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| 00:02.55 | Gnarfoz | Thrae: so, it breaks because, well, because you can't do setpoint on it, if it's owned by ANCHOR_CURSOR? |
| 00:03.54 | Gnarfoz | just trying to understand it all ^^ |
| 00:04.24 | Thrae | Gnarfoz: The default for mouseover units is already ANCHOR_CURSOR, so giving it ANCHOR_CURSOR makes it try a :SetPoint with ANCHOR_NONE, which fails of course. |
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| 00:04.57 | Gnarfoz | a-ha! |
| 00:05.48 | Thrae | Gnarfoz: I was hoping to have the Database and Slash commands finished by the end of today...ugh |
| 00:05.53 | Gnarfoz | hehe |
| 00:06.03 | Gnarfoz | so, everything left at nil, except MCursorAnchor (set to "RIGHT") should work and position the tooltip at the right side of the cursor? |
| 00:06.42 | Gnarfoz | (or left, possibly) |
| 00:06.42 | Thrae | Gnarfoz: Yes, in the middle of the right side, with mouse anchoring. |
| 00:07.46 | Gnarfoz | then, with of course the possibility I fucked something up, again -.-, http://ace.pastey.net/65748 |
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| 00:21.29 | Gnarfoz | FAnchor = "CURSOR", MAnchor = nil -- works, both kinds of tooltips are centered above the cursor. from there on, setting MCursorAnchor and FCursorAnchor to "TOP" makes both kinds be anchored to "BOTTOMRIGHT" of the UI? (i.e., the default position frame tooltips have, if FAnchor = nil) |
| 00:21.36 | Gnarfoz | Thrae: ---^ |
| 00:21.47 | Gnarfoz | weird |
| 00:22.04 | Gnarfoz | no errors, though |
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| 00:27.10 | zenzelezz | was it red, was it blue? |
| 00:28.22 | bleeter | Mike-N-Go: the barmaid in the World's End Tavern in Shattrath has a couple of new recipes since last patch |
| 00:28.32 | Mike-N-Go | bleeter: Thanks. |
| 00:28.44 | zenzelezz | I already said that several times |
| 00:29.26 | zenzelezz | "Lower City, like patch notes said" |
| 00:30.02 | bleeter | sorry, did someone else say something? ;) (tbh, you're aqua coloured, like half the other posts recently in here, no idea what's up with my irssi colours they seem bust) |
| 00:30.17 | zenzelezz | colors on IRC? Ew |
| 00:30.21 | bleeter | just wish it'd stop setting users to the same colour as messages |
| 00:30.31 | zenzelezz | anyway I was more poking Mike than you about it though :-p |
| 00:30.33 | bleeter | only for nicks |
| 00:31.03 | Mike-N-Go | zenzelezz: OK. |
| 00:32.05 | zenzelezz | gah, just had a 1-minute lag spike apparently... by the time it stopped all I see it MSBT scrolling for all it's worth and then "6 Minutes until release" |
| 00:32.26 | Kaydeethree | hate that |
| 00:32.49 | zenzelezz | at least it was on my all-green hunter, not my epic warrior |
| 00:41.09 | Wobwork | bleeter: I has a bucket! |
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| 00:42.16 | Wobwork | ps even wowhead's talent calculator used to cause my laptop to have 4fps |
| 00:42.51 | AnduinLothar | curse my hybridity. i have 30 lvl 70 epics and not one of my gear sets is all epic.. |
| 00:44.37 | Gnarfoz | curse my lack of a raid, no 70 epics at all :< |
| 00:44.55 | foxlit | flash is evil, tbh |
| 00:45.09 | foxlit | and IE has an uncunny ability to reduce wow fps |
| 00:48.19 | AnduinLothar | why does opennign my mail box reduce my fps to 5? |
| 00:58.53 | foxlit | http://uncyclopedia.org/wiki/Fable |
| 00:59.06 | foxlit | "Imagine a world with chickens. Lots of chickens. Chickens that need killing. " |
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| 01:06.17 | Polarina | How would I go with adding few lines to a ItemRefTooltip without them disappearing? |
| 01:17.54 | Mike-N-Go | Anyone know when the event that is hapning this week is ends? |
| 01:23.14 | zenzelezz | wow I'm slow... didn't notice the "Report Spam" button on mails until now |
| 01:27.55 | Polarina | lol |
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| 01:33.47 | Mr_Rabies2 | i want the darkmoon faire to be here |
| 01:33.55 | Mr_Rabies2 | so i can see if they added L70ETC or not |
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| 01:52.48 | [519fan]subbawt | wt |
| 01:53.05 | [519fan]subbawt | err whoops |
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| 02:19.24 | Shadowed | Anyone played with issecurevariable before? |
| 02:20.20 | clad|away | yes |
| 02:21.26 | Shadowed | not you |
| 02:21.41 | Shadowed | you're the one making me play with it in the first place! |
| 02:21.51 | clad|away | so, maybe you should ask me? |
| 02:21.52 | clad|away | O.o |
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| 02:27.23 | Thunder_Child | no, no logic!! |
| 02:29.12 | Cairenn|afk | the nerve of some people, wanting to bring logic into it! |
| 02:29.22 | Shirik | logic is evil |
| 02:29.25 | Shirik | in any case |
| 02:29.28 | Shirik | I have, what do you need? |
| 02:30.21 | zenzelezz | it's a zomgspiracy I tell you! |
| 02:30.26 | Shadowed | nothing, figured it out |
| 02:30.29 | Shirik | ok :) |
| 02:30.30 | Shadowed | i still blame clad though |
| 02:30.31 | Shirik | in that case |
| 02:30.39 | Shirik | I'm going to sleep in preparation for another long drive tomorrow! |
| 02:38.28 | zenzelezz | hah, figures... [Recipe: Greater Fire Protection Potion] |
| 02:38.28 | zenzelezz | how many times I 3-manned LBRS to help a friend try to get that before BC, now it drops |
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| 02:42.10 | kergoth | any BM hunters around? |
| 02:42.37 | zenzelezz | well, me, but only on my nub farmer |
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| 02:49.07 | kergoth | just wondering whether its better to take imp aspect of the hawk and keep that up, or use viper more |
| 02:50.34 | zenzelezz | hm, afraid I don't know the answer to that one... personally I don't have Imp Hawk, but as I said, it's only a farm char for me, so I've not really investigated :-| |
| 02:50.59 | Thunder_Child | s/no/not/ |
| 02:53.05 | kergoth | hmmm |
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| 03:43.36 | AnduinLothar | MAG DOWN! |
| 03:43.49 | AnduinLothar | and i, the pally, sustained 500 dps |
| 03:43.57 | AnduinLothar | f-ing long fight |
| 03:44.38 | zenzelezz | grats :) |
| 03:57.40 | Gngsk | 500 dps sustained would've been impressive pre-TBC |
| 03:57.44 | Gngsk | but grats nontheless :P |
| 03:58.57 | Thrae | Mages can now do 1000 substained DPS! |
| 03:59.05 | AnduinLothar | not single target |
| 03:59.11 | Thrae | AH Y DO I HAV AGRO?! |
| 03:59.12 | AnduinLothar | i out dpsed all the mages |
| 03:59.35 | Thrae | AnduinLothar: As what, a Paladin? |
| 03:59.42 | AnduinLothar | ya, ret |
| 03:59.56 | AnduinLothar | top dps was a rogue @ 630 |
| 04:00.14 | Gngsk | weakalicious |
| 04:00.27 | Thrae | How did I know you were a Paladin...hmm...you just seem the "Paladin" type. |
| 04:00.33 | Gngsk | well, I guess for a first kill it's not too bad |
| 04:00.40 | AnduinLothar | normally i would agree, but it was 12min long |
| 04:01.12 | Thrae | Paladins, like Druids, secretly like to hurt themselves -- especially those that made them pre-1.8. |
| 04:01.48 | Mr_Rabies2 | <Thrae> How did I know you were a Paladin...hmm...you just seem the "Paladin" type. |
| 04:01.51 | Mr_Rabies2 | perhaps the name? :P |
| 04:02.03 | Thrae | Mr_Rabies2: Perhaps! |
| 04:02.05 | Mr_Rabies2 | UNCLE LOTHAR WANTS YOU |
| 04:02.21 | Thrae | Looothar, of the Hill People, Looothar! |
| 04:04.14 | AnduinLothar | pre 1.1 |
| 04:04.37 | AnduinLothar | they've buffed and nerfed us so many times i lost track |
| 04:07.45 | Mr_Rabies2 | personally i don't care what spec you are as long as you know what you're doing |
| 04:08.14 | AnduinLothar | having to make 4 full sets of gear is kinda a drag |
| 04:08.17 | Mr_Rabies2 | i'll jokingly make fun of restos and call moonkins laser chickens |
| 04:08.49 | Mr_Rabies2 | but no one think's i'm being serious |
| 04:09.11 | Mr_Rabies2 | "hey, man, what spec are you?" "all 61 in resto" "...i'm...sorry?" |
| 04:09.13 | Thrae | AnduinLothar: Druids need to carry more gear then Paladins, hands-down! |
| 04:09.14 | AnduinLothar | i mean i love loot, it's like my motivation for playing.. but it's kinda painful to have to run everything 50 kajilion times |
| 04:09.25 | AnduinLothar | why's that thrae? |
| 04:09.36 | AnduinLothar | unless they respec alot |
| 04:09.48 | Thrae | AnduinLothar: Well, Feral Druids mainly. |
| 04:09.51 | AnduinLothar | in which case i actually have different geat for ret and holy dps |
| 04:09.58 | AnduinLothar | gear* |
| 04:10.10 | Mr_Rabies2 | because our cat gear is nigh useless in bear, our bear gear is nigh useless in cat, our healing gear is useless for anything but healing, and our nuking gear is useless for anything but nuking |
| 04:10.19 | Mr_Rabies2 | and our hybrid gear is useless for everything |
| 04:10.40 | Thrae | Mr_Rabies2: Hybrid with high Stam is good for PvP PUGs ;) |
| 04:10.55 | Mr_Rabies2 | good for surviving and mooching, yep |
| 04:11.03 | Mr_Rabies2 | but useless for actually contributing |
| 04:11.03 | Thrae | Hah |
| 04:11.13 | Mr_Rabies2 | and hell, that's what stealth is for |
| 04:11.30 | Thrae | Well, I like a little extra mana in PvP then I give myself for PvE. |
| 04:11.47 | Mr_Rabies2 | i never use what mana i have anymore |
| 04:11.52 | AnduinLothar | meh: ret dps, tank, healing, pvp, spell dmg dps |
| 04:11.59 | Mr_Rabies2 | trying to heal is a wasted effort more or less |
| 04:12.09 | Thrae | I'm a sucker for punishment, what can I say! |
| 04:12.20 | Mr_Rabies2 | because it doesn't hit for hard enough to be useful |
| 04:12.27 | Mr_Rabies2 | it's better to just burn them down faster |
| 04:13.11 | Thrae | AnduinLothar: That's all the gears you carry around or all you -have-? |
| 04:13.13 | Mr_Rabies2 | i'm thinking about dropping natural shapeshifter because i rarely shift more than 3 or 4 times before my mana regens |
| 04:13.39 | AnduinLothar | i carry all of it except one of the dps sets depending on spec |
| 04:13.42 | Thrae | Mr_Rabies2: What about EoTS flag running? |
| 04:13.52 | Mr_Rabies2 | what about it? |
| 04:13.59 | Mr_Rabies2 | travel form's cheap as hell |
| 04:14.48 | Thrae | Travel Form's 20% without Natural Shapeshifter? |
| 04:14.48 | Mr_Rabies2 | it's 212 mana with 3/3 NSS |
| 04:14.48 | Thrae | I thought it was a percentage, not a hard number. |
| 04:15.00 | Mr_Rabies2 | at 70 that is |
| 04:15.04 | Mr_Rabies2 | it's a % of your base mana |
| 04:15.22 | Thrae | Oh, right. So I guess you have SOME +Int / +Mana on you ;) |
| 04:15.28 | Mr_Rabies2 | none |
| 04:15.42 | Mr_Rabies2 | i have 4370 mana in my gear |
| 04:15.47 | Mr_Rabies2 | and that's plenty |
| 04:16.05 | Thrae | Yeah, and 5 shifts will get you down to critical mana. |
| 04:16.29 | Mr_Rabies2 | 5 shifts is more than i will do in enough time to either die or regen |
| 04:16.42 | Thrae | Well critical, not OOM |
| 04:16.55 | Thrae | Assuming you've regen'd at least once by that point |
| 04:17.04 | Mr_Rabies2 | and if i'm low on mana i generally just find the fastest way to die |
| 04:17.29 | Thrae | Heh |
| 04:17.45 | Mr_Rabies2 | it's better than trying to get more int and hurting my dps |
| 04:17.49 | Thrae | Do you have any extra regen? |
| 04:17.52 | Mr_Rabies2 | for maybe one more shift |
| 04:18.31 | Mr_Rabies2 | 100 mana regenerated every 5 sec while not casting |
| 04:18.43 | Mr_Rabies2 | 0 mana regenerated every 5 sec while casting |
| 04:18.45 | Mr_Rabies2 | so no |
| 04:18.57 | Mr_Rabies2 | i have +4 spirit from Survival of the fittest |
| 04:19.16 | Thrae | Yeah, I didn't mean that. Survival of the Fittest is nice for tanking. |
| 04:19.31 | Mr_Rabies2 | that's all my +spirit |
| 04:19.36 | Mr_Rabies2 | or +mana regen in cat gear |
| 04:20.38 | Mr_Rabies2 | i have 0 +spirit or +int from gear |
| 04:22.38 | Mr_Rabies2 | and i don't need it |
| 04:23.03 | Mr_Rabies2 | because i'd rather not sacrifice damage for a meaningless amount of something that only benefits me when i'm not doing that task my gear's based around |
| 04:23.03 | Thrae | I have decided my next character will be named "Namecensored". |
| 04:23.37 | Thrae | Ooh better yet, "Unknownentity" |
| 04:24.30 | Thrae | Unknownentity hits YOU for 234 fire damage. |
| 04:25.07 | Mr_Rabies2 | i get that when mages come out of invis and i load to them before they do to me |
| 04:31.04 | ckknight | Thrae: best name it "You" |
| 04:31.53 | Mr_Rabies2 | i wonder if that'll fuck with SCT and other combat log parsers |
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| 04:32.07 | ScytheBlade1 | Probably not |
| 04:32.16 | Thrae | ckknight: I was trying to think of -valid- names...You isn't one of them for NA :D |
| 04:32.36 | ckknight | NA? |
| 04:32.47 | Mr_Rabies2 | Na na na na na |
| 04:32.53 | Mr_Rabies2 | gettin jiggy wid it |
| 04:32.57 | Kaydeethree | ..katamari damacy |
| 04:33.04 | Mr_Rabies2 | or katamari damacy |
| 04:33.06 | Mr_Rabies2 | either or |
| 04:34.24 | ScytheBlade1 | pfft, xmms |
| 04:34.26 | ScytheBlade1 | audacious ftw |
| 04:37.19 | batrick | someone said 'this' is deprecated |
| 04:37.27 | batrick | I get a bug when I try to use self instead of this |
| 04:37.28 | batrick | :S |
| 04:37.29 | batrick | lol |
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| 04:39.33 | MentalPower|Work | batrick: if you're hooking blizz functions, you still need to use this instead of self |
| 04:39.46 | batrick | it's just a function for an event handler |
| 04:40.14 | MentalPower|Work | pastey yer code |
| 04:40.48 | batrick | it's just this: checkbutton:SetScript("OnClick", function() bool = this:GetChecked() end) |
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| 04:42.07 | ScytheBlade1 | Is there any way to tell which bag and slot the mouse is over? |
| 04:42.28 | ScytheBlade1 | I just found out why my addon is malfunctioning, and end result, need to find that out :/ |
| 04:42.29 | MentalPower|Work | MouseIsOver(frame) |
| 04:43.02 | MentalPower|Work | checkbutton:SetScript("OnClick", function(self) bool = self:GetChecked() end) |
| 04:43.03 | ScytheBlade1 | Are the individual slots frames? |
| 04:43.07 | MentalPower|Work | aye |
| 04:43.21 | ScytheBlade1 | Wow, that'll destroy performance |
| 04:43.48 | MentalPower|Work | not if you do it top down |
| 04:44.06 | MentalPower|Work | check the bag frames first, then check the slots of the bag that returns true |
| 04:44.19 | ScytheBlade1 | Pretty sure it will if I do it several times a second. |
| 04:45.26 | MentalPower|Work | ah if you do it OnUpdate, then yes |
| 04:45.44 | ScytheBlade1 | OnTooltipSetItem. Almost worse. |
| 04:45.52 | MentalPower|Work | eww |
| 04:45.58 | MentalPower|Work | wait |
| 04:46.38 | MentalPower|Work | can't you check the owner of the tooltip? |
| 04:47.11 | ScytheBlade1 | Technically, the items won't always be in the bags for this. |
| 04:47.23 | ScytheBlade1 | So I'd also have to account for 3rd party frame names too, now that I think about it |
| 04:48.55 | MentalPower|Work | eek |
| 04:49.31 | ScytheBlade1 | My other option is a database of conjured items. |
| 04:49.34 | ScytheBlade1 | Which, I don't want to do. |
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| 04:55.20 | MentalPower|Work | can't you scan for "Conjured Item" in the TT? |
| 04:55.31 | batrick | yes |
| 04:55.37 | ScytheBlade1 | That's the problem |
| 04:55.41 | ScytheBlade1 | (That's what I'm doing) |
| 04:55.45 | ScytheBlade1 | Master Healthstones. |
| 04:55.49 | ScytheBlade1 | Identical names, different ranks. |
| 04:56.08 | ScytheBlade1 | local _, itemLink = GetItemInfo(GameTooltipTextLeft1:GetText()); <-- that's only going to return the itemLink for a single rank, not multiple ranks. |
| 04:56.32 | Cide | beware of items that teach you spells that conjure summoned items :P |
| 04:57.06 | ScytheBlade1 | lol |
| 04:57.30 | ScytheBlade1 | {"1113", "22895", "22019", "8079", "2288", "22018", "8077", "30703", "5349", "1487", "2136", "1114", "8075", "8078", "3772", "8076", "5350", "5510", "19010", "19011", "16895", "19696", "5099", "19008", "19009", "5511", "19007", "19006", "14894", "14894", "32840", "32846", "32847", "19013", "9421", "19012", "32844", "32845", "16896", "8007", "14894", "5513", "8008", "22103", "22105", "22104", "22116", "5512", "19005", "19004", "5232", "16 |
| 04:57.30 | ScytheBlade1 | 893"}; |
| 04:57.33 | ScytheBlade1 | For anyone interested. |
| 04:57.37 | ScytheBlade1 | Typing that out sucked, btw. |
| 04:57.50 | Bam__ | ScytheBlade1: if you check the tooltip owner, can't you get the bag and slot id then? |
| 04:57.57 | Thrae | I am totally interested in your random string of numbers. |
| 04:58.09 | ScytheBlade1 | Thrae, as you should be. |
| 04:58.45 | batrick | what are the numbers? |
| 04:58.49 | batrick | item vlaues? |
| 04:58.52 | ScytheBlade1 | Bam__, yes, but: the tooltips won't always appear over bags (think 3rd party bars) |
| 04:58.56 | batrick | for conjured items? |
| 04:58.58 | ScytheBlade1 | Yeah, of all the conjured consumables in the game. |
| 04:59.03 | batrick | o sweet |
| 04:59.23 | Bam__ | ScytheBlade1: yes you will always have problems with those... |
| 04:59.38 | ScytheBlade1 | Bam__, hence why checking tooltip owner wouldn't work. :) |
| 05:00.05 | Bam__ | ScytheBlade1: could still make it work for the default bags |
| 05:00.33 | ScytheBlade1 | Bam__, true. And I won't lie, that would work in every single case. |
| 05:00.37 | ScytheBlade1 | It's just not "optimal" ;) |
| 05:00.58 | Bam__ | what does GameTooltip:GetItem() return in this case? |
| 05:01.06 | Bam__ | not the exact link? |
| 05:01.31 | ScytheBlade1 | I looked into that, passed on it |
| 05:01.38 | ScytheBlade1 | Can't remember why, let me look it up again |
| 05:01.51 | Bam__ | hmm maybe it's the itemId and not the link |
| 05:02.34 | ScytheBlade1 | I'm extracting the itemId. |
| 05:03.14 | ScytheBlade1 | Holy crap, that would work perfectly. |
| 05:03.56 | Bam__ | yea provided the tooltip has been initialized with the exact link of the item :) |
| 05:04.25 | ScytheBlade1 | Looks like I'm about to find out |
| 05:05.13 | Bam__ | it should be if people use GameTooltip:SetBagItem() for example |
| 05:05.36 | Bam__ | the problem is when an addon uses SetHyperlink() |
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| 05:07.06 | ScytheBlade1 | Looks like it's there when OnTooltipSetItem is fired. |
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| 05:07.36 | Bam__ | cool |
| 05:10.22 | ScytheBlade1 | That's odd |
| 05:10.36 | ScytheBlade1 | OnTooltipSetItem never stops firing if you mouse over some caster oils. |
| 05:10.53 | ScytheBlade1 | Err, it never stops firing period |
| 05:11.01 | Guillotine | Scythe: if you want a definitive list, scan the armory with item-tooltip.xml?= for "<conjured/>" |
| 05:11.10 | Guillotine | since you may not have all conjured items in your cache |
| 05:11.18 | Bam__ | that's because many tooltips are updated by Blizzard every 0.2 seconds |
| 05:11.24 | ScytheBlade1 | Guillotine, http://www.wowhead.com/?items=0&filter=cr=9;crs=1;crv=0#00zc |
| 05:11.27 | ScytheBlade1 | ;) |
| 05:11.31 | Guillotine | ... |
| 05:11.32 | Guillotine | cheater |
| 05:11.35 | ScytheBlade1 | That I am |
| 05:11.45 | Guillotine | but thats only consumables |
| 05:11.49 | ScytheBlade1 | That's all I want |
| 05:12.07 | ScytheBlade1 | I'm a mage. It sucks to destroy 30-40 slots of conjured consumables after every raid. |
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| 05:12.17 | ScytheBlade1 | Hence, I write an addon which nukes them all for me. |
| 05:12.19 | Guillotine | oh, I see |
| 05:12.32 | Guillotine | sorry >.> sucks to come in in the middle of a discussion |
| 05:12.45 | Bam__ | uhhh... addons that destroy something always scare me :P |
| 05:12.45 | ScytheBlade1 | I didn't mention that detail yet anyways. No worries. :) |
| 05:12.59 | ScytheBlade1 | Bam__, me too. Hence why I didn't want to do a list of itemIds. Typos would SUCK. |
| 05:13.18 | ScytheBlade1 | Mostly because PickupItem() and DestroyItem() don't ask for confirmation. |
| 05:13.21 | Bam__ | yea and bugs in the addon would too :P |
| 05:13.22 | Thrae | ScytheBlade1: That sounds unintended. Have you reported the constant firing of OnTooltipSetItem? |
| 05:13.41 | ScytheBlade1 | Thrae, no, I haven't. I'll write a test case and post though. |
| 05:14.05 | haste | The tooltips on the bags are updated on a OnUpdate, for cooldowns I believe |
| 05:14.05 | Bam__ | you mean it still fires even if a tooltip is not being displayed? |
| 05:14.10 | haste | which is the reason it fires like mad |
| 05:14.24 | ScytheBlade1 | That would make sense |
| 05:14.28 | Bam__ | yep, as I said above... every 0.2 seconds |
| 05:14.44 | ScytheBlade1 | That's firing at about my framerate, yeah |
| 05:15.14 | ScytheBlade1 | Only fires once on the bars though |
| 05:15.48 | Bam__ | yea that's because there is an event for the cooldown on actionslots |
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| 05:17.46 | Bam__ | if possible see if you can cache what you do on the first time the tooltip is displayed and use than on the subsequent updates |
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| 05:56.44 | kergoth | what's more effective for a hunter farming, a ravager or a boar? i could see arguments in either direction, i dunno which to use :) |
| 05:58.15 | Cide- | boar is awesome for charge |
| 05:58.37 | Cide- | but ravagar might have that too? dunno! |
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| 06:54.42 | Shadowed | Thunder_Child: Because Cairenn|afk let me get away with it, basically |
| 06:55.11 | Thunder_Child | pushing the envelope? |
| 06:58.21 | Shadowed | no just couldn't come up with any name, will change it once i get one |
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| 08:20.37 | Corrodias | how interesting |
| 08:20.59 | Corrodias | warcraftrealms.com has history data on characters for their levels and guild memberships |
| 08:21.17 | zenzelezz | yes..? |
| 08:21.26 | Corrodias | i did not know this |
| 08:21.48 | Corrodias | apparently i was in a guild back before level 30 for a little while. as i recall, it must have been that i signed somebody's charter for them and didn't bother to /gquit until it dissolved |
| 08:21.50 | zenzelezz | it's not accurate though; relies on the method they farm it |
| 08:22.19 | zenzelezz | (obviously) |
| 08:22.20 | Corrodias | well, it's not precise. i can't say if its data is incorrect, though |
| 08:23.15 | zenzelezz | I mean it can be incorrect in the sense that you may, for example, leave a guild, or ding, and it will go unregistered for some time because you were not online when they updated their data |
| 08:23.43 | Corrodias | here's mine. yay. http://www.warcraftrealms.com/charsheet/18750200 |
| 08:23.58 | Corrodias | i was wondering how long it took me to get through those levels. now i have a vague outline :D |
| 08:24.45 | Corrodias | the gap between january and august 2006 was my first big wow vacation |
| 08:26.51 | zenzelezz | I really loved auno.org's character info for Anarchy Online characters; example: http://auno.org/ao/char.php?dimension=2&name=Zenzio |
| 08:27.27 | Corrodias | what's that unlabelled graph? |
| 08:27.42 | zenzelezz | character's level |
| 08:32.37 | Corrodias | their page for my realm says it doesn't have enough horde data. maybe i can help! |
| 08:32.45 | Corrodias | A to H Ratio: 2.7 : 1 |
| 08:33.27 | Corrodias | 47% are either human or night elf? o.O i hope that's an artifact of the lack of horde data |
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| 08:50.38 | Mr_Rabies2 | this guy: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/8/8c/Brockpierce.jpg |
| 08:50.41 | Mr_Rabies2 | owns IGE now |
| 08:51.11 | Mr_Rabies2 | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brock_Pierce |
| 08:56.54 | Corrodias | well, somebody has to |
| 08:57.13 | Mr_Rabies2 | well actually, it appears he sold off ige and works with affinity now |
| 08:57.18 | Mr_Rabies2 | according to this article |
| 08:57.25 | Mr_Rabies2 | http://news.com.com/8301-10784_3-9733747-7.html?tag=bl |
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| 08:57.37 | Mr_Rabies2 | but it appears that he's still interested in the secondary market |
| 08:58.09 | Corrodias | drama~ |
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| 09:10.04 | Corrodias | ooookay |
| 09:10.08 | Corrodias | i should probably go to bed, now |
| 09:10.10 | Corrodias | or a couple of hours ago |
| 09:11.00 | Mr_Rabies2 | same here |
| 09:11.48 | Corrodias | i want to play my hunter more. i was back in karazhan today. as the kil'rek tank. boy is that an annoying role. |
| 09:12.14 | Corrodias | just whack him a few times and then do as much damage to illhoof as i can, which isn't much in bear form. |
| 09:12.50 | Corrodias | oh to be the manaless dps! mangle, shred, rip! |
| 09:13.38 | Corrodias | we actually almost had him that last time, but we dragged out the fight so long that he enraged and everbody suddenly fell down. :P |
| 09:15.03 | zenzelezz | we tend to just have one tank for both Illhoof and Kil'rek |
| 09:15.40 | Corrodias | i'm totally going to recommend that next time. kil'rek doesn't do -that- much damage (i think i'm taking about 760 per hit or so as a bear) |
| 09:15.57 | zenzelezz | more focused healing that way also |
| 09:15.58 | Corrodias | i've actually only looked at the number once, and that was the one i saw |
| 09:16.24 | zenzelezz | one healer on tank, two or so on chains works for us usually... just have to be careful with aggro on Illhoof at the pull |
| 09:16.40 | Corrodias | if i can just farm/buy another 60 felweed, i can provide 90 mana potions to the raid, even though i don't use mana. that's just the flower picking machine i am. |
| 09:17.27 | Corrodias | aggro on illhoof at the pull? we've never had a problem with that, although the MT's MH is a paladin |
| 09:17.38 | zenzelezz | I mean if he's tanking both |
| 09:17.45 | Corrodias | ah yes |
| 09:18.11 | zenzelezz | tanking Kil isn't too tough though, just taunt him if he runs off and punch him a little |
| 09:18.46 | Corrodias | this is an awesome idea |
| 09:19.35 | Mr_Rabies2 | i should find me an alchemist willing to make me potions for tips |
| 09:19.51 | Mr_Rabies2 | then i get all the benefits of alchemy without having to drop enchanting |
| 09:20.17 | Corrodias | my guildmates are happy to sit there clicking their potion buttons as long as i keep inserting materials and vials |
| 09:20.38 | Mr_Rabies2 | don't they know they're indirectly driving prices down? |
| 09:21.10 | Mr_Rabies2 | well, i guess you coulnt really deny a guildy |
| 09:21.45 | Mr_Rabies2 | but if i'm in a run, i dont let anyone know i'm an enchanter unless i know they know i am |
| 09:21.48 | Corrodias | indeed... i'm providing 180 dreaming glory, 90 felweed, and 90 imbued vials for guild use |
| 09:21.54 | Corrodias | they can make some damn potions |
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| 09:22.10 | Mr_Rabies2 | to assist in keeping the market from getting too saturated |
| 09:22.13 | zenzelezz | just be sure to use a potion spec one |
| 09:23.27 | Corrodias | i really have no idea how guildmates make money. they don't really discuss it. |
| 09:23.36 | Corrodias | i have plenty of cash, and i got it all from quests |
| 09:23.57 | Corrodias | well, that's not true. i sold some clefthoof leather a while back. that was good for a couple hundred g. |
| 09:24.18 | Mr_Rabies2 | quests at 70 net you a ton of gold |
| 09:24.42 | Corrodias | i was lamenting how i ran out of quests on my druid, but then they opened those daily quests |
| 09:25.13 | Mr_Rabies2 | hell i'm at 2000 again after getting epic flying, Stylin purple hat, the full clefthoof set |
| 09:25.18 | Corrodias | me too |
| 09:25.27 | Mr_Rabies2 | i'm out of quests other than dailies |
| 09:25.30 | Mr_Rabies2 | and they're getting boring |
| 09:25.33 | Corrodias | i don't bother to farm gold or things to sell because i have no expenses other than repair bills |
| 09:25.52 | Corrodias | now i'm playing my little hunter alt most of the day |
| 09:26.41 | Fin | I got my epic flying mount yesterday |
| 09:26.44 | Fin | hoo boy |
| 09:26.49 | Corrodias | took this long? LOSER! |
| 09:26.55 | Corrodias | j/k. enjoy |
| 09:26.56 | Fin | I only got to 70 last week |
| 09:27.00 | Fin | heh |
| 09:27.16 | Fin | epic mounts give me the horn something rotten |
| 09:27.17 | zenzelezz | I finally went and got my hunter to 70 the other day so I can farm stuff for my warrior... about a dozen times faster |
| 09:27.24 | Corrodias | you may be surprised how hard it seems to find felweed when you actually WANT it |
| 09:27.34 | Fin | hah |
| 09:27.43 | Corrodias | are you going for a netherdrake/ray, Fin? |
| 09:28.02 | Fin | ah, not yet, but I'd go for a nether ray I think - they look a bit silly but at least they're original :) |
| 09:29.08 | Fin | I was lucky, a mate of mine who quit the game in April (and still has no intention of playing again, so I think it's safe he's not coming back) gave me a load of money, is why I was able to get my mount so quickly |
| 09:29.41 | Fin | now I have to concentrate on getting raid-ready so I can join a proper guild |
| 09:30.08 | Mr_Rabies2 | enjoy your spaceslug |
| 09:30.36 | Mr_Rabies2 | i can turn into a damn bird |
| 09:30.54 | Fin | healing's OK, up to about +980, but only 16 mp5 |
| 09:30.55 | Corrodias | well, what do you consider a proper guild? are you going to be doing a LOT of raiding? like 6 hours straight for days a week? |
| 09:31.13 | Fin | well, I use the word "proper" compared to my current guild, which is my own |
| 09:31.28 | Fin | I'm actually sort of planning to start my own guild at some point |
| 09:31.30 | Corrodias | i'd think most of the guild other than hardcore raiding guilds would take you before you get to the point of being ready to raid as long as you have the intention of doing so if you can gear up a little |
| 09:31.32 | Fin | I used to be a guild master a while ago |
| 09:32.07 | Fin | when I quit, I always said I'd start another guild some day and do it properly (the guild I was made guild master of was quite messy, I always wanted to start from scratch) |
| 09:32.35 | Fin | so right now I'm in a guild with 18 alts and people who've quit their old guilds and want somewhere to park |
| 09:32.52 | Fin | so, "proper" = a fairly casual guild that raids a couple times a week |
| 09:33.19 | Corrodias | sounds like ours |
| 09:33.20 | Fin | I don't know if I'll be able to do it |
| 09:33.35 | Fin | but I'd like to have a guild that doesn't have the sorts of problems I see most guilds have |
| 09:33.37 | Mr_Rabies2 | i was in one of those |
| 09:33.38 | Corrodias | although now we're up to 4-5 nights a week, still stuck in karazhan and can't get maulgar down yet |
| 09:33.52 | Mr_Rabies2 | until the night a 70 mage asked "hey is Attack power or spell crit better" |
| 09:33.59 | Mr_Rabies2 | i found a new guild within a week |
| 09:34.11 | Corrodias | you had one clueless player in the guild and decided to jump ship? |
| 09:34.16 | Corrodias | is there more to the story? |
| 09:34.24 | Mr_Rabies2 | yeah, lots more noobishness |
| 09:34.35 | Mr_Rabies2 | but that one was the camel that broke the bear's brain |
| 09:35.10 | Corrodias | i've recently been educating the level 51-52 hunter alt of one of our rogues who is trying to get keyed for karazhan |
| 09:35.29 | Mr_Rabies2 | wiping on nonheroic mechanar 10 times in a row, stuff like that |
| 09:35.49 | Corrodias | he didn't know how to use autocast abilities on the pet properly (had growl AND cower going) or how to train new pet skills, like learning claw 7 |
| 09:35.51 | Corrodias | at level 52 |
| 09:36.03 | Mr_Rabies2 | heh |
| 09:36.06 | Corrodias | he's not a bad rogue at all |
| 09:36.16 | Mr_Rabies2 | i've always gotten the new pet skills the earliest level possible |
| 09:36.31 | Corrodias | and he's surprised at himself for not knowing this stuff, but i can't imagine HOW he got that far without knowing any of this |
| 09:36.31 | Mr_Rabies2 | even if it means dying quite a few times training angrybears |
| 09:36.42 | Mr_Rabies2 | Corr, he's probably stuck soloing |
| 09:36.45 | Corrodias | me too |
| 09:36.51 | Mr_Rabies2 | and there's almost no hints to it |
| 09:36.53 | Corrodias | me too! |
| 09:37.06 | Mr_Rabies2 | hell i didn't know how focus worked exactly until last week |
| 09:37.21 | Mr_Rabies2 | i knew it was similar to energy, but couldn't track down numbers |
| 09:37.26 | Corrodias | well, i've done a lot of reading about the hunter class. i'm willing to say that i know as much as is possible without having played more than 54 levels of a BM spec hunter. |
| 09:37.29 | Mr_Rabies2 | the pet focus, that is |
| 09:37.35 | Fin | focus is damn useful |
| 09:37.40 | Mr_Rabies2 | nonono |
| 09:37.42 | Mr_Rabies2 | not /focus |
| 09:37.44 | Corrodias | that is, as much as can be known without experience, except for bm spec |
| 09:37.47 | Mr_Rabies2 | the pet power meter |
| 09:38.00 | Corrodias | having focus is useful, too. hahah |
| 09:38.09 | Mr_Rabies2 | i've been told that doing the uhh |
| 09:38.11 | Corrodias | mana, that's some good stuff there |
| 09:38.17 | Corrodias | rhok'delar? |
| 09:38.19 | Mr_Rabies2 | yeah |
| 09:38.29 | Mr_Rabies2 | teaches you a shitload |
| 09:38.37 | Corrodias | have to find a way to get that deep into MC |
| 09:38.47 | Fin | dude! |
| 09:38.51 | Mr_Rabies2 | they should make a mob in zangarmarsh drop it |
| 09:38.59 | Fin | 20 man MC raids, organise a pickup through the forums, they're fun |
| 09:39.05 | Mr_Rabies2 | or the item that begins the quest |
| 09:39.16 | zenzelezz | just move it to Attumen |
| 09:39.24 | Corrodias | we tried a guild run of MC. it was great fun, but we only had a couple of hours and didn't get all that far into it |
| 09:39.35 | Corrodias | we beat a three-headed dog and some kind of rock elemental |
| 09:39.37 | Fin | how many people? |
| 09:39.40 | Mr_Rabies2 | finding reasonably skilled players that are interested is not easy :[ |
| 09:39.56 | Corrodias | around 20 by the end of the run, various levels, mostly 70 |
| 09:40.00 | Corrodias | i think |
| 09:40.15 | Mr_Rabies2 | most of the reasonably skilled ones on my server ran MC enough times to know the place by heart and predict drops reasonably well |
| 09:40.23 | Mr_Rabies2 | "i bet he's gonna drop that damn ring again" |
| 09:40.23 | Fin | were most of the people relatively new? ie not with so much MC experience? |
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| 09:40.32 | Mr_Rabies2 | Sulfuron dies. |
| 09:40.40 | Corrodias | some of us sure were. i had never stepped foot inside MC before that night. |
| 09:40.42 | Mr_Rabies2 | Lewts: That damn ringggggg |
| 09:40.44 | Fin | we used to blow through MC in Adys' pickup in about three hours I think in a full 40-man raid |
| 09:41.00 | Corrodias | at least one person had never been in a raid before. she was a hunter who didn't have Misdirect learned. like, didn't have it. at all. |
| 09:41.06 | zenzelezz | ring from Sulfuron? When I went we always saw Vendorstrike |
| 09:41.10 | Fin | got Rag down before the sons spawned for the first time with that raid, too :) |
| 09:41.22 | Fin | humm |
| 09:41.41 | Fin | yeah, we always got vendorstrike also |
| 09:41.51 | Mr_Rabies2 | woops |
| 09:41.53 | Mr_Rabies2 | i meant geddon |
| 09:41.56 | Mr_Rabies2 | http://www.wowhead.com/?item=17110 |
| 09:42.05 | Mr_Rabies2 | yeah, we saw vendorstrike on sulf every drop |
| 09:42.18 | Fin | the trinket from Rag though, now there's a truly useless item |
| 09:42.31 | Fin | what's it called again... |
| 09:42.59 | Fin | Essence of Pure Flame |
| 09:43.00 | Fin | that's it |
| 09:43.06 | Fin | http://www.wowhead.com/?item=18815 |
| 09:43.16 | Fin | you'd think a fire god would have something a bit more powerful |
| 09:43.32 | Corrodias | he's just an elemental |
| 09:43.39 | Corrodias | high-ranking of course, but no god |
| 09:43.39 | Fin | he's not *just* an elemental |
| 09:43.57 | Fin | anyway, I know, I know, but you know what I mean :) |
| 09:43.58 | Corrodias | servant of the old gods |
| 09:44.19 | Corrodias | or follower. or something. those elementals are crazy. |
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| 09:44.23 | Mr_Rabies2 | and the winner for best spell effect in the game goes to... |
| 09:44.23 | Mr_Rabies2 | http://www.wowhead.com/?spell=32420 |
| 09:44.45 | Fin | oh dude |
| 09:44.47 | Corrodias | is this spell effect attached to anything in the gamE? |
| 09:44.50 | Fin | I want that so, so much now |
| 09:45.22 | Fin | where does it drop? what item uses it? |
| 09:45.26 | Mr_Rabies2 | i'm pretty sure it's an internal item |
| 09:45.31 | Fin | yeah, probably is :( |
| 09:45.33 | foxlit | Funny, my internet seems to be pretty selective in what it connects to |
| 09:46.03 | Fin | I bet my internet could beat your internet in a fight |
| 09:46.43 | foxlit | Weird timeouts somewhere along the line to europe :/ |
| 09:46.44 | Fin | "bet my internet's dad could beat your internet's dad!" |
| 09:46.49 | foxlit | <PROTECTED> |
| 09:46.50 | foxlit | <PROTECTED> |
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| 09:46.51 | Mr_Rabies2 | my internet once killed a fully grown kodiak bear in a fistfight |
| 09:46.52 | Fin | "my internet's dad is dead :(" |
| 09:48.44 | Corrodias | i take it that executus is pretty deep into MC? :( |
| 09:48.53 | Fin | executus? |
| 09:48.57 | zenzelezz | second to last |
| 09:48.57 | foxlit | majordomo |
| 09:49.03 | Corrodias | that's going to be a long night... |
| 09:49.03 | Fin | ohh |
| 09:49.04 | Fin | yeah |
| 09:49.10 | Fin | he's the penultimate boss |
| 09:49.14 | Fin | you don't have to do it all in one night |
| 09:49.18 | Mr_Rabies2 | dude |
| 09:49.25 | Mr_Rabies2 | we cleared all of mc in <4 hours |
| 09:49.26 | Mr_Rabies2 | at 60 |
| 09:49.26 | Corrodias | trying to get a pug to go BACK to MC in the same week? |
| 09:49.35 | Corrodias | dude, you knew how MC works |
| 09:49.38 | Fin | doesn't have to be the same PuG |
| 09:49.46 | Mr_Rabies2 | mc works like cake |
| 09:49.55 | Corrodias | are... are you aware of Raid ID's, Fin? :o |
| 09:49.56 | Mr_Rabies2 | heroics require 1000x more strategy than mc |
| 09:50.01 | Fin | there might be other people who want their rhok |
| 09:50.09 | Fin | corridias: er, yes |
| 09:50.13 | Mr_Rabies2 | organize a 40 hunter raid |
| 09:50.20 | Mr_Rabies2 | god knows there's enough of them |
| 09:50.21 | Corrodias | oh sure. have competition for the leaf. |
| 09:50.39 | Fin | corrodias but I'm sure you can get a pickup to go a certain length, then try and get more people who only want the stuff at the end to come later? |
| 09:50.47 | Fin | just an idea mate |
| 09:50.52 | Corrodias | yeah, i'd love to try it |
| 09:50.52 | Mr_Rabies2 | no one else wants the stuff :p |
| 09:50.58 | zenzelezz | "You four, kite the adds to the entrance while we kill these" |
| 09:51.01 | Corrodias | i'm not the kind of person who can lead or organize, though |
| 09:51.11 | Fin | have you tried? :) |
| 09:51.11 | Mr_Rabies2 | they just want to run it for memories |
| 09:51.25 | Mr_Rabies2 | i bet mc would be pretty easy with raid targets |
| 09:51.33 | Mr_Rabies2 | i haven't been there since they've been introduced |
| 09:51.35 | Fin | zenzelezz: heh |
| 09:51.38 | Mr_Rabies2 | especially geddon |
| 09:51.49 | Fin | it's easier, but still not *that* easy |
| 09:51.51 | Mr_Rabies2 | erm |
| 09:51.52 | Mr_Rabies2 | not geddon |
| 09:51.57 | Mr_Rabies2 | the EXPLODEY ADDY guy |
| 09:52.10 | Fin | we used to get a priest to mind vision one of the adds |
| 09:52.17 | Fin | shit, I still can't remember all their names properly |
| 09:52.23 | Fin | there's too many Ms and Gs and As |
| 09:52.25 | Mr_Rabies2 | we set CTRA targets |
| 09:52.38 | foxlit | UnitIsUnit |
| 09:52.39 | foxlit | gogo |
| 09:52.55 | Mr_Rabies2 | garr |
| 09:52.58 | Fin | heh, yeah, I saw those addons where you could "paint" raid targets on adds |
| 09:53.09 | Fin | yarr! |
| 09:53.11 | foxlit | detect collisions on tank targets, tell tanks to retarget until they all have something unique |
| 09:53.32 | Corrodias | anyway, my guild did go in, and we were there for a couple of hours but only got the first couple of bosses down, i tell you |
| 09:53.38 | foxlit | (That was fun - we told everyone to target an add, any add, and then told tanks who to assist for targets) |
| 09:53.42 | Fin | I was a tank at that point, I had tried so many different addons that did stuff like that |
| 09:54.07 | Mr_Rabies2 | hell you can fight domo like |
| 09:54.10 | Fin | not many of them were that great in practise |
| 09:54.15 | Fin | majorhomo and the flaming wankers |
| 09:54.21 | Fin | always thought that sounded like a band name |
| 09:54.33 | foxlit | [Note: Although often referred to as "tokens", the items required for Tier 4 raid armor appear as actual, if statless, pieces of armor. Each piece can be used by 3 different classes for any of its Tier 4 armor, and the tooltip will indicate which class can use that particular piece. No other items are required. ] |
| 09:54.36 | foxlit | Wiki is so misguided |
| 09:55.00 | Fin | so update it! |
| 09:55.04 | Mr_Rabies2 | misguided? |
| 09:55.05 | Fin | that's the whole point of a wiki :) |
| 09:55.10 | Mr_Rabies2 | how's that misguided? :O |
| 09:55.17 | foxlit | You can't equip T4 tokens. |
| 09:55.25 | Mr_Rabies2 | i think it means the icons |
| 09:55.35 | foxlit | They are, for all effects and purposes, tokens. |
| 09:55.36 | Mr_Rabies2 | are those of armor |
| 09:55.42 | Fin | foxlit: go on, fix the page |
| 09:55.58 | foxlit | No, I plan on pointing out that inaccuracy seventeen more times in different channels! |
| 09:56.05 | Mr_Rabies2 | "The items appears as pieces of armor, but are unequippable" |
| 09:56.10 | Fin | people who complain about incorrect information on wikis and don't update them should be shot :) |
| 09:56.18 | Mr_Rabies2 | "The items appears as pieces of armor, but are unequippable until traded for their complete counterparts" |
| 09:56.23 | Mr_Rabies2 | or something along those lines |
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| 09:58.04 | foxlit | It's fun how those things persist, though |
| 09:58.12 | foxlit | That comment was probably there for ages |
| 09:58.55 | Fin | I would admit to not having noticed the error myself |
| 09:59.57 | Fin | I tend to not fully process things information like that unless it's necessary for something else, I've gotten used to skimming web pages and I'm not great at it |
| 10:00.02 | Fin | -things |
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| 10:00.55 | Fin | but I've also trained myself to double check stuff if there's likely to be an error and it's important |
| 10:01.03 | Fin | I'll never be a computer scientist |
| 10:01.19 | Mr_Rabies2 | i cannot |
| 10:01.21 | Mr_Rabies2 | for the life of me |
| 10:01.24 | Mr_Rabies2 | find a map of mC |
| 10:01.41 | Fin | dude |
| 10:01.45 | Fin | google "map molten core" |
| 10:01.50 | Fin | there's like three at the top of the page |
| 10:01.55 | Mr_Rabies2 | there we go |
| 10:01.56 | Mr_Rabies2 | http://www.wowhead.com/images/screenshots/resized/151.jpg |
| 10:01.59 | foxlit | google times out, still :( |
| 10:02.03 | Mr_Rabies2 | from the most obvious location |
| 10:02.12 | Fin | http://www.hachima.com/wow/strats/moltencore/Map2.php |
| 10:02.21 | Mr_Rabies2 | domo only shows up when you extinguish the flames, right? |
| 10:02.45 | Fin | yes |
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| 10:02.53 | Fin | well, the rune thingies |
| 10:03.01 | Fin | +click on |
| 10:03.14 | Corrodias | some of our guild have the items required... but not enough of us :o |
| 10:03.30 | Fin | shit, yeah, the MC attunement process would be a pain |
| 10:03.35 | Fin | forgot about that |
| 10:03.43 | Corrodias | by the time our run ended, we had 2 symbols untouched and at least 20 minutes left on the item's cooldown |
| 10:03.48 | Corrodias | hey, MC attunement is easy |
| 10:03.53 | Fin | and would you have to do it again each time? |
| 10:03.57 | Fin | oh, right, yeah |
| 10:04.03 | foxlit | Fin: no |
| 10:04.09 | Fin | it's a permanent item now, I forgot |
| 10:04.15 | foxlit | At revered, that |
| 10:04.34 | Corrodias | and that isn't attunement |
| 10:05.05 | Fin | yes, sorry; brain -> IRC filter is dropping packets |
| 10:05.05 | Corrodias | i have a vague idea of what you're talking about, but the attunement is just talking to the guy outside BRD and touching a stone outside the MC portal or something |
| 10:05.18 | Fin | that's right, sorry |
| 10:05.32 | Fin | it's a Blackrock Depths quest |
| 10:06.22 | Fin | but you have to go and see this guy in the middle of Azshara to get the item to extinguish the flamerunethings |
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| 10:06.27 | Mr_Rabies2 | man |
| 10:06.33 | Mr_Rabies2 | this picture is on kirkburn's userpage |
| 10:06.34 | Mr_Rabies2 | http://www.wowwiki.com/images/3/3b/Rogue-Mikk-large.png |
| 10:06.38 | Mr_Rabies2 | and it scares the SHIT out of me |
| 10:06.58 | Fin | wow, look at those eyebrows |
| 10:07.11 | Corrodias | and there's no way to get a good rep with the waterlords except by running MC. yay. |
| 10:07.28 | Corrodias | so we can't get our people more vials without a lot of MC, which we won't do just to get some hunter quest |
| 10:07.48 | Fin | you're not guaranteed of getting the leaf, either :) |
| 10:07.57 | zenzelezz | you can just go back and get more vials, summon them back |
| 10:08.00 | Fin | s/of getting/to get/ |
| 10:08.16 | Fin | it's miles away, but yeah |
| 10:08.34 | zenzelezz | set your hearthstone nearby |
| 10:09.22 | zenzelezz | but you only need eight vials total, should be possible to get eight people with one? |
| 10:10.07 | Corrodias | looks like you need to do some stuff to even get the consumable versions |
| 10:10.18 | Corrodias | not quite as terrible, still requiring a group |
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| 10:10.44 | Fin | that's what I meant when I said that the attunement process would be a pain |
| 10:10.46 | Corrodias | oh, including killing 4 MC bosses |
| 10:11.02 | Fin | it's running around all over the place and stuff... or am I thinking of Ony |
| 10:11.24 | Fin | I'm thinking of Ony |
| 10:11.39 | Mr_Rabies2 | is there a consumable version anymore? |
| 10:11.47 | foxlit | Horde Ony |
| 10:11.49 | foxlit | Yes |
| 10:12.00 | Fin | Alliance Ony is the only one I've done |
| 10:12.04 | Fin | although I'm Horde now |
| 10:12.08 | Corrodias | i will have that bow, somehow |
| 10:12.19 | foxlit | You get consumable versions at low rep, persiting version at high rep |
| 10:12.19 | Corrodias | anyway, off to bed with me. 'ni |
| 10:12.30 | foxlit | Can't even connect to wow, evil |
| 10:12.34 | Fin | Corrodias: transfer your character to a server doing regular MC pickups, then transfer back |
| 10:12.39 | Fin | should only take 6 months |
| 10:12.42 | foxlit | 2monthscooldown? |
| 10:12.50 | Fin | oh, is it only 2? |
| 10:12.51 | Corrodias | i will have it WITHOUT spending $50 |
| 10:12.53 | Fin | well hey, bonus |
| 10:13.03 | Fin | heheh |
| 10:13.48 | Fin | I wonder if Benediction is actually any good nowadays |
| 10:13.53 | Fin | I loved that quest |
| 10:14.41 | Fin | huh, no, not really then - only +106 healing |
| 10:14.46 | Fin | looks pretty though |
| 10:15.15 | foxlit | Leotheras is so fun |
| 10:16.11 | Fin | is that the hunter quest? |
| 10:16.20 | foxlit | http://www.wowwiki.com/Leotheras_the_Blind |
| 10:16.23 | Fin | oh, no |
| 10:16.30 | foxlit | No, SSC boss that's like sartura on drugs |
| 10:16.41 | Fin | foxlit: does google.co.uk / other tld time out also? |
| 10:16.52 | foxlit | Suprisingly, no |
| 10:16.52 | Fin | oh, wow, sounds good |
| 10:17.00 | foxlit | Pinging google.co.uk [216.239.59.104] with 32 bytes of data: |
| 10:17.00 | foxlit | Reply from 216.239.59.104: bytes=32 time=47ms TTL=245 |
| 10:17.18 | foxlit | Pinging www.l.google.com [66.102.9.99] with 32 bytes of data: |
| 10:17.18 | foxlit | Request timed out. |
| 10:17.29 | Fin | s'not that surprising really :) they're quite good about proper geolocation |
| 10:17.52 | foxlit | But they're not good to the point of having pings time out :) |
| 10:17.53 | Fin | I suppose being one of the biggest internet companies in the world, they should be |
| 10:18.14 | foxlit | I suspect there's something very wrong in one of the cables connecting me to continental europe |
| 10:18.16 | Fin | but that's beside the point, big companies being good at things they should be good at is not generally the rule |
| 10:18.44 | Fin | big companies being good at *selling* things they should be good at, that's the rule |
| 10:18.48 | foxlit | Insidius whispers are the best, really :P |
| 10:18.56 | Fin | what does he say? |
| 10:19.08 | foxlit | "We all have our demons" |
| 10:19.26 | foxlit | Summons an add with 11k health that only you can kill; failing to do so within 25 seconds leads to you getting mindcontrolled |
| 10:19.35 | Fin | ! |
| 10:19.38 | Fin | cool! |
| 10:19.56 | foxlit | It is, until you reliaze what critical 15% of your raid can't do that much damage. |
| 10:19.57 | Fin | 25 seconds, shit |
| 10:20.20 | Fin | how big is the raid? 25-man? |
| 10:20.23 | foxlit | Yep |
| 10:20.33 | Mr_Rabies2 | ~sotn |
| 10:20.34 | purl | What is a man? A miserable little pile of secrets! But enough talk! Have at you! http://youtube.com/watch?v=c7E_in_uZnc |
| 10:20.46 | Mr_Rabies2 | sorry, was checking to see if that was still working :p |
| 10:20.47 | foxlit | I'll change that to 30% |
| 10:21.25 | Corrodias | all the healers and tanks, i suppose... |
| 10:21.36 | foxlit | Healers mainly |
| 10:21.47 | foxlit | I'm not sure what's up with tanks, but they didn't seem to be affected |
| 10:21.58 | Corrodias | 10k damage in 25 seconds? well, maybe by the time you get to SSC, your prot warriors can output that much damage. :) |
| 10:22.08 | foxlit | Supposedly, the adds are vulnerable to holy, arcane and nature, but it doesn't seem to help them much |
| 10:22.10 | Fin | foxlit: that is now my favourite Youtube video |
| 10:22.14 | zenzelezz | sure about that Corr? |
| 10:22.34 | Corrodias | why are you asking me? if the tank gets mind controlled, the raid is over, so they must be doing it somehow |
| 10:22.40 | Corrodias | i haven't been to SSC |
| 10:22.48 | Corrodias | *if a tank |
| 10:23.00 | foxlit | Well, it's in the demon phase, so the only thing tanking him is a warlock |
| 10:23.19 | foxlit | Everyone else is pretty much free to do whatever. |
| 10:23.23 | Corrodias | then any prot warriors will have dps gear with them? >_> |
| 10:23.26 | Fin | are there any items you can get like bombs that are useful for that fight? are the demons vulnerable to anything? |
| 10:23.39 | Corrodias | well, never mind. if i really wanted to know, i'd look it up. |
| 10:23.43 | foxlit | I'm not in a position to say, tbh :( |
| 10:23.46 | Corrodias | [away] @ bed |
| 10:23.48 | Fin | oh, I didn't read scrollback, sorry foxlit |
| 10:23.57 | Mr_Rabies2 | <PROTECTED> |
| 10:24.07 | foxlit | Killed my add too fast the only time it spawned one on me |
| 10:24.11 | foxlit | Some conspiracy theory |
| 10:24.11 | Mr_Rabies2 | i wonder if this quote from Kael'thalas is a castlevania reference |
| 10:24.48 | Fin | my favourite quote from WoW is one from the guy that spawns when you get the Thunderfury |
| 10:25.05 | Fin | wonder if I can remember what that is, hmm |
| 10:25.46 | zenzelezz | My power is discombobulatingly devastating! |
| 10:26.00 | zenzelezz | Thunderaan |
| 10:26.15 | Mr_Rabies2 | Mike Tyson |
| 10:26.16 | Mr_Rabies2 | :o |
| 10:26.26 | Fin | oh, it's on WoWWiki |
| 10:26.32 | Fin | and thanks, zenzeleez :) |
| 10:26.51 | Fin | "My power is discombobulatingly devastating! It is ludicrous that these mortals even attempt to enter my realm!" |
| 10:27.22 | foxlit | Chalice "Now... you DIE!" |
| 10:28.13 | foxlit | I've taken to codenaming releases of my addon with bossquotes |
| 10:28.16 | foxlit | Fun :) |
| 10:28.30 | Fin | Blood Bloodlord Mandokir's dings and grats are pretty cool as well :) |
| 10:28.35 | Fin | heh, cool |
| 10:28.41 | Fin | -Blood |
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| 10:29.23 | zenzelezz | I'm a sucker for boss quotes |
| 10:29.45 | Fin | a friend of mine wanted to name all the guild ranks in his guild after random quotes that you see NPCs saying around the world :) |
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| 10:30.07 | foxlit | Last one was "It is only a matter... of time." |
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| 10:30.18 | Fin | who's that from? :) |
| 10:30.28 | foxlit | (preceded by "<Kalgan> zomg patch tomorrow!") |
| 10:30.36 | foxlit | End boss of BM |
| 10:30.56 | foxlit | Was a tie between him and Moroes (Time... never enough time), since the release was mostly timer-oriented |
| 10:31.05 | Fin | is the +v a particular thing granted to people on this channel by its admins, or a server thing? |
| 10:31.30 | foxlit | Both, I think |
| 10:31.39 | zenzelezz | Do not touch the displays. |
| 10:31.40 | foxlit | Admins have to tell chanserv to voice you automatically |
| 10:31.46 | foxlit | curator :P |
| 10:31.53 | Fin | and you have to be registered for that to happen |
| 10:31.54 | Fin | k |
| 10:32.30 | zenzelezz | Anub'Rekhan had a lot of cool quotes; in my taste anyway |
| 10:32.53 | foxlit | It'll all be over soon. |
| 10:33.00 | foxlit | I use that one as part of a /comfort joke |
| 10:33.00 | Mr_Rabies2 | every time something in the caverns of time makes a time parody |
| 10:33.06 | Mr_Rabies2 | i punch a baby |
| 10:33.12 | Mr_Rabies2 | er, time pun |
| 10:33.27 | foxlit | Grand Widow, though |
| 10:33.44 | zenzelezz | Faerlina? <3 |
| 10:34.51 | Fin | I would like a windows utility where I can ctrl+click two files, right click, and choose "show diff" - anyone know of one that'll do that? |
| 10:35.08 | Fin | basically, a diff tool that'll modify the context menu for multiple files |
| 10:35.43 | Mr_Rabies2 | the funniest thing i've ever seen though |
| 10:35.51 | foxlit | damn, can't find the /o quote |
| 10:35.59 | Mr_Rabies2 | is blizzard's offtopic interview video |
| 10:36.02 | Mr_Rabies2 | where they're like |
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| 10:36.40 | Mr_Rabies2 | "the greatest thing is when these people come up with these long convoluted strategies that we completely didn't intend that people still use to this day" |
| 10:36.43 | Mr_Rabies2 | referring to chromaggus i think |
| 10:36.45 | zenzelezz | hehe |
| 10:36.59 | zenzelezz | never trust people to do things the way you intend :-p |
| 10:37.20 | zenzelezz | There will be pain; oh so much pain |
| 10:37.54 | foxlit | http://www.ashesguild.org/newspics/quotes/20/recruits.gif |
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| 10:38.36 | zenzelezz | lol |
| 10:38.36 | Mr_Rabies2 | http://www.wowinsider.com/2007/06/13/the-masterminds-of-wow-on-gaming/ |
| 10:38.38 | Mr_Rabies2 | here it is |
| 10:38.49 | zenzelezz | Mr_Rabies: cheers |
| 10:39.14 | Mr_Rabies2 | i'd love to visit blizzard hq |
| 10:39.15 | Mr_Rabies2 | :[ |
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| 10:39.46 | Mr_Rabies2 | if it wasn't for my hatred of the average wow player, i'd love to become a GM |
| 10:40.16 | MoonWolf | avarage wow players are not the worst part of the job |
| 10:40.36 | Mr_Rabies2 | i hear reporting suicides is the worst part |
| 10:40.37 | MoonWolf | the avarage wow players is a dream compared to the idiots that create the bulk of the "hard" tickets to fix. |
| 10:40.37 | Mr_Rabies2 | :[ |
| 10:40.46 | Mr_Rabies2 | and other than that, RPers |
| 10:41.07 | MoonWolf | Never heard that before. |
| 10:41.11 | Mr_Rabies2 | apparently sometimes people send in GM tickets when they go to commit suicide |
| 10:41.18 | MoonWolf | the rp'er part that is. |
| 10:41.30 | Mr_Rabies2 | and having to ask "are you okay?" to someone who may or may not be dead is not a great feeling |
| 10:41.53 | foxlit | Shouldn't there be a pre-typed lawyer-approved reply for that? |
| 10:41.54 | Mr_Rabies2 | RPers are a problem because they tend to report people for stupid stuff |
| 10:41.55 | MoonWolf | are you okay? No I'm about to kill myself you idiots, i'm no okay! |
| 10:42.23 | Mr_Rabies2 | and they have to get ahold of the authorities if they get no response |
| 10:42.32 | Mr_Rabies2 | i dunno if the GM's themselves do it or get a supervisor or what |
| 10:42.34 | MoonWolf | foxlit, the last thing you do to try and make someone not kill themselves is throw macro's at them. |
| 10:42.50 | Mr_Rabies2 | oh, and when RPers report 100 names at once |
| 10:42.50 | foxlit | I'm not sure. |
| 10:42.58 | Mr_Rabies2 | that gives the GM one ticket towards his quota |
| 10:43.00 | MoonWolf | wow, this totally unpersonal generic message made me want to not kill myself. |
| 10:43.12 | foxlit | What you do by default may be orders of magnitude worse |
| 10:43.23 | MoonWolf | guidlines would be good |
| 10:43.23 | Mr_Rabies2 | but he'll have to spend about an hour sorting all the names out and going through the red tape |
| 10:43.31 | MoonWolf | premade messages BAD. |
| 10:44.16 | MoonWolf | how hard would it be to make a specific name report tool |
| 10:44.21 | MoonWolf | to streamline that shit. |
| 10:44.43 | MoonWolf | put name in box a, put reason in box b, goes to s special queue for name tickets. |
| 10:45.09 | Mr_Rabies2 | or RPers could stop being such pansies |
| 10:45.09 | Mr_Rabies2 | :[ |
| 10:45.32 | MoonWolf | mr_Rabies there is a policy on those realms for naming |
| 10:45.41 | MoonWolf | is it unusual for them to want it enforced ? |
| 10:46.16 | Mr_Rabies2 | no, but it's annoying to hear them moan and complain about stuff that doesn't matter |
| 10:46.33 | Mr_Rabies2 | that's like reporting someone for accidentally saying "fuck" in general chat |
| 10:47.15 | Mr_Rabies2 | if they're going into flame mode or being tourettes guy about it |
| 10:47.18 | Mr_Rabies2 | then i understand |
| 10:47.28 | Mr_Rabies2 | but one accidental profanity is just a waste of a GM's time |
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| 10:48.49 | MoonWolf | its people |
| 10:48.58 | MoonWolf | people in general are idiots, live with it. |
| 10:49.14 | Mr_Rabies2 | that's why...... |
| 10:49.23 | Mr_Rabies2 | <Mr_Rabies2> if it wasn't for my hatred of the average wow player, i'd love to become a GM |
| 10:50.56 | Mr_Rabies2 | i hate ordinary people too, but wow players much more |
| 10:52.08 | Osagasu | Well, Rabies... if Blizzard would properly enforce RP server rules, 10 and 15 of us wouldn't have to send tickets with 100 names each. They need to be able to actively enforce the rules, not reactively. |
| 10:53.07 | MoonWolf | I'd be fine with a name aproval system |
| 10:53.16 | MoonWolf | i'm not going to create alts on a rp server like mad anyway |
| 10:53.44 | Osagasu | The names aren't the only thing. |
| 10:53.55 | MoonWolf | (all my high levesl are on rp servers of some sort either rp or rp-pvp) |
| 10:54.19 | Osagasu | Ah, it means you know our problems. |
| 10:54.25 | zenzelezz | I don't play on an RP server, but I would imagine the names, for the most part, would be the least of problems |
| 10:54.59 | Osagasu | They are the least of our problems, but they're the only.. ONLY things we can get GMs to enforce. |
| 10:55.08 | zenzelezz | really? |
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| 10:55.31 | Osagasu | I have never seen a person even warned for breaking RP rules continually. |
| 10:55.48 | Mr_Rabies2 | how can they actively enforce naming rules? |
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| 10:55.59 | zenzelezz | I remember when I got the game and was reading through the manual while installing; I kept thinking "wow, RP server rules are strict!" |
| 10:56.01 | Mr_Rabies2 | unless they turn off name creation for rp realms |
| 10:56.05 | MoonWolf | every char created gets looked at |
| 10:56.07 | Mr_Rabies2 | and make them all use the random name generator |
| 10:56.13 | Mr_Rabies2 | hahahaha |
| 10:56.14 | Mr_Rabies2 | no way |
| 10:56.18 | MoonWolf | someone who is good can go through about 50 an hour |
| 10:56.19 | Osagasu | it's easy. /who 1-10 every 5 minutes or so. Takes one person. |
| 10:56.23 | Mr_Rabies2 | that's the most inefficient thing i've ever seen |
| 10:56.49 | Fin | inefficient but easy |
| 10:57.38 | Mr_Rabies2 | more work than waiting on RPers to send in a ticket |
| 10:57.51 | Osagasu | With 100 names? |
| 10:57.59 | Osagasu | I think not. |
| 10:58.15 | Mr_Rabies2 | you don't understand how many characters get created in a minute |
| 10:58.19 | Osagasu | Because if one of us has sent in names, most of the time there's a group of us doing it |
| 10:58.43 | Mr_Rabies2 | 50 an hour would be a backlog of like a month in like a year |
| 10:58.46 | zenzelezz | just flag RP characters as "new" on creation, and don't allow them to level past 10 without having the flag removed when the name was validated |
| 10:59.03 | zenzelezz | "just" |
| 10:59.05 | Mr_Rabies2 | orrr |
| 10:59.11 | Mr_Rabies2 | they could just close all the rp servers |
| 10:59.15 | Mr_Rabies2 | and be done with it |
| 10:59.17 | Mr_Rabies2 | that's about as useful |
| 10:59.25 | Mr_Rabies2 | probably more useful and a lot less work |
| 10:59.29 | Osagasu | They wouldn't do that, because then they lose money. |
| 11:00.16 | Mr_Rabies2 | i dunno, hiring a huge team of GMs who do nothing but check every character created seems like a pretty big waste of money too |
| 11:01.31 | zenzelezz | in my brief period of trying EQ2 shortly after release I tried an RP server... was a bit freaked out by all the "<number>th season <class> looking for adventure" on the chat channels |
| 11:01.48 | Mr_Rabies2 | i'm just glad i don't have any characters on RP servers other than ones i use to laugh at others |
| 11:01.54 | Osagasu | Like I said, /who 1-10 every 5 or 10 minutes. It doesn't have to be perfect, but skimming through the names would take less than 30 seconds. I know this because I've done it. |
| 11:01.57 | Mr_Rabies2 | i really hate the communities of those places |
| 11:02.13 | Mr_Rabies2 | /who 1-50 on 200 servers is going to take a lot of people a lot of time |
| 11:02.25 | Mr_Rabies2 | filling out a namechange takes about 5 minutes in and of itself |
| 11:02.28 | Osagasu | did I say 1-50? |
| 11:02.31 | Mr_Rabies2 | er |
| 11:02.33 | Mr_Rabies2 | 1-10 |
| 11:03.08 | Osagasu | and 10 RPers sending our messages with 100 names each doesn't waste a lot of time? |
| 11:03.34 | Mr_Rabies2 | not as much as that |
| 11:03.44 | Mr_Rabies2 | that's incredibly inefficient |
| 11:04.10 | Mr_Rabies2 | letting people try to police themselves, even as drama prone as RPers are, is more efficient than that |
| 11:04.43 | Fin | there are 463 servers in the US and EU, how many of those are RP roughly, does anyone know? |
| 11:04.54 | zenzelezz | wow, been too long since I got ganked by the Crimson Courier |
| 11:05.05 | Mr_Rabies2 | though i will admit running around goldshire with flagRSP on is quite comical |
| 11:05.18 | Osagasu | About 20. |
| 11:05.28 | Osagasu | At least US |
| 11:05.32 | Osagasu | probably the same EU |
| 11:05.41 | Fin | about 10% then, thanks |
| 11:06.47 | Mr_Rabies2 | there's about 1300 GMs in the US as of january or so, last i heard |
| 11:07.15 | Osagasu | And I'm sorry, but I don't see a team of RP-GMs who actively enforce roleplay rules as a waste of money. It's what -I- pay for. |
| 11:08.08 | Osagasu | I'm going to work. |
| 11:08.25 | Mr_Rabies2 | most RPers are too volatile and have too high of a sense of entitlement |
| 11:09.28 | Mr_Rabies2 | i like to think of the RP servers as leper colonies designed so that regular players don't have to deal with them |
| 11:09.56 | zenzelezz | that's a pretty interesting opinion |
| 11:10.59 | Mr_Rabies2 | the few GMs that i've talked to have said most of the rest of the GMs feel about the same way |
| 11:11.09 | Mr_Rabies2 | about the volatility and entitlement thing |
| 11:11.53 | Mr_Rabies2 | well, ex-GMs |
| 11:12.06 | Mr_Rabies2 | because they're under NDA and stuff i'm assuming during employment |
| 11:12.45 | zenzelezz | if they didn't want people to feel strong about the rules on the RP realms they shouldn't have worded them so strongly in the first place |
| 11:13.31 | Mr_Rabies2 | my solution still stands |
| 11:13.50 | Mr_Rabies2 | however that means us on regular servers would have to deal with them |
| 11:14.50 | Mr_Rabies2 | there's the minority of sane roleplayers |
| 11:15.42 | Mr_Rabies2 | and then there's those whose only difference between furries is the majority of them don't think they were a fox in a past life |
| 11:26.10 | Mr_Rabies2 | i can't find this thread where an ex-GM has a Q and A with some people on a forum i frequent |
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| 11:58.37 | foxlit | 3rd Law of Computing: Anything that can go wr fortune: Segmentation violation -- Core dumped |
| 11:58.54 | Fin | :P |
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| 12:26.38 | Fin | what's good for recording videos in WoW? I know about fraps, is there anything better or just as an alternative? |
| 12:26.47 | Cairenn|afk | GameCam |
| 12:27.07 | Cairenn|afk | better/worse - dunno, but another |
| 12:27.31 | Fin | thanks |
| 12:27.36 | Cairenn|afk | np |
| 12:27.58 | Kirkburn|sleep | Silly action of the month: http://www.neowin.net/forum/index.php?showtopic=568735 (2 Girls Kicked Off Ore. Bus for Kissing...) |
| 12:28.43 | cladhaire | Fin: you can use http://taksi.sourceforge.net |
| 12:28.49 | cladhaire | i actually had good experiences with it |
| 12:29.14 | Fin | cladhaire: ooh, open source, thanks :) not necessarily better, but you can hope :) |
| 12:30.17 | cladhaire | it actually worked very well |
| 12:30.32 | cladhaire | and free is nice :P |
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| 12:32.16 | Fin | is it a bad idea to think about modifying tooltips? they seem quite tricky from what I can tell |
| 12:32.48 | Fin | (mostly because of conflicting / badly interacting addons) |
| 12:33.04 | Lopeppeppy | It's never a bad idea to *think* about something, so long as you have the internal strength and external caffeine to see you through the project? |
| 12:33.20 | Fin | oh, it's a small enough thing I want to do |
| 12:33.35 | Fin | just add one or two lines to player tooltips |
| 12:33.42 | Fin | but... is it *really* a small enough thing? :) |
| 12:33.59 | Lopeppeppy | Then tricky just adds to the spice. But yeah, I've formed the understanding that it's a strategically-wonky area of coding at times. |
| 12:34.22 | cladhaire | if its just for you and you dont intend to release it, its relatively easy |
| 12:34.33 | cladhaire | since you can troubleshoot your own issues =) |
| 12:34.37 | cladhaire | there _can_ be conflicts |
| 12:34.39 | Fin | I want to modify AltNames to add a player's main name to tooltips, and possibly a list of their alts |
| 12:34.55 | Fin | so it would be nice to release it |
| 12:34.56 | cladhaire | so you'd be altering the first line |
| 12:35.01 | Fin | not necessarily |
| 12:35.08 | Fin | I was actually thinking a seperate line |
| 12:35.11 | cladhaire | okay, possibly adding stuff to the bottom? |
| 12:35.22 | cladhaire | may want to look at Auctioneer's EnhTT or whatever that library is |
| 12:35.32 | cladhaire | way to add stuff like that and be nice to other addons doing the same |
| 12:35.56 | Fin | Lopeppeppy: that's why I said "possibly" for the list of alts :) but one of the targetting addons I have lists who's targetting a unit nicely (Targetted by: Name, Name, Name) |
| 12:36.08 | Fin | OK, thanks, will do |
| 12:36.17 | Fin | possibly, yes |
| 12:36.52 | Fin | I was thinking a line saying "Main: Fin" and maybe (or an option to display) "Alts: Phin, Phyn, Finja, etc." |
| 12:37.29 | Fin | thanks for the advice guys, I'll give it a stab |
| 12:38.25 | Lopeppeppy | G'luck, let me know if you host it up somewhere for testing. My client crashes often enough that testing a new addon just adds flavor at this point. :) |
| 12:38.35 | Fin | heheh |
| 12:38.36 | Fin | thanks |
| 12:40.26 | Cairenn|afk | btw, just for info - for anyone planning on going to BlizzCon, we've tentatively planned the UI Community supper for Saturday evening |
| 12:41.09 | Fin | I wish :( |
| 12:41.31 | Cairenn|afk | I didn't think I was going to be, until certain people brow-beat me into accepting the help |
| 12:41.53 | Cairenn|afk | which still blows me away, the response |
| 12:43.06 | Lopeppeppy | It's good to have community. |
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| 12:45.39 | |Jelly| | Still haven't narrowed down our crashing issue, Peppy? |
| 12:45.57 | |Jelly| | your* |
| 12:46.15 | Lopeppeppy | Nope. I did extensive RAM tests, it's not the RAMs. And it's not my drivers, or my cooling, repaired my game.... nothin'. |
| 12:46.45 | Lopeppeppy | It's not a corrupt Saved Variable, because the crashes always wipe my SV file. Therefore... aliens are nesting on my video card, and the babies are chewing the wires? o.O |
| 12:47.12 | |Jelly| | That sounds about right. |
| 12:47.46 | Lopeppeppy | Pretty much. I'm down to wondering if I have the stamina to erase my game and re-install, see if that helps any. |
| 12:49.04 | Fin | I figured out my crashing issue, my machine was overheating |
| 12:49.15 | Fin | I didn't think it was - ran all sorts of temperature monitoring tools and stuff |
| 12:49.26 | foxlit | I can get away with unregistering events I did not register, right? |
| 12:49.36 | cladhaire | foxlit: yes you can |
| 12:49.50 | Fin | eventually I tried something that worked once before - took the side of the case off and pointed my big standup summer fan at the machine |
| 12:49.53 | cladhaire | tho it wouldn't hurt to track if your code has run, so you don't run it again. |
| 12:49.54 | Lopeppeppy | Fin: I've got the side ripped off my case, extra cooling fan installed, and a house fan circulating at it from 12". I don't think I'm overheating. |
| 12:49.56 | Fin | works fine now |
| 12:50.02 | cladhaire | but nothing fatal will happen if you unregister a non-registered event. |
| 12:50.07 | Lopeppeppy | *laugh* Jinx, Fin. |
| 12:50.08 | foxlit | It's mainly a lazyness thing |
| 12:50.25 | Fin | hahah :) |
| 12:50.35 | foxlit | I can't use ClearOverrideBindings() in combat, so if the user closes the form, provoking the OnHide clearing bindings, it will not do a thing |
| 12:50.45 | Fin | Lopeppeppy: have you checked for voltage issues? |
| 12:51.09 | foxlit | So I'm thinking of dumping ClearOverrideBindings into OnEvent, then either calling it (GetScript) or Registering the event in OnHide |
| 12:51.15 | Fin | Lopeppeppy: and you might want to move the fan closer ;P (mine is about 2") |
| 12:51.29 | foxlit | Worst case scenario is that once in a blue moon it'll try to unregister something it didn't register |
| 12:51.49 | Lopeppeppy | Space issues, Fin. Unless I get a clamp-on desk fan... *ponders* |
| 12:52.26 | Fin | is there a way of finding out if something's registered, and just re-registering out of combat? |
| 12:53.05 | cladhaire | no, you can't query whether something is registered or not. |
| 12:53.08 | cladhaire | you'd have to track that yourself |
| 12:53.13 | cladhaire | which you could do relatively easily |
| 12:54.32 | foxlit | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:54.32 | foxlit | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:54.45 | foxlit | Ugly but should work |
| 12:56.54 | foxlit | should elf:GetScript("OnEvent")(); be elf:GetScript("OnEvent")(self); ? |
| 12:57.04 | foxlit | s/elf/self/ |
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| 13:11.35 | Josh_Borke | guten morgen alles |
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| 13:13.26 | Lopeppeppy | And good morning to you too. |
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| 13:48.04 | TS|Skrom | morning |
| 13:48.10 | foxlit | any advantage to: local x; for i=1,10 do x = CreateFrame(...) ... end, vs for i=1,10 local x = CreateFrame(...) ... end |
| 13:48.20 | foxlit | Morning :) |
| 13:48.29 | Lopeppeppy | Heya, TS|Skrom. |
| 13:49.39 | Fin | I always hate it when I think of a loop that has nothing inside it and I can't think of another way to express it |
| 13:53.15 | Legorol | foxlit: the first solution is infinitesimally bit more efficient |
| 13:54.00 | TS|Skrom | it's early so forgive me |
| 13:54.09 | TS|Skrom | wouldn't you just be destroying the previous frame each time? |
| 13:54.37 | foxlit | I'd be destroying my local reference, but the global object would persist |
| 13:54.44 | foxlit | It's similar to how tables are handled |
| 13:54.53 | TS|Skrom | oh okay heh |
| 13:55.07 | krka | Legorol: why do you think so? |
| 13:55.19 | krka | i think the second is better myself :) |
| 13:55.38 | Josh_Borke | i think i agree with krka |
| 13:56.06 | Josh_Borke | since the local x would be created on the stack and wouldn't need to be referenced as an upvalue. though it could be just stuck inside a register when compiled and then, blah |
| 13:56.23 | krka | no upvalue in either case |
| 13:56.37 | Legorol | they are both local |
| 13:56.47 | Legorol | in the 2nd case, wouldn't there be a tiny bit extra code for stack management? |
| 13:56.59 | Legorol | since with each loop you have to deallocate/reallocate a register on the stack |
| 13:57.20 | Legorol | unless the compiler is clever enough to optimize that away |
| 13:57.48 | Josh_Borke | they generate almost exactly the same byte code |
| 13:58.05 | krka | Legorol: stack slots are not allocated / deallocated |
| 13:58.09 | krka | they are simply used |
| 13:58.18 | Wobin | You probably won't be creating enough frames to make much of a difference either way =) |
| 13:58.24 | krka | in the beginning of starting a function, lua allocates as many slots as it needs |
| 13:58.26 | Wobin | And if you are, you have other things to worry about =) |
| 13:59.03 | Wobin | (and by 'much of a difference either way' I mean, any saving you make by choosing one over the other) |
| 13:59.04 | krka | i always prefer as small scope as possible |
| 13:59.47 | krka | the only byte code difference should be an extra nil allocation to a local variable in the first case |
| 13:59.56 | Legorol | krka: ok so they are simply used |
| 14:00.16 | Legorol | but isn't some overhead associated with the fact that you are making use of a "fresh" slot, even if it's physically the same one each time? |
| 14:00.43 | krka | no |
| 14:00.53 | Wobin | night all |
| 14:01.08 | krka | for a good explanation on why, implement a virtual machine :) |
| 14:01.19 | Legorol | ok |
| 14:01.29 | Legorol | i consider you the authority on this so i take your word :o) |
| 14:01.48 | Fin | godammit |
| 14:02.05 | Fin | I hate it when I type something out, then realise I should check scrollback to see if anyone's already said it, and someone has |
| 14:02.40 | Fin | night Wobin |
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| 14:03.47 | krka | actually... |
| 14:03.51 | krka | the first one is actually worse |
| 14:03.57 | krka | it uses an unnecessary move |
| 14:04.19 | krka | calling CreateFrame and then moving the return value into x |
| 14:04.25 | krka | in the second case, no move is required |
| 14:04.48 | krka | i think a good general rule is: use as small scope as you can |
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| 14:20.20 | foxlit | Did I just pass the WoWI moderation instantly? |
| 14:21.13 | Lopeppeppy | Don't know... I didn't see any moderation notices on my pane. |
| 14:21.29 | foxlit | Nah, I failed by not changing the radio button to "replace with:" |
| 14:22.07 | Lopeppeppy | I believe you when you talk Greek to me. :) |
| 14:24.30 | foxlit | So silly; ~16k downloads of recent version of Ogri'Lazy, but only ~6k of the more serious addon :( |
| 14:25.25 | Lopeppeppy | I really, seriously, need to finish up my 60-70 quests, and start the daily faction quest lines. I'm just being Ogri'lazy myself on that. |
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| 14:45.12 | Josh_Borke | morning bela |
| 14:45.18 | Lopeppeppy | *wave* |
| 14:45.37 | Josh_Borke | i used a tinypad page for the ogri'la simon says |
| 14:45.48 | Josh_Borke | what is this 'more serious addon' you mention? |
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| 14:57.47 | Nom- | *sigh* |
| 14:57.55 | Nom- | Is it just me, or is Gruul 100% luck based |
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| 14:58.46 | Lopeppeppy | Our group is finding that the first fight seems to be half luck... but I'm sure once we find the "trick" of the tactics, it will be like "Duh! Should have done that all along!" |
| 15:00.36 | Nom- | High King is all about the pull and positioning |
| 15:00.43 | Nom- | Compared to Gruul it's quite easy |
| 15:00.46 | End | maulgar is a lot easier if you have more hunters, since that fight depends a lot on the pull |
| 15:00.58 | [dRaCo] | yeah, maulgar is easy once you know how to do it |
| 15:01.04 | [dRaCo] | gruul is luck based |
| 15:01.09 | Lopeppeppy | I think we've been slacking on the DPS, worrying too much about tanking them.... healers run out of mana, etc. We need more burn, less standing-power. |
| 15:01.15 | [dRaCo] | one bad groundslam can ruin a whole try |
| 15:01.18 | Nom- | The problem we're having is that all the DPS is positioned great, and then they all land in one spot |
| 15:01.39 | Nom- | and by the time they land, we've already got 3-4 ticks and have less than 1 second to move |
| 15:01.45 | Nom- | moving at 20% or normal speed |
| 15:02.06 | [dRaCo] | get more rogues, cloak of shadow ftw! ;) |
| 15:02.24 | End | gruul does leave an awful lot to luck sometimes, although you can mitigate your chances of getting clumped up :P |
| 15:02.29 | TS|Skrom | anyone wanna give me an evaluation of my level 70 healadin spec? |
| 15:02.43 | TS|Skrom | http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=qVxhMguGestxMZx |
| 15:02.49 | ScytheBlade1 | There are a few spots which will *not* get you thrown |
| 15:03.05 | ScytheBlade1 | And if you learn how to time a jump to a ground slam, you'll be flung all of 10 feet |
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| 15:03.23 | [dRaCo] | jumping helps? |
| 15:03.41 | End | that I didn't know, but it doesn't surprise me |
| 15:03.54 | ScytheBlade1 | If and only if you can time it correctly |
| 15:04.00 | ScytheBlade1 | I manage it about 50% of the time |
| 15:04.05 | ScytheBlade1 | The other 50%, well, I've got blink ;) |
| 15:04.09 | [dRaCo] | ^^ |
| 15:04.21 | Lopeppeppy | TS|Skrom, give me a few to ponder over it! |
| 15:04.51 | TS|Skrom | thanks ;-) |
| 15:06.19 | Lopeppeppy | Here's a link to my Armory to keep you busy in the meantime, TS|Skrom. http://armory.worldofwarcraft.com/#character-sheet.xml?r=Argent+Dawn&n=Kirwan |
| 15:06.33 | TS|Skrom | ./swoon |
| 15:06.33 | [dRaCo] | TS|Skrom: the best healerding I know specced http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=aVxubgzheotxMt0bs |
| 15:07.23 | Legorol | As per a guildmate's suggestion, i have created the coolest (for me) macro ever |
| 15:07.25 | Legorol | it has this: |
| 15:07.28 | TS|Skrom | 10% chance to 1/2 damage > .32% to block/dodge |
| 15:07.29 | Legorol | /script PlaySoundFile ("Sound\\Music\\GlueScreenMusic\\BCCredits_Lament_of_the_Highborne.mp3") |
| 15:07.30 | Thrae | #us argent dawn Kirwan |
| 15:07.37 | Legorol | that's my favourite macro atm |
| 15:07.44 | Legorol | i can recommend to everyone |
| 15:07.52 | Lopeppeppy | Hmmm, Thrae? |
| 15:08.00 | Thrae | Forgot the Foxbot trigger |
| 15:08.06 | Thrae | !triggers |
| 15:08.06 | Lopeppeppy | Crud. Sorry! |
| 15:08.08 | TS|Skrom | I don't like kings for 5-mans, which is all I do atm |
| 15:08.11 | Thrae | #triggers |
| 15:08.33 | [dRaCo] | TS|Skrom: I don't know that much about healerdins, I just know that guy heals like crazy and can take some hits |
| 15:08.42 | Lopeppeppy | Kings has been vital to some of the Karazhan runs we've done, TS|Skrom, nights when we didn't have a priest for the Fort buff. |
| 15:08.44 | TS|Skrom | hehe |
| 15:08.53 | TS|Skrom | oh? |
| 15:09.10 | [dRaCo] | yeah, Kings is a must-have, imo |
| 15:09.11 | Lopeppeppy | I find I do better with enough Protection to live through a few hits, and Kings has been a deciding factor enough to keep it in place. |
| 15:09.17 | End | I'd say kings is probably more useful than imp. might |
| 15:09.19 | TS|Skrom | my guild usually has 2-3 pally's per run though XD |
| 15:09.52 | [dRaCo] | 10% more hp for your tank are great |
| 15:09.54 | Lopeppeppy | Then do you need to be the one with Imp. Blessing of Might? Or do you have some Prot/Ret paladins who have it? |
| 15:09.57 | End | (although, for raiding you only need one paladin to have kings) |
| 15:10.18 | Lopeppeppy | 'cause for me, that was a wasted set of talent points, since our Ret and Prot paladins already had it. They do it, I do Kings/Wisdom, we're all happy. |
| 15:10.18 | TS|Skrom | no, most our pallies are healadins too, though I know at least two of em have kings |
| 15:10.56 | kaiden | most healadins get kings and improved might |
| 15:11.00 | TS|Skrom | I just don't like kings for my own build because from my own perspective, 10% more spirit will not top improved wisdom. 10% more str will not top improved might, etc |
| 15:11.21 | TS|Skrom | and the tanks are gonna get light if I'm the only pally there |
| 15:11.30 | TS|Skrom | and if I'm not the only pally there then the other pally most likely has kings |
| 15:11.40 | Lopeppeppy | For you, no. For a raid missing a Fort buff, however.... sometimes I've had to make choices in my talents that are based on what my raid group needs, not necessarily what I want for myself. |
| 15:12.08 | Lopeppeppy | My tanks universally want Kings in 5 mans, and I like it better than Light. I have enough +heal as I stand to handle 5 man without Light. |
| 15:12.12 | TS|Skrom | see above. Light > kings for the tank with 1 pally. If only 1 pally, then most of the raid is getting salv anyway |
| 15:12.19 | TS|Skrom | I don't XD |
| 15:12.41 | TS|Skrom | yet muhaha |
| 15:12.43 | Nom- | lol you can't time the ground slam jump with 600 pings |
| 15:12.43 | Lopeppeppy | It is ridiculously easy to get, TS|Skrom. I have insane +heal without even trying. |
| 15:12.46 | Nom- | which our entire guild has |
| 15:12.52 | TS|Skrom | I'm only 59 :( |
| 15:13.06 | TS|Skrom | 24% from 60 though!! |
| 15:13.13 | Lopeppeppy | You're of the right level. Get thee to Honor Hold and start scaring the bejeezus out of the demon pigs! |
| 15:13.22 | TS|Skrom | hehe |
| 15:13.28 | TS|Skrom | I've been there since I hit 58 |
| 15:13.37 | TS|Skrom | my healing doubled, so did my healing set's armor |
| 15:13.49 | Lopeppeppy | There's great healadin quest rewards just out of HH, and Blood Furnace/Ramparts have sweet drops/quest rewards. |
| 15:14.20 | TS|Skrom | took a break last night though to do LBRS, man what a fun time that was. |
| 15:14.34 | Lopeppeppy | I like visiting the Azeroth instances, a lot. It's a hoot. |
| 15:14.36 | TS|Skrom | my 61 shammy friend was tanking |
| 15:14.57 | TS|Skrom | the two mages died a couple times, the warlock died a couple times |
| 15:14.58 | Lopeppeppy | I'm doing the 50-60 ones with my holy priest right now... Wow, is the approach different from priesting to pally healing! |
| 15:15.03 | TS|Skrom | me and the shammy? nope! |
| 15:15.19 | TS|Skrom | if they didn't assist, they got the repair bill XD |
| 15:15.22 | Lopeppeppy | Paladins don't die. We might rust into place, but we don't die. |
| 15:18.00 | Lopeppeppy | Priests go squish though. I went squish a bit more than I was used to yesterday! |
| 15:18.08 | TS|Skrom | yeah |
| 15:18.17 | TS|Skrom | and man it's a good thing you have fade because dang you need it |
| 15:18.34 | TS|Skrom | now that I've got hypnotists watch I rarely get hit period |
| 15:19.02 | Lopeppeppy | Hmm... something for me to google up! |
| 15:19.11 | TS|Skrom | http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=sVxuMguGestxGz |
| 15:20.18 | TS|Skrom | http://www.wowhead.com/?item=25786 |
| 15:20.22 | Lopeppeppy | Might be a better division between Holy and Prot. Do you use a shield or offhand item? |
| 15:20.27 | TS|Skrom | shield |
| 15:20.39 | TS|Skrom | http://www.wowhead.com/?item=29917 atm |
| 15:21.05 | Lopeppeppy | Might consider points into that, for those times that mobs like to beat at you. I do a bit of off-tanking as a holy paladin, and Redoubt has kept my butt alive too often to count. |
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| 15:21.58 | TS|Skrom | hrm, tough choice really. Personal protection or increased group mitigation |
| 15:22.04 | Lopeppeppy | Mmm-hmm. |
| 15:22.23 | TS|Skrom | i'll have to reevalute that one as I go |
| 15:22.27 | Lopeppeppy | But I'm doing a lot of group mitigation by being able to stand up when I'm asked to off-tank one of Moroe's undead buddies. |
| 15:22.31 | TS|Skrom | like I said with hypnotists I rarely get hit long |
| 15:22.45 | TS|Skrom | when I do pull aggro, pop the watch and the mobs shoot off me like a rocket |
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| 15:22.59 | Lopeppeppy | I haven't done that set of quests.... I'm a doofus, I really need to get back and finish what I skipped as I leveled. |
| 15:23.32 | Mr_Rabies2 | wow |
| 15:23.34 | Mr_Rabies2 | doofus |
| 15:23.41 | Mr_Rabies2 | that's a word i haven't seen in a while |
| 15:24.11 | Lopeppeppy | I R Ancient. Older than dirt. |
| 15:24.14 | Aella | It's a great word. At least epic. |
| 15:24.29 | Lopeppeppy | How about "vexed", I use that a lot too. |
| 15:24.40 | Aella | Lopeppeppy: you aren't old until you're older than my parents. |
| 15:25.08 | Lopeppeppy | I guarantee I'm not older than anyone's parents, unless "anyone" is 15 or younger. |
| 15:25.22 | Lopeppeppy | Or some sort of mutation/experimentation is involved. :) |
| 15:25.39 | Aella | Off by three years, I'm afraid. |
| 15:25.46 | Mr_Rabies2 | i think i may have started a grassroots campaign to get "jawesome" back into the vernacular |
| 15:25.54 | Aella | Jawesome? |
| 15:26.06 | Lopeppeppy | What inflection does the "j" bring that was lacking in the root word? |
| 15:26.06 | Mr_Rabies2 | because i'm seeing it pop up everywhere now after i decided i was going to start using it |
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| 15:26.07 | *** mode/#wowi-lounge [+v Tem|AFK] by ChanServ |
| 15:26.15 | Mr_Rabies2 | it's implying JAWS |
| 15:26.24 | Aella | Mmm, jaws |
| 15:26.25 | Lopeppeppy | Why are jaws good? |
| 15:26.35 | Mr_Rabies2 | http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=JAWESOME |
| 15:26.37 | Lopeppeppy | Or are you talking monster shark movie? 'cause that is indeed awesome! |
| 15:27.22 | Lopeppeppy | I've never heard of these "Street Sharks". I'm deficient in Pop Culture. |
| 15:27.32 | Mr_Rabies2 | it was a crappy little animated show |
| 15:27.37 | Mr_Rabies2 | that i watched like once |
| 15:27.52 | TS|Skrom | wow |
| 15:28.01 | Mr_Rabies2 | but one day i was talking to a friend and described something as jawesome half-conciously |
| 15:28.03 | TS|Skrom | 3 mana/5 and 2 healing is enough points to remove 15 sta! |
| 15:28.11 | Mr_Rabies2 | and decided it needed to be used |
| 15:28.16 | TS|Skrom | wait wait nm |
| 15:28.23 | TS|Skrom | just realized one was finger one was neck |
| 15:28.50 | Mr_Rabies2 | probably different ilvls too |
| 15:28.55 | TS|Skrom | the points allocation for items? I thought I'd found a neck with 15 sta/int, 3 mana 5 and 31 healing, and another neck with 15 int, 33 healing and 6 mana/5 |
| 15:29.02 | TS|Skrom | but one was a ring. |
| 15:29.04 | Lopeppeppy | TS|Skrom, I find Rating Buster nearly invaluable for gear comparisons... I love it. |
| 15:29.11 | TS|Skrom | yep I have it |
| 15:29.13 | Lopeppeppy | Ah... I see what you're getting at now, sorry. |
| 15:29.23 | TS|Skrom | Mr_Rabies2 didn't consider that since they were from two mobs in the same instance |
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| 15:29.40 | TS|Skrom | but now that I look closer, one is mob drop and one is quested |
| 15:29.44 | Mr_Rabies2 | what two items? |
| 15:29.51 | TS|Skrom | so there's possibility of huge difference |
| 15:30.11 | TS|Skrom | my word now I'm even more blind |
| 15:30.16 | TS|Skrom | not even the same instance |
| 15:30.18 | TS|Skrom | ./doze |
| 15:30.24 | TS|Skrom | just ignore me for the next 43.4 minutes |
| 15:30.26 | Lopeppeppy | Poor thing, needs more coffee. |
| 15:30.33 | Mr_Rabies2 | i'm pretty sure item type and itemlevel are the things that determine budget |
| 15:30.41 | Mr_Rabies2 | well, and rarity |
| 15:30.48 | TS|Skrom | it was http://www.wowhead.com/?item=25713 -- http://www.wowhead.com/?item=24096 |
| 15:31.02 | TS|Skrom | what I meant was item drops are ilvl'd usually in relation to mob level |
| 15:31.12 | TS|Skrom | so two mobs of the same level dropping same quality should have approx same ilvl |
| 15:31.17 | Lopeppeppy | Love my Holy Healing band, never got the beads. :( |
| 15:31.22 | TS|Skrom | but quest rewards don't always follow that pattern |
| 15:31.39 | TS|Skrom | a 62 mob and a 62 quest could have very different ilvl rewards |
| 15:33.27 | Nom- | o |
| 15:33.28 | Nom- | m |
| 15:33.28 | Nom- | f |
| 15:33.29 | Nom- | g |
| 15:33.31 | Aella | ? |
| 15:33.33 | Nom- | 1% on Gruul |
| 15:33.36 | Aella | Gah |
| 15:33.42 | TS|Skrom | why can't I find the outlook option to "send immediately" when send is pressed >< |
| 15:33.52 | Lopeppeppy | Because it hates you? |
| 15:34.12 | TS|Skrom | that is a very valid opinion |
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| 15:35.33 | Lopeppeppy | I've found Outlook generally hateful myself, like a spoiled toddler suddenly sent to bed early. |
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| 15:39.56 | ScytheBlade1 | Hmm - anyone know an addon that uses SendAddonMessage() to guild, with channel prefix 2, once every second, with seemingly random data? |
| 15:40.24 | [Ammo] | cartographer, position updates probably |
| 15:40.50 | ScytheBlade1 | I disabled them |
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| 15:42.51 | [Ammo] | ScytheBlade1: the seemingly random data is still carto probably |
| 15:43.22 | ScytheBlade1 | That's what I'm thinking |
| 15:43.44 | Punkie` | How did you disable it? According to ckknight there isn't an option to disable that feature |
| 15:43.53 | Punkie` | (unless you manually tear it out of the lua) |
| 15:44.10 | ScytheBlade1 | I did disable it |
| 15:44.12 | ScytheBlade1 | And then reloaded |
| 15:44.18 | Punkie` | you can only disable them being displayed from your friends, you cant disable the transmitting of your own |
| 15:45.49 | ScytheBlade1 | That's, broken |
| 15:46.14 | Punkie` | I believe it's meant to be like that |
| 15:46.49 | ScytheBlade1 | I'd be a lot happier if it didn't seemingly use a random channel prefix too. |
| 15:46.58 | ScytheBlade1 | I've seen a prefix of "2" and of "yH" so far |
| 15:56.02 | ScytheBlade1 | lol |
| 15:56.02 | ScytheBlade1 | -- disable the guild spammer till we see if we are enabled |
| 15:56.02 | ScytheBlade1 | --Cartographer:DisableGuildSpammer() |
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| 15:57.29 | ScytheBlade1 | Yeah, these bits of data are being sent once per second. Cartographer updates positions once per second |
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| 15:58.42 | GofG | Howdy |
| 15:58.52 | Lopeppeppy | Afternoon. |
| 15:59.02 | GofG | But... But.. It's 2 minutes BEFORE noon!!! |
| 15:59.29 | Valaron|Work | My clock says 9am |
| 15:59.37 | Lopeppeppy | My work clock says 12:01. |
| 15:59.40 | cogwheel|away | ~UGT |
| 15:59.41 | purl | methinks ugt is Universial Greeting Time. Created in #mipslinux, it is a rule that states that whenever somebody enters an IRC channel it is always morning, and it is always late when the person leaves. The local time of any other people in the channel, including the greeter, is irrelevant. http://www.total-knowledge.com/~ilya/mips/ugt.html |
| 15:59.43 | GofG | Your clock is incorrect then. |
| 15:59.53 | GofG | Or you live in some stupid place that isn't on the east coast. :) |
| 15:59.55 | TS|Skrom | cogwheel|away what was the one that's supposed to follow that? |
| 16:00.09 | cogwheel|away | hmm... i forget .< |
| 16:00.13 | TS|Skrom | yeah :-/ |
| 16:00.15 | Lopeppeppy | I can like UGT. I *usually* say good morning no matter what. |
| 16:00.17 | cogwheel|away | s/.</></ |
| 16:00.35 | GofG | Woah |
| 16:00.47 | GofG | Purl is like... teh f4st tipest |
| 16:00.51 | GofG | Or a bot |
| 16:01.04 | TS|Skrom | You're new aren't you. |
| 16:01.17 | GofG | I am, in fact, new. |
| 16:01.26 | TS|Skrom | Welcome to the channel. |
| 16:01.30 | GofG | Why thanks |
| 16:01.36 | Lopeppeppy | GofG, meet purlbot. purlbot, meet GofG. |
| 16:01.45 | GofG | HOWDY PURLBOT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
| 16:01.53 | End | ~hi |
| 16:01.54 | purl | hello, end |
| 16:01.54 | Lopeppeppy | See? New friends already. |
| 16:01.54 | TS|Skrom | Inside voices, please |
| 16:01.57 | GofG | Oh |
| 16:01.58 | GofG | !hi |
| 16:02.08 | GofG | He doesn't like me |
| 16:02.17 | GofG | or my tilde key is broken |
| 16:02.17 | End | :( |
| 16:02.33 | Valaron|Work | ~hello |
| 16:02.34 | purl | Howdy Bub |
| 16:02.35 | GofG | What did I ever do wrong? |
| 16:02.56 | GofG | Omigod, he can't say howdy, that's my word (and the word of everyone who lives south of the mason dixon line) |
| 16:03.07 | GofG | and now I hunger for sweet tea. |
| 16:03.21 | Lopeppeppy | Lunchtime is. |
| 16:03.36 | End | Is it a ravenous hunger? |
| 16:04.20 | Gofgbookpro|afk | Why it's as ravenous as a bunch of hippies at a wood...stock |
| 16:05.25 | GofG | Ahhh, that's much better |
| 16:05.39 | GofG | ~hi |
| 16:05.40 | purl | hello, gofg |
| 16:05.42 | GofG | Yes! |
| 16:06.02 | GofG | ~whatsup |
| 16:06.02 | purl | Yo gofg, how's it going eh? |
| 16:06.02 | Lopeppeppy | perhaps purl is programmed to sometimes respond with stony silence, like anyone might do. |
| 16:06.14 | GofG | Actually, I got the following PM after I said it: |
| 16:06.16 | *** join/#wowi-lounge Nickenyfiken (n=najklord@83.145.59.23) |
| 16:06.24 | GofG | <purl> Someone already said that 7 seconds ago |
| 16:06.31 | GofG | the first time |
| 16:06.34 | Lopeppeppy | Time based. |
| 16:06.36 | GofG | I suppose it's an anti-spam maneuver |
| 16:06.45 | Lopeppeppy | Purl needs to rest sometimes too. |
| 16:06.57 | GofG | He's like the Doctor on STV |
| 16:06.59 | cog|work | purl, you suck |
| 16:07.00 | purl | and very well I might add |
| 16:07.09 | GofG | Wow. |
| 16:07.12 | TS|Skrom | Purl must use duracell instead of energizer |
| 16:07.20 | cog|work | <.< |
| 16:07.21 | Lopeppeppy | Recharable is the way to go. |
| 16:07.28 | GofG | Recharable? |
| 16:07.34 | GofG | As in, you can char it once |
| 16:07.45 | GofG | and then when it's done being charred, it can be recharred? :) |
| 16:08.10 | GofG | Let's see... |
| 16:08.21 | GofG | May I spend the next 25 lines figuring out what purl can do? |
| 16:08.35 | Thrae | ~purl |
| 16:08.40 | GofG | That's no fun |
| 16:08.56 | Thrae | ~bot |
| 16:08.56 | purl | I ain't no stinkin' bot. I am a finely tuned and hand crafted tool. Oh wait... I guess I am a bot (that you should not abuse). |
| 16:09.13 | GofG | It's much more fun to write a script that will rapidly enter every possible combination of letters and numbers to see what he responds to. |
| 16:09.20 | Thrae | ~triggers |
| 16:09.31 | Thrae | OK, I give up. |
| 16:09.35 | GofG | !help |
| 16:09.37 | GofG | ~help |
| 16:09.47 | GofG | Why doesn't he use the exclamation point? I'm so used to the exclamation point |
| 16:10.09 | GofG | Wow |
| 16:10.16 | GofG | ~help is extremely unuseful :) |
| 16:10.33 | TS|Skrom | Lopeppeppy if you don't have the item info on your tooltips... what's the use of using the addon? I mean where else does the info show up? |
| 16:10.51 | Lopeppeppy | I think I misunderstood his question a bit, on reflex. |
| 16:11.12 | Lopeppeppy | Now I have to go load up a toon and see what it *does* show me, 'cause I might have Dr. Damage all mixed up in my mind. |
| 16:11.17 | Lopeppeppy | This is what happens when you get all senile. |
| 16:11.36 | TS|Skrom | GofG purl responds to /msg's |
| 16:11.40 | TS|Skrom | do your testing there |
| 16:11.50 | GofG | Oh, okay |
| 16:12.00 | Nom- | 4% |
| 16:12.05 | Nom- | blah so close! |
| 16:12.27 | zenzelezz | 4%? |
| 16:12.50 | TS|Skrom | 10[10:33] Nom-: 1% on Gruul01 |
| 16:15.43 | GofG | LOL |
| 16:15.46 | GofG | Watch |
| 16:15.50 | GofG | Where is Wikipedia? |
| 16:15.58 | TS|Skrom | on the interweb |
| 16:16.01 | GofG | Blah |
| 16:16.04 | GofG | Come on, purl |
| 16:16.04 | GofG | answer |
| 16:16.12 | zenzelezz | ~where is wikipedia |
| 16:16.13 | purl | zenzelezz: what are you talking about? |
| 16:16.13 | TS|Skrom | you have to get her attention , ~ |
| 16:16.23 | GofG | Ah |
| 16:16.25 | GofG | Blah |
| 16:16.48 | GofG | I got "What are you talking about?" then on line two, "I couldn't find a matching article for Wikipedia in Wikipedia. Search yourself." |
| 16:17.26 | Lopeppeppy | Huh... why doesn't Rating Buster look the same on my bank alt as on my main.... |
| 16:17.42 | TS|Skrom | I believe it pulls different datas based on class |
| 16:17.52 | Valaron|Work | Yes |
| 16:17.54 | TS|Skrom | i.e, doesn't show summaries of mana gained for a rogue |
| 16:17.56 | Valaron|Work | That is correct. |
| 16:18.01 | GofG | So can you guys suggest some awesome WoW addons that I should use? |
| 16:18.17 | TS|Skrom | Anythign by the skrom guy, he's dreamy <3 |
| 16:18.20 | GofG | Already have the auctioneer suite and titan panel and Atlas |
| 16:18.22 | Valaron|Work | What awesome factor are you looking for? |
| 16:18.31 | TS|Skrom | around 7.2 |
| 16:18.35 | GofG | An awesome factor of 10 |
| 16:18.57 | GofG | Warp factor 10!!! Go!! Oh no! We're traveling at infinite speed! Auugh!! Evolution problems! |
| 16:19.02 | cog|work | awesome big & does everything, or awesome small and does a single task well? |
| 16:19.17 | GofG | Awesome big and does a single task well. |
| 16:19.20 | TS|Skrom | I believe you meant ludicrous speed |
| 16:19.37 | GofG | Haha, you obviously aren't a ST:Voy van |
| 16:19.39 | GofG | fan* |
| 16:19.44 | TS|Skrom | no |
| 16:19.51 | TS|Skrom | janeway can diaf |
| 16:20.36 | TS|Skrom | Hey Lopeppeppy, he "googled it" and found what he needed. |
| 16:20.38 | TS|Skrom | die in a fire |
| 16:20.40 | GofG | oh |
| 16:20.48 | TS|Skrom | ./palmface |
| 16:20.56 | TS|Skrom | why didn't you do that in the first place you putz >< |
| 16:20.58 | Valaron|Work | Just a 7of9 fan. |
| 16:21.03 | Lopeppeppy | TS|Skrom -- it was the greys my bank alt was wearing. Apparently those aren't worthy of figuring out by Rating Buster. :) |
| 16:21.24 | GofG | I've seen every single episode of every star trek series except the last episode of voyager :( |
| 16:21.32 | Valaron|Work | Endgame? |
| 16:21.40 | TS|Skrom | lol |
| 16:21.43 | GofG | Whatever it is, yeah |
| 16:21.45 | TS|Skrom | greys don't have stats though :p |
| 16:22.05 | GofG | I hate you, wikipedia |
| 16:22.18 | Valaron|Work | http://www.mininova.org/det/763983 |
| 16:22.35 | Valaron|Work | Err.. http://www.mininova.org/tor/763983 instead |
| 16:22.36 | Lopeppeppy | Exactly, TS|Skrom. |
| 16:22.43 | GofG | Dude, memory alpha is where it's at :) |
| 16:22.57 | Valaron|Work | Memory alpha, eh? |
| 16:23.05 | GofG | Hehe yeah |
| 16:23.10 | GofG | www.memory-alpha.org |
| 16:23.26 | GofG | Largest star trek wikipedia ev4r |
| 16:23.52 | GofG | Err... Encyclopedia that is a wiki |
| 16:23.52 | GofG | not a wikipedia |
| 16:23.52 | TS|Skrom | Where's |Jelly| at. Some newbs need to be pwnt |
| 16:23.52 | GofG | Surely you jest |
| 16:24.53 | GofG | I FOUND IT |
| 16:25.07 | Lopeppeppy | Newbs are lunch? |
| 16:25.19 | GofG | :Endgame is the title of the [[series finale]] of the [[Star Trek]] spinoff series, [[Star Trek: Voyager]]. |
| 16:25.23 | GofG | Woot. |
| 16:25.26 | Valaron|Work | That's what I said. |
| 16:25.36 | GofG | I know |
| 16:25.38 | GofG | But I found it on wikipedia |
| 16:25.42 | GofG | using my trusty Wikilink addon |
| 16:25.46 | krka | gah... how do i get better glxgears fps? |
| 16:25.55 | Lopeppeppy | That.... makes it somehow better, GofG? |
| 16:25.58 | krka | anyone want to share xorg conf? |
| 16:25.58 | GofG | by typing "/wp Endgame (Star Trek: Voyager) |
| 16:26.03 | krka | or which nvidia driver they're using |
| 16:26.10 | GofG | Yes, it makes it better like... like... like a warm bath makes a day better |
| 16:26.16 | Lopeppeppy | Sure. |
| 16:27.35 | TS|Skrom | An older man was very ill and in the hospital. His son came to visit him one day. Suddenly the man began to breathe heavily, grabbed a pen and paper, jotted a note down, dropped the note, then dropped dead. Overcome with grief the son didn't even remember putting the note in his pocket. While standing at the funeral he reached into his pocket and felt the note. Hurridly he pulled it out, excited that he might have some last words of hi |
| 16:27.53 | TS|Skrom | YOU WANKER -- GET OFF MY OXYGEN TUBE! |
| 16:28.13 | GofG | LOL |
| 16:28.18 | Lopeppeppy | yup, I've had those days, TS|Skrom. |
| 16:28.37 | GofG | Three blondes are walking in a forest |
| 16:28.50 | GofG | They realize they are lost, but they come across some tracks |
| 16:29.01 | GofG | the first blonde says "Oh, look, we can follow these deer tracks out of the forest!" |
| 16:29.08 | Valaron|Work | What I've noticed about Voyager episodes is that a lot of them involve some sort of time-space event. Time travelling, etc. Endgame is such an episode. |
| 16:29.09 | Lopeppeppy | I HATE disabled text search. |
| 16:29.26 | GofG | The second blonde says "No, no, no, you idiot, you fool, those are rabbit tracks. But we can still follow them out of the forrest!" |
| 16:29.48 | Valaron|Work | Then again, final episode of TNG was a time traveling one, too. |
| 16:29.54 | GofG | The third blonde, smarter than the other two, says, "No, no, you two are both so stupid. THey are horse tracks! We can follow them and then ride the horse out of the forrest!" |
| 16:30.04 | GofG | After following the tracks for 10 or so minutes, they get run over by a train. |
| 16:30.06 | Thrae | Valaron|Work: Well, the show started with a huge space-time warp, why not end with one? The only way they can get back home is by seriously warping space & time anyway ;) |
| 16:30.08 | TS|Skrom | They were still arguing about it when the train hit them. |
| 16:30.15 | End | haha |
| 16:30.34 | GofG | I like your ending better, Skrom. The wording is funnier. |
| 16:33.39 | TS|Skrom | http://hotair.com/archives/2007/06/25/islamic-rts-game-on-the-way/ |
| 16:34.28 | GofG | How many elephants will fit in a mini? |
| 16:34.56 | GofG | Four. Driver, passenger, two backseats. |
| 16:35.02 | GofG | How many giraffes will fit in a mini? |
| 16:35.28 | GofG | None. It's stuffed full of elephants. |
| 16:35.46 | GofG | How do you know if there are two elephants in your refridgerator? |
| 16:35.56 | GofG | There's giggling when the light goes out. |
| 16:36.13 | GofG | How do you know if there are 3 elephants in your refrigerator? |
| 16:36.25 | GofG | You can't close the door. |
| 16:36.33 | GofG | How do you know if there are 4 elephants in your refridgerator? |
| 16:36.44 | GofG | The mini is parked outside. |
| 16:37.16 | TS|Skrom | mah branes jus' sploded |
| 16:37.36 | End | How do you know if there are giraffes in your fridge though? |
| 16:37.37 | GofG | LOL |
| 16:37.44 | End | They took alternate transporation |
| 16:37.49 | End | :( |
| 16:37.49 | GofG | End: You open the door, look, and close the door. |
| 16:38.32 | GofG | May I tell a politics joke? |
| 16:39.06 | GofG | Yes, you may, Gofg. |
| 16:39.07 | GofG | Good. |
| 16:39.51 | TS|Skrom | you can't give yourself permission >< |
| 16:39.51 | TS|Skrom | that's cheatin' |
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| 16:40.19 | GofG | So, George W. Bush is in a cabinet meeting, when two aids come up to him and say, "Sir, three hundred Brazilian soldiers died in Iraq today. Brazil officials are outraged. Bush just starts crying, and crying, and minutes go by, and he's just crying and crying. His cabinet looks around at each other, and are like "Well... yeah, maybe I could see him being this distressed" but they don't say anything. |
| 16:40.35 | GofG | Finally, Bush looks up at the aids and asks, "How many is a Brazilian?" |
| 16:41.00 | TS|Skrom | ba dum bum |
| 16:41.51 | GofG | I thought it was pretty good |
| 16:43.03 | Lopeppeppy | Sure. |
| 16:43.12 | Valaron|Work | I feel like I'm reading bash.org. |
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| 16:44.34 | TS|Skrom | *posts his log up on bash.org* |
| 16:44.39 | GofG | can you guys read what i type? |
| 16:44.40 | TS|Skrom | now you ARE! muhahha |
| 16:44.43 | Lopeppeppy | Never been there, I should go see. |
| 16:44.54 | sag_ich_nicht | GofG no |
| 16:45.01 | GofG | how do i make it so you can read what i type? |
| 16:45.22 | sag_ich_nicht | we only see strange runes that are completely undecipherable |
| 16:45.45 | GofG | You ruined it :D |
| 16:46.15 | sag_ich_nicht | It's what I'm best at. |
| 16:46.49 | TS|Skrom | I've often been told that you only can do what you know how to do well. |
| 16:47.44 | Lopeppeppy | And you should always be like yourself. |
| 16:48.02 | TS|Skrom | You know I'm having a wonderful time... |
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| 16:48.30 | Lopeppeppy | whistling in the dark? |
| 16:48.53 | TS|Skrom | gratuitous TMBG references ftw |
| 16:49.57 | Lopeppeppy | Mostly. *hugs* |
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| 17:07.41 | Nom- | We finally got Gruul |
| 17:07.49 | TS|Skrom | gratz |
| 17:08.03 | Nom- | Required 3 respecs :) |
| 17:08.23 | Nom- | I went Retribution instead of Holy, one of our warriors went arms, and warlock went..something...i dunno warlock specs :) |
| 17:09.23 | Nom- | What a pain in the butt that fight is though |
| 17:09.36 | Lopeppeppy | Destruction? Demonology? Affliction? Those are the warlock trees. |
| 17:09.51 | Nom- | Umm, he dropped the improved health stone |
| 17:09.55 | Nom- | that's all i know :) |
| 17:10.00 | TS|Skrom | lol |
| 17:10.02 | Lopeppeppy | Grats on kicking his butt, Nom-. |
| 17:10.10 | TS|Skrom | that's 2 points at the first tier of a tree |
| 17:12.48 | krka | wtf http://forums.wow-europe.com/thread.html?topicId=286873872&sid=1&pageNo=25 |
| 17:12.56 | krka | is that what's screwed me? |
| 17:15.17 | Nom- | Well we onyl needed a few more % dps |
| 17:15.39 | Nom- | So retnoob added 3-4% dps to the entire raid |
| 17:15.54 | Nom- | plus warrior respec |
| 17:16.08 | Nom- | DPS was the only real problem...it's a real race against the clock :/ |
| 17:19.14 | Lopeppeppy | DPS seems to be key from what little we've done in there, ya. |
| 17:20.30 | Lopeppeppy | krka... not sure. Are you saying that you have a GE card, and that might be what's messing your FPS? |
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| 17:24.06 | krka | yes |
| 17:25.13 | Lopeppeppy | I have NVIDIA, and I get sucky FPS in Outlands cities... GE might be a large culprit, but it's not the only suspect, sadly. I think it's an organized gang stealing our game enjoyment. |
| 17:28.41 | Valaron|Work | im in ur compootor, stealin ur fps |
| 17:29.20 | Lopeppeppy | Pretty much, Valaron|Work. LolCats have a picture for everything. |
| 17:31.01 | Jumpee | Does EnumerateFrames() find all visible frames on the WoW screen? |
| 17:33.05 | krka | all frames period |
| 17:33.34 | Jumpee | krka - thanks |
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| 18:10.22 | kahdgarxi | ckknight: <3 |
| 18:10.28 | kahdgarxi | Thanks for fixing AceComm xD |
| 18:10.42 | ckknight | pshaw, I'm at least 3, maybe even 4. |
| 18:10.59 | ckknight | ;-) |
| 18:11.25 | krka | That's so funny. |
| 18:11.29 | ckknight | all in all, AceComm uses about half the CPU and half the memory as it did before, which is a definite win. |
| 18:11.56 | ckknight | sarcasm, krka? |
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| 18:12.20 | GofG | hehe ckknight. There's a guild on my server called the Crimson Knights, and so you would be the Crimson Knights Knight. :) |
| 18:12.48 | ckknight | ...lol, okay |
| 18:12.52 | GofG | lol sorry |
| 18:12.58 | kahdgarxi | lol |
| 18:13.05 | krka | it was a scrubs reference |
| 18:13.27 | kahdgarxi | ckknight: I was just getting ready to start using dkpmon for my guild, and acecom borked the syncing on it. |
| 18:13.37 | ckknight | I've prepared a statement: |
| 18:13.40 | ckknight | "my bad" |
| 18:13.43 | kahdgarxi | heh |
| 18:13.51 | kahdgarxi | it's okay, you fixed it already |
| 18:14.09 | kahdgarxi | i was afraid we weren't gonna have it ready for tonight's raid >< |
| 18:14.33 | kahdgarxi | So, yeah. Thanks. |
| 18:15.18 | Lopeppeppy | More crashes make Peppy an unhappy gnome. Tech Support is about to feel the sharp side of my Redhead Wrath. |
| 18:17.56 | kahdgarxi | Delete you WTF, Interface, and Cache folders. |
| 18:17.57 | kahdgarxi | :P |
| 18:18.00 | kahdgarxi | Thjat |
| 18:18.05 | kahdgarxi | That's all they're gonna say. |
| 18:18.20 | Lopeppeppy | Done. Done. And Done. *sigh* |
| 18:18.35 | kahdgarxi | :O |
| 18:18.56 | kahdgarxi | I'd sooner give them my firstborn than delete those... It would take so long to bet my interface set back up. >_< |
| 18:19.16 | GofG | Gasp |
| 18:19.45 | Valaron|Work | Firstborn? |
| 18:19.49 | Valaron|Work | You can always make more. |
| 18:19.50 | Lopeppeppy | At this point, my crashes are bombing my Saved Variables anyway. It's no trouble at all to delete them, really. |
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| 18:25.46 | GofG | :( youtube takes too long |
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| 18:25.59 | GofG | I've been uploading a 30MB vid for about 30 minutes now |
| 18:27.10 | Lopeppeppy | Check your connection to it, net traffic, that sort of thing? |
| 18:27.18 | GofG | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:29.51 | Lopeppeppy | *sigh* It's totally Shattrath.... *grumps, stops bothering* |
| 18:30.24 | GofG | WB, Kaelten |
| 18:32.00 | GofG | Kaelten doesn't like me. :( |
| 18:32.07 | Kaelten | hi |
| 18:32.40 | Josh_Borke | wb Kaelten! |
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| 19:04.25 | Lopeppeppy | Stay good, Kiki, I'm going to go swear at chipsets and BIOS and related scary objects. |
| 19:05.09 | [dRaCo] | yay, gruul down. |
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| 19:05.43 | Josh_Borke | grats! |
| 19:07.23 | zenzelezz | grats |
| 19:09.23 | Peoii | Grats Draco |
| 19:09.31 | Peoii | ugh... |
| 19:09.40 | Peoii | I havn't looked at the frost tree in so long :/ |
| 19:10.20 | Peoii | well, in a serious fashion atleast. |
| 19:15.27 | [dRaCo] | thanks :) |
| 19:20.44 | zenzelezz | gife epixx |
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| 20:28.25 | Shirik | ~~~~~~~~ |
| 20:28.26 | purl | You know, this got old a long time ago. |
| 20:28.31 | Shirik | ~~~~~~~~~ |
| 20:28.32 | purl | I'm ignoring you now. |
| 20:28.45 | Shirik | ~~~~~~~~~~ |
| 20:28.47 | Shirik | purl is awesome |
| 20:29.23 | |Jelly| | Purl loves you, Shirik. |
| 20:30.00 | Shirik | I am so happy |
| 20:30.03 | Shirik | back on my dual screen setup |
| 20:30.06 | Shirik | <3 |
| 20:31.21 | |Jelly| | I don't know what I would do without mine. |
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| 20:36.04 | zenzelezz | "[1. General] [...]: For All those that enjoy music while playing wow...u can now send ingame mail to me and get the all new WoW_Mp3 v.1 u can have with that a playilist button on your minimap ...<<<NO MORE ALT+TAB>free of charge just send your email so i can send u the addon" |
| 20:38.41 | sag_ich_nicht | lol |
| 20:39.40 | Gryphen | lol |
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| 20:40.38 | pastamancer | aww, why'd you edit out the name |
| 20:41.28 | zenzelezz | if you don't know my server you risk confusing the person with someone else |
| 20:41.41 | amro | does anyone ever actually use ♪? or the other useless symbols in ASCII? |
| 20:42.42 | Shirik | yes why? |
| 20:42.47 | Shirik | and why would you call them useless :P |
| 20:42.58 | Shirik | and technically those aren't standard ASCII |
| 20:43.02 | pastamancer | they're not useless |
| 20:43.08 | Shirik | those are an extended character set |
| 20:44.01 | amro | Shirik: I've never seen them in use |
| 20:44.31 | Shirik | obviously they have very limited uses |
| 20:44.35 | Shirik | but they have a purpose, otherwise they wouldn't exist :) |
| 20:44.37 | zenzelezz | that doesn't mean they aren't used amro |
| 20:44.54 | |Jelly| | There needs to be a dictionary addon, somewhat like irc scripts. |
| 20:44.59 | amro | I'm wondering what that purpose is |
| 20:45.04 | Shirik | ~define purpose |
| 20:45.04 | purl | Use ~dict for definitions. |
| 20:45.05 | subbawt | hmm I need a really light weight bar mod (all i really want it for is showing the pet bar, i don't use any action bars) |
| 20:45.08 | Shirik | ~dict purpose |
| 20:45.26 | Shirik | oh addon |
| 20:45.50 | Shirik | the database would be huge.. |
| 20:46.05 | |Jelly| | i know |
| 20:46.09 | amro | Who cares? Addons don't eat up enough memory |
| 20:46.13 | amro | =P |
| 20:48.09 | zenzelezz | all right, nub hunter question... does Trueshot Aura replace Aspects or coexist? |
| 20:48.16 | zenzelezz | never tried the MM tree |
| 20:48.20 | Shirik | coexist |
| 20:49.31 | TS|Skrom | Shirik What do you have for your dual screen? |
| 20:49.34 | TS|Skrom | vid card wise? |
| 20:49.39 | Shirik | 7800gt |
| 20:49.46 | TS|Skrom | so one card? |
| 20:49.47 | Shirik | I need to get a second |
| 20:49.48 | Shirik | ya |
| 20:49.50 | TS|Skrom | what outputs? |
| 20:49.58 | Shirik | both dvi |
| 20:50.03 | TS|Skrom | ahh |
| 20:51.21 | TS|Skrom | anyone else running dual screen? say with a crt and an s-video? |
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| 20:53.09 | zenzelezz | two LCDs, one native VGA, one through DVI->VGA converter |
| 20:54.28 | TS|Skrom | I've got an nvidia card with a vga and an s-video and want to run dual screens. I can't seem to find a converter for that (don't even know if it's possible) |
| 20:54.44 | TS|Skrom | I find all sorts to go the other way (s-video female, crt male) |
| 20:55.26 | Shirik | svideo is horrible |
| 20:55.30 | Shirik | very |
| 20:55.31 | zenzelezz | so I want to try a slightly different spec for my hunter; mostly use her for farming, but can picture trying out some PvP or just instances also... can't decide on http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=mVbGzgMRZVVbRyzMeo vs. http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=VVbGzgMRZZ0GhGkfouVub |
| 20:55.37 | Shirik | when I tried to run off it, it was just omg make my eyes hurt |
| 20:55.41 | zenzelezz | my gear sucks for both of them I think, but that can be fixed |
| 20:55.51 | TS|Skrom | Shirik was this general desktop or 3d or everything? |
| 20:56.00 | Shirik | everything |
| 20:56.05 | TS|Skrom | damnit |
| 20:56.10 | Shirik | mostly because of the resolution |
| 20:56.15 | TS|Skrom | I'd never considered dual setup before |
| 20:56.24 | Shirik | you won't get a decent resolution out of svideo |
| 20:56.27 | TS|Skrom | and if I'd thought of it I'd have gotten a different video card to start with |
| 20:56.34 | TS|Skrom | *sigh* |
| 20:56.50 | zenzelezz | video cards aren't too expensive now if you don't go top of the line |
| 20:57.06 | zenzelezz | my 9800 Pro is starting to age, but still works |
| 20:57.25 | kaiden | hel even right under top of the line is cheap these days, i bought a 7950 GTOC card the other day for 159 dollars at the store |
| 20:57.31 | TS|Skrom | granted, but dual screen isn't a necessity for my computer use so I can't really justify it :-/ |
| 20:57.42 | TS|Skrom | not til I get my new job (cross fingers) |
| 20:57.51 | zenzelezz | trust me, once you get used to dual screen you will hate yourself for not doing it sooner |
| 20:58.43 | TS|Skrom | this wouldn't be a problem but I tried adding a second video card to my system and couldn't get it to not crash |
| 20:58.58 | TS|Skrom | I guess most systems can't handle a PCI video card and a non PCI at once? |
| 20:59.09 | sag_ich_nicht | uh |
| 20:59.11 | sag_ich_nicht | they can |
| 20:59.14 | sag_ich_nicht | works fine |
| 20:59.15 | TS|Skrom | hrm. |
| 20:59.15 | zenzelezz | they should work just fine |
| 20:59.19 | TS|Skrom | not on my dell xps 400 |
| 20:59.26 | zenzelezz | but it's still easier and better to get a single videocard that runs both |
| 20:59.30 | TS|Skrom | there was a bios switch to use either ... I think it was pcg or peg |
| 20:59.32 | TS|Skrom | or use the pci |
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| 20:59.48 | TS|Skrom | when i switched to the pci it would load but the other would turn off, and vice verse |
| 20:59.48 | sag_ich_nicht | TS|Skrom: it's for which to try init first |
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| 20:59.54 | zenzelezz | only setting in my BIOS is "Init Display First", ie. "which one is the main?" |
| 20:59.57 | TS|Skrom | and no matter what it would blue screen on system load |
| 21:00.21 | sag_ich_nicht | TS|Skrom when installing an addition videocard you will have to remove all drivers for your current one |
| 21:00.24 | TS|Skrom | er os load iI mean |
| 21:00.31 | sag_ich_nicht | just like when you change cards completely |
| 21:00.40 | zenzelezz | shame you don't seem to be .no Skrom, I'd send you one of my spare 9800s :-p |
| 21:00.54 | TS|Skrom | seem to be what? lol |
| 21:01.12 | TS|Skrom | sag_ich_nicht would not removing the drivers cause the blue screens? |
| 21:01.18 | zenzelezz | Norwegian :-p |
| 21:01.22 | TS|Skrom | ahh |
| 21:02.28 | sag_ich_nicht | TS|Skrom: possibly, yes |
| 21:02.56 | TS|Skrom | okay so lemme see if I can ponder this out. |
| 21:03.31 | TS|Skrom | The bios setting is which one to load first. With no dirvers installed, both cards in the machine, the PCE one set to load first, the system will hopefully boot to windows. then I install drivers for both cards, reboot and both should be active. |
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| 21:06.04 | sag_ich_nicht | TS|Skrom: yes. both nvidia cards or one ati one nvidia? |
| 21:06.07 | sag_ich_nicht | or both ati |
| 21:06.09 | sag_ich_nicht | what ever |
| 21:06.10 | sag_ich_nicht | :O |
| 21:06.43 | TS|Skrom | welll.... hehe I don't actually know what the second one is yet |
| 21:06.54 | TS|Skrom | it's an old card I found in a computer I'd leant to my brother |
| 21:07.02 | sag_ich_nicht | lol. |
| 21:07.08 | TS|Skrom | he upgraded the card at one point but I could't find any lables on it |
| 21:07.23 | TS|Skrom | all I want to use it for is desktop |
| 21:07.27 | TS|Skrom | no gaming |
| 21:07.47 | TS|Skrom | if that's possible with two cards, I don't really know how that all works yet XD |
| 21:08.12 | TS|Skrom | wasn't sure if they mirrored each other or if you can expand the desktop across both |
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| 21:08.37 | sag_ich_nicht | you should be able to extend the desktop |
| 21:08.40 | TS|Skrom | figured I'd just try it and find out XD |
| 21:12.59 | TS|Skrom | waiiiiit a second |
| 21:13.12 | TS|Skrom | I just pulled up my 1.5 year old order details for the dell system |
| 21:13.23 | TS|Skrom | my video card line reads: 256MB PCI Express x16 (DVI/VGA/TV-out) nVidia GeForce 6800 |
| 21:13.37 | sag_ich_nicht | uh |
| 21:13.39 | TS|Skrom | apparently I'm either blind or they lied |
| 21:13.39 | sag_ich_nicht | you could just |
| 21:13.41 | sag_ich_nicht | you know |
| 21:13.45 | sag_ich_nicht | get a DVI-->VGA adapter |
| 21:13.49 | sag_ich_nicht | or a reverse adapter |
| 21:13.51 | sag_ich_nicht | depending on what you do |
| 21:13.52 | sag_ich_nicht | :P |
| 21:13.59 | TS|Skrom | yeah... that's the thing I don't recall ever seeing a dvi out XD |
| 21:14.10 | TS|Skrom | so I'm apparently freakin' blind XD |
| 21:15.51 | TS|Skrom | and to think that all this pondering might just be solved by a 12$ adapter http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp?skuId=7960986&st=vga+to+dvi&type=product&id=1153336299169 |
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| 21:22.36 | Valaron|Work | What kind of Dell do you have? |
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| 21:23.08 | TS|Skrom | WoW qusetiont ime: Warrior talent in arms tree, weapon master. Increases chance to resist disarm attempts by an additional 50/100%. Does that mean that if you base if 5% to resist it's now 10% or does it make you immune. |
| 21:23.14 | TS|Skrom | it's an XPS 400 system |
| 21:23.53 | Valaron|Work | 100% of 5% is 10%. |
| 21:24.14 | Valaron|Work | .05+(.05x1.00) |
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| 21:24.36 | Shirik | uh |
| 21:24.36 | Shirik | no |
| 21:24.42 | |Jelly| | Are the forums going to be forever retarded now or something? |
| 21:24.42 | Shirik | 100% more |
| 21:24.43 | Shirik | is 10% |
| 21:24.48 | Shirik | 100% of 5% is 0.05 |
| 21:25.23 | Bleeter | |Jelly|: have you ever noticed... the forums are always retarded when you're around? |
| 21:25.30 | Shirik | ow |
| 21:25.31 | Bleeter | I think there's something in that for all of us ;) :P |
| 21:25.54 | Valaron|Work | Sorry, Shirik.. that's what I meant. Hence the math. |
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| 21:36.33 | foxlit | And Leo died. |
| 21:39.45 | zenzelezz | grats |
| 21:40.41 | TS|Skrom | well what i was asking essentially was, does it increase some base chance to resist disarm or does it make you immune, I wasn't exactly sure on the wording |
| 21:41.09 | zenzelezz | it's immunity |
| 21:41.20 | zenzelezz | if you mean the 30-something point talent |
| 21:41.27 | TS|Skrom | yeah weapon mastery |
| 21:42.22 | TS|Skrom | if you take the paladin talent Pure of Heart it "increases your resistance to curse and disease effects by 5/10/15% |
| 21:43.08 | TS|Skrom | the weapon mastery says it increases the chance to resist by an additional 50/100% |
| 21:44.16 | TS|Skrom | so we've got one vote for immunity? |
| 21:44.20 | zenzelezz | talent wording sucks sometimes; but for Weapon Mastery it's base + (50/100) %, not (base * [1.5 or 2])% |
| 21:44.35 | zenzelezz | unlike Improved Overpower :-/ |
| 21:44.50 | zenzelezz | IO still rocks, but 100% crit would be sweeeet |
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| 21:45.01 | TS|Skrom | yeah, so the talent mimics weapon chains and stronghold gauntlets? |
| 21:45.14 | TS|Skrom | or is 105% chance to resist (for example) not the same as immune |
| 21:45.25 | zenzelezz | yes, it's essentially a weapon chain |
| 21:45.53 | zenzelezz | well, could be "105%" as you say, but the effect ought to be just about the same to my understanding |
| 21:46.24 | TS|Skrom | well I'm just basing that 300 atk skill compared to 300 defense has a base 5% chance to resist (at least thats what I thought I remembered XD) |
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| 22:07.42 | Antiarc|Work | There's no disarm resist |
| 22:07.52 | Antiarc|Work | Only talents/immunity effects |
| 22:08.03 | Antiarc|Work | <-- combat rogue, uses riposte all day long =) |
| 22:08.22 | zenzelezz | no "special" disarm resist, but it can be resisted without talents or immunity |
| 22:08.33 | Antiarc|Work | wouldn't that be a "miss" or something? |
| 22:08.35 | zenzelezz | or was it dodge/parry... |
| 22:08.53 | zenzelezz | I just know you can avoid it without being immune |
| 22:08.56 | Antiarc|Work | You can increase dodge/parry, but in three years I have never, ever seen a disarm be resisted. |
| 22:09.21 | zenzelezz | my combat text flies by too fast, it's probably parry/dodge |
| 22:09.38 | TS|Skrom | well it's physical Antiarc|Work |
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| 22:10.01 | TS|Skrom | so yeah not "resisted" but dodged, parried or missed would be about the same meaning :-) |
| 22:10.11 | Antiarc|Work | well, yeah |
| 22:10.16 | Antiarc|Work | But that applies to all incoming attacks |
| 22:10.19 | TS|Skrom | and that's still a base 5% on even weapon/defense skills right? |
| 22:11.09 | TS|Skrom | right, so my original question was, is the increase in % chance to "resist" disarm effects (their words, not mine) an increase of the default base or is it immunity. |
| 22:11.25 | Antiarc|Work | It's immunity |
| 22:11.27 | TS|Skrom | been pointed out by zenz that it's immunity (no source given but for now I trust him ;-) |
| 22:11.33 | zenzelezz | the key word in the tooltip is "additional" I believe |
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| 23:41.21 | zenzelezz | I miss Sprocket... don't suppose anyone knows something like it that works in combat? |
| 23:42.31 | JoshBorke | no. wobin is slacking and hasn't written splut |
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| 23:45.22 | zenzelezz | :-| |
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