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| 00:00.16 | art3mis | ahhh because it's got gay click through ads now |
| 00:00.51 | Cidan | YOTSUBA SNAKE, CAN YOU HEAR ME?1 |
| 00:00.57 | Cidan | :D |
| 00:07.01 | art3mis | now i remember why i hate curse |
| 00:07.39 | art3mis | cidan go code me my addon |
| 00:07.49 | Cidan | what now what? |
| 00:07.58 | art3mis | yuo dont have metroid therse no reason to play your wii today |
| 00:08.09 | Cidan | true |
| 00:08.34 | art3mis | i want an addon taht lets me create boxes, and within boxes i can setup addons, when i clsoe the box it hides and closes all the addos and when i open it it opens/runs displays them |
| 00:08.58 | art3mis | so i can haev quick toggle raid layout, party layout solo layout etc |
| 00:09.20 | Cidan | Hmm |
| 00:09.23 | Cidan | should be easy to do |
| 00:09.27 | Cidan | well kinda |
| 00:12.15 | art3mis | i wonder if i can rip out the dart and duf from mazzle ui and use that to make my hellow kitty interface |
| 00:12.18 | art3mis | hello |
| 00:12.42 | Lunessa | DUF and DART are still out there - a fan ported them to 2.0. |
| 00:13.04 | Lunessa | A search on the UI & macros forum ought to surface alink. |
| 00:13.43 | art3mis | ahh okay i was just checking downlaods |
| 00:13.48 | Mr_Rabies2 | welp |
| 00:14.12 | Mr_Rabies2 | this whore-killing spree pre-maiden is pretty...interesting. |
| 00:15.08 | Thunder_Child | just like any woman, they become background noise after a while |
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| 00:25.42 | Lunessa | ... Thunder_Child you've yet to learn that women actually rule the world. |
| 00:26.58 | Thunder_Child | that dosent disprove what i said |
| 00:27.08 | art3mis | what was that addon taht showed grid liens on the screen so you could line up things? |
| 00:27.46 | JoshBorke | align |
| 00:27.48 | art3mis | computers rules the world at present and any nerd will tell you taht they only actually hear thier computer as more than background noise if there's something wrong with it |
| 00:27.49 | art3mis | thanks |
| 00:35.41 | clad|book | Anyone here from the UK tonight? |
| 00:44.41 | Lunessa | http://xkcd.com/ |
| 00:49.20 | Wobwork | nearly 2am in the uk atm |
| 00:49.28 | Wobwork | which doesn't preclude someone being online =P |
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| 01:04.28 | [Liquidor] | Anyone know of an addon for assigning healing tasks? |
| 01:05.33 | JoshBorke | <PROTECTED> |
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| 01:16.36 | Lunessa | ::sigh:: we just had to evacuate the building for an alarm. And then, 10 minutes later, they let us back in. |
| 01:18.58 | JoshBorke | Lunessa: hey! my building had a fire alarm go off too, i just ignored it |
| 01:19.16 | Lunessa | I would have, but... |
| 01:26.17 | Lunessa | web sites using that stupid image overlay thing like Curse and incgamers have drunk the bad design kool-aid. |
| 01:27.15 | sysrage | oh you wanna see bad site design? i found a good one yesterday |
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| 01:27.23 | sysrage | http://www.foggnsuds.com/ |
| 01:27.25 | alestane | It does make the site harder to navigate probably. |
| 01:27.36 | JoshBorke | yahoo.com |
| 01:27.48 | sysrage | doesn't work worth a damn in firefox |
| 01:27.59 | JoshBorke | where's the rest of tweh page? |
| 01:28.00 | JoshBorke | lol |
| 01:28.13 | sysrage | it's made with some retarded IE only layers or something |
| 01:28.32 | Lunessa | I dislike any design element which usurps control of my browsing experience. |
| 01:28.48 | sysrage | agreed. flash FTL |
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| 01:35.44 | AnduinLothar | http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info7505-TelepathyLite.html |
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| 01:43.53 | Cidan | art3mis, I will be including a hello kitty theme in Conspiracy |
| 01:44.05 | Cidan | assuming I can get it looking nice, I should be able to do it. |
| 01:44.39 | Mr_Rabies2 | what's conspiracy again, if you don't mind me asking? :O |
| 01:44.51 | Cidan | www.conspiracy-ui.com |
| 01:45.13 | Thunder_Child | ~lart Cidan |
| 01:45.13 | purl | throws a AN/M-8 smoke grenade at Cidan |
| 01:46.20 | Lunessa | Better toss in a bimbos theme too. |
| 01:46.21 | Cidan | :( |
| 01:46.29 | Cidan | Hmm, not sure I want that one |
| 01:46.39 | Cidan | I want to keep the themes a bit friendly |
| 01:46.56 | Wobwork | Friendly bimbos? |
| 01:47.52 | Cidan | looking for hello kitty pictures on GIS now |
| 01:48.30 | Lunessa | Bikinis then. :) |
| 01:48.44 | Cidan | Damn it, no bimbos, no bikinis |
| 01:48.54 | Cidan | Azumanga? Perhaps |
| 01:48.58 | Wobwork | himbos? |
| 01:49.01 | JoshBorke | cidan: so naked smart chicks? |
| 01:49.04 | Cidan | Yotsuba? Likely. |
| 01:49.49 | Cidan | No nudity, :( |
| 01:50.28 | Wobwork | You just need strategically placed frames |
| 01:50.38 | Wobwork | and voila, no nudity |
| 01:50.43 | Wobwork | just nekkidness |
| 01:51.46 | Cidan | no, :( |
| 01:52.28 | Mr_Rabies2 | the azumanga one is only useful if it plays the between commericals music every time you leave combat |
| 01:52.58 | Cidan | lol |
| 01:52.59 | Mr_Rabies2 | dun da-dun dun da-dun dun-da dun dun dun |
| 01:53.23 | Cidan | doo do-doo doo do-doo doo-do doo doo doo |
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| 01:53.25 | Cidan | :D |
| 01:53.59 | Mr_Rabies2 | moroes bugged |
| 01:54.02 | Mr_Rabies2 | >;[ |
| 01:54.10 | Mr_Rabies2 | we kill attumen, then him, then maiden |
| 01:54.13 | Mr_Rabies2 | then go to opera |
| 01:54.15 | Mr_Rabies2 | and it's like |
| 01:54.18 | Mr_Rabies2 | ohey moroes aint dead |
| 01:54.38 | Wobwork | "Just kidding!" |
| 01:54.51 | Mr_Rabies2 | so we just sat outside the instance for 30 mins |
| 01:54.53 | Mr_Rabies2 | :/ |
| 01:54.57 | Mr_Rabies2 | moroes is back |
| 01:54.57 | Mr_Rabies2 | so |
| 01:55.00 | Mr_Rabies2 | doubel lewtz |
| 01:55.32 | clad|book | what do we think the chances are that this power supply will work in both the US and the UK? http://www.newegg.com/Product/ShowImage.aspx?CurImage=17-198-006-05.jpg&Image=17-198-006-02.jpg%2c17-198-006-03.jpg%2c17-198-006-04.jpg%2c17-198-006-05.jpg%2c17-198-006-06.jpg&S7ImageFlag=0&Depa=1&Description=ICY+DOCK+MB559UEB-1S+External+Enclosure |
| 01:55.52 | Mr_Rabies2 | hugelink is huge |
| 01:55.56 | Kaydeethree | UK's 220, right? |
| 01:56.02 | JoshBorke | 0 |
| 01:56.11 | clad|book | yeah i think so |
| 01:56.15 | clad|book | !t http://www.newegg.com/Product/ShowImage.aspx?CurImage=17-198-006-05.jpg&Image=17-198-006-02.jpg%2c17-198-006-03.jpg%2c17-198-006-04.jpg%2c17-198-006-05.jpg%2c17-198-006-06.jpg&S7ImageFlag=0&Depa=1&Description=ICY+DOCK+MB559UEB-1S+External+Enclosure |
| 01:56.18 | ThraeBot | clad|book: http://tinyurl.com/2f3p9o |
| 01:57.10 | clad|book | there are FIrewire 800 enclosures too, but I can't justify paying double the price, just to save time |
| 01:57.15 | Mr_Rabies2 | well it uses an ac adapter |
| 01:57.18 | Mr_Rabies2 | so |
| 01:57.32 | Mr_Rabies2 | perhaps they make one for the uk market that properly downsteps voltage |
| 01:57.54 | clad|book | well most power supplies these days will downstep without any issue. |
| 01:58.12 | Mr_Rabies2 | that just looks like it uses a regular ordinary ac adapter |
| 01:58.13 | clad|book | even stuff bought within the last 10 years or so, if its an adapter, then it typically works properly |
| 01:58.33 | JoshBorke | i say you buy it and watch it not work :-P |
| 01:59.03 | clad|book | I have a similar adapter, and its a switching adapter.. taking in multiple inputs, and stepping them to the correct output |
| 01:59.29 | Kaydeethree | geez... is the wii update supposed to take this long? it's been ticking for a bit more than an hour now and it's only halfway done |
| 01:59.40 | JoshBorke | Kaydeethree: PWNED! |
| 01:59.51 | JoshBorke | ~lart Kaydeethree |
| 01:59.51 | purl | decapitates Kaydeethree conan the destroyer style |
| 02:00.23 | Cidan | er |
| 02:00.23 | Cidan | no |
| 02:00.27 | Cidan | it's not supposed to take that long |
| 02:00.39 | Cidan | but likely since Metroid Prime 3 is out, a lot of people are updating |
| 02:00.44 | Lunessa | JoshBorke: You're so 5 minutes ago. the correct term is PWNT |
| 02:01.00 | JoshBorke | WTF?! |
| 02:01.05 | Mr_Rabies2 | QWNJ imo |
| 02:01.06 | JoshBorke | this happens and no one tells me?! |
| 02:01.10 | JoshBorke | where's the communication break down |
| 02:01.42 | Lunessa | Um, aren't you supposed to take the taelosian wheat to the girl on the big boat city for that? |
| 02:02.44 | Lunessa | lame EQ reference FTL |
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| 02:19.44 | Lunessa | Sorry cogwheel I couldn't take it anymore. |
| 02:19.48 | Mr_Rabies2 | you know |
| 02:20.02 | Mr_Rabies2 | a bucket of slugs would not be enjoyable |
| 02:20.26 | Mr_Rabies2 | unless you were at a salt factory |
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| 02:23.06 | JoshBorke | i'm confused |
| 02:23.14 | cogwheel | My wife accidentally hits enter at the same time as apostrophe |
| 02:23.19 | cogwheel | a lot |
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| 02:23.32 | Mr_Rabies2 | my bum is on the swedish |
| 02:23.33 | Lunessa | I do it all the time. Fat, clumsy fingers and bad typing. |
| 02:23.37 | Mr_Rabies2 | SWEEEEDISH |
| 02:23.55 | clad|book | so who wants to talk external hard drives? |
| 02:24.02 | Lunessa | What about them? |
| 02:24.10 | clad|book | trying to decide between spending $$ for http://www.g-technology.com/Products/G-DRIVE.cfm |
| 02:24.11 | Mr_Rabies2 | internal + enclosure imo clad|book |
| 02:24.12 | Cidan | :D |
| 02:24.30 | clad|book | buying an internal + enclosure (if so, what enclosure?) |
| 02:24.34 | Thunder_Child | /agree /w Mr_Rabies2 |
| 02:24.44 | clad|book | and buying the stock http://www.wdc.com/en/products/products.asp?driveid=242&language=en or http://www.wdc.com/en/products/products.asp?driveid=317&language=en |
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| 02:25.05 | clad|book | why do you recommend internal + enclosure, if you dont mind my asking. |
| 02:25.07 | Lunessa | Give me a few to read the links |
| 02:25.17 | cogwheel | cheaper probably |
| 02:25.27 | clad|book | Its not really all that cheaper, actually |
| 02:25.38 | Thunder_Child | cheaper + you know for sure what your puting inside |
| 02:25.41 | JoshBorke | clad|book: because it'll be cheaper in the long run |
| 02:25.59 | clad|book | Enclosures come in two different flavors, the $25.00 bracket, and the $50-$75.00 bracket |
| 02:26.19 | clad|book | I wouldn't buy the $25.00, unless someone has a specific one they would recommend, with firewire and a universal power supply |
| 02:26.28 | clad|book | the hard drive itself is easy to pick :P |
| 02:26.31 | clad|book | the enclosure is the issue |
| 02:27.16 | clad|book | Mr_Rabies2: Thunder_Child: Any suggestions on enclosure? |
| 02:27.32 | Thunder_Child | what connection type do you want? |
| 02:27.40 | Thunder_Child | usb/firewire/sata etc. |
| 02:27.47 | Thunder_Child | err..esata |
| 02:27.49 | clad|book | i would like usb/firewire |
| 02:28.03 | clad|book | fw400 will be used primarily |
| 02:28.05 | Thunder_Child | active cooling? |
| 02:28.25 | clad|book | if its passive cooling is good enough, i suppose i'd prefer passive |
| 02:28.32 | clad|book | but i'm open to either, since I won't have the drive on all the time. |
| 02:28.43 | Lunessa | clad|book: For off-the-shelf the G-Drive looks pretty sweet. Passive cooling is something that concerns me, but the drive itself looks pretty nice at 500gb. |
| 02:28.59 | clad|book | yeah G-Drive is pimp-ass. |
| 02:29.10 | clad|book | But I like being able to take the physical drive out and toss it into a PC.. or another enclosure |
| 02:29.17 | Lunessa | Spec are good, has all the inputs, and comes mac-ready by default. |
| 02:29.39 | cogwheel | Heh... My uncle has about 20 of those at 500 GB scattered around his house... |
| 02:29.55 | clad|book | i can justify the price diff between the g-drive and the western digital mybooks, just on principle and looking cool :P |
| 02:30.05 | clad|book | but don't want to dismiss enclosure + drive either |
| 02:30.39 | Lunessa | Enclosure + Drive is good for saving money at the expense of 20 mins extra set up. |
| 02:30.46 | cogwheel | mmm... 2 year warranty... |
| 02:30.50 | Lunessa | And an extra 20 mins of research. |
| 02:30.56 | cogwheel | probably last you 6 or more |
| 02:30.57 | clad|book | cogwheel: the WD has a five year |
| 02:31.06 | cogwheel | huh |
| 02:31.08 | clad|book | this enclosure looks nice, but doesn't appear to spin down when the machine powers down, which sucks: this enclosure looks nice, but doesn't appear to spin |
| 02:31.31 | clad|book | cogwheel: http://www.wdc.com/en/products/products.asp?driveid=242&language=en has a five year warranty |
| 02:31.35 | Thunder_Child | clad|book, something like http://www.pcconnection.com/ProductDetail?sku=456703&oext=1010A&srccode=cii_5784816&cpncode=08-30578749-2 ? |
| 02:31.45 | Lunessa | Anything powered on the USB line will have voltage constantly anyway. |
| 02:31.57 | Cidan | Do textures in WoW have to be in equal powers of two in resolution, or just in powers of two? |
| 02:32.12 | Kaydeethree | just powers of 2 iirc |
| 02:32.15 | clad|book | Cidan: no just powers of two on each side. |
| 02:32.19 | Cidan | kk |
| 02:32.43 | clad|book | Thunder_Child: that's around what I'm looking for.. what do you think of the icy dock one I linked? |
| 02:33.51 | Thunder_Child | does it come with an HD for that price? |
| 02:33.57 | clad|book | no |
| 02:34.06 | clad|book | its only $20.00 more than the one you just linked |
| 02:34.19 | clad|book | and the drive attaches to a tray that can be removed and swapped with another tray |
| 02:34.20 | Thunder_Child | "Price $229.99" |
| 02:34.27 | Thunder_Child | wrong link? |
| 02:34.30 | clad|book | oh yeah |
| 02:34.39 | clad|book | that's the western digital, and comes witha 500gb hard drive, and five year warranty |
| 02:34.49 | clad|book | http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817198012 was what i meant |
| 02:35.45 | Thunder_Child | nice |
| 02:36.01 | clad|book | that + a 500gb samsung drive would run me around $200 |
| 02:36.26 | Lunessa | clad|book: The Icy Dock one looks fragile |
| 02:36.29 | Kaydeethree | heh, so it did end up being a fmodex bug |
| 02:36.32 | Thunder_Child | any reason you want it to be hot swapable? |
| 02:36.44 | clad|book | no, no particular reason |
| 02:36.57 | clad|book | If you have one you've touched, used and had experience with.. that will trump anything I can find on the net :P |
| 02:37.16 | clad|book | This needs to travel to England with me.. and sit on my desk to hook up when necessary (ideally it will have a power switch) |
| 02:37.21 | Thunder_Child | no, i dont use them..i have purchased them for others but i dont use them myself |
| 02:38.27 | Lunessa | clad|book: Anything that travels internationally needs to be rugged. This can not be stressed enough. |
| 02:38.34 | Thunder_Child | hmm..well here it is in metal http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817198013 |
| 02:39.17 | Lunessa | I kid you not, I've had more crap broken by baggage handlers and airport security people than I care to think about. |
| 02:39.20 | Thunder_Child | nvm |
| 02:39.55 | clad|book | Lunessa: it will (ideally) fit in my laptop bag, so I dont have to deal with that |
| 02:40.12 | Lunessa | cool. |
| 02:40.44 | Thunder_Child | http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/searchtools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=31389&Sku=ULT31310&SRCCODE=PRICEGRABBER&CMP=OTC-PRICEGRABBER |
| 02:41.09 | clad|book | i was looking at that one |
| 02:41.14 | clad|book | its on sale at TD with a hard drive |
| 02:41.37 | cogwheel | haha "Taking euphemisms to a new level, Zipkin says: “we’re aware that people are having some variety in their experiences with Windows Vista.”" |
| 02:41.59 | Lunessa | lol |
| 02:42.58 | Thunder_Child | and you had better make sure they are the type you need, e.g. ide/sata |
| 02:43.18 | cogwheel | who uses PATA? |
| 02:43.21 | cogwheel | pfft |
| 02:44.00 | buu | So, dearest friends, is anyone familiar with a mod that will display giant warnings based on say, configurable events in the game? Sort of like boss mods I suppose, but perhaps triggering off enemy cast bars? |
| 02:44.08 | buu | Like, if the enemy you're fighting begins to cast fear.. |
| 02:44.35 | cogwheel | Soundtrack ... haven't heard about it in a long time so it might not've been updated for 2.0 |
| 02:44.50 | Kaydeethree | buu, spellalert |
| 02:44.51 | cogwheel | (well, it can do sounds anyway) |
| 02:44.53 | Kaydeethree | soundtrack <3 |
| 02:45.50 | clad|book | thanks Thunder_Child, have a bit more thinking to do |
| 02:45.59 | Thunder_Child | clad|book, np |
| 02:46.16 | buu | Kaydeethree: Mmmm, nifty. |
| 02:46.51 | buu | Kaydeethree: I find.. very old versions |
| 02:47.39 | Kaydeethree | I personally use SpellAlertSCT. it was updated back in december but it still works fine |
| 02:47.54 | Kaydeethree | there's another version called WitchHunt iic |
| 02:48.39 | Thunder_Child | pfft wireless....fail |
| 02:48.55 | Kaydeethree | I like it... watch anime and stuff from in bed |
| 02:49.05 | Wobwork | anime, eh |
| 02:49.08 | cogwheel | "anime" |
| 02:49.31 | Wobwork | if he had eyes? |
| 02:49.44 | cogwheel | if you hadn't... that would've been ... umm... yeah |
| 02:49.53 | Kaydeethree | hardly. porn in bed's a stupid move. |
| 02:50.18 | cogwheel | Oh look! Forums... |
| 02:50.30 | Cidan | I'll say it. |
| 02:50.34 | Cidan | Porn in bed rocks. |
| 02:50.55 | Wobwork | only if you're making it =) |
| 02:51.04 | Kaydeethree | I'll agree to that, wob |
| 02:53.28 | Lunessa | http://blog.wired.com/monkeybites/2007/08/microsoft-vista.html |
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| 02:54.25 | Lunessa | Finally reading the article cogwheel was. |
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| 03:11.10 | Lunessa | This is such a happening tail-pipe of a party. |
| 03:11.53 | Wobwork | ? |
| 03:15.46 | Shirik | something I never want to see in my SVN logs.... |
| 03:15.48 | Shirik | 14(2311:1411:4314) 14(1115CIA-714) Conspiracy: Started work on Hello Kitty theme. :D |
| 03:16.17 | Thunder_Child | guess who you need to blame |
| 03:16.29 | Kaydeethree | what the hell? |
| 03:16.37 | Shirik | 14(2311:1411:4314) 14(1115CIA-714) Conspiracy: 03cidan * r99 10/Conspiracy/Framework/ (Theme.lua Popup.lua Window.lua): |
| 03:17.19 | Cidan | :D |
| 03:17.27 | Cidan | Wait 'til I finish it |
| 03:17.37 | Cidan | it'll be greeaattt |
| 03:17.37 | Cidan | :D |
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| 03:18.12 | cogwheel | evening, Iriel |
| 03:18.42 | Thunder_Child | see, another person looking wierd waving at his monitor |
| 03:18.44 | cogwheel | this thread might warrant your attention :) http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=1272322797 |
| 03:18.49 | Thunder_Child | make that another 2 people |
| 03:18.51 | Cidan | Man, wait 'til I do the batman theme, :D |
| 03:19.46 | Cidan | also going to work on the "WoW" theme, so windows look like default warcraft frames |
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| 03:31.03 | Iriel | cogwheel: Thanks - replied. |
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| 04:16.03 | Chaotic_D | man...something's up. not only does my addon not always work with Cartographer, but when it stops working, LightHeaded can't use it either. :S and then I play the game for a while and... it starts working again. *blink* |
| 04:16.30 | clad|book | well you've still given me almost 0 details on "your addon", so I dunno what I can do to help without more info =/ |
| 04:17.12 | Chaotic_D | still... how could my addon stop Cartographer from working with LightHeaded if it's not overwriting any of Cartographer's functions? |
| 04:17.25 | clad|book | I have no idea.. its a black box to me |
| 04:17.26 | Chaotic_D | what do you mean "still"? |
| 04:17.47 | clad|book | I've asked for details since the beginning, and you've denied every single request, so I'm "still" waiting for details. |
| 04:17.49 | Chaotic_D | You asked before for some kind of thorough review? |
| 04:18.02 | clad|book | no, i want to know what the hell you're doing |
| 04:18.08 | clad|book | like i've asked 30 million times :P |
| 04:18.52 | Chaotic_D | I remember answering... but you don't seem to like the answer, so there must be more to it. |
| 04:19.08 | clad|book | I don't recall ever getting a straight answer |
| 04:19.17 | clad|book | I'm not very good at beating around the bush |
| 04:19.24 | Shirik | I don't know what this addon is either |
| 04:19.35 | Shirik | s/this/self/ |
| 04:19.46 | Thunder_Child | eh? |
| 04:19.46 | clad|book | I cannot help you, at all, if I can't see what you're doing. There are a thousand reasons Cart could stop working with your addon, or LightHeaded, or who knows what. |
| 04:19.54 | Thunder_Child | thats supposed to make more sence Shirik? |
| 04:20.02 | Shirik | "this" is evil |
| 04:20.05 | Shirik | You should use "self" |
| 04:20.05 | Thunder_Child | sense* |
| 04:20.09 | Chaotic_D | "my" addon is not mine. It's Tekkub's TourGuide, with a whole section added in to allow it to read new tags from the scripts and look up stuff in LightHeaded, and then point to stuff on the map. |
| 04:20.22 | clad|book | okay.. and why can't you show us the code? |
| 04:20.34 | Shirik | 14(0011:1511:5114) 14(1115Chaotic_D14) man...something's up. not only does my addon not always work with Cartographer, but when it stops working, LightHeaded can't use it either. :S and then I play the game for a while and... it starts working again. *blink* |
| 04:20.34 | Chaotic_D | because you never asked. :) |
| 04:20.38 | Shirik | you did say that it was yours :/ |
| 04:20.40 | clad|book | ... |
| 04:20.50 | clad|book | i'm not psychic. |
| 04:20.51 | clad|book | all the time. |
| 04:20.55 | clad|book | Thunder_Child: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817145656 thoughts? |
| 04:21.03 | clad|book | Thunder_Child: trynig to find something highly rated, and small |
| 04:22.06 | Chaotic_D | sorry for generalizing. it's mine in that this edited version is something I did, but I didn't get permission to do so. (although the author has told me he doesn't believe in copywrites, like Joana's guide or Brian Kopp's guide) |
| 04:22.51 | Thunder_Child | clad|book, no firewire |
| 04:22.53 | Chaotic_D | I dunno, where can I post it? |
| 04:23.03 | clad|book | lol good call |
| 04:23.04 | Thunder_Child | wowi.pastey.net |
| 04:23.24 | clad|book | what he said |
| 04:23.30 | clad|book | i think you showed me one like this: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817146604 |
| 04:24.38 | clad|book | hrm, that's a 2.5 that's bus powered |
| 04:24.42 | Chaotic_D | there's multiple files. or do I just post the most significant file, or just the part I edited, or what? |
| 04:24.42 | clad|book | that will limit capacity |
| 04:24.44 | clad|book | dernit |
| 04:24.58 | clad|book | What you changed.. i suppose. |
| 04:25.27 | Thunder_Child | and why 2.5? dont you want a standard 3.5 HD? |
| 04:25.34 | clad|book | yeah i didn't see that :P |
| 04:25.54 | clad|book | this is the 3.5 version http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817146602 |
| 04:27.21 | Chaotic_D | http://wowi.pastey.net/72931 |
| 04:27.31 | clad|book | i'm over the icy docks now.. the trays aren't necessary. |
| 04:27.39 | Thunder_Child | heh |
| 04:27.59 | clad|book | so i'm looking at any rated 5 stars on newegg right now. |
| 04:28.54 | Thunder_Child | ide or sata? |
| 04:28.55 | clad|book | no idea Chaotic_D *shrug* |
| 04:28.59 | clad|book | Thunder_Child: either is okay |
| 04:29.07 | Iriel | Anyone know if it's possible to make 'newer' nvidia cards work in a Mac Pro with OSX? |
| 04:29.07 | clad|book | sata would be nice, but not required. |
| 04:29.11 | Wobwork | "LightHeaded waypoints are not supported in this version of Cartographer_Waypoints." =P |
| 04:29.14 | Wobwork | They should update =P |
| 04:29.24 | clad|book | WobWork: you should upload to an addon site nub. |
| 04:29.27 | clad|book | the one on curse doesn't have the function. |
| 04:29.29 | Thunder_Child | Iriel, push really hard |
| 04:29.30 | Wobwork | Really? |
| 04:29.33 | clad|book | and EVERYONE uses it.. it causes so much headache. |
| 04:29.40 | Wobwork | Okies, I'll push ckk to update the version |
| 04:29.50 | Wobwork | I didn't realise he didn't roll out |
| 04:29.54 | Iriel | Thunder_Child: I said 'work' not 'fit' 8-) |
| 04:29.54 | clad|book | heh |
| 04:30.22 | Thunder_Child | oh...lazy bastard rogram it yourself |
| 04:30.30 | Chaotic_D | well, what actually happens is that it doesn't report that debug message. it goes through, but the waypoint doesn't go up. sometimes for a brief milisecond there's some odd glichty graphics where the arrow should be in the middle of the screen. |
| 04:30.31 | Thunder_Child | s/rogram/program/ |
| 04:31.07 | Wobwork | the glitchy arrow graphic is when it can't find a proper location |
| 04:31.35 | Wobwork | are you passing in the proper range of x/y? |
| 04:31.53 | Chaotic_D | it reports that it is. |
| 04:32.01 | Wobwork | I can't recall what clad asked for originally but it may be either [0-1] or [0-100] |
| 04:32.06 | Chaotic_D | the same quest steps that used to work just stop working. |
| 04:33.00 | Chaotic_D | I mean, there are links in LightHeaded that don't work. and later they do work. |
| 04:33.16 | Chaotic_D | hrm... I gotta make sure this is right. it's so much work. @_@; |
| 04:33.24 | clad|book | is the click handler getting called? |
| 04:34.08 | Thunder_Child | clad|book, http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817145154 |
| 04:34.32 | clad|book | why this one? |
| 04:34.56 | Thunder_Child | nothing in particular |
| 04:35.09 | clad|book | looking at: http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductReview.aspx?Item=N82E16817146602 |
| 04:35.21 | clad|book | includes spacers to dampen the vibration of the drive, looks nice, seems to have what i want so far |
| 04:35.28 | clad|book | and is expensive enough to not be a pos :P |
| 04:35.47 | Wobwork | clad|book: he's waiting til 2.2 to roll out the latest to the sites |
| 04:35.51 | clad|book | k |
| 04:36.13 | Thunder_Child | it doesnt give me a feeling of stability, but then with out playing with it i couldnt say for sure |
| 04:36.29 | Chaotic_D | BTW, I thought the map locations were like absolute, and that no two zones shared the same co-ordinates, but it seems like each zone has the same range. :( |
| 04:36.42 | clad|book | i've got five queued up that i'm looking at |
| 04:36.50 | Chaotic_D | I mean I thought they were world coordinates, not zone coordinates. |
| 04:37.01 | clad|book | they're both, technically |
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| 04:40.57 | Chaotic_D | they can't be world coordinates if you can't distinguish what zone they're from. |
| 04:41.09 | Chaotic_D | unless that's another variable passed. |
| 04:41.16 | clad|book | *sigh* |
| 04:41.23 | Chaotic_D | WHAT?! |
| 04:41.27 | clad|book | a coordinate consists of a continent, zone, x and y |
| 04:41.29 | clad|book | in astrolabe |
| 04:41.39 | clad|book | in order to have intelligent 0,100 coordinates for each zone |
| 04:41.54 | clad|book | both astrolabe and cartographer can handle them differently, using world coordinates, afaik |
| 04:42.47 | Chaotic_D | ok, because usually when I see coordinates, it's just X & Y. |
| 04:42.57 | clad|book | thats cause that's what users provide |
| 04:43.05 | clad|book | they could provide zone, continent but normally its not a bother. |
| 04:43.47 | Chaotic_D | I don't suppose there's a different format that the c,z,x,y can be converted to that's just x,y for the entire world, is there? |
| 04:43.57 | Chaotic_D | s/that/than |
| 04:44.00 | clad|book | they wouldn't be meaningful, no. |
| 04:44.11 | clad|book | yes, possible |
| 04:44.22 | clad|book | but if you expect users to see/use them, it won't ever really happen. |
| 04:44.35 | ckknight | Chaotic_D: you can with TouristLib |
| 04:45.14 | clad|book | ckknight: you can do it with a bunch of libs, the users are the issue :P |
| 04:45.15 | Chaotic_D | hrm... maybe this is why my addon is having problems. I think it only passes X & Y. |
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| 04:45.57 | Chaotic_D | ... wait a second. the TomTom and Cartographer_Waypoints functions... oh. TomTom only takes X&Y, Cartographer takes two additional variables. |
| 04:46.06 | clad|book | TomTom takes z,c,x,y |
| 04:46.07 | clad|book | always have |
| 04:46.08 | clad|book | has |
| 04:46.24 | Chaotic_D | TomTom:AddWaypoint(tonumber(x), tonumber(y), quest..", "..noteseg) |
| 04:46.26 | clad|book | they're different API functions |
| 04:46.46 | clad|book | local playerName = UnitName("player") |
| 04:46.46 | clad|book | function TomTom:Initialize() |
| 04:46.46 | clad|book | self.defaults = { |
| 04:46.47 | clad|book | profile = { |
| 04:46.47 | clad|book | clearwaypoints = true, |
| 04:46.47 | clad|book | show = true, |
| 04:46.49 | clad|book | lock = false, |
| 04:46.51 | clad|book | worldmap = true, |
| 04:46.53 | clad|book | cursor = true, |
| 04:46.55 | clad|book | tooltip = true, |
| 04:46.57 | clad|book | alpha = 1, |
| 04:46.57 | abug | pastey |
| 04:46.59 | clad|book | notes = { |
| 04:47.06 | Chaotic_D | >_<; |
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| 04:47.17 | Chaotic_D | "wrong window"? |
| 04:47.43 | clad|book | else |
| 04:47.45 | clad|book | self.Text:SetText(string.format("%d/%d/%.2f/%.2f", c, z, x*100, y*100)) |
| 04:47.47 | clad|book | end |
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| 04:49.31 | Wobwork | oh man clad =P |
| 04:49.35 | Wobwork | pastey =P |
| 04:49.49 | clad|book | how much of that came across |
| 04:49.51 | clad|book | sorry about that |
| 04:49.55 | clad|book | hastey copy/paste |
| 04:49.57 | Chaotic_D | hrm. don't suppose anyone knows off the top of their head where I can lookup zone #'s with their real names, eh? |
| 04:50.05 | clad|book | Chaotic_D: function TomTom:AddZWaypoint(c,z,x,y,desc,silent) |
| 04:50.09 | clad|book | yeah it was an accident |
| 04:50.18 | abug | you closed a table with an else statement |
| 04:50.41 | Wobwork | Chaotic_D: You can via the Blizzard API |
| 04:51.00 | Chaotic_D | because I just realized I'll have to script in the locations for... bah. screw that. I'll go back to auto-detecting NPCs through LightHeaded. I thought it was busted so I had just resigned myself to coding in the X,Y locs in the scripts. :S |
| 04:52.51 | Chaotic_D | too bad LightHeaded doesn't let you look up the quest start/end objects. like for Buzzbox ###, or Beached Sea [whatever]. |
| 04:53.13 | clad|book | that would be _yet_ another database |
| 04:53.19 | clad|book | and there are too many items that don't have static locations. |
| 04:53.22 | clad|book | in otherwords, I cba |
| 04:53.43 | Chaotic_D | ...can't be... "arsed"? |
| 04:53.46 | clad|book | yep |
| 04:54.07 | Chaotic_D | man, how can you put slang into an acronym? that's misleading. |
| 04:54.45 | Chaotic_D | I never understood "arsed". |
| 04:54.50 | Wobwork | cba is pretty typical =) |
| 04:55.01 | Shirik | imo clad|book should kick himself |
| 04:55.04 | Shirik | for spam |
| 04:55.08 | Wobwork | yeah |
| 04:55.09 | Shirik | evil clad|book |
| 04:55.16 | Chaotic_D | never heard it before. I just guessed, because I heard someone use that phrase recently. |
| 04:55.24 | *** mode/#wowi-lounge [+o clad|book] by ChanServ |
| 04:55.27 | *** kick/#wowi-lounge [Shirik!n=ncladhai@WoWUIDev/WoWI/Featured/Dongle/cladhaire] by clad|book (clad|book) |
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| 04:55.33 | clad|book | Shirik: no |
| 04:55.33 | Shirik | =( |
| 04:55.46 | ckknight | you kick people too often |
| 04:55.46 | Shirik | I don't have autorejoin on here |
| 04:55.47 | Shirik | bleh |
| 04:56.00 | Shirik | 14(0011:5511:1914) 14(1115purl14) You have 2 messages awaiting, from: josh_borke, joshborke (botmail read) |
| 04:56.01 | clad|book | Shirik: <3 |
| 04:56.07 | Shirik | I'm debating over whether or not I WANT to read those |
| 04:56.09 | Wobwork | rofl |
| 04:56.13 | Wobwork | I know whats in them =P |
| 04:56.36 | Shirik | I do too, without even looking |
| 04:56.44 | Shirik | it has something to do with acing RDX or something along those lines |
| 04:56.53 | Shirik | despite the fact that the RDX project has been terminated |
| 04:57.00 | ckknight | purl, botmail to Shirik: ( º Y º ) |
| 04:57.13 | Wobwork | <arnie>You haff been ERASED</arnie> |
| 04:57.20 | Shirik | anyway, night |
| 04:57.26 | Shirik|zZz | <3 clad|book |
| 04:58.16 | Wobwork | hehe Contra 4 |
| 04:58.30 | Wobwork | If I had a NDS I'd so get that |
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| 05:02.12 | Chaotic_D | Why does LightHeaded only send TomTom/Cartographer X & Y for loc? |
| 05:02.20 | clad|sleep | *sigh( |
| 05:02.23 | clad|sleep | it doesn't. |
| 05:02.30 | clad|sleep | 1.) user comments only come with x,y... so that's all i send |
| 05:02.38 | clad|sleep | 2.) npc locations have c,z,x,y, and I send all four of them. |
| 05:02.48 | Chaotic_D | ahhhh. -_-; |
| 05:02.50 | clad|sleep | 3.) I cannot magically infer what zone a user commenting on wowhead means when they type 45,55 |
| 05:03.29 | abug | out of pixie dust? |
| 05:03.48 | Chaotic_D | man, I should have searched more than once. it's right there. :S |
| 05:04.58 | clad|sleep | night all |
| 05:04.58 | Chaotic_D | goodnight. |
| 05:08.05 | Chaotic_D | I think added 12 hours to my playtime, and only went from right below level 18 to less than halfway to 20. :S (less than 1.5 levels) |
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| 05:09.18 | Chaotic_D | uhg. 17 hours played time. I'm so bad at this game. I just don't have the coordination to be really efficient, or do PVP. |
| 05:10.10 | Chaotic_D | I can't do that hunter trick where your pet fights one mob and you fight another. |
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| 05:13.54 | Aella | The Armory considers a char hybrid iff 3 * (tree2 - tree3) >= 2 * (tree1 - tree3) |
| 05:13.57 | Aella | Could someone put that in <http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=1272322263> for me? |
| 05:15.36 | Aella | Wish I could log into the forums. *unhappy* |
| 05:16.26 | abug | you use irc at work too? |
| 05:16.36 | Aella | Yeah, when I feel the need. |
| 05:16.41 | abug | rock on |
| 05:16.57 | Aella | I still want someone to post that >.> |
| 05:17.02 | Wobwork | man, who uses irc at work? |
| 05:17.04 | Wobwork | Slackers =P |
| 05:17.16 | abug | I'd post it but I don't know what to call you |
| 05:17.25 | Aella | I don't use irc at work, I use ircatwork. |
| 05:17.38 | Aella | <- Aella. |
| 05:18.06 | Wobwork | Chaotic_D: You have to learn to kite |
| 05:18.50 | Aella | Thanks. |
| 05:19.04 | Chaotic_D | I tried. it's impossible to get the timing right. |
| 05:19.23 | Wobwork | that's what wingclip is for |
| 05:19.32 | Chaotic_D | the ranged cooldown doesn't tell you when to stop moving. you're actually supposed to stop well in advance before it refreshes. |
| 05:19.35 | Wobwork | and, once you hit 20, you can use freezing trap if things get iffy |
| 05:19.41 | Aella | Aand I'm off to see the wizard... the wonderful wizard of SLEEP |
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| 05:19.46 | Chaotic_D | I tried wingclip. it never works. |
| 05:19.55 | Wobwork | you can spam it til it does |
| 05:20.00 | Wobwork | it's only a GCD |
| 05:20.08 | Chaotic_D | a what? |
| 05:20.13 | Wobwork | global cooldown |
| 05:20.15 | Wobwork | 1.5seconds |
| 05:20.26 | sag_ich_nicht | ... |
| 05:20.29 | sag_ich_nicht | Chaotic_D |
| 05:20.34 | sag_ich_nicht | lern2imp. wingclip |
| 05:20.34 | sag_ich_nicht | :O |
| 05:20.43 | Chaotic_D | imp? |
| 05:20.57 | Wobwork | chance to immobilise the target |
| 05:21.02 | Wobwork | completely |
| 05:21.04 | sag_ich_nicht | improved wingclip |
| 05:21.09 | Chaotic_D | oh. |
| 05:21.23 | Wobwork | also, if you're doing that, only grind on mobs of a lower level |
| 05:21.37 | Wobwork | make sure your melee weapon skill is high enough for the wingclip to hit |
| 05:21.58 | sag_ich_nicht | hunters without melee weapon skill=fail |
| 05:22.05 | Chaotic_D | eh. I just got weapon training, so they're all low level except for dagger. -_-; |
| 05:22.15 | Wobwork | train it up on something suitably low level |
| 05:22.24 | Wobwork | look for a mob that can heal itself |
| 05:22.33 | Wobwork | and just wail away at it to level up |
| 05:23.37 | Wobwork | Chaotic_D: basically, kiting is a skill you will -have- to learn =) |
| 05:23.42 | Wobwork | it's essential for a hunter |
| 05:23.47 | Wobwork | (for any class, really) |
| 05:23.53 | Corrodias | i don't advise that method for grinding, though |
| 05:23.54 | Chaotic_D | I see. thanks. hopefully that won't be too difficult to find. I did see some recently, but that was before I took a long trip away from that zone to Stormwind City. |
| 05:24.03 | Wobwork | aye |
| 05:24.03 | Corrodias | or for soloing unless you really have to do it that way |
| 05:24.05 | Chaotic_D | I didn't kite as a shaman. |
| 05:24.14 | Wobwork | Well you -can- |
| 05:24.24 | Wobwork | but it's usually easier to just burn the mob down |
| 05:24.32 | Wobwork | Hunters -need- to kite |
| 05:24.37 | Wobwork | cause their best dps is ranged |
| 05:24.39 | Corrodias | once i started to understand the hunter class, i realized that it's so much more complex, so much harder to use properly than my druid is |
| 05:24.41 | Chaotic_D | yeah. I liked playing a shaman so much better. |
| 05:25.03 | Wobwork | A whole lot more micromanagement =) |
| 05:25.07 | Chaotic_D | I just don't know if I have the coordination to play a hunter. |
| 05:25.08 | Wobwork | especially with a pet |
| 05:25.20 | Chaotic_D | I hate micromanagement. I never learned it in StarCraft. |
| 05:25.23 | Wobwork | It's not too hard, really |
| 05:25.34 | Wobwork | More really, it's sectional management |
| 05:25.55 | Wobwork | at 70, it's often, switching between trapping, pet attacks and ranged |
| 05:26.14 | Chaotic_D | you have to think about multiple mobs in addition to hitting more buttons. |
| 05:26.38 | Wobwork | you set your trap, grab your assigned, (and if you're coordinated enough, send in pet to kill skull) trap it, keep pet up while dpsing, retrap, retarget when first target is down, repeat |
| 05:26.44 | Chaotic_D | I don't know how the buttons are supposed to be set up. I always run out of slots. |
| 05:26.57 | Chaotic_D | do you not get traps until level 20? |
| 05:27.02 | Corrodias | well, for that, you HAVE to use macros |
| 05:27.06 | Wobwork | yeah |
| 05:27.10 | Wobwork | freezing trap at 20 |
| 05:27.12 | Corrodias | there just is no way to perform well in combat if you can't hit everything with keys |
| 05:27.49 | Wobwork | oh I use buttons for my stings/arcane/multi |
| 05:27.50 | Corrodias | my control+1-6 are for traps, alt+control+1-6 for stings, and numbers and shift+numbers for various other shots and activities |
| 05:28.02 | Corrodias | half of them do something different when i'm holding alt |
| 05:28.19 | Wobwork | I mean, they're all mapped to 1-6 |
| 05:28.23 | Wobwork | but I still mouseclick |
| 05:29.07 | Wobwork | I use hotkeys for KC, to Mark/petattack though |
| 05:29.44 | Chaotic_D | they need a horizontal scrollwheel below the spacebar, or for your feet, in place of mouse-turning, for WoW. because all these buttons need two hands, but movement with cursor keys sucks. |
| 05:30.04 | Wobwork | yeah, you -have- to learn to mouseturn |
| 05:30.27 | Wobwork | but you can one=hand 1-6 |
| 05:30.33 | Wobwork | and modifier1-6 |
| 05:30.44 | Corrodias | in fact, i was just about to start playing my hunter again |
| 05:30.53 | Chaotic_D | ctrl+alt+1-6 one-handed? :> |
| 05:31.06 | Wobwork | maybe a little more complex =) |
| 05:31.06 | Corrodias | well, i don't think i have 6 stings |
| 05:31.12 | Corrodias | more like ctrl+alt+1-4 |
| 05:31.16 | Wobwork | I can get 1-5 |
| 05:31.40 | Wobwork | nah, my problem with wasd is that it's out of synch with normal touchtyping |
| 05:31.47 | sag_ich_nicht | 1-6, and 7 if i have to. healspells are on 8-0, i don't need WASD when i heal |
| 05:31.51 | Wobwork | I should learn to rsdf |
| 05:32.08 | sag_ich_nicht | you mena rdfg? |
| 05:32.12 | Corrodias | yeah, i can comfortably reach alt+5 and shift+6 |
| 05:32.18 | Wobwork | no? |
| 05:32.26 | Wobwork | isn't f the home key? |
| 05:32.40 | sag_ich_nicht | yeah. |
| 05:32.48 | Wobwork | so why shift one more to the right? |
| 05:32.55 | Wobwork | same problem with wasd =) |
| 05:32.59 | sag_ich_nicht | you don't? |
| 05:33.23 | Wobwork | well, I'm saying I should use esdf so I don't have to shift out of touchtyping |
| 05:33.26 | sag_ich_nicht | then you mean esdf? |
| 05:33.30 | sag_ich_nicht | Wobwork |
| 05:33.35 | sag_ich_nicht | you typed rsdf |
| 05:33.37 | sag_ich_nicht | not esdf |
| 05:33.41 | sag_ich_nicht | :) |
| 05:33.45 | Wobwork | hehe |
| 05:33.47 | Wobwork | my bad |
| 05:35.08 | Wobwork | I <3 my hunter |
| 05:35.15 | Wobwork | combat traps were the best change ever |
| 05:35.21 | Wobwork | (aside from BM) |
| 05:35.46 | Chaotic_D | I wonder if the complexity of the hunter class gives it better results in combat... (I'm PVE) |
| 05:35.49 | Wobwork | I've been considering respeccing survival... |
| 05:35.56 | Chaotic_D | if not, I want an easier solo class. |
| 05:36.11 | Wobwork | Hunter is one of the best solo class |
| 05:36.13 | Wobwork | cause of the pet |
| 05:36.21 | Wobwork | Warlocks are the same once you hit 40 |
| 05:36.24 | Wobwork | for the draintanking |
| 05:36.48 | sag_ich_nicht | hunters can afk kill any non-elite mob if they are beastmaster |
| 05:36.51 | sag_ich_nicht | pet, autoshot, afk |
| 05:36.55 | Wobwork | s'true |
| 05:37.06 | Corrodias | each class brings something to the table to a raid. soloing, they can all hold their own. |
| 05:37.16 | Wobwork | except melee hunters |
| 05:37.20 | Wobwork | cause wtf? =) |
| 05:37.28 | Chaotic_D | ... I heard priests couldn't solo well either. |
| 05:37.38 | Wobwork | Shadowpriests can melt faces like nothing else |
| 05:37.40 | Corrodias | oh, i was having a blast on my priest at 43 |
| 05:37.41 | sag_ich_nicht | classes/specs that can not solo: |
| 05:37.48 | sag_ich_nicht | 1. Healpriest |
| 05:37.56 | Wobwork | Even holy priests with lolsmite can do pretty well |
| 05:38.03 | sag_ich_nicht | 2. Protectionwarriors |
| 05:38.09 | Wobwork | Resto druids |
| 05:38.20 | Wobwork | Prot Pallies |
| 05:38.23 | sag_ich_nicht | no |
| 05:38.25 | sag_ich_nicht | STOP RIGHT THERE |
| 05:38.30 | sag_ich_nicht | prot paladin can VERY well solo |
| 05:38.38 | sag_ich_nicht | AOE PULL SPAM SPAM SPAM INSTA LEVEL |
| 05:38.53 | Corrodias | oh hell yes. |
| 05:39.00 | Wobwork | kk true that |
| 05:39.02 | Corrodias | some paladins go prot for the purpose of soloing |
| 05:39.03 | Wobwork | what was I thinking? |
| 05:39.11 | Wobwork | I can't recall |
| 05:39.12 | sag_ich_nicht | you can pull half of elemental plateau as prot paladin and aoe down all of it |
| 05:39.23 | Wobwork | Maybe I meant single pull kills |
| 05:39.36 | Wobwork | cause aoe, they rule, natch |
| 05:39.42 | Wobwork | I hate having pally tanks as a hunter |
| 05:39.49 | Wobwork | it's impossible to peel off mobs for trapping |
| 05:39.49 | sag_ich_nicht | Wobwork why |
| 05:39.52 | sag_ich_nicht | lol |
| 05:40.07 | sag_ich_nicht | no, it's not |
| 05:40.09 | sag_ich_nicht | lern2play |
| 05:40.15 | Wobwork | I can sit there and aimshot/distractshot/arcaneshot and they still don't shift =P |
| 05:40.16 | sag_ich_nicht | you peel the mob off BEFORE the paladin pulls |
| 05:40.20 | Wobwork | well of course |
| 05:40.22 | sag_ich_nicht | hunters pull |
| 05:40.31 | Chaotic_D | I wish it was easier to figure out how to play this game. :( |
| 05:40.33 | Wobwork | but if you're trying to do otherwise |
| 05:40.34 | sag_ich_nicht | if you have a hunter, the hunter pulls. everyone who tells you something else is a moron. |
| 05:40.47 | Wobwork | Oh I don't mind if a warrior pulls |
| 05:41.20 | sag_ich_nicht | distraction shot > body pull |
| 05:41.26 | sag_ich_nicht | erm |
| 05:41.33 | sag_ich_nicht | -distraction +misdirection |
| 05:41.34 | Wobwork | misdirect |
| 05:41.34 | sag_ich_nicht | -.- |
| 05:41.45 | Wobwork | of course, but majority of the time it's not worth the effort if the tank is good |
| 05:42.05 | Chaotic_D | I can't just intuit how to do things properly. I mean I played a Horde shaman up to level 46 and I never learned how to level properly, or what combat strategies there were other than the basic timing changes figured out of the basic moves. |
| 05:42.06 | Wobwork | why make the pull more complex if it's not needed? |
| 05:42.07 | sag_ich_nicht | question, can you misdirection+distraction and the distraction aggro adds to the tank aggro? :O |
| 05:42.14 | Wobwork | yes |
| 05:42.20 | sag_ich_nicht | nice. |
| 05:42.40 | sag_ich_nicht | >:O |
| 05:42.41 | Wobwork | Chaotic_D: You need to instance more =) |
| 05:43.09 | Wobwork | Group with similar classed people in instances |
| 05:43.19 | Wobwork | see how they work and emulate them if it appears to be working |
| 05:43.35 | Chaotic_D | Wobwork: that would require PUGing (a term I just learned) or finding a guild. I'm so bad with people. |
| 05:43.40 | Wobwork | hehe FD hardly ever resists |
| 05:43.44 | sag_ich_nicht | Chaotic_D guess you never played an MMO before? |
| 05:43.49 | sag_ich_nicht | *a |
| 05:43.55 | sag_ich_nicht | actually, *an |
| 05:43.57 | Chaotic_D | no, I played lots of MMOs. |
| 05:43.58 | Wobwork | yeah |
| 05:43.59 | Wobwork | an =) |
| 05:44.17 | Chaotic_D | EverQuest. (never got a guild that actually did anything. solo play beyond a certain level was painful. I quit.) |
| 05:44.27 | sag_ich_nicht | lol EQ |
| 05:44.34 | Chaotic_D | Phantasy Star Online. (no grouping required. action-RPG) |
| 05:44.52 | Wobwork | I reckon grouping is an essential part of any MMO |
| 05:44.57 | Chaotic_D | Saga of Ryzom. found a guild by chance. we did stuff. |
| 05:45.02 | Wobwork | You might as well be playing an offline game otherwise |
| 05:45.12 | sag_ich_nicht | yes |
| 05:45.27 | Wobwork | and a good pug is a wonder to behold =) |
| 05:45.34 | sag_ich_nicht | no, it's not |
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| 05:45.40 | sag_ich_nicht | if it has a good leader |
| 05:45.42 | Wobwork | the bad pugs? well, the less said the better =) |
| 05:45.46 | Chaotic_D | my Ryzom guild was pretty good. I think we could do almost anything. but we were still small. |
| 05:45.54 | sag_ich_nicht | you find friends over pugs |
| 05:45.58 | Wobwork | it's true |
| 05:46.09 | sag_ich_nicht | and possibly a guild |
| 05:46.18 | sag_ich_nicht | the thing you have to do, is not just invite everyone |
| 05:46.22 | Chaotic_D | I'm just... very... very... very inexperienced with the social stuff. |
| 05:46.30 | sag_ich_nicht | Chaotic_D how old are you |
| 05:46.34 | Wobwork | Chaotic_D: http://bigredkitty.blogspot.com is a good hunter blog for hunter tricks and tactics |
| 05:46.35 | Corrodias | inexperienced? |
| 05:46.39 | Chaotic_D | 29, I think. |
| 05:46.45 | sag_ich_nicht | wow. |
| 05:46.53 | Corrodias | careful, Wobwork, that might be too much to handle right off the bat! |
| 05:46.58 | Wobwork | aye possibly |
| 05:47.13 | Wobwork | it's certainly a large amount of information |
| 05:47.17 | Chaotic_D | age isn't a good indicator of anything. |
| 05:47.26 | Corrodias | i think i can slip right back into my hunter with minimal pain |
| 05:47.52 | Wobwork | I dunno, I keep trying to hit Feign Death on my rogue =P |
| 05:47.56 | Corrodias | i tried switching to a ravager, but i simply MUST have my cat back, so i'm going to have to level the pet a little bit. that's okay, though, because i want to get some instance experience before continuing with quests, anyway |
| 05:48.01 | Corrodias | i need more trapping practice |
| 05:48.12 | Wobwork | trapping is so much fun =) |
| 05:48.25 | Wobwork | I try to get them in the most inaccessible locations within the instance |
| 05:48.28 | Wobwork | and pose them |
| 05:48.34 | Wobwork | for aesthetics |
| 05:48.50 | sag_ich_nicht | Chaotic_D not to be an ass or anything, but if you're that old and can't deal with people in basic social interaction, you might have a Social anxiety disorder or something similiar >.> |
| 05:49.00 | Chaotic_D | did they already change trapping so you can do it during battle? since BC exp? |
| 05:49.08 | Wobwork | yep |
| 05:49.22 | Chaotic_D | that's one problem gone. |
| 05:49.22 | sag_ich_nicht | 2 seconds aim time, then they are ready to trap something |
| 05:49.33 | Corrodias | chain-trapping with freezing traps is now a skill required to consider yourself a good hunter |
| 05:49.36 | Wobwork | it means that a hunter, with good timing, and good sense of location/line of sight, can chain trap indefinitely |
| 05:49.52 | sag_ich_nicht | s/hunter/survival hunter/ |
| 05:49.57 | Wobwork | nope |
| 05:49.59 | Wobwork | any hunter |
| 05:50.11 | Wobwork | BeastLord set bonus helps |
| 05:50.12 | sag_ich_nicht | too much resist chance :O |
| 05:50.31 | Chaotic_D | sag_ich_nicht: re: disorder. eh. sure. |
| 05:50.40 | Wobwork | Since we're the only CC that can effectively trap the majority of mobs, and do so repeatedly. it's an essential skill to end up with |
| 05:51.04 | sag_ich_nicht | Chaotic_D i'm serious, you are reffering to social interaction as "the social stuff", like it's some akward unknown monster or something |
| 05:51.24 | Corrodias | you're talking to people via IRC. what more is there to know? |
| 05:51.25 | Chaotic_D | it's not the only problem I have, and it's not really anything new to me. |
| 05:51.53 | Corrodias | don't take items unannounced and don't act like a jackass and people mostly consider you normal |
| 05:51.55 | Chaotic_D | talking to people on the internet does not take a lot of skill. |
| 05:52.12 | sag_ich_nicht | actually, it does, but that's besides the point |
| 05:53.18 | Chaotic_D | well, it does if you have serious problems, like if you've got autism or you're developmentally challenged. I'm just mid-range. I function at a level where most people just think I'm really strange or annoying, because I seem like I'm normal but I keep screwing up. |
| 05:53.23 | sag_ich_nicht | i mean if you really have problems with social interaction there are ways to help you, but i'll stop now, i might as well be wrong and you're just shy :P |
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| 05:54.18 | Chaotic_D | yeah. wowi-lounge isn't the place to solve gaming problems with psychological and/or medical advice/solutions. :> |
| 05:54.59 | sag_ich_nicht | not like i am capable of doing that, that'd lie in the hands of a professional |
| 05:55.10 | Wobwork | Lrn2correctchemicalimbalances? |
| 05:55.17 | Chaotic_D | -_-; |
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| 05:55.33 | Chaotic_D | Wobwork: too wordy for an internet catchphrase. |
| 05:55.43 | Wobwork | yeah =( |
| 05:55.50 | Wobwork | lrn2notcrazy mebbe |
| 05:56.08 | Chaotic_D | nah. internet would just say lrn2notemo |
| 05:56.13 | Wobwork | hehe |
| 05:56.36 | Chaotic_D | in the internet's eyes, psychology is nothing but emo crap. |
| 05:56.46 | sag_ich_nicht | no. |
| 05:57.12 | Chaotic_D | it is. the majority of people on the internet can not distinguish between legitimate psychological problems and "emo". |
| 05:57.33 | Chaotic_D | ah well. it's the internet. limited communication both ways. |
| 05:57.35 | sag_ich_nicht | ...the majority of people on the internet are also complete fuckwads. |
| 05:57.48 | Wobwork | On the internet, nobody knows you're a dog. |
| 05:58.18 | Chaotic_D | figuratively, or literally? :> |
| 05:58.29 | Wobwork | <.< |
| 05:58.31 | Wobwork | >.> |
| 05:58.43 | Wobwork | "woof?" |
| 05:58.54 | Wobwork | </gaspode> |
| 05:59.13 | sag_ich_nicht | ~slap Wobwork |
| 05:59.14 | purl | ACTION slaps Wobwork, keep your grubby fingers to yourself! |
| 05:59.17 | sag_ich_nicht | erm |
| 05:59.18 | sag_ich_nicht | no. |
| 05:59.21 | sag_ich_nicht | ~whaleslap Wobwork |
| 05:59.22 | purl | ACTION beats Wobwork upside and over the head with a freakishly huge killer whale named Hugh |
| 05:59.26 | sag_ich_nicht | :O |
| 05:59.29 | abug | ~whaleparry purl |
| 05:59.29 | purl | ACTION uses a slightly less-huge but eminently more agile killer whale named Edwardo to parry purl's attacks. |
| 05:59.30 | Wobwork | ~whaleparry sag_ich_nicht |
| 05:59.31 | purl | ACTION uses a slightly less-huge but eminently more agile killer whale named Edwardo to parry sag_ich_nicht's attacks. |
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| 05:59.54 | sag_ich_nicht | oh geez |
| 05:59.56 | sag_ich_nicht | okay fine |
| 05:59.59 | Corrodias | to my eye, WoW doesn't have much lasting appeal without other players |
| 05:59.59 | Wobwork | hehe |
| 06:00.02 | sag_ich_nicht | you didn't want it any other way |
| 06:00.02 | Wobwork | ~whalefu |
| 06:00.03 | purl | Whalefu is an ancient irc fighting style of unknown origin that was mastered and extended by Neronix |
| 06:00.09 | sag_ich_nicht | ~whalenuke Wobwork |
| 06:00.10 | purl | ACTION dons his radiation cloak and tinted glasses while a highly intelligent whale named Ray precipitates critical mass for uncontrolled nuclear fission around Wobwork with his mind powers |
| 06:00.18 | Wobwork | ~whaleshield sag_ich_nicht |
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| 06:00.25 | Wobwork | aw =) |
| 06:00.29 | Wobwork | they dropped that |
| 06:00.36 | Chaotic_D | I think the key for my psychological problems is going to be gaining ego. That's where a human's control is built on from birth. until then, I think I'm resigned to playing a hunter like a noob, and leveling slowly. -_-; |
| 06:01.08 | sag_ich_nicht | Chaotic_D /r/eq. armory link |
| 06:01.12 | sag_ich_nicht | -/r/ |
| 06:01.12 | sag_ich_nicht | >< |
| 06:01.14 | sag_ich_nicht | +r |
| 06:01.18 | sag_ich_nicht | stupid habbit |
| 06:01.19 | abug | your id needs to play too |
| 06:01.29 | Chaotic_D | maybe I can still get to level 60 in a month. |
| 06:01.45 | Corrodias | well sure, it's possible to play solo with a hunter extremely effectively |
| 06:01.48 | Chaotic_D | on only casual play. this 6-12 hours of play in a day is just too much. |
| 06:02.00 | sag_ich_nicht | armory gimme |
| 06:02.04 | Corrodias | and you never really have to learn to be a good hunter to solo decently |
| 06:02.06 | Wobwork | There is a stupid amount of hunters on my server |
| 06:02.12 | Wobwork | s/server/time zone/ |
| 06:02.23 | _art3mis | http://jobsearch.monster.ca/getjob.asp?JobID=61826448&aid=20474574-3087&WT.mc_n=MKT000125 |
| 06:02.30 | Wobwork | mostly due to the fact it's easier to solo with, and getting parties is so difficult |
| 06:03.07 | Wobwork | art3mis: looks pretty good |
| 06:03.12 | Wobwork | remuneration wise =) |
| 06:03.24 | Chaotic_D | what's to learn from the armory? I'm a little reluctant to share my in-game ID. |
| 06:03.40 | Chaotic_D | my real life psychological profile however is an open book. |
| 06:03.42 | Wobwork | sag_ich_nicht: Probably not going to get much |
| 06:03.48 | Wobwork | not from a level 19 character |
| 06:03.53 | sag_ich_nicht | oh noes we know your character name we will invade your server and flame you to death! |
| 06:03.57 | sag_ich_nicht | ...not. |
| 06:04.08 | Corrodias | here's where my hunter is heading: http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=cxbG0gxRwuAoVxbR |
| 06:04.40 | sag_ich_nicht | just interest Chaotic_D, since you said you said you had problems with doing the whole l2p thing, i figured i might as well help you with it :P |
| 06:04.41 | Corrodias | some would say that skipping mortal shots is silly |
| 06:04.50 | Wobwork | yeah =) |
| 06:04.51 | Wobwork | possibly |
| 06:04.55 | Wobwork | intending to raid? |
| 06:04.56 | Corrodias | i did the math and was unimpressed by a probably 3.6% dps increase for 5 points |
| 06:05.15 | Corrodias | at least, not as impressed as what else i could get for those 5 |
| 06:05.22 | Corrodias | good god, i suck |
| 06:05.28 | Corrodias | *not as impressed by that as by what else |
| 06:05.36 | Corrodias | *unimpressed by a probable 3.6% |
| 06:05.57 | Chaotic_D | well, I'm currently on the free trial for... 1 more day. then going to plug in my auth. code. (hopefully the online store I bought this opened copy from, who claimed it had unused auth. codes, is legit) |
| 06:06.00 | Corrodias | raiding = i'd like to say yes. i don't know if i'll ever actualyl take him in a raid, but i want to. |
| 06:06.12 | sag_ich_nicht | lol |
| 06:06.52 | Chaotic_D | they mailed the product. it's not just online. they had lots of feedback. and they specified the codes were unregistered. |
| 06:07.07 | Corrodias | well, let us know how it goes |
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| 06:07.47 | Chaotic_D | I don't know if technically Blizzard has a problem with that. I suspect it's nowhere near even the level of gold farmers who DON'T advertise in-game. |
| 06:09.06 | Chaotic_D | I actually got an in-game advertisement. :S group invite, game guide ad, disband group. |
| 06:09.14 | Corrodias | selling keys without the physical box? i don't think they care about that |
| 06:09.19 | Chaotic_D | I don't know if I should have reported that... |
| 06:10.39 | Corrodias | the answer is yes, really |
| 06:11.54 | Chaotic_D | well technically they don't want people selling used copies of the game. they will let you transfer ownership of the game, both physical property and ownership of the account, but they don't want you selling it. |
| 06:12.36 | Corrodias | actually, i don't think you can transfer accounts |
| 06:13.06 | sag_ich_nicht | you can, but only if the last name of the account holders is the same |
| 06:13.09 | sag_ich_nicht | ~_~ |
| 06:13.10 | purl | :/ |
| 06:13.17 | sag_ich_nicht | shaddup, purl |
| 06:14.46 | Chaotic_D | whah? well, maybe not the account, but the authorization codes, which lets you create an account. they just don't want the previous owner to play any more, and they don't want anyone profitting off virtual stuff. |
| 06:14.54 | Corrodias | purl, yiff |
| 06:14.54 | purl | yiff is, like, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yiff |
| 06:15.17 | Corrodias | i'm not aware that an account creation code can be used more than once |
| 06:15.40 | Corrodias | but the point is, i don't think they will -actually- care where the code came from that activates an account |
| 06:15.58 | Corrodias | it should work fine as long as it hasn't been used before |
| 06:15.59 | Chaotic_D | you can't delete your account and then the person you transfer the game to can then create a new account without you having to give them your credit card number? |
| 06:16.14 | sag_ich_nicht | what. |
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| 06:16.29 | Chaotic_D | meh. nevermind. it doesn't matter. |
| 06:16.32 | sag_ich_nicht | no, you can NOT resell the game. the auth code is used up and gone. |
| 06:16.34 | Corrodias | as far as i'm aware, you can't delete accounts |
| 06:16.42 | sag_ich_nicht | actually, you can |
| 06:16.49 | sag_ich_nicht | if you really bug blizzard about it |
| 06:17.38 | Iriel | It still wont re-activate the code that created the account tho |
| 06:17.46 | sag_ich_nicht | yeah |
| 06:17.59 | Chaotic_D | seems pointless. unless... you wanted the character names, after you had bought a second copy and didn't want to renew your previous copy. or the example I used where you give your game to someone else. |
| 06:18.13 | sag_ich_nicht | it has a point |
| 06:18.15 | sag_ich_nicht | MAKING MORE PROFIT |
| 06:18.26 | Corrodias | you can give your CD to somebody else, but they can't make an account with it |
| 06:18.38 | sag_ich_nicht | hey there iriel. care to punch someone into updating sprocket? :P |
| 06:18.43 | Corrodias | once characters are deleted, the names are available again, yes? |
| 06:19.19 | sag_ich_nicht | ...then it will never happen. |
| 06:19.21 | sag_ich_nicht | D: |
| 06:20.28 | sag_ich_nicht | but maybe you could tell me what parts of the state headers/secure templets where aimed at sprocket being able to be revived? :O |
| 06:20.45 | sag_ich_nicht | *templates |
| 06:20.55 | Iriel | The pie header |
| 06:21.01 | Iriel | and the up down header, IIRC |
| 06:21.30 | sag_ich_nicht | ... |
| 06:21.33 | Chaotic_D | it's difficult to play WoW and not let your body decay. it demands a lot of time. |
| 06:22.00 | sag_ich_nicht | should have kinda seen it |
| 06:22.12 | sag_ich_nicht | (no, i'm NOT volunteering to rewrite it :P) |
| 06:23.34 | art3mis | so i got bored |
| 06:23.44 | Wobwork | uhoh |
| 06:23.50 | art3mis | http://www.gothi.ca/Stuff/hellokitty-ui.jpg |
| 06:23.52 | sag_ich_nicht | art3mis rewrite sprocket! |
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| 06:24.38 | sag_ich_nicht | jesus christ art3mis |
| 06:24.44 | art3mis | i think ill submit it for the default paladin ui |
| 06:24.46 | sag_ich_nicht | YOU FUCKED UP THE ASPECT RATIO D: |
| 06:25.05 | art3mis | yeah one sec actually |
| 06:25.42 | sag_ich_nicht | also needs more pink in the fubar |
| 06:25.56 | Chaotic_D | if LightHeaded:LoadNPCData(NPCID) then for c,z,x,y in LightHeaded:IterateNPCLocs(NPCID) do |
| 06:26.33 | art3mis | there we go refresh proper aspect |
| 06:26.34 | Chaotic_D | do I have to make two sets of c,z,x,y to get the data out of there? I seem to recall you can't just call it once, or pull the data from the last iteration out... |
| 06:26.46 | art3mis | laugh why ya sobbing cairenn? |
| 06:27.51 | Chaotic_D | first and last iterations give you nil values, right? |
| 06:27.56 | Corrodias | i wonder if Amazon.com takes personal checkes |
| 06:28.03 | Corrodias | checks. cheques. |
| 06:28.14 | Chaotic_D | cakes. |
| 06:28.22 | Corrodias | cacks |
| 06:28.29 | Chaotic_D | cactus |
| 06:28.33 | Chaotic_D | cactuar |
| 06:28.57 | bleeter | I love it when I'm right... even if I thought I was prolly wrong |
| 06:29.01 | bleeter | s/eve/particularly/ |
| 06:29.09 | bleeter | s/yn/y/ |
| 06:29.47 | Chaotic_D | still using the old line? |
| 06:29.48 | art3mis | Cairenn|afk: its beautiful aint it ;P |
| 06:30.41 | bleeter | anyone know if there's yet another PTR out? I'm kinda expecting a new fmodex.dll ;) |
| 06:31.18 | Iriel | bleeter: There is a new patch |
| 06:31.24 | bleeter | we ran the vendor's example 3d.exe app under wine... it blew up in our faces ;) |
| 06:31.37 | Iriel | 0.2.0-7187 |
| 06:31.51 | bleeter | Iriel: got a datestamp on the fmodex.dll? |
| 06:32.02 | Iriel | I'm on a mac, will I have one? 8-) |
| 06:32.17 | Chaotic_D | I see macros with /target /cast auto shot /petattack. is there a way to make autoshot and petattack conditional on targetting the proper mob? |
| 06:32.59 | Iriel | bleeter: Negative, let me fire my PC back up |
| 06:33.26 | bleeter | to quote wine's dsound maintainer... |
| 06:33.30 | bleeter | "> |
| 06:33.30 | bleeter | "> Running the tests, it seems '3d.exe' is the culprit. It does the |
| 06:33.30 | bleeter | > LoadLibrary(dsound) enumerate, toy some with caps for every listed |
| 06:33.30 | bleeter | > device. FreeLibrary(dsound), then enumerate again on the freed library. |
| 06:33.38 | bleeter | I wonder why that even works in windows, doesn't seem like a legal move |
| 06:33.39 | bleeter | > to me. |
| 06:34.27 | Corrodias | Chaotic_D: depends on what you define as the "proper mob" |
| 06:36.17 | Chaotic_D | well... if it actually selects a target. |
| 06:36.36 | Chaotic_D | hrm... well I guess there would be no harm if it didn't. |
| 06:37.08 | Corrodias | can't attack something that's not there |
| 06:37.09 | Iriel | Chaotic_D: You can probably just tack an 'exists' in there |
| 06:37.34 | Chaotic_D | I'm just trying to imagine how it could screw up. perhaps if you already had a mob targetted and accidentally hit this macro, and then started attacking this one. perhaps in the middle of a raid. :> |
| 06:38.16 | Corrodias | well, don't go targetting mobs and hitting the attack macro when you don't want to attack them. :D |
| 06:38.35 | Iriel | bleeter: fmodex.dll 0.4.7.20 August 06 2007, 10:22PM |
| 06:38.38 | Chaotic_D | what if your finger slips? |
| 06:38.54 | bleeter | Iriel: thanks, sounds old.. but I'll double-test it |
| 06:39.04 | Wobwork | Then you need to move your button =) |
| 06:39.13 | Chaotic_D | :S |
| 06:39.33 | Corrodias | i'd say, slam the escape key to cancel your attacks, press the button that sets your pet back to follow, and announce in vent that you broke crowd control or something so the person responsible knows they need to fix it |
| 06:39.39 | Corrodias | *responsible for that mob |
| 06:39.41 | Wobwork | A typical response is often: "Oh damn, I need to move my Xspell away from my YspellthatIcastallthetime" |
| 06:40.30 | Corrodias | everyone will make mistakes. what determines success in the raid, therefore, is everyone's ability to minimize them and adapt to them |
| 06:41.04 | Chaotic_D | raids seem like machines. you just conform to the plan and don't deviate. |
| 06:41.14 | Wobwork | hehe never happen |
| 06:41.21 | Wobwork | Stuff will always go wrong |
| 06:41.27 | Wobwork | some mob will resist taunt |
| 06:41.32 | Wobwork | some mob will resist trap/sheep |
| 06:41.36 | Wobwork | etc etc |
| 06:41.50 | Wobwork | it's the adaptability of the raid that determines how good it is |
| 06:42.11 | Corrodias | the idea is to get a plan and stick to it, with the ability to adapt to changing situations |
| 06:42.29 | Wobwork | If you, as a hunter, are on the ball enough to see a squishy getting beaten up on, and noone responding, and send your pet to offtank it, you're being flexible |
| 06:42.44 | Wobwork | (while still doing whatever job you're currently assigned) |
| 06:43.23 | Wobwork | Or a rogue can try and blind it, mage nova it, warlock fear it, etc to keep it busy enough for the proper tank to pick it back up |
| 06:43.26 | Chaotic_D | I'm not adaptable. things go wrong, I die. |
| 06:43.34 | Wobwork | You'll learn =) |
| 06:43.37 | bleeter | just confirming, the latest update doesn't contain an expected fmodex.dll fix, but the firelight guy is @ blizz all this week, so we still have hope ;) |
| 06:43.42 | Corrodias | i might recommend a different class for you, then |
| 06:43.46 | Corrodias | let me think |
| 06:43.49 | Chaotic_D | :D |
| 06:44.02 | Wobwork | Shammy? |
| 06:44.34 | Wobwork | shadowpriest? |
| 06:44.36 | Chaotic_D | I liked playing shaman. |
| 06:44.36 | Corrodias | a possibility. rogue, mage, even warlock. not hunter. |
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| 06:44.50 | Wobwork | rogue is nice |
| 06:45.06 | Wobwork | relatively easy, with a well defined job |
| 06:45.11 | Corrodias | being a good hunter demands a lot more of the player in terms of knowing what's going on and being able to fix problems as they arise |
| 06:45.16 | art3mis | he's like a combination of gumby and hercules! |
| 06:45.17 | Chaotic_D | how are druids? I tried one a little bit... seemed a little more complicated than shaman. |
| 06:45.26 | Wobwork | druids are complicated =) |
| 06:45.26 | art3mis | gumbercules?!?! I LOVE THAT GUY! |
| 06:45.32 | Corrodias | chain trapping is especially tricky in this regard. sometimes your traps WILL be resisted and you have to be able to deal with it. |
| 06:45.56 | Wobwork | either by tanking (if you have a few seconds left on cooldown) or fding before the healer heals you |
| 06:45.59 | Corrodias | druids can be, depending on how they're played |
| 06:46.16 | Wobwork | Well, druids, being hybrids have a larger range of options available to them for any situation |
| 06:46.19 | Chaotic_D | I hear they can tank better than rogues. |
| 06:46.25 | Wobwork | oh totally |
| 06:46.32 | Wobwork | feral tanks are fantastic |
| 06:46.39 | Corrodias | mine is a tank (not a good choice for someone who isn't highly adaptable) |
| 06:46.53 | Corrodias | being a cat is easier than being a rogue, as far as i know. at least, it's simpler. |
| 06:47.09 | Wobwork | well, there's less choice of skills |
| 06:47.24 | Corrodias | i have the choice of mangle from the front or shred from the back. from what i can tell, rogues have to choose weapon specs that emphasize certain styles of play. |
| 06:47.26 | Wobwork | manglemanglemanglemanglemangle =) |
| 06:47.34 | Chaotic_D | my best friend had a warrior and a rogue. boy, rogue seemed like an odd job. |
| 06:47.40 | Wobwork | rogue is a lot of fun |
| 06:47.42 | Chaotic_D | er, I should say level 60 warrior and rogue. |
| 06:48.06 | Wobwork | you have a lot of special attacks and a range of 'finishing moves' |
| 06:48.15 | Wobwork | that you can unleash depending on the situation |
| 06:48.23 | Wobwork | eg, pally tank, you can use expose armor |
| 06:48.45 | Wobwork | otherwise you eviscerate or rupture or SlicenDice (for more dps) |
| 06:48.45 | Corrodias | for a druid, that's "rip unless it's bleed immune or near death; otherwise bite" |
| 06:49.02 | Wobwork | or Kidney Shot if there's trouble/casting |
| 06:49.16 | Corrodias | rogues certainly have a much larger bag of tricks than cats |
| 06:49.35 | Wobwork | you can interrupt spells a few ways, Kidney Shot, Kick and thingie... |
| 06:49.51 | Chaotic_D | deedle-deedle-deedle-dee! |
| 06:50.09 | sag_ich_nicht | [08:43] <bleeter> just confirming, the latest update doesn't contain an expected fmodex.dll fix, but the firelight guy is @ blizz all this week, so we still have hope ;) <--firelight guy? |
| 06:50.25 | bleeter | sag_ich_nicht: fmodex.dll lead programmer ;) |
| 06:50.34 | Wobwork | Gouge =) |
| 06:50.47 | sag_ich_nicht | also, i suggest you report this behavior of 3d.exe and for that matter fmodx in general on the PTR forums, since the same behaviour happens on windows and is probably illegal(but works anyway) |
| 06:51.21 | sag_ich_nicht | bleeter: from where do you know that? :O |
| 06:51.43 | Chaotic_D | I wonder if I can adequately (as opposed to efficiently) play a hunter better than I adequately play a shaman... |
| 06:51.46 | bleeter | sag_ich_nicht: I opened a direct discussion this morning with the authors of fmodex.dll, after initially brushing us Winers aside as an unsuported platform, after two or three more exchanges, we were pointed at the fmodex test suite from their public API |
| 06:52.18 | bleeter | sag_ich_nicht: when we ran the sample 3d.exe program under wine, it blew up in our faces in exactly the same way we see WoW 2.2 do it, and the same way we see reports of Eve Online and Red Ocean do it |
| 06:52.21 | sag_ich_nicht | bleeter: where did you do that? mailed firelight directly? |
| 06:52.56 | art3mis | hehe posted it to that girly ui thread ;P |
| 06:53.02 | bleeter | sag_ich_nicht: the wine dsound guy then gave a description of the operations we were seeing occurring, and the firelight chappy pretty much admitted that although what he had worked - it probably shouldn't be working and would adjust his code accordingly |
| 06:53.09 | krka | wtf: http://www.betanews.com/article/Evidence_of_Microsoft_Influencing_OOXML_Votes_in_Nordic_States/1188335569 |
| 06:53.15 | Chaotic_D | I like shaman. lay down totems depending on how much mana you're spending, lightning bolt, lightning bolt, alternate between flame shock and earth shock to keep the DOT on, and lightning shields. |
| 06:53.35 | Wobwork | krka hehe yeah |
| 06:53.51 | sag_ich_nicht | bleeter: nice... now how did you contact them? mail firelight direclty? |
| 06:53.52 | bleeter | sag_ich_nicht: yup, direct email. last night the WoW fmodex bugzilla entry was tagged with duplicates of EO and RO. The RO BT also pointed at fmodex, so I figured it was time to mail them direct ;) |
| 06:53.56 | Chaotic_D | I only use totems if I'm fighting a hard mob. |
| 06:54.22 | sag_ich_nicht | hah |
| 06:54.29 | Corrodias | what is this fmodex.dll? |
| 06:54.35 | Corrodias | who is firelight? o.o |
| 06:54.46 | sag_ich_nicht | bleeter: i bet fixing this also fixes quite a bit of the buggy behaviour of 2.2 under vista |
| 06:54.49 | sag_ich_nicht | >:P |
| 06:54.53 | bleeter | Corrodias: cross platform audio API library, opens a dsound thingy and does the mixing. |
| 06:55.08 | bleeter | sag_ich_nicht: I suspect it will too ;) |
| 06:55.22 | Wobwork | krka: so blatent =P |
| 06:55.23 | bleeter | Corrodias: firelight is the company that employs the authors of fmodex.dll |
| 06:57.41 | sag_ich_nicht | bleeter: care to link me the wine bugzilla entry= |
| 06:57.49 | sag_ich_nicht | s/=/?/ |
| 06:58.03 | bleeter | http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=9498 |
| 06:58.50 | bleeter | I haven't yet entered the details of the email exchange, I want to confirm it's OK to record that publically with the the firelight chappy before I do so. I think it should be OK, but.. well, some people can get touchy ;) |
| 06:59.18 | bleeter | but yeah, if you look at the duplicate bug erros, and their bt/st's, it starts to become fairly obvious what's happening ;) |
| 06:59.24 | Nom- | Anyone know what was fixed in the latest PTR patch ? |
| 06:59.34 | Nom- | I heard Vista problems, but I wasn't actually having any problems... |
| 06:59.46 | Wobwork | http://www.pccasegear.com/images/dotsbig2.jpg |
| 06:59.46 | Nom- | Not since the patch before this one :) |
| 07:00.24 | bleeter | I suspect the vista/audio issues which are similar to what we're seeing under Wine come down to internal latency of individual machines, which despite any hardware data gathering cannot really be measured. |
| 07:01.07 | bleeter | hence, they appear to be 'random' |
| 07:01.56 | sag_ich_nicht | i suspect this comes from the illegal behaviour... like when you get the speed for an app from the CPU tact instead of the clock tact |
| 07:01.56 | sag_ich_nicht | D: |
| 07:01.58 | bleeter | Nom-: aye, I really wish blizz did a ChangeLog, not just patch notes, on the PTR. |
| 07:02.14 | sag_ich_nicht | i wish blizzard always did a changelog |
| 07:02.15 | sag_ich_nicht | -_- |
| 07:02.19 | bleeter | Nom-: us testers could then do far more targetted testing |
| 07:02.23 | sag_ich_nicht | yes |
| 07:02.52 | Chaotic_D | Wobwork: that's horrible. |
| 07:03.04 | Chaotic_D | I saw that flash video. blah. |
| 07:05.08 | sag_ich_nicht | this song, is the most awesome song to listen to while being in an instance |
| 07:05.09 | sag_ich_nicht | ever. |
| 07:05.43 | Chaotic_D | I can't click on it to listen. stupid computer. |
| 07:05.56 | sag_ich_nicht | because it's not a link. |
| 07:05.57 | sag_ich_nicht | >:O |
| 07:06.02 | Chaotic_D | I know. it's horrible. |
| 07:08.53 | Chaotic_D | I wish I could do something productive. playing WoW for almost 12 hours is not fulfilling. |
| 07:08.56 | sag_ich_nicht | bleeter good that you kept investigating, maybe i'll get a non-broken live patch next week |
| 07:09.05 | sag_ich_nicht | Chaotic_D don't you have a job or something? |
| 07:09.09 | Chaotic_D | nope. |
| 07:09.17 | sag_ich_nicht | well get one. |
| 07:09.43 | Chaotic_D | ehhh. I don't know... |
| 07:09.47 | Wobwork | Money is good |
| 07:09.54 | sag_ich_nicht | it buys food. |
| 07:09.54 | Chaotic_D | I don't care about money. |
| 07:10.00 | Wobwork | as is getting out of the house |
| 07:10.03 | bleeter | sag_ich_nicht: well, reading the tea-leaves, I suspect blizzard are hoping to close off 2.2 PTR with a 'last but final' build friday their time, leave it for the weekend and go live this Tuesday. |
| 07:10.15 | Wobwork | bleeter: >< |
| 07:10.19 | sag_ich_nicht | bleeter: same |
| 07:10.35 | bleeter | *apply their usual last minute changes internally, etc. over the weekend whilst waiting for any big explosion bug to appear in forum to cancel this move |
| 07:10.35 | sag_ich_nicht | bleeter: now you have to keep bugging the firelight guys so it gets fixed in time |
| 07:10.38 | Chaotic_D | yeah, it's all theoretical. I know I'm SUPPOSED to do stuff, but it's not connected to anything in real life as a context. |
| 07:11.22 | Wobwork | I suggest you take a year off (... although off what I don't know) and go travel overseas |
| 07:11.24 | bleeter | sag_ich_nicht: given Vista's attitude to DLL unloading, I doubt it'll NOT go through. May just not have had time to build/crash test internally, or they did put the change through internally but it blew something else up ;) |
| 07:12.04 | Wobwork | cya al |
| 07:12.17 | sag_ich_nicht | now have them fix the athlon bugs as well |
| 07:12.19 | sag_ich_nicht | >< |
| 07:12.20 | bleeter | seriously, the once I got over the 'go away mr random q unsupported-platform-hacker' response from firelight, they were very responsive to us ;) |
| 07:12.35 | bleeter | so I've gotta give them two thumbs up for that :D |
| 07:13.15 | bleeter | sag_ich_nicht: I hope that bug doesn't turn out to be on-chip ;) |
| 07:13.44 | sag_ich_nicht | it's not, it's probably some stupid locking problem in blizzard memory managment code |
| 07:13.48 | sag_ich_nicht | which needs a rewrite anyway |
| 07:14.14 | sag_ich_nicht | it's horrible >< |
| 07:15.17 | sag_ich_nicht | [09:12] <bleeter> seriously, the once I got over the 'go away mr random q unsupported-platform-hacker' response from firelight, they were very responsive to us ;) <--i'd like to see the email exchange, but i'm willing to wait for clearance from firelight :O |
| 07:16.49 | sag_ich_nicht | (also, i bet some guys at blizz are now biting themself in the ass for having to get help forced upon them from wine testers & developers) |
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| 07:18.36 | art3mis | http://infowars.net/articles/august2007/270807Warning.htm |
| 07:19.37 | ckknight | dolby-wowi: ping |
| 07:20.16 | bleeter | sag_ich_nicht: yeah, well the reason I fell off my chair when Hortus replied to my PTR thread with a 'thanks, unsupported, but very useful info' is that day 1 of PTR I reported the issue, and he locked the thread ;) |
| 07:20.59 | sag_ich_nicht | i guess they are desperate now |
| 07:21.00 | sag_ich_nicht | :D |
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| 07:21.25 | bleeter | ChangeLog request, direct in PTR forum -> http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=1272363260&postId=12717603126&sid=1#0 |
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| 07:22.46 | sag_ich_nicht | bleeter haha |
| 07:22.49 | bleeter | hmm, maybe not day #1, no idea when PTR originally came out... but here's the locked thread... |
| 07:22.57 | bleeter | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=443170418&sid=1 |
| 07:23.13 | bleeter | 4 weeks ago ;) |
| 07:24.15 | sag_ich_nicht | yeah but you didn't provide a fix there |
| 07:24.27 | sag_ich_nicht | i'm still waiting for the day when wine runs faster than native |
| 07:24.33 | sag_ich_nicht | (it already does for some stuff >:O) |
| 07:25.09 | bleeter | and, to be fair to Hortus, I had said we should take the discussion to the WoWWiki linux/wine discussion page |
| 07:28.00 | sag_ich_nicht | heh |
| 07:28.22 | sag_ich_nicht | god |
| 07:28.26 | bleeter | move->suggestions, move->general, move->off topic |
| 07:28.28 | sag_ich_nicht | if General knew of this |
| 07:28.43 | bleeter | though if one did this, there'd be bugger all in the PTR forum left to read lol |
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| 07:30.11 | sag_ich_nicht | bleeter |
| 07:30.15 | bleeter | sag_ich_nicht |
| 07:30.29 | sag_ich_nicht | imagine what would happen if someone wrote a tl;dr summary of these happenings and posted them on general |
| 07:31.42 | bleeter | other thing blizz could consider doing, giving time to whomever the PTR folks deemed to be "MVT's" during a test phase |
| 07:31.57 | bleeter | would encourage people to actually test, rather than dick around |
| 07:32.06 | sag_ich_nicht | heh |
| 07:32.07 | zenzelezz | most valuable or most vocal? |
| 07:32.22 | bleeter | or visible? |
| 07:32.39 | zenzelezz | virile |
| 07:33.02 | bleeter | virulent |
| 07:33.05 | bleeter | vile |
| 07:33.24 | bleeter | hmm,no not vile... nor vacuous |
| 07:36.03 | sag_ich_nicht | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=1272003007&sid=1 jesus christ the PTR forums are fucked up |
| 07:38.44 | bleeter | MVT suggestion, posted direct to PTR forum http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=1272363274&postId=12717603245&sid=1#0 |
| 07:38.57 | sag_ich_nicht | you just want green text |
| 07:38.59 | sag_ich_nicht | admit it. |
| 07:39.02 | bleeter | no |
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| 07:39.24 | bleeter | I just think it's fair that if any player invests time and effort in helping blizz sell a better product, it'd be nice if they were rewarded in some form. |
| 07:39.39 | bleeter | free time/green text/tshirt, I dun care. |
| 07:40.07 | bleeter | well, not any.. but one who contributes significantly |
| 07:40.28 | ckknight | I want a t-shirt |
| 07:40.33 | bleeter | it's all about the PR ;) |
| 07:40.43 | bleeter | and getting the shit off the PTR forum ;) |
| 07:44.13 | sag_ich_nicht | blizzard just needs more moderators |
| 07:44.16 | sag_ich_nicht | a LOT more. |
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| 07:48.36 | bleeter | man |
| 07:48.52 | bleeter | anyone would think Orcs use their shoulders to fight with, and contain the most important stat for their race |
| 07:49.16 | Elessdy | is it petty of me to want to level my hunter to raiding status not for the love of the class but rather because i want to show a couple of our guild's hunters what they're doing wrong? |
| 07:50.13 | bleeter | only downside of being a hunter who knows what they're doing, you automatically get lumped with moron hunters no matter how good you are. I think it takes extra effort ;) |
| 07:51.09 | Corrodias | i swear, after a couple of them claimed they hadn't even been using their pets on gruul because they died quickly, i just wanted to reach through the internet and SMACK them for it |
| 07:51.42 | Corrodias | although in one case it doesn't seem to matter much, as he steadfastly clings to his flamingo |
| 07:55.09 | Corrodias | there are many pets acceptable to the hunter who knows what he's doing. tallstriders aren't among them. |
| 07:55.46 | Corrodias | or, rather, the hunter who cares about performance and knows how to get it. that's the kind of hunter i want in my raids. |
| 07:56.37 | bleeter | tallstrider screams to me 'omg I didn't get a real pet at lvl 10 when my quest pet gave up on me and I grabbed the first thing tha walked past when I went to the crossroads', or similar |
| 07:57.13 | Corrodias | since his is pink, i can only assume he specifically, intentionally hunted down one of the least useful pets he could |
| 07:58.04 | bleeter | http://petopia.brashendeavors.net/html/mobs/mob_mazzranache.shtml |
| 07:58.26 | Corrodias | in mulgore. he's a troll, so that rather proves it. |
| 08:00.02 | bleeter | http://www.wowhead.com/?npc=3068#comments says it all really |
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| 08:07.55 | Corrodias | both groups finished karazhan in two nights again. my group took only 1 attempt at every boss. huzzah! |
| 08:08.23 | zenzelezz | nice |
| 08:13.03 | Corrodias | well, time for sleep. 'ni |
| 08:19.26 | Lysistrata | gn8 |
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| 10:22.52 | bleeter | um, it doesn't |
| 10:22.58 | bleeter | hell, you can run gcc in windows |
| 10:23.23 | zenzelezz | he left |
| 10:23.29 | bleeter | fG |
| 10:23.43 | bleeter | which was me trying to type 'gah' whilst rolling a ciggie |
| 10:25.02 | bleeter | http://gcc.gnu.org/install/specific.html |
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| 11:18.19 | lolinternet | any progress bleeter? :O |
| 11:26.20 | bleeter | on what? far as I'm concerned, I'm waiting for a new PTR build with an fmodex.dll date of around the 29th or 30th of this month |
| 11:26.32 | bleeter | 'til then, use the hack... I'm doing Uni assignments :P |
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| 11:37.44 | sag_ich_nicht | bleeter: i meant maybe you got another email from firelight or something |
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| 11:38.53 | bleeter | sag_ich_nicht: between 1AM and 4:30AM US time, highly unlikely ;) |
| 11:39.09 | sag_ich_nicht | like i check my watch :P |
| 11:39.36 | zenzelezz | should be careful about ehading |
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| 11:56.13 | Deadalious|PYLON | Hey guys |
| 11:56.26 | Shirik | hi |
| 11:56.35 | Deadalious|PYLON | I was just wondering if anyone knows of a mod or script that makes it possible to sell all greens in 1 click, or an auto-vendoring addon |
| 11:57.02 | Shirik | GarbageFu has similar code |
| 11:57.09 | Shirik | whether or not it's configurable to do that I'm not sure |
| 11:57.16 | Shirik | why greens? |
| 11:57.55 | Xinhuan | it would be better to mail all the greens to a guild disenchanter, who DEs it all and sends the dust/shards back to you |
| 11:58.14 | Xinhuan | my mail is clogged with a few 100 stuff to DE everyday ;p |
| 11:58.32 | bleeter | autoprofit would be pretty easy to hack, i think, to add green selling |
| 11:58.33 | bleeter | http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info6625-AutoProfit.html |
| 11:58.53 | JoshBorke | you have to be careful though |
| 12:00.17 | Shirik | I strongly discourage this |
| 12:00.21 | Shirik | I think it would cause more harm than good |
| 12:00.44 | Shirik | you would be vendoring arcane tomes, fel armaments, recipes |
| 12:00.49 | Shirik | there's a lot of "good" greens |
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| 12:58.49 | Deadalious|PYLON | <Shirik> I strongly discourage this |
| 12:58.49 | Deadalious|PYLON | <Shirik> I think it would cause more harm than good |
| 12:58.49 | Deadalious|PYLON | <Shirik> you would be vendoring arcane tomes, fel armaments, recipes |
| 12:59.20 | Deadalious|PYLON | Shirik|AFK, Thing is, The reason i want this is because i recently started playing on a private server, because it was recommended to break wow addictions, and i had a fairly severe one. |
| 12:59.39 | Deadalious|PYLON | and there is a vendor you buy greens for 0gold, and sell them for 3gold. |
| 12:59.48 | Deadalious|PYLON | So I buy 4 bags full of the greens, and sell them at 2g each. |
| 12:59.55 | sag_ich_nicht | Deadalious|PYLON we do not support privat servers |
| 13:00.03 | sag_ich_nicht | at all |
| 13:00.07 | Deadalious|PYLON | Ok, I do alot of green farming then -_-;? |
| 13:00.19 | Kalroth | Bit late now. :) |
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| 13:00.31 | bleeter | where's a # op when you need one |
| 13:00.45 | sag_ich_nicht | dolby-wowi |
| 13:00.45 | sag_ich_nicht | :O |
| 13:00.51 | Deadalious|PYLON | Hmm |
| 13:00.53 | Deadalious|PYLON | Fair enough |
| 13:01.06 | Deadalious|PYLON | Before you cream your pants in joy to get rid of me |
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| 13:01.14 | sag_ich_nicht | if you're addicted, just setup parental controls |
| 13:01.16 | Deadalious|PYLON | Fuck you :) |
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| 13:01.18 | sag_ich_nicht | and set it to like 1 minute |
| 13:01.21 | sag_ich_nicht | hahahahaha |
| 13:01.21 | sag_ich_nicht | idiot |
| 13:02.17 | bleeter | hmmm |
| 13:04.51 | bleeter | moron |
| 13:05.13 | bleeter | there, I feel all clean again :D |
| 13:06.33 | sag_ich_nicht | heh |
| 13:06.56 | Rallion | I start school again next week after being out of it for 2 1/2 years. nervous. nervous. |
| 13:07.01 | sag_ich_nicht | considering he said he's addicted, you're probably helping him with that |
| 13:07.02 | sag_ich_nicht | :P |
| 13:07.15 | sag_ich_nicht | Rallion age and what kind of school |
| 13:07.46 | Rallion | 22, just a community college for now, I would have gone to a state school but my transcripts are...uh...problematic |
| 13:07.46 | bleeter | sag_ich_nicht: that thought never crossed my mind |
| 13:07.48 | bleeter | ;) |
| 13:08.11 | sag_ich_nicht | oh btw BLEETER |
| 13:08.25 | sag_ich_nicht | log onto the PTR and check the textures in front of the IF AH |
| 13:08.27 | sag_ich_nicht | please |
| 13:08.36 | sag_ich_nicht | the floor there is buggy in live |
| 13:08.40 | bleeter | k, then I really should get back to my assignment |
| 13:08.51 | sag_ich_nicht | maybe they can fix it last minute on the PTR |
| 13:08.51 | sag_ich_nicht | :O |
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| 13:10.40 | bleeter | sag_ich_nicht: k, I'm in... what about it? |
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| 13:12.13 | bleeter | hmm, seems they use a slope as a floor across the steps, rather than.. erm.. steps |
| 13:12.51 | Rallion | i think they do that everywhere |
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| 13:13.55 | bleeter | Rallion: probably, just never bothered looking before. I'm still trying to work out what sag_ich_nicht is trying to report |
| 13:13.56 | Shirik|Ecole | I am so sick of newspeople talking about crap they have no clue about |
| 13:13.58 | bleeter | SPECIFICS! |
| 13:14.13 | bleeter | Shirik|Ecole: easily fixed... don't pay attention to news |
| 13:14.14 | Shirik|Ecole | "Remember to disconnect your computer from the internet [when you go away for the holiday]. You don't want thieves hacking into your accounts." |
| 13:15.21 | bleeter | Shirik|Ecole: surely it'd be more important to just turn your computer up so if it explodes your house won't burn down ;) |
| 13:16.43 | Rallion | Shirik, as time goes on I find that I get less and less upset about things, that I'm more able to just relax, about everything except stupid fear-mongering in the media. |
| 13:17.38 | Rallion | and I don't mean like, "Yous gonna get blowed up!", it's more about stuff like that |
| 13:24.55 | lolinternet | what |
| 13:24.59 | Shirik|Ecole | !list |
| 13:25.04 | lolinternet | disconnect |
| 13:25.09 | lolinternet | bleeter |
| 13:25.20 | bleeter | ... |
| 13:25.24 | lolinternet | just check the floor textures around the AH building |
| 13:25.27 | Shirik|Ecole | nickserv ghost lolinternet |
| 13:25.32 | lolinternet | yeah i know |
| 13:25.33 | lolinternet | lazy |
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| 13:26.00 | Thrae | Is that "lol internet" or "loli internet", or both? |
| 13:26.12 | Shirik|Ecole | both imo |
| 13:26.17 | bleeter | sag_ich_nicht: please, I don't really have the time to play guessing games... just tell me what I'm meant to be looking for! |
| 13:26.26 | Shirik|Ecole | anyone here have experience with Win32 APIs perhaps? |
| 13:26.30 | sag_ich_nicht | bleeter: compare it to the rest of the floor textures |
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| 13:26.36 | Shirik|Ecole | (Random question before I go off to the MSDN) |
| 13:26.46 | sag_ich_nicht | it's borked, very obvious |
| 13:26.56 | Shirik|Ecole | s/MSDN/MSDN usenet/ |
| 13:26.57 | sag_ich_nicht | *of the floor textures in IF |
| 13:27.04 | sag_ich_nicht | okay have to go away |
| 13:27.09 | sag_ich_nicht | my boss kills me otherwise :O |
| 13:27.10 | sag_ich_nicht | afk |
| 13:27.26 | sag_ich_nicht | p.s.: it's to the left of the AH |
| 13:28.51 | Rallion | for the love of all that is sacred somebody tell me what's wrong with the floor! |
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| 13:35.06 | bleeter | sag_ich_nicht: nice catch http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=1371467181&postId=13713137642&sid=1#0 but please try to be to the point next time, I just spent 15 mins NOT doing my assignment 'coz you weren't :/ |
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| 13:36.42 | sag_ich_nicht | bleeter: it's also to the right of the AH |
| 13:36.45 | bleeter | Rallion: it was sag_ich_nicht's initial vague description that made it hard to find, look on the outside of IF AH, over the left, between the building and the carriage |
| 13:36.47 | sag_ich_nicht | to the right of the AH is even worse |
| 13:37.03 | bleeter | gah, someone else get a screenie and post... I'll just update the text |
| 13:37.08 | bleeter | in my report |
| 13:37.15 | sag_ich_nicht | [15:08] <sag_ich_nicht> log onto the PTR and check the textures in front of the IF AH |
| 13:37.19 | sag_ich_nicht | [15:08] <sag_ich_nicht> the floor there is buggy in live |
| 13:37.35 | sag_ich_nicht | it's not like the front of the AH is so big |
| 13:37.42 | sag_ich_nicht | i thought it was sufficient D: |
| 13:37.47 | sag_ich_nicht | and then my boss wanted and i had to afk |
| 13:37.55 | sag_ich_nicht | sorry |
| 13:38.01 | sag_ich_nicht | *wanted something |
| 13:38.02 | bleeter | *in front* != left side |
| 13:38.09 | sag_ich_nicht | meh |
| 13:38.31 | bleeter | more precisely, front != sides... but I'm gone now |
| 13:38.52 | sag_ich_nicht | bleeter i am sorry. anything i can do to make you feel better? :O |
| 13:39.00 | Rallion | That's always been that way, hasn't it? |
| 13:39.28 | sag_ich_nicht | yeah. |
| 13:39.40 | Thrae | sag_ich_nicht: For a second there, I read it as "boss" as in a NPC boss. * Ragnaros rolls 55 Need (1-100) for [Hand of Ragnaros] <Ragnaros> I want my hand back, dammit! |
| 13:39.44 | bleeter | sag_ich_nicht: sure, knight's tour UML diagram with functional description... you have... 15 hours |
| 13:40.43 | bleeter | oh, and you're not allowed to use ints, floats or strings (even tho they're part of the UML spec) |
| 13:40.51 | bleeter | and a bucketload of other stuff in the spec, too |
| 13:40.58 | sag_ich_nicht | well |
| 13:41.03 | sag_ich_nicht | you're screwed |
| 13:41.06 | sag_ich_nicht | give up :D |
| 13:41.16 | sag_ich_nicht | (or get off IRC) |
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| 13:41.42 | Wobin_ | http://www.uniqlo.jp/uniqlock/ |
| 13:43.50 | bleeter | sag_ich_nicht: indeed |
| 13:44.23 | sag_ich_nicht | cladhaire |
| 13:44.25 | sag_ich_nicht | kick bleeter |
| 13:44.39 | sag_ich_nicht | he/she/it needs it to get off irc, it seems :P |
| 13:44.45 | cladhaire | lol |
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| 13:49.05 | alestane | cladhaire: Not at a machine that can WoW to check: does Clique support setting 'helpbutton' and 'harmbutton' on unit frames to determine what to cast on a particular click? |
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| 13:50.49 | cladhaire | yes |
| 13:50.57 | cladhaire | it also support out-of-combat click sets |
| 13:51.24 | alestane | How does one set that up? Are there 'sets' for help/harm? |
| 13:51.52 | cladhaire | yes |
| 13:52.06 | cladhaire | four sets, default, harmful, helpful and out of combat |
| 13:52.08 | alestane | kthx |
| 13:54.56 | sneg | btw clad your mod, lightheaded, does it fetch stuff real-time or its a db ? |
| 13:55.34 | amro | is enUS significantly different from enGB? |
| 13:55.43 | cladhaire | its all db.. you can't fetch real-time stuff. |
| 13:56.05 | sneg | its the same afaik |
| 13:56.26 | krka | cladhaire: what was the problem with coloring history before? |
| 13:56.32 | krka | i didnt understand any of that |
| 13:56.57 | cladhaire | for example, do /lua ChatFrame1:AddMessage("|cFFFF0000Hello|r") |
| 13:57.00 | cladhaire | it works properly |
| 13:57.08 | cladhaire | printing the colored message |
| 13:57.12 | cladhaire | when you press up to go to the history |
| 13:57.12 | krka | right |
| 13:57.20 | cladhaire | it gets colored as a string, losing the color codes |
| 13:57.23 | sag_ich_nicht | [15:56] <sneg> its the same afaik <--no, it's not, but that's besides the point |
| 13:57.32 | krka | oh i see |
| 13:57.46 | sneg | what are the differences? i have never head of it |
| 13:57.51 | krka | is the history stored in lua or c? |
| 13:58.34 | cladhaire | I suspect its C.. but I don't know. |
| 13:59.17 | krka | so hard to work around i guess |
| 13:59.20 | krka | unless...! |
| 13:59.26 | krka | you keep your own copy of the history |
| 14:00.27 | alestane | Does sending any chat message with color codes DC you, or just item links? |
| 14:00.59 | cladhaire | krka: well i have to manually call addlinetohistory |
| 14:01.15 | cladhaire | just not sure what i need to do to "fix" it, basically |
| 14:01.18 | cladhaire | and knew you'd know more. |
| 14:01.31 | krka | not really, i havent messed with the history |
| 14:01.56 | krka | my best guess would be to modify the input box after it's been changed from history |
| 14:03.45 | cladhaire | FAIAP does |
| 14:03.48 | cladhaire | and that's the problem :P |
| 14:04.28 | alestane | "FAIAP"? |
| 14:04.54 | krka | faiap messes with the history? O_o |
| 14:05.14 | krka | for all indents and purposes, alestane |
| 14:05.28 | alestane | Ah. |
| 14:05.43 | alestane | BtW indents = intents. |
| 14:05.49 | krka | no |
| 14:06.01 | alestane | Or it should have, anyway. |
| 14:06.05 | krka | the typo is intended ;) |
| 14:06.29 | sag_ich_nicht | [16:00] <alestane> Does sending any chat message with color codes DC you, or just item links? <--just itemlinks. but you can't send color strings in the chat, wow makes || out of | internally then converts it back at the client side |
| 14:07.03 | Rallion | I spend so much time updating addons, and I haven't actually played (except for the AH game!) for about two weeks. |
| 14:07.31 | krka | alestane: http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info4895-ForAllIndentsAndPurposes.html |
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| 14:07.52 | alestane | Oh, k, reference to something specific. |
| 14:07.59 | alestane | Got it. |
| 14:09.15 | alestane | sag_ich_nicht: so you can type them in without getting DC'd, but the color info won't make it through the chat server? |
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| 14:11.00 | sag_ich_nicht | alestane: yes. |
| 14:15.36 | bleeter | sag_ich_nicht: it's like that on live. |
| 14:15.48 | sag_ich_nicht | bleeter: i know. and on the PTR :P |
| 14:15.57 | sag_ich_nicht | but you don't have to tell blizz that >:O |
| 14:16.23 | sag_ich_nicht | (and they might have fixed it on the PTR, because it has been posted in Bugs multiple times already since like 1.9 or something) |
| 14:17.46 | cladhaire | krka: http://images.gammatester.com/pics/775fd92267036e46beef4ce37e3a57b5.png |
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| 14:18.08 | cladhaire | krka: When I press up intiially, the edit box shows the colored version (red).. but then faiap is re-coloring it to th string color. |
| 14:18.13 | cladhaire | that's the problem i'm having, sorry for not being specific. |
| 14:23.06 | krka | hm |
| 14:23.38 | cladhaire | Just trying to figure out how I can get around it =/ |
| 14:23.38 | krka | so it is faiap related atleast then :) |
| 14:24.02 | krka | weird... where does the red come from? |
| 14:24.15 | krka | i can understand stripping off all the color code |
| 14:24.39 | cladhaire | the red comes from when I "print" the command to the scrolling message frame |
| 14:24.43 | cladhaire | i could escape them there |
| 14:24.46 | amro | Download rate: 2kb/s. Upload rate: 20kb/s. Don't you just love when that happens? |
| 14:24.48 | cladhaire | and prevent the red from showing up |
| 14:24.54 | bleeter | sag_ich_nicht: so basically, you're saying you got me to report something that's been in live since... like.. years |
| 14:25.04 | cladhaire | but i dont mind the red, so long as faiap doesn't make it yellow :P |
| 14:25.15 | krka | hmm.. the yellow is wrong? |
| 14:25.33 | alestane | amro: torrents? |
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| 14:25.47 | krka | just to clarify: you want color code in editbox but not at all in history? |
| 14:25.49 | amro | alestane: yep |
| 14:26.18 | cladhaire | krka: I run ChatFrame1:AddMessage("|cffff0000Hello |
| 14:26.21 | cladhaire | |r") |
| 14:26.30 | cladhaire | when it prints to the chatframe it's red. |
| 14:26.35 | sag_ich_nicht | bleeter: bug is bug. :P |
| 14:26.42 | cladhaire | when i print it to the WowLua window, its red |
| 14:26.55 | krka | right |
| 14:26.57 | cladhaire | when i press UP in the edit box for history, it's red.. and then FAIAP strips the red and makes it yellow. |
| 14:26.57 | sag_ich_nicht | bleeter: the thing is, sometimes it works |
| 14:27.00 | sag_ich_nicht | but not always |
| 14:27.16 | krka | oh... i see |
| 14:27.42 | cladhaire | i probably need to escape some things out either way |
| 14:27.43 | krka | so you're losing the |cffff0000 original |
| 14:27.44 | cladhaire | just trying to figure out whats best to do |
| 14:29.29 | krka | the conversion from plain -> faiap mode fails |
| 14:29.44 | krka | maybe that should be rewritten |
| 14:30.01 | krka | now faiap uses the same conversion for everything -> faiap mode |
| 14:30.14 | krka | which simply is: strip all colors and recolor |
| 14:30.38 | krka | instead it should distinguish from normal mode and faiap mode |
| 14:30.55 | krka | conversion from normal mode -> faiap mode would be simply be to convert | to || |
| 14:31.48 | cladhaire | hrm.. okay |
| 14:32.17 | krka | does that make sense? :) |
| 14:32.35 | art3mis | nothing you say makes sense krka! |
| 14:32.41 | krka | true... true... |
| 14:33.07 | art3mis | your name is much funnier if you hear chris rock say it in your head when you read it ;) |
| 14:33.51 | art3mis | clad i need you to make me an addon ;P |
| 14:33.59 | cladhaire | ? |
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| 14:34.08 | cladhaire | krka: yes it does |
| 14:35.42 | krka | the problem is that it can be hard to know which mode you're in at all times |
| 14:35.45 | art3mis | i was thinking yesterday tha i'd really like an addon that you can create a box, as it were, and within this custome box you can place addons in a certain layout, like raid for instance. and then you close/minimize the box and it would close/suspend the addons within it and open em in the same retained layout when you opeed/maximized |
| 14:35.48 | krka | i have to think this through a bit :) |
| 14:35.57 | art3mis | sorta like a ui layout toggle as it were |
| 14:36.16 | krka | or wait... :SetText should always be in normal mode |
| 14:36.32 | alestane | art3mis: I'm working on adding functionality to Goose sort of like what you describe. |
| 14:36.44 | art3mis | so you can still have yer nice happy raid lyout setting with all its bells and whistles, but not have a conflict of window placement |
| 14:36.48 | art3mis | ooo really? |
| 14:37.26 | art3mis | make custom sized boxes place and layout addons in it and make it go away and appear? |
| 14:37.40 | alestane | RIght now it only supports the MultiActionBars, and only based on [mounted], [combat] and [stealth]: but the next version will support showing/hiding any direct shild of UIParent based on any macro condition. |
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| 14:37.50 | alestane | sp* |
| 14:38.38 | art3mis | oh thats kind of it, not quite what i was going for though |
| 14:39.21 | art3mis | still, thats kidn of neat |
| 14:39.23 | art3mis | kind |
| 14:40.56 | [Liq] | Anyone know of an addon for assigning healing tasks? |
| 14:40.59 | art3mis | i was a few steps further in that if you wanted your party layout you'd click/maximize the party box and it would place the addons within that window where you left them, however if you close that and open the raid oen those same addons would appear elsewhere in a different layout |
| 14:41.23 | art3mis | liq there's quite a few of those actually cant think of the names at all though |
| 14:42.10 | cladhaire | krka: Thanks, I have it working as I'd expect it to now.. much better :P |
| 14:42.12 | [Liq] | art3mis I have absolutely no luck finding anything doing something related |
| 14:42.19 | krka | cladhaire: how'd you fix it? |
| 14:42.35 | cladhaire | escape \124 before i print it to the output, and before i add the line to the history |
| 14:42.55 | krka | \124 is | ? |
| 14:42.58 | cladhaire | yes |
| 14:42.58 | cladhaire | http://images.gammatester.com/pics/981c49faf0371ae3a6ae4e68ba0d5554.png |
| 14:43.25 | krka | nice thinking |
| 14:43.37 | krka | when i made faiap i didnt anticipate the three different modes |
| 14:43.43 | art3mis | http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info7287-HealAssign.html <-- liq |
| 14:43.51 | art3mis | you didnt look very good then ;P |
| 14:43.55 | alestane | atr3mis: I suspect you could get functionality from Goose like what you're describing by combining it with eePanels. |
| 14:44.03 | krka | 1) normal. 2) faiap. 3) escaped | |
| 14:44.43 | art3mis | alestane: ooooo |
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| 14:44.52 | art3mis | thats right, since the panels it makes are parents |
| 14:44.53 | krka | art3mis: that's an insult to his/her looks. did you mean to say "you didnt look very well"? |
| 14:45.06 | art3mis | laugh krka |
| 14:45.21 | alestane | So you'd show or hide the panel based on [group:raid] (for instance). |
| 14:45.40 | art3mis | alestane: but that still wouldnt stop or deal with the addons themselves "remembering" thier placement somewhere else |
| 14:45.58 | alestane | No, that's a statement about their semblance of health... |
| 14:46.17 | alestane | art3mis: not unless eePanels can do something about that. |
| 14:46.33 | art3mis | alestane: yeah thats sorta the main gist/reason for the addon i want ;P |
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| 14:47.00 | art3mis | so i can palce omen in 3 different places depending on my layouts and quick swap between em ;P |
| 14:47.17 | art3mis | as an example |
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| 14:47.38 | alestane | Hrmm, Goose won't really do that, it just shows/hides. |
| 14:47.49 | art3mis | nods, thats still kind of cool though |
| 14:49.31 | art3mis | i love my Hello Kitty Island Adventure layout |
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| 14:50.30 | alestane | Are you the one who through that up in the "Colorful, Feminine UI" thread? |
| 14:50.35 | alestane | threw* |
| 14:50.35 | art3mis | yup |
| 14:51.00 | alestane | You seriously gonna put ears on the buttons? That would make me lol, I think. |
| 14:51.03 | art3mis | got bored yesterday |
| 14:51.06 | art3mis | yup |
| 14:51.23 | art3mis | all i gotta do is change the circle graphic in cycircle ;P |
| 14:51.30 | alestane | Should just be a question of adding a new texture set in cyCircled right? |
| 14:51.34 | art3mis | yup |
| 14:51.45 | art3mis | the minimap may be a bit "odder" |
| 14:51.53 | art3mis | but thats gonna get hello bunny ears |
| 14:51.55 | alestane | Warped, man...but very funny. |
| 14:52.12 | art3mis | even debating making all the portraits hello kitty and friends |
| 14:52.34 | Kalroth | The preferred UI for corrupt taiwan cops, eh? |
| 14:52.48 | alestane | Like all the priests are Hello Kitty and all the the shammies are some other character? |
| 14:52.52 | art3mis | it's the new default paladin ui ;P |
| 14:53.04 | art3mis | alestane: generally yeah |
| 14:53.11 | Kalroth | Paladins are that yellow pokemon thingy |
| 14:53.12 | alestane | (Dont't know any characters, can't use as examples...but that would be a riot.) |
| 14:53.40 | art3mis | im thiking player will always be hello kitty, but all mobs will be the villian and all the classes will be the friends ;P |
| 14:53.54 | art3mis | Pokeurpoo? |
| 14:54.05 | alestane | Can one hook GetPortraitTexture() without blowing up the UI? |
| 14:54.19 | art3mis | using duf/dart you can |
| 14:59.34 | Rallion | hmm...LotR Online 7-day trial |
| 14:59.56 | Polarina | Who likes this screenshot? http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/full9170.jpg |
| 15:00.15 | Rallion | nice touch |
| 15:00.20 | Polarina | And why is it marked as .jpg when it's a PNG one? |
| 15:01.56 | [Liq] | Polarina, what's wrong with the ss? |
| 15:01.59 | Rallion | maybe wowi converts it |
| 15:02.08 | Polarina | [Liq]: Wrong? |
| 15:02.18 | art3mis | wrong/different |
| 15:02.29 | Polarina | Rallion: No, the MIME type is of a PNG image. same is the header. |
| 15:03.27 | Rallion | so it is. |
| 15:04.20 | Rallion | I think, actually, there are some browsers that by default 'download' PNG instead of 'view', despite the fact that they CAN display them |
| 15:04.31 | Rallion | so renaming takes care of that |
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| 15:09.27 | |Jelly| | [09:42]* art3mis{#wowi-lounge} kicks Jelly in the shins. <-- what'd I do? |
| 15:11.22 | alestane | |Jelly|: I think he was bored. |
| 15:11.31 | |Jelly| | Ahh. |
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| 15:15.37 | [Liq] | http://wow-cdn1.incgamers.com/craid1_20061213.JPG :> |
| 15:16.42 | Valaron|Work | Morning |
| 15:16.50 | alestane | Some sort of round damage meter? |
| 15:16.59 | |Jelly| | Morning. |
| 15:18.17 | alestane | Or raid health bars based on Secure Pie Button? |
| 15:19.13 | art3mis | you didnt like my ui jelly? |
| 15:19.27 | |Jelly| | The Hello Kitty one? |
| 15:19.34 | art3mis | ;) |
| 15:19.45 | |Jelly| | It made me throw up a little in my mouth. :P |
| 15:19.47 | art3mis | thats why i kicked you in the shins ;P |
| 15:20.03 | art3mis | it's awesome aint it? |
| 15:20.23 | art3mis | awesome in one of those "stand there in awe that someone would do that" sorta awesome |
| 15:20.30 | |Jelly| | rofl |
| 15:21.08 | art3mis | im just gonna start pretending that im playing hello kitty island adventure |
| 15:21.12 | art3mis | maybe wow wil suck less |
| 15:21.25 | art3mis | you any good with art? |
| 15:21.33 | |Jelly| | Me? I wish. |
| 15:21.35 | art3mis | and paintshop/gimp |
| 15:21.51 | art3mis | dang i need someone to convert/make me some cycircled ears for the buttons |
| 15:21.56 | art3mis | well ears and a bow ;) |
| 15:22.15 | art3mis | i just realized that such a picture doesnt exist in my searchs and i suck VERY badly at art stuff |
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| 15:23.12 | alestane | I can maybe do that when I get home. |
| 15:23.20 | alestane | Not doing the minimap though. |
| 15:23.20 | art3mis | ooo awesome |
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| 15:23.53 | art3mis | the minimap should be just a bigger version no? |
| 15:24.06 | alestane | What cyCircled texture did you use? |
| 15:24.23 | art3mis | ive got all 3 installed right now i "think" its the goldorb one |
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| 15:25.42 | alestane | I though you said you wanted Bunny ears for the minimap? |
| 15:25.58 | art3mis | either's good |
| 15:26.16 | art3mis | whatever requires the elast amount of effort if you're kind enough to make the buttons thats good enough ;P |
| 15:26.50 | alestane | I should be able to do a button texture, I'm usually okay at details and tweaks. |
| 15:28.17 | Valaron|Work | I wanna see this Hello Kitty UI. |
| 15:28.41 | alestane | http://www.gothi.ca/Stuff/hellokitty-ui.jpg |
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| 15:30.04 | Mr_Rabies2 | that is an abomination and an affront to every religion ever, and even carl sagan looks nervous |
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| 15:33.02 | art3mis | how many classes are there? |
| 15:33.50 | art3mis | rogue, druid, shaman, priest, lock, war, hunter, mage |
| 15:33.55 | deltron | 8 |
| 15:33.57 | art3mis | thats it right? |
| 15:34.11 | deltron | yes |
| 15:34.18 | zenzelezz | I think paladins would be upset at that list |
| 15:34.22 | art3mis | heh |
| 15:34.24 | deltron | oh yeah |
| 15:34.26 | art3mis | yeah |
| 15:34.26 | deltron | :) |
| 15:34.38 | art3mis | hey i was horde for 2 years |
| 15:34.46 | art3mis | paladins are an abomination |
| 15:35.53 | deltron | at least we are teaching alliance how to play paladins :) |
| 15:36.54 | Mr_Rabies2 | hrm |
| 15:37.07 | Mr_Rabies2 | i am now the proud owner of a brand new blue space slug |
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| 15:41.32 | art3mis | umm woo? |
| 15:41.40 | art3mis | deltron: haha yeah |
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| 15:47.13 | sag_ich_nicht | bleeter: you mad at me now? D: |
| 15:47.38 | cog|work | Where did trevion come from? |
| 15:48.50 | |Jelly| | He's your average forum warrior. |
| 15:49.04 | Valaron|Work | Isn't Cog a warrior? |
| 15:49.12 | Valaron|Work | Hee |
| 15:49.12 | |Jelly| | Yeah but Cog isn't average. |
| 15:49.19 | Valaron|Work | He's mini! |
| 15:49.23 | |Jelly| | rofl |
| 15:49.41 | |Jelly| | He's on my "Do Not Punt" list though so that makes him special. |
| 15:50.00 | cog|work | Too bad he edited out "winbag" :P |
| 15:50.20 | |Jelly| | Eh. You got it; who cares what he edited. :P |
| 15:52.40 | alestane | Trevion has struck he as someone who is just knowledgable enough to be dangerous. |
| 15:53.02 | alestane | He's not actually obnoxious be he has shot his mouth off more than once. |
| 15:53.07 | alestane | but* |
| 15:53.39 | cog|work | Not obnoxious in the General Forum poster sense, but he's definitely a bit... abrasive... |
| 15:54.26 | alestane | Well, that seems to me to be sort of a case of calling the kettle black, but that doesn't make it less true. |
| 15:57.43 | cog|work | you know, that's one idiom i've never really groked |
| 15:57.49 | cog|work | (grokked?) |
| 15:59.14 | cog|work | alestane: i admit i'm wrong when I am at least :P |
| 15:59.23 | alestane | Yes, he's taking a rather personal, arrogant stance in that thread (just read the latest exchanges). |
| 15:59.39 | Mr_Rabies2 | cog: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pot_calling_the_kettle_black |
| 15:59.58 | cog|work | Mr_Rabies2: just read http://www.goenglish.com/ThePotCallingTheKettleBlack.asp |
| 16:00.15 | alestane | cog|work: In the time from which that idom comes, the pot was usually made of iron (black). THe kettle, while usually copper, spent all its time over the fire and was covered with soot. Or at least that was my understanding. |
| 16:00.30 | cog|work | alestane: he's actually been personally attacking me in quite a few threads recently... |
| 16:01.03 | alestane | He's definitely sort of off-hand and punchy in that thread, I just read the more recent exchanges. |
| 16:02.55 | alestane | I do "like" the part where you make a reasonable request for him to back up his two-word rejoinders and he says he's not going to discuss it. |
| 16:03.05 | cog|work | Heh... it looks like he DID come from General :P http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=1272281473 GG starting a thread to do nothing more than rile up the masses. He even explicitly states he just did it to get attention... |
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| 16:03.12 | cog|work | heh. me too :P |
| 16:05.53 | cog|work | Is it just me or did he disappear now that it's fairly obvious he's wrong? |
| 16:07.21 | alestane | Well, he certainly wasn't as quick to respond...I don't think he feels like participating in an argument that doesn't make him feel self-important. |
| 16:07.26 | |Jelly| | Are you turning into a forum stalker, Cog? |
| 16:07.47 | cog|work | Only in retaliation :P |
| 16:07.55 | sag_ich_nicht | cog |
| 16:07.56 | alestane | Still pretty new to IRC, how do I change my nick? |
| 16:08.04 | |Jelly| | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:08.05 | sag_ich_nicht | rewrite sprocket! :O |
| 16:08.05 | cog|work | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:08.06 | art3mis | when you're making unit frames where is the call made to use the classicons? |
| 16:08.20 | cog|work | sag_ich_nicht: wtb 48-hour days |
| 16:08.28 | cog|work | and keep 8-hour workday |
| 16:08.37 | |Jelly| | WTT |
| 16:09.01 | |Jelly| | It'll cost you World Peace though. |
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| 16:15.00 | zenzelezz | that's no problem, world peace can't exist anyway when people have 30 hours to do what they want anyway |
| 16:15.12 | |Jelly| | lol |
| 16:15.16 | art3mis | thats why we should have murder day |
| 16:15.24 | art3mis | where legally you're allowed to kill 1 person |
| 16:15.39 | |Jelly| | Just one? |
| 16:15.45 | art3mis | yeah |
| 16:15.52 | |Jelly| | But my list is so long! |
| 16:16.03 | art3mis | well it does come each year ;P |
| 16:16.13 | |Jelly| | Does it count if you end up killing someone in self defense cause they're trying to kill you? |
| 16:16.19 | |Jelly| | ...cause that seems kind of unfair to me. |
| 16:16.23 | art3mis | yup |
| 16:16.30 | art3mis | there are no "accidents" on murder day |
| 16:16.48 | art3mis | you kill more than you're 1 person and your entire family is scrubbed from the gene pool |
| 16:17.04 | art3mis | cousins sisters children etc etc etc |
| 16:17.35 | art3mis | i cant find where duf is calling the classicon, anyone have a clue? |
| 16:17.53 | Rallion | so hold on |
| 16:17.57 | art3mis | ~~(;,,; )~~ <-- cthulu smile |
| 16:18.19 | art3mis | you're == your |
| 16:18.20 | Rallion | if you make your kill on murder day, then somebody comes to kill you, the preferred course of action is to just die |
| 16:18.39 | art3mis | well no, but you're not allowed to kill em |
| 16:18.49 | art3mis | oh and no guns |
| 16:18.51 | Rallion | how humilating would that be |
| 16:18.58 | Rallion | to fail to make your kill on murder day |
| 16:18.59 | art3mis | you want someone dead it's face to face ;P |
| 16:19.19 | art3mis | you can be a ninja |
| 16:19.20 | |Jelly| | Just cause they can't see me doesn't mean it's not face to face. |
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| 16:19.29 | art3mis | nods |
| 16:19.34 | art3mis | but no long distance kills |
| 16:19.38 | art3mis | actually |
| 16:19.40 | art3mis | no guns |
| 16:19.53 | Rallion | bows still cool? |
| 16:19.58 | art3mis | or anything thats gunpowder powered |
| 16:20.00 | art3mis | yup |
| 16:20.07 | Rallion | bows rock. |
| 16:20.09 | art3mis | bows take skill to shoot |
| 16:20.12 | art3mis | guns dont |
| 16:20.20 | |Jelly| | At 800yds, they do |
| 16:20.22 | |Jelly| | :-\ |
| 16:20.33 | art3mis | in the general scheme of things i mean |
| 16:20.38 | clad|book | art3mis: the texcoords are at the top of Blizzard_RaidUI.lua |
| 16:20.44 | art3mis | any chuckle fuck can get a gun and shoot someone |
| 16:20.57 | |Jelly| | Not at range. :P |
| 16:21.11 | cog|work | hehe... http://yro.slashdot.org/ |
| 16:21.19 | art3mis | laugh lets see you kill someone with a bow at ver 75 yards ;P |
| 16:21.20 | cog|work | err.. http://yro.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=07/08/30/128226 |
| 16:21.30 | art3mis | ver == even |
| 16:21.36 | |Jelly| | Lets see YOU kill someone with a gun at 800yds. |
| 16:21.41 | Rallion | I'd be lucky to hit somebody at 10 with a bow |
| 16:21.44 | art3mis | give me the right gun and alright |
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| 16:21.54 | clad|book | art3mis: http://wowi.pastey.net/72976 |
| 16:22.01 | |Jelly| | I have a M21. That right enough? :P |
| 16:22.32 | Rallion | the issue Ireally have with guns on murder day is that it's far too impersonal |
| 16:22.34 | |Jelly| | ...cause if not, we'll have to go get my M700 from my Uncle's |
| 16:22.38 | Rallion | and the gunpowder does all the actual work |
| 16:22.49 | art3mis | thanks clad, now to find where it's being called in duf so i can change it to custom pictures |
| 16:23.11 | |Jelly| | ...are you REALLY running with that Hello Kitty UI? lol |
| 16:23.11 | art3mis | thats more or less the gist rall |
| 16:23.25 | art3mis | on murder day you want someone dead you do it yourself |
| 16:23.44 | |Jelly| | So technically, you shouldn't be able to use anything but your hands? |
| 16:23.54 | art3mis | see the thing is, if you dont kill anyone that day but you kill someoen that was trying to kill you, you're safe since that's your 1 kill |
| 16:24.08 | Rallion | anything powered with muscle, jelly |
| 16:24.08 | art3mis | i dunno knifeing someone is a bit personal ;P |
| 16:24.20 | art3mis | and yeah i am jelly |
| 16:24.28 | |Jelly| | But you're not doing the work yourself; your hand can't cut anyone. |
| 16:24.41 | art3mis | it shall forever be known as the hello kitty island adventure experience ;P |
| 16:24.45 | |Jelly| | rofl |
| 16:24.46 | Rallion | ooh i made way too much pasta |
| 16:24.58 | |Jelly| | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:25.17 | Rallion | leftovers! woo, |
| 16:26.58 | |Jelly| | I will never understand why hunters choose weapons with no stats. |
| 16:27.06 | |Jelly| | ZOMG It's blue/purple! |
| 16:28.00 | art3mis | clas: none of that stuff in duf exists |
| 16:28.13 | art3mis | it's got a toggle but i dont actually see where it's calling it from |
| 16:30.58 | pastamancer | muahaha |
| 16:34.45 | Rallion | Jelly, it's not about the color, it's usually about the model :P |
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| 16:35.50 | |Jelly| | lol |
| 16:36.54 | |Jelly| | Sad thing is, you're probably 100% correct. |
| 16:37.07 | Rallion | i've never had a hunter past level 15 myself |
| 16:37.28 | |Jelly| | WoW EZ mode. |
| 16:37.33 | |Jelly| | That's why there's so many stupid hunters. |
| 16:37.40 | clad|book | NSFW: http://youtube.com/watch?v=k-rXEQ4twCo&mode=related&search= |
| 16:37.59 | Rallion | I have a friend who decided he's rather level his 40 rogue to 70 rather than his 60 hunter |
| 16:39.52 | |Jelly| | clad|book: ROFL |
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| 16:40.45 | Rallion | EPIC. |
| 16:40.57 | cog|work | What sort of NSFW? |
| 16:41.00 | Rallion | language. |
| 16:41.07 | sag_ich_nicht | hilarious clad|book |
| 16:41.07 | clad|book | :P |
| 16:41.26 | |Jelly| | Yeah...but I think "language" is an understatement. |
| 16:41.31 | Rallion | hehe |
| 16:41.33 | Rallion | it |
| 16:41.46 | Rallion | it's a 2:07 movie and about 2:00 is profanity |
| 16:42.28 | Rallion | usually, when you see somebody say something like that, you think, well, that's just some hyperbole! but, here, not so much. |
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| 16:46.05 | alestane | I like Kamdis and Alecthar on Cog's "New Program..." thread. |
| 16:46.08 | Mr_Rabies2 | clad|book: http://youtube.com/watch?v=ZhdEsqCkVTI |
| 16:46.13 | Mr_Rabies2 | (nsfw) |
| 16:46.41 | clad|book | lol |
| 16:46.47 | alestane | Now Alecthar is one of those people who sort of comes out of nowhere and sticks around, but is actually useful. |
| 16:46.57 | Rallion | lol yes |
| 16:47.00 | Rallion | i love it |
| 16:47.14 | Rallion | <3 the bartender. |
| 16:47.24 | Mr_Rabies2 | the great part is |
| 16:47.25 | Mr_Rabies2 | in that video |
| 16:47.29 | Mr_Rabies2 | it's like a perfect short version |
| 16:47.39 | Mr_Rabies2 | you miss like maybe 20 seconds between each "fuck" |
| 16:47.47 | Mr_Rabies2 | at the most |
| 16:47.51 | Rallion | hehe yeah |
| 16:48.01 | Rallion | you can kinda get the plot |
| 16:48.27 | Mr_Rabies2 | which do you think sells better? a depleted staff or the thing it creates? |
| 16:49.05 | Mr_Rabies2 | http://www.wowhead.com/?item=32662 |
| 16:49.27 | sag_ich_nicht | thing it creates. |
| 16:49.41 | Mr_Rabies2 | i mean, it may go for a marginal amount more |
| 16:49.42 | Mr_Rabies2 | but |
| 16:49.54 | Mr_Rabies2 | is it worth it? hrm, i guess i'll check out the AH |
| 16:50.29 | Mr_Rabies2 | i mean i have about 1000 shards, but still |
| 16:51.08 | sag_ich_nicht | lol |
| 16:51.10 | sag_ich_nicht | yes it is |
| 16:51.23 | sag_ich_nicht | recommend me awesome addons that i do not have yet |
| 16:51.27 | sag_ich_nicht | (note, i already have 400+) |
| 16:54.22 | Mr_Rabies2 | ogri'lazy |
| 16:54.53 | sag_ich_nicht | had it already, don't use it, boring. |
| 16:55.15 | sag_ich_nicht | i hit apexis enlightenment with just typing it up, and i like a challenge. |
| 16:56.36 | Rallion | Heh in LotRO character creation, it says "Race of Man" instead of just "Man"...i guess people get confused too easily |
| 16:57.46 | alestane | Tolkien doesn't talk about 'humans', when he says |
| 16:58.02 | alestane | ...'men' he specifically means humans, both male and female. |
| 16:58.19 | alestane | e.g. 'men and elves together'. |
| 16:58.24 | Rallion | exactly |
| 16:59.12 | Rallion | but apparently, they decided that people wouldn't get it...either that or they thought "Man (Female)" would look too odd |
| 16:59.24 | Rallion | also, no dwarf females. heh. |
| 17:00.20 | alestane | You can't create one? |
| 17:00.24 | Rallion | nope |
| 17:00.38 | Rallion | I don't know why, but I'm looking over everything and making fun of it in my head |
| 17:01.16 | Rallion | Elves have a trait called "Sorrow of the Firstborn" that lowers their morale, and I'm just thinking "heh, elves are emo" |
| 17:01.37 | sag_ich_nicht | lol |
| 17:01.39 | alestane | Well, it is true that they NEVER appear in the books...I don't think they're even mentioned in the Silmarillion...still you'd think that with "Gimli, son of Gloin", that would mean that "Wife of Gloin" would have to around somewhere at some point. |
| 17:02.07 | art3mis | elseif (class == DUF_TEXT.Paladin) then |
| 17:02.08 | art3mis | left, right, top, bottom = .25, 0, .5, .75; |
| 17:02.33 | art3mis | oops |
| 17:03.05 | alestane | This guy created a very interesting tabletop roleplaying system called "Burning Wheel", the default world/races are very Tolkien. Humans and dwarves cast magic using a 'faith' trait, but instead of faith elves use 'grief' and orcs use 'blasphemous hatred'. |
| 17:03.28 | art3mis | if (class) then |
| 17:03.28 | art3mis | texture:SetTexture("Interface\\Glues\\CharacterCreate\\UI-CharacterCreate-Classes"); |
| 17:03.28 | art3mis | texture:SetTexCoord(right, left, top, bottom); |
| 17:03.28 | art3mis | end |
| 17:03.40 | art3mis | thats where it sets the class icon right? |
| 17:03.52 | Rallion | alestane, that's pretty cool |
| 17:03.55 | alestane | art3mis: Looks like it. |
| 17:04.17 | art3mis | and that accidental paste from before would be the size of said icon? |
| 17:04.27 | alestane | I do love the idea of 'blasphemous hatred' as a character trait. |
| 17:05.04 | alestane | art3mis: The paste from before looks like where the mod finds the icon for a particular class within the icon group file. |
| 17:05.32 | alestane | Textures can have 'texture coordinates', meaning the part of the file that should be used. |
| 17:05.38 | art3mis | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:05.39 | art3mis | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:06.25 | amro | Rallion: I couldn't find anything about PvP in LotrO, is there any? |
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| 17:07.12 | alestane | That says, "if it's a dwarf then use the part of the image that stretches from one-eitgh of the way from the left as far as halfway, and from one-quarter from the top to three-quarters down, and display that part as the texture." |
| 17:07.18 | art3mis | so if i replace that with elseif (race == DUF_TEXT.Orc) then texture:SetTexture("Interface\\AddoNs\\DUF\\Icons\\Priest.tgz") |
| 17:07.23 | art3mis | err tgha |
| 17:07.25 | art3mis | tga |
| 17:07.41 | art3mis | that should display custom pics? |
| 17:07.52 | alestane | That's basically what you're looking for, yes. |
| 17:07.58 | art3mis | awesome thanks |
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| 17:08.37 | alestane | You might want to reverse it so if the player is horde, it uses the villain icons for the players and party, but that's up to you. |
| 17:08.45 | Rallion | amro, I have no clue |
| 17:08.56 | art3mis | oh that was just an example but yeah |
| 17:09.01 | Rallion | but there's a 7-day free trial now |
| 17:09.11 | zenzelezz | I don't think you include .tga in the SetTexture call |
| 17:09.40 | alestane | zenzelezz is correct I believe. |
| 17:09.47 | Rallion | lol I should make an Elf Hunter named Leggolass or something, see how much THAT pisses people off. |
| 17:09.59 | art3mis | is it still /* */ to comment out a block of code in lua? |
| 17:10.06 | art3mis | or so i just need to -- each line |
| 17:10.07 | zenzelezz | no |
| 17:10.13 | zenzelezz | --[[ |
| 17:10.15 | zenzelezz | ]] |
| 17:10.19 | art3mis | thanks |
| 17:10.27 | amro | Rallion: name already exists |
| 17:10.54 | Rallion | amro, we can always keep trying |
| 17:10.56 | alestane | art3mis: -- at the beginning of a line, --([+n) (]+n) for blocks. |
| 17:11.21 | Rallion | but when it comes time to name your character, it actually gives you a description of naming conventions for the race you pick |
| 17:11.24 | Rallion | neat. |
| 17:11.39 | alestane | i.e. I believe you can also use --[[[ ]]] if you want to. |
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| 17:13.05 | alestane | My bad, it's --[(=*)[ ]%1] |
| 17:13.09 | clad|book | --[======[ Some comment here ]======] |
| 17:13.20 | alestane | so, --[==[ ]==] etc. |
| 17:13.59 | Shirik | --[=======[--[[rawr]]]=======] |
| 17:14.02 | Shirik | it lets you do stuff like that |
| 17:14.08 | Shirik | nested comments are not allowed in Lua |
| 17:14.11 | Shirik | Lua 5.1* |
| 17:14.17 | Shirik | this allows you to overcome that |
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| 17:14.49 | Kaydeethree | woo for getting peered |
| 17:15.14 | Shirik | peered? |
| 17:15.20 | Kaydeethree | [13:14:19] --- Disconnected (Connection reset by peer). |
| 17:15.24 | Shirik | is that like when some guy looks at you and thinks naughty things? |
| 17:15.24 | Shirik | oh |
| 17:15.43 | alestane | What's a situation in which you would actually need long-brackets for literals? |
| 17:15.52 | Shirik | I do it quite often |
| 17:16.02 | Shirik | oh, long brackets bleh |
| 17:16.10 | Shirik | well, let's say you have a block of code you want to comment out |
| 17:16.16 | Shirik | and inside that block is another long comment |
| 17:16.22 | Shirik | this is how you get around that fairly easily |
| 17:17.00 | art3mis | it works yay! |
| 17:17.15 | art3mis | i just set it for class icons |
| 17:17.24 | krka | also for generating lua code and dont want to bother with complex escaping |
| 17:17.30 | art3mis | sicne i cant actually change the mdoels there's no point to doing races ;P |
| 17:17.43 | krka | i think it's used a lot for lua web pages too |
| 17:17.49 | clad|book | aye |
| 17:17.54 | alestane | a string literal in long brackets can contain any combination of single and double quotes, right? |
| 17:18.00 | krka | yes |
| 17:18.07 | krka | also newlines |
| 17:18.20 | Shirik | I tend to use brackets for any SetTexture myself |
| 17:18.28 | Shirik | foo:SetTexture[[Interface\Addons\Whatever]] |
| 17:18.31 | Shirik | Makes things a little cleaner |
| 17:18.47 | Shirik | even though clad|book hates the fact that I skip out on the () |
| 17:19.15 | Cidan | sigh |
| 17:19.25 | Shirik | hai |
| 17:19.29 | alestane | I was going to use it for the indexing code in Demonomicon (I identify spells by texture to avoid localizing), but I wasn't sure about using long-bracket literals in table key definitions. |
| 17:19.32 | Cidan | sup |
| 17:19.52 | clad|book | its just an alternate string constructor |
| 17:19.57 | Shirik | >>> foo = {}; foo[[["rawr"]]] = 4; return foo.rawr; |
| 17:19.57 | Cide | Shirik: [string "foo = {}; foo[[["rawr"]]] = 4; return foo.rawr;"]:1: unexpected symbol near ']' |
| 17:20.01 | Shirik | I think you need a space |
| 17:20.01 | Shirik | iirc |
| 17:20.04 | ScytheBlade1 | Offtopic: everyone here has seen the "can't play wow due to parents and succubus" threads, right? |
| 17:20.06 | Cidan | :D |
| 17:20.15 | Kaydeethree | woo for old trolls |
| 17:20.15 | Shirik | >>> foo = {}; foo[ [[rawr]] ] = 4; return foo.rawr; |
| 17:20.15 | Cide | Shirik: 4 |
| 17:20.23 | ScytheBlade1 | Kaydeethree, nah, this is new |
| 17:20.38 | ScytheBlade1 | And at least entertaining to read. |
| 17:20.55 | ScytheBlade1 | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=1134093574&sid=1&pageNo=1 |
| 17:21.21 | Cidan | >>> foo = {}; foo["hi"] = 4; return foo.hi; |
| 17:21.21 | Cide | Cidan: 4 |
| 17:21.27 | Cidan | wee |
| 17:21.27 | alestane | Right now I have things like: bindings = {["Interface\\Icons\\Spell_Shadow_SummonSuccubus"] = "S", ["Interface\\Icons\\Spell_Shadow_SummonVoidwalker"] = "v"} |
| 17:21.28 | Cidan | sorry |
| 17:21.30 | Cidan | bored. |
| 17:22.16 | Cidan | D: |
| 17:22.21 | ScytheBlade1 | Read that thread. |
| 17:22.35 | ScytheBlade1 | The original is linked in the OP |
| 17:23.32 | Kaydeethree | new PTR diffs up. current build: 7187. http://spyglass-server.com/wowints |
| 17:24.06 | ScytheBlade1 | Wow, three PTR patches in under a week? |
| 17:24.16 | Kaydeethree | it's going to be nightly this week according to hortus |
| 17:24.22 | ScytheBlade1 | Wow |
| 17:24.25 | alestane | I just got 7175 last night, 7187 already? |
| 17:24.45 | Kaydeethree | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=1371457337&sid=1 |
| 17:26.54 | ScytheBlade1 | Ha |
| 17:26.55 | ScytheBlade1 | Nice |
| 17:27.09 | Shirik | alestane: You can make it this if you so desire |
| 17:27.43 | Shirik | >>> bindings = {[ [[Interface\Icons\Spell_Shadow_SummonSuccubus]] ] = "S", [ [[Interface\Icons\Spell_Shadow_SummonVoidwalker]] ] = "v"}; return bindings; |
| 17:27.43 | Cide | Shirik: { ["Interface\\Icons\\Spell_Shadow_SummonVoidwalker"] = "v", ["Interface\\Icons\\Spell_Shadow_SummonSuccubus"] = "S" } (#1) |
| 17:27.49 | Shirik | not entirely sure if I'd recommend it |
| 17:27.51 | Shirik | but you can |
| 17:28.08 | Cidan | god, why would you? |
| 17:28.18 | Shirik | to eliminate the double backslashes |
| 17:28.25 | Cidan | That's silly. |
| 17:28.26 | Shirik | same reason I do foo:SetTexture[[Interface\Addons\Whatever]] |
| 17:28.38 | Cidan | Consider using / |
| 17:28.39 | Shirik | for tables though, it's somewhat ugly |
| 17:28.40 | Shirik | with \\\ |
| 17:28.41 | Cidan | D: |
| 17:28.48 | Shirik | forward slash is for evil unix users |
| 17:28.58 | Cidan | works in WoW |
| 17:29.01 | Shirik | evil |
| 17:29.09 | alestane | Yeah, when it has to go inside of a [] pair anyway I don't think it's any more readable to use [[ ]] for the string. |
| 17:30.00 | Shirik | >>> foo = print; foo[[Interface\Addons "Oh lookie quotes!" 'And more quotes!']] |
| 17:30.00 | Cide | Shirik: "Interface\\Addons \"Oh lookie quotes!\" 'And more quotes!'" |
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| 17:30.08 | Shirik | =P |
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| 17:30.47 | ScytheBlade1 | These patches are going to be painful |
| 17:30.49 | alestane | Why doth it escape the OUTPUT? |
| 17:31.00 | ScytheBlade1 | Because now I have to patch my linux box x3 and then again every night :( |
| 17:31.18 | ScytheBlade1 | Errr |
| 17:31.22 | ScytheBlade1 | I think the ToU changed.. |
| 17:31.27 | ScytheBlade1 | They updated the datestamp on it.. |
| 17:31.33 | Cidan | >>> foo = {}; foo.hai = "Interface/Addons/lolwut/wut.lua"; print(foo.hai); |
| 17:31.33 | Cide | Cidan: "Interface/Addons/lolwut/wut.lua" |
| 17:31.55 | Shirik | ~ban Cidan |
| 17:31.59 | Cidan | :D |
| 17:32.18 | alestane | Will the game recognize forward slashes in asset paths? |
| 17:32.36 | Cidan | Yes, :D |
| 17:32.38 | Shirik | yes |
| 17:32.44 | Shirik | I will go back and change them though |
| 17:32.52 | alestane | Then I'll probably just use those instead of \s. |
| 17:32.58 | Shirik | no! |
| 17:33.00 | Shirik | Don't do it |
| 17:33.01 | Cidan | alestane, wise thing. :D |
| 17:33.03 | Shirik | Don't go to the dark side |
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| 17:33.12 | Cidan | Remember, / came first. |
| 17:33.23 | Shirik | that's a lie |
| 17:33.26 | alestane | Shirik: I'm running OSX, I'm already so on the dark side. |
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| 17:33.42 | Shirik | you should escape your forward slashes |
| 17:33.48 | Cidan | lol |
| 17:33.52 | Shirik | >>> print("\/") |
| 17:33.52 | Cide | Shirik: "/" |
| 17:33.54 | Shirik | see |
| 17:33.56 | alestane | "\/"? |
| 17:33.58 | Cidan | Silly windows programmer, :P |
| 17:33.59 | Shirik | yes |
| 17:34.17 | Shirik | silly windows programmer that can't even get CreateProcess() to work correctly _TT |
| 17:34.19 | Shirik | T_T* |
| 17:34.37 | Shirik | Cidan, where is your friend |
| 17:34.39 | zenzelezz | what's the problem? |
| 17:34.40 | Shirik | I still think you made him up |
| 17:34.57 | Cidan | oh, he never showed last night, huh. |
| 17:35.00 | Shirik | zenzelezz: Who was that directed to? |
| 17:35.08 | Cidan | I'll call him when I'm home. |
| 17:35.11 | zenzelezz | the CreateProcess thing |
| 17:35.14 | Shirik | oh |
| 17:35.21 | Shirik | I've never used it really, always used ShellExecuteEx |
| 17:35.26 | Shirik | so I think I'm just using it wrong |
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| 17:35.33 | Shirik | I have to read the MSDN a bit more closely |
| 17:35.45 | zenzelezz | if you just stick to "default" arguments it usually does what you want |
| 17:35.53 | Shirik | I mostly passed NULL |
| 17:36.05 | Shirik | I don't know if I can pass it for one of those arguments though, and I did |
| 17:38.12 | zenzelezz | whenever I see mention of security descriptors and such crap I pass 0 until it stops working |
| 17:38.13 | zenzelezz | :-p |
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| 17:39.27 | clad|book | ~seen tem |
| 17:39.31 | purl | tem <n=tardmrr@WoWUIDev/WoWI/Dongle/Tem> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowi-lounge, 2d 2h 57m 46s ago, saying: 'meh, I just can't wait to kick ass when they un-nerf me next patch'. |
| 17:41.03 | alestane | Random question, not strictly WoW but I notice it most when I'm playing WoW...I have a keyboard that uses an 'F-Lock' key to toggle between the function keys being Fkeys and being application keys (Mail, Music, etc.). It frequently defaults back to the application setting when I boot, causing me to try and target people with no success (the application keys don't work because I uninstalled the software). However, it doesn't do this consistently, so I |
| 17:41.28 | clad|book | you got cut off at "so I" |
| 17:41.29 | zenzelezz | broke off after "so" |
| 17:41.58 | alestane | ...so I can't just say it's the reboot. Any thoughts? |
| 17:42.22 | zenzelezz | my old Logitech keyboard had an f-lock key that reset every reboot; my new MS keyboard remembers the state... think it depends entirely on the keyboard somehow |
| 17:42.35 | alestane | It is a Logitech USB keyboard. |
| 17:42.39 | Shirik | zenzelezz: That's what I did |
| 17:42.43 | |Jelly| | Hmm. |
| 17:42.51 | Shirik | unfortuantely I don't know what's wrong, but it just doesn't seem to start the process |
| 17:42.52 | |Jelly| | I wonder who has my name! |
| 17:42.55 | |Jelly| | ~seen Jelly |
| 17:42.57 | purl | jelly is currently on #debian (3d 19m 53s). Has said a total of 43 messages. Is idling for 1h 22m 37s, last said: 'bonez39: scp isn't good enough if you have hardlinks, use rsync instead is that's the case'. |
| 17:43.07 | |Jelly| | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:43.10 | cog|work | maybe putting the software back in would make it work? |
| 17:43.13 | Shirik | that's definitely not Jelly lol |
| 17:43.16 | Shirik | too much coding talk |
| 17:43.18 | Shirik | I kid I kid!! |
| 17:43.23 | Shirik | <3 |
| 17:43.23 | alestane | No, it did it when the software was installed too. |
| 17:43.24 | |Jelly| | I don't deny it. |
| 17:43.46 | |Jelly| | Jack of all trades, master of none. I don't mind that title. <3 |
| 17:43.49 | cog|work | weird... i'd've thought the software would have a setting or something |
| 17:44.47 | alestane | Well, there's a light on the keyboard by the key. Seems to be controlled on the hardware end, deciding what signal to send the driver. Of course, the LCC for Mac is notoriously iffy anyway, part of the reason I uninstalled it. |
| 17:46.49 | alestane | The Logitech Control Center also TOTALLY freaked out Gamepad Companion, which I ended up not using anyway, but I think it might have done the same thing to ControllerMate. |
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| 17:49.31 | buu | ARGH |
| 17:49.39 | buu | So many stupid people =[ |
| 17:49.51 | alestane | This is unfortunately true. |
| 17:50.31 | Lunessa | :( |
| 17:51.25 | alestane | What now? |
| 17:52.05 | Lunessa | Wrong window. |
| 17:53.41 | Thunder_Child | 100% of humanity is stupid in one form or another |
| 17:53.44 | Lunessa | I typed the emoticon into the wrong window. |
| 17:54.14 | alestane | Oh, I thought you were saying something about buu's comment...which is actually what I was asking about. |
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| 17:56.02 | Cidan | When I step up in tha place yo I step correeeccttt |
| 17:56.07 | Cidan | WOOHA! |
| 17:57.12 | Cidan | or not. :( |
| 17:59.10 | art3mis | man this HK-IA-UI is awesome |
| 17:59.26 | art3mis | i cant wait to get kitty ears and a bow for all my buttons ;P |
| 17:59.53 | alestane | I'm still at work for three hours art3mis. |
| 18:00.18 | amro | http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/lowbw.html |
| 18:00.31 | amro | well up to date |
| 18:00.57 | amro | New Feature: Paid Character Transfer Service! |
| 18:01.34 | alestane | Over a year out of date...since they don't need it every Tuesday anymore. |
| 18:02.12 | amro | yep, but you'd think they'd do something about it |
| 18:02.28 | alestane | Why, they don't use it anymore. |
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| 18:03.19 | Wraanger | heyaz |
| 18:03.39 | amro | alestane: hence why they should do something about it, like take it offline |
| 18:03.59 | alestane | That requires effort to correct a situation that is not adversely affecting them. |
| 18:04.59 | alestane | If someone were to complain to them that their low-bandwidth site is out of date and misrepresenting them, their repsonse would most likely be to take it down arther than to update it. |
| 18:05.19 | alestane | But I'm guessing noone is even consiously aware of the 'problem.' |
| 18:05.23 | amro | alestane, what effort? taking it down is easy. |
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| 18:07.19 | Rallion | lol I just got "Small boar intestine" in LOTRO....so familiar... |
| 18:08.56 | art3mis | alestane: the best part is that all the links still take you to the high bandwidth stuff ;P |
| 18:10.50 | amro | art3mis: that's why I think they forgot that last page |
| 18:11.40 | art3mis | http://www.gothi.ca/Stuff/hellokitty-ui.jpg |
| 18:11.58 | art3mis | moved some stuff around and made the portraits hello kitty characters ;P |
| 18:12.06 | Kaydeethree | who do I have to kill to prevent that abomination from spreading? |
| 18:12.19 | art3mis | hehe once it's done im totally posting it ;P |
| 18:12.59 | art3mis | of course thers a good chance itll only work/look right on 1680x1050 ;P |
| 18:13.15 | amro | it wont look 'right' anywhere |
| 18:13.43 | amro | I'd suggest doing something about the action buttons |
| 18:16.18 | art3mis | Conductor: Everybody out. This is the last stop on the Manhattan bound L train. You must use the Brooklyn bound L train and connect to the G to the A or C trains for service to Manhattan. [The train empties] Hahaha. Just kidding! Everybody back on. This train is going to Manhattan. |
| 18:16.18 | art3mis | --Manhattan bound L train |
| 18:16.33 | art3mis | yeah they're gonna get ears and a bow ;P |
| 18:23.23 | Lunessa | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=1272362925&sid=1 - make the bad people STOP. |
| 18:24.16 | quakenet | hi all |
| 18:24.25 | *** join/#wowi-lounge vulture_ (n=vulture@12-216-41-185.client.mchsi.com) |
| 18:24.25 | snegoviK | quakenet wtf? |
| 18:25.14 | snegoviK | guys, is it possible to apply regex operators to a capture like so : "(%d+g)?" |
| 18:26.03 | [dRaCo] | what's that supposed to do? |
| 18:26.40 | *** join/#wowi-lounge KarlThePagan (n=andross@lanip-170-65.go180.net) |
| 18:26.51 | snegoviK | capture something like 24g but 24g might not be there so i put ? after |
| 18:27.46 | [dRaCo] | don't think that'll work |
| 18:29.07 | snegoviK | its not possible to apply an operator to a capture then? |
| 18:29.27 | snegoviK | lua>= string.match("24g634g", "(%d+g)+") |
| 18:29.27 | cladbot | snegoviK: sandbox.lua:260: Compilation failed: string.match("24g634g", "(%d+g)+"):1: unexpected symbol near '=' |
| 18:29.38 | snegoviK | lua>string.match("24g634g", "(%d+g)+"); |
| 18:29.38 | cladbot | snegoviK: nil, |
| 18:29.59 | Wraanger | what exactly you are trying to do, Sneg ? |
| 18:30.20 | snegoviK | do perl/php-like regexp matching : ) |
| 18:30.38 | [dRaCo] | ~pil |
| 18:30.38 | purl | [pil] Programming in Lua. The first edition is available free online at http://www.lua.org/pil and covers Lua 5.0. The second edition is available in hardcover and covers Lua 5.1. |
| 18:30.42 | [dRaCo] | tada. |
| 18:30.57 | [dRaCo] | check that one, there's a great page about lua patterns |
| 18:32.40 | snegoviK | thanks |
| 18:32.46 | snegoviK | "goes reading" |
| 18:32.57 | clad|book | purl, no, pil is Programming in Lua, a book written by the authors of the Lua programming language. The first edition is available free online at http://www.lua.org/pil and covers Lua 5.0. The second edition is available in print from most online bookstores, and covers Lua 5.1. |
| 18:32.58 | purl | okay, clad|book |
| 18:35.10 | Shirik | snegoviK: You were right |
| 18:35.12 | Shirik | well, sorta |
| 18:35.18 | Shirik | first off, you have an extra space in there |
| 18:35.24 | Shirik | secondly, you can't put that + at the end like that |
| 18:35.41 | Shirik | >>> string.match("24g634g", "(%d+g)") |
| 18:35.41 | Cide | Shirik: "24g" |
| 18:35.49 | Shirik | your only alternative is something like gsub |
| 18:35.52 | Shirik | or gmatch |
| 18:36.00 | Shirik | >>> string.gmatch("24g634g", "(%d+g)") |
| 18:36.01 | Cide | Shirik: function: 007C1F98 |
| 18:36.27 | Shirik | >>> local iter = string.gmatch("24g634g", "(%d+g)"); for n in iter do print(n) end |
| 18:36.28 | Cide | Shirik: "24g", "634g" |
| 18:37.02 | Shirik | >>> string.gsub("24g634g", "(%d+g)", print) |
| 18:37.03 | Cide | Shirik: "24g", "634g" |
| 18:39.54 | snegoviK | i see |
| 18:40.40 | snegoviK | yea patterns in lua do not use POSIX regexp like in php / pearl because that library is bigger than the whole lua language :) |
| 18:40.48 | snegoviK | perl* |
| 18:41.42 | Industrial | not being able to do or "(|)" sucks |
| 18:42.08 | clad|book | compile lpeg |
| 18:42.37 | Industrial | I only use lua with wow |
| 18:42.47 | clad|book | nub |
| 18:45.04 | snegoviK | it depends what you matching, some stuff can be much easier with lua patterns |
| 18:45.26 | ScytheBlade1 | can be, sure |
| 18:45.34 | ScytheBlade1 | But I'd still <3 the POSIX regexps in WoW |
| 18:45.56 | snegoviK | request it for ace3 lol :))))) |
| 18:46.00 | ScytheBlade1 | lol |
| 18:47.30 | Industrial | that might be fun lets see what happens :-> |
| 18:47.45 | snegoviK | i think you will get told off :D |
| 18:47.55 | snegoviK | badly ^~ |
| 18:48.33 | snegoviK | especially after some talks i ve read on here about making ace3 lighter and cutting out all the goo |
| 18:49.28 | Industrial | wich is very good imho \o/ |
| 18:49.53 | Industrial | (you should skim over my post log on wowace.com, lol)\ |
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| 18:50.47 | snegoviK | this string.gmatch is awesome |
| 18:50.58 | snegoviK | thnx shirik |
| 18:51.10 | *** join/#wowi-lounge Cidan (i=feh@ip68-98-130-180.dc.dc.cox.net) |
| 18:51.25 | Cidan | pewpewpew |
| 18:51.26 | Thunder_Child | ~lart Cidan |
| 18:51.26 | purl | slaps Cidan around with a large trout |
| 18:51.29 | Cidan | :( |
| 18:51.34 | Shirik | snegoviK: =) |
| 18:52.03 | Shirik | I have determined that I now hate wchar_t |
| 18:52.07 | Shirik | or char |
| 18:52.09 | Shirik | one of the two |
| 18:53.22 | zenzelezz | why is that? |
| 18:53.45 | Shirik | because argv is a char* and moving back and forth is making my brain hurt |
| 18:54.53 | zenzelezz | why are you using argv in a Windows program? You should have a single, long string that you can pass to CommandLineToArgV or something like that to get a wide-char (unicode) argv list |
| 18:55.15 | Polarina | What's the purpose of Ace by the way? |
| 18:55.57 | Cidan | it's an all-in-one library for common functions |
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| 18:56.08 | Polarina | Cidan: WoW too. |
| 18:56.22 | Cidan | eh? |
| 18:56.36 | snegoviK | purpose of wow is to waste your time |
| 18:56.38 | Shirik | zenzelezz: I've never heard of CommandLineToArgV |
| 18:56.51 | snegoviK | in an entertaining way : ) |
| 18:56.53 | Thunder_Child | snegoviK, and it works to |
| 18:57.42 | *** join/#wowi-lounge Lin (n=igor@unaffiliated/lincity) |
| 18:57.55 | Lin | any french here? |
| 18:58.03 | Lin | good (UGT) morning! |
| 18:58.15 | snegoviK | >>> os.date() |
| 18:58.16 | Cide | snegoviK: [string "os.date()"]:1: attempt to call field 'date' (a nil value) |
| 18:58.25 | snegoviK | lua> os.date() |
| 18:58.25 | cladbot | snegoviK: Thu Aug 30 14:54:31 2007, |
| 18:58.28 | snegoviK | bwahahaha |
| 18:58.29 | snegoviK | pwned |
| 18:58.36 | [dRaCo] | got french fries... |
| 18:58.42 | [dRaCo] | aight... not that funny. |
| 18:59.06 | Lin | serious |
| 18:59.11 | zenzelezz | Shirik: I think the LPSTR command line in the WinMain function is always ASCII, and you pass it to CommandLineToArgvW and get a wide-string argv[] I think |
| 18:59.25 | cog|work | WTF is wrong with credit card companies? |
| 18:59.31 | Polarina | lua> for i = 1, 24 do i = 1 end |
| 18:59.31 | cladbot | Polarina: |
| 18:59.37 | Polarina | Hmm... |
| 18:59.48 | [dRaCo] | cog: whatup? |
| 19:00.08 | Cidan | lua> for i=1,24 do print(i); end |
| 19:00.08 | cladbot | Cidan: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20, 21, 22, 23, 24 |
| 19:00.25 | cog|work | A while back one of my cards raised the rate by nearly 10 points because we had high balances. We paid off the balances almost completely and I called them to get the interest rate back down and they'll only reduce it by 2 points at a time every 6 months :| |
| 19:00.30 | Polarina | lua> for i = 1, 24 do print(i); i = 1; end |
| 19:00.30 | cladbot | Polarina: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20, 21, 22, 23, 24 |
| 19:00.35 | Polarina | Odd.. |
| 19:00.44 | Cidan | no, not odd |
| 19:00.47 | Polarina | Why? |
| 19:00.49 | Cidan | i = 1, yes |
| 19:00.53 | Cidan | but then on the loop |
| 19:00.53 | Thunder_Child | cog|work, new cards maybe |
| 19:00.55 | cog|work | Now, I get a letter saying they raised my credit limit because of my "excellent history" with the account ! |
| 19:00.56 | Cidan | i = iter |
| 19:01.11 | [dRaCo] | weirdos. |
| 19:01.36 | Cidan | lua> for i=1,24 do i = 1; print(i); end |
| 19:01.36 | cladbot | Cidan: 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1 |
| 19:01.39 | Cidan | See? |
| 19:01.42 | Polarina | Yes. |
| 19:01.54 | cog|work | oh and the limit increase was >25%! |
| 19:02.01 | Polarina | lua> for i=1,24,0 do end |
| 19:02.01 | cladbot | Polarina: |
| 19:02.07 | Polarina | That is odd. |
| 19:02.12 | cog|work | I think they're just trying to rape me with the new interest rate |
| 19:02.26 | Cidan | how? |
| 19:02.29 | Thunder_Child | cog|work, not weird, they let you play with more money...you have a history of high balances = higher interest rate |
| 19:03.03 | Polarina | lua> while (true) do end |
| 19:03.10 | Polarina | Much better! |
| 19:03.12 | Cidan | will timeout |
| 19:03.12 | cladbot | Polarina: sandbox.lua:140: maximum execution time (5s) exceeded |
| 19:03.15 | Cidan | see? |
| 19:03.17 | Polarina | :@ |
| 19:03.34 | Polarina | lua> end |
| 19:03.35 | cladbot | Polarina: sandbox.lua:260: Compilation failed: [string "end"]:1: '<eof>' expected near 'end' |
| 19:03.36 | snegoviK | lua> for i=48,57 do print(string.char(i)); end |
| 19:03.37 | cladbot | snegoviK: 0, 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9 |
| 19:03.45 | Cidan | Don't bother trying to fool the bot, you're not the first one to try. |
| 19:03.49 | Polarina | lua> end if (false) |
| 19:03.49 | cladbot | Polarina: sandbox.lua:260: Compilation failed: [string "end if (false)"]:1: '<eof>' expected near 'end' |
| 19:03.49 | Shirik | zenzelezz: Doesn't really matter, I figured it out |
| 19:03.50 | Shirik | but meh |
| 19:03.54 | Cidan | And you won't be the last, I'm afraid |
| 19:04.04 | Shirik | in any case, now that I have finally made it work |
| 19:04.09 | Polarina | Cidan: :( |
| 19:04.13 | Shirik | I attached a manifest to it and suddenly it stops working again |
| 19:04.13 | snegoviK | the bots are very clever |
| 19:04.15 | Shirik | without changing any code |
| 19:04.16 | Cidan | You mean by using / and not \\? |
| 19:04.17 | Cidan | :D |
| 19:04.17 | Shirik | which impressed me |
| 19:04.24 | Polarina | lua> print(GetSellValue(7005)) |
| 19:04.25 | cladbot | Polarina: [string "print(GetSellValue(7005))"]:1: attempt to call global 'GetSellValue' (a nil value) |
| 19:04.26 | Shirik | which results in me now knowing it is time for me to go eat :P |
| 19:05.12 | zenzelezz | working with both char and wchar_t at the same time does hurt |
| 19:05.18 | Polarina | lua> math.floor(5.5) |
| 19:05.18 | cladbot | Polarina: 5, |
| 19:05.44 | Polarina | lua> math.floor = function() return 123 end |
| 19:05.44 | cladbot | Polarina: |
| 19:05.51 | Polarina | lua> math.floor(5.5) |
| 19:05.51 | cladbot | Polarina: 123, |
| 19:05.54 | Polarina | xD |
| 19:06.01 | Polarina | I found a bug in that poor bot. |
| 19:06.09 | Polarina | lua> math.floor = nil |
| 19:06.09 | cladbot | Polarina: |
| 19:06.17 | Polarina | lua> math.floor(5.5) |
| 19:06.17 | cladbot | Polarina: [string "math.floor(5.5)"]:1: attempt to call field 'floor' (a nil value) |
| 19:06.22 | Cidan | that's not a bug |
| 19:06.36 | Cidan | It's just how lua works |
| 19:06.36 | Polarina | What then? |
| 19:06.45 | Cidan | You can do it in WoW too |
| 19:06.45 | *** join/#wowi-lounge wereHamster (n=tomc@neopsis.com) |
| 19:06.54 | wereHamster | bleeter, ping |
| 19:06.55 | Cidan | in anything that uses lua really |
| 19:07.11 | amro | Cidan: if the bot is meant to sandbox each call then it's a bug |
| 19:07.32 | Cidan | not sure it's meant to be a sandbox though |
| 19:07.37 | Cidan | I mean to an extent, perhaps |
| 19:08.44 | amro | lua> math.floor(2.3) |
| 19:08.44 | cladbot | amro: [string "math.floor(2.3)"]:1: attempt to call field 'floor' (a nil value) |
| 19:08.54 | amro | but now math.floor is nuked |
| 19:09.43 | Polarina | lua> table.foreach(_G, function(ind, _) _G[ind] = nil end); |
| 19:09.43 | cladbot | Polarina: [string "table.foreach(_G, function(ind, _) _G[ind] ..."]:1: attempt to index global '_G' (a nil value) |
| 19:09.49 | Polarina | Damit! |
| 19:10.58 | Polarina | lua> math = nil; string = nil; os = nil; coroutines = nil; table = nil; collectgarbage("collect") collectgarbage = nil; |
| 19:10.58 | cladbot | Polarina: |
| 19:11.05 | Cidan | good job. |
| 19:11.08 | Polarina | Thanks. |
| 19:11.08 | Cidan | What the fuck are you doing? |
| 19:11.26 | Cidan | God damned moron. |
| 19:11.31 | Cidan | clad|book, ping. |
| 19:11.42 | Polarina | Cidan: Messing with that bot. Showing you a bug in it. xD |
| 19:12.00 | AnduinLothar | that's not a bug, that's missues |
| 19:12.08 | Polarina | Security bug? |
| 19:12.08 | AnduinLothar | missuse* |
| 19:12.17 | Cidan | no, it's not a security bug. |
| 19:12.17 | AnduinLothar | there is no security. |
| 19:12.18 | Cidan | ~pil |
| 19:12.19 | purl | extra, extra, read all about it, pil is Programming in Lua, a book written by the authors of the Lua programming language. The first edition is available free online at http://www.lua.org/pil and covers Lua 5.0. The second edition is available in print from most online bookstores, and covers Lua 5.1. |
| 19:12.21 | Cidan | Go read. |
| 19:12.29 | Polarina | Ok. |
| 19:12.30 | Cidan | Christ. |
| 19:12.46 | snegoviK | is it broken now? i was about to ask a question |
| 19:12.53 | Cidan | yes, yes it is. |
| 19:12.54 | zenzelezz | >>> math.floor(20) |
| 19:12.55 | Cide | zenzelezz: 20 |
| 19:13.05 | zenzelezz | lua> math.floor(20) |
| 19:13.06 | cladbot | zenzelezz: [string "math.floor(20)"]:1: attempt to call field 'floor' (a nil value) |
| 19:13.38 | snegoviK | dont break teh bot guys, its a feature of the channel not a hack challenge |
| 19:13.39 | snegoviK | sheesh |
| 19:13.55 | Polarina | Sorry, thought it was a hack challange... :( |
| 19:15.16 | snegoviK | >>> iter = string.gmatch("somegaystringiwontmatch", "%d"); for n in iter do print(n); end |
| 19:15.17 | Cide | snegoviK: nil |
| 19:15.25 | snegoviK | hm it doesnt work on my pc |
| 19:17.08 | Lunessa | I feel left out. Cog made a nice new toy that would make my forum haunting easier, I'm left out in the cold. |
| 19:17.15 | Cidan | You know, I should really beat Metal Gear Solid 2 some day. |
| 19:17.20 | Cidan | Then perhaps work on MGS3 |
| 19:17.49 | snegoviK | weird on my pc the thing doesnt print out nil, it doesnt shout about nil error either |
| 19:19.33 | snegoviK | >>> iter = string.gmatch("somegaystringiwontmatch", "%d"); for n in iter do print("heh" .. n); end |
| 19:19.34 | Cide | snegoviK: nil |
| 19:20.43 | snegoviK | how can i check that gmatch matched something? |
| 19:20.58 | snegoviK | for n in iter do if n == nil then print("lol"); end end doesnt work |
| 19:21.29 | snegoviK | i mean i want to make sure gmatch matched something |
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| 19:24.51 | wereHamster | snegoviK, iter = string.gmatch("somegaystringiwontmatch", "%d"); iter() == ?? (just need to find out what ?? actually is .. |
| 19:25.04 | snegoviK | it says its a function |
| 19:25.13 | snegoviK | and gives me a pointer value i presume |
| 19:25.28 | snegoviK | function: 0032EB20 |
| 19:25.30 | snegoviK | like so |
| 19:25.39 | wereHamster | 'iter' is a function, yes, but what does it return? print(type(iter())) gives: bad argument #1 to 'type' (value expected) |
| 19:26.38 | wereHamster | havematch = string.gmatch("somegaystringiwontmatch", "%d"); if (havematch()) then .. end |
| 19:27.12 | snegoviK | oh i see , so to check whether function exists you just try calling it? |
| 19:27.29 | snegoviK | or what exactly are you checking with if(havematch())? |
| 19:28.00 | wereHamster | this function does _always_ exist, it's an iterator, it _has_ to exist |
| 19:28.08 | wereHamster | you' |
| 19:28.15 | snegoviK | so what does if(havematch()) check ? |
| 19:28.28 | wereHamster | r checking the return value, you call the function, and see what it returns |
| 19:28.35 | Polarina | Could anyone comment on my addon Valuation? Thank you. :) |
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| 19:29.02 | snegoviK | ah, i understand now, thnx |
| 19:29.58 | alestane | art3mis: Someone just posted some sample bunny ears for your minimap in the thread. |
| 19:30.01 | snegoviK | where are you from Polarina ? |
| 19:30.20 | Polarina | snegoviK: Planet earth. |
| 19:30.50 | wereHamster | Galactic Sector ZZ9 Plural Z Alpha |
| 19:30.51 | Cidan | Nice mod |
| 19:31.01 | Polarina | Cidan: Thanks. |
| 19:31.05 | Cidan | good to use if you don't want the whole Enchantrix suite. |
| 19:31.45 | snegoviK | enchantrix shows you what the stuff disenchants to |
| 19:32.01 | snegoviK | which is handy only when you are levelling enchanting :) |
| 19:32.08 | snegoviK | afterwards its just a waste of ram |
| 19:32.52 | snegoviK | i.e. when you are on ah, to see what item will give you the required reagent when disenchant |
| 19:32.52 | snegoviK | ed |
| 19:32.57 | Cidan | Enchantrix is part of Auctioneer which shows prices as well |
| 19:33.01 | snegoviK | very useful if you are respeccing |
| 19:33.03 | Cidan | Hence |
| 19:33.06 | Cidan | "suite" |
| 19:33.28 | snegoviK | well yea, its a bit nasty that way |
| 19:33.36 | Cidan | Right. :D |
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| 19:35.33 | Cidan | mm, ice cream |
| 19:35.42 | art3mis | http://www.mmorpg.com/contests/lotro_promo.cfm |
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| 19:38.36 | Polarina | I'm going to reduce its memory usage to about 70 KiB. |
| 19:38.56 | amro_ | We are sorry, but you must reside in North America (US and Canada) to participate in this sweepstakes. |
| 19:39.03 | clad|book | Cidan: pong |
| 19:39.03 | snegoviK | does it use some fancy compression technique? |
| 19:39.17 | Polarina | snegoviK: No. |
| 19:39.28 | Cidan | clad|book, your bot needs to be rebooted/reloaded |
| 19:39.37 | Cidan | Someone decided it'd be cute to do math = nil, etc, etc |
| 19:39.41 | snegoviK | how do you reduce its memory usage then ? |
| 19:39.55 | Polarina | clad|book: I'm sorry, I'm sorry. Sorry. I'll never do it again. |
| 19:40.01 | Polarina | I promise. |
| 19:40.15 | snegoviK | 5g if you do it again :P |
| 19:40.18 | snegoviK | rofl |
| 19:40.20 | Polarina | Deal. |
| 19:40.20 | Cidan | lol |
| 19:40.30 | amro_ | clad|book: isn't every call sandboxed? |
| 19:40.37 | clad|book | yes, it is. |
| 19:40.47 | Polarina | lua> math.floor(5.5) |
| 19:40.47 | cladbot | Polarina: [string "math.floor(5.5)"]:1: attempt to call field 'floor' (a nil value) |
| 19:40.52 | clad|book | lua> math |
| 19:40.52 | cladbot | clad|book: <table: #6> |
| 19:40.59 | clad|book | lua> for k,v in pairs(math) do print(k,v) end |
| 19:40.59 | cladbot | clad|book: log, function: 0x806f880, acos, function: 0x806f500, huge, inf, ldexp, function: 0x806f800, pi, 3.1415926535898, cos, function: 0x806f680, tanh, function: 0x806fb40, pow, function: 0x806f980, deg, function: 0x806f6c0, tan, function: 0x806fb80, cosh, funct... (result truncated) |
| 19:41.11 | clad|book | lua> math.log(2) |
| 19:41.11 | cladbot | clad|book: 0.69314718055995, |
| 19:41.23 | Polarina | I'll fix it. |
| 19:41.36 | Polarina | lua> function math.floor(x) x - x % 1 end |
| 19:41.36 | cladbot | Polarina: sandbox.lua:260: Compilation failed: [string "function math.floor(x) x - x % 1 end"]:1: '=' expected near '-' |
| 19:41.44 | clad|book | i don't need you to fix it.. thanks. |
| 19:41.46 | Polarina | Ups. |
| 19:41.54 | Cidan | I'd just stop now, Polarina, :D |
| 19:42.00 | Polarina | lua> function math.floor(x) return x - x % 1 end |
| 19:42.00 | cladbot | Polarina: |
| 19:42.06 | Polarina | lua> math.floor(5.5) |
| 19:42.17 | Polarina | ...? |
| 19:42.27 | Cidan | Just, stop. Move on. |
| 19:42.37 | clad|book | lol |
| 19:42.37 | Polarina | Ok.. |
| 19:42.54 | clad|book | trying to figure out how you hosed math.floor |
| 19:43.13 | Polarina | I did lua> math.floor = nil; |
| 19:43.18 | alestane | she typed math.floor = nil. |
| 19:43.20 | clad|book | yes.. and that shouldn't have affected anything. |
| 19:43.27 | clad|book | i know _how_ you did it.. just trying to figure out why it worked. |
| 19:43.35 | Polarina | But lua> math = nil; didn't affect anything... |
| 19:43.48 | clad|book | as well it shoulodn't. |
| 19:43.51 | amro_ | Polarina: you found a bug after all |
| 19:44.06 | Polarina | amro_: That's what I was trying to tell you all the time! |
| 19:44.20 | clad|book | Polarina: how new are you to this community? |
| 19:44.35 | Polarina | clad|book: Pretty new. But not to programming. |
| 19:44.37 | alestane | clad|book: Do you reset __newindex for _G? |
| 19:44.47 | clad|book | alestane: you don't have any access to _G |
| 19:44.48 | clad|book | so no |
| 19:45.01 | clad|book | Polarina: Okay, I'll say this much.. "It shows" |
| 19:45.08 | Polarina | Shows what? |
| 19:45.15 | clad|book | that you are new to this community |
| 19:45.20 | Polarina | Ok. |
| 19:45.24 | clad|book | and i'll leave that.. at that. |
| 19:45.30 | clad|book | and get back to fixing the bot. |
| 19:45.34 | Polarina | Thanks. |
| 19:46.03 | snegoviK | ... on the other hand, is pitbull discontinued ? |
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| 19:46.27 | alestane | Say what? |
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| 19:46.51 | alestane | It won't be for long if it is, way too many people interested in it for someone not to pick it up. |
| 19:47.06 | Cidan | Oh Cladhaire, I wish we could all be as elegant with our words. |
| 19:47.07 | Cidan | :D |
| 19:47.10 | snegoviK | i have no idea, i m just asking |
| 19:47.14 | clad|book | the sandbox isn't generating a new table for math each time, not sure why that is. |
| 19:47.34 | Lunessa | snegoviK: It's not dicontinued. |
| 19:48.06 | snegoviK | is it worth posting on wowace.com? its the only place i managed to classify is pitbull web-site |
| 19:48.13 | snegoviK | i have a few requests :P |
| 19:48.39 | snegoviK | as a pitbull web-site* |
| 19:48.57 | snegoviK | its just a bit scary how many people write stuff there |
| 19:49.11 | snegoviK | makes me feel bad adding something to the requests :) |
| 19:49.25 | snegoviK | makes me think ckk doesnt check that place at all now |
| 19:49.28 | Lunessa | CKknight would be really shocked to find out he'd given up on pitbull. |
| 19:49.29 | ckknight | it's not discontinued |
| 19:49.35 | ckknight | yes, I would be |
| 19:50.02 | snegoviK | ckk, so where exactly is pitbull web-site? |
| 19:50.07 | ckknight | wowace.com |
| 19:50.20 | snegoviK | is it ok to post requests there? |
| 19:50.46 | snegoviK | or since you are here now, would you like me to pm you? :) |
| 19:50.50 | ckknight | yea, there's a forum for it |
| 19:52.37 | Cidan | /msg ckknight I totally have a request for your hot hot bod. |
| 19:52.38 | Cidan | er |
| 19:53.07 | ckknight | up to your old antics again |
| 19:53.12 | art3mis | laugh |
| 19:53.17 | Cidan | I never stop, :D |
| 19:53.23 | art3mis | i read that as "a request for your hot dead body" |
| 19:53.28 | art3mis | im not really sure why |
| 19:53.42 | Cidan | I think it's because you have a secret desire. |
| 19:53.57 | alestane | "You're tuned into WTMI...More than you EVER wanted to know!" |
| 19:53.59 | art3mis | that could be |
| 19:54.15 | art3mis | wtmi? |
| 19:54.36 | art3mis | i dont think i get that channel ;) |
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| 19:55.11 | art3mis | snegoviK: it should be noted that ckk is a jerk and you can type til your fingers bleed for requests and he still prolly wont do em ;P |
| 19:55.25 | ckknight | it depends on whether I care or not |
| 19:55.33 | ckknight | (and whether I receive donations or not) |
| 19:55.34 | Mr_Rabies2 | man |
| 19:55.38 | ckknight | which actually goes back to the caring part |
| 19:55.43 | art3mis | and you generally being apathetic has a big hand in that ;P |
| 19:55.49 | Cidan | actually |
| 19:55.55 | Cidan | that goes back to the jerk part, IMO |
| 19:55.57 | Cidan | ;x |
| 19:55.59 | art3mis | heh |
| 19:56.04 | Mr_Rabies2 | ckknight took one of my suggestions and managed to put it in in a couple hours D: |
| 19:56.17 | art3mis | snegoviK: you'll also note that at no point did he actually dispute my claim ;P |
| 19:56.25 | ckknight | Cidan: no, it's about prioritization |
| 19:56.31 | ckknight | I have other priorities, things to be done |
| 19:56.32 | Cidan | I'm just messin' with ya. |
| 19:56.49 | clad|book | Polarina: Feel free to try breaking the bot, just do it in #luabot, and let me know what happens when you break it |
| 19:56.50 | clad|book | however, |
| 19:57.01 | clad|book | lua> for k,v in pairs(math) do math[k] = nil end math = nil end |
| 19:57.01 | cladbot | clad|book: sandbox.lua:268: Compilation failed: [string "for k,v in pairs(math) do math[k] = nil end math = nil end"]:1: '<eof>' expected near 'end' |
| 19:57.04 | clad|book | lua> for k,v in pairs(math) do math[k] = nil end math = nil |
| 19:57.04 | cladbot | clad|book: |
| 19:57.06 | clad|book | lua> math |
| 19:57.06 | cladbot | clad|book: { ["log"] = function: 0x806f880, ["acos"] = function: 0x806f500, ["atan"] = function: 0x806f5c0, ["ldexp"] = function: 0x806f800, ["ceil"] = function: 0x806f600, ["exp"] = function: 0x806f700, ["atan2"] = function: 0x806f580, ["log10"] = function: 0x806f8... (result truncated) |
| 19:57.10 | Mr_Rabies2 | whoa |
| 19:57.12 | clad|book | lua> math.floor(3.1) |
| 19:57.12 | cladbot | clad|book: 3, |
| 19:57.39 | clad|book | i had a very VERY bad error in my recursive env copy |
| 19:57.50 | Polarina | :) |
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| 19:58.05 | alestane | Speaking of feature response, I'm still amazed that Slouken took one of my suggestions and dropped it into a patch that was ALREADY ON the PTR. |
| 19:58.26 | Cidan | what was that? |
| 19:58.38 | art3mis | clad|book: did it have a comment above it that reads //added this while i was drinking sambuca let's see if alcohol makes mea better coder ? |
| 19:58.52 | alestane | 'actionpage' attribute for action bar frames. |
| 19:59.08 | cog|work | alestane: damn you |
| 19:59.12 | clad|book | art3mis: hehe sadly no, that would have been fun. |
| 19:59.21 | cog|work | I have to rewrite half my taint chapter because of that :P |
| 19:59.44 | art3mis | clad|book: some of my old muds best coments involve the words drunk and "don't know" |
| 19:59.48 | alestane | Take a look at ActionButton_GetPagedID in the latest builds (and MultiActionBars.xml). |
| 20:00.01 | clad|book | alestane: oh trust me.. he's looked |
| 20:00.03 | alestane | cog|work: What, did I kill one of your examples? |
| 20:00.03 | art3mis | rabbit still has the best comment in any lua i've seen |
| 20:00.04 | clad|book | he's pissed too :P |
| 20:00.27 | cog|work | alestane: only the one example that I use as the foundation for every other example of taint :P |
| 20:00.41 | art3mis | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:01.03 | amro | is it possible to modify glues? |
| 20:01.21 | Lunessa | chemically? /chuckles/ |
| 20:01.21 | clad|book | no |
| 20:01.29 | alestane | clad|book: Why, did I also break CT_BarMod or something? |
| 20:01.30 | amro | :( |
| 20:01.34 | art3mis | you could add more flour |
| 20:01.43 | clad|book | alestane: no, you broke the book |
| 20:02.00 | clad|book | :P |
| 20:02.10 | alestane | I thought you meant Cidan was also pissed. |
| 20:02.25 | clad|book | oh no, did i have a bad tab complete? |
| 20:02.29 | clad|book | just cogwheel :P |
| 20:02.33 | clad|book | and Cidan ~= Cide |
| 20:02.38 | art3mis | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:02.40 | Cidan | lulz |
| 20:02.48 | alestane | My 'take a look' remark was directed at Cidan who asked what the suggestion was. |
| 20:03.14 | alestane | Which one is the CTMod one? |
| 20:04.26 | Lunessa | " I love the taint!" --- sounds so wrong. SO WRONG. |
| 20:05.51 | cog|work | iCar http://www.vnunet.com/vnunet/news/2197720/apple-vw-rumored-planning-icar |
| 20:06.16 | art3mis | i hope it's an E class |
| 20:06.44 | art3mis | iCar-E |
| 20:06.46 | alestane | Disturbing. |
| 20:08.23 | cog|work | art3mis: i c wut u did ther |
| 20:08.57 | art3mis | <-- iz teh witzy |
| 20:10.09 | cog|work | i care |
| 20:10.25 | alestane | I guess. |
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| 20:10.53 | alestane | (Yes, the person at the keyboard is male, but since the toon is not, those pronouns tend to get used.) |
| 20:10.54 | cog|work | about as "gettable" as 4 GNMRGN, my new license plate :P |
| 20:11.15 | alestane | I saw an SUV with a license plate that actually said ROFLMAO |
| 20:11.23 | alestane | cog|work: seriously? |
| 20:11.29 | cog|work | yep :) |
| 20:11.46 | art3mis | did you ran yer datsun into it pull him out and beat him to death with his ipod? |
| 20:11.51 | art3mis | ram |
| 20:12.08 | alestane | Dude, Datsuns haven't been made in decades? |
| 20:12.14 | art3mis | and? |
| 20:12.15 | cog|work | datsun became nissan |
| 20:12.29 | art3mis | why would you assume that he has a new car? |
| 20:13.04 | art3mis | cog owns a datsum truck with 15 pine fresheners hanging from the review and a map of dakota from 1986 |
| 20:13.04 | alestane | My car is a 1996...definitely not a Datsun. |
| 20:13.11 | art3mis | datsun |
| 20:13.13 | cog|work | art3mis: no, that's Cairenn|afk |
| 20:16.12 | alestane | cog|work: Sorry about your book. |
| 20:16.40 | cog|work | hehe |
| 20:16.51 | cog|work | it's all for the better imo |
| 20:17.05 | alestane | So open question: How long do you think we'll have after 2.2 goes live before 2.3 hits the PTR? |
| 20:17.19 | Kaydeethree | a few weeks |
| 20:17.25 | cog|work | yeah. probably not very long |
| 20:17.44 | alestane | I mean, 2.2 going to have been on the PTR for almost three months, am I wrong? |
| 20:17.54 | Kaydeethree | nearly 6 weeks now |
| 20:18.10 | alestane | So about two months between PTR launch and live release. |
| 20:18.11 | |Jelly| | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=1271913105&sid=1&pageNo=1 lewl |
| 20:18.56 | cog|work | haha! |
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| 20:20.18 | alestane | Most people seem to think it's their own damn fault for falling for it I notice. |
| 20:20.37 | alestane | Which it is at least in part I guess. |
| 20:20.40 | |Jelly| | Most people want to QQ because they're silly. |
| 20:21.14 | cog|work | hence, bad links will no longer dc people in the future |
| 20:21.18 | clad|book | My name generator is FINALLY on eight character names, starting with a |
| 20:21.22 | cog|work | server will strip the escape codes |
| 20:22.16 | alestane | So if it's not in your server item cache, it won't be a link? |
| 20:22.56 | alestane | I mean, my understanding is that this can only work in BG/arena chat to begin with, since that's the only time chat ever crosses realms. |
| 20:23.30 | cog|work | yeah. it'll also work for manually generated links |
| 20:23.43 | cog|work | like mods that store items you've seen, then you change servers and some become invalid |
| 20:23.44 | alestane | Whether or not gullibility FTL, if the other team posted the link with that intent it's still cheap. |
| 20:24.58 | alestane | Fooling someone else into forfeiting falls under "unsportsmanlike conduct" imo. |
| 20:25.17 | Kaydeethree | http://aycu34.webshots.com/image/25793/2005613275438082436_rs.jpg |
| 20:25.21 | Kaydeethree | woo for ptr bugsd |
| 20:25.25 | Kaydeethree | s/bugsd/bugs/ |
| 20:26.49 | art3mis | thats a pretty nice rating change |
| 20:26.53 | art3mis | ;) |
| 20:27.11 | Tuller | so someone link me a blp viewer because i'm lazy :) |
| 20:27.23 | alestane | That value that looks pretty close to 2^32? |
| 20:28.28 | snegoviK | its not just a ptr bug |
| 20:28.31 | snegoviK | there is one live |
| 20:28.46 | snegoviK | scares the shit at of you when you play in 2.2k rating team |
| 20:29.00 | snegoviK | thankfully the game doesnt change ratings in this happens |
| 20:29.04 | snegoviK | if* |
| 20:32.12 | |Jelly| | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=1371407484&sid=1 Post #4 |
| 20:32.17 | |Jelly| | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:32.44 | Valaron|Work | Haha |
| 20:33.00 | Kaydeethree | lmao... |
| 20:33.06 | alestane | <3 Peppy |
| 20:33.19 | Valaron|Work | Tell him to get off his fat-pizza-eating ass, and go work out. |
| 20:33.21 | alestane | I like the line about microwavable pizzas though. |
| 20:34.54 | snegoviK | they suck |
| 20:34.57 | snegoviK | take away ftw |
| 20:35.17 | |Jelly| | IMO, everyone that posts some shit like that should have their healer deleted. |
| 20:35.35 | snegoviK | you need a macro which will heal while you are at dominos |
| 20:35.55 | alestane | Or randomly respecced feral/shadow/enhancement/retribution without telling them. |
| 20:36.17 | |Jelly| | Screw that. Raid full disc! |
| 20:36.20 | snegoviK | and will respond automatically in TS or since we got in-built VoIP now, into WoW, responding to each RLs "WTF?" with "Was OOM" |
| 20:37.27 | amro | "a palliden is my main" |
| 20:37.33 | |Jelly| | TS. I lol'd. |
| 20:38.37 | snegoviK | _/voip "i speak with computer-like voice" |
| 20:38.50 | snegoviK | i bet slouken will do it, if you request it :P |
| 20:39.19 | alestane | My priest is shaping up to be mostly Discipline. 35/15/11 |
| 20:39.30 | Industrial | damnit :| wowui now has that ANOYING javascript image popup |
| 20:39.37 | snegoviK | alestane: show armory |
| 20:39.38 | Industrial | that goes totally against HTTP, and tabbed browsing |
| 20:40.17 | alestane | She's only 47 atm, I'm not there yet...but you can see the build plan here: http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/info/classes/priest/talents.html?503230013050012050500204051030000000000000053020010000000000000 |
| 20:40.54 | snegoviK | what is that spec for? |
| 20:40.56 | |Jelly| | Trispec priest. *sigh* |
| 20:41.31 | Industrial | eenteresting |
| 20:41.43 | |Jelly| | You can all but get rid of shadow affinity. You'll probably never have aggro problems. lol |
| 20:41.45 | art3mis | hehe trispec is fun |
| 20:41.57 | alestane | Right now she runs mostly with two other toons. The DPS is insane and I don't need to heal often...support is mostly provided through shields and extra damage. |
| 20:42.19 | alestane | I might end up dropping shadow since it was there for soloing support, and she just isn't. |
| 20:42.28 | Cidan | I heard in 2.4 they're getting rid of all healing spells. |
| 20:42.36 | Cidan | Bandages/potions only |
| 20:42.36 | |Jelly| | Woot. |
| 20:42.43 | |Jelly| | Means I can go shadow like I want to. |
| 20:42.52 | |Jelly| | go [back] shadow |
| 20:43.22 | art3mis | i'd go 2pain 3 focus though and ditch affin |
| 20:43.33 | Cidan | anyone want to try Voice chat on PTR with me? |
| 20:43.47 | snegoviK | i can |
| 20:43.49 | snegoviK | u us? |
| 20:44.00 | Cidan | yeah, gimmi a sec |
| 20:44.02 | Cidan | new patches |
| 20:44.06 | snegoviK | i m eu |
| 20:44.06 | art3mis | cidan: im confused, what are they "healing spells" you talk about? |
| 20:44.07 | snegoviK | :( |
| 20:44.08 | alestane | art3mis: I used to out-aggro the other two ALL THE TIME, that's why affinity. |
| 20:44.09 | Cidan | lol, first PTR patch == sound works |
| 20:44.19 | Cidan | second ptr patch == sound doesn't work |
| 20:44.26 | snegoviK | alestane, try getting to atleast 60. you will change your mind |
| 20:44.30 | art3mis | thast what fade is for ;P |
| 20:44.44 | art3mis | you fade long enough for someone to kill it ;P |
| 20:44.44 | snegoviK | in practice going for 3 talent trees will make you gimped in all ways |
| 20:44.57 | Cidan | third ptr patch == sound works |
| 20:45.08 | art3mis | snegoviK: not really at 70 |
| 20:45.18 | alestane | Didn't always work, that was why I finally specced the affinity in. Like I said I may end up dropping shadow. |
| 20:45.19 | art3mis | at 60 it wass horribl though |
| 20:45.32 | Cidan | fourth works |
| 20:45.49 | art3mis | when i first for wow i ran around as a priest and misread what fade does |
| 20:45.56 | art3mis | thought it worked like mindsooth |
| 20:45.58 | AnduinLothar | what happened to the curse ss's. they all dissapeared |
| 20:46.04 | alestane | snegoviK: I have NEVER seen a 41 point talent that I get excited about, with the possible exception of Totem of Wrath. |
| 20:46.07 | art3mis | son or argul cleared me up on that point a few times |
| 20:46.31 | |Jelly| | [G] <Dreko>: anyone want do some real pvp Im going to IF pst <-- lol |
| 20:46.31 | alestane | All sons of Arugal must die. |
| 20:46.45 | snegoviK | circle of healing? |
| 20:46.54 | snegoviK | gives you one more INSTANT cast |
| 20:46.55 | |Jelly| | LOL25 |
| 20:47.18 | snegoviK | that gives you pom, renew, pws, coh = 4 instant cast spells |
| 20:47.51 | snegoviK | vampiric touch? |
| 20:47.58 | |Jelly| | vt = cast time |
| 20:48.00 | alestane | I don't get "pom"? |
| 20:48.01 | snegoviK | primary tool in pve |
| 20:48.02 | |Jelly| | ve = instant |
| 20:48.13 | art3mis | prayer of mending |
| 20:48.13 | snegoviK | i m not saying vt in instant |
| 20:48.21 | alestane | Ah, I'm not up to that yet. |
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| 20:48.25 | art3mis | the most awesome game ever! |
| 20:48.27 | snegoviK | i m moving on to shadow spec now : ) |
| 20:48.41 | snegoviK | vampiric touch is a must have for shadow priests |
| 20:48.43 | art3mis | cast it on the tank and then play the game of who can get and keep it ;P |
| 20:48.46 | art3mis | yup |
| 20:48.59 | art3mis | if yer going shadow you need vt to be invited anywhere as shadow |
| 20:49.01 | snegoviK | i was testing out pain suppression on ptr |
| 20:49.06 | snegoviK | still unconvincing tbh |
| 20:49.13 | art3mis | yeah the duration is far to short |
| 20:49.26 | snegoviK | its not really that |
| 20:49.31 | snegoviK | its the lack of blessed resilience |
| 20:49.37 | art3mis | and its about as useful as pw:s ;P |
| 20:49.37 | snegoviK | and complete lack of healing power |
| 20:49.53 | snegoviK | 28/33/0 is still the best for pvp |
| 20:49.53 | art3mis | cept you still cant cast |
| 20:50.22 | art3mis | when i first did beta i did holy at the time and had that 5% dam bonus |
| 20:50.35 | art3mis | when i respeced to shadow it took me a while to realize why my dam was much lower |
| 20:50.43 | snegoviK | dam ? |
| 20:50.53 | |Jelly| | You have shit shadow gear or something? |
| 20:51.13 | art3mis | spelldam |
| 20:51.37 | art3mis | no the disc ability gives you a bonus +5% of your spelldam |
| 20:51.54 | snegoviK | crap talent |
| 20:52.00 | snegoviK | why would you ever take that |
| 20:52.02 | art3mis | so at 500 spelldam at the time going shadow cost me +25 |
| 20:52.05 | snegoviK | smite spammer? : ) |
| 20:52.21 | snegoviK | holy dmg spec is the worst ever spec |
| 20:52.27 | snegoviK | just perverted spec really |
| 20:52.30 | art3mis | nah its fun |
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| 20:52.39 | snegoviK | why would you play like that as a priesT? |
| 20:52.40 | art3mis | you've got so little downtime when solo it isnt funny |
| 20:52.43 | snegoviK | reroll mage |
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| 20:52.45 | art3mis | i was bored ;P |
| 20:52.50 | |Jelly| | Smite cannon is fun considering you can heal while doing it but meh. |
| 20:52.54 | |Jelly| | It's like dest locks... |
| 20:52.57 | |Jelly| | roll a mage |
| 20:52.59 | art3mis | you lose a bit in kill speed |
| 20:53.08 | art3mis | but you can go forever |
| 20:53.14 | art3mis | even on multi pulls |
| 20:53.27 | snegoviK | not really, when i hear destro lock i dont mind |
| 20:53.38 | snegoviK | when i hear holy dps, i get worried |
| 20:53.44 | alestane | Gonna say, mages don't have Life Tap. |
| 20:53.47 | art3mis | its quite effective |
| 20:53.49 | art3mis | ;) |
| 20:54.02 | art3mis | not as singularly awesome as shadow though ;P |
| 20:54.08 | art3mis | but its fun to muck around with |
| 20:54.21 | art3mis | i tried 41point disc too |
| 20:54.30 | art3mis | i think i stayed that for about 30 mins |
| 20:54.35 | snegoviK | prolly cus i dont like universal specs |
| 20:54.41 | snegoviK | i either do dmg or i heal |
| 20:54.53 | alestane | Also mages don't synergize with shadow priests the way 'locks do. |
| 20:54.59 | [dRaCo] | full disc is great for arena. |
| 20:55.01 | art3mis | hehe CoS |
| 20:55.07 | snegoviK | no its not |
| 20:55.08 | art3mis | mmmm CoS |
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| 20:55.13 | snegoviK | full disc is shite for arena |
| 20:55.32 | alestane | And improved shadow bolt. |
| 20:55.35 | [dRaCo] | if you say so. |
| 20:55.42 | snegoviK | you only go 41+ talent disc if you have low resilience |
| 20:55.54 | snegoviK | so that you dont get 2 shotted with mortal strike+whirlwind :) |
| 20:56.21 | snegoviK | in full disc you dont have the best pvp talent = blessed resilience |
| 20:56.29 | snegoviK | it owns all survivability talents |
| 20:56.30 | [dRaCo] | if anything below 200 is low, then yes. |
| 20:56.33 | art3mis | You are at -2 Hitpoints, you will die soon if not aided. |
| 20:57.11 | snegoviK | dRaCo: blessed resilience is still better than anything in discipline |
| 20:58.21 | [dRaCo] | well, yeah. blessed resilience rocks |
| 20:58.33 | [dRaCo] | but pain suppression helps, too. |
| 20:58.41 | snegoviK | you cant have both :( |
| 20:59.02 | snegoviK | pain suppression isnt as viable. first of, you have to switch it on at the right time |
| 20:59.12 | snegoviK | if you mess up, you waste it |
| 20:59.21 | [dRaCo] | sure, takes a lil skill to use it |
| 20:59.22 | alestane | Considering how front-loaded PvP damage tends to be, I can see a lot of potential in Pain Sup. |
| 20:59.36 | [dRaCo] | but if you know how to use it, it's great. |
| 21:00.32 | snegoviK | i can argue with that. just in practice it didnt help much |
| 21:01.08 | snegoviK | another problem with pain sup |
| 21:01.18 | snegoviK | you cant take spirit of redemption |
| 21:01.26 | snegoviK | nor you get the healing prayers |
| 21:02.21 | [dRaCo] | not sure how much mana reg you need in the arena... my priest does pretty well as full disc |
| 21:03.07 | snegoviK | it depends what kind of battle it is |
| 21:03.22 | snegoviK | what rating to you have? |
| 21:03.58 | [dRaCo] | 1700 currently |
| 21:04.07 | snegoviK | 2v2? |
| 21:04.12 | [dRaCo] | 3vs3 |
| 21:04.16 | snegoviK | thats alright |
| 21:04.57 | snegoviK | mana regen isnt critical, you wont be putting mp5 gems into pvp gear... but every little mana conserve helps |
| 21:05.06 | snegoviK | especially if its a heavy dispel battle |
| 21:05.13 | snegoviK | + if they are burning your mana |
| 21:05.28 | [dRaCo] | yeah, good point |
| 21:05.45 | snegoviK | thats why absolution is a good talent to take |
| 21:06.02 | [dRaCo] | definitly |
| 21:06.13 | alestane | Mental agility is what I just started getting and I'm very enthusiastic about it. |
| 21:06.25 | snegoviK | mental agility is good |
| 21:06.41 | *** join/#wowi-lounge ven (n=ven@i59F55644.versanet.de) |
| 21:06.48 | snegoviK | must have in most cases |
| 21:07.03 | snegoviK | renew/pws/pom <- they all get affected by it |
| 21:07.17 | snegoviK | and circle of healing :) |
| 21:07.23 | snegoviK | i love circle of healing |
| 21:07.52 | snegoviK | my favourite spec in pve is 20/41 |
| 21:08.13 | snegoviK | unfortunately if you are planning to go high end pve, a lot of rls will tell you to respec |
| 21:08.33 | snegoviK | most raids nowadays have 1-2 priests and for most its compulsory to have Divine Spirit |
| 21:09.09 | snegoviK | so you can theoretically say, priests get a place in raid groups because of buffs |
| 21:09.44 | snegoviK | if priests didnt get have buffs, they could ve easily been replaced with any other healing class |
| 21:09.57 | snegoviK | unfortunately :) |
| 21:10.23 | snegoviK | shaman raid group heal is just ez mode |
| 21:10.31 | snegoviK | spam one button, watch whole raid get healed |
| 21:10.39 | Adys | is there a way to retrieve a spellcraft tooltip without knowing its name? |
| 21:10.51 | *** join/#wowi-lounge blq (i=Bl@dslb-088-067-026-066.pools.arcor-ip.net) |
| 21:11.11 | Adys | ie a sniff-like addon /spell 27954 that shows [Enchanting: Enchant Boots - Surefooted] |
| 21:12.08 | alestane | Heading home. |
| 21:12.21 | bleeter | wereHamster: poing |
| 21:12.27 | *** join/#wowi-lounge JoshBorke (n=Josh@r35h14.res.gatech.edu) |
| 21:13.30 | Kaydeethree | hm |
| 21:14.30 | Kaydeethree | and what the hell kind of google ad is "try bikini waxing monkeys. harry applicants welcome. show us what you got."? |
| 21:14.35 | JoshBorke | hola all |
| 21:14.54 | bleeter | harry applicants? |
| 21:15.00 | Kaydeethree | hairy* |
| 21:15.13 | Cidan | Harry? Harry Potter?! |
| 21:15.30 | JoshBorke | the harry potter?! |
| 21:15.32 | bleeter | harry and the hendersons! |
| 21:16.46 | snegoviK | hi Josh |
| 21:16.53 | snegoviK | tbh i cant code tonight |
| 21:16.58 | snegoviK | gn all |
| 21:17.18 | snegoviK | lua> os.date() |
| 21:17.18 | JoshBorke | nn |
| 21:17.21 | cladbot | snegoviK: Thu Aug 30 17:13:26 2007, |
| 21:17.26 | snegoviK | zomg 17am |
| 21:17.29 | snegoviK | lucky bastards :P |
| 21:17.33 | snegoviK | pm* |
| 21:17.37 | Cidan | wai? |
| 21:17.51 | bleeter | cladbot is stuck in a timewarp |
| 21:17.58 | bleeter | Fri Aug 31 07:17:58 EST 2007 |
| 21:18.29 | snegoviK | i dont know... had a crazy idea of extending the day duration when needed :P |
| 21:19.17 | snegoviK | btw have you heard about this thing that the day isnt always 24 hrs because Earths orbit is of irregular shape ? :) |
| 21:19.19 | Shirik|AFK | Thursday August 30 2007 -- 21:19:09 +00:00 |
| 21:19.27 | snegoviK | such a simple fact yet i was amazed when i read about it |
| 21:19.34 | Cidan | lua> os.date = function() print("lolwut?"); end |
| 21:19.34 | cladbot | Cidan: |
| 21:19.43 | Cidan | lua> os.date() |
| 21:19.44 | cladbot | Cidan: Thu Aug 30 17:15:49 2007, |
| 21:19.48 | Shirik | Cidan: You're sandboxed. Nice try |
| 21:19.48 | Cidan | D: |
| 21:19.53 | Cidan | it worked earlier |
| 21:19.59 | Shirik | unlikely |
| 21:20.00 | Cidan | clad just fixed it |
| 21:20.02 | Cidan | no likely |
| 21:20.05 | Cidan | scroll up |
| 21:20.12 | Cidan | someone overwrote math.floor, etc |
| 21:20.18 | Shirik | according to conspiracy, it did not: |
| 21:20.20 | Shirik | 14(1511:5711:4414) 14(1115Cidan14) lua> math.floor = nil |
| 21:20.21 | Shirik | 14(1511:5711:4414) 14(1115cladbot14) Cidan: |
| 21:20.21 | Shirik | 14(1511:5711:5514) 14(1115Cidan14) lua> math.floor(5.5); |
| 21:20.21 | Shirik | 14(1511:5711:5514) 14(1115cladbot14) Cidan: 5, |
| 21:20.29 | Cidan | that was after clad fixed it |
| 21:20.34 | Shirik | sure |
| 21:20.56 | clad|book | lol |
| 21:21.03 | Cidan | :( |
| 21:21.14 | clad|book | my recursive environment copy was bad |
| 21:21.40 | Shirik | any idea what "MSVCR90D.dll" is? |
| 21:21.49 | JoshBorke | porn |
| 21:21.55 | JoshBorke | lots and lots of porn |
| 21:22.41 | Cide | microsoft visual camrecorder |
| 21:22.46 | Shirik | wtf? |
| 21:22.55 | Cide | I just made something up, don't be so gullible |
| 21:22.58 | Shirik | =( |
| 21:23.11 | Shirik | Okay, so here's what happened |
| 21:23.22 | Shirik | I debugged my program in visual studio, it worked fine. I copied it to program files folder, it worked fine. |
| 21:23.25 | bleeter | microsoft visual C release 9.D? |
| 21:23.37 | Shirik | I ran mt to attach an XML file to it which tells Vista that it needs to run as an administrator |
| 21:23.40 | Shirik | and all of a sudden I get that error :( |
| 21:23.45 | Shirik | I didn't rebuild the executable, nothing |
| 21:23.45 | Cidan | it is a visual c++ lib |
| 21:24.45 | zenzelezz | D = debug DLL |
| 21:25.19 | zenzelezz | most clients only have normal DLL |
| 21:26.19 | Shirik | hm |
| 21:26.27 | Shirik | but I want to run in debug build :( |
| 21:26.34 | zenzelezz | then give them that DLL |
| 21:26.37 | Shirik | it's wierd that it worked until I attached that manifest |
| 21:26.41 | Shirik | I don't have it >< |
| 21:26.49 | Shirik | apparently |
| 21:26.52 | zenzelezz | if you can run it on your computer without getting that message, you do |
| 21:27.10 | Shirik | in theory it never did |
| 21:27.15 | zenzelezz | could be a "hidden" file or whatever |
| 21:27.35 | Shirik | in theory I never ran it successfully with that lib, afaict |
| 21:27.35 | Cidan | man, the epic druid flight form is so nice |
| 21:27.40 | Shirik | but bleh |
| 21:29.36 | snegoviK | seems like bleeter is satisfied with wine :) |
| 21:30.29 | Kaydeethree | bleeter, is that the current git tree sans your 1-liner? |
| 21:32.49 | bleeter | Kaydeethree: yeah, the one liner is now invalid (as Wine should be bug for bug/undocumented feature for undocumented feature) the same as Windows |
| 21:33.02 | Cidan | boo |
| 21:33.05 | Cidan | server just crashed |
| 21:33.26 | Tuller | http://i9.tinypic.com/53yu5ix.png |
| 21:33.32 | bleeter | Kaydeethree: so, next stop will be the hang on exit thingy... when I get the energy up ;) |
| 21:33.36 | Tuller | someone find me a better round texture, stat! |
| 21:33.49 | JoshBorke | um |
| 21:33.55 | JoshBorke | gfy |
| 21:34.08 | Shirik | http://images.google.com/?q=round+texture |
| 21:34.16 | JoshBorke | ~gfy |
| 21:34.17 | purl | gfy is probably http://www.amishrakefight.org/gfy/ |
| 21:34.17 | Industrial | Tuller: WHOA WHOA WHOA WHOA WHOA WHOA.. .. WHOA.... WHOA. (just like peter griffin.) |
| 21:34.24 | Tuller | "The requested URL /?q=round+texture was not found on this server." |
| 21:34.30 | Shirik | =( |
| 21:34.34 | Shirik | I tried to make the URL |
| 21:34.37 | Shirik | without googling myself |
| 21:34.43 | Industrial | Tuller: nice :-) |
| 21:34.43 | Cidan | is it sad that I want to make a druid just for flight form? |
| 21:34.49 | JoshBorke | cidan: yes |
| 21:35.14 | Shirik | Cidan: Is it sad that you'll never get anything to 70? |
| 21:35.17 | Industrial | Tuller: can I bitch a bit? :D |
| 21:35.21 | Cidan | Yes, :( |
| 21:36.12 | Cidan | one day, I will |
| 21:36.15 | Cidan | just, not any time soon |
| 21:36.49 | cog|work | heh... guild name < IDK MY BFF JILL > |
| 21:37.01 | Cidan | lol |
| 21:37.06 | Shirik | ok I got it |
| 21:37.12 | snegoviK | no its not said |
| 21:37.14 | snegoviK | sad* |
| 21:37.18 | snegoviK | flight form is uber |
| 21:37.20 | Industrial | Tuller: ? |
| 21:37.22 | Shirik | apparently I don't have the DLLs required to link a Vista UAC manifest to a debug version of an app |
| 21:37.23 | snegoviK | you can get out of any fight |
| 21:37.23 | Shirik | wierd |
| 21:37.24 | snegoviK | any times |
| 21:37.27 | snegoviK | and also! |
| 21:37.30 | Shirik | wonder why VS didn't come with it |
| 21:37.31 | Cidan | flight form + nagrad == wow |
| 21:37.34 | Shirik | or where they're stored |
| 21:37.50 | snegoviK | you can shapeshift into bear and charge from the air:P |
| 21:37.50 | Tuller | Industrial: sure |
| 21:37.57 | snegoviK | if you are fast enough :) |
| 21:38.18 | snegoviK | druids are imba |
| 21:38.22 | snegoviK | fix them plx |
| 21:38.36 | Industrial | Tuller: the button on top are scaled up too big - can see the edges :< |
| 21:38.51 | Industrial | its the little round checkbox texture right? |
| 21:39.08 | Tuller | yeah |
| 21:39.10 | snegoviK | but druid class looks boring to me :/ |
| 21:39.15 | Tuller | that's why I need a new one :) |
| 21:39.16 | snegoviK | there was an old saying |
| 21:39.25 | snegoviK | wait lemme find it |
| 21:39.26 | Tuller | i'll probably get it from cycircled or somewhere |
| 21:39.47 | Cidan | question |
| 21:39.48 | Industrial | you can ask someone to work with you? make it all special your style ;o |
| 21:39.50 | snegoviK | there we go |
| 21:39.51 | snegoviK | Druid is TRIAL VERSION of wow character. Just play him try what you want to do in future and reroll |
| 21:39.53 | Cidan | if you're on a flying mount and a guard hits you |
| 21:40.01 | Cidan | you drop? |
| 21:40.08 | snegoviK | if you get dazed |
| 21:40.12 | snegoviK | if no -> no |
| 21:40.16 | Kaydeethree | nah. the debuff dismounts you |
| 21:40.28 | Tuller | Industrial: that requires work :P |
| 21:40.30 | snegoviK | you get dazed pretty regularly |
| 21:40.41 | snegoviK | especially by guards |
| 21:40.42 | snegoviK | :) |
| 21:41.02 | Cide | flying guards have an ability that dazes you, so yeah |
| 21:41.06 | bleeter | all the whining about imba classes, it's beats me why more people don't complain about the obvious imba that sticks out a mile in WoW |
| 21:41.14 | Industrial | Tuller: true |
| 21:41.26 | bleeter | (not that I mean to say you guys are whining... this is merely a generalised observation) |
| 21:41.28 | *** join/#wowi-lounge Chaotic_D (n=nothanks@ottawa-hs-206-191-39-189.d-ip.magma.ca) |
| 21:41.29 | JoshBorke | nerf warriors |
| 21:41.35 | JoshBorke | wait |
| 21:41.39 | snegoviK | remove mortal strike |
| 21:41.40 | JoshBorke | no, nerf um, disc priests |
| 21:41.47 | bleeter | NPCs are OP/imba. Nerf every one of them. |
| 21:41.54 | snegoviK | disc priests?! |
| 21:41.56 | snegoviK | WTF? |
| 21:42.03 | snegoviK | why would you ever nerf them ? |
| 21:42.10 | JoshBorke | seriously, pain suppression is seriously OPd |
| 21:42.11 | bleeter | s/NPCs/NPCs\/Mobs/ |
| 21:42.14 | snegoviK | omg |
| 21:42.20 | snegoviK | pain suppresion is not OPd |
| 21:42.27 | JoshBorke | it's totally OP'd! |
| 21:42.32 | JoshBorke | and imp DS?! ZOMG |
| 21:42.33 | snegoviK | its a gay talent 0.000001% priests take |
| 21:42.41 | JoshBorke | what about reflective DS, that stuff kills! |
| 21:42.50 | snegoviK | lol ? 25 damage a hit ? : ) |
| 21:42.56 | snegoviK | how much hp you got? : ) |
| 21:43.00 | JoshBorke | imagine the poor animals! |
| 21:43.14 | bleeter | squirrels are imba |
| 21:43.18 | bleeter | they don't bite back |
| 21:43.25 | [dRaCo] | nerf squirrels! |
| 21:43.26 | snegoviK | on ptr i was thoroughly testing pain supression |
| 21:43.27 | JoshBorke | i seriously have frogs attack me back |
| 21:43.31 | bleeter | buff squirrels! |
| 21:43.36 | snegoviK | with teh omg so overpowered new anti-dispel thing |
| 21:43.51 | snegoviK | _/duel zomgubersham |
| 21:44.06 | snegoviK | _/w zomgubersham i m testing pain suppresion plx purge me like mad |
| 21:44.12 | snegoviK | 3, 2, 1 |
| 21:44.35 | snegoviK | [You] Purge dispel [Pain Suppression] |
| 21:44.39 | snegoviK | [Me] -.- |
| 21:44.40 | JoshBorke | lol |
| 21:45.03 | snegoviK | it was only once this happened :) |
| 21:45.05 | snegoviK | but it did |
| 21:45.09 | snegoviK | wonders of probability |
| 21:46.00 | Tuller | serenity should work well enough, though its a little flat looking |
| 21:46.36 | bleeter | bollocks |
| 21:46.45 | bleeter | serenity's a top film and looks wonderful, too :P |
| 21:47.06 | snegoviK | i say nerf rogue |
| 21:47.07 | snegoviK | s |
| 21:47.14 | snegoviK | rogues really deserve a nerf |
| 21:47.15 | bleeter | I say nerf chanops |
| 21:47.24 | snegoviK | rofl |
| 21:47.37 | snegoviK | please nerf auction prices for jewelcrafting recipes |
| 21:47.38 | deltron | nerf * (but shaman, we're quite nerfed already) |
| 21:48.31 | snegoviK | hey have you ever seen rogue talent cheat death in action? |
| 21:48.35 | Industrial | I currently have a ping of 11 |
| 21:48.38 | Industrial | to my wow server |
| 21:48.42 | Industrial | so it says |
| 21:48.47 | Kaydeethree | geez |
| 21:48.54 | Industrial | that means its hosted in amsterdam =D lucky lucky! |
| 21:49.16 | snegoviK | i seriously doubt that :) |
| 21:49.18 | Cidan | how far into the twisting nether can you fly? |
| 21:49.23 | snegoviK | unless Telia decided to expand :) |
| 21:49.32 | |Jelly| | http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y236/Zeduk/wtf.jpg <-- anyone explain that? |
| 21:49.36 | Industrial | snegoviK: its 30 usually :P |
| 21:49.46 | snegoviK | pretty far. |
| 21:50.02 | Industrial | thats like me->isp->1 hop |
| 21:50.04 | snegoviK | it also depends on the location |
| 21:50.14 | snegoviK | most of the time its pretty far that you will want to come back : ) |
| 21:50.29 | snegoviK | in some places you hit the "wall" pretty quickly tho |
| 21:50.34 | [dRaCo] | jelly: what exactly is the problem? |
| 21:50.47 | cog|work | killing blows are easy to get ... just let everyone else take down their health and do an instant attack... |
| 21:50.51 | |Jelly| | Alliance talking to Horde |
| 21:50.54 | |Jelly| | in whisper |
| 21:50.56 | snegoviK | if you die, the corpse gets teleported to the location on the land closest to the place you fell |
| 21:51.04 | Cide | |Jelly|: pretty sure the player name is with an í |
| 21:51.07 | cog|work | oh... huh... |
| 21:51.10 | Cide | Tígurius |
| 21:51.12 | Cidan | and if you fly straight down? |
| 21:51.13 | Cide | vs Tigurius |
| 21:51.31 | |Jelly| | (for the record, I didn't really look at the screenshot closely...someone asked me if I knew what happened) |
| 21:51.47 | [dRaCo] | yeah, with ì and í |
| 21:51.48 | Cide | two different characters |
| 21:51.51 | snegoviK | but if you die and you fall somewhere where its still a part of continent but unreachable without flying mount, you are screwed : ) |
| 21:52.13 | snegoviK | you get your corpse teleported only if you fall off the level |
| 21:52.25 | amro | snegoviK: spirit healer |
| 21:52.34 | snegoviK | yea but thats what i mean screwed |
| 21:52.44 | snegoviK | as in 15g repair bill : ) |
| 21:52.53 | bleeter | |Jelly|: further proof that Blizz should run an hourly cronjob with an non-ASCII regexp checker to force toon renames on US/Oceanic realms, imo ;) |
| 21:53.16 | zenzelezz | or just reject them in the first place |
| 21:53.38 | bleeter | closing the door after horse has bolted ;) |
| 21:53.51 | snegoviK | if you fly straight down you die eventually, like i wrote |
| 21:53.52 | amro | someone asked me where I got my CE pet and I told them to beg an NPC. and that they did: http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b377/Amro_/beggar1.jpg |
| 21:54.12 | Cidan | I do hope in the future Blizzard makes Azeroth flight-friendly |
| 21:54.19 | |Jelly| | bleeter: What do you mean? That just translates straight to "Don't group with me" |
| 21:54.19 | bleeter | amro: hehe |
| 21:54.23 | snegoviK | they wont Cidan |
| 21:54.25 | snegoviK | too much work |
| 21:54.28 | Cidan | shh |
| 21:54.29 | Cidan | :P |
| 21:55.23 | snegoviK | you know there will be new Naxxramas in WotLK? |
| 21:55.36 | bleeter | |Jelly|: technically, on US realms, non-ASCII names are against the ToS/EULA, 'coz part of one of those says you agree to abide by player behaviour rules, which has in it that you can't have non-ASCII in your name. This is why if someone complains about a name with non-ASCII, GMs tend to set the rename flag on the toon. |
| 21:55.39 | snegoviK | and that one will drop the Ashbringer that could be made into a legendary weapon ? |
| 21:55.53 | snegoviK | the old Naxx and old Ashbringer will still be in-game :P |
| 21:56.01 | |Jelly| | I know. I've reported a couple people for it. |
| 21:56.01 | snegoviK | and will be forgotten like everything |
| 21:56.19 | snegoviK | i hate the way they just cut the old content off |
| 21:56.24 | Kaydeethree | meh... I'm just annoyed that there hasn't been any progress at all on the ashbringer questline |
| 21:56.32 | snegoviK | "didnt happen. different game. play this now" |
| 21:56.44 | Cidan | they really should upgrade MC, BWL, et al |
| 21:56.51 | snegoviK | they wont :( |
| 21:57.02 | bleeter | |Jelly|: tbh, though, I've seen a horde and alliance in same battleground with same name, tho from different servers... even with the * it kinda threw me for a second... 'wth? skinny is a lock not a rogue!' |
| 21:57.03 | Cidan | It's silly that they won't |
| 21:57.03 | zenzelezz | don't need MC, but BWL and Naxx at least |
| 21:57.06 | zenzelezz | perhaps AQ40 |
| 21:57.10 | amro | when I first heard about heroics, I thought they would include the older instances |
| 21:57.16 | Cide | consumed content |
| 21:57.35 | Cidan | at least redo them so they are 5-10 man |
| 21:57.43 | Kaydeethree | heh... two "MC Raiders" threads on general right now |
| 21:57.43 | Cidan | so they are something to do at level 60 |
| 21:57.50 | Cide | that would be impossible in many cases :P |
| 21:58.03 | Cidan | naw, I mean they'd have to rework a lot, but not impossible |
| 21:58.07 | Cide | yeah |
| 21:58.09 | snegoviK | it would make too many things too complicated |
| 21:58.14 | snegoviK | like for eg the gear |
| 21:58.22 | Cide | but you might as well create something entirely new at that point |
| 21:58.27 | snegoviK | make naxx available at 60 and you get lvl 70 equivalent epic |
| 21:58.35 | snegoviK | so that means they have to change item lvls |
| 21:58.40 | snegoviK | rework loot |
| 21:58.41 | Cidan | you may as well anyways -- no one will ever do them |
| 21:58.43 | Lunessa | Heroic Dead Mines. |
| 21:58.44 | bleeter | someone in guild mentioned that Old Stratholme will be in WotLK's Caverns of Time, is that correct? |
| 21:58.52 | Kaydeethree | meh, we all want heroic deadmines |
| 21:58.54 | Kaydeethree | bleeter, yes |
| 21:59.01 | bleeter | you get to burn the place down! woot! |
| 21:59.03 | amro | you get to do the culling? |
| 21:59.11 | Kaydeethree | yup. we're tagging along with arthas |
| 21:59.18 | Cidan | lol |
| 21:59.18 | Cidan | neat |
| 21:59.20 | Lunessa | I want VanCleef to drop some 'ph4t purpz' |
| 21:59.24 | bleeter | schweet |
| 21:59.29 | Kemayo | It would be nice if VC was a plausible threat and the entirity of Deadmines couldn't be solo'd by a single Stormwind guard. :D |
| 21:59.40 | cog|work | My wife tells people that Murky is a rare drop from Cookie in the Deadmines... |
| 21:59.52 | bleeter | yeah, everyone wants heroic DM... from a lore perspective, it don't make sense that an NPC of that level is holding SW 'hostage' ;) |
| 21:59.54 | Cidan | that's mean |
| 21:59.54 | Cidan | :P |
| 22:00.02 | Kemayo | cog|work: Apparently your wife is a terrible person. |
| 22:00.07 | snegoviK | i.e. they added shitloads of filler content for bored 60s, so that they stay ingame til TBC and now they realise it doesnt fit anywhere |
| 22:00.12 | Lunessa | cog|work: No, she's awesome. |
| 22:00.15 | Cidan | Though I have been considering getting that trading card game just for the chance of epic pets |
| 22:00.17 | amro | Kemayo: what are you talking about that's awesome\ |
| 22:00.20 | Lunessa | Seriously.... That RULES! |
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| 22:00.26 | amro | Lunessa: gah you're faster than me |
| 22:00.39 | snegoviK | cus if you make it stay like its now, noone wants to do it, if you change it you have to rework them from scratch |
| 22:00.42 | cog|work | Kemayo: have you ever been walking through ironforge and have people harrass you to give them your code? :P |
| 22:00.59 | Kemayo | cog|work: Okay, I admit it, I don't have any of the limited pets. |
| 22:01.12 | Lunessa | I regret that I never got to go to either event and get the codes for the suit and the pet. |
| 22:01.27 | amro | I've got my CE pets to keep me happy :D |
| 22:01.32 | snegoviK | i ve seen a guy in murloc suite today : ) |
| 22:01.34 | snegoviK | looks hilarious |
| 22:01.51 | snegoviK | especially with the buff which is called GRrlrarlggggagwgggggg |
| 22:01.53 | bleeter | I did a guild run last week, other four members had suit AND murky... I cried lots |
| 22:02.22 | snegoviK | have you seen the umbrella? |
| 22:02.25 | bleeter | WTB: OceanicBlizzcon |
| 22:02.28 | snegoviK | we had a ab premade |
| 22:02.33 | bleeter | snegoviK: yeah, and the food tastes terrible |
| 22:02.37 | Industrial | WTB: EuropeanBlozzcon |
| 22:02.42 | Industrial | blizzcon too |
| 22:02.46 | bleeter | I wouldn't mind the fishing chair |
| 22:02.46 | snegoviK | rogue came round to stables opened it up and made a camp fire:P |
| 22:03.07 | bleeter | snegoviK: haha |
| 22:03.18 | amro | best use of campfires is camping people :) |
| 22:03.32 | amro | I keep flint and wood just for that |
| 22:05.23 | snegoviK | hey have you heard about this theory that most gold sellers buy gold from gms? |
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| 22:05.54 | snegoviK | or they bribe them so that they dont get cought |
| 22:06.01 | snegoviK | is that even possible? |
| 22:06.05 | snegoviK | i dont believe that |
| 22:06.17 | [dRaCo] | dont think so |
| 22:06.54 | bleeter | I guess it's possible that maybe one or two GMs got bribed/gave gold to the sellers, but I'd say it'd be the rare case and not the norm. |
| 22:06.55 | snegoviK | russian servers are really bad that way tho |
| 22:06.58 | amro | I'm pretty sure all GM transactions are logged and reviewed, there can't be many instances where GMs have to spawn gold |
| 22:07.39 | snegoviK | in trade channels we get WTS WTB game cards/characters/gold/arena teams you name it |
| 22:07.51 | snegoviK | noone even reports anymore |
| 22:08.05 | snegoviK | its just a norm like WTB Earthstorm Diamond |
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| 22:08.08 | snegoviK | or anything else |
| 22:08.39 | snegoviK | this thing about selling arena teams is just weird |
| 22:08.49 | snegoviK | you make a team, get it to 2k rating and sell it for real money |
| 22:08.53 | amro | who runs the realms? |
| 22:09.01 | snegoviK | blizzard:P |
| 22:09.07 | bleeter | amro: indeed, if it's ever happened I'd say it happened ages ago ;) |
| 22:09.12 | snegoviK | officially they are english-speaking realms |
| 22:09.32 | snegoviK | its just russians grouped up and started reproducing there |
| 22:09.53 | bleeter | kinky |
| 22:09.57 | snegoviK | the cell division was to quick, so all english dudes ran off:) |
| 22:10.01 | snegoviK | too* |
| 22:10.16 | snegoviK | its either assimilate, or get assimilated |
| 22:10.21 | snegoviK | soviet style |
| 22:10.30 | snegoviK | in soviet russian games play you:P |
| 22:10.34 | snegoviK | russia* |
| 22:10.55 | amro | ohh just found http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b377/Amro_/down.jpg |
| 22:10.59 | amro | good ol' times |
| 22:11.06 | Lunessa | In Soviet WoW gold buys YOU! |
| 22:11.29 | snegoviK | lol |
| 22:11.43 | snegoviK | in soviet russia Lua codes you : ) |
| 22:12.06 | snegoviK | is that eu client, amro ? |
| 22:12.13 | snegoviK | magtheridon. Nihilum realm : ) |
| 22:12.15 | bleeter | in soviet russia, u r aced |
| 22:12.38 | amro | I'd move to russia, automatic garbage collection |
| 22:12.57 | amro | and that\s magtherion US. check the date, EU WoW wasn't released yet :P |
| 22:12.58 | snegoviK | garbage collects you? |
| 22:13.44 | snegoviK | i was very frustrated Europe got their WoW last :P |
| 22:13.52 | snegoviK | and i wanted to write to slouken so much... |
| 22:13.56 | snegoviK | DISCRIMINATION! |
| 22:17.13 | snegoviK | anyways guys. gn all. |
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| 22:20.22 | amro_ | ~seen warla |
| 22:20.48 | purl | warla <i=Darky28@153.220.77.83.cust.bluewin.ch> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowroster, 236d 2h 32m 29s ago, saying: 'lol'. |
| 22:20.51 | cog|work | amro_: i've been trying to find warla for months |
| 22:21.27 | zenzelezz | what happened to him? Wasn't he working on that equipment website thing? |
| 22:21.33 | amro | yep |
| 22:21.50 | amro | he said he was going to put up the code for it but then disappeared |
| 22:22.28 | Mr_Rabies2 | hooooooooonk. |
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| 22:22.32 | zenzelezz | hrm, my logs don't go far enough back to see anything |
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| 22:51.33 | cog|work | AnduinLothar: n00b 4 joo http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=1371457670&sid=1 |
| 22:51.45 | cog|work | (i don't know the answer) |
| 22:56.47 | cog|work | Blue wins again http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=1371467602 |
| 22:57.28 | Lunessa | Oh god. This is NOT a day I should be at work. |
| 22:58.25 | Kaydeethree | servers crashing? mass insanity at the office? undergrads going nuts? |
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| 22:58.56 | Lunessa | Let's just say that stupidity is rampant and I want to kill someone every time the phone rings. |
| 22:59.02 | AnduinLothar | cog|work: it's triggered by the onenter |
| 22:59.29 | cog|work | ah |
| 22:59.31 | Lunessa | Not even Evanescence and caffeine seem to help. |
| 22:59.51 | AnduinLothar | mmm caffine |
| 22:59.53 | AnduinLothar | wtb |
| 22:59.57 | Cidan | ewww Evanescence |
| 22:59.58 | Cidan | :D |
| 23:00.05 | AnduinLothar | i have alcohol, but that's not the same effect |
| 23:00.27 | JoshBorke | kind of the opposite effect as alcohol really |
| 23:00.32 | Lunessa | If I could have alcohol I'd be happier. |
| 23:00.38 | ckknight | irish coffee? |
| 23:00.43 | AnduinLothar | they do have alcoholic energy drinks |
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| 23:00.50 | ckknight | the caffeine and alcohol cancel each other out |
| 23:00.54 | JoshBorke | wow, they are brilliant |
| 23:00.57 | Lunessa | light on the goddamned coffee, heavy on the irish |
| 23:01.00 | AnduinLothar | i've been meanign to try one, when i'm away from sharp objects |
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| 23:02.50 | Lunessa | Yeah, that's what I need... stimulants + alcohol - throw in something hallucinogenic and I'm all set. |
| 23:03.03 | Lunessa | ... </sarcasm> |
| 23:03.22 | Cidan | Caffie does NOT cancel out alcohol |
| 23:03.26 | Cidan | That is a myth. |
| 23:03.47 | Cidan | And a rather silly one, at that. |
| 23:04.33 | Cidan | er, also Caffeine |
| 23:04.35 | Cidan | :D |
| 23:07.01 | Lunessa | Yeah, wide awake, hyper drunks! |
| 23:07.07 | Cidan | pretty much |
| 23:07.28 | Cidan | the alcohol impares your ability to metabolize the caffeine |
| 23:07.36 | Cidan | so you get the best of both worlds. |
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| 23:08.23 | Lunessa | cog|work: Full of Awesome and Win: "There isn't a "Don't talk like a Ninja Day" " |
| 23:08.27 | alestane | zignik |
| 23:08.42 | alestane | er. mt |
| 23:08.51 | cog|work | :) |
| 23:09.12 | alestane | ckknight: Does Cartographer_Import support CTMapMod? |
| 23:09.23 | Lunessa | Only that should have the "Don't" removed. :P |
| 23:10.58 | cog|work | Lunessa: actually the problem is the ambiguity in the english language :P |
| 23:11.28 | cog|work | It's not (don't) (talk like a ninja) (day) but (don't talk) (like a ninja) (day) |
| 23:11.49 | Lunessa | Bah. You killed the funny. |
| 23:14.12 | cog|work | but that's what i thought you liked about it :P |
| 23:14.35 | cog|work | it's what *i* liked about it :( |
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| 23:15.55 | Lunessa | Hah. I likes my twisted humor. |
| 23:16.20 | Lunessa | 8) It's all good cog|work |
| 23:16.26 | cog|work | I wish we spoke Lojban |
| 23:16.30 | Wobin_ | aw |
| 23:16.34 | Shirik | so.... apparently I'm going to be a lab instructor |
| 23:16.39 | Shirik | of a class I took last semester o.o |
| 23:16.47 | Wobin_ | I -want- a (Don't) talk like a ninja day |
| 23:16.52 | Shirik | that's a rather sudden jump :P |
| 23:17.05 | Wobin_ | Shirik: could be indicative of the skill required =) |
| 23:17.07 | cog|work | gg Shirik |
| 23:17.39 | Wobin_ | They probably don't need you to do the course again =) Just have knowledge of the course |
| 23:18.06 | Shirik | I assume so :P |
| 23:18.30 | Wobin_ | "I look forward to killing you soon!" |
| 23:19.09 | Shirik | Three little letters separate "buy" from "die" |
| 23:19.15 | Shirik | Nin! Ja! Mart! Store! |
| 23:20.16 | Wobin_ | AskANinja is ftw |
| 23:26.44 | Lunessa | OMG - I SO need a use for this font: http://www.dafont.com/pottymouth-bb.font |
| 23:33.51 | Shirik | qq, Rhapsody support finally gave me a reasoning behind why I can't run it :( |
| 23:33.52 | Shirik | > Are you using the 64 bit installation of Windows Vista? If so unfortunately Rhapsody is not compatible with 64 bit Windows versions at this time. |
| 23:34.00 | Shirik | ~lart Rhapsody |
| 23:34.00 | purl | pushes the wall down onto Rhapsody whilst whistling innocently |
| 23:34.14 | Shirik | anyway, I'm going to head out for a bit. Take care guys |
| 23:41.03 | Corrodias | i can dream about you, if i can't hold you tonight |
| 23:43.09 | alestane | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:43.53 | Kaydeethree | it stands for "luser attitude readjustment tool" |
| 23:43.54 | Kaydeethree | ~dict luser |
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| 23:45.01 | alestane | What's the right bit depth for .tgas for max compatibility with WoW? |
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| 23:50.37 | Lunessa | 24bit + Alpha channel |
| 23:51.35 | alestane | I'll need to resave that then. |
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| 23:57.51 | Maldivia | hmm... looking at that screen size thread on the forums, just makes me want to bitch yet again at the makers of monitors... |
| 23:58.11 | Corrodias | why? |
| 23:59.07 | Maldivia | because I've yet to find a 19" or 20" at 1920x1200, can only find 23"+ |
| 23:59.23 | Maldivia | unless it is in laptops |
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