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| 00:12.11 | Shirik | my party is competing over who can kill the most rats |
| 00:13.15 | ScytheBlade1 | lol yes |
| 00:13.23 | ScytheBlade1 | I wondered if that thread ever went anywhere |
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| 01:39.16 | vulture_ | what file is ITEM_QUALITY_COLORS defined? please thanks |
| 01:46.45 | vulture_ | I get it thanks |
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| 02:20.45 | MentalPower | vulture_: ITEM_QUALITY_COLORS has been deprecated for a while now. Use http://www.wowwiki.com/API_GetItemQualityColor instead |
| 02:21.00 | vulture_ | I care not of deprecation! |
| 02:23.05 | Mr_Rabies2 | dammit |
| 02:23.11 | Mr_Rabies2 | my baggins settings got lost |
| 02:23.13 | Mr_Rabies2 | >:[ |
| 02:24.31 | Nargiddley | any idea what caused it ? |
| 02:24.51 | Mr_Rabies2 | probably updating it |
| 02:25.02 | Mr_Rabies2 | pitbull does it from time to time too |
| 02:25.10 | Nargiddley | nothing i've done should have caused settings to die :/ |
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| 02:25.52 | Mr_Rabies2 | it was working fine yesterday, then today i go in and all i see is All in one, with the default skin |
| 02:26.59 | Nargiddley | all in one isnt even the default :/ thats really weird |
| 02:28.29 | Mr_Rabies2 | i dunno, but i can always spend another hour or so setting it up :P |
| 02:28.44 | Mr_Rabies2 | it happens to pitbull fairly commonly because it massively changes from time to time |
| 02:28.57 | Mr_Rabies2 | he reworks how things are stored and stuff i guess |
| 02:29.01 | Mr_Rabies2 | so i'm kinda used to it |
| 02:29.11 | Nargiddley | check if its just had the profile switched |
| 02:29.44 | Nargiddley | not the built in ones, the acedb profile at the bottom of the options |
| 02:31.07 | Mr_Rabies2 | nah, still default |
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| 02:39.50 | Corrodias | what sort of thing does bagginwhatever do? |
| 02:40.56 | Nargiddley | Virtual Bags |
| 02:41.45 | Corrodias | i'd like to recommend TBag! but maybe you've seen it. |
| 02:42.01 | Nargiddley | well i wrote Baggins, so its exacly what i want :P |
| 02:42.06 | Mr_Rabies2 | baggins is awesome |
| 02:42.13 | Mr_Rabies2 | except it tends to eat resources |
| 02:42.16 | Mr_Rabies2 | but it's worth it |
| 02:42.26 | Mr_Rabies2 | it makes sense, though, especially with a bunch of usables |
| 02:42.50 | Nargiddley | last day or so of updates got the 2 biggest complaints i've had about it as well |
| 02:42.59 | Nargiddley | items dont jump when selling now |
| 02:43.12 | Nargiddley | and compressed stacks are slightly smarter |
| 02:44.30 | Nargiddley | you interact with the slots that arent locked, so trading multiple things is possible from the one button :D |
| 02:44.30 | Corrodias | i see no baggins on wowinterface :/ |
| 02:44.48 | Nargiddley | its on files.wowace.com |
| 02:45.11 | Mr_Rabies2 | i think it's still in betaish mode, right? |
| 02:45.17 | Nargiddley | yeah |
| 02:45.17 | Corrodias | hm. well, good luck with that. |
| 02:45.27 | Mr_Rabies2 | it's really enjoyable |
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| 02:45.40 | Mr_Rabies2 | i love addons that take an hour to config, but once they're put together, they're awesome |
| 02:46.02 | Nargiddley | gotta get the setup a bit more polished, but then i'll probably release it properly |
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| 03:03.55 | Mr_Rabies2 | oh yeah i remember one more thing about baggins, i don't know if this is your issue or not |
| 03:04.24 | Mr_Rabies2 | but equippable is "no" with, for example, the heavy clefthoof stuff, even though i can equip it |
| 03:04.31 | Mr_Rabies2 | because i don't have leatherworking |
| 03:04.53 | Mr_Rabies2 | it's equippable, i just can't get the leatherworking set bonus |
| 03:04.56 | Corrodias | interesting. it seems that search engine robots may be indexing my personal web server. :P |
| 03:06.46 | Mr_Rabies2 | i'll index your personal face with my search engine fist |
| 03:07.13 | Corrodias | there's either something wrong with my Cartographer or something wrong with the database i'm using... maybe i've modified something i shouldn't have |
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| 03:08.12 | Corrodias | i'm not seeing all the mithril ore nodes i should |
| 03:09.15 | Corrodias | it's something wrong with the database. it doesn't contain enough. >:o |
| 03:10.07 | Corrodias | maybe the wowhead ripper this guy used attempted to delete overlapping nodes. there's Gold Ore all over the hinterlands map where mithril would be found. |
| 03:13.59 | Corrodias | and yet, cartographer does NOT put a mithril ore node on my map when i mine mithril here. maybe it's because there was already a gold ore node there? |
| 03:15.32 | Mr_Rabies2 | there may be some type of threshold on it or something |
| 03:15.41 | Mr_Rabies2 | i'm talking out of my ass so i can't tell ya |
| 03:16.02 | Corrodias | seems to be the case |
| 03:16.23 | Corrodias | it won't put in "duplicate nodes". so the program of the guy who made this DB rip just chose poorly which nodes to discard |
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| 03:22.26 | Darklin | Question: Anyone seen Tuller recently? |
| 03:23.42 | Corrodias | ~seen tuller |
| 03:23.52 | purl | tuller <n=chatzill@c-76-27-166-119.hsd1.va.comcast.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 3d 6h 35m 26s ago, saying: 'its evil :P'. |
| 03:23.52 | Corrodias | i'm out of ideas |
| 03:24.46 | Gnarfoz | ~seen Gello |
| 03:24.47 | purl | gello <n=chatzill@hmpdmehed51-pool3-a127.hmpdme.tds.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowi-lounge, 216d 21h 25m 12s ago, saying: 'if you do <PushedTexture file="same file"><TexCoords left=".1" right=".9" top=".1" bottom=".9"/></PushedTexture> then it will look like it "pushes" without needing new artwork'. |
| 03:25.08 | Gnarfoz | hrm, where did he disappear to, anyway |
| 03:25.45 | Darklin | I'm trying to fix Bongos so that it will update the paging bar when I switch to and from Prowling |
| 03:25.53 | Darklin | As it stands, it's no working. |
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| 04:40.58 | Garoun | Video Games Live concert was fun :) |
| 04:41.25 | Garoun | amazing how many older people were there, and depressing watching some 10yr old disgrace Space Invaders on stage :( |
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| 05:16.12 | Mr_Rabies2 | garoun, was it like... on tv or anything? :x |
| 05:16.19 | Mr_Rabies2 | because i'd love to have seen it |
| 05:21.07 | Garoun|Loupana | it was at the Kennedy Center in DC, but no tv coverage :( |
| 05:40.20 | batrick | is it possible to have one secure button do two different spells on two different units depending on how it is clicked? |
| 05:41.30 | pakoz | Anyone know of a mod that sorts debuffs on an enemy, basically i want to see sunderarmor/coe/cos/coweakness on the fly |
| 05:46.41 | Nerinia | batrick: Yup, just add the button number to the attribute name http://wowi.pastey.net/70134 |
| 05:47.34 | batrick | thank you very much |
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| 06:03.19 | pakoz2 | anyone use Nraidtracker? |
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| 06:52.58 | Mr_Rabies2 | man |
| 06:53.02 | Mr_Rabies2 | my guild is freakin old |
| 06:53.08 | Mr_Rabies2 | i forgot to do a /ginfo when i joined |
| 06:53.16 | Mr_Rabies2 | just did one |
| 06:53.29 | Mr_Rabies2 | Created: 12-15-2004 |
| 06:53.43 | Mr_Rabies2 | that's like |
| 06:53.54 | Mr_Rabies2 | a few days after the server opened |
| 06:53.57 | Mr_Rabies2 | less than two weeks |
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| 07:13.44 | ckknight | MentalPower|zzZZ: kinda funny the things we learn even though the game's been out for so long |
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| 08:23.11 | batrick | how would you guys go about making a button open up another frame on left click, but do some secure things with different clicks e.g. shift+leftclick |
| 08:23.23 | batrick | i've only been able to do one or thee other |
| 08:24.13 | ckknight | secure frames make baby jesus cry |
| 08:24.41 | Wobin | It's true =\ |
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| 08:25.05 | batrick | they make me cry in frustration : ( |
| 08:25.14 | Wobin | Secureframes are the work of the devil |
| 08:25.22 | Wobin | where devil == Iriel/Tem/et al |
| 08:25.38 | ckknight | yea |
| 08:28.58 | batrick | so i guess no one knows qq |
| 08:29.39 | Wobin | Iriel might! =) |
| 08:30.33 | ckknight | yea, iriel probably would |
| 08:30.50 | ckknight | my main issue with secure frames is that it's too unintuitive, too unlike other programming |
| 08:31.51 | ckknight | and yes, I know it's all Turing machines... |
| 08:31.54 | ckknight | still a bitch |
| 08:34.41 | ckknight | or actually... |
| 08:34.59 | ckknight | wouldn't secure frames be context-free automata and not turing machines? |
| 08:36.14 | N00bZXI | Doing actionbars manually with CastSpellByName would be just as complicated |
| 08:36.16 | N00bZXI | as secure frames |
| 08:36.24 | Nerinia | batrick: That sounds like the SecureUnitButton with the UnitPopup menu. http://wowi.pastey.net/70135 |
| 08:36.26 | ckknight | no, no it wouldn't |
| 08:36.29 | ckknight | cause at least it'd be lua |
| 08:37.24 | N00bZXI | It would, but I'm about equally clueless as to how to do both |
| 08:38.37 | batrick | ya i'm trying to mess with it but I think it's not opening the menu :s |
| 08:40.04 | N00bZXI | Perhaps make it click something else, and have the other button's OnClick open the menu? |
| 08:40.37 | batrick | ya maybe |
| 08:40.43 | batrick | that's something i'd want to avoid |
| 08:40.45 | batrick | :S |
| 08:41.21 | batrick | so x:SetAttribute("type1", "menu") is for all left clicks right? |
| 08:42.09 | nevcairiel | cant you do some type=macro and put some /script in the macro? |
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| 08:42.54 | batrick | that's circumventing the problem... in a very inefficient way :S |
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| 08:43.57 | batrick | i'll work on it in the morning /sigh |
| 08:43.59 | nevcairiel | you could also try the custom action thing |
| 08:44.05 | nevcairiel | which isnt really documented :P |
| 08:44.34 | batrick | the sad thing is i'm doing all this ooc |
| 08:44.43 | batrick | so annoying :S |
| 08:45.21 | nevcairiel | you could set type to "myaction" and create a function on the button like button.myaction(self, unit, button) |
| 08:45.29 | nevcairiel | in theory thats what the handler should call it with |
| 08:45.33 | nevcairiel | when i understand the code right :P |
| 08:46.20 | nevcairiel | (myaction being any word thats not a normal action) |
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| 10:50.19 | sag_ich_nicht | http://atlasmod.com/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=952 kek |
| 10:53.48 | Corrodias | wait, what |
| 10:54.14 | Corrodias | what was i coming back on here to do... oh ye |
| 10:56.10 | Corrodias | i just can't decide which ravager i want my little hunter alt to have |
| 10:58.09 | Corrodias | regular or extra spikey? what sort of color? argh! |
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| 12:05.38 | TC-Holding | LUA |
| 12:05.42 | TC-Holding | >< |
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| 13:56.43 | krka | ok... so how do i use dongle? |
| 13:56.46 | krka | cant find any docs |
| 13:57.32 | Srosh | tried http://www.wowwiki.com/Dongle ? |
| 13:57.43 | JoshBorke | krka R n00b |
| 13:57.49 | Srosh | oh, and there's a channel on this server too: #dongle :P |
| 13:57.59 | JoshBorke | i can help if needed |
| 13:58.20 | clad|away | as can i |
| 13:58.26 | JoshBorke | you cannot. you're not here |
| 13:58.28 | clad|away | the irc channel should help a bit =) |
| 13:58.31 | clad|away | damn.. fine then |
| 13:58.37 | krka | oic |
| 13:58.44 | krka | i just want to use astrolabe in my addon |
| 13:58.45 | krka | that's it |
| 13:58.55 | clad|away | then you don't need to know anything about Dongle |
| 13:58.59 | clad|away | =) |
| 13:59.11 | krka | local AstroLabe = DongleStub("Astrolabe-0.4") |
| 13:59.13 | JoshBorke | then why are you asking about dongle? o.O |
| 13:59.15 | krka | apparently that's wrong? |
| 13:59.20 | krka | because it uses dongle |
| 13:59.25 | JoshBorke | that looks fine to me |
| 13:59.26 | clad|away | nope, it uses DongleStub |
| 13:59.31 | clad|away | which is entirely different =) |
| 13:59.33 | krka | oh |
| 13:59.40 | krka | doesnt _sound_ entirely different |
| 13:59.40 | clad|away | and that's all you need to do at the top, what you just put |
| 14:00.00 | clad|away | DongleStub is simply a stub that handles versioning |
| 14:00.35 | clad|away | its PD code, and while dongle uses it for its versioning, has no other ties to the framework |
| 14:01.45 | krka | i see |
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| 14:03.11 | clad|away | sorry for any confusion |
| 14:03.20 | clad|away | I need to fully document DongleStub, perhaps I can do that today or tomorrow |
| 14:03.31 | clad|away | for people who want to version their libraries with it |
| 14:03.31 | krka | weird |
| 14:03.35 | krka | i just dont get it |
| 14:03.45 | krka | Astrolabe\Load.xml |
| 14:03.45 | krka | MapLibrary\MapLibrary.lua |
| 14:03.45 | krka | main.lua |
| 14:03.47 | krka | that's my toc |
| 14:04.14 | clad|away | whats MapLibrary? |
| 14:04.16 | krka | local AstroLabe = DongleStub("Astrolabe-0.4") |
| 14:04.23 | krka | my new helper thingy |
| 14:04.30 | krka | that's inside MapLibrary.lua |
| 14:04.42 | clad|away | did you exit wow? |
| 14:04.44 | krka | wait... |
| 14:04.45 | clad|away | if you added new files |
| 14:04.47 | krka | i think i have a typo |
| 14:04.48 | krka | :( |
| 14:04.50 | krka | how awkward |
| 14:04.51 | clad|away | ah |
| 14:05.08 | JoshBorke | krka: lol |
| 14:05.12 | JoshBorke | krka: have you heard of GPSLib? |
| 14:05.20 | krka | not really |
| 14:05.26 | krka | what is it? |
| 14:05.46 | JoshBorke | it's a little library cryect wrote to demonstrate getting coordinates inside instances |
| 14:06.18 | krka | ah right |
| 14:06.28 | krka | relative coordinates, right? |
| 14:06.33 | JoshBorke | correct |
| 14:07.48 | krka | yeah i think i did hear of that |
| 14:08.01 | JoshBorke | dunno if you'd be able to find any use for it in AT |
| 14:08.04 | krka | i had that idea years ago but didnt do anything about it |
| 14:08.07 | JoshBorke | btw, how do you plan on making AT work? |
| 14:08.45 | krka | by only letting it be an addon for giving directions |
| 14:09.14 | JoshBorke | could you have it determine when someone veers off the path and optionally play a sound? :_D |
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| 14:11.48 | krka | possibly |
| 14:12.03 | krka | i'm really in a very early stage, designing data structures and stuff |
| 14:12.49 | JoshBorke | psh, work faster |
| 14:14.16 | krka | doing my best |
| 14:14.16 | JoshBorke | your best isn't good enough! |
| 14:14.27 | krka | he must have really gotten upset |
| 14:14.52 | Legorol | did i hear you say you are writing AT? |
| 14:14.55 | Legorol | gogo |
| 14:15.15 | krka | rewriting from the ground up |
| 14:15.30 | Legorol | what will it do? |
| 14:15.31 | krka | using astrolabe, which i personally reviewed and found it to be miles ahead of the last incarnation of maplibrary |
| 14:15.53 | krka | mostly it will give directions to a specific target |
| 14:15.58 | krka | instead of actually moving |
| 14:16.15 | krka | i plan to implement better automatic path recording |
| 14:16.21 | Legorol | so a bit like tomtom? |
| 14:16.43 | Legorol | ah a good auto-recorder would be great |
| 14:16.46 | krka | as i understand it, tomtom only shows direction as a straight line to the target |
| 14:16.56 | clad|away | correct |
| 14:17.07 | krka | mine will work more like the original at |
| 14:17.20 | krka | i.e. show exactly how you should walk to get there |
| 14:17.25 | clad|away | if you make a recorder to record the roads and paths to graveyards in the game |
| 14:17.30 | krka | then i plan to collect data on npc / taxi / et.c. |
| 14:17.31 | clad|away | i will do anythign within my power to help record those paths |
| 14:17.42 | krka | so i can do /at taxi to automatically visit the nearest taxi |
| 14:17.54 | clad|away | that would be an extremely useful general library |
| 14:18.06 | krka | general library? |
| 14:18.27 | clad|away | yeah, using astrolabe that provides directions using waypoints, etc. |
| 14:18.34 | clad|away | showing someone how to get somewhere by following roads |
| 14:18.36 | clad|away | for example |
| 14:18.40 | clad|away | i may be thinking outside of your scope |
| 14:19.00 | Legorol | krka, i dunno how much you thought it through alreadt, but in case this is new: |
| 14:19.23 | Legorol | if you have aset of waypints, as per AT, and the user is walking along it, |
| 14:19.46 | Legorol | the tough but most useful part is if AT can detect it as the user "eats up" the waypoints |
| 14:19.51 | Legorol | so it only shows what remains |
| 14:19.56 | Legorol | if you see what i mean |
| 14:20.16 | krka | not really following |
| 14:20.19 | Legorol | um |
| 14:20.20 | clad|away | Legorol: you could easily only show the next waypoint if you wanted to |
| 14:20.25 | clad|away | and when you reach taht one, spit out the next one |
| 14:20.26 | krka | didnt the original AT show how much of the path was remaining? |
| 14:20.41 | Legorol | yah |
| 14:20.48 | Legorol | brb# |
| 14:21.15 | Gnarfoz | make it like pac man |
| 14:21.17 | Gnarfoz | eat the dots! :D |
| 14:21.20 | krka | damn it, astrolabe seems to give coordinates in range [0-1] |
| 14:21.23 | krka | i want it in yards damn it |
| 14:21.31 | Legorol | Ok here is what I mean |
| 14:21.33 | clad|away | GetDistanceToIcon() |
| 14:21.37 | clad|away | that gives you yards to an icon |
| 14:21.40 | Legorol | Original AT could calculate the path and remaining waypoints, sure |
| 14:22.03 | krka | i want _coordinates_ in yards |
| 14:22.03 | Gnarfoz | also, what'd be neat: while underway to a waypoint, display images of < and > cursor keys to indicate if you have to adjust your heading, while auto-running :D |
| 14:22.06 | Legorol | but because it was AT himself moving along the path, it knew when you reached a waypoint, that waypoint is then taken off the list, and only remaining is shown |
| 14:22.10 | krka | so the distance functions doesn |
| 14:22.13 | krka | t raelly help |
| 14:22.31 | clad|away | yes it does, place a fake icon and you get the yards |
| 14:22.43 | clad|away | or ask esamynn for some additions |
| 14:22.45 | Legorol | so with the new AT, wouldn't the tricky part be dynamically updating the remaining path, as the user is (potentially only approximately) ambling along the path |
| 14:22.58 | krka | Gnarfoz: that's the main idea yes.... (actually my idea was more liek having an arrow on the peripheri of a circle |
| 14:23.19 | krka | hm, i think i see your point now |
| 14:23.26 | Gnarfoz | anyway |
| 14:23.31 | Gnarfoz | off to my first real kara raid, now :D |
| 14:23.39 | Legorol | i just wanted to bring it up so you can bear that in mind when desiging your data structures |
| 14:23.44 | krka | but yes, in this case i'd have to recalculate the nearest road on the path |
| 14:23.46 | Legorol | you'll have to do a lot of recalculating of the path |
| 14:24.04 | krka | i wont recalculate the path - thats expensive |
| 14:24.07 | Legorol | the user might accidentally or intentionally skip a waypoint or two |
| 14:24.12 | Legorol | yup, i know it's expensive |
| 14:24.21 | krka | let's say the user finds a shortcut |
| 14:24.22 | Legorol | that's why i'm saying it's good if you think early about how are you going to tackle this |
| 14:24.30 | Legorol | exactly |
| 14:24.34 | Legorol | let's say i cut a corner in the road |
| 14:24.40 | krka | then AT will give bad advice until the user reaches the at road again |
| 14:24.58 | Legorol | yah, it would direct me back to the waypoint that i skipped |
| 14:25.11 | Legorol | and that is, from a user experience, not very hunky |
| 14:25.13 | krka | no, the nearest road on the path :) |
| 14:25.23 | Legorol | ok that's cool |
| 14:25.44 | krka | hm... or possibly the next waypoint of the nearest road |
| 14:25.44 | Legorol | but here is the crux: how will you know when you have to change from direction to the intended waypoint, to the nearest road? |
| 14:25.49 | Legorol | well whichever |
| 14:25.53 | Legorol | but do you see my problem? |
| 14:26.01 | krka | let me parse that first |
| 14:26.19 | Legorol | ok |
| 14:26.28 | krka | hm |
| 14:26.34 | krka | i dont think you understand |
| 14:26.38 | krka | here's the algorithm: |
| 14:26.41 | Legorol | quite possible :D |
| 14:26.50 | krka | 1) find which road on the path is currently nearest the user |
| 14:27.00 | krka | 2) show directions to the endpoint of that road |
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| 14:27.25 | krka | (or simply show directions to the point that's always X yards in front of you) |
| 14:27.28 | Legorol | is there a 3? |
| 14:27.30 | krka | no |
| 14:27.38 | krka | but replace 2 with the () |
| 14:27.50 | Legorol | ok, my question is: how many times do you do 1? |
| 14:27.52 | krka | x yards in front of the nearest point |
| 14:27.59 | krka | every frame :) |
| 14:28.03 | Legorol | ouch |
| 14:28.11 | krka | dont think it's that expensive |
| 14:28.13 | Legorol | ok that's what i mean |
| 14:28.21 | krka | i plan on dividing the graph data into sectors |
| 14:28.32 | krka | so it only scans the nearest 100x100 yards or whatever |
| 14:28.33 | Legorol | but in that case aren't you effectively recalculating the remaining path every time? |
| 14:28.38 | krka | no |
| 14:28.47 | Legorol | i may be confused here.. but how is that different from recalculating remaining path? |
| 14:28.49 | krka | just scanning for which nearby roads are included in the current path |
| 14:29.04 | Legorol | ok maybe an example is in order to clear things up |
| 14:29.22 | Legorol | consider four waypoints A to D, neatly lined up at say 300 yard intervals all on a straight line |
| 14:29.32 | Legorol | (say that path is in east-west direction) |
| 14:29.45 | Legorol | A being eastmost point |
| 14:30.02 | Legorol | now let's say the user is somewhere near A, and wants to get to D |
| 14:30.12 | Legorol | you give him directions to A, or somewhere between A and B, fine |
| 14:30.16 | Legorol | then you take him along B, C, D |
| 14:30.21 | Legorol | so far so good |
| 14:30.38 | krka | right |
| 14:30.38 | Legorol | how many times do you calculate the A->B->C->D path for display purposes? |
| 14:30.53 | krka | the actual path is computed once |
| 14:30.55 | Legorol | or for any purpose that matter |
| 14:30.56 | Legorol | ok |
| 14:31.03 | Legorol | now here comes the gist of it |
| 14:31.08 | krka | uh oh |
| 14:31.10 | Legorol | you show directions for user to get to A |
| 14:31.18 | Legorol | but user wanders iff, going north say, far away |
| 14:31.31 | Legorol | then he wonders back somewhere near between B and C |
| 14:31.40 | Legorol | are you still showing him directions to A or somewhere between A and B? |
| 14:31.47 | krka | no |
| 14:31.56 | krka | it will find the nearest road on the bat |
| 14:31.57 | krka | path |
| 14:31.58 | Legorol | is that because you keep rescanning the roads on the A-D path? |
| 14:32.00 | Legorol | ok |
| 14:32.02 | krka | which is between B and C |
| 14:32.10 | Legorol | so at which point do you know to remove the A-B road from the path? |
| 14:32.17 | krka | it's never "removed" |
| 14:32.35 | Legorol | ok, so how would you update a visual display of the remaining path? |
| 14:32.37 | krka | that's the main difference from old autotravel i guess |
| 14:32.42 | krka | (one of many) |
| 14:32.55 | krka | i know which point on B-C is closest to the user |
| 14:33.02 | Legorol | ok so you scan user's current position against the roads on the (once-only calculated) path |
| 14:33.04 | krka | so i know the current progress point |
| 14:33.06 | Legorol | yes |
| 14:33.52 | Legorol | ok, so if you say wanted to display the remaining path still to be walked, |
| 14:34.03 | Legorol | would you be able to update that display rather quickly, without much recalculating? |
| 14:34.23 | Legorol | i guess you could, since you know the progress point and you have a list of the roads |
| 14:34.30 | krka | exactly |
| 14:34.41 | Legorol | ok so whilst the whole path as such is immutable, |
| 14:34.51 | Legorol | the subset of "to be walked" roads can be updated very quickly |
| 14:35.08 | krka | right |
| 14:35.24 | Legorol | ok then i'm happy, thanks for clarifying |
| 14:35.27 | krka | cool |
| 14:35.29 | Legorol | i have one performance related question left |
| 14:35.40 | krka | just one? i have hundreds in my mind already |
| 14:35.40 | Legorol | you said you recheck for nearest road every frame (or so) |
| 14:35.55 | Legorol | on a very long path, with many roads (let's say 500), isn't that too expensive? |
| 14:36.17 | krka | i'm worried about my recorder... it currently adds one road every frame... then i need to merge straight roads, and splice intersections |
| 14:36.28 | krka | possibly |
| 14:36.38 | Legorol | yah the recorder is fiendish |
| 14:36.42 | krka | that's why i will divide the graph into a grid system |
| 14:36.50 | Legorol | i tried to do a smart recorder at one point, and it was very difficult so i abandoned it |
| 14:36.51 | krka | so it only checks lines in nearby cells |
| 14:37.31 | krka | my strategy is mostly: add lines between all walked points, merge straight lines, create new points in intersection |
| 14:37.48 | krka | and also round coordinates to integers |
| 14:37.55 | Legorol | that is going to be helluva difficult |
| 14:38.04 | krka | possibly :) |
| 14:38.07 | krka | and fun |
| 14:38.14 | Legorol | rounding is not a bad idea, but you have to be very careful about the precision you round to |
| 14:38.42 | Legorol | i was just about to say that in tight spots, trees, doorways etc., you may need more precision |
| 14:38.51 | Legorol | but then i realised that since it's the human walking, you don't need such a big precision |
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| 14:39.12 | Legorol | you can even rely ont he user veering off AT's points and not following it exactly, in order to avoid obstacles |
| 14:39.21 | Legorol | this is in a way therefore somewhat easier than if you had to follow it robotically |
| 14:39.50 | Legorol | dunno what you think about that |
| 14:39.54 | krka | Legorol: right. this is mostly aimed for road walking |
| 14:40.03 | krka | not tight corners in cities |
| 14:40.09 | Legorol | if you really want to turn the user into a robot, so they only watch the UI, |
| 14:40.17 | Legorol | you'd need much more precision to avoid every rock |
| 14:40.35 | krka | yeah |
| 14:40.46 | krka | i'm thinking 1-5 yard precision |
| 14:40.55 | krka | probably 1-2 |
| 14:40.56 | Legorol | i think 5 is good |
| 14:41.06 | Legorol | might even be 10 |
| 14:41.14 | Legorol | i don't think you need 1-2 |
| 14:41.14 | krka | then there's the problem of removing redundant data |
| 14:41.27 | krka | if the user walks around the same spot a lot, it's going to get a large number of data points |
| 14:41.43 | Legorol | well the recorder should be smart to not record new points near old points |
| 14:41.54 | Legorol | this is also important if the user stops mid-walk and just idles a bit |
| 14:41.57 | Legorol | i mean mid-record |
| 14:42.03 | krka | why? |
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| 14:42.07 | krka | stopping is not a problem |
| 14:42.20 | krka | it simply wont add 0-length lines |
| 14:42.29 | Legorol | oh i see, stopping is a different problem from revisiting |
| 14:42.42 | krka | is esamynn around much any more? |
| 14:42.43 | Legorol | detecting re-visits is a pain by the sound of it :/ |
| 14:42.46 | krka | i want to discuss some Astrolabe things |
| 14:42.52 | Legorol | ok i'll shut up so you can get constructive :o) |
| 14:42.55 | krka | nah |
| 14:42.58 | Legorol | i just always love bouncing the ideas |
| 14:43.06 | krka | i haven't figured out much of these things yet |
| 14:43.10 | krka | good to get input |
| 14:43.25 | krka | i want this to have much fewer settings |
| 14:43.29 | krka | basically just install and go |
| 14:43.49 | Legorol | I think for revisit detection you'll have to scan existing points, your partitioning idea seems great there |
| 14:43.55 | krka | possibly only two interface thingies - /at <keyword> to travel there, and click on map to go to the nearest pont |
| 14:44.18 | krka | partitioning? |
| 14:44.20 | Legorol | well you need some interface for start/stop record and such like |
| 14:44.27 | krka | nah |
| 14:44.28 | Legorol | didn't you say you'll partition the points for faster searching? |
| 14:44.46 | krka | i'll automatically run the recorder when out of combat, and not on mount or taxi |
| 14:44.52 | Legorol | and i'm afraid you won't get away from making a GUI for picking destination ;-) |
| 14:44.53 | krka | ah that |
| 14:44.56 | Legorol | not just slash commands |
| 14:45.11 | Legorol | uh, that doesn't sound like a great idea |
| 14:45.18 | Legorol | that way you will put points everywhere on the map |
| 14:45.22 | Legorol | not just on roads |
| 14:45.34 | krka | so? :) |
| 14:45.43 | krka | btw, is there any way to detect "falling"? |
| 14:46.04 | krka | i might implement an off-switch for the recorder |
| 14:46.08 | krka | it's not difficult |
| 14:46.11 | Legorol | the problem with putting points everywhere is how do ou know which one's connected to which? |
| 14:46.44 | krka | if i walk from P1 to P2, the recorder adds a line between P1 and P2 |
| 14:46.51 | Legorol | let me give you example: there is a wall. you can walk along it on one side, round around it, and walk back the other side |
| 14:46.53 | krka | (and P2 to P1) |
| 14:47.03 | krka | right |
| 14:47.07 | Legorol | you get two sets of points, parallel to each other |
| 14:47.10 | Legorol | very close to each other |
| 14:47.13 | krka | right |
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| 14:47.29 | krka | but you never walked between those two sets directly |
| 14:47.31 | krka | so no line there |
| 14:47.38 | Legorol | how will you distinguish this from the user just walking along a road, turning around, and walking back but 5 yards away from the previous path |
| 14:47.47 | krka | i dont |
| 14:48.16 | Legorol | then you have a huge number of parallel lines along a road where you could remove them |
| 14:48.35 | krka | yeah |
| 14:48.47 | Legorol | if i keep walking up and down the road between say goldshire and stormwind |
| 14:48.50 | krka | there is a problem of too much data |
| 14:48.57 | Legorol | will i keep generating points endlessly? |
| 14:49.00 | Legorol | that's not good |
| 14:49.09 | Legorol | but you may not be able to distinguish that from the wall scenario |
| 14:49.13 | Legorol | see my problem? |
| 14:49.17 | krka | yes |
| 14:49.50 | krka | one solution is to allow manual inspection / removal of paths / points |
| 14:49.50 | Legorol | i thoroughly recommend that recording be togglable, in a very easy fashion in fact |
| 14:49.58 | krka | and turning of recording |
| 14:50.04 | Legorol | no, i think it's better to let the user turn recording on/off easily |
| 14:50.07 | krka | you've convinved me |
| 14:50.13 | krka | i think you need both those |
| 14:50.28 | Legorol | well the manual inspection could be an "advanced" feature |
| 14:50.33 | Legorol | which you hide away as much as you can |
| 14:50.42 | Legorol | since you wanted to simplify the interface |
| 14:50.44 | krka | possibly |
| 14:50.49 | Legorol | and i agree there |
| 14:50.56 | Legorol | the manual editing is very fiddly, and confusing and error prone |
| 14:50.59 | Legorol | most users shouldn't do it |
| 14:51.12 | Legorol | in the old AT, lot of people didn't grasp the concept of point/road/path |
| 14:51.14 | krka | so... anyone know if esamynn is around anymore? |
| 14:52.16 | krka | good point |
| 14:52.56 | Legorol | however, i have a simplification suggestio |
| 14:53.10 | clad|away | Esamynn is in Europe for another two weeks I believe |
| 14:53.12 | Legorol | you can just assume that AT's intended use is for roads and open areas |
| 14:53.27 | Legorol | and not narrow things, wall scenarios etc. |
| 14:53.39 | Legorol | so you can just remove points that are close to each other |
| 14:54.42 | Legorol | having said all this, knowing you you'll shock people with some fiendishly clever and unexpected solution ;-) |
| 14:55.06 | krka | hah |
| 14:55.10 | krka | you overestimate me |
| 14:55.16 | krka | thanks clad|away |
| 14:56.17 | krka | wait... why is there an option in wow to turn on lua errors? |
| 14:56.26 | krka | who wouldnt want that always on? |
| 14:57.33 | clad|away | blizzard customer service |
| 14:57.47 | krka | heh |
| 14:58.19 | clad|away | serioulsy, that's why its disabled :P |
| 15:00.35 | krka | hmm... this needs more thought |
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| 15:29.25 | krka | hm |
| 15:29.35 | krka | is there some weird rules in wow now about when you are allowed to create tables? |
| 15:30.36 | krka | nvm |
| 15:30.36 | clad|away | no |
| 15:31.21 | krka | my own fault :) |
| 15:50.47 | krka | not sure i like how astrolabe is limited in conversions |
| 15:50.54 | |FF|Im2good4u | heh would be hard lua if it was :P |
| 15:56.10 | clad|away | krka: you can write your own conversion routines, or talk to Esamynn, again |
| 15:56.12 | clad|away | *shrug* |
| 15:56.23 | clad|away | it does the hard work for you, conversions after that arent' tough |
| 15:56.33 | clad|away | he adds features as people needs them |
| 15:58.22 | krka | yeah |
| 15:58.31 | krka | i have to restructure parts of his code |
| 15:58.35 | krka | not too much work i guess |
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| 16:22.52 | mikma | so, i have this little code that seems to work nicely: http://mikma.pastey.net/70155 .. now, how can i bind that "click of ezheal1" to key F1? |
| 16:24.14 | [dRaCo] | use spellbinder to bind "/click ezheal1" to f1 |
| 16:24.16 | mikma | when i tried SetBinding("F1", ezheal1:Click()) i got message it being blocked |
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| 16:25.51 | Nerinia | or SetOverrideBindingClick(ezheal1, nil, "F1", "ezheal1") |
| 16:26.40 | mikma | Nerinia: than you very much. that works :) |
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| 16:40.01 | N00bZXI | ugh, I wish some things didn't become slightly distorted when scaling |
| 16:41.10 | krka | damn it, i can't get map scaling right |
| 16:50.13 | mikma | so, i now have a button with SetAttribute("shift-spell1", "Healing Wave") ... the same button now works with F1, when i press F1 it casts Lesser Healing Wave, but shift-F1 doesn't do anything. |
| 16:51.36 | Nerinia | Check for the default binding "target player pet" |
| 16:52.02 | mikma | ok, thanks again :) |
| 16:53.44 | mikma | well, seems like it does this: TargetUnit("pet") |
| 16:53.46 | mikma | nothing else |
| 17:14.47 | krka | Legorol: i think i have to give up parts of my strategy |
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| 17:21.15 | mikma | so, i have this code: http://mikma.pastey.net/70160 .. why won't shift-F1 work at all? am I missing something? |
| 17:23.52 | N00bZXI | try making a macro |
| 17:23.56 | N00bZXI | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:24.02 | N00bZXI | see if it works with shift that way |
| 17:24.15 | stavmar | does anyone use lightheaded here? |
| 17:24.25 | clad|away | yes i do |
| 17:24.38 | stavmar | lol clad|away how are you |
| 17:24.48 | clad|away | good |
| 17:25.08 | stavmar | i exited teh attached window and it closed appropriately but how do i activate teh mod again |
| 17:25.42 | stavmar | i tried the slash commands with no success, what am I missing? |
| 17:25.46 | clad|away | open the quest log |
| 17:26.01 | clad|away | it only appears when the quets log is open |
| 17:26.04 | clad|away | unless some addon reparented it |
| 17:26.12 | stavmar | hmm |
| 17:26.22 | stavmar | that is possible |
| 17:26.51 | stavmar | but when i closed the window it made the sound and then when i opened the QuestLogit again no luck... |
| 17:27.29 | mikma | N00bZXI: that should be possible with spell too, but i'm not sure why the shift+F1 doesn't work |
| 17:28.13 | stavmar | clad|away: I am using nQuestLog and when i access that mod I see the LH window the wowhead information in it... |
| 17:28.26 | mikma | http://www.wowwiki.com/Secure_Frames_Overview <- followed this, but still not sure can it be used with keybind |
| 17:28.37 | clad|away | stavmar: You'll need to talk to that author then |
| 17:28.43 | clad|away | it you re-attach it and open the default quest log it shoudl be there. |
| 17:29.01 | N00bZXI | mikma: Attributes seem to be fine, I'd think it's something with the binding code since I know nothing about that |
| 17:29.03 | stavmar | yeah that is what i tried, with no success, so I will ask neuron... TY |
| 17:29.24 | mikma | N00bZXI: me neither :O that's the problem i currently have |
| 17:29.40 | mikma | Nerinia did help me moment ago but he's afk now i think |
| 17:29.54 | N00bZXI | \Does a /click macro work with the binding though? |
| 17:30.20 | Bam__ | do you have "statebindings" attribute set in the header? |
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| 17:32.06 | Nerinia | mikma: run this and try again -> /run SetBinding("SHIFT-F1") |
| 17:32.31 | mikma | Nerinia: nothing happens |
| 17:33.15 | Nerinia | uhm |
| 17:33.41 | mikma | Nerinia: http://mikma.pastey.net/70160 <- that's the current version i have, and plain F1 works |
| 17:34.08 | mikma | Nerinia: shift+F1 is not bound in anything |
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| 17:35.37 | Nerinia | your code works correct over here |
| 17:36.00 | N00bZXI | mikma: Try binding and unbinding something in Blizzard keybindings |
| 17:36.19 | N00bZXI | make sure you don't cancel it (esc does) |
| 17:36.20 | Bam__ | mikma: try ezheal1:SetAttribute("shift-type1", "spell") |
| 17:37.15 | mikma | Bam__: ok, let's see |
| 17:37.36 | Bam__ | I mean as an additional attribute to what you got already |
| 17:38.01 | mikma | good thing that you said that too |
| 17:38.16 | Bam__ | :D |
| 17:39.35 | mikma | Nerinia: it works with shift+f1 too? |
| 17:40.07 | Nerinia | Erm, no. I changed the button to J. F1 is already taken :P |
| 17:40.18 | Nerinia | but shift is working |
| 17:40.23 | Bam__ | I didn't actually hear what the problem was lol... does it work right now with clicking but not with a keybind? |
| 17:40.46 | mikma | Bam__: it works with F1, but shift+F1 doesn't work on me |
| 17:40.57 | Bam__ | what about mouseclicks? |
| 17:41.06 | Bam__ | shift-left-mouse? |
| 17:41.07 | mikma | dunno, the buttons aren't visible :) |
| 17:41.10 | Bam__ | ah |
| 17:41.54 | Bam__ | no luck with the extra attribute? |
| 17:42.07 | mikma | nope :( |
| 17:42.28 | Bam__ | hmm... try the catch-all: SetAttribute("*type*", "spell") |
| 17:43.19 | Bam__ | though it does sound more like it is some binding-"clash" |
| 17:43.44 | Nerinia | Mh, i believe i changed the type attribute :/ |
| 17:44.11 | mikma | well, to what then? :) |
| 17:44.47 | Bam__ | yea I dont think "type1" covers "shift-type1" |
| 17:44.59 | Nerinia | can't remember :( |
| 17:45.00 | N00bZXI | with ezheal1:SetAttribute("shift-type1", "spell") your code works for me |
| 17:45.30 | mikma | then i fooked up previously, let's see |
| 17:45.56 | Bam__ | I suggest using the "catch-all" patters to begin with: "*type*" etc |
| 17:46.24 | Bam__ | then you can always fine-tune them later if needed |
| 17:46.36 | mikma | ok the problem now is that shift+F1 casts the Lesser Healing Wave, not Healing Wave :P |
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| 17:48.03 | Bam__ | you started from fresh when adding/changing those attributes, right? Otherwise it can quickly become confusing what attributes are actually in effect :) |
| 17:48.26 | mikma | yeah i started this with 0 lines of code :D |
| 17:48.40 | Bam__ | that is, confusing to you... not to the computer.. it does as it's told :D |
| 17:49.14 | mikma | the mainproblem might be that this is the first time i'm coding with SetAttribute's |
| 17:50.04 | Bam__ | nah the computer doesn't care about that either... hehe |
| 17:50.34 | mikma | lol |
| 17:51.10 | mikma | this should be easy for most, but somehow i mess it up anyway :D |
| 17:51.10 | Bam__ | but to be serious... don't choose too specific attributes to begin with... it requires knowing the exact matching algorithm... better to use "*type*" and the likes |
| 17:51.58 | mikma | ok let's test that one then |
| 17:52.43 | mikma | still for some reason it tries to cast the same spell |
| 17:52.53 | N00bZXI | Question: Is there any reason a frame should randomly become placed.. nowhere? By that I mean it's shown but you can't see it because it has no points. |
| 17:53.51 | Bam__ | mikma: I would start with this: http://mikma.pastey.net/70163 |
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| 17:55.06 | mikma | Bam__: and still it casts LHW with shft+f1 :P |
| 17:55.32 | Bam__ | hmm |
| 17:56.05 | mikma | i think i'll test something else |
| 17:57.02 | N00bZXI | Just tested that code and it works perfectly for me |
| 17:57.48 | mikma | N00bZXI: doesit cast different spells or same spell |
| 17:58.08 | Bam__ | could you try printing the result of this: GetBindingAction("SHIFT-F1", true) |
| 17:58.23 | Tem|Gone | N00bZXI, you initially, the frame has no place |
| 17:58.26 | Tem|Gone | s/you/ |
| 17:58.31 | Tem|Gone | s/you// |
| 17:58.36 | Tem|Gone | >< |
| 17:58.38 | clad|away | lol |
| 17:58.38 | Tem|Gone | well |
| 17:58.42 | N00bZXI | lol |
| 17:58.44 | Tem|Gone | initially, the frame has no location |
| 17:58.51 | N00bZXI | mikma: Different |
| 17:58.58 | Tem|Gone | so until you :SetPoint or :SetAllPoints, it doesn't have a location |
| 17:59.11 | mikma | Bam__: CLICK ezheal1:LeftButton |
| 17:59.32 | N00bZXI | Tem|Gone: I'm running setpoint on it, then randomly (not on reload) it disappears like taht |
| 17:59.51 | N00bZXI | SetPoint is ran right after the frame is created and nothing related to moving is ever done to the frame |
| 18:00.01 | Tem|Gone | N00bZXI, what are you anchoring it to? |
| 18:00.07 | Bam__ | mikma: hmm... I actually expected it to be nil |
| 18:00.07 | N00bZXI | UIParent |
| 18:00.14 | Tem|Gone | is the frame :IsVisible() |
| 18:00.17 | Bam__ | but im not sure.... |
| 18:00.36 | N00bZXI | Goes away on reload, but I believe it was |
| 18:00.55 | Bam__ | mikma: during all of these tries... have you reloaded the UI and/or logged in and out? |
| 18:01.00 | N00bZXI | GetTop, GetLeft, GetRight, etc returned nil when it disappeared though |
| 18:01.03 | N00bZXI | GetPoint as well |
| 18:01.14 | Tem|Gone | next time it disappears, check :GetNumPoints, :IsVisible and :GetPoint() |
| 18:02.05 | N00bZXI | Alright, I'll let you know what they return. |
| 18:02.05 | mikma | Bam__: yeah after every change i make in .lua i /rl |
| 18:02.58 | Bam__ | hmmm.... try with CTRL insteaad of SHIFT |
| 18:03.02 | Bam__ | in the attributes |
| 18:03.43 | Bam__ | I just say that out of desperation lol.... but you never know :D |
| 18:03.48 | mikma | hehe |
| 18:05.54 | Bam__ | Tem|Gone: would it be possible to register a non-frame table for UnitWatch without causing taint? |
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| 18:10.39 | mikma | i don't get this |
| 18:10.45 | mikma | why does it work on others but not on me :D |
| 18:11.21 | clad|away | because you're mikma |
| 18:11.29 | mikma | good one |
| 18:12.43 | Bam__ | is there a known problem with IsCurrentCast? |
| 18:12.53 | Bam__ | I've never had it return anything but nil |
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| 18:18.24 | krka | how do i check if a unit is an npc? |
| 18:18.40 | clad|away | UnitIsPLayerControlled() |
| 18:18.40 | clad|away | i think |
| 18:18.58 | krka | yeah, but that's the same for mobs, right+ |
| 18:19.17 | zenzelezz | maybe just UnitIsPlayer() then |
| 18:19.22 | Tem|Gone | you mean an npc that you can interact with? |
| 18:19.24 | krka | yeah |
| 18:19.47 | Tem|Gone | don't think that's tellable |
| 18:22.43 | krka | hm |
| 18:22.53 | krka | will civilian still work? |
| 18:23.47 | zenzelezz | isn't/wasn't Civilian just for the DK NPCs? |
| 18:23.53 | clad|away | yep |
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| 18:35.24 | krka | hm |
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| 18:39.11 | krka | i could perhaps use is player combined with can attack |
| 18:39.16 | N00bZXI | I just got 8xp for discovering stormwind. How rewarding.. |
| 18:39.17 | krka | both those should be false on npcs |
| 18:39.40 | krka | or maybe unitisenemy |
| 18:39.44 | zenzelezz | what about hostile NPCs? |
| 18:40.26 | krka | dont really care about those |
| 18:40.33 | krka | you'd never want to visit them :) |
| 18:40.46 | zenzelezz | then I suppose player+attack could work |
| 18:41.02 | krka | or player+enemy, would that be better? |
| 18:41.19 | krka | not sure when they'd differ though |
| 18:42.20 | krka | this could work! http://www.wowwiki.com/API_UnitReaction |
| 18:44.09 | N00bZXI | I could see it returning anywhere from 4 to 7 for a npc you can talk to |
| 18:45.14 | tedrock | if i set a mob as my focus and then want to target that focus how to i do that |
| 18:45.26 | tedrock | for a friendly target i use /assist |
| 18:45.53 | N00bZXI | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:46.10 | tedrock | do i jsut put focus |
| 18:46.17 | tedrock | or do i need to put [] on it or anything |
| 18:46.29 | N00bZXI | I'll just target focus if you put /target focus |
| 18:46.43 | N00bZXI | Works the same way for an unitid (and the assist command) |
| 18:46.43 | tedrock | doesn't seem to work |
| 18:46.57 | tedrock | odd. but if i type in as a command ti woks |
| 18:49.12 | tedrock | care to take a look at my macro real quick n00bz? |
| 18:50.53 | N00bZXI | Sure? |
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| 19:07.09 | tedrock | /focus [modifier:alt] |
| 19:07.12 | tedrock | /startattack [target=focus] |
| 19:07.15 | tedrock | that's it |
| 19:07.29 | tedrock | i reduced it to that. and it will not /starattack on my focus |
| 19:07.42 | tedrock | but if i type /startattack [target=focus] as a slash command ti does it |
| 19:08.07 | tedrock | i wonder if it's nerfed UI screwin with my macros |
| 19:08.51 | tedrock | i can set my focus with it by holding alt |
| 19:09.29 | tedrock | but if i just hit the bind it does not /target my focus or /startattack my focus via the macro but if i type the command |
| 19:10.17 | N00bZXI | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:10.29 | N00bZXI | I wasn't aware you could autoattack anything except focus |
| 19:10.35 | N00bZXI | target* |
| 19:10.50 | tedrock | it works if i do it as a command line |
| 19:11.23 | tedrock | what you jsut pasted makes me say the line in chat |
| 19:11.35 | N00bZXI | linebreak before the slashes |
| 19:11.59 | N00bZXI | in my case you target the focus though |
| 19:12.08 | N00bZXI | You could swap your target and focus instead |
| 19:12.25 | tedrock | yah see it sets teh focus if i do ALT bind |
| 19:12.34 | tedrock | but if i do just bind it does nto /target. i tihnk it's my addon |
| 19:12.50 | tedrock | i'm gonan turn off nerfed. i think it's that |
| 19:12.56 | N00bZXI | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:12.58 | N00bZXI | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:13.01 | tedrock | yah i did that |
| 19:13.15 | tedrock | i think it's nerfed. it likes to do stuff liek this |
| 19:13.32 | N00bZXI | I use nurfed and don't know of it doing anything of that nature. |
| 19:13.45 | tedrock | basicly i need this for arenas when hunters fake death. so i can instantly pick them up again as my target without tabbing or clicking on them |
| 19:13.54 | N00bZXI | Matter of fact I don't think addons can even modify the macro UI in such a way |
| 19:14.15 | tedrock | did you ever notice with nerfed if you have a bunch of macros on your action bar it will move them if you create a new macro |
| 19:14.54 | N00bZXI | That's because the buttons are virual and the buttons are placed based on slot # in the macro UI? |
| 19:15.39 | tedrock | yah. it also had a bug for a bit where you had to add ; at the end of every macro or it would cause an error if you used ANY macro |
| 19:15.53 | tedrock | nurfed has many issues with macros |
| 19:16.12 | N00bZXI | That happened with default Blizzard bars also and was fixed with latest patch |
| 19:16.28 | tedrock | i'm just disabling it. if it works then that's all the proof i need that it's nurfed |
| 19:17.03 | tedrock | see this is the macro i use for setting friendly focus |
| 19:17.27 | tedrock | /focus [modifier:alt] |
| 19:17.45 | tedrock | /stopmacro [modifier:alt]; [target=focustarget,noexists]; [target=focustarget,noharm] |
| 19:17.54 | tedrock | /assist [target=focus] |
| 19:18.00 | tedrock | /startattack |
| 19:18.03 | tedrock | and that works like a charm |
| 19:18.09 | tedrock | oh crap |
| 19:18.13 | tedrock | i just realized why it's not working |
| 19:19.09 | tedrock | i forgot with nurfed i can't use a bind or actionbar button unless i have somethign targeted |
| 19:19.22 | N00bZXI | Yes you can |
| 19:19.32 | N00bZXI | Go into actionbars menu and find the unit field |
| 19:19.34 | N00bZXI | for the bar |
| 19:19.41 | tedrock | and change it to what |
| 19:19.42 | N00bZXI | Make it blank (it has 'target' currently) |
| 19:20.14 | tedrock | i hope that's not it. because i'd feel better sad that for the past 3 verions that's all it was |
| 19:20.39 | tedrock | there's even a few threads on their forum about people with that issue. |
| 19:21.01 | tedrock | man thanks for telling me that. if it works you have saved me so much annoyance |
| 19:22.21 | tedrock | god dammit it had target. it was only that one bar too |
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| 19:22.40 | tedrock | so that's why i never noticed. man you are my hero |
| 19:22.46 | N00bZXI | np :) |
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| 19:27.02 | tedrock | got another question for ya |
| 19:27.16 | tedrock | do you have any idea why "/stopmacro [modifier:alt]; [target=focustarget,noexists]; [target=focustarget,noharm]" existed in my orginal macro |
| 19:27.21 | tedrock | i'm not sure why it's there |
| 19:27.42 | tedrock | the /stopmacro part mostly |
| 19:28.13 | zenzelezz | so you don't /assist when there's no focus or the focus is friendly and start attacking |
| 19:28.45 | tedrock | ok but the odd thing is if i add that to my harm focus marco it stops working |
| 19:28.52 | tedrock | i change noharm to harm though |
| 19:29.43 | tedrock | so basicly i just have "/stopmacro [modifier:alt]; [target=focustarget,noexists]; [target=focustarget,harm]" |
| 19:30.03 | tedrock | but it doesn't taget if i have that line in there |
| 19:31.42 | zenzelezz | when you say "focustarget,harm" in there, you're telling it to stop the macro if the focus's target is hostile, if I'm not mistaken |
| 19:31.53 | tedrock | haha |
| 19:31.55 | tedrock | true |
| 19:32.05 | tedrock | so maybe i should leave noharm |
| 19:32.21 | zenzelezz | probably, since it looks like you're making an attack macro |
| 19:32.22 | tedrock | hrmm still not workin |
| 19:32.54 | tedrock | yha i was adapting an assist macro and just figured it should be the oppisit |
| 19:33.13 | tedrock | so now it stops if they are "noharm" but the command is still stopping it for some reason |
| 19:36.02 | tedrock | i guess i can get rid of that line for now |
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| 20:58.52 | Corrodias | i wonder if the name "Gnomicide" is taken on my realm |
| 20:59.02 | Corrodias | armory time! |
| 20:59.37 | Corrodias | it is, by an orc hunter :( |
| 21:00.12 | [dRaCo] | ticket him :> |
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| 21:06.37 | Corrodias | so... play my hunter alt, or go start ogri'la stuff on my druid? |
| 21:08.36 | [dRaCo] | ogri'la gets annoying after a few days |
| 21:09.00 | foxlit | ogri'la is awesome :) |
| 21:09.09 | foxlit | netherwing gets annoying :) |
| 21:11.09 | nevcairiel | ogrila dailys are so great for moneymaking |
| 21:11.27 | nevcairiel | i generally do the one bombing quest in skettis and the 4 ogrila quests |
| 21:11.54 | zenzelezz | not the escort? |
| 21:12.02 | nevcairiel | i dont have that yet |
| 21:12.03 | foxlit | escort requires finding |
| 21:12.06 | nevcairiel | no idea what i am missing :P |
| 21:12.45 | nevcairiel | but still, even with wipe evenings on raids, money goes up :) |
| 21:13.05 | zenzelezz | escort seems to only spawn in three locations, and it's like three kills |
| 21:18.29 | stavmar_ | does anyone know why when you craft more than two items it would stop in the middle for no reason. I ask to make 10 bandages but it only makes two? |
| 21:18.50 | [dRaCo] | works fine here |
| 21:19.47 | zenzelezz | did you close the craft window? |
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| 21:24.58 | Cide | how do I stop the main action bar from switching to another bar on shadow form? |
| 21:25.11 | Cide | I need to do it fast, I'm in an arena :P |
| 21:25.17 | Cide | (it happens with the default ui) |
| 21:26.01 | ckknight | not with default UI, afaik |
| 21:26.04 | batrick | i've yet to figure it out :( |
| 21:27.33 | Cide | what the hell... |
| 21:27.35 | Cide | that's so stupid |
| 21:28.13 | batrick | ckknight, that's always been part of the default UI |
| 21:28.21 | nevcairiel | no not always |
| 21:28.25 | batrick | whenever you switch stances it auto changes your main action bar |
| 21:28.31 | nevcairiel | yes but not shadowform :P |
| 21:28.37 | batrick | yes it's new :P |
| 21:28.38 | nevcairiel | thats relatively new |
| 21:28.38 | batrick | i hate it! |
| 21:28.47 | zenzelezz | some patches ago I thought? |
| 21:29.03 | batrick | i dunno i only found out about it recently |
| 21:29.06 | batrick | i don't play my priest often |
| 21:29.27 | Cide | I hate it too, heh |
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| 21:45.48 | batrick | I sensed a tremor in the force. |
| 21:46.29 | zenzelezz | as if a million gnomes called out and were suddenly silenced? |
| 21:46.55 | batrick | tauren war stomped? |
| 21:47.22 | batrick | just try and imagine that happening in game |
| 21:47.24 | batrick | so funny |
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| 21:47.42 | foxlit | Gnomes need druids |
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| 23:02.47 | Corrodias | okay, riddle me this |
| 23:03.11 | Corrodias | when i mouseover a unit frame, i get a tooltip in the lower right corner of my screen which contains little information |
| 23:03.19 | Corrodias | i'd like to figure out the name of this frame, or where it's coming from |
| 23:03.28 | zenzelezz | the tooltip? |
| 23:03.34 | Corrodias | yes |
| 23:03.48 | zenzelezz | isn't that just the GameTooltip? |
| 23:03.54 | Corrodias | it looks like my tooltips addon is trying to make its own, but can't because this one is up |
| 23:04.23 | Corrodias | ah, that is indeed the name. hmm. |
| 23:04.26 | zenzelezz | try looking at the SecureUnitButton.lua's OnEnter/OnLeave |
| 23:04.37 | zenzelezz | think most unit frames pass those on to it and it shows/hides the tooltip |
| 23:05.53 | Corrodias | i have tipbuddy, and i saw a tooltip that looked very much like something it would produce, but it was only for a moment. when i moved the mouse, the other one showed up again |
| 23:09.16 | Corrodias | it looks like approximately 100% of my addons screw with the gametooltip |
| 23:11.21 | zenzelezz | "screw with"? |
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| 23:12.53 | Cairenn|afk | okay, this is really bizarre - it's raining on 1/4 of the house |
| 23:13.47 | zenzelezz | well, the weather doesn't tend to obey our borders |
| 23:14.26 | Cairenn|afk | it's just funny - look out the front windows, no rain - look out one back window, no rain - look out a different back window, pouring straight down as if out of a bucket |
| 23:14.56 | Cairenn|afk | I can literally go and look at the line between where there is and isn't rain in the back |
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| 23:15.05 | zenzelezz | hehe |
| 23:15.34 | Thelyna | heh, a few days ago I could look out the front window of this office, see rain |
| 23:15.44 | Thelyna | look out the other window and see sunshine |
| 23:16.02 | Cairenn|afk | yeah, that's what's going on here |
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| 23:17.18 | zenzelezz | woot, four hours circling Hellfire Peninsula: 103 Fel Iron Bars, 1.5 Khorium Bars |
| 23:17.27 | zenzelezz | so much for farming khorium for my resistance armor |
| 23:27.05 | Thelyna | zenzelezz: just farm cash and buy khorium, easier that way |
| 23:28.04 | Corrodias | zenzelezz: reference it |
| 23:28.44 | zenzelezz | Thelyna: probably will; but the fel iron veins also give Motes of Fire, so I still get some of what I need; and I can sell the spare fel iron =) |
| 23:29.26 | zenzelezz | and Corrodias: yes, it's pretty common to use GameTooltip |
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