| 00:00.29 | alestane | So, will the actions you put in your berserker bar end up in your defensive bar when stance:2 goes from being zer to def? |
| 00:00.33 | alestane | zerk* |
| 00:00.50 | clad|book | I know that there are bonus bar offsets, based on stance. |
| 00:00.58 | clad|book | if a druid doesn't get bear form, and gets cat form first |
| 00:01.09 | clad|book | that he'll get the BEAR bar when going into car form, based on offset |
| 00:01.19 | clad|book | when get gets bear form, then his bear form bar would still contain all the cat form buttons |
| 00:01.23 | clad|book | and cat form would be empty |
| 00:01.30 | alestane | That's what I wanted to know. |
| 00:01.36 | clad|book | np :P |
| 00:01.52 | clad|book | Anyone played with other sound file formats, or can we just play .wav and.mp3? |
| 00:01.57 | alestane | Kaydeethree: That picture is frightening to me as a warlock. |
| 00:02.49 | Kaydeethree | I've only played with .wav and .mp3... |
| 00:03.08 | Lunessa | Kaydeethree: So much felhound-age. So much. |
| 00:03.15 | Kaydeethree | I've got oggs and flacs lying around, somewhere |
| 00:03.26 | clad|book | ogg doesn't work |
| 00:03.28 | clad|book | tested it |
| 00:05.01 | alestane | think slouken'll give us text stance conditionals? [stance:cat form] etc? |
| 00:05.38 | JoshBorke | makes the macros too long :-D |
| 00:05.50 | alestane | I don't want [stance:1] to stop working. |
| 00:06.08 | Rallion | I wish I'd bought Metroid today. |
| 00:06.08 | alestane | I don't want it for macros either, I want it for RegisterStateDriver() |
| 00:07.45 | amro | gnight all |
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| 00:08.25 | Kaydeethree | ahahaha... very first response wins the thread. http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=1272321482&sid=1 |
| 00:08.32 | alestane | Oh gawd, and he did make it state-sensitive as long as you're willing to jump through ungodly hoops. |
| 00:14.01 | alestane | We really need to get away from this button-remapping thing for state selection. |
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| 00:16.40 | Wraanger | heyaz |
| 00:16.51 | Valaron|Work | Yo |
| 00:23.15 | Lunessa | This quote is full of win, "It seems everytime somebody asks for a loan of gold they take the money and end up leaving shortly afterwards. Now I only loan money to people I don't like. Its a good investment to be rid of them :)" |
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| 00:52.50 | alestane | lua> nil == false |
| 00:52.50 | cladbot | alestane: false |
| 00:53.26 | alestane | Just checking |
| 00:53.56 | JoshBorke | lua> nil ~= false |
| 00:53.56 | cladbot | JoshBorke: true |
| 00:54.11 | JoshBorke | lua> nil or false or true and false or nil and true or false |
| 00:54.11 | cladbot | JoshBorke: false |
| 00:54.19 | JoshBorke | lua> nil or false or true and false or nil and true or false or nil |
| 00:54.19 | cladbot | JoshBorke: nil |
| 00:54.52 | alestane | Yes but... |
| 00:54.58 | alestane | lua> nil < 0 |
| 00:54.58 | cladbot | alestane: [string "return nil < 0"]:1: attempt to compare nil with number |
| 00:55.07 | JoshBorke | lua> false > nil |
| 00:55.07 | cladbot | JoshBorke: [string "return false > nil"]:1: attempt to compare nil with boolean |
| 00:55.22 | alestane | lua> true > false |
| 00:55.22 | cladbot | alestane: [string "return true > false"]:1: attempt to compare two boolean values |
| 00:55.33 | alestane | Are we bored or what? |
| 00:55.58 | JoshBorke | i'm procrastinating |
| 00:56.02 | JoshBorke | lua> #true > false |
| 00:56.02 | cladbot | JoshBorke: [string "return #true > false"]:1: attempt to get length of a boolean value |
| 00:56.07 | Lunessa | Hell, I don't know about you lot, but I'm at /work/ |
| 00:56.51 | JoshBorke | i'm not |
| 00:57.42 | JoshBorke | it's 9pm here |
| 00:59.14 | Lunessa | I work until 10:30pm local |
| 00:59.22 | alestane | Ouch, what do you do? |
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| 00:59.55 | clad|book | if you have somethign you want to test multiple times, please use #luabot or msg cladbot directly, so as not to spam the channel :P |
| 01:00.01 | clad|book | the occasional command is fine :P |
| 01:00.17 | alestane | Duly noted. |
| 01:00.17 | JoshBorke | lua> print("~lart clad") |
| 01:00.17 | cladbot | JoshBorke: ~lart clad |
| 01:02.32 | Lunessa | I work for a university in IT |
| 01:03.28 | JoshBorke | me too! |
| 01:04.21 | alestane | Nice, my system has diff installed already (OSX FTW)...now to just figure out all these $#^% options. |
| 01:05.04 | JoshBorke | -Naur |
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| 01:10.16 | alestane | well, I've tackled everything except the whole bonus bar issue...now my brain hurts and I think I need to go play WoW for a little while. |
| 01:12.33 | cogwheel | have fun :) |
| 01:13.10 | alestane | BTW take a look at ACtionButton_GetPagedID() in the latest build. |
| 01:13.16 | AnduinLothar | this is fairly impressive http://www.computerworld.com/action/article.do?command=viewArticleBasic&articleId=9033302 |
| 01:14.11 | AnduinLothar | alestane, if you have the dev package installed for osx you should also have the FileMerge gui for diff |
| 01:14.43 | alestane | I don't think I did install the dev package since I wasn't writing anything at the time. |
| 01:15.12 | AnduinLothar | it's worth having. you need it for compiling things anyway |
| 01:15.25 | AnduinLothar | you can dl it from ADC with free registration |
| 01:15.34 | alestane | I think it came with my computer. |
| 01:15.41 | AnduinLothar | should have |
| 01:15.43 | alestane | I just didn't install it. |
| 01:15.59 | AnduinLothar | latest xCode vers is at http://developer.apple.com/tools/download/ |
| 01:16.22 | alestane | I'm actually registered with the ADC already since I used to code a lot more. |
| 01:18.11 | alestane | Does it need more than 4Gb? |
| 01:18.24 | AnduinLothar | ? |
| 01:18.43 | AnduinLothar | look at http://developer.apple.com/tools/download/ |
| 01:18.44 | alestane | That's what I have free on my application partition. |
| 01:19.14 | alestane | Looks like not. |
| 01:19.42 | AnduinLothar | my Developer folder is 2.27 gb |
| 01:20.19 | AnduinLothar | the ADC Reference Library in it is 1.47 of that |
| 01:20.37 | Kaydeethree | oh wow... talk about a quick turnaround |
| 01:20.45 | Kaydeethree | there's going to be a new ptr build tonight. |
| 01:20.48 | Kaydeethree | last one was yesterday |
| 01:20.58 | AnduinLothar | voice chat work on mac yet? |
| 01:21.04 | alestane | Yes. |
| 01:21.07 | Kaydeethree | it's worked on ppc for a few builds now |
| 01:21.08 | alestane | PPC mac even. |
| 01:21.17 | Lunessa | They're getting closer to release time then. They're pushing out more patches. :) |
| 01:21.35 | AnduinLothar | i dunno, last time i tried it seemed to have been reverted so that it didn't even include any of the voice gui |
| 01:21.38 | Kaydeethree | nah... 7153 just had a lot of noticable, big errors. hopefully easy to fix |
| 01:21.52 | alestane | They did maintenance today, think they'll break their schedule and do it next week, or are we still two weeks + away? |
| 01:22.13 | Kaydeethree | if the next build is fairly stable and bug free, the 3rd is possible |
| 01:22.21 | Kaydeethree | I doubt it |
| 01:22.24 | clad|book | they can break the schedule whenever they want |
| 01:22.31 | clad|book | they were forthcoming about that :P |
| 01:22.45 | alestane | They did. |
| 01:24.08 | alestane | Any shadow priests on? |
| 01:24.13 | JoshBorke | i am |
| 01:24.22 | JoshBorke | clad's a n00b |
| 01:24.27 | AnduinLothar | does the new patch still disable assisted devices? |
| 01:24.40 | clad|book | i am a shadow priest as well |
| 01:24.44 | clad|book | whats up? |
| 01:24.48 | Kaydeethree | "assisted devices"? |
| 01:24.49 | alestane | Does your action bar do the little slide up and down thing when you hit shadowform, or just *blink* change actions? |
| 01:24.56 | clad|book | i believe it slides |
| 01:24.57 | clad|book | lemme look |
| 01:25.06 | clad|book | is today tuesday? |
| 01:25.09 | alestane | It is. |
| 01:25.12 | cogwheel | yeth |
| 01:25.12 | Kaydeethree | yup |
| 01:25.17 | clad|book | good, i can log into my main, no raid :; |
| 01:25.32 | JoshBorke | lol |
| 01:28.02 | clad|book | it slidesit slides |
| 01:28.21 | alestane | Just rogues and shadowform priests that do that though...interesting. |
| 01:37.31 | Lunessa | Am I the only who who gets a shiver out of clad|book saying "it slides"? |
| 01:37.51 | alestane | I think so hon. |
| 01:37.54 | clad|book | lol |
| 01:37.55 | Kaydeethree | something else on your mind, lunessa? |
| 01:38.13 | Lunessa | No, not really. Well no more than normal. |
| 01:38.22 | Lunessa | It just struck me oddly. |
| 01:39.07 | alestane | "Then, it struck me!" *Unh!!* "Twenty years later and she still knocked me out..." |
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| 01:39.21 | AnduinLothar | random question: anyone have a favorite < $100 portable air conditioner/evaporator? |
| 01:39.55 | Naurbrannon | hi there, may I please ask you a brief question about macros? |
| 01:40.00 | clad|book | ~asktoask |
| 01:40.01 | purl | This is IRC. Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question and if someone's around, they'll be glad to help. |
| 01:40.04 | cogwheel | Getting a bit toasty down in socal? |
| 01:40.07 | Naurbrannon | :) |
| 01:40.09 | clad|book | Lunessa: pwnt |
| 01:40.34 | Lunessa | PWNT. I must hang my head in shame, muttering "it slides, it slides" over and over. |
| 01:41.02 | Lunessa | Naurbrannon: Ask away |
| 01:41.05 | Naurbrannon | ok....let's say that (with my warlock) I have a banishable mob as my focus, my current pet is imp, why does the macro "/cast [pet:Succubus, target=focus, harm, exists]Seduction;[pet:Felhunter, target=player]Devour Magic; [target=focus, harm, exists]Banish" make an error message? |
| 01:41.13 | AnduinLothar | it's been toasty all summer, but i'm dieing in my room. my apt has a wall air unit on the oppositte side of the apt that doesn't reach to my computer. and my compy's putting out way too much heat for it to be comfortable here |
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| 01:41.32 | JoshBorke | turn it off :-P |
| 01:41.35 | cogwheel | AnduinLothar: you'll want either a window mount or a dual hose portable for best results... I can't imagine there would be any reasonably reliable or effective ones for < $100 though |
| 01:41.40 | AnduinLothar | other option is a window fan pointed out and try and get the cool air to filter in here |
| 01:41.41 | Naurbrannon | the error message in question is the "addon used tainted function etc....", but actually that addon make no use of the castspellbyname |
| 01:41.55 | Naurbrannon | if I disable that addon it will try to lock another one, tried already |
| 01:42.08 | alestane | Id you go through it until it stopped? |
| 01:42.11 | alestane | did* |
| 01:42.24 | clad|book | ~emulate lunessa |
| 01:42.24 | purl | ACTION glances around shamefully saying "it slides, it slides" |
| 01:42.26 | Kaydeethree | you've got a taint chain. keep going until you stop getting that error, get an update to the last addon you disabled, reenable all of the earlier addons you disabled |
| 01:42.30 | AnduinLothar | it doesn't have to be very effective, i only need it to cool this 15' by 20' room |
| 01:42.43 | AnduinLothar | and there's a window here |
| 01:42.58 | Naurbrannon | I see, meh and thanks |
| 01:43.04 | Lunessa | clad|book: omg, the shame. I'll have to move, and none of the Harry Potter fans will talk to me anymore. |
| 01:43.11 | cogwheel | window mount would probably be best then as it would take up the least space in the room... but you're probably looking at > $100 unless you go used |
| 01:43.26 | clad|book | lol |
| 01:43.38 | Naurbrannon | and about the conditioner, you won't find one so cheap, the cheaper one I was able to find with a decent class (class B) costed me 200 euros |
| 01:43.45 | Naurbrannon | monoblock |
| 01:44.06 | Rallion | I love programs that are cool but useless |
| 01:44.13 | Rallion | Example: SpaceMonger |
| 01:44.59 | Kaydeethree | why the hell did that just remind me of the flying toasters screensaver from after dark? |
| 01:45.08 | Lunessa | Gah. Once again I've managed to work right past the time the cafe closes, and needs must leave campus to get food. /whine/ |
| 01:45.13 | Wobwork | I wanted to write an addon that did that |
| 01:45.22 | Wobwork | Flying toasters, that is |
| 01:45.27 | AnduinLothar | the afterdark space game was thew best, what was that called.. |
| 01:45.33 | Wobwork | Just to break the fourth wall a bit |
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| 01:47.25 | alestane | "Flying out of the sun, the smell of toast is in the air...." |
| 01:47.43 | cogwheel | Does it strike anyone else as ... well... appropriate that the video of the new iMac looks designed for left-handed people? http://www.apple.com/imac/ |
| 01:47.59 | |Jelly| | Dirty left handers. |
| 01:48.34 | Lunessa | cogwheel: I saw that yesterday on TV, and I chuckled. |
| 01:48.53 | Naurbrannon | or...even stranger, I disabled the addon again and the macro was working (it sometimes works sometime doesn't), I made a syntax error on purpose ("exist" instead of "esists") and now the macro stopped working again (asking to bloc another addon, the second one I had before) |
| 01:49.50 | Lunessa | The answer is still the same as before. You've got something that is causing your execution to be tainted. |
| 01:50.05 | AnduinLothar | the new keyboards are pretty awesome |
| 01:50.20 | AnduinLothar | played with um at fry's |
| 01:50.33 | cogwheel | yeah... but you see all the crap that gets inside |
| 01:50.35 | Lunessa | I would like to get a new iMac for home use. But they're spendy. |
| 01:50.37 | AnduinLothar | tho i think the old ones are prolly more resistant to spilling |
| 01:50.57 | AnduinLothar | vog, think you're talkign about the old ones |
| 01:51.00 | AnduinLothar | cog* |
| 01:51.02 | cogwheel | oh |
| 01:51.28 | AnduinLothar | the white and clear ones are great, i have both wired and bluetooth ones |
| 01:51.34 | AnduinLothar | but they have new ones |
| 01:52.16 | AnduinLothar | http://www.apple.com/keyboard/ |
| 01:52.26 | ckknight | cogwheel: seems a little ...sinister |
| 01:52.30 | Lunessa | I like the iMac I use here in the office, but I'm not a fan of the keyboard. I want an ergo/split one. |
| 01:52.41 | AnduinLothar | erg, i hate the split ones |
| 01:53.08 | Lunessa | I don't. I love them. very comfy for my CTS having self. |
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| 01:53.50 | Lunessa | The split/ergo keyboard and trackballs made it possible for me not to have to switch professions. |
| 01:53.57 | AnduinLothar | prolly cause i never qite learned how to type home row |
| 01:54.37 | AnduinLothar | i like my right handed logitech lazer mouse |
| 01:54.48 | AnduinLothar | but i have huge hands |
| 01:54.58 | Lunessa | AnduinLothar: I'm a 4 finger typist, hunt and peck, and 55wpm. |
| 01:55.05 | AnduinLothar | so i tend to only hold mice with like 2 fingers |
| 01:57.16 | AnduinLothar | mmm, perhaps i jsut need a box fan |
| 02:00.18 | AnduinLothar | hmm i could get a box fan and a desk fan for -$0.43 if i sign up for an amazon visa.. |
| 02:00.21 | Lunessa | I'm looking at the "Post your UI" stuff, and thinking... I keep way to much shit on screen. |
| 02:01.13 | cogwheel | Lunessa: I look at those threads and think... I care a hell of a lot more about the "pretty" in the game world than the "pretty" in my UI |
| 02:01.56 | cogwheel | I'd rather spend $400 on a bitchin' video card than spend an hour decking out my UI with custom textures, cycircled, and all that |
| 02:02.41 | Lunessa | cogwheel: Most of my ui modding is to make it possible for me to see MORE of the game world, and look less at my clutter. |
| 02:03.07 | Lunessa | But I'm still too much of a buttons/bars kind of guy. |
| 02:03.47 | Lunessa | And I might be upgrading soon - since I picked up some nice machines that need new HDs and use PCIExpress mobos instead of my cheesy AGP one. |
| 02:04.33 | Naurbrannon | mmm, seems like it fixed, but I'm kinda puzzled now, the last addon I was asked to disable was chatLink, which have nothing to do with secure stuff :S |
| 02:04.45 | Lunessa | Ummm.... |
| 02:04.50 | cogwheel | Naurbrannon: taint moves in mysterious ways |
| 02:05.02 | Lunessa | Chat hooks are pervasive and can taint LOTS of things. |
| 02:05.21 | cogwheel | I should look at that... i still need an example of that kind of thing for the chapter i'm working on |
| 02:05.43 | Naurbrannon | too bad, it's so a nice addon....and it never gave any problem, sonly with this macro <_< |
| 02:05.54 | cogwheel | what's the macro again? |
| 02:06.01 | Naurbrannon | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:06.08 | Naurbrannon | the banish part |
| 02:06.46 | cogwheel | thanks... added to my collective :) |
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| 02:07.05 | Naurbrannon | too bad there's no conditional for the mob's family (demon/elemental/etc..) |
| 02:07.17 | Kaydeethree | intentionally |
| 02:07.23 | cogwheel | You think taint's a bitch to deal with, you should try thoroughly describing it |
| 02:07.24 | Naurbrannon | no no don't use the macro, use my wonderful addon called reseduce2 that you can find on curse :P |
| 02:07.55 | abug | you can still bypass taint since 2.2 isn't out yet |
| 02:08.04 | cogwheel | ~lart abug |
| 02:08.04 | purl | slaps a compatible dib on abug's head |
| 02:08.26 | Lunessa | cogwheel: No <bleep> describing that is worse than describing focus to someone using only the default ui. |
| 02:08.28 | abug | I've been larted |
| 02:09.14 | Naurbrannon | well I don't care much of that, as I'd have to change it anyway |
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| 02:09.42 | cogwheel | While I recognize most of the people in this channel are mature enough only to try that out as an academic exercise, it makes me uneasy to see discussions (even if indirect) of exploits |
| 02:10.06 | cogwheel | in such a public place, anyway... |
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| 02:11.01 | abug | what's a good free alternative to Sound Crapcorder? |
| 02:11.08 | cogwheel | Audacity |
| 02:11.18 | cogwheel | it's sort of like the Gimp of sound editors |
| 02:11.22 | abug | awesome |
| 02:11.25 | abug | thanks coggy |
| 02:11.30 | cogwheel | :) |
| 02:11.35 | ckknight | trying to break the system is fun, cogwheel |
| 02:11.41 | cogwheel | Agreed :P |
| 02:12.16 | cogwheel | but considering we get people asking for private server addresses from time to time, I'd rather try to keep things like that on the down-low |
| 02:12.59 | ckknight | the private server people can lick my balls |
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| 02:13.23 | ckknight | imho. |
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| 02:14.14 | alestane | Like the way Slouken said he'd love to here about it if we found a way to break that SV avenue we were talking about? I can just hear the "So I can brick it up completely" that he didn't say. |
| 02:14.15 | cogwheel | yeah, but i would assume there are far more people willing to exploit legit wow than people who use private servers |
| 02:14.18 | Lunessa | feel strongly ck? |
| 02:15.00 | ckknight | everyone enjoys a good ball-licking |
| 02:15.04 | ckknight | myself included |
| 02:15.10 | WobWor1 | unless it's the dog doing it |
| 02:15.10 | Lunessa | Just checking. |
| 02:15.45 | ckknight | quite, WobWor1 |
| 02:16.10 | cogwheel | All i'm saying is if we're not allowed to talk about particular bots and how to use them and we shouldn't be talking about illegal servers, it's probably a good idea to remain consistent with the UI system |
| 02:16.55 | Lunessa | Hey, I'm all for not showing people where to poke their fingers into the back-end broken bits. :) |
| 02:17.10 | ckknight | I don't like private servers primarily because they're like never up to date with the patches |
| 02:17.13 | cogwheel | Why did goatse come to mind? |
| 02:17.15 | ckknight | so as a UI dev, they cause me grief |
| 02:17.16 | WobWork | Lunessa: or at least use lube |
| 02:17.28 | cogwheel | (if you don't know, DON'T ASK) |
| 02:17.31 | abug | kind of like wowbench |
| 02:17.34 | abug | cough |
| 02:17.41 | Kaydeethree | egah |
| 02:18.03 | cogwheel | (I'm serious... I think i'm damaged for life) |
| 02:18.07 | Lunessa | Damn. I didn't go there. SO didn't go THERE |
| 02:18.16 | Naurbrannon | mmm reenabled all other addons in the taint chain that I disabled before but chatlink and got the error again, is it possible that more than on addon is causing me those problems? |
| 02:18.18 | buu | Bah. |
| 02:18.22 | buu | Goatse is so boring these days. |
| 02:18.27 | buu | Stop pretending. |
| 02:18.28 | Kaydeethree | Naurbrannon, yes |
| 02:18.35 | WobWork | tubgirl the way to go nowadays? |
| 02:18.41 | WobWork | Or perhaps lemonparty? |
| 02:18.41 | buu | At the very least. |
| 02:18.43 | Kaydeethree | or meatspin |
| 02:18.47 | buu | Old. |
| 02:18.48 | Naurbrannon | eww, the next in line was CT_Core >.< |
| 02:18.53 | cogwheel | (seriously people... don't google if you value your sanity) |
| 02:19.03 | Lunessa | NSFW |
| 02:19.14 | WobWork | buu: Lemonparty? Yes... old would be a good description |
| 02:19.17 | cogwheel | ZOMGROFLBBQLAZERSPEWPEWNSFW |
| 02:19.25 | buu | WobWork: Pah. |
| 02:19.25 | Naurbrannon | aaaa never again mention lemonparty please |
| 02:19.34 | buu | WobWork: Shitting dick nipples is where it's at. |
| 02:19.40 | Kaydeethree | meh... one of these days I'm going to get a shot of a road sign on I-16 "Tubman Museum" |
| 02:20.11 | AnduinLothar | someone meatspinned my guild.... i wanted to stab him |
| 02:20.16 | cogwheel | I find that far less disturbing than the others |
| 02:20.26 | WobWork | wouldn't that be meatspun? |
| 02:20.33 | AnduinLothar | w/e |
| 02:20.36 | abug | how many spins did you make? |
| 02:21.07 | Lunessa | bah... that was supposed to be "thong" |
| 02:21.09 | Kaydeethree | speaking of private servers... |
| 02:21.11 | AnduinLothar | quite a few, i actually scrolled down to see if he'd gotten a custom url for it or what |
| 02:21.15 | Kaydeethree | someone's asking how to get on to one in the PTR |
| 02:21.32 | cogwheel | Kaydeethree: :S |
| 02:21.41 | Kaydeethree | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=1272361824 |
| 02:22.46 | Naurbrannon | lol |
| 02:22.54 | cogwheel | responded :P |
| 02:23.52 | Naurbrannon | hihi nice andwer :P |
| 02:23.53 | WobWork | =( |
| 02:23.56 | WobWork | nothing at that link |
| 02:24.24 | |Jelly| | I'm laying watching a bunch of retards wipe on Gruul so I figure why not post a little? |
| 02:26.07 | Lunessa | I've never been to Gruul's Lair. |
| 02:26.22 | WobWork | It's not too bad |
| 02:26.42 | WobWork | stupid shatters can make it horrible though |
| 02:26.59 | |Jelly| | I had like six people try to hug me. |
| 02:27.33 | WobWork | bastards =) |
| 02:27.53 | WobWork | I'm always like "No no! This is -MY- hiding spot! go away!!" |
| 02:28.01 | Kaydeethree | wow... 170 views in the PTR maint thread... I wonder if my first response scared off the "zomg are we getting new premades" posters |
| 02:28.18 | |Jelly| | It's like...I'm up against the wall and everyone else goes "HOLY SHIT! I HAVE TO GO TOWARDS THAT PRIEST!" |
| 02:28.47 | Lunessa | hah |
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| 02:29.33 | Lunessa | Like the guys who get "Murmur's Touch" or who become the bomb in MC always manage to run RIGHT to me. |
| 02:29.42 | |Jelly| | Exactly. |
| 02:29.54 | WobWork | We put raid icons on our healers |
| 02:29.57 | WobWork | it kinda worked =P |
| 02:30.09 | WobWork | "HUG THE SKULL!" |
| 02:30.35 | |Jelly| | haha |
| 02:31.11 | Kaydeethree | heh... being the bomb target rocked... I was the mark for nearly a month because I would sit in the healer camp for the first few weeks and no one would work up the nerve to take me out and get the healers too |
| 02:31.13 | Lunessa | I play my shaman mostly now. I bust out the priestess for friends and for runs of people who won't blow me off when I need to do things. |
| 02:31.35 | Rallion | it's so annoying to me that a temporary res reduction for a fullscreen app moves Vista desktop widgets around...anchor them to the nearest edge, dammit! |
| 02:32.27 | Lunessa | Or how about apps that weren't designed with widescreen in mind? |
| 02:32.56 | Rallion | that's a problem I don't experience myself, heh |
| 02:33.17 | Rallion | forget 4:3, I run in 5:4 |
| 02:33.37 | Kaydeethree | woo 5:4 |
| 02:34.03 | Rallion | stupid LCD making anything other than 1280x1024 look like a big old ass |
| 02:40.21 | cogwheel | Please don't say "big old ass" for the next 24-48 hours |
| 02:41.01 | Naurbrannon | is it worst than lemonparty? don't think so |
| 02:41.14 | Lunessa | cogwheel: LOL |
| 02:41.22 | Kaydeethree | hm... 20 minutes until the PTR forum qq-fest beings |
| 02:41.27 | Kaydeethree | s/beings/begins/ |
| 02:41.34 | cogwheel | lemonparty didn't bother me nearly as much as tubgirl or goatse |
| 02:44.34 | Naurbrannon | so....had to disable 3 addons, CT_Core only give me problems if there's an error on the macro syntax so I think I'll keep it |
| 02:46.19 | |Jelly| | [R] <Jelly>: I did pick; I wont install KTM. -- hmm |
| 02:46.30 | cogwheel | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=1272261778 |
| 02:47.36 | Kaydeethree | but can you use msis to move files around inside .mpqs? |
| 02:48.11 | cogwheel | sure... just include an exe and set it to launch at the end |
| 02:48.11 | Lunessa | cog... oooo... good call. |
| 02:48.56 | cogwheel | it should end up running at the same privilege as the installer itself |
| 02:49.23 | cogwheel | (or something like that) |
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| 02:56.35 | cogwheel | evening, Iriel |
| 02:56.41 | *** mode/#wowi-lounge [+o Iriel] by ChanServ |
| 02:56.43 | alestane | Woot! |
| 02:56.46 | Iriel | Evening |
| 02:56.58 | Iriel | Must find a decent mac IRC client |
| 02:57.06 | alestane | I'm using Colloquy. |
| 02:57.17 | clad|book | indeed Colloquy is the win. |
| 02:58.01 | Nom- | haha freshly painted wall |
| 02:58.12 | Nom- | I wonder how long before someone unknowingly leans up against it |
| 02:58.47 | alestane | While you're doing that, I'm going to rectify the mistake I made earlier today when someone had a similar name: |
| 02:58.56 | clad|book | Iriel: Have you installed the safari 3 beta? |
| 02:58.58 | cogwheel | Heh... I just found out I have 12 songs in both an original version and a Richard Cheese cover >< |
| 02:58.59 | alestane | 1) Thank you for the SecureTemplates in all their glory. |
| 02:59.11 | Nom- | Why is there going to be a QQfest on the PTR |
| 02:59.12 | Nom- | ? |
| 02:59.19 | alestane | 2) Thanks for all your help in understanding them. |
| 02:59.29 | Kaydeethree | Nom-, ptrs are down for 4-6 hours |
| 02:59.37 | Nom- | ah |
| 02:59.39 | Nom- | another patch ? |
| 02:59.40 | Iriel | clad|book:No, I haven't enjoyed safari much |
| 02:59.44 | Kaydeethree | probably |
| 02:59.52 | Nom- | Well, i'm pleased by what I saw last night |
| 02:59.59 | Kaydeethree | 7153 is busted to hell and back on vista machines |
| 02:59.59 | Nom- | I was online for a couple of hours without a crash |
| 03:00.02 | Nom- | That's a good sign |
| 03:00.05 | clad|book | good, the safari 3 beta webkit conflicts with colloquy right now, that's why say. |
| 03:00.19 | Nom- | ORLY? I was playing on the PTR about 12 hours ago |
| 03:00.24 | Nom- | I use Vista, and it was stable |
| 03:00.34 | Nom- | I noticed some wierd audio glitches every now and then, but no crashes |
| 03:00.41 | alestane | Doesn't mean it was stable for everyone using Vista. |
| 03:00.41 | Kaydeethree | you must be one of the rare ones |
| 03:00.48 | Thunder_Child | yea, i have no issues with the PTR on vista |
| 03:00.51 | Kaydeethree | reports all over the place of people freezing at the login screen |
| 03:01.01 | Nom- | woa |
| 03:01.01 | Thunder_Child | although i have the sound off if that makes a diff |
| 03:01.06 | Nom- | Void Reaver has a door now? |
| 03:01.07 | Iriel | alestane: 8-) |
| 03:01.25 | alestane | Of course, I'm also industriously rewriting parts. |
| 03:01.26 | Iriel | Brb in the afforementioned other client |
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| 03:02.54 | Legorol | cogwheel: your post on the sugestion forum is amusing. The response is legendary. |
| 03:03.05 | alestane | And speaking of SecureTemplates, we have another change to add to the 2.2 upcoming. |
| 03:03.46 | cogwheel | Legorol: haha! |
| 03:03.47 | Iriel | Oh? What's that? |
| 03:04.20 | alestane | Action bars now use the 'actionpage' attribute to determin their page offset. |
| 03:04.21 | cogwheel | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=1272261778 |
| 03:04.29 | cogwheel | oh... you were probably talking to alestane >< |
| 03:04.36 | alestane | Popped up in the last PTR build. |
| 03:05.11 | alestane | cogwheel: That thread is hilarious BTW |
| 03:05.30 | cogwheel | it's kinda neat how secure templates are slowly spreading (like taint!) through the default UI code |
| 03:05.43 | Iriel | They're the anti-taint 8-) |
| 03:05.47 | alestane | The only way to make them default UI moddable anymore. |
| 03:05.58 | Legorol | cogwheel: have you kept the original box for your machine? ;-) |
| 03:06.07 | alestane | That's the main point of my FrameXML thing we were talking about before. |
| 03:06.39 | Lunessa | cogwheel: http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=1272001691&sid=1 Thanks. Now I'm going to be singing, "One of these things is not like the others" all gorram night. |
| 03:06.57 | cogwheel | literal ROFL |
| 03:07.08 | cogwheel | (okay... LOL) |
| 03:08.46 | alestane | You ever notice that, when you're killing mobs in an area, and there are quest mobs and non-quests mobs there, a sort of natural selection eventually turns them all into non-quest mobs? |
| 03:09.08 | cogwheel | Iriel: http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=1272261763#4 :P |
| 03:09.21 | cogwheel | alestane: yes! |
| 03:09.56 | cogwheel | I think they did a better job on the outland though... I've seen a lot more static mob spawn points |
| 03:10.27 | alestane | Outland also needed some adjustments to accomodate the 'gold rush' mentality that accompanied TBC. |
| 03:10.34 | cogwheel | random spawn types always pissed me off |
| 03:11.25 | Xinhuan | 'gold rush' mentality? |
| 03:11.30 | alestane | One more crystaliized scale...Blackened Basilisk is both a mob and an item. |
| 03:11.31 | Iriel | Ooh, handy, Coliloquy lets me split windows. yay |
| 03:11.38 | Iriel | Thanks for the suggestion folks. |
| 03:11.47 | alestane | When TBC came out, EVERY 60 in the game flocked to HFP. |
| 03:11.51 | AnduinLothar | Coliloquy is awesome |
| 03:11.52 | Lunessa | The one basic flaw I see in all MMOs with loot is that ... well, getting loot to drop from a random mob, with a randomized loot table basically sucks. |
| 03:12.15 | AnduinLothar | Colloquy actually |
| 03:12.27 | alestane | *cough* Khadgar's Essays on Transdimensional Mechanics *cough* |
| 03:13.00 | Iriel | Yes indeed, Colloquy, wierd name. |
| 03:13.11 | alestane | Means, "Talking together". |
| 03:13.33 | alestane | Like Colloqium. |
| 03:13.34 | Xinhuan | what has flocking to HFP got to do with gold rush mentality? |
| 03:13.46 | Xinhuan | everyone went there only because it was the only zone for 60-61 content |
| 03:13.58 | alestane | That was where the action was...like California in the 1850s. |
| 03:14.16 | Lunessa | Or Alaska. |
| 03:14.21 | Kaydeethree | wha? zanga worked well as a 60-61 zone |
| 03:14.26 | WobWork | and gold fell from the sky in TBC =) |
| 03:14.26 | Kaydeethree | hfp was 58-61 iirc |
| 03:15.17 | alestane | Yeah, but everyone passed through HFP on the way there, and most of them got hooked into the easy loot and XP of HFP, so you would be fighting over spawn points with twelve other people. |
| 03:15.22 | Xinhuan | you couldn't really get to zanga without going thru HFP |
| 03:15.43 | Xinhuan | that's why WotLK will have 2 zone entry points |
| 03:15.49 | Xinhuan | rather than a single HFP |
| 03:15.55 | alestane | That will help. |
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| 03:18.32 | cogwheel | ok... so i couldn't resist replying (i really did tell myself I wouldn't) |
| 03:18.39 | cogwheel | (re: windows installer) |
| 03:18.50 | Kaydeethree | hah |
| 03:19.08 | Kaydeethree | I had to bite my tongue not to yell at that guy |
| 03:19.52 | alestane | I'm something of a sesquipedalian but I don't recognize that ten-dollar word in your reply. |
| 03:21.14 | Lunessa | phenylketonuric? |
| 03:21.16 | alestane | "phenylketonuric" |
| 03:21.22 | cogwheel | hehe. Phenylketonuria is a genetic disorder where your body can't process phenylalanine, a component of nutrasweet |
| 03:21.29 | cogwheel | can lead to brain damage |
| 03:21.31 | Lunessa | Which I suffer. |
| 03:21.46 | alestane | Cairenn's allergic to Aspertaim, right? |
| 03:21.51 | cogwheel | it's one of the things they test for when you're born |
| 03:21.58 | cogwheel | (at least these days) |
| 03:22.00 | Cairenn | alestane: yes |
| 03:22.04 | Lunessa | They test NOW. Not 37 years ago. |
| 03:22.28 | alestane | Ah. Now I understand. |
| 03:22.31 | cogwheel | allergic's a bit different though afaik |
| 03:22.42 | cogwheel | as in death now |
| 03:22.43 | Tierrie | i am allergic to white pepper |
| 03:22.46 | Tierrie | gives me a sneezing fit |
| 03:22.59 | alestane | I just thought of it, it was in her BlizzCon writeup. |
| 03:23.04 | cogwheel | yep |
| 03:23.15 | Legorol | cogwheel: you win the intarwebz |
| 03:23.18 | alestane | The whole "If I don't have this problem than it doesn't exist" mentality. |
| 03:23.22 | Legorol | but what the hell is phenylketonuric? |
| 03:23.29 | Tierrie | I need more people on my trillian list |
| 03:23.38 | cogwheel | Legorol: one who suffers from phenylketonuria |
| 03:23.43 | Tierrie | Cairenn whats your msn/icq/aim/yahoo/jabber info? |
| 03:23.43 | cogwheel | (scroll up) |
| 03:24.08 | cogwheel | alestane: I'm surprised I didn't know about it until long after the trip... |
| 03:24.20 | cogwheel | she didn't say anything about it the whole time :P |
| 03:24.25 | Cairenn | what, that I tried to get dead? |
| 03:24.26 | alestane | Cairenn's near-death experience, or something else? |
| 03:24.31 | cogwheel | yep |
| 03:24.45 | Lunessa | But she discovered she likes ice cream bite treats. |
| 03:24.47 | Cairenn | I was trying not to ruin it for everyone, didn't want folks freaking out or anything |
| 03:24.50 | Legorol | that was very scary, even to read it |
| 03:25.14 | alestane | I need one more scale so of course I have completely converted the area to rogue flame sprits. |
| 03:26.07 | Lunessa | I once ordered a drink in a bar, and chugged it ... only to discover they had used diet coke... and spent the rest of my 'clubbing night' in the emergency room. |
| 03:26.12 | alestane | I find it rather odd that mages cannot dispel magic...you would think it would be priests for curses and mages for magic. |
| 03:26.24 | cogwheel | stomach pump? |
| 03:26.44 | Lunessa | No, but lots of anti-histamines. And supervision. |
| 03:26.52 | |Jelly| | ROFLAMO |
| 03:26.56 | |Jelly| | I was just told to Fade more. |
| 03:27.11 | cogwheel | haha |
| 03:27.11 | alestane | Um, it has like a 30 second cooldown. |
| 03:27.19 | |Jelly| | And it temp... |
| 03:27.24 | |Jelly| | ...and doesn't WIPE aggro |
| 03:27.32 | |Jelly| | ...and is useless when Gruul hit me for 30k |
| 03:27.53 | alestane | Right, it's not a hate-reducer, just artificially moves you down the kill priority. |
| 03:28.09 | |Jelly| | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:28.25 | alestane | this toon SO needs Cone of Cold. |
| 03:29.07 | Lunessa | OK, I'm out for the night. Work shift is over, I want dinner and WoW. ... and a beer or three wouldn't be amiss either. |
| 03:29.11 | Lunessa | See you all tomorrow. |
| 03:29.14 | |Jelly| | Take it easy. |
| 03:29.15 | cogwheel | mmm... beer |
| 03:29.16 | alestane | Later Lunessa. |
| 03:29.17 | cogwheel | cya |
| 03:29.18 | cogwheel | brb |
| 03:29.21 | Cairenn | Lunessa: you're allergic to aspartame as well? |
| 03:29.22 | Cairenn | night |
| 03:29.23 | abug | Jelly: you need an aggro wipe like shamans |
| 03:29.35 | |Jelly| | I know, right. |
| 03:29.46 | alestane | Shaman aggro wipe == getting killed? |
| 03:29.47 | Lunessa | Cairenn: Yes, very very much so. |
| 03:29.47 | Lunessa | Night night. |
| 03:29.48 | |Jelly| | !c us burning legion klot |
| 03:29.53 | ThraeBot | |Jelly|: Klot, Level 70 Troll Shaman (41/0/20). 6729 HP; 8363 Mana; 175 mana regen; 73 mp5; 6008 Armour; 3.15% melee crit; 69 spell crit; 459 +spell dmg/heal; 4.28% dodge; 4.96% block;[[ TBR: 1910 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/2eq3gh ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/36z34c ][ Updated: Tue Aug 28 23:40:09 2007 ]] |
| 03:29.54 | Naurbrannon | ....do shamans have a aggro wipe ability? oO |
| 03:30.00 | |Jelly| | See? I know all too well. |
| 03:30.03 | abug | improved reincarnation |
| 03:30.04 | Thunder_Child | |Jelly|, use fade *before* it becomes a problem |
| 03:30.07 | Naurbrannon | hahaha |
| 03:30.35 | |Jelly| | GAH. His gear is so horrible. *cry* |
| 03:32.03 | abug | that and hypnotist's watch needs buffed, I've kept aggro after popping both |
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| 03:42.40 | Kaydeethree | heh |
| 03:42.42 | Kaydeethree | "+-- Update the talking speaker thingie if they are talking or not." |
| 03:42.51 | alestane | WTF? |
| 03:42.55 | Legorol | i lol-d at that too :D |
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| 03:43.43 | alestane | Something from the PTR forum? |
| 03:43.52 | Kaydeethree | http://spyglass-server.com/wowints/0.2.0.7125-7153.diff |
| 03:43.58 | cogwheel | Sounds like Rislyn :P (at least from the ppl I saw at blizzcon) |
| 03:44.34 | alestane | OMG is that actual FrameXML code? |
| 03:44.44 | Legorol | it's a line of comment in framexml, yes |
| 03:44.46 | Kaydeethree | diffs of it, but yes |
| 03:44.48 | cogwheel | alestane: comments are fun :) |
| 03:45.04 | Legorol | there are no easter eggs in framexml comments. i think there should be |
| 03:45.09 | alestane | You see that in the comments sometimes, lines like "This is a cheap hack but it works until the real code is ready". |
| 03:45.27 | cogwheel | I'm fond of -- START HACK (... CODE ...) -- END HACK |
| 03:45.34 | Legorol | i'd love to see a comment such as: |
| 03:45.55 | Legorol | -- I threw in this hack because slouken wouldn't give me coffee. |
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| 03:46.14 | cogwheel | I'd like to see comments in the C code where they have misspelled API names or config.wtf variables... |
| 03:46.18 | alestane | Oh, I discovered that when you imbed script handlers in the .xml file, you can't use the 'less than' sign. |
| 03:46.35 | cogwheel | < if their parser follows the standard |
| 03:46.41 | cogwheel | but very clunky |
| 03:46.47 | Cidan | Hacks? I know not what you speak of. |
| 03:46.58 | |Jelly| | I wish it would be in the guild window who's locked in what 10-man. |
| 03:47.07 | alestane | maybe, I just turned value < 0 into 0 > value. |
| 03:47.17 | Legorol | |Jelly|: write an addon! |
| 03:47.23 | |Jelly| | (without having an addon) |
| 03:47.33 | Legorol | that's more difficult :) |
| 03:47.44 | cogwheel | Cidan: if you're going to say "I know not..." at least get rid of the dangling preposition ;) |
| 03:47.45 | Cidan | He could always use faerie dust. |
| 03:47.48 | Kaydeethree | ooh, they finally added a "compress uncompressed movies" keybind |
| 03:48.18 | Cidan | True, true, you speak the truth |
| 03:48.18 | Legorol | |Jelly|: can't you ask your guildmates about which instance they are locked to? |
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| 03:48.27 | Legorol | surely it's not that hard to remember when you last went to Karazhan |
| 03:48.31 | alestane | I know a guy whos web page has a section called "Things your English teacher told you that are WRONG." |
| 03:48.37 | Iriel | Are the PTR's back online yet? |
| 03:48.43 | Kaydeethree | negative |
| 03:48.48 | |Jelly| | Yeah but that requires asking them and then getting a response as opposed to being like "Oh wow...that 8-digit number isn't like mine" |
| 03:48.51 | Kaydeethree | 3 hours or so by hortus' estimate |
| 03:48.59 | Legorol | Iriel: wrong place to ask, the US PTR forum is that way -------> |
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| 03:49.12 | Legorol | please join the queue, it's currently up to 364 QQers |
| 03:49.34 | alestane | For instance, English grammar doesn't actually care if you end a sentence/clause with a preposition. |
| 03:49.57 | Kaydeethree | wasn't there a presidential quote that made fun of that? |
| 03:50.07 | alestane | Winston Churchill. |
| 03:50.22 | alestane | "That is a rule up with which I will not put." |
| 03:50.31 | WobWork | "I know not of what you speak"? |
| 03:50.43 | Kaydeethree | ya, that's it |
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| 03:51.36 | alestane | But the whole preposition thing is actually a holdover from the 18th century grammarians, who were mostly Latinists and had some funny ideas about English. |
| 03:51.39 | WobWork | alestane: got a link to that site? |
| 03:51.55 | alestane | Where I got the quote? I didn't get it off the internet. |
| 03:51.56 | Legorol | is anyone else worried about the fact that the "auto-enable voice chat in party" checkbox is enabled by default :) |
| 03:52.22 | cogwheel | alestane: for the record, I'm a descriptivist :P |
| 03:52.23 | WobWork | no, the one you spoke of earlier with the "What your english teacher..." section |
| 03:52.35 | WobWork | Legorol: Yes |
| 03:52.49 | alestane | cogwheel: what do you mean by that? |
| 03:52.59 | Kaydeethree | does /benchmark work in non-qa-enabled builds? |
| 03:52.59 | Kirkburn | alestane, ooh, interesting results when you look up that thing: "You can begin a sentence with “and” or “but.” There’s no reason not to. You shouldn’t begin all of your sentences with “and” or “but,” but if it sounds right, don’t fight it." |
| 03:53.01 | WobWork | I foresee a whole lot less 'flirting' on WoW after voice chat comes out |
| 03:53.03 | Legorol | it means that everyone who doesn't bother checking out their UI settings (which is the vast majority) will have voice chat turned on in party |
| 03:53.19 | WobWork | OMG UR A GUY |
| 03:53.30 | cogwheel | alestane: I believe grammar should /describe/ how a language is used rather than /prescribe/ how it should be |
| 03:53.39 | alestane | Ah. |
| 03:53.50 | WobWork | Yes, well with English, you can't fight that =) |
| 03:53.57 | Legorol | not to mention that the checkbox i spoke of is actually hidden at the top of the new Chat channels window, as opposed to being a setting in either Interface Options or the Sound/Voice Options |
| 03:54.01 | Kirkburn | 3. You can split an infinitive. |
| 03:54.02 | alestane | The folks who came up with split infinitives and prepostiions with trailing nouns were not. |
| 03:54.04 | cogwheel | But I also believe in encouraging people to use what is currently described :) |
| 03:54.48 | Kaydeethree | oh, sweet... "BINDING_NAME_TARGETTALKER = "Target current talker"; |
| 03:54.54 | Kaydeethree | I'm now sold on in-game voip |
| 03:54.56 | Cidan | I believe that language is ever changing thing, a beast which can not be contained by rules. |
| 03:55.18 | cogwheel | wtb "talker" unitid |
| 03:55.20 | Legorol | Kaydeethree: when someone speaks, their name appears in a tiny text-box like thing at the bottom of your screen |
| 03:55.24 | Cidan | Guidelines, maybe. |
| 03:55.26 | Legorol | you can click that to target the person who spoke |
| 03:55.36 | Legorol | i guess keybinding is a natural progression from there |
| 03:55.45 | WobWork | People should learn to not split infinitives =) |
| 03:55.53 | Legorol | and we shall see "HEAL MEH!" yells on voice chat about |
| 03:56.20 | WobWork | Iriel: Porn Vol 1, Porn Vol 2... ? |
| 03:56.26 | cogwheel | Iriel: I have a similarly unlabeled stack of CDRs i need to go through at some point |
| 03:56.44 | Iriel | WobWork: Unlikely 8-) |
| 03:56.46 | WobWork | cogwheel: oh I have those. They're all various burnt copies of linux or windows or driver CDs |
| 03:56.53 | cogwheel | yep. |
| 03:56.57 | WobWork | Cause each time I install something I end up reburning an image |
| 03:57.05 | Legorol | Iriel: what's even worse is a large stack of labelled stuff on my desk that i wish i bothered to organise so i actually can find stuff |
| 03:57.09 | WobWork | cause I can't be bothered going through the unlablled =P |
| 03:57.39 | cogwheel | i've got a vista beta, office 2k7 beta, directx sdk, visual studio service pack, various linuces, and some ... umm... other stuff |
| 03:57.43 | cogwheel | (not porn) |
| 03:57.52 | Cidan | Sometimes using split infinitives sounds stupid |
| 03:57.53 | |Jelly| | Lies. |
| 03:57.55 | Legorol | no porn? |
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| 03:57.57 | Cidan | othertimes, I think it's okay. |
| 03:58.12 | Legorol | cogwheel: has anyone ever explained to you what the intarwebz are *actually* for? |
| 03:58.17 | Legorol | apart from writing addons |
| 03:58.22 | cogwheel | Legorol: wife had a fucked up dad who was addicted to porn... I'm a respectful husband :P |
| 03:58.24 | Cidan | either way, time to really get going. |
| 03:58.27 | Cidan | ;D |
| 03:58.28 | Cidan | bai |
| 03:58.47 | |Jelly| | Wow Cog. Why tell the truth when you know it's just going to take the wind out of our sails? |
| 03:58.53 | Legorol | cogwheel: that can make things difficult |
| 03:58.58 | cogwheel | I value truth over many things... |
| 03:58.58 | Kaydeethree | +RATINGS_TEXT = "The text of the new improved and really really cool Korean Ratings go in this string. -Tom Thompson"; |
| 03:58.59 | |Jelly| | I mean...now I'd feel bad if I made fun of you. |
| 03:59.14 | cogwheel | haha! |
| 03:59.16 | cogwheel | don't :P |
| 03:59.27 | cogwheel | We haven't always lived together ;) |
| 03:59.37 | Legorol | don't tell me you threw it out! |
| 03:59.39 | |Jelly| | For the record, I don't have porn either. rofl |
| 03:59.43 | Legorol | that's just too painful a thought |
| 03:59.56 | cogwheel | Legorol: tbh i don't know XD |
| 04:00.13 | cogwheel | I have a bunch of discs labeled "Archives" from late 90s/early 00s |
| 04:00.29 | Legorol | 90s *sniff* those were the days *cry* |
| 04:00.35 | Legorol | i was still young back then |
| 04:00.40 | cogwheel | yeah... those discs were done on a 4x burner... |
| 04:00.44 | Kaydeethree | what the hell... there's a "FolderPicker" frame now? |
| 04:00.50 | Legorol | only for Mac |
| 04:01.04 | Kaydeethree | ya, but I'm wondering how they're not going to break the sandbox with that |
| 04:01.06 | Legorol | to select the folder where you want to save the recorded movie, i beleive |
| 04:01.14 | cogwheel | Kaydeethree: GlueXML imo |
| 04:01.16 | Legorol | but i'm only surmising that from having glanced through the latest patch |
| 04:01.27 | Legorol | cogwheel: no it's in framexml |
| 04:01.32 | cogwheel | O.o |
| 04:01.34 | Kaydeethree | ya, that's all I'm doing right now too |
| 04:01.34 | Legorol | but i was wondering the same thing as kadrahil |
| 04:01.39 | Kaydeethree | http://spyglass-server.com/wowints/0.2.0.7125-7153.diff |
| 04:01.45 | Legorol | s/kadrahil/Kaydeethree/ |
| 04:03.33 | Legorol | it seems to be a stub of some sort |
| 04:03.42 | Legorol | it looks incomplete, and is not even used anywhere in framexml |
| 04:04.16 | Legorol | have a good evening all |
| 04:04.43 | cogwheel | argh! 3 mountain dews in a row and the damned tab broke before opening it... |
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| 04:05.18 | cogwheel | ... |
| 04:05.42 | Kaydeethree | ooh, good idea |
| 04:09.41 | Nom- | http://forums.wow-europe.com/thread.html?topicId=612142840&sid=1 |
| 04:09.41 | Kirkburn | Swords flashing, our heroes dashed into action. ...... or ...... Swords, flashing our heroes, dashed into action. |
| 04:09.45 | Nom- | Anyone care to confirm/deny? :) |
| 04:10.44 | Kaydeethree | there's a door to void reaver now? |
| 04:13.11 | WobWork | Kirkburn: ? |
| 04:13.26 | Kirkburn | WobWork, the wonders of commas |
| 04:13.28 | Nom- | That's the rumour, Kaydeethree ... I'd like to get that confirmed :/ |
| 04:13.30 | WobWork | Kaydeethree: well there could be |
| 04:13.45 | WobWork | Kirkburn: I helped my Uncle Jack, off the horse? =P |
| 04:13.48 | Nom- | Kirkburn: The wonder if capitilization is better :) |
| 04:13.58 | Kirkburn | WobWork, lol |
| 04:14.11 | Kaydeethree | I don't have easy access to a rogue and I refuse to wait for the premade copy queue, so alas. I can't confirm/deny until it hits live |
| 04:14.15 | Kirkburn | You wouldn't put a comma there though >< |
| 04:14.15 | doskoi | I have a targetoftarget frame inherit SecureUnitButtonTemplate and use SecureUnitButton_OnLoad(this,"targettarget") it works, and can click frame it can target to ToT, but in Combat, it disable by event ADDON_ACTION_BLOCKED, the frame can't use Show() and Hide(), how to fix it, someone know ? |
| 04:14.20 | Nom- | Capitalization: The difference between "I helped my uncle jack off a horse" and "I helped my uncle Jack off a horse" |
| 04:14.29 | Kirkburn | Nom-, ooh, inventive |
| 04:15.16 | Kaydeethree | doskoi, you can't show or hide secure frames in combat. there's a RegisterUnitWatch command or something to that effect |
| 04:15.24 | Nom- | Kaydeethree: Priest works well, if you have one |
| 04:15.31 | Nom- | Kaydeethree: Chain Mind Vision around the whole instnace |
| 04:15.53 | alestane | Night all, I'll see yes later... |
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| 04:16.36 | doskoi | of, i think SetAplha maybe can replace show or hide . |
| 04:17.01 | WobWork | Kirkburn: Chris, where Ted had had had had had had had had had had had the teacher's approval. |
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| 04:18.24 | Kirkburn | So many hads you got disconnected by the grammar lord |
| 04:19.21 | Wobwork | yeah =( |
| 04:19.29 | Nom- | hmmm |
| 04:19.33 | Nom- | feels like lunch time |
| 04:20.04 | Kaydeethree | hm... I've been up for 9 hours or so. guess I could do lunch |
| 04:20.18 | Wobwork | Chris, where Ted had had "had," had had "had had." "Had had" had had the teacher's approval. |
| 04:20.36 | Nom- | lol |
| 04:20.45 | doskoi | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:20.46 | Nom- | GMT -0400 i guess ? |
| 04:20.54 | Nom- | I'm GMT +0800 |
| 04:21.05 | doskoi | me too |
| 04:21.07 | Kaydeethree | whatever timezone eastern time is. yah. I can never remember if we're -4 or -5 |
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| 04:23.08 | Nom- | mmm one of my collegues has got like Pie 'n Chips |
| 04:23.17 | Nom- | Definately lunch time, really hungry now :P |
| 04:24.32 | Shirik | !ap 1300 |
| 04:24.32 | ThraeBot | Shirik: Arena points from a rating of 1300 is, 2v2: 210, 3v3: 240, 5v5: 300 |
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| 04:24.43 | Shirik | !ap 1400 |
| 04:24.44 | ThraeBot | Shirik: Arena points from a rating of 1400 is, 2v2: 236, 3v3: 270, 5v5: 338 |
| 04:40.52 | art3mis | well that makes me sad |
| 04:40.58 | art3mis | new kmfdm isnt all that good |
| 04:41.29 | art3mis | i figured after ww3 and hau ruck this would be awesome but noOOOOOOOOOOOOooooo |
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| 04:43.40 | Wobwork | ne1 know wtf art3mis is on about? |
| 04:47.14 | Cairenn | no clue what he's on about, and no clue what he's on, but dayum it must be some really good stuff |
| 04:48.36 | Thunder_Child | wow...after a certian point you no longer need to sign up for betas...they just send stuff to you |
| 04:49.10 | cogwheel | whad'ya get? |
| 04:49.25 | Thunder_Child | Tabula Rasa |
| 04:49.46 | Wobwork | it's all steampunk now, isn't it? |
| 04:49.58 | Thunder_Child | i dunno, i wasnt even following |
| 04:50.02 | Thunder_Child | it |
| 04:51.47 | Wobwork | heheh |
| 04:51.48 | Wobwork | The battle system is unusual in that the main character and his allies shoot themselves in the head with a magic gun, called an evoker, to force their Persona out of their heads. |
| 04:51.57 | Wobwork | >< |
| 04:52.14 | Kaydeethree | oh, heh. they lampooned that on penny-arcade |
| 04:52.57 | art3mis | Wobwork: talking about the new kmfdm album |
| 04:53.05 | art3mis | it's pretty week |
| 04:53.30 | art3mis | almost retro 80s industrial with nothing really catchy or pounding to hook you |
| 04:57.59 | Nom- | lol @ ret pally motto |
| 04:58.07 | art3mis | "There's a 95 percent chance that this is the Grunion and a less than five percent chance that it's not," said Christopher J. Nicholson |
| 04:58.13 | Nom- | "All glory to the hypnotoad!" |
| 04:58.17 | art3mis | less than 5%? |
| 04:58.44 | art3mis | if its 95% that it is, what other factors are there that could diminish it not being it? |
| 04:58.45 | Wobwork | *clapclap* |
| 04:59.06 | art3mis | bwaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaannnnnnnnnnnn |
| 04:59.11 | Kaydeethree | wow... wonder if the forum's bugged or people are actually not posting... ptr's been quiet for a few minutes now |
| 04:59.18 | art3mis | hypnotoad isnt nearly as funny without the sound effect |
| 05:00.25 | art3mis | Hotz posted on his blog that he traded his modified iPhone for "a sweet Nissan 350Z and 3 8GB iPhones." |
| 05:00.56 | Kaydeethree | oO; |
| 05:00.58 | Nom- | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0_BD_WBg9aA |
| 05:01.28 | art3mis | http://www.local6.com/spotlight/13977777/detail.html <-- 4 eared bunny! |
| 05:01.39 | Thunder_Child | yea, saw that art3mis |
| 05:01.47 | Thunder_Child | well on someone elses blog |
| 05:01.56 | Thunder_Child | gizmodo's blog |
| 05:03.07 | art3mis | it looks like it just had it's ears cut |
| 05:04.55 | art3mis | http://www.xkcd.com/ |
| 05:05.39 | Kaydeethree | hahahah |
| 05:06.12 | art3mis | we've all been in each of those situations |
| 05:06.36 | art3mis | well the non-nerds one we just hear about after and see what got purchased |
| 05:10.34 | Cairenn | hi Esamynn |
| 05:10.46 | Esamynn | evening Cairenn |
| 05:19.23 | Garoun | hmm for warriors, do they want fastest offhand they can find like a rogue or is it damage range that matters the most? |
| 05:33.23 | cogwheel | for fury spec? |
| 05:33.33 | cogwheel | if you're arms you want 2h weapons... |
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| 05:33.44 | cogwheel | for fury, i think damage is better but i could be wrong |
| 05:34.03 | cogwheel | *than speed |
| 05:49.35 | Garoun | and yeah cog, I meant fury |
| 05:53.17 | Wobwork | anyone know if barkskin mitigates shatter? |
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| 05:55.23 | Thunder_Child | Wobwork, from grull? |
| 05:55.27 | Thunder_Child | gruul* |
| 05:56.36 | Wobwork | yeah |
| 05:57.23 | Thunder_Child | according to our druid MH, "yes" |
| 05:58.14 | Wobwork | woo |
| 05:58.15 | Wobwork | ta |
| 05:58.27 | Thunder_Child | np |
| 06:00.52 | cogwheel | interesting thread http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=1272321887 |
| 06:01.05 | cogwheel | in the sense that the op is being ripped a new one |
| 06:05.26 | Wobwork | Any Dreamless Sleep type potion will freeze a Stomp victim in mid air, preventing him from flying towards the rest of the raid. This should be used in the event of someone getting caught out of position, or a "all flung into the center" scenario. One thing to remember with this however, is that the range of Shatter includes vertical range, so a person using the sleep potion has to time it at the highest point possible to avoid people |
| 06:05.29 | Wobwork | hehe that's kinda cool |
| 06:05.33 | Wobwork | I'll so have to try that |
| 06:06.00 | Wobwork | even though it'll blow your potion cooldown |
| 06:06.25 | abug | I don't know... I think the op ripped people a new one |
| 06:06.38 | Kaydeethree | lol... |
| 06:06.43 | Kaydeethree | latest ptr build: 7.77MB |
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| 06:07.17 | Wobwork | weird |
| 06:07.23 | Wobwork | I can't seem to follow any of those forum links |
| 06:07.28 | Wobwork | it just takes me to the welcome page |
| 06:08.07 | Kaydeethree | attach a &sid=1 to the link before you hit enter |
| 06:08.15 | nevcairiel | that nerf pom/pyro thread again |
| 06:08.42 | nevcairiel | oh another PTR push |
| 06:08.47 | nevcairiel | whats up with them now |
| 06:09.04 | Kaydeethree | lots of vista-related errors in 7153 |
| 06:09.09 | Kaydeethree | downloading 7175 now |
| 06:09.49 | Wobwork | hehe |
| 06:10.07 | Wobwork | he should have put a line about "And my mother was scared, and sent me to live with my aunt and uncle..." |
| 06:10.07 | nevcairiel | i blame vista for the vista related errors =P |
| 06:11.08 | Cairenn|afk | night guys |
| 06:11.14 | |Jelly| | Good night |
| 06:11.18 | cogwheel | nn |
| 06:11.22 | Wobwork | nn |
| 06:11.28 | Wobwork | (yeah right =P) |
| 06:11.30 | |Jelly| | Lazy bastards. |
| 06:11.46 | Wobwork | well it's not like Cairenn ever actually sleeps |
| 06:11.50 | Wobwork | she just pretends to |
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| 06:14.35 | Thunder_Child | and does it badly |
| 06:17.15 | |Jelly| | ~whaleparry Thunder_Child |
| 06:17.15 | purl | ACTION uses a slightly less-huge but eminently more agile killer whale named Edwardo to parry Thunder_Child's attacks. |
| 06:17.21 | |Jelly| | CAUSE I CAN |
| 06:17.25 | Cairenn|afk | I fake it very well, thank you |
| 06:17.28 | Thunder_Child | helps if i attack first |
| 06:17.57 | Thunder_Child | Cairenn|afk....are we still talking aboutthe same thing |
| 06:18.05 | |Jelly| | I hope so. |
| 06:19.01 | krka | clad|book: no idea what you tried to ask me earlier |
| 06:19.07 | bleeter | I'd heard the same thing |
| 06:19.45 | Kaydeethree | diffs of the very latest PTR build are now up: http://spyglass-server.com/wowints current build: 7175 |
| 06:23.59 | Kaydeethree | ooh, a new "JoinPermanentChannel()" command |
| 06:24.55 | Iriel | FWIW the mac doesn't ask you where to save your movie |
| 06:25.02 | bleeter | damnit, how the fuck did I manage to lose sound :( |
| 06:25.18 | nevcairiel | new patch broke it? :) |
| 06:25.36 | Kaydeethree | working for me, 7175 |
| 06:25.49 | Iriel | Me also |
| 06:25.58 | bleeter | nevcairiel: nah, we got sound working about 12 hours ago (this is under wine) |
| 06:26.05 | bleeter | Kaydeethree: shurrup :'( |
| 06:26.18 | nevcairiel | bleeter: wasnt that latest build after that point? |
| 06:27.07 | bleeter | was there? I dunno, I'd copied my wine directory off so the experiments weren't touching my 'live', I'd decided to switch back to live, which hadn't had the original patch for this week... there's one after that? hmm. |
| 06:27.14 | bleeter | ie, I lost track of build #'s |
| 06:27.18 | Kaydeethree | 7175 happened 30 minutes ago |
| 06:27.33 | bleeter | Kaydeethree: did you revert the git hack? |
| 06:27.36 | Kaydeethree | nope |
| 06:27.36 | nevcairiel | a bluepost said its supposed to fix sound issues |
| 06:27.48 | bleeter | gee, wonder what that was a result of ;) |
| 06:28.49 | Kaydeethree | hm. a new sound codec for the mac build |
| 06:28.55 | Kaydeethree | s/sound/video/ |
| 06:29.37 | Kaydeethree | event changes too: COMSAT->VOICE |
| 06:30.32 | bleeter | reverting looks like it crashes out still |
| 06:33.21 | bleeter | re-applied, copied my Config.wtf over from live, sound's back |
| 06:43.19 | Wobwork | hurrah for public holidays |
| 06:43.29 | nevcairiel | screw you :( |
| 06:44.36 | Wobwork | You can thank APEC =P |
| 06:44.55 | Wobwork | ... omg |
| 06:44.57 | Wobwork | What happened to the Famous Five, Enid Blyton's crime-busting adolescents who entertained generations with their school holiday adventures? The question will be answered when Julian, Dick, Anne and George are reunited in middle age, along with a descendant of Timmy the dog, in a new television drama series for adults. |
| 06:45.03 | Wobwork | My childhood |
| 06:45.11 | Wobwork | my precious heirloom childhood =( |
| 06:45.25 | Wobwork | I bet Anne is fat |
| 06:45.30 | Wobwork | Dick is gay |
| 06:45.44 | nevcairiel | lol |
| 06:45.45 | nevcairiel | wtf |
| 06:45.45 | Wobwork | and Julian does Self Improvement courses |
| 06:45.58 | Wobwork | http://www.smh.com.au/news/tv--radio/five-go-adventuring-again/2007/08/29/1188067172227.html |
| 06:46.21 | Corrodias | ouch. big bills this month. i've been eating too much. |
| 06:46.57 | Corrodias | "Famous Five, Enid Blyton's crime-busting adolescents who entertained generations with their school holiday adventures" = who? |
| 06:47.11 | Iriel | You'd need to be the correct nationalities, I suspect. |
| 06:47.23 | Wobwork | yeah |
| 06:47.37 | Corrodias | was this a television show? |
| 06:47.53 | Wobwork | The Famous Five books, and Enid Blyton in general were read by people in the UK/Australia |
| 06:48.07 | Wobwork | She was a children's author |
| 06:48.08 | Corrodias | ah |
| 06:49.23 | Wobwork | Iriel: Did you ever see Five go mad in Dorset? |
| 06:49.39 | Iriel | I did not, no. |
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| 06:49.45 | Wobwork | best parody of the FF ever =) |
| 06:49.48 | Wobwork | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Five_Go_Mad_In_Dorset |
| 06:50.03 | Wobwork | If you can get a copy, it's fantastic |
| 06:50.45 | Corrodias | "At 1216 hours, Craig tapped his right foot. I recognized this as a signal used by persons wishing to engage in lewd conduct." |
| 06:51.22 | Wobwork | charming |
| 06:51.33 | Wobwork | interesting how he had the time down precisely =P |
| 06:52.01 | Wobwork | oh, it was an undercover officer |
| 06:52.19 | Corrodias | yes |
| 06:52.56 | Wobwork | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:53.05 | Wobwork | Hm, that could be a bit more 'audio' than I ever wanted =P |
| 06:53.43 | Corrodias | oh dear. |
| 06:56.20 | bleeter | well, I can confirm one thing about Wine VoIP... |
| 06:56.29 | bleeter | ... my mic's broken (don't work in Win32 either) |
| 06:56.58 | Corrodias | "At an earlier court hearing, police said a search of Drummond's Harbord home revealed indecent film of up to 3000 females, but it was unknown whether he was the person who shot the footage." |
| 06:57.12 | Corrodias | there's nothing worse than porn that is not decently filmed |
| 06:57.18 | Corrodias | what a loser! |
| 06:57.18 | bleeter | I shoulda bought that $10 mic I saw earlier today... but my mind went 'hay, I got one like that at home' |
| 06:58.26 | Corrodias | i can't find a headset i like. i want them to have the audio characteristics of my cheap sony headphones here, but none of them seem to sound as good. i just wear a headset around my neck with the microphone pointing up and my headphones on top. |
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| 06:58.33 | Corrodias | them, it, whatever |
| 06:58.43 | TC-Holding | WTB reason why windows crashes |
| 06:58.57 | bleeter | TC-Holding: steaming PoS :P |
| 06:59.33 | Thunder_Child | a possibility...especialy runing vista |
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| 07:01.23 | bleeter | as I've discovered, Vista is very touchy with unloading dlls |
| 07:01.40 | bleeter | well, as someone else told me and had it 'proved' to me.. not that I was the one who discovered it |
| 07:01.41 | cncfanatics | goood morning |
| 07:02.07 | Thunder_Child | hmm...i wonder if it was because C droped to 0 free space |
| 07:02.25 | bleeter | Thunder_Child: sounds highly likely |
| 07:02.37 | Kaydeethree | ouch... windows running out of free space is a really bad thing |
| 07:02.41 | Kaydeethree | 'course, it is for any OS... |
| 07:03.06 | Thunder_Child | meh...i dont install anything on C |
| 07:03.31 | Thunder_Child | none the less i still seemed to have used up 23.5 gb on it |
| 07:04.11 | Corrodias | i appear to have used all but 9gb of it. i don't know where it went. i think i must have downloaded something. |
| 07:05.02 | krka | get baobab or something similar to investigat |
| 07:05.12 | Thunder_Child | *sigh* i just gave it another 10gb....i swear it keeps growing on it's own |
| 07:05.13 | Corrodias | i seem to have multiple copies of ubuntu and mandrake linux isos in here |
| 07:05.14 | Corrodias | jesus |
| 07:05.32 | krka | mandrake? that is soooo 1998 |
| 07:05.39 | Corrodias | i'm sorry, mandriva |
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| 07:24.24 | batrick | 2.2 toc is 20200 correct? |
| 07:24.32 | Kaydeethree | ya |
| 07:24.38 | batrick | ty |
| 07:25.08 | batrick | I coulda sworn it was disabled, but an addon that has a version higher than the current loads ok? |
| 07:25.15 | batrick | .toc version I mean |
| 07:25.41 | Kaydeethree | works fine. I've got the 2.2 version of NECB on 2.1.3. just make sure load out-of-date's checked |
| 07:26.19 | batrick | you're Natur? I had no idea |
| 07:26.32 | batrick | o nvm |
| 07:26.33 | Kaydeethree | nope |
| 07:26.36 | batrick | i'm an idiot |
| 07:26.38 | batrick | lol! |
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| 07:39.25 | Wobwork | Kirkburn: did you see that link I posted about the Famous Five? |
| 07:40.22 | Kirkburn | nope |
| 07:41.04 | Wobwork | http://www.smh.com.au/news/tv--radio/five-go-adventuring-again/2007/08/29/1188067172227.html |
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| 07:46.35 | Kirkburn | Aha, I did see something about that |
| 07:46.43 | Kirkburn | Never read the books, or seen the series :P |
| 07:49.02 | Wobwork | fershame |
| 07:49.19 | Wobwork | where is your childhood =P |
| 07:49.36 | Wobwork | did you read -any- Blyton? |
| 07:49.40 | Kirkburn | um |
| 07:49.42 | Kirkburn | No |
| 07:49.44 | Kaydeethree | <PROTECTED> |
| 07:49.51 | Kirkburn | I read Pratchett |
| 07:49.51 | Kaydeethree | got shipped in the latest PTR push |
| 07:50.20 | Wobwork | oh, well, you're excused then |
| 07:50.31 | Wobwork | Then again, how old are you? |
| 07:51.23 | Kirkburn | 22 |
| 07:54.06 | Wobwork | okay, possibly just out of the age bracket kinda =P Aside from the fact that Blyton is british literature classic childrens =P |
| 07:54.26 | cncfanatics | who needs british literature anyway ? long live french literature |
| 07:55.18 | Wobwork | ... |
| 07:55.22 | Wobwork | but they're french =\ |
| 07:56.00 | cncfanatics | so am I |
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| 09:22.13 | bleeter | is it just me, or does PTR differ from Live when the App loses focus, insofar as sound output ceases (ie, can't tab away and then hear if one gets chewed/hit upon) |
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| 09:23.26 | sag_ich_nicht | bleeter check soundoptions |
| 09:23.48 | sag_ich_nicht | you have to enable that specificially, and the PTR client uses a different config.wtf, thus, by default, it's disabled |
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| 09:25.39 | bleeter | sag_ich_nicht: rightio, will check next time I'm in PTR (am listening to audio recording of a lecture and looking at lecture slide, thus it prompted my memory to ask the question). Thanks for the reply :) |
| 09:26.03 | bleeter | *whilst contemplating grinding a few mobs out |
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| 10:24.17 | bleeter | omfg |
| 10:24.31 | bleeter | looks like genuine testing's going on in IF PTR PvP1 realm rofl |
| 10:35.09 | bleeter | nah, was just terrain abuse crap :( |
| 10:56.11 | sag_ich_nicht | terrain abuse isn't crap |
| 10:56.13 | sag_ich_nicht | it's awesome |
| 10:56.15 | sag_ich_nicht | <3 |
| 10:57.42 | Industrial | hope they dont 'fix' the duel area bug at bank |
| 10:58.29 | sag_ich_nicht | if they "fix" that, there will be an outrage |
| 10:58.54 | sag_ich_nicht | that's not a bug, that's a feature. |
| 10:59.06 | zenzelezz | there was an outrage at the 2.0 changes, you saw how much that mattered |
| 10:59.19 | sag_ich_nicht | heh, the 2.0 changes were required |
| 10:59.38 | zenzelezz | yes, but people were outraged anyway |
| 11:00.02 | sag_ich_nicht | changing that otoh, is NOT required, at ALL |
| 11:04.32 | bleeter | sag_ich_nicht: aye, it may be awesome.. but when someone was asking for assistance testing a bug, I thought it was something genuine, just not walking on hard to reach places in IF |
| 11:04.48 | sag_ich_nicht | lol |
| 11:07.47 | bleeter | with the amount of time 2.2's taking, I'd suspect 2.3 won't be that far behind once 2.2 is released |
| 11:08.50 | sag_ich_nicht | yes |
| 11:08.51 | bleeter | and given the starting position of premades, I'd almost guess that 2.3's live internally at blizz, just not publically available. That's to say, the content's merely turned off on the public builds |
| 11:10.51 | bleeter | sag_ich_nicht: thanks for the audio tip, btw, worked fine :) |
| 11:12.45 | bleeter | hmm, I'd say it's a bug though - it's not configured to be what prevous behaviour was. |
| 11:12.50 | bleeter | thoughts? |
| 11:15.18 | Industrial | hmm I wonder |
| 11:15.25 | Industrial | would it be hard rewriting the chatframe? |
| 11:15.53 | amro | ChatFrame.lua is your first stop :) |
| 11:16.03 | zenzelezz | well, what would you want to change? |
| 11:16.12 | Industrial | I have idChat, so I know something of it |
| 11:16.21 | Industrial | mainly the chatframe itself, not its contents |
| 11:16.33 | bleeter | slight tangental to that, I seem to recall slouken saying quite some time ago that he wasn't going to look at re-writing the chat until 3.0. Was any comment made on that @ BlizzCon? |
| 11:16.36 | zenzelezz | you mean de-uglify it? |
| 11:16.43 | Industrial | yes |
| 11:16.44 | zenzelezz | I've had that idea myself |
| 11:17.01 | zenzelezz | really want to try to hack it (or recreate it) to look and behave like Anarchy Online's |
| 11:17.06 | Industrial | make it pretty, make it collapsible, etc |
| 11:17.12 | Industrial | yes! |
| 11:17.47 | Industrial | with the editbox inside the chatframe, the chatframe moving up to make space when you press enter |
| 11:17.54 | Industrial | stuff like that |
| 11:18.06 | zenzelezz | yeah |
| 11:18.24 | zenzelezz | haha |
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| 11:18.32 | zenzelezz | I always wondered why those were so close together |
| 11:19.07 | amro | can you invite people you've ignored? and vice versa? |
| 11:19.22 | bleeter | amro: you can misclick invite/ignore ;) |
| 11:19.31 | bleeter | poor UI to have them so close |
| 11:19.48 | amro | I'm aware, just wondering :) |
| 11:21.32 | bleeter | personally, I'd just switch Cancel/Ignore around |
| 11:23.11 | zenzelezz | if not, at least add a confirmation dialog to the "Ignore" command |
| 11:24.18 | bleeter | well, that'd be adding some UI. Whereas just re-ordering *should* be a simple change in code. |
| 11:24.23 | amro | hm, realmlist says I have 3 chars on Cenarion Circle when I don't have any |
| 11:28.02 | bleeter | realmlist seems to lag for me, by like.. ages. |
| 11:28.12 | amro | if I don't find an interesting realm soon I'm going to reactivate my eu account. why are us realms so lame? |
| 11:28.25 | bleeter | PTR's worse, realmlist there shows I have no toons on PvP1, but I did my first copies there. |
| 11:29.08 | bleeter | but, if you want to see real lame, hop on to an Oceanic between 4 and 8PM Sydney time... makes me want to hand in my passport :) |
| 11:29.19 | zenzelezz | I picked my realm just from the name when I rerolled EU... was a lucky choice it turned out |
| 11:29.40 | amro | all oceanic servers are full or locked |
| 11:29.52 | amro | I was ona player-designated oceanic server once |
| 11:30.05 | bleeter | ah, the old khaz'goroth? |
| 11:30.10 | amro | nope, ursin |
| 11:30.24 | bleeter | must be a new one ;) |
| 11:30.56 | amro | I had a 38 there. then one day I logged on, guild was dead, friendlist all grey |
| 11:30.57 | bleeter | or one they closed down.. I avoid oceanics like the plague |
| 11:31.11 | zenzelezz | servers or people? ;-p |
| 11:31.14 | bleeter | drop by occasionally to catch up with old guildies |
| 11:31.55 | bleeter | harass the natives, test Auc5 with different data set... but yerk... it's like every 13 y/o in Australia is on an Oceanic realm |
| 11:31.56 | zenzelezz | I actually met an Aussie girl on my first char, US server... cutes accent ever o_O She was quite popular on Ventrilo |
| 11:32.08 | zenzelezz | *cutest |
| 11:32.27 | amro | gah im starting to think I should have waited for eu to come out instead of grabbing us |
| 11:32.27 | bleeter | couple of ladies in my guild have complemented me on my accent... and it's not that broad at all =) |
| 11:32.48 | bleeter | the latencies would be shocking, though |
| 11:33.03 | zenzelezz | hm, perhaps |
| 11:33.18 | zenzelezz | I had ~300-500 usually from Norway to US-Arthas, not sure where in the US that's located |
| 11:33.30 | amro | yeah, they suck. I know someone who switched from eu to us because of that |
| 11:33.33 | bleeter | I get that from AU to US |
| 11:33.47 | bleeter | so it'd be somewhere like 750-1000 to EU |
| 11:33.58 | zenzelezz | ouch :-/ |
| 11:34.49 | Industrial | MMO always has alot higher pings then FPS :( |
| 11:35.01 | Industrial | I get 100 flat to US eastcoast from the netherlands in FPS |
| 11:35.03 | zenzelezz | weird, isn't it |
| 11:36.23 | bleeter | FPS generally don't require the constant heavy number chrunching across the vendor's infrastructure |
| 11:36.38 | bleeter | as a very rough and vague statement ;) |
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| 11:50.43 | amro | what is the eu login server address? could someone look it up in their realmlist.wtf? |
| 11:51.51 | bleeter | <PROTECTED> |
| 11:51.57 | bleeter | at a guess, returns a bunch of IPs |
| 11:52.15 | zenzelezz | that is what mine says |
| 11:52.31 | amro | going to try logging in with a enUS client |
| 11:55.16 | amro | login works! but I have to reactivate the account to try it ingame |
| 11:58.16 | amro | okay apparently it does, this is neat. all you have to do is change 2 characters in realmlist.wtf :D |
| 11:59.44 | zenzelezz | hm, then I guess it would work the other way around too? |
| 11:59.49 | sag_ich_nicht | amro |
| 11:59.55 | sag_ich_nicht | get your ass on dark iron |
| 11:59.57 | sag_ich_nicht | if you play US :O |
| 12:00.20 | sag_ich_nicht | alliance if like penny arcade more, horde if you like PvP more :P |
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| 12:02.28 | amro | sag_ich_nicht: had a char there I deleted 30minutes ago. I don't like alliance and horde are outnumbered 100:1 |
| 12:02.35 | sag_ich_nicht | lol |
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| 12:06.04 | amro | Game Time Expires: 14 August 05 21:52 CEST |
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| 12:07.32 | JoshBorke | lua> 677/2 |
| 12:07.32 | cladbot | JoshBorke: 338.5 |
| 12:07.44 | JoshBorke | ha! my configuration code is still larger than my entire mod |
| 12:12.52 | batrick | is there a reason there is no edit function for: http://www.wowwiki.com/API_date ? |
| 12:13.36 | JoshBorke | i have an edit option |
| 12:13.43 | batrick | says in the top right that you can use os.date instead of date(), which isn't true. i was going to to correct it but I can't see how to edit it |
| 12:13.56 | Industrial | Wobin_: ping |
| 12:14.27 | clad|book | i can edit it. |
| 12:15.09 | batrick | well I found the edit this page tab at the top, but I don't see how to edit the blue box at the top right containing the bad info |
| 12:15.33 | clad|book | its the first line |
| 12:15.35 | clad|book | its an included template |
| 12:15.41 | clad|book | you'd want to remove the template call |
| 12:16.30 | batrick | i'm worried I'll end up breaking something but I'll go ahead and do it |
| 12:16.51 | JoshBorke | do you sleep clad? geeze :-P |
| 12:17.48 | clad|book | batrick: there's nothingto break.. that line is added by the template on the first line |
| 12:17.51 | clad|book | JoshBorke: i go to bed, then i wake up |
| 12:17.55 | clad|book | its a novel concept :P |
| 12:18.10 | amro | lol |
| 12:21.03 | Wobin_ | Industrial: yo |
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| 12:33.04 | Industrial | Wobin: what does splut do? |
| 12:33.07 | Industrial | or what will it do |
| 12:33.08 | Industrial | :d |
| 12:33.23 | JoshBorke | Industrial: it's a sprocket reincarnation that he'll never write |
| 12:33.49 | Industrial | ok |
| 12:35.47 | zenzelezz | In quiet contemplation, zenzelezz mourns the death of Sprocket. |
| 12:55.50 | Rallion | Insane Shit of the Day: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/20227400/site/newsweek/ |
| 12:56.09 | Rallion | In one of history's more absurd acts of totalitarianism, China has banned Buddhist monks in Tibet from reincarnating without government permission. According to a statement issued by the State Administration for Religious Affairs, the law, which goes into effect next month and strictly stipulates the procedures by which one is to reincarnate, is "an important move to institutionalize management of |
| 12:56.10 | Rallion | reincarnation." |
| 12:57.22 | sag_ich_nicht | god |
| 12:57.53 | JoshBorke | no, reincarnation |
| 12:57.58 | sag_ich_nicht | you don't need to write a sprocket reincarnation, you can fix the old sprocket... the headers in 2.0 have some sections specificially written so someone could fix up the old sprocket |
| 12:58.39 | Industrial | -> school bbl |
| 12:58.55 | sag_ich_nicht | Iriel knows more about it than i, and clad|book probably too |
| 13:09.50 | zenzelezz | didn't Iriel write those things, secure pie stuff or something |
| 13:10.46 | JoshBorke | yes, i'm pretty sure it was specifically for sprocket too |
| 13:11.19 | zenzelezz | I do recall talk of this; shame it never happened :-| |
| 13:11.56 | zenzelezz | if I wasn't clueless about secure code I'd have tried to fix Sprocket myself |
| 13:11.56 | sag_ich_nicht | just shaddup and fix it up already, i'm only a tester D: |
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| 13:44.27 | alestane | So someone on the forum just brought up an interesting point. |
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| 13:45.13 | alestane | s/he has a macro: #showtooltip Cold Snap\n/stopcasting\n/cast Cold Snap |
| 13:45.38 | alestane | And it doesn't work because she's carrying the epic wand, 'Cold Snap', around. |
| 13:45.49 | clad|book | lol |
| 13:45.58 | alestane | It keeps trying to use the wand. |
| 13:46.45 | Lopeppeppy | Three cheers for duplication of effort, zero cheers for frustration. |
| 13:46.53 | alestane | I suspect the only real solution is going to be for Bliz to rename the item. |
| 13:47.02 | alestane | Lopeppeppy: ? |
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| 13:48.01 | Lopeppeppy | Three cheers for the fact that Blizzard duplicated themselves effortlessly. Zero cheers for the fact that it's causing frustration with the macro. |
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| 13:49.10 | alestane | Yeah, I'm thinking it was sort of a slip-up. |
| 13:52.06 | Lopeppeppy | I gave myself a startle yesterday when I logged into the Test Realm without paying attention, thinking I was logging into my regular game.... downloaded an update and I was dancin' in the aisles.... booo, it was just Test. |
| 13:52.08 | [dRaCo] | use for items, cast for spells. no problem, easy to code. |
| 13:53.18 | alestane | <PROTECTED> |
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| 13:55.35 | Lin | heya! |
| 13:56.15 | alestane | I already outlined two solutions: 1) no item names that duplicate spell names; or, 2) give spells preference because we can macro items by ID in case of a conflict. |
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| 13:56.40 | alestane | Of course, it might have changed on the PTR but since all the code went API-side I can't check it. |
| 13:56.49 | zenzelezz | doesn't Cold Snap (the spell) have a rank? |
| 13:57.19 | alestane | I don't believe it does, it's a talent spell and all it does is finish your other frost cooldowns. |
| 13:57.38 | alestane | So there' sno real room for leveling it up. |
| 13:58.33 | zenzelezz | I've little experience with cast macros, I don't suppose "/cast Cold Snap ()" could work? |
| 13:59.17 | alestane | Maybe. |
| 14:00.26 | dieck | did you try /cast Cold Snap (Rank X)? (does that special ability have ranks?) |
| 14:00.37 | zenzelezz | I just asked that |
| 14:00.46 | alestane | There is only one rank of Cold Snap, just checked. |
| 14:00.52 | dieck | sry, overread that :) |
| 14:01.53 | alestane | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:03.18 | ts|skrom | ping cogwheel |
| 14:03.41 | dieck | hm, wowhead lists cold snap as ITEM lvl 70, but char lvl 60 item from Azuregos? |
| 14:04.16 | alestane | Still not something I can pick up to test. |
| 14:05.17 | sag_ich_nicht | geez |
| 14:05.41 | sag_ich_nicht | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:06.46 | zenzelezz | either read what we said or stop trolling |
| 14:08.07 | alestane | They say they tried that solution, s_i_n |
| 14:08.30 | sag_ich_nicht | just call me sin :P |
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| 14:08.58 | sag_ich_nicht | also, Cold Snap has no rank |
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| 14:09.08 | zenzelezz | which we also said |
| 14:09.19 | alestane | Right, but shouldn't () try to cast the highest (only) rank available? |
| 14:09.37 | zenzelezz | think so, it's at least worth trying |
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| 14:20.58 | batrick | cold snap does have a rank |
| 14:21.05 | batrick | all spells do |
| 14:21.13 | zenzelezz | not displayed |
| 14:21.27 | alestane | No text under the spell name at all? |
| 14:21.52 | zenzelezz | I can't say for Cold Snap, but I know my Concussion Blow (also from talents) says nothing below the name |
| 14:21.56 | zenzelezz | just a name |
| 14:22.06 | batrick | the tooltip won't display it |
| 14:22.09 | zenzelezz | also Last Stand |
| 14:22.11 | alestane | I know some spells that appear not to have a rank still have some text that will be returned as the rank (Summon Imp is rank Summon) |
| 14:22.13 | batrick | try putting in any macro |
| 14:22.16 | zenzelezz | I'm looking at spell book |
| 14:22.22 | batrick | #showtooltip Cold Snap(Rank 1) |
| 14:22.40 | batrick | which may not work if you're a mage, use a spell that is similar to cold snap |
| 14:22.45 | batrick | you're not* |
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| 14:32.42 | batrick | good morning shirik |
| 14:32.49 | Shirik | morning :) |
| 14:33.18 | art3mis | http://www.graphic-design-forum.com/photography/4779-images-changed-world.html |
| 14:37.15 | Josh_Borke | ~lart Shirik |
| 14:37.15 | purl | slams Shirik against a large cement Tux |
| 14:37.47 | alestane | Still having issues with Wine? |
| 14:38.10 | batrick | just add cheese to wine |
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| 14:40.37 | art3mis | hehe with all the whining about the ptr bugs it should get itself an H |
| 14:41.17 | art3mis | home$whine /programs/warcraft/WoW.exe |
| 14:41.21 | art3mis | wahhhhhhhhhhhh |
| 14:41.26 | art3mis | Segmentation Fault. |
| 14:46.34 | batrick | art3mis: $cheese --type=swiss | whine /programs/warcraft/WoW.exe |
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| 14:52.07 | art3mis | oh right! |
| 14:53.10 | Shirik | you have to pipe it cheese? o.o |
| 14:54.04 | Josh_Borke | ~botmail for Shirik: CTL/ACE RDX KTHXBAI |
| 14:54.23 | zenzelezz | ooh, both at the same time? He really is going to kill you |
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| 15:00.29 | Josh_Borke | sioraiocht: morning |
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| 15:32.33 | alestane | Hurray for syntactic sugar. |
| 15:32.38 | clad|book | lol |
| 15:34.30 | alestane | The concept that "function BLAH (some, parameters) ... end" constitutes exectuable steps that are RUN, not COMPILED, during your addon's loading can be kind of brain-breaking just because it looks so much like standard C-like function definitions. |
| 15:35.06 | alestane | I remember when I was learning C, I had only known Pascal before that and I was studying C going, "Okay, functions, but how do I declare a procedure?" |
| 15:35.34 | clad|book | :P |
| 15:35.42 | Legorol | alestane: i don't know where you got that from, but that concept you quoted is incorrect |
| 15:35.57 | Legorol | it is true that the executable steps inside that block are compiled, but they are not executed at load time |
| 15:36.11 | Legorol | also, a closure is created |
| 15:36.22 | alestane | Well, I have over-simplified. |
| 15:36.40 | Legorol | or are you referring to the assignment to BLAH? |
| 15:36.46 | Legorol | because you are right, that part is executed |
| 15:37.35 | alestane | the function definition itself is executed (a 'closure' is created as you say) when the .lua file is executed. |
| 15:38.14 | alestane | But in, say, C, a function definition is processed by the compiler, but it's not really executed. |
| 15:38.21 | alestane | Not at complie time. |
| 15:38.25 | alestane | compile* |
| 15:40.15 | alestane | But in Lua, 'function declarations' aren't just descriptions of the functions, they're active statements that are processed by the Lua environment as they're encountered, and can be freely intermingled with other executeable statements such as function calls. |
| 15:41.57 | alestane | A C file, by contrast, consists entirely of declarations. Executable code is restricted to the contents of function declarations, and none of your code is run while it's being compiled; an object file with a defined entry point is created instead, which can be invoked only from outside the comiling code, after it has completed. |
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| 15:42.39 | ts|skrom | Improved Power Word: Shield: scales with +healing? |
| 15:42.55 | alestane | I don't know, does it? |
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| 15:45.40 | alestane | ell, it makes more sense anyway than what I originally thought you meant, which was Reflective Shield. |
| 15:46.26 | ts|skrom | oh hehe, well of course that scales but not the same way, the more you can absorb (via +healing) the more you can reflect over time |
| 15:46.34 | amro_ | Industrial: ping |
| 15:47.24 | Polarina | bleeter: You didn't only fix the Wine sound issue in WoW PTR, but also in EVE Online. :) |
| 15:47.43 | ts|skrom | some talents are coded to apply their +%'s before +healing some after and given that PW:S only received it's +healing bonus relatively recently it'd be a toss up which way this goes. Checking priest forum now. |
| 15:48.03 | amro | Polarina: voice chat works in EVE or just avoids disabling sound? |
| 15:48.40 | Polarina | amro: It logs in with sounds, more I don't know. |
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| 16:21.56 | Industrial | amro: pong |
| 16:23.13 | Nom- | Hydross, Lurker, Tidewalker all dead |
| 16:23.14 | Nom- | 4 hours |
| 16:23.30 | Industrial | lulz lifeless |
| 16:23.39 | Nom- | so awesome :D |
| 16:23.42 | Industrial | (<3 ;D) |
| 16:23.55 | alestane | I have no idea what you people are talking about. |
| 16:24.04 | Kalroth | Nom-: Where's Karathress and Leo?! |
| 16:24.10 | Industrial | .. world of warcraft ? |
| 16:24.19 | Nom- | Sunday, Kalroth :) |
| 16:24.23 | Nom- | We went Tidewalker first |
| 16:24.23 | Kalroth | :P |
| 16:24.44 | Nom- | Tomorrow we're going to kill lootreaver, and the T4 dungeons |
| 16:24.47 | alestane | SSC? I haven't done any TBC raiding besides Kara. |
| 16:24.50 | Industrial | alestane: his group defeated some bosses in an apparently noteworthy short amount of time, so I called him lifeless (for fun). |
| 16:25.06 | Nom- | Yes, SSC alestane |
| 16:25.26 | Nom- | It's probably not that quick actually Industrial |
| 16:25.55 | Nom- | But it's not a bad effort... 1-shot hydross, 2-shot lurker (we were being silly) and 3rd try on Tidewalker |
| 16:26.05 | Industrial | doesnt matter :3 |
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| 16:27.12 | Nom- | Yup, Loot Reaver and Gruul/Magtheridon tomorrow |
| 16:27.14 | Nom- | Easy street |
| 16:27.15 | amro | wtf |
| 16:27.23 | amro | 4 dots and 2 people pounding on me |
| 16:27.29 | amro | fear lasts full duration |
| 16:27.31 | Wobin | http://meghanohara.org/wordpress/ |
| 16:27.31 | amro | twice |
| 16:27.33 | amro | some luck |
| 16:27.51 | Industrial | amro: pong |
| 16:28.12 | amro | Industrial: pm |
| 16:28.59 | Nom- | We're actually getting to the point now where we're considering not killing Gruul any more |
| 16:29.07 | Nom- | We kill High King in like 4 minutes |
| 16:29.16 | Nom- | Our rogues do > 1000 dps :D |
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| 16:36.34 | Nom- | oh well |
| 16:36.41 | Nom- | must sleep, work in a few hours :( |
| 16:36.47 | Lysistrata | cu |
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| 17:10.27 | Valaron|Work | Bah.. this week is going SOOOO slow. :( |
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| 17:16.25 | alestane | Delta sheets have GOT ot be the most boring part of this job yet. |
| 17:17.22 | |Jelly| | Morning |
| 17:17.47 | Shirik | morning |
| 17:17.55 | Lopeppeppy | Afternoon. Just to be contrary. :P |
| 17:18.09 | Shirik | ~ugt |
| 17:18.10 | purl | somebody said ugt was Universal Greeting Time. Created in #mipslinux, it is a rule that states that whenever somebody enters an IRC channel it is always morning, and it is always late when the person leaves. The local time of any other people in the channel, including the greeter, is irrelevant. http://www.total-knowledge.com/~ilya/mips/ugt.html |
| 17:18.17 | Shirik | ~lart Lopeppeppy |
| 17:18.17 | purl | hits Lopeppeppy with an anvil and laughs with a contralto voice ... Haha Ha HA Ha |
| 17:18.18 | Cairenn | hi |
| 17:18.31 | Lopeppeppy | I love you too, Shirik. |
| 17:18.42 | |Jelly| | I see. No love. |
| 17:19.00 | Lopeppeppy | My cat done left me and my dog has a flat tire. *sniff* |
| 17:19.10 | Shirik | ... huh? |
| 17:19.22 | Cairenn | *cue country guitar twang* |
| 17:19.27 | alestane | Do most of the people here just leave their computers on full-time? I see people announce that they're going to some other place, or going to sleep, and they don't log off, they just go AFK. |
| 17:19.35 | |Jelly| | I *am* from Texas. /wrist |
| 17:19.38 | Cairenn | alestane: yup, pretty much |
| 17:19.54 | zenzelezz | why would you turn off your computer? o_O |
| 17:20.00 | |Jelly| | My computer can turn off? |
| 17:20.09 | alestane | Power/heat conservation? |
| 17:20.09 | |Jelly| | *remembers the STOP error I woke up to* /sigh |
| 17:20.41 | Shirik | alestane: what is this "on" ? |
| 17:20.51 | Lopeppeppy | Sometimes, alestane, the power/heat ratio can be proved out, particularly if you turn down your home thermostat and use candles. :P |
| 17:20.53 | Shirik | Is that like when you take off the |AFK on your name? |
| 17:21.07 | alestane | I mean, I'll leave it on if I'm downloading something or whatever... |
| 17:21.50 | |Jelly| | Gah. I hate skinner. |
| 17:22.09 | Shirik | I'm still confused by this "on" concept |
| 17:22.10 | Lopeppeppy | I came to dislike as well, |Jelly|. |
| 17:22.23 | |Jelly| | <3 PEPPY! :P |
| 17:22.30 | alestane | Like last night I started downloading those OSX dev tools AnduinLothar was mentioning, so this morning I run the install, turn the box off and go to work. |
| 17:22.35 | |Jelly| | Oh and Shirik, yes...you do need that tool. |
| 17:22.43 | Shirik | "turn the box off" stop making up words! |
| 17:22.51 | |Jelly| | The hell is he talking about? OFF? |
| 17:23.03 | |Jelly| | My computer has two states: On and Rebooting |
| 17:23.14 | Shirik | mine has two also |
| 17:23.23 | |Jelly| | On and On? |
| 17:23.24 | Lopeppeppy | Mine has three. On, Reboot, and Doorstop. |
| 17:23.26 | Shirik | "Doing what I told it to do" and "Doing what I told it to do while yelling at me that I need to restart" |
| 17:23.36 | |Jelly| | haha |
| 17:24.15 | Cairenn | Lopeppeppy: or window-creation mode |
| 17:24.35 | Lopeppeppy | Cairenn, is that where I toss it through the wall because I'm peeved? |
| 17:24.39 | Cairenn | yep |
| 17:24.42 | Shirik | haha |
| 17:24.57 | Lopeppeppy | Yeah, I've never gotten that bad, but I can see it being a 4th mode. |
| 17:24.59 | alestane | Okay, our other computer is always on, but it has no monitor or keyboard of its own and exists mostly to serve music and vidoe files to the other two. |
| 17:25.05 | Cairenn | I've gotten close |
| 17:25.08 | |Jelly| | Hey Shirik. How's Vista working out for you? |
| 17:25.17 | Cidan | HE LOVES IT |
| 17:25.22 | Cidan | HE THINKS ITS BETTER THAN CATS |
| 17:25.28 | Cidan | HE COULD USE IT AGAIN AND AGAIN |
| 17:25.32 | Lopeppeppy | HE'S BEEN MIND CONTROLLED |
| 17:25.33 | Shirik | Actually it's not bad, and I did leave UAC on |
| 17:25.45 | Cidan | a thousand internets to whoever knows where that is from |
| 17:25.48 | Shirik | It's actually gotten me to re-evaluate some of my programming practices |
| 17:25.59 | Shirik | and also taught me how to update my programs to Vista :) |
| 17:26.05 | Cidan | Shirik, you mean like not using the reg? :D:D:D:D:D:D |
| 17:26.09 | alestane | Cats furry things that look at you expectantly when you're standing my the can-opner, or the musical? |
| 17:26.12 | Shirik | I'm still using the registry hun |
| 17:26.14 | Shirik | I have to |
| 17:26.18 | Cidan | No you don't, :D |
| 17:26.20 | Shirik | how else do you know where Java's installed? |
| 17:26.23 | |Jelly| | How big of a jump is it for the average user to go from XP Pro to Vista Home Premium (isn't that an oxymoron?) |
| 17:26.24 | Shirik | and what version it is? |
| 17:26.34 | alestane | Saint-N: What story? |
| 17:26.42 | Shirik | home premium, I don't know. I'm on ultimate. It's not very big really |
| 17:26.52 | Lopeppeppy | Oh, |Jelly|, no, don't jump!!!! |
| 17:26.52 | |Jelly| | Did you...pay...for it? |
| 17:26.52 | Shirik | It takes a little getting used to |
| 17:26.52 | Cidan | Why do you need to know where it's installed? |
| 17:26.57 | Shirik | but in general everything is where it needs to be |
| 17:27.01 | Saint-N | alestane: i dunno you said "so i turned off my computer and went towork. i assumed that there was gonna be something funny after this regarding your new programs |
| 17:27.04 | Shirik | Cidan: How do you create a process without knowing where it is? |
| 17:27.19 | Shirik | exactly. |
| 17:27.21 | Saint-N | shirik: blindly run it ;P |
| 17:27.30 | Shirik | So a C++ program can execute a Java program |
| 17:27.30 | Saint-N | if its in path and installed itll run ;) |
| 17:27.41 | alestane | Saint-N: Apparently "turned off my computer" was the punchline, and I didn't even realize it. |
| 17:27.49 | Saint-N | if it doesnt run throw a "install java asshole" error ;P |
| 17:28.00 | Saint-N | simple huh? |
| 17:28.00 | Cidan | Oh, right, you have to contain it in C++ to make it work |
| 17:28.08 | |Jelly| | By the way Peppy. Your rant on ImageShack. /sigh Where would I be without you? <3 Tinypic to the face. |
| 17:28.18 | Shirik | Well unless I want my users to be having to go to the command line and type java -jar /some/path/to/jar/file |
| 17:28.23 | Cidan | I can understand reading it, I suppose. But you still don't have to write it. |
| 17:28.26 | Shirik | which, most don't know what that even means |
| 17:28.29 | alestane | In my first experience with Vista, I found that many things were in different places than I expected them to be in. Those places were not necessarily BAD places, but they were not the places I expected. |
| 17:28.30 | Shirik | creating an EXE is nicer :) |
| 17:28.32 | Lopeppeppy | I ranted on ImageShack? |
| 17:28.42 | Shirik | Cidan: I never wrote to the registry except in my installer :) |
| 17:28.42 | |Jelly| | Didn't you? |
| 17:28.48 | Saint-N | shirik: runme.bat ;P |
| 17:28.51 | Shirik | though I'm working on avoiding that |
| 17:28.53 | Cidan | And you shouldn't need to, :D |
| 17:29.03 | Saint-N | and a custom folder for java apps |
| 17:29.07 | |Jelly| | I thought it was you -- it was like a million years ago in a post on the forums. |
| 17:29.07 | Cidan | I dunno, I'm bigged on self contained |
| 17:29.14 | Saint-N | so when your ealize that java is the spawn of satan it's easier to remove ;P |
| 17:29.24 | Cidan | everything in either home, or the directory the executable is in |
| 17:29.26 | Lopeppeppy | |Jelly| -- I have no clear recollection of such. I didn't inhale. I dunno. :) |
| 17:29.33 | Shirik | Saint-N: Java isn't bad. Personally, I dislike it in favor of other languages |
| 17:29.39 | Shirik | but there's a tool for every job |
| 17:29.40 | |Jelly| | It doesn't matter really, Tinypic > Imageshack by a lot and yay. |
| 17:29.42 | Shirik | Java's the tool for this job., |
| 17:29.51 | Saint-N | no you're the tool! |
| 17:29.53 | Saint-N | ;) |
| 17:30.00 | Shirik | No, I'm the tool-ee |
| 17:30.06 | Saint-N | i dont actually car4e, im just being disagreeable for no raison ;P |
| 17:30.11 | Cidan | I want to get into QT, the interface is much nicer than Swing |
| 17:30.17 | Shirik | QT is fun |
| 17:30.22 | Saint-N | the big brain am winning! |
| 17:30.27 | Shirik | but you have to admit just about everyone has java |
| 17:30.39 | Shirik | using QT means either a bigger executable or packaging libraries |
| 17:30.42 | |Jelly| | Must. Disable. Skinner. |
| 17:30.46 | Saint-N | everyone had bonzai buddy too, that didnt make it a good thing ;P |
| 17:30.51 | Cidan | HAH |
| 17:30.51 | Shirik | but I do like QT myself |
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| 17:31.10 | Cidan | You don't have to install QT to use a QT enabled app though. :P |
| 17:31.24 | Shirik | no but you need the runtime libraries |
| 17:31.27 | Shirik | which could be static |
| 17:31.31 | Shirik | but they still have to be somewhere |
| 17:31.39 | Cidan | self contained, not a big issue |
| 17:31.47 | Shirik | bigger executable :) |
| 17:31.47 | Cidan | opera does it |
| 17:31.49 | Cidan | google earth does it |
| 17:31.54 | Saint-N | jesus does it |
| 17:31.57 | Shirik | what about your dialup users? |
| 17:32.02 | Saint-N | dialup? |
| 17:32.05 | Saint-N | whats that? |
| 17:32.10 | Cidan | Suck it up, really. |
| 17:32.22 | Shirik | let's say I were some average joe user |
| 17:32.26 | Shirik | I was on a 300 baud modem |
| 17:32.31 | Saint-N | if you're still on dialup at this point in time you deserve the download times ;P |
| 17:32.43 | Shirik | I see two applications that appear to do the same thing |
| 17:32.46 | Shirik | one is 1MB, one is 5MB |
| 17:32.49 | Shirik | which do I pick |
| 17:32.53 | Saint-N | pssst shirik |
| 17:32.58 | Saint-N | java isnt 1mb ;P |
| 17:33.09 | Shirik | one would assume he already has java |
| 17:33.12 | Shirik | that's not the issue here |
| 17:33.12 | Cidan | That's unrealistic. Look, you have to target your business to a wide audience, yes. But at what point to you sacrifice quality to reach them? |
| 17:33.20 | Saint-N | it is the issue |
| 17:33.21 | Cidan | The idea that you "should" do this |
| 17:33.30 | Cidan | or "should" include this |
| 17:33.35 | Saint-N | if i wanted a 1m file and i didnt have the right java thats another 25-35mb download |
| 17:33.37 | Shirik | Cidan: Then let's write everything in IA32 assembly from now on |
| 17:33.43 | Cidan | just to fit a minor -- and yes it is minor -- subset of people who MAY |
| 17:33.45 | Cidan | use your program |
| 17:33.48 | Cidan | is just silly. |
| 17:34.25 | Cidan | Shirik, what does that have to do with the price of tea in China? |
| 17:34.37 | Shirik | I vote we write a full-fledged 3d online application |
| 17:34.40 | Shirik | in assembly |
| 17:34.41 | Shirik | let's do it |
| 17:34.47 | Cidan | You're not making any sense. |
| 17:35.04 | Cidan | What is the point you are trying to convey? |
| 17:35.14 | Shirik | in fact, let's make it a bootable game, so we have direct access to everything |
| 17:35.16 | Shirik | not really sure |
| 17:35.27 | Shirik | screw directx |
| 17:35.31 | Cidan | ...o..kay? |
| 17:35.32 | Shirik | we can access the video card directly |
| 17:35.43 | Cidan | I think I'm going to go make some tea actually, fancy that. |
| 17:36.23 | *** join/#wowi-lounge Lunessa (n=Lunessa@129.7.94.34) |
| 17:36.51 | Lunessa | Afternoon! |
| 17:36.55 | Cidan | IS IT? |
| 17:36.57 | Cidan | IS IT REALLY?! |
| 17:37.02 | Lin | o rly? |
| 17:37.06 | alestane | It is here. |
| 17:37.10 | |Jelly| | Mid-day to you, Lunessa! |
| 17:37.11 | *** join/#wowi-lounge JoshBorke (n=Josh@r35h14.res.gatech.edu) |
| 17:37.11 | Lin | here too. |
| 17:37.12 | Cidan | Oh, right, here too. |
| 17:37.25 | Shirik | here too. |
| 17:37.27 | Shirik | ? |
| 17:37.29 | JoshBorke | here three |
| 17:37.30 | Shirik | oh |
| 17:37.38 | alestane | Unless you're in, say, Colorado or points west. |
| 17:37.41 | Lunessa | Should I just follow the Universal Time Convention and say "Good Monring"? |
| 17:37.44 | Shirik | yes |
| 17:37.46 | JoshBorke | ugt |
| 17:37.48 | JoshBorke | ~ugt |
| 17:37.49 | purl | methinks ugt is Universal Greeting Time. Created in #mipslinux, it is a rule that states that whenever somebody enters an IRC channel it is always morning, and it is always late when the person leaves. The local time of any other people in the channel, including the greeter, is irrelevant. http://www.total-knowledge.com/~ilya/mips/ugt.html |
| 17:38.06 | Lunessa | Good Morning! |
| 17:38.07 | zenzelezz | what's a monring? |
| 17:38.15 | JoshBorke | the time to say hello |
| 17:38.26 | |Jelly| | Best question I've asked all day: "But if it does what you want, why do you want to replace it?" |
| 17:38.48 | Lin | better convention! |
| 17:38.55 | Lin | then: morning all!! |
| 17:38.57 | Lunessa | alestane: Thanks for mentioning Colloquy - I think I much prefer it to Chatzilla. |
| 17:39.17 | alestane | How many Mac users does that make on here? |
| 17:39.26 | Lunessa | At least 4 |
| 17:39.36 | alestane | Seems like almost everyone is using either Mac or Linux... |
| 17:39.38 | JoshBorke | 23 |
| 17:39.51 | Lunessa | But, in all honesty I use anything that crunches bits. |
| 17:39.56 | |Jelly| | Windoz. 89 |
| 17:39.58 | |Jelly| | 8( |
| 17:40.06 | JoshBorke | i use BeOS |
| 17:40.24 | Lunessa | I have 4 Windows boxes, 3 Macs, and soon I'll have a linux box for fun. |
| 17:40.33 | JoshBorke | ~lart Shirik |
| 17:40.33 | purl | steals Shirik's mojo |
| 17:40.38 | Lin | The idea behind establishing this convention was to eliminate noise generated almost every time someone comes in and greets using some form of day-time based greeting, and then channel members on the other side of the globe start pointing out that it's different time of the day for them. Now, instead of spending time figuring out what time of day is it for every member of the channel, we spend time explaining newcomers benefits of UGT. |
| 17:40.42 | JoshBorke | you think i would respond to version requests honestly? :-P |
| 17:40.45 | alestane | Which is only funny because usually I expect rooms like this to be full of frothing DOS advocates...but as Jerry 'Tycho' Holkins put it, "there are men who abide still in those frozen steppes, and their banner is the penguin." |
| 17:40.53 | Lin | LOL. Doesn't changed the discussion. Just the subject. |
| 17:40.56 | Cidan | lol |
| 17:41.15 | Shirik | JoshBorke: I don't consider you someone whom would know how to change that |
| 17:41.18 | Shirik | :P |
| 17:41.23 | JoshBorke | that hurts |
| 17:41.24 | Lunessa | Penny Arcade quotes for the win. |
| 17:41.27 | Shirik | <3 |
| 17:41.28 | JoshBorke | just a little bit |
| 17:41.35 | |Jelly| | Is it sad that I would have known who "Jerry 'Tycho' Holkins" is without the nickname in there? |
| 17:41.36 | JoshBorke | i used to do that in mirc |
| 17:41.47 | alestane | Colloquy was actually the first program I found when I typed "free IRC client Mac OSX" into Google. |
| 17:41.47 | JoshBorke | <3 RAW |
| 17:42.10 | alestane | I got to see them at MIT a few years ago. |
| 17:42.28 | Lunessa | When I looked, I was pointed to something else. And it was cumbersome and crashed. Which made it very NOT Macintosh. |
| 17:42.39 | Lunessa | So I used Chatzilla as a stand in. |
| 17:43.01 | alestane | So far I've seen you, me, cladhaire, Iriel and AnduinLothar I think. |
| 17:43.06 | Cidan | God I love |
| 17:43.10 | Cidan | ScrewAttack's videos |
| 17:44.00 | Cidan | http://www.gametrailers.com/player/24269.html |
| 17:45.21 | Lunessa | I need to get my G3 up and running again. |
| 17:46.21 | alestane | My poor Wallstreet won't power on anymore. |
| 17:46.34 | Lopeppeppy | I have a pencil.... |
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| 17:47.06 | Lunessa | I ditched my old PPC powerbooks, but a friend is sending me an older G4 powerbook she no longer wants. :) |
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| 17:52.25 | alestane | I love the "Recently Closed Tabs" feature that they added to the History section n Firefox. |
| 17:52.36 | Lunessa | FireFox is love. |
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| 17:53.02 | zenzelezz | Tainted Love |
| 17:53.13 | haste | Chocolate rain |
| 17:53.23 | alestane | After several years of Netscape It's a wonderful relief to use a browser that's just a browser. |
| 17:56.16 | Lunessa | A feature-rich browser. With a few blemishes, but still very sweet. |
| 17:57.03 | JoshBorke | firefox blows |
| 17:57.11 | JoshBorke | ie7 ftw |
| 17:58.04 | Lunessa | I like Safari except for ONE feature. It doesn't display the URL for links. |
| 17:58.09 | Cairenn | fyi - 2.2 is /not/ next week |
| 17:58.13 | Lopeppeppy | For my work systems, Firefox works much better. But I do hear it can have memory-use issues. *shrug* I have to use them all to preview pages anyway. |
| 17:58.48 | Lunessa | Cairenn: Good to know, sorry you're getting pounded about it. :/ |
| 17:59.24 | Cairenn | not getting pounded about it, I just always let you guys know once I have confirmation one way or another :) |
| 17:59.34 | Lunessa | Ah. |
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| 18:01.00 | Lopeppeppy | Makes it easier to spread the word to the un-enlightened and stave off panic attacks over the weekend. |
| 18:01.12 | ts|skrom | and I'm back! |
| 18:01.26 | ts|skrom | WARNING: PHALLIC TORCHES ATTACK PLAYERS! http://www.thehoelkers.com/torch.jpg |
| 18:01.26 | Lopeppeppy | Since I'm going to be gone all weekend, it's good to pat the puppies on the head as I go off. |
| 18:01.47 | ts|skrom | that's hot |
| 18:01.56 | Lopeppeppy | You're weird. |
| 18:02.14 | ts|skrom | :D |
| 18:03.40 | Cidan | lol |
| 18:04.18 | amro | "Congratulations! You've successfully changed your password! Tales of this historic moment will be told and retold down through the generations. Way to go!" <- They should save this kind of thing for when you actually get help from a GM |
| 18:04.43 | Mr_Rabies2 | i've only had GMs be helpful personally :x |
| 18:05.02 | Lunessa | Hah. My encounters in WoW with the GM staff, save once, have been very positive and helpful. |
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| 18:06.00 | alestane | Cairenn: Whence comes this confirmation? |
| 18:06.23 | Lopeppeppy | I've even managed to help the GM, once.... they're a much maligned bunch, because their scope is narrow by intent. Much love for customer service peoples. |
| 18:06.55 | Cairenn | I have various and sundry sources |
| 18:07.40 | Lunessa | Do not meddle in the affairs of red heads, for they are subtle like a thunderstorm, sly like a fox, and dangerous like a dragon on crack. |
| 18:07.44 | alestane | Who apparently prefer to remain anonymous. |
| 18:08.11 | alestane | Microsoft Office Word is currently recovering my documents. |
| 18:09.07 | Lunessa | :D |
| 18:09.33 | alestane | I would be more pleased by this thoughtful service, had it not been Word's crashing that endangered them in the first place. |
| 18:10.07 | lolinternet | awesome |
| 18:10.15 | Mr_Rabies2 | ooh |
| 18:10.19 | Mr_Rabies2 | new build on the ptr |
| 18:10.27 | Mr_Rabies2 | any list of changes? |
| 18:10.51 | alestane | Newer than the one yesterday morning? |
| 18:11.00 | Mr_Rabies2 | i played yesterday |
| 18:11.03 | cogwheel | that was the day before yesterday |
| 18:11.09 | cogwheel | and this one is new as of last night |
| 18:11.11 | Mr_Rabies2 | 7175 is what i'm downloading |
| 18:12.07 | alestane | I heard iffy things about 7153. |
| 18:12.46 | ts|skrom | cogwheel, tried out that voice commander thing. It's pretty nifty. |
| 18:13.20 | *** topic/#wowi-lounge by Cairenn -> #wowi-lounge: Paste Code Here: http://wowi.pastey.net | 2.1 ToC: 20100 | RTFPN please | Poor is the man whole pleasures depend on the permission of another |
| 18:13.31 | *** topic/#wowi-lounge by Cairenn -> #wowi-lounge: Paste Code Here: http://wowi.pastey.net | 2.1 ToC: 20100 | RTFPN please | Poor is the man whose pleasures depend on the permission of another |
| 18:14.56 | cogwheel | Cairenn: does that mean all husbands are poor? |
| 18:15.15 | ts|skrom | naturally |
| 18:15.19 | Cairenn | cogwheel: you aren't that young, you know where the reference comes from |
| 18:15.20 | Lopeppeppy | No more than I as a wife am, Cogwheel. |
| 18:16.02 | Lunessa | Sounds Wilde-ish. |
| 18:16.57 | alestane | You can't be that poor, Peppy, you always have plenty of cookies. |
| 18:18.50 | Lopeppeppy | That I do, alestane. And a cat, and much of happy. It has been a long week, it's good to remember these things. |
| 18:19.33 | Mr_Rabies2 | holy crap |
| 18:19.38 | Mr_Rabies2 | i just hit the motherlode of doritos |
| 18:19.45 | |Jelly| | orly |
| 18:19.49 | Mr_Rabies2 | yarly |
| 18:19.58 | Mr_Rabies2 | it had about a tablespoon of the flavoring resting in it |
| 18:20.03 | Lopeppeppy | Doritos contribute to happiness. |
| 18:20.12 | Valaron|Work | Sometimes. |
| 18:20.17 | alestane | Bleah, overload. |
| 18:20.25 | Mr_Rabies2 | i'm not exaggerating, about a tablespoon |
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| 18:24.27 | Shirik | purl, diaf |
| 18:24.27 | purl | ACTION refuses to die! |
| 18:24.46 | alestane | Hrmm, second Office crash in a row. It must not like merging these document. |
| 18:25.19 | Lunessa | Ick |
| 18:26.30 | amro | ew, word processors |
| 18:26.30 | JoshBorke | ~botmail for shirik: CTL/ACE RDX KTHXBAI |
| 18:26.37 | sag_ich_nicht | lawl |
| 18:27.46 | alestane | Why is Shirik being harangued in perpetuity to ACE RDX? |
| 18:27.54 | JoshBorke | because i like to piss him off |
| 18:28.15 | JoshBorke | s/him/shirik/ |
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| 18:32.09 | |Jelly| | Is it 2.2 or 2.3 that allows you to create a UI for different resolutions? |
| 18:32.25 | sag_ich_nicht | 2.2 |
| 18:32.28 | |Jelly| | Win. |
| 18:32.29 | sag_ich_nicht | iirx |
| 18:32.32 | sag_ich_nicht | *iirc |
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| 18:33.06 | alestane | I believe they said that as of 2.2 frame positions will be saved relative to the nearest corner. |
| 18:33.25 | Lunessa | Which will ROCK. |
| 18:33.49 | abug | oh noes, which corner will it pick if it's exactly between two |
| 18:34.02 | Mr_Rabies2 | dammit |
| 18:34.02 | JoshBorke | TOP, RIGHT, CENTER, BOTTOM, LEFT ;-) |
| 18:34.06 | Lunessa | I love how "prepping CD-RW media for use" takes 30 mins. /sarcasm |
| 18:34.18 | Mr_Rabies2 | why does consortium rep have to be such a bitch >:[ |
| 18:34.36 | alestane | Yes, from the Upcoming 2.2 Changes thread: "* Frame positions are saved relative to the nearest corner rather than the upper left corner, so that they don't move when changing resolution and screen aspect ratio." |
| 18:34.39 | abug | is that the code for a console game? |
| 18:34.42 | Mr_Rabies2 | it's really the only difficult rep grind |
| 18:35.32 | Lopeppeppy | I'm hating them all, Mr_Rabies2. I'm trying to convince my raid group that 3 weeks is not enough time to tell me to get exalted with 3 different factions. |
| 18:35.48 | alestane | No, that's U U D D L R L R A B |
| 18:35.48 | Mr_Rabies2 | what factions? |
| 18:36.02 | Lunessa | <3 Lopeppeppy. |
| 18:36.14 | alestane | I'm guessing CX, Sha'tar and either Scryers/Aldor. |
| 18:36.14 | Mr_Rabies2 | A B B A D A B B A D U U imo |
| 18:36.21 | Lopeppeppy | What did she ask me for... I think it was CE, Sha'atar and my home one, yes. |
| 18:36.22 | Mr_Rabies2 | i'm just honored with scryers |
| 18:36.28 | Mr_Rabies2 | i have no real reason to get exalted |
| 18:36.35 | alestane | For the flasks or whatever it is they sell. |
| 18:36.39 | Mr_Rabies2 | the enchants are such a marginal change |
| 18:36.42 | Lunessa | Lopeppeppy: The amount of work required to get Exalted with ANYONE is a tremendous. |
| 18:36.51 | Mr_Rabies2 | sha'tar i got exalted with on accident |
| 18:36.56 | Mr_Rabies2 | CX is kinda a bitch |
| 18:37.05 | Mr_Rabies2 | revered->exalted is annoying |
| 18:37.13 | Lopeppeppy | My raid leaders are graciously gifted with being able to create or join pugs. I am not the gods they are.... is very sad. |
| 18:37.27 | Mr_Rabies2 | you just gotta know how to pick em |
| 18:37.29 | Mr_Rabies2 | :P |
| 18:37.31 | Lunessa | Sorry Lopeppeppy - I know the feeling. |
| 18:37.52 | Mr_Rabies2 | start your own group and have a small questionnaire beforehand |
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| 18:38.03 | Thunder_Child | Lunessa, except for AV |
| 18:38.26 | Mr_Rabies2 | if they answer in something close to english |
| 18:38.32 | Lopeppeppy | *laugh* |
| 18:38.37 | Mr_Rabies2 | that's a decent help |
| 18:38.59 | Mr_Rabies2 | usually if they type like normal people they're not too bad |
| 18:39.08 | Mr_Rabies2 | HAY U WAN GO 2 HEROMECH?1 |
| 18:39.10 | Mr_Rabies2 | = no |
| 18:39.29 | Lopeppeppy | No, I don't mind a language barrier, I've done well with those. When I'm not booted for a priest... *sigh* I no can go Heromech. I no loved by mechs yet. |
| 18:39.32 | abug | it's the sneaky ones like cogwheel you've gotta watch out for |
| 18:39.33 | Lunessa | Hai guyz. I need 2 repair kk |
| 18:39.53 | ts|skrom | you mean "rpr" |
| 18:40.02 | Mr_Rabies2 | generally if they're typing like that they also put similar effort into playing their characters |
| 18:40.31 | Lopeppeppy | "Hey, no, I never trained Spell Deflection, is that any good?" |
| 18:40.37 | Mr_Rabies2 | = kick |
| 18:40.39 | Mr_Rabies2 | i'm ruthless |
| 18:40.46 | Mr_Rabies2 | "where was the DI?" |
| 18:40.49 | Mr_Rabies2 | "i never trained it |
| 18:40.50 | Mr_Rabies2 | " |
| 18:40.52 | Mr_Rabies2 | *boot* |
| 18:41.01 | Mr_Rabies2 | *ignore* |
| 18:41.19 | ts|skrom | I hate feral druids who don't train their heals (and vice verse) |
| 18:41.29 | Lopeppeppy | "Nah, we decided to skip quests, we don't want to be in here forever." |
| 18:41.30 | alestane | We had a pally in Uldaman the other day, and I was explaining that he would need Righteous Defense for the next fights so the mage and priest didn't keep dying. |
| 18:42.02 | alestane | And he said, "I don't have that, it's stupid. It's like a insta die." |
| 18:42.03 | Mr_Rabies2 | ts|skrom, if you've got a feral that's needing to heal often something is wrong |
| 18:42.07 | Thunder_Child | is stupidity reportable under harassment? seems resonable to me...... |
| 18:42.23 | alestane | So the shammy tanked the final boss fight and did a better job. |
| 18:42.33 | Lunessa | Thunder_Child: Pretty soon, there'd be no customers. |
| 18:42.39 | ts|skrom | what I mean MR2 is those times when a feral druid is the only healer in LFG |
| 18:42.43 | ts|skrom | don't have much choice then. |
| 18:42.47 | Mr_Rabies2 | uh |
| 18:42.49 | Mr_Rabies2 | i wouldn't take him |
| 18:42.54 | ts|skrom | ... |
| 18:42.54 | Mr_Rabies2 | and I'M a feral druid |
| 18:42.54 | Thunder_Child | Lunessa, including you? |
| 18:43.00 | Lunessa | Up until about level 60, my shaman did a pretty good job tanking. |
| 18:43.01 | ts|skrom | way to play the stereotypes |
| 18:43.05 | Mr_Rabies2 | not at all |
| 18:43.09 | Lunessa | Thunder_Child: ESPECIALLY including me. |
| 18:43.15 | Mr_Rabies2 | ferals are not good past the normal 5 mans for anything but tanking and healing |
| 18:43.16 | Thunder_Child | >< |
| 18:43.35 | Mr_Rabies2 | ferals are tank/dps hybrids, healing is not a good idea for them at all |
| 18:43.36 | ts|skrom | I'm sorry if you misunderstood. I'm level 38 |
| 18:44.02 | ts|skrom | I'm talking about mid level stuff |
| 18:44.02 | clad|book | Is anyone here capable of validating XML against a schema for me? |
| 18:44.04 | Lopeppeppy | I had my warrior in Kara the other night just out of the blue ask me to be responsible for telling him when to use his Shield Wall and Last Stand. I was like..... WTF? |
| 18:44.23 | Mr_Rabies2 | mid-level stuff, ts|skrom |
| 18:44.27 | Mr_Rabies2 | you're better off just soloing |
| 18:44.29 | alestane | Not from work clad, but once I get home I can. |
| 18:44.32 | ts|skrom | *sigh* |
| 18:44.37 | Mr_Rabies2 | it sucks, but tis the way things are now |
| 18:44.42 | Mr_Rabies2 | no one rolls alts anymore |
| 18:44.46 | clad|book | for some reason, I can't get PlayerFrame.xml to validate against UI.xsd |
| 18:44.50 | clad|book | and i'm wondering if I'm doing somethign wrong, heh |
| 18:44.59 | ts|skrom | if it were true then I wouldn't have any anecdotes would I... |
| 18:45.16 | Lunessa | Mr_Rabies: Must be something wrong with me then. 4 level 70s. |
| 18:45.26 | alestane | I have toons from 22 to 70, MR2, and I'm on a pretty mature server...startign areas are far from empty. |
| 18:45.27 | Shirik | "Aug. 20-27, 2007 issue - In one of history's more absurd acts of totalitarianism, China has banned Buddhist monks in Tibet from reincarnating without government permission. " |
| 18:45.36 | Shirik | http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/20227400/site/newsweek/ |
| 18:45.37 | Mr_Rabies2 | lunessa, how many other alts did you see while leveling? |
| 18:45.38 | clad|book | or rather, any of the XML files against the schema |
| 18:45.50 | alestane | You reading the Onion or something Shirik? |
| 18:45.52 | Lopeppeppy | I did okay for groups up until 55. It varies by server, and by time of day, and by zone. |
| 18:45.54 | Mr_Rabies2 | the numbers are waaaaaaaaay down because azeroth sucks compared to bc content |
| 18:45.57 | Lunessa | A significant number. I play on an RP server. |
| 18:46.01 | Mr_Rabies2 | ohh |
| 18:46.03 | Mr_Rabies2 | that's probably why |
| 18:46.13 | Mr_Rabies2 | on mine, the server is like 95% 70s |
| 18:46.16 | Mr_Rabies2 | and 5% 1-60 |
| 18:46.17 | Mr_Rabies2 | er |
| 18:46.19 | Mr_Rabies2 | and 5% 1-69 |
| 18:46.35 | Mr_Rabies2 | similar numbers on my other server |
| 18:46.43 | alestane | clad|book: Mac or Windows? On Mac you have to tweak the path to the schema file in the XML so it's readable in the right filename scheme. |
| 18:47.04 | clad|book | i'm passing the software the schema file directly |
| 18:47.10 | clad|book | but i'll look at that, thanks. |
| 18:47.34 | Mr_Rabies2 | personally i'd rather deal with the average normal/pvp server idiot than an RP idiot |
| 18:47.48 | alestane | Well, I use XML Nanny? And it still needed that tweak to avoid giving me errors. Plus once I did that I didn't need to pass in the schema anymore. |
| 18:47.53 | Lopeppeppy | And us RP idiots feel the exact opposite. |
| 18:47.56 | Mr_Rabies2 | most people take things way way way too seriously on RP servers :x |
| 18:47.59 | clad|book | yeah i'm using nanny |
| 18:48.17 | clad|book | would love to know what you needed to tweak :P |
| 18:48.21 | zenzelezz | all this nanny talk reminds me of Anarchy Online :-o The implant creator |
| 18:48.41 | Lopeppeppy | I think the two server types attract opposites, and it's good that there are many separate servers. |
| 18:49.06 | Lunessa | I've played on all kinds of servers. I'm happy where I'm at. |
| 18:49.09 | alestane | "<Ui xmlns="http://www.blizzard.com/wow/ui/" xmlns:xsi="http://www.w3.org/2001/XMLSchema-instance" xsi:schemaLocation="http://www.blizzard.com/wow/ui/ |
| 18:49.09 | alestane | ..\FrameXML\UI.xsd">" |
| 18:49.16 | Lunessa | And Lopeppeppy You need to come visit. :) |
| 18:49.28 | Mr_Rabies2 | too many RP players have both persecution and superiority complexes |
| 18:49.49 | Mr_Rabies2 | sure, a lot of PVPers and Normal players are just stupid |
| 18:49.52 | clad|book | <Ui xmlns="http://www.blizzard.com/wow/ui/" xmlns:xsi="http://www.w3.org/2001/XMLSchema-instance" xsi:schemaLocation="http://www.blizzard.com/wow/ui/ |
| 18:49.52 | clad|book | ../FrameXML/UI.xsd"> |
| 18:49.53 | amro | some rp servers are funny because nobody rps there |
| 18:49.56 | Mr_Rabies2 | but you can ignore stupid |
| 18:49.59 | alestane | The "..\FrameXML\UI.xsd" needs to be "./UI.xsd" iirc. |
| 18:50.04 | Lunessa | We'll drag you around like a gnome love muffin. |
| 18:50.06 | clad|book | oh.. okay |
| 18:50.19 | Lopeppeppy | I forget where I'm supposed to be your gnomish love muffin, Lunessa. Was that Kirin Tor? |
| 18:50.26 | Lunessa | Yup. |
| 18:50.26 | alestane | cause the \ is for a Windows pathname. |
| 18:50.41 | Mr_Rabies2 | knowing gnome cooking i would NOT want a gnomish love muffin |
| 18:50.48 | Shirik | or |
| 18:50.53 | Shirik | you could just not use XML o:D |
| 18:51.01 | clad|book | Shirik: blow me |
| 18:51.17 | clad|book | alestane: Hrm.. XMLNanny is requiring me to select a schema, regardless (it seems) |
| 18:51.34 | Shirik | what's that? OnLoad? I don't need no OnLoad! I tell you when to load! You don't own me! |
| 18:51.53 | Lunessa | Shirik: You're not the king of me! |
| 18:51.54 | Mr_Rabies2 | there's a couple RPers on my server |
| 18:52.02 | alestane | I always say to validate using schema, but I don't put in anything for the Schema file field. |
| 18:52.04 | Mr_Rabies2 | i go out of my way to remove their immersion :D |
| 18:52.14 | Mr_Rabies2 | i just idly sit there and laugh to myself on rp servers though |
| 18:52.18 | clad|book | alestane: hrm.. okay |
| 18:52.38 | Shirik | clad|book: I know of this really good book you could use as reference |
| 18:52.38 | alestane | That tells it to use the schema referenced in the document itself. |
| 18:52.57 | Shirik | It's called "hacking world of warcraft" |
| 18:52.59 | Shirik | ^_^ |
| 18:53.04 | Shirik | ok I'll shut up now |
| 18:53.11 | abug | I laffed |
| 18:53.19 | abug | more of a guffaw I suppose |
| 18:53.52 | clad|book | alestane: its always saying "required" for the validation line |
| 18:54.08 | clad|book | http://images.gammatester.com/pics/0b32352e977e3b5680c69b74e3f8e23d.png |
| 18:54.09 | alestane | Dunno...I'll check the version when I get home. |
| 18:54.13 | clad|book | okay O.o |
| 18:54.33 | alestane | What happens if you ignore it and click Parse? |
| 18:54.40 | clad|book | error sound. |
| 18:54.46 | Shirik | ping |
| 18:55.01 | Shirik | oh wait I forgot this is mac |
| 18:55.09 | Shirik | I mean "evil black bomb of death" |
| 18:56.33 | clad|book | alestane: http://images.gammatester.com/pics/b385179d4d46af0f23067cf2c18dddaa.png is what I get if i select teh schema, I assume this is what you were getting? |
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| 19:04.12 | clad|book | alestane: Looks like an issue in 3.0 Beta 1.. I went to version 2.0 and I can validate now. |
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| 19:08.43 | alestane | clad|book: I never even used to get that far...it would say unrecognized element. |
| 19:08.48 | clad|book | hrm |
| 19:08.50 | clad|book | interesting. |
| 19:08.54 | clad|book | i think i have somethign working now. |
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| 19:23.15 | |Jelly| | All Incubator does is time respawns, correct? |
| 19:25.58 | Lunessa | Yes, and only in raids. |
| 19:25.59 | Thunder_Child | sure, why not |
| 19:34.05 | |Jelly| | K. That's what I want. Thanks. 8) |
| 19:34.48 | buu | Hrrrm. |
| 19:51.21 | alestane | Wow quiet... |
| 19:53.52 | kadrahil | SHUT UP YOU BROKE THE SILENCE |
| 19:54.02 | kadrahil | ~flee |
| 19:54.02 | purl | ACTION runs away screaming |
| 19:55.07 | Thunder_Child | anyone know a program that can monitor what program is using what/how much bandwidth? |
| 19:55.18 | Thunder_Child | s/program/programs/ |
| 19:55.23 | Thunder_Child | .... |
| 19:56.19 | Lunessa | Thunder_Child: Network Monitor, built in to Windows XP/Vista? |
| 19:57.00 | Thunder_Child | doesnt show what program is using bandwidth does it? |
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| 19:59.15 | Lunessa | One sec. I'll check. |
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| 19:59.59 | Thunder_Child | hmm..although i may have found it with netstat |
| 20:00.22 | Polarina | My addon is waiting for approval... |
| 20:02.34 | Lunessa | Thunder_Child: The tool I'm thinking of comes with the AD management package, so unless you're running as network admin on a server cluster it probably won't be installed. My bad. |
| 20:03.10 | Thunder_Child | doesnt need a cluster iir my class correctly |
| 20:03.22 | Lunessa | No, but it doesn't come standard. |
| 20:03.32 | Thunder_Child | hmm...well time to go pick it up |
| 20:04.15 | Thunder_Child | oooo...netmon 3 |
| 20:04.25 | sag_ich_nicht | fuck netmon |
| 20:04.33 | sag_ich_nicht | HAIL WIRESHARK, THE GRRRRRRRREAT SPY |
| 20:04.55 | Mr_Rabies2 | i'll wireshark your face with my fist |
| 20:04.57 | Mr_Rabies2 | that didn't quite work |
| 20:05.19 | sag_ich_nicht | lawl |
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| 20:23.09 | Lunessa | ...net splt? |
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| 20:28.08 | Industrial | amro: ping |
| 20:28.23 | Saint-N | http://www.newsrazor.net/ |
| 20:28.45 | Saint-N | <lammort> he looks liek the joker or something |
| 20:28.45 | Saint-N | <lammort> that's the look of a man who's about to download some child pornography |
| 20:28.50 | Saint-N | in regards to the guy on the front page |
| 20:29.56 | Industrial | rofl |
| 20:30.39 | amro | Industrial: pong |
| 20:42.40 | bleeter | hehe, looks like the Winers have identified a major bug in fmodex. Audio fails to initialise in Eve Online and Red Ocean as well .. very similar backtraces ;) |
| 20:44.27 | Polarina | bleeter: So it's not a bug in Wine at all? |
| 20:45.27 | |Jelly| | WTB how to make it so I click on someone's name in chat and it opens a /w to them. I can't find the option...anywhere. |
| 20:46.05 | alestane | Isn't that...stock? |
| 20:46.07 | bleeter | Polarina: well, I'm still not 100% convinced it's a wine bug, but I'm not 100% convinved it's an fmodex bug... I'm almost 100% convinced now that it's not a Blizzard error |
| 20:46.21 | Polarina | bleeter: Ok. |
| 20:46.46 | Lunessa | |Jelly|: Default feature. |
| 20:46.55 | bleeter | Polarina: well, some would argue that Blizz using fmodex was a big error... ;) |
| 20:47.08 | |Jelly| | Where's the option? I understand it's a default feature but apparently in Tapestry, it's turned off. |
| 20:47.09 | Polarina | bleeter: I think they should use OpenAL. |
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| 20:48.57 | Chaotic_D | ah cool. I figured something out myself. I see someone else used sets within patterns, and how they used it. and I got my string matching to work. |
| 20:49.15 | Industrial | hmm |
| 20:49.19 | Chaotic_D | for some reason my addon that was working perfectly fine before, stopped working when I came back to play after the Tuesday downtime. =( |
| 20:49.20 | Lunessa | |Jelly|: She uses Prat. Monkey with options. |
| 20:49.34 | |Jelly| | I know. lol |
| 20:49.39 | Industrial | seems like I can still whistle along all songs of Children of Bodom, including solos =D |
| 20:49.42 | |Jelly| | I've been looking through the options. :-\ |
| 20:50.02 | Lunessa | I'm using one of her older layouts and it works. Maybe your chat-cache.txt is fubar. |
| 20:50.30 | bleeter | Polarina: my thoughts exactly |
| 20:51.12 | bleeter | Polarina: they're prolly caught in some contractual foo by now that tied them in to Fmod for a certain period of time |
| 20:53.31 | Chaotic_D | ... if "." means all characters, why is "[%d.]+" not the same as ".+" ? because isn't [%d.] the same as [.] is the same as . ? |
| 20:54.37 | Chaotic_D | I know it's NOT the same as, because I tested it. but my only guess is that "." doesn't include digits for some reason... |
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| 20:55.46 | |Jelly| | Renaming my chat-cache didn't help. :-\ |
| 20:55.47 | Cide | >>> ("a"):match("[.]") |
| 20:55.47 | Cide | Cide: nil |
| 20:55.53 | alestane | I think that "." may not be interpreted inside of a set, since it includes all characters anyway. |
| 20:55.55 | Cide | Chaotic_D: [.] matches literal "." |
| 20:56.24 | Chaotic_D | ... oh. well... that makes sense. I should have guessed at that one, really. :S |
| 20:56.41 | Chaotic_D | what with co-ordinates sometimes having decimal places... |
| 20:56.43 | alestane | A set that included "these characters, those characters and allother characters for good measure" would be kind of silly. |
| 20:57.55 | Chaotic_D | thanks. |
| 20:59.38 | Chaotic_D | I wonder if the method in which cartographer waypoints are set from outside the addon has changed... and... somehow cartograopher auto-updated itself... no, that's too far-fetched. |
| 20:59.43 | Lunessa | Anyone have a link to an article that describes raid lock outs? |
| 20:59.54 | alestane | Lunessa: ? |
| 21:00.19 | Lunessa | i.e. the 7 day raid id for kara, etc. |
| 21:00.36 | Lunessa | NM, found what I'm looking for. |
| 21:01.01 | alestane | There's a calendar on worldofwarcraft.com I believe. |
| 21:01.44 | Lunessa | No, I wanted an explanation of the timer I could use as a link for the 'raiding primer' I'm writing for my guild. |
| 21:01.51 | Chaotic_D | my addon just doesn't work with cartographer waypoints anymore. and it worked before. it's behaving very strangely. and I think the only thing I changed was the script it loads. but the first half of the script should have been the same, and even that doesn't work. |
| 21:02.09 | alestane | Misplaced quote or something? |
| 21:02.39 | alestane | If your lua or XML can't parse, your addon usually won't load at all. |
| 21:04.03 | Chaotic_D | hm. yeah. it's done that before, so I recognize that. it DID do that at first. but somehow I got it loaded again, but the waypoints weren't loading. my debug notes were reporting the same normal behavior from when it did work. |
| 21:04.52 | |Jelly| | Grr. |
| 21:05.00 | Chaotic_D | ah well. gotta run back to the house and close the windows before the storm. |
| 21:05.05 | bleeter | Polarina: ouch, some Eve Online players have been waiting over a year for a fix for the issue on native Win32 :/ |
| 21:05.09 | alestane | |Jelly|: Still not finding it? |
| 21:05.26 | |Jelly| | I've clicked on and off every option that I could find in Prat. |
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| 21:05.54 | |Jelly| | Now, I'm not 100% sure but I think the problem is that my chatframe isn't intercepting clicks at all. :-\ |
| 21:06.24 | Lunessa | Does it have an associated eepanel? |
| 21:06.53 | Lunessa | If so, check the strata assigned to that panel. :D |
| 21:07.07 | alestane | Well, gotta get home. |
| 21:08.04 | Polarina | bleeter: Ouch.. |
| 21:08.04 | |Jelly| | No. There's no panel on it. In fact, I don't have any panels yet. |
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| 21:18.22 | Lunessa | |Jelly|: Time to nuke chat-cache.txt maybe? |
| 21:19.58 | |Jelly| | Already did. |
| 21:20.13 | |Jelly| | <-- confused |
| 21:21.23 | |Jelly| | I can't interact with names at all: shift+click, right click, nothing. I haven't seen a setting. I'm about to have to do the disable addons thing until I find out...which I don't want to do. |
| 21:32.28 | bleeter | gah, the fmod support email guy said 'we don't support windows emulators', or similar. Indicated that it's a Wine fault, I responded with 'Hmm, native errors in WoW and Eve leads me to suspect otherwise, but yeah... if we have harder suspicions we'll get back in contact' |
| 21:32.39 | bleeter | and 'oh, btw, Wine Is Not an Emulator' |
| 21:34.26 | Lunessa | ... then wtf would they call it? |
| 21:34.39 | Lunessa | Virtualization? |
| 21:35.11 | deltron | :) |
| 21:35.18 | deltron | it's a rewrite |
| 21:36.52 | |Jelly| | ... |
| 21:37.24 | bleeter | API compatibility layer |
| 21:37.26 | deltron | something like that |
| 21:38.51 | |Jelly| | Lunessa: Ready for this? I can do it in any of my other chat tabs. |
| 21:39.17 | Lunessa | |Jelly|: That's... bad. |
| 21:39.36 | bleeter | nuked layout-cache.txt as well? |
| 21:39.40 | |Jelly| | That's ANNOYING |
| 21:39.51 | bleeter | reckon it would be |
| 21:41.24 | Chaotic_D | anyone seen Brian Kopp's Alliance leveling guide? |
| 21:42.29 | Chaotic_D | I was wondering if it's really efficient the way he tells you to run back and forth across the continents. |
| 21:42.41 | Mr_Rabies2 | i dunno |
| 21:42.46 | Mr_Rabies2 | i checked out both his and joana's |
| 21:43.28 | bleeter | think of it this way, switch between continents to 7kXP, or stay in one zone for 2x1500XP. I know which I'd be doing ;) |
| 21:43.44 | bleeter | I'm saying that, having read neither his or mancow's |
| 21:43.54 | Chaotic_D | I haven't checked out all of Joana's thoroughly, but in addition to being more sloppy in layout, Brian's also has missing steps. |
| 21:44.43 | Chaotic_D | it's not that he tells you to go to another zone. it's that he tells you to go back and forth across multiple zones, and return to the same zones to continue questing. |
| 21:45.18 | Industrial | what texture do I give a unitframe to make it 100% color? the tooltip background is not 100% |
| 21:45.21 | bleeter | properly calculated, and I'm not saying he done this or not done this, that can be efficient too. All depends on current level, quest chains completed/pending. |
| 21:45.30 | Chaotic_D | ... I wonder if my BPS is enough to protect me from this storm... @_@; that was... a loud crack of thunder. |
| 21:45.31 | bleeter | *he has |
| 21:46.00 | Chaotic_D | hrm. ah well. |
| 21:46.33 | |Jelly| | Think it has something to do with the alignment. |
| 21:46.59 | |Jelly| | Cause I just broke another one of my chatframes. lol |
| 21:47.05 | Chaotic_D | Alliance by both their nature and necessity must wander long distances? :> |
| 21:48.24 | |Jelly| | And fixed it... |
| 21:48.46 | |Jelly| | Think updating Prat might help? It's an alignment issue and I want my chat frame aligned to the right. 8( |
| 21:49.15 | Thunder_Child | updating is (almost) always a good thing |
| 21:49.49 | Thunder_Child | ~whalestab |Jelly| |
| 21:49.50 | purl | ACTION stabs |Jelly| with a rather narrow and pointy whale named Montgomery |
| 21:49.56 | Lunessa | Industrial: In LUA? |
| 21:50.05 | Lunessa | bah.. lua |
| 21:50.06 | |Jelly| | ~whaleparry Thunder_Child |
| 21:50.06 | purl | ACTION uses a slightly less-huge but eminently more agile killer whale named Edwardo to parry Thunder_Child's attacks. |
| 21:50.10 | Industrial | yes |
| 21:50.11 | bleeter | hmm, the Firelight Tech (fmodex) lead programmer's at blizz right now ;) |
| 21:50.42 | Industrial | im gunna poke at my own EEpanels - ish - thing |
| 21:50.49 | Industrial | but with CreateFrame and SetTexture :3 |
| 21:50.55 | Lunessa | Industrial: I'm not sure. Are you hacking the defaults? |
| 21:51.22 | Industrial | no i just want some colored squares on ym screen |
| 21:51.24 | Industrial | oh wait a min |
| 21:51.30 | Industrial | i dont need a texture for that, just a color |
| 21:51.33 | Industrial | never mind! |
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| 21:59.19 | |Jelly| | Hey Cog |
| 22:00.28 | Thunder_Child | i bet you look foolish in your office waving at a computer |
| 22:00.35 | bleeter | oh crap, cog's here... I better shurrup |
| 22:00.51 | cogwheel | Thunder_Child: Not at work! ZING |
| 22:01.13 | Thunder_Child | err.....well i'm sure it still looked foolish |
| 22:01.33 | bleeter | fmod's position 'all we do is open a simple directsound buffer and mix to it' |
| 22:02.20 | Thunder_Child | wont that degrade sound? |
| 22:02.31 | Thunder_Child | use system resources |
| 22:02.49 | bleeter | my response: yar must be annoying having random q hacker suggesting one's product's faulty... I'm still not 100% convinced it's the cause - just that a BT from Eve Online points directly to fmodex error, and our forcing of dsound.dll to remain up after unloading also fixes that problem.... totally weird. |
| 22:03.26 | bleeter | ... 'I'll encourage the Wine Dsound guy to contact you with any suspicions/questions he has' |
| 22:04.20 | |Jelly| | Updating didn't help. :-\ |
| 22:04.25 | bleeter | I then proceeded to tell him that being in Cali at the moment is a god-send, 'coz here in .au we're stuck in pre-election mode and it's all quite terribly depressing lol |
| 22:04.35 | Thunder_Child | stop breaking your UI then! |
| 22:04.53 | |Jelly| | I blame Shirik. |
| 22:05.16 | AnduinLothar | so cal is 95°+ |
| 22:05.23 | Shirik | =( |
| 22:05.24 | AnduinLothar | atm |
| 22:06.07 | Cidan | :D |
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| 22:08.09 | Thunder_Child | 85 in my house atm |
| 22:08.22 | Thunder_Child | no A/C |
| 22:08.28 | Thunder_Child | er..AC |
| 22:09.36 | Chaotic_D | guh. |
| 22:10.00 | Polarina | 21° here. :) |
| 22:11.01 | Chaotic_D | what's A^? |
| 22:11.07 | cogwheel | Thunder_Child: it's about 85 in mine too... and we have AC (but it's downstairs and comp is up) |
| 22:15.25 | Valaron|Work | http://www.gametrailers.com/player/usermovies/79431.html |
| 22:15.30 | Valaron|Work | Erk.. wrong window. |
| 22:15.41 | Chaotic_D | I wonder why Tekkub used this odd filenaming convention for the script files of ##_##_ZoneSmushedTogether.lua when he could have used ##-##_Zone_Spaced_Apart.lua. |
| 22:16.38 | Thunder_Child | Chaotic_D, it's prolly the degree symbol nor apearing properly on your client....just a guess though |
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| 22:17.24 | Chaotic_D | ah. |
| 22:17.56 | Thunder_Child | cool, wowheads talent calc will let you increase the cap to 80 |
| 22:18.13 | Thunder_Child | no new talents but it's interesting |
| 22:19.57 | bleeter | cool, I seem to have convinced the Fmodex author that my ramblings and unclear thoughts are worthy of at least a little attention :) Looks like I'll have a test case scenario nutted out this afternoon my time. |
| 22:20.07 | bleeter | gtg Uni now, cyaz. |
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| 22:26.03 | Industrial | I wish wow pets could hunt like engineer pets can in AO |
| 22:26.57 | Industrial | instead of the pantsy Agressive stance |
| 22:27.29 | buu | Does anyone have any recommendations for a mod that displays wowhead type comments for quests? |
| 22:28.13 | Industrial | buu: LightHeaded + TomTOm |
| 22:28.51 | JoshBorke | you don't need TomTom for LightHeaded |
| 22:31.24 | alestane | AnduinLothar: This FileMerge util is kinda cool and kinda freaky. |
| 22:31.33 | AnduinLothar | ? |
| 22:31.59 | Chaotic_D | Don't you need TomTom OR Cartographer with LightHeaded if you want them on your map? |
| 22:31.59 | alestane | I thought you were the one who recommended I get XCode |
| 22:32.27 | AnduinLothar | i did, how's it freaky |
| 22:32.48 | alestane | Mostly watching changed sections sort of crawl past each other as you scroll. |
| 22:34.17 | JoshBorke | Chaotic_D: you only need waypoint addons if you want to be able to place waypoints on your map for the quests |
| 22:34.24 | alestane | Only thing is, it doesn't look like it'll save a change summary, I think I still have to use diff directly fo that. |
| 22:34.45 | AnduinLothar | not that that's hard |
| 22:34.51 | JoshBorke | diff -Naur! |
| 22:34.59 | AnduinLothar | diff file2 file2 > file.out |
| 22:35.14 | Chaotic_D | you only need waypoint addons if you want to be able to find the locations of quest items. :> |
| 22:35.31 | alestane | I got that far, trying to figure out if there's any control over the format of the output. |
| 22:37.55 | JoshBorke | -u! |
| 22:37.59 | JoshBorke | universal! |
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| 22:51.40 | Thunder_Child | ~bored |
| 22:51.41 | purl | La ... lalalala ... beer! |
| 22:51.55 | Kaydeethree | beer! |
| 22:52.18 | Thunder_Child | well i am glad someone got something out of it |
| 22:52.36 | blq | same here |
| 22:52.37 | Shirik | man, we have some very strange people come into #conspiracy |
| 22:52.45 | Thunder_Child | heh |
| 22:52.55 | Kaydeethree | "so, the guvmint's gettin ya down, eh?" |
| 22:53.01 | Shirik | it doesn't help that CIA-7 is in there |
| 22:53.06 | Kaydeethree | ahaha |
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| 22:53.33 | Lunessa | ... /tinfoilhat |
| 22:59.22 | Thunder_Child | that name sounds familiar |
| 22:59.36 | Shirik | CIA-7? |
| 22:59.39 | Thunder_Child | yea |
| 22:59.42 | Shirik | it's a bot |
| 22:59.47 | Shirik | like the one #dongle and #wowace uses |
| 23:00.14 | Thunder_Child | ah, used to hang around in wowace..must be where i remeber it from |
| 23:00.33 | Thunder_Child | remember* |
| 23:00.35 | art3mis | eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee |
| 23:00.43 | Shirik | ~lart art3mis |
| 23:00.43 | purl | cuts off art3mis's head with a halberd that could have been a little bit sharper |
| 23:01.26 | art3mis | at elast im not shirik who curls up in the fecal position to sleep |
| 23:01.37 | Shirik | fecal position? |
| 23:01.44 | art3mis | yes mr.poopey pants |
| 23:02.13 | art3mis | ya know since yer not doing anything important with conspiracy |
| 23:02.20 | Thunder_Child | *sigh* i just tried imagining the "fecal position" |
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| 23:02.46 | Thunder_Child | works better as a sec position |
| 23:02.48 | art3mis | go make me a draggable box creator that can handle raising and lower sections based on click points so i can make shapes |
| 23:02.51 | Thunder_Child | sex* |
| 23:03.09 | art3mis | and has a "add border" button/selector |
| 23:03.58 | art3mis | ya kow what i'd really like as an addon? |
| 23:04.22 | art3mis | something like a box that i can put a bunch of addons into and then close the box and all the addons turn off and open the box and the addons reappear |
| 23:04.30 | art3mis | that would be enat |
| 23:04.31 | art3mis | neat |
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| 23:08.04 | Lunessa | How about a keybinding interface that lets you drag and drop icons from your spellbook or inventory onto a virtual keyboard? |
| 23:08.29 | Rallion | neat idea. |
| 23:08.45 | Rallion | awesomely neat. |
| 23:09.25 | Lunessa | I know, I know; now that I've thought of it, I need to f'ing code it. Which ought to take me like a billion years. |
| 23:10.10 | Kaydeethree | woo for having friends in high places... I've been searching for a few months, I've finally got a Wii |
| 23:10.26 | Rallion | lol I've had one for months |
| 23:10.47 | Rallion | :P |
| 23:11.02 | JoshBorke | Lunessa: steal keyboard layout from BindingsReminder. mazzle contacted me about doing something similar |
| 23:11.37 | Lunessa | Maybe I will Josh. I've been slacking and haven't written anything more complex than macros in a while. |
| 23:11.48 | Rallion | I got one during one of the periods that ToysRUs.com had them available |
| 23:12.02 | Kaydeethree | wal-mart got a shipment in a few hours ago |
| 23:12.54 | Rallion | dammit I was going to try to find a copy of metroid 3 today |
| 23:12.59 | Rallion | I forgot :/ |
| 23:15.32 | art3mis | okay so thats two addons someone needs to make |
| 23:15.41 | art3mis | luneys virtual keybinder for spells |
| 23:15.51 | art3mis | and my layout boxes |
| 23:15.58 | Lunessa | AFK ... fooding |
| 23:17.11 | Corrodias | virtual keybinder? |
| 23:17.20 | art3mis | yeah |
| 23:17.38 | art3mis | shows a keyboard with letters, drag and drop spells and abilities on to the keys |
| 23:17.40 | Corrodias | i just got here and don't see the explanation. what's this idea like? |
| 23:17.40 | Corrodias | ah |
| 23:17.43 | art3mis | as luney explained above |
| 23:17.55 | art3mis | right below ayds joining |
| 23:18.10 | Corrodias | aha |
| 23:18.20 | Corrodias | is this really so neat? |
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| 23:19.19 | JoshBorke | i think it would be neat to have a generic key-binder in the format of a keyboard |
| 23:19.33 | Corrodias | i must crush this dream |
| 23:19.48 | JoshBorke | it's ok, i'll never write it |
| 23:19.50 | herzogthc | ZZzzzz. |
| 23:20.44 | art3mis | Corrodias: its neat if you're super lazy ;P |
| 23:21.08 | herzogthc | Keybindings could use some changeups for sho |
| 23:22.52 | ckknight | Corrodias: lol, why? |
| 23:23.07 | ckknight | Corrodias: main issue I see is that foreigners are lame with their funky keyboards |
| 23:25.25 | JoshBorke | Kaelten: http://www.wowwiki.com/LibStub <-- pretties |
| 23:27.14 | Kaelten | not sure I like that format |
| 23:27.25 | JoshBorke | i'm sure i don't like your format! |
| 23:27.31 | Kaelten | :P |
| 23:27.37 | Kaelten | don't skulk |
| 23:28.04 | JoshBorke | ~dict skulk |
| 23:28.15 | JoshBorke | ~dict sulk |
| 23:28.40 | ckknight | ~dict broner |
| 23:28.45 | ckknight | blast |
| 23:28.48 | JoshBorke | ~dict boner |
| 23:28.59 | ckknight | a broner is an unintended man-initiated boner |
| 23:29.29 | Corrodias | cool |
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| 23:32.46 | JoshBorke | purl, join #conspiracy |
| 23:32.55 | JoshBorke | (19:32:45) purl: I am not allowed to join #conspiracy. |
| 23:32.57 | JoshBorke | why not? |
| 23:32.59 | ScytheBlade1 | Indeed |
| 23:33.03 | JoshBorke | (19:32:45) purl: I am not allowed to join #conspiracy. |
| 23:33.09 | JoshBorke | purl: because I don't like you |
| 23:33.12 | ScytheBlade1 | That's a restriction set by the bot author (TimRiker) |
| 23:33.12 | JoshBorke | lol |
| 23:33.17 | Cidan | lol |
| 23:33.24 | Cidan | why? |
| 23:33.25 | Cidan | :( |
| 23:33.27 | ScytheBlade1 | Otherwise, people could get the bots in limitless channels |
| 23:33.29 | ScytheBlade1 | It'd be abused |
| 23:33.32 | Cidan | ah |
| 23:33.35 | ScytheBlade1 | Simply ask the guy the next time you see him |
| 23:33.36 | Cidan | So who can tell it to join? |
| 23:33.38 | ScytheBlade1 | He's a nice nice ;) |
| 23:33.40 | ScytheBlade1 | TimRiker |
| 23:33.43 | ScytheBlade1 | *nice guy |
| 23:33.45 | Cidan | Ah |
| 23:33.54 | ScytheBlade1 | Go ahead and ~botmail him if you need it |
| 23:34.04 | JoshBorke | i was just going to do it to annoy shirik |
| 23:34.10 | ScytheBlade1 | He can't |
| 23:34.11 | JoshBorke | shirik: wouldn't that have been nice? |
| 23:34.13 | ScytheBlade1 | I don't think anyways |
| 23:34.20 | Chaotic_D | how do you get to the flightmaster in Stormwind City? I forget. I know I did it once and I remember it being annoying to figure out how to get up there. |
| 23:34.23 | herzogthc | sup scythe |
| 23:34.26 | JoshBorke | shirik: if i made purl join #conspiracy just to annoy you |
| 23:34.30 | ScytheBlade1 | Migraine |
| 23:34.31 | herzogthc | Chaotic_D: Bottom um |
| 23:34.32 | herzogthc | hold on |
| 23:34.47 | Chaotic_D | I have him on the map. I just don't remember where you enter the wall. |
| 23:34.49 | JoshBorke | Chaotic_D: from the main bridge, go in to the big split right in the middle, take a right, then take another right and go up the ramp |
| 23:34.55 | herzogthc | ok |
| 23:35.00 | herzogthc | from the trade district |
| 23:35.10 | herzogthc | bottom righthand corner of the trade district |
| 23:35.16 | herzogthc | map illustrates the road pretty well |
| 23:35.18 | JoshBorke | ie southeast ;-) |
| 23:35.23 | herzogthc | ya alley scum :) |
| 23:35.33 | herzogthc | JoshBorke: Actually, barely |
| 23:35.38 | herzogthc | JoshBorke: Stormwind is tilted |
| 23:35.39 | herzogthc | on the map |
| 23:35.41 | Chaotic_D | ah. it... almost looks like the map shows a ramp... I wonder if that's the right dead-end to go into. |
| 23:35.43 | herzogthc | it's kinda weird |
| 23:35.56 | Chaotic_D | http://www.wowhead.com/?npc=352 |
| 23:36.01 | ScytheBlade1 | JoshBorke, having "any person at all" with the ability to make the bots join and leave channels could be abused, and it should be pretty obvious as to how :) |
| 23:36.01 | JoshBorke | it's not right by the water |
| 23:36.05 | herzogthc | do you not have metamap chaotic? |
| 23:36.12 | JoshBorke | ScytheBlade1: i know :-) |
| 23:36.29 | ScytheBlade1 | JoshBorke, good. Sorry if I'm being redundant, but I can't really think straight now |
| 23:36.31 | JoshBorke | Chaotic_D: the ramp is to teh southwest of the dot |
| 23:36.32 | herzogthc | oh |
| 23:36.33 | herzogthc | nm |
| 23:36.42 | herzogthc | my maps are all covered up w/ green dots and lines and shit |
| 23:36.48 | herzogthc | I really wanna modify wkb |
| 23:36.52 | herzogthc | it's so close to perfect |
| 23:36.56 | herzogthc | and yet so far :P |
| 23:37.21 | herzogthc | but metamap is some hard shit to make your way through when you didn't really even know of lua prior to WoW |
| 23:37.22 | Chaotic_D | lines? what's wkb? |
| 23:37.28 | herzogthc | metamap wkb |
| 23:37.31 | herzogthc | keeps a database of mobs |
| 23:37.33 | herzogthc | dots w/ locations |
| 23:37.38 | herzogthc | draws peremiter maps |
| 23:37.41 | herzogthc | or however you spell that |
| 23:37.51 | Chaotic_D | oooh, map locations other than dots. |
| 23:37.57 | JoshBorke | lol: , 'If there is something good in the world then we copy with pride.' Well, ok then." |
| 23:38.05 | herzogthc | metamap wkb is kinda annoying |
| 23:38.07 | herzogthc | but it's awesome |
| 23:38.09 | ckknight | Cartographer ftw, herzogthc :-P |
| 23:38.22 | herzogthc | ckknight: Wait where plz |
| 23:38.25 | herzogthc | i wanna see. |
| 23:38.34 | herzogthc | I will ditch meta in a minute if Cartographer does what I think you're implying it should do :) |
| 23:39.00 | ckknight | it doesn't have the mob thingy in the core, though I believe someone made a 3rd-party module that does that |
| 23:39.08 | ckknight | it's a wowace addon (Note: I may be the author) |
| 23:39.10 | herzogthc | um ok |
| 23:39.14 | herzogthc | you may be the author? :P |
| 23:39.21 | herzogthc | and whats wowace |
| 23:39.23 | herzogthc | i'm a newb to this and all etc |
| 23:39.36 | herzogthc | you saying you may be the author makes me wanna mod metamapwkb even more ;) |
| 23:39.41 | herzogthc | I like healthy competition |
| 23:40.40 | ckknight | *shrug* |
| 23:40.43 | ckknight | do what you feel like |
| 23:40.45 | JoshBorke | what does wkb stand for? |
| 23:40.52 | herzogthc | i'm not sure |
| 23:40.55 | Cidan | WANT KNOW BOOBIES |
| 23:40.58 | Cidan | Or something. |
| 23:41.00 | herzogthc | something knowledge base |
| 23:41.00 | JoshBorke | BOOBIES! |
| 23:41.02 | ckknight | ( º Y º ) |
| 23:41.05 | ckknight | hoot hoot |
| 23:41.07 | ckknight | it's an owl |
| 23:41.08 | Cidan | lol |
| 23:41.15 | ckknight | perky |
| 23:41.18 | herzogthc | ckknight: Seriously though are you the author of that or not? :) |
| 23:41.21 | herzogthc | this I may be |
| 23:41.21 | JoshBorke | its eyes are off-center |
| 23:41.22 | herzogthc | stuff |
| 23:41.24 | herzogthc | hehe |
| 23:41.24 | JoshBorke | herzogthc: yes he is |
| 23:41.28 | herzogthc | I figured |
| 23:41.30 | herzogthc | but he should tell me :) |
| 23:41.36 | ckknight | herzogthc: I'm the Chief Architect of Cartographer |
| 23:42.29 | Kaydeethree | huzzah! |
| 23:42.38 | JoshBorke | i hate you |
| 23:42.49 | herzogthc | wow |
| 23:42.52 | herzogthc | that's freakin awesome ck |
| 23:43.07 | ckknight | Kaydeethree: Wii is awesome |
| 23:43.07 | herzogthc | JoshBorke: why? |
| 23:43.07 | JoshBorke | i recommend turning off the minimap stuff |
| 23:43.11 | Cidan | <3 the wii |
| 23:43.14 | Cidan | So much fun |
| 23:43.18 | Cidan | OH SHIT |
| 23:43.18 | JoshBorke | herzogthc: because he owns a wii and i want one |
| 23:43.21 | Chaotic_D | I haven't played a console since... Xbox, GameCube, and PS2. |
| 23:43.22 | JoshBorke | SHIT OH |
| 23:43.22 | Cidan | I need to go pick up Metroid! |
| 23:43.24 | Cidan | FUCK |
| 23:43.24 | ckknight | I like boxing |
| 23:43.38 | herzogthc | Chaotic_D: man 360 owns :) |
| 23:43.51 | JoshBorke | Chaotic_D: wii is such a unique experience |
| 23:44.34 | Chaotic_D | I've played video games for so many years, most of them bore me. I admit I'm sure the ... uhg. *brainfart* |
| 23:44.54 | Chaotic_D | what do they call that when games are original... |
| 23:45.15 | JoshBorke | they are original... |
| 23:45.38 | JoshBorke | paper mario looks cool |
| 23:45.42 | JoshBorke | i saw someone playing it today |
| 23:45.50 | Cidan | it is, I need to pick that up too |
| 23:45.51 | Chaotic_D | way to go, Mr.Thesaurus. |
| 23:46.00 | JoshBorke | ~thes original |
| 23:46.05 | JoshBorke | ~thesaurus original |
| 23:46.12 | JoshBorke | ~dict original |
| 23:46.24 | JoshBorke | ~dict original 5 |
| 23:46.30 | JoshBorke | ~dict 5 original |
| 23:46.41 | JoshBorke | ~dict 6 original |
| 23:46.48 | JoshBorke | ~dict 7 original |
| 23:47.01 | Chaotic_D | innovative. that's the word. |
| 23:47.19 | Cidan | ~dict dict |
| 23:47.22 | Chaotic_D | man, it's not like that wasn't an industry buzzword. :P |
| 23:47.23 | Cidan | :( |
| 23:47.29 | Chaotic_D | you guys should know this crap. |
| 23:47.33 | JoshBorke | not me |
| 23:48.18 | JoshBorke | hate @ warrior for the wii though |
| 23:48.55 | JoshBorke | s/warrior/wario/ |
| 23:49.28 | Chaotic_D | I liked Wario's voice in Mario Kart 64. I wonder how many different voices they've had for him. |
| 23:49.41 | Chaotic_D | I noticed it was definately different in one of the Mario Party games. |
| 23:50.05 | Chaotic_D | I wonder what it will be like in the new Smash Bros. game. |
| 23:59.15 | art3mis | wow thats totally awesome |
| 23:59.37 | art3mis | curse keeps loading over and over in opera, like 20+times for no reason |
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