| 00:00.23 | Corrodias | which may not happen because of how old it is |
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| 00:06.12 | Corrodias | do you-all know of an addon that will give me a quick way to delete items from my bags? |
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| 00:52.33 | ales|wow | Anyone here has substantial experience working with the event, UPDATE_SHAPESHIFT_FORMS? |
| 00:52.59 | Iriel_ | Isn't that the one fired when you get a new form? |
| 00:54.43 | Shirik | alestane: Be very careful |
| 00:54.43 | alestane | That's what I'm trying to check. |
| 00:54.55 | Shirik | UPDATE_SHAPESHIFT_FORMS and UPDATE_SHAPESHIFT_FORM both exist |
| 00:55.21 | Iriel_ | Are you sure Shirik ?? |
| 00:55.25 | Shirik | yes |
| 00:55.49 | alestane | The wiki says that it fires when the player changes his shape...but FrameXML seems to imply that it's used to set up the shapeshift bar. |
| 00:55.49 | Shirik | they do two different things though |
| 00:56.04 | Shirik | then someone may have made that mistake I just pointed out |
| 00:56.22 | Iriel_ | PLAYER_AURAS_CHANGED fires when you shift forms |
| 00:56.23 | alestane | I want the one that fires when the list of available shapeshift forms changes. |
| 00:56.23 | Shirik | I've come across that problem before |
| 00:56.28 | Shirik | that does too yes |
| 00:57.02 | Iriel_ | The WoW executable does contain both singular and plural as strings |
| 00:57.08 | Iriel_ | I'm not sure if both fire as events though |
| 00:57.51 | Iriel_ | Hm, apparently it does. |
| 00:58.09 | Iriel_ | So in that case i'd imagine the plural means 'I just got a form I didn't have before' and the singilar means 'I just changed form' |
| 00:58.15 | Shirik | that's what I understand |
| 01:00.56 | alestane | Do you know if it fires at load time? Or do I also have to trap PLAYER_ENTERING_WORLD? |
| 01:01.11 | Iriel_ | You pretty much always need to trap P_E_W |
| 01:01.28 | Iriel_ | The default UI does |
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| 01:02.39 | alestane | Question for anyone who's played a shadow priest with the stock UI...does shadowform give you a stance button above your regular action bar? |
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| 01:03.09 | Shirik | a stance button? |
| 01:03.17 | Shirik | like to go in and out of shadowform? |
| 01:03.18 | Shirik | iirc no |
| 01:03.29 | Shirik | but that was a LONG time ago |
| 01:03.52 | Wobwork | hehe |
| 01:03.58 | Wobwork | I've hidden the stance bar on my priest |
| 01:04.01 | Wobwork | I can't recall anymore |
| 01:05.10 | Iriel_ | I've not gotten a priest high enough to know but isn't shadowform just a buff? |
| 01:05.19 | JoshBorke | no |
| 01:05.21 | JoshBorke | it's a stance |
| 01:05.33 | JoshBorke | alestane: you want me to check real fast? |
| 01:05.47 | JoshBorke | i'm bored with pissing off shadowed |
| 01:05.54 | alestane | JoshBorke: If you could. |
| 01:05.58 | JoshBorke | alright |
| 01:06.20 | alestane | Just let me know if you get the button like stealth for a rogue. |
| 01:06.33 | JoshBorke | i'm pretty sure i won't |
| 01:07.01 | alestane | You know what, I just realized it doesn't matter. |
| 01:07.08 | JoshBorke | i hate you |
| 01:07.18 | alestane | Why, did you respec or something? |
| 01:08.08 | JoshBorke | no, because you just said it didn't matter |
| 01:08.13 | JoshBorke | so i don't need to log in at all |
| 01:08.40 | JoshBorke | ok, i'm in with the default wow bar |
| 01:08.44 | alestane | Well, my code soesn't need to know, but I'll admit to a curiosity if it makes you happier. |
| 01:08.56 | JoshBorke | no stance bar |
| 01:09.04 | alestane | No little button? |
| 01:09.08 | alestane | Okay. |
| 01:09.09 | JoshBorke | whether in shadowform or not |
| 01:09.24 | alestane | I just had to know if it treated it like stealth or not. |
| 01:09.50 | alestane | Your bar changes though, right? Your row of spells in page 1? |
| 01:11.38 | JoshBorke | erm |
| 01:12.05 | alestane | erm? |
| 01:12.10 | JoshBorke | let me check |
| 01:12.11 | JoshBorke | lol |
| 01:12.15 | JoshBorke | i'm pretty sure it can |
| 01:12.23 | JoshBorke | yea, it did |
| 01:12.27 | JoshBorke | with a sliding action and everything |
| 01:12.37 | alestane | k thanks. |
| 01:13.04 | JoshBorke | it appears to be actionbar 7 |
| 01:14.30 | JoshBorke | confirmed, it is 7 |
| 01:14.30 | alestane | Heh, just looking at the events that ShapeshiftBar reigsters for...PLAYER_ENTERING_WORLD, UPDATE_SHAPESHIFT_FORMS, SPELL_UPDATE_COOLDOWN, SPELL_UPDATE_USABLE, PLAYER_AURAS_CHANGED, ACTIONBAR_PAGE_CHANGED...and next to where it registers UPDATE_INVENTORY_ALERTS is a little note saying "-- Wha ??" |
| 01:18.26 | alestane | JoshBorke: That sliding action is the bane of my existence right now. |
| 01:18.52 | JoshBorke | alestane: lol. i never see it because i use bongos |
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| 01:21.25 | alestane | I'm writing a code proposal to reimplement the stock action bar using a secure state header, so that it will be easier to mod its behavior...I now have EVERYTHING done, except for support for that little slide. |
| 01:28.35 | JoshBorke | ~botmail for Shirik: CTL/ACE/DONGLE/ROCK/KHAOS RDX KTHXBAI!!!111ononone |
| 01:29.34 | Iriel_ | alestane: The secure state header really needs an animation subsystem, I figure when 3.0 starts bubbling I'll try and pitch one |
| 01:29.41 | JoshBorke | Shirik: i only pinged you in 1 channel |
| 01:30.23 | Wobwork | yeah Shirik |
| 01:30.23 | alestane | Iriel_: It has one (sort of) in the form of delaystates, but it's not pretty. |
| 01:30.49 | Iriel_ | That only gives you timed transitions, I meant more for layout control. |
| 01:30.53 | Iriel_ | Like the sliding, for example |
| 01:31.26 | ckknight | JoshBorke, dear lord, one thing I do like about Rock is that people will no longer think it's a damn acronym |
| 01:31.30 | ckknight | *shudder* |
| 01:31.44 | JoshBorke | dongle isn't an acronym and i put it in all caps |
| 01:31.53 | ckknight | yea, but it just reminded me |
| 01:31.58 | Wobwork | Joker was considered an acronym? |
| 01:32.20 | ckknight | no |
| 01:32.25 | ckknight | merely a joke |
| 01:32.43 | alestane | Iriel_: I don't actually need secure state support for my particular task, I just need a way to stop the action icons from changing their appearance until the 'slide' has run its course...a lot of trouble to go through for one class and one spec of one other class. |
| 01:33.54 | JoshBorke | alestane: you mean SPriests are the only class to get that sliding action? |
| 01:34.11 | alestane | JoshBorke: Rogues. |
| 01:34.34 | alestane | Rogues get it for going into and out of stealth. |
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| 01:35.01 | Shirik | I give up -_- |
| 01:35.28 | JoshBorke | ~botmail for shirik we love you shirik |
| 01:35.29 | alestane | Iriel_: You might like to see the code I added to SecureTemplates.lua to support states more widely: http://wowi.pastey.net/73356 |
| 01:35.35 | Chaotic_D | how do you powerlevel someone if you're not a healer? high level first aid? ;> |
| 01:35.51 | JoshBorke | you kill things for him? |
| 01:36.15 | Cidan | ~botmail for shirik Ping |
| 01:36.39 | Cidan | have them tap the mob, then you kill it? |
| 01:37.07 | ckknight | ~botmail for Shirik: Hey, Joshborke says he loves you, just so you know and all. |
| 01:37.09 | Chaotic_D | I thought grouping with a high level would kill your XP. I've... hardly ever grouped when I played my shaman that got to level 46. |
| 01:37.35 | Chaotic_D | so what determines who gets the XP? just the first hit? I thought it was the majority of the damage. |
| 01:37.41 | JoshBorke | majority of the damage |
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| 01:37.52 | JoshBorke | you have to do 50% of the damage in order to get full XP and they have to be ungrouped |
| 01:38.02 | Chaotic_D | so he has to pay attention and only kill things after I do over 50% of it's health. |
| 01:38.12 | JoshBorke | yea, it would be better if he just did all the quests for you |
| 01:38.24 | Cidan | don't... group? |
| 01:38.24 | JoshBorke | depending on the level there is usually more than 1 location for quests |
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| 01:39.50 | Chaotic_D | m'kay. I don't know how much spare time he has, but he did offer to help. I think maybe I'll level by myself at first if possible, since the first hour is so fast. |
| 01:40.21 | Cidan | You really need to just pick a server and stick with it |
| 01:40.27 | Cidan | stay with one char, get up there. |
| 01:40.50 | Chaotic_D | BTW, have any of you had your PC beep while playing? (or even typing) I find it happens a lot more when I'm gaming, and hitting multiple keys, or cursor keys in certain timing. |
| 01:41.03 | Chaotic_D | who said I wasn't sticking with one server? |
| 01:41.23 | Chaotic_D | he's only on one server. |
| 01:41.49 | JoshBorke | Chaotic_D: i would recommend doing as many of the quests as you can solo and asking for his help with the group quests. |
| 01:41.59 | Chaotic_D | I just realized the one I HAD been leveling wasn't on his server. |
| 01:42.24 | Cidan | Chaotic_D, it's because you are using a PS2 keyboard |
| 01:42.35 | Cidan | They have a limit of three keys at any given time |
| 01:42.39 | Chaotic_D | oh man. |
| 01:42.41 | Cidan | Switch to a USB keyboard. |
| 01:43.36 | Chaotic_D | ok, thanks. will a PS2 keyboard with a USB adapter work, or is it the keyboard? |
| 01:44.28 | alestane | if enableMouse="false" then can you 'click through' the frame to frames underneath? |
| 01:44.46 | ckknight | yes, alestane |
| 01:44.50 | Chaotic_D | is there at least a way to shut up the PS2 keyboard error so it doesn't beep? |
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| 01:50.26 | Iriel_ | The concurrent key limitation is as much a feature of the key matrix as it is the interface, there's no guarantee a USB keyboard is any more forgiving, it depends what the keys are and how it's wired |
| 01:51.22 | Mr_Rabies2 | blarg |
| 01:51.27 | Mr_Rabies2 | ogrila rep is slow |
| 01:51.34 | Mr_Rabies2 | er than skyguard |
| 01:51.41 | Mr_Rabies2 | they need a few more dailies |
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| 02:00.04 | alestane | Iriel: Do you know any reason why it makes sense for SecureActionButton to support shapeshift forms directly, or can they be implemented easily enough using 'type' = 'spell', 'spell' = form_name? |
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| 02:00.38 | Shirik | iirc |
| 02:00.40 | Shirik | if you do the form |
| 02:00.48 | Shirik | nm, I made that up |
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| 02:08.54 | Tuller | wait, when did they add shapeshift stuff to the secure action buttons? |
| 02:09.13 | JoshBorke | they didn't |
| 02:09.14 | JoshBorke | keep up |
| 02:09.52 | alestane | I'm checking whether there's a need to or not. |
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| 02:10.42 | Iriel | alestane: Hm, possibly entering but not leaving the form.. You'd have to check if the behavior is consistent |
| 02:10.56 | Iriel | alestane: Still, that shouldnt require special processing |
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| 02:14.25 | alestane | Well, we can get the spell name out of GetShapeshiftFormInfo, so that should be all we need to set up 'spell' = buttons...depends as you say whether there is any real difference between CastShapeshiftForm(1) and CastSpellByName('Bear Form') |
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| 02:15.36 | Tuller | well, that's exactly how I create the shapeshift bar in bongos |
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| 02:16.27 | alestane | Tuller: 'type' = 'spell', 'spell' = 'Bear Form'? |
| 02:16.46 | Tuller | yeah |
| 02:17.22 | Tuller | local spell = select(2, GetShapeshiftFormInfo(id)) |
| 02:17.23 | Tuller | button:SetAttribute("type", "spell") |
| 02:17.25 | Tuller | button:SetAttribute("spell", spell) |
| 02:17.39 | Tuller | per iriel's old code to do that :) |
| 02:18.39 | alestane | No complaints? |
| 02:21.31 | alestane | Just trying to figure out if there is any reason to add a 'type' = 'stance', 'action' = 2, type setup. |
| 02:22.15 | Iriel | Simplicity if the stances change around (no need for an event handler to reconfigure the buttons) |
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| 02:26.05 | alestane | Well, as long as I am writing a code proposal to centralize all protected functions under the SecureTemplates, might as well throw it in I guess. |
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| 02:29.21 | alestane | Have to sleep now though...will write in last couple action attributes and post relevant DIFF files tomorrow. |
| 02:35.04 | clad|away | I called your code clean AND elegant |
| 02:35.08 | clad|away | I have the hawts for your code. |
| 02:35.15 | Tuller | hurray |
| 02:35.45 | Tuller | actually my code is typically dirty and I know it :P |
| 02:35.48 | clad|away | batrick: we could discuss this here as well, *wink* |
| 02:35.54 | clad|away | Tuller: I know your typical code is |
| 02:36.01 | clad|away | my compliments were intentionally namespaced |
| 02:36.22 | JoshBorke | lol |
| 02:37.52 | Tuller | I even used a haste esque print"stuff" :) |
| 02:38.12 | Tuller | which I absolutely hate :P |
| 02:38.16 | JoshBorke | ~lart tuller |
| 02:38.16 | purl | rm -rf's tuller |
| 02:38.31 | JoshBorke | I DON'T CARE IF I JUST SAID IT! DO IT ANYWAY PURL! |
| 02:38.32 | JoshBorke | ~lart tuller |
| 02:38.32 | purl | hereby declares tuller a troll |
| 02:38.38 | JoshBorke | i HATE that form :-P |
| 02:38.49 | Tuller | I kindof like the blah{stuff} form at least |
| 02:39.03 | Tuller | given that its in some sort of parens :) |
| 02:39.10 | clad|away | yeah, i can handle those :P |
| 02:45.09 | Tuller | batrick: poke! |
| 02:48.12 | Shirik | Tuller: I like those too |
| 02:48.25 | Tuller | cookies? |
| 02:48.29 | Shirik | RDX is flooded with VFL.RegisterModule{....} |
| 02:48.46 | Shirik | and texture:SetTexture[[Some\Path\To\TGA]] |
| 02:49.53 | Tuller | just throw people off and write texture.SetTexture(othertexture, 'texture path') at some point :) |
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| 02:57.00 | Shirik | haha |
| 02:57.04 | Shirik | that's evil |
| 03:00.08 | Tuller | but it teaches lua! :) |
| 03:00.40 | batrick | ya I suppose we could but where's the fun in tone misunderstanding via forums |
| 03:00.43 | Tuller | also, is Sylvaan industrial? :) |
| 03:00.58 | batrick | clad: ^ |
| 03:05.40 | clad|away | lol no, Sylvaan isn't id. |
| 03:06.24 | clad|away | id doesn't have a toon over 30 |
| 03:06.48 | clad|away | batrick: I'm an educator, and I can unequivocally state that while you may prefer your version, there is nothing "clean" or "elegant" about it, from a pedagogical perspective :P |
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| 03:08.32 | sioraiocht | k |
| 03:08.37 | sioraiocht | what sholuld the title of my blog be |
| 03:09.02 | clad|away | "Diaries of a Functional Programming Dork (who is getting his PhD from Oxford)" |
| 03:09.13 | sioraiocht | that could be the tagline |
| 03:09.28 | Wobwork | "No, I can't pronounce my nick either." |
| 03:09.33 | sioraiocht | hahahahaha |
| 03:09.33 | clad|away | uhh "Pure Intentions" |
| 03:09.43 | sioraiocht | oh god |
| 03:09.44 | clad|away | make some pun on pure functions |
| 03:09.52 | clad|away | and it doesn't fit you at all.. which makes it funny |
| 03:09.59 | sioraiocht | shaddup |
| 03:10.08 | sioraiocht | there has to be a good one on referential transparency, i know it |
| 03:10.18 | Wobwork | "Sauntering vaugely downwards" |
| 03:10.25 | sioraiocht | <3 good omens |
| 03:10.27 | Shirik | ahahaha |
| 03:10.34 | Shirik | confuses the hell out of people: /script GuildSetMOTD("Illpalazzo has yummy fishsticks. Kimi can supply you with warm tartar sauce. Pelia has aldor tokens who needs them?\n\124cFFFFFF00Kimina rolls 101 (1-100)\124r") |
| 03:10.42 | Shirik | (Ignore the first part of the GMOTD, that was there before |
| 03:10.46 | Shirik | the second part is the fun part |
| 03:10.53 | clad|away | heh |
| 03:11.24 | batrick | clad|away: It might not look clean symantically, but it's clean in that it's separate from the gloabl environment |
| 03:11.36 | sioraiocht | batrick: so is using a table |
| 03:11.40 | clad|away | batrick: so is the other alternative, which is easily taught |
| 03:11.47 | clad|away | sioraiocht: Flamba Jama, Fa-blee! |
| 03:12.12 | sioraiocht | ROFL |
| 03:12.53 | Thunder_Child | why does it have to have a title? |
| 03:13.05 | clad|away | because "My Blog Needs a Title" is lame |
| 03:13.06 | clad|away | imo |
| 03:13.10 | Shirik | ha |
| 03:13.17 | Wobwork | "Team Alpha Super Awesome Cool Dynamite Wolf Squadron" |
| 03:13.20 | sioraiocht | because I can't deal with th eRSS feed showing (Untitled Feed) |
| 03:13.34 | clad|away | TASACDWS! |
| 03:13.35 | Thunder_Child | clad|away...that *is* a title |
| 03:13.41 | clad|away | ;-) |
| 03:13.47 | Wobwork | that's the name of one of our Kara teams =) |
| 03:13.49 | batrick | clad: no one will want to access their localization strings or other variables with some long prefix imo |
| 03:13.58 | clad|away | batrick: you don't need to.. |
| 03:13.59 | clad|away | local L |
| 03:14.03 | clad|away | L.Shattrath |
| 03:14.14 | batrick | that would need to have some huge if-else structure |
| 03:14.18 | clad|away | no it wouldn't. |
| 03:14.24 | sioraiocht | batrick: example? |
| 03:14.25 | batrick | at the beginning of the main file, and even then it's only defined for that chunk |
| 03:14.26 | clad|away | you're not being creative enough, look at Perfectraid |
| 03:14.30 | clad|away | nope |
| 03:14.34 | clad|away | PerfectRaid does it quite well |
| 03:14.50 | Shirik | setfenv(0, GetZoneText()) |
| 03:14.51 | Shirik | oh yeah |
| 03:14.56 | clad|away | by defining PerfectRaid.locals |
| 03:14.58 | clad|away | and then setting local L = PerfectRaid.locals |
| 03:15.02 | Shirik | make an environment for every zone |
| 03:15.02 | Shirik | yes |
| 03:15.07 | clad|away | I'd rather not pollute my own namespace either |
| 03:15.13 | batrick | eh you still need to prefix it |
| 03:15.19 | clad|away | so? |
| 03:15.24 | clad|away | then its clear whats a localized string |
| 03:15.32 | clad|away | ever had multiple koKReans working on your addons? |
| 03:15.42 | Wobwork | hehe |
| 03:15.42 | Tuller | that's actually why I adopted that syntax :P |
| 03:15.51 | clad|away | I have, for all of them, and they know every single time I use L.SOMETAG its a tag that needs to be localized. |
| 03:15.53 | Tuller | it being easier to read, that is |
| 03:15.59 | Wobwork | You damn EnUSsians! |
| 03:16.19 | Shirik | lol |
| 03:16.31 | sioraiocht | Wobwork: I was informed you were the tim tam providor |
| 03:16.34 | sioraiocht | *provider |
| 03:16.57 | clad|away | batrick: otherwise you have to invent some other convention for people to easily see what needs to be localized |
| 03:17.05 | batrick | I have one |
| 03:17.15 | Shirik | there are many who follow the "local L" syntax for localization :) |
| 03:17.18 | Shirik | Conspiracy included |
| 03:17.19 | clad|away | as a matter of fact, PerfectRaid uses a small lua script to pull out all uses of L["Some String"], generating the base locale by itself. |
| 03:17.21 | batrick | it's called: localization.de.lua, etc. |
| 03:17.21 | sioraiocht | I must simultaneous prostrate myself before you in gratitude, and curse you with the fiery passion of a thousand suns, because they were delicious, and I'll never, ever, top wanting them |
| 03:17.29 | clad|away | batrick: you're missing what i'm saying, entirely |
| 03:17.34 | clad|away | but thats okay |
| 03:18.19 | Wobwork | sioraiocht: Indeed. I am known as the Enabler. |
| 03:18.19 | clad|away | the point is, there's nothing wrong with L["Some string"] other than the fact that you don't like the way it looks, and that it requires some sort of prefix. |
| 03:18.32 | Wobwork | The name can cause issues in certain circles however. |
| 03:18.39 | sioraiocht | Wobwork: I did a tim tam slam, and it was a spiritual experience |
| 03:18.47 | bleeter | sioraiocht: woot! |
| 03:18.48 | Wobwork | Isn't it? =) |
| 03:18.50 | Wobwork | ^^ |
| 03:18.55 | clad|away | But as I stated, my code can be pastey'd and everyone will understand it, whereas yours taken out of context is horribly difficult to understand. |
| 03:18.57 | Shirik | This is conspiracy's localization strategy, which is actually pretty common: http://wowi.pastey.net/73362 |
| 03:19.00 | batrick | well that looks find clad, but is that your only point? |
| 03:19.06 | clad|away | in short, different strokes for different folks. |
| 03:19.08 | Shirik | (the file, of course, goes a lot longer) |
| 03:19.17 | Shirik | and that file is named enUS.lua in conspiracy/Language |
| 03:19.31 | Wobwork | clad|away: .... My inner Tekkub took one look at that comment and made comment =P |
| 03:19.44 | clad|away | Wobwork: ;-) |
| 03:19.52 | batrick | if I make a new string that needs to be localized, I just copy it to all the other localization.xx.lua files and put a --Translate comment next to it |
| 03:20.01 | clad|away | same here |
| 03:20.08 | clad|away | only when someone looks at my code, without the locale file |
| 03:20.18 | clad|away | its clear whats going on, and where my variables come from |
| 03:20.25 | clad|away | whereas setfenv() hides it all with "magic" |
| 03:20.43 | Chaotic_D | what's a good name for a female Gnome mage? Cherrybomb? Boomcandy? Pyroteknique? |
| 03:20.46 | batrick | I removed that word from my howto because I don't want it to be viewed that way :P |
| 03:21.05 | Chaotic_D | no one's taken Pyroteknique on ANY servers, but Cherrybomb has like 5 pages on the armory. |
| 03:21.19 | Chaotic_D | no Boomcandy or Candyboom's either. |
| 03:21.28 | Tuller | I also really really really really do not want people ever simply declaring variables by variable = "blah" |
| 03:21.35 | Shirik | svn up |
| 03:22.02 | batrick | Tuller: what's wrong with that if they know what environment they're in |
| 03:22.09 | clad|away | batrick: that's exactly what it is tho |
| 03:22.14 | clad|away | batrick: because the person reading the code doesn't |
| 03:22.16 | clad|away | and that's extremely important |
| 03:22.25 | batrick | well I tried to explain that |
| 03:22.37 | batrick | but just because it's difficult for someone new, doesn't mean it shouldn't be used |
| 03:23.03 | Tuller | I know that, but it still is harder to read |
| 03:23.22 | Shirik | I can read this statement: function a(a) coroutine.wrap(a)(a) end a(a) |
| 03:23.23 | Wobwork | Best mage name I've seen: Frostitute |
| 03:23.26 | clad|away | Like I said, put it on the wiki, its a valid idea for lots of things |
| 03:23.28 | Shirik | That doesn't mean that it's well written >.> |
| 03:23.42 | batrick | how so? If someone is constantly changing their environment I could see a problem with that. But if they clearly set their environment to their addon table, how is that worse? |
| 03:23.51 | batrick | Tuller: ^ |
| 03:24.07 | Tuller | because i can't look at a single function and tell that |
| 03:24.22 | clad|away | But using "magic" to save a few characters in an average file, introducing a metatable hit for every single global lookup, and obfuscating your code for the sake of what you feel is important (i.e. less prefixing) isn't something everyone is interested in. |
| 03:25.09 | Tuller | lets use an example here |
| 03:25.11 | batrick | The metatable lookup is about as bad as the regular global table lookup, it it really is so bad in a certain section of code that does it repeatedly, then you should build local copies. Just like usual |
| 03:25.25 | clad|away | indeed |
| 03:25.27 | Tuller | who am I talking to right now? |
| 03:25.29 | clad|away | that was just a portion of my disagreement |
| 03:25.32 | Tuller | batrick: who am I talking to right now? |
| 03:25.42 | clad|away | exactly |
| 03:25.44 | clad|away | it depends on what you find important |
| 03:25.59 | clad|away | I find making my code easy to read in any context more important than saving 150 keystrokes over the course of an entire file. |
| 03:26.12 | Tuller | that's also why I use the self parameter sometimes |
| 03:26.16 | clad|away | I expose my API using methods in a namespace, and make all other functions locally scoped to the file. |
| 03:26.22 | clad|away | if not a specific section of the file. |
| 03:26.24 | Tuller | simply so that I don't have to write AddonName all of the time :) |
| 03:27.01 | batrick | eh I think we'll just have to agree to disagree on this one |
| 03:27.18 | Cidan | I h4x0r my lua into bytecode and wrote an ASM loader for it right into WoW. |
| 03:27.20 | Cidan | Beat that. |
| 03:27.25 | *** kick/#wowi-lounge [Cidan!n=cladhair@WoWUIDev/WoWI/Featured/Dongle/cladhaire] by clad|away (you're not that good) |
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| 03:27.35 | Cidan | Yes, I am. |
| 03:27.39 | Cidan | However, I wouldn't want to. |
| 03:27.46 | clad|away | batrick: Its not agreement to disagree, but it comes right down to what you feel is important when writing an addon |
| 03:27.50 | clad|away | and that, we differ on entirely |
| 03:27.52 | clad|away | and I'm okay with that :P |
| 03:28.24 | Tuller | smash! |
| 03:29.05 | Shirik | Cidan totally deserved that |
| 03:29.10 | Cidan | I did not. |
| 03:29.11 | Cidan | :( |
| 03:29.23 | Cidan | God damn it, now you're going to make me prove it. |
| 03:30.30 | Iriel | Cidan: That would be, at the very least, a challenge. and any successful attempt would be sufficient to get you banned 8-) |
| 03:30.46 | clad|away | ;-) |
| 03:30.47 | Cidan | Right. |
| 03:30.51 | bleeter | now there |
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| 03:30.59 | bleeter | now there's inspiration if ever the was any |
| 03:31.00 | Cidan | [23:28] <Cidan> However, I wouldn't want to. |
| 03:31.01 | Cidan | :D |
| 03:31.41 | Cidan | I won't go into discussion about it here though -- lest I be subject to a ban in here. |
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| 03:32.06 | clad|away | i dont need that much justification to ban you |
| 03:32.19 | sioraiocht | ps, my blog title ended up being "Lazy Imagination" |
| 03:32.20 | clad|away | i can come up with another reason if it'll further your bytecode loading efforts imo |
| 03:32.22 | Cidan | Clad, a little bit of me died on the inside with that comment. |
| 03:32.43 | clad|away | Cidan: the part that loves girls imo |
| 03:33.00 | Cidan | hah, I'm hispanic, that part will never die. |
| 03:33.00 | sioraiocht | must not have been very robust in the first place |
| 03:33.18 | Shirik | dude, Cidan |
| 03:33.21 | Shirik | you can totally click clad|away now |
| 03:33.25 | Shirik | kick* |
| 03:33.29 | Shirik | but you failed at it |
| 03:33.53 | Cidan | ...what? |
| 03:34.03 | Shirik | I gave you privileges at #conspiracy |
| 03:34.07 | Cidan | oh right, eh |
| 03:34.25 | clad|away | lol |
| 03:34.36 | Cidan | the only channel I stay op'd in is #microsoft on EFNet |
| 03:35.06 | ScytheBlade1 | ... lol |
| 03:35.19 | sioraiocht | Cidan: that is the uncoolest thing i've ever heard |
| 03:35.44 | Cidan | psh, I've been hanging out there for what... uh, 10 years now? |
| 03:36.10 | batrick | you just beat your previious statement in uncoolness |
| 03:36.12 | batrick | gratz |
| 03:36.15 | Cidan | UNLIKELY |
| 03:36.25 | Cidan | Naw, I just know the people there, have, for a long time. |
| 03:36.33 | Cidan | Good friends, a lot of them are. |
| 03:36.44 | batrick | you make friends with the devil? |
| 03:36.54 | Cidan | Why are they the devil? |
| 03:37.35 | batrick | it was a bad joke, and not one worth explaining |
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| 03:38.47 | bleeter | hey, dumbass luser question here... how to get the default media to install to a secondary drive? I know I could install on the C drive, move the folder, then fudge with the registry, but wondering if the original installer can do it natively |
| 03:39.18 | Cidan | er |
| 03:39.22 | Cidan | default == original? |
| 03:39.32 | bleeter | er, yeah.. sorry |
| 03:39.50 | Cidan | Not sure, I don't think I've installed from CD since the game was out. |
| 03:40.07 | Cidan | Can't you just select it on the installed? |
| 03:40.10 | Cidan | er, installer? |
| 03:40.27 | ScytheBlade1 | Yup |
| 03:40.29 | Cidan | You must be able to -- mine is on my S: drive, has been since release. |
| 03:40.36 | bleeter | nope, it goes to install directx (fails, 'coz 9c's installed), then straight into the installing on to C |
| 03:40.47 | Wobwork | does it even use the registry? |
| 03:40.55 | ScytheBlade1 | Yes and no |
| 03:40.59 | ScytheBlade1 | Same applies to every blizzard game |
| 03:41.04 | ScytheBlade1 | They'll all run without reg settings |
| 03:41.08 | bleeter | Assume it does for the add/remove settings |
| 03:41.16 | ScytheBlade1 | Nuke them and start the game, it'll run still |
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| 03:41.53 | bleeter | aka 'write a batch script so the clueless user I'm doing this stuff for doesn't have to find out for himself' ;) |
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| 03:43.07 | bleeter | ok, just gotta be careful what to select at the DirectX failure dialog ;) |
| 03:43.11 | bleeter | panic stations over :) |
| 03:43.49 | bleeter | hmm, weird.. can't get it to not offer me the destination now... nm |
| 03:46.55 | Iriel | bleeter: Were you initially doing a BC install onto an existing WoW install? |
| 03:47.41 | bleeter | Iriel: nah, WoW 1.xxx (June 2005 Installer.exe) |
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| 04:01.51 | Guillotine | the BIOS is considered software, correct? |
| 04:02.07 | Thunder_Child | afaik yes |
| 04:10.08 | bleeter | I'd debate that it's firmware, not soft or hardware |
| 04:10.50 | Thunder_Child | it's still 1 & 0's |
| 04:11.04 | bleeter | tho, truth be told, circ early 90's, it was mostly ROM chips |
| 04:11.05 | Thunder_Child | a rose by any other name.... |
| 04:11.33 | Iriel | Firmware's a flavor of software though, really. |
| 04:11.54 | Shirik | some could argue there's no difference between software and hardware |
| 04:12.05 | Shirik | what about punch cards, what were those? |
| 04:12.14 | bleeter | pulp-ware |
| 04:12.18 | Iriel | Unless we live in The Matrix, that's rather debateable |
| 04:12.22 | Shirik | in the end all you're doing is controlling circuits |
| 04:12.23 | Iriel | Dont confuse the media with the content |
| 04:12.42 | Shirik | I want to learn how to use a punchcard really though |
| 04:12.50 | Shirik | punchcard computer* ? |
| 04:13.09 | Wobwork | well |
| 04:13.12 | Iriel | punch cards are just 80 character storage devices, really |
| 04:13.12 | Wobwork | you punch the cards |
| 04:13.16 | Wobwork | then drop them into the hopper |
| 04:13.21 | Iriel | there's little magical about them |
| 04:13.24 | Wobwork | and then realise you mispunched it |
| 04:13.29 | Iriel | Other than the coolness of their physical existance |
| 04:13.32 | Wobwork | after it's been waiting in the queue for three days |
| 04:13.51 | Shirik | I just want to go up to my professor one day when he assigned a program |
| 04:13.51 | Iriel | If you're really lucky an operator drops your deck, too |
| 04:13.54 | ScytheBlade1 | Wow, call_user_func_array() is a fun little PHP function |
| 04:13.55 | Wobwork | yeah |
| 04:13.56 | Shirik | give him a 20 lb box and say "here's my project" |
| 04:14.05 | Shirik | and he'll go "what the hell is this" |
| 04:14.10 | Shirik | and I'll say to him "my program. have fun" |
| 04:14.48 | Iriel | One of my CS projects was a simulation of one of the first stored program computers, that was a lot of fun. |
| 04:15.24 | Iriel | (A software simulation of old hardware, that is) |
| 04:16.33 | Kaelten | ~lart Mikk |
| 04:16.33 | purl | stabs Mikk |
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| 04:23.29 | clad|away | night all |
| 04:23.57 | bleeter | gnight clad|away |
| 04:24.52 | Thunder_Child | night clad |
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| 04:46.38 | Kaydeethree | ok... wtf... |
| 04:46.40 | Kaydeethree | http://kotaku.com/gaming/make-it-stop/live+action-dragon-ball-z-295873.php |
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| 04:49.46 | Shirik | .... |
| 04:49.54 | Shirik | one of the worst animes |
| 04:49.58 | Shirik | and they pick IT to be a movie? |
| 04:50.09 | Tierrie | haha |
| 04:50.18 | Tierrie | minute 1-15, "introduction" |
| 04:50.22 | Shirik | the hair should be interesting |
| 04:50.30 | Tierrie | 15 to 100 minutes: "trash talk" |
| 04:50.42 | Kaydeethree | s/trash talk/powering up/ |
| 04:50.45 | Tierrie | 100 minutes to 110 minutes: "best action sequence ever made with nuclear explosions coming from people's hand" |
| 04:50.52 | Tierrie | 110 minutes to 120 minutes: "someone dies" |
| 04:51.01 | Tierrie | 120 minutes to 130 minutes: "person gets resurrected" |
| 04:51.06 | Tierrie | then, sequel |
| 04:51.23 | Kaydeethree | meh. db/z was a mediocre anime... the funimation bastardization of it sucked hard |
| 04:51.39 | Kaydeethree | it's why I still have yet to buy any funi products, though I really want FMA |
| 04:51.53 | art3mis | they're doing this top 100 funniest movies of all time |
| 04:52.06 | MatthewS | ahem, trigun movie plz |
| 04:52.18 | Tierrie | NGV |
| 04:52.22 | art3mis | they're a A fish called wanda right now |
| 04:52.23 | Tierrie | make it R or X rated |
| 04:52.25 | Tierrie | and i'd watch it |
| 04:52.51 | Kaydeethree | heh... I just rewatched trigun last week. that'd be an interesting movie |
| 04:53.14 | art3mis | trigun is odd |
| 04:53.23 | art3mis | parts or it are great |
| 04:53.31 | Shirik | trigun is bad too |
| 04:53.31 | art3mis | other parts make me want to hurt puppies |
| 04:53.35 | Shirik | need some real animes |
| 04:53.45 | art3mis | Excel Saga! |
| 04:53.47 | art3mis | ;) |
| 04:53.57 | Shirik | yumeria, kiminozo, fate stay night, onegai twins |
| 04:53.58 | art3mis | i had that stupid friggin song stuck in my head for weeks |
| 04:54.05 | art3mis | one gay twins? |
| 04:54.10 | Kaydeethree | negative |
| 04:54.13 | Kaydeethree | "please" |
| 04:54.18 | Shirik | heh |
| 04:54.23 | Kaydeethree | and <3 oteacher/otwins |
| 04:54.25 | Shirik | that would be rated ... at least R |
| 04:54.33 | art3mis | read or die was great |
| 04:54.40 | Tierrie | i don't want to go to work tomorrow :( |
| 04:54.42 | Tierrie | ;( :( |
| 04:54.42 | art3mis | still not 100% sure why it was entertaining |
| 04:54.43 | Tierrie | :( |
| 04:56.03 | Kaydeethree | I just think the news of dbz actually happening has reminded everyone that live-action eva is still a very long ways away |
| 04:56.05 | Kaydeethree | thank the gods |
| 04:56.21 | Tierrie | id' settle for transformers 2 |
| 04:56.28 | art3mis | dbz god i hate dbz |
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| 04:56.51 | art3mis | transformers 2 and 3 are already on the board btw |
| 04:57.00 | Shirik | I'm sick of it |
| 04:57.01 | Shirik | seriously |
| 04:57.04 | Shirik | can't people come up with something new? |
| 04:57.15 | art3mis | which transformers or dbz? |
| 04:57.16 | ckknight | Shirik, talking about DBZ? |
| 04:57.17 | Shirik | Instead of just ripping of 10-year-old things and redoing them in a "new" movie style? |
| 04:57.20 | Shirik | not just DBZ |
| 04:57.24 | Shirik | Transformers, Spiderman, Superman |
| 04:57.29 | Shirik | everything we've seen for the last 5 years |
| 04:57.32 | art3mis | transformers was well done though |
| 04:57.39 | Shirik | X-men |
| 04:57.48 | Shirik | Hulk now I hear is (has?) coming out |
| 04:57.50 | art3mis | xmen and spider man should have stopped at 1 |
| 04:58.00 | art3mis | hulk HAS to be redone |
| 04:58.02 | ckknight | Shirik, they already did The Hulk, I thought |
| 04:58.11 | Shirik | maybe, I didn't watch any of these I wouldn't know |
| 04:58.13 | art3mis | ang lee fucked that up sooooo badly |
| 04:58.16 | Shirik | except spider man I was somewhat forced to |
| 04:58.17 | ckknight | X-Men 2+3 weren't horrible |
| 04:58.57 | art3mis | they werent good either |
| 04:58.57 | Tierrie | superman is horrible |
| 04:58.57 | Tierrie | i like the new batman though |
| 04:58.57 | Tierrie | and iron man looks insanely cool |
| 04:58.57 | Kaydeethree | http://www.penny-arcade.com/comic/2007/07/04 |
| 04:58.57 | Tierrie | i agree on the hulk |
| 04:58.59 | art3mis | yeah that may be pretty good |
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| 05:09.17 | Rallion | I just watched and liked My Super Ex-Girlfriend |
| 05:10.37 | Rallion | It's the only time I've ever felt that bad writing actually helped a movie, except for those times when it's 'bad on purpose' |
| 05:11.36 | art3mis | that movie was only funny for 2 reasons |
| 05:11.39 | art3mis | 1. eddie izzard |
| 05:11.41 | Rallion | Eddie Izzard |
| 05:11.57 | art3mis | 2. the two of them standing there with the purses as the girls go off to fight crime |
| 05:12.14 | Wobwork | Rallion: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0779982/ |
| 05:12.20 | art3mis | oh i had my first new york moment the other day |
| 05:12.33 | art3mis | i was standing out side this restaurant with my wifes purse waiting for her |
| 05:12.53 | art3mis | and these girls walked by all snooty |
| 05:13.10 | Rallion | As a guy that's seen more than my fair share of horribly nasty relationship-endings, I actually saw value in the satire and for the love of god I feel so dirty for typing that. |
| 05:13.18 | art3mis | and the first thing that ran through my head was "yeah fuck you, this is a real coach bag, how's your fake prada" |
| 05:13.22 | Rallion | lol |
| 05:13.25 | Rallion | excellent. |
| 05:13.30 | Cairenn|afk | rofl |
| 05:13.45 | Cairenn|afk | should have told them it's your murse |
| 05:13.51 | art3mis | heh |
| 05:13.59 | art3mis | dena has like 8 coach bags |
| 05:14.58 | Rallion | My current girlfriend has a purse that has nothing in it and never leaves the car. It's glorious. |
| 05:14.58 | art3mis | 4 of which i bought for her right when the new bags came in for the seasons that were "the hottest of the season" and appearantly impressed countless females that her husband had picked them out ;P |
| 05:15.49 | art3mis | im slowly teaching her to buy clothing that has pockets |
| 05:15.55 | Tem | lol |
| 05:15.57 | art3mis | becuase *I* will not be a mobile purse |
| 05:15.58 | Rallion | hehe |
| 05:16.14 | art3mis | and i wear cargo shorts and pants almost exclusively ;P |
| 05:16.16 | ckknight | lol, art3mis |
| 05:16.28 | ckknight | but pockets make their hips look funny |
| 05:17.02 | Rallion | I'm fine carrying her stuff, it's usually just a really small wallet, keys, and phone...with cargo pockets, that's no problem |
| 05:17.13 | art3mis | Cairenn|afk: in nyc its "prestige" |
| 05:17.17 | art3mis | thats about it |
| 05:17.21 | art3mis | i dont understand it past that |
| 05:17.21 | Cairenn|afk | no, it's stupid |
| 05:17.31 | art3mis | no it is |
| 05:17.34 | art3mis | trust me on this |
| 05:17.37 | Cairenn|afk | no offense to your wife |
| 05:17.49 | art3mis | oh none taken i call her a label whore all the time ;P |
| 05:18.05 | art3mis | #18 stripes #17 MASH |
| 05:18.17 | art3mis | mash was brilliant |
| 05:18.32 | art3mis | so far aside from about 4 this list is pretty good |
| 05:18.49 | Cairenn|afk | labels are really really dumb - if you can get good quality for good price, then why the fuck do you want to add 30%-300% for a damn name |
| 05:18.55 | art3mis | and then they break it with ranking oldschool above mash |
| 05:19.18 | art3mis | Cairenn|afk: because here there is a very real chance youll run into that "famous" person ;P |
| 05:19.33 | art3mis | speaking of which |
| 05:19.38 | Shirik|zZz | á demain |
| 05:19.39 | Cairenn|afk | and I care about that, why? |
| 05:19.42 | art3mis | i see anderson cooper like every morning |
| 05:19.45 | Rallion | Cairenn, from what I've seen, the 'higher-end' stuff is frequently LOWER quality |
| 05:19.50 | art3mis | i want hair like his |
| 05:19.54 | Cairenn|afk | Rallion: no kidding |
| 05:20.05 | art3mis | thats true in most cases except coach and kate spade |
| 05:20.13 | art3mis | both have lifetime warranties |
| 05:20.17 | Thunder_Child | and besides, it seems to be rather hard to find womens clothing with pockets |
| 05:20.18 | Cairenn|afk | thanks, I like my $20 jeans from walmart, I don't really need to spend $200 for a name on a pocket |
| 05:20.29 | art3mis | anything rips breaks tears etc on them even 40 eyars down the road and they will repair it |
| 05:20.42 | Shirik|zZz | Cairenn|afk: No, you're missing something |
| 05:20.44 | Cairenn|afk | art3mis: that matters for things like luggage, yes |
| 05:20.50 | Shirik|zZz | You forgot the fact that you pay more for the holes in the jeans too |
| 05:21.01 | art3mis | she got a kate spade clutch purse that was 7 years old repaired for free last year when the handle thingy broke |
| 05:21.10 | Rallion | I used to buy ripped stuff...those days are over |
| 05:21.23 | Cairenn|afk | but not for a purse that you will be sick of in 5 years, max |
| 05:21.38 | Rallion | speaking of repairs, Nintendo really needs to send me my instructions for my Wii repair. |
| 05:21.43 | art3mis | she still uses them all even her old 9 year old bags ;P |
| 05:21.55 | art3mis | did you buy metroid yet? |
| 05:21.58 | Rallion | I did |
| 05:22.01 | art3mis | how is it? |
| 05:22.06 | Rallion | it's excellent |
| 05:22.10 | FlAWD | Rallion: http://www.repairwii.com/ |
| 05:22.16 | Rallion | the video artifacts I'm getting, not excellent |
| 05:22.20 | art3mis | thats the only reason im considering getting one |
| 05:22.25 | art3mis | artifacts? |
| 05:22.33 | Rallion | yeah |
| 05:22.52 | Rallion | it needs a new GPU, likely |
| 05:23.05 | Rallion | I even get artifacts on the menu |
| 05:23.09 | Cairenn|afk | good for her, but that already means she isn't the "typical" NY woman who is all worried about "prestige" and crap |
| 05:24.04 | Cairenn|afk | (the "good for her" wasn't sarcasm) |
| 05:24.24 | Rallion | looks sort of like this: http://img96.imageshack.us/img96/812/img0270cs5.jpg |
| 05:24.31 | Rallion | I can't get a good pic on my own |
| 05:25.04 | art3mis | ewww |
| 05:25.20 | Rallion | actually, here's a pic that looks like it's from an LCD: http://s1974.home.comcast.net/wii_dots2.JPG |
| 05:25.21 | art3mis | Cairenn|afk: heh dont get me wrong she is a total label whore when it comes to bags ;) |
| 05:25.37 | art3mis | thats pretty horrible |
| 05:25.39 | Cairenn|afk | anyway, I'm out |
| 05:25.51 | Shirik|zZz | me too |
| 05:25.51 | art3mis | #15 fast times at ridgemont high |
| 05:25.53 | Shirik|zZz | night Cairenn|afk :) |
| 05:26.02 | art3mis | night snoogums |
| 05:26.08 | art3mis | night shirik |
| 05:28.42 | ckknight | good movie, art3mis |
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| 05:35.37 | art3mis | #9 Blazzing Saddles |
| 05:37.18 | art3mis | "hey boys look what i got har" *pulls out the black sherrif* "where da white wimmen at?" |
| 05:37.50 | art3mis | #8 the wedding singer |
| 05:38.12 | art3mis | #7 Ace Ventura: Pet Detective |
| 05:38.35 | Thunder_Child | bah @ the last 2 |
| 05:38.49 | art3mis | yeah |
| 05:39.13 | art3mis | blazing asddles deserves to be higher |
| 05:39.38 | ScytheBlade1 | Who was it in here, who a few days ago, suggested that I use generated queries instead of writing them all out by hand? (basically, pinging 'whoever' suggested that) |
| 05:39.59 | ScytheBlade1 | (Assuming that they are awake) |
| 05:41.38 | ScytheBlade1 | http://pastey.net/73365 <-- because I'd like to give them some love. |
| 05:42.32 | Thunder_Child | /love ideaperson |
| 05:42.46 | Tem | what language is that? |
| 05:42.56 | ScytheBlade1 | PHP |
| 05:43.02 | Tem | it looks aweful |
| 05:43.12 | art3mis | #6 Airplane |
| 05:43.13 | ScytheBlade1 | It really isn't |
| 05:43.18 | Tem | I have no idea about the quality of the code |
| 05:43.29 | Rallion | PHP isn't so bad |
| 05:43.31 | Tem | it just looks really fugly |
| 05:43.37 | Tem | and prone to symbolese |
| 05:43.46 | ScytheBlade1 | It's either that or I do one line per variable :P |
| 05:44.07 | ScytheBlade1 | $data[0]["ColumnName"] = "TargetA"; // and so on and so forth |
| 05:44.26 | ScytheBlade1 | I just condensed it into a single line for three additional array elements |
| 05:44.30 | ScytheBlade1 | Lot less typing :P |
| 05:44.53 | Rallion | and then store_data is...a database operation? |
| 05:44.59 | Rallion | maybe? |
| 05:45.10 | ScytheBlade1 | Generates the preprared statement and executes it |
| 05:45.13 | Rallion | right |
| 05:45.35 | ScytheBlade1 | I got sick of matching and writing 60+ queries |
| 05:45.39 | ScytheBlade1 | So I did this instead :P |
| 05:45.48 | Tem | what's the => operation? |
| 05:45.50 | art3mis | wtf |
| 05:45.57 | Rallion | honestly, I always felt working in php is pretty similar to working in lua |
| 05:46.00 | ScytheBlade1 | Assignment... sec here |
| 05:46.03 | art3mis | #5 Southpark: Bigger Funnier and uncut |
| 05:46.04 | ScytheBlade1 | Let me do another pastry |
| 05:46.05 | ScytheBlade1 | *pastey |
| 05:46.13 | Tem | assignment of a string to a string? |
| 05:46.18 | art3mis | longer |
| 05:46.27 | Tem | that's like saying "4 = 7" |
| 05:46.28 | art3mis | #4 something about mary |
| 05:46.31 | ScytheBlade1 | No, sec |
| 05:46.33 | ScytheBlade1 | Let me type this out |
| 05:46.37 | Rallion | Tem, no |
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| 05:47.11 | Rallion | it's just for array initializations, IIRC |
| 05:47.24 | levin_0093 | hey guys, think anyone here can help me with the new auctioneer preview? |
| 05:47.39 | Tem | you might have better luck in #norganna |
| 05:47.50 | Tem | unless it's a more general addon question and they turned you to us |
| 05:48.26 | ScytheBlade1 | http://pastey.net/73367 <-- there you go |
| 05:48.36 | levin_0093 | nah was there just thought i might check this channel out here see if anyone was awake :) |
| 05:49.13 | ScytheBlade1 | It's a compact way of writing a multi-dimensional array. Obviously it's less useful with more elements, but for small things like this it works well. |
| 05:49.25 | art3mis | #3 Shrek |
| 05:50.19 | art3mis | #2 Caddy Shack |
| 05:50.32 | ScytheBlade1 | "X" => "Y" is assigning "X" as the key name, and "Y" as the value, basically |
| 05:51.07 | Tem | ah okay |
| 05:51.07 | Tem | thanks |
| 05:52.20 | ScytheBlade1 | Make a little more sense now? ;) |
| 05:56.54 | art3mis | #1 funniest movie of all time according to Bravo................ |
| 05:56.57 | art3mis | Animal House |
| 05:58.46 | Thunder_Child | bravo fails |
| 05:59.44 | art3mis | yup |
| 06:00.10 | Thunder_Child | you cant define all of the movies by the same thing |
| 06:00.42 | Thunder_Child | titanic was the most sucsessfull movie of all time...but if you looked at opening weekend it bombed... |
| 06:01.51 | art3mis | such a bad list |
| 06:02.06 | art3mis | mainly because in the top 100 were movies that hand ben stiller in them |
| 06:10.00 | Corrodias | my two close friends are having this big fight now |
| 06:10.07 | Corrodias | i'm rather displeased with my position. |
| 06:10.15 | Corrodias | there. i'm done being emo now |
| 06:10.52 | ScytheBlade1 | Corrodias, you should join #teen on DAL and vent there ;) |
| 06:10.58 | ScytheBlade1 | It might be entertaining, at least. |
| 06:13.55 | ScytheBlade1 | Actually the truth of the matter, is I've got a migraine. The medicine I have has two components: caffiene, and pain killer. Popping a few of those at 11:00 PM is a bad idea when you need to sleep. |
| 06:14.07 | ScytheBlade1 | So I'm really just talking to talk, and to be honest, I'm beginning to annoy myself. |
| 06:15.07 | Corrodias | one of those friends keeps talking to me about what a jerk the other one is |
| 06:15.17 | Corrodias | at this point i'm just nodding and hoping he'll fall asleep |
| 06:15.26 | Corrodias | well, nodding through IM anyway |
| 06:15.28 | ScytheBlade1 | lol I hate that |
| 06:15.51 | Corrodias | i've openned my watch, but i have no idea how to get the battery out |
| 06:16.05 | ScytheBlade1 | Sometimes I just get sick of that, and slap them both until they're thinking clearly again. |
| 06:16.16 | ScytheBlade1 | Otherwise I do just that: sit there and nod until it fixes itself. |
| 06:33.06 | ScytheBlade1 | Wow this is easier. I don't think I'll ever have a project which involves mass data entry where I manually write queries again. |
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| 06:37.49 | Corrodias | know what job i'd like? |
| 06:37.52 | Corrodias | manual data entry. |
| 06:38.01 | Tierrie | that sounds extremely boring |
| 06:38.07 | Corrodias | boring, that's me! :D |
| 06:38.14 | Tierrie | especially since menial labour like that tend towards supervisors that work you to death |
| 06:38.29 | Tierrie | i am against any job where your supervisor can empirically gauge your performance |
| 06:38.35 | Corrodias | heheh |
| 06:38.42 | ScytheBlade1 | lol |
| 06:38.44 | Tierrie | "oh you entered 2000 lines today? good job, hope you can go 2100 tomorrow" |
| 06:38.53 | Tierrie | "2100 fantastic! 2200 tomorrow?" |
| 06:38.59 | ScytheBlade1 | Whatever floats your boat. |
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| 06:39.13 | Tierrie | "oh uh only 2090 lines today, tsk tsk, i shall of course, have to note this" |
| 06:39.14 | Corrodias | well, if you get fired for not outputting enough... it wasn't a great job in the first place anyway, right? |
| 06:39.16 | Corrodias | so you're moving on up! |
| 06:39.22 | ScytheBlade1 | Pretty sure I'd automate the job, and spend the other 90% of the day doing nothing and getting money for it. |
| 06:39.31 | Tierrie | i'd fuck the receptionist |
| 06:39.33 | Tierrie | and get fired |
| 06:39.42 | ScytheBlade1 | So |
| 06:39.45 | ScytheBlade1 | Laughing IRL |
| 06:39.50 | ScytheBlade1 | At 12:40 AM |
| 06:40.46 | Tierrie | you know i always wondered-- |
| 06:40.58 | Tierrie | so, lots of guys in this channel right? i'd say about 90% guys? |
| 06:41.03 | ScytheBlade1 | Probably |
| 06:41.05 | Tierrie | and that's pretty much the norm in irc |
| 06:41.08 | Corrodias | of the three of us talking? perhaps more |
| 06:41.25 | Tierrie | so, i want to know, is there like some activity where the demographics is like 90% female? |
| 06:41.31 | Tierrie | because they HAVE to be doing something? |
| 06:41.33 | Corrodias | pregnancy |
| 06:41.38 | Tierrie | wow |
| 06:41.43 | Tierrie | i hate to be in that 10% male minority |
| 06:41.45 | ScytheBlade1 | I'm so submitting the above to bash.org and qdb.us |
| 06:41.59 | krka | in sweden, i can come up with a few mostly female activities |
| 06:42.35 | Tierrie | OMG KNITTING CLUB! |
| 06:42.39 | krka | dog agility and dog freestyle are two |
| 06:42.46 | Tierrie | uh |
| 06:42.51 | Tierrie | is that an euphemism for sex? |
| 06:43.01 | krka | O_o |
| 06:43.01 | krka | no |
| 06:43.14 | Tierrie | ok, well i don't know swedish culture very well |
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| 06:43.22 | krka | human-canine interaction sports |
| 06:43.23 | ScytheBlade1 | http://bash.org/?802110 and http://qdb.us/105319 |
| 06:43.28 | Tierrie | you never know -- foreigners always have weird euphemisms for sex |
| 06:43.35 | Tierrie | "hey honey, we have meatballs for dinner" |
| 06:43.37 | krka | i'd imagine the trend is similar elsewhere |
| 06:43.53 | krka | who are the foreigners? |
| 06:44.07 | ckknight | anyone not a red-blooded American is foreign |
| 06:44.16 | ckknight | like, look at German |
| 06:44.22 | ckknight | "Ich bin warm" |
| 06:44.23 | ckknight | sexual |
| 06:44.25 | krka | so this is officially an american channel? |
| 06:44.29 | ckknight | even though it translates to I am warm |
| 06:44.33 | Tierrie | canadian i think |
| 06:44.42 | ckknight | anywhere I go, America's support is behind me |
| 06:44.44 | krka | canada is in america :P |
| 06:44.45 | Iriel_ | Goodnight |
| 06:44.49 | krka | night iriel |
| 06:44.51 | ScytheBlade1 | Heh, night. |
| 06:44.54 | Corrodias | oh, ScytheBlade1, i thought you were going to submit that part about females on IRC |
| 06:44.56 | Corrodias | 'ni |
| 06:44.57 | Tierrie | good catch iriel! |
| 06:45.07 | ScytheBlade1 | Corrodias, nah, I couldn't resist the above. |
| 06:45.11 | Tierrie | oh definitely think the 90%/10% quote was better scythe |
| 06:45.17 | ScytheBlade1 | Nah |
| 06:45.27 | Corrodias | it's too predictable |
| 06:45.35 | Corrodias | i wouldn't submit it either |
| 06:46.08 | ScytheBlade1 | I've submitted my fair share... only so many get accepted |
| 06:46.50 | Tierrie | well i put it in |
| 06:46.57 | Tierrie | only because it makes me look like a funny fucker |
| 06:47.12 | Tierrie | of course, if my employers every google "tierrie" i'm thoroughly fucked |
| 06:47.16 | ScytheBlade1 | I can say that I submitted this one though: http://bash.org/?297858 |
| 06:47.57 | ckknight | I have a quote in bash.org |
| 06:48.04 | Tierrie | me too |
| 06:48.11 | Tierrie | its almost like you're a famous person |
| 06:48.15 | Tierrie | but not really |
| 06:48.22 | Tierrie | because the only people who read it are geeks |
| 06:48.36 | ckknight | http://bash.org/?715285 |
| 06:49.20 | ScytheBlade1 | lol |
| 06:49.22 | Corrodias | i'm not expecting myself to be in there anywhere, but let's see... |
| 06:49.29 | Corrodias | nope |
| 06:49.33 | Tierrie | nope |
| 06:49.40 | Tierrie | but i have a quote in there, advocating murder |
| 06:50.09 | ScytheBlade1 | And you'll soon have another in there, advocating unprovoked sex in the workplace. |
| 06:50.25 | Tierrie | well i will have to change my email on my resume |
| 06:50.28 | Tierrie | but that is about it |
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| 06:51.34 | ScytheBlade1 | I leave no connections between this alias and anything in real life, period |
| 06:51.37 | Tierrie | man, if some future civilization finds the archives of the internet and pieces together who this "tierrie" is, the only conclusion they would come to is, "what a fucking idiot" |
| 06:51.42 | ScytheBlade1 | lol |
| 06:52.01 | Guillotine | shit. I accidently deleted my system path. Anybody know how to restore the default system path? |
| 06:52.07 | Tierrie | ......... |
| 06:52.13 | Corrodias | system restore |
| 06:52.24 | Tierrie | did you delete system path from your environmental variables or did you just delete c:\windows\system32 |
| 06:52.45 | Corrodias | unless you have a record of your system path, it's probably best to hit up your most recent restore point |
| 06:52.55 | Tierrie | restore points are mostly useless prevista |
| 06:52.56 | Guillotine | I accidently overrid my environmental variableds |
| 06:53.01 | Tierrie | they only recorded important crap |
| 06:53.04 | Tierrie | oh then you're fine |
| 06:53.33 | Guillotine | meant to put %PATH%... in personal variables, accidently put it in global |
| 06:53.37 | ScytheBlade1 | Did you change it in the system settings, or just in one shell/enviroment? |
| 06:53.57 | Tierrie | if you just changed the path in one cmd window, close it and open another one |
| 06:54.00 | Tierrie | they are not persistant |
| 06:54.00 | Guillotine | system settings |
| 06:54.20 | Tierrie | did you hit accept yet? |
| 06:54.25 | Guillotine | yes :( |
| 06:54.29 | Guillotine | thats when I noticed what I had done |
| 06:54.38 | Tierrie | do you have a cmd window open? |
| 06:54.42 | Tierrie | before you clicked accept? |
| 06:54.46 | Guillotine | no :( |
| 06:54.52 | ScytheBlade1 | Which variable did you override? |
| 06:54.57 | Guillotine | PATH |
| 06:54.58 | Tierrie | system path |
| 06:55.13 | Guillotine | maybe I can just find the default online |
| 06:55.25 | ScytheBlade1 | Sec, I've got the default here |
| 06:55.27 | Tierrie | don't trip, system path is not important |
| 06:55.32 | Guillotine | Scythe: for vista? |
| 06:55.37 | ScytheBlade1 | Ah. No. |
| 06:55.39 | Guillotine | Tierrie: its causing some errors with programs |
| 06:55.39 | Tierrie | i do |
| 06:55.51 | Tierrie | i don't have a variable named system path |
| 06:55.53 | Tierrie | did you mean "path"? |
| 06:55.57 | Guillotine | yes |
| 06:56.07 | Corrodias | i can give you -my- path |
| 06:56.13 | Tierrie | i have nothing in it except this -> C:\Users\Tierrie\AppData\Local\Start++\LNKs;C:\Users\Tierrie\AppData\Local\Start++\CMDs |
| 06:56.16 | ScytheBlade1 | The PATH variable under SYSTEM, not USER. |
| 06:56.25 | Tierrie | oh right |
| 06:56.30 | Tierrie | then this would be it ->%SystemRoot%\system32;%SystemRoot%;%SystemRoot%\System32\Wbem;C:\Program Files\ATI Technologies\ATI.ACE\Core-Static;C:\Program Files\IDM Computer Solutions\UltraEdit-32 |
| 06:56.35 | Tierrie | omg my porn folders |
| 06:56.37 | Corrodias | C:\Utilities\Lua\;C:\Perl\bin\;C:\Python24\.;%SystemRoot%\system32;%SystemRoot%;%SystemRoot%\System32\Wbem;C:\Program Files\Common Files\GTK\2.0\bin;%VDMSPath% |
| 06:56.41 | ScytheBlade1 | lol |
| 06:56.54 | Tierrie | perl++ |
| 06:57.16 | Corrodias | i have it installed, but i admit i don't use it. i think i had to run a perl script once. |
| 06:57.21 | Tierrie | ah |
| 06:57.26 | Tierrie | well i haven't used perl in a while |
| 06:57.32 | Tierrie | i would like a job doing it, but they aren't very well paid |
| 06:57.33 | Corrodias | or perhaps i have it on hand in case the mood to learn it strikes me |
| 06:58.12 | ScytheBlade1 | You know, a restore point should set that back to what it was, actually. |
| 06:58.19 | Tierrie | perl is awesome, knowing how to code in perl is like being the most amazing, brilliant, brightest person in the universe |
| 06:58.22 | ScytheBlade1 | If those didn't revert those, well, it wouldn't be all that useful. |
| 06:58.23 | Tierrie | and only your dog knows this |
| 06:58.30 | Tierrie | hey |
| 06:58.38 | Tierrie | you have vista, use its revert |
| 06:58.41 | Tierrie | vista's revert is awesome |
| 06:58.49 | Tierrie | and ifyou have a system restore point its even better, its like ghost |
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| 06:59.02 | Tierrie | i installed my OS then did a system restore point |
| 06:59.08 | Tierrie | i can ghost my machine back to first install anything |
| 06:59.10 | Tierrie | sexay |
| 06:59.16 | Corrodias | so it actually restores =everything-? |
| 06:59.20 | Tierrie | yes |
| 06:59.26 | Guillotine | any idea how I access revert? |
| 06:59.33 | Tierrie | uh do you have windows vista ultimate? |
| 06:59.39 | Tierrie | or windows vista hobo |
| 06:59.56 | ScytheBlade1 | lol @ hobo |
| 06:59.57 | Guillotine | ultimate :P |
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| 07:00.27 | Guillotine | well, I have a system restore point from earlier today. that should work |
| 07:00.32 | Guillotine | it only changes settings, right? |
| 07:00.34 | Guillotine | not files |
| 07:00.35 | Tierrie | Accessories -> System Tools -> System Restore |
| 07:00.37 | Tierrie | uh depends |
| 07:00.39 | Tierrie | there are two types |
| 07:00.49 | Tierrie | one is the xp style where they just revert some core files and registry |
| 07:00.51 | Corrodias | if it's windows XP, it's mostly just settings |
| 07:00.54 | Tierrie | then there's the whole system restore which is like ghost |
| 07:01.01 | Corrodias | .ini and .exe files are included |
| 07:01.23 | Tierrie | honestly guillotine, you should do a full system restore point |
| 07:01.39 | Tierrie | it will be totally useful if you ever fuck your computer up beyond repair, you can always return it to pristine condition |
| 07:01.51 | Guillotine | well brb. restarting comp with system restore. wish me luck :P |
| 07:01.55 | Tierrie | luck |
| 07:05.11 | Tierrie | well |
| 07:05.18 | Tierrie | i guess i will finish watching my best friend's wedding |
| 07:05.21 | Tierrie | its better than i expected |
| 07:05.25 | Tierrie | i guess i like mushy movies |
| 07:05.59 | ScytheBlade1 | Wow this is slow. |
| 07:06.35 | ScytheBlade1 | Then again, trying 70 regexes on 30k strings should be. |
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| 07:08.39 | Wraanger | heyaz |
| 07:11.44 | Wraanger | question, what will be right syntaxis for : for 1=1,4 do Party<here should be i>.Power.value:Hide() ? |
| 07:13.28 | Corrodias | do _G["Party"..i].Power |
| 07:13.37 | Corrodias | unless it's local |
| 07:13.48 | Wraanger | thanks, will try |
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| 07:20.44 | AnduinLothar | zomg, we have power again |
| 07:24.54 | Corrodias | there's something incredibly kinky about a gnome warlock |
| 07:27.04 | ScytheBlade1 | Is it generally taking too long when this script takes 2m8s to match 70 regexes to 28k lines, and store 4k of them in a database on a remote machine? |
| 07:27.19 | AnduinLothar | in one file? |
| 07:27.24 | ScytheBlade1 | Yes |
| 07:27.26 | AnduinLothar | yes |
| 07:27.34 | ScytheBlade1 | A rather long combat log ;P |
| 07:27.36 | AnduinLothar | unless your regex is bad |
| 07:27.48 | ScytheBlade1 | 1.9MB of text |
| 07:28.14 | AnduinLothar | shouuldn't take anywhere near that long |
| 07:28.26 | AnduinLothar | is it all lua? or an exe? |
| 07:28.31 | ScytheBlade1 | Well, it tries one regex, and if that doesn't match, goes to the next |
| 07:28.32 | Tierrie | no it is not very long scythe |
| 07:28.34 | ScytheBlade1 | PHP actually |
| 07:28.40 | Tierrie | if your regexp is not optimized that sounds about right |
| 07:28.56 | AnduinLothar | oh php is slow as shit |
| 07:29.03 | AnduinLothar | esp the regex |
| 07:29.35 | ScytheBlade1 | The most optimizing that can be done with this is order based processing, that's the biggest hit. It looks for a simple melee hit last, due to other limitations |
| 07:29.59 | ScytheBlade1 | There are 1285 normal melee hits in here, and for every one, it's checking 69 other regexes first |
| 07:30.00 | AnduinLothar | what you should have it do is remove thew lines that match after matching them |
| 07:30.15 | AnduinLothar | that will make progressing scans faster |
| 07:30.40 | AnduinLothar | provided you have enough memory and it's nto paging |
| 07:30.43 | ScytheBlade1 | Progressing scanes won't matter, this is a one-shot deal (except during dev, that's actually a really good idea ;P) |
| 07:30.51 | ScytheBlade1 | s/scanes/scans/ |
| 07:30.57 | AnduinLothar | no no |
| 07:31.01 | AnduinLothar | after 1 regex |
| 07:31.05 | AnduinLothar | remove those lines |
| 07:31.11 | ScytheBlade1 | Which 'lines'? |
| 07:31.15 | AnduinLothar | then do the next regex |
| 07:31.19 | AnduinLothar | the matches |
| 07:31.36 | AnduinLothar | or are you doign all 70 matches on one lien before moving to the next |
| 07:31.51 | ScytheBlade1 | 69 misses, 70th attempt works. |
| 07:31.57 | AnduinLothar | or are you regexing the whole file at once >.< |
| 07:32.04 | ScytheBlade1 | Entire file, line by line. |
| 07:32.29 | AnduinLothar | if it matches one it's not gonna match any of the rest right? |
| 07:32.43 | ScytheBlade1 | Right. In which case it breaks and moves on to the next line. |
| 07:32.51 | ScytheBlade1 | Stopping checks on whichever regexes are left. |
| 07:33.02 | AnduinLothar | ok i get it |
| 07:33.21 | AnduinLothar | do you have a test case i can easily run? |
| 07:33.25 | ScytheBlade1 | For things like MELEE_HIT though, that is the last processed regex, and it must be that way. |
| 07:33.28 | ScytheBlade1 | Heh, no actually |
| 07:33.38 | AnduinLothar | do you have the php? |
| 07:33.58 | ScytheBlade1 | That I'm actively writing, but it also requires a database schema and setup. |
| 07:34.07 | AnduinLothar | why? |
| 07:34.14 | ScytheBlade1 | To store the values? :P |
| 07:34.25 | AnduinLothar | doesn't store them as vars? |
| 07:34.30 | AnduinLothar | or a table |
| 07:34.48 | AnduinLothar | you have it directly depositing into somehting liek sql? |
| 07:34.57 | ScytheBlade1 | It's pretty hard to not store things as variables and still use SQL. |
| 07:35.21 | AnduinLothar | are you storing durring or after the regex loop? |
| 07:35.28 | ScytheBlade1 | After it finds a match. |
| 07:35.31 | AnduinLothar | >.< |
| 07:35.34 | AnduinLothar | that's why |
| 07:35.46 | ScytheBlade1 | Not like I can do it before it finds a match :P |
| 07:35.47 | AnduinLothar | your sql accesses are slowign you down |
| 07:35.59 | ScytheBlade1 | Well, yes, but the time should still be equal in the end. |
| 07:36.13 | AnduinLothar | save them all to a table then deposit them into the sql all at once after the whole regex finishes |
| 07:36.35 | AnduinLothar | the time should be faster if you batch the sql inserts |
| 07:36.52 | ScytheBlade1 | Actually, I should just prefix it with a START TRANSACTION. |
| 07:37.14 | AnduinLothar | maybe. i dunno how that works actually |
| 07:37.47 | AnduinLothar | COMMIT at the end i guess |
| 07:37.53 | ScytheBlade1 | Yup |
| 07:38.20 | AnduinLothar | i dunno how that will work time wise. my guess is it still accesses mysql for every line match... |
| 07:38.50 | ScytheBlade1 | Down to 17s by doing it in a transaction. |
| 07:38.52 | ScytheBlade1 | That's hot. |
| 07:38.57 | AnduinLothar | :) |
| 07:39.27 | AnduinLothar | yeah, repeated sql transactions are a major slow down |
| 07:39.40 | ScytheBlade1 | 15s on the next round. |
| 07:40.00 | AnduinLothar | you could prolly still speed it up doing the way i said, but you'd have to try |
| 07:40.20 | AnduinLothar | it'd also take more memory |
| 07:40.22 | ScytheBlade1 | I'm not really worried over 15s for ~2MB of text parsing and inserts |
| 07:40.28 | AnduinLothar | k |
| 07:40.29 | ScytheBlade1 | Especially in PHP |
| 07:40.58 | ScytheBlade1 | Though, we'll see how that works once I finish writing inserts for the remaining... 54 matches |
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| 07:41.49 | Guillotine | didn't work :( the damn restore point didn't work |
| 07:42.08 | Corrodias | how could it not work? |
| 07:42.18 | Corrodias | my friend at work had to do that TWICE because of borland C++'s installer |
| 07:42.51 | Guillotine | I don't know. It says that its failing due to an unspecified reason :/ |
| 07:42.56 | Corrodias | well, you at least need %SystemRoot%\system32;%SystemRoot%;%SystemRoot%\System32\Wbem; |
| 07:43.07 | Corrodias | the rest you can add as it occurs to you |
| 07:43.41 | Guillotine | tried running it from multiple restore points on admin and my normal account |
| 07:43.52 | Punkie` | format |
| 07:44.06 | Guillotine | no, its NTFS |
| 07:44.23 | Punkie` | you can still format |
| 07:44.27 | Corrodias | 1) what does that have to do with it? |
| 07:44.35 | Corrodias | and 2) ... what does that have to do with it? |
| 07:44.41 | Guillotine | corrodias: can't make shadow formats with FAT32 |
| 07:44.47 | Guillotine | so the vista system restore tool doesn't work with it |
| 07:44.57 | Guillotine | and I don't want to reformat my whole computer :P |
| 07:45.05 | ScytheBlade1 | Pretty sure that Vista will refuse to install on FAT32. |
| 07:45.08 | Corrodias | i have no idea what a shadow format is nor what vista does |
| 07:45.32 | ScytheBlade1 | If I'm wrong on that matter, and someone in here is running Vista on FAT32, I WILL find a way to get you kickbanned until you convert to NTFS. |
| 07:45.43 | ScytheBlade1 | THAT is a sin. |
| 07:45.53 | Guillotine | lol |
| 07:46.21 | ScytheBlade1 | Go ahead and laugh, that doesn't make me any less wrong. Or you any more right in doing so. |
| 07:46.56 | Guillotine | *shrug* just read a while ago a disclaimer that it didn't work on FAT32 so I figured that that was what he was referring to |
| 07:47.11 | Guillotine | well, hopefully the path you gave me will at least perform the basics Corrodias |
| 07:47.29 | Guillotine | can you think of anything else I might need? Don't think I need a path for drivers |
| 07:47.38 | Thunder_Child | have you tried the backup and restore center? (different from a system restore point) |
| 07:47.45 | Corrodias | well, this was for windows 5.0/5.1/5.2 |
| 07:47.50 | Corrodias | your windows 6, i dunno what it needs |
| 07:48.07 | ScytheBlade1 | Yeah, the Shadow Volume Copy Services requires NTFS's features to operate, namely the multiple disk mirror states (I forget the exact term, it escapes now) |
| 07:48.46 | Guillotine | alright so I just need to figure out which individual programs need it now |
| 07:48.57 | Guillotine | hold on, restarting comp |
| 07:49.25 | Thunder_Child | i wonder when windows systems will stop reporting themselfs as windows nt |
| 07:49.36 | AnduinLothar | does vista? |
| 07:49.45 | ScytheBlade1 | Probably the same time IE stops reporting itself as Mozilla. |
| 07:49.46 | Thunder_Child | yes |
| 07:49.58 | AnduinLothar | oh, right. that's because it still uses the same filesys |
| 07:50.09 | AnduinLothar | was planned to be replaced in vista but scrapped for time |
| 07:50.28 | Thunder_Child | iirc they had planed to rewrite vista from the ground up |
| 07:55.33 | art3mis | NT means enw technology |
| 07:55.35 | art3mis | new |
| 07:55.41 | art3mis | they're never gonna ditch it |
| 07:55.56 | AnduinLothar | reverse compat is a bitch |
| 07:56.11 | ckknight | technically, Vista still is built on the NT base, even though it's evolved beyond it |
| 07:56.18 | ScytheBlade1 | Indeed. |
| 07:56.21 | ScytheBlade1 | All in the kernel. |
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| 07:56.42 | ScytheBlade1 | "Rewriting" was when they moved the NT kernel mainstream, and killed off the 95/98/ME kernel. |
| 07:56.49 | ScytheBlade1 | Best decision EVER. |
| 07:58.00 | art3mis | vista doesnt make me as happy as an upgrade as 2k did |
| 07:58.07 | ScytheBlade1 | qft |
| 07:58.22 | art3mis | 2k was SO much better than nt4 it was crazy |
| 07:58.33 | ScytheBlade1 | Never mind it lacked all of the GUI "fluff" |
| 07:58.36 | art3mis | without losing all the things that made nt stable and good |
| 07:58.37 | ScytheBlade1 | Still their best OS to date imo |
| 07:58.41 | art3mis | yup |
| 07:59.01 | ScytheBlade1 | You hit F3 to search, and a little dog didn't walk up trying to help you. |
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| 07:59.12 | ScytheBlade1 | You simply typed in what you were looking for, and pressed enter. Done deal. |
| 07:59.16 | Arrowmaster | rofl |
| 08:00.04 | Corrodias | you can configure xp/2k3 to do it that way, too |
| 08:00.09 | ScytheBlade1 | Only to a point. |
| 08:00.12 | ScytheBlade1 | Trust me, I've tried |
| 08:00.20 | Corrodias | okay, i have to press "l" before i can type in my search |
| 08:00.20 | ScytheBlade1 | 2k > XP/2k3 for file searching |
| 08:00.40 | ScytheBlade1 | Yup, and I've never forgiven MS for that :P |
| 08:00.41 | Corrodias | saving a single keystroke is quite a marginal thing |
| 08:00.58 | Corrodias | well, it isn't, but t.. hang on |
| 08:01.08 | ScytheBlade1 | Have you EVER pressed anything other than 'l' when searching? |
| 08:01.09 | ScytheBlade1 | No? |
| 08:01.10 | Corrodias | my taskbar keeps popping up because an IM con.. contact keeps talking |
| 08:01.12 | ScytheBlade1 | Sounds stupid to me. |
| 08:02.39 | Corrodias | oh, hang on. on XP i had to press l |
| 08:02.52 | ScytheBlade1 | XP and above |
| 08:02.53 | Corrodias | i just tried on 2k3 and i don't. keep in mind that i search about once every 2 months |
| 08:02.59 | ScytheBlade1 | Have yet to use Vista, to be fair |
| 08:03.16 | Corrodias | it goes straight to the 'enter filename to search for' kind of box |
| 08:05.00 | AnduinLothar | why does SetFont trigger OnTextChange |
| 08:05.10 | AnduinLothar | SetFontObject too |
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| 08:06.37 | Guillotine | well, I at least have it working |
| 08:06.50 | Guillotine | though I'll probably find a couple more common files folders I'll need to add |
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| 08:10.41 | sag_ich_nicht | [10:05] <+AnduinLothar> why does SetFont trigger OnTextChange <--because SetFont changes the font of the text, meaning the text has changed, triggering OnTextChange |
| 08:10.44 | sag_ich_nicht | (my guess) |
| 08:10.56 | AnduinLothar | ttext ~= font imo |
| 08:11.12 | AnduinLothar | text is the string content imo |
| 08:12.05 | AnduinLothar | OnTextChange doesn't fire untill sequential code has finished. there's no reason it should fire multiple times because i called more than 1 of setfont, setfontobject or settext |
| 08:21.16 | Guillotine | anybody know how to use the GNU Compiler Collection (gcc)? |
| 08:21.33 | Guillotine | to compile c programs |
| 08:21.43 | krka | gcc program.c |
| 08:22.22 | ScytheBlade1 | http://internetisseriousbusiness.com/ |
| 08:22.27 | Guillotine | thats what I thought. but it gives an error "gcc: CreateProcess: No such file or directory" |
| 08:22.33 | krka | O_o |
| 08:22.45 | AnduinLothar | cmd-w closes the window. win |
| 08:22.47 | krka | sounds like you haven't got gcc in your path |
| 08:23.02 | Guillotine | gcc.exe is in my path |
| 08:23.09 | Guillotine | it runs gcc |
| 08:23.36 | ScytheBlade1 | AnduinLothar, view the source... it's nasty |
| 08:23.41 | krka | maybe something else is missing |
| 08:23.46 | Guillotine | not sure what the error means since if I give a non-existant file name, it gives a different error along with the other. "gcc: no input files" |
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| 08:25.58 | Guillotine | ah, figured it out |
| 08:26.00 | Guillotine | another vista problem |
| 08:26.02 | Guillotine | got it fixed |
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| 08:50.48 | [dRaCo] | so this karazhan raid leader of mine brought this elemental shaman to our gruul raid, equipment from heroics, LW, Karazhan. and now that guy only some ~550 dps in the gruul fight. anyone with elemental shamans in their raid and some data to compare? |
| 08:52.05 | AnduinLothar | did he run out of mana? |
| 08:52.36 | [Ammo] | probably aggro control |
| 08:52.52 | [dRaCo] | well, won't hope. he had a SP in his group |
| 08:53.01 | [dRaCo] | and he didnt show in the aggro top 10 |
| 08:53.06 | Punkie` | he sucks |
| 08:53.07 | [Ammo] | he sucks |
| 08:53.25 | AnduinLothar | was it his 1st gruul? |
| 08:53.33 | [dRaCo] | second time, iirc |
| 08:54.05 | [dRaCo] | thought so myself, just wanted someone to agree with me before I start bashing him :> |
| 08:54.08 | AnduinLothar | was he gettign silenced standing too close? |
| 08:54.25 | [dRaCo] | maybe once or twice |
| 08:54.57 | Punkie` | I don't think elemental shamans are very useful anyway |
| 08:55.36 | [dRaCo] | their totem is great if the group has the equipment to drop some hit for dmg/crit |
| 08:55.37 | AnduinLothar | wad he keeping wf up for melee? |
| 08:55.39 | AnduinLothar | was* |
| 08:55.56 | AnduinLothar | or tranquil air |
| 08:56.20 | [dRaCo] | caster group, just mana reg, spell dmg and hit/crit |
| 08:57.04 | AnduinLothar | well, without seeing more data i'd just say he's either bad at his spec or just not good at the encounter |
| 08:57.15 | Punkie` | [dRaCo]: but the benefit you gain by 1 enhancement shamans poor dps and a crappy totem is not as much as you would gain from a proper DPS class :p |
| 08:57.28 | [dRaCo] | I'll get a complete combatlog next time :) |
| 08:57.52 | [dRaCo] | punkie: elemental. |
| 08:58.20 | Punkie` | yeah elemental |
| 08:58.24 | Punkie` | enhancement shamans rule! |
| 08:58.29 | [dRaCo] | ! |
| 08:58.58 | AnduinLothar | ele are better for raiding, yeah |
| 08:58.58 | AnduinLothar | er |
| 08:58.58 | AnduinLothar | enhance* |
| 08:59.00 | [dRaCo] | is elemental dps really that bad? |
| 08:59.01 | AnduinLothar | ele are better for arena afaik |
| 08:59.18 | [dRaCo] | never had one besides the above mentioned since... mc |
| 08:59.25 | Punkie` | elemental is a terrible pve spec |
| 08:59.44 | AnduinLothar | i'm guessing it's just hard to play well, like ret |
| 08:59.51 | AnduinLothar | but i could be wrong |
| 09:00.08 | AnduinLothar | ret also needs really good gear to be useful |
| 09:01.05 | [dRaCo] | cant see what's so hard about playing elemental |
| 09:01.16 | Punkie` | there is nothing really hard |
| 09:01.18 | Punkie` | it just sucks |
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| 09:33.27 | AnduinLothar | yay v1.1 |
| 09:33.28 | AnduinLothar | http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info5438-ChatEdit.html |
| 09:37.12 | Punkie` | Yatta! |
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| 10:05.41 | sag_ich_nicht | AnduinLothar that's nice, thanks |
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| 10:28.50 | Bam__ | anybody who was around at release of WoW remember if the hardware-event requirement for spells casts has always been there or if it was introduced in some later patch? |
| 10:33.33 | Bam__ | ah no.. much earlier than that for sure :) |
| 10:33.52 | bleeter | I'm prolly thinking of something tangental ;) |
| 10:34.39 | Bam__ | hehe.. just wondering if you could ever call something like CastSpellByName from an event handler for example |
| 10:35.03 | Bam__ | I doubt it myself... would have been too easy to make bots |
| 10:46.55 | Kaso | i seem to remeber it was added in beta, but im not sure of that |
| 10:47.09 | Bam__ | okk |
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| 11:52.50 | JoshBorke | Shirik: morning, did you sleep well? |
| 11:54.25 | Shirik | =( |
| 11:54.32 | Shirik | You didn't come to #conspiracy and try to ping me |
| 11:54.36 | Shirik | I had the command all ready for you |
| 11:55.15 | JoshBorke | lol |
| 11:56.10 | Shirik | anyway off to class |
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| 12:09.25 | zenzelezz | you know, there are two things I hate about male tennis |
| 12:09.31 | zenzelezz | the first is the males, the second is the tennis |
| 12:09.39 | zenzelezz | at least in female tennis there's something to watch |
| 12:09.55 | krka | insightful comment of the day |
| 12:21.27 | JoshBorke | Cairenn: morning |
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| 12:41.57 | bleeter | who's with me in petitioning Blizz to get the weapon chain droprate upped? |
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| 12:43.02 | zenzelezz | the plan? |
| 12:43.17 | bleeter | aye |
| 12:43.31 | zenzelezz | I didn't think it was that low, I only had to pay 30g for mine |
| 12:43.31 | bleeter | would still seem to be as rare as hens teeth |
| 12:43.42 | zenzelezz | that's odd |
| 12:44.04 | zenzelezz | when BC hit it seemed like Crusader started dropping like crazy, I expected they'd retuned old recipe drop rates |
| 12:44.41 | bleeter | thing is, it's a green 190 skill recipe, and it certainly don't appear to be a green quality droprate |
| 12:44.54 | bleeter | given it's the only disarm immunity thing I can think of.... etc, ;) |
| 12:44.55 | zenzelezz | that is true, should be blue at least |
| 12:45.20 | zenzelezz | the Mithril SHield Spike recipe is blue but I see it all the time, the Thorium is green but I rarely ever see it |
| 12:48.56 | zenzelezz | weapon chain is a green plan for a white item, right? Not even a green item like the mithril spurs |
| 12:51.21 | bleeter | yeah, green plan, white item |
| 12:51.53 | bleeter | which I could live with, if there were diminishing returns on it's effect above say lvl 55 or 60, and a BC recipe in Outlands |
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| 12:58.03 | bleeter | quick, someone check the health of the folks @ blizz, these weekly restarts are becoming habitual! |
| 13:00.36 | Gngsk | wait, doesn't habitual mean everyday? |
| 13:00.57 | Cidan | ...no? |
| 13:00.58 | Gngsk | oh, guess not |
| 13:01.00 | Gngsk | lol |
| 13:01.08 | Gngsk | learning is fun! |
| 13:01.09 | Cidan | Habitual means... habitual. |
| 13:02.13 | amro_ | as in a habit |
| 13:02.17 | Gngsk | yah |
| 13:02.30 | Gngsk | only time I ever heard it used was in context of days |
| 13:03.38 | |Jelly| | http://www.m-w.com/cgi-bin/dictionary?sourceid=Mozilla-search&va=habitual |
| 13:04.11 | Gngsk | COOL! |
| 13:04.51 | |Jelly| | I know, right. |
| 13:04.56 | Gngsk | http://www.m-w.com/cgi-bin/dictionary?sourceid=Mozilla-search&va=sarcastic |
| 13:05.04 | Cidan | HAH |
| 13:05.35 | bleeter | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:05.47 | |Jelly| | http://www.m-w.com/cgi-bin/dictionary?sourceid=Mozilla-search&va=not+really |
| 13:06.03 | bleeter | what a shitty dictionarry |
| 13:06.07 | bleeter | rrrr |
| 13:07.27 | zenzelezz | woot, finally summer is over and MacGyver is back on TV |
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| 13:12.43 | |Jelly| | MORNING PEPPY! |
| 13:13.02 | Lopeppeppy | Heyo, |Jelly|mon. |
| 13:13.16 | bleeter | woohoo! it's peppytime! |
| 13:13.25 | |Jelly| | It's Monday! |
| 13:13.45 | zenzelezz | MacGyver and Lopeppeppy, this day just keeps getting better :-o |
| 13:14.08 | Lopeppeppy | No, Jelly, no more Mondayness. Today was being Tuesday for me, it was joyful and spiffy. Please don't make me go back? |
| 13:14.17 | |Jelly| | Wow. |
| 13:14.23 | |Jelly| | It is...Tuesday, isn't it? |
| 13:14.29 | |Jelly| | Maybe I need to go back to bed. |
| 13:14.41 | Lopeppeppy | Today will still be Tuesday when you wake up. I think. |
| 13:14.43 | zenzelezz | \o/ |
| 13:15.00 | |Jelly| | Yeah but maybe I'll be ready to face Tuesday. |
| 13:15.15 | |Jelly| | Whereas, I'm OBVIOUSLY not ready to even accept it yet. |
| 13:15.35 | Lopeppeppy | I'm sorry, |Jelly|... there's a therapy session at 2pmEST if you'd care to attend. |
| 13:15.47 | |Jelly| | Will you be there? /tear |
| 13:16.46 | Lopeppeppy | If I'm unleashed from work, perhaps. But I was out half of last week, so I'm pretty firmly chained to my desk now. |
| 13:16.53 | bleeter | Tuesday's pretty bland, trust me |
| 13:16.55 | Lopeppeppy | They caught me, I can't get away again so easily. |
| 13:17.19 | |Jelly| | This information makes me sad. |
| 13:18.06 | |Jelly| | So now that it's established that it's in fact Tuesday, how was everyone's Labor Day? |
| 13:18.23 | bleeter | 42 mins until wed |
| 13:18.32 | zenzelezz | what's Labor Day? |
| 13:19.26 | |Jelly| | http://www.m-w.com/cgi-bin/dictionary?sourceid=Mozilla-search&va=labor+day :P |
| 13:19.47 | zenzelezz | ah, so it is our 1st May |
| 13:20.10 | |Jelly| | I suppose. |
| 13:20.29 | Lopeppeppy | I slept, ate cookies, slept, and then went to bed again. |
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| 13:20.45 | |Jelly| | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:21.10 | zenzelezz | in honor of all the hard workers, Norwegian youth use the evening/night of 30th April to get drunk for 1st May |
| 13:21.37 | |Jelly| | !c us burning legion kevz |
| 13:21.39 | ThraeBot | |Jelly|: Kevz, Level 70 Undead Warlock (27/34/0). 6551 HP; 6175 Mana; 111 mana regen; 52 spell crit; 38 spell hit; 323 +spell dmg/heal; 4.28% dodge; 33 resilience; 10 shadow resist (+10);[[ TBR: 853 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/2f6qja ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/2pqv4m ][ Updated: Tue Sep 4 09:32:57 2007 ]] |
| 13:21.50 | |Jelly| | <PROTECTED> |
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| 13:22.35 | bleeter | zenzelezz: yeah, they can't use 1st May for Labor Day, 'coz that's what the Commies do ;) |
| 13:23.16 | zenzelezz | oh yeah, I forget how the Americans distrust socialism |
| 13:23.34 | bleeter | distrust would seem a mild description |
| 13:23.43 | zenzelezz | politically correct ;) |
| 13:23.49 | bleeter | fair nuff ;) |
| 13:24.02 | zenzelezz | most politically correct speak sucks... but there are some fun ones |
| 13:24.21 | zenzelezz | like "a grave situation exists between us" when you want to launch a war on another country |
| 13:25.10 | |Jelly| | Soft targets! |
| 13:25.39 | zenzelezz | I learned quite a bit of political jargon from "The rise and fall of the Third Reich" o_O They were quite good at it back in the 30s |
| 13:27.44 | Lopeppeppy | There are so many ways to say what you don't mean, and mean what you're really not actually saying out loud. |
| 13:28.04 | zenzelezz | that's what makes it so fun |
| 13:28.10 | zenzelezz | always loved word play :-o |
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| 13:36.57 | lolinternet | [12:28] <Bam__> anybody who was around at release of WoW remember if the hardware-event requirement for spells casts has always been there or if it was introduced in some later patch? <--lol, it was added in patch 1.9, before that you could do pretty much anything, autowalking bots, anything |
| 13:40.08 | zenzelezz | right about now there should be a hungry kitty on my doorstep, better check before she comes outside my window to scream |
| 13:42.25 | zenzelezz | and I was quite right |
| 13:43.40 | Lopeppeppy | Always feed the cat. Always. |
| 13:44.33 | Kalroth | Get a dog if that cat is bugging you |
| 13:44.57 | zenzelezz | if it was a dog I would have to be outside with it |
| 13:45.20 | zenzelezz | always feed the cat around this time of day. If she had her way she'd be fed once every hour |
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| 14:08.18 | Wobin | oh thank god |
| 14:08.23 | Wobin | After... 3 days of farming |
| 14:08.29 | Wobin | Khorium Belt recipe is mine =P |
| 14:08.35 | zenzelezz | grats |
| 14:08.37 | Wobin | I never want to see another Murkblood raider =P |
| 14:08.50 | zenzelezz | isn't that item BoE when crafted? |
| 14:09.12 | Wobin | yep |
| 14:09.33 | Wobin | http://www.wowhead.com/?item=23524#comments |
| 14:11.25 | zenzelezz | are you just one of those guys who prefer to craft your own stuff then? :-o |
| 14:11.29 | Wobin | no |
| 14:11.34 | Wobin | I'm using it to grind to 370 |
| 14:11.45 | zenzelezz | oh, I see, easy mats? |
| 14:11.49 | Wobin | well |
| 14:11.51 | Wobin | possibly =) |
| 14:11.51 | zenzelezz | "easy" |
| 14:11.57 | zenzelezz | as in easier than the alternatives |
| 14:12.00 | Wobin | yeah |
| 14:12.15 | zenzelezz | Water and Mana, not bad |
| 14:12.24 | Wobin | kinda, I'd need honoured Aldor for the other recipe |
| 14:12.44 | zenzelezz | I ended up doing 370->375 with two Felsteel Reapers and three Flamebane somethings |
| 14:13.00 | zenzelezz | didn't want to farm so many Primal Fires, but then came Ogri'la |
| 14:13.04 | Wobin | I might try for the boots to get to 375 |
| 14:13.29 | Wobin | I'll still need 30 khorium |
| 14:13.33 | Wobin | to get to 370 =P |
| 14:13.53 | Wobin | by that time I hopefully will have done enough heroics to get to dragonmaw |
| 14:14.12 | Wobin | but I can't even wield my drakefist yet =) |
| 14:15.04 | zenzelezz | 30 bars or ores? |
| 14:15.09 | Wobin | bars |
| 14:15.22 | Wobin | and another 20 if I use the boots to get to 375 |
| 14:15.36 | Wobin | Maybe I -should- get aldor rep =P |
| 14:15.42 | Wobin | But I'd need revered |
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| 14:16.58 | Wobin | that would only involve... 160 fel iron 70 primal water and 60 primal fire |
| 14:17.45 | zenzelezz | fel iron is easy, just fly around Hellfire for a few hours, water isn't tough either... fire can be worse, but the Ogri'la elementals aren't usually too farmed outside of peak hours and have decent drop rate |
| 14:17.54 | Wobin | instead of 50 khorium bars, and 35 water and mana |
| 14:19.25 | Wobin | or I could farm the felsteel gloves pattern |
| 14:19.38 | Wobin | which is 6 felsteel a level |
| 14:19.39 | zenzelezz | khorium might be cheaper than aldor rep items |
| 14:19.49 | Wobin | yeah, undoubtedly =) |
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| 14:55.02 | art3mis | cladhaire: ill talk in here since it's not really the right channel over there |
| 14:55.27 | cladhaire | heh |
| 14:55.32 | art3mis | cladhaire: if you could make "buttons" as it were that you could click to expand/retract |
| 14:55.39 | art3mis | that would be rad |
| 14:55.46 | cladhaire | what kind of buttons? |
| 14:55.57 | art3mis | action buttons menu buttons all that stuff |
| 14:56.07 | cladhaire | menu buttons are absolutely possible |
| 14:56.17 | cladhaire | action buttons arent, due to the in-combat restrictions |
| 14:56.30 | cladhaire | and i doubt we'll ever have a secure template that lets us do cosine interpolation sliding on a set of buttons :P |
| 14:56.32 | art3mis | just a thin tail along an edge of a window |
| 14:57.01 | art3mis | click the slider tab out pops the menu where you can enable disable stuff open context menus have a read out, have spell sets |
| 14:57.12 | art3mis | that would be groovy |
| 14:57.20 | art3mis | well auctioneer uses the same sorta thing |
| 14:57.25 | art3mis | thats what made me think of it |
| 14:58.03 | art3mis | the new one has a yellow tab ont he left side of the display, click it and out slides the 2 click buttons to open settings |
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| 15:05.27 | Wraanger | question ...what i am doing wrong ? http://wowi.pastey.net/73390 all i am trying to do is to make names class-colored ..but it throws an error saying "trying to index upvalue "color" which is nil" |
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| 15:06.33 | [Ammo] | Wraanger: color is aparantly set to nil |
| 15:06.40 | [Ammo] | which means one of the returns that you use is nil |
| 15:06.49 | [Ammo] | I'd say write it out and debug it more |
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| 15:27.41 | ts|skrom | wow, never had so much trouble getting connected >< |
| 15:28.01 | Lopeppeppy | It's been one of those days, I thinks. |
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| 15:33.17 | Valaron|Work | clear |
| 15:33.19 | Valaron|Work | Wee! |
| 15:33.25 | cog|work | Woo! |
| 15:33.28 | Lopeppeppy | Yee! |
| 15:33.31 | cog|work | opaque |
| 15:33.42 | cog|work | <.< |
| 15:33.45 | Valaron|Work | My mail server keeps crashing. |
| 15:33.47 | art3mis | dodecahedrom! |
| 15:34.02 | cog|work | truncated icosahedron |
| 15:34.03 | art3mis | yes thats right with an M! |
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| 15:34.39 | Lopeppeppy | Pencil. |
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| 15:36.23 | cog|work | http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Olympus/7695/PENCIL.HTM |
| 15:37.10 | Lopeppeppy | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pencil |
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| 15:39.05 | Shirik|Ecole | Cide: ping |
| 15:39.10 | Cide | pong |
| 15:39.15 | Shirik|Ecole | strange request |
| 15:39.23 | Shirik|Ecole | you know how you can do >>> http://wowi.pastey.net/2908510985125 |
| 15:39.28 | Shirik|Ecole | and execute something? |
| 15:39.38 | Cide | yes |
| 15:39.56 | Shirik|Ecole | Just thought of this: Can we have a function to run it? That way we could do something like |
| 15:40.16 | Shirik|Ecole | >>> foo = 4; runurl[[http://wowi.pastey.net/Somethingthatneedsafoo]] |
| 15:40.16 | Cide | Shirik|Ecole: [string "foo = 4; runurl[[http://wowi.pastey.net/Som..."]:1: attempt to call global 'runurl' (a nil value) |
| 15:40.38 | Cide | hmm |
| 15:40.45 | Shirik|Ecole | I actually thought of it the other day when I did this: |
| 15:40.57 | Shirik|Ecole | >>> http://wowi.pastey.net/73147 |
| 15:41.18 | Shirik|Ecole | and thought of how annoying it was to have to go into the code and add in the initialization stuff even though it wouldn't be in the end produt |
| 15:41.40 | Shirik|Ecole | because pastey == tehsux |
| 15:42.24 | Cide | not yet |
| 15:42.39 | Shirik|Ecole | Could not connect to MySQL server! |
| 15:42.43 | Shirik|Ecole | <3 Pastey |
| 15:43.08 | Cide | hmm |
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| 15:44.16 | Shirik|Ecole | I mean I imagine it can't be too too difficult - it's a matter of exposing a function at my best (albeit black box) guess |
| 15:44.23 | Shirik|Ecole | I assume you have a function that handles that ase |
| 15:44.24 | Shirik|Ecole | case* |
| 15:44.40 | Cide | except |
| 15:45.00 | Cide | python is handling the i/o |
| 15:45.04 | Shirik|Ecole | ah |
| 15:45.14 | Shirik|Ecole | I bet you wish you hadn't coded in python now!! |
| 15:45.16 | Shirik|Ecole | nyahh! |
| 15:45.19 | Cide | nah :) |
| 15:45.36 | Shirik|Ecole | If only something like JNE existed for Lua :) |
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| 15:49.03 | Valaron|Work | If the email server dies again, I'm going to be pissed. |
| 15:49.12 | Valaron|Work | Way to come back from a 3-day vacation. |
| 15:50.44 | cog|work | fascinating... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZyTwLAW-Z8c |
| 15:50.57 | Valaron|Work | I was on a floating campsite all weekend. It was swaying back and forth, and I slept under the stars. It still feels like I'm swaying back and forth. |
| 15:51.22 | Lopeppeppy | I had a cabin and no water, but I was out LARPing all weekend. I still feel like I'm being attacked by trolls. |
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| 15:53.19 | Cide | why is pastey down? :/ |
| 15:53.37 | Cidan- | :( |
| 15:53.42 | Cidan- | lolidunno? |
| 15:53.56 | lolinternet | is that loli dunno or lol i dunno? :P |
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| 15:55.19 | Cide | Shirik|Ecole: maybe this'll be too much of a hack, we'll see |
| 15:55.31 | Shirik|Ecole | maybe if pastey actually worked we'd know :P |
| 15:55.53 | Cidan- | lol |
| 15:55.54 | Cidan- | :x |
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| 15:55.58 | Cidan- | you figure it out sag |
| 15:57.04 | sag_ich_nicht | that is because i am awesome |
| 15:57.09 | sag_ich_nicht | also |
| 15:57.11 | sag_ich_nicht | pastey isn't down |
| 15:57.15 | sag_ich_nicht | just fsckin slow |
| 15:57.19 | Shirik|Ecole | Could not connect to MySQL server! |
| 15:57.22 | Shirik|Ecole | that looks pretty "down" to me |
| 15:57.28 | Cidan- | didn't know pastey could fsck. |
| 15:57.29 | sag_ich_nicht | not down |
| 15:57.30 | Cidan- | Neat. |
| 15:57.32 | sag_ich_nicht | i just tried |
| 15:57.42 | sag_ich_nicht | Cidan all linux machines can fsck. |
| 15:57.54 | sag_ich_nicht | pastey works fine for me again |
| 15:57.58 | sag_ich_nicht | told you it was just a slowdown |
| 15:58.26 | Shirik|Ecole | ~sex |
| 15:58.27 | purl | updatedb; locate; talk; date; cd; strip; look; touch; finger; unzip; uptime; gawk; head; apt-get install condom; mount; fsck; gasp; more; yes; yes; yes; more; umount; apt-get remove --purge condom; make clean; sleep, or super extractor, http://sf.net/projects/sex/ |
| 15:58.49 | Cidan- | that's so |
| 15:58.50 | Cidan- | so |
| 15:58.51 | Cidan- | wrong. |
| 15:59.01 | Shirik|Ecole | heh |
| 16:00.00 | Cide | >>> http://wowi.pastey.net/73147 |
| 16:00.00 | Cide | Cide: [string "http://wowi.pastey.net/73147"]:1: '<name>' expected near '/' |
| 16:00.06 | Shirik|Ecole | fail. |
| 16:00.15 | Cide | oops |
| 16:00.31 | Cide | >>> http://wowi.pastey.net/73147 |
| 16:00.31 | Cide | Cide: [string "http://wowi.pastey.net/73147"]:1: '<name>' expected near '/' |
| 16:00.33 | Cide | err |
| 16:00.40 | Cide | >>> http://wowi.pastey.net/73147 |
| 16:00.43 | Shirik|Ecole | it looks like it's trying to run that as lua code |
| 16:00.46 | Shirik|Ecole | instead of getting the url |
| 16:00.58 | Cide | >>> http://wowi.pastey.net/73147 |
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| 16:01.18 | Cidan- | hmm |
| 16:01.19 | Cide | yeah, I reworked the pastey fetch logic |
| 16:01.25 | Cide | someone try that? |
| 16:01.31 | Shirik|Ecole | pastey = fail right now |
| 16:01.32 | Shirik|Ecole | imo |
| 16:01.34 | Cidan- | >>> http://wowi.pastey.net/73147 |
| 16:01.52 | Cidan- | lulz? |
| 16:02.02 | playtime3 | guys, im looking for a shadow priest UI anyone can direct me to the corrext place |
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| 16:02.06 | Shirik|Ecole | Cidan DoSed Cide |
| 16:02.15 | Cidan- | playtime3: www.wowinterface.com |
| 16:02.21 | Cide | I DoSed myself |
| 16:02.22 | Shirik|Ecole | tcp stack overflow, waiting on too many pasteys |
| 16:02.26 | Cidan- | >>> http://wowi.pastey.net/73147 |
| 16:02.27 | Cide | pastey down again? argh |
| 16:02.30 | Cidan- | >>> http://wowi.pastey.net/73147 |
| 16:02.32 | Cidan- | :D |
| 16:02.38 | playtime3 | Cide; I've try that place already |
| 16:02.47 | Shirik|Ecole | playtime3: wowinterface.com :) |
| 16:02.49 | Shirik|Ecole | tons of choices |
| 16:02.51 | Cidan- | playtime3: Well, you're not looking hard enough. |
| 16:02.52 | Shirik|Ecole | And now, I shall go to my lab |
| 16:02.57 | Shirik|Ecole | this should be... fun |
| 16:03.00 | sag_ich_nicht | you have no lab |
| 16:03.03 | Cidan- | I should hope so |
| 16:03.03 | Shirik|Ecole | I teach a lab |
| 16:03.04 | sag_ich_nicht | all you have is a cellar |
| 16:03.05 | sag_ich_nicht | admit it |
| 16:03.18 | Shirik|Ecole | all freshmen |
| 16:03.19 | Lopeppeppy | playtime3: Most times, people need to put together what works for them. There are far, far fewer "pre-made" UI's out there, because customizable > takeout |
| 16:03.20 | playtime3 | Anyone shadow priest out here that would like to recommend me one? |
| 16:03.20 | sag_ich_nicht | you do not have a lab. you have a class. quit lying. only mad scientist have a lab |
| 16:03.21 | Cidan- | Lab, as in, school. |
| 16:03.23 | Shirik|Ecole | whom have no clue what Java is |
| 16:03.24 | sag_ich_nicht | are you a mad scientist? |
| 16:03.25 | sag_ich_nicht | wait |
| 16:03.28 | sag_ich_nicht | i take that question back. |
| 16:03.33 | Cide | Cidan-: [string "http://wowi.pastey.net/73147"]:1: '<name>' expected near '/' |
| 16:03.40 | Cidan- | hah |
| 16:03.41 | Shirik|Ecole | anyway /disappear |
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| 16:04.55 | *** mode/#wowi-lounge [+v Cide] by ChanServ |
| 16:05.15 | Cide | >>> http://wowi.pastey.net/73147 |
| 16:05.17 | Cide | Cide: [string "http://wowi.pastey.net/73147"]:1: '<name>' expected near '/' |
| 16:05.19 | Cide | >>> http://wowi.pastey.net/73147 |
| 16:05.21 | Cide | Cide: [string "http://wowi.pastey.net/73147"]:1: '<name>' expected near '/' |
| 16:05.22 | playtime3 | is there a shadow priest channel on this irc server? |
| 16:05.27 | art3mis | playtime3: make yer own ;P |
| 16:05.43 | art3mis | there are no super awesomely good UI's other than the ones you make |
| 16:05.45 | playtime3 | art3mis: lol |
| 16:05.48 | Cide | >>> http://wowi.pastey.net/73147 |
| 16:05.49 | Cide | Cide: 34502 |
| 16:05.53 | art3mis | most of the premadfes are just that, created for the author |
| 16:05.57 | Cide | finally |
| 16:06.00 | *** join/#wowi-lounge Elkano (n=elkano@ip-213-135-2-183.handshake.de) |
| 16:06.07 | Cide | >>> <<http://wowi.pastey.net/73147>> |
| 16:06.14 | Cide | interesting |
| 16:06.24 | art3mis | youll find that of all the premades that exist most have a layout youlike but the addon choices are ass or overkill |
| 16:06.38 | Valaron|Work | fuck :( |
| 16:07.21 | playtime3 | :( |
| 16:07.21 | art3mis | playtime3: if you want a semi decent one for a basic look, just get mazzles ui |
| 16:07.21 | Cide | >>> <<http://wowi.pastey.net/73147>> |
| 16:07.21 | art3mis | but il wanr you now he's got horrid choices for addons included |
| 16:07.21 | Cide | Cide: 34502 |
| 16:07.21 | Lopeppeppy | playtime3: You should look for both priest aspects and perhaps mage/warlock addons -- a shadow priest is a mix of both sorts. You need to be ready to pinch heal, but still have the ability to monitor your DPS. |
| 16:07.34 | Cide | Shirik|Ecole: ping |
| 16:07.36 | Lopeppeppy | It ain't easy, being green. |
| 16:07.48 | art3mis | Lopeppeppy: but we're sexy so who cares ;P |
| 16:07.53 | playtime3 | I've seen a few clips on youtube that keep track of VT, and VE just dont know what addon it is |
| 16:08.02 | Lopeppeppy | This could be true, art3mis. |
| 16:08.05 | art3mis | if it dont glow purpley/black it's not worth crap ;) |
| 16:08.31 | playtime3 | Any recommendation on the names etc.. |
| 16:08.33 | Lopeppeppy | playtime3 - that could just be SCT/SCTD. Look up keywords "vampiric" on the sites, see what you get. |
| 16:08.44 | art3mis | playtime3: as an example to futher my point http://www.gothi.ca/Stuff/hellokitty-ui.jpg |
| 16:08.56 | art3mis | thats what i use for my spriest as well ;) |
| 16:09.18 | art3mis | might check into hemlock and necronomicon(??) |
| 16:09.31 | art3mis | both are lock ui;'s but should cover "most" of the spriest stuff as well |
| 16:09.40 | art3mis | at least i think its hemlock |
| 16:10.27 | playtime3 | sweet, I will have to investigate on some of the lock UI |
| 16:10.39 | Cide | >>> foo="hi"; <<http://wowi.pastey.net/73393>> |
| 16:10.41 | Cide | Cide: "hi" |
| 16:10.41 | Lopeppeppy | Shadow priest, warlock, druid, rogue.... all of mine use the same addons. *shrug* |
| 16:10.46 | Cide | >>> bar="hi"; <<http://wowi.pastey.net/73394>> |
| 16:10.47 | Cide | Cide: [string "bar="hi"; foo = bar..."]:2: unexpected symbol near '<' |
| 16:10.54 | playtime3 | i've seen lots of good one that people use on youtube, only thing is i dont know the name. |
| 16:11.25 | cog|work | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=1371542196 |
| 16:11.28 | Lopeppeppy | Take a screenshot of the video you like and post it on the UI/Macros forum for people to look at. (warning, don't link the video, take the screenie if you want answers). |
| 16:13.07 | Wraanger | playtime3: try to visit www.omgphatloots.org .... there are tons of good UI there ..with explanation |
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| 16:13.53 | playtime3 | ta :) |
| 16:13.57 | Cide | >>> bar="hi"; <<http://wowi.pastey.net/73394>> |
| 16:14.00 | Cide | Cide: "hi" |
| 16:14.23 | Cide | not sure if that syntax is too much of a hack though :/ |
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| 16:20.04 | Cidan- | >>> http://wowi.pastey.net/73147 |
| 16:20.07 | Cide | Cidan-: 34502 |
| 16:20.14 | Cidan- | wahoo? |
| 16:20.21 | Cide | hmm? |
| 16:20.33 | Cidan- | just messing around |
| 16:20.37 | Cide | ah |
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| 16:27.09 | Shirik|Ecole | 122:262:32 » 12[notice from ChanServ12]: Contact: Shirik, last seen: 4 years 9 weeks 5 days (4h 24m 33s) ago |
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| 16:27.13 | Shirik|Ecole | what the heck |
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| 16:31.41 | Cide | Shirik|Ecole: did you see my addition? |
| 16:31.47 | Shirik|Ecole | not really |
| 16:31.55 | Cide | not sure if I want to keep it yet |
| 16:32.02 | Cide | >>> foo="hi"; <<http://wowi.pastey.net/73393>> |
| 16:32.03 | Cide | Cide: "hi" |
| 16:33.00 | Polarina | >>> <<http://wowi.pastey.net/73393>> |
| 16:33.02 | Cide | Polarina: nil |
| 16:34.07 | Polarina | >>> local s = "a,"; for i=1,18 do s = s..s end print(loadstring("local a;"..s.."a=nil", "")) |
| 16:34.16 | Cide | Polarina: |
| 16:34.21 | Cide | you broke lua.exe |
| 16:34.25 | Polarina | I did? |
| 16:34.29 | Cide | apparently |
| 16:34.30 | Polarina | Odd. |
| 16:34.33 | Punkie` | lol |
| 16:35.14 | Shirik|Ecole | what happened? |
| 16:35.21 | Cide | no idea |
| 16:35.25 | Shirik|Ecole | well, it crashed? |
| 16:35.29 | Cide | yes |
| 16:35.31 | sag_ich_nicht | wow |
| 16:35.48 | Punkie` | does it crash cladbot? :o |
| 16:35.55 | Cide | >>> local s = "a,"; for i=1,18 do s = s..s end print("local a;"..s.."a=nil") |
| 16:35.55 | Cide | Cide: "local a;a,a,a,a,a,a,a,a,a,a,a,a,a,a,a,a,a,a,a,a,a,a,a,a,a,a,a,a,a,a,a,a,a,a,a,a,a,a,a,a,a,a,a,a,a,a,a,a,a,a,a,a,a,a,a,a,a,a,a,a,a,a,a,a,a,a,a,a,a,a,a,a,a,a,a,a,a,a,a,a,a,a,a,a,a,a,a,a,a,a,a,a,a,a,a,a... (exceeded 200 characters) |
| 16:35.59 | Polarina | Do /script local s = "a,"; for i=1,18 do s = s..s end print(loadstring("local a;"..s.."a=nil", "")) in WoW.. |
| 16:36.09 | Shirik|Ecole | oh.. wow |
| 16:36.10 | Shirik|Ecole | I bet |
| 16:36.13 | Shirik|Ecole | oh this is going to be hot |
| 16:37.04 | Shirik|Ecole | that's what I thought |
| 16:37.27 | Shirik|Ecole | The thread 'Win32 Thread' (0x68c) has exited with code 0 (0x0). |
| 16:37.27 | Shirik|Ecole | First-chance exception at 0x100077df in lua5.1.exe: 0xC00000FD: Stack overflow. |
| 16:37.28 | Shirik|Ecole | Unhandled exception at 0x100077df in lua5.1.exe: 0xC00000FD: Stack overflow. |
| 16:37.28 | Shirik|Ecole | First-chance exception at 0x100077e1 in lua5.1.exe: 0xC0000005: Access violation writing location 0x00030ffc. |
| 16:37.38 | Polarina | o.O |
| 16:38.16 | sag_ich_nicht | nice |
| 16:38.23 | sag_ich_nicht | lemme try what happens with it in WoW |
| 16:38.58 | Polarina | sag_ich_nicht: And write that thing in the box "What were you doing when the crash occured?". :D |
| 16:39.04 | sag_ich_nicht | yes. |
| 16:39.41 | sag_ich_nicht | i usually write flames about WoWs shitty memory managment code in it |
| 16:39.54 | sag_ich_nicht | and about the shitty alt + tab code it uses |
| 16:40.29 | Polarina | :P |
| 16:40.38 | Polarina | Now you have the third thing to complain about. |
| 16:41.48 | amro | sag_ich_nicht: run as windowed/maximized |
| 16:42.24 | sag_ich_nicht | amro no, that kills my framerate AND is incompatible with my shell. |
| 16:42.28 | sag_ich_nicht | (no, i'm not using explorer.exe) |
| 16:42.48 | amro | sucks for you |
| 16:42.50 | Shirik|Ecole | Polarina: That bug is already listed at bugs.html |
| 16:42.54 | Shirik|Ecole | on Lua.org |
| 16:42.58 | Polarina | I know. :P |
| 16:43.07 | Polarina | Upgrade to 5.1.3 to fix it. |
| 16:43.08 | zenzelezz | the fullscreen alt+tab issues isn't all WoW, it's in part due to how DirectX handles that special fullscreen mode |
| 16:43.44 | amro | I think it does something weird with textures. they end up getting destroyed sometimes |
| 16:44.06 | sag_ich_nicht | cashes WoW |
| 16:44.16 | zenzelezz | when you switch focus away from a fullscreen D3D application you have to recreate the interface thing when you regain focus |
| 16:44.17 | sag_ich_nicht | amro yes |
| 16:44.19 | zenzelezz | among other things |
| 16:44.25 | sag_ich_nicht | /script local s = "a,"; for i=1,18 do s = s..s end print(loadstring("local a;"..s.."a=nil", "")) |
| 16:44.28 | sag_ich_nicht | crashes WoW |
| 16:44.35 | sag_ich_nicht | so hard the error reporter does not show up |
| 16:44.45 | Cide | what'd you expect? :P |
| 16:44.48 | Polarina | sag_ich_nicht: :) |
| 16:44.51 | Cide | >>> 2^18 |
| 16:44.52 | Cide | Cide: 262144 |
| 16:44.52 | sag_ich_nicht | someone try on the testrealm |
| 16:45.00 | sag_ich_nicht | please |
| 16:45.05 | Cide | it crashes there too |
| 16:45.07 | Shirik|Ecole | sag_ich_nicht: there's others |
| 16:45.28 | sag_ich_nicht | report them :P blizzard needs to lern2upgrad lua engine with minor revisions |
| 16:45.38 | sag_ich_nicht | +e |
| 16:45.43 | Cide | no they don't :P |
| 16:45.46 | Polarina | sag_ich_nicht: That bug is not fixed in Lua 5.1.2 |
| 16:45.49 | Shirik|Ecole | I used this one a long time ago, when we discovered it (I forget who came across it accidentally) /script function a(a) coroutine.wrap(a)(a) end a(a) |
| 16:45.58 | Shirik|Ecole | honestly I think the WoW engine just needs to handle a Lua crash more gracefully |
| 16:46.06 | Shirik|Ecole | instead of just expecting it to work and then blow up in yo face when it doesn't |
| 16:46.21 | sag_ich_nicht | Polarina: you said upgrade to 5.1.3 fixes it |
| 16:46.34 | Polarina | sag_ich_nicht: Yes, but it's not yet released. |
| 16:46.35 | sag_ich_nicht | so i expected there to already be a version 5.1.3 |
| 16:46.41 | sag_ich_nicht | then you can't upgrade. |
| 16:46.44 | sag_ich_nicht | lern2english |
| 16:46.52 | Shirik|Ecole | sure you can |
| 16:46.53 | Polarina | You can. |
| 16:46.54 | Shirik|Ecole | it's just not stable |
| 16:47.05 | sag_ich_nicht | then you can only upgade to 5.1.3-unstable :P |
| 16:47.19 | sag_ich_nicht | or -beta or -development or what ever they call those :P |
| 16:47.26 | cladhaire | if you want to run bad code |
| 16:47.28 | cladhaire | you deserve to have your client crash |
| 16:47.30 | cladhaire | lrn2notsuck |
| 16:47.39 | sag_ich_nicht | mhm |
| 16:47.48 | sag_ich_nicht | didn't your bot do lua too, cladhaire? |
| 16:47.49 | sag_ich_nicht | >:O |
| 16:47.54 | cladhaire | yes, so? |
| 16:48.01 | sag_ich_nicht | oh, nothing |
| 16:48.03 | cladhaire | welcome to a week ago |
| 16:48.12 | cladhaire | lua> local s = "a,"; for i=1,18 do s = s..s end print(loadstring("local a;"..s.."a=nil", "")) |
| 16:48.12 | cladbot | cladhaire: sandbox.lua:229: Cannot loadstring() a string longer than 300 characters. |
| 16:48.19 | Cide | haha |
| 16:48.21 | sag_ich_nicht | bastard :D |
| 16:48.45 | cladhaire | you could still get it with load() but i'm not too worried about that |
| 16:48.46 | Polarina | "Polarina gains Track Cladhaire." |
| 16:49.00 | cladhaire | that's cause i was too lazy to compile the patch into my interpreter |
| 16:49.04 | cladhaire | since it'll be moving boxes soon anyway |
| 16:51.22 | sag_ich_nicht | btw., now that the exploit is hotfixed, what was causing the server crashes last week? |
| 16:51.50 | sag_ich_nicht | (or was it the week before? i forgot) |
| 16:52.12 | Polarina | Same code that crashed Cide's bot. |
| 16:52.20 | sag_ich_nicht | i don't think so. |
| 16:52.49 | Polarina | Are these exploits on the live realms too? |
| 16:53.07 | sag_ich_nicht | it was one exploit, it was on live, it got hotfixed, crashed the whole realm |
| 16:53.27 | sag_ich_nicht | i'm just interested in what caused the crashes because i want to know how blizzard fucked up this time |
| 16:53.41 | Polarina | The one who abused that exploit got his account permanently banned. |
| 16:55.04 | sag_ich_nicht | well duh |
| 16:55.25 | sag_ich_nicht | don't see how that is relevant, tho |
| 16:55.26 | Polarina | You might ask him/her. |
| 16:56.24 | sag_ich_nicht | i doubt it was a single person |
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| 16:59.27 | cladhaire | you invite someone to an arena team |
| 16:59.28 | cladhaire | log off |
| 16:59.32 | cladhaire | and once you're offline, have them accept |
| 16:59.38 | cladhaire | it was as simple as that (and well known, i might add) |
| 17:00.11 | sag_ich_nicht | cladhaire haha nice |
| 17:00.26 | sag_ich_nicht | wonder how that could crash the realm |
| 17:00.38 | ts|skrom | Polarina do you play a rogue? |
| 17:00.40 | cladhaire | dunno *shrug* |
| 17:00.44 | Lopeppeppy | Finding these bugs is like... the first person to eat a lobster. Who picks something up and says, "Oh, I think this is a great idea" ? |
| 17:00.45 | Polarina | ts|skrom: Hunter. |
| 17:01.31 | sag_ich_nicht | no i mean, how the fuck do you create a system like this that something as simple as this can crash the whole realm? |
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| 17:01.52 | sag_ich_nicht | -like this +in such a way |
| 17:02.14 | Polarina | sag_ich_nicht: X have invited to Y to the arena team, etc... |
| 17:02.16 | ts|skrom | I would have eaten the lobster just on the off chance it was a radioactive lobster and I could gain his powers |
| 17:03.08 | Lopeppeppy | TS|Skrom: It's the butter that's radioactive, dear. :P |
| 17:03.08 | cog|work | http://www.morningtoast.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/missmap.gif |
| 17:03.08 | Polarina | sag_ich_nicht: The value of X was the name of the player who invited the other one. The server must have free()d that information when X logged of. |
| 17:03.08 | ts|skrom | zomg you mean I could have butter super powers? |
| 17:03.10 | Lopeppeppy | Butter and better! |
| 17:04.16 | ts|skrom | I fight the slippery hold of evil. My light and golden justice rains on all who would threaten my fair city of Land O' Lakes. Villians beware or you will be TOAST! I am BUTTERMAN! |
| 17:04.20 | sag_ich_nicht | Polarina still shouldn't crash it, it should not be knitted that tightly in |
| 17:04.48 | Lopeppeppy | Where's Powdered Toast Man when you need him. |
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| 17:06.14 | ts|skrom | hrm |
| 17:06.33 | Mr_Rabies2 | HOOOOO |
| 17:06.36 | ts|skrom | my boss just came to the office near mine and said "we are stopping for lunch if you want to join us (talking to the new lady in there) |
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| 17:06.55 | Lopeppeppy | Oooh, she's the victim of "social integration" |
| 17:06.58 | ts|skrom | is it weird that the only thing I thought of was: "Stop in the name of lunch, before you break my wallet" |
| 17:07.06 | ts|skrom | O.o |
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| 17:07.55 | cladhaire | lol |
| 17:07.57 | Lopeppeppy | You sing weird things. |
| 17:08.20 | ts|skrom | Weird things you sing! |
| 17:08.26 | ts|skrom | Yodatalk(tm) |
| 17:08.27 | Cairenn | okay, is anyone aware of their being a bug in wow at all right now that prevents the addon button from showing up on the character screen at all? |
| 17:08.39 | ts|skrom | Cairenn stupid people? |
| 17:08.48 | Cairenn | besides that usual one |
| 17:08.49 | cog|work | and or vista |
| 17:09.03 | ts|skrom | high five! |
| 17:09.17 | cog|work | try again! |
| 17:09.18 | ts|skrom | we are two wild and crrrrazy guys |
| 17:09.40 | cog|work | Cairenn: better watch out... it's gnomish mating season... |
| 17:09.53 | Cairenn | oi |
| 17:09.55 | cog|work | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=1371542196 |
| 17:10.18 | ts|skrom | man now I'm scarred for life again |
| 17:11.02 | Lopeppeppy | Cairenn: Very occasionally people will claim that they are doing everything exactly right but there is just no button. I'm not sure if I ever believe them or not, honestly.... I believe it to be PEBKAC in all cases. |
| 17:11.22 | ts|skrom | ccc pebkac |
| 17:11.30 | cog|work | though vista has complicated things a bit... |
| 17:11.30 | Kaydeethree | it's /always/ a pebkac error |
| 17:11.39 | ts|skrom | I actually used that a few times when I worked call center |
| 17:11.40 | cog|work | makes it easier to do something wrong |
| 17:11.41 | Cairenn | well, he's got to be doing something wrong, but darned if I can figure out what his problem is |
| 17:11.46 | Lopeppeppy | But it is conceivable that there is some deep flaw in their installation that perhaps could be fixed with a re-install? And Vista is just complicated. |
| 17:11.58 | ts|skrom | puts the customer at ease if they "THINK" they didn't do something wrong |
| 17:11.59 | cog|work | Cairenn: have him take a screenshot of one of his folders? |
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| 17:12.28 | cladhaire | I need a good reason why someone would want to use coroutines for a useful application that I can use as an example in that chapter of the book. any ideas? |
| 17:12.44 | ts|skrom | coroutines are sexah |
| 17:12.54 | cog|work | cladhaire: any sort of scanning operation where it will take longer than a split second to finish |
| 17:13.10 | cog|work | dispatch in OnUpdate, run through a couple cycles and yield |
| 17:13.10 | cladhaire | such as? |
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| 17:13.18 | cladhaire | yeah in know how they work |
| 17:13.19 | cladhaire | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:13.28 | cog|work | auctioneer uses them iirc |
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| 17:14.52 | cog|work | cladhaire: or is this another case of where you actually want an example not a justification? :P |
| 17:15.12 | cladhaire | i need something to write about.. i need an example :P |
| 17:15.15 | ts|skrom | hey cog|work I made a warrior and a priest to play around with that voice command stuff :P level 8!! |
| 17:15.23 | cog|work | hehe |
| 17:15.28 | Polarina | Voice command? |
| 17:15.37 | ts|skrom | it's pretty neat but I've had some problems with SAPI |
| 17:15.38 | cog|work | dunno why you blame it on me :P i'm just a parrot |
| 17:15.54 | ts|skrom | eh? because we chatted about it the other day :p |
| 17:16.10 | cog|work | i know nothing about it beyond its existence :P |
| 17:16.17 | ts|skrom | I turned off the SAPI feature where it "learns" while you use, and just did a bunch of training sessions. that seemed to help. |
| 17:16.20 | cog|work | (and its "segality") |
| 17:16.28 | cog|work | s/seg/leg/ |
| 17:16.48 | cog|work | Polarina: http://downloads.curse.com/details/7605/ |
| 17:16.53 | ts|skrom | the "learn as you go" thing seemed to corrupt my profile after awhiel, maybe I just got lazy but every word I said came across as "shadow" for some reason :( |
| 17:18.04 | Kaydeethree | my parents rock: http://ctscreens.net/8736 |
| 17:18.13 | Kaydeethree | solid chocolate, that's a nickel for size comparison |
| 17:18.22 | ts|skrom | holy crap |
| 17:18.56 | cog|work | that would be awesomer if it were a giant bawls mint... although i'm not sure how i would feel getting huge bawls from my parents... |
| 17:19.02 | alestane | That's a chunk of chocolate. |
| 17:21.07 | Lopeppeppy | TS|Skrom: If I ever get the second account, I would totally use Voice Commander, it just seems neat. |
| 17:21.23 | ts|skrom | I just use my friends who plays less then me XD |
| 17:22.06 | cog|work | ts|skrom: that's illegal |
| 17:22.10 | ts|skrom | *shrug* |
| 17:22.19 | cog|work | you'll get his account closed if they find out :P |
| 17:22.23 | ts|skrom | indeed |
| 17:22.44 | ts|skrom | unless I go around saying it in game though they'd never find out ^^ |
| 17:25.52 | ts|skrom | to be honest there's no real reason to limit accounts to one person for legitimate players. Fathers who share their account with their kids, husbands and wives, etc all do it regularly without reprecussion. that rule is really only there so they have one more "reason" for which to ban farmers (who often have single accounts logged in 24/7) |
| 17:26.01 | Saint-N | groovy |
| 17:26.14 | Saint-N | my action pack this month has vista64 |
| 17:26.32 | alestane | ts|skrom: still, you might want to practice some discretion. |
| 17:26.39 | Saint-N | like communications center and 32/64bit win server 2k3 and 2k8 32/64 server |
| 17:27.41 | ts|skrom | well at any rate I've not mentioned his toons/account name/real name so I'm pretty sure that as of this conversation he's in the clear and I'll be sure to never mention it again :X |
| 17:29.07 | ts|skrom | some good spots for stormwind rep: go! |
| 17:29.35 | alestane | Swamp of Sorrows/Nethergarde. |
| 17:29.47 | Kaydeethree | AV |
| 17:30.00 | alestane | Hillsbrad Foothills. |
| 17:30.39 | alestane | lua> tonumber("QWERTY") |
| 17:30.39 | cladbot | alestane: nil, |
| 17:30.57 | alestane | lua> tonumber() |
| 17:30.57 | cladbot | alestane: [string "tonumber()"]:1: bad argument #1 to 'tonumber' (value expected) |
| 17:31.15 | cladhaire | lua> tonumber(nil) |
| 17:31.15 | cladbot | cladhaire: nil, |
| 17:31.15 | Kaydeethree | lua> tonumber("42") |
| 17:31.15 | cladbot | Kaydeethree: 42, |
| 17:31.27 | cladhaire | you have to pass it something, even if its the nil value.. but passing it nothing gives you an error. |
| 17:31.47 | alestane | Okay, so tonumber() and tonumber(nil) are different...how can it tell the difference? |
| 17:32.02 | cog|work | alestane: C knows how many args were passed |
| 17:32.15 | cog|work | and actually lua does too with select("#", ...) |
| 17:32.16 | alestane | So it works because it's implemented in C? |
| 17:32.36 | Lopeppeppy | TS|Skrom: I got all of mine in the battleground, AV honestly. But you can run those boxes from Nethergarde until next christmas for rep, if you'd like. |
| 17:32.52 | cladhaire | it just works that way, because that's how it was coded. |
| 17:32.52 | ts|skrom | hrm |
| 17:33.01 | alestane | My draenei was exalted with SW by level 42 or so. |
| 17:33.06 | ts|skrom | I'm about 15000 away from a horsey on my 43 druid |
| 17:33.17 | ts|skrom | that's what I've heard from most draenei :( |
| 17:33.25 | Kaydeethree | ya, tis annoying |
| 17:33.36 | Kaydeethree | I'm merely revered with all factions except darn on my gnome mage |
| 17:33.40 | Lopeppeppy | Where do the draeni pick up the extra rep? From baby quests? |
| 17:33.49 | cog|work | Wikipedia: "The hand has five fingers [citation needed]" |
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| 17:34.01 | ts|skrom | their starting area has mucho mucho quests for varying reps |
| 17:34.16 | alestane | I think partly it's that the baby quests are very rep-rich...although the rep gains for all quests were jacked up post-BC. |
| 17:34.33 | ts|skrom | I usually leave their level 20 area honored with all and into revered with exodar if I remember |
| 17:34.36 | Lopeppeppy | True, and rep is getting another boost for fuzzies and AD, I understand. |
| 17:34.45 | Kaydeethree | and CC |
| 17:34.51 | Kaydeethree | 2x what it was for kills/turnins |
| 17:35.02 | ts|skrom | the problem is that their starting areas give almost no rep if the quests are grey unlike other starting areas |
| 17:35.06 | Lopeppeppy | Neat. I will totally finish Pep's fuzzy faction then. |
| 17:35.29 | alestane | 'cause otherwise everyone is just gonna say, 'forget this grind' and go to outland where they get better stuff anyway. |
| 17:35.43 | alestane | 'fuzzy'? |
| 17:35.59 | Kaydeethree | timbermaw |
| 17:36.12 | Kaydeethree | I call em the furbies tbqh |
| 17:36.43 | ts|skrom | I don't want a cat mount :( I want a horse |
| 17:39.48 | Lopeppeppy | Fuzzies, furbies... I just want my bestfriend furbie to come play with me while I'm grinding. |
| 17:40.29 | alestane | ts|skrom: It's not as steep with the other races but I've been finding I pass level 20 a lot higher with all friendly races than I did before. |
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| 17:42.45 | Kaydeethree | awesome... maybe this'll shut up the QQers about the fact that ZA's in horde territory: http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=1371602308&pageNo=2&sid=1#22 |
| 17:43.44 | zenzelezz | haha |
| 17:45.58 | alestane | And did you see they're also planning a raid dungeon right above Silvermoon City? |
| 17:46.08 | sag_ich_nicht | old |
| 17:46.17 | sag_ich_nicht | my guess is they will open the scar |
| 17:46.19 | sag_ich_nicht | lol |
| 17:46.20 | sag_ich_nicht | :O |
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| 17:46.45 | alestane | "Sunwell Plateau" |
| 17:46.47 | sag_ich_nicht | (the part at the north end of silvermoon, that is) |
| 17:46.48 | sag_ich_nicht | yeah |
| 17:46.50 | sag_ich_nicht | old news |
| 17:47.01 | sag_ich_nicht | 1 25 man raid, 1 5 man dungeon |
| 17:47.18 | sag_ich_nicht | wonder what rep you need for heroic of that one |
| 17:47.19 | sag_ich_nicht | >:O |
| 17:48.16 | alestane | So do you think there will ever be a reaid scenario designed for, say, 20 level 40s? Or is raiding designed as an end-game-only experience? |
| 17:48.40 | sag_ich_nicht | UBRS |
| 17:48.42 | sag_ich_nicht | :P |
| 17:48.43 | Kaydeethree | isn't deadmines still raidable? |
| 17:48.46 | sag_ich_nicht | also |
| 17:48.47 | sag_ich_nicht | yes |
| 17:48.57 | sag_ich_nicht | you can raid any below 50 instance pretty much |
| 17:49.08 | sag_ich_nicht | just won't be able to finish the kill quests for them, other than that |
| 17:49.19 | alestane | It's not really designed for it though isn't it? Basically a steamroller? |
| 17:49.26 | sag_ich_nicht | depends |
| 17:49.33 | sag_ich_nicht | you can raid deadmines with 10 level 10 chars |
| 17:49.42 | sag_ich_nicht | or level all to 15 and steamroll it |
| 17:49.43 | Kaydeethree | meh... I remember wiping in strat in a raid |
| 17:49.50 | sag_ich_nicht | Kaydeethree lol strat |
| 17:50.08 | sag_ich_nicht | strat sucks, peroid, anyone who claims different sucks, too |
| 17:50.11 | sag_ich_nicht | same goes for scholo |
| 17:50.26 | Kaydeethree | meh, once we got our heads out of our asses, they weren't that bad |
| 17:50.30 | sag_ich_nicht | and LBRS, UBRS and BRD |
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| 17:50.33 | ScytheBlade1 | Pretty sure that Scholo is possibly my favorite 5 man. |
| 17:50.37 | Kaydeethree | was consistently doing ~30-min baron runs |
| 17:51.19 | Cide | ScytheBlade1: what? you're out of your mind |
| 17:51.26 | ScytheBlade1 | No, I'm dead serious |
| 17:51.27 | sag_ich_nicht | my favorite 5 man is probably maraudon |
| 17:51.43 | Cide | ScytheBlade1: doesn't mean you're not out of your mind though |
| 17:51.45 | ScytheBlade1 | BRD/LBRS/UBRS all *sucked immensely hard* though |
| 17:52.03 | sag_ich_nicht | mara actually has a few intelligent behaviour bosses |
| 17:52.08 | ScytheBlade1 | But I really did enjoy Scholo |
| 17:52.10 | sag_ich_nicht | and mobs |
| 17:52.19 | sag_ich_nicht | (slugs) |
| 17:53.09 | alestane | I haven't found a 5-man that I actually dislike...Scholo and Strat dead are some of my favorites flavor-wise, although the structure to finish Strat dead is a pain. |
| 17:53.27 | Kaydeethree | meh. deadside's an exercise in creative pulling |
| 17:53.35 | ScytheBlade1 | Not compared to Scholo. |
| 17:53.42 | ScytheBlade1 | Scholo is king in terms of creative pulling. |
| 17:53.53 | alestane | I've only ever done RFD once, though, I sort of wish Alliance had more reson to go there. |
| 17:53.57 | zenzelezz | eh? I had the same pattern every time in Scholo, was never hard |
| 17:54.07 | Polarina | The only 5-man I dislike is Temple of Atal'Hakkar. |
| 17:54.15 | Kaydeethree | ST... /cringe |
| 17:54.17 | Cairenn|afk | cog|work: thanks for the Vista suggestion, that was it |
| 17:54.21 | ScytheBlade1 | The same can apply to deadside, to be fair.. you don't really *have* to be creative any any of it |
| 17:54.24 | sag_ich_nicht | fuck sunken temple |
| 17:54.39 | alestane | The only thing I don't like about ST is that it's too easy to get lost in there. |
| 17:54.40 | sag_ich_nicht | creative pulling=seed of corruption in scholo |
| 17:55.00 | cog|work | Cairenn|afk: :) |
| 17:55.01 | zenzelezz | I love BRD, the only thing that can make it bad is a bad team |
| 17:55.08 | ScytheBlade1 | Nah, creative pulling is mage pulling the summoner room. |
| 17:55.14 | Kaydeethree | yup |
| 17:55.23 | ScytheBlade1 | I've got it down to 30 minute solo Rattlegore runs on my mage |
| 17:55.43 | sag_ich_nicht | ScytheBlade1 you realize that seed of corruption goes thru the walls and pulls all of scholo pretty much? |
| 17:55.49 | ScytheBlade1 | Yup |
| 17:56.00 | ScytheBlade1 | And that's not creative, that's just cheese ;P |
| 17:56.20 | zenzelezz | you mean Seed of Corruption can be the source of some mysterious through-the-wall/roof pulls in Karazhan also? |
| 17:56.26 | Kaydeethree | yes |
| 17:56.30 | Kaydeethree | oh very much yes |
| 17:56.32 | ScytheBlade1 | Yup. |
| 17:56.33 | zenzelezz | why didn't those filthy locks tell me so |
| 17:56.42 | ScytheBlade1 | Because they wanted to keep doing it, I'd guess ;) |
| 17:56.45 | Kaydeethree | so they could blame the hunters |
| 17:57.06 | zenzelezz | I'm forgiving, as long as you're careful about what you do I'll let you do it |
| 17:58.24 | Polarina | The best thing for being a hunter, is that you can easily wipe the entire group (But it's the groups fault too, without knowing it). |
| 17:58.31 | zenzelezz | we were heading for Maiden through that corridor the other day, no priests, no locks, so to help out one of the paladins decided to Turn Undead |
| 17:58.38 | ScytheBlade1 | lol |
| 17:58.39 | zenzelezz | it didn't really help |
| 17:58.41 | ScytheBlade1 | "Oops" |
| 17:59.24 | sag_ich_nicht | zenzelezz: some locks don't know it |
| 17:59.55 | alestane | The only time I've ever found Turn Undead useful is as an "oh s%$t" button for bad pulls in WPL/EPL. |
| 18:00.02 | ScytheBlade1 | Conversely, you should considering firing said locks if they don't know. |
| 18:00.07 | zenzelezz | that's the sort of thing you're supposed to learn while leveling :-) Like how you don't place your Intimidating Shout button next to your Challenging Shout button |
| 18:00.07 | sag_ich_nicht | heh |
| 18:00.11 | Saint-N | zenzelezz: did the pallys friend bring back others to show them the "real life paladin he found" ? |
| 18:00.14 | sag_ich_nicht | turn undead works on unfearable mobs |
| 18:00.21 | zenzelezz | Saint-N: yes, the whole first side room |
| 18:00.24 | sag_ich_nicht | e.g. moroes adds |
| 18:00.28 | Saint-N | haha nice |
| 18:00.45 | Kaydeethree | damn... 27.4k hp http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Chromaggus&n=Dasa |
| 18:00.51 | Saint-N | ive done that a couple of times when i accidently hit fear instead of fade |
| 18:01.11 | zenzelezz | alestane: I had the opposite experience, learning that fear generally *don't* work on undead... "oops, Intimidating Shout *4x Immune* crap" |
| 18:01.12 | Saint-N | becuse they sit side by side on my action bar and the icons looks sorta the samewhe you glance ;P |
| 18:01.24 | zenzelezz | at 52 or so at Sorrow Hill |
| 18:02.01 | alestane | zenzelezz: Yes, undead are the bane of 'locks everywhere. |
| 18:02.06 | Thunder_Child | http://www.ohgizmo.com/2007/09/03/1256-microwulf-supercomputer-smaller-than-bread-box-runs-at-2625-gigaflops/ |
| 18:02.19 | Saint-N | thats kind of ironic actually |
| 18:04.01 | alestane | Has anyone actually figured out a good use for the 'click','clickbutton' option for SecureActionButton_OnClick? |
| 18:05.08 | Saint-N | toggle up and down? |
| 18:05.39 | ts|skrom | to CLICKK STUFF |
| 18:05.42 | ts|skrom | er sorry |
| 18:05.51 | ts|skrom | so I watched 300 last night, decent movie |
| 18:06.21 | alestane | lua> string.match("$enemy", "^$(.*)$") |
| 18:06.21 | cladbot | alestane: enemy, |
| 18:07.02 | ts|skrom | UnitIsUnit("enemyofmyenemy","friend") |
| 18:08.37 | zenzelezz | O_o |
| 18:08.59 | ts|skrom | alestane started it >< |
| 18:10.32 | sag_ich_nicht | lol |
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| 18:27.01 | Shirik | ~lart ts|skrom |
| 18:27.01 | purl | slaps a compatible dib on ts|skrom's head |
| 18:27.11 | Shirik | it's obviously "enemytarget" not "enemyofmyenemy" |
| 18:30.38 | zenzelezz | isn't "enemy" unrecognized? And the enemy could be targetting a (to him) friendly to cast a buff or a heal or something |
| 18:30.52 | cog|work | ts|skrom: don't worry... I understood |
| 18:31.15 | ts|skrom | wuh, did I miss something? |
| 18:31.53 | cog|work | apparently you sent something over the heads of zenzelezz (and perhaps Shirik though he could be just being sarcastic :P ) |
| 18:32.17 | Thunder_Child | na, they didnt get it |
| 18:32.26 | Saint-N | hehe shirik was giving him correct syntax and naming ;P |
| 18:32.26 | ts|skrom | ;-) |
| 18:32.47 | Saint-N | the the target of your target is your friend ;P |
| 18:32.58 | Saint-N | thus enemytarget ;P |
| 18:33.02 | ts|skrom | not necessarily |
| 18:33.16 | ts|skrom | as zenzelezz pointed out he could be buffing a teammate |
| 18:33.22 | zenzelezz | cog|work: I'm aware of the expression "the enemy of my enemy is my friend", but I don't subscribe to it. They could both be your enemies |
| 18:33.44 | cog|work | like the borg and species 8472 |
| 18:33.48 | Saint-N | that would still make the target of your target a friend ;P |
| 18:33.59 | ts|skrom | one could be an enemy and one could be a long lost brother |
| 18:34.21 | ts|skrom | or "sshhh khooosh" I could be your father "sshhh khooosh" |
| 18:34.31 | Saint-N | fissssssssshhhhhh |
| 18:34.51 | ts|skrom | where oh where did that a-fisshhy fish gooooo |
| 18:34.51 | cog|work | ghooooooooooottttttttiiiiii |
| 18:35.51 | Saint-N | KKHHHHHHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAANNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNN |
| 18:36.21 | cog|work | NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO |
| 18:36.32 | ts|skrom | *wilhelm scream* |
| 18:36.50 | cog|work | oh and snape kills dumbledore |
| 18:36.53 | Saint-N | Gir, stop playing with that you're radiating waves of stupid. |
| 18:37.07 | AnduinLothar | wow wtf happened here |
| 18:37.13 | ts|skrom | don't ask |
| 18:37.15 | cog|work | I'm gonna sing the doom song now! Doom doom doom doom doom |
| 18:37.17 | Saint-N | whippits |
| 18:37.18 | ts|skrom | don't tell! |
| 18:37.22 | AnduinLothar | zim! |
| 18:37.57 | sag_ich_nicht | ~whalenuke AnduinLothar |
| 18:37.58 | purl | ACTION dons his radiation cloak and tinted glasses while a highly intelligent whale named Ray precipitates critical mass for uncontrolled nuclear fission around AnduinLothar with his mind powers |
| 18:38.01 | cog|work | Saint-N: u gief plx |
| 18:38.06 | AnduinLothar | is it auctioneer that prints orange/brown error msgs to chat? |
| 18:38.12 | sag_ich_nicht | yes. |
| 18:38.25 | sag_ich_nicht | annoys me |
| 18:38.45 | AnduinLothar | it's decided MailTo is the devil |
| 18:38.54 | sag_ich_nicht | yes |
| 18:39.01 | AnduinLothar | granted MailTo is outdated and thinks it still takes an hour to mail to my alt.. |
| 18:39.13 | ts|skrom | I saw a quote on the forum the other day that I liked it went something like: If someone justifies plz as opposed to please because it's shorter then I feel perfectly justified telling them no instead of yes because it's shorter. |
| 18:39.14 | sag_ich_nicht | it also decided that postal is the devil too, tho |
| 18:39.24 | Saint-N | Oh I left that at home. Left what at home Gir? you know the guidey chippy thingie. WHAT?!? WHY DID YOU LEAVE THAT AT HOME GIR?!?! what make room for the cupcake! |
| 18:40.26 | Saint-N | hey you have to pay. you expect me to pay to ride this filthy vessel? have you the BRAIN WORMS?!?!!? |
| 18:40.36 | Saint-N | that episode has some of the best quotes |
| 18:40.43 | AnduinLothar | <3 Gir |
| 18:41.39 | AnduinLothar | I'm not a huge fan of the show, but the 1st season was pretty good and gir is just awesome |
| 18:42.09 | cog|work | http://fairuse.100webcustomers.com/fairenough/latimesB77.html |
| 18:42.33 | cog|work | my sister-in-law named her dog Gir |
| 18:42.39 | cog|work | it fit WAY too well |
| 18:43.24 | AnduinLothar | I'm not gonna put a urinal in my home till they make one that's completely splash proof. |
| 18:43.55 | AnduinLothar | I've seen various attempts, but none of them work esp well |
| 18:44.24 | cog|work | not like toilets are exactly splash proof either, though... |
| 18:44.34 | AnduinLothar | true, but better |
| 18:44.41 | AnduinLothar | long as you can aim |
| 18:45.14 | Saint-N | can i be a mongoose dog? |
| 18:45.18 | cog|work | and for something people do nearly their entire lives, it's amazing how many people can't... |
| 18:45.59 | Cidan | ya |
| 18:46.00 | Cidan | y |
| 18:46.02 | AnduinLothar | i've taken to just sitting down so i don't have to think or watch |
| 18:46.05 | Saint-N | AnduinLothar: get the one with the face on it and the opening that you just stick yer winkie into no splash ;) |
| 18:46.14 | Cidan | OOXML was voted no |
| 18:46.16 | Cidan | woo |
| 18:46.18 | Kaydeethree | yay |
| 18:46.26 | AnduinLothar | by whom? |
| 18:46.27 | Kaydeethree | time for a beer |
| 18:46.30 | Kaydeethree | the iso |
| 18:46.30 | Cidan | by ISO |
| 18:46.40 | cog|work | only the fast-track was voted no |
| 18:46.43 | cog|work | it still has a chance |
| 18:46.45 | Cidan | shh |
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| 18:46.57 | Kaydeethree | with all of the ill will MS has for pulling the stunt it did? |
| 18:46.58 | cog|work | besides, is your glee anti-microsoft or anti OOXML? :P |
| 18:47.08 | Kaydeethree | both |
| 18:47.18 | Cidan | both |
| 18:47.23 | AnduinLothar | i still haven't read the spec. i just don't like that it's microsoft and their methods are bleh |
| 18:47.49 | Cidan | I have read the OOXML spec, it's pure crap, it really is. |
| 18:47.50 | amro | AnduinLothar: same here, just now I was cursing MSI |
| 18:48.07 | AnduinLothar | i'm still confused why xml needs to be OO |
| 18:48.09 | Cidan | it's the most obsfucated thing I have ever seen |
| 18:48.25 | Kaydeethree | ms just didn't want odf to be the standard |
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| 18:48.42 | ts|skrom | heh |
| 18:49.02 | ts|skrom | xml needs to be OO but instead it's just O.o which makes billy boy :'( |
| 18:49.07 | ts|skrom | shoot me now |
| 18:49.29 | Shirik | ~shoot ts|skrom |
| 18:49.29 | purl | ACTION shoots ts|skrom in the head with a glue gun! |
| 18:49.38 | ts|skrom | yuck it's all in my hair |
| 18:50.54 | cog|work | ts|skrom: what's OOXMLhave to do with OO? :P |
| 18:51.01 | Kaydeethree | it doesn't |
| 18:51.46 | ts|skrom | I don't know people just kept saying OO and OOXML and all I saw was O.o and o.O |
| 18:51.59 | sag_ich_nicht | [20:43] <+AnduinLothar> I'm not gonna put a urinal in my home till they make one that's completely splash proof. <--there are already plenty, you just have to use ones that are especially "deep", embedded into the wall |
| 18:52.22 | sag_ich_nicht | can't splash basicially because the stream goes in too far for that |
| 18:52.55 | sag_ich_nicht | also, if you install an urinal in your house/bathroom, you have to install a bidet too :P |
| 18:53.05 | AnduinLothar | hmmm http://blog.scifi.com/tech/archives/2007/08/14/kohler_develops.html |
| 18:53.25 | sag_ich_nicht | also those |
| 18:54.29 | cog|work | I love the use of the word "mainstream" in the comment there... |
| 18:54.49 | cog|work | and i wonder if that's the same blissfulpain as on the wow forums... |
| 18:55.37 | AnduinLothar | List price: $475.00 |
| 18:55.37 | ts|skrom | one emo kids as good as the rest |
| 18:56.09 | AnduinLothar | uses http://www.us.kohler.com/onlinecatalog/detail.jsp?item=11198502&prod_num=1048656-P |
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| 18:57.04 | ts|skrom | :O |
| 18:57.08 | ts|skrom | $480 a bottle? |
| 18:57.12 | AnduinLothar | case |
| 18:57.17 | ts|skrom | oh |
| 18:57.27 | AnduinLothar | doesn't say hwo many bottles |
| 18:57.48 | ts|skrom | it's also an invalid item if you continue to checkout? |
| 18:58.02 | sag_ich_nicht | i don't think it's going to need a lot of change |
| 19:01.27 | alestane | Gawd, I always want to see what's going on on the PTR forum, but I'm spoiled by the comparitively low turnover and high intelligence of the UI forum. |
| 19:02.19 | Kaydeethree | I'm currently actively trolling the PTR |
| 19:02.23 | Kaydeethree | nothing's happening |
| 19:02.44 | Kaydeethree | it'll kick up in a few hours when they'll probably take the PTRs down for the next PTR push |
| 19:02.58 | Cidan | LOL PTR LOLOL |
| 19:03.00 | Cidan | Or something |
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| 19:03.56 | ts|skrom | how inciteful (spelling error on purpose!) |
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| 19:04.21 | Cidan | Agreed. |
| 19:04.45 | cog|work | ts|skrom: [sic] would've worked :) |
| 19:05.23 | ts|skrom | and here I just thought that meant the person was ill |
| 19:05.53 | ts|skrom | sweet my sarcasm was so great it kicekd them off the interweb |
| 19:05.54 | cog|work | bad grammar makes me [sic] |
| 19:06.42 | alestane | No, it's Latin for "thus"...has a particular purpose in things like citations. |
| 19:07.21 | ts|skrom | [citation needed] |
| 19:07.27 | Cidan | aye, in this case, it's implied "thus written" or "thus said" |
| 19:07.27 | sag_ich_nicht | [fact?] |
| 19:07.33 | cladhaire | this was more fun than I intended it to be :P |
| 19:07.33 | cladhaire | <PROTECTED> |
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| 19:07.45 | Cidan | yay? |
| 19:10.42 | ts|skrom | alestane [sic] actually means [sarcasm included comedy] |
| 19:11.02 | ts|skrom | er inclusive not included |
| 19:11.34 | alestane | Kaydeethree: Some folks earlier were trying to start a lobby to pull voice chat out in order to get the rest of the patch live...since everyone's just going to keep using Vent anyway. |
| 19:11.48 | Kaydeethree | but that QQing's happening in general too |
| 19:11.53 | Kaydeethree | and just about everywhere else |
| 19:12.17 | mikma | cladhaire: thats cool btw |
| 19:12.26 | cladhaire | hehe just was fun to see all the fonts. |
| 19:12.37 | alestane | They got shot down by other forum-goers in short order. We'd get just as much of a mess trying to back out the sound changes as we would going forward I think. |
| 19:12.41 | mikma | indeed. i can see where that will be usefull |
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| 19:12.50 | Cidan | It's not voice chat that is bugged, per se |
| 19:12.55 | Cidan | it's the new sound system |
| 19:13.01 | Cidan | and they can't just "pull it out" |
| 19:13.09 | alestane | Besides, if you took out voice chat, you'd have patch 2.1.4, not 2.2. |
| 19:13.18 | mikma | i'm so waiting for the new chatsystem <3 |
| 19:13.35 | Cidan | Regardless, you can't just rip out the new sound system and be like, "OH LOLOL HER IZ UR PATCH!!@!@!11" |
| 19:14.05 | alestane | Cidan: I'm not the one who needs informing. |
| 19:14.16 | Cidan | I know, just ranting |
| 19:14.22 | Cidan | :D |
| 19:14.24 | alestane | Carry on then. |
| 19:18.00 | sag_ich_nicht | hey |
| 19:18.15 | Cidan | is for horses |
| 19:18.18 | cog|work | alfalfa |
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| 19:18.52 | ts|skrom | has pointy hair? |
| 19:19.14 | Lin | hi there. |
| 19:19.41 | alestane | if frame:GetAttribute('*type2') == 'menu' and frame:GetAttribute('type2') == 'assist', then an unmodified right-click will get 'assist' for type, right? |
| 19:19.44 | sag_ich_nicht | if anyone wants to find(& debug) cross addon problems, bugs, i'm currently uploading my interface so antiarc can try and reproduce the omen aggro not showing bug, but feel free to take a look as well, it has many of those cross addon bugs, most non-serious :P |
| 19:21.03 | cog|work | Everybody pounce on the General chat guild recruiter! http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=1371552383&sid=1 |
| 19:21.41 | sag_ich_nicht | (and this isn't a "debug my interface" thing, i have no problems besides the omen bug, but you could probably find quite a few bad hookings & tainting in your addons from looking at the ADDON_ACTION_BLOCKED flood when in combat :P) |
| 19:21.43 | ts|skrom | I am a follower |
| 19:22.17 | cog|work | ~lart ts|skrom |
| 19:22.18 | purl | takes out a cattle prod and gives ts|skrom a good jolt |
| 19:22.30 | ts|skrom | ouch! I already pounced! |
| 19:22.47 | Tuller | hrm, can anyone think of a blizzard icon to represent "all items" |
| 19:22.54 | sag_ich_nicht | cog|work gimme your account data |
| 19:22.55 | ts|skrom | alestane it's a macro question |
| 19:23.02 | sag_ich_nicht | so i can steal all your gold^Upounce the bad recruiter |
| 19:23.18 | alestane | ts|skrom: Post is gone, I saw that. |
| 19:23.29 | ts|skrom | teehee |
| 19:24.00 | Polarina | Tuller: Treasure Chest? |
| 19:24.11 | Tuller | tjat |
| 19:24.13 | Polarina | With a question mark? |
| 19:24.16 | Tuller | err that's actually what I've gone with :) |
| 19:24.17 | cog|work | sag_ich_nicht: user: havefu pw: nshardingmabluez |
| 19:24.27 | Tuller | though sans question mark |
| 19:24.49 | Polarina | No, the question mark similar to the one for Unknown items. |
| 19:25.14 | cog|work | Tuller: something that loks like a star, esp. an asterisk |
| 19:25.20 | cog|work | s/ok/ook/ |
| 19:25.23 | Tuller | http://www.wowwiki.com/images/e/e7/INV_Gizmo_HardenedAdamantiteTube.png |
| 19:25.29 | ts|skrom | cog|work's got no epics (ba daa da dun) and no phat lewtz too (ba daa da dun) he doesn't have a lot of money (ba daa da dun) not even a pair of new shoes (ba daa da dun) |
| 19:25.42 | cog|work | ts|skrom: it's true :( |
| 19:25.50 | ts|skrom | I'm diggin' yer blues man |
| 19:25.51 | ts|skrom | soulful |
| 19:26.17 | sag_ich_nicht | i wish i still had that screenshot when Bantown social engineered some ebay sellers into giving them their account data, then stood in OG giving out free gold in the name of bantown |
| 19:27.06 | sag_ich_nicht | http://loliserv.org/~afora/OmenBugInterface.rar bug interface |
| 19:27.09 | sag_ich_nicht | feel free to poke it |
| 19:27.10 | sag_ich_nicht | :P |
| 19:27.28 | cog|work | ts|skrom: though technically my lunacy card is epic :P |
| 19:27.49 | ts|skrom | ugh what a phoney. and to think I bought all his records and other assorted swag |
| 19:27.55 | Polarina | Chinese farmers are not illegal. Being chinese is not against the rules. Farming gold is not against the rules.. |
| 19:28.17 | ts|skrom | so which one are you? |
| 19:28.18 | cog|work | selling said gold is illegal |
| 19:28.25 | sag_ich_nicht | selling gold and selling your account is illegal |
| 19:28.31 | Polarina | cog|work: Not for in-game items. |
| 19:28.54 | cog|work | nope but that's not what constitutes a farmer |
| 19:29.19 | ScytheBlade1 | That's not selling gold, that's trading items for gold. |
| 19:29.28 | alestane | selling said gold for goods, services, or other remuneration outside WoW is against the ToS. |
| 19:29.50 | ScytheBlade1 | emphasis "outside WoW" |
| 19:29.52 | ts|skrom | heh my company can't afford to pay travel time atm |
| 19:30.08 | ts|skrom | but they had some prepaid giftcards left from when they gave em out last year for christmas |
| 19:30.18 | ts|skrom | so I got one of those today from my trip last thursday |
| 19:30.26 | ts|skrom | I'm thinking... Bioshock ^^ |
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| 19:34.30 | Tuller | 'Men want hot women, study confirms' |
| 19:34.39 | sag_ich_nicht | no shit sherlock |
| 19:34.40 | Kaydeethree | news: sky blue. water wet |
| 19:34.45 | cog|work | better not have been government funded |
| 19:35.00 | Saint-N | Kaydeethree: since when?!?! no-onetold me! |
| 19:35.40 | alestane | Study indicates: screwdrivers made to tighten, loosen screws. |
| 19:36.04 | alestane | Besides, isn't that basically a circular definition? |
| 19:37.03 | alestane | since 'hot' == 'desirable/appealing' (generally to men), so... |
| 19:37.21 | Cide | the definition in the article is basically 'good-looking' |
| 19:37.30 | ts|skrom | dunno there's some real freaks out there |
| 19:38.43 | Cide | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=1272359474&sid=1&pageNo=1 |
| 19:38.48 | Cide | probably fake but... |
| 19:38.49 | Tuller | http://i19.tinypic.com/4ve5qo0.png I know someone wants to tell me what item types the side buttons match up to :P |
| 19:39.21 | alestane | Or is the study confirming that men are still primarily interested in certain traits, i.e. low BF%, late adolescent bust, etc.? |
| 19:40.14 | Cide | big bangs, swords, mail chestpieces, torches, lesser run speed potions, thread, horses |
| 19:40.25 | kaiden | Tuller, loooks like, Weapons, Armor, Quest Usables, Pots, Tradeskills, Mounts |
| 19:40.36 | kaiden | dunno what the first one is :P |
| 19:40.43 | Cide | big bangs |
| 19:40.47 | Tuller | yay |
| 19:41.01 | Tuller | http://www.cnn.com/2007/TECH/science/09/04/dating.mating.ap/index.html |
| 19:41.05 | Cide | I was correct? |
| 19:41.09 | Tuller | all items :P |
| 19:41.25 | Cide | so kinda like big bang.. a big mess |
| 19:41.30 | Tuller | but kaiden was pretty much dead on, mounts == misc, which includes stuff |
| 19:41.42 | Tuller | includes mounts + other stuff |
| 19:41.46 | ts|skrom | HAHAHAH |
| 19:41.51 | Cide | that one is kinda misleading |
| 19:41.56 | ts|skrom | I thought Cide was listing all the things that men were interested in |
| 19:42.05 | ts|skrom | 10[14:38] alestane: Or is the study confirming that men are still primarily interested in certain traits, i.e. low BF%, late adolescent bust, etc.? |
| 19:42.06 | ts|skrom | [14:39] Cide: big bangs, swords, mail chestpieces, torches, lesser run speed potions, thread, horses01 |
| 19:42.09 | Cide | haha, wtf |
| 19:43.02 | sag_ich_nicht | [21:39] <alestane> Or is the study confirming that men are still primarily interested in certain traits, i.e. low BF%, late adolescent bust, etc.? |
| 19:43.03 | sag_ich_nicht | [21:40] <+Cide> big bangs, swords, mail chestpieces, torches, lesser run speed potions, thread, horses |
| 19:43.18 | alestane | ts|skrom: The article is not particularly gripping, but could have been better served by a different title. |
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| 19:43.30 | sag_ich_nicht | taken out of context, this quote is ingenious |
| 19:44.30 | Kaydeethree | random general humor: http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=1371639666&sid=1&pageNo=1 |
| 19:44.42 | AnduinLothar | oh man, reckonnign with high parry chance is hot |
| 19:45.19 | AnduinLothar | it's liek having retaliation |
| 19:47.18 | ScytheBlade1 | A haha, yes @ http://www.brantleyonline.com/images/list/wow/sbo-birthplace.jpg |
| 19:47.25 | ScytheBlade1 | I think that's the best compliment I've ever been given |
| 19:47.49 | AnduinLothar | WTLoad img slower.. |
| 19:47.56 | ScytheBlade1 | wtb upstream |
| 19:48.01 | ScytheBlade1 | pst |
| 19:48.10 | ts|skrom | DIE PST DEMON |
| 19:48.39 | ScytheBlade1 | lol |
| 19:51.46 | sag_ich_nicht | ScytheBlade1 server? |
| 19:52.16 | ScytheBlade1 | Doomhammer |
| 19:52.25 | ScytheBlade1 | US Doomhammer, I should say |
| 19:52.36 | sag_ich_nicht | !vs us doomhammer sbo eu gul'dan ruknor |
| 19:52.39 | ThraeBot | sag_ich_nicht: Sbo vs Ruknor! A L70 mage and a L70 paladin square off!; 1/57/3 vs 0/8/53; Ruknor wins by 709 TBRs! ***OWNED!*** |
| 19:52.41 | sag_ich_nicht | die. |
| 19:53.03 | ScytheBlade1 | My mage has yet to win with that. Against anynoe. |
| 19:53.06 | ScytheBlade1 | *anyone |
| 19:53.17 | sag_ich_nicht | demons have no place in this world, burn in righteous fire. |
| 19:53.22 | ScytheBlade1 | I'm pretty sure that the TBR formula is increadibly biased against mages |
| 19:53.23 | ts|skrom | !vs us doomhammer sbo us uldum rho |
| 19:53.24 | ThraeBot | ts|skrom: Sbo vs Rho! Sbo has +8 lvls on Rho (70 vs 62); A L70 mage and a L62 warlock square off!; 1/57/3 vs 36/17/0; Sbo wins by 504 TBRs! ***OWNED!*** |
| 19:53.29 | ts|skrom | there you go buddy |
| 19:53.31 | ScytheBlade1 | That's a 62. |
| 19:53.53 | sag_ich_nicht | !vs us doomhammer sbo us doomhammer jigs |
| 19:53.54 | ThraeBot | sag_ich_nicht: Sbo vs Jigs! Two 70 mages square off!; 1/57/3 vs 10/48/3; Jigs wins by 38 TBRs! |
| 19:53.59 | sag_ich_nicht | lawl |
| 19:54.04 | sag_ich_nicht | RONG |
| 19:54.13 | ScytheBlade1 | It's just biased against me then. :P |
| 19:54.19 | ScytheBlade1 | !vs us doomhammer sbo us doomhammer myrothin |
| 19:54.20 | ThraeBot | ScytheBlade1: Sbo vs Myrothin! Two 70 mages square off!; 1/57/3 vs 10/48/3; Myrothin wins by 202 TBRs! |
| 19:54.24 | ts|skrom | !vs us uldum dalet us uldum fawn |
| 19:54.24 | ThraeBot | ts|skrom: dalet vs fawn! It's a showdown! But wait! What's this?! Something random? fawn always haxs, so wins automatically. |
| 19:54.34 | ts|skrom | haw? |
| 19:54.41 | ScytheBlade1 | See, both of those mages there? Jigs and Myrothin? I've duel them both at least 20 times each |
| 19:54.44 | ScytheBlade1 | I have yet to lose once |
| 19:54.49 | ScytheBlade1 | ... and yet, I get owned here. |
| 19:55.04 | ts|skrom | gear can't make up for skill? |
| 19:55.41 | ScytheBlade1 | That's pretty much the case with Myrothin actually, hehe. I've got less spell damage and a spec that gives me less mana, but he has yet to place above me on Void Reaver. |
| 19:55.56 | ScytheBlade1 | Same with Jigs |
| 19:57.26 | cog|work | !vs us garona cogwheel us doomhammer sbo |
| 19:57.27 | ThraeBot | cog|work: Cogwheel vs Sbo! A L70 warrior and a L70 mage square off!; 35/26/0 vs 1/57/3; Cogwheel wins by 66 TBRs! |
| 19:57.38 | cog|work | oops ... that's got my tank gear... |
| 19:58.00 | cog|work | oh... nm... that was quick... |
| 19:58.02 | cog|work | !vs us garona cogwheel us doomhammer sbo |
| 19:58.02 | ThraeBot | cog|work: Cogwheel vs Sbo! A L70 warrior and a L70 mage square off!; 35/26/0 vs 1/57/3; Cogwheel wins by 66 TBRs! |
| 19:58.10 | ScytheBlade1 | See? |
| 19:58.18 | ScytheBlade1 | I have yet to have Sbo win a single one with !vs |
| 19:58.25 | ScytheBlade1 | (Against an equal level char :P) |
| 19:58.54 | sag_ich_nicht | !vs us garona cogwheel eu gul'dan ruknor |
| 19:58.54 | ThraeBot | sag_ich_nicht: Cogwheel vs Ruknor! A L70 warrior and a L70 paladin square off!; 35/26/0 vs 0/8/53; Ruknor wins by 477 TBRs! |
| 19:58.55 | kaiden | my addiction has reached a new high.. http://ohnoes.cc/pictures/iPhone_Drop_371.jpg |
| 19:59.05 | ts|skrom | !vs us doomhammer sbo us uldum kirros |
| 19:59.06 | ThraeBot | ts|skrom: Sbo vs Kirros! A L70 mage and a L70 druid square off!; 1/57/3 vs 48/0/13; Kirros wins by 615 TBRs! ***OWNED!*** |
| 19:59.10 | ts|skrom | eek |
| 19:59.12 | ts|skrom | and he sucks |
| 19:59.22 | Cidan | !vs us eredar cidan us garona cogwheel |
| 19:59.23 | sag_ich_nicht | i say the bot is baised because of my pvp bracers |
| 19:59.23 | ThraeBot | Cidan: Cidan vs Cogwheel! Cogwheel has +5 lvls on Cidan (65 vs 70); A L65 paladin and a L70 warrior square off!; 43/13/0 vs 35/26/0; Cogwheel wins by 465 TBRs! |
| 19:59.27 | ScytheBlade1 | See what I mean? |
| 19:59.28 | ts|skrom | !vs us doomhammer sbo us uldum soryk |
| 19:59.28 | Cidan | :D |
| 19:59.29 | ThraeBot | ts|skrom: Sbo vs Soryk! A L70 mage and a L70 shaman square off!; 1/57/3 vs 11/0/50; Soryk wins by 144 TBRs! |
| 19:59.31 | cog|work | kaiden: quad boxing? |
| 19:59.32 | ts|skrom | hrm |
| 19:59.36 | sag_ich_nicht | !vs us eredar cidan eu gul'dan ruknor |
| 19:59.36 | ThraeBot | sag_ich_nicht: Cidan vs Ruknor! Ruknor has +5 lvls on Cidan (65 vs 70); Two paladins square off!; 43/13/0 vs 0/8/53; Ruknor wins by 941 TBRs! ***OWNED!*** |
| 19:59.42 | ts|skrom | !vs us doomhammer sbo us uldum blueberrie |
| 19:59.44 | ThraeBot | ts|skrom: Sbo vs Blueberrie! A L70 mage and a L70 priest square off!; 1/57/3 vs 21/40/0; Blueberrie wins by 155 TBRs! |
| 19:59.46 | ts|skrom | wtf |
| 19:59.48 | Cidan | psh |
| 19:59.49 | ScytheBlade1 | Told you |
| 19:59.52 | kaiden | cog|work, actually i usually 5 box, but i recently got rid of a few of my monitors |
| 19:59.52 | sag_ich_nicht | you stupid healbot! |
| 19:59.54 | ScytheBlade1 | I. Don't. Win. |
| 20:00.00 | kaiden | and switched to a really big lcd tv |
| 20:00.01 | ts|skrom | she's completely healing spec with practically no +damage |
| 20:00.01 | kaiden | :P |
| 20:00.06 | Cidan | Why? |
| 20:00.07 | cog|work | :) |
| 20:00.16 | sag_ich_nicht | +s |
| 20:00.17 | cladhaire | !vs us doomhammer sbo us stormrage sagart |
| 20:00.17 | ThraeBot | cladhaire: sbo vs sagart! It's a showdown! But wait! What's this?! Something random? sbo wins by 6721406 TBRs! Wow, that's GOTTA hurt. |
| 20:00.19 | sag_ich_nicht | because i can |
| 20:00.23 | ScytheBlade1 | lol |
| 20:00.24 | sag_ich_nicht | lol |
| 20:00.24 | Cidan | Yes, but why? |
| 20:00.27 | cladhaire | hahaha |
| 20:00.28 | ScytheBlade1 | Okay that was epic |
| 20:00.29 | cladhaire | !vs us doomhammer sbo us stormrage sagart |
| 20:00.30 | ThraeBot | cladhaire: Sbo vs Sagart! A L70 mage and a L70 priest square off!; 1/57/3 vs 17/0/44; Sbo wins by 72 TBRs! |
| 20:00.35 | cladhaire | you beat me =) |
| 20:00.35 | ScytheBlade1 | ! |
| 20:00.38 | ScytheBlade1 | !! |
| 20:00.41 | cladhaire | dunno why |
| 20:00.42 | cladhaire | but you did |
| 20:00.45 | ScytheBlade1 | lol yeah |
| 20:00.49 | cladhaire | and mages can't kill shadow priests |
| 20:00.54 | cladhaire | so i'd be interested to know how this happens :P |
| 20:00.56 | ScytheBlade1 | I think we need to see the source to TBR :P |
| 20:00.58 | ScytheBlade1 | ~tbr |
| 20:00.59 | purl | it has been said that tbr is ThraeBot Ratings, an invention of Thrae for his ThraeBot. It works on a weighted logarithmic algorithm partially dependant on build type that, when used to compare two characters, tries to take into account which classes are fighting each other. or "to be released" |
| 20:01.12 | sag_ich_nicht | i think we need to lynch Thrae |
| 20:01.19 | ScytheBlade1 | I'd agree with that too |
| 20:01.20 | sag_ich_nicht | it's what we shoulda' do |
| 20:01.35 | ScytheBlade1 | It really is just broken |
| 20:02.08 | Olison | its utter bs ;D |
| 20:03.02 | ts|skrom | blue suede? |
| 20:03.08 | ts|skrom | that would be udder bs |
| 20:03.24 | ts|skrom | blue suede comes from blue cows, it's udderly delightful |
| 20:03.55 | ScytheBlade1 | ts|skrom, I'm going to have to hurt you now. You know this, right? |
| 20:04.05 | ts|skrom | *bends over* |
| 20:04.08 | ts|skrom | be gentle |
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| 20:04.17 | sag_ich_nicht | ... |
| 20:04.21 | ScytheBlade1 | . . . |
| 20:04.47 | ts|skrom | holy crap it's 3:00 already! |
| 20:04.53 | ts|skrom | 30 mins til quitting time |
| 20:07.38 | ScytheBlade1 | http://explosm.net/comics/1007/ |
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| 20:20.22 | Mr_Rabies2 | is anyone else's wau crash-prone? :o |
| 20:21.08 | sag_ich_nicht | not mine |
| 20:21.11 | sag_ich_nicht | the ads crash it |
| 20:21.14 | sag_ich_nicht | mine doesn't have ads |
| 20:21.14 | Mr_Rabies2 | is it? |
| 20:21.15 | Mr_Rabies2 | bleh |
| 20:21.16 | sag_ich_nicht | no crashes. |
| 20:21.30 | sag_ich_nicht | 1.9.24.429 ftw |
| 20:21.49 | Elkano | Mr_Rabies, tried reinstalling? |
| 20:22.27 | Mr_Rabies2 | i have not yet |
| 20:22.31 | Mr_Rabies2 | i will attempt that perhaps |
| 20:24.06 | Mr_Rabies2 | okay, uninstalled, now to remember how to install it again |
| 20:26.34 | Elkano | visit http://www.wowace.com/wau/publish.htm using IE |
| 20:27.00 | Mr_Rabies2 | yar u git ut |
| 20:27.15 | Elkano | well, had to reinstall today, too ^^ |
| 20:28.13 | Mr_Rabies2 | wow |
| 20:28.17 | Mr_Rabies2 | yar i got it* |
| 20:28.35 | Mr_Rabies2 | i was typing on my laptop while looking at my desktop |
| 20:28.50 | sag_ich_nicht | ~slap sag_ich_nicht |
| 20:28.51 | purl | ACTION slaps sag_ich_nicht, keep your grubby fingers to yourself! |
| 20:29.02 | sag_ich_nicht | grubby, that was the adjective |
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| 20:34.11 | bleeter | bah, .NET crap |
| 20:34.18 | sag_ich_nicht | yes |
| 20:34.20 | sag_ich_nicht | also doom |
| 20:34.46 | bleeter | I should really tidy up this shell script, then publish it |
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| 20:35.01 | bleeter | far more cross-platform than anything else I've seen |
| 20:36.00 | bleeter | damn ugly thing atm tho |
| 20:46.35 | Cairenn|afk | anyone in here familiar with Vista? |
| 20:46.59 | Kaydeethree | "I hate dealing with users on Vista." is about as much as I know |
| 20:46.59 | cog|work | I use it at home |
| 20:47.39 | AnduinLothar | i reboot into it for games, which is prolly silly |
| 20:47.42 | alestane | Very passingly familiar. |
| 20:48.14 | alestane | Cairenn|afk: So toss your question out and maybe ONE of us can answer it. |
| 20:48.16 | Cairenn|afk | cog|work: the guy that is having problems installing the mods - I've told him he needs to either move WoW to Games instead of Program Files, or to "Run as Admin". but he can't figure out where/how to do either of those, and I don't know enough to tell him how. |
| 20:48.23 | Cairenn|afk | (was typing) :) |
| 20:48.33 | cog|work | ungh |
| 20:48.54 | cog|work | /cast Feign Disconnect |
| 20:49.01 | alestane | We don't teach computer literacy. |
| 20:49.07 | Kaydeethree | ^ |
| 20:49.11 | cog|work | ^^ |
| 20:49.31 | cog|work | Cairenn|afk: basic folder manipulation is something that is REALLY hard to teach over text |
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| 20:49.53 | Cairenn|afk | he can't find where the "Games" folder is |
| 20:50.00 | cog|work | well it doesn't really come with one |
| 20:50.05 | alestane | And Vista shouldn't have anything to do with it. |
| 20:50.19 | cog|work | he can make a new folder in C:\ |
| 20:50.33 | cog|work | or just copy WoW straight to there without the Games intermediary |
| 20:50.44 | Cairenn|afk | sec |
| 20:51.12 | Cairenn|afk | http://www.wowinterface.com/forums/showpost.php?p=67165&postcount=29 |
| 20:51.28 | Saint-N | http://www.break.com/index/how-to-untangle-mp3-headphones.html |
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| 20:51.47 | ScytheBlade1 | To be fair, I really think that Blizzard should change where addons are stored (same with WTF, WDB, etc) |
| 20:51.53 | ScytheBlade1 | It'd solve... everything |
| 20:52.05 | Kaydeethree | no freaking joke |
| 20:52.15 | alestane | The folder hierarchy would then have to change on different platforms though. |
| 20:52.18 | ScytheBlade1 | Docs\Games\World of Warcraft\Interface |
| 20:52.20 | ScytheBlade1 | It does already. |
| 20:52.23 | ScytheBlade1 | OSX. |
| 20:52.24 | ScytheBlade1 | ;) |
| 20:52.39 | alestane | I run OSX...same folder structure as WinXP. |
| 20:52.43 | Polarina | I think they should change that \ to a / for folders. |
| 20:52.44 | Saint-N | heh just pick a different directory than program files when installing on vista ;) |
| 20:52.55 | Saint-N | OR |
| 20:53.19 | ScytheBlade1 | I'm pretty sure that only Kaydeethree really understood what I meant by that, judging from the responses :P |
| 20:53.21 | Saint-N | dont bother with vista if you only do email and web browsing as the most "hardcore computering" that you do |
| 20:53.42 | Saint-N | ;) |
| 20:53.47 | bleeter | Kaydeethree: have you ever tried soft or hardlinking bits of WoW to 'random' spots? I'm just wondering what the game would think... I figure it might not like the softlinks, but prolly the hardlinks would be fine. |
| 20:54.00 | Saint-N | ScytheBlade1: i understood it it just didnt warrant mention ;) |
| 20:54.02 | Polarina | symlinks? |
| 20:54.04 | Kaydeethree | softlinks work. that's how I added a bunch of my music to Soundtrack |
| 20:54.07 | ScytheBlade1 | Saint-N, then you win ;) |
| 20:54.29 | bleeter | Kaydeethree: rofl... nice one... /me heads off and softlinks his 160GB NFS music share |
| 20:54.35 | ScytheBlade1 | cog|work, somewhat related note... what are the chances of throwing my .zip --> .wowaddon suggestion into the suggested list? |
| 20:54.38 | Saint-N | but cee colon forward slash would make it far to difficult for most people ;) |
| 20:54.44 | alestane | I'm not KD3, but I did redirect my screenshots directory for a while. Worked until a patch and I didn't feel like fixing it. |
| 20:55.29 | cog|work | ScytheBlade1: high, though i don't think that's what you're really asking... :P |
| 20:55.41 | bleeter | oh, on the subject of music... good mate of mine in SF is LFM to go see Underworld this weekend... /msg me if you're going, I'll hook you up with one of the nicest open source guys on the planet (true! they do exist!) |
| 20:55.44 | ScytheBlade1 | cog|work, the one suggest I have in that thread which Iriel responded to :P |
| 20:55.53 | Kaydeethree | cripes! 160GB of music? |
| 20:56.04 | Saint-N | cog|work: don't do it ITS A TRAP! |
| 20:56.13 | cog|work | ScytheBlade1: your chances are high that i will put it on the list. |
| 20:56.13 | Kaydeethree | I thought I was doing good with somewhere around 41 gigs |
| 20:56.17 | bleeter | Kaydeethree: yeah, one day I'll get around to ripping the Vinyl I have, too, will easily double that |
| 20:56.19 | Saint-N | ive got somewhere around 90gigs of music |
| 20:56.28 | ScytheBlade1 | cog|work, hot, thanks. |
| 20:56.31 | Saint-N | most of it is old classic punk stuff ;) |
| 20:56.39 | Kaydeethree | I really need to rip dad's vinyl for him. it's not going to last forever. |
| 20:56.55 | cog|work | ScytheBlade1: there is still a more relevant question you could be asking which would interest you more :P |
| 20:57.04 | ScytheBlade1 | If it would be accepted? :P |
| 20:57.08 | bleeter | I gotta rip a bunch of 78's, too :/ |
| 20:57.08 | alestane | "Chances of it being accepted". |
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| 20:58.28 | ScytheBlade1 | Well I can hope. |
| 20:58.55 | cog|work | ScytheBlade1: you asked about the /chance/ it would be added... But there is a near 100% /chance/ that the sun will be burnt out in 300 billion years. |
| 20:59.23 | Cide | unless we restart it, like in Sunshine |
| 20:59.24 | ScytheBlade1 | cog|work, you know, a yes or no would be ideal in this situation, but I'll take what I can get :P |
| 20:59.29 | Kaydeethree | huh? not even that long. thought it was somehwhere around 12b or so that the sun'd run out of hydrogen |
| 20:59.53 | cog|work | Kaydeethree: exactly |
| 21:00.15 | cog|work | I was illustrating that ScytheBlade1 is probably more interested in knowing when or perhaps even commanding me to do it soon ;) |
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| 21:00.55 | cog|work | Kind of an extreme stretch of the "can I go to the bathroom?" "Of course you /can/" |
| 21:01.00 | ScytheBlade1 | cog|work, sorry, didn't get much sleep last night (5h) and my sister sent two people to the hospital yesterday in a car accident, I'm a bit out of it :P |
| 21:01.10 | cog|work | O.O |
| 21:01.14 | ScytheBlade1 | Yeah. |
| 21:01.20 | Cairenn|afk | oh dear, hope everyone is okay |
| 21:01.28 | cog|work | we've been on the other end of that... |
| 21:02.10 | ScytheBlade1 | She's a brand new driver... had her license for three weeks |
| 21:02.10 | ScytheBlade1 | The car she was in needs a new body, end of story |
| 21:02.10 | ScytheBlade1 | But the husband and wife on the two seperate Harley motorcycles, well, they're in the hospital, and their bikes are junked. |
| 21:02.17 | Cairenn|afk | oh shit |
| 21:02.24 | ScytheBlade1 | Yeah. So. Little out of it. :P |
| 21:02.41 | cog|work | :S |
| 21:03.27 | ScytheBlade1 | So, apologies if I was asking something incorrectly a bit ago, there is a reason behind it :P |
| 21:03.49 | ScytheBlade1 | cog|work, would you mind throwing my suggestion in the suggested list, if you feel it has enough merit/is on topic? I'd love to see what might come out of that |
| 21:03.51 | ScytheBlade1 | ;) |
| 21:03.54 | cog|work | Motorcycle accidents suck... they almost always rule liability in favor of the bikers... My sister-in-law hit a biker who had CROSSED THE DOUBLE YELLOW LINE but was still held liable because she was speeding by < 10 mph |
| 21:03.58 | ScytheBlade1 | That's about as cheesy as I get, sorry |
| 21:04.21 | ScytheBlade1 | Yeah, this was at a busy intersection, and she was indeed in the wrong |
| 21:04.34 | cog|work | ScytheBlade1: sure... not sure when though... I've got quite a bit to catch up with in that thread |
| 21:04.42 | ScytheBlade1 | lol not a problem |
| 21:04.55 | ScytheBlade1 | I just wanted to make sure it wasn't forgotten or considered too far out/off topic |
| 21:05.03 | amro | my options for the default UI's Floating Combat Text keep getting reset, any idea why? |
| 21:05.06 | ScytheBlade1 | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=101150523&sid=1&pageNo=1 <-- I had to dig to find it myself :P |
| 21:05.21 | ScytheBlade1 | It's already down to page 13 |
| 21:05.35 | cog|work | heh. i usually google it :P |
| 21:05.44 | bleeter | [The topic you're looking for is not found] |
| 21:05.46 | ScytheBlade1 | lol, I'm surprised you don't have it bookmarked ;) |
| 21:05.52 | bleeter | 'oh, damn |
| 21:06.01 | Mr_Rabies2 | hrm |
| 21:06.02 | bleeter | that URL didn't wrap for me... I wonder what I screwed up there :/ |
| 21:06.09 | ScytheBlade1 | lol |
| 21:06.23 | Mr_Rabies2 | other droods that happen to be here, halp me find a trinket or two to replace mine :x |
| 21:06.33 | Mr_Rabies2 | moroes won't drop his freaking pocket watch |
| 21:06.49 | Mr_Rabies2 | and i can't get darkrunes fast enough for a badge of tenacity, so i need more options |
| 21:06.52 | Mr_Rabies2 | for tanking, that is |
| 21:07.09 | ScytheBlade1 | Lots of money and your local auction house. |
| 21:07.41 | Saint-N | how can you not get darkrunes fast enough? |
| 21:07.50 | ScytheBlade1 | Actually I'd be more constructive, but my druid is only level 65 atm |
| 21:07.57 | Mr_Rabies2 | Saint-N, because they're too uncommon |
| 21:07.58 | Saint-N | those arent the same runes taht drop non stop from the jadefires and scholo are they? |
| 21:08.00 | Mr_Rabies2 | no |
| 21:08.15 | Mr_Rabies2 | http://www.wowhead.com/?item=32643 |
| 21:08.30 | Mr_Rabies2 | can only get one a day, and it's a pretty rare chance out of the bag |
| 21:08.30 | ScytheBlade1 | Darkrune, not Dark Rune |
| 21:09.17 | Saint-N | ahh |
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| 21:21.24 | Wraanger | heyaz |
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| 21:22.14 | alestane | Heading home. |
| 21:22.19 | Cairenn|afk | hi, bye |
| 21:22.46 | Cidan | NOOOOOOOO |
| 21:22.53 | Cidan | DON'T LEAVVEE USSSS HOT REDHEEADDDD |
| 21:22.55 | Cidan | NOOOOOOOOOO |
| 21:23.35 | Kaydeethree | lmfao! |
| 21:23.39 | Kaydeethree | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=1371462379&sid=1#2 |
| 21:24.08 | Cidan | wai |
| 21:24.08 | Cidan | ? |
| 21:24.09 | Cidan | :( |
| 21:24.11 | Cidan | no sulk |
| 21:24.23 | cog|work | Kaydeethree: >< |
| 21:24.25 | bleeter | lol Kaydeethree |
| 21:24.26 | Cairenn|afk | you guys are so fickle |
| 21:24.59 | ScytheBlade1 | A hahaha |
| 21:25.11 | Cairenn|afk | rofl KD3 |
| 21:25.47 | ScytheBlade1 | We need to find a way to preserve that thread |
| 21:26.23 | Kaydeethree | It'll show up on the bluetracker in a few hours |
| 21:26.38 | ScytheBlade1 | True |
| 21:28.28 | bleeter | love the KillWine script =) |
| 21:28.39 | ScytheBlade1 | Yeah, I laughed at that |
| 21:28.51 | cog|work | do they wipe the ptr forum each patch? |
| 21:28.55 | Kaydeethree | kinda necessary for the git builds of wine refusing to safely exit the PTR |
| 21:28.56 | Kaydeethree | yes |
| 21:29.09 | bleeter | Kaydeethree: wine's been doing that since 0.9.44 :/ |
| 21:29.26 | bleeter | haven't really had time to sit down and locate why |
| 21:29.28 | ScytheBlade1 | Oddly, mine exists fine |
| 21:29.30 | ScytheBlade1 | *exits |
| 21:29.35 | ScytheBlade1 | It USED to sit there and do nothing |
| 21:29.36 | bleeter | ScytheBlade1: wine --version ? |
| 21:29.41 | ScytheBlade1 | No clue why it just fixed itself |
| 21:29.52 | ScytheBlade1 | 0.9.35 and 0.9.40 |
| 21:30.12 | bleeter | "wine's been doing that since 0.9.44" |
| 21:30.18 | Shirik | Kaydeethree: Awesome |
| 21:30.19 | Kaydeethree | it's working fine in 0.9.33 |
| 21:30.32 | ScytheBlade1 | It did that to me on both .35 and .40 though. |
| 21:30.35 | ScytheBlade1 | And then fixed itself. |
| 21:30.49 | Kaydeethree | s/33/43/ |
| 21:31.33 | Shirik | THESE ARE STICKIES! These are not stickies. |
| 21:31.58 | bleeter | yes, something 'broke' it between 43 and 44 |
| 21:32.04 | Shirik | lol "not a sticky" on the right side |
| 21:32.17 | Shirik | I <3 you Kaydeethree |
| 21:32.49 | bleeter | oO wait wait wait |
| 21:33.00 | Cidan | I wish I could run linux 24/7, sigh. |
| 21:33.02 | bleeter | I just realised something... something deeply disturbing |
| 21:33.06 | Cidan | It's so much nicer than windows. |
| 21:33.24 | Shirik | likes |
| 21:33.25 | Shirik | lies* |
| 21:33.31 | Cidan | lulz. |
| 21:33.33 | Shirik | you don't get a "do do, do doo! humm" |
| 21:33.35 | Shirik | at the startup |
| 21:33.47 | Cidan | If it weren't for games, I would never touch Windows |
| 21:33.47 | bleeter | refresh kd3's post there, I realised Hortus was admitting something |
| 21:34.23 | Cidan | oh well, bbl |
| 21:34.26 | ScytheBlade1 | A hahaha |
| 21:34.27 | ScytheBlade1 | NICE. |
| 21:34.28 | bleeter | cya Cidan |
| 21:35.55 | cladhaire | Anyone know what the PARENT framestrata does, other than use the strata of the parent? |
| 21:36.29 | Shirik | it accesses a pointer which points to the string "PARENT" |
| 21:36.37 | Shirik | but you don't see that, that's behind the scenes |
| 21:36.49 | cladhaire | i hate you |
| 21:36.51 | Shirik | <3 |
| 21:37.17 | Shirik | "garbage in garbage out" It's why we'll never have computers like those on Star Trek |
| 21:37.27 | Shirik | humans can't ask a solid question for the life of them |
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| 21:41.06 | ScytheBlade1 | holy crap is it nice to see two blues in that new wine thread |
| 21:43.48 | bleeter | tigerclaw's cool, he seems to keep an eye out for wine stuff related to OGL or deep *nix issues |
| 21:44.04 | bleeter | (iirc, Mac hardware dude) |
| 21:44.35 | ScytheBlade1 | Yeah |
| 21:44.41 | Shirik | well tbh, in most cases, if it's surfacing in *nix |
| 21:44.49 | Shirik | it's an omen that it's going to surface somewhere else down the road |
| 21:44.59 | Shirik | I'm glad they realize that |
| 21:45.01 | ScytheBlade1 | Whoo a fix! |
| 21:45.09 | bleeter | ScytheBlade1: for? |
| 21:47.11 | ScytheBlade1 | Wine, from that thread |
| 21:47.21 | ScytheBlade1 | Haha and that was you who posted it.. ? |
| 21:47.24 | bleeter | ScytheBlade1: welcome to last week! :P |
| 21:47.34 | ScytheBlade1 | Holy crap, 8/30 |
| 21:47.47 | ScytheBlade1 | How did I not see that thread |
| 21:48.24 | bleeter | aye, was me beating on the fmod lead programmer that finally got the Wine Dsound guy to implement undocumented DSOUND behaviour, and probably an FModex.dll 'fix' that may solve a bunch of Vista audio issues |
| 21:49.00 | ScytheBlade1 | Course, gentoo tends to lag behind in stabalizing wine, and even then they have to release a version with this fix first |
| 21:49.09 | ScytheBlade1 | Looks like I get to build it, yay |
| 21:49.47 | bleeter | it's only a one line change, I've never used gentoo but I'd find it hard to believe one can't add in local patches to a build |
| 21:50.24 | ScytheBlade1 | Considering that it is a source distro, they did make things like throwing one line patches in easily doable |
| 21:50.44 | ScytheBlade1 | But I'd also just as soon build it from source myself |
| 21:50.56 | buu | y/w 57 |
| 21:51.50 | ScytheBlade1 | That's a lot of objects, heh |
| 21:52.00 | ScytheBlade1 | 321090 in wine.git |
| 21:53.52 | ScytheBlade1 | Haha, 11GB of WoW crashes. |
| 21:59.17 | cog|work | Kaydeethree: boooooo for self-censoring |
| 21:59.19 | cog|work | :P |
| 21:59.29 | Kaydeethree | hm? |
| 21:59.32 | cog|work | (or did it get modded? XD ) |
| 21:59.57 | cog|work | your little explosion at secretstrike |
| 22:00.17 | Kaydeethree | I took it out. surprised you saw it. had it up for about 10 seconds |
| 22:00.43 | ScytheBlade1 | 9 --> 11 eh |
| 22:00.58 | cog|work | Yeah... I know how much better it feels just to hit Post even if you don't intend to leave it :) |
| 22:01.56 | Polarina | >>> _G |
| 22:01.56 | Cide | Polarina: { ["log"] = function: 0024A2C8, ["wow"] = { ["strconcat"] = function: 0024ADD0, ["strtrim"] = function: 0024AD30, ["debugstack"] = function: 0024AE30, ["getglobal"] = function: 0024ADF0, ["setglobal"]... (exceeded 200 characters) |
| 22:04.04 | ScytheBlade1 | bleeter, wtf. http://bugs.winehq.org/attachment.cgi?id=7855&action=diff Current git revision... that doesn't come close to matching |
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| 22:04.53 | zenzelezz | that's what you get for seeking help from gits |
| 22:05.31 | bleeter | ScytheBlade1: that's the real patch to cover the undocumented dsound behaviour. previous demonstrations were merely forcing the dsound.dll to stay up. |
| 22:06.05 | ScytheBlade1 | bleeter, so do I need to apply that? (Little out of it atm) |
| 22:06.10 | ScytheBlade1 | Or will the current git version work? |
| 22:06.13 | sag_ich_nicht | #debian is not being helpful, again. anyone know what etch is using to write new mail notices to the active terminal? doesn't seem to be comsat, and changing my mailbox system to maildir broke the messages. |
| 22:06.33 | bleeter | ScytheBlade1: current git will work |
| 22:06.40 | ScytheBlade1 | bleeter, makes that easy. Thanks. |
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| 22:09.48 | ScytheBlade1 | thanks again, bleeter |
| 22:11.33 | bleeter | ScytheBlade1: np, glad to be of assistance :) |
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| 22:20.01 | Cidan | so |
| 22:20.03 | Cidan | FMOD is crap. |
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| 22:27.22 | Kaydeethree | ScytheBlade1, http://blue.cardplace.com/newcache/us/1371462379.htm |
| 22:29.48 | cladhaire | Kaydeethree: that is win. |
| 22:29.49 | AnduinLothar | What's paladin agi to dodge ratio? |
| 22:31.26 | [dRaCo] | isnt agi/dodge the same for all chars? |
| 22:31.26 | art3mis | hehe thats a great pic kay |
| 22:32.15 | AnduinLothar | dunno, what is it? |
| 22:32.48 | Kaydeethree | http://www.wowwiki.com/Agility#Agility |
| 22:32.58 | [dRaCo] | http://wowwiki.com/Formulas:Agility#Agility_per_.2B1.25_Dodge_chance |
| 22:33.18 | [dRaCo] | not the same for all chars, sorry. |
| 22:33.58 | [dRaCo] | pala need 25 agi per % dodge. |
| 22:35.52 | AnduinLothar | Anyone knwo if the pally pvp glove bonus to judgement of crusader is applied before or after the talent +15% and the 2piece tier 4 bonus +15% ? |
| 22:36.05 | AnduinLothar | and Libram of Zeal |
| 22:37.02 | AnduinLothar | gloves: +20; tier4: +15%; talent: +15%; libram: +47 |
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| 22:37.08 | art3mis | http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=3004818&sku=J300-1022&CMP=EMC-TIGEREMAIL&SRCCODE=WEM1446C |
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| 22:37.25 | THECraZY | hi everyone |
| 22:38.05 | |Jelly| | hi |
| 22:38.10 | THECraZY | I wonder if you guys can help, im trying to use GetBattlefieldScore(index) were do i get the index info for a given player? |
| 22:38.40 | THECraZY | i was looking for something like... getindex(nameofplayer) |
| 22:38.48 | THECraZY | i may be dreaming |
| 22:41.25 | AnduinLothar | weird... taking off the Libram of Zeal only makes it do 19 less dmg, not the listed 27 |
| 22:42.54 | THECraZY | So no one knows what the index is and how to get it? |
| 22:43.23 | AnduinLothar | you have to loop 1-max |
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| 22:43.43 | AnduinLothar | usign whatever func gives the name |
| 22:44.00 | THECraZY | your saying im gonna have to do a for loop for the number of players in the battlefied and compare names untill i get the right one.... |
| 22:44.02 | THECraZY | sucky |
| 22:44.40 | art3mis | but he's right for he is Lothar of the hillspeople! |
| 22:45.25 | THECraZY | oh |
| 22:46.45 | art3mis | oh hey anyone know off hand a good place to get older ipaq and dell axim's? |
| 22:46.50 | art3mis | aside from ebay and craigslist? |
| 22:47.31 | cladhaire | i have an ipaq for sale. |
| 22:47.46 | cladhaire | if that helps :P |
| 22:49.28 | bleeter | Kaydeethree: link me the stickies! |
| 22:49.44 | Kaydeethree | http://img230.imageshack.us/img230/50/findstickiesid7.jpg |
| 22:49.46 | cladhaire | art3mis: ping me for more info if you'd like.. its useless to me. |
| 22:50.04 | bleeter | Kaydeethree: I keep clicking them there but it don't work! U LIE! |
| 22:53.13 | AnduinLothar | weird |
| 22:54.00 | AnduinLothar | The +20 bonus from the gloves seems to be added before the tier4 15% is calculated, but the 47 from the libram is added after.. |
| 22:54.13 | AnduinLothar | either that or the libram is only doing 42 and not 47 |
| 22:56.12 | cog|work | I'm glad to see science and reason progressing around the world ... http://www.reuters.com/article/oddlyEnoughNews/idUSEIC47086020070904?feedType=RSS&feedName=oddlyEnoughNews |
| 22:57.14 | Kaydeethree | heh |
| 22:59.43 | Rallion | but it worked! |
| 23:00.25 | art3mis | were they flying with oly 1 engine? |
| 23:00.27 | art3mis | only |
| 23:03.03 | bleeter | kinda reminds me of the prayer day organised over here to try and break the drought |
| 23:03.41 | zenzelezz | did it work? |
| 23:03.47 | bleeter | poured down, floods, etc., a few days beforehand... leading to the suggestion that god broke the drought to stop the prayers bothering him |
| 23:04.00 | zenzelezz | haha |
| 23:04.39 | bleeter | and the question "Does that mean he does negotiate with blackmailers?" |
| 23:05.19 | zenzelezz | if I was a believer I wouldn't pray |
| 23:05.29 | zenzelezz | would be too confusing if he didn't listen |
| 23:09.07 | Rallion | that reminds me...I really hate it when I go to a wedding and the pastor or whoever is really annoying about assuming everybody in attendance is a christian |
| 23:10.40 | Cidan | FMOD is the failest fail to have ever failed |
| 23:10.50 | THECraZY | haha funny i went to a weading last week and the pastor made a remark about that |
| 23:11.30 | zenzelezz | Cidan: you're either typing incredibly slowly or you seem to be spontaneously returning to that subject |
| 23:11.50 | Cidan | The second one. |
| 23:12.10 | Cidan | Have I ever mentioned how much FMOD fails? |
| 23:12.20 | THECraZY | he was ok about it said something about not being here for our faith but to honnor those who decided to join their life... he was pretty cool about it |
| 23:12.28 | cog|work | no, you've only emphasized your belief in the fact that it has |
| 23:12.57 | cog|work | s/in the fact // |
| 23:13.13 | THECraZY | Oh KingCog is around |
| 23:13.18 | bleeter | Cidan: I get the feeling they're sticking with it for contractual obligations ;) |
| 23:13.40 | Rallion | yeah, THECraZY, I've seen that, too, one time, and it just makes me hate things like the wedding *I* just went to even more :P |
| 23:13.49 | THECraZY | hehe |
| 23:13.57 | cog|work | all the weddings I've been to recently were secular |
| 23:14.25 | cog|work | hell, mine was just me, my wife, and my mom at the county clerk's office (my mom so we didn't have to pay for a witness). Then we threw a huge potluck at my grandma's :) |
| 23:14.32 | Cidan | FMOD is licensed, not contracted |
| 23:14.44 | Cidan | They don't HAVE to use it |
| 23:14.51 | Cidan | but I wasn't refering to WoW anyways. |
| 23:14.51 | Mr_Rabies2 | i think the wow login music has me hooked, pavlovian style |
| 23:15.00 | Cidan | I was refering to Bioshock. |
| 23:15.02 | Cidan | It fails. |
| 23:15.02 | Mr_Rabies2 | every time i hear it i feel compelled to type my password |
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| 23:15.29 | cog|work | Reminds me of The Office |
| 23:15.40 | zenzelezz | UK or US version? |
| 23:15.47 | cog|work | never seen UK version :( |
| 23:16.03 | zenzelezz | only one I watch, I assume the US version is too... US for my taste |
| 23:16.10 | cog|work | most likely |
| 23:16.22 | cog|work | though i'm a bit more flexible :P |
| 23:17.23 | zenzelezz | I'm not universally opposed to US humor; but I more often dislike it than like it. UK humor is usually fairly close to Norwegian |
| 23:17.40 | cog|work | i'm fond of most humor |
| 23:18.08 | cog|work | I own pretty much all the monty python that exists on US DVD |
| 23:18.39 | zenzelezz | mainstream US humor seem to be mostly random jokes that don't even make me smile, like Bob Sagget and other "funny" show hosts >.< |
| 23:18.57 | zenzelezz | then again we only get a limited amount imported over here, so I may have a misperception |
| 23:19.05 | cog|work | bob sagget doesn't make many people in the US laugh though... |
| 23:19.59 | ScytheBlade1 | bleeter, gentoo applies several patches to wine by default. The git wine is locking up on WoW close, the gentoo wine is not. If you're going to look into that, I'd recommended looking into what patches gentoo applies first. |
| 23:19.59 | zenzelezz | I've watched a few episodes of whatever America's funniest videos was called those weeks (not with Sagget)... was a bunch of funny clips ruined by stupid commentary |
| 23:20.53 | Kaydeethree | ya |
| 23:21.27 | art3mis | bob saget is pretty funny as standup |
| 23:21.33 | art3mis | in a scripted sense he sucks ass |
| 23:21.39 | art3mis | kind of like colin quinn |
| 23:21.42 | zenzelezz | never saw him do standup |
| 23:22.01 | art3mis | colin quinn is horrible with a script |
| 23:22.11 | art3mis | but doing standup a lot of his ranting is hiarlious |
| 23:22.34 | art3mis | are you in the us? |
| 23:22.49 | zenzelezz | I'm .no |
| 23:22.51 | art3mis | showtime has been running some of his standup late at night |
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| 23:27.32 | bleeter | on the subject of depressing websites... http://www.marryourdaughter.com/ |
| 23:28.02 | ScytheBlade1 | ....... rofl |
| 23:29.10 | bleeter | gah, anything but homepage is 503'ing for me |
| 23:29.15 | ScytheBlade1 | ?I was SO scared getting married so young, but my husband is an okay guy and I am SO proud that because of me my parents were able to get their first brand-new car and take the trip they always wanted to. I couldn?t have done it without your site!" |
| 23:29.15 | ScytheBlade1 | ?Katrina K., married at 14 |
| 23:29.36 | bleeter | ah, refresh gets it |
| 23:30.01 | ScytheBlade1 | w t f @ their ages |
| 23:30.35 | Cairenn|afk | you have GOT to be joking! |
| 23:30.44 | Cairenn|afk | that site isn't for real, is it? |
| 23:30.57 | ScytheBlade1 | I can see it being real, but I can also see it being a complete joke |
| 23:30.58 | AnduinLothar | Service Temporarily Unavailable |
| 23:31.05 | bleeter | I was kinda wondering whether it was something for those who have certain religious beliefs... |
| 23:31.09 | ScytheBlade1 | Refresh |
| 23:31.09 | bleeter | but the black on black text at the bottom kinda gives it away |
| 23:31.13 | bleeter | AnduinLothar: refresh |
| 23:31.16 | art3mis | hehe complete with dowery ;P |
| 23:31.36 | bleeter | it's been reddit'd, and no doubt soon to be /.'d, etc. to hell and back |
| 23:31.41 | ScytheBlade1 | Yeah, anywhere from $20k to $50k ;P |
| 23:31.50 | art3mis | marriage arranged Russian Philippines mail-order bride matchmaker forced child slave prostitute hooker whore escort sell teen sexy sex childwatch naked abuse pervert wife preteen sex toy buy money sold traditionally tradition history marry obedient price parent young single own horror polygamy sex rape slavery American husband hot blonde brunette redhead 13 14 15 16 17 underage save stop illegal teenage delinquent juvenile family mone |
| 23:31.57 | art3mis | thosea re the meta tags ;P |
| 23:32.09 | ScytheBlade1 | lol |
| 23:32.13 | ScytheBlade1 | I should look at the source |
| 23:32.37 | ScytheBlade1 | <meta name="description" content="If you're a lonely guy who's tired of the dating scene, why not MARRY OUR DAUGHTER?" / |
| 23:32.38 | ScytheBlade1 | A hahahaha |
| 23:32.44 | art3mis | oh man the faq is AWESOME! |
| 23:32.46 | Cairenn|afk | I can't find/read the black on black text |
| 23:32.52 | art3mis | quoin: IS YOUR SERVICE LEGAL? |
| 23:32.53 | art3mis | A: Absolutely. Within the United States girls can marry as young as 13 years old with parental permission, and the Bride Price is a custom of long standing, mentioned many times in the Bible, and as such is a protected religious practice. Click HERE for a listing of the age limits and legal requirements in various states. Click HERE for what the Bible says on Bride Price. |
| 23:33.10 | Corrodias | oh wow, i saw preteen sex, rape, and slavery all in the same line |
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| 23:33.35 | art3mis | QQngsk: WHAT IF NO ONE PROPOSES TO MY DAUGHTER? |
| 23:33.36 | art3mis | A: In the unlikely event that no one proposes after six months, we will return 50 percent of your listing fee. |
| 23:33.44 | art3mis | bahahahaha |
| 23:34.19 | Corrodias | query |
| 23:34.37 | Corrodias | will the wowaceupdater program work with Rock? i assume it will, if and when that is put on the wowace listing |
| 23:34.46 | Corrodias | in |
| 23:35.03 | art3mis | “Our 15 year old daughter Mary wasn’t very popular and did nothing but mope around the house bringing everybody down, so we decided to marry her off through your site. Now our house is a lot cheerier and we love our new swimming pool and Jaccuzi! We’ve told our youngest that when she turns 15 we’re going to marry her off too!" |
| 23:35.03 | art3mis | <PROTECTED> |
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| 23:35.21 | AnduinLothar | >.< |
| 23:35.37 | Corrodias | okay, that totally ruins any semblence of legitimacy the site may have had |
| 23:35.44 | Corrodias | which makes it all the more amusing in a way |
| 23:36.04 | Corrodias | by legitimacy i mean not being a joke |
| 23:36.07 | AnduinLothar | [You] + 1 attacks (Reckoning) |
| 23:36.08 | AnduinLothar | [You] Melee Crit [Zaxxis Raider] *1131* |
| 23:36.08 | AnduinLothar | [You] Seal of Command Crit [Zaxxis Raider] *1598* |
| 23:36.08 | AnduinLothar | [You] Melee Crit [Zaxxis Raider] *1208* |
| 23:36.28 | ScytheBlade1 | Wait, that's a paladin |
| 23:36.31 | Corrodias | is that good for a paladin? |
| 23:36.32 | ScytheBlade1 | Quit doing DPS |
| 23:36.34 | ScytheBlade1 | Stop that |
| 23:36.41 | Corrodias | cool |
| 23:36.55 | AnduinLothar | for 1 swing, yes |
| 23:37.02 | Corrodias | wow, that's decent. |
| 23:37.04 | AnduinLothar | w/o raid buffs |
| 23:37.04 | zenzelezz | that was all one swing? |
| 23:37.08 | ckknight | Corrodias, yea, it'll work with Rock, seeing as it's housed on wowace |
| 23:37.33 | AnduinLothar | melee swing + crusader + reckoning bonus swing |
| 23:37.43 | Corrodias | i like when i get two shred crits and a Bite crit. well, until i die, because that's almost gauranteed to pull aggro. |
| 23:37.51 | Corrodias | on those early pulls anyway |
| 23:37.58 | Corrodias | in karazhan |
| 23:38.03 | Corrodias | wow, i left out a lot of context in my original statement |
| 23:38.14 | AnduinLothar | I've gotten better individual crits, but triple crits are rare |
| 23:38.22 | AnduinLothar | esp solo |
| 23:38.44 | zenzelezz | having been prot spec warrior for 16 months straight my idea of a higher number is a shield slam crit :-| |
| 23:39.00 | zenzelezz | *high |
| 23:41.25 | AnduinLothar | actually. that was unbuffed, except command |
| 23:41.57 | AnduinLothar | 3937 on one swing |
| 23:42.10 | AnduinLothar | 3.6 swing timer |
| 23:43.23 | AnduinLothar | can't wait fo rthe patch. i'm gonna start making pvp ret pally vids |
| 23:45.01 | Corrodias | arena experience has done nothing to dull my loathing for pvp paladins from my days in Alterac Valley |
| 23:45.29 | AnduinLothar | my pvp spec is doing pretty well |
| 23:45.49 | AnduinLothar | and i can tank AV if i need |
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| 23:52.01 | Shirik | Tuller: ping |
| 23:52.09 | Tuller | hrm? |
| 23:52.40 | Tuller | Shirik: or pong, if you're so inclined |
| 23:54.05 | Shirik | Hey have you heard any problem like this before? On one character, the Bongos bars go back to the center, as if they were set there, but not unlocked or in setup mode |
| 23:54.13 | Shirik | after fixing them, and doing a /reloadui, back to broken again |
| 23:54.34 | Tuller | what version are you using? |
| 23:54.52 | Tuller | something off of my SVN? or just from a website? |
| 23:55.03 | Tuller | (aka, don't use my SVN) |
| 23:55.08 | Tuller | and no, I've not heard of this one, at least not in a very long time :) |
| 23:55.25 | Tuller | are you switching resolutions/ui scale? |
| 23:56.28 | Shirik | it's not me actually, a guildie on vent |
| 23:56.32 | Shirik | trying to get this info, sorry |
| 23:56.47 | Tuller | well then we can probably assume its not off of my svn :) |
| 23:56.52 | art3mis | i wonder how craptastic vista64 business is gonna be on my 3800x2 amd with 2gb ram |
| 23:57.13 | Shirik | no to "switching resolutions", version 1.7.5 |
| 23:57.14 | art3mis | at least they fixed that whole 64bit only issue |
| 23:57.24 | Shirik | art3mis: I don't really have a problem with vista64 ultimate |
| 23:57.42 | art3mis | beta 64 you couldnt run 32bit at all |
| 23:57.49 | art3mis | which made program support nil ;P |
| 23:58.06 | art3mis | whats extra in ultimate? |
| 23:58.08 | Shirik | you don't use SavedVariablesPercharacter right? |
| 23:58.12 | Shirik | Probably nothing |
| 23:58.16 | art3mis | the bonus screen savers ? |
| 23:58.18 | Tuller | yeah I don't do that anymore |
| 23:58.27 | art3mis | does it do that beryl multiple desktop turning stuff? |
| 23:58.33 | Shirik | heh, I wish |
| 23:58.42 | Shirik | not 3d box like |
| 23:58.47 | Shirik | it does the little mousewheel kinda way |
| 23:58.48 | art3mis | i thought that was what aero was, a bastardized form of that |
| 23:58.58 | art3mis | oh |
| 23:58.59 | art3mis | weak |
| 23:59.00 | Shirik | tbh I hate that |
| 23:59.06 | Shirik | it's just annoying |
| 23:59.16 | zenzelezz | can you tell Vista to look and feel like 2000? |
| 23:59.22 | art3mis | its fun to play with when yer bored though |
| 23:59.49 | Tuller | I'm trying to think of what he might have done, hrm |
| 23:59.49 | art3mis | yeah its a registry setting DontBeGay 1 |
