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| 00:04.36 | *** topic/#wowi-lounge is #wowi-lounge: Paste Code Here: http://wowi.pastey.net | 2.1 Toc: 20100 | RTFPN please | TC tells puns too, we have proof: "...we were..."Testing the waters" so to speak" |
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| 00:24.48 | Mr_Rabies2 | are there any addons out there that calculate proc percentage and stuff? |
| 00:25.07 | Mr_Rabies2 | procwatch is really really out of date, as far as i can tell |
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| 00:31.47 | Mr_Rabies2 | i just would like more addons to give me more factual stats on combat |
| 00:32.12 | Mr_Rabies2 | like recap, but without the huge memory usage unless it's been totally overhauled recently on its 5th or so author |
| 00:32.41 | Thrae | Mr_Rabies2: Violation is good for yourself, Assessment is the SWStats-type mod. |
| 00:32.57 | Mr_Rabies2 | i just mean me |
| 00:33.01 | Mr_Rabies2 | violation...okay |
| 00:33.54 | Mr_Rabies2 | i really loved recap back in the day |
| 00:34.02 | Mr_Rabies2 | but it ate a decent amount of resources THEN |
| 00:34.11 | Mr_Rabies2 | comparatively now it has to eat a bunch |
| 00:34.30 | Mr_Rabies2 | especially since it's gone through so many authors fixing it without really overhauling it |
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| 00:42.20 | dnmcgoy | hi all |
| 00:44.31 | Mr_Rabies2 | does violation check weapon procs and stuff too, thrae? |
| 00:44.45 | Thrae | Mr_Rabies2: Honestly, I've never used it. |
| 00:44.57 | Mr_Rabies2 | ~lart Thrae |
| 00:44.57 | purl | farts in Thrae's general direction |
| 00:46.26 | Mr_Rabies2 | actually, thrae |
| 00:46.37 | Mr_Rabies2 | Violation is basically a remake of damagemeters |
| 00:46.44 | Mr_Rabies2 | like, almost exactly |
| 00:46.47 | Mr_Rabies2 | but with gradients |
| 00:47.42 | Thrae | Mr_Rabies2: Yeah, but it doesn't have sync'ing. That's what Assessment is for...or maybe it's the other way around. I always get the two confused. |
| 00:48.13 | Thrae | So, uh, either Assessment or Violation is exactly what you want. Assessment can give you a -crap load- of data, much more then even Recap does. |
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| 00:48.25 | Mr_Rabies2 | i want like |
| 00:48.37 | Mr_Rabies2 | Proc rates, % of damage from x, etc |
| 00:48.53 | Thrae | Mr_Rabies2: Assessment should be able to do that... |
| 00:49.07 | Mr_Rabies2 | i may use violation but if it has no syncing then nuts to that |
| 00:49.16 | Mr_Rabies2 | it's basically a pretty damagemeters with less functionality |
| 00:50.02 | Thrae | Mr_Rabies2: Look at Assessment then |
| 00:50.07 | Mr_Rabies2 | will do |
| 00:50.09 | Mr_Rabies2 | ace based? |
| 00:50.15 | Thrae | Probably |
| 00:50.24 | Mr_Rabies2 | just wanna know where to check |
| 00:50.30 | Mr_Rabies2 | yep it is |
| 00:51.31 | Mr_Rabies2 | nevermind, violation DOES have syncing |
| 00:52.02 | Mr_Rabies2 | so it's just pretty damagemeters with less gui options atm and more command line |
| 00:53.12 | Mr_Rabies2 | oh damn nevermin |
| 00:53.16 | Mr_Rabies2 | all the config is fubar |
| 00:53.18 | Mr_Rabies2 | i feel bad now |
| 00:53.24 | Mr_Rabies2 | this is awesome |
| 00:54.11 | Mr_Rabies2 | it looks like it has a built in threat meter too |
| 00:54.13 | Mr_Rabies2 | this is like |
| 00:54.35 | Mr_Rabies2 | it's great :P |
| 00:54.39 | Mr_Rabies2 | thanks for suggesting it man |
| 01:02.24 | MentalPower | How do you change the format the screenshots are saved in? |
| 01:02.40 | cladhaire | there's a CVar |
| 01:02.50 | MentalPower | I know, which one |
| 01:03.00 | MentalPower | its not defined in my config.wtf |
| 01:03.20 | cladhaire | SET screenshotFormat "PNG" |
| 01:03.31 | MentalPower | thanks clad |
| 01:03.47 | Thrae | MentalPower: The config.wtf only contains what is set through the UI -- it does not contain --all-- the variables. |
| 01:04.23 | MentalPower | I know, I was just saying that it was not there for me to change easily |
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| 01:08.17 | MentalPower | bah, the windows client does not support PNG screenies |
| 01:08.19 | Mr_Rabies2 | wow assessment does have everything |
| 01:08.27 | Mr_Rabies2 | except scaling |
| 01:08.31 | Mr_Rabies2 | for the windows |
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| 01:20.53 | Mr_Rabies2 | that seems like so obvious the guy will probably kick himself when he realizes he hasn't put scaling it yet |
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| 01:31.38 | Corrodias | assessment? what does this do? |
| 01:31.56 | Corrodias | also: it looks like the latest version of recount no longer lets you turn off the "use global textures" for bars option |
| 01:34.24 | Corrodias | assessment analyzes combat, i take it? currently, recap is my favorite addon for that |
| 01:38.37 | Fin | Mr_Rabies: got a URL? |
| 01:40.26 | Fin | cladhaire: what does it mean if noone replies to a post in the Site help / feedback forum? |
| 01:40.31 | cladhaire | what post? |
| 01:40.32 | cladhaire | =) |
| 01:40.37 | cladhaire | it means no one looked at it most likely |
| 01:43.39 | Fin | http://www.wowinterface.com/forums/showthread.php?t=6399 and http://www.wowinterface.com/forums/showthread.php?t=10460 |
| 01:43.51 | Fin | I only ever posted once there before, and noone ever replied to that, either, bah |
| 01:44.17 | Fin | it's fixed now, but for ages the paging was broken if you used nonstandard ordering |
| 01:44.39 | Fin | sad Fin |
| 01:44.52 | Fin | http://www.wowinterface.com/forums/showthread.php?t=6399 that was it :) |
| 01:45.14 | Fin | who the hell came up with the forum ranks? they're awesome |
| 01:46.06 | Cairenn | sorry Fin |
| 01:46.31 | Fin | cladhaire: it's no big deal, I was just wondering if no replies meant "we're looking at it" or noone'd seen it, or that I was wearing my invisible hat again |
| 01:47.02 | Shirik | so, my IRC client, I'm thinking about adding the capability to add scripts to it through Lua |
| 01:47.04 | Shirik | thoughts? |
| 01:47.05 | Cairenn | if it is in the Feedback forum, it has been looked at, guaranteed |
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| 01:47.23 | Fin | it's OK Cairenn, I know it's a lot of work running a site like that |
| 01:47.27 | Fin | OK, spiffy |
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| 01:47.49 | Fin | sorry, I do apologise if I was wrong about this - cladhaire, are you not an admin of WoWI? |
| 01:47.53 | Fin | hi ck |
| 01:48.12 | Shirik | she's a mod :) |
| 01:48.14 | Fin | u p |
| 01:48.14 | Shirik | or he |
| 01:48.15 | ckknight | hey |
| 01:48.15 | Shirik | whatever |
| 01:48.17 | Cairenn | he's a moderator, you weren't wrong to talk to him, I was kinda afk |
| 01:48.25 | Fin | OK, good stuff |
| 01:48.37 | Cairenn | but came back, saw the conversation and jumped in - sorry clad |
| 01:48.42 | cladhaire | no prblem |
| 01:48.44 | cladhaire | was mid boss |
| 01:48.45 | cladhaire | I'm a he. |
| 01:48.47 | cladhaire | and i'm a mod |
| 01:48.50 | cladhaire | i hate you shirik |
| 01:48.52 | Fin | incidentally, got any jobs going? do you make enough money to hire people? I'm worth the money, honest |
| 01:48.53 | Shirik | :) |
| 01:49.24 | Shirik | Cairenn's worth the money too |
| 01:49.25 | Kirov | Are there any curse moderators that frequent this channel anymore? |
| 01:49.38 | Shirik | I'm just kidding don't kill me!! |
| 01:50.03 | Cairenn | Fin: I could wish =/ |
| 01:50.30 | Fin | I have an idea to make lots and lots of money from WoW |
| 01:50.54 | Fin | I'm going to be super-rich, and popular too, and my penis will probably grow as well |
| 01:51.14 | Shirik | make an addon that acts as a daily calendar |
| 01:51.21 | Shirik | pictures, daily pictures |
| 01:51.37 | Shirik | seed each server |
| 01:51.48 | Shirik | membership charge |
| 01:51.52 | Shirik | it would do all of those things |
| 01:52.01 | Shirik | And I know just the female to get you those pictures |
| 01:52.18 | Fin | your sister? |
| 01:52.21 | Fin | I didn't know she was into that |
| 01:52.23 | Shirik | .... |
| 01:52.29 | Fin | ... BOOM |
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| 02:04.11 | Mr_Rabies2 | Thrae, as much as i appreciate your suggestions of assessment and violation, they're not what i really was looking for |
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| 02:04.22 | Mr_Rabies2 | i guess i'll check out recap again |
| 02:04.33 | Mr_Rabies2 | for some reason it's on the ace updater, did someone ace it @_@ |
| 02:05.34 | Kirov | Recap has been using Ace2 for a while |
| 02:06.17 | Kirov | Ever since Gello dropped it, the two major offshoots started using ParserLib |
| 02:06.30 | Mr_Rabies2 | i haven't used it since gello dropped it really |
| 02:06.37 | Mr_Rabies2 | i used a couple fan updates and hated them |
| 02:06.45 | Xuerian | Recap was the best :( |
| 02:07.25 | Xuerian | Recap, Sprocket and Yatlas: Most unfortunate MIA's |
| 02:07.26 | Kirov | Recount's pie charts are cool |
| 02:08.02 | Kirov | Sprocket's author quit WoW in the belief that Sprocket was no longer possible. |
| 02:08.04 | Xuerian | Kirov: Yeah, I know. |
| 02:08.14 | Xuerian | :p |
| 02:08.43 | Kirov | It's unfortunate too since Sprocket was entirely possible after 2.0. |
| 02:08.55 | Xuerian | Apparently it's not |
| 02:09.00 | Kirov | It is |
| 02:09.03 | Xuerian | Not completely anyway |
| 02:09.11 | Xuerian | Or extremely hard |
| 02:09.14 | Xuerian | Or something <_< |
| 02:10.13 | Kirov | The main issue was he'd just finished optimizing his code to use the fewest possible frames, and post 2.0 required all possible frames existed all the time. |
| 02:10.17 | Xuerian | I know SecurePie was implemented, and it's extremely unfortunate that he left right before it was put in |
| 02:10.52 | Xuerian | Ah, that was the reason? |
| 02:11.05 | Xuerian | Shows my lack of knowledge of the situation :P |
| 02:12.01 | Kirov | I think he was just done with Sprocket, he finished it in his eyes, and Blizzards changes made all that work worthless. |
| 02:12.20 | Xuerian | That's what I thought too; Right as he had gotten it working almost flawlessly, bam, secureshit >_< |
| 02:14.22 | Kirov | Kinda' like MazzleUI, she finally finished that and released it 3 days before the 2.0 patch. |
| 02:14.46 | Kirov | Though, amazingly, she redid the whole thing from scratch and re-released it |
| 02:15.36 | Xuerian | Yeah, that was a pretty big feat, even though I'm not too keen on the whole idea. Was on the same server as her and saw her around though, so it was interesting |
| 02:16.19 | Kirov | MazzleUI is by far the most impressive UI compilation to come out of (basically) a single person. |
| 02:16.43 | Shirik | if you can call a compilation to be from a single person |
| 02:16.52 | Xuerian | Yeah, I completely agree there. |
| 02:18.07 | Kirov | The addons might be originally written by many different people, but some of the more popular compilations seem to have those addons modified in some way. |
| 02:18.19 | Kirov | Usually to match some consistent visual theme. |
| 02:18.22 | Xuerian | Shirik: Of course not the addons themselves, hell, XLoot is in there. But getting it all to work together in more or less a unified and distributable UI along with whatever modifications is a pretty big work |
| 02:18.53 | Kirov | MazzleUI went the step further to make them auto-configure themselves with out needing to do anything fancy with the WTF folder. |
| 02:19.45 | cladhaire | thats a huge step tho |
| 02:19.54 | Kirov | Yeah |
| 02:20.06 | Kirov | Which is why I think MazzleUI is so cool |
| 02:20.16 | Shirik | I will stay out of this discussion |
| 02:20.21 | Shirik | otherwise bad things will happen |
| 02:22.44 | Kirov | not a fan of Mazzle? |
| 02:23.09 | Shirik | that's a bit of an understatement. The UI is great, I won't deny that |
| 02:23.17 | Shadowed | he's said some things that make people hate him |
| 02:23.18 | Shirik | but there are other... issues |
| 02:23.20 | Xuerian | I have mixed feelings about the whole thing too, but it doesn't necessarily keep me from acknowledging the work that went into it |
| 02:33.08 | Fin | btw, Shirik - you said you had problems with pastey.net? |
| 02:33.16 | Shirik | on dialup yeah |
| 02:33.21 | Shirik | I don't know why, it might be the isp |
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| 02:34.11 | Fin | have you tried just putting a + at the end of the URL? eg, http://fin.pastey.net/70873+ |
| 02:36.16 | Nom- | I'd use MazzleUI If I was running widescreen |
| 02:36.20 | Shirik | wow that's awesome |
| 02:36.23 | Shirik | I didn't know you could do that |
| 02:36.25 | Nom- | It seems too crampt for non-widescreen |
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| 02:42.26 | ckknight | cool, Fin |
| 02:47.43 | Shirik | take care guys |
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| 04:03.25 | Nom- | lol |
| 04:03.37 | Nom- | n00bs in the forums complaining because blizzard changed some sound/audio stuff |
| 04:03.57 | Nom- | I mean...duh...how else are they going to impliment voice chat? :P |
| 04:07.41 | ckknight | ...lol |
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| 04:32.42 | Corrodias | i need to get my credit card limit raised |
| 04:32.46 | Corrodias | so i can order a new monitor |
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| 04:41.19 | Kaydeethree | bleeter, ping. the ptr loads if I disable alsa in winecfg. |
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| 06:32.49 | krka | MentalPower: what? |
| 06:33.56 | MentalPower | private server on your scrennie :) |
| 06:35.43 | krka | just for developing purposes |
| 06:36.17 | Wobwork | I want a development server |
| 06:36.21 | Wobwork | that can reboot every day |
| 06:36.28 | Wobwork | but doesn't have the weekly maintenence |
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| 07:01.33 | Nom- | As much as Blizz hates it, I actually want a private server I can run... just so i can explore the new dungeons, even though the mobs and bosses will be completely different |
| 07:01.40 | Nom- | At least I could have a look ^_^ |
| 07:02.31 | Nom- | And I must admit, the prospect of being a level 255 warlock sounds interesting :P |
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| 07:58.33 | Jadrie | anyone awake this hour in here? |
| 07:58.55 | zenzelezz | occasionally |
| 07:58.56 | Punkie` | this hour is 9am |
| 07:59.03 | zenzelezz | try asking anyway |
| 07:59.40 | Jadrie | lol, here it's 4 am =D |
| 07:59.49 | Corrodias | i'm awake |
| 07:59.54 | Jadrie | was wondering if anyone wanted to trade Gatherable Report data |
| 08:00.21 | Jadrie | I've got 4710 nodes, and was gonna see about expanding that a little for my guild |
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| 08:09.30 | *** topic/#wowi-lounge is #wowi-lounge: Paste Code Here: http://wowi.pastey.net | 2.1 Toc: 20100 | RTFPN please | TC tells puns too, we have proof: "...we were..."Testing the waters" so to speak" |
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| 09:39.05 | |FF|Im2good4u | a new update of wow ui desinger would be nice :P |
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| 10:41.42 | |FF|Im2good4u | does anyone know a addon or lib for transfering your data to guild members ? |
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| 11:50.37 | Josh_Borke | morning |
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| 12:53.49 | zenzelezz | http://www.proft.org/tips/evil.html |
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| 13:11.29 | foxlit | #1: link dead pages? :) |
| 13:11.40 | foxlit | http://66.102.9.104/search?q=cache:8CBPGPpRqycJ:www.proft.org/tips/evil.html+http://www.proft.org/tips/evil.html&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=1 |
| 13:12.33 | Lopeppeppy | #26 |
| 13:12.43 | foxlit | #100, tbh |
| 13:13.31 | zenzelezz | foxlit: well the site loaded fine for me, and I'd never visited it before |
| 13:14.02 | foxlit | Does it still load? :) |
| 13:14.08 | Lopeppeppy | #90 |
| 13:14.18 | zenzelezz | foxlit: yes, it does |
| 13:17.01 | foxlit | 93 is odd |
| 13:17.18 | Josh_Borke | yea |
| 13:17.58 | Lopeppeppy | As in... "I should not decide to do that, because it will lead to my doom. I will hold only separate executions." It's just more poorly worded than the others. |
| 13:17.58 | Josh_Borke | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:18.21 | Josh_Borke | #60 is cute |
| 13:20.03 | Wobin | #50 =) |
| 13:20.08 | Wobin | If only the aliens thought of that! |
| 13:20.37 | Wobin | I like #99 |
| 13:20.38 | Lopeppeppy | I'm thinking the inspirations were... Star Wars, Beast Master and Independence Day. |
| 13:21.18 | Wobin | "No matter how tempted I am with the prospect of unlimited power, I will not consume any energy field bigger than my head." |
| 13:21.24 | Wobin | Words we can -all- live by! =) |
| 13:22.13 | Lopeppeppy | I would never eat anything bigger than my head, unless it should happen to be a lobster or a chocolate-item. |
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| 13:57.30 | |FF|Im2good4u | hmm that devtools does work nice :P |
| 14:01.02 | cog|book | anyone know what UnitIsPVPSanctuary is for? |
| 14:01.40 | Josh_Borke | shattrath |
| 14:02.41 | foxlit | stair of destiny |
| 14:02.53 | clad|book | ? |
| 14:03.13 | foxlit | There are zones where you can't attack a PvP-enabled target |
| 14:03.28 | mikma | foxlit: yeah. like, shattrath |
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| 14:03.29 | cog|book | ah |
| 14:03.32 | cog|book | ok |
| 14:03.43 | Josh_Borke | stair of destiny? o.O where's that? |
| 14:03.54 | ts|skrom_ | outland side of the dark portal |
| 14:03.56 | Lopeppeppy | As you come into Outlands from Blasted Lands, IIRC |
| 14:04.01 | Josh_Borke | ah |
| 14:04.32 | clad|book | there are a few sanctuaries |
| 14:05.02 | clad|book | but it looks like it means a.) the unit is flagged PvP, and b.) the unit is in a sanctuary zone and cannot be attacked. |
| 14:11.08 | ts|skrom_ | no wiki today? |
| 14:11.12 | sag_ich_nicht | god, now you're reading both? :O |
| 14:11.15 | ts|skrom_ | nm |
| 14:12.01 | sag_ich_nicht | cogwheel suggestion for you to post, getplayerstatus() to get the AFK or DND message of a given player(no, wouldn't require server sided saving, just a bit of whisper addon comm usage from the blizz interface) :P |
| 14:16.06 | cog|book | sag_ich_nicht: would you mind PMing me on wowinterface.com about it? I have to head out to work now and will most definitely forget :P |
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| 14:41.56 | |FF|Im2good4u | u know in shatt i can kill npc's :P that are pvp :P |
| 14:42.27 | |FF|Im2good4u | im scryter and i can kill the lowbie npc of aldor that are standing below near the elevator :P |
| 14:42.41 | |FF|Im2good4u | i dont even loose honer :P |
| 14:42.56 | Lopeppeppy | Yes, you can kill NPC's in Shattrath. *shrug* |
| 14:43.20 | Lopeppeppy | You can kill NPC's anywhere you want to, if you get the right vantage point. |
| 14:45.08 | |FF|Im2good4u | yes but u know in shatt u cant hatrdly kill anything at all not even the chickens :P |
| 14:46.28 | Lopeppeppy | If you stand in the right places, you can kill whatever you want. Just don't go say "hello" up on the other faction tier. |
| 14:46.49 | Lopeppeppy | I'm on an RP server and people clear out the bank NPC's all the time, it's annoying. But if we can figure it out, any server can. |
| 14:55.55 | clad|book | WowLua released |
| 14:55.55 | clad|book | http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info7366-WowLua.html |
| 14:56.19 | krka | renamed wowpad? |
| 14:56.23 | clad|book | yes |
| 14:56.36 | Josh_Borke | clad|book: <3 |
| 14:56.44 | zenzelezz | seems people can't agree on Lunacy card prices yet... one Eight for 10-12g, one for 450-550g |
| 14:57.12 | Lopeppeppy | The new cards have pretty wild price schemes, ya. |
| 14:58.14 | krka | <3 indeed |
| 14:58.21 | krka | i'll even go so far as to say <2 |
| 14:58.40 | Josh_Borke | o.O |
| 14:59.00 | clad|book | hehe |
| 15:00.31 | clad|book | *ahem* |
| 15:00.31 | clad|book | (Please note, the infinite loop detection is EXTREMELY limited and will not work in all situations (especially if you loadstring() a function, or do something else nefarious to get around it). This functionality is only included to prevent casual mistakes, not to serve as a true sandbox for the environment. (This means your Shirik) |
| 15:00.34 | krka | < -infinite |
| 15:00.39 | clad|book | lol |
| 15:01.03 | sag_ich_nicht | lol |
| 15:01.17 | krka | has someone made a seemless zoomable world map addon yet? |
| 15:01.36 | clad|book | Yatlas has the googlemaps of wow |
| 15:01.39 | clad|book | its so sexy |
| 15:01.41 | clad|book | if that's what you mean |
| 15:01.57 | krka | possibly |
| 15:01.58 | Josh_Borke | screenshot or it didn't happen |
| 15:02.26 | clad|book | http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info4497-Yatlas.html |
| 15:03.16 | Josh_Borke | yea, that's pretty sexy |
| 15:03.17 | krka | that's nifty |
| 15:03.27 | clad|book | its very fun in-game |
| 15:03.31 | krka | dont see any zoom |
| 15:03.35 | clad|book | mousewheel |
| 15:03.38 | clad|book | same as gmaps |
| 15:03.39 | krka | oic |
| 15:03.44 | krka | what if you dont have a mouse wheel??? |
| 15:03.52 | clad|book | lrn2mousewheel =) |
| 15:04.08 | Lopeppeppy | Buy a new mouse-mouse. |
| 15:04.12 | krka | maybe i could use that for autotravel... hm |
| 15:04.40 | clad|book | very possible =) |
| 15:04.46 | clad|book | i dont know how/where he gets the textures from |
| 15:04.47 | clad|book | i should look :P |
| 15:04.58 | krka | extracted from wow probably |
| 15:05.26 | clad|book | is there any way to do that dynamically, without needing to extract or anything? |
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| 15:09.56 | krka | dont think so |
| 15:10.12 | krka | hm, unless you reference the underlying texture directly |
| 15:13.04 | cog|work | sag_ich_nicht: "p.s.: there is a bug in AutoDND that always sets me to DND when I log in. :P" <-- That's the point of the addon :P Or do you mean it happens even if you're not DND when you log out? |
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| 15:21.10 | Valaron|Work | Blech.. Morning. |
| 15:22.36 | Lopeppeppy | Mblargleyargh. Coffee? |
| 15:22.42 | Valaron|Work | Soon. |
| 15:23.04 | Valaron|Work | Ooh. I have cash. Time to get some :P |
| 15:23.11 | Josh_Borke | morning |
| 15:24.37 | Lopeppeppy | See? Cash, coffee, cohesion. |
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| 15:44.02 | Valaron|Work | I am searching the UI/M forum for my name. I always seem to be the thread stopper whenever I post something. |
| 15:44.33 | Lopeppeppy | I get that sometimes too. It's either because we answered the question, or because the poster gave up and went away. |
| 15:44.47 | Josh_Borke | i think it's because you chased them away |
| 15:44.55 | Valaron|Work | Good. |
| 15:45.59 | Lopeppeppy | Idiots deserve to be chased from the forums. Honest questions deserve thorough answers. Everyone wins. |
| 15:47.06 | Valaron|Work | Are anyone on the 2.2 PTR? |
| 15:47.56 | Valaron|Work | Will the in-game VOIP work with bluetooth headsets? |
| 15:48.05 | Lopeppeppy | Not on the PTR yet. |
| 15:48.16 | Lopeppeppy | As in, I'm on there yet to check, sorry for being unclear. :) |
| 15:48.28 | clad|book | Valaron|Work: Bluetooth is an os level thing |
| 15:48.28 | nevcairiel | i suppose it will work with anything that can be used a sound in/out |
| 15:48.37 | clad|book | you set the in./out tho, as nevcairielsaid |
| 15:48.46 | Valaron|Work | Ok. |
| 15:49.04 | Valaron|Work | Time to pull out the old adapter. |
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| 16:12.50 | Nom- | lololol |
| 16:13.01 | Nom- | Just won the roll on a BOE epic |
| 16:13.14 | zenzelezz | which? |
| 16:13.52 | Nom- | http://www.wowhead.com/?item=31322 |
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| 16:14.13 | Nom- | There's a nice chunk of mount money right there |
| 16:14.41 | lolinternet | [17:13] <cog|work> sag_ich_nicht: "p.s.: there is a bug in AutoDND that always sets me to DND when I log in. :P" <-- That's the point of the addon :P Or do you mean it happens even if you're not DND when you log out? <--correct, it's even setting DND wh |
| 16:14.51 | lolinternet | damnit, something fell on my keyboard |
| 16:14.52 | lolinternet | >< |
| 16:15.07 | sag_ich_nicht | [17:13] <cog|work> sag_ich_nicht: "p.s.: there is a bug in AutoDND that always sets me to DND when I log in. :P" <-- That's the point of the addon :P Or do you mean it happens even if you're not DND when you log out? <--correct, it's even setting DND when i logged out with no DND |
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| 16:16.16 | cog|work | hmm... I haven't had that problem myself... Before you log out, check out what AutoDNDSV.enabled is set to... |
| 16:16.26 | sag_ich_nicht | kk |
| 16:16.30 | sag_ich_nicht | will do :) |
| 16:16.59 | cog|work | also, if you're using a non-english WoW, the AFK code might be failing since it checks for "You are no longer AFK." |
| 16:17.11 | sag_ich_nicht | i'm using enGB :) |
| 16:17.13 | clad|book | cog|work: why not use the globalstring? |
| 16:17.35 | cog|work | clad|book: I didn't think the global string was used by the CHAT_MSG_SYSTEM |
| 16:17.44 | cog|work | +event |
| 16:17.57 | clad|book | *shrug* dunno :P |
| 16:18.01 | cog|work | I figured the message was created C-side |
| 16:18.31 | sag_ich_nicht | clad doesn't like my suggestion btw, what do you think of it? :P |
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| 16:19.33 | clad|book | i just dont think you'll find blizzard wanting to use client to client messages to accomplish something |
| 16:19.45 | clad|book | i agree it would be nice to not have to bother them to get their away message |
| 16:20.21 | sag_ich_nicht | [18:19] <@clad|book> i just dont think you'll find blizzard wanting to use client to client messages to accomplish something <--well storing it serversided would cause more server load than that tho :P |
| 16:22.00 | clad|book | its not the server load, its the difficulty of implementing new API that has server comms |
| 16:22.08 | clad|book | and what slouken is and isn't willing to do : |
| 16:22.08 | clad|book | P{ |
| 16:23.45 | sag_ich_nicht | so what you are arguing about is just a matter of new jersey style versus MIT style :P |
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| 16:24.16 | clad|book | no, i'm basing my objections off what slouken has said in the past, whats available, and what the default UI would prefer to do. |
| 16:24.23 | sag_ich_nicht | (with a certain amount of assumed lazy- and busyess involved) |
| 16:24.31 | clad|book | You want to implement a Peer to peer handler in the default UI. I sincerely doubt you'll ever see Blizzard move in that direction. |
| 16:24.46 | clad|book | I'm not objecting, just stating an educated opinion |
| 16:24.52 | sag_ich_nicht | :) |
| 16:24.53 | clad|book | that just gets really dirty really quickly |
| 16:28.23 | sag_ich_nicht | actually storing the message on the server might not be such a bad idea, you could check the afk message of someone before he went offline or something :O |
| 16:28.23 | sag_ich_nicht | or even define a new state of quit :P |
| 16:28.23 | sag_ich_nicht | (okay now i'm thinking too irc like, i know) |
| 16:28.23 | clad|book | then the difficulty there is an API function that requres server communications you won't see appear anytime soon, unless the default UI has a good reason to use it. |
| 16:28.23 | sag_ich_nicht | to-do lists can be pretty long |
| 16:28.23 | sag_ich_nicht | but the earlier you add something the earlier it gets implemented, so requesting it now may cause it to be implemented in 3.0 instead of lets say 4.0 :P |
| 16:28.23 | cog|work | I'll add the generic request for a way to get DND message to the list... Not going to suggest an implementation though. And they can always say "NO" :) |
| 16:28.46 | sag_ich_nicht | [18:28] <cog|work> I'll add the generic request for a way to get DND message to the list... Not going to suggest an implementation though. And they can always say "NO" :) <--solves the problem. should be AFK and DND tho, not just DND ;) |
| 16:28.46 | cog|work | kk |
| 16:28.47 | Josh_Borke | hm, there is already API for server communication. GM tickets are saved across toons |
| 16:34.43 | clad|book | Josh_Borke: You're assuming too much. |
| 16:35.00 | clad|book | there/'s also server communications for guild roster, etc. |
| 16:35.16 | clad|book | that doesn't mean there is a generalized server communication api that can be used for this |
| 16:35.31 | Josh_Borke | that's true |
| 16:35.55 | Josh_Borke | ok, bye all |
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| 16:39.21 | ts|skrom_ | when a friend is afk or dnd doesn't it say <afk> on the friends list? |
| 16:39.29 | clad|book | yes, but you can't get the message |
| 16:39.36 | ts|skrom_ | ohhh |
| 16:39.46 | clad|book | without sending them a message :P |
| 16:39.50 | clad|book | hopefull it gets added, would be nice |
| 16:40.29 | ts|skrom_ | this is odd |
| 16:40.37 | ts|skrom_ | my firewall is reporting "trouble contacting your wan route" |
| 16:40.47 | ts|skrom_ | but obviously I'm connected to the wan just fine... |
| 16:40.55 | sag_ich_nicht | TS|Skrom details of the firewall please |
| 16:41.10 | ts|skrom_ | I'll get right on that >.> |
| 16:41.16 | sag_ich_nicht | no i mean |
| 16:41.24 | sag_ich_nicht | is it a software or hardware firewall? :P |
| 16:41.36 | TS|Skrom | hardware |
| 16:41.54 | TS|Skrom | I had some trouble this morning getting my remote users in |
| 16:42.14 | sag_ich_nicht | remote users? oooooh, wait, nvm, okay so you know what you are doing :) |
| 16:42.15 | TS|Skrom | eventually rebooted the firewall and the t1 which prolly lead to the message |
| 16:42.21 | sag_ich_nicht | heh |
| 16:42.27 | TS|Skrom | but they are coming in, and we are going out and it's giving that message O.o |
| 16:42.29 | sag_ich_nicht | maybe the ISP router is being a jerk? :P |
| 16:42.35 | TS|Skrom | I'm not gonna touch it lol, since it's working |
| 16:42.37 | sag_ich_nicht | ICMP blocking? :P |
| 16:42.42 | Lopeppeppy | Upset to not have shared the peanuts in the reboot? |
| 16:42.43 | TS|Skrom | I don't care if it says the world is ending as long as it works |
| 16:43.02 | sag_ich_nicht | that's the wrong approach imho |
| 16:43.06 | TS|Skrom | well the isp router is just set for passthrough |
| 16:43.19 | sag_ich_nicht | just like "i'll never add security updates until i get an intrusion" |
| 16:43.26 | sag_ich_nicht | which reminds me |
| 16:43.28 | TS|Skrom | well no see that IS a bad approach lol |
| 16:43.28 | sag_ich_nicht | patch time :O |
| 16:43.42 | sag_ich_nicht | yours is also a bad approach :P |
| 16:43.48 | TS|Skrom | but if it's working I'm not going to care if the firewall (that I suspect might be failing anyway) is giving a false error |
| 16:43.56 | sag_ich_nicht | heh |
| 16:44.02 | Lopeppeppy | "If it ain't broke, don't fix it" isn't the same as "if it needs patching, patch it". You can do both. |
| 16:44.15 | sag_ich_nicht | throw it away and replace it with a openbsd box running pf :P |
| 16:45.04 | sag_ich_nicht | *an |
| 16:45.04 | sag_ich_nicht | what the bloody hell |
| 16:45.04 | sag_ich_nicht | creative released new drivers for my soundcard? |
| 16:45.07 | sag_ich_nicht | that's the first time... in about 4 years. |
| 16:45.16 | TS|Skrom | lol |
| 16:45.18 | Lopeppeppy | Response to Vista? |
| 16:45.31 | sag_ich_nicht | maybe. |
| 16:45.40 | sag_ich_nicht | lemme see if it completely breaks my audio system |
| 16:46.13 | Lopeppeppy | Remember that 2.2 has huge sound changes... so you may yet see a "break". I thank the gods for driver roll back sometimes. |
| 16:46.57 | sag_ich_nicht | heh |
| 16:46.59 | sag_ich_nicht | can only get better |
| 16:47.14 | sag_ich_nicht | WTB 5.1 environmental sounds |
| 16:47.18 | Lopeppeppy | Knock on wood, my friend, 'cause that's not true. |
| 16:47.36 | sag_ich_nicht | worse is better |
| 16:47.42 | sag_ich_nicht | it gives me a reason to try and fix it |
| 16:48.09 | TS|Skrom | why DOES accept trade require a hardware event? if someone's stupid enough to download a mod that will give all their gold away then meh, more gold for me |
| 16:48.12 | sag_ich_nicht | which leads to an overall system improvement since i'll probably stumble upon a million other problems in the process of that, which i'm too lazy to investigate until then |
| 16:48.26 | sag_ich_nicht | TS|Skrom because of exactly what you said. |
| 16:48.47 | TS|Skrom | but but... there's so many good uses it could have to be blocked across the board :( |
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| 16:48.57 | Lopeppeppy | TS|Skrom -- I think to help prevent a few of the scam reports. It's like... adding the confirmation to the Master Looter frame to prevent tons of tickets for mislooting. |
| 16:49.28 | sag_ich_nicht | [18:48] <TS|Skrom> but but... there's so many good uses it could have to be blocked across the board :( <--the same is true for half of the protected functions :P |
| 16:49.34 | sag_ich_nicht | (or even more) |
| 16:50.11 | sag_ich_nicht | okay |
| 16:50.13 | sag_ich_nicht | time to reboot |
| 16:50.14 | sag_ich_nicht | bbiab |
| 16:50.27 | TS|Skrom | there's no good reason to unprotect the movement functions imo |
| 16:50.39 | TS|Skrom | or casting.. even though I loved my heal helper addon I like that change |
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| 16:51.45 | zenzelezz | some people in my guild have yet to learn this: http://img106.imageshack.us/img106/4795/gallery52310512oz3.png |
| 16:51.50 | TS|Skrom | can someone summarize for me why perrealm saved variables was declined? |
| 16:52.19 | TS|Skrom | zenzelezz XD |
| 16:52.49 | Gnancy | zenzelezz: thats not just your guild ..... there are a few in every bunch |
| 16:52.54 | Lopeppeppy | zenzelezz -- lag? *shrug* |
| 16:53.08 | zenzelezz | Lopeppeppy: nope, just recklessness :-) |
| 16:53.14 | Lopeppeppy | But there's always someone... the tank who uses Thunderclap and interrupts 3 CC targets, then says "oops". |
| 16:53.43 | Gnancy | just last night i tried to time it with my skywich drap |
| 16:53.47 | MentalPower|Work | TS|Skrom: short answer: they do not want to encourage database mods |
| 16:53.54 | Gnancy | i forgot that the elevator comes back up |
| 16:54.17 | TS|Skrom | Really! |
| 16:54.32 | MentalPower|Work | ie: auctioneer, lootlink, et al |
| 16:54.37 | TS|Skrom | And that's all perrealm could be used for I suppose lol but yeah that makes a little sense |
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| 16:58.43 | sag_ich_nicht | well this seems to have improved my EAX. |
| 16:59.35 | TS|Skrom | [quote]Druids |
| 16:59.35 | TS|Skrom | Addons able to shapeshift immediately to the desire form so why not implementing it by default ? it's only tedious for these who don't use addons or these who are new to the game and addons overall. |
| 16:59.40 | TS|Skrom | I don't get what he's asking for |
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| 17:00.28 | sag_ich_nicht | shift from bear to cat "instantly" |
| 17:00.32 | sag_ich_nicht | the addons don't even do it instantly |
| 17:00.48 | sag_ich_nicht | if you have a laggy situation it'll probably even break :P |
| 17:01.05 | TS|Skrom | how could they? it takes about a second for the game to realize you shifted anyway |
| 17:01.40 | sag_ich_nicht | it's faster than clicking anyway :P |
| 17:01.49 | sag_ich_nicht | or pressing the buttons |
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| 17:02.07 | TS|Skrom | ahh, I just mapped neat little macros to my buttons 3,4 and 5 |
| 17:02.19 | TS|Skrom | the macros I use prevent me from leaving the form when spamming it |
| 17:02.26 | TS|Skrom | which was always my issue |
| 17:02.43 | sag_ich_nicht | let's see what happens in WoW with the new drivers |
| 17:03.46 | TS|Skrom | |Jelly| hehe |
| 17:03.52 | TS|Skrom | "I can't read!" |
| 17:06.11 | sag_ich_nicht | holy |
| 17:06.12 | sag_ich_nicht | 7/16 19:03:03.953 Channels: 93 (0 software, 32 2D hardware(dsound), 61 3D hardware) |
| 17:06.21 | sag_ich_nicht | the new driver doubled my hardware 3D channels D: |
| 17:06.53 | Mr_Rabies2 | http://www.wowhead.com/?screenshot=view&3.31332#21571 |
| 17:06.53 | Mr_Rabies2 | rofl |
| 17:08.20 | JoshBorke | poor rat |
| 17:08.25 | JoshBorke | what'd he ever do? |
| 17:09.13 | Lopeppeppy | Rats am fun to make into skewers. Ask the guy in the tram. |
| 17:12.05 | sag_ich_nicht | i wish driver upgrades would always cause such awesome effects |
| 17:13.25 | Lopeppeppy | I wish my driver updates were positive experiences too! |
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| 17:33.47 | |FF|Im2good4u | does dev tools have any improved error messages ? |
| 17:34.00 | clad|book | huh? |
| 17:34.26 | |FF|Im2good4u | well maybe some more info ;P |
| 17:34.36 | foxlit | no. |
| 17:34.42 | clad|book | an error message is an error message, the only think you can add is a stack traceback |
| 17:34.45 | clad|book | devtools does not do this |
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| 17:37.43 | |FF|Im2good4u | oke |
| 17:38.14 | sag_ich_nicht | http://www.wow-europe.com/en/info/basics/talents/paladin/talents.html?0550310200000000000005025103023320020000005023500002000000000000 <--someone tell me if that's a stupid or a good idea for pvp :P |
| 17:38.17 | Bam__ | I'm still working on an error tool that will tell you what to fix exactly when it encounters a bug.... :P |
| 17:39.36 | foxlit | I'll settle for a "PEBCAK" error message :) |
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| 17:40.09 | Bam__ | well I'm kinda stuck a bit.. not sure why.. :P |
| 17:40.13 | Lopeppeppy | Why not Sanc, sag_ich_nicht? Aura Mastery in PvP seems a bit useless, unless you're in tight enough quarters. |
| 17:41.00 | sag_ich_nicht | arena is pretty tight quarters :P |
| 17:41.38 | Lopeppeppy | Then do you really need the extra 10 yards? |
| 17:42.40 | sag_ich_nicht | aura range=30 yards |
| 17:42.43 | sag_ich_nicht | heal range=40 yards |
| 17:43.28 | Lopeppeppy | If they get out of range, at least they have some cue to come back. *shrug* But whatever, I don't PvP much, I'm just reflecting how uber I've been told Sanctuary is for PvP. |
| 17:43.50 | sag_ich_nicht | mhm, i dunno about that |
| 17:44.16 | Lopeppeppy | Give the build a few weeks' test run, see what you think. |
| 17:44.29 | sag_ich_nicht | meh, i am only theorycrafting here |
| 17:44.37 | sag_ich_nicht | i don't intend to respec any time soon :P |
| 17:45.18 | foxlit | What sort of PvP are you thinking of? :) |
| 17:45.28 | sag_ich_nicht | arena :) |
| 17:45.33 | foxlit | Format? |
| 17:46.06 | foxlit | There's a difference in what you'd want in 2v2 versus 5v5 |
| 17:46.18 | sag_ich_nicht | not sure about the team components yet, but 3v3 probably :P |
| 17:46.33 | foxlit | So, realistically, you're going to be healing |
| 17:48.29 | sag_ich_nicht | more or less, but i think a consistant healer who can't be killed as easily is better than one who heals a lot more but also dies a lot faster |
| 17:48.30 | foxlit | Might as well dump retribution points into something useful :) |
| 17:50.14 | sag_ich_nicht | nah, think longrange. eye for an eye is pretty evil, especially if you pop divine shield afterwards and heal yourself up afterwards, and the parry helps against melees(more than you'd think it does in my experience), altho some of the points may better be spent in benediction :) |
| 17:50.31 | sag_ich_nicht | -afterwards |
| 17:50.32 | sag_ich_nicht | >< |
| 17:50.51 | foxlit | 30% is rather sad. |
| 17:50.59 | Lopeppeppy | Don't heal while in Divine Shield. Bandage. |
| 17:51.16 | sag_ich_nicht | Lopeppeppy i know :P |
| 17:51.35 | foxlit | But anyhow, strategy versus paladin-backed teams: 1. Get paladin to bubble 2. Laugh. 3. Slaughter paladin when buble fades. |
| 17:51.36 | Lopeppeppy | Sorry, you said the words. *shrug* |
| 17:52.23 | sag_ich_nicht | [19:51] <foxlit> But anyhow, strategy versus paladin-backed teams: 1. Get paladin to bubble 2. Laugh. 3. Slaughter paladin when buble fades. <--that's why there is so much damage reduction, my intend is to survive a long time before i need DS |
| 17:53.02 | sag_ich_nicht | and i think blessed life isn't as good for that |
| 17:53.03 | sag_ich_nicht | >.> |
| 17:53.15 | foxlit | Your, um, damage reduction would have no effect versus casters? :) |
| 17:53.50 | sag_ich_nicht | spell warding, and the caster eats eye for an eye :) |
| 17:54.06 | foxlit | 30% of a crit is a joke :) |
| 17:54.10 | sag_ich_nicht | not really |
| 17:54.21 | foxlit | Yarly :) |
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| 17:54.23 | sag_ich_nicht | it adds up |
| 17:54.30 | sag_ich_nicht | i've seen it in the arena, a lot :) |
| 17:56.45 | foxlit | Plus, of course, dots don't crit. |
| 17:57.01 | foxlit | But hey, have fun :) |
| 17:57.09 | sag_ich_nicht | dots get nerfed in 2.2 :P |
| 17:57.16 | Lopeppeppy | Resilience will soon have an effect on dots. |
| 17:57.43 | foxlit | Doesn't change the uselessness of Eye for an Eye. |
| 17:58.05 | sag_ich_nicht | i'd say duell me, but that's not possible D: |
| 17:58.13 | sag_ich_nicht | *duel |
| 17:58.27 | foxlit | Paladins are hilarious, tbh :P |
| 17:58.43 | sag_ich_nicht | I eat mages and rogues. :O |
| 17:58.44 | Lopeppeppy | Yeah, yeah. What-EV-uh. |
| 17:59.03 | foxlit | < druid. |
| 17:59.15 | sag_ich_nicht | foxlit: that doesn't say anything, tell me which spec :P |
| 17:59.25 | sag_ich_nicht | only mages i really have a bit of problem with are frost mages |
| 17:59.29 | foxlit | Does it really matter? :) |
| 17:59.31 | sag_ich_nicht | but then i BoF and munch them. |
| 17:59.31 | sag_ich_nicht | :P |
| 17:59.33 | Lopeppeppy | < holy paladin, feral druid, combat rogue and baby holy priest |
| 17:59.43 | sag_ich_nicht | <--ret atm :) |
| 17:59.46 | foxlit | Feral outlasts your mana, resto outheals your dps, and balance moonfires you in the face |
| 17:59.58 | Lopeppeppy | If they're lucky. *shrug* |
| 18:00.02 | sag_ich_nicht | no, resto dies. |
| 18:00.06 | sag_ich_nicht | balance is luck |
| 18:00.15 | sag_ich_nicht | and feral, well i'm fucked against a feral :P |
| 18:00.30 | Lopeppeppy | If not, feral gets DPS'd down, resto gets crunched, and balance goes all OOMkin and dies. |
| 18:00.49 | sag_ich_nicht | nah |
| 18:00.56 | sag_ich_nicht | feral shifts into bear and has 30k armor |
| 18:01.09 | sag_ich_nicht | and some insane amount of dodge |
| 18:01.13 | sag_ich_nicht | :P |
| 18:01.22 | sag_ich_nicht | (and hp, to add to that) |
| 18:01.30 | foxlit | Tbh, the value of a paladin versus any of those specs is really measured in the amount of time they can keep them occupied |
| 18:01.40 | Lopeppeppy | Then I shouldn't be playing against Tier 5 druids? *shrug* |
| 18:01.54 | sag_ich_nicht | you don't need T5 for that, at all |
| 18:01.59 | sag_ich_nicht | you don't even need T4 |
| 18:02.00 | sag_ich_nicht | >.> |
| 18:02.37 | Lopeppeppy | Meh. |
| 18:03.07 | Lopeppeppy | We can smack talk against classes back and forth all day. Not going to change a thing -- it's about playstyle and skill and connection speed, not spec or class. |
| 18:03.30 | sag_ich_nicht | QED |
| 18:03.43 | sag_ich_nicht | wait |
| 18:03.48 | sag_ich_nicht | we can always smack talk one class |
| 18:03.50 | sag_ich_nicht | WLs are OP! |
| 18:03.55 | sag_ich_nicht | nerf! |
| 18:04.10 | Lopeppeppy | Wombat. |
| 18:04.23 | foxlit | MS is OP, discuss. |
| 18:04.24 | sag_ich_nicht | wait what. |
| 18:04.43 | sag_ich_nicht | lol MS |
| 18:05.47 | Lopeppeppy | Kangaroo. |
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| 18:28.21 | Valaron|Work | Gah. |
| 18:29.19 | Lopeppeppy | Gah? |
| 18:31.38 | Valaron|Work | I keep forgetting that my office computer running Vista is hosed, and that watching inline Quicktime videos will crash Firefox. |
| 18:32.04 | Valaron|Work | So much for watching E3 videos at work. |
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| 18:59.08 | krka | anyone know of a good Autoit replacement? possibly for linux |
| 18:59.13 | krka | (otherwise i'll wine it) |
| 19:01.18 | TS|Skrom_ | I never thought I'd have to be more specific then "reboot the firewall"... |
| 19:01.36 | TS|Skrom_ | this guy in Kansas city just thought I meant to unplug the modem cable from the firewall when I said reboot |
| 19:03.03 | Lopeppeppy | Well.... that's one way to reboot a modem, just unplug it.... |
| 19:03.19 | TS|Skrom_ | however that wouldn't do a thing to the firewall :D |
| 19:04.10 | Lopeppeppy | Modem, firewall, what's the difference? :P Average user = PEBKAC. |
| 19:04.26 | TS|Skrom_ | lol |
| 19:05.39 | Lopeppeppy | Yuk it up, Fuzzball, but I'm right, aren't I? *grin* |
| 19:06.15 | TS|Skrom_ | in most cases, oddly this guy knew which one the firewall was (the white one that' |
| 19:06.19 | TS|Skrom_ | 's labled 3com) |
| 19:06.31 | TS|Skrom_ | he just didn't know what I meant by "reboot" |
| 19:07.05 | Lopeppeppy | Well... half educated is a start. |
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| 19:13.48 | sag_ich_nicht | cog|work: something is wrong with AutoDND 100%, it's even setting me dnd when i remove the afk flag |
| 19:14.22 | cog|work | sag_ich_nicht: someone else reported that problem on curse... It seems like it's not setting enabled to false at some point |
| 19:14.52 | cog|work | I haven't been able to look at it in detail at all this morning... very busy time at work |
| 19:15.04 | sag_ich_nicht | yeah no big deal :) |
| 19:15.14 | TS|Skrom_ | You too cog|work? |
| 19:15.33 | Valaron|Work | It's grape harvesting season. |
| 19:15.34 | TS|Skrom_ | I got 4 branch offices having intermittent connection problems since 8:30 |
| 19:15.53 | TS|Skrom_ | one will go up, two others go down |
| 19:16.01 | Valaron|Work | Hmm. |
| 19:16.15 | TS|Skrom_ | finally got all 4 up just now |
| 19:16.23 | TS|Skrom_ | hopefully it will stay that way |
| 19:16.33 | cog|work | Valaron|Work: harvest is still a few weeks out... we just sent out our mailing list offerings though and are receiving ~400 orders/day |
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| 19:17.06 | Valaron|Work | Hmm.. I'll have to try some of your winery's stuff next time I'm in the area. |
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| 19:17.42 | cog|work | We actually sell it all through the retail mailing list except one bottling which is distributed to restaurants :| |
| 19:18.28 | Valaron|Work | No in-house? |
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| 19:18.48 | cog|work | nope. Don't even keep the bottled wine here... it's sent to a warehouse in Santa Rosa |
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| 19:19.10 | Kirkburn|afk | Aah, Cairenn, Cairenn everywhere! |
| 19:19.11 | cog|work | We don't even have enough parking spaces for the employees, let alone visitors :P |
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| 19:19.26 | zenzelezz | [...] whispers: makes me really angry [...] whispers: and sad in my pants |
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| 19:22.17 | Valaron|Work | Taking my gf to SF this weekend. She's never been to the Piers. |
| 19:22.33 | Kirov | going to pier 38? |
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| 19:23.03 | Valaron|Work | 39.... Fisherman's Wharf. |
| 19:23.31 | Valaron|Work | and probably Chinatown if time permits. |
| 19:23.49 | Kirov | pier 39 isn't Fisherman'sWarf |
| 19:24.18 | Valaron|Work | I know. |
| 19:24.20 | TS|Skrom_ | Take her to pier 42, she'll find her answers there |
| 19:24.31 | Kirov | heh |
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| 19:25.36 | Kirov | I live by pier 42 |
| 19:25.42 | Kirov | er, work |
| 19:26.01 | Valaron|Work | Hmm |
| 19:26.07 | Valaron|Work | I haven't been to SF in years. |
| 19:26.09 | Kirov | It's parking |
| 19:26.15 | Kirov | near the ball park |
| 19:26.16 | Valaron|Work | Yah |
| 19:26.26 | Valaron|Work | Wha? |
| 19:26.39 | Kirov | 2-42 are south of market |
| 19:26.46 | Kirov | 1-45 are north |
| 19:26.49 | Valaron|Work | Yeah |
| 19:27.25 | TS|Skrom_ | I didn't even know there was a pier 42, I was just making a HGttG joke |
| 19:27.34 | Kirov | yeah, I know |
| 19:27.45 | TS|Skrom_ | oh hey it's monday |
| 19:27.57 | TS|Skrom_ | that's rent one get one free day at blockbuster.. i think I'll rent that tonight |
| 19:28.24 | TS|Skrom_ | awww lopepeppy left |
| 19:28.45 | TS|Skrom_ | was gonna tell her that 'the girl' is coming over tomorrow with her sister and brother in law for dinner ^^ |
| 19:29.06 | TS|Skrom_ | I'm making taco salad fixins with fajita steak strips and chicken grilled out :-) |
| 19:30.25 | Kirov | hmm... are there any working mods out there that allow for macros over 255 characters? |
| 19:31.08 | Valaron|Work | SuperMacro doesn't work? |
| 19:31.22 | Valaron|Work | I haven't had to use that Mod in a long while. |
| 19:33.42 | Kirov | It hasn't been updated in a while |
| 19:33.51 | Kirov | wasn't sure if it still worked or not |
| 19:34.03 | Valaron|Work | ui.worldofwar.net has a May 31st update date. |
| 19:34.47 | Kirov | Yeah, looking at it. Looks like it works still. |
| 19:35.15 | Kirov | A way around the limit in 2.0 just dawned on me, but it looks like SuperMacro already does it. |
| 19:35.44 | Valaron|Work | The only other one I saw was BigMacro, but that hasn't been updated since 2006. |
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| 19:55.42 | krka | i have a weird font bug... one of my fontstrings doesnt line up properly |
| 19:56.00 | krka | they are all created the same, just with different y-offsets |
| 19:56.28 | krka | anyone know what could be the problem? |
| 19:56.44 | krka | they are all anchored topleft relative to the parents topleft |
| 19:58.42 | sag_ich_nicht | uuuuuuuuuuuuuuh |
| 19:58.43 | sag_ich_nicht | bad me |
| 19:59.06 | sag_ich_nicht | Transformers.TS... i am so bad D: |
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| 20:03.08 | krka | no one? :/ |
| 20:03.57 | |FF|Im2good4u | well iv had the same problem but i never figured out wut went wrong :P |
| 20:04.09 | sag_ich_nicht | krka: fontstrings are bugged atm iirc |
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| 20:06.01 | krka | hmm never mind, figured it out |
| 20:06.09 | krka | different fonts |
| 20:06.24 | krka | both had "-" as text, but different spacing i guess |
| 20:09.46 | sag_ich_nicht | | |
| 20:09.48 | sag_ich_nicht | erm |
| 20:09.50 | sag_ich_nicht | |Jelly| |
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| 20:14.47 | sag_ich_nicht | https://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=330653412&sid=1 <--heh, i still have that addon lying around somewhere here(no, not using it. just kept it for curiousities sake)... don't know why people still think it's legal >_< |
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| 21:07.22 | TC-Holding | http://www.funnieststuff.net/viewmovie.php?ad_key=PYIPCQCAHKYA&tracking_id=799153&id=529 |
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| 21:26.59 | cog|work | Does UNIT_TARGET fire if your target changes targets? |
| 21:27.55 | zenzelezz | I think it does, but I'm not sure |
| 21:28.04 | Cide | I doubt it |
| 21:28.45 | cog|work | hrm... I remember something about the blizz code using an OnUpdate to display/hide the TargetofTargetFrame so bleh... |
| 21:29.05 | Cide | yep |
| 21:30.05 | Cide | actually it looks like UNIT_TARGET fires with arg1 "target" |
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| 21:30.44 | cog|work | sweet |
| 21:32.56 | Cide | yeah, it does |
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| 21:52.22 | Mr_Rabies2 | bonk |
| 21:54.13 | cog|work | yoing |
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| 22:34.51 | cog|work | hi, clad|book's boyfriend |
| 22:34.57 | clad|book | lol |
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| 23:06.34 | Mr_Rabies2 | http://media.worldofwarcraft.com/blizzcon/iammurloc/iammurloc_en.html |
| 23:06.36 | Mr_Rabies2 | freakin awesome |
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| 23:11.15 | Mr_Rabies2 | i love L70ETC |
| 23:11.40 | Mr_Rabies2 | i hope they're added into the darkmoon faire or anywhere in the game world after blizzcon |
| 23:11.55 | Kaydeethree | didn't they get added to the .mpqs recently? |
| 23:12.03 | Mr_Rabies2 | using those models for one thing, especially since they're in everyone's game files |
| 23:12.06 | Mr_Rabies2 | seems like a waste |
| 23:12.14 | Mr_Rabies2 | yeah, Kaydeethree |
| 23:12.31 | Mr_Rabies2 | and the song is labeled as L70ETC_DMF_Song.mp3 or something |
| 23:12.39 | Mr_Rabies2 | it's the one from warcraft 3 at the moment, though |
| 23:12.48 | Mr_Rabies2 | DMF = darkmoonfaire |
| 23:12.51 | Mr_Rabies2 | i think |
| 23:12.53 | Kaydeethree | ya |
| 23:13.27 | Mr_Rabies2 | check that video out^ |
| 23:13.34 | Kaydeethree | I saw. twas funny |
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| 23:21.47 | Kaydeethree | hm... is the voice comms handler only in the raid frames? scanning through the diff, haven't seen it anywhere else yet |
| 23:28.54 | Mr_Rabies2 | http://www.thottbot.com/?s=L70ETC |
| 23:29.03 | Mr_Rabies2 | heh, they've gotta be adding them then |
| 23:29.36 | Kaydeethree | meh... considering all of the other crap in the mpqs that we're never going to use... |
| 23:29.45 | Kaydeethree | read: emerald dream et al |
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| 23:35.58 | Mr_Rabies2 | i doubt they'll utterly scrap the dream |
| 23:36.09 | Mr_Rabies2 | they'll probably change it around a bunch |
| 23:36.23 | Mr_Rabies2 | since as of now it's got two sections that are only barely started on |
| 23:42.41 | Corrodias | correct |
| 23:43.04 | Corrodias | at least, i recall reading something like that in an interview. as far as i know, they're definitely planning to have the emerald dream and northrend in wow in the future |
| 23:43.39 | Kaydeethree | northrend, emerald dream, undermine/the great sea/maelstrom are all possible expansion possibilities |
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| 23:43.54 | Kaydeethree | just hope we get to use flying mounts... |
| 23:44.14 | Kaydeethree | and ick. can't use audio at all trying to play on the ptr... none of wine's drivers are working |
| 23:44.19 | Corrodias | you know, i've told WoW to use the launcher. it never does. |
| 23:44.31 | Thelyna | you're not missing much |
| 23:44.35 | Kaydeethree | does your shortcut point to WoW.exe or Launcher.exe? |
| 23:44.50 | Corrodias | probably wow.exe. i thought they combined them into one executable recently. |
| 23:45.20 | Kaydeethree | dunno. there's still a launcher.exe in my wow directory |
| 23:51.40 | Garoun|Loupana | Does anyone knwo if Enchant Ring - Striking effects druid in forms |
| 23:52.01 | Garoun|Loupana | I realized after getting Revered with Consort that it may have been a waste of time :( |
| 23:52.19 | buu | Garoun|Loupana: What do they give you? |
| 23:53.07 | Garoun|Loupana | http://www.wowhead.com/?item=22535 |
| 23:53.33 | Garoun|Loupana | this is the actual enchant: http://www.wowhead.com/?spell=27920 |
| 23:53.53 | Garoun|Loupana | the problem is the recipe says "physical attacks" but the actual enchant says weapon damage :/ |
| 23:55.47 | Garoun|Loupana | I'd enchant it and test, but the mats are rather expensive for a 'test' |
