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`00:00.39`	`cladhaire`	`pastamancer: its really stupid the way it is right now, heh =)`
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`00:06.31`	`Kaelten`	`cladhaire: are you feeling ok, you seem to be talking to yourself`
`00:08.02`	`cladhaire`	`word`
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`00:49.48`	`batrick`	`is there a nice list on wowwiki of bgfiles to choose from for frames?`
`00:49.54`	`batrick`	`i can't find anything :S`
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`01:02.44`	`AnduinLothar`	`http://www.starcraft2.com/features/protoss/index.xml?tab=colossus war of the worlds?`
`01:05.49`	`Bleeter`	`wtf "Furries are shy people who normally sit in front of the computer playing World of Warcraft," says Howler, "and being a furry is a way to make friends." http://www.theregister.co.uk/2007/06/28/bay-area_furries/`
`01:09.50`	`ckknight`	`...no`
`01:10.47`	`AnduinLothar`	`that article is disturbing`
`01:11.05`	`ckknight`	`Bleeter: warcraft is nowhere in there...`
`01:11.17`	`ckknight`	`wait, more pages...`
`01:11.25`	`Bleeter`	`ckknight: yeah, it's the closing line on page 3 ;)`
`01:12.33`	`AnduinLothar`	`i dont know where the author's take or the subject itself is more disturbing tho`
`01:13.09`	`Bleeter`	`El Reg usually takes the piss outta their subjects, or if they wish to revist the topic later, hide the fact they're taking the piss ;)`
`01:13.17`	`Bleeter`	`*revisit`
`01:21.11`	`Mr_Rabies2`	`what`
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`01:22.06`	`Fin`	`who`
`01:22.42`	`Fin`	`purl, tell Mr_Rabies2 about el reg`
`01:22.52`	`Mr_Rabies2`	`someone's horribly misinformed as to what a furry is`
`01:23.02`	`Fin`	`~furry`
`01:23.24`	`Mr_Rabies2`	`i'm not going to read that whole article`
`01:23.51`	`Mr_Rabies2`	`but yeah, they seemed to skim over the fact that 90% of them are drama bombs with persecution complexes :x`
`01:29.46`	`Mr_Rabies2`	`dammit i need a better looking helm`
`01:29.49`	`Mr_Rabies2`	`this one is AWFUL`
`01:30.04`	`Mr_Rabies2`	`http://www.wowhead.com/?search=Helm+of+the+Claw`
`01:30.39`	`Mr_Rabies2`	`hrm, i could get a cobrascale hood made`
`01:33.36`	`Corrodias`	`okay, our rogue and shadow priest keep getting disabled early in the prince fight`
`01:33.42`	`Corrodias`	`either by death for disconnection`
`01:34.11`	`Tem\|Work`	`that's bad, mkay`
`01:34.14`	`Corrodias`	`yeah!`
`01:34.20`	`Corrodias`	`it's me and one enh shaman on dps at that point :P`
`01:34.26`	`Corrodias`	`oh, and the warlock`
`01:34.31`	`Corrodias`	`oh! and hunter`
`01:34.34`	`Tem\|Work`	`you = ?`
`01:34.34`	`Corrodias`	`they're so quiet i don't notice them`
`01:34.37`	`Tem\|Work`	`mage?`
`01:34.38`	`Corrodias`	`feral druid`
`01:34.40`	`Tem\|Work`	`oh`
`01:34.47`	`Corrodias`	`they're back at range where i don't see them`
`01:37.22`	`Corrodias`	`this MM hunter who has a tallstrider`
`01:37.45`	`Corrodias`	`not terrible for a MM hunter i guess`
`01:39.11`	`Mr_Rabies2`	`whoaa`
`01:39.13`	`Mr_Rabies2`	`http://www.wowhead.com/?npc=23618`
`01:39.18`	`Mr_Rabies2`	`his voice freaked me out`
`01:39.29`	`Mr_Rabies2`	`ride by a tauren and hear a little kid's voice as you click on him`
`01:40.21`	`Mr_Rabies2`	`it threw me off so much`
`01:40.34`	`Wobin`	`Ahab? =)`
`01:40.39`	`Mr_Rabies2`	`it's not a weird voice or anything, i was totally not expecting it though`
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`01:44.16`	`cladhaire`	`<PROTECTED>`
`01:45.57`	`Mr_Rabies2`	`O_o`
`01:46.36`	`cladhaire`	`think I can pull it off?`
`01:46.44`	`Mr_Rabies2`	`that's you? :o`
`01:46.51`	`cladhaire`	`for some value of "me".. yes.`
`01:47.00`	`cladhaire`	`horrible pictures, but you get the idea`
`01:47.37`	`Mr_Rabies2`	`you've got the jawline to pull off the duke nukem/sarge look`
`01:47.38`	`Mr_Rabies2`	`:p`
`01:48.11`	`cladhaire`	`hahahaha`
`01:48.28`	`cladhaire`	`my cowlick makes that more difficult`
`01:48.45`	`ckknight`	`just get a lot of gel and slick it straight up`
`01:48.56`	`cladhaire`	`yeah i'm not such a fan of that =/`
`01:49.14`	`ckknight`	`then slick it back`
`01:49.17`	`cladhaire`	`I've definitely tried it.. but it only looks good for so long before whatever you use to put it up gets nasty`
`01:49.27`	`ckknight`	`ah`
`01:49.28`	`ckknight`	`hehe`
`01:49.32`	`Mr_Rabies2`	`http://www.driverzone.cz/tapetygamesy/Duke_Nukem_004.jpg`
`01:49.33`	`Mr_Rabies2`	`:p`
`01:49.36`	`ckknight`	`my hair's great`
`01:49.39`	`ckknight`	`so easy to work with`
`01:49.57`	`ckknight`	`yea, go for the duke nukem haircut`
`01:49.57`	`cladhaire`	`mine's good too, i always get told that.. I'm just hair retarded`
`01:50.05`	`Mr_Rabies2`	`mine does its own thing, regardless`
`01:50.21`	`Mr_Rabies2`	`and its own thing is hobohair`
`01:50.28`	`ckknight`	`lol`
`01:50.34`	`Shirik`	`I give up`
`01:50.41`	`Shirik`	`whenever I see "Ace is awesome" anymore, I'll just accept it`
`01:50.44`	`Shirik`	`I don't even care anymore`
`01:51.12`	`ckknight`	`no more fighting the good fight?`
`01:51.16`	`Mr_Rabies2`	`that's like saying sony is awesome because of....ridge racer`
`01:51.17`	`\|Jelly\|`	`LUA`
`01:51.19`	`Mr_Rabies2`	`or something`
`01:51.20`	`ckknight`	`oh, btw, Ace is awesome`
`01:51.24`	`\|Jelly\|`	`8(`
`01:51.25`	`ckknight`	`:-P`
`01:51.29`	`Wobin`	`damnit where's krka?`
`01:51.32`	`ckknight`	`\|Jelly\|: ?`
`01:51.47`	`Wobin`	`Lua is not an acronym Jelly`
`01:52.04`	`\|Jelly\|`	`whew.`
`01:52.08`	`Shirik`	`Ace is ok. It is a very nice convenience, and it provides some nice features to users.`
`01:52.15`	`Shirik`	`It is NOT the solution to all problems, and it does not cure cancer.`
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`01:52.29`	`\|Jelly\|`	`It is and does too!`
`01:52.30`	`ckknight`	`hey, no one has proved that it _doesn't_ cure cancer`
`01:52.36`	`Shirik`	`authors know this`
`01:52.38`	`Shirik`	`unfortunately users do not`
`01:52.43`	`ckknight`	`yea`
`01:53.13`	`ckknight`	`I mean, the reason I got into Ace (1) in the first place as a developer was because of the standardization of the command line`
`01:53.18`	`cladhaire`	`Mr_Rabies: Duke Nukem added to the suggestions`
`01:53.24`	`Mr_Rabies2`	`rofl`
`01:53.39`	`ckknight`	`as a user, its addons were more efficient on my system than the alternatives`
`01:54.01`	`Mr_Rabies2`	`alternatively you could go for the anime school punk haircut`
`01:54.37`	`Wobin`	`cladhaire: I could also suggest the roman cut? Where it's a really short but straight fringe up front?`
`01:54.43`	`cladhaire`	`screenshot?`
`01:54.46`	`Wobin`	`hm`
`01:55.30`	`Mr_Rabies2`	`which i can't find`
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`01:58.16`	`Mr_Rabies2`	`i give up`
`01:58.20`	`Wobin`	`kinda like: http://www.temple.edu/photo/photographers/orkin/brando.JPG maybe?`
`01:58.33`	`Mr_Rabies2`	`all the crazy anime thug hair is hiding from google images`
`01:58.35`	`Wobin`	`but not what I had originally envisaged`
`02:00.24`	`cladhaire`	`hrm.`
`02:00.27`	`cladhaire`	`that's scary =)`
`02:00.33`	`cladhaire`	`but i'll add it :P`
`02:01.39`	`cladhaire`	`Not sure that would work on me =)`
`02:02.07`	`Mr_Rabies2`	`i vote this`
`02:02.08`	`Mr_Rabies2`	`http://www.ccs.neu.edu/home/dskippy/pictures/half_hair.jpg`
`02:03.04`	`cladhaire`	`yikes`
`02:08.08`	`batrick`	`he missed his eyebrowes`
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`02:22.58`	`zenzelezz`	`amusing, my pet gets more nature resist from my aura than I do`
`02:24.36`	`Shirik`	`yes`
`02:24.43`	`Shirik`	`because he gets your nature resist plus the aura`
`02:24.53`	`Shirik`	`meaning he gets about 30 from you, followed by another 70 from the aura`
`02:25.04`	`zenzelezz`	`what's the %, about 40?`
`02:25.23`	`Shirik`	`not quite sure, that sounds about right`
`02:33.38`	`Mr_Rabies2`	`hrmmm`
`02:33.54`	`Mr_Rabies2`	`my ace updater seems to be stuck in no externals mode`
`02:33.55`	`Mr_Rabies2`	`O_o`
`02:34.17`	`Mr_Rabies2`	`we shall see`
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`02:52.19`	`Mr_Rabies2`	`okay, so my loading time difference is the same with or without standalonelibs`
`02:52.29`	`Mr_Rabies2`	`time to go without because i'm tired of having 80 bajillion folders`
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`03:06.05`	`Thunder_Child`	`so 79 bajillion is ok?`
`03:07.04`	`Mr_Rabies2`	`i went from like, 99 ace related ones to like, 40`
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`03:21.29`	`InfernalRyan`	`Hi`
`03:21.34`	`Cairenn`	`hi`
`03:21.41`	`cogwheel`	`yo`
`03:23.10`	`InfernalRyan`	`hate to come in and just ask away but i had a question regarding map coords and how to translate them onto a world map =[`
`03:23.26`	`Shirik`	`dhi`
`03:23.28`	`Shirik`	`er`
`03:23.30`	`Shirik`	`hi`
`03:23.35`	`Shirik`	`and hi Cairenn`
`03:23.38`	`Cairenn`	`:)`
`03:23.57`	`Shirik`	`InfernalRyan: what other purpose is there here than to ask questions?`
`03:24.01`	`Shirik`	`uh`
`03:24.03`	`Shirik`	`don't answer that`
`03:24.05`	`InfernalRyan`	`answer questions`
`03:24.05`	`Shirik`	`just ask your quesiton ><`
`03:24.07`	`InfernalRyan`	`=)`
`03:24.23`	`zenzelezz`	`Shirik: you know very well that we come here to worship Cairenn`
`03:24.29`	`Cairenn`	`lol`
`03:24.43`	`InfernalRyan`	`I'm wanting to mark a world map on a in-game coordinate`
`03:24.53`	`InfernalRyan`	`like, draw an icon or something`
`03:25.21`	`InfernalRyan`	`there's gotta be some kind of translation though from like, a mouse x,y coordinate and a game location x,y coordinate`
`03:26.22`	`InfernalRyan`	`anyone have any ideas?`
`03:27.14`	`Shirik`	`not really`
`03:27.21`	`InfernalRyan`	`this might be it`
`03:27.21`	`Shirik`	`other than math`
`03:27.23`	`InfernalRyan`	`http://www.wowwiki.com/UI_Coordinates`
`03:27.26`	`Shirik`	`yes`
`03:27.27`	`Shirik`	`but it's all math`
`03:27.31`	`InfernalRyan`	`=]`
`03:27.45`	`Shirik`	`x-y coordinates are nothing more than a percentage along the texture`
`03:27.47`	`InfernalRyan`	`ya i realize that but there are some offsets or something that need to be figured in`
`03:28.01`	`InfernalRyan`	`texture of a given zone map?`
`03:28.06`	`Shirik`	`yup`
`03:28.10`	`InfernalRyan`	`really?`
`03:28.13`	`Shirik`	`sure`
`03:28.16`	`Shirik`	`why do you think it goes from 0 to 1`
`03:28.42`	`InfernalRyan`	`guess i was thinking more that the locs were made up from like 'imaginary' zone boundaries of the 3d world`
`03:28.53`	`MentalPower`	`InfernalRyan: Astrolabe`
`03:28.56`	`Shirik`	`you don't have access to the 3d coords at all`
`03:29.17`	`Shirik`	`what is considered the 3d xy coords are actually just a system invented by addon authors a long time ago`
`03:29.25`	`InfernalRyan`	`Shirik: was thinking of using that however I'm not a fan of 3rd party libraries`
`03:29.29`	`InfernalRyan`	`for support purposes`
`03:29.34`	`InfernalRyan`	`I like to know if it's broke i can fix it`
`03:29.35`	`Shirik`	`MentalPower recommended that :P`
`03:29.45`	`InfernalRyan`	`So forgive me for reinventing the wheel =]`
`03:29.50`	`Shirik`	`hey`
`03:29.53`	`Shirik`	`I'm a fan of doing the same`
`03:29.59`	`Shirik`	`I refuse to use CTL, ParserLib, and a bunch of other stuff`
`03:30.25`	`zenzelezz`	`he's a big fan of Ace though`
`03:30.30`	`Shirik`	`I hate you`
`03:30.32`	`MentalPower`	`parserLib I can understand`
`03:30.35`	`MentalPower`	`who, me?`
`03:30.39`	`MentalPower`	`err... no`
`03:30.39`	`Shirik`	`no, zenzelezz ><`
`03:30.51`	`Thrae`	`Eh? ParserLib-1.1 is made by rophy, it's the ParserLib-3.0 which is ckknight's Ace'd version.`
`03:31.09`	`MentalPower`	`CTL on the other hand, theres no reason not to use it`
`03:31.22`	`zenzelezz`	`Thrae: no-one said anything about an Ace ParserLib`
`03:31.24`	`Shirik`	`other than the fact that what I have already works and there's no good reason for me to switch`
`03:32.03`	`MentalPower`	`We've gone thru this so I won't start again, but you already know the case where your replacement will break`
`03:32.07`	`Thrae`	`Shirik: Well, rophy was very, very careful to try and get ParserLib-1.1 working for ALL localizations`
`03:32.08`	`Shirik`	`yeh`
`03:32.14`	`Shirik`	`I know, no point to start this all over again`
`03:32.23`	`Thrae`	`If you don't care about that, then that's fine`
`03:32.26`	`ckknight`	`CTL isn't Ace`
`03:32.35`	`MentalPower`	`I know that`
`03:32.39`	`MentalPower`	`and so does Shirik`
`03:32.40`	`Shirik`	`never said it was ?`
`03:32.42`	`zenzelezz`	`guys, Shirik said nothing about Ace`
`03:32.43`	`zenzelezz`	`I DID`
`03:32.47`	`zenzelezz`	`so stop it`
`03:33.15`	`InfernalRyan`	`Well i'm going to look into the coord thing a bit more`
`03:33.19`	`Thrae`	`Shirik: You know, you could always help rophy and Mikk develop their libs instead of branching out on your own -- that way you start with a proven framework`
`03:33.23`	`Shirik`	`this is the same discussion all over again so no point in doing it again`
`03:33.36`	`InfernalRyan`	`thanks for the help i'll stick around`
`03:33.38`	`InfernalRyan`	`=]`
`03:33.40`	`Shirik`	`no problem`
`03:33.40`	`ckknight`	`actually, Thrae, ParserLib doesn't work on all localizations, due to Blizzard's evil ambiguous globalstrings`
`03:34.12`	`Shirik`	`Thrae: I'm not going to go out and say "hey do you want help on ____"; if someone asks for help I'd typically offer it but I don't want to go sticking my nose into things that aren't mine, it's rude imho`
`03:34.58`	`Thrae`	`ckknight: Which is why rophy has some locale-specific strings from his testing, but he hasn't done a lot on it lately`
`03:35.00`	`zenzelezz`	`I'd say it's only rude if you go saying "hey, you should do this [...]"`
`03:35.59`	`ckknight`	`Thrae: Parser-3.0 has the same stuff...`
`03:36.11`	`ckknight`	`shrug`
`03:36.31`	`MentalPower`	`InfernalRyan: FYI, Astrolabe is released on an OpenSource license and you can modify it to your hearts desire`
`03:36.51`	`Thrae`	`Shirik: "Hey, because I want to use your lib in my addon, can I assist in the development of your lib, for the sake of both of us?" <-- that's rude?`
`03:37.35`	`Thrae`	`ckknight: I thought the discussion was "I don't want to use Ace libraries", but I was wrong. I was only saying ParserLib-1.1 was not Ace, not that it was better then ParserLib-3.0.`
`03:37.52`	`Shirik`	`in my personal opinion, yes. Potentially not to some, but there are those that can be very posessive of their code`
`03:38.05`	`ckknight`	`Thrae: ah, okay`
`03:38.08`	`Shirik`	`Not me, really, but I know there are some that are`
`03:38.32`	`ckknight`	`anyone is feel free to hack on my stuff :-P`
`03:39.36`	`Thrae`	`Shirik: If people take offense at things obviously not ment in any way to be derogatory, then that's -there- fault, not yours. I believe, including real life, that people who are oversensitive or paranoid should NOT be coddled.`
`03:39.58`	`Shirik`	`coddled?`
`03:40.09`	`Shirik`	`~dict coddled`
`03:51.34`	`MentalPower`	`#char us alleria mentak`
`03:54.49`	`Thunder_Child`	`Thrae is right Shirik, do NOT fondle them...however much fun it may be`
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`04:36.48`	`Shirik`	`Thunder_Child ><`
`04:44.17`	`Thunder_Child`	`heh`
`04:44.31`	`Thunder_Child`	`well thats what it said`
`04:44.37`	`Shirik`	`hey um, random comment`
`04:44.38`	`Thunder_Child`	`dont blame me`
`04:44.40`	`Shirik`	`http://www.guardianhq.com`
`04:44.46`	`Shirik`	`does that offline message look ok?`
`04:45.03`	`Shirik`	`it looks kinda... blah to me`
`04:45.12`	`Thunder_Child`	`it works`
`04:45.19`	`Shirik`	`it does work`
`04:46.39`	`Thunder_Child`	`but i'm the kind of person that would put on a msg like, cant you see we are busy, come back later...and stop knocking at the web addy`
`04:46.46`	`Shirik`	`lol`
`04:50.03`	`InfernalRyan`	`nice`
`04:50.09`	`InfernalRyan`	`thanks for the help w/ the coords`
`04:50.52`	`InfernalRyan`	`i've got a good enough handle on them that i feel comfortable using em`
`04:51.04`	`Shirik`	`cool cool`
`04:51.12`	`Shirik`	`just be aware blizzard really doesn't want to give us any of that`
`04:51.23`	`Shirik`	`if you saw the amount of work I went through just to make an altimeter/artifical horizon`
`04:52.03`	`Shirik`	`so, basically, everything you want to do with coords always stems from the map`
`04:52.08`	`Shirik`	`and you have to do the calculations from there`
`04:52.42`	`norganna`	`how could you possibly do an altimeter?`
`04:52.51`	`Shirik`	`mostly, it's a guess`
`04:52.55`	`Shirik`	`but a rather complex guess`
`04:53.15`	`Shirik`	`I should point out, however, that it works as an altimeter, not as an altitude indicator`
`04:54.15`	`Nom-`	`You last visited: Yesterday at 11:59 PM`
`04:54.16`	`Nom-`	`LIES`
`04:54.32`	`Nom-`	`I was watching the end of the Transformers movie at that time!`
`04:54.33`	`Nom-`	`:D`
`04:55.28`	`InfernalRyan`	`nice, tihs works like a charm =]`
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`06:05.20`	`MentalPower`	`is there a table.concat equivalent for perl?`
`06:06.33`	`Shirik`	`ya`
`06:08.10`	`Shirik`	`echo table.concat(table, {1,2,3}); \| lua`
`06:08.12`	`Shirik`	`=P`
`06:08.25`	`MentalPower`	`~lart Shirik`
`06:08.25`	`purl`	`pours hot grits down the front of Shirik's pants`
`06:08.29`	`Shirik`	`^^`
`06:08.35`	`MentalPower`	`:P`
`06:08.40`	`Shirik`	`on that note I know almost nothing about perl, sorry :(`
`06:08.45`	`Shirik`	`and on that note, time for befd`
`06:08.47`	`Shirik`	`bed too`
`06:09.53`	`Shirik`	`hm, I guess more accurately that would be`
`06:10.23`	`Shirik`	`nah that was right, nm`
`06:10.25`	`Shirik`	`time for bed`
`06:10.48`	`MentalPower`	`night Shirik`
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`06:42.03`	`Tem`	`hmm`
`06:42.10`	`Tem`	`CANES CHICKEN`
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`07:02.33`	`ckknight`	`gah, where's Iriel?`
`07:02.43`	`ckknight`	`I want to yell at him for making secure frames so damn complex`
`07:02.46`	`ckknight`	`lousy pie`
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`07:02.56`	`krka`	`hm, where can i find astrolabe?`
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`07:06.29`	`MentalPower`	`krka: Gatherer SVN`
`07:07.42`	`krka`	`ah i see`
`07:07.42`	`MentalPower`	`~gatherersvn`
`07:07.43`	`purl`	`You can get the gatherer SVN from http://norganna.org/svn/gatherer/trunk ( See also ~svn and ~tortoisesvn )`
`07:07.43`	`krka`	`i ignore purl, but thanks :)`
`07:07.54`	`MentalPower`	`[02:07:20]<purl>You can get the gatherer SVN from http://norganna.org/svn/gatherer/trunk ( See also ~svn and ~tortoisesvn )`
`07:09.16`	`krka`	`finally got wow up and running`
`07:09.23`	`krka`	`time to do some more coding`
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`07:17.55`	`krka`	`weird... astrolabe seems to run code that depends on the activate function, before the activate function can be run`
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`07:25.31`	`MentalPower`	`krka: what line?`
`07:27.45`	`krka`	`line 1171: for continent, zones in pairs(Astrolabe.ContinentList) do`
`07:27.57`	`krka`	`defined in: newInstance.ContinentList = { GetMapContinents() };`
`07:28.13`	`krka`	`ah no wait`
`07:28.14`	`krka`	`sorry`
`07:28.23`	`krka`	`i think it's actually called before`
`07:28.28`	`krka`	`here: DongleStub:Register(Astrolabe, activate)`
`07:28.34`	`krka`	`never mind :)`
`07:29.33`	`MentalPower`	`yup`
`07:29.53`	`MentalPower`	`hmm... I just noticed that your name is mentioned krka :)`
`07:31.47`	`krka`	`yeah`
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`07:48.23`	`Tem`	`huh?`
`07:48.33`	`Tem`	`whos name is mentioned in kz?`
`07:48.41`	`Tem`	`and in what context?`
`07:49.18`	`MentalPower`	`Tem: look at the top of the Astrolabe source file`
`07:49.48`	`Tem`	`oh`
`07:50.05`	`Tem`	`I read "krka" in your line as "kara"`
`07:50.13`	`Tem`	`hence my confusion`
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`09:34.13`	`Mike-N-Go`	`Anyone here skilled with Gatherer, I have been having trouble with figuring out how to share my whole database to a single target, although I have tired in #norganna, everyone there is idling. I have looked at http://norganna.org/wiki/Gatherer/Options but that only has a 'To Do' sticky, anyone have insight on this?`
`09:36.16`	`Mike-N-Go`	`Oh, I had to press 'mark these' I think that did it..`
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`10:25.50`	`pakoz`	`yo`
`10:26.05`	`pakoz`	`anyone know how to lock/unlock elkano's buff bars`
`10:26.41`	`[Ammo]`	`from the fubar lugin`
`10:26.44`	`[Ammo]`	`+p`
`10:26.49`	`N00bZXI`	`<PROTECTED>`
`10:26.52`	`[Ammo]`	`it's show anchor`
`10:27.01`	`[Ammo]`	`the option you're looking for`
`10:27.22`	`[Ammo]`	`if you're talking EBBs, if you're talking EBB (the old one) then it's /ebb locked or something`
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`10:28.38`	`pakoz`	`./ebb lock unlock wont work`
`10:28.45`	`pakoz`	`i just wanna move it lol`
`10:29.10`	`N00bZXI`	`Which one are you using?`
`10:29.13`	`N00bZXI`	`New one or old one?`
`10:29.29`	`pakoz`	`new`
`10:30.00`	`N00bZXI`	`Then it should print all slashes when you type ebb so you can find the command`
`10:30.08`	`pakoz`	`ya it doesnt lol`
`10:30.21`	`pakoz`	`config hide about`
`10:30.26`	`pakoz`	`i cnat find it in config list`
`10:30.48`	`N00bZXI`	`Is the fubar plugin shown?`
`10:31.30`	`pakoz`	`i dont use fubar`
`10:31.38`	`N00bZXI`	`Then it's probably a minimap button instead`
`10:31.49`	`pakoz`	`i see it`
`10:31.51`	`pakoz`	`thats the config menu`
`10:31.57`	`pakoz`	`i cant find unlock/lock in config`
`10:32.26`	`N00bZXI`	`[14:26:54]<[Ammo]>it's show anchor`
`10:32.31`	`N00bZXI`	`Try looking for that`
`10:33.26`	`pakoz`	`i have been`
`10:34.08`	`N00bZXI`	`I'm not sure then :(`
`10:35.07`	`pakoz`	`:(`
`10:35.23`	`zenzelezz`	`if you stick around Elkano might show up`
`10:35.30`	`zenzelezz`	`(or someone that knows the answer)`
`10:35.40`	`pakoz`	`got it`
`10:36.34`	`pakoz`	`it was the anchor`
`10:36.39`	`pakoz`	`i just couldnt find it ;x`
`10:36.45`	`zenzelezz`	`hehe`
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`10:44.02`	`sag_ich_nicht`	`heh`
`10:44.03`	`sag_ich_nicht`	`Shirik\|zZz`
`10:44.04`	`sag_ich_nicht`	`wake up`
`10:44.14`	`sag_ich_nicht`	`and take a look at GPSLib if you don't know it yet :P`
`10:46.11`	`foxlit`	`http://wowi.pastey.net/70038`
`10:46.56`	`foxlit`	`Question is described in pastey; mainly has to do with table.insert being weird`
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`10:49.22`	`foxlit`	`nvm`
`10:49.57`	`foxlit`	`t = {}, table.insert(t, 1, 1); -- t[1] == nil; table.insert appears to do nothing when called that way on a blank table`
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`10:52.45`	`krka`	`foxlit: that's not how my lua works`
`10:52.53`	`foxlit`	`really?`
`10:52.56`	`krka`	`really`
`10:53.24`	`krka`	`> t = {}; table.insert(t, 1, 1); print(t[1])`
`10:53.27`	`krka`	`returns 1`
`10:53.38`	`foxlit`	`sec, looking up insert syntax`
`10:54.12`	`foxlit`	`It's actually table.insert(table, position, entry) :(`
`10:54.39`	`krka`	`yeah`
`10:54.43`	`foxlit`	`Which explains everything -- I actually used 2, 1 to check`
`10:54.44`	`krka`	`i consider that a design flaw`
`10:55.02`	`krka`	`it is inconsistent with table.insert(table, entrt)`
`10:55.02`	`foxlit`	`Don't like optional arguments being inserted in the middle of things`
`10:55.06`	`krka`	`agreed`
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`11:45.37`	`N00bZXI`	`Is there a way I can get if any text is highlighted in a chat frame?`
`11:46.48`	`JoshBorke`	`you can't highlight chat frames, they are message frames`
`11:46.59`	`JoshBorke`	`or so i thought`
`11:49.23`	`JoshBorke`	`perhaps you mean editbox?`
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`12:18.20`	`sag_ich_nicht`	`i now definitifly have figure out what is wrong with women`
`12:18.40`	`sag_ich_nicht`	`their brain only supports UDP, but not TCP D:`
`12:21.39`	`nevcairiel`	`so they can receive and send to anyone, but not establish a real connection ? :P`
`12:23.07`	`Zicon`	`Funny, I thought that was the most common female gripe about males...`
`12:24.00`	`krka`	`you mean that women talk in weird ordering and skip vital messages?`
`12:26.23`	`Josh_Borke`	`krka wins`
`12:26.54`	`Zicon`	`I have no idea what you're talking about. Also, cake!`
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`12:34.24`	`sag_ich_nicht`	`[14:24] <krka> you mean that women talk in weird ordering and skip vital messages? <--and they don't send ACK packages on a SYN.`
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`12:38.40`	`sag_ich_nicht`	`mhm`
`12:39.00`	`Josh_Borke`	`you guys make me sad sometimes`
`12:40.42`	`zenzelezz`	`I made up something like that eons ago; except I just spoke of how my TCP implementation wasn't compatible with that of girls... something about bind(), listen() and connect()`
`12:42.21`	`Josh_Borke`	`failure to bind and connect?`
`12:47.10`	`zenzelezz`	`bah, I'm stuck in combat on the Ogri'la plateau, but there's nothing attacking me`
`12:47.19`	`N00bZXI`	`Hearthstone?`
`12:47.52`	`zenzelezz`	`CD`
`12:48.39`	`norganna`	`Worst part is when they send a FIN, you ACK, and send a FIN back, but they don't ACK, and leave you in a FIN_WAIT_2 state...`
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`12:52.23`	`Cairenn`	`:)`
`12:52.35`	`Josh_Borke`	`i have got to say that compiz = sex`
`12:52.44`	`norganna`	`ya`
`12:52.49`	`norganna`	`tis true`
`12:53.01`	`Josh_Borke`	`except the bug where i can't open new windows, that kinda sucks`
`12:53.19`	`zenzelezz`	`funny, "kompis" is Norwegian slang for "buddy"`
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`12:54.17`	`lolinternet`	`[14:48] <+norganna> Worst part is when they send a FIN, you ACK, and send a FIN back, but they don't ACK, and leave you in a FIN_WAIT_2 state... <--yes.`
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`12:56.09`	`norganna`	`phew... i was thinking it flew over everyone's heads there for a sec`
`12:57.06`	`sag_ich_nicht`	`disconnect`
`12:57.09`	`sag_ich_nicht`	`DSL being a jerk`
`12:57.16`	`N00bZXI_`	`same`
`12:58.16`	`sag_ich_nicht`	`I think it's worse if they send a SYN, you SYN-ACK, but they don't ACK back`
`12:58.42`	`norganna`	`heheh`
`12:59.02`	`norganna`	`although apparently it's possible to do a two-way connect, i heard`
`12:59.33`	`sag_ich_nicht`	`if both sides were to send a SYN-ACK at the same exact time i guess(maybe)`
`12:59.37`	`norganna`	`you can apperently connect with a SYN+ACK, and they SYN+ACK back for a ultra-fast connect`
`12:59.50`	`sag_ich_nicht`	`or that`
`13:00.35`	`norganna`	`actually, some DOS attacks use the SYN+ACK connect to speed up the attack, since it's completely legit TCP/IP`
`13:01.16`	`norganna`	`anyhow, I must away.. the weekend calls me`
`13:01.18`	`norganna`	`RST`
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`14:20.41`	`TS\|Skrom`	`morning`
`14:21.21`	`deltron`	`howdy`
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`14:34.15`	`SpiderFLS`	`hi`
`14:35.17`	`deltron`	`hi`
`14:35.33`	`SpiderFLS`	`i have a little problem with localization... how do i localize the "gains" in this code? string.find(arg1, "(%a) gains (%a)")`
`14:36.03`	`pastamancer`	`localize the entire string`
`14:36.18`	`pastamancer`	`string.find(arg1, L["(%a) gains (%a)")`
`14:37.09`	`SpiderFLS`	`hmm`
`14:37.41`	`SpiderFLS`	`i dont really understand what you do there o_O`
`14:37.52`	`pastamancer`	`you're using AceLocale, right?`
`14:38.05`	`SpiderFLS`	`no`
`14:38.12`	`pastamancer`	`oh wait, wrong channel`
`14:38.19`	`SpiderFLS`	`ok:D`
`14:38.26`	`foxlit`	`Your pattern is flawed either way`
`14:38.29`	`pastamancer`	`well, you can still localize the entire string`
`14:38.42`	`SpiderFLS`	`whats flawed about it?`
`14:38.58`	`foxlit`	`lua> string.find("Someone gains an aura.", "(%a) gains (%a)")`
`14:39.19`	`foxlit`	`7 15 e a`
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`14:40.58`	`SpiderFLS`	`and what should that tell me? o_O`
`14:42.04`	`foxlit`	`Just an example of what you're capturing :)`
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`14:43.37`	`TS\|Skrom`	`I like teknicolor`
`14:43.46`	`SpiderFLS`	`yes thats what it does^^ well i did that a long time ago and i needed a way to locate the positions of the letters...`
`14:43.57`	`TS\|Skrom`	`but I don't like that names don't get colored til you open the guild list or see the person every time`
`14:44.05`	`TS\|Skrom`	`is there one that does that, but saves the info ?`
`14:44.11`	`foxlit`	`Prat!`
`14:44.17`	`TS\|Skrom`	`ugh`
`14:44.18`	`foxlit`	`(which is evil)`
`14:44.22`	`SpiderFLS`	`so can you tell me how to lacalize it?`
`14:44.24`	`kaiden`	`prat's not evil!`
`14:44.30`	`kaiden`	`it's made from sunshine and skittles`
`14:44.31`	`foxlit`	`Prat's very evil.`
`14:44.31`	`TS\|Skrom`	`nothing against prat or other things but the only chat mod I want is the coloring`
`14:44.35`	`TS\|Skrom`	`I don't need anything else`
`14:44.45`	`nevcairiel`	`prat simply has way too much`
`14:44.48`	`foxlit`	`So disable all other modules? :)`
`14:44.55`	`deltron`	`I like prat :(`
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`14:45.01`	`Shirik\|zZz`	`sag_ich_nicht?`
`14:45.03`	`nevcairiel`	`i liked idChat`
`14:45.07`	`foxlit`	`I spent 4 hours figuring out how to work around Prat.`
`14:45.11`	`nevcairiel`	`not what has become of it :P`
`14:45.20`	`kaiden`	`nevcairiel, shouldn't you be working on bartender 4? (eyes you) ;p`
`14:45.26`	`nevcairiel`	`nah`
`14:45.30`	`nevcairiel`	`i am working on my linux box`
`14:45.31`	`kaiden`	`darn.. i tried`
`14:45.31`	`Shirik\|zZz`	`foxlit: missing the +`
`14:45.35`	`Shirik\|zZz`	`(%a+)`
`14:45.42`	`foxlit`	`(not my pattern)`
`14:45.44`	`Shirik\|zZz`	`I guess that';s SpiderFLS`
`14:46.11`	`SpiderFLS`	`how can i localize it?^^`
`14:46.28`	`Shirik`	`similarly it is generally recommended that those patterns actually be "([%S]+) gains ([%S]+)"`
`14:46.46`	`Shirik`	`you would make that a variable instead`
`14:46.47`	`foxlit`	`Blessing of Salvation?`
`14:46.47`	`Shirik`	`such as`
`14:47.05`	`Shirik`	`L["AURA_GAINED"] = "([%S]+) gains ([%S]+)"`
`14:47.22`	`Shirik`	`then string.find(arg1, L["AURA_GAINED"])`
`14:47.29`	`SpiderFLS`	`oh i see`
`14:47.37`	`SpiderFLS`	`<PROTECTED>`
`14:48.04`	`Shirik`	`np :)`
`14:48.17`	`krka`	`why the [] around %S?`
`14:49.20`	`nevcairiel`	`and why capital s ?`
`14:49.31`	`foxlit`	`complement to %s`
`14:49.35`	`Shirik`	`uh`
`14:49.37`	`krka`	`because it's inverse of %s`
`14:49.39`	`Shirik`	`I don't know why the []`
`14:49.40`	`Shirik`	`heh`
`14:49.42`	`nevcairiel`	`ah nvm`
`14:49.47`	`nevcairiel`	`i mixed the pattern up again`
`14:49.55`	`Shirik`	`because I was originally doing [^%s]+`
`14:49.55`	`nevcairiel`	`i should print those and tape to my screen`
`14:50.01`	`Shirik`	`and then I hit backspace and changed it to %S`
`14:50.05`	`Shirik`	`without removing the []`
`14:50.12`	`foxlit`	`sux!`
`14:50.32`	`foxlit`	`Bet that's like 0.00000001s of extra processing item`
`14:50.38`	`foxlit`	`s/item/time/`
`14:50.39`	`Shirik`	`sorry :(`
`14:50.42`	`Shirik`	`I make your addons slow`
`14:50.53`	`foxlit`	`Clearly you should use Ace :)`
`14:51.15`	`foxlit`	`(So when is LOLACERDX coming out?)`
`14:51.17`	`krka`	`i think ace automatically strips away redundant []`
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`14:54.29`	`Shirik`	`anyone here use firebug?`
`14:55.45`	`Shirik`	`rofl! I added a breakpoint, then ran the code I expected to bug out, and got "firefox.exe has encountered a problem and needs to close. We are sorry for the inconvenience."`
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`15:01.51`	`TS\|Skrom`	`combat log mod - name me a couple`
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`15:06.50`	`\|Jelly\|`	`So what's with the influx of holier than thou people on the forums being against compilations and people emulating other's uis?`
`15:07.04`	`\|Jelly\|`	`By the way...AWAKE! 8P`
`15:07.13`	`Shirik`	`hai`
`15:07.17`	`Shirik`	`yeah, I gave up really`
`15:07.30`	`N00bZXI`	`I'm gonna go sleep soon`
`15:07.36`	`N00bZXI`	`:\`
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`15:07.42`	`\|Jelly\|`	`Seriously...I haven't seen a truly unique UI in...forever?`
`15:07.43`	`TS\|Skrom`	`\|Jelly\| !!`
`15:07.54`	`\|Jelly\|`	`And even then, there's only a handfull.`
`15:07.56`	`N00bZXI`	`Neither have I`
`15:08.13`	`N00bZXI`	`All UI's look somewhat like something someone made some time ago`
`15:08.27`	`N00bZXI`	`s/All/Almost All`
`15:08.30`	`N00bZXI`	`bleh`
`15:08.41`	`Dakous`	`Nothing new under the sun.`
`15:08.42`	`N00bZXI`	`Almost all*`
`15:08.44`	`TS\|Skrom`	`\|Jelly\| hai2u`
`15:08.45`	`\|Jelly\|`	`GG. You can cluster shit at the bottom of your screen (like everyone else), call it unique and bitch at people that like how theirs look`
`15:08.56`	`\|Jelly\|`	`Hey Skrom. Sorry...I'm on a little rant here. lol`
`15:09.05`	`TS\|Skrom`	`I see`
`15:09.09`	`TS\|Skrom`	`logging in now to view it`
`15:09.33`	`\|Jelly\|`	`I haven't posted. lol`
`15:09.36`	`\|Jelly\|`	`Just reading`
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`15:12.10`	`\|Jelly\|`	`If "Of" is in here...gg retreating.`
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`15:15.34`	`N00bZXI`	`\|Jelly\|: :(`
`15:15.52`	`\|Jelly\|`	`8P`
`15:15.59`	`N00bZXI`	`I could link mine since I haven't seen any like it but I don't think -that'd- be a good idea..`
`15:16.13`	`\|Jelly\|`	`link it here. i wanna see it so i can rip it off.`
`15:16.25`	`\|Jelly\|`	`I MEAN...`
`15:16.26`	`\|Jelly\|`	`umm`
`15:16.28`	`\|Jelly\|`	`shit`
`15:16.55`	`N00bZXI`	`I can link last SS although no player/target frame anymore, using hud only`
`15:17.18`	`N00bZXI`	`actually, I'd rather not, since more than that has changed`
`15:17.23`	`\|Jelly\|`	`still trying to be minimalist, eh?`
`15:18.45`	`N00bZXI`	`...if you remember why are you asking for a SS`
`15:18.45`	`\|Jelly\|`	`Cause I change my UI almost weekly.`
`15:18.50`	`foxlit`	`howwwible!`
`15:18.57`	`N00bZXI`	`I'`
`15:19.23`	`N00bZXI`	`'ve used the same UI (with a few things changing here and there) for.. as long as I can remember?`
`15:19.42`	`\|Jelly\|`	`Obviously not...`
`15:19.44`	`N00bZXI`	`Actually, I've used it since my rogue, and that's quite a long time ago`
`15:19.54`	`\|Jelly\|`	`...since so many things have changed that you'd rather not link an old screenshot.`
`15:20.20`	`\|Jelly\|`	`But irregardless, I'm not trying to argue with you. 8P`
`15:20.21`	`N00bZXI`	`http://ctscreens.net/2497`
`15:20.23`	`N00bZXI`	`there you go`
`15:20.35`	`\|Jelly\|`	`I'm not even going to click on it now.`
`15:20.37`	`\|Jelly\|`	`!!!`
`15:21.21`	`TS\|Skrom`	`I will`
`15:21.43`	`N00bZXI`	`That can't be older than 1.12`
`15:21.46`	`TS\|Skrom`	`nice looking, simple`
`15:22.04`	`TS\|Skrom`	`You've got too many buttons on your bar for a rogue though`
`15:22.14`	`N00bZXI`	`Not a rogue anymore`
`15:22.33`	`N00bZXI`	`That toon's now 70 and only for posting on forums`
`15:25.04`	`sag_ich_nicht`	`[16:45] <Shirik\|zZz> sag_ich_nicht? <-- ping`
`15:25.11`	`Shirik`	`pong?`
`15:25.18`	`sag_ich_nicht`	`hello Shirik`
`15:25.29`	`Shirik`	`062:442:10 12�sag_ich_nicht12� Shirik\|zZz`
`15:25.29`	`Shirik`	`12[#wowi-lounge12] - 12[29/06/200712]`
`15:25.30`	`Shirik`	`hi`
`15:26.02`	`sag_ich_nicht`	`because we were talking about position maps in instances and syncing a few days ago`
`15:26.24`	`sag_ich_nicht`	`well, take a look at GPSlib(or for a more pratical[and awesome] work, dungeoncrawler)`
`15:26.56`	`sag_ich_nicht`	`(wowace svn :P)`
`15:27.26`	`Shirik`	`ok`
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`15:36.03`	`sag_ich_nicht`	`heh`
`15:37.14`	`Shirik`	`I don't like how he uses 140 columns before a line break`
`15:37.17`	`Shirik`	`in his comments`
`15:37.25`	`Shirik`	`i.e., assuming people are running at 1280x1024 :P`
`15:38.06`	`TS\|Skrom`	`wow, trimmed my stuff down to 113 mod folders`
`15:38.18`	`TS\|Skrom`	`yay lol`
`15:38.24`	`N00bZXI`	`:O`
`15:38.33`	`Antiarc\|Work`	`1920x1200 for life, yo`
`15:38.49`	`sag_ich_nicht`	`Display Resolution: 1680x1050x32bpp 60Hz`
`15:39.18`	`N00bZXI`	`I wanted to get a 1024x768 monitor after using a laptop for a few years but couldn't find one, was too small apparantly`
`15:39.33`	`N00bZXI`	`Using 1280x1024 atm`
`15:39.34`	`Shirik`	`that's um`
`15:39.36`	`Shirik`	`pretty impressive actually`
`15:39.46`	`Josh_Borke`	`Shirik: his gpslib?`
`15:39.47`	`Josh_Borke`	`yea it is`
`15:39.52`	`Shirik`	`yeah`
`15:39.53`	`Josh_Borke`	`i still don't understand it`
`15:39.54`	`\|Jelly\|`	`I've never seen a monitor that wouldn't go to 1024x768. lol`
`15:40.28`	`sag_ich_nicht`	`[17:39] <Josh_Borke> Shirik: his gpslib? <--not mine, but i stumbled upon it :P`
`15:40.33`	`N00bZXI`	`I mean natively`
`15:40.40`	`Josh_Borke`	`yea, i know who wrote it`
`15:41.02`	`deltron`	`i'm 80x24!`
`15:41.15`	`Shirik`	`hopefully that's col x lines`
`15:41.17`	`Shirik`	`and not pixels`
`15:41.18`	`deltron`	`:)`
`15:41.20`	`deltron`	`yeah`
`15:41.36`	`Cide`	`http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tBj4Ny19vfQ`
`15:41.40`	`Shirik`	`but only reason I commented on that is because it's generally considered good practice to not go beyond 80 columns`
`15:41.47`	`Shirik`	`most IDEs even have a line at 80 so you don't pass it`
`15:41.54`	`Cide`	`yep`
`15:42.02`	`Josh_Borke`	`meh, i do whatever is convenient :-)`
`15:42.33`	`Shirik`	`but see that's the point, 80 is convenient for everyone; you will always (usually) have that width no matter what resolution you're in, whether you're in a text-based environment or a graphical one, etc.`
`15:42.37`	`\|Jelly\|`	`cog\|work: I <3 you`
`15:42.46`	`cog\|work`	`I <3 me too`
`15:42.47`	`Shirik`	`i.e., myself whom had to scroll every 2 lines to read his comments :P`
`15:42.50`	`Shirik`	`rofl`
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`15:43.28`	`\|Jelly\|`	`I'm waiting for a response on that.`
`15:43.34`	`\|Jelly\|`	`Cause IMO, you nailed this conversation.`
`15:43.44`	`sag_ich_nicht`	`Shirik just use autowrap with wrapmarkers :P`
`15:44.00`	`Hador`	`Hi`
`15:44.06`	`cog\|work`	`hello`
`15:44.06`	`\|Jelly\|`	`Hi`
`15:44.10`	`Shirik`	`hi`
`15:44.52`	`Shirik`	`so \|Jelly\|`
`15:44.54`	`Shirik`	`what did cog\|work do?`
`15:44.55`	`\|Jelly\|`	`waits for the question to ask a question`
`15:45.00`	`\|Jelly\|`	`http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=114722044&sid=1&pageNo=2`
`15:45.26`	`cog\|work`	`s/g/j/`
`15:46.26`	`Hador`	`I've got a little question obout programming a WoW-addon: is it possible to overwrite the wow-invite function with an function in my own addon?`
`15:46.36`	`Shirik`	`yes`
`15:46.49`	`Hador`	`how is it possible ;-)`
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`15:46.50`	`Shirik`	`but you have to be aware of the implications of that`
`15:47.00`	`cog\|work`	`http://www.wowwiki.com/Category:HOWTOs`
`15:47.07`	`cog\|work`	`look under H`
`15:47.14`	`N00bZXI`	`You can except anytime anything else calls it it could cause problems`
`15:47.14`	`cog\|work`	`for hooking functions`
`15:47.21`	`N00bZXI`	`Since other addons don't expect it be overwritten`
`15:47.24`	`Shirik`	`you're intending to do InviteUnit() ?`
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`15:51.20`	`\|Jelly\|`	`lol`
`15:51.34`	`Hador`	`let me discribe wat i want to do`
`15:51.39`	`\|Jelly\|`	`And again "Of" makes a dildo of himself.`
`15:51.56`	`Shirik`	`I never seen him before`
`15:52.07`	`\|Jelly\|`	`Oh, I meant in one thread.`
`15:52.09`	`Hador`	`ive got a function who sends to the party-leader a request to invite some player`
`15:52.32`	`Shirik`	`oh`
`15:52.37`	`Hador`	`this function is now called by the slash-cammand /inviter xy`
`15:52.48`	`Shirik`	`ok, so how does it send that request?`
`15:52.52`	`N00bZXI`	`You want it to be called by invite instead?`
`15:52.53`	`Shirik`	`SendAddonMessage() ?`
`15:53.16`	`N00bZXI`	`You might want to hook the slash command instead (assuming it's not secure)`
`15:54.00`	`Hador`	`but this function should be called when the original slash-commands for the invitation of an player (/i /inv /invite, ...) are typed`
`15:54.09`	`Shirik`	`ah`
`15:54.20`	`Hador`	`and if someone rightclicked on an caracter and selects invite`
`15:54.24`	`Shirik`	`well you can hook InviteUnit as you originally intended`
`15:54.43`	`Shirik`	`that function doesn't need to be secure so`
`15:55.16`	`Hador`	`so inviteunit is directly called by the slashcommands?`
`15:55.25`	`Shirik`	`should be`
`15:55.30`	`Shirik`	`though there's a way to find out`
`15:55.32`	`Hador`	`and the rightclick?`
`15:55.53`	`Shirik`	`again, should be, but there's a way to find out for sure`
`15:56.45`	`Hador`	`k i try it (first i let wow write s.th. in the chat) than i should see if this is right`
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`15:59.12`	`Hador`	`thx for help`
`15:59.20`	`Hador`	`i'll try it`
`15:59.24`	`Shirik`	`=)`
`15:59.28`	`Shirik`	`nice idea btw`
`16:01.01`	`sag_ich_nicht`	`Shirik`
`16:01.16`	`sag_ich_nicht`	`wait`
`16:01.16`	`sag_ich_nicht`	`nvm`
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`16:01.34`	`Hador`	`i think in the next days i will come here again and ask one mor question, as i momentary dont now how to programm a countdown because there is now timer in wow. But it also might be that i will find it out by myself ;-)`
`16:01.41`	`Hador`	`cu`
`16:03.28`	`Shirik`	`take care :)`
`16:05.50`	`Shirik`	`in other news, a DoS (application crash) vulnerability has been found in RDX.Cid today!`
`16:05.56`	`Shirik`	`fun times`
`16:07.52`	`Josh_Borke`	`gj`
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`16:08.40`	`Shirik`	`\|Jelly\|: My circles aren't round enough`
`16:08.55`	`deltron`	`doh`
`16:08.56`	`Shirik`	`I don't want my circumference/diameter to == 3.14`
`16:09.29`	`Shirik`	`my ratio of circumference to diameter should be equal to the pi'th root of pi ^ pi`
`16:09.56`	`\|Jelly\|`	`Shirik: I hate you so bad.`
`16:12.23`	`Shirik`	`I know :)`
`16:12.35`	`Shirik`	`I'm just trying to blow time while my forums are rebuilt`
`16:12.40`	`\|Jelly\|`	`But hate being the cycle that is it; <333`
`16:12.42`	`Shirik`	`I have to recount/rebuild every single post on the forums`
`16:12.48`	`Shirik`	`and we have over 100k posts`
`16:12.51`	`\|Jelly\|`	`umm. no?`
`16:12.52`	`Shirik`	`and this is taking forever`
`16:12.53`	`\|Jelly\|`	`lol`
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`16:13.25`	`Shirik`	`maybe I should work on that rat kill counter`
`16:13.27`	`Shirik`	`but I suck at GUIs`
`16:13.37`	`\|Jelly\|`	`I think you should work on.`
`16:13.39`	`\|Jelly\|`	`...`
`16:13.41`	`\|Jelly\|`	`errm...`
`16:13.43`	`\|Jelly\|`	`nevermind`
`16:14.00`	`Shirik`	`think "Exterminator" is a good name?`
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`16:14.13`	`\|Jelly\|`	`Could it count all "critters" ?`
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`16:14.24`	`Shirik`	`ya`
`16:14.27`	`Shirik`	`that's what it will do`
`16:14.31`	`\|Jelly\|`	`Cause in that case, yeah.`
`16:14.38`	`cog\|work`	`should only count level one critters imo`
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`16:14.55`	`cog\|work`	`plus cows`
`16:14.57`	`Shirik`	`morning Cairenn`
`16:14.57`	`Kaelten`	`g'morning`
`16:15.02`	`Shirik`	`it will be only lv 1 critters`
`16:15.04`	`Cairenn`	`hi again`
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`16:15.10`	`Shirik`	`cows?`
`16:15.16`	`cog\|work`	`aren't cows like level 5?`
`16:15.17`	`\|Jelly\|`	`Yes. Cows.`
`16:15.58`	`Shirik`	`I love how ctrl+a no longer selects all`
`16:15.58`	`Shirik`	`wtf`
`16:16.08`	`Shirik`	`oh no`
`16:16.19`	`Shirik`	`just my selection highlight for some reason is invisible`
`16:16.19`	`Shirik`	`wtf`
`16:17.14`	`\|Jelly\|`	`i hate herbalism in the face`
`16:24.02`	`\|Jelly\|`	`I love how it's only the low level alts that attempt to be smartasses. I think by default, the forums should use your highest /played character. !`
`16:24.15`	`Shirik`	`then I couldn't be a BE :(`
`16:24.24`	`\|Jelly\|`	`small price to pay`
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`16:28.32`	`TS\|Skrom`	`I'm gonna go log into my lowest alt and make an @\|Jelly\| thread, brb`
`16:28.38`	`\|Jelly\|`	`rofl`
`16:29.07`	`TS\|Skrom`	`today's friday`
`16:29.08`	`TS\|Skrom`	`glee`
`16:29.43`	`\|Jelly\|`	`8(`
`16:29.43`	`Shirik`	`ouch`
`16:29.57`	`\|Jelly\|`	`I love you too, cog.`
`16:30.23`	`TS\|Skrom`	`how could you, he's so... gnomish`
`16:30.57`	`\|Jelly\|`	`Ever heard of Gnome Punting?`
`16:30.59`	`\|Jelly\|`	`<3`
`16:31.11`	`TS\|Skrom`	`touche`
`16:31.11`	`cog\|work`	`the drillmaster did that to me a few times...`
`16:31.11`	`\|Jelly\|`	`I go like his nasty comb over. lol`
`16:31.16`	`\|Jelly\|`	`s/go/do/`
`16:31.25`	`cog\|work`	`:(`
`16:31.37`	`cog\|work`	`that makes me wish even more that the forums used our actual avatars`
`16:32.08`	`cog\|work`	`at least just the basic head appearance so they don't bog down the servers`
`16:32.38`	`cog\|work`	`there can't be THAT many combinations of facial features, skin tone, etc...`
`16:33.05`	`\|Jelly\|`	`oh wait`
`16:33.15`	`\|Jelly\|`	`since you hit 70, it doesn't use the sex combover anymore!`
`16:34.05`	`cog\|work`	`Here you go, \|Jelly\|: http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=43425211`
`16:34.27`	`\|Jelly\|`	`YEAH!`
`16:35.37`	`\|Jelly\|`	`Hawt beard too.`
`16:36.09`	`cog\|work`	`The real me: http://cogwheel.wowinterface.com/portal.php (10 levels ago, anyway)`
`16:36.21`	`\|Jelly\|`	`lol`
`16:37.34`	`cog\|work`	`I should take a new shot at Toshley's`
`16:38.31`	`[dRaCo]`	`does overheal produce aggro?`
`16:38.38`	`cog\|work`	`no`
`16:39.13`	`cog\|work`	`and the only reason I know this is because of the recent KTM drama which inspired me to read Kenco's article on wowwiki last week ><`
`16:39.29`	`\|Jelly\|`	`KTM drama?!`
`16:39.41`	`Arrowmaster`	`you dont know about the ktm drama?`
`16:39.59`	`Josh_Borke`	`overheal does not cause aggro (which intuitively makes sense)`
`16:40.03`	`[dRaCo]`	`then heal aggro is always the tank's fault :>`
`16:40.49`	`Cide`	`can you link to kenco's article?`
`16:40.59`	`cog\|work`	`looking for it...`
`16:41.35`	`cog\|work`	`\|Jelly\|: drama: http://www-en.curse-gaming.com/downloads/details/4204/?cpage=12 start with Leprosy's post near the bottom`
`16:42.12`	`cog\|work`	`Cide: http://www.wowwiki.com/Formulas:Kencos_Research`
`16:42.22`	`Cide`	`thanks, cog\|work :)`
`16:42.27`	`Shirik`	`""From today, users will be asked to give their real name and social security number before being allowed to write their postings," said a spokesman of Daum, one of the country's top portals which boasts of 38 million users."`
`16:42.32`	`cog\|work`	`not sure if any of it has changed yet`
`16:42.39`	`cog\|work`	`s/yet/since then/`
`16:42.41`	`Shirik`	`http://www.guardianhq.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=12591`
`16:45.05`	`TS\|Skrom`	`http://s74.photobucket.com/albums/i257/derick_donnel/?action=view&current=currentui.jpg`
`16:45.08`	`TS\|Skrom`	`wheee`
`16:45.52`	`Wobin`	`><`
`16:45.59`	`Wobin`	`not more KencoCrap`
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`16:46.54`	`cog\|work`	`it's a fun read if you don't care either way :P`
`16:47.07`	`Wobin`	`It's painful`
`16:47.23`	`Wobin`	`If Kenco were even the slightest bit civil, it might be worthwhile`
`16:47.39`	`cog\|work`	`that's what makes it amusing to me XD`
`16:47.40`	`\|Jelly\|`	`I'm tired of people telling me to calm down because I tell them to use their common sense.`
`16:47.41`	`Wobin`	`but I'm completely disregarding anything he says just because he's a compelte arse`
`16:48.00`	`Wobin`	`He can argue til he's blue in the face, but I won't believe a single thing he says`
`16:48.09`	`Wobin`	`Much like his attitude to everyone else`
`16:48.13`	`Wobin`	`but with less insulting`
`16:48.33`	`TS\|Skrom`	`\|Jelly\| calm down!`
`16:49.50`	`\|Jelly\|`	`I've yet to see one @Jelly thread!`
`16:50.06`	`Wobin`	`Actually Cog, what I'd like is for Bag_Update to fire reliably =P`
`16:51.01`	`Wobin`	`On a completely different note =P (in reference to that changes thread)`
`16:51.45`	`cog\|work`	`if it fires reliably enough to work with the default UI, i wouldn't hold my breath :P`
`16:52.32`	`Wobin`	`I've moved a lot of objects in the bag and not had a reliable equal number of bag_events returned`
`16:52.45`	`Wobin`	`There are always some being dropped somewhere`
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`16:53.19`	`Josh_Borke`	`wobin: you fail ;-P just poll`
`16:53.46`	`Wobin`	`oh of course`
`16:53.49`	`Wobin`	`silly.`
`16:54.26`	`Valaron\|Work`	`Hmm`
`16:54.46`	`Valaron\|Work`	`Hunter does not always equal win`
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`16:55.08`	`TS\|Skrom`	`quickest way to run out of mana on a warlock: back to back to back shadow trance`
`16:56.24`	`cog\|work`	`qft`
`16:56.33`	`cog\|work`	`one of the quickest to steal aggro, too`
`16:57.21`	`TS\|Skrom`	`heh yeah, don't have to worry about it when I'm soloing, but then again I stopped trying to have a pet tank for me at level 20`
`16:57.27`	`TS\|Skrom`	`or was it 30`
`16:57.29`	`TS\|Skrom`	`yeah 30`
`16:57.56`	`cog\|work`	`demonology + affliction = win for leveling`
`16:58.17`	`TS\|Skrom`	`got a link to a spec?`
`16:58.40`	`TS\|Skrom`	`I went through a few iterations as I leveled this loc`
`16:58.40`	`cog\|work`	`what level are you now?`
`16:58.42`	`TS\|Skrom`	`58`
`16:59.15`	`cog\|work`	`this might actually be relevant for you then ;) http://armory.worldofwarcraft.com/#character-talents.xml?r=Shadowsong&n=Carmon`
`16:59.40`	`cog\|work`	`I'd bring demo up to soul link, then switch to affliction`
`17:00.07`	`cog\|work`	`some of my affliction talents are filler for siphon life`
`17:00.08`	`TS\|Skrom`	`see i just can't see how that'd be more efficient then drain tanking and dark pact`
`17:01.18`	`cog\|work`	`helps to have fel armor...`
`17:01.37`	`TS\|Skrom`	`http://armory.worldofwarcraft.com/#character-sheet.xml?r=Uldaman&n=Phi`
`17:01.44`	`cog\|work`	`I have virtually no downtime between siphon & drain life`
`17:01.48`	`TS\|Skrom`	`there's me, though I just got the staff of twin words so add 14 to the spell damage XD`
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`17:02.11`	`TS\|Skrom`	`I have virtually no downtime either, and my pet does 0 damage.`
`17:02.21`	`TS\|Skrom`	`he's just there for the hp buff and for me to drain his mana`
`17:02.29`	`TS\|Skrom`	`my widdle invincible mana battery <3`
`17:02.49`	`cog\|work`	`I played a hunter before i played a 'lock so I may be a bit biased in using my VW for tanking :P`
`17:02.58`	`TS\|Skrom`	`ahh`
`17:03.10`	`TS\|Skrom`	`yeah i've not used the void since level 20 XD`
`17:03.14`	`TS\|Skrom`	`not in any real sense`
`17:03.23`	`TS\|Skrom`	`maybe once or twice when I needed a shield`
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`17:14.45`	`TS\|Skrom`	`my thought was always... if I want to kill things fast then I need to do damage. if i do damage, the void will NOT be holding aggro`
`17:15.00`	`TS\|Skrom`	`if the void's not holding aggro I may as well not use it since it's own damage is so anemic`
`17:15.38`	`Antiarc\|Work`	`The VW's torment scales extraordinarily slowly`
`17:15.40`	`TS\|Skrom`	`so from around 20-40 I just used succy for damage while I tanked, then switched to imp at 40 and started dark pacting XD`
`17:15.45`	`Antiarc\|Work`	`I'm currently collecting data on that right now.`
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`17:25.47`	`zenzelezz`	`this sounds like a fun night. "don't we need a priest for Moroes?" "3x palas for fear"`
`17:25.57`	`*** join/#wowi-lounge Lunessa (n=chatzill@129.7.92.49)`
`17:26.09`	`Antiarc\|Work`	`Kiting works out just as well for the melee adds`
`17:37.25`	`Kaydeethree`	`meh, we've killed moroes without priests before. pally fears help, kiting/trapping helps more`
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`17:38.00`	`\|Jelly\|`	`<3 being the only priest`
`17:38.41`	`deltron`	`<3 being the only resto shaman`
`17:38.42`	`deltron`	`:D`
`17:41.54`	`Lunessa`	`</3 Being the only priest.`
`17:42.36`	`deltron`	`hehe`
`17:43.28`	`cog\|work`	`I want to make a website that starts with ww instead of www to mess with peoples' heads`
`17:44.25`	`deltron`	`I hate it when sites don't have their dns set up, and make it so you HAVE to type in www.`
`17:45.08`	`cog\|work`	`yeah... even worse, my guild's website uses www for the normal site... take it off, and you just get the calendar :\|`
`17:45.45`	`deltron`	`heh I need to fix dns on my site, add in a forums. raid. etc`
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`17:48.07`	`Lunessa`	`ZOMG Cog - Who is the site admin? Pummel them with a FISH.`
`17:48.59`	`cog\|work`	`I think i shall.`
`17:49.23`	`Lunessa`	`A big fish. Preferably one that has been left out a day or three.`
`17:49.53`	`Nom-`	`yay finally got my second level 70`
`17:50.06`	`Nom-`	`now gotta spend all day tomorrow questing to makes some gold lol`
`17:50.07`	`Nom-`	`nite`
`17:50.44`	`deltron`	`hehe cya`
`17:57.12`	`Shirik`	`I'm disappointed`
`17:57.20`	`Shirik`	`exterminator doesn't even show up on performancefu`
`17:57.31`	`Shirik`	`with both memory usage and cpu profiling enabled`
`17:57.33`	`\|Jelly\|`	`rofl`
`17:58.04`	`Shirik`	`it probably would with 40 peope in raid, dunno`
`17:58.42`	`Shirik`	`wtf!`
`17:58.47`	`Shirik`	`I'm about to kill this squirrel`
`17:58.52`	`Shirik`	`and one of the wolves comes over and kills it`
`17:58.57`	`N00bZXI`	`rofl`
`17:59.02`	`cog\|work`	`The bigest CPU hog of the addons I use is RedRange ><`
`17:59.06`	`Shirik`	`do you have any idea how hard they are to find when you're looking for them?!`
`17:59.13`	`N00bZXI`	`Shirik: I've got to say owned.`
`17:59.33`	`Lunessa`	`PWNT by a wolf!`
`18:00.40`	`*** part/#wowi-lounge Cairenn (n=Karen@MMOI/Administratrix/Cairenn)`
`18:04.29`	`\|Jelly\|`	`http://www.thesmokinggun.com/graphics/art3/0629071facemugs10.jpg -- What do you think of when you see that picture?`
`18:04.39`	`Antiarc\|Work`	`For the win.`
`18:04.50`	`cog\|work`	`I think of Nip/Tuck`
`18:06.34`	`N00bZXI`	`I think 'what am I supposed to think'`
`18:07.06`	`cog\|work`	`Wow....`
`18:07.13`	`\|Jelly\|`	`?`
`18:07.34`	`cog\|work`	`I'm not the only one to feel weird about FTL being printed all over fruit of the loom underwear...`
`18:08.15`	`cog\|work`	`http://bash.org/?736707`
`18:08.17`	`\|Jelly\|`	`haha`
`18:08.32`	`zenzelezz`	`agreed, underwear FTL`
`18:08.35`	`Lunessa`	`LOL`
`18:08.51`	`Lunessa`	`Tighty-Whities FTL! LOL`
`18:09.00`	`N00bZXI`	`ROFL`
`18:09.22`	`\|Jelly\|`	`Just imagine what someone else might think when they're...coming off.`
`18:10.15`	`Shirik`	`so there's a critter named "Talubk"`
`18:15.00`	`\|Jelly\|`	`?`
`18:15.15`	`cog\|work`	`another one that we didn't already know about? :P`
`18:16.26`	`Lunessa`	`No, I've been out for a few days and I'm catching up.`
`18:17.06`	`cog\|work`	`http://bash.org/?632703 <----- The funny thing is, most people think the responder is the stupid one`
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`18:19.09`	`Lunessa`	`LOL`
`18:19.31`	`Lunessa`	`It's wickedly smart - points out the mathematical fallacy.`
`18:20.13`	`N00bZXI`	`I notice something different`
`18:21.14`	`N00bZXI`	`First he says the average person is dumb, then he says most of them are dumber than that. So who's they?`
`18:21.35`	`\|Jelly\|`	`What's the /script for "tab" ?`
`18:21.52`	`cog\|work`	`<PROTECTED>`
`18:22.02`	`N00bZXI`	`TargetNearestEnemy()?`
`18:22.45`	`Shirik`	`TargetNearestEnemy() is protected`
`18:22.47`	`cog\|work`	`you can't use that`
`18:23.52`	`N00bZXI`	`Right`
`18:25.03`	`TS\|Skrom`	`cog\|work you are a wee bit grouchy today, eh?`
`18:25.10`	`cog\|work`	`nah`
`18:25.27`	`TS\|Skrom`	`good use of PEBKAC though`
`18:25.36`	`cog\|work`	`i'm like that all the time :P`
`18:25.45`	`cog\|work`	`I just haven't been trolling the forums as much recently`
`18:26.07`	`\|Jelly\|`	`I guess I'm totally missing it.`
`18:26.30`	`cog\|work`	`Also, I have Lunessa & \|Jelly\| to do the reaming for me now :P`
`18:28.33`	`\|Jelly\|`	`<3`
`18:29.17`	`TS\|Skrom`	`wtf... why did this guy take a screenshot... of windows picture and fax viewer... of the screenshot he wants us to look at...`
`18:29.33`	`Lunessa`	`lol`
`18:29.35`	`cog\|work`	`probably doesn't know how to convert from tiff`
`18:30.08`	`\|Jelly\|`	`wtf...where are these phantom threads?!`
`18:31.57`	`TS\|Skrom`	`http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=114762235&sid=1`
`18:32.03`	`TS\|Skrom`	`you reading the right forum, missy?`
`18:32.16`	`TS\|Skrom`	`http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=114721586&sid=1`
`18:32.18`	`\|Jelly\|`	`No. I didn't read that. TLDR.`
`18:32.41`	`\|Jelly\|`	`Blocks of text online are hell on my eyes so I don't try.`
`18:32.44`	`deltron`	`tl;dr`
`18:33.20`	`TS\|Skrom`	`LUA`
`18:33.25`	`Lopeppeppy`	`I was kind to Mr. WTF. In spite of that horrible picture-of-picture-inside-picture crap.`
`18:33.25`	`TS\|Skrom`	`drat`
`18:33.38`	`\|Jelly\|`	`Peppy! <333`
`18:33.51`	`\|Jelly\|`	`That's actually the one I wanted to see. rofl`
`18:33.52`	`Lopeppeppy`	`Just seein' me, \|Jelly\|? hugs`
`18:33.54`	`TS\|Skrom`	`it was like MC Esher, "the eternal jackass" or something`
`18:34.04`	`\|Jelly\|`	`Yeah. hug 8)`
`18:34.06`	`deltron`	`that guy took a picture of a screenshot?`
`18:34.10`	`TS\|Skrom`	`yep`
`18:34.24`	`TS\|Skrom`	`took a windows screenshot of the ingame screen shot loaded in the picture viewer`
`18:34.31`	`\|Jelly\|`	`lol. ok`
`18:34.38`	`\|Jelly\|`	`now i see what you're talkinga bout.`
`18:34.42`	`Lopeppeppy`	`And it's so small that I can't tell if there's a voidwalker in the picture, or a bit of jelly on his screen.`
`18:34.55`	`\|Jelly\|`	`That was actually the post that incited my mini-rant earlier.`
`18:35.09`	`TS\|Skrom`	`I figured actually`
`18:35.24`	`Lopeppeppy`	`Maybe I missed the rant? Or was that in the other thread TS\|Skrom linked...`
`18:35.37`	`TS\|Skrom`	`what would have been better is if he used his digital camera to take a picture of his screenshot of his screenshot in the viewer`
`18:35.44`	`Lunessa`	`Wow... Nite... is a raging psycho!`
`18:35.46`	`\|Jelly\|`	`no, it was an IRC rant...I think you missed it`
`18:35.55`	`Lopeppeppy`	`Ooooh! TS\|Skrom, you should go tell him that.`
`18:36.08`	`TS\|Skrom`	`and then printed it out and ran it through a copier then scanned it into a pdf`
`18:36.12`	`Lopeppeppy`	`Lunessa.. I think I've seen Nite on another forum being the same psycho.`
`18:36.30`	`\|Jelly\|`	`I almost used the c-word on her.`
`18:36.57`	`Lopeppeppy`	`Not sure she goes that far, 'cause it's just words. I have to be able to punch someone right in the face if I'm going that far.`
`18:36.59`	`Lunessa`	`I just wish I had some of the artistic talent other people have. My current UI layout looks like le poop.`
`18:37.00`	`TS\|Skrom`	`herstory`
`18:37.29`	`Lunessa`	`... right in the FACE.`
`18:37.32`	`Valaron\|Work`	`Your UI is what you make of it.`
`18:37.44`	`Lopeppeppy`	`Mine is... functional for me, Lunessa, but my crashing problems prevent me from doing the eePanels refining and beautification I was hoping for. It's like.... a virtual "no watering" zone right now.`
`18:38.10`	`\|Jelly\|`	`Cog...go look at her UI`
`18:38.41`	`Lunessa`	`Right now I have a 3 "blocks" to my layout.`
`18:38.42`	`Antiarc\|Work`	`I should post http://img329.imageshack.us/my.php?image=uiofchampionsjh4.jpg in one of those threads.`
`18:38.59`	`Lopeppeppy`	`I like the purple....if I liked purple....`
`18:38.59`	`Lunessa`	`And it's functional, and even handy. But not pretty.`
`18:39.08`	`\|Jelly\|`	`HOLY SHIT`
`18:39.46`	`Lopeppeppy`	`Antiarc.... very evil. But I love it, even if half the idiots would treat it as serious and miss the point entirely.`
`18:40.12`	`\|Jelly\|`	`No really, please post that.`
`18:40.16`	`\|Jelly\|`	`Please.`
`18:40.18`	`\|Jelly\|`	`Or I will!`
`18:40.23`	`Lopeppeppy`	`In the "original" thread!`
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`18:40.36`	`\|Jelly\|`	`8P`
`18:40.56`	`Lopeppeppy`	`'cause it's totally unique. :P`
`18:41.19`	`Kaydeethree`	`my gods... I've seen bad UIs`
`18:41.22`	`TS\|Skrom`	`what does "designed from scratch by myself" mean exactly?`
`18:41.25`	`Kaydeethree`	`think that one takes the cake`
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`18:41.33`	`TS\|Skrom`	`I see... pitbull, um... fubar...`
`18:41.40`	`TS\|Skrom`	`I don't think nite coded those`
`18:41.49`	`\|Jelly\|`	`I think it's the "from scratch" part that gets her.`
`18:41.51`	`TS\|Skrom`	`could be wrong of course but i'm pretty sure I'm not! (sarcasn)`
`18:42.00`	`Lopeppeppy`	`Designed from scratch should mean that your UI is pencil and paper, no more game screen for joo?`
`18:42.08`	`TS\|Skrom`	`haw`
`18:42.13`	`Antiarc\|Work`	`Heheh, if it makes you all feel better, that's my "profiling Omen in a raid situation" UI :P`
`18:42.28`	`\|Jelly\|`	`We all think you should post it.`
`18:42.32`	`TS\|Skrom`	`http://img400.imageshack.us/my.php?image=niteuimq8.jpg <-- that's the screenshot I'm referring to btw`
`18:42.33`	`Antiarc\|Work`	`k, fine, posting :P`
`18:43.03`	`\|Jelly\|`	`I like my version of it better.`
`18:43.14`	`TS\|Skrom`	`she really has a "thing" about not completing things doesn't she`
`18:43.15`	`Lunessa`	`There is nothing original about that. It's just lots of gradient and art.`
`18:43.19`	`\|Jelly\|`	`I just need to figure out what the hell to do about party frames.`
`18:43.20`	`TS\|Skrom`	`ever single window kinda trails off.`
`18:43.28`	`TS\|Skrom`	`she was prolly a very unfocused child`
`18:43.58`	`Lopeppeppy`	`I like edges. I was a very neat child.`
`18:44.06`	`TS\|Skrom`	`someone should wap her upsdide the head with a window border`
`18:44.22`	`Antiarc\|Work`	`http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=110465367&postId=1147420970&sid=1#370`
`18:44.26`	`Antiarc\|Work`	`You're all welcome :P`
`18:44.28`	`Lopeppeppy`	`Or punch her in the face like I wanted to.`
`18:44.29`	`\|Jelly\|`	`hahahaha`
`18:44.41`	`TS\|Skrom`	`AHHHHH`
`18:44.55`	`\|Jelly\|`	`So everyone wants to punch me in the face too? 8(`
`18:45.03`	`Lopeppeppy`	`No... not you!`
`18:45.04`	`sag_ich_nicht`	`\|Jelly\| nothing personal`
`18:45.10`	`sag_ich_nicht`	`i want to punch everyone in the face`
`18:45.12`	`sag_ich_nicht`	`so not your fault`
`18:45.12`	`sag_ich_nicht`	`:)`
`18:45.25`	`TS\|Skrom`	`what the.... your omen and the stuff under it...`
`18:45.26`	`\|Jelly\|`	`Eh. Peppy will bite you.`
`18:45.34`	`TS\|Skrom`	`looks different then my omen (and I don't now what that stuff is)`
`18:45.44`	`Antiarc\|Work`	`The stuff under it is Violation`
`18:45.48`	`Lunessa`	`Nah \|Jelly\| I want to see you drunk and passed out in a pool of spilled beer so we can shave your head, paint it blue and post it on YouTube.`
`18:45.55`	`Antiarc\|Work`	`Omen's fully skinnable so I may just be using different display settings than you.`
`18:46.04`	`\|Jelly\|`	`Well. Drive your happy ass up here.`
`18:46.10`	`TS\|Skrom`	`oh i`
`18:46.12`	`TS\|Skrom`	`see`
`18:46.15`	`Lopeppeppy`	`..... Lunessa is now Ruler of Evil.`
`18:46.16`	`Antiarc\|Work`	`That screen's also a week old, so that's like 341 Omen commits old.`
`18:46.20`	`TS\|Skrom`	`violation eh?`
`18:46.34`	`TS\|Skrom`	`running comparisons or somethign?`
`18:46.38`	`mikma`	`hehe nice ui's there`
`18:47.01`	`Shirik`	`341?`
`18:47.01`	`Shirik`	`wtf`
`18:47.08`	`Shirik`	`RDX hasn't had that many in its lifetime`
`18:47.10`	`Antiarc\|Work`	`Hyperbole :P`
`18:47.12`	`TS\|Skrom`	`rogues get threat from energy gain?`
`18:47.15`	`Shirik`	`oh ><`
`18:47.17`	`Antiarc\|Work`	`That's the theory.`
`18:47.18`	`Lunessa`	`:D`
`18:47.30`	`TS\|Skrom`	`wow that's kinda silly`
`18:47.32`	`Antiarc\|Work`	`Thought between Threat and Omen I've got several hundred commits.`
`18:47.36`	`Lopeppeppy`	`I Feint just for standing still....`
`18:47.55`	`Antiarc\|Work`	`I like running DMs, but wanted to drop DamageMeters as it sucks up RAM like a mofo which is bad when you're trying to get some decent profiling numbers.`
`18:47.58`	`TS\|Skrom`	`would explain some things I've noticed though`
`18:48.01`	`Antiarc\|Work`	`So I popped up Violation.`
`18:49.48`	`TS\|Skrom`	`what's expo?`
`18:50.39`	`*** join/#wowi-lounge Adys (n=Adys@APoitiers-257-1-45-173.w90-38.abo.wanadoo.fr)`
`18:50.56`	`Antiarc\|Work`	`It's a function-level profiler - the big window there on the right.`
`18:51.07`	`Antiarc\|Work`	`Give it a table and it profiles all methods in that table.`
`18:51.42`	`sag_ich_nicht`	`http://atlasmod.com/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=952`
`18:52.10`	`Antiarc\|Work`	`I've been using it to track down methods that are creating excess garbage. Extremely useful.`
`18:52.20`	`Antiarc\|Work`	`I've got ThreatLib running super lean and mean now thanks to it. :D`
`18:53.24`	`TS\|Skrom`	`that something you downloaded or made?`
`18:54.32`	`Antiarc\|Work`	`Downloaded. It's in the wowace repo.`
`18:54.37`	`Antiarc\|Work`	`Fantastic little tool.`
`18:55.45`	`TS\|Skrom`	`and the other one that tracks how much mem addons are using, and last GC, is that FuBar_GCInFu?`
`18:56.32`	`Antiarc\|Work`	`PerformanceFu`
`18:56.41`	`TS\|Skrom`	`ahh okay`
`18:57.01`	`Antiarc\|Work`	`It's great for a lot of stuff, but Expo's better for performance optimization, as PerformanceFu is subject to the memory usage masking that goes on in Ace mods.`
`18:57.24`	`Antiarc\|Work`	`For example, I had a bunch of garbage being created by Omen, but it was credited to Threat-1.0 since the codepath was invoked by a Threat event raise.`
`18:57.57`	`sag_ich_nicht`	`performancefu has some bug that seems to have left gone unnoticed for a long time anyway`
`18:58.11`	`sag_ich_nicht`	`every so often it has a very short, but noticeable CPU usage spike`
`18:58.17`	`sag_ich_nicht`	`which is why i have it deactivated`
`18:58.18`	`sag_ich_nicht`	`><`
`18:58.35`	`sag_ich_nicht`	`(hate the picture freezing for a few ms every so often)`
`18:59.00`	`Shirik`	`yup I've seen the same`
`18:59.07`	`Shirik`	`but I thought that was the CPU profiling, not performancefu`
`18:59.15`	`Antiarc\|Work`	`If you have CPU profiling on, it does that since it's calling the method that actually does the profiling measurements.`
`18:59.29`	`Antiarc\|Work`	`Not much way around that, but you don't generally need CPU profiling on in live situations`
`19:00.13`	`sag_ich_nicht`	`it happens with CPU profiling off though`
`19:00.17`	`TS\|Skrom`	`oops`
`19:00.25`	`sag_ich_nicht`	`with cpu profiling ON, it gets very bad`
`19:00.26`	`Antiarc\|Work`	`Hrm. Haven't seen that.`
`19:00.27`	`TS\|Skrom`	`1.5 hours before quitting time and I havnt eaten lunch yet`
`19:00.36`	`TS\|Skrom`	`<-- ftl`
`19:00.43`	`sag_ich_nicht`	`with it off, it might even look like a lagspike`
`19:00.50`	`sag_ich_nicht`	`but it's not, since it goes away when i turn it off`
`19:00.51`	`sag_ich_nicht`	`><`
`19:01.03`	`Antiarc\|Work`	`Huh. Odd.`
`19:01.07`	`sag_ich_nicht`	`yes, very`
`19:02.39`	`sag_ich_nicht`	`might be a local problem, but i doubt it`
`19:02.54`	`sag_ich_nicht`	`(might be that it only shows up with a lot of addons though, considering i have over 300 >.>)`
`19:03.17`	`sag_ich_nicht`	`372 folders in my addons folder`
`19:03.17`	`sag_ich_nicht`	`>_<`
`19:04.06`	`foxlit`	`Haha, joy`
`19:04.07`	`TS\|Skrom`	`lol nice!`
`19:04.12`	`TS\|Skrom`	`screenshot that for me, eh?`
`19:04.15`	`foxlit`	`BigWigs_SomeOtherBoss?`
`19:05.07`	`sag_ich_nicht`	`TS\|Skrom meh`
`19:05.37`	`sag_ich_nicht`	`also 153 MB big`
`19:05.55`	`sag_ich_nicht`	`WTF folder is another 33 MB`
`19:08.59`	`sag_ich_nicht`	`also no conflicts`
`19:09.08`	`sag_ich_nicht`	`and 60 fps`
`19:09.25`	`Lopeppeppy`	`Deeply envy you, sag_ich_nicht`
`19:09.33`	`foxlit`	`What's the second return from string.find? end position?`
`19:09.33`	`sag_ich_nicht`	`(not)`
`19:09.46`	`sag_ich_nicht`	`IF there is a conflict`
`19:09.51`	`sag_ich_nicht`	`it takes hours and hours to track down`
`19:09.52`	`cog\|work`	`sag_ich_nicht: what resolution?`
`19:09.59`	`Antiarc\|Work`	`Lopeppeppy: Think so.`
`19:10.01`	`sag_ich_nicht`	`cog\|work lemme take a screenshot`
`19:10.07`	`cog\|work`	`foxlit: start, end, (captures...)`
`19:10.19`	`sag_ich_nicht`	`Display Resolution: 1680x1050x32bpp 60Hz`
`19:10.20`	`sag_ich_nicht`	`(btw.)`
`19:10.31`	`Lopeppeppy`	`Hmm, Antiarc?`
`19:10.44`	`Antiarc\|Work`	`Err. Sorry. Misread. Meant to respond to foxlit`
`19:10.49`	`cog\|work`	`o_o`
`19:10.50`	`Antiarc\|Work`	`(afk, getting coffee)`
`19:10.53`	`cog\|work`	`sag_ich_nicht: what gpu?`
`19:11.00`	`sag_ich_nicht`	`Offenderserv is running Windows XP Professional, Service Pack 2 (5.1 - 2600) on an AMD Athlon 64 X2 Dual Core 5200+ at 2.60 GHz with 1631/2048MB (79.64%) RAM free.`
`19:11.01`	`sag_ich_nicht`	`It has an nVidia GeForce 8800 GTX running at 1680x1050x32bpp 60Hz, Sound Blaster Audigy, and 424.88 GB of 596.17 GB available on 1 drive(s).`
`19:11.01`	`Lopeppeppy`	`Good, 'cause I was confuzled.`
`19:11.16`	`Antiarc\|Work`	`grin`
`19:11.22`	`Antiarc\|Work`	`1920x1200 4 lyfe.`
`19:12.00`	`TS\|Skrom`	`cog\|work are you accepting incoming /msg's?`
`19:12.07`	`TS\|Skrom`	`shoulda asked before I sent that XD`
`19:12.09`	`Lopeppeppy`	`Radeon 9200 series...`
`19:12.22`	`sag_ich_nicht`	`be glad you have a 5200fx`
`19:12.23`	`zenzelezz`	`I'm quite happy with my 1280x1024 + 1280x1024`
`19:12.27`	`sag_ich_nicht`	`drivers for the 8800GTX are buggy`
`19:12.32`	`sag_ich_nicht`	`and WoWs support for them as well`
`19:12.34`	`cog\|work`	`Oh... mine would be getting that kinda FPS if i weren't running in windowed mode on vista with desktop composition enabled ><`
`19:12.36`	`sag_ich_nicht`	`lots of crashes on alt + tab`
`19:13.17`	`Kaydeethree`	`meh. it's just using the unified kmod-nvidia-100.14.09-1.2.6.21_1.3194.fc7 driver anyway`
`19:13.28`	`cog\|work`	`>>> print(string.find("ABC123", "(%d+)"))`
`19:13.42`	`TS\|Skrom`	`lol`
`19:13.49`	`sag_ich_nicht`	`cry in his pillow about the success of oRA2?`
`19:13.50`	`sag_ich_nicht`	`:P`
`19:14.02`	`TS\|Skrom`	`wow`
`19:14.04`	`cog\|work`	`lua> print(string.find("ABC123", "(%d+)"))`
`19:14.28`	`sag_ich_nicht`	`http://img48.imageshack.us/img48/222/wowscrnshot062907211047dl4.jpg`
`19:14.32`	`sag_ich_nicht`	`there cogwheel`
`19:15.42`	`*** join/#wowi-lounge pakoz2 (n=asd@71-93-39-179.static.snlo.ca.charter.com)`
`19:15.42`	`deltron`	`lol nice macro's`
`19:15.52`	`pakoz2`	`yo all`
`19:16.00`	`Lunessa`	`Holy full on button extravaganza Batman!`
`19:16.14`	`deltron`	`http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=115042266&sid=1`
`19:16.34`	`deltron`	`http://img179.imageshack.us/img179/1303/wowscrnshot062607221404ek9.jpg <-- mine :P`
`19:17.05`	`pakoz2`	`wow`
`19:17.09`	`pakoz2`	`huge raid frames`
`19:17.16`	`Josh_Borke`	`with a wopping 109 MB of mem usage :-D`
`19:17.46`	`deltron`	`hehe`
`19:17.54`	`deltron`	`<PROTECTED>`
`19:17.59`	`pakoz2`	`anyone here recommend i dump deadly boss mods and go with big wigs`
`19:18.13`	`sag_ich_nicht`	`[21:15] <deltron> lol nice macro's <--the best one is hidden in the left lower corner :P`
`19:18.16`	`deltron`	`I've used big wigs for a long time`
`19:18.35`	`Antiarc\|Work`	`I loves me some BigWigs.`
`19:18.44`	`deltron`	`sag_ich_nicht: what's it do?`
`19:18.46`	`Lunessa`	`deltron: That block of buttons below your raid frames, vas ist?`
`19:19.12`	`deltron`	`Lunessa: those are my totems :P`
`19:19.14`	`deltron`	`all of them`
`19:19.30`	`Lunessa`	`Ah. I use YATA for mine.`
`19:19.40`	`deltron`	`yeah`
`19:19.50`	`deltron`	`yata was being a pain for me for some unknown reason`
`19:19.57`	`Lunessa`	`Shaman is level 67 and raising.`
`19:20.05`	`deltron`	`that's some basic shaman mod`
`19:20.12`	`deltron`	`and I use shammyspy for the timers`
`19:20.17`	`sag_ich_nicht`	`[21:18] <deltron> sag_ich_nicht: what's it do? <--summon my mount`
`19:20.27`	`deltron`	`usually I'm shammyspy/yata`
`19:20.39`	`Lunessa`	`I used to use Bongos and just dedicated a bar to each totem type.`
`19:20.55`	`deltron`	`yeah`
`19:20.59`	`deltron`	`I used to have 3 bars of totems`
`19:21.49`	`mikma`	`Lunessa: same here :D`
`19:22.09`	`mikma`	`i even made the totembars come visible when i press shift`
`19:22.22`	`deltron`	`lol yeah`
`19:22.23`	`Lunessa`	`I got the Earth Elemental totem the other day... <3.`
`19:22.30`	`*** join/#wowi-lounge Mike-N-Go (n=MikeNGoS@ip67-88-206-99.z206-88-67.customer.algx.net)`
`19:25.34`	`*** join/#wowi-lounge flukes1 (n=flukes1@5ac9267e.bb.sky.com)`
`19:25.34`	`deltron`	`yeah`
`19:25.41`	`deltron`	`the elementals are a little nice now`
`19:25.52`	`deltron`	`since they get 2-shot instead of 1-shot`
`19:25.53`	`flukes1`	`Hey, is there an event which fires when a raid member disconnects?`
`19:25.55`	`pakoz2`	`does big wigs have a range finder`
`19:26.08`	`flukes1`	`i.e. loses their connection to the game`
`19:26.17`	`Lunessa`	`There's 2 features in BT3 that I want in Bongos2 "Fade Out" and "Page on Modifier Key"`
`19:26.18`	`deltron`	`pakoz2: umm there's a plugin like the gruul one`
`19:26.20`	`Antiarc\|Work`	`PARTY_MEMBER_DISABLE`
`19:26.31`	`flukes1`	`Will that fire for the entire raid though`
`19:26.34`	`pakoz2`	`ya, sry thats what i'm fter`
`19:26.36`	`Antiarc\|Work`	`No idea.`
`19:26.55`	`deltron`	`one for gruul, that guy in kara`
`19:26.59`	`deltron`	`umm what else`
`19:27.02`	`pakoz2`	`hydross`
`19:27.15`	`pakoz2`	`?`
`19:27.22`	`deltron`	`not been to him yet`
`19:27.26`	`pakoz2`	`hmm`
`19:27.29`	`deltron`	`guild is still working on resist gear`
`19:27.30`	`deltron`	`but i'm sure`
`19:27.39`	`pakoz2`	`is there a way to look up what it does have events for?`
`19:28.00`	`deltron`	`http://www.wowace.com/wiki/BigWigs`
`19:28.16`	`Lunessa`	`Mmm... Sanity 2.`
`19:29.18`	`sag_ich_nicht`	`[21:18] <deltron> sag_ich_nicht: what's it do? <--http://pastey.net/70067-c4s3 btw.`
`19:29.38`	`deltron`	`ohhh nice`
`19:29.55`	`deltron`	`I really need to start making macro's`
`19:31.48`	`Lunessa`	`Benna always has a sexy looking lay out for her priest. I need a bigger monitor.`
`19:31.58`	`sag_ich_nicht`	`does nothing unless you are in an area where you can mount, if you're in a form it cancels that form, if you are on a mount you are unmounted, then summons the flying mount if you can fly, otherwise the ground mount`
`19:32.02`	`sag_ich_nicht`	`unless you used a rightclick`
`19:32.09`	`Lopeppeppy`	`If I replace my computer, I might get a second monitor as well. Go right out.`
`19:32.09`	`sag_ich_nicht`	`in which case it will always summon the ground mount`
`19:32.22`	`deltron`	`i just use the mount button on autobar heh`
`19:32.32`	`sag_ich_nicht`	`pfffffff`
`19:32.39`	`deltron`	`:P`
`19:33.07`	`deltron`	`anyone a macro god that can answer a question?`
`19:33.18`	`cog\|work`	`I'm the macro god`
`19:33.20`	`TS\|Skrom`	`your title on that mcro suggests there's a better mount macro`
`19:33.22`	`Lopeppeppy`	`I use Autobar too, Delton... I are lazy.`
`19:33.34`	`Lunessa`	`I dual monitor now, but they are different form factors and I play wow in 1440 x 900 on the primary and keep a browser and TS on monitor two.`
`19:33.42`	`Lunessa`	`I'm a macro High Priest.`
`19:33.57`	`cog\|work`	`deltron: http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=96143900&sid=1`
`19:33.59`	`cog\|work`	`:P`
`19:34.21`	`deltron`	`if I have a macro to switch out my totems before casting a heal, is there a delay before the gear takes effect?`
`19:34.38`	`cog\|work`	`yes`
`19:34.52`	`deltron`	`that's what I guessed heh`
`19:34.53`	`cog\|work`	`The macro completes executing before the server even gets word that you want to change gear`
`19:35.03`	`sag_ich_nicht`	`cog\|work: happy with the screenshot i gave you?`
`19:35.09`	`Lunessa`	`Weapon/releic swaps invoke global cooldown`
`19:35.21`	`deltron`	`hmm`
`19:35.34`	`cog\|work`	`sag_ich_nicht: I was just curious what resolution you were using at 60fps`
`19:35.39`	`sag_ich_nicht`	`ah`
`19:35.46`	`sag_ich_nicht`	`well`
`19:35.49`	`sag_ich_nicht`	`it tends to drop a bit`
`19:35.54`	`sag_ich_nicht`	`and this is this LCDs native res`
`19:36.04`	`deltron`	`it'd be awesome to macro switching my healing totems with whatever heal`
`19:36.15`	`deltron`	`didn't seem to really work when I tried`
`19:36.15`	`sag_ich_nicht`	`but otoh, i am playing at the highest possible settings forced by driver :P`
`19:36.19`	`cog\|work`	`I have all options turned up all the way in game and even some extra ones turned up in my drivers (e.g., transparency antialiasing)`
`19:36.31`	`sag_ich_nicht`	`i have all of them upped to max in the driver.`
`19:36.32`	`sag_ich_nicht`	`:P`
`19:36.34`	`cog\|work`	`and get around 45 in shattrath at 1280x1024`
`19:36.40`	`sag_ich_nicht`	`same here`
`19:36.44`	`sag_ich_nicht`	`60 in IF though`
`19:36.52`	`cog\|work`	`yeah... if is cake :)`
`19:37.04`	`sag_ich_nicht`	`i'd get constant 60 easily if i turned my addons off`
`19:37.11`	`deltron`	`I'm 45-ish in shatt, 1650x1080`
`19:37.15`	`cog\|work`	`If I weren't on vista (or at least turned off desktop composition) I get a 10-20% better rate`
`19:37.18`	`sag_ich_nicht`	`WTB proper dualcore support from WoW`
`19:37.25`	`cog\|work`	`ditto`
`19:37.30`	`deltron`	`yeah!`
`19:37.31`	`cog\|work`	`i'm on a core2 e6600`
`19:37.32`	`deltron`	`let's protest!`
`19:37.41`	`deltron`	`cog\|work: me too :D awesome proc`
`19:37.47`	`sag_ich_nicht`	`[21:37] <cog\|work> i'm on a core2 e6600 <--enjoy your broken CPU`
`19:37.54`	`deltron`	`lol`
`19:37.58`	`cog\|work`	`hehe`
`19:38.00`	`sag_ich_nicht`	`http://marc.info/?l=openbsd-misc&m=118296441702631`
`19:38.01`	`sag_ich_nicht`	`:P`
`19:38.02`	`deltron`	`what theo said eh?`
`19:38.18`	`cog\|work`	`yeah. read that the other day`
`19:38.20`	`sag_ich_nicht`	`HAIL theo, the grrrrrrrreat flamer.`
`19:38.25`	`Shirik`	`=(`
`19:38.29`	`Shirik`	`I just used XML in my addon`
`19:38.33`	`deltron`	`yeah, he's a disturber heh`
`19:38.35`	`sag_ich_nicht`	`bad Shirik`
`19:38.37`	`\|Jelly\|`	`SHIRIK!`
`19:38.41`	`sag_ich_nicht`	`no cookie`
`19:38.42`	`\|Jelly\|`	`Bad! Bad! Shirik!`
`19:39.05`	`sag_ich_nicht`	`i was kidding :P`
`19:39.11`	`cog\|work`	`:P`
`19:39.17`	`Shirik`	`I can't make a virtual frame with lua :(`
`19:39.21`	`cog\|work`	`I was too. I can't really smack anyone here :(`
`19:39.27`	`\|Jelly\|`	`I don't know enough about it to care either way, to be honest.`
`19:39.31`	`cog\|work`	`Shirik: use a table and write your own creator function`
`19:39.34`	`sag_ich_nicht`	`[21:38] <sag_ich_nicht> HAIL theo, the grrrrrrrreat flamer. <--anyone who gets what i was refering to with this gets a cookie btw. :P`
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`19:39.37`	`Shirik`	`usually I do`
`19:39.43`	`Shirik`	`but in this case it seems like so much work`
`19:39.46`	`Shirik`	`xml's actually going to be easier`
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`19:45.55`	`Lopeppeppy`	`I'm going to look at adoptable kitties. Y'all stay good.`
`19:46.02`	`\|Jelly\|`	`nooooooo`
`19:46.20`	`zenzelezz`	`demand pics`
`19:46.28`	`Antiarc\|Work`	`Lopeppeppy: beware!`
`19:46.29`	`Antiarc\|Work`	`http://xkcd.com/c231.html`
`19:46.45`	`\|Jelly\|`	`HAHA`
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`19:46.56`	`Lopeppeppy`	`Okay... stay froody then, \|Jelly\|. kisskiss If I become a mommy, I will drive you all crazy with pictures.`
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`19:52.00`	`sag_ich_nicht`	`http://xkcd.com/c283.html awww X)`
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`19:55.50`	`Lunessa`	`http://i19.tinypic.com/4ya19fr.jpg - I want this level of clean.`
`19:56.03`	`\|Jelly\|`	`oh my god`
`19:56.09`	`\|Jelly\|`	`<-- would die`
`19:57.45`	`Lunessa`	`Seriously. It's functional clean, and easy on the eyes. But I still need party/raid frames and lots of buttons - I'm just assuming he has most of them hidden away.`
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`19:58.45`	`Lunessa`	`http://img338.imageshack.us/img338/513/wowscrnshot062007233830yj0.jpg - not bad either, but odd button placement.`
`20:03.43`	`Josh_Borke`	`what's up with all the odd bottom space?`
`20:05.31`	`kaiden`	`i'm weird with my layouts, http://www.ohnoes.cc/screenshots/Denarik_01.jpg`
`20:07.37`	`Kirkburn`	`Btw, Skull of Guldan is a mage trinket :D`
`20:07.52`	`Lunessa`	`No, not really, You have two major sections for buttons. And it looks like the seals/blessings thing on the right is click while the rest is key-bound.`
`20:08.00`	`Kirkburn`	`(http://www.mmo-champion.com/index.php?topic=382.0)`
`20:08.38`	`\|Jelly\|`	`Kaiden: I like your party frames. Simple and to the point. 8)`
`20:08.55`	`kaiden`	`\|Jelly\|, :) no need for anything else hehe`
`20:09.35`	`kaiden`	`i had to make it so they were close to my own health because i kept letting myself die`
`20:09.38`	`\|Jelly\|`	`Are you left handed? (Out of curiosity)`
`20:09.47`	`kaiden`	`nope, why do you ask?`
`20:10.11`	`\|Jelly\|`	`Cause a couple friends of mine are and all their party frames, etc are on the left...opposite for right handed.`
`20:10.16`	`Kirkburn`	`Wow, I should try reducing my button sizes. Those are some damn clean layouts (@ Lunessa)`
`20:10.42`	`Lunessa`	`I liked them too.`
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`20:11.03`	`Kirkburn`	`sigh, yay for crashing`
`20:11.03`	`Lunessa`	`I want to have some level of clarity like that on my screen.`
`20:11.23`	`Kirkburn`	`That now means I lost the links to the other screenshots people posted :/`
`20:11.35`	`Kirkburn`	`rage!`
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`20:15.01`	`Shirik`	`wtf`
`20:15.09`	`Shirik`	`someone posted in the tech support forums, a blue responded`
`20:15.12`	`Shirik`	`it was moved to the UI forums`
`20:15.16`	`Shirik`	`and then back to the tech support forums`
`20:15.29`	`batrick`	`LOL`
`20:15.50`	`nevcairiel`	`lol`
`20:15.52`	`nevcairiel`	`CMs ftw`
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`20:21.25`	`kaiden`	`\|Jelly\|, nah, i have multiple computers sitting near me and most of the time my left side is where i'm watching movies or reading websites`
`20:21.32`	`kaiden`	`so i'm used to stuff being on the left for visibility`
`20:21.32`	`kaiden`	`;p`
`20:22.01`	`\|Jelly\|`	`ahh`
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`20:26.49`	`\|Jelly\|`	`LUA`
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`20:37.56`	`Shirik`	`lemmiwinks?`
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`20:42.03`	`Shirik`	`whom here knows something about dropdown menus, which I never use?`
`20:44.29`	`Shirik`	`it won't appear :(`
`20:44.37`	`Shirik`	`I know the function's being called, but it never shows up`
`20:44.39`	`Shirik`	`want to see the code?`
`20:44.43`	`foxlit`	`Sure`
`20:47.02`	`Shirik`	`this is the xml http://wowi.pastey.net/70070?lang=xml`
`20:47.26`	`Shirik`	`the frame in question is ExterminatorFrameTitle`
`20:48.36`	`Shirik`	`I'm a moron`
`20:48.37`	`Shirik`	`never mind`
`20:48.45`	`Shirik`	`wait no, no I'm not`
`20:48.47`	`Shirik`	`ha`
`20:49.25`	`Shirik`	`here's the lua: http://wowi.pastey.net/70071`
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`20:51.01`	`krka`	`weird... something smells burned, and now i cant get any sound`
`20:51.06`	`Fin`	`hmm`
`20:51.18`	`cog\|work`	`:\|`
`20:51.21`	`cog\|work`	`I know the feeling...`
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`20:51.26`	`Kaydeethree`	`your motherboard blow a cap?`
`20:51.32`	`krka`	`possibly, hard to tell`
`20:51.55`	`cog\|work`	`I've watched a power trace on my mobo go up like a fuse in open air....`
`20:52.41`	`Lunessa`	`ouch`
`20:52.47`	`Shirik`	`fyi, the Lua is loaded after the XML`
`20:52.51`	`Shirik`	`but I don't think that should be an issue`
`20:55.42`	`Shirik`	`I should point out, foxlit`
`20:55.44`	`Shirik`	`Exterminator.debug("Call!");`
`20:55.45`	`Shirik`	`is never run`
`20:55.51`	`Shirik`	`at least as far as I can see`
`20:57.23`	`\|Jelly\|`	`http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=114781831&sid=1 <-- tired of those threads`
`20:57.43`	`Shirik`	`now you know why I wrote that up`
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`21:03.20`	`Lunessa`	`http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=115041714&sid=1 - sigh`
`21:03.41`	`deltron`	`Lunessa: http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=114912309&postId=1147222033&sid=1#7`
`21:03.44`	`deltron`	`:P`
`21:03.47`	`Shirik`	`so I'm sitting here coding`
`21:03.54`	`Shirik`	`and some guy comes up to me and gives me a void crystal and a LPS`
`21:04.04`	`Shirik`	`never seen him before in my life`
`21:04.26`	`Lunessa`	`Those sort of threads make me want to quote "The Matrix" - "That sounds like a really good deal, but I have a better one. How about I give you the finger, and you give me my phone call?"`
`21:04.31`	`subsonic`	`Where's a good place to get started to learn to make a mod? Also, when creating frames, do you guys tend to use XML or build them in LUA?`
`21:04.42`	`sag_ich_nicht`	`Shirik wth`
`21:04.43`	`deltron`	`Shirik: a fan?`
`21:04.44`	`Shirik`	`I tend to create them in Lua, but that's a preference`
`21:04.50`	`Shirik`	`also, Lua is not an acronym`
`21:04.53`	`Shirik`	`deltron: I have no idea ><`
`21:04.55`	`Shirik`	`he said he was deleting his char so`
`21:04.57`	`Shirik`	`I doubt it`
`21:05.05`	`deltron`	`hah nice`
`21:05.06`	`sag_ich_nicht`	`omg`
`21:05.16`	`foxlit`	`XML`
`21:05.24`	`Shirik`	`foxlit: any idea? :(`
`21:05.25`	`foxlit`	`Though I think I'm in the minority there :)`
`21:05.35`	`foxlit`	`Oh, gah, I got sidetracked, sec.`
`21:05.46`	`Shirik`	`sorry ><`
`21:05.57`	`Shirik`	`It seems like Exterminator.MenuInit is never being called`
`21:06.26`	`subsonic`	`Strange, people in #wowace tend to build them in LUA. But I'd like to see examples. Anybody know of good example code of making frames with text in LUA?`
`21:06.40`	`cog\|work`	`subsonic: I use XML for one simple reason: http://www.wowwiki.com/HOWTO:_Set_up_Visual_Studio_for_WoW_XML`
`21:06.40`	`Shirik`	`again, Lua is not an acronym`
`21:06.56`	`subsonic`	`Shirik: ahh, thanks`
`21:06.56`	`Lunessa`	`deltron: Grid is not for me. I use Clique and I'm happy with it. I don't bother with Healbot, Decursive, or any of those. Just bind my debuff removers to CTRL+RightClick and Shift+RightClick and I'm happy. :P`
`21:06.58`	`\|Jelly\|`	`LUA LUA LUA`
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`21:07.12`	`subsonic`	`cog\|work: I don't use visual studio :)`
`21:07.13`	`Shirik`	`subbawt: It comes down to preference`
`21:07.25`	`cog\|work`	`you don't have to memorize as many API calls because the XSD file specifies exactly which tags, attributes, and values are applicable so VS can do autocomplete`
`21:07.28`	`Shirik`	`pick which you like -- personally I hate XML, I think it just looks ugly and not very straightforward`
`21:07.37`	`Antiarc\|Work`	`Hey guys, I'm founding the Lua Users Association`
`21:07.39`	`Antiarc\|Work`	`(LUA for short)`
`21:07.42`	`foxlit`	`Shirik: you never intialized the menu, did you?`
`21:07.45`	`Shirik`	`but there are reasons to use XML too, some think it looks better because you can easily see its structure`
`21:07.54`	`Shirik`	`foxlit: I'm not sure. I have UIDropDownMenu_Initialize()`
`21:08.05`	`foxlit`	`Not in the pastey? :)`
`21:08.06`	`subsonic`	`Shirik: do you have examples of non XML (I don't think i want to use the xml)`
`21:08.15`	`foxlit`	`ah, x2`
`21:08.15`	`Shirik`	`ya, in OnLoad of ExterminatorFrameTitleMenu`
`21:08.31`	`Shirik`	`uh`
`21:08.34`	`Shirik`	`I have examples, yeah`
`21:08.39`	`Shirik`	`they'll probably be unreadable, unfortunately`
`21:08.45`	`Shirik`	`I can try though`
`21:08.47`	`cog\|work`	`subsonic: check out http://home.blarg.net/~tyroney/wow/uitutorial/`
`21:08.58`	`cog\|work`	`it's incomplete, but it gives you an idea`
`21:08.59`	`subsonic`	`Also, to display fonts, you need to put a CreateFontString in a frame?`
`21:08.59`	`deltron`	`Lunessa: I don't use any of the healing mods, I'm one of the pitbull users :P`
`21:09.09`	`subsonic`	`cog: thanks`
`21:09.45`	`Lunessa`	`deltron: Ah. The general posters made me facepalm so I resorted to skimming.`
`21:10.05`	`deltron`	`I haven't tried using grid at all`
`21:10.10`	`deltron`	`well in a while`
`21:10.16`	`deltron`	`I never liked it because it's somewhat too small`
`21:10.36`	`foxlit`	`Hrm, that should actually work :/`
`21:10.48`	`foxlit`	`You aren't missing anything obvious that I can see.`
`21:10.52`	`foxlit`	`Call! and stuff outputs?`
`21:10.55`	`Shirik`	`the only thing that is apparent to me is that Exterminator.MenuInit() is never called it seems`
`21:10.56`	`Shirik`	`no`
`21:10.57`	`Shirik`	`it doesn't`
`21:11.00`	`Shirik`	`as far as I can see`
`21:11.13`	`foxlit`	`Okay, then things are going way wrong`
`21:11.22`	`foxlit`	`Since that init function should be called on _Initialize call as well`
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`21:11.35`	`Lunessa`	`I don't feel the need to add a second set of frames to do what I can do with Pitbull and PerfectRaid.`
`21:12.10`	`foxlit`	`Exterminator.MenuInit isn't nil at OnLoad?`
`21:12.12`	`deltron`	`yeah`
`21:12.18`	`deltron`	`I used to use SimpleRaid`
`21:12.23`	`deltron`	`but pitbull is fine for raid frames`
`21:12.24`	`Shirik`	`hrm`
`21:12.27`	`Shirik`	`actually..`
`21:12.32`	`Shirik`	`I forgot about that`
`21:12.35`	`\|Jelly\|`	`<3 perfect raid`
`21:12.56`	`Shirik`	`the lua file is run after the xml file`
`21:12.58`	`Lunessa`	`It probably is. but I "less-than-three" PerfectRaid.`
`21:13.05`	`foxlit`	`Explains things :)`
`21:13.24`	`Shirik`	`hrm`
`21:13.28`	`Shirik`	`this is gonna get ugly then`
`21:13.39`	`Shirik`	`cause I somewhat need the xml file first too ><`
`21:13.48`	`foxlit`	`Don't call it on OnLoad, then`
`21:13.55`	`deltron`	`i'll look into perfectraid again`
`21:13.56`	`subsonic`	`cog\|work: Dude, this is nice.`
`21:14.00`	`Shirik`	`oh that's just where I've seen it done`
`21:14.03`	`foxlit`	`Load your lua, check if XML frame exists, call it in main Lua chunk :)`
`21:14.07`	`Shirik`	`ah ok`
`21:14.35`	`cog\|work`	`subsonic: not mine, btw :P`
`21:14.48`	`subsonic`	`cog\|work: still, this is what I'm looking for`
`21:15.18`	`foxlit`	`Not that big a deal; I usually load XML after XML-related Lua to avoid that, though (with a definitions-only mainchunk to avoid a horde of errors if I kill the XML file)`
`21:15.38`	`Shirik`	`usually I load XML later too`
`21:15.45`	`Shirik`	`just in this case something arose where I needed the Lua first`
`21:16.10`	`Shirik`	`ok well`
`21:16.14`	`Shirik`	`this time I got "Call!" but`
`21:16.25`	`Shirik`	`no dropdown menu :(`
`21:16.45`	`Shirik`	`does that only get called at the beginning btw?`
`21:16.49`	`Shirik`	`or is it supposed to be called on every click?`
`21:17.01`	`foxlit`	`It's called whenever a menu should be generated`
`21:17.06`	`foxlit`	`+ on _Initialize call`
`21:17.41`	`foxlit`	`So you should be getting a call after your Toggle ca;;`
`21:17.42`	`foxlit`	`call`
`21:17.43`	`Shirik`	`hm, so it's only being called on that _Initialize call`
`21:18.06`	`foxlit`	`Try running Toggle* manually`
`21:19.09`	`Shirik`	`huh`
`21:19.10`	`Shirik`	`that's`
`21:19.11`	`Shirik`	`omg`
`21:19.17`	`Shirik`	`I forgot to register for all clicks -_-`
`21:19.25`	`Shirik`	`thanks >.>`
`21:19.26`	`cog\|work`	`ZING!`
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`21:24.27`	`Shirik`	`perfect foxlit thanks`
`21:31.35`	`subsonic`	`Woah, status bars are easy :) I'm surpried people haven't used them in quest mods`
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`21:32.27`	`krka`	`wtf is up with this mainboard :/`
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`21:48.11`	`subsonic`	`how is layering handled?`
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`21:49.22`	`subsonic`	`nm`
`22:00.58`	`subsonic`	`Anyway to comment out multiple lines at once?`
`22:01.26`	`Thrae`	`subsonic: --[[ lalalala --]]`
`22:01.34`	`subsonic`	`thanks`
`22:03.34`	`Shirik`	`don't need the -- before ]]`
`22:03.36`	`Shirik`	`but ya`
`22:05.17`	`subsonic`	`So I was using setWidth instead of SetWidth. How can I see UI errors?`
`22:05.39`	`Antiarc\|Work`	`I like to use --[[ whatever ]]-- because it's nice and balanced.`
`22:05.46`	`Lunessa`	`They're logged in the logs folder`
`22:05.48`	`Antiarc\|Work`	`subsonic: BugGrabber + BugSack are my preferred poison.`
`22:06.41`	`subsonic`	`Antiarc: Just google them?`
`22:07.02`	`Shirik`	`yeah I tend to do that as well`
`22:07.07`	`Shirik`	`--[[ comment ]]--`
`22:07.14`	`Shirik`	`only time I don't do it is when I have stuff to the right`
`22:07.20`	`Shirik`	`like if I commented something out in the middle of a line`
`22:07.33`	`Shirik`	`or like one line in my defaults.lua:`
`22:07.34`	`Shirik`	`Talubk --[[sic]] = 5,-- This was on wowhead... is that a typo or what??`
`22:09.17`	`Antiarc\|Work`	`subsonic: http://files.wowace.com/!BugGrabber/!BugGrabber-r40515.zip and http://files.wowace.com/BugSack/BugSack-r40596.1033.zip`
`22:10.16`	`Lunessa`	`"I hope this isn't asking too much but could you put the whole macro together for me?" - And that's what I believe most of our posters are really asking.`
`22:11.08`	`subsonic`	`Antiarc: thanks!`
`22:13.48`	`subsonic`	`Antiarc: Much nicer :) thanks`
`22:15.01`	`Antiarc\|Work`	`Makes it nice and easy, huh? :)`
`22:15.09`	`Mr_Rabies2`	`man`
`22:15.09`	`Mr_Rabies2`	`http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gi-c6lbFGC4`
`22:15.11`	`Mr_Rabies2`	`this is crazy`
`22:15.11`	`subsonic`	`much better`
`22:16.44`	`subsonic`	`Mr_Rabies: oh yeah, seen it, it's horrible!`
`22:17.32`	`mikma`	`anyone of you speak that language in the video?`
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`22:20.38`	`Mr_Rabies2`	`that's Arabic, and there's subtitles`
`22:20.45`	`Mr_Rabies2`	`from what i've heard, they're pretty much spot on`
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`22:21.07`	`Mr_Rabies2`	`this is on hamas' official tv station`
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`22:28.46`	`subsonic`	`For making a frame without a border, what's the best method?`
`22:32.17`	`cog\|work`	`don't give it one :P`
`22:32.35`	`subsonic`	`cog: so no edgefile?`
`22:32.53`	`cog\|work`	`pretty sure just ommiting it will work, yeah`
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`22:36.57`	`subsonic`	`Where's blizzard's official API docs?`
`22:37.17`	`MentalPower`	`inside blizzard`
`22:37.54`	`subsonic`	`seems the wiki doesn't have some information about stuff`
`22:38.00`	`cog\|work`	`Pretty sure they don't even use the docs. they just look at the source code`
`22:39.17`	`Antiarc\|Work`	`The source is the doc :)`
`22:39.27`	`cog\|work`	`s/the docs/docs/`
`22:39.34`	`Antiarc\|Work`	`All the doc on the WoW API is user-generated, barring some comments in the source files.`
`22:39.50`	`Shirik`	`-- HACK`
`22:39.51`	`Shirik`	`-- END HACK`
`22:39.58`	`Shirik`	`<3`
`22:39.59`	`cog\|work`	`<3 blizz code`
`22:40.04`	`Antiarc\|Work`	`Well, like the secure headers stuff.`
`22:40.07`	`Antiarc\|Work`	`Lots of good doc in there.`
`22:40.24`	`cog\|work`	`yeah, but that's because Iriel had to explain it to Slouken ><`
`22:40.28`	`Antiarc\|Work`	`Hahahah`
`22:40.31`	`sag_ich_nicht`	`yes`
`22:40.31`	`sag_ich_nicht`	`><`
`22:40.39`	`sag_ich_nicht`	`wtb some people from here working for blizzard`
`22:41.12`	`cog\|work`	`that would be shweet... i'd so just walk out of my job if they offered me one :P`
`22:41.37`	`sag_ich_nicht`	`wait`
`22:41.43`	`sag_ich_nicht`	`doesn't alexander work for them?`
`22:41.48`	`cog\|work`	`yeah`
`22:41.50`	`sag_ich_nicht`	`(well, not like he's around much :P)`
`22:42.09`	`cog\|work`	`but i don't think he does UI work there...`
`22:42.12`	`sag_ich_nicht`	`i know`
`22:42.19`	`sag_ich_nicht`	`he's a "game designer"`
`22:42.33`	`sag_ich_nicht`	`someone should punch him to take a look at the UI code from time to time`
`22:44.18`	`sag_ich_nicht`	`cog\|work: maybe you should just send them a resume :P (unless you already did)`
`22:45.11`	`cog\|work`	`No job postings for ui work :(`
`22:45.20`	`sag_ich_nicht`	`that means nothing.`
`22:45.36`	`cog\|work`	`I work at a place where people randomly send us resumes... they get tossed ><`
`22:45.59`	`sag_ich_nicht`	`you need a good letter with the resume then :P`
`22:46.42`	`cog\|work`	`I'd need a REALLY good letter, 'cause my resume is mostly irrelevant except for the Skills section... education & work experience are completely unrelated`
`22:47.07`	`cog\|work`	`plus i'd have to convince them that i'd stop being a dick on the forums ><`
`22:47.40`	`cog\|work`	`(though, now that \|Jelly\|'s around, i may be able to :P )`
`22:47.41`	`sag_ich_nicht`	`lawl`
`22:47.46`	`sag_ich_nicht`	`heh`
`22:47.54`	`sag_ich_nicht`	`looks like they changed their policy though`
`22:48.15`	`sag_ich_nicht`	`they had a "but send us something anyway if you think you're really good"-like sentence on the jobs site somewhere`
`22:48.23`	`sag_ich_nicht`	`they don't anymore, more of the reverse`
`22:48.23`	`sag_ich_nicht`	`D:`
`22:48.31`	`sag_ich_nicht`	`\|Jelly\|`
`22:48.34`	`sag_ich_nicht`	`go make a troll post`
`22:48.49`	`sag_ich_nicht`	`"Slouken you need assistance, get them to hire some for you"`
`22:49.13`	`Tem\|Work`	`slouken isn't actually the "ui guy"`
`22:49.22`	`Tem\|Work`	`his job is elsewhere`
`22:49.38`	`Tem\|Work`	`spells, pathing, pet ai, I think`
`22:49.50`	`sag_ich_nicht`	`he's the only one really doing any work on the forums though :P`
`22:49.53`	`sag_ich_nicht`	`dev side`
`22:49.54`	`sag_ich_nicht`	`well`
`22:49.57`	`sag_ich_nicht`	`and eyonix`
`22:49.58`	`sag_ich_nicht`	`but`
`22:50.02`	`sag_ich_nicht`	`eyonix is well`
`22:50.05`	`sag_ich_nicht`	`a dick.`
`22:50.13`	`Tem\|Work`	`eyonix does not get SHIT for credit on the ui forums`
`22:50.38`	`sag_ich_nicht`	`i am talking about the forums in general`
`22:50.39`	`Tem\|Work`	`but he was cool guy during the end of beta event`
`22:50.44`	`Antiarc\|Work`	`I'd actually wondered about that. Slouken seems more like the guy that works on the C<->Lua interface than the actual implementation of the WoW UI.`
`22:50.50`	`Antiarc\|Work`	`So who writes the majority of the WoW UI code?`
`22:50.53`	`cog\|work`	`Antiarc\|Work: exactly`
`22:50.57`	`Tem\|Work`	`he joined our ui dev guild`
`22:50.58`	`cog\|work`	`they have other minions`
`22:51.15`	`cog\|work`	`artists & lua coders`
`22:51.16`	`Tem\|Work`	`and he ported to my level 45 shaman when I was stuck between a bunch of their spawned mobs`
`22:51.25`	`Tem\|Work`	`to one shot them for me`
`22:51.28`	`Tem\|Work`	`it was kinda cool`
`22:51.30`	`sag_ich_nicht`	`i remember beta shutdown`
`22:51.45`	`sag_ich_nicht`	`"HI I AM ONYXIA AND SHALL NOW COME OUT OF MY CAVE AND EAT EVERYONE"`
`22:52.06`	`kaiden`	`i want to see a sleeper like event in wow`
`22:52.07`	`sag_ich_nicht`	`infernals everywhere D:`
`22:52.09`	`kaiden`	`that'd be fun :)`
`22:52.31`	`sag_ich_nicht`	`wtb scourge invasion`
`22:52.35`	`sag_ich_nicht`	`also GM events`
`22:52.36`	`sag_ich_nicht`	`but noooooooo`
`22:53.14`	`kaiden`	`so i wonder if blizzard intends on revamping mc/bwl/aq/naxx`
`22:53.21`	`sag_ich_nicht`	`well`
`22:53.24`	`kaiden`	`since.. little to nobody goes there anymore`
`22:53.27`	`sag_ich_nicht`	`they intend on revamping gnomeregan.`
`22:53.30`	`Antiarc\|Work`	`I'd heard some rumor about them possibly upgrading Naxx to a level 70 zone.`
`22:53.41`	`sag_ich_nicht`	`(and that's not a joke either)`
`22:53.45`	`Antiarc\|Work`	`Which would be awesome, because I love Naxx.`
`22:53.51`	`sag_ich_nicht`	`lol naxx`
`22:54.08`	`kaiden`	`revamp the zone, make it a little less tough, change all the loot`
`22:54.13`	`sag_ich_nicht`	`nah`
`22:54.17`	`sag_ich_nicht`	`leave the toughness`
`22:54.34`	`sag_ich_nicht`	`naxx is naxx`
`22:54.44`	`sag_ich_nicht`	`just make it work for 25 people`
`22:54.46`	`sag_ich_nicht`	`not 40.`
`22:55.02`	`sag_ich_nicht`	`because you still need like 40 at 70 to get through naxx, unless you're really good`
`22:55.03`	`sag_ich_nicht`	`>_<`
`22:55.04`	`kaiden`	`i dunno, i really liked the idea of dungeon difficulty levels, but they didn't put enough work into it`
`22:55.35`	`kaiden`	`that should have had multiple tiers, not just 1 easy tier that gave pretty shit loot then 1 uber tier that you had to have the loot to get to`
`22:55.40`	`kaiden`	`they could do that with Naxx`
`22:56.59`	`sag_ich_nicht`	`WTB the following dungeons and places: uldum, the instance in the wetlands, the second stormwind prison, the BG in azshara`
`22:57.35`	`sag_ich_nicht`	`i forgot something`
`22:57.43`	`sag_ich_nicht`	`right, kingdoms south of silverpine`
`22:57.48`	`sag_ich_nicht`	`mirror karazhan`
`22:57.54`	`sag_ich_nicht`	`and uh`
`22:58.02`	`cog\|work`	`hyjal?`
`22:58.09`	`cog\|work`	`present-day`
`22:58.11`	`sag_ich_nicht`	`yeah but hyjal is borked :P`
`22:58.16`	`sag_ich_nicht`	`yeah hyjal`
`22:58.20`	`sag_ich_nicht`	`deathwings place`
`22:58.27`	`sag_ich_nicht`	`(or who ever else that cave belongs to :P)`
`22:58.38`	`sag_ich_nicht`	`uhm, the playertown or what ever the hell the other portal in stormwind is for`
`22:59.12`	`sag_ich_nicht`	`uhm... the instance that should be in the nightelf starting area in that cave`
`22:59.29`	`sag_ich_nicht`	`the story behind the naga in tanaris`
`22:59.57`	`sag_ich_nicht`	`continueing the burned down inn, the missing diplomat, eranikus chained esssence(and NOT the stupid thing from the AQ event)`
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`23:00.20`	`sag_ich_nicht`	`also emerald dream`
`23:00.41`	`sag_ich_nicht`	`also uhm.... wait, there is more, yeah, that furbolg keep`
`23:00.57`	`sag_ich_nicht`	`also the goblin capital`
`23:01.13`	`sag_ich_nicht`	`well yeah`
`23:01.17`	`sag_ich_nicht`	`fuck you and gimme blizz D:`
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`23:17.37`	`AnduinLothar`	`zomg traffic on google maps. win.`
`23:19.09`	`Tem\|Work`	`woot`
`23:19.11`	`Tem\|Work`	`darkrun`
`23:19.12`	`Tem\|Work`	`e`
`23:19.38`	`Tem\|Work`	`AnduinLothar, I like how on google traffic it basically just shows your entire area of the world as red`
`23:19.48`	`AnduinLothar`	`yeah..`
`23:21.23`	`AnduinLothar`	`bet it's no coincidence it's announced right before the iPhone is released`
`23:21.35`	`Tem\|Work`	`heh`
`23:21.42`	`Tem\|Work`	`it's been up for at least a month`
`23:22.09`	`AnduinLothar`	`right. draggable routes go up at the same time?`
`23:22.20`	`Tem\|Work`	`ah, no`
`23:22.33`	`Tem\|Work`	`I haven't messed with it at all because my area isn't supported`
`23:23.22`	`Antiarc\|Work`	`http://svn.wowace.com/wowace/trunk/Omen/Omen.lua looks right to me.`
`23:23.26`	`Antiarc\|Work`	`Err.`
`23:23.28`	`Antiarc\|Work`	`Wrong channel.`
`23:25.30`	`sag_ich_nicht`	`it might look right, but that doesn't change the fact that the commit is broken.`
`23:25.46`	`Antiarc\|Work`	`I'm just saying that I think it's the files script rather than the file I committed :P`
`23:26.08`	`sag_ich_nicht`	`well what ever file is on the fileserver right doesn't have the bug fixed it should have fixed :P`
`23:27.28`	`Antiarc\|Work`	`grin`
`23:27.36`	`Antiarc\|Work`	`I'll get to it when I get home :D`
`23:29.48`	`Tem\|Work`	`oh wow`
`23:29.56`	`Tem\|Work`	`I farmed 3k scryer rep yesterday`
`23:30.29`	`Tem\|Work`	`if I can keep that up, I'll be exalted in less than a week`
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`23:55.36`	`sag_ich_nicht`	`lol`
`23:55.38`	`sag_ich_nicht`	`daze explained`
`23:55.39`	`sag_ich_nicht`	`http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=115042266&sid=1`
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