| 00:00.06 | Corrodias | fix it, zenz |
| 00:00.30 | zenzelezz | I was the one that took it down, bwahaha |
| 00:13.36 | Corrodias | bah, persistent spell effects again |
| 00:13.42 | Corrodias | i need to reboot after the raid |
| 00:13.42 | zenzelezz | ..? |
| 00:14.07 | zenzelezz | oh, visual? |
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| 01:27.54 | Corrodias | our first shade of aran attempt |
| 01:28.05 | Corrodias | somebody moves during flame wreath, we're interrupting every fourth spell or something... |
| 01:28.26 | zenzelezz | hehehe |
| 01:28.40 | zenzelezz | sounds like our first time |
| 01:30.08 | chuckg | Corrodias: http://shadeofaranchant.ytmnd.com/ |
| 01:30.20 | Corrodias | i know |
| 01:30.24 | Corrodias | some priest hasn't heard that chant |
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| 01:32.58 | Corrodias | i ran back and i'm the first to get to the door |
| 01:33.04 | Corrodias | by 15 seconds! |
| 01:33.39 | Corrodias | and the hunter trails the rest of us by 30 seconds on his own. *facepalm* |
| 01:34.39 | Corrodias | my framerate drops to crap when blizzard is going on :) |
| 01:45.34 | Corrodias | our hunter wasn't sure if he was supposed to interrupt fireball |
| 01:45.50 | Corrodias | it'll be 5 tries (we're up to 3) before everyone remembers what they're supposed to do, much less figuring out how to do it |
| 01:45.58 | Corrodias | *figure |
| 01:49.08 | Corrodias | but we ARE getting better |
| 01:49.12 | Corrodias | 37% that time |
| 01:49.16 | zenzelezz | :) |
| 01:49.35 | Corrodias | and we got mass polyd while all four elementals beat on us |
| 01:49.49 | zenzelezz | hehe, bad timing |
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| 01:54.38 | zenzelezz | before 2.1 my guild used to let him hit 0 mana at ~41-42% so everyone would be at full health when the adds spawned; not sure if they still do that |
| 01:59.44 | N00bZXI | When'd your guild start kara? |
| 02:00.22 | zenzelezz | which one of us? |
| 02:00.28 | Corrodias | i dunno, a couple of months ago |
| 02:00.49 | N00bZXI | GL with shade :) |
| 02:01.28 | Corrodias | thanks. 27% that time. |
| 02:01.55 | N00bZXI | Before I joined the guild I'm currently in it took us about a week to down shade |
| 02:02.06 | N00bZXI | Only thing that took longer was prince, never did down him, cause our tank got one-shotted |
| 02:02.17 | zenzelezz | ouch |
| 02:02.32 | zenzelezz | in which phase did he get one-shotted? |
| 02:02.37 | N00bZXI | Phase 2 |
| 02:02.51 | N00bZXI | We were also using the door trick before we knew it was an exploit |
| 02:03.09 | zenzelezz | last week we had hell doing Prince... every single time the infernals landed in bad spots |
| 02:03.48 | zenzelezz | I (the tank) only died one out of ten times in phase 2, the rest were phase 3 wipes when we simply couldn't avoid the infernals enough |
| 02:04.18 | N00bZXI | How much HP does your tank have? |
| 02:05.53 | zenzelezz | hm, I'm about 12500 unbuffed, add shout, fortitude and kings and I guess I'm at about 14-something |
| 02:06.19 | N00bZXI | Our tank had more than that, and we only made it to phase3 3 times :\ |
| 02:06.35 | zenzelezz | well, it gets easier once you're used to it of course |
| 02:06.48 | N00bZXI | Our tank kept getting oneshotted in phase3 |
| 02:06.56 | N00bZXI | Phase2* |
| 02:06.57 | zenzelezz | but in phase 2 he can easily burn shield block seconds before it's off CD so he can land a crushing blow |
| 02:07.19 | zenzelezz | doesn't take more than a little bad luck in that fight |
| 02:09.16 | N00bZXI | My opinion is luck should not be a major factor in any fight |
| 02:09.28 | zenzelezz | I totally agree, I hate the Prince fight |
| 02:09.38 | N00bZXI | I hear Vashj's worse. |
| 02:09.39 | Cide- | I love it |
| 02:09.48 | zenzelezz | I accept *some* level of luck, but not that much, skill should be able to outweigh luck |
| 02:09.50 | Cide- | it's fun |
| 02:09.59 | Cide- | it does, zenzelezz |
| 02:10.03 | Cide- | we haven't wiped to prince for 6 weeks |
| 02:11.17 | Corrodias | and aran wipes the floor with us again |
| 02:11.19 | zenzelezz | I'll confess it's hard for me to fully see what's going on when tanking, since the god damn camera clips at the wall and my screen is full of demon; but from the infernals I saw last week I don't think skill could outweigh it |
| 02:12.15 | zenzelezz | not in those cases at least |
| 02:13.10 | N00bZXI | You could increase max camera distance |
| 02:13.22 | N00bZXI | And zoom out quite a bit |
| 02:13.29 | zenzelezz | sideways only |
| 02:13.36 | zenzelezz | it'd still clip in the direction I want to soom out |
| 02:13.37 | zenzelezz | *zoom |
| 02:14.45 | N00bZXI | The other problem with prince is he wouldn't reset sometimes |
| 02:14.52 | N00bZXI | So to reset him we'd have to bring a mob near him and wipe the raied |
| 02:17.05 | zenzelezz | heh, Gruul bugged slightly for us today after a wipe, the gate to his room wouldn't open... think someone was DIed inside... eventually they aggroed him and he came charging after the rest of us outside his room :-| |
| 02:20.23 | ScytheBlade1 | zenzelezz, SAME thing right now |
| 02:20.29 | ScytheBlade1 | Only in this case, he didn't aggro us |
| 02:20.32 | ScytheBlade1 | Door shut, didn't open |
| 02:20.34 | ScytheBlade1 | Had to soft reset |
| 02:21.13 | N00bZXI | My current guild hasn't started Gruul yet due to lack of numbers (Nightbane down two weeks after starting kara, though :D) |
| 02:22.21 | zenzelezz | that's quite a good job |
| 02:23.30 | Corrodias | yeah... we're pathetic |
| 02:24.33 | zenzelezz | not exactly what I meant |
| 02:24.33 | Tain | New kitten! http://www.crushingdreams.com/gallery/albums/userpics/normal_DSC_1535.jpg |
| 02:25.03 | zenzelezz | aww, grats |
| 02:25.04 | zenzelezz | name? |
| 02:25.04 | Corrodias | god, we sucked against aran |
| 02:25.55 | Tain | Haven't named her yet. |
| 02:26.35 | Cairenn | awwww, kittie! |
| 02:26.42 | JoshBorke | what do you call a pet you haven't named? |
| 02:27.44 | JoshBorke | btw, cute kitty tain |
| 02:28.12 | Tain | Well she's six weeks old. My cousin's cat had a litter. My cousin was calling her Davinci, her daughter was calling her Wolfie. |
| 02:28.48 | zenzelezz | I prefer Wolfie over Davinci |
| 02:29.12 | Thunder_Child | i prefered "Kitty Tain" |
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| 02:34.24 | JoshBorke | purl, whip kergoth |
| 02:34.31 | purl | ACTION takes kergoth outside to be thoroughly whipped by joshborke |
| 02:36.16 | Tem | Davinci is an awesome name |
| 02:37.06 | Tain | I actually like Davinci but not for a girl kitty. |
| 02:37.10 | Kirkburn|sleep | Kitty! :D |
| 02:37.39 | Kirkburn|sleep | MonaLisa? :P |
| 02:39.43 | Corrodias | well, we spent about 2 hours on our first ever 4 or 5 Aran attempts and got him to 27% once |
| 02:39.47 | Corrodias | not terrible |
| 02:40.13 | Corrodias | except that the whole fight is decided after 40% |
| 02:40.16 | zenzelezz | I'd say it's not bad at all for your first time |
| 02:40.24 | Corrodias | so that's like less than half |
| 02:43.48 | JoshBorke | nn |
| 02:44.05 | Cairenn | night JoshBorke, sweet dreams |
| 02:44.10 | JoshBorke | same to you |
| 02:44.13 | JoshBorke | how's therapy going btw? |
| 02:44.16 | JoshBorke | getting better yet? |
| 02:44.22 | Cairenn | yeah, coming along, finally |
| 02:45.37 | JoshBorke | glad to hear :-) take care |
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| 02:49.47 | Tain | The Robot Chicken Star Wars thing was really funny. |
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| 05:12.22 | Shirik | Cairenn: ? |
| 05:12.28 | Shirik | 222:442:50 12‹JoshBorke12› how's therapy going btw? |
| 05:12.44 | Cairenn | the physiotherapy, from my car accident in Feb |
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| 05:16.29 | bleeter | s/physiotherapy/psychotherapy/ |
| 05:16.41 | bleeter | s/my car accident in Feb/putting up with you lot/ |
| 05:16.59 | bleeter | Cairenn: good to hear :) |
| 05:17.08 | Cairenn | lol |
| 05:17.34 | Cairenn | and on that silly note - night guys |
| 05:17.48 | zenzelezz | I agree, sleep is silly |
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| 05:29.27 | ScytheBlade1 | k... Lua theory question.. |
| 05:29.33 | ScytheBlade1 | if ((a or b) and c) then |
| 05:29.57 | ScytheBlade1 | If a and b are both true (and c), it'll fire, right? |
| 05:30.06 | bleeter | nn Cairenn|afk rest well |
| 05:30.33 | Tem | lua> (true or true) and true |
| 05:30.53 | ScytheBlade1 | That's pretty much my question.. and that's the only bug I can see in my code here |
| 05:30.57 | ScytheBlade1 | It makes no sense at all |
| 05:34.44 | Thunder_Child | what doesnt make any sense? |
| 05:35.06 | ScytheBlade1 | This retarded bug |
| 05:35.20 | ScytheBlade1 | The addon is simple: recurses through your bags for conjured items, and nukes them |
| 05:35.30 | ScytheBlade1 | To find conjured items, it has to scan the tooltip, which I have working |
| 05:35.36 | Thunder_Child | to free up space? |
| 05:35.46 | ScytheBlade1 | For two of the three versions of the warlock healthstone, it finds them, throws the itemId into the table, it works |
| 05:35.53 | ScytheBlade1 | But ONE rank of the healthstone is not picked up |
| 05:36.05 | ScytheBlade1 | And I cannot figure out why in the crap it's even slightly different |
| 05:36.17 | Thunder_Child | but its the same formula and all that jaz? |
| 05:36.26 | ScytheBlade1 | Yup |
| 05:37.19 | ScytheBlade1 | if ((GameTooltipTextLeft1:GetText() ~= DC.LastItemName or (DC.LastTime - GetTime() > 0.4)) and GameTooltipTextLeft2:GetText() == "Conjured Item") then |
| 05:39.16 | Thunder_Child | hmm..that means one of the stones escapes the perameters....i guess |
| 05:39.47 | Thunder_Child | there are more than 3 though |
| 05:39.53 | ScytheBlade1 | DC.LastItemName is the last item name it scanned (TextLeft1) |
| 05:40.09 | ScytheBlade1 | Time is just a time, as it fires some times 12+ times per tooltip, destroying performance |
| 05:40.25 | Thunder_Child | you said 2/3...but there are more than 3 |
| 05:40.34 | ScytheBlade1 | Two of the three ranks I was carrying |
| 05:40.41 | Thunder_Child | ah, which one did it miss? |
| 05:40.43 | ScytheBlade1 | itemId 22104 |
| 05:40.54 | ScytheBlade1 | No differences in comparison to the others aside from the rank |
| 05:40.57 | ScytheBlade1 | And I'm utterly confused |
| 05:42.21 | Thunder_Child | ~= is roughly equal to? |
| 05:42.22 | purl | Thunder_Child: what are you talking about? |
| 05:42.30 | Thunder_Child | heh |
| 05:42.32 | Esamynn | ~= is not equal |
| 05:42.33 | purl | Esamynn: I think you lost me on that one |
| 05:42.44 | Esamynn | purl, I wasn't talking to you |
| 05:42.45 | purl | You wasn't talking to you? |
| 05:42.51 | ScytheBlade1 | Is not equal to |
| 05:42.55 | Thunder_Child | damn...messing up languages |
| 05:44.23 | ScytheBlade1 | argh |
| 05:44.31 | Thunder_Child | well i seem to get everything but ((GameTooltipTextLeft1:GetText() ~= DC.LastItemName |
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| 05:45.14 | Thunder_Child | are you saying this item not equal to last item? |
| 05:45.20 | zenzelezz | I assume he's checking that the tooltip isn't for the same item he already checked |
| 05:45.22 | ScytheBlade1 | To the last item I scanned |
| 05:45.24 | ScytheBlade1 | Yup |
| 05:45.32 | Thunder_Child | so if you scan 2 of them in a row? |
| 05:45.40 | Thunder_Child | it would be = right? |
| 05:45.52 | ScytheBlade1 | Yeah |
| 05:45.56 | Thunder_Child | so it would fail... |
| 05:45.59 | ScytheBlade1 | If I wave my mouse over ten stacks of water |
| 05:46.07 | ScytheBlade1 | It only scans one (unless the DC.LastTime checks out) |
| 05:46.26 | Thunder_Child | i see |
| 05:48.00 | ScytheBlade1 | Before I threw in the LastItem and Time checks |
| 05:48.07 | ScytheBlade1 | Waving my mouse between two items dropped my FPS by 30-40 |
| 05:48.18 | Thunder_Child | niec... |
| 05:48.23 | Thunder_Child | nice* |
| 05:48.35 | ScytheBlade1 | There is a reason those checks are in :) |
| 05:48.51 | Thunder_Child | what if the first () resturns false? |
| 05:49.07 | Thunder_Child | returns* |
| 05:49.26 | ScytheBlade1 | Er? |
| 05:50.14 | Thunder_Child | ((= or (<0.4)) and == conjured |
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| 06:58.00 | Mr_Rabies2 | argh i can't wait for blizzcon :< |
| 06:58.08 | bleeter | haha, I'm a belf wearing [Tabard of the Protector] (transporter malfunction) |
| 06:58.29 | bleeter | Mr_Rabies2: pass out for a few days, it'll get here much quicker ;) |
| 06:58.43 | Mr_Rabies2 | brb eating a bottle of benadryl |
| 06:58.49 | bleeter | k |
| 06:58.56 | Thunder_Child | i dunno, i'm excited about itm but i dont see the need for it now |
| 06:59.04 | Mr_Rabies2 | and washing it down with a gallon of tequila |
| 06:59.05 | Thunder_Child | s/itm/it/ |
| 06:59.23 | Mr_Rabies2 | the need is hopefully announcing wow expansion 2 |
| 06:59.25 | Mr_Rabies2 | :O |
| 06:59.40 | Thunder_Child | i doubt your even done with one yet |
| 06:59.46 | Thunder_Child | s/one/1/ |
| 06:59.53 | Mr_Rabies2 | that doesn't matter |
| 06:59.53 | Thunder_Child | .... |
| 07:00.04 | bleeter | lawl |
| 07:00.07 | Mr_Rabies2 | AQ was ingame in alpha :O |
| 07:00.27 | Mr_Rabies2 | BWL was almost finished before MC was even nearly finished |
| 07:00.32 | Thunder_Child | what does that have to do with anything? |
| 07:00.46 | Thunder_Child | your not done with what you have NOW |
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| 07:00.53 | zenzelezz | so? |
| 07:00.53 | Mr_Rabies2 | order of development and release rarely coincide :O |
| 07:01.05 | Mr_Rabies2 | at least with blizzard |
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| 07:01.18 | Mr_Rabies2 | there's not much left to add to bc,really |
| 07:01.19 | Thunder_Child | so, why bother hoping for something new when you havent finished what your currently working on |
| 07:01.20 | zenzelezz | since when did you have to finish something to be excited about new stuff? |
| 07:01.27 | Mr_Rabies2 | Zul'Aman is about it |
| 07:01.45 | Thunder_Child | i prefer to get excited about an SC2 beta key |
| 07:01.53 | Thunder_Child | vs a wow2 beta key |
| 07:02.10 | Mr_Rabies2 | i don't care about beta as much as i do features |
| 07:02.14 | Mr_Rabies2 | like, location, etc |
| 07:02.38 | Thunder_Child | eh, i was always more about the interacting than the hearing of, or watching of |
| 07:02.41 | Mr_Rabies2 | they said they're planning to release a new one every year |
| 07:03.11 | Mr_Rabies2 | so they'll probably release the next one around this time next year |
| 07:03.25 | Mr_Rabies2 | so blizzcon would likely be a good time to announce it |
| 07:04.37 | Mr_Rabies2 | i'm done with most of BC that i'm interested in |
| 07:04.55 | Mr_Rabies2 | i mean, i'll likely never even see gruul or magtheridon, but i'm fine with that |
| 07:06.16 | Mr_Rabies2 | sure, i would like to see everything up to illidan, but i'm a realist |
| 07:08.46 | Thunder_Child | pfft realism |
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| 07:32.34 | Shirik|zZz | Night. |
| 07:32.41 | |Jelly| | lol |
| 07:32.59 | Elkano | ^^ |
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| 08:30.10 | Nom- | <sarcasm> |
| 08:30.12 | Nom- | what a shame |
| 08:30.18 | Nom- | We can't get a 1TB SAN any more |
| 08:30.28 | Nom- | So we have to get a 6TB SAN instead |
| 08:30.31 | Nom- | </sarcasm> |
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| 09:22.13 | AnduinLothar | What's the default AceConsole confirm dialog text? |
| 09:23.36 | AnduinLothar | nm |
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| 09:36.11 | Nom- | We needed more disk space, phyber :) |
| 09:36.28 | phyber | push delete butanz! |
| 09:36.38 | phyber | ;) |
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| 12:17.27 | sag_ich_nicht | meh |
| 12:17.34 | sag_ich_nicht | when did shirik go to sleep? :O |
| 12:17.45 | |Jelly| | Umm. |
| 12:17.53 | |Jelly| | 2:32 |
| 12:18.20 | sag_ich_nicht | uh-hu, and i'm in a different timzone so tell me what time it is now in your tiemzone |
| 12:18.28 | |Jelly| | 7:18 |
| 12:18.35 | sag_ich_nicht | okay. |
| 12:18.36 | sag_ich_nicht | thanks |
| 12:18.56 | [dRaCo] | ~seen shirik |
| 12:19.06 | purl | shirik <n=nospam@mckay32-75.resnet.db.erau.edu> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowi-lounge, 7h 6m 38s ago, saying: '222:442:50 12‹JoshBorke12› how's therapy going btw?'. |
| 12:19.06 | [dRaCo] | ... |
| 12:19.45 | |Jelly| | *cough* [02:32]<Shirik|zZz>{#wowi-lounge} Night. |
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| 13:09.57 | |Jelly| | Morning Cog |
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| 13:10.06 | |Jelly| | PEPPY! |
| 13:10.22 | Lopeppeppy | |Jelly|, are you one of those morning people? *laugh* |
| 13:10.23 | cogwheel | morning |
| 13:10.37 | |Jelly| | No. I hate the morning. I however have been up for six hours now. |
| 13:10.49 | |Jelly| | So, technically...it's like 2pm to me. |
| 13:12.30 | |Jelly| | lol |
| 13:12.36 | Lopeppeppy | Morning, cogwheel. |
| 13:12.54 | Lopeppeppy | I've been awake 4 hours, mobile 2, and sane for about 30 minutes. |
| 13:13.03 | |Jelly| | lol |
| 13:13.39 | AnduinLothar | sag_ich_nicht: ping |
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| 13:15.01 | |Jelly| | Morning Clad |
| 13:15.05 | cladhaire | o hai |
| 13:15.09 | Lopeppeppy | See, even cladhaire was still asleep, I'm not alone! |
| 13:15.14 | cladhaire | scraping buffed.de is slow =/ |
| 13:15.40 | Cairenn|afk | ~mornings |
| 13:15.41 | purl | Mornings MUST be destroyed! (see also http://www.destroymornings.com/) |
| 13:16.01 | Cairenn|afk | ~today |
| 13:16.01 | purl | today is probably may the forth be with you |
| 13:16.59 | Josh_Borke | morning clad |
| 13:17.03 | cladhaire | morning |
| 13:17.18 | Lopeppeppy | Shipping to Canada can be such a serious PITA. I need a new best friend. |
| 13:17.29 | |Jelly| | lol |
| 13:17.36 | Cairenn|afk | <== Canuck |
| 13:17.41 | cogwheel | shipping wine to Canada is even more of a PITA |
| 13:17.54 | |Jelly| | <-- Texan without Health Insurance; wanna trade? 8P |
| 13:18.38 | Lopeppeppy | It's just little bitty books.... Cairenn, tell me the secret to effective communication with the Border Patrol? |
| 13:19.05 | Cairenn|afk | *laugh* yeah, right, you think they communicate? |
| 13:20.38 | Lopeppeppy | They did when I was a kid, I lived on the NYS/Canada border, it was great. I think I must have forgotten a lot of things from back then! |
| 13:20.52 | Cairenn|afk | :) |
| 13:21.10 | Cairenn|afk | actually, it isn't the border patrol that is the problem |
| 13:21.28 | Cairenn|afk | it's Revenue Canada / IRS |
| 13:21.51 | Cairenn|afk | and you KNOW there's no talking to them :p |
| 13:22.17 | |Jelly| | Whew. I thought the world was going to implode there for a second. |
| 13:22.43 | Lopeppeppy | It still is, |Jelly|. |
| 13:22.51 | Cairenn|afk | Government Accountants? not a chance you can get them to pass up on a chance to get money |
| 13:23.03 | |Jelly| | No it's not. I just accidently unplugged my ipod as opposed to it being b0rk3 |
| 13:24.28 | Lopeppeppy | Dead iPod would equal a disaster, that's for sure. It's my only sanity in the workplace. |
| 13:27.32 | |Jelly| | bleh. |
| 13:27.37 | |Jelly| | Shattered Halls : / |
| 13:28.33 | Lopeppeppy | I had a worse time in Shadow Labs than Shattered Halls, honestly. |
| 13:28.44 | Lopeppeppy | I'd pluck out my eyes rather than see Shadow Labs again. |
| 13:28.49 | |Jelly| | Well, in the end...I hate BM more than anything evAr |
| 13:29.04 | subbawt | i loved BM |
| 13:29.25 | subbawt | it's quick and easy, with no bs |
| 13:29.25 | Lopeppeppy | True... that was a bit of a pain to complete. "Why did you let me die?" "Well, because you ran out of range, and there's only one of me?" |
| 13:29.26 | |Jelly| | I can't seem to find a group that can control the adds without everything going to hell. |
| 13:29.37 | |Jelly| | Exactly. |
| 13:29.58 | Lopeppeppy | Pally healing the Timestop is.... unique. |
| 13:30.07 | subbawt | I probably ran BM 15 times in one day |
| 13:30.19 | subbawt | helping a friend farm for hourglass |
| 13:30.21 | |Jelly| | screw all that |
| 13:30.25 | Kaso | I love my guild BM runs, one time we did a 3 shadowpriest 1 warlock 1 warrior run which was awesome. |
| 13:30.44 | Kaso | the warrior went afk for three portals and it was fine, the VE healing was so much the priests could tank |
| 13:30.44 | subbawt | this was several months ago, though |
| 13:30.47 | subbawt | you couldn't pay me to run it now |
| 13:31.04 | |Jelly| | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:31.04 | Lopeppeppy | I can see it working with a lot of different class combinations... and bandages. Yup, bandages. |
| 13:31.12 | |Jelly| | Only time I run it is to help guildies get keyed |
| 13:32.27 | Lopeppeppy | I've done it so many times to get people keyed... gets frustrating that my class is on the hardest attendance rotation, and I'm helping other people be able to attend. |
| 13:33.08 | |Jelly| | so reroll something useful 8P |
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| 13:35.45 | Lopeppeppy | I did that for the group for MC, to give them a paladin officer. *tragic sigh* If neither my rogue nor my paladin are needed, I don't know what else to roll for us. |
| 13:36.52 | |Jelly| | puh @ paladins |
| 13:37.16 | Lopeppeppy | I know... all are suxxors. |
| 13:37.28 | |Jelly| | <- holy priest <3 |
| 13:39.25 | Lopeppeppy | I know.... |
| 13:39.37 | |Jelly| | don't elipsis at me! 8P |
| 13:41.29 | Lopeppeppy | *shrug* Can't help the class balance on my server, ya do what ya gotta to survive. |
| 13:42.33 | Shirik|zZz | sag_ich_nicht: My timezone means nothing |
| 13:42.43 | Shirik|zZz | my sleep schedule is so jacked up nobody will be able to figure it out |
| 13:42.52 | |Jelly| | me too! |
| 13:44.13 | foxlit | How does a for ... in string.gmatch(str, pat) do handle modifying str inside the loop? |
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| 13:46.12 | Shirik|AFK | technically it's undefined |
| 13:46.26 | Shirik|AFK | however |
| 13:47.13 | Shirik|AFK | since it returns an iterator, etc. |
| 13:47.24 | Shirik|AFK | I'm going to assume that it will not affect the results |
| 13:47.40 | Shirik|AFK | changing any parameters of a for loop during the loop makes the behavior undefined, though |
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| 13:55.18 | TS|Skrom | morning |
| 13:55.45 | Josh_Borke | ohaiyo |
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| 14:04.09 | Shirik|Ecole | =( |
| 14:04.15 | Shirik|Ecole | did something bad happen? |
| 14:04.21 | |Jelly| | ? |
| 14:04.25 | Shirik|Ecole | " Channel Rules: Treat each other with respect and courtesy, or leave." |
| 14:04.26 | TS|Skrom | well it IS monday |
| 14:04.28 | Shirik|Ecole | instead of the common joke |
| 14:04.43 | Josh_Borke | Shirik|Ecole: you're slow |
| 14:04.48 | Shirik|Ecole | I know! |
| 14:04.55 | |Jelly| | *shrug* I didn't know it was changed |
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| 14:05.04 | TS|Skrom | Josh_Borke that wasn't nice or courtous! |
| 14:05.14 | Josh_Borke | TS|Skrom: you're slower! |
| 14:05.25 | Josh_Borke | /flex |
| 14:05.27 | Shirik|Ecole | by channel rules |
| 14:05.27 | TS|Skrom | *sob sob* it's true, it's so true |
| 14:05.32 | Shirik|Ecole | Josh_Borke has to leave now |
| 14:05.36 | Shirik|Ecole | cya |
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| 14:05.40 | Shirik|Ecole | lol |
| 14:05.41 | Lopeppeppy | It's International Panic Day, does that help? http://holidayinsights.com/moreholidays/June/intlpanicday.htm |
| 14:05.42 | TS|Skrom | hah |
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| 14:07.01 | Shirik|Ecole | =( I can't even invite him back |
| 14:07.02 | Shirik|Ecole | 14(1011:0611:5314) 11-› #wowi-lounge: You need to be a channel operator to do that |
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| 14:08.16 | Lopeppeppy | Yay! |
| 14:08.28 | Josh_Borke | i guess now i have to show respect and courtesy |
| 14:08.37 | Josh_Borke | Shirik|Ecole: i think you're slow, but that's only my opinion |
| 14:09.03 | Shirik|Ecole | I do not agree with your opinion, but I agree that you have the right to express it. |
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| 14:09.13 | Josh_Borke | i'm glad we agree i'm right |
| 14:09.23 | Shirik|Ecole | >.> |
| 14:09.29 | TS|Skrom | XD |
| 14:09.38 | Josh_Borke | /flex |
| 14:10.07 | Shirik|Ecole | hm, watching CNN |
| 14:10.30 | Shirik|Ecole | "Police bust pedophelia ring of 700 internet suspects" |
| 14:10.56 | Shirik|Ecole | always glad when I see something good on the news :/ break from all the "xx died, yy died" crap |
| 14:16.51 | Shirik|Ecole | lol |Jelly| |
| 14:16.56 | |Jelly| | ? |
| 14:17.01 | Shirik|Ecole | first 5 priorities in life are always you? |
| 14:17.18 | |Jelly| | ...generally speaking |
| 14:17.37 | Cairenn|afk | can anyone remember the addy for that lovely generic C&D? |
| 14:18.18 | lolinternet | [15:13] <+AnduinLothar> sag_ich_nicht: ping <--pong |
| 14:19.12 | lolinternet | [15:42] <Shirik|zZz> sag_ich_nicht: My timezone means nothing <--i asked for Jellys timezone so i could actually get any use out of the timestamp he gave me so i could take a guess to how long you would sleep |
| 14:19.32 | Josh_Borke | C&D? |
| 14:20.06 | Shirik|Ecole | constructor and destructor |
| 14:20.11 | Shirik|Ecole | but they don't exist in Lua, Cairenn|afk, sorry |
| 14:20.15 | sag_ich_nicht | AnduinLothar: oh i see what you did there, i'll try it out |
| 14:20.16 | sag_ich_nicht | :O |
| 14:20.20 | Cairenn|afk | cease & desist |
| 14:20.25 | Josh_Borke | lol |
| 14:20.35 | Josh_Borke | Shirik|Ecole: you're WRONG! |
| 14:20.40 | Shirik|Ecole | I'm never wrong |
| 14:20.45 | sag_ich_nicht | Shirik|Ecole: which part of RDX is enGB "depedant"? :O |
| 14:20.49 | Shirik|Ecole | heh |
| 14:20.54 | Shirik|Ecole | a lot tbh >< |
| 14:20.55 | sag_ich_nicht | +n |
| 14:20.57 | Shirik|Ecole | I'm working on that |
| 14:21.03 | Shirik|Ecole | actually it's enEN |
| 14:21.04 | Josh_Borke | Cairenn|afk: http://www.utsystem.edu/OGC/INTELLECTUALPROPERTY/contract/cease.htm |
| 14:21.22 | Josh_Borke | sag_ich_nicht: dependent ;-) |
| 14:21.31 | Josh_Borke | Cairenn|afk: perhaps? |
| 14:21.31 | sag_ich_nicht | Josh_Borke: [16:20] <sag_ich_nicht> +n |
| 14:21.37 | Cairenn|afk | thanks |
| 14:21.45 | sag_ich_nicht | oh, typo'd on the e as well |
| 14:21.48 | Josh_Borke | Cairenn|afk: i pulled it from the wikipedia site |
| 14:21.51 | sag_ich_nicht | work is making me dizzy >< |
| 14:21.52 | Cairenn|afk | *nod* |
| 14:22.00 | Josh_Borke | purl, restrain sag_ich_nicht |
| 14:22.29 | Shirik|Ecole | sag_ich_nicht: I have a feeling v11 will be released with localization |
| 14:22.29 | sag_ich_nicht | Josh_Borke: I'm a paladin. he can't restrain me :O! |
| 14:22.44 | Josh_Borke | sag_ich_nicht: he just has to wait 12 seconds and try again! |
| 14:22.55 | Cairenn|afk | thanks guys |
| 14:22.58 | Josh_Borke | Cairenn|afk: <3 |
| 14:22.59 | TS|Skrom | 16 with talents! |
| 14:23.03 | sag_ich_nicht | Josh_Borke: no, because I play retribution, i can double stun him :O |
| 14:23.13 | sag_ich_nicht | (well, stun and sap :P)# |
| 14:23.15 | Josh_Borke | repent doesn't work on robots! |
| 14:23.16 | sag_ich_nicht | -# |
| 14:23.21 | sag_ich_nicht | well |
| 14:23.39 | sag_ich_nicht | i can still use my hearthstone |
| 14:23.40 | Shirik|Ecole | What the jack was M$ smoking when they decided to make adware |
| 14:23.42 | Josh_Borke | besides, i was just trying to help, didn't want you to fall over |
| 14:23.43 | sag_ich_nicht | and robots can't be a priest |
| 14:23.51 | sag_ich_nicht | :O |
| 14:23.56 | Josh_Borke | from being dizzy |
| 14:23.57 | Shirik|Ecole | "Hey, let's pop up the same message every 15 minutes over and over again until they click yes!" |
| 14:24.05 | TS|Skrom | Tell that to Father NutsNBolts |
| 14:24.14 | Josh_Borke | lol |
| 14:25.04 | sag_ich_nicht | Shirik|Ecole: i'm asking because I just might use the RPC protocol to make a small addon for some people I know(because they are too damn lazy to re-write the addon they used for it :P) |
| 14:25.15 | sag_ich_nicht | anyway |
| 14:25.19 | sag_ich_nicht | i'm going to drive home now |
| 14:26.09 | Lopeppeppy | Blind, Sap, Vanish.... *yawn* Just feed him breakfast, that will occupy him for a while. |
| 14:26.54 | |Jelly| | I want breakfast 8( |
| 14:27.04 | Josh_Borke | i'm ready for lunch |
| 14:28.27 | TS|Skrom | it made me giggle inside when I saw the thread titled: Custom Funcion Problem -- I immediately thought: "Well of course it won't work..." |
| 14:28.41 | Shirik|Ecole | I'm eating breakfast :D |
| 14:28.46 | Shirik|Ecole | potatoes, eggs, and french toast |
| 14:28.49 | Shirik|Ecole | want some? |
| 14:28.57 | |Jelly| | Waffles |
| 14:29.05 | Shirik|Ecole | no waffles |
| 14:29.09 | TS|Skrom | Jelly you plugged cladhaire's book :P |
| 14:29.10 | Shirik|Ecole | waffles are wednesdays |
| 14:29.32 | |Jelly| | It is my opnin that your breakfast fails. |
| 14:29.39 | |Jelly| | opinion too |
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| 14:33.14 | Shirik|Ecole | gah |
| 14:33.22 | Shirik|Ecole | I'm like those anime guys |
| 14:33.29 | Shirik|Ecole | I eat a full table of food in like 5 seconds |
| 14:33.49 | Shirik|Ecole | and then my stomach hurts for the next hour lol |
| 14:34.07 | Lopeppeppy | I'm like an anime mouse, one bite of crumb at a time. |
| 14:34.30 | |Jelly| | lol |
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| 14:53.15 | |Jelly|Coooookie | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kYvZnTFpip0 <3 (cursing..) |
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| 14:57.26 | Shirik|Ecole | ? |
| 14:57.49 | |Jelly|Coooookie | I'm going to meander into the kitchen and work up something edible. |
| 14:58.37 | Lopeppeppy | You may have missed |Jelly| linking a video, Shirik. |
| 14:58.54 | Shirik|Ecole | ah I can't watch it |
| 14:58.56 | Shirik|Ecole | in class |
| 14:59.19 | Lopeppeppy | Yeah... definitely not class material. |
| 14:59.56 | Shirik|Ecole | |Jelly|Coooookie: Have you seen my BE? ^^ |
| 15:00.00 | Shirik|Ecole | been posting on it |
| 15:00.04 | Shirik|Ecole | mostly beause I'm too lazy to switch back |
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| 15:10.34 | Gnarfoz | is anyone here knowledgeable about windows xp's start menu 'most used' list? can batch (.cmd, .bat) files even get in there? or only executables? or only special executables (ones with "manifests")? |
| 15:11.45 | zenzelezz | Gnarfoz: the XP start menu? |
| 15:11.56 | zenzelezz | as in not the classic one |
| 15:12.12 | Gnarfoz | yes |
| 15:12.20 | zenzelezz | http://blogs.msdn.com/oldnewthing/default.aspx |
| 15:12.22 | Gnarfoz | the classic one doesn't even have the feature :) |
| 15:12.32 | zenzelezz | he's actually talked about that feature for the last week or so |
| 15:12.45 | zenzelezz | not sure, but he might've answered it there, have a look :) |
| 15:14.00 | Gnarfoz | I'll read around there, perhaps I'll get something useful out of it :> |
| 15:14.30 | Gnarfoz | I miss my WoW being in that list, since I use a script to start it that 7zip's all my SVs beforehand |
| 15:15.19 | zenzelezz | I saw mention of "stickying" shortcuts, but I don't use the "fancy" menu so I'm not sure what it meant |
| 15:15.35 | Gnarfoz | naw |
| 15:15.40 | Gnarfoz | that's not quite what I want to do |
| 15:16.02 | Gnarfoz | per default, there's $your_webbrowser and $your_emailclient up there (pinned to the top) |
| 15:18.41 | |Jelly| | I hadn't really noticed your alt posting. I see your sig every now and then though. |
| 15:23.28 | |Jelly| | So. Yeah. |
| 15:23.58 | Lopeppeppy | Was lunch good, |Jelly|? |
| 15:24.05 | |Jelly| | eating now |
| 15:24.14 | |Jelly| | egg sammich and coffee |
| 15:24.19 | |Jelly| | so....no |
| 15:26.05 | TS|Skrom | gah! freakin' level 1 gold spammers inviting me to groups >< |
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| 15:26.50 | zenzelezz | for some reason I've hardly seen gold spam at all lately; not mails, not whispers, not invites |
| 15:26.54 | zenzelezz | not even on trade |
| 15:27.30 | nevcairiel | now that you mention it |
| 15:27.36 | nevcairiel | i havent either |
| 15:27.39 | |Jelly| | lol |
| 15:27.43 | TS|Skrom | what's the string search param for an alpha char? |
| 15:27.47 | |Jelly| | you both just totally screwed yourselves! |
| 15:27.49 | TS|Skrom | I always forget >< |
| 15:28.00 | TS|Skrom | %s? |
| 15:29.39 | Lopeppeppy | I've only gotten about 5 goldspams since the fabulous patch. I'm totally content. |
| 15:32.24 | [dRaCo] | blizz implemented some decent spam filters with 2.10 |
| 15:33.49 | |Jelly| | They invite me to groups. Makes me kind of want to kill them in the face. |
| 15:34.53 | Lopeppeppy | My server doesn't seem to have seen the group-spam yet. I'm lucky. |
| 15:37.07 | |Jelly| | Mmmmm. Watered down mud! |
| 15:37.42 | |Jelly| | http://wowi.pastey.net/57063 <- can someone double check that and tell me if I'm an idiot or not? (Non-tested) |
| 15:38.19 | |FF|Im2good4u | ike |
| 15:39.46 | TS|Skrom | One of these days I'll remember that ["1"] does not equal [1] |
| 15:40.14 | |FF|Im2good4u | well it doesnt seem that bad |Jelly| :P |
| 15:40.26 | |Jelly| | Which means it doesn't seem that good either. rofl |
| 15:40.38 | |Jelly| | I just wanted to know if there were any glaring faux pas in it. |
| 15:40.39 | |FF|Im2good4u | TS|Skrom u got to remeber that 1 is not the same as "1" :P |
| 15:40.52 | TS|Skrom | I know rite! |
| 15:41.14 | |Jelly| | Shirik: How's the lolcode interpreter coming along? :) |
| 15:41.51 | N|Tivoli | why do you need the onupdate script in there? |
| 15:42.08 | |FF|Im2good4u | yeah why |
| 15:42.20 | |Jelly| | actually, i need to change it more... gimme a second |
| 15:42.36 | N|Tivoli | looks like you can just take all all the if (event ==... and just have the script in there |
| 15:44.19 | N|Tivoli | also are the GoingSolo_Raid_Show and GoingSolo_Raid_Hide functions missing? |
| 15:44.29 | |Jelly| | [10:42]<|Jelly|>actually, i need to change it more... gimme a second |
| 15:44.34 | N|Tivoli | hehe |
| 15:44.43 | N|Tivoli | just pointing it out since i noticed it ^^ |
| 15:44.53 | |Jelly| | don't need those anymore at all since I changed my ui to not use 3d models |
| 15:45.06 | |Jelly| | (those were going to hide the 3d models for my party when in raid) |
| 15:46.30 | |Jelly| | And to answer your question, I don't know -- Shirik put that in there and well, I didn't mess with it. |
| 15:47.32 | |Jelly| | Crap of it is, I can't remember which of the problems he was helping me with because as it seems, what i remove makes that null and void. |
| 15:47.45 | |Jelly| | I really need to start taking notes. : / |
| 15:48.42 | |FF|Im2good4u | LoL i just google lol code its hella fun |
| 15:50.56 | |Jelly| | Peppy: [W From] <Huntor>: Shadow Lab? *shudder* |
| 15:51.03 | TS|Skrom | how is it that I'm getting two table cells with an index of [1] |
| 15:51.07 | TS|Skrom | this is odd |
| 15:52.20 | Lopeppeppy | |Jelly| Response: "No thanks, I've already got one, it's verra nice!" |
| 15:52.47 | TS|Skrom | omg... the answer to my own qeustion is guess what... ["1"] =! [1] |
| 15:59.29 | |Jelly| | http://wowi.pastey.net/57068 wash rinse repeat |
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| 16:04.09 | |Jelly| | awww |
| 16:04.24 | subbawt | i hate guildportal, we use it too |
| 16:05.19 | Lopeppeppy | They've ramped up their security features today... so ramped that 90% of users can't post. It's wicked fun to be the tech officer for my group, with an inbox full of "what did I do wrong" posts from members.... |
| 16:05.34 | subbawt | how do i fix it? :[ |
| 16:05.57 | Lopeppeppy | 'zactly. |
| 16:06.12 | subbawt | im being serious! |
| 16:06.21 | Lopeppeppy | Oh, sorry. |
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| 16:06.37 | |Jelly| | I've had four people (the entire group) ask me if I wanted to run Shadow Labs. |
| 16:06.43 | subbawt | that happens to me |
| 16:06.54 | |Jelly| | I wish people would communicate when someone says "OMG NO" that means exactly that. |
| 16:06.59 | Lopeppeppy | The issue is on the GP end, not guilds or users. Some people find that if they click "Okay" on the error screen, and then IMMEDIATELY click ESC, they can post. But that's only some peoples, doesn't work for me. |
| 16:07.08 | Lopeppeppy | Not, "OMG, you three beg her too!" |
| 16:07.18 | |Jelly| | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:08.23 | |Jelly| | Ok guys. I'm sorry for asking an Ace question here. (lol) How can I tell what libraries I need and what I can delete? Someone just asked me to publish my new UI *sigh* and well, I used the StandAlone which added all of them (it seems) |
| 16:08.58 | cog|work | #wowace :P |
| 16:09.15 | |Jelly| | Grr. |
| 16:09.39 | |Jelly| | You know Cog. It's assholes like you tha... Yeah. I can't even finish that without laughing. |
| 16:09.49 | cog|work | I've always just put whatever I *know* i'm using and then add more as it complains that it's missing something |
| 16:09.58 | |Jelly| | GRR! Now people are asking me to heal for BM. |
| 16:10.10 | |Jelly| | The two instances I hate just as much as Mara! |
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| 16:10.53 | Lopeppeppy | Yarg. "No thanks, I already have one, it's verra nice. And if your friends PM me, I'll hit them with a SW P so hard their brains will leak out of their ears." |
| 16:11.11 | |Jelly| | rofl |
| 16:11.18 | |Jelly| | Are you on a RP server? 8P |
| 16:11.38 | cog|work | |Jelly|: can u hela plz 4 gnomer? |
| 16:11.52 | |Jelly| | I actually enjoyed Gnomer so long as people weren't stupid. |
| 16:11.58 | cog|work | me too :P |
| 16:11.59 | subbawt | i've never done gnomer |
| 16:12.11 | |Jelly| | You're missing out. Really. |
| 16:12.22 | cog|work | I think it's an incredibly well-designed instance |
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| 16:12.42 | |Jelly| | I couldn't agree more. |
| 16:12.45 | Lopeppeppy | Yup, I'm on an RP server, and I've only done Gnomer once. I got lost, hated it, never went back. |
| 16:12.47 | Gnarfoz | I hate it when people illogically abbreviate instance names :D |
| 16:13.13 | |Jelly| | Peppy. You have to go back! |
| 16:13.19 | |Jelly| | You're 70 now. Go rock that! |
| 16:13.46 | zenzelezz | I'm more annoyed at all the S instances in Outland... SV, SL, SeH, ShH |
| 16:14.07 | |Jelly| | Gnarfoz: Elaborate? |
| 16:14.24 | Lopeppeppy | What's an SeH? |
| 16:14.29 | Lopeppeppy | Versus an ShH? |
| 16:14.29 | Gnarfoz | sethekk halls |
| 16:14.32 | Gnarfoz | Shattered Halls |
| 16:14.38 | Lopeppeppy | Ooooh... birdville versus orctown. |
| 16:14.42 | Gnarfoz | indeed |
| 16:14.49 | |Jelly| | Oh. Ok. I thought you were talking about "gnomer" lol |
| 16:14.55 | Gnarfoz | I was |
| 16:14.59 | Gnarfoz | ;p |
| 16:15.05 | |Jelly| | Well then. DIAF! 8p |
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| 16:16.29 | cog|work | hmm... ChanServ = slow this morning :P |
| 16:16.29 | jme | so i was rolling a belf mage last night, and when i killed the murloc boss dude in the starter zone all the murlocs got feared for some reason |
| 16:16.34 | jme | and just ran around |
| 16:16.49 | |Jelly| | BFD? |
| 16:16.56 | |Jelly| | <3 acronyms! 8P |
| 16:17.28 | jme | no, just a bug (or feature) i've noticed on several occasions, heh |
| 16:17.54 | zenzelezz | not sure it's a bug, there are occasions when mobs are scripted like that |
| 16:18.36 | Lopeppeppy | I remember the boss ogre head in one of the 55ish zones does that for a quest.... |
| 16:18.56 | zenzelezz | yeah, Burning Steppes |
| 16:19.18 | Lopeppeppy | That one. I always get talking about Searing Steppes and Burning Gorges... *confused easily* |
| 16:19.26 | jme | heh |
| 16:19.27 | |Jelly| | BRD <3 |
| 16:19.37 | zenzelezz | burning gorges sound painful |
| 16:19.44 | Kaydeethree | so does searing steppes |
| 16:19.54 | Kaydeethree | 'course, burning steppes doesn't sound any better |
| 16:20.04 | Lopeppeppy | I don't mind Sunken Temple, it's one of my favorites. |
| 16:20.25 | Kaydeethree | meh. I haven't been to ST since I ran to eranikus' room for the AQ gate-opening questline |
| 16:20.37 | jme | i skipped ST, scholo, all of the blackrock mountain |
| 16:20.44 | |Jelly| | I don't like it because I play zoomed WAY out and all the crap hanging off the ceiling gets in my way...but other than that, I like it. |
| 16:20.49 | jme | except i went back and got attuned for MC just for fun |
| 16:21.32 | zenzelezz | ST was fun in good teams, but a bit cramped |
| 16:21.52 | Lopeppeppy | I play waaaaay zoomed too, I have to change my zoom for in there. But I love the whole lights-statues thing, and all the levels. |
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| 16:25.21 | |Jelly| | I honestly liked Black Rock Depths. |
| 16:25.31 | zenzelezz | same |
| 16:25.34 | |Jelly| | It's just hard to find a group that doesn't suck for it. |
| 16:25.53 | Lopeppeppy | My S.O likes it too... me not so much, too many sucky people who only want to do one quest and then leave. |
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| 16:26.02 | Lopeppeppy | Never one that I have in my log, sadly. |
| 16:26.08 | zenzelezz | that's not the instance's faul |
| 16:26.10 | zenzelezz | +t |
| 16:26.27 | Lopeppeppy | No, but it contributes to bad experiences in the instance, which leads to instance-hate. |
| 16:26.29 | |Jelly| | I love the people that want to do a key run...but don't wanna go for Emperor ever. |
| 16:26.48 | Lopeppeppy | I've never had a successful Emperor run. I just gave up. |
| 16:27.03 | |Jelly| | Lyceum isn't anything to mess around with. |
| 16:27.10 | |Jelly| | Stupid people = insta-death |
| 16:27.18 | zenzelezz | I remember when me, a rogue and a paladin went three-manning the emperor and coffer for phats |
| 16:27.41 | Kaydeethree | heh... it's funny. of all the times I've run BRD, I never saw the emperor |
| 16:27.43 | Lopeppeppy | When you can three man it, the loots aren't as pretty. |
| 16:27.50 | cladhaire | what hunter pets are good in the XP? |
| 16:27.54 | Kaydeethree | was mainly jailbreak/MC attunements |
| 16:28.18 | zenzelezz | Lopeppeppy: yup, mostly not, but the rogue wanted that trinket thing, and me and the paladin needed items for librams |
| 16:29.48 | zenzelezz | cladhaire: which pet did you use before BC? |
| 16:29.53 | sag_ich_nicht | Shirik are there going to be "major" changes to the RPC protocol in the next release? :O |
| 16:29.58 | cladhaire | wolf |
| 16:30.02 | cladhaire | for no particular reason |
| 16:30.28 | zenzelezz | cladhaire: I don't know much about the new pet types, or how the various BC mobs compare, but I'm still using a wolf and happy with it |
| 16:30.28 | mikma | cladhaire: some folks like tha warpstalkers |
| 16:30.34 | cladhaire | hrm k |
| 16:30.45 | mikma | but the best hunters in the guild i am still use wolf as their pet |
| 16:30.52 | zenzelezz | just grabbed a new wolf today actually |
| 16:31.02 | zenzelezz | Rema in BEM |
| 16:31.07 | cladhaire | nice :P |
| 16:31.13 | cladhaire | i'm level 57 |
| 16:31.17 | cladhaire | so i'll stick with this one for now |
| 16:31.37 | zenzelezz | I used my Blackrock Worg until I could tame Ironjaw or whatever his name was |
| 16:32.31 | zenzelezz | but my choice of pets is usually more about getting one I think looks cool, that preferably also doesn't suck :-p |
| 16:32.51 | Shirik | so I just managed to cut myself on a bed |
| 16:32.53 | Shirik | ow. |
| 16:33.01 | zenzelezz | on a bed? |
| 16:33.06 | Shirik | sag_ich_nicht: nope |
| 16:33.14 | Shirik | zenzelezz: yes, I was rather impressed |
| 16:33.18 | Shirik | unfortunately, now it hurts |
| 16:33.29 | zenzelezz | cuts tend to do tha |
| 16:33.30 | zenzelezz | +t |
| 16:33.45 | sag_ich_nicht | Shirik: fine. are you going to create a more, well, "usable" documentation for it any time soon? :P |
| 16:34.11 | Shirik | http://rdx.emoemu.com/wiki/index.php/Commuincation_Protocols is the best for now |
| 16:34.16 | Shirik | until v11, there's a lot of work to do so |
| 16:34.19 | Shirik | unlikely |
| 16:34.29 | Shirik | http://rdx.emoemu.com/wiki/index.php/Communication_Protocols |
| 16:34.30 | Shirik | 'that is |
| 16:34.32 | jme | i need to get the 60 elite cat from winterspring.. forgot the name |
| 16:34.49 | jme | well, want to get :P |
| 16:35.06 | Shirik | why? |
| 16:35.11 | Shirik | They normalized pets several patches back |
| 16:35.16 | Shirik | having an elite pet doesn't do much |
| 16:35.19 | jme | i know |
| 16:35.41 | jme | it looks cool ;) |
| 16:35.42 | sag_ich_nicht | Shirik: that documentation isn't very useful, you know :P |
| 16:35.48 | Shirik | it's very useful to me ^^ |
| 16:35.52 | Shirik | It gives me a list of all the protocls |
| 16:35.57 | Shirik | so I can refer back to it later :D |
| 16:36.07 | Shirik | that's the only reason it's been updated tbh |
| 16:36.13 | Shirik | but yeah it's crap, I know |
| 16:36.18 | Shirik | when I have free time it'll be expanded |
| 16:36.26 | Shirik | at some point in time we hope to have a full documentation |
| 16:36.32 | Shirik | so that instead of Cidan and myself coding all the modules |
| 16:36.35 | Shirik | perhaps other people will pitch in too |
| 16:36.54 | sag_ich_nicht | Shirik: any intend to bring back the module push mechanic? (because i think i heard something from you about that a few days ago) |
| 16:36.58 | sag_ich_nicht | *intent |
| 16:37.00 | sag_ich_nicht | well |
| 16:37.04 | sag_ich_nicht | actually, *intention -.- |
| 16:37.10 | Shirik | push mechanic? |
| 16:37.21 | |Jelly| | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=110646041&sid=1 woe is me. my feelings are hurt. |
| 16:37.23 | sag_ich_nicht | i remember it being in the "original" RDX5 |
| 16:37.31 | sag_ich_nicht | where you were able to push whole new modules to clients |
| 16:37.37 | sag_ich_nicht | (as raidleader) |
| 16:37.45 | Shirik | poor |Jelly| |
| 16:37.56 | Shirik | I... never heard of that being in RDX5, but it could have been |
| 16:38.01 | Shirik | in any case, the patcher will be capable of that |
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| 16:39.07 | TS|Skrom | http://www-en.curse-gaming.com/downloads/details/8192/ |
| 16:39.10 | TS|Skrom | whee |
| 16:39.20 | sag_ich_nicht | [18:37] <Shirik> I... never heard of that being in RDX5, but it could have been <--i'm reffering to the very original cracked one ;P |
| 16:39.31 | Shirik | I had the non-cracked one |
| 16:39.33 | Shirik | and I never saw it so |
| 16:39.45 | Shirik | both Cidan and I had RDX far before it was released |
| 16:39.54 | Shirik | (legally of course) |
| 16:39.58 | sag_ich_nicht | yeah |
| 16:40.03 | sag_ich_nicht | i never had the cracked one either |
| 16:40.11 | sag_ich_nicht | but i read quite a bit about it's features |
| 16:40.31 | sag_ich_nicht | and the RPC is more or less ideal for module pushing :O |
| 16:40.41 | Shirik | I know that when it was first bracked, there were a lot of extra "features" added |
| 16:40.43 | Shirik | by random people |
| 16:41.00 | zenzelezz | bracked? |
| 16:41.13 | sag_ich_nicht | say you are a coder and raidleader, get to a boss(new one, that is), and decide to write a bossmod after a bit of testing |
| 16:41.21 | TS|Skrom | haha nice on |Jelly| |
| 16:41.27 | sag_ich_nicht | once you are done you could just use the push module button and everyone would have the bossmod |
| 16:41.28 | sag_ich_nicht | :P |
| 16:41.35 | |Jelly| | TS:Skrom: ? |
| 16:41.50 | TS|Skrom | Yes. Probably. |
| 16:41.59 | |Jelly| | It's the truth. :/ |
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| 16:47.42 | TS|Skrom | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=110645713&sid=1 |
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| 16:48.19 | Lopeppeppy | The picture of grace and kindness, TS|Skrom challenges himself to not only answer a question, but provide the addon! *cheer* |
| 16:48.50 | TS|Skrom | ^.^ |
| 16:49.23 | TS|Skrom | did you see this one from friday? http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=110563041&sid=1 |
| 16:50.57 | Lopeppeppy | A hero... you just like challenges, don't ya? |
| 16:51.03 | |Jelly| | lol |
| 16:51.19 | TS|Skrom | yes I do XD |
| 16:51.32 | TS|Skrom | I figure, I'm not going to learn anything unless I'm coding |
| 16:51.37 | Lopeppeppy | Whatever gets your coding creativity flowing, my friend. I like pickles myself.... |
| 16:51.40 | TS|Skrom | and coming up with new ideas is the hardest part |
| 16:51.55 | sag_ich_nicht | Shirik: the reason i ask is because i want to create a modular spam addon, which allows you to synchronize some stuff(i.e. emotes, abilities & text) with other players... i.e. so we(=me and some people :P) can spam songlyrics with a 'perfectly' timed lightshow in IF at 3 in the morning :P |
| 16:52.23 | sag_ich_nicht | (yes, i'm really really bored) |
| 16:52.36 | |Jelly| | Are you *that* bored? (had this written before you said that) lol |
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| 16:54.02 | Lopeppeppy | Wow... sag_ich_nicht, you must be from a newer RP server than mine! *laugh* |
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| 16:56.53 | sag_ich_nicht | [18:53] <Lopeppeppy> Wow... sag_ich_nicht, you must be from a newer RP server than mine! *laugh* <--no, i'm on a normal PvP server. :O |
| 16:57.13 | sag_ich_nicht | Lopeppeppy and what exactly lead you to the assumption that it must be newer? :P |
| 16:57.15 | |Jelly| | pvp server 4tw! |
| 16:57.59 | sag_ich_nicht | +than yours |
| 16:58.59 | TS|Skrom | the fact that you use lasors in your show? |
| 16:59.46 | TS|Skrom | is there a command to reindex a table? i.e. if I delete [3] to make it move 4 -> 3, 5 -> 4, etc? |
| 17:00.10 | TS|Skrom | I know, I know rtfm |
| 17:00.30 | sag_ich_nicht | [18:58] <TS|Skrom> the fact that you use lasors in your show? <--what |
| 17:00.33 | sag_ich_nicht | you know |
| 17:00.36 | sag_ich_nicht | lightshow |
| 17:00.54 | sag_ich_nicht | blizzard, arcane explosion, consecrate, etc. :P |
| 17:01.02 | TS|Skrom | I was joking :) a lazor lightshow would have to be on a newer server since it's new technology! |
| 17:01.15 | TS|Skrom | but that's my guess I have no idea what Lopeppeppy was talking about :P |
| 17:01.27 | zenzelezz | "After a long discussion Blizzard has decided carpets are Working as Intended." |
| 17:01.45 | sag_ich_nicht | zenzelezz are you kidding me? |
| 17:01.52 | sag_ich_nicht | the carpets are not fucking working D: |
| 17:01.53 | zenzelezz | http://forums.wow-europe.com/thread.html?topicId=296210627&sid=1 |
| 17:02.34 | sag_ich_nicht | lol |
| 17:02.42 | sag_ich_nicht | that was not a "WAI" |
| 17:03.27 | zenzelezz | of course not |
| 17:04.57 | Lopeppeppy | Sorry, went to fetch some salad. I'm on an old RP server, and well... it's not an RP server anymore, it's just normal. *shrug* |
| 17:05.29 | Lopeppeppy | Like a long established marriage, the spark has gone out. *sniffle* |
| 17:05.37 | sag_ich_nicht | Lopeppeppy D: |
| 17:05.47 | sag_ich_nicht | and why did you think i was playing on an RP server? :O |
| 17:05.49 | |Jelly| | I'm on a release server. It's hard making new characters on it. lol |
| 17:05.59 | sag_ich_nicht | i'm on a release server as well |
| 17:06.11 | ScytheBlade1 | Same |
| 17:06.25 | sag_ich_nicht | actually, this is the second release server i'm on |
| 17:06.34 | sag_ich_nicht | first i had a hunter on a release server |
| 17:06.41 | Lopeppeppy | I've never seen something so complex for fun on any of the normal or PvP servers I second on. |
| 17:06.44 | |Jelly| | technically, same. My alliance server was release :/ |
| 17:06.45 | sag_ich_nicht | then i created a paladin on a friends server, that friend stopped playing |
| 17:07.10 | sag_ich_nicht | then there was a free character transfer from these two servers to a new server |
| 17:07.18 | sag_ich_nicht | so i transfered the pala and the hunter onto that server |
| 17:07.36 | |Jelly| | That's what happened with my Alliance character. |
| 17:07.38 | sag_ich_nicht | THEN I PCT'd these to a release server a friend of mine is playing on. |
| 17:07.50 | sag_ich_nicht | talk about serverhopping >.> |
| 17:08.05 | |Jelly| | Then I decided that I wanted the dark side so after hitting 60, I rerolled on a friend's server which happened to be PVP. (I hate pvp, personally) |
| 17:08.15 | sag_ich_nicht | lol nub :O |
| 17:09.23 | |Jelly| | How many times am I going to have to say this? |
| 17:09.26 | |Jelly| | HOLY PRIEST |
| 17:09.31 | sag_ich_nicht | | |
| 17:09.37 | |Jelly| | *Note* Not Smite Spec <3 |
| 17:09.44 | sag_ich_nicht | |Jelly|: WELL RESPEC DISC :P |
| 17:09.48 | |Jelly| | ewwwwww |
| 17:09.55 | |Jelly| | I don't think you can wash that taint off you. |
| 17:10.22 | |Jelly| | Granted, it did take a prot warrior, bm huntard and I like five mintues to kill a fuckin disc priest |
| 17:10.41 | |Jelly| | ...while she was running away from our raid! |
| 17:11.57 | Lopeppeppy | The Disc talents have uses... my end build for my 52 priestess is about half disc half holy. |
| 17:12.22 | sag_ich_nicht | |Jelly|: as i said, disc priests are more unkillable than a damn prot paladin |
| 17:12.30 | sag_ich_nicht | (well, maybe nearly as unkillable) |
| 17:12.35 | |Jelly| | lol |
| 17:12.47 | |Jelly| | I remember a duel between my resto shaman and a holy paladin. |
| 17:12.52 | |Jelly| | I got three mana tides... |
| 17:13.06 | Lopeppeppy | For... ev.....er..... |
| 17:13.12 | sag_ich_nicht | longest duell ever? holy paladin against resto druid. |
| 17:13.19 | sag_ich_nicht | -l |
| 17:13.37 | sag_ich_nicht | TWO hours, i kid you not |
| 17:13.37 | sag_ich_nicht | D: |
| 17:14.02 | sag_ich_nicht | then a lagspike owned the druid |
| 17:14.04 | |Jelly| | screw that. |
| 17:14.10 | |Jelly| | I sat down and let her beat me. |
| 17:14.17 | sag_ich_nicht | lol |
| 17:14.37 | |Jelly| | seriously... 3 mana tides is a bit much for me...I couldn't imagine 2 hours. |
| 17:14.45 | |Jelly| | I'd get bored more than anything. |
| 17:14.47 | zenzelezz | "It's a shame you don't like your class; you might want to try a different one then? Don't call us liars, that's not very nice." -- quality blue response |
| 17:14.58 | sag_ich_nicht | link |
| 17:14.59 | sag_ich_nicht | giev |
| 17:15.03 | zenzelezz | http://forums.wow-europe.com/thread.html?topicId=296450592&sid=1 |
| 17:15.06 | |Jelly| | SS or it didn't happen! |
| 17:15.08 | sag_ich_nicht | also, i like these reponses from blue |
| 17:15.29 | sag_ich_nicht | players and especially forum posters are sometimes being a real dick to them |
| 17:15.35 | zenzelezz | indeed |
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| 17:17.34 | sag_ich_nicht | what I DON'T like are "WAI" responses when it clearly isn't |
| 17:17.55 | sag_ich_nicht | (it took them until NOW to realize that vanish is broken, it's been broken since what, 4 major patches?) |
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| 17:18.24 | |Jelly| | Peppy. I got a rogue question for you! |
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| 17:18.36 | sag_ich_nicht | and i'm not even playing a rogue, and know it's damn broken |
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| 17:18.53 | sag_ich_nicht | hello there Antiarc :O |
| 17:19.13 | |Jelly| | Since the 2.1 patch where everyone has imp sap, have you been seen more often than you did when you actually spec'd imp sap? (never...for me...) |
| 17:19.18 | Lopeppeppy | Wait.... sag_ich_nicht, did a blizzard poster actually acknowledge it was broken? Really? |
| 17:19.53 | TS|Skrom | what do you mean "everyone has improved sap"? |
| 17:20.22 | |Jelly| | They made it so sap didn't remove you from stealth anymore. |
| 17:20.22 | zenzelezz | didn't you read the 2.1 patch notes? |
| 17:20.22 | |Jelly| | Whereas it used to be 7 points into sub |
| 17:20.39 | TS|Skrom | to be honest, no. I didn't start playing agian til after 2.1 came out. Just patched up and played |
| 17:20.51 | Lopeppeppy | I took the extra 2 points out of the talent that improves the range, Jelly. I only have 5 points in opportunity on that side, so I dont' have extra stealth. I always Distract first. |
| 17:20.52 | TS|Skrom | oh... wondered about that last night actually hehe |
| 17:21.00 | Lopeppeppy | And no... I don't think I get seen any more often than before. |
| 17:21.13 | |Jelly| | Mobs just must thing my BE is sexxorz. |
| 17:21.14 | TS|Skrom | was doing bg's with my rogue and looking over my talents I had picked... |
| 17:21.30 | TS|Skrom | noticed improved sap didn't say it didn't keep in you in stealth anymore |
| 17:21.47 | Lopeppeppy | Could be, |Jelly|. Elves are hawt, I'm just a tiny gnome hopping up to bop them on the head. |
| 17:22.16 | TS|Skrom | I like the reduced energy cost of sap though. I sap a LOT in bg's. Puts them on edge especially if you do it to the FC :P |
| 17:22.40 | TS|Skrom | As long as you switch targets every sap or so they won't hit DR, and you can really throw em for a loop while waiting for backup to arrive |
| 17:23.07 | sag_ich_nicht | [19:19] <Lopeppeppy> Wait.... sag_ich_nicht, did a blizzard poster actually acknowledge it was broken? Really? <--yes |
| 17:23.11 | sag_ich_nicht | check the US bugreport forums |
| 17:23.18 | |Jelly| | "Sap no longer removes you from stealth when used." <- 2.1 patch notes |
| 17:24.44 | sag_ich_nicht | i always wanted to do a NE 61 point subtility(yeah i probably misspelled that) rogue with the back enchant for +stealth |
| 17:24.49 | sag_ich_nicht | but i'm not sure if it all would stack |
| 17:25.54 | Lopeppeppy | Ah, Hortus is acknowledging a poisons bug, but not the issue with pets. |
| 17:26.19 | zenzelezz | what issue is that? |
| 17:26.33 | sag_ich_nicht | Lopeppeppy: there is no issue with pets |
| 17:26.37 | sag_ich_nicht | well |
| 17:26.40 | sag_ich_nicht | not really |
| 17:26.40 | Lopeppeppy | Of course there's not, sag. *sigh* |
| 17:26.46 | sag_ich_nicht | Lopeppeppy let me finish |
| 17:26.47 | sag_ich_nicht | ffs |
| 17:26.51 | Lopeppeppy | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=106002610&sid=1&pageNo=4#68 |
| 17:27.03 | sag_ich_nicht | vanish should remove you from all npcs and players targets(that includes pets) |
| 17:27.22 | sag_ich_nicht | sometimes, it doesn't, allowing them to still attack you, and he acknowledges that |
| 17:27.50 | sag_ich_nicht | the problem is that SOME rogues think they should be able to re-stealth(not vanish) and get away from the pet using that... which they shouldn't be, as that is WAI :P |
| 17:28.07 | Lopeppeppy | Whee, finally.... that's been a hard bug to get acknowledged. All I keep hearing is that Stealth isn't intended to break aggro... no, stealth isn't, but Vanish is, and Vanish is broken... the discussion goes round and round. |
| 17:28.38 | sag_ich_nicht | well, you know, i work as a tester from time to time |
| 17:28.39 | sag_ich_nicht | and |
| 17:28.59 | sag_ich_nicht | sometimes it's really hard to reproduce a bug in a controlled environment so you can actually trace it |
| 17:29.06 | sag_ich_nicht | even if you get a million reports about it |
| 17:29.48 | Gryphen | wish they would take the stick out of the NE ass in stealth animation |
| 17:29.54 | Lopeppeppy | Oh, indeed.... over time, I would have hoped it were more possible than it has been. I believe this happened concurrently with the Shadowmeld/Aimed Shot thing, which should have pointed out a clue in theory. |
| 17:31.14 | sag_ich_nicht | i mean, last saturday or something i was finally able to give a stacktrace for a bug in VanasKoS(well, actually AceComm, but vanaskos was the only thing that triggered the bug :P) and it got fixed pretty quickly |
| 17:31.20 | sag_ich_nicht | but i had the bug for months :P |
| 17:33.06 | Lopeppeppy | This one has been around for over a year, it's awesome to see it finally acknowledged and being worked on. I have great hopes that it will one day allow me to put Vanish on a hotkey again! |
| 17:33.59 | TS|Skrom | *GASP* I just realized something... |
| 17:34.09 | TS|Skrom | I've created the perfect addon for my smart alecness |
| 17:34.15 | Lopeppeppy | Oh.... my. |
| 17:34.50 | TS|Skrom | if I'm trying to be sarcastic I'll say things like "Treston's reasons for why tanking in berserker stance is stupid #25" |
| 17:34.59 | TS|Skrom | and then follow with some other comment |
| 17:35.10 | TS|Skrom | now I can actually store those in an easy to use ui |
| 17:35.31 | Lopeppeppy | You've enhanced your monster! |
| 17:35.32 | TS|Skrom | ./thespian use 2 (my warrior "rules") /thespian out 25 |
| 17:35.40 | TS|Skrom | it's beautiful! |
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| 17:36.47 | sylvanaar | anyone have a blp viewer link? |
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| 17:44.01 | |Jelly| | Cog. Don't lie to the people! The stickies are there just for show; they're not useful in the slightest! |
| 17:45.26 | Shirik | 132:442:01 12‹|Jelly|12› Cog. Don't lie to the people! The stickies are there just for show; they're not useful in the slightest! |
| 17:45.28 | Shirik | true story. |
| 17:46.06 | |Jelly| | I know right. |
| 17:46.14 | Josh_Borke | true story |
| 17:46.17 | Lopeppeppy | Like parsley on the plate. |
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| 18:10.53 | cog|work | http://www.nytimes.com/2007/06/17/magazine/17lootfarmers-t.html?ei=5088&en=a6282d1ddf608fc1&ex=1339732800&partner=rssnyt&emc=rss&pagewanted=all |
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| 18:11.24 | |Jelly| | *feels a tldr coming on* |
| 18:13.41 | |Jelly| | : wonders what the hell r'ing is |
| 18:13.52 | Lopeppeppy | Sounds scary. |
| 18:13.54 | cog|work | ycob hric |
| 18:13.57 | cog|work | err... |
| 18:13.59 | cog|work | from tldr |
| 18:14.20 | |Jelly| | I failed my acronym class, Cog. I'm sorry. |
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| 18:16.48 | Lopeppeppy | I failed my "Understanding Cogwheel" class last semester, I am a noob. |
| 18:18.19 | Shirik | lolcode - 4322 error(s), 1 warning(s) |
| 18:18.22 | Shirik | that's a new record for me |
| 18:18.23 | Shirik | I'm impressed |
| 18:18.55 | Shirik | same error over and over again though :P |
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| 18:22.25 | Thunder_Child | hmm..sucks to be on the cataclysm and frenzy battlegroups |
| 18:22.45 | nevcairiel | why? |
| 18:22.53 | Thunder_Child | they will be down for 24 |
| 18:22.55 | Thunder_Child | hrs |
| 18:23.03 | Thunder_Child | from 19 3 am to 20 3 am |
| 18:23.06 | nevcairiel | oh |
| 18:23.11 | nevcairiel | oh well :) |
| 18:23.12 | Thunder_Child | 19th 20th* |
| 18:24.15 | Kaso | cog|work, "Night Elf Wizards" |
| 18:24.35 | cog|work | not like i wrote it :P |
| 18:24.45 | Thunder_Child | dont lie |
| 18:24.46 | |Jelly| | So I'm half way through it and starting to feel a TLDR coming on. |
| 18:26.31 | Kaso | The issue i have with condemning gold selling/farming/whatever is all these guys are doing this because there is little or nothing better they can do for a living, so if everyone suddenly stopped buying gold these guys would end up worse off. It aint a universalisable maxim |
| 18:27.17 | Thunder_Child | worse off?like the guy with the law degree? |
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| 18:27.30 | Thunder_Child | s/?l/? l/ |
| 18:27.50 | Lopeppeppy | If one economic niche goes away, another comes around. I don't buy the "doing this to feed families, don't take our livelihood" angle. |
| 18:27.51 | Kaso | if there are better jobs for him out there, why hasnt he |
| 18:28.02 | Lopeppeppy | Because easy is easier. |
| 18:28.06 | Thunder_Child | because it requires work |
| 18:28.14 | Thunder_Child | yea, what lope said |
| 18:29.20 | Kaso | my point, i didnt say what makes one job better than another, for them a "good" job is prob one that gives him enough money to live whilst he doesnt have to work that hard. He'd be more unhappy (grammar? lol) if his current job was taken away |
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| 18:30.23 | Lopeppeppy | His unhappiness at finding another job is not Blizzard's problem. Their problem is protecting their patents, copyrights, and other such things. |
| 18:30.25 | TS|Skrom | Lopeppeppy too fast |
| 18:30.29 | TS|Skrom | was gonna link http://wowui.incgamers.com/ui.php?id=3367 |
| 18:30.32 | TS|Skrom | as one example |
| 18:30.58 | Lopeppeppy | Sorry, TS|Skrom.... I'll tie one hand behind my back and do the hunt-and-peck! |
| 18:31.04 | TS|Skrom | haha |
| 18:31.34 | Kaso | im not saying blizzard should stop cracking down with them, theyre free to do whatever they want its their business, all im saying is i wouldnt ever say "Noone should buy gold, it is immoral" or something similar |
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| 18:32.12 | Lopeppeppy | It's not immoral, except in the sense that it violates established copyright and terms of use, patents, etc. |
| 18:32.16 | cog|work | so it's always OK to violate a contract as long as some third party benefits? |
| 18:32.32 | Lopeppeppy | It's "illegal", which has nothing to do with "morality". |
| 18:32.38 | foxlit | Lopeppeppy:You're confusing immoral and illegal |
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| 18:32.45 | cog|work | I find it immoral to break an agreement you make... |
| 18:32.47 | Lopeppeppy | I don't think so, foxlit. |
| 18:32.59 | |Jelly| | stupid dsl |
| 18:33.23 | |Jelly| | What did I miss? |
| 18:33.30 | |Jelly| | 8( |
| 18:33.35 | |Jelly| | someone pm me the spam! |
| 18:36.17 | |Jelly| | 8( |
| 18:37.14 | Lopeppeppy | Just a 2 second debate on illegal vs. immoral. |
| 18:37.30 | |Jelly| | But I wanna read it! |
| 18:37.38 | |Jelly| | And foxlit didn't help! rofl |
| 18:37.44 | foxlit | <Lopeppeppy> It's not immoral, except in the sense that it violates established copyright and terms of use, patents, etc. |
| 18:37.44 | Kaso | wait till midnight and check purl's logs :> |
| 18:37.52 | foxlit | <foxlit> Lopeppeppy:You're confusing immoral and illegal |
| 18:38.27 | foxlit | where it = gold farming/buying/selling/stuffs |
| 18:38.45 | wereHamster | funny: He is that rarest of World of Warcraft obsessives, a Chinese gold farmer who has actually bought farmed gold. |
| 18:39.10 | zenzelezz | gold farming is not wrong, I know lots of people that hoard it |
| 18:39.15 | Thunder_Child | i hope he got a discount |
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| 18:40.11 | Kaso | I also think that blizzard really do not mind so much about people buying gold |
| 18:40.23 | cog|work | O.o |
| 18:40.28 | Kaso | I know several people who simply wouldnt play if they could not buy gold, which is bad for blizzard |
| 18:40.36 | Thunder_Child | what gives you this insight? |
| 18:40.38 | Lopeppeppy | Sure'n they don't. *best Irish accent* |
| 18:41.00 | cog|work | Kaso: imagine how many more would leave if it were shown that blizzard didn't care... |
| 18:41.14 | cog|work | Trust me... Their best interest is far better served by caring. |
| 18:41.33 | TS|Skrom | Kaso: I would put money on the fact that for every person who would quit if they couldn't buy gold, there's two who WILL quit because people who buy gold make them unhappy with their toons when they chose not to buy gold. |
| 18:41.45 | zenzelezz | I wonder what the casual to hard-core player ratio is |
| 18:41.45 | Lopeppeppy | Blizzard doesn't have to care or not care. They have to protect their copyrights, patents and intellectual property. It's not about what they think, it's about practical business matters. |
| 18:41.47 | zenzelezz | in WoW |
| 18:42.35 | Kaso | which is why blizzard put token effort into it, but really do not do anything to limit gold trading, like they are doing currently, best of both worlds, those who dislike get to feel blizzard are doing "something" those who like can still get their gold. |
| 18:42.38 | wereHamster | chinese farmers: They moved through the dungeons in silent harmony, 40 intricately interdependent players, each the master of his part. I wish my raid was like that :( |
| 18:43.30 | Lopeppeppy | They have an active lawsuit, they ban 10's of thousands of accounts... that's pretty actively stepping out against the trade in virutal WoW goods. |
| 18:43.31 | cog|work | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:44.21 | Kaso | the 10's of thousands of accounts are farmer acconts which will just re-register (more money for blizzard) and the lawsuit against peons was more about the advertising than the selling, or am i miss-remebering |
| 18:44.34 | Lopeppeppy | Advertising IS selling. |
| 18:45.18 | Lopeppeppy | And re-registering the account is not more money for Blizzard, it's the exact same money. They're not doing it for money, they're doing it to protect their product and perhaps their players. |
| 18:45.47 | Lopeppeppy | Hopefully, each ban swipe actually loses them a bunch of farmer accounts, so they make LESS money overall. But they still do it. |
| 18:46.22 | Kaso | re-registering requres a new CD key which is £20 or whatever? |
| 18:46.35 | Lopeppeppy | Does it? |
| 18:46.41 | Lopeppeppy | Or just registering a new payment method? |
| 18:46.49 | Lopeppeppy | Not ever having had an account banned, I don't know. |
| 18:46.55 | cog|work | no... new account = new box essentially |
| 18:47.04 | krka | i'd imagine the cd key is banned forever |
| 18:47.16 | wereHamster | interesting read: http://www.nytimes.com/2007/06/17/magazine/17lootfarmers-t.html?ei=5088&en=a6282d1ddf608fc1&ex=1339732800&partner=rssnyt&emc=rss&pagewanted=all |
| 18:47.39 | Lopeppeppy | wereHamster: That's what started the discussion. :P |
| 18:47.41 | Kaso | hehe wereHamster |
| 18:49.57 | Kaso | also Lopeppeppy the distinction is advertising impacts the average player which is why they sued to stop it, whereas plain selling of gold does not so much. |
| 18:50.18 | wereHamster | oh, cog was faster :P I didn't know he also posted the link -.- |
| 18:50.18 | ckknight | also spam is easier legally. |
| 18:50.34 | Kaydeethree | ^ my thoughts entirely |
| 18:50.42 | foxlit | "Every World of Warcraft player needs those coins, and mostly for one reason: to pay for the virtual gear to fight the monsters to earn the points to reach the next level." |
| 18:50.50 | foxlit | Blatantly wrong :/ |
| 18:50.53 | Kaydeethree | they've got a better chance winning on the advertising aspect rather than the IP rights issues |
| 18:51.12 | Kaso | that makes sense also. |
| 18:51.29 | Kaso | foxlit, didnt you see the bit about the nelf mages!! |
| 18:52.04 | wereHamster | foxlit, repairs? |
| 18:52.16 | foxlit | repairs are pathetic |
| 18:52.38 | foxlit | And the game is raining gold at 70 at the moment. |
| 18:52.53 | foxlit | "No! Please! Take this gold! TAKE IT, FOXLIT!" |
| 18:52.58 | Kaso | haha |
| 18:53.18 | ScytheBlade1 | It's true |
| 18:53.19 | Lopeppeppy | One of the best ways to put gold sellers out of business... make it more available. |
| 18:53.30 | ScytheBlade1 | Spend 30m doing daily quests and pull in repairs for a few days |
| 18:53.49 | ckknight | but 5g mount |
| 18:53.57 | foxlit | k? |
| 18:53.59 | Kaso | 5kg? |
| 18:54.04 | foxlit | it's light! |
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| 18:54.17 | Kaso | i do think the mount is the thing that drove alot of normally not buying players to buy. |
| 18:54.32 | Mr_Rabies2 | I'm at 2000g again after getting epic flight |
| 18:54.37 | TS|Skrom | Lopeppeppy I disagree. That wouldn't put them out of business just increase their required quotas. |
| 18:54.40 | Mr_Rabies2 | there's no excuse at ALL to buy gold |
| 18:54.49 | Mr_Rabies2 | i didn't even vendor any of my quest greens or anything |
| 18:55.04 | Mr_Rabies2 | i Disenchanted all of them and am hoarding my enchanting mats like a maniac until i feel like leveling it |
| 18:55.14 | wereHamster | no, maybe, but before BC gold was much more valuable |
| 18:55.19 | wereHamster | s/no/now/ |
| 18:55.22 | Lopeppeppy | If I can get it on my own easier, I'm not as likely to go buy it. But that's just me, i would never have bought in the first place. |
| 18:55.27 | krka | just disallow you from mailing more than 1% of your total gold earnings from questing |
| 18:55.35 | Kaso | Alot of casuals are still flying around on slowbie mounts with <1k in their bags |
| 18:55.39 | krka | accumulative, of course |
| 18:55.44 | TS|Skrom | Lopeppeppy you answered your own statement. |
| 18:55.51 | Mr_Rabies2 | Kaso, i'm casual as hell |
| 18:55.52 | TS|Skrom | You wouldn't have bought inthe first place. |
| 18:55.53 | |Jelly| | The dilemma you're going to run into is people are willing to pay for instant gratification. : / |
| 18:55.54 | Mr_Rabies2 | i don't grind |
| 18:55.56 | Mr_Rabies2 | i just quest |
| 18:56.05 | Mr_Rabies2 | and questing nets you a metric fuckton of gold |
| 18:56.10 | Lopeppeppy | Ah, so because I have a personal view, that negates impartial thought? |
| 18:56.14 | TS|Skrom | No |
| 18:56.26 | Lopeppeppy | Then I fail to see what you're trying to point out. |
| 18:56.27 | TS|Skrom | It just means that just because you wouldn't buy it, doesn't mean someone else wouldn't |
| 18:56.33 | krka | seriously, wouldn't that work? forcing the gold sellers to grind 100x more to sell the same amount of gold? |
| 18:56.34 | Mr_Rabies2 | those people just suck at the game |
| 18:56.39 | TS|Skrom | increasing the supply doesn't hurt the sellers |
| 18:56.51 | Lopeppeppy | It doesn't necessarily help them either. |
| 18:57.00 | Mr_Rabies2 | it depends on demand's increase |
| 18:57.05 | TS|Skrom | Just being in existance is help enough for them :p |
| 18:57.08 | Mr_Rabies2 | demand has increased at a smaller rate than supply imo |
| 18:57.20 | Mr_Rabies2 | but gold is still reasonably valuable, especially compared to, say, diablo |
| 18:57.26 | TS|Skrom | Mr_Rabies2 that's very true, which is what has caused the drop in gold sellers prices |
| 18:57.27 | Mr_Rabies2 | i'm glad gold still has SOME value |
| 18:57.36 | Mr_Rabies2 | actually, gold seems to be more expensive |
| 18:57.42 | TS|Skrom | if gold had no value then every AH price would skyrocke |
| 18:57.42 | foxlit | tbh: if you need gold while under level 60, you need to stay the heck away from AH |
| 18:57.43 | TS|Skrom | t |
| 18:57.44 | Mr_Rabies2 | because they're getting banned more quickly |
| 18:58.41 | foxlit | At 70, well, you got gold through questing to buy your flying mount. The 5kg mount can wait, it's not really required. |
| 18:58.52 | Kaso | krka, that would work, but as i said earlier, my theory is that blizzard really do not want to stop gold farming once and for all, its a rather big cash cow (if you want to listen to my tinfoilhat style comments :> ) |
| 18:59.00 | Mr_Rabies2 | like i said i rarely played the AH |
| 18:59.03 | KarlThePagan | with the daily quests... it shouldn't be AS bad to get your epic flyer |
| 18:59.07 | Mr_Rabies2 | and never vendored greens |
| 18:59.12 | krka | i think blizzard is being serious about stopping what they consider cheating |
| 18:59.13 | Mr_Rabies2 | and yet i've gotten 7000g without even trying |
| 18:59.19 | Tem | ~logs |
| 18:59.19 | purl | logs is, like, apt/ibot/infobot/jbot/purl all log daily to http://ibot.rikers.org/<channelname>/ where channelname is html encoded ie: %23debian | lines that start with a space are not shown | some channels have stats at http://ibot.rikers.org/stats/<channelname>.html.gz |
| 18:59.21 | Lopeppeppy | I think so too, krka. |
| 18:59.27 | krka | they've come up with a couple of innovative solutions to it in general, imo |
| 18:59.27 | KarlThePagan | really people should be ready to loan money |
| 18:59.30 | |Jelly| | Hey Rabies, I'm 70, flying around on a non-epic mount with less than 100g. I guess I suck, huh? |
| 18:59.36 | Mr_Rabies2 | yes. |
| 18:59.41 | KarlThePagan | Mr_Rabies2, diaf then... 7kgold is not a trivial thing |
| 18:59.53 | Mr_Rabies2 | it's not useless, no |
| 18:59.55 | Lopeppeppy | I'll suck right along with ya, |Jelly|. ;) |
| 18:59.56 | Mr_Rabies2 | but it's really easy to get |
| 19:00.02 | KarlThePagan | again, diaf |
| 19:00.03 | Mr_Rabies2 | and i'm joking jelly :P |
| 19:00.03 | |Jelly| | I suppose the difference between me and you is that I don't grind. Ever. |
| 19:00.09 | Mr_Rabies2 | i dont eitehr |
| 19:00.11 | Mr_Rabies2 | either* |
| 19:00.24 | Mr_Rabies2 | i've never grinded for more than an hour, generally 15 minutes of it and i remember i hate it |
| 19:00.31 | |Jelly| | I can't say I honestly believe you...especially with your view on gold being worthless. |
| 19:00.40 | KarlThePagan | I also call bullshit |
| 19:00.45 | Mr_Rabies2 | <Mr_Rabies2> but gold is still reasonably valuable, especially compared to, say, diablo |
| 19:00.46 | Mr_Rabies2 | :O |
| 19:00.51 | wereHamster | |Jelly|, Lopeppeppy, I'[m not even 70!! I suck More than you all !!1!1 |
| 19:00.54 | Mr_Rabies2 | it's worth less but not worthless :P |
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| 19:01.09 | |Jelly| | You just don't get that much gold without grinding..........or buying............ |
| 19:01.20 | KarlThePagan | I finished leveling to 70 with a good amount of gold... before TBC I had maybe 800g after grinding cenarion circle rep |
| 19:01.23 | Lopeppeppy | And therefore, I have just enough gold for my modes needs. |
| 19:01.25 | krka | blizzard could do all sorts of small tweaks to nerf gold farmers... one of the things could be to implement diminishing returns if you're doing repetative killing |
| 19:01.28 | Mr_Rabies2 | well, herbs make me a decent amount, but they're nowhere near the main source of my gold |
| 19:01.43 | Kaydeethree | krka; but then non-goldfarmers are screwed |
| 19:01.44 | KarlThePagan | but that was only 3000g being conservative with my choices & gearing... didn't buy blue quality gems |
| 19:01.57 | krka | Kaydeethree: non-goldfarmers dont grind repetatively |
| 19:01.57 | Kaydeethree | I had to grind out ~10 primal fires in the past few days, nearly as many airs and waters |
| 19:01.59 | Mr_Rabies2 | Herbs have probably just made up the lost revenue from not vendoring greens |
| 19:02.02 | Lopeppeppy | krka, blizzard seems to be trying to do things that screw only the farmers, not the rest of the players. That takes more finesse, but they try. |
| 19:02.22 | KarlThePagan | and I do grind... I go fishing for primal waters, and I make at least 8-10g proffit on every alchem transmute I do |
| 19:02.27 | Mr_Rabies2 | seriously, questing at 70 makes you a TON of gold |
| 19:02.34 | KarlThePagan | not 7k |
| 19:02.43 | Mr_Rabies2 | that's been the majority of my gold :O |
| 19:02.48 | KarlThePagan | and I still don't have my cloth caster gear |
| 19:02.49 | Kaydeethree | meh. I've bought 2 epic mounts and I'm working on a third |
| 19:02.56 | Lopeppeppy | I can repair my gear after a hard hard raid, that's all I really need. |
| 19:02.57 | ScytheBlade1 | It can run you 2-3k easily |
| 19:03.00 | Mr_Rabies2 | i don't sell primals or anything, i sell herbs i happen upoon |
| 19:03.04 | Mr_Rabies2 | upon* |
| 19:03.05 | Mr_Rabies2 | rofl |
| 19:03.28 | Mr_Rabies2 | but still, questing is the majority of my gold |
| 19:03.37 | |Jelly| | Perhaps we're skewed on the term "grinding" because to me grinding is doing the same repetitive shit over and over again for hours, be it questing or looking for primals. |
| 19:03.48 | KarlThePagan | or looking for herbs |
| 19:03.51 | Mr_Rabies2 | well, i don't like grinding when there's no quest involved |
| 19:03.56 | KarlThePagan | which is exponentially easier with an epic flyer |
| 19:04.00 | Mr_Rabies2 | and i don't -look- for herbs |
| 19:04.04 | KarlThePagan | as well as about 100g per day of daily quests |
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| 19:04.06 | Mr_Rabies2 | i just find them :P |
| 19:04.26 | Kaydeethree | heh... netherwing was great. I probably made ~1700g getting to exalted |
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| 19:04.35 | Mr_Rabies2 | i'm still only honored |
| 19:04.39 | Lopeppeppy | Ah.... the Netherwing faction I can't quite figure out as of yet. |
| 19:04.42 | Mr_Rabies2 | cause i can't booterang from the air and i'm cheap as hell |
| 19:04.43 | Mr_Rabies2 | :[ |
| 19:04.49 | ScytheBlade1 | I still need my initial 5k gold down |
| 19:04.57 | Mr_Rabies2 | that's another reason i'm making gold like crazy |
| 19:04.58 | ScytheBlade1 | Then I have my nether ray sitting there for me |
| 19:05.09 | Mr_Rabies2 | i never ever spend it unless absolutely necessary |
| 19:05.09 | Kaydeethree | lope; my section on wowwiki's got a fairly extensive writeup |
| 19:05.16 | Kaydeethree | all of the quests, mobs, npcs, etc |
| 19:05.17 | KarlThePagan | I wish I had your 6th sense for herbs then Mr_Rabies2 because I do have to look at my minimap and do go on herbing sprees in azeroth... of course I also support several people with raid buffs |
| 19:05.39 | Lopeppeppy | I'll peek, Kaydeethree. Faction grinds have never been my thing, although it seems to be the only entertainment for a solo rogue these days. |
| 19:05.41 | Mr_Rabies2 | your best bet for herb money |
| 19:05.46 | Mr_Rabies2 | is just to fly over shadowmoon |
| 19:05.52 | Mr_Rabies2 | and gather nightmare vine like crazy |
| 19:06.04 | Mr_Rabies2 | that stuff sells for like 30g or so a stack |
| 19:06.09 | Mr_Rabies2 | and a stack takes about 5 mins to get |
| 19:06.11 | ScytheBlade1 | 50g a stack here |
| 19:06.20 | Mr_Rabies2 | yeah, it may be more |
| 19:06.22 | Mr_Rabies2 | i can't remember |
| 19:06.27 | Mr_Rabies2 | i don't really look at the number |
| 19:06.36 | KarlThePagan | Mr_Rabies2, sounds like you're looking for herbs |
| 19:06.36 | Kaydeethree | nw is no CC or timbermaw grind. do all of the daily quests once a day and you'll be exalted in 2 weeks with a few hours of work a day |
| 19:06.45 | Mr_Rabies2 | not really, nightmare vine is EVERYWHERE |
| 19:06.59 | KarlThePagan | you can't be on a high pop server then... |
| 19:07.06 | Mr_Rabies2 | 3rd highest alliance pop |
| 19:07.09 | Mr_Rabies2 | full, but no queue |
| 19:07.28 | Mr_Rabies2 | i'm just awesome, that's the only explanation :P |
| 19:07.31 | foxlit | Wow, I love the video |
| 19:07.41 | foxlit | "Gold than can be Sold for real money"... it almost rhymes! |
| 19:07.41 | KarlThePagan | Mr_Rabies2 clearly you play a different game than I do ;) |
| 19:08.02 | Mr_Rabies2 | your best bet is to act like a goblin with your cash |
| 19:08.26 | Mr_Rabies2 | never spend it unless you absolutely have to, and wait for deals :P |
| 19:08.29 | Lopeppeppy | "Mine. Mine." |
| 19:08.33 | Lopeppeppy | 'Mine" |
| 19:08.34 | Mr_Rabies2 | that and lots and lots of questing |
| 19:08.55 | KarlThePagan | this isn't news to me... that's how I had 3kg at 70 when most people I know had 0 |
| 19:09.06 | Mr_Rabies2 | i had about 1k when i hit 70 |
| 19:09.16 | Mr_Rabies2 | all the rest i made from finishing off every quest |
| 19:09.27 | Mr_Rabies2 | other than raid quests, so far |
| 19:09.39 | Mr_Rabies2 | and one quest that i get a net loss of gold and no rep for |
| 19:09.46 | Mr_Rabies2 | and the rewards suck |
| 19:09.57 | Mr_Rabies2 | that one with the +demon damage items that starts in shadowmoon |
| 19:10.20 | Kaydeethree | ? unless you paid massively over market price you make money doing that questline |
| 19:10.46 | Kaydeethree | I came out ahead |
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| 19:11.13 | Mr_Rabies2 | let's see, what's it called |
| 19:11.48 | Mr_Rabies2 | the demon warding totem costs 30g |
| 19:11.55 | Mr_Rabies2 | and you get 9g from completing it |
| 19:12.04 | Kaydeethree | the rest of the chain rewards money |
| 19:12.08 | zenzelezz | yeah, that quest sucks |
| 19:12.29 | Mr_Rabies2 | i thought the last part of that chain was the one where you get the +demon stuff |
| 19:12.40 | zenzelezz | but will you ever use those? |
| 19:12.53 | Mr_Rabies2 | nope |
| 19:12.58 | Kaydeethree | maybe to poke illidan with. I just did it for completion purposes |
| 19:12.58 | Mr_Rabies2 | i'll disenchant them on the spot |
| 19:13.13 | Mr_Rabies2 | but my weapons net me more damage to all mobs |
| 19:13.16 | Mr_Rabies2 | than those do to demons |
| 19:13.20 | zenzelezz | I didn't check; but I don't think Nihilum or anyone else bothered with +demon weapons for Illidan |
| 19:13.41 | Mr_Rabies2 | no, because the epics and stuff pre-illidan are much much better |
| 19:13.45 | Mr_Rabies2 | for ALL mobs |
| 19:13.46 | Kaydeethree | I highly doubt it. it'd just be a whack! -> equip real weapons kinda thing |
| 19:13.48 | Mr_Rabies2 | not just demons :P |
| 19:13.53 | zenzelezz | perhaps the 400ish trinket from Naxxramas |
| 19:13.55 | zenzelezz | but not weapons |
| 19:14.44 | Mr_Rabies2 | nightmare vine goes for 35-40 on my server |
| 19:14.54 | Mr_Rabies2 | (a stack) |
| 19:14.55 | zenzelezz | wait, Naxx was undead |
| 19:14.59 | zenzelezz | I r nub |
| 19:15.30 | Mr_Rabies2 | what a nub |
| 19:15.38 | zenzelezz | tis true |
| 19:15.53 | Mr_Rabies2 | i'm bored :( |
| 19:16.01 | Mr_Rabies2 | i'm out of quests other than dailies |
| 19:16.17 | Mr_Rabies2 | and i will not grind without a quest attached |
| 19:16.21 | sag_ich_nicht | lol |
| 19:16.48 | zenzelezz | I'm the same way |
| 19:16.54 | Kaydeethree | meh. my grinding is 'get to exalted so I can grind another faction to exalted' atm |
| 19:17.07 | Mr_Rabies2 | mine's not |
| 19:17.08 | zenzelezz | Lopeppeppy: sounds dirrtu |
| 19:17.11 | zenzelezz | *dirrrty |
| 19:17.18 | Mr_Rabies2 | i want the trinket from nw |
| 19:17.24 | Mr_Rabies2 | and the ogrila trinket |
| 19:17.26 | Kaydeethree | +45 stam is nice |
| 19:17.28 | Mr_Rabies2 | but thats it |
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| 19:33.59 | |Jelly| | GRR @ Peppy! |
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| 19:35.42 | Thunder_Child | hmm..do they call the spam noise? |
| 19:36.22 | Kaydeethree | I've just got show joins/parts disabled... |
| 19:36.42 | |Jelly| | Lucky. I've got like 250 lines of spam. 8P |
| 19:36.48 | Kaso | whats wrong with calling it noise? |
| 19:37.05 | |Jelly| | What is...everything? 8P |
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| 19:40.41 | TS|Skrom | |Jelly| <3 |
| 19:40.44 | |Jelly| | ? |
| 19:40.51 | TS|Skrom | the "will it end" thread |
| 19:41.09 | |Jelly| | IMO that's a stupid place to post that. |
| 19:41.49 | |Jelly| | "Hey guys who do this as much as they...sleep...work...whatever in their freetime as a hobby.....do you think you'll ever be just shut down? I think that would be swell because you're giving people an unfair advantage." |
| 19:42.43 | |Jelly| | Maybe I need a break though...it seems my posts are going down hill fast. |
| 19:42.59 | |Jelly| | Which means I feel another "You're an asshole" post coming on in response to something I said. |
| 19:43.27 | TS|Skrom | I could help you out with that if you like |
| 19:43.37 | |Jelly| | lol...I'm sure I don't need help. |
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| 19:43.41 | |Jelly| | I've already gotten one todya. |
| 19:43.43 | |Jelly| | today* |
| 19:44.08 | Kaydeethree | I'm surprised the op didn't say something to me after responding in that thread |
| 19:44.19 | |Jelly| | which one? |
| 19:45.30 | Kaydeethree | sequencing spells |
| 19:45.36 | |Jelly| | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=110546054&sid=1 For instance. My response would have been to google it. |
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| 19:46.40 | |Jelly| | hmm. I don't guess I remember what you wrote. |
| 19:46.46 | GnancyWork | heh Kaydeethree |
| 19:46.57 | |Jelly| | and of course now text search is disabled |
| 19:47.27 | |Jelly| | wow...lots more added to that thread. rofl |
| 19:48.46 | ckknight | ugh: I r in ur armory! Stealing ur specs! |
| 19:48.50 | ckknight | totally butchered it |
| 19:48.59 | GnancyWork | lol |
| 19:49.15 | ckknight | it's im in ur armory steelin ur spex |
| 19:49.19 | ckknight | gah |
| 19:49.31 | GnancyWork | hmm spex = glasses? |
| 19:49.54 | ckknight | yea, let's go with that |
| 19:50.49 | foxlit | Haha |
| 19:51.10 | foxlit | Lurker decided not to stop spouting after one revolution |
| 19:51.15 | foxlit | Disaster! |
| 19:51.16 | Kaydeethree | heh... |
| 19:51.25 | TS|Skrom | IM IN YR LOOP hehe |
| 19:51.32 | Kaydeethree | I'm going to get yelled at for responding in the upcoming 2.2 changes thread |
| 19:51.33 | |Jelly| | I'm confused. |
| 19:51.44 | |Jelly| | rut roah |
| 19:51.59 | TS|Skrom | ludicrous speed XD |
| 19:52.04 | |Jelly| | rofl |
| 19:52.22 | |Jelly| | At least you didn't take it all the way to BLITZKRIEG SPEED in one step. |
| 19:53.41 | ckknight | Kaydeethree: link! |
| 19:53.48 | Kaydeethree | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=102909678&postId=1104370364&sid=1#83 |
| 19:53.53 | GnancyWork | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=102909678&sid=1&pageNo=5 |
| 19:54.03 | GnancyWork | oh too slow |
| 19:54.59 | Kaso | I wonder why he said "Game Code" |
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| 19:56.08 | |Jelly| | Peppy. If you're there. <333 |
| 19:56.11 | TS|Skrom | |Jelly| he's back |
| 19:56.17 | TS|Skrom | and he's trying to make a point |
| 19:56.28 | |Jelly| | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=110635952&sid=1 peppy pretty much STFU'd him |
| 19:59.01 | |Jelly| | lol |
| 19:59.09 | |Jelly| | we're like 4-tag-teaming (???) him |
| 19:59.10 | |Jelly| | poor guy |
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| 20:00.27 | |Jelly| | I'm too hyper right now. I can't make a flowing thought...I'm all over the place. 8( |
| 20:00.45 | TS|Skrom | he just got beat by some rogue with energy watch and a stun counter |
| 20:01.00 | |Jelly| | Probably |
| 20:01.19 | TS|Skrom | damn rogues and their stunlock |
| 20:01.28 | TS|Skrom | how the heck am I supposed to heal my team when I can't even move |
| 20:01.33 | TS|Skrom | sorry that was me, not him :P |
| 20:01.44 | |Jelly| | They're hacking!! OMG! Take their addons away!!! |
| 20:02.07 | TS|Skrom | I applaud a good rogue that can stunlock me though. |
| 20:02.21 | Kaydeethree | woo for the armory crashing firefox... |
| 20:03.04 | |Jelly| | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=110546049&postId=1104669559&sid=1#6 is my "technical" response correct? I seem to remember that when I was asking about shadowform way back when |
| 20:03.20 | |Jelly| | you'll have to sift through my douchebaggery first... |
| 20:03.24 | TS|Skrom | lol |
| 20:03.36 | TS|Skrom | I thought it was a fair response. I was just playing good cop for a chance |
| 20:03.42 | TS|Skrom | change* |
| 20:04.22 | |Jelly| | Perhaps I was alone in thinking my response told them that I had tried it and it never worked. |
| 20:04.24 | |Jelly| | *shrug* |
| 20:04.43 | GnancyWork | my exp is that if GDC isnt called you can spam the macro |
| 20:04.52 | GnancyWork | if it is the macro wont work |
| 20:05.02 | |Jelly| | Read the subject. That's where her flaw is. |
| 20:05.06 | GnancyWork | with/stopcasting |
| 20:05.16 | GnancyWork | kk |
| 20:05.29 | TS|Skrom | That would have been my next suggestion. It's still in the spirit of the thread, but would actually work for her |
| 20:05.33 | |Jelly| | Not trying to be a jerk. She just expects it to work in one keypress. |
| 20:05.37 | TS|Skrom | why I asked her to post the macro |
| 20:06.33 | |Jelly| | Technical Editing question: Is white on black easier to read than black on white? |
| 20:06.56 | TS|Skrom | I always found white on black easier |
| 20:06.57 | |Jelly| | cause maybe my brightness is just too high but black on white hurts my eyes for whatever reason. |
| 20:07.01 | TS|Skrom | but that's prolly personal preference |
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| 20:10.30 | TS|Skrom | ./palmface |
| 20:10.44 | |Jelly| | ? |
| 20:10.47 | TS|Skrom | I've been avoiding adding another hotkey bar for my greater blessings |
| 20:10.59 | TS|Skrom | I just realized I could use Button1/button2 macros for blessing greater blessings |
| 20:11.03 | |Jelly| | <3 bartender3 for hiding bars until rollover. |
| 20:11.08 | |Jelly| | don't know how i lived without it |
| 20:11.11 | TS|Skrom | eh? |
| 20:11.21 | TS|Skrom | I don't recall that particular function |
| 20:11.43 | |Jelly| | It's in the one on the updater. *shrug* They call it "Fade Out" |
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| 20:11.57 | TS|Skrom | oh, but it snapps to full on mouseover? |
| 20:12.20 | TS|Skrom | snaps...not schapps or snapps... |
| 20:12.34 | TS|Skrom | my spelling is horrible today |
| 20:12.49 | |Jelly| | yeah. I can get some quick screens for you if you want. |
| 20:13.09 | TS|Skrom | that's okay, I just assumed the fade out option was for people that like to have a semi transparent look |
| 20:13.15 | TS|Skrom | I didn't even bother trying XD |
| 20:13.48 | TS|Skrom | that's kinda cool, still think I'll go with the macros on this one, just as easy and no extra bars (even hidden ones lol) |
| 20:13.57 | pastamancer | I use a /cast [modifier:ctrl] Greater Blessing of Foo; Blessing of Foo macro |
| 20:14.07 | |Jelly| | To each their own. 8P |
| 20:15.05 | GnancyWork | jelly am i your god cop for today? |
| 20:15.15 | |Jelly| | ? |
| 20:15.17 | TS|Skrom | hope you meant good |
| 20:15.32 | |Jelly| | I generally don't start anything that I can't defend myself. lol |
| 20:15.35 | TS|Skrom | otherwise that didn't make sense :P |
| 20:15.38 | |Jelly| | She's being a bitch and I called her on it. |
| 20:16.09 | |Jelly| | Just as I'm sure she or someone like her will me in the near future -- especially if people keep distracting me from writing this readme. |
| 20:16.30 | TS|Skrom | |Jelly| |
| 20:16.34 | TS|Skrom | Whatcha doin |
| 20:16.55 | |Jelly| | Oh. And I don't mind arguing. The question was answered already so all I'm doing is bumping a post so we don't have to answer it again in 15 minutes. |
| 20:17.05 | |Jelly| | Someone wanted me to upload my UI. |
| 20:17.19 | TS|Skrom | |Jelly| |
| 20:17.22 | TS|Skrom | Why.... |
| 20:17.24 | |Jelly| | And well, instead of answering a million questions for everyone that downloads it, I'm just going to write a readme. |
| 20:17.25 | TS|Skrom | *snicker* |
| 20:17.31 | GnancyWork | ohh ohhhh look at me Jelly! |
| 20:17.37 | GnancyWork | no readme for you! |
| 20:17.39 | TS|Skrom | *distracting shot* |
| 20:18.07 | |Jelly| | And sorry Gnancy, I wasn't trying to be a jerk a second ago...I'm kind of wired and well...I turn into a jerk when I'm hyper. |
| 20:18.13 | GnancyWork | not at all |
| 20:18.18 | GnancyWork | im having fun! |
| 20:18.39 | |Jelly| | And so you know, I've made the frame set and the title! |
| 20:18.43 | |Jelly| | Step 1. Done. |
| 20:18.53 | |Jelly| | I hope I hit the profit step soon. |
| 20:19.38 | TS|Skrom | haha |
| 20:19.48 | TS|Skrom | it's almost time to go home! |
| 20:19.51 | TS|Skrom | 11 mins and counting! |
| 20:19.56 | KarlThePagan | hey AnduinLothar if you're there, did LookLock ever get resurrected? |
| 20:20.02 | TS|Skrom | I feel like I had such a productive day at work |
| 20:20.09 | |Jelly| | lol |
| 20:20.10 | TS|Skrom | even though the only thing I did was write that Thespian addon |
| 20:20.19 | TS|Skrom | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:20.32 | |Jelly| | Those are the best days at work. |
| 20:20.33 | TS|Skrom | but hey, I get paid still so 3) profit for me = win! |
| 20:20.40 | |Jelly| | grr |
| 20:21.00 | GnancyWork | 3 more mins left for me |
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| 20:24.43 | GnancyWork | jelly are you there? |
| 20:25.59 | |Jelly| | yeah |
| 20:26.10 | |Jelly| | half way through my opening page 8P |
| 20:26.20 | Kaydeethree | heh, and my first model-changing c/p of the week. /sigh |
| 20:26.23 | GnancyWork | do you happen to use ClearFont. I really like the font selecion in your SS |
| 20:26.31 | |Jelly| | Yeah |
| 20:27.04 | GnancyWork | kk its time to switch fonts |
| 20:27.24 | |Jelly| | If I recall, the font that I use for...everything but Prat is Enviro but without checking, I can't be certain. |
| 20:27.59 | AnduinLothar | KarlThePagan: no, look lock can be done witha few macros i believe. i dunno if it was made into an addon by someone else |
| 20:28.15 | KarlThePagan | I should get off my ass then :P |
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| 20:29.02 | Kaydeethree | egah |
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| 20:30.53 | TS|Skrom | I smell eBay |
| 20:31.10 | TS|Skrom | You just figured out... at level 70 that you don't like the way Draenei look? |
| 20:31.20 | |Jelly| | can I quote you on that? rofl |
| 20:31.23 | TS|Skrom | sure |
| 20:31.41 | |Jelly| | fin |
| 20:32.20 | TS|Skrom | I'm famouse I've been quoted on the wow forums... *glee* |
| 20:32.33 | TS|Skrom | okay quittin' time see y'all next time. |
| 20:32.38 | |Jelly| | Take it easy |
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| 20:55.02 | ScytheBlade1 | /script SetDungeonDifficulty(3); -- wtb working Epic instances |
| 20:55.12 | Josh_Borke | heh |
| 20:55.34 | ScytheBlade1 | The command works, and it sets the difficulty to Epi |
| 20:55.35 | ScytheBlade1 | *Epic |
| 20:55.39 | ScytheBlade1 | But... can't zone in :/ |
| 20:55.44 | Josh_Borke | that'll be awesome |
| 20:55.49 | Josh_Borke | i'm guessing that's for the next lvl cap? |
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| 20:56.04 | ScytheBlade1 | I kinda hope it'll be in soon personally |
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| 20:56.07 | ScytheBlade1 | Heroics are easy |
| 20:56.15 | Josh_Borke | :-( |
| 20:56.42 | ScytheBlade1 | Admittedly, my group is stacked... but they're still easy :P |
| 20:57.32 | KarlThePagan | you finished the Naaru trial in arcatraz then? |
| 20:57.44 | ScytheBlade1 | Yup |
| 20:57.51 | ScytheBlade1 | Trials = done |
| 20:58.01 | KarlThePagan | ssc gear? |
| 20:58.04 | Josh_Borke | stacked how? |
| 20:58.07 | ScytheBlade1 | When your druid tank has 27k armor, it's... trivial |
| 20:58.11 | KarlThePagan | kek |
| 20:58.21 | ScytheBlade1 | Throw in a priest with 1600 +heal, a mage, rogue, and another rogue |
| 20:58.40 | Josh_Borke | that's pretty nice |
| 20:59.00 | ScytheBlade1 | It really couldn't be any better |
| 20:59.05 | ScytheBlade1 | But it makes me want epic instances :/ |
| 21:00.18 | ScytheBlade1 | But no @ SSC gear actually |
| 21:00.24 | ScytheBlade1 | We just tend to chain run heroics ;P |
| 21:03.17 | KarlThePagan | cool |
| 21:04.53 | KarlThePagan | I haven't even finished arcatraz without an offhealer for the last boss |
| 21:07.32 | Arrowmaster | skyriss is perty easy, its getting to him thats harder |
| 21:08.10 | zenzelezz | agreed |
| 21:08.17 | zenzelezz | those abyssals hurt |
| 21:08.32 | ScytheBlade1 | The only boss which really gave us trouble was Morkar the Crackler or whatver |
| 21:08.34 | ScytheBlade1 | *whatever |
| 21:08.43 | ScytheBlade1 | The crab one |
| 21:08.55 | zenzelezz | the what? In SP? |
| 21:08.55 | ScytheBlade1 | Three squishies + stacking poison makes the healing light |
| 21:09.07 | ScytheBlade1 | yeah |
| 21:09.16 | zenzelezz | before they made him only DoT the tank? |
| 21:09.22 | ScytheBlade1 | *nod* |
| 21:09.25 | ScytheBlade1 | Was a trick |
| 21:09.26 | zenzelezz | I can imagine |
| 21:09.32 | ScytheBlade1 | Poor rogues... |
| 21:09.44 | ScytheBlade1 | Poor priest rather, heh |
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| 21:23.32 | zenzelezz | so we're buffing up before Prince Malchezaar, had one wipe |
| 21:23.43 | zenzelezz | "click for HS" |
| 21:23.54 | zenzelezz | and we all click. Then I start wondering "what's a doom portal" |
| 21:24.05 | Kaydeethree | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:24.06 | ScytheBlade1 | lol |
| 21:24.16 | ScytheBlade1 | Nah, promote the guy imo |
| 21:24.26 | Josh_Borke | lol |
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| 21:26.19 | Holyfaith | Wondering if it's possible to recieve RSS feed about updates of my favourite addons at wowinterface. |
| 21:26.47 | Kaydeethree | I've just got http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/latest.php bookmarked |
| 21:27.45 | Holyfaith | yeah, I know I can subscribe for latest addons, but if there's a option to filter it only to addons I use. |
| 21:27.47 | Josh_Borke | Holyfaith: good idea for premium membership |
| 21:29.04 | Holyfaith | maybe there's a option to filter RSS by name :) |
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| 21:33.56 | Dotted | Josh_Borke would be sad if you had to pay for such a simple feature oO |
| 21:34.36 | zenzelezz | this is new... |
| 21:35.07 | zenzelezz | [Raid] [...]: I bet Zenzio is a girl with a hot sexy voice that makes every 15 year old boy jerk off |
| 21:35.12 | zenzelezz | since I don't speak on Ventrilo |
| 21:35.24 | Holyfaith | ha! I got it, just made all new gmail account to send the info about new updates of my fav addons and subscribed to RSS feed @ gmail ;P |
| 21:36.32 | Thunder_Child | lolz @ zenzelezz |
| 21:47.21 | N00bZXI | Zenzio: Haha, I hear you.. you don't want to know what people have told me reguarding my comp's mic port being cracked |
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| 22:18.14 | krka | brillant! http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info6063-AceCalc-ACommandlineCalculator.html |
| 22:18.44 | zenzelezz | hahaha |
| 22:19.42 | Cide | indeed |
| 22:19.50 | Cide | I linked it a week ago or so |
| 22:19.55 | N00bZXI | lol |
| 22:20.08 | N00bZXI | I don't seem to get cladhaire's comment though. |
| 22:20.09 | Cide | it uses 14 or 15 libraries to.. create a table |
| 22:20.17 | Industrial | does it have 4 menus, a fubar display,etc? |
| 22:20.22 | Industrial | right. lol. |
| 22:20.35 | ckknight | I don't get Cairenn's comment |
| 22:20.37 | Cide | it's true |
| 22:20.39 | Cide | AceCalc = AceLibrary("AceAddon-2.0"):new("AceConsole-2.0", "AceEvent-2.0") |
| 22:20.41 | Cide | replace with |
| 22:20.43 | ckknight | oh wait |
| 22:20.44 | Cide | AceCalc = { } |
| 22:20.45 | ckknight | that's cladhaire |
| 22:20.49 | Cide | and it works all the same |
| 22:21.02 | Cide | well |
| 22:21.07 | ckknight | I don't get his comment |
| 22:21.09 | Cide | 150 times more efficient, of course |
| 22:21.20 | ckknight | Cide: all it is is /dump |
| 22:21.21 | ckknight | :-P |
| 22:21.26 | ckknight | least that's all you need |
| 22:21.28 | Cide | ckknight: actually, no |
| 22:21.32 | cladhaire | ckknight: my comment, is because we get "Can you please Ace this so its available via AceSVN" |
| 22:21.45 | Cide | it's simpler than /dump, iirc |
| 22:21.51 | ckknight | Cide: true |
| 22:21.58 | ckknight | I didn't know Dongle had a unique relationship with wowi |
| 22:22.00 | N00bZXI | Ya, replace : with . replace self with the addon name |
| 22:22.07 | cladhaire | ... |
| 22:22.14 | cladhaire | you did notice that the addon was on wowinterface? |
| 22:22.16 | cladhaire | thus it was a joke? |
| 22:22.17 | N00bZXI | And replace the addon name with acelibrary function with {} and it should be standalone |
| 22:22.21 | ckknight | yea, I know, it seemed weird |
| 22:22.21 | Fin | ckknight: oh man, it's the most unique relationship out of all of them |
| 22:22.26 | ckknight | it seems more confusing than joking |
| 22:22.28 | N00bZXI | cladhaire: Yep, hence why I say I didn't 'get' it |
| 22:22.33 | cladhaire | alrighty then |
| 22:23.04 | Cide | the comment's hilarious |
| 22:23.21 | Fin | probably the most unique relationship that doesn't exist anywhere else |
| 22:23.37 | N00bZXI | What does that have to do with Dongle or WoWI though? |
| 22:23.40 | N00bZXI | I still don't get it |
| 22:23.50 | Industrial | N00bZXI; "can you ace this so its available on wau?" |
| 22:24.17 | N00bZXI | Industrial: But what does that have to do with Dongle or WoWI? Different library/website |
| 22:24.37 | Industrial | N00bZXI; its the other way around. |
| 22:24.53 | cladhaire | yeah, *sigh* |
| 22:25.59 | N00bZXI | Industrial: Alright I understand it now, but I still don't see what's funny |
| 22:26.17 | Industrial | N00bZXI; its funny cause its true. |
| 22:26.27 | cladhaire | hold on a second. |
| 22:26.31 | cladhaire | lemme see if i can illustrate |
| 22:26.38 | Fin | got to catch the first, first! |
| 22:27.46 | cladhaire | http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/fileinfo.php?id=6887&so=&page=3 |
| 22:27.55 | cladhaire | fourth comment |
| 22:28.02 | cladhaire | and make sure to look at the mod |
| 22:28.42 | [Ammo] | silly people |
| 22:28.59 | N00bZXI | Ah, I get it now |
| 22:29.03 | N00bZXI | rofl |
| 22:29.45 | N00bZXI | Sad though, that WoWAce is now the addon site of choice for people too lazy to update a mod themselves |
| 22:30.24 | Antiarc|Work | Most people saying that "this addon needs to be aced" are just saying "I want to be able to update this addon through WAU" |
| 22:30.52 | N00bZXI | Exactly :\ |
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| 22:31.31 | Antiarc|Work | I really, really, really love the 20-minute build interval in the wowace SVN, because really, I'm a damned lazy bastard when it comes to publishing my crap |
| 22:31.37 | ScytheBlade1 | Industrial, I'm a perpetual beta tester. :) |
| 22:31.45 | Antiarc|Work | On the other hand, I drycode a change and check it in and I get 93 people saying ZOMG IT BROKE FIX IT PLZ |
| 22:32.02 | mikma | cladhaire: rofl |
| 22:32.08 | [Ammo] | Antiarc|Work: buy an asbestos suit and tell em 'sod off' :) |
| 22:32.21 | Antiarc|Work | [Ammo]: "It's beta, wait for the next commit" :P |
| 22:32.37 | Industrial | its beta wait for the next release on wowi |
| 22:32.38 | Industrial | :P |
| 22:32.47 | N00bZXI | The only real thing Ace offers to it's users is things like Dewdrop/Waterfall/SharedMedia |
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| 22:32.56 | N00bZXI | imo |
| 22:32.58 | Antiarc|Work | Its users or its developers? |
| 22:33.08 | JoshBorke | WAU |
| 22:33.10 | N00bZXI | Users, it offers more to developers |
| 22:33.12 | Antiarc|Work | As a user, I loved when I discovered the ace suite because everything had consistent configuration |
| 22:33.18 | N00bZXI | Exactly |
| 22:33.30 | ckknight | N00bZXI: you do realize that with a framework (including stuff like AceEvent), then developers could work faster and release more often, being better for users |
| 22:33.33 | Antiarc|Work | The worst part of a new mod if figuring out what obscure slash command the author decided to give it. |
| 22:33.41 | Antiarc|Work | DeuceCommander made me an extremely happy user. |
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| 22:33.59 | Antiarc|Work | I think the biggest benefit to the user is just consistency, really. |
| 22:34.02 | ckknight | Antiarc|Work: hey, same for me, I originally liked Ace cause AceCmd-1.0 was standard |
| 22:34.02 | N00bZXI | ckknight: Yes, I do. As a matter of fact if I were writing anything big I'd probably use it for exactly that reason. |
| 22:34.40 | N00bZXI | Eh, some mods I used to use I had to search through the lua to figure out what slash they used or how to configure them |
| 22:34.50 | Antiarc|Work | Same, N00bZXI |
| 22:34.59 | Antiarc|Work | That was kinda standard for me upon getting a new mod, actually |
| 22:35.04 | Antiarc|Work | Which is really, really bad for users. |
| 22:35.18 | Cide | so is, you know |
| 22:35.26 | Cide | configuring it through dropdowns :) |
| 22:35.38 | Antiarc|Work | It's only slightly worse than every mod printing out a "THIS IS HOW YOU USE ME" message on UI load. |
| 22:35.49 | Industrial | I write for myself and share it, dont make any configurability and say so :P |
| 22:36.01 | Antiarc|Work | Eh. Dropdowns are better than digging through slash commands, IMO. They're clunky sometimes, admittedly, but not always. |
| 22:36.02 | N00bZXI | Industrial: Same, except I don't share it as of now. |
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| 22:36.43 | N00bZXI | Ace prettymuch can give users the choice of using slash, dropdowns, or waterfall, which is nice because some people prefer different things |
| 22:37.11 | TS|Skrom | someone real quick log into uldum, make a warrior and level it up to 50ish and play in BRD with me |
| 22:38.41 | Gnarfoz | sure, be right there |
| 22:39.04 | TS|Skrom | hehe sweet! I'll tell the group! |
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| 22:39.20 | Fin | hey! isn't it about time we discussed the pros and cons of Ace2 vs Ace and other alternatives, I'd especially like to ask a few questions about embedded libs and their memory consumption after we've covered the basics of what libraries are needed or desired for what types of applications |
| 22:39.41 | TS|Skrom | ~lart Fin |
| 22:39.41 | purl | pushes the wall down onto Fin whilst whistling innocently |
| 22:39.51 | Fin | hello wall! |
| 22:43.26 | N00bZXI | Either way, best mods are what you write yourself imo |
| 22:54.47 | N00bZXI | Question: Is there any point in releasing no-configuration mods? |
| 22:55.02 | Antiarc|Work | Sure, why not? |
| 22:55.24 | N00bZXI | Nobody except yourself might use it? |
| 22:55.24 | Antiarc|Work | Unless you mean no-config to mean something other than "a mod that requires no config" |
| 22:55.38 | Antiarc|Work | I guess I need an example |
| 22:55.47 | N00bZXI | I mean a mod that could use config but has none because it only does what the author wants |
| 22:55.57 | N00bZXI | Exactly as the author wants |
| 22:57.36 | Dotted | N00bZXI well telo's quickloot was pretty much popular |
| 22:57.40 | N00bZXI | Antiarc|Work: For example a tooltip mod that displays units you mouse over in one format and you can't change anything |
| 22:57.46 | N00bZXI | Dotted: What COULD you configure for that? |
| 22:57.47 | Fin | I can give you one: SendSelf |
| 22:58.04 | Fin | anyway, the answer is: it depends on what colours you prefer |
| 22:58.30 | Dotted | N00bZXI various thing like if the loot box should always follow cursor or just on the initial loot |
| 22:58.32 | Antiarc|Work | N00bZXI: Sure, I guess. Just make it clear it doesn't do much. |
| 22:58.37 | N00bZXI | Would it be better if I pastey'd something? |
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| 23:01.25 | N00bZXI | Anyway, if I were looking to release something on WoWI, where would I go? |
| 23:01.34 | Fin | what is it? |
| 23:02.13 | N00bZXI | Well there's more than one thing I've written that might be useful for someone |
| 23:03.00 | Fin | this is the part where you explain what that is |
| 23:03.29 | N00bZXI | I'm asking if there's a form or something somewhere where I can submit? |
| 23:03.36 | Fin | please |
| 23:03.47 | Fin | oh go on, don't leave me in suspense |
| 23:03.56 | TS|Skrom | login to your account, go to Upload and Update I think |
| 23:04.38 | Fin | http://www.wowinterface.com/forums/faq.php?faq=managing |
| 23:05.02 | N00bZXI | Fin: As of now I don't even know what I'd decide to release or not, but I guess I'll list what I have: An AH mod, a mod that displays buffs you don't have, a chat mod, an inspect mod, a map mod, a minimap mod, and a tooltip mod. |
| 23:05.19 | N00bZXI | I guess I'll release something since there's a point in doing so |
| 23:06.11 | Fin | indecision rulez! possibly! |
| 23:06.47 | Fin | honestly mate, sounds like you've done a lot of work for something you find useful; chances are there's some else in the world who might find it similarly useful |
| 23:07.20 | Fin | you are possibly lacking in pride and hubris |
| 23:07.33 | N00bZXI | Fin: Well, that just came to me a few minutes ago. |
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| 23:11.09 | foxlit | I've got a 2.2 request: |
| 23:11.13 | foxlit | Make arena groups not raids. |
| 23:11.43 | foxlit | (i.e. UnitInRaid("player") == false while in an arena) |
| 23:15.01 | Antiarc|Work | UnitInRaid("player") and select(2, IsInInstnace()) ~= "arena" |
| 23:15.16 | N00bZXI | GetNumRaidMembers > 5 |
| 23:15.23 | N00bZXI | GetNumRaidMembers() * |
| 23:18.05 | N00bZXI | Question: Is there any way to get a buff's texture knowing only the buff's name? |
| 23:20.49 | Antiarc|Work | I doubt it, unless you have teh buff. |
| 23:23.08 | Antiarc|Work | N00bZXI: If you use Babble-Spell, I believe it allows you to correlate names with textures. |
| 23:23.24 | TS|Skrom | how are you getting the name N00bZXI |
| 23:23.58 | pastamancer | and if you'll recall Lothaeb, there are debuffs with the same name but different textures |
| 23:25.24 | N00bZXI | Antiarc|Work: Well my addons are way too small to use Ace |
| 23:25.42 | N00bZXI | Hmm, I guess I'll just add a second arg to the register function being the icon |
| 23:27.57 | foxlit | N00bZXI: Impossible! |
| 23:27.58 | ckknight | meh, you don't have to use all of ace if you use Babble-Spell |
| 23:28.03 | ckknight | I mean, look at AtlasLoot |
| 23:28.14 | foxlit | N00bZXI: Adding ace to your addons will decrease their memory footprint by legions of megabytes! |
| 23:29.09 | foxlit | Antiarc|Work: that's all nice and dandy, BUT you're still considered in a raid by almost all UI features. I'd rather be considered in a party |
| 23:29.13 | N00bZXI | foxlit: My addons already use ~0.01mb and are less than 100 lines long for the most part |
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| 23:29.38 | N00bZXI | If I used ace it would be for the same reason as AceCalc used it... to make a table |
| 23:29.39 | foxlit | Obviously adding ace would make them actually free up 10mb of memory and be less than 1 line long |
| 23:31.52 | TS|Skrom | you know it wasn't til I read the "less then 1 line long" part about 3 times that I realized that was sarcasm XD |
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| 23:32.56 | foxlit | subtle trolling <3 |
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| 23:33.57 | N00bZXI | Question: Is there any alternative to #{frame:GetRegions()} |
| 23:34.06 | Corrodias | tonight, we're gonna rock MC |
| 23:34.25 | Industrial | anyone got a cam? |
| 23:35.10 | zenzelezz | cam? |
| 23:35.15 | zenzelezz | pics plz? |
| 23:35.20 | bleeter | Industrial: asl? |
| 23:35.29 | Industrial | no imserious |
| 23:35.35 | bleeter | me2 |
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| 23:35.40 | N00bZXI | I imagine using a table's really not needed to get the number of values a function returns.. |
| 23:35.41 | Industrial | http://confabio.com/wowi-lounge |
| 23:36.17 | Corrodias | You need to upgrade your Flash Player |
| 23:36.26 | bleeter | Corrodias: enable JS ;) |
| 23:36.33 | N00bZXI | Enable javascript |
| 23:36.33 | Corrodias | anyway, i have this guy on my AIM friends list, and we absolutely cannot figure out who each other are |
| 23:36.35 | Corrodias | oh, good point |
| 23:36.46 | bleeter | and by the looks of things, port 4000 outbound |
| 23:37.58 | Industrial | gogo people join |
| 23:37.59 | Industrial | :P |
| 23:38.09 | cladhaire | yeah its lonely in here |
| 23:38.09 | cladhaire | lol |
| 23:38.13 | Corrodias | i have no "cam" |
| 23:43.30 | Industrial | noone else brave enough to show him (her?) self? |
| 23:44.02 | zenzelezz | I fetch my robe and wizard's hat |
| 23:44.16 | zenzelezz | don't think I have the webcam installed though |
| 23:44.35 | Industrial | I slip out of my pants, just for you, zenzelezz. |
| 23:44.53 | N00bZXI | I don't even have a working mic port.. |
| 23:44.54 | zenzelezz | you don't IRC nude? |
| 23:45.24 | Industrial | not in public channels |
| 23:45.34 | zenzelezz | guess it's just me :-( |
| 23:49.43 | zenzelezz | not everyone can handle it |
| 23:50.00 | Thunder_Child | indeed |
| 23:50.11 | zenzelezz | if I was American I would now say "amg no pun intended @ handle it !!!!!" |
| 23:50.59 | Kaydeethree | woo for being bored... I'm flying around shattrath with ~15 booterangs trying their hardest to catch me |
| 23:51.03 | ckknight | ~moredots |
| 23:51.04 | purl | You are going to DPS very, very slowly... and I mean f*cking slow! |
| 23:51.09 | zenzelezz | I have a distaste for mainstream American humor :-/ |
| 23:51.11 | Industrial | mmm pizza |
| 23:51.30 | zenzelezz | what's a booterang? |
| 23:52.32 | Kaydeethree | netherwing quest item at friendly+, throw one at disobedient dragonmaw peons and there's a new object floating around in 3d space trying to catch back up to you |
| 23:53.00 | zenzelezz | sounds similar to a boomerang then |
| 23:53.03 | Kaydeethree | epic mounts are faster than booterangs, so it's possible to outrun them |
| 23:53.04 | Kaydeethree | ya |
| 23:53.13 | Kaydeethree | www.wowwiki.com/Booterang |
| 23:53.38 | zenzelezz | I'll have to get me one of those |
| 23:54.20 | N00bZXI | Question: Is there any easy way to detect if someone is a herbalist or miner? |
| 23:54.33 | Kaydeethree | nope |
| 23:54.46 | N00bZXI | great |
| 23:55.44 | zenzelezz | could check the tracking texture perhaps, but that'd only work when they have it active |
| 23:58.43 | Antiarc|Work | Sure, scan the spellbook. |
| 23:58.57 | bleeter | could someone explain the mechanics of this to me... I frostbolt a daggermaw lashtail (raptor) from around 30 yards. it gets hit by the 'freeze in place' proc, yet I get knocked over by the lashtail's 'charge' |
| 23:59.31 | bleeter | happened to me yesterday on a charging ogre, too |
| 23:59.39 | zenzelezz | bleeter: the force can have a strong effect on a weak mind |
