| 00:00.09 | Rallion | filling out the wii repair form now. boooooooo. |
| 00:00.47 | kergoth | AnduinLothar, looks good |
| 00:01.53 | Cidan | your wii broke? |
| 00:01.55 | Cidan | :( |
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| 00:05.18 | Rallion | Cidan, not broken, but I have artifacts |
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| 00:05.27 | Cidan | :( |
| 00:05.34 | Rallion | they match all pictures I can find online of Wii artifacts, too |
| 00:05.39 | Rallion | kinda unique, actually |
| 00:06.00 | Rallion | rectangles filled with dots. |
| 00:06.35 | Rallion | plus this means I have to send it away, no advance stuff, because I'd like to keep all my VC purchases |
| 00:06.45 | Rallion | though I will be backing up my saves |
| 00:08.14 | Rallion | it's not going to stop me from playing metroid until I get my shipping label. |
| 00:20.56 | Cidan | lol |
| 00:25.30 | Cidan | I'm lonely, girlfriend is gone for the entire weekend, I'm all alone. :( |
| 00:25.35 | Cidan | some hot chick come cheer me up. |
| 00:25.37 | Cidan | :( |
| 00:28.30 | buu | HA HA YOU FAIL. |
| 00:33.11 | AnduinLothar | you can have my gf for the weekend |
| 00:33.24 | AnduinLothar | i might get some coding done |
| 00:34.19 | buu | AnduinLothar: Does that offer come with the pump? |
| 00:34.51 | AnduinLothar | nah, she's not into 3somes |
| 00:36.33 | Tem|AFK | He was implying that she's a blow up doll |
| 00:36.42 | AnduinLothar | i gathered as much |
| 00:37.29 | Kaydeethree | oh geez... my realm's forum trolls appear to have gone off the deep end |
| 00:37.38 | Kaydeethree | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=1272012187&sid=1 |
| 00:37.49 | Kaydeethree | it gets interesting around page 4 |
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| 01:00.47 | sag_ich_nicht | [02:25] <Cidan> I'm lonely, girlfriend is gone for the entire weekend, I'm all alone. :( <--oh yeah well fuck you and shut the fuck and be glad you have your girlfriend |
| 01:00.59 | sag_ich_nicht | >: |
| 01:01.02 | sag_ich_nicht | *>_< |
| 01:01.05 | sag_ich_nicht | sorry |
| 01:01.08 | sag_ich_nicht | not meant to be that mean |
| 01:01.14 | sag_ich_nicht | just... a bit bitter. |
| 01:01.29 | kergoth | just a bit. |
| 01:01.30 | sag_ich_nicht | and i just came from a harsh discussion in another channel >< |
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| 01:04.51 | sag_ich_nicht | it's 2 damn days, over in the flick of an eye, be glad for what you have, damnit, instead of being all emo about it |
| 01:05.11 | sag_ich_nicht | god i'm getting emo and angry myself, time to go to bed instead of making an ass of myself here >< |
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| 01:57.02 | Industrial | sag_ich_nicht: depends on how long shes been your girlfriend |
| 01:57.24 | Industrial | 2 weeks? nooooO!, 2 years? freedom! |
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| 02:11.49 | Thunder_Child | Industrial, and 20 years? |
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| 02:20.52 | Industrial | cant say :3 I'm 20 myself =D |
| 02:20.54 | Industrial | nn |
| 02:22.44 | Thunder_Child | night Industrial |
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| 03:11.19 | Shirik | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LWLbu1wIIEo |
| 03:19.10 | Thunder_Child | would have been more interesting if something had happened to him |
| 03:20.47 | Shirik | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z8bVx43qlHo |
| 03:20.53 | Shirik | (nothing happens to her either, sorry) |
| 03:24.55 | Thunder_Child | Shirik, bah |
| 03:33.02 | AnduinLothar | Captain Balinda Stonehearth yells: [Demonic] Kazile amanare maev Lok Sorankar adare kieldaz te Karaman Mannor |
| 03:33.27 | Shirik | o.o |
| 03:33.28 | Kaydeethree | woo for curse of tounges! |
| 03:33.32 | Shirik | lol |
| 03:36.35 | Chaotic_D | man, that strikes me as insanely stupid. even if you don't hit anything, I imagine the whiplash is horrible. |
| 03:36.56 | Shirik | it can't be worse than bungee jumping |
| 03:37.23 | Shirik | you can't exceed terminal velocity in either case, and you don't have any form of positive acceleration aside from the pull back on the cord |
| 03:37.23 | Chaotic_D | I wonder if she eventually hit the ground... |
| 03:37.34 | Shirik | that's impossible |
| 03:37.56 | Shirik | to do that, they would have had to start her from below the ground |
| 03:38.19 | Chaotic_D | really? it won't rotate at all? |
| 03:38.29 | Shirik | that's irrelevant, it's a matter of forces |
| 03:38.50 | Shirik | there is no force down aside from gravity, which has already been proven can be offset by the cables |
| 03:38.56 | Chaotic_D | well, I'm not the guy who studied physics. |
| 03:38.58 | Shirik | there is one other tension force with a downward component |
| 03:39.08 | Shirik | but it can't be any greater than the magnitude of what they started at |
| 03:39.11 | Kaydeethree | trees or the lines snapping |
| 03:39.15 | Shirik | and air resistance will reduce that |
| 03:39.30 | Shirik | so logically the only way to hit the ground would be to start below the ground |
| 03:39.35 | Chaotic_D | no, I mean the force that's sending her back and forth, that can't rotate down at some point, since she's not going in a straight line? |
| 03:39.42 | Shirik | nope |
| 03:39.50 | Shirik | it's a simple tension force, spring force in fact |
| 03:39.59 | Shirik | which cannot exceed the magnitude of its initial position |
| 03:40.17 | Shirik | the downward component can only be as great as its starting position ever, unless there were some external force acting upon it somewhere |
| 03:40.18 | Kaydeethree | ya, especially since they launched her in an upwards trajectory... if she jumped off of the barn or something |
| 03:40.47 | Shirik | she can't even try to move around to force it to rotate to a dangerous position, since she has nothing to act upon except air |
| 03:40.52 | Chaotic_D | anyways, whiplash. |
| 03:41.00 | Shirik | which, naturally, isn't going to give a very large response force |
| 03:41.04 | Shirik | of course :) |
| 03:41.09 | Kaydeethree | no arguments there |
| 03:41.29 | Shirik | Sorry Chaotic_D, my major contains a portion of physics :) |
| 03:41.43 | Shirik | it gets the better of me sometimes |
| 03:41.52 | Chaotic_D | also, that rollersuit ... though odd, looks like you could do some awesome stuff on. I've seen videos of him doing stunts before. |
| 03:42.04 | Shirik | how the hell that guy's still alive |
| 03:42.06 | Shirik | I'll never know |
| 03:42.09 | Cidan | lol |
| 03:47.41 | Chaotic_D | "Thanks to Tropical Topless Car Rentals" man, that sounds a lot cooler than it is. |
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| 04:00.10 | AnduinLothar | lol |
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| 04:10.30 | Chaotic_D | I wonder what the Horde would be called if they lost the Blood Elves and Forsaken and got the Goblins and became a neutral faction. |
| 04:10.51 | Chaotic_D | Horde just sounds aggressive. |
| 04:11.28 | Chaotic_D | god, I'm bored. |
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| 04:17.39 | Chaotic_D | <Lisa Simpson> I'm good-good-good and OH so smart! |
| 04:17.40 | blq | I think the horde is called that way since the orcs were driven mad by the burning legion |
| 04:17.57 | Chaotic_D | yeah. I wonder why they keep that name. :S |
| 04:18.30 | blq | true, I thought about that too |
| 04:19.23 | blq | the forsaken should be a own faction imo :< |
| 04:19.53 | blq | uffu! |
| 04:19.57 | Chaotic_D | I don't even know how they're a faction. |
| 04:20.21 | Chaotic_D | how many of them could there be? |
| 04:20.42 | blq | of the forsaken? |
| 04:20.52 | Chaotic_D | yeah. |
| 04:22.00 | blq | I think they're recruiting defectors of the scourge |
| 04:22.52 | blq | what ever.. blizzard is going to destroy the whole tale |
| 04:22.58 | Chaotic_D | yup. :> |
| 04:23.28 | blq | spaceships in wow oO |
| 04:23.37 | Chaotic_D | pretty soon we'll have wall-mounted keyboards and that will mark that the future has come to the present. |
| 04:23.40 | blq | a Alien temple (zg) |
| 04:23.54 | Chaotic_D | alien temple? |
| 04:24.16 | blq | zg - or what would you call these insects? |
| 04:24.48 | Chaotic_D | what's zg? |
| 04:24.55 | blq | Zul Gurub |
| 04:25.01 | blq | ahh |
| 04:25.01 | blq | sry |
| 04:25.05 | Chaotic_D | oh, I've never been there. |
| 04:25.08 | blq | my fault I mean Anki |
| 04:25.28 | Chaotic_D | Ahk'Quiraj? (sp?) |
| 04:25.44 | blq | yes .. sry |
| 04:26.01 | Chaotic_D | Ruins of Ahn'Qiraj |
| 04:26.15 | blq | exactly |
| 04:26.26 | Chaotic_D | mmm... it's Zerg, but it's not inherently futuristic. |
| 04:26.59 | blq | but it doesn't fit in the warcraft universe as well |
| 04:27.34 | Chaotic_D | I like the Qiraj and the Nerubians. |
| 04:27.54 | blq | what ever .. my spellings is getting more n more terrible.. it's 6:30 am in germany .. I propably should go to bed now :P |
| 04:28.37 | blq | *probably |
| 04:28.49 | Chaotic_D | I can read bad internet typing. :) |
| 04:29.07 | blq | I hate to type that way :( |
| 04:29.55 | blq | it certainly looks like I'm stupid or something |
| 04:30.28 | Chaotic_D | it only looks like you're stupid when you're tired and mix up Zul Gurub with Ahn'Qiraj. :> |
| 04:30.39 | blq | *pwnd* |
| 04:31.13 | blq | another reason to go to bed no |
| 04:31.15 | blq | *now |
| 04:31.27 | blq | good night |
| 04:31.28 | Chaotic_D | 6:30am is pretty late. |
| 04:31.29 | blq | bye :) |
| 04:31.30 | Chaotic_D | goodnight. |
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| 05:09.33 | Cairenn | how has everyone's weekend been so far? |
| 05:12.53 | Cidan | lonely |
| 05:12.55 | Cidan | You? |
| 05:13.24 | Cairenn | about the same - wishing I was at the party in NY right now |
| 05:13.45 | Cidan | I'm all alone in this apt 'til monday night |
| 05:13.47 | Cidan | :/ |
| 05:15.01 | Cairenn | awww, poor Cidan |
| 05:15.44 | Cidan | On the plus side, I just respeced my paladin holy again, and man, I missed it. |
| 05:16.57 | ckknight | what were you before? |
| 05:17.17 | Cidan | prot |
| 05:17.27 | Cidan | I was holy pre BC, went prot when BC came out |
| 05:17.31 | Cidan | now I'm back to holy |
| 05:17.54 | Cidan | my flash heals did 800-1k per heal pre-bc, :/ |
| 05:18.27 | Cairenn | Maldivia: ping? |
| 05:19.21 | Cairenn | Maldivia: response: "Nice trick, thanks for the heads up." |
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| 05:30.40 | Chaotic_D | I didn't know respecing costs went up so high... I thought it was just a gold or two. |
| 05:31.16 | Chaotic_D | wow, 50g. |
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| 05:36.24 | Tierrie | lonely here too |
| 05:36.27 | Tierrie | party in NY? |
| 05:36.30 | Tierrie | pARTay |
| 05:36.58 | Tierrie | i am wishing alcohol didn't have so many calories |
| 05:36.59 | Cairenn | yeah, clad and sior's going away party |
| 05:37.11 | Tierrie | going away where? |
| 05:37.24 | Cairenn | I was supposed to go but transportation just didn't work out |
| 05:37.28 | Cairenn | England |
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| 05:39.25 | Tierrie | why is everyone leaving US to go to England |
| 05:39.29 | Tierrie | i know US is sucking right now |
| 05:39.33 | Tierrie | but england is not the place to go |
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| 05:39.45 | Tierrie | canada would be nice though |
| 05:40.03 | Cairenn | it is when Oxford accepted your PhD proposal and you landed a TA position with them as well .... |
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| 05:40.35 | Tierrie | hm |
| 05:40.52 | Tierrie | i seem to be recall oxford being extremely traditional if you know what i mean |
| 05:41.22 | Tierrie | anyway thats still nice |
| 05:41.38 | Tierrie | beats sitting at home |
| 05:42.30 | Tierrie | fun thing about having a smartphone is that you get to upgrade it |
| 05:42.38 | Tierrie | in about 30 minutes, my phone will be very very much cooler |
| 05:42.39 | Tierrie | or a brick |
| 05:45.24 | Tem|AFK | Night guys |
| 05:45.58 | Cairenn | night Tem|AFK |
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| 06:24.00 | Chaotic_D | my stomach hurts. I ate too much crap today. |
| 06:24.13 | Tierrie | solution: don't eat feces |
| 06:24.51 | Chaotic_D | "you better watch out, pal! I eat little pieces of shit like you for breakfast!" |
| 06:25.31 | Tierrie | solution: be discreet when consuming breakfast |
| 06:25.50 | Chaotic_D | be discreet about the excrete. |
| 06:25.50 | Tierrie | fatty foods, high carbs, and poop should be out of the question |
| 06:26.54 | Chaotic_D | eh. it's depression. makes it hard to eat right. my breakfast is fine. I don't drink pop. but the rest of the day... I just grab whatever I can most easily stick in my mouth. |
| 06:27.21 | Chaotic_D | today it was corn chips, potato chips and... more cereal. heavy. I'm not surprised my stomach hurts. |
| 06:27.49 | Chaotic_D | I'm skinny now, but it won't last if I don't do something... |
| 06:30.59 | Chaotic_D | I gotta get in the habit of making some vegetable soups. with beans or potatos. cooking rice. |
| 06:46.34 | Tierrie | dude |
| 06:46.36 | Tierrie | you are making me hungry |
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| 06:51.15 | Elyssah | Hello! |
| 06:51.42 | Thunder_Child | brown rice, light on the potatoes |
| 06:52.01 | Thunder_Child | otherwise it's just starch |
| 06:52.19 | Elyssah | huh... he's not here tonight |
| 06:53.17 | Elyssah | anyways, i was hoping someone could direct me to an explination of how to make my own mini-map clicky button for my addon |
| 06:57.11 | Chaotic_D | I don't need to worry about starch. I have a pretty good metabolism. the problem is finding good food that's easy to make. |
| 06:57.33 | Chaotic_D | and then... trying to make sure my life doesn't suck so much that I'm looking for fulfillment in things like food. |
| 06:58.25 | Chaotic_D | I don't know how the hell this happened either. it started a year ago and before that I would always undereat. just a lot appetite. these days my emotions override my appetite. I just can't get an accurate reading. |
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| 07:09.09 | Elyssah | hello norg |
| 07:13.53 | Chaotic_D | god damn these bastards are cruel. they're like "don't use Windows API, here, try this THING." and I can't figure out how to even get it working... |
| 07:18.22 | Cairenn | Elyssah: http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info4686-MyMinimapButton.html |
| 07:18.56 | Cairenn | it's outdated, but may still work, and if not, will at least give you some reference stuff to work with |
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| 07:27.42 | Elyssah | thank you kindly Cairenn |
| 07:28.01 | Cairenn | You're welcome |
| 07:28.15 | Cairenn | the next obvious place to look is on the wiki |
| 07:29.27 | Elyssah | i tried the wiki, i got crap |
| 07:29.39 | Elyssah | however, i dunno if this is what i am looking for either |
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| 07:30.01 | Elyssah | i want to make a lil mini button for my addon, to hide all the frames behind a cute widdle button |
| 07:31.04 | Elyssah | while i am sure this does that... it is sophisticated, while i am not |
| 07:31.15 | Elyssah | lemme see if it blesses me with a tutorial |
| 07:33.19 | Nom- | Anyone know of a way to determine which mod is breaking my tradeskill listing ? |
| 07:33.45 | Nom- | making a screenshot to show you what's happening :) |
| 07:35.47 | Nom- | http://standen.id.au/pics/tradeskill.jpg |
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| 07:39.27 | Chaotic_D | something that changes the strings? like the one that adds the level before the quest in your questlog? |
| 07:40.30 | Nom- | i turned that one off by mistake the other day, and still no go |
| 07:40.44 | Nom- | I've tried various combination of mods, i'll post the mod listing in case something jumps out at someone |
| 07:42.05 | Nom- | http://standen.id.au/mods.txt |
| 07:42.23 | Elyssah | Cairenn.. that addon is too old... it's incompatible |
| 07:45.41 | Nom- | 15:23 <@Cairenn> it's outdated, but may still work, and if not, will at least give you some reference stuff to work with |
| 07:47.51 | Chaotic_D | I don't like the people in ##C++ |
| 07:47.54 | Elyssah | blizzard is saying incompatable.. not out of date.. but i'll give it a try |
| 07:49.05 | Elyssah | it's not loading at all. oh well |
| 07:50.50 | Chaotic_D | I wish I could accomplish things. |
| 07:51.43 | Chaotic_D | I mean more than like once a week. I got my addon working... well.. my modification to an addon. probably the majority of which was code people from here and #wowace practically dropped in my lap. |
| 07:54.18 | Elyssah | i think by the time i'm done with mine, i will feel the same |
| 07:54.45 | Elyssah | all i have right now is 3 frames stacked on each other in one bigger frame, and a working close button |
| 07:54.57 | Elyssah | and i've been working on it for a week now |
| 07:55.07 | Chaotic_D | I never even did that. |
| 07:55.38 | Chaotic_D | I just rummaged through people's code and stuck bits together. |
| 07:56.51 | Chaotic_D | I wonder how many coders had to spend most of their time coding... |
| 07:57.09 | Chaotic_D | it's just such an abstract skill... |
| 07:57.21 | Chaotic_D | it does absolutely nothing by itself. |
| 07:57.46 | Tierrie | close buttons are aweomse |
| 07:58.59 | Chaotic_D | after getting my addon working, I was inspired to try and get my old C++ program working in a modern compiler... and it's just... really depressing. |
| 07:59.14 | Tierrie | heh |
| 07:59.27 | Tierrie | i never thought i'd be too tired to enjoy porn |
| 07:59.28 | Tierrie | but alas |
| 07:59.34 | Tierrie | :( |
| 07:59.35 | Tierrie | signs of aging |
| 08:00.23 | Chaotic_D | the amount of work required. do I really want to be familiar with a compiler so I can know how to install libraries, and then learn libraries... oh, and first re-learn C++... just... mountains of work to get a god damned digital clock to work. a program which I might add I had working perfectly find over 5 years ago in a DOS C++ compiler. |
| 08:00.47 | Chaotic_D | s/find/fine |
| 08:01.22 | Chaotic_D | and now I'm struggling like an AOL user trying to figure out how to turn off the computer... |
| 08:01.45 | Chaotic_D | I feel like such a lazy retard. |
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| 08:03.01 | Elyssah | Hi Tierrie! |
| 08:04.18 | Elyssah | well.. i dug through the wow interface and found the code for the world map minimap button |
| 08:04.55 | Elyssah | now all i gotta do is make it so it is a) moveable, and b) actually launches my addon instead of the worldmap |
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| 08:09.15 | Chaotic_D | hrm... I wonder if it would have been any easier to find that through someone else's addon. |
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| 08:32.56 | Elyssah | oh just lovely |
| 08:33.07 | Elyssah | my button isn't showing >< |
| 08:36.56 | sag_ich_nicht | morning |
| 08:37.02 | Elyssah | hi |
| 08:37.23 | Elyssah | argh... the button is mocking me |
| 08:37.36 | Elyssah | it's saying "you suck, so i'm gonna hide from you" |
| 08:38.19 | Elyssah | O,o the button is taking to me.. >,> it's time for bed... |
| 08:38.27 | Elyssah | nite |
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| 08:51.05 | Chaotic_D | ah, they left. I was going to say... my addon stopped working after I got it working, and I couldn't get it fixed for the longest time. that's really frustrating. |
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| 08:52.24 | Wraanger | heyaz |
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| 09:12.47 | Chaotic_D | goodnight. |
| 09:14.05 | art3mis | http://us.imdb.com/title/tt0457572/ |
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| 09:41.56 | Thunder_Child | lol art3mis |
| 09:47.08 | art3mis | isnt that one the best premises you've seen for a film? |
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| 09:49.04 | Thunder_Child | no |
| 09:50.06 | Thunder_Child | actualy National treasure 2 looked more interesting |
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| 09:55.24 | Tierrie | i didn't like the preview so much |
| 09:55.29 | Tierrie | i liked the batman one though |
| 09:55.32 | art3mis | bad thunder! |
| 09:55.33 | Tierrie | even though it didn't show much |
| 09:55.47 | Thunder_Child | ~lart art3mis |
| 09:55.47 | purl | slaps art3mis upside the head with a wet fish |
| 09:55.49 | art3mis | i bet you didnt think kung pow was hysterical either ;P |
| 09:56.11 | art3mis | if you werent in tears from laughing during the gopher chucks scene there is something wrong with you btw ;P |
| 09:56.31 | Thunder_Child | nope, i was working in a movie theater at the time, it's the only show that i ever saw people walk out of the first showing |
| 09:57.03 | Thunder_Child | i love a good comedy....that wasnt it |
| 09:57.08 | art3mis | lies! |
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| 09:57.27 | art3mis | name a good comedy then |
| 09:57.31 | art3mis | actually name 5 |
| 09:57.46 | art3mis | im using this to judge you btw ;) |
| 09:58.11 | Thunder_Child | spaceballs, naked gun series (3), blazing sadles |
| 09:58.59 | art3mis | okay ill give you 1 and 5 |
| 09:59.08 | art3mis | naked gun 1 was funny 2 and 3 werent as much |
| 09:59.36 | art3mis | instead you should have said kentucky fried movie and airplane ;P |
| 09:59.44 | Thunder_Child | origional pink panther series |
| 09:59.50 | art3mis | speaking of which |
| 09:59.52 | Thunder_Child | airplane yes, kfm no |
| 09:59.53 | Tierrie | oh i love return of the pink panther |
| 09:59.56 | art3mis | im watching that peter sellers movie |
| 10:00.00 | art3mis | kfm no?! |
| 10:00.02 | Tierrie | oooh |
| 10:00.03 | Thunder_Child | no |
| 10:00.07 | Tierrie | this windows mobile 6 is nifty |
| 10:00.07 | art3mis | how?! |
| 10:00.21 | art3mis | how can you like the other zuker movies but not kfm? |
| 10:00.25 | art3mis | zucker |
| 10:00.25 | Thunder_Child | what do you mean how....it doesnt make me laugh....much |
| 10:00.51 | art3mis | amazon women from the moon? |
| 10:01.07 | Thunder_Child | never heard of it |
| 10:01.17 | art3mis | history of the world part 1? |
| 10:01.19 | Thunder_Child | my fav of all time is "My Fellow Americans" |
| 10:01.24 | Thunder_Child | didnt like that one |
| 10:01.28 | Thunder_Child | to slow |
| 10:01.32 | art3mis | Dr.Strangelove? |
| 10:01.37 | Thunder_Child | havent seen it |
| 10:01.40 | art3mis | what!? |
| 10:01.44 | art3mis | go rent that now |
| 10:01.54 | art3mis | how old are you? |
| 10:01.59 | Thunder_Child | 25 |
| 10:02.09 | art3mis | hrm and you've never seen dr strange love? |
| 10:02.23 | art3mis | aka How I learned to love the bomb"? |
| 10:02.23 | Thunder_Child | i havent seen casablanca...you should hear the crap i get for that |
| 10:02.39 | Thunder_Child | again..no |
| 10:02.40 | art3mis | casabalnca while a cinematic milestone is a crap movie though ;P |
| 10:02.50 | art3mis | go rent it |
| 10:02.57 | art3mis | i promise you wont be disappointed in it |
| 10:03.15 | Thunder_Child | you just called it a crap movie |
| 10:03.45 | art3mis | no i meant dr strangelove |
| 10:03.47 | art3mis | not casa |
| 10:03.54 | art3mis | http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0057012/ |
| 10:04.11 | art3mis | attack of the killer tomatos? |
| 10:04.14 | Thunder_Child | Short Circuit |
| 10:04.21 | Thunder_Child | havent seen tomatos |
| 10:04.26 | art3mis | wow |
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| 11:21.25 | bleeter | Wobin, Nom- et al .au http://www.chaser.com.au/content/view/3441/228/ |
| 11:40.53 | Wobin | heheh |
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| 11:41.57 | Wobin | Very TheOnionish |
| 11:47.38 | bleeter | Wobin: chaser did they in one of their annuals that they were a cheap onion ripoff |
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| 12:24.21 | Maldivia | hmm... |
| 12:28.42 | Maldivia | anyone here happens to have a mpq tool, that can extract from the patch.exe files? Just found out that all localizations seems to be included, and could be nice to be able to extract the globalstrings file directly, instead of bothering others to get it for me :) |
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| 13:17.21 | Cidan | I hate it when people get tattoos in Chinese |
| 13:17.47 | Gnarfoz | what about chinese people? |
| 13:17.56 | Cidan | one time my girl and I were at wal-mart and there was this big buff guy, huge, fucking massive. On his arm he had a tattoo in chinese |
| 13:18.24 | Cidan | my girlfriend (she's chinese) said that he was trying to say "flaming tiger" |
| 13:18.36 | Cidan | but what it really said was closer to "a kitten on fire" |
| 13:18.47 | sag_ich_nicht | lol |
| 13:18.57 | sag_ich_nicht | did you tell him? |
| 13:19.01 | Cidan | fuck no |
| 13:19.01 | sag_ich_nicht | please tell me that you told him |
| 13:19.03 | Cidan | haha |
| 13:19.25 | sag_ich_nicht | fail |
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| 13:50.59 | Cidan | Why does it seem everyone who plays wow is like, 12? |
| 13:51.19 | sag_ich_nicht | because this is, in fact, true |
| 13:51.20 | amro | because everyone who plays wow is like, 12 |
| 13:51.29 | sag_ich_nicht | what you see on the forums, is only a fraction of the player count |
| 13:51.37 | Cidan | It's so hard to find a group of adults to play with. |
| 13:51.40 | Cidan | I hate it. |
| 13:52.39 | nevcairiel | cheer for voice chat for every pug. |
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| 13:59.47 | sag_ich_nicht | voicechat will cut down the noobcurve quite a bit |
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| 14:00.24 | [dRaCo] | why? |
| 14:01.29 | Neebler | more leadership and communication |
| 14:05.05 | Cidan | voice chat will make me want to cry as everyone will sould like Slippy from Starfox 64 |
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| 14:13.33 | Industrial | How do i go beyond 150 cooking? |
| 14:14.03 | [dRaCo] | uhm... dunno, is that already that quest in tanaris? |
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| 14:15.14 | Industrial | http://www.wowhead.com/?item=16072 |
| 14:15.16 | Industrial | apparently |
| 14:17.13 | sag_ich_nicht | [16:05] <Cidan> voice chat will make me want to cry as everyone will sould like Slippy from Starfox 64 <--lol |
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| 14:18.43 | Wraanger | heyaz |
| 14:19.00 | Industrial | How will voice work? like normal chat - everyone around you hears you? |
| 14:19.04 | Industrial | or only party/raid/etc |
| 14:19.25 | [dRaCo] | party, raid, guild afaik |
| 14:19.26 | Cidan | party raid etc |
| 14:19.26 | JoshBorke | party/raid/etc |
| 14:19.31 | Cidan | not guild |
| 14:19.34 | [dRaCo] | not? |
| 14:19.38 | Cidan | nope |
| 14:19.45 | [dRaCo] | :/ |
| 14:19.55 | [dRaCo] | well, I wont use it anyway, so... |
| 14:20.29 | Cidan | right, nor will a lot of others |
| 14:20.35 | Cidan | they don't want people to feel left out |
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| 14:42.14 | Rallion | If you find that everybody sounds like slippy, all you can do about it is make a character named "Fooooox" and wait for them to ask you for help. |
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| 14:42.53 | Cidan | lol |
| 14:42.54 | Cidan | hahah |
| 14:42.55 | Cidan | :D |
| 14:43.04 | Cidan | I had this one kid on my raid team |
| 14:43.31 | Cidan | Sounded JUST like him, like I swear -- it was the same voice actor. lol |
| 14:45.48 | nevcairiel | lol |
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| 15:23.27 | zenzelezz | why does the ace updater thing keep adding itself to my start menu every time I run it (well, only twice so far, but still) |
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| 15:27.11 | MoonWolf | Hmm, anyone know of a searchable note addon ? |
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| 15:28.40 | Cidan | NotesUNeed |
| 15:28.42 | Cidan | is good |
| 15:28.55 | Cidan | I use it |
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| 15:31.35 | Industrial | MoonWolf: you'd really want some kind of ingame wiki, with pages linkable to items/tooltips/players/locations/etc :3 |
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| 15:33.55 | alestane | Can anyone explain what the actual first return of GetShapeShiftFormInfo is? is it just a texture, or is it more complex information? |
| 15:34.20 | MoonWolf | Industrial, i only really wan't to be able to look up notes i made on mobs etc |
| 15:34.28 | MoonWolf | ingame wiki is screaming MEMORY USE. |
| 15:37.26 | Cide | not really |
| 15:37.42 | Cide | depends on how you implement it |
| 15:37.57 | Cide | but look at, say, LightHeaded |
| 15:41.25 | alestane | Looks from the code like it's probably just a straight texture path. Wiki needs updating, it's not very clear about that. Now I just need to dig up the asset paths for the shapeshift icons. |
| 15:41.59 | Cide | then update it :) |
| 15:42.17 | alestane | I may. |
| 15:46.09 | alestane | Okay, one more...is there a language-independent query for a character's class? Other than iterating through spell textures that you know are exclusive to taht class? |
| 15:46.20 | Cide | second return of UnitClass |
| 15:46.51 | alestane | OH COOL! |
| 15:47.54 | alestane | Gotta go though, company here. |
| 15:48.03 | alestane | Thanks again! |
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| 16:01.38 | Cide | hmm, how much memory does vista use? |
| 16:01.44 | [dRaCo] | too much |
| 16:01.49 | Cide | don't be stupid |
| 16:02.15 | [dRaCo] | well, tbh, I dont know. |
| 16:02.24 | Cide | then don't reply next time |
| 16:02.34 | Cide | if the alternative is to reply stupidly :P |
| 16:03.05 | [dRaCo] | but I'm bored :/ |
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| 16:04.34 | [dRaCo] | friend of mine had ~512 MB on a more or less clean install |
| 16:05.21 | [dRaCo] | other ppl report something like 330 MB |
| 16:06.55 | [dRaCo] | that's for the 32 bit version, 64 bit uses a lot more, it seems |
| 16:08.38 | bl4q | Cide: afaik, vista uses about 512mb of memory when idleing... but that's just what I've read some weeks ago |
| 16:09.27 | zenzelezz | I imagine 64-bit uses 64-bit variables mostly, would make sense to use some more memory |
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| 16:09.40 | sag_ich_nicht | bl4q my windows xp does the same |
| 16:09.41 | sag_ich_nicht | lol drivers |
| 16:10.21 | [dRaCo] | sure, zenzelezz, but since both versions are out there, I thought I might point out that those are 32 bit values. |
| 16:12.00 | bl4q | sag_ich_nicht: If I substract firefox my XP is running @ about 200mb of memory |
| 16:13.01 | zenzelezz | my XP also uses about 200ish on its own |
| 16:14.43 | sag_ich_nicht | you don't have crazy drivers, tho. |
| 16:15.43 | bl4q | what kind of messed up drivers do you have to use? :< |
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| 16:18.24 | sag_ich_nicht | well |
| 16:18.27 | sag_ich_nicht | it not as much drivers |
| 16:19.08 | sag_ich_nicht | as it is services that i am too lazy not to disable because if i disable them, i have to reenable them once i need that functionality once in a while, and i am lazy and have ton of ram, so meh :O |
| 16:19.27 | sag_ich_nicht | also, vista is coded to use all of the available RAM with prefetch data anyway ~_~ |
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| 16:49.19 | Cidan | man, I get so upset at those stories when people leave <shopping place> and refuse to show their reciept, then the clerk thinks they have some right to check the belongings/detain said person |
| 16:50.55 | sag_ich_nicht | lol |
| 16:51.39 | sag_ich_nicht | actually, if they suspect a theft they can detain that person, if they call the police |
| 16:51.55 | zenzelezz | depends on the laws in your country |
| 16:52.03 | sag_ich_nicht | otherwise i could just walk into a store, take something and leave and you couldn't do shit about it |
| 16:52.07 | sag_ich_nicht | same for banks |
| 16:52.14 | sag_ich_nicht | etc, |
| 16:52.15 | sag_ich_nicht | *etc. |
| 16:52.22 | sag_ich_nicht | but they can't check their belongings |
| 16:52.30 | Cidan | Refusal to show a reciept has been shown time and time again not enough to warrent detainment |
| 16:52.43 | sag_ich_nicht | no, but suspected theft :O |
| 16:52.51 | Cidan | which is in turn detainment |
| 16:52.54 | Cidan | and it isn't. |
| 16:52.58 | sag_ich_nicht | okay |
| 16:53.07 | sag_ich_nicht | so i can just steal your wallet |
| 16:53.09 | Cidan | Trust me on this -- worked in a law firm for three years. |
| 16:53.13 | sag_ich_nicht | and you won't stop me when i run away? |
| 16:53.18 | sag_ich_nicht | because this is what you are saying |
| 16:53.22 | Cidan | No |
| 16:53.27 | Cidan | Listen for once |
| 16:53.31 | sag_ich_nicht | yes, you are, if you don't notice that i take said wallet |
| 16:53.38 | Cidan | No, LISTEN damn you. |
| 16:53.54 | sag_ich_nicht | i am. |
| 16:53.58 | sag_ich_nicht | you do not make sense to me |
| 16:54.19 | Cidan | If I go into a store, and buy something, then I leave; I do not have to show you proof on a whim of what I carry. |
| 16:54.55 | sag_ich_nicht | how is a clerk supposed to act when he suspects a theft happened and that thief is you then |
| 16:54.56 | Cidan | If I go into a store, and I'm observed hiding something |
| 16:55.00 | Cidan | that is suspected theft |
| 16:55.44 | Cidan | ie: I put something in a back pack |
| 16:55.44 | Cidan | but I have to be OBSERVED |
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| 16:55.49 | Cidan | The reason is -- why would they suspect? |
| 16:55.53 | sag_ich_nicht | in b4 i get to the point where the clerk can lie and you can never prove otherwise, making your point moot |
| 16:55.57 | Cidan | They would either have to observe something |
| 16:55.59 | Cidan | Right? |
| 16:56.04 | Cidan | They would have to see you put something in your bag |
| 16:56.07 | Cidan | THAT is fine |
| 16:56.23 | sag_ich_nicht | the point where the clerk can lie and you can never prove otherwise, making your point moot |
| 16:56.31 | zenzelezz | this is the Intarweb Cidan, everyone is a lawyer with 100 years experience |
| 16:56.33 | sag_ich_nicht | in after i got to that point |
| 16:56.33 | sag_ich_nicht | :O |
| 16:56.35 | Cidan | I hate you so much sometimes. |
| 16:56.38 | Cidan | I really do. |
| 16:56.42 | zenzelezz | everyone does |
| 16:56.47 | sag_ich_nicht | he means me |
| 16:56.49 | sag_ich_nicht | not you zenzelezz |
| 16:56.52 | zenzelezz | I know sag |
| 16:56.52 | Cidan | It's like your head is made of bricks. |
| 16:57.09 | Cidan | Back to healing, bleh. |
| 16:57.09 | sag_ich_nicht | it's like you're the perfect trolling victim |
| 16:57.41 | sag_ich_nicht | btw. cidan how will the font system of conspiracy work? |
| 16:57.48 | Cidan | I hope you die. |
| 16:57.50 | Cidan | That's how it will work |
| 16:57.59 | Cidan | In a fire, a blazing fire of death and hate. |
| 16:58.08 | sag_ich_nicht | wow |
| 16:58.29 | sag_ich_nicht | that's some strong emotion right there |
| 16:58.33 | [dRaCo] | hydross' damage can crit, cant it? |
| 16:58.47 | zenzelezz | yes |
| 16:58.49 | sag_ich_nicht | have you talked to a professional about your violence fantasies, Cidan? |
| 16:58.54 | sag_ich_nicht | *violent |
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| 17:00.13 | [dRaCo] | zenzelezz: got a link stating that? |
| 17:00.41 | zenzelezz | no, but I've tanked him |
| 17:00.52 | [dRaCo] | k, thanks. |
| 17:01.20 | [dRaCo] | well, another thing: do you think it's worth going for 490 def? |
| 17:01.29 | zenzelezz | unless you cap out resistance, yes |
| 17:01.44 | [dRaCo] | thanks again |
| 17:02.07 | zenzelezz | you can still get a very unlucky huge crit in max resistance, but mostly you'll mitigate it then. My healers prefer me uncrittable even if I take more damage usually |
| 17:02.46 | [dRaCo] | i'll just have "my" tanks uncrittable, then :) |
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| 17:05.41 | Cide | resistance > def though |
| 17:05.57 | Cide | unlucky resists are worse and more common than crits |
| 17:05.59 | Laric | is it possible to become uncrittable? |
| 17:06.07 | Cide | if you're not at maximum defence |
| 17:06.20 | zenzelezz | Laric: against mobs, yes |
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| 17:06.31 | zenzelezz | quite easy for tanks |
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| 17:06.35 | [dRaCo] | laric: sure... "normal" players need 490 def skill (not rating) to be uncrittable |
| 17:06.44 | [dRaCo] | against lvl 73, that is |
| 17:07.01 | [dRaCo] | druids need... 430, iirc, due to that one talent |
| 17:07.21 | Laric | k |
| 17:07.30 | zenzelezz | <Cide> unlucky resists are worse and more common than crits <-- when I had >365 FrR I got one 13k-ish crit, and a ton of 6k-ish ones |
| 17:07.46 | zenzelezz | the unlucky one was a freak accident it seemed |
| 17:07.46 | [dRaCo] | 13k? nasty :/ |
| 17:07.48 | Cide | yeah |
| 17:07.53 | zenzelezz | basically unresisted |
| 17:07.59 | Cide | (you don't want more than 365 FrR btw) |
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| 17:08.12 | Cide | but if you're sitting at 300 FrR you'll get more 0% resists |
| 17:08.15 | Cide | or low% resists |
| 17:08.20 | [dRaCo] | my tanks are currently aiming for something like 300 |
| 17:09.01 | zenzelezz | Cide: I know 365 is the cap, but hitting it *exactly* is hard ;) I wasn't far above |
| 17:09.16 | Cide | ah |
| 17:10.40 | zenzelezz | [dRaCo]: our Hydross MTs only use the three epic pieces (possibly some other items that don't affect your defense rating, like trinkets), only offtanks aim for pure resistance |
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| 17:11.49 | [dRaCo] | how much resistance do these 3 pieces give them? |
| 17:12.44 | zenzelezz | 50, 60, 60... so 170 before aura. Then there's the +20 on head from rep, +10 on legs from Argent Dawn/Zul'Gurub if you want |
| 17:14.22 | zenzelezz | make sure you shout at your melee if they clump up during frost phase |
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| 17:36.13 | [dRaCo] | *shouts at himself not to clump up during the frost phase* |
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| 18:10.54 | Shirik | huh... |
| 18:11.00 | Shirik | my irc client has a tip of the day... todays: |
| 18:11.03 | Shirik | - tip: World of Warcraft quick search: /thott (thottbot.com), /allak (wow.allakhazam.com), /wh (wowhead.com) |
| 18:11.12 | Shirik | didn't know it did that :/ |
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| 18:26.07 | Thunder_Child | ~lart Shirik |
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| 18:27.31 | zenzelezz | ouch |
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| 18:35.00 | Shirik | DickJustice: hi? |
| 18:38.19 | DickJustice | hi |
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| 18:43.36 | Industrial | Anyone playing on EU / Shattered Halls / Alliance? :3 |
| 18:43.53 | [dRaCo] | no |
| 18:50.17 | Industrial | you are someone not anyone |
| 18:50.43 | zenzelezz | if you somehow misspelled Silvermoon as Shattered Halls... |
| 18:51.38 | [dRaCo] | Industrial: yeah, but I figured that getting no answer at all is totally frustrating and thought I'll show you your comment didnt get lost in digital nirvana |
| 18:53.36 | Thunder_Child | s/nirvana/noise/ |
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| 19:11.24 | ScytheBlade1 | Is it just me, or is ag_UF mostly dead? |
| 19:11.41 | nevcairiel | the branch version is working fine |
| 19:11.55 | nevcairiel | whats there to be more alive ? :) |
| 19:11.59 | ScytheBlade1 | Yeah, but there's no active dev on it |
| 19:12.04 | ScytheBlade1 | And I've got a bug report :( |
| 19:14.37 | ScytheBlade1 | Mostly I don't want to switch to Pitbull... contains a lot more than I would ever want or care for |
| 19:15.07 | Industrial | you can disable most of it |
| 19:15.28 | Industrial | but yes, why the hell does it have to have 20 (arbitrary number) modules packed with it? |
| 19:15.36 | ScytheBlade1 | Lot of crap to disable when all I want is a green and blue bar. |
| 19:15.49 | ScytheBlade1 | Maybe a casting bar at times |
| 19:15.52 | ScytheBlade1 | And a focus frame. |
| 19:15.56 | ScytheBlade1 | That's it. That's really it. |
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| 19:24.43 | [dRaCo] | if you disable them, they dont use any memory, so why not? |
| 19:30.29 | amro_ | laziness |
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| 19:35.48 | ckknight | ScytheBlade1, yea, just disable what you don't want |
| 19:36.33 | ScytheBlade1 | ckknight, that's what, 40 parts to disable though? |
| 19:37.23 | ckknight | there's a relatively easy menu for disabling modules |
| 19:37.39 | ScytheBlade1 | Still a metric ton of modules on by default though |
| 19:38.10 | ScytheBlade1 | Meh, it's been a while (month or two) since I last tried it and ultimately switched back to ag_UF |
| 19:38.14 | ScytheBlade1 | Why not at least try |
| 19:39.10 | ScytheBlade1 | Holy crap @ 2.7MB uncompressed |
| 19:39.26 | zenzelezz | http://www.hovlandsdal.com:7080/~zenzelezz/morogrim.jpg -- I never find unit frames I like, so I stick to HP/mana bars like these |
| 19:40.00 | ScytheBlade1 | Good crap that's a lot of clutter. |
| 19:40.10 | Thunder_Child | heh, i think WAU is off, it's saying i am using 20mb of bandwidth |
| 19:40.14 | zenzelezz | yes, I've been meaning to fix it "one of these days" |
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| 19:42.52 | AnduinLothar | it doesn't look super cluttered. |
| 19:43.06 | AnduinLothar | the only reason you call it cluttered is the overlap |
| 19:43.07 | zenzelezz | but could be cleaner |
| 19:43.11 | Thunder_Child | cluttered enough |
| 19:43.19 | ScytheBlade1 | Sec as mine uploads |
| 19:43.37 | ScytheBlade1 | .... come on now.. |
| 19:43.40 | AnduinLothar | just make omen smaller and move sct's output a bit |
| 19:43.41 | zenzelezz | working on a more minimalist version, but I'm lazy =D |
| 19:43.44 | ScytheBlade1 | http://img504.imageshack.us/my.php?image=sbouibt3.jpg |
| 19:43.59 | AnduinLothar | that's not in a raid tho |
| 19:44.03 | Thunder_Child | bah @ minimalist |
| 19:44.11 | ScytheBlade1 | I'm looking for my raid UI |
| 19:44.13 | ScytheBlade1 | I've got one around here |
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| 19:44.59 | AnduinLothar | you could easily replace those MT targets with ora2's which are a bit cleaner |
| 19:45.05 | zenzelezz | I could actually decrease the size of the font for MSBT too, and going to remove all the default UI unit frames, get smaller actionbars... but keep putting it off till "tomorrow" ;) |
| 19:45.14 | AnduinLothar | maybe horazontal above your chat frame |
| 19:45.15 | ScytheBlade1 | Uploading.. |
| 19:45.18 | zenzelezz | AnduinLothar: afraid not, my guild uses a gay DKP addon to CTRA |
| 19:45.29 | Kaydeethree | >>>380+266 |
| 19:45.29 | Cide- | Kaydeethree: 646 |
| 19:45.31 | AnduinLothar | you can still run ctra int he bg |
| 19:45.34 | Thunder_Child | http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1262/816735145_d7a3c4b13d_b.jpg the difference between that and raid?...list of names on the left side...thats it |
| 19:45.36 | zenzelezz | so I'm stuck on 1.6xxx |
| 19:45.41 | AnduinLothar | you dont need it's visual compenents on |
| 19:45.49 | ScytheBlade1 | http://img407.imageshack.us/my.php?image=sbouiraideu6.jpg <-- me in a raid |
| 19:46.01 | zenzelezz | AnduinLothar: hm... you actually make a good point. oRA won't interfere if CTRA is also running? |
| 19:46.05 | AnduinLothar | I'ma clicker, i need my action bars visible |
| 19:46.09 | ScytheBlade1 | I've since removed the bars on the left side of my screen completly and replaced it with grid |
| 19:46.17 | AnduinLothar | shouldn't zenzelezz |
| 19:46.21 | ScytheBlade1 | And CTRA MT, too |
| 19:46.23 | zenzelezz | cheers, I might try that |
| 19:46.39 | zenzelezz | I need some MT list so I see what the other tanks are hitting =) |
| 19:46.49 | AnduinLothar | you can use whatever unit frames you want with ctra active int he bg |
| 19:47.28 | AnduinLothar | you might have to disable some other ora2 features |
| 19:47.35 | zenzelezz | that I can handle |
| 19:47.40 | AnduinLothar | since they both do things like votes |
| 19:47.48 | AnduinLothar | and rdy checks |
| 19:47.52 | zenzelezz | sounds worth trying, the CTRA MT list never appealed to me apart from the function |
| 19:48.02 | AnduinLothar | and actually |
| 19:48.13 | AnduinLothar | the default ui does target of raid member |
| 19:48.23 | AnduinLothar | i forget if there's a tanks window tho |
| 19:48.26 | AnduinLothar | should be |
| 19:48.39 | AnduinLothar | you can right click the members to show their target |
| 19:48.40 | zenzelezz | I'd have to teach my guild to use the default UI MT feature, too much work ;) |
| 19:48.47 | AnduinLothar | ah, yeah |
| 19:48.49 | ScytheBlade1 | I'd prefer if we used that |
| 19:48.54 | ScytheBlade1 | Simply so I could run less addons ;P |
| 19:48.54 | zenzelezz | me too |
| 19:49.03 | AnduinLothar | i think ora actually toggles both |
| 19:49.07 | AnduinLothar | but i'm nto sure |
| 19:49.11 | AnduinLothar | maybe not |
| 19:49.15 | AnduinLothar | should imo |
| 19:49.18 | zenzelezz | I know some addons do |
| 19:49.30 | AnduinLothar | i have so many addons sometimes i forget what does what |
| 19:50.05 | AnduinLothar | here's cluttered: http://www.karlkfi.com/WoW/RaidWoWUI.jpg |
| 19:50.07 | zenzelezz | is the default UI alone making the Raid tab on the Social window not show in combat, or is that some addon tainting? |
| 19:50.21 | AnduinLothar | not sure |
| 19:50.25 | AnduinLothar | mine does thta too |
| 19:50.32 | ScytheBlade1 | That'd be CTRA |
| 19:50.39 | AnduinLothar | i dont run ctra |
| 19:50.49 | ScytheBlade1 | Well, CTRA does it for sure |
| 19:51.36 | AnduinLothar | my screens a bit wider than either of yours tho, so i can fit more on and still ahve a window |
| 19:51.59 | AnduinLothar | but your a mage. you dont count |
| 19:52.07 | AnduinLothar | you don't even need the raid frames |
| 19:52.10 | zenzelezz | yeah, a bigger screen would help for me, but I don't mind. A little clean up and it'll be good |
| 19:52.17 | ScytheBlade1 | I have grid :P |
| 19:52.23 | ScytheBlade1 | I don't in that screenshot, but I do now |
| 19:52.30 | AnduinLothar | I have to have enough on my screen so i can off heal if needed |
| 19:52.40 | AnduinLothar | and not pull agro dpsing |
| 19:52.48 | AnduinLothar | and not attack before the tank does |
| 19:53.08 | AnduinLothar | and click my zillion buttons. and rebuff every 5/15 mins |
| 19:53.29 | Josh_Borke | aren't paladings getting 30/60 buffs in 2.2? |
| 19:53.35 | AnduinLothar | yes |
| 19:53.38 | AnduinLothar | no |
| 19:53.40 | AnduinLothar | 15/30 |
| 19:53.43 | AnduinLothar | er |
| 19:53.44 | Josh_Borke | quit your bitching then :-P |
| 19:53.45 | AnduinLothar | 10/30 ? |
| 19:53.47 | Josh_Borke | whatever |
| 19:53.51 | Josh_Borke | i think 15/30 |
| 19:53.51 | AnduinLothar | it's not 60 |
| 19:54.14 | ScytheBlade1 | 15/30 |
| 19:54.27 | AnduinLothar | I've actually changed a bit since that ss |
| 19:54.35 | AnduinLothar | http://72.211.209.199:82/blog/WoW/CombatWoWUI.jpg |
| 19:54.38 | ScytheBlade1 | Okay, this has always bugged me, but I've gotta ask. |
| 19:54.41 | AnduinLothar | new minimap and buffs |
| 19:54.56 | AnduinLothar | and swing timers |
| 19:55.08 | ScytheBlade1 | When moving windows on screen, pixel by pixel or so, why is it that the window simply stops moving until you move your mouse a lot? Is there any way to disable that, and force it to move pixel by pixel? |
| 19:55.16 | AnduinLothar | i keep having to move Omen and DM tho... |
| 19:55.18 | Josh_Borke | wow that's crowded |
| 19:56.04 | AnduinLothar | the OnDrag doesn't trigger till like 10 pixals |
| 19:56.17 | AnduinLothar | so you have to use a more complicated OnMouseDown |
| 19:56.28 | ScytheBlade1 | That is bloody annoying |
| 19:56.35 | AnduinLothar | or compensate like i do on TellTrack |
| 19:56.55 | ScytheBlade1 | That makes sense, but that isn't fixing EVERY OTHER ADDON THAT I HAVE |
| 19:57.01 | AnduinLothar | it's so OnDrag doesn't register OnClick |
| 19:57.25 | ScytheBlade1 | wtb a way to disable that |
| 19:57.29 | AnduinLothar | right, well it takes programmer knowledge |
| 19:57.34 | AnduinLothar | and most are too lazy |
| 19:57.49 | ScytheBlade1 | Doesn't make aligning windows any easier though :P |
| 19:57.55 | AnduinLothar | I mean, I could make a lib for it, but no one would use it |
| 19:58.15 | art3mis | nudgelib ;P |
| 19:58.25 | AnduinLothar | nah, that's not for dragging |
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| 19:58.35 | ScytheBlade1 | That would be better implimented as a core UI feature in all truth |
| 19:58.44 | AnduinLothar | slouken refused |
| 19:58.44 | Josh_Borke | AnduinLothar: pastey your movement code |
| 19:58.46 | ScytheBlade1 | "Toggle OnDrag Sensitivity" only made pretty for end users |
| 19:58.56 | AnduinLothar | it's not feasable |
| 19:59.07 | art3mis | you cant relaly move the core ui objects anyways |
| 19:59.13 | AnduinLothar | you have to make the script events more complex |
| 19:59.23 | ScytheBlade1 | It wouldn't be something you leave on |
| 19:59.34 | ScytheBlade1 | When it's on, disable OnClick for all I care :P |
| 19:59.46 | Josh_Borke | AnduinLothar: what's the SYPRGWEGccl in the left han dside? |
| 19:59.48 | AnduinLothar | which do you want josh, i've made a couple diff types. like a compensating one or one that skips the lag using onmousedown |
| 19:59.50 | ScytheBlade1 | I just need a way to align ten odd windows along the same X coord. Which is not easy. |
| 20:00.04 | Josh_Borke | compensating |
| 20:00.08 | AnduinLothar | SYPRGWEGccl? |
| 20:00.14 | AnduinLothar | ChatBar? |
| 20:00.16 | Josh_Borke | yea, it's a butch of ronud buttons |
| 20:00.34 | Josh_Borke | man i can't type on this big ass keyboard |
| 20:00.36 | AnduinLothar | http://www.curse.com/downloads/details/2073/ |
| 20:01.12 | AnduinLothar | decursive's hiding under the chat frame too |
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| 20:02.39 | AnduinLothar | http://wowi.pastey.net/73302 |
| 20:03.17 | ScytheBlade1 | I guess the real problem is that OnDragStop is being triggered too early. |
| 20:03.55 | AnduinLothar | you still have the lag before it starts moving, but when OnDragStart hits it compensates to move the frame to under the cursor where it was when you OnMouseDown'd |
| 20:03.56 | ScytheBlade1 | If I've moved the window 10px, as long as I'm holding the button down, imo it should keep dragging regardless of how many pixels/sec it's moving across |
| 20:04.35 | AnduinLothar | I have different code that actually does the drag OnMouseDown so there's no lag |
| 20:04.54 | AnduinLothar | but obviously then you can't do anything else onMouseDown or OnClick without flags |
| 20:05.24 | AnduinLothar | so any time you click it triggers StartMoving() |
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| 20:05.35 | AnduinLothar | so it's easy to accidently move |
| 20:05.53 | AnduinLothar | and you can't cancel your click by dragging off the frame like you can with OnClick |
| 20:06.25 | ScytheBlade1 | Hmm |
| 20:06.27 | [dRaCo] | couldnt you add a lock to the frame and do something else onClick when locked? |
| 20:06.36 | ScytheBlade1 | What's the function that gets the name of the frame that the mouse is currently oveR? |
| 20:06.38 | ScytheBlade1 | *over? |
| 20:06.44 | AnduinLothar | GetMouseFocus |
| 20:06.52 | foxlit | GetMouseFocus():GetName() |
| 20:07.47 | AnduinLothar | what you can do is require shift to be held down to init drag onmousedown |
| 20:08.06 | AnduinLothar | obviously that ocludes using shift combos onclick |
| 20:08.38 | AnduinLothar | funny how i caught that pic right after gc and all the buttons are sparkley |
| 20:09.36 | AnduinLothar | oh and i hate how the buffs in Sbo's screen overlap the frame |
| 20:09.44 | ScytheBlade1 | Which screenshot? |
| 20:09.45 | AnduinLothar | cause i have to show like 5 |
| 20:09.50 | AnduinLothar | http://img407.imageshack.us/img407/9798/sbouiraideu6.jpg |
| 20:09.57 | AnduinLothar | AI on the raid frames |
| 20:10.05 | ScytheBlade1 | Oh that |
| 20:10.07 | ScytheBlade1 | That's gone |
| 20:10.24 | ScytheBlade1 | I removed that entire side bar, replaced it with grid in the bottom left above the chat |
| 20:10.35 | AnduinLothar | I kinda like how praid does it, but i wish there were an option for icons instead of abreviations |
| 20:10.44 | ScytheBlade1 | Got tired of switching ag_UF config just to accomodate my AI groups to buff |
| 20:11.23 | AnduinLothar | and i prefer chat background alpha, makes it easier to read, tho also takes up space |
| 20:11.24 | art3mis | are they using hellraiser boxes? |
| 20:11.41 | ScytheBlade1 | I have mouseover alpha |
| 20:11.46 | ScytheBlade1 | Not generally a problem |
| 20:11.47 | AnduinLothar | ah |
| 20:12.09 | ScytheBlade1 | Is IsMoving() valid for frames? |
| 20:12.13 | AnduinLothar | I should do mouseover alppha on my whipser frame |
| 20:12.29 | AnduinLothar | IsMovingOrSizing i think |
| 20:12.40 | art3mis | ya knjow what im confused about? |
| 20:12.41 | Josh_Borke | AnduinLothar: nifty |
| 20:12.50 | art3mis | why more addons dont use min/max |
| 20:12.52 | ScytheBlade1 | Hmm, nope |
| 20:12.59 | AnduinLothar | min/max for what? |
| 20:13.10 | art3mis | so you can have the title bars showing and then click the "max" button to display |
| 20:13.15 | art3mis | like mac windows |
| 20:13.22 | art3mis | or nix windows |
| 20:13.24 | AnduinLothar | ah |
| 20:13.42 | AnduinLothar | cause everyone is used to windows |
| 20:13.49 | art3mis | oh i suppose thats true |
| 20:13.57 | art3mis | would be a great feature for most addons though |
| 20:14.01 | AnduinLothar | and actually mac doesn't do that any more |
| 20:14.08 | AnduinLothar | unless you have WindowShades |
| 20:14.13 | art3mis | i havent touched a mac in a good 3 years |
| 20:14.16 | AnduinLothar | that was an os 9 feature |
| 20:14.50 | art3mis | i like clads scroll fade on light headed wjhen its attached to the quest frame |
| 20:14.53 | AnduinLothar | WindowShadesX is hawt |
| 20:15.00 | AnduinLothar | shareware i actually paid for |
| 20:15.16 | art3mis | if there was an addon that did that for addon display that would be great |
| 20:15.20 | zenzelezz | "Ras Frostwhisper's Frost Armor Chilled effect is now properly classified as a snare mechanic." -- I find it weird how they fix things like this now |
| 20:15.26 | AnduinLothar | has like half a dozen ways to minimize windows |
| 20:15.41 | art3mis | one bar in the top click it scrolls out, move the mouse down to the addon and click it and it displays etc |
| 20:16.32 | ScytheBlade1 | /run if(_IsMoving ~= 1) then GetMouseFocus():StartMoving(); _IsMoving=1;else GetMouseFocus():StopMovingOrSizing();_IsMoving=nil; end |
| 20:16.34 | ScytheBlade1 | That macro is OP |
| 20:17.09 | art3mis | i need to get around to setting up my yata sets |
| 20:17.25 | ScytheBlade1 | It's like MoveAnything in 132 characters :P |
| 20:17.26 | art3mis | or figure a way to one button stack the totem drops |
| 20:17.27 | AnduinLothar | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:17.38 | AnduinLothar | oh |
| 20:17.40 | art3mis | multiple pushes of course |
| 20:17.50 | AnduinLothar | except not rly Scyth |
| 20:18.06 | art3mis | moveanything+maff == hot |
| 20:18.08 | AnduinLothar | cause there are only like half a dozen frames that will work on |
| 20:18.15 | art3mis | kc_mobility is pretty groovy too |
| 20:18.27 | art3mis | so simple it makes me giggle |
| 20:18.28 | ScytheBlade1 | What wouldn't it work on? |
| 20:18.33 | ScytheBlade1 | It's working on everything on my UI, heh |
| 20:18.39 | AnduinLothar | 90% of frames are repositioned |
| 20:18.49 | AnduinLothar | reloadui and you're broken |
| 20:18.51 | art3mis | the map? anything thats made of multiple frames |
| 20:19.00 | ScytheBlade1 | Oh right, the not movable frames |
| 20:19.02 | ScytheBlade1 | And that :P |
| 20:19.03 | AnduinLothar | or anything that the top frame isn't the parent |
| 20:19.20 | art3mis | jsut get kc_mobility ;P |
| 20:19.21 | AnduinLothar | or anything like bags that get recycled |
| 20:19.28 | AnduinLothar | FluidFrames imo |
| 20:19.31 | art3mis | shit-control-alt move |
| 20:19.46 | Cidan | plus you could move a child frame by accident |
| 20:19.49 | art3mis | not that there are any frames i cant move at present |
| 20:19.50 | Cidan | and not the parent frame |
| 20:20.05 | art3mis | oh cept my mining icon |
| 20:20.08 | Cidan | ie: move the window, but not the title bar |
| 20:20.09 | art3mis | err minerals |
| 20:20.23 | art3mis | cid stop talking and go finsih conspiracy ;P |
| 20:20.28 | Cidan | shh |
| 20:20.34 | Cidan | working on it as we speak |
| 20:20.39 | art3mis | heh we were talking about you last night in wa ;P |
| 20:20.44 | AnduinLothar | minerals? |
| 20:20.44 | Cidan | I have this neat idea for windows, I think you'll all love it |
| 20:20.54 | art3mis | yeah the find minerals button |
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| 20:21.04 | Cidan | also, uh, wut did you say? :( |
| 20:21.06 | AnduinLothar | butoon? |
| 20:21.07 | art3mis | i keep forgetting to move it when im playing |
| 20:21.09 | AnduinLothar | button* |
| 20:21.19 | art3mis | the ones that appears at the mini map? |
| 20:21.26 | AnduinLothar | ah, it's not rly a button |
| 20:21.29 | AnduinLothar | it's a frame |
| 20:21.31 | AnduinLothar | http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info4269-MobileMinimapButtons.html |
| 20:21.34 | art3mis | its round ;P |
| 20:21.39 | art3mis | yeah i have that |
| 20:21.47 | art3mis | like i said i just keep forgetting to do it ;P |
| 20:22.04 | ravagernl | anyone got some nice cowtip sv's for me? clean install |
| 20:22.06 | art3mis | i wonder why it doesnt end up in the button bag though |
| 20:22.15 | AnduinLothar | it's not a button |
| 20:22.21 | AnduinLothar | it breaks everything |
| 20:22.26 | AnduinLothar | it's anti-social |
| 20:22.34 | art3mis | the other minimap button addon used to grab it |
| 20:22.36 | art3mis | shrug |
| 20:22.46 | AnduinLothar | MMB has exception code for it |
| 20:22.50 | art3mis | oh |
| 20:24.02 | art3mis | man i wish i could remember that mod i found while looking at light headed |
| 20:24.27 | AnduinLothar | whats it do |
| 20:24.35 | art3mis | thats one of the problems ;P |
| 20:24.59 | art3mis | oh thats what it was! |
| 20:25.16 | art3mis | the map yer on in the world pvp map frame |
| 20:26.38 | AnduinLothar | you can jsut show it iirc |
| 20:26.41 | Thunder_Child | for any camera buffs http://gizmodo.com/gadgets/ifa2007/video-grope-canon-eos%201ds-mark-iii-295835.php?autoplay=true |
| 20:27.00 | art3mis | it was an addon that just made it visible |
| 20:27.05 | art3mis | was kind of handy |
| 20:27.29 | Olison | quick question: do you know of any "soft-ignore" mods, that keeps whispers and stuff from unliked people away but in a way that they dont get the "$Name is ignoring you" message... |
| 20:27.32 | art3mis | so any new and neat addons? |
| 20:27.51 | art3mis | ali: i think prat does it |
| 20:28.03 | art3mis | couple of other spam fitlers too |
| 20:28.12 | Kaydeethree | good god... 21MP |
| 20:28.14 | art3mis | you can just "gag" them as it were |
| 20:28.15 | AnduinLothar | imo that's just rude |
| 20:28.27 | art3mis | 21mp is NOT for porn ;P |
| 20:28.33 | Thunder_Child | Kaydeethree, ya, @ 5fps as well |
| 20:28.38 | art3mis | you don't want that kind of detail ever |
| 20:28.49 | Cidan | soft core porn mods? |
| 20:28.51 | Cidan | Hmm |
| 20:28.55 | Cidan | I bet I could make millions! |
| 20:29.21 | Olison | hm i cant find such a option in prat |
| 20:29.30 | art3mis | ask in wowace |
| 20:29.35 | art3mis | i know someone made one |
| 20:29.40 | art3mis | just cant remember its name |
| 20:29.55 | Olison | will do :> |
| 20:30.29 | art3mis | it memory serves there was one that blocked incoming wishpers and put them in the addons window for perusal latr as well |
| 20:32.32 | AnduinLothar | anyone use ChatEdit? |
| 20:32.42 | art3mis | nadda |
| 20:32.45 | AnduinLothar | not having any luck debugging this issue |
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| 20:33.05 | art3mis | i only use phlanx chat and cirks manager |
| 20:33.16 | art3mis | whats it doing? |
| 20:33.27 | AnduinLothar | let's you copy chat |
| 20:33.37 | art3mis | no whats it doing ;P |
| 20:33.44 | art3mis | not what is it ;P |
| 20:33.58 | art3mis | phlanx does that too |
| 20:34.08 | AnduinLothar | oh, it's not allowign scrolling the first time you open it |
| 20:34.12 | art3mis | lets you cut and paste in and out of the winder too |
| 20:34.32 | art3mis | like mouse drag scrolling? |
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| 20:35.04 | AnduinLothar | no, like the scroll window max is set to zero or something |
| 20:35.34 | AnduinLothar | calling ChatEditScrollFrame:UpdateScrollChildRect(); after it opens fixes it |
| 20:35.43 | AnduinLothar | but there's a ChatEditScrollFrame:UpdateScrollChildRect(); at the end of the show code |
| 20:35.51 | AnduinLothar | and putting 2 doesn't do anything |
| 20:36.03 | AnduinLothar | it like only fixes it if you open it or something |
| 20:36.06 | art3mis | maybe it's not calling it? |
| 20:36.10 | AnduinLothar | it is |
| 20:36.33 | AnduinLothar | but like it has no effect until after it's been shown for a second |
| 20:36.43 | AnduinLothar | like there's some event after or something |
| 20:37.13 | art3mis | hrm not a clue, only thing logically thast i can think of is that its getting called before it creates the chil;d its supposed to update |
| 20:37.32 | AnduinLothar | the child is created onload |
| 20:37.42 | AnduinLothar | and it's set as the scrollframe onload |
| 20:37.49 | AnduinLothar | er, scrollchild |
| 20:38.34 | AnduinLothar | OnSizeChanged seems to fire durring the show code, but even if i put ChatEditScrollFrame:UpdateScrollChildRect there it doesn't work |
| 20:38.54 | AnduinLothar | and it works fine if you close and open it or call ChatEditScrollFrame:UpdateScrollChildRect after it's open |
| 20:39.21 | AnduinLothar | it's baffling |
| 20:40.58 | AnduinLothar | oh other bugs: OnMouseUp doesn't seem to fire at all in an EditBox |
| 20:41.04 | AnduinLothar | OnMouseDown fires |
| 20:41.18 | AnduinLothar | but OnMouseUp doesn't once you've gained focus |
| 20:41.22 | art3mis | id suggest a new chat addon ;P |
| 20:41.31 | AnduinLothar | it's mine |
| 20:41.42 | AnduinLothar | these are frame flukes |
| 20:42.12 | AnduinLothar | like: OnEnterPressed never fires on an editbox with focus |
| 20:42.19 | AnduinLothar | but OnEscapePressed does |
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| 20:43.45 | AnduinLothar | i wouldn't be trying to debug it if i didn't write it |
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| 20:46.27 | art3mis | oh |
| 20:46.30 | art3mis | heh |
| 20:46.54 | art3mis | put in a hack code that opens it on load closes and reopens? |
| 20:47.04 | AnduinLothar | that's bleh |
| 20:47.16 | AnduinLothar | i think i may need to call ScrollFrame_OnScrollRangeChanged before showing it |
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| 20:49.01 | AnduinLothar | or maybe OnShow |
| 20:54.33 | AnduinLothar | i win |
| 20:55.08 | AnduinLothar | apparently OnTextChanged was firing a frame after SetText |
| 20:55.49 | AnduinLothar | or something liek that |
| 20:55.49 | AnduinLothar | actually, lemme check that |
| 20:57.37 | AnduinLothar | yup |
| 20:58.22 | AnduinLothar | Show >OnSizeChanged > OnTextChanged > OnScrollRangeChanged |
| 21:04.56 | Shirik | Anyone know which error handlers hook/modify seterrorhandler() ? |
| 21:05.05 | Shirik | s/ers/er(s)/ |
| 21:05.07 | AnduinLothar | what? |
| 21:05.30 | Shirik | iirc, BugSack disables seterrorhandler(), I'm wondering if others hook/modify it |
| 21:05.56 | bleeter | !swatter |
| 21:06.07 | Shirik | What I'm really worried is any error handlers that hook seterrorhandler() without hooking geterrorhandler() -- it could result in an infinite recursion loop in Conspiracy the way I'm writing it now |
| 21:06.37 | Shirik | thanks bleeter I'll check it out :) |
| 21:07.12 | AnduinLothar | why are you hooking it? |
| 21:07.27 | nevcairiel | so noone steals your errorhandler away |
| 21:07.31 | Shirik | exactly |
| 21:07.33 | AnduinLothar | that's jsut dumb.. |
| 21:07.49 | Shirik | There's no reason not to |
| 21:08.02 | AnduinLothar | you're breaking all other error handlers |
| 21:08.06 | Shirik | that's not true |
| 21:08.12 | Shirik | That's exactly why I asked the question |
| 21:08.24 | Shirik | I intend to make it work with other error handlers... the fact that I recognized this problem ahead of time asserts that |
| 21:08.36 | AnduinLothar | so you're callign them all? |
| 21:08.58 | Shirik | my intention is to have Conspiracy handle its own errors, then pass anything else on to whatever default error handler exists |
| 21:09.13 | Shirik | The reasoning being that I feel I can generate a more suitable error report due to the specific way Conspiracy works |
| 21:09.15 | AnduinLothar | >.< |
| 21:09.28 | Josh_Borke | ~botmail for Shirik: CTL/ACE/ROCK RDX KTHXBAI |
| 21:09.35 | Cidan | local lolOld = geterrorhandler(); |
| 21:09.39 | Shirik | exactly |
| 21:09.47 | Cidan | seterrorhandler(ConspiracyOwnsYou); |
| 21:09.57 | Shirik | now the issue arises with any error handler that hooks seterrorhandler doing this exact same philosophy, without taking care of geterrorhandler |
| 21:09.59 | zenzelezz | wasn't there some discussion a long time ago about some bug addon stealing seterrorhandler() and assigning it to _realseterrorhandler or something? |
| 21:10.04 | Shirik | We could just keep calling each other back and forth |
| 21:10.06 | zenzelezz | was heated IIRC |
| 21:10.14 | Shirik | zenzelezz: not quite |
| 21:10.16 | Shirik | well, yes |
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| 21:10.19 | zenzelezz | yes it was |
| 21:10.20 | Shirik | but that addon stole it |
| 21:10.25 | Shirik | and then gave no way to override the handler later |
| 21:10.27 | Josh_Borke | zenzelezz: BugSack/BugGrabber used to |
| 21:10.35 | Shirik | it took seterrorhandler and made it a noop |
| 21:10.52 | Cidan | any error handler that is trying to do what you are doing |
| 21:10.53 | Shirik | We intend to make seterrorhandler work on anything that is not an error coming from conspiracy |
| 21:10.59 | Cidan | will have got the old handler |
| 21:11.00 | Cidan | hands down |
| 21:11.12 | Cidan | so you would pass it to that error, and they would pass it to the one before you |
| 21:11.17 | Cidan | I wouldn't worry |
| 21:11.37 | zenzelezz | you name it Conspiracy and you expect us not to question your intentions? |
| 21:11.42 | Shirik | =( |
| 21:11.53 | Cidan | I really wouldn't worry about it |
| 21:11.59 | Cidan | just hook on, and you're good |
| 21:13.22 | Cidan | so I'm almost level 65 on Cidan |
| 21:13.24 | Cidan | yay. |
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| 21:26.03 | Shirik | =( |
| 21:26.10 | Shirik | in vista you can't do windows, u to shutdown |
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| 21:29.29 | Industrial | hahaha, vista. |
| 21:33.59 | Cide- | so vista is the new thing to hate? |
| 21:34.11 | Kaydeethree | "new" |
| 21:34.22 | Kaydeethree | er, "new"? |
| 21:34.32 | Cide | well, semi-new |
| 21:35.14 | amro_ | I like the badvista t-shirts |
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| 21:38.20 | ws | hey |
| 21:39.22 | zenzelezz | haha |
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| 21:47.08 | abug | if recycling tables is so good, why doesn't lua do it natively instead of garbage collecting them? |
| 21:47.51 | Cide | because recycling would require lua to know which tables are unused |
| 21:48.00 | Cide | which is effectively what garbage collection does anyway |
| 21:48.21 | Cide | so you basically do the same thing, except you keep the unused ones in memory instead of removing them from memory |
| 21:48.55 | Cide | that would be my guess, anyway |
| 21:56.09 | Josh_Borke | who says recycling tables is so good? |
| 21:57.26 | art3mis | walter the crazy homeless man on the way to the subway |
| 21:57.28 | art3mis | duh |
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| 22:00.17 | Iriel | Recycling is only good for certain types of table |
| 22:00.38 | Iriel | i.e. frequently created and discarded without massive changes in sizer |
| 22:00.43 | Iriel | size, even |
| 22:01.56 | amro_ | is anyone here using kepler? |
| 22:02.18 | Corrodias | here's a tip, guys. if you make a television advertisement, make sure you actually describe what the product DOES, because i'm not such a curious fellow that i will go find out on my own |
| 22:02.56 | art3mis | kepler? |
| 22:03.14 | art3mis | Corrodias: ? |
| 22:03.20 | Josh_Borke | art3mis: ? |
| 22:04.06 | Corrodias | God: ? |
| 22:04.19 | art3mis | Corrodias: what commercial |
| 22:04.25 | Corrodias | any |
| 22:05.00 | Corrodias | i'm talking about if you make any advertisements. are you asking me for an example? |
| 22:05.06 | Josh_Borke | ~lart Punkie` |
| 22:05.06 | purl | readies the nuke launcher and fires some rounds at Punkie` |
| 22:05.15 | amro_ | art3mis: http://www.keplerproject.org/ |
| 22:05.29 | Punkie` | :( |
| 22:06.02 | art3mis | neat |
| 22:06.12 | art3mis | what i'd love is a handy graphical xml creator ;P |
| 22:06.20 | art3mis | cuz i HATE xml |
| 22:06.29 | art3mis | and i dont wanna bother loading dreamweaver each time |
| 22:07.03 | Punkie` | man, dreamweaver |
| 22:07.08 | Punkie` | takes ages to load |
| 22:07.11 | Corrodias | looks like wowaceupdater's attempt to update itself now causes it to crash, at least in my version |
| 22:07.15 | art3mis | clad and cog should make a "for retards" addon creator |
| 22:07.25 | zenzelezz | I remember when Dreamweaver was an in-word |
| 22:07.29 | Corrodias | it keeps crashing after about 30 seconds. time to look for an update. |
| 22:07.33 | Josh_Borke | just don't close dreamweaver |
| 22:07.40 | art3mis | you click the functuion you want and it creates the brackts and crap with dummy values |
| 22:07.49 | art3mis | Josh_Borke: heh yeah there is that option i suppose |
| 22:07.54 | zenzelezz | my wowaceupdater works, it just insists on re-adding itself to my start menu every time I load it |
| 22:08.15 | art3mis | go look in wowace guys, syl is fixing that as you bitch ;P |
| 22:09.05 | zenzelezz | can't be bothered, I didn't want it in the first place, but my Omen keeps screaming at me that someone has a newer version |
| 22:09.23 | zenzelezz | well, it adds a small line under the window, but it's enough to annoy me |
| 22:11.45 | Corrodias | there is a new version of wowaceupdater, but i can't seem to install it |
| 22:11.55 | Corrodias | downloading setup.exe and running it just opens my current version, which will crash in 30 seconds |
| 22:12.20 | art3mis | http://youtube.com/watch?v=CXtyYiI5HDk |
| 22:14.06 | zenzelezz | so far my guild has killed Karathress three times... 3 necks, 5 Champion legs |
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| 22:15.14 | art3mis | thats such a great interview |
| 22:16.52 | Corrodias | *eyeroll* |
| 22:17.01 | Corrodias | "cannot download the application. the application is missing required files." |
| 22:17.07 | Corrodias | well DUH, that's why i want you to download it |
| 22:18.45 | Corrodias | and if i click the install button on the wowaceupdater installer page, it complains it can't find the .application file |
| 22:22.34 | Corrodias | had to download the install_wau.zip from the wiki site. at least that worked. |
| 22:22.34 | zenzelezz | hrm... new mail icon was up, went to mailbox, nothing |
| 22:23.03 | ScytheBlade1 | zenzelezz, someone just sent you money (or an item, I've confirmed it with money)... wait an hour. ;) |
| 22:23.19 | zenzelezz | you get the notification too soon? |
| 22:23.37 | ScytheBlade1 | I had a friend mail me 3g |
| 22:23.40 | amro_ | zenzelezz: i've noticed some lag with the mailbox sometimes |
| 22:23.40 | ScytheBlade1 | I got the notice instantly |
| 22:23.49 | ScytheBlade1 | I got the mail an hour later |
| 22:23.55 | amro_ | even with AH mail |
| 22:24.01 | amro_ | but lag in seconds |
| 22:24.02 | art3mis | yeah that hapens to me from time to time too |
| 22:24.06 | zenzelezz | ScytheBlade1: I see, I'll check again later - thanks |
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| 22:26.05 | Thunder_Child | lazy persons camera http://gizmodo.com/gadgets/ifa2007/sonys-t200-cybershot-photographs-smiles-automatically-295841.php?autoplay=true |
| 22:28.01 | art3mis | hey thunder |
| 22:28.31 | art3mis | what would you suggest for a cheap flashcard HD camcorder under 300$ thats decent quality? |
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| 22:29.55 | bleeter | http://www.wowarmory.com/search.xml?searchQuery=gaysex&searchType=all |
| 22:31.15 | cute_attack | hello, can anyone tell me which color the Blizzard UI in WoW interprets as transparent? |
| 22:31.18 | zenzelezz | I swear one of the blood elf "ouch" noises is a cat |
| 22:32.00 | Corrodias | i don't imagine any of those characters' names are going to last long |
| 22:32.18 | Thunder_Child | 1 sec art3mis, let me take a look |
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| 22:34.02 | art3mis | Sudoku Bondage: Tied Up And Bound *ISO* |
| 22:34.04 | art3mis | wtf? |
| 22:35.17 | Corrodias | huh? |
| 22:35.34 | Corrodias | talk abo utlack of context |
| 22:35.42 | art3mis | was browsing a torrent site |
| 22:35.53 | art3mis | appearantly its bdsm sudoku |
| 22:36.04 | Corrodias | we know that around the internet as "porn" |
| 22:36.18 | clad|away | cute_attack: your question isn't very clear at all.. a color in wow has an alpha channel, and rgb components. |
| 22:36.52 | cute_attack | I'm sorry for the lack of clarity, allow me to explain in more detail... |
| 22:37.09 | cute_attack | I am using mazzle ui |
| 22:37.13 | clad|away | ok |
| 22:37.23 | cute_attack | and I want to change a skin so that it is completely tranparent |
| 22:37.26 | amro_ | cute_attack: transparency is handled by an alpha channel, not by a specific color |
| 22:37.27 | cute_attack | any kni |
| 22:37.30 | cute_attack | *skin |
| 22:37.38 | cute_attack | I was told that I could change the color of the skin |
| 22:37.48 | cute_attack | that is to say to a particular color |
| 22:37.58 | clad|away | you would have to open each and every graphic, and change the alpha channel of the graphic |
| 22:38.01 | ScytheBlade1 | cute_attack, there's a slider on the side of the color wheep. That's the transparency. It's not a color, it's a seperate component. |
| 22:38.02 | clad|away | if we're talking textures. |
| 22:38.06 | cute_attack | that "counts" as tranparent, but I guess that is wrong? |
| 22:38.17 | ScytheBlade1 | s/wheep/wheel/ |
| 22:39.41 | cute_attack | so I can just convert the images to .tga, change the alpha value to 0%, convert back to blizzards format, and it will work? |
| 22:40.13 | ScytheBlade1 | You can also leave it in .tga |
| 22:40.17 | ScytheBlade1 | WoW will accept that natively |
| 22:40.20 | cute_attack | oh |
| 22:40.31 | cute_attack | well thank you very much |
| 22:40.54 | art3mis | cute_attack: run /dart and /duf |
| 22:41.29 | art3mis | thats where the main colours are controlled. if you're talking about borders of the frames however those are images and you cant modify those |
| 22:41.59 | cute_attack | ok |
| 22:42.30 | cute_attack | run /dart and /duf? |
| 22:42.34 | art3mis | yeah |
| 22:42.35 | Cidan | cute_attack, uh, nice... nick? |
| 22:42.42 | cute_attack | please explain? |
| 22:42.44 | art3mis | type /dart and /duf in yer chat frame |
| 22:42.50 | cute_attack | and that will do...? |
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| 22:43.00 | art3mis | itll bring up the programs mazzle uses to create the unit frames and bottom "panels" |
| 22:43.10 | cute_attack | oh cool |
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| 22:43.20 | Thunder_Child | art3mis, i cant find any under 500....have you seen one? |
| 22:43.42 | art3mis | yeah no-name (chinese made) things at like best buy and CC |
| 22:43.44 | Cidan | Thunder_Child, that's because they are all OVER NINE THOUUUSAAANNDDD |
| 22:43.55 | Corrodias | jesus... |
| 22:44.01 | art3mis | they dont seem too bad as started cameras and the hd one is 249 or something |
| 22:44.12 | art3mis | all flashcard |
| 22:44.18 | art3mis | one sec |
| 22:44.57 | art3mis | http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp?skuId=8371923&type=product&id=1177718668809 <-- for example |
| 22:45.09 | cute_attack | art3mis, if you can tell me one final thing, would CT_VIEWPORT override the viewport "hard-coded" lua code in the mazzle, or do I have to open the file and change the number? |
| 22:45.31 | Cide | depends on how it's implemented |
| 22:45.43 | Cide | CT_Viewport changes the viewport once |
| 22:45.47 | art3mis | umm it prolly wont work right. mazzles stuff tends to not play nice with other "additions" |
| 22:45.59 | Cide | if mazzleui changes it every refresh it wouldn't work |
| 22:46.06 | cute_attack | well, lets just say I have to change the mazzle code, what number do I change it to to make it full screen? |
| 22:46.20 | cute_attack | ok |
| 22:47.22 | Cidan | ah mazzle |
| 22:47.25 | Cidan | How I loath thee. |
| 22:47.36 | art3mis | he did a good job at a compilation |
| 22:47.45 | art3mis | unfortunately his personal preferences for stuff suck ass |
| 22:48.07 | cute_attack | honestly i think mazzle is great (I could just not know any better) but I really want no skin |
| 22:48.21 | art3mis | the easiest way to fix the no skin thing |
| 22:48.28 | cute_attack | yes? |
| 22:48.28 | art3mis | is just to replace all the textures |
| 22:48.37 | art3mis | check the forums for the other "skins" |
| 22:48.42 | art3mis | that will tell you how to change them |
| 22:48.50 | cute_attack | no no all the skins are bad :P |
| 22:48.53 | art3mis | heh |
| 22:48.56 | art3mis | run /dart |
| 22:49.01 | cute_attack | I want nothing there just the bettons etc |
| 22:49.04 | art3mis | and remove or replace them with solid colours |
| 22:49.12 | cute_attack | no colours!! :P |
| 22:49.13 | art3mis | thas the easiest |
| 22:49.16 | art3mis | thats |
| 22:49.26 | art3mis | just open /dart and you'll see what i mean ;P |
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| 22:49.42 | art3mis | its REALLY easy to replce the applied textures with nothing |
| 22:49.46 | cute_attack | ok cool i'm glad I joined this room you guys or gals are very helpful |
| 22:50.00 | cute_attack | so then I just need to change the viewport code |
| 22:50.01 | abug | only on sundays |
| 22:50.04 | cute_attack | lol |
| 22:50.06 | art3mis | i'd leave that alone |
| 22:50.15 | cute_attack | but what number do I change the viewport valur to? |
| 22:50.17 | art3mis | the viewport in mazzle is specifically set up for that layout |
| 22:50.23 | cute_attack | oh? |
| 22:50.32 | art3mis | it works/looks better if you dont muck with it |
| 22:50.34 | cute_attack | so it will mess everything up? |
| 22:50.39 | cute_attack | i see |
| 22:50.50 | cute_attack | but then I will have a black bar at the bottom of the screen |
| 22:50.51 | art3mis | and *if* you dont want it that way i believe somewhere in the option is a tick box to disable it |
| 22:50.58 | cute_attack | hmm? |
| 22:51.03 | art3mis | not really, thats where all yer buttons will be ;P |
| 22:51.11 | art3mis | just like warcraft 3 ;P |
| 22:51.22 | cute_attack | well yes but overlayed on a black rect no? |
| 22:51.29 | bleeter | Corrodias: doubt they'll last long either, but did you note they're all one faction? |
| 22:51.29 | cute_attack | well I'll give it a try |
| 22:51.56 | cute_attack | ok I'm gonna log in and try out /dart |
| 22:52.11 | art3mis | yeah itll be on the black, which is why i suggest selecting a colour for the panel when you replace the textures and current stuff |
| 22:52.12 | cute_attack | thanks again, a lot |
| 22:52.23 | cute_attack | ok |
| 22:52.31 | art3mis | just get rid of the textures for the border and you should end up with just normal black background |
| 22:52.59 | cute_attack | well i may or may not be back shortly, depending on how my musings go |
| 22:53.08 | cute_attack | ttyl |
| 22:57.30 | Corrodias | hmm. i'm banishing demons up here in blade's edge mountains and i just finish the quest when some 70 shaman asks me if i want to help him do it. |
| 22:58.38 | Corrodias | i'm thinking how happy i'd be to help a restoration shaman with a quest, but i am a suspicous fellow, so i look him up in the armory, which reveals his spec as enhancement. i ask him if there's something i don't know that would make me want to help an enhancement shaman do a quest i have finished, and he seems at a loss. |
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| 22:59.48 | art3mis | hey look everyone its wobin! |
| 23:00.02 | Wobin | Where? |
| 23:00.06 | Thunder_Child | art3mis, not a clue...i once saw a comparison in one of my mags but i cant seem to find it..other than that i dont know |
| 23:01.36 | Thunder_Child | if i had to recomend a camcorder it would be http://www.red.com/cameras/tech_specs |
| 23:02.32 | art3mis | that looks so fake |
| 23:02.39 | art3mis | im sure its not |
| 23:02.45 | Thunder_Child | it's also very very very good |
| 23:02.50 | art3mis | but it looks like an item from a video game ;P |
| 23:03.41 | art3mis | geezus 17.5 |
| 23:03.57 | art3mis | can it make waffles too? |
| 23:06.54 | Corrodias | awesome |
| 23:07.19 | Corrodias | what's the price? |
| 23:07.20 | zenzelezz | I like how people zip a 1'241'007 kb movie with no compression, just to include a readme.txt and our_site.url |
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| 23:07.51 | art3mis | Corrodias: its 17.5k +1200 for the production addon kit |
| 23:07.53 | Corrodias | oh, dear. thousands of dollars. not for me. |
| 23:08.45 | Thunder_Child | it's also ~ to "pro" cameras |
| 23:08.55 | Thunder_Child | e.g. costing 100,000+ |
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| 23:09.14 | art3mis | know anyone that has opne? |
| 23:09.16 | art3mis | one |
| 23:09.27 | Corrodias | well, that's awesome, but still out of my price range. good thing i don't actually need a camera. |
| 23:09.40 | art3mis | wonder what the quality is like |
| 23:09.44 | Thunder_Child | one of the more famous directors shot a movie with one |
| 23:09.48 | art3mis | ie. standard vs 35mm |
| 23:09.50 | Thunder_Child | lets ee if i can find it |
| 23:10.37 | Thunder_Child | oh, clip |
| 23:10.38 | Thunder_Child | http://gizmodo.com/gadgets/digital-cameras/red-and-peter-jacksons-crossing-the-line-clip-shot-on-red-one-cameras-254672.php |
| 23:12.13 | Corrodias | i like this comment, "There are still plenty of folks who like the warmth of film and don't want to make the switch to video and I don't see that changing all that soon." |
| 23:12.23 | art3mis | i was at NAB and saw the 4K projected. The stuff looked really nice. |
| 23:12.23 | art3mis | Too bad Jackson's short was way too long and drawn out..kinda..like..his movies. |
| 23:12.23 | art3mis | Good thing there's no slow-mo in 4K or we would've been there for a half hour, and the line would've started at the Venetian. |
| 23:12.34 | art3mis | hehe that part made me laugh |
| 23:12.40 | Corrodias | the warmth of film. maybe you have to be someone who uses cameras for a living to know what he's talking about, but i've never seen anything attractive about inaccuracy. |
| 23:12.50 | Corrodias | or rather impreciceness |
| 23:12.57 | art3mis | Corrodias: its more a quality issue |
| 23:13.09 | art3mis | you can have too much deatil and detract for the over all attempted effect |
| 23:13.20 | art3mis | detail |
| 23:13.49 | Garoun | could really do without repeatedly being locked in combat while doing the bombing runs in BEM |
| 23:13.49 | art3mis | its stilla pertty sexy camera |
| 23:13.55 | Corrodias | so... a lack of detail is what's attractive about film? >_> |
| 23:13.56 | art3mis | not 17.5k worth |
| 23:14.02 | art3mis | to a degree yes |
| 23:14.12 | art3mis | mostly to artsy types |
| 23:14.17 | art3mis | like take film noir type films |
| 23:14.28 | art3mis | those in super crispy and clear video would be horrid |
| 23:14.33 | Corrodias | i've never understood nor agreed with artsy types, and i guess this isn't going to break that trend. ah. |
| 23:14.54 | art3mis | or even lets say dark city |
| 23:15.12 | art3mis | if that had been done with super fine detail the crazed effect of it may be lost |
| 23:15.20 | art3mis | thats the "warmth" he's talking about |
| 23:15.26 | Thunder_Child | there is never a problem with to much deatil...it can always be reduced post-processing...cant to it the other way around |
| 23:15.33 | art3mis | the sorta visual blur that mimics peripheral |
| 23:15.55 | Corrodias | hmm, if you say so |
| 23:16.05 | art3mis | Thunder_Child: true but it think its more an amateur vs pro studio argument |
| 23:16.15 | Corrodias | i rather wished i had a clearer view of the proceedings, and i usually do when i'm watching a movie. |
| 23:16.24 | art3mis | me too |
| 23:16.35 | art3mis | im all for visually amazing and clear with fine details |
| 23:17.08 | art3mis | but if your camera is super good you end up with imperfections because of vision. |
| 23:17.33 | art3mis | instead of nice smooth filtering yadda yadda yadda, but as TC says post production can take care oft hat all |
| 23:17.48 | art3mis | although if too much post is done you end up with suiper fake looking ;P |
| 23:17.58 | Thunder_Child | easy to reduce hard to improve |
| 23:18.31 | art3mis | yeah |
| 23:18.47 | art3mis | its all in the eye of the beholder though |
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| 23:20.12 | zenzelezz | unrelated to cameras, but I dislike CGI for the mere fact that a lot of movies spend all their money on that rather than ensuring the quality of the script, actors, etc |
| 23:21.05 | art3mis | yeah |
| 23:21.13 | art3mis | fianl fantasy was pretty rad though |
| 23:21.15 | art3mis | final |
| 23:21.34 | art3mis | the only thing that bothered me about it from time to time was that they didnt seem to get dirty or have rumppled cloths |
| 23:21.36 | zenzelezz | it's not universally bad, just generally misused |
| 23:21.45 | art3mis | yup |
| 23:21.50 | art3mis | sci-fi channel for instance ;P |
| 23:21.54 | zenzelezz | hehe |
| 23:24.02 | ScytheBlade1 | lol, crap |
| 23:24.15 | ScytheBlade1 | I accidently did GetMouseFocus():StartMoving() on the WorldFrame |
| 23:24.28 | ScytheBlade1 | That one is actually saved over /console reloadui, logouts, etc.. |
| 23:24.30 | zenzelezz | O_o |
| 23:24.40 | art3mis | hahahahaa |
| 23:24.49 | ScytheBlade1 | asdf |
| 23:24.53 | ScytheBlade1 | This is going to take effort to fix |
| 23:24.56 | art3mis | OP macro FTL ;P |
| 23:25.02 | ScytheBlade1 | ftl indeed |
| 23:25.03 | art3mis | no its not ;P |
| 23:25.09 | art3mis | rm -r WTF |
| 23:25.11 | art3mis | heh |
| 23:25.13 | ScytheBlade1 | Yeah. Effort. |
| 23:25.15 | ScytheBlade1 | Lots of effort. |
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| 23:25.53 | zenzelezz | ClearAllPoints(); SetPoint()? Worth a shot |
| 23:26.02 | Corrodias | SET POINT OMG |
| 23:26.44 | Corrodias | StartMoving() on the worldframe? oh, dear. what does that do? |
| 23:27.03 | ScytheBlade1 | Very bad things. |
| 23:27.07 | Cidan | lol |
| 23:27.20 | ScytheBlade1 | At least it keeps it in the proper aspect ratio |
| 23:27.27 | Corrodias | please describe what things. |
| 23:27.47 | ScytheBlade1 | Screenshot, moment |
| 23:28.26 | Corrodias | can you not execute GetMouseFocus():StopMoving() or something? then it has to save the thing's position somewhere, maybe in layout-cache.txt |
| 23:28.55 | Cide- | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:29.01 | Cide- | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:29.40 | ScytheBlade1 | Cide, I love you. |
| 23:29.43 | Corrodias | /script WorldFrame.StartMoving = noop |
| 23:29.52 | Corrodias | or whatever you have defined as the nothing function |
| 23:30.02 | Corrodias | to keep yourself from doing it again ;P |
| 23:30.39 | ScytheBlade1 | http://www.brantleyonline.com/worldframe.jpg |
| 23:31.02 | zenzelezz | lol |
| 23:31.55 | Corrodias | HAH, that's awesome |
| 23:32.13 | ScytheBlade1 | YOU try putting it back by hand. |
| 23:32.16 | ScytheBlade1 | Stupidly painful. |
| 23:32.49 | Corrodias | i have code to place my chat box just where i want it, DEFAULT_CHAT_FRAME:SetPoint("BOTTOMLEFT", UIParent, "BOTTOMLEFT", 32, 117) DEFAULT_CHAT_FRAME.SetPoint = donothing |
| 23:33.00 | Corrodias | so crap can't keep MOVING it |
| 23:35.23 | ScytheBlade1 | I pretty much cried when I did that :( |
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| 23:44.35 | Cidan | Why must children be so stupid? |
| 23:44.53 | Cidan | Stupid mage got a 'tude with me in hellfire, he trained the entire instance on me. |
| 23:45.02 | Cidan | Killed everyone in the party, except me. |
| 23:45.04 | Cidan | :/ |
| 23:45.07 | ScytheBlade1 | lol owned |
| 23:45.09 | ScytheBlade1 | What class are you? |
| 23:45.13 | Cidan | Paladin. |
| 23:45.16 | ScytheBlade1 | A hahaha |
| 23:45.18 | ScytheBlade1 | That was stupid |
| 23:45.21 | Cidan | Yep. |
| 23:45.36 | ScytheBlade1 | "I'm going to kill a paladin!" |
| 23:45.40 | ScytheBlade1 | "..... no you're not." |
| 23:45.41 | ScytheBlade1 | "Watch!" |
| 23:45.44 | ScytheBlade1 | "....." |
| 23:45.57 | ScytheBlade1 | "Oh." |
| 23:47.03 | Cidan | I just... want level 70 |
| 23:47.07 | Cidan | So I can get my flying mount |
| 23:48.29 | Cidan | like I don't care about end game, etc, I just want to fly. Is that so much to ask for? |
| 23:50.17 | zenzelezz | ScytheBlade1: you were right about the mail by the way, the notification was just premature |
| 23:52.01 | AnduinLothar | Check out my Win pvp spec |
| 23:52.02 | AnduinLothar | http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/info/classes/paladin/talents.html?0550000200000000000050321130023320520000000520302122000000000000 |
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| 23:54.28 | Cidan | I guess it's okay, but you'll never do very much damage, or healing, or tank. |
| 23:54.32 | Cidan | You're kinda just, a bit of all |
| 23:55.57 | AnduinLothar | the idea is to make them angry and then take all the dmg and get reckonning swings from it |
| 23:56.57 | AnduinLothar | our 3v3 did pretty well today outlasting everyone. druid healing and a sSP |
| 23:57.00 | Cidan | I'd do something like this |
| 23:57.00 | Cidan | http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/info/classes/paladin/talents.html?0550000000000000000005320000000000000000000520535002030005301151 |
| 23:57.05 | Cidan | though not final, hmm |
| 23:57.34 | AnduinLothar | precision is pretty useless pvp, just needed it for the top ones |
| 23:59.43 | AnduinLothar | my usual ret spec is http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/info/classes/paladin/talents.html?5000000000000000000000000000000000000000005523105122033125331351 |
| 23:59.50 | AnduinLothar | for pvp and pve dps |
