| 00:00.06 | abug | oh in that case I guess it will |
| 00:01.00 | dnmcgoy | example: a frame with a backdrop containing buttons.. |
| 00:01.13 | Corrodias | i did some armor math and figured i take as much damage from crushing blows as our paladin tank takes from regular ones |
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| 00:32.09 | Tierrie | howdy |
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| 00:43.12 | Shirik | rawr |
| 00:43.19 | Shirik | (15 minutes late @ Tierrie) |
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| 00:56.28 | Tierrie | heya Shirik :) |
| 00:56.32 | Tierrie | I got blizzcon photos! |
| 00:56.37 | Shirik | =( |
| 00:56.39 | Tierrie | a bunch of cairenn and one of her butt! |
| 00:56.42 | Shirik | don't show me |
| 00:56.46 | Tierrie | why? :( |
| 00:56.51 | Shirik | it will just make me more annoyed that I couldn't go |
| 00:58.13 | Wobwork | feh |
| 00:58.16 | Wobwork | at least you had a chance |
| 01:03.16 | mikma | http://youtube.com/watch?v=hJRe49V8jpc <3 |
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| 01:29.03 | Tem | hmm, anyone get any pictures of the combat log stuff or are there screenshots posted somewhere? |
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| 01:33.55 | Gnarfoz | Tierrie: anything interesting besides butts? :p |
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| 02:20.49 | Wobwork | Day... |
| 02:20.51 | Wobwork | moving... |
| 02:20.52 | Wobwork | so... |
| 02:20.55 | Wobwork | slowly... |
| 02:21.09 | Wobwork | wtb five hours from now |
| 02:25.05 | TC-Holding | Tierrie, with sloukens sig on it? |
| 02:29.02 | Thrae | Shirik: Whaaaaaaaat? |
| 02:29.07 | Shirik | oh hi |
| 02:29.17 | Shirik | you know how you have the !api thingy |
| 02:29.24 | Shirik | you should make one for events :) |
| 02:29.42 | Shirik | I don't have a major problem searching for functions on my own but I HATE looking for event docs :P |
| 02:30.45 | Thrae | Shirik: That's a good idea. I'll add that on my to-do list. |
| 02:31.00 | Shirik | :) It shouldn't be too difficult - one of the pages has every event on it |
| 02:31.09 | Shirik | or you could just pull up the alpha page |
| 02:31.29 | Shirik | whoo... /dump Conspiracy.Sync.Encode(Conspiracy, 1, {0,0,1}, {1,2,3}) finally works! |
| 02:31.37 | Shirik | now time to test nested tables (yuck) |
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| 02:52.59 | Thrae | This Warhammer Online beta key cost me 40k! |
| 02:54.06 | Wobwork | badum *tisch* |
| 02:59.07 | haste | *rimshot* |
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| 03:11.41 | Thunder_Child | ~moo |
| 03:11.42 | purl | mooooooooo! I am cow, hear me moo, I weigh twice as much as you. I am cow, eating grass, methane gas comes out my ass, or http://www.linuks.mine.nu/moo/ and http://www.riddleme.com/html/cow2.html |
| 03:13.20 | Nom- | omg, talk about griefing potential... |
| 03:13.21 | Nom- | Target is embraced by a silhouette of darkness for 6 seconds, corrupting any healing spells and effects cast upon or currently affecting the target to cause damage for 50% of their healing potential instead of restoring health. Any damage shields cast upon or currently affecting the target will also be instantly consumed, dealing 50% of their absorption potential in damage. Once afflicted with Unholy Embrace, the target cannot be afflicted with Unholy Embrac |
| 03:13.49 | Cide | meh |
| 03:15.51 | Nom- | The first thing Mages have to do in a raid is make water. There are Soulwells. Will there be a Muffin factory? |
| 03:15.54 | Nom- | Yes. Water and muffin creation like the Soulwell is incoming. |
| 03:15.57 | Nom- | LOl |
| 03:16.18 | Nom- | I just might consider making my mage my main raiding character if that comes in |
| 03:20.15 | Thunder_Child | Nom-, where is that snipit from? |
| 03:20.30 | Thunder_Child | the first part, not the second |
| 03:24.05 | Nom- | worldofaids |
| 03:24.12 | Nom- | http://www.worldofraids.com/ |
| 03:24.40 | Nom- | From the classes panel apparently |
| 03:25.46 | Shirik | night all |
| 03:27.46 | Mr_Rabies2 | <Nom-> worldofaids |
| 03:27.53 | Mr_Rabies2 | world of upanddown aids |
| 03:27.54 | Mr_Rabies2 | O_o |
| 03:28.39 | Nom- | O cam |
| 03:28.40 | Thunder_Child | i was at both classes panel...i dont rmeber then |
| 03:28.44 | Thunder_Child | remember* |
| 03:28.50 | Thunder_Child | that* |
| 03:29.01 | Nom- | I can't help it if your computer can't render my typo's incorrectly, Mr_Rabies2... |
| 03:29.57 | bleeter | screw muffin factory, i demand [Water Trough] and watch people bury their faces in it |
| 03:30.29 | bleeter | piggy noises optional |
| 03:31.25 | Nom- | From what they're indicating there, I'd say that's on the way |
| 03:31.31 | Nom- | They wouldn't just do it for food and not water |
| 03:31.58 | Nom- | They'll probably make it take some insane amount of mana, like Arcane Brilliance, but who cares? :) |
| 03:33.01 | Nom- | They better put more than 10 charges on it though |
| 03:33.09 | Nom- | Or at least no cooldown |
| 03:33.52 | Kyahx | "- A team is currently working on redoing the 1-60 game " -- whoa, I missed that. Why aren't people more excited for that? hehe |
| 03:34.03 | Nom- | They are?!?! |
| 03:34.05 | Nom- | I missed that too |
| 03:34.13 | Nom- | That would be so awesome |
| 03:34.15 | bleeter | Kyahx: whoa, that's what I was *really* waiting to hear |
| 03:34.17 | Kyahx | In fact, that might be the most exciting thing I've read about it so far |
| 03:34.23 | bleeter | indeed |
| 03:34.39 | Nom- | I hope they make the XP rate scale up to outlands levels |
| 03:34.48 | Nom- | (Which means doubling XP gains accross the board basically) |
| 03:34.53 | Nom- | That would make 1-60 so much less boring |
| 03:35.02 | Kyahx | I want to see some forgotten content worked on |
| 03:35.04 | Kyahx | like Grim Batol |
| 03:35.32 | Kyahx | Heroic Deadmines FTW? |
| 03:35.38 | bleeter | it's like this huge chain foo for Nelves |
| 03:35.48 | bleeter | and it dies out on some wimpy teddy in Winterspring |
| 03:36.58 | Nom- | Actually |
| 03:37.06 | Nom- | Making all the old world instances have a heroic mode would be awesome |
| 03:37.24 | Nom- | Have a Heroic Ragefire Chasm which is for about level 30-40 instead of 10-20 |
| 03:37.34 | Nom- | That would extend the life of so many instance |
| 03:39.27 | bleeter | well, I guess if they have a team looking at 1-60 again, chances for flying in Azeroth might increase some |
| 03:46.28 | Nom- | Probably not |
| 03:46.38 | Nom- | But it would give newer players a better experience, I would hope |
| 03:46.44 | Nom- | 1-60 is soooo boring now |
| 03:46.52 | Nom- | It's almost exciting to get ganked |
| 03:46.54 | Thunder_Child | where did that come from...they distinctly said they will not be looking at the old stuff |
| 03:47.15 | Thunder_Child | they will focus their time on new content, not improving old content |
| 03:47.42 | Nom- | - Grim Batol is likely to be a WotLK raid |
| 03:48.08 | Nom- | It's listed in the Day 1 recap |
| 03:48.22 | Wobwork | s'true |
| 03:48.24 | Wobwork | I recall that point |
| 03:49.51 | Nom- | "- Paladin tanking is being worked on " |
| 03:49.54 | Nom- | Why? |
| 03:50.02 | Nom- | The only problem is itemization |
| 03:50.03 | Nom- | That's it |
| 03:50.18 | Cide | health issues |
| 03:50.19 | Nom- | We just need more gear with +stam, +int, +defense, +spell damage |
| 03:50.21 | Thunder_Child | ret pallys |
| 03:50.27 | Nom- | in that order |
| 03:50.31 | Thunder_Child | heh |
| 03:50.49 | Thunder_Child | umm..they are making it so there is more dps and less invisible aggro gen |
| 03:50.49 | Nom- | No, but seriously |
| 03:51.04 | Nom- | What do you mean invisible aggro gen ? |
| 03:51.22 | Nom- | Paladins have massive aggro generation, all procced from hits |
| 03:51.37 | Thunder_Child | hits yes, damage no |
| 03:51.43 | Nom- | I mean...warrior aggro is invisible too |
| 03:51.55 | Thunder_Child | yea, that is being worked on for all tanking |
| 03:52.02 | Nom- | You don't know how much aggro they have (without Omen)... same thing for paladins |
| 03:52.11 | Nom- | Bah..not hard...just include Omen in the default UI |
| 03:52.13 | Thunder_Child | and yes, they did mention itemization |
| 03:52.14 | Tierrie | Gnarfoz/TC: not really, starcraft 2 was cool. WoW has a new expansion. Someone people got all the news. I was more interested in taking photos :) |
| 03:52.14 | Thrae | Nom-: You've never read the Warrior forums, I suppose. Definately not invisible. |
| 03:52.24 | Thunder_Child | yes, they are going to put a fuzzy threat meter in the default ui |
| 03:52.37 | Nom- | Yeah, well that's all you need |
| 03:52.42 | Thunder_Child | so they say |
| 03:52.57 | ScytheBlade1 | I forget who it was, but they wanted a picture of the phrase "LOLWell" up on the blizzcon presentation |
| 03:52.58 | Thunder_Child | Tierrie? |
| 03:53.03 | ScytheBlade1 | Well, I just found a screenshot of it: http://www.blogsmithmedia.com/www.wowinsider.com/media/2007/08/classpanelpriest.jpg |
| 03:53.05 | Thunder_Child | Tigle |
| 03:53.08 | Arrowmaster | and the fuzzy threat meter is going to go 'you might want to slow down now' about 3 seconds before something walks over and squishes you i bet |
| 03:53.10 | Thunder_Child | nvm |
| 03:53.16 | Tierrie | I'm responding to something you said like 3 hours ago :( |
| 03:53.33 | Thrae | I wonder if they'll make it all RP'd. That'd be nice. "Murloc Hunter looks angrily at Thrae! |
| 03:53.48 | Thunder_Child | Tierrie, i was talking about cairs lower back |
| 03:54.05 | ScytheBlade1 | Gaaahhh |
| 03:54.07 | Thrae | "Murloc Hunter shouts 'MURGGLRLGURLGL', which can't be anything good, and lunges at Thrae." |
| 03:54.13 | ScytheBlade1 | The StinkyQueue thread is back from eight months ago |
| 03:54.16 | Arrowmaster | i wouldnt be supprised if they did something like that for whenever the max therat changed |
| 03:54.44 | Thunder_Child | fuzzy like the agro meters wont be perfect |
| 03:54.50 | Thunder_Child | aggro* |
| 03:54.55 | Arrowmaster | doubtful |
| 03:55.14 | Arrowmaster | more like fuzzy there wont actually be a number givin by the default ui |
| 03:55.26 | Arrowmaster | the api could give raw numbers but the ui wont |
| 03:55.35 | Thrae | Fuzzy Aggro Meters -- "Say ONE more time that I can't tank or DPS this instance, and I will seriously Mangle your face" |
| 03:55.56 | Thunder_Child | well they will be allowing you to pick up unique IDs for mobs |
| 03:55.56 | Thrae | Aggro: 502 |
| 03:56.27 | Cide | Thunder_Child: not necessarily... |
| 03:56.50 | Thunder_Child | for which part? |
| 03:56.53 | Arrowmaster | they want to keep their UI clean and simple, they wont be adding a threat display that lists of the exact threat numbers for the top 10 people on a mobs threat list |
| 03:56.54 | Cide | unique IDs |
| 03:57.29 | Thunder_Child | thats according to the UI panel |
| 03:57.39 | Thunder_Child | only gatherable through the combat log |
| 03:58.42 | Arrowmaster | kinda useless if you can get unique ids for mobs in the combat log but cant figure out which one your targeting |
| 04:00.24 | Thunder_Child | <-- not a coder |
| 04:00.34 | Thunder_Child | still, it's supposed to be helpfull |
| 04:00.44 | Thunder_Child | also someone said something about the API |
| 04:01.02 | Nom- | Agreed, pointless to give you numbers in the combat log that you can't do anything with in the UI |
| 04:01.19 | Thunder_Child | you can |
| 04:01.42 | Thunder_Child | i missed the UI but this is something that alot of people were talking about |
| 04:01.47 | Nom- | That's like saying "Here's a key that opens a super secret vault filled with thousands of gold and dozens of epic items. But we can't tell you where it is. In fact, you can't even get to it..." |
| 04:03.10 | Arrowmaster | im seriously wondering how complex there new single combatlog event is going to be and how many args its going to have |
| 04:03.32 | Thunder_Child | enough to have fun with |
| 04:03.50 | Arrowmaster | hopefully its not so complex its a pita to work with |
| 04:04.01 | Nom- | Anyone hear if they're going to give you some way to /combatlog to a specific file |
| 04:04.04 | Wobwork | like secureframes? =) |
| 04:04.05 | Nom- | ? |
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| 04:24.52 | Thunder_Child | ahhh...i can open my raid panel in combat but not close it...so frustrating |
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| 04:58.20 | Nom- | Anyone here hit Black Temple yet ? :) |
| 04:58.41 | Nom- | Just curious if the encounters are still on par in complexity with SSC/The Eye or have they gone to a whole new level? :) |
| 04:58.52 | ScytheBlade1 | ... some tard just bumped two eight-nine month old threads stating that "AV Preform Enablers" were bannable offenses. |
| 04:58.56 | ScytheBlade1 | I'm going to injure someone. |
| 04:59.13 | Nom- | lol |
| 04:59.24 | Nom- | They're making it so that you can take premades to AV again |
| 04:59.26 | Nom- | So happy :) |
| 04:59.31 | ScytheBlade1 | I agree |
| 04:59.36 | Nom- | Might actually win |
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| 04:59.46 | Nom- | I played more than 20 games this weekend (horde) lost every single one |
| 05:00.14 | Nom- | The closest we came was to take their aid station just after they captured it (ie. theirs was contested, ours was already capped) |
| 05:00.16 | ScytheBlade1 | Ouch |
| 05:00.32 | ScytheBlade1 | To be fair, 9/10 people in AV are retarded when it comes to how AV is actually played. |
| 05:00.54 | Nom- | Some battlegroups seem to get wins, but ours doesn't |
| 05:01.18 | Nom- | And given we win 75% of the time on other grounds |
| 05:01.20 | Nom- | Q_Q |
| 05:01.21 | ScytheBlade1 | I play on alliance... today, I got a preform of me + three others (mage, holy priest, feral druid, and a rogue) |
| 05:01.31 | ScytheBlade1 | We defended the SH GY for 30m as the horde tried to push |
| 05:01.44 | ScytheBlade1 | Once our offene broke through (and all of the AFKers had left) - we pushed O |
| 05:01.53 | ScytheBlade1 | s/offene/offense/ |
| 05:02.04 | Nom- | Yeah, that's the painful part though |
| 05:02.07 | ScytheBlade1 | And the horde didn't get past SP GY |
| 05:02.10 | ScytheBlade1 | Heh, I didn't mind |
| 05:02.10 | Nom- | You can defend that one choke point for hours |
| 05:02.21 | ScytheBlade1 | 1500 honor in one game? I don't care that it took an hour :) |
| 05:02.27 | Nom- | We don't any real controllable chokepoint like that |
| 05:02.31 | ScytheBlade1 | Never mind that I actually PvP'd. |
| 05:02.47 | Nom- | lol |
| 05:02.51 | Kaydeethree | jesus h christ, where the hell does my apartment complex get its internet access from? |
| 05:02.52 | Nom- | most of the time we just let you guys win |
| 05:02.59 | Kaydeethree | just ran a speed test: 7MB down, 4MB up |
| 05:03.06 | Nom- | It's either 1hr+ of AV and like 750 honor |
| 05:03.11 | Nom- | Or 20 mins and 500 honor |
| 05:03.19 | Nom- | Not a hard choice really |
| 05:03.25 | ScytheBlade1 | I wasn't there for honor |
| 05:03.29 | Nom- | I was |
| 05:03.34 | Nom- | I need soooo much honor |
| 05:03.41 | Nom- | I am chasing two sets of PvP armor |
| 05:03.54 | Nom- | One for holy (for real pvp) and one retribution (for PvE) |
| 05:03.59 | Nom- | Yes...retribution set for PvE |
| 05:04.25 | Nom- | At the same time, i'm grinding arena points...not sure if i'll get holy or ret on that though |
| 05:04.49 | ScytheBlade1 | As long as you're not sitting in the cave, power to you |
| 05:05.54 | Nom- | Yeah, I wish I could bring myself to do that actually |
| 05:06.01 | Nom- | But I can't...i feel so guilty |
| 05:06.20 | Nom- | I like the changes they're making for AFKers though |
| 05:06.29 | Nom- | (The ones discussed at BlizzCon) |
| 05:06.33 | Kaydeethree | ya |
| 05:06.44 | Nom- | I hope they push that out sooner rather than later |
| 05:06.49 | Nom- | I mean, i'm sure we'll still lose |
| 05:06.55 | Nom- | But at least we'll have a fighting chance |
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| 05:09.16 | ScytheBlade1 | Argh |
| 05:09.33 | ScytheBlade1 | That same idiot who bumped two nine month old threads has been saying the same thing on the general forums |
| 05:10.43 | ScytheBlade1 | I'm going to choke someone |
| 05:11.55 | Corrodias | i'm all outta bitches |
| 05:13.00 | Wobwork | Rent one |
| 05:13.50 | Corrodias | i must sleep now. 'ni! |
| 05:19.16 | Nom- | Blizzard's current policy on the cave dwellers seems to be, as long as they respond to tells from GM's (ie. they're at the keyboard) then there's nothing they can do |
| 05:19.33 | Nom- | Which is so frustrating, but i've given up caring |
| 05:19.45 | Nom- | I just try to maximize honor by killing everything i see |
| 05:20.25 | Wobwork | There should be suction from the instance exit |
| 05:20.35 | Wobwork | so if they stay in the cave, they slowly slide out of the bg |
| 05:21.11 | Nom- | haha |
| 05:21.26 | Nom- | well it doesn't matter soon anyway |
| 05:21.32 | ScytheBlade1 | Fortunately |
| 05:21.40 | Nom- | (The sooner the better) |
| 05:21.54 | Nom- | It's not that I care that they AFK when they should be playing |
| 05:21.55 | ScytheBlade1 | I can see a bunch of people taking off their gear and dieing multiple times to mobs though. |
| 05:21.59 | Nom- | It's that they're leaching off my hard work |
| 05:22.12 | ScytheBlade1 | s/die/dy/ |
| 05:22.46 | Nom- | Yeah, true... |
| 05:22.59 | Nom- | Or just doing the quests |
| 05:23.05 | Nom- | But at least they're doing something.. |
| 05:23.09 | ScytheBlade1 | pmg, AV has quests?!?! |
| 05:23.11 | ScytheBlade1 | wtf? |
| 05:23.15 | ScytheBlade1 | People scare me. |
| 05:23.16 | Nom- | Yes... |
| 05:23.28 | Nom- | There's heaps of quests |
| 05:23.41 | ScytheBlade1 | I bet as soon as the AFK changes go live there will be multiple posts on general asking just that |
| 05:23.45 | ScytheBlade1 | "wtf? AV has quests?" |
| 05:23.51 | Nom- | Collecting supplies from the mines, capturing a mine, a whole heap of other stuff |
| 05:24.11 | Nom- | There's one where you have to get a flag from a cave full of mobs |
| 05:24.21 | Wobwork | hehe I remember doing those |
| 05:24.34 | Nom- | I think there's one that has something to do with taming or killing wolves, but I never did that (or even found it) |
| 05:24.35 | Wobwork | trying to collect those damn rams in the short time available =P |
| 05:24.38 | ScytheBlade1 | I helped a pally friend back in the day get his Ice Barbed Spear. |
| 05:26.28 | Nom- | lol that's not hard to do, Wobwork |
| 05:26.32 | Nom- | The games last too long now |
| 05:27.04 | Nom- | By too long, I mean, they last more than long enough for me to solo capture both mines, kill 3-4 lieutenants and balinda |
| 05:27.04 | Wobwork | Not when I was doing AV weekend =) |
| 05:27.10 | Nom- | and still have time to pwn a few alliance |
| 05:27.39 | Wobwork | which was basically "Everyone except a few zerg to the end, waving at the horde as we pass each other midfield and try to cap endboss first" |
| 05:28.17 | ScytheBlade1 | Heh |
| 05:28.33 | ScytheBlade1 | I'm one of those annoying mages who stands at IB GY, chain sheeping horde who try to run by on their mount |
| 05:28.46 | ScytheBlade1 | Horde _really_ seem to hate that |
| 05:30.57 | Arrowmaster | im sad i cant do my av rush strat anymore |
| 05:31.05 | Arrowmaster | that ive won so many av's with |
| 05:31.13 | ScytheBlade1 | AV rush strat? |
| 05:32.22 | Arrowmaster | i rush past icewing and if i die i run back to my corpse, meet up with 2 rogues under the bridge and summon a group of about 10-15 people i know and i'm on vent with, then the rogues go solo cap both towers while we take and hold the gy |
| 05:32.56 | Arrowmaster | having sp gy and two towers destroyed 8 minutes into the game is so funny |
| 05:33.14 | ScytheBlade1 | lol nice |
| 05:33.26 | Arrowmaster | because they never expect the group of 10-15 to be there and dont send enough people to take it back |
| 05:33.29 | ScytheBlade1 | I like to (as a mage) solo run up to the horde RH |
| 05:33.37 | ScytheBlade1 | Pop invis and run past the towers |
| 05:33.44 | ScytheBlade1 | Sheep the elite, AoE the mobs |
| 05:33.44 | ScytheBlade1 | Cap |
| 05:34.01 | ScytheBlade1 | Not as fun as 15 people appearing out of nowhere, but it usually gets a few comments |
| 05:34.16 | Arrowmaster | ive hidden in one of the trees next to sp hut before and had half the alliance run right past me |
| 05:34.51 | ScytheBlade1 | lol yeah |
| 05:34.57 | ScytheBlade1 | Too few people tab target as they run |
| 05:35.02 | Arrowmaster | always fail at getting the gy though because when i have to do that the towers are always up |
| 05:35.41 | Thrae | If an Undead (Forsaken) becomes a Death Knight via the new hero class system, which is an Undead Necromancer or Undead Paladin, would the result finally kill them for good? Since the Undead race is obviously not the only race with access to becoming a Death Knight. |
| 05:36.12 | Arrowmaster | you dont become a deathnight, you get a new character thats a deathknight |
| 05:36.35 | Thrae | Right, but they'll have to be both Horde and Alliance Death Knights, unless they're Neutral. |
| 05:37.01 | Arrowmaster | right, and so far theyve said all races will 'probably' be able to be death knihts |
| 05:37.02 | ScytheBlade1 | My real concern is just how... capable people will be with a class that they didn't level from 1 to 80 with |
| 05:37.09 | ScytheBlade1 | That's going to be one incredible learning curve |
| 05:37.47 | Gnarfoz | if the class starts at 55 (or whatever level it was), then there's nothing to be learned from 1-55 |
| 05:37.56 | Thrae | Arrowmaster: Hence, if the process of becoming a Death Knight means becoming Undead, would a Forsaken die from trying to become a Death Knight? |
| 05:38.03 | Thrae | You must see the redundancy here. |
| 05:38.24 | Wobwork | UnUndead |
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| 05:38.27 | Wobwork | ReDead |
| 05:38.29 | Gnarfoz | I don't know if Death Knights need to be undead |
| 05:38.29 | Thrae | The Death Knights are not the same type of Undead as the Scourge or Forsaken. |
| 05:38.34 | Wobwork | NotDeadYet |
| 05:38.45 | Thrae | Gnarfoz: According to lore, all the previous Death Knights were a type of Undead. |
| 05:39.00 | Gnarfoz | did Arthas ever die to become one? (just skipped through wc3 with cheats on for the story, might have missed it ^^) |
| 05:39.03 | Wobwork | Maybe they get unforsaken |
| 05:39.04 | Wobwork | Then die |
| 05:39.13 | Arrowmaster | ganking gnome death knights is going to be fun |
| 05:39.16 | Thrae | Gnarfoz: Yes, he gave his soul to the Lich King |
| 05:39.19 | Gnarfoz | no |
| 05:39.22 | Gnarfoz | err |
| 05:39.24 | Gnarfoz | before that I mean |
| 05:39.35 | ScytheBlade1 | Arthas is indeed a Death Knight |
| 05:40.02 | ScytheBlade1 | They existed before him, but he is largely the most power Death Knight as far as lore is concerned (currently) |
| 05:40.17 | Gnarfoz | and I meant "die" as in "die", not "give soul" - be killed or killed himself |
| 05:41.11 | Gnarfoz | because all undead died before being resurrected as undead, didn't they? |
| 05:41.11 | Nom- | Death Knights: Blizzard's answer to SOE's Hologrind. |
| 05:41.12 | Thrae | Gnarfoz: Frostmourne stole his soul. He didn't succumb to the Plague of the Scourge like most. |
| 05:41.24 | ScytheBlade1 | He's still human |
| 05:41.26 | Gnarfoz | so he never died |
| 05:41.38 | ScytheBlade1 | Yeah, Arthas is still living in every sense of the word |
| 05:41.41 | Thrae | Gnarfoz: Well, I'm guessing Blizzard considers you 'dead' if you have no soul |
| 05:41.47 | Nom- | From what i've read, it sounds like that's exactly what Deathknights are effectively |
| 05:41.48 | Wobwork | yeah |
| 05:41.53 | Wobwork | otherwise you'll spirit res =P |
| 05:41.53 | Nom- | Well, probably closer to the "Village" |
| 05:42.11 | Nom- | If you've never played Star Wars: Galaxies, you'll have no idea what i'm talking about of course :) |
| 05:42.20 | ScytheBlade1 | Or he's as much "alive" as you can be with the essence of an incredibly powerful Orc Warlock soul inhabiting your soul/body at the same time |
| 05:42.36 | Gnarfoz | heh |
| 05:42.45 | Gnarfoz | oh, time to get to work |
| 05:42.47 | Nom- | The biggest problem I see with death knight though, is the same as SWG had |
| 05:42.48 | Gnarfoz | bleh :\ |
| 05:42.53 | ScytheBlade1 | Time to sleep for me |
| 05:42.54 | Thrae | ScytheBlade1: Arthas's soul is fully merged with the soul of the Lich King, they don't exist in tandem anymore. |
| 05:42.54 | Nom- | Jedi became the alpha class |
| 05:42.55 | ScytheBlade1 | Nearly midnight |
| 05:43.00 | Thrae | Arthas IS the Lich King. |
| 05:43.19 | ScytheBlade1 | Thrae, indeed. That's what I was saying |
| 05:43.35 | Nom- | The original version of Jedi in SWG was so powerful.... they wore armor and could do such insane amounts of damage |
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| 05:44.05 | Nom- | Imagine a class that can deflect 90% of incoming shots from a hunter, and then when they get into melee range, one-shot them |
| 05:44.09 | Nom- | That's what Jedi was like |
| 05:44.10 | Nom- | :/ |
| 05:44.40 | Nom- | But, in order to reach that power level, you had to be 4/4/4/4 guardian, which took months |
| 05:44.42 | Gnarfoz | I still think heroes (in RTS's, as well as hero classes, in WoW) are a bad idea :\ |
| 05:44.45 | Arrowmaster | and thats what jedi should be like and why they shouldnt be a playable class |
| 05:45.14 | Nom- | Plus, every time you got killed by a bounty hunter in that game, you had the chance to lose a skill box |
| 05:45.32 | Arrowmaster | lol? |
| 05:45.40 | Arrowmaster | why? |
| 05:45.42 | Nom- | The skill boxes took days to grind... imagine grinding 69-70 only getting 400xp per kill, and having no other way (ie. quests) to get XP |
| 05:46.48 | Nom- | The only class which could kill them was a Bounty Hunter/Swordsman, because they had melee mitigation, and for some reason Lightsabers did phsyical damage back then :P |
| 05:46.53 | Wobwork | sounds... like...fun |
| 05:47.22 | Thrae | Nom-: Yeah, but when Jedi were first introduced, they had Permadeath. |
| 05:47.34 | Nom- | Thrae: True, but I didn't grind Jedi back then |
| 05:47.36 | Thrae | Any class that has Permadeath should own everything, hard. |
| 05:47.45 | Nom- | I got mine just before they introduced the armorless Jedi |
| 05:47.57 | Nom- | That was still fun though |
| 05:48.01 | Nom- | They could live through anything |
| 05:48.22 | Nom- | I remember one time being chased all over from one side of Tattooine to the other |
| 05:48.33 | Nom- | I'm running along using Force Run, they're using their bikes |
| 05:48.36 | Nom- | Best time ever |
| 05:48.51 | Thrae | Heh |
| 05:49.03 | Nom- | Every now and then i'd stop, let them catch up, kill 2-3 of them, run away again before i ran out of force :P |
| 05:49.17 | Arrowmaster | rofl |
| 05:49.42 | Nom- | It was just nuts...you could live through any kind of pvp |
| 05:49.46 | Nom- | was so much fun too |
| 05:50.11 | Nom- | AoE grinding on rancors on Dathomir pre-pub9 was fun too |
| 05:50.17 | Arrowmaster | now with the proper people a system like that would work, if you had people that like the idea of being the underdog and ganging up on some really powerful enemy, but most people would rather play the completely overpowerd class |
| 05:50.17 | Thrae | Reminds me of a twink and/or Shaman ;) |
| 05:50.29 | Nom- | You'd pull in about 10-20 randors and just throw a few aoe spells and they'd drop like flies |
| 05:50.49 | Thrae | Arrowmaster: PvP should never be about the 1v1 |
| 05:50.56 | Nom- | Arrowmaster: Noone could be bothered doing the grind though |
| 05:51.21 | Nom- | Arrowmaster: The old hologrind system... it would basically tell you to grind a specific class (to master) and then you had to do it all again |
| 05:51.33 | Nom- | I unlocked mine on Combat Medic, after grinding all but 2 professions |
| 05:51.57 | Nom- | And you have to remember there was not the 6-7 like in WoW |
| 05:52.02 | Nom- | There was 30-something |
| 05:52.07 | Arrowmaster | one of my old guildmates had one of the first dozen jedi, but stoped playing shortly after getting it, and didnt sell his account |
| 05:52.25 | Nom- | heh, sucks to be him |
| 05:52.29 | Arrowmaster | yeah |
| 05:52.32 | Thrae | Wow, even though Sony later sanctioned online trading |
| 05:52.43 | Nom- | I got offered nearly $1000 USD for my Jedi |
| 05:52.50 | Arrowmaster | yeah he did too |
| 05:53.00 | Thrae | Nom-: You didn't take it? |
| 05:53.08 | Nom- | Nope, was having too much fun |
| 05:53.16 | Thrae | You're -still- playing it? |
| 05:53.20 | Nom- | Heck no |
| 05:53.25 | Nom- | Jedi sucks now |
| 05:53.30 | Thrae | If you're not playing it now, why not sell your account when you left? :D |
| 05:53.41 | Arrowmaster | let me guess, by the time you stoped playing they werent worth much because sony destoryed the game |
| 05:53.41 | Thrae | Oh, you left -after- the Jedi started sucking. Gotcha. |
| 05:53.42 | Nom- | Because I left after the latest patch |
| 05:53.48 | Nom- | When Jedi became a starter profession |
| 05:53.56 | Arrowmaster | starter profession? |
| 05:53.58 | Arrowmaster | lol |
| 05:54.03 | Wobwork | rofl |
| 05:54.05 | Nom- | Profession/Class |
| 05:54.07 | Nom- | Whatever |
| 05:54.17 | Nom- | I gave it like 2-3 weeks |
| 05:54.18 | Arrowmaster | so you could go out and get a new account and start a jedi? |
| 05:54.22 | Nom- | Yep |
| 05:54.33 | Thrae | This is Star Wars Galaxies -- if Jedi was made a regular class, everyone would be a freakin' Jedi |
| 05:54.44 | Nom- | All the people who spent months and months grinding Jedi got screwed over completely |
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| 05:54.55 | Nom- | Thrae: Except noone is now, because they suck |
| 05:54.58 | Arrowmaster | Thrae: after sony destoryed the game thats probably the only thing they could do to keep people playing |
| 05:55.07 | Thrae | Darth Vader would go around saying "WTF, didn't I kill these guys...are Luke and Leia gettin' it on or somethin'?" |
| 05:55.21 | Nom- | To give you an idea of scale |
| 05:55.41 | Mr_Rabies2 | what does the challenger title signify? :O |
| 05:55.48 | Nom- | Imagine going from a Level 70 Ret Paladin (with MS Warrior damage) in full T6 |
| 05:55.57 | Nom- | To a level 60 naked protection warrior |
| 05:56.23 | Nom- | That was the level of magnitude of change |
| 05:57.26 | Nom- | Actually, it was more like going from a 41/41/41 70 Paladin to a 0/0/0 60 Warrior |
| 05:57.30 | Nom- | :P |
| 05:57.48 | Nom- | Jedi was the alpha class of alpha classes |
| 05:57.53 | Nom- | They could be killed, but it was DAMN hard |
| 05:58.11 | Thrae | They should've just kept in permadeath |
| 05:58.21 | Thrae | Maybe reduce the grind a 'lil |
| 05:58.39 | Nom- | Nah, permadeath was way harsh |
| 05:58.43 | Wobwork | yeah |
| 05:58.49 | Nom- | Especially with all the visibility bugs |
| 05:58.51 | Wobwork | not conducive to repeat fees =P |
| 05:59.04 | Arrowmaster | i want an mmo with d&d rules |
| 05:59.14 | Thrae | Well, maybe permadeath after a set number of deaths per day |
| 05:59.14 | Arrowmaster | but not shitty like d&d onine |
| 05:59.22 | Nom- | See, the way it worked was you couldn't be bounty hunted until you received a certain amount of visibility |
| 05:59.31 | Nom- | But that system was constantly plagued with bugs |
| 06:00.01 | Nom- | You could sometimes go and clear an entire city using your light saber and not get on the terms |
| 06:00.13 | Nom- | Then you'd go and kill one NPC in the middle of Dathomir and be on top |
| 06:00.19 | Thrae | Heh |
| 06:00.33 | Nom- | Or you'd have group members generating visibilty when they shouldn't |
| 06:00.33 | Thrae | You know what I'm still waiting for in a MMORPG? |
| 06:00.36 | Nom- | It was whacky |
| 06:01.06 | Thrae | One where you, and the bosses, look seriously, seriously more bad-ass in combat as you go up in levels. |
| 06:01.30 | Wobwork | heh |
| 06:01.33 | Arrowmaster | Thrae: like WaR orcs getting larger as they level? |
| 06:01.36 | Wobwork | actual fight mechanics would be cool |
| 06:01.42 | Nom- | Actually |
| 06:01.44 | Wobwork | more complex manouveres |
| 06:01.55 | Thrae | Arrowmaster: No, I mean how you fight, not how you look while fighting ;) |
| 06:01.58 | Nom- | One thing that was really fun back in the original version was soling Nightsister Elders on my Doctor/Swordsman :D |
| 06:02.21 | Wobwork | Thrae: Actual moves with the sword etc |
| 06:02.35 | Wobwork | combos attack patterns and so forth |
| 06:02.37 | Thrae | I approve mandatory cut scenes on raid bosses, as long as they don't last over 30 seconds. |
| 06:02.51 | Nom- | To give you an idea, they were the equivilent of killing a 10-man raid boss solo :P |
| 06:02.59 | Nom- | Well, maybe a 5-man |
| 06:03.04 | Wobwork | Especially if they go "What? You again? Didn't we try this -last- week?" |
| 06:03.07 | Thrae | Wobwork: Right, and big-ass spells for higher levels. |
| 06:03.21 | Nom- | Was tricky and expensive though... went through a full set of armor every couple of days |
| 06:03.22 | Wobwork | The summoning animation for the deathknight looked pretty cool =) |
| 06:03.38 | Thrae | Group Spells where your group all helps cast the spell, which looks seriously awesome. |
| 06:03.48 | Arrowmaster | i have this urge to go play nighty-nine nights now even though my inphyy is max level and beat all the missions |
| 06:04.18 | Nom- | Anyone seen what they were talking about by 'hero' classes progression ? |
| 06:04.33 | Arrowmaster | but then again max level inphyy is like one of the most fun things in nighty-nine nights |
| 06:04.39 | Nom- | Like they were saying your spec would define another progression of talents or abilities |
| 06:04.42 | Nom- | Or something like that |
| 06:04.54 | Thrae | Nom-: "50-80 as a Death Knight will take you as long as 1-80 for a normal class." |
| 06:05.17 | Wobwork | didn't they say that about 60-70? |
| 06:05.29 | Thrae | I just made that up for dramatic effect. |
| 06:06.05 | Wobwork | <thunder> |
| 06:06.07 | Thrae | Really, 40-45 is hell of a lot longer then 60-70. |
| 06:06.17 | Arrowmaster | i did 60-70 in less than 2 weeks irl, 1-60 is too fucking boring to grind that fast |
| 06:06.40 | Thrae | Well, not a "hell of a lot longer", but about the same. |
| 06:06.47 | Thunder_Child | ~lart Wobwork |
| 06:06.47 | purl | puts on some milking gloves. "All right, now, Wobwork, this won't hurt a bit...." |
| 06:07.02 | Arrowmaster | but 60-70 with 60 raid gear was probably so much easyer than 60-70 with just hit 60 gear |
| 06:07.17 | Nom- | 60-70 took me about 4 days /played |
| 06:07.23 | Nom- | 1-60 took me about 5 days /played |
| 06:07.24 | Nom- | so meh |
| 06:07.39 | Arrowmaster | yeah i cant grind that much |
| 06:07.47 | Arrowmaster | my 1-60 was 30 days |
| 06:07.51 | Arrowmaster | but that was my first char |
| 06:07.54 | Thrae | Arrowmaster: Except you're forgeting all the 59-62 BC upgrades which are superior to raid gear ;) |
| 06:07.55 | Nom- | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:08.07 | Arrowmaster | 245+ |
| 06:08.12 | Nom- | Ouch... I couldn't imagine taking 30 days to do 1-60 |
| 06:08.32 | Nom- | My first character did 1-60 in 10 or 12 days i think it was |
| 06:08.40 | Nom- | My Paladin did 1-70 in 10 days |
| 06:08.41 | Thrae | Like ones from quests that take like 5 minutes, and give an item better then what you can get from anywhere else except BWL pre-BC |
| 06:08.59 | Thrae | Those were not as uncommon as you may think |
| 06:09.05 | Nom- | And I did 60-70 on my mage pretty damn quick |
| 06:09.07 | Arrowmaster | yeah 30 /played for my first 1-60, at 245+ /played now |
| 06:09.09 | Nom- | it was all rested :) |
| 06:09.20 | Arrowmaster | i actually didnt upgrade much gear at all from 60-70 |
| 06:09.36 | Arrowmaster | warlock with full mc/bwl gear |
| 06:09.38 | Nom- | I remember thinking around level 68, after not playing for 2 days, "Why isn't my rested xp % going up?" |
| 06:09.44 | Nom- | Then I realised I was already rested all the way to 70 :) |
| 06:10.26 | Arrowmaster | i played way too much after first hitting 60 |
| 06:10.44 | Arrowmaster | i went into tbc at over 200 /played and im only at 245+ now |
| 06:10.56 | Nom- | And what's this about "Mana regen is a flawed mechanic for Mages, Shamans and Hunters" ? |
| 06:11.05 | Nom- | Shamans yes, but not mages or Hunters |
| 06:11.22 | Arrowmaster | i think they mean the 5 second rule |
| 06:11.41 | Nom- | I fact, they just listed the 3 classes that DON'T have any real mana problems to speak of |
| 06:11.54 | Tierrie | MyBlizzCon2007 Pictures: http://www.flickr.com/photos/14597287@N00/sets/72157601245280162/ |
| 06:11.57 | Tierrie | :) |
| 06:12.02 | Tierrie | done culling the chaft |
| 06:12.08 | Thrae | Druids are the ones that basically rely on MP/5, especially in PvP. |
| 06:12.09 | Nom- | Show me a Paladin that ever gets out of the 5 second rule, and I'll show you a Paladin that isn't doing their job properly |
| 06:12.18 | Arrowmaster | mages have more mana problems now, they all use molten armor now instead of mage armor |
| 06:12.31 | Nom- | Arrowmaster: But they have evocate, mana gems |
| 06:12.50 | Nom- | Any mage which goes oom in a 10 minute boss right isn't using a potion/gem/evocate rotation properly |
| 06:12.56 | Nom- | s/right/fight |
| 06:13.06 | Tierrie | Besides, you are supposed to balance your spirit and int |
| 06:13.07 | Arrowmaster | yeah not sure about pot usage |
| 06:13.16 | Tierrie | Mages that go all int and then bitch about regen should get their heads kicked in |
| 06:13.18 | Nom- | That's not a new problem either, you always had to use pot/gem rotations, even in MC pre-BC |
| 06:13.26 | Arrowmaster | im a bastard and never use pots or healthstones on my warlock |
| 06:13.43 | Nom- | Yeah, warlock doesn't have to worry about health/mana regen either |
| 06:13.53 | Nom- | They can drain/lifetap their way back to full health |
| 06:14.09 | Arrowmaster | i mean i could do better but that would require actually using pots |
| 06:14.34 | Nom- | The classes they need to look at for mana regen are Paladins, Shamans (non-resto at least), Druid (non-feral) |
| 06:15.09 | Nom- | Paladins in any spec, without outside help, are doomed to run OOM even with continual potion use |
| 06:15.50 | Arrowmaster | prenerf they never ran out of mana |
| 06:16.17 | Nom- | Protection Paladins do OK for mana in raid tanking |
| 06:16.26 | Nom- | Only because they get enough damage that they can't burn the mana fast enough |
| 06:16.35 | Arrowmaster | i seriously consider resto shamans to be the best healers currently from what ive seen them do |
| 06:16.42 | Wobwork | howso? |
| 06:16.52 | Wobwork | in that, what makes them so good? |
| 06:17.04 | Nom- | Mana Tide |
| 06:17.07 | Nom- | Mana Spring |
| 06:17.08 | Arrowmaster | well chainheal is fucking imba |
| 06:17.15 | Arrowmaster | earthsheild too |
| 06:17.16 | Nom- | And Chain Heal +20% talent |
| 06:17.34 | Arrowmaster | and healing way is really good when spam healing |
| 06:17.41 | Nom- | Earth Shield ... meh ... our shamans often complain it doesn't grant enough healing to be worth the mana cost |
| 06:17.47 | Wobwork | chain heal is useful on single target bosses |
| 06:18.07 | Nom- | We use shamans to heal the melee groups |
| 06:18.10 | Wobwork | thinking it's not quite as useful like on the ogres in gruul |
| 06:18.12 | Nom- | Insanely effective |
| 06:18.30 | Nom- | Probably more so than a priest PoH/CoH |
| 06:18.48 | Wobwork | oh quite likely |
| 06:18.51 | Arrowmaster | one of our shamans always swaps trinkets and puts on ZHC for ooc earthshild on tank before pull |
| 06:18.53 | Wobwork | since it's 'on demand' |
| 06:19.06 | Wobwork | for poh |
| 06:19.12 | Wobwork | (compared to poh) |
| 06:19.22 | Wobwork | er pom |
| 06:19.33 | Nom- | pom is useful |
| 06:19.35 | Wobwork | cross party too |
| 06:19.37 | Arrowmaster | he even has a bunch of green +healing gear for getting the largest possible earthsheild before arenas start |
| 06:24.22 | Nom- | Arrowmaster: That's most situational though... |
| 06:24.30 | Arrowmaster | yeah |
| 06:24.57 | Nom- | I just hope to see more bosses that *require* a Paladin Tank |
| 06:25.04 | Nom- | Nothing would make me happier :D |
| 06:25.30 | Nom- | Maybe a boss that breaks into 4 little bosses |
| 06:25.39 | Nom- | And they have a shared aggro table, so you can't OT them |
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| 06:26.10 | Nom- | Or some wierd mechanic that made it VERY hard to tank without a Paladin |
| 06:26.35 | Arrowmaster | like hitting fast? |
| 06:26.48 | Arrowmaster | the fast the mob hits the better it is for a paladin tank vs a warrior tank |
| 06:27.03 | Nom- | yah i know |
| 06:27.04 | Arrowmaster | druids cant mitigate the crushing blows from bosses |
| 06:27.08 | Nom- | Better, but not impossible |
| 06:27.28 | Nom- | There's so many bosses that hit faster than 3-4 times in 5 seconds |
| 06:27.34 | Arrowmaster | well make a boss with a 1.0 attack speed and a 50% thrash |
| 06:27.41 | Arrowmaster | but hits like a panzy |
| 06:27.47 | Nom- | But many guilds still use warriors for those bosses |
| 06:27.53 | Nom- | Just because they're used to it |
| 06:27.59 | Arrowmaster | true |
| 06:28.11 | Arrowmaster | we used a pally tank today on alar |
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| 06:28.23 | Nom- | Take Moroes |
| 06:28.30 | Nom- | He's a rogue type mob with a quick attack |
| 06:28.39 | Nom- | Yet there's almost no guilds that will use a Paladin on him |
| 06:29.25 | Wobwork | There should be a complete dwarf run on Moroes =P |
| 06:29.33 | Arrowmaster | not like he hits hard enough for crushing blows to be a problem |
| 06:29.46 | Wobwork | just for stoneform lulz |
| 06:31.44 | Nom- | Arrowmaster: True... I suppose I want to see a rogue type mob in SSC or The Eye |
| 06:31.54 | Nom- | Something that really requires a paladin to mitigate crushing |
| 06:32.57 | Arrowmaster | only issue is that paladins dont have as much hp as warriors so if you have something thats hitting fast enough and hard enough on crushing blows that a warrior isnt the best tank, the paladin would be taking too much damage per hit too for his hp |
| 06:35.00 | Nom- | Paladin HP is fine in warrior gear |
| 06:35.06 | Nom- | They just need a dps warrior to use shouts |
| 06:35.28 | Nom- | And a good spell damage main hand to help with aggro |
| 06:35.48 | Nom- | The reactive spells that paladins have just generate insane amounts of aggro against fast hitting mobs |
| 06:36.25 | Nom- | Holy Shield + 1.0 Attack Speed = More aggro than a Warrior can ever generate on that kind of mob |
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| 06:47.12 | Nom- | hmm |
| 06:47.20 | Nom- | so who is planning to do the Death Knight grind |
| 06:47.29 | Mr_Rabies2 | me, definitely |
| 06:47.44 | Mr_Rabies2 | i'll probably go mostly unholy, but we'll see how things pan out |
| 06:47.55 | Mr_Rabies2 | maybe an unholy/frost combo :O |
| 06:49.44 | Thunder_Child | me |
| 06:49.59 | Thunder_Child | i hate lvling chars from the begining |
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| 06:50.45 | Nom- | I'm tempted too |
| 06:51.05 | Thunder_Child | the only thing it hurts is the lack of char slots |
| 06:51.07 | Nom- | From what I see in the description, it's going to be like MS Warrior + Prot Warrior at the same time ? |
| 06:51.11 | Nom- | Is that the impression others get too ? |
| 06:51.23 | Mr_Rabies2 | no shields |
| 06:51.26 | Nom- | Thunder_Child: They'll probably add another one |
| 06:51.27 | Mr_Rabies2 | only bladed weapons |
| 06:51.41 | Nom- | Oh? I thought they said it would combine tanking and damage dealing ? |
| 06:51.49 | Thunder_Child | someone asked, they said they gave no intent to do so at this time |
| 06:51.54 | Mr_Rabies2 | they did, nom |
| 06:52.02 | Mr_Rabies2 | but maybe they tank using their runes |
| 06:52.05 | Mr_Rabies2 | without a shield |
| 06:52.06 | Thunder_Child | dps or tanking |
| 06:52.07 | Mr_Rabies2 | i dunno |
| 06:52.19 | Nom- | oh ok |
| 06:52.21 | Thunder_Child | it could fill either slot |
| 06:52.27 | Mr_Rabies2 | their runes let them do things |
| 06:52.35 | Nom- | that sounds fun to me |
| 06:52.38 | Thunder_Child | although not w/o respecing i think |
| 06:52.41 | Nom- | tanking or dps without respec |
| 06:53.07 | Nom- | Thunder_Child: If that were the case, they'd be no differnt to warriors? |
| 06:53.25 | Thunder_Child | wars cant prot tank w/ no shield |
| 06:53.32 | Nom- | Although, I must admit, putting their 6 second debuff up when somthing tries to heal could be hillarious to watch |
| 06:53.33 | Thunder_Child | + diff resource system |
| 06:53.52 | Nom- | If you imagine a mob which is capable of healing itself for 70% of its own hitpoints |
| 06:53.57 | Nom- | Just watching it kill itself :P |
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| 06:54.30 | Nom- | Of course, that probably means that: 1. No bosses are going to heal from then on, 2. If there are healing bosses, they'll be immune |
| 06:54.33 | Nom- | :( |
| 06:54.55 | Nom- | Inscription looks interesting |
| 06:55.01 | Nom- | A knockback on fireball would be so OP |
| 06:55.02 | Thunder_Child | yea |
| 06:55.12 | Thunder_Child | it wont happen |
| 06:55.32 | Thunder_Child | that example was shot down at a later panel |
| 06:55.34 | Nom- | increasing damage at the expense of cast time |
| 06:55.38 | Nom- | or vice versa |
| 06:55.48 | Nom- | that could be plausible |
| 06:56.02 | Thunder_Child | as long as it doesnt add more coeficents it would be fine i think |
| 06:56.05 | Nom- | 1.0 second cast scorch for instance, which only deals 80% of normal damage ? |
| 06:56.29 | Nom- | That's probably a bad example, given GCD |
| 06:56.30 | Nom- | But yeah |
| 06:56.50 | Nom- | 2 second frostbolt with 80% damage maybe... it's still a net gain, and one you'd probably use for PvP |
| 06:57.19 | Nom- | You might take the reverse for PvE |
| 06:57.26 | Thunder_Child | esp with the coeficents of the standard one |
| 06:57.28 | Nom- | 4 second cast with 130% damage or something |
| 06:57.56 | Nom- | Yeah, but you have to keep in mind that frost DPS is about getting crits all the time, not normal hits :P |
| 06:58.07 | Nom- | Fire is about half/half imo |
| 06:58.24 | Nom- | ignites are nice and all, but it's not the end of the world if you don't get one going |
| 06:58.41 | Thunder_Child | today during a raid i had 40.2% crit |
| 06:58.58 | Nom- | Spec ? |
| 06:58.59 | Thunder_Child | just 10% :) |
| 06:59.02 | Thunder_Child | Holy DPS |
| 06:59.08 | Nom- | Priest ? |
| 06:59.13 | Thunder_Child | yep |
| 06:59.20 | Nom- | lolsmite ftw |
| 06:59.26 | Nom- | Hope you had a ret pally helping you out :P |
| 06:59.30 | Thunder_Child | lolsmite for 2.5K crits |
| 06:59.40 | Thunder_Child | nope :( |
| 07:00.26 | Nom- | ahhh |
| 07:00.31 | Nom- | You can't lolsmite without a ret pally |
| 07:00.47 | Thunder_Child | you can, it's just harder |
| 07:00.54 | Thunder_Child | i had a shamy and boomkin in the party |
| 07:01.17 | Nom- | You're really missing out without a Ret Pally, seriously |
| 07:01.23 | Nom- | You may not realise by how much |
| 07:01.25 | Thunder_Child | i know |
| 07:01.33 | Thunder_Child | i we have one in the guild that i run with |
| 07:01.53 | Thunder_Child | just not for this raid |
| 07:03.00 | Nom- | I mean the unmodified version of JotC adds like 190 holy damage |
| 07:03.07 | Thunder_Child | my personal best for a smite crit is 3.3K |
| 07:03.14 | Nom- | 247 is the modified bonus |
| 07:03.24 | Nom- | With the +30% from talents |
| 07:03.29 | Thunder_Child | whats really nice is the fact that the imp and standard ones stack |
| 07:03.38 | Thunder_Child | and we have a pally MT, so i get both |
| 07:03.44 | Nom- | They do??? |
| 07:03.48 | Nom- | omg |
| 07:03.48 | Thunder_Child | yep |
| 07:03.54 | Nom- | Never tried before |
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| 07:04.07 | Thunder_Child | yea, it's really nice |
| 07:04.40 | Thunder_Child | that little extra go get em |
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| 08:31.40 | zenzelezz | so I had to reach about page 850 before realizing what the catchphrase for The Reality Dysfunction ("Space is not the only void") meant x.x |
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| 11:04.04 | zenzelezz | "Yes. Water and muffin creation like the Soulwell is incoming." <-- I spy happy mages |
| 11:05.02 | nevcairiel | I see happy healers. Happy me, so to speak |
| 11:09.01 | zenzelezz | wonder if the water one will simply be "Well" |
| 11:10.07 | nevcairiel | its called water fountain and muffin factory in one dev quote, that would be kinda cool =P |
| 11:11.47 | Industrial | wuh what? what are they making now? |
| 11:16.49 | zenzelezz | hm, draenei warrior called Squidzilla |
| 11:18.40 | Industrial | Human warrior called Warriordude |
| 11:18.52 | zenzelezz | that's not creative |
| 11:19.11 | MoonWolf | at least it isn't humanwarrior |
| 11:19.35 | Industrial | it tells you excactly what kind of person that is (or is trying to make you think he is, but thats another topic) |
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| 12:47.52 | zenzelezz | Shootnaxe... another "clever" hunter name |
| 12:48.06 | Lopeppeppy | Oooh... sounds very redneck to me as well. Hawt. |
| 12:48.22 | zenzelezz | zomg, a Lopeppeppy :-o |
| 12:48.44 | Lopeppeppy | Yeah, sometimes I come around on weekdays, who knew? :P |
| 12:49.20 | zenzelezz | bah, you should just enjoy the attention, not make logical points |
| 12:49.54 | Lopeppeppy | Apologies, I'm not one to bask... prickly redhead, too much Mt. Dew Game Fuel. |
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| 13:23.28 | Lopeppeppy | So where can I find the best *objective* writeups of BlizCon? I'm the pally leader for my group, and we're all holding our collective breaths to see what's true and what's not. |
| 13:24.14 | zenzelezz | you don't have to leave just because you get attention o_O |
| 13:24.29 | Elkano | checked http://www.mmo-champion.com/ ? |
| 13:24.44 | Lopeppeppy | I needed a restart, zenzelezz... virus program was done scanning. |
| 13:25.05 | Lopeppeppy | Thanks, Elkano, I'll take a cruise through there! |
| 13:29.06 | Lopeppeppy | And on to more important topics, has anyone else tried the new Mt. Dew Game Fuel, found it vile, and yet still been addicted? |
| 13:29.32 | zenzelezz | what's that, some sort of drink? |
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| 13:31.05 | Lopeppeppy | New Mt. Dew limited edition flavor. |
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| 13:34.17 | Lopeppeppy | Anyway, it's vile and addictive. |
| 13:34.56 | zenzelezz | they launched Vanilla Coke here some time ago... it vanished utterly quickly |
| 13:35.15 | Lopeppeppy | Ya know, Vanilla was never something I wanted in ice cream, much less soda pop. |
| 13:36.14 | Mr_Rabies2 | vanilla coke's back |
| 13:36.16 | Mr_Rabies2 | :O |
| 13:36.19 | zenzelezz | not here |
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| 13:36.28 | Mr_Rabies2 | they launched in in 04 or so |
| 13:36.36 | Lopeppeppy | It's been on my shelves forever, it's vile and I won't even look at it. |
| 13:36.41 | Punkie` | i just looked at that mt dew game fuel, it only has 1 more mg/100ml of caffine than pepsi max |
| 13:36.43 | zenzelezz | you forget that I'm .no Rabies |
| 13:36.45 | Mr_Rabies2 | then in late 05 silently took it off for black cherry vanilla |
| 13:36.50 | End | I never liked vanilla coke |
| 13:36.52 | Rallion | i actually love vanilla ice cream, it's my favorite, but...not that. |
| 13:36.57 | Mr_Rabies2 | i like vanilla coke :O |
| 13:37.03 | End | oh, I like vanilla ice cream too |
| 13:37.03 | Lopeppeppy | I like black cherry, but what's up with smooshing it into vanillas? |
| 13:37.07 | Punkie` | and btw, in England we have Coke with Orange right now |
| 13:37.08 | Mr_Rabies2 | i like cherry coke too :O |
| 13:37.14 | Mr_Rabies2 | but not black cherry vanilla |
| 13:37.19 | Lopeppeppy | Vanilla ice cream is merely a base for all of my toppings, but rocky road is better. |
| 13:37.33 | End | (actually, I'm not a big coke fan in general now that I think of it) |
| 13:37.52 | Lopeppeppy | I'm sadly, tragically addicted to bubbles. |
| 13:38.27 | End | I drink a lot of mt. dew, and I've been known to drink dr. pepper too |
| 13:38.39 | Mr_Rabies2 | i'm a huge fan of vault |
| 13:38.57 | Mr_Rabies2 | i was a giant surge addict back in the day and vault gives me a close estimate of surge |
| 13:39.04 | Lopeppeppy | Mt. Dew, Dr. Pepper... both diet, for my girlish figure and all, but much bubbles. |
| 13:39.19 | End | I may have to try vault |
| 13:39.23 | Punkie` | oh wow: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diet_Coke_Plus |
| 13:39.25 | Punkie` | o.O |
| 13:39.41 | Mr_Rabies2 | i can't drink diet beverages with aspartame |
| 13:39.41 | Lopeppeppy | There's Diet Pepsi Max as well, with ginseng. |
| 13:39.55 | Mr_Rabies2 | i hate all the artificial sweeteners but splenda |
| 13:40.06 | Mr_Rabies2 | well and Ace K |
| 13:40.37 | Mr_Rabies2 | we always get all the test stuff Punkie` |
| 13:40.43 | Mr_Rabies2 | i live within an hour of coke HQ :p |
| 13:41.11 | Punkie` | You haven't got Coke Orange though! |
| 13:41.14 | Punkie` | UK only! |
| 13:41.22 | End | o |
| 13:41.24 | End | o_O |
| 13:41.34 | Lopeppeppy | I soooo must have Coke Orange. *plots with UK friends to exchange game cards and soda pop* |
| 13:41.47 | Mr_Rabies2 | coka already has an orange flavor in it :O |
| 13:41.53 | Mr_Rabies2 | it's subtle, but it's there |
| 13:42.04 | Punkie` | but not 1% of orange concentrate! |
| 13:42.13 | Mr_Rabies2 | ew |
| 13:42.17 | Lopeppeppy | How hard can an orange concentrate, anyway...? |
| 13:42.22 | End | fairly hard |
| 13:42.24 | Punkie` | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coca-Cola_Orange |
| 13:42.27 | Mr_Rabies2 | they used real orange concentrate and not an artificial source? |
| 13:42.28 | Punkie` | roar, orange bottle |
| 13:42.29 | Mr_Rabies2 | ugh |
| 13:42.35 | End | you get enough oranges together, and you can solve real world problems |
| 13:42.44 | End | like cancer of the semicolon |
| 13:42.58 | Kyahx | the entire concept of Diet Coke Plus is retarded |
| 13:43.11 | Punkie` | Plus is good |
| 13:43.13 | Punkie` | it means more! |
| 13:43.13 | Mr_Rabies2 | why's that kyahx? |
| 13:43.29 | Mr_Rabies2 | if you're drinking soda why not have a few things that are good for ya in it |
| 13:43.34 | Kyahx | Generally the stuff in pop inhibits yoru absorbtion of minnerals anyways |
| 13:43.37 | Mr_Rabies2 | i love 7up plus |
| 13:43.55 | Kyahx | Your only going to get a fraction of the vitamins and crap as you would if you had the same amount from a "real" source without pop |
| 13:43.59 | Lopeppeppy | Anything to make it seem less horrible for us than it truly actually is... |
| 13:44.03 | Mr_Rabies2 | it's mostly the caffeine inhibiting calcium and that doesn't have much of a scientific basis |
| 13:44.12 | Punkie` | You know, apparently artificially added vitamins etc don't even get absorbed by your body |
| 13:44.25 | Mr_Rabies2 | most of the reports of less calcium come from calcium displacement from drinking soda instead of milk |
| 13:44.29 | Kyahx | Its a marketing scam, nothing more |
| 13:44.39 | Kyahx | Pop for stupid people to feel healthy |
| 13:44.48 | Kyahx | (and they can charge more for it) |
| 13:44.58 | End | Punkie`: in general or in soda specifically? |
| 13:45.03 | Punkie` | In general |
| 13:45.04 | Mr_Rabies2 | there's a minimal change in calcium absorbion in reality, it's just overplayed |
| 13:45.26 | Kyahx | Eh, I'll still take a cup of coffee or glass of tea over soda in most cases :P |
| 13:45.26 | End | Does that include a multivitamin tablet? |
| 13:45.29 | Punkie` | There was a big fuss about those muti-vitamin tablets a while back |
| 13:45.31 | Punkie` | yeah |
| 13:45.33 | End | ah |
| 13:45.38 | End | interesting! |
| 13:45.40 | Mr_Rabies2 | i feel less stupid paying for a bottled soda than bottled water though |
| 13:45.45 | Kyahx | heh |
| 13:46.05 | Punkie` | You guys heard what the coca-cola company did in the UK with bottle water? |
| 13:46.08 | Mr_Rabies2 | at least the soda tastes good and has more than just the most abundant material on the whole planet |
| 13:46.30 | Mr_Rabies2 | the same thing most bottling companies do, punkie? |
| 13:46.34 | Mr_Rabies2 | use municipal sources? |
| 13:46.41 | Mr_Rabies2 | the vast majority of them do |
| 13:46.43 | Punkie` | Nah, they just bottled it from the tap |
| 13:46.50 | Mr_Rabies2 | yep. |
| 13:46.51 | Mr_Rabies2 | most do |
| 13:46.51 | Rallion | ... |
| 13:46.57 | Lopeppeppy | Even the spas in this area had a scandal recently for not using spa water, but piped in water. |
| 13:46.59 | Punkie` | http://www.commondreams.org/headlines04/0304-04.htm |
| 13:47.04 | Rallion | yeah |
| 13:47.19 | Kyahx | water is water, I don't see what people freak out over |
| 13:47.32 | Rallion | water is water, but sometimes it has other stuff in it. |
| 13:47.32 | Lopeppeppy | If they advertise it as water from X source, and it's not.... |
| 13:47.36 | Punkie` | but rocks, mountains! better! |
| 13:47.45 | Mr_Rabies2 | spa water implies a source? |
| 13:47.55 | Lopeppeppy | The spa water around here, yes, from specific mineral springs. |
| 13:48.02 | Mr_Rabies2 | O_o |
| 13:48.03 | Lopeppeppy | Saratoga Springs area, NY. |
| 13:48.07 | Rallion | hey! |
| 13:48.09 | Rallion | yeah! |
| 13:48.11 | Mr_Rabies2 | dasani has added minerals and i don't drink it anyway |
| 13:48.26 | Rallion | I live like 15 miles south of Saratoga :P |
| 13:48.34 | Punkie` | Dasani was launched in the UK in January 2004. There were problems from the get-go. Early adverts referred to Dasani as "bottled spunk" or featured the tagline "can't live without spunk." In the UK, "spunk" is a euphemism for semen |
| 13:48.36 | Lopeppeppy | I live like.... 40 minutes south of Saratoga. |
| 13:48.36 | Mr_Rabies2 | i drink crystal springs if i have to get bottled water because it comes from the same source as my tap water |
| 13:48.37 | Punkie` | hehe, yeah |
| 13:48.39 | Punkie` | good times |
| 13:48.49 | Mr_Rabies2 | well at least the local plant does |
| 13:48.58 | Mr_Rabies2 | they bottle it from the atlanta municipal water supply |
| 13:49.01 | Lopeppeppy | Oh, excellent, let's drink bottled bodily fluids... NMK. |
| 13:49.08 | Kyahx | haha -- http://www.woot.com/ -- anyone need a washer/drayer? bitchin shipping price atleast :P |
| 13:49.30 | Mr_Rabies2 | which is where my tap water comes from |
| 13:49.32 | End | my parents don't get "city" water, and the water they get from their well is pretty hard, so thet get bottled water for drinking..but it's not little bottles that they get :P |
| 13:49.48 | Mr_Rabies2 | so it tastes just like my tap water |
| 13:50.00 | Mr_Rabies2 | no added minerals or anything beyond what i'm used to to make it taste funny |
| 13:50.39 | Mr_Rabies2 | our well water smelled like ass for a good number of years |
| 13:50.44 | Mr_Rabies2 | i wonder what kind of shape it's in now |
| 13:51.25 | Mr_Rabies2 | we just use it for watering the lawn and whatnot since we're restricted from using the county water during a lot of the time |
| 13:52.46 | Mr_Rabies2 | excess manganese in the source at the time, but i'm sure it's worked itself out over 10 years or so |
| 13:52.51 | Lopeppeppy | I lived in Woburn, MA before here, so I'm kind of prejudiced not to drink tap water (location of the litigation behind the movie A Civil Action) |
| 13:53.02 | Mr_Rabies2 | haven't seen it :O |
| 13:53.16 | Mr_Rabies2 | our tap water's great and bottled water's just a waste of money most of the time |
| 13:53.17 | Lopeppeppy | Toxic waste in the municipal wells for many, many years. |
| 13:53.34 | Punkie` | man you guys seem to have it hard |
| 13:53.41 | Punkie` | I drink from the tap a lot of the time |
| 13:53.56 | Mr_Rabies2 | hell i drink from the water hose occasionally still |
| 13:54.19 | Mr_Rabies2 | a little bacteria does the immune system good |
| 13:54.23 | End | the tap water in my apartment is fine |
| 13:54.38 | Lopeppeppy | Where my parents live, you can drink from the natural springs, eat the fish that you catch, and lick up a mud puddle if you want to. |
| 13:54.47 | Mr_Rabies2 | heh |
| 13:55.03 | Mr_Rabies2 | i visited an artisian well when i was visiting my parents in wisconsin |
| 13:55.08 | Mr_Rabies2 | it was pretty cool |
| 13:55.25 | Mr_Rabies2 | huge manual pump with a grate over it |
| 13:56.08 | Mr_Rabies2 | there's also a fairly famous spring nearby that we used to get water from when i was little |
| 13:56.17 | Lopeppeppy | The natural springs just bubble out of the rocks in the Park, boil the water in the spring due to runoff, but the rock filters everything the rest of the year. There's not municipal water to a lot of areas at home -- it's a well, or a spring, or nothing. |
| 13:56.30 | Mr_Rabies2 | as i grew up i soon realized that paying more than a cent a gallon is just dumb |
| 13:56.51 | Mr_Rabies2 | i mean, it's the most abundant thing on the planet and very little if any will ever leave the planet |
| 13:57.25 | Lopeppeppy | But so much of it is unfit for humans to drink.... it's where so much of our waste winds up. |
| 13:57.56 | Mr_Rabies2 | it's not all that hard to filter it out properly |
| 13:58.14 | Mr_Rabies2 | and the source is pretty consistently checked for potability |
| 13:58.16 | Lopeppeppy | Hard to learn how, for some people. People am dumb. |
| 13:58.39 | Mr_Rabies2 | hell i've drank water from a creek before |
| 13:58.43 | Mr_Rabies2 | a little boiling and you're good to go |
| 13:59.11 | Mr_Rabies2 | if you've got the ability to distill it, even better, but that takes time :x |
| 13:59.33 | Punkie` | need portable brita water filter |
| 14:00.14 | Mr_Rabies2 | meh |
| 14:00.16 | Lopeppeppy | Portable filter, the purification tablets... lots of ways. |
| 14:00.22 | Mr_Rabies2 | a couple iodine tablets if you're worried |
| 14:00.35 | Mr_Rabies2 | boiling it does the trick if you've got access to a way to get it to boil |
| 14:01.06 | Mr_Rabies2 | i've never been a germ freak :P |
| 14:01.23 | Mr_Rabies2 | i shared my water bottle with ~10 or so people every day at marching band practice and never got sick |
| 14:01.33 | Lopeppeppy | I'm not a germ freak, per se, but I know how bad the pollution from a decaying animal can be. That's different to me. |
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| 14:02.17 | Mr_Rabies2 | my dad's germ paranoid though, it's so weird |
| 14:02.19 | Punkie` | ah well, people eat roadkill |
| 14:02.49 | Mr_Rabies2 | he grew up in rural alabama drinking straight from a stagnant stream and using an outhouse on a daily basis, but now he's a germ freak |
| 14:02.49 | Lopeppeppy | Boil it enough, Punkie, and it's all edible. |
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| 14:03.13 | Mr_Rabies2 | roadkill's pretty edible if you process it within an hour or so |
| 14:03.24 | Punkie` | i doubt it'd be delicious |
| 14:03.30 | Lopeppeppy | If you hit it, you keep it, 9 times out of 10 in the Park. |
| 14:03.33 | Mr_Rabies2 | i know a couple of people that have taken freshly killed deer and gotten it processed and ate it |
| 14:04.12 | Lopeppeppy | Why not? Saves the forest rangers from having to deal with the carcass, everyone wins. And there's still a subsistence economy in a large part of the Adirondack north. |
| 14:04.55 | End | eating fresh roadkill seems weird to me, but I don't think there's anything particularly bad about it |
| 14:05.31 | Mr_Rabies2 | as long as you cook it it's not like it's much different than shooting it |
| 14:05.34 | End | (you would need to know how prepare it, but that's the case of anything you kill and eat) |
| 14:05.39 | zenzelezz | the only particularly weird thing about eating roadkill is how it died |
| 14:05.41 | Lopeppeppy | If you hit it, you know where it came from. *shrug* |
| 14:06.30 | Mr_Rabies2 | you kill it, we grill it |
| 14:06.37 | Lopeppeppy | Exactly. |
| 14:07.15 | Mr_Rabies2 | i'd have to say the strangest thing i've ever eaten is goat though |
| 14:07.17 | Mr_Rabies2 | i don't know why |
| 14:07.24 | Mr_Rabies2 | but i've never really taken to goats as meat animasl |
| 14:07.27 | Mr_Rabies2 | animals* |
| 14:07.36 | Mr_Rabies2 | or rabbit, until i had it |
| 14:07.53 | End | I've heard of rabbit more, although rabbit doesn't sound very meaty |
| 14:07.57 | Mr_Rabies2 | i dunno though, ostrich was a bit out of the ordinary |
| 14:08.01 | Punkie` | you can get rabbit in chinese |
| 14:08.09 | Mr_Rabies2 | rabbit tastes pretty much exactly like chicken in my experience |
| 14:08.14 | Mr_Rabies2 | i didn't realize it was rabbit until after i was done |
| 14:08.17 | End | interesting |
| 14:08.19 | Lopeppeppy | Rabbit, ostrich, buffalo, dolphin, bear, beaver, squirrel.... it's all meat. |
| 14:08.31 | Mr_Rabies2 | i had gator jerky before |
| 14:08.37 | Mr_Rabies2 | not very appetizing :/ |
| 14:08.39 | End | o_O |
| 14:08.44 | Punkie` | my dad went to china on a business trip before |
| 14:08.46 | Lopeppeppy | Neat concept, but I don't like jerky much at all. |
| 14:08.48 | Mr_Rabies2 | tasted like beef jerky but about a thousand times tougher |
| 14:08.53 | cogwheel | Sorry for the blur... lighting was not conducive to flash and no flash was a bit shaky... http://ctscreens.net/8379 |
| 14:08.55 | Mr_Rabies2 | oh i'm a jerky addict |
| 14:09.00 | End | yeah, I'd imagine it'd be tough |
| 14:09.13 | cogwheel | Mr_Rabies2: Tillamook beefsteak nuggets 4tw |
| 14:09.18 | Punkie` | and got taken to this expensive restraunt, where they brought a live monkey in and cracked its head open so people could eat it's brain o.O |
| 14:09.36 | Mr_Rabies2 | anduinlothar looks like he'd be happy plundering a nearby village with his cool hat :D |
| 14:09.47 | Mr_Rabies2 | for some reason he's always looked like some kind of viking to me |
| 14:09.49 | End | that is pretty blurry o_O |
| 14:09.54 | End | but cool just the same |
| 14:10.06 | Lopeppeppy | Not too blurry for me to see and cheer the token female in the group. |
| 14:10.19 | cogwheel | There were about 8 cameras there so i'm sure someone will have better ones |
| 14:11.05 | Mr_Rabies2 | man |
| 14:11.10 | Mr_Rabies2 | if only ckknight had gone |
| 14:11.19 | End | it's kinda weird seeing people after seeing their avatars on the forums though..I mean I always thought cogwheel would look like a gear or a gnome or both |
| 14:11.21 | zenzelezz | wait, none of those are elves :-o |
| 14:11.42 | cogwheel | zenzelezz: cairenn had her ears tucked in :P |
| 14:11.44 | Lopeppeppy | No code monkey elves. |
| 14:12.07 | Mr_Rabies2 | yeah it's weird seeing people looking completely different than your mental picture of them |
| 14:12.52 | Mr_Rabies2 | seriously though |
| 14:12.57 | End | I've seen a few of their pictures before though (slouken in particular) |
| 14:13.01 | Mr_Rabies2 | i can't be the only one getting a viking vibe off AnduinLothar |
| 14:13.16 | End | Mr_Rabies2: you aren't the only one |
| 14:13.22 | cogwheel | yeah. I've seen slouken, cairenn (ever so briefly on wowi), & cladhaire |
| 14:13.40 | Lopeppeppy | Everyone looks just as they should -- happy to be at Blizcon and to be together in the picture. |
| 14:13.42 | End | I've seen Cairenn briefly I think |
| 14:13.56 | Mr_Rabies2 | i'd love to have met metzen and/or samwise :[ |
| 14:14.14 | Mr_Rabies2 | those guys are great :o |
| 14:14.31 | Mr_Rabies2 | the two of them are a majority of the creative focus behind blizzard :D |
| 14:14.46 | End | (Actually, I wish I could have gone just to hang out with everyone :P) |
| 14:14.48 | cogwheel | i can't wait to see what comes of the movie |
| 14:14.57 | Mr_Rabies2 | metzen was almost all the creative focus for warcraft 1 and 2 |
| 14:14.57 | zenzelezz | I remember how impressed I was with Metzen's drawings in the Warcraft II manual back when I first got that |
| 14:14.59 | Mr_Rabies2 | especially 1 |
| 14:15.05 | Mr_Rabies2 | i think he did almost all the voices in 1 |
| 14:15.29 | zenzelezz | Your soundcard wuuurks purfectly. |
| 14:15.33 | Mr_Rabies2 | metzen's art isn't nearly as detailed as samwise's but it definitely helped shape the warcraft style |
| 14:15.34 | End | hahahaha |
| 14:15.39 | End | zenzelezz: I remember that! |
| 14:16.05 | Mr_Rabies2 | i can emulate a frighteningly large amount of blizzard characters |
| 14:16.25 | cogwheel | I can do a pretty convincing human peon from WCII |
| 14:16.33 | Mr_Rabies2 | it still throws me off that cam clarke is the blood elf player character and Kael'thas |
| 14:16.41 | zenzelezz | I dun wanna do dis! |
| 14:16.51 | End | also, it just occured to me how...natural the blue colored names hovering above the people's heads in cogwheel's pic looked |
| 14:16.56 | Lopeppeppy | *laugh* |
| 14:17.11 | zenzelezz | should've flagged some of them |
| 14:17.14 | Mr_Rabies2 | if you're not sure who cam clarke is |
| 14:17.22 | Mr_Rabies2 | he was liquid snake in metal gear solid |
| 14:17.25 | cogwheel | aww... yeah... |
| 14:17.42 | Mr_Rabies2 | every time a blood elf player talked or kael talked i kept waiting to here ....BROTHER! at the end |
| 14:17.44 | cogwheel | esamynn & cladhaire had to drag cairenn kicking & screaming from behind that glass |
| 14:17.49 | cogwheel | :P |
| 14:18.05 | End | can |
| 14:18.06 | End | er |
| 14:18.09 | zenzelezz | always the mystery mistress, eh |
| 14:18.11 | Lopeppeppy | Awwww... Cairenn is shy? |
| 14:18.12 | End | not surprised :P |
| 14:18.16 | cogwheel | camera shy |
| 14:18.29 | cogwheel | but definitely not shy in general ;) |
| 14:18.49 | Lopeppeppy | I'm not much for cameras either, and totally not shy... I can dig that. |
| 14:18.53 | cogwheel | anyway... another day to slog through |
| 14:18.59 | Lopeppeppy | Gah, yes. |
| 14:19.05 | End | gah, indeed |
| 14:19.42 | Mr_Rabies2 | dammit |
| 14:19.55 | Punkie` | What?! It's like 3.20pm, work is almost over! |
| 14:20.12 | Mr_Rabies2 | it just occured to me i have to lose my epic beard to go to dragon*con to keep from being mistaken for a halfassed hagrid cosplay |
| 14:20.25 | Lopeppeppy | For some Brits, perhaps. For some of us East Coast USA types, it's too frellin' early still. |
| 14:21.35 | Mr_Rabies2 | http://www.sonsofthestorm.com/images/metzen/WarCraft_Metzen026b.jpg |
| 14:21.45 | Mr_Rabies2 | i can't be the only one that hears the warcraft 2 menu music upon viewing that |
| 14:21.58 | End | and you aren't |
| 14:22.15 | End | That particular picture is one of the most familiar warcraft 2 graphics to me ;p |
| 14:22.43 | zenzelezz | the WC2 music was great |
| 14:22.53 | Mr_Rabies2 | i still crack up every time i see the samwise spell icon |
| 14:22.56 | End | hehehe |
| 14:23.39 | Mr_Rabies2 | mainly because when i first saw it i didn't know who it was |
| 14:23.40 | Mr_Rabies2 | so i was like |
| 14:23.46 | Lopeppeppy | My cat gets peeved when I dance at my desk... so fussy. |
| 14:23.52 | Mr_Rabies2 | who is this goofy looking guy staring into my soul on this spell icon |
| 14:24.27 | zenzelezz | Lopeppeppy: SS or it didn't happen |
| 14:24.41 | TS|Skrom | Lopeppeppy :-) |
| 14:25.35 | Mr_Rabies2 | samwise also gets bonus points for being an album artist for hammerfall |
| 14:25.53 | Lopeppeppy | Tons of screenshots on the same old site, zenzelezz! |
| 14:26.21 | Mr_Rabies2 | hell, a couple of helms in wow use the hammerfall dude for an icon |
| 14:26.21 | zenzelezz | of you dancing? ;-o |
| 14:26.22 | Mr_Rabies2 | http://www.sonsofthestorm.com/images/samwise/Personal_Samwise018c.jpg |
| 14:26.57 | Lopeppeppy | *laugh* No, pictures of my cat being peeved. Remember, I said I sympathized with Cairenn's camera-thing? Cameras are the tool of the devil, unless you're a model or an airbrush artist. |
| 14:27.13 | Mr_Rabies2 | or a photographer |
| 14:27.17 | zenzelezz | you can trust meeee :-p |
| 14:27.54 | Lopeppeppy | I'm a chick. I trust no one on the internet, and very few in reality. Therefore, I am alive in an urban area. |
| 14:28.02 | zenzelezz | hehe |
| 14:28.44 | Lopeppeppy | I'm considering a gated community for my next apartment complex.... |
| 14:28.56 | TS|Skrom | Lopeppeppy the tanktattler is nearing completion. Just have to figure out what all chat messages I need to parse and get them parsed'd |
| 14:29.14 | zenzelezz | Lopeppeppy: what's that, and why? |
| 14:29.37 | Mr_Rabies2 | i trust no one on the internet either |
| 14:29.44 | Mr_Rabies2 | i've been to the various chans |
| 14:29.52 | Mr_Rabies2 | i know what people can do with a simple photo |
| 14:29.54 | Lopeppeppy | zenzelezz, it's a complex that has a gated entrance, with security guard, you only get in with your keycard or if you come to meet your guest in person. |
| 14:30.34 | art3mis | lope: on that same note how can we trust you're a chick ;P |
| 14:30.35 | zenzelezz | that leaves the "why", are things really that bad over there? |
| 14:30.45 | Punkie` | Erm well, the funny thing is, 2 of the supposed girls in my guild turned out to be guys and went emo when they were found out :p |
| 14:30.46 | art3mis | it is irc afterall ;P |
| 14:30.57 | zenzelezz | art3mis: not like it matters anyway |
| 14:31.04 | art3mis | true enough i suppose |
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| 14:31.20 | Lopeppeppy | art3mis, you can't. *shrug* But liars never do get very far in life. |
| 14:31.21 | art3mis | thats one of the things i love about irc |
| 14:31.30 | art3mis | sex and race matter not |
| 14:31.47 | art3mis | lope: perhaps you've never met Mr.Trump ;P |
| 14:31.50 | Mr_Rabies2 | bwahahah Punkie` |
| 14:31.58 | End | well, they shouldn't matter, and I don't care, but some people will try to make them matter :P |
| 14:32.11 | Lopeppeppy | zenzelezz... it's not that things are bad. I just miss the safety of my totally rural life, and dream that a gated community would be better. *shrug* I do not like being a small white female in the urban areas. |
| 14:32.21 | Mr_Rabies2 | i had a male roommate that roleplayed a female character in a text based gundam rpg |
| 14:32.31 | art3mis | end: well yeah they dont matter much in real life either, it's just a lot easier to judge people on thier intelligence on irc ;P |
| 14:32.38 | Mr_Rabies2 | that was a bit weird but i wasn't going to be one to judge |
| 14:32.41 | zenzelezz | would you rather be a big white female? o_O |
| 14:32.46 | Punkie` | Mr_Rabies2: I didn't give you this link: http://www.booncontrol.com/forum/showthread.php?t=5714 :P |
| 14:32.47 | art3mis | i always play female characters |
| 14:32.58 | art3mis | it's from my MUD days |
| 14:33.07 | Mr_Rabies2 | at least if you're huge and butch you're less likely to get ganged up on zenz :P |
| 14:33.10 | Lopeppeppy | If it would be someone who wasn't a target, yes, zenzelezz. I'd be anything but who I am. Must take more martial arts classes. |
| 14:33.16 | art3mis | perceived females are treated better and get more free stuff |
| 14:33.26 | Mr_Rabies2 | it was weird |
| 14:33.51 | Mr_Rabies2 | i rolled a female character and never gave any false pretenses to my real life gender, never tried to pass off as a female |
| 14:33.57 | Mr_Rabies2 | yet, people were like 100 times more helpful |
| 14:34.00 | Mr_Rabies2 | it was so weird |
| 14:34.02 | art3mis | yeah |
| 14:34.07 | Punkie` | aye |
| 14:34.10 | art3mis | ive never lied about my sex |
| 14:34.18 | Mr_Rabies2 | eventually it got far too creepy and had to stop playing that character |
| 14:34.32 | art3mis | then again ive only ever pointed it out if asked or someone tried to make a pass at me ;P |
| 14:34.49 | End | well, that's just creepy :P |
| 14:34.52 | Punkie` | "Erm dude, I'm a dude" |
| 14:35.01 | art3mis | i even had a macro for "you do realize im a guy right?" |
| 14:35.05 | [dRaCo] | lol |
| 14:35.19 | Lopeppeppy | I do see a marked difference in how my male paladin and my female rogue are treated in game.... |
| 14:35.28 | Mr_Rabies2 | i had someone like, offer to give me all kinds of gold |
| 14:35.35 | Mr_Rabies2 | then it got into the creepy zone and i was like |
| 14:35.41 | Lopeppeppy | I bet they did, Mr_Rabies2. |
| 14:35.44 | Mr_Rabies2 | whoawhoawhoadude calm down |
| 14:35.54 | zenzelezz | I find this intriguing, I've seen no sign of such difference in treatment other than based on what you hear on voice chat |
| 14:35.59 | Mr_Rabies2 | i'm a guy, i thought you knew that, whoa |
| 14:36.03 | Mr_Rabies2 | then the akward silence came |
| 14:36.10 | End | although, now that my main is a female character, I can say I've seen some change in treatment |
| 14:36.17 | End | although, people who know me haven't changed it all :P |
| 14:36.23 | End | it changed pugs a little bit |
| 14:36.32 | Mr_Rabies2 | i don't treat anyone differently really |
| 14:36.35 | Lopeppeppy | It works both ways -- my male toon gets much more respect than my female toons. |
| 14:36.46 | Lopeppeppy | So there are ups and downs to both shades. |
| 14:36.52 | art3mis | i think people i know forget from time to time since im moody and bitchy a fair amount of time |
| 14:36.58 | End | well, it's funny...everyone still talks to me using my former main's name |
| 14:37.01 | Mr_Rabies2 | i may secretly get a little chuckle behind my back if i know someone's a male playing a female character and using it to get free stuff |
| 14:37.06 | Punkie` | It does depend a little on how you type sometimes |
| 14:37.13 | End | (because..that's who they know me as) |
| 14:37.14 | Lopeppeppy | Same with me, End. 3/4 of the time it's Pep, not Kirwan. |
| 14:37.27 | Punkie` | Like if something drops and you are on a female character, using '^_^' seems to work well :P |
| 14:37.54 | Mr_Rabies2 | but i judge people not by their chromosomes but by their abilities as a group member |
| 14:37.58 | Lopeppeppy | Like emoticons are exclusively female communications. |
| 14:38.16 | Mr_Rabies2 | Lopeppeppy, it does help, using "cutesy smiley faces" |
| 14:38.44 | Mr_Rabies2 | it makes it more believable :P i had to give my roommate some tips on it for his gundam character |
| 14:38.46 | Lopeppeppy | Oh, I know. I'm a roleplayer for tabletop and online, I'm well aware of the ways that I can present different genders. |
| 14:38.54 | Lopeppeppy | My paladin never "giggles", he "chuckles". |
| 14:38.57 | Mr_Rabies2 | i'm pretty sure he may have cybered as a female character but i wasn't about to ask |
| 14:39.12 | Mr_Rabies2 | i was going to leave that as one of the great mysteries of life |
| 14:39.17 | Punkie` | I guess I'm just lazy, I /rofl or /lol at people :/ |
| 14:39.29 | Mr_Rabies2 | because i don't know if i could ever truly look at him the same after that |
| 14:39.45 | Mr_Rabies2 | knowing for a fact that is |
| 14:39.48 | Lopeppeppy | Everyone's sexuality is their gig, NMK is my battle cry. |
| 14:39.54 | art3mis | i snirk |
| 14:40.06 | End | I snerk. |
| 14:40.16 | Punkie` | losers! |
| 14:40.19 | art3mis | its a sneer and a smirk |
| 14:40.24 | art3mis | a snirk |
| 14:40.34 | Mr_Rabies2 | i use rofl far too often |
| 14:40.38 | Lopeppeppy | Oh dear, at least you have more emotional range than a teaspoon. |
| 14:40.43 | End | actually |
| 14:40.44 | Mr_Rabies2 | it's replaced "haha" in my vocabulary :[ |
| 14:40.46 | art3mis | ive never used that phrase or the laugh out loud one |
| 14:40.48 | End | I usually "haha" or "hehe" |
| 14:40.53 | Mr_Rabies2 | like, even in reality it did for a while |
| 14:41.01 | Mr_Rabies2 | i'd actually say "roffle" then silently scold myself |
| 14:41.19 | art3mis | ive said "nod" a few times |
| 14:41.23 | End | I say lol out loud sometimes |
| 14:41.28 | art3mis | and then hoped who i was talking to would miss it |
| 14:41.35 | Mr_Rabies2 | yeah, i say "lawl" out loud occasionally |
| 14:41.38 | Punkie` | It feels nice to say lol out loud |
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| 14:41.44 | Mr_Rabies2 | usually around my nerd friends so it works |
| 14:41.45 | Punkie` | Just so long as it isn't a lolol |
| 14:41.47 | End | lolol |
| 14:41.51 | Punkie` | :D |
| 14:41.54 | End | :P |
| 14:41.57 | art3mis | iolo |
| 14:41.59 | Mr_Rabies2 | we call each other by our nicknames despite knowing each other before we played games together |
| 14:42.14 | art3mis | hehe my wife still calls me art from time to time |
| 14:42.15 | End | actually, I probably say lol out loud more than I say it in text. |
| 14:42.25 | Mr_Rabies2 | "hey, llama, come here and check out this quake match" |
| 14:42.27 | art3mis | cuz ive had this nick for such a long time and on most muds |
| 14:42.32 | Mr_Rabies2 | "okay rabies, one sec, lemme fire up azureus" |
| 14:42.58 | Lopeppeppy | Canned air works well to scare the kitty out from under the computer desk... |
| 14:43.02 | art3mis | mmmmmmmmmmmmm yummy! |
| 14:43.07 | Mr_Rabies2 | don't turn the can upside down |
| 14:43.15 | Mr_Rabies2 | not unless you want a catsicle |
| 14:43.17 | Lopeppeppy | And I refer to my mate alternately as "her" and "him" depending on which character he's playing at the time... |
| 14:43.27 | art3mis | amaretto international creamer is as good as i remember |
| 14:43.29 | End | cats don't like the bittering agent either :P |
| 14:43.30 | Lopeppeppy | I like me some catsicle, if she doesn't leave my cords alone. |
| 14:43.40 | Mr_Rabies2 | i generally refer to people as their character gender unless i'm sure |
| 14:43.52 | Mr_Rabies2 | but i never get into the creepy zone |
| 14:44.01 | art3mis | hehe we had a guild talk about taht a few weeks ago |
| 14:44.11 | art3mis | if the person plays female it's her and she |
| 14:44.18 | art3mis | ifits a male character its him and his |
| 14:44.28 | art3mis | player's actual gender means nothing |
| 14:44.57 | Mr_Rabies2 | because 1) i like to retain friendships with guildies and 2) things get awkward if it heads towards the creepy zone and two straight males manage to collide |
| 14:45.03 | art3mis | if they get pissy about it they shouldnt have picked a female character ;P |
| 14:45.08 | art3mis | nope im not |
| 14:45.17 | End | hmm, interesting |
| 14:45.23 | Mr_Rabies2 | i talk to people in vent too much |
| 14:45.32 | Punkie` | me too |
| 14:45.32 | art3mis | while i could pull off bitchy female decently enough, i tend to lapse |
| 14:45.41 | End | for my guild it's whatever is known |
| 14:45.45 | Mr_Rabies2 | there's no way i could refer to any of the guildies that play female characters as "her" when it sounds like barry white on the other end |
| 14:45.55 | End | haha |
| 14:45.58 | Lopeppeppy | I'm on an RP realm, but the habit was settled from my tabletop days, it just carries into WoW. It's polite to refer to unknown by their character gender, I find. |
| 14:46.01 | Punkie` | I need to buy a good headset btw, any recommendations? |
| 14:46.15 | art3mis | one that doesnt suck ;P |
| 14:46.22 | Mr_Rabies2 | my friend had nothing but great success with the 20 dollar logitech ones |
| 14:46.31 | art3mis | i liked mine |
| 14:46.38 | Mr_Rabies2 | i personally use a plantronics dsp-500 |
| 14:46.41 | Mr_Rabies2 | but it's a bit outdated now |
| 14:46.44 | art3mis | accidently snapped the plastic brace though |
| 14:46.46 | Lopeppeppy | I'm using a $30 Plantronics. |
| 14:46.55 | End | my headset annoyed the crap out of me for the first few months I had it...it used to hurt my ear pretty bad |
| 14:46.58 | Punkie` | well, I think the problem is I think my mic input is a bit broken |
| 14:47.07 | Punkie` | it makes my voice sound clouded or whatever |
| 14:47.10 | End | (as if, it didn't fit me or something) |
| 14:47.18 | Mr_Rabies2 | duct tape that crap back together art3mis :P |
| 14:47.28 | Lopeppeppy | That could be your settings in Vent or TS? I find that TS is quite cloudy for all voices. |
| 14:47.45 | Mr_Rabies2 | my friend ghettorigged a headset together using parts from like 3 pairs of headphones and a microphone |
| 14:47.57 | End | haha |
| 14:48.00 | Punkie` | Yeah, I run the vent server and have the codec to maximum quality |
| 14:48.04 | art3mis | mr_rab: funny you should say that, thats exactly what i did |
| 14:48.05 | Mr_Rabies2 | it depends on the codec, lopeppy |
| 14:48.18 | Mr_Rabies2 | to me, teamspeak sounds better at max quality on speex |
| 14:48.30 | art3mis | i have one of those huge rolls of duct tape just in case anything breaks around the house ;P |
| 14:48.39 | Lopeppeppy | then I've only experienced bad codecs on TS. Our Vent is crystal-clear, but the TS always sounds like everyone is an Australian with a cold. |
| 14:48.40 | Punkie` | I thought you couldn't get 44Khz codecs in TS? |
| 14:48.52 | Mr_Rabies2 | i dunno |
| 14:49.02 | Punkie` | Vent has way better codecs |
| 14:49.10 | Punkie` | so you probably just went on a bad vent server :p |
| 14:49.17 | Mr_Rabies2 | the aussies on my server are always super popular |
| 14:49.20 | art3mis | ts makes baby jesus cry |
| 14:49.22 | Mr_Rabies2 | "oh hey you're an aussie, awesome" |
| 14:49.29 | Mr_Rabies2 | it's like the puppy dog eyes of the accent world |
| 14:49.35 | art3mis | hah |
| 14:49.36 | Mr_Rabies2 | you just can't get mad after hearing the accent |
| 14:49.46 | zenzelezz | had an Aussie girl in my guild back on the US server, she was quite popular on Ventrilo |
| 14:49.49 | End | I used to be in a guild with a lot of Aussies :P |
| 14:49.56 | End | (and I mean a lot) |
| 14:49.59 | Punkie` | I think we have the same with the Scottish and Irish accent in the UK |
| 14:50.05 | Mr_Rabies2 | bwahaha |
| 14:50.10 | Mr_Rabies2 | we get the occasional scotsman |
| 14:50.12 | End | funny thing though |
| 14:50.12 | Mr_Rabies2 | but it's incredibly rare |
| 14:50.15 | Lopeppeppy | Our few British accents get a lot of love, followed by my Irish/Southern accent when I'm tired. |
| 14:50.20 | Mr_Rabies2 | when it pops up though it elicits an awesome response |
| 14:50.31 | Punkie` | Haha |
| 14:50.40 | End | I was in a partial pug, with some RL friends and an aussie guildies, and my RL friends couldn't understand the Aussie, but I could understand perfectly fine |
| 14:50.41 | Mr_Rabies2 | i made one recite dwarf quotes for like an hour once |
| 14:50.52 | Lopeppeppy | *giggle* |
| 14:51.10 | Mr_Rabies2 | there was this mage in the guild that had the greatest voice ever |
| 14:51.12 | art3mis | haha sounds likemy tendency to make russians say "nuclear vessel" |
| 14:51.24 | Mr_Rabies2 | she had this really smooth southern accent |
| 14:51.33 | Mr_Rabies2 | it wasn't the gritty nasty jerry sounding one |
| 14:51.37 | Mr_Rabies2 | jerry springer rather |
| 14:51.52 | Mr_Rabies2 | she was real popular |
| 14:51.58 | Mr_Rabies2 | she was the guild mom basically though |
| 14:52.02 | art3mis | i thought jerry from strangers with candy |
| 14:52.07 | Punkie` | I doubt I could notice if someone was a Northern or Southern American speaker |
| 14:52.13 | Mr_Rabies2 | she always made sure we had all our reagents and enough food and water and everything |
| 14:52.16 | Mr_Rabies2 | it was pretty funny |
| 14:52.26 | Mr_Rabies2 | she actually WAS one of our rogues' moms |
| 14:52.34 | Punkie` | haha |
| 14:52.41 | Mr_Rabies2 | she was a pretty good player, always pretty high on the damage meters in mc and whatnot |
| 14:52.42 | art3mis | heh yeah we had a mom and son in my last guild |
| 14:52.49 | Mr_Rabies2 | he was awful |
| 14:52.51 | TS|Skrom | was that the rogue you made fun of in TS? |
| 14:52.59 | Mr_Rabies2 | yes |
| 14:53.08 | Mr_Rabies2 | and his mom got mad and i hid in TS for the rest of the night |
| 14:53.09 | art3mis | shammy mom and hunter kid, appearantly thier entire family played wow as one of those "family" activities |
| 14:53.15 | Punkie` | I've seen a few dad/sons |
| 14:53.16 | art3mis | instead of borad games n stuff |
| 14:53.16 | Mr_Rabies2 | i mimiced his voice |
| 14:53.21 | art3mis | board |
| 14:53.24 | Mr_Rabies2 | his voice was cracking really badly and stuff |
| 14:53.36 | Mr_Rabies2 | and i usually talk to my friends in a seperate voice server |
| 14:53.43 | Mr_Rabies2 | to make fun of bad guildies behind their backs |
| 14:53.50 | Mr_Rabies2 | my RL friends |
| 14:53.50 | TS|Skrom | I railed on some kid in guild chat. Didn't know his parents were the raid leaders |
| 14:53.52 | End | hmm, I've had it where there was a mom with a bad rogue son :O |
| 14:53.53 | TS|Skrom | oops |
| 14:53.54 | art3mis | oh have you seen the commercials for Super Bad ? |
| 14:53.54 | TS|Skrom | LFG! |
| 14:54.07 | Mr_Rabies2 | and i accidentally hit the guild chat button instead of the one with my friends' chat |
| 14:54.14 | art3mis | ya know that one dorky kid that talks like he's O G? |
| 14:54.14 | Mr_Rabies2 | and made fun of the guy right to his face and his mom's |
| 14:54.28 | art3mis | thats what i always picturewhen our old guild warlock used to talk |
| 14:54.34 | Mr_Rabies2 | i want to see super bad so much :O |
| 14:54.34 | art3mis | he was like 14 or so |
| 14:54.58 | Mr_Rabies2 | i hear the cast and writing is like awesomely spot on |
| 14:55.00 | Punkie` | Ventrilo has an awesome recording thing |
| 14:55.02 | art3mis | i never talk on vent |
| 14:55.10 | TS|Skrom | I'm tired :( |
| 14:55.12 | Punkie` | You can record people's voices and double click their soundbytes |
| 14:55.16 | art3mis | but i type out my responses to topics there in guild chat |
| 14:55.16 | Mr_Rabies2 | they make fun of each other for most of the movie and it never gets stale |
| 14:55.21 | TS|Skrom | I was stupidly up til 4:30 last night. Alarmo goes off at 6 |
| 14:55.31 | Mr_Rabies2 | Punkie`, you ever see the ventrilo harassment videos? |
| 14:55.33 | art3mis | which is prettyfunny for those NOT on vent |
| 14:55.56 | Punkie` | Yeah awesome |
| 14:56.05 | Punkie` | Aww dude 4 strength 4 stam leather belt?! |
| 14:56.14 | [dRaCo] | imba! |
| 14:56.38 | art3mis | BALLS OF STEEL! |
| 14:56.50 | Mr_Rabies2 | i picked that belt up on an alt |
| 14:57.02 | Mr_Rabies2 | and proceeded to spam every channel with it and yelling that |
| 14:57.22 | Punkie` | hehe |
| 14:57.42 | Mr_Rabies2 | http://www.wowhead.com/?item=6382#m0z |
| 14:57.46 | Mr_Rabies2 | check the comments |
| 14:58.03 | Lopeppeppy | Okay, Vent geeks. I hear there is a way to bind a key to talk to individuals privately, but I can't find documentation on how to do these things. Any pointers? |
| 14:58.17 | Punkie` | hehe |
| 14:58.23 | Mr_Rabies2 | keybindings section somewhere, i forget |
| 14:58.29 | Punkie` | Lopeppeppy: it's easy |
| 14:58.32 | Mr_Rabies2 | i had mine spam random things over text to speech using it |
| 14:58.51 | Mr_Rabies2 | like "LOOT THE DOGS" in microsoft sam voice :P |
| 14:58.56 | nevcairiel | lol |
| 14:59.03 | Punkie` | press '->' next to bindings |
| 14:59.19 | Mr_Rabies2 | our guild leader almost disbanded the guild because people weren't looting dogs |
| 14:59.35 | Mr_Rabies2 | he would fly into furious rages when he wasn't drunk or high or both during raids |
| 14:59.37 | Punkie` | function, push to talk advanced, transmit style user to user |
| 14:59.44 | zenzelezz | we had FFA in Molten Core since people wouldn't loot the dogs |
| 14:59.51 | Punkie` | set the user, set the bind key and press add |
| 14:59.53 | Mr_Rabies2 | he was our main tank too |
| 15:00.02 | Mr_Rabies2 | drunk/high main tank guild leader |
| 15:00.07 | Punkie` | but you need to select the bindings all the time from the dropdown |
| 15:00.10 | Mr_Rabies2 | never could be any problems with that, could there be? |
| 15:00.36 | Mr_Rabies2 | we wiped on vael like 50 times one night |
| 15:00.49 | art3mis | wonder why no-ones written an on screen vent addon |
| 15:00.53 | Mr_Rabies2 | and about once every 5 tries he'd just accidentally run into vael while we were still buffing up |
| 15:00.54 | art3mis | aside from that dx one |
| 15:01.05 | End | ouch |
| 15:01.06 | Mr_Rabies2 | there's one that uses keybindings and addon channel art3mis |
| 15:01.09 | zenzelezz | how else would you do it art3mis? |
| 15:01.20 | Mr_Rabies2 | but other people have to use the addon for you to see them |
| 15:01.21 | art3mis | zen: iu dunno but i see TS ones so.... |
| 15:01.37 | Mr_Rabies2 | you bind it to the same key as your PTT key and when you press it ingame it pops up the thing |
| 15:01.37 | zenzelezz | that work the same way, hacking into DX |
| 15:01.39 | Lopeppeppy | I love you, Punkie` ! Now I know how the bastiches are doing it, so I can ream them out when I have to.... |
| 15:01.40 | End | in the past, we've had people run into vael's tail mostly because they forgot it wasn't the first attempt anymore |
| 15:01.50 | art3mis | mr_rab: is there? how good does it work? |
| 15:01.59 | Mr_Rabies2 | good if everyone has it installed |
| 15:02.12 | Mr_Rabies2 | they just bind it to the PTT key and while they have the key held down it shows their name |
| 15:02.23 | art3mis | neat |
| 15:02.32 | Mr_Rabies2 | it can't interface through vent at all, so you just bind it to the same key |
| 15:02.42 | Lopeppeppy | Ah. I was using Vent Info Fubar plugin, and it was doing nothing for me. that would be why! Everyone has to have it to play well together. |
| 15:02.56 | Mr_Rabies2 | not much of a reason to use it anyway once 2.2 rolls out |
| 15:02.56 | Mr_Rabies2 | :D |
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| 15:03.14 | art3mis | heh and we thought thier servers were laggy before ;P |
| 15:03.30 | Lopeppeppy | So not going there, Mr_Rabies2. We'll keep our own Vent so we know how it works and can oversee it our own way. |
| 15:03.48 | art3mis | im gonna have my ingame almost always disabled |
| 15:03.50 | Punkie` | It's awesome when you push to talk whisper people on vent with inane questions so they respond stupidly over the channel |
| 15:03.59 | Mr_Rabies2 | it's useful for people who aren't in the raid |
| 15:04.11 | Mr_Rabies2 | but other than that the ingame stuff just works :D |
| 15:04.37 | Mr_Rabies2 | plus you can mute people and other stuff |
| 15:04.39 | Lopeppeppy | That's what we're getting, Punkie`, and it's driving our raid leaders crazy. Now that I know how they're doing it, I'm justified in kicking the kiddie-jerks out of the raid. |
| 15:04.51 | End | I'd be REALLY surprised if the voice chat stuff was on the same server as gameplay |
| 15:04.53 | Punkie` | Lopeppeppy: do you own your own server? |
| 15:05.01 | Mr_Rabies2 | i look forward to not having to tab out and other stuff |
| 15:05.03 | End | it'll probably be on same server as normal chat |
| 15:05.16 | End | which I've often had not lag while everything else does lag |
| 15:05.18 | Punkie` | Lopeppeppy: or at least, can manage the server you use |
| 15:05.27 | Mr_Rabies2 | it's a seperate server end |
| 15:05.34 | End | that's what I mean, Mr_Rabies2 |
| 15:05.38 | Mr_Rabies2 | it's its own seperate thing as far as i know |
| 15:05.48 | Mr_Rabies2 | dedicated for just voice chatting |
| 15:06.12 | Mr_Rabies2 | blizzard said there's a server part and a client part to the voice chat |
| 15:06.21 | Mr_Rabies2 | the server part isn't enabled yet and most of the client stuff is |
| 15:06.25 | Mr_Rabies2 | so it's acting up |
| 15:06.37 | End | well, I don't know if they are just integrating the voice/text chat or making them seperate |
| 15:06.44 | Lopeppeppy | Punkie`, I'm an admin on the server, but we rent it from Clanservers. |
| 15:07.07 | Mr_Rabies2 | my server has a public teamspeak server that i don't think anyone uses anymore |
| 15:07.10 | Mr_Rabies2 | except maybe to cyber |
| 15:07.21 | Punkie` | Lopeppeppy: You can turn off "whispering" and "text-to-speech" per channel |
| 15:07.24 | Mr_Rabies2 | i don't know, it's desolate last i checked |
| 15:07.37 | Lopeppeppy | I'm so looking into that as well, Punkie`, thanks. |
| 15:07.40 | Mr_Rabies2 | i'm so going to do that next kara raid |
| 15:07.44 | Punkie` | it's easy |
| 15:08.01 | Punkie` | log into the vent server with your admin password, as you would to kick someone |
| 15:08.02 | Mr_Rabies2 | "hey psocques, what's your favorite kind of sandwich" in whisper |
| 15:08.07 | Lopeppeppy | I assume it's in the channel options there? |
| 15:08.14 | Punkie` | right click a channel, edit it's properties |
| 15:08.14 | Mr_Rabies2 | and he'll respond "what, oh, turkey" and the raid will be confused as hell |
| 15:08.18 | Punkie` | and tick/untick |
| 15:08.53 | Lopeppeppy | Some kiddies are going to be very unhappy with me on Wednesday. *grin* Thanks Punkie`, I've been looking for this info for a few weeks. |
| 15:09.13 | Mr_Rabies2 | i know i'd be confused if some random guildy just blurted something about turkeys out of nowhere during a raid |
| 15:09.13 | Punkie` | no probs |
| 15:09.36 | Mr_Rabies2 | what was happening, Lopeppeppy? |
| 15:09.44 | Punkie` | Mr_Rabies2: it is pretty funny, it just can be annoying :) |
| 15:10.00 | Mr_Rabies2 | yeah |
| 15:10.05 | Mr_Rabies2 | it's all about comedic effect |
| 15:10.08 | Mr_Rabies2 | too much and it gets ruined |
| 15:10.13 | Punkie` | yep |
| 15:10.18 | Mr_Rabies2 | like about once a month or two i'll fake a mistell |
| 15:10.22 | Lopeppeppy | Same sorts of things you've been describing, Mr_Rabies2, but we're not finding it funny anymore, and people have complained to me. |
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| 15:10.34 | Punkie` | Although vent recording can be quite funny |
| 15:10.43 | Mr_Rabies2 | "/r yeah man you bring the hamster i'll bring the mayonnaise, this is gonna be great" |
| 15:10.45 | zenzelezz | did you hear that "karacry" thing on ytmnd? |
| 15:10.48 | Mr_Rabies2 | "...." |
| 15:10.50 | Mr_Rabies2 | "...mt" |
| 15:10.55 | Punkie` | we have this guy who loves blurting out orders, so someone recorded him |
| 15:10.55 | Lopeppeppy | I'm not telling anyone about that, Punkie`, it's too scary. |
| 15:11.18 | Punkie` | and while he was on holiday and we were having a problem with a boss, someone said 'so, whats the prob here?' |
| 15:11.32 | *** join/#wowi-lounge cog|work (n=chatzill@intra.kistlerwine.com) |
| 15:11.42 | Punkie` | and all you got was random parts of his voice like 'Mages gotta decurse! Nothing but decurse!' from old times like Noth :p |
| 15:11.42 | Mr_Rabies2 | someone sing me a lullaby |
| 15:11.47 | Mr_Rabies2 | i'm going to sleep through the raid tonight |
| 15:12.01 | Mr_Rabies2 | :( |
| 15:12.05 | zenzelezz | if you didn't already hear it: http://karacry.ytmnd.com/ (lots of static) [4 min 48 sec] |
| 15:12.10 | zenzelezz | best Vent recording ever |
| 15:12.18 | Mr_Rabies2 | i've got the weirdest circadian rhythm ever |
| 15:12.34 | Mr_Rabies2 | my internal clock is like 26-28 hours and it throws me off so much |
| 15:12.35 | Mr_Rabies2 | :[ |
| 15:13.00 | nevcairiel | lol zenzelezz |
| 15:13.06 | Mr_Rabies2 | i had something like that happen on xbox live far too many times zenz |
| 15:13.07 | zenzelezz | listen to the end |
| 15:13.12 | nevcairiel | at it :P |
| 15:13.12 | zenzelezz | his dad comes on Vent briefly |
| 15:13.16 | Mr_Rabies2 | "MOM I WANT SOME CHOCOLATE MILK" |
| 15:13.17 | nevcairiel | hah |
| 15:13.23 | Mr_Rabies2 | "GET ME SOME FREAKIN CHOCOLATE MILK MOM" |
| 15:13.35 | Mr_Rabies2 | "MOM, I'M PLAYING HALO, I WANT SOME CHOCOLATE MILK" |
| 15:13.36 | zenzelezz | this is better Rabies |
| 15:13.48 | Mr_Rabies2 | yeah, i know, i've seen it :P |
| 15:13.54 | Mr_Rabies2 | it's really all too common on xbox live though |
| 15:14.05 | zenzelezz | wouldn't know, never owned a console |
| 15:14.07 | Mr_Rabies2 | pisses me off that people don't know how to mute themselves |
| 15:14.18 | Mr_Rabies2 | I DON'T WANT TO HEAR YOU BREATHING LOUDLY INTO THE MIC DUMBASS |
| 15:14.19 | Mr_Rabies2 | :[ |
| 15:14.20 | Punkie` | We have a weird person in our guild |
| 15:14.32 | nevcairiel | when they are breathing its bad |
| 15:14.33 | Punkie` | We have this "post a pic of yourself" thread |
| 15:14.38 | Punkie` | on our guild forums |
| 15:14.39 | nevcairiel | but something like this is fun :P |
| 15:14.52 | Punkie` | so this dude posts a pic of himself with a thing saying 'and ofc my bestest friends' |
| 15:15.08 | Punkie` | and then you have another pic of like a dozen cartons of chocolate milk |
| 15:15.10 | Punkie` | o.O |
| 15:15.19 | nevcairiel | lol |
| 15:15.21 | Mr_Rabies2 | speaking of breathing into the mic, someone in my guild hits the PTT as he's taking in a breath like he's about to go freediving in the ocean |
| 15:15.25 | Mr_Rabies2 | it's always like |
| 15:15.50 | Lopeppeppy | My raid leader uses voice-activation, and we have to make her turn off her fan... I can't teach her PTT for the life of me. |
| 15:15.51 | Mr_Rabies2 | "*click* *GAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAASPPPPPP* okay, what we're going to do is..." |
| 15:16.24 | Mr_Rabies2 | and i'm thinking "damn dude, chill out, your lungs are gonna explode, breathe out man, calm down" |
| 15:16.43 | Punkie` | It's funny when people use a desk microphone and a fan, it cut's their speech really weird |
| 15:16.51 | nevcairiel | heh |
| 15:16.52 | zenzelezz | I remember reading about someone using voice activation during a raid... and his wife dropped by the room to offer him some fun |
| 15:17.01 | Mr_Rabies2 | bwahahaha |
| 15:17.08 | nevcairiel | i cannot stand using voice activation myself |
| 15:17.09 | Mr_Rabies2 | you're kinda stuck in that moment |
| 15:17.13 | Mr_Rabies2 | because if you decline |
| 15:17.21 | Mr_Rabies2 | you're the guy that passed up some fun to raid |
| 15:17.34 | nevcairiel | hit the mute button quick^^ |
| 15:17.35 | Mr_Rabies2 | but if you accept, you just let down your raid to get some action |
| 15:17.36 | TS|Skrom | screw that noise |
| 15:17.38 | Mr_Rabies2 | it's lose-lose |
| 15:17.59 | TS|Skrom | I'm pretty sure the guy gettin' some is the winner in that scenario, raid be damned |
| 15:18.16 | Mr_Rabies2 | our raid would probably cheer and boot him out of the raid |
| 15:18.30 | nevcairiel | same here |
| 15:18.34 | nevcairiel | ^^ |
| 15:19.05 | Mr_Rabies2 | i've passed up raids to play alts before |
| 15:19.08 | TS|Skrom | my current guild leader used to be one of my officers in my guild in EQ |
| 15:19.17 | Mr_Rabies2 | but i usually at least made up a good excuse before hand |
| 15:19.26 | TS|Skrom | and back before we ever did any raid stuff we used to hang out in howling stones and chardok and such |
| 15:19.30 | nevcairiel | did the guild know your alts names ? :P |
| 15:19.35 | Mr_Rabies2 | nah |
| 15:19.35 | TS|Skrom | and he'd mysteriously go afk for like 15 mins at a time |
| 15:19.50 | Mr_Rabies2 | i keep those secret incase i ever feel like ninjaing BoEs and selling them on alts |
| 15:19.54 | cog|work | I have to say, by far the funniest moment in the UI panel was when everyone booed at the global variables in ShowMeTheMoney >< |
| 15:19.54 | TS|Skrom | he'd come back and whisper me : sorry, wife jumped me XD |
| 15:19.57 | Mr_Rabies2 | i did a few times in my old guild i hated |
| 15:20.18 | Punkie` | Did you do it in the same guild as Skrom's? :P |
| 15:20.19 | nevcairiel | i have one secret auction alt for that selling |
| 15:20.20 | Mr_Rabies2 | they cut off the Q and A session cog |
| 15:20.26 | nevcairiel | but my play-alts are widely known :P |
| 15:20.30 | Mr_Rabies2 | were there any interesting questions? |
| 15:20.48 | cog|work | Mr_Rabies2: http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=711998742&sid=1 |
| 15:20.49 | Mr_Rabies2 | like "hey, do you mind converting show me the money/the whole interface to ace?" |
| 15:20.55 | jme | am i the only one here with one 70? :( |
| 15:20.58 | nevcairiel | lol |
| 15:21.07 | TS|Skrom | jme I have 0 70's |
| 15:21.14 | End | I have two 70's |
| 15:21.14 | nevcairiel | my warlock is 66, but somehow i dont get movitation to push him to 70 |
| 15:21.19 | jme | TS|Skrom: :o |
| 15:21.20 | cog|work | actually, all the questions were pretty serious (if not entirely intelligent) |
| 15:21.21 | deltron | TS|Skrom: get leveling! |
| 15:21.25 | TS|Skrom | haw |
| 15:21.29 | jme | TS|Skrom: you must rectify that situation |
| 15:21.37 | TS|Skrom | meh |
| 15:21.40 | jme | less UI, more level |
| 15:21.42 | TS|Skrom | I have a 60, a 62 and a 63 |
| 15:21.46 | deltron | I brought my pally into AQ20 last night lol |
| 15:21.48 | Mr_Rabies2 | i think that one has the Q and A cut off cog |
| 15:21.50 | Mr_Rabies2 | or wait |
| 15:21.56 | Mr_Rabies2 | i guess i should read past the 2nd reply |
| 15:22.01 | TS|Skrom | and yet I spend my weekend playing my 31 druid, working on TankTattlerFu and playing Jagged ALliance 2 |
| 15:22.03 | jme | deltron: people still run AQ? |
| 15:22.08 | TS|Skrom | after I recovered from sun stroke |
| 15:22.19 | TS|Skrom | I miss AQ :( |
| 15:22.44 | End | "famously slouken" :P |
| 15:22.45 | deltron | jme: we were bored :P |
| 15:22.45 | zenzelezz | I still wish my guild hadn't made such slow progress in Naxx, only got to see a small portion of it |
| 15:22.48 | End | "yes he is a pirate" |
| 15:22.48 | End | lol |
| 15:23.08 | deltron | we did onyxia before that also |
| 15:23.13 | jme | deltron: heh |
| 15:23.14 | deltron | that was a fun 10 minutes |
| 15:23.18 | TS|Skrom | I REALLY miss Ony :( |
| 15:23.21 | TS|Skrom | such a fun fight |
| 15:23.28 | jme | deltron: i should do those sometime just to say i have.. i never raided before kara |
| 15:23.37 | Mr_Rabies2 | hell we were taking ony out in 10 minutes at 60 :x |
| 15:23.37 | End | I never really liked Ony |
| 15:23.42 | jme | <- nub |
| 15:23.43 | TS|Skrom | I'll transfer my hunter (and gene's mage) over to your server deltron :D |
| 15:23.54 | cog|work | zenzelezz: I don't even know how to get to naxx |
| 15:23.56 | TS|Skrom | You get us puprs ok? :D |
| 15:24.18 | End | naxx has a portal thingy |
| 15:24.32 | End | that you run over basicaly |
| 15:25.05 | Mr_Rabies2 | i stealthed around in naxx on the ptr |
| 15:25.14 | Mr_Rabies2 | before they gave everything stealth detection |
| 15:25.23 | jme | :/ |
| 15:25.23 | Mr_Rabies2 | thaddeus screamed and scared the shit out of me and i ran into a ghoul |
| 15:25.31 | jme | lol |
| 15:25.32 | TS|Skrom | hahaha |
| 15:25.58 | zenzelezz | my (at the time) guild only cleared spider wing + first boss in the others |
| 15:26.20 | Lopeppeppy | My group never saw Naxx, or AQ40, or most of BWL. I'm still sad about that. |
| 15:26.39 | jme | i didn't have a 60 before TBC, so meh |
| 15:26.53 | jme | account created dec 11th, didn't play enough to get up there that fast |
| 15:27.13 | End | I saw most of aq0, and only a little bit of naxx |
| 15:27.21 | End | aq40 that is |
| 15:27.34 | End | I didn't enjoy aq40 that much though, so my attendence was somewhat spotty :P |
| 15:28.14 | zenzelezz | I loved BWL, but Naxx was the first (in my opinion) truly great raid instance |
| 15:28.17 | Lopeppeppy | I just feel bad that we never saw it, that they're sorta obsolete now. And with Bliz moving the enchants to Exalted faction vendors... we never will bother, ever. |
| 15:28.24 | TS|Skrom | Coming from 6 years of playing EQ, going into fights like Kurinaxx and Ony and Shazzrah were always so fun |
| 15:28.37 | zenzelezz | TS|Skrom: how so? |
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| 15:29.01 | End | MC got old fast, BWL was fun, ZG and AQ20 were alright I guess, AQ40 didn't enjoy, Naxx was fun for the little bit I saw |
| 15:29.03 | TS|Skrom | EQ fights prior to the Planes of Power expansion were really stale |
| 15:29.11 | jme | did everyone that played EQ pretty much switch to wow? |
| 15:29.16 | TS|Skrom | tank and spank affairs with a few that stood out |
| 15:29.18 | zenzelezz | my only raiding before WoW was Mercenaries, Pandemonium and a little AI in Anarchy Online... "be the blob + shoot" |
| 15:29.51 | TS|Skrom | pop they finally pulled thier head out of their rear and started making decent encounters |
| 15:30.16 | TS|Skrom | but most if they weren't tank and spank one mob it was "deal with the horde of mini's while tanking and spanking the one mob" |
| 15:30.19 | jme | i got the eq2 demo but i wasn't really impressed |
| 15:30.47 | TS|Skrom | so say Kurinaxx... having to move around and avoid the sand pits while keeping the tank up and still doing damage, that was neat |
| 15:30.58 | TS|Skrom | or Shazzrah, whoa, ranged fight only? neat! |
| 15:31.09 | zenzelezz | hehe |
| 15:31.23 | TS|Skrom | Ony was just a blast for me no matter how you slice it |
| 15:31.29 | End | Ossirian was an interesting fight :P annoyed the crap out of me on my druid initially because I'd always pull aggro off the tank :P |
| 15:31.47 | zenzelezz | I didn't like Ossirian... I sucked at walking backwards to the right spots |
| 15:31.48 | TS|Skrom | was a hunter then and had a great time moving around, feigning off the fireballs during phase 2 and unleashing hell as often as possible :D |
| 15:31.49 | Kaso | Blah UI Panel is just the tutorial that comes with addon tool >.< |
| 15:32.40 | zenzelezz | BC seemed to kill the "Onyxia DBs more??" posts :-| |
| 15:32.52 | TS|Skrom | lol |
| 15:33.01 | End | Prince deep breaths more infernals! |
| 15:33.35 | Lopeppeppy | Oiy. I have yet to hit Prince with my Group 2, not looking forward to it. |
| 15:33.53 | End | prince can be annoying |
| 15:33.54 | zenzelezz | "when you get Enfeeble, run away" "huh?" |
| 15:34.12 | End | it's not -that- hard of a fight though |
| 15:34.14 | TS|Skrom | explain enfeeble prz |
| 15:34.21 | TS|Skrom | seems like the tank would be dead |
| 15:34.31 | zenzelezz | the tank doesn't get it |
| 15:34.38 | jme | Lopeppeppy: i haven't seen prince with either of our groups |
| 15:34.38 | TS|Skrom | well, that answers that |
| 15:34.39 | zenzelezz | unless someone doesn't watch their threat |
| 15:34.40 | jme | :X |
| 15:34.50 | jme | i've been raiding with these guys for a month or so too |
| 15:35.21 | End | it appears the tank -can- get it during a phase transition if an enfeeble happens at the same time, but I've only seen that happen once |
| 15:35.28 | Lopeppeppy | Our Group 2 has been in there about a month now, we're making respectable progress. We should see Illhoof and Prince and Nethersprite in the next few weeks, now that we clear the first 5 in one night. |
| 15:35.41 | jme | Lopeppeppy: yeah, easily |
| 15:35.44 | zenzelezz | End: does he reset threat during phase transition or something then? |
| 15:36.00 | End | possibly, I dunno |
| 15:36.07 | End | tank was about 40k threat above me |
| 15:36.13 | zenzelezz | I just thought the #1 threat was excluded always |
| 15:36.13 | End | and I was highest according to the meter |
| 15:36.24 | End | er, highest sides tank :P |
| 15:36.31 | Lopeppeppy | jme: It's just a question of whether our Group 2 can spank 'em, we're not all well-geared from the first half yet. |
| 15:36.41 | jme | Lopeppeppy: *nod* |
| 15:37.09 | jme | Lopeppeppy: our group 2's concern is mana right now, the healers dont' have all the gear from the first half yet |
| 15:37.10 | End | (it could be that the meter was way off, but I think it was the phase transition that did it) |
| 15:37.11 | zenzelezz | we're usually half alts in Kara now |
| 15:37.15 | Punkie` | Prince is a very fun fight when you do it, look forward to it |
| 15:37.38 | Lopeppeppy | We'll get there, but it's building a lot of hate for the first group who has held tight against letting others sub in to learn fights, even if they're DE'ing most of the gear.... |
| 15:37.43 | jme | do any of you use your S2 arena/veterans gear for raiding? |
| 15:37.48 | zenzelezz | it's fun as long as the infernals aren't acting stupid |
| 15:38.08 | End | I use my S1 arena spell damage dagger |
| 15:38.20 | jme | well |
| 15:38.23 | TS|Skrom | ...*snicker*... *snicker* |
| 15:38.27 | TS|Skrom | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=712249243&postId=7118566282&sid=1#1 |
| 15:38.32 | Lopeppeppy | jme: We're not a PvP sort of group, so no, for the most part there's not PvP gear included. |
| 15:38.34 | [dRaCo] | jme: yeah, the season 2 arena weapon |
| 15:38.37 | jme | as a hunter the only thing i'd be concerned about is the lack of +hit and int |
| 15:38.42 | End | I have the prince dagger, but it's expensive to enchant, and only barely beter |
| 15:38.45 | jme | Lopeppeppy: ahh |
| 15:39.11 | jme | [dRaCo]: meh.. i only have 300 points so far :( |
| 15:39.48 | Punkie` | Mr_Rabies2: Those PM's were mean :< |
| 15:39.52 | TS|Skrom | Lopeppeppy did you skip my post completely? or are you refusing to acknowledge :D |
| 15:40.00 | Mr_Rabies2 | do what |
| 15:40.02 | Mr_Rabies2 | O_o |
| 15:40.16 | Lopeppeppy | I'm innocent, TS|Skrom!!! And re-reading the OP for editing. |
| 15:40.20 | Punkie` | The multi-coloured crazy ones :o |
| 15:40.26 | Mr_Rabies2 | oh for emoting at me |
| 15:40.40 | cog|work | TS|Skrom: <3 |
| 15:40.51 | Punkie` | :o |
| 15:41.06 | End | oh neat |
| 15:41.30 | End | skipping past the tutorial part of the ui panel is useful :P |
| 15:41.34 | End | interesting stuff exists :P |
| 15:41.41 | nevcairiel | that ui panel thing with the tutorial is boring =P |
| 15:41.41 | Lopeppeppy | Better, TS|Skrom? *laugh* |
| 15:41.51 | End | nevcairiel: yeah, there's more than the tutorial though |
| 15:41.55 | TS|Skrom | HAHA |
| 15:42.08 | nevcairiel | End: i know, just scrolled there |
| 15:42.13 | End | the frame explorer could have been written by anyone though I suppose, since we do have enough api though now |
| 15:43.04 | End | oh yeah, right they did change the key binding api |
| 15:43.09 | TS|Skrom | "graze" the roof! |
| 15:43.11 | TS|Skrom | er... |
| 15:43.47 | Kaso | I find it amusing on the UIPanel then Mention about the SmallMoneyFrame's ability to pickup money, even though that pickup-money action is pretty superflous in the current UI. |
| 15:44.09 | Lopeppeppy | This photographer who took the pictures I'm posting on this site sucks. Just sucks. I'm having to bite my tongue to give him credit for this crapjob. |
| 15:44.31 | End | oh neat, slouken is talking about the combat log stuff |
| 15:44.38 | cog|work | TBQH, i was a bit disappointed by the panel itself. I really thought there would be more discussion about the UI itself rather than just a walkthrough of the tutorial addon |
| 15:45.04 | cog|work | But who can argue with gurl programm0rz |
| 15:45.26 | End | was that Rislyn or however you spell her name who was dong the tutorial? |
| 15:45.27 | Punkie` | Kaso: You can pick up money and trade it to people! |
| 15:45.30 | End | doing* |
| 15:45.46 | TS|Skrom | Argue? I find it hard to speak |
| 15:45.56 | Kaso | yah but who does the 20-clicks that takes rather than typing the money into the trade window :> |
| 15:46.11 | nevcairiel | well the combatlog thing is really amazing |
| 15:46.14 | Punkie` | Kaso: I don't know, someone who likes the jingle? |
| 15:46.31 | Kaso | hehe |
| 15:46.34 | Kaso | i like that |
| 15:46.47 | Punkie` | :D |
| 15:46.55 | End | hehe, they posted the wowwiki link! |
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| 15:49.11 | End | so, to be clear, is the combat guid common across players? In otherwords, the Threat meter will just say "hi, I generated 150 threat with mob 17474" and other players in the raid will understand? |
| 15:49.37 | cog|work | it won't say anything about threat |
| 15:49.51 | End | the threat meter will |
| 15:49.56 | End | the addon I mean |
| 15:50.03 | End | you turn...damage and other stuff...into threat :P |
| 15:50.03 | Matrix110 | as it looks like yes |
| 15:50.07 | TS|Skrom | That's what it sounds like to me |
| 15:50.12 | End | and then you tell everyone else about it :P |
| 15:50.33 | Kaso | Let's hear it for global variables "Booo!" |
| 15:50.36 | TS|Skrom | it'd have to be common across everyone otherwise it wouldn't be much of an ID lol |
| 15:50.36 | End | lol |
| 15:50.45 | Matrix110 | parsers arent needed then anymore |
| 15:51.02 | End | well, I'm curious whether it'd be just client side or if it's essentially the server's internal id (or some such) |
| 15:51.11 | cog|work | it's the server's id |
| 15:51.13 | Matrix110 | cant know that yet i guess |
| 15:51.18 | End | ok, cool |
| 15:51.42 | TS|Skrom | and you said you can't pass it back in, so no /targetbyid api |
| 15:51.50 | cog|work | nope |
| 15:52.02 | TS|Skrom | which is pretty freakin' sweet that they got that locked down from the start |
| 15:52.05 | End | yeah, that is understood |
| 15:52.12 | TS|Skrom | man that would be annoying to hear all the whiners if they didn't |
| 15:53.01 | cog|work | It's not like you'd really be able to type an entire GUID in a timely manner anyway |
| 15:53.18 | TS|Skrom | lol |
| 15:53.33 | zenzelezz | copy+paste |
| 15:53.46 | zenzelezz | though I doubt they'll be successive |
| 15:55.00 | TS|Skrom | lawl Tauren Protection Services |
| 15:55.05 | TS|Skrom | think they specialize in TPS reports? |
| 15:55.27 | End | did you get the memo? |
| 15:55.29 | End | ;p |
| 15:56.28 | Lopeppeppy | You've got my stapler. |
| 15:59.09 | jme | has there been an official release date for wotlk yet? |
| 15:59.23 | nevcairiel | lol it was just announced :P |
| 15:59.28 | jme | :o |
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| 15:59.45 | jme | and? :) |
| 16:00.11 | Lopeppeppy | I don't think the ballpark gets any smaller than 2008 at this point. |
| 16:00.14 | nevcairiel | when has blizzard been anywhere fast with release dates? and not like they actually can say a date.. :) |
| 16:00.27 | jme | oh, i thought you meant the release date was just announced |
| 16:00.33 | jme | misunderstood that, sorry |
| 16:00.37 | nevcairiel | no the expansion was |
| 16:00.45 | jme | yeah i watched the stream :) |
| 16:01.25 | End | yeah, we only have a ballpark |
| 16:01.53 | nevcairiel | i cant wait for the closed beta, and hopefully getting in again |
| 16:02.28 | Lopeppeppy | I will live vicariously through those of you who get it. I got into the second round last time, but never could get it to install properly on my system. |
| 16:03.17 | nevcairiel | well i hope they reactivate their old testers, or offer accounts for devs again :) |
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| 16:04.32 | Legorol | about release date, consider this: it's august at the moment, and we still have patches 2.2, 2.3 and 2.4 to go before expansion |
| 16:04.46 | jme | good point |
| 16:04.53 | nevcairiel | or even more then 2.4 |
| 16:04.54 | Legorol | even if they take 1, 2 and 2 months respectively (which is very quick for blizzard), that's january earliest |
| 16:05.15 | Legorol | so the expansion can't possibly be before february, and that was now a very very quick estimate |
| 16:05.15 | jme | i wasn't anticipating anything earlier than january tbh |
| 16:05.26 | Legorol | more realistic would be march |
| 16:05.33 | Lopeppeppy | I'm going to put my money on the June square, for summer play. |
| 16:05.48 | nevcairiel | who plays in summer? |
| 16:05.48 | End | personally, I think around May |
| 16:05.54 | jme | pfft |
| 16:06.06 | jme | heh, i'll be graduated from college then, woo |
| 16:06.18 | nevcairiel | BC hit my exam time .. that was bad =P |
| 16:06.19 | Lopeppeppy | May/June, when the schools are out. It's a big retail push, and Blizz is indeed a retail establishment. |
| 16:06.19 | End | same |
| 16:06.31 | End | (well, hopefully at least *wink*) |
| 16:06.56 | jme | BC hit during my christmas break, but i didn't get it until the end of feb |
| 16:07.11 | End | school started the same week TBC came out |
| 16:07.18 | End | actually, maybe it was the SAME DAY |
| 16:07.24 | jme | lol |
| 16:07.34 | End | I think I missed a few classes |
| 16:09.30 | Lopeppeppy | Ya think? |
| 16:10.05 | cog|work | haha! pwned http://www.bonafidereviews.com/article.php?id=224 |
| 16:10.22 | End | well, that period of time is kinda vague |
| 16:10.29 | End | I don't remember much outside of WoW |
| 16:10.38 | jme | lol |
| 16:11.02 | jme | 357k beta applicants for warhammer |
| 16:11.04 | jme | :O |
| 16:11.05 | Matrix110 | Game came Tuesday |
| 16:11.12 | Matrix110 | so i guess 1 day after school started |
| 16:11.32 | End | I think there were no classes on monday |
| 16:11.48 | jme | i think that was about the same for us too |
| 16:12.04 | jme | i remember seeing a level 70 in stormwind by the end of the week (i still played alliance then) |
| 16:12.44 | End | I remember seeing a level 70 when I was level 65 |
| 16:12.50 | End | so, that'd be about the same for me too |
| 16:13.06 | End | probably sunday after the game came out |
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| 16:13.13 | jme | yeah. |
| 16:13.19 | jme | i saw one on friday |
| 16:13.33 | jme | err, on the friday after the game came out |
| 16:14.09 | End | It took me about 10 days non-played to hit 70 |
| 16:14.43 | jme | i can't imagine doing that in 4 days non played |
| 16:14.51 | End | yeah, me either |
| 16:14.53 | jme | probably didn't sleep at all |
| 16:15.13 | End | I slept, but less than normal. And I think I -did- make it to a couple classes |
| 16:15.24 | End | mostly because others dragged me to them ;-P |
| 16:16.36 | Lopeppeppy | I'm a content whore, I took my time leveling. |
| 16:16.53 | End | well, I am too |
| 16:17.01 | End | I made sure to not skip any quest |
| 16:17.06 | End | and I read most of the quests too :P |
| 16:17.17 | jme | i ignore quest text, except what to kill or pick up :/ |
| 16:17.31 | End | sometimes quest text is interesting |
| 16:17.49 | jme | basically i followed joana's guide and levelled as fast as possible |
| 16:19.05 | zenzelezz | why'd you need a guide? Just do all the quests and it's fast already |
| 16:19.23 | End | there's hardly a lack of quests either |
| 16:19.30 | jme | i just used it for a reference |
| 16:19.44 | End | I could see maybe wanting a guide to not miss any quests if you are trying to complete every single quest |
| 16:19.56 | End | I know I missed a few quests intially |
| 16:20.00 | jme | well, i found the guide was incomplete in some places |
| 16:20.08 | End | ah, well, that wouldn't help :P |
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| 16:24.54 | Lopeppeppy | Doing the quests to level kinda screws up your faction later on though, so it's best not to do it that way if you're concerned about keys and things. |
| 16:25.17 | zenzelezz | eh? |
| 16:25.38 | Legorol | correct |
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| 16:25.48 | Lopeppeppy | Level in the instances, and do the quests after you hit Honored with the relevant faction. |
| 16:25.51 | zenzelezz | I had no problem with factions at all |
| 16:26.13 | Lopeppeppy | I having a bugger of a time getting my paladin into 70 instances to hit revered for heroic keys. |
| 16:26.23 | Legorol | zenzelezz: lot of people do, who find they have to keep redoing the 70 instances to get to revered |
| 16:26.40 | Lopeppeppy | Instance grind is more fun if you're getting rep out of it, I find. |
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| 16:31.42 | zenzelezz | still miss out on a lot of nice quest rewards at the time they'd be useful if you stick to instances |
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| 16:32.18 | TS|Skrom | But they'd only really be useful for the instances to get better stuff from the instances |
| 16:32.26 | TS|Skrom | so instead they are good for cash ^^ |
| 16:32.35 | Lopeppeppy | This is true... but I am hating, hating, hating this LFG nightmare of getting my heroics keys. |
| 16:38.40 | Punkie` | why don't you do guild runs? |
| 16:40.47 | art3mis | pvp a bit get tokens, run shattered a few times poof key |
| 16:41.07 | Lopeppeppy | My guild doesn't have a lot of people. My raiding group is disinterested in anything not Karazhan or Heroic. Thus, LFG. |
| 16:41.11 | art3mis | sv key force your guild to send you rep turn ins ;P |
| 16:41.36 | art3mis | and everyone likes bot ;P |
| 16:41.41 | Lopeppeppy | Hmm? |
| 16:41.48 | art3mis | botanica |
| 16:41.55 | art3mis | the keys arent that difficult to do |
| 16:42.08 | art3mis | i hate rep grinds and ive got most cept the hellfire one |
| 16:42.18 | Lopeppeppy | Ah. Sadly, no one seems to trust a pally healer. I've been booted out of two groups in the last week, "Sorry, we found a better healer instead, good luck with your LFG." |
| 16:42.20 | art3mis | setthek halls is great for rep |
| 16:42.42 | MoonWolf | i trust pallies fine |
| 16:42.48 | zenzelezz | pally specced for healing? |
| 16:42.49 | MoonWolf | i prefer druids and priests for 5 mans though |
| 16:42.51 | art3mis | and stupid easy if you bring 1 pally, 1 tank(warr or druid), 2 mages and a lock or shadow priest |
| 16:42.58 | art3mis | i LOVE pally healers |
| 16:43.00 | Lopeppeppy | Some people do, and I'm a darned find Holydin. But some people do not, and there you go. |
| 16:43.13 | art3mis | they work so nicely with shadow priests |
| 16:43.23 | Lopeppeppy | Most are down with MoonWilf, hence I get few LFG bites. |
| 16:43.30 | MoonWolf | if i had to pick i'd not pick the pally , because of personal experiences |
| 16:43.39 | art3mis | i dps my ass off help ve heal he gets mana from the damage and my vt |
| 16:43.45 | MoonWolf | if there was not choice, or already had one, sure, not problem , come along. |
| 16:43.48 | Lopeppeppy | Sucks to be the good pally in a land full of weak imitations. |
| 16:44.13 | art3mis | i dislike like having priests for healing in 5mans |
| 16:44.29 | art3mis | i prefer having someone that can take a beating if need be on aggro |
| 16:44.57 | zenzelezz | as long as he has skills I prefer paladin healers in most cases |
| 16:45.01 | art3mis | yup |
| 16:45.05 | Lopeppeppy | And I can OT and heal at the same time, it's so very fun. |
| 16:45.19 | art3mis | plus the auras |
| 16:45.21 | art3mis | and blessings |
| 16:45.26 | art3mis | how can anyone NOT want those |
| 16:45.36 | Lopeppeppy | They prefer Fort and a priest. |
| 16:45.43 | art3mis | you play on a very retarded server ;P |
| 16:45.52 | art3mis | healdins destroy priests on single target healing |
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| 16:46.03 | art3mis | in raids sure priests out perform, but not in 5mans |
| 16:46.21 | art3mis | priewst gets aggro once and thats a run back ;P |
| 16:46.43 | art3mis | lope thats why i say shadowpriest+warr+paladin+2mages ;) |
| 16:46.43 | MoonWolf | ever heard of this skill callled fade ? |
| 16:46.44 | Lopeppeppy | I outperform priests in Karazhan and Gruul's. Not just once in a while, either. |
| 16:47.04 | art3mis | moon: it works sometimes a lot of the timeif you've pulled aggro it's on more than one mob ;P |
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| 16:47.21 | art3mis | and you instant are back on the aggro list when you try and heal thetank after/during the fade |
| 16:47.23 | TS|Skrom | And if the tank sucks (like most pugs do) he has minimal threat |
| 16:47.26 | TS|Skrom | on the extras |
| 16:47.36 | Lopeppeppy | Cat tank on multiples. *unfond memories of that one* |
| 16:47.44 | MoonWolf | cat trank |
| 16:47.45 | TS|Skrom | Heal - Fade is sometimes still > then the tanks minimal threat |
| 16:47.46 | MoonWolf | thats a bad idea |
| 16:47.56 | art3mis | fade is alright but its mostly useless if the group is ..meh.. |
| 16:48.13 | art3mis | thats why paladins are better |
| 16:48.26 | TS|Skrom | Well that's subjective |
| 16:48.32 | art3mis | if something runs at them they can stand there and take the beating til the tanks done |
| 16:48.39 | TS|Skrom | I mean a bad tank will still cause the pally to get aggro but at least he can take a few hits |
| 16:48.42 | Lopeppeppy | I can't count the times I've taunted off the mage, and held the mob until the first critter is dead and the tank can pick it up. |
| 16:48.43 | art3mis | yeah |
| 16:48.58 | MoonWolf | well, that was an idiot mage |
| 16:49.07 | TS|Skrom | yep |
| 16:49.11 | art3mis | or a really bad one ;P |
| 16:49.20 | TS|Skrom | Shouldn't have been attacking that mob |
| 16:49.29 | Lopeppeppy | This is true. |
| 16:49.33 | MoonWolf | well, maybe with something low damage to start with |
| 16:49.37 | art3mis | lope: you need to server transfer ;P |
| 16:49.38 | MoonWolf | not with fulout nuking anyway |
| 16:49.39 | Lopeppeppy | Or the tank should hold more than one mob, who can tell? |
| 16:49.45 | art3mis | to a place without retards ;P |
| 16:49.47 | Lopeppeppy | art3mis, I've considered it strongly. |
| 16:50.02 | art3mis | or rather a low percentage of retards since it IS WoW afterall |
| 16:50.10 | Lopeppeppy | But retards live everywhere, sadly, it's not an exclusive thing to AD. |
| 16:50.18 | MoonWolf | or wow for that matter |
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| 16:50.32 | Lopeppeppy | Truly spoken. |
| 16:51.07 | MoonWolf | so far i have encountered idiots in : FFXI, eve, LOTRO, City of X, dungeon runners (above wow levels even, free mmo == bad) |
| 16:51.27 | Valaron|Work | Guild Wars? |
| 16:51.36 | MoonWolf | ah yes |
| 16:51.38 | MoonWolf | there too |
| 16:51.47 | MoonWolf | but mostly naked female's |
| 16:51.49 | art3mis | dungeon runners any good? |
| 16:51.51 | Valaron|Work | I enjoyed that game... too bad no one I knew played it. |
| 16:51.54 | MoonWolf | art3mis, no. |
| 16:52.06 | MoonWolf | its so horribly inbalanced its not fun |
| 16:52.07 | art3mis | i dislike guildwars |
| 16:52.14 | art3mis | for only one reason |
| 16:52.18 | art3mis | you cant jump |
| 16:52.31 | MoonWolf | only for that ? |
| 16:52.34 | art3mis | yup |
| 16:52.42 | TS|Skrom | Agreed! |
| 16:52.46 | art3mis | i like most of the other stuff about it |
| 16:53.02 | art3mis | combat is decent enough, i like you can borrow npcs soyou dont need to group to accomplish things |
| 16:53.04 | TS|Skrom | oh man that's so annoying. Want to get down this frustratingly large hill? too bad you have to walk all the way down! |
| 16:53.09 | Valaron|Work | Guild Wars is pretty linear, though. |
| 16:53.12 | zenzelezz | I still don't know why people say they "could care less" when they try to say "I don't give a damn" |
| 16:53.21 | MoonWolf | i can go entire sessions in wow without jumping once |
| 16:53.22 | zenzelezz | you have to care to be able to care less |
| 16:53.23 | TS|Skrom | It' not just that you can't jump, there's no 3d movement at all. You cannot take a shortcut off even the smallest inclines |
| 16:53.26 | art3mis | jump the jumping is annoying |
| 16:53.29 | MoonWolf | i mean, its nice, but not needed at all. |
| 16:53.46 | art3mis | run up a little hill and around a corner, can i jump for the 7 feet it is to shorten my trip? noooOOOOoooo |
| 16:54.12 | TS|Skrom | Nope! actually I'd be fine with no jumping, it's the no falling that I hate |
| 16:54.19 | art3mis | heh |
| 16:54.28 | TS|Skrom | but you can't really have one without the other since you'd end up getting stuck in places I'm sure |
| 16:54.30 | art3mis | for free i like martial heros |
| 16:54.45 | art3mis | its mostly fun |
| 16:54.46 | Valaron|Work | I've gotten stuck in GW before. |
| 16:55.27 | Valaron|Work | afk |
| 16:55.34 | MoonWolf | priston tales |
| 16:55.36 | zenzelezz | I liked how your skills affected your jump height in Anarchy Online... you could seek refuge in places lowbies couldn't reach |
| 16:55.37 | MoonWolf | first mmo i played |
| 16:55.43 | TS|Skrom | I didn't play it long enough to get stuck |
| 16:55.54 | TS|Skrom | (GW that is) |
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| 16:58.49 | Lopeppeppy | In case anyone is interested in a vague job offer that likely involves a lot of headache for a complete waste of time... http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=711999273&sid=1 |
| 17:00.01 | TS|Skrom | Lopeppeppy "herd" mentality XD |
| 17:00.10 | Lopeppeppy | Mooooo, baby. |
| 17:00.57 | Elkano | oh yeah... the armory... I had a lot of fun writing tooltip popups for our forums using the armory... |
| 17:01.30 | End | extracting data from the armory is not that bad if you are willing to deal with xml (and you tell the armory you are something like firefox) |
| 17:02.11 | Lopeppeppy | I just find it amusing to see "help wanted" ads on the forums, when you know it's not like they guy is paying for his project. And to ask for a resume... just funny. |
| 17:07.25 | cog|work | Lopeppeppy: I'm hoping for this one, myself: http://blizzard.com/jobopp/software-engineer-user-interface.shtml |
| 17:08.21 | Lopeppeppy | Oooh, Cogwheel! That looks pretty! |
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| 17:17.13 | Punkie` | cog|work: Did you apply? |
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| 17:39.31 | TS|Skrom | well I'd better pretend to work for the rest of the day |
| 17:39.45 | Lopeppeppy | Awwww. |
| 17:39.49 | TS|Skrom | boss caught me readin' the forums, fortuneately it was around lunch time so I can play that card :D |
| 17:39.54 | Lopeppeppy | Ooops. |
| 17:41.29 | cog|work | heh... most of my coworkers don't recognize the forums for what they are... |
| 17:41.35 | cog|work | ('cept my wife :P ) |
| 17:41.55 | Lopeppeppy | My work doesn't care if I surf while pages load, considering how slow our bloody server can be. |
| 17:42.04 | cog|work | that too :( |
| 17:42.52 | TS|Skrom | I doubt I'd be concercned but I know that she knows I have two laptops sitting behind me that need to be processed |
| 17:43.37 | zenzelezz | just tell her you were browsing the tech support forum for help |
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| 17:49.22 | Lopeppeppy | Hey! That's mean! |
| 17:50.47 | cog|work | heh... we just went there yesterday :P |
| 17:50.54 | cog|work | http://www.originalpancakehouse.com/ |
| 17:51.42 | Lopeppeppy | Chok.... lit.... |
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| 17:56.33 | ckknight | the original pancake house makes great omelets |
| 17:57.10 | Lopeppeppy | .... omelet.... |
| 17:57.17 | Lopeppeppy | I just like when someone else cooks me breakfast. |
| 17:57.52 | cog|work | i had one of their omelettes when we went to disneyland last year |
| 17:58.19 | cog|work | my wife and I went there every morning this trip :) |
| 18:00.53 | Lopeppeppy | There is very little that's better than someone else making me breakfast, unless it's someone else doing my laundry. |
| 18:01.03 | cog|work | both imo |
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| 18:03.23 | Lopeppeppy | I'm doing laundry today, I hates it my precious. |
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| 18:05.13 | Valaron|Work | Hmmm |
| 18:05.26 | Lopeppeppy | Hmmmm. |
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| 18:14.38 | Lopeppeppy | Here's something to gather opinions on... Maiden of Virtue in Karazhan, with her AoE silence effect... can she be effectively paladin tanked, or not? |
| 18:15.27 | zenzelezz | afraid I have no idea how paladin tanking works... does silence mess with your tanking spells? |
| 18:16.07 | Lopeppeppy | If you're silenced, you can't cast, nu? |
| 18:16.25 | zenzelezz | I'm a warrior, I have like four abilities that are affected by silence |
| 18:16.34 | Lopeppeppy | And since pally threat comes from holy spell damage... this is a problem with her. |
| 18:16.57 | zenzelezz | see, why didn't you just say that right away? :-o |
| 18:17.34 | Lopeppeppy | I'm hoping someone has better info than I do, that maybe her "silence" doesn't work that way. I was told for the longest time that Aran silences as well... but he doesn't. He has an interrupt field, but instant casts get off just fine. |
| 18:17.55 | Lopeppeppy | And it's not like my raid group is gonna let me stand up there and take measurements instead of heal.... |
| 18:18.16 | Kaso | madien's silence should allow paladins to work alright, as its only 1/2 sec every 1 sec |
| 18:18.23 | Kaso | so you can still get instants off |
| 18:18.27 | Kaso | which is like all paladins pells |
| 18:18.43 | Lopeppeppy | Just requires some serious split second timing. *ponders* |
| 18:19.18 | zenzelezz | I can't remember ever seeing a "Can't do that while silenced" while shouting at her, so I'm guessing instants work just fine, yes |
| 18:19.32 | zenzelezz | or I could just be very lucky on timing, but the first sounds more likely |
| 18:19.48 | Lopeppeppy | Good to know and carry back. My druid tank was remembering the same thing, that it takes timing, but it's possible to get off instants. |
| 18:20.01 | Lopeppeppy | But the raid leaders don't take chances without info, soooooo..... |
| 18:22.00 | zenzelezz | I'm only speaking from my shoddy memory, but I don't seem to recall anyone in melee range ever complaining about the silence |
| 18:22.27 | Antiarc|Work | Generally though, casters don't hang out in melee range. |
| 18:22.41 | zenzelezz | never said they did |
| 18:22.58 | zenzelezz | but if the silence affected instants then the melee should have voiced some concerns |
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| 18:25.23 | Lopeppeppy | I know the druid tank told me he had to time some of his abilities to get around the silences... same thing any tank/melee would have to do, so there's no reason why pallies can't tank her if they dance around silence just like the other classes do. |
| 18:27.52 | End | well, taunts and shouts are affected by silence |
| 18:28.20 | End | is this aran you are talking about? |
| 18:28.31 | End | oh |
| 18:28.32 | End | maiden |
| 18:28.34 | Lopeppeppy | Yup, so our warriors/druids are already dancing around the silence, there's no reason a paladin can't dance too. Nom Maiden. |
| 18:28.58 | Lopeppeppy | Ahem. No, Maiden. Aran interrupts long casts, but instants get off just fine, so he's not an issue. |
| 18:29.39 | End | see, a druid and warrior would be affected very little |
| 18:30.09 | Thunder_Child | by the first silence any tank should have enough aggro to hold on |
| 18:30.23 | End | I doubt she is tauntable anyways |
| 18:30.31 | Lopeppeppy | Yup. I'm just makin' a case for my pally tank to get his shot at her. |
| 18:30.37 | Thunder_Child | i was refering to someone doing more aggro |
| 18:30.51 | Thunder_Child | the only issue should be if the healers didnt top off the MT first |
| 18:31.05 | End | that leaves shouts, and I suppose your druid friend would be renewing his demo roar pretty decently before the duration ends |
| 18:31.16 | Thunder_Child | our guild MT is a pally and we can do kara in one night...madien isnt an isue for him |
| 18:31.20 | zenzelezz | Lopeppeppy: I tank Maiden as a warrior every week, and I have never noticed a thing about timing, I just punch my buttons as usual |
| 18:31.54 | Lopeppeppy | I didn't think it would be a problem, Thunder_Child, but we don't second guess raid leaders in raid -- so now I get to collect evidence to tell them they were wrong. :) |
| 18:32.42 | Thunder_Child | heh, our guild does second guess raid leaders in a raid |
| 18:32.54 | Thunder_Child | well raid leader* |
| 18:32.54 | End | I'm more curious what a prot paladin would do on aran. our warriors switch into dps gear and pummel as needed |
| 18:33.05 | zenzelezz | we second-guess ours all the time, we just don't voice it |
| 18:33.09 | Thunder_Child | out tank heals |
| 18:33.12 | Thunder_Child | our* |
| 18:33.19 | End | ah, ok, that makes sense |
| 18:33.22 | zenzelezz | /4 did anyone catch what he just said? |
| 18:33.22 | Thunder_Child | he has much of the healing plate from kara |
| 18:33.27 | Lopeppeppy | We'll be missing the pummel, End, but we have mages and rogues for interrupts. |
| 18:33.33 | End | yeah, I know |
| 18:33.35 | zenzelezz | [4. warriorchannel] [tank]: nah... just do <...> |
| 18:33.53 | Thunder_Child | lol zenzelezz |
| 18:33.56 | Lopeppeppy | Yeah... we're a bit like that, zenzelezz, but as an officer I try not to practice sedition in the ranks. |
| 18:34.05 | End | hehe |
| 18:35.18 | Lopeppeppy | I just go out the next day and prove, at length, just how wrong the decision was. |
| 18:36.03 | zenzelezz | I have a too poor temper for that... if people keep questioning something I *know* works for me then I tell them they're free to do it themselves if they know so much better x.x |
| 18:36.21 | Thunder_Child | i do that to, but not out of anger |
| 18:36.24 | zenzelezz | but I try not to speak in definite about other classes, since I'm a nub there |
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| 18:36.37 | Thunder_Child | cant hurt to learn something |
| 18:36.53 | Lopeppeppy | I'm not the raid leader, so I don't get to make directional choices. If I can't convince them in 30 seconds, we don't do it until I can convince them on the forums. |
| 18:37.17 | zenzelezz | well, I'm not the leader either, but you get a sort of second-in-command rank as the MT |
| 18:38.02 | zenzelezz | for the most part, thankfully, I just shut up and go with the raid, saves me a lot of anger and trouble |
| 18:39.09 | Lopeppeppy | Surely does. |
| 18:39.15 | Kaso | Anyone who was at the Items/Profession panel ? |
| 18:39.32 | Thunder_Child | i was |
| 18:39.50 | Thunder_Child | but it has been more than 10 min so i dont know if i can remeber anything |
| 18:39.57 | Thunder_Child | remember* |
| 18:40.03 | Kaso | The wowradio video cuts out before he anwsers the Enchanting wands question do you remeber anything maybe maybe ? |
| 18:40.38 | Thunder_Child | that was part of the Q&A? |
| 18:41.04 | Kaso | yah |
| 18:41.14 | cog|work | My wife couldn't stand the Q/A sessions so we left :P |
| 18:41.27 | Thunder_Child | heh, you missed out on some good questions |
| 18:42.02 | Thunder_Child | Kaso, i think he said they were thinking about it, but couldnt promise anything |
| 18:42.23 | Kaso | Thanks |
| 18:42.43 | Kaso | I wish it was more definite, its a shame there isnt more wands in the game :< |
| 18:46.13 | Thunder_Child | there doesnt seem to be a lack of them now |
| 18:46.21 | Kaydeethree | meh, more wands would be good |
| 18:47.01 | Kaydeethree | eesh... nearly filled up my camera's 2GB SD card at blizzcon |
| 18:47.05 | Thunder_Child | why?, what are you missing out on now |
| 18:47.26 | Thunder_Child | heh, i halfway filled up my 8gb card |
| 18:47.27 | Kaydeethree | dunno, just having more options is always a good thing |
| 18:47.35 | Thunder_Child | but i was taking them in RAW |
| 18:47.42 | Kaydeethree | should've brought more cards, but the battery died on me at the concert |
| 18:48.07 | Kaydeethree | got roughly halfway through the vgl songs before it gave out on me |
| 18:48.10 | Thunder_Child | i wish we knew most people were staying for the concert |
| 18:48.28 | Thunder_Child | i would have liked to finish it |
| 18:48.29 | Kaydeethree | we were all expecting it to end earlier than it did |
| 18:49.32 | Thunder_Child | thats true, i guess it depends on what people thought was more important |
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| 19:30.22 | cog|work | |Jelly| too |
| 19:30.33 | Lopeppeppy | Yay, |Jelly|!!! |
| 19:30.44 | |Jelly| | Yay! Me! |
| 19:30.49 | |Jelly| | And Peppy! <333 |
| 19:30.54 | |Jelly| | And COG! |
| 19:30.56 | Thunder_Child | ~whalestab |Jelly| |
| 19:30.56 | purl | ACTION stabs |Jelly| with a rather narrow and pointy whale named Montgomery |
| 19:31.05 | |Jelly| | You win, TC. |
| 19:31.08 | cog|work | wai r j00 bold? |
| 19:31.09 | |Jelly| | I r ded! |
| 19:31.20 | Thunder_Child | i always win |
| 19:31.23 | |Jelly| | Cause Trillian is like...ZOMG everything needs to be bold! |
| 19:31.38 | |Jelly| | Gimme a sec. |
| 19:31.54 | |Jelly| | Fixt? |
| 19:31.59 | Thunder_Child | thats why i like mirc, it strips everything out inc |
| 19:32.23 | Lopeppeppy | Fixt. |
| 19:32.42 | |Jelly| | So. How has everyone been in my absence? |
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| 19:33.09 | cog|work | absent :P |
| 19:33.15 | Thunder_Child | yea |
| 19:33.41 | |Jelly| | Yeah. Nerds going to Nerd-Con 07. |
| 19:33.41 | Thunder_Child | blizzcon > |Jelly|'s absence.......but only by a little :) |
| 19:33.43 | |Jelly| | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:34.15 | Lopeppeppy | I was lonelysome. I ated all the cookies by myself. |
| 19:34.23 | |Jelly| | nooooooo |
| 19:34.26 | Saint-N | all urv tham? |
| 19:34.40 | cog|work | u r phat now kthx |
| 19:34.51 | Saint-N | fat == bigger boobies |
| 19:34.59 | |Jelly| | Is not! She's a gnome, not a dorf! |
| 19:35.03 | Saint-N | yay bigger boobies \o/ |
| 19:35.47 | Lopeppeppy | My boobies are just what they are, k thx for the interest though. *laugh* |
| 19:36.25 | |Jelly| | I lol'd irl. Thanks. |
| 19:36.25 | stavmar | is anyone here using recipie book? |
| 19:36.31 | Saint-N | arethey bigger or smaller than cog's boobs? |
| 19:36.42 | Saint-N | ;) |
| 19:37.06 | krka | fat == bigger belly for me :/ |
| 19:37.21 | Saint-N | any bigger and you should be giving birth soon ;) |
| 19:37.28 | krka | that would rock |
| 19:37.42 | Saint-N | eat lots and give birth to poo-babies! |
| 19:37.50 | Saint-N | most of them are still born though |
| 19:38.20 | Saint-N | wise choice |
| 19:38.26 | Saint-N | maybe you ARE a girl |
| 19:38.33 | |Jelly| | It's ok Peppy, I'll comfort you and give you cookies and milk! |
| 19:38.43 | |Jelly| | Girls don't play WoW. |
| 19:38.49 | cog|work | liez |
| 19:38.55 | |Jelly| | Furthermore, there are no girls on the interwebs. |
| 19:38.58 | Lopeppeppy | Nope, girls go barefoots in the kitchen and eat cookies. |
| 19:39.09 | Saint-N | |Jelly|: thats only because they get clogged in the tubes |
| 19:39.46 | |Jelly| | lol |
| 19:40.22 | Saint-N | peppy has one of those stoves with the foot soaking basin in it ;) |
| 19:40.49 | Lopeppeppy | Cook in style, my friend. |
| 19:40.51 | |Jelly| | They make the best cookies. |
| 19:41.00 | Lopeppeppy | Anyhoot, off for errands and dinner before raiding. Ta! |
| 19:41.06 | |Jelly| | Bye! |
| 19:41.15 | Saint-N | ttfn |
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| 19:41.34 | |Jelly| | That's right. Hugged me. Snubbed the rest of you. Owned. |
| 19:43.03 | End | uh oh, my eyes haven't stopped rolling! |
| 19:43.06 | |Jelly| | Don't be jealous. |
| 19:43.20 | |Jelly| | omg! That's not good! |
| 19:43.25 | Saint-N | works for old TVs |
| 19:43.44 | |Jelly| | Does it work for heads with rolling eyes? Cause...wow. |
| 19:43.52 | Saint-N | appearantly so |
| 19:43.58 | Saint-N | spooky |
| 19:44.08 | |Jelly| | I agree. |
| 19:44.14 | End | at least my eyes weren't showing snow |
| 19:44.27 | Saint-N | that would be cool though |
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| 19:44.50 | |Jelly| | That would be kind of creepy...as if hitting someone's head causes their eyes to stop rolling isn't creepy already. |
| 19:45.06 | Saint-N | heh |
| 19:45.15 | Saint-N | it would only be super creepy if you heard the static hiss |
| 19:45.23 | Saint-N | or saw cartoons or something |
| 19:45.30 | |Jelly| | So I *ahem* attained The Hills Have Eyes 2 this weekend. I think it's almost tied with the worst "horror flick" evAr. |
| 19:45.56 | Saint-N | lies |
| 19:46.00 | Saint-N | there are much worse |
| 19:46.09 | |Jelly| | You know, since I wasn't at Nerd-Con 07. *sneers at Cog* |
| 19:46.12 | Saint-N | hostel for instance |
| 19:46.25 | |Jelly| | I did say tied... |
| 19:46.32 | Saint-N | heh true |
| 19:46.39 | Saint-N | speaking of bad horror |
| 19:46.44 | Saint-N | get a movie called Black Sheep |
| 19:46.49 | Saint-N | best premise evar |
| 19:46.51 | |Jelly| | lol |
| 19:47.04 | Saint-N | its about carnivorous sheep in new zealand |
| 19:47.22 | Saint-N | its good for only 1 watch though |
| 19:47.29 | Saint-N | so rent download but dont buy ;P |
| 19:47.39 | |Jelly| | I don't buy. |
| 19:47.43 | Saint-N | im telling |
| 19:47.55 | Saint-N | mvs release of the simpsons is good btw |
| 19:48.10 | Saint-N | in case you wish to "obtain" it |
| 19:49.09 | |Jelly| | I didn't like the Simpsons. |
| 19:49.12 | |Jelly| | To be honest. |
| 19:50.25 | krka | only good thing was the futurama style 3d |
| 19:50.39 | |Jelly| | I actually hated that probably the most. |
| 19:50.52 | krka | really? do you hate it in futurama too, or just in simpsons? |
| 19:50.59 | |Jelly| | Just in the Simpsons. |
| 19:51.10 | |Jelly| | To me, it took away from it cause the Simpsons isn't like that. |
| 19:51.28 | krka | right |
| 19:51.40 | |Jelly| | If every episode for at least like a year or two were like that, I could understand but it's like a gimmick for the movie. |
| 19:51.53 | krka | personally i think that sort of animation looks really cool... both 2d and 3d at the same time, and brings more depth to it |
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| 19:52.59 | Wraanger | heyaz |
| 19:53.04 | cog|work | yo |
| 19:53.07 | |Jelly| | *shrug* It's only my opinion. Other than that, I liked it aside from how it almost seemed like they were trying to make it more vulgar (to a degree) cause they could. |
| 19:53.08 | |Jelly| | Hai. |
| 19:53.31 | cog|work | you mean like south park? :P |
| 19:53.36 | |Jelly| | Exactly. |
| 19:53.39 | |Jelly| | Hated that movie. |
| 19:53.44 | cog|work | pfft |
| 19:53.56 | |Jelly| | Granted, I'm not a huge fan of the show either but the movie just really made me want to cut little children. |
| 19:55.52 | krka | sp the movie rocked |
| 19:56.22 | Wraanger | question - how can range at which nameplates are shown be changed ? |
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| 19:57.28 | cog|work | don't think it can... |
| 19:57.43 | cog|work | besides, there's a limited number so if you have a bunch of units close to you it wouldn't have any effect |
| 19:58.38 | Kaso | It is indeed hardcoded at 20yrd |
| 19:58.56 | Wraanger | (( |
| 20:01.29 | zenzelezz | a limited number of nameplates? Must be pretty high limit then: http://home.samsen.com/zenzelezz/nameplates.jpg |
| 20:02.50 | Kaso | I must admit i never saw a limit on nameplates but i never looked for one either, they are dynamically created when needed however |
| 20:02.54 | Kaso | thats all i know |
| 20:03.27 | cog|work | oh... guess they changed it then |
| 20:03.41 | Kaso | I'd think perhaps there would be some cap |
| 20:04.03 | Kaso | otherwise you could imagen it creating so many frames that it slows the client down for the rest of the session |
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| 20:04.54 | Kaso | but perhaps its just "very high" |
| 20:05.42 | cog|work | once they're hidden, it shouldn't meaningfully affect framerate... |
| 20:06.24 | cog|work | memory usage, maybe... but we all know where that conversation leads :P |
| 20:06.35 | Kaso | true true |
| 20:06.55 | cog|work | wheeeee! |
| 20:08.53 | zenzelezz | true |
| 20:08.55 | zenzelezz | may not be that high either, just balanced from content |
| 20:09.09 | zenzelezz | that might explain why my X-Chat's latency bar was going nuts |
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| 21:05.26 | LemonFrosted | what are the limits of the Target of Target system? Is it possible to have a UI that would display a player's target if they are not your target? I.e. show each party member's target by their portrait? |
| 21:05.54 | zenzelezz | should be possible |
| 21:06.18 | zenzelezz | how much exactly you could do with that frame I'm not sure about |
| 21:06.30 | zenzelezz | ie. click it to target, etc, but merely showing it should be possible |
| 21:07.25 | LemonFrosted | Okay, good to know. |
| 21:08.02 | LemonFrosted | Normally I'm just the guy making things look pretty, but my programmer friend has vanished and I had this huge brainstorm for a UI |
| 21:08.18 | zenzelezz | :) |
| 21:08.38 | Thunder_Child | *sigh* i really need to learn how to take my time with pictures...some of these from blizzcon are just terrible |
| 21:09.08 | LemonFrosted | Convention halls are horrible for compact cameras. |
| 21:09.34 | Thunder_Child | i have a dslr |
| 21:09.41 | Thunder_Child | but need an upgraded lens |
| 21:09.58 | LemonFrosted | 50mm f/1.8! |
| 21:10.29 | zenzelezz | I have no idea what you just said |
| 21:10.57 | Thunder_Child | it's a lens type |
| 21:10.57 | LemonFrosted | though unless you're on a full frame chip that's going to be a bit too long. Sigma makes a 28mm f/1.8 but it's $$$ |
| 21:11.11 | Thunder_Child | the one i want is $500 |
| 21:12.07 | zenzelezz | I've started to occasionally talk to my pet in /say while farming, so people will stop calling me a bot |
| 21:13.36 | foxlit | I'd report you for being insane |
| 21:14.07 | zenzelezz | but that's a fact |
| 21:14.08 | foxlit | How trivial is it to add speaking to a pet to a bot, anyway? |
| 21:14.24 | zenzelezz | wouldn't know, but I imagine not hard |
| 21:14.38 | zenzelezz | I'm quite specific, though I doubt it would make a difference |
| 21:14.44 | zenzelezz | "Only five more motes now" |
| 21:14.52 | LemonFrosted | that's a little more creative than most botters are looking to get, though |
| 21:15.04 | ScytheBlade1 | The "/script UseSoulStone()" thread makes my head hurt :/ |
| 21:15.28 | cog|work | owie |
| 21:15.53 | LemonFrosted | I just read that. |
| 21:16.18 | Thunder_Child | LemonFrosted: http://www.usa.canon.com/consumer/controller?act=ModelInfoAct&fcategoryid=149&modelid=7337 iirc |
| 21:16.39 | ScytheBlade1 | The poster is... unique too. I had to laugh at his name. |
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| 21:28.04 | End | his..pet has a soulstone? |
| 21:28.18 | End | oh priest |
| 21:28.23 | End | lol, misread that at first |
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| 22:09.27 | Thunder_Child | ckknight ping |
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| 22:46.39 | buu | !ap 1500 |
| 22:46.39 | ThraeBot | buu: Arena points from a rating of 1500 is, 2v2: 263, 3v3: 300, 5v5: 376 |
| 22:46.45 | buu | Ahah, right channel |
| 22:46.48 | buu | !ap 1650 |
| 22:46.49 | ThraeBot | buu: Arena points from a rating of 1650 is, 2v2: 389, 3v3: 445, 5v5: 556 |
| 22:47.20 | buu | !ap 1750 |
| 22:47.21 | ThraeBot | buu: Arena points from a rating of 1750 is, 2v2: 484, 3v3: 553, 5v5: 691 |
| 22:50.00 | Shirik | I'm going to hurt buu in a second |
| 22:50.11 | |Jelly| | Cut his face. |
| 22:52.56 | buu | Hot |
| 23:03.33 | art3mis | myyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy |
| 23:03.41 | art3mis | bologna has a first name its OSCAR |
| 23:03.54 | art3mis | my bologna has a second name it's MAYER |
| 23:04.13 | art3mis | cuz oscar mayer has a way with b o l o g n a |
| 23:04.35 | cog|work | I've been to Bologna |
| 23:04.49 | cog|work | stopped there on the way to Switzerland |
| 23:05.00 | cog|work | mmmmm.... bologna & swiss |
| 23:05.07 | art3mis | heh |
| 23:05.18 | art3mis | thats the kind of sammich i could get into ;P |
| 23:05.22 | art3mis | wink wink nudge nudge |
| 23:08.25 | cog|work | Now i'm craving a big chunk of jarlsberg |
| 23:09.16 | cog|work | why the hell does office need to close firefox to repair itself? |
| 23:10.43 | sysrage | how do you demote yourself in guild? |
| 23:11.03 | cog|work | s/how do/can/ imo |
| 23:11.16 | sysrage | is it not possible? |
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| 23:12.13 | cog|work | I wouldn't think so... |
| 23:12.20 | art3mis | i think you can but only as long as the rank you're at allows you to demote "others" |
| 23:12.24 | art3mis | ivedone it |
| 23:12.29 | cog|work | that too |
| 23:12.33 | sysrage | i can demote people lower than me |
| 23:12.54 | art3mis | then technically you could go 1 rank lower |
| 23:13.02 | art3mis | at which point you couldnt demote and you'd stop |
| 23:14.22 | Cide | I can demote others but not myself |
| 23:14.26 | Cide | from the gui anyway |
| 23:15.12 | sysrage | bah. found /gdemote but it says my rank is too high |
| 23:15.22 | Shirik | I can't demote anyone at my rank so :( |
| 23:15.27 | Shirik | only people below me |
| 23:18.50 | cog|work | WTB http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,292271,00.html |
| 23:19.00 | Shirik | heh, my table serializer looks like an advertisement for SVN |
| 23:19.49 | Shirik | cog|work: wow. |
| 23:19.59 | Shirik | (Just seen the <title> so far but I'm intrigued) |
| 23:20.42 | Shirik | interestingly it appears to be related to what I've been working on (though we've been trying to prevent weaponry ... and only a class 2 laser not five bajillion like I'm sure that is) |
| 23:21.30 | Shirik | it is |
| 23:21.38 | Shirik | interesting |
| 23:21.48 | Shirik | (LEDs are technically lasers according to IEC60825) |
| 23:22.44 | Shirik | I fear that it may be hazardous to health though |
| 23:23.39 | |Jelly| | "barf-beamers" <-- I lol'd |
| 23:23.45 | cog|work | well, i think staying here any longer will be hazardous to mine... time for home |
| 23:25.52 | Shirik | I dunno, it concerns me |
| 23:26.36 | Kaydeethree | 700+KB/s down |
| 23:26.44 | Kaydeethree | what the hell... |
| 23:27.00 | Shirik | no complaints! |
| 23:27.24 | Kaydeethree | oh no. just wondering where the hell my isp gets its uplink from and why we're on fiber |
| 23:29.09 | Kaydeethree | s/isp/apartment complex/ |
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| 23:36.35 | dnmcgoy | I'm having some trouble with a custom image loading (its a tga). Anyone have much experience with them? |
| 23:36.56 | Shirik | what's wrong? |
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| 23:37.04 | Shirik | does it come up all in green? |
| 23:37.43 | dnmcgoy | its showing a green square where the icon should be.. here's the weird part though: if I edit a custom image in another project |
| 23:37.52 | Shirik | yup |
| 23:37.53 | dnmcgoy | and use that directory, it shows |
| 23:37.55 | Shirik | stop there |
| 23:38.02 | Shirik | you saved it wrong |
| 23:38.28 | Shirik | I forget what causes that... but WoW is extremely picky over what pixelformat is used |
| 23:38.34 | dnmcgoy | I've been trying to search wowwiki for a listing of what the file formats are |
| 23:38.36 | Shirik | do you have an alpha channel? |
| 23:38.39 | dnmcgoy | yes |
| 23:38.44 | Shirik | and 32 bit |
| 23:39.05 | dnmcgoy | double checking that one |
| 23:40.08 | dnmcgoy | hmm.. in gimp.. visual depth == 24 |
| 23:40.24 | dnmcgoy | I'm thinking that may be it.. now trying to figure out how to make it 32 |
| 23:40.24 | Shirik | sec, let me double check what I'm telling you |
| 23:40.35 | Shirik | well, 24 might be 32 |
| 23:40.49 | Shirik | 8x4 = 32 |
| 23:40.51 | dnmcgoy | 24 is the usual 16.9 million |
| 23:40.55 | Shirik | 8x3 (RGB) = 24 |
| 23:41.21 | dnmcgoy | yeah, 2^24 gets you the colors.. then usually another 8 for the alpha channel |
| 23:41.25 | Shirik | the dimensions of the image are a power of 2? |
| 23:41.57 | dnmcgoy | no no.. 8 bits for red, 8 bits for blue, 8 bits for green == 16.9 million different colors == 2^24 |
| 23:42.22 | dnmcgoy | err 16.7 |
| 23:42.34 | Shirik | no |
| 23:42.34 | Shirik | I mean what I said |
| 23:42.45 | dnmcgoy | ohhh |
| 23:42.46 | Rallion | color depth is fun for everyone! |
| 23:42.48 | Shirik | are the dimensions a power of 2? |
| 23:42.55 | dnmcgoy | no, 90x90 |
| 23:42.59 | Kaydeethree | bingo |
| 23:43.12 | dnmcgoy | ah, it has to be a power of 2 eh? |
| 23:43.12 | Kaydeethree | 64x64 or 128x128, have fun |
| 23:43.13 | Shirik | it must be |
| 23:43.18 | Shirik | that's your problem |
| 23:43.30 | dnmcgoy | cool, appreciate it.. where are you finding this info? |
| 23:43.49 | Shirik | I tend to take a hammer to my head and eventually it comes out |
| 23:44.01 | Kaydeethree | it was on the old forums if I remember correctly, but it was beaten in to me as well |
| 23:44.45 | dnmcgoy | ahh.. I feel somewhat bad asking semi-trivial questions.. but I really am not finding it quickly via google or wowwiki |
| 23:44.46 | Rallion | I remember getting discord art set up back in the day, and looking at a page with all that, with parts in all caps, like "MAKE ABSOLUTELY sure that BOTH the image's HEIGHT AND WIDTH..." and it was very intimidating/ |
| 23:45.10 | Shirik | it's not a trivial question :P |
| 23:45.16 | Shirik | Just trivial for people whom have seen the problem before :) |
| 23:45.24 | Shirik | which is how almost anything is |
| 23:45.35 | Shirik | WoW is extremely particular in its graphics |
| 23:45.39 | dnmcgoy | dang it.. I did make one of the images I tried 64x64 |
| 23:45.42 | dnmcgoy | still no soup |
| 23:46.00 | Shirik | still fully green? |
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| 23:46.09 | dnmcgoy | (because I took an old image from another addon and modified it) |
| 23:46.10 | dnmcgoy | yes |
| 23:46.11 | dnmcgoy | :( |
| 23:46.24 | dnmcgoy | here's another weird clue |
| 23:46.48 | dnmcgoy | I'm able to modify an image in another addon.. and it works.. if I keep it in the same directory |
| 23:47.01 | dnmcgoy | if I move it to my addon's directory.. it doesn't |
| 23:47.24 | dnmcgoy | I've double checked the path about 10 times |
| 23:47.33 | Shirik | uh, did you remember to update the code to reference the new location? |
| 23:47.41 | dnmcgoy | yup |
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| 23:48.29 | dnmcgoy | <NormalTexture file="Interface\Addons\Trinity\Images\TrinityBindOffButton.tga"/> |
| 23:48.30 | dnmcgoy | works |
| 23:48.40 | dnmcgoy | <NormalTexture file="Interface\Addons\HelloWorld\Images\TrinityBindOffButton.tga"/> |
| 23:48.48 | dnmcgoy | does not.. same image.. just moved |
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| 23:49.02 | dnmcgoy | even keep the name the same |
| 23:49.06 | Shirik | I think you have something wierd going on |
| 23:49.06 | Shirik | can you show me the code? |
| 23:49.18 | dnmcgoy | sure.. let me pastey it |
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| 23:49.59 | Shirik | It definitely has to be 32bpp, and I'm assuming that's ARGB |
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| 23:51.09 | dnmcgoy | http://wowi.pastey.net/71886 |
| 23:53.59 | Shirik | laggehhh |
| 23:54.15 | dnmcgoy | it needs to be refactored |
| 23:55.13 | Cide | that could be reduced into about 30 lines of lua code :/ |
| 23:55.19 | dnmcgoy | true |
| 23:55.37 | dnmcgoy | I'm just playing around right nwo |
| 23:55.47 | dnmcgoy | refactoring comes once I have something working |
| 23:55.54 | Cide | xml is so wordy |
| 23:56.48 | Shirik | Cide: really? |
| 23:56.48 | Shirik | I only see ... |
| 23:56.48 | Shirik | 2 lines |
| 23:57.09 | Cide | I see 130 or so |
| 23:57.18 | Cide | 143 |
| 23:57.29 | Shirik | pastey isn't working for me :( |
| 23:57.34 | dnmcgoy | :( |
| 23:57.35 | Shirik | all other sites work :/ |
| 23:57.47 | Shirik | yeah, now I'm timing out |
| 23:57.53 | Shirik | ah, there it is! |
| 23:58.02 | Shirik | wow. |
| 23:58.13 | Shirik | yeah this is why I hate xml :P |
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| 23:58.52 | dnmcgoy | :( I agree.. its bad code.. its not finished product.. just trying to get the basic pieces and parts together |
| 23:59.05 | Shirik | dnmcgoy: <NormalTexture file="Interface\Addons\Trinity\Images\TrinityBindOffButton.tga"/> ? |
| 23:59.46 | dnmcgoy | s/Addon\Trinity/Addons\HelloWorld/ |
| 23:59.57 | dnmcgoy | and you get the change that breaks it |
