00:00.39 | cladhaire | pastamancer: its really stupid the way it is right now, heh =) |
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00:06.31 | Kaelten | cladhaire: are you feeling ok, you seem to be talking to yourself |
00:08.02 | cladhaire | word |
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00:49.48 | batrick | is there a nice list on wowwiki of bgfiles to choose from for frames? |
00:49.54 | batrick | i can't find anything :S |
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01:02.44 | AnduinLothar | http://www.starcraft2.com/features/protoss/index.xml?tab=colossus war of the worlds? |
01:05.49 | Bleeter | wtf "Furries are shy people who normally sit in front of the computer playing World of Warcraft," says Howler, "and being a furry is a way to make friends." http://www.theregister.co.uk/2007/06/28/bay-area_furries/ |
01:09.50 | ckknight | ...no |
01:10.47 | AnduinLothar | that article is disturbing |
01:11.05 | ckknight | Bleeter: warcraft is nowhere in there... |
01:11.17 | ckknight | wait, more pages... |
01:11.25 | Bleeter | ckknight: yeah, it's the closing line on page 3 ;) |
01:12.33 | AnduinLothar | i dont know where the author's take or the subject itself is more disturbing tho |
01:13.09 | Bleeter | El Reg usually takes the piss outta their subjects, or if they wish to revist the topic later, hide the fact they're taking the piss ;) |
01:13.17 | Bleeter | *revisit |
01:21.11 | Mr_Rabies2 | what |
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01:22.06 | Fin | who |
01:22.42 | Fin | purl, tell Mr_Rabies2 about el reg |
01:22.52 | Mr_Rabies2 | someone's horribly misinformed as to what a furry is |
01:23.02 | Fin | ~furry |
01:23.24 | Mr_Rabies2 | i'm not going to read that whole article |
01:23.51 | Mr_Rabies2 | but yeah, they seemed to skim over the fact that 90% of them are drama bombs with persecution complexes :x |
01:29.46 | Mr_Rabies2 | dammit i need a better looking helm |
01:29.49 | Mr_Rabies2 | this one is AWFUL |
01:30.04 | Mr_Rabies2 | http://www.wowhead.com/?search=Helm+of+the+Claw |
01:30.39 | Mr_Rabies2 | hrm, i could get a cobrascale hood made |
01:33.36 | Corrodias | okay, our rogue and shadow priest keep getting disabled early in the prince fight |
01:33.42 | Corrodias | either by death for disconnection |
01:34.11 | Tem|Work | that's bad, mkay |
01:34.14 | Corrodias | yeah! |
01:34.20 | Corrodias | it's me and one enh shaman on dps at that point :P |
01:34.26 | Corrodias | oh, and the warlock |
01:34.31 | Corrodias | oh! and hunter |
01:34.34 | Tem|Work | you = ? |
01:34.34 | Corrodias | they're so quiet i don't notice them |
01:34.37 | Tem|Work | mage? |
01:34.38 | Corrodias | feral druid |
01:34.40 | Tem|Work | oh |
01:34.47 | Corrodias | they're back at range where i don't see them |
01:37.22 | Corrodias | this MM hunter who has a tallstrider |
01:37.45 | Corrodias | not terrible for a MM hunter i guess |
01:39.11 | Mr_Rabies2 | whoaa |
01:39.13 | Mr_Rabies2 | http://www.wowhead.com/?npc=23618 |
01:39.18 | Mr_Rabies2 | his voice freaked me out |
01:39.29 | Mr_Rabies2 | ride by a tauren and hear a little kid's voice as you click on him |
01:40.21 | Mr_Rabies2 | it threw me off so much |
01:40.34 | Wobin | Ahab? =) |
01:40.39 | Mr_Rabies2 | it's not a weird voice or anything, i was totally not expecting it though |
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01:44.16 | cladhaire | <PROTECTED> |
01:45.57 | Mr_Rabies2 | O_o |
01:46.36 | cladhaire | think I can pull it off? |
01:46.44 | Mr_Rabies2 | that's you? :o |
01:46.51 | cladhaire | for some value of "me".. yes. |
01:47.00 | cladhaire | horrible pictures, but you get the idea |
01:47.37 | Mr_Rabies2 | you've got the jawline to pull off the duke nukem/sarge look |
01:47.38 | Mr_Rabies2 | :p |
01:48.11 | cladhaire | hahahaha |
01:48.28 | cladhaire | my cowlick makes that more difficult |
01:48.45 | ckknight | just get a lot of gel and slick it straight up |
01:48.56 | cladhaire | yeah i'm not such a fan of that =/ |
01:49.14 | ckknight | then slick it back |
01:49.17 | cladhaire | I've definitely tried it.. but it only looks good for so long before whatever you use to put it up gets nasty |
01:49.27 | ckknight | ah |
01:49.28 | ckknight | hehe |
01:49.32 | Mr_Rabies2 | http://www.driverzone.cz/tapetygamesy/Duke_Nukem_004.jpg |
01:49.33 | Mr_Rabies2 | :p |
01:49.36 | ckknight | my hair's great |
01:49.39 | ckknight | so easy to work with |
01:49.57 | ckknight | yea, go for the duke nukem haircut |
01:49.57 | cladhaire | mine's good too, i always get told that.. I'm just hair retarded |
01:50.05 | Mr_Rabies2 | mine does its own thing, regardless |
01:50.21 | Mr_Rabies2 | and its own thing is hobohair |
01:50.28 | ckknight | lol |
01:50.34 | Shirik | I give up |
01:50.41 | Shirik | whenever I see "Ace is awesome" anymore, I'll just accept it |
01:50.44 | Shirik | I don't even care anymore |
01:51.12 | ckknight | no more fighting the good fight? |
01:51.16 | Mr_Rabies2 | that's like saying sony is awesome because of....ridge racer |
01:51.17 | |Jelly| | LUA |
01:51.19 | Mr_Rabies2 | or something |
01:51.20 | ckknight | oh, btw, Ace is awesome |
01:51.24 | |Jelly| | 8( |
01:51.25 | ckknight | :-P |
01:51.29 | Wobin | damnit where's krka? |
01:51.32 | ckknight | |Jelly|: ? |
01:51.47 | Wobin | Lua is not an acronym Jelly |
01:52.04 | |Jelly| | whew. |
01:52.08 | Shirik | Ace is ok. It is a very nice convenience, and it provides some nice features to users. |
01:52.15 | Shirik | It is NOT the solution to all problems, and it does not cure cancer. |
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01:52.29 | |Jelly| | It is and does too! |
01:52.30 | ckknight | hey, no one has proved that it _doesn't_ cure cancer |
01:52.36 | Shirik | authors know this |
01:52.38 | Shirik | unfortunately users do not |
01:52.43 | ckknight | yea |
01:53.13 | ckknight | I mean, the reason I got into Ace (1) in the first place as a developer was because of the standardization of the command line |
01:53.18 | cladhaire | Mr_Rabies: Duke Nukem added to the suggestions |
01:53.24 | Mr_Rabies2 | rofl |
01:53.39 | ckknight | as a user, its addons were more efficient on my system than the alternatives |
01:54.01 | Mr_Rabies2 | alternatively you could go for the anime school punk haircut |
01:54.37 | Wobin | cladhaire: I could also suggest the roman cut? Where it's a really short but straight fringe up front? |
01:54.43 | cladhaire | screenshot? |
01:54.46 | Wobin | hm |
01:55.30 | Mr_Rabies2 | which i can't find |
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01:58.16 | Mr_Rabies2 | i give up |
01:58.20 | Wobin | kinda like: http://www.temple.edu/photo/photographers/orkin/brando.JPG maybe? |
01:58.33 | Mr_Rabies2 | all the crazy anime thug hair is hiding from google images |
01:58.35 | Wobin | but not what I had originally envisaged |
02:00.24 | cladhaire | hrm. |
02:00.27 | cladhaire | that's scary =) |
02:00.33 | cladhaire | but i'll add it :P |
02:01.39 | cladhaire | Not sure that would work on me =) |
02:02.07 | Mr_Rabies2 | i vote this |
02:02.08 | Mr_Rabies2 | http://www.ccs.neu.edu/home/dskippy/pictures/half_hair.jpg |
02:03.04 | cladhaire | yikes |
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02:22.58 | zenzelezz | amusing, my pet gets more nature resist from my aura than I do |
02:24.36 | Shirik | yes |
02:24.43 | Shirik | because he gets your nature resist plus the aura |
02:24.53 | Shirik | meaning he gets about 30 from you, followed by another 70 from the aura |
02:25.04 | zenzelezz | what's the %, about 40? |
02:25.23 | Shirik | not quite sure, that sounds about right |
02:33.38 | Mr_Rabies2 | hrmmm |
02:33.54 | Mr_Rabies2 | my ace updater seems to be stuck in no externals mode |
02:33.55 | Mr_Rabies2 | O_o |
02:34.17 | Mr_Rabies2 | we shall see |
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02:52.19 | Mr_Rabies2 | okay, so my loading time difference is the same with or without standalonelibs |
02:52.29 | Mr_Rabies2 | time to go without because i'm tired of having 80 bajillion folders |
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03:06.05 | Thunder_Child | so 79 bajillion is ok? |
03:07.04 | Mr_Rabies2 | i went from like, 99 ace related ones to like, 40 |
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03:21.29 | InfernalRyan | Hi |
03:21.34 | Cairenn | hi |
03:21.41 | cogwheel | yo |
03:23.10 | InfernalRyan | hate to come in and just ask away but i had a question regarding map coords and how to translate them onto a world map =[ |
03:23.26 | Shirik | dhi |
03:23.28 | Shirik | er |
03:23.30 | Shirik | hi |
03:23.35 | Shirik | and hi Cairenn |
03:23.38 | Cairenn | :) |
03:23.57 | Shirik | InfernalRyan: what other purpose is there here than to ask questions? |
03:24.01 | Shirik | uh |
03:24.03 | Shirik | don't answer that |
03:24.05 | InfernalRyan | answer questions |
03:24.05 | Shirik | just ask your quesiton >< |
03:24.07 | InfernalRyan | =) |
03:24.23 | zenzelezz | Shirik: you know very well that we come here to worship Cairenn |
03:24.29 | Cairenn | lol |
03:24.43 | InfernalRyan | I'm wanting to mark a world map on a in-game coordinate |
03:24.53 | InfernalRyan | like, draw an icon or something |
03:25.21 | InfernalRyan | there's gotta be some kind of translation though from like, a mouse x,y coordinate and a game location x,y coordinate |
03:26.22 | InfernalRyan | anyone have any ideas? |
03:27.14 | Shirik | not really |
03:27.21 | InfernalRyan | this might be it |
03:27.21 | Shirik | other than math |
03:27.23 | InfernalRyan | http://www.wowwiki.com/UI_Coordinates |
03:27.26 | Shirik | yes |
03:27.27 | Shirik | but it's all math |
03:27.31 | InfernalRyan | =] |
03:27.45 | Shirik | x-y coordinates are nothing more than a percentage along the texture |
03:27.47 | InfernalRyan | ya i realize that but there are some offsets or something that need to be figured in |
03:28.01 | InfernalRyan | texture of a given zone map? |
03:28.06 | Shirik | yup |
03:28.10 | InfernalRyan | really? |
03:28.13 | Shirik | sure |
03:28.16 | Shirik | why do you think it goes from 0 to 1 |
03:28.42 | InfernalRyan | guess i was thinking more that the locs were made up from like 'imaginary' zone boundaries of the 3d world |
03:28.53 | MentalPower | InfernalRyan: Astrolabe |
03:28.56 | Shirik | you don't have access to the 3d coords at all |
03:29.17 | Shirik | what is considered the 3d xy coords are actually just a system invented by addon authors a long time ago |
03:29.25 | InfernalRyan | Shirik: was thinking of using that however I'm not a fan of 3rd party libraries |
03:29.29 | InfernalRyan | for support purposes |
03:29.34 | InfernalRyan | I like to know if it's broke i can fix it |
03:29.35 | Shirik | MentalPower recommended that :P |
03:29.45 | InfernalRyan | So forgive me for reinventing the wheel =] |
03:29.50 | Shirik | hey |
03:29.53 | Shirik | I'm a fan of doing the same |
03:29.59 | Shirik | I refuse to use CTL, ParserLib, and a bunch of other stuff |
03:30.25 | zenzelezz | he's a big fan of Ace though |
03:30.30 | Shirik | I hate you |
03:30.32 | MentalPower | parserLib I can understand |
03:30.35 | MentalPower | who, me? |
03:30.39 | MentalPower | err... no |
03:30.39 | Shirik | no, zenzelezz >< |
03:30.51 | Thrae | Eh? ParserLib-1.1 is made by rophy, it's the ParserLib-3.0 which is ckknight's Ace'd version. |
03:31.09 | MentalPower | CTL on the other hand, theres no reason not to use it |
03:31.22 | zenzelezz | Thrae: no-one said anything about an Ace ParserLib |
03:31.24 | Shirik | other than the fact that what I have already works and there's no good reason for me to switch |
03:32.03 | MentalPower | We've gone thru this so I won't start again, but you already know the case where your replacement will break |
03:32.07 | Thrae | Shirik: Well, rophy was very, very careful to try and get ParserLib-1.1 working for ALL localizations |
03:32.08 | Shirik | yeh |
03:32.14 | Shirik | I know, no point to start this all over again |
03:32.23 | Thrae | If you don't care about that, then that's fine |
03:32.26 | ckknight | CTL isn't Ace |
03:32.35 | MentalPower | I know that |
03:32.39 | MentalPower | and so does Shirik |
03:32.40 | Shirik | never said it was ? |
03:32.42 | zenzelezz | guys, Shirik said nothing about Ace |
03:32.43 | zenzelezz | I DID |
03:32.47 | zenzelezz | so stop it |
03:33.15 | InfernalRyan | Well i'm going to look into the coord thing a bit more |
03:33.19 | Thrae | Shirik: You know, you could always help rophy and Mikk develop their libs instead of branching out on your own -- that way you start with a proven framework |
03:33.23 | Shirik | this is the same discussion all over again so no point in doing it again |
03:33.36 | InfernalRyan | thanks for the help i'll stick around |
03:33.38 | InfernalRyan | =] |
03:33.40 | Shirik | no problem |
03:33.40 | ckknight | actually, Thrae, ParserLib doesn't work on all localizations, due to Blizzard's evil ambiguous globalstrings |
03:34.12 | Shirik | Thrae: I'm not going to go out and say "hey do you want help on ____"; if someone asks for help I'd typically offer it but I don't want to go sticking my nose into things that aren't mine, it's rude imho |
03:34.58 | Thrae | ckknight: Which is why rophy has some locale-specific strings from his testing, but he hasn't done a lot on it lately |
03:35.00 | zenzelezz | I'd say it's only rude if you go saying "hey, you should do this [...]" |
03:35.59 | ckknight | Thrae: Parser-3.0 has the same stuff... |
03:36.11 | ckknight | *shrug* |
03:36.31 | MentalPower | InfernalRyan: FYI, Astrolabe is released on an OpenSource license and you can modify it to your hearts desire |
03:36.51 | Thrae | Shirik: "Hey, because I want to use your lib in my addon, can I assist in the development of your lib, for the sake of both of us?" <-- that's rude? |
03:37.35 | Thrae | ckknight: I thought the discussion was "I don't want to use Ace libraries", but I was wrong. I was only saying ParserLib-1.1 was not Ace, not that it was better then ParserLib-3.0. |
03:37.52 | Shirik | in my personal opinion, yes. Potentially not to some, but there are those that can be very posessive of their code |
03:38.05 | ckknight | Thrae: ah, okay |
03:38.08 | Shirik | Not me, really, but I know there are some that are |
03:38.32 | ckknight | anyone is feel free to hack on my stuff :-P |
03:39.36 | Thrae | Shirik: If people take offense at things obviously not ment in any way to be derogatory, then that's -there- fault, not yours. I believe, including real life, that people who are oversensitive or paranoid should NOT be coddled. |
03:39.58 | Shirik | coddled? |
03:40.09 | Shirik | ~dict coddled |
03:51.34 | MentalPower | #char us alleria mentak |
03:54.49 | Thunder_Child | Thrae is right Shirik, do NOT fondle them...however much fun it may be |
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04:36.48 | Shirik | Thunder_Child >< |
04:44.17 | Thunder_Child | heh |
04:44.31 | Thunder_Child | well thats what it said |
04:44.37 | Shirik | hey um, random comment |
04:44.38 | Thunder_Child | dont blame me |
04:44.40 | Shirik | http://www.guardianhq.com |
04:44.46 | Shirik | does that offline message look ok? |
04:45.03 | Shirik | it looks kinda... blah to me |
04:45.12 | Thunder_Child | it works |
04:45.19 | Shirik | it does work |
04:46.39 | Thunder_Child | but i'm the kind of person that would put on a msg like, cant you see we are busy, come back later...and stop knocking at the web addy |
04:46.46 | Shirik | lol |
04:50.03 | InfernalRyan | nice |
04:50.09 | InfernalRyan | thanks for the help w/ the coords |
04:50.52 | InfernalRyan | i've got a good enough handle on them that i feel comfortable using em |
04:51.04 | Shirik | cool cool |
04:51.12 | Shirik | just be aware blizzard really doesn't want to give us any of that |
04:51.23 | Shirik | if you saw the amount of work I went through just to make an altimeter/artifical horizon |
04:52.03 | Shirik | so, basically, everything you want to do with coords always stems from the map |
04:52.08 | Shirik | and you have to do the calculations from there |
04:52.42 | norganna | how could you possibly do an altimeter? |
04:52.51 | Shirik | mostly, it's a guess |
04:52.55 | Shirik | but a rather complex guess |
04:53.15 | Shirik | I should point out, however, that it works as an altimeter, not as an altitude indicator |
04:54.15 | Nom- | You last visited: Yesterday at 11:59 PM |
04:54.16 | Nom- | LIES |
04:54.32 | Nom- | I was watching the end of the Transformers movie at that time! |
04:54.33 | Nom- | :D |
04:55.28 | InfernalRyan | nice, tihs works like a charm =] |
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06:05.20 | MentalPower | is there a table.concat equivalent for perl? |
06:06.33 | Shirik | ya |
06:08.10 | Shirik | `echo table.concat(table, {1,2,3}); | lua` |
06:08.12 | Shirik | =P |
06:08.25 | MentalPower | ~lart Shirik |
06:08.25 | purl | pours hot grits down the front of Shirik's pants |
06:08.29 | Shirik | ^^ |
06:08.35 | MentalPower | :P |
06:08.40 | Shirik | on that note I know almost nothing about perl, sorry :( |
06:08.45 | Shirik | and on that note, time for befd |
06:08.47 | Shirik | bed too |
06:09.53 | Shirik | hm, I guess more accurately that would be |
06:10.23 | Shirik | nah that was right, nm |
06:10.25 | Shirik | time for bed |
06:10.48 | MentalPower | night Shirik |
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06:42.03 | Tem | hmm |
06:42.10 | Tem | CANES CHICKEN |
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07:02.33 | ckknight | gah, where's Iriel? |
07:02.43 | ckknight | I want to yell at him for making secure frames so damn complex |
07:02.46 | ckknight | lousy pie |
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07:02.56 | krka | hm, where can i find astrolabe? |
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07:06.29 | MentalPower | krka: Gatherer SVN |
07:07.42 | krka | ah i see |
07:07.42 | MentalPower | ~gatherersvn |
07:07.43 | purl | You can get the gatherer SVN from http://norganna.org/svn/gatherer/trunk ( See also ~svn and ~tortoisesvn ) |
07:07.43 | krka | i ignore purl, but thanks :) |
07:07.54 | MentalPower | [02:07:20]<purl>You can get the gatherer SVN from http://norganna.org/svn/gatherer/trunk ( See also ~svn and ~tortoisesvn ) |
07:09.16 | krka | finally got wow up and running |
07:09.23 | krka | time to do some more coding |
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07:17.55 | krka | weird... astrolabe seems to run code that depends on the activate function, before the activate function can be run |
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07:25.31 | MentalPower | krka: what line? |
07:27.45 | krka | line 1171: for continent, zones in pairs(Astrolabe.ContinentList) do |
07:27.57 | krka | defined in: newInstance.ContinentList = { GetMapContinents() }; |
07:28.13 | krka | ah no wait |
07:28.14 | krka | sorry |
07:28.23 | krka | i think it's actually called before |
07:28.28 | krka | here: DongleStub:Register(Astrolabe, activate) |
07:28.34 | krka | never mind :) |
07:29.33 | MentalPower | yup |
07:29.53 | MentalPower | hmm... I just noticed that your name is mentioned krka :) |
07:31.47 | krka | yeah |
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07:48.23 | Tem | huh? |
07:48.33 | Tem | whos name is mentioned in kz? |
07:48.41 | Tem | and in what context? |
07:49.18 | MentalPower | Tem: look at the top of the Astrolabe source file |
07:49.48 | Tem | oh |
07:50.05 | Tem | I read "krka" in your line as "kara" |
07:50.13 | Tem | hence my confusion |
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09:34.13 | Mike-N-Go | Anyone here skilled with Gatherer, I have been having trouble with figuring out how to share my whole database to a single target, although I have tired in #norganna, everyone there is idling. I have looked at http://norganna.org/wiki/Gatherer/Options but that only has a 'To Do' sticky, anyone have insight on this? |
09:36.16 | Mike-N-Go | Oh, I had to press 'mark these' I think that did it.. |
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10:25.50 | pakoz | yo |
10:26.05 | pakoz | anyone know how to lock/unlock elkano's buff bars |
10:26.41 | [Ammo] | from the fubar lugin |
10:26.44 | [Ammo] | +p |
10:26.49 | N00bZXI | <PROTECTED> |
10:26.52 | [Ammo] | it's show anchor |
10:27.01 | [Ammo] | the option you're looking for |
10:27.22 | [Ammo] | if you're talking EBBs, if you're talking EBB (the old one) then it's /ebb locked or something |
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10:28.38 | pakoz | ./ebb lock unlock wont work |
10:28.45 | pakoz | i just wanna move it lol |
10:29.10 | N00bZXI | Which one are you using? |
10:29.13 | N00bZXI | New one or old one? |
10:29.29 | pakoz | new |
10:30.00 | N00bZXI | Then it should print all slashes when you type ebb so you can find the command |
10:30.08 | pakoz | ya it doesnt lol |
10:30.21 | pakoz | config hide about |
10:30.26 | pakoz | i cnat find it in config list |
10:30.48 | N00bZXI | Is the fubar plugin shown? |
10:31.30 | pakoz | i dont use fubar |
10:31.38 | N00bZXI | Then it's probably a minimap button instead |
10:31.49 | pakoz | i see it |
10:31.51 | pakoz | thats the config menu |
10:31.57 | pakoz | i cant find unlock/lock in config |
10:32.26 | N00bZXI | [14:26:54]<[Ammo]>it's show anchor |
10:32.31 | N00bZXI | Try looking for that |
10:33.26 | pakoz | i have been |
10:34.08 | N00bZXI | I'm not sure then :( |
10:35.07 | pakoz | :( |
10:35.23 | zenzelezz | if you stick around Elkano might show up |
10:35.30 | zenzelezz | (or someone that knows the answer) |
10:35.40 | pakoz | got it |
10:36.34 | pakoz | it was the anchor |
10:36.39 | pakoz | i just couldnt find it ;x |
10:36.45 | zenzelezz | hehe |
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10:44.02 | sag_ich_nicht | heh |
10:44.03 | sag_ich_nicht | Shirik|zZz |
10:44.04 | sag_ich_nicht | wake up |
10:44.14 | sag_ich_nicht | and take a look at GPSLib if you don't know it yet :P |
10:46.11 | foxlit | http://wowi.pastey.net/70038 |
10:46.56 | foxlit | Question is described in pastey; mainly has to do with table.insert being weird |
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10:49.22 | foxlit | nvm |
10:49.57 | foxlit | t = {}, table.insert(t, 1, 1); -- t[1] == nil; table.insert appears to do nothing when called that way on a blank table |
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10:52.45 | krka | foxlit: that's not how my lua works |
10:52.53 | foxlit | really? |
10:52.56 | krka | really |
10:53.24 | krka | > t = {}; table.insert(t, 1, 1); print(t[1]) |
10:53.27 | krka | returns 1 |
10:53.38 | foxlit | sec, looking up insert syntax |
10:54.12 | foxlit | It's actually table.insert(table, position, entry) :( |
10:54.39 | krka | yeah |
10:54.43 | foxlit | Which explains everything -- I actually used 2, 1 to check |
10:54.44 | krka | i consider that a design flaw |
10:55.02 | krka | it is inconsistent with table.insert(table, entrt) |
10:55.02 | foxlit | Don't like optional arguments being inserted in the middle of things |
10:55.06 | krka | agreed |
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11:45.37 | N00bZXI | Is there a way I can get if any text is highlighted in a chat frame? |
11:46.48 | JoshBorke | you can't highlight chat frames, they are message frames |
11:46.59 | JoshBorke | or so i thought |
11:49.23 | JoshBorke | perhaps you mean editbox? |
11:53.07 | Mike-N-Go | Anyone know about using /castsequence with spell ranks? |
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12:18.20 | sag_ich_nicht | i now definitifly have figure out what is wrong with women |
12:18.40 | sag_ich_nicht | their brain only supports UDP, but not TCP D: |
12:21.39 | nevcairiel | so they can receive and send to anyone, but not establish a real connection ? :P |
12:23.07 | Zicon | Funny, I thought that was the most common female gripe about males... |
12:24.00 | krka | you mean that women talk in weird ordering and skip vital messages? |
12:26.23 | Josh_Borke | krka wins |
12:26.54 | Zicon | I have no idea what you're talking about. Also, cake! |
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12:34.24 | sag_ich_nicht | [14:24] <krka> you mean that women talk in weird ordering and skip vital messages? <--and they don't send ACK packages on a SYN. |
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12:38.40 | sag_ich_nicht | mhm |
12:39.00 | Josh_Borke | you guys make me sad sometimes |
12:40.42 | zenzelezz | I made up something like that eons ago; except I just spoke of how my TCP implementation wasn't compatible with that of girls... something about bind(), listen() and connect() |
12:42.21 | Josh_Borke | failure to bind and connect? |
12:47.10 | zenzelezz | bah, I'm stuck in combat on the Ogri'la plateau, but there's nothing attacking me |
12:47.19 | N00bZXI | Hearthstone? |
12:47.52 | zenzelezz | CD |
12:48.39 | norganna | Worst part is when they send a FIN, you ACK, and send a FIN back, but they don't ACK, and leave you in a FIN_WAIT_2 state... |
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12:52.23 | Cairenn | :) |
12:52.35 | Josh_Borke | i have got to say that compiz = sex |
12:52.44 | norganna | ya |
12:52.49 | norganna | tis true |
12:53.01 | Josh_Borke | except the bug where i can't open new windows, that kinda sucks |
12:53.19 | zenzelezz | funny, "kompis" is Norwegian slang for "buddy" |
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12:54.17 | lolinternet | [14:48] <+norganna> Worst part is when they send a FIN, you ACK, and send a FIN back, but they don't ACK, and leave you in a FIN_WAIT_2 state... <--yes. |
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12:56.09 | norganna | phew... i was thinking it flew over everyone's heads there for a sec |
12:57.06 | sag_ich_nicht | disconnect |
12:57.09 | sag_ich_nicht | DSL being a jerk |
12:57.16 | N00bZXI_ | same |
12:58.16 | sag_ich_nicht | I think it's worse if they send a SYN, you SYN-ACK, but they don't ACK back |
12:58.42 | norganna | heheh |
12:59.02 | norganna | although apparently it's possible to do a two-way connect, i heard |
12:59.33 | sag_ich_nicht | if both sides were to send a SYN-ACK at the same exact time i guess(maybe) |
12:59.37 | norganna | you can apperently connect with a SYN+ACK, and they SYN+ACK back for a ultra-fast connect |
12:59.50 | sag_ich_nicht | or that |
13:00.35 | norganna | actually, some DOS attacks use the SYN+ACK connect to speed up the attack, since it's completely legit TCP/IP |
13:01.16 | norganna | anyhow, I must away.. the weekend calls me |
13:01.18 | norganna | RST |
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14:20.41 | TS|Skrom | morning |
14:21.21 | deltron | howdy |
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14:34.15 | SpiderFLS | hi |
14:35.17 | deltron | hi |
14:35.33 | SpiderFLS | i have a little problem with localization... how do i localize the "gains" in this code? string.find(arg1, "(%a) gains (%a)") |
14:36.03 | pastamancer | localize the entire string |
14:36.18 | pastamancer | string.find(arg1, L["(%a) gains (%a)") |
14:37.09 | SpiderFLS | hmm |
14:37.41 | SpiderFLS | i dont really understand what you do there o_O |
14:37.52 | pastamancer | you're using AceLocale, right? |
14:38.05 | SpiderFLS | no |
14:38.12 | pastamancer | oh wait, wrong channel |
14:38.19 | SpiderFLS | ok:D |
14:38.26 | foxlit | Your pattern is flawed either way |
14:38.29 | pastamancer | well, you can still localize the entire string |
14:38.42 | SpiderFLS | whats flawed about it? |
14:38.58 | foxlit | lua> string.find("Someone gains an aura.", "(%a) gains (%a)") |
14:39.19 | foxlit | 7 15 e a |
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14:40.58 | SpiderFLS | and what should that tell me? o_O |
14:42.04 | foxlit | Just an example of what you're capturing :) |
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14:43.37 | TS|Skrom | I like teknicolor |
14:43.46 | SpiderFLS | yes thats what it does^^ well i did that a long time ago and i needed a way to locate the positions of the letters... |
14:43.57 | TS|Skrom | but I don't like that names don't get colored til you open the guild list or see the person every time |
14:44.05 | TS|Skrom | is there one that does that, but saves the info ? |
14:44.11 | foxlit | Prat! |
14:44.17 | TS|Skrom | ugh |
14:44.18 | foxlit | (which is evil) |
14:44.22 | SpiderFLS | so can you tell me how to lacalize it? |
14:44.24 | kaiden | prat's not evil! |
14:44.30 | kaiden | it's made from sunshine and skittles |
14:44.31 | foxlit | Prat's very evil. |
14:44.31 | TS|Skrom | nothing against prat or other things but the only chat mod I want is the coloring |
14:44.35 | TS|Skrom | I don't need anything else |
14:44.45 | nevcairiel | prat simply has way too much |
14:44.48 | foxlit | So disable all other modules? :) |
14:44.55 | deltron | I like prat :( |
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14:45.01 | Shirik|zZz | sag_ich_nicht? |
14:45.03 | nevcairiel | i liked idChat |
14:45.07 | foxlit | I spent 4 hours figuring out how to work around Prat. |
14:45.11 | nevcairiel | not what has become of it :P |
14:45.20 | kaiden | nevcairiel, shouldn't you be working on bartender 4? *(eyes you)* ;p |
14:45.26 | nevcairiel | nah |
14:45.30 | nevcairiel | i am working on my linux box |
14:45.31 | kaiden | darn.. i tried |
14:45.31 | Shirik|zZz | foxlit: missing the + |
14:45.35 | Shirik|zZz | (%a+) |
14:45.42 | foxlit | (not my pattern) |
14:45.44 | Shirik|zZz | I guess that';s SpiderFLS |
14:46.11 | SpiderFLS | how can i localize it?^^ |
14:46.28 | Shirik | similarly it is generally recommended that those patterns actually be "([%S]+) gains ([%S]+)" |
14:46.46 | Shirik | you would make that a variable instead |
14:46.47 | foxlit | Blessing of Salvation? |
14:46.47 | Shirik | such as |
14:47.05 | Shirik | L["AURA_GAINED"] = "([%S]+) gains ([%S]+)" |
14:47.22 | Shirik | then string.find(arg1, L["AURA_GAINED"]) |
14:47.29 | SpiderFLS | oh i see |
14:47.37 | SpiderFLS | <PROTECTED> |
14:48.04 | Shirik | np :) |
14:48.17 | krka | why the [] around %S? |
14:49.20 | nevcairiel | and why capital s ? |
14:49.31 | foxlit | complement to %s |
14:49.35 | Shirik | uh |
14:49.37 | krka | because it's inverse of %s |
14:49.39 | Shirik | I don't know why the [] |
14:49.40 | Shirik | heh |
14:49.42 | nevcairiel | ah nvm |
14:49.47 | nevcairiel | i mixed the pattern up again |
14:49.55 | Shirik | because I was originally doing [^%s]+ |
14:49.55 | nevcairiel | i should print those and tape to my screen |
14:50.01 | Shirik | and then I hit backspace and changed it to %S |
14:50.05 | Shirik | without removing the [] |
14:50.12 | foxlit | sux! |
14:50.32 | foxlit | Bet that's like 0.00000001s of extra processing item |
14:50.38 | foxlit | s/item/time/ |
14:50.39 | Shirik | sorry :( |
14:50.42 | Shirik | I make your addons slow |
14:50.53 | foxlit | Clearly you should use Ace :) |
14:51.15 | foxlit | (So when is LOLACERDX coming out?) |
14:51.17 | krka | i think ace automatically strips away redundant [] |
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14:54.29 | Shirik | anyone here use firebug? |
14:55.45 | Shirik | rofl! I added a breakpoint, then ran the code I expected to bug out, and got "firefox.exe has encountered a problem and needs to close. We are sorry for the inconvenience." |
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15:01.51 | TS|Skrom | combat log mod - name me a couple |
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15:06.50 | |Jelly| | So what's with the influx of holier than thou people on the forums being against compilations and people emulating other's uis? |
15:07.04 | |Jelly| | By the way...AWAKE! 8P |
15:07.13 | Shirik | hai |
15:07.17 | Shirik | yeah, I gave up really |
15:07.30 | N00bZXI | I'm gonna go sleep soon |
15:07.36 | N00bZXI | :\ |
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15:07.42 | |Jelly| | Seriously...I haven't seen a truly unique UI in...forever? |
15:07.43 | TS|Skrom | |Jelly| !! |
15:07.54 | |Jelly| | And even then, there's only a handfull. |
15:07.56 | N00bZXI | Neither have I |
15:08.13 | N00bZXI | All UI's look somewhat like something someone made some time ago |
15:08.27 | N00bZXI | s/All/Almost All |
15:08.30 | N00bZXI | bleh |
15:08.41 | Dakous | Nothing new under the sun. |
15:08.42 | N00bZXI | Almost all* |
15:08.44 | TS|Skrom | |Jelly| hai2u |
15:08.45 | |Jelly| | GG. You can cluster shit at the bottom of your screen (like everyone else), call it unique and bitch at people that like how theirs look |
15:08.56 | |Jelly| | Hey Skrom. Sorry...I'm on a little rant here. lol |
15:09.05 | TS|Skrom | I see |
15:09.09 | TS|Skrom | logging in now to view it |
15:09.33 | |Jelly| | I haven't posted. lol |
15:09.36 | |Jelly| | Just reading |
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15:12.10 | |Jelly| | If "Of" is in here...gg retreating. |
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15:15.34 | N00bZXI | |Jelly|: :( |
15:15.52 | |Jelly| | 8P |
15:15.59 | N00bZXI | I could link mine since I haven't seen any like it but I don't think -that'd- be a good idea.. |
15:16.13 | |Jelly| | link it here. i wanna see it so i can rip it off. |
15:16.25 | |Jelly| | I MEAN... |
15:16.26 | |Jelly| | umm |
15:16.28 | |Jelly| | shit |
15:16.55 | N00bZXI | I can link last SS although no player/target frame anymore, using hud only |
15:17.18 | N00bZXI | actually, I'd rather not, since more than that has changed |
15:17.23 | |Jelly| | still trying to be minimalist, eh? |
15:18.45 | N00bZXI | ...if you remember why are you asking for a SS |
15:18.45 | |Jelly| | Cause I change my UI almost weekly. |
15:18.50 | foxlit | howwwible! |
15:18.57 | N00bZXI | I' |
15:19.23 | N00bZXI | 've used the same UI (with a few things changing here and there) for.. as long as I can remember? |
15:19.42 | |Jelly| | Obviously not... |
15:19.44 | N00bZXI | Actually, I've used it since my rogue, and that's quite a long time ago |
15:19.54 | |Jelly| | ...since so many things have changed that you'd rather not link an old screenshot. |
15:20.20 | |Jelly| | But irregardless, I'm not trying to argue with you. 8P |
15:20.21 | N00bZXI | http://ctscreens.net/2497 |
15:20.23 | N00bZXI | there you go |
15:20.35 | |Jelly| | I'm not even going to click on it now. |
15:20.37 | |Jelly| | !!! |
15:21.21 | TS|Skrom | I will |
15:21.43 | N00bZXI | That can't be older than 1.12 |
15:21.46 | TS|Skrom | nice looking, simple |
15:22.04 | TS|Skrom | You've got too many buttons on your bar for a rogue though |
15:22.14 | N00bZXI | Not a rogue anymore |
15:22.33 | N00bZXI | That toon's now 70 and only for posting on forums |
15:25.04 | sag_ich_nicht | [16:45] <Shirik|zZz> sag_ich_nicht? <-- ping |
15:25.11 | Shirik | pong? |
15:25.18 | sag_ich_nicht | hello Shirik |
15:25.29 | Shirik | 062:442:10 12‹sag_ich_nicht12› Shirik|zZz |
15:25.29 | Shirik | 12[#wowi-lounge12] - 12[29/06/200712] |
15:25.30 | Shirik | hi |
15:26.02 | sag_ich_nicht | because we were talking about position maps in instances and syncing a few days ago |
15:26.24 | sag_ich_nicht | well, take a look at GPSlib(or for a more pratical[and awesome] work, dungeoncrawler) |
15:26.56 | sag_ich_nicht | (wowace svn :P) |
15:27.26 | Shirik | ok |
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15:36.03 | sag_ich_nicht | heh |
15:37.14 | Shirik | I don't like how he uses 140 columns before a line break |
15:37.17 | Shirik | in his comments |
15:37.25 | Shirik | i.e., assuming people are running at 1280x1024 :P |
15:38.06 | TS|Skrom | wow, trimmed my stuff down to 113 mod folders |
15:38.18 | TS|Skrom | yay lol |
15:38.24 | N00bZXI | :O |
15:38.33 | Antiarc|Work | 1920x1200 for life, yo |
15:38.49 | sag_ich_nicht | Display Resolution: 1680x1050x32bpp 60Hz |
15:39.18 | N00bZXI | I wanted to get a 1024x768 monitor after using a laptop for a few years but couldn't find one, was too small apparantly |
15:39.33 | N00bZXI | Using 1280x1024 atm |
15:39.34 | Shirik | that's um |
15:39.36 | Shirik | pretty impressive actually |
15:39.46 | Josh_Borke | Shirik: his gpslib? |
15:39.47 | Josh_Borke | yea it is |
15:39.52 | Shirik | yeah |
15:39.53 | Josh_Borke | i still don't understand it |
15:39.54 | |Jelly| | I've never seen a monitor that wouldn't go to 1024x768. lol |
15:40.28 | sag_ich_nicht | [17:39] <Josh_Borke> Shirik: his gpslib? <--not mine, but i stumbled upon it :P |
15:40.33 | N00bZXI | I mean natively |
15:40.40 | Josh_Borke | yea, i know who wrote it |
15:41.02 | deltron | i'm 80x24! |
15:41.15 | Shirik | hopefully that's col x lines |
15:41.17 | Shirik | and not pixels |
15:41.18 | deltron | :) |
15:41.20 | deltron | yeah |
15:41.36 | Cide | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tBj4Ny19vfQ |
15:41.40 | Shirik | but only reason I commented on that is because it's generally considered good practice to not go beyond 80 columns |
15:41.47 | Shirik | most IDEs even have a line at 80 so you don't pass it |
15:41.54 | Cide | yep |
15:42.02 | Josh_Borke | meh, i do whatever is convenient :-) |
15:42.33 | Shirik | but see that's the point, 80 is convenient for everyone; you will always (usually) have that width no matter what resolution you're in, whether you're in a text-based environment or a graphical one, etc. |
15:42.37 | |Jelly| | cog|work: I <3 you |
15:42.46 | cog|work | I <3 me too |
15:42.47 | Shirik | i.e., myself whom had to scroll every 2 lines to read his comments :P |
15:42.50 | Shirik | rofl |
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15:43.28 | |Jelly| | I'm waiting for a response on that. |
15:43.34 | |Jelly| | Cause IMO, you nailed this conversation. |
15:43.44 | sag_ich_nicht | Shirik just use autowrap with wrapmarkers :P |
15:44.00 | Hador | Hi |
15:44.06 | cog|work | hello |
15:44.06 | |Jelly| | Hi |
15:44.10 | Shirik | hi |
15:44.52 | Shirik | so |Jelly| |
15:44.54 | Shirik | what did cog|work do? |
15:44.55 | |Jelly| | *waits for the question to ask a question* |
15:45.00 | |Jelly| | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=114722044&sid=1&pageNo=2 |
15:45.26 | cog|work | s/g/j/ |
15:46.26 | Hador | I've got a little question obout programming a WoW-addon: is it possible to overwrite the wow-invite function with an function in my own addon? |
15:46.36 | Shirik | yes |
15:46.49 | Hador | how is it possible ;-) |
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15:46.50 | Shirik | but you have to be aware of the implications of that |
15:47.00 | cog|work | http://www.wowwiki.com/Category:HOWTOs |
15:47.07 | cog|work | look under H |
15:47.14 | N00bZXI | You can except anytime anything else calls it it could cause problems |
15:47.14 | cog|work | for hooking functions |
15:47.21 | N00bZXI | Since other addons don't expect it be overwritten |
15:47.24 | Shirik | you're intending to do InviteUnit() ? |
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15:51.20 | |Jelly| | lol |
15:51.34 | Hador | let me discribe wat i want to do |
15:51.39 | |Jelly| | And again "Of" makes a dildo of himself. |
15:51.56 | Shirik | I never seen him before |
15:52.07 | |Jelly| | Oh, I meant in one thread. |
15:52.09 | Hador | ive got a function who sends to the party-leader a request to invite some player |
15:52.32 | Shirik | oh |
15:52.37 | Hador | this function is now called by the slash-cammand /inviter xy |
15:52.48 | Shirik | ok, so how does it send that request? |
15:52.52 | N00bZXI | You want it to be called by invite instead? |
15:52.53 | Shirik | SendAddonMessage() ? |
15:53.16 | N00bZXI | You might want to hook the slash command instead (assuming it's not secure) |
15:54.00 | Hador | but this function should be called when the original slash-commands for the invitation of an player (/i /inv /invite, ...) are typed |
15:54.09 | Shirik | ah |
15:54.20 | Hador | and if someone rightclicked on an caracter and selects invite |
15:54.24 | Shirik | well you can hook InviteUnit as you originally intended |
15:54.43 | Shirik | that function doesn't need to be secure so |
15:55.16 | Hador | so inviteunit is directly called by the slashcommands? |
15:55.25 | Shirik | should be |
15:55.30 | Shirik | though there's a way to find out |
15:55.32 | Hador | and the rightclick? |
15:55.53 | Shirik | again, should be, but there's a way to find out for sure |
15:56.45 | Hador | k i try it (first i let wow write s.th. in the chat) than i should see if this is right |
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15:59.12 | Hador | thx for help |
15:59.20 | Hador | i'll try it |
15:59.24 | Shirik | =) |
15:59.28 | Shirik | nice idea btw |
16:01.01 | sag_ich_nicht | Shirik |
16:01.16 | sag_ich_nicht | wait |
16:01.16 | sag_ich_nicht | nvm |
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16:01.34 | Hador | i think in the next days i will come here again and ask one mor question, as i momentary dont now how to programm a countdown because there is now timer in wow. But it also might be that i will find it out by myself ;-) |
16:01.41 | Hador | cu |
16:03.28 | Shirik | take care :) |
16:05.50 | Shirik | in other news, a DoS (application crash) vulnerability has been found in RDX.Cid today! |
16:05.56 | Shirik | fun times |
16:07.52 | Josh_Borke | gj |
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16:08.40 | Shirik | |Jelly|: My circles aren't round enough |
16:08.55 | deltron | doh |
16:08.56 | Shirik | I don't want my circumference/diameter to == 3.14 |
16:09.29 | Shirik | my ratio of circumference to diameter should be equal to the pi'th root of pi ^ pi |
16:09.56 | |Jelly| | Shirik: I hate you so bad. |
16:12.23 | Shirik | I know :) |
16:12.35 | Shirik | I'm just trying to blow time while my forums are rebuilt |
16:12.40 | |Jelly| | But hate being the cycle that is it; <333 |
16:12.42 | Shirik | I have to recount/rebuild every single post on the forums |
16:12.48 | Shirik | and we have over 100k posts |
16:12.51 | |Jelly| | umm. no? |
16:12.52 | Shirik | and this is taking forever |
16:12.53 | |Jelly| | lol |
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16:13.25 | Shirik | maybe I should work on that rat kill counter |
16:13.27 | Shirik | but I suck at GUIs |
16:13.37 | |Jelly| | I think you should work on. |
16:13.39 | |Jelly| | ... |
16:13.41 | |Jelly| | errm... |
16:13.43 | |Jelly| | nevermind |
16:14.00 | Shirik | think "Exterminator" is a good name? |
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16:14.13 | |Jelly| | Could it count all "critters" ? |
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16:14.24 | Shirik | ya |
16:14.27 | Shirik | that's what it will do |
16:14.31 | |Jelly| | Cause in that case, yeah. |
16:14.38 | cog|work | should only count level one critters imo |
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16:14.55 | cog|work | plus cows |
16:14.57 | Shirik | morning Cairenn |
16:14.57 | Kaelten | g'morning |
16:15.02 | Shirik | it will be only lv 1 critters |
16:15.04 | Cairenn | hi again |
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16:15.10 | Shirik | cows? |
16:15.16 | cog|work | aren't cows like level 5? |
16:15.17 | |Jelly| | Yes. Cows. |
16:15.58 | Shirik | I love how ctrl+a no longer selects all |
16:15.58 | Shirik | wtf |
16:16.08 | Shirik | oh no |
16:16.19 | Shirik | just my selection highlight for some reason is invisible |
16:16.19 | Shirik | wtf |
16:17.14 | |Jelly| | i hate herbalism in the face |
16:24.02 | |Jelly| | I love how it's only the low level alts that attempt to be smartasses. I think by default, the forums should use your highest /played character. ! |
16:24.15 | Shirik | then I couldn't be a BE :( |
16:24.24 | |Jelly| | small price to pay |
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16:28.32 | TS|Skrom | I'm gonna go log into my lowest alt and make an @|Jelly| thread, brb |
16:28.38 | |Jelly| | rofl |
16:29.07 | TS|Skrom | today's friday |
16:29.08 | TS|Skrom | *glee* |
16:29.43 | |Jelly| | 8( |
16:29.43 | Shirik | ouch |
16:29.57 | |Jelly| | I love you too, cog. |
16:30.23 | TS|Skrom | how could you, he's so... gnomish |
16:30.57 | |Jelly| | Ever heard of Gnome Punting? |
16:30.59 | |Jelly| | <3 |
16:31.11 | TS|Skrom | touche |
16:31.11 | cog|work | the drillmaster did that to me a few times... |
16:31.11 | |Jelly| | I go like his nasty comb over. lol |
16:31.16 | |Jelly| | s/go/do/ |
16:31.25 | cog|work | :( |
16:31.37 | cog|work | that makes me wish even more that the forums used our actual avatars |
16:32.08 | cog|work | at least just the basic head appearance so they don't bog down the servers |
16:32.38 | cog|work | there can't be THAT many combinations of facial features, skin tone, etc... |
16:33.05 | |Jelly| | oh wait |
16:33.15 | |Jelly| | since you hit 70, it doesn't use the sex combover anymore! |
16:34.05 | cog|work | Here you go, |Jelly|: http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=43425211 |
16:34.27 | |Jelly| | YEAH! |
16:35.37 | |Jelly| | Hawt beard too. |
16:36.09 | cog|work | The real me: http://cogwheel.wowinterface.com/portal.php (10 levels ago, anyway) |
16:36.21 | |Jelly| | lol |
16:37.34 | cog|work | I should take a new shot at Toshley's |
16:38.31 | [dRaCo] | does overheal produce aggro? |
16:38.38 | cog|work | no |
16:39.13 | cog|work | and the only reason I know this is because of the recent KTM drama which inspired me to read Kenco's article on wowwiki last week >< |
16:39.29 | |Jelly| | KTM drama?! |
16:39.41 | Arrowmaster | you dont know about the ktm drama? |
16:39.59 | Josh_Borke | overheal does not cause aggro (which intuitively makes sense) |
16:40.03 | [dRaCo] | then heal aggro is always the tank's fault :> |
16:40.49 | Cide | can you link to kenco's article? |
16:40.59 | cog|work | looking for it... |
16:41.35 | cog|work | |Jelly|: drama: http://www-en.curse-gaming.com/downloads/details/4204/?cpage=12 start with Leprosy's post near the bottom |
16:42.12 | cog|work | Cide: http://www.wowwiki.com/Formulas:Kencos_Research |
16:42.22 | Cide | thanks, cog|work :) |
16:42.27 | Shirik | ""From today, users will be asked to give their real name and social security number before being allowed to write their postings," said a spokesman of Daum, one of the country's top portals which boasts of 38 million users." |
16:42.32 | cog|work | not sure if any of it has changed yet |
16:42.39 | cog|work | s/yet/since then/ |
16:42.41 | Shirik | http://www.guardianhq.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=12591 |
16:45.05 | TS|Skrom | http://s74.photobucket.com/albums/i257/derick_donnel/?action=view¤t=currentui.jpg |
16:45.08 | TS|Skrom | wheee |
16:45.52 | Wobin | >< |
16:45.59 | Wobin | not more KencoCrap |
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16:46.54 | cog|work | it's a fun read if you don't care either way :P |
16:47.07 | Wobin | It's painful |
16:47.23 | Wobin | If Kenco were even the slightest bit civil, it might be worthwhile |
16:47.39 | cog|work | that's what makes it amusing to me XD |
16:47.40 | |Jelly| | I'm tired of people telling me to calm down because I tell them to use their common sense. |
16:47.41 | Wobin | but I'm completely disregarding anything he says just because he's a compelte arse |
16:48.00 | Wobin | He can argue til he's blue in the face, but I won't believe a single thing he says |
16:48.09 | Wobin | Much like his attitude to everyone else |
16:48.13 | Wobin | but with less insulting |
16:48.33 | TS|Skrom | |Jelly| calm down! |
16:49.50 | |Jelly| | I've yet to see one @Jelly thread! |
16:50.06 | Wobin | Actually Cog, what I'd like is for Bag_Update to fire reliably =P |
16:51.01 | Wobin | On a completely different note =P (in reference to that changes thread) |
16:51.45 | cog|work | if it fires reliably enough to work with the default UI, i wouldn't hold my breath :P |
16:52.32 | Wobin | I've moved a lot of objects in the bag and not had a reliable equal number of bag_events returned |
16:52.45 | Wobin | There are always some being dropped somewhere |
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16:53.19 | Josh_Borke | wobin: you fail ;-P just poll |
16:53.46 | Wobin | oh of course |
16:53.49 | Wobin | silly. |
16:54.26 | Valaron|Work | Hmm |
16:54.46 | Valaron|Work | Hunter does not always equal win |
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16:55.08 | TS|Skrom | quickest way to run out of mana on a warlock: back to back to back shadow trance |
16:56.24 | cog|work | qft |
16:56.33 | cog|work | one of the quickest to steal aggro, too |
16:57.21 | TS|Skrom | heh yeah, don't have to worry about it when I'm soloing, but then again I stopped trying to have a pet tank for me at level 20 |
16:57.27 | TS|Skrom | or was it 30 |
16:57.29 | TS|Skrom | yeah 30 |
16:57.56 | cog|work | demonology + affliction = win for leveling |
16:58.17 | TS|Skrom | got a link to a spec? |
16:58.40 | TS|Skrom | I went through a few iterations as I leveled this loc |
16:58.40 | cog|work | what level are you now? |
16:58.42 | TS|Skrom | 58 |
16:59.15 | cog|work | this might actually be relevant for you then ;) http://armory.worldofwarcraft.com/#character-talents.xml?r=Shadowsong&n=Carmon |
16:59.40 | cog|work | I'd bring demo up to soul link, then switch to affliction |
17:00.07 | cog|work | some of my affliction talents are filler for siphon life |
17:00.08 | TS|Skrom | see i just can't see how that'd be more efficient then drain tanking and dark pact |
17:01.18 | cog|work | helps to have fel armor... |
17:01.37 | TS|Skrom | http://armory.worldofwarcraft.com/#character-sheet.xml?r=Uldaman&n=Phi |
17:01.44 | cog|work | I have virtually no downtime between siphon & drain life |
17:01.48 | TS|Skrom | there's me, though I just got the staff of twin words so add 14 to the spell damage XD |
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17:02.11 | TS|Skrom | I have virtually no downtime either, and my pet does 0 damage. |
17:02.21 | TS|Skrom | he's just there for the hp buff and for me to drain his mana |
17:02.29 | TS|Skrom | my widdle invincible mana battery <3 |
17:02.49 | cog|work | I played a hunter before i played a 'lock so I may be a bit biased in using my VW for tanking :P |
17:02.58 | TS|Skrom | ahh |
17:03.10 | TS|Skrom | yeah i've not used the void since level 20 XD |
17:03.14 | TS|Skrom | not in any real sense |
17:03.23 | TS|Skrom | maybe once or twice when I needed a shield |
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17:14.45 | TS|Skrom | my thought was always... if I want to kill things fast then I need to do damage. if i do damage, the void will NOT be holding aggro |
17:15.00 | TS|Skrom | if the void's not holding aggro I may as well not use it since it's own damage is so anemic |
17:15.38 | Antiarc|Work | The VW's torment scales extraordinarily slowly |
17:15.40 | TS|Skrom | so from around 20-40 I just used succy for damage while I tanked, then switched to imp at 40 and started dark pacting XD |
17:15.45 | Antiarc|Work | I'm currently collecting data on that right now. |
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17:25.47 | zenzelezz | this sounds like a fun night. "don't we need a priest for Moroes?" "3x palas for fear" |
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17:26.09 | Antiarc|Work | Kiting works out just as well for the melee adds |
17:37.25 | Kaydeethree | meh, we've killed moroes without priests before. pally fears help, kiting/trapping helps more |
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17:38.00 | |Jelly| | <3 being the only priest |
17:38.41 | deltron | <3 being the only resto shaman |
17:38.42 | deltron | :D |
17:41.54 | Lunessa | </3 Being the only priest. |
17:42.36 | deltron | hehe |
17:43.28 | cog|work | I want to make a website that starts with ww instead of www to mess with peoples' heads |
17:44.25 | deltron | I hate it when sites don't have their dns set up, and make it so you HAVE to type in www. |
17:45.08 | cog|work | yeah... even worse, my guild's website uses www for the normal site... take it off, and you just get the calendar :| |
17:45.45 | deltron | heh I need to fix dns on my site, add in a forums. raid. etc |
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17:48.07 | Lunessa | ZOMG Cog - Who is the site admin? Pummel them with a FISH. |
17:48.59 | cog|work | I think i shall. |
17:49.23 | Lunessa | A big fish. Preferably one that has been left out a day or three. |
17:49.53 | Nom- | yay finally got my second level 70 |
17:50.06 | Nom- | now gotta spend all day tomorrow questing to makes some gold lol |
17:50.07 | Nom- | nite |
17:50.44 | deltron | hehe cya |
17:57.12 | Shirik | I'm disappointed |
17:57.20 | Shirik | exterminator doesn't even show up on performancefu |
17:57.31 | Shirik | with both memory usage and cpu profiling enabled |
17:57.33 | |Jelly| | rofl |
17:58.04 | Shirik | it probably would with 40 peope in raid, dunno |
17:58.42 | Shirik | wtf! |
17:58.47 | Shirik | I'm about to kill this squirrel |
17:58.52 | Shirik | and one of the wolves comes over and kills it |
17:58.57 | N00bZXI | rofl |
17:59.02 | cog|work | The bigest CPU hog of the addons I use is RedRange >< |
17:59.06 | Shirik | do you have any idea how hard they are to find when you're looking for them?! |
17:59.13 | N00bZXI | Shirik: I've got to say owned. |
17:59.33 | Lunessa | PWNT by a wolf! |
18:00.40 | *** part/#wowi-lounge Cairenn (n=Karen@MMOI/Administratrix/Cairenn) |
18:04.29 | |Jelly| | http://www.thesmokinggun.com/graphics/art3/0629071facemugs10.jpg -- What do you think of when you see that picture? |
18:04.39 | Antiarc|Work | For the win. |
18:04.50 | cog|work | I think of Nip/Tuck |
18:06.34 | N00bZXI | I think 'what am I supposed to think' |
18:07.06 | cog|work | Wow.... |
18:07.13 | |Jelly| | ? |
18:07.34 | cog|work | I'm not the only one to feel weird about FTL being printed all over fruit of the loom underwear... |
18:08.15 | cog|work | http://bash.org/?736707 |
18:08.17 | |Jelly| | haha |
18:08.32 | zenzelezz | agreed, underwear FTL |
18:08.35 | Lunessa | LOL |
18:08.51 | Lunessa | Tighty-Whities FTL! LOL |
18:09.00 | N00bZXI | ROFL |
18:09.22 | |Jelly| | Just imagine what someone else might think when they're...coming off. |
18:10.15 | Shirik | so there's a critter named "Talubk" |
18:15.00 | |Jelly| | ? |
18:15.15 | cog|work | another one that we didn't already know about? :P |
18:16.26 | Lunessa | No, I've been out for a few days and I'm catching up. |
18:17.06 | cog|work | http://bash.org/?632703 <----- The funny thing is, most people think the responder is the stupid one |
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18:19.09 | Lunessa | LOL |
18:19.31 | Lunessa | It's wickedly smart - points out the mathematical fallacy. |
18:20.13 | N00bZXI | I notice something different |
18:21.14 | N00bZXI | First he says the average person is dumb, then he says most of them are dumber than that. So who's they? |
18:21.35 | |Jelly| | What's the /script for "tab" ? |
18:21.52 | cog|work | <PROTECTED> |
18:22.02 | N00bZXI | TargetNearestEnemy()? |
18:22.45 | Shirik | TargetNearestEnemy() is protected |
18:22.47 | cog|work | you can't use that |
18:23.52 | N00bZXI | Right |
18:25.03 | TS|Skrom | cog|work you are a wee bit grouchy today, eh? |
18:25.10 | cog|work | nah |
18:25.27 | TS|Skrom | good use of PEBKAC though |
18:25.36 | cog|work | i'm like that all the time :P |
18:25.45 | cog|work | I just haven't been trolling the forums as much recently |
18:26.07 | |Jelly| | I guess I'm totally missing it. |
18:26.30 | cog|work | Also, I have Lunessa & |Jelly| to do the reaming for me now :P |
18:28.33 | |Jelly| | <3 |
18:29.17 | TS|Skrom | wtf... why did this guy take a screenshot... of windows picture and fax viewer... of the screenshot he wants us to look at... |
18:29.33 | Lunessa | lol |
18:29.35 | cog|work | probably doesn't know how to convert from tiff |
18:30.08 | |Jelly| | wtf...where are these phantom threads?! |
18:31.57 | TS|Skrom | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=114762235&sid=1 |
18:32.03 | TS|Skrom | you reading the right forum, missy? |
18:32.16 | TS|Skrom | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=114721586&sid=1 |
18:32.18 | |Jelly| | No. I didn't read that. TLDR. |
18:32.41 | |Jelly| | Blocks of text online are hell on my eyes so I don't try. |
18:32.44 | deltron | tl;dr |
18:33.20 | TS|Skrom | LUA |
18:33.25 | Lopeppeppy | I was kind to Mr. WTF. In spite of that horrible picture-of-picture-inside-picture crap. |
18:33.25 | TS|Skrom | drat |
18:33.38 | |Jelly| | Peppy! <333 |
18:33.51 | |Jelly| | That's actually the one I wanted to see. rofl |
18:33.52 | Lopeppeppy | Just seein' me, |Jelly|? *hugs* |
18:33.54 | TS|Skrom | it was like MC Esher, "the eternal jackass" or something |
18:34.04 | |Jelly| | Yeah. *hug* 8) |
18:34.06 | deltron | that guy took a picture of a screenshot? |
18:34.10 | TS|Skrom | yep |
18:34.24 | TS|Skrom | took a windows screenshot of the ingame screen shot loaded in the picture viewer |
18:34.31 | |Jelly| | lol. ok |
18:34.38 | |Jelly| | now i see what you're talkinga bout. |
18:34.42 | Lopeppeppy | And it's so small that I can't tell if there's a voidwalker in the picture, or a bit of jelly on his screen. |
18:34.55 | |Jelly| | That was actually the post that incited my mini-rant earlier. |
18:35.09 | TS|Skrom | I figured actually |
18:35.24 | Lopeppeppy | Maybe I missed the rant? Or was that in the other thread TS|Skrom linked... |
18:35.37 | TS|Skrom | what would have been better is if he used his digital camera to take a picture of his screenshot of his screenshot in the viewer |
18:35.44 | Lunessa | Wow... Nite... is a raging psycho! |
18:35.46 | |Jelly| | no, it was an IRC rant...I think you missed it |
18:35.55 | Lopeppeppy | Ooooh! TS|Skrom, you should go tell him that. |
18:36.08 | TS|Skrom | and then printed it out and ran it through a copier then scanned it into a pdf |
18:36.12 | Lopeppeppy | Lunessa.. I think I've seen Nite on another forum being the same psycho. |
18:36.30 | |Jelly| | I almost used the c-word on her. |
18:36.57 | Lopeppeppy | Not sure she goes that far, 'cause it's just words. I have to be able to punch someone right in the face if I'm going that far. |
18:36.59 | Lunessa | I just wish I had some of the artistic talent other people have. My current UI layout looks like le poop. |
18:37.00 | TS|Skrom | herstory |
18:37.29 | Lunessa | ... right in the *FACE*. |
18:37.32 | Valaron|Work | Your UI is what you make of it. |
18:37.44 | Lopeppeppy | Mine is... functional for me, Lunessa, but my crashing problems prevent me from doing the eePanels refining and beautification I was hoping for. It's like.... a virtual "no watering" zone right now. |
18:38.10 | |Jelly| | Cog...go look at her UI |
18:38.41 | Lunessa | Right now I have a 3 "blocks" to my layout. |
18:38.42 | Antiarc|Work | I should post http://img329.imageshack.us/my.php?image=uiofchampionsjh4.jpg in one of those threads. |
18:38.59 | Lopeppeppy | I like the purple....if I liked purple.... |
18:38.59 | Lunessa | And it's functional, and even handy. But not pretty. |
18:39.08 | |Jelly| | HOLY SHIT |
18:39.46 | Lopeppeppy | Antiarc.... very evil. But I love it, even if half the idiots would treat it as serious and miss the point entirely. |
18:40.12 | |Jelly| | No really, please post that. |
18:40.16 | |Jelly| | Please. |
18:40.18 | |Jelly| | Or I will! |
18:40.23 | Lopeppeppy | In the "original" thread! |
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18:40.36 | |Jelly| | 8P |
18:40.56 | Lopeppeppy | 'cause it's totally unique. :P |
18:41.19 | Kaydeethree | my gods... I've seen bad UIs |
18:41.22 | TS|Skrom | what does "designed from scratch by myself" mean exactly? |
18:41.25 | Kaydeethree | think that one takes the cake |
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18:41.33 | TS|Skrom | I see... pitbull, um... fubar... |
18:41.40 | TS|Skrom | I don't think nite coded those |
18:41.49 | |Jelly| | I think it's the "from scratch" part that gets her. |
18:41.51 | TS|Skrom | could be wrong of course but i'm pretty sure I'm not! (sarcasn) |
18:42.00 | Lopeppeppy | Designed from scratch should mean that your UI is pencil and paper, no more game screen for joo? |
18:42.08 | TS|Skrom | haw |
18:42.13 | Antiarc|Work | Heheh, if it makes you all feel better, that's my "profiling Omen in a raid situation" UI :P |
18:42.28 | |Jelly| | We all think you should post it. |
18:42.32 | TS|Skrom | http://img400.imageshack.us/my.php?image=niteuimq8.jpg <-- that's the screenshot I'm referring to btw |
18:42.33 | Antiarc|Work | k, fine, posting :P |
18:43.03 | |Jelly| | I like my version of it better. |
18:43.14 | TS|Skrom | she really has a "thing" about not completing things doesn't she |
18:43.15 | Lunessa | There is nothing original about that. It's just lots of gradient and art. |
18:43.19 | |Jelly| | I just need to figure out what the hell to do about party frames. |
18:43.20 | TS|Skrom | ever single window kinda trails off. |
18:43.28 | TS|Skrom | she was prolly a very unfocused child |
18:43.58 | Lopeppeppy | I like edges. I was a very neat child. |
18:44.06 | TS|Skrom | someone should wap her upsdide the head with a window border |
18:44.22 | Antiarc|Work | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=110465367&postId=1147420970&sid=1#370 |
18:44.26 | Antiarc|Work | You're all welcome :P |
18:44.28 | Lopeppeppy | Or punch her in the face like I wanted to. |
18:44.29 | |Jelly| | hahahaha |
18:44.41 | TS|Skrom | AHHHHH |
18:44.55 | |Jelly| | So everyone wants to punch me in the face too? 8( |
18:45.03 | Lopeppeppy | No... not you! |
18:45.04 | sag_ich_nicht | |Jelly| nothing personal |
18:45.10 | sag_ich_nicht | i want to punch everyone in the face |
18:45.12 | sag_ich_nicht | so not your fault |
18:45.12 | sag_ich_nicht | :) |
18:45.25 | TS|Skrom | what the.... your omen and the stuff under it... |
18:45.26 | |Jelly| | Eh. Peppy will bite you. |
18:45.34 | TS|Skrom | looks different then my omen (and I don't now what that stuff is) |
18:45.44 | Antiarc|Work | The stuff under it is Violation |
18:45.48 | Lunessa | Nah |Jelly| I want to see you drunk and passed out in a pool of spilled beer so we can shave your head, paint it blue and post it on YouTube. |
18:45.55 | Antiarc|Work | Omen's fully skinnable so I may just be using different display settings than you. |
18:46.04 | |Jelly| | Well. Drive your happy ass up here. |
18:46.10 | TS|Skrom | oh i |
18:46.12 | TS|Skrom | see |
18:46.15 | Lopeppeppy | ..... Lunessa is now Ruler of Evil. |
18:46.16 | Antiarc|Work | That screen's also a week old, so that's like 341 Omen commits old. |
18:46.20 | TS|Skrom | violation eh? |
18:46.34 | TS|Skrom | running comparisons or somethign? |
18:46.38 | mikma | hehe nice ui's there |
18:47.01 | Shirik | 341? |
18:47.01 | Shirik | wtf |
18:47.08 | Shirik | RDX hasn't had that many in its lifetime |
18:47.10 | Antiarc|Work | Hyperbole :P |
18:47.12 | TS|Skrom | rogues get threat from energy gain? |
18:47.15 | Shirik | oh >< |
18:47.17 | Antiarc|Work | That's the theory. |
18:47.18 | Lunessa | :D |
18:47.30 | TS|Skrom | wow that's kinda silly |
18:47.32 | Antiarc|Work | Thought between Threat and Omen I've got several hundred commits. |
18:47.36 | Lopeppeppy | I Feint just for standing still.... |
18:47.55 | Antiarc|Work | I like running DMs, but wanted to drop DamageMeters as it sucks up RAM like a mofo which is bad when you're trying to get some decent profiling numbers. |
18:47.58 | TS|Skrom | would explain some things I've noticed though |
18:48.01 | Antiarc|Work | So I popped up Violation. |
18:49.48 | TS|Skrom | what's expo? |
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18:50.56 | Antiarc|Work | It's a function-level profiler - the big window there on the right. |
18:51.07 | Antiarc|Work | Give it a table and it profiles all methods in that table. |
18:51.42 | sag_ich_nicht | http://atlasmod.com/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=952 |
18:52.10 | Antiarc|Work | I've been using it to track down methods that are creating excess garbage. Extremely useful. |
18:52.20 | Antiarc|Work | I've got ThreatLib running super lean and mean now thanks to it. :D |
18:53.24 | TS|Skrom | that something you downloaded or made? |
18:54.32 | Antiarc|Work | Downloaded. It's in the wowace repo. |
18:54.37 | Antiarc|Work | Fantastic little tool. |
18:55.45 | TS|Skrom | and the other one that tracks how much mem addons are using, and last GC, is that FuBar_GCInFu? |
18:56.32 | Antiarc|Work | PerformanceFu |
18:56.41 | TS|Skrom | ahh okay |
18:57.01 | Antiarc|Work | It's great for a lot of stuff, but Expo's better for performance optimization, as PerformanceFu is subject to the memory usage masking that goes on in Ace mods. |
18:57.24 | Antiarc|Work | For example, I had a bunch of garbage being created by Omen, but it was credited to Threat-1.0 since the codepath was invoked by a Threat event raise. |
18:57.57 | sag_ich_nicht | performancefu has some bug that seems to have left gone unnoticed for a long time anyway |
18:58.11 | sag_ich_nicht | every so often it has a very short, but noticeable CPU usage spike |
18:58.17 | sag_ich_nicht | which is why i have it deactivated |
18:58.18 | sag_ich_nicht | >< |
18:58.35 | sag_ich_nicht | (hate the picture freezing for a few ms every so often) |
18:59.00 | Shirik | yup I've seen the same |
18:59.07 | Shirik | but I thought that was the CPU profiling, not performancefu |
18:59.15 | Antiarc|Work | If you have CPU profiling on, it does that since it's calling the method that actually does the profiling measurements. |
18:59.29 | Antiarc|Work | Not much way around that, but you don't generally need CPU profiling on in live situations |
19:00.13 | sag_ich_nicht | it happens with CPU profiling off though |
19:00.17 | TS|Skrom | oops |
19:00.25 | sag_ich_nicht | with cpu profiling ON, it gets very bad |
19:00.26 | Antiarc|Work | Hrm. Haven't seen that. |
19:00.27 | TS|Skrom | 1.5 hours before quitting time and I havnt eaten lunch yet |
19:00.36 | TS|Skrom | <-- ftl |
19:00.43 | sag_ich_nicht | with it off, it might even look like a lagspike |
19:00.50 | sag_ich_nicht | but it's not, since it goes away when i turn it off |
19:00.51 | sag_ich_nicht | >< |
19:01.03 | Antiarc|Work | Huh. Odd. |
19:01.07 | sag_ich_nicht | yes, very |
19:02.39 | sag_ich_nicht | might be a local problem, but i doubt it |
19:02.54 | sag_ich_nicht | (might be that it only shows up with a lot of addons though, considering i have over 300 >.>) |
19:03.17 | sag_ich_nicht | 372 folders in my addons folder |
19:03.17 | sag_ich_nicht | >_< |
19:04.06 | foxlit | Haha, joy |
19:04.07 | TS|Skrom | lol nice! |
19:04.12 | TS|Skrom | screenshot that for me, eh? |
19:04.15 | foxlit | BigWigs_SomeOtherBoss? |
19:05.07 | sag_ich_nicht | TS|Skrom meh |
19:05.37 | sag_ich_nicht | also 153 MB big |
19:05.55 | sag_ich_nicht | WTF folder is another 33 MB |
19:08.59 | sag_ich_nicht | also no conflicts |
19:09.08 | sag_ich_nicht | and 60 fps |
19:09.25 | Lopeppeppy | Deeply envy you, sag_ich_nicht |
19:09.33 | foxlit | What's the second return from string.find? end position? |
19:09.33 | sag_ich_nicht | (not) |
19:09.46 | sag_ich_nicht | IF there is a conflict |
19:09.51 | sag_ich_nicht | it takes hours and hours to track down |
19:09.52 | cog|work | sag_ich_nicht: what resolution? |
19:09.59 | Antiarc|Work | Lopeppeppy: Think so. |
19:10.01 | sag_ich_nicht | cog|work lemme take a screenshot |
19:10.07 | cog|work | foxlit: start, end, (captures...) |
19:10.19 | sag_ich_nicht | Display Resolution: 1680x1050x32bpp 60Hz |
19:10.20 | sag_ich_nicht | (btw.) |
19:10.31 | Lopeppeppy | Hmm, Antiarc? |
19:10.44 | Antiarc|Work | Err. Sorry. Misread. Meant to respond to foxlit |
19:10.49 | cog|work | o_o |
19:10.50 | Antiarc|Work | (afk, getting coffee) |
19:10.53 | cog|work | sag_ich_nicht: what gpu? |
19:11.00 | sag_ich_nicht | Offenderserv is running Windows XP Professional, Service Pack 2 (5.1 - 2600) on an AMD Athlon 64 X2 Dual Core 5200+ at 2.60 GHz with 1631/2048MB (79.64%) RAM free. |
19:11.01 | sag_ich_nicht | It has an nVidia GeForce 8800 GTX running at 1680x1050x32bpp 60Hz, Sound Blaster Audigy, and 424.88 GB of 596.17 GB available on 1 drive(s). |
19:11.01 | Lopeppeppy | Good, 'cause I was confuzled. |
19:11.16 | Antiarc|Work | *grin* |
19:11.22 | Antiarc|Work | 1920x1200 4 lyfe. |
19:12.00 | TS|Skrom | cog|work are you accepting incoming /msg's? |
19:12.07 | TS|Skrom | shoulda asked before I sent that XD |
19:12.09 | Lopeppeppy | Radeon 9200 series... |
19:12.22 | sag_ich_nicht | be glad you have a 5200fx |
19:12.23 | zenzelezz | I'm quite happy with my 1280x1024 + 1280x1024 |
19:12.27 | sag_ich_nicht | drivers for the 8800GTX are buggy |
19:12.32 | sag_ich_nicht | and WoWs support for them as well |
19:12.34 | cog|work | Oh... mine would be getting that kinda FPS if i weren't running in windowed mode on vista with desktop composition enabled >< |
19:12.36 | sag_ich_nicht | lots of crashes on alt + tab |
19:13.17 | Kaydeethree | meh. it's just using the unified kmod-nvidia-100.14.09-1.2.6.21_1.3194.fc7 driver anyway |
19:13.28 | cog|work | >>> print(string.find("ABC123", "(%d+)")) |
19:13.42 | TS|Skrom | lol |
19:13.49 | sag_ich_nicht | cry in his pillow about the success of oRA2? |
19:13.50 | sag_ich_nicht | :P |
19:14.02 | TS|Skrom | wow |
19:14.04 | cog|work | lua> print(string.find("ABC123", "(%d+)")) |
19:14.28 | sag_ich_nicht | http://img48.imageshack.us/img48/222/wowscrnshot062907211047dl4.jpg |
19:14.32 | sag_ich_nicht | there cogwheel |
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19:15.42 | deltron | lol nice macro's |
19:15.52 | pakoz2 | yo all |
19:16.00 | Lunessa | Holy full on button extravaganza Batman! |
19:16.14 | deltron | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=115042266&sid=1 |
19:16.34 | deltron | http://img179.imageshack.us/img179/1303/wowscrnshot062607221404ek9.jpg <-- mine :P |
19:17.05 | pakoz2 | wow |
19:17.09 | pakoz2 | huge raid frames |
19:17.16 | Josh_Borke | with a wopping 109 MB of mem usage :-D |
19:17.46 | deltron | hehe |
19:17.54 | deltron | <PROTECTED> |
19:17.59 | pakoz2 | anyone here recommend i dump deadly boss mods and go with big wigs |
19:18.13 | sag_ich_nicht | [21:15] <deltron> lol nice macro's <--the best one is hidden in the left lower corner :P |
19:18.16 | deltron | I've used big wigs for a long time |
19:18.35 | Antiarc|Work | I loves me some BigWigs. |
19:18.44 | deltron | sag_ich_nicht: what's it do? |
19:18.46 | Lunessa | deltron: That block of buttons below your raid frames, vas ist? |
19:19.12 | deltron | Lunessa: those are my totems :P |
19:19.14 | deltron | all of them |
19:19.30 | Lunessa | Ah. I use YATA for mine. |
19:19.40 | deltron | yeah |
19:19.50 | deltron | yata was being a pain for me for some unknown reason |
19:19.57 | Lunessa | Shaman is level 67 and raising. |
19:20.05 | deltron | that's some basic shaman mod |
19:20.12 | deltron | and I use shammyspy for the timers |
19:20.17 | sag_ich_nicht | [21:18] <deltron> sag_ich_nicht: what's it do? <--summon my mount |
19:20.27 | deltron | usually I'm shammyspy/yata |
19:20.39 | Lunessa | I used to use Bongos and just dedicated a bar to each totem type. |
19:20.55 | deltron | yeah |
19:20.59 | deltron | I used to have 3 bars of totems |
19:21.49 | mikma | Lunessa: same here :D |
19:22.09 | mikma | i even made the totembars come visible when i press shift |
19:22.22 | deltron | lol yeah |
19:22.23 | Lunessa | I got the Earth Elemental totem the other day... <3. |
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19:25.34 | deltron | yeah |
19:25.41 | deltron | the elementals are a little nice now |
19:25.52 | deltron | since they get 2-shot instead of 1-shot |
19:25.53 | flukes1 | Hey, is there an event which fires when a raid member disconnects? |
19:25.55 | pakoz2 | does big wigs have a range finder |
19:26.08 | flukes1 | i.e. loses their connection to the game |
19:26.17 | Lunessa | There's 2 features in BT3 that I want in Bongos2 "Fade Out" and "Page on Modifier Key" |
19:26.18 | deltron | pakoz2: umm there's a plugin like the gruul one |
19:26.20 | Antiarc|Work | PARTY_MEMBER_DISABLE |
19:26.31 | flukes1 | Will that fire for the entire raid though |
19:26.34 | pakoz2 | ya, sry thats what i'm fter |
19:26.36 | Antiarc|Work | No idea. |
19:26.55 | deltron | one for gruul, that guy in kara |
19:26.59 | deltron | umm what else |
19:27.02 | pakoz2 | hydross |
19:27.15 | pakoz2 | ? |
19:27.22 | deltron | not been to him yet |
19:27.26 | pakoz2 | hmm |
19:27.29 | deltron | guild is still working on resist gear |
19:27.30 | deltron | but i'm sure |
19:27.39 | pakoz2 | is there a way to look up what it does have events for? |
19:28.00 | deltron | http://www.wowace.com/wiki/BigWigs |
19:28.16 | Lunessa | Mmm... Sanity 2. |
19:29.18 | sag_ich_nicht | [21:18] <deltron> sag_ich_nicht: what's it do? <--http://pastey.net/70067-c4s3 btw. |
19:29.38 | deltron | ohhh nice |
19:29.55 | deltron | I really need to start making macro's |
19:31.48 | Lunessa | Benna always has a sexy looking lay out for her priest. I need a bigger monitor. |
19:31.58 | sag_ich_nicht | does nothing unless you are in an area where you can mount, if you're in a form it cancels that form, if you are on a mount you are unmounted, then summons the flying mount if you can fly, otherwise the ground mount |
19:32.02 | sag_ich_nicht | unless you used a rightclick |
19:32.09 | Lopeppeppy | If I replace my computer, I might get a second monitor as well. Go right out. |
19:32.09 | sag_ich_nicht | in which case it will always summon the ground mount |
19:32.22 | deltron | i just use the mount button on autobar heh |
19:32.32 | sag_ich_nicht | pfffffff |
19:32.39 | deltron | :P |
19:33.07 | deltron | anyone a macro god that can answer a question? |
19:33.18 | cog|work | I'm *the* macro god |
19:33.20 | TS|Skrom | your title on that mcro suggests there's a better mount macro |
19:33.22 | Lopeppeppy | I use Autobar too, Delton... I are lazy. |
19:33.34 | Lunessa | I dual monitor now, but they are different form factors and I play wow in 1440 x 900 on the primary and keep a browser and TS on monitor two. |
19:33.42 | Lunessa | I'm a macro High Priest. |
19:33.57 | cog|work | deltron: http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=96143900&sid=1 |
19:33.59 | cog|work | :P |
19:34.21 | deltron | if I have a macro to switch out my totems before casting a heal, is there a delay before the gear takes effect? |
19:34.38 | cog|work | yes |
19:34.52 | deltron | that's what I guessed heh |
19:34.53 | cog|work | The macro completes executing before the server even gets word that you want to change gear |
19:35.03 | sag_ich_nicht | cog|work: happy with the screenshot i gave you? |
19:35.09 | Lunessa | Weapon/releic swaps invoke global cooldown |
19:35.21 | deltron | hmm |
19:35.34 | cog|work | sag_ich_nicht: I was just curious what resolution you were using at 60fps |
19:35.39 | sag_ich_nicht | ah |
19:35.46 | sag_ich_nicht | well |
19:35.49 | sag_ich_nicht | it tends to drop a bit |
19:35.54 | sag_ich_nicht | and this is this LCDs native res |
19:36.04 | deltron | it'd be awesome to macro switching my healing totems with whatever heal |
19:36.15 | deltron | didn't seem to really work when I tried |
19:36.15 | sag_ich_nicht | but otoh, i am playing at the highest possible settings forced by driver :P |
19:36.19 | cog|work | I have all options turned up all the way in game and even some extra ones turned up in my drivers (e.g., transparency antialiasing) |
19:36.31 | sag_ich_nicht | i have all of them upped to max in the driver. |
19:36.32 | sag_ich_nicht | :P |
19:36.34 | cog|work | and get around 45 in shattrath at 1280x1024 |
19:36.40 | sag_ich_nicht | same here |
19:36.44 | sag_ich_nicht | 60 in IF though |
19:36.52 | cog|work | yeah... if is cake :) |
19:37.04 | sag_ich_nicht | i'd get constant 60 easily if i turned my addons off |
19:37.11 | deltron | I'm 45-ish in shatt, 1650x1080 |
19:37.15 | cog|work | If I weren't on vista (or at least turned off desktop composition) I get a 10-20% better rate |
19:37.18 | sag_ich_nicht | WTB proper dualcore support from WoW |
19:37.25 | cog|work | ditto |
19:37.30 | deltron | yeah! |
19:37.31 | cog|work | i'm on a core2 e6600 |
19:37.32 | deltron | let's protest! |
19:37.41 | deltron | cog|work: me too :D awesome proc |
19:37.47 | sag_ich_nicht | [21:37] <cog|work> i'm on a core2 e6600 <--enjoy your broken CPU |
19:37.54 | deltron | lol |
19:37.58 | cog|work | hehe |
19:38.00 | sag_ich_nicht | http://marc.info/?l=openbsd-misc&m=118296441702631 |
19:38.01 | sag_ich_nicht | :P |
19:38.02 | deltron | what theo said eh? |
19:38.18 | cog|work | yeah. read that the other day |
19:38.20 | sag_ich_nicht | HAIL theo, the grrrrrrrreat flamer. |
19:38.25 | Shirik | =( |
19:38.29 | Shirik | I just used XML in my addon |
19:38.33 | deltron | yeah, he's a disturber heh |
19:38.35 | sag_ich_nicht | bad Shirik |
19:38.37 | |Jelly| | SHIRIK! |
19:38.41 | sag_ich_nicht | no cookie |
19:38.42 | |Jelly| | Bad! Bad! Shirik! |
19:39.05 | sag_ich_nicht | i was kidding :P |
19:39.11 | cog|work | :P |
19:39.17 | Shirik | I can't make a virtual frame with lua :( |
19:39.21 | cog|work | I was too. I can't really smack anyone here :( |
19:39.27 | |Jelly| | I don't know enough about it to care either way, to be honest. |
19:39.31 | cog|work | Shirik: use a table and write your own creator function |
19:39.34 | sag_ich_nicht | [21:38] <sag_ich_nicht> HAIL theo, the grrrrrrrreat flamer. <--anyone who gets what i was refering to with this gets a cookie btw. :P |
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19:39.37 | Shirik | usually I do |
19:39.43 | Shirik | but in this case it seems like so much work |
19:39.46 | Shirik | xml's actually going to be easier |
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19:45.55 | Lopeppeppy | I'm going to look at adoptable kitties. Y'all stay good. |
19:46.02 | |Jelly| | nooooooo |
19:46.20 | zenzelezz | demand pics |
19:46.28 | Antiarc|Work | Lopeppeppy: beware! |
19:46.29 | Antiarc|Work | http://xkcd.com/c231.html |
19:46.45 | |Jelly| | HAHA |
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19:46.56 | Lopeppeppy | Okay... stay froody then, |Jelly|. *kisskiss* If I become a mommy, I will drive you all crazy with pictures. |
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19:52.00 | sag_ich_nicht | http://xkcd.com/c283.html awww X) |
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19:55.50 | Lunessa | http://i19.tinypic.com/4ya19fr.jpg - I want this level of clean. |
19:56.03 | |Jelly| | oh my god |
19:56.09 | |Jelly| | <-- would die |
19:57.45 | Lunessa | Seriously. It's functional clean, and easy on the eyes. But I still need party/raid frames and lots of buttons - I'm just assuming he has most of them hidden away. |
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19:58.45 | Lunessa | http://img338.imageshack.us/img338/513/wowscrnshot062007233830yj0.jpg - not bad either, but odd button placement. |
20:03.43 | Josh_Borke | what's up with all the odd bottom space? |
20:05.31 | kaiden | i'm weird with my layouts, http://www.ohnoes.cc/screenshots/Denarik_01.jpg |
20:07.37 | Kirkburn | Btw, Skull of Guldan is a mage trinket :D |
20:07.52 | Lunessa | No, not really, You have two major sections for buttons. And it looks like the seals/blessings thing on the right is click while the rest is key-bound. |
20:08.00 | Kirkburn | (http://www.mmo-champion.com/index.php?topic=382.0) |
20:08.38 | |Jelly| | Kaiden: I like your party frames. Simple and to the point. 8) |
20:08.55 | kaiden | |Jelly|, :) no need for anything else hehe |
20:09.35 | kaiden | i had to make it so they were close to my own health because i kept letting myself die |
20:09.38 | |Jelly| | Are you left handed? (Out of curiosity) |
20:09.47 | kaiden | nope, why do you ask? |
20:10.11 | |Jelly| | Cause a couple friends of mine are and all their party frames, etc are on the left...opposite for right handed. |
20:10.16 | Kirkburn | Wow, I should try reducing my button sizes. Those are some damn clean layouts (@ Lunessa) |
20:10.42 | Lunessa | I liked them too. |
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20:11.03 | Kirkburn | *sigh*, yay for crashing |
20:11.03 | Lunessa | I want to have some level of clarity like that on my screen. |
20:11.23 | Kirkburn | That now means I lost the links to the other screenshots people posted :/ |
20:11.35 | Kirkburn | rage! |
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20:15.01 | Shirik | wtf |
20:15.09 | Shirik | someone posted in the tech support forums, a blue responded |
20:15.12 | Shirik | it was moved to the UI forums |
20:15.16 | Shirik | and then back to the tech support forums |
20:15.29 | batrick | LOL |
20:15.50 | nevcairiel | lol |
20:15.52 | nevcairiel | CMs ftw |
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20:21.25 | kaiden | |Jelly|, nah, i have multiple computers sitting near me and most of the time my left side is where i'm watching movies or reading websites |
20:21.32 | kaiden | so i'm used to stuff being on the left for visibility |
20:21.32 | kaiden | ;p |
20:22.01 | |Jelly| | ahh |
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20:26.49 | |Jelly| | LUA |
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20:37.56 | Shirik | lemmiwinks? |
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20:42.03 | Shirik | whom here knows something about dropdown menus, which I never use? |
20:44.29 | Shirik | it won't appear :( |
20:44.37 | Shirik | I know the function's being called, but it never shows up |
20:44.39 | Shirik | want to see the code? |
20:44.43 | foxlit | Sure |
20:47.02 | Shirik | this is the xml http://wowi.pastey.net/70070?lang=xml |
20:47.26 | Shirik | the frame in question is ExterminatorFrameTitle |
20:48.36 | Shirik | I'm a moron |
20:48.37 | Shirik | never mind |
20:48.45 | Shirik | wait no, no I'm not |
20:48.47 | Shirik | ha |
20:49.25 | Shirik | here's the lua: http://wowi.pastey.net/70071 |
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20:51.01 | krka | weird... something smells burned, and now i cant get any sound |
20:51.06 | Fin | hmm |
20:51.18 | cog|work | :| |
20:51.21 | cog|work | I know the feeling... |
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20:51.26 | Kaydeethree | your motherboard blow a cap? |
20:51.32 | krka | possibly, hard to tell |
20:51.55 | cog|work | I've watched a power trace on my mobo go up like a fuse in open air.... |
20:52.41 | Lunessa | ouch |
20:52.47 | Shirik | fyi, the Lua is loaded after the XML |
20:52.51 | Shirik | but I don't think that should be an issue |
20:55.42 | Shirik | I should point out, foxlit |
20:55.44 | Shirik | Exterminator.debug("Call!"); |
20:55.45 | Shirik | is never run |
20:55.51 | Shirik | at least as far as I can see |
20:57.23 | |Jelly| | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=114781831&sid=1 <-- tired of those threads |
20:57.43 | Shirik | now you know why I wrote that up |
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21:03.20 | Lunessa | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=115041714&sid=1 - *sigh* |
21:03.41 | deltron | Lunessa: http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=114912309&postId=1147222033&sid=1#7 |
21:03.44 | deltron | :P |
21:03.47 | Shirik | so I'm sitting here coding |
21:03.54 | Shirik | and some guy comes up to me and gives me a void crystal and a LPS |
21:04.04 | Shirik | never seen him before in my life |
21:04.26 | Lunessa | Those sort of threads make me want to quote "The Matrix" - "That sounds like a really good deal, but I have a better one. How about I give you the finger, and you give me my phone call?" |
21:04.31 | subsonic | Where's a good place to get started to learn to make a mod? Also, when creating frames, do you guys tend to use XML or build them in LUA? |
21:04.42 | sag_ich_nicht | Shirik wth |
21:04.43 | deltron | Shirik: a fan? |
21:04.44 | Shirik | I tend to create them in Lua, but that's a preference |
21:04.50 | Shirik | also, Lua is not an acronym |
21:04.53 | Shirik | deltron: I have no idea >< |
21:04.55 | Shirik | he said he was deleting his char so |
21:04.57 | Shirik | I doubt it |
21:05.05 | deltron | hah nice |
21:05.06 | sag_ich_nicht | omg |
21:05.16 | foxlit | XML |
21:05.24 | Shirik | foxlit: any idea? :( |
21:05.25 | foxlit | Though I think I'm in the minority there :) |
21:05.35 | foxlit | Oh, gah, I got sidetracked, sec. |
21:05.46 | Shirik | sorry >< |
21:05.57 | Shirik | It seems like Exterminator.MenuInit is never being called |
21:06.26 | subsonic | Strange, people in #wowace tend to build them in LUA. But I'd like to see examples. Anybody know of good example code of making frames with text in LUA? |
21:06.40 | cog|work | subsonic: I use XML for one simple reason: http://www.wowwiki.com/HOWTO:_Set_up_Visual_Studio_for_WoW_XML |
21:06.40 | Shirik | again, Lua is not an acronym |
21:06.56 | subsonic | Shirik: ahh, thanks |
21:06.56 | Lunessa | deltron: Grid is not for me. I use Clique and I'm happy with it. I don't bother with Healbot, Decursive, or any of those. Just bind my debuff removers to CTRL+RightClick and Shift+RightClick and I'm happy. :P |
21:06.58 | |Jelly| | LUA LUA LUA |
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21:07.12 | subsonic | cog|work: I don't use visual studio :) |
21:07.13 | Shirik | subbawt: It comes down to preference |
21:07.25 | cog|work | you don't have to memorize as many API calls because the XSD file specifies exactly which tags, attributes, and values are applicable so VS can do autocomplete |
21:07.28 | Shirik | pick which you like -- personally I hate XML, I think it just looks ugly and not very straightforward |
21:07.37 | Antiarc|Work | Hey guys, I'm founding the Lua Users Association |
21:07.39 | Antiarc|Work | (LUA for short) |
21:07.42 | foxlit | Shirik: you never intialized the menu, did you? |
21:07.45 | Shirik | but there are reasons to use XML too, some think it looks better because you can easily see its structure |
21:07.54 | Shirik | foxlit: I'm not sure. I have UIDropDownMenu_Initialize() |
21:08.05 | foxlit | Not in the pastey? :) |
21:08.06 | subsonic | Shirik: do you have examples of non XML (I don't think i want to use the xml) |
21:08.15 | foxlit | ah, x2 |
21:08.15 | Shirik | ya, in OnLoad of ExterminatorFrameTitleMenu |
21:08.31 | Shirik | uh |
21:08.34 | Shirik | I have examples, yeah |
21:08.39 | Shirik | they'll probably be unreadable, unfortunately |
21:08.45 | Shirik | I can try though |
21:08.47 | cog|work | subsonic: check out http://home.blarg.net/~tyroney/wow/uitutorial/ |
21:08.58 | cog|work | it's incomplete, but it gives you an idea |
21:08.59 | subsonic | Also, to display fonts, you need to put a CreateFontString in a frame? |
21:08.59 | deltron | Lunessa: I don't use any of the healing mods, I'm one of the pitbull users :P |
21:09.09 | subsonic | cog: thanks |
21:09.45 | Lunessa | deltron: Ah. The general posters made me *facepalm* so I resorted to skimming. |
21:10.05 | deltron | I haven't tried using grid at all |
21:10.10 | deltron | well in a while |
21:10.16 | deltron | I never liked it because it's somewhat too small |
21:10.36 | foxlit | Hrm, that should actually work :/ |
21:10.48 | foxlit | You aren't missing anything obvious that I can see. |
21:10.52 | foxlit | Call! and stuff outputs? |
21:10.55 | Shirik | the only thing that is apparent to me is that Exterminator.MenuInit() is never called it seems |
21:10.56 | Shirik | no |
21:10.57 | Shirik | it doesn't |
21:11.00 | Shirik | as far as I can see |
21:11.13 | foxlit | Okay, then things are going way wrong |
21:11.22 | foxlit | Since that init function should be called on _Initialize call as well |
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21:11.35 | Lunessa | I don't feel the need to add a second set of frames to do what I can do with Pitbull and PerfectRaid. |
21:12.10 | foxlit | Exterminator.MenuInit isn't nil at OnLoad? |
21:12.12 | deltron | yeah |
21:12.18 | deltron | I used to use SimpleRaid |
21:12.23 | deltron | but pitbull is fine for raid frames |
21:12.24 | Shirik | hrm |
21:12.27 | Shirik | actually.. |
21:12.32 | Shirik | I forgot about that |
21:12.35 | |Jelly| | <3 perfect raid |
21:12.56 | Shirik | the lua file is run after the xml file |
21:12.58 | Lunessa | It probably is. but I "less-than-three" PerfectRaid. |
21:13.05 | foxlit | Explains things :) |
21:13.24 | Shirik | hrm |
21:13.28 | Shirik | this is gonna get ugly then |
21:13.39 | Shirik | cause I somewhat need the xml file first too >< |
21:13.48 | foxlit | Don't call it on OnLoad, then |
21:13.55 | deltron | i'll look into perfectraid again |
21:13.56 | subsonic | cog|work: Dude, this is nice. |
21:14.00 | Shirik | oh that's just where I've seen it done |
21:14.03 | foxlit | Load your lua, check if XML frame exists, call it in main Lua chunk :) |
21:14.07 | Shirik | ah ok |
21:14.35 | cog|work | subsonic: not mine, btw :P |
21:14.48 | subsonic | cog|work: still, this is what I'm looking for |
21:15.18 | foxlit | Not that big a deal; I usually load XML after XML-related Lua to avoid that, though (with a definitions-only mainchunk to avoid a horde of errors if I kill the XML file) |
21:15.38 | Shirik | usually I load XML later too |
21:15.45 | Shirik | just in this case something arose where I needed the Lua first |
21:16.10 | Shirik | ok well |
21:16.14 | Shirik | this time I got "Call!" but |
21:16.25 | Shirik | no dropdown menu :( |
21:16.45 | Shirik | does that only get called at the beginning btw? |
21:16.49 | Shirik | or is it supposed to be called on every click? |
21:17.01 | foxlit | It's called whenever a menu should be generated |
21:17.06 | foxlit | + on _Initialize call |
21:17.41 | foxlit | So you should be getting a call after your Toggle ca;; |
21:17.42 | foxlit | call |
21:17.43 | Shirik | hm, so it's only being called on that _Initialize call |
21:18.06 | foxlit | Try running Toggle* manually |
21:19.09 | Shirik | huh |
21:19.10 | Shirik | that's |
21:19.11 | Shirik | omg |
21:19.17 | Shirik | I forgot to register for all clicks -_- |
21:19.25 | Shirik | thanks >.> |
21:19.26 | cog|work | ZING! |
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21:24.27 | Shirik | perfect foxlit thanks |
21:31.35 | subsonic | Woah, status bars are easy :) I'm surpried people haven't used them in quest mods |
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21:32.27 | krka | wtf is up with this mainboard :/ |
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21:48.11 | subsonic | how is layering handled? |
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21:49.22 | subsonic | nm |
22:00.58 | subsonic | Anyway to comment out multiple lines at once? |
22:01.26 | Thrae | subsonic: --[[ lalalala --]] |
22:01.34 | subsonic | thanks |
22:03.34 | Shirik | don't need the -- before ]] |
22:03.36 | Shirik | but ya |
22:05.17 | subsonic | So I was using setWidth instead of SetWidth. How can I see UI errors? |
22:05.39 | Antiarc|Work | I like to use --[[ whatever ]]-- because it's nice and balanced. |
22:05.46 | Lunessa | They're logged in the logs folder |
22:05.48 | Antiarc|Work | subsonic: BugGrabber + BugSack are my preferred poison. |
22:06.41 | subsonic | Antiarc: Just google them? |
22:07.02 | Shirik | yeah I tend to do that as well |
22:07.07 | Shirik | --[[ comment ]]-- |
22:07.14 | Shirik | only time I don't do it is when I have stuff to the right |
22:07.20 | Shirik | like if I commented something out in the middle of a line |
22:07.33 | Shirik | or like one line in my defaults.lua: |
22:07.34 | Shirik | Talubk --[[sic]] = 5,-- This was on wowhead... is that a typo or what?? |
22:09.17 | Antiarc|Work | subsonic: http://files.wowace.com/!BugGrabber/!BugGrabber-r40515.zip and http://files.wowace.com/BugSack/BugSack-r40596.1033.zip |
22:10.16 | Lunessa | "I hope this isn't asking too much but could you put the whole macro together for me?" - And that's what I believe most of our posters are really asking. |
22:11.08 | subsonic | Antiarc: thanks! |
22:13.48 | subsonic | Antiarc: Much nicer :) thanks |
22:15.01 | Antiarc|Work | Makes it nice and easy, huh? :) |
22:15.09 | Mr_Rabies2 | man |
22:15.09 | Mr_Rabies2 | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gi-c6lbFGC4 |
22:15.11 | Mr_Rabies2 | this is crazy |
22:15.11 | subsonic | much better |
22:16.44 | subsonic | Mr_Rabies: oh yeah, seen it, it's horrible! |
22:17.32 | mikma | anyone of you speak that language in the video? |
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22:20.38 | Mr_Rabies2 | that's Arabic, and there's subtitles |
22:20.45 | Mr_Rabies2 | from what i've heard, they're pretty much spot on |
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22:21.07 | Mr_Rabies2 | this is on hamas' official tv station |
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22:28.46 | subsonic | For making a frame without a border, what's the best method? |
22:32.17 | cog|work | don't give it one :P |
22:32.35 | subsonic | cog: so no edgefile? |
22:32.53 | cog|work | pretty sure just ommiting it will work, yeah |
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22:36.57 | subsonic | Where's blizzard's official API docs? |
22:37.17 | MentalPower | inside blizzard |
22:37.54 | subsonic | seems the wiki doesn't have some information about stuff |
22:38.00 | cog|work | Pretty sure they don't even use the docs. they just look at the source code |
22:39.17 | Antiarc|Work | The source is the doc :) |
22:39.27 | cog|work | s/the docs/docs/ |
22:39.34 | Antiarc|Work | All the doc on the WoW API is user-generated, barring some comments in the source files. |
22:39.50 | Shirik | -- HACK |
22:39.51 | Shirik | -- END HACK |
22:39.58 | Shirik | <3 |
22:39.59 | cog|work | <3 blizz code |
22:40.04 | Antiarc|Work | Well, like the secure headers stuff. |
22:40.07 | Antiarc|Work | Lots of good doc in there. |
22:40.24 | cog|work | yeah, but that's because Iriel had to explain it to Slouken >< |
22:40.28 | Antiarc|Work | Hahahah |
22:40.31 | sag_ich_nicht | yes |
22:40.31 | sag_ich_nicht | >< |
22:40.39 | sag_ich_nicht | wtb some people from here working for blizzard |
22:41.12 | cog|work | that would be shweet... i'd so just walk out of my job if they offered me one :P |
22:41.37 | sag_ich_nicht | wait |
22:41.43 | sag_ich_nicht | doesn't alexander work for them? |
22:41.48 | cog|work | yeah |
22:41.50 | sag_ich_nicht | (well, not like he's around much :P) |
22:42.09 | cog|work | but i don't think he does UI work there... |
22:42.12 | sag_ich_nicht | i know |
22:42.19 | sag_ich_nicht | he's a "game designer" |
22:42.33 | sag_ich_nicht | someone should punch him to take a look at the UI code from time to time |
22:44.18 | sag_ich_nicht | cog|work: maybe you should just send them a resume :P (unless you already did) |
22:45.11 | cog|work | No job postings for ui work :( |
22:45.20 | sag_ich_nicht | that means nothing. |
22:45.36 | cog|work | I work at a place where people randomly send us resumes... they get tossed >< |
22:45.59 | sag_ich_nicht | you need a good letter with the resume then :P |
22:46.42 | cog|work | I'd need a REALLY good letter, 'cause my resume is mostly irrelevant except for the Skills section... education & work experience are completely unrelated |
22:47.07 | cog|work | plus i'd have to convince them that i'd stop being a dick on the forums >< |
22:47.40 | cog|work | (though, now that |Jelly|'s around, i may be able to :P ) |
22:47.41 | sag_ich_nicht | lawl |
22:47.46 | sag_ich_nicht | heh |
22:47.54 | sag_ich_nicht | looks like they changed their policy though |
22:48.15 | sag_ich_nicht | they had a "but send us something anyway if you think you're really good"-like sentence on the jobs site somewhere |
22:48.23 | sag_ich_nicht | they don't anymore, more of the reverse |
22:48.23 | sag_ich_nicht | D: |
22:48.31 | sag_ich_nicht | |Jelly| |
22:48.34 | sag_ich_nicht | go make a troll post |
22:48.49 | sag_ich_nicht | "Slouken you need assistance, get them to hire some for you" |
22:49.13 | Tem|Work | slouken isn't actually the "ui guy" |
22:49.22 | Tem|Work | his job is elsewhere |
22:49.38 | Tem|Work | spells, pathing, pet ai, I think |
22:49.50 | sag_ich_nicht | he's the only one really doing any work on the forums though :P |
22:49.53 | sag_ich_nicht | dev side |
22:49.54 | sag_ich_nicht | well |
22:49.57 | sag_ich_nicht | and eyonix |
22:49.58 | sag_ich_nicht | but |
22:50.02 | sag_ich_nicht | eyonix is well |
22:50.05 | sag_ich_nicht | a dick. |
22:50.13 | Tem|Work | eyonix does not get SHIT for credit on the ui forums |
22:50.38 | sag_ich_nicht | i am talking about the forums in general |
22:50.39 | Tem|Work | but he was cool guy during the end of beta event |
22:50.44 | Antiarc|Work | I'd actually wondered about that. Slouken seems more like the guy that works on the C<->Lua interface than the actual implementation of the WoW UI. |
22:50.50 | Antiarc|Work | So who writes the majority of the WoW UI code? |
22:50.53 | cog|work | Antiarc|Work: exactly |
22:50.57 | Tem|Work | he joined our ui dev guild |
22:50.58 | cog|work | they have other minions |
22:51.15 | cog|work | artists & lua coders |
22:51.16 | Tem|Work | and he ported to my level 45 shaman when I was stuck between a bunch of their spawned mobs |
22:51.25 | Tem|Work | to one shot them for me |
22:51.28 | Tem|Work | it was kinda cool |
22:51.30 | sag_ich_nicht | i remember beta shutdown |
22:51.45 | sag_ich_nicht | "HI I AM ONYXIA AND SHALL NOW COME OUT OF MY CAVE AND EAT EVERYONE" |
22:52.06 | kaiden | i want to see a sleeper like event in wow |
22:52.07 | sag_ich_nicht | infernals everywhere D: |
22:52.09 | kaiden | that'd be fun :) |
22:52.31 | sag_ich_nicht | wtb scourge invasion |
22:52.35 | sag_ich_nicht | also GM events |
22:52.36 | sag_ich_nicht | but noooooooo |
22:53.14 | kaiden | so i wonder if blizzard intends on revamping mc/bwl/aq/naxx |
22:53.21 | sag_ich_nicht | well |
22:53.24 | kaiden | since.. little to nobody goes there anymore |
22:53.27 | sag_ich_nicht | they intend on revamping gnomeregan. |
22:53.30 | Antiarc|Work | I'd heard some rumor about them possibly upgrading Naxx to a level 70 zone. |
22:53.41 | sag_ich_nicht | (and that's not a joke either) |
22:53.45 | Antiarc|Work | Which would be awesome, because I love Naxx. |
22:53.51 | sag_ich_nicht | lol naxx |
22:54.08 | kaiden | revamp the zone, make it a little less tough, change all the loot |
22:54.13 | sag_ich_nicht | nah |
22:54.17 | sag_ich_nicht | leave the toughness |
22:54.34 | sag_ich_nicht | naxx is naxx |
22:54.44 | sag_ich_nicht | just make it work for 25 people |
22:54.46 | sag_ich_nicht | not 40. |
22:55.02 | sag_ich_nicht | because you still need like 40 at 70 to get through naxx, unless you're really good |
22:55.03 | sag_ich_nicht | >_< |
22:55.04 | kaiden | i dunno, i really liked the idea of dungeon difficulty levels, but they didn't put enough work into it |
22:55.35 | kaiden | that should have had multiple tiers, not just 1 easy tier that gave pretty shit loot then 1 uber tier that you had to have the loot to get to |
22:55.40 | kaiden | they could do that with Naxx |
22:56.59 | sag_ich_nicht | WTB the following dungeons and places: uldum, the instance in the wetlands, the second stormwind prison, the BG in azshara |
22:57.35 | sag_ich_nicht | i forgot something |
22:57.43 | sag_ich_nicht | right, kingdoms south of silverpine |
22:57.48 | sag_ich_nicht | mirror karazhan |
22:57.54 | sag_ich_nicht | and uh |
22:58.02 | cog|work | hyjal? |
22:58.09 | cog|work | present-day |
22:58.11 | sag_ich_nicht | yeah but hyjal is borked :P |
22:58.16 | sag_ich_nicht | yeah hyjal |
22:58.20 | sag_ich_nicht | deathwings place |
22:58.27 | sag_ich_nicht | (or who ever else that cave belongs to :P) |
22:58.38 | sag_ich_nicht | uhm, the playertown or what ever the hell the other portal in stormwind is for |
22:59.12 | sag_ich_nicht | uhm... the instance that should be in the nightelf starting area in that cave |
22:59.29 | sag_ich_nicht | the story behind the naga in tanaris |
22:59.57 | sag_ich_nicht | continueing the burned down inn, the missing diplomat, eranikus chained esssence(and NOT the stupid thing from the AQ event) |
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23:00.20 | sag_ich_nicht | also emerald dream |
23:00.41 | sag_ich_nicht | also uhm.... wait, there is more, yeah, that furbolg keep |
23:00.57 | sag_ich_nicht | also the goblin capital |
23:01.13 | sag_ich_nicht | well yeah |
23:01.17 | sag_ich_nicht | fuck you and gimme blizz D: |
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23:17.37 | AnduinLothar | zomg traffic on google maps. win. |
23:19.09 | Tem|Work | woot |
23:19.11 | Tem|Work | darkrun |
23:19.12 | Tem|Work | e |
23:19.38 | Tem|Work | AnduinLothar, I like how on google traffic it basically just shows your entire area of the world as red |
23:19.48 | AnduinLothar | yeah.. |
23:21.23 | AnduinLothar | bet it's no coincidence it's announced right before the iPhone is released |
23:21.35 | Tem|Work | heh |
23:21.42 | Tem|Work | it's been up for at least a month |
23:22.09 | AnduinLothar | right. draggable routes go up at the same time? |
23:22.20 | Tem|Work | ah, no |
23:22.33 | Tem|Work | I haven't messed with it at all because my area isn't supported |
23:23.22 | Antiarc|Work | http://svn.wowace.com/wowace/trunk/Omen/Omen.lua looks right to me. |
23:23.26 | Antiarc|Work | Err. |
23:23.28 | Antiarc|Work | Wrong channel. |
23:25.30 | sag_ich_nicht | it might look right, but that doesn't change the fact that the commit is broken. |
23:25.46 | Antiarc|Work | I'm just saying that I think it's the files script rather than the file I committed :P |
23:26.08 | sag_ich_nicht | well what ever file is on the fileserver right doesn't have the bug fixed it should have fixed :P |
23:27.28 | Antiarc|Work | *grin* |
23:27.36 | Antiarc|Work | I'll get to it when I get home :D |
23:29.48 | Tem|Work | oh wow |
23:29.56 | Tem|Work | I farmed 3k scryer rep yesterday |
23:30.29 | Tem|Work | if I can keep that up, I'll be exalted in less than a week |
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23:55.36 | sag_ich_nicht | lol |
23:55.38 | sag_ich_nicht | daze explained |
23:55.39 | sag_ich_nicht | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=115042266&sid=1 |
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