| 00:00.31 | art3mis | "All channels are being filtered, if you're not on my friend list I won't see this til much later..... Blame the gold spammers" |
| 00:00.43 | art3mis | and the just ignore em all ;P |
| 00:00.51 | Lunessa | I'm currently experiencing the frustration of being ignored by most of my guild for runs if I play anything other than my priest, and if I play my priest, no one ever wants to do what I need, they want me to do what they need. It's... hard to stay positive. |
| 00:01.13 | art3mis | punie: im a priest i know that VERY well |
| 00:01.16 | art3mis | err lunie |
| 00:01.33 | art3mis | refuse to help or group to do stuff i need but demand i help them |
| 00:02.14 | art3mis | in fact it bugs me that ive left 3 guilds over that exact thing |
| 00:02.30 | art3mis | and all 3 guilds are in ssc so i gave up lots of potential loot cuz they irritated me |
| 00:03.37 | Lunessa | I have a priest, a warlock, a mage and a shaman at level 70. I end up pugging or soloing a lot 'cause it's so difficult to pop people's heads out of their asses. |
| 00:04.06 | Lunessa | I'm looking for an answer that isn't just me telling them, "Recruit/grow more healers" |
| 00:04.24 | art3mis | go spec shadow ;P |
| 00:04.30 | art3mis | thatll learn em |
| 00:04.35 | Lunessa | Because while that's gotten us 4-5 more healers, I can never get them to do stuff with me on my shaman. :P |
| 00:05.27 | Mr_Rabies2 | you can't expect them to go out of their way to do stuff for you if you're not willing to return the favor |
| 00:05.37 | Mr_Rabies2 | i don't expect people to run things they don't want, so i don't ask them |
| 00:05.45 | Lunessa | Oh, see that's where you're wrong. |
| 00:05.55 | art3mis | i think you're missing the point of he does go out of his way on his priest but they wont help him with his alts |
| 00:05.55 | Lunessa | I end up doing everyone else's runs. |
| 00:05.55 | Mr_Rabies2 | in turn people don't expect me to go anywhere |
| 00:05.58 | Mr_Rabies2 | don't. |
| 00:06.00 | Lunessa | And never my own. |
| 00:06.04 | Mr_Rabies2 | don't go somewhere if you don't want to |
| 00:06.11 | Mr_Rabies2 | straight up refuse |
| 00:06.13 | Mr_Rabies2 | i do it all the time |
| 00:06.21 | Mr_Rabies2 | "nah, i've got everything i need out of there, find another tank" |
| 00:06.22 | Mr_Rabies2 | bam |
| 00:06.48 | art3mis | mr rabies transfer to my server horde suide and lets run setthek til we vomit |
| 00:06.55 | Lunessa | Yeah, and when I want to do Shattered halls, you know what I hear? "Nah, we're done with there." |
| 00:06.55 | Mr_Rabies2 | how about no |
| 00:06.56 | art3mis | i need 13k more rep for the hammer ;P |
| 00:07.01 | Mr_Rabies2 | screw sethekk |
| 00:07.22 | art3mis | well arent you a big pile of suhk |
| 00:07.25 | Mr_Rabies2 | then you gotta accept pugs but make your groups carefully |
| 00:07.45 | Mr_Rabies2 | if they don't bother typing in some form of english, don't invite them |
| 00:07.47 | Lunessa | Hey, I made it, and I keep on keeping on. It's just frustrating. |
| 00:07.54 | Mr_Rabies2 | if they mess up, kick them out and find a replacement |
| 00:08.06 | Mr_Rabies2 | mess up being something stupid |
| 00:08.09 | art3mis | you guys are alliance arencha? |
| 00:08.27 | Lunessa | Yeah, I deleted all my Horde alts last night. |
| 00:08.27 | Mr_Rabies2 | everyone occasionally breaks sheep, or accidentally pulls some adds once or twice every now and then |
| 00:08.37 | art3mis | i need a new server |
| 00:08.40 | Mr_Rabies2 | my main is alliance |
| 00:08.42 | art3mis | im bored of my present one |
| 00:08.56 | Mr_Rabies2 | no one runs heroics on mine |
| 00:08.59 | Mr_Rabies2 | it's infuriating |
| 00:09.07 | Mr_Rabies2 | because that's all i really can do between kara runs |
| 00:09.33 | Lunessa | I really need to re-spec my mage and tweak my warlock. But, I really want to keep playing my shaman. I'm just sick of feeling like I'm pugging in my own guild. |
| 00:09.37 | art3mis | this whole channel should transfer to a new server and make a guild |
| 00:10.07 | Lunessa | I bet we'd loathe each other pretty quickly, or else all we'd do is tweak interfaces. |
| 00:10.14 | art3mis | heh |
| 00:10.22 | art3mis | i dunno we all behave and think the same way |
| 00:10.31 | art3mis | and any fights we'd have would be over pretty quick |
| 00:10.46 | art3mis | cuz we wouldnt have the drama behind it and just duke it out in herre or on /g |
| 00:10.59 | art3mis | and then tomorrow would come and poof all better for the most part |
| 00:11.20 | Lunessa | Or we'd fight longer since we have more ways to take it out on each other. |
| 00:11.22 | Lunessa | :P |
| 00:11.31 | art3mis | heh yeah but thats when it gets fun ;) |
| 00:11.40 | Mr_Rabies2 | lunessa, there's nothing wrong with pugging |
| 00:11.51 | Lunessa | I didn't say there was. |
| 00:11.55 | Mr_Rabies2 | you just gotta know how to pick em |
| 00:12.05 | Mr_Rabies2 | last night i got in a pug that |
| 00:12.07 | Mr_Rabies2 | imagine this |
| 00:12.09 | Mr_Rabies2 | the hunter |
| 00:12.12 | Mr_Rabies2 | used distract and traps |
| 00:12.18 | art3mis | really? |
| 00:12.22 | Mr_Rabies2 | and guess what, he actually had his pet offtank from time to time |
| 00:12.26 | art3mis | when did they get those abilities? |
| 00:12.30 | Lunessa | I just said I'm sick of feeling like my guild is just the same as pugging but with a chat channel. |
| 00:12.33 | Mr_Rabies2 | er not distract |
| 00:12.35 | Mr_Rabies2 | blah |
| 00:12.37 | Mr_Rabies2 | misdirect |
| 00:13.03 | Mr_Rabies2 | brain thought one thing, hands typed something else entirely |
| 00:13.12 | art3mis | yeah its that way for almost ALL priests if you're not the GL RL or CL |
| 00:13.12 | Mr_Rabies2 | Lunessa, that's how most guilds are |
| 00:13.27 | Lunessa | It wasn't always thus. |
| 00:13.41 | Mr_Rabies2 | the only exception is raiding guilds and they don't even RUN the 5 mans and heroics |
| 00:13.42 | art3mis | thats why you have to start not doing stuff for them if it doesnt benefit you |
| 00:15.58 | Lunessa | Actually, I probably need to cull the ranks of the people who have shifted their attitudes away from "Group of friends" to "me, me, me." |
| 00:17.46 | Mr_Rabies2 | you'll wind up with just yourself |
| 00:18.10 | Lunessa | Nah, I can think of about 6-8 folks I would be keeping for sure. :P |
| 00:19.42 | Mr_Rabies2 | the vast majoirity of players only care for themselves |
| 00:19.53 | Mr_Rabies2 | hell |
| 00:20.06 | Mr_Rabies2 | the vast majority of people on this earth only care for themselves |
| 00:20.06 | Lunessa | Including me. |
| 00:20.21 | Lunessa | It's an effort of will to think of others. |
| 00:21.57 | Mr_Rabies2 | i need ogrila rep |
| 00:22.03 | Mr_Rabies2 | but i'm too lazy :( |
| 00:22.05 | [dRaCo] | go grind. |
| 00:22.09 | Mr_Rabies2 | i -hate- grinding |
| 00:22.28 | Mr_Rabies2 | i'd do it if i could find some others to help out |
| 00:22.35 | Mr_Rabies2 | but solo grinding is my least favorite thing to do |
| 00:26.28 | Shirik | >>> return string.char(string.byte('2')*2) |
| 00:26.30 | Cide | Shirik: "d" |
| 00:26.58 | Mr_Rabies2 | i wish wowwiki had popups for items when you highlighted the name :/ |
| 00:27.19 | Mr_Rabies2 | so i could see what i can get at each rep level with a popup |
| 00:27.25 | Mr_Rabies2 | for specific factions |
| 00:28.35 | [dRaCo] | ki.rkburn's here, make him implement it :> |
| 00:39.45 | Lunessa | Woot - voss says close at 8! |
| 00:39.49 | Lunessa | er, boss |
| 00:48.20 | art3mis | est or pst? ;) |
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| 00:52.57 | bleeter | sure he didn't mean 8th of next month and yer out of work? :P |
| 00:54.28 | Shirik | lol |
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| 00:57.00 | Lunessa | lol |
| 00:57.04 | Lunessa | I'm fired! |
| 01:00.41 | Lunessa | ciao tutti |
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| 01:31.43 | Wobin_ | okies, I need help in conceptualising a macro |
| 01:32.28 | Wobin_ | it's intending to be a omgsavedasquishy hunter pet macro |
| 01:33.02 | Shirik | I prefer /dismisspet |
| 01:33.08 | Shirik | I don't like my pet |
| 01:33.11 | Shirik | he's worthless |
| 01:33.15 | Wobin_ | Go cut yourself =) |
| 01:33.22 | Wobin_ | melee hunter =P |
| 01:33.23 | Shirik | :( |
| 01:34.12 | ckknight | hey all |
| 01:34.19 | Shirik | hi |
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| 01:40.06 | Shirik | http://www.linux.com/feature/118489 |
| 01:43.23 | Shirik | admittedly to this line: |
| 01:43.25 | Shirik | "Though MySQL AB will not be distributing the source tarball, Urlocker says that MySQL isn't going to try to stop distribution of Enterprise Server source by others. "If somebody wants to, that's fine. People can distribute it.... It may not be something we've necessarily tested, but we're not going to try to coerce people against it."" |
| 01:43.32 | Shirik | They also can't stop people from distributing it, per the GPL |
| 01:47.12 | MatthewS | doesnt seem all that big a deal |
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| 01:47.29 | MatthewS | they just dont want the hassle of dealing with people grabbing tar's of it |
| 01:51.52 | dnmcgoy | hiya guys, action bars are bugging me this evening |
| 01:52.18 | dnmcgoy | anyone know much about action bar buttons and ids associated with said actionbarbuttons? |
| 01:52.58 | dnmcgoy | I'm trying to make new ones although if I assign ids that aren't currently assigned to other actionbarbuttons, I can't place things into them |
| 01:54.56 | dnmcgoy | Im' currently trying to dig into if there's anything special going on with the template, but the individual instances of them in FrameXML don't look that interesting |
| 01:58.28 | Shirik | I really never investigated how to use action bars I'm afraid |
| 01:58.33 | *** join/#wowi-lounge sag_ich_nicht (i=bitch2k@85.127.114.13) |
| 01:58.48 | sag_ich_nicht | mhm |
| 01:58.59 | sag_ich_nicht | what was the bot command again for armory show vs.es? :O |
| 02:00.18 | Shirik | msg Thrae help |
| 02:00.24 | Shirik | er, ThraeBot |
| 02:01.23 | sag_ich_nicht | !vs eu gul'dan ruknor eu gul'dan gehämmert |
| 02:01.27 | ThraeBot | sag_ich_nicht: Ruknor vs Gehämmert! Two 70 paladins square off!; 0/8/53 vs 20/0/41; Gehämmert wins by 199 TBRs! |
| 02:01.34 | sag_ich_nicht | damn |
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| 02:01.43 | sag_ich_nicht | !vs eu gul'dan ruknor eu gul'dan strossus |
| 02:01.46 | ThraeBot | sag_ich_nicht: Ruknor vs Strossus! Two 70 paladins square off!; 0/8/53 vs 0/48/13; Ruknor wins by 404 TBRs! ***OWNED***! |
| 02:02.05 | sag_ich_nicht | ...why the hell is he prot? |
| 02:02.11 | sag_ich_nicht | !vs eu gul'dan ruknor eu gul'dan aldaron |
| 02:02.14 | ThraeBot | sag_ich_nicht: Ruknor vs Aldaron! Two 70 paladins square off!; 0/8/53 vs 0/49/12; Ruknor wins by 625 TBRs! ***OWNED***! |
| 02:02.17 | sag_ich_nicht | >:O |
| 02:02.25 | Shirik | methinks sag_ich_nicht should be doing this in whispers >.> |
| 02:02.42 | dnmcgoy | interesting bot |
| 02:02.43 | Shirik | too much ***OWNED*** |
| 02:03.03 | Shirik | it's true :( |
| 02:03.17 | dnmcgoy | Shirik: that's cool, I'm digging in FrameXML anyway |
| 02:03.30 | Shirik | I think you'd probably be better off opening something up like bongos |
| 02:03.42 | Cidan | Who did what now where? |
| 02:04.00 | sag_ich_nicht | i think i am pretty happy with BT3 |
| 02:04.30 | dnmcgoy | I've also looked at Bartender, it makes lots of keybindings for the bindings.xml file.. so I'm also trying to figure out why its doing what its doing |
| 02:04.58 | Shirik | sag_ich_nicht: Haven't you heard what's becoming of RDX.Cid? |
| 02:05.07 | sag_ich_nicht | Shirik no, i haven't |
| 02:05.16 | Shirik | you need to open your eyes a bit more then |
| 02:05.50 | Shirik | btw I forced Cidan to log on, say hi |
| 02:06.17 | sag_ich_nicht | hi cidan :O |
| 02:07.19 | sag_ich_nicht | Shirik so are you going to tell me or not? :P |
| 02:07.29 | Shirik | you could ask purl for the logs and find out yourself :P |
| 02:07.33 | Shirik | Or ask several people here |
| 02:08.03 | sag_ich_nicht | or you could just stop being a jerk and gimme a summary |
| 02:08.16 | sag_ich_nicht | since you are part of the serval people in here |
| 02:08.25 | Shirik | there ya go :D |
| 02:08.35 | Shirik | RDX.Cid is no longer on my computer |
| 02:08.52 | Cidan | ? |
| 02:08.56 | Shirik | in its place is a ground-up rewrite with all the features, plus more, and better performance |
| 02:09.03 | Cidan | Ah |
| 02:09.08 | Cidan | Wait, it is?! |
| 02:09.14 | sag_ich_nicht | o rly |
| 02:09.15 | Shirik | well it's on my desktop |
| 02:09.16 | Cidan | When was I supposed to be informed of this?! |
| 02:09.17 | Shirik | not on this computer |
| 02:09.19 | Cidan | :P |
| 02:09.21 | Shirik | ~lart Cidan |
| 02:09.22 | purl | hits Cidan with an anvil and laughs with a contralto voice ... Haha Ha HA Ha |
| 02:09.22 | sag_ich_nicht | well give it to us already then if it's already done |
| 02:09.27 | Shirik | it's not |
| 02:09.30 | Cidan | It's not |
| 02:09.39 | Cidan | Hacking away at it as we speak |
| 02:09.39 | sag_ich_nicht | then don't claim it exists! |
| 02:09.40 | sag_ich_nicht | :P |
| 02:09.44 | Shirik | it does exist |
| 02:09.50 | Shirik | it's just not fully functional yet |
| 02:12.04 | sag_ich_nicht | mhm |
| 02:12.10 | sag_ich_nicht | i wonder if ThraeBot will lie now |
| 02:12.21 | sag_ich_nicht | !vs eu gul'dan ruknor eu gul'dan sodexho |
| 02:12.22 | ThraeBot | sag_ich_nicht: ruknor vs sodexho! It's a showdown! ...But wait, what's this?! sodexho always haxs, so wins automatically. |
| 02:12.35 | sag_ich_nicht | D: |
| 02:12.40 | sag_ich_nicht | !vs eu gul'dan ruknor eu gul'dan sharandris |
| 02:12.42 | ThraeBot | sag_ich_nicht: Ruknor vs Sharandris! A L70 paladin and a L70 druid square off!; 0/8/53 vs 0/47/14; Ruknor wins by 470 TBRs! ***OWNED***! |
| 02:12.55 | sag_ich_nicht | bullshit D: |
| 02:13.37 | sag_ich_nicht | Thrae what causes the hax response? :P |
| 02:14.12 | Shirik | !vs us Eredar Shirik us Drenden Kimina |
| 02:14.15 | ThraeBot | Shirik: Shirik vs Kimina! A L70 hunter and a L70 priest square off!; 3/50/8 vs 23/38/0; Kimina wins by 31 TBRs! |
| 02:14.18 | Shirik | wtf! |
| 02:14.25 | Shirik | oh that's messed up |
| 02:14.45 | Shirik | I've been 70 on Kimina for like ... a week |
| 02:14.52 | Shirik | Shirik's been through Kara and ok-geared... |
| 02:15.12 | sag_ich_nicht | mhm |
| 02:15.21 | sag_ich_nicht | !vs eu gul'dan ruknor us eredar Shirik |
| 02:15.23 | ThraeBot | sag_ich_nicht: Ruknor vs Shirik! A L70 paladin and a L70 hunter square off!; 0/8/53 vs 3/50/8; Ruknor wins by 201 TBRs! |
| 02:15.27 | sag_ich_nicht | !vs eu gul'dan ruknor us eredar Kimina |
| 02:15.28 | ThraeBot | sag_ich_nicht: Armory parse error. You must have screwed up the command. You suck. |
| 02:15.35 | sag_ich_nicht | ah, true |
| 02:15.40 | sag_ich_nicht | !vs eu gul'dan ruknor us drenden Kimina |
| 02:15.42 | ThraeBot | sag_ich_nicht: Ruknor vs Kimina! A L70 paladin and a L70 priest square off!; 0/8/53 vs 23/38/0; Ruknor wins by 254 TBRs! |
| 02:15.43 | sag_ich_nicht | :P |
| 02:18.20 | Shirik | at least Shirik did better there |
| 02:18.28 | Shirik | what's a TBR? |
| 02:18.58 | sag_ich_nicht | i dunno, but i wanna know what causes the hax response D: |
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| 02:38.14 | dnmcgoy | sonava.. you can only have 120 action bar buttons.. that's it, no more |
| 02:38.38 | dnmcgoy | and you have to use the ids provided by ones that already exist |
| 02:39.32 | dnmcgoy | bongos, bartender.. all give you only 120.. its a very "integrated into WoW" thing |
| 02:40.09 | dnmcgoy | at least that's what I'm seeing so far |
| 02:47.54 | Mr_Rabies2 | !vs us Cho'gall Corgan us llane raybeez |
| 02:47.57 | ThraeBot | Mr_Rabies2: Corgan vs Raybeez! Two 70 druids square off!; 44/0/17 vs 1/46/14; Corgan wins by 1238 TBRs! ***OWNED***! |
| 02:48.01 | Mr_Rabies2 | D: |
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| 02:49.34 | Mr_Rabies2 | let's try that again |
| 02:49.36 | Mr_Rabies2 | !vs us Cho'gall Corgan us llane raybeez |
| 02:49.38 | ThraeBot | Mr_Rabies2: Corgan vs Raybeez! Two 70 druids square off!; 44/0/17 vs 1/46/14; Corgan wins by 1154 TBRs! ***OWNED***! |
| 02:49.43 | Mr_Rabies2 | >:[ |
| 02:49.46 | Shirik | ow. |
| 02:49.48 | Shirik | very ow. |
| 02:49.49 | Mr_Rabies2 | i'm confused how this is rated anyway |
| 02:49.57 | Mr_Rabies2 | because i kicked his ass on the ptr :P |
| 02:50.12 | Shirik | yeah I totally don't believe that Kimi vs Shirik result |
| 02:50.17 | Shirik | at all |
| 02:50.36 | Mr_Rabies2 | i'm trying to decide |
| 02:50.42 | Mr_Rabies2 | what weapon i should use |
| 02:51.24 | Mr_Rabies2 | for some reason, using emmerald's calculations, the dreamer's dragonstaff is better than earthwarden |
| 02:51.30 | Mr_Rabies2 | but in personal use i don't see how it could be |
| 02:52.14 | Mr_Rabies2 | http://www.gurgleblaster.net/emmerald/Cat_Sustained_DPS/Two_Hand.html |
| 02:54.43 | dnmcgoy | hmm.. in terms of programming this just became an even more interesting problem than I first though |
| 02:54.46 | dnmcgoy | *thought |
| 02:54.58 | Mr_Rabies2 | 564 AP total on dreamer's |
| 02:55.02 | Mr_Rabies2 | plus 1.11% crit |
| 02:55.21 | AnduinLothar | str = atp on drrod, right? |
| 02:55.56 | AnduinLothar | +423 Feral AP, +46 Strength, +27 Agility > +556 Feral AP, +24 Feral Weapon Skill apparently |
| 02:56.08 | AnduinLothar | i knwo the pally atp is 2atp for 1 str |
| 02:56.25 | AnduinLothar | which would give it 423+92 |
| 02:56.39 | AnduinLothar | plus a bit more than 1% crit |
| 02:56.44 | Mr_Rabies2 | 46 str is 113.2 AP |
| 02:56.59 | Mr_Rabies2 | and 27 AGI is 27.8 AP and 1.11% crit |
| 02:57.16 | AnduinLothar | so 564 |
| 02:57.34 | Mr_Rabies2 | hrm |
| 02:57.46 | Mr_Rabies2 | i suppose it's a bit better |
| 02:58.13 | Mr_Rabies2 | 24 weapon skill is +0.24% chance to hit apparently |
| 02:58.23 | Mr_Rabies2 | or something |
| 02:58.29 | Mr_Rabies2 | it's hard to read what ratingbuster's telling me |
| 02:58.32 | AnduinLothar | thats fairly uselss |
| 02:58.33 | Mr_Rabies2 | it says |
| 02:58.51 | AnduinLothar | since 12 rating is like 1% |
| 02:58.54 | Mr_Rabies2 | Equip: Increases feral combat skill rating by 24 (+0.24% x5) |
| 02:59.04 | Mr_Rabies2 | what is the x5 |
| 02:59.06 | Mr_Rabies2 | does that mean +5? |
| 02:59.09 | Mr_Rabies2 | i'm confused |
| 02:59.53 | Mr_Rabies2 | ah, it's +5 weapon skill which is .24% more chance to hit? |
| 03:00.16 | Mr_Rabies2 | problem is the character pane is bugged |
| 03:00.33 | Mr_Rabies2 | it's telling me the weapon skill with my mace and not my feral weapon |
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| 03:10.02 | Legorol | Mr_Rabies: i'm pretty good with combat rating and stats, maybe i can help you out |
| 03:10.08 | Legorol | let me scroll up and read it all :o) |
| 03:11.54 | Legorol | Mr_Rabies2: ping |
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| 03:13.14 | Legorol | morning cogwheel |
| 03:13.33 | Mr_Rabies2 | :o |
| 03:13.41 | cogwheel | morning |
| 03:13.49 | Mr_Rabies2 | 14,1Time: (411:11:58 PM EST on Thursday, August 09, 200714) |
| 03:13.50 | Mr_Rabies2 | >:[ |
| 03:13.58 | Legorol | Mr_Rabies2: are you still confused over the rating things, because then i can help |
| 03:14.02 | Mr_Rabies2 | oh wait |
| 03:14.12 | Mr_Rabies2 | i forgot about that it's always morning thing type dealyo |
| 03:14.25 | Nom- | omg ffs |
| 03:14.30 | cogwheel | ~ugt |
| 03:14.31 | purl | hmm... ugt is Universal Greeting Time. Created in #mipslinux, it is a rule that states that whenever somebody enters an IRC channel it is always morning, and it is always late when the person leaves. The local time of any other people in the channel, including the greeter, is irrelevant. http://www.total-knowledge.com/~ilya/mips/ugt.html |
| 03:14.31 | Nom- | ISP filtering is back on the agenda in Oz |
| 03:14.32 | Mr_Rabies2 | i think i have it but i'm not sure if +5 weapon skill is better than some crit and AP |
| 03:14.37 | Nom- | Stupid government |
| 03:14.41 | Shirik | ~lart Mr_Rabies |
| 03:14.41 | purl | nabs the moon and broadsides Mr_Rabies with the sea of tranquility |
| 03:14.52 | Shirik | morning cogwheel |
| 03:14.56 | Shirik | and good night |
| 03:15.04 | cogwheel | nn |
| 03:15.27 | Legorol | Mr_Rabies2: the +24 weapon skill rating doesn't give you +5 weapon skill, it gives a little over +6 |
| 03:15.34 | Legorol | and it's very very very good, depending on the situation |
| 03:15.42 | Legorol | let me explain why, because very few people know this |
| 03:15.57 | Mr_Rabies2 | well |
| 03:16.04 | Mr_Rabies2 | not a huge part of druid damage is white damage |
| 03:16.13 | Mr_Rabies2 | most of ours comes from shred in pve situations |
| 03:16.21 | Legorol | irrelevant, please let me explain the most important thing |
| 03:16.26 | Mr_Rabies2 | doo eet |
| 03:16.40 | Legorol | opponents that are higher level than you have a non-linear increase in your chance to miss against them |
| 03:16.51 | Legorol | if you compare your weapon skill versus their defense skill |
| 03:17.14 | Legorol | this is especially important for raids, if you have maxed out weapon skill (350) and fighting a 73 boss (defense of 365) |
| 03:17.35 | Legorol | you will have 3% higher chance to miss such a boss than against a lvl 70 |
| 03:17.41 | Mr_Rabies2 | doesn't that only apply to white damage? |
| 03:17.43 | Legorol | nope |
| 03:17.48 | Legorol | applies to any damage |
| 03:17.57 | Mr_Rabies2 | i'm pretty sure yellow damage can't miss but it can be dodged etc |
| 03:17.58 | Mr_Rabies2 | lemme see |
| 03:17.58 | Legorol | your miss chance is boosted from 5% to 8% against 73 |
| 03:18.05 | Legorol | yes it can miss |
| 03:18.09 | Legorol | white and yellow are the same |
| 03:18.35 | Legorol | the difference is that yellow damage always uses the miss chance appropriate as if you had one-weapon (eg. 2-handed) |
| 03:18.41 | Mr_Rabies2 | ah |
| 03:18.44 | Legorol | even for dualwielding classes such as rogues and fury warriors |
| 03:18.44 | Mr_Rabies2 | well i have that anyway |
| 03:18.45 | Mr_Rabies2 | so yeah |
| 03:18.55 | Legorol | ah but here is the nifty part |
| 03:19.19 | Legorol | if you manage to raise your weapon skill to at least 356, suddenly the miss chance becomes lot smaller |
| 03:19.42 | Legorol | it's now only 0.9% higher than against a lvl 70 |
| 03:19.47 | Legorol | so it's 5.9% |
| 03:19.59 | Mr_Rabies2 | well i have... 361 |
| 03:20.00 | Legorol | that's one of the true powers of weapon skill, not many people know about it |
| 03:20.06 | Mr_Rabies2 | plus hit rating |
| 03:20.08 | Legorol | cool |
| 03:20.23 | Mr_Rabies2 | well actually only 355 with dreamers |
| 03:20.33 | Mr_Rabies2 | but 1.11% more crit and ~10 AP |
| 03:20.40 | Legorol | i can't remember if it's 355 or 356 that's the magical threshold |
| 03:20.55 | Legorol | but there is a non-linearity, so you get a sudden boost to your hit-chance if you cross the threshold |
| 03:20.59 | Legorol | safer to have 356 ;-) |
| 03:21.10 | Mr_Rabies2 | i like my crit rating though :[ |
| 03:21.24 | Legorol | you more than make up for that, this is how: |
| 03:21.46 | Legorol | if your weapon skill is 356 or higher, than any +hit bonus beyond about 6% is a waste against a 73 mob |
| 03:21.56 | Legorol | (there are a few special bosses, but let's ignore that for now) |
| 03:22.08 | Legorol | so all those gems you have that give you hit rating, you could make them give crit instead |
| 03:22.41 | Legorol | i can also explain this line: |
| 03:22.41 | Legorol | Equip: Increases feral combat skill rating by 24 (+0.24% x5) |
| 03:22.59 | Legorol | what this applies to is if your weapon skill is *higher* than or equal to your opponents defense |
| 03:23.50 | Legorol | then a skill rating of 24 will give an increase of +0.24% chance to hit, +0.24% chance to crit, and decrease the chance that the opponent's chance to dodge, block and parry by 0.24% each |
| 03:24.07 | Legorol | that's why ratingbuster is saying x5, because you are getting the 0.24% bonus in five different ways, spread out |
| 03:24.20 | Legorol | unlike hit and crit rating, weapon skill rating has a much more spread out effect |
| 03:24.43 | Legorol | but the combination of all those five factors can make weapon skill rating relatively useful too |
| 03:25.05 | Legorol | this is all independently from the big boost i mentioned earlier, which applied to the case when your weapon skill is *lower* than the opponent's defense |
| 03:25.32 | Legorol | Hope that all makes sense, if not, feel free to ask for clarification |
| 03:25.39 | Mr_Rabies2 | the weapon skill display bug isn't helping me either |
| 03:25.44 | Legorol | or if you don't care, just tell me to get lost :o) |
| 03:25.48 | Legorol | hehe no that's not helping |
| 03:25.52 | Mr_Rabies2 | it says my weapon skill is 311 |
| 03:25.55 | Mr_Rabies2 | but in reality it's 361 |
| 03:26.04 | Legorol | yah i know the one you mean |
| 03:26.05 | Mr_Rabies2 | because my real weapon skill doesn't apply in feral forms |
| 03:26.09 | Mr_Rabies2 | ah okay |
| 03:26.11 | Legorol | it's only a display bug though |
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| 03:26.29 | Mr_Rabies2 | i dunno |
| 03:26.36 | Legorol | confirmed by Blue that the mechanics themselves work as intended, and the display issue will be fixed at some point |
| 03:26.50 | Mr_Rabies2 | compare and contrast earthwarden and Dreamer's Dragonstaff for me then :/ |
| 03:27.06 | Mr_Rabies2 | i used emmerald's calculations and he says dreamer's is better, and his math is pretty good |
| 03:27.13 | Legorol | need to scroll back for stats |
| 03:27.20 | Mr_Rabies2 | http://www.gurgleblaster.net/emmerald/Cat_Sustained_DPS/Two_Hand.html |
| 03:27.38 | Legorol | Dreamer: +423 Feral AP, +46 Strength, +27 Agility, +28 Stamina |
| 03:27.47 | Legorol | Earthwarden: +556 Feral AP, +24 Feral Weapon Skill, 500 Armor, +39 Stamina, +27 Defense |
| 03:27.51 | Mr_Rabies2 | altogether 564 AP on dreamer |
| 03:27.52 | Legorol | (just pasting so i don't have to switch windows) |
| 03:27.57 | Legorol | let's verify that.. |
| 03:28.11 | Mr_Rabies2 | or 563 depending on rounding |
| 03:28.15 | Legorol | i don't remember offhand the conversion of str->ap for feral druids, i know it's not just x2 |
| 03:28.28 | Legorol | there is a % increase there somewhere to str if i'm not mistaken, but i forget the factor |
| 03:28.28 | Mr_Rabies2 | for my spec it's STRx2.4 |
| 03:28.30 | Mr_Rabies2 | for my spec it's STRx2.46* |
| 03:28.34 | Legorol | ok |
| 03:28.54 | Mr_Rabies2 | heart of the wild is 20% more str |
| 03:28.59 | Legorol | ok total AP seems fine |
| 03:29.07 | Mr_Rabies2 | 1.11% crit from the agi |
| 03:29.35 | Legorol | ok, take your word for it |
| 03:29.42 | Mr_Rabies2 | extra AP increases things differently than just straight damage because of the modifiers on rip, etc |
| 03:29.50 | Legorol | yah |
| 03:29.56 | Legorol | and the same for crit % |
| 03:30.03 | Mr_Rabies2 | and more crit increases dps differently than just straight more crits |
| 03:30.05 | Mr_Rabies2 | because of blood fury |
| 03:30.06 | Legorol | how does emmerald calculate the kitty dps? |
| 03:30.18 | Mr_Rabies2 | primal fury* |
| 03:30.20 | Mr_Rabies2 | one sex |
| 03:30.22 | Mr_Rabies2 | sec, rofl |
| 03:30.46 | Legorol | some waiting for AP and crit %? |
| 03:30.50 | Legorol | *weighting |
| 03:31.03 | Legorol | anyhow, let's ignore that for a moment |
| 03:31.20 | Legorol | so dreamer has slightly more AP, |
| 03:31.24 | Legorol | and has 1.11% crit increase |
| 03:31.38 | cogwheel | zxc ... yeah... i can see that being an honest error :P |
| 03:31.43 | Mr_Rabies2 | whereas earthwarden has +6 weapon skill |
| 03:31.59 | Legorol | whereas warden has slightly less AP, and the combined effect of the five boost from weapon skill increase against equal level mobs is 5x 0.24 = 1.2% |
| 03:32.43 | Legorol | so presumably in emmerald's scoring system the slightly higher AP but lower crit increase ends up getting tiny bit more points than the earthwarden's stats |
| 03:32.59 | Legorol | However! and this is the significant part |
| 03:33.11 | Legorol | against mobs higher level than you, weapon skill becomes much more powerful, as i mentioned |
| 03:33.29 | Legorol | i don't know what fights your feeling is based on that earthwarden is better, but for raiding i would definitely take it over the dreamer's |
| 03:34.18 | Mr_Rabies2 | either way i'm probably getting illhoof's sometime |
| 03:34.19 | Legorol | I think that Emmerald is ignoring the effect of weapon skill against higher level opponents, which wouldn't surprise me |
| 03:34.27 | Mr_Rabies2 | check out http://www.gurgleblaster.net/forum/index.php? |
| 03:34.29 | Legorol | it's not that well-known and poorly documented |
| 03:34.35 | Mr_Rabies2 | if you're interested to see his calculations |
| 03:34.38 | Mr_Rabies2 | they're in there somewhere |
| 03:34.41 | Mr_Rabies2 | but i can't find it atm |
| 03:34.55 | Legorol | does emmerald explain anywhere how he calculates the kitty pts? |
| 03:34.59 | Legorol | ok |
| 03:35.03 | Legorol | will check |
| 03:37.14 | Mr_Rabies2 | he also uses some model too |
| 03:37.21 | Mr_Rabies2 | to consider talents and whatnot |
| 03:37.27 | Mr_Rabies2 | for primal fury and stuff |
| 03:37.42 | Legorol | aha, here we go: |
| 03:37.42 | Legorol | +1 Str = 2,40 |
| 03:37.42 | Legorol | +1 Agi = 2,39 |
| 03:37.42 | Legorol | +1 AP = 1,00 |
| 03:37.42 | Legorol | +1 Weapon Skill Rating = 0,89 |
| 03:37.42 | Legorol | +1 Hit Rating = 1,37 |
| 03:37.44 | Legorol | +1 Critical Strike Rating = 1,57 |
| 03:37.49 | Legorol | this is the scoring system he uses |
| 03:38.21 | Mr_Rabies2 | i forget what mobs can't do from behind |
| 03:38.24 | Mr_Rabies2 | parry or dodge? |
| 03:38.30 | Mr_Rabies2 | or can they do both and players can do neither |
| 03:38.33 | Legorol | mob behind you, or you behind mob? |
| 03:38.39 | Mr_Rabies2 | me behind mob |
| 03:38.51 | Legorol | i'm not sure on the latest info, i read contradictory things |
| 03:38.52 | Mr_Rabies2 | i'm gonna be shredding most of the time |
| 03:39.00 | Legorol | it used to be that they can't block and parry, but miss instead |
| 03:39.24 | Legorol | but recently i read that they just can't block and parry, full stop, without it being converted to a miss |
| 03:39.30 | Legorol | this is unverified and i only read it in one place |
| 03:39.52 | Legorol | anyhow |
| 03:40.04 | Legorol | emmerald is underrating weapon skill significantly with that scoring system |
| 03:40.15 | Legorol | that's my opinion and ratingbuster agrees with me |
| 03:41.41 | Mr_Rabies2 | http://www.gurgleblaster.net/forum/index.php?topic=213.0 |
| 03:42.05 | Legorol | Also note the disclaimer, if your stats significantly differ from the base stats he uses for the model, the scores won't be applicable that strongly |
| 03:42.15 | Legorol | do you significantly differ from |
| 03:42.15 | Legorol | Level : 70 |
| 03:42.15 | Legorol | Health : 6500 |
| 03:42.15 | Legorol | Base DPS : 200 |
| 03:42.15 | Legorol | Attack Power : 2000 |
| 03:42.16 | Legorol | Crit% : 25 |
| 03:42.18 | Legorol | +Hit% : 0 |
| 03:43.07 | Mr_Rabies2 | not significantly |
| 03:43.13 | Mr_Rabies2 | except in AP |
| 03:43.23 | Mr_Rabies2 | lemme see |
| 03:43.54 | Mr_Rabies2 | 2249 AP, 237 DPS |
| 03:44.07 | Mr_Rabies2 | 32.8% crit |
| 03:44.12 | Mr_Rabies2 | so yeah |
| 03:44.29 | Mr_Rabies2 | +4.95% hit also |
| 03:44.52 | Mr_Rabies2 | i wish someone would make one that could use floating points based on what you already have |
| 03:45.11 | Mr_Rabies2 | because keeping up with druid gear is such a pain in terms of upgrades and stuff |
| 03:45.21 | Mr_Rabies2 | there's far too many factors to involve :[ |
| 03:45.30 | Legorol | i'm just reading through the thread you linked, thanks for that |
| 03:45.32 | Legorol | it's very interesting |
| 03:45.43 | Legorol | but as you can see, people are pointing out the fact that weapon skill is good in raids |
| 03:45.46 | Mr_Rabies2 | i think this addon might |
| 03:45.50 | Mr_Rabies2 | but it's hard to tell |
| 03:45.56 | Mr_Rabies2 | if it floats based on current stats |
| 03:46.04 | Mr_Rabies2 | Druidtips |
| 03:46.16 | Mr_Rabies2 | http://my.curse.com/account/favorites/go/1230812/ |
| 03:47.08 | Mr_Rabies2 | for a bunch of tree hugging hippies, druids sure do love math |
| 03:47.10 | Mr_Rabies2 | :P |
| 03:48.04 | Mr_Rabies2 | i think it's because every stat has some use to us |
| 03:48.23 | Mr_Rabies2 | some more than others (i'm looking at you crit rating and attack power) |
| 03:48.57 | Mr_Rabies2 | sadly crit rating and attack power are on the vast majority of leather gear out there |
| 03:49.04 | Mr_Rabies2 | instead of STR and AGI :[ |
| 03:51.48 | Legorol | i think for every class, the min-maxers and numbercrunchers will do the numbercrunching :o) |
| 03:51.54 | Legorol | warriors and rogues love to do their part too ;-) |
| 03:52.38 | Legorol | us tank warriors do defense, dodge, parry, block rating, block value, threat generation, magic defense threshold, passive crush immunity etc. |
| 03:53.02 | Mr_Rabies2 | i hate math, but i really like to min-max to retain usefulness versus more 'pure' classes |
| 03:53.02 | Legorol | not to mention scoring systems to compare tanking items |
| 03:53.13 | Legorol | fair enough |
| 03:53.28 | Legorol | so, can you tell me this: under which situations did earthwarden feel more useful? |
| 03:53.30 | Legorol | grinding or raid? |
| 03:53.38 | Mr_Rabies2 | i dunno, i just got dreamer's |
| 03:53.39 | Legorol | it's certainly very very good for raid |
| 03:53.43 | Legorol | ah |
| 03:53.59 | Mr_Rabies2 | i assumed it was better, but don't know of any decent way to test the two out |
| 03:54.05 | Legorol | [03:51] <Mr_Rabies2> for some reason, using emmerald's calculations, the dreamer's dragonstaff is better than earthwarden |
| 03:54.05 | Legorol | [03:51] <Mr_Rabies2> but in personal use i don't see how it could be |
| 03:54.13 | Legorol | from this i assumed you tried both |
| 03:54.24 | Legorol | sorry if i misunderstood |
| 03:54.50 | Mr_Rabies2 | i meant using his table |
| 03:55.17 | Mr_Rabies2 | luckily feral combat skill is pretty rare so worrying about this stuff isn't too common |
| 03:55.46 | Mr_Rabies2 | i think earthwarden is the highest weapon with any except maybe the arena stuff |
| 03:55.49 | sag_ich_nicht | heh |
| 03:55.50 | sag_ich_nicht | and i am done |
| 03:55.57 | sag_ich_nicht | ezmode bunnyhopping >.> |
| 03:57.28 | Mr_Rabies2 | holy wow |
| 03:57.37 | Mr_Rabies2 | i just found a huge memory leak in enhtooltip |
| 03:57.55 | Mr_Rabies2 | highlight an item and watch it increase by about 100KB/s |
| 04:00.57 | Mr_Rabies2 | actually 124/125KB/s |
| 04:01.11 | Rallion | yikes |
| 04:01.16 | Mr_Rabies2 | i move it off the thing and it floats at about 0.8KB/s |
| 04:01.46 | Nom- | LOL |
| 04:01.56 | Rallion | that's actually pretty strange |
| 04:01.58 | Nom- | The Kirin Tor, led by Rhonin, have moved Dalaran |
| 04:02.03 | Rallion | yep |
| 04:02.05 | Nom- | They actually "moved" it??? lol |
| 04:02.28 | Rallion | I wassaying this before, but doesn't it seem like the Kirin Tor is...uh...really stupid? |
| 04:02.34 | Rallion | like, all the time? |
| 04:02.43 | Rallion | like, they mess EVERYTHING up. |
| 04:03.03 | Mr_Rabies2 | that's nothing compared to the abuse of magic the blood elves use |
| 04:03.15 | Mr_Rabies2 | they use small portals to move the water from the bottom of a fountain to the top |
| 04:03.34 | Mr_Rabies2 | that's just asking for a burning legion invasion |
| 04:03.49 | Rallion | yeah, Blood Elves....yeesh. |
| 04:04.07 | Rallion | The Blood Elves have a Naaru imprisoned in their capital. |
| 04:04.46 | Wobin_ | !c us argent dawn meirn |
| 04:04.49 | ThraeBot | Wobin_: Meirn, Level 70 Dwarf Warrior (8/5/48). 12504 HP; 12223 Armour; 566 AP; 116.3 Melee DPS; 12.81% melee crit; 86 melee hit; 320 defense; 15.32% dodge; 23.3% block; [[ Link: http://tinyurl.com/2bfxes ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/36onjr ]] |
| 04:05.12 | Nom- | hmmm |
| 04:05.33 | Nom- | mmo-champion is reporting the release date for WotLC as "unknown but *probably* beginning of 2008" |
| 04:05.43 | Nom- | I wonder where they got that date from ? |
| 04:06.01 | Rallion | they're just making an educated guess, I think |
| 04:06.06 | Wobin_ | out of their arse? |
| 04:06.15 | Mr_Rabies2 | based on the 1 exp a year theory |
| 04:06.17 | Nom- | I hope so, that's too soon |
| 04:06.20 | Mr_Rabies2 | er plan |
| 04:06.26 | Rallion | I would personally guess a little bit later than 'beginning' |
| 04:06.33 | Nom- | I don't think we'll be much past SSC and TK before then |
| 04:06.35 | Rallion | maybe 'early-middle' |
| 04:06.37 | Mr_Rabies2 | i'm expecting may-july |
| 04:06.42 | Rallion | same here |
| 04:06.55 | Rallion | leaning on the side of early june |
| 04:08.18 | Rallion | hmm |
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| 04:09.07 | Rallion | apparently, with my setup, at least, Enchantrix prevents EnhTooltip from showing up on the 'static' tooltips that come up when you click a chat link |
| 04:09.12 | Nom- | That's not too bad, if it's that far away |
| 04:09.17 | Nom- | Guess we'll have to wait and see |
| 04:09.40 | Nom- | We're going at the pace of about 1 new boss per raid week, which, if it's early 2008 doesn't give us long to finish SSC |
| 04:11.03 | Nom- | wtb wowjutsu update :P |
| 04:11.11 | Nom- | We haven't been updated to show hydross yet :( |
| 04:21.41 | sag_ich_nicht | [06:03] <Mr_Rabies2> that's just asking for a burning legion invasion <--more like, that's just asking for the blue dragonflight to go mad at them and try to eradicate them. |
| 04:22.13 | Nom- | I'm really looking forward to Zul'Aman |
| 04:22.18 | Nom- | Another 10 man to have fun in :) |
| 04:22.23 | Mr_Rabies2 | because the burning legion will invade, sag_ich_nicht :P |
| 04:22.29 | Nom- | Coz 25-man raids are SRS business |
| 04:22.31 | Mr_Rabies2 | that's why malygos is so pissed off |
| 04:22.33 | Mr_Rabies2 | he's like |
| 04:22.44 | Mr_Rabies2 | OH GOD SO MUCH MAGIC USE THE BURNING LEGION WILL RETURN *angry* |
| 04:23.05 | Mr_Rabies2 | i agree with malygos |
| 04:23.08 | Mr_Rabies2 | damn magic users :[ |
| 04:24.01 | sag_ich_nicht | no |
| 04:24.07 | sag_ich_nicht | malygos is mad |
| 04:24.15 | sag_ich_nicht | because the demon soul damaged his damn brain |
| 04:24.31 | Mr_Rabies2 | he's insane atm, yes |
| 04:24.48 | Mr_Rabies2 | but he's going to regain his normality when the nether drakes heal him |
| 04:24.52 | Mr_Rabies2 | and when he gets back to sanity |
| 04:24.59 | Mr_Rabies2 | he's going to look up, see all the magic users |
| 04:25.05 | Mr_Rabies2 | and go OH GOD WHAT HAPPENED |
| 04:28.40 | Rallion | he's gonna tear my shadow priest's head off. |
| 04:31.08 | Mr_Rabies2 | and i'm going to sit there chuckling with all the other druids saying "I TOLD YOU SO" |
| 04:31.37 | Mr_Rabies2 | actually i don't think the shadow is the same type of shadow as, say, warlock magic |
| 04:31.53 | Mr_Rabies2 | i think priests are in the clear when it comes to abusing magic |
| 04:32.02 | Mr_Rabies2 | it's mostly mages and warlocks that have to worry |
| 04:32.39 | sag_ich_nicht | well |
| 04:33.53 | sag_ich_nicht | we have Alexstrasza and Krasus on our side |
| 04:34.11 | sag_ich_nicht | were we=humans, elves and dwarven :P |
| 04:34.25 | Mr_Rabies2 | i agree with Malygos >:[ |
| 04:34.29 | sag_ich_nicht | so GG horde, you're gonna die |
| 04:34.44 | Mr_Rabies2 | it was azshara and xavian's damn fault that the legion showed up in the first place\ |
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| 04:35.00 | sag_ich_nicht | well |
| 04:35.04 | Mr_Rabies2 | if those dumb highborne hadn't abused magic so willynilly we wouldn't have a problem >:[ |
| 04:35.08 | sag_ich_nicht | the legion shouldn't bloody exist. |
| 04:35.21 | sag_ich_nicht | thus |
| 04:35.24 | sag_ich_nicht | destroy legion |
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| 04:35.34 | Mr_Rabies2 | they have |
| 04:35.35 | sag_ich_nicht | gain magic use. |
| 04:35.41 | Mr_Rabies2 | an angry titan |
| 04:35.43 | Mr_Rabies2 | on their side D: |
| 04:35.53 | sag_ich_nicht | so? |
| 04:36.13 | Mr_Rabies2 | he can flick the planets around like pinballs |
| 04:36.27 | Mr_Rabies2 | crush them with one finger |
| 04:36.31 | Mr_Rabies2 | you don't wanna mess with sargeras |
| 04:36.35 | sag_ich_nicht | Sargeras is pussy :O |
| 04:36.38 | sag_ich_nicht | *is a |
| 04:37.55 | sag_ich_nicht | Aggramar > Sargeras |
| 04:40.33 | Kirkburn | Nuh-uh, Aman'Thul > All |
| 04:41.44 | sag_ich_nicht | UH |
| 04:41.50 | sag_ich_nicht | *uh |
| 04:43.02 | sag_ich_nicht | Aman'Thul > Aggramar > Sargeras |
| 04:43.25 | Rallion | But...isn't Sargeras MIA? |
| 04:43.30 | Rallion | did I miss something there? |
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| 04:46.28 | sag_ich_nicht | also |
| 04:46.32 | sag_ich_nicht | Sargeras isn't MIA |
| 04:46.36 | sag_ich_nicht | he doesn't have a body. |
| 04:48.14 | Kirkburn | Therefore you might be able to say Insect > Sargeras :) |
| 04:48.57 | Rallion | might as well be MIA, as in, hey, where is he? can't find him. missing. |
| 04:50.52 | Mr_Rabies2 | The orcish warlock Gul'dan believed the Tomb of Sargeras to hold amazing power, since he had been told as much by both Medivh and the eredar demon Kil'jaeden. Gul’dan attempted to claim the tomb for himself, but when he gained access to the grave, Sargeras' corpse was not there. |
| 04:51.10 | Mr_Rabies2 | we just don't know WHERE his body is |
| 04:51.14 | Mr_Rabies2 | doesn't mean it's missing D: |
| 04:51.22 | Mr_Rabies2 | er, he has none, rather |
| 04:51.50 | Rallion | fair enough |
| 04:52.28 | Mr_Rabies2 | so yes, he's basically MIA |
| 04:52.52 | sag_ich_nicht | btw. we wallclimbed into quel'thalas earlier |
| 04:52.55 | sag_ich_nicht | and wrote a GM ticket |
| 04:53.10 | sag_ich_nicht | and the GM either didn't know what quel'thalas is and didn't check our position on the map |
| 04:53.14 | sag_ich_nicht | or simply didn't care. |
| 04:53.30 | sag_ich_nicht | D: |
| 04:53.41 | Mr_Rabies2 | they probably don't really care as long as you don't exploit it for exp and stuff |
| 04:53.42 | sag_ich_nicht | (it's all even with a few holes in the ground btw.) |
| 04:53.50 | Mr_Rabies2 | yeah i went there a few years back |
| 04:53.53 | Mr_Rabies2 | on a whim |
| 04:53.57 | Mr_Rabies2 | then again after bc opened |
| 04:53.59 | Mr_Rabies2 | same thing |
| 04:54.17 | Mr_Rabies2 | there's a dock on the very edge |
| 04:54.18 | Rallion | hmm, I think there's an infinite loop in the newest Auctioneer release |
| 04:54.18 | Mr_Rabies2 | if i recall |
| 04:54.27 | Nom- | Ooo... they're making it so ret pallies don't need to worry about spell damage at all? :D |
| 04:54.30 | Nom- | That's soooo good |
| 04:54.36 | sag_ich_nicht | Nom- mhm? |
| 04:54.44 | sag_ich_nicht | link? or just general blizzcon talk? |
| 04:54.45 | Mr_Rabies2 | oh hey auctioneer finally got updated? |
| 04:54.47 | Nom- | Saw it mentioned on mmo-champion |
| 04:55.11 | Mr_Rabies2 | maybe they'll make it so that druids don't have to focus on 20 stats at once to be useful in the meantime |
| 04:56.02 | Nom- | Yeah, 'twas in the blizzcon info |
| 04:56.03 | Nom- | Stat distribution will be changed for retribution paladins, spell damage won't be as much needed as before. |
| 04:56.08 | Rallion | yeah, Rabies, but when I try to bid on an item in the search window that already has a higher bid, my chat window just gets flooded with "there is already a higher bid on that item' and, afaik, there's no way to stop it but a reload |
| 04:56.20 | Mr_Rabies2 | rofl |
| 04:56.29 | Mr_Rabies2 | may wanna report it in their channel or on their tracker D: |
| 04:56.58 | sag_ich_nicht | Mr_Rabies druids only have to focus on 2 stats, except resto druids :P |
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| 04:57.15 | sag_ich_nicht | well, three actually |
| 04:57.28 | Rallion | yeah, it's pretty serious, I'm doing it now |
| 04:57.30 | sag_ich_nicht | either dodge/stamina/armor, or spelldmg/spellcrit/int :P |
| 04:57.53 | sag_ich_nicht | resto druids otoh... well lol. |
| 04:57.54 | Nom- | lol druids have it so easy :P |
| 04:58.22 | Nom- | I've got (not counting resistance sets) no less than 4 sets of gear |
| 04:58.24 | sag_ich_nicht | only thing they can complain about is moonkin itemization which is a joke and treeform being crap. |
| 04:58.31 | sag_ich_nicht | so? |
| 04:58.50 | AnduinLothar | ret pally stats are the worst |
| 04:58.50 | Nom- | It's rather painful :( |
| 04:58.51 | sag_ich_nicht | i'm a paladin, i also have 3 sets, druids ARE the class that has to have the most sets, your problem :P |
| 04:58.58 | sag_ich_nicht | AnduinLothar is correct |
| 04:59.04 | Nom- | sag_ich_nicht: You've only got 3 sets? |
| 04:59.04 | sag_ich_nicht | also your spec is still mad, karl. |
| 04:59.14 | AnduinLothar | mad? |
| 04:59.22 | Nom- | I've got Retribution DPS, Healing, Holy DPS, Tanking |
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| 04:59.29 | Nom- | And now I'm going to have to start building a Protection DPS set |
| 04:59.32 | AnduinLothar | +pvp |
| 04:59.39 | Nom- | I don't even have a PvP set yet |
| 05:00.03 | sag_ich_nicht | Nom- heal, tank, ret. what else you want? spelldmg? i can't afford that :P and pvp is meh, not much of a difference here, until blizz fixes that |
| 05:00.16 | Nom- | Holy DPS gear, sag_ich_nicht |
| 05:00.18 | sag_ich_nicht | *cough*noresilenceonretgladiatorgear*cough* |
| 05:00.19 | JunkHead-Work | Morning guys. |
| 05:00.24 | sag_ich_nicht | Nom- that would be spelldmg. |
| 05:00.27 | sag_ich_nicht | i am deep ret |
| 05:00.28 | Nom- | Exactly |
| 05:00.35 | Nom- | Yeah, well you're spoilt :P |
| 05:00.39 | sag_ich_nicht | i don't need a holy dps set, it would be gimp³ |
| 05:00.50 | Nom- | Try DPSing with ret gear as holy |
| 05:00.51 | Nom- | Doesn't work |
| 05:00.52 | JunkHead-Work | Pally talk... great... |
| 05:00.59 | sag_ich_nicht | Nom-: i know |
| 05:01.07 | AnduinLothar | ret pallies need every stat except spirit, spell hit and spell crit |
| 05:01.18 | sag_ich_nicht | we need spellhit actually |
| 05:01.18 | Nom- | AnduinLothar: I know, it's painful |
| 05:01.23 | AnduinLothar | nah |
| 05:01.27 | sag_ich_nicht | well |
| 05:01.34 | JunkHead-Work | My paladin has 2 sets of gear currently. |
| 05:01.34 | Nom- | no, we do need spell hit and crit too, but not as much as melee stats |
| 05:01.46 | JunkHead-Work | Healing Set, and I am working on a Semi-Tanking set. |
| 05:01.48 | sag_ich_nicht | not "need", but blizz is funny and calculating the hit for judgement of command with spellhit |
| 05:02.14 | Nom- | strength, agi, stamina, crit rating are more important, but to get maximum dps you need a decent amount of spell damage too |
| 05:02.31 | Mr_Rabies2 | <sag_ich_nicht> either dodge/stamina/armor, or spelldmg/spellcrit/int :P |
| 05:02.32 | Mr_Rabies2 | uhhh |
| 05:02.38 | Nom- | That's why the retriubition set has +spell damage, +int in addition to melee stats |
| 05:03.03 | AnduinLothar | i hope they just make it so eithe ret doesn't need as much int or doesn't use spell dmg, or both |
| 05:03.08 | sag_ich_nicht | the retribution set is also the only god damn item in the game that has these stats, and still sucks. |
| 05:03.13 | Mr_Rabies2 | stam/agi/armor/def/str/dodge/AP/crit rating/hit rating |
| 05:03.30 | sag_ich_nicht | druid tanks are fine |
| 05:03.31 | sag_ich_nicht | l2p |
| 05:03.33 | sag_ich_nicht | srsly. |
| 05:03.34 | Mr_Rabies2 | uh |
| 05:03.43 | Mr_Rabies2 | the tanking stats aren't bad |
| 05:03.48 | Mr_Rabies2 | but there's more to being a feral than tanking |
| 05:03.58 | sag_ich_nicht | get. a. cat. gear. |
| 05:03.59 | Nom- | rogue leather man |
| 05:04.07 | Mr_Rabies2 | rogue leather isn't nearly as good for us |
| 05:04.09 | sag_ich_nicht | you can't tank and dps in the same gear. |
| 05:04.13 | Nom- | stack the rogue leather like it's going out of style |
| 05:04.21 | Mr_Rabies2 | AP and crit rating are major parts of rogue leather |
| 05:04.30 | Mr_Rabies2 | we need Str and AGI, not AP and crit rating |
| 05:04.30 | sag_ich_nicht | so don't QQ me about that, you need more gear, but your itemisation and stats and talents are okay |
| 05:04.34 | Nom- | which is what you need for cat gear |
| 05:04.41 | Mr_Rabies2 | no, nom |
| 05:04.43 | Mr_Rabies2 | we need Str and Agi |
| 05:04.54 | Mr_Rabies2 | we're wasting item points getting AP and crit rating |
| 05:04.59 | Nom- | err |
| 05:05.04 | Nom- | str and agi BECOME ap |
| 05:05.06 | Mr_Rabies2 | yes |
| 05:05.09 | sag_ich_nicht | if i see a druid in tank gear in bearform nearly outdpsing a ret paladin with deep thunder, there is something wrong |
| 05:05.10 | Mr_Rabies2 | but it's more expensive |
| 05:05.11 | sag_ich_nicht | so stfu. |
| 05:05.24 | Mr_Rabies2 | to add the equivalent AP in AP than STR |
| 05:05.24 | Nom- | I'm pretty sure you don't scale with str and agi like paladin does with str |
| 05:05.39 | sag_ich_nicht | 1 str=2 AP for a paladin. |
| 05:05.43 | AnduinLothar | it doesn't scale enough imo |
| 05:05.46 | Mr_Rabies2 | ours is 2.46, Nom- |
| 05:05.49 | AnduinLothar | needs to be 25% |
| 05:05.49 | Mr_Rabies2 | er |
| 05:05.50 | Mr_Rabies2 | sag |
| 05:05.58 | Nom- | 1 str = 2.2 ap for paladin actually |
| 05:06.09 | Nom- | err 2.1 ap i mean |
| 05:06.11 | Mr_Rabies2 | 1 str = 2.46 AP for a druid |
| 05:06.20 | Nom- | unless you're a nub and didn't get the holy talent |
| 05:06.20 | Mr_Rabies2 | 1 agi = 1 ap and some crit |
| 05:06.33 | sag_ich_nicht | Nom- still 1 str=2 ap |
| 05:06.40 | sag_ich_nicht | just more str from str gear. |
| 05:07.05 | Mr_Rabies2 | it's more expensive to a budget to add, 25 AP than it is to add 12 STR |
| 05:07.27 | Mr_Rabies2 | but most of the gear out there has AP instead of STR |
| 05:07.52 | Nom- | You might want to rethink that Mr_Rabies2 |
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| 05:08.11 | Nom- | Druid formula is str - 10 * 2 = AP |
| 05:08.27 | Nom- | agility only adds crit and armor |
| 05:08.29 | Mr_Rabies2 | it's more expensive to add 24 crit strike rating than 25 agi, but 25 AGI is more dps overall than 24 crit strike rating |
| 05:08.31 | Mr_Rabies2 | uhhh |
| 05:08.32 | Mr_Rabies2 | dude |
| 05:08.34 | Mr_Rabies2 | research |
| 05:08.35 | Mr_Rabies2 | please |
| 05:08.37 | Mr_Rabies2 | damn |
| 05:08.39 | Nom- | I just did |
| 05:08.46 | Mr_Rabies2 | 1 Agi = 1 AP in cat form |
| 05:08.51 | Mr_Rabies2 | and crit, dodge, and armor |
| 05:09.19 | Mr_Rabies2 | for a feral druid with heart of the wold and survival of the fittest, 1 str on an item = 2.46 AP |
| 05:09.22 | Mr_Rabies2 | wild* |
| 05:09.54 | Mr_Rabies2 | if you're gonna gang up on me, do your research first before you get all angry |
| 05:10.23 | Mr_Rabies2 | rogue gear is a waste of item points for us |
| 05:10.28 | Nom- | Cat form is 40 + agility |
| 05:10.47 | sag_ich_nicht | we aren't ganging up on you, we are telling you to stop the QQ, feral DPS and tanking are both god damn friggin fine. |
| 05:10.47 | Mr_Rabies2 | plus the STR formula |
| 05:10.56 | Nom- | I've not seen much leather with str |
| 05:11.04 | Mr_Rabies2 | because it's not itemized well, nom |
| 05:11.08 | Mr_Rabies2 | it's rogue gear, not feral druid gear |
| 05:11.15 | Nom- | It's itemised fine |
| 05:11.25 | Mr_Rabies2 | no, they're wasting item points putting AP instead of STR |
| 05:11.31 | sag_ich_nicht | god... |
| 05:11.33 | Mr_Rabies2 | and crit rating instead of AGI |
| 05:11.36 | Nom- | And you'll find there's a good reason for that |
| 05:11.44 | Nom- | ie. So you don't become too OP |
| 05:11.49 | Mr_Rabies2 | ohh okay |
| 05:12.00 | Mr_Rabies2 | so it's cool if they make all the warlock gear have agi on it |
| 05:12.16 | Nom- | Think about it...if you had access to leather with the same stats as retribution dps gear |
| 05:12.21 | Nom- | You'd have 3000 AP or more |
| 05:12.34 | Mr_Rabies2 | which is still less dps than a rogue with 2000 AP |
| 05:12.38 | sag_ich_nicht | Nom- |
| 05:12.48 | sag_ich_nicht | there are already feral druids with 3000 AP. |
| 05:12.53 | sag_ich_nicht | spoilers. |
| 05:12.57 | Mr_Rabies2 | yep, because we don't use weapons |
| 05:13.04 | sag_ich_nicht | also you aren't supposed to do the same DPS as rogues. |
| 05:13.06 | Mr_Rabies2 | our weapons are 66 DPS |
| 05:13.10 | sag_ich_nicht | http://www.wowhead.com/?items=4.2&filter=qu=3:4;minrl=70;maxrl=70;cr=20;crs=1;crv=0 |
| 05:13.12 | Nom- | sag_ich_nicht: I'm sure there is, but I doubt they're doing just Karazhan...they're probably in arena S2 gear |
| 05:13.20 | Mr_Rabies2 | most of the gear with STR is tier sets |
| 05:13.23 | sag_ich_nicht | Nom- no, not really. |
| 05:13.33 | Mr_Rabies2 | and instead of wasting item points on AP and Crit rating |
| 05:13.35 | Nom- | There's also rogues who auto attack for 1000+ damage on bosses with < 1 second main/offhand |
| 05:13.39 | Mr_Rabies2 | they waste it on healing and Int |
| 05:13.41 | Nom- | But they're in Black Temple |
| 05:13.58 | Mr_Rabies2 | guess how much i autoattack for |
| 05:14.01 | Mr_Rabies2 | usually about 150 |
| 05:14.09 | Mr_Rabies2 | in 2500 AP |
| 05:14.11 | sag_ich_nicht | okay wait |
| 05:14.15 | sag_ich_nicht | let's take sets out then |
| 05:14.15 | sag_ich_nicht | http://www.wowhead.com/?items=4.2&filter=qu=3:4;minrl=70;maxrl=70;cr=20:12;crs=1:2;crv=0:0 |
| 05:14.40 | Mr_Rabies2 | sag |
| 05:14.44 | Mr_Rabies2 | see how those items show up on.... |
| 05:14.44 | Mr_Rabies2 | this |
| 05:14.53 | Mr_Rabies2 | http://www.gurgleblaster.net/emmerald/Cat_Sustained_DPS/Head.html |
| 05:15.07 | Mr_Rabies2 | almost all the best gear except for tiers is +AP/Crit rating |
| 05:15.07 | Nom- | At least you can find DPS gear for your spec outside of PVP :) |
| 05:15.13 | Nom- | Even if it's not the best |
| 05:15.35 | Mr_Rabies2 | so because pallies have it bad it's cool if we do too? |
| 05:15.43 | Nom- | You don't have it bad |
| 05:15.44 | sag_ich_nicht | you. don't. have. it. bad. |
| 05:15.51 | Mr_Rabies2 | because i'm fine if pallies get fixed, as long as they add more STR/AGI leather |
| 05:15.56 | Nom- | You can find gear which is quite suitable |
| 05:16.05 | sag_ich_nicht | exactly. |
| 05:16.10 | Nom- | And quite frankly, who cares if it's not the absolute most perfect for your spec |
| 05:16.25 | Mr_Rabies2 | people who play that spec |
| 05:16.26 | Nom- | Try finding me a set of plate with spell damage and spell crit outside of PvP or Black Temple |
| 05:16.36 | Nom- | I'm not going to holy my breath |
| 05:16.38 | Nom- | :) |
| 05:16.39 | sag_ich_nicht | the 2 best feral druids on our server aren't complaining about this either, Mr_Rabies. |
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| 05:16.59 | sag_ich_nicht | and they do a friggin insane amount of damage |
| 05:17.26 | Mr_Rabies2 | i'm sure they're in tier sets |
| 05:17.33 | Mr_Rabies2 | and tier 4-5 aren't even all that great either |
| 05:17.36 | sag_ich_nicht | in dps gear? no, not really. |
| 05:17.48 | Mr_Rabies2 | they waste itemization points on casting stats for some reason |
| 05:17.51 | Mr_Rabies2 | as does the arena gear |
| 05:18.06 | sag_ich_nicht | spoiler: it's so you can shift out and heal yourself. |
| 05:18.37 | sag_ich_nicht | without it being a waste of time and mana |
| 05:18.44 | sag_ich_nicht | because, noes, you are not stuck in cat form! |
| 05:19.05 | Mr_Rabies2 | yeah shift out and heal myself for 2500 |
| 05:19.05 | Mr_Rabies2 | woo |
| 05:19.09 | Mr_Rabies2 | that's a lot of help |
| 05:19.22 | Mr_Rabies2 | (in 3-3.5 sec) |
| 05:19.45 | sag_ich_nicht | uh |
| 05:19.46 | sag_ich_nicht | cyclone |
| 05:19.47 | sag_ich_nicht | hello |
| 05:19.51 | Mr_Rabies2 | hahahaha |
| 05:20.00 | sag_ich_nicht | more heals, hots that heal you while you are already shifted back in |
| 05:20.05 | Mr_Rabies2 | i'm not bothering arguing with you anymore, that's just wow |
| 05:20.06 | Mr_Rabies2 | i'm done |
| 05:20.19 | sag_ich_nicht | hf |
| 05:20.47 | Mr_Rabies2 | that's like those people that say "but clinton did x" everytime someone brings up one of the times bush dropped the ball |
| 05:21.04 | Nom- | Feral druids need far less work than Retribution Paladins, I can tell you that right now |
| 05:21.06 | sag_ich_nicht | wow |
| 05:21.10 | Mr_Rabies2 | nom, i agree |
| 05:21.14 | Mr_Rabies2 | but that doesn't mean we don't need work |
| 05:21.23 | sag_ich_nicht | [07:20] -Mr_Rabies- BLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLREOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO SRUNCHI SCRUNCH CRUNCH SCRUNCH GRUNGA MOW MOW MOW MOW BLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLREOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO SRUNCHI SCRUNCH CRUNCH SCRUNCH GRUNGA MOW MOW MOW MOW BLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLREOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO SRUNCHI SCRUNCH CRUNCH SCRUNCH GRUNGA MOW MOW MOW MOW BLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLREOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO |
| 05:21.23 | sag_ich_nicht | [07:20] -Mr_Rabies2- STOP SLAPPING ME NOOB STOP SLAPPING ME NOOB STOP SLAPPING ME NOOB STOP SLAPPING ME NOOB STOP SLAPPING ME NOOB STOP SLAPPING ME NOOB STOP SLAPPING ME NOOB STOP SLAPPING ME NOOB STOP SLAPPING ME NOOB STOP SLAPPING ME NOOB STOP SLAPPING ME NOOB STOP SLAPPING ME NOOB STOP SLAPPING ME NOOB STOP SLAPPING ME NOOB STOP SLAPPING ME NOOB STOP SLAPPING ME NOOB STOP SLAPPING ME NOOB STOP SLAPPING ME NOOB STOP SLAPPING ME NO |
| 05:21.28 | sag_ich_nicht | that doesn't help either, Mr_Rabies |
| 05:21.32 | Mr_Rabies2 | it's automated |
| 05:21.35 | sag_ich_nicht | spamming me in notice. |
| 05:21.36 | sag_ich_nicht | turn it off. |
| 05:21.39 | Mr_Rabies2 | nah |
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| 05:21.52 | Mr_Rabies2 | it's meant to be annoying, and thus it stays :D |
| 05:21.58 | Mr_Rabies2 | it's when you emote at me |
| 05:22.10 | Mr_Rabies2 | sure it has some undesired side effects here and there, but overall it's positive |
| 05:22.16 | sag_ich_nicht | no, it isn't. |
| 05:22.17 | Mr_Rabies2 | it's a good way to stop people from spam-emoting me |
| 05:22.26 | sag_ich_nicht | because it just means i make a dedicated notice ignore for you |
| 05:22.31 | sag_ich_nicht | and continue to spam you with emotes |
| 05:22.32 | sag_ich_nicht | like this |
| 05:22.40 | Mr_Rabies2 | i've had a couple people do that |
| 05:22.47 | Mr_Rabies2 | i don't have anything against it |
| 05:23.14 | Mr_Rabies2 | if you're willing to script a way around it i have no problems with it :P |
| 05:23.19 | sag_ich_nicht | i also did |
| 05:23.26 | sag_ich_nicht | *i already did |
| 05:23.27 | sag_ich_nicht | damnit |
| 05:23.56 | Nom- | Did you see the fixes announced for Retribtion Paladins ? |
| 05:23.58 | sag_ich_nicht | also a druid in tank/dps hybrid equip in bear outlasting your mana then shifting into catform and killing you-->you don't need any damn help :P |
| 05:24.10 | sag_ich_nicht | uh |
| 05:24.11 | sag_ich_nicht | no. |
| 05:24.18 | sag_ich_nicht | because it has all been only vague |
| 05:24.22 | sag_ich_nicht | "we will do something" |
| 05:24.25 | sag_ich_nicht | "we will fix it" |
| 05:24.41 | Nom- | They're making vengeance stack 5 times |
| 05:24.45 | Nom- | Lasts 30 seconds instead of 15 |
| 05:24.48 | sag_ich_nicht | "we have some changes there at the demo stations that we are trying out but we are not telling anyone" |
| 05:25.00 | Mr_Rabies2 | paladins in any gear outlasting 3 people DPSing them while healing themselves or the party -> you don't need any damn help |
| 05:25.00 | Nom- | But I presume each stack is only 3% instead of 5%, so the same overall effect, just easier to sustain |
| 05:25.12 | sag_ich_nicht | Mr_Rabies LOL |
| 05:25.15 | Nom- | Mr_Rabies2: Err.... the only spec that can do that is holy |
| 05:25.17 | sag_ich_nicht | you just lost any credibility. |
| 05:25.22 | sag_ich_nicht | the only spec that can do that is holy |
| 05:25.27 | Nom- | Mr_Rabies2: Any other spec will be oom so fast it's not funny |
| 05:25.38 | Nom- | I know holy can do it, because i've done it |
| 05:25.40 | sag_ich_nicht | a retribution or prot pala have maybe 5k mana. |
| 05:25.42 | Mr_Rabies2 | i know. it's called hyperbole, like what you guys are doing |
| 05:25.49 | Nom- | Took 2 hunters and an MS warrior to kill me in holy spec |
| 05:25.52 | Mr_Rabies2 | because if a druid is outlasting any damage, he can't do ANY damage |
| 05:26.09 | sag_ich_nicht | i said specifically outlasting you |
| 05:26.18 | Nom- | pfft... neither can a holy specced paladin |
| 05:26.20 | Mr_Rabies2 | outlasting who? |
| 05:26.25 | Mr_Rabies2 | exactly nom |
| 05:26.28 | Mr_Rabies2 | the difference is |
| 05:26.51 | Mr_Rabies2 | if a druid's soaking up damage, he's not helping the party except for keeping that damage off someone else |
| 05:26.52 | sag_ich_nicht | and the only 2 dps classes you can't outlast with that tactic is a mage(sometimes) and a warlock. :P |
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| 05:27.32 | Nom- | It sounds like you're expecting your feral druid to be godlike |
| 05:27.36 | Mr_Rabies2 | a druid in bear form is about as useful as a prot warrior in arenas |
| 05:27.46 | Nom- | I'm sorry, but feral druids are MS Warriors/Rogues |
| 05:27.48 | Mr_Rabies2 | a druid in cat form is like a rogue with less itemization |
| 05:27.54 | Mr_Rabies2 | no, not at all nom |
| 05:27.55 | Nom- | They're not holy paladins |
| 05:28.01 | Mr_Rabies2 | i do about 200 dps in bear gear at the most |
| 05:28.07 | sag_ich_nicht | then your bear gear sucks. |
| 05:28.12 | Mr_Rabies2 | no, that's what bear gear is |
| 05:28.19 | Nom- | Why are you in bear gear in arena? |
| 05:28.21 | sag_ich_nicht | no, your bear gear sucks, that's what it does. |
| 05:28.24 | Mr_Rabies2 | if i want to do more damage, i sacrifice survivability |
| 05:28.33 | Mr_Rabies2 | nom, because otherwise i get killed in seconds |
| 05:28.40 | sag_ich_nicht | no, your bear gear sacrifices aggro if you do that little dps. |
| 05:28.48 | Mr_Rabies2 | not really |
| 05:28.52 | Mr_Rabies2 | most of my aggro comes from lacerate |
| 05:28.55 | Mr_Rabies2 | which does about 30 dps |
| 05:29.05 | Mr_Rabies2 | mangle crits for about 1000 |
| 05:29.17 | Mr_Rabies2 | unless i'm in dps gear, in which case i have 8000 HP and 10000 armor |
| 05:29.34 | Nom- | Then you need better cat gear |
| 05:29.45 | Nom- | Our Karazhan cats have 10k hitpoints in cat form |
| 05:29.46 | sag_ich_nicht | you are doing it wrong then, because you have me in your party for 5 minutes and i guarantee you i'll pull aggro in less than 15 seconds, even if i let you tank the boss for 30 seconds while doing nothing. |
| 05:29.49 | Mr_Rabies2 | my cat gear's about the best you can get halfway into kara |
| 05:29.56 | Mr_Rabies2 | what AP do they have, nom? |
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| 05:30.36 | sag_ich_nicht | Mr_Rabies armory link, give it :P |
| 05:30.42 | Mr_Rabies2 | i'm sitting at about 2500 which isn't -great- but it's pretty good for someone with only a couple pieces of kara gear |
| 05:30.44 | Nom- | 1178 in flight form |
| 05:30.48 | Nom- | so whatever that works out to be :P |
| 05:30.53 | Mr_Rabies2 | doesn't help |
| 05:31.14 | Mr_Rabies2 | because you have to see how much agi they have too |
| 05:31.30 | Mr_Rabies2 | and their feral weap |
| 05:31.33 | Nom- | !c Stormscale Kakeka |
| 05:31.39 | Nom- | !char Stormscale Kakeka |
| 05:31.46 | Nom- | BrokenBot(tm) |
| 05:32.06 | Mr_Rabies2 | i don't understand why you guys got so hostile |
| 05:32.11 | Nom- | 481 agi |
| 05:32.22 | Nom- | 647 from weapon |
| 05:32.39 | Mr_Rabies2 | i need a better weapon |
| 05:32.48 | Mr_Rabies2 | but that doesn't increase my survivability |
| 05:33.23 | Nom- | 2306 not counting any extra he might get from spec |
| 05:34.09 | Nom- | Well, because, every single druid i've spoken too in game has not once complained about cat form dps or survivability |
| 05:34.16 | Nom- | It seems like you want too much from your class |
| 05:34.37 | Mr_Rabies2 | ask them if they'd rather have more STR gear or do they like their rogue gear better |
| 05:34.40 | Nom- | Compare this to Retribution Paladins, who are constantly slammed for their DPS, Aggro Control and Raid Utility |
| 05:35.12 | Nom- | I've not once seen a feral druid (who knows how to play) get slammed for not doing decent dps or controlling their aggro |
| 05:35.31 | JunkHead-Work | I like Druids. |
| 05:35.52 | Mr_Rabies2 | Nom, i've never once said pallies are fine except when i was talking in complete hyperbole |
| 05:36.19 | sag_ich_nicht | btw. |
| 05:36.21 | Mr_Rabies2 | just to counter sag_ich_nicht's hyperbole about some kind of magical hybrid gear that gives us 15000 HP, 3000 AP and 40% crit |
| 05:36.24 | Nom- | No, but you're talking like you think your gear is complete crap |
| 05:36.33 | Mr_Rabies2 | i've never said that |
| 05:36.35 | sag_ich_nicht | earlier today i was getting flamed for being ret and deffing stables, buttnaked except for my weapon, yet was first in the damage and kill list. discuss. (don't ask why i was naked. just don't.) |
| 05:36.41 | Mr_Rabies2 | i'm saying they're wasting itemization points |
| 05:36.43 | Nom- | That's what you sound like though, Mr_Rabies2 |
| 05:36.48 | Mr_Rabies2 | because it's rogue gear, not feral gear |
| 05:37.28 | Mr_Rabies2 | i'm saying we're not itemized well based on the direction our stats and talents seem to point in |
| 05:38.19 | sag_ich_nicht | your dps is fine and not OP, thus the conclusion has to be: your current itemization is that way to prevent you from getting OP. |
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| 05:38.51 | Mr_Rabies2 | it seems like druid dps gear should have the following stats: Str, Agi, Stam, with a bit of hit rating thrown in here and there |
| 05:39.14 | Mr_Rabies2 | instead we get AP, Stam, Crit Rating, with a ton of hit rating and a bit of AGI here and there |
| 05:39.21 | Mr_Rabies2 | (rogue gear) |
| 05:41.32 | sag_ich_nicht | what. |
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| 05:42.11 | Mr_Rabies2 | the tier sets push us in the right direction, but it's not until tier 6 that they get it closest to right |
| 05:42.26 | sag_ich_nicht | okay HALT |
| 05:42.28 | sag_ich_nicht | change of topic |
| 05:42.30 | sag_ich_nicht | P=NP |
| 05:42.31 | sag_ich_nicht | http://www.opticsexpress.org/abstract.cfm?id=140598 |
| 05:42.46 | ckknight | no, still intractible |
| 05:42.50 | Mr_Rabies2 | you want an optic sex press? |
| 05:42.54 | Mr_Rabies2 | D: |
| 05:43.01 | JunkHead-Work | Wow. |
| 05:43.11 | JunkHead-Work | That is the most interesting link I've seen in years. |
| 05:43.17 | JunkHead-Work | Not really... |
| 05:43.21 | JunkHead-Work | But yeah. |
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| 05:44.57 | Mr_Rabies2 | i really was wary to click on that link |
| 05:45.06 | Mr_Rabies2 | because i misread opticsexpress as optic sex press |
| 05:45.24 | JunkHead-Work | Yeah. |
| 05:45.32 | JunkHead-Work | And you got there and noticed there are no pictures. |
| 05:45.37 | Mr_Rabies2 | yeah |
| 05:45.41 | Mr_Rabies2 | it conjured all kinds of images |
| 05:45.45 | Mr_Rabies2 | mostly frightening ones |
| 05:46.08 | JunkHead-Work | I tried reading it. I saw big words. My head hurted. I quit reading. |
| 05:46.15 | Mr_Rabies2 | same thing |
| 05:46.32 | sag_ich_nicht | oh go away. |
| 05:46.47 | Mr_Rabies2 | you need to calm down mang |
| 05:47.08 | Mr_Rabies2 | i was trying to have a rational conversation and i get gangraped by the angry paladins :[ |
| 05:47.18 | JunkHead-Work | <-- Happy Paladin. |
| 05:47.41 | Mr_Rabies2 | i had a ret paladin dps for the first time for me |
| 05:47.52 | Mr_Rabies2 | i'm happy to have them going for it |
| 05:48.14 | Mr_Rabies2 | i don't discriminate based on spec, just on player stupidity |
| 05:48.19 | Mr_Rabies2 | this paladin wasn't the smartest but whatever |
| 05:48.30 | Mr_Rabies2 | he wouldn't attack my target so i let him go off into pally land offtanking one |
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| 05:49.16 | Mr_Rabies2 | i said "kill order - skull, cross, Moon, Square, then untargeted" |
| 05:49.32 | Mr_Rabies2 | he goes straight for cross every time |
| 05:49.39 | Mr_Rabies2 | so i just let him offtank it while dpsing with a 2hander |
| 05:49.50 | JunkHead-Work | Yeah I love people who can't do kill order right. |
| 05:49.52 | Mr_Rabies2 | he did good dps, so i don't complain |
| 05:50.03 | JunkHead-Work | They make me giggle. |
| 05:50.04 | Mr_Rabies2 | he made my job a bit too easy though |
| 05:50.13 | JunkHead-Work | But at least he off tanked kinda. |
| 05:50.19 | Mr_Rabies2 | and the healer's for me |
| 05:50.24 | Mr_Rabies2 | they hit me for 200, 300 |
| 05:50.28 | Mr_Rabies2 | and i have 15000 hp |
| 05:50.36 | JunkHead-Work | I have a friend. He is a warrior. |
| 05:50.42 | art3mis | do |
| 05:50.43 | art3mis | you |
| 05:50.45 | art3mis | talk |
| 05:50.47 | art3mis | slower |
| 05:50.48 | art3mis | for |
| 05:50.49 | art3mis | him |
| 05:50.50 | art3mis | ? |
| 05:50.55 | JunkHead-Work | He hit 70 finally about... a month ago or so. |
| 05:51.12 | JunkHead-Work | He respecced Prot as he was some arms/fury build beforehand. |
| 05:51.33 | art3mis | god i wish they'd just get compiz fusion finsihed and stuff and off that damn git repository |
| 05:51.40 | JunkHead-Work | Me, him and a few other friends would do instances together. Nothing major, no heroics or anything... |
| 05:51.52 | JunkHead-Work | Just to have fun and play togetehr and talk on vent. |
| 05:51.57 | Mr_Rabies2 | i love having prot pallies tank for me |
| 05:52.03 | Mr_Rabies2 | i really miss those days, junk |
| 05:52.05 | JunkHead-Work | But he was an awful tank. |
| 05:52.10 | Mr_Rabies2 | but my friends moved to horde on a pvp server |
| 05:52.13 | Mr_Rabies2 | then quit wow |
| 05:52.19 | Mr_Rabies2 | i think i'm the only one left that still plays |
| 05:52.25 | JunkHead-Work | Partly due to him being arms/fury |
| 05:52.32 | JunkHead-Work | But mainly due to him not knowing how to tank. |
| 05:52.33 | Nom- | What was his gear like, Mr_Rabies2 ? |
| 05:52.36 | art3mis | maybe if you told them you loved them more often rabies ;P |
| 05:52.40 | Nom- | It's really hard to find good retribution gear |
| 05:52.45 | Mr_Rabies2 | i dunno |
| 05:52.49 | Mr_Rabies2 | he was doing pretty good damage |
| 05:52.55 | Nom- | One of my guildies finally hit the holy trinity, so happy for him |
| 05:53.00 | Nom- | 10k hitpoints, 2000ap, 30% crit :P |
| 05:53.08 | JunkHead-Work | So after he respecced Protection, We gave it another go. |
| 05:53.10 | Mr_Rabies2 | that's an assload for a pally |
| 05:53.18 | Nom- | Indeed |
| 05:53.19 | Mr_Rabies2 | that's equivalent to about 3500 AP for us |
| 05:53.27 | JunkHead-Work | He had joined a new guild, and was planning on taking over their MT spot once they start moving into Karazhan. |
| 05:53.29 | Nom- | He's in full arena/pvp gear |
| 05:53.40 | Mr_Rabies2 | we end up with about 2500 or so in full arena/pvp |
| 05:53.41 | Nom- | I'm at 8.5k hitpoints, 1600ap, 21% crit on my gear |
| 05:53.42 | JunkHead-Work | But he's still a horrible tank. |
| 05:53.43 | Mr_Rabies2 | :[ |
| 05:53.43 | Nom- | got a bit to go |
| 05:54.16 | JunkHead-Work | One day, on my Paladin, I got bored and decided to start building a tanking set. |
| 05:54.23 | Mr_Rabies2 | i ran an aggro duration meter in violation |
| 05:54.34 | Nom- | JunkHead-Work: Not hard to do any more, thankfully |
| 05:54.40 | JunkHead-Work | I went to the AH and bought a few things, found a few things in the bank... |
| 05:54.49 | JunkHead-Work | Mostly green items... but not bad. |
| 05:54.50 | Nom- | JunkHead-Work: I'm working on the crafted epics from The Eye / SSC at the moment :) |
| 05:54.54 | sag_ich_nicht | [07:53] <Nom-> I'm at 8.5k hitpoints, 1600ap, 21% crit on my gear <--selfbuffed or unbuffed? |
| 05:54.55 | Mr_Rabies2 | and i had like 1hour:35, and the other 4 had like, 2-3 minutes |
| 05:54.56 | JunkHead-Work | Cool. |
| 05:55.00 | Nom- | sag_ich_nicht: Unbuffed |
| 05:55.03 | JunkHead-Work | Then we went back to Netehrstorm. |
| 05:55.09 | JunkHead-Work | Where we were questing. |
| 05:55.19 | JunkHead-Work | Just us as a group of friends. |
| 05:55.30 | JunkHead-Work | I put on ym craptastic tanking gear. |
| 05:55.32 | sag_ich_nicht | >.> |
| 05:55.35 | Mr_Rabies2 | nom, you probably do similar dps to a druid with ~2200 AP or so |
| 05:55.39 | JunkHead-Work | And started tanking for the group. |
| 05:55.43 | Mr_Rabies2 | really depends on what you're fighting though |
| 05:55.58 | JunkHead-Work | The girl who was healing us watched the meters. |
| 05:55.58 | Nom- | Well, I was #3 on DPS for Gruul on one attempt :P |
| 05:56.07 | JunkHead-Work | She said it was quite amusing. |
| 05:56.09 | sag_ich_nicht | ...did you down gruul yet? :P |
| 05:56.10 | sag_ich_nicht | also |
| 05:56.22 | sag_ich_nicht | Mr_Rabies no, because AP says nothing because ret DPS is depending on weapon damage quite a bit :P |
| 05:56.26 | Mr_Rabies2 | how much dps do you tend to output, nom |
| 05:56.28 | Nom- | Well, my new guild (where i don't raid as ret) has Gruul on farm |
| 05:56.36 | JunkHead-Work | I was 8th on DM in Gruul's the other day. |
| 05:56.37 | ScytheBlade1 | Blah... all of the voice API stuff is supposedly in place now |
| 05:56.41 | JunkHead-Work | From start to finish. |
| 05:56.41 | ScytheBlade1 | But it still refuses to work at all |
| 05:56.47 | ScytheBlade1 | (From the options menu) |
| 05:56.48 | JunkHead-Work | On my mage. |
| 05:57.02 | Mr_Rabies2 | i do ~700-750 or so |
| 05:57.28 | Mr_Rabies2 | with 2200-2500 AP |
| 05:57.32 | JunkHead-Work | The week before, I came in 2nd on healing meter with my paladin. |
| 05:57.35 | Nom- | on that fight i think i was up at the 680 mark |
| 05:57.52 | Mr_Rabies2 | yeah, i dunno about what mine would be on gruul |
| 05:57.55 | Mr_Rabies2 | i'm still in kara |
| 05:58.01 | Nom- | On Wednesday, we killed The Lurker Below (SSC), High King & Gruul, Void Reaver (TK) |
| 05:58.05 | Nom- | Was a really good run |
| 05:58.16 | JunkHead-Work | We will probably get VR down this weekend. |
| 05:58.20 | Nom- | Last night we only killed Hydross (only a second kill for us) |
| 05:58.21 | JunkHead-Work | Last weekend we got him to 13% |
| 05:58.27 | Mr_Rabies2 | thing is, nom |
| 05:58.31 | Mr_Rabies2 | on the ptr, in full tier 6 |
| 05:58.44 | Mr_Rabies2 | i only gain about 600 AP or so :( |
| 05:59.15 | Nom- | Well, the tier sets are a bit whacked |
| 05:59.16 | Nom- | Sure it was T6 ? |
| 05:59.18 | Mr_Rabies2 | yep |
| 05:59.21 | Nom- | Like Paladin Protection |
| 05:59.25 | Nom- | T4 is awesome |
| 05:59.25 | Mr_Rabies2 | tier 6 is hands down the best thing we can get |
| 05:59.27 | Nom- | T5 is shite |
| 05:59.30 | Nom- | T6 is average |
| 05:59.32 | Mr_Rabies2 | our tier 4 and 5 are pretty awful |
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| 05:59.44 | JunkHead-Work | The T4 Healing Paladin armor is a bit off. |
| 05:59.47 | Mr_Rabies2 | and there's not much else around that range for dps |
| 05:59.53 | Mr_Rabies2 | it just suddenly jumps up at tier 6 |
| 06:00.16 | Nom- | The actual stats are mostly OK on the T5/T6 |
| 06:00.19 | Nom- | But the set bonuses suck |
| 06:00.35 | Mr_Rabies2 | check out the stuff on here: http://www.gurgleblaster.net/emmerald/Cat_Sustained_DPS/Head.html |
| 06:00.53 | Mr_Rabies2 | look for thunderheart, nordrassil, and malorne, if you're not sure what to look for |
| 06:01.13 | Mr_Rabies2 | that table isn't perfect but it's pretty close |
| 06:01.45 | JunkHead-Work | The Paladin T4 healing set should have mp5 instead of crit. |
| 06:01.50 | JunkHead-Work | That bugs the hell out of me. |
| 06:02.08 | JunkHead-Work | I'm actually working on replacing parts of my T4 set. |
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| 06:02.25 | Nom- | hmmm yes and no |
| 06:02.33 | Nom- | spell crit is really useful for long term healing |
| 06:02.36 | Mr_Rabies2 | doesn't crit help that uhh talent |
| 06:02.37 | Mr_Rabies2 | thingy |
| 06:02.39 | Nom- | Not as useful as it used to be, but still helps |
| 06:02.42 | Mr_Rabies2 | illumination |
| 06:02.48 | Mr_Rabies2 | divine illumination? |
| 06:02.52 | Nom- | *nod* |
| 06:03.00 | JunkHead-Work | Yeah but for instance, compare the t4 healing gloves to the gloves that off moroes. |
| 06:03.00 | Nom- | MP5 only gets you so far |
| 06:03.06 | Nom- | Eventually you ahve to start stacking spell crit |
| 06:03.16 | JunkHead-Work | I see much more benefit from mp5 than crit. |
| 06:03.19 | JunkHead-Work | But that's just me. |
| 06:03.27 | Nom- | JunkHead-Work: The 2-piece T4 bonus offsets that though |
| 06:03.41 | Nom- | I stopped using the moroes gloves about 2 weeks after I got them |
| 06:03.42 | Mr_Rabies2 | the moonkin and resto tiers are pretty good for their spec |
| 06:03.53 | Mr_Rabies2 | but the feral ones waste a lot of item points on stuff we don't use |
| 06:04.07 | Mr_Rabies2 | tier 6 wastes the least, though |
| 06:04.26 | Mr_Rabies2 | it has some int and stuff, but overall it's better than anything else in terms of stat allocation |
| 06:04.59 | Nom- | You're expecting to be in feral when you hit BT ? :P |
| 06:05.01 | JunkHead-Work | oops. |
| 06:05.04 | JunkHead-Work | earleir I said moroes. |
| 06:05.06 | nevcairiel | didnt anyone claim that AFK Report feature was in 2.2 already? its now in the patch notes .. :) |
| 06:05.07 | JunkHead-Work | I meant Attumen. |
| 06:05.09 | JunkHead-Work | Sorry. |
| 06:05.14 | Mr_Rabies2 | nom, why wouldn't we be? D: |
| 06:05.25 | Nom- | No reason :) |
| 06:05.27 | ScytheBlade1 | nevcairiel, it's in the UI currently... just disabled. |
| 06:05.43 | ScytheBlade1 | nevcairiel, you report someone AFK, and it says "Player report" followed by "Notify system is disabled." |
| 06:05.45 | Mr_Rabies2 | you mean, our dps isn't as great as sag_ich_nicht mentioned? D: |
| 06:05.59 | MentalPower | AFK report? |
| 06:06.01 | nevcairiel | just downloaded latest PTR patch, and its listed there, guess the system will be active on Live only then |
| 06:06.05 | Nom- | Although, I suspect when they fix the prot itemization for pallies, it might be difficult to justify a bear over a pally tank |
| 06:06.20 | Mr_Rabies2 | right click, report AFK for BGs, MentalPower |
| 06:06.24 | Nom- | nah i was just thinking tanking wise, you'll still do dps one way or another i guess |
| 06:06.46 | JunkHead-Work | The more tanks the better. |
| 06:07.25 | Mr_Rabies2 | we suffer from the tank problem more than warriors do |
| 06:07.31 | art3mis | But he does break down the total number allegedly violated - 235 - into categories. He says that the Linux kernel - the deepest layer of the free operating system, which interacts most directly with the computer hardware - violates 42 Microsoft patents. The Linux graphical user interfaces - essentially, the way design elements like menus and toolbars are set up - run afoul of another 65, he claims. The Open Office suite of programs, w |
| 06:07.48 | Mr_Rabies2 | as our mitigation increases our rage goes way down, and we don't have high end weapons to help us out in the threat department |
| 06:09.08 | JunkHead-Work | Mr_Rabies2 - Everytime I get a group up for an instance, it seems that 50% of the time we get a bear, 20% of the time it's a pally, 30% of the time it's a warrior. |
| 06:09.37 | Mr_Rabies2 | i've only had a pally tank once |
| 06:09.38 | sag_ich_nicht | art3mis i claim he is a sack full of shit. |
| 06:09.43 | Mr_Rabies2 | all ours are holy |
| 06:09.46 | JunkHead-Work | We found this one guy... |
| 06:09.49 | JunkHead-Work | He was great. |
| 06:09.55 | art3mis | (Stallman insists that "GNU/Linux" is the proper name, and he refuses to give interviews to reporters unless they promise to call it that in every reference. In part for that reason, he was not interviewed for this article.) |
| 06:09.59 | art3mis | this article is awesome |
| 06:10.00 | JunkHead-Work | He would run into entire rooms and grab mobs. |
| 06:10.07 | JunkHead-Work | And could handle it. |
| 06:10.10 | Mr_Rabies2 | not because i don't WANT them to |
| 06:10.14 | art3mis | http://money.cnn.com/magazines/fortune/fortune_archive/2007/05/28/100033867/ |
| 06:10.18 | Mr_Rabies2 | but because none of them WANT to tank or dps |
| 06:10.27 | Mr_Rabies2 | they're so used to being beaten down into healing |
| 06:10.34 | Mr_Rabies2 | that they've accepted their fate |
| 06:10.39 | JunkHead-Work | One of my friends I was talking about earlier (the priest) is in a guild. |
| 06:10.52 | JunkHead-Work | And her GL only let's holy pallies go to raids. |
| 06:11.05 | JunkHead-Work | I told her that apparantly he has never seen a good prot pally in action. |
| 06:11.08 | Mr_Rabies2 | i'd bring that up with the guild leader |
| 06:11.28 | Nom- | Yeah, I did that last night... ran arcatraz |
| 06:11.33 | Mr_Rabies2 | i don't approve of spec restrictions if they're good at it |
| 06:11.40 | Nom- | We didn't even use CC until the etherials :P |
| 06:11.41 | JunkHead-Work | Right. |
| 06:11.47 | Nom- | That was an awesome run :P |
| 06:11.48 | JunkHead-Work | Plus, They're doing Kara. |
| 06:11.54 | JunkHead-Work | Kara = full of undead. |
| 06:11.56 | Mr_Rabies2 | whaaat |
| 06:11.58 | JunkHead-Work | Prot Pally... |
| 06:12.00 | JunkHead-Work | heloooo |
| 06:12.05 | Mr_Rabies2 | we don't take a prot pally tank, but again |
| 06:12.09 | Mr_Rabies2 | it's because none of them are prot |
| 06:12.14 | Mr_Rabies2 | they're all holy :/ |
| 06:12.28 | Mr_Rabies2 | i'd say a good 90% of my server's paladins are holy |
| 06:12.29 | JunkHead-Work | Still though, the dancer pulls in and around moroes... |
| 06:12.33 | JunkHead-Work | I tank those pulls |
| 06:12.37 | Nom- | That's because prot pally itemization outside of Karazhan and beyond is rather harsh |
| 06:12.42 | JunkHead-Work | So it's not like a prot pally would be useless. |
| 06:12.52 | Nom- | You need to sacrifice all spell damage (and gimp your aggro a bit) just to stack stamina high enough |
| 06:13.04 | Mr_Rabies2 | it's the same for any other tanks, nom |
| 06:13.11 | Nom- | Not warriors |
| 06:13.14 | JunkHead-Work | Well, like I said, I just started my tanking set, and reading into it. |
| 06:13.28 | JunkHead-Work | But the prot pallies I've seen in action, I've armory'ed them. |
| 06:13.35 | Nom- | Warriors can easily stack strength, stamina and defense stats, because all the easily obtained gear is for them |
| 06:13.36 | Mr_Rabies2 | warriors sacrifice the least out of the 3 when it comes to aggro->mitigation |
| 06:13.37 | JunkHead-Work | Seems 200-250 spell damage is their norm. |
| 06:13.50 | Nom- | *nod*... i've only got about 150 |
| 06:13.53 | JunkHead-Work | If even that high |
| 06:13.54 | JunkHead-Work | Right. |
| 06:14.00 | Nom- | I need a new sword and the T4 helm |
| 06:14.03 | JunkHead-Work | And 150-200 isn't hard to reach at all. |
| 06:14.03 | Mr_Rabies2 | paladins and druids both sacrifice almost all their dps (and thus threat) to gain mitigation |
| 06:14.16 | JunkHead-Work | I have about 150 just on my tanking sword. |
| 06:14.18 | Mr_Rabies2 | mine will drop from the 200-300 i do now as i get better gear, probably |
| 06:14.27 | Mr_Rabies2 | DPS, that is |
| 06:14.59 | sag_ich_nicht | uh, prot paladins do quite a bit of dps, actually. they just gimp their aggro by having less spelldmg. >.> |
| 06:15.23 | Mr_Rabies2 | i rememeber when my mangles crit for 2000 |
| 06:15.24 | Mr_Rabies2 | :( |
| 06:15.31 | Mr_Rabies2 | now i'm lucky to see 1000 in tanking gear |
| 06:15.37 | art3mis | If push comes to shove, would Microsoft sue its customers for royalties, the way the record industry has? |
| 06:15.37 | art3mis | "That's not a bridge we've crossed," says CEO Ballmer, "and not a bridge I want to cross today on the phone with you." |
| 06:15.46 | sag_ich_nicht | you don't dps in tanking gear, Mr_Rabies |
| 06:15.48 | Nom- | Yeah, but remember in bear form you have more aggro generated |
| 06:15.50 | sag_ich_nicht | :P |
| 06:15.57 | sag_ich_nicht | exactly |
| 06:16.00 | sag_ich_nicht | and now i go to bed |
| 06:16.03 | sag_ich_nicht | good night. |
| 06:16.20 | JunkHead-Work | http://armory.worldofwarcraft.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Stormrage&n=Munificent |
| 06:16.29 | JunkHead-Work | This is the Pally I was talking about that was crazy. |
| 06:16.31 | Nom- | Paladins are really gimped without spell damage if they don't have aggro |
| 06:16.43 | Mr_Rabies2 | nope, but my threat gets hurt more and more as my dps does, but they said they're working on ways to fix that |
| 06:16.47 | Nom- | All the core aggro talents are reactive on incoming damage |
| 06:17.09 | Mr_Rabies2 | druids have to be getting hit to do any aggro too, nom |
| 06:17.21 | Nom- | that's actually about what i have, JunkHead-Work |
| 06:17.23 | Mr_Rabies2 | we don't hit hard enough to get much from output damage |
| 06:17.33 | Mr_Rabies2 | so we have to GET hit |
| 06:17.37 | Mr_Rabies2 | to get rage |
| 06:17.45 | AnduinLothar | we just got our 3rd [Spyglass of the Hidden Fleet] this run |
| 06:17.46 | JunkHead-Work | Nom- - I'm using his stats as a guide of what to shoot for. |
| 06:17.54 | JunkHead-Work | Although I won't be as good, since I'm not Prot. |
| 06:17.57 | Nom- | http://armory.worldofwarcraft.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Stormscale&n=Innominata |
| 06:18.03 | JunkHead-Work | But I don't plan on tanking whole lot. |
| 06:18.08 | Mr_Rabies2 | the problem is as we get better gear we get hit for less and less and thus have less and less rage and less and less threat |
| 06:18.12 | JunkHead-Work | Just enough for group quests and such. |
| 06:18.49 | Thunder_Child | Mr_Rabies2, our pally has the same issue, but not for rage, for mana |
| 06:19.11 | Mr_Rabies2 | it just seems like a tank issue in general |
| 06:19.14 | Thunder_Child | always bitching about not getting hurt, so he is receiveing no man |
| 06:19.15 | Thunder_Child | a |
| 06:19.21 | Mr_Rabies2 | yeah |
| 06:19.33 | Mr_Rabies2 | people that pull for me or start dpsing before i even finish pulling screw me over |
| 06:19.37 | Mr_Rabies2 | because i'm not getting hit to get rage |
| 06:19.42 | Mr_Rabies2 | so i can't get aggro off them |
| 06:19.45 | Nom- | Paladins only have enough problem if they don't take enough damage |
| 06:19.52 | Nom- | Heroics and Raids = infinite mana |
| 06:20.00 | Nom- | Outside of that, you can struggle |
| 06:20.12 | Thunder_Child | our pally doesnt take enough dmg in heroics even |
| 06:20.12 | Mr_Rabies2 | yeah, rage is pretty plentiful in raids |
| 06:20.17 | Mr_Rabies2 | heroics,not so much anymore for me |
| 06:20.50 | Nom- | Depends on the heroic |
| 06:21.00 | Nom- | Did mechanar last night, the mechanical mobs hit hard enough |
| 06:21.04 | Nom- | And the humanoids I just aoe tanked |
| 06:21.05 | Nom- | :) |
| 06:21.20 | Mr_Rabies2 | i'm getting tired of only getting hit for 300-800 :( |
| 06:21.27 | Mr_Rabies2 | and i'm not anywhere near the armor cap yet |
| 06:21.42 | Nom- | lern2raidtank :) |
| 06:21.50 | Mr_Rabies2 | i imagine tanking 5 mans in tanking gear is impossible once you hit the armor cap |
| 06:21.55 | Nom- | Gruul will whack you around for a good 12+k in one hit :P |
| 06:21.58 | JunkHead-Work | Go Do Gruul, Be the bear who absorbs the bitchslaps.:P |
| 06:22.03 | Mr_Rabies2 | i would |
| 06:22.08 | Mr_Rabies2 | but my guild is a bunch of newbs |
| 06:22.10 | Mr_Rabies2 | :[ |
| 06:22.16 | Nom- | find a new guild :) |
| 06:22.20 | Mr_Rabies2 | my kara group is good though |
| 06:22.31 | JunkHead-Work | Transfer, come tank for my guild. |
| 06:22.33 | Mr_Rabies2 | it's hard to find guilds that want ferals |
| 06:22.39 | Mr_Rabies2 | pve, alliance? |
| 06:22.43 | JunkHead-Work | Hell, come dps, we dont care. |
| 06:22.45 | JunkHead-Work | Yes. |
| 06:22.48 | Nom- | I switched from a guild who is struggling to fill a 25-man raid each week, to one who is only just ahead of them |
| 06:22.50 | JunkHead-Work | PvE, Alliance. |
| 06:22.55 | Nom- | And I couldn't be happier |
| 06:22.56 | Mr_Rabies2 | what server? |
| 06:22.56 | AnduinLothar | we have 5 ferals and a resto in this raid |
| 06:23.00 | JunkHead-Work | Stormrage. |
| 06:23.00 | Nom- | Stormscale |
| 06:23.03 | Nom- | For me |
| 06:23.22 | JunkHead-Work | We have 35 or so lvl 70's on at 9am server time.:P |
| 06:23.25 | Nom- | I think we're recruiting a bear actually, horde though |
| 06:23.37 | Mr_Rabies2 | i may do that junk, i may make a char over there and check things out |
| 06:23.49 | JunkHead-Work | Nah create an alt. |
| 06:23.49 | Nom- | Our bear is moving to Canada today |
| 06:23.58 | JunkHead-Work | And just start talking to people. |
| 06:24.05 | Mr_Rabies2 | that's what i meant |
| 06:24.11 | Mr_Rabies2 | by "make a char over there" |
| 06:24.18 | Mr_Rabies2 | make a character for scouting the server out |
| 06:24.23 | JunkHead-Work | http://armory.worldofwarcraft.com/guild-info.xml?r=Stormrage&n=Ante+Meridiem&p=1 |
| 06:24.25 | JunkHead-Work | My guild. |
| 06:24.32 | Mr_Rabies2 | if i like it over there i may swap over sometime |
| 06:24.35 | JunkHead-Work | I can actually tell you what we are looking for also. |
| 06:24.47 | Mr_Rabies2 | i've got a lot of friends over here though :( |
| 06:25.08 | Nom- | I'm very much looking forward to BT later this year, I think we might just get there :) |
| 06:25.37 | Nom- | 2 bosses down in SSC so far, 1 in TK |
| 06:25.44 | Nom- | We're getting 1 new boss every week so far |
| 06:25.52 | Mr_Rabies2 | get a tell while i'm in shatt: |
| 06:26.00 | AnduinLothar | that's fast. we've been havign issues in ssc |
| 06:26.05 | Mr_Rabies2 | "lf1mhealer 4 mech u wanna go?" |
| 06:26.06 | Mr_Rabies2 | argh |
| 06:26.11 | JunkHead-Work | Ok we are looking for... |
| 06:26.24 | JunkHead-Work | Not looking for a druid for Am teams... |
| 06:26.26 | Nom- | AnduinLothar: Hint... skip hydross until you have the resist gear :) |
| 06:26.32 | AnduinLothar | we have been |
| 06:26.33 | Mr_Rabies2 | btw, thanks AnduinLothar |
| 06:26.34 | JunkHead-Work | Need 1 OT for PM teams. |
| 06:26.40 | Mr_Rabies2 | for telling me it was tooltips mod |
| 06:26.42 | Nom- | AnduinLothar: What you working on? |
| 06:26.43 | Mr_Rabies2 | i forgot i still had it enabled |
| 06:26.45 | JunkHead-Work | feral Druid or DPS warrior. |
| 06:26.55 | Mr_Rabies2 | what's PM? |
| 06:27.03 | AnduinLothar | morogrim atm |
| 06:27.06 | Mr_Rabies2 | 7-12 or so? |
| 06:27.07 | JunkHead-Work | Evening. |
| 06:27.10 | JunkHead-Work | Umm.. |
| 06:27.10 | Nom- | AnduinLothar: Killed Lurker ? |
| 06:27.13 | AnduinLothar | ya |
| 06:27.17 | JunkHead-Work | 6:30 - whenever |
| 06:27.22 | Mr_Rabies2 | EST? CST? |
| 06:27.25 | Nom- | AnduinLothar: Nice, we're going for tidewalker this week |
| 06:27.26 | Mr_Rabies2 | PST? D: |
| 06:27.32 | JunkHead-Work | Stormrage server time is Eastern. |
| 06:27.33 | Nom- | Right after we kill Magtheridon... |
| 06:27.36 | Mr_Rabies2 | okay, nice |
| 06:27.38 | JunkHead-Work | which is.. -5 |
| 06:27.43 | Mr_Rabies2 | i'm eastern too |
| 06:27.51 | JunkHead-Work | Am teams are about 9am-1:30pm |
| 06:27.53 | Nom- | In fact, if we do well on Mag, it could be two new bosses this week |
| 06:27.54 | Mr_Rabies2 | this may just work out |
| 06:27.55 | Nom- | (We bypassed Mag) |
| 06:27.59 | JunkHead-Work | I'm on AM team. |
| 06:28.02 | Mr_Rabies2 | i can't do 9am-1:30 |
| 06:28.06 | JunkHead-Work | Yeah. |
| 06:28.23 | Mr_Rabies2 | even if there was room |
| 06:28.23 | JunkHead-Work | Recently, another guild on our server had some drama. |
| 06:28.23 | AnduinLothar | mag's on farm |
| 06:28.24 | Mr_Rabies2 | i can't get up that early :P |
| 06:28.33 | AnduinLothar | lootreaver too |
| 06:28.34 | JunkHead-Work | And they're entire kara raid team left basically. |
| 06:28.41 | JunkHead-Work | And came to us. |
| 06:28.48 | JunkHead-Work | We got like.. 8-9 people at once. |
| 06:29.01 | JunkHead-Work | They are one of our PM groups now. |
| 06:29.21 | AnduinLothar | we killed lurker once and then couldn't kill him again for 2 weeks due to wipes and trash respawn or just not enough to group from con's |
| 06:29.23 | JunkHead-Work | We have 2-3 morning Kara groups, and 2 evening groups I think. |
| 06:29.26 | Mr_Rabies2 | haha! excelsior! no more Edit Label dialog box |
| 06:29.31 | Mr_Rabies2 | damn you stan lee |
| 06:29.38 | Mr_Rabies2 | for using excelsior so much :[ |
| 06:29.43 | JunkHead-Work | I don't know how evening does 25 man raids though. |
| 06:29.52 | JunkHead-Work | I know they've gone to gruul's lair once. |
| 06:29.57 | JunkHead-Work | Downed High King. |
| 06:30.06 | JunkHead-Work | Got Gruul to under half. |
| 06:30.13 | AnduinLothar | we for 8-12 |
| 06:30.13 | JunkHead-Work | That's the last i heard though. |
| 06:30.13 | Mr_Rabies2 | isn't maulgar harder? |
| 06:30.15 | AnduinLothar | do* |
| 06:30.19 | JunkHead-Work | brb phone |
| 06:30.25 | Nom- | Maulgar is easy once you know the pull |
| 06:30.40 | AnduinLothar | yeah, just need a decent mage tank |
| 06:30.48 | Nom- | We downed that encounter in like under 5 minutes this week |
| 06:31.14 | JunkHead-Work | 4m 42s :) |
| 06:31.16 | Mr_Rabies2 | i can soak up damage like you wouldn't believe in raids though |
| 06:31.17 | JunkHead-Work | HK kill. |
| 06:31.26 | Nom- | We were around that, yea |
| 06:31.28 | Mr_Rabies2 | i'm floating at 18k, i need more :( |
| 06:31.56 | Mr_Rabies2 | i can't seem to get much more yet |
| 06:31.57 | JunkHead-Work | One shotted both HK and gruul. |
| 06:32.00 | JunkHead-Work | It was quick. |
| 06:32.05 | AnduinLothar | our mt only has 17.5k |
| 06:32.25 | Mr_Rabies2 | AL, is he a warrior? |
| 06:32.28 | AnduinLothar | yes |
| 06:32.29 | Mr_Rabies2 | that's not bad for a warrior |
| 06:32.39 | Mr_Rabies2 | our tank in kara has about 17k or so |
| 06:32.55 | AnduinLothar | our droods are in kitty so i cant tell |
| 06:33.06 | Mr_Rabies2 | i'd prefer to be in most cases |
| 06:33.24 | Nom- | Druids have to stack the armor and stamina |
| 06:33.28 | Mr_Rabies2 | tanking loses its novelty after a while |
| 06:33.30 | Nom- | They don't have the mitigation that others have |
| 06:33.41 | Mr_Rabies2 | yeah, no block or parry |
| 06:33.45 | Mr_Rabies2 | dodge too |
| 06:33.54 | Mr_Rabies2 | dodge is really important once you start nearing the armor cap |
| 06:34.05 | Nom- | I wish there was more +block value gear :( |
| 06:34.05 | JunkHead-Work | Nom- - on HK, how do you guys start the pull? Pally bubble pull? |
| 06:34.14 | nevcairiel | we had a feral tank najenthus in BT yesterday because our def tanks were all offline |
| 06:34.17 | nevcairiel | wasnt a issue |
| 06:34.19 | Nom- | JunkHead-Work: Depends... we've done it a few ways |
| 06:34.32 | Nom- | JunkHead-Work: We did bubble pull this week, but we've done mage ice lance + misdirect too |
| 06:34.42 | JunkHead-Work | Cool. |
| 06:34.49 | Mr_Rabies2 | i tried to pickpocket najentus on a private server once |
| 06:34.51 | Mr_Rabies2 | never again |
| 06:35.06 | Nom- | lol @ private servers |
| 06:35.09 | JunkHead-Work | <-- Da Bubbler.:( |
| 06:35.29 | Nom- | My brother and I were on a TS channel a week or so ago, I'm trying to get him into WoW |
| 06:35.39 | Nom- | Some nubs join and start talking about soloing illidan in 5 minutes |
| 06:35.51 | JunkHead-Work | 3m 39s |
| 06:35.53 | Nom- | I was just thinking what a waste of time it is to play a game like that |
| 06:35.56 | JunkHead-Work | Tell them they suck. |
| 06:36.15 | Nom- | Seriously... if you're going to kill Illidan, you should at least do it the right way |
| 06:36.15 | Mr_Rabies2 | this one i played on for a couple of days was awesome, but the average player was even worse than on real servers |
| 06:36.22 | Nom- | Otherwise what's the point ? |
| 06:36.33 | Mr_Rabies2 | well this one has dedicated scripters and stuff |
| 06:36.41 | Mr_Rabies2 | the server's awesome, but the playerbase sucks ass |
| 06:36.56 | Mr_Rabies2 | 90% eastern europeans mangling english at every corner |
| 06:37.08 | JunkHead-Work | I mangle english. |
| 06:37.18 | Mr_Rabies2 | people actually 25man illidan and stuff on there |
| 06:37.18 | JunkHead-Work | I mangle it very good. |
| 06:37.24 | JunkHead-Work | I'm the bestest. |
| 06:37.35 | Mr_Rabies2 | it's probabyl the closest i'll ever get to illidan |
| 06:37.58 | *** join/#wowi-lounge [Liquidor] (n=denras19@130.225.247.36) |
| 06:38.11 | Mr_Rabies2 | i've only resorted to it because i've got nothing else to do on real servers but kara |
| 06:38.15 | JunkHead-Work | I met Illidan once. |
| 06:38.15 | Mr_Rabies2 | and we raid 3 days a week |
| 06:38.18 | JunkHead-Work | not a abd guy. |
| 06:38.22 | JunkHead-Work | But really annoying. |
| 06:38.28 | Mr_Rabies2 | how many days a week does your PM crew raid, JunkHead-Work? |
| 06:38.30 | JunkHead-Work | I don't trust him. |
| 06:38.34 | JunkHead-Work | Umm... |
| 06:38.41 | JunkHead-Work | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=712410373&sid=1 |
| 06:38.42 | MentalPower | "YOU ARE NOT PREPARED!!!" |
| 06:38.43 | JunkHead-Work | Here.:P |
| 06:39.17 | Nom- | Mr_Rabies2: pvp |
| 06:39.21 | Nom- | Get your pvp sets |
| 06:39.30 | Nom- | If you don't enjoy PvP on your drood, roll another class |
| 06:39.31 | Nom- | :) |
| 06:39.37 | Mr_Rabies2 | i've given up on pvp on mine for now |
| 06:39.44 | Mr_Rabies2 | until blizzard looks at us like they say they are |
| 06:40.01 | Mr_Rabies2 | it's an excersize in frustration that i won't get into now |
| 06:40.11 | JunkHead-Work | One day, i was bored, and I was filling out a myspace survey bulletin thing. |
| 06:40.21 | Mr_Rabies2 | and i'm never going to azeroth again |
| 06:40.23 | JunkHead-Work | And a question asked "What is your favorite pet?" |
| 06:40.27 | Mr_Rabies2 | my next reroll will be a death knight |
| 06:40.33 | JunkHead-Work | I put the name of one of our Feral Druids.:P |
| 06:40.39 | Mr_Rabies2 | lol |
| 06:40.52 | JunkHead-Work | Only like.. 2-3 people will ever see, and less will understand it, but I told the druid, and he laughed. |
| 06:42.43 | Nom- | I've got a 70 Mage, 70 Paladin and working on a Warlock |
| 06:42.47 | Nom- | Something for everyone :) |
| 06:42.52 | art3mis | rabies come play with me on my newbie draenie shamman on kel'thuzad ;) (us) of course |
| 06:43.09 | Nom- | Always something to do, so if I ever get bored of Paladin, I can go fireball some stuff |
| 06:43.11 | Mr_Rabies2 | roll a druid |
| 06:43.21 | Nom- | I've got a 29 druid |
| 06:43.23 | art3mis | ive got a priest |
| 06:43.30 | Mr_Rabies2 | i tell everyone who thinks everything's peachy with the state of the class to roll one |
| 06:43.30 | Nom- | I've got a 33 priest :P |
| 06:43.44 | art3mis | i lurv my shadow priest |
| 06:43.47 | Mr_Rabies2 | they'll learn themselves, the hard way, that not everything's as great as it seems on the outside |
| 06:43.49 | Nom- | 35 hunter |
| 06:43.50 | art3mis | it makes me happy in my pants |
| 06:43.54 | Nom- | 27 warlock |
| 06:44.07 | art3mis | oh gimme a break, im sooooo sick of druids whining about thier class |
| 06:44.35 | Nom- | Mr_Rabies2: Roll a Retribution Paladin, then you'll realise why we get so offended when druids, of all classes complain their DPS is gimp |
| 06:44.47 | art3mis | hehe ret pallys are funny |
| 06:44.54 | art3mis | i have one of those for shits and giggles |
| 06:45.03 | Nom- | Level ? |
| 06:45.05 | art3mis | he was fun for 1-26 |
| 06:45.13 | art3mis | once i hit the 30s i hated life ;P |
| 06:45.15 | Nom- | Yeah, that's the wierd thing about Paladin levelling |
| 06:45.16 | JunkHead-Work | be back later, got calls going. |
| 06:45.20 | Nom- | 1-30 is easy as ret |
| 06:45.23 | art3mis | yup |
| 06:45.23 | Nom- | 30-70 is easy as prot |
| 06:45.36 | art3mis | i think im like 40 or something |
| 06:45.39 | Nom- | Holy is hard at any level, unless you twink the spell damage through the roof |
| 06:45.41 | art3mis | i hoenstly dont remember ;) |
| 06:45.52 | art3mis | prot is insane |
| 06:45.59 | Nom- | reckoning ftws |
| 06:46.02 | art3mis | yeah |
| 06:46.11 | art3mis | sol on mob aow on me |
| 06:46.28 | art3mis | oh wait no im in the 50s now |
| 06:46.32 | art3mis | playing in epl |
| 06:46.36 | art3mis | err wpl |
| 06:46.41 | Nom- | aow ? you just lost me, never seen that abbreviation before |
| 06:46.50 | Nom- | sow you mean ? |
| 06:46.58 | art3mis | i guess its seal of wisdon |
| 06:47.00 | art3mis | wisdom |
| 06:47.12 | Nom- | I wouldn't use SoW on a prot pally |
| 06:47.13 | art3mis | but since i dont jkudge it i always just refer to it as an aura |
| 06:47.19 | Nom- | SoB once you get it |
| 06:47.22 | Nom- | Otherwise SoR |
| 06:47.34 | art3mis | one gives me hp one gives me mana |
| 06:47.45 | Nom- | Yeah, but you gimp your damage output going that way |
| 06:48.02 | Nom- | Actaully, if you spec into improved SoR, use that all the time |
| 06:48.07 | Nom- | Procs your judgements |
| 06:48.09 | art3mis | when yer fighting 5 mobs at a time lasting a while is a bit better than burswt damage ;P |
| 06:48.34 | Nom- | heh... whatever works i guess |
| 06:48.36 | art3mis | very little of what i do on my pally is serious |
| 06:48.39 | art3mis | heh |
| 06:49.03 | art3mis | i was running around sc solo at 45 to see how id do ;P |
| 06:49.06 | art3mis | err sm |
| 06:49.06 | Nom- | It's just rather juts when you get reckoning happening... you can get up to 8 procs in 8 seconds of whatever judgement is up (as long as your weapon is quick enough) |
| 06:49.19 | Nom- | s/juts/nuts/ |
| 06:49.31 | art3mis | yeah the downside to my spec right now is that i havent bothered to get him twinkie gear |
| 06:49.40 | Nom- | You don't need it :) |
| 06:49.47 | Nom- | Not for PVE anywho |
| 06:50.14 | art3mis | by twinkie i mean instance gear or something around my level ;P |
| 06:50.25 | Nom- | hah |
| 06:50.27 | art3mis | i still sue that paladin reward polearm from time to time |
| 06:50.29 | Nom- | don't need it still |
| 06:50.32 | Nom- | not for soling |
| 06:50.43 | Nom- | lol... i seriously used that until like level 54 |
| 06:50.47 | art3mis | heh |
| 06:50.48 | Nom- | when i finally got a new weapon |
| 06:50.49 | art3mis | its awesome |
| 06:51.01 | Nom- | I went looking on the AH from about level 40 onwards |
| 06:51.06 | AnduinLothar | i win =D http://www.wowhead.com/?item=28430 |
| 06:51.12 | Nom- | And without spending 200g, there was literally NOTHING that beats it until level 54 |
| 06:51.35 | Nom- | AnduinLothar: Paladin ? |
| 06:51.48 | art3mis | thats pretty nice |
| 06:51.51 | Nom- | AnduinLothar: What the heck did you get that on a Paladin for? |
| 06:51.59 | art3mis | cuz thats awesome! |
| 06:52.06 | art3mis | heh vanity items rule |
| 06:52.33 | Nom- | http://www.wowhead.com/?item=28442 <-- now THAT Is a paladin weapon |
| 06:52.55 | art3mis | but it doesnt have edges |
| 06:52.57 | art3mis | ;) |
| 06:54.10 | AnduinLothar | yeah yeah, everyone has that |
| 06:54.18 | AnduinLothar | swords are awesomer |
| 06:54.28 | AnduinLothar | when i went sedsmith i wasn't ret |
| 06:54.52 | AnduinLothar | and i already had my 1h when i went ret |
| 06:55.07 | AnduinLothar | the 1h is pretty good for holy dps |
| 06:55.39 | JunkHead-Work | http://www.wowhead.com/?item=32472 |
| 06:55.41 | art3mis | i need a new os to play with |
| 06:55.49 | JunkHead-Work | I have thes eon my Paladin.:D |
| 06:55.51 | art3mis | im kind of bored of the whole linux thing |
| 06:55.56 | AnduinLothar | besides, this way i can get the holy tallent and have 18% fear resist for uber areas |
| 06:56.22 | art3mis | yer an engineer? |
| 06:56.28 | AnduinLothar | im not, he is |
| 06:56.41 | AnduinLothar | engineering+bs is overpowered |
| 06:56.43 | art3mis | JunkHead-Work: funny thing to do |
| 06:56.49 | AnduinLothar | but you'd have to buy all the mats |
| 06:56.54 | art3mis | go to the bouncey trampoline thing on yer mount |
| 06:57.01 | art3mis | jump up as high and keep flying up |
| 06:57.15 | art3mis | make a amcro to /dismount and use yer 300% speed boost jetpack |
| 06:57.28 | art3mis | and you'll fly across the entire zone stoopidly fast |
| 06:57.56 | JunkHead-Work | I don't have anything that makes me jump or fly. |
| 06:58.05 | art3mis | its not jump or flying |
| 06:58.16 | art3mis | its the jetpack thingy that makes you run 300% |
| 06:58.22 | JunkHead-Work | Don't have it. |
| 06:58.29 | art3mis | go farm it |
| 06:58.29 | Nom- | stacked with the 300% from the mount? :P |
| 06:58.39 | art3mis | with the macro it does ;P |
| 06:58.42 | JunkHead-Work | I'm not farming for something like that. |
| 06:58.43 | art3mis | plus falling speed |
| 06:58.59 | Nom- | lol that'd be rather funny |
| 06:59.02 | art3mis | hilarious is an understatment for the fun it is |
| 06:59.12 | AnduinLothar | 600% speed? |
| 06:59.20 | AnduinLothar | +pally aura lolz |
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| 06:59.26 | art3mis | hahah |
| 07:01.13 | AnduinLothar | swinging a giant can openner sharkz is soo much cooler than that lame mace graphic |
| 07:01.31 | AnduinLothar | but yeah, it's stun is OP |
| 07:01.41 | Nom- | That's why it's a great paladin weapon |
| 07:01.48 | AnduinLothar | and it's 3.8 speed |
| 07:01.55 | Nom- | The stun is not subject to any diminishing returns |
| 07:01.56 | AnduinLothar | compared to my 3.6 |
| 07:02.03 | AnduinLothar | but w/e |
| 07:02.06 | Nom- | So when it procs, they will be stunned always |
| 07:02.19 | AnduinLothar | too late now. I made the decision way back |
| 07:02.28 | Nom- | heh |
| 07:02.39 | Nom- | I will soon have to choose between armorsmith or hammersmith :( |
| 07:03.01 | AnduinLothar | i was swdsmith before tbc so i just didn't bother to change |
| 07:03.09 | Nom- | Toss up between Breatplate of Kings or Stormherals |
| 07:03.16 | Nom- | s/s$/d/ |
| 07:03.37 | AnduinLothar | i'm like one of 2 people on the server with the nef swd plans, not that anyone's ever wanted it crafted |
| 07:06.11 | Nom- | I got the pally tank boots the other night in Botanica |
| 07:06.14 | Nom- | Going to make them |
| 07:07.02 | Nom- | http://www.wowhead.com/?item=30033 i think it was |
| 07:07.03 | AnduinLothar | korium? |
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| 07:07.42 | Nom- | yep that one |
| 07:07.56 | Nom- | (the one i linked) the belt is bop pattern, so didn't get that one for sure |
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| 07:08.38 | Nom- | Best in slot pally tanking boots at the T5 level |
| 07:08.58 | Nom- | They literally don't get better than that until Hyjal/BT as far as i know |
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| 07:12.15 | AnduinLothar | there's bs craftable ones from ssc |
| 07:12.26 | Nom- | That is them.... |
| 07:12.33 | AnduinLothar | that's not botanica.. |
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| 07:12.40 | Nom- | They have a chance to drop in Bot |
| 07:12.45 | AnduinLothar | wtf? |
| 07:12.48 | AnduinLothar | the epics? |
| 07:12.56 | AnduinLothar | i wish i'd got them in bot.... |
| 07:14.02 | Nom- | Well, they must have... since that's where they dropped :) |
| 07:14.53 | Nom- | I'd say it's a very rare drop though |
| 07:15.01 | Nom- | We were literally 'wtfing' in TS when they dropped |
| 07:15.30 | Arrowmaster | what did they drop off of? |
| 07:15.36 | Arrowmaster | because they shouldnt drop in bot |
| 07:15.45 | AnduinLothar | yeah, those are better than kz gear |
| 07:15.57 | AnduinLothar | better than all the bop world drops too |
| 07:16.22 | Arrowmaster | arent they ilvl 128 |
| 07:16.55 | Nom- | Well, what can I say... they were purple, they were pally tank gear, and they dropped in Botanica |
| 07:17.03 | Nom- | There is no other item on wowhead that meets those criteria |
| 07:17.16 | Nom- | not a boe recipe anyway |
| 07:18.29 | Arrowmaster | boe recipe that makes bop boots? |
| 07:18.47 | AnduinLothar | http://www.wowhead.com/?spell=36391 |
| 07:18.51 | Nom- | *nod* |
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| 07:19.22 | Nom- | yep, them, AnduinLothar |
| 07:19.49 | Nom- | Obviously a blizzglitch in my favour :) |
| 07:20.02 | Nom- | Not only because they dropped, but also because I won the roll :) |
| 07:20.10 | AnduinLothar | my guild ah'd them cause when they asked me i said i would take them, but wasn't gonna make them till after my tier2 swd. |
| 07:20.23 | Mr_Rabies2 | i just realized something, JunkHead-Work |
| 07:20.32 | Mr_Rabies2 | oops, he's gone |
| 07:20.50 | Mr_Rabies2 | he wants me to join the PM team on a team called Ante Meridiem |
| 07:21.50 | Nom- | The only real problem with those boots (which isn't really a problem) |
| 07:21.58 | Nom- | They don't have any +str or shield block value |
| 07:22.10 | Nom- | So minor though :) |
| 07:22.21 | Nom- | Everything else about them is A++ |
| 07:22.23 | AnduinLothar | i need new tanking gloves |
| 07:22.36 | Nom- | T4 |
| 07:22.41 | Nom- | 2 piece bonus rox0rs |
| 07:22.45 | AnduinLothar | i'd even take tier4, but we have so many pallies and i already have the ret t4 |
| 07:22.56 | Nom- | lol |
| 07:23.02 | Nom- | I have all 3 sets of T4 pally gloves |
| 07:23.12 | Nom- | They just kept dropping |
| 07:23.18 | AnduinLothar | i have ret and healing helms |
| 07:23.19 | JunkHead-Work | i'M STILL HERE KINDA. |
| 07:23.22 | JunkHead-Work | Caps lock |
| 07:23.28 | Punkie` | I wish I wasn't a pure class, I want more t4 gloves :( |
| 07:23.29 | Nom- | I only have healing helm at the moment |
| 07:23.33 | Nom- | Going for tank one this week if I can |
| 07:23.42 | Nom- | Hopefully it drops |
| 07:23.51 | AnduinLothar | i would have gotten the tank ones too but i have the warhelm off opera already |
| 07:23.59 | AnduinLothar | so it'll have to be defaulted to me again |
| 07:24.13 | JunkHead-Work | And I'm not saying "I want you to join" I'm just giving you an option if you were interested.:P |
| 07:24.14 | AnduinLothar | need shoulders too |
| 07:24.22 | Nom- | The T4 helm is much better than the opera one |
| 07:24.27 | AnduinLothar | but i already got t5 ret shoulders |
| 07:24.36 | Nom- | I have T4 ret shoulders :P |
| 07:24.54 | Nom- | I almost won T5 shoulders on Wednesday, but passed to the other guys that needed them more |
| 07:25.07 | AnduinLothar | yeah i skipped t4 shoulders, but that means i might be able to get the tank ones defaulted |
| 07:25.10 | Nom- | I *so* want the 2 piece T6 bonus |
| 07:25.14 | Nom- | That rocks so much for pally tanks |
| 07:25.19 | Nom- | The 4 piece, not so much |
| 07:25.42 | AnduinLothar | i rly wanted the t4 ret 4pc |
| 07:25.50 | AnduinLothar | but i got the arena2 chest instead |
| 07:26.36 | Nom- | wtf you using SoC for ? :/ |
| 07:26.39 | Nom- | Alliance ? |
| 07:26.45 | AnduinLothar | yes |
| 07:26.50 | Nom- | Ah, that explains it :P |
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| 07:27.03 | Nom- | No horde paladin would bother with the 4 piece bonus |
| 07:27.10 | Nom- | For PvE, nothing beats SoB |
| 07:27.22 | AnduinLothar | SoV is fairly useless |
| 07:27.27 | art3mis | blood? |
| 07:27.29 | AnduinLothar | not even good tanking |
| 07:27.32 | Nom- | Yeah, blood |
| 07:27.46 | AnduinLothar | imp SoR is much better |
| 07:27.58 | Nom- | for what? |
| 07:28.04 | AnduinLothar | tanking, than SoV |
| 07:28.09 | Nom- | Oh, compared to SoV |
| 07:28.19 | Nom- | I thought you were going to say compared to SoB 8| |
| 07:28.31 | AnduinLothar | i don't even remember what sob does |
| 07:28.36 | AnduinLothar | hax apparently |
| 07:28.51 | Nom- | 30% of weapon damage as holy damage, but causes damage equal to 10% of damage inflicted |
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| 07:28.54 | Nom- | something like that |
| 07:29.02 | Nom- | But it's a melee strike, and can crit |
| 07:29.20 | Nom- | with 1600AP, i've hit 900-1200 SoB crits |
| 07:29.26 | AnduinLothar | how is that better than SoC? |
| 07:29.34 | Nom- | Because it procs on every attack |
| 07:29.43 | Nom- | and can crit on every attack |
| 07:29.52 | AnduinLothar | SoC with a 3.8s procs almost every attack |
| 07:29.52 | Nom- | And it procs off windfury |
| 07:30.01 | AnduinLothar | and crits |
| 07:30.20 | Nom- | The damage output is far higher with SoB |
| 07:30.25 | Nom- | It's been theory crafted to death |
| 07:30.28 | Nom- | :) |
| 07:30.58 | Nom- | You don't even bother judging SoB unless you have mana to burn |
| 07:31.04 | Nom- | It's that powerful :P |
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| 07:31.28 | Nom- | A horde paladin with SoB will hit the aggro cap way before an allaince paladin with SoC/SoV |
| 07:31.53 | Nom- | It also gives you a much higher chance of keeping Vengeance up |
| 07:32.09 | Nom- | Because it can crit, and does at the same rate of your melee swings :) |
| 07:32.12 | AnduinLothar | if you say so. i'm always 2nd on agro |
| 07:32.25 | AnduinLothar | soc crits too, for 2k+ |
| 07:32.51 | Nom- | heh... i was running third aggro for an entire gruul with only 1400 ap and 16% crit |
| 07:33.04 | Nom- | That's with salv AND tranquil air |
| 07:33.15 | Nom- | or whatever the shaman totem is that reduces aggro |
| 07:33.22 | art3mis | harvey birdman is such a great show |
| 07:33.36 | Nom- | That's the only problem with it... you can't slow down dps, you can only stop it |
| 07:33.51 | art3mis | Nom-: laugh threat reduction is a joke on shadow priests |
| 07:34.13 | Kirkburn|sleep | What's "laugh threat" ? |
| 07:34.17 | art3mis | dps threat healing threat mana battery threat |
| 07:34.24 | art3mis | laugh, threat ;P |
| 07:34.30 | Kirkburn|sleep | Do mobs aggro when you lol to much? |
| 07:34.36 | AnduinLothar | they're at least ranged tho |
| 07:34.38 | Kirkburn|sleep | I know I aggro when people lol too much |
| 07:34.42 | art3mis | ive never used those 3 letters |
| 07:34.42 | JunkHead-Work | Van Cleef pay big for your head. |
| 07:34.51 | AnduinLothar | and have fade, no? |
| 07:35.07 | art3mis | fade is pretty useless albeit it IS better than it used to be |
| 07:35.40 | art3mis | the only time it's worked well is if im the only one thats damaged a mob OR im so close to the tank that he needs a couple of seconds to beat me |
| 07:36.10 | art3mis | surprisingly though i dont normally pull aggro |
| 07:36.15 | AnduinLothar | either way, it's better than that pallies agro dumps |
| 07:36.36 | art3mis | i usually opt for the greater wisdom |
| 07:36.46 | AnduinLothar | shield 5min cd is about it and it goes back up after |
| 07:36.49 | art3mis | instead of salvation |
| 07:36.57 | AnduinLothar | i cant dps w/o salv |
| 07:37.12 | art3mis | Kirkburn|sleep: scroll up a ways, someone was asking about adding hover over for item links on the wiki |
| 07:37.14 | AnduinLothar | but i much prefer imp might |
| 07:37.29 | Nom- | Ylol |
| 07:37.30 | AnduinLothar | and a mana battery |
| 07:37.42 | Nom- | If you're not pulling aggro as a shadow priest, then your gear isn't good enough |
| 07:37.52 | Nom- | next to warlocks, they have the highest aggro generation of any class :P |
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| 07:38.02 | art3mis | nah it's more a case of knowing that me pulling it is a bad bad bad bad thing ;) |
| 07:38.19 | Nom- | Yeah, which means you're doing far less dps than you could |
| 07:38.22 | art3mis | i still rank top 3-4 most raids for dps |
| 07:38.25 | AnduinLothar | they need to nerf SP dmg, it doesn't make sense for them to out dps warlocks and mages |
| 07:38.37 | AnduinLothar | because they have utility |
| 07:38.38 | art3mis | the only time i cant keep up is when mages or locks aoe |
| 07:38.44 | Nom- | err |
| 07:39.03 | art3mis | aud: look at it this way |
| 07:39.05 | Nom- | If your warlocks and mages are getting outdone by a shadowpriest, then the shadowpriest probably has arena S2 gear and they have crap pve gear |
| 07:39.10 | art3mis | in pve that damage helps you |
| 07:39.33 | art3mis | the only time you should bitch about other classes being overpowered is if you live in the arena ;P |
| 07:39.45 | art3mis | actually i can out pace locks easy |
| 07:39.50 | Nom- | Let's put it this way... if your shadowpriest ticks VE for 150+ then they're way overgeared, and your other casters need to catch up |
| 07:39.54 | art3mis | on long fights anyways |
| 07:40.01 | art3mis | thier burst damage destroys me though |
| 07:40.13 | Nom- | We've got one shadow priest whose' mind flay ticks VE for 180 damage |
| 07:40.21 | art3mis | vt? |
| 07:40.27 | art3mis | cuz my ve is around 500 |
| 07:40.32 | art3mis | err ve/mf |
| 07:40.43 | art3mis | and thats kind of crappy |
| 07:41.01 | art3mis | oh wait nm i read that totally wrong |
| 07:41.14 | art3mis | my ve heals are about 145 |
| 07:41.20 | Nom- | That's VE mind flay |
| 07:41.25 | Nom- | as in the heals are 180 to 190 damage |
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| 07:41.38 | art3mis | dont say damage ;P |
| 07:41.39 | Nom- | ie. 720 to 760 per tick |
| 07:41.48 | art3mis | thats the part that messes me up ;P |
| 07:41.54 | Nom- | lol |
| 07:42.02 | art3mis | ive only got 963 or so +shadow |
| 07:42.09 | Nom- | yeah well all i see is the heal ticks on me, but i presume, based on the talents that it's hitting that level |
| 07:42.16 | Mr_Rabies2 | i can't stop laughing at this hammerfall video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4JH0zc_DnN4&mode=related&search= |
| 07:42.20 | art3mis | then again i dont farm kara for gear or heroics for that matter |
| 07:42.31 | Mr_Rabies2 | hammerfall is so cheesy |
| 07:42.35 | Mr_Rabies2 | but i can't stop listening to them |
| 07:42.45 | art3mis | i can spike to about 175 ticks with a trinket |
| 07:42.52 | Mr_Rabies2 | plus, samwise does the album art for them, so they're cool by me |
| 07:42.53 | Mr_Rabies2 | :O |
| 07:42.54 | art3mis | and if CoS is on the mob im a god ;P |
| 07:43.37 | Nom- | It's rather OP... that's like 2200 damage from one round of mind flay |
| 07:43.49 | Nom- | Coz it's 3 ticks per cast right ? |
| 07:44.47 | Nom- | But it's all good... i remember running heroic sp with him one time... i actually swapped to dps gear because the VE was topping up the MT faster than i could heal |
| 07:44.53 | art3mis | yeah if yer not hit 3 ticks |
| 07:45.36 | art3mis | the thing i love most about it is that it dioesnt hit the inital first second, but always hits the last |
| 07:45.51 | art3mis | my pains are great too |
| 07:46.03 | art3mis | i killed a level 40 hunter with my dot at xroads the other day |
| 07:46.11 | art3mis | dotted him and he started running away |
| 07:46.25 | art3mis | then up flashes the honour points |
| 07:46.48 | AnduinLothar | oh man, this wd with mongoose is leet looking |
| 07:46.52 | AnduinLothar | swd* |
| 07:47.02 | AnduinLothar | downright scary |
| 07:47.10 | AnduinLothar | i wouldn't want to meet me in arena |
| 07:47.57 | Nom- | lol |
| 07:48.21 | Nom- | Ganking alliance in the barrens is much fun |
| 07:48.30 | Nom- | It's not like they can have a cry...they were in horde territory :P |
| 07:49.40 | AnduinLothar | heh, i have a green glow and sparklestatic and an orange tral of puffies |
| 07:49.49 | AnduinLothar | it's like 3 glows lol |
| 07:51.02 | Mr_Rabies2 | is that scroll bug still in? |
| 07:51.27 | Mr_Rabies2 | where you can click a scroll, then a lower rank of the same one, move the instant you click it, and the glow doesn't fade? |
| 07:51.32 | AnduinLothar | http://www.karlkfi.com/WoW/SparkleShark.jpg |
| 07:51.54 | Mr_Rabies2 | anduinlothar is a blingadin |
| 07:51.59 | Mr_Rabies2 | or possibly a vegasdin |
| 07:52.15 | Mr_Rabies2 | prefixes are important to the paladin class if i learned anything from Diablo 2 |
| 07:52.19 | AnduinLothar | lol |
| 07:52.24 | AnduinLothar | yes |
| 07:52.37 | AnduinLothar | cause they's good for almost everythign except ranged |
| 07:53.01 | AnduinLothar | tho in D2 we had circle hammer and that undead starfire |
| 07:53.41 | art3mis | i want monk form ;P |
| 07:53.49 | Mr_Rabies2 | oh god |
| 07:53.50 | Mr_Rabies2 | hammerdins |
| 07:53.55 | Mr_Rabies2 | were so freaking evil |
| 07:53.57 | Nom- | lol paladin was so OP in Diablo 2 |
| 07:53.59 | Mr_Rabies2 | you'd be standing in town |
| 07:54.06 | Nom- | They nerfed them later though |
| 07:54.11 | Mr_Rabies2 | then all of a sudden these random hammers would show up and kick your ass |
| 07:54.15 | Nom- | I remember getting those combo attacks with..what was that ability called? |
| 07:54.18 | JunkHead-Work | Mr_Rabies2 |
| 07:54.21 | Mr_Rabies2 | zeal, nom? |
| 07:54.24 | JunkHead-Work | you see what i typed? |
| 07:54.25 | Nom- | Zeal yeah |
| 07:54.27 | Mr_Rabies2 | zeal + charge = OW |
| 07:54.30 | JunkHead-Work | And I'm not saying "I want you to join" I'm just giving you an option if you were interested.:P |
| 07:54.37 | Nom- | I'd stack that up to like 10+ points and you just press one button and watch stuff die :P |
| 07:54.43 | Mr_Rabies2 | i know :P |
| 07:54.54 | JunkHead-Work | But were you looking for me? |
| 07:55.14 | Mr_Rabies2 | i just couldn't think of a better way to phrase the sentence |
| 07:55.32 | Mr_Rabies2 | but joining the PM team of a guild called Ante Meridiem makes me laugh |
| 07:55.32 | JunkHead-Work | hehhehe. |
| 07:55.49 | JunkHead-Work | Well, we started out as AM only. |
| 07:56.01 | JunkHead-Work | Only about 2 months ago did we start a PM team. |
| 07:56.06 | Mr_Rabies2 | amazons |
| 07:56.10 | Mr_Rabies2 | amazons, let's not go there |
| 07:56.15 | Mr_Rabies2 | magic arrow and multishot |
| 07:56.17 | Mr_Rabies2 | :( |
| 07:56.33 | Mr_Rabies2 | my druid hit like a brick though |
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| 07:56.46 | Mr_Rabies2 | 5000-10000 a swing or so |
| 07:57.02 | Mr_Rabies2 | with a fully charged maul in werebear form |
| 07:57.08 | Mr_Rabies2 | rawr |
| 07:58.49 | Mr_Rabies2 | AnduinLothar, has anyone ever told you that they get a viking vibe from you |
| 07:59.02 | AnduinLothar | in game? |
| 07:59.22 | AnduinLothar | no |
| 07:59.29 | AnduinLothar | i dont know many vikings |
| 07:59.36 | JunkHead-Work | Lothar!!!! Of the Hill People!!! |
| 07:59.38 | AnduinLothar | but i liek their goals |
| 07:59.55 | AnduinLothar | pillage towns and steal women |
| 08:00.11 | JunkHead-Work | And rape the horses? And ride off on the women? |
| 08:00.32 | AnduinLothar | depends on the size of the women |
| 08:00.41 | JunkHead-Work | Big and Burly. |
| 08:00.43 | Mr_Rabies2 | no i mean |
| 08:00.44 | Nom- | lol |
| 08:00.44 | Mr_Rabies2 | in reality |
| 08:00.51 | Mr_Rabies2 | i get a weird viking vibe from you |
| 08:00.56 | AnduinLothar | lol, no |
| 08:01.00 | Mr_Rabies2 | are you secretly a viking |
| 08:01.02 | AnduinLothar | i need a viking helm them |
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| 08:01.11 | Thunder_Child | he has the hair for it |
| 08:01.13 | AnduinLothar | i have a navy russian surplus hat.. |
| 08:01.33 | AnduinLothar | classign black |
| 08:01.35 | Mr_Rabies2 | maybe it's just my mental line of thought |
| 08:01.40 | AnduinLothar | none of the noob grey the army got |
| 08:01.51 | Mr_Rabies2 | long blond hair = norse guitar player = viking |
| 08:01.55 | Thunder_Child | i'm tellin ya, he has the hair for a viking |
| 08:02.04 | AnduinLothar | i tried to pick up guitar |
| 08:02.09 | AnduinLothar | i know like 4 chords |
| 08:02.19 | Mr_Rabies2 | that's 3 more than i |
| 08:02.23 | JunkHead-Work | That's all you need. |
| 08:02.25 | Mr_Rabies2 | i tried also and failed miserably |
| 08:02.29 | JunkHead-Work | Look how well Nirvana did. |
| 08:02.36 | JunkHead-Work | I don't even think they knew 4. |
| 08:02.57 | Mr_Rabies2 | i can play guitar hero |
| 08:02.58 | Mr_Rabies2 | kinda |
| 08:03.01 | Mr_Rabies2 | does that count :( |
| 08:03.09 | JunkHead-Work | Nope. |
| 08:03.17 | art3mis | Van Hallan? |
| 08:03.21 | JunkHead-Work | Although, being able to play guitar helps in GH. |
| 08:03.23 | art3mis | from the super friends? |
| 08:03.27 | JunkHead-Work | But only to keep rhythm |
| 08:03.35 | Mr_Rabies2 | the nirvana song in GH2 is so easy because it's the same rhythm through like 90% of the song |
| 08:03.37 | art3mis | err jujstice friends |
| 08:03.38 | Mr_Rabies2 | it's heart shaped box |
| 08:03.46 | JunkHead-Work | Some songs on Guitar Hero are harder than playing them on a real guitar. |
| 08:03.54 | Mr_Rabies2 | yeah, jordan being one |
| 08:03.59 | Mr_Rabies2 | buckethead cheats and uses a killswitch >:[ |
| 08:04.12 | JunkHead-Work | Buckethead is a monster. |
| 08:04.15 | Mr_Rabies2 | and doesn't play the solo |
| 08:04.16 | JunkHead-Work | Insane to listen to. |
| 08:04.24 | Mr_Rabies2 | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pytlmRmxZkA |
| 08:04.26 | Mr_Rabies2 | check that out |
| 08:04.31 | JunkHead-Work | Can't right now. |
| 08:04.34 | JunkHead-Work | Got WoW going. |
| 08:04.35 | Mr_Rabies2 | he uses the killswitch because picking would be impossible |
| 08:04.43 | JunkHead-Work | And this Pc can barely handle wow and mirc. |
| 08:05.52 | haste | what's a killswitch? |
| 08:05.59 | Mr_Rabies2 | that little button he's pressing |
| 08:06.14 | Mr_Rabies2 | it cuts the sound off, usually used for singers |
| 08:06.25 | JunkHead-Work | one sec. |
| 08:06.28 | JunkHead-Work | I can look now. |
| 08:06.30 | Mr_Rabies2 | so when they're not playing you don't hear the strings ringing everytime someone bumps them |
| 08:06.34 | zenzelezz | killswitch is that thing the government implants into babies zomg |
| 08:07.10 | Mr_Rabies2 | buckethead's guitar is made of BABIES |
| 08:07.24 | Mr_Rabies2 | it's the only logical explanation. |
| 08:08.01 | zenzelezz | it all makes sense now |
| 08:09.01 | JunkHead-Work | I like that song. |
| 08:10.03 | art3mis | check out the les claypool and buckethead song |
| 08:10.09 | art3mis | thats just damn catchy |
| 08:10.51 | JunkHead-Work | not a big les claypool fan. |
| 08:11.21 | art3mis | i like the early primus stuff |
| 08:11.28 | art3mis | the later stuff hes done is meh |
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| 08:14.13 | art3mis | well that explains a bit |
| 08:14.26 | art3mis | anthrax and buckethead did the music for ghosts of mars |
| 08:16.32 | JunkHead-Work | I figured John Carpenter would've done it. |
| 08:16.39 | JunkHead-Work | Or at least some of it. |
| 08:16.58 | art3mis | he scored it all |
| 08:17.01 | art3mis | they performed it |
| 08:17.08 | JunkHead-Work | Ah. |
| 08:17.15 | art3mis | i liked that movie |
| 08:17.21 | JunkHead-Work | Carpenter also has played guitar in a lot of his movies' music. |
| 08:17.26 | art3mis | it was so horribly bad you cant help but watch it over and over |
| 08:18.11 | JunkHead-Work | I love john carpenter's movies. |
| 08:18.54 | art3mis | most of them are pretty good |
| 08:20.16 | Thunder_Child | lawl "Fact of life: One woman brings you into this world crying & the other ensures you continue to do so for the rest of your life!" |
| 08:21.09 | art3mis | Rule of thumb: Never trust anything that can bleed for a week and not die. |
| 08:21.57 | Mr_Rabies2 | rule of thumb? that's not that bad, shoulda been a rule of the wrist |
| 08:22.01 | AnduinLothar | my new title: Sparkle Sword Doom Shark |
| 08:22.08 | Mr_Rabies2 | ^^best line from boondock saints |
| 08:22.24 | JunkHead-Work | I have that movie. |
| 08:22.34 | JunkHead-Work | It was pretty good. |
| 08:22.44 | Mr_Rabies2 | yeah, it was |
| 08:22.59 | Mr_Rabies2 | it's not the godly movie that a lot of people make it out to be, but it's pretty good |
| 08:23.12 | Mr_Rabies2 | the slapfight in the vents was the best scene altogether |
| 08:23.38 | Mr_Rabies2 | "what're we gonna need da stupid fuckin' rope fer?" |
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| 08:24.54 | JunkHead-Work | I got chicken. |
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| 08:25.00 | JunkHead-Work | And mashed potatos. |
| 08:25.08 | JunkHead-Work | Anyone jealous? |
| 08:25.25 | SparkleSwordDoom | Rawr |
| 08:25.27 | SparkleSwordDoom | doesn't fix QQ |
| 08:25.27 | art3mis | not really i have twinkies |
| 08:25.29 | SparkleSwordDoom | fit* |
| 08:25.36 | art3mis | heh |
| 08:25.38 | zenzelezz | don't thiunk I understand the title anyway |
| 08:25.39 | JunkHead-Work | Twinkies are ok. |
| 08:25.45 | zenzelezz | *think |
| 08:25.48 | JunkHead-Work | I like Snowballs though. |
| 08:25.53 | JunkHead-Work | Those big pink things. |
| 08:25.54 | art3mis | he got mongoose on his new sword |
| 08:26.00 | art3mis | oh yeah those are awesome |
| 08:26.15 | JunkHead-Work | I got... what's it called... |
| 08:26.23 | JunkHead-Work | Savagery on my Gorehowl. |
| 08:26.25 | art3mis | ya kow what love... the white sugary ring on the carmel squares |
| 08:26.25 | JunkHead-Work | :P |
| 08:26.41 | JunkHead-Work | Yeah. |
| 08:26.42 | art3mis | err lets try that again |
| 08:26.44 | JunkHead-Work | What about... |
| 08:26.50 | JunkHead-Work | Little powdered donuts? |
| 08:26.55 | JunkHead-Work | mmm |
| 08:26.59 | art3mis | heh i have a bag of those |
| 08:27.04 | JunkHead-Work | Those rock. |
| 08:27.11 | art3mis | ya know what i discovered hostess started making? |
| 08:27.14 | art3mis | donut holes |
| 08:27.18 | JunkHead-Work | ! |
| 08:27.22 | JunkHead-Work | They any good? |
| 08:27.27 | art3mis | almost as good as the krispy kreme ones |
| 08:27.32 | JunkHead-Work | wow. |
| 08:27.40 | art3mis | you ahve one and then shovel the rest down yer gullet |
| 08:27.43 | JunkHead-Work | Best thing hostess ever made though... |
| 08:27.53 | JunkHead-Work | Those cupcakes with the white chain on top. |
| 08:27.59 | art3mis | ding dongs |
| 08:28.01 | JunkHead-Work | You can't go wrong with those... ever. |
| 08:28.09 | art3mis | jelly rolls |
| 08:28.12 | JunkHead-Work | Which one sare ding dongs? |
| 08:28.19 | JunkHead-Work | I get them mixed up. |
| 08:28.28 | art3mis | heh me too |
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| 08:28.43 | art3mis | the ding dongs are the small round cream layer chocolate things |
| 08:28.50 | JunkHead-Work | http://www.hostesscakes.com/products.asp |
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| 08:29.11 | JunkHead-Work | and hohos are the swirly ones. |
| 08:29.13 | art3mis | i miss moonpies |
| 08:29.24 | art3mis | and joe louis's |
| 08:29.25 | JunkHead-Work | little debbie makes good moon pies. |
| 08:29.45 | art3mis | vortmans in canada used to make em |
| 08:29.53 | art3mis | cant find a good version in the states |
| 08:29.57 | art3mis | ohohoh |
| 08:30.08 | art3mis | those soft cookies with the jelly circle in the middle |
| 08:30.31 | JunkHead-Work | hmm... |
| 08:31.08 | art3mis | welp time for bed, got a service call around noon |
| 08:31.11 | art3mis | ciao |
| 08:31.12 | JunkHead-Work | seeya |
| 08:31.37 | art3mis | now that im all hungry for bad food ;P |
| 08:31.44 | JunkHead-Work | haha |
| 08:31.55 | JunkHead-Work | Chewy Chips Ahoy! |
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| 08:42.09 | Mr_Rabies2 | wait a sec |
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| 08:42.51 | Mr_Rabies2 | nevermind, wrong channel :x |
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| 09:14.17 | Legorol | morning |
| 09:14.39 | Legorol | does anyone know if the voice chat is already active on the PTR or not? |
| 09:16.57 | Mr_Rabies2 | i think the framework is |
| 09:17.01 | Mr_Rabies2 | but the server has it disabled atm |
| 09:17.10 | Mr_Rabies2 | the full framework now |
| 09:17.20 | Mr_Rabies2 | they'll probably enable the server portion soon |
| 09:26.10 | Mr_Rabies2 | and lo, the shaman forums, did they erupt in chaos and despair, for their beloved totem using the fury of the wind, it had been nerfed |
| 09:27.16 | Legorol | lol |
| 09:27.58 | Mr_Rabies2 | i really agree it sucks though, hopefully that was an oversight and gets revoked |
| 09:28.01 | zenzelezz | it wasn't nerfed, the wind just died down a bit |
| 09:29.33 | Legorol | haha :D |
| 09:29.59 | nevcairiel | lol |
| 09:32.21 | Mr_Rabies2 | i'm not effected by windfury at all on my druid, but that'd be like them deciding to nerf improved leader of the pack in a hotfix |
| 09:33.38 | Mr_Rabies2 | maybe someone was exploiting something with it and they just temporarily nerfed it till they can fix said exploit :( |
| 09:41.38 | MentalPower | gnight guys |
| 09:43.01 | Nom- | three cheers for beer and food which chewed up the last 1.5 hrs of my work day |
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| 11:47.30 | zenzelezz | so this person called "Sayplz" asks me to come tank SL... but doesn't say please/pls/plz |
| 11:48.04 | nevcairiel | lol |
| 11:50.45 | JunkHead-Work | Did you ask him what the magic word was? |
| 11:51.00 | zenzelezz | doh, I should have done that :-( |
| 11:51.50 | JunkHead-Work | I'm confused. |
| 11:52.07 | JunkHead-Work | I'm at work, and I'm a police dispatcher. |
| 11:52.24 | JunkHead-Work | The officer I have out now, is on school traffic duty. |
| 11:52.33 | JunkHead-Work | Today is the second day of school here. |
| 11:52.43 | JunkHead-Work | I get a call from a guy saying his truck was stolen. |
| 11:53.00 | JunkHead-Work | I give it to the officer, and he simply says to pass it on to the next shift. |
| 11:53.30 | JunkHead-Work | I might not be the brightest guy... But a stolen vehicle sounds a little more important than school traffic. |
| 11:54.52 | [dRaCo] | but the little children! |
| 11:59.01 | Wobin_ | Won't -someone- think of the children! |
| 11:59.56 | JunkHead-Work | *Looks around* |
| 11:59.58 | JunkHead-Work | ... |
| 12:00.04 | JunkHead-Work | Guess not... |
| 12:01.14 | Arrowmaster | isnt stolen vehicle just go meet guy whos truck was stolen and take a report fill out paperwork and other such stuff that can be done anytime |
| 12:01.28 | JunkHead-Work | Yup. |
| 12:01.51 | JunkHead-Work | But school traffic is just standing by the patrol car wave your arms so certain lanes can pass and whatnot. |
| 12:01.52 | Arrowmaster | although i have no clue what kinda school traffic duty hes on |
| 12:02.16 | Arrowmaster | ah the kinda school traffic that requires actual work |
| 12:02.21 | JunkHead-Work | Yeah. |
| 12:02.32 | JunkHead-Work | Also for kids who walk across the street and such. |
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| 12:02.35 | Arrowmaster | at my highschool there was always a cop out front at the end of the day |
| 12:02.38 | Arrowmaster | always |
| 12:02.42 | JunkHead-Work | Yep. |
| 12:02.53 | Cidan | So I was like, DUDE |
| 12:02.53 | JunkHead-Work | He wasn't there for handling traffic though. |
| 12:02.53 | Arrowmaster | but just to sit there and make sure people didnt do stupid shit |
| 12:02.56 | JunkHead-Work | Yeah |
| 12:02.59 | Cidan | and he was like DUDE |
| 12:03.03 | Cidan | Yeah. |
| 12:03.04 | JunkHead-Work | He was there to catch speeders and dumbasses. |
| 12:04.01 | Arrowmaster | where i went to school, if there wasnt a cop out there, there would be many trucks doing burnouts |
| 12:04.18 | Arrowmaster | and other such stuff |
| 12:06.14 | JunkHead-Work | Same. |
| 12:06.45 | Cidan | Huh. |
| 12:06.55 | Cidan | At my highschool, we had cops on the grounds |
| 12:07.01 | Cidan | At least 4-5 |
| 12:07.41 | Cidan | We had a huge racial-hatred thing going on at the time. Blacks vs Latino's, etc. |
| 12:07.46 | Cidan | It got pretty bad. |
| 12:08.07 | Arrowmaster | we had 1 at my original highschool, but then i transfered to a vocational school and i know the head of security was either a former local police officer or still was one not really sure |
| 12:11.08 | Cidan | Huh. |
| 12:11.24 | JunkHead-Work | We never really had any racial hatred at my school. |
| 12:11.40 | JunkHead-Work | We had fights of course, but nothing serious. |
| 12:11.54 | zenzelezz | there was lots of racial hatred in my school, particularly towards Will of the Forsaken |
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| 12:13.23 | zenzelezz | well I thought it was funny anyway |
| 12:16.30 | Cidan | lol |
| 12:16.50 | Cidan | Miami Beach was rough, but over all I enjoyed it. |
| 12:16.56 | Cidan | Wish I could have said that back then. |
| 12:17.36 | Punkie` | do you guys life in a ghetto or something |
| 12:18.01 | Punkie` | i've never even thought of that type of stuff in english schools :P |
| 12:19.25 | Cidan | Miami Beach Senior High man |
| 12:19.39 | Cidan | The school had almost 3000 kids |
| 12:19.43 | Cidan | 9-12th grade |
| 12:19.59 | Punkie` | my college had 2,600 kids |
| 12:20.01 | Punkie` | same age |
| 12:20.16 | Cidan | College? |
| 12:20.41 | Punkie` | school |
| 12:20.46 | Cidan | :P |
| 12:20.58 | [Liquidor] | Could someone check out if their US account works? http://reputation.mygamesonline.org/ |
| 12:21.42 | Cidan | aye |
| 12:21.43 | Cidan | I show up |
| 12:22.03 | Cidan | Not sure if it's accurate |
| 12:22.18 | Cidan | Pulled from Blizzard website? |
| 12:22.19 | [Liquidor] | gief link |
| 12:22.25 | [Liquidor] | ye from armory |
| 12:22.31 | Cidan | http://reputation.mygamesonline.org/?US=Cidan.Eredar |
| 12:22.38 | Cidan | some things are "undiscovered" |
| 12:22.39 | Punkie` | the bars stagger on Opera btw |
| 12:22.53 | [Liquidor] | uhm a bug with linking, gotta fix that |
| 12:22.54 | Cidan | Firefox works fine |
| 12:23.26 | Punkie` | the thumbs up dude needs some alpha too :P |
| 12:29.02 | Punkie` | [Liquidor]: If you are looking for traffic to your website you should make an 'armory lite edition' which pulls the data from a character profile but doesn't give all the ajax crap :P |
| 12:29.53 | [Liquidor] | You're the first one to post a problem with it tho, and tbh I could give a fuck about Opera |
| 12:29.59 | [Liquidor] | It works with IE, FF and Safari |
| 12:30.42 | [Liquidor] | A bit sloppy with IE but IE doesn't like JS events that much. |
| 12:30.51 | [Liquidor] | Engine sucks |
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| 12:34.32 | Cidan | hmm |
| 12:34.46 | Cidan | Consider caching the data, imo |
| 12:34.53 | Cidan | save on your bandwidth |
| 12:35.04 | Cidan | cache it for like, an hour |
| 12:35.06 | Cidan | or more |
| 12:35.19 | Cidan | unless it's not an issue for you, :P |
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| 12:42.45 | [Liquidor] | caching is on the todo but not on high prio |
| 12:43.37 | [Liquidor] | right now im having an issue with US linking :S |
| 12:43.53 | [Liquidor] | the code is identical between US and EU tho US linking doesn't work |
| 12:44.36 | zenzelezz | O_o |
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| 12:45.33 | zenzelezz | I find the TBC only checkbox annoying |
| 12:45.43 | zenzelezz | since it doesn't do anything yet :-p |
| 12:47.57 | [Liquidor] | heh |
| 12:48.12 | zenzelezz | and I sort of preferred the blueish layout from yesterday, but still good |
| 12:48.13 | [Liquidor] | Cidan, believe it or not !!! But your realm ONLY was the one causing issue on the site. |
| 12:48.35 | [Liquidor] | Out of 224 realms |
| 12:48.44 | [Liquidor] | zenzelezz, I'm not a designer :) |
| 13:01.01 | Cidan | er |
| 13:01.02 | Cidan | I was? |
| 13:01.29 | Cidan | Could it be because I've not played in 4 months? |
| 13:01.38 | Cidan | and I have yet to uncover a lot of the places? |
| 13:01.43 | Cidan | I don't even have a flying mount. |
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| 13:02.52 | [Liquidor] | Cidan, it wasn't your character that screwed up the page. It was the realm listed in the database as "Eredar " (with a space) |
| 13:03.07 | Cidan | Ah ha |
| 13:03.08 | Cidan | :P |
| 13:03.36 | Cidan | Well, I guess we're just that special on Eredar |
| 13:03.37 | [Liquidor] | heh quite insane. 1 out of 224 |
| 13:05.11 | Cidan | Whew, okay, Filesystem is in, now to work on the windowing system. |
| 13:05.13 | Cidan | Blegh. |
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| 13:44.06 | Legorol | Guys and girls, has voice chat been activated on the US PTRs yet? |
| 13:44.09 | Legorol | and morning Beladona |
| 13:44.15 | Beladona | morning |
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| 13:48.19 | Cidan | Voice chat is in 2.2? |
| 13:49.07 | Beladona | it most likely will be |
| 13:49.14 | Beladona | they still have a lot of testing to go |
| 13:49.32 | Cidan | Interesting. |
| 13:50.01 | Cidan | will there be an API for us to use? |
| 13:50.10 | Cidan | Say, for custom on screen displays? |
| 13:50.14 | clad|sleep | yes |
| 13:50.18 | Cidan | Woohoo. |
| 13:50.20 | cladhaire | its already on the PTR |
| 13:50.23 | Cidan | oh hi Cladhaire, :P |
| 13:50.24 | cladhaire | and been released/talked about |
| 13:50.26 | cladhaire | hai |
| 13:50.40 | Cidan | Sorry, I've been moving and not been around. |
| 13:50.54 | cladhaire | heheh np :P |
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| 13:54.47 | Cidan | rewriting RDX from scratch with a new name |
| 13:54.57 | Cidan | Shirik had already started it by the time I got back. |
| 13:56.50 | cladhaire | yeah i know.. sounds like fun =) |
| 14:14.06 | Nom- | Any Paladins suggest what to focus on for prot dps ? |
| 14:14.21 | Nom- | Stack melee stats, like ret, or spell stats like holy ? |
| 14:15.59 | Beladona | I am not a paladin, but if you are shooting for dps you will probably want spell damage / holy I would think |
| 14:16.43 | Nom- | well just need a set for soloing |
| 14:16.48 | Nom- | *ponder* |
| 14:19.19 | Beladona | sad = being a main tank for your guild for a long time, but now that I have a 70 shaman alt they want me to bring him. and I have seen 3 drops I wanted go to someone else because I wasn't on my warrior |
| 14:19.27 | Beladona | yay for alts =( |
| 14:19.41 | nevcairiel | just refuse to bring the shaman =P |
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| 14:19.59 | Beladona | I am an officer, and care too much about bringing what they need |
| 14:20.05 | Beladona | unfortunately |
| 14:20.05 | jme | Beladona: delete the shaman |
| 14:20.09 | Beladona | oh god no |
| 14:20.13 | jme | haha |
| 14:20.14 | jme | :D |
| 14:20.21 | Beladona | I have him at 1600 healing and he heals like a champ |
| 14:20.26 | Beladona | I am not going through that again |
| 14:20.32 | deltron | shaman > * |
| 14:20.36 | Legorol | spec away from resto ;-) |
| 14:20.43 | Legorol | solves the problem |
| 14:20.46 | Beladona | lol |
| 14:20.57 | deltron | I just went elemental on my shammy |
| 14:20.58 | jme | deltron: i'm too cheap to buy rare gems for my epics yet :() |
| 14:20.58 | deltron | I love it |
| 14:21.00 | jme | err :( |
| 14:21.09 | deltron | :O |
| 14:21.13 | Beladona | I had him enhancement before 70. and I do still have a set |
| 14:21.24 | jme | well the orange one on my wrists is rare heh |
| 14:21.31 | deltron | Beladona: http://tinyurl.com/2wrbn7 |
| 14:21.36 | Beladona | I am just gonna make them let me go. I am tired of missing out on t4 shoulders damnit |
| 14:21.49 | jme | Beladona: definitely |
| 14:21.55 | deltron | I have a full tier 4 resto set for my shammy |
| 14:22.09 | Beladona | nice |
| 14:22.44 | deltron | I had pretty good gear heh |
| 14:22.53 | Beladona | http://armory.worldofwarcraft.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Azjol-Nerub&n=Shawned |
| 14:22.54 | deltron | 12K mana unbuffed |
| 14:22.57 | jme | sucks that there's not any gear for huntards from heroics |
| 14:23.03 | deltron | sure there is |
| 14:23.06 | jme | except some bracers and a cloak from badges |
| 14:23.19 | jme | and the cloak isn't even as good as the dps cloak from shade |
| 14:23.21 | deltron | boots |
| 14:23.24 | Beladona | dont have enchant on the chest yet because that dropped last night |
| 14:23.33 | jme | i already have my boots :) |
| 14:23.50 | nevcairiel | enchanting stuff is the first thing i do when raid is over =P |
| 14:23.52 | deltron | that chest never dropped for me :( |
| 14:24.03 | deltron | I never got the healing mace from maiden either :( |
| 14:24.11 | deltron | or the whirlwind bracers |
| 14:24.34 | jme | last night was the first time i've actually seen netherspite downed by my guild, hah |
| 14:24.40 | jme | every time before it's been a wipefest with noobs |
| 14:24.50 | deltron | it's a real fun fight |
| 14:24.51 | jme | we one shotted him.. it was beautiful |
| 14:25.19 | Beladona | we definitely have Kara on farm |
| 14:25.23 | jme | it sucked that by the end of that everyone wanted to go to bed and called the raid :( |
| 14:25.27 | nevcairiel | we dont even go kara anymore |
| 14:25.29 | nevcairiel | its soo boring |
| 14:25.34 | Beladona | we had a shortage of mages this week for some reason, so we went in with all melee minus the healers |
| 14:25.40 | jme | lol |
| 14:25.47 | Beladona | and we still downed Curator in two evocates |
| 14:25.54 | Beladona | not to mention Shade and all those |
| 14:26.05 | deltron | my coworker's guild did curator in 2 minutes once |
| 14:26.11 | Beladona | yeah tahts what we did |
| 14:26.14 | jme | lol |
| 14:26.16 | Beladona | its totally possible |
| 14:26.32 | deltron | we almost did last night |
| 14:26.35 | Beladona | and Shade died before he would drink |
| 14:26.37 | jme | we still can't get that last freaking flayer down fast enough that shows up right when he evocates |
| 14:26.39 | Beladona | could* |
| 14:26.51 | jme | so it takes us 3 evocates |
| 14:27.02 | Beladona | Chain Heal is godly on all melee on Curator |
| 14:27.05 | Beladona | =) |
| 14:27.23 | deltron | yeah |
| 14:27.46 | deltron | we only had one pure melee last night |
| 14:27.49 | deltron | other than tanks |
| 14:28.48 | Beladona | we have done Kara in 2 days consistently |
| 14:29.05 | Beladona | last night we said "you know what, lets stop early and just do Nightbane tomorrow |
| 14:29.11 | nevcairiel | 2 days? |
| 14:29.15 | deltron | my old guild before it broke up did it in a night |
| 14:29.16 | nevcairiel | kara is like 3-4h |
| 14:29.18 | Beladona | so this week will be 3 only because we wanted an early night |
| 14:29.41 | jme | nevcairiel: hah not for us |
| 14:29.45 | Beladona | nev, 3-4h for every boss? |
| 14:29.51 | nevcairiel | yeah |
| 14:29.56 | jme | oh |
| 14:29.58 | nevcairiel | except that optional beast thnig |
| 14:29.59 | Beladona | ok I don't believe that |
| 14:30.02 | jme | no |
| 14:30.06 | jme | we do the first half in like 3 hours |
| 14:30.13 | nevcairiel | thats perfectly possible |
| 14:30.21 | nevcairiel | we run kara every week since february |
| 14:30.29 | Beladona | maybe with SSC gear |
| 14:30.31 | nevcairiel | you get faster over time :P |
| 14:30.52 | Beladona | yeah I see that, I just don't see how you can squeeze that many bosses in 4 hours |
| 14:31.01 | Beladona | even with all one-shots |
| 14:31.02 | jme | aoe all the trash? |
| 14:31.03 | nevcairiel | oh well yeah our gear is certainly a bonus :P |
| 14:31.17 | Beladona | unless you are past Kara, which seems like awaste to me |
| 14:31.20 | Beladona | =P |
| 14:31.28 | jme | unless you're gearing up noobs |
| 14:31.38 | nevcairiel | generally like 2-3 alts |
| 14:31.39 | Beladona | I guess |
| 14:31.43 | nevcairiel | but we stopped going now |
| 14:31.49 | nevcairiel | http://armory.wow-europe.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Antonidas&n=Nevcairiel |
| 14:31.54 | nevcairiel | my gear for comparison .. :p |
| 14:31.57 | Beladona | I mean we are almost to the point where we won't be going except for farm |
| 14:32.02 | jme | we are definitely ready for gruul's now |
| 14:32.09 | nevcairiel | oh damn had farming gear an |
| 14:32.10 | nevcairiel | hehe |
| 14:32.10 | Beladona | starting to push on to Gruuls and SSC |
| 14:32.11 | jme | first attempt sunday, and i'll be freaking out of town |
| 14:32.25 | Beladona | Gruuls is easy |
| 14:32.30 | Beladona | at least I think so |
| 14:32.52 | nevcairiel | we're on shade of akama in black tempe now .. ok unfair advantages in kara i guess :D |
| 14:33.00 | Beladona | there is a learning curve with the pulls on Maulgar, and I guess the positioning on Gruul himself, but once you got that its a cake walk |
| 14:33.02 | jme | nevcairiel: haha |
| 14:33.14 | jme | nevcairiel: i so want to take a raid in full t5/t6 back to kara someday and do it in like 3 hours |
| 14:33.31 | jme | Beladona: yeah, i expect a few wipes to learn the pull |
| 14:33.33 | Beladona | our server only has like one guild in bt |
| 14:33.36 | nevcairiel | its like running bwl in t3 .. 3h fundraiser |
| 14:33.37 | nevcairiel | :P |
| 14:34.30 | nevcairiel | speaking of T3 |
| 14:34.41 | nevcairiel | i am really happy about the naxxramas return |
| 14:35.43 | Beladona | did they say for sure they were doing it? |
| 14:36.46 | nevcairiel | tigole practically did |
| 14:37.14 | jme | i never saw any of the pre-TBC content |
| 14:37.31 | jme | <- december 11th nub |
| 14:37.32 | nevcairiel | entry-level raid content for lvl 80 |
| 14:37.34 | nevcairiel | like MC was |
| 14:37.46 | nevcairiel | but i loved naxxramas |
| 14:38.01 | zenzelezz | same |
| 14:38.05 | zenzelezz | I only got to take six bosses :( |
| 14:38.10 | jme | i wonder if they're going up to T9 |
| 14:38.21 | nevcairiel | who knows |
| 14:38.40 | nevcairiel | someone will name it t7 8 9 anyway |
| 14:38.44 | nevcairiel | official or not :P |
| 14:38.50 | jme | yeah |
| 14:39.08 | nevcairiel | but i guess t7 will be used in tbc already |
| 14:39.17 | nevcairiel | "unannounced raid zone before expansion" |
| 14:39.19 | nevcairiel | et al |
| 14:39.19 | jme | so why didn't blizz include belt/boots in the tier sets anymore? |
| 14:39.29 | jme | oh yeah. |
| 14:39.32 | nevcairiel | they said for more flexibility |
| 14:39.48 | jme | heh |
| 14:39.50 | nevcairiel | its not too bad tbh |
| 14:40.26 | jme | well they made the offset ones pretty obvious to which set they match |
| 14:40.32 | nevcairiel | yeah |
| 14:40.35 | nevcairiel | even right looks |
| 14:40.38 | jme | yep |
| 14:41.06 | nevcairiel | altho the t6 offsets suck for me .. well some anyway |
| 14:41.12 | nevcairiel | boots are crap |
| 14:41.13 | Beladona | they said there would be a set past bt but before the expansion. They didn't say it would be tier though, and they even hinted that it probably wouldn't be |
| 14:41.25 | Beladona | so I am betting something like a dungeon set 4 |
| 14:41.31 | jme | blues! |
| 14:41.56 | jme | hmm |
| 14:42.04 | jme | or tier 6.5? |
| 14:42.10 | Beladona | but then they also said they are adding more badge rewards (and better quality) so maybe thats where it will go |
| 14:42.28 | nevcairiel | New 25 man raid dungeon |
| 14:42.28 | nevcairiel | A 25 man dungeon is scheduled for release after Zul'aman (and before the expansion). Loots will be better than tier 6 and it will have 6 bosses. |
| 14:42.30 | jme | hopefully.. there is nothing i want from badge rewards, other than the trinket |
| 14:42.32 | nevcairiel | that was official |
| 14:42.49 | jme | ah |
| 14:43.00 | nevcairiel | maybe 6.5 or something |
| 14:43.16 | nevcairiel | its just a naming sheme anyway =P |
| 14:43.58 | jme | i think having ZA in the ghostlands will populate silvermoon |
| 14:44.04 | Beladona | its the naming scheme Blizz uses |
| 14:44.16 | Beladona | before they started using them we had our own |
| 14:44.23 | zenzelezz | I assume you mean the city Silvermoon? |
| 14:44.28 | jme | yes |
| 14:44.32 | zenzelezz | EU-Silvermoon is already way crowded on alliance side |
| 14:44.34 | nevcairiel | you wont see me there |
| 14:44.38 | nevcairiel | lol zenz |
| 14:44.38 | Beladona | like the upgrades to t1 were originally called t 1.5, but Blizz ended up calling them Dungeon Set 1 or something |
| 14:44.40 | jme | nobody hangs out there, ever |
| 14:44.47 | jme | zenzelezz: the city :P |
| 14:44.59 | zenzelezz | Beladona: upgrades to T1? |
| 14:45.04 | Beladona | yeah |
| 14:45.07 | nevcairiel | T0 i guess |
| 14:45.10 | Beladona | err |
| 14:45.11 | nevcairiel | with T0.5 |
| 14:45.13 | Beladona | T0 my bad |
| 14:45.15 | zenzelezz | aha |
| 14:45.28 | Beladona | we called them t 0.5 but blizz called them dungeon set 1 |
| 14:45.36 | nevcairiel | apart from T0, no one called the dungeon sets T anymore |
| 14:45.45 | nevcairiel | like the blue tbc dungeon sets |
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| 14:46.13 | Beladona | I dont even remember what dungeon set 2 was |
| 14:46.26 | nevcairiel | wasnt T0 dungeon 1, and 0.5 dungeon 2? |
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| 14:46.46 | zenzelezz | 0.5 was upgraded T/D0, yes |
| 14:46.57 | zenzelezz | but remember AQ? "T2.5" |
| 14:47.04 | nevcairiel | yea |
| 14:47.18 | nevcairiel | wasnt a real full set back then .. so it only was a half..^^ |
| 14:47.46 | nevcairiel | plus it sucked for alot of classes |
| 14:47.50 | nevcairiel | druid healer set ftl |
| 14:48.13 | Beladona | ahh ok yes |
| 14:48.19 | Beladona | according to Blizz there was no T0 |
| 14:48.24 | Beladona | it was DS1 |
| 14:48.31 | Beladona | and 0.5 was DS2 |
| 14:48.32 | nevcairiel | Yeah its Dungeon 1-3, Raid 1-6 etc |
| 14:48.47 | nevcairiel | Oh, its even called Tier 1-6 :) |
| 14:48.52 | Beladona | aye |
| 14:49.23 | nevcairiel | hm you cannot show T2.5 there |
| 14:49.24 | Beladona | and the ZG and AQ armors were their own thing |
| 14:49.30 | Beladona | no Tier or DS or anything |
| 14:50.13 | nevcairiel | the druid arena set is weird .. armor page shows it being a kilt, but ingame its pants |
| 14:50.19 | nevcairiel | (season2) |
| 14:50.24 | Beladona | maybe graphic changed |
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| 14:50.41 | jme | aw come on |
| 14:50.48 | jme | i upgraded my installed ports yesterday and php broke |
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| 15:04.54 | jme | http://i9.tinypic.com/63tu69j |
| 15:04.57 | jme | looks like blizz forgets to finish their maps :) |
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| 15:09.58 | jme | http://i19.tinypic.com/4z1gfns however is a cool aerial shot of loch modan, imo |
| 15:12.05 | Wobin_ | I've realised just how pretty WoW is now |
| 15:12.19 | Wobin_ | Now that I have a graphics card in a desktop and not a laptop |
| 15:12.24 | jme | lol |
| 15:12.40 | Wobin_ | I'm like constantly going "Wooo, shiny" |
| 15:12.45 | Wobin_ | and "omg... GRASS!" |
| 15:12.51 | cog|work | heh |
| 15:13.18 | zenzelezz | I had the same thing when I bought a new LCD |
| 15:13.30 | cog|work | I'm willing to suffer through spurts of < 18 FPS in order to see all the pretty |
| 15:13.39 | zenzelezz | I didn't notice poor quality on my old one... until I got the new one |
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| 15:14.31 | cog|work | jme: re: finishing the maps, this is why we won't see flying mounts in Azeroth |
| 15:14.41 | jme | cog|work: good point |
| 15:15.25 | jme | that area isn't really supposed to be seen anyway |
| 15:15.36 | jme | but is quite easy to get to from the hill next to the fork in the road at the south gate pass |
| 15:16.20 | cog|work | I've been up to the IF Airport a few times |
| 15:16.55 | zenzelezz | I've always wondered why you can't normally get there |
| 15:17.06 | jme | yeah.. it's like they forgot to add the invisible walls on that mountain |
| 15:17.16 | cog|work | You know the tunnel to the deepwall tram? |
| 15:17.31 | cog|work | if it weren't for the instance portal, it would go out to the airport |
| 15:17.35 | jme | i think so.. it's been ages since i've played alliance |
| 15:17.41 | cog|work | s/wall/run/ |
| 15:17.57 | Wobin_ | hehe, that's cool |
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| 15:18.22 | Wobin_ | "Lets just splice this tramway in front of the entrance to the airport..." |
| 15:18.31 | cog|work | I think the airport was a scrapped plan for travel |
| 15:18.52 | cog|work | ever notice that the tram goes east-west but SW-IF is north-south? |
| 15:19.00 | cog|work | and it goes under water.... |
| 15:19.18 | Wobin_ | I attributed it to gnomish 'ingenuity' in space time adjustments |
| 15:19.21 | cladhaire | :P |
| 15:19.22 | cog|work | Some people think it was originally meant to join IF and Darnassus or something |
| 15:19.40 | Wobin_ | That would be a very long trup |
| 15:19.41 | Wobin_ | trip |
| 15:20.19 | Legorol | since it's in an instance, it doesn't matter |
| 15:20.27 | Legorol | the SW-IF distance is also longer than the tram |
| 15:20.37 | Wobin_ | well, yeah |
| 15:20.50 | Wobin_ | I'd prefer if it wasn't instanced, tbh |
| 15:20.52 | lolinternet | spoilers |
| 15:21.01 | lolinternet | karazhan inside is bigger than karazhan outside |
| 15:21.03 | Wobin_ | The ship sinks |
| 15:21.06 | lolinternet | and no, it's not a TARDIS |
| 15:21.11 | jme | lolinternet: NOWAI |
| 15:21.16 | zenzelezz | like the Dark Portal? |
| 15:21.20 | Arrowmaster | tempest keep is like that too |
| 15:21.23 | zenzelezz | it's tiny in Azeroth, huge in Outland |
| 15:21.27 | Wobin_ | I bet it so is a TARDIS |
| 15:21.51 | Wobin_ | A TARDIS with a working chameleon chip |
| 15:22.15 | Arrowmaster | but those are never fun |
| 15:22.22 | End | that's from Doctor Who? |
| 15:22.31 | Wobin_ | yeah |
| 15:22.53 | Wobin_ | Time And Relative Dimensions In Space |
| 15:22.55 | Wobin_ | I believe |
| 15:22.57 | Wobin_ | ~tardis |
| 15:22.58 | purl | methinks tardis is Dr Who's time machine/spaceship, which, due to an accident looks like a UK telephone box Time And Relative Dimensions In Space (Doctor Who TV series) |
| 15:23.03 | Wobin_ | \o/ |
| 15:23.34 | Arrowmaster | i cant remember, did the original series ever have a tardis with a working chameleon chip? |
| 15:23.45 | Wobin_ | The Master's TARDIS had one |
| 15:24.06 | Wobin_ | It wasn't just due to low budget special effects =) |
| 15:24.08 | jme | http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v185/ttress/Failboat.jpg |
| 15:24.09 | jme | hahaha |
| 15:24.25 | Wobin_ | "toot toot" |
| 15:24.40 | zenzelezz | I have a similar picture, let me see if I can find it... |
| 15:24.44 | jme | my GM just posted that on the forums |
| 15:25.09 | deltron | heh |
| 15:25.17 | deltron | macrochan :) |
| 15:25.21 | Kaso | Purl is totally wrong about tardis |
| 15:25.29 | jme | deltron: oh |
| 15:25.30 | zenzelezz | http://www.hovlandsdal.com:7080/~zenzelezz/failure.jpg |
| 15:25.46 | deltron | oh macrochan probably NWS |
| 15:25.53 | jme | zenzelezz: hehe |
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| 15:26.02 | deltron | oh man |
| 15:26.04 | Kaso | purl, tardis is Dr Who's time machine/spaceship, which, due to an accident looks like a UK police telephone box, TARDIS stands for "Time And Relative Dimensions In Space (Doctor Who TV series)" |
| 15:26.04 | purl | ...but tardis is already something else... |
| 15:26.08 | jme | zenzelezz: http://icanhascheezburger.files.wordpress.com/2007/02/fail.jpg |
| 15:26.15 | Kaso | purl, no tardis is Dr Who's time machine/spaceship, which, due to an accident looks like a UK police telephone box, TARDIS stands for "Time And Relative Dimensions In Space (Doctor Who TV series)" |
| 15:26.15 | purl | Kaso: okay |
| 15:26.15 | deltron | that would have sucked to be in that car |
| 15:26.20 | zenzelezz | haha |
| 15:26.21 | Wobin_ | True that |
| 15:26.32 | Wobin_ | It's not bright red =) |
| 15:37.10 | jme | zenzelezz: http://icanhascheezburger.com/ |
| 15:38.10 | N00bZXI | Question: What would I use to get a secure actionbutton's current spell? |
| 15:39.16 | cog|work | SecureButton_GetModifiedAttribute |
| 15:39.48 | cog|work | spell = SecureButton_GetModifiedAttribute(frame, "spell") |
| 15:40.38 | Kaso | jme, http://icanhascheezburger.com/2007/08/09/i-licked-a-funny-stamp/ is awesome |
| 15:40.43 | jme | yeah |
| 15:40.51 | N00bZXI | cog|work: Thanks |
| 15:42.15 | cog|work | i have a cat that looks like http://icanhascheezburger.com/2007/08/08/nap-attack/ |
| 15:43.16 | mikma | nap attack! |
| 15:47.23 | zenzelezz | http://www.hovlandsdal.com:7080/~zenzelezz/modems.jpg <-- my cat |
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| 15:49.25 | amro | zomg is that a laser cat? |
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| 15:49.42 | N00bZXI | cog|work: SecureButton_GetModifiedAttribute seems to always return nil |
| 15:49.54 | Wobin_ | hm, anyone know a site with information on being a SV hunter? |
| 15:50.28 | N00bZXI | or I'm doing something wrong: (self is the cooldown frame) SecureButton_GetModifiedAttribute(self:GetParent(),"spell") |
| 15:51.09 | cog|work | what are the attributes on the parent? |
| 15:52.50 | N00bZXI | I'm not sure. I'd like to get current spell regardless of button's attributes though |
| 15:53.12 | cog|work | well the button has to have attributes for there to be a current spell... |
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| 15:53.44 | cog|work | (i'm talking :SetAttribute attributes, not name=, inherits=, etc...) |
| 15:54.22 | N00bZXI | I am pretty sure it does since I can click on the button and cast something |
| 15:54.40 | cog|work | are you sure it's a spell and not an action? |
| 15:54.57 | cog|work | and does it use a state header? |
| 15:56.18 | N00bZXI | I'm not sure. |
| 15:57.03 | N00bZXI | Infact it probably isn't a spell since another button seems to be returning the spell |
| 15:57.56 | cog|work | i take it you're not working with your own addon? :P |
| 15:58.16 | N00bZXI | No, I'm trying to make mine universal (hooking CooldownFrame_SetTimer) |
| 15:59.41 | cog|work | There's no way to guarantee that the cooldown will be a direct child of the secure button, for one thing... |
| 16:00.25 | cog|work | but assuming it is, there are numerous ways a button can define its action... |
| 16:00.37 | N00bZXI | eh, looks like this isn't going to be as simple as I thought :\ |
| 16:01.13 | cog|work | if it's an ActionBarButtonTemplate you can use ActionButton_GetPagedID(frame) |
| 16:01.34 | cog|work | which will get the action slot based on the ID or secure attributes, whichever is defined |
| 16:01.57 | cog|work | Otherwise, you'll have to differentiate between spells, macros, pet actions, items, etc. |
| 16:02.14 | cog|work | and if the button uses state headers, that adds even more complication... |
| 16:05.16 | N00bZXI | looks like it'd probably be easier to do the same thing by instead parsing the spellbook and watching for spells being cast |
| 16:05.51 | cog|work | depends on what you're trying to do... |
| 16:06.17 | N00bZXI | Trying to watch for when a spell's cooldown is complete |
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| 16:07.51 | N00bZXI | or I could just create an actionbar and the user could place the spells they want the addon to use onto it. More user friendly, but extra frames being created.. |
| 16:09.15 | cog|work | Do they configure the spells to keep track of by name? |
| 16:09.28 | N00bZXI | I was thinking of min duration/max duration/exceptions |
| 16:10.40 | N00bZXI | at first |
| 16:10.47 | N00bZXI | Now I'm unsure what I should do |
| 16:11.56 | N|Tivoli | SPELL_UPDATE_COOLDOWN if you are just tracking spells won't work? |
| 16:12.49 | N00bZXI | I'd like to track both spells and items |
| 16:14.47 | N00bZXI | I'll see if I can track spells with that though |
| 16:16.32 | N|Tivoli | for items maybe watching the slots for a cooldown? |
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| 16:19.51 | N00bZXI | SPELL_UPDATE_COOLDOWN doesn't tell me the name of the spell or the duration though (just created a frame and registered it) |
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| 16:22.27 | N00bZXI | which basically comes back to the first problem |
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| 16:30.35 | N00bZXI | Alternatively how would I get the spell's cooldown if I had the spell name |
| 16:31.04 | [Ammo] | parse the spellbook, store id, check the cooldown on the id |
| 16:31.14 | [Ammo] | cache those id's don't check every time |
| 16:32.14 | N00bZXI | ya, no need to parse the spellbook every time I need to check something from it |
| 16:32.31 | N00bZXI | Thanks! |
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| 16:43.00 | N00bZXI | Is there a way I can get the spell cooldown if the spell isn't on cooldown? |
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| 16:44.50 | |FF|Im2good4u | N00bZXI the tooltip ? |
| 16:46.35 | cog|work | I can has WoW? http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=945364750 |
| 16:46.58 | N00bZXI | Didn't think of that, thanks! |
| 16:52.12 | art3mis | why werent any of those funny? |
| 16:53.03 | cog|work | General forum imo |
| 16:53.31 | art3mis | oh yeah fergot about that rule ;) |
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| 17:43.32 | End | moo |
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| 17:50.14 | Lunessa | Working for me cog|work |
| 17:50.30 | Lunessa | http://cache.kotaku.com/gaming/wow_uh_wow-thumb.jpg |
| 17:50.31 | cog|work | yeah, 26 minutes later :P |
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| 17:51.58 | deltron | hawt |
| 17:53.44 | Lunessa | Life is good when pretty women will drfess up in geeky costumes. :) |
| 17:54.34 | cog|work | Lunessa: you should've been at blizzcon :P |
| 17:54.48 | Lunessa | I know, I know, I know. |
| 17:55.49 | Lunessa | Travel to California: $500, Hotel for 4 days, $500, Blizzcon ticket: $100 - Hot girls in geeky costumes - PRICELESS |
| 17:58.02 | cog|work | http://youtube.com/watch?v=kyWQlqZgrpw |
| 17:58.41 | Lunessa | Guess what she does for a living. |
| 18:02.11 | Thunder_Child | she is an accountant |
| 18:02.17 | N00bZXI | I can't seem to figure out why this won't add spells with cooldowns to a table: http://pastey.net/72032 |
| 18:02.29 | N00bZXI | fyi cmin is 1.5 and cmax is 600 |
| 18:03.40 | Lunessa | " Heh... Depending on how my workday goes, you may see my name dominating the "Last Post" column of this forum ;)" |
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| 18:09.20 | End | N00bZXI: what's wrong with GetSpellCooldown()? |
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| 18:10.19 | End | or are you not trying to find the current cooldown and just the cooldown in general? |
| 18:11.44 | N00bZXI | Cooldown in general |
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| 18:12.16 | End | hrm, well, you're going to confuse units...seconds versus minutes |
| 18:12.33 | End | (I think) |
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| 18:13.12 | End | I'm pretty sure it says 30 minute cooldown or 1 minute or 10 seconds |
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| 18:13.41 | N00bZXI | Yep.. |
| 18:14.00 | N00bZXI | Well I'll have to figure out how to make sense of the text it finds |
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| 18:16.08 | Cidan | There |
| 18:16.13 | Cidan | new windowing and theme system done |
| 18:16.19 | Cidan | well, for the most part. |
| 18:17.58 | Cidan | hmm |
| 18:26.52 | |FF|Im2good4u | guys or girls is it posable to cast 2 instant cast spell in 1 marco ? |
| 18:27.17 | [dRaCo] | if they both trigger the gcd, no |
| 18:27.21 | [dRaCo] | if not, it is. |
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| 18:30.55 | |FF|Im2good4u | ah dahm they do |
| 18:31.12 | |FF|Im2good4u | i should make an addon that allows macro's whit a wait timer :P |
| 18:35.19 | Cidan | I'm not sure you can |
| 18:38.29 | cog|work | you can't |
| 18:38.43 | cog|work | WoW won't play itself for you :P |
| 18:39.37 | Cidan | well, not anymore |
| 18:39.38 | Cidan | :P |
| 18:39.47 | Cidan | Ahh, the pre 2.0 days |
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| 18:48.18 | ScytheBlade1 | ... voice chat active on the PTR |
| 18:48.23 | Cidan | oh ho? |
| 18:48.28 | Cidan | Well then |
| 18:48.32 | Cidan | LET'S HAVE SOME FUN! |
| 18:48.42 | ScytheBlade1 | It is indeed active |
| 18:48.46 | N00bZXI | new ptr sound system FTL |
| 18:48.49 | N00bZXI | I get no sound at all on PTR |
| 18:48.54 | ScytheBlade1 | The social pane now has a "Chat" tab to it |
| 18:49.02 | ScytheBlade1 | Where you can manage the channels that you're in/talking to |
| 18:49.58 | ScytheBlade1 | I'm on the PvE realm now, and I believe I can /ginvite |
| 18:50.00 | Cidan | oh woah |
| 18:50.02 | ScytheBlade1 | For anyone who is interested |
| 18:50.05 | N00bZXI | I'm on PvP atm |
| 18:50.09 | ScytheBlade1 | Alliance side, that is |
| 18:50.15 | N00bZXI | horde-side |
| 18:50.20 | Cidan | Is chat per-guild, per-group, or...? |
| 18:50.27 | ScytheBlade1 | Per group and custom channel |
| 18:50.31 | ScytheBlade1 | No guild chat atm |
| 18:50.39 | N00bZXI | basically when you click on a tab |
| 18:50.42 | N00bZXI | it shows /chatwho |
| 18:50.44 | Cidan | oh that's neat, custom channel. |
| 18:50.45 | N00bZXI | and who has what |
| 18:50.47 | ScytheBlade1 | Yup |
| 18:50.56 | ScytheBlade1 | /join devnull on the PvE PTR |
| 18:51.00 | Cidan | How's the quality? Obviously not Vent |
| 18:51.04 | N00bZXI | basically everything you could do with slash commands you can now do a GUI |
| 18:51.04 | ScytheBlade1 | Dunno |
| 18:51.08 | ScytheBlade1 | Don't have anyone to test it with ;) |
| 18:51.15 | Cidan | Doh, let me get the client |
| 18:54.01 | ScytheBlade1 | Ha |
| 18:54.13 | ScytheBlade1 | [1. devnull] Channel voice enabled by Sboo. |
| 18:54.25 | zenzelezz | the channel has a voice!? That's spooky |
| 18:54.33 | ScytheBlade1 | Channels + groups do |
| 18:54.37 | ScytheBlade1 | No 'public' channels though |
| 18:54.56 | Cidan | with good reason |
| 18:55.01 | zenzelezz | yeah, I was trying to make an AI-like reference... not voice chat channels, but channels having a voice |
| 18:55.07 | ScytheBlade1 | Oh lol |
| 18:55.10 | ScytheBlade1 | I missed that |
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| 18:57.26 | ScytheBlade1 | heh @ parental controls |
| 18:57.31 | Cidan | You're on PvE? |
| 18:57.33 | ScytheBlade1 | There are three options: disabled, speak only, full |
| 18:57.34 | ScytheBlade1 | Yes |
| 18:57.42 | ScytheBlade1 | /w Sboo once you're in |
| 18:58.08 | Cide | listen only, you mean? |
| 18:58.19 | ScytheBlade1 | Yes, listen only |
| 19:03.15 | Cidan | So, I was playing Tabula Rasa |
| 19:03.16 | Cidan | man |
| 19:03.19 | Cidan | ier... |
| 19:03.21 | Cidan | wait |
| 19:03.22 | Cidan | NDA, :/ |
| 19:03.29 | Arrowmaster | bitch! |
| 19:03.31 | Cidan | ah hell, well, it's amazing, :P |
| 19:03.34 | Cidan | It really is |
| 19:03.38 | Arrowmaster | i want in the beta! |
| 19:03.45 | Cidan | I mean, I won't give details I guess |
| 19:03.49 | Cidan | but it's stupid amounts of fun. |
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| 19:04.10 | Cidan | It's really the most fun I think I've had playing a game in a while. |
| 19:06.28 | ScytheBlade1 | Kaydeethree, I need ginvite powers! |
| 19:06.34 | Tuller | I cannot see how they think that having a general voicechat channel is a good idea :) |
| 19:07.03 | zenzelezz | at least you can't link items through voice |
| 19:07.14 | zenzelezz | except "OMG LEGENDARY" |
| 19:07.26 | Tuller | though I kindof want to build a website around "stupid things people say in wow" |
| 19:08.29 | Saint-N | dirty boy dirty dirty dirty boy |
| 19:08.48 | cladhaire | anyone wanna test voice chat? |
| 19:09.01 | Saint-N | WoW. They Said That?! |
| 19:09.25 | ScytheBlade1 | cladhaire, /join devnull on the PvE |
| 19:09.29 | cladhaire | k |
| 19:10.47 | Cidan | well |
| 19:10.48 | Cidan | this fails. |
| 19:11.11 | cladhaire | ScytheBlade1: there now :P |
| 19:12.03 | ScytheBlade1 | cladhaire, that you are |
| 19:12.05 | N00bZXI | Isn't general voicechat-disabled? |
| 19:12.10 | ScytheBlade1 | Not anymore |
| 19:12.20 | N00bZXI | wow... |
| 19:12.24 | Saint-N | guess they wanted a rushed voice test |
| 19:12.37 | N00bZXI | I really hope it's disabled on live |
| 19:17.21 | Cide | <- swedeheart fyi |
| 19:17.36 | ScytheBlade1 | <-- Sboo |
| 19:17.41 | deltron | loool |
| 19:20.21 | Cidan | when |
| 19:20.23 | Cidan | THat sucked. |
| 19:20.32 | Cide | push to talk works when tabbed out it appears |
| 19:20.46 | cladhaire | yeah, seems to |
| 19:20.50 | cladhaire | interesting :P |
| 19:20.56 | Cide | not sure if it's related to windowed mode or not |
| 19:21.08 | Cidan | Question: Who else has no sound at all on the new sound system? |
| 19:21.16 | N00bZXI | Me. |
| 19:21.23 | Cidan | What OS do you run? |
| 19:21.26 | N00bZXI | Vista x64 |
| 19:21.32 | Cidan | I run Vista x32 |
| 19:21.33 | Cide | sound doesn't play when the game is not the focused window, however |
| 19:21.43 | cog|work | that's an option |
| 19:21.46 | Cidan | I had no sound at all, period. |
| 19:21.55 | Cidan | Anyone else run Vista and HAVE sound? |
| 19:22.02 | Cide | oh, you're right cog|work |
| 19:22.07 | N00bZXI | Basically I get this in sesound.log: 8/10 19:17:12.949 ######## FATAL ERROR INITIALIZING. ALL GAME SOUND DISABLED. |
| 19:22.16 | Cide | doesn't seem to be an option for voice-only though :/ |
| 19:22.20 | Cidan | hmph |
| 19:22.26 | Cidan | likely a Vista thing |
| 19:23.36 | cog|work | Cidan: if you're on tonight i'll let you know |
| 19:23.41 | cog|work | i've got 64-bit vista at home |
| 19:23.46 | Arrowmaster | i got booted from ptr |
| 19:23.57 | Arrowmaster | <- tokrim |
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| 19:24.42 | cog|work | hey Beladona |
| 19:24.56 | Beladona | hey |
| 19:25.03 | cog|work | voice chat's up on the ptr :) |
| 19:25.09 | Beladona | I saw |
| 19:25.16 | Thunder_Child | didnt work for me though |
| 19:25.19 | Beladona | working on compares atm |
| 19:28.42 | Cide | so, you can only talk and listen on one channel at a time |
| 19:29.50 | N00bZXI | Alright, mod seems to be working fine for spells! Thanks again to those who answered questions I asked! http://pastey.net/72036 |
| 19:31.20 | Cidan | I'd like to make a statement. |
| 19:31.26 | Cidan | Electric razors suck wang. |
| 19:31.28 | Arrowmaster | rofl paladin charges have pink square sprites for eyes |
| 19:31.28 | Cidan | That is all. |
| 19:32.24 | deltron | heh I want an electric razor |
| 19:33.25 | Cidan | I got a really nice one, Braun, over 100 dollars |
| 19:33.30 | Cidan | It's... horrible |
| 19:33.34 | Cidan | Worst buy ever. |
| 19:33.50 | Antiarc|Work | Electric razors for the lose. |
| 19:33.52 | deltron | heh |
| 19:34.00 | Antiarc|Work | Hot water + mach3 = very yes |
| 19:34.02 | Cidan | not only does it take longer to shave, I get razor burn like hell. |
| 19:34.10 | Antiarc|Work | And it's nowhere near as good. |
| 19:34.11 | Cidan | Right, I'm going back to my Mach3 |
| 19:34.14 | deltron | my bro has one of the $175 braun's |
| 19:34.27 | deltron | do they make the oldschool mach3's anymore? |
| 19:34.30 | deltron | those were the best |
| 19:34.37 | Cidan | They make the blades |
| 19:34.40 | Cidan | I still buy them |
| 19:35.03 | Cidan | as for the arm, I have no idea, I still have mine from like, 6 years ago? |
| 19:36.15 | Thunder_Child | is there a function to return the sex of a char? |
| 19:36.33 | Saint-N | i wish that behind the head headphones/mics would come with the ability to detach and connect the mic |
| 19:36.52 | Saint-N | that way it can be both wander about music headphones AND a sit down gaming thing |
| 19:37.09 | ScytheBlade1 | Thunder_Child, UnitSex() |
| 19:37.10 | Saint-N | cidan: get that self cleaning electric one ;P |
| 19:37.14 | N00bZXI | Thunder_Child UnitSex(unit) |
| 19:37.14 | Saint-N | it's awesome |
| 19:37.25 | Cidan | I so |
| 19:37.26 | Cidan | so so |
| 19:37.29 | Cidan | did not read that right. |
| 19:37.39 | Cidan | "Is there a function to return the sex of a chair?" |
| 19:37.43 | Cidan | :/ |
| 19:37.49 | Saint-N | heh depends on the chair |
| 19:37.54 | Cidan | hah. |
| 19:37.58 | Saint-N | upside down its definately male ;P |
| 19:38.11 | Thunder_Child | thanks |
| 19:38.32 | Cidan | Hmm, that would depend on the perspective, :P |
| 19:38.39 | N00bZXI | 1 ==unknown 2==male 3==female |
| 19:38.41 | Saint-N | i think i need to order a bluetooth headset for my phone and a usb headset for my computer |
| 19:38.46 | End | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:38.48 | End | oops |
| 19:38.51 | End | pasted on accident |
| 19:39.10 | Saint-N | cidan: no way, 4 hard erect phallic shaped objects == male ;P |
| 19:39.18 | Saint-N | that particular chair is just into orgies ;P |
| 19:39.32 | Cidan | psh |
| 19:39.47 | Saint-N | so whats a good bluetooth phone earpiece? |
| 19:39.49 | Cidan | Woman with all for limbs flailing in the air == female |
| 19:39.50 | Cidan | :P |
| 19:39.59 | Saint-N | i want one thts tiny, hooks the ear and has a mini boom |
| 19:40.09 | Saint-N | cidan: hahahaha |
| 19:40.48 | Saint-N | "be an upside down chair honey" *fwump* *puts legs and arms in the air* "good girl |
| 19:41.08 | TS|Skrom | When all you see is comments on what a female is and then "10 i want one thts tiny, hooks the ear and has a mini boom01" you really start to wonder |
| 19:41.14 | Cidan | lol |
| 19:41.23 | Saint-N | hah pervs all of ya! |
| 19:41.34 | Saint-N | that should have read a mini "boom" |
| 19:41.49 | TS|Skrom | my mind translated it "mini boom booms" |
| 19:41.50 | Saint-N | the kind that causes the legs to crush heh |
| 19:42.06 | Saint-N | when shes hooked on the ears ;P |
| 19:42.32 | Cidan | christ, :P |
| 19:42.45 | Saint-N | yes my child? |
| 19:43.24 | Saint-N | welp im off time to get a new tongue bar |
| 19:43.46 | Saint-N | accidently bit down on mine the other day and shattered the plastic, so when i play with it, it scrapes the roof of my mouth |
| 19:45.14 | Cidan | :( |
| 19:49.29 | Cidan | I think the real question we all need to ask is |
| 19:49.37 | Cidan | Do your chain hang low? |
| 19:52.15 | N00bZXI | nice thing about ptr is I get +15fps there |
| 19:52.23 | N00bZXI | probably because of no sound though |
| 19:54.07 | Cidan | hah |
| 19:54.14 | Cidan | I am on my crappy dev laptop |
| 19:54.21 | Cidan | I get horrible FPS in everything |
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| 20:00.48 | N00bZXI | Eh I used to get ~20fps with stuttering every 3 seconds |
| 20:01.11 | N00bZXI | On a computer that didn't even meet WoW recommended specs |
| 20:04.03 | N00bZXI | ~10* |
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| 20:11.08 | Beladona | beack in a bit |
| 20:12.13 | ScytheBlade1 | Hmm |
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| 20:31.21 | zenzelezz | "Daze: Defense skill will no longer reduce the chance players have to receive the Daze effect when attacked from behind by enemies" -- no more easy-mode Skettis for my tank I guess |
| 20:32.05 | haste | just fly up, and they can't attack you |
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| 20:36.33 | zenzelezz | I know, but it's easier to just fly along on your business and let them DoT you |
| 20:38.18 | Mike-N-Go | May someone tell me how a Palladin's Illumination works? |
| 20:39.11 | Mike-N-Go | For Skettis, I find it best to hold q or e and space to escape the birds. |
| 20:40.02 | zenzelezz | with 514 defense and 13114 hp I've not had to worry about getting dazed or hit |
| 20:40.03 | zenzelezz | =) |
| 20:42.26 | foxlit | Druid easymode |
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| 20:42.47 | foxlit | Since those birds can't seem to daze you out of flight form |
| 20:44.12 | Cidan | Illumination will restore 50% of the mana cost of your next healing spell |
| 20:44.20 | Cidan | Which is bull, it should have stayed 100% |
| 20:44.37 | foxlit | Isn't it 60%? |
| 20:44.43 | JoshBorke | and previous healing spell? |
| 20:45.31 | Cidan | er, I stopped playing when it went to 50% on PTR |
| 20:45.37 | Cidan | like, 4 months ago? |
| 20:45.42 | Cidan | I'm now back to code, :P |
| 20:45.50 | Cidan | I just reactivated like, last night. |
| 20:47.26 | Cidan | And sorry, it is 60%, :P |
| 20:49.26 | Cidan | So. |
| 20:49.31 | Cidan | What's everyone doing for dinner? |
| 20:49.45 | Lunessa | ... I'm thinking pasta. |
| 20:50.01 | cog|work | Either Fish & Chips or Tri tip |
| 20:50.05 | JoshBorke | my fiancee |
| 20:50.27 | cog|work | I used to have a fiancee |
| 20:50.34 | Cidan | annnddd JoseBorke wins. |
| 20:50.50 | Cidan | Josh, sigh, christ I need sleep. |
| 20:51.04 | Antiarc|Work | I'm probably going to end up with chili tonight |
| 20:51.09 | N00bZXI | I had dinner about 4 hours ago |
| 20:51.15 | Antiarc|Work | Since my wife is going to be out with her friends |
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| 21:30.45 | cog|work | snthoe;snthaoeusthaoeusrcha,.uusnth |
| 21:30.48 | cog|work | i hate cold callers |
| 21:31.26 | Shirik | ? |
| 21:32.29 | cog|work | "Can I speak to the person in charge of _____" "Do you mind if i ask what you're calling about" "[insert vague evasive response]" "Can you put us on your do not call list?" "I'm sorry. We don't have one. Can you please connect me with the person in charge of ______" |
| 21:33.11 | cog|work | Do we have business with you? "we're not trying to sell you anything" |
| 21:33.14 | cog|work | BULLSHIT! |
| 21:33.20 | cog|work | </rant> |
| 21:33.34 | Lunessa | cog|work: Not having a "Do Not Call" list is bad. Just tell them you've written down their number and are filing a complaint with the State Attourney General's office. |
| 21:35.05 | Lunessa | They get off the phone pretty damned quick. |
| 21:35.49 | foxlit | Hm, question |
| 21:36.00 | cog|work | answer |
| 21:36.14 | Cidan | meatbag? |
| 21:36.21 | foxlit | There seems to be some mention of changes to the chat interface in 2.2 |
| 21:36.25 | Lunessa | Intero-bang?! |
| 21:37.16 | Cidan | lol |
| 21:37.25 | cog|work | foxlit: that's not a question :P |
| 21:38.52 | foxlit | Fine, question, then. Can I see a summary of the related API changes somewhere? :) |
| 21:39.10 | foxlit | s/Cab/Where can/ |
| 21:39.10 | cog|work | all known api changes are in iriel's thread on the forums |
| 21:39.17 | cog|work | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=102909678&sid=1 |
| 21:39.29 | cog|work | Lua changes are on wdn.wowinterface.com |
| 21:39.29 | foxlit | And if it's not on there? |
| 21:39.49 | cog|work | s/Lua/FrameXML/ |
| 21:40.03 | Cidan | mmm, perl |
| 21:40.54 | foxlit | however, /me is also lazy |
| 21:40.59 | foxlit | Hence, /me is torn. |
| 21:41.45 | foxlit | The exact patch note: "Chat Channels- New Chat Channel controls and functionality are now available under the chat tab in the Social Window of the interface. The interface will now show the channels players are in or are available, depending on the area of the world they are in, along with new private channel controls." |
| 21:42.02 | foxlit | As far as I'm aware, there was no way of telling whether you could join certain zone-wide channels before |
| 21:42.08 | cog|work | that's just a UI addition |
| 21:42.12 | ScytheBlade1 | Indeed |
| 21:42.18 | ScytheBlade1 | It manages the current channes you are in |
| 21:42.23 | ScytheBlade1 | And provides voice chat funcationality |
| 21:42.29 | ScytheBlade1 | *functionality |
| 21:42.31 | foxlit | Read the last sentence |
| 21:42.48 | foxlit | "depending on the area of the world they are in" |
| 21:42.58 | foxlit | Though they could be lame and have a list of cities |
| 21:43.11 | ScytheBlade1 | No, it just lists "General" or "Trade" |
| 21:43.15 | ScytheBlade1 | It's on the PTR now. Try it out |
| 21:43.25 | foxlit | PTR seems to instant-disconnect me on login |
| 21:43.28 | ScytheBlade1 | Hmm |
| 21:43.40 | ScytheBlade1 | Lemme fire it up |
| 21:43.48 | |Jelly|_ | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=965746667&sid=1 <-- think he's serious? |
| 21:43.56 | foxlit | EU PvE anyway |
| 21:44.02 | Thrae | !tl |
| 21:44.04 | ThraeBot | http://tinyurl.com/2uqle9 (|Jelly|_'s link) |
| 21:44.25 | ScytheBlade1 | US PvE works fine |
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| 21:48.23 | mikma | |Jelly|_: how can he click the button if it's not there? ;D |
| 21:48.48 | |Jelly|_ | " After i dowload the add on, I click save, and after it is saved i click open to make sure it is there. Then when i log into the game it isnt there. I'm not sure what else I could do and by the way, how do you unzip folders again?" |
| 21:49.29 | Corrodias | sigh |
| 21:49.39 | |Jelly|_ | I died a little on the inside reading that. : / |
| 21:50.13 | mikma | |Jelly|_: it was the weaker part of you. now you are alittle stronger |
| 21:50.26 | |Jelly|_ | God I hope so. |
| 21:51.24 | zenzelezz | that's almost as bad as claiming the WinZip nag dialog was an addon asking for money |
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| 21:55.07 | Shadowed| | me > clad |
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| 22:02.19 | Shirik | !api GetNumPartyMembers |
| 22:02.23 | ThraeBot | Shirik: numberOfPartyMembers = GetNumPartyMembers(); -- http://www.wowwiki.com/API_GetNumPartyMembers |
| 22:02.28 | Shirik | .... |
| 22:02.36 | Shirik | I knew that part! |
| 22:02.50 | Thunder_Child | they why did you ask...geeze |
| 22:03.02 | Shirik | I wanted to know if it included the player -_- |
| 22:03.10 | cog|work | that's what the link's for |
| 22:03.12 | Thunder_Child | hence the link |
| 22:03.18 | Lunessa | I love days where we make major network changes. |
| 22:03.18 | cog|work | pwned |
| 22:03.19 | Shirik | it should read my mind, imo |
| 22:03.39 | Thunder_Child | i am sure Thrae will get right on that Shirik |
| 22:03.43 | Shirik | good |
| 22:03.58 | Thunder_Child | but we wouldnt want it poping up links for porn sites now would we |
| 22:04.04 | Thrae | I'm already on it |
| 22:04.09 | Thrae | ...What am I on? |
| 22:04.15 | Thrae | Besides a cocktail of drugs |
| 22:04.16 | cog|work | share plx |
| 22:04.18 | Thunder_Child | a mind reading bot |
| 22:04.39 | Thrae | Oh, my bot can already read people's minds |
| 22:04.54 | Thunder_Child | i guess Shirik's was just empty then |
| 22:05.35 | Thrae | Shirik: You could just look at the page it gives you |
| 22:05.44 | Shirik | ... |
| 22:05.54 | Shirik | I did :P |
| 22:06.08 | Thrae | Well then when you find out the information, add it to the Wiki |
| 22:06.48 | Shirik | the information is on the wiki >< |
| 22:07.00 | Shirik | the whole point was me not having to load the page over dialup :( |
| 22:07.04 | zenzelezz | it does not include yourself |
| 22:07.42 | cog|work | PEBKAISP |
| 22:09.14 | zenzelezz | "numberOfPartyMembers Integer - The number of party members - from 0 to 4 (excluding the player)." -- was that just added to that page then? |
| 22:10.05 | Thunder_Child | why the hell does the lvl 70 mage on the ptr start with a scarab of the infinite cycle?? |
| 22:10.08 | zenzelezz | argh, seven hours in Kara... getting too tired |
| 22:11.01 | foxlit | curiously, it's different for the raid |
| 22:11.12 | foxlit | But then again, player isn't part of party1-4, but part of raid1-40 |
| 22:12.01 | Shirik | zenzelezz: No, it just didn't have that info |
| 22:12.22 | zenzelezz | yeah, I'm just reading things wrong |
| 22:12.32 | zenzelezz | stopped thinking some hours ago |
| 22:14.42 | foxlit | Anyone aware of any addons that visualize your DoTs on target as some sort of a timeline? |
| 22:16.35 | JoshBorke | no |
| 22:17.01 | Corrodias | doesn't Chronometer? |
| 22:17.10 | Corrodias | or... timeline, sorry |
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| 22:17.15 | Corrodias | i was thinking of a timer |
| 22:18.15 | JoshBorke | the easy part is the data, hard part is visualization |
| 22:18.20 | JoshBorke | how would you visualize it fox? |
| 22:23.44 | foxlit | If I had a plan, I'd be done already :) |
| 22:24.22 | foxlit | Thinking of having several tracks for various dots |
| 22:24.34 | foxlit | Then scroll textures across those tracks based on the time left |
| 22:25.22 | foxlit | Castbar could probably be implemented in a similar fashion |
| 22:26.52 | foxlit | perhaps some sort of log scale for time to help things a bit with space constraints; toss tick numbers onto it as well |
| 22:27.09 | foxlit | Needs thought, really |
| 22:35.03 | Mike-N-Go | Boo |
| 22:35.41 | Mike-N-Go | I think they removed the lack of the Forsaken's lower jaws in the starting screen =/ I can't seem to find it. |
| 22:37.04 | Mike-N-Go | Oh, the female does not have that option, the male, however, does. |
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| 22:45.06 | cog|work | wow... this is really hurting my brain... |
| 22:45.30 | cog|work | someone in my guild forum is using Slouken's forum avatar. Every time I see it i do a double-take... |
| 22:45.41 | End | lol |
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| 22:48.44 | ScytheBlade1 | lol |
| 22:48.47 | ScytheBlade1 | Smack him |
| 22:49.07 | End | but...that's like smacking slouken! |
| 22:49.16 | ScytheBlade1 | But it's not |
| 22:49.25 | End | just look! |
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| 22:54.06 | Corrodias | it irritates me a bit when people insult others for having "cookie-cutter builds", as if they think that a build must suck if it's popular |
| 22:54.50 | foxlit | Playing with a good build requires less skill than playing with 20/20/20 :) |
| 22:55.19 | Corrodias | a true master doesn't use any talents |
| 22:55.48 | foxlit | A true raider must debuff himself! |
| 22:56.17 | Wobin | I actually want to try a deep survival build for my hunter... |
| 22:57.09 | Wobin | anyone know of a good site that may outline any problems encountered with the build/tips/etc? |
| 22:57.42 | Corrodias | for me, being a good hunter crosses the line into being something that takes too much hard work to be as fun as the other classes |
| 22:58.31 | Wobin | I quite enjoy chain trapping =) |
| 22:59.08 | Wobin | it's challenging about placement, aggro control, timing, without being -too- complex |
| 22:59.22 | Wobin | and yet is very effective when executed properly |
| 22:59.41 | Corrodias | i didn't make opportunities for myself to learn |
| 22:59.55 | foxlit | Warlocks seem to beat the dps of everything and then some |
| 23:00.06 | foxlit | Hunters I can actually compete with |
| 23:00.39 | Wobin | yeah, well warlocks are op =) |
| 23:00.54 | Corrodias | one of our warlocks and our boomkin are our top dpsers in my guild |
| 23:01.10 | Corrodias | the rogues and myself are not terribly far behind, though |
| 23:01.14 | foxlit | Boomkins are downright awesome, but that requires a bit of support |
| 23:01.39 | foxlit | Whereas warlocks have an easy way to siphon mana from the raid |
| 23:01.53 | Corrodias | myself being a feral druid. we have no hunters that aren't MM and they never top the meter, although one does hover around fourth place |
| 23:02.10 | Wobin | BM hunters do a lot more damage than I ever expected |
| 23:02.18 | foxlit | Silly pets |
| 23:02.22 | Wobin | s'true |
| 23:02.26 | foxlit | Account for like 30-40% of their damage |
| 23:02.39 | Wobin | although I want to find a damage meter that I can look at and not go "hm, is -that- right?!" |
| 23:03.03 | Wobin | I often find myself doing what appears to be 35%-50% of a 5 man's damage |
| 23:03.09 | Wobin | with me + pet |
| 23:03.22 | foxlit | That's strange |
| 23:03.31 | foxlit | Though not impossible. |
| 23:03.35 | Corrodias | if i'm running a damage meter with my combat log showing all events and turned up to max range, i'm usually within 1% for all numbers to those posted by other people |
| 23:03.35 | Wobin | and I don't know if it's just the meter screwing with me by merging my pet data with mine and showing pet as well |
| 23:03.38 | Corrodias | without synchronization |
| 23:03.39 | foxlit | Tanks do little damage, healers do nothing |
| 23:03.59 | Corrodias | Wobin: recount does automatically add your pet's damage to yourself. recap does not. |
| 23:04.14 | foxlit | recap checks settings |
| 23:04.17 | Wobin | Corrodias: with Recount, I've specifically turned the 'pet merging' off |
| 23:04.25 | foxlit | Recap syncs are painful, though :( |
| 23:04.26 | Corrodias | well, there you go |
| 23:04.43 | Corrodias | ah. well, i don't synch. they're accurate enough for me without. |
| 23:04.49 | Wobin | foxlit: howso? |
| 23:05.05 | foxlit | A lot of garbage being generated during them |
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| 23:05.42 | foxlit | While normally my UI memory usage increases by about 10 KB/s, Recap syncs make that about 25 times more |
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| 23:05.54 | Wobin | My problem exists that most people merge the pet data, but the numbers don't come out the same |
| 23:06.02 | Wobin | when we do meter comparisons |
| 23:06.19 | foxlit | I don't think anything merges my treants with me, so it's all sad :( |
| 23:06.30 | Wobin | or it appears to ignore pet data |
| 23:06.56 | foxlit | Wonder if combat log changes will be able to determiine whose summoned mob it is that deals damage |
| 23:07.08 | Corrodias | recap should show treant damage, but it won't differentiate between yours and anyone else's, i suspect |
| 23:07.12 | foxlit | for things like snake trap / force of nature |
| 23:07.19 | Wobin | it doesn't say |
| 23:07.22 | Wobin | I don't believe |
| 23:07.25 | Wobin | or maybe it does |
| 23:07.38 | Wobin | I've never actually been in a position to check =) |
| 23:08.00 | foxlit | 2.4 stuff, not a lot of people have |
| 23:08.08 | Wobin | when the snake trap is out, it's often just to add more distraction to the mix, so I never focus on what damage it causes =) |
| 23:08.22 | Wobin | 2.4 stuff? |
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| 23:09.00 | foxlit | combat log API revision, significantly better information feedback through an already parsed events system |
| 23:09.14 | Wobin | oh yeah |
| 23:11.21 | Wobin | eee |
| 23:11.26 | Wobin | 826 unbuffed agility |
| 23:15.52 | Wobin | =\ |
| 23:16.03 | Wobin | Resourcefulness or Readiness? |
| 23:16.18 | Wobin | er |
| 23:16.25 | Wobin | Thrill of the Hunt or Readiness? |
| 23:16.34 | Wobin | mismouseovering ftl |
| 23:16.41 | Cide | thrill of the hunt I'd say, sadly |
| 23:18.39 | Wobin | granted, I'm not going to be raiding soon |
| 23:18.47 | Wobin | and more doing instances |
| 23:19.06 | Wobin | (cause we have -so- many hunters in our raiding conglomerate due to timezone) |
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| 23:28.02 | ScytheBlade1 | clad|dinner, heh, I just found the videos you posted. Kinda funny to hear my voice in the background at the end |
| 23:28.08 | Mr_Rabies2 | hrm |
| 23:28.46 | Mr_Rabies2 | is there anything like Vault that's being maintained? something that lets me double check and make sure i have all the spells on my bars? :o |
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| 23:29.26 | Mr_Rabies2 | sure, it's lazy as hell, but that's the name of the game for me :P |
| 23:29.46 | foxlit | UNIT_SPELLCAST changes are probably going to break something :/ |
| 23:37.32 | Kyahx | why? they're just *adding* information, not changing the basics |
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| 23:55.21 | Mr_Rabies2 | D" |
| 23:55.23 | Mr_Rabies2 | er D: |
| 23:55.31 | Mr_Rabies2 | has anyone installed the blizzard editing UI? |
| 23:55.54 | Mr_Rabies2 | i just did to muck around in it but it seems like the frame is unhidable and whatnot :/ |
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| 23:57.05 | cladhaire | ScytheBlade1: :P |
| 23:57.24 | Wobin | growl |
| 23:57.33 | Wobin | wtb more talent points |
| 23:57.45 | Wobin | There's so -much- I want to take in the survival tree |
| 23:57.50 | Wobin | but not gimp the 20 in MM |
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| 23:58.26 | Wobin | every survival build I've seen has at least 5/5 Mortal shots |
| 23:59.06 | Wobin | and an 8 second reduction on traps (with beastlord set bonus) is just shiny |
| 23:59.37 | Wobin | Master Tactician is very very nice |
