| 00:01.33 | Lunessa | lol |
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| 00:09.08 | Mr_Rabies2 | ah |
| 00:09.16 | Mr_Rabies2 | i'd get to have fun on my druid if only i was in tier 6 :[ |
| 00:09.35 | Mr_Rabies2 | i'm tearing the arenas up with tier 6 :D |
| 00:14.35 | Lunessa | ... I'd be happy with some tier 4 right now. |
| 00:16.44 | Mr_Rabies2 | ptr :P |
| 00:16.56 | Mr_Rabies2 | all the druid sets are pretty meh except tier 6 |
| 00:17.27 | Mr_Rabies2 | feral that is |
| 00:17.31 | Mr_Rabies2 | i dunno about the other ones |
| 00:20.27 | Bleeter | zenzelezz: for the record, guild I was previously in also used 'nipple' |
| 00:20.41 | Mr_Rabies2 | it's condom or nipple, alternatively |
| 00:20.49 | Mr_Rabies2 | i usually use circle with pugs though |
| 00:20.56 | Mr_Rabies2 | just so that some whiner doesn't report me |
| 00:21.24 | Bleeter | acutally, being Aussies, we called it 'the tit', which would no doubt amuse Kirkburn no end |
| 00:21.34 | Bleeter | same idea, tho |
| 00:21.40 | Kirkburn | :D |
| 00:21.50 | Kirkburn | bewbs! |
| 00:22.03 | Lunessa | A man after my own heart. |
| 00:22.21 | Bleeter | Kaydeethree: were we going to creat a Horde guild as well? |
| 00:22.36 | Bleeter | or alternatively, was one created? |
| 00:22.50 | Kaydeethree | I dunno. I don't have any horde characters and don't feel like waiting for a premade to transfer over |
| 00:23.25 | Bleeter | fair nuff, well, might go register a <Dev Clue> guild... if anyone wander past needs/wants, etc. |
| 00:25.21 | Kirkburn | My god our game articles are shite |
| 00:25.30 | Kirkburn | Severly AWFUL |
| 00:25.58 | Kirkburn | It's like someone was purposely beating them with the ugly stick |
| 00:26.46 | Mr_Rabies2 | O_o |
| 00:26.58 | Kirkburn | (wowwiki) |
| 00:27.22 | Kirkburn | I forgot what channel I was on, then :P |
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| 00:28.34 | Bleeter | Kirkburn: I thought you were the ugly stick! |
| 00:28.44 | Kirkburn | Nah, that's your mom |
| 00:29.00 | Bleeter | dunno what's worse |
| 00:29.07 | Kirkburn | Your mom |
| 00:29.13 | Bleeter | the idea of beating wowwiki articles with my mum, or kirkburn beating himself |
| 00:29.55 | Kirkburn | Your mom. It's always your mom. |
| 00:33.42 | Bleeter | <Dev Clue> Horde PvE PTR is created, msg Mumu ingame, or ping me here |
| 00:33.56 | Lunessa | My mom beating Kirkburn with an ugly wowwiki-stick? *boggle* |
| 00:34.27 | Kirkburn | I'll go black and blue ;) |
| 00:34.33 | Kirkburn | badum-pshhhhh |
| 00:34.47 | Kirkburn | Well, several shades of grey and blue |
| 00:34.52 | Bleeter | btw, need sigs for the Horde PvE PTR modder guild |
| 00:34.56 | Kirkburn | And a little orange |
| 00:35.00 | Lunessa | Remember to tip your waitstaff. Try the veal. |
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| 00:35.08 | Kirkburn | :D |
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| 00:41.22 | Mr_Rabies2 | i'm allegedly exalted with your FACE |
| 00:41.55 | Lunessa | I shot him with a fireball. RIGHT. IN. HIS. FACE. |
| 00:42.08 | Shirik | ooh |
| 00:42.18 | Shirik | that's hwat |
| 00:42.18 | Shirik | hawt* |
| 00:42.45 | Lunessa | hawt. |
| 00:43.03 | Lunessa | Yes, I'm bored, and I'm at work. |
| 00:44.31 | Shirik | rofl |
| 00:44.31 | Shirik | that's awesome |
| 00:50.46 | Bleeter | woot, seem to have lost connection to the PvE PTR |
| 00:51.11 | Bleeter | yup, world server down |
| 00:51.22 | Shirik | fun |
| 00:51.43 | Bleeter | ouch, 1200 queue on the PvP realm |
| 00:51.43 | Shirik | time to look up the server crash dump |
| 00:51.50 | Shirik | rofl |
| 00:52.15 | Bleeter | I wonder how much genuine user feedback Blizz are getting from all these premade folks |
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| 00:52.48 | Shirik | why do people do premades on ptr |
| 00:53.46 | Kaydeethree | because they want to compensate for their poor play on live with leet epics and a different class? |
| 00:54.06 | Kaydeethree | read: everyone copying warlocks |
| 00:54.17 | Shirik | well yeah |
| 00:54.54 | Lunessa | Server logs give lots of juicy data though. |
| 00:55.37 | Bleeter | My only interest, really, in premade is to 'confirm' to me the builds I'm making on non-levelled live toons, ie trying not to have to respec @ 70 |
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| 01:12.21 | Kirov | Yay! New wireless router! |
| 01:12.24 | Kirov | This one doesn't suck! |
| 01:13.20 | Shirik | I HATE programmers that write programs that think they're smarter than you |
| 01:13.40 | Shirik | like when I type "mail.db.erau.edu" I actually somehow meant "http://www.mail.db.erau.edu.net" |
| 01:13.41 | Lunessa | ... So, you hate me? |
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| 01:14.01 | Lunessa | I kid, I kid. |
| 01:14.02 | Shirik | or the guys who made my CAM program |
| 01:14.13 | Shirik | where you click on "top overlay" and then try to move something in the top overlay |
| 01:14.20 | Shirik | and it decides "no you actually meant to move this item on the bottom layer" |
| 01:15.03 | Shirik | luckily we're trashing that program soon |
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| 01:20.29 | Bleeter | oO http://lolcode.com/implementations/lua-translator |
| 01:21.15 | Shirik | been around for a while |
| 01:21.16 | Shirik | a lot of "translators" |
| 01:21.28 | Shirik | not too many actual interpreter/compilers though |
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| 01:31.45 | ScytheBlade1 | I don't suppose there's a table of Raid Icon IDs to names? (1 = star, etc) |
| 01:31.54 | Shirik | OMG |
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| 01:31.57 | Shirik | no wonder my internet was horrible |
| 01:31.59 | Shirik | I was in vent |
| 01:32.00 | Shirik | wtf |
| 01:32.05 | ScytheBlade1 | lol |
| 01:32.14 | Shirik | it randomly opened itself >.> |
| 01:33.01 | Lunessa | ScytheBlade1: http://www.wowwiki.com/Lucky_Charms |
| 01:33.21 | ScytheBlade1 | ... in game table ;) |
| 01:33.44 | Lunessa | 0 = none, 8 = skull |
| 01:33.56 | ScytheBlade1 | Yes, I'm looking for one that's already defined in the default UI |
| 01:33.57 | ScytheBlade1 | In game |
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| 01:37.35 | Lunessa | ScytheBlade1: http://wdn.wowinterface.com/code/live/FrameXML/TargetFrame.lua |
| 01:38.52 | ScytheBlade1 | That doesn't have the names though |
| 01:40.59 | Garoun|Loupana | I don't think they have names, if you mean code wise |
| 01:41.09 | Garoun|Loupana | they are just a number associated to a texture |
| 01:41.14 | Lunessa | bah, code your own list. |
| 01:41.20 | ScytheBlade1 | It's for a macro :/ |
| 01:41.39 | Garoun|Loupana | then use the numbers :P from the lucky_charms link lunessa gave you :) |
| 01:42.05 | ScytheBlade1 | I know the number, I just didn't want to make my own list of (number) = (english for symbol) |
| 01:42.27 | ScytheBlade1 | Hence: |
| 01:42.27 | ScytheBlade1 | <ScytheBlade1> I don't suppose there's a table of Raid Icon IDs to names? (1 = star, etc) |
| 01:42.28 | ScytheBlade1 | :) |
| 01:42.34 | Shirik | sure there is |
| 01:42.35 | Garoun|Loupana | http://www.wowwiki.com/API_SetRaidTarget |
| 01:42.39 | Shirik | it's in RDX |
| 01:42.57 | ScytheBlade1 | ... that's not an in-game table. |
| 01:43.00 | Kirov | SRTI has it too |
| 01:43.03 | ScytheBlade1 | That's a list on a website. |
| 01:43.04 | Shirik | it's in-game for me :D |
| 01:43.09 | Shirik | oh |
| 01:43.20 | Kirov | And, actually ... |
| 01:43.20 | Garoun|Loupana | he's being difficult Shirik :P |
| 01:43.28 | Shirik | want me to post the code? |
| 01:43.32 | Shirik | You can even include it if you want :D |
| 01:43.35 | Shirik | It even has alternate names |
| 01:43.37 | Shirik | synonyms |
| 01:43.46 | ScytheBlade1 | I'm just asking if there is such a table in the default UI |
| 01:43.49 | Shirik | and |
| 01:43.49 | Shirik | -- And some extra data for scalability |
| 01:43.50 | ScytheBlade1 | That's all, lol |
| 01:43.50 | Shirik | MIN = 0, ICONMIN = 1, MAX = 8 -- (ICONMIN is the minimum value which still represents an icon (NO_ICON is not an icon) ) |
| 01:44.09 | Garoun|Loupana | no, there isn't a table in teh default ui |
| 01:44.12 | Shirik | to answer your question, no |
| 01:44.15 | Shirik | not in the default UI |
| 01:44.24 | ScytheBlade1 | ty |
| 01:44.24 | Shirik | But if everyone had RDX, then everyone would have it |
| 01:44.24 | Garoun|Loupana | the default ui uses a number, that maps to a texture |
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| 01:44.26 | Garoun|Loupana | :) |
| 01:44.32 | ScytheBlade1 | That's all I was asking for |
| 01:45.27 | Kirov | UnitPopupMenus["RAID_TARGET_ICON"] = |
| 01:45.53 | Garoun|Loupana | now why did you have to go there Kirov :P |
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| 01:46.40 | Shirik | Kirov: That helps how? |
| 01:46.57 | Shirik | you get 1= RAID_TARGET_1, 2 = RAID_TARGET_2, etc... |
| 01:47.12 | Garoun|Loupana | I think he was trying to say that there is actually a place that the default ui ties a name to a number |
| 01:47.19 | Shirik | oh |
| 01:47.21 | Shirik | heh |
| 01:47.25 | Kirov | for k, v in ipairs(UnitPopupMenus.RAID_TARGET_ICON) do |
| 01:47.25 | Kirov | if ( v:match("^RAID_TARGET_%d$") then |
| 01:47.25 | Kirov | iconNames[k] = getglobal(v); |
| 01:47.28 | Kirov | end end |
| 01:47.37 | Shirik | Anyway ScytheBlade1 if you really want it http://wowi.pastey.net/71335 |
| 01:47.52 | Kirov | iconNames will result in a table of 1-9 with the icon names |
| 01:47.54 | Garoun|Loupana | ooo texture name voodoo, nice kirov lol |
| 01:47.57 | Shirik | ah I see |
| 01:49.34 | Kirov | RAID_TARGET_1 - _9 are all references to GlobalStrings |
| 01:49.40 | Shirik | interesting |
| 01:49.52 | Kirov | "None" is the only odd ball |
| 01:50.00 | Kirov | Since it's not technically an icon |
| 01:50.06 | Shirik | But getglobal() sucks :P |
| 01:50.14 | Kirov | Agreed |
| 01:50.47 | Kirov | for SRTI I have a table matching basic names to each icon, so "star" and "yellow" both match "1" |
| 01:53.16 | Shirik | so like mine :) |
| 01:53.44 | Kirov | probably |
| 01:54.01 | Shirik | I think that's the easiest, most straightforward way to do it |
| 01:54.02 | Kirov | But does yours have an animated radial menu? |
| 01:55.44 | Lunessa | ... shiny! |
| 01:56.08 | Kirov | http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info5353-SimpleRaidTargetIcons.html |
| 01:57.31 | Kirov | Out of curiosity, does anyone here use BananaBar2? |
| 01:57.54 | Kirov | At this point it seems to of become the defacto raid icon addon, but I've never actually been able to use it. |
| 01:58.06 | Kirov | It locks my WoW on load. |
| 01:58.33 | Shirik | uh.. someone wants me to run steam vaults |
| 01:58.36 | Shirik | so... I'm gonna try this |
| 01:58.37 | Shirik | lol |
| 01:58.39 | Shirik | wish me luck |
| 01:58.48 | Kirov | happy dying! |
| 01:58.50 | Shirik | Hopping off mirc though to get as much bandwidth as I can >< |
| 01:58.51 | Shirik | take care |
| 01:59.19 | Mr_Rabies2 | again i ask |
| 01:59.25 | Mr_Rabies2 | are you on a 9600 baud modem? |
| 01:59.27 | Mr_Rabies2 | :P |
| 01:59.37 | Mr_Rabies2 | :P |
| 01:59.40 | Mr_Rabies2 | oops |
| 01:59.47 | Mr_Rabies2 | messing with keyboard, arrow key is stuck |
| 01:59.54 | Lunessa | I don't. I have a bar with 11 macros on it for targeting functions that sits next to my target/focus block. |
| 02:02.08 | Lunessa | Mostly they're /run SetRaidTargetIcon("target", 1); stuff, but this let me name the macros the same as the icon and get used to memorizing the bindings. |
| 02:02.46 | Mr_Rabies2 | i just bound mine to shift + numpad |
| 02:02.47 | Lunessa | Once I have the bindings on automatic in my head, I'll ditch the macros and just use direct keybinds. |
| 02:02.50 | Garoun|Loupana | I use targetcharms |
| 02:02.58 | Garoun|Loupana | small, customizable, does the job |
| 02:03.02 | Garoun|Loupana | :) |
| 02:03.32 | Mr_Rabies2 | shift + 1 is skull, which is the only one often set in combat |
| 02:03.39 | Lunessa | Key-binds take me lots of repetition to learn/unlearn. |
| 02:04.54 | Kirov | Garoun|Loupana - you might try SimpleRaidTargetIcons |
| 02:05.15 | Kirov | My biggest problem with all of the marking addons is they take up screen space where the icons sit and do nothing most of the time. |
| 02:05.56 | Mr_Rabies2 | i just set mine to keybindings :P |
| 02:06.14 | Mr_Rabies2 | no ui necessary :o |
| 02:06.18 | Kirov | heh |
| 02:06.30 | Garoun|Loupana | mine is set to go across the bottom of my screen below my cast bar |
| 02:07.04 | Garoun|Loupana | I'm raid/group leader 99% of the time so I end up using it a lot :) and it's gotten to where I forget to turn it off when I take a screenshot :P |
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| 02:08.45 | Bleeter | wow, so the US members of the guild I'm in are getting together for a BBQ... and are buying a whole cow |
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| 02:09.07 | Lunessa | ... There better be a lot of people going. |
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| 02:09.16 | Lunessa | That's a lot of beef. |
| 02:09.46 | Bleeter | Sounds like about 20-30+.. it's a result of one of those old casual vs hardcore splits, and the two guilds that went 'hardcore' have collapsed and have come back |
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| 02:10.34 | Bleeter | parrently an all-weekend BBQ, byo grog |
| 02:10.49 | Kirov | A friend of mine has parents who own a farm. He has a massive freezer next to his front door that has basically an entire cow in it. |
| 02:10.58 | Lunessa | I did a pig roast once. I got a small pig. There was enough food for more than 30 people. A whole cow is several hundred pounds of meat. |
| 02:11.16 | Bleeter | they aren't sending me an airplane ticket, though... so I asked for a tub of lard to cover myself with while I swim the Pacific. Turned me down on that, too :'( |
| 02:11.31 | Lunessa | haha |
| 02:18.58 | Fin | where's my cow? |
| 02:20.29 | Mr_Rabies2 | just ride a hunstman spider there bleeter |
| 02:20.42 | Mr_Rabies2 | i'm sure they're excellent swimmers |
| 02:25.40 | Nom- | OMG that's awesome |
| 02:25.42 | Nom- | http://members.iinet.com.au/~mattwoodcock/photos/25-07-07_1633.jpg |
| 02:25.47 | Nom- | http://members.iinet.com.au/~mattwoodcock/photos/25-07-07_1634.jpg |
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| 02:40.10 | Lunessa | Monkey Boy! |
| 02:41.37 | Fin | there's my cow! |
| 02:42.25 | cog|book | is there something i should know about SetScale that would cause fontstrings to get all crappy? |
| 02:43.49 | Fin | yes, SetScale makes fontstrings get all crappy |
| 02:43.59 | cog|book | good to know |
| 02:44.28 | Fin | hey cogwheel! mind if I pick your brains about messin with chat messages? |
| 02:44.47 | cog|book | not much left to pick atm, but you can try :P |
| 02:44.50 | Fin | heh |
| 02:45.14 | Fin | I've spent hours and hours trying to figure it out myself, and failed unfortunately |
| 02:45.49 | Fin | here's my problem: I wrote a module for Prat called Alias, that should let set unix-style aliases |
| 02:46.00 | Fin | eg, /alias /sh /say hello |
| 02:46.09 | Fin | then you can just type /sh to say hello |
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| 02:46.45 | cog|book | simplest way is to just store the slash command and run it... no need to do anything with chat messages |
| 02:46.50 | Fin | it sort of works, but I can't figure out how to get it to parse aliases and replace them with the aliased command if the user presses return straight after the alias |
| 02:47.08 | Fin | I wanted to try and stay away from that way of doing it |
| 02:47.25 | cog|book | any particular reason? |
| 02:47.50 | cog|book | simple to implement and incredibly flexible... |
| 02:47.55 | Fin | I had thought of it, but I didn't want to mess with existing slash commands, sort of - I'd like it to work like unix aliases do, so an alias is parsed before anything else |
| 02:48.45 | Fin | also, I'd like the aliases to be a bit more flexible in the future, hopefully |
| 02:48.45 | Fin | so you can do /alias /sh %1 /say hello %1 |
| 02:48.45 | Fin | or something |
| 02:48.49 | Nom- | btw, the reason that article is funny to me |
| 02:48.53 | Nom- | is coz i work at that company |
| 02:48.57 | Fin | that's the reason I'm picking on you :) because of MacroTalk |
| 02:49.05 | Nom- | BUT |
| 02:49.07 | cog|book | :) |
| 02:49.14 | Nom- | I don't have a Nintendo DS or watch Chaser :P |
| 02:49.26 | Fin | also: now that I've spent such a long time trying to figure out how to do it another way, I'd really like to know why I couldn't get it working |
| 02:49.43 | cog|book | hmm... |
| 02:49.55 | Fin | my problem is that I can't figure out how to modify the actual command - the UI does some weird things with channel names and chat message headers and stuff |
| 02:50.05 | ZealotOnAStick | which is a better Worms game, World Party or Armageddon? |
| 02:50.24 | cog|book | Fin: i still think it would be better to consider it a slash command challenge than a chat api challenge |
| 02:50.44 | Fin | it does editBox:GetText() a lot, which is empty most of the time - I think because the text has had the header (channel?) removed, and the "text" is only the rest of the stuff (which means there's no text if you just type /onecommand) |
| 02:50.50 | cog|book | I'm imagining some cool upvalue tricks |
| 02:51.00 | cog|book | based on the existence of the %1, %2, etc. |
| 02:52.01 | Fin | so, I guess you don't know off the top of your head where it's possible to parse and modify the command when a user enters /slashcommand? |
| 02:52.04 | cog|book | so when you do /alias /sh %1 %2 it will create a new slash command parser function that iterates through ... |
| 02:52.16 | Fin | hum |
| 02:52.25 | cog|book | err... not ... but the message |
| 02:52.53 | Fin | I've read through ChatFrame.lua so many times my brain hurts |
| 02:53.03 | Fin | hurts more |
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| 02:53.23 | cog|book | ignore all that for now :P |
| 02:53.28 | Fin | OK, it's worth a try |
| 02:53.40 | cog|book | feel free to steal my slash command running code if you haven't already :P |
| 02:53.56 | Fin | I'll see if I can get a basic alias system up and running first |
| 02:54.06 | Fin | oh, hey thanks, I might do that |
| 02:54.24 | Fin | I want to understand what's going on though, I'll try and get something working if I can :) |
| 02:54.39 | Fin | MacroTalk is awesome, btw :) |
| 02:54.49 | cog|book | tx :) |
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| 03:05.24 | doskoi | use macro talk ? |
| 03:06.02 | cog|book | hmm? |
| 03:06.36 | doskoi | Fin: what is MacroTalk ? |
| 03:06.57 | cog|book | http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info6853-MacroTalk.html |
| 03:07.06 | Fin | "MacroTalk provides extended chat command support especially useful for macros. |
| 03:07.09 | Fin | For comments, bug reports, etc., please visit http://cogwheel.wowinterface.com." |
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| 03:09.22 | doskoi | it make slash better |
| 03:09.51 | Fin | yes, and more |
| 03:10.00 | Fin | buy now! for a free murloc |
| 03:10.10 | cog|book | Nooo!!! Murky is MINE! |
| 03:11.30 | Fin | sorry! we are unable to provide your free murloc as we are temporarily out of stock due to high demand. please accept ** one free day ** as a token of how much we care about you |
| 03:12.04 | Bleeter | noooo! they be stealing my Murky! |
| 03:12.06 | doskoi | emm, what is murloc ? |
| 03:12.32 | cog|book | http://www.wowwiki.com/Murloc |
| 03:12.58 | Bleeter | doskoi: what is the name in Chinese? Can it be said in English? |
| 03:14.08 | doskoi | nice pet, this call "Ben Bo Er Ba", it a mob name in <Story of a Journey to the West or The Pilgrimage to the West> |
| 03:14.22 | Cide | I am murloc! |
| 03:14.33 | cog|book | I will be murloc after blizzcon! |
| 03:14.37 | cog|book | :P |
| 03:14.45 | doskoi | i like blizzcon |
| 03:15.02 | Lunessa | so I herd u like murlocs |
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| 03:16.18 | doskoi | but , i never get this cute pet |
| 03:17.13 | cog|book | I got mine at the last blizzcon... It's gonna be so cool dressing up as a murloc and have murky trailing behind me >< |
| 03:17.53 | Lunessa | ... I have merloc envy |
| 03:18.41 | Zicon | We all do. |
| 03:18.56 | doskoi | are murloc like dance often? |
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| 03:22.40 | Fin | only on the weekends |
| 03:24.02 | cog|book | every five minutes they have a random chance to go off |
| 03:24.13 | cog|book | we had 5 murkies in my guild at one point |
| 03:24.29 | cog|book | they would dance together every now and then :) |
| 03:24.36 | cog|book | (not all 5 at once, but still) |
| 03:24.43 | Bleeter | doskoi: do the have a Blizzcon, or similar gathering for Warcraft fans, in China? |
| 03:25.15 | doskoi | I never hear that |
| 03:25.43 | doskoi | but in game ,have a npc to input blizzcon code to get murky |
| 03:26.11 | Bleeter | I think I remember they were advertising earlier this year for a Public Relations person for China, maybe they're hoping to start something |
| 03:27.11 | doskoi | maybe have some gathering, but it just game's agent do it, not blizzard |
| 03:28.19 | Bleeter | (also known as a holiday for staff ;-) |
| 03:28.38 | doskoi | and maybe your used blizzcon code can use at china server again |
| 03:29.04 | Bleeter | interesting idea ;) |
| 03:29.35 | Bleeter | if the US codes can be used on Europe servers, it might work in China as well, but I doubt they do |
| 03:30.35 | doskoi | so, china never have blizzcon, why ingame have this npc |
| 03:31.18 | Bleeter | a lot easier to leave an NPC ingame that has no function, than have more different code to maintain, I guess |
| 03:33.11 | doskoi | i try input number 11111111, it's tell me this a invalid code |
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| 03:35.42 | doskoi | it be work, i was see this pet of another player ingame |
| 03:39.49 | Kirkburn|sleep | Btw, I have to post this, it's far too disturbing - http://www.badastronomy.com/bablog/2007/07/25/texas-doomed/ |
| 03:40.01 | Kirkburn|sleep | Anyone from Texas, prepare to be pissed off |
| 03:40.26 | Kirkburn|sleep | (Or if you're not pissed off, prepare to make me pissed off ;) |
| 03:40.37 | Kaydeethree | oh, no way |
| 03:40.42 | Kaydeethree | that <...> idiot |
| 03:40.50 | cog|book | ping |Jelly| |
| 03:43.09 | doskoi | lunch time |
| 03:45.18 | Nom- | LOL |
| 03:45.21 | Nom- | Doomed indeed |
| 03:45.50 | Kaydeethree | and I thought cobb county (where I went to high school) was bad with the anti-evolution stickers in the biology textbooks |
| 03:45.52 | Kaydeethree | this takes the case |
| 03:46.29 | Kirkburn|sleep | Stickers? o_O |
| 03:46.36 | Nom- | Creationists are the new whacky christian bible bashers |
| 03:46.37 | Kirkburn|sleep | (to lighten the mood - http://www.explosm.net/comics/967/ ) |
| 03:47.08 | Bleeter | what gets me, is that people don't see this kind of behaviour as objectionable as blowing people up for disagreeing with a certain belief |
| 03:47.16 | Kaydeethree | yeah, they put stickers on the inside front cover of textbooks stating to the effect that "evolution is a theory, not a law, let's have a discussion in class about it, blah blah blah" |
| 03:47.54 | Bleeter | I mean to say, how screwed up was the old USSR sciences because of a certain religious belief on some scientific teachings (can't recall specifics, but I'm sure some know what I mean) |
| 03:54.09 | Bleeter | then again, there's only two things that come out of Texas... so I guess they can't be too concerned with whatever potential intellectual capacity they instill in them ;) |
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| 03:56.30 | ScytheBlade1 | Antiarc, my guild played with Void Reaver and the 80% multiplier tonight. According to the tanks, "dead on" |
| 03:56.50 | Antiarc | We just did him and I forgot to set the multiplier :( |
| 03:56.57 | Antiarc | But I'll see about setting 80% in trunk |
| 03:56.59 | ScytheBlade1 | Hehe, oop |
| 03:57.00 | ScytheBlade1 | *oops |
| 03:57.00 | Antiarc | That's sounding more and more right |
| 04:01.48 | Bleeter | wow, if you thought that texas thing was dumb... |
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| 04:01.55 | Bleeter | http://pressesc.com/news/78225072007/us-senators-call-universal-internet-filtering |
| 04:04.37 | Cide | hahaha, Bleeter |
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| 04:45.20 | Nom- | holy crap |
| 04:45.26 | Nom- | They have 2ms widescreen LCDs now |
| 04:45.28 | Nom- | That's crazy |
| 04:45.35 | Kaydeethree | no kidding |
| 04:45.52 | Nom- | I'm getting one with my tax return :) |
| 04:45.54 | Nom- | Should get enough |
| 04:46.06 | Kaydeethree | ...crap, I've still got a check I need to cash |
| 04:46.38 | Nom- | 22" Widescreen LCD = AUD 429 |
| 04:46.49 | Nom- | That's soooo cheap compared to 6 months ago |
| 04:48.18 | Nom- | That's with HDCP too |
| 04:48.30 | Nom- | Without is around AUD 330 |
| 04:49.03 | Xuerian | Bleeter: <Facepalm> |
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| 05:31.20 | Nom- | LOL |
| 05:31.33 | Nom- | In contrast to that article about the texas idiot |
| 05:31.35 | Nom- | http://www.news.com.au/story/0,23599,22136550-13762,00.html |
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| 07:19.40 | Bleeter | for those who may have been following the story |
| 07:19.42 | Bleeter | http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2007/07/26/1989202.htm |
| 07:23.43 | ckknight | blah |
| 07:24.22 | ckknight | she's not attractive |
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| 07:31.12 | Bleeter | I think that's 9/10th's the point of meeting someone online |
| 07:31.49 | Bleeter | the remaining 1/10th being suddenly discovering you're comitting a felony when you fly half way 'round the planet to 'save them' from their opressive parents |
| 07:33.33 | MentalPower|Potr | $10 says the kid will run away to australia at the first opportunity |
| 07:34.00 | Bleeter | I'll take that |
| 07:34.08 | Bleeter | plain old run away would be a safer bet ;) |
| 07:34.19 | MentalPower|Potr | granted |
| 07:34.25 | Bleeter | gnight mate, rest well |
| 07:34.36 | MentalPower|Potr | yup, gnight |
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| 07:42.58 | sag_ich_nicht | hello |
| 07:43.41 | sag_ich_nicht | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=442970043&sid=1&pageNo=1 <--someone please quote Drysc in this thread with an "o rly?" and a link to this page from wowhead: http://www.wowhead.com/?spell=39957 |
| 07:44.40 | Nom- | http://www.geekculture.com/joyoftech/joyarchives/001_300/119.html |
| 07:44.42 | Nom- | lol |
| 07:50.15 | sag_ich_nicht | (the patchnotes from 2.1.12 claim it's now working for all crits, but i think they lie) |
| 07:52.24 | Nom- | http://www.geekculture.com/joyoftech/joyarchives/001_300/115.html <-- lol |
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| 08:23.03 | Bleeter | oh dear, some poor guy on my realm just got beat up 'coz he was asking for work so he could go to med school |
| 08:23.13 | Bleeter | people told him to give up WoW, there's $15 a month |
| 08:23.24 | Bleeter | he came back with '((erm, guys, I'm RPing!)) |
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| 08:24.48 | ckknight | lol |
| 08:24.51 | ckknight | you on an RP realm? |
| 08:31.29 | Maldivia | Bleeter: tell him to postpone med school till he's level 70, then he'll have enough money to respec :) |
| 08:32.41 | Bleeter | Maldivia: lol |
| 08:32.43 | Bleeter | ckknight: aye |
| 08:33.00 | ckknight | you US or EU? |
| 08:33.14 | Bleeter | US, Thorium Brotherhood |
| 08:36.18 | ckknight | ah, okay |
| 08:36.18 | ckknight | Cenarion Circle for me |
| 08:36.19 | ckknight | also RP |
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| 08:39.07 | Bleeter | RP realms seem to be lacking in, how can I put it.. the annoying 12 y/o git factor |
| 08:39.20 | Bleeter | not that they don't have small pockets, but they're far less common |
| 08:51.25 | ckknight | agree |
| 09:00.38 | Nom- | Anyone seen any announcements about when the PTR voice comms are being added ? |
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| 09:04.26 | Bleeter | Nom-: Last I read 'in a future PTR build' |
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| 11:54.41 | Bleeter | <PROTECTED> |
| 11:55.38 | zenzelezz | it's player versus *environment*, not *mobs* |
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| 11:57.12 | Bleeter | I thought test realms partially existed for the likes of us to test new API stuff on |
| 11:57.27 | Bleeter | pretty hard to test, say, Auctioneer when there's not a single AH NPC to be found |
| 11:57.49 | zenzelezz | I find your lack of faith disturbing |
| 11:58.28 | Bleeter | hell, there's no flight masters either lol |
| 11:58.35 | Bleeter | can't fly to BB to see if they're working down there |
| 12:00.22 | Bleeter | Topper McNabb's still beggin' |
| 12:00.25 | Bleeter | can't see him |
| 12:01.01 | Bleeter | fixes it |
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| 12:12.08 | Bleeter | heh, running around SW with Blessing of Archindoun's pretty cool, too.. can't be bothered testing to see if the buff's actually applying, or just showing |
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| 12:43.36 | Bleeter | anyone on Horde PvE PTR? Looks like the AH is empty, but if you do a search it'll infinite loop |
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| 13:16.26 | |FF|Im2good4u | then your ui is broken |
| 13:19.20 | Bleeter | certainly something freaky's going on. Removed my Interface, Cache and WTF folders. Same result. |
| 13:19.38 | Bleeter | Was working fine when I tried Alliance side :/ |
| 13:20.17 | Bleeter | yup, switch back to alliance. perfect. |
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| 13:38.04 | Bleeter | back to Horde, no banana. Back to alliance, works fine. /me cannot grok, and goes off to pass out. |
| 13:38.16 | Bleeter | gmorn cog|book, gnight cog|book |
| 13:38.42 | zenzelezz | what about the neutral AH? |
| 13:39.04 | cog|book | morning |
| 13:39.06 | cog|book | night |
| 13:39.07 | Bleeter | hmm, everlook transporter ftw |
| 13:39.19 | cog|book | pfft... gadget > everlook :P |
| 13:40.37 | Bleeter | you you you.. gnome engineering lubber! |
| 13:41.10 | zenzelezz | pfft, it's only a 12-minute flight from Everlook to Gadgetzan anyway :-o |
| 13:41.15 | Bleeter | Everlook's fine... though I refuse to pay 228570g72s64c for a Runed Living Ruby |
| 13:42.03 | cog|book | CoT... 'nuff said ;) |
| 13:42.24 | zenzelezz | and AQ back in the day |
| 13:42.45 | Bleeter | Back in the day, had hearth set @ Cenarion Holde |
| 13:43.05 | Bleeter | and, btw, if you've got a gadget portal.. you get a Toshley's portal... just as useful as Everlook ;) |
| 13:43.20 | cog|book | I use toshley's all the time :P |
| 13:43.31 | Bleeter | Area 52 > Toshley's |
| 13:43.48 | cog|book | 2 minute flight :P |
| 13:43.49 | zenzelezz | no we didn't, we had them set to Ironforge |
| 13:43.51 | Bleeter | hell, Toshley's got engineers but no forge? wth's with that? |
| 13:45.13 | cog|book | Area 51 didn't have a forge 'till last patch iirc... |
| 13:46.09 | deltron | 52 :) |
| 13:46.12 | Bleeter | dunno, my engi wasn't my first BC levelled toon, so would've missed it |
| 13:46.30 | cog|book | +1 |
| 13:46.31 | cog|book | >< |
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| 13:49.39 | |Jelly| | cog|book: UBER late Pong? |
| 13:50.01 | cog|book | I was just pinging you 'cause they were making fun of texas... |
| 13:50.11 | |Jelly| | I make fun of Texas. lol |
| 13:50.40 | cog|book | you guys have a creationist as the top education dawg now :P |
| 13:51.06 | |Jelly| | http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=vids.individual&videoid=4504920 |
| 13:52.34 | |Jelly| | I really can't say that surprises me. |
| 13:52.42 | |Jelly| | Kind of glad I'm not still in school though. |
| 13:55.49 | Bleeter | ohhh, |Jelly|'s from Texas... must be a Steer then |
| 13:56.11 | |Jelly| | Delay? Did it take you that long to think that up? |
| 13:57.37 | Bleeter | Nah, still trying to work out this annoying AH PvE Horde issue I've got :/ |
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| 14:04.54 | Bleeter | well, I still don't get it... meh, gunna file a bug report on the forum, and leave it at that. |
| 14:05.35 | Bleeter | there seems to be an issue, at least alliance side, of missing NPCs. Some claim it's due to Horde raid, but as non-flagged players, corpses and mobs are missing as well, I doubt that severely. |
| 14:06.25 | jme | non flagged players just disappear? |
| 14:07.08 | Bleeter | on login, can't see any NPCs, mobs, critters, players. |
| 14:07.14 | Bleeter | relogging 'fixes' it |
| 14:08.08 | Bleeter | what I say above is, that I'd expect if there had been a horde raid that'd killed all the guards, I'd see some non-flagged players wandering around. which I didn't. Also, the rats near Topper McNabb have a fairly fast spawn rate. Didn't see them, either ;) |
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| 14:25.02 | Industrial | yay new WAR newsletter |
| 14:40.39 | jme | Bleeter: that regularly happens to me after i log in, takes a while for models to show up on screen. i just see their shadows at first. |
| 14:40.47 | jme | i just ignore it |
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| 14:41.04 | jme | Industrial: i didn't get it :( |
| 14:41.25 | Industrial | warhammer online |
| 14:41.29 | jme | i know |
| 14:42.06 | Industrial | oh |
| 14:42.08 | jme | Warhammer Online: Age of Reckoning |
| 14:42.09 | jme | Status: Applied |
| 14:42.12 | Industrial | hm, maybe you will? |
| 14:42.17 | Industrial | oh the beta? |
| 14:42.17 | jme | :) |
| 14:42.20 | jme | yeah |
| 14:42.20 | Industrial | me neither |
| 14:42.22 | Industrial | >_> |
| 14:42.24 | jme | :/ |
| 14:42.35 | Industrial | but i want it badly ;o |
| 14:42.39 | jme | yeah i do too |
| 14:42.57 | Industrial | kind of worn out by wow |
| 14:43.08 | jme | i just hope it turns out to not suck |
| 14:43.10 | Industrial | the whole "new and exciting where the hell am I" is gone |
| 14:43.16 | Industrial | long gone |
| 14:43.18 | Industrial | heh |
| 14:43.41 | jme | i'll still play wow, i've got a lot of gear to collect :D |
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| 15:08.58 | cog|work | |Jelly|: some huntard was sharing an AutoHotkey script to automate steady shot |
| 15:09.37 | cog|work | One hunter responded "This post makes me embarrassed to play this class" and a bunch of others followed suit >< |
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| 15:18.30 | |FF|Im2good4u | im a rading hunter i stil palt old school |
| 15:19.59 | |FF|Im2good4u | no macro's i just click the shots i wana use |
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| 15:39.06 | |Jelly| | cog|work: lawl |
| 15:46.00 | Mr_Rabies2 | oh geez |
| 15:46.07 | Mr_Rabies2 | seed of corruption is godly in av |
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| 15:48.58 | cog|work | morning, Cide |
| 15:49.05 | Cide | morning cog|work |
| 15:50.44 | End | Mr_Rabies2: especially considering people run away...FARTHER into the group |
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| 15:55.26 | Mr_Rabies2 | yeah |
| 15:55.37 | Mr_Rabies2 | i just did about 100000 damage or so with it |
| 15:55.46 | Mr_Rabies2 | in one cast |
| 15:55.51 | Mr_Rabies2 | i had it on about 5 people too |
| 15:56.20 | End | I think you exaggerate a little :P |
| 15:56.36 | Mr_Rabies2 | no |
| 15:56.43 | End | 20k in one cast is about the maximum |
| 15:56.48 | Mr_Rabies2 | this is in tier 6 ;o |
| 15:57.26 | Mr_Rabies2 | so i guess about 50k or so, |
| 15:57.32 | Mr_Rabies2 | because it crits for ~2600 |
| 15:58.25 | End | keep in mind, after 10 targets it scales down badly |
| 15:58.41 | Mr_Rabies2 | all i know is my screen was covered in numbers from 1000-2500 |
| 15:58.47 | Mr_Rabies2 | :x |
| 15:58.58 | |Jelly| | HAX |
| 15:59.05 | End | you hit less or equal to 10 targets then :P |
| 15:59.54 | End | (hmm, wowwiki is claiming it's 15) |
| 16:00.07 | End | (but they don't use precise wording either) |
| 16:01.08 | Mr_Rabies2 | i dunno |
| 16:01.13 | Mr_Rabies2 | it seemed like a lot more than 10 |
| 16:01.19 | Mr_Rabies2 | it could have been more than 1 going off at once |
| 16:01.24 | Mr_Rabies2 | it was about 30 numbers |
| 16:01.38 | Mr_Rabies2 | maybe more |
| 16:01.42 | Mr_Rabies2 | i didn't count :P |
| 16:01.49 | Mr_Rabies2 | it was covering my whole screen though |
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| 16:03.06 | Mr_Rabies2 | nothing like alternating between tab and SoC |
| 16:06.47 | End | hmm, I wonder what patch they added the AoE caps was |
| 16:07.19 | End | (they are adding it to additional AoEs they missed somehow in 2.2 I know) |
| 16:08.16 | Kaso | it was one of the TBC beta patches it got introduced in, it was fairly late in the beta iirc |
| 16:08.20 | Kaso | i think. |
| 16:08.34 | End | ah |
| 16:09.07 | Kaso | cos frost mages were aoeing down half of nagrand at once |
| 16:09.09 | End | I remember it being added |
| 16:09.11 | End | haha |
| 16:10.35 | End | well, it's 10 targets, unless they changed it |
| 16:12.46 | End | Mr_Rabies2: how much spell damage do you have? |
| 16:12.56 | Mr_Rabies2 | 907 i think it said |
| 16:13.09 | End | 907? |
| 16:13.10 | End | weak |
| 16:13.14 | Mr_Rabies2 | that's tier 6 |
| 16:13.17 | End | you aren't hitting more than 10 targets |
| 16:13.30 | End | I'm telling you that now |
| 16:13.42 | Mr_Rabies2 | it had to have been multiple ones going off then |
| 16:13.55 | End | I have ~1100 spell damage on my warlock, and those numbers aren't too different from my numbers |
| 16:13.58 | End | yea |
| 16:14.00 | End | probably |
| 16:15.14 | Mr_Rabies2 | i was tearing up the ptr AV |
| 16:15.25 | Mr_Rabies2 | casting it on 3-4 people at a time |
| 16:15.27 | Mr_Rabies2 | freakin awesome |
| 16:15.33 | End | yeah, it works very well in AV :P |
| 16:16.55 | Mr_Rabies2 | and ua works very well everywhere else |
| 16:17.25 | End | corruption should be doing more damage, unless they are dispel happy :P |
| 16:17.35 | Mr_Rabies2 | it keeps them from dispelling corruption |
| 16:17.37 | Mr_Rabies2 | :O |
| 16:17.39 | End | true dat |
| 16:17.41 | Mr_Rabies2 | so i do both |
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| 16:21.14 | Mr_Rabies2 | it's fun to cast on pallies |
| 16:21.31 | Mr_Rabies2 | then watching them nuke themselves |
| 16:22.13 | End | it's when they dispel it off themselves twice...that's just like o_O |
| 16:22.51 | End | put UA, paladin gets silenced, put UA on again, and as soon as they aren't silenced again, dead paladin o_O |
| 16:23.05 | End | how can you be that dumb? :O |
| 16:23.09 | Mr_Rabies2 | oh god though |
| 16:23.10 | Mr_Rabies2 | last WSG |
| 16:23.14 | Mr_Rabies2 | 3 rogues on the other team |
| 16:23.17 | Mr_Rabies2 | STALKING ME |
| 16:23.19 | Mr_Rabies2 | :[ |
| 16:23.28 | Mr_Rabies2 | every time i would res |
| 16:23.39 | Mr_Rabies2 | without hesitation, 30 seconds later i'd have 3 rogues gnawing on me |
| 16:23.49 | End | heh |
| 16:23.51 | Mr_Rabies2 | UD rogues |
| 16:24.04 | Mr_Rabies2 | wotf, trinket, clos |
| 16:24.05 | Mr_Rabies2 | :[ |
| 16:24.52 | End | you'll find CoEx helps somewhat |
| 16:25.04 | End | although I think imp. sprint dispels it |
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| 16:29.27 | Mr_Rabies2 | doesn't help |
| 16:29.32 | Mr_Rabies2 | they just stunlock me |
| 16:29.49 | Mr_Rabies2 | even with 12k hp i can't handle that |
| 16:30.36 | End | yeah, 3 rogues is going to make that difficult? |
| 16:30.51 | End | er, no question mark :X |
| 16:31.04 | End | did they give you the pvp trinket at least on ptr? |
| 16:31.13 | Mr_Rabies2 | yeah |
| 16:31.23 | End | well, that's good at least |
| 16:31.31 | Mr_Rabies2 | i have that and quag's eye |
| 16:31.32 | Mr_Rabies2 | i think |
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| 16:41.14 | Kaydeethree | gah, as I log in to the forums the @hortus post gets locked |
| 16:41.19 | Kaydeethree | bleh |
| 16:42.31 | ScytheBlade1 | Noooo |
| 16:42.34 | ScytheBlade1 | I just saw that too :/ |
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| 16:45.27 | End | I'm curious if it works under Cedega |
| 16:45.39 | ScytheBlade1 | /tar End; /doom |
| 16:45.45 | End | lol |
| 16:45.48 | Kaydeethree | dunno, I gave up my subscription a year ago |
| 16:46.02 | Kaydeethree | wonder if I've still got it lying around? |
| 16:46.19 | ScytheBlade1 | I've just got a problem with the company in general :P |
| 16:46.20 | Lopeppeppy | What did this thing do? *at work not always able to see spiffy forum fun* |
| 16:46.59 | ScytheBlade1 | Lopeppeppy, the "@ hortus" thread was a thread about the WINEers. And how the audio does not work at all. |
| 16:47.09 | ScytheBlade1 | It was locked stating that "wine is not supported in any way" |
| 16:47.15 | ScytheBlade1 | And that was that |
| 16:49.29 | End | hmm |
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| 16:49.51 | End | the latest version of fmodex listed on the fmod site is 4.06 |
| 16:50.16 | End | the dll the ptr client uses claims to be 4.7.19 |
| 16:50.39 | ScytheBlade1 | Internal version? |
| 16:50.40 | Lopeppeppy | Ah.... yeah, I've seen some threads about the new sound stuff, and WINE. I'm not unix/linux enabled/knowledgeable, so I just sorta feel bad that something doesn't work, without any way to really empathize beyond that. |
| 16:50.53 | End | well |
| 16:50.58 | End | Blizzard has a source code license |
| 16:51.00 | Kaydeethree | I read somewhere that blizz has a source code license to fmodex, they can make it show whatever version number they want |
| 16:51.01 | Kaydeethree | heh |
| 16:51.46 | End | I don't think Blizzard would change the version string, but it might be an unreleased version |
| 16:52.05 | ScytheBlade1 | If they modify it at all, I'd hope they change the version string |
| 16:52.43 | End | If I were Blizzard I'd stick -Blizz on the end of the string or something, not change the numbering :P |
| 16:53.04 | ScytheBlade1 | True |
| 16:53.05 | End | ah hah |
| 16:53.13 | End | I see FMOD Ex 4.06.22 (STABLE). Released 22nd June 2007. |
| 16:53.20 | End | and then: FMOD Ex 4.07.19 (DEVELOPMENT). Released 22nd June 2007. |
| 16:53.41 | ScytheBlade1 | Ah |
| 16:54.33 | ScytheBlade1 | Good to know that they're shipping non-stable code in a retail client :D |
| 16:54.34 | ScytheBlade1 | ;) |
| 16:54.43 | End | you could try dropping different versions in I guess, but that probably won't help any |
| 16:55.44 | End | particularly because the api isn't quite the same |
| 16:56.10 | ScytheBlade1 | PTR forums aside, I AM curious if the PTR is down because they're adding voice chat |
| 16:56.41 | Kaydeethree | usually they'd give us some kind of a warning if the ptr's going to be down, that is kinda odd |
| 16:56.43 | Kaydeethree | dunno, hope so |
| 17:00.18 | End | well, Blizzard is using the stock dll |
| 17:00.30 | End | er, I mean no, source code changes to fmodex.dll |
| 17:00.38 | End | s/no,/no/ |
| 17:00.41 | Antiarc|Work | How can you tell? Checksum's the same? |
| 17:00.44 | End | yea |
| 17:01.39 | End | although Blizzard probably pushes changes upstream anyways |
| 17:01.46 | End | if they did make any |
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| 17:02.53 | End | ok, here's something interesting |
| 17:03.00 | End | oh wait, I think I know why |
| 17:05.09 | Kaydeethree | there's the 'ptr downtime' sticky... |
| 17:09.14 | Mr_Rabies2 | oh end |
| 17:09.18 | Mr_Rabies2 | i think i figured out what did it |
| 17:09.27 | Mr_Rabies2 | the tick from one SoC set off the other 3 or so |
| 17:10.00 | Mr_Rabies2 | i didn't realize it popped on any damage, not just its own |
| 17:10.35 | End | that's why I don't like using it with mages who AoE right away |
| 17:11.14 | End | their AoE triggers it so I don't get all my seeds off, I pull aggro, and then have a hell of a time tanking all the mobs :P |
| 17:11.58 | Mr_Rabies2 | http://www.blizzplanet.com/?act=News&id=1542 :O |
| 17:12.07 | Mr_Rabies2 | if i was paul sams i'd be concerned about how tigole was staring at me |
| 17:13.17 | End | heh |
| 17:15.12 | Mr_Rabies2 | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:15.14 | Mr_Rabies2 | noooooo |
| 17:15.15 | Mr_Rabies2 | :[ |
| 17:16.29 | zenzelezz | I'm sure they can extend it if you prefer |
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| 17:30.29 | Kaydeethree | ptr's up, by the way. serverside maint, no patch |
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| 17:48.01 | Mr_Rabies2 | is it up already? |
| 17:48.12 | Kaydeethree | ya |
| 17:48.23 | Kaydeethree | was flying in circles around a'dal for a while |
| 17:48.53 | Mr_Rabies2 | i thought it was going down for four hrs |
| 17:48.54 | Mr_Rabies2 | :O |
| 17:49.14 | Mr_Rabies2 | blizzard actually met a deadline early? haxxx |
| 17:49.30 | Kaydeethree | the server was down for a while before hortus made that post |
| 17:51.42 | Mr_Rabies2 | your mom was >:[ |
| 17:54.45 | Mr_Rabies2 | is there no way to unsummon demons anymore? |
| 17:54.53 | Mr_Rabies2 | i want to remove mine so i can enslave a doomguard |
| 17:54.54 | Mr_Rabies2 | ;x |
| 17:55.27 | Mr_Rabies2 | aha, right click dismiss |
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| 18:16.04 | Cairenn | hi |
| 18:16.13 | Josh_Borke | /wave Cairenn |
| 18:16.14 | zenzelezz | ahoy |
| 18:18.27 | Lopeppeppy | Chips. |
| 18:20.24 | cog|work | Why are spam subject lines so damned amusing? |
| 18:20.43 | cog|work | "Let the big d**k fairy bless you" |
| 18:20.52 | cog|work | "thanks, but ... i'd rather not O.o" |
| 18:23.13 | Cairenn | Lopeppeppy: thank you again for your help on getting that updated. slouken is back from his vacation and has stuck a pin in it now. :) |
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| 18:23.46 | cog|work | EVERYBODY RUN! |
| 18:24.19 | cog|work | that makes it easier... now we don't have to |
| 18:24.25 | cog|work | >< |
| 18:24.46 | Lunessa | Oh man. So cruel. |
| 18:26.11 | cog|work | Cairenn: poof! |
| 18:26.18 | Cairenn | cog|work: thanks :) |
| 18:28.54 | Cairenn | :) |
| 18:29.58 | Lopeppeppy | I'll bask over it when I head home and can peek at the site. |
| 18:30.05 | Cairenn | :) |
| 18:31.38 | Lunessa | What did I miss? |
| 18:31.55 | Cairenn | just an updated mod faq |
| 18:32.20 | Cairenn | Lopeppeppy very kindly helped me give it some long-overdue tld |
| 18:32.28 | Cairenn | tlc* |
| 18:32.46 | ckknight | cog|work: you should be nicer to the big duck fairy |
| 18:32.50 | ckknight | I mean, everyone likes ducks |
| 18:33.28 | cog|work | Yeah, but he makes it sound like the duck is going to anoint me with its poo or something... |
| 18:33.36 | Lunessa | ... big duck fairy? In a tu-tu? |
| 18:36.15 | Lopeppeppy | Ducks do not echo when they quack. |
| 18:36.57 | cog|work | ^ busted by Adam & Jamie |
| 18:37.07 | ckknight | oh yea? |
| 18:37.07 | ckknight | well, ur mom quacks |
| 18:37.47 | Lunessa | Ducks echo. All sound echos. |
| 18:38.21 | Cairenn | Lunessa & Kaydeethree: would you mind poofing yours as well, pretty please? |
| 18:38.27 | Lopeppeppy | But if a duck quacks in the forest and no one hears it, do they echo? |
| 18:38.46 | Lunessa | I have a FAQ? |
| 18:38.47 | Cide | if a forest falls in a tree, does it make a sound? |
| 18:39.18 | Cairenn | no no, your posts in the thread, bumping it :) |
| 18:39.18 | cog|work | you know... the off topic ones? :P |
| 18:39.18 | Lunessa | Oh, sure... |
| 18:39.18 | Kaydeethree | sure thing, just a sec |
| 18:39.21 | Cairenn | when you can, no rush :) |
| 18:39.23 | Lopeppeppy | I dunno, Cide. I swear I watched that Mythbusters episode and they didn't get an echo, but maybe I wasn't paying attention correctly... |
| 18:39.44 | cog|work | Lopeppeppy: they discovered the problem... The quack itself has a waveform similar to an echo |
| 18:39.45 | Kaydeethree | they got an echo, it just blended in with the sound |
| 18:39.58 | Lunessa | Cairenn - poofed - |
| 18:39.58 | cog|work | so it sounds as if it's not echoing when in actuality it is |
| 18:40.10 | Kaydeethree | mine's gone too |
| 18:40.19 | Cide | is an echo an echo if it doesn't sound like an echo? |
| 18:40.31 | Lopeppeppy | Sometimes a cigar is just a cigar.... |
| 18:40.33 | Cide | what is life? why are we here? |
| 18:40.41 | Lopeppeppy | 42. |
| 18:40.44 | Cide | oh. |
| 18:40.45 | Cide | right. |
| 18:41.01 | cog|work | one person applause 4tw! |
| 18:41.10 | Lunessa | what is the sound of one coder coding? |
| 18:41.19 | Lopeppeppy | If that's related to the spam mail you were discussing earlier, Cogwheel, I don't wanna know.... |
| 18:41.29 | N|Tivoli | tick tick slurp tick tick slurp |
| 18:41.30 | cog|work | O.O |
| 18:41.56 | Cide | *lalala* Maybe manager wanna write god damn login page himself... |
| 18:42.04 | Lunessa | ... |
| 18:42.31 | Lunessa | ... got it. |
| 18:42.35 | Cide | ah, good! |
| 18:42.38 | Lopeppeppy | That's my stapler? |
| 18:43.00 | Lunessa | "We fixed the glitch." |
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| 18:43.34 | Lunessa | I'm going to have to ask you to come in on Saturday. |
| 18:45.34 | Cide | heya tom, it's bob |
| 18:46.03 | Lunessa | Looks like somebody has a case of the "Mondayss." |
| 18:46.17 | Cide | mhmm |
| 18:48.15 | Lunessa | Yeah, let me make sure you get a copy of that memo. Yeah, that would be great. |
| 18:51.36 | Lunessa | Why is it that some people are so reluctant to go get an updated version of an AddOn when their current version is broken? I'm sure there's a PHD in that question somewhere. |
| 18:52.45 | Lopeppeppy | They want things mysteriously fixed, without them having to go and download the new version... somehow.... |
| 18:53.44 | Lunessa | Press the magic button for me. |
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| 19:01.44 | foxlit | pssst, self-updating addons, gogo! |
| 19:03.53 | Esamynn | foxlit: sounds like a pipe dream to me :P |
| 19:04.34 | cog|work | It would be possible |
| 19:04.38 | cog|work | though very hackish |
| 19:05.05 | Esamynn | heh |
| 19:05.34 | cog|work | and would only work if someone on a realm+faction updates manually |
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| 19:09.47 | foxlit | battlegroup + faction + pvp :) |
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| 19:12.50 | jiteo | There seems to be an error in my XML, the frame it describes isn't being created. The file is 700 lines long, there has to be some way to know where the error is... |
| 19:13.44 | Esamynn | FrameXML.log |
| 19:13.45 | cog|work | World of Warcraft\Logs\FrameXML.log |
| 19:14.10 | Esamynn | also, load the xml file in a web browser |
| 19:14.25 | jiteo | Didn't get updated. |
| 19:14.25 | Esamynn | for a basic syntax check |
| 19:14.44 | jiteo | Last modified date is 2:58, it is now 3:14. |
| 19:14.50 | cog|work | jiteo: check out http://www.wowwiki.com/HOWTO:_Set_up_Visual_Studio_for_WoW_XML Makes it much easier to work on WoW XML files |
| 19:14.52 | jiteo | And I've reloaded the UI a few times since then... |
| 19:15.27 | jiteo | Loaded it in Firefox too, all seems clear. |
| 19:16.35 | zenzelezz | don't mean to be Captain Obvious, but you're sure the addon itself is being loaded, and that the .xml is listed in the .toc? |
| 19:17.30 | jiteo | From the last FrameXML.log entry: Loading file Interface\AddOns\Alcohol\AlcConfig.xml |
| 19:17.33 | jiteo | So yeah :) |
| 19:17.49 | zenzelezz | but there's no mention of errors in it? |
| 19:18.40 | jiteo | There are, I didn't paste those. |
| 19:19.01 | Antiarc|Work | jiteo: I'll betcha you have a < or > in a script block |
| 19:19.03 | Antiarc|Work | Doing a comparison |
| 19:19.10 | Antiarc|Work | Can you pastey the file somewhere? |
| 19:21.08 | foxlit | It's only < |
| 19:21.18 | foxlit | So you can use >= freely |
| 19:21.22 | jiteo | http://pastebin.ca/634957 for what it's worth... |
| 19:24.33 | jiteo | Install Visual Studio now, btw... |
| 19:25.09 | cog|work | it'll underline any problem spots in your XML with little squigglies |
| 19:25.17 | foxlit | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:25.17 | foxlit | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:25.17 | foxlit | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:25.30 | foxlit | I don't see that closing? |
| 19:25.36 | foxlit | But highlighting suggests it does |
| 19:25.43 | jiteo | The comment? Way further down. |
| 19:26.27 | jiteo | The installation wants a reboot, see you on the flip side... |
| 19:26.30 | cog|work | yeah... that part's borked |
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| 19:32.07 | jiteo | Still installing... |
| 19:36.59 | Antiarc|Work | jiteo: Which frame isn't being created (AlcConfig?) and what do you have in FrameXML.log? |
| 19:37.38 | jiteo | Yeah, AlcConfig |
| 19:38.26 | jiteo | The (outdated, I've reloaded both game and UI since the last write) log says that OnClick isn't a valid handler for a UIDropDownMenu frame... |
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| 19:40.19 | jiteo | Alright, Visual Studio is set up, now how do I get it to tell me what's wrong? I've added the scheme location in my XML declaration... |
| 19:40.38 | cog|work | [12:27]<cog|work>it'll underline any problem spots in your XML with little squigglies |
| 19:41.04 | cog|work | but you should've listened to foxlit before restarting |
| 19:41.35 | cog|work | you have an unclosed comment |
| 19:41.47 | jiteo | No I don't ;) |
| 19:42.26 | cog|work | if your code is the same as what you pasteyed, you do... |
| 19:43.09 | cog|work | You can't have tags inside comments |
| 19:44.47 | cog|work | (last i tried anyway) |
| 19:44.57 | cog|work | But still... did you check FrameXML.log like we suggested? :P |
| 19:45.53 | zenzelezz | jiteo: don't nest comments, it confuses the parser |
| 19:46.18 | jiteo | Well, even with the comment block removed, still doesn't load. |
| 19:46.33 | cog|work | and what does FrameXML.log say? |
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| 19:46.57 | jiteo | http://pastebin.ca/635015 |
| 19:47.00 | ben | How do I find out the current date using the WoW API |
| 19:47.05 | *** join/#wowi-lounge Xapht (n=sdfs@65.48.76.10) |
| 19:47.10 | jiteo | But... That's outdated... |
| 19:48.11 | Xapht | Anybody have a link to a good "First Mod" tutorial? I have a quick and dirty UI mod to write, but dont really know where to start. I just want to dump the names of everyone in a raid to a text box to copy/paste out of. |
| 19:48.25 | jiteo | Game has been reloaded many times since FrameXML.log was modified... |
| 19:50.11 | ben | Xapht: Dump it to chat, use Prat to be able to copy from the chat frame |
| 19:50.52 | cog|work | jiteo: as i said, it will underline any errors if you've set it up correctly |
| 19:50.56 | cog|work | I've found two so far... |
| 19:51.05 | cog|work | There is no such attribute as readonly |
| 19:51.16 | cog|work | And even if there was, you spelled it wrong in one of the spots >< |
| 19:51.18 | jiteo | The readonlys? Yeah, I got rid of those. |
| 19:51.27 | jiteo | Same problem :/ |
| 19:51.41 | Xapht | ben, that would work.. But truthfully. I would like to do more with it in the future, and just looking to get this working as a framework to add-on to. Hence looking for a decent ui tutorial |
| 19:52.04 | jiteo | What's not allowed in a script block? [ and " are OK I hope? |
| 19:52.46 | ben | What is a script block |
| 19:53.59 | cog|work | ben: the stuff inside <OnLoad> for instance |
| 19:56.58 | jiteo | Ok, found Visual Studio's error view - it finds nothing! |
| 19:57.01 | cog|work | jiteo: you should be making templates |
| 19:57.08 | cog|work | you've got a lot of repetitive code |
| 19:58.19 | jiteo | Hrmpf, thanks, I'll keep that in mind. |
| 19:58.28 | jiteo | It doesn't help the current situation though ;/ |
| 19:58.53 | cog|work | It might... lol |
| 19:59.06 | cog|work | I've found when i refactor my code, some things spontaneously begin working >< |
| 19:59.09 | ben | cog|work: Uh, you should probably just xml-escape that. |
| 19:59.15 | ben | err, jiteo should! |
| 19:59.37 | jiteo | Point. |
| 20:01.43 | jiteo | Question though, you notice I have quite a few EditBoxes with a label next to it - can I make one template for all of them and then just set the label's FontString's text, or do I need one template for every different label? |
| 20:02.49 | cog|work | What I would do is make the template include the label and the set the text in an OnLoad script |
| 20:03.23 | Kemayo | Xapht: http://wowace.com/wiki/WelcomeHome_-_Your_first_Ace2_Addon |
| 20:03.37 | jiteo | Heh, smrt. |
| 20:03.41 | jiteo | Such a hack though >< |
| 20:03.48 | cog|work | actually, it's a pretty common practice |
| 20:03.53 | jiteo | Like most of doing UI in WoW, actually... |
| 20:06.58 | jiteo | Well, gonna have to try templates tomorrow, time for work. |
| 20:07.04 | jiteo | Thanks for the help! |
| 20:07.16 | jme | Industrial: finally got that WAR newsletter an hour ago |
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| 20:08.06 | jme | Work is well underway on WAR's final racial pairing - High Elf vs. Dark Elf |
| 20:08.14 | jme | ok, so every other MMO has that |
| 20:09.23 | deltron | I can't wait for WAR :P |
| 20:09.44 | jme | same here |
| 20:12.20 | ScytheBlade1 | Okay, offtopic question. Anyone here run WoW Web Stats for their guild, or contribute logs? |
| 20:12.37 | jme | not i |
| 20:13.17 | ScytheBlade1 | I do, and for one run in question, five people were not listed once in the logs |
| 20:13.33 | ScytheBlade1 | They just simply "didn't appear" in 5MB worth of text, despite being there the entire time |
| 20:13.43 | jme | odd |
| 20:13.49 | ScytheBlade1 | No kidding. |
| 20:15.00 | jme | deltron: did you get the newsletter? |
| 20:15.05 | deltron | hmm |
| 20:15.11 | deltron | i thought I did |
| 20:16.00 | jme | deltron: http://tinyurl.com/2avzaj - marauders |
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| 20:18.14 | deltron | holy shit that is awesome |
| 20:19.53 | deltron | I love the last line |
| 20:21.00 | jme | yeah |
| 20:22.00 | jme | i'm not sure what race/class i'm going to roll |
| 20:22.48 | [dRaCo] | undead rogue, like everyone. |
| 20:22.52 | jme | lol |
| 20:25.59 | jme | "Sewers are rumored to be home to unspeakable things..." (in the capital) |
| 20:27.11 | deltron | battle priest :D |
| 20:31.31 | jme | http://mythicmktg.fileburst.com/war/us/media/flash/WAR-pp_2007-07_painting.html |
| 20:33.12 | deltron | oh wow |
| 20:35.29 | jme | deltron: ingame: http://tinyurl.com/2b92a4 |
| 20:40.32 | mikma | i hate people who can draw like that :) |
| 20:40.50 | deltron | you mean draw well? heh |
| 20:40.59 | mikma | yeap |
| 20:41.04 | mikma | well, draw :D |
| 20:55.54 | Lunessa | That was a neat video. |
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| 20:56.23 | Lunessa | I used to play WH40K a lot, and the thing that intrigued me most about the game was the art. |
| 20:56.48 | deltron | 40k isn't what the MMO is based off of |
| 20:56.52 | deltron | at least this MMO |
| 20:57.05 | Lunessa | I know. |
| 20:57.11 | deltron | okey |
| 20:57.17 | Lunessa | Same artists worked on WHFB and WH40K |
| 20:58.37 | deltron | I'm a pen & paper newbie :( |
| 21:01.01 | Josh_Borke | bye all |
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| 21:23.36 | Regex | Hey guys |
| 21:23.49 | Shirik | hiya |
| 21:24.01 | Regex | I'm umm looking for an addon |
| 21:24.09 | Regex | is this the right place to find one? |
| 21:24.21 | Regex | well, to ask if there is one like this? |
| 21:24.22 | Shirik | you want RDX |
| 21:24.26 | Shirik | ^^ |
| 21:24.29 | Regex | RDX? lol |
| 21:24.31 | Shirik | but yeah what are yoi looking for |
| 21:24.48 | Regex | oh btw, shirik |
| 21:24.49 | Regex | it's me |
| 21:24.50 | Regex | Hannesv |
| 21:24.51 | Regex | :p |
| 21:24.59 | Regex | remember me? |
| 21:25.02 | Regex | Prolly not |
| 21:25.04 | Regex | anyway |
| 21:25.10 | Regex | i'm umm looking for an addon |
| 21:25.32 | Regex | that shows like everything you can buy with BG tokens / Honor points |
| 21:25.39 | Cide | hi, try and type on one line and not\nlike\nthis |
| 21:25.56 | Shirik | You can use \n if you want, just not enter ^^ |
| 21:26.10 | Shirik | hm, that's an interesting idea for an addon |
| 21:26.14 | Regex | Oops well yeah, that was my problem last time too, very sorry |
| 21:26.19 | Shirik | Personally I haven't heard of anything that does that |
| 21:26.29 | Regex | Hehe, I'm a source of inspiration |
| 21:27.14 | Regex | Well, if there isn't an addon like this, would you make one that does that then? |
| 21:27.23 | Shirik | heh |
| 21:27.32 | Shirik | I'd love to, but I already have a million other projects that I'm supposed to finish |
| 21:27.47 | Shirik | For this very reason -- someone comes to me and asks for an addon, then I offer to make it. Rinse and repeat 50 times |
| 21:28.17 | Shirik | Anyone here ever used SolidWorks? (Or AutoCAD, or preferably both) |
| 21:28.19 | cog|work | Where's my critter counter!!!!111 |
| 21:28.27 | Cide | Shirik: exactly why you shouldn't take requests :P |
| 21:28.30 | Regex | ah ok, well i'd say I would help as much as I can, but I don't know anything about lua |
| 21:28.45 | Shirik | And I'd love to take the project, but I have too many going on right now |
| 21:28.50 | cog|work | http://www.lua.org/pil :P |
| 21:28.51 | Shirik | this is actually the first time I've declined a project I liked |
| 21:28.57 | Cide | do contract-based addons instead |
| 21:29.01 | Cide | want an addon? pay me |
| 21:29.05 | Shirik | lol |
| 21:29.10 | Regex | awww, damnit why does this need to happen to me lol |
| 21:29.16 | Cide | I'm half serious |
| 21:29.30 | cog|work | I agree to the extent that you're serious :) |
| 21:29.31 | Regex | with what part are you serious then, cide :p |
| 21:29.33 | Shirik | Cide, do you know the #1 reason Cidan and I reworked RDX? |
| 21:29.42 | Cide | Shirik: no |
| 21:29.51 | cog|work | so you wouldn't have to pay? |
| 21:30.05 | Shirik | Well us nor anyone else |
| 21:30.10 | Cide | Regex: I'm serious about the fact that if people want something but can't do it on their own, they should pay for the service of doing ot for them |
| 21:30.19 | Cide | s/ ot / to / |
| 21:30.21 | cog|work | that was the general "you"... probably should've used "one" :P |
| 21:30.25 | Regex | Well, If someone gets me on the way creating this addon, i can continue it |
| 21:30.40 | Shirik | This is why other languages like french use that distinction frequently :P |
| 21:31.05 | cog|work | lojban > * |
| 21:31.43 | Shirik | So anyway I got to use a new program today, SolidWorks. It is by far the coolest CAD/CAM program I have ever worked with |
| 21:31.44 | Shirik | and so easy |
| 21:31.45 | cog|work | I hate linguistic ambiguities |
| 21:31.58 | cog|work | Time flies like an arrow |
| 21:32.04 | cog|work | ^ has so many meanings it's scary |
| 21:32.17 | Shirik | I like "ghoti" personally |
| 21:32.21 | Tem|Work | what does UnitIsPlayerControlled return for hunter pets? |
| 21:32.21 | Shirik | it's how you spell "fish" |
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| 21:32.33 | cog|work | Shirik: <3 ghoti |
| 21:32.35 | Shirik | Tem|Work: Good question. I would imagine nil (not false nor true) |
| 21:32.46 | Shirik | but there's one way to find out ^^ |
| 21:32.53 | cog|work | enou*gh* w*o*men revolu*ti*on |
| 21:33.26 | Bleeter | jme: nope, no shadows either (ie, not a cache issue) |
| 21:33.52 | Shirik | Tem|Work: I'm testing for you |
| 21:33.53 | Shirik | just a sec |
| 21:33.58 | Tem|Work | thanks |
| 21:34.04 | Shirik | have to log in |
| 21:34.24 | Tem|Work | afk a sec |
| 21:35.03 | Regex | ok, i'm going to try to create something like the battlegrounds reward thingy (maybe anyone wants to help? :p) |
| 21:35.20 | Regex | It's just something like Atlasloot i think |
| 21:35.27 | Shirik | Tem|Work: Are you sure that's the name of the function? |
| 21:35.47 | Tem|Work | oops |
| 21:35.48 | Tem|Work | UnitPlayerControlled |
| 21:36.03 | Shirik | actually it returns 1 |
| 21:36.05 | Shirik | interesting |
| 21:36.11 | cog|work | Shirik: french is pretty bad in that regard too |
| 21:36.17 | Tem|Work | damnit |
| 21:36.18 | Shirik | they have "on" |
| 21:36.27 | cog|work | qu'est-ce pronounced kes |
| 21:36.27 | Tem|Work | I need a way to determine if a given unit is a player or a pet |
| 21:36.44 | Shirik | It returns 1 if the pet is present, nil if it is not |
| 21:36.55 | Tem|Work | (and don't you dare tell me to scan the tooltip) |
| 21:37.16 | Shirik | what about UnitCreatureType ? |
| 21:37.17 | Kyahx | Couldn't you check the unit type? I don't know of many humanoid pets |
| 21:37.22 | Kyahx | type is the wrong word |
| 21:37.31 | Shirik | ALL hunter pets will be beasts |
| 21:37.31 | Kyahx | Yea that :P |
| 21:37.39 | Shirik | ALL warlock pets will be demons |
| 21:37.44 | cog|work | qu'est-ce que c'est que ca? Literally: what is this what this is what that? Meaning: What's that?! |
| 21:37.47 | Shirik | combine UnitPlayerControlled with UnitCreatureType and you're done |
| 21:38.01 | Shirik | "qu'est-ce que" what is it that |
| 21:38.05 | Shirik | makes sense to me |
| 21:38.19 | Shirik | qu'est-ce que t'aimes? What is it that you like? |
| 21:38.29 | Shirik | Anyway I gotta head to dinner |
| 21:38.29 | Shirik | take care |
| 21:38.33 | cog|work | cya |
| 21:42.03 | jme | Bleeter: ah, weid |
| 21:42.07 | jme | weird* |
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| 21:46.57 | seebs | Hey, ckk, is cartographer supposed to give a cryptic error message on startup? :) |
| 21:48.34 | Lunessa | all error messages, by nature are cryptic. |
| 21:49.27 | seebs | This one didn't look too awful, just happened not to be onscreen when xchat finally attached. |
| 21:49.51 | seebs | I just went through and updated all of my mods, and I'm going through debugging things. |
| 21:51.24 | seebs | "Notes: Bad argument #5 to `RegisterNotesDatabase' (boolean or nil expected, got table)" |
| 21:54.38 | seebs | There's only 4 calls to RegisterNotesDatabase. It's called with self, cantDelete, self, and Waypoint... "self" seems likely to be a table, to me. |
| 21:54.54 | Lunessa | Sounds like a problem with your stored notes, or that you need another update. |
| 21:54.57 | seebs | But wait, those are all 3-argument calls, nevermind. |
| 21:55.11 | seebs | Hmm. Could be! I'll look at/nuke my stored notes. The version I'm using is as recent as I can find. |
| 21:57.34 | seebs | Nope, not savedvariables. |
| 21:58.20 | seebs | Cartographer claims to be revision 41974, in Cartographer.lua, the file is -r44896.zip. |
| 22:00.15 | seebs | The backtrace looks to be just plain wrong. Line 999 of AceAddon-2.0.lua is not calling RegisterNotesDatabase. |
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| 22:01.02 | Shirik | <3 chinese food |
| 22:01.36 | seebs | I don't even know what program generated this bug report, but it looks to me as though it may be very confused. |
| 22:01.50 | Shirik | what's that? |
| 22:02.21 | seebs | I'm getting a bug report claiming a problem in Cartographer. |
| 22:02.37 | seebs | It is giving me a file and line number that do not involve, directly or indirectly, the function allegedly getting called incorrectly. |
| 22:02.47 | Shirik | post it |
| 22:02.54 | Shirik | p.s. Lua never lies |
| 22:03.51 | seebs | http://wowi.pastey.net/71369 |
| 22:04.21 | seebs | Line 999 of AceAddon-2.0.lua is safecall(addon.OnEnable, addon, first) |
| 22:05.00 | Shirik | which is right |
| 22:05.20 | Shirik | the error is thrown at ..dOns\Cartographer\Libs\AceAddon-2.0\AceAddon-2.0.lua:25: |
| 22:05.22 | Shirik | not 999 |
| 22:05.33 | seebs | OH! |
| 22:05.44 | seebs | I misunderstood the error; I read the first file/line it gave me. |
| 22:05.53 | Shirik | That error is misleading imho but it has enough differences to differentiate it from a Lua error |
| 22:06.46 | seebs | The question, then, is where should I be looking for the actual call that it's complaining about? |
| 22:07.14 | Shirik | that's a very loaded question |
| 22:07.48 | Shirik | It could be in a million places depending on what exactly is going on |
| 22:08.00 | seebs | There's no calls in this code I can find to RegisterNotesDatabase that have a 5th argument, unless :foo calls are syntactic sugar, in which case, ther's one call that has a FOURTH argument... |
| 22:08.07 | Shirik | The only person that can accurately answer that is the author(s) of Cartographer and the respective libraries used |
| 22:08.20 | Shirik | it is |
| 22:08.31 | Shirik | foo:bar(...) is foo.bar(foo, ...) |
| 22:08.32 | seebs | Oh, wait. No, that's a prototype. Every actual call has only three arguments... |
| 22:08.37 | seebs | Okay, thought it might be. |
| 22:10.13 | seebs | Ah-hah. |
| 22:10.46 | seebs | TrainerFu is calling it with an extra argument. |
| 22:10.47 | Regex | ok, im back, and i have a question! /cheer |
| 22:10.56 | seebs | Sing to us of your question! |
| 22:11.06 | Regex | whats wrong with the: |
| 22:11.08 | Regex | this* |
| 22:11.11 | Regex | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:11.11 | Regex | -- add our very first chat command! |
| 22:11.11 | Regex | SlashCmdList["HELLOW"] = hello_world_command; |
| 22:11.11 | Regex | SLASH_HELLOW1 = "/hellow"; |
| 22:11.11 | Regex | SLASH_HELLOW2 = "/hw"; |
| 22:11.11 | Regex | end |
| 22:11.13 | Regex | function hello_world_command(msg) |
| 22:11.15 | Regex | -- this function handles our chat command |
| 22:11.17 | Regex | message(msg); |
| 22:11.19 | Regex | end |
| 22:11.34 | seebs | SLASH_HELLOW* should be getting assigned OUTSIDE the function, I think. |
| 22:11.44 | seebs | Or maybe I'm confused. |
| 22:12.13 | seebs | This is interesting. Start WoW, log in, get d/c'd immediately, log in again, all is well. |
| 22:13.01 | Regex | well, i first had an error (something with nil value), then i tried /hw bluh, nothing happened, then i did /console reloadui, and i did /hw bluh, and i get this message bluh |
| 22:13.13 | Regex | so, it works, kinda :) Thanks anyway :) |
| 22:13.32 | sysrage | omg |
| 22:13.37 | sysrage | friggin curse changed layout AGAIN? |
| 22:13.52 | Regex | yea |
| 22:14.01 | sysrage | bastards |
| 22:14.11 | Kaydeethree | every 3 weeks, didn't you get the memo? |
| 22:14.12 | cog|work | sysrage: it's a brand new site |
| 22:14.13 | Regex | I don't like the new layout, i'm getting confused in there new lol |
| 22:14.29 | cog|work | give it some time :) |
| 22:14.31 | Regex | yeah, its not curse-gaming anymore |
| 22:14.45 | cog|work | I actually like the new site |
| 22:14.56 | sysrage | makin me manually update NECB |
| 22:14.58 | sysrage | QQ |
| 22:15.00 | Regex | where can i find the all the blizzard functions? |
| 22:15.15 | Regex | -1 the |
| 22:15.16 | Regex | lol |
| 22:15.26 | cog|work | Regex: http://www.wowwiki.com/World_of_Warcraft_API |
| 22:15.34 | Kaydeethree | www.wowwiki.com/API, http://wdn.wowinterface.com |
| 22:15.34 | cog|work | is the best reference right now |
| 22:16.08 | Shirik | I love my battery |
| 22:16.12 | Shirik | "4 min (14%) remaining |
| 22:16.14 | Shirik | wtf |
| 22:16.17 | Shirik | w..t...f.. |
| 22:16.27 | Kaydeethree | reminds me of my cellphone |
| 22:16.39 | Regex | hehe, or my first iPod :p |
| 22:16.42 | Kaydeethree | which reminds me, need to go bitch at my verizon dealer tomorrow |
| 22:18.54 | Regex | guess what, i got a new question |
| 22:19.56 | Regex | when i do this: "message("lol");", it prints 'lol' right, but what if i want to let it print out lol AND the content of the string msg? |
| 22:20.16 | Regex | in php, I would need to do "lol".$msg, but this isn't php :p |
| 22:20.20 | cog|work | Regex: http://www.lua.org/pil/ |
| 22:20.45 | Regex | sigh ( _ _; |
| 22:20.54 | cog|work | More specifically http://www.lua.org/pil/2.4.html |
| 22:22.12 | seebs | This is so very odd. I get disconnected with flawless reliability when I log in... The first time after I start WoW. The second or later is fine. |
| 22:22.26 | seebs | I fear that I have uncovered a race condition. |
| 22:24.12 | Regex | woot, thanks mr cog|work :D |
| 22:24.21 | cog|work | np :) |
| 22:25.47 | Bleeter | seebs: I seem to recall that's not unusualy on first run of the game, as the local cache of items and stuff is being populated. Typically hits people with a higher natural latency. (Though, of course, you could be speaking to some other issue and thus what I just said is worthless ;-) |
| 22:26.35 | seebs | Could make sense, something's bogging the DSL and latency is bad. |
| 22:27.55 | Shirik | Cide got a moment? |
| 22:28.44 | Shirik | Regex: The concatenation operator is .. |
| 22:28.48 | Shirik | much like PHP's . |
| 22:29.02 | Shirik | Don't get them confused like I do, it brings countless hours of debugging |
| 22:30.23 | Cide | Shirik: yes |
| 22:30.24 | Regex | ya, I already found that :p |
| 22:30.39 | Shirik | Okay, question is this |
| 22:30.47 | Shirik | I want you to double check my spec before I comit it |
| 22:30.51 | Shirik | s/comit/commit/ |
| 22:30.53 | Regex | Btw, LUA, is going great, but I don't understand anything bout XML / Frames stuff |
| 22:30.57 | Shirik | http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=dxT0zhxzbZfotcfMqVhM |
| 22:31.03 | Shirik | You're a priest yeah? |
| 22:31.11 | Cide | yup |
| 22:31.23 | Shirik | hold up |
| 22:31.24 | Shirik | tha'ts wrong |
| 22:31.48 | Cide | what playing type is it meant for? raiding? |
| 22:32.22 | Shirik | is holy reach useful? |
| 22:32.24 | Shirik | healing raiding yes |
| 22:32.26 | Shirik | and 5 mans |
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| 22:32.31 | Cide | not that useful |
| 22:32.48 | Shirik | that's what I figured |
| 22:33.01 | Shirik | ok try this one http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=dxT0zhxzbZfLxccMqVhM |
| 22:33.07 | Cide | I would drop holy reach and holy nova, and put the points in holy specialization |
| 22:33.09 | Cide | oh, you jsut did |
| 22:33.13 | Cide | just* |
| 22:33.23 | Maldivia | very useful if you like to smite |
| 22:33.38 | Cide | I'd strongly urge you to get lightwell though.. it's not that great right now, but it's going to be awesome next patch (2.2) |
| 22:33.45 | Shirik | oh is it? |
| 22:33.59 | Cide | every charge gets 100% of +healing over the renew's duration |
| 22:34.14 | Cide | so it ticks for like 1400-1500 depending on +healing every 2 seconds |
| 22:34.15 | Lunessa | ... |
| 22:34.16 | Shirik | if there's major changes in store for 2.2 maybe I'll just wait |
| 22:34.23 | Maldivia | still breaks on damage though :| |
| 22:34.24 | Kaydeethree | so it's finally going to be more than a bandaid? |
| 22:34.26 | Cide | that's the only priest change |
| 22:34.29 | Lunessa | I might have to get lolwell then. |
| 22:34.37 | Cide | or rather, the only one that matters :P |
| 22:34.41 | Shirik | still people would have to click on it |
| 22:34.47 | Shirik | how many people pay attention to when they don't have hp |
| 22:34.53 | Shirik | they just expect to receive heals, admit it |
| 22:35.19 | Cide | true, but I think it's worth a point now anyway :) |
| 22:35.52 | Lunessa | bah... I'm Holy/Disc but I didn't take Lightwell. I decided to pick up Power Infusion for funsies. |
| 22:36.16 | Shirik | I thought about PI but I really didn't want to go that far down the disc tree |
| 22:36.18 | Shirik | I like holy more |
| 22:36.23 | Mr_Rabies2 | man |
| 22:36.27 | Mr_Rabies2 | i shoulda done that |
| 22:36.28 | Regex | guys, in the wowwiki API, there's something like this: GetItemCount(itemID|"itemLink") , what does the | mean? |
| 22:36.36 | Mr_Rabies2 | copied a priest to the ptr for lolsmite fun |
| 22:36.36 | Shirik | especially because my guild has someone who'sgoing almost entirely disc |
| 22:36.42 | Shirik | in which case I might want to drop divine spirit too |
| 22:37.35 | Regex | huhum |
| 22:37.38 | N|Tivoli | Regex it means you can use either the itemid or the link |
| 22:37.39 | Arrowmaster | Regex: for getting the amount of an item you have in your bags/bank |
| 22:38.55 | Regex | ok thanks Tivoli and Arrowmaster (although Arrowmaster didn't read the question very well :p) |
| 22:39.20 | Arrowmaster | no no i didnt |
| 22:39.28 | Maldivia | what irony, someone named Regex asks what | means :) (no offense, just found it funny) |
| 22:40.23 | Regex | Lol, true, I thought it was or, but mostly or is || no? |
| 22:40.30 | Bleeter | would be more ironic if someone called pipe had asked |
| 22:40.53 | Regex | Btw, I hate Regex, it's just a cool nick XD |
| 22:41.21 | Regex | I try to avoid regex amap (when i'm using php) |
| 22:41.24 | Maldivia | Regex: depends, both | and || are or - in C, | is bitwise or, and || is logical or |
| 22:41.51 | Regex | Sorry, i'm not familiar with C |
| 22:41.58 | Regex | aaaanother question (yay) |
| 22:42.23 | Regex | Umm, when I make my addon Fubar, do i need to work with XML? :p |
| 22:42.38 | Regex | addon with Fubar* |
| 22:42.38 | Maldivia | no |
| 22:42.45 | Regex | yaya |
| 22:42.48 | Regex | yay* |
| 22:43.05 | Regex | and when i wanna make it work with Ace? |
| 22:43.07 | Maldivia | everyhting you can du in XML, can be done in LUA aswell (with a very few exceptions) |
| 22:43.32 | Maldivia | but there are workarounds for the exceptions |
| 22:43.43 | Regex | sigh, u makin me confused |
| 22:44.09 | Maldivia | XML are used to define UI elements... in LUA, you can use CreateFrame to get the same result |
| 22:44.17 | Regex | ok, is there a tutorial arround to make addons for Fubar |
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| 22:46.28 | Cide | Shirik: hmm |
| 22:46.34 | Shirik | any thoughts? |
| 22:46.39 | Cide | it looks good |
| 22:46.48 | Cide | if someone already has divine spirit you might want to replace that though |
| 22:47.05 | Shirik | yeah well he's not 70 yet and I don't know how active he'll be |
| 22:47.12 | Cide | and go something like http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=dxT0zhxZfLxccMqVum |
| 22:47.14 | Shirik | so for the time being I'm going to be the DS guy |
| 22:47.16 | Shirik | I think |
| 22:47.51 | Cide | then I'd do something like http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=bxT0zhxzbZfLxccMaVuM |
| 22:50.38 | Cide | >>> (0.16+3/3.5)/(3/3.5) |
| 22:50.38 | Cide | Cide: 1.1866666666667 |
| 22:50.45 | Fin | cogwheel: I figured it out! |
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| 22:50.51 | Shirik | hrm |
| 22:50.52 | Lunessa | http://armory.worldofwarcraft.com/character-talents.xml?r=Kirin+Tor&n=Lunessa - I like mine. |
| 22:51.01 | cogwheel | Fin: cool :) |
| 22:51.06 | Shirik | but is it worth taking one out of spiritual guidance? |
| 22:51.12 | Shirik | wouldn't it be better to take it from empowered healing |
| 22:51.14 | Fin | I'm sure you don't give a flying fuck really, but I finally figured out how it all works, and actually got what I wanted working :) |
| 22:51.15 | Shirik | given that I have DS? |
| 22:51.20 | Fin | I LOVE this feeling |
| 22:51.22 | Antiarc|Work | Hey Fin |
| 22:51.23 | Cide | Shirik: actually |
| 22:51.30 | Shirik | brb I have to move the car |
| 22:51.31 | Antiarc|Work | You're listed in the Prat authors |
| 22:51.34 | Antiarc|Work | I have a possible bug report |
| 22:51.35 | Fin | man I spent such a long time on this, I really was going to give up |
| 22:51.41 | Fin | Antiarc|Work: shoot |
| 22:51.44 | Lunessa | Woot FIN |
| 22:51.51 | Fin | :) :) |
| 22:51.53 | cogwheel | Fin: gratz :) |
| 22:51.56 | Fin | thanks :) |
| 22:52.02 | Antiarc|Work | Prat_UrlCopy:StaticPopupUrl creates a new table for the static popup every time you call it |
| 22:52.13 | Antiarc|Work | It should probably only create the table if StaticPopupDialogs["SHOW_URL"] == nil |
| 22:52.19 | Cide | two points of spiritual guidance vs two points of empowered healing... |
| 22:53.08 | Fin | Antiarc|Work: hmm, yeah, you're probably right. unfortunately there's quite a few modules that really should be completely rewritten (starting with PlayerNames...) - I'll got the URL copy one on my list of shit to look at though, I'll make a note of what you said |
| 22:53.12 | Fin | thanks |
| 22:53.16 | Cide | 8% of +healing vs 10%*3/3.5 of +spirit... |
| 22:53.37 | Cide | I'd say empowered healing is better |
| 22:53.47 | Lunessa | I have to agree with Cide |
| 22:53.57 | Lunessa | Which means I might be re-speccing. |
| 22:54.25 | Fin | Antiarc|Work: this isn't a hint - just letting you know - but you're more than welcome to fix it yourself, if you can be bothered :) |
| 22:54.48 | Fin | oh, hey Cide, I just respecced to swap around those very two talent points |
| 22:55.00 | Shirik | then why not take one more out and put it in empowered healing? |
| 22:55.07 | Cide | I just did: http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=dxT0zhxzbZfLxccMsVuc |
| 22:55.20 | Fin | yeah, well, that's what I did, I took a couple of points out of disc and got 5/5 on both |
| 22:56.46 | cogwheel | death kitteh http://www.reuters.com/article/oddlyEnoughNews/idUSN2531239020070726?feedType=RSS |
| 22:56.58 | Shirik | I still don't know if I can justify getting lightwell |
| 22:57.11 | Fin | that's because it's a complete waste of talent points |
| 22:57.46 | Shirik | not according to Cide post-2.2 |
| 22:57.48 | Fin | well, not complete, but as near to as it makes no difference |
| 22:57.56 | Cide | it ticks for ~1500 every 2 sec in 2.2 |
| 22:58.26 | Shirik | omg |
| 22:58.33 | Shirik | I just figured out I never trained any of my 69 spells |
| 22:58.33 | Fin | huh - I have said I was curious to see how much it'll heal with the patch - that sounds nice |
| 22:58.55 | Fin | that gives me the horn, in fact |
| 22:59.18 | Fin | Cide: what +healing is that with? |
| 22:59.48 | Cide | around 1500 |
| 23:00.28 | Lunessa | mmmm... might be sweet. I'm at +1500 right now, unbuffed. |
| 23:00.42 | Shirik | what's the cheapest it gets to respec? |
| 23:00.46 | Shirik | It will cost me 15g atm |
| 23:00.47 | Cide | 1g |
| 23:01.06 | Fin | and I'd say the points are better spent in spiritual guidance, if you favour spirit over +healing when choosing gear, you get the benefit of +regen as well |
| 23:01.28 | Fin | plus it's better for soloing :P |
| 23:01.30 | cogwheel | O.o |
| 23:01.31 | cogwheel | http://www.microsoft.com/opensource/default.mspx |
| 23:01.41 | Shirik | see that's the argument we just had |
| 23:01.46 | Shirik | I love spirit |
| 23:01.54 | Shirik | BUT |
| 23:02.05 | Shirik | spiritual guidance is not like hunter's combat experience |
| 23:02.08 | Shirik | it does not increase your spirit |
| 23:02.16 | Shirik | it merely increases your +healing |
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| 23:02.33 | Fin | to be honest, I'm a bit of a sucker for those big numbers, +healing is instinctively attractive to me :) |
| 23:02.43 | Shirik | but then empowered healing would be even better |
| 23:02.45 | Fin | +int and +healing + make friends with the droods |
| 23:02.53 | Fin | that's my strategy |
| 23:02.56 | Shirik | Sorry Cide I hate to say it |
| 23:02.59 | Shirik | I think this is what I'm gonna do |
| 23:03.04 | Shirik | http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=bxT0zhxzbZfLxccMaVhc |
| 23:03.11 | Fin | bribe them to be liberal with the ol' priest crackervate |
| 23:03.17 | Shirik | thank you for the advice though |
| 23:03.20 | Lunessa | cogwheel: o.0 The spin machine is on the move. |
| 23:03.41 | Regex | Umm guys, IDK who made atlasloot, but i'm askin myself the guy that did atlasloot did he need to put all the items that are able to be looted from the instances in his code? |
| 23:03.43 | Cide | Shirik: go for it :) it's your choice! |
| 23:03.58 | Shirik | I'm going to be mad if in a month or two I respec to pick up lolwell though |
| 23:04.12 | Shirik | then you have full bragging rights |
| 23:04.15 | Bleeter | shades of the story 'Contact' http://www.space.com/missionlaunches/070726_sts118_postfrr.html |
| 23:05.56 | Fin | Shirik: do you get healing aggro much? |
| 23:05.59 | Shirik | oh god yes |
| 23:06.04 | Shirik | right now I'm 0/0 |
| 23:06.07 | Shirik | 0/5* |
| 23:06.07 | Fin | hum, fair enough |
| 23:06.12 | Fin | oh! jesus |
| 23:06.23 | Regex | uhum |
| 23:06.51 | Shirik | my groups aren't that great :( |
| 23:06.53 | Shirik | pugs ftl |
| 23:06.55 | Antiarc|Work | Fin: Sure, I'd be happy to fix it myself. |
| 23:07.00 | Fin | pugs ftl indeed |
| 23:07.03 | Antiarc|Work | I just tend to not want to touch code without permissions :) |
| 23:07.19 | Regex | Umm guys, IDK who made atlasloot, but i'm askin myself the guy that did atlasloot did he need to put all the items that are able to be looted from the instances in his code?..? |
| 23:07.26 | Fin | Antiarc|Work: oh, hey, great :) yeah, I know how you feel about permissions - that's why I mentioned it (not as a nudge for you to actually do it :) |
| 23:07.31 | Antiarc|Work | *grin* |
| 23:07.32 | Antiarc|Work | Thanks! |
| 23:07.37 | Antiarc|Work | I'll poke my head into it then |
| 23:07.43 | Antiarc|Work | Maybe fix up a couple more while I'm in there. :) |
| 23:07.59 | Fin | oh, feel free, although I'd appreciate knowing beforehand if it's one of my modules :) |
| 23:08.19 | Fin | syl is always fiddling as well, but there's plenty to fix :) heh |
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| 23:08.48 | Regex | ok nvm then |
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| 23:09.43 | Fin | Regex: lack of an answer (probably) just means that noone knows |
| 23:10.06 | Fin | Regex: and, I don't know who made AtlasLoot either; why don't you ask him? |
| 23:10.07 | Fin | or her |
| 23:10.14 | Bleeter | or them |
| 23:10.41 | Bleeter | my guess would be, given what it does, yes it does need to be in there. Whether the data's LoD or not, and whether it should be, is probably a different matter. |
| 23:11.07 | Fin | I actually properly like, understand what's going on with user sent chat messages now, it's such a good feeling after being frustrated for so long :) |
| 23:11.23 | Bleeter | grats |
| 23:11.25 | Regex | ok thanks |
| 23:11.54 | Regex | sigh ( _ _; i'm still strugling with these frames -_-' |
| 23:16.09 | Regex | isn't there any utiliy that generates the XML for you :p |
| 23:16.26 | Shirik | Yes |
| 23:16.30 | Shirik | but I strongly discourage it |
| 23:16.59 | cogwheel | Regex: check out http://www.wowwiki.com/HOWTO:_Set_up_Visual_Studio_for_WoW_XML |
| 23:17.07 | cogwheel | makes editing WoW XML many times easier |
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| 23:19.46 | Regex | ok ty |
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| 23:20.15 | Regex | But I think I should learn how to use the XML and then use this Visual Studio, no? |
| 23:20.32 | Shirik | visual studio will help you more quickly find mistakes |
| 23:21.21 | Wobin | Regex: Also, depending on how complex the XML gets, you might want to generate it programatically in lua, sometimes it's easier to conceptualise in code rather than XML |
| 23:21.23 | Shirik | http://armory.worldofwarcraft.com/item-info.xml?i=31289 |
| 23:21.24 | Shirik | I want... |
| 23:21.40 | Shirik | Wobin: If you did that, why not just code it in Lua |
| 23:21.41 | Wobin | s/might want/might want to consider/ |
| 23:21.43 | Shirik | oh |
| 23:21.54 | Shirik | You mean like generate with CreateFrame |
| 23:21.58 | Wobin | yeah =) |
| 23:22.04 | Shirik | I thought you meant generate the XML in Lua >< |
| 23:22.04 | Wobin | sorry, should have been more clear =) |
| 23:22.07 | Wobin | rofl |
| 23:22.23 | Wobin | Lets add another layer of complexity =) |
| 23:22.28 | Regex | yeah |
| 23:22.36 | Regex | now i'm totally confused -.- |
| 23:22.49 | Regex | why did they need to make it this damn hard lol |
| 23:22.55 | Shirik | You can make frames without XML if you want |
| 23:22.59 | Shirik | Almost none of my frames are in XML |
| 23:23.09 | Regex | ya, but i looked at that, and that looks even more confusing imo |
| 23:23.17 | Shirik | It's all about personal preference |
| 23:23.18 | Shirik | mostly |
| 23:23.38 | Wobin | Sorry, I meant, "If the xml will possibly end up difficult to interpret after the fact (lots of repeated frames/nesting/etc) you might want to consider using CreateFrame in Lua to generate your framework |
| 23:24.12 | Lunessa | Shirik: http://armory.worldofwarcraft.com/item-info.xml?i=31342 - :P |
| 23:24.12 | Wobin | If it's a simple one, then XML could possibly be the answer =) But I find I can be a whole lot more specific and fiddly in lua |
| 23:24.17 | Regex | http://www.wowwiki.com/API_CreateFrame |
| 23:24.29 | cogwheel | Regex: check out http://fara.webeddie.com/frames |
| 23:24.41 | Shirik | Lunessa: That's not fair |
| 23:24.44 | Regex | I did the example, and it did work! But I don't really know how to put text and all that in there |
| 23:24.56 | Regex | cogwheel: Yeah, I just discovered that site :D |
| 23:25.04 | Shirik | I saw this blue on someone :( That purple I'm not exactly counting on |
| 23:25.12 | Lunessa | What's not fair is it was a "freebie" drop in Black Morass |
| 23:26.17 | Wobin | Shirik: I got this! http://armory.worldofwarcraft.com/item-info.xml?i=28604 \o/ |
| 23:27.18 | Wobin | although, god knows I really want: http://armory.worldofwarcraft.com/item-info.xml?i=28771 |
| 23:27.23 | Shirik | Wobin: That's cheating too |
| 23:27.32 | Shirik | I can't go to Kara yet, I'm 69 |
| 23:27.41 | Wobin | Bah, it's only a level |
| 23:27.45 | Wobin | you can grind that out easy |
| 23:27.57 | Wobin | what class are you? |
| 23:28.03 | Shirik | the class that doesn't kill |
| 23:28.07 | Fin | that's a BoE item? ye gods |
| 23:28.10 | Wobin | pally? =) |
| 23:28.24 | Fin | the Scepter I mean |
| 23:29.09 | Shirik | http://armory.worldofwarcraft.com/character-talents.xml?r=Drenden&n=Kimina |
| 23:29.42 | Wobin | wow |
| 23:29.48 | Wobin | You're raid specced and can't even raid =) |
| 23:29.52 | Shirik | =( |
| 23:30.00 | Shirik | I like running instances |
| 23:30.03 | Wobin | I'd so respec for surge at least |
| 23:30.14 | Shirik | I just respecced |
| 23:30.17 | Shirik | I'm not doing it again |
| 23:30.33 | Regex | is this right? the <Script> tag doesn't have an ending tag: |
| 23:30.34 | Regex | <Ui xmlns="http://www.blizzard.com/wow/ui/" xmlns:xsi="http://www.w3.org/2001/XMLSchema-instance" xsi:schemaLocation="http://www.blizzard.com/wow/ui/"> |
| 23:30.34 | Regex | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:30.34 | Regex | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:30.34 | Regex | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:30.35 | Regex | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:30.35 | Wobin | hehe noone goes for imp ds anymore =\ |
| 23:30.37 | Regex | <OnLoad> FaraFrames_OnLoad(); </OnLoad> |
| 23:30.39 | Regex | </Scripts> |
| 23:30.40 | Shirik | ow |
| 23:30.41 | Regex | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:30.43 | Regex | </Ui> |
| 23:30.48 | Shirik | Please read the topic |
| 23:31.05 | Regex | who? |
| 23:31.09 | Shirik | you |
| 23:31.10 | Wobin | You =) |
| 23:31.21 | Shirik | Wobin: That's because they're all shadow |
| 23:31.32 | Bleeter | Regex: Paste Code Here: http://wowi.pastey.net |
| 23:31.48 | Wobin | Nahhttp://armory.worldofwarcraft.com/character-talents.xml?r=Argent+Dawn&n=Rikitikitavi |
| 23:31.52 | Wobin | er http://armory.worldofwarcraft.com/character-talents.xml?r=Argent+Dawn&n=Rikitikitavi |
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| 23:33.45 | Regex | btw Offtopic: Is there a way to set firefox as standard browser for MIRC (firefox is my OS's standard browser), cuz always when i click a link it goes to IE =/ |
| 23:34.01 | Shirik | mine goes to firefox |
| 23:34.23 | Regex | =\ |
| 23:34.38 | Regex | and that Pastey.net doesn't load |
| 23:34.40 | Fin | firefox probably isn't set as the default browser for all types of web thingies |
| 23:34.50 | Corrodias | i'm sure i've seen the answer, but i can't find it in mirc options |
| 23:35.00 | Regex | ya, me neither |
| 23:35.00 | Fin | you can set defaults for .htm files, .html, .url, and links, I think |
| 23:35.11 | Fin | maybe it's something to do with that |
| 23:36.09 | Regex | anyway, it's here: http://wowi.pastey.net/71372 |
| 23:38.06 | Regex | it doesn't have an </script> |
| 23:38.30 | Shirik | it doesn't need one |
| 23:38.53 | Regex | ah ok :D |
| 23:39.15 | Corrodias | you could try setting IE as the default and then setting firefox as the default |
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| 23:39.18 | Corrodias | do this from within the browsers |
| 23:39.20 | Shirik | that's what the / at the end of the tag indicates |
| 23:39.45 | Regex | Shirik: Ah, didn't see that one sorry :D |
| 23:39.58 | Regex | Corrodias: I think i figured it out |
| 23:40.26 | Regex | I think MIRC generates a .url file, which opens then, but FF can't open .url files, so it opens in IE |
| 23:40.50 | Shirik | mirc is not the issue |
| 23:40.53 | Kaydeethree | there's been known bugs with mIRC for years and not respecting the default browser operation |
| 23:41.00 | Shirik | it works fine for me |
| 23:41.12 | Shirik | and we're both on 6.21 |
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| 23:42.49 | Regex | MIRC just hates me cuz i'm newb :p |
| 23:43.39 | Bleeter | Shirik: I disagree. mIRC is *very* much the issue, when ever it's being used anywhere (even if 'successfully' :P ) |
| 23:43.45 | Shirik | well ok |
| 23:43.58 | Shirik | but it is not the cause of his specific problem he is referencing |
| 23:44.34 | Regex | this isn't really a problem :), was just asking if anyone knows an answer to make it go to FF, but nvm :D |
| 23:45.02 | Shirik | also |
| 23:45.07 | Shirik | http://www.nbs-irc.net |
| 23:45.14 | batrick | i love goto hate threads |
| 23:45.15 | Shirik | it will make you .. well |
| 23:46.06 | batrick | http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=507191 |
| 23:48.59 | Kaydeethree | batrick, http://www.xkcd.com/292/ |
| 23:49.12 | batrick | i saw that earlier ya :) |
| 23:49.45 | Bleeter | not too sure whether it was a snort or a guffaw that I did when I saw that originally |
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| 23:50.15 | Kaydeethree | before even seeing the last panel I knew a velociraptor was going to be involved somehow |
| 23:50.27 | Regex | oh, btw, I thought when u do /console reloadui, it would only reload Lua and toc, but no XML..., now I did this, and it refreshed my XML too |
| 23:50.33 | batrick | there are somethings only a goto can do without wasting memory needlessly or impacting performance |
| 23:50.47 | batrick | haha |
| 23:50.51 | Bleeter | the driver init example on that thread is a good one |
| 23:50.59 | batrick | Regex: it doesn't reload your .toc |
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| 23:51.15 | Shirik | Regex: And it doesn't load any new files |
| 23:51.28 | batrick | consequence of not loading the toc shirik :P |
| 23:51.32 | batrick | and that's not really true |
| 23:51.33 | Shirik | not necessarily |
| 23:51.36 | batrick | if you add a script file to your xml file |
| 23:51.40 | batrick | it will load it |
| 23:51.47 | Shirik | I.. don't think that's true |
| 23:51.56 | Shirik | Because if you preemptively add a filename to a TOC |
| 23:52.07 | Shirik | and add the file later and then /console reloadui, it won't load |
| 23:52.21 | Shirik | oh wow, nbsirc finally got the netsplit system right |
| 23:52.32 | Shirik | 192:522:03 » Netsplit - 1 quits: Zicon 2‹orwell.freenode.net ‹-› irc.freenode.net2› |
| 23:52.41 | Shirik | instead of spamming with tons of quits it's supposed to put it all on one line |
| 23:52.45 | Regex | Batrick: ok, then i was wrong :p |
| 23:52.48 | Shirik | but it's been buggy for the last 4 versions |
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| 23:53.09 | Kaydeethree | meh. I'll just stick with the xchat solution: no joins/parts ;) |
| 23:53.16 | batrick | Shirik: what the hell are you talking about lol |
| 23:53.29 | Shirik | If you, say, put in your toc foo.lua |
| 23:53.33 | batrick | "Because if you preemptively..." |
| 23:53.34 | Shirik | But foo.lua does not yet exist |
| 23:53.42 | batrick | shirik i know that |
| 23:53.45 | batrick | i'm tlaking about the xml file |
| 23:53.52 | Shirik | And you load up WoW. If you create the file later then it still won't load foo.lua |
| 23:54.02 | Shirik | I know |
| 23:54.10 | batrick | you can load .lua files without using the .toc |
| 23:54.15 | batrick | ... |
| 23:54.15 | Shirik | but essentially it's the same issue. In neither case do you have to reload the TOC file |
| 23:54.58 | batrick | I think you're line of thought is running parallel to mine |
| 23:55.18 | Shirik | I think so too |
| 23:55.51 | Regex | lol |
| 23:56.21 | batrick | is there a non-suck version of ArenaMaster? |
| 23:56.26 | batrick | because ArenaMaster blows |
| 23:56.27 | batrick | hard |
| 23:56.44 | batrick | i really don't want to make another addon /cry |
| 23:59.25 | *** join/#wowi-lounge Parak (n=wat@user-387hhso.cable.mindspring.com) |
| 23:59.38 | Shirik | well does it blow or suck |
| 23:59.40 | Shirik | pick one |
| 23:59.45 | batrick | hmm |
