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| 00:11.20 | Woll | Is there any way to avoid Minimap button bag overflowing, or do I have to figure out how to hide several buttons? |
| 00:14.07 | Lunessa | What do you mean, "overflowing"? |
| 00:17.32 | Woll | Sorry |
| 00:17.44 | Woll | It pops up with an error saying it overflowed. |
| 00:17.52 | Woll | I'm assuming it is because there a too many buttons. |
| 00:18.10 | Woll | I just setup a new compilation and it worked fine after setting up my layout. |
| 00:18.23 | Woll | Adding atlas, sw stats, natur, etc I think caused it |
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| 00:20.22 | Shirik | 202:192:17 » Nickname 2'Shirik2' is already in use |
| 00:20.30 | Shirik | 202:192:40 » 12[notice from NickServ12]: [Shirik] is not currently online |
| 00:20.32 | Shirik | ... |
| 00:20.58 | pastamancer | clearly you're not currently online |
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| 00:22.11 | Lunessa | So clearly I cannot choose the glass in front of me. |
| 00:24.20 | [dRaCo] | ? |
| 00:25.28 | Lunessa | Princess Bride reference, inspired by "<pastamancer>clearly you're not currently online" |
| 00:25.36 | Woll | Monkeyquest > Uberquest? |
| 00:26.24 | Lunessa | Woll - asking a room full of programmers which of the available addons are good or not is like asking NASA to do your 3rd grade science project. |
| 00:26.55 | Woll | Hmmm |
| 00:27.00 | Woll | I like opinions. =] |
| 00:27.09 | Woll | I'm a perfectionist. |
| 00:27.23 | Lunessa | Which is why every addon site has a section on every download page for comments. |
| 00:27.41 | Lunessa | well, except for wowace, which uses it's forums for that. |
| 00:28.07 | Woll | Yeah, and I read there too. A lot of times it is people complaining about their specific problems though. |
| 00:28.24 | Shirik | Lunessa: But if I know that I am online, then learly I cannot choose the glass in front of you! |
| 00:28.34 | Woll | I have used uberquest in the past, and thought it was okay but not amazing. |
| 00:28.41 | Lunessa | Shirik: Your intellect is dizzying! |
| 00:28.52 | Shirik | Inconceivable! |
| 00:28.52 | Woll | I have noticed a lot of people using monkeyquest recently, so I thought I would see if anyone here had some comments on it. |
| 00:28.55 | JoshBorke | woll: try them both and use whichever you like |
| 00:29.00 | Lunessa | Woll - opinions are subjective. What I like you may hate. |
| 00:29.03 | Woll | sir, yes, sir |
| 00:29.21 | Lunessa | Actually, opinions are like assholes. Everyone has one, and they all stink. |
| 00:29.31 | JoshBorke | my opinions smell like roses |
| 00:29.33 | Woll | I thought that was excuses >< |
| 00:29.42 | Woll | Some opinions can be good! |
| 00:29.47 | Woll | Excuses all stink though. |
| 00:29.51 | Lunessa | JoshBorke: That's fertilizer, not roses. |
| 00:30.06 | Woll | or mulch |
| 00:31.59 | Woll | Lunessa - what is your favorite color? |
| 00:32.28 | Lunessa | You must answer me, these questions three, ere the other side you see! |
| 00:33.37 | Woll | Um, yes. |
| 00:34.16 | Lunessa | Monty Python and the Holy Grail reference. |
| 00:34.21 | Shirik | Blue |
| 00:34.22 | Shirik | no wait |
| 00:34.43 | Lunessa | My favorite color changes from day to day and how much caffeine I've had. |
| 00:34.54 | Woll | I like your style. |
| 00:36.10 | Lunessa | - http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=711964687&sid=1 - :facepalm: |
| 00:36.57 | Woll | lol |
| 00:37.18 | [dRaCo] | tell him to glue the missing 200 pixel to his screen |
| 00:38.17 | JoshBorke | fixed |
| 00:38.35 | [dRaCo] | very easy, measure your screen, calcalute how long 200 px would be, cut a piece of black paper (screens are black when turned off, you know?) to have that size, glue, done. |
| 00:39.11 | Lunessa | Indeedy! BRILLIANT! |
| 00:39.49 | [dRaCo] | wish I could post that :/ |
| 00:42.02 | JoshBorke | there we go |
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| 01:03.08 | Wobwork | =\ |
| 01:03.19 | Wobwork | I'll have to end up installing XP again, won't I? |
| 01:04.09 | JoshBorke | there's wobin! |
| 01:04.09 | Wobwork | damn you linux sound |
| 01:04.09 | Wobwork | JoshBorke: Where?! |
| 01:04.34 | JoshBorke | i must have been mistaken |
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| 01:09.52 | Wobwork | The ghost of shirik present, or future? |
| 01:10.50 | Shirik|Ghost3 | all of the above |
| 01:11.48 | Lunessa | Wow... Shirik is from the future! |
| 01:12.15 | Shirik | :) |
| 01:13.17 | Lunessa | Everybody knows hoverboards don't work on water. |
| 01:14.43 | Shirik | quick question |
| 01:14.47 | Shirik | ManaBarColor[4] = { r = 0.00, g = 1.00, b = 1.00, prefix = HAPPINESS_POINTS }; |
| 01:14.50 | Shirik | what is happiness points? |
| 01:14.59 | Wobwork | pet |
| 01:15.04 | Shirik | yeah but |
| 01:15.09 | Shirik | mana bar color? |
| 01:15.15 | Wobwork | yeah, well |
| 01:15.19 | Wobwork | keep your casters happy |
| 01:15.23 | Wobwork | or they'll abandon you |
| 01:15.44 | Shirik | I just mean there's no bar for happiness :/ |
| 01:15.46 | Wobwork | The pet happiness colour is usually used to indicate happiness on the energy bar I guess? |
| 01:15.47 | Lunessa | Does [4] refer to the element that is the smiley face? |
| 01:16.02 | Shirik | focus fills the energy bar |
| 01:16.08 | Shirik | no, because |
| 01:16.10 | Wobwork | but colour |
| 01:16.13 | Shirik | 3,2,1 those all indicate rage |
| 01:16.14 | Shirik | energy, etc. |
| 01:16.24 | Wobwork | colour is usually static for mana |
| 01:16.26 | Shirik | So this is how you find out the appropriate color to display, afaict |
| 01:16.27 | Wobwork | /rage/energy |
| 01:16.47 | Wobwork | but if you indicate happiness with colour, you can use the energy/rage/mana bar to do so |
| 01:16.47 | Shirik | Yeah, but this allows you to determine which to use, based on who it is |
| 01:17.01 | Shirik | I'm confused now >< |
| 01:17.14 | Wobwork | I have no idea where that snippet is from =) |
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| 01:59.10 | Nom- | hmmm |
| 01:59.27 | Nom- | What time does Blizzcon start ? |
| 02:01.14 | Cide | Shirik: it's deprecated |
| 02:01.31 | Cide | at one point there was (or it was intended to be, anyway) a happiness bar |
| 02:01.44 | Cide | happiness has a value (and a max value) |
| 02:01.46 | Shirik | Cide: ManaBarColor or happiness bar? |
| 02:01.47 | Shirik | ah |
| 02:01.49 | Cide | as you can see when you feed them |
| 02:02.18 | Cide | "Foo gets X points of happiness." |
| 02:02.35 | Cide | but they made it more user friendly by just changing it to an icon with a smiley |
| 02:03.39 | Shirik | I would have liked a bar tbh :/ |
| 02:04.09 | Shirik | I have a question though |
| 02:04.17 | Shirik | Conspiracy.Scheduler:Schedule() - I don't like that API name :( |
| 02:04.27 | KarlKFI | lol |
| 02:04.30 | Shirik | but I can't think of a better module name for Conspiracy.Scheduler, or a better functon name for Schedule |
| 02:04.52 | Shirik | I suck at naming stuff :( |
| 02:04.58 | Cide | .Conspire? |
| 02:05.05 | Shirik | lol |
| 02:05.38 | Shirik | as amusing as that would be, I might not keep the name conspiracy down the road so I think it makes sense to be more direct with the name |
| 02:05.46 | Shirik | afk putting top on my car :P |
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| 02:07.56 | Shirik | and back |
| 02:08.29 | Kyahx | went to buy cake? |
| 02:09.25 | KarlKFI | i want cake |
| 02:09.42 | Shirik | Kyahx is evil |
| 02:11.55 | Kyahx | What about Conspiracy.Scheduler:Plan() :P |
| 02:12.32 | Kyahx | or Register, or Setup |
| 02:16.05 | Shirik | hm, I like register because it lets me design the API in a different way |
| 02:16.07 | Shirik | that works thanks :) |
| 02:16.20 | Shirik | I wonder if there's a potential job for people just coming up with names |
| 02:16.24 | Shirik | does that exist in marketing? |
| 02:18.21 | Kyahx | It does now! |
| 02:22.16 | Kyahx | is voice chat live on PTR, or are they just tempting us with menus |
| 02:23.26 | Legorol | not live |
| 02:23.32 | Legorol | when it went down for maintenance |
| 02:23.44 | Legorol | they said it wont' be live for a whileyet |
| 02:25.09 | Kyahx | didn't think so |
| 02:25.33 | Legorol | is WoW going to be the first major mmorpg to have integrated voice chat? |
| 02:26.03 | Nom- | No |
| 02:26.05 | Nom- | Eve Online has it |
| 02:26.17 | sysrage | i forsee it sucking ass and everybody still uses vent anyway |
| 02:26.36 | Nom- | If they do it properly, it'll be fine |
| 02:26.36 | Legorol | some of the menus are working though! |
| 02:26.40 | Legorol | i can test the microphone |
| 02:27.17 | Lunessa | Legrol - City of Heros/City of Villains has had it for a year or so. |
| 02:28.31 | Legorol | ok |
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| 02:34.42 | Shirik | I'll still use vent |
| 02:34.46 | Shirik | regardless |
| 02:35.15 | Shirik | the biggest effect I think this has is on pugs |
| 02:39.22 | Shirik | wtf |
| 02:39.28 | Shirik | is everything from china being recalled? |
| 02:39.40 | Shirik | now toys containing lead? This is getting rediculous tbh |
| 02:41.49 | KarlKFI | RlrlrlRLRLLRLGRLGRLGlglglglgl! |
| 02:49.28 | ckknight | ch-ch-ch-chinaman |
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| 03:02.00 | Legorol | oh the new channel UI is nice |
| 03:02.07 | Legorol | and it's even semi-working already |
| 03:02.34 | Shirik | heading out, take care guys |
| 03:02.41 | haste | how does it look? |
| 03:02.53 | Legorol | go to PTR, press O, go to Channel tab |
| 03:03.02 | Legorol | it's two columns |
| 03:03.08 | Legorol | on the left side, you have a list of channels you are in |
| 03:03.09 | haste | that would require me to subscribe to cedega first |
| 03:03.18 | Legorol | in the right side, it lists the people in the channel you select on the left |
| 03:03.34 | Legorol | you can join/create/leave chat and voice channels from this interface |
| 03:03.46 | Legorol | i coudl for example just click Trade, and it listed everyone currently in trade channel |
| 03:04.13 | Legorol | bit buggy though |
| 03:06.27 | Legorol | yay, i made a voice chat channel |
| 03:06.30 | Legorol | no voice on it though :'( |
| 03:15.48 | Legorol | uhm... i think there is a problem here: |
| 03:16.02 | Legorol | the special "event realms" for blizzcon, it seems you can only copy a char on there if you are a US player |
| 03:16.13 | Legorol | this seems to royally screw over those blizzcon attendees who play in other regions |
| 03:17.59 | Thrae | How can one not like anime? Such as this anime I'm watching right now, where a young, timid Japanese boy finds out that he will be the 10th leader of the Mafia alliance, from a hitman, who's also a superhuman infant. The infant hitman is sent to train the boy, which usually results in the hitman shooting the boy with various bullets, the most popular of which is the "Dying Will" bullet. This makes the boy superhuman, using his feel |
| 03:18.12 | Thrae | ...the most popular of which is the "Dying Will" bullet. This makes the boy superhuman, using his feelings of regret, and also rips off all his clothes except his underwear. |
| 03:18.50 | Lunessa | ... People will watch anything. |
| 03:18.54 | Legorol | Thrae: you are watching Reborn |
| 03:18.57 | Legorol | It's a great series. |
| 03:19.06 | Legorol | I have the original comic book series in japanese sitting here next to me :o) |
| 03:19.21 | Legorol | there, people do love anime ;-) |
| 03:19.30 | Thrae | Legorol: Indeed. I've been following it since it first got sub'd. |
| 03:19.42 | Legorol | the TV series is very compressed though |
| 03:19.51 | Legorol | in about 3 episodes it covers the content of 5 volumes of the comic |
| 03:20.01 | Thrae | They usually are. |
| 03:20.07 | Legorol | they usually are the opposite |
| 03:20.17 | Thrae | Well, not -that- compressed |
| 03:20.19 | Legorol | the TV series is dragged out, and often include episodes made just for TV |
| 03:20.30 | Legorol | because they catch up with the comic otherwise |
| 03:20.37 | Nom- | haxx |
| 03:20.38 | Legorol | but with Reborn, it's the other way around |
| 03:20.49 | Nom- | I just found one of those mods which creates unit frames for your enemies in the arena |
| 03:20.55 | Legorol | filler eps, since they are not written by the original author, are normally crap |
| 03:20.59 | Nom- | I didn't think they'd exist, but stumbled accross it :D |
| 03:21.08 | Thrae | Right, I know that. |
| 03:21.23 | Thrae | Hence the reason why I haven't bothered to watch One Piece or Bleach recently ;) |
| 03:21.26 | Nom- | I was just thinking how f'n awesome that would be too :) |
| 03:21.35 | Legorol | anyhow, it's a great series, and although starts a bit weak, it will get enthralling later |
| 03:21.43 | Legorol | Bleach fillers are over |
| 03:21.47 | Legorol | it's now back to main storyline |
| 03:21.51 | Legorol | but they are dragging it out ;-) |
| 03:21.54 | Thrae | It was interesting from day 1. |
| 03:22.21 | Legorol | i can watch'em in original :o) |
| 03:22.35 | Legorol | and read them |
| 03:23.01 | Legorol | Thrae: are you into crime, thriller, detective stories, puzzles and complex logic? |
| 03:23.07 | Legorol | if so, i thoroughly recommend Death Note |
| 03:23.12 | Legorol | the title might sound creepy, but it's not |
| 03:23.32 | Thrae | Already watched it ;) |
| 03:23.37 | Legorol | in fact it's an intellectual thriller where the two sides battle their wits and logic, one being the "good guy", the other the "bad guy" |
| 03:23.39 | Legorol | ah |
| 03:23.40 | Legorol | ok :D |
| 03:23.57 | Legorol | i loved it |
| 03:24.00 | Thrae | My Manga collection is up to 40GB and my Anime collection is well over 3-4TB. |
| 03:24.11 | Legorol | hmm... |
| 03:24.23 | Legorol | maybe we can work something out? ;-) |
| 03:24.28 | Thrae | Hehe |
| 03:26.52 | Legorol | for those of you who haven't checked out L70 ETC in-game yet, i thoroughly recommend you do |
| 03:26.57 | Legorol | i'd watched it 4 times today |
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| 03:27.48 | Nom- | lolol |
| 03:27.52 | Nom- | browsing wowi on my phone :D |
| 03:28.15 | Kyahx | my too, its called skype |
| 03:28.22 | Kyahx | me too, dammit |
| 03:31.01 | Nom- | lol |
| 03:31.11 | Nom- | The wowi web site is actually useable on a PDA/Phone |
| 03:39.09 | Tem|Food | lol @ the gnome skyguard npc who flirts with you |
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| 03:44.13 | Nom- | gnomes r hot |
| 03:54.09 | Tem | sigh |
| 03:54.16 | Tem | what do you need to do to change your damage font? |
| 03:54.36 | Tem | I mananged to break whatever I had changing mine yesterday, and I can't remember how you do it |
| 03:54.44 | Nom- | SCT |
| 03:54.47 | Nom- | :) |
| 03:54.58 | Tem | hard |
| 03:55.13 | Nom- | ooo |
| 03:55.16 | Nom- | ahh |
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| 04:53.22 | Mr_Rabies2 | 10hrs 8mins 20secs until Blizzcon 2007. |
| 04:53.23 | Mr_Rabies2 | :O |
| 04:53.47 | Arrowmaster | and ive already seen somebody ingame with a murloc suit.... |
| 04:55.54 | Nom- | I am more than a fish |
| 04:55.57 | Nom- | I am more than a man |
| 04:56.01 | Nom- | I am murloc! |
| 04:56.58 | KarlKFI | http://www.karlkfi.com/WoW/Murloc1.jpg http://www.karlkfi.com/WoW/Murloc2.jpg |
| 04:57.35 | Nom- | neither of those links work |
| 04:57.47 | KarlKFI | stop blockign port 82 nub |
| 04:57.57 | Nom- | err |
| 04:58.00 | Nom- | I have no choice |
| 04:58.03 | Nom- | Work firewall |
| 04:58.19 | KarlKFI | excuses! |
| 04:58.31 | Nom- | Fine |
| 04:58.34 | Nom- | I'll remote desktop! |
| 04:58.39 | KarlKFI | Fine |
| 04:59.25 | Nom- | Only n00bs run a web server on port 82 ;( |
| 04:59.47 | KarlKFI | uranub |
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| 05:00.54 | Nom- | I mean |
| 05:01.00 | Nom- | You're obviously running something on port 80 |
| 05:01.07 | Nom- | Otherwise it wouldn't redirect to port 82 |
| 05:01.21 | Nom- | But why not just run it on port 80 like normal people ? |
| 05:01.54 | KarlKFI | the router control panel is port 80. it was easier to redirect than to figure out how to change the control panel so it would still be accessable |
| 05:02.43 | Nom- | Why do you allow your router to be accessible internally ? |
| 05:02.57 | KarlKFI | externally, you mean? |
| 05:03.02 | Nom- | Yes, externally ;P |
| 05:03.14 | Nom- | Plus, my router has port 80 for it's web interface too |
| 05:03.16 | KarlKFI | so i can change the settings without being on site |
| 05:03.20 | Nom- | But I can run my web server along side it |
| 05:03.29 | Nom- | If I need to change settings I set up a remote desktop connection |
| 05:03.31 | KarlKFI | orly... |
| 05:03.59 | Nom- | Yeah, but i'm not silly enough to expose the router config to the outside world :P |
| 05:05.03 | Nom- | I use SSH > Windows XP/Vista Computer (RDP) > Router |
| 05:05.18 | Nom- | SSH tunnels rock for getting around firewalls :) |
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| 05:07.44 | Mr_Rabies2 | bloopidy bloopidy bloop |
| 05:08.23 | Mr_Rabies2 | are you going to blizzcon, KarlKFI? |
| 05:08.42 | KarlKFI | yes |
| 05:08.47 | Mr_Rabies2 | woohoo |
| 05:08.58 | Mr_Rabies2 | i want to go so bad |
| 05:08.58 | Mr_Rabies2 | :[ |
| 05:09.20 | Mr_Rabies2 | i'm too poor to spend all that money on tickets and transportation |
| 05:10.00 | Mr_Rabies2 | hrm, what does the EPC stand for on the murloc suit? :O |
| 05:10.13 | KarlKFI | artist i bet |
| 05:11.30 | Mr_Rabies2 | that's what i was thinking |
| 05:11.47 | Mr_Rabies2 | like in toy story with the kid's name on his foot :O |
| 05:19.03 | Nom- | http://www.wowinsider.com/2007/07/26/wow-moviewatch-soloing-durnholde-heroic/ |
| 05:19.06 | Nom- | bhahaha |
| 05:19.08 | Nom- | death by immolation trap |
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| 05:42.41 | art3mis | holy christ |
| 05:42.54 | art3mis | transformers has made $273million |
| 05:44.43 | art3mis | oh wait im wrong |
| 05:44.54 | art3mis | since release its made 538 million |
| 05:45.22 | Arrowmaster` | how much did it cost to make? |
| 05:45.24 | art3mis | harry potter 703 million |
| 05:45.37 | art3mis | 150mill |
| 05:46.57 | art3mis | www.boxofficemojo,com |
| 05:47.02 | art3mis | its kind of a neat site |
| 05:50.28 | art3mis | wow lord of the rings earned 2.9 billion dollars world wide for its theatre runs |
| 05:50.37 | art3mis | thats pretty awesome |
| 05:51.07 | Nom- | And expected |
| 05:51.09 | Nom- | :) |
| 05:51.29 | Nom- | You know what pisses me off though? |
| 05:51.35 | Nom- | Titanic is the goddamn benchmark |
| 05:51.54 | Nom- | Almost as bad as King Kong |
| 05:53.05 | art3mis | yeah |
| 05:53.19 | art3mis | at least pirates did pretty good for records |
| 05:53.26 | art3mis | but im not sure how spiderman 3 did so well |
| 05:54.42 | Rallion | spiderman 3 did well because nobody knew how much it sucked until they had already seen it, and then it was too late. |
| 05:54.52 | art3mis | heh yeah thats true i spose |
| 05:55.06 | art3mis | that explains the opening but how did it continue to make money |
| 06:00.32 | Nom- | Because not everyone manages to see the movie in the opening weekend |
| 06:00.52 | Nom- | And their friends don't tell them to give it a miss because they're bitter about having wasted $15 on a movie |
| 06:02.25 | art3mis | heh |
| 06:04.09 | Nom- | Best Movie of all Time: The Matrix |
| 06:04.18 | Nom- | I still get goosebumps every time I watch that movie |
| 06:04.38 | Nom- | Although, I must say... Transformers is in the Top 5 :P |
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| 06:05.54 | art3mis | yeah that was pretty awesome |
| 06:06.33 | art3mis | although i was disappointed that megatron wasnt a big fucking totally awesome gun |
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| 06:10.03 | Nom- | lol |
| 06:10.22 | Nom- | The fight scenes were just awesome |
| 06:10.43 | Nom- | The starscream vs US Air Force bit was pretty cool |
| 06:10.49 | art3mis | wow this quest in darkshore sucks balls when you can only be underwater for 1 min |
| 06:10.51 | art3mis | haha yeah |
| 06:11.08 | art3mis | the one thing that bugged me was that the humans stood a chance |
| 06:11.25 | art3mis | the transformers i remember were impervious to all but thier own guns ;P |
| 06:17.09 | Nom- | I dunno about that |
| 06:17.23 | Nom- | remember they called in an airstrike, then a gunship |
| 06:17.38 | Nom- | And all they did was knock off a tiny part of its extremity |
| 06:18.09 | Nom- | That's not really standing a chance... |
| 06:18.32 | art3mis | they shot demolisher in the crotch and he blowed up |
| 06:18.48 | Nom- | umm dont think so |
| 06:18.59 | Nom- | i thought most of the damage was done by the autobots in that sequence |
| 06:18.59 | art3mis | err no wait |
| 06:19.06 | art3mis | nope |
| 06:19.13 | Nom- | ie. Bumblebee while being driven around |
| 06:19.15 | art3mis | you need to watch it again ;P |
| 06:19.27 | art3mis | josh dumhel on the motoro bike |
| 06:22.29 | art3mis | dont get me wrong though |
| 06:22.35 | art3mis | its still an amazingly awesome movie |
| 06:22.41 | Nom- | 'twas a lucky shot :P |
| 06:22.59 | art3mis | hah |
| 06:23.06 | art3mis | oh speaking of awesome movies |
| 06:23.14 | art3mis | resident evil 3 is out in sept |
| 06:23.19 | Nom- | lol |
| 06:23.29 | Nom- | If it's anything like 1 & 2, i'll probably give it a miss |
| 06:23.32 | Nom- | But i've heard it might be OK |
| 06:24.31 | Nom- | lol |
| 06:24.38 | Nom- | they made a sequel to National Treaseure ??? |
| 06:24.49 | art3mis | 1 was great |
| 06:24.54 | art3mis | captured the mood and everything |
| 06:25.02 | art3mis | 2 was alright only because of nemesis |
| 06:25.15 | art3mis | the camera closeups and fight sequences gave me a headache |
| 06:28.04 | art3mis | neat i never realized you can fight in ghost wolf form |
| 06:28.41 | Nom- | lol |
| 06:28.49 | Nom- | most druids don't realise they can fight in travel form either |
| 06:29.03 | Nom- | I remember seeing a video a while back with like 5 or 6 druids in travel form beating up a paladin :P |
| 06:30.14 | Nom- | zomg |
| 06:30.20 | Nom- | i have such a nice view from my office now |
| 06:30.45 | Nom- | i just look 30 degrees to my left and i get a nice view overlooking the river |
| 06:31.09 | art3mis | i can see theworld famous chelsea hotel frommine ;P |
| 06:31.18 | art3mis | im 1/2 a blockfrom it |
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| 06:34.45 | kergoth | hehe, i remember farming leather on my shaman once fighting the mobs in ghost wolf form and skinning and looting in that form, just out of laziness |
| 06:35.42 | Nom- | pfft |
| 06:35.56 | Nom- | I don't think a view of streets can compare to a river view |
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| 06:40.29 | art3mis | heh |
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| 07:58.33 | Mr_Rabies2 | 10hrs 2mins 59secs until Blizzcon 2007. |
| 07:58.35 | Mr_Rabies2 | :dance: |
| 07:59.10 | AnduinLothar | WTB more time 4 sleeps |
| 07:59.29 | Mr_Rabies2 | sleep, man, sleep |
| 07:59.35 | Mr_Rabies2 | you must tell us of the new announcements |
| 07:59.44 | AnduinLothar | and it starts at 10, so it's more like 9 hours and 1 min |
| 08:00.27 | Mr_Rabies2 | i counted from opening ceremony |
| 08:00.39 | AnduinLothar | that at 11? |
| 08:00.41 | Mr_Rabies2 | because 9am-11am is just SC2 trying |
| 08:01.00 | Mr_Rabies2 | http://www.blizzard.com/blizzcon07/schedule.shtml |
| 08:01.45 | Mr_Rabies2 | it's weird how small the convention is |
| 08:01.47 | Mr_Rabies2 | for so many people |
| 08:03.01 | Mr_Rabies2 | ooh, Metzen is gonna be at the lore panel |
| 08:03.05 | Mr_Rabies2 | of course, that makes sense |
| 08:03.16 | Mr_Rabies2 | i'd love to hear metzen talk lore though |
| 08:03.34 | Mr_Rabies2 | man, i'm getting con fever, but i'm too poor to go to any out of state |
| 08:06.48 | Nom- | Starcraft 2 open gaminig ? |
| 08:06.57 | Nom- | You mean they actually have a playable game for people to play 'n stuff ? |
| 08:07.02 | Mr_Rabies2 | yeah |
| 08:07.06 | Mr_Rabies2 | all day |
| 08:07.37 | Tem | oh that sucks |
| 08:07.43 | Mr_Rabies2 | they'll probably have guardians of blizzard standing at the entrance |
| 08:07.48 | Tem | the SC2 demonstration is at the same time as the UI panel |
| 08:07.54 | Mr_Rabies2 | (angry bikers they hired for 100 bucks to sit there looking angry) |
| 08:08.19 | Nom- | Did they announce a release date for SC2 yet then ? |
| 08:09.17 | Mr_Rabies2 | nope |
| 08:09.35 | Mr_Rabies2 | it's probably finished |
| 08:09.37 | Mr_Rabies2 | or very close |
| 08:10.35 | Mr_Rabies2 | It has been stated that development on the game began in 2003, shortly after Warcraft III: The Frozen Throne was released. |
| 08:10.57 | krka | still, it's probably atleast a year away |
| 08:11.02 | Mr_Rabies2 | i'm guessing march 2008 |
| 08:11.02 | krka | they haven't showed much of zerg at all |
| 08:11.04 | Mr_Rabies2 | we'll see |
| 08:11.13 | Mr_Rabies2 | haven't shown != not finished |
| 08:11.19 | krka | for all we know, only toss and terran are even close to finished |
| 08:11.26 | krka | and they will probably tweak balance for ages |
| 08:11.42 | krka | i'll say 6 months after beta starts |
| 08:12.01 | Mr_Rabies2 | i'm guessing beta in october-november |
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| 08:24.39 | Mr_Rabies2 | we'll see |
| 08:24.54 | Mr_Rabies2 | i could be way off but i bet the game's finished other than balancing |
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| 08:36.31 | Mr_Rabies2 | someone do me a favor and say !blizz |
| 08:36.32 | Mr_Rabies2 | :O |
| 08:36.45 | krka | !blizz |
| 08:36.58 | Mr_Rabies2 | did that work? :o |
| 08:37.05 | krka | yes |
| 08:37.17 | Mr_Rabies2 | seems like a waste to make that now but it took like 5 mins |
| 08:37.47 | Mr_Rabies2 | most of that being me hunting down my other script using $duration |
| 08:41.23 | Mr_Rabies2 | damn, i'm looking at this WWS thing for some guild on kaz'rogal and a feral druid's dps #5 :D |
| 08:41.50 | zenzelezz | ferals can be pretty imba |
| 08:41.50 | Mr_Rabies2 | http://www.lossendil.com/wws/?report=k5kadas5l2rrg&s=12720-12891 |
| 08:42.05 | Mr_Rabies2 | they're good pve dps but that's about it |
| 08:42.15 | Mr_Rabies2 | on bleedable mobs |
| 08:42.18 | zenzelezz | for me PvE is all there is |
| 08:43.02 | Nom- | wtf ?? |
| 08:43.06 | Nom- | 2609 dps ??? |
| 08:43.27 | Nom- | oh... BT |
| 08:43.37 | Mr_Rabies2 | he has the warglaives |
| 08:43.50 | Nom- | that's soooooooooooooooo nuts |
| 08:44.09 | Mr_Rabies2 | http://armory.worldofwarcraft.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Illidan&n=Ryetoast there's the druid |
| 08:44.11 | Mr_Rabies2 | and |
| 08:44.46 | Mr_Rabies2 | http://armory.worldofwarcraft.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Illidan&n=furi |
| 08:44.48 | Mr_Rabies2 | there's the rogue |
| 08:45.17 | Nom- | The DPS is like 2.5 times what you see in SSC/Gruul |
| 08:45.22 | Nom- | That just seems whacked :/ |
| 08:45.34 | Nom- | Those guys must completely dominate PvP |
| 08:45.53 | Mr_Rabies2 | his arena team is 1st on the server |
| 08:45.55 | Mr_Rabies2 | so i guess so |
| 08:46.05 | Mr_Rabies2 | or, in the bgroup? |
| 08:46.09 | Mr_Rabies2 | i forget how it's listed |
| 08:46.16 | zenzelezz | didn't think the offhand had dropped yet :-o |
| 08:46.24 | Nom- | no wonder |
| 08:46.30 | Nom- | his auto attacks crit for 2.2k |
| 08:46.39 | Nom- | 47% crit |
| 08:46.42 | Nom- | holy |
| 08:46.43 | Mr_Rabies2 | actually he hasn't done any arena this season |
| 08:46.57 | Mr_Rabies2 | in his 5v5 |
| 08:47.03 | Nom- | look that's doing it too |
| 08:47.04 | Nom- | Seal of Light&ab=34110 46149 %31100 %337421 |
| 08:47.19 | Nom- | 337 average tick, 421 max |
| 08:47.33 | Nom- | with the 2-piece T4 that should *only* hit for 115 healing |
| 08:48.45 | Nom- | Even a T4 MS warrior would have trouble living through that kind of damage |
| 08:49.26 | zenzelezz | I might be missing something, but what does MS have to do with survivability? |
| 08:49.36 | Mr_Rabies2 | i'm done with arenas for now |
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| 08:51.08 | Nom- | well, they've the most heavily armored PvP warriors, zenzelezz |
| 08:51.19 | Nom- | Most hitpoints, highest AC (along with paladin) |
| 08:51.35 | zenzelezz | aha |
| 08:51.48 | Nom- | what level of armor mitigation do bosses usually hve ? |
| 08:51.50 | Nom- | 60% |
| 08:51.50 | Nom- | ? |
| 08:52.33 | Nom- | If those are unmitigated damages, then it might be ok |
| 08:52.39 | Nom- | but if they're mitigated then holy crap |
| 08:52.59 | Nom- | that rogue could (with two crits) throw out 4k damage in 1.5 seconds |
| 08:53.09 | Nom- | just with sinister strike |
| 08:53.11 | Nom- | on plate |
| 08:53.49 | Mr_Rabies2 | i had shred critting for 2700 in Steamvaults yesterday :D |
| 08:53.54 | zenzelezz | :-o |
| 08:54.19 | Mr_Rabies2 | holy crap |
| 08:54.25 | Mr_Rabies2 | Ryetoast in that raid |
| 08:54.29 | Mr_Rabies2 | had a shred crit for 4174 |
| 08:54.29 | Nom- | yeah but dungeon trash, i imagine wouldn't be as heavily armored as bosses |
| 08:54.32 | zenzelezz | barring Execute, my highest damage ability is Shield Slam, critting for ~1000-1100 usually |
| 08:54.44 | Nom- | lol zenzelezz |
| 08:54.45 | zenzelezz | imba prot DPS |
| 08:55.09 | Nom- | I crit up on SoC for about 2.2k without the 30% damage buff |
| 08:55.10 | zenzelezz | Revenge critting for 500-600, Heroic Strike marginally less IIRC |
| 08:55.15 | Nom- | not terrible |
| 08:55.48 | Mr_Rabies2 | my highest bear mangle crit post nerf is 1200 |
| 08:55.49 | zenzelezz | and let's not for get the 110-point Shield Bash crits x.x SB crits should just increase the duration of the silence slightly rather than increase damage |
| 08:55.56 | Mr_Rabies2 | and that's in cat form gear which makes me useless :[ |
| 08:56.07 | zenzelezz | okay, how did that space get into the middle of "forget" |
| 08:56.27 | Mr_Rabies2 | i cleaved it in twain with my massive brain |
| 08:56.44 | zenzelezz | TWAIN has to be the best acronym ever |
| 08:57.56 | Nom- | yay new monitor just got dropped off at home for me |
| 08:58.01 | Nom- | 22" Widescreen FTW |
| 08:58.04 | zenzelezz | nice :) |
| 08:58.08 | Mr_Rabies2 | nice |
| 08:58.37 | Mr_Rabies2 | i wish i could have fun pvping :[ |
| 08:58.48 | Mr_Rabies2 | BGs are full of AFKers and i get totally destroyed in arenas |
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| 08:59.10 | zenzelezz | I don't think it would matter how large my monitor was, I'd still need a second one... too used to it by now |
| 09:01.04 | Mr_Rabies2 | i dunno man |
| 09:01.09 | Mr_Rabies2 | what if it was as large as texas |
| 09:01.23 | Mr_Rabies2 | and also in the shape of texas for the hell of it |
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| 09:01.55 | zenzelezz | if it was the shape of Texas then it wouldn't be a problem, I could put the second one in one of the unobstructed areas; but the size would make it hard to watch the other one |
| 09:02.54 | Mr_Rabies2 | not if you were watching it from across the state |
| 09:03.11 | zenzelezz | perhaps |
| 09:03.23 | Mr_Rabies2 | browsing porn would probably be pretty akward though |
| 09:03.52 | Nom- | Mr_Rabies2: There's a secret to playing in arena's i find |
| 09:03.55 | Nom- | Well, a few |
| 09:04.08 | Nom- | 1. The team that charges in always dies (unless they complete outgear the other). |
| 09:04.21 | Nom- | 2. The team which doesn't stay together (ie. within LoS and healing range) dies |
| 09:04.26 | Mr_Rabies2 | from what i've seen the best bet is to stay in bear form and hope the other team's stupid enough to attack you |
| 09:04.43 | Mr_Rabies2 | (in most cases they aren't above 1600 or so) |
| 09:05.02 | zenzelezz | 1600 enemies still hurt |
| 09:05.06 | Mr_Rabies2 | while the rest of your team does all the work, soak up the damage from the idiots |
| 09:05.23 | Mr_Rabies2 | usually they're not smart enough so i'm just a fifth wheel |
| 09:05.44 | Mr_Rabies2 | either i can't do crap for dps or get killed within seconds |
| 09:06.08 | Mr_Rabies2 | er |
| 09:06.23 | Mr_Rabies2 | usually they're smart enough to ignore me so i'm just a fifth wheel* |
| 09:06.49 | Mr_Rabies2 | except when i'm in cat or especially caster form, then i'm public enemy #1 because they know i'm going to go down fast |
| 09:09.11 | Mr_Rabies2 | so yeah, no more arenas for me until druids get looked at for arenas |
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| 09:12.38 | Mr_Rabies2 | i play about 5-10 hours a week now, for kara |
| 09:12.47 | Mr_Rabies2 | everything else is boring or a waste of time or both :[ |
| 09:13.10 | Mr_Rabies2 | so the next expansion can't come sooner |
| 09:13.23 | Mr_Rabies2 | soon enough* |
| 09:13.25 | Mr_Rabies2 | i need to sleep |
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| 09:27.58 | Nom- | You should be charging healers and other casters |
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| 09:28.01 | Nom- | and bashing them |
| 09:28.09 | Nom- | and generally being a PITA |
| 09:29.02 | krka_ | i am good at that last part"! |
| 09:29.35 | Nom- | I was talking to Mr_Rabies2 about being a drood in arena |
| 09:29.36 | Nom- | :P |
| 09:30.23 | Mr_Rabies2 | nom |
| 09:30.29 | Mr_Rabies2 | charge really isn't all that annoying |
| 09:30.48 | Mr_Rabies2 | except to hunters |
| 09:30.49 | Mr_Rabies2 | :P |
| 09:31.34 | Mr_Rabies2 | it's a great talent but feral charge alone doesn't win matchesdoesn't win matches |
| 09:31.36 | Mr_Rabies2 | wow |
| 09:31.40 | Mr_Rabies2 | what did i do there |
| 09:31.41 | Mr_Rabies2 | rofl |
| 09:31.49 | Mr_Rabies2 | internet stutter |
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| 09:35.46 | d2x2 | hi |
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| 09:37.01 | d2x2 | i finished my four in a row mod, pleae feel free to test is (beta) http://www.donoboso.com/goblinsfour/ |
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| 09:38.28 | Nom- | nite all |
| 09:38.34 | Nom- | almost home time, and definately beer o'clock |
| 09:38.51 | Nom- | be back in a couple of hours when I get home and set up my shiny new monitor :D |
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| 10:29.23 | d2x2 | hm, now, my four in a row addon is roundbase, i would like to do a minigame with a bit more action |
| 10:30.19 | d2x2 | as the addons should be used with events, is there an event like "call me every 25th of a second" or what happens if you put a loop into your addon? |
| 10:30.58 | zenzelezz | there is no such event, but there are addons that let you create timers. Loops should be used with care |
| 10:31.55 | d2x2 | can you create your own event that calls your addon every now and again? |
| 10:34.34 | d2x2 | hm |
| 10:37.37 | Mr_Rabies2 | 7hrs 23mins 55secs until Blizzcon 2007. |
| 10:37.39 | Mr_Rabies2 | :O |
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| 11:05.54 | Nom- | lol |
| 11:05.54 | Nom- | \ |
| 11:05.59 | Nom- | when they say wide screen |
| 11:06.01 | Nom- | they're not kidding |
| 11:06.21 | zenzelezz | depends on the ratio; 16:9? |
| 11:06.33 | Nom- | yup |
| 11:06.39 | Nom- | sorry 16:10 |
| 11:06.47 | nevcairiel | 22" wide is really big when you look at it the first ime |
| 11:06.51 | zenzelezz | that would be fairly wide, yeah |
| 11:06.53 | nevcairiel | but for coding, its teh sex |
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| 11:07.39 | nevcairiel | even for WoW its amazing, so much space for your UI <3 |
| 11:09.09 | Nom- | that's why i wanted it :) |
| 11:09.14 | Nom- | i ran out of UI real estate |
| 11:09.40 | nevcairiel | i got one a few weeks ago .. was some offer from a local store .. but i returned it two days later because the image quality sucked |
| 11:09.50 | nevcairiel | stupid 22" on the same lcd panel as a 19" .. :( |
| 11:14.58 | Nom- | image quality on this one seems fine |
| 11:15.09 | Nom- | It's a cheapy too |
| 11:15.46 | nevcairiel | what brand/type is it? |
| 11:16.34 | Nom- | AOC 210V |
| 11:17.46 | nevcairiel | never heard. . and when i google i only get chinese pages, fascinating =P |
| 11:38.32 | Legorol | Is Blizzcon starting today? |
| 11:38.36 | Legorol | it is isn't it |
| 11:38.59 | JoshBorke | yes it is |
| 11:39.22 | krka_ | i declare it a silly thing. i'm even glad i am not there! |
| 11:39.29 | krka_ | let's make a united stand against it, Legorol |
| 11:43.07 | JoshBorke | no |
| 11:43.11 | JoshBorke | it is not a silly thing |
| 11:43.15 | JoshBorke | and i'm disappointed i'm not there |
| 11:43.21 | JoshBorke | :-P |
| 11:43.24 | krka_ | you have to pretend it's silly! |
| 11:43.27 | krka_ | you're ruining it |
| 11:43.37 | JoshBorke | i only wish i could watch it online while at work today |
| 11:43.51 | krka_ | web streaming would pwn |
| 11:43.56 | JoshBorke | they have it |
| 11:44.04 | JoshBorke | but only for windows ;-P |
| 11:44.24 | JoshBorke | http://www.giga.de/2/live/free/ |
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| 11:52.48 | krka_ | the video has a weird color palette |
| 11:52.48 | krka_ | looks annoying |
| 11:52.48 | zenzelezz | think of it as early porn, or RealPlayer |
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| 13:26.58 | zenzelezz | "And blaming the guidelines, moderation or lack of your own ability to have fun within the guidelines on a single moderator is just silly. Sheesh." <-- I love the "sheesh" part |
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| 14:01.35 | clad|away | Could I spec Demonology to level? |
| 14:01.44 | clad|away | or whats the easiest, least downtime? |
| 14:01.51 | TS|Skrom | demo is okay for level |
| 14:02.02 | TS|Skrom | not my preferred though |
| 14:02.08 | clad|away | whats your preferred? |
| 14:02.18 | TS|Skrom | unless things have changed, drain tanking is the quickest level |
| 14:02.26 | TS|Skrom | it was for me when I went from 1-57 in a month of casual play |
| 14:03.10 | clad|away | yeah i've done the drain tanking thing |
| 14:03.12 | clad|away | i enjoy it |
| 14:03.14 | clad|away | but like the thought of pets, have to look at the talents. |
| 14:03.33 | TS|Skrom | 10-29 : http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=NVZcbIzh |
| 14:04.29 | TS|Skrom | 30-40: http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=Iy0bVRfzVz |
| 14:04.39 | TS|Skrom | I'm linking what I did btw |
| 14:05.04 | clad|away | k |
| 14:05.28 | TS|Skrom | 41-57 : http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=Ny0bVRfzVzZcxczcb |
| 14:05.52 | TS|Skrom | Current @62 : http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=IyMbVRfzVuZcxczcb |
| 14:06.24 | clad|away | Destro isn't good at all? |
| 14:06.36 | TS|Skrom | from 10-29 I used voidwalker. Pull two mobs, dot both, pet on one fear the other, rinse repeat |
| 14:06.56 | TS|Skrom | 30-40 was with succy. Drain tank with succy damage |
| 14:07.17 | Lopeppeppy | That's the level I'm at with my warlock. |
| 14:07.52 | TS|Skrom | 40-57 was imp, more drain tanking with better dots and dark pact. Literally didn't die solo (only died in crappy instance groups) during that entire stretch, was pretty much full mana/health within seconds of each fights end |
| 14:07.58 | clad|away | aye, i've done the whole train tanking thing |
| 14:08.15 | clad|away | trying to see what else there is :P |
| 14:08.28 | TS|Skrom | and that's pretty much how I roll now, only time I don't have my imp out is when I'm playing Doomguard tag |
| 14:08.46 | Lopeppeppy | Get a druid tank to take your hits and laugh, Cladhaire... that's what my warlock friend does to me. *cry* |
| 14:08.50 | TS|Skrom | Destro isn't generally considered good for leveling because it's very mana intensive |
| 14:10.23 | TS|Skrom | You don't have the same dot power (imp corruption, amplified agonies, siphon life) or staying power (no drain tanking due to interrupts, no siphon life) |
| 14:10.30 | TS|Skrom | I cast shadowbolts only when nightfall procs |
| 14:11.14 | clad|away | hrm |
| 14:11.36 | TS|Skrom | demo can be a good leveler after 40, and moreso after 50 |
| 14:11.50 | clad|away | with the guard |
| 14:12.09 | TS|Skrom | yeah, my biggest problem and what I base lock leveling theory on is this: |
| 14:12.22 | TS|Skrom | If you have to do less damage so that you aren't tanking instead of the pet, you are killing slower |
| 14:12.31 | TS|Skrom | if you don't want to kill slower then you are going to take hits |
| 14:12.38 | TS|Skrom | if you are going to take hits you need some way to recover that |
| 14:13.09 | TS|Skrom | the only way my void could tank for me from 10-29 was because I'd pull two mobs and let him take one that I only dotted |
| 14:13.15 | TS|Skrom | the other got dotted, feared and wanded |
| 14:13.24 | TS|Skrom | and I still pulled aggro off him from time to time |
| 14:14.13 | TS|Skrom | The succy on the other hand I dind't want her to take because she's pretty fragile. It was okay though because at that point I could make up for the hits I was taking (drain tanking is hugely inefficient before 30, the drain life spell you get at 30 is the first "good" one) |
| 14:15.25 | TS|Skrom | so I'd dot the mob up, maybe even toss a shadowbolt and let her beat on it's rear while I kept my health up (typical drain tanking). When I got to 40 though it was more efficient to just step up my personal damage and then drain my pets mana back to me. Add to that the health bonus from imp and the extra damage from fire shield (might be small but over time it stacks up) and I was quicker then ever |
| 14:16.01 | clad|away | k |
| 14:16.02 | clad|away | thanks |
| 14:16.04 | clad|away | thats waht i suspected |
| 14:16.10 | clad|away | i've leveled to 45 as drain tank |
| 14:16.50 | Josh_Borke | it's so much fun to dot, dot, dot, fear, dot, dot, dot a new mob, fear new mob, and the first one is dead |
| 14:19.53 | haste | you can only fear one mob at once tho' |
| 14:19.58 | haste | unless you use howl of terror |
| 14:20.09 | haste | but that has 40s cd again |
| 14:22.20 | Josh_Borke | when i feared the second mob the first mob started running back to me |
| 14:22.51 | TS|Skrom | by the time the first mob gets back it's dead |
| 14:23.28 | zenzelezz | do they aggro other mobs while feared? |
| 14:23.32 | TS|Skrom | sometimes |
| 14:23.38 | TS|Skrom | so you pick wide open spaces |
| 14:23.45 | TS|Skrom | outdoor grind spots ftw |
| 14:24.12 | TS|Skrom | if there's not enough room for it then you just do one mob at a time and do standard drain tanking |
| 14:25.25 | TS|Skrom | all this talk makes me want to play her some hehe she's been shelved for like 3 weeks now whiel I worked on my druid, shaman and pally |
| 14:25.37 | zenzelezz | warlocks seem like a complicated class. When I started I picked a warrior, which was easy enough in DPS mode :-p Took some more effort to learn tanking, but still didn't seem very complicated compared to a few other classes |
| 14:25.43 | Lopeppeppy | You made me go take a peek at mine, maybe I'll give her some lovin'. |
| 14:25.47 | zenzelezz | I pity healers, especially in raids |
| 14:25.59 | Lopeppeppy | I like to heal. I hate to buff. |
| 14:26.08 | TS|Skrom | ^-- agree |
| 14:26.10 | zenzelezz | thankfully all I do is shout |
| 14:26.24 | zenzelezz | back in Anarchy Online I was a total buff bot; but most classes were to some degree |
| 14:26.26 | TS|Skrom | i'd be a terrible warrior if my sole responsibility was to shout XD |
| 14:26.55 | Lopeppeppy | Warrior shouts can be very key. My raid group has been very.... "buff bot" lately toward my paladins, I'm workin' on some equity. |
| 14:27.08 | TS|Skrom | thankfully I tank well so people don't care so much. I try to recast blessings before they expire because then I have icons to remind me to recast XD |
| 14:28.06 | TS|Skrom | http://armory.worldofwarcraft.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Uldum&n=Rho <3 |
| 14:56.37 | TS|Skrom | Lopeppeppy |
| 14:56.56 | Lopeppeppy | Ya? |
| 14:57.03 | TS|Skrom | I've got the backbone of TankTattler done. Just gotta put a front end on it (kinda stumped on that part, I'm no good at the graphical part of mods) |
| 14:57.25 | zenzelezz | what's that? |
| 14:57.29 | Lopeppeppy | Whee! *happy hugs* I'll practice using it on my warrior, if he stops standing me up for instance dates. |
| 14:57.34 | Lopeppeppy | Does it tattle on druids in cat form too? |
| 14:57.46 | TS|Skrom | Well no because that's kinda obvious lol |
| 14:58.06 | zenzelezz | what, your druids don't owltank? |
| 14:58.13 | TS|Skrom | it's a little mod that watches for certain spellcasts and "informs" on the warrior in your group as to what stance he's in |
| 14:58.25 | TS|Skrom | i.e. if he casts overpower he has to be in battle, etc |
| 14:58.42 | Lopeppeppy | I could do an owltank if they hold aggro, I can do anything that doesn't let the mobs slip by and kill me. I hate to die. |
| 14:59.49 | zenzelezz | do you mean it whines at the warrior or just lets you know? |
| 14:59.54 | TS|Skrom | Just lets you know |
| 15:00.03 | TS|Skrom | trying to decide how to make it "let you know" |
| 15:00.06 | zenzelezz | ah, nice |
| 15:00.22 | zenzelezz | would be a bit pissed if I kept getting a tell or something every time I used Berserker Rage :-) |
| 15:00.24 | TS|Skrom | Originally I thought just a box that expands up for each warrior in the group/raid with their name and the icon next to it |
| 15:01.22 | TS|Skrom | then I thought maybe a fubar plugin that just shows the names/icons on the dropdown tooltip |
| 15:01.40 | TS|Skrom | I like that idea best but I know nothing about making a fubar plugin XD |
| 15:02.03 | Lopeppeppy | Hrm.... me neither, although I do adore the idea. |
| 15:04.03 | TS|Skrom | also I'd like to put on there a timer that shows how long since they've entered that stance (if available) |
| 15:04.42 | Lopeppeppy | Would stance-dancing just confuse it? Especially if it tries to generate a bar? Just thinking of the fear-dance. |
| 15:04.49 | TS|Skrom | "but I am taunting", "impossible, you've been in battle stance for 20 mins" |
| 15:05.05 | Lopeppeppy | Yuh-huh. |
| 15:05.09 | TS|Skrom | bar? no, no bar, just a text timer. not sure what you mean by bar |
| 15:05.13 | TS|Skrom | but no it shouldn't |
| 15:06.08 | TS|Skrom | it just watches for UNIT_SPELLCAST_SENT, checks arg1 vs the list of warriors in your group/raid, if it finds one it checks the spell vs. a small table of stance specific spells, if it finds a match it changes that warriors entry to whatever that spell is listed as |
| 15:06.26 | TS|Skrom | so each UNIT_SPELLCAST_SENT would trigger an update to both the label and the timer |
| 15:06.44 | Lopeppeppy | Text timer would be simpler than a timer bar, I should hope, ya. |
| 15:06.44 | zenzelezz | so it doesn't check for the actual stance switch? |
| 15:06.50 | TS|Skrom | that too |
| 15:07.03 | TS|Skrom | when you switch it sends a UNIT_SPELLCAST_SENT as well |
| 15:07.08 | TS|Skrom | it's still a spell :) |
| 15:07.19 | zenzelezz | yeah, I was just curious from the way you described it |
| 15:07.31 | TS|Skrom | yeah Defensive Stance for example is on the hash table |
| 15:07.51 | TS|Skrom | basically the tables is (not actual names mind you) spells = {["Defensive Stance"] = Defensive;] |
| 15:07.55 | TS|Skrom | er |
| 15:07.59 | TS|Skrom | well you get the idea |
| 15:08.04 | zenzelezz | since I could switch to Berserker Stance, do Berserker Rage, switch back and hit a fair amount of abilities that aren't exclusively Defensive Stance |
| 15:08.16 | TS|Skrom | for k,v on spells if arg2 = k then stance = v |
| 15:08.31 | TS|Skrom | it's ONLY checking for the spells that are exclusive |
| 15:08.36 | Lopeppeppy | http://bayimg.com/KAcIdaABe |
| 15:08.46 | TS|Skrom | if it hasn't caught an exclusive since you've been in the group it assumes battle til it catches one |
| 15:08.49 | zenzelezz | that's why I asked if it checks for the actual stance change or only the abilities |
| 15:09.07 | TS|Skrom | yep yep |
| 15:09.45 | TS|Skrom | sorry I wasn't too clear hehe. Defensive stance is technically a "defensive stance exclusive" ability |
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| 15:10.03 | TS|Skrom | at least as far as this mod goes :P |
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| 16:00.14 | TS|Skrom | ooo, a Dwarven 5 Fighter/ 10 Duelist wearing chainmail fighting a giant defensively and using combat expertise has an AC of like 37 |
| 16:01.29 | zenzelezz | wish I understood how those things worked |
| 16:01.35 | TS|Skrom | if you take away the chainmail, give her a 20 int and a 20 dex and it's 42 |
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| 16:03.03 | TS|Skrom | Base is 10, Dwarves get +4 vs. giants, duelists have to have the dodge feat so that's +1, Fighting defensively adds +2, but a duelist can add an additional +1 per duelist level so +12, combat expertise can be as much as +5 (for -5 to hit), a dex of 20 adds +5 and as a duelist using no armor and no shield they can add up to their intelligence bonus to their ac |
| 16:03.19 | TS|Skrom | so another 5 |
| 16:11.15 | TS|Skrom | take improved combat expertise and you've got a 52 AC character in nothing but clothes |
| 16:11.58 | zenzelezz | still greek to me ;-) |
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| 17:22.39 | Nom- | bleh, 30 min queue on PTR |
| 17:22.53 | Lopeppeppy | Yuk. |
| 17:23.19 | Nom- | Just want to play with my premade warlock :P |
| 17:23.33 | Nom- | I suck at affliction spec apparently, so trying demonology |
| 17:24.30 | Lopeppeppy | I forgot I could test a pre-made... I should sign up and check out Assassination again. |
| 17:24.43 | zenzelezz | Assassination locks pwn |
| 17:29.24 | zenzelezz | I see I win at funny again |
| 17:30.38 | Lopeppeppy | You win, Zenzelezz. |
| 17:33.53 | Nom- | has blizzcon started yet ? |
| 17:34.00 | zenzelezz | you don't sound convinced Lopeppeppy; but I can't say I blame you |
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| 17:34.26 | Lunessa | Oh yes, zenzelezz brings teh funneh. |
| 17:34.32 | Lopeppeppy | My cat is still cuter, zenzelezz, she wins all my prizes. |
| 17:34.53 | zenzelezz | of course she does :-) |
| 17:35.01 | zenzelezz | and I never claimed to be cute o_O |
| 17:35.05 | Nom- | ugh |
| 17:35.19 | Nom- | wow.allakhazam is carrying a story on the xpac |
| 17:35.26 | Nom- | looks like it is going to be level 80 |
| 17:35.33 | Nom- | yet another set of content wasted :( |
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| 17:36.33 | Lopeppeppy | Meh. I will remain content to explore what I've got, thank ye very much. |
| 17:36.34 | Lunessa | raising level caps blows. |
| 17:36.37 | zenzelezz | I'll wait and see, easier that way |
| 17:36.47 | Nom- | I agree, Lunessa |
| 17:36.58 | Nom- | Aside from the extra time to do the levelling, it's wasting content |
| 17:37.02 | zenzelezz | in a way it does, but it can also be hard to expand on classes without doing so |
| 17:37.24 | Nom- | True, but they could do just a purely content patch |
| 17:37.33 | Nom- | content expansion even |
| 17:37.52 | Nom- | I've seen no announcements on release dates |
| 17:37.57 | Antiarc|Work | To be honest, I feel like I've sucked every ounce I can out of the non-25-man TBC content. |
| 17:38.00 | zenzelezz | they could, but I'm not sure everyone will find running SSC+TK -> Hyjal + BT as easy as Gruul and Karazhan, just to be able to get the new, better gear |
| 17:38.05 | Nom- | The problem is |
| 17:38.20 | Nom- | If they release it in the next 6 months, a lot of raiding guilds will collapse again |
| 17:38.37 | Lopeppeppy | And I've just seen my group pulling through that, at last, I don't want to do it again. |
| 17:38.44 | Nom- | In fact, a few of them probably will collapse |
| 17:38.59 | Nom- | Effectively thinking, why bother when it's all going to be redundant again in 6 months |
| 17:39.24 | Nom- | That happened to so many guilds on our server |
| 17:39.37 | Nom- | All raids stopped happening, and everyone went pvp instead, for like 2 months |
| 17:39.42 | Lunessa | See, I'm an officer in a very casual guild on an RP server. I still haven't gotten to see AQ40 or much of BWL - but no one cares to go 'cause there's nothing there for 70s. |
| 17:39.49 | Nom- | we could barely get anything happening beyond ZG |
| 17:39.51 | Lopeppeppy | Same here, Lunessa. |
| 17:39.54 | zenzelezz | Nom-: did that by any chance coincide with 2.0? |
| 17:39.57 | Antiarc|Work | AQ40 was pain, though. |
| 17:39.58 | Lunessa | So another level cap increase means I'll never see the Black Temple. |
| 17:40.03 | Antiarc|Work | Sartura was fun. Twin Emps are fun the first time. |
| 17:40.05 | Nom- | zenzelezz: Yes |
| 17:40.16 | zenzelezz | Nom-: was same on my server, only a few guilds kept raiding |
| 17:40.19 | Nom- | zenzelezz: That's what I mean...an impending xpac means all raiding falls over |
| 17:40.26 | Lunessa | Hell, I've never even been to Naxx, despite getting to Exalted with AD for attunment. |
| 17:40.27 | Antiarc|Work | Lunessa: I know that there are regular BWL pugs on my server |
| 17:40.31 | Antiarc|Work | And Naxx pugs |
| 17:40.36 | Antiarc|Work | You can probably find one if you wanted to go |
| 17:40.38 | Nom- | I can almost guarantee |
| 17:40.42 | Lopeppeppy | We're just getting into Gruul's, Lunessa, and I'm still saddened that I never saw Naxx, AQ40 or beyond the first boss of BWL. |
| 17:40.46 | Nom- | Unless they expansion is 18 months away (or more) |
| 17:40.49 | zenzelezz | Lunessa: you found grinding exalted easier than grinding the gold to do it at revered? |
| 17:40.57 | Nom- | That most guilds are going to give raiding a miss, and concentrate on arena |
| 17:41.03 | Lunessa | I found it cheaper. |
| 17:41.11 | Nom- | well, maybe not most, but certainly many |
| 17:41.26 | Nom- | The should have found another way to diffentiate characters |
| 17:41.36 | Lunessa | At the time Nexus Crystals were something like 50g a pop on my server, and I was in Strat all the time anyway... |
| 17:42.19 | Lunessa | Antiarc|Work: Yes, there are a couple. But run by people I very much want to avoid. VERY much. |
| 17:42.25 | zenzelezz | heh, that happened on my server too, but they dropped to 25 within a month |
| 17:42.25 | Antiarc|Work | Heh, fair enough. |
| 17:42.27 | Lunessa | So I need to get guildees interested. |
| 17:42.40 | Antiarc|Work | Lunessa: I'd definitely encourage you to give it a shot |
| 17:42.41 | Nom- | Well, I just hope they don't release the expansion too soon |
| 17:42.44 | Antiarc|Work | Naxx is wonderful |
| 17:42.48 | Nom- | Otherwise it's going to waste all the Outland content |
| 17:42.56 | Nom- | And we're only just starting in SSC and TK |
| 17:43.04 | Lunessa | zenzelezz: I got it done all on my own. Pugging Strat and Scholo all the time as a priest was easy. :) |
| 17:43.26 | Nom- | anyway, bbs, almost got slot on PTR |
| 17:43.26 | zenzelezz | I know what you mean, I'm a tank :-p |
| 17:43.29 | Lopeppeppy | I can't get my raid mates to be interested in rep instances, much less "old" content. If it's not Karazhan, it's not interesting. |
| 17:44.23 | Lunessa | I finally have enough numbers in my guild that all I have to do is keep selling the idea and some people will eventually get on board. |
| 17:44.46 | Antiarc|Work | Lunessa: I recommend tossing the idea around with a few other guilds, too |
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| 17:45.44 | Nom- | We're actually going into BWL to grind gold lol |
| 17:45.47 | Nom- | Later today |
| 17:46.28 | zenzelezz | finally finished my Frost resistance set... working on my Nature... got pretty good Arcane... all right Fire... and running out of bank space |
| 17:47.14 | zenzelezz | and I think two of the tanks in my guild are getting tired with the game... I have awesome luck with guilds \o/ |
| 17:48.36 | Mr_Rabies2 | 12mins 56secs until Blizzcon 2007. |
| 17:48.44 | Mr_Rabies2 | that is, the opening ceremony :x |
| 17:48.50 | Lopeppeppy | *laugh* Enjoy. |
| 17:49.12 | Nom- | hmmm |
| 17:49.16 | Nom- | i found the voice chat options in the PTR |
| 17:49.22 | Nom- | But I can't get the tests to play anything :( |
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| 17:49.42 | Lunessa | See, the problem I have is that I'm a bit more 'hard core' than some, but not 'hard core' enough to be a real 'raider.' So I have to settle for build things on my own to match my schedules and levels of desire. So I try not to gripe too much about content I haven't seen yet. |
| 17:50.02 | Nom- | and if you go into the options window again, the voice options are hidden lol |
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| 17:52.01 | zenzelezz | I think I came too late to my server to become a real hard-core raider. Those guilds are all full, and can choose from a ton of tanks if they ever need people, so I'm stuck at the normal 3-raids-per-week raid guild level |
| 17:52.38 | Lopeppeppy | I'm kinda happy at that level, but I'm married with a home life and a very long morning commute.... |
| 17:53.30 | zenzelezz | I'd be lying if I said it isn't escapism to me |
| 17:53.56 | Lopeppeppy | Everyone has their vice. |
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| 17:57.17 | Lunessa | ... I raid, MAYBE 1x per week. Because sometimes I just don't want to work that hard. But I have 4 levels 70s with maxxed out professions. |
| 17:59.44 | leethal | is CHAT_MSG_SPELL_PARTY_DAMAGE for raids too? |
| 18:01.40 | leethal | or wolud that be CHAT_MSG_SPELL_FRIENDLYPLAYER_DAMAGE? |
| 18:01.52 | leethal | the last one doesn't seem to capture stuff raid members do though |
| 18:03.01 | leethal | *ping* |
| 18:03.28 | zenzelezz | this is pure speculation, but friendlyplayer could be for people outside your party/raid but in your vicinity? |
| 18:04.05 | leethal | hm yeah probably |
| 18:04.17 | leethal | I'll arse myself and figure out if _PARTY_DAMAGE is for raids too =P |
| 18:04.27 | leethal | not that much work really =) |
| 18:06.17 | Nom- | lol the pvp realm just crashed |
| 18:06.20 | Nom- | pvp ptr that is |
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| 18:12.05 | sysrage | arse yourself? that sounds dirty |
| 18:12.48 | sylvanaar | dont depend on any given message coming in via any specific event |
| 18:12.54 | zenzelezz | not as dirty as half of what goes on in my guild chat usually |
| 18:13.34 | zenzelezz | "Welcome to the European World of Warcraft Realms. \n Guild message of the day: Void Reaver, and we dick tr0pi" |
| 18:14.13 | Lopeppeppy | I don't get it. |
| 18:14.16 | zenzelezz | (poor French guy had an accent when saying "dig" in some conversation) |
| 18:20.00 | Lopeppeppy | Hmm... anyone else with a guild on Guildportal having problems connecting to it? |
| 18:20.20 | deltron | let me try Lopeppeppy |
| 18:20.24 | zenzelezz | hm, wasn't Mike-N-Go saying (or asking) something about Guildportal the other day? |
| 18:20.59 | deltron | Lopeppeppy: mine works |
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| 18:21.20 | Lopeppeppy | Perhaps it's just my own then, sometimes it gets hard hit on a raiding night, I guess. |
| 18:21.27 | Mike-N-Go | zenzelezz: Hi |
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| 18:25.05 | Lunessa | Oh man, caffeine is my friend. |
| 18:28.56 | Lopeppeppy | Yummy Diet Dr. Pepper... |
| 18:29.41 | deltron | <3 diet dr. pepper |
| 18:29.44 | deltron | best soda ever |
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| 18:31.58 | Mr_Rabies2 | D: |
| 18:32.06 | Mr_Rabies2 | arthas just scared me :( |
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| 18:33.11 | Wraanger | heyaz |
| 18:33.35 | Mr_Rabies2 | so most of the rumors ended up being true |
| 18:33.41 | Mr_Rabies2 | Death Knight, Northrend, etc :O |
| 18:35.33 | Lopeppeppy | I still won't believe it until I see it. |
| 18:35.47 | Mr_Rabies2 | it was on the giga stream |
| 18:35.56 | Mr_Rabies2 | they announced a ton of new stuff |
| 18:36.06 | zenzelezz | worldofraids covers it too I think |
| 18:36.07 | Mr_Rabies2 | WotLK is playable at blizzcon |
| 18:36.20 | Mr_Rabies2 | one zone and one instance so far |
| 18:36.33 | Mr_Rabies2 | Howling Fjord and Utgard keep |
| 18:36.47 | Lunessa | Dr. Pepper is the work of Satan. |
| 18:37.20 | Lopeppeppy | Satan is so very friendly these days, too. |
| 18:38.07 | End | Santa!?? |
| 18:38.26 | Lunessa | If Satan can hook me up with a cute redhead, gaming nymphomaniac, then he'd be very friendly indeed. |
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| 18:38.54 | Lopeppeppy | Sorry, I'm married? *laugh* |
| 18:39.14 | Lunessa | I didn't know you were a redhead. :P |
| 18:39.40 | Lopeppeppy | But of course! It's my only justification for being such a hot-tempered psychopath. |
| 18:39.48 | zenzelezz | or a nymphomaniac O_o |
| 18:40.18 | Lunessa | If she can keep up around here, that's almost a given. |
| 18:40.38 | Lopeppeppy | That's not entirely genetic, zenzelezz, but I do try to compensate for my poor chromosomes. |
| 18:41.01 | zenzelezz | I don't know Lunessa, I'm fairly sure listening to us sad bastards is some way from the real deal ;-o |
| 18:41.28 | Lunessa | ... I'm not a bastard. |
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| 18:41.37 | Lunessa | My parents were married. |
| 18:41.48 | Lunessa | I'm a son of a bitch though. |
| 18:42.00 | Lunessa | :P |
| 18:42.05 | zenzelezz | were they married to each other? |
| 18:42.46 | Lunessa | Oh yes, indeedy they were. |
| 18:42.50 | Lopeppeppy | Awww.... technicalities rock. |
| 18:43.30 | Lunessa | My mom and I were fighting about something once, and she called me a "little son of a bitch." That pretty much ended the fight as we busted out laughing. |
| 18:43.30 | Mr_Rabies2 | i'm pumped for WotLK :x |
| 18:43.50 | Lopeppeppy | LK... lion king.... |
| 18:44.00 | Lopeppeppy | "Well I've never seen a King of Beasts with quite so little hair!" |
| 18:44.24 | Lunessa | "With you Pumba, everything's gas." |
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| 18:45.54 | ScytheBlade1 | Where is the Blizzcon audio (or video) stream at? |
| 18:46.03 | ScytheBlade1 | Supposedly they're dropping the flying epic price to 2000g |
| 18:46.16 | Lopeppeppy | That's going to matter in 2 years, sure. |
| 18:46.26 | TS|Skrom | lol |
| 18:46.32 | zenzelezz | the epic one you mean? |
| 18:46.35 | TS|Skrom | so what's the next mount type? swimming? |
| 18:46.40 | ScytheBlade1 | Not announced |
| 18:46.48 | ScytheBlade1 | I really think they're just dropping the price |
| 18:46.49 | TS|Skrom | burrowing! |
| 18:46.56 | ScytheBlade1 | lol. |
| 18:47.00 | ScytheBlade1 | I'd hurt myself. |
| 18:47.46 | Lunessa | ... dropping the price? There will be howls. |
| 18:47.56 | ScytheBlade1 | Of joy. |
| 18:48.19 | Kaso | Is there gonna be flying mount capable in northrend? |
| 18:48.22 | Kaso | thats the big question to me |
| 18:48.27 | zenzelezz | I could actually afford epic flying skill cost the other day |
| 18:48.38 | Kaso | cos flying mounts really do make quests so easy, they'd have to design around that |
| 18:48.49 | zenzelezz | got me thinking how cheap I am to have saved that much |
| 18:49.23 | zenzelezz | so I gave the guy that's unbeknownst to him mentored me in raiding 2/3s of it |
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| 18:50.30 | Lunessa | ... just give me the cash. |
| 18:50.50 | zenzelezz | you have to earn it :-p |
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| 18:50.56 | zenzelezz | and be on the right server |
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| 18:52.34 | ScytheBlade1 | Ha, there is a live video stream |
| 18:52.45 | ScytheBlade1 | ... showing the War3 Ladder final |
| 18:53.03 | Kyahx | that's boring, I want to see the Q&A panels :( |
| 18:53.28 | TS|Skrom | hrm... anyone have a copy of FuBar - ExampleFu or know of another tutorial type setup for FuBar |
| 18:53.43 | Lunessa | zenzelezz: I don't roll like that. |
| 18:54.12 | zenzelezz | then no gold for you :-) |
| 18:54.40 | Industrial | google wow gold lulz |
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| 18:55.35 | ScytheBlade1 | Wow, this plugin to watch the stream is retarded |
| 18:55.56 | ScytheBlade1 | It runs a MMS server on a TCP port, and then points your browser at mms://127.0.0.1:xxxx/stream/crap/here/ |
| 18:56.11 | Industrial | mms? |
| 18:56.17 | ScytheBlade1 | Think streaming wmv |
| 18:56.39 | Industrial | one thing flash i good for. |
| 18:57.09 | Industrial | eliminating video format hell |
| 18:57.24 | ScytheBlade1 | The irony. |
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| 18:57.36 | ScytheBlade1 | I'm on an OS/arch that can't do flash, but can do every codec under the sun. |
| 18:57.49 | Industrial | lol 64bit? |
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| 18:58.00 | ScytheBlade1 | amd64 linux |
| 18:58.05 | Industrial | me too |
| 18:58.49 | ScytheBlade1 | I wonder if that port is open on more than just 127.0.0.1 |
| 18:59.00 | ScytheBlade1 | If it is, I might use mplayer to capture the stream |
| 18:59.16 | Mr_Rabies2 | i hope someone captured the opening ceremony stream :[ |
| 18:59.17 | Kyahx | dosent it use mplayer by default? |
| 18:59.33 | ScytheBlade1 | I'm hosting the "plugin" on my windows box |
| 18:59.57 | Industrial | "runon" |
| 18:59.57 | TS|Skrom | Barring finding examplefu what's a really simple fubar plugin that I could possibly learn from? is ammoFu especially complicated I wonder? |
| 19:00.56 | ScytheBlade1 | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=712445680&sid=1&pageNo=7#124 <-- initial Death Knight responses |
| 19:01.55 | Kemayo | TS|Skrom: Yeah, something like AmmoFu or MoneyFu is a decent starting point. |
| 19:02.22 | sysrage | so i was playing battlefield 2 last night for the first time in a long time.. did they really make it as friggin lame as it seems? any map that has a jet or a copter was pure air warfare. nobody was on the ground at all. sorry for being OT but i think there's a lot of BF2 players here |
| 19:02.58 | Industrial | is it free?illplay it. |
| 19:03.01 | Kyahx | I've never played BF2 |
| 19:03.07 | ScytheBlade1 | I played it a bit |
| 19:03.18 | ScytheBlade1 | Not enough to qualify an opinion though |
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| 19:04.40 | sysrage | it's not free. it used to rock. but either i just completely suck now or they nerfed something to make copters and jets OP |
| 19:05.27 | Industrial | does it work with a key and an aonline account and all that before you can play? |
| 19:05.51 | sysrage | you need a key.. and a gamespy ID.. the ID is free |
| 19:06.16 | zenzelezz | you said the G word :-( |
| 19:06.45 | Lunessa | gamespy is da debil |
| 19:07.01 | Lunessa | because they really do SPY. |
| 19:07.23 | Industrial | *torrent* |
| 19:07.39 | Industrial | im out of games |
| 19:07.48 | Industrial | single player time spending games |
| 19:07.57 | Industrial | well, cept for stepmania but doing that all day.. |
| 19:08.48 | zenzelezz | mah jong |
| 19:11.56 | ScytheBlade1 | Hmm. A full 50 minutes before the stream goes live again. |
| 19:14.02 | Mr_Rabies2 | i'm fidgeting |
| 19:14.06 | Mr_Rabies2 | i want to play a death knight |
| 19:14.07 | Mr_Rabies2 | :[ |
| 19:14.14 | ScytheBlade1 | Hmm |
| 19:14.18 | ScytheBlade1 | A full hour of SC2 |
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| 19:14.24 | ScytheBlade1 | I just may leave and come back then |
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| 19:18.16 | Mr_Rabies2 | i wonder if the lore for death knights will end up being that when kel'thuzad was "destroyed" the lich king lost command over a small number of death knights that gained their own wil again |
| 19:18.19 | Mr_Rabies2 | will* |
| 19:18.34 | Mr_Rabies2 | but are they really under the -will- of the lich king? hrm... |
| 19:18.51 | Mr_Rabies2 | i seem to remember reading they joined him voluntarily and were allowed to remain human |
| 19:18.59 | Antiarc|Work | http://media.worldofwarcraft.com/wrath/movies/wrath-trailer/wrath_of_the_lich_king_en.html |
| 19:19.01 | zenzelezz | so we'd actually get to play the death knights from Naxxramas? Would be cool |
| 19:19.02 | ScytheBlade1 | Yup |
| 19:19.07 | ScytheBlade1 | Arthas is still human |
| 19:19.10 | ScytheBlade1 | Or what's left of him anyways |
| 19:19.19 | End | the whole thing sounds really really silly |
| 19:19.24 | ScytheBlade1 | Technically he merged with the entity in the Frozen Throne and became one |
| 19:19.30 | ScytheBlade1 | At the end of War3x, that is |
| 19:19.31 | End | I'm curious how the lore will work out though |
| 19:19.45 | End | if they can make it somewhat believable, I'll still be interested |
| 19:19.56 | ScytheBlade1 | I'm thinking just like how Horde have Paladins |
| 19:19.56 | End | I don't like their concept of a "hero class" though |
| 19:20.05 | ScytheBlade1 | They're going to capture a Lich and hold it hostage in the SW basements |
| 19:20.22 | ScytheBlade1 | "We have DeathKnightslol" |
| 19:20.31 | End | Humans might do that. |
| 19:20.44 | ScytheBlade1 | HOLY CRAP LEEROY JENKINS IS ON THE LIVE STREAM AT BLIZZCON |
| 19:20.49 | End | They can be as silly as Blood Elves what it comes to that sort of thing... |
| 19:21.00 | End | (I mean, look at the Scarlet Crusade) |
| 19:21.03 | Mr_Rabies2 | The Lich King offered them untold power in exchange for their services and loyalty. The weary, vengeful warriors accepted his dark pact, and although they retained their humanity, their twisted souls were bound to his evil will for all time. Bestowed with black runeblades and shadowy undead steeds, death knights serve as the Scourge's mightiest generals. |
| 19:21.25 | End | Here's something that confuses me though. |
| 19:21.28 | Mr_Rabies2 | so perhaps |
| 19:21.32 | End | Why the fuck are the alliance allowing the back? |
| 19:21.46 | Mr_Rabies2 | we'll know in due time |
| 19:21.50 | Mr_Rabies2 | metzen's a lore genius |
| 19:21.54 | End | That kind of betrayal is hard to forgive. |
| 19:22.00 | End | hah, hardly |
| 19:22.07 | End | he writes the lore yes |
| 19:22.30 | End | but there's too many inconsistancies over the warcraft history... |
| 19:22.57 | zenzelezz | such as? (I'm lore noob) |
| 19:23.01 | Mr_Rabies2 | most of the inconsistancies are just retcon to continue the story |
| 19:23.19 | Mr_Rabies2 | it's HOW you retcon that matters |
| 19:23.27 | Mr_Rabies2 | metzen does a great job in making the new lore believable |
| 19:23.35 | ScytheBlade1 | http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/wrath/ |
| 19:24.00 | ScytheBlade1 | Three pages of lore |
| 19:24.23 | Mr_Rabies2 | are those tuskarr statues |
| 19:24.30 | Mr_Rabies2 | parodying easter island |
| 19:25.38 | End | anyways, the lore -could- turn out alright |
| 19:25.48 | End | although, I still don't like their concept of a hero class |
| 19:27.19 | ScytheBlade1 | http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/wrath/images/screenshots/ss10-hires.jpg 0o |
| 19:27.22 | End | (a while back one of the CMs mentioned that hero classes were on the shelf because people have loaded too much expectation on the concept of a "hero class"...that seems to be my problem here...) |
| 19:28.35 | Mr_Rabies2 | http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/wrath/images/artwork/ss6.jpg |
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| 19:30.46 | Mr_Rabies2 | http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/wrath/images/screenshots/ss9-hires.jpg |
| 19:30.48 | Mr_Rabies2 | /gasp |
| 19:31.50 | Mr_Rabies2 | i'm getting an awesome viking vibe from these mutant human guys |
| 19:32.03 | Lunessa | Damn it. Damn it all to hell. That video sold me. |
| 19:32.12 | ScytheBlade1 | lol |
| 19:32.24 | Mr_Rabies2 | http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/wrath/images/screenshots/ss2-hires.jpg |
| 19:32.27 | Mr_Rabies2 | is that a dragon head? |
| 19:32.33 | ScytheBlade1 | Time to download and watch on XBMC |
| 19:32.38 | Mr_Rabies2 | the picture of the viking guys says "black dragon logo" |
| 19:32.44 | Mr_Rabies2 | Deathwing? |
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| 19:33.31 | Mr_Rabies2 | http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/wrath/images/screenshots/ss11-hires.jpg |
| 19:33.33 | Mr_Rabies2 | @_@ |
| 19:37.45 | Mr_Rabies2 | i think i like all this conjecture and hype more than the actual game though |
| 19:37.47 | Mr_Rabies2 | :D |
| 19:39.02 | Kaso | I wonder if wowi is gonna have beta keys again? |
| 19:40.48 | zenzelezz | why learn it Lopeppeppy? Most authors don't :-) |
| 19:41.24 | Lopeppeppy | I know. Me and my high personal standards, jeez. |
| 19:41.35 | Mr_Rabies2 | damn, that video sent chills up my spine |
| 19:41.56 | Mr_Rabies2 | the Arthas/Lich King dual voice thing was awesome too |
| 19:42.18 | Mr_Rabies2 | i'm getting a really big viking feel out of this new race of humans |
| 19:42.40 | Mr_Rabies2 | vikings, possibly deathwing, and the lich king, all working together? |
| 19:42.42 | Mr_Rabies2 | we're fucked |
| 19:43.23 | Lunessa | ... And not in the good way., |
| 19:43.45 | zenzelezz | they're all good when you learn the tricks |
| 19:43.46 | Lunessa | But, the graphics look good, and lots more undead to kill. |
| 19:45.17 | End | The actual content, excluding the whole DK part, looks really good to me. |
| 19:45.30 | End | If they manage to explain DK in fine, I'll be happy |
| 19:45.47 | End | (but they haven't really yet, thus my whinging) |
| 19:46.05 | Lopeppeppy | DK? Maybe I haven't gotten through enough yet, but whuzzat? |
| 19:46.09 | End | Deathknight |
| 19:46.33 | End | a) The hero class bit seems lame to me. b) Alliance wouldn' |
| 19:46.39 | End | wouldn't exactly be accepting |
| 19:46.49 | End | scarlet crusade might accept them, they are pretty fanatical |
| 19:47.12 | zenzelezz | desperate times, desperate measures |
| 19:47.14 | End | imo, the scarlet crusade would do anything, even forsake the light, to fight the scourage |
| 19:48.20 | End | and I think Thrall would attempt to forbid any horde involvement with deathknights, but sylvanus would do it anyway, and Thrall would look the other way |
| 19:48.30 | Lunessa | One of the mages in my guild posted this last night - http://www.theroundtableguild.com/Forums/tabid/1048/forumid/26/threadid/966/scope/posts/Default.aspx |
| 19:48.47 | TS|Skrom | Have they actually defined what a "hero class" is yet? |
| 19:49.22 | zenzelezz | lol Lunessa |
| 19:49.33 | End | Lunessa: haha |
| 19:49.41 | End | TS|Skrom: not much...mostly that they don't start at level 1 |
| 19:49.45 | Lunessa | I especially liked her take on Shaman |
| 19:50.18 | End | (although, one of the things I LIKE doing is starting at level 1, even if the old world is a bit...empty in a few places) |
| 19:52.20 | ScytheBlade1 | "World of Warcraft" to start in 10 minutes, probably just general discussion |
| 19:53.20 | ScytheBlade1 | The live stream is actually working atm, but no idea if it still will be in 10 minutes |
| 19:55.13 | Matrix110 | in 10mins its WC3 finals not the wow panel |
| 19:55.45 | ScytheBlade1 | They're going on at the same time |
| 19:55.47 | ScytheBlade1 | Hmm |
| 19:56.41 | ScytheBlade1 | I have to wonder which they'll show |
| 19:56.45 | Matrix110 | WC3 |
| 19:56.55 | Matrix110 | if you watch the stream you can even read it... |
| 19:57.06 | ScytheBlade1 | Doesn't mean that's what they're going to show next though |
| 19:57.15 | Matrix110 | and Giga2 is eSports channel they show all WC3 games |
| 19:57.20 | ScytheBlade1 | Ah |
| 20:05.39 | ScytheBlade1 | Yup |
| 20:05.46 | ScytheBlade1 | Hmm |
| 20:05.53 | ScytheBlade1 | lol |
| 20:05.55 | ScytheBlade1 | This is sad |
| 20:06.43 | ScytheBlade1 | Ha, they're showing the main stage |
| 20:07.06 | Matrix110 | lol |
| 20:07.17 | Matrix110 | showing WoW panel now |
| 20:07.22 | Matrix110 | because WC3 PC is fucked^^ |
| 20:07.25 | ScytheBlade1 | lol |
| 20:07.35 | ScytheBlade1 | "We put daily quests in to screw over chinese gold farmers, and it's working so far" |
| 20:07.36 | ScytheBlade1 | Win. |
| 20:09.06 | Antiarc|Work | Where's that stream? |
| 20:09.28 | ScytheBlade1 | It's linked on blizzcon.com |
| 20:09.41 | ScytheBlade1 | More zones than Outland! |
| 20:10.06 | zenzelezz | sweet |
| 20:10.18 | Antiarc|Work | The giga one? |
| 20:10.20 | ScytheBlade1 | Yeah |
| 20:10.24 | Antiarc|Work | That just shows the "next match in 2 hours" thing for me |
| 20:10.32 | Matrix110 | its working here |
| 20:10.39 | ScytheBlade1 | Working here too |
| 20:11.17 | Matrix110 | rofl |
| 20:11.23 | ScytheBlade1 | A hahaha |
| 20:11.25 | ScytheBlade1 | Warlock ftl |
| 20:11.25 | Matrix110 | "is he overpowered like the warlock" |
| 20:11.31 | ScytheBlade1 | Yeah |
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| 20:11.49 | ScytheBlade1 | I'm so dropping Tailoring |
| 20:11.54 | ScytheBlade1 | HELLO INSCRIPTION |
| 20:12.02 | Matrix110 | lol |
| 20:12.06 | Matrix110 | Fireball with knockback |
| 20:12.06 | ScytheBlade1 | <-- mage |
| 20:12.08 | Matrix110 | rofl |
| 20:12.13 | Matrix110 | i so drop tailoring aswell :P |
| 20:13.08 | ScytheBlade1 | lol @ "epic barber shops" |
| 20:13.53 | ScytheBlade1 | And 11 zones |
| 20:13.58 | Matrix110 | 11 zones ye |
| 20:14.38 | Josh_Borke | ScytheBlade1: qft |
| 20:14.47 | Matrix110 | 2 introduction zones |
| 20:14.50 | Matrix110 | nice |
| 20:18.13 | Rallion | i want mind flay with knockback. |
| 20:18.21 | Rallion | rogues can stunlock me, it only seems fair. |
| 20:20.08 | ScytheBlade1 | I know that I'd go weak though, and inscribe base damage increase |
| 20:20.22 | ScytheBlade1 | YES A GNOME TOWN |
| 20:20.39 | zenzelezz | with leper gnomes? |
| 20:20.50 | Kaso | I wish the trailer had bubble-heart when the paladin was surrounded |
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| 20:22.52 | krka_ | the expansion site is ridiculously slow |
| 20:23.09 | zenzelezz | probably no people visiting it ;) |
| 20:23.11 | ScytheBlade1 | blizzard.com and all related sites are stupidly slow |
| 20:23.55 | Matrix110 | thousands of people hammering:P |
| 20:24.35 | Mr_Rabies2 | hrm |
| 20:24.40 | Mr_Rabies2 | furbolg and tuskarr |
| 20:24.46 | Mr_Rabies2 | new playable races you think? |
| 20:25.09 | ScytheBlade1 | They said there would not be any new playable races |
| 20:25.15 | Mr_Rabies2 | did they? |
| 20:25.20 | zenzelezz | I'm still waiting for them to let me play a drakonid, for the looks |
| 20:25.34 | Mr_Rabies2 | drakonids have the funniest animations |
| 20:25.39 | Mr_Rabies2 | they look like they're rowing a boat |
| 20:27.14 | Mr_Rabies2 | speaking of boats |
| 20:27.24 | Mr_Rabies2 | i wonder if they'll have player usable boats :D |
| 20:27.31 | ScytheBlade1 | .. |
| 20:27.32 | ScytheBlade1 | @ Dalaran |
| 20:27.32 | Mr_Rabies2 | OH SNAP |
| 20:27.33 | zenzelezz | I hope not |
| 20:27.34 | Mr_Rabies2 | DALARAN |
| 20:27.36 | End | whoa dalaran |
| 20:27.46 | Mr_Rabies2 | well, zenz, the viking dudes have big spearguns |
| 20:27.48 | End | huh? home city for notherend? |
| 20:27.54 | zenzelezz | I still have bad memories about Wake Island and the other sea maps on Battlefield 1942 |
| 20:27.54 | ScytheBlade1 | ....... |
| 20:27.56 | End | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:28.14 | Mr_Rabies2 | the |
| 20:28.15 | zenzelezz | "WHO grounded the carrier!?" |
| 20:28.21 | Mr_Rabies2 | kirin tor moved dalaran |
| 20:28.25 | Mr_Rabies2 | to northrend |
| 20:28.26 | Mr_Rabies2 | @_@ |
| 20:28.26 | End | wtf? |
| 20:28.35 | ScytheBlade1 | FLYING CITY. |
| 20:28.36 | End | -moving- it? |
| 20:28.36 | ScytheBlade1 | FTW. |
| 20:28.40 | Rallion | so |
| 20:28.41 | Rallion | basically |
| 20:28.41 | End | I'm so confused |
| 20:28.46 | ScytheBlade1 | They moved it from the "old" world |
| 20:28.48 | Rallion | the kirin tor are morons. |
| 20:28.49 | ScytheBlade1 | To Northrend. |
| 20:28.51 | ScytheBlade1 | And made it fly. |
| 20:29.05 | End | that's just.... |
| 20:29.06 | End | ... |
| 20:29.08 | End | wtf? |
| 20:29.17 | Rallion | really, though, Kirin Tor has ALWAYS been made of morons, if you read all the lore, they mess up cooooonstantly |
| 20:29.18 | pastamancer | I sure hope the live stream is being archived since I can't watch right now |
| 20:29.27 | Rallion | same, pasta |
| 20:29.35 | ScytheBlade1 | "we're going to have ways to stomp those Gnome death knights" |
| 20:29.45 | End | I'd be surprised if someone wasn't at least saving a local copy |
| 20:29.49 | ScytheBlade1 | GNOMISH DEATH KNIGHTS CONFIRMED. |
| 20:31.26 | End | it just occured to me that wotlk has two things so far blizzard said at one point or another that they had given up on |
| 20:31.37 | End | namely, siege weapons and "hero" classes |
| 20:31.58 | zenzelezz | saying it's been given up is a decent way to stop a lot of people (but not all) from asking for it |
| 20:32.05 | End | yeah, that's true |
| 20:32.41 | ScytheBlade1 | And info on the Death Knights. |
| 20:32.46 | End | ah, tanking and dps |
| 20:33.02 | End | o_O |
| 20:33.11 | End | can't even use shields though |
| 20:33.33 | zenzelezz | eh, no shields? |
| 20:33.38 | End | no shields |
| 20:33.41 | pastamancer | only 2h? |
| 20:33.45 | End | they tank with a two hander or dual weild |
| 20:33.50 | zenzelezz | peculiar |
| 20:33.57 | ScytheBlade1 | FAIL |
| 20:34.06 | pastamancer | I've healed a few dw fury "tanks" but only in 5-mans |
| 20:34.17 | ScytheBlade1 | DIE WAR3 DIE |
| 20:34.24 | zenzelezz | I'm not sure I get the DK thing, are they a completely new class or just a specialized version of your old class? |
| 20:34.28 | Lunessa | OT but Interesting: http://blog.wired.com/27bstroke6/2007/08/senate-committe.html |
| 20:34.29 | ScytheBlade1 | Hero Class |
| 20:34.39 | End | new class |
| 20:34.41 | ScytheBlade1 | Would have told us more, but they just switched to the War3 competition |
| 20:34.42 | End | but doesn't start at level 1 |
| 20:34.45 | End | that's all we know |
| 20:34.55 | zenzelezz | so it's completely separate from your old char? |
| 20:35.05 | End | it sounds like it |
| 20:35.05 | ScytheBlade1 | It's a "Hero Class" and that's all we know |
| 20:35.08 | ScytheBlade1 | That and it tanks/DPSs |
| 20:35.11 | zenzelezz | how boring |
| 20:35.20 | zenzelezz | I've spent eons making this char, don't want a new one |
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| 20:35.59 | End | I'm curious if dk are gonna be after +spell damage gear too |
| 20:36.18 | End | if so, paladins have some competition :P |
| 20:36.25 | ScytheBlade1 | Indeec |
| 20:36.28 | ScytheBlade1 | s/c/d/ |
| 20:38.36 | End | let me know when they get back to not war3 stuff |
| 20:40.54 | TS|Skrom | Help me out here... using Ace, :RegisterEvent("event",method) when the method is called, how are the event variables passed? |
| 20:41.34 | Josh_Borke | arg1, arg2, arg3 |
| 20:41.48 | Josh_Borke | and you mean :RegisterEvent("event", "method") right? |
| 20:42.02 | TS|Skrom | so in function MyAddon:Method() I can just call em as I need em? (and yes that's what I meant) |
| 20:42.06 | Josh_Borke | anyway, Ace strips off the frame and event from the event function and just passes the variables |
| 20:42.16 | TS|Skrom | ahha! |
| 20:42.26 | Josh_Borke | don't do it at MyAddon:Method() do it as MyAddon:Method(arg1, arg2, arg3) |
| 20:42.47 | TS|Skrom | okay so I do need to declare em to use em, but it skips frame and event |
| 20:42.49 | TS|Skrom | thanks |
| 20:43.01 | Josh_Borke | you SHOULD declare them, but you don't have to |
| 20:43.12 | End | yeah, I believe the globals still exist |
| 20:43.16 | End | as set up by WoW |
| 20:43.17 | TS|Skrom | I've been trying to find that answer in the AceEvent-2.0 docs for about 30 mins now XD |
| 20:43.24 | End | locals are faster though |
| 20:43.27 | TS|Skrom | right but it's more readable if you do declare |
| 20:43.36 | TS|Skrom | using arg1,arg2 is bad form at least that's what I always though |
| 20:43.50 | TS|Skrom | s/though/thought |
| 20:43.53 | Josh_Borke | no |
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| 20:45.36 | Mr_Rabies2 | apparently tuskarr are communist |
| 20:45.39 | Mr_Rabies2 | or socialist |
| 20:45.53 | zenzelezz | free repairs? |
| 20:45.56 | Mr_Rabies2 | Tuskarr laws are simple. No tuskarr may avoid helping tend to the needs of the settlement -- gathering food, making clothing and housing, patrolling in defense, and so on. The sea is communal property for fishing and whaling. Catches are divided among the community as feasible, with those who miss out on one catch getting first choice the next time. Tuskarr do have personal property, but possession is conditioned by ac |
| 20:48.02 | pastamancer | sweet |
| 20:48.11 | pastamancer | wow needed more socialism |
| 20:48.40 | Josh_Borke | TS|Skrom: what's considered bad form is leaving them defined as arg1, arg2, arg3 etc. if you know what the variables represent then name them such |
| 20:48.45 | TS|Skrom | is AceDB strictly for saved varialbes? no real benefit to use it for other tables? |
| 20:49.14 | pastamancer | I can't think of a reason to use it for anything other than saved variables |
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| 20:49.49 | Josh_Borke | i can't either |
| 20:50.07 | pastamancer | I'm not even sure if you can |
| 20:51.20 | Kyahx | Well, im sure you could pass it an empty non-SV table, but there would be no point |
| 20:52.13 | Kyahx | Why would you want profile settings for volatile data? |
| 20:52.58 | Mr_Rabies2 | dear god |
| 20:53.03 | Mr_Rabies2 | this giga stream is awkward |
| 20:53.09 | pastamancer | haha |
| 20:53.34 | pastamancer | it's much more entertaining to watch the hosts fumble than a wc3 match |
| 20:59.00 | Rallion | i think i'm going to make a new and better-made version of SVEdit....one that's less of a hack, so that something like, oh, I don't know, comments in the lua files don't completely break it |
| 20:59.39 | Rallion | just...as a theoretical example there. |
| 20:59.58 | ScytheBlade1 | 1:34pm: Death Knight is a hero class-- can't roll as a level one character, wanted to make it more epic (no level one Death Knights). Character class with two distinguishing elements-- have to unlock the ability to play one. Don't have to be a raider. Quest chain at level 80, like the Warlock epic mount quest, to unlock Character class. Story elements-- explain interaction with Arthas. Second element: Once you've unlocked it, you start o |
| 20:59.59 | ScytheBlade1 | ff at a relatively high level (55, 60, 70-- not sure yet), with preexisting set of spells and abilities. |
| 21:00.42 | ScytheBlade1 | http://www.wowinsider.com/2007/08/03/liveblogging-the-blizzcon-expansion-demo-panel/ |
| 21:00.56 | Rallion | there are going to be so many of those. |
| 21:00.59 | Rallion | SO MANY. |
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| 21:02.57 | zenzelezz | I must say I'm surprisingly disinterested in the DKs right now, I was hoping it'd just be some sort of uber-upgrade to your char |
| 21:03.12 | ScytheBlade1 | It sounds like it |
| 21:03.25 | Rallion | it's not, though, it's a whole completely other char |
| 21:04.05 | krka_ | you dont convert your char? |
| 21:04.07 | zenzelezz | that's how I interpreted it now, and that made me lose most of my interest for them :-| |
| 21:04.07 | krka_ | you make a new? |
| 21:04.12 | ScytheBlade1 | No |
| 21:04.16 | ScytheBlade1 | It's a quest at level 80 |
| 21:04.19 | ScytheBlade1 | Not a raid quest at that |
| 21:04.34 | ScytheBlade1 | Read what I pasted, a few lines up |
| 21:04.53 | TS|Skrom | gee I hope they plan to increase the per server character slots... I'm full >< |
| 21:05.14 | ScytheBlade1 | 1:54pm: For hero classes in the future, will we have to pick one or play all of them, and new character slots? No character slot additions now. Crowd boos-- "point noted." |
| 21:05.15 | zenzelezz | I would expect the DK to not count toward the limit if it's a copy |
| 21:05.26 | Rallion | it's not a copy... |
| 21:05.49 | zenzelezz | whatever you choose to call it |
| 21:06.00 | zenzelezz | a character obtained through a quest shouldn't in my opinion count towards your limit |
| 21:06.11 | Rallion | i can see the logic there |
| 21:06.22 | Rallion | but it depends on the point of view |
| 21:06.32 | zenzelezz | yup |
| 21:06.36 | Rallion | it's not something you earn like an item, it's something you unlock |
| 21:06.53 | Rallion | I even read that they may make it a cross-server unlocking |
| 21:07.00 | TS|Skrom | they should add one slot per hero class they release that can only be used for hero classes |
| 21:07.03 | ScytheBlade1 | :58pm: What races for DK? Our current plan is for all of them to be available. ("Gnome Death Knights ftw" from the audience) |
| 21:07.06 | ScytheBlade1 | <-- GNOME mage. |
| 21:07.08 | ScytheBlade1 | F T W. |
| 21:07.08 | Rallion | do the quest on Server A, make a DK on Server B |
| 21:07.08 | zenzelezz | so you only unlock it one time, not once per server? |
| 21:07.20 | Rallion | I read it's undecided |
| 21:07.27 | End | I'm already low on slots |
| 21:07.35 | Rallion | i think that's a bad idea myself, I think it should be per server |
| 21:07.56 | Rallion | i can probably ditch my bank chars given time |
| 21:08.10 | End | And every race gets deathknights? wtf? |
| 21:08.22 | bleeter | meh, Wrath of the Lich King. Betya Engineering willl still kind suck. |
| 21:08.33 | End | night elf and tauren deathknights don't make an ounce of sense |
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| 21:08.57 | Rallion | sure it does, even they're susceptible to the lich king's power! |
| 21:09.32 | End | if that's the case, then they aren't alliance or horde |
| 21:09.43 | End | or the lich king already won |
| 21:09.51 | Rallion | that would actually be pretty cool if you ask me |
| 21:10.19 | Rallion | a faction-neutral class |
| 21:10.19 | Rallion | kill everybody. |
| 21:10.37 | End | that doesn't fit normal WoW gameplay at all |
| 21:10.50 | Rallion | no, i don't expect them to get that crazy with it |
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| 21:14.01 | Mr_Rabies2 | is alchemy still good money? |
| 21:14.24 | Mr_Rabies2 | i'm almost tempted to just drop enchanting and pick up alchemy |
| 21:14.33 | Mr_Rabies2 | enchanting costs me more money than i make :/ |
| 21:15.32 | Rallion | at what akill level? |
| 21:15.46 | Rallion | 375? |
| 21:16.30 | Kaso | alch to make money? bad idea |
| 21:16.38 | bleeter | lots of gold on my realm from running lvl 30-50 instances and DEing stuff and putting the result on the AH. |
| 21:16.44 | ScytheBlade1 | Kaso, why is that a bad idea? |
| 21:17.10 | zenzelezz | I'm finally only two points away from 375 blacksmithing... I'm too cheap to buy eternium to level it, so it's going sloooowly |
| 21:17.19 | bleeter | that's to say, a distinct lack of reasonably priced mid-range ench mats out there ;) |
| 21:17.42 | Kaso | if you want to make money just do gathering |
| 21:19.32 | Rallion | eternal essences are crazy expensive on my server |
| 21:19.33 | Rallion | heh |
| 21:20.14 | zenzelezz | Large Brilliant Shards are more expensive than ever on my server... can hardly wait for 2.2 |
| 21:20.36 | Matrix110 | farm them fast? |
| 21:20.44 | zenzelezz | I'm not an enchanter |
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| 21:21.07 | zenzelezz | getting BoEs that DE to LBS isn't the easiest thing to do in my experience |
| 21:21.23 | Rallion | no, it's not |
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| 21:27.00 | zenzelezz | "[2. Trade] [...]: Oh mon amour, your eyes are like a [Star of Elune], your loved one will smelt like ice in the sun, in ah now (the star, not your loved one)" |
| 21:30.08 | TS|Skrom | In tablet |
| 21:30.15 | TS|Skrom | do you ever have to manually clear the lines? |
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| 21:39.01 | bleeter | I see blizz are advertising for a WoW UI designer |
| 21:39.20 | bleeter | http://www.blizzard.com/jobopp/software-engineer-user-interface.shtml |
| 21:39.32 | Shirik | they have been for a while actually |
| 21:40.02 | bleeter | hadn't looked at that page for a month or more. they don't employ people from overseas, so it's all a bit moot to me ;) |
| 21:40.48 | Shirik | they don't employ pretty much anyone unless you're in or willing to move to cali anyway |
| 21:41.16 | Shirik | o.o |
| 21:41.18 | Shirik | someone said hi to me in #lua |
| 21:41.29 | Shirik | someone non-wow related knows me! :D |
| 21:41.44 | Lunessa | You're e-famous? |
| 21:41.45 | Shirik | or he was being nice |
| 21:42.56 | leethal | Shirik: they said hi to me too |
| 21:42.58 | zenzelezz | maybe he confused you with someone important |
| 21:42.59 | zenzelezz | =D |
| 21:43.06 | leethal | Shirik: never talked in the room, just been idling there |
| 21:43.11 | leethal | Shirik: SO UR NOT SPECIAL LOL |
| 21:43.15 | Shirik | yes I am :( |
| 21:43.31 | leethal | yes you are =) |
| 21:43.44 | leethal | you're credited in the comments of pretty much all my addons =P |
| 21:43.50 | Shirik | lol |
| 21:44.21 | Shirik | Okay, I have this idea: RDX has a play button that basically starts the encounter. It broadcasts a message to all raid members starting the timer, etc. |
| 21:44.38 | bleeter | I mean, it's not as if when your a US company and you want to employ Aussies you have to worry about all that greencard crap |
| 21:45.28 | Shirik | In Conspiracy, I'm considering having a full handshake: First the encounter start message is sent, everyone ACKs. Then, the person sent the message responds to each ACK saying how long it took to receive the ACK. Then, each client can |
| 21:45.28 | Shirik | divide that by two and adjust the time accordingly |
| 21:45.47 | Shirik | worth it? |
| 21:45.51 | Shirik | Or just skip it? |
| 21:46.32 | TS|Skrom | Aww Lope left :( |
| 21:46.48 | Lunessa | Sounds like a lot of overhead Shirik, and latency isn't a constant. |
| 21:47.05 | Shirik | yeah the fact that it's not constant is what worried me most |
| 21:47.19 | TS|Skrom | deltron ping |
| 21:47.48 | Shirik | Thing is, I want to have a way to ensure all recordings are as synchronized as possible |
| 21:48.00 | Shirik | that way when two clients share data, they don't duplicate data |
| 21:48.17 | Lunessa | Factors will change the variable (tau) - simultaneity's a myth. |
| 21:48.26 | Shirik | I dunno, I'm thinking way too far ahead right now. Should do the root stuff first |
| 21:49.14 | TS|Skrom | http://www.thelightwarriors.net/TankTattlerFu.zip |
| 21:49.22 | TS|Skrom | someone load that up for me and tell me if it even shows up XD |
| 21:49.38 | TS|Skrom | I won't get to a PC with WoW on it til like 3am tonight prolly and I'm itchin' to know XD |
| 21:49.47 | Shirik | simultaneity? |
| 21:50.05 | Lunessa | brb, chatzilla is eating context menus - No two events ever occur at the same time. |
| 21:50.07 | Shirik | nice word |
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| 21:50.17 | Shirik | I know what you mean :P |
| 21:50.19 | Lunessa | brb |
| 21:50.26 | Shirik | it just doesn't seem like a real word |
| 21:51.08 | zenzelezz | damnit, I shouldn't watch Archimonde/Illidan videos... they look like real fun encounters, and we're still just wiping on Morogrim :-| |
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| 21:51.32 | Lunessa | That's better. |
| 21:52.06 | Shirik | ~dict simultaenity |
| 21:52.22 | Shirik | ~dict simultaneity |
| 21:52.37 | Shirik | huh |
| 21:52.42 | Shirik | Strangely spelled word |
| 21:52.54 | Lunessa | English is full of them. |
| 21:53.07 | Shirik | so much for "i before e" |
| 21:53.38 | zenzelezz | I'd pay serious money for a demon form like that of Illidan's dark form on my warrior :-| |
| 21:54.57 | leethal | someone should write an alternative to lossendil.com |
| 21:54.59 | ScytheBlade1 | pmg |
| 21:55.06 | Lunessa | I would like to announce that whoever entered 'pst' into the vernacular should rot in the coldest depths of hell. |
| 21:55.07 | ScytheBlade1 | Live stream - they're going into detail about every class |
| 21:55.18 | ScytheBlade1 | Druids first - and the crowd cheers |
| 21:57.01 | Shirik | wouldn't the coldest depth of hell be like luke-warm? |
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| 21:57.36 | Lunessa | Depends on who you believe about hell. |
| 21:57.59 | Lunessa | And is hell indo- or exothermic? |
| 21:58.10 | Shirik | didn't know it existed outside of the catholic church |
| 21:58.19 | Shirik | but I don't care enough to follow religion |
| 21:58.25 | Shirik | exothermic imho :P |
| 21:58.35 | Shirik | it just has an infinite supply of energy |
| 21:58.57 | Lunessa | Most religions have something like Hell. Judaism, various flavros of Christianity, Islam, etc. |
| 21:59.27 | Kaso | A MILLION TIMES |
| 21:59.28 | Lunessa | And to quote my favorite movie, "Chinese have a lot of hells, Jack." |
| 21:59.30 | Shirik | isn't Judaism catholic? |
| 21:59.39 | Shirik | just not christian |
| 22:00.14 | Shirik | oh well |
| 22:00.20 | Shirik | like I said, I don't care enough about religion |
| 22:00.46 | ScytheBlade1 | lol |
| 22:00.57 | ScytheBlade1 | "The paladin has three distinct roles - a tank, a DPS, and a healer" |
| 22:00.58 | Lunessa | :chuckle: |
| 22:01.00 | Shirik | people that make a big deal out of it ("zomg our coins say 'in god we trust' sue sue!") are morons |
| 22:01.05 | ScytheBlade1 | At the mention of DPS, the crowd died of laughter |
| 22:01.08 | Shirik | of course that's just an opinion |
| 22:01.37 | Lunessa | Ok, work day OVER. I'm out. |
| 22:01.47 | Shirik | yey |
| 22:01.51 | Kaso | Wiley taught himself to drive after losing both arms and a leg in an electrical accident when he was 13. He has already spent more than three years in prison for habitually driving without a license, kicking a state trooper and other charges. |
| 22:01.52 | Lunessa | See ya! |
| 22:02.10 | Shirik | Kaso: That's awesome |
| 22:02.25 | Kaso | i cant imagen how he would have pulled that off. |
| 22:02.27 | ScytheBlade1 | A haha |
| 22:02.32 | Kaso | or perhaped "pulled is the wrong word" |
| 22:02.45 | ScytheBlade1 | "The Holy Trinity (Circle of Healing, LOLWell and Spirit of Redemption)" <-- slide at Blizzcon |
| 22:03.22 | Shirik | too bad 2/3 of the trinity are worthless |
| 22:03.27 | Kaso | spelt LOLWell ? |
| 22:03.31 | ScytheBlade1 | Spelt "LOLWell" |
| 22:03.33 | ScytheBlade1 | Dead serious |
| 22:03.34 | Shirik | lol. |
| 22:03.35 | Kaso | if so i need a picture of that |
| 22:03.38 | zenzelezz | think that's what he's saying Shirik |
| 22:03.39 | ScytheBlade1 | Just advanced |
| 22:03.47 | ScytheBlade1 | So no screenshot :/ |
| 22:03.53 | ScytheBlade1 | Was too busy laughing to think of that |
| 22:04.29 | ScytheBlade1 | And that "Holy Trinity" thing was in reference to talents that they thought were lesser used |
| 22:04.39 | ScytheBlade1 | And needed revamping |
| 22:05.11 | Kaso | Spirit of Redemption is pretty useful nowadays |
| 22:05.17 | Kaso | only way to heal in an arena |
| 22:05.22 | ScytheBlade1 | heh |
| 22:05.24 | Shirik | ol |
| 22:05.28 | Shirik | isn't that kinda cheating? |
| 22:05.33 | Shirik | =P |
| 22:05.55 | Kaso | perhaps its cheating, but you do have to die to do it, so, ballances out |
| 22:06.25 | ScytheBlade1 | Ha, the warlock slide |
| 22:06.29 | ScytheBlade1 | Half the crowd claps |
| 22:06.35 | ScytheBlade1 | The other half boos stupidly loud |
| 22:06.43 | zenzelezz | "I guess people don't like Fear or something" |
| 22:06.45 | ScytheBlade1 | lol - "I guess people don't like fear or something" <-- said |
| 22:07.21 | ScytheBlade1 | "Best dueling class, but WoW isn't a dueling game" <-- also just said |
| 22:07.52 | zenzelezz | "And I save the best class for last" <-- warrior |
| 22:07.55 | ScytheBlade1 | Yup |
| 22:08.00 | ScytheBlade1 | lol @ "push more buttons" |
| 22:08.24 | ScytheBlade1 | lol |
| 22:08.35 | ScytheBlade1 | "Best at what they do (with enough money for constant talent respecs)" |
| 22:09.02 | ScytheBlade1 | lol - zenzelezz - did you just hear what they yelled in the background? |
| 22:09.10 | zenzelezz | didn't catch it, no :-| |
| 22:09.14 | ScytheBlade1 | Some random person just yelled "Give us multiple specs!" |
| 22:09.20 | zenzelezz | lol |
| 22:09.39 | zenzelezz | that guy was pretty fun |
| 22:09.42 | ScytheBlade1 | Yeah |
| 22:09.44 | End | finally, info on wtf a hero class is supposed to be |
| 22:09.57 | ScytheBlade1 | Great to hear feedback on the classes - straight from the horse's mouth |
| 22:10.39 | zenzelezz | not going to be more powerful than other classes :-o |
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| 22:10.56 | ScytheBlade1 | The movie made you think otherwise |
| 22:11.17 | zenzelezz | the bare name or fact that you have to quest for it does too |
| 22:11.53 | End | strictly more powerful would be stupid as hell |
| 22:12.18 | ScytheBlade1 | Yeah |
| 22:12.31 | ScytheBlade1 | Man |
| 22:12.38 | End | if it was strictly more powerful, it'd mean you were meant to abandon your old character after you did the quest...which ugh |
| 22:12.38 | ScytheBlade1 | Gnome Death Knight will be ftw |
| 22:13.14 | zenzelezz | End: yeah, but right now I think I might do the quest and not touch the DK afterwards :-p Still wondering what they'll be good for |
| 22:14.36 | ScytheBlade1 | So they WILL be another tank class, period |
| 22:14.48 | End | that's true for my server at least: tanks tend to be a bit lacking often times |
| 22:14.59 | ScytheBlade1 | NO |
| 22:15.01 | ScytheBlade1 | BS |
| 22:15.01 | zenzelezz | tanks and healers, always |
| 22:15.02 | ScytheBlade1 | DIE |
| 22:15.06 | ScytheBlade1 | ARGH |
| 22:15.17 | End | fuck you giga II |
| 22:16.00 | End | anyways, yeah, healers tend to be a bit lacking too |
| 22:16.03 | ScytheBlade1 | You'd better be sorry |
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| 22:16.18 | ScytheBlade1 | Okay, though, SC will be hot. |
| 22:17.30 | zenzelezz | hrm, where do you find out when the next interesting part will be? |
| 22:17.38 | ScytheBlade1 | http://www.blizzard.com/blizzcon07/schedule.shtml |
| 22:17.41 | zenzelezz | cheers |
| 22:18.00 | ScytheBlade1 | Keep note that is in the local timezone |
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| 22:21.58 | Tem_ | they were finally talking about the death knight |
| 22:22.01 | ScytheBlade1 | Yup |
| 22:22.07 | ScytheBlade1 | <ScytheBlade1> NO |
| 22:22.07 | ScytheBlade1 | <ScytheBlade1> BS |
| 22:22.07 | ScytheBlade1 | <zenzelezz> tanks and healers, always |
| 22:22.07 | ScytheBlade1 | <ScytheBlade1> DIE |
| 22:22.07 | ScytheBlade1 | <ScytheBlade1> ARGH |
| 22:22.08 | ScytheBlade1 | * ScytheBlade1 STABS THE VIDEO STREAM |
| 22:22.10 | Tem_ | and they pull the stream for fricking koreans |
| 22:22.10 | ScytheBlade1 | ^ |
| 22:22.27 | Tem_ | lol yes |
| 22:22.42 | Tem_ | eh well, it gives me a chance to go get some food |
| 22:22.49 | Tem_ | also, LOL at the boo on locks |
| 22:22.56 | Tem_ | eat it locks |
| 22:23.01 | ScytheBlade1 | No joke |
| 22:25.31 | ScytheBlade1 | lol @ http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=712095997&sid=1&pageNo=24#474 |
| 22:25.32 | Kaso | Man that chick totaly wishes she wasnt doing that commentating with that guy. |
| 22:25.32 | Kaso | i can see the disgust in her eyes |
| 22:26.02 | ScytheBlade1 | lol yeah |
| 22:26.06 | ScytheBlade1 | Just look at his shirt |
| 22:26.11 | ScytheBlade1 | And compare his demeanor to hers |
| 22:26.19 | sysrage | wtf are you watching? |
| 22:26.34 | ScytheBlade1 | The live blizzcon stream |
| 22:26.41 | sysrage | where? |
| 22:26.49 | ScytheBlade1 | It's linked on blizzcon.com |
| 22:28.07 | Kaso | What time is now in blizzcon time zone? |
| 22:28.24 | TS|Skrom | 327 |
| 22:28.33 | TS|Skrom | s/327/3:27/ |
| 22:28.52 | Kaso | I know it wont make the stream but i'd love to see the 5:30pm - 6:30pm WoW UI and Mods panel |
| 22:29.00 | ScytheBlade1 | They're in the -0800 time zone |
| 22:29.03 | ScytheBlade1 | Indeed |
| 22:31.47 | sysrage | why the heck are they playing old ass starcraft? |
| 22:31.53 | ScytheBlade1 | Because SC is awesome |
| 22:31.57 | ScytheBlade1 | I'm actually enjoying this |
| 22:32.02 | Kaso | Cos they're korean |
| 22:32.08 | Kaso | what else do the play? |
| 22:32.12 | ScytheBlade1 | That too. |
| 22:32.42 | sysrage | people sit in an audience to watch some retards play a 10 year old game? |
| 22:33.00 | ScytheBlade1 | That 10 year old game is nothing short of incredible. |
| 22:33.02 | ScytheBlade1 | Ageless. |
| 22:33.16 | sysrage | that's not my point |
| 22:33.17 | End | SC was fun, but I don't know... |
| 22:33.35 | ScytheBlade1 | It's Blizzcon. :P |
| 22:33.52 | End | (I'd rather being watching the wotlk crap anyways...) |
| 22:34.39 | Kaso | i guess at 4 we'll switch back to raid and dungons? |
| 22:34.40 | Kaso | i hope |
| 22:34.42 | ScytheBlade1 | I can already tell that this match is going to be epic |
| 22:34.50 | ScytheBlade1 | Few minutes in and they already have multiple expansions |
| 22:35.26 | ScytheBlade1 | lol |
| 22:35.37 | ScytheBlade1 | "Is it common for a Zerg player to rush early in the game?" |
| 22:35.44 | ScytheBlade1 | I died a little inside |
| 22:35.58 | End | no, zerg -never- rushes. EVER. |
| 22:36.07 | Kaso | i was just about to say that |
| 22:36.14 | Kaso | haha |
| 22:36.30 | Kaso | Zergs? rushing my base? Well i never! |
| 22:36.40 | ScytheBlade1 | lol @ the rushed voice |
| 22:36.42 | ScytheBlade1 | A hahaha |
| 22:37.41 | Kaso | i wanted to see the asian's chick face when he was shouting there |
| 22:37.44 | ScytheBlade1 | Same |
| 22:38.51 | ScytheBlade1 | lolol |
| 22:38.53 | ScytheBlade1 | This is epic |
| 22:39.34 | Kaso | really, that is not nessasary |
| 22:39.39 | ScytheBlade1 | Not at all |
| 22:39.42 | ScytheBlade1 | But it's funny |
| 22:40.37 | Kaso | haha yes |
| 22:40.46 | sysrage | her name is bunny? |
| 22:40.50 | ScytheBlade1 | Nickname |
| 22:41.05 | ScytheBlade1 | BAM |
| 22:41.08 | ScytheBlade1 | IRRIDATE |
| 22:41.54 | ScytheBlade1 | Haha, another |
| 22:43.29 | ScytheBlade1 | Aww, that went too fast |
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| 22:51.18 | Kaso | my stream went down now i see someone playing around with network settings ^_- |
| 22:51.55 | ScytheBlade1 | lol |
| 22:51.59 | ScytheBlade1 | Mine died too |
| 22:52.01 | ScytheBlade1 | I'm reconnecting |
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| 22:52.11 | ScytheBlade1 | I'm missing the key parts of game 2 :( |
| 22:52.51 | ScytheBlade1 | I've got audio |
| 22:52.55 | ScytheBlade1 | And there's video |
| 22:53.34 | ScytheBlade1 | Wow, zerg got owned again |
| 22:53.46 | ScytheBlade1 | Or not |
| 22:53.48 | ScytheBlade1 | Micro > face |
| 22:53.50 | Kaso | nope |
| 22:53.51 | ScytheBlade1 | Sorry, I'll shut up |
| 22:53.52 | ScytheBlade1 | :) |
| 22:53.55 | Kaso | heh |
| 22:55.04 | ScytheBlade1 | This is an interesting map though |
| 22:58.25 | Kaso | arrrg it burns spread them! |
| 22:58.31 | ScytheBlade1 | He's a funny commentator |
| 22:58.37 | ScytheBlade1 | I really do enjoy him, however stupid it may be |
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| 22:59.23 | ScytheBlade1 | Saw that coming |
| 23:02.24 | Kaso | ok Raids and Dungons now! (please) |
| 23:02.29 | ScytheBlade1 | heh |
| 23:02.33 | ScytheBlade1 | .. nope |
| 23:03.23 | Kaso | no please i want to go away |
| 23:05.11 | ScytheBlade1 | I like my seat here a lot better than the seats that the seats that the attendees have there |
| 23:09.37 | ScytheBlade1 | And.. ohh |
| 23:09.42 | ScytheBlade1 | WoW arena match |
| 23:09.51 | Kaso | Grr, i want R&D talk not areans! |
| 23:10.28 | tardmrr | bleh |
| 23:10.34 | ScytheBlade1 | They really needed two channels |
| 23:10.37 | tardmrr | arena is not fun to watch in this form |
| 23:10.47 | tardmrr | the commentators are lame |
| 23:10.48 | ScytheBlade1 | One for the gaming coverage, and then another for the discussion panels |
| 23:11.02 | tardmrr | and it's difficult to see what's even going on |
| 23:11.17 | ScytheBlade1 | For SC, I enjoyed that |
| 23:11.22 | ScytheBlade1 | But the WoW arenas could be a bit more tricky |
| 23:11.30 | tardmrr | I probably would have enjoyed it, but I went to get food instead |
| 23:11.50 | tardmrr | It'd be better if I could enter like spectator mode or something and attach my camera to one of the team's mages |
| 23:11.56 | tardmrr | see what he's seeing |
| 23:12.01 | tardmrr | then I'd be happy |
| 23:12.19 | Mr_Rabies2 | they have spec mode implemented for tournaments now |
| 23:12.47 | ScytheBlade1 | R&D discussion panel: http://www.wowinsider.com/2007/08/03/liveblogging-blizzcons-dungeons-and-raids-panel/ |
| 23:13.36 | Kaso | StarCraft III Semifinals |
| 23:13.43 | ScytheBlade1 | III eh |
| 23:13.44 | Kaso | 7:30pm - 9pm |
| 23:13.44 | Kaso | ^_- |
| 23:14.16 | ScytheBlade1 | http://www.wowinsider.com/rss.xml <-- probably going to be easier |
| 23:15.48 | sysrage | how long are they gonna sit there playing shitty music? |
| 23:15.53 | Kaso | What is Muradan ? |
| 23:16.05 | Antiarc|Work | Maraudon |
| 23:16.08 | Kaso | oh mauradon ? |
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| 23:22.39 | tardmrr | any idea what kind of interface requirements they have on people in these types of tournaments? |
| 23:22.43 | Kaso | Ok might be starting soon. |
| 23:22.50 | tardmrr | I'd die if I had to base UI for an arena match |
| 23:22.53 | ScytheBlade1 | Yeah @ Tem |
| 23:22.56 | ScytheBlade1 | It's required base UI |
| 23:22.57 | Kaso | thats an interesting question tardmrr |
| 23:23.02 | ScytheBlade1 | It's in the rules |
| 23:23.03 | Kaso | base really? owch |
| 23:23.09 | ScytheBlade1 | For the qualifiers, you can use whatever |
| 23:23.14 | ScytheBlade1 | Semi-finals, you have 15m to setup before |
| 23:23.23 | ScytheBlade1 | FInals, you get stock UI and settings |
| 23:23.35 | ScytheBlade1 | Which would _kill_ me, as I'm a keybinder |
| 23:23.45 | tardmrr | wait wait, what? |
| 23:23.52 | tardmrr | you don't even have time to change keybindings? |
| 23:23.56 | ScytheBlade1 | In theory no |
| 23:24.08 | ScytheBlade1 | The rules state that you have 15m to setup in semifinals |
| 23:24.15 | ScytheBlade1 | You can do anything there |
| 23:24.17 | tardmrr | an in the finals? |
| 23:24.24 | ScytheBlade1 | The rules also state that in the finals, you do NOT have those 15 minutes |
| 23:24.36 | tardmrr | theoretically, I need 30 seconds |
| 23:24.36 | Kaso | thats horrific |
| 23:24.36 | ScytheBlade1 | Or the ability to run addons |
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| 23:24.55 | ScytheBlade1 | Lemme find the rules |
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| 23:25.48 | ScytheBlade1 | http://armory.worldofwarcraft.com/arena-tournament-rules.xml |
| 23:26.12 | ScytheBlade1 | Third party user interfaces compatible with World of Warcraft, and which do not violate the World of Warcraft Terms of Use may be used during the First and, if applicable, Second Qualification Rounds of the Tournament, but will not be allowed at the Regional Qualifier or the Finals. At the Regional Qualifier, and the Finals, Team Members will have fifteen (15) minutes prior to the start of the first match with each opponent Team Member t |
| 23:26.12 | ScytheBlade1 | o prepare the computer on which they will use to participate in the Tournament match. |
| 23:26.29 | ScytheBlade1 | Okay, so you can keybind the finals |
| 23:26.32 | ScytheBlade1 | I misread |
| 23:26.36 | ScytheBlade1 | But still no addons, and stock UI |
| 23:27.49 | ScytheBlade1 | I would assume that macros are fine |
| 23:27.58 | tardmrr | I don't need an addon to do my biggest needs on the base UI |
| 23:28.10 | tardmrr | though, arena targeting is huge |
| 23:28.21 | Kaso | 20min limit to games, lets hope we dont get a healer v healer situation |
| 23:28.28 | ScytheBlade1 | I'd bring over a crapload of macros personally |
| 23:28.37 | tardmrr | my biggest need would be prettying up the SCT |
| 23:28.42 | tardmrr | which I can do via macro |
| 23:29.03 | Kaso | for healers the bitch of the default UI is you cannot see the heal-bars well enough on the default ui |
| 23:29.17 | tardmrr | and no clickcasting |
| 23:29.33 | tardmrr | well, that could also be set up via macros |
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| 23:29.51 | ScytheBlade1 | Bring a USB drive with your macros |
| 23:30.06 | Kaso | if you can quickly write an addon using /script, is that allowed? |
| 23:30.24 | ScytheBlade1 | The devil is in the details |
| 23:30.24 | tardmrr | that's what I'm talking about, Kaso |
| 23:30.29 | Kaso | im sure i could wriet a couple useful things in 15min |
| 23:30.45 | ScytheBlade1 | Write them beforehand, use the 15m to set them up |
| 23:30.46 | ScytheBlade1 | Done |
| 23:30.46 | tardmrr | I could pretty up the FCT, setup my click casts |
| 23:32.20 | Kaso | I hope there is at least some difference to the gear/team setups these people have |
| 23:32.37 | ScytheBlade1 | There are two similarities |
| 23:32.42 | ScytheBlade1 | Each team has a warrior |
| 23:32.47 | ScytheBlade1 | No teams have any druids |
| 23:32.54 | tardmrr | their gear is player selected from SSC, TK:TE, and S1 |
| 23:33.05 | tardmrr | (and below, if they so choose) |
| 23:33.15 | Kaso | oh they dont have to transfer over their chars? |
| 23:33.18 | ScytheBlade1 | So they don't get to use their character? |
| 23:33.21 | tardmrr | premades |
| 23:33.25 | ScytheBlade1 | Ow |
| 23:33.26 | tardmrr | with player selected gear |
| 23:33.40 | ScytheBlade1 | The S1 gear makes sense |
| 23:33.43 | tardmrr | nothing wrong with that imo |
| 23:33.44 | ScytheBlade1 | It's... Season 1. |
| 23:34.18 | tardmrr | the interface restriction annoys me, though |
| 23:34.39 | Kaso | mmhm |
| 23:35.16 | Mr_Rabies2 | it's likely because they don't want you messing with their computers in any way |
| 23:35.31 | tardmrr | sigh, 40 minutes of shitty music and no action when we could be listening to R&D panel |
| 23:35.41 | tardmrr | MR_Rabies, that's hardly a valid concern |
| 23:35.42 | Mr_Rabies2 | yeah, giga fails it hard |
| 23:35.54 | ScytheBlade1 | I really do think that it makes sense to limit use of addons though |
| 23:35.58 | Kaso | so this is listed as starting at 4:00 |
| 23:36.05 | Kaso | its now 20min to 5 |
| 23:36.14 | Matrix110 | Kaso its delayed |
| 23:36.18 | Matrix110 | the WC3 match 1 didnt work |
| 23:36.19 | Mr_Rabies2 | how's it not a valid concern? they don't want anyone doing anything to those machines D: |
| 23:36.22 | Matrix110 | was delayed for more than 1hr |
| 23:36.24 | Tem|Work | there was some kind of WC3 issue |
| 23:36.38 | ScytheBlade1 | The players could hear the commentators |
| 23:36.44 | ScytheBlade1 | And see their screen |
| 23:36.50 | ScytheBlade1 | Sliiight problem. |
| 23:36.55 | Mr_Rabies2 | just a bit |
| 23:37.07 | Tem|Work | Mr_Rabies2, then why allow people to do stuff in the qualifying rounds? |
| 23:37.07 | Matrix110 | and keyboard didnt work |
| 23:37.09 | Kaso | i am, reallyed lagged >.< |
| 23:37.32 | Matrix110 | Tem|Work telling |
| 23:37.36 | Mr_Rabies2 | aren't the qualifying rounds on YOUR computer? |
| 23:37.37 | Matrix110 | 4mio people to not use Addons |
| 23:37.42 | Matrix110 | is harder than doing that do 20:P |
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| 23:39.02 | Matrix110 | 100$ for sitting there on the floor for hours seeing nothing:P |
| 23:39.38 | ScytheBlade1 | <ScytheBlade1> I like my seat here a lot better than the seats that the seats that the attendees have there <-- |
| 23:39.49 | ScytheBlade1 | I've got food and a nice seat, and a reasonable quality video stream. |
| 23:40.05 | ScytheBlade1 | And $100 in my pocket that I wouldn't have otherwise |
| 23:40.22 | Matrix110 | but well you get nice goodies for the 100$ atleast |
| 23:40.43 | Matrix110 | + you can sell the murloc custome if you want to:P |
| 23:40.48 | ScytheBlade1 | You'd better |
| 23:41.07 | ScytheBlade1 | I think they're about to start from the LOOK of it |
| 23:41.15 | ScytheBlade1 | The commentators are taking their seats |
| 23:41.23 | ScytheBlade1 | And the teams are in place |
| 23:41.39 | Mr_Rabies2 | giga really fails |
| 23:42.02 | ScytheBlade1 | I'd be happy with two streams |
| 23:42.08 | ScytheBlade1 | One covering the main discussion panel |
| 23:42.12 | Matrix110 | 1 panel stream 1 gaming stream |
| 23:42.13 | ScytheBlade1 | And one covering the competitions |
| 23:42.14 | ScytheBlade1 | Yup |
| 23:42.26 | Mr_Rabies2 | i hope blizzard doesn't ask them to come back next year, or at i hope they won't be the only one covering it |
| 23:42.27 | Matrix110 | the thing is giga2 is just eSports normally |
| 23:42.47 | Mr_Rabies2 | or they learn how to not fail so hard |
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| 23:43.28 | Matrix110 | they are keybinding atm i guess |
| 23:43.42 | Mr_Rabies2 | i'll keybind you |
| 23:43.45 | Mr_Rabies2 | >:[ |
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| 23:44.21 | Kaso_ | how can my stream contiune 100% no problem |
| 23:44.30 | Kaso_ | by my IRC die and fair to connect properly |
| 23:44.32 | ScytheBlade1 | lol |
| 23:44.36 | ScytheBlade1 | ISP racism |
| 23:44.59 | Mr_Rabies2 | kaso |
| 23:45.01 | Mr_Rabies2 | the plugin |
| 23:45.08 | Mr_Rabies2 | uses P2P to stream |
| 23:45.16 | Mr_Rabies2 | so you're offloading streams to other people |
| 23:45.17 | Kaso_ | ooh |
| 23:45.20 | Mr_Rabies2 | which is probably raping your connection |
| 23:45.26 | Matrix110 | if your upstream sucks the plugin sucks it up and you timeout from other things |
| 23:45.41 | ScytheBlade1 | Oddly, my connection is having no problems |
| 23:45.42 | ScytheBlade1 | At all |
| 23:45.42 | Matrix110 | stream+wow=900-2000ping for me |
| 23:45.59 | Matrix110 | it depends on your upstream |
| 23:46.04 | Matrix110 | iam sitting here with 196kbit upstream |
| 23:46.05 | Matrix110 | :P |
| 23:46.07 | ScytheBlade1 | 384kbit |
| 23:46.11 | ScytheBlade1 | Not much more. |
| 23:46.15 | Matrix110 | double |
| 23:46.25 | ScytheBlade1 | Still nothing at all though |
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| 23:49.28 | ScytheBlade1 | The music WAS good. |
| 23:49.30 | ScytheBlade1 | Not anymore. |
| 23:50.48 | Matrix110 | they are keybinding long |
| 23:50.50 | Matrix110 | ffs |
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| 23:51.35 | ScytheBlade1 | At least the commentator API makes sense now |
| 23:51.39 | ScytheBlade1 | Namely why it was implimented |
| 23:54.00 | ScytheBlade1 | 55 minutes late.. |
| 23:54.06 | ScytheBlade1 | lol, looks like more problems |
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