | Shirik | you never had FLE in your elementary school did you? |
| 03:07.20 | art3mis | you can do that |
| 03:07.25 | Cidan | I hope you die. |
| 03:07.29 | Shirik | =P |
| 03:07.42 | art3mis | so i was wondering if it was wows lua or just the way wow handles the lua |
| 03:07.43 | Cidan | I hope you're lab full of freshmen glue you to your seat. |
| 03:07.47 | Shirik | hahaha |
| 03:07.57 | Shirik | s/you're/your/ |
| 03:08.02 | Cidan | your |
| 03:08.05 | Cidan | god damn it |
| 03:08.07 | Iriel | WoW doesn't make the required libraries available to us to do that |
| 03:08.08 | Cidan | I'm going to go level. |
| 03:08.17 | Shirik | <3 |
| 03:08.25 | art3mis | thanks ire |
| 03:08.29 | art3mis | iri |
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| 03:15.31 | Cidan | So I'm totally deleting my Nelf rogue |
| 03:15.40 | Cidan | and after seeing how bad ass they are, making a gnome one. |
| 03:17.35 | Cidan | And he shall be known... as "Speckles" |
| 03:19.00 | Iriel | Why would you delete your nelf? |
| 03:19.12 | Iriel | Why not just not play it for a while? |
| 03:19.42 | Cidan | He's only level 12 |
| 03:19.54 | Cidan | And a total twink. |
| 03:21.44 | Cidan | Hmm, Alch/Herb or leather/skin? |
| 03:23.14 | art3mis | depends do you wanna make or spend money ;) |
| 03:23.44 | art3mis | mine/skin ;P |
| 03:23.47 | art3mis | to make money |
| 03:24.08 | Cidan | I have a ton on my other |
| 03:24.11 | Cidan | I think I'll just do alch |
| 03:24.15 | Wobwork | I hate doing the nesingwary quests on a nonskinner |
| 03:24.18 | Wobwork | it seems such a waste |
| 03:24.24 | PProvost | mine/herb makes more on my server |
| 03:24.25 | art3mis | heh yeah |
| 03:24.43 | Kaydeethree | meh, I just yelled out in /1, had someone follow me and help kill after I got first tap |
| 03:24.57 | Kaydeethree | win-win |
| 03:26.47 | art3mis | i bet that would make more sense if we were in the other window he started that thought in |
| 03:29.36 | Guillotine | Cidan: didn't work. well, doesn't give that error, but gives another error caused by vista -_- |
| 03:29.43 | Cidan | lulz |
| 03:30.08 | Kaydeethree | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:30.23 | Guillotine | according to other friend theres an environment variable for the header locations (with .net at least) that I may need |
| 03:31.20 | Guillotine | ah and I figured out why SCITE was giving the same error. it uses a GCC if its installed |
| 03:32.50 | Guillotine | time for reinstall test |
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| 03:38.10 | |Jelly| | !c us burning legion carclina |
| 03:38.12 | ThraeBot | |Jelly|: Carclina, Level 70 Undead Warlock (7/43/11). 7581 HP; 8230 Mana; 129 mana regen; 110 spell crit; 50 spell hit; 628 +spell dmg; 4.47% dodge; 10 shadow resist (+10);[[ TBR: 865 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/yo6yew ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/2jfojv ][ Updated: Tue Sep 4 23:49:35 2007 ]] |
| 03:39.06 | Mr_Rabies2 | sounds like i've gotta start lying on my beta applications |
| 03:39.38 | Mr_Rabies2 | well, sure i played daoc, eq, eq2, wow, and ultima online! |
| 03:39.56 | |Jelly| | I did. : / |
| 03:39.57 | Mr_Rabies2 | i also beta tested half of them, amazingly enough! |
| 03:40.06 | |Jelly| | !c us burning legion crumpus |
| 03:40.09 | ThraeBot | |Jelly|: Crumpus, Level 70 Tauren Druid (8/0/53). 7911 HP; 8825 Mana; 338 mana regen; 124 mp5; 3.52% melee crit; 1604 +heal; 2.55% dodge; 18 resilience; 10 nature resist (+10);[[ TBR: 636 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/2fxyxs ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/2wmjkf ][ Updated: Tue Sep 4 23:51:32 2007 ]] |
| 03:40.18 | Mr_Rabies2 | i just need to figure out which actually has stuff |
| 03:40.21 | Mr_Rabies2 | er |
| 03:40.22 | Mr_Rabies2 | had betas |
| 03:40.32 | Mr_Rabies2 | that were more than just insider stuff |
| 03:40.39 | Mr_Rabies2 | !c us llane raybeez |
| 03:40.42 | ThraeBot | Mr_Rabies2: Raybeez, Level 70 Night Elf Druid (1/46/14). 9884 HP; 5345 Mana; 113 mana regen; 5153 Armour; 102.6 Melee DPS; 8.92% melee crit; 8 melee hit; 188 defense; 19.18% dodge; 10 nature resist (+10);[[ TBR: 589 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/ysaqve ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/2nkh3d ][ Updated: Tue Sep 4 23:52:05 2007 ]] |
| 03:41.19 | Mr_Rabies2 | tankygear |
| 03:44.58 | Mr_Rabies2 | oh, i forgot to mention i met some of the wowinsider crew at dragoncon |
| 03:45.21 | Mr_Rabies2 | i think elizabeth and....someone else, forgot her name |
| 03:45.35 | Mr_Rabies2 | she was pretty darn drunk on saturday :X |
| 03:46.20 | cogwheel | Need some people to take some whacks at my ego... http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=1371602689&sid=1 |
| 03:46.22 | cogwheel | :P |
| 03:48.54 | Iriel | cogwheel: You know they dont ACTUALLY let us eat the other posters? |
| 03:50.03 | cogwheel | i ate crepes at blizzcon... does that count? |
| 03:50.21 | Cairenn | there you go cogwheel, ego whacked at |
| 03:50.31 | cogwheel | thanks, love :) |
| 03:50.32 | Kaydeethree | ooh, this I gotta see |
| 03:50.55 | cogwheel | not that interesting, but full of truth :) |
| 03:51.09 | Kaydeethree | shame, I wanted to see an epic smackdown |
| 03:51.12 | Kaydeethree | but indeed |
| 03:51.22 | bleeter | cogwheel: was the only bad thing that sprung to mind, sorry :P |
| 03:52.05 | cogwheel | was waiting for someone to comment on that :P |
| 03:55.27 | Kaydeethree | damn it... I really need to stop listening to game OSTs. |
| 03:55.39 | Kaydeethree | in addition to chrono trigger, I now have a burning desire to play ff7 again |
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| 03:56.54 | Guillotine | anybody know of a vista-compatible free c compiler? |
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| 03:58.46 | Mr_Rabies2 | let's see |
| 03:58.55 | Mr_Rabies2 | how many more alts do i have to post in that thread with |
| 03:59.09 | Iriel | Guillotine: Not GCC? |
| 03:59.36 | Guillotine | Iriel: nope. doesn't work with vista :( |
| 03:59.44 | Guillotine | tried about 4 different versions all with varying errors |
| 03:59.58 | Guillotine | looked up the errors and it occurs on any vista computer |
| 04:00.01 | Guillotine | that isn't hobo version |
| 04:00.05 | Guillotine | as someone so elegantly put it |
| 04:00.46 | Iriel | Annoying, i'm surprised it doesn't work.. Is it a libraries issue? |
| 04:01.40 | Guillotine | one header issue where it can't find headers, another installation problem |
| 04:02.49 | Guillotine | MinGW embeds its location in itself (but not on vista) so it errors out |
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| 04:04.50 | Mr_Rabies2 | okay |
| 04:04.50 | Mr_Rabies2 | i |
| 04:05.04 | Mr_Rabies2 | just posted in that cogwheel thread on all the alts that the forums will let me post on |
| 04:06.45 | bleeter | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:07.52 | Mr_Rabies2 | i hit a brief burst of creativity there, surprisingly :x |
| 04:09.41 | Guillotine | link? |
| 04:12.20 | Mr_Rabies2 | <cogwheel> Need some people to take some whacks at my ego... http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=1371602689&sid=1 |
| 04:12.25 | Mr_Rabies2 | i kinda did |
| 04:20.39 | ScytheBlade1 | lol that's on general |
| 04:20.59 | ScytheBlade1 | rofl @ page two |
| 04:22.46 | ScytheBlade1 | You designed the daze mechanic?! |
| 04:22.49 | ScytheBlade1 | /smack |
| 04:28.40 | ScytheBlade1 | bleeter, er, I can login to the PTR, and select a character, but once I hit the big "Enter World" button, it locks on the loading screen |
| 04:29.19 | ScytheBlade1 | NOOOOOOOO |
| 04:29.20 | ScytheBlade1 | wine: Unhandled division by zero at address 0x7c55fd91 (thread 0009), starting debugger... |
| 04:31.20 | ScytheBlade1 | bleeter, if I disable sound, it works again. current git revision + anti-crash patch. |
| 04:32.21 | Mr_Rabies2 | divide by zero? ohshi- |
| 04:32.55 | ScytheBlade1 | Yeah :/ |
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| 04:47.10 | cogwheel | woot! got my wife in on the cog bashing >< |
| 04:47.14 | Guillotine | lol |
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| 04:48.01 | Guillotine | now I'm in on it :D |
| 04:49.17 | cogwheel | I... I... Just don't know what to say to that... XD |
| 04:49.49 | art3mis | add my 2 cents |
| 04:49.50 | cogwheel | Maybe something to do with "short, pink self" and Dongle... |
| 04:50.38 | Guillotine | ROFL |
| 04:50.57 | art3mis | <-- shal btw ;) |
| 04:51.06 | cogwheel | Guillotine: gg on not turning off your sig :P |
| 04:51.16 | Guillotine | >.> |
| 04:51.18 | Guillotine | fixed |
| 04:51.21 | art3mis | the best aprt of that is that shal doesnt exist any more let alone on that server |
| 04:51.31 | Guillotine | I want this thread to grow to MANY pages |
| 04:51.58 | ScytheBlade1 | l o l o l @ " Cogwheel needs to be Ace'd" |
| 04:52.05 | ScytheBlade1 | That's just horrible |
| 04:52.12 | art3mis | hehe on silvermoon i started a thread bashing theswe 2 random people taht went on for a good 60 pages ;P |
| 04:52.27 | art3mis | <- silvermoons best troll |
| 04:53.29 | Thunder_Child | why are people bashing cogwheel? |
| 04:53.36 | cogwheel | I asked them to :P |
| 04:53.39 | art3mis | cuz its fun |
| 04:53.57 | art3mis | its like bumping into an old lady on icy stairs and watching her try to catch herself |
| 04:53.57 | cogwheel | [20:46]<cogwheel>Need some people to take some whacks at my ego... http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=1371602689&sid=1 |
| 04:54.08 | art3mis | you know you shouldnt but you cant help yourself |
| 04:54.23 | Thunder_Child | ok, lets see if i can win at bashing cogwheel |
| 04:55.12 | cogwheel | whoever's bananalizer, i beat you to it :P |
| 04:55.17 | Guillotine | I saw :( |
| 04:55.37 | Guillotine | theres probably like a total of 4 people on that thread using all their alts |
| 04:56.08 | cogwheel | First page was more diverse... and that was honestly the first time *I* had done so :P |
| 04:57.01 | cogwheel | Thunder_Child: cheater |
| 04:57.13 | Thunder_Child | what..i havent done anything yet |
| 04:57.14 | AnduinLothar | [You] Lay on Hands crit heal [You] *14275* |
| 04:57.30 | Thunder_Child | but i am about to |
| 04:57.34 | cogwheel | mentioning IRC is cheap |
| 04:57.40 | cogwheel | to whoever it was then :P |
| 04:57.42 | Guillotine | cogwheel: thats not TC |
| 04:57.48 | Osagasu | ^.^ |
| 04:57.51 | Osagasu | <--Creek |
| 04:57.52 | art3mis | guillotine |
| 04:57.59 | Guillotine | art3mis: yah? |
| 04:58.03 | art3mis | i just thought i'd mention that i hate you ;P |
| 04:58.11 | art3mis | click through ads are the debil |
| 04:58.26 | Guillotine | lol |
| 04:58.46 | art3mis | hehe i actually removed curse from my bookmarks because of that ;P |
| 04:58.51 | Guillotine | you should have seen cairenn when I asked slouken when he was acing the default ui at blizzcon |
| 04:58.59 | Guillotine | oh, about that |
| 04:59.02 | Guillotine | what click through ads? |
| 04:59.17 | Thunder_Child | ok cogwheel...thats #1 |
| 04:59.22 | Thunder_Child | couldnt help myself >< |
| 04:59.22 | art3mis | when you select addons while browse you get those full page pause ads that you have to click to continue |
| 04:59.26 | art3mis | on curse |
| 04:59.42 | Guillotine | oh. Greasemonkey ftw >.> I don't even see those |
| 04:59.57 | Guillotine | hide both those and the intellitxt ad things via greasemonkey |
| 05:00.26 | Guillotine | do they really appear that often though? |
| 05:01.05 | art3mis | enough that i despise the site yeah ;P |
| 05:01.13 | art3mis | i understand thier reason |
| 05:01.19 | art3mis | but i refuse to support that shit |
| 05:01.24 | art3mis | i HATE full page ads |
| 05:01.32 | art3mis | ;) |
| 05:01.33 | cogwheel | Thunder_Child: :O |
| 05:01.34 | Guillotine | me too |
| 05:01.47 | art3mis | so punch whoever did that in the neck and tell em its from me ;P |
| 05:01.52 | cogwheel | moo... chatzilla needs a new icon for : O |
| 05:01.56 | Guillotine | I'll slap the people that make the real decisions around about that |
| 05:01.57 | cogwheel | looks too happy |
| 05:02.06 | Thunder_Child | cogwheel, what can i say my mind is in the gutter...that was the firs thing that poped up |
| 05:02.16 | art3mis | i mean its bad enough that 60% of the screen is devoted to adservs |
| 05:02.20 | art3mis | heh |
| 05:02.27 | cogwheel | Well, it *is* gnome mating season after all |
| 05:02.42 | Thunder_Child | ahhhhhhhh...mental image mental image |
| 05:02.44 | Guillotine | but yah, it gets REALLY expensive hosting that many files for that many people |
| 05:02.52 | Guillotine | especially when so many just hide the ads via scripts |
| 05:03.15 | cogwheel | Thunder_Child: http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=1371542196 |
| 05:03.49 | Guillotine | TC: that is HORRIBLE |
| 05:04.11 | Thunder_Child | yea, but knowing his wife has a good sense of humor makes it ok |
| 05:04.19 | Thunder_Child | ish |
| 05:04.28 | Guillotine | yah, but you have to hope it doesn't get reported :P |
| 05:04.43 | Thunder_Child | worth it |
| 05:05.05 | Thunder_Child | besides i'll have all these nice people to go to bat for me |
| 05:05.51 | art3mis | enough penis talk geez! |
| 05:05.54 | art3mis | ;) |
| 05:06.10 | Thunder_Child | no one said anything about penises |
| 05:07.17 | ScytheBlade1 | Someone just did. |
| 05:07.20 | Thunder_Child | what happenes if you delete a char that was used to post on the forum? |
| 05:08.09 | Guillotine | nothing |
| 05:08.44 | Thunder_Child | ok |
| 05:09.03 | art3mis | whos lackluster btw? |
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| 05:11.04 | cogwheel | haha! <3 my wife |
| 05:11.10 | AnduinLothar | good thing |
| 05:11.56 | ScytheBlade1 | Can anyone login to the PvE PTR to give my druid a ginvite? |
| 05:12.33 | ckknight | cogwheel: how come? |
| 05:12.33 | art3mis | Since we're on the subject of world war comparison, saying the horde shouldn't be part of dalaran for what their race did is like saying we should never allow germans in america for what they did in WW2. |
| 05:12.38 | art3mis | okay that line makes no sense |
| 05:12.57 | Thunder_Child | ckknight, how come he loves his wife? |
| 05:13.03 | cogwheel | ckknight: <cogwheel>[20:46] <cogwheel> Need some people to take some whacks at my ego... http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=1371602689&sid=1 |
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| 05:14.48 | Thunder_Child | gnomes...Hairstute horny humping hormonal humanoids /sigh |
| 05:16.15 | Chaoslux | lol, liar, gnomes are evil, gnomes are all but humanoid |
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| 05:16.56 | cogwheel | Chaoslux: there was context there but i'll wait a while before linking it again so people don't think i'm spamming :P |
| 05:17.17 | Chaoslux | oh, so i just came at wrong time? XD |
| 05:18.01 | Chaoslux | i bet a warlock with enough experience in demonology should be able to summon Gnomes... like as the last talent for WOTLK |
| 05:19.05 | cogwheel | hehe... like those funny tribal ones from the outland? |
| 05:19.22 | Chaoslux | something like that |
| 05:19.38 | Thunder_Child | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=1371602689&sid=1&pageNo=1 |
| 05:19.43 | Thunder_Child | Chaoslux |
| 05:19.50 | Thunder_Child | thats the spaming addy |
| 05:20.50 | Chaoslux | o.o kk |
| 05:24.04 | cogwheel | hey Esamynn |
| 05:24.25 | Esamynn | oh noes, I've been spotted! |
| 05:24.32 | Esamynn | hey cogwheel |
| 05:25.00 | art3mis | hah those rtibal gnomes are the funniest quest in all of outland |
| 05:25.36 | cogwheel | i didn't even feel bad about killing them. |
| 05:26.15 | cogwheel | wtf? did i just end a sentence with a period on IRC? |
| 05:26.25 | ScytheBlade1 | And a question mark! |
| 05:26.56 | cogwheel | question mark is ok imo... or ellipsis... or exclamation mark... imo of course |
| 05:26.59 | cogwheel | imo |
| 05:27.16 | cogwheel | <3 ellipses |
| 05:28.25 | Guillotine | I hate ellipses... |
| 05:28.29 | cogwheel | ... |
| 05:28.32 | cogwheel | … |
| 05:28.36 | Guillotine | jk... |
| 05:28.38 | Guillotine | I love them... |
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| 05:29.04 | Chaoslux | 4(14014:14264:14184) 4/0cogwheel4\ wtf? did i just end a sentence with a period on IRC? <-- im still laughing at that line o.o |
| 05:29.41 | Chaoslux | I'm def saving it somewhere ;p |
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| 05:30.50 | art3mis | wait a sec |
| 05:30.55 | cogwheel | bash.org imo :P |
| 05:30.57 | art3mis | you never watch brisco county jr? |
| 05:31.02 | Tierrie | bash bash |
| 05:31.06 | Tierrie | hi folks |
| 05:31.15 | cogwheel | 'ello |
| 05:31.22 | cogwheel | I never watch a lot of things... |
| 05:31.24 | cogwheel | too much WoW |
| 05:31.26 | art3mis | i demand you go buy download or netflix the series right this instant |
| 05:31.33 | art3mis | it was from the mid 90s |
| 05:31.47 | art3mis | bruce campbells tv show |
| 05:31.53 | art3mis | it had buddy from night court! |
| 05:32.00 | cogwheel | ooooh! |
| 05:32.01 | art3mis | professor gangreene from return of the killer tomatoes |
| 05:32.06 | art3mis | the original gomez adams! |
| 05:32.15 | art3mis | it was awesome! |
| 05:32.19 | cogwheel | I told my wife "bruce campbell on TV" and it's now on our netflix list :P |
| 05:32.43 | cogwheel | top o' the queue now |
| 05:32.43 | Thunder_Child | jack of all trades? |
| 05:33.06 | art3mis | good |
| 05:33.13 | cogwheel | Thunder_Child: that's a phrase that should be proofread very carefully before hitting enter, fyi |
| 05:33.18 | art3mis | its a wicked show |
| 05:33.30 | Thunder_Child | "jack of all trades?" |
| 05:33.32 | Thunder_Child | better? |
| 05:33.40 | art3mis | its a bout a cowboy and his partner back in the wild west with a crazy inventor that makes rockets and shit |
| 05:33.40 | cogwheel | no, you got it right... |
| 05:33.44 | cogwheel | was just warning you |
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| 05:34.00 | art3mis | jack off all trades |
| 05:34.01 | Chaoslux | cogwheel: Meh, i prefer keeping a list of quotes on my computer better than posting some on bash :/ |
| 05:34.02 | art3mis | ;) |
| 05:35.06 | art3mis | red dwarf are currently taking up my queue for the next little bit |
| 05:35.13 | art3mis | is |
| 05:35.14 | art3mis | are |
| 05:35.21 | Thunder_Child | at least his other show hit 2 seasons |
| 05:35.36 | art3mis | which? |
| 05:36.00 | Thunder_Child | http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0220906/ |
| 05:36.07 | art3mis | they made another bubba hotep too |
| 05:36.10 | Thunder_Child | those i have |
| 05:36.49 | Thunder_Child | and what i am waiting for is the next in the evil dead/army of darkness series |
| 05:37.51 | art3mis | i dunno if itll be any good |
| 05:37.56 | art3mis | sam raimi seems to ahve lost it |
| 05:38.07 | art3mis | that magical touch that a budget corrupts |
| 05:38.22 | Thunder_Child | all we can do is wait and see |
| 05:39.07 | Tierrie | i don't want to go to work tomorrow :P |
| 05:39.29 | Tierrie | i kinda of wish a meteor would land in my backyards |
| 05:39.33 | AnduinLothar | so, I have a delema |
| 05:39.36 | Tierrie | and we'd have to spend the next 5 years fighting aliens |
| 05:39.44 | Tierrie | dilemma? |
| 05:39.51 | cogwheel | AnduinLothar: GetRandomArgument(), imo |
| 05:40.27 | Tierrie | GetRandomNumber() do return 18; end // number randomly determined by d20 die roll |
| 05:41.38 | art3mis | AnduinLothar: push her down the stairs accidently, then you can save the cost of an abortion AND you dont have to appear to be a jerk for suggesting it |
| 05:41.59 | Tierrie | get rid of the stairs as she's walking down it! |
| 05:42.05 | Tierrie | that way it will look like an accident |
| 05:42.25 | art3mis | introduce the new "coathanger" martial aid? |
| 05:42.41 | Tierrie | what is the dilemma anyone know yet? |
| 05:43.08 | art3mis | it may have been a spelling problem |
| 05:43.15 | art3mis | or he meant diploma |
| 05:43.42 | Tierrie | he could have eczema |
| 05:48.19 | AnduinLothar | my ret gear is all epcis. My Healing gear and Tank gear are about 3 or 4 pieces short each. I'm currently pvp spec, but I'm usually ret, and I have been prot and holy extensively as well. Our guild's 25mans have been falling apart for the past month or 2. I've done KZ 10 million times, but still have 2 ret dreps, 2 holy dreps and 4 prot dreps i could use from kz. The guild has no dkp and is basically just rolling on drops. but |
| 05:48.50 | AnduinLothar | did that get truncated? |
| 05:50.32 | AnduinLothar | i've been with the guild for like 2 years |
| 05:50.42 | Laric | drops. but was the the end of it |
| 05:50.57 | AnduinLothar | no... |
| 05:51.08 | AnduinLothar | ...but then if a healign item drops and a 'full time' healer needs it they basicly give it to him, even if i want it. same with prot. So the only healing and prot items i get are defaulted. but we keep inviting people to the guild, so there's always someone new that needs the items I want.... and I raid a lot, enough to be hardcore, even tho the guild is only casual raiders. |
| 05:51.55 | AnduinLothar | how nice of it to truncate at after a period |
| 05:52.19 | Tem|work | so, you're pissed because you thin you deserve more items than you're getting |
| 05:52.23 | Tem|work | my opinion is QQ |
| 05:52.32 | AnduinLothar | well, right. |
| 05:52.36 | Tem|work | you get the items that matter to your spec |
| 05:52.39 | Tem|work | quit bitching |
| 05:53.04 | AnduinLothar | ok, so it doesn't matter that i respec at will, heal when they need healers and tank when we're short a tank? |
| 05:55.01 | cogwheel | AnduinLothar: i know your pain... |
| 05:55.48 | AnduinLothar | if we were progressing it'd be ok |
| 05:55.59 | AnduinLothar | cause i could just replace gear and wait for defaults |
| 05:56.05 | cogwheel | I remember seeing something about them hoping to ease it a bit, but who knows when that'll be... |
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| 05:59.31 | art3mis | http://www.funtechtalk.com/man-shoots-girlfriends-computer-after-installing-windows-vista/ |
| 06:00.40 | AnduinLothar | but we're not progressing, so basically i have a limited number of items i can possibly get and can essentially only get the defaulted. So, while most of the rest of the guild is levelign an alt, I'm gearing up my off specs so i can raid as any spec. |
| 06:01.00 | art3mis | so tell em flat out |
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| 06:01.07 | Shirik | If you're gonna mess with the king's queens, you better watch your ace, jack. |
| 06:01.11 | art3mis | we either grow and do new shit, i get my stuff or i split |
| 06:01.11 | Shirik | oh wow |
| 06:01.17 | Shirik | totally off topic as I realize I need to scroll down |
| 06:01.21 | Shirik | dodod |
| 06:01.41 | art3mis | i rather doubt that if you've been there that long with all the stuff you do have would welcome you into most other guilds ;P |
| 06:02.28 | AnduinLothar | right, and if these weren't friends i owuld just do that, cause it woul dbe better for me |
| 06:03.25 | AnduinLothar | plus my arena grps are guildies. it'd be kidna aqward... |
| 06:05.01 | ScytheBlade1 | Anyone on who can ginvite to the PTR alliance guild? |
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| 06:06.57 | art3mis | so tell em |
| 06:07.27 | art3mis | it seems retarded for you to go to instances over and over and over again and never get anything |
| 06:10.32 | AnduinLothar | just afaid i'll egt the tem response |
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| 06:13.15 | Tem|sleep | if you aren't progressing, and you aren't emotionally attached to the guild, you should consider finding a guild that is progessing |
| 06:13.29 | cogwheel | [23:02]<AnduinLothar>right, and if these weren't friends i owuld just do that, cause it woul dbe better for me |
| 06:13.49 | cogwheel | seems to fill "emotionally attached" :P |
| 06:26.53 | AnduinLothar | i've been playing with these guys logner than i've been with my gf |
| 06:27.25 | sag_ich_nicht | AnduinLothar: relational DKP, use it! |
| 06:28.50 | AnduinLothar | we had a system similar to dkp before TBC |
| 06:29.45 | AnduinLothar | but because it involved a consensus of officers based on activity points it fell apart when there weren't enough officers to do it for the 10 mans |
| 06:29.46 | sag_ich_nicht | AnduinLothar doesn't use DKP per se |
| 06:29.53 | Wobwork | relational DKP? "You stuck with me when I broke up with Linda and bought me beer, so that's 50 DKP..."? |
| 06:29.59 | sag_ich_nicht | no |
| 06:30.08 | sag_ich_nicht | 3 values |
| 06:30.33 | sag_ich_nicht | DKP, GP(gear points), p(priority) |
| 06:31.24 | AnduinLothar | guess i should just look and see what other guilds are viable to move too |
| 06:31.40 | AnduinLothar | not a big pool to choose from |
| 06:37.11 | Tierrie | you're just going through what everyone else does |
| 06:37.20 | Tierrie | "is the grass indeed, greener on the other side?" |
| 06:39.28 | sag_ich_nicht | gah |
| 06:39.38 | sag_ich_nicht | had to quickly afk and couldn't finish my sentence |
| 06:39.45 | sag_ich_nicht | you get DKP for each kill, and GP for each item you get |
| 06:39.54 | sag_ich_nicht | you don't spend the DKP |
| 06:40.11 | sag_ich_nicht | item priority is decided by p(priority), calculated by DKP/GP |
| 06:40.54 | sag_ich_nicht | you get insanely high DKP values over time of course, but it doesn't really matter |
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| 06:42.10 | sag_ich_nicht | of course |
| 06:42.14 | sag_ich_nicht | there is also this: http://code.google.com/p/epgp/wiki/WhatIsEPGP_v2 |
| 06:42.39 | sag_ich_nicht | but EPGP is too complicated imho(altho theoretically better than rDKP... but rDKP has a khaos interface! :O) |
| 06:42.46 | sag_ich_nicht | (you hear that AnduinLothar ? :P) |
| 06:43.04 | AnduinLothar | yeah, but i dunno if i can get it implimented |
| 06:43.14 | AnduinLothar | not boing an officer or class captain |
| 06:43.18 | AnduinLothar | being* |
| 06:43.46 | Tierrie | if you are indeed a good player, and not just self induced delusions of grandeur, you should go to a top guild |
| 06:43.56 | Tierrie | of course, you must be willing to give up your life |
| 06:44.02 | Wobwork | s'true =( |
| 06:44.19 | Tierrie | as a modder and if you have good creds it should not be hard to get into a second tier guild |
| 06:44.22 | AnduinLothar | i just want one that's progressing thorugh ssc and the eye... |
| 06:44.35 | Tierrie | oh then you're just aiming at the third tier |
| 06:44.39 | Tierrie | should not be hard at all |
| 06:44.49 | Tierrie | this is what how i classify guilds |
| 06:44.55 | Tierrie | tier 1: death and taxes and all of europe |
| 06:45.02 | Tierrie | tier 2: people who are now in bt |
| 06:45.08 | sag_ich_nicht | lol |
| 06:45.09 | Wobwork | hehe |
| 06:45.11 | Tierrie | tier 3: yahoo we just got to bt yesterday |
| 06:45.12 | sag_ich_nicht | europe isn't that crazy about raiding |
| 06:45.15 | Tierrie | dude |
| 06:45.21 | Wobwork | they really are |
| 06:45.29 | sag_ich_nicht | no, fuck you :( |
| 06:45.31 | Wobwork | they're like the Koreans of WoW |
| 06:45.34 | bleeter | ScytheBlade1: you're on gentoo, right? check your use flags that you haven't optinised the crap outta it ;) :P |
| 06:45.37 | Tierrie | http://www.wowjutsu.com/world/ |
| 06:45.39 | sag_ich_nicht | still don't have a gruul raid |
| 06:45.43 | sag_ich_nicht | nor mag |
| 06:45.48 | sag_ich_nicht | and kara is dead too atm |
| 06:45.48 | sag_ich_nicht | >< |
| 06:45.51 | Tierrie | ranking 1-10 |
| 06:46.01 | Tierrie | Europe, Europe, Europe, Europe, Europe, Europe, Europe, Europe, Death and Taxes, Europe, Europe, Europe |
| 06:46.14 | sag_ich_nicht | also |
| 06:46.27 | sag_ich_nicht | AnduinLothar you could like, you know, suggest it to your GM/officers/whatever |
| 06:46.30 | zenzelezz | a player has 32 buff slots, right? |
| 06:46.32 | sag_ich_nicht | or just make your own guild |
| 06:46.40 | Tierrie | you can't make mods and run a guild |
| 06:46.43 | Tierrie | you just don't have a time |
| 06:46.50 | Wobwork | That's true too |
| 06:47.00 | AnduinLothar | dont want to run it |
| 06:47.09 | Wobwork | My GM wants me to write mods for him |
| 06:47.14 | Wobwork | but he can't pay me enough to bother =P |
| 06:47.19 | Tierrie | if you're not in a top tier guild, tell him to suck it |
| 06:47.29 | Tierrie | and by top tier I mean either 1 or 2 |
| 06:47.33 | Tierrie | my definitions of course |
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| 06:50.14 | sag_ich_nicht | AnduinLothar well then the suggestion of a change to the lot system because you are unhappy is the solution :P |
| 06:50.20 | sag_ich_nicht | btw. |
| 06:50.27 | Tierrie | he's not an officer or the gm |
| 06:50.33 | Tierrie | his suggestions will just make him look like a lootwhore |
| 06:50.46 | sag_ich_nicht | ah |
| 06:50.50 | sag_ich_nicht | now i know why US raiding sucks |
| 06:50.58 | Tierrie | yes |
| 06:51.19 | sag_ich_nicht | because you are too much about bureaucracy |
| 06:51.21 | Tierrie | americans has more of a "me" mentality |
| 06:51.24 | sag_ich_nicht | no |
| 06:51.27 | sag_ich_nicht | because you are too much about bureaucracy |
| 06:51.36 | Tierrie | no |
| 06:51.41 | Tierrie | your face! |
| 06:51.53 | Tierrie | just kidding |
| 06:51.56 | sag_ich_nicht | OH NOEZ HE IZ NOT AN OFFICER BUT HE HAS BEEN PLAYING THE GAME SINCE THE US BETA AND DEVELOPED ADDONS FOR IT SINCE LIKE FUCKING FOREVER HIS ARGUMENTS ARE COMPLETLY INVALID |
| 06:52.12 | Tierrie | you forgot a LOL somewhere in there |
| 06:52.20 | Tierrie | but that is pretty accurate |
| 06:52.30 | sag_ich_nicht | if something sucks in your guild, you tell it your fucking guildleader |
| 06:52.45 | sag_ich_nicht | and you do it in /g |
| 06:52.49 | sag_ich_nicht | so everyone can see that you are unhappy |
| 06:53.04 | Tierrie | then they just think you're causing trouble |
| 06:53.07 | Tierrie | and being selfish |
| 06:53.11 | AnduinLothar | no one cares that i write mods in my guild. i just get occational "hey, that's nifty"'s |
| 06:53.12 | Tierrie | i would love to play in asia |
| 06:53.16 | norgs | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:53.29 | norgs | cause guilds love drama |
| 06:54.12 | norgs | *then |
| 06:54.12 | sag_ich_nicht | WoW is all about selfishness, and a better DKP system that's actually fair isn't egoistic, it benefits everyone |
| 06:54.42 | norgs | nope... perfect DKP system is one that is hated equally by all |
| 06:54.55 | bleeter | qft |
| 06:54.59 | MoonWolf | clearly the only reason you would want a new loot system is because YOU would get more loot under it. |
| 06:55.06 | sag_ich_nicht | norgs, shut up and look at rDKP and/or EPGP |
| 06:55.12 | norgs | if you got people saying xyz is a good DKP system, likelyhood is that it's not really |
| 06:55.19 | sag_ich_nicht | yeah |
| 06:55.28 | sag_ich_nicht | that's the reason the raiding in US sucks. |
| 06:55.39 | MoonWolf | its not perfect but as long as my guild is the size it is, suicidekings works for us. |
| 06:55.40 | sag_ich_nicht | you're all fucking paranoid |
| 06:55.50 | bleeter | it's the ol' anti-communist thing ;) |
| 06:56.07 | bleeter | OMGTHEYWANTITTOBEREASONABLYFAIRANDEVEN.... COMMIEE!!!! |
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| 06:57.51 | sag_ich_nicht | you just go /g Guildleadername: i'm unhappy with our current raid progression, and our current lootsystem is a joke. either you put some change in there or i'll probably /gquit soon. |
| 06:57.56 | sag_ich_nicht | you are unhappy, you tell it |
| 06:57.59 | sag_ich_nicht | so what if you're egoistic? |
| 06:58.01 | sag_ich_nicht | everyone is |
| 06:58.04 | sag_ich_nicht | no reason to hide it |
| 06:58.56 | sag_ich_nicht | !vs eu gul'dan ruknor us kil'jaeden wraithhammer |
| 06:58.56 | ThraeBot | sag_ich_nicht: Ruknor vs Wraithhammer! Two 70 paladins square off!; 0/8/53 vs 12/32/17; Wraithhammer wins by 318 TBRs! |
| 06:59.01 | sag_ich_nicht | :( |
| 06:59.11 | MoonWolf | however if you cannot make a suggestion on how to improve it yourself |
| 06:59.16 | MoonWolf | shut the hell up. |
| 06:59.19 | MoonWolf | imho |
| 07:00.04 | MoonWolf | unless you like the wow forums |
| 07:00.06 | MoonWolf | in that case |
| 07:00.12 | MoonWolf | get the athmosphere going. |
| 07:00.18 | sag_ich_nicht | MoonWolf: that is the thing the guild leader should do |
| 07:00.19 | sag_ich_nicht | you know |
| 07:00.19 | sag_ich_nicht | LEAD |
| 07:00.24 | zenzelezz | sag is just trolling as always |
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| 07:00.38 | sag_ich_nicht | also, then you can just suggest a new loot system |
| 07:00.44 | sag_ich_nicht | zenzelezz no, for once, i'm not |
| 07:00.46 | sag_ich_nicht | i'm serious |
| 07:00.50 | MoonWolf | no its not his job, his job is to keep a guild running, if YOU have a problem, YOU can think of a solution, is a good one, maybe not. |
| 07:00.58 | MoonWolf | but at least your trying to HELP |
| 07:01.22 | MoonWolf | simply going, this sucks, change or i leave. is very negative and no incentive for anyone else to be constructive |
| 07:01.22 | sag_ich_nicht | MoonWolf: so if you /gquit, the guild runs worse. |
| 07:01.27 | sag_ich_nicht | ~wiki leader |
| 07:01.27 | MoonWolf | and it all goes down hill from there. |
| 07:01.44 | sag_ich_nicht | ~wiki leadership |
| 07:01.57 | sag_ich_nicht | damn you, purl |
| 07:02.01 | sag_ich_nicht | ~~~~ |
| 07:02.02 | purl | ARGH!!! STOP IT sag_ich_nicht!!! |
| 07:02.09 | sag_ich_nicht | that's what you get for |
| 07:02.15 | MoonWolf | purl, botsnack |
| 07:02.15 | purl | aw, gee, MoonWolf |
| 07:02.44 | sag_ich_nicht | MoonWolf: well, the next line after that message would obviously be improvement suggestions |
| 07:06.04 | sag_ich_nicht | bleeter no |
| 07:06.08 | sag_ich_nicht | i'm a socialist |
| 07:06.10 | sag_ich_nicht | *GASP* |
| 07:06.35 | bleeter | I'm blind! There's no difference! |
| 07:06.57 | sag_ich_nicht | actually, democratic socialist |
| 07:07.04 | sag_ich_nicht | ~wiki Democratic socialism |
| 07:07.12 | bleeter | ah, and admitted hypocritical commie |
| 07:07.15 | bleeter | *an |
| 07:07.20 | sag_ich_nicht | no, not really |
| 07:07.24 | sag_ich_nicht | communism can't work |
| 07:07.46 | zenzelezz | call it whatever you want, democratic socialism is common and works |
| 07:08.05 | bleeter | yes it can, look at communist china! |
| 07:08.06 | sag_ich_nicht | well |
| 07:08.19 | _art3mis | QUEEG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
| 07:08.24 | sag_ich_nicht | actually, i'm lying, because wikipedia lied to me |
| 07:08.26 | sag_ich_nicht | what i meant was |
| 07:08.29 | sag_ich_nicht | ~wiki Social democracy |
| 07:08.30 | sag_ich_nicht | :) |
| 07:08.35 | zenzelezz | you place China in the "democractic" category? I just lost all respect for you |
| 07:08.45 | bleeter | WIKIPEDIA LIE‽ NEVAH! |
| 07:08.51 | _art3mis | ~wiki Twisted Sister |
| 07:09.20 | bleeter | ~wiki Gnome Breeding Season |
| 07:09.31 | bleeter | told ya wikipedia was useless |
| 07:09.46 | sag_ich_nicht | i have my deep thunder |
| 07:09.50 | sag_ich_nicht | gnomes run when they see it |
| 07:09.57 | sag_ich_nicht | i am safe, for the moment. |
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| 07:55.29 | Nom- | Sunwell Plateau - A high-level 25-player instance located north of Silvermoon City |
| 07:55.32 | Nom- | oooooer |
| 07:57.11 | Kalroth | Aye, it was a announced a while back |
| 07:57.46 | Thunder_Child | indeed...unintentionaly announce at blizcon |
| 08:03.19 | zenzelezz | OR WAS IT!? *cue conspiracy music* |
| 08:04.22 | Thunder_Child | yes it was |
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| 08:56.12 | Corrodias | interesting |
| 08:57.13 | Corrodias | i thought macros aren't supposed to continue past spellcasts that fail, but maybe i was thinking only of castsequences |
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| 10:11.30 | sag_ich_nicht | Corrodias are you confusing failed with misses? :P |
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| 10:31.49 | Wraanger | heyaz |
| 10:31.54 | grephead | ello :) |
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| 10:40.14 | grephead | Just to double check, if I write a mod that is just slash commands (macros that are over 255 chars), I can then assign a button and just use the slash cmd right? ie /smite? |
| 10:48.24 | zenzelezz | not sure what you mean, put the slash command in a macro and put the macro on an actionbar button? |
| 10:49.17 | zenzelezz | or are you talking about keybindings? |
| 10:53.11 | bleeter | Think they mean they want to write a > 255 char macro, by writing it into a mod file and triggering it via a / command |
| 10:53.40 | bleeter | pretty sure the 'writing it into a mod' bit that the OP means there is by just typing the macro into the .lua file, which won't work. |
| 10:55.41 | zenzelezz | yeah, but there's a difference depending on how he wants to call the function... if he only wants a keybind he wouldn't need a slash command as far as I remember |
| 10:55.45 | grephead | bleeter: bah, ok. |
| 10:56.10 | grephead | basically I want to replace a > 255 char macro with a /cmd |
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| 10:56.33 | grephead | and then be able to stick the /cmd into a macro and stick it on a hotbar. |
| 10:56.52 | zenzelezz | depends greatly on what you want to do in the macro, a lot of it is locked down in lua |
| 10:57.36 | zenzelezz | I'm not very good with macros though, maybe someone else will have an idea if you stick around a bit until the place wakes up =) |
| 10:57.59 | grephead | hehe ok |
| 11:08.19 | grephead | for instance: http://wow.pastey.net/73427 |
| 11:08.28 | grephead | which is 288 chars. |
| 11:13.42 | Wraanger | how can be font changed in QuestWatchFrame ? |
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| 11:33.04 | zenzelezz | grephead: two things you can change as far as I know -- you can skip the # show when it's the same as # showtooltip |
| 11:33.12 | zenzelezz | and you can replace /script with /run |
| 11:33.19 | zenzelezz | but don't think that makes it small enough still |
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| 11:39.32 | sag_ich_nicht | bleeter |
| 11:39.45 | bleeter | wot |
| 11:39.49 | sag_ich_nicht | there a new fmod dll build on the PTR yet? :P |
| 11:40.31 | bleeter | dun really care, I got sound, I got no crash on exit :P |
| 11:40.50 | bleeter | no new PTR, if that's yer question ;) |
| 11:41.29 | grephead | zenzelezz: hmmm but with that and removing some other spaces, I think it may work: http://wow.pastey.net/73429 |
| 11:42.31 | grephead | I'd still like to turn the macros into a UI mod that I can call with /cmd though :/ |
| 11:43.24 | sag_ich_nicht | bleeter well there were a few pushes last week iirc |
| 11:43.45 | sag_ich_nicht | bleeter: it still bugs vista(and probably xp rarely too) tho :P |
| 11:44.49 | Wobin | norgs: Could there be some indication of completeness with AucAdv scanning? |
| 11:59.21 | zenzelezz | grephead: yeah, I know what you mean, but things like movement, targetting and casting is very locked down from lua now, and can only be accomplished (if at all) in fairly advanced ways |
| 12:08.15 | |FF|Im2good4u | can someone plz help me :P |
| 12:08.32 | |FF|Im2good4u | b:SetTextFontObject("GameFontHighlight") |
| 12:08.32 | |FF|Im2good4u | b:GetTextFontObject():SetJustifyH("LEFT") |
| 12:08.35 | zenzelezz | you've been here long enough to know not to ask to ask |
| 12:09.02 | |FF|Im2good4u | now wut happents is that everything whit "GameFontHighlight" is justifyed to the left >.< |
| 12:09.22 | zenzelezz | because you're telling that whole font object to be left-aligned |
| 12:09.29 | |FF|Im2good4u | sorry i was just wondering if there was anyone alive ;P |
| 12:09.31 | zenzelezz | you should call it on just the fontstring or something |
| 12:09.47 | norgs | Wobin: There could be indeed :) |
| 12:10.13 | zenzelezz | |FF|Im2good4u: what object type is "b"? |
| 12:10.31 | |FF|Im2good4u | button |
| 12:11.06 | norgs | Wobin: I'm gonna get bleeter to do it when he finishes his assignment on friday :) (and after he does the scan button) |
| 12:12.03 | |FF|Im2good4u | b:SetJustifyH("LEFT") gives an error |
| 12:12.21 | zenzelezz | most likely yes, since it's not a fontstring |
| 12:13.51 | zenzelezz | |FF|Im2good4u: try b:GetFontString():SetJustifyH("LEFT"); |
| 12:13.52 | Wobin | norgs: woot =) |
| 12:14.22 | Wobin | also, a suggestion, to have the "number in stack" to default (maybe optionally) to the actual size of the stack available |
| 12:15.20 | norgs | i would hesitate to do that, but i might be convinced to get the default number to be all full stacks plus remainder |
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| 12:17.50 | zenzelezz | |FF|Im2good4u: any luck? |
| 12:18.04 | |FF|Im2good4u | nope b:GetFontString() returns a nil |
| 12:19.06 | |FF|Im2good4u | http://wowi.pastey.net/73430 <- here is how i created the button |
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| 12:20.58 | JoshBorke | you have to put a FontString object on your button |
| 12:21.01 | JoshBorke | it won't exist by default |
| 12:22.25 | zenzelezz | and without it you can't justify the text (apart from by altering the global font object)? |
| 12:25.40 | Wobin | norgs: Which would result in, if you have less than one stack, only returning say 13 |
| 12:25.59 | norgs | yes |
| 12:26.02 | Wobin | ^^ |
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| 12:29.28 | |FF|Im2good4u | b:SetText("") |
| 12:29.28 | |FF|Im2good4u | b:GetFontString():SetJustifyH("LEFT") |
| 12:29.49 | |FF|Im2good4u | oops well that doesnt give an error but doesnt seem to justify either :P |
| 12:41.37 | JoshBorke | how can you tell if there is no text? o.O |
| 12:43.38 | |FF|Im2good4u | becase there is text dded further down in a different function |
| 12:48.18 | |FF|Im2good4u | sorry i dont get it ( http://wowi.pastey.net/73432 ) it still doesnt justify its still centered |
| 12:48.55 | JoshBorke | |FF|Im2good4u: that won't work because you don't SetTextFontObject on a button, you do it to a FontString |
| 12:49.14 | JoshBorke | |FF|Im2good4u: buttons inherited from Blizzard frames act differently than buttons you create yourself |
| 12:50.20 | JoshBorke | |FF|Im2good4u: http://wowi.pastey.net/73433 something like that |
| 12:50.23 | |FF|Im2good4u | pff this stuff is confuseh :P why cant a button just hav a text parameter and display it ;P |
| 12:50.35 | zenzelezz | because this isn't Visual Basic |
| 12:50.45 | JoshBorke | no one holds your hand here |
| 12:51.01 | JoshBorke | i still don't understand why UIPanelButtonTemplate behaves the way it does, but whatever |
| 12:53.38 | sag_ich_nicht | |FF|Im2good4u because the text is an object an you want to change the text, not the button, the text is just on/in the button |
| 12:54.05 | sag_ich_nicht | otherwise you couldn't justify the text at all |
| 12:54.24 | sag_ich_nicht | unless you give the button another parameter and another and another and then it just gets all very confusing to write |
| 12:54.38 | |FF|Im2good4u | the thing is i believe i all but then why does b:SetText("LoL") workd if its the button not the text >.< |
| 12:54.48 | JoshBorke | you're confusing sagst_du_nicht |
| 12:54.58 | sag_ich_nicht | o rly |
| 12:55.03 | sag_ich_nicht | am not |
| 12:55.07 | sag_ich_nicht | he is the confused one |
| 12:55.18 | JoshBorke | because you'rec onfusing him! |
| 12:55.18 | JoshBorke | :-P |
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| 12:56.00 | sag_ich_nicht | wtf is so hard about it, you have button, it contains a string, the string containst text, you want to manipulate the text, so you manipulate the string, not the button oO |
| 12:56.19 | JoshBorke | lol |
| 12:56.28 | sag_ich_nicht | that's just basic programming you don't even have to know lua to know that >< |
| 12:57.17 | bleeter | but the string's a graphic on the screen, just like a button's a graphic on the screen! WAAAA! |
| 12:58.07 | sag_ich_nicht | no it's not >< |
| 12:58.13 | sag_ich_nicht | OBJECTS geez |
| 12:58.25 | sag_ich_nicht | he would die on object oriented programming, wouldn't he? >< |
| 12:58.25 | bleeter | it's a pikcha |
| 12:58.29 | bleeter | made of pixels |
| 12:58.32 | bleeter | it's a graphic |
| 12:58.43 | sag_ich_nicht | it's DATA |
| 12:58.51 | sag_ich_nicht | everything is data, everything is a variable |
| 12:58.52 | bleeter | now yer just getting technical |
| 12:58.54 | sag_ich_nicht | even YOU |
| 12:59.11 | sag_ich_nicht | actually |
| 12:59.11 | sag_ich_nicht | i lied |
| 12:59.15 | sag_ich_nicht | not everything is a variable |
| 12:59.19 | sag_ich_nicht | everything is information :P |
| 12:59.55 | bleeter | isn't |
| 13:00.03 | sag_ich_nicht | is |
| 13:00.10 | sag_ich_nicht | name me something that isn't information |
| 13:00.11 | bleeter | isn't isn't isn't isn't |
| 13:00.17 | sag_ich_nicht | name me something that isn't information |
| 13:00.23 | bleeter | anything past the event horizon of a black hole :P |
| 13:00.30 | sag_ich_nicht | hawking radiation. |
| 13:00.32 | sag_ich_nicht | pwnt |
| 13:01.24 | bleeter | tis only a theory |
| 13:01.54 | JoshBorke | lol |
| 13:01.58 | JoshBorke | he pwned you bleeter |
| 13:02.19 | sag_ich_nicht | "it's only a theory" my ass, you think of something better :P |
| 13:03.15 | bleeter | my brain tends to go into meltdown when I think of higher frequencies than the inverse plank time foo |
| 13:03.37 | JoshBorke | my brain goes to mush when i think of pi |
| 13:03.53 | bleeter | Unruh effect! There we go! :P |
| 13:04.28 | bleeter | not something better, but shows that there are holes in the theory :P |
| 13:04.47 | zenzelezz | reality dysfunction I say |
| 13:06.43 | bleeter | sag_ich_nicht: http://xxx.lanl.gov/abs/gr-qc/0304042/ |
| 13:08.22 | bleeter | anyways, an inability to come up with an alternative theory doesn't prove any current theory as correct :P |
| 13:09.34 | sag_ich_nicht | heh |
| 13:11.20 | sag_ich_nicht | bleeter you got that link from wikipedia |
| 13:11.21 | sag_ich_nicht | admit it |
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| 13:21.37 | bleeter | I admit to nothing, 'cept knowing of that paper's existence before I looked at Hawking's Wikipedia entry and was pleasantly suprised to see it linked there :P |
| 13:22.11 | bleeter | sag_ich_nicht, you didn't know of problems with Hawking's theory |
| 13:22.12 | bleeter | admit it |
| 13:30.02 | JoshBorke | btw, there's a show on the science channel about hawking and his black hole paradox (they haven't gotten to his current theory about information being released) |
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| 13:33.05 | sag_ich_nicht | bleeter actually, i did, but not in detail |
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| 13:43.10 | Anvilator | Hey all. Anyone abailable for a few minutes to help me with some syntax please? Im new to building Addons, but i think it should only tame a few minutes. |
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| 13:45.59 | amro | ~asktoask |
| 13:45.59 | purl | This is IRC. Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question and if someone's around, they'll be glad to help. |
| 13:46.12 | Anvilator | ahh ok thanks.. |
| 13:46.35 | sag_ich_nicht | god damn it, i nearly choked on a wasabi nut |
| 13:46.52 | sag_ich_nicht | my throat hurts like hell now :( |
| 13:47.45 | Lopeppeppy | Moral of the story: In IRC, wasabi nut eats you. |
| 13:48.24 | zenzelezz | sag_ich_nicht: chew first |
| 13:49.02 | Anvilator | I'm trying to set a checkbox on loading an addon depending on the value of a Saved Variable called TalentArcaneFocus. The value of the variable is either "true" or "false". To use it i tried this in the xml: self:SetChecked(Nuke_TalentArcaneFocus); but It's not working at all. Any suggestions? |
| 13:49.25 | Anvilator | umm ignore the "Nuke_" prefix thats not right |
| 13:49.49 | zenzelezz | first of all, are you sure you're waiting until the saved variables are loaded? |
| 13:50.10 | bleeter | sag_ich_nicht: I'm off to bed, I'll leave you with the words of Gonzo The Great... 'I thought this was Bowling For Weirdos' |
| 13:50.41 | Anvilator | ok, Im calling that command using <onload>, and as far as im aware that's executed after Saved Variables have been loaded? |
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| 13:51.32 | zenzelezz | think you need to wait for VARIABLES_LOADED or somesuch |
| 13:55.13 | Anvilator | hmm I have registered for the VARIABLES_LOADED event in the Parent Frame, but im not 100% on it. Would you say the syntax is correct for using the Value of "TalentArcaneFocus" (assuming variables are loaded) to set the checkbox? |
| 13:58.10 | zenzelezz | I don't recall offhand, but I think so. One important thing though... if you call it in OnLoad then you're not waiting for the event itself to happen, even if you register it |
| 13:58.26 | zenzelezz | *for it |
| 13:59.11 | Anvilator | Ahaa, so basically its gonna use my default Value for TalentArcaneFocus. Right, that makes sense. Thanks for helping with that. |
| 14:02.27 | |FF|Im2good4u | <Font name="RaidInfoTracker_List_Button_Font" justifyH="LEFT" inherits="GameFontHighlight" virtual="true"> <- is that correct since it still centered >.< |
| 14:04.46 | zenzelezz | looks correct at least, but I'm not very familiar with fonts |
| 14:05.04 | cogwheel | |FF|Im2good4u: how are you anchoring it? |
| 14:05.07 | zenzelezz | the piece of code could still be telling the fontstring ot override it |
| 14:05.15 | cogwheel | if it's anchored in the center and you're not giving it a size, it will appear centered |
| 14:05.29 | cogwheel | s/in the/by its/ |
| 14:06.25 | cogwheel | so you can either anchor it by its left side (topleft or bottomleft will work too) and then you don't need justifyH at all or you can give it a size and it will work as expected |
| 14:07.47 | |FF|Im2good4u | well thats not it iv seen it justifyed to the left but then the entire GameFontHightlight was justifyed to the left. So instead of justifying the entire GameFontHighlight i tryed to make a new font. (its text on a button) |
| 14:07.53 | grephead | since there are more people here now... If I wanted to turn what is currently a macro, into a /cmd, so that if I wanted to I could take the /cmd and stick it into a macro... is that possible? Here is an example of something I would like to turn into a /cmd http://wow.pastey.net/73429 |
| 14:09.09 | |Jelly| | drephead: It'd be more trouble than it's worth because you'd have to make it a secure button. |
| 14:09.16 | |Jelly| | grephead* |
| 14:09.48 | cogwheel | and the secure button would just hold that macro anyway |
| 14:10.09 | cogwheel | But... you've got a bunch of unnecessary stuff in there |
| 14:10.36 | cogwheel | Hiding and showing UIErrorsFrame doesn't accomplish anything. The macro runs in between frames so that will never be rendered |
| 14:10.45 | cogwheel | the clear is all you need |
| 14:11.08 | grephead | If inner focus is on cool down, it throws an error, it still runs, but it throws an error. |
| 14:11.13 | ts|skrom | Bioshock is terrifying |
| 14:11.17 | cogwheel | Also, 2.1 gave us a new syntax so you don't have to repeat the same spell name. Remove the two middle flash heals and their semicolons |
| 14:11.29 | grephead | err ok |
| 14:11.36 | |Jelly| | http://wow.pastey.net/73434 there are cleaner ways of doing it but I literally woke up 2 minutes ago so make cog do it :P |
| 14:12.37 | cogwheel | also, if you put the modifier condition first, then it will imply nomodifier on the later ones |
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| 14:13.25 | cogwheel | and your harm conditional is applying to your targettarget |
| 14:13.50 | |Jelly| | Gah. You're going to actually make me look at that again, aren't you Cog? |
| 14:13.55 | cogwheel | http://wow.pastey.net/73435 |
| 14:14.48 | alestane | I apparently came in in the middle of something. |
| 14:15.03 | cogwheel | just working my macro magic :) |
| 14:15.06 | |Jelly| | alestane: me being lazy more than anything |
| 14:15.07 | cogwheel | time for the dentist... |
| 14:15.54 | alestane | cladhaire: I was going to throw this question at both you and cogwheel, but I got here about two minutes too late... |
| 14:16.24 | cladhaire | ok |
| 14:16.50 | alestane | Stage one of my FrameXML proposal is ready, I have a compiled diff file and all the modified files. What should I POST in the forum, and what should I LINK in the forum? |
| 14:17.28 | cladhaire | I would suggest posting everything, including the files in wowinterface.com's forums |
| 14:17.32 | cladhaire | you can attach the diffs, etc. |
| 14:17.52 | cladhaire | i would then post the concept, idea, rationale in the official forums, linking to the wowi post |
| 14:18.40 | alestane | Okay, that's gonna take a little while but I'll see what I can do. |
| 14:18.48 | alestane | Thanks for feedback. |
| 14:19.00 | cladhaire | that way you know the post isn't going anywhere, and you can attach, use images, etc. |
| 14:21.25 | zenzelezz | FrameXML proposal? |
| 14:22.26 | alestane | zenzelezz: I am suggesting several changes to SecureActionButtons and the Bliz action bars to make mod authors' (and Bliz devs') lives somewhat easier. |
| 14:22.47 | Anvilator | Trying to use a Saved Variable to set a checkbox, had some help already (many thanks) now getting an error saying " '(' expected near 'myTabPages3_ArcaneFocus' " Any help is greatly appreciated.. http://wowi.pastey.net/73436-2ke1 |
| 14:23.25 | zenzelezz | you forgot () after the function's name |
| 14:23.30 | alestane | You need a parameter list after your function name. |
| 14:23.37 | alestane | even if it's just () |
| 14:23.53 | Anvilator | ahh Thanks mate :-) |
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| 14:28.38 | Anvilator | hmm still setting the checkbox to the default value as if the SAVED_VARIABLES havent been loaded :-( |
| 14:28.59 | alestane | In what part of your code are you referring to the saved variable? |
| 14:29.00 | zenzelezz | where are you trying to set it? In OnEvent? |
| 14:30.48 | alestane | NVM, I see...have you tried dumping the value before you use it? And does your TOC file establish the SavedVariable? |
| 14:30.53 | Anvilator | First i defined a Default Value in the lua, then in the xml i registered for VARIABLES_LOADED, then if VARIABLES_LOADED=true (OnEvent), I call the function to set the checkbox according to the value of the saved variable. |
| 14:31.38 | Anvilator | Yes, I have ## SavedVariablesPerCharacter: Nuke_TalentArcaneFocus in the toc |
| 14:32.36 | alestane | And has the file shown up in your character folder? |
| 14:33.00 | Anvilator | gonna check now |
| 14:33.02 | zenzelezz | Anvilator: http://wowi.pastey.net/73440?lang=xml -- something like this? |
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| 14:35.42 | Anvilator | @zenzelezz Yes, almost exact, apart from i used this:RegisterEvent("VARIABLES_LOADED"); instead of "self:RegisteredEvent", would that make a difference? |
| 14:35.58 | zenzelezz | this = bad, self = good |
| 14:36.13 | Anvilator | ok thanks for heads up, gonna go change that. |
| 14:36.35 | zenzelezz | the effect is probably the same for you, but it's good to learn it anyway |
| 14:38.52 | Shirik | the effect is never the same!! |
| 14:38.53 | Shirik | always use self! |
| 14:39.05 | Shirik | Well unless you did something really strange :/ |
| 14:39.13 | Shirik | but then you should know what you're doing |
| 14:39.26 | zenzelezz | hokay, I just noticed my guild note... "Concrete cookie" |
| 14:39.31 | Shirik | rofl |
| 14:39.43 | |Jelly| | For the record, Shirik yelled at me about this too. You're not alone! :P |
| 14:39.45 | Lopeppeppy | Sounds like something I would write.... |
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| 14:46.15 | Anvilator | ok, I pasted the .lua here : http://wowi.pastey.net/73442 and the .xml here: http://wowi.pastey.net/73443 , maybe that will make it a little clearer :-) |
| 14:47.34 | zenzelezz | you've created a function inside a function? |
| 14:48.08 | zenzelezz | your last "end" should be before the comment about being called from variables loaded |
| 14:48.22 | Shirik | zenzelezz: It's legal :D |
| 14:48.30 | Shirik | actually, tbh, it should work identically |
| 14:48.32 | zenzelezz | but can he call the subfunction? |
| 14:48.35 | Shirik | sure |
| 14:48.43 | zenzelezz | I thought they obeyed scope |
| 14:48.46 | Shirik | "function foo()" is just "foo = function()" |
| 14:48.48 | Shirik | nah that'll be a global |
| 14:48.55 | zenzelezz | what a stupid language ;-o |
| 14:48.58 | Shirik | may not be what he intended |
| 14:49.02 | Shirik | but it's legal nonetheless |
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| 14:49.51 | Anvilator | added that "end" gonna retest just incase |
| 14:50.08 | Shirik | >>> function foo() function bar() print("Rawr!"); end if not pcall(bar) then print("Bar don't exist yet!") end foo() bar() |
| 14:50.09 | Cide | Shirik: [string "function foo() function bar() print("Rawr!"); end if not pcall(..."]:1: 'end' expected near '<eof>' |
| 14:50.18 | Shirik | >>> function foo() function bar() print("Rawr!"); end end if not pcall(bar) then print("Bar don't exist yet!") end foo() bar() |
| 14:50.18 | Cide | Shirik: "Bar don't exist yet!", "Rawr!" |
| 14:50.21 | Shirik | :) |
| 14:51.09 | zenzelezz | one thing though... does "true" and "false" (strings) evaluate to true and false (booleans)? |
| 14:51.16 | alestane | No. |
| 14:51.18 | Shirik | negative |
| 14:51.19 | Shirik | they're both true |
| 14:51.24 | Shirik | only nil and false are false |
| 14:51.33 | Anvilator | hmm now i get '<eof>' expected near 'end' |
| 14:51.41 | Shirik | because you don't want that end at the end |
| 14:51.53 | Shirik | you were just moving it up |
| 14:51.56 | zenzelezz | you had to move the "end", not just add it :) |
| 14:51.58 | Shirik | not making a new one |
| 14:52.08 | Anvilator | ahh i see k 1 sec |
| 14:52.27 | Anvilator | And i have to use 'nil' for false right? |
| 14:52.35 | Shirik | ? |
| 14:52.38 | zenzelezz | no, true and false are values |
| 14:52.48 | Anvilator | k |
| 14:53.08 | zenzelezz | http://www.wowwiki.com/API_CheckButton_SetChecked |
| 14:54.29 | Cide | may I? Anvilator: www.lua.org/pil |
| 14:54.43 | Anvilator | by all means, please do |
| 14:54.49 | Cide | I did |
| 14:54.53 | Anvilator | :-) |
| 14:54.59 | Shirik | no you shall not Cide! |
| 14:54.59 | Kalroth | Cide is a meanie. |
| 14:55.07 | Anvilator | k, noted. |
| 14:56.01 | |Jelly| | Does anyone else miss the bot that corrected you? LUA |
| 14:56.09 | Anvilator | Thanks for those links. Makes sense. |
| 14:56.23 | |Jelly| | (No, nothing prompted that. I just miss it is all.) |
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| 15:00.37 | zenzelezz | by the way, Shield Wall does not seem to work with fall damage... that or you just take an insane amount of damage from the Aldor plaza |
| 15:01.29 | alestane | Power Word: Shield doesn't appear to absorb falling damage at all. |
| 15:01.44 | haste | alestane: it was changed to that a while ago |
| 15:01.49 | haste | even said so in the patch notes |
| 15:01.52 | alestane | And the Aldor plaza is VERY high. |
| 15:02.07 | alestane | haste: what about Divine Protection? |
| 15:02.11 | Kaydeethree | nothing mitigates fall damage unless you slow fall or blink right before you hit the ground |
| 15:02.14 | Lopeppeppy | It is very high. Use Levitation instead. Divine Protection works fine. |
| 15:02.19 | haste | I just remember ths PWS thing |
| 15:02.28 | Lopeppeppy | My paladin jumps lots and lots off things, it's very fun. |
| 15:02.28 | zenzelezz | well, Shield Wall is 75%, so I had hoped it would work for fall damage =D I was wrong :( |
| 15:03.53 | alestane | blink will get you out of fall damage? |
| 15:04.36 | Lopeppeppy | So I've heard my mage-friends say. Mind the Lag Monster though, you may hit the ground before you *think* you do. |
| 15:04.38 | Kaydeethree | yes, if you blink before you hit the ground, you restart falling wherever you hit blink |
| 15:04.40 | alestane | So much for the law of conservation of momentum...Scotty should have rolled mage, then he COULD change the laws o' physics, captain. |
| 15:05.02 | Kaydeethree | done properly, you can blink right as you hit the ground and gain the 15 or so yards as you land |
| 15:05.14 | alestane | That sounds very touchy. |
| 15:05.25 | Kaydeethree | just involves having a good connection |
| 15:05.54 | alestane | Well, I'm usually around 28ms. |
| 15:05.54 | zenzelezz | I remember messing around with my Levitate macro on my priest (showing consumables before the macro change etc) |
| 15:06.12 | zenzelezz | plummeted to my death a few times before I noticed I had /cast "Levitate" (with quotes) |
| 15:06.33 | Kaydeethree | remember that the server does have some lag compensation built in, you don't have to nail it, as long as you're reasonably close |
| 15:06.48 | |Jelly| | I remember jumping into the water in SSC the other day...not having feathers. |
| 15:08.42 | zenzelezz | win! http://www.razzle.de/images/funstuff/kthxbye.png |
| 15:08.55 | |Jelly| | lol |
| 15:11.07 | zenzelezz | my guild's forum also still has the "how to survive thw way to Hydross" picture posted: http://img106.imageshack.us/img106/4795/gallery52310512oz3.png |
| 15:11.57 | Anvilator | ok, so do changes to the .toc require a complete restart as apposed to a /reloadui to actually take place? |
| 15:11.59 | Kalroth | hahaha |
| 15:11.59 | |Jelly| | You'd be surprised how many people we had to rez on the elevator. Sad part is, it wasn't their first time in there. |
| 15:12.05 | Kalroth | zenzelezz: We could use that one :P |
| 15:12.13 | |Jelly| | Anvilator: Yes |
| 15:12.20 | |Jelly| | ...as far as I know |
| 15:12.36 | Wraanger | question .... if I want to set default font to use in my addon, how it should be done ? so I am not forced to :SetFont(font,height,flag) each time but just :SetFont(arg) ? |
| 15:12.51 | zenzelezz | |Jelly|: the picture wasn't posted as a joke for us either =D |
| 15:13.01 | |Jelly| | Win. |
| 15:13.04 | Anvilator | Nice. Thanks for your help guys, the checkboxes are now working (after 3 days of headbanging) hehe. |
| 15:13.12 | zenzelezz | we seem to finally be able to leave the platforms around Lurker for Morogrim without people falling off |
| 15:14.00 | alestane | Anvilator: What are you working on anyway? |
| 15:14.15 | |Jelly| | We had a big cluster yesterday on Lurker with people falling in the water while we were clearing. Apparently (I didn't see myself) there's a hole or a bug or something where people "fall" through the platform. |
| 15:14.37 | Kaydeethree | there's a few holes near the edges on the path to lurker |
| 15:14.45 | zenzelezz | for us it's always been the pipes |
| 15:14.54 | zenzelezz | or just people walking off the side completely |
| 15:14.55 | |Jelly| | Well, there ya go. Are they noticeable? |
| 15:15.07 | |Jelly| | Cause I seriously didn't see any of them but I also didn't fall in them either. |
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| 15:15.15 | Kaydeethree | nope. people usually have to fall through them once or twice to realize that that area isn't safe |
| 15:15.19 | Anvilator | I want to make an Addon that takes into account all Talents, Buffs, Debuffs etc to compare a currently worn piece of equipment with a pieve of loot that drops in terms of DPS increase / decrease for Mages. |
| 15:15.46 | Kaydeethree | Anvilator, you mean something like TheoryCraft? |
| 15:15.52 | Anvilator | yep |
| 15:16.12 | Kaydeethree | I miss the loot-compare part of TC... has it even been updated in the past 6 months? |
| 15:16.50 | Anvilator | But as far as im aware Theorycraft doesnt compare the effect of removing x and replacing with y does it? |
| 15:16.55 | Kaydeethree | yup |
| 15:17.09 | Anvilator | oh. And there is a working vesrsion u know of? |
| 15:17.11 | Lopeppeppy | I saw a GearDPS addon that I couldn't load past the error monster, and RatingBuster. AFIK, that's it. |
| 15:17.29 | Kaydeethree | I've seen old versions on curse, but I doubt they've been updated in a while |
| 15:18.01 | Lopeppeppy | Even if it's outdated, it might be a good code-study starting point. |
| 15:18.09 | Anvilator | I use Magecalc, but it runs outside of wow. Fairly accurate, but no calculations for Trinks. |
| 15:18.36 | Anvilator | @Lope , yea good point. |
| 15:19.08 | Anvilator | I have all the Math figured out, just need to learn to Build addons well now hehe |
| 15:20.14 | Anvilator | All inspired by the fact i got the Lightning Capacitor, and i wanted to calculate dps for different crit ratings lol |
| 15:20.30 | Lopeppeppy | It's usually something small to start with. |
| 15:21.39 | Anvilator | btw, @Mages, +dmg is still superior to +crit even with tlc (both after +hit up to the cap ofc). |
| 15:21.59 | Kaydeethree | of course, you need to have somewhere in the 2k range of +dmg before crit starts becoming useful |
| 15:22.26 | Anvilator | aye, I wondered if TLC would influence that, but it doesnt really. |
| 15:22.35 | |Jelly| | Then, wouldn't you sacrifice too much +dmg to make +crit useful all over again? :P |
| 15:23.13 | Lopeppeppy | I'd always heard that +crit wasn't for regular casters... but my mage is truly my baby character. |
| 15:23.43 | Anvilator | +crit is a "for fun" stat imo |
| 15:24.24 | |Jelly| | It's a pally stat. :P |
| 15:24.31 | Anvilator | or shammy |
| 15:24.54 | |Jelly| | I was more or less taking a stab at their 60% return that I hear so many of them QQ over. |
| 15:25.08 | Anvilator | hehe |
| 15:25.28 | |Jelly| | Last night, I had five crits in a row and clearcasting didn't proc once. |
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| 15:26.58 | Wraanger | heyaz Tuller |
| 15:27.03 | Tuller | hello |
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| 15:29.46 | |Jelly| | Morning Cairenn :P |
| 15:29.52 | Cairenn | morning :) |
| 15:30.12 | Lopeppeppy | Heyo. |
| 15:33.20 | |Jelly| | !c us burning legion thundervine |
| 15:33.22 | ThraeBot | |Jelly|: Thundervine, Level 70 Tauren Druid (49/0/12). 7491 HP; 6890 Mana; 223 mana regen; 64 mp5; 4.16% melee crit; 64 spell crit; 353 +spell dmg; 548 +heal; 5.19% dodge; 116 resilience; 10 nature resist (+10);[[ TBR: 1015 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/yox678 ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/2qcadf ][ Updated: Wed Sep 5 11:44:50 2007 ]] |
| 15:35.56 | Polarina | !c eu scarshield legion polarina |
| 15:35.58 | ThraeBot | Polarina: Polarina, Level 61 Night Elf Hunter (0/7/45). 4733 HP; 3451 Mana; 88 mana regen; 2 mp5; 3087 Armour; 702 AP; 113.7 Melee DPS; 14.98% melee crit; 589 RAP; 122.2 Ranged DPS; 22.18% ranged crit; 20.49% dodge; 5 arcane resist; 25 nature resist (+10);[[ TBR: 620 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/24sfbz ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/2q2of9 ][ Updated: Tue Sep 4 12:12:48 2007 ]] |
| 15:36.02 | Polarina | Still 61?!? |
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| 15:41.52 | alestane | There we go: http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=1371543264&postId=13712518674&sid=1 |
| 15:43.30 | Wraanger | if i want a number in defaults, what format it would be : ["posx"] = "-5", or ["posx"] = -5, ? |
| 15:43.48 | nevcairiel | only -5 |
| 15:44.00 | alestane | Generally -5 with no quotes. You want a numeric value not a string. |
| 15:45.34 | Cide | www.lua.org/pil |
| 15:45.40 | Shirik | ~hug Cide |
| 15:45.41 | purl | ACTION hugs Cide |
| 15:45.52 | Shirik | ~factinfo glomp |
| 15:45.52 | purl | there's no such factoid as glomp, Shirik |
| 15:45.56 | Shirik | gr, need to fix that |
| 15:46.15 | |Jelly| | http://i178.photobucket.com/albums/w241/chloearks79/acancergm.jpg |
| 15:46.35 | Shirik | wtf |
| 15:46.36 | nevcairiel | old one |Jelly| |
| 15:46.42 | |Jelly| | NEW TO ME! |
| 15:46.43 | |Jelly| | !!!! |
| 15:46.46 | Shirik | new to me >.> |
| 15:46.46 | Kaydeethree | been on the forums for a while |
| 15:46.55 | |Jelly| | You all make me sad. |
| 15:47.01 | |Jelly| | I hope you know this. |
| 15:47.12 | Shirik | Why do I make you sad?! |
| 15:47.25 | |Jelly| | Cause you're in the "in" crowd! |
| 15:47.27 | Lopeppeppy | My innately suspicious nature ruins all those screenshot thingies for me. |
| 15:47.31 | |Jelly| | And they're all laughing at me! |
| 15:47.42 | Kaydeethree | "they're all gonna laugh at you!" |
| 15:48.38 | Shirik | Since when am I ever in an "in" crowd |
| 15:48.42 | Shirik | impossible |
| 15:49.50 | |Jelly| | So humble. |
| 15:50.59 | Shirik | no |
| 15:51.00 | Shirik | pragmatic |
| 15:51.14 | Lopeppeppy | It's rarely worth the effort. |
| 15:52.20 | Cairenn | by dint of being a regular in this channel, doesn't that make you part of the "in" crowd of said channel? |
| 15:52.54 | zenzelezz | you know, about the topic, I thought that was what marriage was like |
| 15:53.10 | alestane | Sort of amused by this guy on wowinterface who's very determinedly trying to log a U.S. WoW client onto a Chinese server, despite innumerable assurances that it won't work. |
| 15:53.27 | alestane | zenzelezz: I think that's what Cogwheel said. |
| 15:53.55 | zenzelezz | I wasn't awake at the time |
| 15:55.19 | |Jelly| | Cairenn: Don't bring logic into this! |
| 15:55.30 | Cairenn | sorry, silly me |
| 15:55.58 | alestane | Or as we used to say in high school, "Stop clouding the issue with FACTS, dammit!" |
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| 15:56.32 | Lopeppeppy | So, are you guys saying we're all married? |
| 15:56.35 | Cairenn | I've always been fond of "My mind is made up, don't confuse me with the facts" |
| 15:58.06 | Wraanger | question : http://images.gammatester.com/pics/e3a7c68c3618cacddfac01b9d3b6160f.jpg << there is some garbage behind coordinates in minimap ...what can create it ?? |
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| 16:03.35 | Cairenn | There was a chicken and a horse playing together on a farm one day. The horse fell into a mud pit and yelled to the chicken to run to the house and get the farmer. The chicken ran to the house and the farmer was nowhere to be found. So, it got into the farmer's BMW and pulled the horse out with it. |
| 16:03.42 | Cairenn | The next day the chicken and the horse were playing on the farm again. This time the chicken fell into the mud pit and yelled to the horse to get help. So, the horse stood over the mud pit and told the chicken to grab on to his penis and he'd pull him out. The chicken grabbed on and, indeed, the horse pulled him out. |
| 16:03.49 | Cairenn | The moral of the story: If you're hung like a horse, you don't need a BMW to pick up chicks. |
| 16:05.38 | zenzelezz | just your head? |
| 16:08.08 | Lopeppeppy | Small desk. |
| 16:08.29 | zenzelezz | arr, and I was just about to take advantage of you seemingly not being able to see IRC |
| 16:08.49 | Lopeppeppy | Not gonna happen. |
| 16:10.01 | grephead | macro question... how do I stop a macro from complaining that a spell isn't ready yet when it is on cool down? |
| 16:11.39 | zenzelezz | don't think you can other than by not executing the macro |
| 16:11.56 | Lopeppeppy | What about the "clear error frame" line? |
| 16:12.04 | |Jelly| | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:12.33 | zenzelezz | doesn't prevent it, only remove it ;-o |
| 16:12.47 | |Jelly| | He said stop, not prevent. |
| 16:13.01 | zenzelezz | doesn't stop it either |
| 16:13.03 | Lopeppeppy | You still get the little sound, but I can live with sounds, since I don't have them turned on in the first place. |
| 16:13.15 | |Jelly| | touché |
| 16:13.48 | grephead | the /run UIErrorsFrame:Clear() line gets rid of the text on screen, but doesn't get rid of the sound "I can't cast that yet" |
| 16:14.00 | Lopeppeppy | Yup, just like I said grephead. |
| 16:14.04 | Kaydeethree | uncheck "Voice Errors" in sound options |
| 16:14.15 | |Jelly| | In sound options "Enable Error Speech" does that not get rid of it? |
| 16:14.42 | zenzelezz | what, you mean you don't like to have someone shouting "I NEED MORE RAGE!" "NOT ENOUGH RAGE!" at you when raiding? |
| 16:14.55 | Kaydeethree | how can anyone stand that? |
| 16:15.05 | |Jelly| | I have all my sounds turned off. lol |
| 16:15.09 | |Jelly| | Music > |
| 16:15.11 | zenzelezz | I disabled those about 15 minutes after starting WoW |
| 16:15.16 | zenzelezz | the error sounds |
| 16:15.28 | Lopeppeppy | I did as well, and the rest of the sounds followed very shortly afterward. |
| 16:15.47 | grephead | hmmm some of them I want though... is there a way to turn them off in a macro? |
| 16:15.51 | zenzelezz | I have music and error speech disabled, but I like the rest |
| 16:16.12 | zenzelezz | I rely on the sound feedback to know if my abilities land, etc |
| 16:18.43 | ales|lunch | FontStrings and Textuers aren't independently mouse-enabled, right? |
| 16:18.49 | Lopeppeppy | I don't think there's any way to "select" which error noise to turn off like that, grephead... but if there is, someone is about to correct me. :) |
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| 16:19.45 | ales|lunch | It has been proposed that, if the sound file were identified, it could be overridden with a silent sound file, but that that would block all occurrences of the sound for any reason. |
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| 16:20.50 | grephead | Lopeppeppy: bah, oh well. If I have to deal with that I will. |
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| 16:32.58 | Kaydeethree | mmm... finally finished off that gigantic hershey's kiss from yesterday |
| 16:33.23 | Lopeppeppy | Ugh... Kaydeethree, it all goes straight to your hips, you know. But nice work nevertheless! |
| 16:33.39 | alestane | Dessert should never be work. |
| 16:33.48 | Kaydeethree | I'm a guy and my metabolism's like a hummingbird, amazingly |
| 16:34.00 | Kaydeethree | dad keeps threatening that it'll stop being like that in a few years |
| 16:34.05 | Lopeppeppy | I shall kill you for it.... |
| 16:39.17 | grephead | I had a metabolism like that... once. |
| 16:39.58 | Lopeppeppy | Once upon a time, yup. And you don't notice until you pack on 30 pounds and go "why don't my jeans fit right?" and then you're stuck fighting it for the rest of your natural life. Icky. |
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| 16:40.47 | grephead | heh I was fine until I quit smoking... then the desk job and bad food caught up with me. still, 200lbs doesn't look too bad on a 6'1 frame. |
| 16:40.51 | grephead | and now... to mow the lawn! |
| 16:40.56 | Kaydeethree | I've hopefully still got a few years. dad keeps threatening 27. I'm 22. |
| 16:41.29 | grephead | 25-27 is when I started to gain a bit of weight, like 10-20 lbs. |
| 16:41.48 | Lopeppeppy | It varies, kaydeethree. Mine didn't hit until 32, and then it's smacked me around ever since. |
| 16:41.52 | grephead | I was only 165lbs up until then, so still not a big deal. |
| 16:42.55 | Lopeppeppy | A'ite, I'm going home early. Stay good, everypeople. |
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| 16:44.22 | alestane | Did everyone's nicknames chase Lopeppeppy out the door? |
| 16:45.39 | Kaydeethree | I dunno, was just being a sheep |
| 16:46.13 | Cairenn | sorry, silliness in another channel |
| 16:46.29 | Cairenn | hungarian nicking conventions gone wrong |
| 16:46.45 | zenzelezz | you're saying you were global? |
| 16:47.21 | Cairenn | oClad = op, iCaelten = idiot, gCair = (girl, global, goddess, whatever) |
| 16:47.23 | Mr_Rabies2 | MAN |
| 16:47.28 | Mr_Rabies2 | oops, caps |
| 16:47.39 | Mr_Rabies2 | dunkin donuts has surprisingly good coffee |
| 16:47.46 | Kaydeethree | ya |
| 16:47.47 | zenzelezz | the only hungarian notation I know is for coding |
| 16:47.48 | Mr_Rabies2 | i think i'll order my coffee from them from now on |
| 16:47.55 | nevcairiel | m i should try it sometime |
| 16:48.07 | nevcairiel | i always go across the street to the starbucks |
| 16:48.16 | alestane | That's why we navigate by them in Massachusetts. |
| 16:48.19 | Kaydeethree | bah. screw starbucks |
| 16:48.31 | Kaydeethree | the only thing I ever go there for is the chocolate drink |
| 16:48.38 | Cairenn | zenzelezz: as I said, we were just being silly in another channel |
| 16:48.48 | alestane | Starbucks makes some good beverages but the fact that they cost twice what Dunks does tends to push me away. |
| 16:49.00 | zenzelezz | for some reason I was reminded of the song "Bitch" |
| 16:49.23 | Mr_Rabies2 | most starbucks tend to overheat the water |
| 16:49.26 | Cairenn | "I'm a bitch, I'm a lover, I'm a child, I'm a mother" |
| 16:49.27 | Mr_Rabies2 | and burn the coffee :x |
| 16:49.50 | Mr_Rabies2 | that or overroast the beans |
| 16:49.51 | zenzelezz | more specifically I was thinking of the line "I'm a bitch, I'm a tease, I'm a goddess on my knees" |
| 16:50.03 | alestane | Where'd we get Alannis all of a sudden? |
| 16:50.14 | Mr_Rabies2 | it always just tastes burnt to me, and buying the beans from them is way too much money |
| 16:50.15 | Cairenn | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:50.28 | Mr_Rabies2 | i'd love to find a nice source for unroasted beans and get a roaster |
| 16:50.38 | zenzelezz | Alanis? Wrong |
| 16:51.02 | Mr_Rabies2 | dunkin donuts has a nice high acidity and low bitterness |
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| 16:51.23 | alestane | My discography could be off. |
| 16:51.24 | zenzelezz | Meredith Brooks, that was the name |
| 16:51.33 | zenzelezz | similarish voice |
| 16:51.41 | alestane | Going to say, same sort of sound. |
| 16:52.44 | art3mis | meh i feel sick today |
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| 16:57.30 | ScytheBlade1 | bleeter, har har, this is the copy I hand-built :P |
| 16:57.44 | alestane | art3mis: BTW, judging from the Colorful UI thread that cyCircled skin was a really good idea. |
| 16:57.54 | art3mis | yeah |
| 16:57.58 | art3mis | it looks REALLY nice |
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| 16:58.06 | alestane | Everyone thought it made the UI. |
| 16:58.16 | art3mis | yup yup |
| 16:58.25 | art3mis | i really need to commit it ;P |
| 16:58.32 | art3mis | mind if i do that since it's your grpahics? |
| 16:58.35 | art3mis | graphics |
| 16:58.40 | alestane | I never saw a screenshot that shows, did you manage to get it so the eyes and nose show up on mouseover. |
| 16:58.44 | alestane | ? |
| 16:59.20 | art3mis | yup they're really subtle |
| 16:59.20 | art3mis | but you can see em when you hover and click |
| 16:59.20 | art3mis | click/activate |
| 16:59.20 | alestane | You can go ahead and post it as long as my name is in there somewhere. |
| 16:59.20 | art3mis | http://www.gothi.ca/Stuff/hellokitty-ui.jpg |
| 16:59.20 | art3mis | that has em |
| 16:59.24 | art3mis | just refresh if you dont see em |
| 16:59.41 | alestane | BTW as long as we're giving credit, the buttons started as the Serenity skin that comes with cyCircled. |
| 16:59.52 | ScytheBlade1 | Yeah, just no |
| 17:00.12 | art3mis | oh im just gonna patch em into cycircled on the svn |
| 17:00.19 | art3mis | so itlls be available for everyone ;P |
| 17:00.39 | alestane | Probably want to make them a separate add-on like GoldOrbs. |
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| 17:05.41 | alestane | Cairenn: Just curious, where'd your wowinterface avatar come from? |
| 17:05.55 | Cairenn | it's linked in my sig file |
| 17:06.01 | alestane | Ah. |
| 17:06.53 | zenzelezz | there's either something weird going on with my ISP's mail system or this quote of the day mailing list is messing up... get no mail for four days, then one for today and then one for three days ago, one for yesterday |
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| 17:07.49 | alestane | Seems pretty talented... |
| 17:08.03 | Cairenn | yeah, I really love the picture |
| 17:09.19 | alestane | I like the one you used a little more than the others on his DA page, it's not quite as...something. |
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| 17:09.52 | |Jelly| | COG! |
| 17:09.56 | alestane | Kind of scary, more than half my downloads on at wowi are one addon. |
| 17:10.10 | alestane | cog|work: Survive the dentist okay? |
| 17:10.26 | cog|work | yep :) |
| 17:10.28 | cog|work | I like the dentist |
| 17:10.44 | cog|work | Though I have an odd tolerance to *caine |
| 17:10.49 | alestane | I need to make an appointment within the next month myself. |
| 17:11.04 | cog|work | He had to give me 5 injections beyond the ones he thought "should" have gotten me quite numb |
| 17:11.13 | |Jelly| | lol |
| 17:11.23 | alestane | So it's probably easier to type than talk right now. |
| 17:11.53 | cog|work | Actually I can talk pretty well... smiling is another story... TGFEmoticons :) |
| 17:11.59 | zenzelezz | the most annoying part about local anaesthetic (or whatever it's called in English) is forgetting about it and trying to drink |
| 17:12.23 | cog|work | hrm... i have trouble even when i remember :\ |
| 17:12.33 | cog|work | I just spilt as you were typing that, in fact |
| 17:12.51 | alestane | cog|work: Got my first draft up for my UI stuff: http://www.wowinterface.com/forums/showthread.php?t=12097 |
| 17:13.30 | cog|work | nice :) |
| 17:14.04 | alestane | Review is appreciated, there is a Bliz thread for comments and pirate attention. |
| 17:14.21 | alestane | Both threads link each other. |
| 17:15.09 | |Jelly| | Every. Rat. Must. Die. |
| 17:15.50 | Esamynn | hey alestane, nice project! :) |
| 17:16.23 | alestane | I'm trying real hard. Going to have to slow down now that I got through a step but next hurdle will be unit frames. |
| 17:16.26 | cog|work | |Jelly|, alestane, did you guys see the bash cogwheel thread on General? >< http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=1371602689&sid=1&pageNo=1 |
| 17:16.51 | |Jelly| | Yeah. But why bash Cog? We <3 Cog! |
| 17:17.00 | cog|work | I told them to bash me :P |
| 17:17.18 | cog|work | for the same reason my wife mentioned in that thread XD |
| 17:17.59 | ScytheBlade1 | Yeah... I *didn't* just bump that thread on an anonymous trolling toon.. |
| 17:18.59 | Shirik|Ecole | that cog|work guy, he's a noob |
| 17:19.02 | Shirik|Ecole | he don't know anything |
| 17:19.03 | alestane | That is sort of funny. |
| 17:19.38 | Cidan | He doesn't even really know where to find sticky posts. |
| 17:19.42 | Cidan | Quite a shame. |
| 17:19.47 | Esamynn | god, why the heck would anyone ever mistake COGWHEEL for helpful?!?!? I mean, jeez, he's a GNOME! :P |
| 17:19.56 | cog|work | SRSLY! |
| 17:20.10 | Shirik|Ecole | ya rly |
| 17:20.19 | ScytheBlade1 | Just you watch. A pirate is going to appear in that thread, with a few words: "It is done." |
| 17:20.21 | cog|work | The only thing i QQed over was the accusation that I'm the reason they pulled Firefly :( |
| 17:20.26 | ScytheBlade1 | ANd then he'll be green from here on out |
| 17:20.28 | ScytheBlade1 | *And |
| 17:20.41 | alestane | I would have to hurt you for that one if it were true. |
| 17:20.59 | cog|work | Nah... he knows quite well what kind of an asshole i am :P |
| 17:21.11 | Esamynn | cog|work: that was YOU, YOU BASTARD!!! >( |
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| 17:21.47 | Cidan | psh |
| 17:21.50 | Cidan | I liked Dead Like Me |
| 17:21.53 | Cidan | it was funny. |
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| 17:22.14 | cog|work | I didn't see more than 15 minutes of an episode once so i didn't get hooked... My wife did though |
| 17:22.31 | Kaydeethree | oh wow... |
| 17:22.35 | Cidan | It's totally t3h funnay |
| 17:22.38 | cog|work | but Brisco Country is now on the top of our netflix |
| 17:22.39 | Kaydeethree | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=1272360911&sid=1#18 |
| 17:23.02 | Esamynn | cog|work: lol |
| 17:23.03 | cog|work | pfft |
| 17:23.07 | cog|work | MS plays belfs |
| 17:23.18 | alestane | Hey, at least they're offering to test. |
| 17:23.26 | art3mis | Esamynn: i corrected that one statment ;P |
| 17:24.36 | Esamynn | heh |
| 17:25.02 | Esamynn | wait, what's this? UI people posting in general forums....... |
| 17:25.14 | Esamynn | wait, a thread in the general forums with no serious flames? and no real trolls |
| 17:25.16 | Esamynn | WTF! |
| 17:25.29 | Esamynn | have we entered the twilight zone? |
| 17:25.32 | Cidan | I FIND YOUR STORY VERY UNLIKELY SIR. |
| 17:25.58 | cog|work | Esamynn: the weirdest thing is that it wasn't actually started by anyone in the UI community... I don't even know who the OP is >< |
| 17:26.06 | Esamynn | Cidan: I've seen it, and I STILL can't believe it :P |
| 17:26.29 | ScytheBlade1 | osnap |
| 17:26.30 | Kaydeethree | wow, that was quick |
| 17:26.36 | Kaydeethree | slouken already pinged the RFC thread |
| 17:26.36 | ScytheBlade1 | Palehoof posted in your thread, cog! |
| 17:26.46 | cog|work | so did crepe :) |
| 17:26.53 | cog|work | though i think he's just hitting on my wife... |
| 17:26.57 | ScytheBlade1 | Yeah, but... exactly |
| 17:26.59 | Shirik|Ecole | OnUpdate sends the args frame, dt, right? |
| 17:27.03 | Shirik|Ecole | always? |
| 17:27.07 | cog|work | gnomish mating season & all |
| 17:27.33 | Tuller | alestane: you got a blue reply :P |
| 17:27.39 | alestane | Kaydeethree: Actually, that's the first response I've gotten to either thread...cool! |
| 17:27.40 | Esamynn | Shirik|Ecole: OnUpdate sends frame, elapsed as args |
| 17:27.53 | Shirik|Ecole | and dt will never be negative |
| 17:27.59 | Shirik|Ecole | (elapsed as you call it) |
| 17:28.02 | Esamynn | nope |
| 17:28.08 | Esamynn | dt? delta? |
| 17:28.10 | alestane | And it wasn't "We're not interested right now" either. |
| 17:28.19 | cog|work | :) |
| 17:28.27 | alestane | Slouken is totally the coolest blue poster I've seen. |
| 17:28.36 | Shirik|Ecole | yeah |
| 17:28.37 | art3mis | alestane: posted to the hk thread, i want that one skin that person made, thats awesome ;P |
| 17:28.38 | Shirik|Ecole | delta time |
| 17:28.43 | Esamynn | ahh, ok |
| 17:28.44 | cog|work | srsly |
| 17:28.47 | amro | slouken = good news. all others = bad news |
| 17:28.53 | ScytheBlade1 | Hehe, good summary |
| 17:29.03 | Esamynn | amro: no no, there's our Ninja, don't forget her |
| 17:29.04 | art3mis | then i can finish parrot settings and ill post it ;) |
| 17:30.21 | Kaydeethree | has the ninja posted on the forums in the past year? |
| 17:30.24 | |Jelly| | [P] <Exzit>: lol what a childish kid <-- redundant? |
| 17:30.37 | Esamynn | Kaydeethree: point |
| 17:30.52 | alestane | art3mis: the font on those two really helps set the tone for them. |
| 17:30.59 | art3mis | yup yup |
| 17:31.04 | Esamynn | Kaydeethree: she did appear at BlizzCon though ;) |
| 17:31.10 | Kaydeethree | indeed |
| 17:31.21 | alestane | Ninja? |
| 17:31.27 | Esamynn | Rislyn |
| 17:31.28 | art3mis | any idea how i can make the saved variables transferable without issue? |
| 17:31.39 | art3mis | like the profiles for some ace crap etc? |
| 17:31.40 | zenzelezz | transferable? |
| 17:31.47 | art3mis | nods |
| 17:31.50 | Cidan | |Jelly|, no, childish is the adjective |
| 17:31.55 | art3mis | like if i package up my hk ui |
| 17:32.04 | art3mis | the layout and stuff needs to be saved |
| 17:32.11 | art3mis | or should i just not worry about it? |
| 17:32.17 | cog|work | art3mis: the best way to do that, imo, is to create an installer addon with all the default values programmed in |
| 17:32.19 | art3mis | oh wait no it's got all the olour settings |
| 17:32.29 | art3mis | cog|work: i suxxor at that |
| 17:32.39 | cog|work | that way you don't have to worry about WTF folders, find/replace, etc. |
| 17:32.51 | Shirik|Ecole | I'll WTF your folders |
| 17:32.52 | art3mis | thats why ive been pestering people to create a generic addon installer for me ;P |
| 17:33.00 | Wraanger | you just zip you Interface and WTF folders .... then people go into WTF folder and rename account, server etc |
| 17:33.15 | Shirik|Ecole | so question is this |
| 17:33.20 | |Jelly| | lol |
| 17:33.20 | Kaydeethree | but you can't expect people to know how to do that |
| 17:33.25 | art3mis | nods |
| 17:33.25 | Shirik|Ecole | why the hell is my OnUpdate script not getting elapsed time sporadically |
| 17:33.32 | Shirik|Ecole | like I'll hearth, and suddenly I don't get that parameter anymore |
| 17:33.36 | Shirik|Ecole | and I ge spammed with errors |
| 17:33.37 | Wraanger | i have gave out my UI to a buddy yesterday that way .... all options was intact |
| 17:34.02 | art3mis | wraanger: the down side is that it's a lot of ace mods with my name as profiles |
| 17:34.02 | Esamynn | Shirik|Ecole: you mean it gets called wth a nil elapsed time? |
| 17:34.18 | art3mis | meaning they're gonna have to search and replace every instance in all the sved vasr |
| 17:34.29 | art3mis | saved vars |
| 17:34.32 | alestane | Maybe the first time it fires after the UI reloads? |
| 17:34.36 | Kaydeethree | can't you save the current profile as the default in most ace mods? |
| 17:34.49 | art3mis | most default to that |
| 17:34.51 | Wraanger | yep ..that's what I going to say |
| 17:34.51 | art3mis | some dont |
| 17:35.02 | Esamynn | alestane: first time it fires after the UI loads, it's a large value (many seconds |
| 17:35.08 | Esamynn | ) because of the load time |
| 17:36.33 | Cide | maybe this was already linked... http://www.cnn.com/2007/US/09/04/Dobbs.Sept5/index.html |
| 17:36.52 | art3mis | do i only have to save the vars under my server/name ? |
| 17:37.06 | art3mis | or do i need the otehr saved var folder as well? |
| 17:37.09 | amro | double KO, and I didn't get any XP :( |
| 17:37.13 | alestane | Cide: the hell?!?! |
| 17:37.48 | cog|work | wtf? |
| 17:39.38 | Cide | yep :) |
| 17:39.40 | Cidan | As soon as I saw the name "Dobbs" I closed the link. |
| 17:40.02 | Cide | I'll paste then |
| 17:40.06 | Cide | "NEW YORK (CNN) -- Mexican President Felipe Calderon Sunday demanded the United States surrender its sovereignty, abandon the rule of law and accede to Mexico's inherent supremacy." |
| 17:40.08 | Cidan | No thanks, he's full of shit. |
| 17:40.15 | Cide | that's not his opinion |
| 17:40.18 | Cidan | Always has been, always will be. |
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| 17:41.49 | Cidan | That's funny, because he didn't say that at all. |
| 17:42.01 | Cidan | Learn to read for your self. |
| 17:42.17 | Cide | I know how to read, thank you very much |
| 17:42.34 | cog|work | I think that tagline is a non sequitur |
| 17:42.40 | Cide | I found it funny, but I really could care less if you don't |
| 17:42.58 | Cidan | You obviously do if you go through the trouble of forcing me to read it by pasting it here. |
| 17:42.58 | cog|work | I read most of the article and I didn't get nearly that harsh of an impression from it, but yeah... it definitely got a chuckle :P |
| 17:43.04 | Cide | cog|work: might very well be true |
| 17:43.47 | Cide | Cidan: if people close the link without reading, I figured I'd do those people the service of possibly reading something funny |
| 17:44.01 | Cide | don't be such a grumpy old man, will you? |
| 17:44.25 | Cidan | My apologies. |
| 17:44.39 | cog|work | you guys are just bitching because we all tab-complete incorrectly from time to time... |
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| 17:45.39 | alestane | Away for the weekend Luna? |
| 17:46.00 | Lunessa | Busy weekend, and then a storm knocked out my internet connection. |
| 17:46.06 | cog|work | :| |
| 17:46.07 | Kaydeethree | ick |
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| 17:46.34 | Lunessa | At least at work, I have connectivity! |
| 17:46.39 | art3mis | good god |
| 17:46.45 | art3mis | hk ui rarred is 20mb |
| 17:49.20 | alestane | Ouch...that can't be right. |
| 17:49.34 | art3mis | nods |
| 17:49.41 | art3mis | im just checking the transfer at present |
| 17:50.13 | Mr_Rabies2 | <art3mis> hk ui rarred is 20mb |
| 17:50.21 | Mr_Rabies2 | lightheaded is like 5mb |
| 17:50.33 | Mr_Rabies2 | but it's all LoD and has a ton of text |
| 17:50.47 | art3mis | ahh and auctioneer is a nother chunk |
| 17:50.53 | cladhaire | LH is not 5mb |
| 17:50.58 | art3mis | clad |
| 17:51.04 | Mr_Rabies2 | it was like 4.5 or something last i checked |
| 17:51.07 | art3mis | dod wowi allow for offsite linking for downloads? |
| 17:51.12 | cladhaire | it wouldn't be that large unless you have two databases loaded at once. |
| 17:51.14 | art3mis | dod == does |
| 17:51.23 | cladhaire | art3mis: what do you mean? |
| 17:51.36 | Mr_Rabies2 | 4.19 MB |
| 17:51.37 | art3mis | if its gonna turn out big i'd rahter wowi not pay for the traffic since ive got 1tb i can use for it |
| 17:51.39 | Mr_Rabies2 | zipped |
| 17:51.40 | Mr_Rabies2 | but |
| 17:52.02 | cladhaire | oh you were talking file size. |
| 17:52.02 | Mr_Rabies2 | like i said, it's all lod |
| 17:52.05 | cladhaire | my bad |
| 17:52.12 | cladhaire | compilations are 20 megs + |
| 17:52.15 | cladhaire | there's no issue hosting at wowi |
| 17:52.46 | Mr_Rabies2 | it only uses like |
| 17:52.50 | Mr_Rabies2 | 150 KiB |
| 17:52.56 | Mr_Rabies2 | or so atm |
| 17:52.59 | Mr_Rabies2 | (lightheaded) |
| 17:54.39 | Mr_Rabies2 | clad, i'd also like to mention i love the open/close sound/animation for lightheaded |
| 17:54.45 | cladhaire | lol thx. |
| 17:54.47 | Mr_Rabies2 | it brings me back to diablo for some reason |
| 17:54.47 | cladhaire | its from khara |
| 17:54.52 | Mr_Rabies2 | ah, is it |
| 17:55.03 | Mr_Rabies2 | oh, the back door |
| 17:55.04 | Tuller | the gate, right? |
| 17:55.04 | Mr_Rabies2 | isn't it |
| 17:59.21 | art3mis | awesome it scales! |
| 17:59.28 | art3mis | except the chatframes |
| 18:02.20 | art3mis | bah the wowace people are being they suck |
| 18:02.35 | art3mis | anyone have svn/commit access i can "borrow" ? |
| 18:03.51 | alestane | "Posting a screenshot without a description is not a bug report." |
| 18:04.05 | Kaydeethree | I laughed at that |
| 18:04.08 | Polarina | art3mis: http://opensvn.csie.org/ |
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| 18:05.11 | alestane | Kaydeethree: What's schadenfreude? |
| 18:05.23 | Lopeppeppy | A guild on my server.... |
| 18:05.32 | zenzelezz | and a funny German word |
| 18:05.36 | Kaydeethree | it's german. roughly means "getting cruel enjoyment out of people's suffering" |
| 18:05.47 | zenzelezz | surprisingly the ENglish language lacks an equal |
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| 18:06.39 | Polarina | Translating a simple, common word to english results in a name. |
| 18:06.47 | Polarina | From Icelandic. |
| 18:07.19 | cog|work | isn't that essentially sadism? |
| 18:07.31 | Kaydeethree | kinda. there's overlap but not really |
| 18:07.40 | Polarina | And that name, means nothing but that name. |
| 18:07.47 | art3mis | where does it store the location of the chat frame? |
| 18:07.55 | cog|work | chat-cache.txt |
| 18:07.56 | Kaydeethree | location-cache.txt iirc |
| 18:07.59 | Kaydeethree | bah, chat-cache |
| 18:08.08 | cog|work | err.. might be layout-cache... |
| 18:08.17 | cog|work | one of the two... |
| 18:08.17 | Kaydeethree | one of the two |
| 18:08.21 | Kaydeethree | haha |
| 18:08.22 | cog|work | jinx |
| 18:08.23 | alestane | layout-cache.txt I beleive. |
| 18:08.25 | Lopeppeppy | Somewhere! |
| 18:08.30 | art3mis | and why does it auto move it to a usable location if the res is smaller? |
| 18:08.44 | art3mis | doesnt |
| 18:08.57 | alestane | Sadism is pleasure or arousal at inflicting pain on others. |
| 18:09.14 | cog|work | it will in a future patch |
| 18:09.44 | alestane | As I understand KD3, Schadenfreude means enjoying someone else's suffering, even as a spectator. |
| 18:09.57 | Kaydeethree | that's how I use the word. how I"ve seen it used,too |
| 18:10.07 | art3mis | so if i remove the chatframe entries in the layout.txt itll just throw it in the default spot? |
| 18:11.50 | alestane | art3mis:New link in the HKUI thread. |
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| 18:13.22 | Polarina | >>> local s = "a,"; for i=1,18 do s = s..s end print(loadstring("local a;"..s.."a=nil", "")) -- SUFFER MY EVILNESS! |
| 18:13.36 | art3mis | thats pretty nice |
| 18:13.41 | Polarina | It suffered enough. :) |
| 18:13.53 | Cide | Polarina: |
| 18:14.03 | Polarina | It did suffer. Trust me. |
| 18:14.05 | Cide | I'd prefer if you don't do that |
| 18:14.10 | Polarina | Ok. |
| 18:14.14 | Cide | because I get this nice error popup |
| 18:14.19 | Polarina | :P |
| 18:14.34 | Polarina | You say it's nice and you complain?? |
| 18:16.00 | Polarina | Attention everyone! Make your WoW client suffer too by typing this to the chat: /script local s = "a,"; for i=1,18 do s = s..s end print(loadstring("local a;"..s.."a=nil", "")) |
| 18:16.47 | amro | OMG |
| 18:16.49 | Kaydeethree | bah |
| 18:16.50 | cog|work | weird... the numbness is gone but the paralysis remains... |
| 18:16.51 | Kaydeethree | I need more caffeine |
| 18:16.53 | amro | I just missed the boat THREE times |
| 18:17.29 | Lopeppeppy | Alt-tab more fasterly, amro? |
| 18:17.37 | cog|work | l2dualmonitor |
| 18:17.44 | ScytheBlade1 | I agree with the cog |
| 18:17.48 | Lopeppeppy | Cogwheel... I have such a huge phobia. *comforts* |
| 18:18.00 | Thunder_Child | dual monitor ftw |
| 18:18.07 | zenzelezz | dual + 1 |
| 18:18.07 | cog|work | wtf Thunder_Child ? |
| 18:18.17 | cog|work | you're not supposed to agree with me |
| 18:18.17 | Thunder_Child | what? |
| 18:18.19 | Thunder_Child | oh |
| 18:18.25 | Thunder_Child | i do when your right |
| 18:18.31 | cog|work | you're |
| 18:18.34 | Thunder_Child | it just happens so infrequently |
| 18:18.37 | art3mis | http://www.gothi.ca/Stuff/cyCircled_HKitty.rar <-- someone commit this on the wowacesvn for me i dont really wanna install svn just for this plus i dont have commit permissions |
| 18:19.09 | Kaydeethree | aw... the "Amani pass" qq thread went poof |
| 18:20.34 | cog|work | You know, I just realized the supreme irony in that post by MS in that thread... |
| 18:20.34 | amro | Lopeppeppy: I was ingame. I misclicked the fishing bobber and I have click to move enabled |
| 18:20.39 | Thunder_Child | is anyone following the apple keynote speach? |
| 18:20.51 | Kaydeethree | that they're posting in a thread calling for help for linux users? |
| 18:20.54 | cog|work | The thread was started because of an issue in Wine... |
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| 18:25.23 | Shirik|Ghost | -_- |
| 18:25.27 | Shirik|Ghost | I kicked the wrong one :( |
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| 18:28.39 | alestane | clad|book: Duplicate post...thanks for the backup though. |
| 18:29.08 | clad|book | they technically say a few different things, plus i'm too lazy to delete :P |
| 18:34.27 | cog|work | i was going to post something like that too but gave up on the wording :P |
| 18:37.05 | alestane | That moonkin -> elf -> bear -> elf -> moonkin macro is definitely one of the odder ones I've written. |
| 18:37.20 | alestane | Three interwoven castsequences. |
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| 18:42.00 | alestane | "Dear God, please let people that gank Prot Warriors get hit by a truck. Amen." |
| 18:42.58 | Cide | s/gank Prot Warriors/play Warriors and gank Priests/ |
| 18:44.26 | Kalroth | lol |
| 18:44.48 | Mr_Rabies2 | i ganked a rogue today |
| 18:44.48 | Kalroth | Cide: Reroll warrior already! |
| 18:44.51 | Mr_Rabies2 | on a pve server |
| 18:44.55 | Mr_Rabies2 | dumb sonofabitch |
| 18:45.02 | Mr_Rabies2 | hit me once :P |
| 18:45.04 | Cide | Kalroth: I like healing :) |
| 18:45.18 | Kalroth | Cide: Reroll shaman and come heal me then! |
| 18:45.27 | Kalroth | As well as being my totembitch |
| 18:45.29 | Cide | I can heal you better than a shaman can :P |
| 18:45.38 | Kalroth | No WF though, useless! |
| 18:45.56 | Kalroth | I'll even force the raid to use CTRA! |
| 18:45.56 | art3mis | someone go approve my hk ui on wowi ;P |
| 18:46.03 | sag_ich_nicht | fuck CTRA |
| 18:46.06 | sag_ich_nicht | fuck oRA2 |
| 18:46.07 | Kalroth | lol |
| 18:46.07 | Cide | agreed. |
| 18:46.08 | sag_ich_nicht | hail RDX |
| 18:46.09 | sag_ich_nicht | wait |
| 18:46.12 | Mr_Rabies2 | i can't even remember why i had ora installed now |
| 18:46.13 | sag_ich_nicht | RDX is dead |
| 18:46.19 | Mr_Rabies2 | i don't even know what features i use in ora |
| 18:46.20 | sag_ich_nicht | hail conspiracy |
| 18:46.21 | sag_ich_nicht | wait |
| 18:46.21 | Cide | Shirik|Ecole: you're dead to me |
| 18:46.28 | sag_ich_nicht | conspiracy is not done yet |
| 18:46.29 | Shirik|Ecole | ? |
| 18:46.29 | sag_ich_nicht | Cide |
| 18:46.30 | sag_ich_nicht | wait |
| 18:46.32 | Shirik|Ecole | ??! |
| 18:46.36 | Kalroth | hahah |
| 18:46.37 | sag_ich_nicht | did you just agree to "fuck CTRA"? |
| 18:46.43 | Mr_Rabies2 | i'd hit it |
| 18:46.53 | Cide | sag_ich_nicht: I would. |
| 18:47.11 | Mr_Rabies2 | ctra has a great ass |
| 18:47.12 | Kalroth | sag_ich_nicht: Well he's the one maintaining the code, so I guess that's why he agrees :P |
| 18:47.31 | Cide | meh, it's not that bad |
| 18:47.43 | Cide | if you wrote it |
| 18:48.07 | Kaydeethree | cog; lmao... hackit actually made an attempt to fix his post |
| 18:48.15 | Kalroth | True, but still, even 2.x wasn't a total rewrite or? |
| 18:48.28 | Cide | oh, nowhere close |
| 18:49.22 | Shirik|Ecole | Cide: What did I do? :( |
| 18:49.56 | Cide | Shirik|Ecole: dunno. I saw "<sag_ich_nicht> RDX is dead" and I was like "hey, that's shirik!" |
| 18:50.17 | sag_ich_nicht | Cide: RDX is dead, there is now conspiracy |
| 18:50.25 | Cide | I'm aware :) |
| 18:54.08 | Polarina | http://forums.wow-europe.com/thread.html?topicId=612225222&sid=1 |
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| 18:55.55 | clad|book | Polarina: why areoyu posting this |
| 18:56.01 | clad|book | its a known bug.. and you're TRYING to crash the wow client. |
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| 18:57.13 | Polarina | :) |
| 18:57.38 | alestane | I think Polarina was a goblin in a previous life. |
| 18:58.01 | clad|book | it doesn't make sense to take something from the bugfix page, and then pass it around ilke you have been (in irc, on the forums, etc).. |
| 18:58.03 | alestane | Whatever you do, don't bring her a samophlange. |
| 18:58.07 | clad|book | I can hard lock the wow client with while true do end |
| 18:58.14 | clad|book | it doesn't make it a bug, or something that actually matters |
| 18:59.02 | Polarina | clad|book: That wouldn't crash it. |
| 19:00.02 | clad|book | no it would hard lock it |
| 19:00.06 | clad|book | as i said, i never said it would crash it. |
| 19:00.10 | clad|book | similar net effect. |
| 19:01.41 | Polarina | But my code does crash it! |
| 19:02.01 | sag_ich_nicht | that is not "your code" |
| 19:02.14 | clad|book | that is being a script kiddie |
| 19:02.21 | Polarina | My code = the code I used. |
| 19:02.25 | clad|book | *sigh* |
| 19:02.33 | clad|book | yes, its a known stack overflow |
| 19:02.36 | clad|book | stop exploiting it |
| 19:02.39 | clad|book | and stop spreading it |
| 19:02.42 | Polarina | :( |
| 19:02.46 | clad|book | i'll make sure slouken is aware of the patch |
| 19:03.19 | sag_ich_nicht | i shouldn't grep -R .\*_CHANGEME_.\* * as root, in the root. |
| 19:03.23 | Polarina | How? |
| 19:03.40 | sag_ich_nicht | somehow |
| 19:03.57 | sag_ich_nicht | you don't have to know everything, now do you? :P |
| 19:04.02 | Polarina | I need to! |
| 19:04.44 | sag_ich_nicht | that might very well be the case, but you don't HAVE to |
| 19:04.45 | sag_ich_nicht | :P |
| 19:05.07 | Polarina | I want to. |
| 19:06.36 | sag_ich_nicht | cute. |
| 19:09.17 | Shirik|Ecole | Polarina: Btw |
| 19:09.29 | Shirik|Ecole | by definition, a crash is the OS shutting down a program to stop damage |
| 19:09.49 | Shirik|Ecole | access violations (segfaults), stack overflows, they're all caused by the OS notiing a problem and preventing damage |
| 19:09.59 | Shirik|Ecole | (or in some cases, the CPU, which was instructed by the OS to prevent it) |
| 19:10.12 | alestane | Polarina: While I definitely understand the impulse to get your fingers into something and understand its and outs (including where it breaks), reporting known issues isn't helpful and in the wrong circumstances could be misused rather like the incidents with the cross-server item links in arenas. Remember: 9 out of 10 goblins' last words are "What happens if I do this?" |
| 19:10.56 | Shirik|Ecole | oh also Polarina |
| 19:10.58 | Shirik|Ecole | it's Lua's stack |
| 19:11.02 | Shirik|Ecole | But Lua has a C stack |
| 19:11.59 | Shirik|Ecole | where does the V come from in SIGSEGV anyway? |
| 19:12.14 | Mr_Rabies2 | VROOOOOM |
| 19:12.21 | clad|book | violation imo? |
| 19:12.30 | Shirik|Ecole | maybe |
| 19:12.31 | alestane | Is it a five? |
| 19:12.33 | clad|book | SIGnal SEGmentation Violation? |
| 19:12.35 | Shirik|Ecole | segmentation violation? |
| 19:12.37 | clad|book | i'm guessing :P |
| 19:12.51 | clad|book | it makes sense, since you're violating the code segment |
| 19:12.54 | Shirik|Ecole | yeah |
| 19:14.13 | Shirik|Ecole | anyway, off to class |
| 19:14.14 | Shirik|Ecole | take care |
| 19:14.40 | JoshBorke | byebye |
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| 19:17.39 | Anvilator | Is it possible to display a variable using FontString in a layer i.e. <FontString name="$parent_Fire" inherits="GameFontNormal" text="MyVariableInHere"> ? |
| 19:18.49 | alestane | You can have a frame that sets a FontString to a variable on update. |
| 19:19.06 | art3mis | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=965514297&postId=13713620550&sid=1#56 wheee last post |
| 19:19.55 | Lopeppeppy | You're a sick puppy, art3mis. *laugh* |
| 19:20.03 | art3mis | thanks! |
| 19:21.11 | cog|work | art3mis: you should announce it on General >< |
| 19:21.26 | art3mis | haha good idea! |
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| 19:21.37 | alestane | There but for the grace... |
| 19:21.54 | clad|book | Anvilator: not in XML, you can name the fontstring and then set it in the OnLoad script |
| 19:22.21 | cog|work | yes you can, actually |
| 19:22.35 | clad|book | can ya? |
| 19:22.36 | clad|book | neat! |
| 19:22.38 | cog|work | The text attribute will firs search for an already-defined global |
| 19:22.45 | clad|book | tricksy hobbits |
| 19:22.47 | Anvilator | 1 sec on phone |
| 19:22.57 | clad|book | will it expand $parent tho? |
| 19:23.07 | cog|work | irrelevant imo |
| 19:23.18 | cog|work | l2r :P |
| 19:23.37 | clad|book | so it is :P |
| 19:23.41 | art3mis | hehe posted in general ;P |
| 19:25.19 | cog|work | :) |
| 19:25.41 | Anvilator | Back sry, ok so cog, if I have a Variable defined, what would the syntax be for the FontString please? |
| 19:25.54 | cog|work | just put the variable's name in as text |
| 19:26.08 | alestane | First response says, "My head asplode"...given his spelling we may be doing him a favor putting him out of his misery. |
| 19:26.15 | Industrial | art3mis: ZMOGHELLOKITTAYBUTTINS!!11oneone |
| 19:26.27 | Anvilator | Thanks cog, off to play with that now. |
| 19:26.28 | cog|work | but the variable has to be defined before the fontstring is processed (either by putting your Lua in your ToC before the XML or by defining it in a <Script>) |
| 19:26.41 | art3mis | http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/story/RTGAM.20070905.wtoryrelig0905/BNStory/National/home |
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| 19:29.34 | Anvilator | Actually, while I'm here, what I'm trying to achieve is just to display on a Frame the value of someones current +Fire Damage. Maybe im going about it in a more complex way than i need to? |
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| 19:35.13 | ScytheBlade1 | That's retarded... 1&1 has no way to purchase a domain for more than a year in advance |
| 19:35.34 | alestane | art3mis: For some reson you've been bumped from General to Off-topic. |
| 19:35.36 | ScytheBlade1 | Their solution was "transfer to another registrar" |
| 19:35.37 | ScytheBlade1 | wtf |
| 19:35.44 | Anvilator | Awesome, thanks cog. Used the lua in the toc, and it works a treat. |
| 19:35.58 | art3mis | bastards! |
| 19:37.41 | cog|work | i think it was the title |
| 19:37.54 | cog|work | I was going to recommend you change it but i got distracted |
| 19:38.08 | cog|work | you have no idea how many "hello kitty island adventure" posts they get there each wee k:( |
| 19:38.19 | cog|work | s/ k:/k :/ |
| 19:38.49 | alestane | Aw, before the correction it looked like a funny hair-bow. |
| 19:40.26 | |Jelly| | !c us burning legion Wanahokalugy |
| 19:40.29 | ThraeBot | |Jelly|: Wanahokalugy, Level 45 Tauren Warrior (24/5/7). 2949 HP; 3032 Armour; 417 AP; 70.1 Melee DPS; 12.71% melee crit; 7.23% dodge; 5.8% block; 10 nature resist (+10);[[ TBR: 362 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/yrbxhm ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/2mknml ][ Updated: Wed Sep 5 15:51:58 2007 ]] |
| 19:43.46 | cog|work | yummy new ipod |
| 19:43.59 | cog|work | http://money.cnn.com/2007/09/05/technology/apple_announcement/?postversion=2007090514 |
| 19:44.31 | |Jelly| | "cuts iPhone price by $200." <-- i like that part |
| 19:44.40 | cog|work | ya rly |
| 19:45.42 | art3mis | <-- starts argument with forum mod about the definition of "general" |
| 19:47.11 | AnduinLothar | iPod Nano, eh? |
| 19:47.23 | AnduinLothar | looks like a mini ipod now |
| 19:47.30 | AnduinLothar | with vids |
| 19:47.34 | art3mis | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=1371643585&postId=13713620941&sid=1#3 |
| 19:47.36 | art3mis | heh |
| 19:48.32 | |Jelly| | rofl |
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| 19:51.14 | alestane | Just keep in mind you're arguing with an umpire. |
| 19:51.57 | art3mis | hahaha |
| 19:52.00 | art3mis | read his last post |
| 19:52.12 | art3mis | appearantly my hk ui compilation doesnt relate to world of warcraft |
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| 19:56.01 | art3mis | the best aprt about that is that the mod comments in the present thread just give it more reason to read it ;P |
| 19:56.13 | cog|work | green is not mod... |
| 19:56.16 | cog|work | it's just MVP |
| 19:56.16 | art3mis | so really he's helping my case and not making a very good one for his reasoning for moving it ;P |
| 19:56.25 | sag_ich_nicht | wow |
| 19:56.26 | art3mis | same diff |
| 19:56.35 | cog|work | big diff, actually... |
| 19:56.35 | art3mis | for it being moved rather |
| 19:56.38 | sag_ich_nicht | i stumble upon a bug in debian that has been there for 6 years and is still not fixed. |
| 19:56.46 | sioraiocht | sag_ich_nicht: what is it? |
| 19:57.10 | cog|work | MVPs have no authority, only much knowledge |
| 19:57.11 | sag_ich_nicht | PAM writting "you have newmail" upon login instead of "you have new mail" if you use Maildir as mailstorage instead of mbox |
| 19:57.28 | sag_ich_nicht | unless i am missing some awesome workaround or something, that is |
| 19:58.04 | art3mis | im not totally sure why people seem to think i care if i get a forum vacation ;P |
| 19:58.15 | art3mis | oh no! i cant talk on the forums that i rarely use anyways! |
| 19:58.35 | sioraiocht | sag_ich_nicht: that's annoying |
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| 19:59.58 | art3mis | well now i wanna see my banned popup |
| 20:00.10 | alestane | "Goddamn I hate Microsoft Word/It's hard to get by when it messes with your life, yeah" |
| 20:00.28 | alestane | (To the tune of It's a Wide World by Cat Stevens) |
| 20:00.38 | zenzelezz | isn't it Wild? |
| 20:01.32 | Intangir | whats the PN mean in RTFPN? |
| 20:01.44 | zenzelezz | patch notes |
| 20:02.06 | Intangir | oh |
| 20:02.33 | alestane | art3mis: Your thread has been bumped out of off-topic into UI & Macros, which is at least an appropriate place for it. |
| 20:02.47 | alestane | Damn shame all of us there already new about it. |
| 20:02.59 | alestane | s/new/knew/ |
| 20:03.32 | Intangir | knew about what? |
| 20:03.40 | Lunessa | alestane: Parodies of Cat Stevens erans you +100 Lunessa Rep |
| 20:04.17 | sag_ich_nicht | [21:58] <sioraiocht> sag_ich_nicht: that's annoying <--as hell |
| 20:04.29 | alestane | apologies, the song is properly called "Wild World." |
| 20:05.50 | alestane | But I am perpetually frustrated by Word's tendency to decide it knows better than I do what I'm trying to do. |
| 20:06.14 | alestane | Lunessa: Is that because you like, or dislike, the original? |
| 20:06.14 | sioraiocht | alestane: that's why you just shouldn't use it |
| 20:06.40 | alestane | sioraiocht: Workplace policy, hands are tied. |
| 20:06.48 | sioraiocht | figured, that sucks |
| 20:06.54 | sioraiocht | if I ever run an office |
| 20:06.58 | Lunessa | alestane: I like Cat Stevens and I like parody. /shrug/ |
| 20:07.00 | sioraiocht | LaTeX will be the workplace policy |
| 20:07.26 | art3mis | alestane: but the complaint post is STILL in general and im STILL not banned ;P |
| 20:07.41 | art3mis | go go gadget cogwheel! |
| 20:07.45 | alestane | Lunessa: Somewhere, someplace, I have that whole parody song..."Microsoft Word" |
| 20:08.02 | alestane | art3mis: Is it a good idea to push your luck though? |
| 20:08.12 | art3mis | for a forum ban? |
| 20:08.36 | art3mis | i havent broken the tos, or the eula, they cant ban my characters for anything that ive said or argued |
| 20:08.46 | art3mis | well i mean the "could" cuz its thier game and all |
| 20:08.58 | art3mis | but from a pseudo legal point they'd be unjustified ;P |
| 20:09.00 | alestane | Actually your repost thread has been deleted. |
| 20:09.01 | cog|work | no, they can't ban your gameplay for forum violations |
| 20:09.26 | art3mis | awww |
| 20:09.40 | art3mis | that was short lived amusemen |
| 20:09.41 | art3mis | t |
| 20:09.41 | cog|work | looks like they moved it from OT to UI & Macros at least ... /shrug |
| 20:11.02 | art3mis | and iw as gonna point out that while pvp and the mechanic were wow related people whining that they cant play thier class and always lose is NOT related to wow general because the end user is not directly supported for performance by blizz ;) |
| 20:13.10 | Thunder_Child | ~scream |
| 20:13.10 | purl | aaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhh!!! |
| 20:13.30 | alestane | Yeth? |
| 20:13.41 | Thunder_Child | just dealing with old people |
| 20:21.43 | |Jelly| | [G] <Beauman>: lol at dwarf hunters *hugs Shirik* |
| 20:22.49 | Lunessa | http://xkcd.com/ |
| 20:24.02 | alestane | They got the rhyme-scheme right anyway. |
| 20:24.33 | art3mis | heh the hover over is funny too |
| 20:24.45 | sioraiocht | i enjoy the comic before the most recent one |
| 20:25.38 | alestane | Yay for Firefly references in Papyrus font. |
| 20:25.42 | sioraiocht | although, i feel ike every intro to CS class should have this one: http://www.xkcd.com/292/ |
| 20:26.15 | alestane | Gotos get you eaten by dinosaurs? |
| 20:26.32 | sioraiocht | in anything besides assembly, they should |
| 20:26.41 | alestane | IF and GOTO are the only two real control strucutres. |
| 20:27.06 | alestane | And no, I don't actually code with them. |
| 20:27.09 | krka | no, it's iteration and selection |
| 20:27.33 | sioraiocht | actually JMP is more primitive than IF |
| 20:28.20 | alestane | Or depending on what assembly you're talking about, there's only one real control structure: "BRANCH IF" |
| 20:28.58 | sioraiocht | alestane: if you use gotos in C, though, you deserve to have a velociraptor eat your face |
| 20:29.15 | alestane | At least if anyone else has to maintain your code. |
| 20:30.17 | alestane | I forget, can C gotos cross scope? |
| 20:33.08 | alestane | But yes, in higher-level programming languages, there's simply no real situation where a goto is preferable to a more evolved control structure, unless you're trying to win the Obfuscated C contest, and whether that's a real situation is debatable. |
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| 20:34.34 | zenzelezz | 6/8 T5 pants Champion so far |
| 20:38.03 | Cidan | hmm |
| 20:38.10 | Cidan | restructure an entire program, or use goto |
| 20:38.13 | Cidan | hmm |
| 20:38.16 | zenzelezz | you bastard |
| 20:38.19 | zenzelezz | how can you mention the G word |
| 20:38.25 | Cidan | I'd restructure |
| 20:38.29 | Cidan | that's just me. |
| 20:38.37 | kergoth | goto is actually good to use in _one_ situation in C. and thats in error handling in initailization |
| 20:38.40 | Cidan | because one go to, leads to another, and another |
| 20:38.42 | kergoth | its used in linux kerneld rivers quite a bit for that |
| 20:38.47 | bleeter | nothing wrong with a correctly placed goto |
| 20:38.57 | bleeter | yeah, check your kernel drivers |
| 20:38.58 | kergoth | makes it easy to undo a failure partially through a number of initialization steps |
| 20:39.00 | alestane | in C++, however, we have real exception handling. |
| 20:39.06 | zenzelezz | the problem is they're so easy to misuse (gotos) |
| 20:42.11 | alestane | Gah, I never programmed Lisp but my first CS class was in Scheme...blarg. |
| 20:42.53 | art3mis | hey ale |
| 20:43.01 | art3mis | what font is that in the colorful ui thread? |
| 20:43.11 | art3mis | is that the comic one? |
| 20:43.48 | alestane | Don't know fonts really, but that one seems pretty popular, seen it in a bunch of screenshots. |
| 20:46.17 | alestane | Once, in a distant age, I knew what "NP-complete" meant...but then I finished college. |
| 20:47.12 | Intangir | ive programmed in C/C++ for about 10 years now, and ive never used a single goto |
| 20:47.26 | Cide | of course you haven't |
| 20:47.29 | Cide | you're still alive |
| 20:47.54 | Cide | (see http://www.xkcd.com/292/, as was linked before) |
| 20:48.19 | art3mis | that needs to be a tshirt and poster |
| 20:48.39 | art3mis | i swear aside from it's science bitches and stand back im doing science, it's one of the best |
| 20:48.48 | Cide | I like the regex one |
| 20:49.20 | art3mis | which? |
| 20:49.27 | alestane | Don't know if I found that one yet. |
| 20:49.51 | Intangir | i want to see its science bitches |
| 20:49.54 | Intangir | and stand back im doing science ;) |
| 20:49.58 | bleeter | ever used switch? you're using a goto! :P |
| 20:50.02 | Cide | it's the comic that inspired the "stand back I'm doing science" t-shirt |
| 20:50.11 | art3mis | int their on the shopping paeg |
| 20:50.15 | Cide | http://xkcd.com/208/ |
| 20:50.32 | Intangir | bleeter: ya but its less frowned upon ;) |
| 20:50.39 | Intangir | and only if you break |
| 20:50.51 | art3mis | oh Science, it works bitches! |
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| 20:53.53 | art3mis | yay! |
| 20:54.03 | art3mis | im getting that shirt for my birthday! |
| 20:54.18 | art3mis | hehe mentioned it as an idea for pressies to wife and she got all upset ;P |
| 20:54.42 | alestane | switch is only slightly more a goto than a for or while statement is. |
| 20:57.35 | art3mis | sweet |
| 20:57.44 | art3mis | HK has a 5 star rating so far on wowi ;P |
| 20:58.20 | Kaydeethree | wtf |
| 21:00.25 | art3mis | hah suck it kay! |
| 21:00.28 | art3mis | the evil spreads! |
| 21:00.43 | Kaydeethree | the mod-using community has collectively lost its mind |
| 21:01.06 | Intangir | switch, for and while are not gotos |
| 21:01.09 | Intangir | break is like a goto |
| 21:01.15 | Intangir | continue is like a goto, but not the others |
| 21:01.25 | alestane | Kaydeethree: You refer to thUI, or something else? |
| 21:01.37 | Kaydeethree | [16:57:44] <art3mis> HK has a 5 star rating so far on wowi ;P |
| 21:01.52 | Intangir | whats HK? |
| 21:02.33 | Intangir | and where is wowi ;) |
| 21:02.37 | Intangir | i never been here before |
| 21:03.30 | Kaydeethree | HK is "Hello Kitty", wowi is http://www.wowinterface.com/ |
| 21:04.11 | ScytheBlade1 | Trying to teach the bots? ;) |
| 21:04.13 | ScytheBlade1 | ~HK |
| 21:04.13 | purl | i guess hk is the abbreviation of Hong Kong Special Administration Region of China |
| 21:04.18 | ScytheBlade1 | Nope, not yet. |
| 21:04.33 | Kaydeethree | nah, scroll up |
| 21:04.39 | ScytheBlade1 | I know |
| 21:04.50 | ScytheBlade1 | But if you say it in that form enough, the bots will learn :P |
| 21:05.15 | mikma | art3mis: you made it for the ladies ;) |
| 21:05.25 | Intangir | coolest addon ive used lately is cartographer with quest objectives, and a quest objective database with like ALL the quests |
| 21:05.29 | Intangir | thats freaking sweet ;) |
| 21:06.03 | mikma | yeah that must be light too Oo |
| 21:07.12 | Kaydeethree | wow... http://andrewsullivan.theatlantic.com/photos/uncategorized/2007/09/04/lego.jpg |
| 21:08.22 | alestane | That's brain-breaking. |
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| 21:09.05 | alestane | What I wantto know is how they're walking on the sides with no pips. |
| 21:09.46 | Cairenn|afk | glue |
| 21:11.01 | Kaydeethree | source for that pic: http://www.andrewlipson.com/escher/relativity.html |
| 21:11.17 | alestane | Well, from the photographer's point of view, sure, but within the concept domain, "pips side up" is as much of a fundamental to lego people as gravity is to you and me. |
| 21:11.45 | Thunder_Child | love esher |
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| 21:12.19 | Thunder_Child | s/esher/escher/ |
| 21:12.27 | Cairenn|afk | that picture always gives me a headache |
| 21:12.49 | Thunder_Child | at one point i even managed to draw some of his stuff |
| 21:13.28 | cog|work | i did a simple version of escher's staircase in drafting class once |
| 21:15.03 | Kaydeethree | this guy's done other stuff too, like ascending and descending |
| 21:17.27 | Thunder_Child | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hhfhgbmZe9s |
| 21:21.32 | Mr_Rabies2 | ah i love when people list stuff for less than vendor price on the AH |
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| 21:22.15 | bleeter | Mr_Rabies2: me too ;) |
| 21:23.58 | bleeter | you'll find the trade goods that drop below vendor are pretty common across all realms, too |
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| 21:29.50 | alestane | http://www.xkcd.com/224/ |
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| 21:38.27 | cog|work | If you saw the following headline, what is the first characteristic you would assume about the child? "Math prodigy, 9, says university too easy" |
| 21:38.43 | clad|book | asian |
| 21:38.46 | clad|book | ;-) |
| 21:38.46 | Kaydeethree | ^ |
| 21:38.47 | cog|work | win |
| 21:38.54 | cog|work | http://www.reuters.com/article/oddlyEnoughNews/idUSHKG32898520070905?feedType=RSS&feedName=oddlyEnoughNews |
| 21:39.27 | art3mis | waltzing through his first day at university saying classes were too easy. |
| 21:39.34 | art3mis | all first days are easy ;) |
| 21:39.44 | Kaydeethree | not in high-level CS |
| 21:40.01 | *** join/#wowi-lounge amro_ (n=amro@82.101.184.165) |
| 21:40.15 | Kaydeethree | "Hi everyone, hope you had a good summer. Here's your first project, it's due next Monday." |
| 21:40.25 | art3mis | and going to school early and being super smart didnt hurt dougie houser! |
| 21:40.36 | Elkano | cog, I would have said so, too, but I knew that case ^^ |
| 21:40.43 | art3mis | thats still not work required for the first day ;P |
| 21:41.04 | Kaydeethree | sure it is, when the profs all go into lectures over the new material we're expected to include in said project |
| 21:41.35 | art3mis | "have a nice sumemr? great, write a 5000 word essay on the decline of socialism in the eastern bloc and it's effects on global economics, you have 1 hour. go!" |
| 21:41.54 | art3mis | THAT would be a shit first day ;P |
| 21:42.11 | Kaydeethree | there's evil, then there's "screw this, I'm dropping." |
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| 21:42.34 | art3mis | heh |
| 21:43.07 | art3mis | but mostly first days are wander around, find the classes, do some bullshit review, learn a bit of new stuff |
| 21:43.35 | Valaron|Work | Wee! I just accidently disconnected the network cable to my file server. |
| 21:43.40 | AnduinLothar | is there a 20 slot bag? |
| 21:43.50 | art3mis | its not as though his first day entailed doing course subject matter he learned 15 mins ago in the form of a test thast 30% of your final grade |
| 21:44.02 | Kaydeethree | yes. something like 4+ primal mooncloth to make |
| 21:44.12 | art3mis | yeah primal moonbags |
| 21:44.37 | art3mis | it's 32 days cooldown if yer not a moon tailor |
| 21:44.38 | Kaydeethree | http://www.wowhead.com/?item=21876 |
| 21:44.54 | Kaydeethree | bah. 8 primal, not 4 |
| 21:45.42 | Thunder_Child | http://flash.popphoto.com/blog/2007/09/imagine-a-photo.html |
| 21:46.02 | Thunder_Child | "three stories high by eleven stories wide" thats a big pic |
| 21:47.12 | cog|work | But can you see the big picture? |
| 21:47.31 | Thunder_Child | nope |
| 21:47.53 | Thunder_Child | or rather there is no head on picture of the...picture |
| 21:48.54 | Thunder_Child | ah...doesnt go on desplay till tomorrow http://www.legacyphotoproject.com/ |
| 21:52.38 | art3mis | does skinner work decently? |
| 21:53.05 | art3mis | was debating chanigng all the default blizz stuff like quest frame character frame etc etc etc to go with HK |
| 21:53.29 | art3mis | Kaydeethree: its relaly only 4 cooldowns though since as a moon tailor you make 2 per |
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| 21:53.39 | Kaydeethree | ya |
| 21:54.54 | art3mis | the primals are the most expensive part of making em too ;) |
| 21:56.45 | Kaydeethree | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=1371603503&sid=1 |
| 21:58.14 | cog|work | yay for being asleep during that time :P |
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| 22:00.30 | bleeter | rofl |
| 22:00.44 | bleeter | the wine sound bug thread has turned into a Vista SP1 MS test thread |
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| 22:00.58 | bleeter | some kinda confirmation from MS that they're gunna test against SP1 |
| 22:01.35 | amro | oh the irony |
| 22:03.24 | clad|book | Does anyone know what the third parameter to <OnClick> is? It's called down |
| 22:04.25 | cog|work | is it a flag indicating whether the click type was mouse down or mouse up? |
| 22:04.41 | clad|book | not sure, that's what i'm exploring |
| 22:05.10 | clad|book | yep |
| 22:05.22 | clad|book | its its false when you /click |
| 22:10.35 | Lunessa | Hey cog|work - overall, what's the best car? |
| 22:10.55 | Kaydeethree | bleeter: no freaking joke |
| 22:10.57 | cog|work | Delorean |
| 22:11.10 | |Jelly| | cog|work: BLASPHEMY! |
| 22:12.48 | Kaydeethree | wow... I've never seen this before: http://img525.imageshack.us/img525/5282/dontmesswithadalqm0.jpg |
| 22:12.56 | Kaydeethree | A'dal's got one hell of a melee swing |
| 22:13.12 | |Jelly| | wow |
| 22:13.39 | cog|work | That would nearly wipe an entire kara group in one hit... |
| 22:13.47 | cog|work | or probably would depending on gear |
| 22:14.09 | bleeter | ouch |
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| 22:14.18 | |Jelly| | He killed me 16.89 times in one hit. |
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| 22:15.11 | |Jelly| | LFRP = Looking for role play ? |
| 22:15.13 | Kaydeethree | >>>114952/7600 |
| 22:15.13 | Cide | Kaydeethree: 15.125263157895 |
| 22:16.32 | cog|work | < 10 times for me in tank gear :P |
| 22:17.33 | Cidan | LFAMDTBHACW |
| 22:17.35 | Cidan | PST. |
| 22:17.57 | cog|work | O.O |
| 22:18.04 | Cidan | what? |
| 22:18.23 | cog|work | exactly... |
| 22:18.26 | mikma | btw.. that's a common melee in TBC boss |
| 22:18.33 | Cidan | What, it's not obvious? |
| 22:18.34 | mikma | try the elementals in Nagrand |
| 22:18.51 | Cidan | Looking for a million dollars to buy hookers and crack with, PST. |
| 22:18.56 | mikma | try hitting opposite faction near the earth-elemental |
| 22:18.56 | Cidan | duh. |
| 22:18.59 | mikma | it hits for 100k too |
| 22:19.31 | cog|work | Cidan: you fail at clarity |
| 22:19.42 | mikma | oh, gotta go test it now |
| 22:19.45 | Cidan | :( |
| 22:19.49 | Kaydeethree | even at the armor cap, that's still 25k damage a swing... how do you handle that? |
| 22:20.08 | |Jelly| | With 50khp...duh |
| 22:20.13 | mikma | :D |
| 22:20.15 | cog|work | and you ended it with a preposition :P |
| 22:20.55 | Cidan | oh shut up, :P |
| 22:24.02 | mikma | let's see do i get lucky with horde |
| 22:24.11 | Cidan | Would you believe that General is pretty much the only forum I read? |
| 22:24.19 | |Jelly| | ... |
| 22:24.20 | Cidan | cog|work, shut up. |
| 22:24.25 | |Jelly| | And you haven't slashed your wrists yet? |
| 22:24.58 | Kaydeethree | gen's fun |
| 22:25.07 | Cidan | It is, by far the most. |
| 22:25.33 | Kaydeethree | just carry a healthy attitude of schadenfreude |
| 22:25.51 | mikma | gah, no horde around :( can't test this |
| 22:26.20 | Cidan | I wonder |
| 22:26.27 | |Jelly| | Bunch of masochists we have here. |
| 22:26.43 | Cidan | if I type the letter "k" as horde, it will show up as a certain letter to alliance, right? |
| 22:26.50 | Cidan | is that letter always the same? |
| 22:26.59 | kergoth | anyone know if sorrentimers/cooldowntimers2 are being maintained atm? |
| 22:27.06 | Cidan | :( |
| 22:27.08 | zenzelezz | ss ee oo d a p |
| 22:27.10 | Kaydeethree | yes. but a few other letters may map to whatever k turns in to |
| 22:27.11 | zenzelezz | or something |
| 22:27.18 | Cidan | ah, I see. |
| 22:27.22 | Cidan | Still. |
| 22:27.31 | Cidan | so I can have two letters |
| 22:27.35 | Cidan | k and h, or whatever |
| 22:27.39 | cog|work | cross-faction communication is bannable |
| 22:27.49 | Cidan | Psh, just a theory |
| 22:28.24 | Cidan | Simple morse code system ftw, I suppose. |
| 22:28.27 | |Jelly| | yay. Tapestry messaged me back! |
| 22:28.41 | mikma | http://www.wowhead.com/?npc=18099#comments |
| 22:28.45 | |Jelly| | Yes. This makes me happy enough to say something about it. |
| 22:28.52 | mikma | comment nr.1: Don't attack anyone near him or you will get owned, I got hit for 62k.... rofl |
| 22:29.02 | mikma | comment nr.3: 141k here :p |
| 22:29.02 | zenzelezz | you have talking tapestry? |
| 22:29.17 | |Jelly| | mikma: 1 holy fire and he was down. Not really all that hard. :P |
| 22:29.27 | |Jelly| | Yeah. But only when I take the blue pills. |
| 22:29.41 | mikma | |Jelly|: 6500 life or so but hits like... well, worldboss |
| 22:30.09 | |Jelly| | mikma: Like I said. One holy fire. I don't even NEED dps gear. |
| 22:30.19 | |Jelly| | That's just how I roll. |
| 22:30.23 | mikma | he bitchslapped me once for 80k :P |
| 22:30.38 | |Jelly| | Hmm. |
| 22:30.42 | |Jelly| | L2own imo. :P |
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| 22:31.43 | mikma | yeah, my friend told me not to attack horde there. well, one horde was returning quest for him and i slapped him with my staff (just because i'm like every other finnish man, what you don't see didn't happen)... ouch. |
| 22:32.45 | zenzelezz | I remember I was handing in a quest to Nathos Blightcaller once on my horde when alliance were preparing to kill him... someone wanted to gank me and came too close, so he killed all 20 of them |
| 22:33.12 | Kaydeethree | standing next to blightcaller's a fun place to be as horde |
| 22:33.18 | mikma | [Gordawg] Melee [You] 56360 |
| 22:33.42 | zenzelezz | >>> 56360*.25 |
| 22:33.42 | Cide | zenzelezz: 14090 |
| 22:33.59 | zenzelezz | pfft, give me a few mages and I can tank that one hit until they get him down |
| 22:34.35 | mikma | and he didn't evne crit me :( |
| 22:34.43 | Kaydeethree | >>>56360/0.25 |
| 22:34.43 | Cide | Kaydeethree: 225440 |
| 22:35.21 | zenzelezz | were you already using SHield Wall? |
| 22:35.44 | mikma | if you're talking to me, i was unbuffed unshielded. |
| 22:36.06 | mikma | and my char uses cloth |
| 22:36.28 | Kaydeethree | >>>56360/0.75 |
| 22:36.28 | Cide | Kaydeethree: 75146.666666667 |
| 22:36.57 | zenzelezz | I'm puzzled by what you're trying to find out Kay |
| 22:37.46 | Kaydeethree | trying to figure out what the unmitigated damage would be |
| 22:37.58 | Kaydeethree | !c us medivh kaydeethree |
| 22:38.01 | ThraeBot | Kaydeethree: Kaydeethree, Level 70 Gnome Mage (10/48/3). 7803 HP; 10331 Mana; 194 mana regen; 204 spell crit; 108 spell hit; 768 +spell dmg/heal; 5.38% dodge; 10 arcane resist (+10);[[ TBR: 740 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/24avdz ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/3dpglx ][ Updated: Wed Sep 5 18:49:32 2007 ]] |
| 22:38.31 | mikma | well, go and test :D |
| 22:38.50 | mikma | take your stuff off and attack someone |
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| 22:41.38 | mikma | WOO! |
| 22:41.54 | mikma | [Gordawg] Melee [You] 106843 |
| 22:42.03 | mikma | this was without any armor |
| 22:42.21 | mikma | and he still didn't crit |
| 22:46.13 | art3mis | bah are there any addons that skin all the default blizz frames? |
| 22:46.45 | mikma | skinner, files.wowace.com |
| 22:46.53 | art3mis | doesnt work worth shit |
| 22:46.57 | cog|work | T King's, but they prob won't work for new interfaces (like soketing) |
| 22:46.59 | art3mis | and there's no documentation |
| 22:47.43 | cog|work | art3mis: if all you want is a new skin, you don't need an addon... Just replacement art for every single BLP used in the UI |
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| 22:54.50 | Shirik | |Jelly|: T_T |
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| 23:04.35 | |Jelly| | Shirik: ? |
| 23:05.05 | Shirik | _________________________________________________ |
| 23:05.05 | Shirik | 14(1611:2111:0614) 14(1115|Jelly|14) [G] <Beauman>: lol at dwarf hunters *hugs Shirik* |
| 23:05.05 | Shirik | 14[#wowi-lounge14] - 14[05/09/200714] |
| 23:05.05 | Shirik | ¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯ |
| 23:05.16 | |Jelly| | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:05.25 | Shirik | is ok I don't play him anymore anyway |
| 23:05.41 | Industrial | gief |
| 23:05.51 | Industrial | :E |
| 23:05.53 | |Jelly| | That makes me sad, Shirik. |
| 23:05.57 | Shirik | ? |
| 23:06.08 | |Jelly| | You don't play the MIGHTY SHIRIK anymore. |
| 23:06.13 | Industrial | yes, me too. you should give him to me so hell be happy. |
| 23:06.13 | Cide | does anyone have access to a pgsql server? |
| 23:06.15 | Shirik | I play the mighty kimi :P |
| 23:07.29 | cog|work | You know what pisses me off? On the one hand people bitch and moan about how many things Windows doesn't have in the default install, and then those same people bitch and moan about anti-competitiveness when it does start including said things... |
| 23:10.22 | Lunessa | cog|work: Some people just want to bitch and complain. Like, oh, say me for example. |
| 23:13.53 | Shirik | and me |
| 23:14.12 | |Jelly| | http://youtube.com/watch?v=WIGrIfIj6aY |
| 23:14.36 | art3mis | cog|work: who would i go about changing the character frame(as asociated) questlog, menus, gossips etc ? |
| 23:14.39 | art3mis | err how |
| 23:15.00 | cog|work | SetTexture |
| 23:15.13 | cog|work | just make new textures for their components and modify them after they load |
| 23:16.07 | cog|work | or if you want to replace everything in the default UI, just make new textures for everything and plop it into the corresponding folder |
| 23:16.11 | cog|work | no addon needed |
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| 23:16.47 | art3mis | you did but that doest help me ;P |
| 23:17.12 | cog|work | how doesn't it help? |
| 23:17.32 | art3mis | well cuz i dont know the corresponding or any lua programming ;P |
| 23:17.37 | art3mis | which is why im reading ;P |
| 23:17.42 | cog|work | Use the UI extractor to get all the current files and place new ones in the corresponding Interface locations... |
| 23:17.55 | cog|work | or look at T King's skins on wowi |
| 23:18.02 | cog|work | to see how it's done |
| 23:18.11 | art3mis | thats what im doing at present |
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| 23:19.44 | cog|work | planning a massive hello kitty? ;) |
| 23:20.17 | art3mis | hehe yeah wanna make all the blizz frames n stuff pink with flowers like from the bottom p[anel ;P |
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| 23:48.27 | art3mis | bah |
| 23:48.43 | art3mis | the tgz to blp2 on curse keep coring on me |
| 23:51.15 | Guillotine | coring? |
| 23:52.01 | art3mis | if i take a tga thats 64x64 24bit and drop it on the tga2blp2 convertor it errors and exits and doesnt convert it |
| 23:52.48 | norgs | I use the java one WowImage or something, it converts to/from png... ahh... png! |
| 23:53.48 | norgs | it also works on both my mac and pc, so double super extra bonus points from me |
| 23:53.59 | Guillotine | art3mis: tgz? not tga? |
| 23:54.10 | art3mis | yeah but i wanna replace the background texture from my tga to a readable blp by wow... |
| 23:54.18 | art3mis | graphics guill |
| 23:54.30 | art3mis | yeah i meant tga just noticed the typo ;P |
| 23:54.49 | norgs | everyone knew what you meant :) |
| 23:55.10 | Guillotine | art3mis: you know tgas are readable by WoW? |
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| 23:55.39 | art3mis | in theory |
| 23:55.46 | art3mis | skinner is irritating me ;) |
| 23:56.06 | art3mis | im trying a buncha stuff ;P |
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| 23:58.19 | Guillotine | just make sure the tga is an exponent of 2 in both dimensions |
| 23:59.40 | art3mis | thaanks norgs works great |
