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| 00:09.31 | Legorol | PTRs down? |
| 00:11.37 | JoshBorke | i know this is dumb of me to ask but: how can i match ^visuals$ or ^vis$ with the same string.match call? |
| 00:12.10 | Shirik | same call? |
| 00:12.16 | Shirik | sorry I missed before |
| 00:12.25 | JoshBorke | missed what? |
| 00:12.29 | Shirik | oh |
| 00:12.34 | Shirik | misread actually ^^ |
| 00:12.36 | JoshBorke | i want to match visuals or vis |
| 00:12.49 | Shirik | iirc, there is no binary ? operator with Lua patterns, sadly |
| 00:12.52 | Shirik | it would be possible with a regex |
| 00:12.58 | JoshBorke | indeed |
| 00:13.09 | JoshBorke | hm |
| 00:13.28 | Legorol | JoshBorke: so you want to match visuals and vis, but not for example visage? |
| 00:13.34 | JoshBorke | Legorol: correct |
| 00:13.57 | Legorol | if only we had grouping in Lua regex :/ |
| 00:14.00 | Legorol | don't even need ? |
| 00:14.07 | Shirik | it would be something like "^vis(uals)?$" |
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| 00:14.11 | Legorol | yah |
| 00:14.15 | Legorol | but, alas, we don't have that |
| 00:15.03 | Thrae | <+Legorol:#wowi-lounge> if only we had groping in Lua regex :/ <-- this is the way I read it at first |
| 00:15.16 | Guillotine | yup. best you can do is string.match(mystring,"^visuals$") or string.match(mystring,"^vis$") |
| 00:15.17 | Guillotine | lol |
| 00:15.32 | Shirik | um |
| 00:15.42 | Shirik | yeah, for that purpose, I guess that's ok |
| 00:15.50 | JoshBorke | i'm going with : ^vis(%s*)$ then checking to make sure \1 is uals or '' |
| 00:16.03 | Legorol | that's pretty neat |
| 00:16.07 | Guillotine | that works as well |
| 00:16.08 | Legorol | avoids having to do to matches |
| 00:16.17 | Legorol | although you probably didn't mean %s ;-) |
| 00:16.26 | Legorol | string comparison is very fast in Lua, so good solution |
| 00:16.32 | Shirik | I think he meant %S hehe |
| 00:16.39 | JoshBorke | what's the difference? |
| 00:16.43 | Shirik | actually, . will work just fine |
| 00:16.45 | Legorol | %s: all space chars |
| 00:16.49 | Guillotine | %s is all spaces, %S is all non space characters |
| 00:16.49 | Legorol | %S: all non-space chars |
| 00:16.51 | JoshBorke | nope, don't want that :-D |
| 00:16.58 | Shirik | why not? it will act exactly the same |
| 00:17.01 | Legorol | i'd personally go with (.*) |
| 00:17.07 | Shirik | since $ asserts the end position, and then you're testing it |
| 00:17.08 | Guillotine | yah, no reason not to do .* |
| 00:17.09 | Legorol | doesn't matter if it's space or not, and a tiny bit faster |
| 00:17.25 | Shirik | in fact, you don't even need the $ |
| 00:17.29 | Legorol | you can even drop $ |
| 00:17.33 | Shirik | I win! |
| 00:17.35 | Legorol | GMTA |
| 00:17.43 | Guillotine | wow, everyones dropping $? I'll take any extra you have! |
| 00:17.47 | Legorol | :D |
| 00:17.47 | Shirik | heh |
| 00:18.04 | Thrae | visu?a?l?s? <-- giving "visu", "visua", "visual", and "visuals" still isn't good enough? |
| 00:18.18 | JoshBorke | visuls? |
| 00:18.23 | Legorol | Thrae, unfortunately it will also give visul |
| 00:18.25 | Legorol | etc. |
| 00:18.40 | JoshBorke | thrae loses once again |
| 00:18.45 | Thrae | True, but visul isn't a word, and who cares if they misspell it. |
| 00:18.50 | Legorol | JoshBorke: actually i have an idea |
| 00:19.05 | Legorol | why not just do if s == "visuals" or s == "vis" |
| 00:19.12 | Legorol | since you are matching using ^ and $ |
| 00:19.17 | Legorol | don't even need the string.match |
| 00:19.21 | JoshBorke | because of the way i'm passed the string |
| 00:19.35 | JoshBorke | it's for Dongle Slash Commands |
| 00:19.37 | Legorol | well your original statement was you wanted to match ^visuals$ or ^vis$ |
| 00:19.42 | Legorol | the string comparison does exactly that too |
| 00:19.46 | abug | lua> strfind("visuals","[(^visuals$)(^vis$)]") |
| 00:19.59 | Shirik | uh |
| 00:20.01 | abug | lua> "hello?" |
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| 00:20.10 | Shirik | that's... |
| 00:20.10 | Thrae | abug: #luabot |
| 00:20.13 | Legorol | abug: that won't work |
| 00:20.27 | JoshBorke | huh, abug wins |
| 00:20.28 | foxlit | Hm, question |
| 00:20.29 | Legorol | JoshBorke: back to my statement: if your original spec is correct, you can just do it with two string comparisons |
| 00:20.40 | Shirik | uh |
| 00:20.41 | Shirik | it did work |
| 00:20.42 | Shirik | wtf |
| 00:20.45 | JoshBorke | wait, nvm, doesn't work |
| 00:20.51 | Thrae | For slash commands, I see no reason why you shouldn't accept misspelt commands unless that command will definately conflict with another |
| 00:20.52 | JoshBorke | Legorol: the way it's being called i can't :-( |
| 00:20.56 | Shirik | nm no it doesn't |
| 00:21.00 | foxlit | function test() local time = os.clock(); return somethingThatTakesTime(), os.clock() - time; end |
| 00:21.05 | Shirik | it's just stupidly saying it matches |
| 00:21.07 | foxlit | Would second return always be 0? |
| 00:21.08 | Legorol | JoshBorke: are you not getting passed the string? |
| 00:21.18 | JoshBorke | Legorol: only get passed the captured string |
| 00:21.40 | JoshBorke | thrae does have a point |
| 00:21.45 | Legorol | it matches because the expression [(^visuals$)(^vis$)] in Lua means "match a single character, which can be any one of: (, ^, v, i, s, u, a, l, s, $ or )" |
| 00:21.47 | Shirik | foxlit: yes |
| 00:21.52 | Shirik | no |
| 00:21.56 | Shirik | I misread again :( |
| 00:22.17 | Legorol | JoshBorke: but that's fine |
| 00:22.25 | Legorol | you said that you are trying to match ^visuals$ |
| 00:22.38 | Legorol | doing s == "visuals" is identical to string.match(s,"^visuals$") |
| 00:22.45 | JoshBorke | true |
| 00:22.51 | Shirik | foxlit: That's fine. It would only return 0 if somethingThatTakesTime() doesn't do what it says it does |
| 00:23.14 | Legorol | so either your initial specification was not quite correct, or i'm right and you don't need match |
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| 00:23.33 | Thrae | Who cares if someone does /foo barn or /foo bar or /foo barney or /foo barne -- just bind them all to /foo bar. Might as well just look for string.match(foo,"^foo bar") |
| 00:23.36 | Shirik | however, it seems to only increment in integral values |
| 00:23.39 | Shirik | which is rather interesting |
| 00:23.54 | Shirik | but if you really want to see how long something takes, use the debug timers |
| 00:24.04 | TS|Skrom_ | Burn Notice tonight ^^ |
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| 00:24.14 | Thrae | If /foo bar and /foo barn are different commands, you need to rename your commands |
| 00:24.22 | Thrae | Because that's ambigious |
| 00:24.55 | Shirik | I think foxlit is ignoring me :( |
| 00:25.09 | JoshBorke | i think i might concede thrae's point |
| 00:25.30 | Thrae | foxlit is currently working on his bot probably |
| 00:25.44 | Shirik | he asked a question and disappeared >< |
| 00:26.01 | Thrae | JoshBorke: Yeah, that's what I always say -- everyone hates slash commands anyway. You don't need to make them the best damn coded slash commands in the world. Everyone's going to ask you for a good GUI. |
| 00:26.22 | Shirik | RDX.Cid doesn't even have slash commands stil |
| 00:26.39 | Shirik | though some have asked for an /rdx show |
| 00:27.04 | JoshBorke | http://gallery.joshborke.is-a-geek.com/main.php?g2_itemId=1280 <-- like that thrae? |
| 00:27.27 | foxlit | "integral" knocked me out of context :) |
| 00:27.29 | bleeter | Kaydeethree: Wine 0.9.41 has hit the update repositories, updating now |
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| 00:27.40 | foxlit | And you said something along the lines of "Yes", so I didn't look it up :) |
| 00:27.41 | Kaydeethree | huzzah. /pokes yum |
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| 00:27.51 | TS|Skrom_ | what is that JoshBorke? |
| 00:27.54 | bleeter | Kaydeethree: hmm, quite a few mirrors are still missing it |
| 00:27.58 | foxlit | Thraebot: i 30007 |
| 00:27.58 | ThraeBot | foxlit: Name: The Darkener's Grasp; Rarity: Purple; BoP; Neck; +40 Stamina; +40 Stamina; +14 BlockRating; +23 DodgeRating; +27 DefenseSkillRating. [[ http://www.wowhead.com/?item=30007 ]] |
| 00:28.01 | JoshBorke | TS|Skrom_: the gui to my mod LootTracker |
| 00:28.12 | TS|Skrom_ | What's LootTracker do? |
| 00:28.13 | JoshBorke | well, new gui |
| 00:28.14 | bleeter | Kaydeethree: oh, and there's a FF update that's not complete (dependencies), so don't try a complete update ;) |
| 00:28.17 | JoshBorke | it's using OptionHouse |
| 00:28.27 | JoshBorke | TS|Skrom_: http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info4671-LootTracker.html |
| 00:29.42 | TS|Skrom_ | neat |
| 00:30.02 | JoshBorke | yea, it was useful while lvling tailoring |
| 00:30.47 | JoshBorke | i know of at least 2 people who use it so i continue to develop it |
| 00:31.12 | Kaydeethree | holy hell. 764MB of updates to leech. why is yum not getting updates by itself? |
| 00:31.52 | bleeter | Kaydeethree: you've probably selected the openarena update, and some others too |
| 00:32.06 | bleeter | that's... 247M by itself |
| 00:34.08 | bleeter | Kaydeethree: oh, do you mean why haven't you been notified previously? have you turned off the yum-updatesd service? |
| 00:34.23 | Kaydeethree | nah, first thing I checked. s-c-services says it's running |
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| 00:35.01 | bleeter | weird |
| 00:35.18 | bleeter | anyways, I can confirm that 0.9.41 on live gets me at least to the Char Selection screen. :) |
| 00:35.30 | bleeter | doing other updates so didn't try entering the world ;) |
| 00:36.21 | Kaydeethree | odd. I've not been having any issues on live, just the usual ptr mess. |
| 00:36.53 | bleeter | nah, I don't have live issues. was just saying 'if you have probs past char selection, don't come lookin' at me 'coz I ain't saying it works' :P |
| 00:37.00 | Kaydeethree | ha |
| 00:38.33 | Industrial | Hows this: http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=MZxGhsfroxzioVxIzc |
| 00:39.10 | bleeter | Kaydeethree: can't test against PTR, realms are down :( |
| 00:40.02 | Kaydeethree | ya, realized that shortly after I asked. hopefully the new build getting pushed will help |
| 00:41.11 | bleeter | are you playing in OGL or D3D mode? I know last time we chatted, D3D had improved considerably, but personally I didn't think it was ready for 24/7 playing. I'd get the occasional hang when switching toons. |
| 00:41.23 | bleeter | amongst other minor irritations |
| 00:41.37 | Shirik | I never even tried d3d through wine |
| 00:41.42 | Shirik | it never worked for me |
| 00:41.54 | Shirik | well, s/tried/got d3d to work/ |
| 00:41.55 | bleeter | Shirik: until Wine 0.9.39, it was pretty awful |
| 00:42.06 | bleeter | number of hoops required to leap through, etc. |
| 00:42.11 | Shirik | I tried it maybe twice then fell back to opengl |
| 00:42.12 | Kaydeethree | I still play in ogl |
| 00:42.53 | bleeter | damnit, I wish the A/V configure dialog was available outside of the playing world |
| 00:43.09 | JoshBorke | edit the file directly? |
| 00:43.19 | bleeter | drives me crazy that I have to enter world to 'test|set' stuff |
| 00:44.09 | Shirik | RTFPN: http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=330713563&sid=1 for those that haven't seen |
| 00:44.14 | bleeter | JoshBorke: that's not really the point. A 'standard' user should have to open up a text editor to switch the game from Fullscreen to Windowed mode, as an example |
| 00:44.18 | Shirik | I guess I'm 5 days late, so shoot me |
| 00:44.19 | bleeter | *shouldn't |
| 00:44.32 | JoshBorke | bleeter: i agree :-) |
| 00:45.00 | bleeter | This specific case, I wanna see what the PTR thinks about the new D3D/ALSA code in wine. But without a realm up, can't tell ;) |
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| 00:46.13 | bleeter | which, boils down to, I should not need a server to be up and running so that I can use a dialog to change a local only setting |
| 00:46.27 | bleeter | applicable to any app, really |
| 00:47.06 | JoshBorke | suggest it :-) |
| 00:48.14 | bleeter | I'll have to phrase it in terms of 'reducing load on your infrastructure' |
| 00:48.24 | bleeter | rather than 'this is pissing me off in Wine' |
| 00:48.38 | Kaydeethree | hahaha |
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| 00:49.40 | Kaydeethree | any ubuntu users or knowledgeable people mind helping me get someone up and running in #wowwiki? I can't remember what the ati proprietary graphics driver package is called |
| 00:49.54 | Kyahx | frglx iirc |
| 00:50.02 | Shirik | yuck |
| 00:50.10 | Shirik | linux is the reason I went to nvidia tbh |
| 00:50.16 | Kyahx | the newest ubuntu should auto-install them through the restricted driver manager |
| 00:50.39 | Kaydeethree | ya, but I tried to have the guy apt-get search flgrx and he responded 'search' is an invalid operation. |
| 00:50.44 | Kaydeethree | been too long since I've tried to use apt-get |
| 00:51.04 | Kyahx | I'll join the channel |
| 00:51.24 | JoshBorke | apt-search flgrx |
| 00:57.16 | bleeter | ok, gunna try some D3D playing... see how we go. |
| 00:58.58 | bleeter | and fail on an infinite loop while trying to enter world |
| 00:59.07 | bleeter | fixme:d3d:IWineD3DQueryImpl_GetData >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> GL_INVALID_OPERATION (0x502) from glGetQueryObjectuivARB(GL_QUERY_RESULT_AVAILABLE |
| 00:59.56 | Shirik | =( |
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| 01:07.44 | Kaydeethree | woo venture brothers |
| 01:09.29 | Shirik | that show |
| 01:09.30 | Shirik | is so bad |
| 01:10.25 | |Jelly| | That show. Wins so hard. |
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| 01:13.52 | Shirik | no |
| 01:13.56 | Shirik | it is the opposite of wins so hard |
| 01:14.08 | Shirik | it doesn't make sense, it's horribly drawn, it's.... |
| 01:14.15 | Shirik | everything that entertainment is not supposed to be |
| 01:38.24 | JoshBorke | nn all |
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| 01:51.51 | Shirik | wtf... |
| 01:52.01 | Shirik | I ghosted shirik and it automatically /nick'ed me |
| 01:52.04 | Shirik | since when does that happen |
| 01:52.59 | Kaydeethree | depends on your client/scripts |
| 01:53.05 | Kaydeethree | and ooh, ptr's up. 12.6MB patch |
| 01:53.47 | Lunessa | ... need liquor |
| 01:54.36 | Kaydeethree | all I've got is some beer in the fridge |
| 01:55.15 | Lunessa | Pass me one, will you? This is turning into one of *those* days. |
| 01:55.26 | Kaydeethree | should I tab open the UI forum? |
| 01:55.51 | Shirik | Kaydeethree: That's just it, I haven't change anything |
| 01:55.56 | Shirik | and it's never done that before |
| 01:55.58 | Lunessa | Nah, it's "oh noes teh guild drama" |
| 01:56.14 | Shirik | to be honest I think it's just that I habitually typed /nick Shirik and it just happened late enough that I completely forgot >< |
| 01:56.55 | Kaydeethree | ahahaha... cro threadstrong's yelling at the ogre now |
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| 02:04.38 | Kaydeethree | new ptr's up. diffs at http://spyglass-server.com/wowints/0.2.0.6932-6983.diff and http://spyglass-server.com/wowints/2.1.3.6898-0.2.0.6983.diff |
| 02:22.04 | Kaydeethree | local invoiceType, itemName, playerName, bid, buyout, deposit, consignment, moneyDelay, etaHour, etaMin = GetInboxInvoiceInfo(InboxFrame.openMailID) |
| 02:22.04 | Kaydeethree | hrm |
| 02:22.34 | Thrae | !api getinboxinvoiceinfo |
| 02:22.36 | ThraeBot | Thrae: Could not find a relevant page. Perhaps you could be so kind as to create one? http://www.wowwiki.com/API_getinboxinvoiceinfo |
| 02:22.49 | Thrae | Ah, new function |
| 02:22.58 | Kaydeethree | yup. just got changed in the last ptr build too |
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| 02:31.18 | Wobwork | hm, interesting on that api call |
| 02:32.04 | Kaydeethree | fallout from the 'gold now takes an hour too' change. it's all over the auction house as well |
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| 02:33.24 | Wobwork | Kaydeethree: hehe people using the auctionhouse to shift gold, now? |
| 02:33.40 | Wobwork | That's one way of doing it, I guess |
| 02:33.45 | Wobwork | It's fairly secure too |
| 02:34.57 | Thrae | Wobwork: Using the Auction House to shift gold has been done for about as long as I've been playing WoW...which has been since 1.3 or so I think |
| 02:35.07 | Thrae | Maybe 1.4 or 1.5, I can't remember |
| 02:35.26 | Thrae | Wobwork: When I first started, I always wondered why there were grey candles up for 500 gold. |
| 02:36.32 | Lunessa | It works especially well for transfering items/cash to the opposite faction. |
| 02:36.46 | Lunessa | Though the fee is steep. |
| 02:37.02 | Kaydeethree | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:37.07 | Kaydeethree | " FYI, we're working on something for 2.3 to help make /stopcasting lag workarounds unnecessary." |
| 02:37.26 | Kaydeethree | holy hell, they may finally be implementing a 1-deep server-side queue |
| 02:39.43 | Nom- | E! Gads! |
| 02:40.06 | Lunessa | ... Soulken... A prince amouong pirates! |
| 02:41.16 | cog|book | ZOMFG |
| 02:43.29 | Kaydeethree | whoa, that was quick |
| 02:43.34 | Kaydeethree | and my idea got shot down in a flash |
| 02:44.03 | Kaydeethree | wonder what they're implementing, though? |
| 02:44.29 | Lunessa | Careful, or he mayt implement code to check for YOU and make your repairs cost an extra 20%. |
| 02:45.06 | Lunessa | ... *headdesk* http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=383420882&sid=1 |
| 02:45.36 | Kaydeethree | how can I answer that and not sound like a total asshole? |
| 02:45.56 | Lunessa | See my reply. |
| 02:47.06 | cog|book | W. T. F. {interrobang} |
| 02:47.51 | Lunessa | I need an {interrobang} to go with my elipses |
| 02:48.05 | cog|book | <3 … |
| 02:48.18 | Nom- | Ahhh...looking forward to this afternoon |
| 02:48.25 | Nom- | My Bosses' Bosses' Boss is leaving today |
| 02:48.43 | Nom- | So we're all going to the pub in about an hour or so, and it's highly likely we won't be back :P |
| 02:48.51 | Lunessa | Just 40 minutes left in my "work-day" |
| 02:48.58 | Kaydeethree | hahaha... was gonna suggest "celebration in the break room?" |
| 02:49.16 | Nom- | Given that I only started work 2 hours ago |
| 02:49.24 | Nom- | It's not a bad way to spend a Friday :P |
| 02:49.31 | Kaydeethree | not at all |
| 02:49.43 | cog|book | ROFL! My wife got a book on CD called Master Harper of Pern and Itunes--sry... iTunes--wanted to import it as "South Park Mexican - Dope House Six" |
| 02:50.04 | Lunessa | lol |
| 02:50.52 | Thrae | cog|book: That's funny, however, what I find funnier is that you couldn't even stop mid-typing to backspace and fix your typo, you just fixed it in the same message ^^;;; |
| 02:51.35 | cog|book | It was a conscious decision… {irony mark} |
| 02:51.51 | cog|book | {look! more ellipses!} |
| 02:52.02 | Lunessa | ... |
| 02:52.13 | cog|book | no, … |
| 02:52.19 | cog|book | :P |
| 02:52.54 | cog|book | AutoHotKey 4tw! (<3 sag_ich_nicht ) |
| 02:53.42 | Nom- | http://www.lossendil.com/wws/?report=nhkhfrqgje1v5 <-- check out gruul try 2... not bad for me, given i've got AH bought crap for like 2 or 3 slots |
| 02:56.32 | Nom- | I'd use an iMac if (1) I could afford it, and (2) they had a decent selection of games |
| 02:56.51 | Nom- | Until more places start porting games to Mac (on release date) i'll never switch |
| 02:57.21 | Thrae | I'd use an iMac if 1) I had lots of extra money, and 2) If I had lots of extra money, and 3) If I got hit on the head, lost my knowledge of Unix, Linux, Solaris, BSD, and Windows, and then got lots of money |
| 02:57.28 | Nom- | That's the most annoying part... I remember back when I was playing Quake 1 on the Mac...it'd be weeks between a PC Upgrade of the client and the Mac release |
| 02:57.51 | Nom- | lol... Mac's aren't that bad...just the available software selection is horrid |
| 02:58.16 | cog|book | it's gotten a lot better since OSX |
| 02:58.23 | cog|book | since it IS unix |
| 02:58.42 | cog|book | (hell, I'm just glad it uses memory protection at all now) |
| 02:59.08 | Lunessa | It is, OSX is certainly a very nice mechanics upgrade while maintaining the Human Interface Guidelines that made macs popular in the first place. |
| 02:59.10 | Thrae | cog|book: It is "Certified as a Unix Operating System", but it isn't Unix. Unix is Unix ;) |
| 02:59.37 | Lunessa | And... if you desire Windows games... dual boot? |
| 02:59.45 | Lunessa | Or use Parallels? |
| 02:59.46 | cog|book | parallels |
| 03:00.08 | cog|book | yeah... the fact that they're intel now makes a difference too |
| 03:00.12 | Lunessa | Parallels is... sexy. |
| 03:00.28 | cog|book | but then, so is cedega, for what it does :P |
| 03:00.39 | Thrae | Really, so much money though...might as well just go take Linux 101 and save like $1000, make a Windows / Linux dual boot. |
| 03:00.41 | cog|book | and actually, vanilla wine plays WoW very nicely |
| 03:01.11 | Lunessa | Yup. I don't worry much about platform. I like pretty much everything, and am more or less comfortable in any O/S. |
| 03:01.52 | Thrae | Not to mention, if you just want to make Bill Gates poor, buying a Mac is not a good way to do it -- Bill Gates already has stock in Apple, I believe ;) |
| 03:02.14 | cog|book | I'm getting to that point… I still get pretty annoyed at MS sometimes though… And I do give them a chance… I went straight internet explorer for about 3 weeks but went back to firefox |
| 03:02.25 | Lunessa | Depends on how many funds he lets his advisors buy/manage without his direct input. |
| 03:02.44 | Lunessa | Firefox ... well, firefox is love. |
| 03:03.04 | Thrae | Lunessa: Bill Gates shows up to some Apple stockholder meetings |
| 03:03.30 | Lunessa | I wouldn't be shocked. Microsoft the company made an investment in Apple in the late 90s. |
| 03:03.41 | Thrae | Firefox is love in some ways, and teh suck in other ways. It has very nasty performance issues and some bugs which are waaaaay too old, yet fixed in Seamonkey. |
| 03:03.53 | Thrae | I use Firefox, because I like it more then Opera. |
| 03:03.58 | TS|Skrom_ | good Burn Notice again tonight ^^, not quite as good as the others imo |
| 03:04.09 | TS|Skrom_ | less spying/trapping/mcguyvering in this one |
| 03:04.18 | Lunessa | ... |
| 03:04.23 | TS|Skrom_ | muhahaha |
| 03:04.26 | cog|book | I wanted to like Opera… It had a nasty font rendering bug that was a deal breaker for me |
| 03:05.12 | Lunessa | I wanted to like it too, but I got sick of adding code to every CSS to work around it. |
| 03:05.29 | cog|book | ?? |
| 03:05.41 | ScytheBlade1 | Hehe |
| 03:05.44 | ScytheBlade1 | Threat/Omen bugs ftw |
| 03:05.49 | Lunessa | The "play nice with Opera" fix for multi-collum layouts. |
| 03:05.53 | ScytheBlade1 | I wand Void Reaver and suddenly I've got 120k threat |
| 03:05.57 | ScytheBlade1 | That got a few wtf's |
| 03:06.24 | cog|book | I thought opera was known for its extensive CSS support :> |
| 03:06.49 | Thrae | ScytheBlade1: Wands need to be nerfed imo -- 120,000 crits on Void Reavers are just insane! |
| 03:06.55 | Lunessa | I quit loving Opera 3 years ago. It might have gotten better. |
| 03:07.00 | ScytheBlade1 | Thrae, no joke |
| 03:07.09 | cog|book | Opera 9 is nice |
| 03:07.11 | ScytheBlade1 | Thrae, almost makes me wish I specced wands |
| 03:07.39 | cog|book | the next version is supposed to have full support for the CSS selectors (v3 iirc) |
| 03:07.44 | Thrae | ScytheBlade1: Yeah seriously, I wonder wtf is up with wands when they're doing more damage then a Hunter does...and each Hunter autoshot still takes up a bullet |
| 03:08.05 | Thrae | s:bullet:ammo: |
| 03:08.14 | Lunessa | Might have to give it some more attention then. |
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| 03:16.01 | cog|book | Lunessa: fwiw http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=07/06/22/2239218 |
| 03:18.46 | Lunessa | cog|book: Thanks. |
| 03:19.15 | Kaydeethree | eesh.. 764MB later, yum's finally done downloading updates. |
| 03:20.39 | Lunessa | ... lazy paladins ftl |
| 03:21.49 | Thrae | Kaydeethree: Yum == "yum yum, I like your bandwidth! Ooo, and this HDD space..." |
| 03:23.44 | Lunessa | "Bandwidth? We doan neeed no steeenkin' bandwidth!" |
| 03:24.58 | Kaydeethree | I'm just glad my connection stayed up long enough to get it all |
| 03:25.04 | Kaydeethree | was down for 7 hours today |
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| 03:32.52 | bleeter | Kaydeethree: great, now update your PTR ;) |
| 03:33.05 | bleeter | another 12.6MB lol |
| 03:33.30 | Kaydeethree | it's already been updated. I've got .diffs of the interface changes up. still wating on yum to finish updating... 170/632 |
| 03:33.56 | bleeter | ah, fair nuff |
| 03:34.00 | bleeter | aye... I'm looking forward to when they start using deltas for the updates (yum, that is) |
| 03:35.01 | Lunessa | Later all. |
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| 03:38.55 | Rhaene | Does anyone know what I would hook in order to modify / add to the party member portrait right click dropdown menu? I cant seem to figure it out |
| 03:40.54 | bleeter | Kaydeethree: I've managed to enter world, so the new PTR and the new Wine aren't immediately obvious as crash-dummies :) |
| 03:41.18 | Kaydeethree | nice. still using oss? |
| 03:42.51 | bleeter | think so, lemme get out and check/test etc. |
| 03:44.12 | Bam__ | what's this yummi thing you talk about? |
| 03:44.18 | bleeter | yup, ALSA's still bork |
| 03:44.34 | bleeter | Bam__: the update tool for Fedora Linux (as well as Yellow Dog, CentOS and some others) |
| 03:44.38 | Kaydeethree | Bam__, software updater for fedora linux |
| 03:44.44 | Bam__ | ah ok |
| 03:45.01 | bleeter | might just try ALSA in D3D mode for kicks |
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| 03:45.07 | Bam__ | OS X by any chance too? :P |
| 03:45.14 | Kaydeethree | nope |
| 03:45.27 | Kaydeethree | just rpm-based linux distros afaik |
| 03:45.34 | Bam__ | ok |
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| 03:46.24 | bleeter | Kaydeethree: no joy under D3D/ALSA here, either |
| 03:46.39 | bleeter | same ol' 'draw the window, lock the app hard' |
| 03:46.45 | Kaydeethree | blah. I /really/ don't want to have to resort to aoss |
| 03:47.36 | bleeter | hmm, I wonder if changing the Hardware Accel from Full to Emulated, or something equally crazy, may help |
| 03:47.40 | bleeter | doubt it, somehow |
| 03:48.05 | Kaydeethree | just about every combination of using the dropdowns and the checkbox I've tried, no dice |
| 03:48.12 | bleeter | ah |
| 03:48.15 | bleeter | fixme:mixer:ALSA_MixerInit No master control found, disabling mixer |
| 03:48.19 | bleeter | would kinda seal it's fate |
| 03:48.47 | Kaydeethree | you have a busted .dmixrc? |
| 03:49.21 | bleeter | if by 'busted' you mean 'non-existant'.. then I guess I do ;) |
| 03:49.59 | Kaydeethree | nah. the system-default's supposed to work fine. before dmix was enabled by default (back in fc4 or so?) I had to have one to get it working properly |
| 03:50.10 | Kaydeethree | er, the one that fedora ships, at least |
| 03:51.03 | art3mis | wheeeeee getting a new laptop on tuesday |
| 03:51.14 | cog|book | nice :) |
| 03:52.46 | bleeter | oO when did they open premades up for 2.2 PTR? |
| 03:52.59 | Kaydeethree | today |
| 03:53.07 | Kaydeethree | char transfer's been having issues |
| 03:53.35 | cog|book | :) I transfered my wife's mule to the ptr 4 times so I could get myself an epic flyer >< |
| 03:53.48 | art3mis | http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=2984871&CatId=1902 |
| 03:53.50 | Kaydeethree | first time in a year. now that's all the 'gimmeh premades' ilk will be asking for for the next year |
| 03:54.03 | Thrae | cog|book: you...oh. For a minute there, I thought you paid $100 for a mount. |
| 03:54.23 | art3mis | at least hes not whoring himself to get one ;P |
| 03:54.43 | art3mis | and a girl |
| 03:55.16 | bleeter | Kaydeethree: I wonder if it was to placate people re: Season 2 Mage foo |
| 03:55.29 | Kaydeethree | meh |
| 03:55.31 | bleeter | next person who mentions Orc shoulders, tho, gets a stab in the face from me |
| 03:55.44 | Kaydeethree | they got fixed in the current build |
| 03:56.02 | Kaydeethree | so /hopefully/ that bitching will die down in the next few days |
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| 04:36.41 | bleeter | new hotfix: - Warlocks can no longer summon players while in a Battleground. |
| 04:37.11 | Kaydeethree | and general goes up in flames |
| 04:37.13 | bleeter | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=388001160&pageNo=1&sid=1#7 |
| 04:39.10 | bleeter | Kaydeethree: um, and that's different to usualy.. how? ;) :P |
| 04:39.13 | bleeter | -y |
| 04:39.40 | Kaydeethree | it's the new rant of the day |
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| 04:48.27 | Kaydeethree | ah, I figured out why yum wasn't getting updates even though updatesd is running... "do_update = no" actually does what it says |
| 04:49.25 | bleeter | hah |
| 04:49.54 | Kaydeethree | wonder how the config file got set up to do that? /ponder |
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| 05:19.00 | bleeter | question from a guildie: 'How's 2.2 PTR look' |
| 05:19.13 | bleeter | reply from me: 'IF AH looks the same as always, 2.2 is crack' |
| 05:20.47 | Wobwork | bleeter: so 2.2 is fine with wine? =) |
| 05:21.20 | bleeter | Wobwork: yup, 'cept for the ALSA crap |
| 05:25.22 | Wobwork | ? |
| 05:25.37 | Wobwork | the stuff blizz is putting in for the inline chat? |
| 05:26.08 | Kaydeethree | the entire sound system got rewritten, alsa's choking, oss needs some tweaking in order to get it to run (I've yet to succesfully hear any sound in the ptr...) |
| 05:26.50 | Wobwork | QQ |
| 05:28.35 | bleeter | Kaydeethree: meh, don't listen to Wobwork.... he's a *pidgin* user! ewww! |
| 05:28.54 | Wobwork | Did I say something? |
| 05:28.57 | Wobwork | huh? |
| 05:28.59 | Wobwork | did I? =P |
| 05:29.09 | Thrae | Wobwork: You seem to do a lot of IRC at work. |
| 05:29.13 | Wobwork | It's true |
| 05:29.25 | Thrae | What is your job? |
| 05:29.28 | bleeter | Wobwork: no doubt complaining about the trains, or the cold 20 degrees C, or something... :P |
| 05:29.30 | Wobwork | Programmer =) |
| 05:29.52 | Wobwork | actually I don't have too much problem with the trains, as I come into work around 10am =) |
| 05:29.54 | Thrae | Ahh, you're probably sitting there waiting for something to compile a lot of the time. |
| 05:30.08 | Wobwork | well, at the moment, for someone else to finish their part of the project |
| 05:30.12 | Thrae | Heh |
| 05:30.21 | Wobwork | and for the water to boil so I can make some tea |
| 05:30.33 | Thrae | What time is it over there? |
| 05:30.40 | Wobwork | 3:30pm atm |
| 05:30.45 | bleeter | for the record, there's a debate kicking around at the moment as to whether trains in Sydney are as bad, or worse, than those in England (punctuality, fitness for service, etc. etc.) |
| 05:30.56 | Thrae | Ahh, gotcha. |
| 05:31.00 | Wobwork | sydney trains are kinda sliding down atm =) |
| 05:31.10 | Thrae | It's 1:30am EST, or 1:30am GMT-5. |
| 05:31.15 | Wobwork | granted, our rail network is a little bit more complex |
| 05:31.16 | bleeter | I thought they peaked around 2000.. strangely enough ;) |
| 05:31.17 | Wobwork | than the tube |
| 05:31.24 | Thrae | This is not "optimal work hours" for me. |
| 05:31.27 | Wobwork | hehe odd that =) |
| 05:31.46 | Thrae | Well, optimal for getting paid to work. I don't want to get paid to work at my -real- optimal working hours, that would suck. |
| 05:31.55 | Wobwork | It proves we can put on a good show, but maintaining it? =P |
| 05:32.11 | bleeter | that's what sydney is a to me... a great show, but long term.. ugh |
| 05:32.20 | bleeter | :P |
| 05:32.27 | Wobwork | hehe |
| 05:32.30 | Wobwork | I love living here though |
| 05:36.57 | art3mis | heh was watching national geogrphic today |
| 05:37.12 | art3mis | and according to thier deadly animals in australian list the only safe place if the gold coast |
| 05:37.23 | art3mis | like directly in the middle and insland about 5 miles |
| 05:40.54 | art3mis | hrm |
| 05:41.19 | Wobwork | yeah. |
| 05:41.21 | Wobwork | but it's boring =) |
| 05:41.59 | Wobwork | What's life without a little thrill |
| 05:42.46 | bleeter | i wouldnt call gold coast safe |
| 05:42.56 | bleeter | oh, inland... yeah, maybe |
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| 06:02.05 | Nom- | "I love deadlines. I like the whooshing sound they make as they fly by" : Douglas Adams |
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| 07:52.01 | DragonWin | pass in quick on em1 proto udp all keep state |
| 07:52.23 | zenzelezz | http://writingenglish.wordpress.com/2006/09/12/the-25-funniest-analogies-collected-by-high-school-english-teachers/ |
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| 08:15.19 | The_GoldFish | Anyone here know if the raid target symbols which show up above mob's heads are considered part of the interface or not? Or even where their texture is located? (I've looked around a looot of mpqs just trying to find the texture and can't...) |
| 08:18.07 | zenzelezz | moment |
| 08:18.48 | zenzelezz | Interface\TargetingFrame\UI-RaidTargetingIcons |
| 08:20.04 | The_GoldFish | Yeah, those ones I found |
| 08:20.08 | The_GoldFish | so far as I can tell |
| 08:20.16 | zenzelezz | those are the ones the UI uses |
| 08:20.17 | The_GoldFish | those're only the ones that you select via the targetting frame |
| 08:20.46 | zenzelezz | the UI only has a concept of the icons through a number, which corresponds to a certain part of that texture file |
| 08:21.15 | zenzelezz | ie. star is 1, circle is 2, etc |
| 08:21.21 | The_GoldFish | yeah I understand how it all works |
| 08:21.29 | zenzelezz | then I don't understand what you were asking |
| 08:22.30 | The_GoldFish | the texture used for the icons in the targeting frame have no relation to the texture use for the icons which visually appear above mobs |
| 08:22.43 | The_GoldFish | I can't find the texture for them *anywhere* so I've no idea if they're considered modable or not |
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| 08:23.04 | The_GoldFish | (basically I just want to make them smaller or semitransparnt) |
| 08:24.01 | zenzelezz | I see... if that is possible then it's beyond my knowledge |
| 08:24.31 | zenzelezz | still early though, stick around and someone else might know =) |
| 08:24.40 | The_GoldFish | yep, cheers though |
| 08:24.47 | The_GoldFish | I had good fun replacing the icons texture with the races one |
| 08:25.38 | The_GoldFish | also I dunno if it's early or late :P |
| 08:26.20 | zenzelezz | for this channel it's early |
| 08:26.48 | zenzelezz | I find it a bit odd that the raid target icons over mobs don't scale like quest indicators and stuff like Hunter's Mark |
| 08:28.53 | The_GoldFish | yeah, they're mainly annoying for the tank who, if we use them, gets a face full of giant skull |
| 08:32.24 | zenzelezz | I'm an add tank on Hydross; like the tanking part, but it's a real pain since we pull them under him to AoE them... visibility underneath him is not exactly high =D |
| 08:35.43 | The_GoldFish | yeah, well, we're just a pretty casual team and wanna know if we can make use of them, but at current they're too obtrusive |
| 08:35.47 | The_GoldFish | so there :P |
| 08:37.27 | The_GoldFish | anywho, time to go fishing \o/ |
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| 09:00.29 | Nom- | lol |
| 09:00.37 | Nom- | some kid bought a PS3 off eBay |
| 09:00.45 | Nom- | and it had $103,000 cash in it |
| 09:00.51 | Nom- | And they idiots actually reported it to police |
| 09:01.53 | zenzelezz | heard about that one |
| 09:02.12 | Nom- | I mean seriously |
| 09:02.18 | Maldivia | I would have done the same |
| 09:02.22 | Nom- | If $103,000 cash turned up in my eBay delivery |
| 09:02.29 | Nom- | I'd have to think long and hard about that... |
| 09:03.25 | Nom- | Although, I guess it'd be hard to do anything with it, aside from use it as pocket money |
| 09:03.28 | The_GoldFish | so you're saying that you'd keep 183k you got in a playstation 3, (read, hidden away) from someone who has mailed you the item in question (read, has your address) |
| 09:03.54 | The_GoldFish | I think they might just come looking for it, possibly with a shotgun |
| 09:03.59 | Nom- | Who sayd they'd have MY address ? |
| 09:04.15 | Nom- | I usually have stuff delivered C/- office |
| 09:04.26 | Nom- | They'd have to find me amongst 1000 employees first :P |
| 09:04.42 | The_GoldFish | so you have stuff delivered namelessly to your office? |
| 09:05.21 | The_GoldFish | cause they probably at least have your name and a general idea of where you live |
| 09:05.51 | The_GoldFish | someone who had 183k stashed in a PS3 probably has the means to find you |
| 09:06.03 | Nom- | lol |
| 09:06.18 | The_GoldFish | what I'd do, is swipe a good chunk of the cash and *then* report it :P |
| 09:06.28 | Nom- | Now you're thinking |
| 09:06.36 | Nom- | I mean...what a strange amount |
| 09:06.39 | Nom- | $103,000 |
| 09:06.41 | Nom- | :P |
| 09:06.54 | The_GoldFish | yeah |
| 09:07.07 | The_GoldFish | almost enough to buy a PS3 at launch |
| 09:07.08 | The_GoldFish | hehe |
| 09:07.13 | Nom- | haha |
| 09:07.33 | Nom- | I'm thinking there was $110k or $120k or a nice round $150k |
| 09:07.39 | Nom- | And they've done just that :P |
| 09:07.51 | The_GoldFish | thing is though |
| 09:08.15 | The_GoldFish | it could just be some old lady's saving that she tucked away in one of the electronic devices which never gets used (eg a PS3) |
| 09:08.40 | Nom- | Or even worse |
| 09:08.55 | Nom- | It could have been that, and some punk kid swiped it from the house and sold it on eBay |
| 09:09.24 | The_GoldFish | hehe |
| 09:09.26 | Nom- | because, seriously, noone in their right mind would put $103,000 into a PS3 and then eBay it for a few hundred $$ |
| 09:09.50 | Nom- | That's what I was thinking too...I mean you wouldn't send it if you know it's there |
| 09:10.01 | Nom- | Therefore, they didn't know it was there, so they're not going to come looking for it |
| 09:10.26 | The_GoldFish | not unless it's all fake and/or money stolen from someplace and the FBI are after it |
| 09:10.30 | The_GoldFish | and you're an idiot |
| 09:10.30 | The_GoldFish | hehe |
| 09:10.43 | Nom- | Or, another equally likely scenario... a grandmother died and had a ps3 in her house for grandkids to play with |
| 09:10.50 | Nom- | Which was also used to hide cash |
| 09:11.02 | Nom- | Family didn't know cash was in there, decides to ebay it because they have one already |
| 09:11.17 | Nom- | That's about the only scenario where i'd want to return the cash :P |
| 09:11.23 | Nom- | (at least that I can think of so far) |
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| 09:13.05 | Maldivia | the $103.000 might be because the money was in another currency, and the article you read they converted it to dollars |
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| 09:13.37 | The_GoldFish | like a million dollars canadian |
| 09:13.47 | krka | or maybe the people just werent anal enough to require a "nice rounded" number |
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| 10:02.59 | nevcairiel | does anyone know what that launcher update was for? |
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| 10:07.48 | Thunder_Child | to update the launcher |
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| 10:14.41 | zenzelezz | no wai |
| 10:20.26 | Thunder_Child | ya wai |
| 10:20.42 | zenzelezz | oh kai |
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| 13:13.46 | phyber | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=383541488&sid=1&pageNo=1 |
| 13:13.57 | phyber | if someone could just post "Lifebloom" in that thread, that would be magic :) |
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| 13:19.14 | |FF|Im2good4u | ome yeah gief warlocks a main healing abeley >.< |
| 13:21.21 | |FF|Im2good4u | warlocks still need a "death" debuf that instatly kills the mob or players after 3 mins' |
| 13:21.46 | Neebler | curse of doom |
| 13:22.01 | |FF|Im2good4u | doesnt kill u |
| 13:22.03 | |FF|Im2good4u | i think |
| 13:22.17 | Lopeppeppy | Seed of Corruption does, when cast inside Karazhan unwisely.... |
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| 13:23.09 | |FF|Im2good4u | heh |
| 13:23.50 | |FF|Im2good4u | anyway is it tru that u cant add / remove content in a drop down menu ? |
| 13:23.59 | Josh_Borke | which dropdown menu? |
| 13:24.13 | Lopeppeppy | What content? |
| 13:26.20 | |FF|Im2good4u | well any normal dropdown menu :P im thinking of using one in my addon but need to be able to moddify the contents (buttons inside the drop down menu), i though it wasnt posable to remove or add them after its created |
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| 13:27.23 | Josh_Borke | probably not with blizzard style |
| 13:27.25 | Josh_Borke | dunno though |
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| 13:29.01 | k1337oris | Hi there. anyone Knows how to customize CyCyrcled ingame? |
| 13:29.18 | Josh_Borke | customize how? |
| 13:29.36 | k1337oris | ehm..need the minimap icon |
| 13:29.51 | k1337oris | or the command for the chat |
| 13:30.12 | Lopeppeppy | Did you try just /cycircled ? |
| 13:30.24 | k1337oris | yea |
| 13:30.32 | k1337oris | didnt worked :> |
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| 13:31.18 | Josh_Borke | k1337oris: do you have fubar installed? |
| 13:31.24 | k1337oris | no |
| 13:31.26 | k1337oris | bartender3 |
| 13:31.32 | k1337oris | but this icon is lost too |
| 13:32.12 | Lopeppeppy | Try /bar for that one, I think.... |
| 13:32.12 | Josh_Borke | k1337oris: where did you get the adodns? |
| 13:32.12 | k1337oris | photekui |
| 13:32.15 | k1337oris | hrhr i got |
| 13:32.15 | k1337oris | it |
| 13:32.29 | k1337oris | ./cycircled hide |
| 13:32.41 | Josh_Borke | i thought you said /cycircled didn't work |
| 13:32.44 | Lopeppeppy | ? |
| 13:33.07 | k1337oris | hmm |
| 13:33.47 | k1337oris | anyways cycircled worx...ehm u know how to get the minimapicon of bartender 3? |
| 13:34.06 | Lopeppeppy | Does /bar or /bartender do nothing for you? |
| 13:34.13 | Josh_Borke | did you try /bt3 or /bartender3 or /bar or /bartender? |
| 13:34.23 | k1337oris | ./bar works |
| 13:34.34 | k1337oris | but i cant find the command fpr minimap |
| 13:34.53 | Josh_Borke | /bar show? |
| 13:34.57 | Lopeppeppy | Keep poking at it. Not like I have a menu here to guide ya through, but it should be in there. |
| 13:36.15 | k1337oris | bar show doesnt work |
| 13:36.35 | k1337oris | tryed to delete it and reinstall but doesnt work too |
| 13:36.55 | Josh_Borke | k1337oris: that's because the setting is saved |
| 13:37.10 | Josh_Borke | k1337oris: there's an option in there someone. it might say something about a plugin or fubar |
| 13:37.12 | k1337oris | in the WTF or? |
| 13:37.23 | Josh_Borke | k1337oris: yes, in the WTF folder |
| 13:37.49 | k1337oris | there's an option in there someone. it might say something about a plugin or fubar |
| 13:37.50 | k1337oris | jup |
| 13:37.51 | k1337oris | thanx |
| 13:37.59 | k1337oris | ./bar fubar hide |
| 13:38.00 | k1337oris | :D |
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| 13:38.18 | Josh_Borke | glad to help |
| 13:38.39 | k1337oris | what char u guys play? |
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| 13:39.32 | Josh_Borke | i'm a shadow priest |
| 13:40.05 | k1337oris | i play shami :( |
| 13:40.15 | k1337oris | nerfed class nr.1 :< |
| 13:40.30 | zenzelezz | eh? |
| 13:40.30 | Lopeppeppy | .../bar gets me a list of cool options. "config" is one of them... so /bar config opens me up a sweet little GUI and it's under Fubar Plugin config. |
| 13:41.06 | k1337oris | => |
| 13:41.13 | TS|Skrom | What's the difference between in-laws and out-laws? |
| 13:41.24 | TS|Skrom | Out-laws are "wanted" ^^ |
| 13:41.35 | TS|Skrom | ~rimshot |
| 13:41.35 | purl | ba-dum CHH |
| 13:41.51 | Lopeppeppy | Good morning to you too, TS|Skrom. Did you put extra sugar on your cornflakes or something? |
| 13:42.02 | TS|Skrom | ^^ |
| 13:42.10 | TS|Skrom | I get free pizza and soda paid for by the company today |
| 13:42.16 | Lopeppeppy | For breakfast? |
| 13:42.23 | TS|Skrom | I actually had a successful ramparts run on my pally last night |
| 13:42.29 | Lopeppeppy | Huzzah! |
| 13:42.36 | Lopeppeppy | I like Ramparts and Blood Furnace, they're a hoot. |
| 13:42.41 | TS|Skrom | I did quite a bit of work on a new addon last night as well, and am pleased with the project so far |
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| 13:43.00 | TS|Skrom | and I get to DM my D&D group tonight and I'm excited about what we're up to |
| 13:43.05 | TS|Skrom | all in all, it's a pretty rockin day |
| 13:43.06 | Lopeppeppy | Okay... so you're in double-afterglow, I guess I can see why you're so perky in the morning. |
| 13:43.18 | TS|Skrom | oh and i have a bacon egg and cheese biscuit on my desk waiting for me to devour |
| 13:43.36 | TS|Skrom | oh and it's payday |
| 13:43.38 | Lopeppeppy | I have a cat on my desk waiting for me to give her another mushroom slice. |
| 13:43.45 | TS|Skrom | though a fair portion of that is going toward the mortgage |
| 13:43.51 | Lopeppeppy | Houses. Bah! |
| 13:44.04 | Lopeppeppy | Live in a cardboard box, I says, save on rent and utilities. |
| 13:44.11 | TS|Skrom | thankfully my renter pays the majority of that ! |
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| 13:45.03 | |FF|Im2good4u | maybe a drop don menu isnt verry good for my addon. is there any simpel way to make a tree type list like u have in your prof window ? |
| 13:45.25 | Josh_Borke | copy the prof window? |
| 13:45.33 | |FF|Im2good4u | neh that to easy |
| 13:45.40 | |FF|Im2good4u | \o/ |
| 13:45.58 | |FF|Im2good4u | i dont think that going to work but ill try |
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| 13:52.33 | cladhaire | Three shadow priests in arena, two pew pewing, one healing.. lots of fun :P |
| 13:52.54 | Lopeppeppy | If it makes your life tingly, I say do it more. :) |
| 13:53.56 | TS|Skrom | I'm a little dissatisfied with Buffalo2, the timers get all wonky when you recast a buff (timer moves down attached to the bottom most buff but the icon stays where it was) |
| 13:54.03 | TS|Skrom | anyone got any other suggestions? |
| 13:55.14 | Lopeppeppy | Huh. I've always just used regular Buffalo, never really seen that problem with it. |
| 13:55.55 | TS|Skrom | I don't suppose CT_Buffmod can run without CT_Core? |
| 13:56.42 | TS|Skrom | I liked CT_Buffmod, but CT_Core was redundent when I got prat and questfu |
| 13:56.50 | |FF|Im2good4u | ahhh that skill frame is hella confusing >.< |
| 13:57.01 | TS|Skrom | the only thing I kept core for mainly was the chat scrolling and quest tracker anchor |
| 14:02.40 | Josh_Borke | TS|Skrom: drop prat for mumble imo ;-P |
| 14:02.57 | Josh_Borke | TS|Skrom: and yes, CT_BuffMod runs witohut core |
| 14:03.30 | Josh_Borke | <3 CTBuffMod |
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| 14:06.30 | TS|Skrom_ | good, becuase like I said, I liked buffmod |
| 14:06.39 | TS|Skrom_ | how does it configure without core for the GUI? |
| 14:09.32 | Gnancy | I second Lopeppeppy with Buffalo1 |
| 14:22.31 | Josh_Borke | TS|Skrom_: since 2.0 it's done by a configuration library |
| 14:32.40 | sag_ich_nicht | how do i create a slashcommand alias |
| 14:32.40 | sag_ich_nicht | and more specificially, how do i overwrite a /# slashcommand? >< |
| 14:33.15 | zenzelezz | /#? Like the chat channel ones? |
| 14:33.56 | sag_ich_nicht | yes |
| 14:34.03 | sag_ich_nicht | i need to overwrite one. |
| 14:34.14 | zenzelezz | don't think you can override default slash commands |
| 14:35.16 | sag_ich_nicht | that. is. dumb. |
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| 14:35.28 | zenzelezz | that is your opinion |
| 14:35.28 | Josh_Borke | sag_ich_nicht: what are you trying to do? |
| 14:36.03 | sag_ich_nicht | not much, i have a slash command and i want it to be alias by /8 |
| 14:36.59 | Josh_Borke | make it /eight |
| 14:37.25 | Josh_Borke | and i don't think it's dumb :-D |
| 14:40.16 | krka | why dont you think you can override default bindings? |
| 14:40.26 | sag_ich_nicht | [16:36] <Josh_Borke> make it /eight <--no. |
| 14:40.42 | sag_ich_nicht | QWERTZ keyboard |
| 14:40.46 | sag_ich_nicht | / is shift + 7 |
| 14:41.03 | zenzelezz | I think so because I *think* I read it somewhere |
| 14:41.09 | zenzelezz | if I knew for sure I would say so |
| 14:42.08 | Josh_Borke | try it |
| 14:42.11 | zenzelezz | "Special 'built in' slash commands for chat are handled first." -- from the howto on the wiki. I don't know how many of them this applies to |
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| 14:44.00 | sag_ich_nicht | the wiki is ooooold :O |
| 14:44.06 | sag_ich_nicht | (sometimes) |
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| 14:47.59 | krka | it's possible you can't... but i am looking at ChatFrame.lua now, and it could be doable with some hooking i think |
| 14:48.42 | krka | possibly by hooking ChatEdit_ParseText |
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| 14:49.19 | sag_ich_nicht | krka question is what that would taint :O |
| 14:49.57 | krka | good point |
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| 15:00.10 | sag_ich_nicht | lol |
| 15:00.12 | sag_ich_nicht | /gcinfo |
| 15:00.19 | sag_ich_nicht | causes an endless error flood from thottbot |
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| 15:02.21 | TS|Skrom_ | okay I'm torn |
| 15:02.38 | deltron | what's /gcinfo? |
| 15:02.41 | TS|Skrom_ | work on my new addon project... work on D&D stuffs... or encode Hamlet in my Thespian format |
| 15:02.50 | TS|Skrom_ | notice how "do real work" wasn't in the list |
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| 15:03.24 | Gryphen | gcinfo is garbage collect info |
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| 15:04.18 | Lopeppeppy | Hamlet is my choice, TS|Skrom. |
| 15:04.49 | sag_ich_nicht | deltron: i wanted to do /necb gcinfo |
| 15:04.51 | sag_ich_nicht | but forgot the /necb |
| 15:04.55 | deltron | lol |
| 15:04.58 | sag_ich_nicht | which caused this crazy behaviour |
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| 15:05.13 | TS|Skrom_ | http://shakespeare.mit.edu/hamlet/full.html |
| 15:05.46 | TS|Skrom_ | goign to put each actors part in it's own saved variable file then zip the whole thign up and upload it to curse as an "extension" to thespian |
| 15:05.46 | Lopeppeppy | You'll be busy a long time, dear. |
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| 15:11.09 | TS|Skrom_ | hehe SetStatusBarColor(math.random(),math.random(),math.random()) is fun :) |
| 15:11.51 | Lopeppeppy | Puce? Magenta? |
| 15:12.08 | cog|work | I prefer using an HSV calculation :P |
| 15:12.50 | TS|Skrom_ | all sorts of neet colors |
| 15:12.59 | TS|Skrom_ | neet? |
| 15:13.01 | TS|Skrom_ | XD |
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| 15:42.54 | Lopeppeppy | I really do hate when search is disabled. |
| 15:42.57 | TS|Skrom_ | ugh... why can't I find OnMouseOver? |
| 15:43.09 | TS|Skrom_ | does it not exist? |
| 15:43.29 | zenzelezz | what exactly do you want, a notification when the mouse enters your frame? |
| 15:43.41 | TS|Skrom_ | ohh OnEnter? |
| 15:44.01 | TS|Skrom_ | I guess I'm thinking in Javascript again or something |
| 15:47.04 | zenzelezz | OnEnter + OnLeave most likely |
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| 16:10.11 | TS|Skrom_ | hrmpf |
| 16:10.19 | Lopeppeppy | With cheese. |
| 16:10.20 | TS|Skrom_ | BAG_UPDATE isn't called when you loot something? |
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| 16:13.49 | TS|Skrom_ | wait no that doesn't make sense. It's the only event I'm registered for so obviusly it's getting called or my onevent wouldn't work |
| 16:13.54 | Cairenn|afk | and since I know that it'll apply in here, too (for those of you in both channels, sorry for the repeat spam): |
| 16:13.56 | Cairenn|afk | just for info - we (WoWI) have told Mazzle that we can't and won't support or host or otherwise have anything whatsoever to do with a "pay for" site |
| 16:14.05 | Cairenn|afk | he asked us if we would be willing to set up a forum or site for it and we said no |
| 16:14.18 | Cairenn|afk | just thought I'd let you guys know that |
| 16:14.34 | Lopeppeppy | Oiy. More Mazzledrama! *hugs Cairenn* |
| 16:14.44 | Cairenn|afk | http://www.wowinterface.com/forums/showthread.php?t=11306 |
| 16:14.58 | zenzelezz | "pay for" site? |
| 16:15.04 | zenzelezz | limited access thing? |
| 16:15.07 | Cairenn|afk | he asked us about it weeks ago |
| 16:15.34 | zenzelezz | I voted for the third option |
| 16:15.37 | Cairenn|afk | Lopeppeppy: honestly, I'm just sick to death of the whole thing - it's been one headache after another |
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| 16:16.46 | Cairenn|afk | normally I would never say anything like that "publicly", but ... |
| 16:16.56 | zenzelezz | why not? |
| 16:17.05 | zenzelezz | we still lubs joo |
| 16:17.12 | Lopeppeppy | Cairenn is discreet and professional. |
| 16:17.23 | Cairenn|afk | because I keep my "personal" opinions about things quiet |
| 16:17.26 | zenzelezz | you can be professional without being discreet |
| 16:17.38 | |FF|Im2good4u | does every frame exist as userdata ? |
| 16:17.44 | Cairenn|afk | but at this point, the mess that is MazzleUI is well beyond "personal" feelings |
| 16:18.22 | Lopeppeppy | It's just... ooky. And I'm on AD with 'em. |
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| 16:18.42 | Cairenn|afk | not any more you aren't - he's quit |
| 16:19.11 | Kyahx | I still find it hard to believe he hasn't gotten atleast $15 from open donations so far |
| 16:19.21 | Lopeppeppy | Just means that General chat will be that much more mazzlecentric for a few weeks. *shrug* |
| 16:19.24 | Kyahx | he can afford a wow-account to upkeep his stuff if he wants to be popular |
| 16:20.10 | TS|Skrom_ | *palmface* pass your Lua the actual event if you want your OnEvent to actually be able to see it >< |
| 16:20.24 | TS|Skrom_ | always forgetting the little things |
| 16:20.32 | Kyahx | :) |
| 16:20.39 | Cairenn|afk | anyway, I didn't mean to start a whole bruhaha in here about it either, I just wanted to let the authors whose work is in the compilation know that we (WoWI) aren't supporting this idea |
| 16:20.55 | zenzelezz | but we like a good bruhaha! |
| 16:21.03 | Lopeppeppy | Brewski? Where? |
| 16:21.04 | Cairenn|afk | hehehe, well, there's that |
| 16:21.14 | Lopeppeppy | Bruschi.... football season fast approaches. |
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| 16:25.58 | Lunessa | Approach Logan 5 and Identify. |
| 16:26.51 | Lopeppeppy | Milkshake. |
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| 16:28.02 | art3mis | wow silly mazzle |
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| 16:29.21 | art3mis | if he does end up making a "pay to download" site i think its almostcommunity required that someone make a free mazzle like installer that allows any one to specify layouts and addons for distrobution like mazzles does just to be jerks (think rdx.cid) ;) |
| 16:30.28 | Lunessa | ... So Mazzle wants some cash? But he's using other people's code/addons? *sigh* |
| 16:30.44 | art3mis | thats the gist |
| 16:31.00 | art3mis | making a pay forum site that just happens to have mazzleui for download |
| 16:32.46 | cog|work | Lunessa: it's not quite that simple |
| 16:32.55 | Lunessa | I don't mind people getting paid to write code, and make packages. |
| 16:33.22 | cog|work | There *are* Mazzle-specific addons that took a considerable amount of work |
| 16:33.26 | Lunessa | I don't mind cash being forked over for support and bandwidth either. |
| 16:33.48 | cog|work | plus mazzle-specific modifications to some of the 3rd-party mods |
| 16:33.49 | Lunessa | I just don't think he should charge for other people's work without sharing. |
| 16:34.10 | cog|work | (with permission) |
| 16:34.43 | cog|work | He's not charging for other peoples' work... he's charging for his own. and he doesn't need to share the other peoples' work because they're already shared... |
| 16:35.10 | Lunessa | Yeah, yet one more reason I've not released any code. |
| 16:35.20 | Lunessa | I'm greedy. |
| 16:35.23 | Lopeppeppy | It's complex, messy, drama-ridden and unfun no matter which slice of the pie you nibble on. |
| 16:35.24 | art3mis | i think that was because you're a jerk? |
| 16:35.51 | art3mis | ;) |
| 16:35.59 | Lunessa | art3mis: Oh yeah, that too. |
| 16:35.59 | art3mis | damn ups to hell! |
| 16:36.16 | art3mis | order a laptop yesterday looking at the tracking its IN nyc right now |
| 16:36.18 | Lunessa | Yes, Lopeppeppy - it's messy. |
| 16:36.27 | art3mis | but nooooooo they're delaying delivery til next tuesday |
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| 16:36.41 | Lunessa | And cog|work isn't wrong to be saddened or disappointed. |
| 16:36.55 | Lopeppeppy | Harry Potter deliveries are making a complete mess of UPS and all other similar delivery services. |
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| 16:37.54 | art3mis | gnomail |
| 16:37.57 | Gnancy | i am picking up my potter at the store tonight |
| 16:38.29 | art3mis | im burning a local barnes and noble when it gets released to cull the gene pool |
| 16:38.48 | Lunessa | ... |
| 16:39.00 | TS|Skrom_ | this is odd... dsbl.org says my server isn't listed on any of the dns based servers they run through, but my buddy is getting 550 errors from his company email to me... |
| 16:39.18 | TS|Skrom_ | as far as I know I've not been listed for months since I had that firewall problem that I took care of |
| 16:40.11 | Valaron|Work | Check spamhaus.org |
| 16:42.48 | TS|Skrom_ | not listed in any of em |
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| 16:51.19 | Lunessa | .. who is this guy who's every post is "get mazzle" ? |
| 16:51.47 | art3mis | i love that the cable company has decided everyone needs more speed |
| 16:51.53 | art3mis | i can now leech at 1.5MB |
| 16:52.44 | zenzelezz | my ISP has done that with ADSL over the years |
| 16:53.07 | zenzelezz | we pay the same now as we did six years ago, but then we had 1024/256, now we have 4000/400 |
| 16:54.32 | art3mis | yeah was a free magic upgrade a few months ago |
| 16:54.57 | art3mis | i think its to piss off the fios verizon people |
| 16:55.11 | art3mis | who are charging premium for 20mbit/3mbit |
| 16:55.33 | art3mis | where as a minor update to cable puts me at 10mbit/4mbit |
| 16:55.53 | art3mis | and i still have the option to spend 10$ more amonth for 30/5 |
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| 17:11.31 | Valaron|Work | http://www.cnn.com/2007/TECH/07/20/superfast.net.ap/index.html |
| 17:13.50 | Lopeppeppy | .... /wrist |
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| 17:19.35 | Lunessa | Someone sneak into her home and add wireless routers... |
| 17:20.43 | Lopeppeppy | I dream at night of such heavenly wonders.... |
| 17:21.46 | Lunessa | If I had a 40-megabit pipe.... |
| 17:23.47 | Lopeppeppy | No way my grandmother would use it to read the newspaper!! |
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| 17:28.50 | Lunessa | ... Is high latency really such a huge issue for WoW? (note, I don't PVP, so I may have never noticed.) |
| 17:29.51 | zenzelezz | define high |
| 17:30.37 | Industrial | yes.] |
| 17:30.56 | Lunessa | I'm reading about 400ms. I mean, I've rarely seen that sort of latency issue, but I'm also not playing transatlantic/pacific. |
| 17:31.15 | Industrial | any place microseconds count, you want it under 50 optimally. |
| 17:31.39 | zenzelezz | I do all right with 200-250ish, but less is preferable of course |
| 17:32.16 | Industrial | or else you have to do things in advance of seeing them happen on screen - without the visual guidelines that make it easier if you'd have a low ping |
| 17:32.46 | Industrial | wich sucks, basically, imho :3 |
| 17:33.34 | Lopeppeppy | I've found instancing and healing is.... horrible above 250. I usually run from 150-200 though, so I do okay. |
| 17:34.02 | Industrial | how about timing rogue energy ticks and shit >_> |
| 17:34.23 | Lopeppeppy | Ouch. |
| 17:34.28 | zenzelezz | you should develop a sense for that before long |
| 17:34.32 | Lopeppeppy | My rogue does not get to raid, so I haven't run into that post TBC. |
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| 17:48.33 | |FF|Im2good4u | http://wowi.pastey.net/71104 - now the RaidInfoTracker_Interface_List_Panel need tobe inside RaidInfoTracker_Interface_List but its at the top left of my screen instead? |
| 17:52.39 | Cairenn | Lopeppeppy: you around per chance? |
| 17:54.41 | TS|Skrom_ | ping deltron |
| 17:55.33 | Lopeppeppy | Still right here, Cairenn. *wave* |
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| 17:59.44 | TS|Skrom_ | I know it's all level based, etc, but honestly... where would a Durnholde Sentry in Old Hillsbrad get Netherweave cloth :-/ |
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| 18:00.39 | Lunessa | Well ... there was limited contact with draenor before the battle at Mt. Hyjal... |
| 18:01.08 | Lunessa | 'sides, how ticked would you be if you got runecloth from them? |
| 18:01.24 | Lopeppeppy | And not all that was once known still is known.. sometimes culture and craft will backslide. :) |
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| 18:18.09 | Mr_Rabies2 | aren't the sentries actually infinite dragonflight? |
| 18:18.37 | Lopeppeppy | In Durnholde? |
| 18:18.40 | Mr_Rabies2 | yeah |
| 18:18.56 | Tem | not in durnholde keep, I don't think |
| 18:19.05 | Tem | which is why thrall bitches the whole time |
| 18:19.08 | Lopeppeppy | No... I think they're just Durnholde Sentries, average alliance humanoid. The dragonflight is manipulating the hell out of them, but they're still humies. |
| 18:19.09 | Mr_Rabies2 | well there's 3 that attack you that turn into dragons |
| 18:19.21 | Lopeppeppy | Those are different-specialer. |
| 18:19.24 | Mr_Rabies2 | during the endboss fight |
| 18:19.26 | Tem | that's much later |
| 18:19.37 | Tem | he's talking about the ones that are actually _in_ the keep |
| 18:19.48 | Mr_Rabies2 | but does that mean that quite a few more infiltrated? |
| 18:19.55 | Lunessa | Yeah, they're pretty bad-ass too. If the Alliance had more guys of that level and power, the war might have gone very differently. |
| 18:20.04 | Tem | heh |
| 18:20.04 | Mr_Rabies2 | i mean, they're dragons, they can shapeshift and walk among anyone |
| 18:20.14 | Tem | the first war wouldn't have ended the way it did at all |
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| 18:26.15 | Valaron|Work | Who's? |
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| 18:34.31 | Skrom|Sarcasm | ping deltron |
| 18:37.03 | deltron | TS|Skrom: howdy |
| 18:37.56 | Cairenn | I love how everyone instantly becomes a lawyer on internet ... /roll eyes |
| 18:38.48 | Cairenn | and with that comment ... /me runs out the door again |
| 18:39.21 | Josh_Borke | bye cairenn |
| 18:40.14 | Lunessa | ... IANAL... but I stayed at a Holiday Inn Express... |
| 18:40.48 | End | IANAL ... but I know how to ride a bicycle... |
| 18:40.57 | Lopeppeppy | .... |
| 18:41.22 | deltron | IANAL ... but I play one on the internets |
| 18:42.31 | deltron | http://objection.mrdictionary.net/go.php?n=2078973 |
| 18:44.22 | Josh_Borke | Cairenn: i have a complaint about wowi |
| 18:44.24 | Josh_Borke | or a question |
| 18:45.55 | End | She ran out the door. |
| 18:46.02 | End | (again) |
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| 18:53.51 | art3mis | i believe shes actually on a long bungie cord attached to a car outside |
| 18:54.06 | art3mis | she runs in for a short time fights the pull but eventually gets snapped back outside |
| 18:54.27 | art3mis | car/shed |
| 18:54.30 | art3mis | your pick |
| 18:54.50 | Lopeppeppy | I'll get her a box cutter for Xmas to set herself free. |
| 18:55.01 | art3mis | would seem like asensible gift |
| 18:55.16 | art3mis | perhaps you should not wrap it up though and lfy to her place to present it in person |
| 18:55.21 | art3mis | fly |
| 18:55.39 | Lopeppeppy | Yeah. Right. |
| 18:55.43 | art3mis | heh |
| 18:55.56 | Lopeppeppy | Always wrap sharp objects with a ribbon and a penny so as not to cut the bonds of friendship. Duh. |
| 18:56.00 | Lopeppeppy | :) |
| 18:56.11 | art3mis | i was gonna also suggest rushing to the airport for your flight right after you washed your hair and had it upin a towel |
| 18:56.29 | art3mis | so you'd look your best of course |
| 18:56.43 | Lunessa | Lopeppeppy: ... do you always give wallets with cash in them? |
| 18:56.54 | Lunessa | If so, will you add me to your X-mas list? |
| 18:57.06 | Lopeppeppy | If a penny is cash, sure.... |
| 18:57.07 | art3mis | only to the nice men who offer to let him keep breathing on long night walks ;P |
| 18:57.40 | art3mis | has anyone seen cowboy bebop knocking on heavens door? |
| 18:57.42 | Lunessa | pennies = cash. |
| 18:57.56 | Lopeppeppy | Pennies do add up, after a while. |
| 18:58.07 | art3mis | so doesraw copper piping |
| 18:58.17 | art3mis | however one is A LOT easier to convert into bills |
| 18:58.32 | art3mis | and is easier to roll |
| 18:58.36 | Lopeppeppy | I have a metal recycler only an exit up the highway. Easy to convert copper pipe into cash. |
| 18:58.56 | art3mis | hehe take a bag of ennies to the bank sometime and compare the wait times ;P |
| 18:59.52 | art3mis | anyways in bebop when you get hit by this nano machine gas thingy you start seeing yellow butterflies at the edge of your vision |
| 18:59.59 | art3mis | and its a sign that your dying |
| 19:00.15 | Lopeppeppy | I use the CoinStar, no wait. Just 5 cents from every dollar... I can live with that fee. |
| 19:00.18 | art3mis | the drug lunesta uses green butterflies in the same sorta way ;P |
| 19:00.43 | art3mis | dude you have to use money part it's only 3 buck on a hun! |
| 19:00.49 | art3mis | err mart |
| 19:03.42 | Lunessa | I need a cheeseburger. |
| 19:04.05 | clad|afk | Lopeppeppy: If you get an amazon.com gift card, you don't get charged at all |
| 19:06.28 | Lopeppeppy | That's true, Cladhaire. And when my male is with me, he reminds me of that and goes shopping with it later. If it's just me, I get the little slip to give to the cashier and just go with it. |
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| 19:08.59 | clad|afk | hehe |
| 19:09.37 | [Cu]weriK | Can anyone help me out with templates? Fightning with these wowwiki examples since a while, not much success |
| 19:09.44 | clad|afk | which template? |
| 19:10.34 | [Cu]weriK | I'm trying to take it easy, made a simple button template, cant really inherit it |
| 19:10.51 | foxlit | virtual="true" ? |
| 19:11.06 | clad|afk | you make one with a name, that has virtual="true" |
| 19:11.11 | [Cu]weriK | yes |
| 19:11.15 | clad|afk | and then you use inherits="WhateverNameYouUsedBefore" |
| 19:11.16 | clad|afk | to inherit it |
| 19:11.27 | foxlit | You can post your code if you want to :) |
| 19:11.35 | clad|afk | beyond that, we'll need to see the code |
| 19:11.38 | [Cu]weriK | hm |
| 19:11.46 | [Cu]weriK | inherits= or inherit=? |
| 19:12.00 | foxlit | inherits |
| 19:12.15 | [Cu]weriK | mkay, that explains some things i guess |
| 19:12.43 | foxlit | You can check Logs/FrameXML.log to see if your XML file parses fine :) |
| 19:12.52 | foxlit | That'd probably pick up wrongly named parameters |
| 19:14.02 | [Cu]weriK | Oh well, I thought of many things except that wowwiki has is wrong. Works now, thanks :) |
| 19:14.23 | clad|afk | :P |
| 19:14.27 | clad|afk | i'll make sure to cover that in the book |
| 19:15.15 | [Cu]weriK | Evil wowwiki, seriously |
| 19:15.28 | clad|afk | srsly :P |
| 19:15.52 | foxlit | Link some page :) |
| 19:15.52 | Lopeppeppy | You'd think that people who find errors would update the wiki. *pokepoke* |
| 19:15.56 | [Cu]weriK | im updating it;P |
| 19:16.09 | foxlit | XML user interface, dammit |
| 19:17.22 | Lopeppeppy | *cheer [Cu]weriK* |
| 19:18.28 | sag_ich_nicht | question |
| 19:18.29 | sag_ich_nicht | am i allowed to say spoilers 1 second after midnight... i mean technicially it's out then and not a spoiler anymore. :O |
| 19:18.42 | art3mis | you can saythem now |
| 19:18.49 | art3mis | i wont be offended ;P |
| 19:18.59 | sag_ich_nicht | maybe you won't be |
| 19:18.59 | sag_ich_nicht | :P |
| 19:19.33 | art3mis | well so far im the only one thats answered you so my weight to the quesiton is at maximum potential ;P |
| 19:19.35 | foxlit | Dumbledore lied, Vader is Harry's faster. |
| 19:19.42 | art3mis | his faster?! |
| 19:19.44 | foxlit | *father |
| 19:19.44 | art3mis | wow |
| 19:19.49 | art3mis | i totally didnt see THAT coming |
| 19:19.56 | clad|afk | sag_ich_nicht: I will cunt-kick you |
| 19:19.59 | clad|afk | in the face |
| 19:20.04 | art3mis | kinky |
| 19:20.13 | Lopeppeppy | I'm soooo aggressively disinterested in the whole "ruin it for everyone because it's funny" thing. I'll catch people on Monday, when this is not an issue. |
| 19:20.16 | *** part/#wowi-lounge Lopeppeppy (n=Lopeppep@cpe-72-230-32-5.nycap.res.rr.com) |
| 19:21.51 | art3mis | sag ypou just need tobe a bit crafty likesay "so iw as working on blah blahthe other day and i noticed that a valid point from x->y seems to be only one way happy potter eats his toast with the left hand, so i was wondering if anyone had any input on this |
| 19:22.23 | deltron | harry's magic is really midichlorians |
| 19:22.54 | art3mis | i cant even ruin harry potter for everyone because to do so would reauire me to learn something about it |
| 19:23.08 | art3mis | and i dont find it at all readable |
| 19:23.35 | deltron | I found it really boring |
| 19:23.46 | deltron | but that said, it's a kid's book |
| 19:23.49 | foxlit | Colbert's spoilers were <3 |
| 19:24.46 | foxlit | Oh wow |
| 19:24.52 | foxlit | Thursday brought more HP comedycentral content. |
| 19:25.05 | art3mis | ? |
| 19:25.15 | foxlit | http://www.comedycentral.com |
| 19:25.42 | sag_ich_nicht | [21:19] <@clad|afk> sag_ich_nicht: I will cunt-kick you |
| 19:25.42 | sag_ich_nicht | [21:19] <@clad|afk> in the face |
| 19:25.44 | sag_ich_nicht | so that means |
| 19:25.50 | sag_ich_nicht | you want conilingus? |
| 19:25.53 | cladhaire | don't try to understand it |
| 19:25.56 | cladhaire | just be afraid :P |
| 19:26.02 | sag_ich_nicht | am not. |
| 19:26.20 | foxlit | Wpw |
| 19:26.23 | foxlit | Wow, that video is win |
| 19:27.14 | sag_ich_nicht | art3mis |
| 19:27.15 | sag_ich_nicht | well |
| 19:27.18 | sag_ich_nicht | i could give you a youtube link |
| 19:27.23 | sag_ich_nicht | that has all the spoilers in one neat video |
| 19:27.24 | sag_ich_nicht | :P |
| 19:27.39 | sag_ich_nicht | but i wouldn't recommend linking it here |
| 19:27.47 | sag_ich_nicht | might get cladhaire angry :P |
| 19:29.08 | art3mis | heh perfect! |
| 19:29.13 | art3mis | ill tiny url it later;P |
| 19:29.33 | Josh_Borke | claddy waddy is always angry |
| 19:29.36 | cladhaire | true! |
| 19:29.45 | deltron | wryyyyyyy |
| 19:29.47 | art3mis | hes got cms |
| 19:30.08 | Josh_Borke | because he's jealous of us |
| 19:30.13 | deltron | cms? |
| 19:30.34 | art3mis | constant |
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| 19:32.04 | art3mis | but its a medical business, you go to the doctor shop |
| 19:32.19 | art3mis | hahahaha |
| 19:32.23 | art3mis | watching the colbert thing |
| 19:33.04 | Industrial | what colbert thing |
| 19:33.16 | Industrial | btw http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2007/7/20/82929/1716 |
| 19:34.02 | art3mis | main page of comedy central |
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| 19:34.08 | art3mis | his interview with michael moore |
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| 19:35.10 | art3mis | oh yeah i saw that a few weeks ago |
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| 19:37.35 | art3mis | hahahahhahhaha |
| 19:37.46 | art3mis | some car that runs on the tears of children |
| 19:42.05 | Industrial | that sounds really colbert. |
| 19:42.41 | art3mis | john olivers harry potter report |
| 19:42.57 | art3mis | in answer to johns quesiton of why spomeone would releases it and ruin it for everyone ;) |
| 19:43.51 | sag_ich_nicht | lol. |
| 19:44.05 | sag_ich_nicht | release it? |
| 19:44.08 | sag_ich_nicht | scene fame |
| 19:44.13 | sag_ich_nicht | also so we can read the book earlier |
| 19:44.20 | sag_ich_nicht | delaying the release like this just for hype |
| 19:44.22 | sag_ich_nicht | and dumb |
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| 20:25.10 | Industrial | pff harry potter. go read Ian M. Banks or Katherine Kerr or Chris Wooding :P |
| 20:25.45 | Industrial | I just read the first book of Deverry - vrey nice |
| 20:25.47 | Industrial | very* |
| 20:26.25 | Cide | what's wrong with harry potter? |
| 20:27.18 | [Cu]weriK | It exsists? |
| 20:27.27 | Cide | don't be silly |
| 20:30.28 | buu | It's hideously cliched? |
| 20:30.38 | zenzelezz | it's not my kind of book, but there's nothing wrong about it either |
| 20:30.58 | buu | zenzelezz: Sure, it's just not worth of the ridiculous hype. |
| 20:31.20 | zenzelezz | that's no different than anything else |
| 20:31.30 | zenzelezz | everything gets overhyped today |
| 20:33.19 | Cide | buu: well, people seem to like clichés then :) |
| 20:34.22 | buu | Cide: Sure. |
| 20:34.43 | Cide | overhyped? I don't know |
| 20:35.04 | zenzelezz | "overhyped" just means those that aren't interesting get annoyed by it |
| 20:35.11 | zenzelezz | *interested |
| 20:35.14 | zenzelezz | funky typo |
| 20:36.06 | buu | zenzelezz: Probably, yes. |
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| 21:24.00 | AnduinLothar | :) css is cood when it wants to be. <3 resizable web pages |
| 21:24.05 | AnduinLothar | cool* |
| 21:24.06 | AnduinLothar | http://www.karlkfi.com/vers2/ |
| 21:25.17 | foxlit | Isn't that doable with tables? |
| 21:25.31 | cog|work | foxlit: that's not the point |
| 21:25.43 | cog|work | tables aren't "supposed" to be used for that kind of thing... |
| 21:25.59 | foxlit | Care level: minimal |
| 21:26.06 | deltron | http://www.chorewars.com/ |
| 21:26.21 | AnduinLothar | it is possible with tables, that's how i did the borders and things in http://www.karlkfi.com/ |
| 21:27.04 | AnduinLothar | but as you can see the code for the tab;es one is a lot more messy |
| 21:29.48 | AnduinLothar | plus i've upgraded to pngs now that IE can handle then decently. when i wrote that main page 4 or 5 years ago IE had no decent transparency |
| 21:30.14 | AnduinLothar | also back then there was no possible way to do streachable horazontal gradients |
| 21:30.31 | foxlit | IE6 still has more browsershare than most other things, I think |
| 21:30.48 | AnduinLothar | right 70% or so |
| 21:31.15 | AnduinLothar | i make sure everythign works on ie, but that doesn't mean i liek it or use ie-only features |
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| 21:43.33 | AnduinLothar | wow. IE fails at scaling pngs |
| 21:43.37 | AnduinLothar | QQ |
| 21:43.45 | AnduinLothar | guess i'll have to manually resize it |
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| 21:46.45 | Industrial | IE? whats that? |
| 21:47.01 | Industrial | I should block IE from my site. |
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| 21:48.58 | foxlit | You should burn. |
| 21:49.28 | foxlit | Well, maybe not :) |
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| 21:55.29 | Industrial | ghe ghe did it |
| 21:55.43 | Industrial | http://koen.it/~tom/ |
| 21:57.10 | foxlit | I'd check, but hey, I can't be bothered |
| 21:58.00 | Industrial | \o/ |
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