| 00:04.03 | Kaydeethree | oh, heh... go look at general. someone's figured out how to use the right-to-left unicode character... |
| 00:05.41 | ckknight | link? |
| 00:05.51 | Kaydeethree | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=1134195626&sid=1&pageNo=1 |
| 00:05.57 | Kaydeethree | look at the front page of general for full effect |
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| 00:07.10 | Arrowmaster | lol |
| 00:07.23 | Arrowmaster | omg copy paste doesnt work on it |
| 00:08.29 | bleeter | hehe |
| 00:08.56 | Lunessa | deleted |
| 00:09.05 | bleeter | Arrowmaster: copy paste will work, you need to select the origin as the left square bracket, the.. erm... last char as the right square bracket |
| 00:09.12 | foxlit | 'Why are raids "rigged" to be un-PUG-able?' |
| 00:09.21 | bleeter | although that could easily be Xorg/XFCE seriously rocking, and your WM sucking :P |
| 00:09.21 | Kaydeethree | lol, was wondering how long it'd take the mods... it made it to 5 pages |
| 00:09.31 | Arrowmaster | ญญญ??????????????????????????????? [Page: 1 . 2 . 3 . 4 . 5] |
| 00:09.36 | Arrowmaster | nope still doesnt owrk |
| 00:09.37 | foxlit | 'Why is the average PUG incompetent? How dare you do that to us, Blizzard!' |
| 00:09.46 | Kaydeethree | lmao |
| 00:10.36 | bleeter | Arrowmaster: ah, well your WM must suck then! :P |
| 00:11.25 | bleeter | acutally, what I said above was wrong... origin the left square, final char the : |
| 00:11.48 | bleeter | hmm, seems three ways it works here.. won't bore you with details |
| 00:13.46 | Kaydeethree | http://www.spyglass-server.com/jtwyford/rtl.jpg |
| 00:15.50 | ckknight | lol: http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=1134097755&sid=1 |
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| 00:27.44 | Thunder_Child | ~logs |
| 00:27.45 | purl | i guess logs is apt/ibot/infobot/jbot/purl all log daily to http://ibot.rikers.org/<channelname>/ where channelname is html encoded ie: %23debian | lines that start with a space are not shown | some channels have stats at http://ibot.rikers.org/stats/<channelname>.html.gz |
| 00:29.04 | Thunder_Child | ~lart Thunder_Child |
| 00:29.04 | purl | cats /dev/urandom into Thunder_Child's ear |
| 00:36.52 | Chaotic_D | is there something wrong with Blizzard right now? I'm trying to sign up for a new account and it's just totally crapping out on me. |
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| 00:41.19 | RavageX_9 | well, it's not my roommate's router. |
| 00:43.40 | KarlThePagan | auth servers slow for anyone else? |
| 00:46.12 | Chaotic-D | yes. if by auth servers you mean Blizzard account signup page, which I'm guessing is somehow related. |
| 00:46.36 | KarlThePagan | yea forums slow too :/ |
| 00:46.39 | KarlThePagan | http://queuedance.ytmnd.com/ time |
| 00:54.11 | Lunessa | I need to L2Cheeseburger |
| 00:56.41 | Chaotic-D | looks like I won't be playing today. |
| 00:57.34 | bleeter | some people are full of lose http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=1133967437&sid=1 |
| 00:58.01 | bleeter | well, win for assuming it won't be ok, but lose more for even asking |
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| 01:00.32 | Cairenn | completely different note, you guys aware of this? http://www.wowhead.com/?jobs |
| 01:01.32 | ckknight | hrm |
| 01:02.15 | JoshBorke | how was your day today? |
| 01:02.16 | bleeter | Cairenn: aye, as I've mentioned publically before, I would've helped them out on a couple of their major issues... if (a) they hadn't gone commerical and (b) after going commercial insist I live in that town |
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| 01:02.43 | Shirik | Cairenn: Would totally do it, but I refuse to make multiple-browser-compatible code. All of my code follows a strict guideline of breaking IE |
| 01:02.58 | JoshBorke | is that why RDX sucks? :-P |
| 01:03.13 | Shirik | Yes, because RDX is designed to break IE |
| 01:03.14 | Thunder_Child | interesting, this months wired has an article on penny arcade |
| 01:04.06 | Cairenn | Cidan: lol |
| 01:04.08 | bleeter | personally, I think their requirements are a little tight... though I'm unsure of the population of 'near Minneapolis, MN', I'd suspect that the pool of potential candidates would be pretty small |
| 01:04.30 | bleeter | given that most talented programmers don't bother with web-dev 'coz it's an ass of a job |
| 01:04.41 | Lunessa | Yes. But I don't think I'm what they're looking for. ;) |
| 01:04.58 | Cairenn | JoshBorke: pretty good, yours? |
| 01:05.59 | ckknight | bleeter: *shrug* I need a job, but I don't want to go to MN |
| 01:06.11 | JoshBorke | exhausting |
| 01:07.01 | bleeter | I'd happily go to MN for the travel, being an Aussie I suspect the green-crad wouldn't be an issue (we don't need them, Aussies have a special class of paperwork that bypasses green-crads).. but as I don't live there already... |
| 01:07.12 | bleeter | ... so.. meh |
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| 01:07.58 | bleeter | and seriously, I'd be concerned if they gave someone with my, what I believe to be, lack of skills, the role ;) |
| 01:08.29 | ScytheBlade1 | bleeter, quick question. In your opinion, is the PTR + linux a wine bug, or a WoW bug? |
| 01:09.25 | bleeter | ScytheBlade1: at the moment, I'm leaning in the direction of both - a WoW bug that's exposed occasionally in Vista due to their 'new' driver model, and a Wine bug that consistently trips said bug up. If that makes sense. |
| 01:09.40 | ScytheBlade1 | Yeah it does |
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| 01:09.45 | bleeter | Whether the WoW bug is actually an fmod bug, can't say |
| 01:09.55 | Chaotic-D | is WoW responding at all? I'm just wondering if I have a hope if I keep refreshing the payment method page, or if I'm screwed. |
| 01:10.09 | KarlThePagan | servers are back? |
| 01:10.19 | KarlThePagan | Chaotic-D, i just got in |
| 01:11.00 | bleeter | ScytheBlade1: thing is, if Linux was acknowledged as a platform, I'm of the opinion we could probably help Blizz sort out the Vista issue ;) |
| 01:11.03 | Chaotic-D | well, if it takes that long, it'll time out. apparently I have a time limit for signing up, which was how I got canned the first time. I was pretty annoyed having to do it again and again. |
| 01:11.12 | ScytheBlade1 | bleeter, you've see my --- sec |
| 01:11.13 | ScytheBlade1 | VR pulls |
| 01:11.38 | ScytheBlade1 | My wow-linux-proof.txt ? |
| 01:11.40 | bleeter | anyways, off to Uni. Free Pizza! Pity about the Excel as DB assignment... feeling gunna fail that. But do I look worried... I think not. |
| 01:11.57 | bleeter | ScytheBlade1: nope? if you're quick Ill take a look |
| 01:12.19 | ScytheBlade1 | bleeter, http://www.brantleyonline.com/wow-linux-proof.txt |
| 01:13.22 | Chaotic-D | wooo! it worked! I was afraid to go back to the starting page, so I just kept refreshing that middle page. finally I decided to open the starting page in a new tab. |
| 01:13.39 | bleeter | ScytheBlade1: ah, the killed off SDL version. Aware of that, slouken recently told me bringing it back is not on any TODO list for now. |
| 01:13.40 | Chaotic-D | I'm not too happy that FireFox saved my credit card number in the text entry field though. -_-; |
| 01:13.50 | ScytheBlade1 | bleeter, NOOOOOOOO |
| 01:13.54 | ScytheBlade1 | MY LAST HOPE |
| 01:15.21 | bleeter | ScytheBlade1: note he said 'for now'... maybe, who knows.... 3.0? One can hope ;) |
| 01:15.26 | Chaotic-D | wait... I thought you had to pay for a WoW authorization key by buying the official product... why am I able to subscribe to the game by my friend inviting me? |
| 01:15.28 | bleeter | ciao |
| 01:15.57 | bleeter | Chaotic-D: promotion. if you sign up and stay for (a month?), your friend gets free time. |
| 01:16.15 | Chaotic-D | oh. it says I do still have to buy the official product. |
| 01:16.39 | bleeter | oh yeah, you have to buy/dl it ... soz, misunderstood. |
| 01:16.41 | bleeter | ciao all! |
| 01:16.45 | Chaotic-D | bye. |
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| 01:18.09 | Chaotic-D | which one is the Australian server? I want to check my ping/lag out on there. |
| 01:18.23 | Chaotic-D | Oceanic list... |
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| 01:21.18 | Cidan | Cairenn, :D |
| 01:24.16 | rallion | decrypting game files... |
| 01:25.49 | art3mis | im telling |
| 01:26.38 | Corrodias | my UI takes flippin' AGES to reload |
| 01:26.52 | rallion | http://www.pennlive.com/news/patriotnews/index.ssf?/base/news/1187668542113250.xml&coll=1 |
| 01:27.02 | rallion | Corrodias, I know what you mean |
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| 01:28.48 | rallion | it's apparently gotta download a whole hell of a lot of files for me to play Bioshock |
| 01:28.57 | rallion | even though I had it preloaded |
| 01:32.18 | Cairenn | Cidan: somehow, I highly doubt that |
| 01:32.36 | Cidan | Cairenn, You never know, :P |
| 01:33.37 | Thunder_Child | 1.8 bg rallion |
| 01:33.40 | Thunder_Child | gb* |
| 01:34.19 | rallion | yep |
| 01:34.24 | rallion | you get it to run, by the way? |
| 01:34.37 | Thunder_Child | yes, had to update drivers |
| 01:34.59 | Thunder_Child | ofc, the only good part of that game was making me update my drivers |
| 01:35.06 | rallion | I had the same problem even WITH the new drivers, but if I ran it with a -dx9 switch it was okay |
| 01:35.12 | rallion | really? i loved the demo |
| 01:35.21 | rallion | until it crashed. |
| 01:35.28 | rallion | when I tried to hack a turret. |
| 01:35.40 | Thunder_Child | complete crap to me....cant even have consistant graphics |
| 01:35.55 | rallion | ah, well, that puts a damper on the whole thing then |
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| 01:38.42 | rallion | hah, it runs for me too under DX10 now, just had to update my DX runtime |
| 01:38.54 | rallion | seems like that should be covered in windows update. |
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| 01:42.44 | Lunessa | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:43.42 | Thunder_Child | not a windows problem |
| 01:44.00 | Lunessa | Forum readin = pain |
| 01:44.32 | rallion | Windows Update even covers my mainboard drivers, I would expect it to put DX updates at least under optional updates |
| 01:45.00 | Thunder_Child | i didnt need a DX update...just a vid driver one |
| 01:45.15 | Thunder_Child | didnt even know they had an update for DX |
| 01:45.41 | rallion | you using DX10 or 9? |
| 01:45.45 | Thunder_Child | 10 |
| 01:45.57 | rallion | there's some weird problems going on with this game. |
| 01:47.23 | rallion | gonna try to run the full version now. woooo |
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| 02:09.00 | Corrodias | damn damn DAMN IT |
| 02:09.33 | Corrodias | i need three things from karazhan, two of them come from the curator, and he nearly never drops them |
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| 02:15.25 | Lunessa | I hate that. |
| 02:15.36 | End | no, your face? |
| 02:15.49 | Lunessa | Drop percentages make me very, very angry. |
| 02:16.02 | End | oh, I know what you mean |
| 02:16.30 | Lunessa | They make me want to quote more marvin the martian. |
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| 02:26.35 | AnduinLothar | ok, so the sphere configs make me want to stab myself |
| 02:27.30 | Thunder_Child | ~stab AnduinLothar |
| 02:27.31 | purl | ACTION runs at AnduinLothar with an origami Swiss Army knife, and inflicts a nasty paper cut. |
| 02:28.04 | AnduinLothar | that's not stabbign myself |
| 02:28.24 | Thunder_Child | purl is such a helpfull soul though |
| 02:29.31 | Lunessa | purl loves you. It wants to move in next door so it can be close to you always. It wonders why you never call, and don't take it for long walks on the beach. But it does love you. |
| 02:33.02 | AnduinLothar | Quartz needs a way to drag the damn bars.. i don't want to reposition them with coords... |
| 02:33.16 | AnduinLothar | don't mak eme drag them with FluidFrames |
| 02:34.15 | AnduinLothar | ahhh |
| 02:34.17 | AnduinLothar | foudn it |
| 02:35.07 | AnduinLothar | the range and swing timers don't tho |
| 02:37.05 | Lunessa | Are you sure? |
| 02:37.18 | AnduinLothar | onyl options i see for them is enable and color |
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| 02:37.31 | AnduinLothar | swig has a bit more |
| 02:37.35 | AnduinLothar | but no 'lock' |
| 02:37.42 | Lunessa | Hrm, I don't use them much, so I guess I missed it. |
| 02:38.09 | AnduinLothar | they're right on top of where my player frame is... |
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| 02:41.39 | AnduinLothar | as for target swing timer: quartz doesn't have one |
| 02:43.45 | rallion | Bioshock is love. |
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| 02:48.03 | Lunessa | AnduinLothar: I don't use the swing timer much. I played with it on for a very short time. |
| 02:49.14 | AnduinLothar | it's great for slow weapons |
| 02:49.35 | AnduinLothar | but i prefer the one i have |
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| 02:53.44 | Lunessa | As an enhancement shaman, I mostly use 2 slow-ish 1H weapons. But I never really got the hang of using the swing timer for much of anything. |
| 02:54.14 | AnduinLothar | the point is to not cast something right before you're about to swing |
| 02:54.35 | AnduinLothar | or else the swing can be skipped |
| 02:55.29 | AnduinLothar | and when your swing could be a 3.6s double crit doign 4k dmg.... missing it is something to avoid |
| 02:55.35 | Lunessa | Yeah, but all my shaman spells are instants and I use slow weapons by feel. |
| 02:56.10 | AnduinLothar | well for me the main issue is judgement, which is instant, but can still disrupt swinging if cast right before it lands |
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| 02:56.44 | AnduinLothar | the seals don't disrupt, but you need to make sure command is back up before the swing lands |
| 02:56.44 | Lunessa | makes sense. |
| 02:56.59 | Lunessa | Right. |
| 02:57.01 | Shirik|Ghost | ;hs gypst Sjorok |
| 02:57.17 | Lunessa | Because Big Hit, +SoC, + Windfury = dead things. |
| 02:59.12 | AnduinLothar | so you have 3.6 seconds to judge and recast command so you don't miss a swing. include the 2 global cooldowns and then any global cooldown from crusader strike or exorcism or hammer of justice... which would add another gc. and of course you're usually waiting for judge's 6s or cs's 10s cd to be up. so the timer lets me know when i should just wait a sec to cast |
| 02:59.59 | Lunessa | Yeah, I can see that being very useful for a paladin once you put it that way. |
| 03:00.06 | AnduinLothar | and the target swing timer is mainly to know when to stun |
| 03:00.26 | Lunessa | So he doesn't get his big hit. |
| 03:00.29 | AnduinLothar | stun right b4 a 2h lands or right before their cast finishes |
| 03:01.27 | AnduinLothar | so, it takes a bit more concentration... makes it harder to be aware of your party.. but it increases your dps |
| 03:01.34 | Lunessa | No, I totally get it. I just hadn't considered it from a paladin's perspective. |
| 03:01.52 | AnduinLothar | if i were healing i might not care |
| 03:01.55 | Lunessa | Ret? |
| 03:01.58 | AnduinLothar | ya |
| 03:02.24 | Lunessa | Something like 20% of my guilds is paladins. something like 80% of them are ret. |
| 03:03.26 | art3mis | do you find yourself laughing a lot? |
| 03:03.55 | Shirik | AnduinLothar: it's a lot harder to get a target's swing timer though |
| 03:03.56 | Lunessa | No; some of them are pretty f'ing awesome. |
| 03:03.59 | Shirik | just throwing that out there |
| 03:04.04 | Shirik | not impossible, but definitely not easy |
| 03:06.19 | art3mis | oh god |
| 03:06.31 | art3mis | they sent rob riggle from the daily show tio iraq |
| 03:06.58 | art3mis | classic |
| 03:07.20 | art3mis | "are there mines in this water?" "not that we've hit yet" |
| 03:10.15 | Osagasu | Isn't the entire daily show in Iraq right now? |
| 03:15.53 | art3mis | npe just rob |
| 03:16.02 | art3mis | he's the only cleared because he's an ex marine |
| 03:16.16 | art3mis | so he gets to do more stuff than they would as a show there |
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| 03:24.02 | Shirik | So get this |
| 03:24.10 | Shirik | if you get really drunk and go to allerian stronghold |
| 03:24.16 | Shirik | You can see pink elephants |
| 03:25.25 | Shirik | http://www.guardianhq.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=13117 |
| 03:25.31 | Shirik | turn off full screen glow you can see them better |
| 03:27.51 | Laraul | ummm. |
| 03:28.54 | Shirik | totally serious |
| 03:30.24 | Shirik | omg you can target them too |
| 03:35.56 | Lunessa | Ok, time for me to go home. |
| 03:36.06 | Cairenn | night Lunessa |
| 03:36.12 | Lunessa | Night! |
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| 04:00.01 | Shirik | Cairenn, why did you have to go kick my puppy |
| 04:00.03 | Shirik | seriously |
| 04:00.07 | Shirik | he didn't do anything to you |
| 04:00.14 | lolinternet | what the hell |
| 04:00.15 | Shirik | p.s. what's wrong :( |
| 04:00.19 | lolinternet | half of my internet connection isn't working |
| 04:00.23 | Shirik | half of it? |
| 04:00.28 | lolinternet | yeah. |
| 04:00.37 | Shirik | That's... pretty hard to do |
| 04:00.45 | lolinternet | well |
| 04:01.02 | lolinternet | think you can't reach 50% of all the websites, servers, etc. you normal connect to |
| 04:01.06 | Cairenn | Shirik: just asked a certain member of the WoWI community to perhaps tone it down a bit with all the OT topics all the time, and now I feel like a heel for it |
| 04:02.38 | sag_ich_nicht | something is REALLY broken here. |
| 04:03.50 | sag_ich_nicht | i can't even reach google |
| 04:03.58 | sag_ich_nicht | or any website for that matter |
| 04:03.59 | sag_ich_nicht | wth |
| 04:04.15 | Cairenn | I've had that happen, can't hit websites, but IRC/IM is still fine |
| 04:04.26 | sag_ich_nicht | yes |
| 04:04.29 | Cairenn | it's funky |
| 04:04.37 | sag_ich_nicht | not all of IM works tho |
| 04:04.49 | Cairenn | can't get email either, I bet, nor log into any game requiring internet |
| 04:04.55 | Cairenn | yup |
| 04:05.11 | Cairenn | it's really really odd when it happens, but you aren't the only one to experience it /shrug |
| 04:05.31 | sag_ich_nicht | WAU works tho o_O |
| 04:06.25 | sag_ich_nicht | LOL |
| 04:06.25 | sag_ich_nicht | # |
| 04:06.25 | sag_ich_nicht | # - Fix the embedding mechanism so it actually does the right thing inside AceComm. Up to now, AceComm has been using its OWN local copy of CTL in the majority of cases, meaning that the actual speed limit enforced has been MAX_CPS * 2 if AceComm apps + other apps have been talking at the same time. EEK! |
| 04:12.10 | Cairenn | http://ars.userfriendly.org/cartoons/?id=19971215&mode=classic |
| 04:12.11 | Cairenn | hahaha |
| 04:16.00 | art3mis | neat user friendly is hiring in van |
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| 04:38.08 | sag_ich_nicht | looks like someone broke ISP side router |
| 04:38.15 | sag_ich_nicht | seems to be working again now |
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| 04:53.48 | EmosaurusRex | Is there a function to get a users userid from their name and realm? |
| 04:54.44 | Esamynn|raiding | no, we do not have access to the internal unit id numbers |
| 04:54.45 | ckknight | userid? |
| 04:55.01 | ckknight | well, you can get a unit id if they're in your group |
| 04:55.16 | EmosaurusRex | That would work. How would I do that? |
| 04:56.22 | Esamynn | EmosaurusRex: what exactly are you trying to do? |
| 04:56.37 | ckknight | local unit; for i = 1, GetNumRaidMembers() do local name, server = UnitName("raid" .. i); if name == checkName and server == checkServer then unit = "raid" .. i; break end end |
| 04:57.10 | EmosaurusRex | Well, in short, a ban list sort of concept. |
| 04:57.16 | EmosaurusRex | Where if I group with someone that sucks |
| 04:57.19 | EmosaurusRex | put their name in a table |
| 04:57.22 | EmosaurusRex | save the table on exit |
| 04:57.45 | EmosaurusRex | whenever I join a group it will check to see if the members are on my banlist or not |
| 04:58.08 | Esamynn | just save their name in a realm specific table, names are unique on a realm |
| 04:58.13 | EmosaurusRex | and storing the userid would be the preferred way because I am using the PARTY_MEMBERS_CHANGED event |
| 04:58.46 | EmosaurusRex | unitinparty only accepts units |
| 04:58.47 | Shirik | mmm |
| 04:58.50 | EmosaurusRex | rather than player names |
| 04:58.53 | Shirik | well |
| 04:58.56 | Shirik | player names ARE units |
| 04:59.00 | Shirik | if they're in your party |
| 04:59.02 | Esamynn | indeed |
| 04:59.05 | EmosaurusRex | Oh. |
| 04:59.13 | Shirik | if and only if they're in your party/raid |
| 04:59.22 | Shirik | but you have to be EXTREMELY careful when relying on this |
| 04:59.24 | EmosaurusRex | The party_members_changed event is thrown on invite |
| 04:59.35 | EmosaurusRex | so you're not necesarily in the party |
| 04:59.42 | Shirik | if you want I can show you some crazy code that protects against this, but even a UnitExists("Shirik") will throw an error if I am not in your party |
| 05:00.13 | EmosaurusRex | I suppose what I could do is check the number of party members |
| 05:00.32 | EmosaurusRex | if > 1 then check to see if they're in the party |
| 05:00.44 | Shirik | however |
| 05:00.48 | Shirik | if you're checking to see if they're in party |
| 05:00.55 | Shirik | you aren't going to be wanting to do UnitInParty("Shirik |
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| 05:01.01 | Shirik | that's going to give you pain, and a lot of it |
| 05:01.12 | EmosaurusRex | What would be the better way, then? |
| 05:01.14 | Shirik | use a for loop, query UnitName on each possible entry |
| 05:01.22 | Shirik | it's not fun, but it's about the only safe way to do it |
| 05:01.26 | Esamynn | better to store the character name as a key and then itterate through the names in your party, checking to see if they exist in your table |
| 05:01.37 | Esamynn | that's only 4 table lookups |
| 05:01.41 | Esamynn | worst case |
| 05:01.52 | art3mis | unless its a raid |
| 05:02.08 | Esamynn | art3mis: same diff, you see my point, no? |
| 05:02.30 | art3mis | makes sense |
| 05:02.31 | Shirik | Even if it's bad, it's the only way you can really do it |
| 05:02.36 | Shirik | unless you want to do something god-awful ugly |
| 05:02.37 | Shirik | like |
| 05:02.54 | Shirik | pcall(function() return UnitInParty("Shirik"); end); |
| 05:02.58 | EmosaurusRex | This is my actual first attempt at an addon, so it will be god-awful ugly. :p |
| 05:02.59 | art3mis | you could add weighing as well |
| 05:03.00 | Shirik | and test for an error |
| 05:03.16 | art3mis | so say you join a 10man and its for 6 people you know and like and 1 bad person |
| 05:03.20 | Shirik | please don't do that |
| 05:03.44 | Esamynn | the only other way to do the test, your number of loops grows by multiples of the party size, instead of being fixed |
| 05:03.45 | EmosaurusRex | Lua isn't my first language, I stick to standards. |
| 05:03.45 | art3mis | itll weigh the entire party and if the value of the party exceeds the risk you apoogize, list the person you dont like and part ;P |
| 05:04.03 | art3mis | err reverse the party value part on that |
| 05:04.30 | art3mis | and it would fire on others joining as well |
| 05:04.34 | Shirik | your other option, of course |
| 05:04.34 | Shirik | is to use Conspiracy's API to do the work for you :D |
| 05:04.40 | art3mis | hah |
| 05:04.44 | Thunder_Child | shameless |
| 05:04.47 | Shirik | =D |
| 05:04.52 | art3mis | you mean the sub atmoic alpha conspiracy api? |
| 05:04.55 | Shirik | hey, all of the raid units are cached :D |
| 05:04.58 | Esamynn | EmosaurusRex: let me make sure I've got this right, you want to check if a player in the party is in your black list, each time P_M_C fires, correct? |
| 05:05.07 | EmosaurusRex | Correct. |
| 05:05.15 | Esamynn | EmosaurusRex: forget UnitInParty then |
| 05:05.30 | sag_ich_nicht | [07:04] <Shirik> is to use Conspiracy's API to do the work for you :D <--totally the best solution. |
| 05:05.35 | Shirik | hehehe |
| 05:05.44 | Shirik | But yeah, actually I'd go as far as to hook InviteUnit |
| 05:05.47 | abug | I prefer give up and go home |
| 05:06.01 | Shirik | InviteUnit doesn't need to be secure |
| 05:06.13 | sag_ich_nicht | Shirik then you can't invite in combat D: |
| 05:06.18 | Shirik | you're nuts |
| 05:06.19 | EmosaurusRex | I was meaning for this to be a learning experience too. Using someone elses APIs doesn't mean learning. :p |
| 05:06.21 | Shirik | sure you can |
| 05:06.25 | sag_ich_nicht | Shirik o rly |
| 05:06.43 | Shirik | EmosaurusRex: I love your position on that |
| 05:06.44 | Shirik | and it was more of a joke than anything; Conspiracy's not done :) |
| 05:06.44 | sag_ich_nicht | EmosaurusRex pfff |
| 05:06.50 | sag_ich_nicht | afk |
| 05:06.50 | Shirik | But seriously |
| 05:07.09 | Esamynn | for i = 1, 4 do if ( BanList[GetRealmName()][UnitName("party"..i)] ) then |
| 05:07.09 | Shirik | oldIU = InviteUnit; InviteUnit = function(...) --[[check blacklist here]]; InviteUnit(...) end |
| 05:07.11 | Esamynn | --this runs if a ban was found |
| 05:07.12 | Esamynn | end |
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| 05:07.32 | sag_ich_nicht | why do you even need by realm name? |
| 05:07.32 | Esamynn | oops, forgot an end, but you get my point I think |
| 05:07.38 | EmosaurusRex | Thank you all very much. |
| 05:07.40 | EmosaurusRex | Indeed I do. |
| 05:07.51 | EmosaurusRex | Off to debugging and stuff again, then.' |
| 05:07.54 | EmosaurusRex | Thanks. :) |
| 05:07.57 | Esamynn | yw |
| 05:08.09 | abug | black lists are bad, you McCarthy |
| 05:08.31 | sag_ich_nicht | I just use VanasKoS and add everyone bad to my KoS list |
| 05:08.31 | Shirik | that was a black book :P |
| 05:08.38 | Shirik | but I agree |
| 05:08.40 | sag_ich_nicht | then it just gives me a huge raid warning if someone joins. :O |
| 05:08.42 | Shirik | instead, I just blacklist entire guilds |
| 05:08.49 | sag_ich_nicht | lol |
| 05:08.56 | EmosaurusRex | I 110% support McCarythyism... commie. |
| 05:08.56 | sag_ich_nicht | reminds me of our server noob guild no. 1 |
| 05:08.59 | sag_ich_nicht | Sons of Hellfire |
| 05:09.02 | sag_ich_nicht | fukkin noobs D: |
| 05:10.11 | art3mis | i iwsh i could ignore an entire guild ;P |
| 05:10.22 | Shirik | I have a policy |
| 05:10.22 | abug | you can if there's one member |
| 05:10.25 | Shirik | I might be on a PvP server |
| 05:10.30 | art3mis | heh i actually used to play and group with bloodthorn on zuljin ;P |
| 05:10.31 | Shirik | But I still don't kill everyone I meet |
| 05:10.38 | Shirik | Instead, I only kill one guild on sight |
| 05:10.42 | Shirik | the others, I kill if they look hostile to me |
| 05:10.51 | art3mis | i try and kill everyone once |
| 05:10.52 | Shirik | but SACK must die every chance I get |
| 05:10.57 | abug | you're on zul'jin? |
| 05:11.00 | art3mis | i was |
| 05:11.04 | art3mis | on echo now |
| 05:11.09 | abug | boo |
| 05:11.18 | art3mis | still have my be pally on zuljin though |
| 05:11.48 | art3mis | who are you on there? |
| 05:12.00 | abug | I'm alliance side |
| 05:12.03 | art3mis | booo |
| 05:12.10 | art3mis | heh |
| 05:12.25 | art3mis | yer not rozalin are you? ;) |
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| 05:12.36 | art3mis | !c zuljin rozalin |
| 05:12.42 | art3mis | !c us zuljin rozalin |
| 05:12.49 | abug | !c us zul'jin rozalin |
| 05:12.57 | Shirik | US is busted |
| 05:12.59 | art3mis | oh yeah he hasnt fixed it yet for us |
| 05:13.01 | Shirik | because of the URL change |
| 05:13.26 | abug | purl, whaleslap thraebot |
| 05:13.27 | purl | ACTION beats thraebot upside and over the head with a freakishly huge killer whale named Hugh |
| 05:13.28 | art3mis | they changed earls? |
| 05:13.55 | art3mis | URL== Usually Retarded Link |
| 05:14.09 | art3mis | oh speaking of |
| 05:14.17 | art3mis | someone editted george bush's wiki page |
| 05:14.27 | art3mis | and put in jerk jerk jerk jerk jerk jerk jerk jerk jerk jerk |
| 05:14.59 | abug | he was jerking to george bush's page? |
| 05:15.59 | Cairenn | ewwww |
| 05:17.26 | sag_ich_nicht | oO |
| 05:18.08 | Thunder_Child | lol, "clean" ui http://img252.imageshack.us/img252/6673/wowscrnshot082107150218ik5.jpg |
| 05:18.30 | ckknight | ugh |
| 05:18.46 | Thunder_Child | i think thats fubar rape |
| 05:18.52 | abug | that's not a fubar it's a fubox |
| 05:19.09 | art3mis | heh open wau, tick select all, download |
| 05:19.53 | art3mis | http://www.ananova.com/news/story/sm_2472975.html |
| 05:20.14 | Shirik | woot |
| 05:20.16 | Shirik | fubox |
| 05:20.19 | Shirik | I like that |
| 05:20.45 | art3mis | ya know what would rule for chewing up mem and cpu? |
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| 05:20.50 | art3mis | if fubar scrolled |
| 05:20.56 | art3mis | until you moused over it |
| 05:21.12 | Thunder_Child | tickertabe fubar... |
| 05:21.17 | Thunder_Child | tickertape* |
| 05:21.20 | art3mis | hehe yeah |
| 05:21.33 | Droffats | I like it |
| 05:21.36 | art3mis | TT-fu |
| 05:21.43 | art3mis | or fu-TT |
| 05:22.21 | art3mis | and the wheelie mouse could make it scroll left and right with a little highlight window at the mouse like on a slide rule |
| 05:22.32 | Thunder_Child | or if you had multiple bars is would snake down them |
| 05:22.42 | art3mis | ooo verticle bars |
| 05:22.42 | Thunder_Child | or waterfall... |
| 05:22.52 | Thunder_Child | ckknight didnt like that one |
| 05:22.55 | art3mis | so it circles your whole screen, or bar placed areas |
| 05:23.05 | Thunder_Child | ...i think i am still supposed to be making one of those |
| 05:23.14 | art3mis | vertacle would be so good though |
| 05:23.29 | art3mis | you could just put the ones you want as icons only around your square minimap |
| 05:23.49 | art3mis | vertical |
| 05:24.52 | art3mis | can you lock fu-bars anywhere you want? |
| 05:25.03 | art3mis | or will the lock always snap them to top or bottom |
| 05:25.21 | Thunder_Child | i thought at some point you could but i dont know anymore |
| 05:25.48 | art3mis | i still need to make my hello kitty ui |
| 05:26.12 | art3mis | i wish dart and duf still existed |
| 05:26.15 | art3mis | and worked |
| 05:26.35 | art3mis | i want a circle map with whiskers and bunny ears |
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| 05:31.35 | art3mis | sweet you can watch movies on yer pc streamed now |
| 05:31.44 | art3mis | from netflix as part of yer account |
| 05:32.46 | Corrodias | okay, that paladin's screenshot has a few too many fubar plugins showing |
| 05:33.09 | Corrodias | all of those "configuration" ones could have their text turned off to show just an icon |
| 05:36.42 | Mr_Rabies2 | ah crap |
| 05:37.03 | Mr_Rabies2 | i didn't have a problem with the disconnect from daze to defense in 2.2 |
| 05:37.06 | Mr_Rabies2 | but now i do |
| 05:37.07 | Mr_Rabies2 | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=916732416&sid=1 |
| 05:37.13 | Mr_Rabies2 | i forgot about that :x |
| 05:39.15 | Corrodias | indeed, i can't imagine the change staying |
| 05:39.26 | Corrodias | was there any justification for changing it in the first place? |
| 05:39.28 | Corrodias | *given |
| 05:41.25 | Mr_Rabies2 | it makes sense for solo content |
| 05:41.49 | Corrodias | it does? |
| 05:41.51 | Mr_Rabies2 | because that means warriors, and paladins and druids to an extent, have an advantage |
| 05:42.54 | Corrodias | well, anyone except cloth-only-wearers can stack +defense if they want to |
| 05:43.02 | Corrodias | i wouldn't advise it if you're trying to do damage, though |
| 05:43.33 | Corrodias | -my- dps gear doesn't have defense, although i don't know what paladins and warriors do. prot paladins doing their aoe grinding might. |
| 05:43.34 | Mr_Rabies2 | warriors are more likely to carry a defense set anywhere |
| 05:43.47 | Mr_Rabies2 | i swap into defense gear for traveling for that exact reason, corr |
| 05:43.53 | Corrodias | ah |
| 05:44.35 | Mr_Rabies2 | they should compensate by keeping boss mobs from dazing as often |
| 05:44.36 | Corrodias | i hadn't thought of that. it's an interesting situation, but of course they won't implement something that nearly immobilizes tanks during instances, or at least not for long |
| 05:44.52 | Mr_Rabies2 | or at all, preferably |
| 05:44.54 | Corrodias | hell, bosses wouldn't bother me. when are you not facing the boss? it's other mobs |
| 05:45.04 | art3mis | heh naxx was funny |
| 05:45.05 | zenzelezz | no Corr |
| 05:45.05 | Mr_Rabies2 | corr, for bosses you have to kite |
| 05:45.08 | Corrodias | when one peels away and heads for a healer, i would like to be able to catch up to it |
| 05:45.09 | art3mis | so few people actually got in there |
| 05:45.12 | zenzelezz | Corrodias: fought Hydross? |
| 05:45.14 | Corrodias | can they daze you from the front? |
| 05:45.18 | Mr_Rabies2 | no |
| 05:45.18 | art3mis | and then tbc came out and there was no need to go in there |
| 05:45.19 | Mr_Rabies2 | only behind |
| 05:45.21 | zenzelezz | "Tank switch! Quick!" "DAZED!!!" |
| 05:45.28 | Corrodias | i haven't, zenz |
| 05:45.44 | zenzelezz | several encounters still where you have to move around |
| 05:45.45 | Mr_Rabies2 | art3mis, they're reworking naxx for WLK |
| 05:46.05 | art3mis | yeah i readed |
| 05:46.09 | art3mis | thats kinna cool |
| 05:46.13 | Corrodias | i want the same thing, so i won't argue against you on that point |
| 05:46.50 | Mr_Rabies2 | i'm thinking daze should be disabled in instances, or at least serverely reduced to compensate |
| 05:47.08 | zenzelezz | I do agree that it's unfair for a select few people to be immune to falling from the sky in Skettis and the like, but this is not the solution in my opinion |
| 05:47.23 | zenzelezz | Mr_Rabies2: seconded |
| 05:47.27 | Mr_Rabies2 | daze doesn't dismount you while flying |
| 05:47.35 | zenzelezz | sure does for my hunter |
| 05:47.37 | Mr_Rabies2 | swoop still dismounts everyone equally |
| 05:47.47 | Mr_Rabies2 | swoop's the ability they have |
| 05:47.48 | zenzelezz | you're Swoop immune while flying |
| 05:47.53 | Mr_Rabies2 | is it? |
| 05:47.55 | zenzelezz | yes |
| 05:48.00 | Mr_Rabies2 | hrmm |
| 05:48.09 | zenzelezz | I thought it was swoop before, but it is the daze that dismounts |
| 05:48.27 | Mr_Rabies2 | (it doesn't cancel flight form) |
| 05:48.31 | Corrodias | druids are not shifted out of flight form |
| 05:48.35 | Corrodias | everyone else goes splat. |
| 05:48.41 | zenzelezz | lucky bastards :) |
| 05:48.44 | Mr_Rabies2 | but i swore i didn't get dismounted upon being dazed |
| 05:48.49 | Mr_Rabies2 | on the ptr |
| 05:48.51 | Mr_Rabies2 | where i got one |
| 05:49.36 | Mr_Rabies2 | not that it matters |
| 05:49.48 | Mr_Rabies2 | i swap into defense gear while bombing because i have no reason to do any damage |
| 05:49.58 | Mr_Rabies2 | so i never get dazed anyway |
| 06:13.45 | Corrodias | good night |
| 06:19.51 | sag_ich_nicht | Mr_Rabies except no, because they change daze in 2.2 |
| 06:20.04 | sag_ich_nicht | enjoy your daze |
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| 06:41.43 | Mr_Rabies2 | for now, sag_ich_nicht |
| 06:42.01 | Mr_Rabies2 | they'll probably revert it at least partially once all the tanks complain of getting dazed and owned in raids |
| 06:44.48 | abug | or remove daze from boss associated mobs |
| 06:49.11 | Mr_Rabies2 | yeah, i was talking about that before |
| 06:49.23 | Mr_Rabies2 | but some bosses in heroics still have to be kited |
| 06:49.30 | Mr_Rabies2 | and they're not ?? |
| 06:57.46 | Shirik|zZz | nickserv, you're full of lies |
| 06:57.49 | Shirik|zZz | that is definitely my password |
| 07:02.56 | Mr_Rabies2 | in the grim future there is only ham |
| 07:03.16 | Thunder_Child | lol Shirik|zZz |
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| 07:05.14 | Mr_Rabies2 | bwahaha |
| 07:06.38 | Mr_Rabies2 | a friend of mine got a free mount out of convincing some guy he was a chick irl |
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| 07:07.04 | Mr_Rabies2 | oh, horny, desperate nerds, what won't you do |
| 07:07.26 | Thunder_Child | should i come back at a better time? |
| 07:08.24 | Thunder_Child | thatway Mr_Rabies2 and his nerds can have some privacy |
| 07:08.30 | dre^ | this is probably a silly question, but is there any indication when the current patch in testing will go live? |
| 07:08.48 | dre^ | I have no particular reason to need to know, other than that I'm anxious for the new features :) |
| 07:09.03 | Mr_Rabies2 | <Mr_Rabies2> a friend of mine got a free mount out of convincing some guy he was a chick irl |
| 07:09.09 | Mr_Rabies2 | no indication officially dre^ |
| 07:09.22 | Mr_Rabies2 | but it's gotten most big bugs worked out in the current build on the ptr |
| 07:09.26 | Mr_Rabies2 | so a week or two most likey |
| 07:09.28 | Mr_Rabies2 | likely |
| 07:10.07 | dre^ | ok. I guess I should file those audio bugs then... or maybe I'm using it wrong. the voice chat doesn't seem to be working for me. Know of any channels set up for testing audio, or should I just find somebody and make one? |
| 07:10.31 | dre^ | er, sorr |
| 07:10.37 | dre^ | sorry. this isn't blizard support :) |
| 07:11.28 | dre^ | imagine if there was an official WoW irc channel. |
| 07:13.45 | Cairenn | the forums, in real time? no thank you |
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| 07:14.22 | Cairenn | lol, still having multiple-personality issues dolby-wowi luv? |
| 07:14.27 | MoonWolf | anybody who thinks that is a good idea needs to be shot |
| 07:14.28 | MoonWolf | a lot |
| 07:14.34 | MoonWolf | with a chainsaw. |
| 07:14.44 | Cairenn | and burninated |
| 07:14.49 | MoonWolf | that too |
| 07:14.51 | dre^ | I'm really looking forward to what battleground audio chat will be like. I fully expect to see new forums of personality developing, otherwise reserved people hamming it up freestyle. should be awesome. |
| 07:15.02 | dre^ | 'forms' not 'forums' |
| 07:15.31 | Thunder_Child | i think an official IRC channel would be great...that way when you insult someone everyone would see |
| 07:15.44 | dre^ | I mean, people will want to be respected, so ... I don't really see a problem with abuse. |
| 07:15.45 | Thunder_Child | 1 big long flame |
| 07:16.24 | Cairenn | dre^: unh, what game is it that you are playing? obviously it isn't WoW |
| 07:16.33 | dre^ | ok, I'll give you an example |
| 07:16.38 | Thunder_Child | heh Cairenn, beat me to it |
| 07:16.47 | Thunder_Child | i just wouldnt have been as nice |
| 07:16.54 | MoonWolf | dre^, people want to be respected, however they don't respect anyone else |
| 07:17.00 | MoonWolf | therefor it does not work out |
| 07:17.06 | dre^ | I've never known anyone who has been ripped off buying enchants, when supplying the mats beforehand. It would be easy to gank somebody, but then you'd get shunned. |
| 07:17.12 | MoonWolf | SHUTUP, my plan is better! LISTEN TO ME. |
| 07:18.14 | dre^ | on the other hand, it could get a lot noisier. I'd imagine most kids can talk faster than they type... |
| 07:18.35 | MoonWolf | dre^, ever been on xbox live on a really filled up game of whatever ? |
| 07:18.37 | MoonWolf | imagine that |
| 07:18.56 | dre^ | I haven't, no. lots of voice comms, but only with people I played with regularly |
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| 07:19.15 | dre^ | I couldn't name a single player offhand who's in my battlegroup, but I feel like I know them all the same :) |
| 07:19.41 | dre^ | (other than people in my realm, of course ;) |
| 07:20.03 | dre^ | but yeah, I'm sure it gets crazy |
| 07:20.30 | MoonWolf | its not fun anymore |
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| 07:21.24 | dre^ | here's what I hope happens. the entire level of reasonable discourse is raised to accomodate the more mature players, because without them it's much less cool, and even the kids can recognize that. |
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| 07:22.09 | dre^ | in the same way that kids can be friends with older people and interact in normal chat without voice, heh |
| 07:22.43 | dre^ | I'm sure there will be the spaz factor, but those people will get muted pretty fast, I'd guess |
| 07:22.59 | Cairenn | dre^: that's what we can all hope, but you can also understand why people are rather sceptical |
| 07:23.06 | dre^ | for sure |
| 07:23.19 | Cairenn | just look at the official forums ... |
| 07:23.33 | MoonWolf | i want more ignoreslots |
| 07:23.37 | dre^ | it's a mess in places, but I still enjoy reading and contributing at times |
| 07:23.46 | dre^ | and yes, there should be a LOT more ignore slots |
| 07:23.54 | dre^ | can't figure out why it's limited so badly |
| 07:24.27 | dre^ | I know they're doing that all server side, and additional names take up additional space, but come on. this isn't 1993. |
| 07:24.40 | dre^ | or 1972 for that matter |
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| 07:30.04 | Cairenn|afk | night guys |
| 07:30.16 | dre^ | see ya :) |
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| 07:32.22 | anakha | when a addon states "incompatible" is is programmed wrong? |
| 07:32.31 | anakha | is it* |
| 07:32.36 | Cairenn|afk | no, it means it hasn't been updated for 2.0 |
| 07:32.59 | anakha | how do i du that? |
| 07:33.14 | Cairenn|afk | are you the original author? |
| 07:33.17 | anakha | i spell like a monkey today |
| 07:33.25 | anakha | yes its my very first hello world addon |
| 07:33.43 | Cairenn|afk | that makes no sense then |
| 07:34.01 | Cairenn|afk | you're using the most recent version of the tutorial? |
| 07:34.15 | anakha | the one on wowดs main page |
| 07:34.17 | Thunder_Child | you simply need to update the toc i belive |
| 07:34.44 | anakha | ## interface 6898 |
| 07:34.47 | Thunder_Child | i could be wrong...helps to be an author |
| 07:34.50 | Punkie` | it should say ## Interface: 20100 |
| 07:35.16 | Cairenn|afk | they haven't updated the tutorial TOC number? |
| 07:35.20 | Cairenn|afk | oi vey |
| 07:35.40 | Cairenn|afk | I'll smack them, get it fixed |
| 07:35.44 | anakha | hmm.. where do i find interface number |
| 07:35.46 | Thunder_Child | i thought that was oy vey |
| 07:35.54 | Cairenn|afk | Thunder_Child: either or |
| 07:36.07 | Punkie` | anakha: It's in the .toc file |
| 07:36.16 | Punkie` | right at the top |
| 07:36.18 | Thunder_Child | well yiddish doesnt translate in multiples usualy |
| 07:36.28 | Thunder_Child | w/e |
| 07:36.30 | anakha | yeah. but the real number not the one i wrote |
| 07:36.41 | Punkie` | I just told you it |
| 07:36.56 | Cairenn|afk | Punkie`: no, not what he means |
| 07:37.07 | Punkie` | Oh how do you know what the right one to use is? |
| 07:37.24 | Cairenn|afk | couple different ways |
| 07:37.28 | anakha | yes. sorry for not beeing clear |
| 07:37.30 | Punkie` | I just download the latest FrameXML and get it from there usually |
| 07:37.38 | Punkie` | ~framexml |
| 07:37.38 | purl | get the official Blizzard Interface AddOn Kit here: http://www.blizzard.com/support/wow/?id=aww01671p or view it online at http://wdn.wowinterface.com/ |
| 07:37.46 | Cairenn|afk | Punkie`: yeah, but that's the part he's not understanding |
| 07:37.53 | Punkie` | ah |
| 07:38.15 | Punkie` | anakha: Download the Interface addon kit, then when you have done you will see a lot of interface files |
| 07:38.26 | Cairenn|afk | anakha: when a new patch comes out, you have to re-run the blizz addon kit, it'll update the file for you with the proper number |
| 07:38.44 | Cairenn|afk | or you can just go to wdn.wowinterface.com, beladona usually has it updated pretty quick |
| 07:38.51 | Mr_Rabies2 | oh man |
| 07:38.58 | anakha | ahh.. thanx alot.. |
| 07:39.02 | Mr_Rabies2 | the power in my hands is frightening at the moment |
| 07:39.04 | Cairenn|afk | plus, we have the toc in the channel topic here *points up* |
| 07:39.04 | Punkie` | yes, you can always find it here: http://wdn.wowinterface.com/latest |
| 07:39.36 | Punkie` | From the link above find the FrameXML.toc |
| 07:39.48 | Punkie` | in there should be the latest and greatest toc numbet to use |
| 07:39.57 | Punkie` | s/numbet/number/ |
| 07:40.15 | Mr_Rabies2 | i just wrote a 6 line script that notices the channel once for every person in the channel a random number between 1 and 9999999999999999 with a random color and background, it frightens me how easy this stuff is to write :x |
| 07:40.20 | Mr_Rabies2 | of course i'd never use it on you |
| 07:40.22 | Cairenn|afk | I dunno, numbet sounds pretty good too |
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| 07:40.31 | anakha | thanx.. this is by far the best forum/channel iดve been to. everyone is so helpfull. |
| 07:40.42 | Mr_Rabies2 | i like #wowi-lounge and its crew far too much to do anything malicious to it :p |
| 07:40.58 | Cairenn|afk | heh, you've caught us on a good night, it isn't always this ... normal .... |
| 07:41.06 | Thunder_Child | anakha, shhhhh, you will ruin our reputation |
| 07:42.23 | anakha | oh man. its still incompatible |
| 07:42.55 | Cairenn|afk | did you exit completely and restart? |
| 07:43.01 | anakha | yes |
| 07:43.48 | Cairenn|afk | post the first part of your toc file at http://wowi.pastey.net then put the link here and someone can take a look at it for you |
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| 07:45.40 | anakha | i found it i forgot to put : after "interfance" |
| 07:45.48 | Cairenn|afk | ah |
| 07:46.06 | anakha | sorry for all the trouble |
| 07:46.11 | Cairenn|afk | no trouble |
| 07:46.45 | anakha | is there any better way to check it. than to login/logout and edit with the character im playing with |
| 07:47.09 | Thunder_Child | have someone do it for you..... |
| 07:47.14 | Cairenn|afk | Thunder_Child: lol |
| 07:47.27 | Thunder_Child | night x2 Cairenn|afk |
| 07:47.33 | Cairenn|afk | hehehe |
| 07:47.50 | Thunder_Child | if i there has to be a 3rd your in trouble |
| 07:48.04 | anakha | no i dont mean that. i mean is theres is like a own little copy of wow i can download or something so i donดt take so damn long to login |
| 07:48.30 | Cairenn|afk | Thunder_Child: and you'll do what about it, precisely? |
| 07:48.57 | Thunder_Child | i dunno...but i bet me and the 100 other people on the channel can think of something apropriate |
| 07:49.25 | Thunder_Child | anakha, you mean something that checks for syntax errors? |
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| 07:49.43 | Cairenn|afk | anakha: this used to be nice http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info5095-WoWBench.html |
| 07:50.50 | Cairenn|afk | there's always the trick of dragging it into a web browser page |
| 07:51.19 | anakha | thanx alot |
| 07:52.44 | Mr_Rabies2 | have you guys ever written a script and been afraid of how easy it was to write, yet it does something incredibly powerful? :x |
| 07:53.04 | Cairenn|afk | anakha: http://www.wowinterface.com/forums/showpost.php?p=64931&postcount=3 (skip the part about the near death experience and move straight on to the stuff about the UI panel) |
| 07:53.08 | Mr_Rabies2 | i just did that with a mirc script and i scared myself :[ |
| 07:53.24 | Cairenn|afk | specifically the link to the video |
| 07:53.50 | Thunder_Child | /patontheback Mr_Rabies2 |
| 07:54.03 | Thunder_Child | ...as far as what? |
| 07:54.17 | Cairenn|afk | purl, give Mr_Rabies a cookie |
| 07:54.18 | purl | ACTION gives Mr_Rabies a home-baked macadamia nut cookie to cheer him up. |
| 07:54.45 | Mr_Rabies2 | i'm not trying to brag or anything, but this script is frightening |
| 07:54.50 | Mr_Rabies2 | in the wrong hands it'd be ugly |
| 07:54.55 | Thunder_Child | hmm....i could nonstop call your cell at 4am... |
| 07:55.10 | Mr_Rabies2 | but it was so easy to write and that's what frightens me |
| 07:55.26 | Cairenn|afk | Thunder_Child: and that would accomplish what, since it's not on? |
| 07:55.35 | Mr_Rabies2 | he could fill your inbox |
| 07:55.43 | Mr_Rabies2 | with bizarre messages |
| 07:56.00 | Thunder_Child | i could post it on the .....*dun dun dun* WEB! *gasp* |
| 07:56.02 | Cairenn|afk | lol, after the stuff that was text'd around at blizzcon? |
| 07:56.22 | Cairenn|afk | Thunder_Child: lol, not if you value your life you won't |
| 07:56.48 | Thunder_Child | i have one better, put it on the wow forums and tell people they can get free addon support by calling that # |
| 07:57.06 | Mr_Rabies2 | or 4chan |
| 07:57.16 | Mr_Rabies2 | i wouldn't wish that upon my worst enemies though |
| 07:57.35 | Mr_Rabies2 | no one deserves to face the wrath of anonymous |
| 07:57.57 | Cairenn|afk | luckily for me, I think I can trust you guys enough that I don't really have to worry about any of you abusing that trust |
| 07:58.10 | Mr_Rabies2 | i wouldn't give my number out to anyone |
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| 07:58.14 | Cairenn|afk | (those of you who have my cell #, courtesy BlizzCon) |
| 07:58.30 | Mr_Rabies2 | i've seen the things that the internet can do |
| 07:58.43 | Cairenn|afk | don't you just hate it when people go and call you on it Thunder_Child? |
| 07:58.51 | Cairenn|afk | damn decency |
| 07:58.53 | Mr_Rabies2 | i've seen lives ruined because of it |
| 07:59.14 | Thunder_Child | i know....sucks....maybe i should be more like house |
| 08:00.22 | zenzelezz | the bad thing about compiling the kernel yourself is you can't as easily blame someone else if it has quirks |
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| 08:00.48 | Thunder_Child | zenzelezz....kinda random |
| 08:01.01 | zenzelezz | the hardware clock on this computer runs at normal speed, but the software clock seems to go a tiny bit too fast, adding up to a few minutes every so often |
| 08:01.10 | Cairenn|afk | Mr_Rabies: so explain again what this script does? I didn't really follow it |
| 08:01.24 | zenzelezz | if I wasn't so lazy I'd set up a cronjob to run hwclock --hctosys |
| 08:01.37 | Mr_Rabies2 | it notices the channel once for every user in the channel with a random string of numbers in a random color and background |
| 08:01.48 | Mr_Rabies2 | and it took about 10 seconds and 6 lines of code to write :x |
| 08:01.51 | Cairenn|afk | and that does what? |
| 08:01.58 | Thunder_Child | yea, i'm not getting it either |
| 08:02.21 | Mr_Rabies2 | it ends up looking something like this: |
| 08:02.33 | Mr_Rabies2 | notice $chan $+ $rand(1,15) $+ , $+ $rand(1,15) $rand(1,9999) $+ $rand(1,9999) $+ $rand(1,9999) $+ $rand(1,9999) $+ $rand(1,9999) $+ $rand(1,9999) |
| 08:02.35 | Mr_Rabies2 | eep |
| 08:02.39 | Mr_Rabies2 | mah code |
| 08:02.50 | Mr_Rabies2 | 15,11 267319227731887215182685 |
| 08:02.53 | Cairenn|afk | you mean it would spam the channel with 110 msgs, in different text & background colours? |
| 08:03.00 | Mr_Rabies2 | except in a notice |
| 08:03.08 | Cairenn|afk | you're right, we'd have to kill you |
| 08:03.13 | Mr_Rabies2 | which i won't do because that's well regarded as spam regardless of how many lines it is |
| 08:03.22 | Cairenn|afk | yup |
| 08:03.29 | Thunder_Child | na, dont kill him, send him to channels you dont like |
| 08:03.35 | Mr_Rabies2 | it was a proof of concept |
| 08:03.42 | Mr_Rabies2 | but i managed to scare myself with some code |
| 08:03.45 | Mr_Rabies2 | :[ |
| 08:04.10 | Cairenn|afk | okay, now I comprehend and it's 4am, now _I_ am the one who is scared ... |
| 08:04.11 | Cairenn|afk | night |
| 08:04.30 | Mr_Rabies2 | Go back to sleep, garfield |
| 08:04.53 | Thunder_Child | did you just call her a fat lazy pussy? |
| 08:05.11 | Mr_Rabies2 | i'm going to plead the 5th |
| 08:05.25 | Thunder_Child | she's canadian...doesnt fly |
| 08:05.49 | Mr_Rabies2 | i'm going to plead whatever they have that prevents self incrimination assuming they have that |
| 08:06.29 | Thunder_Child | they dont..they are smart |
| 08:06.42 | Mr_Rabies2 | can't say i've read any of the canadian bill of rights or whatever its equivalent is |
| 08:06.47 | Mr_Rabies2 | because i've no desire to live there |
| 08:10.34 | Mr_Rabies2 | http://www.wowarmory.com/updates.xml |
| 08:10.46 | Mr_Rabies2 | Fast Sorting ZOMG! |
| 08:11.08 | Mr_Rabies2 | (that's the new armory url) |
| 08:12.19 | Mr_Rabies2 | wow, it IS much more streamlined |
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| 08:13.11 | Thunder_Child | huh..they are still calling it beta |
| 08:14.05 | AnduinLothar | tooltips still dont work on Camino |
| 08:17.14 | anakha | i must be such a moron. ive corrected it so it works now. but now i donดt se it when im ingame |
| 08:29.33 | Arrowmaster | armory tooltips still borken in seamonkey too |
| 08:33.06 | Mr_Rabies2 | well then |
| 08:33.10 | Mr_Rabies2 | a small personal victory |
| 08:33.17 | Mr_Rabies2 | i already made a search plugin for the new armory |
| 08:33.25 | Mr_Rabies2 | for firefox |
| 08:33.30 | Mr_Rabies2 | makes arenas a bit easier :P |
| 08:33.39 | Mr_Rabies2 | hrm, he's holy, go for the priest first |
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| 08:36.22 | Mr_Rabies2 | woohoo my profile finally got updated |
| 08:36.32 | Mr_Rabies2 | http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Llane&n=Raybeez |
| 08:36.49 | Mr_Rabies2 | man, i need better bracers |
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| 08:44.47 | AnduinLothar | can you inspect without player input? |
| 08:45.20 | AnduinLothar | nm |
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| 09:10.01 | sag_ich_nicht | MEIN GOTT |
| 09:10.01 | sag_ich_nicht | http://www.wowinsider.com/2007/08/21/schrodingers-jump/ |
| 09:12.26 | Mr_Rabies2 | brb |
| 09:12.31 | Mr_Rabies2 | testing my port triggering |
| 09:12.34 | nevcairiel | lol |
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| 09:14.01 | Mr_Rabies2 | and-a one more time |
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| 09:14.19 | Mr_Rabies2 | there we go |
| 09:14.24 | Mr_Rabies2 | now i properly ident upon login |
| 09:15.29 | Mr_Rabies | and now over here :O |
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| 09:18.21 | bleeter | Cairenn|afk: pidgin 2.1.1 out, should be able to move contacts around the blist again... oops |
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| 09:18.50 | Mr_Rabies2 | sorry for joinspamming |
| 09:18.53 | Mr_Rabies2 | only ONE more try |
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| 09:19.01 | bleeter | bullshit |
| 09:19.03 | Mr_Rabies2 | hrm |
| 09:19.08 | bleeter | sif you really are sorry ;0 :P |
| 09:19.11 | Mr_Rabies2 | i don't get an ident response on this |
| 09:19.17 | Mr_Rabies2 | er on my desktop |
| 09:19.20 | Mr_Rabies2 | but i do on my laptop |
| 09:19.22 | Mr_Rabies2 | O_o |
| 09:19.36 | bleeter | what yiou should be doing, is not autojoining here, but #test, while.. um... testing ;) |
| 09:19.52 | bleeter | that is if you really need a /join during your testing |
| 09:20.04 | Thunder_Child | will MoveAnything! or Fluid Frames move the ingame fps counter? |
| 09:20.21 | Mr_Rabies2 | i tried with fluidframes and got nothing |
| 09:20.33 | Mr_Rabies2 | i used to be able to move it with mobileframes though |
| 09:20.54 | Thunder_Child | and what is a special action button> |
| 09:20.56 | Thunder_Child | ?* |
| 09:23.02 | sag_ich_nicht | Mr_Rabies stop using the ingame FPS counter, and it should be able to move it |
| 09:23.03 | sag_ich_nicht | but |
| 09:23.04 | sag_ich_nicht | AnduinLothar |
| 09:23.08 | sag_ich_nicht | answer Mr_Rabies2 |
| 09:23.12 | Mr_Rabies2 | what |
| 09:23.15 | Mr_Rabies2 | O_o |
| 09:23.20 | Mr_Rabies2 | i don't use the ingame one anyway |
| 09:23.23 | Mr_Rabies2 | i was just testing it |
| 09:23.41 | Mr_Rabies2 | i use the one in performancefu |
| 09:24.22 | AnduinLothar | ? |
| 09:24.32 | AnduinLothar | no it wont |
| 09:24.36 | AnduinLothar | it's not a frame |
| 09:24.51 | sag_ich_nicht | there you have it. then you couldn't move it with mobileframes, either |
| 09:24.55 | sag_ich_nicht | fix your memories, Mr_Rabies2 |
| 09:24.56 | AnduinLothar | MobileFrames used to give it a frame and reanchor it |
| 09:25.02 | sag_ich_nicht | oic |
| 09:25.08 | Mr_Rabies2 | i could move it for something |
| 09:25.09 | Mr_Rabies2 | ah |
| 09:25.11 | Mr_Rabies2 | that's why |
| 09:25.24 | sag_ich_nicht | you are a crazy man, AnduinLothar. |
| 09:25.28 | Mr_Rabies2 | i don't use the default one anyway, it's fugly |
| 09:25.41 | Mr_Rabies2 | good crazy |
| 09:25.46 | Mr_Rabies2 | like bjork |
| 09:25.48 | Mr_Rabies2 | not bad crazy |
| 09:25.51 | Mr_Rabies2 | like charles manson |
| 09:26.06 | Thunder_Child | bjork isnt crazy |
| 09:26.25 | Mr_Rabies2 | have you seen her music videos |
| 09:26.25 | bleeter | Mr_Rabies2: are you suggesting AnduinLothar's a short chick with a whiney voice and a weird accent? |
| 09:26.30 | Thunder_Child | yes |
| 09:26.30 | Mr_Rabies2 | indeed i am |
| 09:26.35 | bleeter | hot |
| 09:26.40 | Thunder_Child | not crazy...did like the one with the lesbian robots |
| 09:28.26 | Mr_Rabies2 | Thunder_Child |
| 09:28.34 | Thunder_Child | hmmm? |
| 09:28.39 | Mr_Rabies2 | how can you explain this other than huge amounts of crazy: http://youtube.com/watch?v=FPyTgmC3nQQ&mode=related&search= |
| 09:29.07 | AnduinLothar | :) i made a quick addont hat avgs your target or mouseover's item's iLvls :) it's like instant judgement |
| 09:29.25 | Mr_Rabies2 | bwahaha |
| 09:29.27 | bleeter | Mr_Rabies2: I think that's more that Michel Gondry's a crazy Frenchman! |
| 09:29.33 | Mr_Rabies2 | that too, bleeter |
| 09:29.35 | Mr_Rabies2 | a bit of both |
| 09:29.37 | Thunder_Child | uhhh.. Mr_Rabies2, most artists dont do their own music videos |
| 09:29.51 | Mr_Rabies2 | it's more than just the videos |
| 09:30.03 | sag_ich_nicht | [11:29] <+AnduinLothar> :) i made a quick addont hat avgs your target or mouseover's item's iLvls :) it's like instant judgement <--GIEV |
| 09:30.04 | Mr_Rabies2 | she's insane in interviews and stuff |
| 09:30.16 | bleeter | heh, I didn't realise Gondry directed Chappelle's Block Party... thing I learn |
| 09:30.18 | sag_ich_nicht | and if it displays it in the tooltip, i give you cookies D: |
| 09:30.26 | sag_ich_nicht | i need more reasons to flame shitequip noobs D: |
| 09:30.38 | sag_ich_nicht | AnduinLothar but could you make it not average it but median it? :O |
| 09:30.42 | Thunder_Child | thats not crazy, thats open anf free |
| 09:30.51 | Mr_Rabies2 | (crazy) |
| 09:31.03 | Thunder_Child | ~crazy Mr_Rabies2 |
| 09:31.04 | purl | ACTION drives Mr_Rabies2 insane by saying the exact same thing over and over |
| 09:31.42 | Mr_Rabies2 | http://youtube.com/watch?v=axg6AgYPF0E |
| 09:31.46 | Mr_Rabies2 | check her out in this interview |
| 09:32.14 | Thunder_Child | cant, dont have an account |
| 09:32.24 | bleeter | honestly, though, I see a lot of the Sledgehammer video in the Human Behaviour one |
| 09:32.56 | bleeter | or am I thinking of Big Time.. /shrug |
| 09:32.58 | Mr_Rabies2 | Bjork is crazy as is michael gondry |
| 09:33.07 | Mr_Rabies2 | the combination is pretty much awesome |
| 09:33.15 | Mr_Rabies2 | and john kricfalusi is crazy too |
| 09:33.23 | Mr_Rabies2 | he directed one of her videos i think |
| 09:33.45 | bleeter | not really a fan of bjork, but this remix is pretty cool |
| 09:33.52 | Mr_Rabies2 | http://youtube.com/watch?v=GYamPVzWlmo |
| 09:33.55 | Mr_Rabies2 | i like bjork |
| 09:34.02 | Mr_Rabies2 | but that doesn't mean she's not crazy |
| 09:34.10 | Mr_Rabies2 | crazy is generally a good thing when it comes to music |
| 09:34.24 | Mr_Rabies2 | she has one song that is like 5 minutes of a foghorn with a beat in the background on her latest cd |
| 09:34.46 | sag_ich_nicht | AnduinLothar gimme that addon D: |
| 09:35.16 | Thunder_Child | not crazy |
| 09:35.44 | Thunder_Child | wait...ok, crazy |
| 09:36.22 | Thunder_Child | the definition has more than what i was thinking |
| 09:36.32 | Mr_Rabies2 | if all her videos are batshit insane regardless of director |
| 09:36.58 | Mr_Rabies2 | there's gotta be a decent amount of crazy coming from her |
| 09:37.03 | Thunder_Child | "bizarre or fantastic" & "possessed by inordinate excitement" fit her |
| 09:37.37 | Mr_Rabies2 | also insane |
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| 09:37.54 | Mr_Rabies2 | and out of the ordinary |
| 09:38.00 | Nargiddley | http://youtube.com/watch?v=75WFTHpOw8Y is my favorite example of it |
| 09:38.05 | Mr_Rabies2 | bjork should be in the wikipedia article on crazy |
| 09:38.11 | Thunder_Child | uhh...nope, idont agree with insane |
| 09:38.20 | Thunder_Child | ~dict insane |
| 09:38.31 | Thunder_Child | na |
| 09:38.44 | bleeter | but that's only 1 of 4 entries |
| 09:38.57 | sag_ich_nicht | ~dict lunacy |
| 09:38.58 | bleeter | I suspect entry 2, 3 or 4 might have Mr_Rabies2's meaning |
| 09:38.58 | Mr_Rabies2 | i'd say she matches that pretty well |
| 09:39.24 | Mr_Rabies2 | in a good way |
| 09:39.24 | sag_ich_nicht | ...what. |
| 09:39.32 | Mr_Rabies2 | not in a "going to stab you in the throat with a knife way" |
| 09:39.36 | Mr_Rabies2 | er |
| 09:39.36 | bleeter | hmm, looking at dict(1)'s output, it doesn't... well, not from the 1913 webster (no suprise there) |
| 09:39.40 | Mr_Rabies2 | not in a "going to stab you in the throat with a knife" way |
| 09:39.42 | bleeter | from wordnet, though... |
| 09:39.45 | bleeter | <PROTECTED> |
| 09:39.45 | bleeter | <PROTECTED> |
| 09:39.45 | bleeter | <PROTECTED> |
| 09:39.57 | Mr_Rabies2 | are you watching her |
| 09:40.00 | Mr_Rabies2 | talk about her tv |
| 09:40.06 | Mr_Rabies2 | because that's pretty much crazy |
| 09:40.12 | Thunder_Child | she has more money that all of us put together.....hardly foolish |
| 09:41.10 | Mr_Rabies2 | insanity and foolishness are hardly synonymous |
| 09:41.17 | Mr_Rabies2 | actually, quite the opposite |
| 09:43.02 | Mr_Rabies2 | http://youtube.com/watch?v=nQB9d-MMIx0 |
| 09:43.04 | Mr_Rabies2 | i love this video |
| 09:43.14 | Mr_Rabies2 | the song gets stuck in your head, and it's a great video too |
| 09:44.31 | Mr_Rabies2 | david lynch is also insane, if he did a bjork video i think my brain would probably implode |
| 09:46.27 | Thunder_Child | i want to see steven lynch and bjork make a song together |
| 09:49.12 | Mr_Rabies2 | http://youtube.com/watch?v=vor65mNB8Uk |
| 09:49.27 | Mr_Rabies2 | david lynch is probably crazier than bjork |
| 09:49.39 | bleeter | yeah |
| 09:49.52 | bleeter | can't see Bjork doing anything that's even close to Blue Velvet |
| 09:50.14 | Mr_Rabies2 | then again |
| 09:50.18 | bleeter | seriously crazy, in the first definition |
| 09:50.24 | Mr_Rabies2 | i think he said he drinks something like 20 cups of coffee a day |
| 09:50.31 | Mr_Rabies2 | have you seen INLAND EMPIRE, bleeter? |
| 09:50.59 | sag_ich_nicht | mhm |
| 09:51.05 | sag_ich_nicht | looks like discord is now dead for good |
| 09:51.11 | Mr_Rabies2 | it was my first lynch movie and i think i had an aneurysm mid movie and am currently in a coma and this is a dream |
| 09:51.11 | bleeter | dude, I live on the pimple at the buttend of the world... would be lucky to get that on release before next year :( |
| 09:51.20 | Mr_Rabies2 | it's been dead for good for a long time, sag_ich_nicht |
| 09:51.32 | Mr_Rabies2 | he just didn't feel like admitting it |
| 09:51.36 | sag_ich_nicht | Mr_Rabies2: http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=1134195997&sid=1&pageNo=1 |
| 09:51.50 | Mr_Rabies2 | i wrote him off about a year ago |
| 09:52.55 | Mr_Rabies2 | i knew it was never going to get a fully working version |
| 09:53.07 | Mr_Rabies2 | DUF was too ambitious and he was too detached from coding |
| 09:53.56 | zenzelezz | http://saintgasoline.com/comics/2007-02-09.JPG |
| 09:54.19 | Thunder_Child | i really do like this one http://youtube.com/watch?v=JdxkVQy7QLM |
| 09:55.05 | Mr_Rabies2 | canon in d minor is so fucking depressing |
| 09:55.20 | Mr_Rabies2 | he's playing it in major which isn't depressing |
| 09:55.25 | Mr_Rabies2 | d minor is really depressing :[ |
| 09:55.31 | Thunder_Child | just listen |
| 09:56.44 | Mr_Rabies2 | that's why i played trumpet |
| 09:56.49 | Thunder_Child | heh |
| 09:56.58 | Mr_Rabies2 | we almost always get the melody or at least a countermelody |
| 09:57.13 | Mr_Rabies2 | canon in d is everywhere though |
| 09:57.37 | Thunder_Child | yes, i belive that is his point |
| 09:57.39 | Mr_Rabies2 | like, so many songs use rhythms from it :P |
| 09:57.42 | Mr_Rabies2 | it's good though |
| 09:58.01 | Mr_Rabies2 | a ton of my favorite songs use rhythms/chords/etc from it |
| 09:59.32 | Mr_Rabies2 | the sooner you realize that most music is just rehashed rhythms from hundreds or even thousands of years old the more you can enjoy music :P |
| 10:00.10 | Mr_Rabies2 | most movies/books/etc are just rehashed stories with settings and characters changed |
| 10:01.00 | Mr_Rabies2 | there's very little originality after all this time, it's all been done |
| 10:01.09 | Thunder_Child | no, it hasent |
| 10:01.10 | Mr_Rabies2 | there's only a finite amount of resources we can use |
| 10:01.24 | Thunder_Child | new things come up from time to time |
| 10:01.25 | [dRaCo] | most sentences on irc have already been said :รพ |
| 10:01.34 | Thunder_Child | just rare |
| 10:01.45 | Mr_Rabies2 | i'd say there's not much like most david lynch films |
| 10:02.02 | Mr_Rabies2 | especially not inland empire |
| 10:02.25 | Mr_Rabies2 | it has a couple movie-within-a-movie-within-a-movie type cliches |
| 10:02.31 | Mr_Rabies2 | but it has no real discernable story |
| 10:02.46 | Mr_Rabies2 | or if there was one, my brain was too busy trying to figure out what was going on to notice it |
| 10:03.44 | Mr_Rabies2 | i wish movies would use chords properly more often |
| 10:04.06 | Mr_Rabies2 | when they use the right chords it adds a real sense of emotion, but few movies get it right |
| 10:04.07 | Thunder_Child | hmm? |
| 10:04.11 | Thunder_Child | ah |
| 10:04.14 | Mr_Rabies2 | d minor is great for a sense of dread or sadness |
| 10:04.29 | Mr_Rabies2 | it'd be absolutely perfect for an h.p. lovecraft movie |
| 10:04.30 | Thunder_Child | i cant really see it for dread |
| 10:04.33 | Mr_Rabies2 | http://youtube.com/watch?v=ipzR9bhei_o |
| 10:05.20 | Mr_Rabies2 | that's about as menacing as midi can sound |
| 10:05.42 | Thunder_Child | uhh..thats not the same song |
| 10:05.50 | Mr_Rabies2 | nonono |
| 10:05.53 | Mr_Rabies2 | i mean the chord itself |
| 10:06.02 | Mr_Rabies2 | is really depressing |
| 10:06.16 | Mr_Rabies2 | the key |
| 10:06.24 | Mr_Rabies2 | most funeral, etc music is keyed in d minor |
| 10:06.25 | Thunder_Child | ah..been a long time |
| 10:06.37 | Mr_Rabies2 | there was a joke in spinal tap about d minor being the saddest chord |
| 10:06.39 | Mr_Rabies2 | but it's true |
| 10:08.12 | sag_ich_nicht | d minor=win |
| 10:08.14 | sag_ich_nicht | :O |
| 10:08.18 | Thunder_Child | i bet if you tried you could make a happy song in d minor |
| 10:08.27 | sag_ich_nicht | ...NOT. |
| 10:08.35 | Mr_Rabies2 | http://youtube.com/watch?v=guADTP3U4lo |
| 10:08.39 | Mr_Rabies2 | there's canon in d minor |
| 10:09.02 | Thunder_Child | isnt happy |
| 10:09.12 | Mr_Rabies2 | http://youtube.com/watch?v=cjqytLrEgC0 |
| 10:09.15 | Mr_Rabies2 | there's canon in d major |
| 10:09.20 | Mr_Rabies2 | huge huge difference in general mood |
| 10:09.34 | Mr_Rabies2 | notice, even pachelbel looks happier |
| 10:09.44 | sag_ich_nicht | especially if you play something in d minor in really old church on a pipe organ, which causes infrasound because of the curch structure :O |
| 10:09.51 | sag_ich_nicht | *church |
| 10:10.12 | sag_ich_nicht | of course, you don't have such churches in the US :O |
| 10:10.29 | Mr_Rabies2 | sure we do |
| 10:10.30 | sag_ich_nicht | *in a really |
| 10:10.34 | sag_ich_nicht | no, you don't. >:O |
| 10:10.38 | Mr_Rabies2 | they're just not that old generally |
| 10:10.43 | Thunder_Child | i dont...i'm jewish |
| 10:11.04 | bleeter | Thunder_Child: you're not jewish, you're a very naughty boy! :P |
| 10:11.04 | Mr_Rabies2 | there's plenty of big huge ones with great aural qualities |
| 10:11.13 | Thunder_Child | bleeter, same thing |
| 10:11.19 | sag_ich_nicht | Mr_Rabies if you say so |
| 10:11.36 | Mr_Rabies2 | get that really nice room filling sound |
| 10:12.06 | Mr_Rabies2 | it's really hard to get that sound in an open-air stadium with concrete seats though |
| 10:12.10 | sag_ich_nicht | Mr_Rabies well i live in vienna so... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/St._Stephen%27s_Cathedral%2C_Vienna |
| 10:12.11 | sag_ich_nicht | :P |
| 10:12.15 | Mr_Rabies2 | nigh impossible because everything echoes |
| 10:12.22 | bleeter | st stephen's is fkn awesome sound |
| 10:12.32 | sag_ich_nicht | bleeter my point exactly :O |
| 10:12.49 | Mr_Rabies2 | \Wikipedia does not have an article with this exact name. Please search for St. Stephen s Cathedral, Vienna in Wikipedia to check for alternative titles or spellings. |
| 10:13.04 | bleeter | Mr_Rabies2: wfm |
| 10:13.22 | Mr_Rabies2 | there's plenty of churches around these parts designed for maximum aural quality |
| 10:13.35 | Mr_Rabies2 | it's really not that hard to get proper acoustics |
| 10:13.48 | Mr_Rabies2 | lots of points so that sound can't bounce back |
| 10:13.59 | Mr_Rabies2 | stuff to soak up the waves, etc |
| 10:14.06 | sag_ich_nicht | [12:12] <Mr_Rabies2> \Wikipedia does not have an article with this exact name. Please search for St. Stephen s Cathedral, Vienna in Wikipedia to check for alternative titles or spellings. <--uh, you are missing an ' there. |
| 10:14.17 | Mr_Rabies2 | i hit search |
| 10:14.17 | sag_ich_nicht | tell your browser to properly parse %29 |
| 10:14.20 | Mr_Rabies2 | and it did the same thing |
| 10:14.35 | sag_ich_nicht | insert a ' instead of the %29 |
| 10:14.40 | sag_ich_nicht | because it's not a %20. |
| 10:14.45 | sag_ich_nicht | or just click the damn link :O |
| 10:14.58 | Mr_Rabies2 | i did |
| 10:15.00 | bleeter | Mr_Rabies2: I think you're not appreciating the true achievement of perfecting aural quality without a proper understanding of modern physics (properties of sound, materials for dampening/amplification, etc.) |
| 10:15.02 | Mr_Rabies2 | got that |
| 10:15.08 | Mr_Rabies2 | sure i do |
| 10:15.27 | Mr_Rabies2 | hell, back in marching band we used the acoustics of concrete/metal bleachers to an advantage |
| 10:15.32 | Mr_Rabies2 | for a delayed, echoing solo |
| 10:15.36 | sag_ich_nicht | i can top you, again. |
| 10:15.44 | Mr_Rabies2 | face the trumpet backwards and play right into a huge empty spot in the stands |
| 10:15.55 | bleeter | proper church acoustics, you should be able to hear a pin drop from where the preacher would be, at any point in the church. |
| 10:15.56 | Mr_Rabies2 | echos and you hear the sound about a second or two after he plays it |
| 10:16.07 | Mr_Rabies2 | a really nice effect |
| 10:16.15 | sag_ich_nicht | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Musikverein |
| 10:16.15 | Mr_Rabies2 | the trumpet player, that is |
| 10:16.16 | bleeter | it's not about the loudness sounding good, it's about the amplification of the most quiet sound |
| 10:16.21 | sag_ich_nicht | best. friggin. sound. evar. |
| 10:16.34 | Mr_Rabies2 | i know generally what makes the best acoustics |
| 10:16.49 | Mr_Rabies2 | sometimes you can use traditionally "bad" acoustic stuff for a disadvantage |
| 10:17.01 | Mr_Rabies2 | lots of points and soft materials that won't bounce the sound back, generally |
| 10:17.05 | bleeter | r |
| 10:17.06 | sag_ich_nicht | the only problem with the Musikverein acoustic is |
| 10:17.10 | sag_ich_nicht | it's TOO good. |
| 10:17.21 | sag_ich_nicht | like, you can play badly, and it still sounds good most of the time D: |
| 10:17.39 | sag_ich_nicht | (i am not exaggerating) |
| 10:17.44 | bleeter | sag_ich_nicht: only problem with concert halls in Vienna... *TOO MUCH FUCKING STRAUSS* |
| 10:17.54 | Mr_Rabies2 | yes |
| 10:18.17 | Mr_Rabies2 | hell, you can direct the walls properly to cover over awful clarinets if you know they suck |
| 10:18.32 | Mr_Rabies2 | (which ours did and we used the wall to compensate in concerts) |
| 10:18.37 | sag_ich_nicht | bleeter not really. |
| 10:19.10 | sag_ich_nicht | or i don't get what you mean :P |
| 10:19.52 | Mr_Rabies2 | how the hell do you spell tcichovsky |
| 10:19.52 | sag_ich_nicht | if you're refering to the Vienna New Year's Concert... it's been bad in the last few years, imho, with a few exceptions. |
| 10:19.52 | Mr_Rabies2 | argh |
| 10:20.53 | sag_ich_nicht | Tchaikovsky? |
| 10:21.23 | Mr_Rabies2 | thank you |
| 10:21.24 | Mr_Rabies2 | damn |
| 10:21.36 | sag_ich_nicht | well, actually it's ฤajkovskij but nvm D: |
| 10:22.22 | Mr_Rabies2 | he could kick that crazy beethoven sumbitch's ass |
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| 10:23.19 | Mr_Rabies2 | he pretty much perfected the "epic" sound |
| 10:24.11 | Mr_Rabies2 | mannn |
| 10:24.20 | Mr_Rabies2 | http://youtube.com/watch?v=77DgEqwRnrA the soloist in this is jowling like a mofo |
| 10:24.31 | Mr_Rabies2 | it's like nixon levels of jowling going on there |
| 10:36.04 | Thunder_Child | damit, where is 2.2, i want my free smites already |
| 10:37.21 | sag_ich_nicht | i want my damn doubled buff durations. |
| 10:37.28 | sag_ich_nicht | (do not want BoF/BoS nerf tho D:) |
| 10:42.14 | Mr_Rabies2 | free smites? |
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| 11:09.47 | bleeter | Thunder_Child: stuck in new audio API bug hell, I think |
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| 11:15.54 | sag_ich_nicht | boring |
| 11:16.00 | sag_ich_nicht | Mr_Rabies bleeter entertain me D: |
| 11:16.30 | Mr_Rabies2 | i'm grinding birdman ghosts |
| 11:20.35 | bleeter | sag_ich_nicht: did you not like my little dance? :'( |
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| 11:24.27 | Mr_Rabies2 | man |
| 11:24.33 | Mr_Rabies2 | the bringer of death |
| 11:24.38 | Mr_Rabies2 | has to be the most common world drop |
| 11:24.42 | Mr_Rabies2 | i've seen 3 drop |
| 11:25.25 | Mr_Rabies2 | 2 for me soloing |
| 11:25.28 | Mr_Rabies2 | and i don't usually grind |
| 11:25.31 | Mr_Rabies2 | and 1 in a group |
| 11:26.02 | Mr_Rabies2 | i've also seen pieces of the charlottes ivy, etc set drop a few times now |
| 11:26.15 | sag_ich_nicht | [13:20] <bleeter> sag_ich_nicht: did you not like my little dance? :'( <--that depends on your gender and looks. |
| 11:26.20 | sag_ich_nicht | :P |
| 11:26.32 | sag_ich_nicht | lol |
| 11:26.34 | sag_ich_nicht | bringer of death |
| 11:26.40 | bleeter | sag_ich_nicht: it's the net, it's whatever you want |
| 11:26.42 | sag_ich_nicht | noob weapon no. 1 |
| 11:26.48 | sag_ich_nicht | bleeter no it's not D: |
| 11:27.01 | sag_ich_nicht | Internet. Serious Business. |
| 11:27.25 | Mr_Rabies2 | bringer of death isn't bad at all for a boe |
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| 11:27.50 | bleeter | wish there was a Sex Farm subzone |
| 11:27.52 | Mr_Rabies2 | i've gotta find a decent winamp script |
| 11:28.04 | bleeter | and moar big bottoms |
| 11:28.07 | Mr_Rabies2 | it's called the newbie area for taurens, bleeter |
| 11:28.09 | sag_ich_nicht | Mr_Rabies there are blue QUESTREWARDS that are better. |
| 11:29.15 | bleeter | lol Mr_Rabies |
| 11:30.42 | Mr_Rabies2 | ah, sometimes it's great being a druid |
| 11:31.05 | Mr_Rabies2 | flying up to flight ceiling, then dropping form and going back in right before i hit the ground |
| 11:31.16 | Mr_Rabies2 | sometimes i miss :[ |
| 11:34.17 | sag_ich_nicht | heh |
| 11:34.23 | sag_ich_nicht | paladin-->bubble. |
| 11:34.35 | sag_ich_nicht | or even just blessing of protection, because falldamage is physical :O |
| 11:35.13 | Mr_Rabies2 | yourmomdamage is physical |
| 11:36.30 | foxlit | http://www.comedycentral.com/motherload/index.jhtml?ml_video=91639 |
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| 11:42.33 | Mr_Rabies2 | are there any addons that makes the tracking icon look like regular buffs? is that at all possible? |
| 11:42.55 | Mr_Rabies2 | i'm trying to clear all the buttons off my minimap |
| 11:43.08 | sag_ich_nicht | uh |
| 11:43.11 | sag_ich_nicht | yes. |
| 11:43.26 | sag_ich_nicht | combine simpleminimap with elkbuffbars. :O |
| 11:43.38 | Elkano | ??? |
| 11:43.40 | Mr_Rabies2 | i use squeenix |
| 11:43.49 | Elkano | ah :) |
| 11:44.03 | Mr_Rabies2 | i just want to make the tracking stuff look like any other buff |
| 11:44.16 | Elkano | yeah, EBB shows tracking as regular buff though the code to hide the minimap icon isn't in, yet |
| 11:44.52 | [dRaCo] | simpleminimap has an options to hide the tracking buffs from the minimap |
| 11:45.03 | sag_ich_nicht | Mr_Rabies2: switch to simpleminimap, squeenix has a few evil bugs. |
| 11:45.08 | Punkie` | easy: MiniMapTrackingFrame:UnregisterEvent"PLAYER_AURAS_CHANGED" |
| 11:45.13 | sag_ich_nicht | e.g. breaking my damn rendering. |
| 11:45.26 | Elkano | I'm not having any problems with squeenix |
| 11:45.43 | sag_ich_nicht | well you don't have 400+(not exaggerating) addons, do you? |
| 11:46.05 | Punkie` | why do you need 400+ addons? :I |
| 11:46.43 | sag_ich_nicht | i don't NEED 400+ addons. i just LIKE them all. |
| 11:46.52 | sag_ich_nicht | i can play with 0 addons, but it's a PITA |
| 11:47.33 | Elkano | well, my addon folder has 300 dirs |
| 11:48.10 | sag_ich_nicht | mine has 407 |
| 11:48.10 | sag_ich_nicht | :O |
| 11:48.43 | Elkano | well, on 1024x768 I can hardly fit anymore ;) |
| 11:48.49 | sag_ich_nicht | heh |
| 11:48.53 | sag_ich_nicht | 1680x1050 |
| 11:49.31 | Elkano | would be a bit overkill for a Ti4200 |
| 11:50.16 | Punkie` | Elkano: Use UI Scale! |
| 11:51.37 | Elkano | Punkie`, .064 |
| 11:51.43 | Elkano | ... 0.64 |
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| 11:51.51 | Punkie` | hehe |
| 11:52.00 | sag_ich_nicht | Elkano: 8800GTX 768 MB :P |
| 11:52.06 | Mr_Rabies2 | i wonder who the people are that camp stormspire for the limited supply items at 5 in the morning |
| 11:52.06 | Mr_Rabies2 | :/ |
| 11:52.18 | sag_ich_nicht | i can play Doom 3 with max details enforced by the driver and uncompressed textures. |
| 11:52.32 | sag_ich_nicht | (the game still sucks tho) |
| 11:52.32 | Mr_Rabies2 | <sag_ich_nicht> Mr_Rabies2: switch to simpleminimap, squeenix has a few evil bugs. |
| 11:52.41 | Mr_Rabies2 | is there a list of said evil bugs? |
| 11:52.56 | Punkie` | I've never had a bug with squeenix tbh |
| 11:53.01 | sag_ich_nicht | no, because i had to remove it after installing it because it somehow managed to break my rendering. |
| 11:53.22 | sag_ich_nicht | after resizing it a bit |
| 11:53.53 | sag_ich_nicht | probably putting the minimap texture over the viewport or all of the screen on some onupdates, not sure what caused it, and i CBA to debug it, but it was enough for me to remove it :O |
| 11:54.24 | Mr_Rabies2 | heh |
| 11:54.29 | Mr_Rabies2 | there was a bug with one of my addons |
| 11:54.33 | Mr_Rabies2 | i think it was moveanything |
| 11:54.44 | Mr_Rabies2 | it stretched the x and y of the minimap to fill the whole screen occasionally |
| 11:54.48 | Mr_Rabies2 | x or y or both |
| 12:02.44 | Mr_Rabies2 | also, are there any recent mount/flight form trinket addons? |
| 12:03.01 | Mr_Rabies2 | simplemountequip doesn't support the skybreaker whip or flight form |
| 12:03.16 | Mr_Rabies2 | and there's a couple hacked together versions floating around but they're iffy |
| 12:04.30 | Mr_Rabies2 | gonna try mountup |
| 12:04.36 | Mr_Rabies2 | closetgnomemount doesn't work with flight form |
| 12:07.06 | Punkie` | Well it's technically not a mount :D |
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| 12:08.44 | bleeter | is it just me, or are there many players who also get kicks out of sheeping/pidding rats/chickens/cats as well as fearing them? |
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| 12:10.20 | JoshBork1 | you mean pigging? |
| 12:14.44 | bleeter | erm, yeah |
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| 12:29.37 | Mr_Rabies2 | i do, bleeter |
| 12:29.48 | Mr_Rabies2 | esp when they would stay shee[ upon death |
| 12:29.51 | Mr_Rabies2 | sheep* |
| 12:30.11 | Mr_Rabies2 | okay, i have no clue what mountup is for |
| 12:30.16 | Mr_Rabies2 | it seems pretty useless atm |
| 12:30.17 | Mr_Rabies2 | O_o |
| 12:33.27 | Mr_Rabies2 | hrmmm |
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| 12:55.06 | Mr_Rabies2 | :( |
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| 12:57.24 | nevcairiel | mountup equips riding gear when mounting |
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| 12:57.52 | nevcairiel | and dismounts you on flightmasters or other stuff |
| 12:58.10 | Mr_Rabies2 | brb |
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| 13:02.48 | Mr_Rabies | i think one of the fans in my laptop may be on its way out |
| 13:02.54 | Mr_Rabies | i hope that's all it is and not the hdd |
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| 13:36.41 | anakha | hi guys |
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| 13:37.01 | TS|Skrom | ROAR |
| 13:37.51 | anakha | is there anyway to make a bar that tells me how many of an specific item i have? |
| 13:38.01 | anakha | dont tell me how.. just if its possible |
| 13:38.34 | TS|Skrom | Yes |
| 13:38.48 | Industrial | a bar with icons? |
| 13:38.53 | Industrial | like, an actionbar/ |
| 13:39.03 | TS|Skrom | I assumed he meant statusbar :( |
| 13:39.11 | anakha | dont have to be icons. but would be nice |
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| 13:39.46 | Valtier | Hello |
| 13:39.50 | Industrial | there's loottracker; http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info4671-LootTracker.html |
| 13:39.53 | Industrial | Valtier: lo |
| 13:40.11 | anakha | ahh i have a look |
| 13:40.17 | Industrial | there was oen too that does icons and party syncing but i forgot the name |
| 13:40.56 | Valtier | Anyone know how to change your wowwiki skin back to wowwiki default after selecting nostalgia? |
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| 13:41.28 | Industrial | #wowwiki :) |
| 13:41.36 | Valtier | Thanks |
| 13:53.51 | anakha | hmm looks way to complicated to me.i just started "programming" yesterday |
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| 14:06.42 | Lin | morning all! |
| 14:06.51 | TS|Skrom | 'owdy |
| 14:07.17 | TS|Skrom | do cat and bear forms benefit from double damage crits? I can't say I've ever really watched for that. |
| 14:07.32 | TS|Skrom | I would easily assume so but wasn't sure |
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| 14:22.09 | Industrial | wait no |
| 14:22.11 | Industrial | ew |
| 14:22.14 | Industrial | :/\ |
| 14:25.54 | zenzelezz | might have been linked already: http://www.myspace.com/illidanthebetrayer |
| 14:33.57 | deltron | lol |
| 14:33.58 | deltron | he's so emo |
| 14:34.21 | deltron | <3 murky |
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| 14:45.27 | Valaron|Work | Number 6 in queue for Dell Chat. Estimated time is 3 mins 18 secs |
| 14:45.34 | Valaron|Work | Grr |
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| 14:50.55 | Valaron|Work | Next in queue! |
| 14:56.47 | Industrial | _dell_ ? |
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| 14:59.42 | Shirik | 1.28MB/sec, 59:04 remaining |
| 14:59.57 | zenzelezz | downloading Ace? |
| 15:00.00 | Shirik | I wish I had this at my house in florida :( |
| 15:00.07 | Shirik | no, VS 2008 |
| 15:00.22 | zenzelezz | doubt I'm switching from 2003 any time soon |
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| 15:00.35 | Shirik | I still got 2003 I just want to check it out |
| 15:01.11 | nevcairiel | is VS 2008 final now? |
| 15:01.15 | Shirik | no, Beta 2 |
| 15:01.37 | nevcairiel | i use 2005, happy with it |
| 15:01.45 | Shirik | I had 2005 |
| 15:01.55 | Shirik | then I realized that the school distributes it without a key |
| 15:01.59 | nevcairiel | heh |
| 15:02.00 | Shirik | so I couldn't install it |
| 15:02.06 | Shirik | so I called tech support |
| 15:02.12 | Shirik | they're like "Yeah we lost the key" |
| 15:02.16 | nevcairiel | lol |
| 15:02.18 | Shirik | I'm like "you guys are idiots" |
| 15:02.21 | Shirik | so I'm on 2003 |
| 15:02.40 | cog|work | i've got 03 & 05 |
| 15:02.41 | Shirik | they probably got the key by now but I don't feel like dealing with them again |
| 15:02.42 | nevcairiel | yeah i am running on school license too |
| 15:02.44 | nevcairiel | MSDNAA ftw |
| 15:03.02 | zenzelezz | AA? |
| 15:03.04 | cog|work | I didn't realize 05 was right around the corner when i bought 03 :( |
| 15:03.09 | nevcairiel | Academic Alliance |
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| 15:03.25 | zenzelezz | I bought VS2003 standard and tossed the free Pro compiler in |
| 15:03.46 | nevcairiel | i bought the original vs.net standard |
| 15:03.49 | nevcairiel | what was it, 2002? |
| 15:03.55 | Mr_Rabies | goddamn dell laptops are a bitch to take apart |
| 15:04.04 | Mr_Rabies | this whole time i've been working on it |
| 15:04.11 | Mr_Rabies | since i said i think my laptop fan is dying |
| 15:04.21 | cog|work | wasn't .net the name for both 02 & 03? |
| 15:04.36 | Shirik | well |
| 15:04.42 | zenzelezz | ".NET" was part of the name |
| 15:04.44 | Shirik | 2003 I think was called ".NET 2004" |
| 15:04.47 | Shirik | 2003* |
| 15:04.56 | Shirik | 2002 I have no idea |
| 15:04.59 | zenzelezz | VS2003 .NET |
| 15:05.03 | nevcairiel | yeah there was one before 2003 |
| 15:05.08 | nevcairiel | without year tag i think |
| 15:05.25 | nevcairiel | which was labeld afterwards as 2002 |
| 15:05.35 | zenzelezz | something like that |
| 15:05.47 | zenzelezz | I had VC++6 before getting 2003.NET though =D |
| 15:05.55 | cog|work | same |
| 15:06.06 | Mr_Rabies | and my laptop fan was pretty nasty looking |
| 15:06.14 | nevcairiel | who didnt have VC6 |
| 15:06.16 | nevcairiel | :) |
| 15:06.19 | Mr_Rabies | dell didn't put any filters on the fan slots |
| 15:06.37 | Mr_Rabies | and i shed hair like crazy, it was pretty ugly |
| 15:06.44 | Mr_Rabies | either that or a cat got stuck in my fan somehow |
| 15:07.03 | Valaron|Work | That's pretty raunchy. |
| 15:07.14 | Mr_Rabies | yeah |
| 15:07.30 | Mr_Rabies | i have to put filters on all my fans and stuff because i shed so much |
| 15:07.44 | Valaron|Work | My work is almost exclusively using Dell. |
| 15:07.46 | Mr_Rabies | curse you european mutt heritage |
| 15:07.57 | nevcairiel | is that why you play a feral druid? |
| 15:07.58 | nevcairiel | :D |
| 15:08.02 | Mr_Rabies | possibly |
| 15:08.08 | Mr_Rabies | i grow a full beard in about a month |
| 15:08.36 | Mr_Rabies | i kinda look like the orcs when you give them the medium sized beard |
| 15:08.41 | Mr_Rabies | similar body shape too |
| 15:08.44 | Mr_Rabies | i'm just not green |
| 15:08.44 | Mr_Rabies | :x |
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| 15:09.08 | Mr_Rabies | dammit |
| 15:09.15 | Mr_Rabies | i was gonna do a /me summons the spirit of his laptop |
| 15:09.16 | nevcairiel | now we have two of him |
| 15:09.19 | Mr_Rabies | but the laptop connected too fast |
| 15:09.27 | Mr_Rabies | i'm always in here twice |
| 15:09.32 | Mr_Rabies | this is my desktop i never talk on |
| 15:09.42 | Mr_Rabies | but my laptop was out of commission while i took it apart |
| 15:11.51 | Mr_Rabies2 | da0n |
| 15:11.55 | Mr_Rabies2 | eep |
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| 15:12.06 | Mr_Rabies2 | had numlock on and the numbers are covering letters |
| 15:12.35 | Mr_Rabies2 | everything is much much cooler now and no weird noises like the fan is dying |
| 15:12.36 | Mr_Rabies2 | woo |
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| 15:19.01 | Valaron|Work | New monitor on the way. |
| 15:19.08 | ts|skrom | gratz |
| 15:19.37 | rallion | must play more bioshock. |
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| 15:20.45 | Valaron|Work | What console is that for? |
| 15:21.06 | cog|work | PC |
| 15:21.07 | bleeter | man, people already claim to have found 'was around' the new BG AFK system |
| 15:21.07 | rallion | PC and XBox360 |
| 15:21.24 | rallion | but it's an FPS, so PC ftw |
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| 15:33.27 | foxlit | bleeter: missing a y there? |
| 15:34.42 | Industrial | many peoply alreadyy claimy toy havy foundy they newy BGy AFKy systemy? |
| 15:34.46 | Industrial | oh, ways. |
| 15:35.27 | cladhaire | lol |
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| 15:48.25 | bleeter | prolly |
| 15:48.31 | bleeter | parrently they're just gunna AFK in a cave |
| 15:48.38 | bleeter | when they get the debuff, hit a wolf |
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| 15:51.17 | bleeter | then go back to the cave |
| 15:51.21 | foxlit | So? |
| 15:52.45 | bleeter | just saying what the 'talk' is on my battle group on how to get around the new BG debuff foo |
| 15:53.18 | foxlit | Ah :) |
| 15:53.51 | bleeter | what I'm kinda hoping for, is in the first week or two, Blizz publish the AFK report stats, in a fashion that indicates they're keeping track of who's being reported |
| 15:54.57 | bleeter | ie, like the spam reporting feature, instead of making it a lengthy process, the BG system assembles reports to a person/team that then goes over the data, etc., see who's managing to abuse it, etc., and progress on to weeding them out. |
| 15:54.58 | zenzelezz | I think they should track them, then after two weeks send out a batch of GM mail to the marked people stating I Know What You Did Last AV |
| 15:55.58 | bleeter | yeah, I'll be surpised if there ain't some final minor changes between PTR and Live for it |
| 15:56.02 | foxlit | To be honest, if hitting a wolf every so often is the best solution, Blizzard has won |
| 15:56.03 | Kadrahil | I Still Know What You Did Last AV |
| 15:56.32 | foxlit | Especially if "every so often" is every 30 seconds |
| 15:56.35 | bleeter | as it's an anti-faction-griefing system, it'd kinda defeat the initial release if everyone knows the way around it when it goes live |
| 15:57.06 | bleeter | thing I noticed 'bout AV on PTR, is that those who are there actually really wanna play, so it's prolly not a real good test case |
| 15:58.08 | bleeter | most of the games I've played on PTR have been real intense, reminds me of the old AV... ah, memories! like the ... gah! |
| 15:58.58 | ts|skrom | do people actually "play" AV anymore or is it just a rush to the general |
| 15:59.07 | Shirik | Cairenn|afk: ping? |
| 16:00.21 | bleeter | ts|skrom: hard to say, given the number of afkers the dynamic is certainly to get to the end as quick as possible |
| 16:01.07 | ts|skrom | I've not played av but a handful of times since the rushing started (when they changed it and took out like 40% of the npc's) |
| 16:01.10 | bleeter | but that's usually worked out by each side at the time they're at the first mini-boss (galv/balinda) |
| 16:01.36 | bleeter | and it's then that each side tend to fall into a rush to the boss/each node decision, based on the size of O and active D |
| 16:02.43 | bleeter | those who care about maximum honor always try to get each node, but yeah is dependant on AFKer numbers |
| 16:03.13 | ts|skrom | I liked the epic scale of the old av :( |
| 16:03.31 | ts|skrom | 4 hour games never bothered me, yes it was less reputation but damn it was fun |
| 16:03.34 | bleeter | aye, maybe one day they'll bring it back for those who are exalted with the respective faction |
| 16:04.00 | bleeter | that's to say, those who really like the game, rather than in it for the honor |
| 16:04.31 | bleeter | make an single Epic AV BG available each AV weekend, kinda thing |
| 16:05.01 | ts|skrom | it needs something |
| 16:05.42 | ts|skrom | the longer games really allowed those of us who don't Pvp much to shine. Instead of "who is best at rushing" it's "who works best as a team" |
| 16:05.49 | bleeter | EotS don't interest me much, teams too small sized for my liking, love the size of AV |
| 16:06.44 | bleeter | aye, the teamwork's really gone downhill. to be sure, there's still some, but it's in pockets. |
| 16:08.05 | bleeter | but Blizz seem to have a bee in their bonnet about '40member groups r bad mmkay', so prolly won't ever happen :'( |
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| 16:16.05 | foxlit | AV teamwork? |
| 16:16.06 | foxlit | AV zerg! |
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| 16:37.50 | sag_ich_nicht | AV=storm to horde base, kill boss, win. |
| 16:38.13 | sag_ich_nicht | every single time, just have a paladin in each party and you can outrun the guards in the hordbase to the point where they reset back |
| 16:38.15 | sag_ich_nicht | >:O |
| 16:39.42 | sag_ich_nicht | [17:51] <bleeter> then go back to the cave <--so make it only work on PvP combat. fixed. |
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| 16:40.06 | PP|WoW | anyone who can help me with a patch issue? |
| 16:40.21 | sag_ich_nicht | maybe. |
| 16:40.35 | PP|WoW | the patch fails :/ prolly gotta find it manualy somewhere |
| 16:40.41 | bleeter | sag_ich_nicht: aye ;) that's what I meant by 'I expect some change between PTR and Live' ;) |
| 16:40.48 | PP|WoW | tried finding it, but dident find a complete set of patch |
| 16:41.20 | Kaydeethree | hm? you talking about 2.2? they've only distributed a part of it |
| 16:42.08 | PP|WoW | dunno realy, what i need to start playing, so i guess from the first patch til now |
| 16:42.21 | cog|work | PP|WoW: do you have BC? |
| 16:42.25 | PP|WoW | yep |
| 16:42.27 | cog|work | if so, install that first |
| 16:42.31 | PP|WoW | i have |
| 16:42.46 | PP|WoW | created the account and was ready to play |
| 16:42.48 | Kaydeethree | then start wow. you'll get the 2.1.0 complete patch and a few small patches |
| 16:42.58 | PP|WoW | then it tries to patch and it fails :/ |
| 16:43.04 | Kaydeethree | what's the error message? |
| 16:43.05 | zenzelezz | fails how? |
| 16:43.25 | PP|WoW | i cant get fgurther |
| 16:43.27 | PP|WoW | 1 sec |
| 16:43.50 | sag_ich_nicht | i make 2 educated guesses |
| 16:43.55 | sag_ich_nicht | 1.: he's on vista |
| 16:44.10 | sag_ich_nicht | 2.: it's failing because it's in %ProgramFiles% and UAC is being dumb |
| 16:44.16 | Lin | what is an AV? |
| 16:44.20 | Lin | (im lame in wow) |
| 16:44.26 | cog|work | Alterac Valley |
| 16:44.31 | cog|work | it's a battleground |
| 16:44.33 | Kaydeethree | 40-man pvp instance |
| 16:44.40 | Kaydeethree | s/40/80/ |
| 16:44.58 | PP|WoW | patch failed, if the problem persist u may need to reinstall or contact support |
| 16:44.59 | Lin | we have a sed bot! |
| 16:45.11 | bleeter | PP|WoW: are you using Vista? |
| 16:45.20 | PP|WoW | yes |
| 16:45.28 | sag_ich_nicht | FUCK I'M SO GOOD |
| 16:45.34 | Lin | s/.*sed/awk/ |
| 16:45.34 | bleeter | right there's some weird install issues with that... |
| 16:45.42 | bleeter | sag_ich_nicht: aye |
| 16:45.45 | cog|work | Lin: it only does simple substitutions |
| 16:45.54 | Lin | cog|work: just testing ;-) |
| 16:46.04 | Lin | s/testing/bothering/ |
| 16:46.16 | bleeter | PP|WoW: I dont use Vista, so dunno the cure, but others here can prolly point you in the right direction. Its to do with the Universal Access Controller being.. stupid |
| 16:46.27 | sag_ich_nicht | i'll tell you the cure |
| 16:46.30 | cog|work | PP|WoW: move your WoW folder out of Program Files |
| 16:46.37 | cog|work | sag_ich_nicht: ZING! |
| 16:46.41 | sag_ich_nicht | damn you cogweel! |
| 16:46.53 | bleeter | oh, so like install it just as C:\World of Warcraft ? |
| 16:46.56 | sag_ich_nicht | i'Ll get you one day! |
| 16:47.00 | sag_ich_nicht | *i'll |
| 16:47.02 | cog|work | bleeter: yep |
| 16:47.04 | sag_ich_nicht | bleeter yeha pretty much |
| 16:47.09 | sag_ich_nicht | *yeah |
| 16:47.13 | sag_ich_nicht | fuck i'm typoing |
| 16:47.17 | sag_ich_nicht | why am i typoing |
| 16:47.18 | bleeter | wow, that's even more stupid than UAC's behaviour |
| 16:47.28 | sag_ich_nicht | bleeter no |
| 16:47.35 | sag_ich_nicht | actually it's not UACs fault PER SE |
| 16:47.47 | bleeter | it's Vista's ;) |
| 16:47.50 | sag_ich_nicht | nope |
| 16:47.55 | PP|WoW | okay its vista |
| 16:48.01 | PP|WoW | but what do i do to fix it |
| 16:48.06 | PP|WoW | i cant find a complete patch anywhere |
| 16:48.06 | cog|work | we just told you |
| 16:48.15 | cog|work | it's not a problem with finding a patch |
| 16:48.17 | bleeter | PP|WoW: install it in C:\World of Warcraft |
| 16:48.21 | cog|work | it's that vista won't let the patcher patch |
| 16:48.23 | cog|work | bleeter: no |
| 16:48.27 | cog|work | it's already installed |
| 16:48.34 | cog|work | just move the folder from Program Files to C:\ |
| 16:48.40 | bleeter | ok |
| 16:48.44 | bleeter | PP|WoW: what cog|work said |
| 16:48.52 | sag_ich_nicht | it's the WoW installers fault because Blizzard is not acting according to microsoft installer recommendations |
| 16:48.54 | PP|WoW | so i can just move the folder |
| 16:48.55 | PP|WoW | il try |
| 16:48.56 | cog|work | don't want to make him go through the whole install again :P |
| 16:49.06 | sag_ich_nicht | or, to use a different phrasing: blizzard needs to lern2msi |
| 16:49.21 | cog|work | PP|WoW: yes, though you'll probably have to update your shortcuts |
| 16:49.59 | cog|work | s/probably/might/ |
| 16:50.02 | [dRaCo] | update, move back |
| 16:50.02 | bleeter | sag_ich_nicht: well, to be truthful, if you look at the machine specs for WoW/BC, it don't mention Vista at all... so, whether it's the Blizz installer's fault or people using what would appear to be an unsupported (yet highly tolerated) system, is anyone's guess ;) |
| 16:50.07 | cog|work | not sure how smart vista is about that sort of thing |
| 16:50.22 | cog|work | [dRaCo]: why move back? this problem will only keep happening :P |
| 16:50.39 | Kaydeethree | lmao at "unsupported (yet highly tolerated)" |
| 16:50.54 | bleeter | Kaydeethree: aye ... it's ironic ain't it ;) |
| 16:50.54 | [dRaCo] | on principle |
| 16:50.55 | sag_ich_nicht | not only will it keep on happening, it will prevent addons from working as well |
| 16:51.20 | sag_ich_nicht | bleeter: no, you shouldn't be using anything besides .msi to install software for microsoft windows |
| 16:51.34 | Kaydeethree | whuh? /points at nullsoft's installer |
| 16:51.34 | PP|WoW | ahhh |
| 16:51.39 | PP|WoW | ty m8 |
| 16:51.40 | PP|WoW | it worked |
| 16:51.42 | bleeter | well the entire idea of having to have an installer is crazy... just ask any Mac user |
| 16:51.51 | PP|WoW | now i just have to wait a few years for the patches to download |
| 16:51.54 | cog|work | bleeter: think of it as using for k, v in t do ... end in lua 5.0. Just because it works doesn't mean you're supposed to do it. |
| 16:52.14 | sag_ich_nicht | Kaydeethree: what cogwheel just said. |
| 16:52.35 | sag_ich_nicht | installing software as system administrator without an .msi package is a fucking PITA |
| 16:52.44 | sag_ich_nicht | *a |
| 16:53.02 | cog|work | If every software company followed XP's best practices, then there wouldn't be nearly as many problems with Vista |
| 16:53.14 | Shirik | I made half of one once |
| 16:53.14 | sag_ich_nicht | indeed. |
| 16:53.38 | bleeter | Kaydeethree: oh, for the record, looks like we've managed to nail one particular 'bug' in Wine's audio subsystem, but is pretty much totally unrelated to the 2.2 problem - just had to jump over that particular hurdle before moving on to the tougher stuff |
| 16:53.57 | Kaydeethree | the oss emulation fallback? |
| 16:54.04 | bleeter | aye |
| 16:54.32 | Shirik | p.s. I use nullsoft because it's easy :P |
| 16:54.44 | sag_ich_nicht | Shirik either make your software use file stored settings and nothing else aswell as change nothing about the system configuration, or use .msi. otherwise, get out of my face, because i will punch you for the pain you inflict on me, the sysadmin, when i have to roll it out company wide. |
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| 16:55.11 | bleeter | maarten's going through all the audio opening/closing stuff trying to clean it up, that was one area that was .. well, tricky, but easy to fix if you get my meaning |
| 16:55.14 | Shirik | sag_ich_nicht: I do it just for you |
| 16:55.15 | [dRaCo] | lol. |
| 16:55.34 | Shirik | but fyi, it does use file-stored settings :) |
| 16:55.41 | sag_ich_nicht | and even then, you are making it a pain for me, because i have to make an expect to the security configuration so the software can write back to the configuration file |
| 16:55.59 | Shirik | and the only time the configuration changes is if you're changing platforms |
| 16:56.14 | sag_ich_nicht | because otherwise, configuration files are stored in %ApplicationData% |
| 16:56.15 | Kaydeethree | config files should be written in %APPDATA% anyway, never in the folder containing the program itself |
| 16:56.26 | sag_ich_nicht | Kaydeethree which is what i just said |
| 16:56.31 | Kaydeethree | bah, lag |
| 16:56.32 | bleeter | erm s/zt/zy/ |
| 16:56.49 | sag_ich_nicht | so Shirik, do you store it in %APPDATA%? |
| 16:57.01 | [dRaCo] | configs belong next to the programs executable :รพ |
| 16:57.08 | Shirik | (1) I'm not stupid |
| 16:57.17 | Shirik | (2) [dRaCo], wtf is a colon A tilde 3/4 ? |
| 16:57.25 | cog|work | TBQH, one of the things I love about WoW is how self-contained it is. I really like being able to just copy the whole folder verbatim and everything is intact |
| 16:57.25 | Shirik | and why is it executable |
| 16:57.29 | bleeter | Shirik: install moar phonts! |
| 16:57.30 | sag_ich_nicht | no, they don't, in a multiuser multicomputer environment [dRaCo]. |
| 16:57.39 | bleeter | cog|work: aye, that's very nice of them |
| 16:57.49 | [dRaCo] | Shirik: something similiar to p, but cooler :) |
| 16:57.55 | [dRaCo] | utf-8 stuff |
| 16:57.56 | cog|work | I wish there were some "best practices" way of doing that |
| 16:58.10 | sag_ich_nicht | cog|work for what? |
| 16:58.31 | cog|work | for WoW's self-containedness |
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| 16:59.09 | [dRaCo] | sag_ich_nicht: well... maybe. but it's way more comfortable for normal users. |
| 16:59.21 | cog|work | I actually get really annoyed with how many different locations a program can store its data... %APPDATA%, the registry, the documents folder, etc., etc. |
| 16:59.22 | Cidan | AND WHAT IS "NORMAL", HMMMMMM? |
| 16:59.23 | Shirik | sag_ich_nicht: Trust me, there's nothing that will make you mad :) |
| 16:59.36 | Shirik | Cidan: Everything that is not you |
| 16:59.40 | Cidan | :( |
| 16:59.41 | [dRaCo] | good point |
| 16:59.44 | Cidan | That's mean. |
| 16:59.48 | Shirik | <3 |
| 17:00.05 | sag_ich_nicht | [18:59] <cog|work> I actually get really annoyed with how many different locations a program can store its data... %APPDATA%, the registry, the documents folder, etc., etc. <--programs are not supposed to store their changing data anywhere but in %APPDATA%. |
| 17:00.24 | Shirik | registry is for stuff like |
| 17:00.26 | Shirik | where it was installed |
| 17:00.39 | Shirik | so the app can access this info |
| 17:00.40 | bleeter | sag_ich_nicht: note, cog said what the CAN do, not what they SHOULD |
| 17:00.54 | [dRaCo] | that'd be true if windows wasn't such a bitch for changing path variables |
| 17:00.59 | sag_ich_nicht | heh, not like it can store it anywhere else if i lock down the system bleeter. |
| 17:01.35 | bleeter | the key bit there being 'if you lock down the system', you've gotta take steps for it to behave in a sane manner, it don't do it out of the box |
| 17:02.13 | sag_ich_nicht | bleeter, i DO lock down user accounts, they can't install software, and they can't damn write to %ProgramFiles%, so neither can their programs. |
| 17:02.36 | sag_ich_nicht | if they need an application updated, they ASK me, because otherwise they could comprimise their own as well as the company security. |
| 17:02.38 | Shirik | imho you would just switch to a unix-based system and be done with i |
| 17:02.43 | sag_ich_nicht | *compromise |
| 17:02.47 | Shirik | would make everything so much easier |
| 17:02.54 | Cidan | uh |
| 17:02.55 | bleeter | bully for you, now go sell your procedure as a default setup |
| 17:03.06 | bleeter | s/\ a\ /\ the\ / |
| 17:03.07 | sag_ich_nicht | Shirik except no, because OpenLDAP would drive me mad. |
| 17:03.08 | Cidan | What does that have to do with how software is authored? |
| 17:03.13 | Shirik | nothing |
| 17:03.18 | Shirik | it avoids the problem altogether :D |
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| 17:03.21 | Cidan | I can store data in /boot if I felt like it |
| 17:03.26 | Shirik | but see |
| 17:03.32 | Shirik | you can configure your system to allow that without pain :) |
| 17:03.46 | Cidan | also |
| 17:03.49 | Shirik | not that it's a good thing |
| 17:03.50 | sag_ich_nicht | Shirik, no, it makes me go mad, because i'd have to use OpenLDAP, and OpenLDAP is a fucking piece of shit. |
| 17:03.52 | Cidan | sag_ich_nicht, what's wrong with openLDAP? |
| 17:03.57 | Cidan | How so? |
| 17:03.59 | Cidan | I love it. |
| 17:04.03 | Shirik | Apparently it's a fucking piece of shit, Cidan :) |
| 17:04.04 | Cidan | It works perfect. |
| 17:04.09 | bleeter | it's not as good as exchange! |
| 17:04.12 | Shirik | rofl |
| 17:04.13 | Cidan | I use it for all my logins |
| 17:04.15 | Cidan | lol |
| 17:04.18 | Cidan | ldap != exchange |
| 17:04.22 | Shirik | bleeter, I love you |
| 17:04.23 | Cidan | it's not even meant to be close to it |
| 17:04.24 | Cidan | christ. |
| 17:04.26 | bleeter | sssh |
| 17:04.30 | Cidan | ssh is nice. |
| 17:04.31 | sag_ich_nicht | in the time you take to configure OpenLDAP, i already have configured 3 domains and interlinked them :O |
| 17:04.32 | Cidan | ;P |
| 17:04.37 | bleeter | maybe if we don't point that out to much, sag_ich_nicht won't notice ;) |
| 17:04.39 | Cidan | sag_ich_nicht, er, no? |
| 17:04.44 | sag_ich_nicht | er, yes :O |
| 17:04.45 | Cidan | sag_ich_nicht, you're just a newb, :P |
| 17:04.50 | Lin | sag_ich_nicht: do you have something better? |
| 17:05.10 | sag_ich_nicht | Lin: yeah, ever heard of active directory? :P |
| 17:05.16 | Cidan | takes just as long |
| 17:05.30 | Cidan | it takes me a good 5 minutes for openldap, if even. |
| 17:05.35 | Lin | sag_ich_nicht: yeah.. why msad is better than openldap? |
| 17:05.48 | Kaydeethree | 'cause he's used to it |
| 17:05.54 | bleeter | Kaydeethree++ |
| 17:06.11 | sag_ich_nicht | no, because i tried both and found active directory to be better. i'm not a fan of microsoft, but their LDAP is really good. |
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| 17:06.28 | Shirik | you haven't answered the question |
| 17:06.29 | Shirik | why... |
| 17:06.33 | Lin | sag_ich_nicht: he is good because he is good? |
| 17:06.34 | Shirik | you're going around it |
| 17:06.40 | Lin | sag_ich_nicht: that is it? |
| 17:06.40 | Cidan | lol |
| 17:06.43 | Cidan | Lin: <3 |
| 17:07.00 | bleeter | tbh, they're both pretty sucky :P |
| 17:07.02 | Shirik | !c us drenden kimina |
| 17:07.07 | Shirik | Thrae: Ping |
| 17:07.08 | ThraeBot | Shirik: Kimina, Level 70 Blood Elf Priest (23/38/0). 6581 HP; 8130 Mana; 411 mana regen; 113 mp5; 36 spell crit; 255 +spell dmg; 855 +heal; 5.74% dodge; +33 all resists (+5 all);[[ TBR: 739 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/2fx6zd ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/2pkb3p ]] |
| 17:07.09 | art3mis | i really wish there was a compatible exchange for nix |
| 17:07.13 | Shirik | nm Thrae <3 |
| 17:07.24 | art3mis | and no imap is not a compatible xchange clone |
| 17:07.33 | Lin | sag_ich_nicht: you can tell. MSAD can easy support microsoft applications. right. and easily store user/computer data. |
| 17:07.34 | bleeter | thought I'd just humour folks |
| 17:07.51 | Thrae | Damn Blizzard changed the URL on the armory to wowarmory.com |
| 17:07.54 | Lin | sag_ich_nicht: but did you have tried to make AD talk to something not M$? |
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| 17:08.12 | Cidan | 'tis impossible, I dare say! |
| 17:08.37 | Lin | you haven't any tools to do it.. but if you try do you know what M$ will tell you? |
| 17:08.50 | sag_ich_nicht | except |
| 17:08.51 | Lin | you server is no more under support, no matter if you pay for it or not |
| 17:08.52 | sag_ich_nicht | Red Hat Directory Server. |
| 17:08.52 | art3mis | nah some of the latest network stuff from linux to "pretend we're a windows machine" is fairly decent |
| 17:08.57 | sag_ich_nicht | (altho i hate red hat) |
| 17:09.04 | Cidan | not a fan of red hat |
| 17:09.19 | art3mis | can log into workgroups and domains, samaba does proper shares |
| 17:09.21 | bleeter | yeah, hate red hat. how dare they be the biggest corporate contributor to linux. shame on them. |
| 17:09.24 | art3mis | yadday yadda yaddda |
| 17:09.33 | Cidan | I mean the distro |
| 17:09.36 | bleeter | they should burn in hell for it |
| 17:09.37 | Cidan | just don't like the layout |
| 17:09.40 | Lin | that is. you can use MSAD just with MS products, dont try to use it as a REAL directory |
| 17:09.44 | sag_ich_nicht | what Cidan said. |
| 17:10.09 | art3mis | its funny how the redhat distro sucks and the fedora one is tolerable ;) |
| 17:10.11 | bleeter | oh yeah, the layout... ergh, pretty sad |
| 17:10.11 | sag_ich_nicht | Lin: if i want a REAL directory, i'll use Novell eDirectory :P |
| 17:10.13 | Lin | openldap has problems. The packet is big, redundant and malformed. |
| 17:10.20 | Cidan | not a fan of fedora too, :P |
| 17:10.27 | bleeter | every OS sucks |
| 17:10.34 | Cidan | debian doesn't :P |
| 17:10.37 | Lin | sag_ich_nicht: I can use openldap |
| 17:10.39 | art3mis | freebsd doesnt |
| 17:10.41 | art3mis | ;) |
| 17:10.42 | Cidan | yes it does |
| 17:10.46 | Cidan | at least in recent years |
| 17:10.46 | art3mis | nuh uh! |
| 17:10.46 | Lin | debian RLZ! |
| 17:10.51 | sag_ich_nicht | HAIL DEBIAN |
| 17:10.52 | sag_ich_nicht | \o |
| 17:10.55 | Cidan | freebsd has been going nuts. |
| 17:11.09 | art3mis | they're just following the trend |
| 17:11.19 | art3mis | they started off good and stable and are now going crazy |
| 17:11.24 | bleeter | debian doesn't suck at all, which is why the founder quit the project. |
| 17:11.26 | Shirik | hold up ok |
| 17:11.30 | Lin | i dont like BSD way . |
| 17:11.35 | Shirik | I know I missed a bunch when I turned my head away for a few minutes |
| 17:11.36 | art3mis | as opposed to all linux distros going crazy and then stabalizing |
| 17:11.46 | Shirik | but I don't understand how sag_ich_nicht could go from worshiping Microsoft to "HAIL DEBIAN" |
| 17:11.51 | Cidan | lol |
| 17:11.53 | bleeter | Shirik: there's this thing called scrollback, l2useit |
| 17:11.54 | Cidan | just a single product |
| 17:12.10 | Shirik | bleeter: I disabled all my scrollbars |
| 17:12.11 | sag_ich_nicht | [19:11] <Shirik> but I don't understand how sag_ich_nicht could go from worshiping Microsoft to "HAIL DEBIAN" <--there is this thing called using the right tool for the right job. |
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| 17:12.12 | Shirik | just for you |
| 17:12.26 | Cidan | even I don't have blind devotion to just one solution |
| 17:12.40 | Lin | MSAD is a right tool to manage M$ DOmains |
| 17:12.41 | bleeter | Shirik: disabled scrollbars, bugger all decent font support... soon you won't have a computer at all! |
| 17:12.45 | Cidan | putting an ldap server in the middle of a windows-only workplace (by rule) would just be stupid. |
| 17:12.57 | Cidan | openldap that is |
| 17:12.57 | Shirik | bleeter: I can do that too if you want |
| 17:12.58 | sag_ich_nicht | Cidan WHAT |
| 17:13.00 | Shirik | yes? |
| 17:13.01 | sag_ich_nicht | okay |
| 17:13.08 | sag_ich_nicht | because active directory is ldap :P |
| 17:13.12 | Cidan | yeah, sorry |
| 17:13.14 | bleeter | Shirik: only on tuesdays when there's a new moon ;) |
| 17:13.51 | art3mis | bleeter there's a new moon everyday at your house, what with the whole "i will NEVER wear pants at home" rule you've got |
| 17:14.01 | bleeter | anyways, back to the original topic.. installers suck. |
| 17:14.03 | Thrae | Debian is actually one of those fairly stable Linux distros, as long as you use Debian stable. The Debian package team is horribly strict when it comes to allowing packages into stable or even testing. That's one of the main reasons Ubuntu was branched off from Debian -- a less-strict package authorization system. |
| 17:14.19 | sag_ich_nicht | i use active directory/windows for the users, some DNS stuff, exchange for internal email, but the WAN backend is linux/BSD |
| 17:14.37 | sag_ich_nicht | well, or USED TO USE, because now i have a different job D: |
| 17:14.41 | sag_ich_nicht | D: |
| 17:15.22 | sag_ich_nicht | debians strictness makes it good, ubuntu is just a bunch of crybabies that like eyecandy |
| 17:16.02 | Cidan | I use bind9 for all my DNS |
| 17:16.13 | Cidan | also, Ubuntu is good for a desktop. |
| 17:16.19 | Cidan | It works out of the box for almost everyone |
| 17:16.26 | Cidan | and gets better every release. |
| 17:16.45 | sag_ich_nicht | Cidan lol bind(not that i don't use it, but it's like, so many security holes D: D: D: ) |
| 17:16.51 | Cidan | uh |
| 17:16.54 | Cidan | like 4 years ago |
| 17:16.58 | sag_ich_nicht | yeah |
| 17:16.58 | bleeter | oh... can't go to bed!!!! |
| 17:16.59 | Cidan | bind8 and before |
| 17:17.02 | sag_ich_nicht | but i still hae it stuck in my head |
| 17:17.03 | sag_ich_nicht | D: |
| 17:17.05 | sag_ich_nicht | *have |
| 17:17.10 | bleeter | \o/ |
| 17:17.13 | Cidan | So do most people who don't keep up with the times |
| 17:17.15 | Cidan | :D |
| 17:17.24 | bleeter | QUICKER THAN A RAY OF LI-AY-AY-AY-T!!! |
| 17:17.36 | art3mis | bind8 aka remote shell |
| 17:17.38 | bleeter | Cairenn: I wanna take you for granted |
| 17:17.55 | bleeter | do do do do do di di do do do do |
| 17:17.58 | Cairenn | bleeter: oO |
| 17:17.58 | bleeter | \o/ |
| 17:18.50 | bleeter | YOU CANT STAY HERE!!! |
| 17:18.59 | Cidan | old song is ollldddd |
| 17:19.04 | Lin | somone can gimme 5000g? |
| 17:19.06 | sag_ich_nicht | what i don't like about ubuntu is that it's for... well... uneducated computer users D: |
| 17:19.09 | Cidan | Lin, lol |
| 17:19.13 | Lin | ;-) |
| 17:19.14 | bleeter | HEY! |
| 17:19.22 | bleeter | gnight all |
| 17:19.23 | Cidan | sag_ich_nicht, Oh yeah, windows does GREAT with that one. |
| 17:19.26 | Cidan | bleeter, nini |
| 17:19.32 | sag_ich_nicht | Cidan: i don't like that about windows, either. |
| 17:19.34 | Cairenn | sweet dreams bleeter |
| 17:19.45 | sag_ich_nicht | night bleeter |
| 17:19.50 | Cidan | sag_ich_nicht, You must live in a very lonely world, :x |
| 17:19.52 | Lin | sag_ich_nicht: what about windows server objective? network administration by wizards? |
| 17:20.07 | art3mis | don't knock wizards |
| 17:20.12 | art3mis | they're level 18 ya know |
| 17:20.20 | Cidan | server administration by wizards is the bane of the internet |
| 17:20.25 | Cidan | anyone who does simply that should be shot. |
| 17:20.33 | Cidan | Windows or *nix |
| 17:20.35 | Lin | windows way of life. |
| 17:20.38 | sag_ich_nicht | Lin: what. if you use the windows server 2003 wizards, you are a crazy man. |
| 17:20.50 | sag_ich_nicht | CRAZY i tell you |
| 17:20.58 | Lin | sag_ich_nicht: but if microsoft put it there is because: ITS GOOD FOR YOU! |
| 17:21.22 | art3mis | remember when they thought the same thing about cocaine? |
| 17:21.29 | Cidan | lol |
| 17:21.34 | Cidan | wait |
| 17:21.36 | sag_ich_nicht | no, it's because their UI department didn't talk to the other departments again, because they don't practive their own best practive in their internal network, which is a shame |
| 17:21.40 | Cidan | you mean cocaine isn't good for you? |
| 17:21.59 | art3mis | depends what its cut with ;P |
| 17:22.06 | Lin | sag_ich_nicht: good explanations, are you a MS employee? |
| 17:22.14 | Cidan | lol |
| 17:22.21 | sag_ich_nicht | Lin: no, but i know multiple ex-MS employees |
| 17:22.32 | art3mis | cut cocaine with vitamin c tablets and yer all good ;P |
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| 17:22.42 | Lin | sag_ich_nicht: why they are fired? because they talk with each other? |
| 17:22.45 | Cidan | a friend of mine works on the 2008 kernel |
| 17:22.48 | sag_ich_nicht | the propagation time in the MS internal network is so high that it takes literally 3 months for full propagation |
| 17:23.01 | Lin | how can a UI developer can design a exchange server configuration tool? |
| 17:23.29 | art3mis | cidan: did you tell him about the -dontsuck compile flag? |
| 17:23.36 | Lin | Cidan: I have drink a lot with marcelo tossati. 2.4 llinux kernel developer ;-) |
| 17:23.47 | Cidan | lol |
| 17:23.52 | Lin | 2.4 was the worse kernel in all linux history |
| 17:23.57 | Lin | Cidan: its true |
| 17:24.01 | Cidan | I should move to Brazil. :x |
| 17:24.06 | art3mis | worse than 1.2.13 ? |
| 17:24.20 | Lin | art3mis: 2.4 become stable after 2.4.20 |
| 17:24.24 | Lin | IMHO |
| 17:24.26 | art3mis | and its multiple 3 line code root exploits? |
| 17:24.40 | Lin | 1.2.13 its just a kid kernel |
| 17:24.49 | Lin | 2.4 tryed to be a serious one. |
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| 17:24.53 | sag_ich_nicht | Lin: i think it's more of a UI designer says "this would be awesome", his boss says "hell yeah", gives a directive to the coders that create the tool, these instructions take ~3 months to get to the team, they TRY to say that's BS, but it takes another 3 months to propagate back properly, and by that time they have to be done already, so they are forced to implement it :P |
| 17:25.03 | Lin | 1.2.. these are good times.. |
| 17:25.04 | sag_ich_nicht | but that's just guesswork here, and we shouldn't do that |
| 17:25.07 | sag_ich_nicht | because it's BS anywa< |
| 17:25.09 | sag_ich_nicht | *anyway |
| 17:25.10 | sag_ich_nicht | D: |
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| 17:25.41 | Lin | when ui designers tell the system roadmap? |
| 17:25.50 | Lin | if so that is the reason to windows doens't work. |
| 17:25.59 | Lin | its made by unstable people |
| 17:26.08 | sag_ich_nicht | Lin: go google up a bit on microsoft ex-employee information |
| 17:26.16 | sag_ich_nicht | it's horrifying, some of the time |
| 17:26.46 | Lin | but windows admins love to say. I can do that with just 5 clicks |
| 17:26.49 | sag_ich_nicht | on the other hand, sometimes you think "mhm, cool company", and then you read the next story and it's all HUARGH EYE STAB IDIOTISM D: |
| 17:26.53 | Lin | nnnf |
| 17:27.00 | sag_ich_nicht | ~nnnf |
| 17:27.08 | sag_ich_nicht | ... |
| 17:27.08 | Lin | next next next next finish |
| 17:27.12 | sag_ich_nicht | lol |
| 17:27.40 | sag_ich_nicht | heh, i prefer to do most stuff using the console, e.g. batch creating new users |
| 17:27.44 | sag_ich_nicht | it'd be a pita otherwise |
| 17:27.56 | Lin | I saw a windows admin creating 2000 users using the gui |
| 17:27.59 | Lin | I SWEAR!!! |
| 17:28.01 | sag_ich_nicht | ... |
| 17:28.06 | sag_ich_nicht | did you punch him? |
| 17:28.08 | Lin | no |
| 17:28.10 | sag_ich_nicht | please tell me you punched him. |
| 17:28.12 | Lin | I laugh |
| 17:28.12 | sag_ich_nicht | god |
| 17:28.15 | Gryphen | ye3s? |
| 17:28.15 | sag_ich_nicht | you should have punched him. |
| 17:28.22 | sag_ich_nicht | Gryphen shut up. |
| 17:28.28 | Lin | when he was near 1500. I told him |
| 17:28.29 | Lin | wait.. |
| 17:28.34 | Lin | and I build a .bat file |
| 17:28.48 | sag_ich_nicht | Lin please tell me this man does not have a MSCA |
| 17:29.04 | Lin | he was amazed.. so amazed. that he didn't asked me why I havent told him before. |
| 17:29.11 | Lin | yes.. he had. |
| 17:29.12 | sag_ich_nicht | Lin please tell me this man does not have a MSCA. |
| 17:29.14 | sag_ich_nicht | ... |
| 17:29.16 | Lin | has. |
| 17:29.45 | Lin | that is the kind of windows administrators build on MS official training. |
| 17:29.55 | sag_ich_nicht | i had official MS training. |
| 17:29.58 | Lin | just slideshow viewers. |
| 17:30.14 | sag_ich_nicht | we had slideshows, but these covered batchfiles |
| 17:30.21 | sag_ich_nicht | must have been before ~2005 or something |
| 17:30.25 | sag_ich_nicht | >.> |
| 17:30.48 | sag_ich_nicht | brb |
| 17:30.50 | Lin | it was in windows 2000. |
| 17:31.00 | Lin | near '01 or '02 |
| 17:31.12 | Cairenn | Lin: not true |
| 17:31.24 | Lin | Cairenn: what? |
| 17:31.30 | Cairenn | depends on which level of MS training they had |
| 17:31.37 | Lin | Cairenn: I dunno which lvl |
| 17:32.00 | Lin | Cairenn: but he doesnt knew about the add user command from MSAD |
| 17:32.23 | Lin | I knew that there is. then I googled it for it.. and made a batch for him |
| 17:32.36 | *** join/#wowi-lounge Funkeh` (n=funkydud@host217-44-96-5.range217-44.btcentralplus.com) |
| 17:32.36 | Lin | im not ms admin, neither I want to be one. |
| 17:32.56 | Lin | My boss is also a stupid person |
| 17:32.57 | Shirik | p.s. hi Cairenn :) |
| 17:32.57 | sag_ich_nicht | Cairenn he had an MSCA. |
| 17:33.02 | sag_ich_nicht | *a |
| 17:33.05 | sag_ich_nicht | also hi Cairenn |
| 17:33.10 | Cairenn | morning guys :) |
| 17:33.15 | zenzelezz | ahoy |
| 17:33.18 | Cidan | Werd. |
| 17:33.23 | Lin | I install 150 computers with FAI. and she tells to test every one. |
| 17:33.31 | Lin | searching for configuration problems |
| 17:33.38 | sag_ich_nicht | server 2003/active directory/win xp can do quite a few amazing things |
| 17:33.40 | sag_ich_nicht | FAI=? |
| 17:33.44 | Lin | OMG!! I have user automatic instalation. |
| 17:33.45 | sag_ich_nicht | (probably only know the german name) |
| 17:33.57 | sag_ich_nicht | ~fai |
| 17:33.57 | purl | it has been said that fai is Fully Automatic Installation for debian at http://www.informatik.uni-koeln.de/fai/ |
| 17:34.03 | sag_ich_nicht | ah |
| 17:34.09 | sag_ich_nicht | lol |
| 17:34.34 | Lin | but i dont test. She ask for someone of user help desk to do it |
| 17:34.48 | Lin | I just laugh.. and say. GLuck pal! |
| 17:35.11 | Lin | we had stupid people in world. |
| 17:35.20 | Lin | s/had/have/ |
| 17:35.40 | Lin | thank you purl |
| 17:36.14 | *** join/#wowi-lounge Drool (n=drool@87-194-188-170.bethere.co.uk) |
| 17:36.21 | Lin | sag_ich_nicht: server 2003/active directory/win xp cando amazing things, that I do since 1980 |
| 17:36.21 | Cairenn | sorry, just some of the horror stories make me cringe |
| 17:36.26 | sag_ich_nicht | i'd just go buy 150 computers that are network bootable, create a network install, make a rollout config and computer profile, smack it into an AU, press start and call it a day. system with defect hardware will lookup during the first boot only benchmark bootscript, so i just have to go and check for bluescreens once, and be done :O |
| 17:36.28 | Cairenn | my hubby is an MCT |
| 17:36.36 | Cidan | That's it boys |
| 17:36.39 | Cidan | She's taken |
| 17:36.41 | Cidan | No more flowers. |
| 17:36.56 | sag_ich_nicht | [19:36] <Lin> sag_ich_nicht: server 2003/active directory/win xp cando amazing things, that I do since 1980 <--heh |
| 17:37.08 | Shirik | Cidan: You're not going to let that stop you |
| 17:37.09 | Shirik | are you? |
| 17:37.14 | sag_ich_nicht | i'm not saying it's the best solution Lin, stop being so full of anger :O |
| 17:37.21 | Cidan | Well, I have respect for fellow nerds. |
| 17:37.27 | Cidan | Now if he like, played in the NFL or something |
| 17:37.28 | Lin | sag_ich_nicht: my heart is full of love!!! |
| 17:37.34 | Cidan | I'd be all over her. |
| 17:37.36 | Lin | sag_ich_nicht: can you gimme 5000g? |
| 17:37.47 | Shirik | lol |
| 17:37.53 | Lin | im serious |
| 17:37.53 | Cairenn | the fact that I'm married isn't exactly news Cidan |
| 17:37.57 | Cidan | I know |
| 17:37.59 | Lin | :-( |
| 17:38.01 | Cidan | I'm just joking. :P |
| 17:38.17 | Lin | im married too! |
| 17:38.25 | sag_ich_nicht | ...to your hand? >:O |
| 17:38.27 | Cidan | Lin: Are you a hot redhead? |
| 17:38.30 | Lin | Cairenn: we have the same kind of problem. |
| 17:38.31 | Cidan | Lin I think not. |
| 17:38.40 | Lin | Cidan: no.. |
| 17:38.53 | Lin | Cidan: do you mean, red hair? |
| 17:39.01 | Cidan | yes. |
| 17:39.01 | Cidan | :P |
| 17:39.12 | Lin | Cidan: no. I have brown to black hair. |
| 17:39.18 | Cidan | Then you do not matter. |
| 17:39.19 | Cidan | :P |
| 17:39.38 | Lin | Cidan: ;-) |
| 17:39.52 | sag_ich_nicht | [19:37] <Lin> sag_ich_nicht: can you gimme 5000g? <--/invite *misdirection macro* *declares war to cenarion circle* *autoshot bywalking cenarion NPC* /pdisband |
| 17:39.53 | Shirik | damn |
| 17:39.56 | Lin | sag_ich_nicht: my hand is my lover. |
| 17:39.59 | Kaydeethree | heh, funny |
| 17:40.09 | Kaydeethree | gmail tagged the conspiracy email as spam |
| 17:40.19 | Cide | it's a conspiracy |
| 17:40.35 | Cidan | lol |
| 17:40.57 | Shirik | dun dun dun |
| 17:41.03 | Shirik | wait hold up |
| 17:41.11 | Shirik | Kaydeethree: you mean our site activation one? |
| 17:41.14 | Kaydeethree | ya |
| 17:41.33 | sag_ich_nicht | just untag it |
| 17:41.38 | Kaydeethree | I did |
| 17:41.40 | Mr_Rabies2 | bonk |
| 17:41.41 | Shirik | yeah but that means EVERYONE is going to get it like that |
| 17:41.43 | Shirik | which is annoying |
| 17:41.45 | sag_ich_nicht | no, Shirik |
| 17:41.52 | sag_ich_nicht | a few untags later the mailfilter will have learned his lession and not tag it as spam anymore |
| 17:42.04 | sag_ich_nicht | gmail is pretty fucking adaptive with it's spamfilter :O |
| 17:42.06 | Cairenn | you know, there's a much easier solution |
| 17:42.13 | Shirik | not name it conspiracy? |
| 17:42.30 | Cidan | Shirik, gmails spam filter is adaptive to each person |
| 17:42.32 | Cairenn | just host it on one of the major sites :p |
| 17:42.36 | Cidan | it could just be Kaydeethree |
| 17:42.45 | Cidan | Cairenn, lulz. |
| 17:42.49 | Mr_Rabies2 | argh |
| 17:42.51 | Cairenn | instead of making your own site for it :p |
| 17:42.54 | Mr_Rabies2 | consortium rep is such a pain |
| 17:43.01 | sag_ich_nicht | Cairenn you jsut want more ad renenue for wowi :P |
| 17:43.05 | sag_ich_nicht | *revenue |
| 17:43.08 | Kaydeethree | doubt it. that went to my account signup address, as far as I know, that was the first message gmail tagged as spam for that account |
| 17:43.15 | Cairenn | *what* ad revenue? :p |
| 17:43.20 | Cidan | oh, :( |
| 17:43.39 | Shirik | Cairenn: fear not, WoWI will have it |
| 17:43.41 | Shirik | when it's ready |
| 17:43.51 | Shirik | It had RDX.Cid too :) |
| 17:43.51 | sag_ich_nicht | Cairenn, i dunno, adblock blocks any and all ads, i don't know if it has ads :P |
| 17:44.01 | Cairenn | sag_ich_nicht: precisely |
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| 17:44.06 | Shirik | sag_ich_nicht: There are people saying that is illegal, by the way |
| 17:44.12 | Shirik | not that I agree with them, just throwing that out there |
| 17:44.13 | Kaydeethree | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:44.19 | Shirik | I find it amusing |
| 17:44.29 | sag_ich_nicht | Shirik frankly said, i don't give a damn. |
| 17:44.39 | Shirik | sag_ich_nicht: I think they're nuts |
| 17:44.43 | Shirik | to be perfectly honest |
| 17:44.43 | Kaydeethree | zomg, you're doing something I don't like! j00're violating the dmca |
| 17:44.50 | Shirik | ~wiki dmc |
| 17:44.53 | Shirik | ~wiki dmca |
| 17:45.00 | sag_ich_nicht | ~dmca |
| 17:45.01 | purl | it has been said that dmca is The Digital Millennium Copyright Act see http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/z?c105:H.R.2281.ENR: or http://ars.userfriendly.org/cartoons/?id=20020428 |
| 17:45.47 | sag_ich_nicht | well |
| 17:45.56 | Kaydeethree | lmao at the userfriendly comic... haven't seen that in a while |
| 17:46.00 | sag_ich_nicht | let my tell you my opinion about the DMCA, and most of that is related to it: |
| 17:46.14 | *** join/#wowi-lounge Xuerian (n=core@wireless-216-222-130-182.citizip.com) |
| 17:46.15 | Shirik | ... |
| 17:46.18 | Shirik | black on red |
| 17:46.19 | Shirik | not fun |
| 17:46.21 | Shirik | with blue |
| 17:46.22 | Shirik | ow |
| 17:46.29 | Kaydeethree | color stripping, <3 |
| 17:46.34 | art3mis | http://www.bulletproofbaby.net/ |
| 17:46.38 | sag_ich_nicht | Shirik, there is no black in my spam. |
| 17:46.41 | zenzelezz | Mr. T pities the fool that don't strip colors on IRC |
| 17:46.43 | Cidan | I do not recognize the DMCA |
| 17:46.47 | Cidan | and do not abide by it. |
| 17:46.58 | Cidan | When a product I own is in my own home, I can do with it as I wish. |
| 17:47.00 | Punkie` | 9,13 hi Shirik |
| 17:47.03 | Punkie` | :D |
| 17:47.08 | Punkie` | ow my eyes :( |
| 17:47.11 | Cidan | lol |
| 17:47.12 | Gnarfoz | Cidan: in some countries, you can |
| 17:47.13 | Cidan | backfired. |
| 17:47.41 | sag_ich_nicht | no |
| 17:47.44 | sag_ich_nicht | instead of smacking me |
| 17:47.46 | Cidan | smack me too? |
| 17:47.47 | Cidan | :D |
| 17:47.52 | sag_ich_nicht | go to www.futuristicsexrobotz.com |
| 17:48.00 | sag_ich_nicht | and download hotel coral essex :O |
| 17:48.01 | Shirik | Punkie`: I hate you |
| 17:48.02 | Cairenn | Cidan: only if you beg prettily |
| 17:48.14 | Cidan | Oh pleeasseeee Cairenn, smackkk meeee |
| 17:48.28 | sag_ich_nicht | wait, hold. |
| 17:48.32 | sag_ich_nicht | Cidan, how old are you. |
| 17:48.38 | Cidan | 24. |
| 17:48.42 | sag_ich_nicht | Cairenn, how old are you. |
| 17:48.42 | cog|work | proceed |
| 17:48.45 | Thrae | Cairenn's avatar does look like it might hold a whip. |
| 17:48.47 | art3mis | http://www.xkcd.com/306/ |
| 17:48.51 | Cidan | Never ask a ladies age. |
| 17:48.52 | cog|work | sag_ich_nicht: you never ask a woman that question |
| 17:48.53 | sag_ich_nicht | cogwheel, overlord much yes? |
| 17:49.00 | Cidan | ever ever ever. |
| 17:49.03 | Cidan | even on IRC. |
| 17:49.09 | sag_ich_nicht | Cidan: it's not like Cairenn is a lady. |
| 17:49.13 | Cidan | ... |
| 17:49.17 | Cairenn | excuse me? |
| 17:49.21 | Cidan | oh boy... |
| 17:49.27 | art3mis | thats just retared to not ask a persons age if you're unsure |
| 17:49.40 | sag_ich_nicht | and cogweel, this is the internet, where men are men, women are men, and little girls are FBI agents, thus your statement is invalid. |
| 17:49.46 | ScytheBlade1 | ~irc |
| 17:49.47 | purl | "Welcome to IRC: where the men are men, the women are men, and the little girls are FBI agents." |
| 17:49.48 | art3mis | and in most cases not asking for id can get you jail time ;P |
| 17:49.55 | Shirik | Cairenn is 21 |
| 17:50.00 | Shirik | the perfect age |
| 17:50.09 | Cairenn | art3mis: 15'll get you 20, hey? |
| 17:50.11 | Lin | Cairenn: is a lady? |
| 17:50.18 | art3mis | cairenn: pretty much |
| 17:50.27 | Cidan | Lin, indeed. |
| 17:50.28 | art3mis | it's like bar-style 3 card monty |
| 17:50.39 | Thrae | Lin: I've seen proof! |
| 17:50.41 | Cairenn | I still want to hear how it is that I'm not a lady .... |
| 17:50.56 | sag_ich_nicht | ~dict Lady |
| 17:51.02 | ScytheBlade1 | ..... |
| 17:51.03 | ScytheBlade1 | lol |
| 17:51.08 | Lin | Cairenn: we have ladies here? omg.. I didn't knew. |
| 17:51.12 | art3mis | cuz ladies dont hang around with boys, always wear dresses and have those frilly umbrellas for summer walks |
| 17:51.21 | Thrae | Usually I require naked pictures to determine true female status on IRC, but for Cairenn I made an exception. |
| 17:51.30 | sag_ich_nicht | so, Cairenn, are you a women of the peerage in Britain? |
| 17:51.40 | *** join/#wowi-lounge gnorlish (n=jaydee@cpe-76-81-38-253.socal.res.rr.com) |
| 17:51.43 | art3mis | thrae: cuz she'd kick your ass otherwise? |
| 17:51.44 | Thrae | I mean hey, there are tons of effeminate-looking men out there. |
| 17:51.45 | Cairenn | ... |
| 17:51.50 | sag_ich_nicht | ~wiki Lady |
| 17:51.51 | Shirik | "a women" |
| 17:51.57 | cog|work | hence my usage of "woman" as opposed to "lady" |
| 17:52.07 | Kaydeethree | where's that bomb shelter again? |
| 17:52.07 | sag_ich_nicht | s |
| 17:52.13 | Shirik | "woman" has become more derogatory lately, hasn't it |
| 17:52.17 | Thrae | art3mis: Out of respect, respect. |
| 17:52.19 | art3mis | carienn can fold press and strech my dough any day ;P |
| 17:52.28 | art3mis | ~rimshot |
| 17:52.29 | purl | ba-dum CHH |
| 17:52.31 | Thrae | Shirik: womyn! |
| 17:52.38 | Shirik | "Where you going, woman!" |
| 17:52.41 | Shirik | stuff like that |
| 17:52.44 | sag_ich_nicht | god |
| 17:52.46 | Gryphen | ye3s? |
| 17:52.50 | Cidan | uh |
| 17:52.51 | sag_ich_nicht | ... |
| 17:52.52 | Shirik | That's how my brother acts, he's a moron |
| 17:52.53 | Cidan | it all depends on tone |
| 17:52.55 | cog|work | ~smack Gryphen |
| 17:52.56 | purl | ACTION smacks Gryphen upside the head. |
| 17:53.01 | Thrae | Shirik: Is your brother white? |
| 17:53.05 | Shirik | yes |
| 17:53.11 | art3mis | Gryphen: the classic response is, what do you want? i didnt say holy shit. |
| 17:53.12 | Shirik | I don't think he is on the inside though |
| 17:53.12 | ScytheBlade1 | lol |
| 17:53.22 | Shirik | (Sorry to be racist, if that's how it came out) |
| 17:53.31 | ScytheBlade1 | One of the top end raiding guilds on my server (or rather, the top end Alliance guild) had one pivotal question on their app |
| 17:53.35 | ScytheBlade1 | Black: Y/N |
| 17:53.40 | art3mis | look you're a ghost! |
| 17:53.49 | art3mis | a nice scary ghost |
| 17:53.50 | sag_ich_nicht | Women no cry no, is all i say. |
| 17:53.55 | sag_ich_nicht | ScytheBlade1 what the hell. |
| 17:54.01 | Thrae | I'm not White. I'm Pale. |
| 17:54.06 | ScytheBlade1 | Not even kidding |
| 17:54.14 | art3mis | every guild needs a black guy |
| 17:54.15 | cog|work | Racism is the belief in the superiority of one over another simply due to race. Recognizing differences in races is NOT racism |
| 17:54.23 | ScytheBlade1 | qft @ cog |
| 17:54.28 | sag_ich_nicht | ScytheBlade1 yeah i figured that, do they still exists? |
| 17:54.28 | gnorlish | that sounds racist cog |
| 17:54.32 | gnorlish | talking about race is racist |
| 17:54.34 | Shirik | And communist |
| 17:54.42 | ScytheBlade1 | sag_ich_nicht, oh yes. http://www.drow.org/forums/index.php/topic,26839.0.html |
| 17:54.50 | Shirik | communistic? |
| 17:54.54 | ScytheBlade1 | They got the Reliquary of Souls down recently |
| 17:55.03 | sag_ich_nicht | cogwheel, please gain op and kick gnorlish, even if it was just sarcasm :O |
| 17:55.13 | Thrae | cog|work: The current usage of racism is the bias where one makes judgements based on race. |
| 17:55.34 | Shirik | ok, so |
| 17:55.37 | Shirik | what should I make for lunch |
| 17:55.38 | Thrae | cog|work: Such as, "Let's pull over that black guy, he's in the wrong neighborhood" |
| 17:55.43 | Shirik | I have macaroni & cheese, cereal |
| 17:55.45 | Shirik | pop tarts |
| 17:55.48 | art3mis | if it werent for the blacks where would the percecuted christians have been in developing the united states |
| 17:55.54 | Cidan | ... |
| 17:55.55 | Cidan | shirik |
| 17:55.57 | art3mis | ;) |
| 17:55.57 | Shirik | um |
| 17:55.57 | ScytheBlade1 | Wow. |
| 17:55.57 | Cidan | that's sad dude. |
| 17:56.04 | Cidan | oh |
| 17:56.05 | art3mis | well on the east coast |
| 17:56.06 | ScytheBlade1 | This conversation changed directions... quickly |
| 17:56.14 | Thrae | Profiling is racism -- the cops don't need to think they're superior, and in some cases the cops are black themselves |
| 17:56.16 | art3mis | the west coast used the chinese cuz it was a shorter boat ride |
| 17:56.17 | sag_ich_nicht | ScytheBlade1 application page is down |
| 17:56.21 | Shirik | I have cookies but I don't that'll be very filling :P |
| 17:56.33 | ScytheBlade1 | sag_ich_nicht, it has since changed, they rotate it every so often |
| 17:56.42 | ScytheBlade1 | They have the typical app form + random question |
| 17:56.44 | Thrae | I don't like cookies, I think they taste bad. Therefore I make my browser reject them. |
| 17:56.47 | Cidan | Can we move away from hot button topics, please? |
| 17:56.53 | ScytheBlade1 | Currently the question is "If you were stranded and had to choose between eating a talking gorilla and a seeing eye dog to survive which would you eat and why?" |
| 17:56.57 | Shirik | Thrae >< |
| 17:57.02 | sag_ich_nicht | [19:55] <Shirik> I have macaroni & cheese, cereal <--macaroni & cheese is an abomination of american food that needs to die in a fire. |
| 17:57.08 | Thrae | Cidan: OK. |
| 17:57.09 | Shirik | dude |
| 17:57.17 | Shirik | macaroni and cheese is easy to make |
| 17:57.19 | Shirik | therefore it's awesome |
| 17:57.22 | Shirik | because it's something I can cook |
| 17:57.23 | art3mis | cidan: we're nerds on irc in a programming channel, do you honestly believe anything said in here has any merit or weight regarding topics of that nature? |
| 17:57.25 | Shirik | one of two things |
| 17:57.33 | Shirik | the other being soup |
| 17:57.37 | Shirik | condensed soop |
| 17:57.39 | sag_ich_nicht | you put the damn PESTO over the damn PASTA, or use use the damn PASTA with the damn SUGO and then add the damn friggin PARMESAN |
| 17:57.40 | Shirik | soup |
| 17:57.41 | sag_ich_nicht | OKAY? |
| 17:57.42 | art3mis | besides abortion is an all too played out topic in the news ;) |
| 17:57.43 | Thrae | So I hear Cidan is a homophobic racist neo-nazi nambla member. |
| 17:57.46 | Shirik | what's a sugo? |
| 17:57.48 | Cidan | :/ |
| 17:57.49 | art3mis | so we cant use that instead |
| 17:57.51 | sag_ich_nicht | ~wiki Sugo |
| 17:57.56 | sag_ich_nicht | ... |
| 17:57.56 | Shirik | see! |
| 17:57.58 | Shirik | It doesn't exist. |
| 17:57.59 | ScytheBlade1 | rofl |
| 17:58.00 | Shirik | Wikipedia says so. |
| 17:58.01 | sag_ich_nicht | god, you fail at life wikipedia |
| 17:58.05 | Cidan | I personally am far worse than any of you can even hope to be. |
| 17:58.10 | Cidan | However, I know the time and place. |
| 17:58.15 | Cidan | And this is neither. |
| 17:58.37 | Cidan | Respect that, please. |
| 17:58.37 | art3mis | they you dont actually know the time and palce and you're just a pretender to the throne ;) |
| 17:58.50 | sag_ich_nicht | http://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sugo_%28cucina%29 |
| 17:58.58 | sag_ich_nicht | THERE YOU HAVE SUGO |
| 17:59.03 | sag_ich_nicht | wikipedia fails at italian food! |
| 17:59.09 | Shirik | because italian food sucks |
| 17:59.12 | Shirik | and I'm an italian |
| 17:59.16 | sag_ich_nicht | GET OUT |
| 17:59.22 | Shirik | except pizza |
| 17:59.22 | art3mis | besides im an agnostic meglomaniac and a humanracist ;P |
| 17:59.23 | Shirik | pizza is ok |
| 17:59.24 | sag_ich_nicht | you are NOT an italian |
| 17:59.30 | Shirik | That's what my grandfather keeps saying |
| 17:59.44 | Shirik | now /he's/ an italian :) |
| 17:59.48 | art3mis | my wifes italian |
| 17:59.49 | Cidan | sag_ich_nicht, hi, my name is Antonio. |
| 17:59.51 | sag_ich_nicht | you are some RETARDED italo-american that has no taste, move your ass to europe and i will show you that italian food is awesome, i swear. |
| 17:59.56 | art3mis | im getting fat because of it |
| 18:00.01 | Shirik | dude |
| 18:00.04 | Shirik | italian food has no taste |
| 18:00.08 | Shirik | asian food has taste |
| 18:00.10 | Cidan | Shirik, oO |
| 18:00.16 | Cidan | Shirik, you nuts? |
| 18:00.18 | Shirik | italian food is just bleh |
| 18:00.23 | sag_ich_nicht | Shirik italian food has a TON of taste, you did not eat italian food yet if you claim otherwise |
| 18:00.24 | Cidan | Shirik, what kind of italian food do you ear? |
| 18:00.30 | sag_ich_nicht | you ate something that CLAIMED to have taste |
| 18:00.33 | Shirik | I tend to put it in my mouth, not my ear |
| 18:00.36 | Cidan | Seriously, you must eat american-italian food |
| 18:00.37 | Shirik | that's probably why |
| 18:00.38 | sag_ich_nicht | and CLAIMED to be italian |
| 18:00.53 | Shirik | sag_ich_nicht: I put those frozen tortellinis in a pot once |
| 18:00.55 | Shirik | does that count? |
| 18:00.58 | sag_ich_nicht | no. |
| 18:00.58 | art3mis | shirik eats at olive garden for his itlian meals ;P |
| 18:00.58 | Cidan | lol |
| 18:01.10 | sag_ich_nicht | Cidan please, feed Shirik some good italian food, will you? D: |
| 18:01.10 | Cidan | I h8 olive garden. |
| 18:01.19 | Shirik | olive garden is good, they have bread |
| 18:01.21 | Cidan | It's the worst "italian" food ever. |
| 18:01.21 | Shirik | I like bread |
| 18:01.25 | Shirik | I could eat bread all day :P |
| 18:01.29 | Shirik | and they let me |
| 18:01.56 | art3mis | shirik: thats why you only order the unlimited soup salad and breadsticks for 5.95 ;) |
| 18:02.03 | Shirik | exactly |
| 18:02.15 | Lin | I know the recipe for a quattro formaggio pasta. Very good one.. Every one loves it. |
| 18:02.22 | Shirik | I'd probably butcher it |
| 18:02.52 | Shirik | I mean hell, I screwed up microwaving some left over chicken wings the other day |
| 18:02.57 | Shirik | I was pretty impressed with myself |
| 18:03.16 | Cidan | jeebus |
| 18:03.19 | Cidan | cooking is sooo easy |
| 18:03.27 | Shirik | The problem is, however |
| 18:03.32 | ScytheBlade1 | Around 280 it requires fish |
| 18:03.33 | Lin | Cidan: has cooking 375 ;-) |
| 18:03.37 | ScytheBlade1 | And then again around 350 |
| 18:03.39 | Shirik | none of you ever answered the original question that sparked this topic! |
| 18:03.49 | Lin | which question? |
| 18:03.59 | Shirik | 132:552:24 12Shirik12 ok, so |
| 18:03.59 | Shirik | 132:552:27 12Shirik12 what should I make for lunch |
| 18:04.03 | Shirik | 132:552:33 12Shirik12 I have macaroni & cheese, cereal |
| 18:04.03 | Shirik | 132:552:34 12Shirik12 pop tarts |
| 18:04.03 | Cidan | uh |
| 18:04.13 | Lin | good |
| 18:04.20 | Lin | which kind of cheese? |
| 18:04.23 | art3mis | poptarts obviously |
| 18:04.24 | Shirik | uh |
| 18:04.25 | Cidan | go get some meats, and rice, and bread, and... something |
| 18:04.27 | ScytheBlade1 | Processed powder? |
| 18:04.29 | Shirik | yes |
| 18:04.30 | cog|work | you should make a trip to your local mexican restaurant |
| 18:04.30 | Shirik | that cheese |
| 18:04.40 | Shirik | cog|work: They don't open until 5 :( |
| 18:04.42 | ScytheBlade1 | I'd have to agree with Cog |
| 18:04.43 | sag_ich_nicht | Cidan please, give him some pasta with a good sugo or a pesto(a GOOD one, even slightly bad pesto is like, puke worthy), or some Caprese, or SOMETHING |
| 18:04.58 | Lin | omg pesto is amazing. |
| 18:05.13 | Shirik | pesto is the only italian thing I can actually order and like |
| 18:05.21 | Shirik | "thing" |
| 18:05.22 | Shirik | well |
| 18:05.26 | Shirik | it's not really a "thing" |
| 18:05.27 | Lin | I have made a sugo pasta this weekend.. Damn good.. |
| 18:05.29 | Shirik | but pesto-ed stuff |
| 18:05.47 | Cidan | sag_ich_nicht, too busy, he's on his own, :D |
| 18:05.53 | sag_ich_nicht | Cidan nooooooooooooooooooooooooo |
| 18:06.01 | sag_ich_nicht | his tastebuds are WASTED on him |
| 18:06.04 | Shirik | I had a semi-good scallops and shrimp over linguini with pesto the other day |
| 18:06.15 | Shirik | but still, had no taste really |
| 18:06.34 | sag_ich_nicht | you need to eat Caprese :O |
| 18:06.42 | Shirik | who? |
| 18:06.52 | sag_ich_nicht | with Mozzarella di Bufala Campana :O |
| 18:07.04 | Shirik | wow wtf |
| 18:07.10 | Shirik | my school just copied virginia tech |
| 18:07.11 | cog|work | I first had insalata caprese on Capri |
| 18:07.15 | Cidan | ... |
| 18:07.17 | cog|work | O.O |
| 18:07.17 | Cidan | what? |
| 18:07.26 | Shirik | "As we strive to improve our ability to respond quickly to any emergency, Embry-Riddle Aeronautical University has instituted the CodeREDฎ Emergency Notification System -- an ultra high-speed reverse 911 telephone communication service. This will be a great addition to our crisis-management arsenal. The system provides immediate notification to the university community through a telephone-number database when an emergency situation occur |
| 18:07.43 | Valaron|Work | Oh.. I thought you meant something different. |
| 18:07.48 | cog|work | yeah me too |
| 18:08.02 | Cidan | I love this shit |
| 18:08.03 | cog|work | ~smack shirik |
| 18:08.04 | purl | ACTION smacks shirik upside the head. |
| 18:08.06 | Cidan | I fucking love it |
| 18:08.15 | ScytheBlade1 | lol |
| 18:08.26 | Cidan | OUR CHILDREN HAVE ISSUES, LET'S IGNORE THEM AND BRACE FOR THE WORST! |
| 18:08.27 | ScytheBlade1 | "Copied Virginia Tech" made me think... of other things ;) |
| 18:08.28 | Cidan | Christ. |
| 18:08.38 | Lin | sag_ich_nicht: do you REALLY love italian food. |
| 18:08.45 | Cidan | Let's just fast forward to Rome's downfall |
| 18:08.50 | Cidan | that'll make things a lot easier. |
| 18:08.58 | Lin | sag_ich_nicht: Near my house there is a amazing cantina. |
| 18:08.58 | Shirik | I mean |
| 18:09.03 | Shirik | I can understand it for some things |
| 18:09.08 | Shirik | we have a lot of hurricane closings and stuff |
| 18:09.13 | Shirik | but some of the stuff they listed in this email |
| 18:09.15 | cog|work | I think guns should be allowed on campus... imagine how many people would've been saved if someone could have fired back... |
| 18:09.15 | sag_ich_nicht | cogwheel i just had Insalata Caprese with Mozzarella di Bufala Campana, tomatoes from our garden and a really good olive oil, and the basil was also from our garden :O |
| 18:09.17 | Shirik | "bomb threat" are you kidding? |
| 18:09.49 | foxlit | DTMR addon comm header is from? :) |
| 18:10.06 | ScytheBlade1 | My state legislature just (well, not 'just') passed legislation stating that no guns will be allowed on campuses |
| 18:10.11 | sag_ich_nicht | [20:08] <Lin> sag_ich_nicht: do you REALLY love italian food. <--i love food in general. |
| 18:10.15 | ScytheBlade1 | I'm happy that my school is fighiting that tooth and nail |
| 18:10.15 | Shirik | foxlit ? |
| 18:10.18 | cog|work | sag_ich_nicht: my wife and I did similar for our wedding... We made little mini capreses on a stick... Toothipics with a leaf of basil, a cherry tomato, and a slice of buffalo bocconcini |
| 18:10.25 | sag_ich_nicht | Lin: i am from vienna |
| 18:10.43 | Lin | sag_ich_nicht: I'm from rio de janeiro |
| 18:10.44 | cog|work | I love food in general too :) |
| 18:10.58 | Lin | I love women |
| 18:10.59 | Shirik | I still think sag_ich_nicht hasn't had real asian food |
| 18:11.04 | foxlit | Trying to figure out just what the heck is spamming addon comms |
| 18:11.08 | Lin | but not in general... just the good ones |
| 18:11.14 | Shirik | oh |
| 18:11.17 | Shirik | and the header is DTMR |
| 18:11.19 | ScytheBlade1 | foxlit, probably Cartographer |
| 18:11.22 | Shirik | no |
| 18:11.22 | ScytheBlade1 | Or not. |
| 18:11.25 | sag_ich_nicht | Shirik: VIETNAMESE FOOD IS DELICIOUS |
| 18:11.27 | sag_ich_nicht | there |
| 18:11.29 | sag_ich_nicht | you happy now? |
| 18:11.29 | Shirik | cartographer uses some unreadable header :P |
| 18:11.35 | pastamancer | pho pho pho |
| 18:11.36 | Lin | sag_ich_nicht: and about arabian? |
| 18:11.46 | ScytheBlade1 | Yeah, and that header/channel changes too. |
| 18:11.52 | cog|work | I love middle-eastern food |
| 18:11.55 | Shirik | I used to work with an indian that owned a restaurant |
| 18:11.58 | Shirik | he had some AWESOME food |
| 18:11.59 | sag_ich_nicht | want me to tell you about the bowls with the fish something that you can basicially dip anything in that makes it taste delicious? want me to get my vietnamese cookin book? :P |
| 18:11.59 | ScytheBlade1 | When you said "spamming addon comms" that's what instantly came to mind |
| 18:12.05 | Shirik | he would bring us stuff from there fore free :) |
| 18:12.22 | sag_ich_nicht | Lin: arabian food is delicious too, but the problem is in doing it right. i especially like their sweet stuff |
| 18:12.23 | sag_ich_nicht | :O |
| 18:12.34 | foxlit | Well, cartographer is fairly obvious, but as Shirik said, it broadcasts with nonsense headers |
| 18:12.36 | Lin | sag_ich_nicht: with honey and nuts |
| 18:12.40 | sag_ich_nicht | yes :O |
| 18:12.49 | sag_ich_nicht | Lin: my point is: ...wait, wikipedia removed the article on viennese cuisine |
| 18:12.49 | Lin | sag_ich_nicht: lovely ;-) |
| 18:12.50 | sag_ich_nicht | FAILURE |
| 18:12.52 | Shirik | DTRM I don't recognize immediately |
| 18:12.52 | ScytheBlade1 | True |
| 18:12.57 | foxlit | DTMR |
| 18:13.00 | Shirik | whatever :P |
| 18:13.09 | Shirik | what channel's it coming in on? |
| 18:13.09 | Lin | we are all damn fat nerds. |
| 18:13.11 | Lin | ;-) |
| 18:13.20 | Lin | or willing to be. |
| 18:13.21 | Shirik | I'm under 140 actually :P |
| 18:13.27 | Shirik | and ... what.. 6'3" or so |
| 18:13.34 | Lin | 140 pounds? or kilo? |
| 18:13.36 | Shirik | pounds |
| 18:13.37 | cog|work | eat some damend food! |
| 18:13.55 | cog|work | i was skinny when i was 170 at 6'1... |
| 18:14.03 | sag_ich_nicht | Lin: my BMI is 20.4 |
| 18:14.12 | Lin | mine is bigger |
| 18:14.16 | sag_ich_nicht | if i'd be any thinner i'd be underweight |
| 18:14.18 | Lin | 29 or something near |
| 18:14.25 | sag_ich_nicht | fatty :P |
| 18:14.27 | Lin | yeah |
| 18:14.34 | Shirik | mine is max 17.5 |
| 18:14.37 | Shirik | I used to be 130 |
| 18:14.42 | Shirik | but I gained some weight |
| 18:14.42 | Lin | Shirik: you're skinny |
| 18:14.51 | Shirik | not my fault |
| 18:14.56 | sag_ich_nicht | Shirik if your BMI is below 19 you are underweight |
| 18:14.59 | Shirik | I don't eat, I stay the same. I eat, I stay the same |
| 18:14.59 | sag_ich_nicht | train/eat more |
| 18:15.07 | sag_ich_nicht | then you need to gain muscle mass |
| 18:15.13 | Cidan | Shirik, that will change |
| 18:15.14 | Shirik | too hard |
| 18:15.15 | Cidan | I promise you |
| 18:15.19 | Lin | sag_ich_nicht: Stop playing... |
| 18:15.24 | Shirik | Cidan: Unlikely, it's mostly because I'm hyperthyroid |
| 18:15.30 | Lin | Im become fat after marriage. |
| 18:15.34 | sag_ich_nicht | [20:15] <Lin> sag_ich_nicht: Stop playing... <--playing what? |
| 18:15.39 | Lin | before that I just dont wat |
| 18:15.44 | Lin | sag_ich_nicht: hmm WoW? |
| 18:15.48 | Cidan | Shirik, you've been warned. :P |
| 18:15.49 | sag_ich_nicht | Lin: why? |
| 18:15.56 | Lin | sag_ich_nicht: to get some food |
| 18:16.23 | ScytheBlade1 | Argh. I run WWS logs for my guild... and I forgot to clean my own log out. 24MB of data in it now. :( |
| 18:16.29 | sag_ich_nicht | ...i haven played WoW since last thusday, i went straight to bed yesterday and the day before when i came home from work and slept the night thru |
| 18:16.39 | sag_ich_nicht | i am eating healthy and good, Lin. |
| 18:16.41 | Shirik | and for the record |
| 18:16.42 | sag_ich_nicht | so leave me alone |
| 18:16.43 | sag_ich_nicht | :O |
| 18:16.45 | Shirik | sag_ich_nicht, 18.5 is underweight |
| 18:16.45 | Shirik | not 19 |
| 18:16.57 | Lin | sag_ich_nicht: sorry :-( |
| 18:16.57 | sag_ich_nicht | ~round 18.5 |
| 18:17.10 | Lin | sag_ich_nicht: ;-) |
| 18:17.12 | Shirik | >>> return math.floor(18.5) |
| 18:17.12 | Cide | Shirik: 18 |
| 18:17.14 | Shirik | there you go |
| 18:17.15 | Shirik | rounded |
| 18:17.18 | sag_ich_nicht | Shirik no |
| 18:17.18 | Lin | I will work a little. |
| 18:17.20 | sag_ich_nicht | that's floored. |
| 18:17.24 | Shirik | ok |
| 18:17.27 | Lin | lua> echo "test" |
| 18:17.28 | cladbot | Lin: [string "echo "test""]:1: attempt to call global 'echo' (a nil value) |
| 18:17.30 | Lin | hehehe |
| 18:17.34 | Shirik | >>> round = math.floor; return round(18.5) |
| 18:17.35 | Cide | Shirik: 18 |
| 18:17.36 | Shirik | there. |
| 18:17.37 | Shirik | rounded. |
| 18:17.41 | sag_ich_nicht | no |
| 18:17.53 | Cidan | lua> print("test"); |
| 18:17.53 | cladbot | Cidan: test |
| 18:18.02 | Cairenn | we're all fat? |
| 18:18.07 | Shirik | except Cairenn |
| 18:18.10 | sag_ich_nicht | you just declared round to be a function and made that function math.floor, so you still floored it |
| 18:18.11 | Cidan | and me. |
| 18:18.12 | Lin | lua> printf ("asd\tasd"); |
| 18:18.12 | cladbot | Lin: [string "printf ("asd\tasd");"]:1: attempt to call global 'printf' (a nil value) |
| 18:18.14 | art3mis | i wish i was fat |
| 18:18.21 | Lin | there isn't printf .. OMG! |
| 18:18.26 | Shirik | Lin: That's because it's Lua! |
| 18:18.28 | Cidan | not in lua |
| 18:18.28 | Shirik | not C! |
| 18:18.29 | Cidan | lol |
| 18:18.32 | sag_ich_nicht | guessing now, and probably failing |
| 18:18.33 | sag_ich_nicht | >>> math.round(18.5) |
| 18:18.33 | Cide | sag_ich_nicht: [string "math.round(18.5)"]:1: attempt to call field 'round' (a nil value) |
| 18:18.36 | sag_ich_nicht | heh |
| 18:18.37 | sag_ich_nicht | figured that |
| 18:18.38 | sag_ich_nicht | :O |
| 18:18.47 | sag_ich_nicht | oh wait |
| 18:18.50 | Shirik | in reality though, round is easy to define |
| 18:18.52 | cog|work | rounding direction is entirely arbitrary |
| 18:18.53 | Lin | int c, a; |
| 18:18.54 | Cidan | lua> math.ceil(18.5) |
| 18:18.54 | cladbot | Cidan: 19, |
| 18:19.05 | Lin | char *c |
| 18:19.05 | cog|work | 18.5 is no closer to 19 than it is to 18 |
| 18:19.07 | Cidan | lua> math.floor(18.5) |
| 18:19.08 | cladbot | Cidan: 18, |
| 18:19.29 | Shirik | actually I think I already defined it |
| 18:19.30 | Shirik | >>> SVN |
| 18:19.30 | Cide | Shirik: nil |
| 18:19.31 | Cidan | 5 and up, round up, 4 and under round down |
| 18:19.31 | Shirik | >> SV |
| 18:19.32 | art3mis | i think i need a new apt and wife |
| 18:19.35 | Shirik | >>> SV |
| 18:19.36 | Cide | Shirik: { ["GetRandomArgument"] = function: 007CD4E0, ["Cide_domath"] = function: 007CD500, ["poo"] = false, ["mathwithops"] = { ["-"] = function: 007CD5A0, ["/"] = function: 007CD5E0, ["+"] = function: 007CD... (exceeded 200 characters) |
| 18:19.37 | Cidan | Unless you're the IRS in the USA |
| 18:19.51 | sag_ich_nicht | >>> crash |
| 18:19.51 | Cide | sag_ich_nicht: nil |
| 18:19.54 | Cidan | when you pay taxes, always round up. :P |
| 18:19.54 | sag_ich_nicht | damn! |
| 18:19.55 | Shirik | >>> for k,v in pairs(SV) do if type(v) == 'function' then print(k) end end |
| 18:19.55 | Cide | Shirik: "GetRandomArgument", "Cide_domath", "domathpart", "Shirik_domath", "replace", "foo" |
| 18:20.04 | Lin | AFK!! ;-) kisses for the girls ;-) |
| 18:20.15 | Shirik | hm, maybe I didn't |
| 18:20.15 | Shirik | oh well |
| 18:20.20 | art3mis | cidan: thats only because it's better to be over than under ;') |
| 18:20.41 | sag_ich_nicht | i always found rounding stupid anyway, i think it should be 6 and up, round up, 5 and under round down, but that's just me. |
| 18:20.58 | sag_ich_nicht | but then! |
| 18:21.03 | sag_ich_nicht | i had the realization! |
| 18:21.03 | Shirik | I don't like rounding period because it's inaccuracies |
| 18:21.07 | Cidan | well not just that, when sales tax calculates out as to what you owe, it always rounds up |
| 18:21.08 | Shirik | but I'm an engineer |
| 18:21.13 | Shirik | I build everything with tolerances |
| 18:21.13 | sag_ich_nicht | we count 0 to 9! |
| 18:21.16 | sag_ich_nicht | not 1 to 10! |
| 18:21.20 | sag_ich_nicht | and then it made perfect sense :O |
| 18:21.51 | ts|skrom | lol |
| 18:21.53 | Cidan | not to me |
| 18:22.10 | Shirik | Lua counts 1 to 10 |
| 18:22.16 | art3mis | 5 rounds up for the simple fact that 5.1 is closer to 10 than 1 ;P |
| 18:22.19 | sag_ich_nicht | lua is a dumb whore, tho. |
| 18:22.22 | Cidan | since 0 is an abstraction, not an object |
| 18:22.26 | art3mis | 5.00000000000000000000000000000001 is as well |
| 18:22.28 | Cidan | 0 is the lack of an object |
| 18:22.41 | art3mis | thus its a safer bet that 5 goes up than down in all cases |
| 18:22.59 | sag_ich_nicht | okay |
| 18:23.01 | sag_ich_nicht | flood incoming |
| 18:23.04 | Cidan | no |
| 18:23.04 | sag_ich_nicht | beware |
| 18:23.06 | sag_ich_nicht | Shirik you are not an engineer then. to quote scotty and laforge: |
| 18:23.07 | sag_ich_nicht | "The tank can't handle that much pressure." |
| 18:23.07 | sag_ich_nicht | "Where'd you get that idea?" |
| 18:23.07 | sag_ich_nicht | "It's in the impulse specifications." |
| 18:23.07 | sag_ich_nicht | "Regulation 42/15: โPressure Variances in IRC Tank Storageโ?" |
| 18:23.07 | sag_ich_nicht | "Right." |
| 18:23.09 | sag_ich_nicht | "Forget it. I wrote it." |
| 18:23.18 | art3mis | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:23.30 | sag_ich_nicht | tolerances are not enough. |
| 18:23.40 | sag_ich_nicht | >:O |
| 18:23.54 | Shirik | yeah, tell that to my CAM team |
| 18:24.18 | sag_ich_nicht | you need a paper tolerance |
| 18:24.22 | Shirik | they got annoyed when I just told them '26mm' instead of '26+/-1mm' for the cathode lead on an LED |
| 18:24.42 | sag_ich_nicht | and then you give it at least another 10% tolerance that's not stated on the paper. |
| 18:25.19 | Shirik | ok really I think I'm going to go eat |
| 18:25.27 | Cidan | Shirik, Good luck |
| 18:25.30 | Shirik | still nobody's told me what to make |
| 18:25.31 | Shirik | but fine |
| 18:25.33 | art3mis | poptarts! |
| 18:25.34 | Shirik | I'll figure something out |
| 18:25.46 | sag_ich_nicht | Shirik STOP |
| 18:25.47 | Cidan | Make love not war? |
| 18:25.48 | sag_ich_nicht | what do you have |
| 18:25.52 | Shirik | hammer time |
| 18:25.54 | Shirik | omg |
| 18:25.56 | art3mis | hah |
| 18:25.59 | art3mis | was just typing that |
| 18:26.00 | Shirik | I've I already said what I have |
| 18:26.04 | sag_ich_nicht | i will tell you the best meal you can make with what you have |
| 18:26.04 | sag_ich_nicht | no |
| 18:26.06 | Cairenn | Shirik: poptarts = breakfast of champions |
| 18:26.17 | sag_ich_nicht | you said you had macaroni, cheese, poptarts and uh, cereals. |
| 18:26.19 | Shirik | yes |
| 18:26.24 | sag_ich_nicht | you sure that is ALL you have? |
| 18:26.25 | Cairenn | so mac & cheese |
| 18:26.27 | Shirik | specifically corn pops |
| 18:26.32 | Shirik | and... something else |
| 18:26.33 | Shirik | I forget |
| 18:26.35 | art3mis | poptaerts a bowl of ceareal and a glass of orange juice is a well balanced meal |
| 18:26.36 | ts|skrom | Shirik you really should stop, sag_ich_nicht is trying to collaberate, you should listen |
| 18:26.37 | ts|skrom | :O |
| 18:26.54 | Kaydeethree | "Any network service that won't start is fairly invulnerable". |
| 18:26.55 | art3mis | ~fishslap ts|skrom |
| 18:26.56 | purl | ACTION slaps ts|skrom up side the head with a wet fish. |
| 18:27.03 | ts|skrom | ~whaleparry |
| 18:27.06 | ts|skrom | :( |
| 18:27.07 | ts|skrom | I lose |
| 18:27.11 | *** join/#wowi-lounge JoshBorke (n=Josh@r35h14.res.gatech.edu) |
| 18:27.11 | art3mis | FATALITY! |
| 18:27.12 | Kaydeethree | words to live by. ^ from the 'zomgwtfhax fox hacking fark' threa |
| 18:27.13 | Shirik | Kaydeethree: Any computer that won't turn on is protected |
| 18:27.14 | art3mis | YOU LOSE! |
| 18:27.21 | Kaydeethree | s/threa/thread/ |
| 18:27.38 | Shirik | sag_ich_nicht: I have water too |
| 18:27.40 | Shirik | does that help? |
| 18:27.54 | Shirik | oh and chocolate syrup |
| 18:27.55 | sag_ich_nicht | no, not really. |
| 18:28.04 | Shirik | and klondike bars, cookies and cream variety |
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| 18:28.16 | sag_ich_nicht | "cream variety"? |
| 18:28.22 | Shirik | cookies and cream? |
| 18:28.23 | sag_ich_nicht | what the hell is that supposed to mean. |
| 18:28.40 | Shirik | you don't know cookies and cream? |
| 18:28.43 | sag_ich_nicht | i suggest combining the chocolate syrup with the cream, and have chocolate cream with cookies. |
| 18:28.45 | Lunessa | Approach Logan-5 and Identify. |
| 18:28.47 | Shirik | I refuse to take cooking advice from you now :P |
| 18:28.51 | Shirik | there are no cookies! |
| 18:28.52 | sag_ich_nicht | of course i know cookies and cream |
| 18:28.57 | Shirik | well, yes there are cookies |
| 18:29.00 | Shirik | but milanos |
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| 18:29.10 | Shirik | too expensive to eat for lunch |
| 18:29.10 | sag_ich_nicht | i was questioning what the variety is supposed to mean |
| 18:29.20 | Shirik | cookies and cream klondike bars |
| 18:29.37 | art3mis | http://cu.nniling.us/210/ |
| 18:29.44 | JoshBorke | yay, the high was only 98 today! |
| 18:29.44 | sag_ich_nicht | listen |
| 18:29.58 | sag_ich_nicht | just combine the chocolate syrup with the cream and the result with the poptarts |
| 18:30.07 | art3mis | you could have ice cream soup for lunch |
| 18:30.14 | Shirik | these ones: http://www.icecreamusa.com/products/product.cfm?u=75856-02409&b=3 |
| 18:30.19 | sag_ich_nicht | art3mis hush |
| 18:30.22 | Shirik | wtf |
| 18:30.23 | foxlit | So, after a while of surveying |
| 18:30.27 | Shirik | I can't separate the cream from the cookie |
| 18:30.37 | sag_ich_nicht | oic |
| 18:30.44 | sag_ich_nicht | nvm then. |
| 18:30.47 | art3mis | you could |
| 18:30.51 | art3mis | you just dont wanna |
| 18:30.54 | sag_ich_nicht | you will not speak of ice cream soup art3mis |
| 18:31.04 | foxlit | Addon comm headers vs volume: DTMR 9048, KLHTM 4330, 3T 2965, CastCommLib 1713, SWSudX21 1280 |
| 18:31.09 | Shirik | KLHTM hehe |
| 18:31.14 | sag_ich_nicht | and you will not DARE speak of it's son, the carrot cake soup |
| 18:31.21 | Shirik | not as bad as I thought it was |
| 18:31.34 | sag_ich_nicht | we can not let anybody know of the act of DEFIANCE against NATURE that we have carried out |
| 18:31.35 | sag_ich_nicht | wait |
| 18:31.36 | sag_ich_nicht | hold |
| 18:31.41 | sag_ich_nicht | shit. |
| 18:31.44 | sag_ich_nicht | now they all know |
| 18:31.47 | sag_ich_nicht | ~whalenuke #wowi-lounge |
| 18:31.48 | purl | ACTION dons his radiation cloak and tinted glasses while a highly intelligent whale named Ray precipitates critical mass for uncontrolled nuclear fission around #wowi-lounge with his mind powers |
| 18:32.27 | Shirik | fission? bleh, so out-dated technology |
| 18:32.38 | Shirik | what happened to our H-bombs |
| 18:32.54 | Shirik | bai Cairenn|afk |
| 18:33.04 | Lunessa | Fission is easier and faster for explosives. |
| 18:33.25 | sag_ich_nicht | fuck h-bombs, WE'RE GONNA USE GRAVITYBOMBS :O |
| 18:33.39 | Cidan | lol |
| 18:33.43 | Lunessa | Not to mention dirtier. |
| 18:33.48 | Cidan | You didn't just say that Shirik |
| 18:33.49 | art3mis | i say we just use rick astley |
| 18:33.52 | Shirik | sure I did |
| 18:33.55 | sag_ich_nicht | ~rimshot |
| 18:33.55 | purl | ba-dum CHH |
| 18:34.23 | foxlit | And two players accounted for over 10k messages in the survey period |
| 18:34.26 | Cidan | Hydrogen bombs are a form of fission bombs |
| 18:34.28 | foxlit | Next player up sent 2k |
| 18:34.29 | Shirik | no they aren't |
| 18:34.31 | Cidan | ... |
| 18:34.33 | Shirik | they're definitely fusion |
| 18:34.34 | sag_ich_nicht | no wait |
| 18:34.38 | Cidan | Do you care to take a bet on that one? |
| 18:34.40 | Shirik | yes |
| 18:34.45 | Shirik | hydrogen cannot split apart |
| 18:34.48 | sag_ich_nicht | we are going to just throw Arkonbombs |
| 18:34.57 | Shirik | hydrogen already only has 1 proton |
| 18:35.02 | Shirik | wha'ts it going to split into, half of one? |
| 18:35.13 | sag_ich_nicht | ...QUARKS! |
| 18:35.16 | sag_ich_nicht | (lol) |
| 18:35.34 | Shirik | an H-bomb definitely uses nuclear fusion, since that's the only direction it can go |
| 18:35.36 | sag_ich_nicht | i mean okay, Arkonbombs might be a bit much, it'd destroy the whole planet, but wth >:O |
| 18:35.48 | sag_ich_nicht | a h-bomb uses fission to create fusion. |
| 18:36.01 | Shirik | and to quote the obvious expert on the subject, wikipedia (lol) |
| 18:36.02 | art3mis | The second basic type of nuclear weapon produces a large amount of its energy through nuclear fusion reactions, and can be over a thousand times more powerful than fission bombs as fusion reactions release much more energy per unit of mass than fission reactions. These are known as hydrogen bombs, H-bombs, thermonuclear bombs, or fusion bombs. |
| 18:36.03 | Shirik | "based on the same principle of the secondary. The energy released by the primary compresses the secondary through the concept of "radiation implosion", at which point it is heated and undergoes nuclear fusion." |
| 18:36.23 | sag_ich_nicht | god |
| 18:36.25 | Cidan | Actually, there are multiple configurations |
| 18:36.31 | sag_ich_nicht | ~wiki Hydrogeniumbomb |
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| 18:36.34 | Cidan | However, I lose. |
| 18:36.37 | Shirik | =) |
| 18:36.37 | sag_ich_nicht | again. |
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| 18:36.47 | Shirik | I shall now go eat, after having caused Cidan's failure once again <3 |
| 18:36.54 | Cidan | Fancy |
| 18:36.58 | Cidan | Verrrry fancy. |
| 18:38.14 | sag_ich_nicht | to get back to those arkonbombs |
| 18:39.02 | Cidan | ah right, hbombs use fission as a trigger |
| 18:39.04 | sag_ich_nicht | anyone have any? i'd like to reconsider a carrier in the supervillain business |
| 18:39.07 | Cidan | well, I'm going back to nap |
| 18:39.13 | sag_ich_nicht | which is what i just said cidan |
| 18:39.18 | sag_ich_nicht | [20:35] <sag_ich_nicht> a h-bomb uses fission to create fusion. |
| 18:39.39 | sag_ich_nicht | afk |
| 18:43.19 | ts|skrom | holy crap |
| 18:43.38 | ts|skrom | I'm reading the "druid wiki" in their macros section, I'm almost in tears at how bad this is. |
| 18:43.54 | ts|skrom | Quote: also: you can remove each "local" for more space} |
| 18:44.23 | Cidan | ... |
| 18:44.25 | Cidan | link? |
| 18:44.30 | ts|skrom | http://druid.wikispaces.com/Macro%27s+and+Addons |
| 18:45.09 | Lunessa | Sweet. New jumpdrive. |
| 18:48.20 | Cidan | http://z0r.de/?id=850 |
| 18:50.46 | deltron | that druid macro page is hard to read |
| 18:51.11 | Lin | im looking for good tool tips for paladin macros ;-) |
| 18:51.29 | Lin | remove tool from tooltips |
| 18:51.44 | ts|skrom | like what specifically lin? |
| 18:53.02 | Lin | ts|skrom: dunno really, im very new to wow.. I just want to read gurus tips.. to learn to build my own tools |
| 18:54.04 | Thrae | http://thraebot.pastey.net/72581 <-- various weights and measures used in ThraeBot Ratings, as well as the algorithm |
| 18:55.30 | Lin | Cidan: which language is this? btw, the music seems funny |
| 18:55.36 | ts|skrom | Well it depends really on how you place. I'm primarily a healer (who am I kidding, that's all I do when I play) so my macros are based on that |
| 18:55.43 | deltron | http://www.wowwiki.com/Useful_macros/Paladin |
| 18:55.44 | deltron | ? |
| 18:56.00 | Cidan | oh man |
| 18:56.23 | Cidan | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Loituma_Girl |
| 18:56.35 | Cidan | Gotta read up on that link Lin |
| 18:56.38 | Lin | ts|skrom: I want to see how macors are build. what each one does, how can be put together. things like that. |
| 18:56.42 | Lin | Cidan: omw |
| 18:56.51 | Kaydeethree | loituma, haven't heard that in a while. |
| 18:56.59 | ts|skrom | Oh, then just go to the ui forum and read cog|work's sticky |
| 18:57.04 | Cidan | and it's Finnish |
| 18:57.15 | Cidan | though it doesn't mean anything |
| 18:57.33 | cog|work | Lin: http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=96143900&sid=1 |
| 18:58.53 | Lin | good links |
| 18:58.55 | Lin | thank you |
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| 18:59.44 | Cidan- | ..The boy had taken the power supply and wrapped it in plastic and tape. In an attempt to cool it off, he submerged it into a pan of water with the cord still plugged in. |
| 18:59.47 | Cidan- | ... |
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| 19:00.02 | ts|skrom | Darwin Award? |
| 19:00.13 | Cidan- | no, almost |
| 19:00.14 | Cidan- | but no |
| 19:00.24 | Codan | er |
| 19:01.47 | Cidan | God, I learned like |
| 19:01.53 | Cidan | I think before I even went to school |
| 19:01.58 | Cidan | water + electricity == bad |
| 19:02.02 | Cidan | kid was 14. |
| 19:02.48 | cog|work | was it an xbox power supply? |
| 19:03.29 | Cidan | 360 |
| 19:03.36 | cog|work | HA! |
| 19:03.38 | Lunessa | brb... cake. |
| 19:03.39 | cog|work | explains a lot |
| 19:03.47 | Cidan | Delicious cake... |
| 19:04.12 | cog|work | Both the need to cool it off and the intelligence of the user... |
| 19:05.11 | ts|skrom | Is cladhaire or someone more familiar with clique then I around? |
| 19:05.25 | cladhaire | cladhaire is sitting right here. |
| 19:05.44 | Cidan | Well, I think Shirik knows more about Clique than cladhaire TBH |
| 19:05.48 | Cidan | I KID, I KID! |
| 19:06.16 | ts|skrom | Fantastic: My question is this. In order to get my mouse buttons 4 and 5 to work, I had to use UberOptions to make the PC think that button 4 = F12 and button5 = F11, and my macros in game are bound as such |
| 19:06.32 | ts|skrom | I"m assuming then that clique and this arrangment are incompatible? |
| 19:06.47 | cladhaire | Clique can only work with mouse buttons that wow recognizes. |
| 19:07.00 | ts|skrom | Thanks, that's what I was sensing. |
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| 19:09.16 | Lunessa | False alarm on the cake. The birthday person in question left in a huff, so cake is delayed a day. |
| 19:09.18 | ts|skrom | I've not tried it out, and it looks neat, but my playstyle emphasises buttons 3,4 and 5 for quick spell access, especially for heals/cleansing |
| 19:10.01 | ts|skrom | is it emphasizes? something doesn't look right, but I'm kinda sleepy |
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| 19:12.18 | Cidan | I think I'm going to go level |
| 19:12.21 | Cidan | no code for today |
| 19:14.18 | Lunessa | lies |
| 19:16.28 | Shirik | he needs to level |
| 19:16.31 | Shirik | I mean come on look at this |
| 19:16.37 | Shirik | !vs us drenden kimina us eredar cidan |
| 19:16.42 | ThraeBot | Shirik: Kimina vs Cidan! Kimina has +6 lvls on Cidan (70 vs 64); A L70 priest and a L64 paladin square off!; 23/38/0 vs 9/32/14; Kimina wins by 616 TBRs! ***OWNED!*** |
| 19:16.48 | Shirik | !vs us eredar shirik us eredar cidan |
| 19:16.53 | ThraeBot | Shirik: Shirik vs Cidan! Shirik has +6 lvls on Cidan (70 vs 64); A L70 hunter and a L64 paladin square off!; 3/50/8 vs 9/32/14; Shirik wins by 1324 TBRs! ***OWNED TO THE EXTREME!!*** |
| 19:16.54 | Cidan | I hate you so much. |
| 19:17.02 | Shirik | owned to the extreme, even |
| 19:17.15 | Shirik | let him level :) |
| 19:17.37 | Lunessa | !vs us drenden kimina use kirin tor lunessa |
| 19:17.51 | Lunessa | bah |
| 19:18.00 | Thrae | I just added more emphasis on level differences in !vs |
| 19:18.04 | Lunessa | Typing pwns me |
| 19:18.11 | Lunessa | !vs us drenden kimina us kirin tor lunessa |
| 19:18.11 | ThraeBot | Lunessa: kimina vs lunessa! It's a showdown! ...But wait, what's this?! lunessa always haxs, so wins automatically. |
| 19:18.13 | Shirik | Thrae: I still don't think Kimina can beat Shirik though :/ |
| 19:18.21 | Shirik | !vs us drenden kimina us eredar shirik |
| 19:18.23 | Lunessa | LOL |
| 19:18.26 | ThraeBot | Shirik: Kimina vs Shirik! A L70 priest and a L70 hunter square off!; 23/38/0 vs 3/50/8; Kimina wins by 471 TBRs! ***OWNED!*** |
| 19:18.35 | Shirik | Kimina can't do an ounce of damage |
| 19:18.55 | Shirik | no real way to check though |
| 19:19.00 | art3mis | !vs us echo isle rozalyn us eredar shirik |
| 19:19.04 | ThraeBot | art3mis: Armory parse error. You must have screwed up the command. You suck. |
| 19:19.17 | art3mis | !vs us echo isles rozalyn us eredar shirik |
| 19:19.20 | Thrae | Shirik: Have you dueled Disc/Holy Priests before? |
| 19:19.22 | ThraeBot | art3mis: Rozalyn vs Shirik! A L70 priest and a L70 hunter square off!; 9/0/52 vs 3/50/8; Rozalyn wins by 511 TBRs! ***OWNED!*** |
| 19:19.26 | Shirik | not entirely |
| 19:19.37 | Shirik | I have a few times |
| 19:19.42 | Thrae | Hunters may need to be buffed |
| 19:19.45 | art3mis | of course i win... hunters are priest food |
| 19:19.47 | Shirik | but I mean, Kimina doesn't have any resilience, is entirely raid holy, has like no hp |
| 19:19.57 | art3mis | !vs us echo isles rozalyn us eredar cidan |
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| 19:20.00 | ThraeBot | art3mis: Rozalyn vs Cidan! Rozalyn has +6 lvls on Cidan (70 vs 64); A L70 priest and a L64 paladin square off!; 9/0/52 vs 9/32/14; Rozalyn wins by 656 TBRs! ***OWNED!*** |
| 19:20.34 | art3mis | !vs us echo isles rozalyn us eredar kimina |
| 19:20.38 | ThraeBot | art3mis: Armory parse error. You must have screwed up the command. You suck. |
| 19:20.50 | art3mis | !vs us echo isles rozalyn us drenden kimina |
| 19:20.51 | ThraeBot | Sorry art3mis, you must wait 47 seconds before making another request. |
| 19:20.55 | art3mis | nooooooooooooooooo |
| 19:21.05 | Thrae | Shirik: http://thraebot.pastey.net/72581 <-- larger numbers mean it's a more important stat. and note hunter vs mage == hunter vs priest right now. |
| 19:21.07 | [Ammo] | ***OWNED!*** |
| 19:21.14 | [Ammo] | :) |
| 19:21.21 | Valaron|Work | Hmm |
| 19:21.24 | Shirik | I just think I could probably about 3 shot kimina |
| 19:21.26 | Shirik | without a problem |
| 19:21.29 | Shirik | is all I'm saying |
| 19:21.35 | Thrae | Shirik: Well tell me what's wrong with my weights then :D |
| 19:21.41 | art3mis | !vs us echo isles rozalyn us drenden kimina |
| 19:21.46 | ThraeBot | art3mis: Rozalyn vs Kimina! Two 70 priests square off!; 9/0/52 vs 23/38/0; Rozalyn wins by 40 TBRs! |
| 19:21.55 | art3mis | and see thats not right either |
| 19:21.59 | Shirik | you didn't even consider intellect, for one |
| 19:22.00 | Shirik | for hunters |
| 19:22.11 | art3mis | i would run out of mana before kim did |
| 19:22.12 | Shirik | for MM hunters, intellect is a big deal |
| 19:22.26 | [Ammo] | is defense still factored in heavily -> melee > casters per def |
| 19:22.30 | Thrae | Shirik: I consider Mana Regen and MP4 |
| 19:22.36 | Shirik | right, but that's not the same |
| 19:22.39 | [Ammo] | or armor etc rather |
| 19:22.43 | Shirik | intellect translates into AP fo rme |
| 19:23.02 | Thrae | Shirik: I also consider MP |
| 19:23.14 | Thrae | Shirik: Right now the Hunter MP weight is 0.5, should it be higher? |
| 19:23.24 | Shirik | well I think... it's going to be hard |
| 19:23.29 | Shirik | because intellect means nothing for anyone who's not a MM |
| 19:24.47 | Thrae | Shirik: Does Melee DPS ever really matter to hunters? |
| 19:24.54 | Shirik | rarely |
| 19:25.07 | Shirik | occasionally I'll get a nice 1k raptor strike crit while trying to get a wing clip in |
| 19:25.10 | Shirik | but it's not a big deal |
| 19:25.26 | Shirik | But see, the problem I think is that you're completely skipping one of my most important stats :P |
| 19:25.41 | Shirik | brb |
| 19:26.38 | Thrae | !mload armorystats |
| 19:26.39 | ThraeBot | Loaded [armorystats] |
| 19:27.51 | cog|work | is there a quick'n'dirty way to make it so the mail box & social pane can be open at the same time? |
| 19:27.59 | cog|work | just something i can do in a chat line |
| 19:28.37 | ts|skrom | Thrae: explain this for me? |
| 19:28.45 | ts|skrom | !vs us uldum treston us uldum rho |
| 19:28.53 | ThraeBot | ts|skrom: Treston vs Rho! Treston has +1 lvls on Rho (63 vs 62); A L63 paladin and a L62 warlock square off!; 44/10/0 vs 36/17/0; Treston wins by nan TBRs! |
| 19:28.58 | ts|skrom | nm |
| 19:29.05 | zenzelezz | "nan" |
| 19:29.17 | ts|skrom | I just did the same thing in pm and it came up with: 10ts|skrom: treston vs rho! It's a showdown! ...But wait, what's this?! treston wins by 6721406 TBRs! Wow, that's GOTTA hurt.01 |
| 19:30.06 | ts|skrom | I don't think my pally could beat my lock btw ^^ |
| 19:31.28 | Thrae | !mload armorystats |
| 19:31.29 | ThraeBot | Loaded [armorystats] |
| 19:31.48 | Thrae | OK, fixed |
| 19:31.49 | PP|WoW | hmmm |
| 19:32.06 | PP|WoW | i suspect the same patch to be downloaded and instaled time and time again |
| 19:32.12 | PP|WoW | cauze this is rediciolous |
| 19:32.23 | Kaydeethree | PTR or live wow? |
| 19:32.25 | art3mis | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9qTxW41p1rw&NR=1 |
| 19:32.27 | art3mis | bahahahaha |
| 19:32.31 | art3mis | i want a mage now |
| 19:32.43 | PP|WoW | ptr? |
| 19:32.46 | Kaydeethree | 1-pull cath runs are fun |
| 19:32.56 | Thrae | !vs us uldum treston us uldum rho |
| 19:32.58 | Kaydeethree | don't worry. what patch is it having you redownload? |
| 19:33.01 | ThraeBot | Thrae: Treston vs Rho! Treston has +1 lvls on Rho (63 vs 62); A L63 paladin and a L62 warlock square off!; 44/10/0 vs 36/17/0; Rho wins by 357 TBRs! |
| 19:33.21 | ts|skrom | haha |
| 19:33.21 | PP|WoW | 2.1.0 |
| 19:33.34 | ts|skrom | Did you weight something differently? |
| 19:33.35 | PP|WoW | witch it have sayed it have been doing many times |
| 19:33.35 | Kaydeethree | the full patch? are you getting errors when you try to install it? |
| 19:33.41 | PP|WoW | yes |
| 19:33.44 | Thrae | ts|skrom: No, just fixed a bug |
| 19:33.55 | ts|skrom | gotcha, I knew she'd win ^^ |
| 19:34.00 | PP|WoW | im getting a bloddy error about uninstal.xml |
| 19:34.03 | sag_ich_nicht | [21:32] <Kaydeethree> PTR or live wow? <--PP is a first time WoW player. |
| 19:34.11 | Kaydeethree | I noticed |
| 19:34.34 | PP|WoW | i tried repairing to, but it just seems to be stuck |
| 19:34.41 | sag_ich_nicht | PP|WoW disable UAC. |
| 19:34.55 | PP|WoW | vac? |
| 19:35.03 | sag_ich_nicht | uac, not vac. |
| 19:35.23 | sag_ich_nicht | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_Account_Control |
| 19:35.35 | Thrae | ts|skrom: Paladin vs Warlock == (Paladin weights) AP=4, HP=3,Mana=2,ManaRegen=2,MP5=3,MeleeCrit=2.5,MeleeDPS=3.5,MeleeHit=0.5,Resil=3,Healing=2,SpellCrit=4,SpellDmg&Healing=4,SpellDmg=2,SpellHit=0.5,HolyDmg=3 |
| 19:35.53 | sag_ich_nicht | also, make sure your windows vista user account has administrator priviledges. |
| 19:36.31 | PP|WoW | it does have that |
| 19:36.40 | PP|WoW | but how do i remove that? |
| 19:37.20 | sag_ich_nicht | you don't remove admin priviledges if you have them D: |
| 19:37.36 | PP|WoW | remove vac |
| 19:37.38 | PP|WoW | :p |
| 19:37.45 | sag_ich_nicht | NOT Vac |
| 19:37.48 | sag_ich_nicht | Uac |
| 19:37.49 | sag_ich_nicht | geez |
| 19:37.52 | PP|WoW | lol |
| 19:37.54 | PP|WoW | uac |
| 19:37.55 | PP|WoW | ok |
| 19:37.56 | sag_ich_nicht | :D |
| 19:38.38 | sag_ich_nicht | is your vista localized to norwegian or not? |
| 19:38.52 | PP|WoW | yeah it is |
| 19:39.03 | Cidan | Please, for the sake of the internet, do not run your account under administrator priviledges unless you know what you're doing |
| 19:39.14 | Cidan | I don't need more "HOT PEN15 SEX" emails |
| 19:39.17 | ScytheBlade1 | Even then, if you know what you're doing, you're doing it wrong. |
| 19:39.20 | PP|WoW | cidan, i somewhat know what im doing, lol |
| 19:39.21 | PP|WoW | :P |
| 19:39.28 | sag_ich_nicht | PP, no, you don't. at all. |
| 19:39.41 | PP|WoW | i know enough to get by :P |
| 19:40.05 | sag_ich_nicht | which is nothing. |
| 19:40.59 | PP|WoW | just hope i get this thing to work soon |
| 19:41.06 | ScytheBlade1 | http://worsethanfailure.com/Articles/Good-Answer-Perhaps-TOO-Good.aspx <-- lol |
| 19:41.33 | sag_ich_nicht | now, Cidan, please, for the sake of my mom, shut your failmouth, or i'll plug it with my foot, because vista is a retarded piece of CRAP that won't do what PP wants it to do without me having to take 5 hours explaining user permissions to him and the whole concept of ACLs |
| 19:41.34 | sag_ich_nicht | :O |
| 19:41.35 | sag_ich_nicht | anyway |
| 19:41.51 | sag_ich_nicht | PP|WoW: http://www.petri.co.il/disable_uac_in_windows_vista.htm |
| 19:41.54 | sag_ich_nicht | try this :P |
| 19:42.00 | ScytheBlade1 | Don't blame Vista. Blame the app developers who have no clue what "multi user" means. |
| 19:42.08 | Cidan | Seriously. |
| 19:42.18 | *** join/#wowi-lounge krka (n=krka@c83-250-40-128.bredband.comhem.se) |
| 19:42.23 | Shirik | what's multi-user? |
| 19:42.23 | Cidan | I don't blame *nix because some POS software needs to run as root all the time for something simple. |
| 19:42.33 | sag_ich_nicht | ScytheBlade1 this isn't a multiuser issue, this is an issue with the admin account not having admin rights. |
| 19:42.36 | Shirik | Is that that thing where you have to make sure not too many people send you tables to decode over the addon channel? |
| 19:42.52 | ScytheBlade1 | sag_ich_nicht, that relates directly to Vista's philosophy concerning multi-user access. I could go on for hours. |
| 19:43.13 | sag_ich_nicht | Shirik i hate you. |
| 19:43.13 | Shirik | on a more serious note, I might consider going to vista |
| 19:43.22 | sag_ich_nicht | and |
| 19:43.26 | Shirik | no good reason really |
| 19:43.30 | Shirik | but I hear VS 2003 doesn't work with it |
| 19:43.34 | Shirik | confirm/deny? |
| 19:43.42 | Lunessa | Actually, make your life easier - just put wow in a directory OUTSIDE the Program Files heirarchy. |
| 19:43.44 | Shirik | (no pun intended) |
| 19:43.46 | sag_ich_nicht | you should totally ace RDX, not that you are working on conspiracy, you could take the time to port it, i mean, it's a really good idea. |
| 19:43.52 | ScytheBlade1 | Can't confirm, I lack Vista. |
| 19:43.52 | sag_ich_nicht | Lunessa: it's already outside |
| 19:43.56 | ScytheBlade1 | Give me money and I'll tell you. ;) |
| 19:44.32 | Shirik | for the record, though, Thrae I do have to say |
| 19:44.38 | Shirik | my priest does arenas and is extremely viable |
| 19:44.42 | Shirik | so perhaps I just underestimate her |
| 19:45.44 | Cidan | I have 2005 from my uncle |
| 19:45.47 | Cidan | it works in Vista |
| 19:45.52 | Cidan | not sure about 2003 |
| 19:46.06 | PP|WoW | sag_ich_nicht : disabled |
| 19:46.16 | PP|WoW | so should i jsut rebot and try updatying it? |
| 19:46.19 | Shirik | well |
| 19:46.23 | Shirik | I /did/ just get the 2k8 beta |
| 19:46.26 | Shirik | that should at least work in vista |
| 19:46.30 | sag_ich_nicht | PP|WoW yes. |
| 19:46.45 | ts|skrom | I had a joke about multi-user and group sex but I feel the time has passed :( |
| 19:46.54 | ScytheBlade1 | lol |
| 19:47.04 | Shirik | it's ok, you could go to #lua and say |
| 19:47.06 | ScytheBlade1 | Anything related to privilage isolation? ;P |
| 19:47.10 | Shirik | I mean, right now they're talking about things like |
| 19:47.14 | Shirik | 152:452:08 12paranoid__12 double d; ? |
| 19:47.25 | Kaydeethree | hah |
| 19:48.34 | ts|skrom | I'm thinking of a new ad campaign for MS. Three guys sitting around sharing a needle : Bad MultiUser, 3 guys sitting around a PC running windows vista : Good MultiUser -- Flashes Windows logo |
| 19:48.57 | Kaydeethree | lmao |
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| 19:49.12 | ScytheBlade1 | lol |
| 19:49.48 | sag_ich_nicht | lol. |
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| 19:51.06 | Industrial | I multiusered ur mom |
| 19:51.12 | Mr_Rabies2 | ice burnnn |
| 19:51.13 | Industrial | so anyway, nice weather today |
| 19:51.25 | art3mis | so did the mortician industrial |
| 19:52.12 | art3mis | mmmm 64 slices of american cheese |
| 19:52.14 | ts|skrom | how important is nature's swiftness to a healing build? |
| 19:52.18 | ts|skrom | druid speaking that is |
| 19:53.42 | art3mis | http://www.myspace.com/coriyarckin <-- shes playing with me talk pretty tonight, wonder if i should go waste 10 bucks |
| 19:54.27 | Industrial | another druid question: natures grasp - costs mana? |
| 19:54.47 | Industrial | nm it never says so in the talent panels |
| 19:54.53 | Industrial | (for talent skills) |
| 19:54.56 | art3mis | hrm music sucks but shes not bad to look at ;P |
| 19:57.28 | ts|skrom | yes it does |
| 19:57.39 | ts|skrom | I mean yes it says so at least on wow head for Omen of Clarity |
| 19:58.05 | ts|skrom | and swiftmend |
| 19:58.15 | ts|skrom | and the forms |
| 19:58.45 | Mr_Rabies2 | it costs the same amount of mana as rooting |
| 19:58.51 | Mr_Rabies2 | wait |
| 19:58.53 | Mr_Rabies2 | i guess not |
| 19:58.54 | Mr_Rabies2 | it used to |
| 19:59.01 | Mr_Rabies2 | not anymore |
| 19:59.04 | ts|skrom | neat |
| 19:59.33 | Mr_Rabies2 | i guess they removed it when they let it be usable in forms |
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| 20:00.02 | art3mis | i'd like to know how a bear can cast |
| 20:00.09 | art3mis | or a cat or a bird |
| 20:00.12 | ts|skrom | seriously? I may need to rethink that |
| 20:00.16 | Mr_Rabies2 | bird can't i don't think |
| 20:00.24 | ts|skrom | one talent point isn't much, I always liked that talent |
| 20:00.32 | Mr_Rabies2 | art3mis what have i told you about using real life situations for balancing game mechanics? |
| 20:00.36 | art3mis | you can bird form while falling catcha? |
| 20:00.42 | Industrial | can you go to bird form when falling? |
| 20:00.46 | Kaydeethree | yes |
| 20:00.48 | Mr_Rabies2 | yes, as long as we're not in combat |
| 20:00.52 | Industrial | new sport! |
| 20:00.57 | Mr_Rabies2 | it's not new :P |
| 20:00.57 | Industrial | lowest drop wins |
| 20:00.59 | Kaydeethree | that's the whole premise of the zangarmarsh epic flight form quest |
| 20:01.00 | Mr_Rabies2 | it's pretty old |
| 20:01.01 | Industrial | old new! |
| 20:01.10 | Mr_Rabies2 | druids have been throwing themselves at the ground for fun and profit for months now |
| 20:01.20 | Industrial | well, im laggin behind |
| 20:01.21 | art3mis | Mr_Rabies2: im talking purely d&d rules here ;P they have no fingers and thumbs! |
| 20:01.24 | Kaydeethree | but can they throw themselves at the ground and miss? |
| 20:01.25 | Mr_Rabies2 | and rawrbombing |
| 20:01.35 | Mr_Rabies2 | i have, once before |
| 20:01.44 | Mr_Rabies2 | threw myself at the ground and went straight through |
| 20:01.47 | ts|skrom | don't need fingers or thumbs for somatic components if you have the Natural Spell feat |
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| 20:02.20 | art3mis | you'd need the verbal ability to articulate as well |
| 20:02.22 | Mr_Rabies2 | man |
| 20:02.27 | Mr_Rabies2 | we can D: |
| 20:02.32 | ts|skrom | Natural Spell covers that |
| 20:02.36 | art3mis | haha skrom |
| 20:02.38 | Mr_Rabies2 | you can talk to npcs and players perfectly fine in forms |
| 20:02.43 | art3mis | oh alright then ;P |
| 20:02.50 | Mr_Rabies2 | we couldn't use to talk to npcs |
| 20:02.51 | Mr_Rabies2 | that |
| 20:02.53 | Mr_Rabies2 | was fucking annoying |
| 20:02.57 | art3mis | ya know what really bugs me most about wow |
| 20:03.01 | Mr_Rabies2 | to have to shift out to check mail, talk to npcs, etc |
| 20:03.03 | art3mis | is that when you die you're a ghost |
| 20:03.07 | Mr_Rabies2 | we still do to open chests and stuff |
| 20:03.10 | art3mis | whos incapable of running through objects |
| 20:03.16 | Mr_Rabies2 | some objects, art3mis |
| 20:03.18 | Mr_Rabies2 | like doors |
| 20:03.28 | Industrial | art3mis: lol |
| 20:03.32 | ts|skrom | http://www.behemoth3.com/sword/feats/NATURAL_SPELL.php ^^ |
| 20:03.34 | art3mis | im thinking more along the lines of trees and fences and houses n stuff |
| 20:03.42 | Mr_Rabies2 | i should be able to detonate |
| 20:03.44 | Mr_Rabies2 | >:[ |
| 20:03.47 | Mr_Rabies2 | i'm a night elf |
| 20:04.02 | Mr_Rabies2 | i should be able to get all my night elf bretheren and detonate to take out world mobs |
| 20:04.07 | Industrial | gaybomb? |
| 20:04.10 | ts|skrom | heck ya |
| 20:04.11 | art3mis | you boviously dont have enough "gay" in you to explode |
| 20:04.15 | Industrial | woot |
| 20:04.21 | Mr_Rabies2 | night elves aren't gay :[ |
| 20:04.23 | Mr_Rabies2 | blood elves |
| 20:04.23 | Mr_Rabies2 | well |
| 20:04.25 | Industrial | are so |
| 20:04.26 | art3mis | go change yer tabard ;) |
| 20:04.33 | Mr_Rabies2 | that's too easy to make a joke of |
| 20:04.53 | Mr_Rabies2 | my tabard is cenarion expedition, i'm never changing that >:[ |
| 20:04.56 | Mr_Rabies2 | droods represent |
| 20:05.01 | art3mis | its too bad hey didnt make all the blood elves in azshara horde friends |
| 20:05.01 | Industrial | lol |
| 20:05.14 | Mr_Rabies2 | they're kael supporters, art3mis |
| 20:05.23 | Mr_Rabies2 | i guess you don't know you're not one at the time though... |
| 20:05.23 | art3mis | oh and i noticed that the alliance are just ignorant blood thirsty barbarians |
| 20:05.33 | Mr_Rabies2 | maybe they're not kael supporters but direct burning legion or something |
| 20:05.46 | art3mis | the draeni wanna kill the blood elves "all" blood elves |
| 20:05.55 | Mr_Rabies2 | the humans are blood thirsty barbarians |
| 20:05.58 | art3mis | the blood elf starter quests we dont even know draeni exist |
| 20:06.05 | Mr_Rabies2 | the draenei have temper problems when the naaru aren't around |
| 20:06.34 | Mr_Rabies2 | plus they just crashed in a huge wing of the tempest keep |
| 20:06.41 | Mr_Rabies2 | that they were fleeing from kael's elves from |
| 20:07.18 | Mr_Rabies2 | they're not likely to be too happy with the blood elves |
| 20:07.49 | art3mis | but you'd think with all the killing of blood elves the be's would say something about them |
| 20:07.52 | art3mis | nope not a word |
| 20:08.04 | art3mis | we're too busy fighting the undead |
| 20:08.04 | Mr_Rabies2 | because all the BEs in azeroth are cut off from kael |
| 20:08.07 | Mr_Rabies2 | except the higher ups |
| 20:08.19 | Mr_Rabies2 | they get no word from him except what the higher ups want them to think |
| 20:08.19 | art3mis | who are also our friends |
| 20:08.40 | Mr_Rabies2 | the forsaken are only your 'friends' because of sylvanas |
| 20:08.41 | art3mis | not to mention the ambiguopus hetro sexuality |
| 20:08.50 | Mr_Rabies2 | and it's a pretty shaky situation with them even |
| 20:08.51 | art3mis | growing up blood elf is tough man |
| 20:09.01 | Mr_Rabies2 | no one trusts the blood elves because they fuck everything up they touch |
| 20:09.05 | Mr_Rabies2 | fucking magic abusers >:[ |
| 20:09.10 | Industrial | blood elf street cred yo |
| 20:09.18 | Kaydeethree | that's a fairly common elf trait, tbqh |
| 20:09.21 | art3mis | Long Live Lady Sylvanus! |
| 20:09.28 | Mr_Rabies2 | the highborne fucked things up before |
| 20:09.34 | Mr_Rabies2 | and the highborne later became blood elves |
| 20:09.37 | art3mis | shes my fav boss btw |
| 20:09.50 | Mr_Rabies2 | i once hit pounce on her |
| 20:09.51 | art3mis | watching her summon gobs of mobs to defend her is great |
| 20:09.52 | Mr_Rabies2 | solo |
| 20:09.53 | Mr_Rabies2 | never again |
| 20:10.07 | jme | the undercity boss? |
| 20:10.12 | art3mis | cairne is weak though |
| 20:10.14 | art3mis | yeah |
| 20:10.15 | Mr_Rabies2 | she blinked, summoned an army of skeletons, then killed me |
| 20:10.20 | jme | haha |
| 20:10.20 | art3mis | haha |
| 20:10.21 | art3mis | yeah |
| 20:10.23 | Mr_Rabies2 | i hear the gnome leader has a flamethrower |
| 20:10.27 | Mr_Rabies2 | but i haven't seen it |
| 20:10.34 | art3mis | we had a raid come to uc a couple of times after the buffed the bosses |
| 20:10.48 | art3mis | there were like 10 of us against the 40 alliance raid |
| 20:10.58 | art3mis | we just waited in sylvanus' room |
| 20:11.03 | Industrial | aoe aoe aoe |
| 20:11.12 | art3mis | less than a minute the threat was over |
| 20:11.18 | Industrial | ha |
| 20:11.21 | art3mis | close to 70 skeletons |
| 20:11.29 | art3mis | not to mention vari and syl playing |
| 20:11.42 | art3mis | and the royal guards |
| 20:12.38 | art3mis | i dont think anyone has gotten clsoe to thrall on any server i've been on |
| 20:13.19 | Mr_Rabies2 | i solo dance raided ogrimmar at level 33 |
| 20:13.23 | Mr_Rabies2 | lemme see if i can find the screen |
| 20:14.01 | Mr_Rabies2 | this was back in late 04, early 05 |
| 20:14.26 | Mr_Rabies2 | probably near christmas |
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| 20:17.07 | art3mis | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IJpZaip2QjQ&mode=related&search= |
| 20:17.18 | art3mis | best cut scene ever |
| 20:18.13 | Mr_Rabies2 | i dunno |
| 20:18.28 | Mr_Rabies2 | the ingame one with arthas and illidan was pretty epic for an ingame one |
| 20:19.02 | Mr_Rabies2 | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eB82pF_64mw |
| 20:19.15 | art3mis | grom > * ;) |
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| 20:20.58 | art3mis | hehe the comment of "why didnt arthas loot him" is pretty funny though |
| 20:21.31 | ts|skrom | whoa |
| 20:21.39 | ts|skrom | I thought lifebloom was a little gimmicky |
| 20:21.45 | ts|skrom | but then I actually noticed the mana cost |
| 20:21.47 | ts|skrom | that's awesome |
| 20:21.52 | JoshBork1 | lol |
| 20:22.07 | alestane | So we've got one topic running in the forum and I'm trying to figure out if I'm dealing with a bug/limitation of the game or user error...anyone have any experience with the specifier [target=targettargettarget]? Are we mistyping it or something? |
| 20:23.12 | Mr_Rabies | http://img511.imageshack.us/img511/4489/wowscrnshot010405224359hw6.jpg |
| 20:23.18 | Mr_Rabies | solo dance raid on orgrimmar |
| 20:24.45 | jme | art3mis: where is that cutscene from? |
| 20:24.53 | Mr_Rabies2 | wc3 |
| 20:24.58 | jme | ah |
| 20:25.02 | Mr_Rabies2 | orc campaign |
| 20:25.03 | Mr_Rabies2 | ending |
| 20:25.14 | Kaydeethree | http://www.wowwiki.com/Quest:Dragonmaw_Race:_Wing_Commander_Mulverick#Description |
| 20:25.31 | Mr_Rabies2 | warcraft 2 has a pretty cool opening if you put an oldass game filter on your eyes |
| 20:25.32 | Kaydeethree | suggestions? trying to decide whether he's bitching about the alliance or the horde for "their base" and "relief hut" |
| 20:26.06 | Mr_Rabies2 | http://youtube.com/watch?v=ZU-n8UZM5Cc |
| 20:26.40 | Lunessa | alestane: that looks right to me. |
| 20:27.34 | alestane | Thanks Lunessa...that's the trouble, it looks right to everyone but the user vows it doesn't work...I gave him some test scripts to try and narrow down the problem. |
| 20:27.39 | art3mis | oh rumor has it they're working on a warcraft movie too btw |
| 20:27.55 | Lunessa | Is that the PW:S thing? |
| 20:28.03 | alestane | That's not rumor, they had panels on that at BlixxCon didn't they? |
| 20:28.06 | Mr_Rabies2 | they are Arrowmaster |
| 20:28.08 | Mr_Rabies2 | er |
| 20:28.11 | Mr_Rabies2 | art3mis |
| 20:28.13 | alestane | And yes, Lunessa, it is. |
| 20:28.16 | Mr_Rabies2 | they had a panel, yeah |
| 20:28.28 | Lunessa | PW:S can only be cast on members of your group or raid. |
| 20:28.59 | alestane | Why would it default to him then, unlesss he's missing the fact that it's HIM who's pulling aggro? |
| 20:29.42 | Lunessa | Target of target's target, right? |
| 20:29.56 | alestane | Oh wait, there's that "default" target glitch in macros until 2.2. |
| 20:30.10 | ts|skrom | target (mob) target (player) target (mob) |
| 20:30.18 | alestane | Yeah, he's targeting the tank, the tank's targeting the mob, he wants to shield whoever the mob's targeting. |
| 20:30.27 | ts|skrom | ah |
| 20:30.41 | alestane | In case the mob gets pulled off the tank. |
| 20:30.53 | Mr_Rabies2 | http://youtube.com/watch?v=eHZJNX2DA60&mode=related&search= |
| 20:30.55 | alestane | Personally, I just target the mob and cast everything on its target anyway. |
| 20:30.56 | ts|skrom | I would wager then that it's not working because his tank sucks and isn't targeting anything |
| 20:31.00 | ts|skrom | but then I'm jaded about tanks |
| 20:31.03 | Mr_Rabies2 | is that the skull of gul'dan? :O |
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| 20:31.49 | ts|skrom | looks like it |
| 20:32.04 | Lunessa | alestane: It'll work with [target=targettartetarget] PEBKAC |
| 20:32.31 | alestane | misspellings aside. |
| 20:33.03 | Lunessa | yeah, I'm a shitty typist. |
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| 20:33.31 | Wraanger | heyaz |
| 20:33.47 | art3mis | i actually started playing frozen throne again |
| 20:34.01 | alestane | So, he needs to make sure that his target and target's target both have targets, and that the mob isn't getting pulled off by someone who's outside his group; those sound like the two biggest pitfalls. |
| 20:34.14 | Lunessa | I prefer forum postings so I can triple check something before hitting send |
| 20:34.19 | Mr_Rabies2 | whoa |
| 20:34.20 | Mr_Rabies2 | http://youtube.com/watch?v=8CRawxPZNbk |
| 20:34.24 | Mr_Rabies2 | this is really well done for the time |
| 20:34.29 | Lunessa | group/raid, but yeah. |
| 20:34.34 | Mr_Rabies2 | also, sargeras = diablo apparently O_o |
| 20:35.29 | Lunessa | I'm greatly amused by all the 2.2 UI threads when the current release is still 2.1.3 |
| 20:35.44 | ScytheBlade1 | Same |
| 20:35.49 | Suntiger | mr_Rabies what are you talking about |
| 20:35.54 | art3mis | if thats supposed to be sargeras, it aint, the books clearly stated and i quote "the massive demon walked slowly out of the portal...his eyes pitch red and glowing, his body, searing black, and rough as a dulled blade" that CANNOT be him, unless its diablo, then im happy :D |
| 20:35.55 | alestane | They added that restriction to Soulstones too, if I SS someone then drop group they lose the soulstone buff. |
| 20:35.57 | Suntiger | sargeras doesn't even look anything like diablo |
| 20:36.00 | sag_ich_nicht | Lunessa you'd rather have incompatible addons when the patch hits? |
| 20:36.19 | Mr_Rabies2 | he has big wings and horns and is red |
| 20:36.21 | Mr_Rabies2 | that's pretty close |
| 20:36.36 | Suntiger | diablo has no wings |
| 20:36.43 | art3mis | sarg is black |
| 20:36.44 | alestane | I don't think that's quite what Lunessa meant, there are a lot of people posting their 2.2 ui setup already. |
| 20:36.50 | Lunessa | No, people are posting current set ups as 2.2 ui set ups. |
| 20:36.50 | Suntiger | diablo is red and his horns are black |
| 20:37.18 | art3mis | wotlk should be good though |
| 20:37.30 | Mr_Rabies2 | i thought diablo had wings |
| 20:37.31 | Mr_Rabies2 | hrm |
| 20:37.37 | alestane | Of course, it looks like we may be within a couple weeks of 2.2. |
| 20:37.45 | Mr_Rabies2 | art3mis, hes red in that cutscene |
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| 20:38.43 | jaminguy | hello |
| 20:38.50 | art3mis | yeah but he shouldnt be ;P |
| 20:38.59 | art3mis | so that cant possibly be him ;P |
| 20:39.01 | jaminguy | anybody know about addon dev? |
| 20:39.10 | art3mis | that was diablo checking out this "warcraft thing" |
| 20:39.14 | alestane | The part that's driving me nuts is now Slouken is dangling 2.3 updates in front of my nose and 2.2 is still in the PTR phase. |
| 20:39.18 | art3mis | that was diablo checking out this "warcraft thing" he keeps hearing about |
| 20:39.38 | jaminguy | is it possible to access luacom? |
| 20:39.51 | Shirik|Fooding | luacom being |
| 20:40.01 | alestane | The website for Lua is lua.org, I believe. |
| 20:40.16 | jaminguy | allows you to interface with windows com objects |
| 20:40.45 | jaminguy | i've looked at lua.org |
| 20:40.54 | Shirik | no |
| 20:40.55 | Shirik | very no |
| 20:41.08 | Shirik | you are restricted to what Blizzard gives you |
| 20:41.10 | jaminguy | that's how wTunes worked |
| 20:41.17 | alestane | From within WoW? that's a "NICHT". |
| 20:41.24 | rallion | definitely no. |
| 20:41.36 | jaminguy | it was actually using python scripts |
| 20:41.42 | Shirik | just plain and simple |
| 20:41.46 | Shirik | you get the Blizzard API, that's it |
| 20:41.47 | alestane | WoW Lua has no access to anything outside WoW. |
| 20:41.50 | Shirik | anything else must be pure Lua |
| 20:41.59 | Cide | assuming there aren't any exploits/workarounds |
| 20:42.16 | Cide | wTunes could've relied on one of those |
| 20:42.25 | jaminguy | is there a listing of which parts of lua WoW actually imports? |
| 20:42.29 | Cide | like when variables were saved to disk immediately |
| 20:42.43 | jaminguy | i'm trying to make a windows itunes addon |
| 20:42.47 | Cide | you can't |
| 20:43.21 | jaminguy | can you read files? |
| 20:43.24 | Arrowmaster | the itunes stuff is in the C code stuff not lua |
| 20:43.25 | Arrowmaster | no |
| 20:43.51 | alestane | WoW's Lua environment/compilation is purposely fairly limited. |
| 20:44.06 | jaminguy | the built in itunes funcs only work with macs |
| 20:44.20 | ScytheBlade1 | You cannot access any file I/O, or any API outside of WoW specific functions. |
| 20:44.28 | Cide | which means that you can't make a windows version of it. |
| 20:44.41 | alestane | Right, the Mac build of WoW offers APIs for the Lua interface to use. |
| 20:44.43 | ScytheBlade1 | That's because WoW for Mac has code in the binary for it. You're not accessing the iTunes API, you're accessing the WoW API which handles the iTunes API for you. |
| 20:44.54 | ScytheBlade1 | The windows binary lacks all forms of iTunes APIs |
| 20:45.02 | Shirik | trust us on this hun |
| 20:45.07 | jaminguy | why is that? |
| 20:45.13 | Shirik | I promise you we're not making this up |
| 20:45.17 | Mr_Rabies2 | it all runs within a sandbox |
| 20:45.18 | Shirik | Because it's harder on Windows |
| 20:45.21 | ScytheBlade1 | Because it was easy to do on the Mac client, and it is not easy to do on the Windows client. |
| 20:45.22 | jaminguy | the itunes com stuff is straight forward |
| 20:45.24 | Shirik | on macs, it's built in |
| 20:45.29 | jaminguy | actually it is easy |
| 20:45.35 | Shirik | can you guarantee every computer will have it? |
| 20:45.37 | Shirik | If not, it's not |
| 20:45.39 | ScytheBlade1 | Be that as it may... (I know 0 about COM) |
| 20:45.49 | ScytheBlade1 | It's not available in the windows binary |
| 20:45.50 | jaminguy | you can check to see if it's there or not |
| 20:45.53 | Arrowmaster | because on windows theres no universal way of getting the title of the playing track so they didnt add the feature |
| 20:46.05 | ScytheBlade1 | If you would like that to be a feature, I'd suggest posting that in the suggestions forum |
| 20:46.10 | jaminguy | cool |
| 20:46.12 | alestane | That's also why the 2.2 build supplies movie recording tools for Mac only...well, that and there are plenty of third-party tools that work for Windows and very few for Mac. |
| 20:46.28 | Kaydeethree | the mac team != the windows team |
| 20:46.39 | jme | Kaydeethree: NOWAI??? |
| 20:46.45 | Kaydeethree | srsly |
| 20:46.46 | jme | :o |
| 20:47.02 | jaminguy | you can get track info on win |
| 20:47.09 | ScytheBlade1 | Here's the thing |
| 20:47.13 | jaminguy | i've done it for some projects |
| 20:47.15 | ScytheBlade1 | On the mac client, you can control iTunes |
| 20:47.20 | jaminguy | i'm a win developer |
| 20:47.24 | ScytheBlade1 | The WoW control of iTunes is done though the WoW API |
| 20:47.28 | jaminguy | yeah |
| 20:47.30 | ScytheBlade1 | WoW handles all of the API calls to iTunes |
| 20:47.30 | jaminguy | i get it |
| 20:47.37 | Arrowmaster | jaminguy: you can get it from itunes maybe but theres not univeral way for other music players |
| 20:47.38 | Kaydeethree | great. go make a suggestion on the forums with specifically how you did it, the windows devs may look at it |
| 20:47.41 | ScytheBlade1 | The Win client simply does not have those functions |
| 20:47.52 | Arrowmaster | and they didnt want to do itunes only on windows |
| 20:47.57 | ScytheBlade1 | Just because it's possible doesn't mean it's implimented |
| 20:47.57 | jaminguy | there are other music players? |
| 20:47.59 | ScytheBlade1 | No |
| 20:48.01 | jaminguy | just kidding |
| 20:48.09 | Arrowmaster | i wouldnt touch itunes on pc |
| 20:48.10 | Kaydeethree | winamp <3 |
| 20:48.23 | rallion | indeed |
| 20:48.24 | Arrowmaster | foobar2000 > bloatamp |
| 20:48.24 | Kaydeethree | amarok <3++ |
| 20:48.26 | ScytheBlade1 | Not unless you count the "drop 98273987 .mp3 files into your WTF directory" 'music players' |
| 20:48.28 | ScytheBlade1 | xmms2. |
| 20:48.39 | Kaydeethree | meh. I can't get it to build on f7 |
| 20:48.39 | jme | the obvious solution here is to get a mac :) |
| 20:48.47 | Kaydeethree | went back to amarok since then |
| 20:49.09 | Elkano | getting a mac can't be a solution ;) |
| 20:49.16 | alestane | What I don't think there is on Windows is one coherent interface regardless of which player is being used...could be WinAmp, could be iTunes, could be WMP. I presume that talking to each of them is different. |
| 20:49.25 | Kaydeethree | ya |
| 20:49.35 | jaminguy | it is |
| 20:49.37 | Arrowmaster | there is a universal way of sending commands |
| 20:49.46 | Arrowmaster | but no universal way of getting the playing track title |
| 20:49.58 | jaminguy | different progs use different commands |
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| 20:50.22 | alestane | So programming a music player interface that's going to be useful to most of your target audience is a much bigger headache on Windows. |
| 20:50.34 | jaminguy | yup |
| 20:50.52 | alestane | Hence why the programming team hasn't added those functions to the Win client. |
| 20:50.56 | Chaotic_D | I wish they would make 3D online chatrooms where you could use toons from many games (like WoW, and other MMORPGs, shooters, etc.) in the same place. and the game companies would license out the rights to use them because it would make them a little bit more money. I don't know if you would rent or buy. |
| 20:51.23 | jaminguy | so WoW on macs supports multiple music players? |
| 20:51.38 | ScytheBlade1 | No. |
| 20:51.40 | alestane | Mac: 85% + of users use iTunes because it came with their computer. |
| 20:51.41 | Kaydeethree | no. just iTunes |
| 20:51.41 | Lunessa | Especially since the "universal way of sending commands" would open up the "universal way of sending commands to every goddamned thing" on Windows. |
| 20:51.42 | ScytheBlade1 | Only iTunes. |
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| 20:52.21 | jaminguy | because it's too hard = lazy developer |
| 20:52.30 | alestane | Windows: users have 3-5 different programs that might be their favorite, and that's just the popular ones. |
| 20:52.31 | ScytheBlade1 | Or they simply have better things to do. |
| 20:52.38 | jaminguy | right |
| 20:52.39 | ScytheBlade1 | But each to their own. |
| 20:52.39 | Arrowmaster | Lunessa: youd only be able to send about 10 different commands |
| 20:52.41 | Kaydeethree | like fixing the audio subsystem |
| 20:52.58 | jaminguy | that's why it would be cool to let an addon handle it |
| 20:53.09 | Kaydeethree | and break the sandbox? |
| 20:53.09 | ScytheBlade1 | In theory sure |
| 20:53.21 | ScytheBlade1 | In practice that'd be next to impossible, and still maintain it's security model |
| 20:53.35 | alestane | So, add that feature to Mac, and you've added a feature that at least 80% of your market on that client will appreciate. Add one program to Windows, and you've pleased maybe 25% of your audience and left all the others going, "What about me?" |
| 20:54.07 | jaminguy | where are you guys getting these statistics on audio player usage on windows? |
| 20:54.16 | Kaydeethree | pulling them out of our ass |
| 20:54.17 | alestane | I'm guessing. |
| 20:54.18 | jaminguy | just guessing? |
| 20:54.24 | jaminguy | that's what i figured |
| 20:54.34 | Kaydeethree | s/our ass/our collective asses/ |
| 20:55.06 | alestane | So they won't do it unless they can do it for at least the three major player softwares, AND feel like it's a feature that a noticable percentage of their audience wants. |
| 20:55.58 | alestane | I'm guessing, again, that most people using their WinBox as a music player are running one of WinAmp, iTunes or Windows Media Player. |
| 20:56.10 | jaminguy | anybody know who does the windows WoW development? |
| 20:56.16 | ScytheBlade1 | Heh |
| 20:56.29 | jaminguy | in california? |
| 20:56.33 | Kaydeethree | the forum CMs if general's to be believed ;) |
| 20:56.56 | ScytheBlade1 | If you want things changed, the suggestions forum is for you. |
| 20:56.58 | ScytheBlade1 | That's what it comes down to. |
| 20:57.02 | jaminguy | ok |
| 20:57.04 | jaminguy | thanks |
| 20:57.23 | ScytheBlade1 | That was fun. |
| 20:57.35 | alestane | At least he wasn't too much of an @$$. |
| 20:57.40 | ScytheBlade1 | Indeed |
| 20:58.50 | Thunder_Child | i can fill in for him if you need an ass |
| 20:59.46 | Shirik | Thunder_Child: After yesterday, I think I've had my fill for this week |
| 20:59.49 | Shirik | thanks though |
| 21:00.01 | Thunder_Child | to many hookers at once? |
| 21:00.02 | alestane | What happened yesterday? (Or dare I ask?) |
| 21:00.11 | Shirik | (in SH can't talk) |
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| 21:00.30 | herzogthc | Zzzz. |
| 21:00.32 | Thunder_Child | yet you had enough time to type the other stuff.... |
| 21:00.43 | herzogthc | It's that 'I'm done working even if I have an hour left on teh clock" time of day |
| 21:03.01 | alestane | BTW do Iriel or Cogwheel hang out here with any frequency? I haven't seen either one yet but I've only been here for a couple days. |
| 21:03.12 | ScytheBlade1 | Er |
| 21:03.23 | alestane | Ah. |
| 21:03.38 | alestane | Hi Cogwheel. |
| 21:03.57 | cog|work | hi :) |
| 21:04.11 | ScytheBlade1 | Iriel is more hit and miss, but yes |
| 21:04.51 | herzogthc | wasup scytheblade |
| 21:04.53 | alestane | I like this environment, quick responses are good and I can expect that most of the people I'm talking to are more knowledgable than the baseline forum crowd. |
| 21:04.57 | herzogthc | so um |
| 21:05.14 | herzogthc | do any of the regs here even still play WoW or does developing mods and such make you disgusted with it? :P |
| 21:06.10 | Arrowmaster | no mods are fun |
| 21:06.23 | Arrowmaster | its the playing wow part that makes me disgusted with it |
| 21:06.29 | herzogthc | rofl |
| 21:06.29 | alestane | I play more than develop, I write mods to fill holes I see in the game as far as my play experience is concerned. |
| 21:06.41 | herzogthc | Arrowmaster: I've found I'll be able to level up once as horde and once as alliance |
| 21:06.55 | herzogthc | cause I'm intrigued as long as I have a guide that's telling me what quests to do in what order for efficiency's purpose :) |
| 21:07.34 | Arrowmaster | a few of the really major addon developers dont even play wow that much |
| 21:07.53 | alestane | My challenge is that I love my alts, but I also want to get to end-game stuff...I want to experience the whole game. But raiding requires enough of a committment that it gets hard to give my alts the time they want. |
| 21:07.53 | Arrowmaster | i can think of one major one whos main is in the 40s still |
| 21:08.18 | herzogthc | shrug theres two reasons behind that |
| 21:08.34 | Lunessa | raiding time commitments are for the birds. |
| 21:08.40 | herzogthc | programmers can fluidly fit inbetween languages as long as they understand the fundamentals and concepts of data types |
| 21:08.41 | herzogthc | so |
| 21:08.58 | herzogthc | a programmer will fit better with Lua as a new experience than a gamer does into the WoW world as a new experience |
| 21:08.59 | herzogthc | bad comparison |
| 21:09.08 | herzogthc | but still fairly accurate |
| 21:09.31 | alestane | Fortunately my guild is laid-back about it, three raids a week and enough people that I'm not crucial on any given night (although I'm apparently now our senior 'lock). |
| 21:11.17 | alestane | Last night our leader was actually saying "no mages so no AoE" and I had to stand up and say, "Excuse me?" |
| 21:11.50 | [dRaCo] | SoC! |
| 21:12.21 | herzogthc | I'm a shammy so it might as well be no AoE all the time. |
| 21:12.37 | herzogthc | hwat AoE does exist is fairly inefficient. :) |
| 21:12.40 | alestane | And Hellfire, and Rain of Fire...'locks get some of the most damaging AoE in the game. It just all comes with hefty drawbacks. |
| 21:12.59 | [Ammo] | haha |
| 21:13.04 | [Ammo] | seed of currption! |
| 21:13.36 | alestane | Rain of Fire eats my mana like you wouldn't believe, Hellfire kills me and Seed of Corruption basically guarantees I'll get aggro...but plenty of damage output. |
| 21:13.58 | alestane | Thank the hells for Soulshatter. |
| 21:14.07 | [Ammo] | SoC is all the aoe you need in TBC |
| 21:14.13 | [Ammo] | just combine it with a mage |
| 21:14.19 | [Ammo] | soc em up then mage freeze and blow em |
| 21:14.32 | Arrowmaster | seed of corruption ususally has really shitty damage per mana unless your getting max targets from it |
| 21:14.45 | Arrowmaster | ive gotten up to 14.5k from a since seed before |
| 21:14.56 | Arrowmaster | s/since/single/ |
| 21:15.01 | alestane | It's the cascade effect that's deadly with SoC. |
| 21:15.14 | Arrowmaster | they dont really cascade anymore |
| 21:15.22 | [Ammo] | 19k is my max |
| 21:15.23 | [Ammo] | I think |
| 21:15.32 | alestane | Throw it on 3-4 targets in a clump and the dps gets pretty sick. |
| 21:15.36 | [Ammo] | yeah |
| 21:15.39 | [Ammo] | and do it with 3 locks |
| 21:15.42 | [Ammo] | and you have a party |
| 21:16.59 | Arrowmaster | cast time sucks though, ill often be switching targets to cast it and for a few targets in a row theyll die right before the cast finishes so ill have basicly been doing nothing for 10 seconds |
| 21:17.32 | [Ammo] | that's why you do it with 3 locks |
| 21:17.43 | [Ammo] | and _after_ 2 or 3 SoC's per lock order the mage onslaught |
| 21:18.18 | [Ammo] | too early -> sucks |
| 21:19.35 | jme | alestane: illhoof :X |
| 21:20.02 | alestane | That's a boss, right? In Black Temple? We're still in Kara. |
| 21:20.11 | jme | alestane: haha |
| 21:20.29 | alestane | jme: /confused |
| 21:20.33 | jme | alestane: illhoof is in kara :) |
| 21:20.34 | [Ammo] | illhoof = in kara |
| 21:20.40 | [Ammo] | illhoof = warlock heaven |
| 21:20.41 | jme | i thought you were joking, which is why i laughed |
| 21:20.49 | alestane | I've only seen the first few bosses in Kara so far. |
| 21:20.53 | jme | ahh |
| 21:21.02 | jme | illhoof is a fun one |
| 21:21.15 | jme | i think illhoof and shade are my favorite |
| 21:21.33 | alestane | I haven't been there a lot when the guild's been doing Kara, I've done Attumen, Moroes, the Maiden and tried Curator (we died on that one). |
| 21:21.41 | jme | prince and nightbane are pretty fun too |
| 21:22.25 | jme | yeah, curator is a bit of a gear check with the enrage timer and all |
| 21:22.56 | alestane | They've beaten it since then but I wasn't there. |
| 21:23.04 | jme | one time the tank was pulling the last trash mob right before curator and we were waiting in the room with the statue |
| 21:23.50 | jme | all of a sudden i hear him swear on teamspeak and curator come roaring in yelling at us |
| 21:24.17 | alestane | "You are NOT a guest." |
| 21:24.27 | jme | "Do NOT touch the displays" actually |
| 21:26.22 | alestane | THe one I thought was funny was Moroes last night going, "Oh dear, I've gone and made a mess." |
| 21:27.05 | alestane | That and the Wanton Hostesses, going "They always fall asleep afterward; me, I fall asleep during..." |
| 21:29.25 | alestane | Cogwheel: Quick question about CogsBar: Are the bars it creates direct children of UIParent? No intervening frames? |
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| 21:36.08 | Thunder_Child | alestane, cog|work might ping better....dunno if he has all names ping |
| 21:36.22 | alestane | Still getting used to IRC |
| 21:37.25 | Thunder_Child | lets see, cog|work, cog|work, cog|work, cog|work, cog|work |
| 21:37.46 | Thunder_Child | oh wait, 1 ping per line...damn |
| 21:38.12 | Lej | is there any easy way to add a button to an existing frame of a different addon through lua code? |
| 21:38.41 | alestane | Fairly easy. |
| 21:39.00 | Lej | fairly easy is easy enough |
| 21:39.16 | alestane | Give your addon a dependency on the other addon so that it will load after the other one does. |
| 21:39.29 | Lej | yeah I've done that |
| 21:40.01 | alestane | Declare/create a frame in your addon (in Lua or XML) that lists the frame from the other addon as its 'parent'. |
| 21:40.32 | alestane | In XML this is done with <Frame parent="blah" ... > |
| 21:40.51 | alestane | In Lua it's the third argument to CreateFrame(). |
| 21:41.18 | Lej | Let's say I create it with CreateFrame() |
| 21:41.35 | Lej | how would I add a button (or other elements) to the newly create frame? |
| 21:41.44 | Shirik|AFK | with CreateFrame() |
| 21:41.46 | Shirik|AFK | then SetPoint |
| 21:41.54 | Shirik|AFK | buttons, checkboxes, they're all frames |
| 21:42.00 | alestane | CreateFrame("Button", "myExtensionButton", parentFromOtherAddon) |
| 21:42.02 | Shirik|AFK | just attached to each other |
| 21:42.04 | Lej | I see |
| 21:42.41 | Shirik|AFK | http://www.wowwiki.com/Widget_API will be your friend from now on :) |
| 21:42.41 | Shirik|AFK | /afk |
| 21:42.51 | Lej | thanks |
| 21:43.08 | alestane | Although the CreateFrame() function is in the normal API page because it's not a method. |
| 21:45.39 | cog|work | alestane: yes |
| 21:45.57 | cog|work | (re: your question) |
| 21:46.02 | Lej | I know how to catch events for frames when I do them in XML (<script><onload>... for example) how would I do that when I use createframe? |
| 21:46.15 | alestane | cog|work: The new version of Goose should support them for state showhide automatically then. |
| 21:46.34 | alestane | Lej: newFrame:SetScript('OnEvent', someFunc) |
| 21:47.06 | Lej | That makes sense |
| 21:47.43 | herzogthc | bbl |
| 21:47.50 | alestane | newFrame can be the string you passed as the second argument of CreateFrame, or a variable where you stored the return value of CreateFrame. |
| 21:49.25 | alestane | That is, when the second argument to CreateFrame is a string, CreateFrame will also assign the frame as the value of the global variable with the name equal to that string (_G[suppliedName]) |
| 21:49.31 | cog|work | alestane: nifty :) |
| 21:50.02 | alestane | You were asking whether it would save you the trouble of building autohide into CogsBar. |
| 21:51.11 | jme | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=1133908143&sid=1 |
| 21:51.20 | jme | that reminds me of http://karacry.ytmnd.com |
| 21:53.07 | rallion | heh...my bank character currently has 212 high bids and 115 active auctions |
| 21:53.07 | Lej | how important are ; in lua. Some people seems to use it others don't |
| 21:53.16 | [dRaCo] | not at all |
| 21:53.33 | cog|work | alestane: i plan to eventually, but at least i'll have something to offer people in the short term |
| 21:53.37 | alestane | It's mostly there as a security blanket for C programmers. |
| 21:53.43 | [dRaCo] | when you only put one statement on a line, you dont need any ; |
| 21:53.53 | Lunessa | post # 5 delivers. |
| 21:55.47 | alestane | I remember tanking BRD with my warrior, and telling the rogue, "So, you must PvP alot?" He goes, "Yeah, how can you tell?" |
| 21:56.00 | alestane | "BECAUSE YOU KEEP RUNNING THE MOBS IN EFFING CIRCLES!" |
| 21:56.13 | Lej | any easy tool to brows textures/sounds/other resources? |
| 21:56.36 | cog|work | Lej: WinMPQ |
| 21:57.30 | Lej | does it have somekind of preview for images? |
| 21:57.46 | Lej | I got PowerMPQ installed, use it for wc3 |
| 21:57.53 | rallion | you're really going to just want to extract it all. |
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| 21:58.42 | Lej | common.mpq? |
| 21:59.15 | cog|work | no... you need to go into the locale folders and open up the various data files |
| 21:59.19 | cog|work | it's a bit .... scattered |
| 21:59.32 | cog|work | if you just want the interface art, you can use the UI toolkit |
| 21:59.37 | Lej | murghel. |
| 21:59.42 | Lej | oh yes that's what I want |
| 22:00.01 | cog|work | http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/ui/ |
| 22:02.05 | Lej | where can you ge the ui.xsd? |
| 22:02.39 | alestane | It's unstuffed along with everything else when you run the UI Toolkit. |
| 22:02.40 | Cidan | oh man |
| 22:02.42 | Cidan | I fell asleep |
| 22:02.44 | Cidan | wow |
| 22:03.03 | alestane | You'll find it in the FrameXML folder that gets extracted. |
| 22:03.57 | Lej | yeah, thanks |
| 22:04.23 | rallion | i fell asleep in front of the computer last night, heh |
| 22:04.44 | Lej | I know I used some addon before that allowed me to dump variables and some other stuff. Anyone have any idea what it might have been called? |
| 22:04.55 | cog|work | DevTools |
| 22:05.53 | cog|work | My wow Dev environment always includes DevTools, LuaSlinger, MonoLua, ForAllIndentsAndPurposes, and ImprovedErrorFrame |
| 22:06.18 | cog|work | and now WoWLua <3 cladhaire |
| 22:06.22 | Cidan | Mine includes notepad |
| 22:06.31 | rallion | notepad blows. |
| 22:06.32 | cog|work | i'm just talking about in-game :P |
| 22:06.58 | cog|work | I use visual studio for XML and SciTE-WoWInterface for Lua out-of-game |
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| 22:09.24 | Cidan | Yar, I'm just playin |
| 22:09.28 | Cidan | I use WoWScite |
| 22:09.33 | Cidan | and that's about it |
| 22:09.35 | Cidan | nothing in game |
| 22:09.40 | Cidan | and I don't use XML, so, yeah |
| 22:11.42 | Lej | and what program to use to preview all the extracted .blps? |
| 22:12.00 | sag_ich_nicht | cogwheel not to be a dick or something, but i'd suggest switching to !buggrabber+bugsack IEF is missing ADDON_ACTION_BLOCKED as error event, which is kind of annoying for some bugs when you try to have clean code :O |
| 22:12.16 | Cidan | oh, and I use The Gimp |
| 22:12.21 | Cidan | for textures |
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| 22:13.30 | cog|work | sag_ich_nicht: heh... never been a problem for me, but i'll keep that in mind |
| 22:13.43 | cog|work | i use gimp or paint.net depending on my mood |
| 22:14.14 | sag_ich_nicht | cog|work the problem is mostly with when you have other addons act strange |
| 22:14.25 | sag_ich_nicht | and you find a lot of stealthbugs with it |
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| 22:14.36 | alestane | I haven't made a mod yet that requires original textures. |
| 22:14.53 | Lin_ | Cidan: which parameter should be used to run WoW with wine? |
| 22:15.01 | Cidan | depends |
| 22:15.05 | Cidan | all I use is -opengl |
| 22:15.09 | Cidan | and it works fine |
| 22:15.10 | sag_ich_nicht | i'd keep the IEF error sound tho... the bugsack errorsound is horrible. |
| 22:15.13 | Kaydeethree | set up config.wtf to use opengl and you don't even need to do that |
| 22:15.19 | Lin_ | do you call the launcher? |
| 22:15.23 | Cidan | No |
| 22:15.23 | Kaydeethree | I do |
| 22:15.29 | Cidan | But I'm sure you can |
| 22:16.26 | Rallion | I'm not sure why nobody seems to have written a nice program that lets you easily make additions to the right-click menu for certain filetypes in windows |
| 22:17.21 | Valaron|Work | porn.avi -> Right Click -> Play. That's all that's needed to be said. |
| 22:17.44 | sag_ich_nicht | fail. |
| 22:17.48 | sag_ich_nicht | porn.avi/doubleclick. |
| 22:17.56 | alestane | Rallion: I won't say it's easy, but you can do quite a bit from Folder Options. |
| 22:18.11 | Rallion | alestane, in XP, yes. |
| 22:18.15 | Rallion | in Vista, no |
| 22:18.40 | Rallion | even though as far as I can tell the underlying registry stuff is the same |
| 22:18.47 | alestane | Ah: I was about to say that it had been in there since 98 at least, but you mean that it's been taken out...what flavor of Vista? |
| 22:18.53 | Rallion | Ultimate |
| 22:19.14 | Rallion | they took the 'file types' screen and user-friendlied it |
| 22:19.24 | Cidan | oh holy shit |
| 22:19.27 | Rallion | which is another way of saying they gimped it |
| 22:19.35 | Cidan | Google is going to bid on the 700Mhz spectrum |
| 22:19.37 | Cidan | woo |
| 22:19.39 | Cidan | woooo |
| 22:19.40 | Rallion | all you can do now is set default programs |
| 22:19.41 | Kaydeethree | maybe |
| 22:19.47 | Cidan | Even if it's a maybe |
| 22:19.48 | Cidan | dear god |
| 22:19.50 | Cidan | please |
| 22:19.52 | Cidan | please let them win |
| 22:20.11 | alestane | So even tech-friendly versions don't have it? That seems like a stupid omission. There should be an advanced button or a new location for that function, at least in the advanced packages. |
| 22:20.14 | Kaydeethree | they've got the money to maybe win the auction sitting under their bed... but to do the nationwide roll-out in 3 years? |
| 22:20.33 | Cidan | they can take a bit longer on the rollout |
| 22:20.34 | Cidan | I mean |
| 22:20.35 | alestane | I worked for Google for a few months, they have money coming out their ears. |
| 22:20.41 | Cidan | it's a return, for sure |
| 22:20.49 | Rallion | alestane, I would agree. I'm real tempted to just write a tool, except that there are parts of it that I have trouble nailing down. |
| 22:20.56 | Cidan | no doubt about it, that 700Mhz is a gold mine |
| 22:21.06 | Kaydeethree | no joke |
| 22:21.37 | alestane | What's it actually for? |
| 22:21.46 | Cidan | anything whoever gets it wants to use it for |
| 22:21.50 | Cidan | but mainly, data |
| 22:21.54 | Cidan | lots of it. |
| 22:21.58 | Kaydeethree | 700 MHz is great for passing through buildings and such |
| 22:22.03 | Cidan | yeah |
| 22:22.10 | Cidan | it's what our TV systems use now |
| 22:22.19 | Cidan | but will be forced to shutdown in 2009 |
| 22:22.26 | Rallion | the two things I need to do in particular are adding 'edit as text' and 'edit as hex' to all files, and also adding 'mount' to disc image files |
| 22:25.04 | alestane | So, high-penetration, high throughput digital wireless communications. |
| 22:25.17 | alestane | I can see why that would be a coveted band. |
| 22:25.29 | sag_ich_nicht | AnduinLothar i hate you. now create cosmos developer tools/cosmos complete merge branch. |
| 22:25.40 | sag_ich_nicht | +a |
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| 22:26.27 | Cidan | Well, a wireless spectrum is only as good as the method you use to deliver. "Digital wireless" is something of a misnomer |
| 22:26.34 | Cidan | but it's used all the time |
| 22:28.10 | Cidan | gah |
| 22:28.15 | sag_ich_nicht | actually |
| 22:28.19 | Cidan | overslept, didn't defrost the pork |
| 22:28.20 | sag_ich_nicht | i take that back anduinlothar. |
| 22:28.24 | sag_ich_nicht | sorry. |
| 22:28.37 | Cidan | WHAT IS THIS? SAG_ICH_NICHT FAILS?! |
| 22:28.39 | Cidan | :D |
| 22:28.48 | sag_ich_nicht | Cidan duh |
| 22:28.56 | sag_ich_nicht | i overlooked fire, for like, 3 years. |
| 22:29.31 | sag_ich_nicht | it is awesome. |
| 22:30.10 | sag_ich_nicht | i should punch everyone who uses tables on a regular basis and doesn't use Fire >:O |
| 22:30.32 | Cidan | ? |
| 22:30.59 | sag_ich_nicht | description see here, but the file download there is outdated: http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info5435-Fire.html |
| 22:31.25 | sag_ich_nicht | http://www.cosmosui.org/files/addons/Fire.zip proper download link :O |
| 22:32.43 | Cidan | oh holy shit |
| 22:32.46 | Cidan | I like that. |
| 22:32.54 | sag_ich_nicht | yeah that's what I said. |
| 22:33.00 | sag_ich_nicht | that |
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| 22:33.29 | sag_ich_nicht | *that's why i said i hate him, because Fire hadn't been in the cosmos main branch before the creation of the complete branch, and i thought it wasn't in it still. |
| 22:35.02 | alestane | Gotta go home, I've been at work too long today. |
| 22:44.13 | sag_ich_nicht | AnduinLothar bug in either ActionButtonColors or a different addon(FishingBuddy), you tell me: http://pastey.net/72594 |
| 22:48.57 | sag_ich_nicht | ~botmail trh Change your minimap system to make it a real minimap button and not a frame that looks like a minimap button, if you're lazy use fubar to create it, but just do it, or i'll hurt you. |
| 22:49.12 | sag_ich_nicht | purl, did you deliver that? D: |
| 22:50.32 | Gnarfoz | ~botmail sag_ich_nicht test |
| 22:50.57 | Gnarfoz | ~die |
| 22:50.58 | purl | ACTION takes two shots to the head and crumples to the ground, lifeless. |
| 22:51.01 | Gnarfoz | hm |
| 22:51.02 | Gnarfoz | ~live |
| 22:51.03 | purl | ACTION rises from the dead and starts eating people. |
| 22:51.09 | Gnarfoz | whatever |
| 22:51.37 | sag_ich_nicht | lol |
| 22:53.44 | cog|work | rofl http://bash.org/?790689 |
| 22:54.44 | sag_ich_nicht | ~botmail |
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| 22:58.42 | ScytheBlade1 | lol @ cog |
| 22:58.43 | ScytheBlade1 | That is win |
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| 23:11.13 | sag_ich_nicht | and now i go to bed |
| 23:11.14 | sag_ich_nicht | gn8 |
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| 23:32.48 | Corrodias | oh, good |
| 23:32.55 | Corrodias | classic spongebob |
| 23:33.41 | Corrodias | flipping hilarious |
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| 23:43.42 | Rallion | huh, FF8 PC runs nearly perfectly on Vista |
| 23:43.49 | Rallion | i'm pretty surprised |
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| 23:46.16 | Rallion | ooh except for that. heh. |
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| 23:50.10 | Rallion | some graphical issues in scene backgrounds, but as far as I can tell, nothing that impinges on the platability...still it's probably easier to just use an emulator |
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