| 00:00.13 | Mystiq | i dont remember |
| 00:00.24 | Yinxie | ok |
| 00:00.35 | Yinxie | btw what u recon to be good sites for wow lua? |
| 00:00.50 | cladhaire | Mystiq: don't put your scripts in the xml file unless you need to, use the .toc file |
| 00:00.51 | Yinxie | if ya dont bother me asking ofc |
| 00:00.55 | Mystiq | if it was jsut dealing with LUA i'd have been set years ago |
| 00:01.01 | cladhaire | Mystiq: and just pull the ui/namespace decl fro another addon |
| 00:01.08 | cladhaire | Mystiq: you can do everything in .lua, no need for .xml files anymore |
| 00:01.13 | cladhaire | unless you need to create an xml template |
| 00:01.15 | cladhaire | if you choose not to. |
| 00:01.17 | Mystiq | sweet, i hate them |
| 00:01.30 | Mystiq | how you do declare the scripts file in the toc? lol |
| 00:02.08 | cladhaire | just FileName.lua |
| 00:02.11 | cladhaire | instead of FileName.xml |
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| 00:03.09 | Yinxie | guys current version is 20100? |
| 00:03.32 | Mystiq | its supposed to run ModName_Init() first, no? |
| 00:04.02 | Mystiq | yeah |
| 00:04.08 | Mystiq | newb moment |
| 00:04.28 | Yinxie | clad can i start a /w with u? if you have a moment? |
| 00:04.37 | cladhaire | Yinxie: any reason you can't ask here? |
| 00:04.51 | cladhaire | Mystiq: The entire file gets run, not any specific functions |
| 00:05.10 | Yinxie | uhm it involves loosing face in public, feeling noob etc.. i'd appreciate it :) |
| 00:05.18 | Tain | The entire bottle gets run, not any specific ounces. |
| 00:05.25 | Tain | s/run/drunk/ |
| 00:05.56 | cladhaire | Yinxie: Nothing you ask will be any more embarassing than questions all of us have asked.. I'd rather answer it here (we don't bite, unless you're asking about model changing or private servers) |
| 00:05.57 | cladhaire | I promise |
| 00:06.38 | Yinxie | well then |
| 00:07.24 | cladhaire | =) |
| 00:08.05 | Yinxie | Here goes lol: Actually im not an experienced lua coder, the need to code lua has risen upon me, and i felt that i should go and learn. so i thought i'd start reading up and came upon this IRC. now im startingwith rebuilding an old addon, currently working altough not updated since january. but i was wondering if you have any good websites so i can teach myself ... |
| 00:08.24 | cladhaire | the best place right now to start is wowwiki.com |
| 00:08.37 | cladhaire | if you have anything more specific, like the type of addon you're working on there might be better resources we can point you to specifically |
| 00:08.50 | abug | or cladhaire's book |
| 00:09.02 | Yinxie | cladhaire's book? |
| 00:09.13 | cladhaire | our book has four chapters on writing addons, but it moves pretty quickly and isn't horribly comprehensive |
| 00:09.15 | Kaso | Updating an old addon is always a rather hard task, you have to get used to the other person's coding style, and usually people dont comment thier addon code well :< |
| 00:09.28 | Yinxie | ok |
| 00:09.40 | cladhaire | we have another book coming out this year (we're writing it now) but that won't be out until the end of the year. |
| 00:09.40 | Yinxie | clad u got an online version or just offline? |
| 00:09.47 | cladhaire | just in print right now, afaik |
| 00:09.52 | Kaso | s/hard task/hard first task/ |
| 00:10.39 | cladhaire | i will be back in one moment, need to restart irc |
| 00:10.43 | Yinxie | rgr |
| 00:11.58 | cladhaire | back |
| 00:12.32 | Yinxie | welcome back |
| 00:12.36 | cladhaire | heh |
| 00:12.49 | cladhaire | thanks. |
| 00:13.11 | Yinxie | anyway what if i got this great addon and they stopped supporting it, isnt it a good way to learn lua code to observe ones coding and learn to improve that? |
| 00:13.46 | Kaso | Trying to leap straight into someone else code can be confusing i think |
| 00:13.58 | cladhaire | it can be good for some things, if you can figure out what they're doing |
| 00:14.03 | cladhaire | but it can be hella confusing, as Kaso says |
| 00:14.19 | Yinxie | ok |
| 00:14.34 | Kaso | without knowing the basics, you can mistake other peoples (bad) habbits for things that are part of the language, and pick them up, which is never an ideal thing either |
| 00:14.43 | cladhaire | which addon in particular? |
| 00:14.49 | Yinxie | Necrosis ;) |
| 00:15.49 | Yinxie | so you would have me start on http://www.wowwiki.com/AddOns? |
| 00:16.43 | cladhaire | does this addon no longer work? |
| 00:16.44 | cladhaire | http://wow-en.curse-gaming.com/downloads/details/2213/ |
| 00:18.06 | Yinxie | see the first or 2nd comment, the guy doing it stopped maintaining |
| 00:18.14 | Yinxie | ive emailed him, no response |
| 00:19.48 | Yinxie | so i just wanna try continue that.. and rebuild it to english lol |
| 00:23.10 | abug | http://www.wowwiki.com/Category:HOWTOs has some good stuff too |
| 00:24.05 | abug | although some of it is a little dated |
| 00:25.01 | Yinxie | ok |
| 00:25.24 | Yinxie | btw should i read normal lua coding books / pages too? or is that useless? |
| 00:25.37 | abug | purl, pil |
| 00:25.38 | purl | it has been said that pil is Programming in Lua. The first edition is available free online at http://www.lua.org/pil and covers Lua 5.0. The second edition is available in hardcover and covers Lua 5.1. |
| 00:25.48 | Tem | *sigh* |
| 00:25.53 | Tem | 20860/21000 |
| 00:25.59 | Tem | and no quests left until tomorrow |
| 00:26.03 | cladhaire | =/ |
| 00:26.06 | Yinxie | lol |
| 00:26.20 | Yinxie | skyguard or netherwing? |
| 00:26.25 | Tem | ogri'la |
| 00:26.33 | Tem | if it was netherwing I'd go farm an egg |
| 00:26.56 | abug | ogri'la has decent rewards for your class? |
| 00:27.16 | Tem | no |
| 00:27.21 | Tem | I just have shitty gear |
| 00:27.29 | Tem | and the tabbard matches my robe |
| 00:27.48 | Tem | the new rep rewards are made of fail |
| 00:28.00 | Tem | probably because the grind to exalted is too easy |
| 00:28.35 | Yinxie | lol ok |
| 00:28.41 | Yinxie | rofl |
| 00:29.04 | Yinxie | ur revered to all heroic instances? |
| 00:29.05 | abug | @yinxie: it can be useful to read things about lua in general, just keep in mind that not everything can be used in a wow addon |
| 00:29.45 | Tem | I still need rep with HH and CE |
| 00:30.00 | Tem | but I hate the only instance I can use to get rep >< |
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| 00:30.39 | Yinxie | ye same here i need TK, HH and Auch, all close (1k) but need 6k for TK and i just hate Arca |
| 00:30.45 | abug | http://www.wowwiki.com/Lua_functions is |
| 00:30.48 | abug | nice too |
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| 00:31.35 | Yinxie | thnx bug :) |
| 00:32.20 | Tem | Yinxie, do botan or mech? |
| 00:33.05 | Yinxie | im already honored, dont think i get rep there? |
| 00:33.27 | Yinxie | i though from honored to revered its 1 instance of the 3 in the rep group |
| 00:33.42 | abug | by the way, anyone good at batch files? |
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| 00:34.28 | Cide | you get rep all the way to exalted in all TK instances |
| 00:34.30 | Tem | you can rep in all 70-tuned instances until 70 |
| 00:34.35 | Tem | which is all the TK instances |
| 00:34.42 | Yinxie | cool |
| 00:34.43 | Tem | s/until 70/until exalted/ |
| 00:34.46 | Yinxie | screw arca :) |
| 00:35.03 | Yinxie | btw guys was wondering |
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| 00:35.06 | Tem | you get rep in the non-70-tuned instances until honored |
| 00:35.23 | Yinxie | have u got a good way of testing an addon rather then starting wow? |
| 00:35.35 | Tem | you can use standalone lue |
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| 00:35.57 | cladhaire | lue ftw |
| 00:36.13 | Yinxie | uhm (A) |
| 00:36.23 | Yinxie | thats a program i suppose? |
| 00:36.56 | cladhaire | no he's talking about the lua interpreter |
| 00:37.04 | cladhaire | but that really only checks the syntax of your code |
| 00:37.08 | cladhaire | doesn't really "Test" the addon |
| 00:37.17 | Yinxie | ok |
| 00:37.37 | Yinxie | well cause im changing the toc of this addon and the addon dissapeared off the addon list ingame |
| 00:38.19 | kaiden | >>>print "I Love You" |
| 00:38.19 | Cide | kaiden: "I Love You" |
| 00:38.23 | Yinxie | any change its because of loadondemand? |
| 00:38.28 | kaiden | i know you do! I love you too Cide |
| 00:38.57 | cladhaire | Yinxie: Can you pastey the .toc for us? |
| 00:39.11 | cladhaire | Yinxie: Some changes to the .toc require you to exit the game, but it shoudln't just disappear, i don't think. |
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| 00:40.09 | Yinxie | you want the before or the after? |
| 00:41.27 | Yinxie | ## Interface: 20003 |
| 00:41.28 | Yinxie | ## Title: Necrosis |
| 00:41.28 | Yinxie | ## Title-frFR: Necrosis |
| 00:41.28 | Yinxie | ## Author: Lomig, Liadora & Eliah |
| 00:41.28 | Yinxie | ## Version: 2.0 |
| 00:41.28 | Yinxie | ## Notes: Shard managment UI |
| 00:41.29 | Yinxie | ## Notes-frFR: Gestion graphique des shards. |
| 00:41.31 | Yinxie | ## eMail: lomig@larmes-cenarius.net |
| 00:41.33 | Yinxie | ## URL: http://necrosis.larmes-cenarius.net |
| 00:41.35 | Yinxie | ## DefaultState: Enabled |
| 00:41.37 | Yinxie | ## LoadOnDemand: 0 |
| 00:41.39 | Yinxie | ## SavedVariablesPerCharacter: NecrosisConfig |
| 00:41.41 | Yinxie | # |
| 00:41.43 | Yinxie | Necrosis.xml |
| 00:41.45 | Yinxie | thats before |
| 00:41.54 | cladhaire | ack |
| 00:41.55 | KriLL3 | you're doing it wrong |
| 00:41.55 | cladhaire | please |
| 00:42.02 | cladhaire | when we say pastey.. that eans use pastey.net |
| 00:42.06 | Yinxie | ow shit lol |
| 00:42.10 | cladhaire | as in the topic of this channel |
| 00:42.11 | Yinxie | my bad |
| 00:42.13 | cladhaire | that way you don't spam us. |
| 00:42.16 | KriLL3 | no flood bot in here? :| |
| 00:42.31 | cladhaire | i kick normally if i see spam |
| 00:42.32 | Yinxie | my bad, sorry ppl |
| 00:44.42 | Yinxie | http://wowi.pastey.net/70508 |
| 00:46.07 | Yinxie | changed into http://wowi.pastey.net/70509 |
| 00:47.11 | Yinxie | then i just stopped showing up |
| 00:48.29 | Yinxie | krill3: soz for that spam mate ;) |
| 00:49.04 | KriLL3 | np, but you should know not to multi line like that in IRC |
| 00:49.46 | Arrowmaster | Yinxie: its not showing up on the addons list or not showing up ingame? |
| 00:50.55 | Yinxie | neither |
| 00:51.15 | Yinxie | it wouldnt show up in the list and when i launched it didnt do anything |
| 00:51.34 | KriLL3 | well if it doesn't show in the list it doesn't load |
| 00:52.10 | Thelyna | is the folder structure right? |
| 00:52.13 | Yinxie | yes |
| 00:52.44 | Yinxie | same addon with the first toc file worked, and showed up |
| 00:54.17 | Yinxie | hm i removed the 1 after loadondemand and works now.. |
| 00:54.42 | Yinxie | made it a 0 ofc.. not sure why though but still |
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| 01:19.31 | cladhaire | anyone here have experience with init.d scripts on centos? |
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| 01:25.46 | Yinxie | soz clad i dont.. |
| 01:27.23 | Yinxie | id love to help but hey im noob ;) |
| 01:27.47 | Yinxie | or can i say miranda? |
| 01:35.38 | Yinxie | anyway im going off.. its 3:35 here and i stil got to sleep |
| 01:35.49 | Yinxie | ill be on at 9.45 - 10.30 around there |
| 01:35.51 | Yinxie | nn all |
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| 01:39.32 | Bleeter | cladhaire: experienced with init.d on Fedora, I guess that counts ;) |
| 01:39.48 | cladhaire | yeah it does, i found what i needed.. but i may ping ya later =) |
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| 02:40.32 | AnduinLothar | woah. opera just reset on us.. |
| 02:40.49 | AnduinLothar | fear through the door? |
| 02:40.59 | AnduinLothar | the CLOSED door.. |
| 02:41.40 | cladhaire | =/ |
| 02:43.40 | MentalPower | gnight guys |
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| 02:58.25 | Nom- | hmmm |
| 02:58.36 | Nom- | Anyone noticed Prince and Heroic Trash bugging out ? |
| 02:59.16 | Nom- | The Shattered Hand Heathens in Heroic Shattered Halls were effectively old-school reckoning bombing non-tank plate (ie. me) and anyone else who happened to pull aggro |
| 02:59.26 | Nom- | Got one-shotted (3 attacks in combat log) on more than one occasion |
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| 03:28.52 | abug | how did wowace turn into a political discussion? |
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| 03:31.31 | Bleeter | abug: dunno, better off asking in #wowace? |
| 03:54.09 | KriLL3 | wowui is slow atm... |
| 03:55.08 | Cairenn | ? |
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| 03:56.25 | KriLL3 | takes ages to load pages |
| 03:56.49 | Cairenn | what site? |
| 03:57.02 | KriLL3 | ... told you |
| 03:57.11 | Cairenn | wowui |
| 03:57.16 | Cairenn | no idea what site that is |
| 03:57.19 | KriLL3 | wowui.incgamers.com |
| 03:57.34 | Cairenn | ah, see, I didn't know their "new name" |
| 03:57.42 | Cairenn | I'm still used to calling it ui.wow.net |
| 04:05.01 | KriLL3 | anyone knows of an updated version of lootlink and minimap button bag? both giving me game halting errors... |
| 04:05.54 | Cairenn | whose version of lootlink? |
| 04:06.08 | KriLL3 | ... one that works? |
| 04:07.48 | Cairenn | if you are used to using one, getting a different one that won't necessarily work with the saved variables file you have would be rather annoying I'd think |
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| 04:08.27 | KriLL3 | "LootLink 8.2.9" is what it says |
| 04:08.38 | KriLL3 | and it's making wow freeze |
| 04:08.43 | Cairenn | http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info6764-MinimapButtonBag.html - that's dated 22 Feb 07, seems not to have updated it recently - there are lots of other one that do similar things |
| 04:08.59 | Cairenn | open up the .toc and see if it gives an author name :p |
| 04:09.05 | Bleeter | there's several different lootlink variants, just saying a version number doesn't help |
| 04:09.09 | Bleeter | yeah, author name's important ;) |
| 04:09.34 | Cairenn | that's why I asked whose version, not what version |
| 04:09.50 | KriLL3 | ## Author: Saeris |
| 04:10.04 | Cairenn | http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info5608-SaerissLootLink.html |
| 04:10.25 | Cairenn | actually - http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info7233-SaerissLootLink8.2.9aFixed.html |
| 04:10.36 | KriLL3 | that's the one I got |
| 04:10.43 | Cairenn | the second link? |
| 04:10.57 | KriLL3 | first |
| 04:11.14 | Cairenn | as I said ... "actually, -" |
| 04:11.43 | KriLL3 | my error isn't listed in the fixes |
| 04:12.08 | KriLL3 | I'll go with telo's |
| 04:14.46 | KriLL3 | http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info6764-MinimapButtonBag.html second comment got same bug as I got, and no updates since then. :( |
| 04:15.06 | KriLL3 | "stack overflow" isn't fun to get, freezes the game for a long while |
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| 04:21.53 | Cide | so open the code and fix it :) |
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| 05:12.25 | Nom- | wtf? |
| 05:12.35 | Nom- | Some hunters are claiming to be soloing BT trash? |
| 05:32.39 | Guillotine | a couple of the trash are kiteable I believe |
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| 05:40.45 | Nom- | funny |
| 05:40.53 | Nom- | Apparently they're selling epic gems on the AH |
| 05:40.59 | Nom- | Because of that |
| 05:49.53 | Guillotine | it'll probably be fixed eventually. Same way the oozes were fixed from naxx |
| 05:50.17 | Nom- | Hmmm.... |
| 05:50.32 | Nom- | Some Retribution paladin on the forums was claiming to have topped his guilds' DPS on many fights |
| 05:50.57 | Nom- | I suspect he was being sarcastic, but I'd like to find the post again to see if he's posted any proof lol |
| 05:52.20 | Guillotine | I'd believe it |
| 05:52.26 | Guillotine | theres a ret pally in our guild |
| 05:52.28 | Guillotine | that does amazing dp |
| 05:52.30 | Guillotine | dps* |
| 05:52.37 | Shadowed | Nom- ret paladins do pretty good damage if you give them *the perfect* group |
| 05:52.58 | Shadowed | except, they have no threat reduction and can spike threat a lot and die quickly |
| 05:53.04 | Guillotine | often tops the damage meters by quite a bit when he doesn't have to watch aggro (e.g. on Shade) |
| 05:53.28 | Shadowed | they still require a lot more work then other DPS classes |
| 05:53.36 | Shadowed | and aren't really worthwhile since they have no threat reduction |
| 05:54.10 | Guillotine | right |
| 05:54.24 | Guillotine | if they had threat reduction, they would be perfectly viable DPS |
| 05:54.38 | Guillotine | as it is now, our pally has to DPS until hes just under tank, then heal for a bit while he waits |
| 05:54.40 | Guillotine | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:55.35 | Nom- | lol |
| 05:55.43 | Nom- | I can't even get close to the threat of the tank at the moment |
| 05:55.49 | Nom- | But i'm going to try the build I saw this guy had |
| 05:56.19 | Nom- | It was pretty much everything from retribution, precision from protection and strength from holy |
| 05:56.37 | Nom- | Pure DPS build, no question about that |
| 05:56.52 | Nom- | But since I'm only going to respec for Gruul, it doesn't bother me |
| 05:56.56 | Shadowed | Well Guillotine, the main issue is mainly the spike in threat |
| 05:57.15 | Shadowed | even playing it close to the tank, you still risk a chain of crits from WF or extra attack procs which puts you over and gets you killed |
| 05:57.38 | Nom- | Yeah, i'll have to get put into a melee group |
| 05:57.52 | Nom- | I think that was my problem... I usually get lumped in without highest DPS to buff them slightly |
| 05:57.57 | Nom- | And effectively wastes my raid slot |
| 05:58.19 | Guillotine | we actually have a holy dps priest now |
| 05:58.22 | Guillotine | whos doing amazingly well |
| 05:58.37 | Nom- | So what's the perfect group? Paladin/Shaman/Druid/Hunter/Warrior ? |
| 05:58.38 | Guillotine | works great with the ret pally |
| 05:59.05 | Nom- | lolsmite priest eh? |
| 05:59.09 | Guillotine | yup |
| 05:59.28 | Nom- | lolsmite priest + retribution paladin = good combo imho |
| 05:59.34 | Guillotine | even better |
| 05:59.40 | Guillotine | lolsmite priest+ret pally+balance druid |
| 05:59.47 | Guillotine | +the bug where surge of light can chain proc |
| 05:59.54 | Nom- | I suppose part of my problem is my gear |
| 06:00.09 | Nom- | I'm wearing a fair bit of warrior dps plate, which means i don't have the spell damage needed |
| 06:00.24 | Nom- | and a few pieces of warrior tank plate, which is even worse |
| 06:00.44 | Nom- | The wierd thing is though |
| 06:00.50 | Thunder_Child | I dub it "The triple Riple" |
| 06:00.57 | Nom- | We literally cannot down gruul when i'm not there |
| 06:01.02 | Nom- | So I dunno what's up with that |
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| 06:01.15 | JunkHead-Work | Yar! |
| 06:01.22 | Nom- | I went to the movies on our Gruul night last week, and our raid couldn't down him |
| 06:01.32 | Nom- | I come back, same raid on Monday, with just me swapped in for someone else |
| 06:01.34 | Nom- | We get him second try |
| 06:02.04 | JunkHead-Work | What class do you play? |
| 06:02.16 | Nom- | <-- Retribution Paladin |
| 06:02.19 | Nom- | Well, I am for Gruul |
| 06:02.23 | Shadowed | Did they fix the bug where you can keep SoL up "forever" with Inner Focus? |
| 06:02.27 | JunkHead-Work | What did they swap you out for? |
| 06:02.40 | Nom- | Umm.... Shadow Priest I think |
| 06:02.53 | Nom- | Oh, it was a druid sorry |
| 06:02.55 | Nom- | Feral Druid |
| 06:03.03 | JunkHead-Work | Hmm... |
| 06:03.05 | JunkHead-Work | Dunno. |
| 06:03.16 | JunkHead-Work | But I could understand it if it was a shadow priest. |
| 06:03.35 | Nom- | Well, this Feral Druid has rather low DPS :) |
| 06:03.47 | Guillotine | Shadowed: do tell more |
| 06:03.55 | Nom- | He's known as DC Cow |
| 06:04.00 | Nom- | Short for Disconnecting Cow |
| 06:04.02 | Shadowed | Can't recall the exacts of it, it was something like |
| 06:04.04 | JunkHead-Work | Haha |
| 06:04.17 | Guillotine | oh, b/c it didn't cost mana, it doesn't consume inner focus? And gives an extra 25% to crit which causes chain proc? |
| 06:04.21 | Nom- | He inherited the title from another of our druids who finally fixed his computer :P |
| 06:04.21 | Shadowed | oh wait not SoL |
| 06:04.33 | Shadowed | which is the one that procs off crit heals |
| 06:04.39 | Shadowed | SoL was only crit dmg abilities I Though? |
| 06:04.44 | Guillotine | any crit |
| 06:04.48 | Guillotine | can cause a free smite |
| 06:04.55 | JunkHead-Work | I was in a botanica group the other day. |
| 06:05.04 | JunkHead-Work | And we were going along ok. |
| 06:05.22 | JunkHead-Work | Until we got to that one boss, the hooved guy. Don't know his name. |
| 06:05.28 | Nom- | You found a Botanica group? |
| 06:05.34 | JunkHead-Work | Well, I had a phone call. |
| 06:05.41 | JunkHead-Work | Went afk for about... 5 minutes. |
| 06:05.49 | JunkHead-Work | As soon as I got back, Tank went afk. |
| 06:05.50 | Nom- | I'm lucky to find a group to stand around and laugh at Gnomes in Shattrath lately |
| 06:05.55 | JunkHead-Work | for over 20 minutes. |
| 06:05.59 | JunkHead-Work | We actually waited. |
| 06:06.06 | JunkHead-Work | Because we wanted to finish. |
| 06:06.24 | JunkHead-Work | He came back, we gave the boss a shot, we wiped. |
| 06:06.26 | JunkHead-Work | No big deal. |
| 06:06.39 | Nom- | hmm the last boss buffed him |
| 06:06.41 | Nom- | seriously |
| 06:06.44 | JunkHead-Work | We ressed and went back, all except the tank. |
| 06:06.48 | Nom- | the last patch buffed him i mean |
| 06:06.55 | JunkHead-Work | He went afk again in mid flight. |
| 06:06.59 | Shadowed | Was something like, once SoL procced you could use Inner Focus and it would never be consumed while your abilities were critting, and when you had like a 85-90% total chances to crit that was rather rare |
| 06:07.17 | JunkHead-Work | As soon as someone noticed, and mentioend it in party chat, I cast AB on us to start a timer. |
| 06:07.26 | JunkHead-Work | At 5 minutes, we portaled out. |
| 06:07.37 | JunkHead-Work | I stayed in the group to watch his afk status. |
| 06:07.48 | JunkHead-Work | I finally left the group after 12 minutes. |
| 06:08.15 | Guillotine | >< |
| 06:08.20 | JunkHead-Work | So he was afk for over 30 minutes in one run. |
| 06:08.26 | Nom- | lol |
| 06:08.38 | JunkHead-Work | The other guy in the group, was forming a new party. |
| 06:08.50 | JunkHead-Work | That's the only reason I left, so he could fill my spot. |
| 06:08.58 | JunkHead-Work | No clue what he did about the absent tank. |
| 06:09.16 | Nom- | Lately it's been near impossible to find groups when I play |
| 06:09.32 | Nom- | I need Botanica on my mage for the alchemy quest |
| 06:09.46 | Nom- | Shattered Halls on my Paladin for rep (nearly exalted for [Stormcaller]) |
| 06:09.47 | JunkHead-Work | I play in the morning time. |
| 06:09.55 | JunkHead-Work | So groups can be tough to find for me too. |
| 06:10.09 | Nom- | I play from about 7:00pm to 12:00am AWST |
| 06:10.13 | Nom- | GMT +0800 |
| 06:10.21 | JunkHead-Work | But since I raid in the morning, I only have about 2 hours to do other stuff before bed. |
| 06:10.30 | JunkHead-Work | So... yeah, it kinda sucks. |
| 06:10.38 | Nom- | We're going to 'The Eye' for the first time tonight |
| 06:10.40 | Nom- | So happy :D |
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| 06:10.50 | Nom- | Going to whack the loot pinata |
| 06:11.04 | Nom- | and..and..and |
| 06:11.07 | Nom- | SSC on Sunday! |
| 06:11.16 | Nom- | <-- Overjoyed! |
| 06:11.43 | JunkHead-Work | We haven't gotten that far yet. |
| 06:11.49 | JunkHead-Work | We've downed Gruul twice so far. |
| 06:11.54 | Nom- | Same lol |
| 06:12.01 | JunkHead-Work | Got him down on the 2nd try this past saturday. |
| 06:12.10 | Nom- | But Gruul is really tough compared to the early bosses in SSC |
| 06:12.16 | Nom- | Especially compared to Void Reaver in The Eye |
| 06:12.40 | JunkHead-Work | We might try Mag next weekend. |
| 06:12.43 | Nom- | High King is incredibally forgiving compared to Gruul |
| 06:12.46 | JunkHead-Work | Just to see what that's like. |
| 06:13.15 | JunkHead-Work | Actually, we seem to have mroe problems on that 3-ogre pull before Gruul, than we do Gruul now. |
| 06:13.16 | Nom- | You need a MASSIVE amount of DPS to down Gruul, but you can stuff around a lot on High King so long as your healers are well geared |
| 06:13.44 | JunkHead-Work | One sec. |
| 06:13.50 | Nom- | Our raid leaders are going to need to get really tough on DPS this week |
| 06:13.59 | JunkHead-Work | I'll show you our classes for this last Gruul kill. |
| 06:14.09 | Nom- | Anyone who can't sustain > 600dps needs to go |
| 06:14.46 | JunkHead-Work | http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v475/JunkHead/WoWScrnShot_070707_094042.jpg |
| 06:14.50 | Nom- | Which will include me, unless this Retribution Build I try tonight isn't better |
| 06:15.04 | JunkHead-Work | 1 priest was shadow. |
| 06:15.15 | JunkHead-Work | shaman was enhancement. |
| 06:15.18 | Nom- | lol you've got a lot of pallies :P |
| 06:15.26 | Nom- | We take two paladins, 2 dshamans, like 4 priests |
| 06:15.28 | JunkHead-Work | Both Druids were feral. |
| 06:15.43 | JunkHead-Work | yeah all Paladins were holy. |
| 06:15.50 | Nom- | http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v475/JunkHead/WoWScrnShot_070707_094042.jpg |
| 06:15.53 | Nom- | oops |
| 06:15.55 | Nom- | http://standen.id.au/wow/wws-20070705-2307/ |
| 06:15.58 | JunkHead-Work | We have I think... 1 prot pally in our guild. |
| 06:16.02 | JunkHead-Work | No ret pallies. |
| 06:16.15 | Nom- | I'm so far down the DPS list it's embarrassing |
| 06:16.43 | Guillotine | our guild is so offspec |
| 06:16.55 | Guillotine | our two main tanks are me (a feral druid) and a prot pally |
| 06:17.00 | Nom- | lol we've got dedicated raiders |
| 06:17.13 | Nom- | We've got several people who respec for high king |
| 06:17.16 | Nom- | Then respec for Gruul |
| 06:17.27 | Nom- | Then resepec back to pvp fo the rest of the week |
| 06:18.01 | JunkHead-Work | For Gruul, we use a Prot Warrior as MT, and a Bear as OT. |
| 06:18.09 | Nom- | Yep, we do the same |
| 06:18.15 | JunkHead-Work | And depending on who shows up, a Bear or Prot Warrior for 3rd tank. |
| 06:18.17 | Nom- | More hitpoints, more armor |
| 06:18.36 | Nom- | Yeah, we have a second bear on tank duty too |
| 06:18.47 | Nom- | That's the 15 and 17 on those dps charts |
| 06:18.50 | Nom- | I'm 16 :( |
| 06:19.31 | JunkHead-Work | This last kill, the T4 token for Paladins,Rogues, and whatever else dropped. |
| 06:19.42 | JunkHead-Work | A rogue won them with a roll fo 29.:P |
| 06:19.48 | Nom- | Yup, we've had a couple of them drop |
| 06:19.58 | Nom- | Ah, we're doing DKP |
| 06:20.09 | Nom- | I'm next on the list for a token actually.. i think |
| 06:20.11 | JunkHead-Work | We have a weird loot system set up. |
| 06:20.19 | JunkHead-Work | I passed on the leggings token. |
| 06:20.36 | Nom- | ah no i'm not |
| 06:20.39 | Nom- | coz i missed a raid :( |
| 06:21.28 | JunkHead-Work | I'm pretty good about attendance, I sat out fo Kara last week though. |
| 06:21.45 | JunkHead-Work | They asked me not to go to let another Paladin in to gear him up some. |
| 06:22.32 | Nom- | Yah, I keep offering my slot |
| 06:22.38 | Nom- | But we don't have any Paladins to fill it :P |
| 06:23.07 | Nom- | I'd rather farm...need another 4k gold for my mount :( |
| 06:23.34 | Nom- | Actually, I might be able to get it tonight |
| 06:23.40 | Nom- | Coz another guildy offered me a loan |
| 06:23.48 | Nom- | Can farm 4k gold pretty quick, but i'm impatient |
| 06:29.48 | Corrodias | chronometer does something irritating... |
| 06:30.58 | Corrodias | when a freezing trap springs, it cancels the trap timer and starts a trap effect timer, which is sweet. but when i lay down another freezing trap, it cancels the trap effect timer. which makes it only slightly useful in timing m y traps at all. |
| 06:39.54 | Guillotine | I feel like a hippy right now. The lamp in my bathroom went out, so the sole light source in there now is a random lava lamp I found lying around |
| 06:41.55 | Tain | Careful, I just watched the Mythbusters episode where they did exploding Lava Lamps. |
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| 06:42.47 | Guillotine | ooo, I saw that one |
| 06:42.53 | Guillotine | if I remember correctly, it never exploded though |
| 06:42.59 | Guillotine | at least not under realistic temperatures |
| 06:43.04 | Guillotine | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:43.26 | Guillotine | also /hate faux scroll frames |
| 06:46.24 | Tain | Yeah, they had to heat it on a stove top to get it to explode. |
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| 06:51.48 | Guillotine | bleeeeh. nerf faux scroll frames |
| 06:52.54 | Guillotine | alright, what does this error mean? Frame CombineSignupRosterFrame: Unknown child node in Layer element: ScrollFrame |
| 06:53.02 | Guillotine | in the FrameXML log |
| 06:53.18 | Guillotine | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:53.21 | Guillotine | or at least its much harder |
| 06:53.59 | Thrae | Yes, there's nude swimming. |
| 06:54.04 | Thrae | Oh, wait... |
| 06:54.13 | Wobwork | if it weren't for lua frame generation, I'd never have done a gui for anything |
| 06:54.23 | Guillotine | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:54.35 | Guillotine | this is really the first time I'm doing anything significant with xml |
| 06:54.40 | Thrae | Guillotine: Well, that's why there are various frameworks out there designed to make GUIs. Besides, Lua dynamic frame generation is the best. WoW XML is silly and reserved for weird LoD magicks. |
| 06:55.07 | Guillotine | I'm tempted to just move it all over to lua, but there was so much already written (not by me) and I'd have to rewrite it all... |
| 06:55.28 | norgs_away | bite the bullet and do it anyhow |
| 06:55.47 | norgs_away | it's like taking a shower... you feel all clean afterwards |
| 06:55.53 | Guillotine | lol |
| 06:56.08 | Thrae | Guillotine: When you see 'ui-des' at the top of the XML...run away! Run awaaaaay! |
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| 06:56.40 | Guillotine | everything possible through XML is possible through lua dynamic frame creation, right? Want to make sure I'm not going to end up having to move it back because scroll frames can't be edited through dynamic frame creation or something -_- |
| 06:57.07 | Thrae | Guillotine: Yes. |
| 06:58.31 | Guillotine | mmm, this is going to be fun. moving 1.3k lines of xml over to lua >< |
| 06:58.53 | Thrae | If it's hard, then it's not worth doing! ...Wait, that's not right. |
| 06:59.14 | Thrae | If it's easy, then maybe you'll get lucky! ...Wait..no, no. |
| 06:59.37 | Guillotine | I like the first one |
| 06:59.47 | Guillotine | anyway... how do I make a dynamically created frame a virtual one? |
| 07:00.28 | Thrae | Guillotine: You don't -- virtual frames are literally a template to be parsed to instaniate frames. They don't really exist except in pure code form. |
| 07:01.32 | norgs_away | Guillotine: in other words, what Thrae is saying is that Virtual Frames == function |
| 07:01.46 | norgs_away | (or at least a code block) |
| 07:01.56 | Guillotine | hmm. so to duplicate the functionality of virtual frames I'd just create a function? |
| 07:01.58 | Guillotine | alright |
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| 07:02.22 | Thrae | norgs_away: Is that the real underlying functionality, or are you just making an analogy? I thought the XML was just parsed when needed. |
| 07:03.28 | norgs_away | actually, i assume that instantiation of virtual frames enact more of a deep-copy type thing |
| 07:04.05 | Thrae | Guillotine: But for Lua, a function is best, since then you only need to set stuff you actually need, and can set stuff you can't easily set / looks horrible in XML (like scripts). |
| 07:04.11 | norgs_away | technically a function is far superior since the virtual frame isn't taking up memory |
| 07:04.43 | Thrae | norgs_away: Mmm, I didn't know virtual frames take up memory aside from a pointer. That sounds like a contradiction to the word "virtual" ^^; |
| 07:05.24 | norgs_away | buggered if i know |
| 07:05.40 | norgs_away | i'm just making wild assumptions |
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| 07:09.10 | Thrae | Hmmm, was there someone with a script/application that could allow you to talk to people in-game from, say, IRC or another medium? Not account-based like XFire, it would actually push to WoW. |
| 07:10.15 | Thrae | I'm trying to think of how to do that without violating the TOS. |
| 07:10.50 | Punkie` | Are you looking for this Thrae? http://forums.wow-europe.com/thread.html?topicId=296389963&postId=2962134085&sid=1#0 |
| 07:13.16 | Thrae | Punkie`: Yeah I know the mechanics of how to do it...I've worked with DX before...but I'm not going to do anything if it's bannable ^^;; |
| 07:14.28 | Punkie` | well, if it was supposed to happen i'm sure blizzard would have put some API in to make it "easier" |
| 07:14.46 | Mike-N-Go | I have a spamable macro that uses /cast to cast my hunter's melee spells, how do I get it to not display errors? |
| 07:15.33 | Thrae | Mike-N-Go: I have an addon called "SpamIt!" which can surpress the error frame (only real way to do it). http://thrae-wow.googlecode.com/svn/trunk |
| 07:15.33 | Mike-N-Go | Or, to display the first aviable spell? |
| 07:16.23 | Mike-N-Go | Thrae: Is that all there is of it, a goggle code version? |
| 07:16.29 | Mike-N-Go | I take it is in beta/gama? |
| 07:17.10 | Thrae | Mike-N-Go: I think it might also be on wowinterface.com, but you can download it off http://, you don't -have- to use SVN. |
| 07:19.17 | Mike-N-Go | And I have '/cast Wing Clip' as the last thing, yet, when I spam my macro in melee range, it does not cast that. |
| 07:19.44 | Thrae | Mike-N-Go: That's because if casting a spell fails, for whatever reason, the macro will stop. |
| 07:20.17 | Mike-N-Go | Ahh, yah, they don't want someone to play the game with all they have to do is spam a button.. |
| 07:21.22 | Mike-N-Go | So, what would be a good way to have Wing Clip, Raptor Strike, and Mongoose Bite in the same macro as a spamable button? |
| 07:21.32 | Thrae | Mike-N-Go: You have to be inventive with your macros. /castrandom is an excellent example -- if you do /castrandom RangedSpell,MeleeSpell, then spamming it will randomly do one or the other. If one is invalid, it won't trigger GC or anything, so you can spam to your heart's content. |
| 07:22.16 | Thrae | Mike-N-Go: I have a lot of /castrandom macros, which is why I made SpamIt!, since using /castrandom can get VERY spammy |
| 07:22.28 | Mike-N-Go | Oh, you mage it, hehe. |
| 07:22.54 | Mike-N-Go | made* |
| 07:23.14 | Mike-N-Go | All it does is suppress the errors frame? |
| 07:23.57 | Thrae | Yeah, SpamIt! was for macros like /castrandom Mangle (Bear)(), Mangle (Bear)(), Mangle (Bear)(), Faerie Fire (Feral)(), Faerie Fire (Feral)(), Maul, Maul, Maul, Enrage |
| 07:23.57 | Corrodias | well |
| 07:24.17 | Corrodias | i have it cast Raptor Strike, and then it also casts Wing Clip or Mongoose Bite (if i have alt held) |
| 07:24.21 | Thrae | Mike-N-Go: Yes, what else do you need for spamming /castrandom? |
| 07:24.32 | Mike-N-Go | Ahh, so you can just spam one button to play wow? |
| 07:24.48 | Mike-N-Go | Why are some of those listed twice? |
| 07:24.59 | Corrodias | possibly to make them more likely |
| 07:25.04 | Thrae | Mike-N-Go: However, for a hunter, you shouldn't be putting your melee and ranged spells on the same macro -- by the time it takes you to go from ranged -> melee or melee -> ranged, you can easily just use a different button ^^;;; spamming isn't necessary |
| 07:25.20 | Corrodias | mongoost bite, wing clip, and raptor strike are all melee |
| 07:25.28 | Thrae | Mike-N-Go: /castrandom doesn't make everything have the same random chance. The more they are listed, the more chance they will have over the others. |
| 07:25.35 | Corrodias | yay typing mistakes |
| 07:26.11 | Corrodias | i think i have /cast Raptor Strike /cast [modifier:alt] Mongoose Bite; Wing Clip |
| 07:26.19 | Thrae | 3 Mangles, 2 FFs, 3 Mauls, 1 Enrage = 9 spells, so Mangle 3/9 of the time, Maul 3/9 of the time, FF 2/9 of the time, and Enrage 1/9 of the time. |
| 07:26.31 | Mike-N-Go | I just want to save some space, and instead of having to hold my hand and spam 3 buttons at once.. |
| 07:26.49 | [Ammo] | it's like the /castrandom Sinister Strike, Riposte |
| 07:26.58 | Corrodias | i suppose a pvp hunter has to melee more... |
| 07:27.02 | [Ammo] | thank god for error supression in one form or the other |
| 07:27.20 | Thrae | Mike-N-Go: Also note that for that Hunter attack which affects the next regular weapon swing, you can cast that with another spell using /cast Raptor Strike <new line> /stopcasting <new line> /cast Foo |
| 07:27.23 | Corrodias | my error frame only holds 3 errors. it's a minor nuisance if even that. is yours larger? |
| 07:27.36 | [Ammo] | mine is no more |
| 07:27.48 | [Ammo] | important ones are sent to chatframe |
| 07:27.51 | [Ammo] | the rest are binned |
| 07:27.52 | Thrae | Corrodias: When you spam one or two buttons, it's effectively taking up screen estate for no reason |
| 07:28.39 | Corrodias | this is true |
| 07:29.23 | [Ammo] | now I just need a solution to block the 'you can't use that trinket' sound |
| 07:29.47 | [Ammo] | <PROTECTED> |
| 07:29.49 | [Ammo] | etc |
| 07:30.04 | Thrae | [Ammo]: Druid Cat Solo'ing -- /castrandom Mangle (Cat)(), Mangle (Cat)(), Mangle (Cat)(), Mangle (Cat)(), Rake, Rake, Faerie Fire (Feral)(), Faerie Fire (Feral)(), Rip |
| 07:30.05 | Corrodias | i played my hunter in a group in which i had to do some trapping for the first time, today. i can tell i still have a lot to learn. |
| 07:30.18 | [Ammo] | why the extra () |
| 07:30.37 | Thrae | [Ammo]: Required for /castrandom and spells that have Spell (Foo) |
| 07:30.41 | [Ammo] | ah |
| 07:30.49 | Corrodias | because the macro system is "wack" |
| 07:30.56 | Mike-N-Go | Because it would interrupt the last thing included in '()' as the rank. |
| 07:31.10 | Thrae | Mike-N-Go is probably correct! |
| 07:31.22 | [Ammo] | well I only have one spam macro |
| 07:31.32 | [Ammo] | but I have my trinkets bound on my immolate and on my shadowbolt |
| 07:31.42 | [Ammo] | just the sound |
| 07:31.44 | Mike-N-Go | I read on WoWWiki the guide to making macros. |
| 07:32.14 | Mike-N-Go | Corrodias: How old is your hunter? |
| 07:32.27 | Corrodias | something over a year |
| 07:32.34 | Mike-N-Go | In levels. |
| 07:32.45 | Corrodias | 62, 61 earlier today |
| 07:33.02 | Mike-N-Go | For trapping, I use: |
| 07:33.09 | Mike-N-Go | <PROTECTED> |
| 07:33.09 | Mike-N-Go | <PROTECTED> |
| 07:33.09 | Mike-N-Go | <PROTECTED> |
| 07:33.10 | Mike-N-Go | <PROTECTED> |
| 07:33.38 | Corrodias | that doesn't even include a trap. please. besides, why would i want to put Hunter's Mark on my trap target? |
| 07:33.48 | Mike-N-Go | CCWarn is an addon that msgs everyone in the party/raid if they have your target targeted. |
| 07:34.08 | Corrodias | sounds useful |
| 07:34.11 | Mike-N-Go | Opps, how did that get in there, hehe. |
| 07:34.40 | Mike-N-Go | That is for pulling the mob into the trap |
| 07:34.41 | Corrodias | in any case, having a macro to tell people about it and shoot at the mob wouldn't make ma good trapper |
| 07:34.49 | Corrodias | *me a |
| 07:35.05 | Mike-N-Go | I have another action bar slot that casts the frezzing trap |
| 07:35.30 | Mike-N-Go | You are overlooking the point of CCWarn.. missing it entirly |
| 07:35.58 | Corrodias | i'm confused, really. i don't know how CCWarn entered the conversation and apparently am missing the point. :( |
| 07:36.01 | Thrae | Corrodias: Never trust anyone to know what's CC'd and what isn't. You must shout it at them. |
| 07:36.04 | Mike-N-Go | If they have the mob targeted that you are trying to trap, don't you think that may mean they may attack it? |
| 07:36.23 | Corrodias | oh, i think you misunderstood |
| 07:36.42 | Thrae | One of the reasons I made VitalWatch is for bad tanks too -- never trust your tank to actually look at people's health :D |
| 07:36.49 | Corrodias | i wasn't saying that people kept breaking my traps. i just am not very experienced at using the freezing trap properly in a group. |
| 07:36.53 | Mike-N-Go | Stupid daze math.. |
| 07:37.24 | Mike-N-Go | A broken freezing trap makes a hunter look bad, no mater who broke it.. |
| 07:37.59 | Corrodias | okay, but i'm saying openly that that wasn't the problem |
| 07:38.51 | Mike-N-Go | Would you care for me, a master trapest, to tell you how I ice targets? |
| 07:39.09 | Thrae | Corrodias: One good way to learn a CC class is to be more aggressive in your solo'ing -- take on situations where you know that you'll have to trap or possibly have a hard fight on your hands. |
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| 07:39.36 | Corrodias | sure, describe your method, please |
| 07:39.57 | Thrae | Corrodias: That's where I learned how to main tank & main heal at the same time ^^ |
| 07:39.59 | Mike-N-Go | Even try double trapping, that is fun =D |
| 07:40.02 | Corrodias | hm |
| 07:40.06 | Mike-N-Go | Thrae: Hehe |
| 07:40.57 | Corrodias | what i could really use is yet another different timer addon that will show me the expected remaining duration of traps on the ground and sprung trap effects at the same time |
| 07:41.10 | Corrodias | chronometer really doesn't cut it for that purpose |
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| 07:42.04 | Moovavoom | i have a question |
| 07:42.23 | Corrodias | also, i didn't realize how difficult it would be to find sufficient space for all this trapping stuff in instances while staying in range of the dps target, especially if i have to leave some space between myself and the traps to give me time to start kiting if the mob resists |
| 07:42.42 | Corrodias | it's a lot to keep track of |
| 07:43.29 | Mike-N-Go | Well, for in group situations, be away from the group and not in the LOW (line of walk), where the mob(s) would walk through. |
| 07:44.03 | Mike-N-Go | I prefer to be behind the group, and pull though the group, makes the squishes scared to see it come running at them =P |
| 07:44.41 | Mike-N-Go | Or, if there happens to be enough room to trap on the left or right, the more power to you. |
| 07:45.03 | Mike-N-Go | Moovavoom: Don't ask to ask, ask. |
| 07:45.07 | Corrodias | do you have a decent timers addon? |
| 07:45.10 | Thrae | Tried ChronoMeter or whatever it's called now? |
| 07:45.24 | Mike-N-Go | I have not used any timer addon. |
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| 07:45.45 | Corrodias | yeah, but it only shows either a trap timer OR a trap effect timer, never both at once. which means it might as well not even HAVE a trap effect timer for all the good that does. |
| 07:45.59 | Guest354 | mind if I ask a question? |
| 07:46.24 | Mike-N-Go | I haven't boththered to find one. |
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| 07:46.44 | Moovavoom2 | why does SetBlendMode work with "ADD" but not "ADHD"? |
| 07:47.03 | Corrodias | is that a joke? |
| 07:47.17 | Moovavoom2 | somewhat, yes :P |
| 07:47.33 | Moovavoom2 | actually forget the somewhat. yes it is |
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| 07:48.13 | Guillotine | netsplit ftl :( |
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| 07:49.21 | Guillotine | I wonder how hard it would be to make a script that converts WoW XML into dynamic frame lua |
| 07:49.41 | Guillotine | would be interesting at the least |
| 07:49.44 | Guillotine | though probably sloppy |
| 07:50.09 | Mike-N-Go | So, you make sure that a mob won't be in the path to your trap, to avoid the wrong mob going in the trap |
| 07:50.28 | Mike-N-Go | You lay the ice trap before battle starts |
| 07:50.30 | Thrae | Guillotine: Why don't we make a script that converts Khaos functions into their Ace2 equivilents :D |
| 07:51.02 | Guillotine | Thrae: that would be even easier :P |
| 07:51.06 | Guillotine | though I can't see the point |
| 07:51.20 | Guillotine | other than maybe making Khaos addons compatible with DeuceCommander and hte like |
| 07:51.30 | Mike-N-Go | Battle starts, you pull with just enough force to get it into the trap, you stand with the trap a few feet in-front of you. I have foound arcane shot rank 1 does the trick, mostly. |
| 07:51.44 | Guillotine | though AL made the reverse work (well, compatible). Check out KhaosAce |
| 07:51.44 | Thrae | Guillotine: Same for the XML parsing. The design of the XML is probably such that it would need to be re-written, and the Lua dynamic code geneerated would just be crap ;) |
| 07:52.08 | Thelyna | Mike-N-Go: arcane shot rank one won't be enough aggro if you're going to be re-trapping it |
| 07:52.11 | Corrodias | just a little love tap? |
| 07:52.29 | Thelyna | just use distracting shot, feign if the mob loves you too much |
| 07:52.35 | Guillotine | bad analogy. Wouldn't be all that hard to convert Khaos functions to Ace2 equivalents :P But it was more of a 'could we do it' idea rather than a 'would it be practicle' idea :P |
| 07:52.43 | Mike-N-Go | And when it is trapped, back up a few feet, lay the second freezing trap. |
| 07:52.53 | Mike-N-Go | Since you probly don't have extended trap timers, unlike me with traps that last 26 seconds, this laying traps in advanced helps. |
| 07:53.34 | Corrodias | i was leaving a little space between them to make the mob travel a little ways, increasing the time between them and hence the number of times i can chain it before he's loose. i also want to hit them with Concussive Shot just as the previous trap is ending to extend that time a little, hence why i wanted a good timer addon |
| 07:53.43 | Mike-N-Go | Thelyna: Enough to get it in a trap, I use arcane shot rank one, it works well at the start of a pull. If it requires more force, I use a max rank distracting shot |
| 07:53.52 | Corrodias | but i think that was reducing my DPS too much |
| 07:53.58 | Corrodias | not worth the tradeoff |
| 07:54.00 | Thelyna | right, and that works for a single trap |
| 07:54.25 | Thelyna | but if you're going to be trapping it more than once you either need the healer standing on top of you, or a bigger hit |
| 07:54.27 | Mike-N-Go | The idea is to get it in the trap, but not that it will pound on you so hard that it won't go after the tank easily. |
| 07:54.51 | Corrodias | a single distracting shot shouldn't be too hard for a tank to overcome when the time arrives |
| 07:54.55 | Thelyna | tanks have taunt |
| 07:55.12 | Corrodias | taunts can be resisted, but then a hunter has FD |
| 07:55.12 | Thelyna | actually if your tank is in the habit of taunting off you you want as much threat as possible |
| 07:55.18 | Thelyna | since that gives him a bigger lead |
| 07:55.22 | Mike-N-Go | If the rank 1 does not do the trick, do a full rank whatever, distracting, arcnae, auto, anything but viper or serpents sting. |
| 07:56.38 | Nom- | err |
| 07:56.46 | Mike-N-Go | I am explaining how I go about traping, why must thee be critiqued to much! |
| 07:56.48 | Nom- | Taunt doesn't increase threat unless it's a feral druid |
| 07:57.37 | Corrodias | what, they don't work the same way? |
| 07:58.05 | Mike-N-Go | Take a look at BigRedKitty, http://www.wowinsider.com/2007/06/13/bigredkitty-basic-hunter-macros/ |
| 07:58.05 | Nom- | From what I understand, taunt is effectively a 'hit me for 5 seconds' debuff |
| 07:58.08 | Corrodias | Taunt would be 90% useless if it didn't increase the warrior's threat to match that of the person highest on the list |
| 07:58.15 | Nom- | Whereas growl (druid) is a +threat |
| 07:58.28 | Corrodias | growl also forces the mob on your for something like 3 seconds |
| 07:58.41 | Nom- | Yes, but it does boost threat too from what I understand |
| 07:59.10 | Corrodias | yes, it increases your threat to match that of the person highest on the mob's list and forces it to attack you for about 3 seconds as i recall |
| 07:59.26 | Guillotine | moovavoom o.O interesting name. kind of reminds me of the ents in LOTR but combined with a cow |
| 07:59.27 | Corrodias | i was under the impression that Taunt works the same way. if it didn't, it would be impossible to hold the mob after the debuff expired. |
| 07:59.46 | Mike-N-Go | Or, even http://bigredkitty.blogspot.com/2007/05/freezing-trap-in-instances-is-schiznit.html |
| 08:00.07 | Nom- | Maybe i'm wrong, but I was always under the impression that you can't just jump to the top of the aggro list after a death using taunt |
| 08:00.08 | Mike-N-Go | I have dried blood in my trash can, need to empty, AFK |
| 08:00.19 | Guillotine | when you overwrite a variable, does the previous value have to be GCd? |
| 08:00.20 | Nom- | I mean, bosses..sure..not tauntable...but that seems wrong to me |
| 08:00.25 | Guillotine | trying to make this as efficient as possible >< |
| 08:01.03 | Guillotine | Ya, taunt works the same way for all 3 classes that have it |
| 08:01.08 | Guillotine | though not pets |
| 08:01.37 | Nom- | Hmm, fair enough... I could be lead to believe that |
| 08:01.37 | Mystiq | whats this about Taunt? |
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| 08:02.36 | Mystiq | conversation too long! cant backtrack! |
| 08:02.45 | Nom- | So assuming a tauntable mob, you don't need to keep your threat up high at all? :/ |
| 08:03.02 | Nom- | That's actually why I thought it seemed wrong |
| 08:03.13 | Mystiq | whats the argument/question here? |
| 08:03.15 | Corrodias | well... |
| 08:03.22 | Nom- | Otherwise you could (theoretically) have some new tank fly into the middle of a fight with a big boss at 5% and get as much aggro as the MT ? |
| 08:03.33 | Corrodias | unless you don't mind it killing people in the 3-second gap between the wearing-off of Taunt and the cooldown expiring |
| 08:03.46 | Corrodias | you should probably hit it a few times. |
| 08:03.53 | Nom- | Ah, so it only lasts as long as the buff |
| 08:03.57 | Nom- | that makes more sense |
| 08:03.57 | Corrodias | big bosses are immune to taunting |
| 08:04.00 | Mystiq | taunt for a warrior at least lasts 5 seconds, the cooldown is 10 seconds, thats a large amount of people that could de |
| 08:04.04 | Nom- | Corrodias: Not all |
| 08:04.06 | Guillotine | Nom- yes, you could if the boss was vulnerable to taunt |
| 08:04.08 | Nom- | Corrodias: Doomwalker for instance |
| 08:04.15 | Mystiq | die* |
| 08:04.35 | Corrodias | then yes, a new tank could come out of nowhere and, as far as i understand taunting to work from reading about it and using it many times myself, match the MT in threat. |
| 08:04.44 | Mystiq | bosses that arent immune to taunt usually require multiple tanks, so having them die is bad anyway |
| 08:04.58 | Mystiq | someone please fill me in on the conversation lol, i tihnk i have something that'll help you guys |
| 08:05.04 | Nom- | Yeah, but that match of aggro would only last 5 seconds, then they'd go back to however much aggro they have from what I can tell |
| 08:05.13 | Guillotine | no, it stays at that |
| 08:05.19 | Guillotine | and they have to continue trying to stay on top |
| 08:05.21 | Corrodias | boom, lots of threat. no strings attached. |
| 08:05.23 | Guillotine | or someone can outdo them |
| 08:05.25 | Nom- | No it won't...it can't |
| 08:05.41 | Corrodias | other people are still adding threat and you WILL lose it soon if you don't add some on top of what you just got |
| 08:05.43 | Nom- | You can't rez a druid in a big boss fight, have them taunt a boss like doomwalker and expect them to hold aggro...i'm sure of that |
| 08:05.51 | Corrodias | why are you sure of that? |
| 08:05.57 | Guillotine | sure you can |
| 08:06.14 | Nom- | Having said that, the rezzed druid would die immediately due to the debuff, so meh |
| 08:06.16 | Corrodias | there are very limited battle rezzes to go around |
| 08:06.30 | Corrodias | unless your raid consists mostly of druids... >_> |
| 08:06.31 | Mystiq | one last time >< someone please fill me in whats being discussed |
| 08:06.36 | Guillotine | taunts used to have a max amount of threat added, but I believe that changed back in beta (iirc) |
| 08:06.38 | Corrodias | Mystiq: Taunt mechanics |
| 08:06.39 | Nom- | Mystiq: Taunt mechanics |
| 08:06.41 | Thrae | Hmmm, does anyone know anything about HTTP? I'm trying to figure out exactly what commands is sent to tinyurl.com to get back a response. Maybe the Firefox Console can tell me... |
| 08:06.41 | Mystiq | ok |
| 08:06.45 | Nom- | JINX |
| 08:06.50 | Mystiq | you guys know how threat and aggro work? |
| 08:06.50 | [Ammo] | well most bosses are not tauntable |
| 08:07.10 | Nom- | Thrae: Umm...depends... what are you trying to build a client in? |
| 08:07.43 | Corrodias | we're reasonably aware. mob continues to attack its current target unless someone within range exceeds the threat of the aggro holder by 10% or someone out of range exceeds it by 30% |
| 08:07.50 | Mystiq | yeah |
| 08:08.13 | Nom- | It was a question of how taunt works |
| 08:08.34 | Mystiq | taunt gives you exactly the same threat as the current target, nothing if you have aggro, dont know that business about druids |
| 08:08.38 | Thrae | Nom-: Lua, of course! |
| 08:08.39 | [Ammo] | taunt gives aggro to the taunter equal to current target of the mob |
| 08:08.51 | [Ammo] | s/aggro/threat/ |
| 08:08.53 | Nom- | And the question of whether a brand new tank could actually run into a fight, taunt, and all of a sudden have their aggro brought up to the level of the MT |
| 08:09.01 | Mystiq | if its tauntable, yes |
| 08:09.09 | Mystiq | there is one instance i remember where that did not work, however |
| 08:09.13 | Codayus | Nom-: Of course...you can see that in lots of fights. |
| 08:09.16 | [Ammo] | but like I said, most mobs are not tauntable |
| 08:09.17 | Nom- | Thrae: Find a decent HTTP library then... |
| 08:09.20 | [Ammo] | most bosses that is |
| 08:09.27 | Nom- | Thrae: Doing it manually is a PITA |
| 08:09.38 | Codayus | Ragnaros is a classic example of where you can see that in action. |
| 08:09.47 | Thrae | Nom-: Lua already has a HTTP library through Lua sockets. I just need to know what header I'm suppose to be sending. |
| 08:09.52 | Corrodias | i never fought Rag |
| 08:09.53 | Mystiq | actually no, i have been lied to by a warrior i knew 2 years ago |
| 08:10.01 | Mystiq | yes, technically you can just taunt if anything was tauntable and be the new MT |
| 08:10.05 | Nom- | Thrae: Depends on the form you're trying to drive |
| 08:10.09 | Mystiq | i used to have taunt wars in molten core |
| 08:10.18 | Thrae | Nom-: TinyUrl only has one form, make a url tiny ^^; |
| 08:10.33 | Nom- | Looks like POST |
| 08:10.38 | Thrae | Right |
| 08:10.40 | Mystiq | technically any boss in molten core that would work on |
| 08:10.49 | Mystiq | and any boss except nefarian in BWL |
| 08:11.02 | Nom- | With arguments url=<url>;submit=Make%20TinyURL |
| 08:11.34 | Mystiq | during ragnaros fight, ranged cant pul laggro, so it was really easy to get in there and taunt as tanks died |
| 08:11.53 | Nom- | Mystiq: Well, actually, they can :P |
| 08:12.04 | Nom- | Mystiq: But Rag ignores ranged as long as there's a valid melee target |
| 08:12.07 | Mystiq | if there's no one in melee range its a wipe anyway |
| 08:12.31 | Mystiq | they copied the mechnically pretty much exactly for Al'ar |
| 08:12.32 | Corrodias | i think the valid melee target was implied in "pulling aggro off of somebody" |
| 08:12.34 | Mystiq | mechanic* |
| 08:12.46 | Thrae | Nom-: http://www.pastey.net/70516 |
| 08:13.11 | Corrodias | no matter. timer addons, that's what i was looking for. but meh. chronometer will do if i don't try any stupid Concussive Shot tricks. |
| 08:13.26 | Mystiq | i have seen instances lately where if a tank dies, you sometimes have another warrior 2nd on threat on some fights and just get some hunters to misdirect |
| 08:13.29 | Nom- | Thrae: What an ugly, ugly library :/ |
| 08:13.44 | Corrodias | wowace has a lot of interesting-sounding addons, but it'd be nice to know what some of them were like without having to install them. like having them published on wowi. :P |
| 08:14.44 | Codayus | Hmm, the Void Reaver fight would be weird if he was tauntable... |
| 08:14.53 | Mystiq | would be trivial |
| 08:14.55 | Nom- | You shouldn't need to specify Content-Type yourself |
| 08:15.01 | Corrodias | your mom would be weird if she were tauntable |
| 08:15.01 | Nom- | If you need to, then it's a TERRIBLE library |
| 08:15.10 | Mystiq | clearly you've never fought Broodlord :) |
| 08:15.31 | Codayus | I've fought Broodlord quite a bit. :-) |
| 08:15.46 | Thelyna | void reaver is broodlord with more damage |
| 08:15.49 | Mystiq | well then we're all happy again =) |
| 08:15.50 | Thrae | Nom-: Fixed tabs |
| 08:15.53 | Thelyna | and arcane orbs |
| 08:15.58 | Corrodias | BRK brings up an interesting idea in one of those articles, setting a Main Assist as the focus and having a macro to make the pet attack his target |
| 08:15.59 | Codayus | Sorry, just a random thought brought about by thinking how the Ragnaros fight would have been different if he wasn't tauntable. |
| 08:16.04 | Mystiq | i like to call them balls in your face |
| 08:16.11 | Nom- | Thrae: It's still a terrible library :P |
| 08:16.21 | Guillotine | anybody know the dynamic frame equivalent to <ButtonText>? |
| 08:16.29 | Nom- | Thrae: Find something which abstracts that out into a proper OO methodology |
| 08:16.51 | Mystiq | i wish magtheridon was tauntable |
| 08:16.57 | Mystiq | every time that fucker breaks free and kills a healer its GG |
| 08:17.27 | Nom- | Thrae: http://www.intellipool.se/forum/index.php?showtopic=483 <-- that looks al ittle more sane...not ideal, but better |
| 08:17.37 | Corrodias | so what are the good damage meter and other info meter addons out there? i recall hearing recap, swstats, damagemeters, and violation. what else? |
| 08:17.48 | Mystiq | damagemeters is horrible |
| 08:17.48 | Thrae | Nom-: I searched for a long, long time and there's really nothing besides vanilla Lua Sockets |
| 08:17.58 | Codayus | Recount in game, WWS outside. |
| 08:18.07 | Thrae | Nom-: Bah, you and your foreign language sites |
| 08:18.09 | Corrodias | i'm not a fan -- i run sw_stats currently |
| 08:18.12 | Mystiq | ive grown very fond of SWStats |
| 08:18.20 | Nom- | Looks like english to me... |
| 08:18.24 | Nom- | The post at least... |
| 08:18.27 | Corrodias | it's so accurate with an increased log range and no synchronization |
| 08:18.55 | [Ammo] | is sws patched to count the DoT component from fireball yet? |
| 08:18.56 | Codayus | I used to use SWStats, but Recount does everything I used to use SWStats for...and for serious analysis nothing substitutes for WWS. |
| 08:18.58 | Nom- | http://www.intellipool.se/idedoc/index.html?179.htm <-- try getting that library...much better abstraction of all the hard work |
| 08:19.14 | Corrodias | what is this WWS? |
| 08:19.19 | [Ammo] | wowwebstats |
| 08:19.19 | Codayus | Wow Web Stats |
| 08:19.22 | [Ammo] | www.lossendil.fr |
| 08:19.48 | Corrodias | thanks, i'll examine that soon |
| 08:20.14 | Codayus | Corrodias: Here's an example report from a Kara raid |
| 08:20.16 | Codayus | http://www.lossendil.com/wws/?report=vablodujxjluo |
| 08:20.20 | Nom- | WoW Web Stats is nice... I'd like a version which breaks down stats by boss attempt tho :( |
| 08:20.35 | Codayus | Nom-: Check that link, and click the "full report" link. |
| 08:20.49 | Corrodias | oh, here's a good example of what i dislike about addons posted only on files.wowace.com: "Combine r31990 2007-07-08 05:03:31 A true guild and raid management system. (Kaelten)" |
| 08:21.10 | Corrodias | a raid management system. great. what does that mean? only god and the author know that. |
| 08:21.12 | Guillotine | Corrodias: there *were* screenshots before the wiki got wiped clean |
| 08:21.14 | Kaelten | Sorry you feel that way |
| 08:21.14 | Nom- | hmmmmm |
| 08:21.33 | Codayus | That's broken down by bosses, and you can do various drilldown analysis - stuff like "what did priest X do on the Nightbane kill?" |
| 08:21.38 | Guillotine | And thats actually what I'm converting completely over to dynamic frame creation right now >< |
| 08:21.41 | Mystiq | WWS just reports on the internet what sws and recap report in-game? |
| 08:21.42 | Codayus | http://www.lossendil.com/wws/?report=vablodujxjluo&a=2&s=5640-6186 |
| 08:21.44 | Nom- | I didn't find any way to generate that report |
| 08:21.52 | Corrodias | i'm not saying there's anything wrong with the addon. i'm just disappointed that the only way to know what it's like is to install it (unless i can find it on another site) |
| 08:21.53 | Nom- | In the client... hmm ... loading up remote desktop |
| 08:21.58 | Thrae | Kaelten: Ooo, it'd be cool if WAU or files.wowace.com could show screenshots. |
| 08:22.06 | [Ammo] | WWS has way more detail than SWS |
| 08:22.14 | Kaelten | Thrae: you need to hold your suggestions until I'm sane again |
| 08:22.16 | Kaelten | :P |
| 08:22.21 | Thrae | Kaelten: Haha |
| 08:22.55 | Codayus | Mystiq: More or less. The analysis tends to be a lot more detailed. It's very nice for looking in detail at what went right or wrong. Lesse...Warrior X...spammed HS too much. Hmm, bat DoT uptime on Warlock Y... Wait, Mage Z cost a FROSTBOLT? Isn't he FIRE spec? |
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| 08:23.37 | Mystiq | sws can tell you that too |
| 08:23.40 | Thrae | Nom-: I don't see how that library would help -- all it's doing is just abstracting, not really doing any work. I already now how to do everything the library is abstracting, I just need to know what header to send. Hmm, lemme try no header... |
| 08:23.54 | Mystiq | hel li often use sws to tell people's specs |
| 08:24.06 | Codayus | And you can drill all the way down to the log, and filter it in various ways. |
| 08:24.16 | Codayus | Example: Was the MT on the Nightbane kill ever crushed? |
| 08:24.18 | Codayus | http://www.lossendil.com/wws/?report=vablodujxjluo&s=5640-6186&bl=0&fia=4&fiaa=i&fih=6 |
| 08:24.35 | Nom- | hmm still can't seem to produce the same report :( |
| 08:24.42 | Nom- | Maybe it's only available on the web site ? |
| 08:24.47 | Codayus | Yes |
| 08:24.48 | Corrodias | cool... |
| 08:24.53 | Codayus | Most of the cool features are hosted only. |
| 08:24.54 | Codayus | :-( |
| 08:25.39 | Nom- | argh :( |
| 08:25.41 | Nom- | how crapp y:( |
| 08:25.50 | Corrodias | paid accounts |
| 08:25.57 | Corrodias | we're too casual for that |
| 08:26.19 | Codayus | You don't have to pay. <shrug> |
| 08:26.32 | Corrodias | but the only option listed under their .. hang on |
| 08:26.34 | Codayus | It's just a bit slower and the reports go away in um...2 weeks I think? |
| 08:26.36 | Corrodias | http://www.lossendil.com/wws/doc-index.jsp |
| 08:26.46 | Corrodias | Hosting reports: The WWS client generates some nice statistics, but you can get even more by hosting your reports on the WWS server (log splitting, death replay, log browsing, etc...). |
| 08:26.54 | Codayus | http://www.lossendil.com/wws/doc-accounts.jsp |
| 08:26.59 | Corrodias | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:27.08 | Codayus | Free - ad supported, loading is slow, reports go away in 15 days |
| 08:27.36 | Codayus | Guild account is fast, ad free, and reports stay for 30 days. |
| 08:27.45 | Codayus | But $5/month. <shrug> |
| 08:27.56 | Corrodias | interesting |
| 08:28.11 | Corrodias | there seems to be a lack of instructions on how to actually start using the service, though |
| 08:28.18 | Nom- | only 30 days? :/ |
| 08:28.27 | Corrodias | "start WWS client" offers to let me download a .jnlp file |
| 08:28.42 | Codayus | Unlimited accounts ($9/month) last forever. :-) |
| 08:28.46 | Corrodias | i've never heard of jnlp, myself |
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| 08:29.02 | Codayus | Corrodias: Right, that's the client which parses the logs and uploads. It's up...Java Web Start Something or Other? |
| 08:29.32 | Corrodias | i am not familiar with this technology |
| 08:29.37 | Corrodias | FIRE BAD |
| 08:29.43 | Codayus | JNLP - Java Network Launching Protocol. |
| 08:29.56 | Codayus | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Java_Web_Start |
| 08:30.06 | Corrodias | "CrowBar r43189 2007-07-08 14:24:08 Open those things for LEWT! (Ammo)" -- there's a great description |
| 08:30.21 | Codayus | I like it. |
| 08:30.23 | Codayus | :-) |
| 08:30.47 | [Ammo] | hey |
| 08:30.54 | Nom- | ok now that's MUCH better |
| 08:30.58 | Nom- | http://www.lossendil.com/wws/?report=qa5pzhlnkn4g1 |
| 08:31.01 | [Ammo] | crowbar works best with locksmith :p |
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| 08:31.10 | [Ammo] | crowbar opens anything that can be opened |
| 08:31.14 | Nom- | That's precisely what we want |
| 08:31.15 | [Ammo] | locksmith unlocks anything that can be unlocked |
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| 08:31.45 | Codayus | Yeah, breaking out the attempts from the trash makes it *so* much more useful, no? :-) |
| 08:31.58 | Nom- | hell yes |
| 08:32.05 | Nom- | Tht's what I've been trying to do for weeks |
| 08:32.14 | Nom- | I didn't even realise it was a web-only feature |
| 08:32.36 | Corrodias | so crowbar automatically opens containers as they come into your inventory? |
| 08:32.57 | [Ammo] | no you can't do that |
| 08:33.02 | [Ammo] | but it pops up a red box button |
| 08:33.09 | [Ammo] | that you can click and loot till it goes away again |
| 08:33.26 | Corrodias | this is what bugs me about the limited descriptions. the only way for me to know what the 20 cool-sounding addons do is to install them. i weep. |
| 08:33.39 | [Ammo] | Corrodias: visit forums |
| 08:33.41 | [Ammo] | search for crowbar |
| 08:33.44 | Corrodias | *hiss* |
| 08:33.46 | [Ammo] | I took the time to make a post about it |
| 08:33.54 | Codayus | Let's see.... |
| 08:33.54 | Corrodias | yeah, that could work |
| 08:33.58 | Codayus | http://www.google.com/search?q=wowace%20crowbar |
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| 08:34.03 | Corrodias | wowace.com forum? |
| 08:34.04 | Codayus | Second link... "CrowBar - Official Thread" |
| 08:34.12 | Codayus | :-) |
| 08:34.17 | [Ammo] | http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=5961.msg98902#msg98902 |
| 08:34.19 | Codayus | Google > * |
| 08:34.44 | Corrodias | excellent |
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| 08:35.47 | Nom- | ugh the scary thing is |
| 08:35.56 | Nom- | On that report, Thanida was supposed to be DPS |
| 08:36.03 | Nom- | Didn't even crack 7,000 damage on the first try |
| 08:36.37 | Corrodias | shameful |
| 08:36.49 | Corrodias | oh, 14% presence, does that mean he/she bit it early? |
| 08:37.22 | [Ammo] | but corrodias feel free to try crowbar :) |
| 08:37.22 | Nom- | He disconnected |
| 08:37.22 | Nom- | On every single attempt |
| 08:37.22 | [Ammo] | 7 minutes of drycoding that worked :p |
| 08:37.23 | Nom- | :( |
| 08:37.23 | Corrodias | thanks; it doesn't sound like something i would find useful, but knowing what it does makes me feel a lot better |
| 08:37.44 | [Ammo] | it helps with the clams |
| 08:37.49 | [Ammo] | or when you're a rogue |
| 08:37.53 | [Ammo] | with the pickpocket macro |
| 08:38.01 | [Ammo] | but then I suggest downloading http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=5452.0 as well |
| 08:38.18 | Guillotine | anybody know the dynamic frame equivalent of <ButtonText>? please? PLEASE? :( |
| 08:38.34 | Guillotine | I'm really hoping it actually exists. since it isn't documented on wowwiki >< |
| 08:39.00 | Guillotine | and that kind of makes all this conversion I've done useless >< |
| 08:39.03 | [Ammo] | sometextstring:SetText("test") |
| 08:39.39 | Guillotine | Ammo: ButtonText move the string |
| 08:39.46 | Guillotine | is to* |
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| 08:40.08 | Guillotine | hmm. is there actually a string object as a child of every button? |
| 08:40.21 | [Ammo] | local testbutton = CreateFrame("Button", nil, frame, "UIPanelButtonTemplate") |
| 08:40.28 | [Ammo] | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:40.30 | [Ammo] | works |
| 08:41.03 | [Ammo] | but there is probably some kind of text child |
| 08:41.05 | Guillotine | ya, but you can't move that string |
| 08:41.10 | Guillotine | ah, there is. but its unnamed |
| 08:41.33 | [Ammo] | or you could manually construct the button |
| 08:41.40 | [Ammo] | instead of using the template |
| 08:41.43 | [Ammo] | but that's a lot more work |
| 08:41.50 | Guillotine | though it appears to be the only string child. So I can just iterate through children and move any string I find |
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| 08:51.40 | Guillotine | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=174600888&postId=1744156182&sid=1#0 <-- Bump please |
| 08:52.42 | Corrodias | but you just posted it |
| 08:52.52 | Guillotine | bump post count* |
| 08:52.54 | Guillotine | :P |
| 08:53.03 | Guillotine | or wait and bump it once it gets down |
| 08:53.09 | Guillotine | but I know I'll forget about it tommorrow :P |
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| 09:01.20 | Corrodias | wobin, are you having an Issue? |
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| 09:02.25 | Wobin | Nah |
| 09:02.29 | Wobin | I finally got my new 22" |
| 09:02.39 | Thunder_Child | gratz |
| 09:02.42 | Wobin | and I've been trying to fix it so it's the main screen with my second monitor on the left |
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| 09:02.50 | Wobin | Which I finally figured out =) |
| 09:02.55 | Wobin | It's SO BRIGHT! |
| 09:04.09 | Wobin | i can't wait til I get my wow ui setup =P |
| 09:05.04 | zenzelezz | I have an issue with Wobin having a 22" monitor |
| 09:06.03 | Corrodias | don't worry, i'll resolve the issue by buying an $800 monitor, soon |
| 09:06.13 | zenzelezz | for me I hope! |
| 09:06.29 | Wobin | hehe |
| 09:06.35 | Wobin | I only spent $350 AUD! |
| 09:06.47 | Wobin | 800+ is a bit much for me |
| 09:12.14 | Corrodias | tomorrow, after we watch movies at a friend's house, i have to give recap and recount a try. |
| 09:13.53 | Corrodias | for now, sleepy time. 'ni |
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| 09:23.42 | AnduinLothar | :) <3 AV weekend |
| 09:23.46 | AnduinLothar | 8k honor today |
| 09:23.56 | zenzelezz | nice |
| 09:24.44 | Guillotine | gn all! |
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| 09:41.52 | Yinxie | Hey guys i got small question |
| 09:42.03 | Yinxie | i got this french addon :S (dont ask me why its french) |
| 09:42.31 | Yinxie | but what spell would asservissement be in english? |
| 09:42.51 | Yinxie | 'asservissement' |
| 09:43.29 | Thelyna | so our main dkp modder/exporter/all-around guru left last week ... name me a good raid-tracker mod? |
| 09:43.42 | Thelyna | Yinxie: assessment? |
| 09:44.01 | Yinxie | i should have mentioned it was a warlock spell btw :P |
| 09:44.17 | Thelyna | aggravation .. searing pain? |
| 09:44.32 | Thelyna | can you give any more detail? |
| 09:44.38 | Yinxie | well its catagorised in the buff section |
| 09:44.51 | Thelyna | oh wait |
| 09:44.53 | Yinxie | where armor / fel armor / unending breath / etc |
| 09:44.55 | Thelyna | I fail at reading google |
| 09:45.00 | Thelyna | should be enslave |
| 09:45.05 | Yinxie | its between shadow ward and banish |
| 09:45.06 | Thelyna | enslave demon? |
| 09:45.14 | Yinxie | nope enslave is in the demon section |
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| 09:45.33 | Yinxie | and its not fear either |
| 09:45.57 | Thelyna | http://dictionary.reverso.net/french-english/asservissement tells me it's close to slavery |
| 09:46.06 | Yinxie | its translates into control or subvervience |
| 09:46.07 | Thelyna | and enslave demon is the only thing I can think of in that line |
| 09:46.12 | Yinxie | hm |
| 09:46.21 | Yinxie | well im sure its not that though.. |
| 09:46.38 | Yinxie | nobody french around here? |
| 09:47.36 | zenzelezz | screenshot? |
| 09:48.06 | Yinxie | its lua coding ;) |
| 09:48.17 | Yinxie | ill pastey it for ya if you want ^^ |
| 09:48.27 | zenzelezz | wouldn't help me :-p |
| 09:49.13 | Yinxie | im just trying to translate this french addon |
| 09:50.35 | zenzelezz | well I'm neither French nor a warlock, so text alone doesn't help )D |
| 09:50.41 | Yinxie | ^^ |
| 09:50.44 | zenzelezz | stick around though, someone might know |
| 09:50.58 | Yinxie | rgr willdo |
| 09:52.10 | Yinxie | ill just wait with translating this one then |
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| 10:09.27 | zenzelezz | you know, I'm aware that these skyguards/ogres say the same to every revered+ person, but I still like how they show you recognition |
| 10:09.53 | Yinxie | lol |
| 10:10.00 | Yinxie | what do ya mean? |
| 10:10.13 | Yinxie | how they show that they recognise u? |
| 10:10.24 | zenzelezz | Kronk says: We heard that Zenzio single-handedly took out a forge camp! |
| 10:10.40 | zenzelezz | Skyguard Windcharger says: I hear you fly without a parachute cloak, Zenzio. |
| 10:10.47 | Yinxie | hm i think it works like area buffs |
| 10:10.53 | Yinxie | detect if you are inrage |
| 10:10.56 | Yinxie | inrange |
| 10:10.59 | zenzelezz | I know |
| 10:11.01 | Yinxie | and then prompt a message |
| 10:11.10 | zenzelezz | my point wasn't how it works |
| 10:11.20 | Yinxie | ow lol |
| 10:11.23 | Yinxie | didnt get ur point then :P |
| 10:11.56 | zenzelezz | I just think it's cool that the NPCs act like your reputation actually meant something more than which items you can buy :-p |
| 10:12.21 | Yinxie | ye ok |
| 10:12.27 | Yinxie | good point ;) |
| 10:12.28 | zenzelezz | not like those grumpy old guards, "so you're exalted with us, see if I care" |
| 10:12.34 | Yinxie | haha no |
| 10:12.48 | Yinxie | btw i like it that their pots are not unique |
| 10:13.01 | Yinxie | i just grind some shards and boom another 30 pots |
| 10:13.40 | Codayus | I never understood why some pots are unique... |
| 10:13.57 | Yinxie | well its to prevent the alchemists being out of work maybe |
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| 11:36.43 | N00bZXI | Question: How would I get the frame created from a chat hyperlink (I'm trying to show the text that ItemRefTooltip would show if you clicked on it when you mouse over it) |
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| 11:40.48 | cladhaire | Not sure what you mean |
| 11:41.08 | cladhaire | You would set OnHyperlinkEnter (I believe) |
| 11:41.18 | cladhaire | and then extract the item from the link you get passed |
| 11:41.32 | cladhaire | You can just use the GameTooltip to show that |
| 11:50.36 | Yinxie | Heya Clad :) |
| 11:51.58 | Yinxie | clad can i ask a question? |
| 11:52.29 | zenzelezz | you just did |
| 11:52.33 | haste | you just did! |
| 11:52.34 | haste | D: |
| 11:53.09 | Yinxie | ive got this addon, that generated an ingame panel, and i want to add another tab to it, so i need to change the number on the 4th line in my paste (FYI there are already 6 panels. im about to make a 7th) |
| 11:53.16 | Yinxie | http://wowi.pastey.net/70525 |
| 11:53.48 | Yinxie | so actually the question is, do i need to change that number (says 6 atm) |
| 11:54.27 | nevcairiel | well yes, you would have to, but i can promise you thats not all you need to change .P |
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| 11:55.19 | Yinxie | well ive edited the toc, functions-en.lua, panel.lua and dialog-en.lua and the addon then just dissapears |
| 11:56.13 | Yinxie | and i just dont know what to change else |
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| 11:58.31 | Yinxie | anyone got an idea> |
| 11:59.10 | Yinxie | and i created the option-info.lua so that it can open it.. |
| 11:59.13 | Yinxie | but nothing works |
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| 12:08.24 | JoshBorke | check FrameXML.log |
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| 12:09.44 | YammYgirlcoding | morning all |
| 12:09.50 | YammYgirlcoding | is cide around? :) |
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| 12:10.10 | zenzelezz | apparently not at the moment |
| 12:10.34 | YammYgirlcoding | I'm wondering if has been ctmod left behind with that unitframes bug for ever O.o |
| 12:11.29 | YammYgirlcoding | last updated was in may. So... Was that abandoned? |
| 12:12.38 | Yinxie | nope |
| 12:12.42 | Yinxie | they just dont have a fix yet |
| 12:12.52 | Yinxie | not that i know at least. but correct me if im wrong |
| 12:13.44 | Kaso | If it was a non ct_mod 2 version i think cide is leaving a few of them behind as he works on complete 2 re-writes |
| 12:16.19 | Yinxie | ah ok |
| 12:16.30 | Yinxie | anyway im afk.. chopping some lumber |
| 12:16.38 | Kaso | but im no expert, cide'll be around in a few hours, ask him then |
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| 12:17.00 | YammYgirlcoding | oh |
| 12:17.40 | YammYgirlcoding | its ctmod2. but it was left bugged for 2 months :( |
| 12:18.20 | Kaso | ct unitframes? |
| 12:18.25 | Kaso | says its been updated 2 weeks ago |
| 12:18.26 | YammYgirlcoding | that'd be a great lost if were left out. I hope someone is fixing it :) |
| 12:18.37 | YammYgirlcoding | but werent, files are from may |
| 12:18.43 | YammYgirlcoding | last files > may |
| 12:18.54 | Kaso | are you checking on wowi? |
| 12:19.09 | Kaso | or this on ctmod.net ? |
| 12:19.11 | YammYgirlcoding | i got them on ctmod.net isnt it the updated place? |
| 12:19.23 | Kaso | tis |
| 12:19.32 | Kaso | you'll have to shout a cide a bit when he gets online |
| 12:19.43 | YammYgirlcoding | hehe okey. I can do that :) |
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| 12:20.05 | YammYgirlcoding | maybe it's just a zip confusion, nobody has told him :) |
| 12:20.21 | YammYgirlcoding | Cide ping |
| 12:20.34 | Cide | pong |
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| 12:20.55 | YammYgirlcoding | we were just talking about you :) |
| 12:22.09 | YammYgirlcoding | Cide honey, know the ctunit frames zip? It says it was updated 2 weeks ago, but the last files are from may. Did you mess up with the zip files? |
| 12:23.37 | YammYgirlcoding | ( at ctmod.net ) |
| 12:24.00 | YammYgirlcoding | ( good morning ) |
| 12:25.09 | haste | omg lisp! |
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| 12:27.03 | haste | YammYgirlcoding: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lisp_programming_language |
| 12:28.58 | YammYgirlcoding | rofl. It's all in ( ) with lisp? rofl |
| 12:30.12 | YammYgirlcoding | why someone should write a language that make us waste time typing ( )s all the time? /hated language |
| 12:30.13 | haste | I have some applications that use it for configurations, which is just wrong |
| 12:30.25 | krka | YammYgirlcoding: lots of reasons |
| 12:30.31 | krka | it's damn easy to write a parser, for one thing |
| 12:31.06 | YammYgirlcoding | hmmm Well. I code for years, and never needed a parser. Still ugly for me :) |
| 12:31.24 | zenzelezz | yes you did, unless your code is never run |
| 12:32.19 | krka | it's also convenient since you can do all sorts of crazy data / code mixing |
| 12:32.44 | krka | not sure that's all due to the parens though |
| 12:34.13 | YammYgirlcoding | that reminds of times when people used to mix <?php> with html, that was so ugly. Glady I learned to abstract ui from data ;) |
| 12:34.43 | amro | that reminds me of times when I used php. glad I don't anymore :) |
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| 12:37.30 | YammYgirlcoding | guys. that's off. but anyone knows dan west from WorldOfWarcraftMastery.com ? Boy. He is bugging me sending tons of mails just because I replied to him saying I don't want yet another not original guide. |
| 12:37.56 | YammYgirlcoding | he bugs you guys too? |
| 12:38.03 | Cide- | YammYgirlcoding: to answer your question |
| 12:38.17 | YammYgirlcoding | Cide- shoot! :) |
| 12:38.24 | Cide- | no, it's likely intended since I haven't had to change anything in the code |
| 12:38.59 | YammYgirlcoding | so why it says it was updated 2 weeks ago? maybe you should add the reference date for this :) |
| 12:39.13 | Cide- | because there was a patch |
| 12:39.41 | YammYgirlcoding | still. the data from files are from may :) |
| 12:39.43 | Cide- | it's better to show the users that it was updated for the patch, even if it wasn't |
| 12:39.48 | Cide- | so what? |
| 12:40.09 | YammYgirlcoding | as it doesnt have a reference date, we think it was really 2 weeks ago :) |
| 12:40.19 | Cide- | and why is that a problem? |
| 12:40.25 | Cide- | I never asserted that the file modification date should be the same as the upload date |
| 12:41.26 | zenzelezz | think what she's saying is that the May version had an issue and she thought the new version had a fix |
| 12:41.26 | YammYgirlcoding | the download files doesn't show the upload date either :) U can low down the uploads from your site with such information anywhere in dl page :) So people like me would not download it for nothing ;) |
| 12:42.06 | YammYgirlcoding | i mean. download page says 'uploaded 2 weeks ago' . but says no reference date, so we think it was from today, not from your reference date |
| 12:43.17 | YammYgirlcoding | think is. the file is not really new. its last files are from may. but download site says 'uploaded two weeks ago'. get it? |
| 12:43.43 | YammYgirlcoding | just asking for a reference date :) |
| 12:44.03 | Cide- | that's the date you have |
| 12:44.12 | Cide- | I won't be providing more data because that would be a pain to add |
| 12:44.17 | YammYgirlcoding | see. many people might be downloading it for nothing, wasting your link |
| 12:44.20 | Cide- | no |
| 12:44.25 | Cide- | many people will download it |
| 12:44.30 | Cide- | because they don't when there's not a patch |
| 12:44.38 | YammYgirlcoding | yes thinkint it was really updated 2 weeks ago, and it wasnt |
| 12:44.41 | Cide- | thus they get updated to the most recent version even if it's not a new release |
| 12:44.46 | Cide- | good, then the system is working as planned |
| 12:45.06 | Cide- | now, we can discuss this further when I get back, but I have to leave |
| 12:45.07 | Cide- | bye |
| 12:45.13 | YammYgirlcoding | rofl. okey |
| 12:45.33 | YammYgirlcoding | I guess he didn't get the whole point. |
| 12:46.58 | zenzelezz | I'm not sure you expressed it too well; or maybe you just don't agree |
| 12:47.16 | zenzelezz | I think the "2 weeks ago" on the website may be generated when you load it, so it really is relative to today |
| 12:47.46 | YammYgirlcoding | i was trying to help. the 'two weeks ago' leads to useless downloads that consumes his site link |
| 12:48.01 | zenzelezz | I'm not saying your intentions weren't good |
| 12:48.10 | YammYgirlcoding | isp uses to charge for the extra downloads |
| 12:48.36 | YammYgirlcoding | as I said. Inside the zip, the files were from may. So the 'two weeks ago' leads to error, get it? |
| 12:48.53 | N00bZXI | Wasn't there a patch? |
| 12:49.06 | YammYgirlcoding | and many people might download it thinking it was really updated when it was not. ( ctmod.net ) |
| 12:49.15 | zenzelezz | YammYgirlcoding: I believe he only meant the .toc file is updated so WoW won't show it as out of date |
| 12:49.15 | YammYgirlcoding | ctunitframes.zip |
| 12:49.21 | N00bZXI | and wouldn't there be a .toc update? |
| 12:49.24 | YammYgirlcoding | not even the toc was updated |
| 12:50.28 | YammYgirlcoding | as I'm saying. it need to show the reference date for the 'two weeks ago', because from today, it should be june, but it wasnt. cause probably he added the file some date in june |
| 12:50.34 | Thrae | !help |
| 12:51.08 | zenzelezz | YammYgirlcoding: as *I* said, I think the reference date is the time when you load the page, and the text is dynamically generated |
| 12:51.44 | YammYgirlcoding | hmm. even so. two weeks ago is june, and the files time are from may. the code is wrong then. |
| 12:52.04 | zenzelezz | let me repeat - the reference is the .zip, not the files inside it |
| 12:52.30 | YammYgirlcoding | oooh. hmm but if the zip changed, why there were no files with date changed inside? makes no sense. |
| 12:52.44 | zenzelezz | that I can't answer |
| 12:52.58 | YammYgirlcoding | he zipped again even if didnt update anything? that is odd :) |
| 12:53.24 | YammYgirlcoding | and people say i'm the one crazy =^^= |
| 12:53.52 | zenzelezz | I agree that that would be weird, but from the front page it sounds as if he update (or at least meant to) the .toc file, nothing more |
| 12:54.18 | YammYgirlcoding | my point is that he didnt update anything at all , not even the toc. all files remain from may |
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| 12:55.00 | YammYgirlcoding | am I the only one that has seen a failure on this ? |
| 12:55.18 | YammYgirlcoding | come on. I'm not a genius. |
| 12:55.52 | N00bZXI | Well depending on if a .toc update was intended |
| 12:56.02 | N00bZXI | could be a mistake or could be something else |
| 12:56.09 | YammYgirlcoding | Cide- makes me feel like that guy that said the world was rounded with everyone staring surprised at me |
| 12:56.59 | YammYgirlcoding | well I tried. |
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| 12:57.58 | Nom- | Anyone know how the heck a ret pally can get to the top of the damage meters? Not using SoC ? |
| 12:58.13 | zenzelezz | haxx |
| 12:58.30 | N00bZXI | Probably was in a BG before the raid started and damage he did there just sync'ed onto it |
| 12:58.32 | zenzelezz | YammYgirlcoding: that was also a difference of agreement |
| 12:58.59 | N00bZXI | Or at least I've had that happen and I don't see any other reason he could've |
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| 12:59.20 | YammYgirlcoding | who knows :) |
| 13:00.14 | YammYgirlcoding | if you could not work on monday, where would you go farm that would be great on a monday day? :) |
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| 13:11.30 | N00bZXI | Question: Is there something I could hook to find out when DropDownList3 is created? |
| 13:18.24 | foxlit | CreateFrame! |
| 13:18.27 | Kaso | UIDropDownMenu_CreateFrames ? |
| 13:18.38 | foxlit | most generic and evil hook ever |
| 13:18.46 | Kaso | check out the code line 155 of UIDropDownMenu.lua |
| 13:19.26 | Kaso | hook set point then invert the co-ordinates, chaos, chaos i tell you! |
| 13:20.08 | N00bZXI | Kaso: I'll look at UIDropDownMenu_CreateFrames, thanks! |
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| 13:39.44 | Yinxie | Hello all! |
| 13:40.06 | Kaso | mornin' |
| 13:42.07 | Yinxie | its 15:42 here so not really morning :P |
| 13:44.43 | Kaso | tis always morning when you join the channel my friend. |
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| 13:45.51 | Josh_Borke | morning |
| 13:45.53 | Josh_Borke | ~ugt |
| 13:45.53 | purl | hmm... ugt is Universial Greeting Time. Created in #mipslinux, it is a rule that states that whenever somebody enters an IRC channel it is always morning, and it is always late when the person leaves. The local time of any other people in the channel, including the greeter, is irrelevant. http://www.total-knowledge.com/~ilya/mips/ugt.html |
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| 13:49.13 | Yinxie | ah ok |
| 13:49.14 | Yinxie | rofl |
| 13:49.35 | Yinxie | well goodmorning then ^^ |
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| 14:11.20 | TS|Skrom | Lopeppeppy |
| 14:11.23 | TS|Skrom | stop being so fast. |
| 14:11.38 | zenzelezz | ..? |
| 14:11.58 | TS|Skrom | she's ninja'ing my responses on the forums. beating me to the punch XD |
| 14:12.20 | Lopeppeppy | I'm sick, not brain dead. *giggle* Morning, TS|Skrom. |
| 14:12.33 | TS|Skrom | sick? aww |
| 14:12.58 | TS|Skrom | cogwheel's feeding the trolls (Best click to heal addon thread) |
| 14:13.03 | Lopeppeppy | That which does not kill us makes us stronger, and Death is only the beginning. |
| 14:13.23 | Lopeppeppy | Yeah, I saw. When Cogwheel gets all "in yo face" in an Ace thread, I just back away. :) |
| 14:14.49 | TS|Skrom | I love |Jelly|'s responses though, "if it's not ace, it's illegal" |
| 14:15.03 | Lopeppeppy | works for me! |
| 14:15.31 | |Jelly| | It's the truth -- what can I say? |
| 14:15.49 | |Jelly| | But even I am breaking the law then! |
| 14:15.49 | Lopeppeppy | Lock me up and throw away the key, I do Illegal Things! |
| 14:15.50 | TS|Skrom | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=174630950&sid=1 I hate threads like this... because it's like they read enough to think about /stopcasting or they heard it from their friend or something, but didn't try hard enough to just read the whole sticky >< |
| 14:16.29 | Lopeppeppy | One click, one cast. It should be like... the title of the whole world. |
| 14:17.35 | cladhaire | YAY my laptop is coming home! |
| 14:17.41 | |Jelly| | yay! |
| 14:18.41 | cladhaire | srsly :P |
| 14:18.50 | Lopeppeppy | Excellent, cladhaire! Will it have no screwdriver inclusions this time? |
| 14:18.55 | Thrae | cladhaire: *sniffs* It's always so excellent when your little electronics still remember to visit their original owners. |
| 14:18.57 | cladhaire | here's hoping! |
| 14:19.33 | |Jelly| | My favorite are the kind that are "Can I cast renew on person x, then gheal on person y followed by renew on person z? I'd really rather not play my character so much as just push one button over and over again." |
| 14:19.57 | Lopeppeppy | Those people loved HealBot. |
| 14:20.11 | |Jelly| | I loved healbot. |
| 14:20.34 | TS|Skrom | I didn't know about healbot and made my own <3 |
| 14:20.47 | |Jelly| | (as an enhancement shaman who only healed in "oh shit" situations" |
| 14:20.48 | |Jelly| | ( |
| 14:20.53 | TS|Skrom | course I played a hunter at the time I made it so didn't do me much good |
| 14:20.54 | |Jelly| | ) -- I fail at typing |
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| 14:21.34 | cladhaire | i hated healbot with a passion |
| 14:22.26 | cladhaire | I've healed with keys, I've healed with click-casting, and I know it takes skill.. Healers that want the game to be one-button mashable make me sad, because they can't heal without their addons (generalization, of course) |
| 14:22.43 | TS|Skrom | my addon made the game fun for my brother |
| 14:23.00 | TS|Skrom | he had real bad lag due to a client/computer problem which was later fixed via a patch |
| 14:23.33 | TS|Skrom | with my healbot type mod he could actually heal in group because he didn't have to wait for his screen to update graphically |
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| 14:23.54 | TS|Skrom | wasn't ideal no, but it helped |
| 14:24.35 | cladhaire | understood |
| 14:24.38 | cladhaire | but that was to solve a problem |
| 14:24.43 | cladhaire | did he learn to heal before and after that? |
| 14:24.46 | cladhaire | if not, I don't like it =) |
| 14:25.13 | TS|Skrom | actually ironically enough, he quit playing about two weeks after the lag was fixed XD |
| 14:25.18 | cladhaire | haha |
| 14:25.33 | Thrae | I don't consider myself going against the TOS when I use botting so my 2-year old can play! |
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| 14:27.04 | zenzelezz | shame he plays better than you |
| 14:27.19 | nevcairiel | lol |
| 14:27.28 | |Jelly| | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=174830214&sid=1 <-- lol |
| 14:27.54 | Thrae | My 2-year old plays a Rogue and spams one /castrandom button! |
| 14:28.18 | Lopeppeppy | Castrandom? *giggle* |
| 14:28.51 | Thrae | Lopeppeppy: It's perfect for Rogues, since they can't "run out" of their power ;) |
| 14:28.56 | |Jelly| | Ahh. So nice to be back. *missed Peppy* |
| 14:28.58 | Lopeppeppy | I can support age restrictions, honestly.... even if I think they're immature. |
| 14:29.20 | Lopeppeppy | I can see it working, Thrae. < --- rogue main And I can see it working scarily well... |
| 14:29.42 | cladhaire | yep =) |
| 14:29.47 | cladhaire | love my rogue.. that sounds like fun |
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| 14:30.04 | Thrae | Cat Druid version -- /castrandom Mangle (Cat)(), Mangle (Cat)(), Mangle (Cat)(), Mangle (Cat)(), Faerie Fire (Feral)(), Faerie Fire (Feral)(), Faerie Fire (Feral)(), Rake, Rake, Rip |
| 14:30.10 | Lopeppeppy | It so truly could be. |
| 14:30.17 | Thrae | Works excellently for me |
| 14:33.02 | Thrae | Cat Druid version -- /castrandom Shred, Shred, Shred, Shred, Shred, Shred, Shred, Mangle (Cat)(), Mangle (Cat)(), Mangle (Cat)(), Mangle (Cat)(), Faerie Fire (Feral)(), Faerie Fire (Feral)(), Faerie Fire (Feral)(), Rake, Rake, Rake, Rip, Rip <-- ez-mode DPS version! |
| 14:33.08 | |Jelly| | [09:19]* Lopeppeppy{#wowi-lounge} bonks |Jelly| on the head -- What did I miss? |
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| 14:37.17 | Lopeppeppy | Quoting me in the healing macro thread. Very funny. :P |
| 14:37.52 | |Jelly| | Oh. |
| 14:37.55 | |Jelly| | I changed your name! |
| 14:39.55 | Lopeppeppy | Of course, to protect the sweet and innocent! *preens* |
| 14:40.06 | |Jelly| | <333 |
| 14:40.14 | TS|Skrom | this is a wow forum/irc |
| 14:40.16 | TS|Skrom | no such thing |
| 14:40.22 | Lopeppeppy | Srsly. I totally am. |
| 14:40.29 | N00bZXI | One thing I don't understand is why users even know a mod is based off ace... most people don't know what libraries a random app uses |
| 14:40.48 | TS|Skrom | they use the ace updater? |
| 14:41.03 | N00bZXI | I need sleep |
| 14:41.05 | TS|Skrom | if it shows up in that list it must be ace right? |
| 14:41.05 | N00bZXI | : |
| 14:41.07 | N00bZXI | : |
| 14:41.08 | |Jelly| | They know what their friends tell them. |
| 14:41.13 | N00bZXI | :\ |
| 14:41.14 | dukeku_ | why would you carE? |
| 14:41.18 | Lopeppeppy | Ace is coolio! Get it! |
| 14:41.21 | TS|Skrom | why do YOU care! |
| 14:41.24 | TS|Skrom | wanna fight about it/ |
| 14:41.27 | TS|Skrom | :D |
| 14:41.27 | dukeku_ | i dont :( |
| 14:41.29 | Lopeppeppy | Peer pressure shows up in the most stupid things, I swear. |
| 14:41.31 | dukeku_ | i don't even play wow |: |
| 14:41.42 | dukeku_ | don't ask why i'm still here :D |
| 14:42.02 | Lopeppeppy | Hangin' with programmers. We talk programming sometimes too. |
| 14:42.08 | zenzelezz | that's obvious, you're here to hit on Cairenn like the rest of us |
| 14:42.21 | TS|Skrom | :O |
| 14:42.30 | |Jelly| | <-- isn't here to hit on Cairenn. I <3 Peppy! |
| 14:42.43 | TS|Skrom | is Cairenn a redhead? |
| 14:42.58 | dukeku_ | i've been here since there were less than ten people in the channel |
| 14:43.00 | dukeku_ | old schoolz~ |
| 14:43.37 | dukeku_ | this is a pretty active channel in the day, gives me something to read while i try to appear like i'm working :P |
| 14:43.47 | Thrae | if EmotionEngine:FeelLikeTalking() and SpaceNTime:Proximity(laptop) then print("We do some coding talk in here for sure.") else sleep(5) end |
| 14:43.54 | zenzelezz | you'll notice he didn't dispute my claim |
| 14:44.22 | TS|Skrom | Thrae.... |
| 14:44.26 | TS|Skrom | XD |
| 14:44.32 | dukeku_ | i don't do lua :( |
| 14:44.40 | dukeku_ | c and perl, plz (hurr i get paid to do them) |
| 14:45.40 | dukeku_ | lua is scary and foreign, although i assume not terribly complicated |
| 14:46.31 | N00bZXI | I find it easier to use than most languages |
| 14:46.37 | TS|Skrom | get a room |
| 14:46.45 | Lopeppeppy | *sniff* |
| 14:46.58 | TS|Skrom | and then invite me in was the second half of that sentance |
| 14:47.20 | Lopeppeppy | *laugh* |
| 14:47.20 | TS|Skrom | bow chica wow, batta do datta do wow |
| 14:47.24 | |Jelly| | Oh man. I'd get a room with Peppy! <3 Gnome! |
| 14:47.26 | dukeku_ | shabadaha |
| 14:47.33 | Lopeppeppy | Redhead gnome. |
| 14:50.41 | Thrae | TS|Skrom: if EmotionEngine.EgoShield < 0.5 or EmotionEngine["Freudian Id"] then NeuralEngine('skill', 'keyboard', 'typing', "WHAT?!?!?!?!") else NeuralEngine('skill', 'keyboard', 'typing', "Huh?" end |
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| 14:51.49 | TS|Skrom | mah breen meets jus sploded |
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| 14:52.11 | Thrae | TS|Skrom: syntax error in Brain_IRC_Reply.lua on line 618373109 -- expected ')' |
| 14:52.18 | Lopeppeppy | I think that's the "Neural Engine" aspect... |
| 14:52.28 | |Jelly| | I think I'm confused. |
| 14:52.37 | |Jelly| | Not 100% sure, but I think I'm confused. |
| 14:52.47 | Thrae | |Jelly|: syntax error in Brain_IRC_Reply.lua on line 618373109 -- expected ')' |
| 14:52.58 | |Jelly| | Peppy! Help! |
| 14:53.19 | TS|Skrom | syntax error in Core_Functions.lua on line 8675309 -- expected Jenny) |
| 14:54.01 | Thrae | <God> Dammit, forgot to end that function closure. OK, people, fixed. <God> lua -c Thrae Thrae.lua. <God> Ack, wrong terminal. |
| 14:54.26 | |Jelly| | My head just kind of exploded. |
| 14:54.37 | Lopeppeppy | Thrae... this is for you, for breakin' my friends with crazy luas! |
| 14:54.39 | Lopeppeppy | http://www.fazed.org/content/clock_spider/ |
| 14:54.48 | Lopeppeppy | It's comin' for you! |
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| 14:57.36 | N00bZXI | Is there anything in the following code that would cause wow to lock up? http://wowi.pastey.net/70532 |
| 14:57.52 | Thrae | local http,lnl2 = require("socket.http"), require("socket.lnl2"); local sink = {}; local _,status,headers = http.request({url="http://www.fazed.org/content/clock_spider/", method="GET", sink=lnl2.sink(sink)}); DownloadToBrain(table.concat(sink,"")) |
| 14:58.38 | Lopeppeppy | Bad Thrae. Go see the spider and be wigged out. G'wan now, go do. |
| 14:59.08 | TS|Skrom | N00bZXI that while true do end near the bottom might be the culprit |
| 14:59.50 | krka | i actually looked for that now :( |
| 14:59.50 | N00bZXI | TS |
| 14:59.52 | N00bZXI | bleh |
| 15:00.00 | N00bZXI | new keyboard with | key somewhere I can never find it |
| 15:00.13 | Thrae | Lopeppeppy: Yeah, I've seen spiders that big before in my house. We used to have tons of spiders here. Many Wolf Spiders too, which are poisonous. |
| 15:00.29 | N00bZXI | anyway, what line? I don't see any while true do |
| 15:00.44 | Thrae | However, most spiders aren't going to attack a human. |
| 15:00.45 | TS|Skrom | was a joke mon capitan |
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| 15:00.58 | N00bZXI | :\ |
| 15:01.13 | krka | wtf do you declare temporary variables at the top? |
| 15:01.24 | Thrae | I once named a spider which lived on the end of my bed "George". |
| 15:01.48 | krka | smaller scope is better when possible |
| 15:01.49 | N00bZXI | krka: I reuse the same variable any time I need a temporary variable |
| 15:01.55 | krka | that's stupid |
| 15:01.59 | N00bZXI | And so I don't need to write the word 'local' all the time |
| 15:02.14 | Thrae | krka: It's a standard for C/C++ due to how it looks in assembly, but doesn't really apply to Lua ;) |
| 15:02.59 | Lopeppeppy | Thrae: I don't much mind spiders, except the spindly little Arachnaphobia ones. This big guy I'd have scrunched with the clock, not taken the clock down and taken pictures. |
| 15:03.00 | Thrae | N00bZXI: If it's a WoW function returning something, most likely it's going to be a reference, not using up any real memory. |
| 15:03.33 | Thrae | N00bZXI: Boolean values and strings especially are just references |
| 15:03.51 | Thrae | As are numbers returned by a function |
| 15:04.01 | TS|Skrom | spiders give me the heebie jeebies no matter what |
| 15:04.12 | TS|Skrom | I'm getting better though |
| 15:04.13 | Thrae | N00bZXI: In Lua, references == "upvalues" |
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| 15:04.40 | Lopeppeppy | Heebie jeebies are best cured with a flyswatter, TS|Skrom. Kill 'em. |
| 15:04.45 | TS|Skrom | that one I probably would have been fine with |
| 15:04.48 | TS|Skrom | because i could see it |
| 15:04.58 | TS|Skrom | when I can't see em and they are crawling on my shoulder, that's when I have issues |
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| 15:05.06 | krka | N00bZXI: by making your local variables local to the scope they need, you make the code easier to read, and it's also a slight performance boost |
| 15:05.10 | N00bZXI | Thrae: But why not declare the variable at the top of the file so I don't need to write the word local all the time? |
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| 15:06.03 | krka | Thrae: not sure i agree with reference = upvalue. tables, functions, strings are always refered to by reference, regardless of upvalue or not |
| 15:06.19 | Lopeppeppy | TS|Skrom, you must invest in a personal bodyguard to smack all such wildlife from your person. Children are great, and work cheap. |
| 15:06.48 | krka | N00bZXI: do you really code that much slower from typing local? |
| 15:06.51 | Thrae | N00bZXI: What krka said. It'll probably be easier to maintain, and you can also have sane names for your variables, like local isPlayerOrPet = IsPlayerControlled(unit); -- There is absolutely no reason to put this in a temporary variable |
| 15:07.08 | Thrae | krka: Hmm yeah, I got ahead of myself |
| 15:07.28 | Thrae | I code in C and Lua more often theses days... |
| 15:08.04 | Yinxie | Guys any of u have a moment? im trying to bind a spell to a button |
| 15:08.29 | Yinxie | you select the spell with a dropdown menu, and i made a new spell, with no name so it cant be cast |
| 15:08.52 | Yinxie | but when i go from a spell i can cast, to one i cant, it still casts the old one |
| 15:08.55 | Yinxie | any idea? |
| 15:10.13 | krka | personally, i spend much more time thinking about what i want to do / sketching on paper, than actually typing the code |
| 15:10.24 | Josh_Borke | i spend more time debugging my typos myself |
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| 15:10.30 | krka | it's not even comparable |
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| 15:30.30 | TS|Skrom | http://wowi.pastey.net/70534 |
| 15:30.36 | TS|Skrom | there's gotta be an easier way to do this |
| 15:30.44 | TS|Skrom | my brains frazzled atm though and I'm not seeing it |
| 15:30.49 | TS|Skrom | two macros btw |
| 15:33.13 | Josh_Borke | you're leaking g and c |
| 15:34.52 | Josh_Borke | and you're leaking n,r,s |
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| 15:35.07 | Josh_Borke | and that won't even work :-/ |
| 15:35.53 | Lopeppeppy | You were leaking your variables the other day too, TS|Skrom. I should get you some caulking. |
| 15:36.04 | cog|work | TS|Skrom: instead of cycling through the whole raid for each friend, make the friends' names the KEYs of the table and cycle through the raid once checking to see if the name exists in the frind s table |
| 15:36.30 | cog|work | s/frind s/friends/ |
| 15:37.15 | TS|Skrom | heh |
| 15:37.18 | cog|work | I always find it helpful to write the code longhand and then compress it when you put it in the macro |
| 15:37.30 | TS|Skrom | yeah I forgot local this time when I rewrote it, but it was already too long as it was :-/ |
| 15:37.58 | |Jelly| | Can anyone recommend a good guild tool that will let me boot massive numbers of people that fit certain criteria? |
| 15:38.22 | TS|Skrom | bad weekend |Jelly|? |
| 15:38.36 | [dRaCo] | just /gdisband and invite those back who complain ;) |
| 15:38.58 | Lopeppeppy | You were wanting to do the bootski a few weeks ago too, |Jelly|. |
| 15:38.59 | |Jelly| | No. The co-leaders of my guild (The leaders of the guild I merged with) broke up iRL so he left and she's apathetic to what I do so everyone that's not 60+ is getting the boot. |
| 15:39.17 | |Jelly| | But that's like...70% of the guild and a complete pain in the butt if I have to do it by hand. |
| 15:39.22 | [dRaCo] | evil! |
| 15:39.45 | Lopeppeppy | ../gdisband will be quicker, but then you have to recharter and all that crap. |
| 15:39.59 | TS|Skrom | I'll make a toon on your server, you invite me, promote me and I'll do it for you. it's just the kind of power trip I need to make my day be great |
| 15:40.16 | Lopeppeppy | I always feel guilty when I weed out my guild.... |
| 15:40.19 | |Jelly| | I'm patient enough not to gdisband but it would be nice if there was like a guild removal tool. lol |
| 15:40.24 | |Jelly| | I don't. |
| 15:40.27 | |Jelly| | Trimming the fat. |
| 15:40.37 | [dRaCo] | shouldnt be too hard to code, though |
| 15:40.40 | |Jelly| | Dildos that only beg for runs and money and what not. Peace out. |
| 15:40.56 | Lopeppeppy | Those get the bootski without doubt. |
| 15:41.01 | N00bZXI | How'd all those people get invited in the first place? |
| 15:41.07 | |Jelly| | Merge. |
| 15:41.19 | N00bZXI | no, I mean before that |
| 15:41.24 | Lopeppeppy | I felt bad because I contributed to someone getting /gkicked last week... they were begging and I contacted their officers.... |
| 15:41.27 | |Jelly| | They were in the other guild? |
| 15:41.34 | |Jelly| | rofl... |
| 15:41.42 | [dRaCo] | for i=0 to guild.membercount do if guild[i].level < 60 gkick(guild[i]) end |
| 15:41.47 | [dRaCo] | or something like that |
| 15:42.04 | Lopeppeppy | Seriously? Would that work? |
| 15:42.05 | |Jelly| | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=114925768&sid=1 |
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| 15:42.25 | [dRaCo] | dunno if there something like guild.membercount |
| 15:43.12 | cladhaire | Do we like this bag? http://www.swissarmy.com/TravelGear/Product.htm?category=businessgearmessengers&product=32341& |
| 15:43.12 | |Jelly| | We got him kicked out and I couldn't have been happier about it, Peppy. <3 |
| 15:43.15 | cladhaire | Or anyone have other suggestions? |
| 15:43.48 | |Jelly| | Mine's a backpack. : / |
| 15:43.48 | [dRaCo] | wut? 135$ for a lousy laptop bag? |
| 15:43.57 | cog|work | I like backpack ones too |
| 15:44.07 | cladhaire | have any specific backpack ones you like? |
| 15:44.07 | [dRaCo] | yeah, using a backpack, too |
| 15:44.09 | TS|Skrom | |Jelly| I think I've got something for ya, give me a minute |
| 15:44.27 | [dRaCo] | depending on how much $ you wanna spend, clad |
| 15:44.27 | Lopeppeppy | My bag is a work-provided to go with their laptop.... I think I would like this bag, Cladhaire. |
| 15:44.35 | cog|work | we just grabbed one at best buy one day |
| 15:44.38 | |Jelly| | http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp?skuId=6564611&type=product&productCategoryId=cat08003&id=1077630481064 <-- Mine |
| 15:44.40 | cladhaire | i will be riding bikes relatively frequently |
| 15:44.50 | cladhaire | [dRaCo]: I'm open, depending on how good the bag is |
| 15:45.09 | [dRaCo] | makes a backpack even more the better choice, doesnt it? |
| 15:45.14 | TS|Skrom | #api GuildInfo |
| 15:45.18 | cladhaire | in theory, yes |
| 15:45.22 | cladhaire | i dont think its cut and dry, however |
| 15:45.27 | TS|Skrom | no bots >< |
| 15:45.29 | cladhaire | Since I don't actually know how much biking i'll be doing =) |
| 15:45.50 | cog|work | make sure it has wide straps and plenty of padding |
| 15:46.00 | TS|Skrom | of course, when I'm in a hurry, the laptop bluescreens >< |
| 15:46.04 | [dRaCo] | the one jelly posted looks great |
| 15:46.34 | |Jelly| | I <3 it. I bike rather frequently with it and it sits pretty well. There's padding on your back so you don't sweat your arse off too. (Live in Texas...) |
| 15:46.40 | N00bZXI | I wish I saw that link.. three years ago |
| 15:46.49 | N00bZXI | when I used a laptop |
| 15:46.54 | cladhaire | hrm |
| 15:47.00 | Lopeppeppy | A backpack has more potential for less jostling than a messenger bag on a bike, just due to how it rides. Unless the messenger bag is in a carry or basket, that whole shoulder-sling would drive me postal riding a bike. |
| 15:47.25 | Valaron|Work | yup yup |
| 15:48.09 | cladhaire | well a timbuk2 bag has a belt |
| 15:48.10 | [dRaCo] | yeah, that's why I bought a backpack |
| 15:48.22 | cladhaire | that attaches the messenger to you, puts the weight on your waist instead of your shoulder |
| 15:48.58 | TS|Skrom | ./run local n=GetNumGuildMembers() for i=1,n do local a,_,_,l = GetGuildRosterInfo(i) if l<60 then GuildUninviteByName(a) end end |
| 15:49.24 | Lopeppeppy | Hmm.... would you be comfy riding a bike with a laptop on your waist though? I'd go backpack, so it rides higher and doesn't frell up my biking-motion. |
| 15:49.26 | [dRaCo] | hey, real lua ;) |
| 15:49.51 | Lopeppeppy | And I like "guild uninvite". I hate the "kicked from the guild" messages. |
| 15:50.06 | |Jelly| | Oh. I plan on making a LOT of them. |
| 15:50.22 | |Jelly| | Kicked from the guild messages, that is. |
| 15:50.23 | TS|Skrom | unless I missed something (likely) that should work |Jelly| |
| 15:50.45 | |Jelly| | http://armory.worldofwarcraft.com/#guild-info.xml?n=Vendetta&r=Burning+Legion&p=1&sf=level&sd=a Everyone not 60+ by Saturday night = gone! |
| 15:51.25 | Yinxie | i hate guilds kicking for lvl\ |
| 15:51.29 | Yinxie | what about alts? |
| 15:51.48 | Lopeppeppy | Alts may re-apply, and be considered on a case-basis. |
| 15:52.02 | TS|Skrom | when I ran my eq guild we only added alts that were 60+ ;-) |
| 15:52.15 | Lopeppeppy | Anyone who is interested and qualified to stay will understand that sometimes the baby gets tossed with the bathwater, and adjustment takes understanding on both sides. |
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| 15:52.23 | |Jelly| | Yinxie: Do what you like with your guild and I'll do what I want with my guild. I'm sick and tired of constantly being asked to heal some level 40 instance. |
| 15:53.01 | |Jelly| | ESPECIALLY by people that seem to not give a rat's ass about actually, you know, leveling. : / |
| 15:53.03 | Yinxie | lol |
| 15:53.11 | |Jelly| | ONLY PEPPY! GRR! |
| 15:53.14 | TS|Skrom | sadly I fall into that category |
| 15:53.20 | Lopeppeppy | Rawr. |
| 15:53.27 | TS|Skrom | two 60's and a 62... and I play my teens characters |
| 15:53.35 | Yinxie | well we got a rule in our guild that we dont do boosts or instances 5 lvls below self |
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| 15:53.55 | Lopeppeppy | 5 levels, not too bad. |
| 15:54.11 | |Jelly| | So you turned a level limit into...a personal level limit? |
| 15:54.14 | Lopeppeppy | We do guild nights, where we'll go anywhere on that one night, so save your requests for Tuesday. |
| 15:54.34 | |Jelly| | I'm going to roll on your server just to stalk you! |
| 15:54.39 | jme | hmm |
| 15:54.44 | Lopeppeppy | Hmm.... |
| 15:54.46 | |Jelly| | stalk stalk stalk stalk stalk! |
| 15:54.50 | Yinxie | anyway guys im out |
| 15:54.53 | Yinxie | gotta work;) |
| 15:54.58 | Lopeppeppy | Enjoy the work-doom. |
| 15:54.59 | TS|Skrom | I already did <-- |Bean| |
| 15:55.01 | jme | did i hear rumors they were planning on adding heroic mode to the old azeroth instances? |
| 15:55.11 | Lopeppeppy | Bah. Never happen, jme. |
| 15:55.12 | |Jelly| | That'd be nice. |
| 15:55.23 | Lopeppeppy | That would give people like.... some reason to visit them, or something. |
| 15:55.27 | TS|Skrom | work is for suckers |
| 15:55.32 | |Jelly| | But so would flying myself from point a to point b. |
| 15:55.45 | jme | i think it'd be neat |
| 15:55.54 | jme | heroic SM? heh |
| 15:56.11 | Lopeppeppy | Scarlet Monastery is for rustling up some quick cash, or pretty armor for level 30-35. |
| 15:56.34 | jme | yeah... i wore most of that set until ~50 |
| 15:56.55 | Lopeppeppy | There's some extremely useful items from those bosses. Much fun. |
| 15:57.14 | Lopeppeppy | Speed record is a 12 minute Cathedral clear, but I was being lazy that day too. |
| 15:57.15 | TS|Skrom | and they look absolutely hawt too |
| 15:57.23 | Lopeppeppy | Black Mageweave set is hawt. |
| 15:57.44 | jme | Lopeppeppy: mage aoe? |
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| 15:57.52 | TS|Skrom | whitemane's chapeau with Enchanted gold bloodrobe = <3 |
| 15:58.57 | Lopeppeppy | jme -- rogue slashin'. |
| 15:59.03 | jme | Lopeppeppy: ah |
| 15:59.27 | Lopeppeppy | Whitemane has a great hat and healing mace, Mograine has a nice shield, Herod has good shoulders. |
| 15:59.31 | N00bZXI | jme: I hope they don't add any old content heroics. |
| 15:59.39 | Lopeppeppy | So does the undead guy in the secret room, actually. |
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| 16:00.45 | |Jelly| | But do you do it on pull? 8P |
| 16:00.49 | |Jelly| | on=in |
| 16:01.31 | Lopeppeppy | Still don't understand, |Jelly|, even with the correction... |
| 16:01.46 | |Jelly| | Cath. 12 minutes. One pull. ? |
| 16:02.13 | Lopeppeppy | No... I'm not a paladin. *grin* That video is just plain sick. |
| 16:02.19 | |Jelly| | <3 |
| 16:02.26 | Lopeppeppy | Makes me want to try it with my paladin.... *ponders* |
| 16:02.34 | |Jelly| | I've gotten to where I hate tanking on my paladin. |
| 16:02.44 | |Jelly| | People are like "ZOMG! I MUST CC" |
| 16:02.56 | |Jelly| | to which I respond "rofl noob...CONSECRATE" |
| 16:02.57 | cladhaire | and my laptop is back |
| 16:02.59 | cladhaire | with a completely new display |
| 16:03.04 | |Jelly| | yay |
| 16:03.05 | cladhaire | bastards |
| 16:03.12 | Maldivia | cladhaire: your $800 display ? |
| 16:03.14 | cladhaire | shutting this shitty laptop down |
| 16:03.26 | cladhaire | be back in a few |
| 16:04.02 | Lopeppeppy | *cheers Cladhaire* |
| 16:04.19 | dylanm | Glad you got that working again, clad. |
| 16:05.34 | Lopeppeppy | Now shove the screwdriver inclusion somewhere that a technician really won't appreciate! |
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| 16:05.51 | |Jelly| | So...what's the story with the screw driver? |
| 16:08.24 | Lopeppeppy | I seem to remember that techs left some tool -- screwdriver? -- inside the machine on first go, being evil and naughty and frellin' up the works. |
| 16:08.40 | |Jelly| | rofl |
| 16:08.48 | |Jelly| | Poor Clad. |
| 16:09.05 | Lopeppeppy | Poor techs, had that been me and them... mmm-hmm, blood sacrifices all over the room. |
| 16:09.16 | |Jelly| | ...but I remember having extra screws more than once after putting together a customer's machine. |
| 16:09.29 | |Jelly| | Never did I actually leave a tool in a computer though. rogfl |
| 16:09.32 | |Jelly| | rofl! |
| 16:09.57 | |Jelly| | Did you break them again, Cog? |
| 16:10.06 | Lopeppeppy | Extra screws are par for the course... too few tools, bad move. |
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| 16:10.49 | Valaron|Work | No Babes at E3 this year. |
| 16:11.08 | Valaron|Work | http://www.cnn.com/2007/TECH/07/09/video.game.expo.ap/index.html |
| 16:11.10 | Lopeppeppy | Awww... *comforts Valaron* |
| 16:11.20 | Valaron|Work | I'm not going :) |
| 16:11.30 | Valaron|Work | I just hope they announce Mario Kart Wii. |
| 16:11.49 | Lopeppeppy | Wiii would like to play? |
| 16:12.00 | Valaron|Work | ;) |
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| 16:17.49 | N00bZXI | Does somebody know what determines how far a mob will follow you until evading? |
| 16:18.13 | [dRaCo] | there's no max range |
| 16:18.31 | N00bZXI | Not the max range I mean but how long until a mob gives up following |
| 16:18.54 | Lopeppeppy | When they're Evading, anything goes sometimes.... range doesn't matter, because they really aren't where you think they are anyway. |
| 16:19.19 | N00bZXI | I mean when a mob runs and then you run away from it it goes into evade then runs back |
| 16:19.25 | N00bZXI | not when you stand on something and a mob evades |
| 16:19.56 | Lopeppeppy | Oiy. They still act nutty. I've given up before, stood there and let them kill me, just to be done with it. |
| 16:19.59 | N00bZXI | or to put it differently the distance until a mob stops chasing you |
| 16:20.08 | TS|Skrom | it's prbably a function of time since last action |
| 16:20.16 | TS|Skrom | with some variance thrown in |
| 16:20.41 | N00bZXI | ..I just had a mob follow me for about 3/4 the size of un'goro |
| 16:20.45 | TS|Skrom | elites prolly chase longer |
| 16:20.48 | N00bZXI | before I got tired and killed it |
| 16:20.52 | TS|Skrom | lol |
| 16:22.59 | N00bZXI | sad thing is I had killed a mob right before it and didn't loot thinking that'd reset |
| 16:23.13 | N00bZXI | I bet it dropped an epic :) |
| 16:25.09 | TS|Skrom | hehe |
| 16:25.52 | TS|Skrom | hrm... I'm sensing a theme in these hellfire quests |
| 16:26.02 | TS|Skrom | I just logged into my hunter for the first time in months |
| 16:26.04 | [dRaCo] | being? |
| 16:26.11 | TS|Skrom | -%crit , +ap |
| 16:26.56 | [dRaCo] | ap are better for farming anyway, constant dps > burst |
| 16:27.12 | [dRaCo] | considering the item budget, that is |
| 16:27.21 | Lopeppeppy | The one hunter I know who still focuses hard on +crit has an impossible time finding it, she's always sad. |
| 16:27.37 | TS|Skrom | Well sure, but it's hard to see my 20% crit unbuffed going down :( |
| 16:27.49 | TS|Skrom | and I wasn't a raider before I quit,that was all 5 man and a few ZG runs |
| 16:28.00 | TS|Skrom | I was proud of that set damnit ;D |
| 16:29.03 | [dRaCo] | crit is great for pvp and stuff, but since hunters haven't got anything like flurry (they dont, do they?) ap tend to increase your avg dps more |
| 16:29.36 | [dRaCo] | except for BMs... they got that focus regen thingy |
| 16:30.47 | N00bZXI | Any chance someone here knows how I could put the language bar into the notification area? |
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| 16:50.18 | Adys | For the ones interested, theres some weird virus that modifies tos.html / eula.html, its undetectable as it calls an iframe in the EULA and TOS and doesnt "install" itself |
| 16:50.30 | Adys | posted here http://forums.wow-europe.com/thread.html?topicId=298915657&sid=1 |
| 16:51.44 | Cide | heh, nice |
| 16:52.17 | Cide | I joined a new AV instance.. got 0 fps and agUF sitting at 1536 KiB/s |
| 16:52.59 | Cide | thankfully it cleared up |
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| 16:56.51 | afk|n00bzxi | well not really afk, playing dota, but anyway |
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| 17:10.41 | |Jelly| | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=174501166&sid=1 <-- <3 |
| 17:10.56 | TS|Skrom | hrm.... |
| 17:11.16 | Lopeppeppy | Give them a /castrandom sequence for tanking. Works for roguespam, right? Right? *shiver* |
| 17:12.10 | zenzelezz | his signature sort of gives it away |
| 17:14.41 | Lopeppeppy | EZMode is not for noobs. |
| 17:16.25 | Nom- | yay got my epic mount :) |
| 17:16.36 | Lopeppeppy | Yay! What did you choose? |
| 17:16.39 | Nom- | Borred 4000 gold from a guildie :) |
| 17:16.40 | Nom- | Red |
| 17:16.45 | Nom- | Coz it's faster |
| 17:16.51 | Lopeppeppy | Oh, is it now? *laugh* |
| 17:17.09 | Nom- | Absolutely, red makes it go faster! |
| 17:17.33 | Nom- | Now I just need to find somwhere to get 200g per hour |
| 17:17.38 | |Jelly| | Does it have speed holes?!?! |
| 17:18.49 | Nom- | it's fast enough lol |
| 17:19.00 | Nom- | going for a 60% mount to a 280% mount |
| 17:19.07 | Nom- | I cleared Nagrand out in like 1/10th the time |
| 17:19.25 | Lopeppeppy | Neat. |
| 17:19.48 | Nom- | Now I just need to start farming gold like a madman...gotta pay back the guildie then farm gold for my alt's mount |
| 17:19.49 | |Jelly| | I just finished ruining the alliance's day there. |
| 17:19.50 | Lopeppeppy | Pick your collective brains, since I'm just a wee bit slow in processing power today... addon for just trash spawn retimers, like in Karazhan? |
| 17:19.57 | Nom- | at the same time working on netherwing rep etc |
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| 17:29.04 | |Jelly| | Peppy: NECB will do that. |
| 17:30.00 | pastamancer | Lopeppeppy: Incubator |
| 17:30.02 | Lopeppeppy | I found Incubator as well... I'm hoping not to install NECB when all I want is the one function. |
| 17:30.19 | |Jelly| | FINE THEN! *pout* |
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| 17:30.34 | |Jelly| | aww |
| 17:30.40 | |Jelly| | Now I feel bad. 8( |
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| 17:31.08 | |Jelly| | !!!! |
| 17:31.28 | Lopeppeppy | But |Jelly|.... Incubator is Ace, it must be bester-er? Right? *giggle* |
| 17:31.37 | |Jelly| | Touché |
| 17:31.40 | Valaron|Work | Ace is the place. |
| 17:31.48 | cladhaire | wow (http://www.bash.org/?777977) |
| 17:31.53 | Lopeppeppy | I wish I had a helpful hardware man. |
| 17:32.12 | Valaron|Work | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:32.33 | Valaron|Work | PS3 down $100. |
| 17:32.53 | Lopeppeppy | I can like that, Cladhaire.... world is a twisted place. |
| 17:33.37 | |Jelly| | HAHAHAHAHAHA |
| 17:36.00 | Kaso | Man that is awesome, twisted and awesome. |
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| 17:51.46 | nevcairiel | heh someone actually linked that last week ago |
| 17:51.50 | nevcairiel | so awesome |
| 17:52.11 | Lopeppeppy | Twisted is always good. |
| 17:52.45 | Josh_Borke | cladhaire: old. mikma linked it in #dongle 2 weeks ago :-P |
| 17:53.09 | cladhaire | heh |
| 17:53.36 | Lopeppeppy | Not all of us are priviledged to have gotten it. *sniff* |
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| 18:03.50 | Lopeppeppy | Oh, don't start that Valaron... it never ends. *yawns* |
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| 18:08.20 | Josh_Borke | /yawn |
| 18:09.08 | Lopeppeppy | See? |
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| 18:10.27 | voglster | what is this channel for? |
| 18:10.43 | |Jelly|shower | What is this channel for? |
| 18:11.19 | |Jelly| | WoW Interface -- WoW UI customization |
| 18:12.04 | cog|work | voglster: http://www.wowinterface.com |
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| 18:16.10 | Valaron|Work | This channel is to discuss domination of the planet Mars. |
| 18:16.58 | TS|Skrom | it's to discuss how much Valaron sucks for proving me wrong about the raid targets |
| 18:17.08 | Lopeppeppy | Oh... I thought we were transmitting those plans psychically, so that Wil Smith wouldn't interfere? |
| 18:17.41 | TS|Skrom | How could he interfere? he's too busy setting up dweebs with hotties |
| 18:17.41 | Lopeppeppy | I think you're both right, TS|Skrom... the call exists, but I don't think it works the way the OP wants it to? |
| 18:17.43 | |Jelly| | Hey now. Don't bring Big Willie Style into this... |
| 18:17.46 | Valaron|Work | Hee! |
| 18:19.34 | |Jelly| | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=174830214&postId=1744461089&sid=1#27 <-- Imma get flamed! |
| 18:20.29 | Valaron|Work | If it's for chatting: /script local rs={"star","circle","..etc} SendChatMessage("Shackling target with "..rs[GetUnitRaidIndex("focus")]..". You break it, you take it",x) :) |
| 18:20.39 | Josh_Borke | i can't flame you :-( account expired |
| 18:20.50 | |Jelly| | ownt |
| 18:21.01 | Valaron|Work | Errr.. GetRaidTargetIndex |
| 18:21.07 | foxlit | #showtooltip Netherweave Bandage |
| 18:21.15 | foxlit | Anything terribly wrong with that in a macro? |
| 18:21.35 | Valaron|Work | No. Unless you don't have any in your inventory |
| 18:21.56 | foxlit | Ah, I meant heavies |
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| 18:22.59 | Valaron|Work | Setting up Rack Mount UPSes is boring. |
| 18:23.11 | TS|Skrom | yeah it is |
| 18:23.35 | Valaron|Work | I'm out of nearby outlets to plug it into, too. |
| 18:24.03 | Valaron|Work | It's almost lunch, so I'll forgo work until afterwards. |
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| 18:25.34 | Yinxie | Hello guys, im back from work :) |
| 18:25.42 | |Jelly| | Welcome back from work! |
| 18:26.42 | Lopeppeppy | Surprise, I agree with you |Jelly|. http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=174830214&postId=1744261382&sid=1#28 |
| 18:27.04 | |Jelly| | Well, I didn't think many of you guys would disagree with me. lol |
| 18:27.14 | |Jelly| | ...but the average joe probably wont see it that way. |
| 18:27.38 | |Jelly| | *reading* |
| 18:27.45 | Lopeppeppy | It's the 21st century. Life is not lived in your backyard anymore, there's an online community as vital and important as the one that used to play checkers with Neehi caps at the corner store. |
| 18:28.43 | |Jelly| | < |
| 18:28.45 | |Jelly| | 3 |
| 18:28.46 | |Jelly| | 3 |
| 18:28.48 | |Jelly| | 3 |
| 18:28.50 | |Jelly| | 3 |
| 18:28.55 | zenzelezz | ffs |
| 18:29.14 | Lopeppeppy | Disagree, zenzelezz? |
| 18:29.23 | zenzelezz | we yell at the new people for spamming over so many lines, and then Jelly goes and does the same |
| 18:29.42 | Lopeppeppy | Oh. Spank at your leisure. |
| 18:30.20 | N00bZXI | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=174830214&postId=1745061196&sid=1#30 |
| 18:30.32 | Yinxie | lol |
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| 18:31.39 | |Jelly| | Well Z. You can do a couple things. 1. http://img215.imageshack.us/img215/7060/0608pariscarcryinfbx3.jpg 2. Get over it, knowing that it's nothing that I do regularly. 3. See #1 except while I'm gone. |
| 18:31.54 | Yinxie | legendary thread :_ |
| 18:35.12 | Yinxie | guys i got an offtopic lua question |
| 18:36.00 | Lopeppeppy | Give it a shot, see what comes out of it. |
| 18:36.18 | Yinxie | http://wowi.pastey.net/70540 |
| 18:37.22 | Yinxie | ive made a button in a form, and i want to put text after it, but when i just type in that i want in the frame:setFontString() it doesnt show |
| 18:37.34 | Yinxie | any idea what i should put there so my text shows? |
| 18:38.42 | Kaso | setFontString is for attaching a whole new fontstring object to the button |
| 18:38.57 | Yinxie | ye so i get a line of tekst behind it right? |
| 18:39.17 | Kaso | Button:GetFontString():SetText("whatever") |
| 18:39.24 | Yinxie | ah okey |
| 18:39.43 | Yinxie | thnx Kaso |
| 18:42.13 | Kaso | you can also just do Button:SetText() |
| 18:42.29 | Kaso | the above is just a more formal declartion of the same thing |
| 18:42.39 | Yinxie | Button:GetFontString():SetText("whatever") didnt work anyway, the rest of the form dissapeared into the void |
| 18:43.16 | Yinxie | ill try Button:SetText("disable") now |
| 18:43.51 | Yinxie | want me to make a screenshot? |
| 18:44.27 | Yinxie | didnt work either btw |
| 18:44.39 | Kaso | hang on |
| 18:44.45 | Yinxie | will do |
| 18:44.53 | Kaso | I see, youve got a checkbutton, and you want a label beside it? |
| 18:44.59 | Yinxie | ye :) |
| 18:45.19 | Kaso | Then all you need to do is FontString:SetText() |
| 18:45.22 | Yinxie | im gonna use the setscript part to bind an action to it but havent done that yet |
| 18:45.24 | Kaso | sorry i didnt look at your code before |
| 18:45.48 | Kaso | Also, on lines 2 and 12, you should declare those variables local rather than global as they are at the moment |
| 18:46.38 | Yinxie | uhm |
| 18:46.59 | Yinxie | not sure what u mean there |
| 18:47.38 | Kaso | frame = CreateFrame(....... |
| 18:47.52 | Lopeppeppy | Catch y'all later, stay good! |
| 18:47.52 | Yinxie | ye but.. want me to make them localframe = ? |
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| 18:48.06 | Kaso | local frame = CreateFrame(.... |
| 18:48.21 | Yinxie | soz kaso bit a noob at lua here :P |
| 18:48.24 | Yinxie | thnx anyway |
| 18:49.48 | Yinxie | hm 2nd problem then, it places the button and text behind a bar (you know one of those with a button on it that you can drag left and right) |
| 18:50.01 | Yinxie | and the rest of the buttons i got in that code dissapears |
| 18:50.25 | Yinxie | any way to make that button go 2 lines lower? |
| 18:50.59 | Kaso | cant say that description is makes much sense to me :< |
| 18:51.06 | Yinxie | lol |
| 18:51.09 | Kaso | but you change the postion of objects with SetPoint |
| 18:51.20 | Yinxie | ah okey i got that part now |
| 18:51.27 | Yinxie | but it totally dissapeared now :S |
| 18:51.53 | Yinxie | ill make 2 screenies for ya |
| 18:52.22 | Yinxie | stupid thing is, i can see the buttons just not the text |
| 18:57.15 | Yinxie | okey here is the new code: http://wowi.pastey.net/70543 |
| 18:57.54 | Yinxie | http://mryinx.pwnedyou.org/images/first no code inserted.jpg |
| 18:58.03 | Yinxie | grr hold on |
| 18:59.03 | Yinxie | pictures are http://mryinx.pwnedyou.org/images/firstnocodeinserted.jpg and http://mryinx.pwnedyou.org/images/withcode.jpg |
| 18:59.23 | TS|Skrom | four oh four |
| 19:00.02 | Yinxie | okey they should work now lol |
| 19:00.58 | Kaso | So, the difference between with and without is simply the code on the pastey, nothing else? |
| 19:01.03 | Yinxie | yes |
| 19:01.23 | Yinxie | i put that code in and all the other shit that was on that page dissappeared and this happened |
| 19:01.28 | Yinxie | cant see no text either |
| 19:01.54 | Kaso | Sure there isnt a frame already called NecrosisShowTooltip ? |
| 19:02.22 | Yinxie | ow crap |
| 19:02.37 | afk|n00bzxi | dota |
| 19:02.38 | TS|Skrom | Kaso shoots, he scores! |
| 19:02.41 | Yinxie | totally missed that one lol |
| 19:03.07 | Yinxie | right there is one already |
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| 19:03.15 | Yinxie | now what do i replace that one with? |
| 19:03.22 | TS|Skrom | whatever you want your new one to be called |
| 19:03.24 | Kaso | just name your frame whatever you want |
| 19:03.26 | TS|Skrom | call it "sally" |
| 19:03.30 | Yinxie | okey |
| 19:03.42 | Kaso | NecrosisDisableSphereCheckButton |
| 19:03.44 | Yinxie | NecrosisHideSpell ill make it |
| 19:03.50 | Kaso | something like that |
| 19:03.56 | TS|Skrom | NecrosisMyToeIsBlack |
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| 19:04.34 | Yinxie | :p |
| 19:05.24 | Yinxie | http://wowi.pastey.net/70545 now |
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| 19:06.11 | Yinxie | lets see if that works |
| 19:06.27 | Yinxie | hm |
| 19:06.39 | Yinxie | same error as http://mryinx.pwnedyou.org/images/withcode.jpg |
| 19:07.45 | Yinxie | just that draw-bar thing and the empty button |
| 19:07.56 | TS|Skrom | are you getting any errors/ |
| 19:08.03 | TS|Skrom | do you have errors turned on from the interface options? |
| 19:08.36 | Yinxie | lol i get an error ye |
| 19:09.13 | TS|Skrom | that'd prolly be important when trying to debug a problem ^^ |
| 19:09.29 | Yinxie | "Interface/addons/necrosis/xml/options-sphere.lua:87:Usage:NecrosisSpell:SetFontString(Fontstring) |
| 19:10.12 | TS|Skrom | what's on line 87 of options-sphere.lua |
| 19:10.19 | Kaso | remove line 16 of the pastey |
| 19:10.36 | TS|Skrom | Kaso you eagle eye you |
| 19:11.02 | Yinxie | keep 18 in? |
| 19:11.54 | Kaso | yes |
| 19:12.46 | Yinxie | wooot D:D:D |
| 19:13.44 | Yinxie | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:15.01 | Yinxie | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:15.12 | Yinxie | so it works |
| 19:15.25 | Yinxie | now i just have to drop it a line or 2 with that spot thing |
| 19:15.38 | TS|Skrom | what's it supposed to do? |
| 19:16.24 | Yinxie | im gonna attach code to it (with that code on line 10) so ppl can disable the spell when they press that purple button |
| 19:16.40 | TS|Skrom | tired of accidently lifetapping yourself? |
| 19:16.50 | Yinxie | nah you can change it to demon armor |
| 19:17.09 | Yinxie | but as you can see on http://wow-en.curse-gaming.com/downloads/details/8415/ i made myself the new author of it ;_ |
| 19:17.11 | Yinxie | ;) |
| 19:17.27 | TS|Skrom | why do you want to disable the button? |
| 19:18.40 | Yinxie | someone asked it :P |
| 19:18.45 | TS|Skrom | ahh |
| 19:18.59 | Yinxie | and since i didnt build it from scratch i needed to learn how this addon works anyway |
| 19:19.04 | Yinxie | good practice :) |
| 19:20.03 | Yinxie | btw you know the addon?\ |
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| 19:20.34 | TS|Skrom | yep |
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| 19:21.31 | Yinxie | :) |
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| 19:22.31 | Yinxie | then let me ask this, what skin did you use? |
| 19:22.51 | TS|Skrom | purple |
| 19:23.20 | Yinxie | k |
| 19:23.41 | Yinxie | i have disabled all other colors atm rofl :P but ill put them back as soon as i got it rolling |
| 19:23.55 | Yinxie | using blue atm :) |
| 19:24.08 | TS|Skrom | that's fine, I don't plan to download it again til it breaks from a patch :) |
| 19:24.17 | TS|Skrom | it's got everything I need as it is |
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| 19:25.11 | Yinxie | :) |
| 19:25.46 | Yinxie | ill let ya know when i got my stuff done, i'd be happy to have u as experienced lua coder as one of my testers |
| 19:25.56 | TS|Skrom | >.> |
| 19:25.57 | TS|Skrom | <.< |
| 19:26.12 | Josh_Borke | i hope you weren't talking about TS|Skrom |
| 19:26.16 | TS|Skrom | so do I |
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| 19:26.28 | Yinxie | rofl |
| 19:26.39 | Yinxie | well u know the addon so :P |
| 19:26.45 | Yinxie | give a shit if you cant code ; |
| 19:26.46 | Valaron|Work | Too busy playing WoW to learn out to code properly. |
| 19:26.47 | Yinxie | ;) |
| 19:26.55 | Valaron|Work | s/out/how |
| 19:27.03 | TS|Skrom | wait a sec |
| 19:27.08 | TS|Skrom | did Josh_Borke just burn me? |
| 19:27.18 | Josh_Borke | yes |
| 19:27.21 | TS|Skrom | :O |
| 19:27.26 | TS|Skrom | what'd I ever do to you ? :'( |
| 19:27.34 | Josh_Borke | wouldn't you like to know |
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| 19:28.31 | Yinxie | lol |
| 19:28.35 | Yinxie | tell us josh |
| 19:30.04 | Cide | he was born.... no wait, that was his parents' fault |
| 19:30.45 | Yinxie | haha |
| 19:30.58 | Maldivia | can I get someone to bump a US UI forum post for me ? |
| 19:31.30 | Yinxie | lol |
| 19:31.51 | TS|Skrom | I would, but apparently my being born is offensive I'd hate to get banned :D |
| 19:32.03 | Josh_Borke | ;-P |
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| 19:39.12 | Yinxie | kaso u up for some more coding? |
| 19:39.52 | TS|Skrom | I can prolly save you alot of time by asking what the error message says now XD |
| 19:40.09 | Kaso | hehe |
| 19:40.13 | Yinxie | check http://wowi.pastey.net/70547 |
| 19:41.10 | Yinxie | but the error i get is "options-sphere.lua:216: attempt to index a global 'necrosishidespell' |
| 19:41.35 | TS|Skrom | check spelling and capitalization |
| 19:41.48 | zenzelezz | case sensitivity |
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| 19:41.58 | Josh_Borke | make sure that the frame has been created |
| 19:42.03 | Kaso | yes, what he said. |
| 19:42.07 | Yinxie | nah the error has capitals ;) just left them out here |
| 19:42.13 | Yinxie | uhm which frame> |
| 19:42.19 | Josh_Borke | NecrosisHideSpell |
| 19:42.22 | TS|Skrom | the frame you are calling |
| 19:43.01 | Yinxie | i created that frame on line 3 |
| 19:43.01 | Josh_Borke | yes, but is that block of code called? |
| 19:43.01 | Josh_Borke | without the full file i cannot say |
| 19:43.07 | Yinxie | uhm |
| 19:43.24 | Yinxie | 302 lines.. want me to pastey it? |
| 19:43.29 | Josh_Borke | i don't mind |
| 19:43.34 | Yinxie | k |
| 19:44.22 | Yinxie | http://wowi.pastey.net/70548 |
| 19:44.38 | Yinxie | my coding started on line 72 |
| 19:44.55 | Yinxie | and the error is on 216 |
| 19:45.06 | Josh_Borke | Yinxie: line 216 is not part of any function. it gets called when the file is loaded |
| 19:45.26 | TS|Skrom | Josh_Borke ftw |
| 19:45.28 | Josh_Borke | ie, NecrosisHideSpell has not been defined yet |
| 19:45.33 | Yinxie | so |
| 19:45.59 | Yinxie | well |
| 19:46.58 | Yinxie | the problem is this, i want that if they mark the button (line 72-89), that necrosishidespell gets checked |
| 19:47.21 | TS|Skrom | well unfortuneately what you have doesn't do that |
| 19:47.21 | Josh_Borke | so you need to look into script handlers for that frame |
| 19:47.29 | Yinxie | and in another file, if the button is checked, it has to disable the definition of the spell on the main button lol |
| 19:47.36 | Yinxie | right |
| 19:48.06 | TS|Skrom | what you have has no tie at all to your button you just made |
| 19:48.12 | Josh_Borke | something like frame:SetScript("OnClick", stuff here) |
| 19:48.22 | TS|Skrom | it's like clicking on a button in toronto and hoping a door will open in miami |
| 19:48.37 | Yinxie | borke check line 81 |
| 19:48.49 | Yinxie | there i have the setscript |
| 19:48.53 | Yinxie | is that enough then? |
| 19:49.29 | TS|Skrom | what are the two states of checked? nil and checked? |
| 19:49.36 | Josh_Borke | all that does is set NecrosisConfig.NecrosisSphere to be the result of the checkbutton |
| 19:49.48 | Yinxie | hm |
| 19:49.57 | TS|Skrom | which actually would work for his purpose josh |
| 19:50.13 | TS|Skrom | he WANTS NecrosisConfig.NecrosisSphere to either be true or nil |
| 19:50.24 | TS|Skrom | so as long as checked is either nil or checked he'd have what he wants |
| 19:50.54 | Yinxie | yes |
| 19:51.00 | TS|Skrom | definately need to remove the outside function call though |
| 19:51.03 | Yinxie | ok |
| 19:51.13 | Yinxie | ill remove line 216 then :P |
| 19:51.19 | TS|Skrom | Josh_Borke is right, you are calling a function on a frame that doesn't exist yet |
| 19:51.41 | Yinxie | ok |
| 19:52.09 | Yinxie | hm ok |
| 19:52.11 | Yinxie | no error now |
| 19:53.15 | Yinxie | anyway then again if i check the button nothing happens |
| 19:53.28 | Josh_Borke | so he should move the line 216 inside the frame creation function |
| 19:53.51 | Yinxie | well the whole point of that line on 216 was for http://wowi.pastey.net/70551 |
| 19:54.07 | Josh_Borke | then put it in there |
| 19:54.14 | TS|Skrom | all that would do is set the disabled box checked on every reload |
| 19:54.43 | TS|Skrom | or unchecked based on the config options |
| 19:54.55 | TS|Skrom | that's not actually going to perform any onclick operators |
| 19:55.00 | Yinxie | hmn |
| 19:55.16 | Yinxie | well u guys are the experts here |
| 19:55.23 | TS|Skrom | I would put that in the section where all the other stored variables are loaded |
| 19:55.45 | Yinxie | ok |
| 19:56.13 | Yinxie | just FYI, it was supposed that if its checked, then (pasting some code here now if you dont mind) |
| 19:56.14 | TS|Skrom | oh nm after looking at it again, that would be the correct place, my bad Josh_Borke I was expecting a seperate on event function but didn't look at the whole file |
| 19:56.14 | Yinxie | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:56.14 | Yinxie | 7 return |
| 19:56.15 | Yinxie | 8 end |
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| 19:56.41 | Yinxie | see what i mean? |
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| 19:58.00 | TS|Skrom | I know that I see it is time to go home >< |
| 19:58.11 | Yinxie | rofl :P |
| 19:58.18 | Josh_Borke | if NecrosisConfig.NecrosisSphere then return end says: if the key in NecrosisConfig name NecrosisSphere is not nil or not false, then jump out of this function |
| 19:58.38 | TS|Skrom | checked would be not nil and not false |
| 19:59.18 | TS|Skrom | Yinxie when you say "it didn't work" do you mean you checked disable and it still casts? |
| 20:00.09 | Yinxie | well |
| 20:00.25 | Yinxie | i checked the button and it still casts |
| 20:01.00 | Yinxie | ive now moved "NecrosisHideSpell:SetChecked(NecrosisConfig.NecrosisSphere) " into the frame creation function.. dunno what that will do though |
| 20:02.01 | Yinxie | okey i just moved it into the function |
| 20:02.10 | Yinxie | and it still casts when checked |
| 20:02.24 | TS|Skrom | do this |
| 20:02.37 | TS|Skrom | type /run NecrosisConfig.NecrosisSphere = "Sally" |
| 20:02.49 | Yinxie | uhm when im in wow? |
| 20:02.52 | TS|Skrom | yep |
| 20:02.53 | Yinxie | or where? |
| 20:03.27 | Yinxie | just did |
| 20:03.31 | TS|Skrom | does it still cast? |
| 20:03.45 | Yinxie | yes |
| 20:03.55 | TS|Skrom | then the problem probably isn't with your button |
| 20:04.12 | TS|Skrom | you just made 10 if NecrosisConfig.NecrosisSphere then01 evalue true |
| 20:04.25 | Yinxie | hm |
| 20:04.46 | Yinxie | so the if on line 6 from http://wowi.pastey.net/70551 doesnt work? |
| 20:05.00 | TS|Skrom | stick some output in there |
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| 20:05.16 | TS|Skrom | before the return do a DEFAULT_CHAT_FRAME:AddMessage("Testing my if lalala") |
| 20:05.54 | Yinxie | so its gonna be if necrosis blabla... then default chat blabla.. return? |
| 20:06.03 | TS|Skrom | yep |
| 20:06.25 | TS|Skrom | if the if works you'll get spam in your chat box |
| 20:06.31 | TS|Skrom | if not... well something else is up |
| 20:06.41 | Yinxie | k |
| 20:06.48 | Yinxie | just put it in |
| 20:06.57 | Yinxie | run the /run NecrosisConfig.NecrosisSphere = "Sally" command again? |
| 20:07.02 | TS|Skrom | yeah |
| 20:07.26 | TS|Skrom | after you reload of course :D |
| 20:07.33 | Yinxie | ofc ;) |
| 20:08.00 | Yinxie | right |
| 20:08.20 | Yinxie | doesnt do shit |
| 20:08.50 | Yinxie | at least i dont get the chat |
| 20:09.37 | Yinxie | so my if isnt working |
| 20:10.36 | Yinxie | anway skrom i gotta do some guild arena runs |
| 20:10.43 | Yinxie | thnx for helping me so far |
| 20:10.46 | TS|Skrom | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:10.50 | TS|Skrom | see if it returns sally |
| 20:10.51 | TS|Skrom | later |
| 20:11.02 | Yinxie | ill be staying here, but ill do that later ok? |
| 20:11.08 | Yinxie | give you a break too |
| 20:11.14 | TS|Skrom | time to go home ^^ |
| 20:11.25 | Yinxie | its ok ;) see ya later them |
| 20:11.28 | Yinxie | them |
| 20:11.35 | Yinxie | grr.. then* |
| 20:12.04 | Yinxie | skrom: ur US? |
| 20:12.37 | TS|Skrom | yep |
| 20:13.12 | Yinxie | good :P |
| 20:13.16 | Yinxie | im EU :) |
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| 20:13.54 | TS|Skrom | and I'm out! later all |
| 20:14.24 | Yinxie | poo too later |
| 20:14.27 | Yinxie | later skrom |
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| 21:17.05 | foxlit | Hm, arena team indices fell out of sync with honor tab display |
| 21:18.21 | foxlit | Worse yet, they're incoherent in the details tab |
| 21:18.38 | foxlit | Get the name of one team in the header, get the rooster from a completely different one |
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| 21:25.09 | Guillotine | eh, how do I duplicate the functionality of EnableMouse now that its protected? |
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| 21:29.21 | cog|work | Leave it enabled |
| 21:29.29 | Guillotine | its enabled by default? |
| 21:29.45 | cog|work | it's not fully protected, you just can't use it in combat |
| 21:29.55 | Guillotine | ah, ok |
| 21:30.02 | cog|work | i don't think any widget apis are protected |
| 21:30.07 | cog|work | in that sense |
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| 21:54.01 | sag_ich_nicht | Guillotine! |
| 21:54.08 | sag_ich_nicht | make it work on /say! |
| 21:54.08 | Guillotine | moo? |
| 21:54.17 | Guillotine | >.> working on another addon |
| 21:54.25 | Guillotine | is it really that important? |
| 21:54.29 | sag_ich_nicht | ...no |
| 21:54.32 | sag_ich_nicht | but i like to annoy you about it |
| 21:54.33 | sag_ich_nicht | <3 |
| 21:54.38 | Guillotine | meh, I'll just fix it up |
| 21:54.45 | Guillotine | though I'm still planning on doing a rewrite |
| 21:56.05 | sag_ich_nicht | good. |
| 21:56.32 | Guillotine | is there anything besides Say and Yell where its missing? |
| 21:56.46 | Guillotine | don't think I plan on having it in emotes |
| 22:00.14 | sag_ich_nicht | i don't think it should be in emotes |
| 22:04.02 | Guillotine | fixed |
| 22:04.04 | Guillotine | go crazy :P |
| 22:04.12 | Guillotine | up on curse and cosmos, submitting to WoWI right now |
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| 22:08.37 | Ktron | Holy crap this channel has gotten bigger |
| 22:10.19 | Kirkburn | hullo |
| 22:12.26 | Ktron | Just curious, for the people who run WoW in *nux, wine or qemu or? |
| 22:12.48 | cog|work | WoW runs great in Wine |
| 22:12.58 | Ktron | I |
| 22:13.00 | Valaron|Work | WoW runs great while drinking wine. |
| 22:13.11 | cog|work | Valaron|Work: both, imo :P |
| 22:13.19 | Ktron | I've gotten WoW running in wine, just curious to whether qemu get used much |
| 22:13.29 | Ktron | or cedega or any of those nonsenses |
| 22:13.57 | voglster | <3 cladhaire |
| 22:13.59 | Ktron | Valaron|Work, /agree |
| 22:14.22 | Ktron | Valaron|Work, though hopefully your wine tastes better than what I have... |
| 22:14.26 | cog|work | Ktron: cedega is pretty much wine with a bunch of custom DLLs |
| 22:14.31 | cog|work | and a launcher |
| 22:14.42 | Ktron | yeah |
| 22:14.44 | cog|work | qemu would be silly |
| 22:14.52 | Ktron | I was just curious in a 'poll' |
| 22:14.57 | Valaron|Work | I have a $50 bottle of 2003 Conn Creek Anthology I bought two weekends ago. |
| 22:14.58 | Ktron | sense... I wouldn't pay money for it ;) |
| 22:15.04 | cog|work | Except you haven't really given any options :P |
| 22:15.06 | Valaron|Work | while in Napa. |
| 22:15.39 | cog|work | Valaron|Work: what varietal? |
| 22:15.39 | Ktron | I thought qemu or kqemu generally went faster than wine would |
| 22:15.44 | cog|work | O.o |
| 22:15.54 | Valaron|Work | Hmm... Can't remember offhand. |
| 22:16.16 | Valaron|Work | http://conncreek.com/anthology.cfm |
| 22:17.12 | cog|work | Ktron: qemu isn't even the same idea as wine... it's an entire PC emulator (or virtualizer with kqemu) |
| 22:17.38 | cog|work | and it doesn't emulate 3d graphics afaik... |
| 22:17.49 | cog|work | at least not to the level any modern games would require |
| 22:17.51 | Ktron | I thought qemu could run in a application layer mode |
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| 22:18.02 | Ktron | but, clearly, qemu is not the right idea then :) |
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| 22:22.15 | Valaron|Work | That wine is yum. |
| 22:22.23 | Valaron|Work | Well worth the $50. |
| 22:22.42 | cog|work | I work here: http://www.kistlerwine.com/ |
| 22:24.55 | Valaron|Work | Don't you work in Santa Clara? San Ramon? San something. |
| 22:25.17 | cog|work | Used to live in Santa Rosa |
| 22:25.33 | Guillotine | fyi, its probably not a good idea to run "for i in pairs(getfenv()) do Combine:PrintLiteral(i) end" >.> Though it works. which is pretty cool |
| 22:25.48 | cog|work | SR is about 4 miles from the vineyard |
| 22:26.10 | Valaron|Work | Ahhh |
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| 22:32.55 | sag_ich_nicht | [00:04] <Guillotine> go crazy :P <-- /cheer |
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| 22:44.50 | Valaron|Work | Hmm |
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| 22:49.27 | cog|work | well, this is atypical... |
| 22:49.27 | Kirkburn | What on earth is going on |
| 22:49.35 | Kirkburn | It's like every channel just died :( |
| 22:49.44 | cog|work | it's *like* a netsplit but not quite... |
| 22:50.22 | Kirkburn | I got disconnected just before |
| 22:50.37 | cog|work | so did about 20 other people, it would appear... |
| 22:50.44 | cog|work | in two phases |
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| 22:58.01 | Guillotine | calvino seems to be having problems. its the same server I was on yesterday and got split into my own channel :/ Had to reconnect |
| 22:58.15 | Guillotine | awwww. THEY're all back |
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| 23:18.10 | Thunder_Child | Guillotine, twin wants to know if your doing anything tonight |
| 23:18.31 | Guillotine | nothing we can do. unless they want to do animal bosses |
| 23:18.41 | Guillotine | or we could raid AB |
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| 23:19.08 | Thunder_Child | well you can try nightbane |
| 23:23.54 | Guillotine | noone in our group can summon him |
| 23:24.12 | Thunder_Child | o |
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