00:00.17 | dnmcgoy | and I've copied the exact same file to HelloWorld\Images |
00:00.26 | Shirik | not opened it in your editor and resaved it |
00:00.28 | Shirik | but copied it |
00:00.33 | dnmcgoy | copied |
00:01.01 | Shirik | that sounds completely illogical |
00:01.07 | dnmcgoy | I agree |
00:01.32 | dnmcgoy | your statement makes me think I've missed something trivial though |
00:01.45 | dnmcgoy | some small "semi-colon" type of problem |
00:06.04 | dnmcgoy | ugh.. the paste from emacs to that pastey client doesn't make the xml any easier to read either |
00:06.20 | Shirik | here's a suggestion |
00:06.22 | Shirik | stop using emacs :P |
00:07.01 | dnmcgoy | are you a vi or eclipse person? |
00:07.33 | Shirik | vi :P |
00:07.36 | Garoun|Loupana | Ok, hard question for you :P |
00:07.45 | Shirik | I used eclipse a long time ago and I wanted to shoot the professor that made me use it |
00:07.57 | Garoun|Loupana | I have no OT for the fleshbeasts pull, do you know of any CC that will work for them even if it's kiting? |
00:08.01 | dnmcgoy | its nice for refactoring |
00:08.20 | Shirik | true, but netbeans can do that too |
00:08.26 | Shirik | which I use for java |
00:08.36 | dnmcgoy | ah, can netbeans do say.. C++? |
00:08.45 | dnmcgoy | or is it strictly java? |
00:08.56 | Shirik | iirc it does have a C++ module though I don't have it |
00:08.59 | Shirik | it was written for java though |
00:09.06 | Shirik | I use MSVC |
00:09.12 | Shirik | well, visual studio |
00:09.14 | dnmcgoy | yeah |
00:09.25 | buu | Garoun|Loupana: Fear |
00:09.36 | buu | Garoun|Loupana: Hibernate |
00:09.50 | dnmcgoy | I'd use eclipse at work.. if our code would load onto it |
00:09.54 | foxlit | They're not beasts |
00:10.09 | Shirik | I hate the dev environment I use at work |
00:10.13 | dnmcgoy | unfortunately its over 5 million lines big.. so eclipse looks at that and throws up almost immediately |
00:10.31 | Garoun|Loupana | doe schain fear work on them? |
00:10.38 | Garoun|Loupana | I thought they were immune to like evcerything |
00:11.01 | dnmcgoy | what environment do you have at work? |
00:11.28 | |Jelly| | Is there a mod that tracks how many buffs each person casts? Cause I go througha LOT of damned candles and I'm really curious if I'm the only person buffing 90% of the time. lol |
00:11.47 | Shirik | it's called BSYIde and I hate it |
00:11.55 | Shirik | it seems proprietary |
00:11.55 | |Jelly| | Why? |
00:11.56 | foxlit | Why not just assign people to buff specific groups? |
00:11.59 | dnmcgoy | ewww |
00:12.11 | dnmcgoy | a propietary environment?! |
00:12.23 | Shirik | well, it /is/ designed to work with the exact chips that we're using |
00:12.38 | Shirik | but I've worked with far better in the past with just a null modem connection - AsmIDE in particular |
00:13.05 | buu | Garoun|Loupana: Well, no idea really, I was just guessing. I thought it worked. |
00:13.10 | dnmcgoy | ah.. so you do some embedded stuff? |
00:13.22 | Shirik | mhm |
00:13.30 | dnmcgoy | that makes more sense then |
00:13.47 | Garoun|Loupana | oh if it does i'd be happy, because I'd just warlock chain fear :) |
00:13.51 | Shirik | I'm still trying to convince them to switch, they're just lazy :P |
00:13.56 | dnmcgoy | I'm working on a linux build that is going on an arm chip, so sorta similar but I don't have to deal with propietary stuff |
00:14.12 | Shirik | They don't want to type commands like "md 2000" and instead just have a window with the memory dump there |
00:14.19 | Garoun|Loupana | I'm confident in bear tanking since I'm 1 of our 2 MTs, but I think 2 fleshbeasts may be a bit too much for one person to handle :P |
00:14.20 | Shirik | the problem is the chip has to run so slow when debugging |
00:14.32 | Shirik | every time you step one instruction, it reads the entire memory again to update the IDE |
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00:14.46 | Shirik | it's the stupidest thing I've ever seen |
00:14.49 | dnmcgoy | oh man |
00:14.51 | dnmcgoy | suck |
00:15.10 | Wobwork | what's that? |
00:15.26 | dnmcgoy | propietary ide's |
00:15.36 | Garoun|Loupana | hmm, according to wiki at this time, they are immune to all cc and snares :( |
00:15.42 | Garoun|Loupana | god tonight is going to hurt |
00:16.41 | dnmcgoy | so unless its confidential info.. what are the chips going in? |
00:17.02 | Shirik | pens, actually |
00:17.13 | dnmcgoy | pens? |
00:17.16 | Shirik | mhm |
00:17.23 | dnmcgoy | what do these pens do? |
00:17.42 | dnmcgoy | letter recognition? |
00:17.44 | Shirik | esentially draw without touching the paper |
00:18.06 | Shirik | my current project is part of a safety system |
00:18.11 | dnmcgoy | huh. that's actually interesting |
00:18.26 | Shirik | I unfortunately can't say too much :P |
00:18.30 | Shirik | otherwise I would be a bit more specific |
00:18.36 | dnmcgoy | yeah.. I know the feeling |
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00:19.06 | dnmcgoy | anything I can talk about isn't all that interesting |
00:21.09 | dnmcgoy | so out of curiousity.. if you've tried.. how many layers of frames can you have before Wow grinds to a halt? |
00:21.21 | Shirik | theoretically infinite |
00:21.38 | dnmcgoy | really? it handles a whole lot of frames pretty well? |
00:21.46 | Shirik | well it really depends on the frame |
00:21.50 | Shirik | a bunch of empty frames, sure |
00:21.59 | Shirik | Almost every addon has one, most have many |
00:22.20 | mikma | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B077ZpeNcrg |
00:22.30 | Shirik | every action button you have is technically a frame, usually more |
00:22.45 | Shirik | every unit frame, every status bar on the unit frame |
00:22.52 | Shirik | there are a lot |
00:22.55 | dnmcgoy | yeah, everything is eitehr a frame or an attribute I think |
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00:23.43 | Shirik | let's see |
00:23.45 | dnmcgoy | basically I'll have about 200 frames before its all said and done I think |
00:23.46 | Shirik | I can count how many frames I have |
00:24.01 | Shirik | and I'm running an extremely run-down version of usual |
00:24.42 | dnmcgoy | crap I need to head out.. the peoples are waiting for me to get food.. will you be on later Shirik? |
00:24.52 | Shirik | usually am |
00:25.11 | dnmcgoy | cool.. hopefully see you guys in a few |
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00:27.33 | Shirik | take care |
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00:38.45 | Shirik | someone want to take a look at a pattern for me? |
00:41.11 | Thunder_Child | like cross stiching or a code pattern? |
00:41.45 | Shirik | code pattern |
00:41.48 | Shirik | lua |
00:41.51 | Shirik | but brb |
00:41.57 | Thunder_Child | cant help you there |
00:42.17 | Thunder_Child | hmm..dunno if i could help you with the other one tbh |
00:50.57 | Shirik | and back |
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01:24.44 | Kirkburn | Hullo all! |
01:26.11 | MentalPower | hey Kirkburn |
01:26.11 | Shirik | everything I've heard from Blizzcon so far has just made me angry :P Bad idea |
01:26.27 | Kirkburn | Aww |
01:28.14 | Shirik | I take that back |
01:28.18 | Shirik | I have heard one good change |
01:28.31 | Shirik | ability to uniquely reference units in the combat log |
01:28.40 | Shirik | that's it |
01:30.01 | Shirik | "TKN1NVN3NKS bar!]SVTKN1NVN1NKN2NVN2NTKSfoo!]SVTKN1NVN1NKN2NVS rawr!]STT" |
01:30.07 | Shirik | er |
01:30.26 | Shirik | burp |
01:30.27 | dnmcgoy | and back... what pattern? |
01:30.35 | Shirik | too late, I figured it out :P |
01:30.51 | Shirik | actually it was because I had the order of parameters in string.match mixed up >.> |
01:31.40 | dnmcgoy | AWW |
01:31.43 | dnmcgoy | eek.. caps |
01:32.47 | Shirik | do you like that string above? |
01:32.57 | Shirik | that's what I was trying to match :P |
01:35.38 | Kirkburn | Btw, to anyone back from BlizzCon that I met (or didn't, despite sitting on the same table) ... it was great to meet/see you |
01:36.10 | Kirkburn | and to those who could go on to Disneyland afterwards ... bastards. |
01:36.20 | Thunder_Child | heh |
01:36.23 | Shirik | disney world > disney land |
01:36.27 | Shirik | so =P |
01:36.31 | Thunder_Child | i will put the pics up from dinner later Kirkburn |
01:36.51 | Thunder_Child | after i make people look pretty |
01:47.31 | Cide | Shirik: where'd you see that? (uniquely referenced units) |
01:47.40 | Shirik | clad|away said it |
01:47.50 | Shirik | You CAN'T use them for targetting, etc. |
01:47.59 | Shirik | But you can use them for things such as parsing combat log, etc. |
01:48.06 | Shirik | Expect approx 2.4 |
01:48.29 | Kirkburn | Thunder_Child, heh |
01:49.06 | Kirkburn | I wish I'd gone to the UI panel on friday, bloody schedule |
01:49.11 | Thunder_Child | me to |
01:49.15 | Cide | awesome |
01:49.44 | Nom- | Hydross down last night :) |
01:49.45 | Nom- | *cheer* |
01:49.50 | Shirik | afaik, this will also allow you to uniquely reference units even if they are not targetted by a player |
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01:53.49 | Kirkburn | bbl |
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01:54.09 | cogwheel | hey Kirkburn :) |
01:54.10 | clad|away | for data correlation, yes. |
01:54.13 | clad|away | you'll be able to do that |
01:54.14 | cogwheel | bye, Kirkburn |
01:54.21 | Kirkburn | off home, be back in a bit hopefully |
01:54.26 | clad|away | literally, its just a GUID for every combat "actor" |
01:54.50 | clad|away | poky poky |
01:54.51 | clad|away | wha?? |
01:55.12 | Kirkburn | I'm running away to the circus |
01:55.17 | Kirkburn | No, wait, my apartment |
01:55.24 | Kirkburn | The keys are like right next to each other |
01:55.28 | cogwheel | my old GL has a circus |
01:55.33 | MentalPower | lol |
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01:55.49 | MentalPower | BTW, you guys are just as insane in real-life as you are here :) |
01:56.01 | cogwheel | :) |
01:56.18 | cogwheel | c'est vrai |
01:57.12 | clad|away | lol |
01:59.01 | clad|away | okay, flying home now |
01:59.03 | clad|away | see you all later |
01:59.19 | MentalPower | later clad |
02:00.00 | Shirik | have a good flight |
02:00.07 | Shirik | Kilmar shouldn't keep you in pattern too long |
02:00.16 | Shirik | ;) |
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02:08.25 | Nom- | mmmm... Tidewalker this week apparently |
02:08.28 | Nom- | That's going to be interesting |
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02:16.37 | Wraanger | heyaz |
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02:22.27 | Cide | Nom-: tidewalker sucks :P |
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02:26.34 | Nom- | I bet :/ |
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02:26.44 | Nom- | I'm trying to convert my guild to Paladinism |
02:27.02 | Nom- | Being a horde guild, they're very, very closed minded about specs |
02:27.14 | Nom- | Like, they don't want shamans or paladins in anything other than holy |
02:27.24 | Nom- | resto/holy whatever |
02:27.25 | Wobwork | no BM hunters? =) |
02:27.36 | Nom- | I think hunters get to spec any way they like |
02:31.31 | Arrowmaster | we have a prot pally in our raid right now |
02:32.04 | Arrowmaster | had 2 oomkins earlyer |
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02:41.25 | Shirik | is anyone else having trouble logging in? |
02:41.59 | Guillotine | if I wasn't offended that you didn't come to blizzcon I'd tell you that yes, I am having trouble. And I'd tell you that I was stuck at authenticating |
02:42.32 | Shirik | thanks :) |
02:42.46 | Shirik | =( |
02:42.52 | Shirik | I told you I couldn't go :( |
02:43.23 | Guillotine | I know :P |
02:45.24 | Guillotine | you could have protected me when I suggested to slouken that he ace the default ui. since you're acing RDX and everything, you know what its like |
02:45.38 | Guillotine | >.> |
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02:52.45 | Shirik | I'm not acing RDX... |
02:52.49 | Shirik | I'm not even coding RDX anymore |
02:52.57 | Shirik | you must be out of the loop, RDX isn't even on my computer |
02:53.57 | Guillotine | oh. then you're acing everything else on your computer? |
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02:54.00 | Guillotine | :P |
02:54.32 | ckknight | lol, Guillotine, how'd he react? |
02:54.40 | buu | Gah |
02:54.46 | buu | WTB [authserver] |
02:54.50 | Shirik | Conspiracy is the new, ground-up replacement |
02:54.56 | Shirik | and it will be sexy |
02:54.58 | ckknight | you should Ace it |
02:55.00 | ckknight | :-P |
02:55.05 | Shirik | It's not even VFL :P |
02:55.15 | Guillotine | he kind of rolled his eyes. And cair started beating me with a magazine |
02:55.16 | Shirik | And I know how to use VFL |
02:55.20 | Shirik | rofl |
02:55.28 | Nom- | I hope I can bring the guildies around to the idea of trying a Paladin tank. I'm getting so frustrated with some of the attitudes, and it's only been 2 weeks :/ |
02:55.38 | gnorlish | tank what? |
02:55.41 | Shirik | Anyway, video driver just crashed again so that means it's time to go to sleep |
02:55.43 | Shirik | Take care guys |
02:55.54 | Nom- | Anything, basically, gnorlish |
02:55.57 | Guillotine | Pally tanks ftw. Ours is tanking TK no problem |
02:56.11 | Guillotine | they are very gear dependant, but scale quite well with gear |
02:56.30 | Nom- | Guillotine: Yeah, I know... they just seem stuck on the opinion that Paladin Tank < Warrior Tank for *everything* |
02:56.47 | Nom- | At first, they weren't taking off-spec due to lack of healing |
02:56.59 | Nom- | Now that we've got more than enough healing and lack tanks, they're looking to recruit another warrior |
02:57.16 | Nom- | Instead of using a Paladin (me) who has already volunteered and has better gear than 2 of the Warriors |
02:57.18 | gnorlish | we've been bringing a paladin alt into karazhan |
02:57.30 | gnorlish | and now he's fully tanking geared from there, he does great |
02:57.38 | Nom- | The only warrior tank which outgears me in everything is our MT |
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02:57.42 | Nom- | Which is to be expected... |
02:57.44 | gnorlish | just needs more hps for harder stuff |
02:58.20 | Nom- | Yeah, that's it... Paladin tanks stack Stamina |
02:58.34 | buu | What gear do you give a tanking pally? |
02:59.04 | Kirkburn | Hey hey |
03:04.25 | Guillotine | hey Kirkburn :) |
03:04.46 | Nom- | buu: Warrior tanking gear, plus a really good spell damage weapon |
03:04.48 | Nom- | Typically |
03:04.58 | Nom- | The T4 lacks enough stamina really |
03:05.29 | Kirkburn | Guillotine, hullo there! |
03:06.12 | buu | Nom-: No spell on the other items? |
03:07.05 | Tem | anyone having auth issues atm? |
03:07.25 | Nom- | buu: You need it for higher level tanking, but the T4 sucks |
03:07.34 | Nom- | buu: T5 is OK from memory |
03:08.55 | buu | Tem: Yeah. |
03:09.01 | buu | GOING IN TO WITHDRAWALS. |
03:09.30 | Tem | I took a nap and got up to do my dailies and a little honor farming in AV but nooo |
03:10.12 | buu | =[ |
03:10.14 | buu | Yeah. |
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03:11.27 | Tem | sigh, the forums are slow as hell |
03:11.37 | Tem | but other people seem to be having the same issues |
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03:13.45 | Tem | wow... |
03:14.02 | Tem | their site was faster when everyone was hammering it trying to get info about the new expansion |
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03:31.31 | Tierrie | hola |
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03:37.10 | Nom- | Anyone seen a patch notice on login yet ? |
03:37.20 | Nom- | or downtime at least |
03:38.22 | Guillotine | Nom- for live? |
03:40.34 | Tierrie | sooo want to see my blizzcon photos? |
03:40.53 | Thunder_Child | sure |
03:41.02 | Nom- | For live, yes |
03:42.27 | Tierrie | http://www.flickr.com/photos/tierrie/sets/72157601245280162/detail/?page=4 |
03:43.11 | Tierrie | my favorite picture is of cladhaire sexing the photographer - http://www.flickr.com/photos/tierrie/1023637681/in/set-72157601245280162/ |
03:43.17 | Thunder_Child | heh, took you that long to take a pic of the naked BE? |
03:43.21 | Tierrie | "rawr, and now, you're pregnant" |
03:43.23 | Thunder_Child | mostly naked* |
03:43.34 | Tierrie | TC: they only showed up on 2nd day, and i rearranged my photos by theme |
03:43.51 | Thunder_Child | huh? |
03:44.02 | Tierrie | the BE showed up only on saturday, wasn't there on friday |
03:44.07 | Thunder_Child | o |
03:44.22 | Tierrie | so they are fairly late in the series, and then i moved them back more to be with the cosplayers |
03:44.31 | Tierrie | as in, moved their order back |
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03:45.01 | Tierrie | http://www.flickr.com/photos/tierrie/1023663909/in/set-72157601245280162/ |
03:45.44 | Thunder_Child | i should put mine up as well i suppose |
03:46.10 | Tierrie | nifty! |
03:47.01 | Thunder_Child | take a while to convert from RAW...pluss i should touch them up...and i am lazy |
03:47.24 | Thunder_Child | and cant type well |
03:53.35 | Thunder_Child | heh |
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03:54.31 | Thunder_Child | i will post up the unedited panorama of sat's dinner, it looks silly |
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04:07.00 | Thunder_Child | Tierrie, your running with the same camer i have, stock lens or upgrade? |
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04:09.47 | Thunder_Child | camera* |
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04:28.48 | Wobwork | Wow, AL is ... White =) |
04:28.52 | Tierrie | stock lens atm |
04:29.04 | Tierrie | haha, its just a joke, i just overexposed the picture |
04:29.17 | Tierrie | i am thinking of getting another lens, maybe the 17-40mm |
04:29.30 | Thunder_Child | i want the 35-170mm |
04:30.08 | Thunder_Child | here is the retarded panorama http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1184/1035815150_1a73a924fb_b.jpg |
04:30.22 | Kirkburn | it's tiny! |
04:30.37 | Thunder_Child | i cant post it bigger |
04:30.41 | Thunder_Child | the actual file is 15mb |
04:30.43 | Kirkburn | And I'm on a frakkin JOIN |
04:30.50 | Kirkburn | >:) |
04:31.06 | Thunder_Child | ya ya, i have to manualy edit each pic to make it fit properly |
04:31.38 | Kirkburn | I'm sure the final version (?) will look awesome |
04:31.43 | Thunder_Child | i hope so |
04:31.52 | Kirkburn | I'm on the 5/6 join for those that care |
04:32.21 | Kirkburn | The guy on the far right is the WoWWiki tech guy :) |
04:33.02 | Kirkburn | Bah, guess I'll have to set up a flickr account then |
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04:33.38 | Kirkburn | Tierrie, I agree with your comments about taking a picture of Cair :P |
04:33.59 | Mike-N-Go | Do WF totems help a druid tanking in bear? |
04:34.05 | Wraanger | no |
04:34.11 | Thunder_Child | heh, she tried hiding, iriel took about 50 of her face |
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04:34.15 | Esamynn | s/Caireen/Cairenn |
04:34.16 | Esamynn | s/Caireen/Cairenn/ |
04:34.25 | Esamynn | bah, whatever |
04:34.26 | Wraanger | when druid is shapeshidted, his attacks don't cound as weapons attack |
04:34.34 | Kirkburn | We all got picture, fo sho, but dare we post them? |
04:34.39 | Esamynn | lol |
04:34.40 | Thunder_Child | yes |
04:35.00 | Kirkburn | heh |
04:35.16 | Thunder_Child | if you really need to see yourself Kirkburn, here http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1158/1035082001_ab35b77bec_b.jpg |
04:35.29 | Kirkburn | Oh, it's sooo flattering :) |
04:35.45 | Thunder_Child | it's not my fault you picked that time to drink |
04:36.03 | Kirkburn | hehe |
04:36.20 | Thunder_Child | i need to go down to the store, brb |
04:36.20 | Kirkburn | Well, at least I have a distinctive profile |
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04:37.48 | Wobwork | oh god |
04:37.53 | Wobwork | freaky dryad bambi chick |
04:37.55 | Wraanger | anyone know how to hide that armored man which shows durability status ? DurabilityFrame:Hide() won't help =( |
04:38.17 | Mike-N-Go | Anyone answer my question? |
04:38.19 | Kirkburn | Wobwork, one assumes you aren't talking about me ... |
04:38.23 | Kirkburn | Mike-N-Go, yes |
04:38.31 | Kirkburn | Wraanger did |
04:39.08 | Esamynn | Kirkburn: damnit, somehow, you escaped my camera! :P |
04:39.52 | Kirkburn | :O |
04:40.01 | Kirkburn | I was only at the dinner :( |
04:40.10 | Esamynn | ahh |
04:40.12 | Esamynn | that's why |
04:40.19 | Esamynn | I didn't take any pictures at dinner |
04:40.22 | Kirkburn | Not for want of trying though |
04:40.24 | Esamynn | silly me |
04:40.30 | Esamynn | :( |
04:40.37 | Kirkburn | Steal others' and say their yours |
04:40.42 | Kirkburn | *they're |
04:40.43 | Esamynn | lol |
04:40.50 | Kirkburn | That's my plan ^^ |
04:40.56 | Wobwork | The costumes are kinda cool |
04:41.06 | Wobwork | Except the dryad =P |
04:41.12 | Wobwork | Who looks like she sat on Bambi |
04:41.18 | Esamynn | lol |
04:41.20 | Esamynn | yah |
04:41.58 | Wobwork | Bambi: "Is it dark in here, or is it just me? Hello?" |
04:42.42 | Esamynn | oh |
04:42.43 | Tierrie | i liked that bambi chick |
04:42.52 | Tierrie | dryads = cool! |
04:42.53 | Esamynn | I got a good shot of the UI team at the panel |
04:43.16 | Tierrie | funniest moment for me was when i was at the UI panel |
04:43.16 | Kirkburn | Who was there apart from Slouken? |
04:43.19 | Tierrie | and i wanted to sit on the second row |
04:43.30 | Tierrie | and this dude said to me, "these seats are reserved for wowi people" |
04:43.36 | Tierrie | i was sad faced :( |
04:43.47 | Esamynn | Kirkburn: Rislyn, Horkin |
04:44.07 | Kirkburn | Think the faces can be uploaded to WoWWiki? |
04:44.47 | Kirkburn | (I know Rislyn has a page) |
04:45.16 | Kirkburn | She's so ninja, she disappeared from the forums, did she not? |
04:45.43 | Kirkburn | Tierrie, I just wanted to be at the UI panel, but stupidly followed the printed schedule |
04:46.14 | Esamynn | Kirkburn: didn't see the revised schedule huh? :( |
04:46.36 | Kirkburn | I did, but thought the printed one was correct |
04:46.49 | Kirkburn | nvm, such is life |
04:47.00 | Tierrie | would have been nice to meet ya kirk |
04:47.21 | Esamynn | Tierrie: you should have said you were an author :P |
04:47.45 | Tierrie | i didn't know who you were, I didn't want to be like "BEGONE, I TOO KNOW CODE!" |
04:47.49 | Mike-N-Go | We have a druid tank, mage, shaman healer, rouge, and hunter. |
04:48.00 | Mike-N-Go | Rogue has about 1/2 of the damage done |
04:48.11 | Esamynn | Tierrie: do you know who it was you talked to? |
04:48.13 | Kirkburn | Tierrie, next Blizzcon :) |
04:48.13 | Mike-N-Go | Air or WF, we'er using air, currently. |
04:48.20 | Tierrie | yes, but its not a big deal |
04:48.25 | Kirkburn | Assuming I get paid travel again ^^ |
04:48.34 | Esamynn | Tierrie: I hope it wasn't me :/ |
04:48.47 | Tierrie | could have been, are you the dude with the long hair and looks a bit like ronaldinho? |
04:48.51 | Wraanger | Mike-N-Go : air, because only rogue would benefit from WF |
04:48.55 | Esamynn | Tierrie: nope |
04:48.58 | Tierrie | ok then |
04:49.05 | Wraanger | << shaman )) |
04:49.25 | Tierrie | i wished i had known you guys would hang out -- my guild went but we didn't stay close |
04:49.32 | Tierrie | was kind of boring, felt like i was at the event alone |
04:49.36 | Esamynn | Tierrie: long blonde air? |
04:49.38 | Tierrie | took good pictures though! need a tripod next time |
04:49.46 | Tierrie | no, long blonde hair is like jeebus |
04:49.51 | Tierrie | anduin |
04:49.52 | Esamynn | lol |
04:50.03 | AnduinLothar | que? |
04:50.20 | Tierrie | http://www.flickr.com/photos/tierrie/1023628879/in/set-72157601245280162/ |
04:50.23 | Tierrie | you! |
04:50.42 | Tierrie | not photoshopped :) |
04:50.46 | AnduinLothar | wtf, overexpose mroe plx |
04:50.50 | Esamynn | haha |
04:51.00 | Tierrie | any more and you would have no face :P |
04:51.13 | Mike-N-Go | Thanks for the advice. |
04:51.28 | ckknight | t'd be better just to give a halo |
04:52.23 | Tierrie | you know, people were all "blood elf blood elf" but the cutest girl i saw was a redhead and this person - http://www.flickr.com/photos/tierrie/1024022877/in/set-72157601245280162/ |
04:52.49 | Tierrie | i wonder if i can get cosplayers to take off their clothes next year |
04:53.13 | Guillotine | many of them were already halfway done with that |
04:53.20 | ckknight | hott |
04:53.21 | Tierrie | ya well |
04:54.01 | Tierrie | ja |
04:57.25 | Thunder_Child | long blond hair is AL i think |
04:57.31 | Thunder_Child | damn |
04:57.36 | Thunder_Child | forgot to scrool down |
04:57.41 | Thunder_Child | scroll* |
04:58.02 | Guillotine | yes, it is |
04:58.21 | Guillotine | and I'm the guy in the white curse shirt that is barely visible in TC's panoramo |
04:58.27 | Guillotine | panorama* |
04:58.33 | Kirkburn | heh |
04:58.45 | Thunder_Child | yes, must needs fix |
04:59.14 | Guillotine | you bastard TC, you're not in the panorama |
04:59.17 | Thunder_Child | the issue i have with pictues isnt that they come out blury (i take multiple at a time for that) but that i dont take my time and it focuses on something else |
04:59.22 | Guillotine | you'll have to get a picture from iriel and add it in |
04:59.28 | Thunder_Child | bah |
04:59.30 | Thunder_Child | nevar |
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04:59.55 | Thunder_Child | i think he was the only one to get a pic of me |
05:00.21 | Thunder_Child | maybe cair..she was pointing her phone at me |
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05:00.38 | Mr_Rabies2 | darnit |
05:00.49 | Mr_Rabies2 | anyone know any pvp addons with similar functionality to sspvp? |
05:00.56 | Mr_Rabies2 | i have the feeling sspvp is permanently broken :( |
05:01.00 | Guillotine | so I met a GM while doing the TCG beginners tournament. He believes mods are the bane of all existance, I believe GMs that know nothing about them are :P |
05:01.39 | Mr_Rabies2 | they probably believe that because they're tired of idiots asking them to help them with addons |
05:01.44 | Thunder_Child | he prolly had to deal with issues all day that have to do with them..hell i might be a bit miffed at them as well |
05:01.57 | Mr_Rabies2 | GET OUT OF MY MIND |
05:02.00 | Thunder_Child | although i would usualy blame the retards that cant use them |
05:02.06 | Tierrie | i think, if i ever go to blizzcon again, i will ask the devs, "i am rock, scissor's fine, nerf paper" |
05:02.08 | Thunder_Child | no, it's comfy in there |
05:02.17 | JunkHead-Work | Morning. |
05:03.00 | Thunder_Child | rock == war, scissor == rogue, paper == mage...ya, works |
05:03.52 | Guillotine | rock==war scissor==rogue paper==mage atomic bomb==lock |
05:03.54 | Kyahx | Mr_Rabies2: how is sspvp broken? |
05:04.19 | Mr_Rabies2 | autojoin's broken, like half the events are broken |
05:04.29 | Tierrie | also, i will ask "when is the sequel to your famous franchise, the lost vikings and rock and roll racing, coming out" |
05:04.38 | Kyahx | I hanent used it in a while |
05:04.57 | Kyahx | have you tried Shadowed's SVN version? |
05:05.32 | Kyahx | or is the current wowi version the same, dunno |
05:05.54 | Mr_Rabies2 | he's done with addons kyax |
05:06.02 | Kyahx | I know that |
05:06.36 | Mr_Rabies2 | i want to find something else to use because sspvp's going to eventually be permanently unsuable if it isn't already :p |
05:06.50 | Kyahx | Just take sspvpv and fix it *shrug* |
05:07.28 | Mr_Rabies2 | yeah let me do that oh wait i don't know the slightest about addons :( |
05:08.24 | Kyahx | learning can be fun! :P |
05:11.31 | Mr_Rabies2 | unless this learning involves coding |
05:11.35 | Mr_Rabies2 | which i'm not a fan of |
05:13.00 | Guillotine | its easy to fix. just add this code to the top line: |
05:13.03 | Guillotine | while true do end |
05:13.18 | Esamynn | ~lart Guillotine |
05:13.18 | purl | installs a bad bootloader on Guillotine and turns Guillotine into a brick |
05:18.13 | Kaydeethree | oh, gah. |
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05:20.17 | Kirkburn | Iriel, hello |
05:21.16 | Iriel | Hello! Made it up north intact? |
05:24.18 | Kirkburn | Just about :) |
05:24.22 | Thunder_Child | heh, the 1 hr drive to la |
05:24.54 | Kirkburn | Almost messed up getting to the airport though >< |
05:25.17 | Kirkburn | But I'm here now, and have started at Wikia |
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06:10.31 | Mr_Rabies2 | bonk |
06:10.54 | Thunder_Child | hmmm? |
06:17.56 | Mr_Rabies2 | i dunno |
06:18.14 | Mr_Rabies2 | usually a bonk starts the channel back up |
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06:23.04 | Esamynn | ~poke Mr_Rabies |
06:23.05 | purl | ACTION cuts down a small tree, sneaks up behind Mr_Rabies, pokes Mr_Rabies repeatedly, hilarity ensues. |
06:23.23 | Esamynn | ~botsnack |
06:23.23 | purl | aw, gee, Esamynn |
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06:41.33 | Tierrie | Iriel! |
06:42.16 | Kirkburn | behind you! |
06:42.29 | Esamynn | LOOK OUT! |
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06:48.15 | Kirkburn | He's a slow runner |
06:48.28 | Kirkburn | Six minutes that took >< |
06:48.46 | Esamynn | lol |
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07:08.29 | ckknight | does anyone know if you can send whispers to the opposing team in an arena? |
07:09.02 | Guillotine | if they are the same faction, yes |
07:09.09 | Guillotine | no restrictions on that :/ |
07:09.16 | ckknight | hrm |
07:09.39 | ckknight | I'm just thinking that it could lead to possible issues if someone put a backdoor into an addon :-P |
07:09.43 | ckknight | *shrug* |
07:09.57 | Guillotine | so, technically, one way to see who you are against would be to loop through all known names of arena teams not on your server, but same faction. for each name, send a whisper. if it goes through, you're against that team |
07:10.14 | Guillotine | yah, it could cause a problem. but then, theres so many ways to do that anyway |
07:10.20 | ckknight | *shrug* |
07:10.31 | Guillotine | they could just do "if UnitName("target")=="Guillotine" then while 1 do end" |
07:10.36 | Guillotine | skip the whole backdoor part :P |
07:10.50 | nevcairiel | you could even trigger that backdoor crossfaction with a pre-formated yell, so *shrug* |
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07:11.12 | ckknight | Guillotine: hehe |
07:11.19 | ckknight | Guillotine: clearly, it should be done. |
07:11.27 | Guillotine | lol |
07:11.35 | ckknight | :-P |
07:13.04 | Guillotine | my point is just that, while the backdoor could be added, its not worth disabling "WHISPER" in BGs. Theres just so many ways to mess someone up like that that it won't be worth interfering with perfectly good addons when there won't be any advantage gained anyway |
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07:15.39 | Guillotine | ckknight: not to mention if they're doing it they could just program it themselves. If someones trying to program in a backdoor to help them witn arena matches, I doubt they're going to care about the 'efficiency' of said backdoor :P |
07:15.52 | Guillotine | hence they can just go around AceComm |
07:16.06 | ckknight | *shrug* |
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07:16.36 | Guillotine | though heres a possiblity |
07:16.47 | Guillotine | what if you just restricted whispers from people not on your server while in BGs |
07:16.56 | Guillotine | in arenas* |
07:17.04 | Guillotine | that way it can't interfere with legitamite addons |
07:17.16 | Guillotine | but SEVERELY limits the amount of damage that can be done by a backdoor like that |
07:17.33 | Wobwork | what's wrong with in-faction whispers in BGs? |
07:18.21 | Guillotine | the possibility of someone putting in a backdoor to crash the enemies clients when they press a certain button |
07:18.29 | Guillotine | if the enemy has the required addon of course |
07:18.47 | Wobwork | ah |
07:19.00 | Wobwork | well that follows for just about anything, doesn't it? |
07:19.20 | Wobwork | /yell ABRACADABRAALAKAZAM! |
07:19.25 | Wobwork | *crash* |
07:19.50 | Guillotine | right |
07:19.54 | Wobwork | if personyelling == "wobin" then send cash now end |
07:20.10 | Guillotine | or, as I said before: if UnitName("target")=="Guillotine" then while 1 do end |
07:21.10 | ckknight | while true |
07:21.14 | ckknight | you and your C-isms |
07:23.07 | Punkie` | the problem in arenas is that you can whisper 'Warglaive of Azzeroth' and if that player has not seen it or not had it drop on their server, clicking it will make them crash and leave the arena |
07:24.20 | Guillotine | hmm. thats a good idea. thanks for the tip >.> |
07:24.50 | Guillotine | would have been better back in patch 1.12 where you could make the links that were guaranteed to d/c someone that clicked on them |
07:24.53 | Guillotine | :P |
07:25.01 | Guillotine | <PROTECTED> |
07:25.03 | Punkie` | ;) |
07:27.40 | Wobwork | hehe |
07:27.56 | Wobwork | And it's almost instinct for a WoW player to click on a link they've not seen before =) |
07:28.13 | Punkie` | yeah, or try it on in the wardrobe |
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07:32.42 | Mr_Rabies2 | i find myself trying to click links in irc sometimes |
07:32.46 | Mr_Rabies2 | like, for example |
07:34.56 | Guillotine | gn all :) |
07:36.06 | Mr_Rabies2 | 6[Jin'Rohk, The Great Apocalypse] |
07:36.31 | Guillotine | lol |
07:36.57 | Esamynn | doh! I clicked it! |
07:36.59 | Esamynn | :P |
07:37.03 | nevcairiel | lol |
07:37.59 | kergoth | lol |
07:48.33 | Nom- | woooot |
07:48.36 | Nom- | just got my tax return :D |
07:53.33 | kergoth | that reminds me, i should do my taxes |
07:53.38 | kergoth | i'm only .. what.. 4 months late |
07:53.45 | Esamynn | ~lart kergoth |
07:53.45 | purl | changes kergoth's permissions to 0777 and tells the world |
07:54.12 | Esamynn | haha |
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08:06.55 | Kirkburn|sleep | I'd rather get my permissions changed to 007 |
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08:52.24 | Mr_Rabies2 | i'm trying to remember, 0777 is full permissions, right? |
08:52.35 | zenzelezz | yes |
08:52.38 | Mr_Rabies2 | but what's the 0 infront for? :o |
08:52.46 | zenzelezz | octal I think |
08:53.01 | Mr_Rabies2 | i seem to remember messing around with those on my ftp back when i used one |
08:53.21 | Mr_Rabies2 | i also used to slink around on blizzard's ftp to check for leaked content :p |
08:53.23 | zenzelezz | like 0xFF is hex, 0777 is octal in C/C++ anyway |
08:55.22 | zenzelezz | it could just be an explicit "nothing here" value also... I think 3777 (or was it 377?) the "max" octal value for a certain number of bits |
09:07.58 | zenzelezz | http://clients.arranschlosberg.com/chuck/index.htm |
09:07.59 | Mr_Rabies2 | instant alt mail ftw |
09:09.05 | Mr_Rabies2 | oh no |
09:09.19 | Mr_Rabies2 | 1900 to 1650g in a couple seconds :[ |
09:09.29 | zenzelezz | heh, what did you buy? |
09:09.30 | Mr_Rabies2 | these huge wallet hits are tearing me down |
09:09.33 | Mr_Rabies2 | earthwarden |
09:10.05 | Mr_Rabies2 | it still doesn't compare to going from 5010g to 10g in one click though :( |
09:10.47 | nevcairiel | heh |
09:12.51 | zenzelezz | I went from 6100 to 2100 not long ago, and I was pretty startled at how little I cared |
09:13.18 | nevcairiel | what can you buy for 4k? |
09:13.33 | Thelyna | probably a couple of darkmoon decks |
09:14.09 | zenzelezz | didn't buy anything; I got tired of seeing my gold amount without ever spending on anything, so I gave away some to the guy that's been pretty much a mentor to me since I came to the server I play on |
09:14.35 | zenzelezz | he was quite surprised too |
09:14.49 | nevcairiel | i bet |
09:16.28 | Mr_Rabies2 | my friend bought me an epic mount when they were more than the training |
09:16.34 | Mr_Rabies2 | for xmas |
09:16.45 | Mr_Rabies2 | cost him a day's work at ingles :( |
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13:25.30 | zenzelezz | so... guildies on alts are discussing who could keep my 70 tank alive in normal mana tombs... before asking me if I want to do a normal mana tombs :-o |
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13:37.52 | Wobin | fills you with a sense of foreboding? |
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13:56.49 | Kyahx | sounds like a good time to logout to me |
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15:20.36 | art3mis | so quiet |
15:20.40 | art3mis | im scared |
15:20.57 | Lopeppeppy | Rawr. |
15:22.09 | [dRaCo] | evil. |
15:25.43 | Lopeppeppy | Oooh.... |
15:26.52 | TS|Skrom | http://www.thelightwarriors.net/sujah/index.php?title=Advent02synop_%28Nyrond%29 D&D goodness ^ |
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15:34.20 | cog|work | well... time to redo my UI |
15:34.38 | Lopeppeppy | Huzzah. I hope you enjoy it, Cogwheel. |
15:34.46 | zenzelezz | reinstalled or just in need of change? |
15:35.01 | cog|work | Got a new monitor... went from 1280x1024 to 1920x1200 |
15:35.08 | zenzelezz | aha |
15:35.54 | Lopeppeppy | Oooh... very nice change. |
15:35.57 | cog|work | http://www.newegg.com/product/product.asp?item=N82E16824001222 |
15:36.09 | zenzelezz | as long as the quality is good, indeed |
15:36.24 | cog|work | was just nominated for a newegg customer choice award :) |
15:36.30 | zenzelezz | I was amazed how much better my Samtron was compared to my old stupid Acer |
15:37.17 | zenzelezz | surprisingly one of my best ever LCDs is my first, a now somewhat old Hyundai |
15:38.13 | Lopeppeppy | I have a little 19" Acer LCD, it makes me happy for the time being. |
15:38.24 | Punkie` | I have a Hyundai :) |
15:38.31 | Punkie` | Very good indeed |
15:38.33 | zenzelezz | Lopeppeppy: how old is it? |
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15:39.16 | Lopeppeppy | Maybe a year old, zenzelezz, tops. |
15:39.25 | Lopeppeppy | No, just over, because I had it before I moved. |
15:39.29 | zenzelezz | should be decent then, mine is much older |
15:39.47 | art3mis | i lurv my viewsonic 21"ws |
15:39.55 | Punkie` | Mine's about 6 months old or so, I'm glad I picked a widescreen though :) |
15:40.06 | art3mis | hehe ws is the debbil |
15:40.14 | art3mis | i cant use regular monitors anymore |
15:40.20 | art3mis | it just looks "wierd" |
15:41.02 | cog|work | The only thing I'm unhappy about is that it doesn't seem to have any way to automatically change the aspect ratio when running 4:3 fullscreen games |
15:41.33 | cog|work | I'd much rather have black bars on the sides than a stretched image |
15:41.38 | Punkie` | 4:3 only games are old and suck ! |
15:41.39 | zenzelezz | I've yet to try a widescreen LCD, but I feel cramped with less than two monitors |
15:41.55 | cog|work | Punkie`: Warcraft III |
15:42.01 | foxlit | Laptop + desktop at the same time works |
15:42.06 | Punkie` | never played it :P |
15:42.10 | cog|work | old, yes... suck, no :P |
15:42.13 | Kyahx | I'd say that http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824001236 is the best deal in a moniter. |
15:42.21 | foxlit | Though there are a few problems when I try to copy/paste stuff between two computers |
15:42.25 | Punkie` | can't you edit one of its config files to change the resolution by hand? |
15:42.34 | Punkie` | matching your screen rez ofc |
15:42.43 | Punkie` | I did that to some old games, worked quite well |
15:42.52 | cog|work | Punkie`: haven't tried... maybe |
15:43.11 | foxlit | Bx6W samsungs look awesome! |
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16:42.09 | zenzelezz | I hate how the last weapon skill point always taken an eternity to level |
16:42.18 | Lopeppeppy | If not an entire lifetime. |
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16:48.18 | foxlit | Got 350 staves meleeing Vashj |
16:48.28 | foxlit | Cost us a wipe, root + charge |
16:49.05 | zenzelezz | I've been punching Servant of Razelikh somewhere around 30 minutes now without getting the last 2h axe point :-| |
16:49.22 | Lopeppeppy | Those things live forever, zenzelezz. :) |
16:49.37 | zenzelezz | that's the point |
16:49.53 | zenzelezz | but you'd think after 30 minutes I'd get the last skill point |
16:49.59 | Gnarfoz | heh |
16:50.19 | nevcairiel | you sure you even skill on those? |
16:50.29 | zenzelezz | I've done 305-349, so yes |
16:50.29 | foxlit | It's like fishing |
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16:50.33 | foxlit | You skill on anything |
16:51.00 | Antiarc|Work | zenzelezz: I skilled maces from 1-300 way back when on those guys. Heroism card + crusader for the win. |
16:51.11 | Antiarc|Work | Start whacking, go AFK for TV or whatever |
16:51.30 | nevcairiel | you sure you skill weapons on anything? i remember that it wouldnt work on too low mobs .. but i can be mistaken :shrug: |
16:51.39 | Antiarc|Work | Yes, you can, nevcairiel |
16:51.47 | Antiarc|Work | I skill new ranged weapons on the deeprun rats |
16:51.55 | nevcairiel | lol |
16:51.58 | zenzelezz | I took my guns skill from 1-100ish on the wolves and boars in Dun Morogh at 70 |
16:52.00 | Antiarc|Work | They instantly respawn |
16:52.02 | nevcairiel | THATs why they are always dead |
16:52.05 | Antiarc|Work | So you have an unlimited target supply |
16:52.27 | zenzelezz | Antiarc|Work: hm, thanks for the tip, I need to level my thrown |
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16:58.37 | |Jelly| | Morning everyone! |
17:01.32 | Lopeppeppy | Heyo. |
17:02.09 | clad|sleep | my intarweb is extremely slow today |
17:02.09 | clad|sleep | <PROTECTED> |
17:02.38 | Lopeppeppy | My intraweb is too fast, I'm making myself seasick flipping pages. |
17:04.57 | zenzelezz | I don't get Teremus the Devourer... he's marked as skull, but does not do crushing blows on me, and I resist 90% of his spells with 0 resistance. However, he does occasionally crit me, with 514 defense |
17:05.40 | Lopeppeppy | He's a weird boss mob, the one they kite to Stormwind to watch him have endless life off the newbies. |
17:06.17 | leethal | SPELLFAILCASTOTHER = "%s fails to cast %s: %s." -- what is the last %s? |
17:06.31 | leethal | would that be something like Foo fails to cast Fear: Hogger is immune.? |
17:08.33 | zenzelezz | I would guess so |
17:09.45 | leethal | mm |
17:09.57 | leethal | trying to decrypt this one too - AURAAPPLICATIONADDEDOTHERHARMFUL = "%s is afflicted by %s (%d)."; |
17:10.14 | leethal | I have a feeling I see something like that when I'm dazed |
17:10.29 | leethal | like, Foo is afflicted by Harbl (dazed) |
17:10.32 | leethal | oh, it's a %d |
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17:15.14 | End | leethal: multiple stacks for a debuff perhaps? |
17:15.27 | End | (like sunder for example?) |
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17:17.02 | End | (well, I can verify "Hive'Zara Wasp is afflicted by Sunder Armor (3)." is a possible message) |
17:18.46 | leethal | aha |
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17:20.36 | Cide | yep, that's what it's for |
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17:23.08 | ScytheBlade1 | Huh, wtf |
17:23.21 | ScytheBlade1 | Apparently Blizzard now has a chance to proc clearcasting on every tick it does |
17:23.39 | ScytheBlade1 | ... same with Fireball DoTs... |
17:23.56 | End | o_O |
17:24.04 | jme | my thoughts exactly |
17:24.16 | ScytheBlade1 | Pretty sure if that goes live I'm dropping my unique fire spec and picking up clearcasting. |
17:24.52 | End | ignite + fireball dot + normal direct damage = go go clearcasting? |
17:25.01 | ScytheBlade1 | Exactly |
17:25.18 | ScytheBlade1 | 8s DoT that's up always, that can proc clearcasting? |
17:25.31 | ScytheBlade1 | On top of the 4s Ignite DoT, and the fireball DD, in combo with scorch.. |
17:25.46 | ScytheBlade1 | Nevermind the AoE changes that brings. Holy crap yes @ infinite mana always with Blizzard. |
17:26.02 | End | yeah, that'd be immensely useful for aoeing |
17:26.13 | End | AoE spells tend to be pretty expensive |
17:26.28 | ScytheBlade1 | If that went live I'd be 100% onboard with my guild's tossing around an AoE strat on Hydross |
17:26.38 | ScytheBlade1 | But as it is now, I don't really like 1400 mana per Blizzard |
17:26.49 | Saint-N | awww there there muffin ;P |
17:27.06 | ScytheBlade1 | Err, 1645 |
17:27.09 | ScytheBlade1 | lol |
17:27.19 | ScytheBlade1 | Careful, I'll piss in your water. |
17:27.27 | ScytheBlade1 | Gnome piss can do things to you. |
17:27.31 | End | it wouldn't help as much when he's frost though, but that'd be a huge mana saver when he's nature |
17:27.44 | Saint-N | im undead, you're gnomish parasites mean nothing! |
17:27.47 | Saint-N | err your |
17:28.16 | End | hmmm |
17:28.16 | Saint-N | what i dont quite get is why gnomes are in the game and goblins arent |
17:28.40 | End | is blizzard a lot better when you can channel fully? |
17:28.46 | Saint-N | i honestly dont remember seeing a single gnome in any of the warcraft games |
17:28.48 | ScytheBlade1 | Yes |
17:28.56 | End | ok, that makes sense |
17:28.58 | ScytheBlade1 | Simply because if you don't, you're still out 1645 mana for less damage |
17:29.12 | jme | i love when people use blizzard outside van's room in AV |
17:29.15 | jme | to stop us |
17:29.20 | ScytheBlade1 | Start Blizzard --> cancel == waste of nearly 2k mana |
17:29.27 | ScytheBlade1 | lol |
17:29.27 | End | er, I suppose I didn't explain properly |
17:29.37 | End | is it a lot better than arcane explosion? |
17:29.44 | End | (besides being ranged) |
17:29.55 | ScytheBlade1 | In terms of mana effeciency, yes |
17:29.59 | MatthewS | depends on what you are using it for |
17:30.05 | End | ok, that's what I thought |
17:30.07 | ScytheBlade1 | The differences being instant cast and range |
17:30.29 | End | (of course, as we all know, if it gets interrupted, that's bad) |
17:30.34 | ScytheBlade1 | Very :) |
17:30.36 | MatthewS | and if you sink talent points to get added slow |
17:30.58 | ScytheBlade1 | That's why I'm not liking this AoE Hydross strategy.. I'll run oom far too early |
17:31.32 | End | we don't have enough good tanks |
17:31.50 | End | our attempts so far have required banishes, which sucks immensely :( |
17:32.02 | ScytheBlade1 | We have the tanks... just not the competent DPS |
17:32.16 | ScytheBlade1 | DoT tick == oopsaggrolol |
17:32.30 | ScytheBlade1 | Spawns another set of mobs on accident |
17:32.34 | foxlit | It's acceptable to use a banish on hydross, tbh :) |
17:32.37 | ScytheBlade1 | And then runs back to the tank, spawning four mour |
17:32.41 | ScytheBlade1 | *more |
17:32.44 | End | foxlit: yeah, but I wanna aoe! |
17:32.50 | ScytheBlade1 | Leaving us with.. 12 adds spawned. |
17:32.57 | foxlit | You can't handle the AoE! :P |
17:33.11 | End | oh, I can kill them! |
17:33.17 | End | I just die before my seeds go off |
17:33.20 | foxlit | Seriously, though, those adds are evil if loose. |
17:33.32 | End | (which is why we don't aoe either) |
17:34.05 | End | I don't like that fight though |
17:34.14 | End | (DoT ticks being one of the reasons) |
17:34.24 | ScytheBlade1 | And HoT ticks actually |
17:34.33 | End | we've had that too |
17:34.34 | ScytheBlade1 | We've got two trees and uh... they aren't happy |
17:34.35 | ScytheBlade1 | At all |
17:34.51 | End | I think we have our healers stand to either side of him now though |
17:35.04 | End | (if possible) |
17:35.41 | ScytheBlade1 | ... lol |
17:35.41 | ScytheBlade1 | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=442926602&sid=1&pageNo=2#29 |
17:36.04 | foxlit | Hm, question |
17:36.16 | foxlit | <Script file="Subdirectory/File.lua"/> |
17:36.24 | End | heh, the kernel has nothing to do with it |
17:36.28 | foxlit | Does the slash style matter? |
17:36.37 | End | foxlit: I've heard it doesn't |
17:37.10 | End | (unfortunately, it might be that it matters in some places and doesn't in others...) |
17:37.17 | foxlit | Getting some odd "Error loading Interface\Addons\RABuffs\ConfigUI/Base.lua" log messages |
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17:37.41 | End | It might want consistant slashes |
17:37.56 | foxlit | Yeah, but I only supply ConfigUI/Base.lua |
17:37.57 | End | hmm |
17:38.01 | End | yeah |
17:38.04 | End | I just realized that |
17:38.13 | End | I'd try flipping the slash then, I guess |
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17:39.13 | foxlit | hah, that forum post is win |
17:39.43 | ScytheBlade1 | For some definitions of "win" |
17:39.52 | ScytheBlade1 | I never knew that the OSX kernel integrated FTP. |
17:39.55 | ScytheBlade1 | News to me. |
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17:40.11 | foxlit | It's very misguided |
17:40.17 | foxlit | And hell, windows has better FTP support |
17:40.56 | foxlit | He means Finder can mount volumes through FTP. |
17:41.04 | foxlit | Unfortunately, it can't write to them, so it's all sort of silly |
17:41.49 | ScytheBlade1 | Wow. Try all sorts of retarded. |
17:41.53 | ScytheBlade1 | FTP has been around how long? |
17:43.41 | End | I'd expect being able to write to FTP is probably about as relevant as UUCP these days |
17:44.00 | End | actually I take that back |
17:44.11 | End | I guess it still gets used a bit? |
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17:44.34 | End | (Everywhere I care about copying files upstream tends to use SFTP though) |
17:44.38 | ScytheBlade1 | FTP is still used everywhere, sadly |
17:44.42 | ScytheBlade1 | FTP just needs to die |
17:46.52 | Saint-N | ftp is great though |
17:47.00 | Saint-N | p2p needs to die ;P |
17:47.19 | Saint-N | and bit torrents |
17:47.33 | Saint-N | from people who have shitty up BW or limit thier up to 1k/s |
17:54.57 | Thunder_Child | http://www.funnieststuff.net/viewmovie.php?ad_key=CAUFHDGYFKFL&tracking_id=861788&id=549 |
17:57.00 | zenzelezz | <ScytheBlade1> FTP has been around how long? <--- the same could be said for IRC |
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17:59.42 | End | both are a product of the '80s I think? |
17:59.56 | Lunessa | ? |
17:59.56 | End | although, IRC is the newer of the two |
18:00.06 | zenzelezz | quick Google for 959 and 1459 suggests 1989 + 1993 |
18:00.14 | zenzelezz | sorry, 1985 |
18:00.56 | zenzelezz | granted that's the RFCs, so the protocols could be older |
18:02.24 | leethal | what's all these SPELLDURABILITYDAMAGEOTHERSELF thingies? |
18:02.31 | leethal | there's no spell that causes you to lose durability, is it? |
18:02.50 | End | IRC was first around 1988 or 1989 I think...er, let's see, wikipedia says august 1988 |
18:03.08 | leethal | hmm.. or wasn't Nefarian doing some of that stuff? |
18:03.10 | leethal | never did BWL =P |
18:03.30 | End | Ragnaros damages your weapon doesn't he? Although I don't think that appeared in your combat log. |
18:04.39 | End | "Melt Weapon" |
18:04.42 | End | Often Ragnaros damages melee weapons that strike him. This takes 1 point off a weapon's durability per attempt. To counter this, bring spare weapons and ensure the raid has a repair-bot for between every few attempts. |
18:05.03 | End | http://www.wowhead.com/?spell=21388 |
18:05.59 | Lopeppeppy | Nefarion was the one that did class calls, the reason why hunters brought an extra bow and had the swap macros, IIRC. |
18:09.35 | zenzelezz | Nefarian |
18:09.57 | Lopeppeppy | Ya-ya, spell-freak. :) I never faced him, nefarious or not. |
18:10.24 | zenzelezz | Victor Nefarius, dragon form Nefarian =) And yes, I am a spell freak... and into word play and whatnot |
18:11.08 | End | ah hah |
18:11.11 | zenzelezz | Oooh yeah baby, bend that verb! |
18:11.28 | End | http://thottbot.com/s23436 |
18:11.30 | End | :P |
18:11.34 | Lopeppeppy | There's Neltharion too, there's a whole crop of nasty black dragons with similar names. |
18:11.45 | End | There is nef's hunter class call spell :P |
18:11.57 | zenzelezz | Lopeppeppy: yups |
18:12.13 | Lopeppeppy | You'd think they're like.... related or something! |
18:12.17 | zenzelezz | I can't remember off-hand which it is, but there are some other mobs I confuse too |
18:12.18 | End | I don't speak of Neltharion anymore *wink wink* |
18:12.25 | End | s/I/We/ |
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18:15.10 | leethal | a disarmed mod just disarmed me :O |
18:15.45 | Lopeppeppy | I hear Daffy Duck ho-ho-ing in the background... |
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18:33.42 | Lopeppeppy | I do love classic Warner Brothers. |
18:33.53 | Kaydeethree | duck amuck ftw |
18:34.44 | Lopeppeppy | Transylvania 6-5000. |
18:34.49 | Lunessa | Duck Dodgers in the 25th-and-a-half Century! |
18:34.52 | Lopeppeppy | Abra-ca-pocus. Hocus-cadabra! |
18:35.18 | Lunessa | Plant X is the last source of the Shaving Cream Molecule! |
18:35.55 | Lunessa | I have something like 90 hours of classic cartoons on Laser Disc. |
18:36.56 | Lopeppeppy | If I could get Transylvania 6-5000 on DVD, my life would be complete. |
18:37.29 | Saint-N | ive got the entire collection of roadrunner cartoons somewheres |
18:38.16 | Lunessa | I just need to find a working Laser Disc player so I can import these to my computer. |
18:38.20 | Saint-N | heh |
18:39.17 | Lopeppeppy | Always a good treasure hunt, Lunessa. |
18:40.13 | Saint-N | best line in bugs bunny was when he was being chased by the evil witch that wanted to cook him after he set hansel and gretle free |
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18:40.29 | Saint-N | and he changes her into a female rabbit and says "arent they all witches inside?" |
18:40.33 | foxlit | http://www.blizzard.com/jobopp/software-engineer-user-interface.shtml |
18:40.56 | Lopeppeppy | It's a something. |
18:43.59 | Lunessa | Lopeppeppy: Check out Chuck Redux - all about Chuck Jones - very fun and instersting stuff. |
18:44.31 | deltron | hmm |
18:44.48 | Lopeppeppy | I'll toss it on the bottom of the "books to read, movies to see" list, Lunessa! |
18:45.37 | Lunessa | He talks about the orign os many cartoon characters. |
18:46.51 | deltron | chuck jones was a genius |
18:46.52 | jme | foxlit: hello dream job |
18:47.10 | deltron | do eeet |
18:47.37 | jme | i wish, i don't have 2 years of industry experience and i've never coded a wow addon in my life |
18:47.50 | deltron | sounds like me! |
18:49.53 | jme | :O |
18:50.24 | jme | too bad blizzard doesn't have a college recruit entry level thing |
18:50.28 | jme | i'd be all over that |
18:51.36 | jme | http://www.blizzard.com/jobopp/programmer-lead-engine.shtml |
18:51.39 | chuckg | Heh. |
18:51.40 | AnduinLothar | they're starting an internship program next year |
18:51.40 | Lunessa | brb |
18:51.43 | chuckg | Start working as a QA> |
18:51.44 | jme | that would rock |
18:51.47 | chuckg | I met their whole QA team. |
18:51.51 | chuckg | They're all under 20. |
18:51.51 | jme | AnduinLothar: nice |
18:51.56 | chuckg | Without a college degree. |
18:51.56 | jme | chuckg: lol |
18:52.08 | chuckg | Start entry and work up. |
18:52.11 | chuckg | That's how 90% of their team is. |
18:52.21 | jme | chuckg: are they always hiring QA people? |
18:52.25 | chuckg | The guy who designed c'thun, vashj, onyxia, all that.. |
18:52.25 | AnduinLothar | i did QA night shift for a while. not much vertical movement, but it was fun |
18:52.28 | chuckg | His name is Zan. |
18:52.32 | chuckg | He started doing "mob placement". |
18:52.33 | chuckg | That's it. |
18:52.37 | chuckg | Now he's lead raid designer. |
18:52.40 | chuckg | For every big encounter in the game. |
18:52.56 | jme | i guess he was one of the guys talking at the raid panel at blizzcon? |
18:53.01 | chuckg | Goodman. |
18:53.04 | chuckg | He didn't do much talking. |
18:53.04 | AnduinLothar | mob placement is similar to the entry level with BS |
18:53.14 | chuckg | He's a good guy though, |
18:53.15 | jme | which one was that? i didn't know any names.. i only watched about 3 minutes of a video |
18:53.19 | chuckg | One on the end. |
18:53.24 | jme | ah |
18:53.27 | chuckg | For the raids and dunegones panel. |
18:57.08 | mikma | http://youtube.com/watch?v=MkRxjrlgzp0 <3 |
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19:02.04 | Kaydeethree | gack... what the hell is up with the heat today? 37 outside right now, heat index of 46 |
19:03.14 | Lopeppeppy | I'm looking at 95 degrees and 90% humidity outdoors, I soooooo do not want to get in my car for an hour long commute. |
19:03.49 | Lunessa | Lopeppeppy: It's only slightly cooler here. |
19:05.10 | foxlit | Ah, the joy of splitting code into chunks. |
19:05.48 | foxlit | A year's worth of function with different naming conventions is... annoying. |
19:05.53 | foxlit | *plural |
19:06.29 | jme | does blizz's QA staff include GM's? or is that separate? |
19:07.00 | zenzelezz | fairly sure they're separate |
19:07.43 | foxlit | GMs are more of a customer support thing? |
19:07.51 | foxlit | While QA is probably more technical. |
19:07.57 | jme | yeah, good point, i'm not thinking |
19:08.21 | zenzelezz | good luck Lopep... peppy |
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19:08.56 | foxlit | ~seen Cide |
19:09.06 | purl | cide is currently on #wowi-lounge (2h 42m 4s). Has said a total of 1 messages. Is idling for 1h 48m 30s, last said: 'yep, that's what it's for'. |
19:09.27 | foxlit | Cide: ping |
19:09.43 | Cide | pong |
19:09.58 | foxlit | Do you still maintain CT_RaidAssist to some degree? :) |
19:10.12 | cog|work | He's the C in CT :P |
19:10.42 | foxlit | Obviously, but I wouldn't want to burden him with feature requests if he's not interested :) |
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19:11.05 | Cide | it's maintained but we're not really adding features at this point |
19:12.15 | foxlit | It's not a huge one - I want a way to force a broadcast of a CD message through the comm protocol. |
19:12.41 | foxlit | ("Is Rebirth up? You'll never know until the druid casts it") |
19:13.30 | TS|Skrom | You kow I've never really been a big gun person. Never really interested me. |
19:13.47 | Saint-N | who you calling a kow? |
19:13.49 | foxlit | (CTRA sends CD (id) (minutesleft) if it detects a spell it tracks cooldown for being cast, but there's no way (as far as I can see) to actually ask it whether a spell is up) |
19:14.00 | TS|Skrom | But I'm reading about this one developed by H&K called G11, neat thing puts out a burst of 3 bullets before you even feel any recoil ^^ |
19:14.04 | TS|Skrom | that's pretty darned cool |
19:14.19 | Saint-N | i love the old german glock(sorta) guns |
19:14.23 | Saint-N | with the wood casings |
19:15.10 | ScytheBlade1 | Whoo, there's a voice tab now in the Sound & Voice Settings |
19:15.16 | ScytheBlade1 | That is seemingly visible by default |
19:15.39 | TS|Skrom | someone who knows guns want to tell me what the term "cook-off" means? |
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19:16.51 | Lunessa | It means Ammo got too hot and fired. |
19:16.53 | jme | ScytheBlade1: patch 2.2 went live? |
19:17.07 | ScytheBlade1 | jme, on the PTR |
19:17.18 | jme | ScytheBlade1: oh |
19:17.20 | TS|Skrom | so avoiding cook off is a good thing when making a gun XD |
19:17.47 | TS|Skrom | I'd guess your magazine size would be limited by your cook off threshold, don't wanna hold more bullets then you can safely shoot? |
19:17.51 | Lunessa | Yes, very much so. |
19:18.21 | Lunessa | You don't want to have anything that generates enough heat to ignite the primer. |
19:18.29 | ScytheBlade1 | Or it's not enabled by default |
19:18.42 | ScytheBlade1 | As soon as you do anything which might activate the voice chat, it disappears |
19:18.47 | TS|Skrom | http://www.hkpro.com/g11lmg.htm "no cook-off after 300 rounds" |
19:18.54 | TS|Skrom | that's quite a bit! |
19:19.04 | Saint-N | hrm |
19:19.09 | jme | ScytheBlade1: heh |
19:19.18 | Saint-N | why isnt there a linux distro that has everything i want and doesnt suck |
19:19.25 | Saint-N | out of the box that is |
19:19.28 | jme | Saint-N: Ubuntu! |
19:19.32 | Kaydeethree | it's called rolling your own |
19:19.35 | deltron | TS|Skrom: wow that thing is HUEG |
19:19.36 | Kaydeethree | that's the whole freaking point |
19:19.36 | ScytheBlade1 | Saint-N, that's why I roll Gentoo. |
19:19.37 | Saint-N | heh yeah jay |
19:19.41 | deltron | Saint-N: ubuntu! |
19:19.42 | Saint-N | err kay |
19:19.43 | jme | ugh, gentoo |
19:19.49 | Saint-N | ubuntu makes babies cry |
19:19.55 | deltron | gentoo is great if you like stuff broken all the time |
19:19.58 | ScytheBlade1 | ugh, ubuntu |
19:19.58 | ScytheBlade1 | lol |
19:20.05 | ScytheBlade1 | Like what? |
19:20.05 | jme | dude, just get a mac, use OSX |
19:20.06 | jme | ;) |
19:20.10 | Saint-N | im flip flopping between mepis and fedora right now |
19:20.34 | Saint-N | the day i pay more than a car for a laptop is a sad sad day |
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19:20.42 | Saint-N | i love macs but i will NEVER buy one |
19:20.47 | Saint-N | never ever ever |
19:21.07 | foxlit | Why? :) |
19:21.11 | jme | i use one daily |
19:21.15 | jme | for everything... including wow |
19:21.19 | Saint-N | mostly because they dont deserve the price tag attached to them |
19:21.29 | foxlit | jme: Full screen glow enabled? |
19:21.34 | Saint-N | same reason i refuse to buy an ipod or iphone |
19:21.50 | foxlit | The design deserves the price tag, in most situations |
19:21.58 | Saint-N | not to me it doesnt |
19:22.00 | jme | foxlit: in wow or osx? |
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19:22.04 | foxlit | wow |
19:22.07 | jme | i think so |
19:22.17 | jme | foxlit: i have a macbook pro too, heh |
19:22.17 | foxlit | Hm, mine chokes, which is odd |
19:22.32 | AnduinLothar | not appreciating design and ease of use is why you can't find a *nix you like |
19:22.55 | AnduinLothar | if you did, you wouldn't bother looking |
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19:23.15 | Saint-N | laugh |
19:23.19 | Saint-N | nah im just lazy |
19:23.31 | Saint-N | and i figurethat enough linux people have already done the work for what i want |
19:23.32 | AnduinLothar | not lazy enough |
19:23.34 | foxlit | Going from osx to xp is becoming painful |
19:23.56 | jme | foxlit: it's a trap |
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19:24.02 | TS|Skrom | hrm. I think I'm going to play X-Com tonight |
19:24.05 | foxlit | Wru, expose? |
19:24.06 | MatthewS | foxlit: isnt that the wrong progression? |
19:24.07 | TS|Skrom | that sounds like fun |
19:24.22 | jme | MatthewS: exactly |
19:24.36 | jme | it is against the natural order of things |
19:24.49 | foxlit | It is, it is. |
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19:25.45 | jme | i like how we all hang out in the same channels, yet we carry on three different conversations in each channel with the same people |
19:26.11 | jme | heh |
19:26.26 | Srosh | Do not think about it too much, it could make the universe collapse. Too many paradaxons. |
19:28.48 | Lunessa | ... If sir would care to order drinks, the Universe will explode later for your pleasure. |
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19:40.29 | Lunessa | ... Wow, Hitchhikers quotes kill IRC |
19:40.48 | zenzelezz | how so? |
19:41.21 | cog|work | I saw someone with XLII tattooed on their neck |
19:41.29 | zenzelezz | lol |
19:42.42 | Lunessa | 11 minutes of nothing... right after my quote. Enough to give a guy a complex. |
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19:43.07 | cog|work | you get used to it |
19:43.11 | MatthewS | cog: boo |
19:43.16 | Lunessa | cog|work: You made a cryptic reference to 2.4 in a thread about damage meters type addons. Spill |
19:43.17 | cog|work | aaah! |
19:44.08 | Saint-N | cogs a spy! |
19:44.14 | cog|work | Lunessa: the new combat log they announced at blizzcon |
19:44.32 | cog|work | No more taking apart strings |
19:44.45 | cog|work | plus GUIDs |
19:44.50 | Saint-N | gasp! |
19:44.55 | cog|work | should make damage & threat meters much more accurate |
19:45.05 | Lunessa | ... schwing! |
19:45.13 | ScytheBlade1 | Wait, what? GUIDs? |
19:45.14 | Saint-N | im perplexed by the bossmods comment though |
19:45.21 | Saint-N | why would they build in boss mods |
19:45.38 | cog|work | I'm really pissed Warcraft Radio didn't record the Q&A session |
19:45.41 | Saint-N | that seems to be counter productive to making new and exciting and puzzling bosses |
19:45.44 | cog|work | did anyone else do one? |
19:45.49 | zenzelezz | isn't there already boss-mod-ish stuff in the game? Like the "Eye of Sartuul focuses intently." and whatever |
19:45.57 | ScytheBlade1 | lol @ Eye |
19:46.02 | Saint-N | its only in say ofrmat that ive noticed |
19:46.02 | ScytheBlade1 | It's too bad I can't turn that off |
19:46.22 | Saint-N | we4 should have a "no mods" day |
19:46.25 | zenzelezz | what more do you want Saint-N? |
19:46.30 | [dRaCo] | keep it realistic: "Evil Eye of Evilness casts Evil Blast of Killing." |
19:46.43 | Saint-N | zenzelezz: nothing, thats my point to seei9ng blizz adding boss mod type stuff as silly |
19:46.49 | zenzelezz | aha |
19:47.10 | ScytheBlade1 | I think we actually had clarification of that in channel |
19:47.19 | ScytheBlade1 | Things like cyclic fears was the example |
19:47.34 | zenzelezz | cyclic fears? |
19:47.45 | ScytheBlade1 | Fears that happen every X seconds |
19:47.52 | ScytheBlade1 | Not things like phase transitions, etc |
19:48.12 | End | phase transitions are often based on percentage anyways |
19:48.20 | End | (of health) |
19:48.25 | ScytheBlade1 | Indeed |
19:48.53 | Cide | or time |
19:49.07 | zenzelezz | are there (m)any cyclic fears in the fights now? |
19:49.12 | End | yeah, a timer works easily for time |
19:49.19 | End | not very well for a percentage of hp though |
19:49.30 | ScytheBlade1 | Nightbane |
19:49.35 | ScytheBlade1 | That's the only one I know of, off the top of my head |
19:49.54 | zenzelezz | always seemed random to me, but I'm sort of busy during that fight :-) The cast bar lets me know anyway |
19:50.04 | Srosh | <cog|work> I'm really pissed Warcraft Radio didn't record the Q&A session <--- Ye, me too. Don't know of any transcripts, either. =( |
19:50.41 | ScytheBlade1 | It's consistent enough that you can get it 100% of the time by just chain casting fear ward |
19:51.01 | zenzelezz | sod fear ward =) (unless you don't use warrior tank) |
19:51.02 | AnduinLothar | the Q&A usually got the best info |
19:51.07 | AnduinLothar | like at the class panel |
19:51.21 | ScytheBlade1 | Druid tank |
19:51.21 | zenzelezz | actually fear ward has come in handy... we have a druid that seems to always manage to die if he gets feared |
19:51.23 | zenzelezz | and he did |
19:51.26 | cog|work | MatthewS: http://www.originalpancakehouse.com/phloc_ca.html :) |
19:51.42 | Srosh | Especially since the UI panel mostly consisted of a "how-to-do-lua-mods-for-wow". =/ |
19:51.50 | ScytheBlade1 | Noooooooo |
19:51.51 | ScytheBlade1 | :/ |
19:51.54 | ScytheBlade1 | I would have loved that |
19:51.58 | Srosh | Which wasn't interesting to most there. |
19:52.13 | AnduinLothar | yeah, don't know why they did that |
19:52.21 | End | to annoy you |
19:52.22 | End | and me |
19:52.23 | Srosh | Well, that part you can watch. It's been recorded by WoWRadio. |
19:52.23 | End | and all of us |
19:53.07 | Srosh | And then, for no apparent reason, they stopped and didn't record the Q&A part. |
19:53.30 | AnduinLothar | i was gonna badger them as to why ChatScroll was never included even tho it was like the first mod made in wow beta and is still used, but when i asked slouken he said it'd never come up, lol |
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19:53.42 | foxlit | I think they just run out of video space |
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19:54.05 | foxlit | Seems that most wcradio panel videos cut at odd times |
19:54.27 | Thunder_Child | if guiily and i had goten there we would have asked when they were gonna ace the default UI |
19:54.44 | ckknight | lol |
19:54.58 | Saint-N | hah |
19:55.37 | ckknight | in all honesty, if I ever end up working on a UI department for an MMO (fingers crossed), the addon API would probably be very Ace-like |
19:55.44 | Thunder_Child | we asked it later at lunch, cair started hitting guilly |
19:55.53 | ckknight | that is, if it's a new game, not an existing game like WoW |
19:55.55 | Saint-N | ckk did you apply to the blizz spot? |
19:55.58 | ckknight | not yet |
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19:56.03 | ckknight | I applied for a spot in Texas |
19:56.04 | Saint-N | you should |
19:56.05 | Thunder_Child | and slouken just looked poleaxed |
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19:56.32 | End | slouken doesn't write that much lua anyways *wink* |
19:56.38 | End | most of his code is backend |
19:56.47 | Lunessa | ckknight: Where in Texas, Austin? |
19:56.52 | ckknight | yea |
19:56.54 | Saint-N | end: ive heard that |
19:56.59 | Saint-N | wooooOOOOOoooooooooo |
19:57.10 | Lunessa | If you get hired, let me know. I know the city pretty well. |
19:57.14 | ckknight | Lunessa: cool |
19:57.26 | jme | she'll get you all the cool hookups |
19:57.29 | ckknight | yea, I'll definitely take you up on the offer if that happens |
19:57.44 | Lunessa | Hah... Lunessa is very male. |
19:57.47 | jme | oh |
19:57.50 | jme | :( |
19:58.02 | Saint-N | well he'll still get you all the hookups |
19:58.02 | Lunessa | But it's ok. I like Mac OS X |
19:58.06 | jme | lol |
19:58.07 | Mr_Rabies2 | dammit |
19:58.07 | ckknight | lol, me too |
19:58.10 | Saint-N | just not the type you'd prolly want ;) |
19:58.13 | Mr_Rabies2 | trying to find how how to gem up my gear |
19:58.14 | Mr_Rabies2 | :[ |
19:58.15 | jme | i use osx daily |
19:58.20 | ckknight | http://www.albinoblacksheep.com/flash/apple |
19:58.22 | Mr_Rabies2 | it's becoming difficult to figure out a way to do it well |
19:58.34 | [dRaCo] | Mr_Rabies2: class? meta gems? |
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19:58.47 | Lunessa | Actually, I know a lot of people in Austin, and I'm sure some of them could "hook you up" with just about anything... |
19:58.56 | End | the only part that I can see being a problem are meta gems |
19:58.56 | jme | Lunessa: sorry, for some reason the nick didn't click as being male |
19:58.59 | cog|work | My sister-in-law just moved to Spring, texas |
19:59.02 | Mr_Rabies2 | druid, tanking gems, draco |
19:59.16 | Mr_Rabies2 | i need at least 2 of each primary color to activate my meta gem and it's becoming difficult |
19:59.31 | ckknight | in all honesty, I want out of the state I'm in and if I were to get a dev job, that'd just sweeten the deal immensely |
19:59.34 | Mr_Rabies2 | because i'm way over max def rating |
19:59.38 | Lunessa | cog|work: Spring is closer to me here in Houston. |
19:59.43 | Mr_Rabies2 | i'm at 433 and only need 415 |
20:00.02 | jme | Mr_Rabies2: trade some def for stam? |
20:00.11 | End | for red you could throw in +dodge I guess...dunno what you'll do for yellow though, since only tanking stat there is defense |
20:00.15 | cog|work | texas is texas |
20:00.18 | End | jme: he needs different colors |
20:00.19 | Mr_Rabies2 | i can't, i'll lose too many yellow gems, jme |
20:00.22 | jme | End: ah |
20:00.37 | End | I guess you could go stam/crit |
20:00.40 | Lunessa | ckknight: Well, I know Austin, Houston and Dallas pretty well. And I'll happily show you around. |
20:00.44 | End | for green |
20:00.47 | Mr_Rabies2 | hit rating wouldn't hurt i guess |
20:00.47 | End | or agi/stam for purple |
20:01.00 | End | oh, yeah, that'd probably be good |
20:01.01 | ckknight | Lunessa: I wanna go see the basement of the Alamo |
20:01.03 | Lunessa | cog|work: Ya'll ain't from around here. |
20:01.11 | End | missing that first hit can suck :P |
20:01.24 | [dRaCo] | str/stamina, crit/stamina, agi/stamina |
20:01.27 | cog|work | :P |
20:01.31 | Lunessa | (( I grew up in Los Angeles, and now I live in Houston. Scary enough )) |
20:01.39 | buu | Lunessa: Woo, texas represent. |
20:01.53 | buu | Lunessa: Hilariously, I grew up in Houston and now live in LA. |
20:01.55 | Lunessa | ckknight: That's San Antonio, and it's closer to Austin than Houston. |
20:01.59 | jme | pronounced "repruhzent" |
20:02.02 | Saint-N | in L.A a cowboy hat and boots are amusing at best... in houston it's a sad sad truth ;P |
20:02.12 | Lunessa | buu: A guildee of mine, who has the same first name as I did the same thing. |
20:02.15 | ckknight | Lunessa: it's a Peewee's Big Adventure reference |
20:02.15 | buu | Saint-N: It's a fashion choice. |
20:02.26 | Saint-N | buu: lies! |
20:02.27 | buu | Lunessa: Nice. |
20:02.33 | Saint-N | nobody chooses that fashion |
20:02.33 | Saint-N | ! |
20:02.36 | ckknight | cowboy hats are the only hats I can wear. |
20:02.46 | Lunessa | brb. Icecream |
20:02.47 | [dRaCo] | maybe hit/agi |
20:02.48 | ckknight | everything else just looks funky on me |
20:02.51 | Saint-N | ckknight: thats only because the top of your skull never rounded out ;P |
20:02.57 | ckknight | nah, it's cause my nose is too big |
20:03.11 | Saint-N | so you look like a vulture from far side? |
20:03.19 | jme | head is too wide for hats or something |
20:03.22 | jme | i hate wearing them |
20:03.25 | Saint-N | hey everybody look at me, im a cowboy, howdy howdy howdy |
20:03.40 | jme | s/head/my head |
20:04.12 | buu | Saint-N: you're just jealous. |
20:04.18 | Saint-N | of what? |
20:04.22 | Mr_Rabies2 | end: halp http://armory.worldofwarcraft.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Llane&n=Raybeez |
20:04.30 | buu | Saint-N: Cowboy hats. |
20:04.33 | Saint-N | i lived for 10 years in calgary ;P |
20:04.37 | Mr_Rabies2 | i need to lose some defense and get some stam/agi/hit rating :x |
20:04.50 | ckknight | Saint-N: I had a satire series where I pretended to be southern and wore a cowboy hat, posted up on youtube |
20:05.03 | Saint-N | yeah ihate cowboyhats, always coming over here and taking jobs away from good american ballcaps |
20:05.05 | Saint-N | ;) |
20:05.23 | Saint-N | ckknight: heh nice |
20:05.25 | End | hmm |
20:05.58 | ckknight | also, for some reason, I actually enjoy country music |
20:06.03 | ckknight | I used to hate it out of peer pressure |
20:06.07 | ckknight | then realized it wasn't so bad |
20:06.21 | Mr_Rabies2 | i live in the south ckknight, so i've got a lot of reason to hate it :P |
20:06.28 | ckknight | lol |
20:06.34 | Mr_Rabies2 | i also hate pop and emo-pop |
20:06.44 | Mr_Rabies2 | and country's pretty much merged with regular pop these days |
20:06.48 | Saint-N | there are only two good things about country music... faith hill(the person not the music) and shania twains body. ;) |
20:07.01 | ScytheBlade1 | cog needs to update his thread :P |
20:07.08 | Mr_Rabies2 | there's usually a small bit of guitar that lets you know it's country, but otherwise it's the same old poppy sound |
20:07.21 | Saint-N | yeah i dont like pop music either |
20:07.42 | ckknight | yea, I'd do Shania Twain |
20:07.53 | Saint-N | wonder if i should go see manson and slayer at the garden next month |
20:07.56 | Mr_Rabies2 | the only pop i like is jpop to an extent |
20:08.02 | Mr_Rabies2 | despite how annoying it is |
20:08.04 | End | Mr_Rabies2: can you afford blue quality gems? |
20:08.09 | Mr_Rabies2 | yeah, probably |
20:08.24 | Mr_Rabies2 | depends on the gem |
20:08.33 | End | for chest piece, for example, you could pop in two rigid dawnstones and a solid star of elune |
20:08.37 | End | dawnstones tend to go cheap though |
20:08.39 | Mr_Rabies2 | lemme see |
20:08.46 | End | (that'd give you a pretty decent about of hit) |
20:08.47 | Mr_Rabies2 | i have a regular dawnstone so that saves me some money |
20:09.00 | Mr_Rabies2 | i may put a dawnstone in the hat because i use it for DPS too |
20:09.09 | End | here's the thing though: if you have to, don't be afraid to lose socket bonuses |
20:09.14 | Mr_Rabies2 | yeah i know |
20:09.31 | Saint-N | i wish they had stolen the swocketting from diablo |
20:09.34 | Saint-N | socketting |
20:09.37 | End | actually, you should probably switch gems in your pants first though ;p |
20:09.43 | Mr_Rabies2 | while 10 dodge rating is okay |
20:09.45 | Saint-N | where combos of certain things do different effects and whatnot |
20:09.50 | Mr_Rabies2 | i can do better |
20:09.53 | End | (yeech, vendor gems!) |
20:09.54 | buu | Saint-N: It made the white items a lot more interesting. |
20:10.07 | Mr_Rabies2 | end, i just popped em in to activate my meta gem |
20:10.09 | Saint-N | and a lot more fun too |
20:10.13 | End | ah |
20:10.18 | Mr_Rabies2 | i think |
20:10.28 | Mr_Rabies2 | that and i'm a cheap bastard |
20:10.33 | Mr_Rabies2 | these things are far too complicated though |
20:10.36 | End | if you have a jewelcrafter in your guild, he or she probably has like 10 billion green quality gems, so that'd even be better |
20:10.42 | End | than vendor gems |
20:10.46 | Mr_Rabies2 | i don't much feel like spending 500g on enchanting my blue gear :[ |
20:10.51 | Mr_Rabies2 | or more |
20:11.02 | Mr_Rabies2 | probably more since bright living rubies go for ~80-100g |
20:11.20 | End | my server goes about half the price |
20:11.30 | End | how much are star of elunes? |
20:11.33 | Mr_Rabies2 | gems are massively expensive |
20:11.34 | Mr_Rabies2 | i dunno |
20:11.36 | Mr_Rabies2 | lemme check |
20:11.39 | End | probably a lot more :P |
20:12.06 | End | talasites are cheap, but unfortunately that doesn't help you if you are capped on defense |
20:12.18 | End | dawnstones are pretty good too, and hit is nice to have |
20:12.30 | End | (so that'd actually be useful) |
20:12.53 | Antiarc|Work | I usually just buy raw gems and have a guildie cut them for me |
20:12.57 | Antiarc|Work | Usually ends up about 20% cheaper |
20:13.02 | Antiarc|Work | 18g dawnstones for the win |
20:13.14 | Mr_Rabies2 | lemme see how much dawnstones go for |
20:13.19 | Mr_Rabies2 | enchants are even more expensive |
20:13.23 | Antiarc|Work | My rule is that I only put blue gems in stuff that I don't expect to replace quickly. |
20:13.30 | zenzelezz | I seem to find Dawnstones and Talasites all the time, but I never use those myself :-| |
20:13.33 | Antiarc|Work | Otherwise, the 1.5g greens are good enough |
20:13.48 | End | on my realm, noble topazes and star of elunes usually you can't buy (off the AH at least) |
20:14.03 | Mr_Rabies2 | dawnstones go for 20-25g on my server |
20:14.09 | Mr_Rabies2 | uncut |
20:14.29 | End | yeah, I'd definitely go with green quality if you can't afford or don't want to buy better |
20:14.37 | Mr_Rabies2 | stars of elune are 50g a piece uncut |
20:14.50 | End | interesting |
20:14.55 | End | it's more expensive on my server |
20:15.04 | End | for stars of elunes I mean |
20:16.04 | Mr_Rabies2 | yeah i think i'll get a dawnstone cut and a bunch of moonstones |
20:16.05 | End | anyways, I have 60 of each color of green quality gem :P |
20:16.14 | Mr_Rabies2 | because i have about 10 moonstones |
20:16.38 | End | everyone once in a while I make rings out of them and get someone to disenchant them, but then like two weeks later I'm full on gems again |
20:17.07 | End | (er, s/everyone/every/) |
20:18.13 | Lunessa | End: My warlock has the same problem. I keep about 100 of each uncommon around to cut free for guildees. Keeping it to JUST that number is hard. |
20:18.26 | End | I visit the vendor a lot |
20:18.48 | End | the vendor has a lot of dust and green gems in stock I'd imagine ;p |
20:19.32 | End | (and 3 stacks of each color is specific: that and one blue quality stack is how much a gem bag can hold of all the colors) |
20:20.03 | zenzelezz | I'm like that with bandages |
20:20.07 | zenzelezz | if I go below 100 I get worried |
20:20.34 | End | I'm not worried about gems, although I do like to specific number of bandages too |
20:20.44 | End | (although for me it's only 40 bandages) |
20:20.56 | End | although |
20:21.04 | End | I have another 80ish bandages in the bank |
20:21.45 | zenzelezz | what class are you? |
20:22.13 | End | warlock |
20:22.31 | zenzelezz | aha =) I'm a warrior, bandaging is my primary means of healing, heh |
20:22.40 | zenzelezz | I've found myself bandaging the ranged people on Hydross |
20:22.45 | End | drain life ftw :P |
20:22.53 | End | I -do- use bandages sometimes though |
20:23.25 | Lunessa | On my Shaman, my backpack is entirely filled with "essential" items like totems, spell reagents, mounts, mining pick and skinning knife. It's silly. |
20:23.25 | End | although if I -can- use drain life, I'm probably better off doing so (although bandages are useful if you are silenced, since you can't do jack anyways) |
20:23.57 | Lunessa | Pet commands are not affected by silence. :P |
20:24.02 | zenzelezz | there are some items I just never leave out of my bags... mining pick, blacksmith hammer, two non-combat pets that I never use, fishing hat + rod, 5+ stacks of bandages (usually 8+) |
20:24.16 | End | fine, I'll make my imp run around |
20:24.24 | Lunessa | haha. |
20:24.27 | End | I'm sure he'll do a lot of damage too |
20:24.33 | Lunessa | My warlock is Demonology spec. |
20:24.41 | End | <--- Affliction |
20:25.43 | End | Funny thing about imps though: I have his firebolt turned off, but if he's on agressive for some strange reason, the guards will still attack me |
20:25.57 | End | So apparently my imp running around not being able to kill people gets me killed ;p |
20:26.07 | zenzelezz | he's whispering insults at them |
20:26.09 | End | lol |
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20:29.26 | Lunessa | You gotta watch those imps. They don't have your best interest at heart. |
20:29.34 | Lunessa | It's not in their contract. |
20:29.35 | zenzelezz | I'm too distracted today... so far I've wrangled two rays, killed five |
20:30.10 | jme | i like the imp in a ball |
20:30.32 | End | imp ina ball? |
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20:30.45 | End | oh |
20:30.48 | End | loot card |
20:30.53 | jme | http://www.wowhead.com/?item=32542 |
20:30.55 | End | from the trading card game |
20:31.10 | End | yeah, that's what I was just looking at :P |
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20:39.07 | Saint-N | for anyone not in wowace zeeg needs someone to test the new curse ticket system |
20:39.21 | Saint-N | if you're hosting an addon there that is i believe |
20:39.31 | zenzelezz | ticket system? |
20:39.54 | Saint-N | ask him |
20:40.13 | Saint-N | im assuming a bug submission type thingy instead of just cluttering the comments |
20:41.57 | leethal | "%s's %s drains %d %s from you. %s gains %d %s." -- in case someone gains less/more mana than they drain from the mob they drain? |
20:42.54 | zenzelezz | any mobs or spells that drain one stat but give another? |
20:44.33 | End | not that I know of, but it's probably coded so it could be different /shrug |
20:46.19 | End | and I believe drain life still "heals" if you are at full health |
20:48.13 | leethal | hmm |
20:51.33 | Cide | pretty sure that's it, yes |
20:59.43 | leethal | mkay =) |
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21:38.48 | leethal | where's that vendor on the PTRs that sells the old AQ/BWL/Wootevah patters? |
21:40.28 | leethal | hmm, it's spread all over the place it seems, nvm |
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21:51.31 | zenzelezz | http://www.worldofraids.com/ -- I like the first post |
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22:01.03 | Thunder_Child | ckknight ping |
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22:08.28 | ckknight | pong |
22:09.43 | Thunder_Child | ckknight, parrot reports the dmg feedback from SW:D as unknown |
22:10.07 | ckknight | yea, cause the combat log doesn't have where it comes from |
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22:11.14 | Thunder_Child | ok |
22:13.29 | clad|afk | whats the soup de jour re: collapsing minimap buttons under a single one, or down to a bar, or something |
22:13.36 | Lopeppeppy | Cogwheel.... *blink* That's a long time, don't hold yer breath. |
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22:15.29 | Lopeppeppy | MiniMapBagButton? I think that's something similar to the name, Cladhaire, but not 100% on it. |
22:16.34 | clad|afk | thanks |
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22:24.16 | Lunessa | ... I feel a major case of forum ennui. |
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22:24.59 | Lopeppeppy | No hot debates, nothing much to say... *le sigh* |
22:25.23 | |Jelly| | Want me to fix that? |
22:25.25 | Lunessa | Mostly its the same 12 questions we've been answering for moths. |
22:26.37 | Lopeppeppy | Cut and paste gets boring after a while. |
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22:28.35 | Shirik | Lopeppeppy: You suck. Discuss. |
22:28.59 | Lopeppeppy | "I said, just fix the damn thing and leave my private life out of it, okay pal?" :P |
22:29.57 | Lunessa | I could see the anchor in her eye. |
22:30.08 | Shirik | damn |
22:30.16 | Shirik | Lou Dobbs is pissed |
22:30.23 | ckknight_ | Shirik: howso? |
22:30.28 | Lunessa | Lou Dobbs is always pissed. |
22:30.41 | Shirik | I dunno I'm not entirely watching |
22:30.48 | Lunessa | that's his schtik. |
22:31.07 | Shirik | but he was not only beating Bush into the ground, he was stomping on his head with cleats |
22:31.11 | Lopeppeppy | If you're not watching, how do you know he's pissed? |
22:31.39 | Shirik | because I heard about one sentence and the tone of his voice |
22:32.41 | Lunessa | Yelling about the incompetency, vileness, or evil machinations of elected officials gets ratings. I tend to discount all things said by media personalities as "what they do to make a living." |
22:32.52 | Lopeppeppy | Media is acting is media. |
22:33.40 | Shirik | no, media is spinning politics to gain attention of viewers |
22:33.49 | Lunessa | Yeah, it doesn't matter if it's true or false. It only matters if it keeps them employed. |
22:33.52 | Shirik | however not everyone takes the route of "let's bash the president into the ground with a baseball bat" |
22:34.05 | Shirik | not that I have a problem with it |
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22:36.36 | Shirik | anyone here use bankofamerica? |
22:37.11 | Lunessa | Not since '93 when mysterious fees caused me to overdraft by about $500. |
22:37.38 | Shirik | rofl |
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22:39.06 | Lunessa | (( My local bank was acquired by them, fee structure changed, and several months of back fees were applied to my account all at once. It was.. painful and non-refundable. )) |
22:39.15 | cog|work | O.o |
22:40.33 | Lunessa | So, no, I don't use them anymore. I prefer Wells Fargo or a credit union. |
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22:42.04 | cog|work | I had similar experiences with Wells Fargo |
22:42.25 | |Jelly| | Same, Cog. |
22:42.34 | cog|work | I switched to US Bank and haven't regretted it |
22:42.37 | Mr_Rabies2 | yawn |
22:42.39 | Mr_Rabies2 | so bored :( |
22:42.40 | Mr_Rabies2 | nothing to do |
22:43.02 | Mr_Rabies2 | tired of farming ogrila rep, no one is running any instances :/ |
22:43.15 | Lunessa | Understood. In a system millions of people large, even a 0.001% error rate is large. |
22:43.36 | Mr_Rabies2 | like in office space |
22:43.49 | Mr_Rabies2 | cutting off those fractions of a cent :o |
22:44.09 | cog|work | Wells fargo dosen't (or didn't) offer any free checking without direct deposit. When I went to close my account (after already opening the one at US Bank) I told them that's the reason why and they said they could've given me a free checking account :\ |
22:44.25 | cog|work | (I had previously had direct deposit but changed jobs) |
22:44.28 | Lunessa | That's based on an event that actually happened Mr_Rabies. |
22:45.06 | Lunessa | cog|work: Yeah, bank will negotiate a lot to keep customers, and they all love direct deposit. |
22:45.09 | Mr_Rabies2 | yeah i seem to remember hearing something like that |
22:45.40 | cog|work | I'm still happy I switched though... they have a branch in one of the grocery stores I frequent in between home & work |
22:46.33 | Lunessa | Mr_Rabies sometime in the late 70s early 80s. Details are hazy, but a guy noticed that those fractions weren't going anywhere, then made the system cut a really big check based on the money left over from rounding errors to some charity. |
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22:51.58 | Lunessa | Sadly I'm not turning up anything using google or snopes. |
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23:01.18 | Shirik | I just bitched someone out in guild chat |
23:01.21 | Shirik | first time I did that in a long time |
23:01.32 | |Jelly| | Orly? |
23:02.06 | Shirik | Someone was claiming there was an addon that would allow you to "Cheat" in BGs (pick up the flag immediately, drop the flag and pick it back up, etc.) |
23:02.21 | Shirik | So I immediately said that's impossible |
23:02.44 | Shirik | "You didn't even let me finish" "I don't care" then he continued to try to defend himself while I said "and?" |
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23:03.06 | Valaron|Work | I once had to tell a guildie that a hack is not a mod. |
23:03.09 | Shirik | And at the end I finished with a "This is the exact reason why people want to remove addons from the game, because of people like you that don't know how addons work and think they give unfair advantages" |
23:04.03 | Shirik | Oh, and "Stop making crap up" |
23:05.14 | Lunessa | Hah. See I'd have said, "Stop being stupid, go do the research, and STFU." |
23:06.03 | Shirik | That's what I said at first |
23:06.11 | Shirik | (The "Stop making crap up" was at the beginning) |
23:06.17 | Shirik | but he insisted on defending himself, so I let him continue |
23:06.30 | Shirik | then I ended more annoyed than I started |
23:06.50 | Lunessa | Yeah, guildees don't argue too often with me. I have a short temper and access to /gkick |
23:07.16 | Shirik | We usually get along |
23:07.28 | Lunessa | Knowing both of those facts, I am amazingly restrained on a daily basis, but I don't tolerate fools for long. |
23:07.29 | Shirik | but when someone says something stupid, they deserve the punishment |
23:07.36 | |Jelly| | I just had a STFU rank. |
23:07.43 | Shirik | oh we do too |
23:07.47 | Shirik | but it's put a bit more nicely |
23:07.59 | Shirik | But I tend to use that when I'm just joking, not seriously annoyed :P |
23:08.15 | Lunessa | My guild has one real rule, "Don't act like a jerk." |
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23:08.32 | Lunessa | Once you cross the "jerk" line, I just kick ya. :P |
23:08.43 | Lunessa | It's happened very few times. |
23:09.44 | art3mis | wow i wouldt be in yer guild long if at all ;P |
23:10.36 | bleeter | random thought for the day: has anyone seen a numerologist who specialises in binary, octal or hexadecimal readings? |
23:10.51 | art3mis | laughno |
23:11.10 | Shirik | I wouldn't find it so far fetched |
23:11.12 | Shirik | but no |
23:11.35 | Shirik | Moving back and forth between bases can sometimes get confusing if you're doing huge calculations |
23:11.40 | art3mis | to imagine that those con artists would be able to think and process in any of those forms seems a tad "odd" |
23:12.00 | art3mis | you're talking the psychic type right? |
23:12.05 | art3mis | or just wierdo math people? |
23:12.08 | Shirik | uh |
23:12.13 | Shirik | I was just thinking math... |
23:12.22 | art3mis | heh i immediately thought of the other type |
23:12.34 | art3mis | i know a guy who does most of his math in hex |
23:12.47 | art3mis | makes for some really odd "common formulas" |
23:13.00 | art3mis | if you're trained decimal that is |
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23:13.47 | Shirik | heh |
23:13.53 | Shirik | pi in hex |
23:14.32 | art3mis | heh try reading simple physics stuff like f=ma when the values are hex ;) |
23:14.57 | art3mis | specially when you're solving for a or m ;P |
23:15.03 | art3mis | the steps look wierd ;P |
23:15.20 | Lunessa | bah, I always convert octal or binary to dcimal, 'cause it's easier on my brain. |
23:15.40 | art3mis | sweet |
23:15.55 | art3mis | someone converted a ps3 and loaded linux on it for the DARPA ubran challenge |
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23:17.08 | Antiarc|Work | http://blogs.zdnet.com/Ou/?p=653 |
23:17.33 | Lunessa | ... if one were to read the forum for my server you'd think it was a cesspool of worthless players and souless hate-mongers. |
23:18.04 | art3mis | and if we were to sit here and listen to you, we'd be right? |
23:20.18 | Lunessa | Yeah, you would be. :P |
23:20.23 | art3mis | www.rootly.com is my new fav rss feed site |
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23:33.57 | art3mis | its a good thing theres a [place like distro watch to monitor all the flavours of nix coming out |
23:34.24 | art3mis | although i suspect that 89% of them are "we didnt like the default colour scheme so we changed it and gave it a new name" |
23:41.26 | buu | I was reading random wow articles someplace and it said something like "2.3 might bring us the third 10 man instance.." |
23:41.29 | buu | Is there a second one? |
23:41.58 | Shirik | SSC? |
23:42.16 | |Jelly| | ZA? |
23:42.17 | buu | SSC isn't .. 25? |
23:42.23 | Shirik | I don't know, I don't run it |
23:42.34 | Thunder_Child | Zul'aman is the next 10-man |
23:42.49 | Thunder_Child | SSC is a 25-man |
23:43.08 | buu | Weirdoes. |
23:43.09 | Thunder_Child | there will be another 25-man The Sunwell (or something like that) |
23:43.18 | Shirik | really |
23:43.23 | Shirik | that should be interesting |
23:43.26 | buu | Yeah |
23:43.26 | buu | t7 |
23:43.29 | Thunder_Child | no |
23:43.29 | buu | Essentially. |
23:43.33 | Shirik | I don't care about the gear |
23:43.52 | Thunder_Child | they havent said if they are going to be putting in another dungeon set |
23:44.01 | Thunder_Child | just that the gear "will be better" |
23:44.15 | buu | Yes, it's technically not a tier. |
23:44.18 | buu | It's better than t6. |
23:44.22 | buu | Deal. |
23:44.32 | Thunder_Child | also they want to stick in a new 5-man if they can |
23:45.13 | buu | That would be pretty awesome. |
23:45.22 | buu | I'd just like to see some heroics with decent items =[ |
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23:45.53 | Shirik | $ wc -l ../Conspiracy/* |
23:45.54 | Shirik | 1977 total |
23:45.54 | Shirik | woot |
23:46.15 | Shirik | Judging by RDX, I'm 10% done :) |
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23:47.36 | Lunessa | Masochism Pinky, it's our new tool! |
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23:48.11 | TS|Skrom_ | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sc0hwCps1SI&mode=related&search= :O |
23:50.20 | Shirik | Lunessa scares me sometimes |
23:50.31 | Lunessa | Only sometimes? |
23:50.34 | Lunessa | I'm slipping |
23:50.54 | Shirik | sorry :( |
23:52.00 | art3mis | work faster shirik |
23:52.04 | Thunder_Child | kick it up a notch Lunessa |
23:52.22 | Lunessa | I'm reading realm, Guild Relations, and the UI forum and ... They make me want to lay waste to large swaths of the population. Something like killing the first born male child in every household. ... |
23:52.31 | Shirik | art3mis: Hopefully when I finish the root, I'll commit it and some others might be willing to code modules |
23:52.35 | art3mis | www.3cx.com <-- thats kind of neat |
23:52.37 | Shirik | which will really help things come together |
23:52.54 | art3mis | if i understood anything of your code that didnt make me claw at my eyes i'd help ;P |
23:53.10 | art3mis | its like reading C without any white space |
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23:53.22 | art3mis | cept i understand C sorta |
23:53.35 | Shirik | you haven't even read it yet |
23:53.37 | Shirik | how would you know |
23:53.44 | art3mis | okay the new one i havent |
23:53.59 | Shirik | you can't judge my code from RDX, you don't even know which of it's mine :P |
23:53.59 | art3mis | the old one that cid and veni worked off of gave me nightmares |
23:54.02 | Lunessa | bah, Shirik follows good coding practices and indents. |
23:54.05 | Shirik | and yes, it was... horrible |
23:54.31 | Shirik | here, I'll give you a sample, you can judge from that |
23:55.02 | Kyahx | Is it possible to search wowi using like http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/search.php?={searchText} |
23:55.08 | Kyahx | I know that that syntax is wrong |
23:55.19 | Kyahx | (Trying to make a firefox search plugin |
23:55.34 | art3mis | i think wowi uses numbers |
23:55.38 | art3mis | not names |
23:55.39 | Thunder_Child | Lunessa...i do belive that has already been done |
23:55.52 | Kyahx | =( |
23:55.54 | Lunessa | Why try to improve on the classics? |
23:56.35 | Lunessa | If I wanted to get a bit more recent, I could just put every 10th person to the sword as my mounted hordes ravaged the land. |
23:56.43 | art3mis | Call me Ishmael....dummy |
23:57.01 | Thunder_Child | there is something to be said for origionality |
23:57.06 | Thunder_Child | and spelling.... |
23:58.29 | art3mis | speelin iz uhvar ated |
23:58.37 | Lunessa | Everything old is new again. There is nothing new under the sun. What goes around comes around. ... Nuke the site from orbit. It's the only way to be sure. |
23:59.04 | art3mis | maybe luny is just trying to be a ipseter and go retro ;P |
23:59.08 | art3mis | hipster |
23:59.40 | Lunessa | Or it could be insulin inspired depression brought on by an over-indulgence in icecream. |