| 00:00.04 | tardmrr | but that boss sucks so hard |
| 00:00.05 | Mr_Rabies2 | because the turtle is HUGE at first |
| 00:00.12 | Mr_Rabies2 | and has that stupid turtle grin |
| 00:00.17 | zenzelezz | turtle was the hydra in ZG? |
| 00:00.20 | tardmrr | yeah |
| 00:00.25 | tardmrr | the summoned fish boss |
| 00:00.31 | tardmrr | massive suckage |
| 00:00.37 | zenzelezz | easy enough to farm for it if you really want it though |
| 00:00.41 | tardmrr | no good loot, fight was easy, but a pita |
| 00:01.01 | tardmrr | I want the raptor mount so bad |
| 00:01.10 | Bleeter | and that's the prob with 70's doing old instances. poor loot, bugger all payoff |
| 00:01.12 | zenzelezz | hehe |
| 00:01.12 | Lunessa | Yeah, I should just get off my duff and do it, but I'm leveling the shaman forst. |
| 00:01.30 | Corrodias | uh oh, we're only one person short of having the second kara group full |
| 00:01.39 | Corrodias | i might have to wait until after the raid to mess with addons! boo hoo! |
| 00:02.35 | zenzelezz | some guy on my server ran minimal ZGs not long ago, offering 3k to everyone in the group if the mount dropped (he'd of course get it) |
| 00:02.55 | tardmrr | wow |
| 00:03.05 | tardmrr | really, though |
| 00:03.13 | tardmrr | I want the Bird mount from the druid FF quest boss |
| 00:03.18 | Mr_Rabies2 | Lunessa |
| 00:03.28 | zenzelezz | me too tardmrr :-( |
| 00:03.33 | tardmrr | it's like a cross between the raptor and an arrakoa |
| 00:03.41 | Mr_Rabies2 | you should get some fellow mages together to write a well worded post to make turtlemorph trainable |
| 00:03.58 | Lunessa | Nah - I like it being rare. :P |
| 00:04.00 | Mr_Rabies2 | in the suggestions forum :O |
| 00:04.05 | Mr_Rabies2 | but the turtle is aweosme |
| 00:04.07 | Mr_Rabies2 | awesome* |
| 00:04.11 | tardmrr | really, I just want a two-legged mount |
| 00:04.14 | Lunessa | Not if everyone has it. |
| 00:04.14 | Mr_Rabies2 | turtles in general are awesome |
| 00:04.16 | tardmrr | any of them would do |
| 00:04.16 | Bleeter | I'd be happy with a harder version of the pig quest |
| 00:04.35 | Bleeter | eg, a 5+ lvl 70 group quest |
| 00:04.39 | tardmrr | I'd be happy with an event like the MC event in Ogri'la |
| 00:04.44 | tardmrr | that you can solo, but it's difficult |
| 00:04.44 | Mr_Rabies2 | i bet they'll make some quest eventually for polymorph:chicken and skunk |
| 00:04.53 | Kaydeethree | heh... first person on medivh to get poly:pig, I still don't have turtle |
| 00:05.00 | zenzelezz | I want Polymorph (Murloc) |
| 00:05.12 | Mr_Rabies2 | i want a murloc suit |
| 00:05.13 | Mr_Rabies2 | :[ |
| 00:05.23 | tardmrr | l2blizzcon imo |
| 00:05.28 | Mr_Rabies2 | but cal-lee-for-nai-yay is too far |
| 00:05.34 | tardmrr | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:05.42 | tardmrr | I can't afford to go the left coast |
| 00:06.54 | Bleeter | lol, have a thought for us Oceanics |
| 00:07.27 | Bleeter | we'd prolly cross the continent for a Blizzcon, not half the freaken planet tho |
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| 00:08.02 | zenzelezz | Euros too |
| 00:08.16 | Bleeter | does Euro never get Blizzcons? |
| 00:10.10 | Thunder_Child | there isnt one for there...doesnt mean you cant start your own |
| 00:11.25 | zenzelezz | where's the fun if you have to do it yourself? |
| 00:11.49 | JoshBorke | sense of accomplishment |
| 00:12.08 | Lunessa | OK... I'm going to go to dinner. Back in a while. |
| 00:12.11 | zenzelezz | that's what my epics are for |
| 00:12.16 | Bleeter | but but but... if I did it myself, I'd not be playing, spending too much time trying to organise |
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| 00:12.32 | Bleeter | and if I weren't playing, I'd cancel my subscription... which'd kinda make a mockery of the entire thing! :P |
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| 00:48.11 | Kaydeethree | geez... they either nerfed hydross or we're on our A-game tonight. got him with 2m til enrage |
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| 00:50.17 | Cide- | that's pretty nice |
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| 00:54.52 | Industrial | how do I turn off firefox smart error displays? |
| 00:55.02 | Industrial | Firefox has detected that the server is redirecting the request for this address in a way that will never complete. |
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| 00:55.07 | Industrial | im the one making it redirect |
| 00:55.08 | Industrial | >_> |
| 00:55.26 | zenzelezz | browser.xul.error_pages.enabled I think |
| 00:55.30 | Industrial | i wanna know the absolute url im making it direct to (because I'm not) |
| 00:55.41 | zenzelezz | in about:config |
| 00:55.44 | Industrial | ok |
| 00:55.47 | Industrial | thansk |
| 00:55.56 | zenzelezz | I may be wrong, but try it :-p |
| 00:56.18 | Industrial | no correct |
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| 00:57.31 | Industrial | yeah now i just get it in a popup and the url it was at stays, lol |
| 00:57.47 | TS|Skrom | ~seen zeksie |
| 00:57.53 | purl | zeksie <n=zeksie@cpc1-nott9-0-0-cust806.nott.cable.ntl.com> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 1d 2h 24m 56s ago, saying: 'b ut sounds like ur not ;)'. |
| 00:59.08 | Mike-N-Go | ~seen TigerHeart |
| 00:59.09 | purl | Mike-N-Go: i haven't seen 'tigerheart' |
| 01:00.59 | Tem|laptop | Mike-N-Go, Tigerheart is dead |
| 01:01.06 | Tem|laptop | like, really |
| 01:01.16 | Mike-N-Go | Tem|laptop: Oh? |
| 01:01.26 | Tem|laptop | he died back in january, I think |
| 01:01.48 | Tem|laptop | I was late hearing about it, so I don't know how (not that it's really any of my business anyway) |
| 01:03.02 | Mike-N-Go | Well, I was trying to get one of his projects, FriendSave, to a working state. |
| 01:03.26 | Mike-N-Go | Problem is on line 34: http://pastey.net/57570 |
| 01:03.49 | Mike-N-Go | ' attempt to call a table value' |
| 01:04.42 | Bleeter | Mike-N-Go: http://www.onemansgarbage.com/ |
| 01:04.56 | Bleeter | (I assume he's one and the same) |
| 01:07.46 | ckknight | Mike-N-Go: wrap it in pairs() |
| 01:07.51 | zenzelezz | one thing I'm curious about, does KTM and the like account for +/- threat enchants? |
| 01:08.17 | Kaydeethree | ya |
| 01:08.40 | Mike-N-Go | ckknight: Take out the 'in'? |
| 01:09.09 | TS|Skrom | for k,v in pairs(table) do |
| 01:09.12 | ckknight | Mike-N-Go: `for k,v in self.db.account[(GetRealmName())][(UnitName("player"))].friend do` => `for k,v in pairs(self.db.account[(GetRealmName())][(UnitName("player"))].friend) do` |
| 01:09.48 | Mike-N-Go | Works now, thanks. |
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| 01:15.48 | Mike-N-Go | Seeing as TigerHeart is no longer able to update this addon, how may go about being able to upload a patch? |
| 01:16.15 | cladhaire | where's it hosted? |
| 01:16.25 | Mike-N-Go | http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info5330-FriendSave.html |
| 01:16.32 | JoshBorke | post a patch to it |
| 01:16.37 | cladhaire | either post a patch to it |
| 01:16.48 | cladhaire | or ask for ownership of the addon |
| 01:17.07 | cladhaire | there's an "upload patch" button |
| 01:17.13 | cladhaire | http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/upload.php?aop=fileupload&catid=33&mainid=5330&type=1 specifically |
| 01:17.57 | Mike-N-Go | There is no button on the original file for patch upload. |
| 01:18.03 | cladhaire | i just linked it to you |
| 01:18.09 | cladhaire | and got it from the addon page. |
| 01:18.19 | cladhaire | anyone else not see it? |
| 01:18.30 | Mike-N-Go | On the original file, I am talking about. |
| 01:18.31 | cladhaire | cause its right under the initial box (below Add to my Favorites) |
| 01:18.46 | cladhaire | what original file, i'm not sure what you're saying |
| 01:18.52 | zenzelezz | it's a text link, but I see it |
| 01:19.00 | cladhaire | i asked where it was hosted, you gave me a link.. there is a link on that page, that says "Upload Patch" |
| 01:19.01 | zenzelezz | upload patch, upload add-on |
| 01:19.03 | Mike-N-Go | Wait, I think I know what the problem is; I am not logged in. |
| 01:19.07 | cladhaire | you use that to upload a a patch for that addon |
| 01:19.08 | zenzelezz | ... |
| 01:19.11 | cladhaire | ah, that might be it =)_ |
| 01:19.20 | Mike-N-Go | There we go. |
| 01:19.25 | Mike-N-Go | ~lart Mike-N-Go |
| 01:19.25 | purl | throws a AN/M-8 smoke grenade at Mike-N-Go |
| 01:19.44 | TS|Skrom | never seen someone lart themself |
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| 01:21.02 | Mike-N-Go | TS|Skrom: It is less painful if done to ones self by them self. |
| 01:21.18 | *** kick/#wowi-lounge [cladhaire!n=cladhair@WoWUIDev/WoWI/Featured/Dongle/cladhaire] by cladhaire (GO AWAY BISH!) |
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| 01:28.56 | Thunder_Child | lolz @ cladhaire |
| 01:30.34 | Lunessa | Nerinia gains 800 XP and +5 Rep with WoWBugs |
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| 01:33.06 | Lunessa | Haha Cog 's___s and giggles' - I got a laugh. |
| 01:35.27 | Bleeter | lolwut! there's a blue poster on the US forums called 'cprompt' |
| 01:35.39 | Bleeter | rarely posts, never seen them before |
| 01:35.45 | Kaydeethree | tech support iirc |
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| 01:54.38 | Cairenn | kergoth, Tain, Shadowed |
| 01:54.41 | Cairenn | ping |
| 01:54.47 | kergoth | pong |
| 01:54.47 | Thunder_Child | hmm..looks like they havent fixed surg of light |
| 01:55.10 | Thunder_Child | surge* |
| 01:55.39 | Tem|laptop | I think they just re-broke it |
| 01:55.45 | Tem|laptop | wasn't it fixed in 2.1? |
| 01:56.04 | Thunder_Child | dont remeber, but i do know that it is broken again |
| 01:56.09 | Thunder_Child | and i love it |
| 01:56.37 | zenzelezz | broke how? |
| 01:56.44 | Thunder_Child | i crit off of it |
| 01:57.19 | Tem|laptop | you can chain them |
| 01:57.40 | Thunder_Child | it's great |
| 01:57.43 | Tem|laptop | which is almost as awesome as chaining netherwind procs back in the day |
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| 02:31.02 | ckknight | how do you get an NPC's title, e.g. <Journeyman Engineer>? |
| 02:31.38 | Mr_Rabies2 | i was going to ask the same question, for trying to get it to show up in aloft |
| 02:31.44 | Mr_Rabies2 | but forgot until you did just now :P |
| 02:33.58 | MentalPower | ckknight: scan the TT |
| 02:34.24 | ckknight | oh, srsly? |
| 02:34.27 | ckknight | that's totally lame |
| 02:34.38 | MentalPower | ... |
| 02:35.17 | ckknight | it is, there's no denying. |
| 02:35.49 | Cide- | so you and tooltip scanning have something in common? I would never have guessed that |
| 02:36.44 | ckknight | does anyone else not see how big of a king prick Cide- is but me? |
| 02:36.57 | Cide- | I'm a prick to everyone :) |
| 02:36.59 | zenzelezz | I was thinking the same |
| 02:37.10 | zenzelezz | you haven't seemed so until recently |
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| 02:37.43 | Cide- | eh |
| 02:37.47 | Bleeter | I just... |
| 02:37.48 | Lunessa | You know, I logged in here thinking it's be great to talk code and wow with clever people, but the sniping is kind of ugly. |
| 02:38.14 | Bleeter | dun wanna know how cide knows ckknight has a broken leg, nor how ckknight knows that cide has a big d&#k... i guess we'll just leave all that to imaginations. |
| 02:38.19 | Cide- | Lunessa: just ignore me and you'll be fine |
| 02:38.22 | zenzelezz | Lunessa: Cairenn usually keeps people on a leash, but it's been heated lately |
| 02:38.40 | Cide- | besides |
| 02:38.53 | Cide- | I'm pretty nice to people I like |
| 02:39.02 | Cide- | and I don't think it's a secret that I don't love ckknight |
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| 02:39.19 | zenzelezz | but you feel the need to show that at any opportunity? |
| 02:39.29 | Cide- | yup, because I'm an ass |
| 02:39.36 | TS|Skrom | question about av |
| 02:39.41 | TS|Skrom | if the enemy summons their giant |
| 02:39.49 | TS|Skrom | can you still kite it to the enemy general? |
| 02:39.52 | TS|Skrom | or rather |
| 02:39.54 | TS|Skrom | to your general |
| 02:39.57 | Kaydeethree | no |
| 02:40.01 | Kaydeethree | npcs don't deal with the giants |
| 02:40.07 | Cide- | yep, they all ignore them now |
| 02:40.17 | Bleeter | now *that's* lame |
| 02:40.18 | Cide- | but they're still pretty viable |
| 02:40.19 | TS|Skrom | so if they get a giant out you're pretty much screwed |
| 02:40.43 | Cide- | kinda |
| 02:42.38 | Bleeter | haha http://worsethanfailure.com/Articles/Crashing-Las-Vegas.aspx |
| 02:42.50 | Wobwork | oh man |
| 02:42.51 | Wobwork | wtf |
| 02:42.58 | Wobwork | I've not looked at that for ages |
| 02:43.03 | Lunessa | lol |
| 02:43.05 | Wobwork | ever since the lame name change =P |
| 02:43.48 | zenzelezz | name change? |
| 02:44.32 | Bleeter | dailywtf |
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| 02:44.47 | Wobwork | It used to be thedailywtf |
| 02:44.51 | Wobwork | until his grandmother complained |
| 02:50.54 | ScytheBlade1 | wtf @ http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=112471436&sid=1 |
| 02:52.02 | TS|Skrom | >.> |
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| 02:52.27 | Cide- | haha, I like: http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=112411417&sid=1 |
| 02:52.55 | Mike-N-Go | However, this is not true, it does not require the other addon for it to work. |
| 02:53.35 | Mike-N-Go | How may I alter this untrue statement? |
| 02:54.12 | zenzelezz | reverse the polarity of the question |
| 02:54.23 | Tuller | I did that to a friend when he was on vacation once |
| 02:54.24 | Wobwork | Don't cross the streams you fool! |
| 02:54.59 | Shadowed | Cairenn |
| 02:55.04 | Shadowed | whatever i did |
| 02:55.05 | Shadowed | i didn't do it |
| 02:55.09 | Cairenn | lol |
| 02:55.17 | Shadowed | whats up? |
| 02:55.22 | Lunessa | Blame me; everyone else does. :P |
| 02:55.32 | TS|Skrom | Tuller are you level 60? |
| 02:55.48 | Tuller | TS|Skrom: 70 |
| 02:55.52 | TS|Skrom | kk |
| 02:55.54 | TS|Skrom | good |
| 02:56.07 | TS|Skrom | so you didn't just see me make a fool of myself in AV. I saw a guy named tuller |
| 02:56.09 | TS|Skrom | who was 60 |
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| 02:57.21 | Tuller | yeah tuller was a randomly generated name |
| 02:57.27 | Tuller | so there's bound to be a bunch of them |
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| 02:57.46 | Wobwork | You are all individuals! |
| 02:59.23 | Cairenn | where the hell is Tain today? |
| 02:59.24 | Tuller | I'm kinda sad I'm not the most relevant search for tuller on the armory, though |
| 02:59.32 | CrazyMYKL | i'm not |
| 03:01.13 | Lunessa | You are not a number. You're a free man! |
| 03:01.22 | Mr_Rabies2 | does anyone know of any addons that support trinket equipping in flight forms like the riding crop mount ones? |
| 03:01.38 | Mr_Rabies2 | it'd be nice if it supported mount trinkets AND flight trinkets, but one or the other works i suppose |
| 03:02.06 | Lunessa | Outfitter, ItemRack, Wardrobe, ClosetGnome.... |
| 03:02.45 | Lunessa | ItemRack is extensible by writing your own 'event' triggers. |
| 03:04.47 | Mr_Rabies2 | Wardrobe has no flight form support |
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| 03:05.11 | Mr_Rabies2 | i mean i could manually make one and swap into it |
| 03:05.13 | Mr_Rabies2 | but that kinda ruins the point |
| 03:05.47 | Lunessa | None of my druids have flight form yet, so I haven't had to worry much about it. |
| 03:06.13 | Mr_Rabies2 | well, even if they do |
| 03:06.24 | Mr_Rabies2 | they won't have a trinket until they get one step away from getting swift flight form anyway |
| 03:08.12 | Lunessa | I would guess ItemRack would be the way to go; I just don't use it myself. |
| 03:08.24 | Mr_Rabies2 | looking at closetgnome atm |
| 03:08.26 | ScytheBlade1 | ItemRack is nice. |
| 03:08.34 | Mr_Rabies2 | it's looking like it's pretty awesome |
| 03:08.52 | Mr_Rabies2 | i may replace wardrobe with it, depending on how much i like it in real use |
| 03:09.24 | Lunessa | I liked it for flexibility, but I liked Outfitter for simplicity of use. |
| 03:09.24 | AnduinLothar | if you want to customize your own auto-swaps ItemRack lets you do that |
| 03:09.50 | AnduinLothar | Outfitter has 'optimal' outfits that let you maximize things |
| 03:10.39 | Lunessa | Handy feature when you're trying to build a 'kit' for something. |
| 03:10.47 | AnduinLothar | If you give me the buff names of the druid flight forms i can possibly add them to wardrobe |
| 03:10.58 | Mr_Rabies2 | just the names? |
| 03:11.08 | Mr_Rabies2 | Flight Form and Swift Flight Form |
| 03:12.05 | Mr_Rabies2 | honestly i really like wardrobe, that's my only "gripe" with it |
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| 03:12.34 | Mr_Rabies2 | but i'm picky as hell, and always willing to try out other alternatives until i get exactly what i want :P |
| 03:12.55 | AnduinLothar | i'm jsut annoyed those aren't cause by IsMounted, but w/e |
| 03:13.06 | AnduinLothar | would have been caught by my old lib.. |
| 03:13.23 | AnduinLothar | but i guess I can still use the name return of UnitBuff |
| 03:14.02 | Mr_Rabies2 | well |
| 03:14.14 | Mr_Rabies2 | the problem is, they don't get bonuses from mount buffs either |
| 03:14.36 | Mr_Rabies2 | the pally aura or the trinkets |
| 03:14.59 | Mr_Rabies2 | the flight form trinket only increases flight form's speed, and the riding crop only increases mounts' speed |
| 03:15.01 | AnduinLothar | well ideally I'd add fully druid form support. but then the warriors are gonna whine they don't have stance support |
| 03:15.35 | AnduinLothar | so maybe i'll just add custom buff detection |
| 03:15.41 | Mr_Rabies2 | yeah, that's a whole new can of worms |
| 03:15.45 | Mr_Rabies2 | but custom would be nifty |
| 03:15.52 | AnduinLothar | do stances show as buffs? |
| 03:16.06 | Mr_Rabies2 | uhh, internally i think O_o |
| 03:16.10 | Mr_Rabies2 | i dunno if addons can read them or not |
| 03:16.10 | AnduinLothar | UnitBuff? |
| 03:16.29 | zenzelezz | don't believe so |
| 03:16.43 | AnduinLothar | how are stances usualyl detected? |
| 03:17.00 | Mr_Rabies2 | i think they're a hidden buff |
| 03:17.19 | Mr_Rabies2 | i know you can do like [stance:1] in macros, but i think addons and macros are completely seperate now |
| 03:17.31 | AnduinLothar | GetShapeshiftForm for droods |
| 03:17.46 | Corrodias | well, it seems Aspected Again is the cause of the tainting between Bartender and XPerl |
| 03:18.06 | AnduinLothar | mm that works fro stances |
| 03:18.10 | AnduinLothar | and auras |
| 03:18.16 | AnduinLothar | and stealth |
| 03:18.19 | Corrodias | this presents a conundrum. i love having hunter aspects on the stance bar. |
| 03:18.27 | ScytheBlade1 | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=112631293&sid=1#5 <-- can anyone make sense of that post? |
| 03:18.49 | Mr_Rabies2 | returns zero-based index of current form/stance |
| 03:18.57 | Mr_Rabies2 | Corr, make a custom extra bar in bartender |
| 03:19.02 | Mr_Rabies2 | and scale it down to stance size or so |
| 03:19.03 | AnduinLothar | well 0 is no stance |
| 03:19.18 | Mr_Rabies2 | and rebind the buttons |
| 03:19.20 | Corrodias | can i have my shapeshifting keys bound to that -and- the stance bar? |
| 03:19.32 | Lunessa | ScytheBlade1: Yes - and he's gotten all the answer he's getting. |
| 03:19.40 | Corrodias | perhaps character-specific keybinds. i didn't want to have to go there. |
| 03:19.41 | Mr_Rabies2 | well, you could do char specific, or just add your keys to the minibar |
| 03:19.50 | Mr_Rabies2 | forms, rather |
| 03:19.54 | AnduinLothar | mm i can get GetShapeshiftFormInfo to do the icon |
| 03:19.54 | Mr_Rabies2 | then hide the stancebar |
| 03:19.56 | ScytheBlade1 | Lunessa, post #5? |
| 03:20.31 | Lunessa | Yeah, I get it. It says "I think you could still do it soulken, and I still want it. " |
| 03:20.46 | Mr_Rabies2 | he's a soullll kennn |
| 03:20.46 | Bleeter | hmmm http://www.theregister.co.uk/2007/06/21/hacking_mmorpgs/ |
| 03:20.51 | Mr_Rabies2 | badabompbadadada |
| 03:20.56 | ScytheBlade1 | Yeah, I got that part |
| 03:21.02 | ScytheBlade1 | But his "suggestion" is confusing the crap out of me |
| 03:21.13 | Kaydeethree | ya, I saw that in my /. feed |
| 03:21.25 | Kaydeethree | interesting... wonder what blizz has to say about that |
| 03:21.58 | Bleeter | Kaydeethree: try and get it banned under DCMA? I dunno that law that well, dunno if it'd be even possible |
| 03:22.03 | Bleeter | s/it/the book/ |
| 03:22.32 | Lunessa | He's saying "use a name for the icon and restrict the uinit id to the name." |
| 03:22.37 | Kaydeethree | dunno... it's not really breaking copyright protection or encryption, though |
| 03:23.00 | ScytheBlade1 | That's... broken |
| 03:23.41 | Bleeter | altohugh sight unseen on the book, if it discusses bypassing the copyprotection in the game..? |
| 03:24.00 | Bleeter | (and drawing a long bow for copyprotection/warden) |
| 03:24.12 | Lunessa | Wow... that article didn't do ANY fact-checking. |
| 03:24.33 | Bleeter | Someone find out what paracetamol Blizz's lawyers use, I'm gunna go buy shares |
| 03:26.29 | ScytheBlade1 | "A lot of people think you can get in trouble for breaking EULAs," McGraw said. "It turns out EULA writers can get in trouble for asking improper things." |
| 03:26.38 | ScytheBlade1 | I hope he has the money to defend himself against Vivendi in court. |
| 03:28.47 | Bleeter | Hmm, Vivendi vs Addison Wesley... I'd like to see that |
| 03:28.55 | Lunessa | Actually, his statement is more or less correct, but vague and intentionally misleading. |
| 03:29.26 | Mr_Rabies2 | speaking of lawsuits involving blizzard |
| 03:29.42 | ScytheBlade1 | True |
| 03:29.48 | ScytheBlade1 | But, sadly, it doesn't matter |
| 03:29.50 | Bleeter | btw... http://safari.oreilly.com/0321460723 |
| 03:29.55 | ScytheBlade1 | If you don't have the money to defend yourself.. |
| 03:30.01 | Bleeter | has excerpts of the book |
| 03:30.45 | Mr_Rabies2 | am i weird for still reading a certain third party, tos breaking application's forums, even though i haven't used said program for a very long time? :O |
| 03:31.18 | ScytheBlade1 | wowglider is funny |
| 03:31.26 | Corrodias | didn't /changeactionbar have a syntax to switch between two specified bars? |
| 03:32.28 | ScytheBlade1 | 1,2 |
| 03:32.51 | Corrodias | that gives me an error, ChangeActionBarPage() needs a page in the range 1 to 6: |
| 03:33.16 | Corrodias | i suppose an addon may be screwing with the slash command, but i don't see why |
| 03:33.23 | ScytheBlade1 | 1, 2 |
| 03:33.25 | ScytheBlade1 | ? |
| 03:33.28 | ScytheBlade1 | Err no |
| 03:33.31 | ScytheBlade1 | No comma, heh |
| 03:33.52 | Corrodias | "/changeactionbar 1 2" also gives that error |
| 03:33.57 | Lunessa | OK folks... headed home. Be excellent to each other. |
| 03:34.03 | Corrodias | see you |
| 03:34.08 | ScytheBlade1 | Odd |
| 03:34.51 | Corrodias | /swapactionbar |
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| 03:35.21 | Bleeter | yes, Vivendi vs Pearson Education. I'd buy tickets for that. |
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| 03:41.47 | Kirkburn | Btw, I'm utterly mad, so I made this - http://www.wowace.com/wiki/What_is_Ace |
| 03:42.04 | Kirkburn | "This article aims to lightheartedly help dispel the various myths and misconceptions about Ace2." |
| 03:42.34 | Kirkburn | Amazingly, it has agreement on both sides of the fence, so I thought it might be useful for people to read and link :) |
| 03:42.52 | Kirkburn | (to link to both detractors and fanatics) |
| 03:43.05 | Bleeter | "Ace will not magically make your crap computer non-crap. " /wrist |
| 03:43.30 | Corrodias | ace makes everything better |
| 03:43.31 | Corrodias | no exceptions |
| 03:43.32 | Bleeter | decent write up, tho, imo |
| 03:43.36 | Cide | what is love? |
| 03:43.54 | Kirkburn | Baby don't hurt me, don't hurt me, no more |
| 03:44.09 | Kirkburn | Bleeter, thanks :) |
| 03:44.12 | Bleeter | Kirkburn: but you said you liked it! |
| 03:44.26 | Kirkburn | >_> |
| 03:44.57 | Mr_Rabies2 | 7. Contrary to popular belief, using Ace and Cosmos together will not bring about the ruin of the universe. |
| 03:45.19 | Wobwork | It's like matter and antimatter |
| 03:45.58 | Bleeter | hmm, surely more like up and down quarks |
| 03:46.34 | Wobwork | sideways? |
| 03:46.45 | Wobwork | hm, "The community is not homogenous" |
| 03:46.47 | Wobwork | wha? |
| 03:46.54 | Cide | Efficiency is often a major philosophy of Ace addons <-- should be rephrased, imo |
| 03:47.03 | Cide | I'd say it's a major philosophy of the ace community |
| 03:47.13 | Kirkburn | Okay |
| 03:47.23 | Cide | just my personal opinion, others may or may not agree of course |
| 03:47.24 | iriel | Hopefully a major philosophy of 'anyone clueful in the addon community' too |
| 03:47.35 | Wobwork | yeah |
| 03:47.38 | Cide | iriel: I hope so too |
| 03:47.47 | Bleeter | clueful? ADDON COMMUNITY!? |
| 03:47.50 | Bleeter | ~lart iriel |
| 03:47.50 | purl | drops a humongous exploding nuke on iriel |
| 03:47.52 | Corrodias | okay, aspectedagain, mixed with bartender, causes xperl unitframes' unit frames to become tainted |
| 03:47.53 | Wobwork | It's true =( |
| 03:48.01 | Corrodias | is there any way i can start to diagnose why? |
| 03:48.02 | Kirkburn | True, I added it to make sure people understood it was not the be-all and end-all |
| 03:48.21 | Wobwork | needs more of that |
| 03:48.30 | Wobwork | needs a hell of a lot more of that |
| 03:48.37 | Mr_Rabies2 | Corr, i had a similar issue with trinketmenu |
| 03:48.46 | Mr_Rabies2 | eventually it just...worked |
| 03:48.50 | Corrodias | i use trinketmenu :o but it doesn't seem to be involved |
| 03:49.00 | Mr_Rabies2 | Trinketmenu, and a couple seemingly random ace mods combined |
| 03:49.06 | Kirkburn | "The community is not homogenous" <-- a fanciful way of saying "we are not legion, we are all individuals" |
| 03:49.26 | Mr_Rabies2 | combining, say, autobar and pitbull, or ora and autobar, or ora and pitbull |
| 03:49.29 | Mr_Rabies2 | would break trinketmenu |
| 03:49.44 | Mr_Rabies2 | but then one day they started working, i'm guessing due to a lib update or something |
| 03:50.12 | Wobwork | We are all individuals |
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| 03:50.24 | Kirkburn | Wobwork, I added that note :P |
| 03:50.35 | Corrodias | i'm gonna start tinkering with aspectedagain's code. see if i can figure out when. |
| 03:50.36 | Kirkburn | Also, I'm not. |
| 03:50.45 | Corrodias | ooo, severe thunderstorm warning |
| 03:50.57 | Wobwork | meh |
| 03:50.59 | Wobwork | we had one of those |
| 03:51.05 | Wobwork | "Cyclone 2 force winds" they said |
| 03:51.18 | Mr_Rabies2 | Oh geez |
| 03:51.19 | Wobwork | "Heavy flooding" they said |
| 03:51.25 | Mr_Rabies2 | i bet it lasts for 8 seconds instead of 6 |
| 03:51.40 | Wobwork | then something boosted the winds up a few kilometres and it flew over the top of Sydney and didn't touch it |
| 03:52.08 | Corrodias | all that's outside is a light rain right now |
| 03:52.35 | Bleeter | Wobwork: OT: There's an EBay screenie floating around of someone trying to sell the Pasha Bulker on Ebay, bids started @ $16m |
| 03:54.37 | Corrodias | the what? |
| 03:54.47 | Wobwork | Bleeter: rofl |
| 03:54.58 | Wobwork | "One tanker. Hardly used." |
| 03:56.59 | Wobwork | every time I see batrick, I think Batroc |
| 03:57.03 | Wobwork | Ze Leaper |
| 03:57.20 | Corrodias | i think the tainting comes from the way AA is hooking these functions; "GetNumShapeshiftForms = Aspected_GetNumShapeshiftForms;" |
| 03:57.36 | Corrodias | this code was written long before 2.0 and i think the current author is just trying to maintain it |
| 04:00.23 | Bleeter | Wobwork: Q. 'As I am local to Newcastle, can I take it for a spin before I bid?' A: 'Oh she's a real fast one mate, 'coz she's red' |
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| 04:01.03 | Wobwork | Bleeter: brilliant =P |
| 04:02.25 | Bleeter | .. "The views are amazing from just about anywhere on this little beauty, although chopper (not included) is required for easy passage onto and off the boat" |
| 04:03.07 | Bleeter | "Shipping at buyers expense, pickup preferred, no reserve on this rare find" |
| 04:03.26 | Bleeter | auction cancelled by EBay with bid @ $16m, 21 bids (original info I gave was wrong) |
| 04:03.34 | Mr_Rabies2 | Corr, just make a fake stance bar man, much less headache :P |
| 04:04.09 | Corrodias | i must do it the hard way! |
| 04:04.18 | Corrodias | YOU WILL NEVER UNDERSTAND ME MOTHER |
| 04:04.24 | Wobwork | Bleeter: link? |
| 04:05.08 | Bleeter | Wobwork: can't, it's all gorn. /msg me an email and I'll mail you what I've got |
| 04:05.35 | Wobwork | wobster at gmail |
| 04:06.00 | Wobwork | oh wait |
| 04:06.05 | Wobwork | I think I got a screenshot mailed =P |
| 04:06.17 | Wobwork | "Hello, how much fuel is on board?" |
| 04:06.26 | Bleeter | heh, just sent then (wouldn't have cleared my MX yet tho) |
| 04:06.54 | Wobwork | "Fuel has been replaced with water for the moment to keep it stable while parked up... but the 700 or so tonnes is included in the sale. |
| 04:12.27 | Corrodias | i don't suppose there's any way to alter the return values of GetNumShapeshiftForm and other functions without tainting them? |
| 04:12.52 | Corrodias | and why not? maybe so. i need to learn more about secure...stuff. |
| 04:14.11 | Mr_Rabies2 | i remember i used to add and remove stuff manually from aspected back in the day |
| 04:14.11 | MentalPower | Bleeter: link? |
| 04:14.29 | Mr_Rabies2 | like hiding the aspects i didn't care much about |
| 04:14.35 | Mr_Rabies2 | aka beast and wild and stuff |
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| 04:16.59 | Wobwork | wild is useful |
| 04:17.04 | Wobwork | beast only for pvp |
| 04:17.11 | Wobwork | and even then highly situational =P |
| 04:17.34 | Mr_Rabies2 | wild is so situational i just opened the spell book when i used it |
| 04:17.42 | Wobwork | I guess =) |
| 04:19.17 | Corrodias | heheh |
| 04:20.25 | Mr_Rabies2 | and i only used beast if i was flag running |
| 04:20.34 | Mr_Rabies2 | and turtling |
| 04:23.47 | Wobwork | how useful is it for turtling? |
| 04:24.04 | Mr_Rabies2 | with the flag so you're untrackable |
| 04:24.44 | Mr_Rabies2 | second you're spotted, back to hawk |
| 04:32.15 | Corrodias | i'm super, thanks for asking |
| 04:32.21 | Corrodias | all things considered, i couldn't be better; i'm just swell |
| 04:33.32 | Mr_Rabies2 | hrmm |
| 04:33.45 | Mr_Rabies2 | does anyone else have a problem with bartender randomly hiding slots? |
| 04:33.59 | Mr_Rabies2 | i can open my spellbook and it's there |
| 04:34.02 | Mr_Rabies2 | then i close it and BAM |
| 04:34.08 | Mr_Rabies2 | it's gone O_o |
| 04:34.21 | Mr_Rabies2 | but it seems to be pretty random in its decision on which ones to hide |
| 04:34.53 | Thunder_Child | i played all day w/ bartender with no problems |
| 04:35.09 | Mr_Rabies2 | it's really bizarre |
| 04:35.15 | Mr_Rabies2 | it hides buttons seemingly randomly |
| 04:35.29 | Wobwork | any scottish people here? |
| 04:37.22 | Cairenn | does ancestry count? |
| 04:38.03 | Wobwork | Have you lived there? |
| 04:38.10 | Wobwork | I'm more looking for a resident, I guess =) |
| 04:38.11 | Cairenn | nope |
| 04:38.51 | Wobwork | fr example, would the question "Do you call it East Lothian, or Haddingtonshire" mean anything to you? =) |
| 04:41.11 | Corrodias | i've heard of this |
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| 04:41.19 | Corrodias | it's when people had the option selected to re-use blizzard buttons |
| 04:41.32 | Mr_Rabies2 | hrm |
| 04:41.34 | Mr_Rabies2 | i wonder why |
| 04:41.50 | Corrodias | eh, i have no idea |
| 04:42.23 | Mr_Rabies2 | "always show actionbars" |
| 04:42.27 | Mr_Rabies2 | seems to have fixed it |
| 04:42.29 | Wobwork | oh man, I <3 Vim |
| 04:42.29 | Mr_Rabies2 | lets see |
| 04:42.36 | Wobwork | :%!sort |
| 04:42.44 | Mr_Rabies2 | yep |
| 04:43.01 | Mr_Rabies2 | now to let nevcairiel know so they can tell others who get the same behavior what to do |
| 04:43.02 | Wobwork | I now have a sorted list of all 86 Counties in GBR |
| 04:44.04 | Corrodias | i've almost got aspectedagain modified to make it work with bartender... |
| 04:48.36 | Corrodias | so close >:o |
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| 04:51.10 | Mr_Rabies2 | testing sommat |
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| 04:52.19 | Mr_Rabies2 | sorry for the join/leave spam |
| 04:52.26 | Mr_Rabies2 | script is being a jerkface |
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| 04:53.10 | Mr_Rabies2 | for some reason, the notice that nickserv sends isn't a real notice |
| 04:53.13 | Mr_Rabies2 | or something |
| 04:53.23 | KarlThePagan | AnduinLothar, having considered pysn I'm still interested in seeing it implemented as an extension to RSS-2.0 or Atom-1.0 - personally I am leaning towarads the Atom standards group |
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| 05:03.00 | Drundia | Any ideas how to track down place where evil addons taint Blizzard variables? |
| 05:04.07 | Nom- | Devil:Consult() ? |
| 05:04.40 | Mr_Rabies2 | one more try to this script until i'm done |
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| 05:07.00 | Mr_Rabies2 | on *:notice:*:*: { if (Nickserv isin $nick) && (nickserv *identify* isin $1- ) { id } } |
| 05:07.04 | Mr_Rabies2 | doesn't seem to be working |
| 05:10.43 | Mr_Rabies2 | it's like nickserv's noticing me but not |
| 05:11.45 | Nom- | umm |
| 05:12.06 | Nom- | it's been a long time since i've done mIRC scripting, but i'm sure that you shouldn't be using a bareword for an isin match |
| 05:12.22 | Kirkburn | I just noticed, my pet regains health even when I'm mounted now |
| 05:13.50 | Kirkburn | I wonder if buffs fade too |
| 05:13.53 | zenzelezz | does mIRC use "&&"? |
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| 05:14.19 | Nom- | no idea |
| 05:14.28 | Nom- | it's been about 5 years since i even used mIRC |
| 05:16.33 | Wobwork | Happiness is a workplace that supplies free Timtams |
| 05:16.52 | Nom- | hmm |
| 05:17.01 | Bleeter | standard? caramel? double choc? dark? |
| 05:17.04 | Nom- | a position i was considering applying for got extended to this friday |
| 05:17.10 | Bleeter | true happiness would be 'all of the above' |
| 05:17.10 | Nom- | I wonder if that's a sign |
| 05:17.12 | Wobwork | Standard =) |
| 05:17.24 | Wobwork | Good tea, good bikkies |
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| 05:17.38 | Nom- | Same position title, but different department, working on different stuff |
| 05:17.38 | Bleeter | Nom-: a sign that they're a disorganised bunch, maybe? |
| 05:18.00 | Nom- | I don't think so, Bleeter ... it's a sign they didn't get enough applicants :/ |
| 05:18.13 | Nom- | They're only recruiting internally |
| 05:18.14 | Nom- | I think |
| 05:18.47 | Nom- | Yup, they are :) |
| 05:19.00 | Nom- | So obviously everyone is gruntled |
| 05:49.16 | Mr_Rabies2 | heyy |
| 05:49.36 | Mr_Rabies2 | no happinessmabobber in pitbull? :[ |
| 05:50.47 | Kirkburn | huh? |
| 05:51.01 | Kirkburn | You need an icon? |
| 05:51.08 | Mr_Rabies2 | it helps :X |
| 05:51.18 | Kirkburn | Over the bat turning a bright shade of yellow? |
| 05:51.21 | Kirkburn | *bar >_> |
| 05:51.30 | Mr_Rabies2 | ohh, it's in the bar? |
| 05:51.33 | Mr_Rabies2 | i didnt notice that |
| 05:51.35 | Kirkburn | (or, god forbid, red) |
| 05:51.36 | Kirkburn | Aye |
| 05:52.08 | Kirkburn | Confused when I converted to SinsMod about a year ago, until I noticed the bar going yellow |
| 05:52.13 | Mr_Rabies2 | well, i DO use it to feed my pet with feedomatic |
| 05:52.29 | Kirkburn | (ah, Discord, such fun times) |
| 05:53.00 | Kirkburn | Hey, Midsummer festival just started!# |
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| 05:55.22 | Bleeter | that'd be right |
| 05:55.40 | Bleeter | 6 degrees C here... midsummer on Oceanic realms... yup. Total sense. |
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| 06:03.28 | Wobwork | <3 FlashDevelop |
| 06:03.42 | Wobwork | It makes the fact that I have to use MX2004 bearable |
| 06:03.51 | iriel | It's summer in Azeroth |
| 06:04.29 | Bleeter | hmm, confirms my suspicions...Azeroth is flat. |
| 06:04.40 | Mr_Rabies2 | Kirkburn: it's still yellow and he's maxed out on happiness |
| 06:04.51 | Corrodias | your mom is flat |
| 06:04.53 | Karrion | Azeroth's climate is just weird |
| 06:05.01 | Kirkburn | That's ... odd |
| 06:05.02 | Karrion | (and geology) |
| 06:07.11 | Wobwork | ahaha |
| 06:07.13 | Wobwork | Oceanic servers |
| 06:07.25 | Bleeter | Cairenn: I hope this news doesn't interest you at all, but fwiw the myspace IM protocol is currently being merged with trunk pidgin |
| 06:07.30 | Wobwork | I'll believe it when they're actually vaugely anywhere geographically near Oceania |
| 06:07.58 | Cairenn | ugh, myspace - no, it doesn't interest me |
| 06:08.05 | Bleeter | didn't think you'd be the type |
| 06:08.09 | Bleeter | where type = moron ;) |
| 06:10.05 | zenzelezz | but you weren't sure? |
| 06:10.26 | Corrodias | type(Mr_Rabies2) == "n00b" |
| 06:10.35 | Cairenn | no, I have more taste than that, and it isn't all in my mouth |
| 06:11.08 | Mr_Rabies2 | :O |
| 06:12.26 | Wobwork | hehe, one of my workmates brought his kid in |
| 06:12.29 | Wobwork | Dylan's so cute =P |
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| 06:30.01 | Kirkburn | Wobwork, don't try stealing him, okay? |
| 06:30.19 | Mr_Rabies2 | hrmmm |
| 06:30.25 | Mr_Rabies2 | this script isn't working |
| 06:31.18 | Wobwork | aww |
| 06:31.22 | Wobwork | He's adorable |
| 06:31.29 | Wobwork | and really well behaved =P |
| 06:34.04 | Kirkburn | This Earth, Wind & Fire Megamix is AWESOME |
| 06:34.31 | iriel | Slightlywarmsoggymud? |
| 06:34.41 | Kirkburn | lol |
| 06:34.55 | Kirkburn | Yes, and I love it |
| 06:35.10 | Kirkburn | People normally pay for that type of stuff y'know |
| 06:37.45 | Kirkburn | "September" is especially awesome |
| 06:41.37 | Mr_Rabies2 | what's the option for macros for no target? |
| 06:41.47 | Mr_Rabies2 | [target=noexists]? |
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| 06:43.26 | Mr_Rabies2 | blah, i cant remeber |
| 06:43.38 | ckknight | [target=none] |
| 06:43.53 | Mr_Rabies2 | basically i want it to be so if i have no target, then i cast X, otherwise assist |
| 06:44.13 | iriel | That's [noexists] then |
| 06:45.41 | Mr_Rabies2 | awesome thanks |
| 06:46.26 | Mr_Rabies2 | my macro now does this: if no target, cast flare, if noharm, assists, and if harm, casts hunter's mark then pet attacks |
| 06:47.07 | Mr_Rabies2 | oh and /stopmacro [modifier:shift] so i don't accidentally send my pet in all the time when i wanna hunter's mark |
| 06:47.43 | Mr_Rabies2 | before pet attack |
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| 07:25.28 | Drundia | If some nice Cosmos (or more precisely Sea) dev reads this: please remove insecure hook for RefreshBuffs - that crappy thing taints Blizzard raid ui.... |
| 07:26.09 | Drundia | Just as always stupid Sea hooks everything it should and shouldn't...... |
| 07:34.33 | Bleeter | Drundia: you might have better luck on the CosmosUI IRC server and channel |
| 07:34.38 | Bleeter | just a thought and suggestion |
| 07:34.46 | Bleeter | could be even better luck posting into their forums |
| 07:34.55 | Bleeter | novel concept that may be, I know, but could be worth a shot |
| 07:35.29 | Drundia | oh right |
| 07:35.36 | Drundia | I'll go kill them |
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| 07:38.48 | Mr_Rabies2 | how do i call other macros in macros? :P |
| 07:40.21 | Thunder_Child | can you? |
| 07:40.30 | |Jelly| | you can't |
| 07:40.58 | |Jelly| | http://www.wowwiki.com/World_of_Warcraft_API#Macro_Functions |
| 07:41.22 | iriel | You can sort of get close with /click |
| 07:42.04 | Mr_Rabies2 | how exactly can i do like |
| 07:42.32 | Mr_Rabies2 | /click [button:2] { some action bar thingy } |
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| 07:42.57 | Mr_Rabies2 | ohhh i see |
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| 10:24.37 | kahdgarx1 | Morning. |
| 10:25.34 | zenzelezz | ahoy |
| 10:26.30 | kahdgarx1 | I'm trying to find a decent system for tracking Spend-All DKP. |
| 10:26.37 | kahdgarx1 | It's proving quite difficult. >< |
| 10:27.21 | wobin | Spend All DKP? |
| 10:27.27 | kahdgarx1 | Mhmm |
| 10:27.29 | wobin | like Suicide Kings? |
| 10:27.36 | kahdgarx1 | almost like Suicide Kings |
| 10:27.42 | wobin | but with points |
| 10:27.47 | kahdgarx1 | exactly |
| 10:27.48 | kahdgarx1 | so that way |
| 10:27.55 | kahdgarx1 | whoever is top ranked can still be passed |
| 10:28.32 | wobin | Afraid I don't know of any that do that |
| 10:28.38 | wobin | You might be able to build on SK |
| 10:28.54 | kahdgarx1 | is there an addon for SK? |
| 10:29.04 | kahdgarx1 | I've written one myself, but it's.... lacking.. |
| 10:29.43 | wobin | Well, there's the SK addon itself... ? =) |
| 10:30.13 | kahdgarx1 | didnt' know there was one.. |
| 10:30.28 | kahdgarx1 | tbh, my guild developed a system completely identical to SK without knowing it. |
| 10:30.35 | kahdgarx1 | So, I wrote an addon for tracking it. |
| 10:31.04 | kahdgarx1 | It's functional, but it really needs a complete rewrite. I'm not the most talented coder in the world. :P |
| 10:32.34 | kahdgarx1 | Where can I get the Suicide Kings addon? wowinteface? |
| 10:33.20 | wobin | aye, or curse |
| 10:33.24 | wobin | (I think) |
| 10:33.34 | kahdgarx1 | Found it. |
| 10:36.35 | kahdgarx1 | Hmm.. |
| 10:41.49 | kahdgarx1 | Is eqdkp still the 'standard' for regular DKP? |
| 10:42.18 | kahdgarx1 | Or does anyone have a suggestion for a tracking system for regular DKP, in game if possible. |
| 10:43.08 | kahdgarx1 | I think I'm just going to use a standard dkp tracking system, with points awarded at 1 point per item looted, then simply have everyone's bids be the entire sum of their dkp manually. Should work just fine, if I can find a suitable system. |
| 10:43.28 | kahdgarx1 | Any suggestions? |
| 10:44.16 | |Jelly|zZz | http://wowace.com/mediawiki/index.php?title=Category:Addons&from=D <- lots of dkp mods there |
| 10:44.48 | |Jelly|zZz | ok so there's one 8P |
| 10:45.03 | kahdgarx1 | lol |
| 10:46.16 | wobin | well done Jelly =) |
| 10:46.26 | kahdgarx1 | hm |
| 10:46.34 | kahdgarx1 | That could be useful. :-) |
| 10:46.36 | kahdgarx1 | Thanks Jelly |
| 10:52.16 | kahdgarx1 | Looks like I could most likely fairly easily write a Spend-All Module for it as well. :-) |
| 10:52.21 | kahdgarx1 | for dkpmon that is |
| 10:52.58 | kahdgarx1 | Has anyone here tried out Omen, the new threat meter? |
| 10:53.53 | wobin | aye |
| 10:53.57 | wobin | Not in a raid situation though |
| 10:54.08 | wobin | (in that I've not been in a raid since tbc =P) |
| 10:57.55 | kahdgarx1 | heh |
| 10:57.57 | kahdgarx1 | Any good? |
| 10:58.03 | kahdgarx1 | KTM is such a cpu hog. |
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| 10:59.54 | wobin | I quite like it =) |
| 11:00.09 | wobin | It's very accurate as far as I can tell, and relatively light on resources |
| 11:00.24 | kahdgarx1 | awesome |
| 11:00.55 | kahdgarx1 | KTM ticked me off today. I pulled aggro on nightbane when it showed me at like 95% of the tank's aggro, and I'm ranged. >_< |
| 11:01.00 | NimbleRabit | Does anyone know where I can get decent numbers of class breakdown at 70? |
| 11:01.25 | kahdgarx1 | http://www.warcraftrealms.com |
| 11:01.34 | kahdgarx1 | If that's what you're talking about. :P |
| 11:03.57 | NimbleRabit | perfect thanks |
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| 11:04.54 | NimbleRabit | gonna try and do some statistical analysis regarding % of classes at 70 in relation to the % of that class on 2100+ arena teams |
| 11:05.30 | dieck | bored? :) |
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| 11:06.10 | NimbleRabit | yes |
| 11:06.11 | NimbleRabit | yes I am |
| 11:06.37 | NimbleRabit | plus I think it would be a much better indicator to use in arguments than pure "class x is less represented in arena than class y" |
| 11:09.08 | dieck | don't trust any statistics you haven't forged yourself :) |
| 11:12.47 | wobin | 100% of my statistics are trustworthy! |
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| 11:13.33 | NimbleRabit | lol |
| 11:13.45 | NimbleRabit | wobin do you play on emerald dream? |
| 11:13.48 | NimbleRabit | your name is very familiar |
| 11:13.53 | wobin | No =) |
| 11:14.08 | wobin | I'm fairly much permanently on Argent Dawn (US) |
| 11:15.09 | NimbleRabit | hmm |
| 11:15.15 | NimbleRabit | well I think there's a wobin on my server =P |
| 11:15.25 | wobin | Damn him! |
| 11:15.30 | NimbleRabit | btw you guys would be surprised how fast you forget how to do statistics... |
| 11:15.35 | zenzelezz | they weleased wobin |
| 11:15.37 | NimbleRabit | or maybe it's 4am |
| 11:15.44 | NimbleRabit | hmmmmm |
| 11:15.45 | wobin | 15 minutes after end of highschool? |
| 11:15.54 | NimbleRabit | Yeah lol |
| 11:16.10 | NimbleRabit | statistics is like the only usefull class I ever took and the stuff is some of the hardest to remember |
| 11:16.52 | NimbleRabit | I'm trying to figure out how to even do tests with no standard deviation available in the data, brain is dying |
| 11:17.07 | NimbleRabit | oh nvm I remember now |
| 11:17.15 | NimbleRabit | lol god... |
| 11:24.13 | JoshBorke | 5 minutes after my stats final? |
| 11:24.27 | JoshBorke | no wait, it was 5 minutes BEFORE that i forgot |
| 11:24.51 | foxlit | statistics is useful? |
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| 11:36.43 | Fin | you finished high school? |
| 11:37.25 | foxlit | Yeah? |
| 11:38.33 | foxlit | Discrete math was more fun than stats, anyway. |
| 11:39.30 | Fin | yeah |
| 11:39.45 | Fin | never good to tell too many people about maths |
| 11:39.54 | krka | discreet math is better if you're shy! |
| 11:39.58 | dieck | I preferred Algera and Logics |
| 11:39.59 | Fin | haha! |
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| 11:43.44 | foxlit | Addition is my favourite subject! |
| 11:48.50 | Bleeter | I prefer division by 0 |
| 11:48.53 | Bleeter | those ones are easy |
| 11:48.58 | Fin | actually |
| 11:49.05 | Fin | not for a lot of people |
| 11:49.39 | Fin | it's arguable that as it's not possible, it's neither easy nor hard, for anyone |
| 11:51.08 | Bleeter | but that's getting all philosophical, just easy to write down 'No', and move to the next question. |
| 11:51.41 | Fin | Bleeter: tell me about 'No' - how does that make you feel? |
| 11:52.46 | Bleeter | Fin: Do my feelings matter to you? |
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| 11:55.36 | Fin | Bleeter: tell me about your feelings, should they matter to me? |
| 11:56.26 | Bleeter | Fin: why do you think my feelings would matter to you? |
| 11:57.50 | Fin | Bleeter: I think we're making progress here - let's dig a little deeper: see if you can work that through and find the answer without my help |
| 11:59.11 | Bleeter | Fin: ok |
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| 12:15.44 | kahdgarx1 | morning cladhaire |
| 12:16.50 | cladhaire | morning |
| 12:19.22 | Fin | hello cladhaire! |
| 12:20.10 | Josh_Borke | morning |
| 12:22.18 | wobin | table.remove removes from the end, yeah? |
| 12:22.33 | cladhaire | wobin: yep... pop and push =) |
| 12:22.41 | cladhaire | instant stack, just add values :P |
| 12:22.57 | wobin | table.remove(mytable, 1) removes from the head? |
| 12:23.02 | krka | table.remove removes where you want it to remove |
| 12:23.48 | cladhaire | wobin: correct, and renumbers accordingly |
| 12:24.00 | wobin | cool |
| 12:29.49 | Shirik|Somewhere | eh |
| 12:29.53 | Shirik|Somewhere | for a stack, there is one other thing you want to do |
| 12:30.15 | Shirik | setmetatable(tbl, {__mode = "v"}) |
| 12:30.27 | Shirik | in most cases |
| 12:30.41 | Shirik | s/most/many/ |
| 12:31.16 | Josh_Borke | why? |
| 12:32.57 | krka | i concur - why? |
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| 12:34.28 | Josh_Borke | cladhaire: concur and ask why |
| 12:35.12 | Bleeter | wtf |
| 12:35.32 | Bleeter | wow won't even stay 'up' for me, it just shuts down again |
| 12:35.56 | Bleeter | maybe it saw me type 'lolz server restart in linux ftw!' into the crash reporter and thought it'd have some fun with me |
| 12:36.04 | zenzelezz | got to hate it when it won't stay up |
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| 12:45.36 | Shirik | heh |
| 12:45.48 | Shirik | because, usually when you're creating a structure like that |
| 12:45.54 | Shirik | if the variable disappears, you don't want it to remain in the stack |
| 12:46.25 | Shirik | again, s/usually/many times/ |
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| 12:59.27 | Shirik | http://wowi.pastey.net/58700 |
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| 13:01.59 | krka | what about stacks where you _only_ store something on the stack? |
| 13:02.05 | krka | that seems like a more common case to me |
| 13:02.31 | krka | i can't even come up with a case where you need a stack, but expect objects in it to disappear randomly |
| 13:04.21 | Shirik | hm, we use it in RDX actually, but I can't think of an easy way to explain it |
| 13:04.36 | Shirik | but your statement about when you only store it there is why I changed from "most" to "manY" |
| 13:04.42 | Shirik | which may even need to be changed to "some" |
| 13:05.29 | cladhaire | well, its not a stack |
| 13:05.30 | cladhaire | =) |
| 13:05.34 | cladhaire | if things disappear from it |
| 13:05.47 | Shirik | hm.. I guess |
| 13:06.00 | Shirik | it's a magical stack |
| 13:06.02 | cladhaire | a stack only has two operations |
| 13:06.03 | Shirik | =P |
| 13:06.07 | Shirik | push and pull ya ya |
| 13:06.14 | cladhaire | pop |
| 13:06.16 | cladhaire | nub |
| 13:06.19 | Shirik | pull |
| 13:06.25 | cladhaire | yeah.. no. |
| 13:06.43 | Shirik | motorola calls it pull so I call it pull :P |
| 13:06.52 | Shirik | the operations are pula, pulb, puld, pulx, puly, pulm |
| 13:07.13 | Shirik | which complement psha, pshb, pshd, pshx, pshy, pshm |
| 13:07.17 | krka | i agree with cladhaire -- you're probably not using it as a stack |
| 13:07.30 | Shirik | it's true it's not really a stack |
| 13:07.38 | wobin | More of a pile =) |
| 13:07.50 | wobin | Or a Compost Heap |
| 13:08.06 | dieck | push, pop and knockover? :) |
| 13:09.58 | krka | push, pop, search for food |
| 13:10.08 | Shirik | I want popcorn now :( |
| 13:10.16 | cladhaire | why |
| 13:10.18 | cladhaire | popcorn pops |
| 13:10.19 | cladhaire | not pulls |
| 13:11.01 | Shirik | >.> |
| 13:12.41 | Shirik | I'm trying to find the documentation so you know I didn't just make that up :P |
| 13:12.45 | Shirik | but freescale's site is a pos |
| 13:13.35 | Shirik | bah, I have to log in |
| 13:13.42 | Shirik | wtf, have to log in to get free documentation |
| 13:15.31 | Shirik | well I think this is it http://www.freescale.com/files/microcontrollers/doc/ref_manual/S12CPUV2.pdf?fpsp=1 |
| 13:15.35 | Shirik | have to go to class/breakfast now though |
| 13:16.31 | Shirik|AFK | ya that's it, see section 6 :) look for PULA |
| 13:18.25 | cladhaire | i'm not debating the API |
| 13:18.43 | cladhaire | but a stack, as defined as a data structure, traditionally has two methods, push and pop =) |
| 13:20.10 | krka | push/pop, peek/poke, put/pull, place/pass, pair/part |
| 13:20.13 | krka | or something |
| 13:24.12 | cladhaire | hehe :P |
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| 13:56.45 | Shirik|AFK | tbh, I first learned it as push and pop |
| 13:57.07 | Shirik|AFK | and I hated it when I first started learning HCS12 instructions... but eventually I just got used to it; kinda habit |
| 13:57.16 | Shirik|AFK | never heard place/pass pair/part though |
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| 14:08.27 | krka | Shirik|AFK: i made those up! |
| 14:08.37 | Shirik|AFK | =( |
| 14:08.44 | Shirik|AFK | I didn't make up push/pull! |
| 14:08.57 | krka | yeah. i see those signs on doors |
| 14:08.58 | krka | very useful |
| 14:09.49 | Shirik|AFK | >.> |
| 14:10.56 | Nom- | bleh |
| 14:11.03 | Nom- | can't see what we're doing wrong in Gruul |
| 14:11.08 | Nom- | keep getting pwned by silence |
| 14:11.45 | Nom- | any suggestions? healing seems good (healer mana is definately good) |
| 14:12.03 | cladhaire | hots |
| 14:12.06 | cladhaire | pw:s before silence |
| 14:12.15 | Shirik|AFK | l2tank |
| 14:12.18 | Shirik|AFK | =P |
| 14:12.38 | Gnancy | stack the hots |
| 14:12.39 | Shirik|AFK | can't the silence be resisted? |
| 14:12.41 | Gnancy | ah too slow |
| 14:12.45 | cladhaire | yes it can |
| 14:12.53 | Shirik|AFK | if your priests don't have that 5% reduction talent |
| 14:12.54 | Shirik|AFK | slap them |
| 14:13.01 | Shirik|AFK | who am I kidding, priests don't heal anymore |
| 14:13.07 | Gnancy | bah its the tanks |
| 14:13.16 | Gnancy | its very hard to find tanks on my server |
| 14:14.24 | nevcairiel | isnt the silence like 2s |
| 14:14.25 | nevcairiel | ? |
| 14:14.31 | nevcairiel | every tank should survive that :o |
| 14:15.04 | Shirik|AFK | well |
| 14:15.07 | Shirik|AFK | 2s translates into more |
| 14:15.15 | Shirik|AFK | people may have been in the middle of a heal that got cancelled |
| 14:15.21 | Shirik|AFK | they have to queue a new heal after the silence |
| 14:15.21 | Shirik|AFK | etc. |
| 14:15.23 | zenzelezz | if you top him off before the silence he should survive |
| 14:15.39 | Shirik|AFK | not saying that hots/etc shouldn't eliminate that but yeah |
| 14:16.10 | Fin | is it possible to accurately tell your target's location (as in, their coordinates)? |
| 14:17.29 | Shirik|AFK | occasionally |
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| 14:17.53 | Shirik|AFK | not in instances, naturally |
| 14:17.53 | Shirik|AFK | and only if your target is in your raid/party |
| 14:17.53 | Shirik|AFK | (without them also having an addon) |
| 14:18.22 | Fin | OK, thanks |
| 14:18.29 | Fin | actually, that's a good point |
| 14:19.31 | krka | ACE has everything!!! |
| 14:19.42 | Nom- | no its a 4 second silence |
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| 14:19.45 | Fin | that's why I was wonderin |
| 14:19.52 | Nom- | and when you get up to grow 8-10 you have to chain cast heals |
| 14:19.52 | Shirik|AFK | http://www.wowwiki.com/API_GetPlayerMapPosition |
| 14:19.58 | Maldivia | krka: so you're saying ace is bloated ? |
| 14:20.05 | krka | no wai |
| 14:20.08 | Fin | nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo |
| 14:20.13 | Shirik|AFK | ACE: All [you] Could Ever [need]? |
| 14:20.14 | Fin | not again! |
| 14:20.17 | krka | it's just so good that it can do everything, without even being bloated |
| 14:20.26 | Maldivia | heh |
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| 14:20.58 | foxlit | Anyone done ogri'la quests since 2.1.2? |
| 14:21.01 | Dotted | Shirik|AFK except for the fact its Ace not ACE (whoever got that idea in the first place :/) |
| 14:21.09 | foxlit | Abyssal infernals keep on vanishing after doing for me |
| 14:21.20 | Shirik|AFK | Dotted: I'm aware of that, otherwise I wouldn't have made that comment >> 102:192:37 12‹krka12› ACE has everything!!! |
| 14:21.41 | Fin | Shirik|AFK: danke |
| 14:21.45 | Shirik|AFK | =) |
| 14:21.52 | Dotted | ah... written before i joined :p |
| 14:22.25 | Maldivia | Shirik: you should have rewritten it as Ace Can Everything, then :9 |
| 14:22.41 | Dotted | haha |
| 14:22.42 | Maldivia | or some other clever use if a C :) |
| 14:23.04 | Maldivia | of* |
| 14:23.13 | Dotted | wellk if you want a negative one, you could say - Ace Con's Everything |
| 14:23.14 | krka | recursive definition: ACE Cures Everything |
| 14:23.35 | foxlit | Annoying Components Embedded! |
| 14:23.42 | Dotted | YEEEHAW |
| 14:23.57 | krka | foxlit: you win it |
| 14:24.46 | Dotted | but then it doesnt have anything to do with Ace tho |
| 14:25.02 | Fin | yeesh, this channel talks about Ace more than #wowace |
| 14:25.29 | Shirik|AFK | http://wowi.pastey.net/58846 |
| 14:25.31 | Dotted | every channel needs alittle Ace now and then :p |
| 14:25.34 | Shirik|AFK | on that note, class time, /wooshes |
| 14:25.51 | Maldivia | better yet, on that note - off from work :9 |
| 14:26.03 | foxlit | Fin: that's cause #wowace is aceing everything |
| 14:26.11 | Dotted | even better, already home |
| 14:26.14 | deltron | lol |
| 14:26.49 | Fin | OK, so, has anyone like, seen any good movies lately? |
| 14:26.51 | Fin | read any good books? |
| 14:27.07 | Shirik|AFK | read any good code? |
| 14:27.17 | Fin | I just finished Anansi Boys by Neil Gaiman |
| 14:27.19 | deltron | i'm reading the baroque cycle |
| 14:27.20 | Fin | it was great :) |
| 14:27.22 | Shirik|AFK | s/ready/debugged/ |
| 14:27.27 | Shirik|AFK | er |
| 14:27.31 | Shirik|AFK | s/ready/read/ |
| 14:27.32 | deltron | Fin: that's my next book after this series i'm reading |
| 14:27.39 | Fin | it's about a guy whose father dies, and he finds out that his father was actually Anansi, the trickster god |
| 14:27.51 | krka | no spoilers! |
| 14:28.02 | deltron | lol |
| 14:28.11 | Fin | I never got through that, deltron, I love Neal Stephenson like mad but it was just too heavy for me |
| 14:28.13 | krka | just for that i am going to spoil some book for everyone else |
| 14:28.14 | krka | hmm |
| 14:28.17 | Fin | nah krka, that's the beginning of the book |
| 14:28.26 | krka | you spoiled the best part of the book then! |
| 14:28.32 | krka | i love unexpected beginnings |
| 14:28.34 | Fin | how do you know? |
| 14:28.36 | deltron | Fin: agreed that it's very heavy, but it's fascinating, how far did you get in? |
| 14:28.45 | Fin | deltron: halfway through the System of the World |
| 14:28.56 | deltron | ah farther than me :P |
| 14:29.15 | deltron | i'm on odalisque right now |
| 14:29.19 | Fin | you know he wrote the first book completely in long hand with an old fashioned quill fountain pen? |
| 14:29.30 | deltron | haha did not know that |
| 14:29.38 | deltron | I love his books though |
| 14:29.48 | deltron | snow crash is supposedly being made into a movie |
| 14:29.59 | deltron | ...again |
| 14:30.01 | Fin | every single one of his other books is great |
| 14:30.08 | Fin | that I know of |
| 14:30.18 | Fin | actually I've never read his first one, errr |
| 14:30.21 | Fin | U something |
| 14:30.22 | deltron | i can't imagine the amount of research he did for these books |
| 14:30.59 | deltron | the big u |
| 14:31.03 | deltron | never read that either |
| 14:31.04 | Fin | you ever read any of his articles in Wired? |
| 14:31.08 | Fin | there's some awesome stuff |
| 14:31.10 | deltron | yeah |
| 14:31.18 | Fin | Mother Earth, Motherboard |
| 14:31.20 | deltron | he's a brilliant guy |
| 14:31.27 | Fin | he's one of my official Heroes |
| 14:31.30 | deltron | yep |
| 14:32.08 | krka | maybe i should read some of that |
| 14:32.15 | deltron | you should |
| 14:32.29 | deltron | cryptonomicon is still one of my favorite books of all time |
| 14:34.12 | krka | better than ender's game? |
| 14:34.22 | krka | actually, i am not sure i have a favorite book of all time |
| 14:35.20 | Fin | Lord of the Rings, have to say, loved that one despite feeling a bit cheesy about it now |
| 14:35.39 | deltron | <3 lotr |
| 14:35.47 | deltron | I never started the ender's game stuff |
| 14:35.54 | deltron | that's on my list of to-read |
| 14:35.56 | Fin | some of the Iain M. Banks Culture novels are in my top list as well I reckon |
| 14:36.01 | krka | the first book can easily be read on its own |
| 14:36.05 | deltron | I really need an e-book reader |
| 14:36.10 | krka | the followups are kinda nice, but not required reading |
| 14:36.12 | deltron | I miss my old rca e-book |
| 14:36.21 | Fin | ugh, no way, I don't think I could ever get used to something that's not paper |
| 14:36.22 | deltron | I also want to read discworld |
| 14:36.27 | krka | hobbs farseer + liveship is really good |
| 14:36.56 | Fin | Discworld novels are great, but they're not quite what I'd class as Great great :) |
| 14:37.10 | deltron | hitchiker's guide to the galaxy is Great heh |
| 14:37.17 | Fin | I read them inbetween novels, they're nice light smiley books :) |
| 14:37.40 | Fin | yeah, I've just finished Salmon of Doubt as well recently |
| 14:37.42 | Fin | last month |
| 14:37.44 | krka | deltron: it's fun and all, but a bit incoherent and without a real story |
| 14:37.49 | Fin | really interesting |
| 14:37.53 | krka | depends on what you expect from a great book i guess |
| 14:38.10 | Fin | also |
| 14:38.59 | Fin | my current favourite sci-fi ever ever ever oh my god I'm drooling just thinking about it: the Night's Dawn Trilogy by Peter F. Hamilton |
| 14:39.02 | Fin | oh my god it's great |
| 14:39.14 | krka | never heard of it |
| 14:39.15 | Fin | I don't think it'd be to everyone's exact taste, but for me it was perfect |
| 14:39.26 | krka | i kinda like otherland |
| 14:39.37 | krka | though it seemed slow paced |
| 14:40.16 | Fin | but I do think that explosions and massive battles between mech warriors with oversized weapons is not just trash to fill pages :) |
| 14:40.21 | Fin | (it's not all like that of course) |
| 14:40.22 | deltron | the humor in hgttg is awesome heh |
| 14:40.29 | Fin | otherland? |
| 14:40.35 | Gnancy | Tad Williams |
| 14:40.37 | Fin | what's it about? who by? |
| 14:40.40 | Gnancy | good sstuff |
| 14:40.55 | Gnancy | its a near future fiction |
| 14:41.22 | Fin | what's the first book called, please? |
| 14:41.42 | krka | ltfg |
| 14:41.48 | Gnancy | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Otherland |
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| 14:41.59 | krka | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Otherland |
| 14:41.59 | Gnancy | City of Golden Shadow |
| 14:42.01 | krka | damn it!!! |
| 14:42.04 | Gnancy | hehe |
| 14:42.05 | krka | i hate you Gnancy |
| 14:42.14 | Fin | thanks |
| 14:42.20 | krka | screw you guys i am going home [in half an hour!] |
| 14:42.26 | Fin | is it remotely funny? |
| 14:42.28 | Gnancy | awww |
| 14:42.38 | Gnancy | funny .... hmm not hugely |
| 14:42.41 | Fin | doesn't have to be comedy, would be nice if it has a sense of humour though |
| 14:42.43 | deltron | you suck :( |
| 14:42.45 | Gnancy | but good? |
| 14:42.46 | krka | not really funny |
| 14:42.47 | Gnancy | very |
| 14:42.48 | deltron | I just got to work 2 hours ago |
| 14:42.52 | Fin | the picture is making me think of night elves |
| 14:43.01 | krka | heh, now that i read the summary of the characters, i remember how odd they wer |
| 14:43.12 | krka | "With the help of her bushman technology student !Xabbu" |
| 14:43.19 | Gnancy | it has no real one protaganist |
| 14:43.24 | Fin | hmm, sounds OK |
| 14:43.51 | Gnancy | it follows a cast of progatinsts |
| 14:44.19 | Gnancy | also if you like Tad grab the Memory, Sorrow and Thorn triglogy |
| 14:44.46 | Gnancy | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Memory%2C_Sorrow%2C_and_Thorn |
| 14:44.55 | Gnancy | really really good stuff |
| 14:45.04 | Gnancy | even if i cant spell |
| 14:45.17 | krka | Sam Fredericks - Orlando's best friend met over the Net. She gets a kick out of pretending to be a guy on the Net. |
| 14:45.21 | krka | kinda reversed there, isn't it? |
| 14:45.34 | deltron | lol |
| 14:45.34 | Gnancy | dont spoil it!! |
| 14:45.48 | TS|Skrom | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=112471549&postId=1123619128&sid=1#6 what's funny is the only person being a tool was the guy calling the other guy one XD |
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| 14:58.44 | cog|work | GOOD MORNING, CAPS! |
| 14:59.00 | zenzelezz | who's Caps? |
| 14:59.14 | cog|work | is that considered a recursive greeting? |
| 15:00.36 | Gnancy | haha |
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| 15:02.17 | Maldivia | cogwheel: function greeting() greeting() end, that's a recursive greeting :) |
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| 15:03.13 | Cairenn | hi hi |
| 15:04.34 | Maldivia | morning :) |
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| 15:23.49 | cog|work | I love seeing things like -- HACK ... -- END HACK in blizzard code >< |
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| 15:24.38 | krka | we all make hacks at times |
| 15:25.34 | cog|work | yes we do :) |
| 15:26.03 | cog|work | Funny thing is the code I just saw it in doesn't seem very hackish to me :P |
| 15:26.29 | krka | gief pastey |
| 15:26.54 | cog|work | FrameXML\DressUpFrame.lua: 13 |
| 15:28.28 | krka | i dont have that code nearby |
| 15:29.22 | cog|work | http://wdn.wowinterface.com/code/2106692/FrameXML/DressUpFrame.lua |
| 15:29.45 | krka | yes, that's a hack |
| 15:29.58 | [Ammo] | it seems like a hack yeah |
| 15:30.08 | cog|work | pft... you guys are no fun |
| 15:30.17 | sag_ich_nicht | [17:23] <cog|work> I love seeing things like -- HACK ... -- END HACK in blizzard code >< <--lol |
| 15:30.32 | krka | weird hack even |
| 15:30.41 | cog|work | makes sense to me... |
| 15:30.49 | cog|work | given the context |
| 15:30.51 | [Ammo] | they should have added unique background for all chars |
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| 15:31.08 | sag_ich_nicht | they should put a huge -- GIGANTIC FRIGGIN HACK around the tooltip/cooldown code D: |
| 15:31.09 | krka | why would gnomes have dwarf textures? |
| 15:31.10 | [Ammo] | my gnome should be shown one foot on the crushed skull of a leper gnome in front of gnomeregan |
| 15:31.23 | krka | ah... backgrounds |
| 15:31.25 | cog|work | krka: because they both have teh same starting area |
| 15:31.26 | [Ammo] | yeah |
| 15:31.31 | krka | i see |
| 15:31.48 | krka | i'd make it a lookup table |
| 15:32.02 | krka | StartingLocation[race1] = race2 |
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| 15:32.04 | krka | or something |
| 15:32.12 | krka | easier to understand |
| 15:32.15 | sag_ich_nicht | KriLL3 write the code, post it and it'll probably get implemented :P |
| 15:32.55 | [Ammo] | probably not, since this works fine |
| 15:32.59 | [Ammo] | and it's not really an improvement :) |
| 15:33.22 | krka | oh, you meant krka there, right? |
| 15:33.44 | cog|work | but do you agree its hackishness diminishes given its intended purpose? |
| 15:33.44 | krka | [Ammo]: code clarity are improvements! |
| 15:33.56 | [Ammo] | it's pretty clear what they're doing righ there |
| 15:34.01 | [Ammo] | doesn't make it pretty ofcourse :) |
| 15:34.06 | krka | wasn't to me |
| 15:34.15 | krka | then again, i didn't really read the function names and stuff |
| 15:34.30 | krka | hacks are tolerable as long as they aren't easily fixed |
| 15:34.32 | krka | this one is |
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| 15:36.46 | sag_ich_nicht | [17:33] <krka> oh, you meant krka there, right? <--friggin tabcomplete |
| 15:36.55 | sag_ich_nicht | i was in a hurry because we were SUPPOSED to raid now |
| 15:37.00 | sag_ich_nicht | ...nobody is online |
| 15:37.00 | sag_ich_nicht | D: |
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| 15:53.49 | cladhaire | Hrm.. would I gimp myself horribly if i went a mid-level BM build, but went down to Go For the Threat in marks, and Clever Traps in Survival? |
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| 15:54.58 | Shirik | cladhaire: Not at all |
| 15:55.19 | Shirik | (take this with a grain of salt - I hate BM) Go For the Throat is actually really good for BM hunters |
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| 15:58.01 | zenzelezz | my hunter finally dinged 70 today; now I'm oogling the talent calculator checking if there's any fun new spec to try... but I still end up with most of it in BM :-o |
| 15:58.22 | zenzelezz | how well does your pet tank while farming if you're not BM? |
| 15:58.28 | Shirik | he doesn't :P |
| 15:58.38 | Shirik | actually I don't give him enough credit, he can |
| 15:58.46 | Shirik | but I rarely even have him out |
| 15:58.51 | zenzelezz | then how do you keep mobs at range? Or do you melee :-o |
| 15:59.02 | Shirik | imp wing clip and a lot of kiting |
| 15:59.08 | Shirik | concussive shot, scatter shot |
| 15:59.13 | Lysistrata | Oo" |
| 15:59.23 | Shirik | maybe I'll fraps myself sometime |
| 15:59.28 | Shirik | it's not hard you just have to get used to it I guess |
| 15:59.28 | Lysistrata | Well thats WORK! :P Just get your pet ... ;) |
| 15:59.33 | Shirik | bah |
| 15:59.34 | Shirik | he's worthless |
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| 16:00.10 | Lysistrata | Problem with kiting in mob area for me -> Run, Attract more Mobs, FD, start over xD |
| 16:00.20 | Shirik | be more careful :P |
| 16:00.24 | zenzelezz | granted my gear is pretty mediocre right now; just 60-70 quest rewards, my pet seems to have way more survivability than me |
| 16:01.01 | cladhaire | Shirik: i just want enough BM to have a good tank, so i was gonna take GFTT and Clever Traps for instance viability |
| 16:01.07 | Lysistrata | same here zenzelezz ^^ though me gear is more likely to be desc. by: crap |
| 16:01.24 | Shirik | oh I never said BM was bad it all; it's very respectable |
| 16:01.27 | Shirik | I just can't bear it :P |
| 16:01.33 | zenzelezz | looking down the MM tree I'm not all that interested in most of the talents, more into Survival |
| 16:01.54 | Shirik | so |
| 16:01.55 | zenzelezz | but still a lot of filler talents |
| 16:01.59 | Shirik | I think I left my student ID card on my tray |
| 16:02.02 | Shirik | when I ate breakfast this morning :( |
| 16:02.07 | Shirik | I can't find it :( |
| 16:02.17 | Lysistrata | Just get a new one Shirik? |
| 16:02.18 | cladhaire | Shirik: that seems like a very silly thing do to |
| 16:02.33 | Shirik | Lysistrata: I'm pretty sure they'll charge me >.> |
| 16:02.41 | Shirik | cladhaire: It's cause you pay with it so |
| 16:02.51 | cladhaire | i'm kidding :P |
| 16:03.00 | Shirik | on another ote |
| 16:03.02 | Shirik | did you get my email? |
| 16:03.10 | cladhaire | yes, haven't looked yet |
| 16:03.22 | Shirik | good, cause it'll segfault if you do "I HAVE A VAR ITZ 4" |
| 16:03.23 | Lysistrata | Shirik sure they will but it ain't be that much ;) |
| 16:03.24 | Shirik | or something similar >.> |
| 16:03.26 | Shirik | fixed now |
| 16:03.51 | Shirik | any initialization during variable declaration causes a segfault in that version :/ |
| 16:08.16 | cladhaire | what about this: |
| 16:08.19 | cladhaire | wget ftp://site5:onetime@fairfax.dreamhost.com/transfer/atruth-gallery.tar.gz |
| 16:08.34 | cladhaire | oh |
| 16:08.34 | cladhaire | hai |
| 16:08.35 | cladhaire | lol |
| 16:08.40 | Lysistrata | Oo |
| 16:08.43 | cladhaire | thats a 9g file |
| 16:08.46 | cladhaire | you shoudl avoid downloading it =) |
| 16:08.47 | cladhaire | http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=cVbh0xgRZVVbZMhhr |
| 16:08.54 | [Ammo] | :) |
| 16:09.19 | [Ammo] | how fast is their link |
| 16:09.21 | [Ammo] | I'm on gigabit :p |
| 16:09.28 | cladhaire | dreamhost? |
| 16:09.28 | [Ammo] | *inno* |
| 16:09.29 | cladhaire | horrible |
| 16:09.35 | [Ammo] | k :) |
| 16:10.53 | cladhaire | Shirik: Do you think I give anything up with a build liek that? |
| 16:11.06 | Shirik | hm? |
| 16:11.10 | cladhaire | http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=cVbh0xgRZVVbZMhhr |
| 16:11.17 | Shirik | oh |
| 16:11.23 | Shirik | I'm thinking "build" as program build >< |
| 16:11.31 | cladhaire | lol |
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| 16:11.56 | Shirik | do you do raiding on this char? |
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| 16:13.17 | cladhaire | no |
| 16:13.23 | cladhaire | i'll respec if i ever did |
| 16:13.24 | Shirik | oh that's a lv 58 spec |
| 16:13.25 | Shirik | lol |
| 16:13.47 | cladhaire | :P |
| 16:13.48 | Shirik | yeah because the lack of ferocious inspiration would hurt a raid given a BM hunter |
| 16:13.49 | cladhaire | i'm level 58 atm |
| 16:13.59 | Shirik | no actually that looks pretty good |
| 16:14.00 | cladhaire | yeah, i'd specc down to that |
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| 16:14.21 | Shirik | improved mend pet if anything |
| 16:14.26 | Shirik | is the one thing you may want to look again at |
| 16:14.31 | cladhaire | probably end up somthing like this: http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=cVbh0xgRihMZVVbZMhhr |
| 16:14.59 | Shirik | also there are those that argue you should take imp hunter's mark over efficiency if you're BM |
| 16:14.59 | cladhaire | hrm, maybe drop spirit bond for it? |
| 16:15.05 | Shirik | I don't entirely agree with it but hey |
| 16:15.13 | zenzelezz | I utterly love Improved Mend Pet |
| 16:15.15 | cladhaire | i thought about it =) |
| 16:15.19 | zenzelezz | debuff? I think not |
| 16:15.44 | cladhaire | hrm.. is spirit bond worth it? |
| 16:15.50 | cladhaire | its 64 health every 10 seconds |
| 16:15.50 | Shirik | it seems like a lot to me |
| 16:15.53 | Shirik | but I've never had it so I don't know |
| 16:15.57 | |FF|Im2good4u | u forget the most importent think u should take marksmanship over beastmastery |
| 16:16.05 | Shirik | I decided not to say that ^^; |
| 16:16.14 | Shirik | cladhaire already knows I <3 MM :P |
| 16:16.16 | cladhaire | i need something that can tank for me |
| 16:16.23 | cladhaire | i need BM for that =) |
| 16:16.34 | cladhaire | i'm not a very .. shall we say.. active player with my hunter |
| 16:16.41 | |Jelly| | MM = love. |
| 16:16.46 | cladhaire | MM is too many buttons :P |
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| 16:16.50 | Shirik | it is lol |
| 16:16.55 | cladhaire | http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=cVbh0gxRZVxbZMhhr |
| 16:16.58 | cladhaire | that's my level 58 |
| 16:16.59 | |Jelly| | Too many buttons? rofl |
| 16:17.32 | Shirik | unfortunately, too many hunters think MM is |
| 16:17.43 | Shirik | simple shot rotation over and over agan until you're OOM |
| 16:17.45 | Shirik | then afk autoshot |
| 16:17.47 | Shirik | it's not. |
| 16:17.55 | |Jelly| | It's not? |
| 16:17.58 | |Jelly| | What?! |
| 16:17.59 | cladhaire | well this is a solo leveling build. |
| 16:18.00 | |Jelly| | 8P |
| 16:18.10 | Shirik | yeh not talking to you cladhaire ^^; just saying this in general |
| 16:18.22 | Shirik | BM is by far easiest way to level |
| 16:18.36 | cladhaire | you think a BM spec like i propose is a good hybrid way to level? |
| 16:18.44 | cladhaire | i think it helps with the survival for trapping, and MM for focus |
| 16:18.52 | Shirik | yes it looks pretty solid |
| 16:18.52 | cladhaire | i mean |
| 16:19.01 | cladhaire | beastial wrath doesn' help me unless i'm up against a fear mob |
| 16:19.09 | cladhaire | and.. concussive shot + run like hell |
| 16:19.10 | cladhaire | not too hard |
| 16:19.46 | cladhaire | WHOA |
| 16:19.50 | cladhaire | Horde control HFP |
| 16:19.51 | cladhaire | wtf |
| 16:19.54 | Shirik | lol |
| 16:20.15 | cladhaire | there are like 5 of them |
| 16:20.17 | cladhaire | I know, I'm one of them |
| 16:20.26 | cladhaire | (on my alt *cough*) |
| 16:20.41 | cladhaire | i miss imp AoTH tho |
| 16:21.19 | Shirik | I said that at first too when I dropped it |
| 16:21.24 | Shirik | quickly got over it :) |
| 16:21.27 | cladhaire | :P |
| 16:23.11 | Nom- | bleh i think iw worked out what's killing us |
| 16:23.21 | Nom- | the tanks keep getting crushed because gruul hits so hard |
| 16:23.29 | Shirik | .. |
| 16:23.35 | Shirik | tanks should not be getting crushed |
| 16:23.36 | Shirik | this is bad |
| 16:23.39 | [Ammo] | yeah |
| 16:23.41 | Nom- | fast i mean |
| 16:23.43 | [Ammo] | how mnay grows? |
| 16:23.47 | cladhaire | nope |
| 16:24.07 | Nom- | No they can get crushed shirik...warriors can't reach the magic crush immune number on a faster hitting mob |
| 16:24.23 | Shirik | I am not with the majority and I realize there is no magical number |
| 16:24.38 | Shirik | but if their being crushed is killing you, it indicates that they are being crushed far too often |
| 16:24.40 | Nom- | There is... 104% avoidance |
| 16:24.56 | Shirik | I still side with the fact that there is no such thing as immune to crushing blows |
| 16:25.02 | Nom- | Paladins can easily reach it with 490 defense and 20% base dodge/block/parry |
| 16:25.11 | Shirik | the only formulas I've ever seen are player-made |
| 16:25.13 | [Ammo] | there is always a chance to get crushed |
| 16:25.16 | Shirik | which are subject to stastical error |
| 16:25.20 | Shirik | so I don't believe in them |
| 16:25.27 | Shirik | statistical* |
| 16:25.35 | [Ammo] | there is just a way to prevent it happening too often |
| 16:25.39 | Nom- | Block and Crushing Blow are mutually exclusive |
| 16:25.40 | zenzelezz | I can't recall how often Gruul hits; but any mob can land a crushing blow on a tank if it lands more than two hits in 6 seconds |
| 16:25.51 | zenzelezz | *5 |
| 16:26.02 | Nom- | zenzelezz: Yeah...he's hitting faster than 5 seconds |
| 16:26.09 | Nom- | maybe 3 seconds at the absolute best case |
| 16:26.10 | [Ammo] | every mob is |
| 16:26.15 | Shirik | Nom- That only implies that when you get 100% block, you have 0% crush rate |
| 16:26.17 | Shirik | Nothing more |
| 16:26.19 | zenzelezz | you need 3 hits to crush a tank |
| 16:26.29 | zenzelezz | 2 to take down Shield Block, one to crush |
| 16:26.33 | Nom- | Shirik: No, it's avoidance, combined dodge/block/parry/miss chance |
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| 16:26.54 | Shirik | ok, when your dodge+block+parry+miss rate reaches 100%, you reach 0% crush rate |
| 16:26.56 | zenzelezz | Nom-: but you can't reach enough without shield block |
| 16:26.56 | Shirik | is what that implies |
| 16:27.25 | Shirik | which says nothing more than when you reach 100% mitigation, you reach 0% crush rate |
| 16:27.33 | Shirik | which is a moronic statement |
| 16:27.53 | |Jelly| | all lies! |
| 16:27.57 | Shirik | "If you don't take damage, you can't get crushed" |
| 16:28.06 | Nom- | err you still take damage |
| 16:28.08 | zenzelezz | i can't recall Gruul hitting fast enough to blow shield block, but phase 2 Malchezaar has done it occasionally if I don't dodge/parry |
| 16:28.16 | Nom- | block is just a damage reduction |
| 16:28.34 | Nom- | You might block 200 points of damage, and the rest still hits you |
| 16:28.44 | zenzelezz | the point is a blocked hit can't be crushing or critical |
| 16:28.52 | Nom- | precisely |
| 16:29.12 | Nom- | Well, he is...we have 3 tanks on gruul and they're all getting crushed |
| 16:29.17 | Nom- | and these guys do know what they're doing |
| 16:29.35 | Nom- | And they were all protection spec tonight |
| 16:29.42 | Shirik | oh |
| 16:29.49 | foxlit | Shirik: Need 102.5% anyway |
| 16:29.57 | zenzelezz | I can't say anything for sure without actually seeing them, but you shouldn't take more than an occasional crush |
| 16:30.00 | Shirik | you're aware of the fact that one person takes a crapton of damage every so often, right? |
| 16:30.18 | Nom- | Shirik: Hurtful strike, yea |
| 16:30.25 | Shirik | that's what it's called ya |
| 16:30.34 | zenzelezz | and they don't lie either, it hurts |
| 16:30.40 | Nom- | indeed |
| 16:30.44 | Nom- | that was the problem |
| 16:30.57 | Nom- | it was getting to the point where hurtful strike hits for 8k and then it hits crushing |
| 16:31.00 | Nom- | bam 12k |
| 16:31.08 | zenzelezz | HS don't crush |
| 16:31.09 | Nom- | if the OT wasn't on 100% hitspoints he gets 1 shotted |
| 16:31.19 | Nom- | It was |
| 16:31.21 | zenzelezz | special attacks just land |
| 16:31.30 | Nom- | I was seeing them come up as crushing...unless pitbull lies |
| 16:31.52 | cladhaire | hurtful strike is an ability, not an attack.. it can't crust afaik |
| 16:32.14 | |Jelly| | grrrr |
| 16:32.14 | cog|work | what could possibly be happening on a thursday that's overloading the wow forums? |
| 16:32.25 | |Jelly| | Blizzard needs to do ____________ to their forums! |
| 16:33.05 | Nom- | hmm |
| 16:33.11 | Nom- | maybe pitbull is lieing |
| 16:33.18 | Nom- | the crushes were all on the MT |
| 16:33.23 | Nom- | they were happening tho... |
| 16:33.26 | |Jelly| | All I want to do is bitch about how ugly my shoulders are but they're busy! |
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| 16:33.39 | zenzelezz | they can happen, but only from normal attacks (which should be the MT) |
| 16:34.14 | Industrial | so you are using a unitframe mod as a combatlog? |
| 16:34.15 | Industrial | :P |
| 16:34.28 | |Jelly| | Hells yeah. |
| 16:34.35 | Industrial | does it make you pancakes too? |
| 16:34.41 | Shirik | RDX does! |
| 16:34.54 | Industrial | that is all I have to say. |
| 16:34.57 | foxlit | Shirik, quit slacking and ACE the RDX Kitchen sink. |
| 16:34.58 | |Jelly| | Waffles!?!? |
| 16:35.03 | Nom- | nono .. just you see crushes come up in huge font compared to normal, and i was seeing that a lot |
| 16:35.06 | Shirik | no sorry not waffles yet |
| 16:35.11 | Shirik | future planned though |
| 16:35.12 | Nom- | looking at the /combatlog it doesn't seem as frequent |
| 16:35.32 | |Jelly| | Damn Shirik. |
| 16:35.40 | Nom- | 'tis happening though, and it seems to be what's killing us |
| 16:35.44 | Nom- | 6/21 22:05:29.265 Gruul the Dragonkiller hits Viorate for 9114. (crushing) |
| 16:35.56 | foxlit | 9114? McWeaksauce! |
| 16:36.20 | Nom- | heh |
| 16:36.29 | Nom- | add his normal hit at that level of grow of 6k |
| 16:36.32 | Nom- | and you've got a tank dead in 2 seconds |
| 16:36.34 | |Jelly| | Moroes hit me for more : / |
| 16:36.49 | Nom- | lol that was on plate |Jelly| |
| 16:36.50 | zenzelezz | Julianne crushing blow's me for about 2k |
| 16:36.52 | foxlit | 500k starfire crit! |
| 16:36.57 | Nom- | want to see a clothy hit? |
| 16:37.03 | Kaydeethree | meh. all of us mages have a contest during wipes to see who can get crushed for the most |
| 16:37.03 | foxlit | I can basically tank Julianne |
| 16:37.04 | |Jelly| | Yeah. |
| 16:37.09 | Kaydeethree | I hold the record at just under 30k |
| 16:37.11 | foxlit | And I'm a caster :/ |
| 16:37.25 | Nom- | Gruul the Dragonkiller hits Motian for 16391. (crushing) <-- that was on mail a few seconds after the plate hit |
| 16:38.05 | Nom- | Gruul the Dragonkiller hits Captor for 16932. <-- that's a clothy non-crit :P |
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| 16:38.59 | |Jelly| | That's more like it! |
| 16:39.06 | Nom- | Gruul the Dragonkiller hits Malaefic for 29807. (crushing) |
| 16:39.12 | Nom- | That's crushing on a clothy |
| 16:39.28 | Nom- | That's this weeks' damage record :) |
| 16:41.12 | Nom- | Our hunters should be ashamed this week |
| 16:41.17 | Nom- | Beaten by a shadow priest |
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| 16:41.58 | Nom- | Heck, our shadow priest beat everyone for damage, and was at 533dps :/ |
| 16:42.03 | foxlit | on what? |
| 16:42.40 | Nom- | Whole Gruul's encounter tonight |
| 16:42.51 | Nom- | High King/6 attempts on Gruul |
| 16:43.00 | Gnancy | hmm need more dps |
| 16:43.05 | |Jelly| | I used to beat hunters all the time as shadow : / |
| 16:44.23 | Valaron|Work | Use to? |
| 16:45.00 | Gnancy | locks need a new summon imo..... summon spriest |
| 16:45.24 | Kaydeethree | mages need a new summon... 'conjure vending machine' |
| 16:45.44 | Shirik | yes! |
| 16:45.46 | Gnancy | nah they need a water well like locks soulwell |
| 16:45.47 | Shirik | we have lightwell and soulwell |
| 16:45.49 | Shirik | now we get wellwell |
| 16:45.51 | Shirik | ! |
| 16:45.59 | Shirik | click on it to get water |
| 16:46.07 | Gnancy | and a food well too |
| 16:46.14 | Gnancy | cornucopia! |
| 16:46.29 | Kaydeethree | meh... I'm real sad that the designers won't use my request to let AcceptTrade() not require a hardware event for conjured items only |
| 16:46.58 | Kaydeethree | I miss turning on tradeDispenser, saying 'rape me!' in /ra and walking away for a few minutes as the leeches empty my bags of water |
| 16:47.05 | Shirik | they probably just don't want to bother with the implementation details |
| 16:47.06 | Industrial | that would mean free water for like 6 classes |
| 16:47.24 | Industrial | kinda unfair? |
| 16:47.27 | Gnancy | or one water with 20 charges |
| 16:47.45 | Gnancy | so make less waters per night |
| 16:48.18 | Kaydeethree | I conjure ~25-30 stacks before raid, guildies are welcome to all they can leech before first pull, then I stop conjuring |
| 16:48.38 | Industrial | im thinking pvp |
| 16:48.39 | Industrial | :P |
| 16:48.55 | foxlit | Fear the dps table of doom: http://img508.imageshack.us/img508/6365/recapss8.png |
| 16:49.01 | Industrial | compare it to the people that dont use addons, or a specific addon to automatically trade/vendor water around |
| 16:49.22 | foxlit | wellwell? |
| 16:50.18 | cog|work | ~lart the forums |
| 16:50.18 | purl | shoots the forums in the head |
| 16:50.45 | Gnancy | got a roggie and a shammy low on the list there foxlit |
| 16:50.46 | Kaydeethree | it's thursday... what the hell is wrong with the forum webserver today? |
| 16:50.57 | Gnancy | Kaydeethree: its thrusday |
| 16:50.59 | |Jelly| | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:51.01 | Gnancy | thats whats wrong |
| 16:51.17 | Kaydeethree | I'm starting to think the problem is that it's a day that ends in 'y'. |
| 16:51.38 | Gnancy | or a day that has a night following it |
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| 16:57.05 | Industrial | can anyone else not login to his wow us account? |
| 16:57.09 | Industrial | >_>] |
| 16:57.31 | Industrial | "There was an error while trying to sign you on. Please try again later." |
| 16:57.37 | Industrial | no as in, the account page. |
| 16:58.09 | Kaydeethree | forums are having the same issue. odd that the game account server's fine, though |
| 16:58.21 | Industrial | mmk |
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| 17:12.35 | Nerinia | Haha, the pumpkin bag in the armory is a browser killer with 1600 drop creatures :) |
| 17:18.59 | Kaelten | lol |
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| 17:24.13 | Mr_Rabies2 | i wish the armory was a little faster :[ |
| 17:25.05 | |Jelly| | What were the reasons (if they did) for not allowing Ignore/Friend lists to be client side? |
| 17:25.40 | Mr_Rabies2 | it's nice to be server side if you change pc's commonly |
| 17:25.57 | Mr_Rabies2 | plus, there's plenty of addons that have clientside ones |
| 17:25.59 | |Jelly| | Until "You can't ignore any more players." and you don't want to use an addon for ignore lists. |
| 17:26.03 | Zeksie | friend's list needs to have notify events when someone logs in/out.. not sure about ignore tho. that could certainly be client side |
| 17:26.08 | Zeksie | cept for name validation |
| 17:26.10 | TS|Skrom | that's an awful select group to cater to for that to be the only reason |
| 17:26.24 | Mr_Rabies2 | i wish macros were stored server side honestly |
| 17:26.44 | Mr_Rabies2 | why are you ignoring so many players, jelly? doesn't the list hold like 100? |
| 17:26.48 | |Jelly| | I'd trade macros for ignore list any day. |
| 17:26.57 | |Jelly| | not even close |
| 17:26.58 | Shirik | Zeksie: There is |
| 17:27.05 | Shirik | oh I see what you mean |
| 17:27.07 | Shirik | sorry misread >< |
| 17:27.07 | Mr_Rabies2 | i thought they upped it to 100 a while ago |
| 17:27.07 | TS|Skrom | because she's a bitch ;-) |
| 17:27.15 | TS|Skrom | Zeksie :D |
| 17:27.24 | |Jelly| | 25 |
| 17:27.27 | |Jelly| | and it's full. |
| 17:27.27 | Mr_Rabies2 | still |
| 17:27.33 | Mr_Rabies2 | why do you have >25? :O |
| 17:27.49 | Mr_Rabies2 | just wondering, not saying there's no reason to |
| 17:27.53 | Mr_Rabies2 | i think my ignore list is empty |
| 17:27.57 | |Jelly| | Because there's at the very least 25 people on my server that are fucksocks and I'd rather not ever have to listen to them ever again. : / |
| 17:28.10 | Mr_Rabies2 | i rarely see the same people often |
| 17:28.18 | Mr_Rabies2 | except guildies |
| 17:28.22 | Mr_Rabies2 | and most of them are cool |
| 17:28.29 | TS|Skrom | I tend to cull my ignore list from time to time. If I can't remember a very specific thing I ignored em for I take em off |
| 17:28.44 | |Jelly| | <3 Player Notes. |
| 17:28.46 | Mr_Rabies2 | just ignore the fucksocks :P |
| 17:28.50 | Mr_Rabies2 | er |
| 17:28.53 | Mr_Rabies2 | get an addon |
| 17:28.56 | Mr_Rabies2 | for annoying said fucksocks |
| 17:29.03 | Mr_Rabies2 | ignoring, blah |
| 17:29.06 | Mr_Rabies2 | brain isn't working today |
| 17:29.19 | TS|Skrom | brain or fingers, either one :P |
| 17:29.23 | Shirik | I know |
| 17:29.24 | |Jelly| | But I don't want my whispers to be delayed while it requests info from the addon. lol |
| 17:29.30 | Shirik | DEFAULT_CHAT_FRAME.AddMessage = function() end |
| 17:29.32 | Shirik | there you go |
| 17:29.34 | Shirik | instant ignore list |
| 17:29.50 | TS|Skrom | lol |
| 17:29.59 | TS|Skrom | will ignore lots |
| 17:30.06 | Shirik | well that's the idea |
| 17:30.09 | TS|Skrom | not just the aforementioned fucksocks |
| 17:30.11 | Shirik | to have no limit on the number of people blocked |
| 17:30.29 | Mr_Rabies2 | the solution is to up the cap to about 100 or so, imo |
| 17:30.40 | Mr_Rabies2 | i mean, they store a HELL of a lot more information on us than that |
| 17:30.40 | |Jelly| | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:30.43 | Mr_Rabies2 | chatlogs, etc |
| 17:30.51 | Mr_Rabies2 | trade logs, vendor logs |
| 17:30.53 | Mr_Rabies2 | all that |
| 17:30.55 | Shirik | fwiw |
| 17:30.56 | TS|Skrom | I think the solution is for |Jelly| to take sensitivity training |
| 17:30.58 | Shirik | logs are just streams |
| 17:31.01 | |Jelly| | The difference Shirik is I'd rather not block...everyone... |
| 17:31.06 | Shirik | |Jelly| :D |
| 17:31.20 | |Jelly| | .....that from the guy that was giving me shit the other day for *not* being an asshole... |
| 17:31.22 | Mr_Rabies2 | just streams, shirik? |
| 17:31.35 | Shirik | that's all it is, a file stream... which is much more than an ignore list functionality would need |
| 17:31.37 | TS|Skrom | XD |
| 17:31.41 | Shirik | there's no need for random access in a log |
| 17:31.44 | TS|Skrom | what can I say, I'm a paradox |
| 17:31.50 | TS|Skrom | I'm like the wind, baby |
| 17:32.01 | Mr_Rabies2 | i'm saying blizzard stores all this stuff on us on their servers |
| 17:32.04 | Mr_Rabies2 | :O |
| 17:32.07 | Shirik | an ignore list otoh would likely be handled in a database |
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| 17:32.12 | TS|Skrom | ./tinfoilhat! |
| 17:32.29 | Mr_Rabies2 | probably a couple months worth of item logs, probably a bit less for chat |
| 17:32.45 | Shirik | this is not to say that it shouldn't be difficult to implement a larger ignore list |
| 17:32.47 | Shirik | but you have to look at that side |
| 17:33.00 | Shirik | they really can't make do without logs, and a simple file stream is nothing |
| 17:33.12 | Mr_Rabies2 | if they can store all that info, i'd say a larger server side ignore list is hardly as big of an issue |
| 17:33.16 | Shirik | they can do without increasing the ignore list size... and is the extra database query really necessary? |
| 17:33.29 | Shirik | well not really an extra query but |
| 17:33.32 | Shirik | extra size |
| 17:33.43 | Mr_Rabies2 | i'm pretty sure the actual ignoring is clientside |
| 17:33.50 | Mr_Rabies2 | like, they go through, just the filter hides it |
| 17:34.11 | Mr_Rabies2 | like when i type peons4hire in chat, it goes through, but no one else sees the entire message |
| 17:34.46 | TS|Skrom | what are you doing typing peons4hire... >.> |
| 17:34.54 | Mr_Rabies2 | "dammit peons4hire spam is annoying" |
| 17:34.57 | Shirik | he needs to buy goldz |
| 17:35.11 | deltron | TS|Skrom: he has level 1 alts spamming /say near the mailbox in org |
| 17:35.13 | Mr_Rabies2 | WE NEED MORE GOLD |
| 17:35.22 | TS|Skrom | I KNEW IT |
| 17:35.34 | Mr_Rabies2 | i love the orc voice in wc3 for gold |
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| 17:35.48 | Mr_Rabies2[Peons | >_> |
| 17:35.53 | Mr_Rabies2[Peons | <_< |
| 17:36.09 | Mr_Rabies2 | damn you nick length maximum |
| 17:36.46 | TS|Skrom | heh heh heh |
| 17:37.15 | Mr_Rabies2 | while i've never bought gold, i've accepted gifts from those who have |
| 17:37.37 | Mr_Rabies2 | because honestly, who wouldn't have accepted a free epic mount in their inventory when they were Bind on Use? |
| 17:38.51 | TS|Skrom | 3 hours left and I get to go home zzZzZZzzz |
| 17:41.07 | TS|Skrom | I know we had this conversation yesterday... but 11 spirit would be how much mana/5? |
| 17:41.10 | dukeku | three hours? |
| 17:41.14 | dukeku | where the hell do you live? |
| 17:41.21 | TS|Skrom | missouri, usa |
| 17:42.31 | dukeku | man, nevermind. my internal clock is totally off today |
| 17:42.33 | dukeku | <-portland, oregon |
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| 17:50.52 | Mr_Rabies2 | mc was out at release, correct? |
| 17:51.30 | End | I believe so, yes |
| 17:52.07 | Mr_Rabies2 | yeah, i' |
| 17:52.09 | Mr_Rabies2 | eep |
| 17:52.21 | Mr_Rabies2 | yeah i'm pretty sure it was, i know when it was new Tier 2 dropped there and from ony |
| 17:52.35 | Mr_Rabies2 | i still remember watching the first ony kill video in class one day :D |
| 17:59.55 | cladhaire | MC was in release, not in beta afaik |
| 18:00.08 | Josh_Borke | /rasp |
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| 18:04.03 | Mr_Rabies2 | okay i just yawned and it sounded like a dolphin |
| 18:04.05 | Mr_Rabies2 | that was weird |
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| 18:04.52 | Thunder_Child | ~lart flipper |
| 18:04.52 | purl | slaps a compatible dib on flipper's head |
| 18:04.55 | Esamynn | ~whaleslap flipper |
| 18:04.55 | purl | ACTION beats flipper upside and over the head with a freakishly huge killer whale named Hugh |
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| 18:05.53 | cog|work | http://www.googlefight.com/index.php?lang=en_GB&word1=Dolphin&word2=Whale |
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| 18:06.25 | Esamynn | O_o |
| 18:06.28 | Josh_Borke | wow, exactly 25 million results |
| 18:06.39 | Josh_Borke | wait, i'ts up to 25,200,000 |
| 18:06.43 | Industrial | http://www.googlefight.com/index.php?lang=en_GB&word1=Ace2&word2=Cosmos |
| 18:06.46 | Industrial | ;D |
| 18:06.55 | cog|work | rofl |
| 18:06.58 | Josh_Borke | lol |
| 18:07.06 | Esamynn | haha |
| 18:07.43 | Thunder_Child | heh http://www.googlefight.com/index.php?lang=en_GB&word1=Male&word2=Female |
| 18:07.49 | Zeksie | 376,000 for X-Perl!!! (*including 375,986 job requests by X Perl devs...) |
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| 18:17.01 | lolinternet | okay what the hell |
| 18:17.13 | lolinternet | my PC switched into standby mode for no reason when i started WoW D: |
| 18:17.29 | *** join/#wowi-lounge Lunessa (n=chatzill@129.7.95.135) |
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| 18:19.42 | Mr_Rabies | http://img45.imageshack.us/img45/1912/wowscrnshot062107141034jg7.jpg lol keyring lol |
| 18:21.17 | Lunessa | "In-game bans/suspensions should carry over to the forums. Really." |
| 18:21.45 | Lunessa | That's a lot of keys/ |
| 18:22.44 | |Jelly| | Lunessa: They do |
| 18:22.45 | phyber | what's that Golden Pearl style key? |
| 18:23.08 | Lunessa | I was just quoting somoene's sig for the humor value. |
| 18:24.02 | Mr_Rabies2 | phyber, the thing to summon anzu |
| 18:24.02 | Mr_Rabies2 | in heroic sethekk |
| 18:24.13 | phyber | ahh |
| 18:25.50 | |Jelly| | Oh. Didn't see the quotes. <3 |
| 18:27.55 | |Jelly| | Cog...why do you even try anymore? lol http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=112402119&sid=1 |
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| 18:28.12 | cog|work | boredom? |
| 18:28.22 | cog|work | glee that the forums were actually responding? |
| 18:28.45 | |Jelly| | I'll give ya that. |
| 18:31.32 | Esamynn | I realised last night that I had not found the new arena rewards because the new vendor was hidden by the crowd, so I was hoping a GM would help me replace the old Shoulders I bought on Tuesday, but no such luck. Apparently, I "waited" too long. :( |
| 18:33.31 | mikma | Mr_Rabies2: what's that keyring? |
| 18:33.43 | Mr_Rabies2 | what's what keyring |
| 18:33.44 | Mr_Rabies2 | it's a keyring |
| 18:33.45 | Mr_Rabies2 | :O |
| 18:33.50 | mikma | how can it be so big? |
| 18:33.56 | Mr_Rabies2 | it's dynamic |
| 18:34.03 | Mr_Rabies2 | every 4 you get adds another row |
| 18:34.13 | mikma | ooh. didn't knwo |
| 18:34.19 | mikma | i thought that 4x4 is biggest there is |
| 18:34.23 | Esamynn | max size = 32 |
| 18:34.35 | Esamynn | which is the limitation built into the UI code for bags ;) |
| 18:34.51 | Mr_Rabies2 | i want a bigger enchanting bag |
| 18:34.52 | Mr_Rabies2 | :[ |
| 18:35.05 | Esamynn | how many slots is yours? |
| 18:35.26 | Mr_Rabies2 | 20 |
| 18:35.30 | Mr_Rabies2 | the 28 slot one costs like |
| 18:35.34 | Mr_Rabies2 | probably 800g or so |
| 18:35.42 | Esamynn | so get a 24 slot one |
| 18:35.57 | Mr_Rabies2 | no one knows how to make em |
| 18:35.58 | Mr_Rabies2 | :[ |
| 18:36.11 | Esamynn | but I'm probably not on your server |
| 18:36.25 | Mr_Rabies2 | drops in dire maul, iirc? |
| 18:36.27 | Thunder_Child | lolz, a snipit from westfall (cross faction) 11:35:28 [Y] <Xaruman>: [Orcish] NO a n a l |
| 18:36.27 | Thunder_Child | 11:35:28 [Y] <Xaruman>: [Orcish] NO a n a l |
| 18:36.27 | Thunder_Child | 11:35:29 [Y] <Xaruman>: [Orcish] NO a n a l |
| 18:36.42 | clad|away | heh |
| 18:36.42 | Esamynn | Mr_Rabies2: yes, west side |
| 18:36.51 | Esamynn | one of the ghost bosses |
| 18:36.52 | foxlit | Could someone whine about incorrect SendAddonMessage() error messages on US forums? |
| 18:37.07 | Esamynn | incorrect? |
| 18:37.20 | Mr_Rabies2 | and the reagents are a pain to get in bc |
| 18:37.21 | Mr_Rabies2 | :[ |
| 18:37.39 | Mr_Rabies2 | they need to introduce a 24 slotter trainable one into bc |
| 18:37.47 | Esamynn | I made mine pre-BC |
| 18:38.10 | Mr_Rabies2 | right now anything more than 20 is rare and expensive |
| 18:38.14 | clad|away | foxlit: perhaps if you gave us something to post.. considering you're not telling us whats wrong. |
| 18:38.17 | Mr_Rabies2 | unlike the other equipment bags :[ |
| 18:38.35 | foxlit | ./run SendAddonMessage(); |
| 18:38.42 | clad|away | and what does it say? |
| 18:38.43 | Mr_Rabies2 | well, i guess herbalism has it worse |
| 18:38.45 | foxlit | Sec |
| 18:38.48 | clad|away | i.e. write a post |
| 18:38.50 | clad|away | and we'll post it on your behalf |
| 18:38.58 | foxlit | I disconnected myself while testing if it disconnects |
| 18:39.00 | clad|away | its your problem, but i'm more than happy to serve as conduit |
| 18:39.11 | Mr_Rabies2 | since 24 is as big as you can go and it requires cenarion circle rep |
| 18:40.37 | Mr_Rabies2 | http://www.wowhead.com/?item=29540#00z |
| 18:40.41 | Mr_Rabies2 | 28 slots and easy as hell to make :[ |
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| 18:46.06 | clad|away | Shirik: ping |
| 18:46.21 | Shirik | only semi-here, what's up |
| 18:47.17 | clad|away | emailing errors |
| 18:47.49 | clad|away | and WHY did you use .\somefile.h |
| 18:47.51 | clad|away | in your include? |
| 18:47.51 | clad|away | O.o |
| 18:51.07 | zenzelezz | wow, Al'ar looks funky :-o |
| 18:51.18 | deltron | a'lar is cool |
| 18:51.31 | deltron | that trash isn't so bad |
| 18:54.33 | zenzelezz | I was surprised how few people died on the huge bird packs |
| 18:54.38 | zenzelezz | they looked pretty mean |
| 18:55.08 | foxlit | SendAddonMessage produces a wrong error message when called incorrectly. |
| 18:55.08 | foxlit | Current error message is: Usage: SendAddonMessage("message" [,"type"] [,"target"]); |
| 18:55.08 | foxlit | But the function syntax is actually: |
| 18:55.08 | foxlit | SendAddonMessage("type", "message", "target", [, "playerName"]); |
| 18:55.47 | Mr_Rabies2 | OW |
| 18:55.56 | Mr_Rabies2 | just elbowed the hell out of my desk |
| 18:56.00 | Mr_Rabies2 | funny bone :[ |
| 18:56.03 | zenzelezz | that'll teach it |
| 18:56.17 | deltron | zenzelezz: my coworker said they nerfed the hell out of the trash |
| 18:56.32 | zenzelezz | I wouldn't know, it's my first time there |
| 18:56.44 | deltron | yeah my first time was last night |
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| 19:02.40 | Valaron|Work | Congratulations. |
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| 19:04.32 | Esamynn | <PROTECTED> |
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| 19:08.21 | Zeksie | noo |
| 19:10.35 | foxlit | Really? |
| 19:10.39 | foxlit | ./run SendAddonMessage(); |
| 19:10.40 | foxlit | ? |
| 19:10.49 | Esamynn | yes, really |
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| 19:15.23 | TS|Skrom | Valaron|Work ever heard the joke about the guy who was hot air ballooning? |
| 19:15.39 | TS|Skrom | He got so high up that he went above some low clouds and got turned around a bit. Lost his bearings. |
| 19:15.57 | foxlit | Esamynn: Hah, you're right :) |
| 19:16.03 | TS|Skrom | He descended and landed in a field where he saw a man standing and asked the man where he was. |
| 19:16.12 | TS|Skrom | The man replied "You are in a balloon of course" |
| 19:16.26 | TS|Skrom | Immediately the balloonist asked the man, "you are a lawyer aren't you" |
| 19:16.39 | TS|Skrom | "Why yes" the other man replied, "How'd you know"? |
| 19:17.07 | TS|Skrom | To which the balloonist replied, "Your answer, though technically currect, was also completely useless" |
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| 19:17.33 | TS|Skrom | I posit: Valaron|Work is a lawyer - http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=112501822&sid=1 |
| 19:17.51 | Esamynn | oh wait, that was it, wasn't it? :P |
| 19:18.28 | TS|Skrom | yeah well... shut up |
| 19:18.39 | TS|Skrom | It's been awhile since I told that joke and I forgot some stuff |
| 19:18.42 | Lunessa | Valaron's answer was also the coolest. |
| 19:18.48 | |Jelly| | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:18.49 | |Jelly| | Internet: Not connected |
| 19:18.51 | |Jelly| | ...and yet you're still talking... |
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| 19:25.17 | Lunessa | http://img338.imageshack.us/img338/513/wowscrnshot062007233830yj0.jpg : 8/10 for symmetry, but -8 for inconvenient button placements. |
| 19:25.52 | deltron | also |
| 19:25.57 | deltron | way too much empty space |
| 19:26.02 | |Jelly| | Symmetry? eh |
| 19:28.04 | Valaron|Work | Sorry.. went to get lunch. |
| 19:28.40 | Valaron|Work | BLT |
| 19:29.48 | dukeku | bacon, lettuce, tempura |
| 19:33.49 | Valaron|Work | I hate it when people ask a question condescendingly. "Well what is Titan?" |
| 19:40.51 | Adys | is SET Basemip "0" new in 2.1.2? |
| 19:41.24 | Adys | in config.wtf that is |
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| 19:49.45 | |FF|Im2good4u | i wonder how blizz did the new tradeskill item links since my addon didnt seem to break on it \o/ |
| 19:50.48 | Lunessa | Seriously, why do I even bother reading my realm forum. |
| 19:51.25 | Valaron|Work | I stopped reading Proudmoore's a long time ago. |
| 19:52.33 | kaiden | i stopped reading proudmoores when they allowed us to move to Khaz Modan |
| 19:52.34 | kaiden | :P |
| 19:52.35 | Lunessa | I play on an RP server - I'm an old rp-gamer-geek. We have a cluster of "hard core raid folks" who seem like rabid dogs to me. |
| 19:52.43 | kaiden | kinda wish i had stayed on proudmoore though |
| 19:53.03 | Lunessa | And they love to lash out at anyone who doesn't like them. Sad - even sadder that I occasionally still take the bait. |
| 19:53.37 | Mr_Rabies2 | If there's any other druids around, help me out :x http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=112402398&postId=1123822086&sid=1#0 |
| 19:54.59 | Thunder_Child | my dru is 18 so i cant you out there |
| 19:55.19 | Thunder_Child | since i dont get it |
| 19:55.56 | Thunder_Child | help you* |
| 19:58.25 | foxlit | Mr_Rabies2: I'm still under the opinion that this is not a bug. |
| 19:58.48 | Mr_Rabies2 | why? :o |
| 19:59.02 | Mr_Rabies2 | they fixed the herb thing because no one else could do it in their flying mounts |
| 19:59.15 | foxlit | Because you can't throw a boot if you're a bird |
| 19:59.15 | wereHamster | can someone please send me Repair.exe for the enGB version? |
| 19:59.39 | Mr_Rabies2 | it's the only flying mount only bomb that's not usable in flight form |
| 20:00.01 | foxlit | It's not a bomb, is it? |
| 20:00.01 | Shirik | clad|away: ? |
| 20:00.04 | Shirik | somefile.h? |
| 20:00.10 | Shirik | are you serious? |
| 20:00.10 | Shirik | where? |
| 20:00.12 | clad|away | no |
| 20:00.14 | clad|away | not somefile |
| 20:00.14 | Mr_Rabies2 | it is more or less, foxlit |
| 20:00.16 | clad|away | i didn't remember the name |
| 20:00.20 | clad|away | but you reference a .h file |
| 20:00.21 | Shirik | stdafx? |
| 20:00.21 | foxlit | More less than more. |
| 20:00.21 | Mr_Rabies2 | maybe not graphically |
| 20:00.26 | clad|away | with .\filename.hj |
| 20:00.28 | clad|away | which is windows only |
| 20:00.32 | clad|away | and unnecessary |
| 20:00.32 | Mr_Rabies2 | but it's flying mount usable |
| 20:00.35 | Mr_Rabies2 | meaning we should use it :O |
| 20:00.40 | Shirik | two things it might be |
| 20:00.48 | Shirik | crtdbg.h which is inside a #ifdef _MSC_VER block |
| 20:00.54 | Shirik | which is so I can track memory leaks |
| 20:01.08 | Shirik | and stdafx.h which is just one of my files, precomiled header |
| 20:01.20 | Shirik | oh crap, assert.h |
| 20:01.30 | foxlit | Mr_Rabies2: No. It's a boot. You hold it in your hand and throw it at the peon. You can't physically do this action when you're a bird. |
| 20:01.33 | Adys | Okay i'd like some help if someone knows console variables well |
| 20:01.38 | Mr_Rabies2 | foxlit, that shouldn't matter |
| 20:01.42 | foxlit | Tossing the boot at the peon is ineffective, it's clearly a design choice :) |
| 20:01.50 | Mr_Rabies2 | how do i hold 3 armor sets made of leather or plate in a backpack? |
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| 20:02.00 | foxlit | As the quest puts it, "it's all in the wrist" You have no wrist. |
| 20:02.14 | Adys | http://www.wowwiki.com/Console_variables I just need a capitalization check on most of those, ie BlockTrade etc. If anyone has a list or a way to check how its exactly capitalized |
| 20:02.21 | Mr_Rabies2 | that's a stupid reason to have anything, foxlit |
| 20:02.37 | Mr_Rabies2 | similarly warriors should drown when they swim in water |
| 20:02.47 | foxlit | It's fine. |
| 20:02.55 | clad|away | lol LolVar.cpp |
| 20:02.57 | clad|away | lolvar.h there |
| 20:02.58 | clad|away | i think |
| 20:03.00 | foxlit | And I don't really see the need for fixing it :) |
| 20:03.14 | Mr_Rabies2 | i do |
| 20:03.27 | Mr_Rabies2 | i don't believe it's intended behavior |
| 20:03.38 | Mr_Rabies2 | it's the only flying mount only item that flight form druids can't use |
| 20:03.49 | foxlit | And? :) |
| 20:04.00 | Mr_Rabies2 | it makes the quest not enjoyable |
| 20:04.09 | Mr_Rabies2 | having to walk on the ground makes it incredibly lame |
| 20:04.23 | foxlit | Mount up? |
| 20:04.33 | Mr_Rabies2 | i don't have one |
| 20:04.36 | Mr_Rabies2 | because i shouldn't need one |
| 20:04.40 | Mr_Rabies2 | my form replaces mine |
| 20:05.46 | foxlit | Anyhow, it's clearly a design issue. Post in suggestions or something. |
| 20:05.53 | Mr_Rabies2 | i'm sure it's a bug |
| 20:06.04 | Mr_Rabies2 | i posted it in bug reports |
| 20:06.13 | Mr_Rabies2 | because i'm pretty much sure it's not intended |
| 20:06.33 | Shirik | clad|away: Sorry, that was done by my IDE >< |
| 20:06.33 | Mr_Rabies2 | when blizzard tells me otherwise, i'll post it in suggestions |
| 20:06.34 | Shirik | I'll fix that |
| 20:06.40 | clad|away | bastards |
| 20:06.43 | foxlit | Have fun :) |
| 20:06.45 | clad|away | and then all the errors i get |
| 20:06.45 | clad|away | heh |
| 20:07.08 | Shirik | just change it to #include "LolVar.h" |
| 20:07.10 | Mr_Rabies2 | it's just dumb, foxlit, it makes the quest entirely annoying when you have to jump on the ground to do it |
| 20:07.19 | Shirik | also I changed stdafx.h in case you don't have <assert.h> |
| 20:07.37 | foxlit | I do not share your opinion. |
| 20:08.13 | Mr_Rabies2 | why? i don't understand why you think we should suffer when no other class can |
| 20:08.21 | Mr_Rabies2 | it turns the quest from enjoyable to tedious |
| 20:08.48 | |FF|Im2good4u | oke i just found out those new "yellow" ways of linking items is duno by typing thme in as inchating links |
| 20:08.54 | foxlit | And you could solve it by buying a mount |
| 20:09.02 | Mr_Rabies2 | i'd rather not working around their bug |
| 20:09.13 | foxlit | Once again, I do not believe it's a bug. |
| 20:09.16 | Mr_Rabies2 | i do |
| 20:09.24 | Mr_Rabies2 | why would it be intended? |
| 20:09.41 | Mr_Rabies2 | you haven't told me why other than some stupid throwaway "can't do it in reality" excuse |
| 20:10.02 | Shirik | clad|away: _scprintf() was what I was worried about |
| 20:10.08 | Shirik | I'll just write that myself I guess, shouldn't be hard |
| 20:10.27 | foxlit | Because unlike the other bombing quest flavour text, this one explicitly indicates humanoid form. |
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| 20:10.56 | foxlit | (or, rather, does not explicitly indicate flight form) |
| 20:11.04 | Mr_Rabies2 | i'm just going to ignore you and save myself the trouble |
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| 20:11.24 | foxlit | Np, wake me up when you get a response :) |
| 20:11.31 | Mr_Rabies2 | oh, and the skyguard blasting charges don't mention flight form at all |
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| 20:12.58 | Mr_Rabies2 | you're just being a jerk about it for no reason |
| 20:13.25 | Industrial | yeah, jerk. (??) |
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| 20:16.16 | |FF|Im2good4u | guys can items have 4 sockets ? |
| 20:16.27 | Mr_Rabies2 | i think 3's as big as i've seen |
| 20:16.33 | |FF|Im2good4u | since http://www.wowwiki.com/ItemString says there is a 3rd jewel nuber |
| 20:16.44 | |FF|Im2good4u | i mean it says there is a 4rth |
| 20:17.29 | wereHamster | heh.. 'The Internet' is controlled by MS Windows machines: windows has a function InternetSetOption() |
| 20:17.38 | Mr_Rabies2 | http://www.wowhead.com/?items&filter=cr=100;crs=2;crv=4 |
| 20:17.44 | Mr_Rabies2 | looks like there aren't any at the moment |
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| 20:18.16 | Mr_Rabies2 | so there's space for one, but no items use it yet |
| 20:18.53 | |FF|Im2good4u | that wierd since a while ago i knew every slot in the 8 number code and there where only 3 slots |
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| 20:20.57 | TS|Skrom | Okay I understand that getting herbalist gloves and an herbalism enchant will get you 400 herbalism as a taurun.. I get that... but what I don't understand is... WHY |
| 20:21.04 | TS|Skrom | WHY would you need that |
| 20:21.08 | Mr_Rabies2 | my helm says 28182:0:3087:2969:0:0:0:2090230080 |
| 20:21.26 | Mr_Rabies2 | i have gloves with the enchant on them |
| 20:21.31 | Mr_Rabies2 | just because |
| 20:21.53 | TS|Skrom | You can't herb anything others can't get... |
| 20:22.00 | TS|Skrom | just for the decreased "failures"? |
| 20:22.04 | Mr_Rabies2 | orange are less likely to fail |
| 20:22.13 | Mr_Rabies2 | i had mana thistle fail like 8 times in a row once |
| 20:22.15 | Mr_Rabies2 | at 375 |
| 20:22.18 | Mr_Rabies2 | back when it was higher |
| 20:22.29 | TS|Skrom | heh. but there's still nothing lost if you fail |
| 20:22.37 | Mr_Rabies2 | time :[ |
| 20:22.47 | Mr_Rabies2 | time is money |
| 20:22.54 | TS|Skrom | touche` mr. herbalist |
| 20:23.04 | End | time is money friend! |
| 20:23.08 | Mr_Rabies2 | especially when you get zerged by a nearby wandering elite |
| 20:23.23 | |FF|Im2good4u | i hm tobad i didnt document it anywhere lol |
| 20:25.12 | foxlit | Mr_Rabies2: tbh, don't know why I care. It's not a problem for me; and I don't really believe druids to be that disenfranchised by flight form (if anything, it makes more things way easier than it should). Either way, good luck on getting a response. |
| 20:25.52 | Mr_Rabies2 | I mean |
| 20:25.56 | Mr_Rabies2 | i paid 5000g for the training |
| 20:26.01 | Mr_Rabies2 | i should at least get use from it |
| 20:26.15 | foxlit | And you probably got 200g from the quest line, whereas everyone else had to pay that too |
| 20:26.17 | foxlit | And you do |
| 20:26.29 | foxlit | Flightform + top gun quests == win |
| 20:26.32 | |FF|Im2good4u | hmm will it be posable to link invalid item links to myzelf ? of do i get DC then also ? |
| 20:26.49 | Mr_Rabies2 | i dunno how, unless you get dismounted |
| 20:26.56 | Mr_Rabies2 | in which case you have like a half a second to respond |
| 20:27.06 | Mr_Rabies2 | i didn't, so it wasn't an issue to me |
| 20:27.45 | Mr_Rabies2 | well, not any times in which i didn't fail like instantly after because of the small window to remount |
| 20:28.16 | foxlit | It's not even the failure. |
| 20:28.21 | foxlit | It's that the fall is often fatal. |
| 20:29.18 | cog|work | Why did this even make it to court? http://www.reuters.com/article/oddlyEnoughNews/idUSL2153017720070621?feedType=RSS |
| 20:29.20 | foxlit | Plus you can make an easy stance macro you can spam :) |
| 20:29.29 | Mr_Rabies2 | i think that's an offbalance for us not being able to use riding crops and the pally auras to help |
| 20:29.34 | Mr_Rabies2 | it being instant |
| 20:30.00 | Josh_Borke | can't you get a trinket to increase flight speed? |
| 20:30.05 | End | you..do get a riding crop of your own.... |
| 20:30.08 | End | yeah |
| 20:30.15 | End | "Charm of the Swift Flight" |
| 20:30.17 | Josh_Borke | it's a neckpiece i believe |
| 20:30.17 | foxlit | Mr_Rabies2: Um. You get a FREE riding crop during the quest line. |
| 20:30.21 | Shirik | clad|away: Sent more C99-compliant version |
| 20:30.22 | foxlit | It's a trinket. |
| 20:30.22 | ckknight | is there any way to get the zone of a party member? |
| 20:30.24 | Mr_Rabies2 | nah it's a trinket |
| 20:30.25 | Josh_Borke | yes |
| 20:30.33 | Mr_Rabies2 | but yeah, you have to fork over 5000g to do the quest |
| 20:30.42 | foxlit | And? |
| 20:30.44 | Mr_Rabies2 | plus they only go for like 100g |
| 20:30.57 | Mr_Rabies2 | i'd rather spend 100g and get benefit of that and the pally aura |
| 20:30.59 | foxlit | Not like everyone has doesn't have to fork out 5000g to get the training |
| 20:31.07 | End | you could say I forked over 5000g and did a silly race quest for my riding crop :P |
| 20:31.21 | Mr_Rabies2 | yeah, i got the whip |
| 20:31.26 | Mr_Rabies2 | for my ground mount |
| 20:31.41 | Mr_Rabies2 | but i have to carry two trinkets for that and the pally aura doesn't effect me |
| 20:32.09 | foxlit | Perhaps whine about making pally aura affect flightform druids |
| 20:32.20 | Mr_Rabies2 | nah, i don't see a reason for it to |
| 20:32.34 | Mr_Rabies2 | but i do see a reason for us to be able to booterang |
| 20:32.40 | foxlit | Why not? |
| 20:32.48 | Mr_Rabies2 | it changes from a fun quest to a quest i have no desire to do |
| 20:32.53 | foxlit | It's the only aura that affects all classes but druids in flight form! |
| 20:33.14 | End | nonsense, it affects any completely unmounted class ;p |
| 20:33.17 | Mr_Rabies2 | because it's not as common as the booterang quest, it's just a little gimmicky aura |
| 20:33.42 | Mr_Rabies2 | on the other hand every day i do the booterang quest i consider not doing it again because it's annoying |
| 20:33.54 | Mr_Rabies2 | whereas everyone else is like "man, the booterang quest is the greatest thing ever" |
| 20:34.10 | Mr_Rabies2 | and it would be, if i could do it from the air |
| 20:34.16 | |FF|Im2good4u | hmm bliz code itzelf says MAX_NUM_SOCKETS = 3; |
| 20:34.27 | End | if you got your rep all the way up, would you even use your netherwing mount? |
| 20:34.45 | Mr_Rabies2 | probably not |
| 20:34.49 | Mr_Rabies2 | i like flight form's look |
| 20:36.01 | Mr_Rabies2 | i may use it on the ledge for booteranging |
| 20:36.03 | Mr_Rabies2 | but that's about it |
| 20:36.13 | Shirik | "The U.S. Patent and Trademark Office begins an unprecedented experiment this week that will allow you (yes, you!) to review software patent applications. The USPTO is hoping the wider community of programmers and engineers will do a better job of spotting bad claims and thereby prevent innovation-killing legal tussles. " |
| 20:36.14 | Shirik | that's interesting |
| 20:36.15 | Mr_Rabies2 | i doubt i'll get exalted though |
| 20:36.17 | Mr_Rabies2 | i've got no reason to |
| 20:36.19 | Shirik | got that from IEEE newsletter |
| 20:36.35 | Valaron|Work | Bah.. hate hate hate setting up Active Directory. |
| 20:36.42 | Mr_Rabies2 | oh god |
| 20:36.48 | Mr_Rabies2 | AD is a dirty whore |
| 20:36.54 | Shirik | rofl active directory |
| 20:37.00 | Mr_Rabies2 | man |
| 20:37.16 | Mr_Rabies2 | we had to reformat that damn server so many times in networking to get active directory to behave :[ |
| 20:37.46 | Mr_Rabies2 | networking class* |
| 20:38.44 | Valaron|Work | Yeah.. unfortunately, mine's in production. Can't turn off whenever I want. Got to give advance notice. |
| 20:39.11 | Mr_Rabies2 | well, that and giving a bunch of high school kids complete control over a beast of a server for the network we ran wasn't a great idea |
| 20:39.19 | Mr_Rabies2 | couple of them almost got arrested :P |
| 20:39.32 | Mr_Rabies2 | the network was supposed to be seperate from the network |
| 20:39.36 | Valaron|Work | lolporn |
| 20:39.44 | Mr_Rabies2 | er |
| 20:39.56 | Valaron|Work | What did you just say? |
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| 20:40.05 | Mr_Rabies2 | the network for the networking, A+, and 3d animation classes was supposed to be seperate from the network for the rest of the school |
| 20:40.09 | Mr_Rabies2 | which was tied to the internet |
| 20:40.59 | Mr_Rabies2 | they installed a second NIC on the teacher's computer, which wasn't supposed to be connected to the class network and connected it to the school network, giving them unfiltered internet |
| 20:41.42 | Mr_Rabies2 | porn, mp3's, movies, games, you name it, they downloaded it on the school's huge pipe they used like 5% of |
| 20:42.18 | Mr_Rabies2 | they found out one monday when they uploaded like a terabyte or so over the weekend |
| 20:42.29 | Valaron|Work | Wow |
| 20:42.35 | Mr_Rabies2 | oh, and they had a packet sniffer running too |
| 20:42.40 | Mr_Rabies2 | the students |
| 20:42.55 | Mr_Rabies2 | well, installed |
| 20:42.57 | Mr_Rabies2 | i don't think they ran it |
| 20:43.13 | Mr_Rabies2 | and the school was more scared of the packet sniffer than the massive amounts of piracy |
| 20:43.53 | Mr_Rabies2 | teacher got fired, one student got suspended for a year, another got suspended for a month |
| 20:44.25 | Valaron|Work | Getting ahold of student information is worst than downloading Ciara albums. |
| 20:44.48 | Mr_Rabies2 | well, there was a switch on the network anyway, so the sniffer didn't get anything, even if they did run it |
| 20:45.46 | Mr_Rabies2 | i think they were actually trying to use it to diagnose problems on the internal network before they got the bright idea to pirate a bunch of stuff :p |
| 20:45.58 | Mr_Rabies2 | because this was the most duct taped network i've ever seen |
| 20:46.09 | Mr_Rabies2 | 10 Mbit, 90% packet loss |
| 20:46.18 | Mr_Rabies2 | 20 or so computers |
| 20:46.43 | Valaron|Work | Yikes. |
| 20:47.05 | Lunessa | Heh... I have to live with AD daily. |
| 20:47.10 | Mr_Rabies2 | that apparently started downgrading themselves when the new teacher arrived that had no apparent experience with computers |
| 20:47.48 | Mr_Rabies2 | (the student that got suspended for a month was upgrading his home computer at the same time) |
| 20:47.56 | Mr_Rabies2 | he was trading parts around :P |
| 20:48.43 | Mr_Rabies2 | he probably wound up with about 2k worth of parts |
| 20:49.00 | Mr_Rabies2 | built a whole seperate computer from scratch, minus case and video card |
| 20:49.07 | Valaron|Work | I'd much rather work on my *nix boxes right now than fux around with AD. |
| 20:49.16 | foxlit | cpu? |
| 20:49.27 | Mr_Rabies2 | yeah he ganked a cpu |
| 20:49.35 | Mr_Rabies2 | got her to order some new ones for the 3d animator |
| 20:49.40 | Mr_Rabies2 | animators |
| 20:49.48 | Mr_Rabies2 | and traded one of the two out with his |
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| 20:50.47 | Lunessa | LOL. Clever little shite. |
| 20:51.04 | Mr_Rabies2 | "this ram is broken, i guess we need to get a replacement" |
| 20:51.10 | Mr_Rabies2 | teacher was so incompetant |
| 20:51.17 | Mr_Rabies2 | she didn't have anything for us to do in networking |
| 20:51.23 | Mr_Rabies2 | so she just let us do whatever |
| 20:51.38 | Mr_Rabies2 | one time we took apart a PSU and started sparking pieces of its case together |
| 20:52.09 | Valaron|Work | High school? |
| 20:52.12 | Mr_Rabies2 | yeah |
| 20:52.17 | Mr_Rabies2 | on a tile floor |
| 20:52.28 | Valaron|Work | Kids these days. |
| 20:52.47 | Mr_Rabies2 | this was about....2 and a half years ago |
| 20:52.50 | Mr_Rabies2 | my senior year |
| 20:52.56 | Josh_Borke | kids these days |
| 20:53.01 | Valaron|Work | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:53.10 | Mr_Rabies2 | one of the guys had the bright idea |
| 20:53.25 | Mr_Rabies2 | of moving both pieces of the power supply case out of his way |
| 20:53.28 | Mr_Rabies2 | together |
| 20:53.31 | Arrowmaster | we played cs1.5 during class back when i was in highschool |
| 20:53.49 | Mr_Rabies2 | he picked up the 120V line and the ground |
| 20:53.52 | Mr_Rabies2 | one in each hand |
| 20:54.04 | Mr_Rabies2 | this... was not smart |
| 20:54.21 | Arrowmaster | voltage doesnt really matter |
| 20:54.27 | Mr_Rabies2 | "turn it offffffffffffffff" |
| 20:54.36 | Mr_Rabies2 | it was a straight feed from a wall outlet |
| 20:54.52 | Mr_Rabies2 | an old AT power supply |
| 20:55.16 | Mr_Rabies2 | he got pretty well lit up |
| 20:55.37 | |Jelly| | [15:54]<Arrowmaster>voltage doesnt really matter |
| 20:55.43 | Mr_Rabies2 | had a current going through him for about 5 seconds |
| 20:55.50 | |Jelly| | [15:54]<Arrowmaster>voltage doesnt really matter |
| 20:55.56 | zenzelezz | woot, Void Reaver down \o/ He enraged the last few seconds, but still fun for a first |
| 20:56.04 | |Jelly| | Sorry. I'm being a prick. |
| 20:56.09 | Arrowmaster | its true, volts wont kill you, its the amps that will |
| 20:56.09 | |Jelly| | A wall outlet wont kill you though. |
| 20:56.11 | Mr_Rabies2 | cut his hands up really bad from the muscle spasms on the metal |
| 20:56.17 | Mr_Rabies2 | it can |
| 20:56.22 | Mr_Rabies2 | but not for 5 seconds |
| 20:56.43 | Mr_Rabies2 | if it's over your heart for more than 30 sec or so you're in pretty high risk |
| 20:56.54 | Arrowmaster | it only takes a little less than 1 amp to kill |
| 20:57.02 | Mr_Rabies2 | and it went straight through it |
| 20:57.44 | Mr_Rabies2 | had to call in the paramedics |
| 20:58.08 | Codayus | You can die from a lot less than an amp. |
| 20:58.11 | Codayus | Actually. |
| 20:58.13 | Mr_Rabies2 | he was back in school later that day, but he was hurtin bad for a few weeks |
| 20:58.38 | foxlit | Assume you dissipate the entire power? |
| 20:58.38 | Esamynn | low current at some voltages can really play havoc with your heart's rhythm |
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| 20:59.42 | Codayus | About 100mA to the wrong place with stop your heart. :-) |
| 20:59.54 | Mr_Rabies2 | he wasnt very happy for a while |
| 20:59.55 | subbot | I just installed new firmware on my router, and the default password doesn't work. grrrr |
| 21:00.09 | Esamynn | a voltage that is low enough to only somewhat interfere with the heart's rhythm is FAR worse that one high enough to lock up the heart |
| 21:00.24 | zenzelezz | lol, warlock almost forgot to loot the T5 shoulders |
| 21:00.26 | Esamynn | assuming the current isn't going to kill you |
| 21:00.32 | zenzelezz | "NO; DON'T PORTAL" |
| 21:00.36 | Esamynn | LOL |
| 21:00.41 | Esamynn | that would have been bad |
| 21:01.11 | Codayus | I believe there's a documented ase of someone who killed themself with a 9V battery... |
| 21:01.26 | Esamynn | O_o |
| 21:01.37 | Mr_Rabies2 | i put one on my tongue once |
| 21:01.38 | Valaron|Work | Probably choked on it. |
| 21:01.43 | Mr_Rabies2 | didn't do much but taste like iron |
| 21:01.46 | deltron | stuck it to his braces |
| 21:01.51 | Valaron|Work | ha |
| 21:01.58 | Codayus | Nope, stabbed himself in both thumbs with a multimeter. Blood is an excellent conductor. |
| 21:02.07 | deltron | lol |
| 21:02.13 | Mr_Rabies2 | rofl |
| 21:02.20 | Esamynn | oh god, yes, I can see that |
| 21:02.27 | wereHamster | by accident? |
| 21:02.27 | Mr_Rabies2 | stabbed a multimeter in his BRAIN |
| 21:02.32 | Esamynn | re: what I said about low voltages |
| 21:02.35 | Mr_Rabies2 | well |
| 21:02.36 | Mr_Rabies2 | like i said |
| 21:02.40 | Mr_Rabies2 | this guy cut his hands |
| 21:02.41 | Mr_Rabies2 | on the metal |
| 21:02.45 | Codayus | Resistance of blood is ~100 ohms, E=IR, 9V gives 90mA of current. Just enough to disrupt your heart. And no, it was on purpose. |
| 21:02.51 | Codayus | He wanted to measure his internal resistance. |
| 21:02.59 | Esamynn | oh dear |
| 21:03.05 | Mr_Rabies2 | because the current made him grip it enough to cut his hands on the power supply pieces |
| 21:03.16 | Esamynn | aye |
| 21:03.16 | Mr_Rabies2 | i love that little feeling you get right before you get lit up though |
| 21:03.26 | Mr_Rabies2 | "oh geez, i just made a circuit. that was dumbAHHHHH" |
| 21:03.56 | Esamynn | .............. |
| 21:05.50 | Mr_Rabies2 | you don't get that? |
| 21:05.59 | Mr_Rabies2 | i have every time i've stupidly shocked myself |
| 21:06.32 | Lunessa | I try to avoid electrocuting myself. |
| 21:06.43 | Mr_Rabies2 | well, electrocution implies death :P |
| 21:06.56 | Mr_Rabies2 | normally i don't do something stupid enough to kill myself |
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| 21:07.23 | Lunessa | Once, I was helping to renovate an old medical building. We were ripping out a "freezer room" - a room-sided walk-in freezer |
| 21:07.29 | Mr_Rabies2 | generally the current hits me for long enough to feel a bit toasty and i get enough control to break it, because i didn't GRIP IT |
| 21:07.38 | Mr_Rabies2 | but gripping something with a current going through it is a good way to die |
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| 21:08.09 | Mr_Rabies2 | not a fun way, either, i'd imagine |
| 21:08.17 | Lunessa | A hammer I was using to tear out wall planks got ripped out of my hand and shot across the room when I nicked a high-voltage power cable buried behind it. |
| 21:08.37 | deltron | ! |
| 21:08.47 | foxlit | <Codayus> E=IR |
| 21:08.55 | foxlit | Is this some alternate designation of I and R? |
| 21:09.02 | deltron | i and r |
| 21:09.09 | Shirik|AFK | wow |
| 21:09.11 | foxlit | I is current? |
| 21:09.12 | Lunessa | We closed up for the day and let electricians come in and make sure everything was REALLY shut off. :D |
| 21:09.14 | Shirik|AFK | ping google for 1200ms ftl |
| 21:09.15 | deltron | heh i dunno |
| 21:09.36 | zenzelezz | do not ping the Google, for it is subtle and quick to anger |
| 21:09.36 | foxlit | E=UI |
| 21:09.53 | foxlit | (U=RI, E=RI^2) |
| 21:10.27 | Mr_Rabies2 | rofl |
| 21:10.34 | Mr_Rabies2 | afking in netherwing ledge |
| 21:10.52 | Mr_Rabies2 | and mulvrick just shows up and spams the hell out of me with lightning |
| 21:11.01 | Mr_Rabies2 | he hit me INSIDE THE MINE once |
| 21:11.17 | Shirik|AFK | Foxbot: i has always been current |
| 21:11.18 | cog|work | Why do I get a kick out of the name, Effingham County? |
| 21:11.26 | Shirik | v = ir |
| 21:11.37 | foxlit | But then |
| 21:11.40 | foxlit | <Codayus> E=IR |
| 21:11.42 | foxlit | is wrong |
| 21:11.55 | Mr_Rabies2 | F-ING HAM! |
| 21:12.03 | Mr_Rabies2 | that's why |
| 21:12.05 | zenzelezz | pi+e=fud |
| 21:12.10 | Shirik | ZOMG BOLD + CAPS = MEGA-COOL |
| 21:12.12 | Mr_Rabies2 | i hate that ham, effing ham |
| 21:12.19 | Mr_Rabies2 | indeed |
| 21:12.20 | foxlit | Need a i eat pi joke |
| 21:12.21 | foxlit | Make it happen |
| 21:12.23 | Mr_Rabies2 | and even better |
| 21:12.27 | foxlit | Have i, e, pi to work with |
| 21:12.30 | Shirik | e^pi = 1-0 |
| 21:12.33 | Mr_Rabies2 | CAPSBOLDREVERSEUNDERLINELOL |
| 21:12.33 | Shirik | er |
| 21:12.34 | Shirik | 0-1 |
| 21:12.37 | Shirik | no that's not right hm |
| 21:12.39 | Shirik | oh right |
| 21:12.41 | |Jelly| | Wow Shirik. Two forms of cruise controlled cool? I don't think this channel can handle it. |
| 21:12.45 | Shirik | e^(pi*i) = 0 - 1 |
| 21:13.00 | foxlit | e^(ipi) + |
| 21:13.06 | Shirik | >>> math.ln(1)^(math.pi * math.sqrt(1)) |
| 21:13.07 | foxlit | e^(ipi) + 1 = 0 |
| 21:13.10 | Shirik | boo |
| 21:13.17 | Shirik | that's an alternate definition ya |
| 21:13.19 | foxlit | -1? |
| 21:13.27 | Shirik | e^(i*pi) = 0 - 1 |
| 21:13.34 | Shirik | all 5 main mathematical constants |
| 21:13.34 | Valaron|Work | Pi joke? |
| 21:13.36 | Shirik | in one simple formula |
| 21:13.48 | Shirik | it's considered the proof of mature mathematics |
| 21:13.53 | foxlit | math.ln(1)^(math.pi * math.sqrt(1)) is wrong |
| 21:13.59 | Shirik | first came 0, then 1, then pi, then e, then i |
| 21:14.02 | foxlit | you're just doing e^pi |
| 21:14.06 | Shirik | oops |
| 21:14.08 | Shirik | meant -1 :P |
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| 21:14.23 | foxlit | Frankly, move 1 to the other side |
| 21:14.29 | Shirik | I don't think lua can handle imaginary numbers |
| 21:14.37 | Shirik | sorry phone |
| 21:14.58 | foxlit | That way, you're not forcing 0 to be there |
| 21:15.18 | foxlit | (and in some cases, 1 came before 0) |
| 21:16.42 | Valaron|Work | "what is the volume of a pizza of radius z and thickness a ?" |
| 21:17.36 | Valaron|Work | pi z z a |
| 21:17.38 | Josh_Borke | what about the crust? |
| 21:17.47 | zenzelezz | I don't think this is a coincidence; a guy asks on Ventrilo for one more to come outside to help summon and no-one moves; a girl asks and five people turn and run |
| 21:17.58 | Josh_Borke | lol |
| 21:18.11 | Valaron|Work | Ventrilo is the devil |
| 21:18.54 | Valaron|Work | The Internet is made for typing. |
| 21:19.22 | zenzelezz | I'm a typer myself, but I use what my guild uses so it doesn't become my former guild |
| 21:19.51 | Mr_Rabies2 | rofl, zenzelezz |
| 21:20.26 | Valaron|Work | My guild isn't a raiding guild. My typing has improved 400% because of it. |
| 21:20.41 | |Jelly| | My typing improved cause of my bard in EQ. |
| 21:20.58 | zenzelezz | you had to type things out as a bard? |
| 21:21.05 | Mr_Rabies2 | i don't think i could play a bard |
| 21:21.07 | |Jelly| | in three second intervals |
| 21:21.09 | Mr_Rabies2 | I PLAY MUSIC AND HEAL YOU |
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| 21:30.09 | |Jelly| | "[4] <Katzu>: LF2M BM, need Tank and Healer" I love those. 3dps = not a group. |
| 21:30.53 | Mr_Rabies2 | most of my groups end up that way |
| 21:31.05 | |Jelly| | They make me giggle inside. |
| 21:31.20 | clad|away | Shirik|AFK: what libs does this need to link against? |
| 21:31.40 | clad|away | and i'm sad you didn't do this on a unix system to start with =( |
| 21:32.15 | Lunessa | |Jelly|: Ain't it the truth? |
| 21:32.29 | MoonWolf | Would not have been a bad idea that cladhaire |
| 21:32.37 | cladhaire | ? |
| 21:32.38 | |Jelly| | I suppose if you don't play a healer, it might not be funny. But I do and to me, it is. |
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| 21:33.30 | Mr_Rabies2 | the funniest thing is |
| 21:33.53 | Mr_Rabies2 | "LF2M need healer and tank NO MORE ROGUES PLEASE" |
| 21:34.51 | Lunessa | *snicker* The worst part is when I want to play one of my non-healers to do a quest, and pick up 3 more guildees - then one of them says, "Why not just get out your priest and we can take anyone?" |
| 21:35.28 | Valaron|Work | Hurk |
| 21:35.36 | |Jelly| | "Cause I don't want to. Why not level a priest and then you can heal?" |
| 21:36.16 | Lunessa | I usually answer, "Cause I'm putting together a group so my (mage, warlock, shaman) can finish this quest. Switching to my priest defeats the purpose, no?" |
| 21:36.53 | cladhaire | priests don't heal.. not sure what game you guys play.. *psh* |
| 21:36.56 | Mr_Rabies2 | i usually dont bother trying with excuses i just straight up tell em |
| 21:37.09 | |Jelly| | I outhealed the paladin last night, with the lowest overheal. 8P |
| 21:37.17 | Mr_Rabies2 | "we may need you to respec resto, is that okay?" "no." |
| 21:37.21 | cladhaire | so.. moving 9GiB of data from one host to another.. is frustrating.. when they both kill processes that have been running for too long. |
| 21:37.55 | pastamancer | rsync? |
| 21:38.35 | Mr_Rabies2 | N*SYNC |
| 21:38.46 | cladhaire | pastamancer: will rsync run over ftp? |
| 21:39.27 | pastamancer | no, it runs over ssh |
| 21:39.32 | Lunessa | 9GB over FTP... ouch. I hope you have a fat pip. |
| 21:39.39 | Lunessa | pipe |
| 21:39.39 | cladhaire | Lunessa: its their pipe not mine |
| 21:40.00 | cladhaire | pastamancer: doesn't it need a "server" running tho? |
| 21:40.06 | cladhaire | i'm almost done, but I'd love to know more :P |
| 21:40.28 | pastamancer | nah, it just needs to be installed on both ends, and you need a local account on both ends... or a rsyncd running on the end you don't have a local account on |
| 21:40.45 | pastamancer | I use it for backing up database dumps |
| 21:41.11 | cladhaire | i've used rsync before, but not for anything like this =) |
| 21:41.17 | pastamancer | if you don't have control over both machines, it's probably not very useful |
| 21:41.25 | cladhaire | define "control" :P |
| 21:41.52 | pastamancer | well, if the remote machine doesn't have rsync and you can't install it, that's not very useful :p |
| 21:42.10 | Valaron|Work | I use rdist :) |
| 21:42.13 | cladhaire | i have rsync available on both machines |
| 21:42.24 | cladhaire | but unless rsync is mult-threaded it wouldn't help over what i have now. |
| 21:43.23 | cladhaire | right now i have 4 distributed wget sessions pulling the data over ftp :P |
| 21:43.26 | pastamancer | I've used it repeatedly over unstable connections to sync up two filesystems... run rsync, get disconnected, run rsync again and it starts up where it left off |
| 21:43.29 | cladhaire | and when my host kills em, i just restart |
| 21:43.46 | |Jelly| | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=110564953&sid=1 <- My win post of the day, I think. |
| 21:44.00 | pastamancer | if wget can resume and check ctime, then you should be fine |
| 21:44.20 | cladhaire | yeah it does |
| 21:44.32 | cladhaire | just wish you could give it a max thread count, and have it go to town =) |
| 21:44.37 | cladhaire | instead i have to manually do it |
| 21:45.57 | Lunessa | I believe you have my stapler. |
| 21:46.15 | |Jelly| | Lunessa: <3 |
| 21:46.15 | zenzelezz | it's MY stapler now |
| 21:46.35 | Lunessa | And I said, "No. No salt on the margarita." |
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| 22:04.11 | Mr_Rabies2 | not other frames? |
| 22:04.13 | Mr_Rabies2 | eep |
| 22:04.20 | Mr_Rabies2 | /click only works with action buttons, not other frames? |
| 22:04.30 | Mr_Rabies2 | forgot to ctrl click the line with the / |
| 22:04.48 | Shirik|AFK | cladhaire: Let me double check before I answer |
| 22:05.13 | cladhaire | ok |
| 22:05.14 | Mr_Rabies2 | hohoho nevermind i got it working |
| 22:05.43 | Shirik|AFK | should only be standard libs though |
| 22:06.46 | Shirik|AFK | why the jack do I still have 800 ping |
| 22:06.50 | Shirik|AFK | ffs my school network sucks |
| 22:06.54 | Shirik|AFK | thank god it's only another 2 days |
| 22:07.38 | Mr_Rabies2 | run into the IT department with a bunch of salt water |
| 22:07.44 | Mr_Rabies2 | and just start throwing it like crazy |
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| 22:09.58 | Shirik|AFK | cladhaire: I'm looking at linker options atm I don't see anything extra :/ should just be standard library |
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| 22:12.34 | cladhaire | hrm |
| 22:12.41 | cladhaire | *shrug* |
| 22:12.47 | Valaron|Work | Whatcha linking? |
| 22:13.05 | Shirik|AFK | I'll show you what my command line says but |
| 22:13.08 | Shirik|AFK | I don't think any of this is necessary |
| 22:13.14 | Shirik|AFK | kernel32.lib user32.lib gdi32.lib winspool.lib comdlg32.lib advapi32.lib shell32.lib ole32.lib oleaut32.lib uuid.lib odbc32.lib odbccp32.lib |
| 22:13.21 | Shirik|AFK | did you get a linker error? |
| 22:13.29 | Mr_Rabies2 | man |
| 22:13.33 | Mr_Rabies2 | i love pitbull |
| 22:13.36 | Valaron|Work | Hmm... Visual Studio? |
| 22:13.39 | Mr_Rabies2 | but dogtags are driving me crazy :[ |
| 22:13.42 | Shirik|AFK | yeah :P |
| 22:13.47 | Valaron|Work | Blech |
| 22:13.51 | Shirik|AFK | hey |
| 22:13.57 | Valaron|Work | :) |
| 22:14.00 | Shirik|AFK | it's one of Microsoft's actually good programs |
| 22:14.12 | Shirik|AFK | extremely rare to come across one |
| 22:14.23 | deltron | Shirik|AFK: powershell is <3 |
| 22:14.26 | Shirik|AFK | besides I get it for free ^^ |
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| 22:16.04 | Shirik|AFK | I should learn how to make makefiles :( |
| 22:16.13 | Valaron|Work | Sorry.. Don't know enough Windows programming to help. |
| 22:16.15 | Shirik | I'm causing cladhaire so much stress :( |
| 22:16.21 | Shirik | It's actually not windows programming |
| 22:16.23 | Shirik | it's standard C++ |
| 22:16.42 | Valaron|Work | Err.. Don't have Visual Studio knowledge. |
| 22:16.51 | Shirik | cladhaire's not using Visual Studio :P |
| 22:17.02 | cladhaire | Shirik: you shoudl use gcc not visual studio |
| 22:17.03 | Valaron|Work | int main () { return 0; } |
| 22:17.13 | Shirik | no! |
| 22:17.23 | Shirik | int main(int argc, char[] argv)! |
| 22:17.39 | Shirik | er, sorry |
| 22:17.41 | Shirik | char* argv[] |
| 22:18.02 | Valaron|Work | cout << "Hello, world!" << endl; |
| 22:18.08 | Shirik | std::cout and std::endl :P |
| 22:18.13 | Shirik | or using namespace std; |
| 22:18.22 | Shirik | hehe |
| 22:18.25 | MoonWolf_ | I prefer using namespace std personally. |
| 22:18.30 | Shirik | yeah I usually do that |
| 22:18.31 | Valaron|Work | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:18.42 | *** mode/#wowi-lounge [+v MoonWolf] by ChanServ |
| 22:19.00 | Shirik | anyway Valaron|Work what we're referring to is a lolcode interpreter |
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| 22:19.39 | MoonWolf | lolcode has some funny stuff |
| 22:19.40 | Josh_Borke | it's official. i'm convinced that the connection on the other side of the fiber is screwy |
| 22:19.59 | MoonWolf | cut it, put on new connector |
| 22:20.07 | Valaron|Work | Write the interpreter in perl. |
| 22:20.08 | MoonWolf | hmm |
| 22:20.08 | Shirik | http://wowi.pastey.net/59627 |
| 22:20.12 | Valaron|Work | Woo |
| 22:20.12 | Shirik | Valaron|Work: Already done |
| 22:20.19 | Shirik | it's on their site somewhere |
| 22:20.21 | MoonWolf | o wonder wonder how you could do sockets in lolcode. |
| 22:20.26 | Shirik | but, there's one problem |
| 22:20.35 | Shirik | the specification requires newlines |
| 22:20.35 | N00bZXI | ...what did I log on to IRC to? |
| 22:20.38 | Shirik | which won't work on IRC |
| 22:20.45 | Shirik | so we had to mess around with it when we made this one ^^ |
| 22:20.50 | Shirik | so we could allow for everything to be on one line |
| 22:21.30 | Valaron|Work | Sorry.. I've been fuxing around with Active Directory. Haven't been paying attention to this window. |
| 22:23.54 | Shirik | http://wowi.pastey.net/59631 |
| 22:24.50 | Lunessa | Someone, please slip cyanide into my next soda... |
| 22:24.56 | Shirik | will do! |
| 22:25.03 | Shirik | can I have your account? |
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| 22:25.39 | zenzelezz | you didn't visit the General forum, did you, Lunessa? |
| 22:25.56 | Lunessa | Gripofdeath makes me feel like dying. |
| 22:26.25 | zenzelezz | what's that? |
| 22:26.32 | Lunessa | Shirik: Do you really want a priest, mage, warlock, and shaman in meh gear? |
| 22:26.42 | Shirik | ? |
| 22:26.57 | Lunessa | He's a poster in UI & Macros that probably shouldn't own a computer. |
| 22:27.02 | zenzelezz | re "using namespace std", I find it disappointing how you can advocate not cluttering the Lua global namespace, and still do that |
| 22:27.03 | Lunessa | My account. :P |
| 22:27.46 | Valaron|Work | At least you didn't have to answer. |
| 22:27.51 | Valaron|Work | .. or Cogwheel |
| 22:28.37 | Shirik | zenzelezz: it's not really cluttering the global namespace :P |
| 22:28.39 | Shirik | And for the record |
| 22:28.45 | Shirik | I only did it in one of the files in lolcode interpreter |
| 22:28.46 | Shirik | not all |
| 22:28.57 | Shirik | just cause I got sick of writing std:: before everything about 1/5 lines |
| 22:28.59 | |Jelly| | Lunessa: It's for you. <3 |
| 22:29.09 | Shirik | at first I wasn't doing that |
| 22:29.10 | Shirik | then I gave up |
| 22:29.42 | zenzelezz | I went the other way |
| 22:29.44 | Lunessa | |Jelly|: LAWL |
| 22:30.38 | |Jelly| | Dear Lunessa, <3 -Jelly. hehe |
| 22:31.06 | |Jelly| | I wonder what oh so witty response he'll come up with. |
| 22:32.14 | Valaron|Work | "halp, plz" |
| 22:32.24 | Valaron|Work | without the comma |
| 22:32.40 | Lunessa | I r nubcakes halp |
| 22:33.59 | cog|work | if you manually write a function in a saved variables file, will it run when the variables are loaded? |
| 22:34.22 | cog|work | (assuming it's called in the sv file) |
| 22:36.16 | Lunessa | Good question. Is anything in saved variablkes executable, or is it litterally only 'saved variables'? |
| 22:39.32 | N00bZXI | Saved variables of what? |
| 22:41.12 | bleeter | Lunessa: you could think of the SV as a 'saved state' of the lua environment at the point in time of logout/reloadui, the state being what the various variables are set to. |
| 22:41.47 | bleeter | Lunessa: well, at least that's my understanding. Anyways, from that vague description it follows that nothing is directly executable |
| 22:41.59 | N00bZXI | oh, lua |
| 22:42.42 | N00bZXI | Saved variables are variables that've been saved and will equal the same they were saved when you load |
| 22:42.42 | Lunessa | Yeah, which is how I was thinking about it, but it never occurred to me to write a function in it. Actually, I was thinking of it more like a scratch pad ... |
| 22:42.44 | cog|work | The saved variables files are valid lua files |
| 22:42.56 | cog|work | that simply assign values to variables |
| 22:43.11 | N00bZXI | Lunessa: I believe you can |
| 22:43.24 | cog|work | makes parsing them REALLY FRIGGIN easy if you're using Lua for your parser :) |
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| 22:58.39 | foxlit | There are some things SVs don't serialize |
| 22:58.49 | foxlit | But you typically won't want to be saving those |
| 22:58.56 | |Jelly| | Ok Lunessa. I might have to drive down there and buy YOU a drink. |
| 22:59.30 | Lunessa | You liked that, huh? |
| 22:59.38 | |Jelly| | Indeed I did. |
| 23:00.55 | |Jelly| | It's kind of hard to type hick...especially when you speak nothing like that. |
| 23:00.57 | Lunessa | After this week .. I NEED some drinks. |
| 23:01.53 | Lunessa | Why |Jelly| ah don' know whatevah you mean, sugah. Ya'll are frum Texhas tew. |
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| 23:02.23 | |Jelly| | And it took you that long to type that. 8P |
| 23:02.46 | Lunessa | I was typing another forum post. :P |
| 23:02.52 | |Jelly| | all lies |
| 23:09.32 | cog|work | |Jelly|: http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=112592359&postId=1125923997&sid=1#1 |
| 23:10.56 | |Jelly| | cog|work You win. |
| 23:11.15 | Lunessa | Cog is full of awesome and win. |
| 23:11.45 | |Jelly| | Ok. Am I crazy or is there an option for Omen to grow upwards that I'm simply not seeing? |
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| 23:12.48 | Gnomechomsky | What is the battlefield map frame's name? Or where can I find out? |
| 23:13.16 | cog|work | you can find out at http://wdn.wowinterface.com/ if no one here knows off the top of their head |
| 23:13.39 | cog|work | or use the interface extractor linked in the Mod Author Resources sticky |
| 23:13.41 | |Jelly| | You can download the frame information from the UI Designer thinggy, if I recall. |
| 23:14.15 | Valaron|Work | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:14.29 | |Jelly| | There ya go. |
| 23:14.36 | Valaron|Work | It's in the keybinding, too. |
| 23:14.44 | Gnomechomsky | Yeah, that may actually be what I'm looking for. Thanks, Valaron! |
| 23:14.50 | Valaron|Work | np |
| 23:15.03 | Valaron|Work | btw: It's in the wowwiki. |
| 23:15.04 | Gnomechomsky | I probably would have looked there first if I didn't know what a frame was. /sigh |
| 23:15.37 | Antiarc|Work | |Jelly|: Yeah, it's in Display options |
| 23:18.28 | |Jelly| | http://img519.imageshack.us/img519/4306/crywheremq3.jpg : / |
| 23:18.49 | |Jelly| | Antiarc|Work: http://img519.imageshack.us/img519/4306/crywheremq3.jpg rather. (Ping!) |
| 23:19.19 | Antiarc|Work | Hrm. Maybe the skins menu? Lemme look at the source :P |
| 23:19.33 | Antiarc|Work | Oh |
| 23:19.35 | |Jelly| | yeah |
| 23:19.38 | |Jelly| | Skins>Bars |
| 23:19.40 | Antiarc|Work | It's in Skins -> Skin Options -> Bars -> Grow Up |
| 23:19.44 | |Jelly| | I = passed right over it. |
| 23:19.47 | Antiarc|Work | Don't think it should be there, though |
| 23:19.54 | Antiarc|Work | That's not a skin option, it's a user option |
| 23:19.58 | Antiarc|Work | I'll fix it! |
| 23:20.01 | |Jelly| | Ut oh! |
| 23:20.03 | |Jelly| | yay! |
| 23:21.12 | |Jelly| | Can you make an option to hide the Omen/Threat release ids? I don't mind them per se but I also would like to line up Omen with my border without overlap (and well...text) |
| 23:22.04 | foxlit | >>> not 1 |
| 23:22.23 | foxlit | More importantly, not not 1 == false? |
| 23:23.39 | Antiarc|Work | Yeah, I'm gonna add an option to turn off the title and the version numbers |
| 23:23.53 | Antiarc|Work | Need to figure out where the put the "Yer out of date" text, though, since I don't really want that hidden |
| 23:24.10 | |Jelly| | I say error frame. 8P |
| 23:24.57 | Antiarc|Work | Heh, that's just a little too mean. |
| 23:25.08 | |Jelly| | Or flash the borders of the screen in rainbow colors and embed a MP3 that chants "UPDATE OMEN" in gregorian monk chants |
| 23:25.47 | foxlit | Just scew threat when out of date |
| 23:25.48 | |Jelly| | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=112632361&sid=1 Cog. You win yet again. |
| 23:25.52 | foxlit | Get people killed, then they'll update! |
| 23:25.52 | Lunessa | |Jelly|: LOL - "Make sure you set your Flux Capacitor to EXACTLY 1.21 jiggawats!" |
| 23:26.10 | Antiarc|Work | Threat's one of those things that is kinda important for all raid members to be relatively recent with each other :P |
| 23:26.45 | |Jelly| | Lunessa: 8) I aim to please! |
| 23:31.57 | cladhaire | Okay |
| 23:31.59 | cladhaire | there's a magical C function that I don't have |
| 23:32.01 | cladhaire | and it makes me a sad panda =/ |
| 23:32.07 | Antiarc|Work | DoMagic() ? |
| 23:32.11 | cladhaire | no |
| 23:32.20 | cladhaire | the game can change the color of these models, and I can't. |
| 23:32.30 | Antiarc|Work | What, you mean like when a model is poisoned? |
| 23:32.34 | cladhaire | no |
| 23:32.37 | cladhaire | i mean the minimap arrows |
| 23:32.40 | Antiarc|Work | Ooh. |
| 23:32.40 | cladhaire | they can make them golden |
| 23:32.49 | cladhaire | i want TomTom's arrows green |
| 23:32.50 | cladhaire | the model is grey |
| 23:32.50 | Antiarc|Work | Sure it's not a separate model? |
| 23:32.51 | cladhaire | =( |
| 23:32.55 | cladhaire | nope, same model file. |
| 23:32.58 | Antiarc|Work | Boo. |
| 23:33.04 | cladhaire | true dat =/ |
| 23:33.10 | bleeter | I want tomtom to fix the worldmapbutton foo in release |
| 23:33.19 | cladhaire | it will |
| 23:33.37 | bleeter | just checking you ain't forgotten ;) |
| 23:33.44 | cladhaire | its been commited for some time now. |
| 23:34.45 | cog|work | Poo... there's nothing in the forum guidelines about excessive punctuation in titles :P |
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| 23:35.02 | |Jelly| | There should be. |
| 23:35.08 | |Jelly| | Cause that's just jackassery. |
| 23:35.19 | foxlit | 0+ chars, greedy == *? |
| 23:35.29 | cog|work | I was going to post "This hijack brought to you by [insert link to forum guidelines]" |
| 23:35.55 | cog|work | ROFL! the OP's response wins |
| 23:36.05 | cog|work | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=112592359&pageNo=1&sid=1#8 |
| 23:37.12 | foxlit | string.match(item, "%s*(.+)%s*"); |
| 23:37.17 | foxlit | Is this effectively a trim? |
| 23:37.47 | Lunessa | Meh ... He's on Illidan - there's only one person on Illidan I'd assist with anything, and that's Nymbia. Who doesn't need my help. :P |
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| 23:53.27 | cladhaire | Has anyone here worked with models at all? |
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| 23:53.53 | foxlit | Model widgets? |
| 23:53.59 | cladhaire | yes |
| 23:54.02 | bleeter | yes, but the pics aren't suitable for acquaintences to view |
| 23:54.06 | bleeter | oh, nm me |
| 23:54.40 | foxlit | cladhaire: yes. |
| 23:54.45 | foxlit | Nothing too detailed, but yes |
| 23:54.54 | cladhaire | foxlit: I can't get my model to display any sequence other than the default |
| 23:54.59 | cladhaire | its like its being overwritten by the engine |
| 23:55.09 | cladhaire | and its not a PlayerModel, its just a straight Model widget |
| 23:56.55 | cladhaire | its getting to be rather frustrating :P |
