| 00:03.53 | N00bZXI | BTW, since someone here made me realize there's no reason not to submit something I've written, I did: http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info7293-Rage_Buffs.html |
| 00:06.17 | Lunessa | :D |
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| 00:07.33 | Corrodias | now i wonder how i can set bongos to NOT replace my action bars except the pet bar ;) |
| 00:08.32 | Karrion | N00bZXI: nice |
| 00:09.34 | Karrion | now make an option to show things you can't cast but someone in your group/raid can, and that you can click on to bitch at them in chat until they give it to you >.> |
| 00:11.15 | N00bZXI | Karrion: You'd need a completely different mod for that lol |
| 00:11.47 | |Jelly| | "bitch at them in chat until they give it to you" I like that part. |
| 00:11.57 | Karrion | yeah I know... you'll get asked for that a lot though, I'm betting |
| 00:12.36 | Corrodias | kinda doesn't look like i can tell bongos to leave my normal bars alone |
| 00:12.56 | Tuller | Corrodias: true |
| 00:13.22 | Tuller | ct can act as a supplement, and so can cogsbar, I think |
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| 00:13.33 | Corrodias | my search continues :) |
| 00:13.46 | N00bZXI | Corrodias: What are you trying to do? |
| 00:14.00 | Corrodias | i've seen a bug reported for the current version of CT with 2.1.2 about the bars being locked so you can't use abilities after changing your stance, so i'll try the other first |
| 00:14.06 | Corrodias | i want to replace the pet bar, but only the pet bar |
| 00:14.17 | N00bZXI | Why do you want to replace it? |
| 00:14.35 | Corrodias | because blizzard's code tends to taint it |
| 00:14.39 | N00bZXI | Ah |
| 00:14.51 | Corrodias | even the "pet bar fix" type addons can't alleviate the issue completely |
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| 00:16.01 | Tuller | well if it makes you feel better, bongos lets blizzard control most of the pet bar |
| 00:16.06 | Tuller | just not the placement/layout |
| 00:16.17 | Sixen_ | Wow, laggy. |
| 00:16.20 | N00bZXI | Everything I know of does |
| 00:16.53 | Corrodias | well, it's just that a forum thread i saw about this issue had people using bongos (or was it bartender?) saying that it wasn't affecting them |
| 00:17.12 | N00bZXI | I'm using Nurfed and it doesn't affect me |
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| 00:17.44 | zenzelezz | what isn't affecting you? |
| 00:17.57 | N00bZXI | Petbar issues, shows fine in-combat when using MC |
| 00:18.03 | |Jelly| | da aidz! |
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| 00:19.06 | N00bZXI | lol |
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| 00:19.33 | Corrodias | what addon does it use to make its action bars? |
| 00:19.53 | N00bZXI | What addon does what use? |
| 00:19.58 | mikma | Corrodias: default |
| 00:20.08 | Corrodias | nurfed. it's a compilation according to wowi. |
| 00:20.22 | N00bZXI | Nurfed is a standalone addon which has it's own actionbars/unitframes |
| 00:20.24 | N00bZXI | nurfedui.net |
| 00:20.36 | Corrodias | my mistake; maybe it's just huge |
| 00:20.48 | N00bZXI | It's a UI suite |
| 00:21.01 | Corrodias | no, it actually says it includes ct_mailmod, ct_timer, gatherer, etc |
| 00:21.10 | N00bZXI | That's from a very long time ago |
| 00:21.20 | N00bZXI | It's not updated on UI sites anymore |
| 00:22.15 | N00bZXI | If you want to take a look it's website is nurfedui.net |
| 00:23.19 | Corrodias | okay, yeah, that's a little more updated |
| 00:23.50 | Sixen | Anyone know the 2.2 Toc? |
| 00:23.54 | Sixen | @.1.2* |
| 00:24.00 | Sixen | Or is it still 20100? |
| 00:24.02 | N00bZXI | My guess is 20200? |
| 00:24.19 | N00bZXI | Oh it's same |
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| 00:24.25 | Sixen | Figures :P |
| 00:24.27 | N00bZXI | Or at least it's never changed until a major patch |
| 00:24.53 | Kaydeethree | 2.0.3? |
| 00:25.03 | Sixen | Hai2u Kaydee. |
| 00:25.11 | Kaydeethree | heya |
| 00:25.14 | Sixen | I think i've seen you post in the CSF before; I'm Elzix |
| 00:25.44 | Kaydeethree | ah. I'm a very, very rare poster in CS. only if nothing's happening in UI |
| 00:28.19 | Lunessa | I stick to where I think I can help. Guild Relations, UI & Macros, and if I'm feeling saucy, my realm forum. |
| 00:28.46 | Sixen | Mmm, I remember you saying how my posts in the Battle.net OTS looked like oyurs in the UI&M :P |
| 00:32.13 | Kaydeethree | ah, I remember that |
| 00:32.27 | Kaydeethree | the wall of "last-posted-by"s |
| 00:32.32 | Sixen | Haha, yeah :P |
| 00:34.34 | Sixen | Hai Cairenn |
| 00:34.47 | Cairenn | ohai! |
| 00:35.03 | Cairenn | I've been here all day, just forgot to change my nick ;) |
| 00:35.07 | Sixen | Oh, haha., |
| 00:35.10 | Sixen | I just got here anyway |
| 00:35.22 | Cairenn | :) |
| 00:37.05 | Sixen | Brb. |
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| 00:51.08 | bleeter | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=110567683 |
| 00:51.19 | bleeter | " it was very odd watching a duel between titanpanel and cosmos, still not sure who won." lol |
| 00:51.29 | bleeter | blue response is good, too |
| 00:51.51 | |Jelly| | HAHAHAHAHA |
| 00:52.49 | Kaydeethree | lmao, a blue "no u"? |
| 00:52.50 | Kaydeethree | ahahaha |
| 00:53.12 | Lunessa | lol |
| 00:53.17 | bleeter | yeah, thread was moved from tech support form where that was posted methinks |
| 00:53.23 | bleeter | *from |
| 00:56.35 | |Jelly| | Stop linking crap from general! I didn't think I'd ever get the stink off last time! |
| 00:58.24 | bleeter | |Jelly| lubs teh genral |
| 00:58.45 | |Jelly| | Honestly? The only time I look at it is when someone links something from there. |
| 00:59.25 | bleeter | it's a bit of a bummer one can't tell which forum a thread is by the URL |
| 01:00.14 | |Jelly| | It's not that. |
| 01:00.39 | |Jelly| | I'm so used to clicking on the arrow next to the forum name that I accidently go into the General forums and my head kind of explodes. |
| 01:03.23 | Lunessa | Well, that's one way to spread |Jelly| ... |
| 01:03.33 | |Jelly| | oh man... |
| 01:03.43 | |Jelly| | I have to admit, that's one of the better ones I've heard lately. |
| 01:03.55 | N00bZXI | rofl |
| 01:04.00 | zenzelezz | Thunder_Child would love that one |
| 01:04.15 | Thunder_Child | i hate you zenzelezz |
| 01:04.16 | Lunessa | Couldn't help myself. I can never resist a chance at dry humor and a double entendre. |
| 01:04.20 | zenzelezz | :) |
| 01:04.43 | |Jelly| | Seriously. I'm so tired of people hitting on me through use of my name. |
| 01:04.53 | |Jelly| | And even worse is when they know I'm a guy and continue. |
| 01:05.00 | zenzelezz | I love hit-and-puns |
| 01:05.36 | N00bZXI | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=110567683&sid=1&pageNo=2#31 |
| 01:05.38 | N00bZXI | lmao |
| 01:05.40 | Lunessa | I just wanted to make a joke. Since you just sort of left the opening... I thought I'd take it. |
| 01:05.51 | |Jelly| | Aww. Lunessa <3 |
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| 01:11.00 | Lunessa | Man, |Jelly| Pop a shiner, eat some BBQ... You're wound tighter than a junebug on a leash near a bug-zapper. - http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=110567793&sid=1 |
| 01:11.14 | Lunessa | Hell, I'll buy the first Shiner. |
| 01:11.25 | |Jelly| | Alright. To Fort Worth you go! |
| 01:11.36 | Lunessa | Mmm... 4 hour drive. |
| 01:11.54 | Lunessa | Maybe 5 since I'm right on the shore. |
| 01:12.29 | |Jelly| | So what are you waiting for?! |
| 01:12.50 | Lunessa | <-- Still at w*rk. |
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| 01:17.33 | Thunder_Child | <-- still at home being lazy |
| 01:30.41 | Thrae | Q: What did Neo say when he was faced with the task of eating miso soup at a Japanese restaurant? |
| 01:30.57 | Thrae | A: There is no spoon. |
| 01:31.06 | Garoun | does anyone know if you can summon Nightbane anytime once you've finished the quest? |
| 01:31.31 | zenzelezz | pretty sure you can, as long as you haven't killed him that week |
| 01:31.44 | Garoun | that's what I thought, just not sure ;) |
| 01:31.56 | zenzelezz | I'm not positive about it; only pretty sure |
| 01:32.01 | Garoun | it'll be our first week on him so won't be an issue anyway hehe |
| 01:32.30 | Garoun | dorf priest in raid so looking forward to it |
| 01:32.57 | Lunessa | Karazhan is serious business. |
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| 01:36.54 | |Jelly| | <3 Kara |
| 01:46.00 | Lunessa | Ugh... chocies... wait an hour and a half or go get food now.... |
| 01:46.23 | |Jelly| | you have a long drive ahead of you 8P |
| 01:46.52 | Lunessa | Screw that. You drive here. |
| 01:47.24 | |Jelly| | eh |
| 01:47.30 | |Jelly| | Never did like Houston that much |
| 01:49.13 | Lunessa | What's not to like... other than the traffic, the pollution, the crappy beaches, the 172 strip clubs, or the high crime rate? |
| 01:49.30 | |Jelly| | I dunno. Just never liked it. |
| 01:50.43 | Lunessa | Now you know how I feel about Dallas/Ft.Worth. |
| 01:50.57 | |Jelly| | Oh, I hate them too. lol |
| 01:51.11 | cladhaire | Shirik|zZz: you got pwned |
| 01:51.18 | |Jelly| | ?? |
| 01:52.17 | JoshBorke | o.O |
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| 01:53.52 | JoshBorke | nn |
| 02:05.44 | Kirkburn | "After a lot of thought and deliberation, we've decided to remove the attunement requirements to enter Serpentshrine Cavern and Tempest Keep: The Eye." |
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| 02:07.01 | Kaydeethree | oO; |
| 02:07.28 | |Jelly| | Kaydeethree: Welcome to like eight hours ago! 8P |
| 02:08.46 | Lunessa | I think I will do the quests any way... for the $$ |
| 02:08.53 | Lunessa | And the Bling |
| 02:18.29 | FlAWD | anyone here know psyBNC at all? :P |
| 02:21.11 | Shirik|zZz | cladhaire ? |
| 02:21.49 | cladhaire | Shirik|zZz: someone wrote a lolcode > lua translator using lpeg, i just can't get it to run yet =) |
| 02:21.54 | Corrodias | brb, rebooting |
| 02:22.08 | Shirik|zZz | meh |
| 02:22.23 | Shirik|zZz | the intention all along was not to rely on another interpreter |
| 02:22.53 | Shirik|zZz | doing that skips the entire need for tokenization, variable storage, anything difficult |
| 02:23.37 | Shirik|zZz | there already exists a file to do that for C++ on the lolcode site, just need to change the words around a bit and you've got it for lua in about 50 lines |
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| 02:34.29 | Kaydeethree | zomg I now have t5. yay for the loot pinata |
| 02:34.37 | Corrodias | >:o |
| 02:34.58 | Cide | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=110536090&postId=1104889939&sid=1#21 |
| 02:36.42 | AnduinLothar | yeah.. |
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| 02:36.57 | Seracht | Hey |
| 02:37.00 | AnduinLothar | speaking of ace... anyone wanna try my Ace2Khaos beta? |
| 02:37.11 | Seracht | is it possibel to make a macro that chooses ground mount in azeroth and flying in outland |
| 02:37.12 | |Jelly| | I wanna try RDX.Ace |
| 02:37.34 | AnduinLothar | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:37.34 | AnduinLothar | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:37.51 | Lunessa | Ace2Khaos? ... *blinks* |
| 02:37.55 | AnduinLothar | http://www.cosmosui.org/download.php?t=addons&f=Ace2Khaos.zip |
| 02:38.00 | Seracht | adn those 2 one after another?/ |
| 02:39.25 | FlAWD | [Space Left On]-[C: 196.344/233.757 GB D: 29.061/233.749 GB E: 119.405/465.759 GB ]-[Total: 344.810/933.265 GB]-[CNCDLL] |
| 02:39.36 | FlAWD | err ... wrong chan .. srry |
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| 02:40.53 | Lunessa | AnduinLothar: Wow. I thought you were kidding. But looks slick. |
| 02:45.15 | AnduinLothar | http://icanhascheezburger.com/2007/01/12/cattank/ |
| 02:47.14 | FlAWD | lol |
| 02:48.23 | batrick | why is it that I can't call a local function in the same chunk inside an anonymous function |
| 02:48.27 | batrick | : ( |
| 02:49.11 | Cide- | um? |
| 02:49.29 | Cide- | >>> local function foo() print("hi"); end (function() foo() end)() |
| 02:49.29 | Cide- | Cide-: "hi" |
| 02:49.41 | Cide- | >>> (function() local function foo() print("hi"); end foo() end)() |
| 02:49.42 | Cide- | Cide-: "hi" |
| 02:49.58 | batrick | :S |
| 02:50.02 | batrick | ok must be something else then |
| 02:50.14 | FlAWD | >>> (function() local function foo() print("hi"); end foo() end)() |
| 02:50.15 | Cide- | FlAWD: "hi" |
| 02:50.18 | FlAWD | that's VERY cool |
| 02:50.19 | FlAWD | :D |
| 02:51.04 | mikma | takes alot of mana to summon that cattank in game |
| 02:52.19 | batrick | >>>local foo; function t() print("o") local k = function() foo() end end local function foo() print("k") end t() |
| 02:52.19 | Cide- | batrick: "o" |
| 02:52.26 | batrick | O.o |
| 02:52.37 | batrick | whoops |
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| 02:52.58 | batrick | >>>local foo; function t() print("o") local k = function() foo() end k() end local function foo() print("k") end t() |
| 02:52.59 | Cide- | batrick: [string "local foo; function t() print("o") local k ..."]:1: attempt to call upvalue 'foo' (a nil value) |
| 02:53.02 | batrick | hah! |
| 02:53.29 | Cide- | remove the local |
| 02:53.32 | batrick | i'm guessing that makes a new memory location that foo can't find : ( |
| 02:53.36 | Cide- | >>> local foo; function t() print("o") local k = function() foo() end k() end function foo() print("k") end t() |
| 02:53.36 | Cide- | Cide-: "o", "k" |
| 02:53.41 | batrick | ya i know |
| 02:53.41 | Adys | can someone remind me the option to cast a spell on yourself in a macro? |
| 02:53.45 | batrick | but i want the local >< |
| 02:53.49 | Cide- | it still is local |
| 02:53.59 | batrick | o right |
| 02:54.00 | Cide- | as can be witnessed by: |
| 02:54.02 | batrick | i shoulda read what you put |
| 02:54.03 | Adys | ./cast [self]Arcane Intellect or something |
| 02:54.12 | Kaydeethree | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:54.21 | Adys | thanks |
| 02:54.22 | Cide- | >>> function abc() print(foo); end local foo; function t() print("o") local k = function() foo() end k() end function foo() print("k") end t() abc() |
| 02:54.22 | Cide- | Cide-: "o", "k", nil |
| 02:54.27 | batrick | I was thinking about that, but didn't want to go change all my functions to that qq |
| 02:54.50 | Adys | works, thx |
| 02:57.12 | Thunder_Child | anyone know what mod creates a soping list on the auction pane? |
| 02:57.34 | Thunder_Child | atsw... |
| 02:57.54 | Thunder_Child | nvm, found it |
| 03:09.02 | Lunessa | Wow. Dry wit fails. |
| 03:33.16 | Shirik|zZz | ~hug Cide |
| 03:33.16 | purl | ACTION hugs Cide |
| 03:33.22 | Shirik|zZz | bah he left |
| 03:33.32 | Shirik|zZz | oh wait no, he's just on Cide- |
| 03:33.38 | Shirik|zZz | because he fails at /ns ghost and identify |
| 03:33.41 | Cide- | indeed |
| 03:33.53 | Cide- | too lazy to do it 15 times a day now |
| 03:33.56 | Shirik|zZz | lol |
| 03:34.01 | Cide- | with my router sucking |
| 03:39.53 | Shirik|zZz | morons |
| 03:39.55 | Shirik|zZz | absolute morons |
| 03:40.39 | Shirik|zZz | I give up. Anyone who gets a virus anymore, I will laugh at them and not look back. They deserve it, both for their stupidity and their rudeness towards those whom try to help. |
| 03:40.54 | Kaydeethree | idiocy on the forums? |
| 03:41.05 | Shirik|zZz | yes |
| 03:41.09 | Shirik|zZz | and on that note, back to sleep |
| 03:41.49 | Shirik|zZz | though I do like the comment "Mcafee is a virus" |
| 03:47.27 | batrick | you know what else is a virus?! |
| 03:47.33 | batrick | ... |
| 03:47.38 | batrick | RDX! |
| 03:47.39 | batrick | sup |
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| 03:55.47 | N00bZXI | Norton is a virus much more than mcafee imo |
| 03:56.37 | Tain | Neither are anything close to a virus, stop that. |
| 03:59.18 | N00bZXI | Norton detects other security software as a 'virus' |
| 03:59.25 | N00bZXI | That makes it one - to me - at least |
| 03:59.43 | N00bZXI | (Specifically - spybot search&destroy) |
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| 04:09.13 | batrick | iriel |
| 04:09.34 | batrick | does local function foo() always remake that local? If you dont' mind my question :) |
| 04:15.00 | ckknight | batrick: local function foo() end translates into local foo; foo = function() end |
| 04:15.41 | batrick | so if I do |
| 04:15.45 | batrick | local foo |
| 04:15.51 | batrick | local function foo() end |
| 04:15.59 | batrick | the second overwrites the first? |
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| 04:17.11 | batrick | I had a function in between those two declarations use the first local anticipating it would become a function later |
| 04:25.08 | iriel | The second creates an entirely new local and sets that to a function |
| 04:25.12 | iriel | the earlier local is untouched |
| 04:25.18 | iriel | (You just can't reference it by name anymore) |
| 04:25.54 | batrick | that's kinda wierd but ok |
| 04:25.56 | batrick | thanks iriel |
| 04:26.22 | iriel | You have to remember that lua's variable scoping is entirely lexical (i.e. at parse time) |
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| 04:29.40 | Cairenn | Shirik|zZz: ping? |
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| 04:37.59 | Tem | have any of you heard of an issue where windows can see a harddisk but doesn't assign it a letter? |
| 04:38.09 | Tem | (so it only shows up in Device manager) |
| 04:38.17 | Tem | (and not in computer) |
| 04:38.21 | batrick | i imagine |
| 04:38.24 | batrick | if it can't mount it |
| 04:38.25 | iriel | No, can you give it a letter from disk manager? |
| 04:38.26 | batrick | that's what it would do |
| 04:39.17 | Tem | oh lol |
| 04:39.19 | Tem | yeah I can |
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| 04:39.24 | iriel | If batrick's theory is right you could check the event log too |
| 04:39.29 | Tem | I have to set up a volume |
| 04:39.42 | Thunder_Child | what batric said is correct |
| 04:40.02 | Thunder_Child | i have that isse with my flash drive wich is picked up as a hd |
| 04:40.10 | Thunder_Child | sometime i have to assign it a letter |
| 04:40.28 | Thunder_Child | and some 'nix flavors have the same issue |
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| 04:47.48 | N00bZXI | Question: How do I add code as an arguement? 'function a(b) if b()==true then something() else somethingelse() end' - would 'b = function() if something then return true end end' work? |
| 04:48.31 | iriel | N00bZXI: If your example was asking what I think it was asking, yes |
| 04:49.05 | cogwheel | you can also do 'function b() if something then return true end end' |
| 04:49.25 | cogwheel | it's semantically identical to b = function() ... |
| 04:49.28 | N00bZXI | iriel: Thanks. |
| 04:51.55 | N00bZXI | Hopefully this works, if it does, it'll be extremely useful |
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| 05:25.52 | iriel | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=110537991&postId=1104490725&sid=1#0 |
| 05:26.00 | iriel | For anyone who used to like my 'Actual changes' thread |
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| 06:13.24 | AnduinLothar | why can't a blizz staff member be paid to do that.. |
| 06:19.53 | Fin | ... because there's always someone who'll do it for free |
| 06:20.47 | Nom-_ | ugh |
| 06:20.48 | Nom-_ | * Added ERR_APPROACHING_NO_PLAY_TIME_2 - New reminder message to log out and do something else |
| 06:20.52 | Nom-_ | stupid chinese |
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| 06:21.26 | Nom- | * Added ERR_INVITE_RESTRICTED - Informs trial accounts they can't invite high level characters into groups |
| 06:21.31 | Nom- | YAY ANTI GOLD SPAMMERS |
| 06:22.01 | Fin | eh? I thought that would be to do with running out of paid time (first msg) |
| 06:23.10 | Nom- | no |
| 06:23.20 | Nom- | It's the new Chinese government thing where players can only play X hours per day |
| 06:23.29 | Nom- | And MMORPG companies have to enforce it |
| 06:23.31 | AnduinLothar | not new |
| 06:23.52 | Nom- | No, it's not new, but it's newly added to WoW |
| 06:24.22 | bleeter | wonder if the 'approaching no play time' will trigger in US/EU for the parental control foo |
| 06:24.44 | Nom- | heh doubt it |
| 06:25.04 | bleeter | Nom-: Optel ftw! :p |
| 06:30.57 | bleeter | iriel is a girl! |
| 06:31.31 | AnduinLothar | dont think so nom. it's been in for a while |
| 06:31.35 | Nom- | Now, there's no need for name calling... |
| 06:33.03 | bleeter | it's on the forum, must be true |
| 06:33.17 | TecnoBrat | This macro *should* work ... correct? /cast [target=vij] Blessing of Protection |
| 06:33.23 | TecnoBrat | Like syntactically |
| 06:33.41 | kaiden | TecnoBrat, no |
| 06:33.49 | kaiden | [target=requiresaunitidentifier] |
| 06:34.05 | TecnoBrat | hmmm how come it worked pre-patch .. was that a known change? |
| 06:34.07 | kaiden | ie player party1-5 raid1-40 |
| 06:34.21 | kaiden | ah, weird, didn't know target could take a not unit token |
| 06:34.34 | kaiden | it was probably a bug and they fixed it |
| 06:34.42 | kaiden | it's quite easy to get around add /target Vij before the /cast ;P |
| 06:35.38 | Gngsk | and /targetlasttarget after |
| 06:36.33 | TecnoBrat | Hmmm, that seems ... weird |
| 06:36.42 | kaiden | why? |
| 06:39.08 | TecnoBrat | "In addition to units, [target=] can also take player names as long as the player is in your party/raid." according to cogwheel's faq, so it seems like its meant to work |
| 06:39.29 | TecnoBrat | but its spewing chatframe.lua errors, multiple per second |
| 06:39.31 | kaiden | just because cogwheel says doesn't mean that's the way blizzard saw it |
| 06:40.04 | kaiden | i'm not saying it's NOT supposed to work that way |
| 06:40.35 | kaiden | it very well may be meant to work that way, but if you can't figure the error out, or supply the error you are getting then just get around it with the /target and /targetlasttarget's |
| 06:40.55 | TecnoBrat | http://ace.pastey.net/57181 |
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| 06:41.38 | kaiden | very well could be a blizzard change, or possibly a bar mod causing it |
| 06:41.45 | sag_ich_nicht | mhm |
| 06:41.46 | sag_ich_nicht | okay |
| 06:41.54 | TecnoBrat | happens with 0 mods |
| 06:42.02 | sag_ich_nicht | downloading patch, how many bugs did make it into release and what are they? :O |
| 06:42.23 | TecnoBrat | and apparantly, macros update feedback multiple times per second, cause I'm getting it lots :P |
| 06:42.48 | kaiden | yup, blizzard change so just do it the other way |
| 06:42.53 | kaiden | it's only a few more bits of text |
| 06:43.06 | bleeter | sag_ich_nicht: crust busters in blades edge are snafu, I can say that much (as yet another mob runs away when I get it to 10%) |
| 06:45.30 | Corrodias | "Added ERR_INVITE_RESTRICTED - Informs trial accounts they can't invite high level characters into groups " -- woo hoo! |
| 06:45.44 | sag_ich_nicht | lol |
| 06:45.52 | sag_ich_nicht | * |
| 06:45.53 | sag_ich_nicht | Bug Fixes |
| 06:45.53 | sag_ich_nicht | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:45.53 | sag_ich_nicht | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:46.04 | sag_ich_nicht | I will only blieve it when i see it. |
| 06:46.08 | sag_ich_nicht | *believe |
| 06:46.21 | bleeter | guildie has reported 'success' on that one ;) |
| 06:46.36 | sag_ich_nicht | yeah well we'll see about that D: |
| 06:46.50 | bleeter | on a side note, there's a thread in the US forums somewhere about widescreen dimensions being a bit bork |
| 06:47.04 | sag_ich_nicht | WHAT |
| 06:47.24 | sag_ich_nicht | Offenderserv's Display Details |
| 06:47.24 | sag_ich_nicht | Graphics Card: |
| 06:47.24 | sag_ich_nicht | Monitor: Default |
| 06:47.24 | sag_ich_nicht | Display Resolution: 1280x1024x16bpp 42hz |
| 06:47.29 | sag_ich_nicht | no wait |
| 06:47.32 | sag_ich_nicht | that's a lie. |
| 06:47.39 | sag_ich_nicht | stupid remote desktop is confusing my script |
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| 06:47.43 | Corrodias | well, i can tell you that something's wrong with the way it's calculating how wide to make the thing in windowed mode |
| 06:47.47 | sag_ich_nicht | i have a 22" widescreen LCD, this is bad D: |
| 06:47.57 | sag_ich_nicht | oh in windowed mode |
| 06:48.06 | sag_ich_nicht | screw windowed mode, as long as it works in fullscreen |
| 06:48.06 | sag_ich_nicht | D: |
| 06:48.20 | Corrodias | no way, nobody uses widescreen. i play in a window. |
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| 06:48.41 | sag_ich_nicht | i use widescreen. |
| 06:48.49 | sag_ich_nicht | also |
| 06:48.49 | Corrodias | no |
| 06:48.49 | sag_ich_nicht | # |
| 06:48.49 | sag_ich_nicht | # Rallying Cry of the Dragonslayer: This buff will no longer give excessive critical strike rating to low-level characters. |
| 06:48.54 | sag_ich_nicht | ahahahahahahahaha |
| 06:48.57 | sag_ich_nicht | best change ever |
| 06:49.07 | sag_ich_nicht | COMPLETELY pointless. D: |
| 06:49.21 | TecnoBrat | it was giving like 40% crit to a level 10 |
| 06:49.24 | TecnoBrat | or some damn thing |
| 06:49.26 | sag_ich_nicht | i know. |
| 06:49.27 | sag_ich_nicht | so? |
| 06:49.35 | sag_ich_nicht | let the lowbies have some fun leveling :P |
| 06:50.00 | sag_ich_nicht | i mean it's not like a lot of people still kill the old lady or nef |
| 06:50.03 | Corrodias | can't let those level 10 arena players have such an advantage! |
| 06:50.17 | sag_ich_nicht | uh-hu |
| 06:50.36 | sag_ich_nicht | especially since the arena doesn't remove rallying cry of the dragonslayer, righto |
| 06:50.53 | Corrodias | and level 10 people play in the arena |
| 06:51.15 | Corrodias | /cast detect sarcasm |
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| 06:51.58 | Thunder_Child | ~lart Channel |
| 06:51.58 | purl | slams Channel against a large cement Tux |
| 06:52.04 | sag_ich_nicht | /cast Turn Undead |
| 07:02.23 | FlAWD | anybody alive? |
| 07:04.04 | Corrodias | yep |
| 07:04.19 | Corrodias | still pondering the whole pet bar thing. not sure what to do. |
| 07:04.28 | |Jelly| | i r her |
| 07:05.24 | FlAWD | do either of you know where I can find the addon "DSSetup" |
| 07:05.56 | FlAWD | or if there's something else I can use to change the default "center" of my screen to 33% away from the left side? :) |
| 07:06.52 | Corrodias | our second kara group tonight had a lot of trouble with moroes for some reason |
| 07:07.18 | FlAWD | if you get a bad makeup of adds ... it's best to leave for the soft reset IMO |
| 07:07.33 | FlAWD | like the 2 warriors, paladin, and holy priest ... that's the worst |
| 07:07.34 | Corrodias | what's a soft reset? |
| 07:08.02 | FlAWD | after 30-60 mins of nobody in the instance ... everything despawns ... to save server resources |
| 07:08.07 | FlAWD | once someone zones in they come back |
| 07:08.11 | FlAWD | different adds |
| 07:08.28 | Corrodias | there were excess people and i have been going a lot lately, so i was declined entry. anyway, it sounded like they had to take 3 or so tries at him. then they got up to the maiden and somebody's power went out, so i was called in as dps and off tank. |
| 07:08.47 | FlAWD | fun fun |
| 07:08.52 | Corrodias | seems to be just enough to make a difference; maiden goes down in one try and romulo & whatsherface in two |
| 07:09.05 | Corrodias | 30-60? |
| 07:09.12 | FlAWD | minutes |
| 07:09.23 | Corrodias | yes, but why such a range? |
| 07:09.32 | FlAWD | i don't remember exactly what it is |
| 07:11.28 | Corrodias | group 1 got through the curator, the farthest one of our groups has gotten in one night |
| 07:11.59 | Corrodias | they might get a shot at aran tomorrow |
| 07:12.05 | FlAWD | we downed mag and gruul tonight! both in one try .. i was amazed when they told me |
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| 07:12.31 | Corrodias | we tried gruul's lair once... |
| 07:12.32 | FlAWD | we spent over 2 weeks attempting mag .. finally downed him this past sunday ... and today they one shot him |
| 07:12.59 | Corrodias | but we don't really have 25 "good" people who can all show up at once. still, that's hardly an excuse for the circus of wipes that ensued. |
| 07:13.21 | FlAWD | gruuls takes repetition .... everyone's gotta be on point .. the whole time ... you have like 10 KEY people that cannot die or you will wipe ... it's tough |
| 07:13.30 | FlAWD | for maulgor of course |
| 07:13.51 | Corrodias | our mage had only 10k health, which left little margin for those 9k fireballs |
| 07:14.03 | Corrodias | *little room |
| 07:14.18 | Corrodias | GENERALLY the first thing to go wrong during the fight was him dying |
| 07:14.28 | Elkano | well, even worse here :/ although most of the people from our MC/BWL raids are still in the guild we didn't manage to get 25 people together :/ |
| 07:14.47 | Corrodias | although i did manage to pull maulgar prematurely by standing too close. i stood there for a good two seconds before he came after me, so at first i didn't even think he was coming for me. |
| 07:15.39 | FlAWD | we have a dedicated paladin to heal our mage |
| 07:15.59 | FlAWD | but he does die sometimes |
| 07:16.03 | FlAWD | and that wipes us |
| 07:16.45 | Corrodias | hmm |
| 07:17.15 | Corrodias | so does he really need to DO anything other than hold aggro? could he get away with wearing a bunch of "of stamina" gear? |
| 07:17.24 | FlAWD | lol bleeter |
| 07:17.33 | FlAWD | yea corrod |
| 07:17.47 | FlAWD | because of blast wave no melee can get near him |
| 07:18.17 | FlAWD | after we down the priest, shaman, warlock we go after high king (i'm a rogue) and all ranged is on the mage |
| 07:18.35 | FlAWD | when high king whirlwinds we back off and shoot/throw at the mage heh |
| 07:19.26 | Corrodias | on our very last attempt of the night, the mage died prematurely again, but the priest was getting low enough that i said "no way, i'm killing this motherfucker" on vent and a couple of DPS stayed alive just long enough to kill him before the king and the rest of them caught up with us. |
| 07:19.43 | Corrodias | our mage, their priest |
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| 07:42.13 | Corrodias | oh snap |
| 07:42.21 | Corrodias | i think i just tried to load my game with two action bar addons loaded |
| 07:42.24 | Corrodias | this won't end well |
| 07:47.20 | Nom- | H4X0R |
| 07:49.08 | Corrodias | maybe i just need to give it up and configure one of the action bar addons to my liking |
| 07:50.27 | Corrodias | i rather like the blizzard default bars, and aspected sets up my hunter aspects on the shapeshift bar, which doesn't really work with action bar addons |
| 07:54.44 | Arrowmaster | Corrodias: how many kara groups does your guild do? |
| 07:54.53 | Corrodias | two |
| 07:55.01 | Corrodias | we had about 23 show up today |
| 07:55.21 | Arrowmaster | ah |
| 07:55.41 | Corrodias | still putting lots of gear to use. one of our main healers picked up the hammer off the maiden. |
| 07:56.57 | Arrowmaster | just sounded weird that the furthest in a single night was curator if you were running multiple groups with a good number waiting |
| 07:58.22 | Arrowmaster | did a guild merger monday night, had 2 kara groups clear everything but netherspite and the beast boss tonight, dont remember where the 3rd group stoped |
| 07:59.08 | Nom- | :/ |
| 07:59.36 | Nom- | Out guild has 3 Kara groups... Group 1 clears everything in 1 day, Group 2 clears everything but nightbane in 1 day, group 3 clears everything up to shade in 1 day |
| 08:00.21 | Nom- | We're just about to kill off the organised kara raids i think |
| 08:00.32 | Nom- | Starting on serpentshrine/mag's lair |
| 08:00.34 | Arrowmaster | thats what we did |
| 08:00.50 | Arrowmaster | we annouced that wednesday was going to be unoffical kara night |
| 08:00.58 | Arrowmaster | but people decided to start tonight |
| 08:01.06 | Nom- | lol |
| 08:01.16 | krka | ooh... someone made a lolcode -> lua thingy |
| 08:01.17 | Corrodias | man, they were 1-shotting most things |
| 08:01.27 | Nom- | So glad they dropped the attunements for Serpentshrine/Tempest Keep |
| 08:01.30 | Corrodias | we only spend a few hours on it a night. i don't see how you can go much faster. |
| 08:01.36 | Nom- | We haven't downed Gruul yet, so nooone has attunement |
| 08:01.37 | Corrodias | without spending more time. |
| 08:01.46 | krka | http://www.casiello.net/lolcode/lolcode.lua |
| 08:02.00 | krka | Shirik|zZz: seen the lolcode message in the lua mailing list? |
| 08:02.13 | Arrowmaster | we were thinking about trying 2x gruul raids on thursday if we had the turnout and class comp |
| 08:02.33 | Corrodias | ah, bartender looks so easy to get up into a usable configuration, but refuses to show the stance bar for my hunter. |
| 08:02.52 | Arrowmaster | stance bar for hunter? |
| 08:03.10 | Corrodias | i like to have my aspects on it |
| 08:04.07 | Arrowmaster | theres an option to reuse blizzard bars |
| 08:04.29 | Arrowmaster | if youve got a mod thats putting the aspects on the blizzard stance bar maybe you should try that |
| 08:05.50 | Corrodias | hey, that's working so far. are there any detrimental effects to using that option? |
| 08:07.21 | Mr_Rabies2 | not that i'm aware of |
| 08:07.34 | Nom- | The other programmer that I was working with went home... I need her here to continue the testing we were doing :( |
| 08:07.45 | Nom- | What to do... |
| 08:08.21 | Arrowmaster | go home? |
| 08:08.54 | Nom- | Nah, I need to sit around here and *look* like i'm working |
| 08:09.02 | Nom- | for 2 hours |
| 08:09.29 | Arrowmaster | Corrodias: if you know what your doing you could also probably mod whatever your using to give you aspects on the stancebar to do it to the bartender stancebar instead |
| 08:10.24 | Arrowmaster | Nom-: got one of these? http://irssi.org/themefiles/c0ders.png |
| 08:10.52 | Nom- | No |
| 08:11.06 | Nom- | They don't lock anything down here |
| 08:11.25 | Nom- | I'm just SSHed into my Linux boxen at home, which I think use to IRC etc |
| 08:11.27 | Corrodias | eh, i'd probably be a little lost. well, i like how this is going so far, except for xperl's unit frames apparently not being secure any more. maybe this is coincidence, as i just updated that addon. |
| 08:16.06 | Corrodias | :( it seems having bartender3 enabled is causing odd tainting issues with xperl |
| 08:16.18 | krka | irc from home FTW |
| 08:19.17 | Nom- | lol wtf?? |
| 08:19.26 | Nom- | someone bought an Airbus A380 as a private jet |
| 08:20.09 | Nom- | which normally carries like 840 passengers |
| 08:20.35 | Corrodias | well, if i disregard bartender, i know of trinity and bongos as other options |
| 08:21.48 | Mr_Rabies2 | the solution is to use pitbull |
| 08:22.01 | Mr_Rabies2 | xperl killed my dog and burned my house down |
| 08:22.03 | Mr_Rabies2 | true story |
| 08:22.16 | Corrodias | pitbull? doesn't sound like action bars |
| 08:22.27 | Mr_Rabies2 | nah it's unitframes |
| 08:22.36 | Mr_Rabies2 | i'm just messin anyway |
| 08:22.42 | Mr_Rabies2 | but i do love pitbull |
| 08:23.12 | Nom- | pitbull is nice |
| 08:23.20 | Nom- | except it suffers performance problems in large raids |
| 08:23.35 | ckknight | which I want to tackle |
| 08:24.22 | Mr_Rabies2 | i just use the default raid frames, i'm a big fan of them |
| 08:24.36 | Mr_Rabies2 | then again i don't drag out but maybe one or two |
| 08:24.45 | Mr_Rabies2 | generally warriors and Priests |
| 08:24.54 | Mr_Rabies2 | for emergency heals/innervates while i'm DPSing |
| 08:26.05 | Nom- | i heal the whole raid tho :) |
| 08:26.14 | Nom- | Anyone who is in range and needs a heal will get a heal from me :) |
| 08:26.41 | Mr_Rabies2 | yeah |
| 08:26.49 | Mr_Rabies2 | i used them when i was healing in 40 mans back in the day |
| 08:27.04 | Nom- | This damn shaman keeps beating me tho |
| 08:27.04 | Mr_Rabies2 | did the job |
| 08:27.09 | Nom- | http://standen.id.au/wow/Karazhan_2007-06-18_Raid2/ :( |
| 08:27.25 | Nom- | beat me by about 50k hitpoints |
| 08:27.48 | Mr_Rabies2 | solution is to spam prayer of healing and mending |
| 08:27.56 | Nom- | <-- Paladin |
| 08:28.15 | Nom- | I'm #2 on the healing meters for the last two raids that I took stats for |
| 08:28.26 | Mr_Rabies2 | solution is to....flash of light spam the tank? |
| 08:28.31 | Nom- | I do that :p |
| 08:28.39 | Mr_Rabies2 | i mean nonstop |
| 08:28.50 | Nom- | lol overheal is pointless :) |
| 08:29.15 | Nom- | What's scary |
| 08:29.20 | Mr_Rabies2 | between pulls, while you're taking a 5 minute break so the tank can whine to his mom about the lack of food |
| 08:29.25 | Nom- | Check out Athene on that list...shadow priest |
| 08:29.39 | Mr_Rabies2 | every hitpoint lost is more meter epeen |
| 08:29.43 | Nom- | Keeping up with Proudtusk in healing, who's a Holy priest |
| 08:31.30 | Nom- | We will get nightbane this week, i'm sure of it :) |
| 08:31.49 | ZealotOnAStick | but the SP has over twice the overhealing, which is actually a bit lowish. |
| 08:32.22 | Nom- | yeah VE healing often overheals because 4/5 of the healing goes onto people who don't need it |
| 08:32.55 | Nom- | I love the buff from netherspite for healers tho |
| 08:33.04 | Nom- | 4048 flash of light, 5907 crit :D |
| 08:33.49 | Nom- | That's so scary uber :) |
| 08:34.17 | Nom- | And a shadow priest in the blue beam is so awesome too |
| 08:34.27 | Nom- | The amount of mana from VT is just nuts |
| 08:34.54 | Nom- | There you go...max tick of 403 mana |
| 08:34.57 | Mr_Rabies2 | does it count unused ticks of HoTs as overhealing |
| 08:35.06 | Nom- | Yes, I think so Mr_Rabies2 |
| 08:35.11 | Mr_Rabies2 | that's lame |
| 08:35.11 | Mr_Rabies2 | :/ |
| 08:35.18 | Mr_Rabies2 | i understand if it's like |
| 08:35.53 | Mr_Rabies2 | "Your Regrowth heals Nom- for 95." when it's supposed to hit for 300 |
| 08:36.03 | Mr_Rabies2 | but even then, not really |
| 08:36.12 | Nom- | Well, depends what the combat logs say |
| 08:36.22 | Nom- | It parses the raw combat logs |
| 08:36.32 | Nom- | It does detect overheal, so i'm guessing it has it as a resisted amount |
| 08:36.37 | Mr_Rabies2 | combat log says nothing when the hot overheals |
| 08:36.45 | Mr_Rabies2 | so i guess not |
| 08:37.02 | Mr_Rabies2 | because it doesn't tick at all if there's nothing to heal |
| 08:37.09 | Nom- | yeah it must be there somewhere |
| 08:37.20 | Nom- | becaues there's a 10% overheal on renews for the holy priest |
| 08:37.29 | Mr_Rabies2 | that's pretty lame |
| 08:37.39 | Mr_Rabies2 | also inaccurate :[ |
| 08:37.57 | Nom- | and it does still tick too |
| 08:38.01 | Nom- | just it doesn't heal for anything |
| 08:38.03 | Nom- | let me grab the log |
| 08:38.10 | Mr_Rabies2 | nope, nothing shows in the log if the HoT doesn't heal you |
| 08:39.13 | Mr_Rabies2 | and if a tick overheals it simply says says "Rejuvenation heals Nom- for 95." or something along those lines |
| 08:39.27 | Mr_Rabies2 | not 95(200 overhealing) |
| 08:40.00 | Nom- | ah ok it must be expecting to see 5 ticks for a renew or something |
| 08:40.29 | Nom- | so it can't tell the difference between a partial renew heal and a non-heal |
| 08:40.45 | Mr_Rabies2 | it shouldnt be giving any overhealing for hots |
| 08:41.03 | Nom- | no it does |
| 08:41.09 | Mr_Rabies2 | if it is, the overhealing area shouldn't be considered because it's unreliable |
| 08:41.19 | Nom- | because if it ticks twice, and doesn't tick the other 3 times, then it's overheal |
| 08:41.20 | Mr_Rabies2 | because hots are SUPPOSED to overheal |
| 08:41.36 | Nom- | *shrug* |
| 08:42.09 | Nom- | it does an average of all overheals by the looks of it |
| 08:42.15 | norganna | one could argue that hots shouldn't even really be counted as "healing done" |
| 08:42.23 | Mr_Rabies2 | and if that area isn't right, then what else isn't |
| 08:42.44 | Mr_Rabies2 | this is the reason damagemeters never should be considered for much other than a fun minigame to play |
| 08:43.01 | Mr_Rabies2 | a fun minigame that may or may not be accurate at all |
| 08:43.07 | Nom- | I'm completely against the idea of ingame damage meters |
| 08:43.27 | Nom- | As you just said |
| 08:43.41 | Nom- | It's a game that people play...they fight to win the damage meter game instead of fighting to win the raid |
| 08:43.56 | Nom- | however the web stats are a useful tool for analysing the raid once it's over |
| 08:44.09 | Mr_Rabies2 | not if they're inaccurate :/ |
| 08:44.19 | Nom- | Like you can review your hunters' stats and see they're missing X%, as ours is |
| 08:44.38 | Nom- | So this week we're working on getting some more +hit gear for the Hunter |
| 08:44.43 | Mr_Rabies2 | if there was a way to prove its accuracy perhaps |
| 08:44.59 | Mr_Rabies2 | but if it's inaccurate with overhealing, there's no telling what else it's inaccurate with |
| 08:45.02 | Nom- | Well, the overheal is broken down by spell ont he other screens |
| 08:45.26 | Nom- | It's not inaccurate, it's just they DECIDED to calculate an overheal based on the number of ticks |
| 08:45.38 | Mr_Rabies2 | because there's really no way to overheal with a hot |
| 08:45.42 | Mr_Rabies2 | it heals for what it heals for |
| 08:45.52 | Mr_Rabies2 | there's no planning it like a direct heal |
| 08:46.12 | Mr_Rabies2 | you use max rank, and keep them up at almost all times on the tank |
| 08:46.20 | Nom- | Yah, but someone who casts 2000 renews over a raid and has 90% overheal...you know something is wrong there |
| 08:46.25 | Mr_Rabies2 | and cast them on those who take collateral amage as necessary |
| 08:46.26 | Nom- | So it does have usefulness |
| 08:46.32 | Mr_Rabies2 | damage* |
| 08:47.09 | Mr_Rabies2 | the problem isn't the overheal, it's the 2000 renews |
| 08:47.22 | Nom- | what about it ? |
| 08:47.41 | Mr_Rabies2 | if they're casting 2000 renews they're likely only casting renews |
| 08:47.57 | Mr_Rabies2 | unless it's one hell of a long raid |
| 08:48.00 | Nom- | Yeah, that would have been during netherspite tanking |
| 08:48.25 | Nom- | I said before, I love that beam... :) |
| 08:48.38 | Nom- | has something like a 5400 crit flash of light |
| 08:48.43 | Mr_Rabies2 | that's 22 minutes of casting nothing but renew if you cast it every global cooldown |
| 08:48.45 | Nom- | which is nuts, in case you didn't know |
| 08:49.25 | Nom- | nah, it's 90 seconds of renews, followed by 90 seconds of nothing, followed by 90 seconds of normal helaing, |
| 08:49.45 | Nom- | You have to alternate healers on that fight |
| 08:50.09 | Nom- | Actually... I just realised that's why i'm second instead of firther |
| 08:50.11 | Nom- | first |
| 08:50.17 | Nom- | The damn shaman kept stealing my beam |
| 08:51.14 | Nom- | wtb shaman who doesn't steal my netherspite beam! |
| 08:52.39 | Nom- | that throws my bloody flash of light from 2000 crits to 5400 crits... that's a 1.5 second cast time, so i could have done a massive amount of healing once that stacks up |
| 08:52.46 | Nom- | and i've got 10k mana too, so i never would have hit 0 mana |
| 08:53.17 | Mr_Rabies2 | i was at 10k at 60, hehehe |
| 08:53.25 | Mr_Rabies2 | <3 Heart of the Wild |
| 08:53.47 | Mr_Rabies2 | except the cat portion's nigh useless in bc because none of the leather has str :( |
| 08:56.01 | Nom- | yah, but a pally with 10k mana is insane :) |
| 08:57.07 | Nom- | druid mana costs are so high for heals |
| 08:57.51 | Nom- | The only saving grace is the HOTs |
| 08:58.18 | Mr_Rabies2 | regrowth's better |
| 08:58.20 | Nom- | healing touch is about 15% higher base mana cost than pally holy light |
| 08:58.23 | Mr_Rabies2 | than it was pre patch |
| 08:58.36 | Nom- | regrowth is about the same |
| 08:58.53 | Nom- | i think 840 is max rank holy light, and max rank regrowth is 845 |
| 08:58.58 | Mr_Rabies2 | yeah |
| 08:59.15 | Mr_Rabies2 | and holy light heals for a fuckload more, and is only .5 sec slower |
| 08:59.18 | Nom- | having said that, holy light is a 2.5 sec cast, and heals for ... crap can't remember now |
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| 08:59.35 | Nom- | rank 9 hits for like 3500 |
| 08:59.43 | Nom- | sorry, rank 8 |
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| 08:59.51 | Nom- | but that's with 1600 +healing |
| 08:59.54 | Mr_Rabies2 | healing touch hits for 2700 or so base |
| 08:59.59 | Mr_Rabies2 | but it's a 3.5 sec cast |
| 09:00.14 | Mr_Rabies2 | 3.0 talented |
| 09:00.26 | Nom- | holy light base is 2196 - 2446 |
| 09:00.26 | Corrodias | well, time for me to sleep. i think i'm just going to have to configure bongos how i like i |
| 09:00.28 | Nom- | rank 11 |
| 09:00.41 | Corrodias | quick question, though. anybody know a good way for cooldown timer numbers to show up on bongos bars? |
| 09:01.03 | Nom- | Corrodias: Don't use that evil thing :0 |
| 09:01.04 | |Jelly| | OmniCC |
| 09:01.16 | Nom- | Ah well, a healer is a healer anyway :) |
| 09:01.23 | Nom- | I'm just happy I can solo heal all the heroics :) |
| 09:01.26 | Corrodias | omnicc, thanks |
| 09:01.52 | Corrodias | hey, there's nothing overtly evil about bongos. it was the only one of the three i tried that i could quickly configure into a usable form. |
| 09:02.49 | Mr_Rabies2 | i'll quickly configure your face with my fist |
| 09:03.34 | Nom- | lol Corrodias |
| 09:03.42 | |Jelly| | <3 Bartender |
| 09:03.46 | Nom- | Bartender3 is drag and drop |
| 09:03.56 | |Jelly| | I was Bongos all the way but I <3 the fade. lol |
| 09:03.56 | Nom- | right-click -> scale to resize |
| 09:04.19 | Nom- | I can set it up from scratch in about 60 seconds |
| 09:04.46 | Nom- | Last time I tried Bongos, it took 10 minutes to get something that I could play with, but I could never get it right |
| 09:04.46 | Corrodias | bartender was not playing nice with my xperl unit frames so i had to disqualify it |
| 09:05.10 | Nom- | Truth be told, Bongos was good right after 2.0 release |
| 09:05.21 | Corrodias | whose fault it is i cannot say |
| 09:05.27 | Nom- | About 2 weeks after release, I updated it, and discovered it was crap |
| 09:07.06 | Corrodias | and now i'm off to bed. x.x |
| 09:07.57 | Nom- | ah, see druid tree form is where it's at |
| 09:08.10 | Nom- | grand total of talents in that tree amounts to 30% mana cost reduction |
| 09:08.39 | Nom- | pally gets divine illumination, but we don't get any flat mana cost reduction |
| 09:09.17 | Nom- | so a pally with low heal crits is less mana efficient than a drood at the end of the day |
| 09:09.26 | Mr_Rabies2 | can't cast healing touch in tree though |
| 09:09.42 | Mr_Rabies2 | and you can't exactly spam regrowth and have it be useful |
| 09:09.51 | Nom- | no, but the other spells stacked together make a big difference |
| 09:10.06 | Mr_Rabies2 | sure, but they're very slow in acting |
| 09:10.10 | Mr_Rabies2 | even stacked together |
| 09:10.19 | Nom- | yah... you win some, you lose some :) |
| 09:10.44 | Nom- | I don't see a druid solo healing through a boss like nightbane, as i did last night :/ |
| 09:10.56 | Nom- | Didn't last very long, but I did manage it until I ran oom |
| 09:11.35 | Nom- | Actually kept the MT and DPS up for a full 5% ...until he took off into his phase 2 lol |
| 09:16.20 | Nom- | http://www.milkandcookies.com/link/63317/detail/ |
| 09:16.21 | Nom- | omg nice |
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| 10:03.49 | AnduinLothar | oh man, these chocolate chex are good.... and i thought chex couldn't get any better |
| 10:04.06 | AnduinLothar | chocolate apparently DOES go on everything cereal |
| 10:04.32 | Mr_Rabies2 | who let you out of your cage >:[ |
| 10:05.01 | Mr_Rabies2 | get back to coding, monkey! i'm a payi--i'm a customer, dammit! |
| 10:05.18 | Mr_Rabies2 | dammit i want chocolate chex now |
| 10:05.20 | Mr_Rabies2 | :[ |
| 10:12.18 | |Jelly| | Morning, Shirik |
| 10:12.29 | Shirik | bonjour |
| 10:13.11 | Shirik | what the jack not a service time |
| 10:13.14 | Shirik | oh crap it's wednesday |
| 10:13.17 | Shirik | gr |
| 10:13.23 | |Jelly| | *question mark* |
| 10:13.32 | Shirik | rf servers are down for maintenance :( |
| 10:13.41 | |Jelly| | lawl |
| 10:14.10 | Shirik | is ok it's only 2 hour maintenance, and should be up in 45m or so |
| 10:14.12 | Shirik | gives me time to study for test |
| 10:14.22 | |Jelly| | lol |
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| 11:51.22 | Legorol | morning |
| 11:51.38 | Legorol | although it's not mentioned in hte patch notes, i see that Blizzard has removed attunement requirement for SSC and TK |
| 11:51.48 | Legorol | i think this is one of the smartest move they have done recently |
| 11:51.58 | Legorol | my question is: is it intentional, or a bug? given it's not in the notes |
| 11:52.12 | Ins- | intentional, there's a blue post about it somewhere |
| 11:54.12 | Ins- | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=110637185&sid=1 there it is |
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| 12:03.57 | zenzelezz | so I'm lying here thinking "9:30, I'll get up in half an hour... and then all of a sudden it's 14:00 |
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| 12:09.43 | sag_ich_nicht | bleeter i have much work for you in the following days. :O |
| 12:18.17 | Shirik|Somewhere | zenzelezz: If I had a penny for every time I did that |
| 12:18.32 | Shirik|AFK | 082:182:29 » 12[notice from NickServ12]: Password Incorrect |
| 12:18.33 | Shirik|AFK | >.> |
| 12:18.36 | Shirik|AFK | no it's not |
| 12:25.31 | sag_ich_nicht | haha. |
| 12:27.20 | krka | Shirik|AFK: seen the lolcode for lua? |
| 12:27.31 | Shirik|AFK | seen, no; heard, yes |
| 12:27.42 | Shirik|AFK | I've seen a .h file for lolcode so I can't imagine it would be much different |
| 12:27.42 | krka | pretty cool sourcecode, but i never tried it |
| 12:27.49 | Shirik|AFK | (preprocessor directives) |
| 12:27.57 | krka | this is a full grammar, i think |
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| 12:46.43 | Shirik|AFK | cladhaire: Btw, I haven't seen what you're referring to but it may have one problem |
| 12:46.53 | cladhaire | ? |
| 12:46.54 | Shirik|AFK | re: The LOLCODE->Lua interpreter |
| 12:46.56 | cladhaire | oh |
| 12:46.58 | cladhaire | ok |
| 12:47.09 | Shirik|AFK | if it follows the specification directly, it requires newlines, which you can't do on irc :P |
| 12:47.21 | cladhaire | ah gotcha =) |
| 12:47.26 | cladhaire | i was just kidding anyway, hehe |
| 12:47.29 | Shirik|AFK | This is what's caused me the most difficulty, I had to work around that and make whitespace completely ignored, including newlines |
| 12:47.30 | Industrial | \r\n is common for irc |
| 12:47.31 | Shirik|AFK | oh :( |
| 12:48.13 | Shirik|AFK | anyway, study time |
| 12:48.16 | Shirik|AFK | take care |
| 12:48.17 | cladhaire | k k |
| 12:48.18 | cladhaire | gl |
| 12:48.28 | cladhaire | so i think i sold my car last night |
| 12:48.31 | cladhaire | the guy is gonna call me today |
| 12:48.34 | cladhaire | that would be gravy! |
| 12:50.07 | Josh_Borke | wow, lots of changes |
| 12:50.11 | Josh_Borke | aren't you leaving your job too? |
| 12:50.20 | cladhaire | yes |
| 12:50.22 | cladhaire | to write the new book |
| 12:50.28 | cladhaire | and finding a family to adopt my dog |
| 12:50.33 | Josh_Borke | are you moving? |
| 12:50.51 | cladhaire | in September, moving to England |
| 12:50.55 | Josh_Borke | wow |
| 12:50.55 | cladhaire | to start my PhD at Oxford |
| 12:51.00 | Josh_Borke | oh grats! |
| 12:51.00 | zenzelezz | new book? What about? |
| 12:51.03 | cladhaire | so i have to sell all my posessions |
| 12:51.27 | cladhaire | zenzelezz: Its a full scale programming book/API reference for WoW |
| 12:51.29 | cladhaire | zenzelezz: In theory, we don't have final approval yet |
| 12:51.38 | Josh_Borke | aw, poor doggie, you're gonna have to give him away |
| 12:51.46 | cladhaire | she's SOOO cute too |
| 12:51.54 | zenzelezz | something like "part 2" of the other book? |
| 12:51.59 | Josh_Borke | SS or it didn't happen |
| 12:52.08 | cladhaire | i'm looking, cause i KNEW you'd say that |
| 12:52.35 | cladhaire | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:53.15 | zenzelezz | that is cute; how old is she? |
| 12:53.26 | cladhaire | 5 years, give or take |
| 12:53.31 | cladhaire | found a nice family for her |
| 12:53.36 | Josh_Borke | ok, i'll concede |
| 12:53.41 | Josh_Borke | she's cute |
| 12:53.53 | cladhaire | so between that, selling my car, selling all my possessions, moving to a new country, quitting my job, working out of my home writing a new book |
| 12:53.55 | cladhaire | its relatively calm =) |
| 12:54.03 | zenzelezz | lazy |
| 12:54.06 | zenzelezz | when I was young... |
| 12:54.24 | Josh_Borke | lol |
| 12:54.31 | Josh_Borke | gief updates to addons! |
| 12:54.41 | cladhaire | Josh_Borke: incoming update to LH to support deDE clients |
| 12:54.47 | cladhaire | and have a new parsing of comments. |
| 12:54.52 | GnancyWK | zenzelezz: you did it both ways uphill? |
| 12:54.54 | Josh_Borke | dongle! |
| 12:55.07 | zenzelezz | GnancyWK: and that was just to get warmed up |
| 12:55.19 | Josh_Borke | you know, it's technically possible to do that :-) you just gotta take the stairs at your location |
| 12:56.20 | GnancyWK | yarr we wrote books, addons and moved across the world .... IN THE SNOW! |
| 12:56.31 | zenzelezz | 26 hours per day |
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| 12:58.40 | cladhaire | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:58.42 | cladhaire | that's the car |
| 12:58.50 | cladhaire | not that you are |
| 12:58.56 | cladhaire | s/are/care/ |
| 12:59.24 | Josh_Borke | wow, that's a nice car |
| 12:59.34 | cladhaire | yeah, it's done well for me. |
| 12:59.51 | cladhaire | he's getting a good deal on it |
| 12:59.59 | Josh_Borke | i'd buy it, but i'm poor |
| 13:00.05 | cladhaire | lol |
| 13:00.09 | cladhaire | OH |
| 13:00.10 | cladhaire | and this summer |
| 13:00.16 | cladhaire | my friends get married July 7 |
| 13:00.20 | Shirik|Ecole | oh |
| 13:00.21 | Shirik|Ecole | looks nice |
| 13:00.24 | cladhaire | i go to canadia for a guild gathering July 15 |
| 13:00.41 | cladhaire | I got to florida for my fraternity national conference july 23 |
| 13:00.46 | Shirik|Ecole | ooh florida |
| 13:00.51 | Shirik|Ecole | aw I won't be there during that time |
| 13:00.57 | cladhaire | i drive from syracuse to orange county, CA july 31 for Blizzcon |
| 13:00.59 | Shirik|Ecole | I'm only away for 1 month! |
| 13:01.10 | cladhaire | Shirik|AFK: boo, wont you be in jersey tho during that time? |
| 13:01.19 | Shirik|Ecole | ya |
| 13:01.23 | GnancyWK | what part of FL? |
| 13:01.27 | Shirik|Ecole | daytona beach |
| 13:01.27 | cladhaire | oh btw, am i picking you uip for blizzcon, or did you not get tickets? |
| 13:01.35 | cladhaire | i'll be in orlando |
| 13:01.41 | Shirik|Ecole | I wouldn't have been able to go actually :( so I never grabbed tickets |
| 13:01.42 | Shirik|Ecole | it sucks |
| 13:01.46 | cladhaire | ah |
| 13:01.46 | Josh_Borke | geebus cladhaire |
| 13:01.59 | cladhaire | Josh_Borke: yeah, tell me about it.. its a.. busy summer |
| 13:02.07 | Shirik|Ecole | fun summer though |
| 13:02.08 | cladhaire | dont ask how i'm going to write the book amongst all this |
| 13:02.09 | Josh_Borke | you move in september |
| 13:02.17 | cladhaire | we have 60 days to write it. |
| 13:02.18 | Shirik|Ecole | yeah cladhaire I drive to orlando all the time, not too far away |
| 13:02.19 | cladhaire | basically |
| 13:02.19 | Josh_Borke | get an auto-driving car |
| 13:02.23 | Shirik|Ecole | 30m with the way I drive ^^ |
| 13:02.36 | GnancyWK | where from Shirik|AFK ocala? |
| 13:02.46 | Shirik|Ecole | daytona beach, volusia county |
| 13:02.55 | GnancyWK | heh sorry am down south in pompano |
| 13:03.17 | Shirik|Ecole | oh |
| 13:03.19 | Shirik|Ecole | it's just an ip |
| 13:05.18 | cladhaire | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:05.26 | cladhaire | i might be teaching there for the next four years |
| 13:05.34 | Shirik|Ecole | man, this is the first time in a while... I don't know what to study... |
| 13:05.35 | Shirik|Ecole | oh cool |
| 13:05.37 | Shirik|Ecole | teaching what |
| 13:05.40 | cladhaire | Comp Sci |
| 13:05.44 | Shirik|Ecole | fun |
| 13:05.50 | cladhaire | just working as a TA for the department |
| 13:05.53 | Shirik|Ecole | teach Lua through WoW! |
| 13:05.57 | cladhaire | lol |
| 13:06.02 | cladhaire | oh i have a THIRD book i'm gonna work on during my PhD |
| 13:06.05 | Shirik|Ecole | I'm going to be a lab instructor next year actually :) |
| 13:06.06 | cladhaire | that ones just on lua |
| 13:06.10 | cladhaire | its an open source book, actually |
| 13:06.30 | Thrae | Be the first to teach a LOLCODE class ;) |
| 13:06.33 | Shirik|Ecole | rofl |
| 13:06.35 | cladhaire | heh |
| 13:06.43 | Thrae | Do your PHD on it! |
| 13:07.06 | Shirik|Ecole | the benefits of LOLCODE over other used languages |
| 13:07.27 | Thrae | I HAV PHD KTHNXGBYE |
| 13:07.41 | Shirik|Ecole | (1) program code is more readable by users than other languages like C++, meaning many users unfamiliar with programming would be able to fix problems when they arise, eliminating the need for bug trackers |
| 13:08.00 | Josh_Borke | lol |
| 13:08.01 | Shirik|Ecole | (2) It's the first language which allows mammals other than humans to code, i.e., cats |
| 13:08.33 | zenzelezz | Hairball in meow.lol:1:expected yarn |
| 13:08.34 | Thrae | Cats are notorious for the "HI I UPGRADED UR RAM" |
| 13:08.41 | Shirik|Ecole | omg zenzelezz! |
| 13:08.43 | Shirik|Ecole | That's it! |
| 13:08.53 | Shirik|Ecole | I've been trying to think up a way to make a better error message |
| 13:09.21 | Thrae | The first teacher to give a project in LOLCODE should win the best teacher of the year award. |
| 13:09.33 | cladhaire | lol |
| 13:09.40 | Shirik|Ecole | in theory I should be allowed to use LOLCODE for my senior project |
| 13:09.45 | cladhaire | i'd totally use it for a compiler class |
| 13:09.46 | Shirik|Ecole | you can use any turing-complete language |
| 13:10.10 | Thrae | If I was a programming teacher, I'd do it, as a small project. It would help relax my students for the bigger projects. |
| 13:10.20 | Shirik|Ecole | ha |
| 13:10.25 | Shirik|Ecole | immediately follow it by an impossible one? |
| 13:10.31 | cladhaire | Thrae: loosen then up before you stick it in? dirty |
| 13:10.49 | Thrae | "Great...now code a Red-Black Tree in Fortran." |
| 13:11.19 | krka | does there exist any non-trivial projects in lolcode? |
| 13:11.28 | krka | would anyone do that to themselves? |
| 13:11.36 | Shirik|Ecole | wtf kind of question is this "(1) Does your bathroom mirror show you older or younger than you actually are? Compute an order-of-magnitude estimate for the age difference, based on data you specify" |
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| 13:11.45 | cladhaire | lol |
| 13:12.33 | Thrae | Hmm, I have 10 calls in my bucket. How am I going to get this done today...stop talking on IRC would be a good start, I suppose... |
| 13:12.49 | Shirik|Ecole | IRC is addictive, no |
| 13:12.51 | Shirik|Ecole | ? |
| 13:13.00 | Thrae | Yes...damn it! |
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| 13:13.41 | seracht | Hi, I am trying to make a macro that will use the flying mount or the ground mount depending if I am in outland or azeroth. |
| 13:13.46 | Lopeppeppy_ | Yup. Drives me nuts that I can't figure out why my home firewall hates it so much. |
| 13:13.56 | Josh_Borke | seracht: check the wow ui forums, there's one there |
| 13:14.01 | seracht | ok |
| 13:14.03 | cladhaire | seracht: /use [flyable] Flying Mount Name; Other Mount Name |
| 13:14.03 | cladhaire | imo |
| 13:14.10 | seracht | damn it |
| 13:14.13 | seracht | forums maintenance |
| 13:14.28 | seracht | cladhaire: so I guess its just a simple : statement |
| 13:14.34 | Lopeppeppy_ | There's a challenge from Jelly on the regular WoW forum too. |
| 13:14.36 | cladhaire | its what i just told you it is. |
| 13:14.41 | seracht | lol |
| 13:14.43 | seracht | never mind |
| 13:14.45 | seracht | Got it, thanks |
| 13:14.49 | Shirik|Ecole | challenge? |
| 13:14.50 | cladhaire | just make sure it works =) |
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| 13:18.29 | Zeal | i was wondering if anyone could tell me what a uvar is (from the UIOptionsFrame.lua), and how register to find out when it's changed and get it's value. it doesn't count as a cvar and trying to get it's value normally results in nil : / |
| 13:18.49 | Shirik|Ecole | uvar? |
| 13:18.52 | Shirik|Ecole | what line did you see this on? |
| 13:19.05 | Zeal | in the lua file i said. |
| 13:19.15 | Shirik|Ecole | ... |
| 13:19.18 | cladhaire | yes, what line |
| 13:19.19 | Shirik|Ecole | what line? |
| 13:19.19 | cladhaire | its a big file |
| 13:19.30 | Shirik|Ecole | XML Parsing Error: no element found |
| 13:19.30 | Shirik|Ecole | Location: http://wdn.wowinterface.com/latest |
| 13:19.31 | Shirik|Ecole | =( |
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| 13:19.47 | Zeal | there are tons of them set in the first part of the file >_> |
| 13:20.01 | sag_ich_nicht | [15:13] <Lopeppeppy_> Yup. Drives me nuts that I can't figure out why my home firewall hates it so much. <--well, the first reason might be that you are using a software firewall that runs on the same system that you wish to protect |
| 13:20.03 | Zeal | to be specific though, i'm interested in line 83 |
| 13:20.18 | Zeal | SHOW_PARTY_TEXT |
| 13:20.21 | sag_ich_nicht | that's like trying to, i dunno, dillute H2O using more H2O |
| 13:20.31 | sag_ich_nicht | it does not work. |
| 13:20.41 | cladhaire | UIOptionsFrameCheckButtons["SHOW_PARTY_PETS_TEXT"] ={ index = 41, uvar = "SHOW_PARTY_PETS", default = "1"}; |
| 13:20.49 | cladhaire | i think they're just savedvariables |
| 13:20.50 | Fin | sag_ich_nicht: aw, you can't expect normal people to set up firewalls independent of their machines |
| 13:20.52 | Shirik|Ecole | based on just reading the file |
| 13:20.59 | cladhaire | and they're done at the user level, instead of the client level |
| 13:21.04 | cladhaire | i.e. video settings are a cvar, set for all users |
| 13:21.07 | sag_ich_nicht | *dilute |
| 13:21.10 | wobin | most people won't have two boxes |
| 13:21.11 | cladhaire | interface options are done per-user |
| 13:21.13 | Lopeppeppy_ | It's fun to try, sag... Sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't, ports are forwarded... best I can do without a degree. |
| 13:21.13 | Shirik|Ecole | basically, it's just variables, nothing more |
| 13:21.20 | Fin | most people don't even understand what a firewall really is, just that they have to have one |
| 13:21.27 | Fin | s/have to/should have/ |
| 13:21.28 | Shirik|Ecole | checked = getglobal(value.uvar); |
| 13:21.28 | Shirik|Ecole | etc |
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| 13:21.34 | Fin | -have |
| 13:22.00 | Zeal | dammit : / |
| 13:22.06 | Shirik|Ecole | firewalls are overrated |
| 13:22.13 | Fin | OK |
| 13:22.18 | sag_ich_nicht | [15:20] <Fin> sag_ich_nicht: aw, you can't expect normal people to set up firewalls independent of their machines <--the only thing a software firewall on a windows machine does, is add annoyances for the user |
| 13:22.24 | cladhaire | Zeal: get all that? |
| 13:22.24 | sag_ich_nicht | doesn't provide any real protection |
| 13:22.44 | cladhaire | its just a convention for them to abstract the options |
| 13:22.46 | Fin | sag_ich_nicht: I've not seen any hardware firewall on windows machines before |
| 13:22.55 | Fin | sag_ich_nicht: and they do more than just add annoyances for users |
| 13:23.16 | Zeal | i did thanks. though it's a bitch, cos i can't change it without tainting it, and i get find out when it changes to change my var : / |
| 13:23.16 | sag_ich_nicht | "hey i dropped an ICMP ECHO REQUEST so your network can be as inefficient as possible while everyone can still know that i'm here because the router didn't send an ICMP HOST UNREACHABLE" |
| 13:23.41 | Thrae | Lopeppeppy_: Just use Windows XP's default firewall for the inbound. If you want extra protection, add on Sygate Personal Firewall as an Outbound firewall. |
| 13:23.47 | Fin | that's an impression of a stupid piece of software. I know this may be hard for you to accept, but: not *every* piece of software is stupid. |
| 13:24.02 | Fin | I know, I know, kerrazy concept |
| 13:24.05 | cladhaire | Zeal: how soon do you need to respond to it changing>? |
| 13:24.10 | sag_ich_nicht | Fin: my openbsd machine that serves as my firewall isn't stupid for one ;P |
| 13:24.14 | cladhaire | Zeal: instantly, or within a reasonable amount of time |
| 13:24.15 | Shirik|Ecole | http://xkcd.com/ omg. |
| 13:24.23 | Fin | sag_ich_nicht: OK |
| 13:24.34 | sag_ich_nicht | or |
| 13:24.40 | Lopeppeppy_ | I don't have an extra firewall installed that I know, however my ISP or my S.O. may have something between me and the real world that I can't configure from my own sitting. |
| 13:24.47 | Thrae | Lopeppeppy_: Window's default firewall gives most people enough protection as-is, but of course a NAT router is still best to put inbetween the computer and the modem. |
| 13:24.49 | sag_ich_nicht | it would not be stupid had it not suffered a horrible horrible hardware death D: |
| 13:24.58 | Lopeppeppy_ | Meh. Use work computer, solve problem. |
| 13:25.09 | Zeal | not immediately, i could work round that part. It's needing to change the value to the checkbox in the options menu matches the setting for my addon : / |
| 13:25.15 | Thrae | Lopeppeppy_: Wait, does your modem have more then one ethernet port on the back of it? |
| 13:25.29 | cladhaire | Zeal: you need to _change_ the interface options value? |
| 13:25.43 | cladhaire | which one are you needing to change? |
| 13:26.01 | Fin | uvar.is.gm |
| 13:26.03 | Zeal | as not to confuse people and completely overide blizz's options yeah. |
| 13:26.17 | Lopeppeppy_ | I'm not at home to answer such questions, Thrae, sorry. It's on a shelf above my head in my home office, therefore I have no immediate awareness of what it is/is not. |
| 13:26.25 | Zeal | SHOW_PARTY_TEXT, checkbox 80 |
| 13:26.28 | Fin | uvar.player.is.invincible |
| 13:27.18 | Thrae | Lopeppeppy_: Ah, well, if it does, that means the modem is also the router and will block incoming connections until you forward the ports correctly. Or, if you have more then one computer, then you probably already have a router, which also needs to be configured. |
| 13:27.44 | Fin | earlier |
| 13:27.45 | Shirik|Ecole | Fin: If we could change those that would be awesome |
| 13:27.53 | Shirik|Ecole | especially because you can do that, but if you try to do "logout" from console |
| 13:27.58 | Shirik|Ecole | it says "You do not have permission to do thaT" |
| 13:28.02 | Fin | Shirik|Ecole: why would I want to change it? I'm a shadow priest - I *am* invicible |
| 13:28.04 | Zeal | new option they added with the patch, so updating my addon to deal with it. |
| 13:28.06 | Shirik|Ecole | rofl |
| 13:28.08 | Fin | mwahahah :P |
| 13:28.15 | Fin | etc. :) |
| 13:29.29 | sag_ich_nicht | Fin |
| 13:29.36 | sag_ich_nicht | you must be confusing something |
| 13:29.39 | Fin | <cue my class is better than your class objections> |
| 13:29.43 | Lopeppeppy_ | No router, just the cable modem that we both run off. Only one box above my head in the office. That much I know, when I think hard about it. I'll get the SO to check that the ports on the modem are forwarded, as well as the ones on my computer being open. |
| 13:29.45 | Fin | :) |
| 13:29.48 | sag_ich_nicht | it's disc priests that are invincible, not shadow priests. |
| 13:29.52 | Fin | you know what |
| 13:30.01 | Zeal | oh well, i'll see what i can do, to the point of ignoring blizz's new option : / ty |
| 13:30.01 | Shirik|Ecole | uh oh |
| 13:30.04 | Shirik|Ecole | fight fight fight! |
| 13:30.05 | Fin | I've always wanted to try disc properly :) |
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| 13:30.18 | sag_ich_nicht | Fin: well go ahead then :P |
| 13:30.29 | Fin | I don't have any gear |
| 13:30.37 | sag_ich_nicht | yeah well farm some, durhur |
| 13:30.45 | cladhaire | Scholarship #2 has been offered |
| 13:30.45 | cladhaire | O.o |
| 13:30.51 | cladhaire | this just keeps getting weirder |
| 13:30.54 | Fin | that's the problem, I have no idea about level 70 gear yet :) |
| 13:31.03 | Fin | I stopped playing a while ago and only recently got to 70 |
| 13:31.08 | Fin | just did my first Co |
| 13:31.12 | Fin | +T the other day! :) |
| 13:31.37 | Fin | I'm liking the new time stuff |
| 13:33.46 | zenzelezz | no-one said shadow priests are invincible, they're just great DPS and mana boosts or something like that |
| 13:34.04 | cladhaire | <-- shadow |
| 13:34.07 | cladhaire | i am invincible. |
| 13:34.12 | cladhaire | i soloed matheridon the other night |
| 13:34.20 | sag_ich_nicht | no, you didn't. |
| 13:34.27 | sag_ich_nicht | also, you forgot a g there. |
| 13:34.30 | cladhaire | bitch kept slapping me, but i used all five cubes and spanked his ass |
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| 13:34.47 | sag_ich_nicht | o rly |
| 13:34.51 | cladhaire | yarly |
| 13:34.52 | sag_ich_nicht | i don't habeeb it |
| 13:34.52 | Shirik|Ecole | potentially nsfw but what do I know: http://www.wellingtongrey.net/miscellanea/archive/2007-05-27--the-truth-about-wireless-devices.html |
| 13:35.14 | cladhaire | how would that be nsfw? |
| 13:35.21 | cladhaire | maybe if you SMOKE CRACK! |
| 13:35.39 | Shirik|Ecole | dunno ^^ |
| 13:35.51 | Shirik|Ecole | I think better to say nsfw than get someone fired ^^; |
| 13:35.52 | Fin | I don't smoke crack? who said I smoke crack |
| 13:35.52 | Fin | lies! |
| 13:36.10 | Shirik|Ecole | 14(0911:3411:4214) 11-› sag_ich_nicht was 4kicked by cladhaire 11(YOUR NAME IS SPELLED WRONG BISH!11) |
| 13:36.10 | Shirik|Ecole | 14(0911:3411:4214) 11-› Join: sag_ich_nicht 11(i=bitch2k@85.124.37.011) |
| 13:36.14 | Shirik|Ecole | I find the hostmask similarity amusing |
| 13:36.23 | cladhaire | :P |
| 13:36.29 | sag_ich_nicht | heh |
| 13:36.35 | TS|Skrom | hahah |
| 13:36.42 | TS|Skrom | WIFI EATS BABIES! |
| 13:36.45 | krka | good stuff Shirik|Ecole |
| 13:37.43 | TS|Skrom | btw, good morning |
| 13:38.04 | Lopeppeppy_ | Morning, TS|Skrom. |
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| 13:39.28 | Shirik|Ecole | morning |
| 13:40.56 | cladhaire | BAD MORNING |
| 13:41.12 | krka | orly |
| 13:41.12 | Fin | naughty? |
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| 13:42.56 | Fin | can anybody recommend an EU server worth migrating to? |
| 13:43.04 | TS|Skrom | |Jelly| I can't find that thread about the draenei shaman who didn't like the look... is it bahleeted? |
| 13:43.05 | Fin | (just one character) |
| 13:43.31 | Lopeppeppy_ | It probably was, TS|Skrom, those very often are reported and deleted. |
| 13:44.08 | TS|Skrom | ahh because it was asking for a way to modify mpq's or whatever? |
| 13:44.22 | TS|Skrom | shame... it was comedy imo ;-) |
| 13:44.52 | krka | that's disturbing yet exciting fin |
| 13:44.58 | sag_ich_nicht | [15:42] <Fin> can anybody recommend an EU server worth migrating to? <--depends on language an faction :P |
| 13:45.06 | Lopeppeppy_ | I love 'em. I love to end those threads with my standard cut and paste... great laughs. |
| 13:45.07 | sag_ich_nicht | *and |
| 13:45.12 | Fin | maybe I don't have to be female, then |
| 13:45.21 | Fin | sag_ich_nicht: English, Alliance |
| 13:45.30 | sag_ich_nicht | heh |
| 13:45.33 | sag_ich_nicht | i dunno, lol .O |
| 13:45.35 | sag_ich_nicht | *:O |
| 13:45.40 | TS|Skrom | all my griping two days ago about bad groups |
| 13:46.12 | zenzelezz | I play on EU-Silvermoon, but I'm not sure if it's worth transferring to, pretty populated as is |
| 13:46.21 | TS|Skrom | I got invited back to BRD with the warrior I'd kinda "trained" on how to instance tank, the warlock that was with us the first time we played together and a druid and shammy that were pretty cool last night |
| 13:46.38 | TS|Skrom | And with a level range of 54-57 we actually cleared all of BRD |
| 13:46.43 | TS|Skrom | I was freakin' impressed |
| 13:47.14 | zenzelezz | :-) |
| 13:47.24 | zenzelezz | it can be done, all it takes is some skill |
| 13:47.39 | Lopeppeppy_ | Nice work, TS|Skrom. When it works well, it works very well. When it doesn't..... murder ensues. |
| 13:47.45 | TS|Skrom | I was very very impressed with the warrior |
| 13:48.01 | TS|Skrom | the first time through he could hardly keep aggro on two. Last night he kept 5 mobs glued to him constantly |
| 13:49.58 | zenzelezz | "Your Hunter's Mark failed. Mana Wraith is immune." |
| 13:50.10 | Shirik|Ecole | yeah |
| 13:50.14 | Shirik|Ecole | they're immune to arcane |
| 13:50.20 | Shirik|Ecole | hunter's mark is considered arcane |
| 13:50.38 | Shirik|Ecole | you can tell by the "unable to cast" sound each spell makes |
| 13:50.47 | Shirik|Ecole | each school of magic (or skill for that matter) has a distinct sound |
| 13:51.30 | zenzelezz | you play a hunter with the "AP from int", don't you? |
| 13:51.36 | Shirik|Ecole | yup |
| 13:51.49 | zenzelezz | how much int do you need for it to be worth it? |
| 13:52.01 | Shirik|Ecole | hm |
| 13:52.05 | Shirik|Ecole | I guess that's really dependent upon your other stats |
| 13:53.07 | Shirik|Ecole | I would push for about 300 |
| 13:53.14 | Shirik|Ecole | at least |
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| 13:53.36 | zenzelezz | I'm considering trying it when I hit 70, in conjunction with the mana aspect it seems interesting |
| 13:53.37 | Shirik|Ecole | but recall that there are talents that increase your intellect |
| 13:53.38 | TS|Skrom | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:53.42 | TS|Skrom | what talent is that now? |
| 13:53.42 | Shirik|Ecole | yup |
| 13:53.46 | Shirik|Ecole | combat experience? |
| 13:53.47 | Shirik|Ecole | I think |
| 13:53.57 | TS|Skrom | that just raises your int 3% per rank |
| 13:54.02 | TS|Skrom | doesn't give you AP |
| 13:54.06 | TS|Skrom | according to wowhead anyway |
| 13:54.07 | zenzelezz | Careful Aim |
| 13:54.09 | Shirik|Ecole | no |
| 13:54.10 | Shirik|Ecole | careful aim |
| 13:54.10 | Shirik|Ecole | ya |
| 13:54.21 | TS|Skrom | ahha |
| 13:54.40 | TS|Skrom | neat |
| 13:55.02 | Shirik|Ecole | you can increase your int by 15%, increasing your ap by (0.5)(0.15) |
| 13:55.11 | Shirik|Ecole | plus whatever your intellect gives you |
| 13:55.27 | zenzelezz | you can tell which trackings I don't use often... I'm sitting here fighting elementals, wondering why they don't show up on my minimap, and I've chosen Track Giants |
| 13:55.33 | Shirik|Ecole | lol |
| 13:55.37 | TS|Skrom | hehe |
| 13:56.19 | TS|Skrom | man I shoulda stayed home taday |
| 13:56.38 | TS|Skrom | one bad thing about a full brd clear is it takes forever XD was up til 3 last night, alarm goes off at 6 |
| 13:57.05 | Lopeppeppy_ | Ouch. |
| 13:57.25 | zenzelezz | hehe |
| 13:57.30 | TS|Skrom | ah well best to save those vacation days :P |
| 13:57.33 | Lopeppeppy_ | I have an hour work commute, I HAVE to get at least 5 hours of sleep to hack that. |
| 13:57.45 | TS|Skrom | lol same here, usually an hour |
| 13:57.45 | zenzelezz | apart from in bad group I really do love BRD though; great atmosphere |
| 13:57.48 | TS|Skrom | today was about 45 mins |
| 13:58.20 | sag_ich_nicht | BRD is fun if you're 70. |
| 13:58.30 | Lopeppeppy_ | So is Blood Furnace. |
| 13:58.33 | sag_ich_nicht | you can avoid nearly every single mob pack |
| 14:01.03 | Lopeppeppy_ | But... the fun lies in shredding them! |
| 14:01.14 | Lopeppeppy_ | Rogue tanking a fire boss without FR gear! |
| 14:01.29 | TS|Skrom | lawl... is the armory down or do I just not have the right url |
| 14:01.33 | Shirik|Ecole | it is |
| 14:01.38 | TS|Skrom | okay hehe |
| 14:02.41 | Lopeppeppy_ | Armory has been borked since yesterday. |
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| 14:06.41 | foxlit | Armory, er, works :) |
| 14:06.48 | foxlit | Sort of, kind of, not really, but kind of. |
| 14:07.23 | Lopeppeppy_ | I might sorta need to dump my cookies and take psychotropic drugs to view it then. :) |
| 14:16.10 | Corrodias | "This forum is currently undergoing maintenance, please check back at a later time. " poo |
| 14:16.40 | Shirik|Ecole | bleh, I can't study... I can't think of anything to study |
| 14:16.46 | Shirik|Ecole | going back home for a bit :P |
| 14:16.48 | Shirik|Ecole | ttyl |
| 14:18.38 | ScytheBlade1 | Noooo, the armory is down :( |
| 14:21.04 | ScytheBlade1 | Heh |
| 14:21.13 | ScytheBlade1 | I should read up all of five or six lines before I spout off |
| 14:23.18 | foxlit | LUL WHUT IS WOWBLING? |
| 14:23.20 | Corrodias | time to leave for work. |
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| 14:47.44 | zenzelezz | why can't I call my pet Jennifer |
| 14:48.46 | zenzelezz | for some reason the server considers it an invalid name |
| 14:49.01 | TS|Skrom | try jenny? |
| 14:49.13 | zenzelezz | just went with Veronica |
| 14:49.21 | TS|Skrom | shame |
| 14:49.32 | TS|Skrom | you coulda had a macro that sent pet and said "I've got your number!" |
| 14:49.35 | zenzelezz | it had no objections about that one, which puzzles me as to why it didn't accept the first one |
| 14:50.43 | Lopeppeppy_ | Jennifer is a great name. *snorts* Dumb server. |
| 14:50.56 | zenzelezz | agreed |
| 14:51.20 | Lopeppeppy_ | Maybe there are too many pet Jennifer's out there? *shrug* A re-use issue? |
| 14:51.47 | zenzelezz | didn't think pet names were limited in that way |
| 14:55.34 | Lopeppeppy_ | I dunno. Just a guess from Peppy Randomness Center. |
| 14:55.48 | zenzelezz | :) |
| 14:58.32 | TS|Skrom | lol there's at least 8,675,309 Jenny's in existance already I guarantee |
| 14:59.23 | zenzelezz | I used to call my pets Redsel, but it doesn't sound right on a female pet |
| 15:00.06 | TS|Skrom | okay I understand that tommy twotone is a bit old fashioned for this crowd, but come on! |
| 15:00.26 | Lopeppeppy_ | TS|Skrom, I am painfully aware of the song. *grin* |
| 15:00.46 | TS|Skrom | lol |
| 15:01.00 | Lopeppeppy_ | zenzelezz, add an "a" or an "e" and you've got a feminine form. Redsela, Redsele... etc. |
| 15:01.02 | GnancyWK | I saw a boar named RoscoPeko |
| 15:01.07 | TS|Skrom | http://artists.letssingit.com/tommy-tutone-8675309-jenny-vcs7dgp |
| 15:01.21 | GnancyWK | there is a reference for you |
| 15:01.34 | zenzelezz | Lopeppeppy: "redsel" is actually a word in Norwegian, can't just add to it :-/ |
| 15:02.47 | zenzelezz | see, my hunter's name is Frykt, and "frykt" and "redsel" both generally mean "fear", although they're used slightly differently |
| 15:03.11 | Lopeppeppy_ | Ah well... was a good try zenzelezz. |
| 15:03.24 | zenzelezz | I just suck with names |
| 15:03.47 | TS|Skrom | i woudln't say that, veronica is good |
| 15:03.54 | TS|Skrom | just need a plainstrider named betty now |
| 15:04.01 | Lopeppeppy_ | There's an awesome Elvis Costello song for Veronica. |
| 15:04.01 | zenzelezz | but I didn't exactly invent that name |
| 15:04.21 | zenzelezz | actually stole it from a girl in my class back in high school o_O |
| 15:05.14 | Lopeppeppy_ | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z8XVijFdyug |
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| 15:09.56 | foxlit | Do you get UNIT_SPELLCAST_SUCCEEDED for instant spells? |
| 15:11.19 | TS|Skrom | Time to delve into the wonderful world of SendAddonMessage |
| 15:12.02 | nevcairiel | foxlit: yes |
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| 15:16.14 | TS|Skrom | er... how do you say: if (variable == integer) |
| 15:16.22 | TS|Skrom | or something similar? |
| 15:17.09 | TS|Skrom | if (variable == "%d+") |
| 15:17.10 | TS|Skrom | ? |
| 15:21.35 | pastamancer | do you mean: if (type(variable) == "number") ? |
| 15:21.45 | TS|Skrom | yep |
| 15:21.54 | TS|Skrom | is that the syntax? |
| 15:22.07 | TS|Skrom | because I didn't think lua had typed variables |
| 15:22.25 | TS|Skrom | oops I meant to say "i didn't think LUA had typed variables" |
| 15:22.26 | krka | TS|Skrom: Lua is not an acronym. |
| 15:22.26 | pastamancer | dynamic typing |
| 15:22.40 | pastamancer | and yes, that's the syntax |
| 15:23.05 | TS|Skrom | cool, thanks |
| 15:23.41 | pastamancer | an of course: 4 != "4" |
| 15:23.58 | pastamancer | s/!=/~=/ |
| 15:24.06 | TS|Skrom | hehe yeah I've got ["1"] =! [1] taped to my monitor |
| 15:25.00 | GnancyWK | LanguageUnderAddons? |
| 15:25.03 | GnancyWK | hehe |
| 15:26.30 | Lopeppeppy_ | Look Under... nevermind. |
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| 15:34.00 | Valaron|Work | Morning |
| 15:36.33 | zenzelezz | heya |
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| 15:38.44 | TS|Skrom | morning |
| 15:40.26 | foxlit | Does sending a message over 255 chars over SAM disconnect client? |
| 15:40.37 | Fin | I so prefer ~= to != |
| 15:40.46 | Fin | I wish more languages used ~= |
| 15:40.48 | foxlit | ~= == approximately equal! |
| 15:40.55 | Fin | that's =~ isn't it? |
| 15:41.06 | foxlit | Who knows :) |
| 15:41.13 | foxlit | It's actually got a special char somewhere |
| 15:41.44 | Josh_Borke | the ~ is supposed to be above the = |
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| 15:42.49 | zenzelezz | the way I learned it (ages ago) it was = except both lines were wavey ( ~ ) |
| 15:43.26 | foxlit | local variables can only be referenced if they're upvalues? |
| 15:43.43 | foxlit | local function a() b(); end local function b() print("stuff"); end |
| 15:43.49 | foxlit | would that work? |
| 15:43.57 | Josh_Borke | won't work |
| 15:44.04 | Josh_Borke | b must be defined before a references it |
| 15:44.17 | Josh_Borke | local b; local function a() b() end; b = function() print("stuff") end |
| 15:46.01 | Fin | zenzelezz: it took me three times to read through that to figure out what you meant, and what Josh_Borke meant by "above", but: yeah I learned it that way too :) |
| 15:46.24 | Josh_Borke | it's the only way it'll work |
| 15:47.01 | zenzelezz | I r Norwegian, I suck at explaining maths and food in English |
| 15:47.39 | Fin | I'm English and I'd find it difficult to explain too (but for different reasons) |
| 15:47.49 | Fin | (well obviously it can't be the same reason) |
| 15:48.11 | zenzelezz | hehe |
| 15:48.24 | mikma | I'm Finnish and I suck |
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| 15:55.33 | pastamancer | you wacky scandanavians! |
| 15:56.41 | Zicon | What did we do this time? |
| 15:57.42 | pastamancer | oh, just reading Fin and zenzelezz's conversation |
| 15:59.25 | Zeal | can you use |c & |r in whispers? :S |
| 15:59.47 | foxlit | No. |
| 16:00.00 | foxlit | |c hides text after it, |r diconnects |
| 16:00.05 | Zeal | kk, that's something i just learnt the hard way then :P |
| 16:00.07 | foxlit | (Of course ||c ||r pass fine) |
| 16:00.57 | Zeal | but won't set colour? :p |
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| 16:01.23 | Cide | it would if it didn't dc you |
| 16:01.42 | Zeal | lol, kk. ty |
| 16:02.17 | zenzelezz | why do all the hunter quest rewards suddenly stop having +sta :-| |
| 16:02.43 | Fin | you can use it in |[cr] /script though, right? |
| 16:02.56 | Fin | actually it would make sense if you couldn't |
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| 16:05.12 | Lopeppeppy_ | zenzelezz.... keeps hunters from going all melee on ya? Dunno. |
| 16:05.43 | pastamancer | nothing will ever keep certain hunters from going all melee >< |
| 16:07.09 | zenzelezz | it's just annoying when I'm at 25% health and my pet is at 80% |
| 16:08.13 | Cide | cut the suck, imo. |
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| 16:09.37 | Lopeppeppy_ | Pets are uber. |
| 16:09.49 | Lopeppeppy_ | Careful, Kaydeethree, they sometimes bite back. |
| 16:10.11 | Kaydeethree | if you could consider SBTALOL biting back, ya, I guess |
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| 16:24.00 | Lopeppeppy_ | A bit of chocolate sometimes makes it better, I find. |
| 16:25.10 | Valaron|Work | I'm not much of a chocolate fan. I like salt. |
| 16:25.30 | Valaron|Work | I can go for months without ever touching sweets. |
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| 16:25.57 | Shirik|Ecole | mode Shirik|Ecole +w |
| 16:26.14 | Cide | faillllll |
| 16:26.16 | Shirik|Ecole | =( |
| 16:26.25 | Shirik|Ecole | windows popping up while you type commands >.> |
| 16:26.33 | Shirik|Ecole | the slash goes in one window the command in the other >.> |
| 16:26.45 | Cide | yep :P I've had it happen too |
| 16:26.52 | Cide | that's why you don't type them in manually! |
| 16:27.21 | Shirik|Ecole | so... my professor is officially evil |
| 16:27.29 | Shirik|Ecole | He took one of the homework problems and put it on the test |
| 16:27.40 | Shirik|Ecole | A multiple choice test, and I know the answer exactly, but I do the work anyway |
| 16:27.52 | Shirik|Ecole | I must have done the question 4 times saying to myself "Why can't I get this answer right!" |
| 16:28.09 | Shirik|Ecole | I finally just put down the answer I kept getting (instead of what I got on the homework). After the test, I look at the book and see that he changed one of the numbers |
| 16:28.19 | Cide | haha |
| 16:28.31 | Cide | good thing you did it then |
| 16:28.35 | Shirik|Ecole | it's a multiple choice test and he put the homework answer on the test just to mock me >.> |
| 16:28.41 | Shirik|Ecole | I'm curious how many people put that down ^^ |
| 16:28.50 | Kaydeethree | hate when professors do that |
| 16:29.19 | Cide | http://comics.com/comics/workingdaze/archive/images/workingdaze2004073470620.jpg |
| 16:29.37 | Shirik|Ecole | ha |
| 16:30.10 | cladhaire | hehe |
| 16:31.22 | Shirik|Ecole | omg! |
| 16:31.26 | Shirik|Ecole | He's eating lunch here! |
| 16:31.46 | cladhaire | haha |
| 16:31.49 | cladhaire | to torment you |
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| 16:32.35 | Shirik|Ecole | rofl, he says quite a few peopleput the homework answer |
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| 16:33.43 | Lopeppeppy_ | That was a question to make sure you were reading the questions, Shirik|Ecole. |
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| 16:34.05 | Shirik|Ecole | Do you have any idea how much time I wasted on that question?! |
| 16:34.24 | Lopeppeppy_ | My English teacher did one of those legendary exams once, where the last question was "Now that you've read the exam, make sure your name is on the top and turn in the blank form." Any idea how many people failed *that* test? |
| 16:34.31 | Shirik|Ecole | lol |
| 16:35.07 | Shirik|Ecole | I've only ever heard of things like that |
| 16:35.09 | Shirik|Ecole | never had it happen to me |
| 16:36.08 | Kaydeethree | happened to me once... one of the three people that passed that test |
| 16:36.28 | Shirik|Ecole | I'd fail it |
| 16:36.30 | Shirik|Ecole | I never read instructions |
| 16:36.37 | Lopeppeppy_ | Taught us awful quickly to understand something before just plowing through it. |
| 16:37.00 | Kaydeethree | heh. finally put up the forum maint. notification |
| 16:37.43 | Shirik|Ecole | forums up yet? |
| 16:37.44 | Shirik|Ecole | bah |
| 16:37.45 | Shirik|Ecole | nm |
| 16:38.43 | Shirik|Ecole | not really, but I was feeling left out |
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| 16:41.14 | Antiarc|Work | cladhaire: I've levelled my hunter from 23 to 31 just killing things to test ThreatLib. |
| 16:41.21 | Antiarc|Work | Mindless is a really good way to put it :) |
| 16:41.31 | cladhaire | lol |
| 16:41.44 | Antiarc|Work | Pull a mob, shoot it a couple times to test something, tab out to code and let autoshot finish it off. |
| 16:41.46 | cladhaire | i'm eating lunch, taking calls, etc. |
| 16:41.56 | [Ammo] | hunters are good for ttesting stuff |
| 16:42.08 | [Ammo] | I spent 1500 bullets and 2 levels testing violatio |
| 16:42.15 | [Ammo] | level 8 -> 10 |
| 16:42.26 | zenzelezz | violatio? |
| 16:43.00 | zenzelezz | and how can you spend bullets below level 10? I had to resort to melee :-| |
| 16:43.31 | Lopeppeppy_ | Violation, zenzelezz. I almost remember what it does, but then again, I haven't had lunch so I'm brain-damaged. |
| 16:43.33 | TS|Skrom | mmm I love the smell of hyperbole in the morning ;P |
| 16:43.57 | Lopeppeppy_ | Huh. All I can smell is cumin, TS|Skrom. Similar, gets up your nose and makes you sneeze? |
| 16:45.53 | [Ammo] | violation is a damagemeter |
| 16:46.12 | [Ammo] | and not having to move just turning and shooting gogo |
| 16:46.31 | [Ammo] | send in the boar |
| 16:46.39 | [Ammo] | and see if 2 bars appear |
| 16:46.40 | TS|Skrom | what boar at level 8? |
| 16:46.41 | zenzelezz | except you don't get a pet until level 10 |
| 16:46.46 | TS|Skrom | ;-) |
| 16:46.49 | [Ammo] | level 10 atm |
| 16:46.50 | pastamancer | hax |
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| 16:46.58 | [Ammo] | but I started by shooting and meleeing at 8 |
| 16:47.04 | [Ammo] | then tamed the first thing I shot at 10 |
| 16:47.06 | [Ammo] | :) |
| 16:47.14 | [Ammo] | which happened to be boar |
| 16:47.23 | zenzelezz | you shouldn't shoot things you're taming, it's bad mojo |
| 16:47.32 | [Ammo] | it weakens them |
| 16:47.36 | TS|Skrom | yeah you'll have the ASPCA all over yo ass |
| 16:47.45 | [Ammo] | you feed women booze before making your move too |
| 16:47.52 | [Ammo] | same in games :p |
| 16:47.55 | pastamancer | if you shoot them, you don't have to tell them twice |
| 16:48.09 | pastamancer | boars, that is |
| 16:48.13 | [Ammo] | pastamancer: depends on your aim :) |
| 16:48.58 | Lopeppeppy_ | Ammo: Depends on *yours* ;) |
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| 17:09.10 | Mike-N-Go | Awkward, the ELU for WoW is html code, free hotel WiFi FTL. |
| 17:10.33 | Mike-N-Go | I guess that be the splash page. |
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| 17:27.07 | TS|Skrom | whoever is approving addons : thanks :P |
| 17:28.23 | deltron | ammoo eh? |
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| 17:28.52 | seracht_ | hi |
| 17:28.56 | seracht_ | do we have any theorycrafters here |
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| 17:29.16 | Cide- | could you be a bit more implicit? I feel that your question was way too specific for my liking |
| 17:29.54 | Cide- | in other words, without sarcasm: care to be a bit more specific? |
| 17:29.54 | seracht_ | lol |
| 17:30.03 | seracht_ | I am trying to get spirit to mp5 for priests |
| 17:30.12 | Cide- | depends on your casting style |
| 17:30.13 | seracht_ | getting conflicting numbers |
| 17:30.13 | TS|Skrom | check wowwiki |
| 17:30.18 | seracht_ | TS|Skrom: those seem to be old |
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| 17:30.20 | seracht_ | pre TBC |
| 17:30.23 | TS|Skrom | ahh |
| 17:30.26 | seracht_ | that's what someone told me at least |
| 17:30.28 | Cide- | depends entirely on your casting style and talents |
| 17:30.30 | seracht_ | it was s/4 + 12.5 |
| 17:30.31 | Mike-N-Go | Why is it 'mp5'? |
| 17:30.37 | seracht_ | Cide-: ya I know |
| 17:30.39 | Cide- | mana per 5 (seconds) |
| 17:30.47 | seracht_ | I am just debating between 12spi or 7 manage per 5 |
| 17:30.49 | seracht_ | *mana per 5 |
| 17:30.53 | Cide- | um |
| 17:30.56 | seracht_ | you might say th 7 is better |
| 17:30.58 | seracht_ | but |
| 17:30.58 | Cide- | 7 mana per 5 >>> 12 spirit |
| 17:31.03 | seracht_ | no way |
| 17:31.04 | seracht_ | see |
| 17:31.06 | seracht_ | if my calcs are correct |
| 17:31.11 | Cide- | >>> 7/5, 12/4 |
| 17:31.11 | Cide- | Cide-: 1.4, 3 |
| 17:31.18 | Cide- | err |
| 17:31.20 | Cide- | >>> 7/5, 12/8 |
| 17:31.21 | Cide- | Cide-: 1.4, 1.5 |
| 17:31.21 | seracht_ | 12 spirit = 12/4 + 17 = 20 mana per 2 seconds.....thats equal to 50 mana/5 seconds (while not casting) |
| 17:31.27 | Cide- | no no no |
| 17:31.41 | deltron | you want mp/5 because that works during casting |
| 17:31.43 | Cide- | you only get the 12.5 bonus once |
| 17:31.43 | seracht_ | so therefore, while casting you have 15% regen |
| 17:31.51 | seracht_ | once? |
| 17:31.53 | sag_ich_nicht | mhm |
| 17:31.54 | sag_ich_nicht | lol |
| 17:31.55 | Cide- | 12 spirit = 3 mana per 2 seconds |
| 17:32.05 | Mike-N-Go | Don't you want both spirit and mp5, more mp5 though? |
| 17:32.05 | sag_ich_nicht | my raid startet calling me Führer D: |
| 17:32.12 | Cide- | your mana per tick is (total spirit)/4 + 12.5 |
| 17:32.22 | Cide- | your mana per tick from spirit* |
| 17:32.31 | sag_ich_nicht | s/startet/started |
| 17:32.32 | Cide- | so one spirit only gives you 0.25 mana per 2 seconds |
| 17:32.33 | seracht_ | right, when you are comparing 2 items though |
| 17:32.41 | seracht_ | you can just treat it individually |
| 17:32.44 | Cide- | what are you getting the 17 from then? |
| 17:32.46 | sag_ich_nicht | erm, forgot the trailing slash D: |
| 17:32.57 | seracht_ | Cide-: thats the confusion |
| 17:33.04 | seracht_ | wowwiki says formula is s/4 + 12.5 |
| 17:33.11 | seracht_ | people in wcradio are saying thats pre TBC |
| 17:33.17 | seracht_ | it has changed to s/4 + 17 |
| 17:33.22 | seracht_ | and I cannot access forums due to maintenance |
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| 17:33.58 | TS|Skrom | that's not cide's point I don't think: when comparing two items you have to leave off the 12.5 since you get it with both the mana/5 and the spirit gear. |
| 17:34.01 | Mike-N-Go | How do you calculate in Spirt Tap? |
| 17:34.15 | Cide | you can't add the 12.5 |
| 17:34.17 | Cide | look at it this way |
| 17:34.21 | Cide | forget the 12.5 entirely |
| 17:34.23 | seracht_ | um what |
| 17:34.27 | Cide | and consider it your 'base' mana/tick |
| 17:34.35 | Cide | you get 12.5 mana / 2 seconds (per tick) with 0 spirit |
| 17:34.43 | seracht_ | sure |
| 17:34.45 | Cide | every 4 spirit after that you get another 1 mana / 2 seconds (per tick) |
| 17:34.56 | Cide | as such, when comparing two pieces of gear, you can't take that into consideration |
| 17:35.12 | seracht_ | hmm |
| 17:35.47 | seracht_ | hmm well |
| 17:35.53 | seracht_ | say your spirit is 50, mp5 is 50 |
| 17:36.02 | seracht_ | with the +7 mp5 you get 50 spi, 57 mp5 |
| 17:36.14 | Cide | yes? |
| 17:36.18 | seracht_ | sec |
| 17:36.26 | seracht_ | total from that is 50/4 = 12.5 + 12.5 = 25 * 2.5 = 67.5 + 57 |
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| 17:36.31 | seracht_ | thats approx 130 or so |
| 17:36.42 | Cide | wait |
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| 17:36.47 | Cide | alright, ok |
| 17:36.50 | seracht_ | thats per mp5 |
| 17:36.56 | Cide | keep going |
| 17:36.59 | seracht_ | so 57 spirit with the other item |
| 17:37.10 | Cide | 62 spirit* |
| 17:37.15 | seracht_ | wait yes |
| 17:37.27 | seracht_ | 120 hmm |
| 17:37.28 | seracht_ | lol |
| 17:37.30 | seracht_ | -_- |
| 17:37.37 | seracht_ | 4.5 less |
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| 17:37.43 | seracht_ | guess I know what to get |
| 17:37.48 | Cide | it's not only that |
| 17:38.13 | Cide | you're forgetting that spirit only works outside of the five second rule (or rather, 85% of it if you have meditation) |
| 17:38.16 | Cide | whereas mp5 works all the time |
| 17:38.28 | Cide | so the "correct" way to calculate spirit to mp5 would be |
| 17:38.53 | seracht_ | while casting with the 7mp5 I will have (67.5 * 0.15) + 57 == 67.125 and while casting with th 12 spi I will have60.5 |
| 17:39.52 | Cide | spirit/4 * 0.15 * fsrtime + spirit/4 * (1-fsrtime) |
| 17:40.07 | seracht_ | you cannot effectivelly measure fsrtime though |
| 17:40.12 | Cide | it's ~50% |
| 17:40.15 | seracht_ | really? |
| 17:40.21 | seracht_ | doesn't it depend |
| 17:40.27 | Cide | yes, it does |
| 17:40.29 | seracht_ | on group layout |
| 17:40.39 | Cide | it depends on casting style, encounter, etc |
| 17:40.42 | seracht_ | less druids means more HoTs on priests |
| 17:40.49 | Cide | that's negligible |
| 17:40.56 | seracht_ | it is? |
| 17:40.57 | Cide | but so is encounter and casting style usually |
| 17:41.01 | Cide | so assume it's 50% |
| 17:41.04 | seracht_ | hmm |
| 17:41.20 | Cide | >>> (12/4 * 0.15 * 0.5 + 12/4*0.85)*2.5 |
| 17:41.20 | Cide | Cide: 6.9375 |
| 17:41.21 | seracht_ | right |
| 17:41.37 | seracht_ | damn it |
| 17:41.40 | seracht_ | wish I used that |
| 17:41.44 | seracht_ | instead of openning up calculator |
| 17:41.49 | Cide | err |
| 17:41.59 | Cide | >>> (12/4 * 0.15 * 0.5 + 12/4*0.5)*2.5 |
| 17:41.59 | Cide | Cide: 4.3125 |
| 17:42.01 | Cide | there |
| 17:42.22 | seracht_ | right |
| 17:42.27 | seracht_ | 7>4 yay |
| 17:43.02 | seracht_ | thanks |
| 17:43.12 | |Jelly| | Did I miss the memo? Is Armory down with the forums? |
| 17:43.19 | seracht_ | yes |
| 17:43.25 | N|Tivoli | it's probably all being reset for s2 |
| 17:43.26 | seracht_ | you didn't miss it |
| 17:43.26 | |Jelly| | weak |
| 17:43.27 | seracht_ | but its down |
| 17:43.33 | seracht_ | http://www.wow-loot.com/gearguide/print.php?v=29175z29274z29779z24264z21875z27875z21874z28304z29183z21873z27525z31691z28259z29169 |
| 17:43.38 | seracht_ | Cide see anything I can change in there |
| 17:43.45 | seracht_ | pre-raiding probably post kara as well |
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| 17:45.54 | Cide | I prefer http://www.wowhead.com/?item=27885 over Rejuvenating Scepter but that might be a matter of preference |
| 17:46.28 | seracht_ | will try to get it |
| 17:46.32 | Cide | looks pretty good otherwise |
| 17:46.33 | seracht_ | running SL today |
| 17:46.55 | seracht_ | I will probably replace the neck with the pvp one |
| 17:47.19 | Cide | did you say post-kara btw? |
| 17:47.28 | seracht_ | http://www.wowhead.com/?item=33068 |
| 17:47.35 | Cide | there are a couple of karazhan drops that are nice |
| 17:47.36 | seracht_ | um well the primal mooncloth will be post kara |
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| 17:49.19 | seracht_ | but ya |
| 17:49.24 | seracht_ | I am currently sitting at 866 healing |
| 17:49.25 | seracht_ | 340 spi |
| 17:49.32 | seracht_ | 20 or so mp3 |
| 17:49.34 | seracht_ | mp5 |
| 17:49.36 | seracht_ | just dinged 70 |
| 17:49.51 | seracht_ | hoping I can get into kara, being the only Fear ward and one of our MTs is a druid |
| 17:50.00 | seracht_ | stuck on Nightbane :( |
| 17:50.20 | deltron | -_- alliance |
| 17:50.26 | seracht_ | lol |
| 17:50.30 | deltron | you need a shaman or two |
| 17:50.31 | seracht_ | normally the warriors stance it as well |
| 17:50.40 | seracht_ | but warriors dont come on for kara |
| 17:50.42 | seracht_ | damn punks |
| 17:50.56 | zenzelezz | why not, they have everything from there? |
| 17:51.01 | seracht_ | dunno zenzelezz |
| 17:52.04 | Cide | nightbane is the only fight that is a lot easier with a warrior really |
| 17:52.13 | seracht_ | or a fear ward |
| 17:52.14 | seracht_ | lol |
| 17:52.24 | seracht_ | so I am trying really hard to key up by tomorrow |
| 17:52.25 | Cide | never had that luxury myself, but I suppose :) |
| 17:52.26 | deltron | meh @ fear ward :P |
| 17:52.37 | seracht_ | deltron: you make addons? |
| 17:52.39 | seracht_ | never knew |
| 17:52.46 | seracht_ | and what happened to LOTRO |
| 17:52.47 | seracht_ | gave up on it? |
| 17:52.57 | deltron | nah I don't |
| 17:53.04 | deltron | i sit and idle really |
| 17:53.10 | zenzelezz | Fear Ward makes Nightbane easier as a warrior; but the main reason I like it is because of the off chance that he'll land a hard blow while I'm still in Berserker Stance |
| 17:53.12 | deltron | I play lotro |
| 17:53.18 | deltron | sometimes heh |
| 17:53.43 | seracht_ | what's that liquid that makes you throw up a lot |
| 17:53.50 | deltron | ipecac |
| 17:54.12 | seracht_ | thanks |
| 17:54.16 | seracht_ | but ya, how's lotro |
| 17:54.32 | deltron | fun, playing a tanking class for once in my MMO life |
| 17:55.15 | seracht_ | nice |
| 17:55.18 | seracht_ | you hit 50 yet |
| 17:55.35 | deltron | hah no |
| 17:55.38 | deltron | 17 or 18 |
| 17:57.13 | Cide | why are the forums still down? =/ |
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| 18:01.17 | Lopeppeppy_ | Forums are hateful, Cide. It's Murphy's Law. |
| 18:01.55 | Cide | seems that way |
| 18:01.59 | |Jelly| | Peppy! |
| 18:02.03 | |Jelly| | I need some Dew! |
| 18:02.16 | |Jelly| | It's been a long day and not looking to be any shorter any time soon! |
| 18:03.02 | Lopeppeppy_ | Today is Diet Dr. Pepper, |Jelly|... I takes what I get from the convenience store in a rush. |
| 18:03.18 | |Jelly| | lol |
| 18:03.38 | |Jelly| | I'm thinking about disbanding my guild. |
| 18:05.51 | Lopeppeppy_ | I've thought that back and forth in the past as well, Jelly. Until the urge passed, I just passed on the GM mantle to my first officer. |
| 18:07.05 | |Jelly| | I'm just. I don't know. Too loyalty driven? |
| 18:07.27 | |Jelly| | For instance, one of my healers is running Kara with another guild but refuses to join that guild and I don't want to boot her. |
| 18:07.39 | |Jelly| | (I've known her since RFC) |
| 18:09.34 | |Jelly| | Come on Peppy! Be my voice of reason! |
| 18:11.09 | Josh_Borke | kick her imo |
| 18:11.20 | Josh_Borke | tell her she has to choose |
| 18:11.35 | |Jelly| | That's the thing...she says she chooses the guild. |
| 18:11.37 | |Jelly| | BUT... |
| 18:11.51 | Josh_Borke | if she chooses the guild then give her one more chance to not run with the other |
| 18:11.52 | |Jelly| | Until we get a solid group together, she's going to run with them. (Which I understand and well...am doing the same) |
| 18:11.58 | Josh_Borke | hm |
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| 18:12.03 | Josh_Borke | sounds like a predicament |
| 18:12.09 | |Jelly| | My question to her was what if we raid on Wednesday or Thursday and her friend's guild raids on Tuesday? |
| 18:12.14 | |Jelly| | Who do you choose? |
| 18:12.23 | |Jelly| | She said the guild...but I get the feeling that will change. |
| 18:12.28 | |Jelly| | DRAMARAMA! |
| 18:12.31 | Josh_Borke | are you EU? |
| 18:12.36 | |Jelly| | no |
| 18:12.51 | Josh_Borke | isn't the reset monday night then? |
| 18:13.04 | |Jelly| | During the server maint on Tuesday |
| 18:13.19 | |Jelly| | so...yes and no |
| 18:13.34 | Josh_Borke | yea, which happens between monday and tuesday usually, definitely before tuesday evening |
| 18:13.41 | |Jelly| | She thought she could do both but when I brought it up to her about being raid locked, she got quiet. |
| 18:13.49 | Josh_Borke | yea, exactly |
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| 18:16.51 | Shirik | wb Cairenn |
| 18:16.56 | Cairenn | thanks |
| 18:20.46 | seracht_ | |Jelly|: until you get the kara group going in your guild let her keep doing it |
| 18:20.47 | seracht_ | don't bring it up |
| 18:20.50 | seracht_ | it will create tension |
| 18:20.58 | seracht_ | when you ask her to come and she doesn't come, boot her then |
| 18:21.11 | seracht_ | don't boot her based on your assumptions that she might not come or what MIGHT happen |
| 18:21.12 | |Jelly| | = what I've pretty much said I'm gonna go |
| 18:21.16 | seracht_ | oh |
| 18:21.18 | |Jelly| | s/go/do |
| 18:21.23 | |Jelly| | i fail, really |
| 18:21.33 | Lopeppeppy_ | |Jelly|, our raid group lost the paladin officer for just that reason... until it becomes a choice, leave it be. When it comes down to choice, however, be practical. If you've know each other long enough, it will work out fine either way. |
| 18:22.04 | Lopeppeppy_ | Don't give yourself ulcers worrying the "might come to pass". Eat cookies instead. |
| 18:22.18 | seracht_ | you just repeated what I said lol |
| 18:23.43 | TS|Skrom | except she mentioned cookies with is infinately more win |
| 18:23.49 | |Jelly| | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:23.57 | |Jelly| | Skrom, thanks for the comment by the way 8) |
| 18:26.47 | TS|Skrom | np ^^ |
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| 18:28.27 | |Jelly| | Lunessa! |
| 18:28.43 | Lunessa | Hiya |Jelly| |
| 18:28.52 | AnduinLothar | This just in: Cookies cause ulcers in lab rats! |
| 18:28.54 | |Jelly| | How are you today? 8) |
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| 18:29.13 | Lunessa | This just in: I'm eating cookies anyway. |
| 18:29.29 | Lunessa | |Jelly|: I am sleepy and at work. |
| 18:29.32 | |Jelly| | This just in: /jealous |
| 18:30.14 | AnduinLothar | This just in: Michael Jackson eats cookies too. |
| 18:30.16 | TS|Skrom | This just in: AnduinLothar is really a gerbile! |
| 18:31.52 | TS|Skrom | O.o |
| 18:32.21 | Lunessa | TS|Skrom: What, you don't recall SNL from the 80s? |
| 18:35.44 | TS|Skrom | not that particular event |
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| 18:37.07 | Cide | http://img505.imageshack.us/my.php?image=catpapervq9.jpg |
| 18:37.29 | |Jelly| | rofl |
| 18:37.34 | Lunessa | "This just in" and "Jane..." were regular bits on their news segments. |
| 18:37.43 | zenzelezz | lol |
| 18:37.49 | cladhaire | LightHeaded has been updated with potential support for deDE locale |
| 18:37.50 | cladhaire | ------------------------------------------------------------------------ |
| 18:37.50 | cladhaire | r139 | jnwhiteh | 2007-06-20 14:11:18 -0400 (Wed, 20 Jun 2007) | 2 lines |
| 18:37.50 | cladhaire | * How about we stop faking deDE locale, and returning the same quest log title and informatino for every single index in the questbook.. kthx |
| 18:37.51 | cladhaire | ------------------------------------------------------------------------ |
| 18:37.51 | cladhaire | r138 | jnwhiteh | 2007-06-20 14:09:42 -0400 (Wed, 20 Jun 2007) | 2 lines |
| 18:37.53 | cladhaire | .Toc update to include deDE support preliminarily |
| 18:37.55 | zenzelezz | ... |
| 18:37.55 | cladhaire | ------------------------------------------------------------------------ |
| 18:37.57 | cladhaire | r137 | jnwhiteh | 2007-06-20 14:09:16 -0400 (Wed, 20 Jun 2007) | 3 lines |
| 18:37.59 | cladhaire | * Add a guard when we return the number of quest comments |
| 18:38.01 | cladhaire | * Add preliminary support for deDE clients. Lookups should happen properly, but ALL data will be displayed in English |
| 18:38.04 | cladhaire | ------------------------------------------------------------------------ |
| 18:38.06 | cladhaire | r136 | jnwhiteh | 2007-06-18 14:19:54 -0400 (Mon, 18 Jun 2007) | 2 lines |
| 18:38.08 | cladhaire | * Spell detach correctly please |
| 18:38.10 | cladhaire | oh my |
| 18:38.12 | cladhaire | hi |
| 18:38.14 | cladhaire | let me know if it works: http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/fileinfo.php?id=7017 |
| 18:38.16 | cladhaire | don't hate |
| 18:38.40 | Shirik | ~comfort zen |
| 18:38.40 | purl | There, there, zen. It's OK. I'm here for you. |
| 18:38.42 | Shirik | ~comfort zenzelezz |
| 18:38.42 | purl | There, there, zenzelezz. It's OK. I'm here for you. |
| 18:38.46 | Shirik | ~lart cladhaire |
| 18:38.46 | purl | whips out a sword and chops cladhaire in half |
| 18:39.29 | zenzelezz | I still have 1.1 level left till 70 on my hunter, but trying to figure a talent build... but I've grown fond of BM :-/ |
| 18:39.31 | Cide | I would like to re-emphasize on http://img505.imageshack.us/my.php?image=catpapervq9.jpg |
| 18:39.39 | Cide | since cladhaire filled my screen with stuff |
| 18:39.58 | cladhaire | =) |
| 18:40.18 | cladhaire | that's awesome cide |
| 18:40.37 | N00bZXI | Cide: LMAO |
| 18:40.56 | Lunessa | I'm in ur irc, fillin ur skreenz |
| 18:41.00 | Tem | Cide, I know where you got that picture |
| 18:41.10 | Cide | on the internets of course |
| 18:41.22 | Tem | I've got a better guess of where on the internets |
| 18:41.28 | Tem | but I shant speak of it |
| 18:41.40 | Cide | on irc actually |
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| 18:44.01 | Lunessa | Bah - http://icanhascheezburger.com/ |
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| 18:45.59 | Tem | okay, so I got another darkrune |
| 18:46.16 | Tem | is the felguard's special bugged, or am I using it wrong? |
| 18:46.34 | TS|Skrom | http://icanhascheezburger.com/2007/02/22/hangover-cat/ XD |
| 18:46.43 | Tem | I got to the 'boss' of the first stage last time, but he completely owned me |
| 18:46.52 | Tem | and using his special did nothing |
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| 18:46.59 | Tem | (except consume a crystal focus) |
| 18:50.53 | zenzelezz | what boss/felguard? |
| 18:52.14 | Lopeppeppy_ | Okies, time to go for an hour drive to get to home, y'all stay good. |
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| 18:53.50 | Tem | the first one |
| 18:53.59 | Tem | it was only my first attempt so I didn't get very far |
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| 18:54.20 | *** join/#wowi-lounge Cide- (i=Cide@hus110a.bobbnet.com) |
| 18:54.33 | zenzelezz | but what context is this? My loose page-up'ing didn't reveal any clues |
| 18:55.18 | Tem | the darkrune event in Ogri'la |
| 18:55.43 | zenzelezz | oh, don't know anything about that :-| |
| 18:57.40 | TS|Skrom | haha http://icanhascheezburger.com/2007/01/15/day-i-got-cookie/ |
| 19:17.16 | KriLL3 | what needs sea/eart/fire etc? I got all of them and don't know why... |
| 19:18.06 | KriLL3 | *earth |
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| 19:19.12 | Gryphen | lots of things |
| 19:19.27 | Gryphen | disable em, see what goes red |
| 19:19.45 | KriLL3 | yeah, that's a good idea actually. |
| 19:20.09 | KriLL3 | I've recently more or less shifted most of my UI to other addons, might be some of them aren't needed anymore |
| 19:20.27 | Gryphen | i lot of Cosmos addons use those |
| 19:20.29 | KriLL3 | mostly cut back on the amount of CTmod addons |
| 19:20.44 | KriLL3 | I only got some of the addons cosmos "absorbed", not cosmos itself |
| 19:21.41 | Fin | N00bZXI: I like RageBuffs! |
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| 19:26.49 | AnduinLothar | erm Gryphen, who you talkign to? |
| 19:27.04 | Gryphen | KriLL3... |
| 19:27.12 | AnduinLothar | ahh. ignored |
| 19:27.29 | AnduinLothar | my bad |
| 19:29.46 | Cide- | KriLL3: in favor of ace addons, I hope |
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| 19:30.20 | KriLL3 | yeah |
| 19:30.21 | Lunessa | ZOMG! |
| 19:30.28 | KriLL3 | bartender and pitbull etc :> |
| 19:30.41 | N00bZXI | Fin: Thanks :) |
| 19:31.09 | Fin | N00bZXI: what were the other two things you released? |
| 19:31.37 | N00bZXI | Fin: This is the first I've released in a very long time |
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| 19:32.04 | KriLL3 | where can I get "FireTree" it's not on wowui, nor wowinterface nor curse... |
| 19:32.39 | N00bZXI | The next two things I might release would be tooltip/minimap |
| 19:33.17 | Gryphen | firetree is on cosmosui.org |
| 19:33.52 | KriLL3 | seems all new versions of sea/fire/earth needs it, though when I disabled those no addons became red, guess I've removed my last cosmos related stuff |
| 19:34.23 | Gryphen | think the only thing that needs firetree is khaos |
| 19:34.25 | Cairenn | gah, who was I just talking to in IMs? :p |
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| 19:34.49 | KriLL3 | nope all those named are now red due to lacking firetree |
| 19:34.51 | Cairenn | toooo much stuff going on! can't keep everything straight! |
| 19:36.15 | Gryphen | KriLL3 something is odd then. Sea should not turn red by anything being disabled. |
| 19:36.22 | Gryphen | it has not deps |
| 19:36.34 | Gryphen | no* |
| 19:39.00 | Valaron|Work | Neebler is in Chico, CA? |
| 19:41.29 | N00bZXI | Fin: rofl @ your comment |
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| 19:45.47 | ScytheBlade1 | :( @ wowwiki.com |
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| 19:47.16 | deltron | lmao |
| 19:47.35 | deltron | my former MT called a'dal the crystal mayor |
| 19:47.36 | deltron | heh |
| 19:48.04 | KriLL3 | the latest patch is awesome, removes the memory leak that happened on alt+tab/focus shift, I'm on 3 monitors and switch focus away from wow all the time, ran horribly slow for me |
| 19:48.21 | KriLL3 | 4~ times the FPS after 10 mins of play |
| 19:49.32 | deltron | yeah |
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| 19:52.46 | KriLL3 | why does some of the errors that show up in red over your head have . and other not? O_o |
| 19:53.18 | |Jelly| | Blizzard r gud wif gramer. |
| 19:53.53 | KriLL3 | u shur? |
| 19:54.09 | Elkano | me dont :( |
| 19:55.10 | Josh_Borke | neither I |
| 19:56.59 | Thunder_Child | because some are proper sentances and others are not? |
| 19:57.05 | TS|Skrom | what say you? |
| 19:58.11 | KriLL3 | "You can't mount indoors" isn't a sentence and "You must equip that item to use it." is? |
| 19:58.50 | Thunder_Child | i said proper sentace |
| 19:58.56 | Thunder_Child | ...well i know i cant spell |
| 19:59.08 | KriLL3 | "Item is not ready yet." "Can't do that while stunned" "Can only use outside" "You can't do that yet" "Spell is not ready yet." etc |
| 19:59.25 | foxlit | "You can't mount indoors" is fine! |
| 19:59.32 | KriLL3 | and yes that's how they appear, that's an exempt from my roguespam list |
| 19:59.33 | foxlit | Misses a dot, bot nothing wrong with it |
| 19:59.57 | KriLL3 | =P |
| 20:00.10 | foxlit | Neither is there anything wrong with the rest of those |
| 20:00.11 | KriLL3 | dots are important imo |
| 20:00.23 | foxlit | Are you just complaining about the lack of punctuation? |
| 20:00.36 | KriLL3 | just seems inconsistent |
| 20:00.40 | |Jelly| | and subjects : / |
| 20:00.43 | KriLL3 | to use it some places but others not |
| 20:01.11 | foxlit | Prefix with Error: |
| 20:02.37 | KriLL3 | I love that I get 20~ errors on load, some of my addons aren't that well written it would seem... :\ |
| 20:03.14 | KriLL3 | funny that my own addon that is basically just a pile of code works just fine, but Atlas addons give errors XD |
| 20:05.40 | KriLL3 | hugz tiem? |
| 20:05.51 | TS|Skrom | that or you don't have them updated? |
| 20:05.57 | Valaron|Work | I just ate the most greasiest food. My heart's racing like mad. |
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| 20:06.16 | KriLL3 | Valaron|Work: drink some de-greaser |
| 20:06.19 | KriLL3 | TS|Skrom: possible |
| 20:06.29 | TS|Skrom | I would say probable. My atlas gives 0 error |
| 20:06.41 | KriLL3 | well it's third party atlas stuff |
| 20:06.44 | KriLL3 | not the official |
| 20:06.51 | TS|Skrom | such as? |
| 20:06.58 | KriLL3 | DPS |
| 20:08.07 | KriLL3 | "TitanDSPAdditions" string.gfind was renamed to string.gmatch if that makes any sense to you |
| 20:08.32 | TS|Skrom | what? what does titan have to do with atlas? |
| 20:08.47 | KriLL3 | well I got an atlas thing also |
| 20:09.03 | Shirik | both titan and atlas return the same value when calling getfenv(0) |
| 20:09.08 | Shirik | thus they are similar :P |
| 20:09.43 | KriLL3 | "bad argument #1 to 'ippairs' (table expected, got nil) on atlasloot actually |
| 20:09.54 | Shirik | ippairs? |
| 20:09.56 | TS|Skrom | yeah, time to update |
| 20:10.02 | KriLL3 | just did |
| 20:10.03 | Josh_Borke | typo i'm sure |
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| 20:13.58 | Lunessa | http://www.wired.com/culture/lifestyle/commentary/alttext/2007/06/alttext_0620 |
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| 20:26.16 | zenzelezz | any 70 hunters around? |
| 20:28.38 | [dRaCo] | who need hunters anyway? ;) |
| 20:29.16 | KriLL3 | ranged dps that doesn't need mana |
| 20:29.40 | pastamancer | hunters need mana |
| 20:29.45 | [dRaCo] | great. autoshoot dps :> |
| 20:29.46 | KriLL3 | not for autoshot |
| 20:29.57 | KriLL3 | autoshot best dps ingame |
| 20:29.59 | KriLL3 | fact |
| 20:30.03 | TS|Skrom | omg lol: job application I'm filling out had this question |
| 20:30.30 | TS|Skrom | Are you or have you ever been affiliated with any group or organization which seeks or advocates the overthrow of the government of the United States by force of violence? |
| 20:30.40 | TS|Skrom | Who in their right mind would ever check yes? |
| 20:31.08 | [dRaCo] | somebody who's proud of being a member of the village people? |
| 20:31.10 | KriLL3 | does PETA count? =P |
| 20:32.32 | N00bZXI | Cide: Was CT_ShieldMod discontinued? |
| 20:33.00 | KriLL3 | haven't seen it in ages |
| 20:33.43 | Industrial | whoever picks something like that up, having a statusbar for it instead of only a numeric value would r0x your s0x |
| 20:33.51 | Lunessa | TS|Skrom: Companies which do government work, or contract work with security implications are required by law to ask that. |
| 20:34.29 | KriLL3 | Lunessa: and even if you did belong to a group like that, would you say yes? |
| 20:34.46 | KriLL3 | would an al-quida operative tick yes in that field? =P |
| 20:34.59 | Lunessa | Because when you say 'no' the background check discovers the answer is 'yes' and you get fired. :P |
| 20:35.07 | KriLL3 | oh |
| 20:35.39 | pastamancer | yeah, there's plenty of groups that have advocated the violent overthrow of the government |
| 20:35.57 | KriLL3 | pastamancer: your own gov for instance |
| 20:36.27 | N00bZXI | Please.. not politics here :( |
| 20:36.28 | TS|Skrom | here we go |
| 20:36.47 | TS|Skrom | Lunessa yeah I guess I never considered a "sewer district" to be a secure service |
| 20:37.04 | KriLL3 | well it has to with the function of the town |
| 20:37.13 | KriLL3 | not fun if the sewers break down |
| 20:37.21 | Lunessa | Infrastructure / Public Works .. Oh heck yeah. |
| 20:37.41 | KriLL3 | same as roads and water etc |
| 20:37.47 | TS|Skrom | hope I get tthis job >< |
| 20:38.00 | TS|Skrom | 8k more, free benefits and less responsibility? win/win |
| 20:38.08 | KriLL3 | civilization as we know it breaks down without working roads sewers and tap water |
| 20:38.09 | TS|Skrom | even if I won't be able to play WoW at work anymore |
| 20:38.40 | KriLL3 | TS|Skrom: I hope you don't have a too intimate connection with the sewers in this job |
| 20:39.06 | TS|Skrom | nope, PC Analyst position |
| 20:39.14 | TS|Skrom | aka help desk |
| 20:39.22 | KriLL3 | good, crawling in poo isn't exactly fun. |
| 20:39.43 | KriLL3 | thought help desk isn't overly joyful either |
| 20:39.56 | TS|Skrom | meh |
| 20:40.01 | KriLL3 | depends on the average age I guess |
| 20:40.12 | TS|Skrom | it's what I do now (my title is network admin, but I'm glorified helpdesk plus I get to buy stuff) |
| 20:40.56 | KriLL3 | I worked helpdesk at a company with many seniors, too proud to admit they don't know squat about computers and to conscious about their own supposedly higher position, wasn't easy to deal with. |
| 20:41.39 | KriLL3 | I can be smooth at need but when you need to tell a guy the same thing more than 6 times it grows old |
| 20:41.57 | N00bZXI | I sure am glad I don't work at a helpdesk |
| 20:42.07 | KriLL3 | I'm sure glad I don't anymore. |
| 20:42.43 | N00bZXI | I don't mind helping people. I DO mind helping people who make themselves look like THEY'RE entitled to help people. |
| 20:42.51 | Lunessa | I work at one. |
| 20:43.14 | N00bZXI | According to RL friends that's a pretty large % of people |
| 20:43.26 | TS|Skrom | 8k more then I make now is the MINIMUM too which is cool |
| 20:43.42 | KriLL3 | Though I almost consider offering my services to where my mom works, their IT staff is a bunch of morons, I formated her PC (locked down so tight you couldn't switch network settings, theme etc.) and when she took it back to them they re-installed XP and manually installed and configured all software it had to run. |
| 20:43.42 | TS|Skrom | I've got 4 years experience here as network admin, plus a few other random years doing other tech stuff |
| 20:43.49 | KriLL3 | guess "ghost" isn't in their vocabulary |
| 20:43.50 | TS|Skrom | so it could be as much as 20k more then I make now |
| 20:43.55 | KriLL3 | took them 4 hours to restore it |
| 20:45.22 | KriLL3 | restoring a laptop to it's default state the company uses should take a couple of mins using a ghost image, but nope, they did it manually =P |
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| 20:46.18 | N00bZXI | [13:32:49]<N00bZXI>Cide: Was CT_ShieldMod discontinued? |
| 20:46.24 | N00bZXI | You were offline I believe |
| 20:47.13 | Valaron|Work | Symantec Ghost is the way of the future. |
| 20:47.41 | Valaron|Work | 30 computers multicasted in 2 hours. |
| 20:48.04 | Cide- | N00bZXI: not really discontinued, but we haven't released a new version for WoW 2.x (yet) |
| 20:48.37 | KriLL3 | CT_Profiles was discontinued when armory was released, correct? |
| 20:48.47 | KriLL3 | I'm getting errors with it and I don't see a new version online |
| 20:49.04 | Thunder_Child | it was after, but yes it has been discontinued |
| 20:49.27 | KriLL3 | I wish armory would allow multiple item sets |
| 20:49.49 | KriLL3 | druids in particular needs quite different gear for each role |
| 20:50.04 | N00bZXI | Cide-: Alright, guess I'll wait. I could've picked it up if it were discontinued, though. :) |
| 20:50.23 | KriLL3 | I hope btw that they keep the cloned arena vendors, anoying to go to area52... |
| 20:50.53 | KriLL3 | or are the lower prices and the vendors temporary you think? |
| 20:51.14 | Kaydeethree | the season 1 prices are low permanently, the cloned vendors in the honor reward areas aren't |
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| 20:51.43 | KriLL3 | the new vendors don't have the season1 stuff, correct? |
| 20:51.56 | KriLL3 | I only see merciless stuff, and that's the new stuff, If I'm not mistaken |
| 20:53.04 | KriLL3 | is there a comprehensive site with the differences between the season 1 and 2 gear sets? |
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| 20:58.04 | foxlit | So, um, they nerfed my decursive exploit |
| 20:58.19 | zenzelezz | ..? |
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| 20:58.47 | foxlit | There was an issue with tainting and secure frames that let you arbirarely determine which spells to cast on which targets |
| 20:59.17 | foxlit | Which is good, but I think there's a couple of issues with their fix |
| 20:59.36 | foxlit | Ah no, darn |
| 21:00.11 | foxlit | * Enabling and disabling buttons is now protected functionality and may not be called on secure frames while in combat. |
| 21:00.59 | foxlit | Iriel said they'd make /click ignore disabled status, which would've been better |
| 21:04.15 | KriLL3 | I liked decursive, but I stopped using it back when they first nuked it, since I knew that any attempt at re-making it with it's original functionality would only be nuked by blizz a couple of weeks later |
| 21:04.49 | KriLL3 | through cromagnuss(sp) wasn't fun without decursive, not at all... |
| 21:04.51 | foxlit | It's not really decursive I'm concerned about |
| 21:04.58 | KriLL3 | ok |
| 21:05.35 | foxlit | My trinket mod used to systematically disable buttons if the cooldown wasn't up; if this happens before combat, it's now not usable. Basically, I need extra code to enable both buttons when entering combat. |
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| 21:06.08 | KriLL3 | does it matter? if the cooldown isn't done and you press it no harm done |
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| 21:07.52 | foxlit | It's a nice touch, since I used it to grey out the texture as well |
| 21:09.16 | foxlit | Basically, extra code = whining about writing it :) |
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| 21:11.39 | Lunessa | I want to smash every one who offers /castsequcence reset=X <spell>, <spell>, <spell>, <spell>, <spell>, <spell>; as a work around for cooldowns. |
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| 21:16.23 | Valaron|Work | laugh |
| 21:19.21 | Lunessa | Smash the right in the face. |
| 21:19.29 | Lunessa | *them |
| 21:22.15 | cladhaire_ | anyone here familiar with dnsmasq? |
| 21:25.20 | Josh_Borke | i've used it but not familiar |
| 21:25.34 | cladhaire_ | ah okay |
| 21:25.38 | Josh_Borke | it's being used by my server :-) |
| 21:26.37 | Josh_Borke | what are you trying to do? |
| 21:26.53 | cladhaire_ | my router is caching dns |
| 21:26.54 | cladhaire_ | and its pissing me off =) |
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| 21:28.01 | Josh_Borke | try sending it a SIGHUP |
| 21:30.49 | Josh_Borke | wait, got it |
| 21:30.54 | Josh_Borke | cache-size=0 |
| 21:31.02 | Lunessa | Are you sure it's the router? I'm not sure what the console commands for a DNS flush is on OSX. |
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| 21:31.46 | cladhaire | yes, its the router |
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| 21:36.46 | Valaron|Work | What kind of router? |
| 21:39.45 | Lunessa | WHOA - post timer increased! |
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| 21:40.46 | zenzelezz | so you can post less often? |
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| 21:41.52 | Lunessa | Yeah. I had well over a 60 second wait between posts. |
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| 21:47.02 | Shirik | cladhaire: You around? |
| 21:50.07 | clad|away | Shirik: whats up |
| 21:50.52 | Shirik | I have a very rough version ready, I just want you to compile it to ensure I'm not using anything specific to windows... the one function that worries me is _scprintf() which I've never used before |
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| 21:51.22 | clad|away | mail it |
| 21:53.05 | Shirik | I don't think I have your email :( |
| 21:53.56 | clad|away | you swhould |
| 21:53.59 | clad|away | its at gmail |
| 21:54.02 | clad|away | i only have two usernames =) |
| 21:54.03 | clad|away | pick one |
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| 22:00.27 | Shirik | clad|away: sent |
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| 22:11.17 | Kaydeethree | heh... my gear is beyond broken.. |
| 22:11.29 | Kaydeethree | I've got 1 piece of t3, 1 piece of t5, a few pieces of t4 |
| 22:11.59 | Lunessa | What ever you do, don't look at my armory entries ... |
| 22:12.58 | foxlit | __index metatable entry should not confuse pairs(), right? |
| 22:13.24 | foxlit | If I'm using it to set up a bunch of silent aliases inside a table, none of those aliases should appear in a for k in pairs(t) do print(k) end? |
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| 22:15.47 | Shirik|zZz | Foxbot: correct |
| 22:15.55 | Shirik|zZz | foxlit* |
| 22:16.30 | Shirik|zZz | pairs() returns an iterator that operates on the elements of the table. Those values which are accessible by __index are not actually part of the table, just an alternate lookup |
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| 22:17.37 | Shirik|zZz | >>> a = {a=1,b=2,c=3}; b = setmetatable({d=4,e=5,f=6},{ __index = a}); for k,v in pairs(b) do print(k..": "..v); end |
| 22:17.38 | Cide | Shirik|zZz: "e: 5", "d: 4", "f: 6" |
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| 22:42.38 | Shirik|zZz | "You are about to close 87 tabs. Are you sure you want to continue?" |
| 22:42.44 | Shirik|zZz | That explains why firefox was responding so slowly... |
| 22:43.13 | sag_ich_nicht | lol. |
| 22:43.18 | Valaron|Work | Do you need that many porn sites opened at once? |
| 22:43.21 | sag_ich_nicht | get more ram Shirik. |
| 22:43.29 | sag_ich_nicht | obviously, it's one porn site |
| 22:43.32 | sag_ich_nicht | he opens all the pics |
| 22:43.35 | sag_ich_nicht | then turns on tab rotation |
| 22:43.36 | sag_ich_nicht | hurdur |
| 22:44.19 | Valaron|Work | It's a slideshow! |
| 22:44.27 | sag_ich_nicht | exactly. |
| 22:44.28 | sag_ich_nicht | and now i go to bed |
| 22:44.31 | sag_ich_nicht | good night |
| 22:45.00 | Cide | Shirik|zZz: so you're browsing the net while asleep? |
| 22:45.09 | Shirik|zZz | yup |
| 22:45.18 | Shirik|zZz | haven't you ever seen that xkcd comic? |
| 22:45.18 | Cide | that's fairly advanced sleepwalking |
| 22:45.47 | Cide | don't think so |
| 22:46.13 | Shirik|zZz | TCMP: http://xkcd.com/c269.html |
| 22:47.35 | Cide | haha, that's awesome |
| 22:48.24 | Josh_Borke | lol |
| 22:50.02 | Shirik|zZz | anyway, night :) |
| 22:50.50 | Cide | night |
| 22:51.31 | ScytheBlade1 | Err |
| 22:51.38 | ScytheBlade1 | When was the minigame added? |
| 22:52.13 | ScytheBlade1 | Specifically, MinigameFrame + friends |
| 22:54.23 | ScytheBlade1 | And why does the wiki lack all forms of documentation on the matter. -.- |
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| 22:54.44 | tardmrr | it was added a LONG time ago |
| 22:54.50 | tardmrr | but it's not active |
| 22:54.54 | tardmrr | like around 1.11, I think |
| 22:54.56 | ScytheBlade1 | That's kinda depressing |
| 22:55.05 | ScytheBlade1 | I just noticed it in the interface files |
| 22:55.17 | Kaydeethree | meh. how much crap have they sent in the MPQs that haven't been used? |
| 22:55.23 | Kaydeethree | see: Emerald Dream |
| 22:55.31 | Kaydeethree | s/haven't/hasn't/ |
| 22:55.38 | ScytheBlade1 | Heh. Or accidently release |
| 22:55.40 | ScytheBlade1 | See: linux client |
| 22:56.31 | Kaydeethree | wha? you mean IsLinuxClient()? |
| 22:57.18 | zenzelezz | just because it's in there and not used doesn't mean it never will |
| 22:57.32 | foxlit | Warning: incoming 5-lines of code. Can anyone see anything wrong in them? |
| 22:57.33 | foxlit | t = setmetatable({}, {__index=function(t, key) |
| 22:57.34 | foxlit | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:57.34 | foxlit | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:57.34 | foxlit | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:57.34 | foxlit | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:57.35 | foxlit | end}); |
| 22:57.46 | zenzelezz | I count six lines you liar |
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| 22:58.00 | foxlit | mwhahaha! |
| 22:58.00 | Josh_Borke | i count 6 too |
| 22:58.06 | Josh_Borke | spam! |
| 22:58.08 | foxlit | And I'm letired! |
| 22:58.09 | Josh_Borke | kick him! |
| 22:58.20 | foxlit | t.a = {b="x"} |
| 22:58.30 | foxlit | t["a.b"] == nil, why? |
| 22:59.04 | Josh_Borke | foxlit: t[key] = ? |
| 22:59.09 | Josh_Borke | hm |
| 22:59.18 | cog|work | foxlit: "a.b" is its own unique key |
| 22:59.19 | foxlit | pastey spam again |
| 22:59.27 | foxlit | I know, you missed the first part |
| 22:59.33 | cog|work | apparently :P |
| 22:59.35 | Josh_Borke | >>> string.match("a.b","^([^.]+)[.](.+)$") |
| 22:59.35 | Cide | Josh_Borke: "a", "b" |
| 23:00.26 | foxlit | http://www.pastey.net/57354 |
| 23:00.30 | foxlit | It's fine, btw. |
| 23:00.36 | foxlit | I sucked with command-line lua and locals |
| 23:01.45 | Cide | Josh_Borke: nice way of escaping "." :P |
| 23:01.55 | Josh_Borke | it worked for me |
| 23:02.02 | Josh_Borke | he did it :-P |
| 23:02.27 | foxlit | %. is le ugly! |
| 23:02.28 | Josh_Borke | foxlit: that exact code gave me foo |
| 23:02.38 | foxlit | <foxlit> It's fine, btw. |
| 23:02.38 | foxlit | [01:00] <foxlit> I sucked with command-line lua and locals |
| 23:02.45 | Josh_Borke | oh, missed the it's fine |
| 23:03.06 | foxlit | did local traverseMeta = {... table}; t = setmetatable({}, traverseMeta); in two lines |
| 23:04.22 | Kaydeethree | hm. weird... the only time any of the Is____Client()s get used is in the SoundOptionsFrame for the mac client. |
| 23:04.32 | Cide | foxlit: do ... end :) |
| 23:05.23 | ScytheBlade1 | Kaydeethree, no, I mean the binaries I have sitting on my HD. (really) |
| 23:05.26 | ScytheBlade1 | Sadly they don't do jack. |
| 23:05.29 | foxlit | Cide: thanks, will keep in mind next time :) |
| 23:05.41 | Kaydeethree | oO; when did this happen? |
| 23:05.53 | ScytheBlade1 | FilePlanet public beta |
| 23:05.59 | ScytheBlade1 | They shipped them in the MPQs |
| 23:06.01 | Kaydeethree | aah |
| 23:06.22 | ScytheBlade1 | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:07.08 | Kaydeethree | well I'll be damned |
| 23:07.30 | ScytheBlade1 | Heh |
| 23:07.31 | foxlit | Hah, that metatable is so evil :) |
| 23:08.16 | ScytheBlade1 | Kaydeethree, never thought it to be possible? |
| 23:08.43 | Kaydeethree | nah, I figured it would be, probably using opengl or something since they're running on a kinda-bsd anyway |
| 23:09.03 | ScytheBlade1 | You should see the strings in the binary. :) |
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| 23:11.10 | ScytheBlade1 | ... the linux binary |
| 23:11.11 | ScytheBlade1 | ;) |
| 23:11.45 | End | ScytheBlade1: what was the legal reason that made them not ship it? |
| 23:12.05 | ScytheBlade1 | End, no clue. I'd suggest asking slouken, but.. that's only so doable. :) |
| 23:12.25 | End | oh, I thought you knew said reasons, since |
| 23:12.29 | ScytheBlade1 | If I had to guess, something about the GPL and the grey area and such crap |
| 23:12.30 | End | I dug up your slashdot post :P |
| 23:12.34 | ScytheBlade1 | lol |
| 23:12.37 | ScytheBlade1 | Points for style |
| 23:13.01 | ScytheBlade1 | http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=207932&cid=16952816 |
| 23:13.25 | ScytheBlade1 | "Legal reasons" is what I get out of "people" that I "know" |
| 23:13.37 | ScytheBlade1 | Read: people who got personal invites to the WoW F&F alpha |
| 23:14.05 | End | hehe, ok |
| 23:14.14 | End | pity though :-/ |
| 23:14.28 | ScytheBlade1 | No joke |
| 23:14.30 | ScytheBlade1 | Wine, while nice |
| 23:14.34 | ScytheBlade1 | Is a long run from native |
| 23:14.59 | Kaydeethree | ya |
| 23:16.08 | Kaydeethree | but it's funny... I've never played my character from a windows box |
| 23:16.24 | Kaydeethree | part of me wonders what my fps would be on windows with my pos 5200fx |
| 23:16.33 | ScytheBlade1 | Especially when the voice chat hits... that day will both both frighten me, and make me incredibly happy |
| 23:17.01 | Kaydeethree | I wonder how far off 2.2 actually is? |
| 23:17.10 | ScytheBlade1 | No clue |
| 23:17.21 | ScytheBlade1 | I'd imagine a month at a minimum, though |
| 23:17.27 | cog|work | probably another couple mos |
| 23:17.48 | cog|work | esp. with ptr time |
| 23:17.49 | Bleeter | I'd suspect no linux client due to support nightmare |
| 23:17.56 | zenzelezz | so, was TK and SSC stock full of people on anyone else's servers also today? |
| 23:18.01 | End | It's likely Zul'Aman will appear in 2.2 I think |
| 23:18.03 | ScytheBlade1 | Bleeter, do what UT2004 did. "No support." |
| 23:18.38 | Bleeter | hmm, $100 for a game, $15 per month for subscription but no support... erm, pass thx |
| 23:18.50 | End | $100? o_O |
| 23:18.53 | ScytheBlade1 | I'd be fine with it. |
| 23:18.56 | ScytheBlade1 | WoW + TBC |
| 23:18.59 | Kaydeethree | not like we get support as is anyway |
| 23:19.05 | End | oh, yeah, if you bought both at release |
| 23:19.07 | ScytheBlade1 | Hehe, what Kaydeethree said |
| 23:19.18 | ScytheBlade1 | We get forums and an overloaded e-mail contact |
| 23:19.29 | ScytheBlade1 | Plus a *not* toll free, long distance number |
| 23:19.36 | Bleeter | and as I always say, look at the nightmare VMWare have to jump through to ensure the base OS has sufficient libraries |
| 23:19.57 | ScytheBlade1 | VMWare is also doing much, much, much more than WoW would ever need to do |
| 23:20.04 | Kaydeethree | "thou shalt install SDL and be done with it" |
| 23:20.05 | ScytheBlade1 | Valid point, yes, but overextended |
| 23:20.18 | Bleeter | would still need, to some degree, ensure minimum Xorg and closed proprietary driver |
| 23:20.47 | Bleeter | yes, well, SDL WoW *would* be the way to go ;) |
| 23:21.09 | ScytheBlade1 | Especially with someone like Slouken on the dev team ;) |
| 23:21.29 | Bleeter | he's got more important things to worry 'bout at the moment |
| 23:21.47 | Bleeter | like be @ home to accept delivery of my Nin DS to him so libsdl can get ported to the Nin DS Linux |
| 23:22.01 | ScytheBlade1 | lol |
| 23:22.04 | Kaydeethree | ha |
| 23:22.15 | *** join/#wowi-lounge Adys (n=Miranda@APoitiers-256-1-174-124.w90-38.abo.wanadoo.fr) |
| 23:22.23 | ScytheBlade1 | I personally think that he both maintains the "port" and plays on linux ;P |
| 23:22.31 | ScytheBlade1 | They have proven to have an existing client |
| 23:22.37 | ScytheBlade1 | He's blue. He can get away with it. |
| 23:22.42 | ScytheBlade1 | (But red tape sucks.) |
| 23:22.50 | Bleeter | I'd be very suprised if he didn't have a personal hacked up client that he uses somewhere |
| 23:23.07 | ScytheBlade1 | Not even really hacked up. This is production quality software that I have here (for an alpha) |
| 23:23.24 | ScytheBlade1 | He has the cross platform experience and everything else needed |
| 23:23.38 | Mike-N-Go | What is wrong in this code block, it errors that it is attempting to call a table value?: for k,v in self.db.account[(GetRealmName())][(UnitName("player"))].friend do ... end |
| 23:24.09 | End | it wouldn't surprise me if there is a branch slouken (or someone else even) commits to sometimes to keep it somewhat up to date, but it's probably not quite as production quality anymore :P |
| 23:24.42 | Bleeter | he'd prolly need to hack occasionally, but yes given that on the whole it works so nicely in Wine, the OGL code seems pretty clean, ... yeah, what End said |
| 23:24.43 | ScytheBlade1 | I'd be 100% fine with no support. |
| 23:24.53 | ScytheBlade1 | I really would be. |
| 23:24.57 | End | yeah same |
| 23:25.11 | ScytheBlade1 | If it breaks, fine |
| 23:25.11 | Bleeter | yeah, I'd be happy with no support, if we got an official forum to keep in contact with each other |
| 23:25.18 | ScytheBlade1 | I grab the windows binary, call it good |
| 23:25.43 | ScytheBlade1 | Heh. I'd be fine with a 3rd party forum, personally |
| 23:25.48 | ScytheBlade1 | Look at the job WoWWiki does. |
| 23:25.58 | Kaydeethree | just something better than the appdb page on winehq |
| 23:26.04 | ScytheBlade1 | Haha, fair enough. |
| 23:26.31 | ScytheBlade1 | You know, if I knew enough about my legal rights to distribute these binaries, I'd be happy to. |
| 23:26.35 | ScytheBlade1 | Anyone know details? |
| 23:26.35 | End | interesting, slouken still messes around with sdl development :P |
| 23:27.10 | Bleeter | I seem to recall when he left Loki for Blizz, he said he wasn't going to give up SDL |
| 23:27.28 | Bleeter | and he's still active on the SDL lists |
| 23:27.54 | Bleeter | (hence, when I saw the 'need' for a Nin DS on the SDL h/w page, I sent him mine) |
| 23:28.01 | End | I remember seeing a post where he talked about how sdl 2 was in the works, but never came to anything because everyone got married and got other jobs and whatnot |
| 23:28.38 | End | Actually, wow, yeah, he posts a lot more than I expected. |
| 23:28.41 | Osagasu | women and babies tend to do that to a man. |
| 23:28.42 | Lunessa | *cries* Some people are too stupid to own an iMac. |
| 23:28.51 | Kaydeethree | how is that even /possible/? |
| 23:28.53 | ScytheBlade1 | http://wowi.pastey.net/57403 |
| 23:28.57 | Kaydeethree | it's an iMac... |
| 23:29.00 | ScytheBlade1 | That's a copy of all SDL strings in the binary. |
| 23:29.19 | ScytheBlade1 | Well, and shared objects. |
| 23:29.27 | Lunessa | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=112581257&sid=1 |
| 23:29.31 | Bleeter | heh, never occurred to me to strings for SDL |
| 23:29.39 | ScytheBlade1 | Line 37 is fun |
| 23:30.37 | End | given there is the libSDL so in the directory without all the other libraries, it's no surprise they used/use SDL :P |
| 23:31.00 | Bleeter | hell, I think it'd just be fun if they release linux PTR builds only |
| 23:31.05 | *** topic/#wowi-lounge by Cairenn -> #wowi-lounge: Paste Code Here: http://wowi.pastey.net | 2.1 Toc: 20100 | RTFPN please | To the world you may be one person, but to one person you may be the world |
| 23:31.33 | Lunessa | Can I just get the world to each give me $1? |
| 23:31.34 | Bleeter | but yes, might be correct then with regards to GPL licensing, etc. |
| 23:31.51 | ScytheBlade1 | The WowClient binary has references to SDL too, but in that pastey, most of them are from the lib |
| 23:31.53 | Mr_Rabies2 | hahaha |
| 23:32.12 | Mr_Rabies2 | i basically took southshore back solo against a 46 and 3 70's :D |
| 23:32.21 | Kaydeethree | ouch |
| 23:32.21 | zenzelezz | so who's this special person Cairenn? |
| 23:32.28 | Kaydeethree | zen; my thoughts entirely |
| 23:32.29 | Cairenn | :) |
| 23:32.47 | zenzelezz | SS or it didn't happen |
| 23:32.47 | Mr_Rabies2 | oneshotted the 46 druid, then turned around and killed the shaman when his warrior buddies left him and the druid alone |
| 23:33.09 | Mr_Rabies2 | then snuck in and killed one of two warriors before dying, then ran back and killed the other : |
| 23:33.10 | Mr_Rabies2 | :D |
| 23:33.19 | Mr_Rabies2 | well, other than the 35 druid following me around moonfire spamming |
| 23:33.32 | Mr_Rabies2 | this is on a PVE server, so i'm sure they weren't expecting retaliation |
| 23:33.38 | Bleeter | hmm, guildies reporting wowhead.com is redirecting them to godaddy.com |
| 23:33.44 | Bleeter | wondering if anyone else is seeing this? |
| 23:33.53 | Josh_Borke | same |
| 23:33.55 | zenzelezz | not me, and I've been using wowhead today |
| 23:33.55 | Mr_Rabies2 | not i, they may have switched servers or something |
| 23:33.57 | Josh_Borke | someone screwed up the DNS |
| 23:34.02 | wobin | ditto |
| 23:34.10 | zenzelezz | wowhead still loads just fine for me |
| 23:34.21 | wobin | WoW Gold Super Shop is a "related sponsor link" =P |
| 23:34.40 | wobin | along with MYOB Stock Control =P |
| 23:34.45 | End | it works fine for me too |
| 23:35.07 | End | although |
| 23:35.33 | Josh_Borke | wowhead: 68.178.232.100 for me |
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| 23:35.44 | Mr_Rabies2 | ooh |
| 23:35.48 | Mr_Rabies2 | it's raining in southshore |
| 23:35.49 | zenzelezz | same here Josh |
| 23:35.53 | wobin | yeah, same here |
| 23:35.55 | End | try 75.126.130.186 |
| 23:36.02 | Josh_Borke | it's back to working now |
| 23:36.05 | Mr_Rabies2 | i forgot how good the weather effects look on azeroth |
| 23:36.10 | Mr_Rabies2 | i miss them in outland |
| 23:36.12 | End | zangarmarsh has rain |
| 23:36.16 | End | (sometimes) |
| 23:36.16 | wobin | End: That goes back to godaddy |
| 23:36.20 | wobin | for me |
| 23:36.23 | End | hmmm |
| 23:36.25 | wobin | I don't miss rain |
| 23:36.29 | End | odd, the ip address worked for me |
| 23:36.31 | Mr_Rabies2 | yeah, zangarmarsh is spitting rain most of the time |
| 23:36.48 | End | oh wow, now it's going to godaddy for me too :( |
| 23:36.58 | End | well, it wasn't broken :P |
| 23:37.06 | ScytheBlade1 | Before the topic 100% dies - is anyone interested in poking around with the beta binaries? |
| 23:37.07 | Mr_Rabies2 | but the azeroth rain has varying levels, and storms and stuff |
| 23:37.24 | Kaydeethree | sure |
| 23:37.48 | ScytheBlade1 | Only one person? I'm disappointed in the channel |
| 23:38.00 | End | ah, it appears connecting directly to the real wowhead ip redirects you to the hostname :P |
| 23:38.22 | Corrodias | i'm going to try bartender again after tonight's raid |
| 23:38.28 | zenzelezz | even clearing my cache and completely reloading wowhead I don't get the wrong page |
| 23:38.39 | ScytheBlade1 | I get wowhead as normal |
| 23:38.42 | Karrion | from my work machine (probably cached), wowhead => 75.126.130.186; from home machine wowhead => 68.178.232.100 (godaddy) |
| 23:39.23 | End | I flushed my dns and I can reach it again |
| 23:39.41 | Karrion | so sometime in the last, hour or so? something weird happened to the upstream dns |
| 23:39.48 | End | probably |
| 23:39.59 | Adys | Accessed wowhead fine about 12 mins ago |
| 23:40.05 | *** part/#wowi-lounge cog|work (n=chatzill@intra.kistlerwine.com) |
| 23:40.13 | Adys | skosiris tells me they fixed it |
| 23:40.13 | Bleeter | what's the windows flush dns again? start->run->command (then wtf?) |
| 23:40.17 | Corrodias | i'm also going to use wow ace updater to convert my libraries to standalone, maybe shaving off some loading time |
| 23:40.20 | End | nslookup /flushdns |
| 23:40.24 | Corrodias | ipconfig /flushdns |
| 23:40.28 | End | er |
| 23:40.31 | End | what Corrodias said |
| 23:40.41 | End | it's ipconfig, ignore what I said :P |
| 23:40.59 | Corrodias | last time i tried bartender, there were some issues with tainting of my xperl frames, but it may be the fault of something other than bartender or xperl, so i need to investigate more closely |
| 23:41.20 | Karrion | dig against my local gives the wrong address, but dig against the authorities gives the right one now |
| 23:41.57 | Mr_Rabies2 | Corr, my standalonelibs install doesn't seem to be helping loading times :[ |
| 23:42.11 | Mr_Rabies2 | i think i'm going to drop it, but it's gonna be a pain to find all these libs and remove them |
| 23:42.26 | Mr_Rabies2 | since afaik you can't UNINSTALL addons in the ace updater |
| 23:42.39 | tardmrr | Mr_Rabies2, you have to disembed libraries from everything else for the standalones to mean jack |
| 23:42.44 | Mr_Rabies2 | yep |
| 23:42.45 | Mr_Rabies2 | i did |
| 23:42.53 | tardmrr | aparently you did something wrong |
| 23:42.53 | Mr_Rabies2 | and it did for a while |
| 23:42.57 | Mr_Rabies2 | but doesn't seem to now |
| 23:43.02 | Corrodias | well, it can't hurt |
| 23:43.05 | tardmrr | ID-TEN-T error |
| 23:43.26 | Corrodias | my UI reload times exceed 30 seconds. is that unusually high? |
| 23:43.30 | Mr_Rabies2 | i guess i should double check and make sure during my constant patching of the updater that externals didn't get turned back on |
| 23:43.37 | Mr_Rabies2 | mine are about 45, corr |
| 23:43.58 | Mr_Rabies2 | i've got like |
| 23:44.04 | Mr_Rabies2 | 200 addon folders now or so |
| 23:44.08 | Mr_Rabies2 | but that's including libs i don't use |
| 23:44.13 | Corrodias | same with mine, approx |
| 23:44.24 | Corrodias | i probably have 30 folders that are disabled in the addons menu |
| 23:44.32 | tardmrr | libs that aren't in use don't load at all |
| 23:44.35 | tardmrr | or so I've heard |
| 23:44.42 | Mr_Rabies2 | most of them |
| 23:44.52 | Mr_Rabies2 | almost all or all now in standalonelibs are LoD |
| 23:44.56 | tardmrr | I haven't verified for myself, but I think they've all been converted to LoD by now |
| 23:45.41 | Corrodias | eh, screw externalizing. for now, i just want to see if i can get Bartender running. |
| 23:46.01 | Industrial | wtf happened to wowhead? (http://wowhead.com) |
| 23:46.13 | Kaydeethree | dns being screwy |
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| 23:46.16 | zenzelezz | welcome to 15 minutes ago Industrial |
| 23:46.26 | Industrial | liekhei |
| 23:46.30 | zenzelezz | if you look up you may notice we've just been discussing it :-) |
| 23:46.32 | Mr_Rabies2 | tardmrr, i just checked, externals are off but load times seem to be the same :[ |
| 23:46.37 | Corrodias | i can save an inch off the right side of my screen if i get a good action bar addon, although i am a little worried about the way things will be less... spread out, easy to find when i glance for them |
| 23:46.41 | Mr_Rabies2 | there used to be a huge difference, but not anymore |
| 23:46.43 | Corrodias | i need some kind of separator between my action bars |
| 23:46.43 | Lunessa | I'm using Bartender 3 - I really like the "Fade Out" feature. |
| 23:47.12 | Mr_Rabies2 | lets see |
| 23:47.18 | Mr_Rabies2 | what's that addon that tracks loading times? |
| 23:47.25 | Kaydeethree | warmup |
| 23:47.48 | Mr_Rabies2 | ah that's it |
| 23:47.48 | Mr_Rabies2 | thanks |
| 23:48.18 | zenzelezz | addons load successively, not concurrently, right? |
| 23:48.29 | tardmrr | aye |
| 23:49.09 | Lunessa | http://i177.photobucket.com/albums/w227/matt_converse/UI_version_2.jpg 1440 x 900 Scale .6, using bartender 3 |
| 23:49.35 | zenzelezz | pretty nice one |
| 23:50.02 | tardmrr | I tried BT3, but I ___HATED___ the configuration |
| 23:50.09 | Corrodias | i don't have a monitor widescreen enough for that |
| 23:50.09 | tardmrr | drop down menus were not meant for that |
| 23:50.14 | Skosiris | No worries guys, the site should be back soon. It's just a DNS/ISP thingy, the site works fine for most people. |
| 23:50.29 | tardmrr | Skosiris is wowhead staff or something? |
| 23:50.39 | Lunessa | Once I figured it out, it wasn't so bad. And there's a Waterfall Niagara config menu for it now |
| 23:50.45 | tardmrr | UGLY |
| 23:50.53 | Corrodias | niagara? |
| 23:50.54 | tardmrr | sorry, I'm very picky |
| 23:50.55 | tardmrr | aye |
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| 23:51.00 | Corrodias | what is that? |
| 23:51.11 | tardmrr | it's what cosmos came up with 2 years ago |
| 23:51.13 | tardmrr | but for Ace |
| 23:51.44 | Corrodias | i don't know any more than i did before you said that |
| 23:51.53 | tardmrr | it's like Khaos |
| 23:51.56 | Thunder_Child | http://files.wowace.com/Niagara/Niagara-r37528.1047.zip |
| 23:51.58 | tardmrr | but less features |
| 23:52.05 | Corrodias | i don't know what khaos is |
| 23:52.10 | Thunder_Child | http://files.wowace.com/Waterfall-1.0/Waterfall-1.0-r40215.zip |
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| 23:52.13 | Lunessa | *shrug* I don't have a stake in the Ace/Ace2/Cosmos/Dongle/Whatever library war. I use the addons I like that do what I want. |
| 23:52.18 | tardmrr | (though, tbh, I always felt the extra features in Khaos were just that "extra") |
| 23:52.22 | Bleeter | Lunessa++ |
| 23:52.29 | zenzelezz | seconded |
| 23:52.44 | tardmrr | I use addons that don't make me puke when I look inside the .lua |
| 23:52.46 | Corrodias | so what is khaos, which niagara is like? |
| 23:52.57 | tardmrr | it's a configuration thing |
| 23:52.59 | zenzelezz | why look inside the .lua if it does what you want? |
| 23:53.08 | tardmrr | because I care how people do things |
| 23:53.14 | Josh_Borke | http://www.wowace.com/wiki/Niagara |
| 23:53.28 | Lunessa | I happen to use several Ace2 once currently - because they're what I want. But I also use a bunch of others that are not Ace2 - for the same reason. |
| 23:53.28 | Josh_Borke | http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info6708-KhaosStandalone.html |
| 23:53.31 | tardmrr | if you do it the most ass-backwards way possible, I don't want that crap running on my system |
| 23:53.55 | Bleeter | so, OT... anyone else play a Hunter who thinks Frenzy should be replaced with something else? Was thinking last night, replace it with something that eg, removes 1 enrage effect |
| 23:54.12 | zenzelezz | I'm not sure it "should", but I wouldn't mind if it did |
| 23:54.12 | Bleeter | 'coz having one spell that's solely for one mob that no-one ever sees anymore is just madness, imo |
| 23:54.21 | Josh_Borke | Corrodias: that help? |
| 23:54.29 | Corrodias | reading |
| 23:54.51 | zenzelezz | Bleeter: oh, you mean the Frenzy effect on mobs, not the talent? |
| 23:54.55 | Corrodias | ah, a centralized configuration panel for multiple addons to use |
| 23:54.57 | Josh_Borke | but pictures say 1000 words! |
| 23:55.04 | tardmrr | Corrodias, aye |
| 23:55.09 | tardmrr | I like the idea in general |
| 23:55.18 | Josh_Borke | this whole tardmrr is bugging me :-P |
| 23:55.29 | Josh_Borke | how do you pronounce tardmrr anyway? |
| 23:55.34 | tardmrr | you don't |
| 23:55.39 | Bleeter | zenzelezz: yeah, frenzy on mobs and the hunter 'tranquilising shot' thing |
| 23:55.39 | tardmrr | you say "tard" |
| 23:55.44 | Josh_Borke | like retard? |
| 23:55.48 | tardmrr | aye |
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| 23:55.56 | zenzelezz | Bleeter: to be fair it was slightly more than one mob, and I thought someone said you could also use tranq shot on the last dragon in Black Morass... but yes, the spell still seems a little uncommonly used |
| 23:55.56 | Josh_Borke | so colud i add the re to the front? |
| 23:56.00 | tardmrr | no |
| 23:56.29 | Bleeter | zenzelezz: hmm, will ahve to keep an eye out for 'frenzy effect' in BM |
| 23:56.37 | Bleeter | don't recall seeing it to be honest |
| 23:56.46 | zenzelezz | I only heard it mentioned, don't know if it's true |
| 23:56.56 | zenzelezz | haven't played my hunter in instances |
| 23:57.21 | Corrodias | looks like we might be short a couple people for the second kara group so i might get to start working on configuring addons right away :P |
| 23:57.29 | Josh_Borke | bye all |
| 23:57.29 | Lunessa | I wonder how long it will be before old content like MC, BWL, etc get 're-tuned.' |
| 23:57.44 | Bleeter | hopefully before end of this year |
| 23:57.47 | zenzelezz | Bleeter: checked, the Wiki does say you can tranq shot Aeonus when he goes into a Frenzy (as he does occasionally) |
| 23:57.57 | tardmrr | I hope never |
| 23:58.03 | tardmrr | I really don't wanna do BWL or MC again |
| 23:58.27 | zenzelezz | they're re-tuning the old 40-mans? In what way? |
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| 23:58.35 | Bleeter | hmm, well, what are they gunna do @ Blizzcon. ZulAman will keep the masses interested for about 30 mins |
| 23:58.39 | Lunessa | Seeing as I only ever got to do a little of MC, ZG, and AQ, I'd like to see more of them.. just to see them. |
| 23:58.39 | Bleeter | lots of blank time to fill in |
| 23:58.54 | tardmrr | Starcraft 2 much? |
| 23:59.14 | Bleeter | I'd like to see some 62+ Azeroth content |
| 23:59.16 | zenzelezz | Lunessa: I know what you mean, I never got to see most of Naxx either :-| |
| 23:59.18 | Bleeter | world content, that is |
| 23:59.20 | Lunessa | zenzelezz: I am just musing. I have heard no plans. |
| 23:59.21 | Corrodias | it's entirely possible to go back and do MC with a few level 70 people (10? 15?). it just still takes time. |
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| 23:59.35 | tardmrr | I heard 5 could do it |
| 23:59.49 | Lunessa | I still want Polymorph:Turtle for my mage. |
| 23:59.53 | tardmrr | yeah me too |
| 23:59.56 | Mr_Rabies2 | it's so awesome |
