| 00:01.30 | DT__ | Any ideas? |
| 00:12.37 | clad|afk | you sure you have the event name right? |
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| 00:12.44 | clad|afk | you've verified with /dtevents that its being called? |
| 00:12.47 | Shirik | I don't recognize that event |
| 00:13.15 | Shirik | CHAT_MSG_SPELL_XXX_VS_XXX_MISSES perhaps? |
| 00:17.11 | DT__ | Sorry 'bout the delay hehe, I thought the event name might have been a typo on WoWwiki but I tried RegisterAllEvents() and I couldn't see it that way either |
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| 00:21.09 | DT__ | Checking dtevents now |
| 00:26.32 | DT__ | Could have sworn it was a real event ... Xperl register for it too >.> |
| 00:27.20 | DT__ | registered* |
| 00:28.00 | Shirik | it may be an Ace thing |
| 00:28.03 | Shirik | I know Conspiracy has something similar |
| 00:28.13 | Shirik | we allow you to watch all miss/resist events |
| 00:28.18 | Shirik | instead of having to specify each individually |
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| 00:32.33 | Cairenn | http://wowi.pastey.net/72645 |
| 00:33.11 | Tain | poor kitty |
| 00:33.33 | Thrae | Hehe. Seriously, I've followed #1 with about 90% success rate ;) |
| 00:33.56 | Cairenn | Kirkburn: *points at link* |
| 00:34.20 | Tain | I just try to reason with my cats. |
| 00:35.15 | Shirik | zomg |
| 00:35.17 | Shirik | Cairenn used pastey |
| 00:35.18 | Shirik | impossible |
| 00:35.23 | Shirik | what have you done with Cairenn! |
| 00:35.35 | Cairenn | not the first time Shirik |
| 00:36.39 | Cairenn | would have posted it on WoWI, but since I just finished giving someone shit for posting complete crap alllll the time .... |
| 00:37.28 | Lunessa | Cairenn: lol. I've seen it before, but it makes me chuckle every time. |
| 00:37.40 | Kirkburn | :D |
| 00:40.27 | Lunessa | Should just give the cat some scotch first. |
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| 00:42.33 | Tain | Give me the scotch. |
| 00:46.59 | Lunessa | hell with you. The scotch is MINE. |
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| 00:49.19 | Tain | Here kitty kitty kittty. |
| 00:50.16 | Osagasu | I'm slowly turning someone in my guild into an ACE addict. *cough* |
| 00:50.17 | Shirik | for those that were here when I mentioned the pink elephants at allerian stronghold |
| 00:50.27 | Shirik | I would like to point out that the same is available at stonebreaker hold, just confirmed |
| 00:51.09 | Lunessa | More liquor is needed. |
| 00:52.37 | Tain | No, I already drank too much in a very short time frame tonight. |
| 00:52.39 | Thunder_Child | isnt there really cheap stuff from ogrimar? |
| 00:52.46 | Thunder_Child | err..og'rila |
| 00:52.59 | Shirik | ~lart Osagasu |
| 00:52.59 | purl | beats Osagasu senseless with a 50lb Unix manual |
| 00:53.06 | Shirik | partially because Ace is not an acronym |
| 00:53.23 | Shirik | secondly because, as I'm sure you know, Ace does not make an addon good |
| 00:53.26 | Shirik | an author does |
| 00:53.30 | Osagasu | I know, I know. |
| 00:53.41 | Osagasu | But when the Addons are Cartographer and Omen... |
| 00:53.42 | Osagasu | Yeah. |
| 00:54.11 | Osagasu | And I know full well Ace isn't an acronym. |
| 00:54.21 | Osagasu | I just do it to tick people off. ;) |
| 00:54.29 | Tain | Poor Ace. |
| 00:55.13 | JoshBorke | poor professor higgins |
| 00:55.19 | JoshBorke | night and day he slaves away |
| 00:55.21 | JoshBorke | poor professor higgins |
| 00:55.45 | Osagasu | AuldLangSyne confuses me. |
| 00:56.16 | Osagasu | Why does it color the guild frame with class colors on the side that shows the classes... not not the other? *ponder* |
| 00:56.35 | JoshBorke | s/not/but/ |
| 00:56.43 | Osagasu | I hate you. |
| 00:58.10 | mikma | we hate him too |
| 00:58.15 | Kyahx | shut up mikma |
| 00:58.26 | JoshBorke | everybody loves joshua |
| 00:58.34 | mikma | Kyahx: make me |
| 00:58.37 | Osagasu | Well I don't. >:( |
| 00:58.39 | JoshBorke | purl, gag mikma |
| 00:58.40 | purl | ACTION takes away the voice of mikma and, as an additional precaution, sews mikma's mouth shut permanently... |
| 00:58.57 | mikma | no, that didn't do it |
| 00:59.00 | JoshBorke | seems pretty effective, i don't hear anybody |
| 00:59.02 | JoshBorke | do you kyahx? |
| 00:59.10 | Kyahx | No |
| 00:59.41 | mikma | so it's true. masturbation makes you go blind. gj boys |
| 01:00.00 | JoshBorke | kyahx: you should try TimeBlock, it's pretty kick ass :-P |
| 01:00.07 | Kyahx | I don't play wow anymore |
| 01:00.11 | JoshBorke | oh, nvm then |
| 01:00.34 | Kyahx | but when I did, I sure loved my TimeBlock! |
| 01:00.38 | Kyahx | (here, have a shameless plug) |
| 01:00.52 | mikma | so i think he quit 20mins ago |
| 01:01.14 | Kyahx | I haven't logged in in a good week =X |
| 01:01.22 | Kyahx | Been too busy playing other games! |
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| 01:02.56 | JoshBorke | cool |
| 01:03.25 | Thunder_Child | "(17:59:43) (mikma) so it's true. masturbation makes you go blind. gj boys" if that were true women would rule the world |
| 01:03.55 | mikma | well all i can say to that is "they do it too, you know" ;D |
| 01:04.28 | Thunder_Child | but if going blind were true *they* would be able to hold off |
| 01:04.57 | mikma | deep. really, really deep :D |
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| 01:06.04 | Thunder_Child | i'm sure there is a dirty joke in there, but i'm to lazy to make it |
| 01:06.29 | JoshBorke | why are you talking to yourself TC? |
| 01:06.42 | AnduinLothar | i do it all the time |
| 01:07.01 | JoshBorke | AnduinLothar: what? masturbate? |
| 01:07.05 | JoshBorke | i really didn't need to know that |
| 01:07.10 | AnduinLothar | well, that too |
| 01:07.23 | AnduinLothar | but that's not to what i was refering |
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| 01:08.58 | Thunder_Child | yes JoshBorke, i was |
| 01:09.52 | JoshBorke | oh, ok, so it was a form of online masturbation then |
| 01:10.41 | Tain | Online sexual gratification via text? Who would do such a thing? |
| 01:11.06 | JoshBorke | Tain: you. you would. |
| 01:11.41 | Tain | There is almost no proof of that. |
| 01:11.54 | Thunder_Child | JoshBorke...no, talking to myslef |
| 01:12.59 | JoshBorke | Tain: luckily i have procured some proof through not so legal means |
| 01:13.34 | Thunder_Child | s/myslef/myself/ |
| 01:13.39 | Tain | Ehn, these things happen. |
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| 01:19.38 | Cairenn | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:20.23 | JoshBorke | erm? |
| 01:20.36 | JoshBorke | purl, gently hug Cairenn |
| 01:20.46 | Shirik | there is no gently! |
| 01:20.51 | Shirik | hugging is a binary action |
| 01:20.54 | JoshBorke | there is no spork! |
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| 01:23.23 | Guillotine | sporks are spooky. both fork and spoon yet neither |
| 01:24.36 | Shirik | wow |
| 01:24.40 | Shirik | that's deep |
| 01:24.47 | JoshBorke | too deep for me |
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| 01:35.42 | Shirik | WOW netbeans 5.5 is nice |
| 01:35.45 | Shirik | just updated =) |
| 01:35.52 | Thunder_Child | netbeans? |
| 01:36.03 | Shirik | a nice IDE, I use it for Java personally |
| 01:36.05 | Shirik | but it has other modules as well |
| 01:36.23 | Shirik | it's probably one of the nicest IDEs I've worked with |
| 01:36.46 | Thunder_Child | i'm sure it likes you to |
| 01:36.52 | Shirik | oh it does, trust me |
| 01:36.55 | Shirik | just my hard drive doesn't |
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| 01:47.56 | Thunder_Child | ~moo |
| 01:47.56 | purl | mooooooooo! I am cow, hear me moo, I weigh twice as much as you. I am cow, eating grass, methane gas comes out my ass, or http://www.linuks.mine.nu/moo/ and http://www.riddleme.com/html/cow2.html |
| 02:02.19 | Shirik | grrr |
| 02:02.24 | Shirik | Java is really pissing me off atm |
| 02:02.37 | Corrodias | hunter asks if the RL wants him to pull NOW |
| 02:02.42 | Corrodias | RL says, "yes" |
| 02:02.43 | Shirik | if you have a byte[], and you want it to be a string, and there exists a String constructur String(byte[]) |
| 02:02.46 | Corrodias | "in a second" |
| 02:03.00 | Corrodias | he got no second :) |
| 02:03.00 | Shirik | Then you should be able to do String s = foo |
| 02:03.06 | Shirik | Not String s = new String(foo) |
| 02:03.13 | Shirik | Corrodias: Had that happen to me beofre :P |
| 02:03.20 | Shirik | Raid leader's fault for not knowing english imo |
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| 02:06.00 | Thunder_Child | yea, qualifires can be bad |
| 02:06.06 | Thunder_Child | err..however you spell it |
| 02:06.48 | Corrodias | agreed |
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| 02:15.35 | Kyahx | *gasp* I found an album that oink dosen't have! |
| 02:15.44 | Kyahx | and Im not a power user so I can't request it :( |
| 02:16.19 | Cidan | man |
| 02:16.29 | Cidan | my friend in Canada just got his apt broken into |
| 02:16.36 | Kyahx | suck :/ |
| 02:16.36 | Cidan | they took his PSP, PS2, Gamecube, and all the games |
| 02:16.46 | Cidan | but they left his 2000+ dollar PC there |
| 02:17.30 | Kyahx | Well, that's better than it could have been I suppose |
| 02:18.21 | Mr_Rabies2 | kyahx |
| 02:18.23 | Mr_Rabies2 | what album |
| 02:18.31 | Mr_Rabies2 | i may request it if it's halfway decent |
| 02:18.43 | Kyahx | Its probley not :P |
| 02:19.09 | Kyahx | "Bone to Pick" by 'The Gone Jackals' -- their music was used for the old PC game 'Full Thorottle' :P |
| 02:19.14 | cogwheel | home invasion or was he out? |
| 02:19.16 | Kyahx | and apparently they never got big (obviously) |
| 02:24.48 | Lunessa | http://www.bash.org/?796356 |
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| 03:03.18 | Shirik | Kaydeethree: ping |
| 03:03.23 | Kaydeethree | pong |
| 03:03.37 | Shirik | hey um.... are you sure those fonts you linked are GPL 2 compatible? |
| 03:03.51 | Kaydeethree | ya |
| 03:04.04 | Shirik | because they use a "GPL+exception" license |
| 03:04.15 | Shirik | which is against the GPL clause that no components may add restrictions |
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| 03:04.55 | Kaydeethree | "Using these fonts does not subject your documents to the GPL--it liberates them from any proprietary claim." |
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| 03:05.20 | Shirik | ah |
| 03:05.24 | herzogthc | woo lag |
| 03:05.25 | herzogthc | wasup shirik |
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| 03:05.36 | Shirik | thanks Kaydeethree |
| 03:05.40 | Kaydeethree | np |
| 03:05.41 | Shirik | hi herzogthc |
| 03:05.57 | herzogthc | Kaydeethree: Your nick supposed to represent KDE in leeetspeak? :) |
| 03:06.01 | Kaydeethree | no |
| 03:06.08 | herzogthc | aww ohwell I was hoping heh |
| 03:06.15 | herzogthc | noone seems to like KDE like I do |
| 03:06.20 | herzogthc | beryl and compiz are too bloated |
| 03:06.26 | Kaydeethree | xfce <3 |
| 03:06.33 | herzogthc | so i don't even wanna know what their bastard offspring looks like |
| 03:06.37 | herzogthc | WM2 is workable |
| 03:06.42 | Kaydeethree | I don't even run a compositing manager, it takes cpu cycles away from wow |
| 03:06.50 | herzogthc | lol you're running wow thru wine? |
| 03:06.55 | Kaydeethree | yup |
| 03:06.58 | herzogthc | that's awesome |
| 03:07.02 | herzogthc | good framerate? |
| 03:07.10 | Kaydeethree | as good as my pos 5200fx can give me |
| 03:07.12 | Shirik | very good actually |
| 03:07.18 | Shirik | it's better than Windows can manage |
| 03:07.38 | herzogthc | ah i don't wanna hafta format my vista machine but it's so totally gettin dumped for F7 this weekend |
| 03:07.40 | herzogthc | actually |
| 03:07.48 | herzogthc | prob just dualboot it |
| 03:07.51 | Kaydeethree | f7 <3 |
| 03:08.11 | Shirik | wb cladhaire |
| 03:08.16 | cladhaire | o hia |
| 03:08.39 | herzogthc | yes you can has bak? |
| 03:11.28 | Rallion | i upgraded ur ram. |
| 03:12.40 | Bleeter | be aware that there are audio issues for WoW in Wine with the 2.2 patch as it stands at the moment... don't totally dump your Win32 environment yet, it may not get solved upon release |
| 03:12.52 | Osagasu | Im in ur PCz, ungrdng ur RAM?! |
| 03:13.07 | Bleeter | we're kinda hoping that the next PTR may solve the random Vista crashy errors/audio errors, and that these are related |
| 03:13.47 | Rallion | Vista crashy errors? :( |
| 03:14.01 | Rallion | I've not been keeping up on PTR news |
| 03:14.14 | Bleeter | search the PTR forum for 'vista' and '132' |
| 03:14.25 | herzogthc | I started a sick trend :( |
| 03:14.34 | Bleeter | 132's the code error that WoW 2.2 will eventually throw (after failing to initialise sound and hanging for around 5 mins) |
| 03:14.40 | Bleeter | *under wine |
| 03:14.50 | Bleeter | hence, the vague guess that the issues are possibly related |
| 03:15.10 | Rallion | wait...wait. is 132 the 'we dunno what happened' error that used to be so common back around release time? |
| 03:15.25 | Bleeter | address cannot be read |
| 03:15.34 | Bleeter | so, yeah.. pretty much 'nfi' ;) |
| 03:15.35 | Rallion | yeah, i think that's it. |
| 03:15.42 | Rallion | damn. |
| 03:15.52 | Rallion | i used to get those sometimes...like...years ago |
| 03:16.18 | Rallion | it was fairly common back in the day |
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| 03:17.05 | Bleeter | the vista and wine issues may well not be related at all, but given there's audio playback issues under vista as well, it's a reasonable guess that maybe a new ptr build might fix stuff... there's also the possibility that it's in fact an fmod bug, which isn't under blizz's control |
| 03:17.10 | Bleeter | well, not direct control |
| 03:17.24 | Bleeter | and this might somehow be tripping stuff up... basically, in a nutshell, it ain't pretty ;) |
| 03:18.02 | Bleeter | http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=9386 |
| 03:18.38 | Rallion | an fmod bug would be all kinds of balls. |
| 03:20.01 | Bleeter | one was spotted a little while ago, where there was a chance of, I think it was, a double init which could throw stuff badly. the filemod time of the current ptr fmod would indicate that the fix might have gone in, but it's only about one or two days after fmod said they fixed their code, so there's a chance it didn't |
| 03:20.32 | Bleeter | once again.. /shrug... kinda really all up in the air until the next PTR build, which a Blue on the PTR forum indicated was going to be coming out and included some EAX reverb fix |
| 03:20.43 | Bleeter | further leading me to believe that they're doing more audio work as we speak ;) |
| 03:21.11 | Rallion | according to the blue sticky on PTR forums, there's a sound-related 132 that's being fixed and an Athlon-related one that's under investigation |
| 03:21.33 | Rallion | and the sound bug is a problem in fmodex.dll |
| 03:21.59 | Bleeter | hence we're prolly not going to get much action on the Wine side until we're pretty certain that the application's as near as final as possible... but as BLizz will never let us WoW Winers know of this stuff, 'coz we're unsupported, it'll prolly be in private patches until the Wine release after 2.2 goes live |
| 03:22.21 | Bleeter | I'll be endavouring to keep the WoWWiki.com/Linux/Wine and the Wine AppDB updated when and if any fix is found. |
| 03:22.57 | Bleeter | aye, fmodex.dll... I keep forgetting there's two .dll's from them, I just think of the company instead ;) |
| 03:23.50 | Rallion | hah! the guy who made a patch to 'fix' widescreen view area in Bioshock is getting a free video card from the devs. |
| 03:23.58 | Rallion | that's pretty sweet |
| 03:24.06 | Corrodias | nice |
| 03:24.10 | Rallion | he just moved the camera back a few inches. |
| 03:24.27 | Corrodias | thinking outside the box and all |
| 03:24.39 | Corrodias | that damn BXO |
| 03:24.42 | Corrodias | BOX! omg. |
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| 03:27.17 | Shirik | WoW... is loading... so slow... |
| 03:29.53 | Rallion | coolest pens ever: http://www.2kgames.com/cultofrapture/features/perks/pen.jpg |
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| 03:31.12 | cogwheel | Rallion: my wife has a pen like that but florescent green... It came with some horror movie DVD from taiwan that my boss bought. |
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| 03:32.31 | Lunessa | g'night. I'm going to take my Vista not recognizing self home and play WoW until 2am |
| 03:33.42 | JoshBorke | AnduinLothar: <3 |
| 03:33.49 | JoshBorke | someone fill me in! |
| 03:34.07 | AnduinLothar | ? |
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| 03:36.43 | Rallion | I have to decide whether to play WoW or Bioshock right now |
| 03:37.14 | Rallion | I'm tired, which pushes me towards WoW, but....it's Bioshock. It's ridiculous. I freeze people then hit them with a wrench. |
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| 03:38.13 | Rallion | Also, I have a crossbow that can fire incindiary bolts and also electric tripwires. |
| 03:39.43 | Corrodias | now to try to track down my friend on his pvp realm |
| 03:39.51 | Corrodias | i THINK i have his name around here somewhere |
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| 03:52.37 | Shirik|zZz | night clad|sleep |
| 03:52.48 | clad|sleep | night |
| 03:52.52 | Cairenn | night clad |
| 03:53.07 | Tierrie | omg claddy go zzzz |
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| 04:11.15 | Cairenn | night guys |
| 04:11.19 | Thunder_Child | night Cairenn |
| 04:11.32 | Thunder_Child | ~sarcasim Cairenn|afk |
| 04:12.01 | ckknight | sarcasm |
| 04:12.12 | Thunder_Child | yes, ty |
| 04:12.22 | Thunder_Child | ~sarcasm Cairenn|afk |
| 04:12.28 | Thunder_Child | bah |
| 04:12.51 | ckknight | ~console Thunder_Child |
| 04:12.52 | purl | ACTION gives Thunder_Child the consolation moose |
| 04:28.19 | Guillotine | bwahaha |
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| 04:28.30 | Guillotine | guild MOTD doesn't strip anything when done through a pure script command |
| 04:28.51 | Guillotine | so you can immitate rolls/whispers/ect with it |
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| 04:33.07 | Shirik|zZz | Guillotine: You can set the gmotd to anything, and it doesn't care? |
| 04:33.21 | Guillotine | it replaces \ with |
| 04:33.26 | Guillotine | with \\ when done the normal way |
| 04:33.29 | Guillotine | but doesn't when through a script |
| 04:33.32 | Guillotine | and no, it won't d/c you for anything |
| 04:34.14 | [Liquidor] | Guillotine, give me an example of a prank :) |
| 04:34.33 | Guillotine | (off the top of my head, but it should work) |
| 04:34.52 | Shirik|zZz | what's the function to set? |
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| 04:35.30 | [Liquidor] | Shirik|zZz, go wiki :) |
| 04:35.37 | Shirik|zZz | I already did |
| 04:35.42 | Shirik|zZz | I was trying to avoid tha tstep, but Guillotine is slow |
| 04:36.04 | Guillotine | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:36.18 | Guillotine | obviously you could do it with rolls and whispers too |
| 04:36.25 | [Liquidor] | GuildSetMOTD |
| 04:36.26 | Guillotine | but I don't feel like looking up the exact color codes those use |
| 04:36.26 | [Liquidor] | ye |
| 04:37.06 | [Liquidor] | Guillotine, I think there are variables for some of the colors |
| 04:37.13 | Guillotine | ya |
| 04:37.25 | Guillotine | you can also make a link that, when clicked, d/cs them |
| 04:38.15 | [Liquidor] | Uhm |
| 04:39.54 | Guillotine | you could actually use it for something useful as well |
| 04:39.59 | [Liquidor] | /script GuildSetMOTD("Kara tonight everyone!\n\124cffff0000Hello" .. UnitName("Player") .. ". This is Liquidor on your account - Please get close to a mailbox so I can leech your gold. Thank you! \124r") |
| 04:40.23 | Guillotine | that would replace it with your name of the char you're on |
| 04:40.32 | Guillotine | it evaluates the string when setting it |
| 04:40.37 | Guillotine | and sets it to pure text |
| 04:40.44 | [Liquidor] | Eh what? |
| 04:40.46 | [Liquidor] | oh |
| 04:40.47 | [Liquidor] | ye |
| 04:40.48 | [Liquidor] | -.- |
| 04:41.00 | [Liquidor] | well it's 6:30 and I haven't slept yet |
| 04:41.00 | Shirik|zZz | I like our new GMOTD |
| 04:41.07 | Shirik|zZz | it's similar to what [Liquidor] just said actually |
| 04:41.34 | Guillotine | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:41.35 | Shirik|zZz | it has the old GMOTD, with an addition "[SYSTEM] Your account has been haxed by Kimina and will be shut down in 5 seconds. Thank you for playing World of Warcraft" |
| 04:41.48 | Shirik|zZz | in the appropriate color |
| 04:42.14 | Shirik|zZz | Guillotine: That /is/ a good use |
| 04:42.24 | Guillotine | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:42.25 | Guillotine | actually |
| 04:42.29 | Guillotine | forgot to close the color code |
| 04:42.58 | Rallion | sweet crap |
| 04:43.10 | cogwheel | hmm... "BioShock is the "genetically enhanced" first person shooter that lets you do things never before possible in the genre: ..." Deus Ex let you do everything they list but one... |
| 04:43.28 | Rallion | cogwheel, was the one killing little girls? |
| 04:43.40 | cogwheel | no... crafting new ammo variants... |
| 04:43.41 | Kaydeethree | heh... the bioshock forums are reading like general right now due to the secu-rom/activation crap |
| 04:43.43 | Shirik|zZz | cogwheel: They didn't lie! |
| 04:43.57 | Shirik|zZz | one new thing is more than zero |
| 04:43.58 | Kaydeethree | bitch bitch bitch bitch and the fanbois defending them |
| 04:44.01 | [Liquidor] | Shirik|zZz, You'd better do.... |
| 04:44.07 | Rallion | heh, cogwheel, that can be redundant, anyway, you can find a bunch of the 'crafted-only' ammo just lying around |
| 04:44.50 | Rallion | but as much as I adore Deus Ex (and hate hate hate the sequel) Bioshock definitely FEELS better when you do all the stuff |
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| 04:45.00 | Rallion | still, it lacks some of the depth |
| 04:45.02 | [Liquidor] | "[SYSTEM] Your account has been compromised by Kimina and will be closed down for investigation - Please logout and wait for further notice.. Thank you for playing World of Warcraft" |
| 04:45.08 | cogwheel | i'm not bitching... i actually really liked the bit i saw :P |
| 04:45.09 | [Liquidor] | -down |
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| 04:45.20 | cogwheel | i was just turned off by the description *after* i played a bit |
| 04:45.24 | Rallion | right |
| 04:45.51 | Shirik|zZz | perfect [Liquidor]! |
| 04:45.53 | Rallion | i don't really pay attention to sentences like that one anymore |
| 04:45.58 | Guillotine | Liquidor: make sure nobody in your guild would report you for that, even as a joke. Blizz gets mad if you pretend to be them :/ |
| 04:46.01 | Guillotine | I know that from experience |
| 04:46.17 | cogwheel | it was kind of funny... The art deco look and the plot reminded me of Atlas Shrugged. Then the guy came on the radio... busted up laughing |
| 04:46.18 | [Liquidor] | Guillotine, same :) |
| 04:46.24 | Rallion | hehe :) |
| 04:46.27 | Guillotine | was playing around with a friend and we were both trying stuff and we both get temporary suspensions without either reporting o.O |
| 04:46.32 | Guillotine | and it was all through whispers |
| 04:46.36 | Kemayo | Osagasu: Because the guild stuff isn't finished, quite. |
| 04:47.16 | Rallion | Ijust opened the vista search box, typed 'world', hit enter, and expected WoW to load up...no. I just installed FF8 PC, and it's weird Chocobo World program ran instead. |
| 04:47.40 | Guillotine | lol |
| 04:48.11 | Rallion | it's like a 75x75 window with a black and white 2-frame animation of a chocobo walking |
| 04:48.18 | Rallion | wiht music |
| 04:48.22 | Rallion | it freaked me out |
| 04:52.24 | Guillotine | then at some point you replace the link on the useful one with a bogus item link and d/c everyone >.> |
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| 04:54.44 | JunkHead-Work | Morning |
| 04:57.01 | cogwheel | wow... i hadn't even seen any of the hype of bioshock but now am seeing all these articles tying it to Ayn Rand's work >< |
| 04:57.11 | cogwheel | guess my first impression was on the money |
| 04:57.21 | Rallion | cogwheel, it's extremely objectivist, yes |
| 04:57.49 | Rallion | I first thought of The Fountainhead myself, though ;) |
| 04:58.23 | cogwheel | Haven't read that one yet, but the statue in the building sure reminded me of its cover... |
| 04:59.26 | Rallion | yep :P |
| 05:00.48 | Rallion | i'm at least halfway through the game and the Little Sisters still really freak me out |
| 05:00.53 | Rallion | really. |
| 05:01.10 | Guillotine | anybody know of a good free FPS game? |
| 05:01.32 | cogwheel | not many good games are free beyond silly puzzles |
| 05:01.56 | Rallion | yeah, free FPS is tough |
| 05:02.15 | Rallion | what makes an FPS good is the content, and content is almost never free |
| 05:06.35 | Tierrie | living alone makes me a sad puppy |
| 05:07.00 | dre^ | I would argue that what makes an fps good is solid online multiplayer action |
| 05:07.16 | dre^ | quake3 never had much in the way of content, but is still massively popular for online play |
| 05:07.47 | cogwheel | i'm with Rallion on this one :P |
| 05:07.48 | dre^ | the new UrbanTerrorIO distribution of the open source q3 engine + the urban terror mod is fantastic, and free |
| 05:07.59 | dre^ | er, IOUrbanTerror rather |
| 05:08.25 | dre^ | not everybody is a fast twitch junkie though :) |
| 05:09.20 | Rallion | None of my favorite FPS games even have multiplayer P |
| 05:09.31 | cogwheel | I love dropping out of the sky and charging... i'm like gnomish death from above > : D |
| 05:09.53 | Rallion | the only multiplayer FPS I ever really likes was UT2k4 |
| 05:10.03 | Rallion | my typing's starting to go downhill. |
| 05:10.08 | cogwheel | i played quakeworld a lot when i was in HS |
| 05:11.23 | Rallion | my favorites are things like System Shock 2 (and now Bioshock), Deus Ex, Resident Evil 4 which isn't an FPS but it might as well be, HL2, but only the single player... |
| 05:12.02 | cogwheel | Deus Ex is the only FPS i've played from start to finish without cheats |
| 05:12.14 | cogwheel | oh... and Deus Ex: Invisible War :P |
| 05:12.22 | cogwheel | Normally i don't have the attention span... |
| 05:13.04 | Rallion | Actually I really liked the action game set in the Deus Ex universe |
| 05:13.09 | Rallion | um |
| 05:13.11 | Rallion | Snowblind |
| 05:13.34 | cogwheel | huh... i've never heard of that actually |
| 05:13.34 | Rallion | I think that game had multiplayer, but I bet it sucked :P |
| 05:13.52 | Rallion | it's an FPS, but fast paced |
| 05:14.02 | Rallion | and with Deus Ex-like powers |
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| 05:14.43 | Rallion | also, a lot of security systems and the like |
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| 05:32.41 | cogwheel | "/me dances with you." is almost as good as that harp... |
| 05:36.10 | Wobwork | I have the same problem with a lot of fps |
| 05:36.17 | Wobwork | they end up being godmode games for me |
| 05:36.23 | Wobwork | cause I don't have the patience |
| 05:36.28 | Wobwork | and I just want to see the plot |
| 05:41.17 | Shirik|zZz | who here knows PHP pretty well? |
| 05:41.21 | Shirik|zZz | anyone? |
| 05:48.21 | Thunder_Child | #php? |
| 05:48.48 | Wobwork | What do you need? |
| 05:49.39 | Shirik|zZz | Thunder_Child: It's not really important enough to go there, I was just curious on this topic |
| 05:49.59 | Shirik|zZz | I'm looking at my phpinfo page, and I see a _SERVER variable named HTTP________________ |
| 05:50.06 | Shirik|zZz | with a value "------------------" |
| 05:50.12 | Shirik|zZz | and I just want to know what the heck it is |
| 05:51.20 | Wobwork | that's a lot of _'s |
| 05:52.07 | Wobwork | http://ha.ckers.org/blog/20061127/detecting-symantec-client-firewall/ |
| 05:52.22 | Shirik|zZz | Wobwork: And it's a copy and paste >.> |
| 05:52.35 | Shirik|zZz | oh |
| 05:52.38 | Shirik|zZz | interesting, thanks |
| 05:52.50 | Wobwork | hehe batshit crazy if you ask me =) |
| 05:53.29 | Shirik|zZz | I don't see any good reason to mask that actually |
| 05:53.39 | Shirik|zZz | as the writer says in that post |
| 06:04.20 | [Liquidor] | Shirik|zZz, neither a reason to worry about it |
| 06:08.42 | art3mis | maybe they're doing it because they suck? |
| 06:09.27 | art3mis | and i kind of hate software firewalls |
| 06:09.36 | art3mis | if they get past my router im already in trouble |
| 06:10.09 | art3mis | and if they're planning on DoS'ing the software firewall isnt gonna do much since the packet already has touched the computer and has responded x crazy amounts |
| 06:10.56 | art3mis | if they have a upnp exploit that means they're already on your box in the first palce and have either disabled or allowed thier port in your firewall as well |
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| 06:47.01 | Bleeter | k folks, I've been accepted as a maintainer for Wine WoW 2.2 bugs ;) :D |
| 06:48.03 | Wobwork | woohoo! |
| 06:48.07 | Wobwork | grats bleeter =) |
| 06:48.12 | Wobwork | now we know who to bug |
| 06:48.31 | Bleeter | nah, I'm the traffic cop mate... not the judge 'n jury ;) |
| 06:48.50 | Wobwork | "Redirect that bug faster, bleeter!" |
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| 07:03.27 | dre^ | people play wow in linux via wine? cool! |
| 07:03.47 | dre^ | I bet that's ideal for gaming cafes... |
| 07:04.07 | dre^ | much much easier to herd linux machines than windows machines, I find :) |
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| 07:06.30 | art3mis | hehe as long as we're not 2.2 yet ;P |
| 07:07.28 | Bleeter | dre^: http://www.wowwiki.com/Linux/Wine |
| 07:11.20 | art3mis | so when bugs dont get fixed and get moved or closed without resolution we bitch at you right? |
| 07:11.30 | art3mis | ;) |
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| 07:14.52 | Bleeter | art3mis: something like that ;) |
| 07:15.11 | Iriel | My life is complete, i've seen "The Internet is for Porn" performed live. |
| 07:15.24 | Bleeter | art3mis: but seriously, I'm really waiting for the next PTR build before I start razzing up the Wine guys |
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| 07:25.42 | art3mis | iriel where? |
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| 07:26.03 | Iriel | art3mis: The song is from Avenue Q, I saw it this evening in San Francisco |
| 07:26.06 | art3mis | if it wasnt in nyc you're life isnt complete yet ;P |
| 07:26.15 | Iriel | Yeah well, this was more convenient 8-) |
| 07:26.21 | art3mis | heh |
| 07:26.25 | art3mis | <-- saw it here |
| 07:26.35 | art3mis | such goodness |
| 07:26.37 | Iriel | We at least had many of the original actors. |
| 07:26.46 | art3mis | yeah thats something |
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| 08:05.48 | [Liquidor] | http://www.metacafe.com/watch/768869/the_werewolf_skit_retard_edition/ |
| 08:05.51 | [Liquidor] | ownage ! |
| 08:08.52 | Nom- | I've been in meetings for the last .... 6.5 hours |
| 08:09.00 | Nom- | What an... annoying way to spend a Friday :P |
| 08:09.24 | Bleeter | Nom-: beer oclock! |
| 08:10.31 | Nom- | Dude. |
| 08:10.34 | Nom- | I'm way ahead of you. |
| 08:10.48 | Nom- | I'm already working my way through Beer #1 |
| 08:12.16 | Bleeter | Nom-: was just making sure you were already enacting, ie in the middle or, or just after the start of, beer oclock rather than having beer oclock be pending still ;) |
| 08:12.44 | Bleeter | if you hadn't started yet, i'd be kickin' yer bosses arse! |
| 08:12.56 | Bleeter | erm... s/ses/s's/ |
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| 08:24.20 | art3mis | <PROTECTED> |
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| 09:18.45 | AD|sneg | hi all |
| 09:18.52 | Cairenn | hi |
| 09:18.54 | AD|sneg | has anyone used wowbench? |
| 09:20.03 | Cairenn | unfortunately you've picked a rather quiet time to log into the channel, try sticking around (or coming back) and asking again when you see that more folks are talking |
| 09:20.58 | AD|sneg | oh teh time difference -.- |
| 09:21.06 | Cairenn | heh, yup |
| 09:21.07 | AD|sneg | 07 am? :) |
| 09:21.36 | Cairenn | although, that's a misleading statement in this channel, since we've got folks from all over in here |
| 09:22.00 | Cairenn | but the EU crew are at work, the NA are asleep (by and large) |
| 09:22.27 | AD|sneg | independence day in Ukraine ^^ |
| 09:23.11 | Cairenn | happy independence day |
| 09:23.26 | haste | It's 11 am here! |
| 09:23.38 | haste | which also means I'm waiting for school to start |
| 09:24.04 | AD|sneg | Cairenn: cheers. :P i dont really celebrate it :P |
| 09:24.12 | AD|sneg | chance to do some more wow addon coding :DD |
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| 09:24.22 | THECraZY | Hey i got a question for you fellow geeks |
| 09:24.34 | THECraZY | Has anyone here got a dual monitor setup? |
| 09:24.51 | Cairenn | it's 5:30am here, but stupid thunder storms keep knocking out the power, messing up our alarm clocks, so have to make sure someone is up when we're supposed to be up at 9 |
| 09:25.07 | Cairenn | THECraZY: lol, in this channel? more like multiple |
| 09:25.40 | AD|sneg | thunderstorms? jeez. hope u are alright there :) |
| 09:25.51 | AD|sneg | we ve got 47 degrees C here |
| 09:26.02 | AD|sneg | and we are supposed to have intermediate climate |
| 09:26.11 | AD|sneg | i dont know what is going on with this weather |
| 09:26.20 | AD|sneg | its sooooo hot |
| 09:26.22 | haste | It's hot here in norway also, but not that hot :D |
| 09:26.24 | AD|sneg | more like tropical |
| 09:26.34 | Cairenn | 21 here atm |
| 09:27.02 | AD|sneg | hot in norway :)) sounds like a joke |
| 09:27.14 | haste | hot here is like 28C |
| 09:27.22 | THECraZY | haha ok |
| 09:27.31 | THECraZY | well i was just wondering how it works out with gaming |
| 09:27.37 | AD|sneg | i guess thats pretty hot |
| 09:27.44 | THECraZY | ya know say... im in wow and i have a webpage on the other screen |
| 09:27.52 | AD|sneg | depends what game you are talking about |
| 09:27.57 | THECraZY | WoW |
| 09:28.10 | THECraZY | is my mouse going to be locked into the screen that plays wow? |
| 09:28.10 | AD|sneg | if its something like supreme commander or flying simulator - its awesome |
| 09:28.27 | AD|sneg | normally when people dual-screen play wow they play in window mode |
| 09:28.43 | AD|sneg | so the other screen is reserved for other apps |
| 09:28.54 | AD|sneg | yes ofc, if wow window is active, its locked |
| 09:29.30 | THECraZY | ok lets say the wow widnow is active how do i free my mouse to browse stuff on the other screen? |
| 09:29.36 | THECraZY | i gotta alt tab? |
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| 09:29.42 | Bleeter | you know you ain't levelled a toon in a while when: |
| 09:29.42 | AD|sneg | yep :) |
| 09:29.47 | THECraZY | hum... |
| 09:29.47 | Cairenn | yeah |
| 09:29.50 | Bleeter | you pick up a green hills page and sigh deeply |
| 09:29.58 | Cairenn | Bleeter: lol |
| 09:30.01 | Arrowmaster | ive got dual monitors right now and my curser will move out of wow and right onto the other desktop |
| 09:30.02 | THECraZY | makes me wish i could use a 2nd mouse and assign it to screen #2 |
| 09:30.14 | THECraZY | i guess i could dual computer instead haha |
| 09:30.51 | AD|sneg | yep. but the game with dual monitors really opens up when it supports it |
| 09:30.57 | Arrowmaster | but im using maximized windowed mode |
| 09:31.04 | AD|sneg | for eg supreme commander has different screens for both monitors |
| 09:31.20 | Cairenn | part of it depends, I'm sure, on how you're dual-screening |
| 09:31.29 | AD|sneg | Cairenn: exactly |
| 09:31.40 | Cairenn | whether full screen, max windowed, split screening, etc |
| 09:32.44 | AD|sneg | i was invited to a raid serpentstein cavern yesterday |
| 09:32.48 | AD|sneg | almost fel for it :))) |
| 09:32.55 | AD|sneg | fell* |
| 09:32.56 | THECraZY | ya well i was more thinking of being able to develop addons while having wow open or having guides open and stuff |
| 09:33.11 | THECraZY | but if i gotta alt tab i guess i should just do it |
| 09:33.14 | AD|sneg | you will still have to do alt+tab |
| 09:33.20 | Arrowmaster | no you dont |
| 09:33.28 | Arrowmaster | i was just in wow with dual monitors |
| 09:33.46 | Arrowmaster | just had to move the curser from one screen to the other |
| 09:34.01 | AD|sneg | how do you make wow window active then ? |
| 09:34.03 | THECraZY | really? so you just moved to the side and thats it |
| 09:34.12 | Arrowmaster | but like i said i use maximized windowed mode and not true fullscreen |
| 09:34.22 | THECraZY | i see |
| 09:34.24 | Arrowmaster | just move curser back and click |
| 09:34.28 | Arrowmaster | and wows active again |
| 09:34.30 | THECraZY | doesnt that cause problem in pvp sometimes? |
| 09:34.44 | AD|sneg | and once you are in wow, how do you move your cursor out of wow window? : ) |
| 09:34.45 | Arrowmaster | i dont pvp |
| 09:34.45 | THECraZY | if your mouse can go off the screen like that? |
| 09:35.00 | Arrowmaster | once in wow i just move it off the screen |
| 09:35.05 | AD|sneg | lol |
| 09:35.07 | THECraZY | really? |
| 09:35.10 | AD|sneg | sounds weird |
| 09:35.14 | THECraZY | so the mouse doesnt lock to the wow window |
| 09:35.19 | Arrowmaster | nope |
| 09:35.24 | AD|sneg | it sounds like a bug to me :) |
| 09:35.25 | THECraZY | and one last thing what if you use true full screen what happens? |
| 09:35.30 | THECraZY | with your 2nd screen i mean |
| 09:35.35 | Arrowmaster | no clue |
| 09:35.42 | THECraZY | oh ok |
| 09:35.51 | Arrowmaster | only attached the 2nd monitor earlyer this week |
| 09:36.52 | zenzelezz | "The problem is He's an Ubuntu Linux user and the gov't doesn't have any tracking software for Linux. So he's been told that he must use Windows for the term of his confinement. Looks like a case of cruel and unusual punishment to me" o_O |
| 09:37.51 | AD|sneg | bollocks |
| 09:37.54 | Cairenn | yeah, I saw that earlier too zenzelezz |
| 09:37.59 | AD|sneg | i m sure they have tracking software for linux : ) |
| 09:38.08 | AD|sneg | he is just not good enough ^^ |
| 09:38.35 | THECraZY | look like a case for wine |
| 09:39.35 | THECraZY | not gonna be much to trac though |
| 09:40.36 | THECraZY | well thx for the info guys see ya later |
| 09:41.23 | AD|sneg | i just realised my parser allows 2+2) |
| 09:41.29 | AD|sneg | i m such a noob :( |
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| 09:41.45 | AD|sneg | *back to bnf rules* |
| 09:42.04 | Cairenn | okay, power has stayed on for an hour now, hopefully it'll stay on |
| 09:43.03 | Bleeter | gnight Cairenn, rest well mate :) |
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| 10:34.24 | art3mis | http://www.eurogamer.net/article.php?article_id=82002 |
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| 11:09.31 | Bleeter | Cairenn|afk: suggestion: a comp on precisely how much XP one will require to get from 79->80 when WotLK hits! prize: I'm sure I've got a rubber ducky around here I can donate ;) |
| 11:11.48 | nevcairiel | for the exact match or closest ? :P |
| 11:12.10 | Bleeter | I think a rubber ducky is worthy for exact match ;) |
| 11:12.29 | Bleeter | yeah, a towel for closest.. rubber ducky AND towel for exact |
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| 11:18.22 | Maldivia | Bleeter: what about those who already knows? |
| 11:18.51 | nevcairiel | who would that be? |
| 11:19.04 | nevcairiel | with BC they adjusted the XP quite often during beta |
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| 12:35.46 | AD|sneg | yay! added my interface to wowi :) |
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| 12:51.21 | art3mis | yay linky |
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| 12:56.53 | AD|sneg | http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info7480-Calculator.html |
| 12:57.04 | AD|sneg | feedback always welcome |
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| 13:02.16 | AD|sneg | where can i look for the way to create my own error handler? |
| 13:03.42 | Cidan | seterrorhandler(FunctionToCall) |
| 13:03.55 | Cidan | passes one argument, the error message |
| 13:06.10 | AD|sneg | does the error handler has to return anything? |
| 13:06.41 | Bleeter | man, the guys who receive the PTR crashdumps must be getting bored with me by now, so I've resorted to saying in the 'what were you doing..' field 'HAY GUZY JUST ME DA WINO' now |
| 13:06.54 | Cidan | no |
| 13:06.56 | Cidan | it does not |
| 13:07.01 | Bleeter | gmorn cidan |
| 13:07.05 | Cidan | mornin |
| 13:07.20 | Cidan | lol |
| 13:07.26 | Cidan | poor PTR guys |
| 13:07.36 | Cidan | it's the new sound system, I tell yas |
| 13:07.37 | Cidan | it's crap |
| 13:10.06 | Bleeter | the random vista crashes, and random playback rate bugs just don't seem to have reduced at all over the past few builds... I'm starting to wonder if they'll get it working in a reasonable amount of time (ie, end of next month) |
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| 13:11.24 | Cidan | likely some rookie programmer, "LULZ I KAN DO PLZ?" |
| 13:16.08 | Bleeter | Cidan: well, I've got my own guess. I've been known to be way off mark in my guesses before, but I'm suspecting the driver model for Vista may have something to do with it (error recovery vs timing) |
| 13:16.30 | Cidan | dunno, does the crashing only happen in Vista? |
| 13:16.44 | Cidan | besides, the game uses direct x for sound |
| 13:16.47 | Cidan | there should be no issue |
| 13:16.49 | Cidan | it's transparent |
| 13:16.51 | Bleeter | seems to be, from reading over the Forum.. and switching to XP SP2 compatibility fixes stuff |
| 13:17.16 | Cidan | it's just a shoddy sound system that XP "fixes" |
| 13:17.35 | Bleeter | and that Wine constantly trips up |
| 13:17.53 | Bleeter | if Blizz just supported Wine, I'm sure they'd be able to nail the cause a hell of a lot quicker ;) |
| 13:18.13 | Bleeter | though, knowing my luck, two things completely unrelated =) |
| 13:18.57 | Cidan | wish they had linux binaries |
| 13:19.14 | Cidan | UT3 will have them |
| 13:19.54 | Bleeter | yeah well, I'd be happy even if they only threw out linux PTR binaries for a year that made some kinda progress |
| 13:20.11 | Cidan | psh |
| 13:20.13 | Bleeter | linux gaming is mad.. companies wont release, 'coz no company releases |
| 13:21.16 | Cidan | In all my encounters, a game under linux with naitive binaries blows away windows in performance. |
| 13:21.37 | Cidan | In particular, Quake 4 and Doom 3, Neverwinter Nights, Unreal 2004 |
| 13:21.52 | Cidan | All of which run so, so so much better under Linux |
| 13:22.13 | Cidan | huge bumps in framerates |
| 13:22.21 | zenzelezz | I would be careful about making assumptions as to why that is |
| 13:22.56 | Cidan | I'm not sure _why_ it is. |
| 13:23.04 | Cidan | I just know it is such. |
| 13:23.19 | Cidan | It could be any number of things. |
| 13:24.25 | Bleeter | I'd suspect it's the whole open-peer review, in theory at least getting better code. I mean, look at the Win32 source leaks and the crap in some of that - would never make it past a commit in most 'bigtime' open source areas, eg Xorg or the kernel itself |
| 13:24.41 | Cidan | very true |
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| 13:24.52 | Cidan | I'd also assume that OpenGL > Direct X |
| 13:25.11 | Cidan | and the interface between linux kernel->hardware has much less overhead |
| 13:26.25 | Bleeter | dunno 'bout OGL > DX, certainly it'd appear to me that in features DX > OGL, but yeah get back to clean/stable code behind a given API being real important |
| 13:27.22 | Cidan | Bleeter, no way. OGL2 has had "direct x 10" features for damn near 2 years |
| 13:27.38 | Cidan | Just no hardware support, it was emulated |
| 13:27.46 | Bleeter | actually, I'm curious as to why Blizz are using Fmod instead of OAL, though haven't look at that at all really. |
| 13:27.47 | Cidan | well, emulated on the hardware |
| 13:28.07 | Bleeter | Cidan: ah, haven't looked at OGL2 at all either. Been to busy playing some damned game =) |
| 13:29.24 | Bleeter | given that OAL was developed by Loki, now maintained by Createive with support from Apple, Id assume theres some compelling reason slouken aint using it |
| 13:30.14 | Bleeter | and as URT/Quake et al shows, not as if it don't work, either |
| 13:30.56 | Cidan | You do know slouken is the maintainer of SDL, right? |
| 13:31.02 | Bleeter | Cidan: aye |
| 13:31.33 | Bleeter | I donated a NinDS to LibSDL to get a port happening on NinDS Linux :) |
| 13:32.15 | Bleeter | it's prolly at the bottom of a drawer somewhere @ slouken's place now, 'coz the port happened |
| 13:37.15 | Bleeter | Cidan: hmm...' hardware acceleration for DirectSound and DirectSound3D was dropped in Windows Vista' |
| 13:37.37 | Cidan | correct |
| 13:37.42 | Cidan | It's all software now |
| 13:38.11 | Bleeter | ah, k.. so that's even more reason to be blaming fmod ;) |
| 13:38.21 | Bleeter | wasn't aware of that detail |
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| 13:47.43 | Bleeter | Cidan: amuse yourself... compare and contrast the PTR sound log in thread #3 http://appdb.winehq.org/appview.php?iVersionId=8903 with http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=1230694530&sid=1 |
| 13:47.54 | Cairenn|afk | rubber ducky & towel? you are generous, aren't you? |
| 13:48.32 | Bleeter | if it weren't for the fact that the wine bug says alsa/oss, the output's the same (if not the line number, same file leading me to suspect slightly different builds) |
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| 13:49.05 | Bleeter | Cairenn|afk: *two* towels and a rubber ducky ;) |
| 13:49.11 | Cairenn|afk | lol |
| 13:49.24 | cogwheel | O.O |
| 13:49.50 | Cairenn|afk | cogwheel: mind out of gutter |
| 13:49.52 | Cairenn|afk | (7:09:15 AM) Bleeter: Cairenn|afk: suggestion: a comp on precisely how much XP one will require to get from 79->80 when WotLK hits! prize: I'm sure I've got a rubber ducky around here I can donate ;) |
| 13:49.52 | Cairenn|afk | (7:11:32 AM) nevcairiel: for the exact match or closest ? :P |
| 13:49.52 | Cairenn|afk | (7:11:54 AM) Bleeter: I think a rubber ducky is worthy for exact match ;) |
| 13:49.52 | Cairenn|afk | (7:12:13 AM) Bleeter: yeah, a towel for closest.. rubber ducky AND towel for exact |
| 13:50.26 | nevcairiel | thats two towels :D |
| 13:50.33 | Bleeter | 23:49 < Bleeter> Cairenn|afk: *two* towels and a rubber ducky ;) |
| 13:50.37 | Cairenn|afk | yes, it is, I missed it at first |
| 13:51.04 | Cairenn|afk | gimme a break, I've had 4 hrs sleep, in 2 parts |
| 13:51.28 | Cairenn|afk | cogwheel: careful or I'll tell your wife on you |
| 13:52.03 | Bleeter | Cairenn|afk: only reason I'm in the gutter is so that when I look up I see you amongst the stars! |
| 13:52.10 | Cairenn|afk | rofl |
| 13:52.29 | Cairenn|afk | you guys are just sad |
| 13:52.31 | Cidan | Bleeter, holy shit, that was nice. |
| 13:52.59 | Bleeter | Cidan: yeah, but it's never got me out of serious trouble before .. I wouldn't recommend it as a line to use IRL |
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| 13:57.49 | Bleeter | actually, yeah... come to think of it, that'd have been the question I woulda asked Slouken at blizzcon.. 'why fmod and not oal' |
| 14:03.12 | cogwheel | Cairenn|afk: to paraphrase you, who says my wife would object? ;) |
| 14:03.20 | Cairenn|afk | ;) |
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| 14:06.01 | Cidan | lopepppepepepepepeppepppppppypypepypeyppyypyyyyyyy |
| 14:06.02 | Cidan | hai. |
| 14:06.02 | Cidan | :D |
| 14:06.29 | Lopeppeppy | Heya, Cidan. |
| 14:06.53 | Bleeter | OK, just to update folks, I've closed the current WoW 2.2 Wine bug as INVALID - Broken upstream. I don't wanna waste Wine developer's time on stuff that's likely to change in the next week or so with a new build. |
| 14:08.30 | Cidan | hmm |
| 14:08.37 | Cidan | I dunno if that's wise, but okay |
| 14:10.37 | Bleeter | there's a post, I think it was hortus, saying there's gunna be another PTR build. I'll re-examine when that happens |
| 14:12.23 | Bleeter | ah, was tigerclaw.... http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=942815325&postId=9423906769&sid=1#12 |
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| 14:13.27 | Bleeter | it's specifically about EAX and reverb, but does pretty much say there's gunna be another build. there's another thread begging for info on the pink-texture issues |
| 14:13.54 | art3mis | http://www.evilmadscientist.com/article.php/flego |
| 14:13.55 | Bleeter | coupled with this morn's hardware survy, sounds like they're on a big push to finalise PTR this coming week |
| 14:13.57 | AD|sneg | guys, when i use seterrorhandler() does that set error handler only for my script or for everything? |
| 14:14.10 | Cidan | everything |
| 14:14.44 | AD|sneg | kk |
| 14:16.48 | AD|sneg | so in theory another addon can overwrite my seterrorhandler() ? |
| 14:16.53 | JoshBorke | yes |
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| 14:17.01 | AD|sneg | that is just pants |
| 14:17.03 | AD|sneg | -.- |
| 14:17.10 | Bleeter | your error handler should take this into consideration |
| 14:17.17 | JoshBorke | you could hook the seterrorhandler function |
| 14:17.23 | JoshBorke | but that isn't playing nice |
| 14:17.55 | AD|sneg | nah this is getting a bit frustrating. i will have to find a way to go around it |
| 14:19.16 | kadrahil | is 600 agility too low to spec survival for the expose weakness raid buff? |
| 14:20.00 | cogwheel | nn |
| 14:20.28 | kadrahil | cogwheel: gg |
| 14:20.46 | kadrahil | :O |
| 14:21.03 | Lopeppeppy | Put a post it on your computer screen that says "REPAIR!!" and head on out. |
| 14:21.19 | cogwheel | 'cept i'll be playing at work on my lunch... :P |
| 14:21.24 | kadrahil | :( |
| 14:21.27 | cogwheel | guess i can e-mail myself |
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| 14:22.14 | Bleeter | nn again Cairenn|afk |
| 14:23.33 | mikma | i didn't know mikk has started to make music ;) Mikk-Angel_Of_Mine-(AMPDIG020)-WEB-2007 |
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| 14:39.17 | cladhaire | AD|sneg: What are you trying to do where you think ou need to "go around" the error hander stuff? |
| 14:39.26 | cladhaire | I can almost guarantee you that you're doing something wrong, if that's the case. |
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| 14:55.15 | art3mis | http://nsharporg.wordpress.com/2007/08/19/two-superheros-with-x-ray-vision-and-a-hot-girl-guess-what-happens/ |
| 14:58.06 | ts|skrom | http://www.penpaperpixel.org/tutorials/tabletopprojection/ <-- freakin' sweet |
| 14:59.50 | Wobin | that's kinda cool =) |
| 15:00.14 | Mr_Rabies2 | penetra-vision |
| 15:00.14 | Lopeppeppy | You find the neatest gaming toys, TS|Skrom. |
| 15:00.36 | ts|skrom | I want that kind of setup for my group, maybe when I get moved into my apartment finally :( |
| 15:00.36 | foxlit | But clearly you need one of those to run it on properly: http://www.microsoft.com/surface/ |
| 15:01.12 | art3mis | NERDS! |
| 15:01.14 | art3mis | ;) |
| 15:01.20 | ts|skrom | I really need to get to work on my place... I've owned the building since april of 2006 and only have the one apartment rented out |
| 15:01.23 | Lopeppeppy | I am soooo very much a gaming geek, yes. |
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| 15:01.51 | art3mis | lopey lets get married and have |
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| 15:02.01 | art3mis | 2 babies |
| 15:02.01 | ts|skrom | foxlit that's not a bad idea, it would remove the need to have a projector suspended |
| 15:02.15 | Lopeppeppy | The Peppy is already married, and I have one baby cat. That's my limit on marriages and kids, one of each. Sorry! |
| 15:03.47 | Industrial | haha |
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| 15:07.54 | ts|skrom | wtb druid discussion (yes, again) |
| 15:09.01 | ts|skrom | The five rage you gain from critical hits with primal fury... does that trigger an actual "You gain 5 rage" event or is it just added to the normal gained from hitting things? |
| 15:09.42 | ts|skrom | I would assume the former which is pretty awesome, since every crit would therefore add an extra 36.25 threat to every mob in combat with you |
| 15:10.40 | Mr_Rabies2 | i think the latter but i'll let you know |
| 15:10.41 | Mr_Rabies2 | one sec |
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| 15:20.39 | cladhaire | you get an event imo |
| 15:20.48 | cladhaire | i.e. when you swipe, you get three +5 events, if you crit thrice |
| 15:21.00 | Mr_Rabies2 | i dont think swipe has 3 |
| 15:21.09 | Mr_Rabies2 | we'll see what one does then i'll do swipe |
| 15:21.34 | Mr_Rabies2 | sec, virus scan is running and i'm letting it get past the wow folder before going on |
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| 15:30.32 | Mr_Rabies2 | "You gain 5 rage from Primal Fury" |
| 15:30.33 | Mr_Rabies2 | ts|skrom |
| 15:30.39 | ts|skrom | sweet |
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| 15:31.18 | Mr_Rabies2 | and clad was right |
| 15:31.24 | Mr_Rabies2 | 3 swipe crits = 3 primal furies |
| 15:31.29 | cladhaire | <3 droods |
| 15:31.58 | ts|skrom | considering the amount of crit a bear can get, that's a huge amount of threat available. |
| 15:32.00 | Mr_Rabies2 | i don't know if it's truly 15 rage or not |
| 15:32.12 | Mr_Rabies2 | they can get a decent amount for a tank |
| 15:32.27 | ts|skrom | well you get 11% just from talents |
| 15:32.43 | Mr_Rabies2 | i've got a 22.49% to crit in tanking gear |
| 15:32.56 | ts|skrom | what's your dodge? |
| 15:33.08 | Industrial | my game is strating for 17 minutes now (not wow) |
| 15:33.18 | Industrial | because im feeding it with 10.4GB of files, lol |
| 15:33.40 | Mr_Rabies2 | 23.45% dodge |
| 15:33.51 | Mr_Rabies2 | as a night elf |
| 15:35.18 | ts|skrom | gotcha, so my friend I was talking to with 30% dodge (mainly from agi has prolly around a 30% crit too |
| 15:35.20 | Bleeter | Mr_Rabies2: just like to thank you for those builds you posted me.. gave me good thoughts :) |
| 15:35.31 | Mr_Rabies2 | :P |
| 15:35.48 | Mr_Rabies2 | i'll do pretty much whatever it takes to bolster our awful numbers |
| 15:36.22 | Mr_Rabies2 | the more people i can get to play druids, the more likely we are to get some help in pvp |
| 15:36.22 | ts|skrom | I'm really enjoying mine, 4 levels this week since I started playing again |
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| 15:37.32 | Bleeter | droods rool ok! |
| 15:40.26 | cladhaire | ok! |
| 15:40.32 | Mr_Rabies2 | we do rool in pve |
| 15:40.36 | Mr_Rabies2 | not so much in pvp :[ |
| 15:40.58 | Mr_Rabies2 | restos aren't so bad but anything else is not what it needs to be |
| 15:43.40 | Bleeter | http://www.smh.com.au/ffximage/2007/08/24/2208_cartoon_moir_gallery__470x282.jpg |
| 15:43.44 | Bleeter | gnight all |
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| 15:47.33 | Thunder_Child | night Bleeter |
| 15:49.02 | Industrial | pff Bleeter ive been on the internet since I was 8 years old |
| 15:49.11 | Industrial | but then again, look what i've become >_> |
| 15:49.16 | kadrahil | a 10 year old? |
| 15:49.39 | kadrahil | ;) |
| 15:49.50 | Industrial | hm, maybe 10 yeah |
| 15:49.53 | Industrial | 1997 |
| 15:50.05 | kadrahil | you didn't get my joke :( |
| 15:50.07 | kadrahil | ifail |
| 15:50.20 | Industrial | iLackKnowledge |
| 15:50.28 | Industrial | kadrahil: explain :o |
| 15:50.34 | Thunder_Child | i got it |
| 15:50.39 | kadrahil | 12:49 <Industrial> but then again, look what i've become >_> |
| 15:50.39 | kadrahil | 12:49 <kadrahil> a 10 year old? |
| 15:50.41 | cog|work | Industrial: "since i was 8 years old...... look what i've become" |
| 15:50.42 | Thunder_Child | Industrial is simple |
| 15:50.47 | Industrial | oh |
| 15:50.50 | kadrahil | GOSH |
| 15:50.54 | Industrial | lmao |
| 15:51.09 | cog|work | <kadrahil>GOSH <--- QFT XD |
| 15:51.40 | Industrial | ther u go heres one lulz award!11oneone |
| 15:52.13 | Industrial | Anyone here a regular 4channer? |
| 15:53.10 | Lopeppeppy | Um.... nope. Wouldn't tell a bunch of strangers if I were, either! :P |
| 15:53.10 | Industrial | 4chan + inline youtube links (thus mostly safe content). Discuss. |
| 15:53.49 | Cidan | Industrial, R1 and R2 |
| 15:54.04 | Industrial | I jsut started browsing it daily - its so fast :( cant keep track of any threads |
| 15:54.20 | Industrial | and thats not even /b/ |
| 15:54.21 | Cidan | Industrial, stop. |
| 15:54.22 | Cidan | Industrial, stop. |
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| 16:02.55 | Kyahx | T-minus 30 minutes until Im jobless, yay! |
| 16:03.06 | Mr_Rabies2 | rule 1 and 2 do not exist okay >:[ |
| 16:03.10 | deltron | oh snap |
| 16:03.14 | deltron | are you supposed to be happy? |
| 16:03.18 | Kyahx | I am |
| 16:03.22 | Kyahx | Summer job :P |
| 16:03.27 | deltron | then grats :) |
| 16:03.29 | Kyahx | then a week to do nothing, then back to school |
| 16:03.44 | Kyahx | not looking forward to moving thou... =/ too much shit to pack |
| 16:03.48 | Mr_Rabies2 | they were invented by those who wish to harm /b/ |
| 16:03.50 | cog|work | meh... school's overrated |
| 16:04.03 | Mr_Rabies2 | back in my day there weren't any rules to /b/ and that's how it should remain forever >:[ |
| 16:05.04 | Cidan | shh, too many people on there already |
| 16:05.10 | Cidan | those rules are a good thing |
| 16:05.18 | Kyahx | I didn't even know there were rules |
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| 16:05.38 | deltron | rule 34! |
| 16:05.40 | Cidan | Moving on, I want... a corndog |
| 16:05.42 | Cidan | for some reason |
| 16:05.49 | Cidan | like I really crave one. |
| 16:06.10 | Saint-N | thats what she said |
| 16:06.14 | Saint-N | woooOOOOOooooo |
| 16:06.14 | Cidan | die |
| 16:06.41 | Saint-N | I rule, You suck. Die. |
| 16:06.42 | Mr_Rabies2 | rule 34 on a corndog imo |
| 16:07.29 | Cidan | Mr_Rabies2, I thought you didn't like rules, ;x |
| 16:07.34 | Industrial | zing |
| 16:07.34 | Cidan | ANYWAYS |
| 16:07.38 | Mr_Rabies2 | that's not a rule to /b/ |
| 16:07.42 | Mr_Rabies2 | but a rule to the internet itself |
| 16:07.46 | Cidan | What's everyone doing? |
| 16:07.49 | Mr_Rabies2 | like godwin's law |
| 16:07.50 | Cidan | todya? |
| 16:07.53 | Cidan | today, even. |
| 16:08.08 | Mr_Rabies2 | i'm playing wow and being bored |
| 16:08.13 | Industrial | playing stepmania |
| 16:08.23 | Industrial | chatting between songs |
| 16:08.31 | Industrial | (to rest my hand) :P |
| 16:08.37 | Cidan | ... |
| 16:08.46 | Cidan | oh right, stepmania on keyboard |
| 16:08.51 | Industrial | yeah |
| 16:09.02 | Industrial | I play one handed tho, pretty bad practise |
| 16:09.03 | Lopeppeppy | I'm getting pwned by having my brakes done. *sigh* |
| 16:09.03 | Industrial | jkl; |
| 16:09.39 | Industrial | i guess two hands is faster, but i cant un-learn this :P i totally suck with 2 hands :( |
| 16:09.52 | Industrial | im at 9-10 step songs now, heavy/challenge |
| 16:09.56 | Shirik | dude |
| 16:09.58 | Shirik | play some real DDR |
| 16:10.06 | Industrial | I dont have a pad |
| 16:10.19 | Shirik | nothing like going into an arcade to play something like max 300 |
| 16:10.24 | Cidan | Lopeppeppy, how much? |
| 16:10.30 | Shirik | having a crowd gathering behind you going like "how the hell" |
| 16:10.30 | Industrial | Shirik: .. yeah |
| 16:10.34 | Cidan | Lopeppeppy, and what are you having done? |
| 16:10.36 | Shirik | it's awesome :D |
| 16:10.41 | Shirik | used to do it every day after school |
| 16:11.07 | Industrial | theres no arcade near here :P |
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| 16:11.55 | Industrial | known dutch locations; http://www.ddrnl.com/locaties.php |
| 16:12.46 | Mr_Rabies2 | am i the only one that makes noises like a stuka bomber when i do the bombing quests? |
| 16:12.53 | Cidan | yes |
| 16:12.55 | Cidan | yes you are. |
| 16:12.59 | Industrial | lol |
| 16:13.22 | Lopeppeppy | Cidan: Replace every darned part in the front end. Seems the back end has been out of alignment since the last brake job, which has led to the front end doing ALL of the braking. Hence, it all freakin' wore to nubs. *frown* |
| 16:13.42 | Lopeppeppy | If I remembered where I got the last job done, I would be doing some serious complaining... but that was in a whole 'nother state. |
| 16:14.34 | Cidan | pads and rotors then |
| 16:14.40 | Cidan | should cost toooo much |
| 16:15.48 | Lopeppeppy | And the labor to set the back end to rights, so it starts doing its share of the work. |
| 16:16.47 | Lopeppeppy | Labor is what's borking me, there are higher rates here in NY than I'm used to in MA. |
| 16:16.47 | Thunder_Child | and the misc. costs they throw in because...well....their bored. |
| 16:16.59 | Lopeppeppy | And I'm a chick, Thunder_Child, that's like a 10% inflation right there. |
| 16:17.06 | Thunder_Child | point |
| 16:17.21 | Cidan | That is pretty crummy. |
| 16:17.28 | Cidan | Always have a guy take your car in for you |
| 16:17.30 | Lopeppeppy | I need the tires rotated and aligned and so forth soon enough, I'll go to another shop and see how the attitude is there. |
| 16:17.49 | Lopeppeppy | Cidan... If I had one to do it, I just might have done that. But I can work at home, husband can't. |
| 16:18.25 | Lopeppeppy | Chicks just have to shop around until we find a garage that doesn't treat us like Barbie Dolls. Chain shops have higher prices, but are usually less condescending then independent garages, where prices might be a bit lower. |
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| 16:20.15 | Mr_Rabies2 | is it wrong to tap other people's targets when they refuse to group for banishing demons? |
| 16:20.30 | Lopeppeppy | Slightly unsportsmanlike, yes. |
| 16:20.43 | Mr_Rabies2 | if they wanted to be sportsmanlike they'd group with me |
| 16:21.35 | Thunder_Child | i usualy dont like to gorup with people when doing solo quests |
| 16:21.45 | Thunder_Child | group* |
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| 16:22.14 | Thunder_Child | hence the word solo |
| 16:22.37 | Mr_Rabies2 | when there's competition for spawns it's the smart thing to do |
| 16:22.42 | ts|skrom | Hey cladhaire why doesn't the lightheaded info contain the reward? |
| 16:22.46 | Lopeppeppy | I hate to group at all, honestly, because I can't stand leet speak and often just want to be left alone. But if it's for a camped spawn, I consider it. |
| 16:22.48 | Mr_Rabies2 | if you'd rather compete over spawns then we can compete over spawns |
| 16:22.54 | cladhaire | because the reward is listed in the quest description? |
| 16:23.14 | ts|skrom | true for current quests, but what If I use the links to view descriptions/comments for further down the chain? |
| 16:23.29 | cladhaire | i could include them, but its somewhat of a pain in the ass |
| 16:23.37 | cladhaire | not currently a part of the data i store |
| 16:23.38 | ts|skrom | fair answer :D |
| 16:23.43 | cladhaire | although i have it |
| 16:24.00 | ts|skrom | I was just curious (and your first answer occurred to me as well hehe) |
| 16:24.07 | cladhaire | :P |
| 16:24.40 | ts|skrom | any way to pull a list of the quests from the zone you are in? |
| 16:24.52 | Lopeppeppy | Why duplicate the wheel when someone else makes donuts.... *hums happily* |
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| 16:25.41 | cladhaire | ts|skrom: no, the databases are loaded by level range |
| 16:25.42 | Thunder_Child | actuly go *to* wowhead |
| 16:25.50 | Shirik | Lopeppeppy: If that were how everyone operated |
| 16:25.54 | Shirik | Krispy Kreme would never have come to be |
| 16:25.56 | Mr_Rabies2 | donuts don't really function well at high speed |
| 16:25.59 | Shirik | and we all know that would have been a very bad thing |
| 16:26.16 | Thunder_Child | why? they suck |
| 16:26.17 | cladhaire | in theory i could probably give you a way to do |
| 16:26.22 | Shirik | ~lart Thunder_Child |
| 16:26.22 | purl | nabs the moon and broadsides Thunder_Child with the sea of tranquility |
| 16:26.25 | Shirik | and on that note, I'm out |
| 16:26.27 | Shirik | take care everyone |
| 16:26.32 | Thunder_Child | cya Shirik |
| 16:26.32 | Shirik | I shall see you on the flip side |
| 16:26.38 | Lopeppeppy | I don't know that, Shirik. I know that donuts are interesting, but there are too many flavors. |
| 16:26.42 | ts|skrom | so what you are saying is, if I have a quest in my log that's level 15 and I'm level 34 (why I would I don't know) I couldn't view info on it? |
| 16:27.01 | Thunder_Child | uhhh...hopefully flipside not meaning death in this case |
| 16:28.05 | Thunder_Child | ...welcome to what? |
| 16:28.15 | ts|skrom | You'll have to find out after the two days |
| 16:28.22 | Cidan | welcome to what?!#?! |
| 16:28.23 | Thunder_Child | bah shirik fails |
| 16:28.25 | Cidan | WE MUST KNOW!@OL*I!@ |
| 16:29.02 | cog|work | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=965651263&pageNo=1&sid=1#3 |
| 16:29.21 | cog|work | How long do you think it'll be before the "zomg blizz you promised higher cooldown on escape artist" posts? |
| 16:30.04 | Lopeppeppy | TS|Skrom, I think you can still view quest information for lower level quests without issue. At least, my priestess can see info on her grey quests. |
| 16:32.19 | ScytheBlade1 | cog|work, next PTR push |
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| 16:33.06 | ts|skrom | I see, was just trying to figure out what "loaded by level" meant hehe |
| 16:33.51 | cladhaire | it means that data is loaded on demand |
| 16:33.56 | cladhaire | based on the level of the quest |
| 16:34.05 | cladhaire | in order to search all quests in a given zone, i'd need to load all data |
| 16:34.11 | ScytheBlade1 | You know what thread made my head hurt yesterday? |
| 16:34.14 | ScytheBlade1 | The ZHunter one |
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| 16:35.23 | ts|skrom | oh gotcha |
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| 16:35.53 | ts|skrom | can it be unloaded? |
| 16:36.06 | cog|work | ts|skrom: there's this bowl of soup... |
| 16:36.13 | ts|skrom | mmmm soup |
| 16:36.54 | cog|work | http://blue.cardplace.com/cache/wow-interface-customization/231117.htm |
| 16:38.44 | ts|skrom | ahh |
| 16:38.58 | ts|skrom | I've not played with LoD stuff yet so I wasn't too sure ;-) |
| 16:43.25 | Lopeppeppy | I want my oyster crackers to always stay crispy in my soup, so I can fish them out whenever I want to! |
| 16:44.06 | ts|skrom | copying a wow installation via dsl and ftp is slow ^^ |
| 16:44.19 | Lopeppeppy | Yuh-huh. |
| 16:44.41 | cog|work | DVD+R DL 4tw |
| 16:45.15 | ts|skrom | heh |
| 16:45.37 | ts|skrom | I don't have DVD+R at home, just at work, and I wanted to play wow tonight after work before D&D |
| 16:45.49 | ts|skrom | I don't go home between work and gaming on friday's |
| 16:46.47 | ts|skrom | man what the heck, I've got a sore spot on my head... I wonder if I hit my head on something the other night, would explain why I woke up on the floor |
| 16:48.15 | Lopeppeppy | Um... .it might. Or it might be from contacting said floor? |
| 16:48.43 | ts|skrom | not sure really. I don't remember hitting anything |
| 16:48.53 | cog|work | dolby-wowi: any chance for e-mails when someone submits a bug report/feature request? |
| 16:52.09 | ts|skrom | it seems like there's alot of duplication in my wow folder |
| 16:52.27 | ts|skrom | are the files in both /data and /data/enus requried? (I mean the .mpq's specifically) |
| 16:52.38 | cog|work | they're not duplicates |
| 16:52.42 | cog|work | if that's what you're thinking |
| 16:53.12 | cog|work | notice the size differences... |
| 16:53.15 | ts|skrom | okay yeah basically I was wondering if one was obsolete maybe because of the expansion |
| 16:53.29 | Thunder_Child | lol thought you types /data/anus |
| 16:53.32 | Thunder_Child | typed* |
| 16:53.36 | ts|skrom | haha |
| 16:53.48 | cog|work | ts|skrom: critical thinking 4tw... the stuff in enUS is specific to US locales :P |
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| 16:54.08 | ts|skrom | you odn't have to be so critical about it :p |
| 16:54.25 | cog|work | yes i do... i got the Evil Twin debuff last night... |
| 16:54.53 | ts|skrom | I understand what you are saying, I just don't get what all these other locales are, I mean like most americans I'm sure the US is the only country in the world |
| 16:55.18 | cog|work | In EU, they can install multiple language packs |
| 16:55.35 | ts|skrom | (I was being facetious) |
| 16:55.52 | cog|work | (and I was ignoring that fact for the sake of any n00bs in the channel ;P ) |
| 16:56.13 | ts|skrom | you are a punk for mentioning soup btw |
| 16:56.18 | ts|skrom | it's too close to lunchtime for that |
| 16:56.40 | cog|work | Would you rather I had mentioned Insalata Caprese, Gnocchi, and Meatballs? |
| 16:56.41 | Lopeppeppy | SOUP!!!! |
| 16:57.04 | ts|skrom | fortunately for me the only word there I understood was meatballs |
| 16:57.06 | Lopeppeppy | Although a nice salad would go over well... but my budget is well and truly hosed right now, so I'm eating what's in the cupboards for a bit! |
| 16:57.47 | cog|work | ts|skrom: what about barbecued tri tip? |
| 16:58.05 | ts|skrom | tri tip? |
| 16:58.26 | cog|work | l2food :P |
| 16:58.29 | ts|skrom | lol |
| 16:58.39 | ts|skrom | I'm a big fat guy you'd think I'd have this down |
| 16:59.35 | Lopeppeppy | Big fat guy /= chef's data base |
| 16:59.54 | ts|skrom | I' |
| 17:00.01 | ts|skrom | I think I'm down for some greek tonight for dinner |
| 17:00.09 | ts|skrom | lamb soulvaki, yum |
| 17:00.15 | cog|work | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gnocchi ~ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Insalata_Caprese ~ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tri_tip |
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| 17:02.58 | Mr_Rabies2 | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=965754595&sid=1 |
| 17:03.05 | Mr_Rabies2 | this is what the official forums need more of |
| 17:03.20 | Mr_Rabies2 | strict, powerful moderation with swift consequences |
| 17:03.58 | Matrix110 | you need like |
| 17:04.00 | Matrix110 | 5000 mods for that:P |
| 17:04.25 | Mr_Rabies2 | no way |
| 17:04.35 | Mr_Rabies2 | it may take a while to get people under control |
| 17:05.08 | Matrix110 | well iam for merging US/EU get ~200mods that delete and ban every moron and troll directly |
| 17:05.13 | Mr_Rabies2 | but once you're over the hump with the majority of the forum-posting accounts banned, it's much easier to control them |
| 17:05.32 | Mr_Rabies2 | the problem is they've been too lenient so far |
| 17:05.42 | Mr_Rabies2 | and it's blown up to a huge problem |
| 17:05.54 | Matrix110 | i wonder how big the DB of the wow forums is:P |
| 17:06.23 | Matrix110 | even the DB of quite big forums is under ~100mb normally |
| 17:06.44 | Matrix110 | but the wow forum.... |
| 17:08.27 | ScytheBlade1 | "?topicId=965754595" |
| 17:08.31 | ScytheBlade1 | I'd have to guess "massive" |
| 17:10.21 | Mr_Rabies2 | a forum that's been going since 1999 i go to has an 8 gb db |
| 17:10.26 | Mr_Rabies2 | post db that is |
| 17:10.47 | Mr_Rabies2 | that's roughly 2x the size of wikipedia's db |
| 17:11.24 | ScytheBlade1 | Err... pretty sure that wikipedia is a lot more than 8GB |
| 17:12.14 | ScytheBlade1 | http://download.wikimedia.org/enwiki/20070716/ |
| 17:12.34 | ScytheBlade1 | Looking at 15GB compressed for the first few files |
| 17:12.47 | Mr_Rabies2 | hrm |
| 17:12.54 | Mr_Rabies2 | the database i saw was like 4.5 or so |
| 17:13.19 | ScytheBlade1 | lol @ Kaydeethree: "STICKIES! READ THEM!" |
| 17:16.06 | Kaydeethree | meh, most of my c/p responses start out with that |
| 17:16.42 | ScytheBlade1 | It's pretty classy, I won't lie |
| 17:16.55 | ScytheBlade1 | Seeing three threads in a row with "STICKIES! READ THEM!" like that |
| 17:16.56 | ScytheBlade1 | Mmm |
| 17:23.05 | Mr_Rabies2 | oh man |
| 17:23.07 | Mr_Rabies2 | bwahahaha |
| 17:23.08 | Mr_Rabies2 | http://perfectworld.com.my/ |
| 17:23.12 | Mr_Rabies2 | check out the site layout |
| 17:23.19 | zenzelezz | there's something funny about getting a mail with 1 Scroll of Protection V in your mailbox as a 70 tank |
| 17:23.27 | cog|work | Is there a mod that lets you show a status bar for the count of a specified item in your inventory? |
| 17:23.39 | Kaydeethree | lmao, that's pretty funny |
| 17:23.42 | Kaydeethree | a direct clone |
| 17:23.46 | foxlit | Status bar does not make sense in the context, cog |
| 17:23.47 | Lopeppeppy | Very funny, Mr_Rabies2 |
| 17:24.00 | Mr_Rabies2 | the game itself looks |
| 17:24.02 | Mr_Rabies2 | ....odd |
| 17:24.06 | Lopeppeppy | Zenzelezz, do you know the sender? If not, just click Return and it's done. |
| 17:24.10 | Mr_Rabies2 | http://perfectworld.com.my/downloads/screenshots/ss08.jpg |
| 17:24.28 | Mr_Rabies2 | person on top of a giant cat on top of a giant bird |
| 17:24.33 | Mr_Rabies2 | O_o |
| 17:25.16 | Kaydeethree | ooh, I always wanted to summon my wintersaber on my gryphon... |
| 17:25.37 | Mr_Rabies2 | i had a bug where i was in bear form flying on a bird |
| 17:25.38 | zenzelezz | Lopeppeppy: it's a guildie :-p |
| 17:25.46 | Mr_Rabies2 | then i left bear form and was swimming midair |
| 17:25.56 | Mr_Rabies2 | then went back to bear and was flying as a bear :X |
| 17:26.04 | Mr_Rabies2 | it was on the ptr on the moonglade paths |
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| 17:26.16 | Mr_Rabies2 | it didn't require you to dismount or cancelform before taking them |
| 17:26.18 | Mr_Rabies2 | O_o |
| 17:26.46 | Lopeppeppy | Then bonk them on the head, and cast the scroll on someone next raid. *shrug* They were tryin' to be nice. I send random crap to my tank all the time, I don't know what he likes... probably auctions off half of my gifts. :) |
| 17:27.21 | Mr_Rabies2 | also, apparently it lets you customize your character by putting custom face textures on |
| 17:27.21 | zenzelezz | you're taking what I say too seriously. o_O |
| 17:27.35 | Mr_Rabies2 | http://perfectworld.com.my/newbie-char_create.asp |
| 17:27.36 | Lopeppeppy | Sorry. Guess it's a bad habit of mine, this whole being serious thing. |
| 17:27.54 | Mr_Rabies2 | countdown to someone's butt being modeled as a face texture |
| 17:27.57 | Mr_Rabies2 | oh god |
| 17:27.58 | Mr_Rabies2 | or goatse |
| 17:27.59 | Mr_Rabies2 | :[ |
| 17:28.31 | zenzelezz | Lopeppeppy: being serious is fine, but you made it sound like I was bashing the guy |
| 17:28.33 | Mr_Rabies2 | ohh, you don't actually upload textures |
| 17:28.58 | Lopeppeppy | Bonk on the head isn't bashing, it's rough housing. Anyway, sorry. |
| 17:28.59 | Mr_Rabies2 | you can pop them up onscreen and make it look like real people by moving face parts around and using different textures or something |
| 17:30.05 | Mr_Rabies2 | darn |
| 17:30.21 | Mr_Rabies2 | an mmo with texture uploading (outside of second life) would be hilarious and abused like mad |
| 17:32.10 | Lopeppeppy | Maybe they improved the Armory at the cost of the forums? *laugh* |
| 17:32.22 | Kaydeethree | heh. was just about to ask if anyone was having forum issues |
| 17:32.58 | Mr_Rabies2 | my forum issues usually extend to the playerbase |
| 17:33.17 | Kaydeethree | just take my usual stance... yell at them |
| 17:33.19 | Mr_Rabies2 | a swift and fearful moderation team would clean the forums up |
| 17:34.05 | Kaydeethree | and wow... they've finally cracked the iPhone |
| 17:34.07 | Lopeppeppy | I think they threw out the baby with the bathwater, Mr_Rabies2. |
| 17:34.09 | Kaydeethree | surprised it took this long |
| 17:34.54 | cog|work | they live again |
| 17:35.05 | cog|work | sortof |
| 17:35.11 | cog|work | poo |
| 17:35.21 | batrick | how does one know if there is a custom error handler set? |
| 17:36.53 | zenzelezz | I know what's wrong with the forum: http://icanhascheezburger.com/2007/08/15/heersit-da-problum-u-has-a-bad-conexxshun/ |
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| 17:38.29 | Lopeppeppy | Oh, god, my cat does that all the time, sadly. |
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| 17:43.42 | zenzelezz | our cats have been quite bad to certain furniture... mostly the kitchen chairs, kitchen table legs, and one corner of a hall. Deep claw marks all over |
| 17:43.52 | Mr_Rabies2 | Our cries herald the coming of great pain for our enemies. |
| 17:44.28 | Lopeppeppy | The thing she's HORRIBLE about is the screen door. She does some Super Cat trick and jumps up to the top corner, rips down the screen. Everything else I can hiss her away from, but that.... no dice. |
| 17:46.14 | Mr_Rabies2 | run a small electrical current through the screen :p |
| 17:46.36 | Lopeppeppy | Don't tempt me. |
| 17:46.40 | Mr_Rabies2 | i stepped on one of those cat-mats before wth a small electrical current |
| 17:46.42 | Mr_Rabies2 | woke me up |
| 17:46.47 | Lopeppeppy | Now WTF is going on with Armory. *sigh* I need the bloody thing. |
| 17:47.41 | Kaydeethree | the hell, adys? |
| 17:47.50 | Adys | Dont worry about it |
| 17:49.55 | zenzelezz | we had one of those cat-door-things that require a magnet to open in our front door once. It was fine until our cat had a kitten, since we only had one magnet... the kitten isn't all that smart, but when she was a few months old she realized brute force was enough to open it |
| 17:50.11 | zenzelezz | broke the magnet mechanism |
| 17:52.31 | herzogthc | it's been a long day |
| 17:54.34 | Mr_Rabies2 | is that screen door often used for them to travel outside, lopeppy? |
| 17:54.52 | Mr_Rabies2 | as in, you take then in and out using said door? |
| 17:55.02 | Lopeppeppy | No. Never. Miss Kitty is an indoor cat, she's never been out that door. |
| 17:55.13 | Lopeppeppy | She just enjoys to fly? *shrug* |
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| 18:02.24 | Mr_Rabies2 | my suggestion is put one of those motion detecting goofy halloween toys up, or at least gutting it and getting the motion detector and voicebox |
| 18:02.42 | Mr_Rabies2 | so when she gets close to said door it'll go off and scare the hell of her |
| 18:02.45 | Mr_Rabies2 | she'll learn :P |
| 18:02.59 | Lopeppeppy | I want her to be able to enjoy the door, it's the jump/climb I'm not cool with. |
| 18:03.22 | Mr_Rabies2 | maybe put the detector up higher so it'll go off when she gets above it, i dunno :X |
| 18:03.39 | Lopeppeppy | I'm thinking of fixing a clear plastic over the top half for a few weeks, so she learns that she can't stick up there, and then take it off once she's figured out the difference between watching the world from the floor, and climbing. |
| 18:04.05 | Mr_Rabies2 | seems that the best way to decattify something is to scare the hell out of them and get a pavlov style response |
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| 18:04.59 | Lopeppeppy | But then she'll avoid the whole door -- being able to see the outside world is healthy for her, in a keep-the-kitty-from-going-crazy fashion. |
| 18:05.13 | Lopeppeppy | I just have to find balance between what she wants and what I want. |
| 18:06.06 | Kaydeethree | whoo... a mod's looking at the PTR forum |
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| 18:18.13 | Cidan | man |
| 18:18.18 | Cidan | it's tough for me to play horde |
| 18:18.22 | Cidan | I'm so used to being alliance |
| 18:18.30 | Mr_Rabies2 | i can swap on the fly |
| 18:18.43 | Mr_Rabies2 | i have no real allegiances to either :P |
| 18:19.01 | Mr_Rabies2 | my first character was a druid and somehow i found myself natrually related, not caring about one faction over another |
| 18:19.20 | Cidan | I'm trying to play a BE mage |
| 18:19.23 | Cidan | but I just... can't |
| 18:19.26 | Cidan | I need to be on alliance |
| 18:19.30 | Mr_Rabies2 | not often is there druid on druid combat in moonglade |
| 18:19.52 | Mr_Rabies2 | even hardcore pvpers will just /wave in moonglade if it's druid on druid |
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| 18:23.39 | Cidan | question is, should I get my paladin to 70 first? hmm |
| 18:23.50 | Cidan | I'm not in a guild, and yeah. |
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| 18:27.18 | Cidan | Is anyone on a good PvP server, alliance side? |
| 18:27.36 | Lej | I have this InputBox frame that I use to enter a textstring. It got a OK button. Is there any way to make pressing enter when that frame is selected be the same as pressing OK |
| 18:28.07 | Lopeppeppy | Cidan... I feel that's an impossibility. |
| 18:28.16 | foxlit | Lej: There should be |
| 18:28.18 | Cidan | Lopeppeppy, :( |
| 18:28.23 | [Liquidor] | Lej there is |
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| 18:28.51 | foxlit | (But consider using StaticPopup's if you need to prompt for input in a box :) ) |
| 18:29.06 | Lej | StaticPopup? |
| 18:29.24 | [Liquidor] | Lej, the popup boxes bilzz uses |
| 18:29.29 | Lej | :| |
| 18:29.34 | [Liquidor] | you can add your own with a few variables |
| 18:29.40 | [Liquidor] | and blizz will handle it |
| 18:30.00 | Lej | didn't know there was one :< |
| 18:30.06 | [Liquidor] | eh |
| 18:30.21 | Lej | I did look before I made mine but didn't find anything >_> |
| 18:30.23 | [Liquidor] | you've never seen a popup before ingame? |
| 18:30.34 | [Liquidor] | when you die you see a popup |
| 18:30.46 | Lej | yes I have but couldn't remember when :P |
| 18:30.47 | [Liquidor] | when you get invitations you see a popup |
| 18:30.59 | [Liquidor] | anyway..... |
| 18:31.01 | foxlit | When you rename a chat tab you get a popup |
| 18:31.13 | foxlit | INTEFACE IS BLEEDING IDITIOC, THOUGH |
| 18:31.15 | Lej | Stop making me feel worthless :( |
| 18:31.20 | foxlit | (and I lost typing skills there) |
| 18:31.21 | [Liquidor] | look in \FrameXML\StaticPopup.lua |
| 18:31.29 | foxlit | Sec, I can hook you up with some code |
| 18:32.10 | Lej | there's nothing simple like local tempString = InputBox() right? |
| 18:32.18 | foxlit | No |
| 18:32.28 | foxlit | And you can't do it that way, unfortunately |
| 18:32.29 | foxlit | http://wowi.pastey.net/72679 |
| 18:32.38 | [Liquidor] | Lej http://www.wowwiki.com/HOWTO:_Popup_Simple_Dialog_Boxes |
| 18:32.41 | [Liquidor] | just read that |
| 18:32.46 | [Liquidor] | it's simple |
| 18:32.53 | Lej | will do after I've finished eating |
| 18:33.12 | [Liquidor] | "As you might expect, all of the basic UI elements (positioning, sound effects, layout) are handled for you." |
| 18:33.32 | foxlit | You can't get input syncroniously, though |
| 18:33.44 | AnduinLothar | what do you mean? |
| 18:34.36 | foxlit | When you write something along the lines of |
| 18:34.43 | foxlit | response = Prompt("Foo?"); |
| 18:35.02 | foxlit | You expect execution to halt until you get a response |
| 18:35.09 | foxlit | You can't do that in WoW |
| 18:35.26 | zenzelezz | it's non-blocking |
| 18:35.48 | AnduinLothar | it's asyncronys. you have to give it a callback function to resume processing |
| 18:35.55 | foxlit | Hence "You can't get input syncroniously, though" |
| 18:36.24 | AnduinLothar | but your function can be dynamically generated to pass any needed info. |
| 18:36.48 | Thunder_Child | *sigh* this is why you tube should be outlawed http://youtube.com/watch?v=4ZJuglqChhk |
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| 18:37.26 | AnduinLothar | if you wanted it to be syncronous I think you'd have to have some sort of wait command set up with coroutines. |
| 18:38.02 | cog|work | People whose first response to anything they find objectionable is "it should be outlawed" should be outlawed :P |
| 18:38.04 | herzogthc | haha telnet towel.blinkenlights.nl |
| 18:38.43 | foxlit | AnduinLothar: You can't do it syncroniously. At all. |
| 18:38.49 | ScytheBlade1 | Welcome to 1999? ;P |
| 18:38.50 | foxlit | Which was the original point |
| 18:38.58 | Kaydeethree | blinkenlights ftw... |
| 18:39.42 | herzogthc | Kaydeethree: that shits crayz |
| 18:39.44 | foxlit | Couroutines will simply move the asyncronious handler code elsewhere |
| 18:40.25 | AnduinLothar | right, but i'm pretty sure I could write a lib that would make it appear synchronous |
| 18:41.13 | foxlit | Not really |
| 18:41.21 | [Liquidor] | wtf is "synchronous" anyway? |
| 18:41.29 | [Liquidor] | (not native eng) |
| 18:41.29 | foxlit | Not without cooperation from the code requiring the prompt, anyway |
| 18:41.35 | Thunder_Child | ~lart cog|work |
| 18:41.35 | purl | pulls out his louisville slugger and uses cog|work's head to break the homerun record |
| 18:41.54 | AnduinLothar | nah, i think it can be done |
| 18:42.02 | AnduinLothar | inside the request func |
| 18:42.33 | [Liquidor] | talking about halting the addon until a response is given on the popup? |
| 18:42.40 | AnduinLothar | ya |
| 18:43.07 | [Liquidor] | well just either use variables or unregister/register events during the popup |
| 18:43.20 | AnduinLothar | no, simpler than that |
| 18:43.26 | [Liquidor] | shoot :) |
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| 18:43.32 | ScytheBlade1 | Holy crap |
| 18:43.40 | ScytheBlade1 | Just when you thought people couldn't get any stupider: http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=712093382 |
| 18:43.49 | Thunder_Child | i never think that |
| 18:43.57 | Thunder_Child | i know people to well |
| 18:44.02 | ScytheBlade1 | Good for you, heh |
| 18:44.09 | Chaotic_D | what does it mean when I get a Lua error about trying to concatenate a function value? before I thought it was a problem because it was reporting concatenating a nil value. |
| 18:44.10 | ScytheBlade1 | That'll save you agitation down the road I'm sure |
| 18:44.48 | ScytheBlade1 | A haha |
| 18:44.49 | foxlit | You're trying to concatenate a function with a string |
| 18:44.49 | Thunder_Child | why the hell did he install a game to my documents? |
| 18:44.51 | ScytheBlade1 | This thread is broken and epic |
| 18:44.54 | ScytheBlade1 | Keep reading |
| 18:44.55 | foxlit | "foo: " .. math.sqrt |
| 18:44.57 | foxlit | Makes no sense |
| 18:45.00 | ScytheBlade1 | Page 2 becomes awesome |
| 18:45.39 | ScytheBlade1 | Like, I'm literally lol'ing |
| 18:45.59 | [Liquidor] | rofl ScytheBlade1 |
| 18:46.01 | [Liquidor] | that guys is just.. haha |
| 18:46.04 | ScytheBlade1 | holy crap @ page 4 |
| 18:46.05 | ScytheBlade1 | " I can try uploading my wowtest folder to filefront and you can see if that works. I used to have a problem like that too, but honestly I can't remember what my problem was. " |
| 18:46.05 | deltron | ScytheBlade1: my heard hurts |
| 18:46.10 | herzogthc | I wanna go to fuckin sleeppppppppppppppppppppppppppp |
| 18:46.14 | [Liquidor] | copying just the wowtest.exe to his documents folder.... rofl |
| 18:46.22 | ScytheBlade1 | Keep. Reading. |
| 18:46.38 | [Liquidor] | " Ok well, Your telling me to copy this "executable" but what is the real name of the file i should go look for to copy off of my brothers computer? Like i tryed finding my missing file on Google, But I couldn't seem to find it." |
| 18:46.41 | [Liquidor] | HAHAHAHAHAHA |
| 18:46.44 | deltron | haha |
| 18:46.49 | deltron | 'make that 4 traces' |
| 18:46.51 | deltron | wtf |
| 18:46.55 | Kaydeethree | ya, I didn't even bother with that one |
| 18:46.56 | ScytheBlade1 | Now find his traces |
| 18:47.02 | ScytheBlade1 | The "traces" are EPIC |
| 18:47.03 | herzogthc | ahhahahahahahhahahahah |
| 18:47.09 | ScytheBlade1 | WinXP prefetching... ftw? ftl? |
| 18:47.15 | herzogthc | my drumming on my table made my coworkers think that i was knocking on the door |
| 18:47.16 | herzogthc | that's awesome |
| 18:47.20 | art3mis | http://www.gothi.ca/Stuff/clown.jpg <-- what movie is this from? |
| 18:47.23 | herzogthc | I made some lazy ass get up |
| 18:47.35 | deltron | yeah prefetches heh |
| 18:47.49 | ScytheBlade1 | Oh man |
| 18:47.52 | Mr_Rabies2 | that's not from a movie, i don't think |
| 18:47.57 | ScytheBlade1 | That thread is horrible and awesome at the same time |
| 18:48.01 | Mr_Rabies2 | that's a character from the anime "death note" |
| 18:48.04 | art3mis | ive seen it before but im drawing a total blank |
| 18:48.18 | haste | art3mis: Death Note |
| 18:48.18 | art3mis | ahh thanks |
| 18:48.29 | herzogthc | ya that's certainly death note |
| 18:48.30 | Mr_Rabies2 | oh apparently it was from a movie |
| 18:48.30 | haste | Mr_Rabies2: it's from the second movie afaik |
| 18:48.33 | Mr_Rabies2 | The series has been adapted into a pair of live-action films (released in Japan on June 17, 2006 and November 3, 2006 respectively), |
| 18:48.41 | Mr_Rabies2 | i didn't realize there were any live action movies |
| 18:48.52 | ts|skrom | man my day is shot |
| 18:48.58 | haste | art3mis: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0810827/ and http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0758742/ |
| 18:49.10 | haste | the movies don't follow the manga as close as the anime does |
| 18:49.33 | ts|skrom | just found the most interesting website : http://tvtropes.org discusses various phenomena about tv/comics/games/literature |
| 18:49.39 | herzogthc | "Where there's smoke, there's Microsoft" says xbox 360 users |
| 18:49.40 | herzogthc | lol |
| 18:49.45 | art3mis | heh |
| 18:49.50 | Kaydeethree | tvtropes is awesome. spent way too much time there lately |
| 18:49.54 | art3mis | aside from the new hellsing name me one that does ;P |
| 18:50.41 | haste | art3mis: a lot of anime follow the manga, death note especially close tho' |
| 18:50.45 | Thunder_Child | that post hurt my head |
| 18:51.25 | ScytheBlade1 | It hurts a lot of people, I'm sure |
| 18:51.35 | ScytheBlade1 | Can you imagine the Q&A people at blizzard reading that? |
| 18:52.01 | deltron | death note is pretty cool |
| 18:52.17 | herzogthc | haste: Naruto also has a freaky close manga relation |
| 18:52.19 | herzogthc | well |
| 18:52.21 | herzogthc | after shippuden anwyay |
| 18:52.35 | haste | I don't watch naruto :3 |
| 18:52.47 | Thunder_Child | i bet blizz gives free booze and drugs to it's Q&A department |
| 18:52.52 | herzogthc | I own vol's 1-10 of it's U.S. viz released manga |
| 18:53.02 | herzogthc | and have seen every episode, it's eerie when you see pictures in teh anime that you saw in teh comic itself :) |
| 18:53.47 | deltron | what about anime's that use manga in it? |
| 18:53.48 | deltron | like FLCL |
| 18:53.58 | herzogthc | man does microsoft not know how to interface power distribution via a circuitboard? |
| 18:54.22 | herzogthc | I'm sick of seeing people talk about microsofts shit overheating and they are just like 'yeah we knew, we didn't care' |
| 18:54.23 | herzogthc | heh |
| 18:55.04 | ts|skrom | lol quote: The Dark Tower series by Stephen King, set in a post-apocalyptic world where oil refineries, nuclear-powered water pumps, and the music of ZZ Top co-exist with wizards, succubi, and gunslingers who fight for truth and justice in the Arthurian tradition. Generally sold as... being written by Stephen King. <-- from a discussion on sci-fi vs. fantasy |
| 18:55.56 | Lunessa | ... totally NOT what the series was like at all. |
| 18:58.04 | Chaotic_D | is there a difference between nil and "" ? |
| 18:58.41 | foxlit | Yes |
| 18:58.43 | cladhaire | yes |
| 18:58.46 | foxlit | nil is nil, and "" is "" |
| 18:58.54 | Chaotic_D | what is ""? |
| 18:58.59 | foxlit | An empty string |
| 18:59.46 | herzogthc | yay new wine release today |
| 19:00.34 | Kaydeethree | woo |
| 19:00.42 | Chaotic_D | so if ~= "" will not catch nill... ok. |
| 19:01.03 | Kaso | if var and var ~= "" then |
| 19:01.28 | Chaotic_D | I just don't know why the hell all I get is nil values. |
| 19:02.14 | Kaso | where does your variable come from? |
| 19:03.25 | Chaotic_D | local qid,_,_,_,stype,sname,sid,etype,ename,eid,_,_,_ = LightHeaded:IterateQuestInfo(quest,useitem) |
| 19:04.04 | Chaotic_D | even when I send it a quest title and level that should match, I get nil values back. |
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| 19:04.28 | cladhaire | what the hell is useitem? |
| 19:04.32 | cladhaire | you need to pass a level |
| 19:05.19 | Chaotic_D | it is a level. I just put it in useitem because I would have had to rewrite everything to add another variable. |
| 19:05.38 | cladhaire | wow. |
| 19:06.18 | Chaotic_D | it's a variable that's not in use when a quest is accepting or turning in anyways. |
| 19:07.16 | JoshBorke | rename useitem to useitemOrLevel |
| 19:07.43 | Chaotic_D | heh. semantics. I'll get around to it. |
| 19:07.46 | herzogthc | hahah syntax errors on the armory woo |
| 19:08.29 | cladhaire | running /dump LightHeaded:IterateQuestInfo("Retrieving the Goods", 69)() |
| 19:08.31 | cladhaire | returns values |
| 19:08.44 | Chaotic_D | I tried quest = "Etched Sigil" useitem = "1" and it still doesn't work. |
| 19:08.53 | cladhaire | a number is not a string |
| 19:08.56 | cladhaire | a number is a number.l |
| 19:09.00 | Chaotic_D | oh. -_-; |
| 19:09.13 | Lunessa | "My performance is suffering slightly, yet I want low memory mostly because my cpu fan is annoying(loud) as hell; I would prefer for everything to run quieter." --- *headdesk* |
| 19:09.21 | Chaotic_D | well it matches it to a string. and doesn't it take it from a string in the questlog? :S |
| 19:10.17 | zenzelezz | if the author tells you to use a number, use a number |
| 19:10.48 | Lopeppeppy | Low memory equals loud fan.... new one by me, Lunessa! *laughs along* |
| 19:11.09 | Chaotic_D | no, I think I'll keep using a string and expect it to give me different results. dur. |
| 19:11.20 | Lunessa | This guy wanted a low memory compilation of addons for that very reason. |
| 19:12.28 | Lopeppeppy | That's just... bone-headed. *laugh* Addons don't make your CPU hot, WoW does. But you can't convince them it's raining if their head is stuck up their behind. |
| 19:12.37 | Chaotic_D | why isn't it converting the string to a number, if the function takes a number? |
| 19:12.43 | cladhaire | ... |
| 19:12.46 | Lej | I use the advanced dragging example from http://www.wowwiki.com/HOWTO:_Make_a_Frame_Draggable to make the child frames of a frame draggable. Problem is that if I drag a childframe and then move the parentframe the childframe I dragged won't follow the parentframe anymore, why? |
| 19:12.50 | cladhaire | areyou kidding me? |
| 19:13.03 | Lopeppeppy | Random SSC question -- decent warrior tank drops, or no? |
| 19:13.15 | cladhaire | Chaotic_D: follow the rules.. |
| 19:13.26 | cladhaire | again, /dump LightHeaded:IterateQuestInfo("Retrieving the Goods", 69)() works JUST fine. |
| 19:13.28 | zenzelezz | Lopeppeppy: excluding T5 pieces? |
| 19:13.36 | Lopeppeppy | Excluding, yup. |
| 19:13.44 | Industrial | Fight for the kingdom, fighting with steel. Kill all of them, their blood is our seal. Fight till the last if the enemy is dead. Right through their blood that we gladly have shed! |
| 19:13.54 | Industrial | \m/ >_< \m/ MANOWAR! |
| 19:13.58 | [Ammo] | stop listening to manwhore |
| 19:14.05 | zenzelezz | Lopeppeppy: yes. The Morogrim ring is imba, the neck from Karathress can be really good, but depends on your other gear |
| 19:14.17 | zenzelezz | excellent waist from Leotheras |
| 19:14.20 | Industrial | right, lol. ride. |
| 19:14.21 | cladhaire | and it is converted, downstream |
| 19:15.27 | Chaotic_D | "Lua provides automatic conversion between string and number values at run time. Any arithmetic operation applied to a string tries to convert this string to a number, following the usual conversion rules. Conversely, whenever a number is used where a string is expected, the number is converted to a string, in a reasonable format." |
| 19:15.38 | zenzelezz | why do you still fight this? |
| 19:15.44 | Chaotic_D | I'm not! |
| 19:15.44 | cladhaire | Chaotic_D: STOP.. right now. |
| 19:15.50 | cladhaire | I wrote the damn code.. I know what it does and doesn't do. |
| 19:15.51 | Chaotic_D | but I have a string! so I have to turn it into a number! |
| 19:15.52 | cladhaire | THIS WORKS: /dump LightHeaded:IterateQuestInfo("Retrieving the Goods", 69)() |
| 19:15.57 | zenzelezz | yes you are |
| 19:15.58 | cladhaire | RUN THAT CODE |
| 19:16.05 | JoshBorke | Chaotic_D: tonumber(<string>) |
| 19:16.09 | cladhaire | if you need to convert a string to a number, use tonumber(string)( |
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| 19:16.31 | Chaotic_D | right. well I was trying to figure out how to do that. |
| 19:16.42 | zenzelezz | then you had a most peculiar way to ask |
| 19:17.06 | Chaotic_D | yes. I am most peculiar. |
| 19:17.36 | cladhaire | Chaotic_D: have you tried the code i sent? |
| 19:17.37 | cladhaire | pleasE? |
| 19:17.50 | Chaotic_D | I'm getting to it. I'm also slow. >:S |
| 19:19.38 | Chaotic_D | ok. I ran the code. it works. |
| 19:20.44 | cladhaire | then something else is being done wrong |
| 19:20.48 | cladhaire | if yours still doesn't. |
| 19:21.00 | Chaotic_D | thank you for ... I haven't even started yet! |
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| 19:22.46 | Lej | I use the advanced dragging example from http://www.wowwiki.com/HOWTO:_Make_a_Frame_Draggable to make the child frames of a frame draggable. Problem is that if I drag a childframe and then move the parentframe the childframe I dragged won't follow the parentframe anymore, why? |
| 19:23.14 | cladhaire | because the frame you dragged has been reparented. |
| 19:23.16 | foxlit | Anchors are broken if you drag |
| 19:23.25 | cladhaire | re-anchored |
| 19:23.25 | cladhaire | sorry |
| 19:23.43 | Lej | ok, so I create a new anchor? |
| 19:23.54 | cladhaire | you SetPoint it. |
| 19:23.58 | foxlit | Yeah |
| 19:24.21 | Lej | I see |
| 19:26.07 | Lej | so it doesn't matter which point I use for SetPoint then? |
| 19:26.35 | Lej | I just ChildFrame:SetPoint("BOTTOMLEFT", "ParentFrame"); |
| 19:28.12 | foxlit | No, there's a problem there |
| 19:28.20 | Legorol | that won't do what you think it will do |
| 19:28.21 | Lej | or TOPLEFT otherwise height and width will get messed up |
| 19:28.23 | foxlit | You'll move the child frame by creating an achor |
| 19:28.43 | foxlit | You need to make sure that your new anchor keeps the frame's relative position to the parent frame |
| 19:28.58 | Legorol | and that it doesn't cause the frame to be resized |
| 19:29.34 | Lej | well I added this:SetPoint("TOPLEFT",this:GetParent()) to the end of the <OnMouseDown> and it seems to do just what I wanted? |
| 19:29.44 | Chaotic_D | what is the () after the LightHeaded:IterateQuestInfo(...) ? |
| 19:30.01 | JoshBorke | runs it as a function |
| 19:30.44 | Legorol | more correctly: attempts to run the first value returned by IterateQuestInfo as a function |
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| 19:31.20 | foxlit | Quits: Adys (".)(.") |
| 19:31.45 | Lej | wow sorry I accidently added it to <onmousedown> which was wrong. When adding it to <onmouseup> it doesn't seem to work like I wanted |
| 19:33.47 | Industrial | lua> ('a'):len() |
| 19:33.47 | cladbot | Industrial: 1, |
| 19:33.51 | Industrial | good, good |
| 19:34.10 | Chaotic_D | even this gives me nil values returned. local qid,sharable,level,reqlev,stype,sname,sid,etype,ename,eid,exp,rep,series = LightHeaded:IterateQuestInfo("Retrieving the Goods", 69) |
| 19:36.13 | Mr_Rabies2 | argh |
| 19:36.16 | Mr_Rabies2 | i'm going to go insane |
| 19:36.22 | Kirkburn | Quick note for those interested in BioShock, I have a BioShock wiki up and running at bioshock.wikia.com |
| 19:36.25 | Mr_Rabies2 | my mouse keeps registering single clicks as doubleclicks |
| 19:36.41 | Mr_Rabies2 | i guess i need to hit up logitech and get a replacement |
| 19:37.38 | Lunessa | kirkburn - single-handedly wiking gaming. :) |
| 19:38.16 | Kirkburn | I havem't been able to play wow in aaages :( |
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| 19:38.38 | Mr_Rabies2 | whynot? :[ |
| 19:38.41 | Lunessa | :( why? |
| 19:38.48 | Kirkburn | Linux work PC |
| 19:39.09 | Kirkburn | my own PCs are safe an sound several thousand miles away |
| 19:39.33 | Lej | ok so something like: |
| 19:39.36 | Lej | this:SetPoint("TOPLEFT",this:GetParent(),"TOPLEFT",this:GetLeft()-this:GetParent():GetLeft(), this:GetTop()-this:GetParent():GetTop()) |
| 19:41.20 | Cidan | wine? |
| 19:41.22 | Cidan | :D |
| 19:45.31 | zenzelezz | heh, that's new... svchost.exe access violation when logging out as part of a reboot |
| 19:46.02 | Lej | anyone got linkage to some info on how to make frames resizable by dragging a corner? |
| 19:46.57 | Mr_Rabies2 | maybe take a look at fluidframes' code |
| 19:47.07 | Mr_Rabies2 | it uses corner resizing and stuff |
| 19:47.15 | Lej | oki |
| 19:47.26 | Kirkburn | Morning Cairenn |
| 19:47.46 | Cairenn | hey Kirkburn |
| 19:48.23 | art3mis | hehe im waiting for kirk to make a wiki text based choose your own advwenture mmorpg |
| 19:48.46 | Kirkburn | lol, one probably does exist out there, possibly on wikia |
| 19:48.50 | art3mis | heh |
| 19:49.02 | art3mis | in one channel on irc our calc bot had a calc your own adventure |
| 19:49.14 | art3mis | it was awesome and spammy ;P |
| 19:52.02 | Lunessa | Something like Article then random "go to" links" that select something else goofy for you to read. |
| 19:52.07 | Chaotic_D | meh. seems GetQuestInfo works, and IterateQuestInfo is for multiple pages and doesn't work. |
| 19:52.15 | Lunessa | .... Oh, wait, wikkis are like that anyway... |
| 19:52.19 | Chaotic_D | er, doesn't work the way I use it. |
| 19:53.35 | Lej | what are the <OnMouseUp> <OnEvent> and such called? |
| 19:53.42 | JoshBorke | OnMouseUp? |
| 19:54.11 | Kaso | Im not sure there is and offcial name |
| 19:54.12 | JoshBorke | and OnEvent |
| 19:54.13 | Kaso | callback script handlers ? |
| 19:54.48 | Lej | I see, was trying to search for info but was hard when I didn't know what to search for |
| 19:55.54 | Kaso | http://www.wowwiki.com/Widget_Handlers |
| 19:56.18 | Lej | thanks |
| 19:57.30 | Mr_Rabies2 | there we go |
| 19:57.48 | Mr_Rabies2 | just gutted my mouse, we'll see if it likes double clicking spontaneously now >:[ |
| 19:58.00 | Lunessa | Seems ... drastic. |
| 19:58.13 | Mr_Rabies2 | it does it all the time |
| 19:58.15 | Lunessa | Mouse malfunctions? EVISCERATE! |
| 19:58.24 | Lej | animal curelty :( |
| 19:58.27 | Mr_Rabies2 | seems that gutting it and cleaning everything out seems to help for a while |
| 19:58.35 | Kaydeethree | hm? I take my mouse/keyboard apart and put them back together all the time |
| 19:58.42 | Lunessa | Mice are cheap... |
| 19:58.44 | Kaydeethree | same thing for guns, they last longer that way |
| 19:58.49 | Mr_Rabies2 | mine wasn't |
| 19:58.50 | Kaydeethree | but I like my mouse... |
| 19:58.52 | Mr_Rabies2 | 60 bucks :x |
| 19:58.57 | Lunessa | Unless you have something wickedly fancy. |
| 19:59.14 | Mr_Rabies2 | if it still likes to break i'll send it in to logitech to repair |
| 19:59.16 | Lunessa | I use a trackball, so wtf do I know. |
| 19:59.19 | Mr_Rabies2 | i have two mx1000s |
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| 20:03.18 | Kaso | Umm, you cant hit balls with a bike? |
| 20:03.38 | Cairenn | an orange, because ducks don't have armpits |
| 20:04.50 | Cairenn | precisely |
| 20:05.55 | Lunessa | Fish? |
| 20:05.56 | Mr_Rabies2 | you can, in fact, hit balls with a bike but i'd rather not go into details |
| 20:06.19 | Cairenn | heh, yeah, run into something and end up on the crossbar instead of the seat .... ouch |
| 20:06.31 | Lunessa | every man in the channel just winced. |
| 20:06.46 | Cairenn | (and guess what, it hurts just as damn much for girls too *whimper*) |
| 20:06.59 | Lunessa | I know, I've heard. |
| 20:07.02 | Mr_Rabies2 | okay i just gutted my mouse's wireless receiver too just because i was in a "tear stuff up and put it back together" mood |
| 20:07.10 | Cairenn | I know, I've experienced |
| 20:08.19 | Lunessa | We used to play stickball in a courtyard sort of thing with a low fence/railing around it. Fellas, let me tell you right now, never vault the railing/fence to retrieve a ball unless you want to recover yours too. |
| 20:08.51 | Cairenn | Lunessa: eep |
| 20:08.56 | Mr_Rabies2 | oh i took a grounder like a champ once |
| 20:09.01 | Mr_Rabies2 | hit a rock and shot up |
| 20:09.02 | Mr_Rabies2 | no fun |
| 20:09.05 | Lunessa | Ice pack |
| 20:09.09 | Lunessa | medic |
| 20:09.13 | Mr_Rabies2 | not quite but it wasn't enjoyable |
| 20:09.17 | Lunessa | demerol! |
| 20:09.41 | Mr_Rabies2 | this was in elementary school age so the baseballs weren't exactly moving fast |
| 20:09.43 | Mr_Rabies2 | but still |
| 20:09.50 | Mr_Rabies2 | not enjoyable by any means |
| 20:09.51 | Lunessa | Doesn't matter. |
| 20:09.52 | Mr_Rabies2 | :/ |
| 20:10.35 | Lunessa | I had a smallish dog (basenji, 35lbs) who could, and did un-erringly hit below the belt every time. |
| 20:11.14 | Kirkburn | >_> |
| 20:11.21 | Mr_Rabies2 | situations like that weren't what made me decide to quit baseball |
| 20:11.23 | Kirkburn | this is a lovely conversation to walk in on :P |
| 20:11.31 | Mr_Rabies2 | it was mostly because i kept getting hit in the torso by the pitcher |
| 20:11.56 | Mr_Rabies2 | freakin kids need to learn how to aim before they play baseball |
| 20:12.04 | Chaotic_D | where do I find info on iter? |
| 20:12.11 | Mr_Rabies2 | i actually got hit in the face a few times too :[ |
| 20:12.15 | Mr_Rabies2 | that's not much fun either |
| 20:12.17 | Cairenn | ouch! |
| 20:12.26 | Lunessa | For most pre-teens, aim isn't all that important. lol |
| 20:12.45 | Kirkburn | This reminds me of a song my sister once taught me... |
| 20:12.59 | Kaydeethree | I could go so many ways with that satement |
| 20:13.00 | Mr_Rabies2 | friend of mine lost 5 of his teeth in a game once |
| 20:13.01 | Kirkburn | "If you sprinkle when you tinkle, please be sweet and wipe the seat" |
| 20:13.03 | Chaotic_D | ah, here we go... stateless iterators. |
| 20:13.07 | Lunessa | Ahhh... Sublime's cover of "Smoke Two Joints" is ... well, sublime. |
| 20:13.17 | Mr_Rabies2 | took a baseball bat to the mouth |
| 20:13.20 | Cairenn | Kaydeethree: hehhehe, I was busy not saying anything myself ;) |
| 20:13.31 | Mr_Rabies2 | was catcher |
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| 20:14.06 | AD|sneg | hello people |
| 20:14.15 | Cairenn | hi AD|sneg |
| 20:14.19 | Mr_Rabies2 | wasn't enjoyable to have to stop the game to call the paramedics for the kid bleeding profusely from the mouth |
| 20:14.36 | Cairenn | Lunessa: whole lot better than curved ones ;) |
| 20:14.52 | Lunessa | Cairenn: SO not going THERE. |
| 20:15.08 | Kaydeethree | no kidding |
| 20:15.12 | Mr_Rabies2 | i once beat a fully grown kodiak bear in a wrestling match. |
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| 20:15.29 | Lunessa | And then you woke up late for school? |
| 20:15.38 | Chaotic_D | Mr_Rabies, were you naked? |
| 20:15.38 | zenzelezz | then he quit EQ2 |
| 20:15.58 | Mr_Rabies2 | talking about my exploits about fighting animals is always a great nonsequitor when people are arguing in LFG |
| 20:16.01 | Cairenn | Mr_Rabies: auto-respond STOP |
| 20:16.06 | Mr_Rabies2 | sorry gosh :[ |
| 20:16.12 | Mr_Rabies2 | i may put some exceptions in |
| 20:16.15 | Mr_Rabies2 | but i'm lazy |
| 20:16.33 | Cairenn | this isn't the 1980's any more, IRC wars don't really happen any longer |
| 20:16.45 | zenzelezz | lies |
| 20:16.56 | ScytheBlade1 | vim > emacs |
| 20:17.00 | Kaydeethree | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:17.14 | ScytheBlade1 | *waits |
| 20:17.15 | Mr_Rabies2 | i hang out on many other networks :P |
| 20:17.20 | Mr_Rabies2 | irc wars happen often elsewhere |
| 20:17.32 | Lunessa | ... |
| 20:17.34 | Cairenn | feeexxxxx iiiiittttttt |
| 20:17.37 | Mr_Rabies2 | on *:action:*rabies*:#:{ timerantislap $+ $nick 1 5 notice $nick spammy stuff goes here } |
| 20:17.42 | Mr_Rabies2 | i'll put some exceptions in i guess |
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| 20:17.49 | snegoviK | just wondering, is there a way to save the variable for later use but so that it gets deleted at the end of the session? |
| 20:18.00 | zenzelezz | IRC was happen as soon as Cairenn truly goes AFK |
| 20:18.16 | zenzelezz | *wars |
| 20:18.17 | Mr_Rabies2 | i once had an irc war with myself |
| 20:18.30 | Mr_Rabies2 | i put my desktop and laptop in the same channel |
| 20:18.33 | Mr_Rabies2 | turned this script on: |
| 20:18.48 | Cairenn | zenzelezz: yes, but do I ever truly go afk? |
| 20:18.54 | Mr_Rabies2 | on *:action:*Rabies*:#:{ describe $chan slaps $nick around a bit with $read(slaps.txt) } |
| 20:19.01 | Mr_Rabies2 | on both sides |
| 20:19.04 | Mr_Rabies2 | and slapped myself. |
| 20:19.05 | Kaydeethree | oi vey |
| 20:19.17 | Kaydeethree | I'm surprised you didn't get flooded off of the server |
| 20:19.19 | Cairenn | see? see? spelled both ways! hah! |
| 20:19.47 | zenzelezz | lol |
| 20:19.51 | Mr_Rabies2 | and slaps.txt is my list of things to slap people with |
| 20:19.57 | Lunessa | I lay odds Cairenn just has a bluetooth link to the screen in her left glasses lens and an eidetic memory for the last 45 mins of irc. |
| 20:20.18 | Mr_Rabies2 | i should update it |
| 20:20.19 | Mr_Rabies2 | but ehh |
| 20:20.26 | Mr_Rabies2 | that requires effort |
| 20:20.41 | Cairenn | someone answer poor snegoviK |
| 20:21.05 | zenzelezz | woot, I get replies from BOTH of Rabies' clients |
| 20:21.09 | zenzelezz | how stupid is that |
| 20:21.11 | Mr_Rabies2 | yup |
| 20:21.11 | Mr_Rabies2 | :D |
| 20:21.16 | Cairenn | precisely |
| 20:21.23 | Cairenn | feeexxxxx iiiittttttt |
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| 20:21.32 | Mr_Rabies2 | i'm trying to think of how to add an exception |
| 20:21.44 | Kaydeethree | snegoviK, sure. just create a global or something, but make sure it's not on your savedvariables list |
| 20:21.46 | zenzelezz | it's even in chicken-mode, using notice instead of privmsg or just channel message |
| 20:21.52 | Mr_Rabies2 | exactly |
| 20:21.54 | Mr_Rabies2 | it's awesome |
| 20:22.02 | zenzelezz | no, it's what nubs do |
| 20:22.22 | zenzelezz | it's like everyone's first mIRC script |
| 20:22.45 | Lunessa | I'm totally an IRC n00b. |
| 20:22.48 | Cairenn | ooooooo, dems fighting words! |
| 20:22.56 | Mr_Rabies2 | it's all encompassing, annoying, and does the job |
| 20:23.06 | Mr_Rabies2 | it's the perfect antislap measure |
| 20:23.14 | Mr_Rabies2 | i once had it so it'd just slap them back |
| 20:23.16 | zenzelezz | hardly |
| 20:23.26 | Mr_Rabies2 | but that got me banned from a number of channels from people with similar scripts |
| 20:23.26 | Cairenn | poo, you're no fun Mr_Rabies, here I was trying to start up trouble |
| 20:23.32 | zenzelezz | Mr. T pities the fools that have low enough self esteem to write an auto-reply to slaps |
| 20:23.37 | Mr_Rabies2 | they'd slap me and the channel would just explode with emotes |
| 20:23.55 | Kaydeethree | oh, wow... I'm amazed they've let the thread get that far... "FEEDBACK: Resilience changes". 57 pages, 1107 responses |
| 20:24.13 | Lunessa | Cairenn: Wait, deep breathing by you doesn't constitute "starting trouble?" |
| 20:24.19 | Mr_Rabies2 | well, zenz, it's mostly for another network |
| 20:24.29 | Kaydeethree | ...! |
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| 20:24.32 | Mr_Rabies2 | i'm trying to decide how to disable it on a network or channel wide basis |
| 20:24.33 | snegoviK | Kaydeethree, so if i run foo() with /foo and it says MY_GLOBAL_VAR = 5, later if i run bar() with /foo fetch MY_GLOBAL_VAR will still have value 5? |
| 20:24.36 | Cairenn | sweet lil 'ol me? naw |
| 20:24.45 | Mr_Rabies2 | but i can't really figure out how to do it, hrmm |
| 20:24.50 | zenzelezz | then just add an if ($chan != #wowi-lounge) or something |
| 20:25.00 | Mr_Rabies2 | maybe |
| 20:25.06 | Mr_Rabies2 | i'll see how that works |
| 20:25.13 | Kaydeethree | ya |
| 20:25.20 | zenzelezz | beware my syntax, I haven't used mIRC for years |
| 20:25.29 | Mr_Rabies2 | i have a lot of irc war related scripts |
| 20:25.35 | Mr_Rabies2 | i've got a great one here lemme turn it on |
| 20:25.45 | Aeorith|37 | Hola people I was directed here for some macro help / addon.. :) I'm trying to make a macro that does this: Failed cast because of oom - use mana agate.. possible? |
| 20:25.52 | Cairenn | snegoviK: told you the channel wakes up later on ;) |
| 20:26.13 | Mr_Rabies2 | ahem |
| 20:26.14 | Lunessa | Aeorith|37: Nope. |
| 20:26.35 | Aeorith|37 | Okay, thanks anyway:) |
| 20:26.41 | Lunessa | You're welcome. |
| 20:27.07 | snegoviK | Cairenn> i ve been here yesterday :) i ve been redirected from dongle here, i kept on asking them stupid questions regarding general wow api :) |
| 20:27.12 | Mr_Rabies2 | okay i'll turn it off now :P |
| 20:27.29 | cladhaire | snegoviK: no question is stupid.. and we make you ask here, because i bet you $$ someone else has asked the same question :P |
| 20:27.35 | Mr_Rabies2 | on *:text:*:#wowi-lounge: { notice zenzelezz < $+ $nick $+ > $$1- } |
| 20:27.42 | Mr_Rabies2 | on any text in the channel |
| 20:27.51 | zenzelezz | oh, I was getting something? I ignored noticed from you after the earlier one |
| 20:27.51 | Mr_Rabies2 | it notices zenz who said what |
| 20:27.55 | Mr_Rabies2 | oh yeah |
| 20:27.56 | Mr_Rabies2 | :X |
| 20:28.09 | Mr_Rabies2 | so when anyone said anything |
| 20:28.16 | Mr_Rabies2 | it'd go, for example |
| 20:28.20 | snegoviK | cladhaire, oh you are so sweet ^^ |
| 20:28.29 | Mr_Rabies2 | <Lunessa> You're welcome. |
| 20:28.33 | Mr_Rabies2 | for zenz in a notice |
| 20:28.42 | Mr_Rabies2 | it has an actual use though, for relaying across networks :P |
| 20:28.45 | zenzelezz | you must hang around some interesting channels :-p |
| 20:28.59 | Mr_Rabies2 | occasionally i'll relay like, developer chats and stuff across networks |
| 20:29.26 | Kaydeethree | hm. I desire chocolate. |
| 20:29.30 | snegoviK | btw, wowi says that i should include unchanged files in my zip, does it add missing files automatically or what? |
| 20:29.33 | snegoviK | sounds dodgy |
| 20:29.39 | snegoviK | shouldnt* |
| 20:29.52 | Cairenn | where the hell is shirik |
| 20:30.21 | herzogthc | Cairenn: Probably doing what anybody with any sense would do on a Friday afternoon, fleeing from work early and getting ready to party |
| 20:30.40 | herzogthc | I've been running the 'get out of work scenario' in my head for an hour and a half now and can't come up with anything that would work |
| 20:30.41 | herzogthc | :( |
| 20:30.51 | Lunessa | Come on barbie, let's go party? |
| 20:30.52 | herzogthc | I just wanna go home to my wife |
| 20:30.54 | Cairenn | that's why I'm always in here with you guys |
| 20:30.56 | herzogthc | and not be here |
| 20:31.00 | Cairenn | Lunessa: no, just, no |
| 20:31.00 | snegoviK | my party consisted of watching the last part of x-men :) |
| 20:31.05 | herzogthc | (here as in work, not here as in wowi-lounge:) |
| 20:31.40 | herzogthc | I fail to understand why my company persistently lets other departments work from home but the I.T. department cannot and must be in teh office between 8:30-5pm |
| 20:31.44 | herzogthc | liek we're productive in that timeframe |
| 20:31.48 | herzogthc | let us work 8:30p-5a |
| 20:31.50 | herzogthc | you'll get 6x the work done |
| 20:31.56 | Cairenn | heh, no kidding |
| 20:32.37 | herzogthc | I mean, when the wife goes to sleep I'm just gonna go back to working and being productive. Lol. I have done nothing actually physically @ work today |
| 20:34.02 | Lunessa | IT people are vampiric in schedule, sagacious in knowledge, juvenile in humor, and dangerous to cross. |
| 20:34.13 | ScytheBlade1 | I like that. |
| 20:34.21 | herzogthc | Lunessa: You also failed to mention 99% fucking crazy |
| 20:34.24 | herzogthc | or at least schizotypal |
| 20:34.59 | herzogthc | oh wait; if you asked a normal person, they'd probably tell you schizotypal is crazy. :) |
| 20:35.08 | Cairenn | no, just go with fucking crazy |
| 20:35.11 | Lunessa | Now, having described my personality, I shall leave the rest as an exercise to the astute reader. |
| 20:35.16 | snegoviK | its probably cus other depts go to work anyway, they cant do it either way :) |
| 20:35.27 | snegoviK | but if u let the it dept telework, they will never visit the office ^^ |
| 20:35.39 | herzogthc | that's true |
| 20:35.41 | Lej | I'm a bit confuse on how SetPoint works. I create a childframe and want to place it in the upper right corner of the parrent frame. Why does this make it cover the entire top on the parent frame? local f = CreateFrame("Frame", "Child", Parent, "ChildTemplate"); f:SetPoint("TOPRIGHT", Parent, "TOPRIGHT", 0, 0) |
| 20:35.43 | herzogthc | I certainly wouldn't be back. |
| 20:35.45 | herzogthc | At least, not during the day :) |
| 20:35.49 | snegoviK | haha, u see :)) |
| 20:36.10 | Mr_Rabies2 | okay someone slap me |
| 20:36.20 | Chaotic_D | if quest = " |
| 20:36.35 | Mr_Rabies2 | you should only get one response |
| 20:36.35 | snegoviK | omg... |
| 20:36.42 | Mr_Rabies2 | nope |
| 20:36.45 | Mr_Rabies2 | script = broked |
| 20:36.48 | Mr_Rabies2 | one sec |
| 20:36.48 | Cairenn | good, now get rid of that one as well |
| 20:36.57 | snegoviK | hahahaha |
| 20:37.00 | Mr_Rabies2 | one sec |
| 20:37.02 | snegoviK | get a life man :) |
| 20:37.08 | Cairenn | no, no more sec! |
| 20:37.21 | herzogthc | zzzzzz |
| 20:37.24 | herzogthc | it needs to be 5 |
| 20:37.25 | Chaotic_D | I was wondering if quest = "The Quest of Some Name (Part 1)" then how do I trim off the " (Part 1)"? will this work? local title = quest:gmatch(".+ (Part %d)") |
| 20:37.42 | Mr_Rabies2 | okay, try again cair |
| 20:37.51 | Mr_Rabies2 | i'm trying to fix this one before i fix the one on my dektop |
| 20:37.55 | snegoviK | i just noticed someone already wrote AceCalc |
| 20:38.01 | Bleeter | Kaydeethree, wereHamster: ping |
| 20:38.02 | Mr_Rabies2 | okay, got it |
| 20:38.06 | Cairenn | getting one, instead of two |
| 20:38.06 | Mr_Rabies2 | gonna fix the one on my desktop now |
| 20:38.07 | Bleeter | any other WoW Winer, ping |
| 20:38.11 | Cairenn | danke |
| 20:38.15 | ScytheBlade1 | pong |
| 20:38.36 | snegoviK | oh man i really dont want to go to arena |
| 20:38.41 | snegoviK | but my team is bugging me |
| 20:38.52 | snegoviK | i want to add variables to my calculator :) |
| 20:38.56 | ScytheBlade1 | Bleeter, pong |
| 20:39.00 | Bleeter | ScytheBlade1: do you have KDE installed? Do you have the PTR client installed? I'm looking for someone who can confirm to me that sound plays on PTR with the artsd sound subsystem |
| 20:39.25 | Bleeter | ScytheBlade1: there's a report in the Wine AppDB that this combo works, but I can't get it here on my initial tests |
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| 20:39.31 | ScytheBlade1 | Bleeter, yes, yes, and I'd have to recompile it with the one flag I forcefully disabled, because artsd sucks hard. |
| 20:39.32 | Bleeter | *get ti to work |
| 20:39.38 | Bleeter | aye |
| 20:40.01 | ScytheBlade1 | Hmm |
| 20:40.01 | Bleeter | ScytheBlade1: as one of the maintainers of the WoW 2.2 appdb entry, I'm not accepting that as a soluction ;) |
| 20:40.09 | ScytheBlade1 | I wonder what exactly I'd have to compile to get it. |
| 20:40.49 | Kaso | Chaotic_D, local title = quest:match("(.+) %(Part %d%)") is what you want i think |
| 20:40.53 | ScytheBlade1 | Bleeter, so it'd go WoW --> Wine --> artsd --> Alsa? |
| 20:41.03 | Bleeter | ScytheBlade1: correct |
| 20:41.06 | Chaotic_D | wait... if quest doesn't have "(Part 1)" in it, how do I make it just copy the title? |
| 20:41.33 | Chaotic_D | ohhh, brackets. |
| 20:41.36 | ScytheBlade1 | Let me see if I can just emerge artsd and get that to work. |
| 20:41.41 | Kaso | brackets signfy captures |
| 20:41.55 | Kaso | if you wanna use litteral brackets in your pattern you need to escape with % |
| 20:41.59 | Bleeter | ScytheBlade1: couldn't agree more... but if it helps point us in a direction of a solution, it's some pain I'm prepared to live with on my desktop for a little while until we can eradicate the artsd component |
| 20:42.00 | snegoviK | can u do perl-like (?:.+) ? |
| 20:42.17 | ScytheBlade1 | Bleeter, agreed |
| 20:42.24 | Kaso | you'll have to explain to me what that means in perl, i dont know |
| 20:43.08 | Cairenn | Mr_Rabies2: seriously though? thank you :) |
| 20:43.09 | snegoviK | it basically means the extract in brackets is used solely to match it against an operator. for e.g (:?[^,])+ |
| 20:43.09 | Chaotic_D | is there a better way than an if statement checking for "%)" at the end of the string? |
| 20:43.20 | ScytheBlade1 | Bleeter, I'll ping back once I've tested that. |
| 20:43.20 | snegoviK | it doesnt save the extract for later use |
| 20:43.24 | snegoviK | nor does it capture it |
| 20:43.43 | snegoviK | oh wait i m not making sense |
| 20:43.45 | snegoviK | forget it |
| 20:43.46 | snegoviK | :) |
| 20:43.46 | Bleeter | ScytheBlade1: thanks mate |
| 20:43.54 | Mr_Rabies2 | np cair |
| 20:43.58 | Mr_Rabies2 | i was just being lazy |
| 20:44.05 | snegoviK | its to do with masks, it doesnt save the thing to the mask |
| 20:44.11 | Mr_Rabies2 | slap me again, it should send you nothing |
| 20:44.34 | Cairenn | you just like having me slap you |
| 20:44.38 | Cairenn | I'm on to you! |
| 20:44.41 | Mr_Rabies2 | no comment |
| 20:44.44 | Chaotic_D | could I do ... local title = quest:match("(.+^( %(Part %d%)))") ? :> |
| 20:44.57 | Mr_Rabies2 | i plead the 5th or the canadian equivalent, whichever applies here |
| 20:44.59 | Cairenn | aaaah, nothing! thank you! |
| 20:45.02 | Chaotic_D | so that it gets everything that's not " %(Part %d%)" ?? |
| 20:45.30 | Chaotic_D | can you put a bracket inside another bracket like that? |
| 20:46.06 | Chaotic_D | no, I'm using brackets the old way, I think. :S |
| 20:46.40 | Kaso | you can only use ^ to negate inside sets |
| 20:47.23 | Chaotic_D | it is inside a set. I just wondered if I could use ^ on a set inside the other set. |
| 20:47.38 | Kaso | setts are defined with [] |
| 20:47.49 | Chaotic_D | ohhh. |
| 20:47.52 | Kaso | () define captures |
| 20:48.13 | Chaotic_D | ooops. I inadvertantly said what I meant. :> |
| 20:48.20 | Kaso | [abc] matches a single charater a b or c, [^abc] matches a signle charater not a b or c |
| 20:48.30 | Cairenn | Chaotic_D: lol |
| 20:48.36 | Kirkburn | Can I just ninja sweep past shouting BioShock Wiki. Perhaps on a rope, like tarzan. |
| 20:48.52 | Kirkburn | Yeah, ninja tarzan. |
| 20:49.00 | Lunessa | http://www.wired.com/gaming/virtualworlds/magazine/15-09/mf_pennyarcade |
| 20:50.02 | Chaotic_D | well then the revised one... yes? (maybe I'll just try it out) local title = quest:match("(.+^[ %(Part %d%)])") |
| 20:50.33 | Kaso | quest:match("(.+) [^%(Part %d%)]") is what you mean |
| 20:50.42 | Kaso | and no it wont work. |
| 20:50.50 | Chaotic_D | but what if it doesn't have " (Part 1)" |
| 20:51.03 | Chaotic_D | some of them do, some of them don't. |
| 20:51.25 | Kaso | I think to do your capture with a single match() pass you would need to use that scary boundry pattern |
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| 20:52.18 | Chaotic_D | I don't mind how it's done. I just want to cut " %(Part %d%)" off if it exists, and if it doesn't, to copy the whole thing. |
| 20:53.31 | Kaso | the one thing i think is missing from lua's pattern matching is the one thing you need |
| 20:53.39 | Kaso | to be able to negate a whole pattern |
| 20:53.58 | Kaso | like {fred} matchs any four chars but fred |
| 20:54.05 | Kaso | Someone correct me if there is a way to do that.. |
| 20:54.06 | Mr_Rabies2 | this article has the best title ever |
| 20:54.11 | Mr_Rabies2 | http://www.cnn.com/2007/TECH/science/08/22/dinosaur.speed.reut/index.html |
| 20:54.20 | Mr_Rabies2 | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:54.32 | Mr_Rabies2 | [img-dinosaur/david beckham] |
| 20:54.47 | Kaso | I propose a new speed unit |
| 20:54.51 | Mr_Rabies2 | the beckham |
| 20:55.00 | Mr_Rabies2 | yeah the t-rex runs roughly 5 beckhams |
| 20:55.21 | Chaotic_D | meh. I'll just do if quest:gmatch(" %(Part %d%)") then title = quest:gmatch("(.+) %(Part %d%)") else title = quest end |
| 20:55.33 | Kaso | it can be used for distance as well! "How far is the city? oh its 10 beckham-hours |
| 20:56.09 | Kaso | ( quest:gmatch("(.+) %(Part %d%)") or quest ) |
| 20:56.13 | Chaotic_D | can you do lua commands in here and have a bot spit out the output? :> |
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| 20:56.20 | Kaso | thats a more effecient way of doing the same thing |
| 20:56.24 | cladhaire | i'd prefer you msg cladbot with lua> |
| 20:56.25 | cladhaire | bt yes |
| 20:56.28 | cladhaire | lua> print("hi") |
| 20:56.28 | cladbot | cladhaire: hi |
| 20:56.33 | Lej | what handler do you use to catch rightclick on frame? |
| 20:57.06 | Lej | <OnMouseDown> only seem to catch left mouse button |
| 20:57.11 | Kaso | check args |
| 20:57.22 | zenzelezz | RegisterForClicks() or something? |
| 20:57.30 | zenzelezz | to make sure you're actuallty asking for right clicks |
| 20:57.45 | zenzelezz | god, my spelling is horrible tonight |
| 20:57.54 | cladhaire | Chaotic_D: alternatively, you can join #luabot and just issue lua> commands |
| 20:58.08 | Kaso | nClick gives arg1 LeftButton RightButton or MiddleButton Lej |
| 20:58.45 | Chaotic_D | >_<; |
| 20:58.58 | Kaso | i assume MouseDown and MouseUp do the same Lej |
| 20:59.08 | Chaotic_D | seems I can't get results from quest = "The Quest of Some Name (Part 1)"; print ( quest:gmatch("(.+) %(Part %d%)") or quest ) |
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| 21:00.03 | Kaso | Chaotic_D, you want :match() not gmatch |
| 21:00.14 | Lej | <OnClick>ClickFunc(self, button)</OnClick> ? |
| 21:00.20 | Chaotic_D | ooops. |
| 21:00.28 | Kaso | self, arg1 |
| 21:01.16 | Chaotic_D | awesomesauce. thanks. |
| 21:01.17 | zenzelezz | why arg1? |
| 21:01.31 | Kaso | cos thats what its called? |
| 21:01.57 | Kaydeethree | booo at forum maintenance |
| 21:02.06 | zenzelezz | I thought it became "OnClick: function(self,button,down)" in 2.0 |
| 21:02.44 | zenzelezz | I could at least swear I just used "button", not "arg1" in some of my code |
| 21:02.53 | Kaso | umm couldve done, i may be wrong |
| 21:02.53 | Lej | But only Button can register for OnClick? |
| 21:03.02 | Mr_Rabies2 | mmm |
| 21:03.03 | Mr_Rabies2 | kimchi flavored ramen |
| 21:03.07 | Kaso | i havent used it recently |
| 21:03.12 | Bleeter | damn, KDE's ugly .. /me shudders |
| 21:03.33 | Chaotic_D | booya! getting somewhere! |
| 21:03.56 | ScytheBlade1 | Bleeter, KDE is sexy. If it's ugly, YOU'RE the ugly one. ;) |
| 21:04.11 | ScytheBlade1 | Bleeter, that said, it's going to take no small amount of effort on my part to get arts up. It'll be a while. |
| 21:04.25 | Chaotic_D | I think it's lunch time. sitting here coding for days on end, my diet has been crap. granola bars and cereal... there's been fruit, but no vegetables save for the corn-based cereal occasionally. :S |
| 21:04.36 | Kaydeethree | ick. has more info come out on arts actually working? |
| 21:04.42 | Chaotic_D | no wait, I'm eating fruit. can't get scurvy. |
| 21:04.43 | ScytheBlade1 | ! |
| 21:04.53 | ScytheBlade1 | Kaydeethree, you're required as per Bleeter to try the PTR via arts. |
| 21:04.55 | ScytheBlade1 | :) |
| 21:05.07 | ScytheBlade1 | (Just be glad you're not on gentoo, where I have to recompile crap to get that to work) |
| 21:05.11 | Kaydeethree | that means I have to install arts... |
| 21:05.42 | Bleeter | ScytheBlade1: Ion's sexy... XFCE's sexy... KDE's ugly... but that aside, check the first thread in http://appdb.winehq.org/appview.php?iVersionId=8903#Comment-23946 |
| 21:05.42 | Bleeter | Kaydeethree: I'm trying to get the results that Pablo mentions, but I'll be stuffed if I can |
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| 21:07.18 | Mr_Rabies2 | attn |
| 21:07.24 | Mr_Rabies2 | kimchi is officially the best thing ever |
| 21:08.43 | Bleeter | ScytheBlade1: so you're a regular KDE user? If so, any idea what Pablo's on about in that thread re: 'Wine in (KDE's) Control Center'? I couldn't find it |
| 21:08.56 | ScytheBlade1 | Bleeter, no clue. That doesn't exist per my knowledge. |
| 21:09.06 | Kaydeethree | I figured he was just talking about winecfg |
| 21:09.18 | Bleeter | ScytheBlade1: aye, it'd help if the OP of the success made clear and precise statements :/ |
| 21:09.26 | ScytheBlade1 | Bleeter, no joke. |
| 21:10.52 | Bleeter | wow, I logged out of KDE sometime after I'd given up on the whole arts thing, back to XFCE.. bout 30 seconds later the Blizz Bug Buddy popped up =) |
| 21:11.00 | ScytheBlade1 | rofl |
| 21:12.28 | ScytheBlade1 | Wine isn't picking it up at all though |
| 21:12.34 | Bleeter | ScytheBlade1: you mean, you were using it already? or you're just about to test? |
| 21:12.58 | ScytheBlade1 | Bleeter, no, I just tested it in the KDE Control Panel. winecfg does *not* list it as a possible driver though. |
| 21:13.26 | Bleeter | tho prolly none directly relevant |
| 21:13.41 | ScytheBlade1 | Hmm, wine .95, need to update to .40 |
| 21:13.43 | ScytheBlade1 | I probably should |
| 21:15.48 | ScytheBlade1 | Ha. "The KDE sound system takes exclusive control over your audio hardware, blocking programs that may wish to use it directly." |
| 21:15.54 | ScytheBlade1 | NOT MINE. DIE ARTSD DIE. |
| 21:16.11 | art3mis | hrm thats pretty awesome |
| 21:16.22 | Bleeter | aye, artsd is the devil |
| 21:16.40 | art3mis | compiz si working... i elave the house and come back, boot into windows, reboot into nix and suddenly compiz doesnt work anymore |
| 21:16.53 | Kaydeethree | did the magic smoke come out? |
| 21:16.58 | Bleeter | compiz/beryl are also devils ;) |
| 21:17.02 | ScytheBlade1 | Bleeter, I actually have the hardware to support multi channel duplex and everything else nice via ALSA. Likewise I can run artsd and everything else side by side, no problems |
| 21:17.23 | ScytheBlade1 | Likewise, that may be problematic for me actually, if it fails through to ALSA... but we'll see |
| 21:18.47 | art3mis | hey scythe |
| 21:18.56 | art3mis | idling means no talking ;P |
| 21:20.16 | ScytheBlade1 | Wow. The PTR is broke. http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=1230364780&pageNo=1&sid=1#1 |
| 21:20.27 | ScytheBlade1 | Well, that entire thread, not just that post |
| 21:20.45 | Kaydeethree | ya, saw that. was fun screwing around with it |
| 21:21.51 | ScytheBlade1 | I wonder at times just how many things they can break at a time |
| 21:22.21 | ScytheBlade1 | Pink textures, gnome shoulders, NE boxing issues, AoE abilities, lightposts, animations... |
| 21:22.24 | ScytheBlade1 | I mean, the list goes on |
| 21:22.51 | ScytheBlade1 | Bleeter, for the record, I'm in amd64 on gentoo. |
| 21:22.52 | Bleeter | definately some major QC issues on this PTR |
| 21:23.03 | Kaydeethree | at least it's still on the ptr and not live |
| 21:23.10 | Bleeter | too true |
| 21:26.31 | Mr_Rabies2 | i will return shortly under a new mirc |
| 21:26.32 | Mr_Rabies2 | :X |
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| 21:30.28 | Chaotic_D | YES! FINALLY! |
| 21:30.43 | blq | Congratulations! |
| 21:30.50 | Chaotic_D | I got TourGuide to use LightHeaded to find NPC locations, and then put up a waypoint! |
| 21:31.21 | Chaotic_D | and it's so true. LightHeaded is a beast. |
| 21:31.40 | Chaotic_D | calling those functions is just agonizing. |
| 21:31.54 | snegoviK | lol |
| 21:32.50 | Chaotic_D | LightHeaded:GetQuestInfo works fine (once I figured out what it wanted), but IterateNPCInfo is just like IterateQuestInfo, in that you need to call it in a loop, otherwise you get nil values back. |
| 21:33.13 | blq | ok - I am able to imagine what you've tried to do.. (and finally did) but would you please explain the terms "LightHeaded" and "TourGuide"? I think TourGuide is a WoW-UI-Addon, right? |
| 21:33.27 | Chaotic_D | too bad there's no GetNPCInfo. there's GetQuestInfo and IterateQuestInfo, but just the Iterate for NPCInfo. |
| 21:33.46 | Chaotic_D | they're both addons. |
| 21:33.52 | blq | ah okay |
| 21:34.19 | Chaotic_D | LightHeaded is the one that uses WoWHead.com's database data. |
| 21:34.21 | blq | sorry for the dumb questions.. I'm new to this.. but very interested |
| 21:34.57 | Chaotic_D | I'm sure my code looks like hell, especially since I juryrigged quest levels in TourGuide into a variable it doesn't belong. :> |
| 21:35.25 | ScytheBlade1 | Bleeter, I can't get wine to see arts. So... yeah. |
| 21:35.29 | blq | sounds nice.. I'm just using cartographer with a almost complete database of everything I like to find :) |
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| 21:39.26 | Bleeter | ScytheBlade1: try 'artsdsp wine WoW.exe' |
| 21:40.00 | ScytheBlade1 | Bleeter, will do, give me a sec to log. |
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| 21:40.25 | Bleeter | ScytheBlade1: no probs mate, in yer own time.. really appreciate you looking at this for me... was starting to drive me rather crazy ;) |
| 21:41.03 | ScytheBlade1 | Bleeter, sure. I'd love working sound myself, but know about 0 C. Likewise, there's not much I can do, outside of test. |
| 21:41.29 | blq | is it actually possible to play WoW via wine if you've got a powerfull machine? |
| 21:41.38 | ScytheBlade1 | blq, it's possible with a weak machine. |
| 21:42.03 | blq | oh, I thought you'd just get low fps and such stuff |
| 21:42.11 | Bleeter | blq: it's possible with a machine that's, as far as Blizz are concerned, not at min requirements ... sure, looks awful, but does it better than Win32 ;) |
| 21:42.13 | ScytheBlade1 | Not close. |
| 21:42.16 | blq | so it works stable? |
| 21:42.18 | ScytheBlade1 | Yes |
| 21:42.33 | blq | aw.. cool :) |
| 21:42.45 | blq | gotte try that soon |
| 21:42.56 | Bleeter | can be a bit of a black art to get it going, but generally once it's set up successfully it works quite happy through new WoW versions and new Wine versions with a minor tweak here and there |
| 21:43.11 | Bleeter | it'd seem that the upcoming new audio API on the PTR, though, is a different matter entirely ;) |
| 21:44.01 | blq | that sounds still alot better than I thought :) |
| 21:44.24 | Bleeter | http://www.wowwiki.com/Linux/Wine |
| 21:44.58 | Bleeter | ScytheBlade1: I'm a bit conflicted now, I've just received a new album from one of my favourite groups of all time... compelled to listen to it! |
| 21:45.18 | ScytheBlade1 | Bleeter, haha. :) |
| 21:45.26 | ScytheBlade1 | Bleeter, on the other side of the smiley: http://pastey.net/72693 |
| 21:45.31 | ScytheBlade1 | Still locking up upon launch |
| 21:45.38 | Bleeter | It's not released until Oct 3, so I'm damn excited ;) |
| 21:46.00 | Bleeter | kinda nice having a friend of my brother who works for one of the leading UK music video fx companies ;) |
| 21:46.08 | ScytheBlade1 | Ohh, nice |
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| 21:46.33 | Bleeter | they tend to get albums before release, so their artists get the feel of the work before starting on vids |
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| 21:47.10 | ScytheBlade1 | Bleeter, and.. http://pastey.net/72694 |
| 21:47.32 | ScytheBlade1 | Though it looks like artsdsp is hating on ,e. |
| 21:47.34 | ScytheBlade1 | *me. |
| 21:48.13 | art3mis | what band bleeter? |
| 21:48.20 | blq | I actually got a question cencerning LUA/WoW-API .. I read PIL up and down .. and some other beginner pages concerning LUA too.. to get started I tried to understand some WoW addons I'm allready using.. but I'm still confused about several lines of code.. I found a function which is calling another function - I think it's a WoW-API-Function (or how ever I should call this) - that's called "self:SlashCommand(msg)". I think self: is the |
| 21:48.21 | art3mis | Jem and the Holograms? |
| 21:48.30 | Bleeter | art3mis: I could say, but I'd be forced to shoot you! :P |
| 21:48.37 | art3mis | tell me |
| 21:48.42 | art3mis | you know you wanna brag |
| 21:48.47 | ScytheBlade1 | art3mis, search for UK albums being released on Oct 3rd. ;P |
| 21:49.01 | ScytheBlade1 | Rush!? |
| 21:49.05 | art3mis | oh that reminds me |
| 21:49.11 | art3mis | heh new rush would own |
| 21:49.17 | foxlit | blq: your message got cut at "I think self: is the" |
| 21:49.27 | blq | I think self: is the target.. I was looking for "SlashCommand" on wowwiki but didnt find a entry there.. isn't it a API function? |
| 21:49.37 | foxlit | No |
| 21:49.54 | foxlit | And things shouldn't really go like that in vanilla WoW code |
| 21:50.07 | blq | sry for the bad grammar ... :/ |
| 21:50.15 | ScytheBlade1 | Bleeter, it seems that artsdsp is broken for me, in wine and under native linux apps. Testing audacious now, and restarted artsd... sound kept playing. |
| 21:50.19 | foxlit | (you're likely looking at some segment of an Ace addon) |
| 21:50.52 | blq | oh.. so I'd have to learn another language to understand that? |
| 21:50.59 | Industrial | API |
| 21:51.08 | foxlit | Nah, just recognize a few extra functions |
| 21:51.27 | foxlit | But we can look at that from a Lua PoV without diving into Ace |
| 21:51.45 | foxlit | "self:SlashCommand(msg)" is equivalent to "self.SlashCommand(self, msg)" |
| 21:52.45 | blq | so it's just an child array?? |
| 21:53.11 | foxlit | self is a table |
| 21:53.28 | ScytheBlade1 | Blah, yeah, it's still using ALSA. |
| 21:53.59 | blq | aren'T tables equal to arrays? I got that feeling while reading PIL |
| 21:54.05 | foxlit | They are, more or less |
| 21:54.19 | blq | ok - but to be correct let's call it table :) |
| 21:54.39 | foxlit | (arrays usually use a numeric index, while tables can be hashtables) |
| 21:54.41 | blq | ok now I know why I couldn't find it anywhere - thankyou |
| 21:55.24 | blq | ah - that's what I assumed :> |
| 21:55.59 | ScytheBlade1 | Bleeter, final pastey, WINEDEBUG=+dsound included: http://pastey.net/72698 |
| 21:57.09 | foxlit | My advice would be to start disecting with something that isn't Ace if you are interested in general stuff :) |
| 21:57.14 | Bleeter | ScytheBlade1: thanks mate, really appreciate it :) |
| 21:57.47 | ScytheBlade1 | Bleeter, sure. If you need stuff tested, ping and I'd be glad to help. |
| 21:58.01 | blq | foxlit: damn .. it's hard to get into any of the addon - almost all of them got any dependencies ... :< |
| 21:58.26 | Bleeter | ScytheBlade1: heh, thanks. no offence, but I forget nicks easy sometime. I'll try and include you in my wereHamster/Kaydeethree wine pings from now on ;) |
| 21:59.01 | ScytheBlade1 | None taken |
| 21:59.06 | Bleeter | ScytheBlade1: If possible, could you create an account @ winehq, and follow up to that pablo chap's last post? |
| 21:59.14 | ScytheBlade1 | Bleeter, sure |
| 21:59.17 | ScytheBlade1 | Bleeter, link again? |
| 21:59.20 | Bleeter | it'd be nicer than me reporting that 'some bloke down the pub told me...' ;) |
| 21:59.29 | ScytheBlade1 | Heh, no joke. |
| 21:59.35 | Bleeter | http://appdb.winehq.org/appview.php?iVersionId=8903#Comment-23949 |
| 21:59.36 | zenzelezz | wait, this channel is a pub now? |
| 21:59.40 | Bleeter | first thread of comments |
| 21:59.54 | Bleeter | zenzelezz: yup, and it's your round |
| 22:00.39 | foxlit | blq: http://downloads.curse.com/details/7774/ |
| 22:01.18 | foxlit | Not sure if it's worth looking at, but that's a pretty short implementation of a few things that might make a useful addon |
| 22:02.02 | foxlit | It took comparatively little of my time to write, and is now by far the most downloaded of my addons. QQ! |
| 22:02.22 | ScytheBlade1 | Bleeter, http://appdb.winehq.org/commentview.php?iAppId=1922&iVersionId=8903&iThreadId=23949 |
| 22:02.37 | Chaotic_D | well, Tekkub has no interest in LightHeaded in TourGuide. :( |
| 22:02.51 | Bleeter | ScytheBlade1: nice, thanks! |
| 22:02.55 | ScytheBlade1 | Bleeter, no problem. |
| 22:03.22 | Bleeter | Kaydeethree's lucky, using same distro as me so I'm not gunna chase for 'me too' reports ;) |
| 22:03.40 | blq | foxlit: looks interesting - but I think I'll try to start of with ass less as possible extra stuff for understanding the basics before going for anything else |
| 22:03.49 | blq | foxlit: but thank you anyway!! |
| 22:03.53 | ScytheBlade1 | Heh. Same arch, too. |
| 22:03.59 | Bleeter | only interested if Kaydeethree gets it working... which something makes me think won't happen. |
| 22:04.04 | ScytheBlade1 | I'm a 'purist' - if I can run in in 64 bit, I will ;) |
| 22:04.07 | Kaydeethree | heh |
| 22:04.14 | Bleeter | Kaydeethree: no offence ;) |
| 22:04.25 | Kaydeethree | no worries |
| 22:04.51 | Bleeter | well, seeing zenzelezz has renegged on the round, sounds like I owe Kaydeethree and ScytheBlade1 a beer... bbs, grabbing from bar ;) |
| 22:05.06 | ScytheBlade1 | hehe |
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| 22:13.41 | art3mis | http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=230164884672 |
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| 22:19.48 | Bleeter | you know, I couldn't possibly go back to Win32 for any length of time... reckon would take me ages to find some Sierpinski carpet screensavers of similar quality |
| 22:20.28 | zenzelezz | the only time I'm not using my computer I'm either in a different room, or asleep... so no point in screensavers |
| 22:21.19 | snegoviK | do you guys think 20 variables is enough memory for a calculator? : ) |
| 22:21.53 | Bleeter | an ingame calc? hmm, I'd be thinking of 25-man groups... so, erm, no |
| 22:22.40 | snegoviK | variables to use. not variables to code it :) |
| 22:23.09 | snegoviK | i m just coding the part so that you can do "lol = 2+2" |
| 22:23.18 | snegoviK | but i feel bad giving unlimited memory |
| 22:23.30 | snegoviK | want to make a structure that wraps round |
| 22:23.32 | Mr_Rabies2 | someone do me a favor |
| 22:23.51 | Mr_Rabies2 | try to connect to irc.dynamix.com port 6667 on irc and see if it times out |
| 22:25.23 | Bleeter | Mr_Rabies2: indeed it does |
| 22:25.32 | Mr_Rabies2 | welp i guess it's dead for good now |
| 22:25.38 | Mr_Rabies2 | darn :[ |
| 22:25.50 | Mr_Rabies2 | i hung around on there pretty much every day since 2001 |
| 22:26.17 | Mr_Rabies2 | i'll be sad to see it go :( |
| 22:27.08 | Bleeter | bah, we're better than any other # on any other net, and don't you try to deny it or I'll be forced to... to... call you names! :P |
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| 22:27.49 | snegoviK | rofl |
| 22:28.04 | zenzelezz | I've been hanging around a channel about modding some game since summer 2001... the modding community for the game died years ago, now we're just a bunch of weirdos idling there |
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| 22:29.17 | zenzelezz | if this activity is dead, I don't want to see active |
| 22:29.21 | JoshBork1 | i think he's just insulting himself |
| 22:29.32 | zenzelezz | and I don't know if this channel was around in 2001 |
| 22:29.45 | JoshBork1 | i think it's going to storm here |
| 22:29.52 | Rallion | I did that with a starcraft modding group for a while |
| 22:29.57 | ScytheBlade1 | Heh. |
| 22:30.00 | Rallion | just idling in a dead chat |
| 22:30.10 | ScytheBlade1 | <-- admin of the last authorized CamSys mirror on the web. |
| 22:30.14 | Rallion | YES! |
| 22:30.15 | ScytheBlade1 | Well, one of the admins |
| 22:30.27 | Kaelten | for those who might be interested, LibStub is a neutral library stub that, if all goes well, will be used in Ace3 and Dongle2. We're looking for more people to look over the code if anyone is interested |
| 22:30.30 | Kaelten | http://fish.wowace.com/browse/WowAce/trunk/LibStub/ |
| 22:30.31 | Rallion | i miss those guys. |
| 22:30.43 | ScytheBlade1 | I had GD and Merlin walk into the channel and say "grats, you have permission to mirror our stuff, we're taking off" |
| 22:30.46 | ScytheBlade1 | And so we do to this day |
| 22:30.50 | Rallion | hahaha |
| 22:30.58 | ScytheBlade1 | They still stop by occasionally |
| 22:30.59 | Rallion | i respect that |
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| 22:31.01 | zenzelezz | damnit, why isn't Shirik here, I would so point that link to him |
| 22:31.03 | Rallion | that's cool |
| 22:31.08 | JoshBork1 | Kaelten: IT SUCKS! |
| 22:31.12 | JoshBork1 | MAKE IT BETTER! |
| 22:31.21 | Kaelten | ok, tell me whats wrong with it and lets run with it |
| 22:31.22 | Kaelten | :) |
| 22:31.27 | ScytheBlade1 | Rallion, I've got Suicidal_Insanity and DarkWizzard on my IM lists... hehe |
| 22:31.29 | Kaelten | :P |
| 22:31.36 | JoshBork1 | Kaelten: needs more argcheck'ing |
| 22:31.47 | Kaelten | bah, has too much as it is |
| 22:31.57 | Kaelten | but I figure coming it at 95 lines currently it could be a lot owrse |
| 22:32.00 | ScytheBlade1 | Along with Quantam (MPQ2k author, helped ShadowFlare write WinMPQ) |
| 22:32.04 | ScytheBlade1 | And a few others |
| 22:32.30 | ckknight | arg-checking prevents errors down the road, ones where you won't be able to find the cause except through checking the args properly |
| 22:32.49 | Rallion | Quantam was always really quiet |
| 22:33.04 | ScytheBlade1 | He bugs me daily :P |
| 22:33.11 | Rallion | hahaha |
| 22:33.12 | ScytheBlade1 | Links me to crap on his blog that I don't care about. |
| 22:33.29 | Rallion | how long ago was it that they closed down? |
| 22:33.29 | ScytheBlade1 | He really enjoys the study of languages, and I, well, don't. :) |
| 22:33.34 | ScytheBlade1 | camsys? Years |
| 22:33.35 | ScytheBlade1 | 2001 |
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| 22:33.38 | Rallion | right before DII came out, right? |
| 22:33.47 | ScytheBlade1 | Around that, yeah |
| 22:34.00 | JoshBorke | why did you change it from being if LibStub.minor > LIBSTUB_MINOR then return end? |
| 22:34.10 | Rallion | oh, yeah, I remember looking at the credits in the manual for the guys' names |
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| 22:34.26 | JoshBorke | i guess it does remove one check for the stubs existence |
| 22:35.07 | art3mis | man i just read the WORST review of transformers ever |
| 22:35.08 | Kaelten | JoshBorke More to the point it allows it to be tagged onto the top of a library file |
| 22:35.29 | art3mis | i swear the guy had never seen the cartoons seen a transformer toy or even heard anyone talk about it |
| 22:35.30 | Kaelten | which has a different set of draw backs I'll agree, but it has its plusses a swell |
| 22:35.35 | ckknight | it should be <=, not <. Otherwise you'll replace the stub with the same version |
| 22:35.40 | ScytheBlade1 | I remember downloading SCAiEdit III over my 56.7k modem, connected at 28.8k |
| 22:35.40 | zenzelezz | so I'm running around Zangarmarsh farming Primal Life, and I see this... [1. General] [Youfeeldrunk]: /w me for link of one sword of illidan stormrage and his bow! /w me |
| 22:35.41 | Rallion | art3mis, as in, they said it was horrible, or the reviewer was like some kind of retarded pumpkin? |
| 22:35.47 | ScytheBlade1 | I managed the second ever download :P |
| 22:35.52 | art3mis | the reviewer said it was horrible |
| 22:35.57 | JoshBorke | hm, so i've been using DongleStub by just copy/pasting it into the top of my libraries |
| 22:36.01 | art3mis | and he was borderline retarded |
| 22:36.10 | Bleeter | Kaelten: although I don't wish to speak formally on norg's behalf, I suspect we're a bit too far along in Auc5's development to consider inclusion, etc. We're hoping to have a preview release out by end of next month ;) |
| 22:36.10 | ScytheBlade1 | Rallion, curious, what channel were you in? |
| 22:36.17 | JoshBorke | should this stub be used in the same way? |
| 22:36.20 | Rallion | I honestly couldn't tell you |
| 22:36.26 | ScytheBlade1 | Remember which network even? |
| 22:36.29 | art3mis | i mean honestly if you grew up with that how could you not get a childish glee from hearing optimus at the start of the movie |
| 22:36.32 | Rallion | nope heh |
| 22:36.35 | ScytheBlade1 | Was it #camsys on DAL? |
| 22:36.46 | Rallion | you know, it must have been |
| 22:36.48 | ckknight | wait, no, forget my last statement |
| 22:36.50 | Rallion | I wasn't Rallion then though |
| 22:36.51 | Kaelten | Bleeter: I don't expect immediate adoption, it still needs to be thoroughly broken. |
| 22:36.58 | JoshBorke | was gonna say ckknight, doesn't sound right |
| 22:37.02 | ScytheBlade1 | What was it? |
| 22:37.15 | Rallion | IIRC, I was probably BlackKnight, or something like that |
| 22:37.20 | Bleeter | Kaelten: ah, goodo.. just thought I'd let you know so you didn't think we were ignoring you :) |
| 22:37.26 | Kaelten | ya I was trying to see if my internal comparison checker was off |
| 22:37.32 | ScytheBlade1 | Vaugely rings a bell |
| 22:38.00 | Kaelten | Bleeter: :) I just hope it meets MentalPower's and Norgs approval, They've been quite so far |
| 22:38.02 | Rallion | I was 14, I did really ridiculously bad art for a couple TC projects that died early, even for TC projects |
| 22:38.08 | ScytheBlade1 | You weren't the guy who hydroplaned his dad's camero in the rain, and then driving another camero to the insurance company the next day, hydroplaned the second car again? |
| 22:38.10 | ScytheBlade1 | A haha, so, no |
| 22:38.12 | ScytheBlade1 | That wouldn't be you |
| 22:38.14 | Rallion | hehe no |
| 22:38.19 | JoshBorke | LibStub = LibStub or setmetatable({ libs = {},}, {})? |
| 22:38.23 | Kaelten | although the project is only two days old |
| 22:38.36 | Rallion | that's pretty funny though |
| 22:39.00 | Cidan | wahoo, got mah printer to work in samba, whew. |
| 22:39.02 | Kaelten | JoshBorke: hrm, not sure if thats readable enough, or even valid :s |
| 22:39.17 | ScytheBlade1 | One of the things I remember from that channel, was the excessive number of perverts joining #camsys looking for #camsex |
| 22:39.49 | JoshBorke | true. but why is having "if not LibStub or LibStub.minor < LIBSTUB_MINOR then..." important to have at the beginning rather than what it was? |
| 22:39.52 | Rallion | really, honestly, it doesn't seem like that easy a mistake to make. |
| 22:40.00 | ScytheBlade1 | Nah. But it happened. Often. |
| 22:40.10 | Rallion | i guess if you have enough people looking for the channel... |
| 22:40.13 | ckknight | your coding style is already pretty funky |
| 22:40.23 | JoshBorke | it's multiple coding styles in one |
| 22:40.40 | ckknight | yea |
| 22:40.40 | Rallion | Aside: Cranium, as in the board game, is being developed for the Wii. |
| 22:40.41 | ckknight | *shudder* |
| 22:40.51 | ckknight | sometimes if statements are 3 lines, some 1 line |
| 22:40.58 | ckknight | and there's no indication which way is expected |
| 22:41.47 | JoshBorke | Kaelten: line 40 comments do not match function definition |
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| 22:42.22 | Kaelten | talking about silent vs optional? |
| 22:42.26 | JoshBorke | yes |
| 22:42.40 | Kaelten | ya I noticed that jus thavne't fixed it one sec |
| 22:42.53 | ckknight | also the naming conventions seem a bit screwy, they don't match each other |
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| 22:42.58 | JoshBorke | i'd fix it but i can't be arsed to 1) see if i have access 2) check it out and fix it |
| 22:45.51 | JoshBorke | line 77 could just be: if callback and type(callback) ~= "function" then |
| 22:46.25 | JoshBorke | I think it's more readable than what you currently have |
| 22:52.36 | Kaelten | ya I can agree with that one. |
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| 22:59.31 | foxlit | type(nil) == "nil" :) |
| 23:01.35 | Mr_Rabies2 | bout to do gruul for the first time :O |
| 23:01.41 | zenzelezz | :) |
| 23:02.04 | zenzelezz | Gruul himself or the High King first? |
| 23:02.38 | Cairenn | Bleeter: Me - "why fmod and not oal" Slouken - "cuz" |
| 23:03.11 | Bleeter | Cairenn: heh, thought that'd be the answer ;) |
| 23:03.13 | zenzelezz | tell him you are rubber, he is glue |
| 23:04.04 | Kaydeethree | heh, where was this? |
| 23:04.19 | Cairenn | not here |
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| 23:07.33 | Lej | Is there any easy way to stop a draggable childframe from beeing able to be dragged outside of the parentframe? |
| 23:08.06 | foxlit | Yes, but that'd be ugly |
| 23:08.24 | Lej | ugly? |
| 23:08.41 | Lej | the easy way or the result? |
| 23:09.01 | foxlit | The method of achieving what you want would not result in elegant code |
| 23:09.10 | foxlit | And would probably feel a bit weird |
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| 23:09.53 | foxlit | You can't clamp a frame (preventing it from being moved out of) to a specific other frame - only to the whole screen |
| 23:10.22 | foxlit | You could check if the user dragged the frame outside of where you want to allow it to be, and reposition it every frame, but that's not very elegant |
| 23:11.15 | Lej | to bad, it would have been better looking if you could drag them out |
| 23:13.51 | snegoviK | good night all |
| 23:14.02 | Bleeter | gnight snegoviK |
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| 23:15.22 | Mr_Rabies2 | <zenzelezz> :) |
| 23:15.22 | Mr_Rabies2 | <zenzelezz> Gruul himself or the High King first? |
| 23:15.32 | Mr_Rabies2 | i'm hoping both but realistically probably just high king |
| 23:15.42 | JoshBorke | what'd i miss? |
| 23:15.46 | Mr_Rabies2 | if we even kill him |
| 23:15.49 | foxlit | WTS [Moonkin tank]! |
| 23:16.05 | Mr_Rabies2 | oh we were just making fun of that joshborke fellow, he's such a noob |
| 23:16.08 | Mr_Rabies2 | OHSHI- |
| 23:16.40 | JoshBorke | oh, ok |
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| 23:18.15 | JoshBorke | if that's all, then it's no big deal |
| 23:18.19 | JoshBorke | people make fun of me to my face |
| 23:18.35 | Kaelten | well don't you? |
| 23:18.44 | JoshBorke | i make fun of me too |
| 23:19.50 | Kaelten | awesome, |
| 23:20.01 | Kaelten | JoshBorke: any other comments on the latest LibStub? |
| 23:20.48 | JoshBorke | did you add more argchecking? |
| 23:20.49 | JoshBorke | :P |
| 23:20.54 | Kaelten | nope |
| 23:21.00 | Kaelten | i think it has enough |
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| 23:26.15 | Shirik | ~lart JoshBorke |
| 23:26.15 | purl | stamps JoshBorke on the forehead with the official Troll marker |
| 23:28.45 | Kaelten | ~lart purl |
| 23:28.45 | purl | judo chops kaelten |
| 23:28.49 | Kaelten | damn |
| 23:29.14 | ScytheBlade1 | Hey - someone in here had a question a while ago, about some addon *spamming* the guild channel. I'm looking for that person now. -.- |
| 23:29.28 | Shirik | hmmm |
| 23:29.36 | Shirik | I remember... he was talking about some prefix that starts with DM |
| 23:29.37 | Shirik | I think |
| 23:29.41 | Shirik | eh... who was it |
| 23:29.46 | ScytheBlade1 | DTMR? |
| 23:29.50 | Shirik | something like that |
| 23:29.52 | Shirik | that might be it |
| 23:30.07 | ScytheBlade1 | This guild, someone has that exact same addon, and I think it qualifies |
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| 23:30.21 | foxlit | RAID, I though :) |
| 23:30.23 | ScytheBlade1 | It's sending the texture, button information, and cooldown information for everything on his UI |
| 23:30.29 | foxlit | Yeah |
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| 23:30.33 | Shirik | ScytheBlade1: wtf? |
| 23:30.39 | ScytheBlade1 | Yeah. |
| 23:30.43 | foxlit | Well, I don't actually think it's the UI |
| 23:30.44 | ScytheBlade1 | Like, when he mounts, I know. |
| 23:30.50 | Shirik | what the hell |
| 23:30.58 | Shirik | If that's intentional, that's practically spyware :P |
| 23:30.58 | foxlit | More like information about buff/debuff timers on EVERYTHING |
| 23:31.24 | ScytheBlade1 | It's almost fun to watch |
| 23:31.34 | JoshBork1 | where is Finalize supposed to be called? |
| 23:31.58 | Shirik | when you want to finish |
| 23:32.07 | Shirik | what's finalize? |
| 23:32.24 | JoshBork1 | so finalize calls ALL callbacks when called? |
| 23:32.29 | Shirik | uh |
| 23:32.32 | Shirik | sure |
| 23:32.34 | Shirik | sounds good |
| 23:32.46 | ScytheBlade1 | But yeah. It's spamming my addon channel, and doing it well, too. |
| 23:33.08 | nevcairiel | JoshBork1: yes, thats the point .. :) not like every lib will potentally register a callback |
| 23:33.12 | ScytheBlade1 | Ability_Mount_BlackPanther]item]29471]cooldown]etc |
| 23:33.14 | pastamancer | how else are you supposed to know when a library has been loaded/upgraded |
| 23:33.36 | Shirik | pastamancer: Not use libraries ^_^ |
| 23:33.53 | Shirik | Then you know the answer: never :) |
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| 23:34.00 | JoshBork1 | hm, ok |
| 23:34.06 | Kaelten | JoshBorke: it will call all registered ones. |
| 23:34.15 | Kaelten | many libraries may not use it |
| 23:34.23 | Kaelten | callback is optional |
| 23:34.38 | Kaelten | it allows for lazy bindings between libraries |
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| 23:39.27 | foxlit | ScytheBlade1: yeah, that sounds like what I was chasing |
| 23:39.33 | foxlit | Know the addon? |
| 23:39.36 | Tem | Protip: To defeat Ragnaros, shoot at him with ice until he dies. |
| 23:39.39 | ScytheBlade1 | foxlit, I'll ask in a sec |
| 23:39.49 | foxlit | Poking people as well |
| 23:40.07 | ScytheBlade1 | ... or KTM spammed my addon message history |
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| 23:43.04 | JoshBork2 | so in what instances should a callback return true? if you're only looking for one other library? |
| 23:43.14 | Kaelten | right |
| 23:43.27 | Kaelten | if you find all the libraries you're looking for then return true and it'll unregister |
| 23:44.00 | ag763 | Can anyone give me a quick overview of what steps I would need to take to add a new texture to a UI? |
| 23:45.12 | JoshBork2 | local texture = UIParent:CreateTexture() |
| 23:45.28 | ag763 | setHieght/Width I assume too |
| 23:45.32 | JoshBork2 | yes |
| 23:45.35 | ag763 | anything else? |
| 23:45.41 | JoshBork2 | SetTexture |
| 23:45.56 | JoshBork2 | shirik |
| 23:46.03 | ag763 | SetTexture returns true on finding file correct? |
| 23:46.10 | JoshBork2 | i'm not sure |
| 23:46.17 | JoshBork2 | !api SetTexture |
| 23:46.21 | ThraeBot | JoshBork2: Could not find a relevant page. Perhaps you could be so kind as to create one? http://www.wowwiki.com/API_SetTexture |
| 23:46.26 | *** join/#wowi-lounge GofG (n=Gofg@cpe-069-134-155-140.nc.res.rr.com) |
| 23:46.28 | JoshBork2 | Shirik|QQing: don't QQ so much, it's ok to be Shirik |
| 23:46.49 | JoshBork2 | Kaelten et. al: I don't think FinalizeLIbrary is a good name for the function |
| 23:46.58 | foxlit | Yes! |
| 23:46.58 | foxlit | http://downloads.curse.com/details/3260/ |
| 23:47.18 | Kaelten | what would you call it? |
| 23:49.16 | foxlit | DTMR spam comes from DoTimer |
| 23:59.44 | Shirik | No I will not run you through RFK ffs LEAVE ME ALONE T_T |
| 23:59.55 | |Jelly| | Please? |
