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| 00:17.58 | |Jelly| | You all miss me?! |
| 00:18.02 | zenzelezz | you were gone? |
| 00:18.09 | |Jelly| | Ouch. |
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| 00:26.33 | foxlit | wru, conversation? |
| 00:26.44 | Shirik | wow |Jelly| |
| 00:26.57 | Shirik | "Shard your equipment. Uninstall WoW. Toss computer. In that order" |
| 00:26.57 | Shirik | lol |
| 00:27.23 | Shirik | lol! |
| 00:27.26 | Shirik | someone quoted it |
| 00:27.29 | Shirik | (QFT'ed it?) |
| 00:27.51 | |Jelly| | *shrug* At least someone appreciates me! |
| 00:32.32 | zenzelezz | I refuse to support it |
| 00:32.40 | zenzelezz | everyone knows it's aluminium foil that's effective |
| 00:33.10 | foxlit | Change item name appropriately! Do eeet! |
| 00:33.19 | Shirik | Trace on. Structure established. Reinforcement complete. |
| 00:33.29 | Shirik | Now it's an extremely powerful aluminum foil hat |
| 00:33.42 | Shirik | (Sorry, watching way too much fate/stay night lately) |
| 00:34.07 | foxlit | Shirik, LOLACERDX must have tinfoil hat embedded :P |
| 00:34.37 | Shirik | and unfortunately the 4th dvd isn't out yet |
| 00:34.39 | Shirik | so no more to watch :( |
| 00:34.45 | Shirik | and I don't know any channels to download it from anymore :( |
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| 00:36.11 | Shirik | http://bash.org/?777323 |
| 00:36.12 | Shirik | !! |
| 00:36.13 | Shirik | awesome |
| 00:36.50 | Bleeter | Shirik: welcome to yesterday |
| 00:36.56 | Shirik | =( |
| 00:37.26 | Bleeter | actually.. it's probably still today where you are, and not tomorrow like it is here |
| 00:37.31 | Bleeter | so as you were |
| 00:37.38 | clad|afk | tomorrowland ftw |
| 00:38.10 | foxlit | Write me an XML parser :( |
| 00:38.38 | Bleeter | libxml2? |
| 00:38.44 | Bleeter | tmi, Shirik|Tennis |
| 00:38.48 | Shirik|Tennis | ^^ |
| 00:38.49 | Bleeter | oh, tennis.. nm |
| 00:38.50 | foxlit | I seem to have gotten myself in a situation when nesting tags with the same name will fail horribly |
| 00:38.59 | Shirik|Tennis | foxlit: org.xml.parser |
| 00:39.02 | Shirik|Tennis | er |
| 00:39.07 | Shirik|Tennis | I mean sax.xml.parser >< |
| 00:39.21 | Shirik|Tennis | http://sax.sourceforge.net/ |
| 00:39.29 | Shirik|Tennis | gah!! |
| 00:39.38 | Shirik|Tennis | org.xml.sax.Parser |
| 00:39.40 | Shirik|Tennis | I was close enough |
| 00:39.51 | foxlit | Lua? :) |
| 00:39.59 | Shirik|Tennis | write a java to lua interpreter |
| 00:40.00 | Shirik|Tennis | there you go |
| 00:40.08 | foxlit | Great! |
| 00:40.23 | Bleeter | http://xmlsoft.org/ and use C<->lua foo |
| 00:40.25 | Shirik|Tennis | you didn't specify a language, and you didn't indicate that there should be no work done by you to make it a usable form :) |
| 00:41.06 | foxlit | I have a feeling that recoding mine to deal with nested tags will be painful but easier than most other things |
| 00:41.20 | Shirik|Tennis | why do you need xml parsing anyway |
| 00:41.26 | Shirik|Tennis | oh this isn't in WoW I assume? |
| 00:41.28 | foxlit | Armory. |
| 00:41.34 | foxlit | Yeah, it's outside. |
| 00:41.46 | Shirik|Tennis | well in any case |
| 00:41.47 | foxlit | Foxbot over there is converting armory items to wiki pages and so on |
| 00:41.52 | Shirik|Tennis | I tend to not like to use XML parsers when I don't have to |
| 00:42.04 | Shirik|Tennis | for simplistic things, it's far easier to use regexes (or in Lua's case, patterns) |
| 00:42.11 | Shirik|Tennis | but for more complex things, that may not be an option |
| 00:42.23 | clad|afk | there are a few lua xml libs |
| 00:42.26 | clad|afk | or use python |
| 00:46.47 | cogwheel | http://lua-users.org/wiki/LuaXml |
| 00:47.36 | Shirik|Tennis | that's the easy way out |
| 00:47.37 | Shirik|Tennis | don't do it! |
| 00:47.52 | cogwheel | :P |
| 00:47.53 | Shirik|Tennis | that's like using Ace for Lua. You should code the string library yourself, too. |
| 00:47.58 | clad|afk | heh, i was hoping we didn't have to do the google search for him |
| 00:48.24 | cogwheel | i use one of those parsers to convert my XHTML masters into WoW forum posts :) |
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| 01:07.14 | zenzelezz | is the reset timer on the daily quest tooltip (in quest log) inaccurate or something? It's seven minutes past the timer now and still nothing |
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| 01:19.38 | Legorol | zenzelezz: it's wrong for EU |
| 01:19.47 | Legorol | daily quests reset at 4am server time in EU |
| 01:20.55 | Mr_Rabies2 | it's off for us too |
| 01:23.31 | zenzelezz | Legorol: bah... thanks for the info though |
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| 01:40.31 | |Jelly| | So where's the option to shift+click on a name in chat to do a /who on them...and why would it randomly turn off? |
| 01:42.57 | Mr_Rabies2 | some addons have broken it for me in the past |
| 01:43.18 | |Jelly| | I didn't change anything -- I've been gone for three days. |
| 01:43.43 | Mr_Rabies2 | try deleting the uhh |
| 01:43.55 | |Jelly| | stuff with the things? |
| 01:44.04 | Mr_Rabies2 | camera and chatframe location thing in the wtf folder |
| 01:44.09 | Mr_Rabies2 | or renaming them |
| 01:45.28 | Mr_Rabies2 | and if that doesn't do it, try disabling all chatframe related addons, it could just be "one of those things" |
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| 01:48.53 | Mr_Rabies2 | oh snap |
| 01:48.56 | Mr_Rabies2 | http://www.uploadyourimages.com/img/960768zombie.jpg |
| 01:49.12 | |Jelly| | Updating Prat seems to have fixed it. |
| 01:49.17 | Mr_Rabies2 | chinese WoW 2.1.2 got all the skeletons removed |
| 01:49.38 | Mr_Rabies2 | including forsaken skeletons sticking out |
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| 01:51.52 | Mr_Rabies2 | http://www.uploadyourimages.com/img/878242alterac.jpg |
| 01:51.53 | Mr_Rabies2 | there's AV |
| 01:52.20 | Mr_Rabies2 | all the skeletons from death got turned into graves |
| 01:53.41 | Industrial | why? |
| 01:53.58 | Mr_Rabies2 | apparently it's illegal to show skeletons in works of art |
| 01:54.14 | Industrial | erk least make it the tombstones only |
| 01:54.28 | Industrial | not the mounds of dirt |
| 01:54.29 | Industrial | :P |
| 01:55.15 | Mr_Rabies2 | everything skeletal got changed to not be |
| 01:55.31 | Mr_Rabies2 | except skeletal warhorses apparently because they're not humanoid |
| 01:56.05 | zenzelezz | what does the Chinese Noggenfogger look like? |
| 01:56.23 | Mr_Rabies2 | i dunno, haven't seen it yet |
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| 02:05.12 | Industrial | Mr_Rabies2: you are playing on cwow? |
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| 02:05.39 | Mr_Rabies2 | no |
| 02:05.46 | Mr_Rabies2 | some thread, lemme find it |
| 02:06.16 | Mr_Rabies2 | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=114252776&sid=1 |
| 02:07.04 | Industrial | thanjks |
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| 02:44.37 | |Jelly| | Shirik: Ping |
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| 02:53.17 | Aella | Congrats/condolances, |Jelly|. |
| 02:53.32 | |Jelly| | Wait. What? |
| 02:53.32 | Bleeter | not sure whether it's illegal, pretty sure it's more like showing pictures of JC bleeding on a cross, or some similar blasphemous imagery |
| 02:53.41 | Aella | Your little level 9 troll. |
| 02:54.05 | |Jelly| | Aella. I lol'd iRL. Thanks. |
| 02:54.35 | Aella | No prob, let me know if you find out where he lives. |
| 02:59.28 | clad|afk | can you spawn a coroutine inside a coroutine? |
| 02:59.33 | Aella | Yep. |
| 02:59.41 | clad|afk | whats the interaction with the parent coroutine at that point? |
| 03:00.03 | clad|afk | hrm.. i probably need threads to do this correctly |
| 03:00.06 | Aella | Exactly the same as main thread -> first-level coroutine. |
| 03:00.16 | clad|afk | yeah, i knew the answer as soon as i typed it =) |
| 03:00.40 | Aella | Gotta love/hate those kinds of questions. |
| 03:00.58 | clad|afk | tough to have a CPU/Memory guard when you're running in a single thread |
| 03:01.15 | clad|afk | I kinda wanted to avoid spawning a new process to handle incoming requests |
| 03:01.23 | Aella | What is this for? |
| 03:01.40 | clad|afk | a luabot written in pure lua |
| 03:01.51 | clad|afk | for gits and shiggles |
| 03:02.09 | Aella | As in no AppleScript? |
| 03:02.15 | clad|afk | as in nothing other than lua. |
| 03:02.34 | Aella | That kind shoots down preemptive multithreading, then. =P |
| 03:02.37 | clad|afk | =) |
| 03:02.43 | clad|afk | not entirely, I could get os level threads |
| 03:02.50 | clad|afk | just was planning on avoiding it |
| 03:02.54 | clad|afk | so i'll have to think of something else :P |
| 03:03.14 | Aella | Doesn't that involve... C? |
| 03:04.04 | clad|afk | c modules, yes |
| 03:04.11 | clad|afk | you can't do sockets without c |
| 03:04.22 | clad|afk | the point is, its a simple script that doesn't require an irc client to run |
| 03:04.24 | clad|afk | just luasocket |
| 03:04.31 | Aella | Sure you can, just very, very painfully. |
| 03:04.48 | clad|afk | no, you would need to rely on an executable outside of lua |
| 03:04.49 | Aella | But I digress. =P |
| 03:05.17 | clad|afk | unless you can magically open a socket using io.open |
| 03:05.25 | clad|afk | a tcp socket specifically |
| 03:05.36 | clad|afk | can you? |
| 03:05.43 | Aella | Not to my knowledge. |
| 03:05.53 | clad|afk | then you'd need something else, as I said =) |
| 03:07.01 | Aella | I probably should've been content with s/in pure lua/without external dependancies/ |
| 03:07.26 | clad|afk | how would you do it without external deps |
| 03:07.48 | clad|afk | or am I still misunderstanding you |
| 03:08.11 | Aella | Was using external dependancies there to mean everything but Lua modules. |
| 03:08.19 | clad|afk | oh, okay |
| 03:08.23 | clad|afk | I wonder |
| 03:08.30 | clad|afk | could i redefine os.exit in my sandbox script |
| 03:08.44 | clad|afk | or call back into the irc bot script |
| 03:08.59 | clad|afk | I'd rather leave the limit code in sandbox.lua for prettiness reasons |
| 03:09.43 | clad|afk | lol |
| 03:10.04 | clad|afk | night all |
| 03:10.09 | Aella | 'Night. |
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| 03:15.45 | Aella | I *think* (could be wrong) that I need a lobotomy. |
| 03:16.17 | mikma | lobotomy is nice |
| 03:16.26 | mikma | you don't have to worry about anything after it |
| 03:16.32 | Aella | Ah, good, channel *isn't* dead. |
| 03:16.56 | Aella | My reasoning: when Cide joined I had a strange urge to yell "zomg ctmod suxz0rs". |
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| 03:18.42 | Cide | Aella: you should've |
| 03:18.52 | Aella | It might've... been painful. |
| 03:18.59 | Cide | not too bad :) |
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| 04:41.39 | Cairenn | http://www.wowinterface.com/forums/showthread.php?p=59040#post59040 |
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| 04:48.37 | Nom- | Special request |
| 04:48.55 | Nom- | Can we get some photos of you and some blizz people |
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| 05:13.43 | Corrodias | we had our first attempt on the prince tonight. in two tries, he was down to 35%, but then we had to leave it for tomorrow due to time constraints of a few members. |
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| 06:44.51 | krka|work | false alarm, i haven't fixed my computer :/ |
| 06:44.54 | krka|work | when did i disconnect? |
| 06:45.49 | MentalPower | [20:13:16]|<--krka has left freenode (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) |
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| 06:46.10 | krka|work | hmm |
| 06:46.17 | krka|work | 5.5 hours then |
| 06:46.32 | krka|work | thanks |
| 06:46.44 | krka|work | i wonder what could have shut it down |
| 06:48.54 | ckknight | gnomes |
| 06:51.17 | MentalPower | ~seen Kaelten |
| 06:51.28 | purl | kaelten <n=kaelten@69.109.103.158> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 7h 26m 40s ago, saying: 'vhaarr: so I hear'. |
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| 06:53.56 | krka|work | i'm thinking it could be a busted capacitor on graphics card or mainboard |
| 06:54.01 | krka|work | since it runs fine for so long |
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| 07:04.13 | Corrodias | party 1: prot warrior, shadow priest, holy paladin, holy paladin, warlock (affliction and destruction, i think. not sure.). party 2: resto shaman, enh shaman, feral druid, somekinda rogue, MM hunter |
| 07:04.36 | Corrodias | the buffs were pretty impressive over there in group 2 |
| 07:05.11 | Corrodias | during one fight i think i reached 3800 AP |
| 07:05.18 | Corrodias | (feral druid) |
| 07:05.45 | JunkHead-Work | Your Kara group? |
| 07:06.00 | Corrodias | yes |
| 07:06.12 | JunkHead-Work | We went today. Let me think what all we had. |
| 07:06.54 | JunkHead-Work | Prot Warrior, Feral Druid, 2 Rogues, Hunter, Mage, Warlock, Holy Priest, and 2 Holy Paladins. |
| 07:07.09 | JunkHead-Work | 1 Rogue left, and we replaced him with an Arms Warrior. |
| 07:07.24 | Corrodias | also a good balance |
| 07:07.37 | Corrodias | almost the same, in fact. :o |
| 07:08.07 | Corrodias | well, 3 differences in a group of 10 isn't "almost the same" |
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| 09:07.52 | krka|work | so... my computer ran fine for 9 hours last night... and then froze |
| 09:08.04 | krka|work | anyone care to guess as to what can cause that kind of behavior |
| 09:08.14 | krka|work | worth noting that it crashed while just idling in the middle of the night |
| 09:20.15 | Legorol | morning |
| 09:20.24 | Legorol | krka|work: sorry to hear aobut your troubles |
| 09:20.37 | krka|work | no real worries... it's only hardware |
| 09:20.54 | krka|work | lots of people with real troubles out there |
| 09:20.54 | Legorol | well one's gotta be careful about one's hardware |
| 09:21.02 | Legorol | true |
| 09:21.27 | Legorol | make sure that your computer drinks plenty, has regular exercise and fresh air, if it's got problem with the hardware |
| 09:22.07 | krka|work | i make sure not to let it drink anything! |
| 09:22.18 | krka|work | you wouldnt happen to have any good guesses? |
| 09:22.35 | krka|work | i think it might be a busted capacitor in graphics card, mobo or psu |
| 09:22.42 | krka|work | memory seems fine, i ran memtest |
| 09:23.20 | krka|work | and my only two symptoms are: 1) random screen corruption, like vertical lines of various colors and 2) computer suddenly freezing |
| 09:23.23 | nevcairiel | was it running any backgroudn tasks? like downloading, seti@home, anything ? ^^ |
| 09:23.29 | krka|work | nevcairiel, not really |
| 09:23.36 | krka|work | except irssi in a screen |
| 09:23.59 | nevcairiel | random screen corruption sounds a bit like graphics |
| 09:24.00 | krka|work | actually, can't remember i had azureus running |
| 09:24.14 | krka|work | yeah, it does, doesn't it? |
| 09:24.29 | krka|work | but could the graphics card take down the computer with it? |
| 09:24.34 | nevcairiel | sure |
| 09:24.41 | krka|work | hm |
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| 09:24.47 | krka|work | i'll buy a new graphics card then |
| 09:24.58 | krka|work | the current one isn't all that great for wow anyway |
| 09:26.00 | nevcairiel | i somehow managed to destroy my graphics card once, pc just went down and wouldnt start up again .. and after that, my IDE controller was funky, even with a new gfx card .. so if something goes wrong there, it can potentally destroy alot with it |
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| 09:26.11 | krka|work | ouch |
| 09:26.19 | krka|work | define funky |
| 09:26.36 | nevcairiel | with IDE harddrives, it takes like 2 minutes on boot to detect them |
| 09:26.53 | nevcairiel | i replaced all ide drives with sata drives now |
| 09:27.00 | nevcairiel | no money for a new mobo |
| 09:27.13 | krka|work | ah |
| 09:27.46 | nevcairiel | simply switched the sata drive from my other comp in that one, and the other got the IDE .. no real issue :) |
| 09:27.54 | krka|work | right |
| 09:27.58 | nevcairiel | but still anoying |
| 09:28.02 | krka|work | i was stupid enough to buy a new ide-drive |
| 09:28.07 | krka|work | when my new computer had sata connections |
| 09:28.23 | krka|work | works nicely enough though |
| 09:28.26 | nevcairiel | heh |
| 09:28.27 | krka|work | dont think it's a real bottleneck |
| 09:28.38 | nevcairiel | new mobos only have one IDE channel now for cd drives |
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| 09:29.17 | krka|work | yeah, i noticed that |
| 09:29.29 | krka|work | i couldn't boot up a livecd to clone my old drive into my new drive |
| 09:29.34 | krka|work | since that would require 3 ide slots |
| 09:29.44 | zenzelezz | 3? |
| 09:29.57 | krka|work | 1 for dvd drive, 1 for old hd, 1 for new hd |
| 09:30.09 | krka|work | one ide channel only provides two slots |
| 09:30.35 | zenzelezz | ah, too early still... somehow I pictured three cables |
| 09:32.17 | krka|work | which graphics card should i get? http://www.webhallen.com/list.php?avd=3&konsol=13&genre=1723&chr=&sort=4 |
| 09:32.31 | krka|work | i am willing to pay up to 8-900 |
| 09:33.31 | Legorol | in what currency? |
| 09:33.44 | krka|work | SEK |
| 09:33.54 | Kirkburn|sleep | (Btw, EU WoW is having major connection issues this morning - http://forums.wow-europe.com/thread.html?topicId=298942316&pageNo=1&sid=1 ) |
| 09:34.02 | krka|work | so around 10 SEK for 1 Euro |
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| 09:34.35 | krka|work | or about 7 SEK for 1 USD |
| 09:34.57 | zenzelezz | Kirkburn|sleep: peculiar, and it's only some ISPs? |
| 09:34.57 | Legorol | Kirkburn|sleep: thanks for the heads up |
| 09:35.06 | Kirkburn|sleep | Yeah |
| 09:35.07 | zenzelezz | at least mine seems to be unaffected |
| 09:35.15 | Kirkburn|sleep | Over the entire EU, but only some users |
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| 09:37.41 | zenzelezz | connection trouble sucks of course; but it's nice to be on the unaffected end for once |
| 09:37.58 | Legorol | My connection is fine too, i just logged in |
| 09:38.08 | Legorol | i'm with zenzelezz on this one |
| 09:38.28 | Legorol | looks like it's the commercial ISPs having problems |
| 09:38.38 | Legorol | zenzelezz: i dont' suppose you are at university or something like that? |
| 09:39.05 | Legorol | i know that my route to Telia is via an academic backbone, separate from commercial ISPs in the UK |
| 09:40.40 | zenzelezz | Legorol: nope, on a regular Norwegian home connection. Seems mine isn't having trouble, but a few others have been posted about in the thread \o/ |
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| 09:47.44 | Kirkburn|sleep | (Still no luck for me) |
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| 10:21.13 | Kirkburn | Btw, in Warcraft movie news - http://www.wowinsider.com/2007/06/27/thomas-tull-on-the-world-of-warcraft-movie/ |
| 10:23.55 | Legorol | is there a howto on the wiki about creating slash commands, now with the new hash table thingy? |
| 10:24.02 | Legorol | i'm a bit lost as to what i'm supposed to do |
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| 10:37.59 | krka|work | finally settled on a 7600gs |
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| 10:52.33 | JoshBorke | but you should just get the 8800 |
| 10:53.18 | nevcairiel | its kinda pricy :p |
| 10:53.23 | krka|work | i want cheap |
| 10:53.35 | JoshBorke | naw, it's not that pricey :_P |
| 10:54.32 | JoshBorke | the ultra is only 699.99 :-D |
| 10:55.28 | nevcairiel | USD ? :p |
| 10:57.03 | JoshBorke | aye |
| 10:58.17 | JoshBorke | is there any other kind of currency? ;-P |
| 11:02.01 | nevcairiel | € > USD |
| 11:02.38 | krka|work | SEK > € > USD |
| 11:05.17 | Kirkburn | GBP >>>>>>>> All :P |
| 11:05.22 | Kirkburn | Wait, were we not doing that? |
| 11:05.43 | Kirkburn | Why get the last gen krka? |
| 11:05.54 | Legorol | it's true, 1 GBP is more than 1 of any currency that matters (USD, Euro, Swiss franks) |
| 11:06.13 | Legorol | Japanese yen too |
| 11:06.19 | Kirkburn | There must be a stronger currency than ours surely |
| 11:06.26 | Legorol | oh sure they are lot stronger |
| 11:06.40 | Legorol | but the conversion is such that 1 gbp is more than 1 of other currencies usually ;-) |
| 11:06.53 | Kirkburn | Yeah, that the kind of 'stronger' I was meaning :P |
| 11:07.31 | Kirkburn | Personally, I would rather get a low-mid current gen than high-mid last gen, esp since the 8xxx series is DX10 |
| 11:07.35 | Kirkburn | (but then, I have Vista) |
| 11:08.18 | krka|work | Kirkburn, it was cheaper |
| 11:08.32 | Kirkburn | Fair enough, I just need a new PC |
| 11:08.55 | Kirkburn | No point me getting better than a 6800 GT, since it can barely use all of that |
| 11:10.30 | krka|work | i just want to be able to run the computer without crashing |
| 11:10.37 | krka|work | possibly also run wow and brood war |
| 11:10.56 | nevcairiel | people still play broodwar? |
| 11:11.12 | krka|work | yeah |
| 11:11.16 | krka|work | awesome game |
| 11:15.17 | Kirkburn | Brood War, such a graphically intensive game |
| 11:21.53 | krka|work | yeah :( |
| 11:29.07 | Kirkburn | Too .... many .... sprites! |
| 11:29.20 | krka|work | :) |
| 11:29.25 | krka|work | i sometimes play war3 too! |
| 11:29.37 | JoshBorke | brood war slows down my computer sometimes |
| 11:36.45 | Kirkburn | How to pour ketchup - http://www.icogitate.com/~ergosum/essays/ketchup/ketchup.htm |
| 11:40.07 | krka|work | informative! |
| 11:40.13 | krka|work | (+3) |
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| 11:50.36 | Legorol | lovely ketchup article |
| 11:57.55 | Matrix110 | We got squeze Bottles they make things easier:P |
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| 12:18.48 | haste | we've gotten that in norway also |
| 12:18.58 | haste | and they stand with the top down! |
| 12:19.02 | haste | (oh the logic!) |
| 12:19.16 | haste | the top is down, which makes the top the bottom... *BZZT* |
| 12:19.34 | nevcairiel | lol |
| 12:19.37 | nevcairiel | we get ya :P |
| 12:20.07 | haste | yeh, I'm just very unserious after actually running in the sun for 1h |
| 12:20.46 | Josh_Borke | i burn when the sun just barely touches my skin |
| 12:20.57 | haste | haven't done anything sporty the last three years, when we stopped playing paintball here |
| 12:21.12 | haste | so I went out and played soccer with some kids D: |
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| 12:21.39 | nevcairiel | heh |
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| 12:27.19 | foxlit | YouTube comments for "don't download this song" make me lose faith in humanity's future :( |
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| 13:34.19 | cladhaire | lua> return _G |
| 13:34.19 | cladbot | cladhaire: { ["log"] = function: 0x806f880, ["wow"] = { ["strconcat"] = function: 0x80702e0, ["strtrim"] = function: 0x8070220, ["strsplit"] = function: 0x8070260, ["getglobal"] = function: 0x8070320, ["strjoin"] = function: 0x80702a0, ["debugstack"] = function: 0x8... (result truncated) |
| 13:35.47 | cladhaire | this bot has some spam prevention code in it, so if you request more than five commands in 30 seconds, it will blacklist the channel for 15 minutes and only respond to requests via PM. |
| 13:36.08 | cladhaire | probably crashable tho, I'm sure I missed something.. feel free to join #luabot to spam him :P |
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| 14:19.20 | Shirik | clad|away: How does lightheaded know where to position the arrows? |
| 14:19.29 | Shirik | s/lightheaded/tomtom/ |
| 14:21.18 | deltron | what do you mean? |
| 14:21.35 | Josh_Borke | because of astrolabe |
| 14:21.56 | Shirik | well something's off :/ |
| 14:22.04 | Shirik | not anchored right or something |
| 14:22.10 | Josh_Borke | are you playing widescreen? |
| 14:22.20 | Shirik | nope, but I have moved the minimap |
| 14:22.36 | deltron | I haven't had any issues with it and I play widescreen.. |
| 14:22.41 | Shirik | now the arrows are in the middle of the minimap, etc. |
| 14:23.04 | deltron | oh minimap arrows? |
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| 14:31.19 | deltron | http://img179.imageshack.us/img179/1303/wowscrnshot062607221404ek9.jpg <-- my config |
| 14:31.43 | Legorol | I was contemplating today about what I like and dislike about the Ace project, and I think I finally hit the nail |
| 14:32.04 | haste | 110MB :D |
| 14:32.09 | Legorol | I mean about why there are users who love it and idolise it like a sports star, why there are people who don't, |
| 14:32.19 | Legorol | why are there addon coders who participate, and why there are those who don't |
| 14:32.39 | haste | and why have several authors stopped using ace2, the question remains! |
| 14:32.53 | Legorol | My conclusion: the Ace project and many Ace-based addons have a very assertive PR approach |
| 14:33.04 | Legorol | It is very good and effective |
| 14:33.14 | Legorol | It contains many good things in its PR approach |
| 14:33.36 | Legorol | Unfortunately it inherently nurtures the cause for dissatisfaction by some people, which is that it is sometimes based on *negative* publicity |
| 14:33.45 | clad|away | Shirik: If you're not playing widescreen, then it won't be correct righ tnow. |
| 14:33.49 | Legorol | i.e. claiming why the competition is rubbish and yours better |
| 14:33.56 | Shirik | oh |
| 14:34.00 | Shirik | I used to play widescreen |
| 14:34.06 | Shirik | then recently I stopped so ^^; |
| 14:34.12 | clad|away | Shirik: Thats the difference.. Iriel gave me some code to help fix it up. |
| 14:34.16 | Shirik | but I also recently moved my minimap that's what I thoughti t was |
| 14:34.17 | clad|away | i'll get you a new version when i get my laptop back |
| 14:34.18 | Legorol | I think I realised that's my only main problem with Ace and related activities |
| 14:34.23 | Shirik | ok :) |
| 14:34.46 | Legorol | I respect many of the coders (and i don't respect some, but hey we are all entitled to our preferences), and I like a lot of the work involved |
| 14:34.55 | Legorol | I just wish that the negative PR elements were removed |
| 14:35.03 | krka|work | if my new graphic card helps, and i can run wow in linux, i think i'll give autotravel one more try |
| 14:35.12 | Legorol | On the other hand I recognise it as being an extremely succesful tool at promoting your own project |
| 14:35.32 | clad|away | to the detriment both personally, and with regards to so called "market share" |
| 14:35.35 | clad|away | when used negatively |
| 14:35.39 | haste | too successful |
| 14:35.41 | Legorol | hi cladhaire |
| 14:35.52 | cladhaire | More often than not, these smear campaigns aren't even launched by the authors (those I respect) |
| 14:35.54 | haste | seems like some people use it to ride of the wave |
| 14:36.01 | Legorol | cladhaire: correct |
| 14:36.05 | cladhaire | Other authors do it with glee |
| 14:36.10 | krka|work | i am just annoyed by all the overhead and overly complicated code |
| 14:36.10 | Shirik | it's true |
| 14:36.13 | cladhaire | and the users tend to do it blindly with no regard for the implicatinos of it. |
| 14:36.16 | Legorol | however, i too often see ace or ace-related activites (such as ace-based addons) which are essentially rewrites of older addons |
| 14:36.19 | krka|work | makes it hard to interface with and/or read |
| 14:36.21 | TS|Skrom | Legorol wouldn't that be indicative of a general flaw in Ace? I mean... if the only pr they can seem to generate is negative then is there really enough to make it a standout product by it's own right? |
| 14:36.34 | Legorol | no, i never said that's the only PR |
| 14:36.37 | Legorol | you misread me |
| 14:36.56 | Legorol | i said one of the main points i dislike is the use of negative PR (in addition to positive) |
| 14:37.05 | Legorol | it's not surprising that a rewrite ends up better, if you can build on experience of existing projects |
| 14:37.18 | TS|Skrom | oh my bad ;-) |
| 14:37.23 | krka|work | i always rewrite my old stuff |
| 14:37.25 | Legorol | that's one of the other things: i feel there is often not enough acknowledgement of the previous work |
| 14:37.42 | Legorol | let's take for example Omen vs. KTM, which is imo a perfect example of the things i'm talking about |
| 14:37.52 | Legorol | yes Omen is more efficient, yes it does more, it has new tricks etc. |
| 14:38.00 | Legorol | it has a bunch of positive things and features |
| 14:38.16 | Legorol | so why does it have to list KTM's negative points (and negative points only) on its description page? |
| 14:38.20 | cladhaire | A legitimate complaint I have wrt PR, is that many addons are touted as "MODULAR AND EFFICIENT", when modularity introduces signifigant overhead in an addon. The point also becomes moot when an addon is only distributed with all of its modules "enabled" and as part of the core addon. |
| 14:38.38 | Legorol | and it doesn't add due acknowledgement to the pioneering work that went into KTM, imo |
| 14:39.06 | Legorol | cladhaire: i see that as a minor problem actually compared to the ones i have |
| 14:39.14 | Legorol | but that's also true probably |
| 14:39.41 | Legorol | i'd like to illustrate the negative PR with two examples from http://www.wowace.com/wiki/Make_it_Ace%27d |
| 14:39.58 | Legorol | "Easy distribution -- WowAceUpdater is, hands down, the single easiest way to ..." |
| 14:40.11 | Legorol | who is to say that wau is the best? |
| 14:40.19 | Gnarfoz | Legorol: don't know which description page you're reading, but Omen has no KTM bashing in it's description... |
| 14:40.33 | Legorol | i knew someone woudl fight back |
| 14:40.35 | krka|work | which is currently the best addon for handling map stuff? |
| 14:40.44 | Legorol | i'm not trying to start a fight |
| 14:41.01 | Legorol | it was an example and an objective expression of some of the things i don't like about ace-like projects |
| 14:41.03 | krka|work | retrieving coordinates / conversions / minimap / add stuff to a visual map / et.c. |
| 14:41.17 | Legorol | and to not be hypocritical, i'm happy to say good things about Ace too |
| 14:41.19 | Gnarfoz | no, you're just rambling, but still, that example was simply wrong? :> |
| 14:41.36 | Legorol | btw, you are right, i owe an apology |
| 14:41.43 | Legorol | i mixed up Omen's page and Threat-1.0's page |
| 14:41.50 | Legorol | i apologies for the incorrect quote |
| 14:41.51 | Wobin | Legorol: linky? |
| 14:41.58 | Legorol | it's Threat-1.0 i was thinking of |
| 14:42.00 | Legorol | http://www.wowace.com/wiki/Threat-1.0 |
| 14:42.14 | Legorol | (mind you it's the same author, and Omen is the de facto frontend for Threat-1.0) |
| 14:42.24 | Gnarfoz | indeed? gonna have to maybe polish that a bit then, I too don't like "bad pr" ;) |
| 14:42.26 | Legorol | (but that's irrelevant wrt me having misquoted) |
| 14:42.28 | cladhaire | krka|work: You want to use Astrolabe by Esamynn |
| 14:42.49 | Legorol | Gnarfoz: have a look at "Origins & Features" |
| 14:42.56 | Legorol | it's essentially one big KTM bashing |
| 14:42.57 | krka|work | thanks cladhaire |
| 14:43.04 | krka|work | i'll try to make a mental note |
| 14:43.10 | krka|work | actually... i think i remember that from before |
| 14:43.15 | Wobin | true |
| 14:43.18 | Gnarfoz | err |
| 14:43.19 | Legorol | It's fine to compare yourself to the competition, nothing wrong with that |
| 14:43.24 | cladhaire | its used in TomTom, if you need an example, but Esamynn's docs are extremely good. |
| 14:43.24 | Wobin | we should remove the current references to KTM |
| 14:43.24 | Legorol | and of course everyone wants to look better |
| 14:43.39 | Wobin | replace them with notes to say that KTM pioneered the field |
| 14:43.41 | Legorol | so list the things you do better, and acknowledge the astounding work that went into KTM |
| 14:43.47 | TS|Skrom | Legorol http://www.wowace.com/wiki/Make_it_Ace%27d -- under To Ace, or not to Ace. I quote: "or even the dreaded Khaos framework" that's the kind of stuff you are talking about eh? |
| 14:43.48 | Wobin | and that Threat's goals were as stated |
| 14:43.56 | Legorol | Wobin: if you do that, you'd have my complete respect |
| 14:44.06 | Gnarfoz | dunno, it just says "is perceived as being resource-intensive", that's the only negative part I can see, but still, it could probably be worded different |
| 14:44.06 | Legorol | TS|Skrom: you quoted, not me |
| 14:44.07 | deltron | didn't RDX have an app like that first? |
| 14:44.12 | krka|work | any addon that automatically grabs npc data / mailbox locations / et.c... and places them in some sort of searchable map data? |
| 14:44.14 | Legorol | and btw, i dread Khaos too :o) |
| 14:44.16 | TS|Skrom | um yeah Legorol |
| 14:44.21 | krka|work | if not, i think i'll make it |
| 14:44.26 | Legorol | but it has no place on a PR page |
| 14:44.33 | TS|Skrom | I was quoting that page to see if that's the kind of "bashing" you were referring to |
| 14:44.53 | Legorol | yah that's one example |
| 14:44.59 | Wobin | Shirik? |
| 14:45.09 | Shirik | Yes, master? |
| 14:45.18 | Wobin | Did RDX have a threat meter before KTM? |
| 14:45.22 | cladhaire | krka|work: I have npc locations, when they're related to a quest (start or end npc). Mobmap also has a full NPC database, iirc and uses Astrolabe |
| 14:45.31 | Legorol | Wobin: i don't know as i never had access to RDX |
| 14:45.32 | krka|work | ah i see |
| 14:45.39 | Shirik | not that I am aware of, but it had been discussed for years |
| 14:45.42 | Legorol | but RDX's coverage was lot more limited than KTM |
| 14:45.45 | Wobin | kk |
| 14:45.47 | cladhaire | krka|work: Those are in LightHeaded |
| 14:45.56 | deltron | I thought RDX had a threat meter kinda thing |
| 14:46.02 | Shirik | it was never done for several reasons, and we're still considering doing it |
| 14:46.02 | Wobin | I think we could fairly confidently say that KTM was the first in the field |
| 14:46.08 | krka|work | i just want to automatically record where everyone and everything are, so i can do /at <keyword> to automatically start going there |
| 14:46.10 | Shirik | I would argue the same |
| 14:46.24 | cladhaire | krka|work: you can do that easily |
| 14:46.26 | Legorol | I think the most positive approach would be if: |
| 14:46.44 | Legorol | you acknowledged KTM, you claimed it to be a great addon, and you write down what you learned from it and how you improve on it |
| 14:47.00 | Legorol | call Threat a "2nd generation threat meter" if you like ;-) |
| 14:47.03 | Shirik | eh, as much as I don't like the whole "Ace is awesome" ideal |
| 14:47.05 | Legorol | like a new operating system |
| 14:47.11 | Shirik | and as much as KTM does its job correctly |
| 14:47.21 | Shirik | in attempting to read the code so I can get RDX to interface with it |
| 14:47.23 | deltron | KTM (really KLHThreatMeter) was great back in the day |
| 14:47.27 | Shirik | I have determined KTM's code is incredibly moronic |
| 14:47.49 | Legorol | Shirik: it may be so, but it doesn't detract from its success and its usefullness |
| 14:47.49 | Shirik | and thus I made two interfaces for it and decided never to try it again |
| 14:47.55 | Legorol | even if it's bloated, and a resource hog |
| 14:47.55 | Shirik | completely true |
| 14:47.59 | Legorol | there are facts and results |
| 14:48.09 | Shirik | that isn't to say that I don't use it, as I do |
| 14:48.15 | Shirik | and it works fine |
| 14:48.19 | Shirik | but the code is so ugly >< |
| 14:48.49 | Legorol | i personally reserve the right to make my code as ugly as i want, and let my addon be judged by its popularity :D |
| 14:48.55 | Legorol | of course there are reasons to write clean code |
| 14:49.06 | cladhaire | or you can do both, but thats actually rather off topic |
| 14:49.12 | Legorol | hehe |
| 14:49.19 | cladhaire | : |
| 14:49.20 | cladhaire | :P |
| 14:49.29 | Legorol | anyhoo i see a lot of good stuff in Ace and ace-based projects |
| 14:49.36 | krka|work | imo, almost all of the innovative addons were made by people with lots of free time, dedication and good ideas |
| 14:49.44 | krka|work | not necessarily people with good coding skills |
| 14:49.55 | Shirik | sadly |
| 14:49.55 | Legorol | and i do beleive that part of the power comes from actually building on the competition and its failures, which acts as experience and lessons learnt |
| 14:49.59 | Shirik | free time's the important one lol |
| 14:50.01 | |FF|Im2good4u | my guild still uses KTM and it seems to work nice |
| 14:50.32 | Legorol | Omen vs. KTM is actually a very interesting study in social dynamics |
| 14:50.38 | Legorol | it's the whole positive feedback thing |
| 14:50.45 | Legorol | if any single person decides to go over, they lose |
| 14:50.49 | Legorol | and you'd have to move all together |
| 14:50.56 | Legorol | is that called prisoner's dilemma or sometihng? |
| 14:51.12 | krka|work | i prefer AT vs TMT! don't think there were any arguments at all there |
| 14:51.23 | krka|work | just different approaches to the same problem |
| 14:51.36 | Legorol | what is AT and TMT? |
| 14:51.53 | Legorol | oh right nvm |
| 14:51.54 | Legorol | i'm slow |
| 14:51.55 | Wobin | Threat-1.0 edited |
| 14:51.55 | cladhaire | prisoners dilemma is something entirely different. |
| 14:52.00 | cladhaire | to clarify |
| 14:52.02 | Legorol | ok, nvm that part then |
| 14:52.05 | krka|work | i was slightly annoyed that TMT got its first version up just when i got the idea for AT... so my first version was few days later |
| 14:52.06 | Legorol | i wasn't sure on that one |
| 14:52.09 | krka|work | or was it weeks |
| 14:52.18 | krka|work | Legorol, autotravel and takemethere |
| 14:52.23 | Legorol | krka|work: but history proved that the better one wins in long run |
| 14:52.29 | Legorol | and yes i eventually figured out :o) |
| 14:52.49 | Legorol | cladhaire: well whatever it's called |
| 14:53.03 | Legorol | it's like with operating systems, the one that has the majority market share is hard to dislodge |
| 14:53.07 | krka|work | i wouldn't say takemethere was the worse one. afaik, it mostly had a few bugs with following it's path |
| 14:53.17 | Wobin | isn't the prisoners dillemma the one with the two guards? |
| 14:53.19 | krka|work | other than that, it was probably less of a resource hog and easier to use |
| 14:53.29 | cladhaire | ~wiki prisoner's dilemma |
| 14:53.32 | Legorol | sure, it had its advantages |
| 14:56.25 | Wobin | oh, that one |
| 14:56.35 | Wobin | I remember reading about it first in a Piers Anthony novel =P |
| 14:56.55 | Wobin | http://www.wowace.com/wiki/Make_it_Ace%27d edited also |
| 14:57.05 | Wobin | Any others you've noticed? |
| 14:57.46 | Wobin | (other than that one throwaway line about Khaos, the rest of the article is fairly opinion neutral) |
| 14:59.17 | haste | Is khaos a framework? I've always thought it was a option gui or something |
| 14:59.34 | haste | or wait... I should go to bed |
| 14:59.36 | cladhaire | its an addon |
| 14:59.45 | cladhaire | and an options gui :P |
| 14:59.50 | cladhaire | just more FUD |
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| 15:00.16 | Wobin | Better to remove the reference altogether then? |
| 15:00.32 | cladhaire | it shouldn't be there to begin with |
| 15:00.34 | cladhaire | has no place. |
| 15:00.37 | Wobin | I was never entirely clear to what it was =) |
| 15:00.40 | Wobin | kk, on it. |
| 15:01.33 | Wobin | fixed. |
| 15:02.12 | Valaron|Work | Why do people think they need to reiterate what was already said in Reply Post 1? |
| 15:02.53 | Wobin | metooing? |
| 15:03.06 | Valaron|Work | It's worse than "/signed" |
| 15:03.12 | Valaron|Work | Worst |
| 15:03.16 | Shirik | /signed |
| 15:05.40 | cladhaire | i hate you kenny |
| 15:06.09 | Valaron|Work | So much hate. |
| 15:06.34 | krka|work | /signed |
| 15:06.59 | Shirik | /signed |
| 15:07.19 | krka|work | /sighed |
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| 15:07.50 | cladhaire | So anyone want to discuss a fun design problem? |
| 15:08.04 | cog|work | sure |
| 15:08.08 | cladhaire | that has a really obvious solution that i'd rather not use =) |
| 15:08.14 | Shirik | seterrorhandler(function() end) solves all your problems |
| 15:08.32 | cladhaire | using only lua and luasockets, I want to have an irc bot that i can reload the processing code, as well as the sandbox code on the fly without having to connect or disconnect. |
| 15:08.36 | cladhaire | i have some ideas |
| 15:08.39 | cog|work | or SetCVar("showErrors", 0) :P |
| 15:09.03 | Shirik | except that only applies to the default error handler |
| 15:09.08 | Shirik | and also disables message() |
| 15:09.15 | cog|work | hrm |
| 15:09.25 | Shirik | cladhaire: The processing code is lua? |
| 15:09.33 | cladhaire | yes |
| 15:09.34 | cladhaire | all lua |
| 15:09.51 | cladhaire | and the bot works just fine |
| 15:10.10 | cladhaire | just dont like spamming channels with connect/disconnect when i have to alter the code |
| 15:10.16 | cladhaire | i haev a few ideas, but i'm soliciting more :P |
| 15:10.35 | Shirik | well assuming you split the code a bit |
| 15:10.52 | Shirik | if you keep your sockets in one file, you can just reload the others |
| 15:10.58 | Shirik | can't you? |
| 15:11.10 | cog|work | dofile imo |
| 15:12.26 | cog|work | keep the processing code and the sandbox code in separate files. If you establish a robust interface, then all you should have to do is recreate the functions called by the control code. |
| 15:12.35 | cladhaire | yeah |
| 15:12.43 | cladhaire | thats what i'm already doing ont he sandbox side of things |
| 15:12.44 | cog|work | is that the obvious solution you'd rather not use? |
| 15:13.53 | cladhaire | no, its just suboptimal |
| 15:14.00 | cladhaire | the one i dont want to use is os.execute |
| 15:14.02 | cladhaire | cause its ugly :P |
| 15:14.05 | cladhaire | but works quite well |
| 15:15.15 | cladhaire | limited perms |
| 15:15.20 | cladhaire | woudl have hosed my user directory |
| 15:15.31 | krka|work | really? |
| 15:15.35 | Shirik | glad I decided to put echo in front of it >< I thought you were smarter than that |
| 15:15.37 | cladhaire | when i had it not working, yeah =) |
| 15:15.39 | krka|work | wouldn't it have stopped immediately? |
| 15:15.59 | Shirik | only time I ever used that command is when I was foolishly on root so I dunno what it would do from a user account |
| 15:16.08 | cladhaire | os x segregates pretty well |
| 15:16.17 | Shirik | fyi, accidentally putting a space between a directory name and / |
| 15:16.19 | Shirik | bad idea |
| 15:16.59 | Josh_Borke | lol |
| 15:17.00 | Josh_Borke | yes |
| 15:17.39 | Shirik | I did something along the lines of "rm -r ./sts /" |
| 15:17.39 | Shirik | it didn't end very well :P |
| 15:17.43 | cladhaire | heh |
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| 15:18.02 | krka|work | i try to never be root unless i really really have to |
| 15:18.12 | Shirik | same; I forget why I was |
| 15:18.14 | Shirik | this was years ago |
| 15:18.18 | krka|work | windows: reboot - linux: be root |
| 15:19.01 | Josh_Borke | i stay root all the time |
| 15:19.03 | Josh_Borke | i log in as root |
| 15:19.10 | Valaron|Work | Dangerous. |
| 15:19.42 | Josh_Borke | i rm -rf /etc for fun |
| 15:20.34 | Josh_Borke | besides, do you know how big of a pain in the ass it is to install rpms as a user? |
| 15:20.42 | Josh_Borke | sorry, no pron at work |
| 15:20.46 | cladhaire | lrn2compile |
| 15:21.32 | Josh_Borke | psh, compiling is just as big a PITA on rpm systems |
| 15:21.37 | Valaron|Work | find / -name '*.jpg' -exec echo "you got porno" |
| 15:21.59 | haste | the real people save their originals in png to prevent quality loss! |
| 15:22.11 | Shirik | Josh_Borke: what distro? |
| 15:22.22 | Josh_Borke | RHEL5 |
| 15:22.23 | Valaron|Work | Must be Fedora Core! |
| 15:22.27 | Shirik | fun |
| 15:22.46 | Josh_Borke | we recently set up our own koji build system (used by fedora people for building RPMS) |
| 15:22.52 | Josh_Borke | it should be, um, interesting |
| 15:23.02 | Valaron|Work | I use Slackware |
| 15:23.02 | Josh_Borke | and tbh, i don't log in as root :-P |
| 15:23.39 | Valaron|Work | With my own custom kernel. |
| 15:25.24 | Josh_Borke | compiling kernels is fun, isn't it? |
| 15:25.33 | Valaron|Work | I enjoy it. |
| 15:25.48 | Valaron|Work | Recently compiled 2.6.21.5 |
| 15:26.15 | krka|work | that kernel is so lame. i like 2.2.12-3 |
| 15:26.45 | deltron | Linux ghidora 2.6.20-16-386 #2 Thu Jun 7 20:16:13 UTC 2007 i686 GNU/Linux |
| 15:28.43 | Valaron|Work | That's recent. |
| 15:33.19 | Valaron|Work | What Wii game should I get if I'm into Adventure and/or RPGs? |
| 15:33.45 | Valaron|Work | WoW for Wii! |
| 15:35.46 | cog|work | I heard super paper mario is good... (we bought it but haven't started playing yet) |
| 15:35.52 | cog|work | oh and zelda |
| 15:36.02 | Valaron|Work | Zelda I already beat. |
| 15:36.06 | cog|work | heh |
| 15:36.17 | Valaron|Work | 4 weeks after it came out. |
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| 15:37.30 | Valaron|Work | I had the original Super Paper Mario for GC, but got stuck and never played again. |
| 15:37.53 | Valaron|Work | Holding out for SMB Galaxy, probably. |
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| 15:39.38 | Valaron|Work | Coffee time. |
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| 15:57.35 | Canislupus|WOW | oh wonderful gods of wow modding, i have a question! |
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| 15:59.51 | Canislupus|WOW | I have a new guild up and running, and we are setting up the website. I am dieing to find a good raid scheduler that will interface with our website. I know no better source of knowledge than this group. Any suggestions? |
| 16:01.16 | cog|work | The thing is, it's non-trivial to make a good guild calendar addon in-game, and it's non-trivial to make a good guild calender out of game. Since addons can't do any realtime communication with the outside world, there's really not much of a benefit to trying to synchronize the two. |
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| 16:02.11 | cog|work | In the time it would take to run a synchronization program, you might as well just go to the website and do your work yourself. |
| 16:02.19 | Canislupus|WOW | yes, the only thing i have ever seen that does anything similar seems to sync when you log off i believe |
| 16:02.55 | cog|work | If people in your guild are complaining, tell them to run in windowed mode + maximized :P |
| 16:02.55 | Canislupus|WOW | and that was a dkp system, iirc |
| 16:03.08 | Canislupus|WOW | 8-) yes i do that myself |
| 16:03.16 | deltron | dkp :( |
| 16:03.49 | Canislupus|WOW | which i am hearing is now quite antiquated, btw |
| 16:04.18 | cog|work | yeah... not as much of an issue anymore without 40-man raids |
| 16:04.28 | Canislupus|WOW | i just want the guild to use it efficiently. our old guild had terrible organization |
| 16:04.56 | Canislupus|WOW | i am hearing even death and taxes is free rolling in black temple |
| 16:06.45 | Canislupus|WOW | phpRaider is the closest i have found to what i am seeking. I need to research it a lot more, though |
| 16:07.03 | cog|work | I'd recommend just using one or the other. As long as you have a few people online at all times, GroupCalendar works quite well imo |
| 16:07.19 | cog|work | But the website is more convenient usually since people can access it from anywhere |
| 16:07.27 | Canislupus|WOW | yep |
| 16:07.48 | Canislupus|WOW | that seems to be the concensus of my guild as well |
| 16:08.17 | cog|work | Maybe when they implement guild housing they'll have some sort of calendaring feature :) |
| 16:08.35 | Canislupus|WOW | old guild used GEM. i found it less than user friendly |
| 16:09.00 | cog|work | we used GEM for a while and switched to GroupCalendar... it was a HUGE improvement |
| 16:09.22 | Canislupus|WOW | interesting. thanks for your input! |
| 16:09.29 | cog|work | synchronization takes a bit longer than GEM, but GEM really bogs down performance as people log in |
| 16:09.51 | cog|work | (though that may have changed since we used it last) |
| 16:10.26 | Canislupus|WOW | well i still suspect one of my mods was flooding sync channel and d/cing me (if thats even possible anymore) |
| 16:10.47 | Canislupus|WOW | and if it was GEM, i am not surprised |
| 16:11.45 | cog|work | Yeah... my wife was getting d/c'ed a lot by GEM |
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| 16:20.20 | sag_ich_nicht | [18:11] <cog|work> Yeah... my wife was getting d/c'ed a lot by GEM <--that should only happen with old GEM versions |
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| 16:20.59 | cog|work | [09:11] <cog|work> (though that may have changed since we used it last) |
| 16:21.04 | cog|work | ;) |
| 16:21.17 | Canislupus|WOW | yes i think most ppl were using an older version, including myself |
| 16:21.29 | Canislupus|WOW | did they ever get the gui calendar working? |
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| 16:21.44 | sag_ich_nicht | no the author is working in a complete rewrite of GEM |
| 16:21.46 | sag_ich_nicht | also |
| 16:21.51 | sag_ich_nicht | Shirik |
| 16:21.58 | Canislupus|WOW | nice! |
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| 16:22.14 | sag_ich_nicht | didn't you want to help me figure out how to make GEM not screw up TasteTheNaimbow? D: |
| 16:23.23 | sag_ich_nicht | ~lart Shirik |
| 16:23.23 | purl | takes Shirik to the vet for a "special" visit |
| 16:23.46 | TS|Skrom | http://wnd.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=17910 <-- taxpayer money hard at work |
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| 16:25.29 | Canislupus|WOW | amazing what constiutes news anymore |
| 16:25.44 | deltron | TS|Skrom: reads like FUD to me :P |
| 16:25.57 | TS|Skrom | FUD? |
| 16:26.15 | deltron | fear, uncertainty, doubt |
| 16:26.34 | TS|Skrom | not sure I follow |
| 16:26.58 | deltron | also, I take 'news' from far-right and far-left with a grain of salt |
| 16:27.10 | deltron | TS|Skrom: it's bull in other words |
| 16:27.27 | TS|Skrom | right, because this article offered opinions or speculation |
| 16:27.34 | deltron | heh |
| 16:27.39 | TS|Skrom | the census worker was an ass, is quoted as saying "the constitution is stupid" |
| 16:27.52 | TS|Skrom | and points out that there are no reprisals available to the census bureau |
| 16:28.03 | TS|Skrom | the guy should be fired, but there's no method for doing so |
| 16:28.07 | TS|Skrom | yaaay |
| 16:28.10 | deltron | if he says it's stupid, so what? |
| 16:28.16 | deltron | at least he recognizes it exists |
| 16:28.24 | TS|Skrom | um... he took an oath to uphold the constitution when he took the job |
| 16:28.31 | TS|Skrom | calling it stupid doesn't equate |
| 16:29.17 | Canislupus|WOW | i dont exactly think they hire the best and brightest to be census takers =) |
| 16:29.46 | Canislupus|WOW | "rural mail delivery workers" comes to mind |
| 16:29.49 | TS|Skrom | yes, but they should at least have a mechanism available to weed out the bad apples |
| 16:30.19 | deltron | $10 says the census worker doesn't vote also |
| 16:30.55 | TS|Skrom | safe bet, but what does that have to do with the article? |
| 16:31.24 | TS|Skrom | I mean you claim it's FUD, and bull but I still don't see where you get that idea from. |
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| 16:33.34 | Canislupus|WOW | dammit..... i just learned Teza isn't a girl. And certainly not the one in the Avatar pic |
| 16:33.52 | Canislupus|WOW | -/wrist |
| 16:34.39 | Canislupus|WOW | i think i was less devastated learning that Santa wasn't real |
| 16:35.32 | Valaron|Work | Everyone on the Internet is a dog. |
| 16:35.37 | Valaron|Work | rawf |
| 16:36.13 | Canislupus|WOW | yeah... so much for my plans of stalking her... |
| 16:36.56 | Canislupus|WOW | http://boards.worldofraids.com/images/avatars/1679091c5a880faf6fb5e6087eb1b2dc1179602379.jpg |
| 16:37.27 | Valaron|Work | haha |
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| 16:38.01 | Canislupus|WOW | 27 year old male from France :( |
| 16:40.13 | Gnarfoz | since when has anyone ever used a rl pic of themselves as their userpic :< |
| 16:41.02 | Canislupus|WOW | yeah.. glad i didnt send that email asking her to marry me |
| 16:41.28 | nevcairiel | lol |
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| 17:03.13 | Kaydeethree | har at the linked thread |
| 17:03.30 | Kaydeethree | 867-5309 |
| 17:08.49 | Valaron|Work | Is that a phone number? |
| 17:12.13 | Gryphen | it's a song |
| 17:14.01 | Valaron|Work | Oh yeah. |
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| 17:21.48 | Kaydeethree | damn it, rvb fileserver. stop getting hammered so I can leech the ep |
| 17:22.47 | TS|Skrom | on CHAT_MSG_ADDON does "sender" come across as a unitid or a name? |
| 17:22.54 | foxlit | name |
| 17:23.05 | foxlit | damn you, lexical scoping. |
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| 17:23.12 | TS|Skrom | guess I shoulda guessed that since whisper is a valid send type |
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| 18:02.46 | Thunder_Child | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CZrr7AZ9nCY |
| 18:05.36 | cog|work | does it need sound to get the joke? |
| 18:06.04 | TS|Skrom | must |
| 18:06.42 | cog|work | 'cause that actually looks pretty neat |
| 18:06.56 | cog|work | though I highly doubt they'd be able to pull it off :P |
| 18:10.27 | Thunder_Child | yea, sound would be good |
| 18:10.47 | Valaron|Work | Your table would get the BSOD once a day. |
| 18:11.07 | Thunder_Child | ah...having dinner by the nice woarm blue glow of a BSOD |
| 18:11.11 | Thunder_Child | warm* |
| 18:12.07 | cog|work | I can imagine BSOD-related drinking games |
| 18:16.04 | Wobin | Need to reboot? Take a shot |
| 18:16.10 | Wobin | Windows slows down? Take a shot |
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| 18:16.57 | Wobin | Something crashes unexpectedly? Take a shot |
| 18:16.57 | foxlit | I'd be sober :( |
| 18:16.57 | Wobin | Paid too much for the operating system? Drink half the bottle. |
| 18:17.14 | foxlit | Still sober :( |
| 18:17.54 | Wobin | hm |
| 18:18.03 | Wobin | well you've obviously not chosen Ms SURFACE |
| 18:21.52 | Valaron|Work | MS Surface with Vista Technology! |
| 18:21.57 | Valaron|Work | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:23.34 | Wobin | One thing they forgot about the whole concept of Surface |
| 18:23.43 | Wobin | It looks cool in the movies, but noone would ever use it |
| 18:24.19 | Valaron|Work | Install Pacman onto Surface. Hook up a joystick on two opposite edges. |
| 18:24.27 | Wobin | That might be worthwhile |
| 18:24.30 | cog|work | pong imo |
| 18:24.38 | Wobin | tron |
| 18:24.52 | cog|work | zomgminesweeper |
| 18:24.57 | deltron | Wobin: porn! |
| 18:25.24 | deltron | I remember watching a video of some old prototype and some guy was playing warcraft 3 on a multi-touch table like that |
| 18:25.25 | Wobin | deltron: sort of a coffeetable book? =P |
| 18:25.36 | deltron | lol |
| 18:25.57 | cog|work | Sitting around with friends, "And this is when she...." |
| 18:26.39 | Wobin | Actually, a tabletop rts would work |
| 18:26.50 | cog|work | Does this come through as ellipsis for everyone? … |
| 18:26.56 | Wobin | cog|work: yes |
| 18:27.05 | Wobin | although it's a bit squashed |
| 18:27.17 | cog|work | or more to the point, does it NOT look like ellipsis to anyone ;) |
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| 18:28.34 | Skalden | Greetings, can anyone spare a min to help me with a macro? |
| 18:28.46 | Valaron|Work | Ask your question. |
| 18:29.18 | TS|Skrom | nope |
| 18:29.26 | TS|Skrom | oops |
| 18:29.28 | Skalden | I'm trying to get something similar to this /cast [target=mouseover,exists] SPELL; [target=target,exists] SPELL |
| 18:29.29 | TS|Skrom | that nope was to cog|work |
| 18:29.40 | cog|work | nope it does look like an ellipsis? |
| 18:29.40 | Skalden | but instead of spell, to have PetActionButton4 |
| 18:29.50 | Valaron|Work | use /click |
| 18:29.51 | Kaydeethree | change /cast to /click |
| 18:29.55 | Kaydeethree | and target=target is redundant |
| 18:30.05 | Valaron|Work | Yep |
| 18:30.08 | Skalden | I tried changing to /click, but it doesn't work. |
| 18:30.21 | Kaydeethree | do you use a hotbar mod? |
| 18:30.31 | Skalden | Nope. |
| 18:30.35 | cog|work | you have to use /click to use PetActionButton4 |
| 18:31.04 | Valaron|Work | Is that Growl? |
| 18:31.26 | cog|work | but /click, afaik, won't pay attention to the [target=] clause |
| 18:31.31 | Valaron|Work | I don't pay attention to my pet :P |
| 18:31.52 | Skalden | It's not Growl. Currently, I'm trying with Felhunter out and spell lock. |
| 18:32.03 | Valaron|Work | Ah.. 'lock |
| 18:32.14 | Valaron|Work | nebber played one |
| 18:32.17 | cog|work | Why do you need to use the button instead of the spell? |
| 18:32.45 | Skalden | Because I have 4 pets. It would be a lot of macros to make for every pet. |
| 18:32.56 | cog|work | that's what the [pet] condition's for :P |
| 18:33.30 | Skalden | Yes, but I can't figure how to work it in my macro. |
| 18:33.45 | Valaron|Work | Cog's right. /cast [pet:Felhunter] Felhunter's spell; [pet:Succubus] Succubus' spell etc |
| 18:34.22 | Skalden | Oh, I see. |
| 18:34.27 | Skalden | Great, thanks for help. |
| 18:34.38 | cog|work | /cast [pet:Felhunter, target=mouseover, exists] [pet:Felhunter] Felhunter Spell; [pet:Succubus, target=mouseover, exists] [pet:Succubus] Succubus spell |
| 18:36.00 | zenzelezz | nagas with lasers pew pew |
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| 18:38.09 | Valaron|Work | What should I get for lunch? I'm broke. |
| 18:38.29 | Wobin | The flesh of fallen angels? |
| 18:38.31 | TS|Skrom | cog|work :P |
| 18:38.34 | cog|work | any stores with fruit stands outside? |
| 18:38.36 | cog|work | :P |
| 18:39.00 | Valaron|Work | har |
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| 18:40.24 | Valaron|Work | I'll go to the cafeteria to see if there's any soup. |
| 18:40.33 | Valaron|Work | I'm saving money for this weekend. |
| 18:40.43 | Valaron|Work | Going to Napa. |
| 18:41.00 | Wobin | Our uni cafeteria had a good deal |
| 18:41.08 | Wobin | Rice with sauce. 20c |
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| 18:41.15 | cog|work | Valaron|Work: say hi to my uncle ;) |
| 18:41.18 | Wobin | Cheapest meal ever |
| 18:41.22 | TS|Skrom | ooo cog I started drama with a gnome |
| 18:41.27 | TS|Skrom | does that make me a bad person? |
| 18:41.42 | TS|Skrom | like yelling at a mentally handicapped person? |
| 18:41.47 | TS|Skrom | er... oops no offense |
| 18:42.32 | cog|work | "oops no offense" would've followed if you s/mentally handicapped person/retard/ |
| 18:42.46 | TS|Skrom | hah |
| 18:43.08 | TS|Skrom | No I meant no offense because I was comparing gnomes to erm... retards ;-) |
| 18:43.28 | TS|Skrom | present company excluded of course |
| 18:44.27 | cog|work | +15 engineering.... 'nuff said |
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| 18:45.01 | Wobin | yeah, but that doesn't make tauren hippies =P |
| 18:45.32 | TS|Skrom | no... THAT doesn't... |
| 18:45.36 | TS|Skrom | but still, c'mon... |
| 18:50.06 | TS|Skrom | I know it's tame drama but man it's the kind of humor I need today |
| 18:50.21 | TS|Skrom | to be told /dismissed just made me laugh out loud. Good thing i wasn't drinking milk! |
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| 18:58.54 | Valaron|Work | Got me a BLT |
| 19:10.20 | cog|work | hehe... I have both Evil Twin and Soul Split: Evil debuffs >< |
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| 19:19.42 | Fin | one confused character |
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| 19:24.13 | TS|Skrom | okay... according to the wiki, UnitInParty("player") always returns true even if not in a party |
| 19:24.22 | TS|Skrom | so does that mean that GetNumPartyMembers can never be 0? |
| 19:24.35 | TS|Skrom | or is that one working as intended |
| 19:26.08 | Antiarc|Work | GetNumPartyMembers() can be z |
| 19:26.09 | Antiarc|Work | zero |
| 19:26.16 | TS|Skrom | good XD |
| 19:26.21 | Antiarc|Work | Think of it as GetNumAdditionalPartyMembers() |
| 19:26.47 | cog|work | and think of it as you're always a member of your own party even when you're alone |
| 19:27.08 | TS|Skrom | that's just odd though |
| 19:27.18 | TS|Skrom | is it a bug or changed for some reason? |
| 19:27.40 | cog|work | It's how you determine, e.g., whether you can cast PW:S on someone |
| 19:27.58 | cog|work | (though that includes raids) |
| 19:28.02 | cog|work | (but meh) |
| 19:28.02 | TS|Skrom | interesting |
| 19:28.29 | Shirik | Antiarc|Work: Er |
| 19:28.33 | TS|Skrom | wiki seems to indicate that's a recent observation, has it been like that for quite some time then? |
| 19:28.42 | Shirik | TS|Skrom: yeh |
| 19:28.44 | Shirik | it's always been that way |
| 19:28.59 | Shirik | UnitInParty"player" is always true, and GetNumPartyMembers() returns number of party members minus yourself |
| 19:29.13 | TS|Skrom | ah okay, guess I always used if (GetNumPartyMembers() > 0) before |
| 19:29.33 | Shirik | GetNumRaidMembers() is 0 if not in a raid |
| 19:29.37 | TS|Skrom | I haven't had a reason to check that since I was making my heal helper XD |
| 19:29.39 | Shirik | otherwise it returns number of raid members, including yourself |
| 19:29.43 | Shirik | iirc |
| 19:29.46 | Shirik | but you should test that |
| 19:29.57 | TS|Skrom | who was that masked man? |
| 19:33.02 | chuckg | What's the little lua thingy again? |
| 19:33.12 | Valaron|Work | Thingy? |
| 19:33.13 | chuckg | >> print("test") |
| 19:33.13 | TS|Skrom | what LUA thingy |
| 19:33.17 | chuckg | To test shit in here? :) |
| 19:33.18 | TS|Skrom | *gasp* |
| 19:33.28 | TS|Skrom | no chastisement from krka? |
| 19:33.36 | Cide | it's >>> |
| 19:34.00 | Shirik|AFK | TS|Skrom: LUA is not an acronym |
| 19:34.05 | Shirik|AFK | well, LUA is, Lua isn't |
| 19:34.07 | TS|Skrom | wahoo |
| 19:34.08 | Shirik|AFK | the first, however, doesn't exist |
| 19:34.22 | TS|Skrom | Look under armor |
| 19:34.42 | TS|Skrom | I use LUA every night when I play... bow chica wow wow |
| 19:35.06 | TS|Skrom | :-( |
| 19:35.31 | cog|work | Language Underneath Addons |
| 19:38.56 | foxlit | tagCloseID = {} |
| 19:38.57 | foxlit | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:38.57 | foxlit | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:38.57 | foxlit | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:39.03 | foxlit | "nil vs 1" |
| 19:39.09 | foxlit | why? |
| 19:41.16 | mikma | what's up with the Scorpid's as hunterpets now? |
| 19:41.19 | mikma | everyone has one |
| 19:41.59 | Valaron|Work | Not me. |
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| 19:43.30 | TS|Skrom | mikma does http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WrXQX8J6lP4&mode=related&search= == you? |
| 19:43.54 | mikma | TS|Skrom: aww, no :( |
| 19:45.49 | TS|Skrom | wuwu only 1:15 left today /doze |
| 19:52.27 | AnduinLothar | Muah ha ha! http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info7317-Ace2Khaos.html |
| 19:54.14 | TS|Skrom | AnduinLothar XD |
| 19:55.16 | GnancyWK | hmm thats pretty neat looking AnduinLothar |
| 19:58.44 | foxlit | zomg Ace == Cosmos, spread the word! |
| 19:58.56 | Kody- | done |
| 20:00.15 | pastamancer | haha |
| 20:00.55 | GnancyWK | so AnduinLothar when are you going to Cosmos FuBar (notice my use of Cosmos as a verb) :P |
| 20:01.57 | Mr_Rabies2 | i'm so installing that AL |
| 20:02.21 | Mr_Rabies2 | i love khaos |
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| 20:10.46 | Mr_Rabies2 | other than the fact that i get a GIANT novel of yellow error messages when starting up Ace2Khaos, it seems to work pretty well :P |
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| 20:11.50 | pastamancer | cladhaire: I was just looking at the perfectraid source, and I'm a little confused by Aggro.OnUpdate in PerfectRaid_Aggro.lua |
| 20:12.33 | pastamancer | cladhaire: in the current trunk it looks like you have the same for loop nested twice |
| 20:37.58 | Kaelten | AnduinLothar: want to up load it to the acesvn :P |
| 20:40.36 | Tem | damnit! |
| 20:40.46 | Tem | I got Shartuul to 10% |
| 20:40.58 | Tem | but I shifted to frost form when I needed shadow to heal again |
| 20:41.02 | Tem | so died |
| 20:43.45 | Valaron|Work | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:46.28 | Tem | oh LOL |
| 20:46.36 | Tem | I just saw a neat way to bug the event |
| 20:47.06 | Tem | if someone fails during the doomguard fight, you can keep the doomguard in combat |
| 20:47.20 | Tem | so if someone else starts the event, the doomguard doesn't reset |
| 20:47.24 | Tem | then they can fight him early |
| 20:47.32 | Tem | but he won't die unless the sheild is gone |
| 20:47.38 | Tem | so it basically screws the next person |
| 20:56.07 | cog|work | What's a good site for looking up enchantments? Thottbot & WoWHead just have them mixed in with spells and there doesn't seem to be any way to search by attribute |
| 20:58.07 | Josh_Borke | cog|work: wowhead works for me |
| 20:58.10 | Josh_Borke | http://www.wowhead.com/?spells=11.333&filter=na=defense+rating;ex=on |
| 20:58.12 | Josh_Borke | for example |
| 20:58.41 | Thunder_Child | enchantmants like http://www.wowhead.com/?items=9.8 ? |
| 20:58.42 | cog|work | weird... i searched for stamina and it gave me no results :| |
| 20:59.13 | Josh_Borke | like boar's speed? |
| 20:59.41 | Tem | cog|work, wowhead > * |
| 21:00.11 | cog|work | oh... when I clicked the filter button it changed it to "items crafted by enchanting" for some reason |
| 21:00.40 | Tem | http://www.wowhead.com/?spells=11.333 |
| 21:01.03 | cog|work | The "Filter Items" link threw me off |
| 21:01.07 | Tem | ah |
| 21:01.09 | cog|work | I needed to use "Create a filter" |
| 21:01.12 | mikma | is there any blockers out there that disable the *** boss spam *** messages |
| 21:01.24 | Tem | bossblock imo |
| 21:01.45 | mikma | where is it? |
| 21:02.19 | Tem | hell if I know |
| 21:02.25 | Tem | use the search, luke |
| 21:02.26 | mikma | :D |
| 21:02.35 | mikma | the search is not string |
| 21:02.38 | mikma | strong* :) |
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| 22:04.35 | Fin | ~pgl |
| 22:04.39 | Fin | odd |
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| 22:23.43 | DT_ | If a frame with no name has a child that uses $parent in its name, the child won't have a name either, right? |
| 22:24.31 | foxlit | it may just default to blank? |
| 22:25.01 | DT_ | Hmm |
| 22:25.02 | zenzelezz | if the unnamed frame has a parent, I think the child's $parent jumps up the higher frame... not quite sure |
| 22:25.14 | ckknight | I thought it would also be anonymous |
| 22:29.18 | Kirkburn | What kind of parent forgets to name their child anyway? |
| 22:29.36 | zenzelezz | who says they forgot? |
| 22:30.12 | cog|work | the parent that keeps their children in specific boxes and never needs to refer to them by name... |
| 22:30.43 | Kirkburn | I bet those children would frame their parents in later life |
| 22:31.30 | Kirkburn | "They put my table in the garbage collection!" |
| 22:32.18 | Kirkburn | Whereas we all know the table was empty and the children used string instead anyway |
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| 22:38.01 | Mr_Rabies2 | i went through tanaris on a frame with no name |
| 22:38.05 | Mr_Rabies2 | ugh, that's awful |
| 22:38.30 | Fin | "The Frame With No Name", sounds like a horror movie or something |
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| 22:44.14 | Mr_Rabies2 | western imo |
| 22:59.25 | Shirik | didn't think that would work |
| 23:02.08 | Kirkburn|afk | Shirik, what did you do? |
| 23:02.22 | Shirik | 182:592:22 12[notice: #wowi-lounge12] hrm |
| 23:02.24 | Shirik | ? |
| 23:02.25 | Kirkburn|afk | Also, how did you do it |
| 23:02.25 | Shirik | or did you not get it ? |
| 23:02.36 | zenzelezz | I got it |
| 23:02.45 | zenzelezz | /notice #wowi-lounge blah blah |
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| 23:02.56 | zenzelezz | try /notice @#wowi-lounge voice plz |
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| 23:03.17 | Kirkburn|afk | Well that is much fun! |
| 23:03.29 | Shirik | Shirik!n=nospam@ip68-100-86-112.dc.dc.cox.net NOTICE #wowi-lounge :wtb +! |
| 23:03.30 | Shirik | it works |
| 23:03.32 | Shirik | =) |
| 23:03.57 | Kirkburn|afk | Too many Shirik's spoils the broth |
| 23:04.08 | Lopeppeppy | The broth is confusing with just one! |
| 23:04.21 | zenzelezz | I believe you can notice @# or +# specifically |
| 23:04.37 | Shirik | you can also privmsg anyone with a specific hostmask |
| 23:04.42 | Shirik | or something like *.com |
| 23:04.48 | Shirik | but only ircops :P |
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| 23:14.12 | AnduinLothar | Mr_Rabies2: got a pastebin of those errors? |
| 23:18.52 | Mr_Rabies2 | uhh, not atm |
| 23:19.02 | Mr_Rabies2 | It was pertaining to Bartender's Paging options i think |
| 23:19.22 | Mr_Rabies2 | lemme finish trying to solo scholo |
| 23:20.32 | Mr_Rabies2 | i just got dropped trying to get into the viewing room |
| 23:20.48 | AnduinLothar | k. I haven't tested with Bartender myself |
| 23:21.08 | Mr_Rabies2 | afaik it was just bartender, but produced a HUGE error thing |
| 23:21.27 | AnduinLothar | it prints full stack trace from any xpcall that errors |
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| 23:21.48 | AnduinLothar | i might make that just with an option in a bit |
| 23:21.53 | AnduinLothar | cause it is quite spammy |
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| 23:24.07 | Mr_Rabies2 | basically just said like "can't find option for Bear Form in Bartenderblahblahblah *HUGE STACK TRACE*" Disabling option bear form |
| 23:24.09 | Mr_Rabies2 | or something like that |
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| 23:25.15 | Mr_Rabies2 | ugh |
| 23:25.19 | Mr_Rabies2 | i've died twice in scholo so far |
| 23:25.36 | Mr_Rabies2 | warlocks could solo it at 60 :[ |
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| 23:30.47 | Corrodias | loading WoW! |
| 23:33.46 | Corrodias | tonight, we will take down the prince for the first time. no question. |
| 23:35.23 | zenzelezz | :-) |
| 23:35.42 | AnduinLothar | the prince fight sucks balls |
| 23:35.47 | AnduinLothar | it's total luck |
| 23:36.02 | zenzelezz | seconded |
| 23:36.24 | AnduinLothar | once you have a good enough tank and 3 good healers it's just a matter of trying and dying till you get favorable elemental positions |
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| 23:50.04 | Corrodias | hmm, we're short people |
| 23:50.23 | Corrodias | short one person for group 1, our warlock |
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| 23:52.37 | cladhaire | pastamancer: I do have the same for loop nested twice |
| 23:53.10 | cladhaire | pastamancer: I check the current unit against every hostile target in the raid |
| 23:53.20 | cladhaire | pastamancer: which is horribly inefficient but fun and accurate :P |
| 23:53.26 | Josh_Borke | 'fun'? o.O |
| 23:54.40 | cladhaire | pastamancer: its really stupid the way it is right now, heh =) |
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