IRC log for #wowi-lounge on 20070827

00:00.03|Jelly|Except me. So it's alright. Cause I'm awesome.
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00:04.09JoshBorkewb cair
00:04.52Cairennthanks
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02:08.05Kaydeethreethe power of compiz: http://ctscreens.net/8663
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02:27.39Mr_Rabies2i don't like my desktop enough to have to see it all the time
02:27.50Mr_Rabies2it's actually a very large picture of batman's head for some reason
02:28.17Kaydeethreemeh. that's the first time I've used something other than the midori of green green in a windy forest background in a few years
02:28.28Tem|AFKoh how I hate dramatic irony
02:28.41Tem|AFKHE'S HIDING IN THE CLOSET WATING TO KILL YOU, DAMNIT
02:28.47Tem|AFKit's obvious
02:28.56Tem|AFK(because the camera is in the closet looking out at you)
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02:45.58Wobworkbah
02:46.04WobworkI'm trying to 'find more classmates' on facebook
02:46.08Wobworkbut it's not returning a search
02:46.17Wobworkjust dumping me back to my standard pge
02:49.05Cidanuse a better browser, like IE
02:53.21WobworkI have
02:56.13Tem|AFKWobwork, thefacebook is thedevil
02:58.30cladhairelol
02:58.36cladhaireis Tem|AFK  my facebook friend?
03:00.28cladhairebastage
03:02.36Nom-wow...the new HUD mode for Gatherher looks impressive
03:02.43Antiarchttp://tachyonsix.com/gi.jpg
03:02.46Antiarc:D
03:02.47cladhaireNom-: screenshot?
03:02.51AntiarcHeh, oops, wrong channel
03:13.34ScytheBlade1That picture is awesome
03:19.54Nom-There's a movie on the gatherer web site
03:20.17JoshBorkelink for the lazies :-D
03:20.24JoshBorkewww.gathereraddon.com?
03:22.05JoshBorkethat is pretty nifty
03:22.43JoshBorkei'm sure it sucks CPU like no tomorrow :-D
03:23.21|Jelly|http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=1272258785&sid=1&pageNo=1 <-- my head exploded a little
03:23.34Shirik!ap 1516
03:23.35ThraeBotShirik: Arena points from a rating of 1516 is, 2v2: 275, 3v3: 314, 5v5: 393
03:24.48Cidanman, I pity you if you need a HUD to show you where you've been like that
03:24.59CidanReal life must be a drag for someone with that short of a memory span
03:25.32|Jelly|It is. It really is.
03:25.46JoshBorkei think it's nifty Cidan :-P
03:25.50JoshBorkeshirik:  what do you think?
03:26.03Shirik?
03:26.15JoshBorkeshirik: about the hud
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03:27.18Shirikwhat hud?
03:27.31Shirikoh gatherer?
03:27.34ShirikI used to use it
03:27.37JoshBorkeshirik:  yea, gatherer hud
03:27.43Shirikwait... hud?
03:27.48Shirikas in, not on the minimap?
03:27.56JoshBorkeshirik:  yes
03:28.16CidanShirik, http://norganna.org/up/show.php/kEANX6/HudDemo2.avi
03:28.38Shirikwindows media player cannot play the file
03:28.44JoshBorkeshirik:  you fail
03:29.01Chaotic_Dheheh.
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03:29.59Chaotic_Dget VLC. it plays almost everything, without codecs.
03:30.02Cidanwhy are you not using Media Player Classic + Community Codec Pack, or VLC
03:30.10Cidanthough VLC is buggy.
03:30.15JoshBorkeshirik: yea shirik, why do you fail so badly shirik?
03:30.33Chaotic_Dmm... I don't like the way it handles. no way to change zoom with a single button or mouseclick.
03:30.35Shirik~lart JoshBorke
03:30.35purlinstalls a bad bootloader on JoshBorke and turns JoshBorke into a brick
03:30.42JoshBorke~lart shirik
03:30.42purlbreaks out the Hoover and sucks up shirik
03:30.57Shirikyou want me to turn on that script again huh
03:31.03JoshBorkeshirik:  what script?
03:31.08JoshBorke;-P
03:41.40|Jelly|Night Clad
03:41.46clad|sleepnight
03:42.45Cairennnight clad|sleep
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04:53.32Nom-woot
04:53.43Nom-my friends account closure was lessened to a warning
04:54.17Cairenngood for him
04:54.40Cairenngot it sorted out obviously
04:54.44Cairennwhat's the "warning" for?
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04:55.18Nom-'twas due to account sharing
04:56.15Cairennanyway, good for him that he managed to talk them into lessening it
04:56.37Nom-Yeah, both account owners involved were emailing Blizzard asking them to lif it
04:56.46Nom-It was (between the account holders) a misunderstanding
04:57.14Nom-Blizz enforced their rules etc etc as they're meant to
04:57.33Nom-But i'm glad they're cutting him a break
04:58.50Nom-our raids have been light on healing since he got cancelled :(
04:58.53Shirikglad to see they have some humans working there, tbph
04:59.48Nom-I bet the druid he's been levelling for the last week or so will stay at level 69 now though :P
05:01.49bleeterI tend to get the feeling their accounts department err on the side of being hard, then wait to see if the user attempts to pull the wool over their eyes, or is genuine in their response before deciding whether to 'lift' a suspension
05:02.01bleeterI suspect that approach would save them a lot of hassle
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05:04.44Shirikanyway I think I shall head off to bed
05:05.08Shirikclasses start tomorrow bleh
05:08.53Cairennnight Shirik|zZz
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05:14.44Cairenneeek! Papa Smurf, Papa Smurf, it's Gargamel!
05:15.03sag_ich_nichtpapa smurf is an awesome drink to kill braincells.
05:15.06sag_ich_nicht*afk*
05:20.43Nom-Oh, 3 cheers for 12 year olds with no life
05:20.49Nom-Apparently someone has found a way to crash our Realm
05:20.53Nom-And it's going down every 5 minutes :(
05:21.01bleeterwish thraebot could do a fight scene between papa smurf and gargamel
05:21.13bleeterbetter still, clones of smurfette
05:21.59ScytheBlade1I'm pretty sure that my lua is messing with my PHP
05:22.08ScytheBlade1I keep using .. as concat in PHP, when it's only .
05:22.10ScytheBlade1:(
05:23.27Nom-Are you one of those evil, evil people who generate HTML inside your code?
05:23.30Nom-I bet you are
05:23.56ScytheBlade1lol
05:23.59ScytheBlade1Actually this is worse
05:24.06ScytheBlade1This PHP script is being used as a shell script
05:24.15ScytheBlade1I'm pretty sure that's an unforgivable sin
05:24.47Tierrienuts
05:24.52Tierriei really really hate sunday evenings
05:24.56Tierrieits the worst
05:24.58Tierrieits not quite monday
05:25.02Tierriebut it might as well be a weeknight
05:26.49Nom-Dude.
05:26.52Nom-You're going to hell.
05:27.05Nom-PHP as a Shell Script is rated higher than murder in the sin list.
05:27.27ScytheBlade1Haha
05:27.32ScytheBlade1Was waiting for something like that
05:27.39Nom-You should, like, go kill someone and hope that noone IRL finds out you made a PHP Shell Script.
05:27.47Nom-* Note: May not contain good advice.
05:27.50ScytheBlade1Heh
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05:28.11ScytheBlade1Be glad I didn't tell you of an embedded system I built, who had it's init scripts in PHP
05:28.18ScytheBlade1THAT is a sin.
05:28.21Cairennawww, poor hard done by Tierrie
05:29.29ScytheBlade1PHP as the only script processor on embedded devices: the future.
05:31.40ScytheBlade1You probably think that I'm only saying that to scare you, that no sane person would do such a thing
05:31.46ScytheBlade1But you know, I was young, I was confused..
05:36.41Thunder_Childheh http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=6804474278665213217
05:39.58Thunder_Childi saw a licence plate today that said KTHXBI
05:40.33Cairennyou see the one from blizzcon that said stful2p ?
05:40.47Thunder_Childyea
05:44.26ScytheBlade1Ha
05:44.35ScytheBlade1It seems that there is a known exploit which will crash the WoW servers
05:46.08art3misroll 5 paladins and join a bg ?
05:46.29art3misor 5 boomkins
05:46.31ScytheBlade1No, like, really
05:46.37ScytheBlade1THe server software crashes
05:46.39art3misand when they merge to form ultra boomkin the server goes down
05:46.46ScytheBlade1By supposedly doing something somewhat simple
05:47.41art3misVery simple way to knock the ENTIRE SERVER offline for 2-3 min
05:47.41art3mis1. Be lvl 70 with an arena team
05:47.41art3mis2. Invite somebody to the arena Team
05:47.41art3mis3. LOG OUT
05:47.41art3mis4. Make them accept the arena team invite AFTER you have logged out
05:47.42art3mis5. GOOD ****ING GAME
05:47.44art3misthere ya go
05:47.49art3mis;)
05:48.16ScytheBlade1... lol
05:48.27art3misi was sorta right ;P
05:48.57Nom-hmm
05:48.59art3misis been hotfixed though appearantly
05:49.07ScytheBlade1Link?
05:49.09Nom-I wonder if someone is trying to use this server crash exploit to dupe gold :/
05:49.31art3mishehe its a good way
05:49.36art3miscept it's REALLY traceable
05:49.59art3mismo0stly because it logs the team invite and the join
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05:50.10art3misalthough im not sure who would catch the flack for it
05:50.16ScytheBlade1Link to where you found this?
05:50.34art3mismmowned.com
05:51.00art3misin obviously enough the exploits forum
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06:03.54Corrodiasand here i was expecting it to be in the Totally Legit Things Blizzard Loves You To Do forum
06:04.26art3misi know crazy huh?
06:04.47art3misthey have that it's at http://127.0.0.1/forums/
06:09.56art3mishttp://us.eternityii.com/competition-rules/
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06:16.12Cairennhey, look, it's a Kalroth!
06:16.30KalrothSo pink and furry, awww!
06:16.45Cairenn:)
06:18.51Thunder_Child...that sounded so wrong
06:19.27Cairennnot in the slightest, did it Kalroth sweetie? ;)
06:19.47KalrothOnly to people with a perverted mind!
06:19.54Thunder_Childyou have to sink your mind in the gutter a bit farther...like 9 or 10 hundred more lvls
06:20.11Corrodiasoh, i'm there.
06:20.12Wobworkmake sure you take a lantern though
06:20.17Wobworkor you'll be eaten by a grue
06:20.31Thunder_Childthats ok, without a lanter you get to feel your way around
06:20.36Thunder_Childlantern*
06:20.46WobworkI wonder what grue feels like
06:20.57Thunder_Childtry it yourself
06:21.11WobworkThat's alright
06:21.17WobworkI'll leave the grue molestation to you =)
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06:39.43Nom-fun fun fun
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06:42.47Corrodiasi feel somewhat aimless at this particular moment
06:42.52Corrodiasguess i need to just eat something and go to bed
06:44.27WobworkYou might as well watch some tv while you're at it =P
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06:52.58cogwheelARRGHHRGHRRLCH',.HSAOEUSNTUEMW!!!!
06:53.00cogwheelthat is all
06:53.24cogwheelhttp://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=1272258785
06:53.38Cairennindubitably
06:55.09KirkburnNight Cairenn|afk
06:55.14Cairenn|afknight :)
07:07.43Tierriegoogly moogly goonight cairenn
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09:43.10Wraangerheyaz
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09:57.49Wobin!c us argent dawn varoon
09:57.57ThraeBotWobin: Varoon, Level 70 Night Elf Rogue (18/36/7). 6834 HP; 1251 AP; 312.4 Melee DPS; 24.91% melee crit; 187 melee hit; 24.01% dodge; 17 resilience; 10 nature resist (+10);[[ TBR: 2819!! ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/ypcyuh ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/2klp2g ][ Updated: Mon Aug 27 06:07:55 2007 ]]
09:59.29Wraanger!c eu warsong valle
09:59.38ThraeBotWraanger: Valle, Level 70 Tauren Shaman (8/0/53). 8231 HP; 9083 Mana; 220 mana regen; 114 mp5; 9739 Armour; 4.03% melee crit; 87 spell crit; 128 +spell dmg; 1641 +heal; 4.03% dodge; 5% block; 94 resilience; 10 nature resist (+10);[[ TBR: 2347 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/2564mf ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/37z8sm ][ Updated: Mon Aug 27 06:09:37 2007 ]]
10:00.09Wraangerhrm ....true )
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10:34.45snegoviKeu warsong omg
10:34.51snegoviKrussian power
10:35.08Punkie`stonemaul by any chance?
10:35.28snegoviK!c eu stonemaul magnetica
10:35.39ThraeBotsnegoviK: Magnetica, Level 70 Draenei Priest (28/33/0). 7151 HP; 7890 Mana; 159 mana regen; 26 mp5; 160 spell crit; 8 spell hit; 573 +spell dmg; 624 +heal; 4.86% dodge; 24 resilience; 10 shadow resist (+10);[[ TBR: 2166 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/2z52wr ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/3deq4q ][ Updated: Mon Aug 27 06:45:38 2007 ]]
10:36.35snegoviKi better take that equip off quick
10:36.39snegoviKbefore anyone sees it
10:36.51Wraangeranyone does not like warsong here? +)
10:37.17snegoviKnah its fine ^^ you visit stonemaul when warsong is down sometimes :)
10:37.19snegoviKnice lads
10:37.21Punkie`i wish people from stonemaul would be so kind to talk english in the battlegrounds though
10:37.26Wraangeri know 0))
10:37.29snegoviKlots of [1. General] entertainment :)
10:37.35Wraangerwas there a couple of times
10:37.42Wraangerwhen Song was down )))
10:38.02snegoviKPunkie`: you are asking for too much :)
10:38.10snegoviKpeople can hardly speak their own language
10:38.12WraangerPunkie : most of them just don't know english good enough
10:38.15snegoviKand u ask them to speak eng :D
10:38.18Punkie`then they shouldn't talk
10:38.42snegoviKits a prickly thing shouldnt and should
10:38.52snegoviKnot everyone is so well brought up
10:39.18Punkie`i dont mind that stonemaul is a russian claimed server
10:39.24Punkie`thats fine because i have the choice not to go there
10:39.34Punkie`but battlegrounds = international
10:39.50snegoviKwhat you are saying is obviously true
10:40.02snegoviKi dont speak in /bg at all
10:40.16snegoviKand if i do its in eng
10:40.38snegoviKsome people forget its an english game :)
10:40.43Punkie`yeah
10:40.46Wraangerstrange thing ..when people talk in italian, or spanish, or german .... that does not bother anyone it seems ..... but if people speaks russian ..... BANG! big trouble arise
10:40.56Punkie`but the problem is, if someone asks them to speak engish when they are talking russian
10:41.08Punkie`they get really mouthy in english :P
10:41.09snegoviKyou get the f word up your arse:)
10:41.42snegoviKyea
10:41.47Wraanger!c eu warsong preda
10:41.54ThraeBotWraanger: Preda, Level 70 Troll Rogue (41/2/18). 9554 HP; +10 Energy; 1349 AP; 278.7 Melee DPS; 21.64% melee crit; 143 melee hit; 20.96% dodge; 74 resilience;[[ TBR: 2994!! ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/yqxgya ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/2la669 ][ Updated: Mon Aug 27 06:51:53 2007 ]]
10:41.55snegoviKcreate a lvl 1 char in if on stonemaukl
10:42.03snegoviKand write /2 english plx!
10:42.10snegoviKyou will learn a lot of new stuff :)
10:42.47Punkie`i dont even know your alphabet :P
10:42.48snegoviKthere was a huge discussion on wow-eu forums
10:42.52Punkie`but anyway, im going :P
10:42.54Punkie`laters!
10:42.57snegoviKlaters m8
10:43.00Wraangercya
10:43.16snegoviK22g repair mana tombs heroic
10:43.24snegoviK:(
10:43.28Wraangerpretty normal
10:43.48Wraangeri once got a 35 repair bill on SL normal )
10:44.02Wraangermy wife asked me to go heal her and some guildies ....
10:44.14snegoviK-.-
10:44.48snegoviKare you a russian addon dev then ? : )
10:44.59Wraangermore or less )
10:45.03snegoviKcorbina.ru seems so :)
10:45.17snegoviKwhats your work called?
10:45.24Wraangerdev is too much a word ... wrote 2 addons though
10:45.30WraangervMinimap and vTrack
10:45.41Wraangerand some other shit I have not released
10:45.44Wraanger;)
10:47.53snegoviKoh vtrack
10:47.58snegoviKi might actually download that
10:47.59snegoviK:)
10:48.07snegoviKlooks neat
10:48.23WraangervMinimap got that included )
10:48.36snegoviKnah i dont want a square minimap :)
10:48.40snegoviKthnx :)
10:49.01Wraangerthat's up to you ) I personally use only square ones )
10:50.01snegoviKall my interface is defaul
10:50.02snegoviKt
10:50.23snegoviKi just use Pitbull for party/raid frames
10:50.26snegoviKthats about it:)
10:50.28WraangeroO omg
10:51.17snegoviKyea
10:51.25snegoviKit doesnt look as neat but... used to it
10:52.19Wraangeri can't play on default ..it's just too plain ugly and not usefull
10:52.30Wraangertry to install Bongos2 at least )
10:53.33snegoviKgood thing about bongos u can stick chat frames around it
10:53.36snegoviKtakes up less space
10:53.39snegoviK:)
10:54.02snegoviKbut what would i use it? the default does everything i want
10:55.52Wraangerbut with Bongos2 you can arrange it in more compact and eye-pleasing order )))
10:56.37Wraangerand hide the ugly Blizz "artwork"
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10:58.10Wraangeralso, there is one addon which is really invaluable ....it is Lightheaded by Claidhaire
11:04.02snegoviKyea its nice
11:04.11snegoviKclad is a leg:)
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11:05.13Wraangeralso, for raid frames you can use PRaid ....for player / target / party - Nurfed ...etc etc etc
11:05.49snegoviKi use pitbull
11:05.54snegoviKits nice ^^
11:06.38Wraangeryeah ...but .... resources / output is not good if it is your only Ace2 mod
11:07.14snegoviKwhat do you mean
11:07.45Industrial<PROTECTED>
11:07.53Industrialit bothers me if people speak dutch - but im dutch
11:08.10Industriali play on enGB for a reason :P
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11:09.29Industrial:o its a legorol!
11:10.01Legorolmorning
11:10.24Wraangerheyaz
11:10.32Industrialohayou
11:10.39Legorolidd
11:12.07JoshBorkeguten morgen
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11:18.45Industrialhttp://www.smbc-comics.com/comics/20070826.gif
11:18.45Industrialrofl
11:18.48Industriallove this comic
11:19.00Industrialyou never expect it, and he fecken does it every time
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11:37.43Industrialits leet
11:42.52Legorolmay I request someone to do a post for me on US forums?
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11:51.27LegorolDetails of what I'd like someone to post for me on US forums:
11:51.27Legorolhttp://wowi.pastey.net/72795
11:55.17JoshBorkedone
12:01.21Wobinhum
12:01.30Wobin/quit doesn't seem to work anymore with wine
12:01.34Wobinin gamer
12:07.07krkaother than that, new wine has gotten better and better
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12:11.11Rallionokay...time to beat Bioshock
12:22.25Rallionthat was the most ridiculously anticlimactic ending ever
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13:12.22|Jelly|*ponders* Huh?
13:18.37bleetera small, fictional bug-like species of alien used as a weapon in the computer game Half-Life?
13:18.50bleeterminor character in Joseph Heller's novel Catch-22?
13:19.06bleetermix between a snort and a snicker used in comics?
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13:19.19|Jelly|lol
13:19.37bleeterearly 1970s text-based computer game from People's Computer Company?
13:19.53bleeteroO
13:19.56bleeterI worked it out
13:20.02bleeterSM-62 Snark, an intercontinental nuclear cruise missile
13:20.18RallionSnark wasn't really text based, unless there were two games called snark
13:20.40bleeterhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Snark_%28game%29
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13:20.58Rallioni guess there were two snarks.
13:21.21bleeterSNARK, SRI's New Automated Reasoning Kit ?
13:21.39bleeterwow, written in common lisp
13:22.35jcottrCan someone in here give me an invite to <Register for Save> on the Draka realm?  My toon's name is Ladrean.
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13:23.36|Jelly|PEPPY!
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13:24.47herzogthcahh linux server now also linux workstation :)
13:24.48bleeter|Jelly|!
13:24.51bleeterPEPPY!
13:25.00bleeterBLEETER!
13:27.39LopeppeppyGood morning, |Jelly| and bleeter!
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13:29.25|Jelly|yay!
13:29.58LopeppeppyI needed one of those, it's been a kitty of a weekend.
13:30.42bleetermmmmm kitty http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2007/08/27/2015865.htm
13:31.48LopeppeppyHow do you tell a wild furry tree sloth from a tame furry tree sloth?  They are looking the same... It must be because tame ones are easier to catch...
13:32.43|Jelly|lol
13:32.54LopeppeppyTerry Brooks always comes through.
13:33.23LopeppeppyCouple that with Christopher Moore.  "If I wasn't meant to have ugly women and cats, they wouldn't be so easy to catch."
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13:36.06Shirikmorning
13:36.14cladhairemorning.
13:36.16|Jelly|Morning!
13:39.06bleetermoaning!
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13:57.11|Jelly|Is it sad that my priest has more hp than this holy paladin? : \
13:57.27LopeppeppyHuh.  That's... unusual.
13:58.02LopeppeppyHey, |Jelly|... how do you break the cycle where you're a good healer, so people expect lots from you, and then more and more and more, until you go schizo and burn out and fry them all in canola oil?
13:58.46|Jelly|When you find out, let me know. I wanna play my shaman more and everyone wants the priest. lol
14:00.01LopeppeppyI'm a *hair* from the canola oil right now with my holy paladin.  I can't get the group to do 5 mans with me to save my life, but I'm being pushed against the edge of my healing endurance in Kara because I'm "the best".
14:00.05dieckclaim Blizzard has your priest locked away "for alleged gold transfer inquiries" or something. should keep your priest "busy" for about 2 month :)
14:01.00|Jelly|lol
14:01.36dieckbut then, hm, maybe they'll expect to do healing shaman, because you know how to heal :()
14:01.53LopeppeppyNice one, dieck.  I should do that!  I don't have another healing character above 55, they can't strong-arm me.
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14:03.47|Jelly|lol
14:05.04Linhi there all
14:05.09|Jelly|Hi
14:05.14LinShirik: how Conspiracy is going?
14:05.26Shirikdecently
14:05.38LinShirik: Im willing to put my hands on it
14:06.03Shirikwe haven't done as much work in the past few days as we normally do, since I spent the last 3 days driving, getting pissed off at other people who can't drive, replacing HDDs, car oil, etc.
14:06.18LinShirik: wow.. damn good weekend
14:06.23Shirikoh, yeah, very good
14:06.32LopeppeppyUgh.  Shirik, I've been dragging my car to mechanics all weekend too.  *sympathies*
14:06.53ShirikI'd be happy to take on more so long as I know the person, and Cidan seems to know you
14:07.08LinShirik: My weekend was playin WoW, cleaning house, examinating martial arts students.
14:07.59LinShirik: and I was worried because someone told me that the latestet patch broke all my desktops. In fact just 2 them are broken.
14:08.19LinShirik: me?
14:08.25Shirikseems like it
14:08.48LinShirik: ok. Cidan dont knows me. Just we chatting a little about lua, interfaces and WoW.
14:08.49Shirikor maybe I'm confusing you with someone else
14:08.52ShirikI dunno :P
14:09.04Shirikit started with an L and was a very short name
14:09.14Linit was me.
14:09.22Shirikheh
14:09.23Linbut we never have met.
14:09.28Linin Real Life
14:09.42ShirikANYWAY. For coders: Conspiracy's root shoul... Mr_Rabies2 no
14:10.10ShirikConspiracy's root should be finished somewhat soon, after which time anyone could start coding modules for it. For users: It shouldn't be too too long before we go into an alpha/beta status
14:10.11Mr_Rabies2yes
14:10.12Mr_Rabies2>:[
14:10.29ShirikBut until we start coding modules I don't know how well that'll go
14:10.30LinI want to code some modules/interfaces.
14:10.39LopeppeppyNo, no no.  Peppy want sleep, I don't want to hand-hold my users through another patch.  Please gods, let me sleep.
14:10.56ShirikI'm glad to see there are other people interested in such :)
14:10.57krkanice line to take out of context: <Lin> Shirik: Im willing to put my hands on it
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14:11.03Shirik.....
14:11.18krkajust saying
14:11.32cladhairelol
14:11.45ShirikAnyway Lin, when the core is done, I'm going to upload extensive documentation to our site and I'll let you know. I can also basically teach you the fundamentals of coding modules for Conspiracy
14:12.05krkawhat is conspiracy? any online material i could read?
14:12.13ShirikI don't know about Cidan's side, but my side is near ready for release.... this week even
14:12.23Shirikbut I don't know what he has in store for windows
14:12.24LinShirik: I thinking in build a tutorial based on my efforts.
14:12.47Shirikkrka: A modular raiding UI. The replacement for RDX.Cid.
14:13.01Shirikfaster, better on performance, more sharing of module information, and more security
14:13.01krkamodularity is such a fad
14:13.04Shirikit is
14:13.07krkamacrokernels is where it's at
14:13.08Shirikbut it sells well :P
14:13.15LinI love modularity
14:13.26LopeppeppyKernels... I like popcorn too.
14:13.32cladhaireusers think they love modularity, but no one ever disables anything.
14:13.38Rallionmmm popcorn
14:13.42cladhairemeaning they accept the overhead of modularity, without any benefits
14:13.59Shirikit's true
14:14.12Lincladhaire: programers love modularity
14:14.27ShirikI think, however, the benefit here lies in the fact that people don't have to install everything (not just disable)
14:14.33Shirikmuch like FuBar -- you don't download every single plugin
14:14.39Lincladhaire: I wish to just code something to connect with your code not write it all over again. aka. Reinventing the wheel
14:15.03LinShirik: I cannot even think about FuBar with ALL those plugins
14:15.06cladhaire... yes.. I'm a programmer.. I'm aware.
14:15.48krkai prefer that the main project is a single big thing, with a plugin interface
14:16.09krkathe main reason for modularity, imo, is that other devs could add stuff without learning the entire code base
14:16.10bleeterplugins... that reminds me of...
14:16.20bleeterother stuff
14:16.22nevcairielof course in many cases zomgmodular is good, but in many other cases its just unnecessary overhad
14:16.24nevcairiel*head
14:16.41Shirikdefine the difference between "plugins" and "modularity"
14:16.41LinIm just a newbie fan of WoW. Im amazed with game, and I love interact with game "internals", I have programmed bots for Ragnarok, and played with UO packets a long time ago.
14:16.57cladhairezomg modular!
14:17.13Linsomeone here from Horde-Altar of Storms?
14:17.20Shirikby my definition, a plugin could be considered a module
14:17.59Linplugin = some code to be connected to a core system (as module)
14:18.14ShirikIn any case, my main goal here is that many people will be coding for Conspiracy, however you only download what you want (like FuBar)
14:18.23Shirikbut everything will look similar, it will fit together, etc.
14:18.30ShirikIt will seem like one big piece
14:18.46ShirikBut actually it's just several little pieces that you chose to put together, that interoperate cleanly
14:18.59LinShirik: that its what I want. But I have read about Ace2,. and seems like conspiracy.
14:19.06krkanice line to take out of context: <Lin> Shirik: Im willing to put my hands on it <Shirik> It will seem like one big piece
14:19.06Shirikheh
14:19.06nevcairielnot like .. lets say pitbull, where you download one big pack with way too much stuff, and if you disable most of it, the overhead still hits you
14:19.09bleeteryou know, people seem to think that programmers agreeing on a sensible API for a problem is the norm
14:19.21bleeterlet alone the implementation
14:19.26ShirikAce2 is a library. Conspiracy is not.
14:19.30Linkrka: dont put words at my hands
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14:20.25Shirikbleeter: ?
14:20.47ShirikThat had nothing to do with the API, it was regarding the end-user "feel" of the system
14:20.51bleetersomehow, they seem to think they're engineers where everything is cut 'n dry yes/no, when in fact they're artists
14:21.03bleeterwas talking to modular/monolithic/plugin bollocks stuff
14:21.24bleeteryes, I'm slow coz it's late
14:21.26ShirikSee take Ace2 for example. The addons don't fit together (and it's not designed to be). They feel like separate addons. In contrast, my goal is that Conspiracy modules will seem to be one large piece
14:21.57ShirikThis is the key difference between a library and a ... whatever Conspiracy is
14:21.58bleeterand am thinking of eating pussy... http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2007/08/27/2015865.htm
14:22.26Shirikthose are the druids that didn't make it
14:23.27bleeteroO gonzales is gunna resign?
14:23.33bleeteroops, wrong #
14:24.19bleeterhot off the presses....
14:24.21bleeter00:23 <@norgs|away> Early pre-alpha of AuctioneerAdvanced can be downloaded  from: http://norganna.org/aucadv-r2082.zip
14:24.31bleeter00:23 <@norgs|away> Bear in mind: It works, but just barely!
14:25.38Linbleeter: what the advanced version does?
14:26.23LinI miss some readmes on WoW addons
14:26.34bleeterremoves memory limit problems, new evaluators, MODULAR (hahaha) design, new compactUI, new appraiser to replace old post auction interface
14:26.52Linbleeter: NEW BUGS?
14:27.08bleeternow more easily enhanced by 3rd party authors
14:27.09Linnew code cannot comes without new and fresh bugs.
14:27.23bleeterLin: ground up rewrite, so... yeah... but on the up side, no old bugs ;)
14:27.40Linbleeter: I will give a try, today.
14:27.56bleeterguaranteed to maybe eat babies
14:28.52LinA question (about the game) is worth to keep on BGs to gather all PVP rewards? (its my new char)
14:29.19Linand my first one.
14:31.02LopeppeppyThere are rewards in PvP that can certainly be excellent, Lin.  It's not *un-worth* your time to enjoy the battlegrounds.  The best way is to paw through something like Kaliban's Loot List and make yourself a wish list of gear.  Or inspect players you envy and find out where to get their gear.  Then go get it, wherever it is.
14:33.40bleetergnight folks
14:36.55LinLopeppeppy: im new in this game... I like battlegrounds.. after 3 days ons battlegrounds I have lots the fear of PvP
14:37.19LopeppeppyDeath is just the beginning.  If you don't mind dying, PvP can be a path to some nice sparklies.
14:38.27LinLopeppeppy: nice website.. I will dive into
14:38.36LinLopeppeppy: im just lvl 29.
14:38.57Linjust shows lvl 60+ itens
14:38.59Lin:-(
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14:42.17LopeppeppyAwww....  Thotbott and Allakazham (however you spell that last one) will let you search by gear type and level range, you can use those as well.  Sometimes they are more helpful.
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14:45.50ts|skromROAR
14:47.30ts|skromactually I'm a night elf cat form druid, so not quite a lion
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14:49.24amrokitty form*
14:49.31PolarinaHello everyone.
14:49.38amrohey
14:49.38ts|skromum... people in the druid forum are discussing 2.3 changes? did I miss something?
14:50.02nevcairielobviously
14:50.25ts|skromI didn't think 2.2 was out yet, where would they see patch notes from 2.3?
14:51.24LopeppeppyI know a few devs and so forth have made mention of 2.3 changes.... Didn't Iriel put a sticky in our forum?
14:51.42LopeppeppyYuppers, he did.
14:51.45nevcairieliriels post is about UI changes
14:51.50nevcairielwe generally know more :P
14:52.17LopeppeppyDoesn't mean that other types of changes haven't been talked about too.  Blizz isn't like a zillion steps behind itself... er... any more than usual!  :)
14:52.21amroalso need to know more, game changes can't break your character
14:52.24Nom-Tidewalker down *joy*
14:52.39nevcairielbut blizzy doesnt talk about upcoming patches alot
14:53.05LopeppeppyOh, I disagree, amro.  Game changes can break your character, very easily.  :)  I'm sure someone has mentioned things somewhere, nevcariel.  Or they could be just dreamin', that happens too.
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14:55.05ts|skromI found out yesterday that my worst enemy in arathi is in fact a balance druid.
14:55.47ts|skromthe only CC I ran into as a kitty that actually worked
14:56.15nevcairielplayers on class forums dream alot peppy :)
14:57.22amroI just lost a week's worth of code with a hard drive ><
14:57.30ts|skromouch :(
14:57.31nevcairiel:(
14:57.40nevcairielthats why i svn all my stuff
14:57.44nevcairieland store code on my raid5
14:58.22amrowell at least I have the old copy in svn. didn't have internet connection for awhile that's why the svn is outdated
14:58.28nevcairielouch
14:58.40ts|skromat least you didn't do what I did once. Lost a week of code because I was copying folders between two computers and overwrote my working files with older ones from the laptop
14:59.49amroI once lost a few years' worth of family photos by deleting a partition, repartitioning, and writing data on that partition. somehow I managed to recover bout 60%
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15:01.43|Jelly|Hey Cog.
15:02.02cog|workMorning
15:02.25|Jelly|I felt the need to epeen on the forums so I reported your posts! ALL OF THEM! /snicker
15:02.35cog|workhehe
15:03.33cog|workMissed one: http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=1272258785#84 :P
15:03.46cog|workoh... reported...
15:03.53cog|worki saw "responded to"
15:04.09|Jelly|hehe
15:04.44|Jelly|Does he honestly think he's going to accomplish anything? Think of all the mindless flaming I've done and I'm still here!
15:04.56|Jelly|<PROTECTED>
15:06.17cog|workmeh... he didn't bother me nearly as much as the OP
15:06.25|Jelly|Yeah.
15:06.26cog|workand technically, I was being a dick
15:06.32cog|work:P
15:06.36|Jelly|He deserved it.
15:06.54|Jelly|At least IMHO. lol
15:09.05LopeppeppyI sort of liked arguing that thread, I'm re-reading to see if he listened to me at all.
15:09.16|Jelly|Don't bother. He didn't.
15:09.42cog|workI made a list of all the people he essentially ignored in one of my later posts :P
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15:12.18LopeppeppySo I see, Cog.  This is just one script kiddie who has the rose colored glasses on, innit?
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15:13.09cog|workAccording to him, he's like the me or Iriel of the battle.net forums...
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15:13.23Darkbuskohallo
15:13.46|Jelly|Well. Welcome to the WOW forums. Read: NOT THE BATTLE.NET FORUMS.
15:13.46Kaydeethreeah, forum idiocy over in UI?
15:14.02LopeppeppySo? I don't think I'd see Iriel charging Bnet and demanding that it be so, because WoW does it, kthxbai.
15:14.02cog|workhttp://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=1272258785&sid=1
15:14.07|Jelly|Darkbusko: Hi
15:14.18Darkbuskoanyone good a fubar addon ?
15:14.27|Jelly|What?
15:14.43Darkbuskofubar
15:14.45Darkbuskothe addon
15:15.00|Jelly|Yeah. I know what it is; your question didn't make sense.
15:15.17Darkbuskowell im asking if anyone is good at it like how it works etc
15:15.25cog|workusing or writing?
15:15.37cog|workmight have more luck over on #wowace in either case
15:15.52Darkbuskowell i dont know i gues it would be more at writing
15:15.58Darkbuskook thanx i check there
15:18.34|Jelly|http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=1272279640&sid=1 <-- Why is it that every post sHe posts all but revolves around drama? /facepalm
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15:19.10|Jelly|Well played, Cog. I was looking at that necropost earlier.
15:20.47Shirik|AFKI don't even see what she's ranting about
15:20.50cog|workzomgSpeedRacer http://www.collider.com/entertainment/news/article.asp/aid/5290/tcid/1
15:20.57Shirik|AFKshe's stated facts without stating an argument
15:21.01Shirik|AFKwhich is somewhat pointless
15:21.08cog|workShirik|AFK: she's actually ranting about the ranters
15:21.12|Jelly|That's the point. It's not in response to anything...she's just going on about...nothing
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15:21.29cog|workI think the necro'ed "how mods ruin the game" thread got under "her" skin
15:21.42|Jelly|QQmoar imo
15:22.06|Jelly|There will always be people that think that mods and macros give an unfair advantage and guess what? 99.9999999999% of them will NEVER go to the UI forums.
15:22.35cog|work<3 the candle http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=1272299692
15:22.59|Jelly|rofl
15:26.13ts|skromhttp://www.sixen.org/cgwow.html buh? from that b.net kiddie's page
15:27.03LopeppeppyCan I get a permanent connection to the GM's too please?  Iriel, what monster did you breeeed!!!!!
15:27.58cog|workts|skrom: I read "cogwow.html" and was expecting him to be ranting about my behavior in his thread ><
15:28.33PolarinaShould I have the Changelog in the Addons description or inside the ZIP file?
15:29.15Mr_Rabies2are there any talent calculators out there that don't stop at 70?
15:29.22cog|workPolarina: both, imo
15:29.33Polarinacog|work: Ok.
15:29.36Mr_Rabies2i want to see what all stuff is possible if we just extended all the trees to 80, etc
15:29.42cog|workI can't stand it when more than trivial addons don't include documentation ;)
15:30.23Kaydeethreeya know.... you'd think the title of my sticky over on PTR would prevent threads like this... http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=1271909766&postId=12718457712&sid=1#1
15:30.24zenzelezzhokay, guild's warrior channel today: "i did dream about leo[theras the blind] :o"
15:30.57Mr_Rabies2duckduck
15:31.16clad|afkwow.. i was going to cover Omnibus for this chapter.. but its an absolute and 100% rip off of TinyPad
15:31.20cladhaireso eff that.
15:31.22cladhairegoose
15:31.38WobinI think it's slightly more bloated too
15:31.44Wobintries to do too much
15:31.47Wobinbut not as well
15:31.51cladhaireyeah, its... effing ridiculous
15:31.56Wobinbut that's all third hand opinion =)
15:32.04cladhairemaybe if he had tried to do something other than blatantly copy Gello, I'd do it
15:32.11cladhairebut no, i'm going to cover the original.
15:32.22Wobinand still the best =P
15:32.33WobinGello mods should always come first =P
15:33.19Wobinnight all
15:33.24|Jelly|night
15:34.07cladhairenight
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15:43.41ts|skromquote: And then, of course, there's the Sixen backwards is Nexis, which is similar to a Nexus, the Protoss main building.
15:43.55ts|skromThat's the only "definition" of Nexus he knows..
15:44.00ts|skromyeah, schools suck
15:44.48LopeppeppyVacuums for small minds.
15:45.02ts|skromO.o
15:46.15cog|workI extracted myself from the educational system as soon as I realized I could... High school was by far the most wasted time of my life.
15:46.44LopeppeppySame here.
15:47.02LopeppeppyI learned more going on road trips with my brother while he was home from the Navy, than I did in the Physics classroom.
15:47.21|Jelly|I graduated with honors. /facepalm
15:47.22ts|skromhaha Blue with the humor ftw:  Did I mention they get the sun first too? It's outrageous!
15:47.56LopeppeppySo did I, |Jelly|.  There's good to be had from any education, if you do the work to extract it.
15:48.05cog|workActually, I stand corrected... My wife and I were high school sweethearts ;)    /collectiveawwwwww
15:48.16|Jelly|awwwwwwww
15:48.17LopeppeppyAwwwww.  *laugh*
15:48.18ts|skromdie
15:50.11ts|skromsorry I'm feeling very bitter and retaliatory today
15:50.17ts|skrommeans I should prolly stay away from the forums
15:50.30|Jelly|No. Those are some of the best times to post IMO.
15:50.33|Jelly|:P
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15:51.26cog|work>>> SV
15:51.32Cidecog|work: {  } (#1)
15:51.57cladhairelua> SV
15:51.57cladbotcladhaire: { ["GetRandomArgument"] = function: 0x8093760 } (#1)
15:52.31cog|work>>> SV.GetRandomArgument = function(...) return (select(math.random(select("#",...)),...)) end
15:52.32Cidecog|work: nil
15:52.50cog|work>>> SV.GetRandomArgument("hi", "bye", "lalal")
15:52.51Cidecog|work: "hi"
15:52.53cog|work>>> SV.GetRandomArgument("hi", "bye", "lalal")
15:52.53Cidecog|work: "lalal"
15:53.01nevcairiellol
15:53.42cog|workYou have no idea how often I use GetRandomArgument to make decisions like movies to see, restaurants at which to eat, etc...
15:54.17cog|workI never carry cash so i can't flip coins.... I wonder if I can get a RNG on my cell phone...
15:54.22cladhairelua> string.dump(SV.GetRandomArgument)
15:54.22cladbotcladhaire: LuaQ
15:54.30|Jelly|I'm not gonna lie Cog...
15:54.32|Jelly|...NERD
15:54.37|Jelly|<3
15:54.38Kaydeethreehah. I was about to suggest "why the hell not just flip a coin?"
15:54.39cladhairelua> ("%q"):format(string.dump(SV.GetRandomArgument))
15:54.39cladbot000r000000000@sandbox.lua000º000000000¿000000000000000000000000000000000A@000000¥000000000€000000E€000000FÀÀ000€000000000\€000
15:54.39cladbot000000œ€000000ž000000
15:54.40cog|work<3
15:54.45Cide>>> string.dump(SV.GetRandomArgument)
15:54.46CideCide: "\027LuaQ\000\001\004\004\004\008\000[\000\000\000SV.GetRandomArgument = function(...) return (select(math.random(select(\"#\",...)),...)) end\000\001\000\000\000\001\000\000\000\000\000\002\005\012\000\000\000\005\000\000\000E@\000\000F\128\192\000\133\000\000\000\193\192\000\000%\001\000\000\156\000\000\000\\\128\000\000\165\000\000\000\028\128\000\000\030\000\000\001\030\000\128\000\004\000\000\000\004\007\000\000\000select\000\004\005\000\00
15:55.04cladhairelua> ("%q"):format(string.dump(SV.GetRandomArgument):gsub("%z", ""))
15:55.04cladbotr@sandbox.luaº¿A@¥€E€FÀÀ€\€
15:55.04cladbotœ€ž
15:55.21cladhairelul.
15:55.47Cidenice
15:56.04cog|work|Jelly|: I wanted to write one for my palm but it wasn't quite enough to motivate me through my palm programming book :P
15:56.06cladhaire>>>  ("%q"):format(string.dump(SV.GetRandomArgument):gsub("%z", ""))
15:56.07Cidecladhaire: "\"\027LuaQ\001\004\004\004\008[SV.GetRandomArgument = function(...) return (select(math.random(select(\\\"#\\\",...)),...)) end\001\001\002\005\012\005E@F\128\192\133\193\192%\001\156\\\\\128\165\028\128\030\001\030\128\004\004\007select\004\005math\004\007random\004\002#\012\001\001\001\001\001\001\001\001\001\001\001\001\""
15:56.21cladhairewow.. wonder why they're so drastically diferent :P
15:56.34cladhairemust be printing things differently :P
15:56.57ts|skromow my eyes
15:57.14|Jelly|*lights a fire* Anyone have an iPhone?
15:57.42LopeppeppyNah, the 15 year olds broked it.
15:57.45cladhairei bought geohot a car, i have the original unlocked iphone.
15:58.14cladhairecorrection, a car and three 8GB iPhones.
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15:58.42ts|skromwhy?
15:59.00cladhaireso i could have the world's first unlocked iPhone.
15:59.10ScytheBlade1Geez, and I thought that my PHP shell scripts were bad.
15:59.12Lejcan soneone name a frame that uses the colorpicker so I can get some code to look at. Can't rememebr any :<
15:59.12ScytheBlade1You're just horrible.
15:59.39cladhaireLej: PerfectRaid's buff editor and CTMod's something or other
15:59.45cladhaireor Wowwiki.com
16:00.06Lejmy wowwiki-fu is not high enough. I tried searching...
16:00.51cladhairehttp://www.wowwiki.com/HOWTO:_Use_the_ColorPickerFrame
16:00.53ts|skromaltoids + ice = YIKES
16:01.00cladhaireto be fair, i didn't get it with searching etiher, I knew where it was tho.
16:01.25Lejwell obviously you're a few levels higher than me, thanks
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16:04.43Cidecladhaire: I escape all non-common characters
16:04.53Cidevarious ctmods have plenty of color pickers
16:05.08cladhaireCide: i just string.format("%q") it, iirc.
16:05.20cladhairewhich is likely the difference.
16:05.24Cideyep
16:05.38Cideanyway
16:05.44Cidethe color picker is pretty easy to use, really
16:05.58ts|skromany neat new mods I should check out?
16:06.00Cideyou just give it a couple of callbacks and Show it
16:06.32LejYes that wiki article made it pretty clear
16:07.04LejIs there a similar premade frame for text strings?
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16:11.02cog|workhttp://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=1272359845 I wonder how long it would take to get used to not using any addons...
16:11.29cladhairethe only one i need is click-casting
16:11.34cladhaireother than that, I can get by without much issue
16:11.38nevcairielhmm
16:11.41nevcairielwhat do i really need
16:11.45cog|workI'd have a hard time click-casting as a warrior ;P
16:11.46nevcairielOneBag
16:11.46nevcairiel!
16:12.03cladhairecog|work: on my hunter, I need no addons, i'm just bare-bones
16:12.11cladhairenow that i think of it.
16:12.33cog|workActually, yeah... hunter is the only class I've played without any combat-related addons
16:12.42cog|work(at least since 2.0)
16:12.46cladhairerogue is the same
16:12.47cladhairefor me
16:12.56cladhaireand my mage/warlock
16:13.04cog|workbut there are so many non-combat mods I use that I feel gimped without...
16:13.05cladhairejust my priest/druid that i need click-casting on
16:14.23RallionI've found that I pretty much just plain can't use the default bag system anymore
16:14.45ts|skromneat thread cog
16:14.48cog|worksame
16:15.11cog|workmy wife is so addicted to her bag mod she was seriously considering not playing anymore when her TBag settings got wiped ><
16:15.22RallionI was doing something for my friend on his account and his computer, and I just couldn't stand it
16:15.43Rallionthen he was doing something on MY char on his computer, and he was all pissed because my items are so disorganized :P
16:15.50RallionArkInventory / Baggins ftw!
16:16.41sag_ich_nichtHAIL ENGBAGS
16:16.59Rallionengbags is so clunky
16:17.08Rallionat least the last version I used was
16:17.23cladhairei just organize my bags manually
16:17.25cladhaireor mrplow
16:17.26cladhaire*shrugs8
16:17.30LopeppeppyThe only thing I NEED as a healer is accurate and easy to read unit frames.  That means something with Mobhealth and deficit.  The rest, I can do by hand, if I so choose.
16:17.49cladhaireLopeppeppy: I can heal using the default unit frames without much issue
16:17.50cog|workEngInventory was great. It has many spinoffs: EngBags, TBag, and even ArkInventory
16:17.59cladhaireespecially with ToT being defaul tnow.
16:18.02cog|workthe one thing I absolutely hate about it is the configuration UI
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16:18.12cog|workIt is the epitome of poor UI design imo
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16:18.27cog|workWTF is up with using SLIDERS to represent a boolean value?
16:18.31cladhairelol
16:18.40ts|skromhah
16:19.03Rallionyeah
16:19.13Rallionexactly what I'm talking about :P
16:19.37LopeppeppyCladhaire: I find they are in exactly the wrong space, I can't get my eyes up to the top left.  So the one mod I'd need was a unit frame that I could move, that recognizes health deficits.
16:19.52clad|awayah i live in the top left
16:19.57clad|awayi like it there :P
16:20.07LopeppeppyI live in the bottom right, I find it cozy.  :P
16:20.14Rallionthe top left is where I put...uh...my latency display
16:20.27Rallionand free bag space.
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16:21.55LopeppeppyMy Omen and my Incubator are top left.  PallyPower runs along the midleft.
16:22.17ts|skromincubator?
16:22.43Lopeppeppywww.wowace.com -- timers for respawn
16:23.01LopeppeppyOr you could do AlienFu and get some Sigourney Weaver going on.
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16:24.07LopeppeppyI like it, and it helps my Kara raid nicely.  Three of us prefer different timers, so we can average the times and have a good idea if we wind up pushing the wire on something.
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16:36.45Cairennoi, that person is STILL going on about the external chat client?
16:38.16sag_ich_nichtwhat
16:38.17sag_ich_nichtwhere
16:38.18sag_ich_nichthalp
16:38.27Cairennhttp://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=1272258785&sid=1
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16:40.00sag_ich_nichtlol
16:42.10Valaron|WorkWow.. it's up to 5 pages. Last time I checked was still at page 2.
16:42.12Cairenn"your name isn't blue, therefore I can ignore what you say"
16:42.24LopeppeppyYeah, yesterday evening was fun times.
16:42.38Cairenn"so what if you've answered this question a million times over and actually know wtf you are talking about"
16:42.39LopeppeppyPreponderance of expert evidence means nothing to Mister Rose Glasses.
16:43.23CairennI like |Jelly|'s response
16:44.37Cairenn(latest response, that is)
16:44.41LopeppeppyFOAD?
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16:51.58ScytheBlade1Hmm, it seems the warlocks in my guild need more +hit
16:51.59ScytheBlade1http://pastey.net/72789
16:53.58art3mishttp://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=vids.individual&videoid=16797934
16:57.13Cairenno.O
16:58.28Industrial...
16:58.55art3misheh yeah theres really nothing more to say
16:59.39ScytheBlade1Good thing I don't have flash
17:00.25ScytheBlade1Unfortunately, this query isn't working
17:00.31art3mis"why do you think that most 5% of americans can't find the united states on a world map?" "because they dont have maps"
17:00.43art3misbest part is that she wasnt even trying to be funny
17:01.03art3misand then started rambling about south africa and asia
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17:02.08IndustrialScytheBlade1: go ORM
17:02.13ScytheBlade1ORM?
17:02.30Industrialyes
17:02.37ScytheBlade1define 'ORM'
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17:03.03Industrialhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Object-relational_mapping
17:03.32Industrial(you said query + php so I assume sql)
17:03.43ScytheBlade1Aye, SQL
17:03.49ScytheBlade1This won't solve my problem though
17:04.00ScytheBlade1I'm using mysqli + prepared statments
17:04.17ScytheBlade1And no matter what I do, the row is not inserted, and mysqli_error($conn) is null
17:04.59Cidepaste the query?
17:05.00Industrialan ORM layer sits between the database and the app, you wont have to write any more sql statements by hand
17:05.01Shirikmy bank blocked my account T_T
17:05.10Industrialpretty neat :o
17:05.14ShirikI had to pay for my books with my new credit card that I was never going to use
17:05.24LopeppeppyWhy'd they do that, Shirik?
17:05.25CairennShirik: ?!
17:05.33ShirikApparently there has been "unusual activity" on my account
17:05.38Cairennah
17:05.38Shirikso they locked my card until I call them >.>
17:05.49ShirikI assume that's the whole using the card from PA to FL :P
17:05.52ScytheBlade1http://pastey.net/72812
17:05.52Cairennwell, you have to admit, the last couple weeks have been rather odd
17:05.54Cairennyeah
17:05.56Shirikthey have
17:05.58LopeppeppyOh, sweet jeebus.  I ripped my bank a new one the only time they did that to my husband.
17:06.11LopeppeppyHe ordered something off Amazon and they froze his account.  Huh?
17:06.25ScytheBlade1Same has happened to me before
17:06.38LopeppeppyTell the geeks what is weird, they're crazy.
17:06.40Cairennwhether I rip into them or not depends on their reasoning
17:06.41ScytheBlade1"That CC moved from one state to another in less than an hour, something is up"
17:06.57CideScytheBlade1: you probably want to put UUID in quotation marks
17:07.00LopeppeppyLike... OMG, it was in his pocket in the car!
17:07.13zenzelezzhttp://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=1272279374&pageNo=1&sid=1#8 <--- Eyonix FTW
17:07.27ShirikScytheBlade1: thank you!
17:07.28Shirikmysqli ftw
17:07.36ScytheBlade1Cide, no. UUID() is a function, and the second one I'm inserting is being bound via bind_param()
17:08.22Shirikuh
17:08.22ScytheBlade1Quotation marks and "query injection safety" is handled by bind_param()
17:08.22CideUUID() yes, but not the field UUID
17:08.22Shirikare you sure about that ScytheBlade1?
17:08.22ShirikBecause you're naming a field UUID
17:08.22Shirikit'll get confused
17:08.22Cideyep
17:08.23Shirikbackticks should do it
17:08.36ScytheBlade1The line above it, which does the exact same thing, works.
17:08.53Cideif you don't want suggestions, don't whine!
17:08.55Shirikit shouldn't be valid
17:08.59Cairenn(since I know a bunch of you in here will be interested in this: http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2007-08-24/christian-manga-bible-with-japanese-artists-announced )
17:09.01ScytheBlade1Heh
17:09.01Shirikare you sure it works correctly? :P
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17:09.11ScytheBlade1Very (and not meaning to whine)
17:09.18ScytheBlade1There are 691 hits and 4 magic hits in this combat log
17:09.27ScytheBlade1There are 691 rows in the database
17:09.45Shirikwhat exactly is the error, btw?
17:09.58ScytheBlade1That's what's pissing me off
17:09.59Shirikand where is it coming from? (The bind or prepare?)
17:10.06ScytheBlade1Nothing is thrown, and mysqli_error($conn) is null
17:10.10ScytheBlade1But the row is not being inserted
17:10.13Shirikthat's awesome
17:10.16Shirikare you in a transaction?
17:10.30ScytheBlade1Nope
17:10.32Cidewhat's $str[3]?
17:10.40ScytheBlade1$str[3] = "Shadow";
17:10.53LopeppeppyCairenn: Looks interesting.
17:10.53staukenusing mysql with an addon?
17:11.02Cidecan you print the final sql statement?
17:11.02ScytheBlade1Shadowfiend hitting the mob in question
17:11.24ScytheBlade1Would love to, but that's not possible with mysqli_* and prepared statements (unless I'm missing something)
17:11.34Cidehence, prepared statements suck
17:11.38Shirikthey do not!
17:11.44Cidethey do when you can't print them
17:11.45Shirikprepared statements are awesome
17:11.55Cidethe general functionality is great
17:12.03Cidebut mysqli's execution apparently sucks
17:12.14Shirikjust for the hell of it, ScytheBlade1
17:12.19Shirikput backticks around UUID
17:12.23ScytheBlade1No matter how you put it, I don't want to mysql_real_escape() 20 variables for everything :)
17:12.34ScytheBlade1Shirik, just the column selection, correct?
17:12.37Shirikyeh
17:12.38Cideright
17:12.45CideScytheBlade1: that's what abstraction is for :P
17:12.50ShirikINSERT INTO `logdata` ( `UUID`, ....
17:12.56ScytheBlade1Running now
17:13.12Shirikalso you should use the OO version of mysqli :P
17:13.14Shirikimho it's cleaner
17:13.15ScytheBlade1Nothing.
17:13.27ScytheBlade1Shirik, I know. But, lazy.
17:13.41Shirikand you're absolutely sure there's no transaction
17:13.49ScytheBlade1691 rows
17:13.50Shirikthat's awesome
17:13.52ScytheBlade1Should be 695
17:14.21Shirikwhat does mysqli_stmt_prepare return
17:14.46IndustrialCairenn: rofl @ link
17:15.06Cidebool mysqli_stmt_prepare
17:15.08IndustrialCairenn: will it include tentacles and the like?
17:15.10staukenShirik: Whats the backticks around uuid's intention
17:15.10Industrial=D
17:15.24staukenI know what this will do on the *nix command line
17:15.26Cidestauken: UUID is a function as well as a field name
17:15.32ScytheBlade1It's returning a mysqli_stmt object, so that's working
17:15.59Shirikok
17:16.00staukenCide: so it acts as a distinguisher that UUID = function in that case?
17:16.03Shirikwhat's your error_reporting at?
17:16.03staukenCide: Or am I backwards
17:16.06Shirikstauken: no, literal
17:16.11Shiriki.e., field
17:16.12staukenah
17:16.16ScytheBlade1Heh. You'll hurt me, but this is just being run at the CLI.
17:16.32staukennothing is wrong with CLI interpreted languages
17:16.40ScytheBlade1There is when it's PHP :)
17:16.55stauken... I beg to differ. :)
17:17.01Shirikand of course
17:17.03staukenat least when you need uniform back-up scheduling
17:17.04Shirik$conn is valid, right?
17:17.06ScytheBlade1Aye
17:17.16ScytheBlade1It's in use... that's how I have 691 rows in the first place
17:17.17staukenor something else standard
17:17.20staukenheh
17:17.23ScytheBlade1(with a DELETE statment at the start)
17:17.35Shirikwait hold up
17:17.43ShirikWHAT is mysql_stmt_prepare returning?!
17:17.45Shirikan object?
17:18.01Shirikit.... shouldn't
17:18.05ScytheBlade1Yes. Read the documentation on that page more carefully.
17:18.12ScytheBlade1It either returs FALSE or an Object
17:18.23ShirikReturn Values
17:18.24ShirikReturns TRUE on success or FALSE on failure.
17:18.25ScytheBlade1In the case of an object, in PHP, that'll evaluate to TRUE (because it's not FALSE)
17:18.35ScytheBlade1That's PHP semantics for you.
17:18.36Shirikhttp://www.php.net/manual/en/function.mysqli-stmt-prepare.php
17:19.01Cidehe's using mysqli_prepare
17:19.12ScytheBlade1Oh, /smacks self
17:19.21Shirikoh
17:19.25Shiriknow um
17:19.31Shirikcan I object to using mysqli_prepare?
17:19.44ScytheBlade1lol
17:19.46Cidewhat's your reasoning? :P
17:20.05ShirikI don't like it :P
17:20.08ScytheBlade1http://pastey.net/72813
17:20.12ScytheBlade1case "Hit": works
17:20.21ScytheBlade1case "MagicHit": does not
17:20.43ScytheBlade1It is identical, with the exception of how I set $Type
17:20.44Cide$Type vs $type
17:20.53ScytheBlade1Holy crap
17:20.53ShirikPHP is not case-sensitive
17:20.55Shirikas much as I hate it
17:22.03Shirikbye Cairenn =(
17:22.03ScytheBlade1GOod, you're all still here :P
17:22.03ScytheBlade1*scans
17:22.03Shirikget a better client :P
17:22.03Shirik14(1311:2111:2414)  11-› Netsplit 11(simmons.freenode.net ‹-› irc.freenode.net11) 14 quits: IleBur, ckknight, cog|work, Legorol, dabujo, Cairenn, Thunder_Child, Kody-, clad|away, Kamaris, Codayus, Industrial, haste, Silviu-
17:22.03Shirikso much cleaner
17:22.33ScytheBlade1Wow. So.
17:22.36ScytheBlade1I'm going to shut up now.
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17:22.37Shirikdid that make a difference?
17:22.37ScytheBlade1Just... yeah. I'm going to shut up.
17:22.57Shirikno seriously
17:22.57ScytheBlade1No, that wasn't my problem.
17:22.57Shirikbecause it shouldn't
17:22.57Shirikah
17:22.57Shirikso what was it!
17:22.57ScytheBlade1I think I'm going to shut up now
17:22.57Shirikno
17:22.57Shirikyou have to tell us now
17:23.06PolarinaI released my second version of my addon. :D
17:23.07ShirikPolarina: yey :)
17:23.09ShirikCairenn: wb :)
17:23.15ScytheBlade1No I'm pretty sure I'm going to shut up, simply because I'll be killed otherwise
17:23.16PolarinaShirik: Thanks.
17:23.21Cidejust do it
17:23.27Cideor we'll never let you rest
17:23.27Shirikpurl, kick ScytheBlade1
17:23.28purlACTION kicks ScytheBlade1
17:23.34Cidepurl, kick ScytheBlade1
17:23.34purlACTION kicks ScytheBlade1
17:23.56ScytheBlade1I run the Query Browser on my win32 box next to me, I just hit ctrl+enter to update the current SELECT query I have in there
17:24.32ScytheBlade1So yeah, that SELECT quert was 'Where `Type` = "PhysicalDamage"'
17:24.42Shirikrofl
17:25.05Cidepurl, kick ScytheBlade1
17:25.05purlACTION kicks ScytheBlade1
17:25.19ScytheBlade1purl, kick ScytheBlade1
17:25.20purlACTION kicks ScytheBlade1
17:25.49Shirik~factinfo doesntwork
17:25.49purlthere's no such factoid as doesntwork, Shirik
17:26.00Shirikpurl, doesntwork is <reply> Look buddy, doesn't work is a strong statement. Does it sit on the couch all day? Does it want more money? Is it on IRC all the time? Be specific! Examples of what doesn't work (or the URL) tend to help too, or pastebin the config if that's the problem
17:26.00purlShirik: okay
17:26.05Shirikcourtesy of #lua :)
17:26.09ScytheBlade1Sudden change of topic to avert my stupidity: http://img.worsethanfailure.com/Images/200708/error'd/passwordPolicy.png
17:27.51ShirikScytheBlade1: That reminds me of my password at B&S
17:27.54ScytheBlade1mysqli_error($conn) was null for a reason. :'(
17:28.09ShirikThe password restrictions were like a page long
17:28.15ScytheBlade1lol
17:28.21ScytheBlade1My school has a simple policy
17:28.29Shirik"Must be exactly three letters followed by at least two numbers followed by at least two letters or symbols"
17:28.38ScytheBlade1Must be at least 7 long, contain one number, one character, one upper case letter, and one lower case letter
17:28.39Shirik"Must not contain any dictionary words"
17:28.46Shirik"Must not contain the acronym 'BNS'"
17:28.51Shirikthe list went on and on
17:28.54ScytheBlade1lol
17:28.57ScytheBlade1Painful
17:29.00Shirik"Must not contain the last two digits of your birth year in sequential order"
17:29.47Shirikessentially the list could hvae been shortened to "Must be a random series of letters and numbers with no meaning whatsoever"
17:29.51LopeppeppyShirik: My husband works in computer security, trying to get those rules into place is like drawing teeth without novacaine.  :)
17:30.24Shirikoh, and then to top it all off
17:30.40ShirikChange your password every 2 months. Your password may not be one you have used in the last 2 years.
17:30.52ShirikIt actually was a bit more strict, something like you can't have only changed the number, etc.
17:31.11ScytheBlade1The thing that scares me most is that someone went through and wrote the logic to enforce that.
17:31.17Shirikseriously :P
17:31.18LopeppeppyYup.
17:32.21ScytheBlade1It doesn't matter what language you write it in
17:32.27ScytheBlade1That is going to be painful, and lengthy
17:32.57art3mismy passwowrds are all sanscript
17:33.05art3misand i scan my retina
17:33.08ts|skromthat's extra job security if you write it in say... swahili
17:33.20ScytheBlade1lol
17:33.28ScytheBlade1That's a new way to look at things
17:33.34Shirikhahah I get it
17:33.37Shirik"look at things"
17:33.38Shirik"retina"
17:33.44art3mis~rimsho
17:33.46ts|skromO.o
17:33.46art3mis~rimshot
17:33.46purlba-dum CHH
17:33.58ts|skromthat pun hurt
17:34.05ScytheBlade1"The previous sysadmin wasn't a nutcase, he was a genius... look at the job security he had by writing scripts like this..."
17:34.09art3misit's R&B worthy
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17:46.42LinWoW should use Jabber protocol, to allow everyone (with account) to join a chat with online people. no matter where.
17:46.53LinJust to keep in touch with your guild mates
17:47.05Shirik!ap 1500
17:47.06ThraeBotShirik: Arena points from a rating of 1500 is, 2v2: 263, 3v3: 300, 5v5: 376
17:47.16zenzelezzin that case they could just as well have used IRC
17:47.28CideLin: or you could use jabber or any other chat protocol to do it yourself :)
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17:48.14LinCide: I was thinking about this.. create a addon to put chat on jabber.. but there is a lot of complications.
17:48.21LinWill not be fully integrated.
17:48.36Cidesounds like a lot of pain
17:48.54Cide./me nods at Lopeppeppy
17:48.58Cideerr.
17:49.08Lin./ls
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17:55.50sag_ich_nichtwtf.
17:56.00sag_ich_nichtRank 11+ can't write in worlddefense. since when?
17:56.14Kaydeethreesince dec 6. 2006
17:56.15ScytheBlade1A while ago
17:56.22Kaydeethreewith the elimination of ranks
17:56.23sag_ich_nicht[19:56] <Kaydeethree> since dec 6. 2006 <--failure :(
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18:12.56Shirik!ap 1516
18:12.57ThraeBotShirik: Arena points from a rating of 1516 is, 2v2: 275, 3v3: 314, 5v5: 393
18:18.32art3mishttp://www.scottmanning.com/archives/000455.php
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18:24.25Shirikhttp://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=1271909263&sid=1
18:25.00Shirik"i dont remember but if its an ability that a lvl19 rogue can get then il have it really soon "
18:25.51Lopeppeppymmmm....hmm.
18:26.09LopeppeppySaw that, thought "keylogger is what you need to get", decided I was being overly cranky, and left it alone.
18:27.08ts|skromfuh knee
18:32.39Shirikwb Cairenn
18:32.45Cairennhi
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18:35.51art3misi wonder if anti ever made Keylogger
18:36.12art3misit was an addon that just printed out yer keybinds ;P
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18:39.03Shirikwhat the heck is IE doing
18:39.07Shirikit refuses to let me download stuff
18:39.15Shirikit says it downloaded it, then when I go to get it, it's not there
18:41.30ShirikI give up, IE hates me
18:41.33ShirikI'm going to eat then class
18:41.53Cairennlater Shirik|AFK
18:48.08Mr_Rabies2duckduckduckduck
18:50.00Cairenngoose
18:51.15Mr_Rabies2it's hard to really express how i want to say it in text form
18:51.24Mr_Rabies2but not like duck, duck, duck, duck
18:51.27Mr_Rabies2but really fast
18:51.30Mr_Rabies2like duckduckduckduckduck
18:52.30Mr_Rabies2shirik
18:52.38Mr_Rabies2when IE starts being annoying, clear cache
18:52.46Mr_Rabies2i know you'll miss that since you're afk, but anyway
18:53.39Mr_Rabies2so yeah, #wowi-lounge
18:53.50Mr_Rabies2anyone going to Dragon*Con this weekend?
18:54.44Mr_Rabies2i'm going to murder dw hackleman with a LARPer's sword for not releasing illegal danish 2 yet, i think
18:55.05Mr_Rabies2while i'm there
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18:56.29Cairenngiven where it is and where I am - not I, Mr_Rabies2
18:56.47Mr_Rabies2get a summon
18:57.43Cairennheh
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18:59.48Mr_Rabies2i would love to meet some of the wowi crew but i can't blame anyone for not wanting to travel across the country
18:59.53Mr_Rabies2i didn't for blizzcon
18:59.56PolarinaHave anyone tried out my addon? :$
19:00.04Mr_Rabies2and wouldn't for dragoncon, but dragoncon is less than an hour of a drive
19:00.08Mr_Rabies2which addon, Polarina?
19:00.16PolarinaMr_Rabies2: Valuation
19:00.32Mr_Rabies2i'll check it out, i'm always trying out new addons
19:00.53PolarinaMr_Rabies2: Thanks.
19:01.49Mr_Rabies2you can't fetch that data without going to the vendor first, still, right?
19:02.06PolarinaIt comes with a pre-built database.
19:02.10Mr_Rabies2ah, i see that now
19:02.20Mr_Rabies2it still updates if it changes, correct?
19:02.42PolarinaMr_Rabies2: Well, not yet. But I sync with Armory Item DB every week.
19:02.45Mr_Rabies2like, if blizzard decides to make vendorfish worth 50g and i go to a vendor it'll update?
19:02.45Mr_Rabies2ah
19:02.46Mr_Rabies2nice
19:03.20Mr_Rabies2if you could get it working with garbagefu - assuming it doesn't already - i'd definitely use it
19:03.33IndustrialShirik|AFK: whats this IE you speak of?
19:03.35Mr_Rabies2informant/enhtooltip has too much of a footprint for me to deal with
19:03.37PolarinaGarbageFu?
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19:03.52Mr_Rabies2it sells junk to vendors for ya
19:04.02Kaydeethreeautomaton <3
19:04.12PolarinaMr_Rabies2: That's not the purpose of this addon.
19:04.14Mr_Rabies2it has support for different price lists
19:04.19Mr_Rabies2i know, but it reads price data
19:04.22Industrialit also makes space for looting by dropping the crp items right?
19:04.25Mr_Rabies2from anything you tell it to that's supported
19:04.33Industrialcrap*
19:04.33Mr_Rabies2yes, ind
19:04.36PolarinaMr_Rabies2: I don't understand.
19:04.52Mr_Rabies2you can tell it to drop/sell crap items, and it sorts the crap by price
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19:05.05Mr_Rabies2so if your inventory is full, you can drop the light feathers that sell for 7c a piece
19:05.15PolarinaMr_Rabies2: Not its purpse.
19:05.18Mr_Rabies2i know
19:05.25IndustrialMr_Rabies2: ! no they dont, ah!
19:05.28Cideyou're not listening to what he's saying...
19:05.30Industrialwhite item.
19:05.39Mr_Rabies2i'm saying, allow it to use it for price data
19:05.47Mr_Rabies2if that's possible, i don't know
19:05.52Mr_Rabies2if it's his end or yours
19:05.54PolarinaMr_Rabies2: It's an information addon. I find it useful when it comes to quest rewards.
19:05.59Mr_Rabies2if you use his api or he has to do it
19:06.02Mr_Rabies2i know it is
19:06.08PolarinaMr_Rabies2: "allow it to use it for price data" - Use what?
19:06.11Cide...
19:06.14Mr_Rabies2your addon
19:06.22PolarinaUse my addon for price data?
19:06.24CideGarbageFu uses price information from items to make educated decisions about items to sell to vendors
19:06.30Mr_Rabies2or trash
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19:06.36Industrialso Polarina, what your addon does is add price data to the item tooltip?
19:06.43Cidehe's asking you to support GarbageFu by providing your price information to the addon
19:06.47PolarinaIndustrial: Yes.
19:06.49Mr_Rabies2it can use its own stuff, or a number of other price information addons
19:06.54PolarinaCide: Ah.. I see.
19:06.58Industrialtheres at least 3 addons out there that do that, including the very well written one by Tuller
19:06.58Mr_Rabies2i currently use informant's price info
19:07.02Mr_Rabies2but informant has a huge memory footprint
19:07.08IndustrialSellFish
19:07.13Shirik|EcoleI use informant too
19:07.24Kaydeethreelike memory actually matters?
19:07.26Mr_Rabies2garbagefu-prices has some stuff too but you have to visit vendors at least once to get the data
19:07.28PolarinaIndustrial: Too many bugs in SellFish. And uses more memory.
19:07.39Shirik|EcoleKaydeethree: What if we only had like 100MB of RAM!!
19:07.42PolarinaMr_Rabies2: I see.
19:07.43IndustrialPolarina: talk to Tuller to improve it :D
19:07.46Mr_Rabies2Kaydeethree, highlighting an item tooltip makes enhtooltip leak like mad
19:07.46Kaydeethreethen you shouldn't be playing wow
19:07.53Mr_Rabies2like
19:08.01Mr_Rabies2my mem usage goes from <1kb/s
19:08.02CairennIndustrial: enough
19:08.04Mr_Rabies2to 150 or so
19:08.22Shirik|Ecoletechnically speaking
19:08.23CairennIndustrial: there are a ton of bar mods, and unit mods, and, and, and, yet people keep writing more
19:08.27Shirik|Ecolethere's no such thing as a memory leak in WoW
19:08.30Mr_Rabies2my framerate goes to hell too
19:08.32Shirik|Ecoles/WoW/WoW addons/
19:08.37Mr_Rabies2well, it does something bad shirik
19:08.48Mr_Rabies2highlighting an item raises memory usage heavily and kills my fps
19:08.48Shirik|Ecoleit probably churns the memory, which will be fixe on the next GC pass
19:08.50Shirik|Ecoleit's not a good thing
19:08.53Shirik|Ecolebut it's not a leak :)
19:08.55Cairennif Polarina wants to write a new price mod, then that's his right
19:08.56Mr_Rabies2unhighlighting instantly restores my fps
19:09.07Cairennyou of all people should know better
19:09.13PolarinaI didn't like any of the other price mods.
19:09.32Shirik|EcolePersonally, I don't like any of them currently
19:09.34CairennPolarina: that's fine, that wasn't the point I was making
19:09.34IndustrialCairenn: I just dont see what you can do about it thats different from the others
19:09.38Mr_Rabies2my fps drops from about 30-60 to <10 when i highlight an item thanks to enhtooltip/auctioneerpack
19:09.39Shirik|EcoleI just use informant because it's better than nothing
19:09.42CairennIndustrial: doesn't matter
19:10.10Shirik|EcoleMr_Rabies: Informant?
19:10.20Mr_Rabies2yeah, it uses enhtooltip to display the stuff
19:10.21IndustrialCairenn: I'm just commenting on it, I cant (dont want to) force someone to do something
19:10.28Shirik|Ecolewait, what do you mean "highlight an item"
19:10.32Mr_Rabies2unless i embed it which kills functionalirt partially
19:10.35Mr_Rabies2mouseover it, Shirik|AFK
19:10.38Shirik|Ecolehrm
19:10.41Shirik|EcoleI don't have that problem
19:10.43Cairenncommenting is fine, but it's coming across like you're slagging him for it
19:10.54ThraeMr_Rabies2: That's because it sorts your inventory and finds the last digit of pi whenever you mouseover an item, for your convenience.
19:10.57Cairennif it's just meant as straight comment, then my apologies
19:11.20Mr_Rabies2i mean hell
19:11.31Mr_Rabies2even baggins eats less memory than enhtooltip
19:11.39Mr_Rabies2s/memory/resources/
19:11.42Shirik|Ecolewell, baggins is ace!
19:11.47Shirik|Ecolesorry, that was out of line
19:11.49Thraeomgace
19:12.05Mr_Rabies2baggins eats resources pretty hard, but it's improving massively recently
19:12.21PolarinaMr_Rabies2: So if I implement this http://www.wowwiki.com/API_GetSellValue - You would use my addon, right?
19:12.41Shirik|Ecolewoah hold up
19:12.45ThraeCairenn: By the way, does wowinterface accept addon names with curse words in them?
19:12.46Shirik|Ecolethat API exists?!
19:12.54Shirik|EcoleThrae: If the admin says yes :P
19:12.55Mr_Rabies2don't code for me, code for yourself
19:13.04CairennThrae: depends on the "curse word" in question
19:13.06Thrae!api GetSellValue
19:13.07Mr_Rabies2i'm just suggesting stuff :P
19:13.10ThraeBotThrae: sellToVendorPrice = GetSellValue(item)  -- http://www.wowwiki.com/API_GetSellValue
19:13.16Shirik|Ecoleoh, that API does not exist
19:13.18Shirik|Ecoleit's fake
19:13.39ThraeYeah, the page isn't even made properly
19:13.42CairennThrae: why?
19:13.46PolarinaMr_Rabies2: I'm open for all feedbacks. Please. Make a comment to the addon or something. :)
19:13.53Mr_Rabies2i will
19:14.03Mr_Rabies2i'm not sure if it's your end or the garbagefu guys'
19:14.04ThraeCairenn: The curse word in question is "ThisAddonIsBetterWithoutAce"
19:14.15Shirik|Ecolelol
19:14.16Mr_Rabies2it's a possibility that he can add it as is
19:14.21Mr_Rabies2without any changes
19:14.22PolarinaMr_Rabies2: I'm open for suggestions.
19:14.32Mr_Rabies2i'll get ahold of the author and see if at all possible
19:14.34PolarinaMr_Rabies2: Add it to the features part in my portal?
19:14.40Shirik|EcoleMr_Rabies: What exactly does GarbageFu do anyway?
19:14.53Mr_Rabies2sells/destroys stuff you don't want on command
19:15.05Mr_Rabies2also, lists items by sell value
19:15.07weablists it in a convenient way by price
19:15.10Mr_Rabies2you can filter stuff out too
19:15.12Shirik|Ecoleand
19:15.15Shirik|Ecolewhy is that a fubar module :./
19:15.27Mr_Rabies2because he wrote it as a fubar module probably
19:15.33Mr_Rabies2chances are it doesn't need fubar
19:15.39Shirik|Ecolethat's why I'm confused
19:15.40Shirik|Ecolebut w/e
19:15.53weabi don't think any fubar module requires fubar
19:15.58weabunless its coded poorly
19:16.05Shirik|Ecolewell
19:16.10Shirik|Ecoleif you want it to show up on the bar
19:16.19weabobviously.
19:16.20Shirik|EcoleI just don't understand the purpose of garbagefu being on the bar
19:16.23Shirik|Ecolethat's my point
19:16.23Mr_Rabies2http://www.wowace.com/wiki/FuBar_GarbageFu
19:16.30Mr_Rabies2it doesn't -have- to be
19:16.38Mr_Rabies2it puts a  button on the vendor frame
19:16.42Mr_Rabies2a recycle bin
19:16.45Mr_Rabies2and it sells it
19:16.47weabit shows you at a glance what the most worthless item is in your inventory
19:16.47Shirik|Ecoleright, but here's what I mean
19:16.49Mr_Rabies2when you click
19:16.56Shirik|Ecolesome things make sense to be on the bar, like LocationFu
19:16.56ThraeThe idea of Fubar / Titan Panel was not only to show information, but reduce Minimap button clutter
19:16.59Shirik|Ecoleor how much gold you have
19:17.02weaband you can quickly reach it to destroy it without having to find it in your bags or open a new window
19:17.02Shirik|Ecolewas it?
19:17.06Mr_Rabies2that's what i use it for
19:17.10Shirik|EcoleI like minimap button clutter :P
19:17.11Mr_Rabies2minimap button clutter reduction
19:17.17Mr_Rabies2my minimap has no buttons atm
19:17.24Mr_Rabies2except mail/lfg/battleground
19:17.30Mr_Rabies2and i'm working on a way to remove those
19:17.32ThraeShirik|Ecole: However, I use GarbageFu as a replacement for BagFu myself, because it can show used space in your bags
19:17.37PolarinaMy minimap has "Zoom In" and "Zoom Out" buttons too.
19:17.42Mr_Rabies2mine doesn't
19:17.44Mr_Rabies2:P
19:17.55Mr_Rabies2i mousewheel scroll it using simpleminimap
19:18.04Mr_Rabies2no time/date
19:18.06Mr_Rabies2or location
19:18.17Mr_Rabies2nothing but the minimap itself most of the time
19:18.27Mr_Rabies2unless i'm lfg/bg queued/have mail
19:18.34Mr_Rabies2or have a lua error
19:18.44ts|skromI <3 garbageFu
19:18.49Mr_Rabies2it's great
19:18.53Mr_Rabies2one of my favorite addons
19:19.01ts|skromabsolutely agree
19:19.15ts|skromand to be honest since I got GarbageFu, my finances overall drastically improved
19:19.20PolarinaI'm all open for suggestions and feedbacks. :)
19:19.34ts|skrombefore I would just ignore all grey stuff if I was full
19:19.46ThraeI wonder...if I make a MUD addon using a hidden chat channel, would people play it...
19:20.03ts|skromthere's levels of recursion there I don't want to consider
19:20.05CairennPolarina: here's my suggestion and feedback - code for yourself, not others, or you'll burn out
19:20.11ts|skromescher would be leaping in his grave
19:20.22ThraeFor additional irony, the MUD would support a text-based card game
19:20.39ts|skrommake sure the text based card bame provides bonuses to your mud character
19:20.45ts|skrombame = game
19:21.05PolarinaCairenn: Of course I do.
19:21.13Cairenn:)
19:21.17Thraets|skrom: http://xkcd.com/244/
19:21.25ts|skromyep haha
19:21.35Cairenn(sorry, just a standard statement from me to "new" coders in the channel)
19:21.46PolarinaCairenn: No problem.
19:22.13ts|skromI just finished a complete box of altoids that I bought this morning
19:22.21ts|skromI'm now curiously strong
19:23.14Mr_Rabies2poptartcat
19:23.17LopeppeppyYou're a sicko, TS|Skrom
19:23.26ts|skromyes but I'm a curiously strong sicko
19:23.34ts|skromdon't make me angry, you wouldn't like me when I'm angry
19:23.42Mr_Rabies2man
19:23.53Mr_Rabies2i need to find people that are willing to pay me to eat spicy things
19:24.18Mr_Rabies2i would eat an entire tin of altoids in one mouthful if someone paid me sufficiently
19:24.27Mr_Rabies2around 20 bucks would probably fit the bill
19:24.36Mr_Rabies2the cinnamon ones, that is
19:24.43ts|skromyou should make sure that they supply the tin as well
19:24.44Mr_Rabies2i mean i could do the mint ones for like 10
19:25.02Lin<PROTECTED>
19:25.05LopeppeppyI'll stick with mint dove.
19:25.17Mr_Rabies2back in my childhood i'd take bets for eating warhead candies
19:25.23ts|skrombrb I'm gonna go breath on people
19:26.05Cairenncog|work rocks!
19:26.08cog|workhttp://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info7496-ForumToCPoster.html
19:26.09Cairennhttp://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info7496-ForumToCPoster.html
19:26.15Mr_Rabies2jinx
19:26.15Cairennlol
19:26.33cog|work:P
19:26.42Linhi cog... I have read you macro howto.. it enlightens me.. Thje problem is tweak whole stuff
19:26.48Kaydeethreebooo .net
19:26.53Kaydeethreecan't use that in wine
19:26.57ScytheBlade1lol holy crap
19:26.59ScytheBlade1That is epic
19:27.07Mr_Rabies2i think i asked most of those myself at some point
19:27.15Lincog|work: funny addon!
19:27.16Mr_Rabies2i ask a lot of questions when i'm unsure about something :P
19:27.34|Jelly|*downloads*
19:27.39cog|workKaydeethree: RAD 4tw
19:27.40Cairennheh, same
19:28.42LopeppeppyI love you, Cogwheel.  *giggle*
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19:32.19Cairennhmmmm, odd, I seem to not have .net 2.0 on here *boggle*
19:32.27Mr_Rabies2you know
19:32.38Cairennmind you, that is changing fast
19:33.06Cairennno, it's REALLY odd, I could have sworn I had it
19:33.08Mr_Rabies2wau uses the .net framework now and installs to some random folder :/
19:33.10sag_ich_nichtgeeez
19:33.18sag_ich_nichtsomeone up for some footy on northrend? :O
19:33.40|Jelly|I almost wanna yell at someone just to use it. lol
19:33.46Cairennheheheh
19:34.17Cairennahhhhhh, that's what's wrong! I've still got the beta of it, lol
19:35.01PolarinaI'm going to play World of Warcraft.
19:35.06Cairennhuh, suppose I should probably remove 1.1 while I'm at it
19:35.15Mr_Rabies2cair, i think it installs ontop of it
19:35.25Cairennnope, tells me I have to uninstall
19:35.28Mr_Rabies2ah okay
19:35.31cog|workhuh
19:35.39cog|worki thought 1.1 was completely separate
19:35.45ScytheBlade1It is
19:35.47Linhttp://xkcd.com/149/  I loved this one!
19:35.48Cairennit is
19:35.50Mr_Rabies2usually ms stuff integrates so much into the OS uninstalling it breaks stuff
19:35.59Cairennbut I don't really think I need it any more
19:36.04Mr_Rabies2like, uninstalling ie or directx is nigh impossible in xp
19:37.26Cairennthe last time I used 1.1 for anything was back doing UI stuff for EQ
19:42.46|Jelly|UI stuff for EQ. /nostalgia
19:43.12Cairennif that gives you nostalgia, you'd like LotRO's UI, it's much the same
19:43.16Cairennall XML
19:43.31|Jelly|I played the beta. It was too much like EQ2 IMO but I did like it.
19:43.39|Jelly|...just too addicted to WoW and my friends in WoW.
19:43.53CairennI haven't played enough EQ2 to compare it, I could never get into it
19:45.12Cairenncog|work: this rocks, completely
19:45.16Industrialfriends in wow /me stares with puppy eyes as happy people walk by
19:46.00|Jelly|I was totally talking about Peppy. :P
19:51.34cog|work:)
19:53.34LopeppeppyStay good, peoples.  I'm off!
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19:59.45|Jelly|http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=1272299799&postId=12718361334&sid=1#5 <-- I feel better
20:00.06cog|work:)
20:00.11amrostupid konqueror. accidentally moved off a pdf I was viewing and now I have to redownload it
20:00.23amrocaches all sorts of useless images but not the one document I really need right now ><
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20:10.22Industrialyay for helping people http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=8133.msg133076#msg133076
20:12.48cog|workKaydeethree: might work in mono...
20:13.50cog|workhmm... nm...
20:14.01cog|worksplitcontainer isn't ready yet...
20:14.36Kaydeethreeugh. I hate getting assist-trained
20:15.59Industrialwhats that
20:16.02Industrialoh
20:16.10|Jelly|Kind of stupid question incoming: Would it be legal to trade Windows product keys so long as neither of them are installed on any machine?
20:16.41Industrialno
20:16.52cog|workI think it's ok if they're retail versions
20:17.02cog|workBut definitely not if they're OEM
20:17.17|Jelly|They would be retail.
20:17.18ts|skromOEM wow keys?
20:17.38cog|workts|skrom: l2r
20:17.50ts|skromyeah yeah
20:18.40ts|skrommy brain is on mint overload atm, it's skipping things left and right.
20:18.55|Jelly|rofl
20:19.14ts|skromwhy is that necro post being bumped still ><
20:20.23LinQuestions about protected functions: I have a stack of party members to Buff. I press keybind to buff the next one, but it isn't in range, can I jump it, put him on bottom of stack and buff the next one?
20:21.50Valaron|WorkHmmmm
20:21.53Valaron|WorkNo
20:22.10cog|worki'd say yes
20:22.20Linyes or no?
20:22.36cog|workall you need is one button with the same number of states as raid members
20:22.55cog|workthen you would use a newstate attribute to move to the next one
20:23.14Linbut there isn't the target protection?
20:23.28LinI cannot change the target, just with a new keypress.
20:23.37cog|workYou don't need to change targets
20:23.53cog|workyou just give the button a unit attribute for each state
20:24.05cog|workand the spell will cast on them
20:24.35cog|workor heck... since you're talking about buffing, you'll be out of combat anyway...
20:24.44cog|workjust use a PreClick handler to change the attribute on the fly
20:24.54ts|skromhttp://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=1272319690&sid=1 sounds a lot like botting to me... what am I missing?
20:25.05cog|workit's not botting
20:25.15ts|skromvoice control of the second account?
20:25.24cog|workemphasis on "control"
20:25.48cog|workas long as you're not automating anything, it's perfectly acceptible
20:25.53ts|skrominteresting
20:26.00ts|skromI know it's not "botting" in the strict sense
20:26.57Linis there bot programs to WoW?
20:27.09cog|workof course
20:27.24cog|workts|skrom: http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=110523370&postId=1104439935&sid=1#1
20:28.52ts|skromreading more about it now
20:29.10ts|skromit looks rather interesting, gonna try it tonight XD
20:29.18Linthat post (voice control) seems bot for me
20:29.34cog|workbots are programs that automate your gameplay
20:29.41cog|workthere is nothing automatic about voice control
20:29.47ts|skromI wonder how that works with two clients, two installs? Only one has the macros setup? I'm just trying to figure out how the voice commander program doesn't interfere with your primary window
20:29.55cog|workunless you program your voice control software to do multiple things per voice command
20:29.58Cidethe only part that struck me as automatic was that "goes through a sequence of casts" sentence
20:30.13Industrial~seen Tuller
20:30.19purltuller <n=chatzill@c-76-27-166-119.hsd1.va.comcast.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 4d 17h 57m 48s ago, saying: 'at least, not the item part'.
20:31.05Lincog|work: how he voice control the character?
20:31.11Lincog|work: seems a FAKE post
20:31.23Thunder_Childthere is a program
20:31.31Thunder_Childperfectly leagal
20:31.35cog|workLin: there are many programs that let you give voice commands to your computer
20:31.37Lincog|work: I know about botting.. I have done a lot of development in perl to bot in ragnarok.
20:31.51Lincog|work: yeah.. as.. bliz that noob for me
20:31.54cog|workall it does is translate voice commands to key/mouse input
20:32.17cladhaireexcept for the kill it command
20:32.19Lincog|work: or HEAL ME!!!
20:32.21cladhairewhich runs a sequence of commands
20:32.23cladhairewhich is botting.
20:32.48Lincog|work: I can do mind control... just have to do some typing before ;-)
20:33.08mikmavoice commander or so
20:33.10Lincog|work: nothing agains botting, botter or bots at all.
20:33.23Linmikma: where can I find this magical voice commander?
20:33.31mikmacurse.com
20:33.34ts|skromhttp://wow.curse.com/downloads/details/7605/
20:33.42ts|skromI happened to be looking at it right then ;-)
20:33.53mikmats|skrom: nice :)
20:33.53Linand it really works?
20:34.05mikmait really works
20:34.08Lincan I voice control my own char as: Heal me.
20:34.09mikmahttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Dt215PuQew
20:34.14LinI will
20:34.15mikmayeap. look at the video
20:34.17ts|skromI'm gonna play with it tonight. I've still got wow on my old computer but kvm'ing to it is a pain
20:34.28Linwow.. that should be fun.
20:35.16ts|skromokay bye all, quitting time
20:35.36mikmacheck the video i pasted :) it's from the curse page and it's a neat demonstration
20:36.23LinUNBELIVEABLE!!
20:36.38LinREALY AMAZING
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20:38.00Linkill?
20:38.08Linwhat kill does?
20:38.18cog|workLin: it was hypothetical
20:38.33mikmaLin: targets your target and uses spell to kill it"
20:39.54Lincog|work: it wasn't the "bot" has cast a spell.
20:40.23Lejwow german Mograine, scary
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20:45.08Shirik"ERAU Bookstore #115 in the amount of $160.17. If this transaction was authorized, press 1" what a horribly annoying system
20:45.22ShirikI'd be ok if it was just once or twice, but they had me verify like 10 transactions, takes forever ><
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20:57.23Kaydeethree"oh noes... the PTR is down. I must go post on the forum asking why the PTR is down."
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20:59.22bleeterKaydeethree: y iz da ptr duwn? I DEMAND MY WRITEZ!
20:59.52Kaydeethreeno new PTR patch yet... I've been checking every 15 minutes
20:59.54cladhairezomg pre-mades on the ptr kpls why can i copy how do i play
21:00.54Shirik~lart cladhaire
21:00.54purlsmacks cladhaire up side the head with a clue-by-4
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21:03.18bleeterwutz it 4?
21:04.49bleeterfriend of guy over roads goldfishs mums neighbours schoolfirneds cousins doctors told me I go blind if i uze it kplz?
21:04.52Lejbleeter you malodorous box of laughable pigeon bombs
21:05.38bleeter(and now for my all time favourite, not seen nearly enough of the forums, but frequently on IRC...)
21:05.42bleeterHELLO?
21:06.13|Jelly|HAI
21:06.22bleeterit duznt werk
21:06.27bleeteru halp me
21:06.48Lejusually something like:
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21:07.06IrcMonkey923123HELLO, HELP PLEASE?
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21:08.51bleeterk, i've been out-done... i admit i'm a failure at creating random q annoyingircperson nicks in the morning
21:09.05bleeterheya Cairenn
21:09.17Linbleeter: where did you saw the announce of new auctioneer?
21:09.27Cairennhi bleeter
21:09.29bleeterLin: #norganna
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21:16.54Cidanand that's why Shirik is sexy.
21:17.06CidanSo trust me on that.
21:17.07Shirikuh huh
21:17.12Shirikyou know purl logs everything, right?
21:17.13LejHmm, I kinda agree, but not really my taste.
21:17.14ShirikI'm not stupid :P
21:17.17Shirik=(
21:17.22Cidan:D
21:18.53Cairennworks for me though ;)
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21:20.15CidanCairenn, I'm serious though, like, a picture won't do justice.  This man has the most amazing eyes.
21:20.34Cairennsince I've yet to see a picture ....
21:20.38Shirik....
21:21.01cladhairelol
21:21.54ShirikI'm slightly glad I'm in FL now
21:22.01ShirikI can be sure he's not stalking me
21:22.07CidanYou forget
21:22.11CidanI'm from Miami Beach
21:22.20CidanI have many ties down there, up and down
21:22.43Cairennso you're into that, are you Cidan?
21:23.15Cairennand since my hints don't seem to be working - SS!
21:23.35CidanEh, only for some people
21:23.37Cidan:D
21:24.07Lincog|work: Im reading about your CogsBar, is something that Im planning to do using Cidan/Shriek - Conspirary-UI .
21:24.14Shirikwho's archive.org and why are they on my forums
21:24.24Shirikwtf, people can't even spell my name right
21:24.25Industrialpic or Shirik is ugly.
21:24.32Lins/Shriek/Shirik/
21:24.36Shirikow
21:24.38Cidanlol
21:24.39Shirikping spam
21:24.47cog|workshiri
21:24.49cog|workshirik
21:24.53Lincog|work: I have a lot ideas similar yours.
21:24.59Industrialcog|work: whats up with Shirik ?
21:25.07cog|workShirik|AFK: is now afk
21:25.07Industrial=D
21:25.10Shirik|AFKhe's going to a friend's house because you all suck
21:25.19Industrial:(
21:25.20cog|workor because he does?
21:25.21Cairennin your sweetest dreams
21:25.23LinShirik|AFK: bye!! ;-)
21:25.31Shirik|AFKCairenn ><
21:25.32Cidanlol
21:25.32Cidan:D
21:25.35Cidanoh man
21:25.44Cidanthat's hot? :D
21:25.51CairennCidan: come on, you've got to have a pic of him somewhere ....
21:25.54Cairennlet's see these eyes
21:26.00CidanI don't, he never sent one over to me
21:26.10Cairennhe's right, you suck
21:26.20Cairenn;)
21:26.23Cidanonly if you ask nicely, :P
21:26.34Industrialshare! =D
21:29.19IndustrialAnyone on eu/enGB rolling a new char? I need someone to play with! :)
21:29.38CidanenGB?
21:29.55Industrialyes, not german/spanish/french.
21:29.56ThraeI wanted to do something, but EFNet drained me in 5 minutes.
21:30.11CidanThrae, er... come again?
21:30.56CairennThrae: and you are surprised by this ... why?
21:32.51Thrae"<Me> Screw you Microsoft Word, my last name is not misspelt." "<@Op> Given "misspelt", can we really be sure?." "<Me> What?" "<@Op> You misspelled misspelled." "<Me> No I didn't...misspelt is a proper usage of the term." (<@Op> changes topic of conversation)
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21:33.13Cairennlol
21:33.52Cairennand again to you I say - you are surprised by this ... why?
21:34.09Cairennit's EFNet, for pity's sake
21:34.36Industrialbeh, should I make a post somewhere seeking someone to play with?
21:34.45Industrialseems so desperate :|
21:34.51Industrialbut, i guess i am
21:34.55Cidanwow
21:34.57Cidanjust... wow
21:35.02Thrae<Someone Else> What really bugs me lately is when people use 'learnt'.
21:35.27IndustrialCidan: I dont know anyone in wow, or that plays wow. Shocking?
21:35.36Cidanno, not that
21:36.03Cidanat first we used internet dating sites, looking for person to spend time with, etc... now we post to websites looking for virtual partners to play WoW with
21:36.19CidanNot slamming you, just, strange how the world has come to this point.
21:36.40Industrialits just the beginning
21:36.43CidanOne can only wonder what is to come.
21:36.45CidanYeah.
21:37.41Industrialits not really different from going to a club to do something, imo
21:37.58Thrae17:46 < MrMojo> For sale: an antique desk suitable for lady with thick legs and large drawers <-- although you do get gems like this on EFNet
21:38.25Thrae17:47 < MrMojo> Dog for sale: eats anything and is fond of children.
21:38.50CairennThrae: lol, I had that first one in the channel topic here for a while :p
21:39.17Cairennhttp://www.rinkworks.com/said/ads.shtml
21:39.20CidanI stay in EFNet all day my self.
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21:44.05LinCidan: did you have searched for partners to play WoW?
21:44.09Linin internet?
21:44.31Linwhy not just joint the WoW and ask if someone else lives in same city as you.
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21:46.24CidanI do not
21:46.28CidanI play with my girlfriend
21:47.26amroI wonder if detainees in guantanamo are forced to disassemble laptops
21:47.30amroit's such a pain
21:47.38Industrialits fun! :o
21:47.48Thraeamro: Dells are easy, most others are a PITA
21:47.51Industrialits like a puzzle
21:48.06Industrialyou think you are there but theres actually 6 panels in front, 4 hours later.
21:48.49amrothe manual's telling me to lift the heat sink but the heat spreader thingy is clamping it down
21:49.44amroNow I'm completely clueless
21:51.41amroI'm 75% sure it's permanently borked. I wonder if I can use the keyboard elsewhere though
22:00.25amrohttp://www.makezine.com/blog/archive/2006/01/how_to_convert_a_laptop_keyboa.html
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22:15.37Industrialhttp://forums.wow-europe.com/thread.html?topicId=612472455&sid=1
22:15.46amroZOMG it booted! And I thought I broke it beyond repair. /pelvicthrust
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22:20.09Industrialif that gets bumped to page 3 in 1 hour im going to cry
22:22.17amroIndustrial: what's your timezone?
22:22.35IndustrialGMT+1
22:23.39amrooh, same as me. But I might stop playing WoW, I'll get in touch if I decide to keep playing (been meaning to reroll)
22:23.48Industrialok
22:25.25CidanGMT+1?
22:25.32Cidanis that anything like EST?
22:25.35Cidanor something?
22:25.41Cidanis that like in europe?
22:25.50Cidandon't they have magic and dragons over there?
22:26.01IndustrialGMT+1 is CET
22:26.02Cidanyou could like, do real life world of warcraft!!!
22:26.11CidanIndustrial, it's a joke. :P
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22:26.38IndustrialI just wanted to know if you knew what CET was :P
22:33.46Cairennhttp://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=1272320120&sid=1
22:35.41Industrialyour faith in humanity dwindles as you read that =D
22:36.31Industrial... and hten my eye painfully falls on his level.. better then anything ive ever done
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22:40.07Industrialwow
22:40.08Industriallol
22:40.11Industrialthat, is funny.
22:40.21[dRaCo]that sentence is questionable in so many ways I dont even know where to start flaming it.
22:40.33IndustrialLoW-samy: this is not a wow freeshard. This is a wow interface community.
22:40.46Industrialeg, of the official servers.
22:40.48Cairennthank you Industrial
22:41.20Cairennprivate servers aren't supported by this channel, you're in completely the wrong place
22:42.01Industrialdo we have funny channel quotes? this should be in it =D
22:42.09cog|workLoW-samy: reporting your ip to wowhacks@blizzard.com
22:42.11Cairennnot the first time, unfortunately, Industrial
22:42.23Cidanwe had one come in here a week ago or so
22:42.45amro#wowwiki gets even more
22:42.58Cairennthey show up off and on all the time, they quickly learn they aren't welcome though
22:43.34Cairennat least this guy is relatively polite and well spoken, which is a refreshing change
22:43.40CidanTrue
22:44.04LoW-samyyes?
22:44.11Thunder_Childguess not
22:44.12CidanOh goodie.
22:44.25Cairenn*head-> desk*
22:44.39LoW-samyi never play wow and i whant to try
22:44.46cog|workSo get a trial
22:44.48Cidanthen you get a trial account
22:44.50Cairennhang on a sec
22:44.50Cidanit's free
22:45.19Cidanhttps://signup.worldofwarcraft.com/trial/10dayfreetrial.htm
22:45.20deciprivate servers play nothing like live realms, you'd get the wrong idea of how the game is played :P
22:45.34Cairennlol, you guys are quicker than I am, that's where I was heading too
22:45.37Cairennhttp://www.worldofwarcraft.com/burningcrusade/trial/index.html?referrer=WORLDOFWARCRAFT
22:45.48decigroup effort
22:45.48LoW-samyok tnx a lot
22:45.49deci:P
22:45.55Cairenngood luck
22:45.59amroshould refer to the EU trial instead
22:45.59Cidanwe love to love
22:46.23cog|workhe was so bullshitting us...
22:46.29Cairennyup
22:46.36Cairennbut what the hell
22:46.40CidanNo reason to dwell
22:46.48cog|workthat rhymed
22:46.57CidanI do wish LOTRO offered a trial
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22:47.03Cairennthey do
22:47.08CidanI tried it during beta, but it just doesn't... run well
22:47.11Cidanor didn't, anyways
22:47.12Cidando they?
22:47.16Cairennruns just fine
22:47.18CidanI looked for it
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22:47.22staukenhmm 30fps running in a widescreen reso
22:47.23Cairennsure they do, want one?
22:47.29staukenperhaps time to connect the widescreen here
22:47.36CidanAbsolutly, I want to try it again after all these patches
22:47.40CidanSee if it runs any better
22:47.48Cairenngimme your email addy
22:47.57Cidanaj.lobato@gmail.com
22:48.01staukenhmm
22:48.03[dRaCo]yay!
22:48.04[dRaCo]spam!
22:48.10Cidanyay! it's on conspiracy-ui.com
22:48.10Cidan:D
22:48.13CidanSo I don't care
22:48.23staukenI'm real close to installing linux on this machine, too. heheh
22:48.31[dRaCo]yay, conspiracies!
22:48.53Cidanplus I made a mod for Doom 3 a while back
22:48.59CairennCidan: sent
22:49.03Cidan<3<3<3
22:49.24Cairennyou should be getting an email from Turbine shortly
22:49.28Cidangot it already
22:49.39CidanI wonder, let me find my old beta CD
22:49.42Cidanand just patch off that
22:49.46Cidanshould be quicker
22:50.00Cairennif you decide to sign up for it, let me know, I can give you a 30-day game card code for it
22:50.17Cairenn(since I'm a lifetime subscriber and thus don't actually need the free time on my account)
22:50.30CidanI actually pre-ordered it
22:50.35Cidanbut never got it in the end
22:51.27Cidan4 gig download
22:51.31Cidanand my DVD is at my other apt
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22:52.17Cidannot too bad though, 1 1/2 hours
22:53.18Cairennyeah, their download system is a lot better than some I could mention ....
22:53.23Cidanlulz?
22:54.07CidanI'm going to be making this a junk account though, is that okay?  If I decide to sign up, it will be back on my "main" account.
22:54.34Cairennmeh, I don't care
22:55.09CidanI just don't know if you get a bonus or something.... well nevermind, since you have the lifetime option
22:55.22Cairenn(6:49:38 PM) Cairenn: if you decide to sign up for it, let me know, I can give you a 30-day game card code for it
22:55.22Cairenn(6:49:55 PM) Cairenn: (since I'm a lifetime subscriber and thus don't actually need the free time on my account)
22:55.38CidanYeah yeah, Imma dork. :P
22:56.01Cairenn*grin*
22:56.19CidanMainly, that other account has the pre-order cloaks. :D
22:58.28Cidanhuh
22:58.39CidanAcer just gobbled up Gateway
22:58.49CidanNeat, I guess, since Gateway was dying anyways
22:59.48amroI had a Gateway 2000... lost count of how many times I kicked it in frustration
23:00.27Cairenncog|work: if it goes to web-based, doesn't it rather defeat the purpose?
23:00.28Cidanwonder if I should buy some shares...
23:01.21cog|workCairenn: the main point was the easy selection interface and the automatic post generation. That can definitely be accomplished with a web interface.
23:01.39cog|workI doubt i'll do it, but the possibility's out there ;)
23:04.31Cairenntrue enough I suppose
23:05.05cog|workdoes /cancelform not cause a "local cooldown" for going back into a form?
23:05.34[dRaCo]it used to cause a gcd
23:05.43[dRaCo]not anymore on the ptr, though
23:06.28Mr_Rabies2it's not really a cooldown
23:06.31[dRaCo]cancelform, insta heal!
23:06.42Mr_Rabies2you can do that on live
23:06.54[dRaCo]nerf druids.
23:07.01Mr_Rabies2the buttons just lock out clicking so if you're spamming and it's being laggy like it likes to be you won't go cat then back to caster
23:07.11cog|workI understand the cancelform instaheal... what I mean is /cancelform  -> instaheal -> go back into a form
23:07.12Mr_Rabies2GCD is only for shifting in
23:07.27Mr_Rabies2gotta wait on the GCD Codayus
23:07.27Mr_Rabies2er
23:07.28Mr_Rabies2cog|work
23:07.30cog|workand i'm not talking about global...
23:07.34[dRaCo]wont work, since the instaheal causes a gcd
23:07.41[dRaCo]everything else should work fine
23:07.55Mr_Rabies2and you acan't instaheal if you're doing any decent damage anyway :P
23:07.56cog|workok... s/instaheal/potion/ then
23:07.59Mr_Rabies2can't*
23:08.07Mr_Rabies2potions make a GCD too
23:08.20cog|workand you can't change forms when GCD is active?
23:08.26Mr_Rabies2can't go into one
23:08.29Mr_Rabies2can leave one
23:08.44[dRaCo]pretty useless, but cancelform, nature's swiftness, back should work
23:09.11Mr_Rabies2still eats a GCD
23:09.23Mr_Rabies2gotta tap it
23:09.34Mr_Rabies2/cancelform [stance]
23:10.12Mr_Rabies2/cast [nostance] Nature's Swiftness
23:10.15Mr_Rabies2/stopcasting
23:10.36Mr_Rabies2/castsequence [nostance] Healing Touch, Cat Form
23:10.46Mr_Rabies2should work
23:10.52Mr_Rabies2but you have to hit it twice
23:11.31Mr_Rabies2and wait for 1 gcd
23:11.50[dRaCo]caused by the HT, though, not by shifting forms
23:12.23Mr_Rabies2well 2 if you count the one upon shifting into cat
23:12.40[dRaCo]yeah
23:13.51Mr_Rabies2generally speaking you rarely need to leave cat form and NS yourself
23:14.20Mr_Rabies2not to mention most resto druids that are soloing are more likely to be nuking than feraling
23:15.29[dRaCo]sure, but Nature's Swiftness was the only druid spell I could think of not causing a gcd
23:15.40Mr_Rabies2it used to
23:16.04amroI tore apart a feral druid after a 5 minute duel. I felt so badass
23:16.06Mr_Rabies2afaik it's the only one that doesn't
23:16.12Mr_Rabies2what class, amro?
23:16.13amrobandages > lame feral druid heals
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23:16.32[dRaCo]shaman nature's swiftness doesnt cause gcd, too
23:16.33Mr_Rabies2well there's his problem
23:16.37Mr_Rabies2he was trying to heal
23:16.39[dRaCo]s/too/neither/
23:16.46Mr_Rabies2that's because it's the same spell, draco
23:16.54[dRaCo]well, yeah...
23:17.02WobworkI want to try levelling a boomkin
23:17.02[dRaCo]mage's pom
23:17.12Wobworkbut the lack of threat reduction worries me =P
23:17.30amroMr_Rabies2: He kinda had to. the alternative was a 30 second duel
23:17.43[dRaCo]/use 13 /cast pom /cast pyro :D
23:17.44Mr_Rabies2what class are you
23:18.00Mr_Rabies2:/
23:18.18Mr_Rabies2i don't bother healing against any class, it's just a death wish
23:18.22amrohunter
23:18.35Mr_Rabies2i'd have gone bear and stayed up close and personal
23:18.43amrohe got off his heals and shapeshifted again
23:18.54amrojust that I trapped and bandaged and /rofled
23:18.56Mr_Rabies2yeah, leaving bear while fighting a hunter is dumb
23:19.05Mr_Rabies2this druid wasn't too smart it seems
23:19.36Mr_Rabies2i'd have shacked up in tanking gear and just stayed up close and personal
23:19.50amrooh yeah and he eventually tried to run away rofl
23:20.58Mr_Rabies2run away
23:21.00Mr_Rabies2from a hunter
23:21.07Mr_Rabies2what is he daft
23:21.50amromighta worked if he ran away when I marked him from like 50yd instead of coming at me (and the trap of course)
23:22.06Mr_Rabies2running from a hunter is a sure sign of noobishness
23:22.22Mr_Rabies2the only way to run away from a hunter is to run toward a hunter
23:23.29amroI dunno but I felt overpowered since BC
23:24.25amroclasses that used to give me trouble were easy targets
23:26.10Mr_Rabies2druids are easy targets for every one of my characters :x
23:28.37amroI want to play a druid
23:29.09amroat release I pretty much flipped a coin to pick from hunter/druid
23:29.27amrobut druid is more my style, and I'm too lazy to level one
23:30.30Cidan...
23:30.32Cidanhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lj3iNxZ8Dww
23:32.10Cairennwelcome to 6 hrs ago
23:32.35Cidan:(
23:32.44Corrodiasah, druids... so fun!
23:33.10Corrodiasi got pretty damn lucky when i first read the descriptions of the classes and thought "shapeshifting is cool"
23:33.51Corrodiasoh god
23:33.57Corrodiasno, south carolina! NO!
23:34.03Cidanlol
23:34.04Cidanahaha
23:34.05Cidan:D
23:34.05CorrodiasNOOOOOOOOOO
23:34.26Cairennand people wonder why the rest of the world mocks the US?
23:34.29Corrodiasi like the new wowaceupdater
23:34.48CidanCairenn, no, no, not really.
23:35.01Corrodiasas if other wealthy countries don't have beauty pageants with bimbos
23:35.33CidanThey certainly know more than this woman, that is for certain.
23:35.58Corrodiasi'd hope most of us do
23:36.12Corrodiasbut this isn't a case of how much you know, other than that she didn't know the answer
23:36.37Corrodiasi can only suppose that the polls were poorly performed, as i fully expect the US is not that hard to identify on a world map for those of us who live here
23:36.45Corrodiasrather, she was a twit for trying to answer anyway.
23:37.20Corrodiasand she was a dunce for making up something so poor. if you can't lie well, don't lie at all, man.
23:37.23CidanEven so, her answer had nothing to do with much of anything at all
23:37.40Corrodiasi like how she drug south africa into it
23:37.43Corrodiasdragged?
23:37.50|Jelly|What was the question?
23:37.56IndustrialWhats the point of beauty pageants? I put more energy into showing that my life has more value then you, and by doing that its actually not?
23:37.59Cidancheck the youtube link I posted
23:38.04Industrialthen yours*
23:38.24Corrodiasthe point of a beauty pageant is mostly to spend money, i think
23:38.28Corrodiasmuch like dog shows
23:38.43|Jelly|wow...
23:38.57Corrodiasalthough in the case of dog shows, part of the money ends up in the hands of people who are skilled at breeding selective traits into dogs
23:38.58|Jelly|No really...
23:39.00|Jelly|WOW
23:39.04Industrialwhat :P
23:39.09Corrodiasi really don't know where it goes for those things. probably dress designers.
23:39.09Industrialwhat'd i do now =D
23:39.18|Jelly|She didn't even come close to almost answering the question.
23:40.06Cairenn<== raised and showed Chow Chows
23:40.18Industrial>_<
23:41.56Corrodiasi do admit some respect for those who can understand genetics enough to breed very specific dogs
23:42.12|Jelly|I DON'T!
23:42.17TainWe had two different pure bred chows when I was growing up.  We had to get rid of both, they were too aggressive.
23:42.17|Jelly|Ok yeah, I do. :P
23:42.22IndustrialITT: anything positive or negative, GO! http://forums.wow-europe.com/thread.html?topicId=612472455&sid=1
23:42.27Corrodiasnow, if somebody buys such an animal and expects to gain money by showing it to people...
23:43.00Corrodiasbut then, they probably paid a lot to the breeder, so the other people are paying by proxy to the breeder to see this specific kind of dog. apparently, they enjoy it, and whatever turns their crank is okay with me.
23:43.29Industrialpeople pay to see dogs?
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