| 00:02.08 | KriLL3 | N00bZXI: check it out: :) rough drafts of caster and cat UIs using the addon you guys helped me piece together to switch bars and eePanels http://img170.imageshack.us/img170/9623/wowscrnshot061707015742mg6.jpg http://img170.imageshack.us/img170/9907/wowscrnshot061707015756dj9.jpg |
| 00:03.38 | N00bZXI | KriLL3: Haven't seen a UI using those textures for quite some time. |
| 00:03.56 | Aella | That's one of the better UIs I've seen. |
| 00:04.30 | KriLL3 | well the cat one uses part of the fansite kits, and the leaves thing comes from DART (read the permissions, it's ok to use them for personal use) |
| 00:05.00 | KriLL3 | Aella: I can do better, it's a very rough draft, and I'm gonna add bear and flightform visuals |
| 00:05.31 | KriLL3 | pondering what I'll do for bear... flight I already know, feathers and wings and stuff, as little as possible and no bars or other elements visible at all |
| 00:05.54 | KriLL3 | only the chat frames with a minimalistic frame/background, nothing more |
| 00:10.21 | foxlit | Lua-wise, what's the difference between require and dofile? |
| 00:10.33 | foxlit | ~pil |
| 00:10.34 | purl | somebody said pil was Programming in Lua. The first edition is available free online at http://www.lua.org/pil and covers Lua 5.0. The second edition is available in hardcover and covers Lua 5.1. |
| 00:10.38 | cladhaire | require uses the module system |
| 00:10.41 | cladhaire | and can load c modules |
| 00:10.45 | cladhaire | dofile is the equivalent of |
| 00:11.42 | bleeter | you know what I hate more than anything? |
| 00:11.45 | cladhaire | function dofile(filename) local file = io.open(filename, "r") assert(file) local buff = file:read("*all") local succ,err = loadstring(buff) assert(succ, err) return succ() end |
| 00:11.45 | nymbia | N00bZXI: OnTooltipSetItem gets called OnUpdate for most items. i don't see any reason that it should be run for units, but you never know. |
| 00:11.47 | cladhaire | or somethign like that |
| 00:11.59 | bleeter | using wow keys/mouse movements to change the PoV in a dang SS! |
| 00:12.08 | cladhaire | bleeter: hahah word |
| 00:13.32 | nymbia | N00bZXI: actually, i'm fairly sure that SetUnit only happens once, but, don't make assumptions just because something would be perfectly logical behavior ;) |
| 00:13.42 | N00bZXI | nymbia: Already made sure it wasn't :) |
| 00:14.51 | foxlit | cladhaire: thank you :) |
| 00:16.16 | ckknight | function dofile(filename) local file = assert(io.open(filename, "r")); local buff = file:read("*all"); file:close(); return assert(loadstring(buff))() end seems better to me |
| 00:17.57 | abug | or you could just read the example code given in pil or whatever |
| 00:18.55 | cladhaire | ckknight: ,,, |
| 00:18.58 | cladhaire | i didn't realize it was a competition |
| 00:19.01 | cladhaire | i was just illustrating a concept. |
| 00:19.07 | abug | http://www.lua.org/pil/8.html |
| 00:19.41 | ckknight | I wasn't competing with you, I was trying to provide a better solution to foxlit |
| 00:19.48 | cladhaire | well, he doesn't need a solution |
| 00:19.50 | cladhaire | dofile() exists. |
| 00:20.55 | ckknight | I'm not trying to be the bad guy here |
| 00:21.41 | cladhaire | not a probloem |
| 00:24.19 | Cide- | don't have to try in order to succeed |
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| 00:31.06 | ckknight | Cide-: what the fuck is your problem today? |
| 00:31.18 | JoshBorke | you already pointed it out earlier |
| 00:31.20 | Cide- | lol, I just like being an ass :) |
| 00:31.26 | JoshBorke | something to do with a wooden object within an orifice |
| 00:31.33 | Dotted | >__________> |
| 00:31.40 | Thunder_Child | most people use plasic nowadays |
| 00:31.48 | Thunder_Child | plastic* |
| 00:31.52 | ckknight | or latex |
| 00:31.58 | Cide- | glad I succeeded |
| 00:32.08 | Thunder_Child | ~lart Cide- |
| 00:32.08 | purl | takes large quantities of Krispy Kream donuts and stuffs them one after another down Cide-'s throat until Cide- puts on 150lbs |
| 00:32.21 | Thunder_Child | no one shal take my undisputed king of assholes |
| 00:32.25 | Thunder_Child | shall* |
| 00:32.51 | Thunder_Child | err...thats not quite right |
| 00:33.09 | Thunder_Child | title of king* |
| 00:33.27 | JoshBorke | you're king of large wooden objects shoved up your ass? |
| 00:33.29 | JoshBorke | o.O |
| 00:34.07 | Thunder_Child | (17:33:33) (Thunder_Child) title of king* |
| 00:34.12 | Thunder_Child | see changes |
| 00:42.20 | N00bZXI | Alright, my tooltip mod's code should be a bit more readable now. |
| 00:42.46 | JoshBorke | now you must obfuscate it! |
| 00:43.18 | N00bZXI | Although still arguably not readable since I reuse the same variable for everything |
| 00:43.24 | N00bZXI | :\ |
| 00:44.44 | JoshBorke | GD |
| 00:45.37 | JoshBorke | how do i exit the lua interpreter? |
| 00:45.53 | batrick | os.exit() |
| 00:45.57 | zenzelezz | ctrl+c? |
| 00:45.58 | JoshBorke | ah, thanks |
| 00:46.06 | zenzelezz | oh, not the interactive one |
| 00:46.07 | JoshBorke | ctrl+c seems abrupt |
| 00:46.18 | sag_ich_nicht | Shirik|zZz stop sleeping, hour's over :P |
| 00:46.19 | cladhaire | control-D should do it as well |
| 00:46.25 | cladhaire | end of file ftw |
| 00:46.29 | JoshBorke | yep, as hyper pointed out to md |
| 00:47.00 | sag_ich_nicht | btw. i already got i posted as bugreport on the US forums, but maybe i am wrong, is there a way to call up the console with a non-QWERTY keyboard when running WoW using the -console switch? :O |
| 00:47.30 | sag_ich_nicht | *it |
| 00:47.59 | N00bZXI | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:48.38 | sag_ich_nicht | damnit. |
| 00:48.55 | JoshBorke | nitdamn |
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| 00:49.26 | sag_ich_nicht | now how do you escape ^ into that? :O |
| 00:49.42 | JoshBorke | /script SetConsoleKey('^')? |
| 00:49.52 | sag_ich_nicht | mhm |
| 00:49.53 | sag_ich_nicht | okay |
| 00:49.57 | JoshBorke | /script SetConsoleKey('\^')? |
| 00:50.01 | sag_ich_nicht | figured i'd probably have to escape it differently |
| 00:50.05 | sag_ich_nicht | brb testing |
| 00:51.57 | sag_ich_nicht | yupp |
| 00:52.05 | sag_ich_nicht | working with '^' |
| 00:53.01 | sag_ich_nicht | that is damn friggin nice. |
| 00:53.24 | sag_ich_nicht | bleeter |
| 00:53.31 | sag_ich_nicht | are you there? :O |
| 00:53.57 | zenzelezz | so I log my not very frequently played alt, run to the bank in Shattrath, and for a while stand there thinking "why are all the names red?" |
| 00:55.08 | sag_ich_nicht | lol |
| 00:55.33 | sag_ich_nicht | nice way to quickly get the server IP, among other things :O |
| 00:56.42 | bleeter | sag_ich_nicht: no |
| 00:57.31 | sag_ich_nicht | well |
| 00:58.23 | sag_ich_nicht | then you can not make a post here http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=110562425 that /script Set ConsoleKey() does the trick :P |
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| 01:00.50 | sag_ich_nicht | mhm |
| 01:01.14 | bleeter | sag_ich_nicht: consider it not done ;) |
| 01:01.21 | sag_ich_nicht | bleeter: thanks :O |
| 01:01.37 | sag_ich_nicht | hahaha |
| 01:04.21 | zenzelezz | could've corrected the function name to not include a space |
| 01:04.33 | sag_ich_nicht | erm |
| 01:04.33 | sag_ich_nicht | yes |
| 01:04.36 | sag_ich_nicht | i typo'd there |
| 01:04.37 | sag_ich_nicht | X) |
| 01:05.08 | bleeter | lol wut |
| 01:05.12 | zenzelezz | I'm sure they understand anyway |
| 01:05.23 | sag_ich_nicht | bleeter i typo'd |
| 01:05.30 | sag_ich_nicht | it should be /script SetConsoleKey() |
| 01:05.32 | sag_ich_nicht | :P |
| 01:05.59 | bleeter | sag_ich_nicht: I've fixed. Please recheck ;) |
| 01:06.17 | sag_ich_nicht | lol |
| 01:06.17 | sag_ich_nicht | :D |
| 01:06.27 | sag_ich_nicht | <3 |
| 01:06.57 | bleeter | u like? |
| 01:07.34 | sag_ich_nicht | yes |
| 01:10.45 | foxlit | >>> select(2, 1, 2, 3, 4) |
| 01:10.46 | Cide | foxlit: 2, 3, 4 |
| 01:10.57 | foxlit | Woah, Cide, enthusiasm |
| 01:10.58 | zenzelezz | O_o |
| 01:11.11 | Cide | stupid router keeps disconnecting me |
| 01:11.34 | sag_ich_nicht | hello Shirik |
| 01:11.38 | sag_ich_nicht | finished your sleeping? :P |
| 01:13.06 | Thunder_Child | offhand does anyone know the name of the pvp minimap button? |
| 01:15.21 | N00bZXI | MiniMapBattlefieldFrame |
| 01:15.28 | Thunder_Child | sweet, thanks |
| 01:15.41 | Thunder_Child | i lost mine :/ |
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| 01:18.31 | ckknight | >>> select(1, select)(1, select)(1, select)(1, "pants") |
| 01:18.31 | Cide | ckknight: "pants" |
| 01:18.41 | ckknight | should probably fix that... |
| 01:18.54 | Cide | probably |
| 01:19.09 | ckknight | I mean, I can tell your enthusiasm for pants, but please, tmi |
| 01:19.10 | ckknight | :-P |
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| 01:42.04 | TS|Skrom | hey all |
| 01:42.10 | joshborkE | hi |
| 01:42.37 | TS|Skrom | Anyone wanna help me pull my head out of my nethers long enough to figure out why shaman aren't displaying in CTRA with groups set to show classes? |
| 01:42.57 | joshborkE | did you check the shaman box? |
| 01:43.08 | TS|Skrom | wouldn't it be that easy! |
| 01:43.15 | TS|Skrom | no I didn't where is said shaman box :P |
| 01:43.16 | joshborkE | it's happened to me |
| 01:43.54 | joshborkE | um, been a long time since i used ctra, so i dunno :D |
| 01:44.36 | TS|Skrom | hrm I'm on the buffs page and I've got a box for every class BUT shaman... time to trya fresh download. I could have sword I got the latest on this one though |
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| 01:47.28 | TS|Skrom | downloaded from ctmod.net... reload, still no pally. Time to try a quite/reload |
| 01:47.28 | TS|Skrom | er quit* |
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| 01:50.32 | TS|Skrom | hrmpf still no luck. Can shaman just not be shown for alliance? I mean 8 groups, 9 classes... *shrug* |
| 01:55.10 | ckknight | lol, no. |
| 01:55.40 | TS|Skrom | no they can't see it? or no I'm a dumbass and just can't figure it out? :D |
| 01:57.21 | zenzelezz | maybe there's a setting somewhere for which classes to show? Don't know |
| 01:57.38 | sag_ich_nicht | zenzelezz well you have three options |
| 01:57.44 | sag_ich_nicht | A) continue investigating |
| 01:57.45 | TS|Skrom | there is, but there's no checkbox for shaman so I don't know |
| 01:57.47 | sag_ich_nicht | B) annoy Cide |
| 01:57.51 | sag_ich_nicht | C) use ora2 |
| 01:57.58 | zenzelezz | I'm not the one with the problem |
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| 01:58.00 | joshborkE | d) a and B |
| 01:58.04 | sag_ich_nicht | oh right :O |
| 02:02.53 | cladhaire | Anyone here currently in England? |
| 02:03.13 | joshborkE | or have access to an english ip? |
| 02:03.20 | cladhaire | yeah that works too |
| 02:03.28 | cladhaire | need to test some pings from the uk |
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| 02:07.40 | Dotted | what about denmark cladhaire :o? |
| 02:07.52 | Dotted | thats close to the UK :p |
| 02:11.47 | cladhaire | Dotted: =) |
| 02:11.55 | cladhaire | sure,i'm trying to get a diff between site5.com and dreamhost.com |
| 02:11.59 | cladhaire | cheap hosting |
| 02:13.47 | Dotted | site5: 316ms, dreamhost: 241ms |
| 02:13.59 | cladhaire | hrm |
| 02:14.01 | cladhaire | thanks, |
| 02:14.03 | Dotted | average |
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| 02:14.43 | joshborkE | nn |
| 02:14.57 | Dotted | site5 had the lowest minimum, but highest maximum |
| 02:15.00 | Cairenn | night JoshBorke |
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| 02:46.11 | Gnarfoz | site5: rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 90.986/92.735/94.985/1.525 ms |
| 02:46.11 | Gnarfoz | dreamhost: rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 150.977/151.726/151.977/0.644 ms |
| 02:46.50 | cladhaire | Gnarfoz: hrm.. interesting. |
| 02:46.55 | Gnarfoz | might be routing |
| 02:47.00 | cladhaire | Gnarfoz: i think i prefer site5, just trying to understand it =) |
| 02:47.04 | sag_ich_nicht | no |
| 02:47.10 | sag_ich_nicht | dreamhost has just shitty servers. |
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| 02:47.18 | sag_ich_nicht | and that's not a joke, either. |
| 02:47.50 | sag_ich_nicht | cladhaire what kind of hosting are you looking for anyway? :O |
| 02:47.55 | Gnarfoz | actually, sag_ich_nicht must be right |
| 02:48.16 | Gnarfoz | the routes for those numbers are over 13 hops long for site5, but only 6 to dreamhost.com |
| 02:48.38 | Gnarfoz | (and no, I didn't mix those to up just now, the one with lower pings has the longer route xD) |
| 02:48.42 | cladhaire | sag_ich_nicht: I have hosting, just cheap hosting |
| 02:48.44 | sag_ich_nicht | Gnancy: pathping and you will see why :P |
| 02:48.48 | cladhaire | I have dreamhost right now, I know their problems |
| 02:48.49 | cladhaire | heh |
| 02:49.04 | Gnarfoz | sag_ich_nicht: traceroute'd, that should be the same, right? ;) |
| 02:49.31 | sag_ich_nicht | Gnarfoz: yeah but traceroute is not doing a 5 minute statistic for every router on the way to the host and the host itself, now does it? :P |
| 02:50.00 | Gnarfoz | dunno, but pathping is windows stuff, linux's traceroute is different anyway. does 3 pings for each router |
| 02:50.10 | sag_ich_nicht | wait |
| 02:50.11 | sag_ich_nicht | sorry |
| 02:50.14 | sag_ich_nicht | missread that as tracert |
| 02:50.30 | Gnarfoz | ^^ spelled it out just because of that ;> |
| 02:50.39 | cladhaire | hehe |
| 02:50.51 | sag_ich_nicht | yeah same results pretty much :P |
| 02:50.58 | cladhaire | i wish i could find a site hosted by site5 |
| 02:51.01 | Gnarfoz | although a 5min statistic sounds nice |
| 02:51.04 | cladhaire | like a wordpress blog |
| 02:51.17 | cladhaire | then i could compare from where I am, and have some other comparisons with you guys |
| 02:51.20 | sag_ich_nicht | cladhaire are you looking for a rootserver or just webhosting? :O |
| 02:51.24 | cladhaire | webhsoting |
| 02:51.27 | cladhaire | webhosting |
| 02:51.33 | sag_ich_nicht | well then nvm |
| 02:51.42 | cladhaire | my stuff is all on dreamhost, but i'm a bit more comfortable with what site5 offers, etc. |
| 02:51.44 | sag_ich_nicht | else i would have just sent you to awknet.com X) |
| 02:51.48 | cladhaire | hehe |
| 02:52.01 | cladhaire | no, just cheap web hosting |
| 02:55.03 | zenzelezz | I think Informant must be reading my stack or arrows wrong; it claims I would have to pay 60g per stack |
| 02:55.20 | zenzelezz | either that or my arrows skyrocketed in price since I last logged the hunter |
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| 03:03.55 | sag_ich_nicht | zenzelezz: rarely happens to me for some items as well |
| 03:04.04 | sag_ich_nicht | it's fixed the next /reloadui mostly though |
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| 03:13.57 | bleeter | splitz! |
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| 03:15.08 | wobin_ | minisplitz |
| 03:15.13 | |Jelly| | <- suspended. rofl |
| 03:15.20 | wobin_ | what did you do? =P |
| 03:15.35 | |Jelly| | I've yet to get an email. |
| 03:15.41 | |Jelly| | (1.5 hours...) |
| 03:15.59 | |Jelly| | .but...i have an idea... http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=110561496&sid=1&pageNo=1 |
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| 03:20.39 | bleeter | |Jelly|: Don't see any of your posts on that thread as having been reported |
| 03:21.04 | Kaydeethree | netsplits. /sigh |
| 03:21.04 | Thunder_Child | *Snicker* @ |Jelly| |
| 03:21.18 | |Jelly| | http://i203.photobucket.com/albums/aa141/WOWDANCEPARTY/gaywedding/WoWScrnShot_061607_204631.jpg -> http://i203.photobucket.com/albums/aa141/WOWDANCEPARTY/gaywedding/roflowned.jpg |
| 03:21.44 | Thunder_Child | bleeter, yes, the little *Report post* button is gone |
| 03:22.14 | bleeter | Thunder_Child: not for me... /shrug |
| 03:22.43 | Cairenn | if you aren't logged in, it doesn't show |
| 03:22.59 | Thunder_Child | ah...yes, just figured that out |
| 03:23.06 | Thunder_Child | ~lart Thunder_Child |
| 03:23.06 | purl | gives Thunder_Child an extra strength ACME sleeping pill, sending Thunder_Child to sleep for 150 years, and awakening to seven strange dwarfs and a large apple |
| 03:23.13 | |Jelly| | lol |
| 03:23.33 | Thunder_Child | someone really likes the # 150 |
| 03:23.59 | bleeter | |Jelly|: so, this would be some RP 'hey all, we're having an event, come along but don't grief the event pls' (aka big neon lite saying 'come one come all grief our event!') kind of thing? |
| 03:24.14 | |Jelly| | Yeah. More or less. |
| 03:26.05 | bleeter | which I think says it all |
| 03:26.40 | |Jelly| | Considering I yelled one thing, never got warned, and just insta-suspended...I think they're all carebears. |
| 03:27.58 | bleeter | there's someone suggesting in the original announce thread that it may have been flamebaiting |
| 03:28.16 | bleeter | organise a gay ingame message, wait for all the hate to spew forth, screencap and report. |
| 03:28.24 | |Jelly| | Of course that's what it was. |
| 03:29.33 | wobin_ | oh come on, the wow forums are a haven for mature reasoned discussion |
| 03:29.35 | wobin_ | ... |
| 03:29.41 | wobin_ | *ahahahaahahaha* |
| 03:29.46 | |Jelly| | DUH! |
| 03:29.53 | |Jelly| | He *did* post it in General. |
| 03:30.44 | ckknight | Well, to whoever is interested, Cartographer no longer spams the guild addon channel every 5 seconds with your position, so you can all stop wondering what's spamming your addon stream with a prefix of "2" ;-) |
| 03:31.28 | zenzelezz | how often does it update now? |
| 03:31.42 | wobin_ | on requst |
| 03:31.52 | ckknight | it does a pull instead of a push |
| 03:31.54 | ckknight | basically. |
| 03:32.05 | |Jelly| | Is there a way to see the addon channels? I kinda wanna see. |
| 03:32.10 | ckknight | if you open a map to Mulgore, it will send a message to the guild: "REQUEST", "Mulgore" |
| 03:32.15 | |Jelly| | (not cartographer but everything in general) |
| 03:32.27 | ckknight | everyone in Mulgore will then whisper the requester their position |
| 03:32.42 | ckknight | |Jelly|: you need an addon |
| 03:33.01 | |Jelly| | hmm. kk |
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| 03:50.03 | Thunder_Child | will "/script MiniMapBattlefieldFrame:show()" work? |
| 03:50.15 | cladhaire | no, cause there's no method show =) |
| 03:50.18 | cladhaire | :Show() might |
| 03:50.59 | Thunder_Child | what if i dont see anything but i dont get an error reoported either? |
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| 03:51.13 | Thunder_Child | reported* |
| 03:51.14 | cladhaire | then it was ignored |
| 03:51.18 | cladhaire | or its parent was hidden |
| 03:51.40 | Thunder_Child | hmm..if i hid it with DFM and the removed DFM and it's SV's could it still be hiding it> |
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| 03:53.00 | Thunder_Child | oh nvm...i was a retard |
| 03:53.02 | Thunder_Child | thanks though |
| 03:56.30 | sag_ich_nicht | i go to bed now, good night. |
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| 03:58.21 | |Jelly| | night |
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| 04:51.42 | Thunder_Child | eggs? |
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| 05:17.52 | ScytheBlade1 | Antiarc, <3 for fixing Sanity2. |
| 05:17.56 | ScytheBlade1 | Antiarc, oh, btw, <3. |
| 05:18.01 | Antiarc | Heh, I didn't make the fixes |
| 05:18.05 | Antiarc | They were a contribution :) |
| 05:18.06 | ScytheBlade1 | And? ;) |
| 05:18.08 | Antiarc | I just committed 'em |
| 05:18.12 | ScytheBlade1 | Well they work |
| 05:18.19 | ScytheBlade1 | So here's some more <3 to share with whomever |
| 05:18.19 | ScytheBlade1 | <3 |
| 05:18.28 | Antiarc | Hehe, ok |
| 05:18.32 | Antiarc | Hey, offhand -- |
| 05:18.40 | ScytheBlade1 | ? |
| 05:18.46 | Antiarc | Anyone know if Vamp Embrace heals are modified by Silent Resolve or Shadow Affinity? |
| 05:19.00 | Antiarc | KTM says they're modded by Resolve, but that seems really unintuitive to me |
| 05:19.00 | ScytheBlade1 | iirc they are - at least one of them is |
| 05:19.07 | Antiarc | I'd expect Affinity |
| 05:21.01 | |Jelly| | What's the command to turn on addons in game? Search isn't working : / |
| 05:21.09 | Esamynn | Antiarc: hey, did you ever get a chance to look at Sanity2's svn:externals for librarys, there seem to be a number missing atm |
| 05:21.25 | Antiarc | Esamynn: I haven't been focused on Sanity lately, so no :( |
| 05:21.49 | Esamynn | it would take all of 2 seconds :P |
| 05:21.51 | Esamynn | lazy |
| 05:22.14 | Lywellyn | |Jelly|: There's a command for it? All I know of is the button on your character select screen o.O |
| 05:22.30 | |Jelly| | Yeah. There's a command. |
| 05:22.37 | |Jelly| | It was posted the other day |
| 05:22.42 | Esamynn | Antiarc: sorry, I just realised that was rude, wasn't meant to be |
| 05:23.06 | Antiarc | Heheh, don't worry about it |
| 05:23.10 | Lywellyn | hmm.... |
| 05:23.24 | Antiarc | I've been spending all my wow dev time on Threat/Omen |
| 05:23.44 | Esamynn | Antiarc: but you should look, one of externals that ISN't there is AceLibrary :P |
| 05:23.52 | Antiarc | o.0 |
| 05:23.56 | Antiarc | How on earth did I miss that one? |
| 05:24.04 | |Jelly| | http://www.wowwiki.com/World_of_Warcraft_API#AddOn_Functions i win |
| 05:24.09 | Antiarc | Well, besides being an obvious noob |
| 05:24.13 | Esamynn | the TOC loads it, but there's no external for it |
| 05:24.27 | Antiarc | Oy. I'll try to get those fixed up. |
| 05:24.31 | ScytheBlade1 | Antiarc, yeah, I found your thread on EJ concerning Threat/Omen, and I must say I'm incredibly impressed. I have one request for you though: have an option to toggle data broadcast on or off. |
| 05:24.36 | Antiarc | (Likewise, if you have a wowace svn login, please feel free to do so yourself :D) |
| 05:24.51 | ScytheBlade1 | I "fixed" my KTM to not broadcast to the raid, and I don't want to have to "fix" four embedded copies of Threat to not report to the raid too :) |
| 05:25.06 | Antiarc | ScytheBlade1: That's...iffy, due to ThreatLib's library structure. It doesn't have any persistant variables. |
| 05:25.19 | Antiarc | But yeah, I can understand that desire as well. |
| 05:25.26 | Lywellyn | Script command. I'm an idiot. |
| 05:25.27 | ScytheBlade1 | <-- mage.. :) |
| 05:25.32 | Antiarc | Heheh. |
| 05:25.37 | ScytheBlade1 | I know my limitis |
| 05:25.39 | ScytheBlade1 | (limits |
| 05:25.40 | ScytheBlade1 | ** |
| 05:25.48 | ScytheBlade1 | But some group members think I don't, etc. |
| 05:25.58 | ScytheBlade1 | Fixing five embedded copies in random addons would be an utter pain |
| 05:26.50 | ScytheBlade1 | If you have a suggestions place to post it, I'll gladly do that for you :) |
| 05:27.11 | Esamynn | ScytheBlade1: what exactly is the problem you're having? |
| 05:27.43 | Antiarc | ScytheBlade1: Both the EJ forums and the Threat thread on the Wowace forums are good places to put things so I don't forget them :) |
| 05:27.56 | ScytheBlade1 | Esamynn, people are idiots who tell me when to pop Invisibility. So I "fixed" KTM to not send data to the raid/party. |
| 05:28.00 | ScytheBlade1 | Antiarc, will do |
| 05:28.24 | Esamynn | ScytheBlade1: I have a much more simple solution 8) |
| 05:28.31 | ScytheBlade1 | Esamynn, yes yes, of course :P |
| 05:28.32 | Esamynn | I don't install KTM :P |
| 05:28.36 | Antiarc | ScytheBlade1: It'd be pretty trivial to have an addon that has Threat as a dependency and just hooks the outbound broadcast so that no data gets sent |
| 05:28.51 | Antiarc | So it loads after Threat loads, then just redirects broadcasts into nothing =) |
| 05:29.02 | ScytheBlade1 | Antiarc, which I would hack up if that came to it. But it's easier to get you to do it for me in the addon itself ;) |
| 05:29.04 | Antiarc | Would be extremely small :D |
| 05:29.12 | ScytheBlade1 | But really, if that's not doable, I'd code that up in a heartbeat. |
| 05:29.38 | Antiarc | ScytheBlade1: Heh, yeah. Not sure what the right way to do it is, given that Threat doesn't use any saved vars, though |
| 05:30.22 | ScytheBlade1 | It's meant to be embedded, hidden. I don't think you need to worry about UI or interface... manually setting a variable is acceptable in this situation, I think |
| 05:30.46 | ScytheBlade1 | Doesn't even need to be saved, imo |
| 05:34.37 | Antiarc | I could certainly just expose an off switch that another addon could set after all copies of Threat are loaded |
| 05:34.53 | Antiarc | Would sure make it simpler :) |
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| 05:46.12 | ScytheBlade1 | Sounds good to me :) |
| 05:50.01 | ScytheBlade1 | Antiarc, if you make that switch, PM me the details and I'll work on the on/off addon switch for it ;) |
| 05:50.12 | Antiarc | Sure thing |
| 06:00.29 | |Jelly| | holy hell...Antiarc. *brain fart* I <3 Omen. So you know |
| 06:00.37 | Antiarc | Heh, glad you like it. |
| 06:01.35 | |Jelly| | I don't mean to sound redundant if it's already been asked, but are there any plans on making it broadcast as well? (so that you can see other people using Omen and they can see you?) |
| 06:05.13 | |Jelly| | Gosh Jelly. Way to kill the channel. |
| 06:06.27 | Antiarc | Yeah, we're working on it |
| 06:07.14 | |Jelly| | Awesome. I really do love it. That was just the only feature that I wanted since my raid was like "wtf...where'd you go?" |
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| 06:33.12 | Thunder_Child | "(23:05:38) (|Jelly|) Gosh Jelly. Way to kill the channel" QFT :) |
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| 06:59.54 | ckknight | |Jelly|: it already broadcasts to other Threat-1.0 users |
| 07:00.02 | ckknight | |Jelly|: the KTM broadcasting is being worked on, though |
| 07:12.59 | KarlThePagan | yea "ThreatToKTM" test if you like :) |
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| 07:33.16 | CIA-6 | thrae-wow: 03generalmx * r51 10/trunk/TinyTip/ (10 files in 3 dirs): |
| 07:33.18 | CIA-6 | thrae-wow: TinyTip - The long-awaited first commit of version 0.2, completely untested. |
| 07:33.20 | CIA-6 | thrae-wow: This version keeps support for saved settings and anchoring in a different |
| 07:33.22 | CIA-6 | thrae-wow: addon, which I have not finished yet. You should delete your saved variables for |
| 07:33.24 | CIA-6 | thrae-wow: TinyTip in your WTF folder. |
| 07:34.27 | Thrae | Whoops, what is CIA doing in here |
| 07:34.46 | nevcairiel | the CIA is everywhere |
| 07:34.47 | bleeter | glad you noticed that, was just about to ask you lol |
| 07:34.52 | bleeter | nevcairiel++ |
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| 07:43.47 | |Jelly| | Sorry for the late response...but it can be used by a bunch of Omen users and...work like KTM? |
| 07:45.57 | ckknight | |Jelly|: it'll send comm to KTM users |
| 07:46.14 | |Jelly| | hmm |
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| 07:52.21 | Arrowmaster | ./roar |Jelly| |
| 07:52.41 | |Jelly| | You're about to see me in Kara again at 3am. lol |
| 07:52.49 | Arrowmaster | lol |
| 07:53.10 | |Jelly| | Got suspended earlier otherwise I would have been in the first time. They had to PUG a healer. lol |
| 08:07.07 | |Jelly| | yay! Perfect Raid is back to normal! |
| 08:09.00 | |Jelly| | ah ha! It's a scaling issue! |
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| 12:01.32 | Wraanger | heyaz |
| 12:03.01 | |Jelly| | hi |
| 12:03.14 | Wraanger | question ..what is wrong in the http://wowi.pastey.net/57015 ? what I am trying ot do is to make it show different information when right-clicked ... |
| 12:05.42 | |Jelly| | <- noobsauce; I don't know |
| 12:05.51 | |Jelly| | In the next hour or so, people should be waking up |
| 12:06.03 | Shirik | or going to sleep |
| 12:06.12 | |Jelly| | considering I'm still in Kara... lol |
| 12:06.52 | Wraanger | )) |
| 12:06.59 | Wraanger | it's 1606 in Moscow )) |
| 12:07.21 | |Jelly| | 0706 where i am. lol |
| 12:08.25 | foxlit | 1407 in the greatest timezone ever! |
| 12:09.12 | Shirik | Wraanger: I don't understand your question |
| 12:09.20 | Shirik | foxlit: Your clock's fast |
| 12:09.29 | Shirik | it's obviously 8:09 |
| 12:09.31 | Shirik | in that timezone |
| 12:10.07 | foxlit | vDI:SetScript("OnMouseDown", function() if (arg1 == "LeftButton") and IsShiftKeyDown() then vDI:StartMoving() elseif arg1 == "RightButton" then style = "off" end end) |
| 12:10.32 | foxlit | Aside from using global arg1 (don't!), there really isn't much that's interesting. |
| 12:11.13 | foxlit | You don't call OnEvent immediately to update the display, though |
| 12:11.43 | Shirik | global arg1 ftl |
| 12:11.44 | Wraanger | Shirik .... question is ..i am tying to make it show Armor, Defense and Dodge ......then is it is right clicked ..it should show AP and Crit )) but ......it does not do that =( |
| 12:12.01 | foxlit | (and I'd advise against using local aliases for global functions with a different name) |
| 12:12.34 | Wraanger | than how it should be done ? |
| 12:12.55 | foxlit | Use the globals for readability, really |
| 12:12.57 | Shirik | vDI:SetScript("OnMouseDown", function() if (arg1 == "LeftButton") and IsShiftKeyDown() then vDI:StartMoving() elseif arg1 == "RightButton" then style = "off" end end) |
| 12:13.00 | Shirik | should be OnMouseClicked |
| 12:13.02 | foxlit | http://wowi.pastey.net/57016?hi=65] |
| 12:13.04 | foxlit | http://wowi.pastey.net/57016?hi=65 |
| 12:13.05 | Shirik | foxlit: Or |
| 12:13.16 | Shirik | local GetDodgeChance = GetDodgeChance |
| 12:13.16 | foxlit | or do local UnitBuff = UnitBuff; |
| 12:13.17 | Shirik | etc |
| 12:13.52 | Shirik | oh whoops |
| 12:13.54 | foxlit | I'd still rather have people not create local aliases to global functions, hooking goes nuts. |
| 12:13.55 | Shirik | Wraanger: Ignore that |
| 12:13.56 | Shirik | I made that up |
| 12:14.04 | foxlit | (OnClick) |
| 12:14.07 | Shirik | well |
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| 12:14.12 | Shirik | the Left button handler is right |
| 12:14.15 | Wraanger | :) |
| 12:14.17 | Shirik | the right button handler should be OnClick |
| 12:14.20 | Shirik | not OnMouseDown |
| 12:14.31 | Shirik | concurrently |
| 12:14.38 | Shirik | you only ever set style to "off" |
| 12:14.39 | Shirik | never back |
| 12:14.59 | Shirik | similarly |
| 12:15.03 | Shirik | your if statements are completely wrong |
| 12:15.07 | Shirik | and your code shouldn't compile |
| 12:15.07 | Wraanger | if I remember correctly, OnClick belongs to the button, so the frame should be created as a button ? or am I wrong ? |
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| 12:15.24 | Shirik | if style = "def" then |
| 12:15.27 | Shirik | should be |
| 12:15.29 | Shirik | if style == "def" then |
| 12:15.49 | Shirik | lua> a=4; if a = 4 then print"hi" end |
| 12:15.52 | Shirik | gr |
| 12:16.02 | Shirik | Shirik:lua> Compilation failed: [string " a=4; if a = 4 then print"hi" end"]:1: 'then' expected near '=' |
| 12:16.04 | Shirik | see |
| 12:16.09 | Shirik | your code shouldn't even compile tbh |
| 12:16.51 | Wraanger | i got two versions of this code ...one just show the main part ..and one with "if"s ...the one with "if"s not compiling |
| 12:17.03 | Shirik | like I said, your if statements are wrong |
| 12:18.41 | Wraanger | corrected them |
| 12:29.49 | Wraanger | ONLY BUTTONS HAVE OnClick HANDLERS! If you want to trap mouse button events for other objects, use the OnMouseDown and OnMouseUp events. << From WoWiki |
| 12:30.29 | |Jelly| | I hope that's a c/p |
| 12:30.34 | wereHamster | Shirik, lua is interpreted, as long as the buggy piece of code isn't reached it won't cause any harm |
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| 12:31.30 | |Jelly| | PEPPY! |
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| 12:31.39 | Lopeppeppy | Morning, Jelly! |
| 12:31.47 | |Jelly| | Morning. 8P |
| 12:31.58 | foxlit | wereHamster: no. |
| 12:32.12 | krka | lua compiles everything before it runs anything |
| 12:32.13 | JoshBorke | wereHamster: yes. |
| 12:32.18 | JoshBorke | what was the question? |
| 12:32.27 | Lopeppeppy | Check my morning thoughts for me, guys. How interesting is this topic... http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=110464640&postId=1104454813&sid=1#3 |
| 12:32.32 | wereHamster | no, foxlit and krka are right -.- |
| 12:32.46 | krka | per file / chunk anyway |
| 12:34.54 | foxlit | Lopeppeppy: I'm not sure if the "stop haxxing wow!" speech should go to someone asking about modifying sound levels :/ |
| 12:34.57 | Wobin | oh man Lope, you're on AD =P |
| 12:36.34 | |Jelly| | this sucks...i die but since i have the boss mod, i can't run back and finish. lol |
| 12:36.34 | Lopeppeppy | Interacting is interacting... *shrug* No one is going to go to the extent of invalidating Warden just to play with the way a murloc gurgles. |
| 12:36.37 | wereHamster | ' If you have any outside software interacting with WoW while it's running, you're going to be violating the ToS' - by that definition fraps is also violating the ToS |
| 12:36.50 | Wraanger | says " ) is expected near end ) in return for vDI:SetScript("OnMouseDown", function() if (arg1 == "LeftButton") and IsShiftKeyDown() then vDI:StartMoving() elseif (arg1 == "RightButton") and style == "off" then style = "def" else style = "off" end end end) |
| 12:36.51 | Lopeppeppy | FRAPS doesn't change the game. |
| 12:36.58 | JoshBorke | i don't believe fraps interacts with wow |
| 12:37.00 | Lopeppeppy | And yea, Wobin, I'm AD. |
| 12:37.07 | wereHamster | his app wouldn't, too |
| 12:37.26 | wereHamster | or, his app would as much as fraps does |
| 12:37.47 | Lopeppeppy | If his app needs to circumvent Warden, it's doing something else. |
| 12:37.56 | foxlit | Wraanger: too many ends. |
| 12:38.04 | foxlit | Read his post, tbh |
| 12:38.38 | wereHamster | fraps read the framebuffer after WoW has drawn to it, his app would change the sound samples before they are sent to the soundcard, how's that different? |
| 12:38.58 | foxlit | He doesn't want to circumvent Warden - he wants to know if what he's doing is going to get his account terminated. |
| 12:39.12 | Lopeppeppy | If you have to ask that.... the answer is "don't do it". |
| 12:39.12 | Wraanger | foxlit ..thanks ..error is gone ...but ....it did not change the display anyway =((( |
| 12:39.33 | foxlit | Because you aren't doing anything to change the display |
| 12:40.07 | foxlit | You change a variable, yes, but that isn't going to change the way anything onscreen looks |
| 12:40.31 | foxlit | (in other words, you need to call your OnEvent handler yourself after you do so) |
| 12:40.52 | wereHamster | he should simply switch to linux, change wine and be done :P |
| 12:41.21 | Lopeppeppy | Post your solution for him then. :) |
| 12:41.31 | wereHamster | no US account.. |
| 12:42.30 | Lopeppeppy | If I understood Linux enough, I'd post it for you... but I do hate to not be able to answer when someone says "WTF U Meeen by dat?" |
| 12:42.45 | |Jelly| | i got you covered |
| 12:42.46 | Wraanger | http://pastey.net/57017 ... |
| 12:42.53 | Lopeppeppy | |Jelly|... is what I'm reading in Lochi's signature true? *gasp* |
| 12:43.04 | |Jelly| | Yeah. I was suspended last night for 3h |
| 12:43.15 | Lopeppeppy | Awwww.... what world-evil did you perpetrate? |
| 12:43.17 | foxlit | Wraanger: that won't compile |
| 12:43.34 | |Jelly| | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=110561496&sid=1 |
| 12:43.47 | foxlit | Frame:GetScript("OnClick") is roughly equivalent to saying a |
| 12:44.13 | Wraanger | [16:29] <Wraanger> ONLY BUTTONS HAVE OnClick HANDLERS! If you want to trap mouse button events for other objects, use the OnMouseDown and OnMouseUp events. << From WoWiki |
| 12:44.18 | foxlit | You point at a variable, but you don't tell Lua what to do with it |
| 12:45.01 | foxlit | Bad choice of placeholder names, but that's a general example, not a specific chunk of code |
| 12:46.41 | Lopeppeppy | Sounds like good times, |Jelly|. Wear it with... pride? *ducks and covers* |
| 12:47.09 | |Jelly| | To be honest, my name was about the only thing I did wrong. |
| 12:47.31 | |Jelly| | I took pictures and danced. lol |
| 12:48.36 | Lopeppeppy | When the ban-net flies over a party, it sometimes catches the innocent. Not that little Peppy has ever been caught in the ban net... gnome rogue = escape artist.... |
| 12:49.07 | foxlit | "Recently though Ive been doing worse because of one thing: cloak of shadows. This skill is the most imbalanced thing in the game, hands down. Add on the 15 seconds of stun a rouge has, and thats 20 seconds I can't do anything at all (not like a rogue needs that much time, I die in like 8 seconds lol). How can anyone call this balance? |
| 12:49.31 | foxlit | Quality whining right there! |
| 12:49.39 | foxlit | (and from warlocks!) |
| 12:49.43 | nevcairiel | hahaha |
| 12:49.47 | nevcairiel | warlocks whining |
| 12:49.49 | Wraanger | http://pastey.net/57017 << working now .... |
| 12:49.53 | nevcairiel | i can alway laugh..^^ |
| 12:51.20 | Lopeppeppy | I think CoS nicely balances out the broken Vanish... *whistles innocently* |
| 12:52.06 | foxlit | Vanishis broken? :) |
| 12:52.41 | foxlit | I don't really like that you can remove FF with CoS and then vanish, but meh, I can live with that. |
| 12:53.09 | Wraanger | now the question is ..how that code can be cleaned up ..because I have a feeling that I have used some ghetto ways which should not be used ;) |
| 12:53.24 | Lopeppeppy | Just sic your pet on a rogue, you win. *shrug* |
| 12:54.15 | foxlit | I can has no pet? |
| 12:54.31 | JoshBorke | meh, looks fine wraanger |
| 12:54.35 | foxlit | Besides, pets only ignore stealth |
| 12:54.43 | Lopeppeppy | Educate me on FF, I just assumed it was a warlock spell I don't have yet (only level 43 on my lock. |
| 12:54.45 | foxlit | Should be using XML for frame layout! |
| 12:55.02 | foxlit | Faerie fire, cast by druids. -armor and prevents stealth and invisibility for 40 seconds |
| 12:55.08 | Lopeppeppy | Pets surely don't ignore stealth. They chase me all over the board until their owners come and kill me. All dogs can smell ghosts! |
| 12:55.37 | Lopeppeppy | Duh... I knew that. *facepalm* Sorry, temporary droood absent mindedness, I haven't had mine out since 2.1 hit. |
| 12:56.04 | Wraanger | foxlit: what difference in using xml for frame layout rather than lua ? ( for me to understand ) |
| 12:56.42 | nevcairiel | personal choice, mostly |
| 12:56.53 | foxlit | Ther eisn't actually that much of a difference. |
| 12:57.17 | Wraanger | i often ask stupid question because I don't know things ..and want to know them ....don't be upset with me ;) |
| 12:57.23 | foxlit | I just consider all of the :SetFontObject(), :SetFont() :SetJustifyH() :SetJustifyV() calls you do on fontstrings ugly, sicne they fit into a single XML <FontString tag :) |
| 12:57.32 | foxlit | and I can't type. |
| 12:57.34 | nevcairiel | thats true yea |
| 12:57.38 | nevcairiel | XML looks smaller |
| 12:58.17 | foxlit | You can probably look into inhereting from GameFontNormal if you use it, Wraanger |
| 12:58.27 | foxlit | Can replace vDI:OnEvent with a local function named UpdateDisplay() |
| 12:58.53 | foxlit | When you do stuff like vDI:SetScript("OnMouseUp", function() vDI:StopMovingOrSizing() end), you create a separate anonymous function to do the call |
| 12:59.04 | foxlit | Can actually replace with vDI:SetScript("OnMouseUp", vDI.StopMovingOrSizing()) |
| 12:59.21 | foxlit | vDI:SetScript("OnMouseUp", vDI.StopMovingOrSizing) |
| 13:00.26 | foxlit | Inline notation for the OnMouseDown handler is aesthetically too long - you lose track of what you're doing, and can end up with too many ends. You're probably better of declaring a separate function to handle OnMouseUp, then SetScript'ing it onto the frame |
| 13:01.18 | foxlit | There isn't much need to alias UnitArmor, UnitDefense, GetDodgeChance and so on; if you're intent on doing so, at least alias them to their own names (local UnitArmor = UnitArmor) -- saves readability later. |
| 13:01.52 | Wraanger | replaced |
| 13:02.05 | Wraanger | will think about funtion for onmouse Down |
| 13:05.58 | Wraanger | but now ..I can't make that local function to work =( |
| 13:06.03 | Wraanger | with that self calls |
| 13:06.43 | Wraanger | ( which i honestly don't understood and just copied from pastey foxlit gave ) |
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| 13:12.45 | Wraanger | http://pastey.net/57018 not working =((( |
| 13:19.18 | Nerinia | Wraanger: http://pastey.net/57019-2vjj |
| 13:21.40 | Wraanger | http://pastey.net/57020 my new variant ..working ) |
| 13:21.54 | Wraanger | almost the same as yours, Nerinia ) |
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| 13:44.18 | Peppa | Is it possible to run a macro from a script (ie. run the new 2.0 macro system in a lua file)? |
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| 13:53.15 | Kaso | Peppa, yes and kinda |
| 13:53.57 | Kaso | If you wanna use secure functions ( like /cast etc) you need to use a secureactionbutton, otherwise you can execute the functions direcly from SlashCmdList |
| 13:59.07 | Peppa | So it's not really possible to interact with the secure functions without having a button somewhere on the screen (hidden or otherwise)? |
| 13:59.55 | Wraanger | you can make this button 1x1 pixel ))) and 0% alpha ))) |
| 14:01.18 | Peppa | Doesn't buttons support the "hidden" attribute? |
| 14:01.55 | Peppa | Actually that's a silly question :P |
| 14:02.30 | Peppa | Anyways, thanks for the help guys. I'm gonna read up on secureactionbuttons. |
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| 14:41.23 | Pac2722 | hey can any1 tell me in a lvl 20 lock where would b the best pls to put my talent points in? |
| 14:49.39 | Pac2722 | if some1 can tell me can u msg me pls |
| 14:53.53 | KarlThePagan | Pac2722, at level 20 shadowburn is quite nice, but improved voidwalker is also interesting... however since the las talent review the affliction tree is outstanding |
| 14:54.34 | Pac2722 | thnx |
| 14:55.19 | nevcairiel | affliction is really nice until 50 |
| 14:55.24 | nevcairiel | wth 50 i would go with felguard |
| 14:56.11 | Pac2722 | so how would i spend me points then |
| 14:56.32 | Pac2722 | in wat would i pot them? |
| 14:58.02 | KarlThePagan | imo start with - http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=ITMMz |
| 14:58.13 | KarlThePagan | put more points into concentration until you can drain-tank |
| 14:58.33 | nevcairiel | i would max out corr |
| 14:58.33 | nevcairiel | imho |
| 14:59.52 | KarlThePagan | it is nice to have instant corruption, but honestly it isn't actually more effective in pve than 2/5 |
| 15:00.17 | KarlThePagan | this is my lv 57 warlock's affliction tree - http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=ITMMV0ftVtco |
| 15:00.32 | KarlThePagan | if you want to pvp you need instant corruption |
| 15:01.02 | Pac2722 | k thnx |
| 15:55.45 | Mr_Rabies2 | <KarlThePagan> imo start with - http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=ITMMz |
| 15:55.52 | Mr_Rabies2 | GIEF ITMMz plx |
| 15:58.24 | nevcairiel | lol |
| 15:58.28 | KarlThePagan | lol wut |
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| 16:15.26 | Mr_Rabies2 | rofl |
| 16:15.38 | Mr_Rabies2 | auctioneer is using 36MB of ram |
| 16:15.53 | Mr_Rabies2 | glad i keep it on LoD mode :x |
| 16:16.21 | Gnarfoz | what did you expect, it saves a metric assload of stuff to give all the statistics it does :D |
| 16:18.25 | Mr_Rabies2 | yeah |
| 16:19.05 | Mr_Rabies2 | its just funny that it eats more ram than all ~200 of my other addons combined |
| 16:19.11 | Gnarfoz | heh |
| 16:19.23 | Gnarfoz | at least it's not increasing |
| 16:19.35 | Mr_Rabies2 | actually, i just did a GC |
| 16:19.42 | Mr_Rabies2 | and its only using 14 |
| 16:19.43 | Gnarfoz | it just jumps from whatever to whatever+big chunk of memory |
| 16:20.40 | Gnarfoz | of course, it would be interesting to see how much this can be brought down by whatever means, also because Auctioneer is really still without real competition |
| 16:25.27 | Wobin | It's true |
| 16:25.31 | Wobin | There's KCItems |
| 16:25.44 | Wobin | but I'm still waiting for the conversion to Ace2 and fix of certain bugs |
| 16:30.11 | |Jelly| | Mods shouldn't be allowed to run unless they're Ace, IMO. |
| 16:30.41 | Wobin | That's not really a good statement =P |
| 16:30.58 | |Jelly| | Sure it is. |
| 16:31.06 | Wobin | I'd have to totally disagree |
| 16:31.12 | Wobin | What about clad's addons? |
| 16:31.29 | |Jelly| | But more importantly, if you frequent the UI forums and believed that I really meant that, introduce your face to the nearest wall. <3 |
| 16:31.53 | Wobin | I couldn't frequent the ui forums |
| 16:31.58 | Wobin | I value my sanity far too much for that |
| 16:32.14 | |Jelly| | then i suppose you're in luck! |
| 16:32.28 | |Jelly| | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=109971652&sid=1&pageNo=4 |
| 16:32.43 | |Jelly| | Shirik: If you're reading, no, I'm not gonna bump it. 8P |
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| 16:35.45 | |Jelly| | (For the record, I'm not anti-ace either as one can tell by my UI. lol) |
| 16:36.12 | Mr_Rabies2 | i'm anti addon politics |
| 16:36.22 | Mr_Rabies2 | they're just lines of code, get over it jerks >:[ |
| 16:36.24 | |Jelly| | ...and to answer your question about Clad. I use both clique and perfect raid. 8) |
| 16:36.35 | |Jelly| | ZOMG! |
| 16:36.44 | |Jelly| | That calls for a... |
| 16:36.46 | |Jelly| | LUA |
| 16:36.46 | krka | |Jelly|: Lua is not an acronym. |
| 16:36.48 | Wobin | I'm anti-badcoding =P |
| 16:40.13 | Mr_Rabies2 | if it works, and doesn't bog my system down, and is visually appealing to me, i don't care if you used the soul of an orphan as a lib |
| 16:40.14 | |Jelly| | I wish I was anti-procrastination |
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| 16:57.12 | zenzelezz | do hunter pets lose happiness if they die in PvP? |
| 16:57.24 | |Jelly|ACERDX | i hope |
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| 16:58.44 | Mr_Rabies2 | probably, but happiness really is more of an annoyance than anything else |
| 16:58.52 | |Jelly|ACERDX | http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y225/dlouhys/ToU.jpg back to cleaning and fooding |
| 16:59.06 | Mr_Rabies2 | die once in pvp with your pet alive and he gets 100% happiness again |
| 16:59.37 | Mr_Rabies2 | well, in bgs |
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| 17:23.35 | Wobin | Fin: Are you pgl? |
| 17:24.55 | sstixrud | Question, pre 2.1 my mode hide button frames (but not the buttons themselfs) by simply setting the parent frame to Alpha(0). Post 2.1 this hides the buttons as well. What is the correct way to hide the frame background without hidding the attached buttons? |
| 17:25.05 | sstixrud | mode = mod |
| 17:27.12 | Wobin | Fin: Cause if you are, the <3 |
| 17:29.09 | zenzelezz | pgl? |
| 17:29.21 | Wobin | on the KTM thread |
| 17:29.26 | Wobin | on Curse |
| 17:31.48 | Fin | Wobin: yes |
| 17:32.14 | Wobin | Fin: You went and did what I wanted to do, but couldn't bear to do =) |
| 17:33.33 | Fin | to be fair, there were insults on both sides, but not consistently, or with that attitude |
| 17:33.55 | Wobin | It's true |
| 17:34.06 | Wobin | Less so in the last few pages though |
| 17:34.12 | Wobin | on the nonKenco side |
| 17:34.33 | Wobin | He just rubbed me the wrong way with the tone of all his posts =) |
| 17:35.08 | Punkie` | Well the latter pages really showed it you know, especially with Kaelten trying to calm everything down - then he just goes and insults Kaelten anyway |
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| 17:35.51 | Fin | it's fascinating |
| 17:36.20 | Wobin | It's been my soap opera for the last few days =P |
| 17:37.42 | Punkie` | What does Kenco do for a living anyway? |
| 17:37.50 | Cairenn|afk | link? |
| 17:38.05 | Wobin | http://www-en.curse-gaming.com/downloads/details/4204/ |
| 17:38.12 | Wobin | It's a ... few... pages long in comments |
| 17:38.19 | Kaelten | Cairenn|afk: about 14 pages |
| 17:38.22 | Kaelten | its nuts |
| 17:38.41 | Kaelten | he reminds me of another author that luckily took his leave some time ago. |
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| 17:38.55 | Fin | Antiarc's comment (currently at the bottom of page 2) is so well written |
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| 17:39.13 | Fin | who was that, if I can ask? |
| 17:39.25 | Wobin | I suggest Saien =P |
| 17:40.14 | Wobin | ~emulate saien |
| 17:40.15 | purl | You are of course, wrong, and I invite you to prove it to yourself. |
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| 17:40.36 | aibo | hi there |
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| 17:40.38 | Punkie` | What Addon did he write? |
| 17:40.40 | Cairenn|afk | been a while since I've seen that one |
| 17:40.40 | Fin | how does purl's emulate thing work? |
| 17:40.48 | Kaelten | Wobin: lol |
| 17:40.48 | Wobin | ~literal emulate saien |
| 17:40.49 | purl | "emulate saien" is "<reply>Slash commands are ameturish.||<reply>I could have helped you, but I won't.||<reply>You are of course, wrong, and I invite you to prove it to yourself.||<reply>This is a stunningly stupid question to direct at me.||<reply>Your question is not very descriptive, helpful, or useful in any manner.||<reply>Why do I care? Why are you posting ... |
| 17:40.49 | Fin | he wrote some very durable addons - I'm still using a few |
| 17:40.56 | Fin | http://web.archive.org/web/20051223160421/64.168.251.69/wow/ |
| 17:41.07 | aibo | is anyone there to help me getting the users list on a server through an addon? |
| 17:41.13 | Fin | ohh, so all the emulates are just replies? huh |
| 17:41.23 | Cairenn|afk | yeah |
| 17:41.30 | Cairenn|afk | they have to be programmed in |
| 17:41.32 | sstixrud | Question, pre 2.1 my addon hides button frames (but not the buttons themselves) by simply setting the parent frame to Alpha(0). Post 2.1 this hides the buttons as well. What is the correct way to hide the frame background (border + border text) without hidding the attached buttons? |
| 17:41.37 | Cairenn|afk | ~literal Cairenn |
| 17:41.38 | purl | "cairenn" is "one of the administrators of WoWInterface.com, also EQInterface, EQ2Interface and VGInterface, or a cat if you ask politely." |
| 17:41.44 | Cairenn|afk | ~literal emulate Cairenn |
| 17:41.44 | purl | "emulate cairenn" is "<action> purrs || <action> stealth-bumps a couple threads" |
| 17:41.50 | Fin | Cairenn|afk: mew? |
| 17:41.58 | Kaelten | Cairenn|afk: please be a kitty? |
| 17:41.59 | Fin | heh |
| 17:42.14 | Kaelten | ~literal Kaelten |
| 17:42.15 | purl | "kaelten" is "(awsome|spilling be champien|breaker of forums|More RAM is coming..... KAELTEN AWAYYYYYYYY!!!)" |
| 17:42.19 | aibo | is anyone there to help me getting the users list on a server through an addon? |
| 17:42.38 | Kaelten | bah |
| 17:42.50 | Fin | aibo: have you had a look at Census+'s code? |
| 17:43.01 | Cairenn|afk | purl, no, Cairenn is one of the administrators of WoWInterface, also EQI, EQ2I, LotROI and VGI |
| 17:43.02 | purl | Cairenn|afk: okay |
| 17:43.20 | Wobin | Cairenn|afk: Not as much fun as a kitteh =( |
| 17:43.22 | Cairenn|afk | purl, no, emulate Cairenn is <action> purrs |
| 17:43.22 | purl | okay, Cairenn|afk |
| 17:43.57 | Cairenn|afk | Fin: and it's considered rude to change someone's self-set factoids/emulates *glares at the channel* |
| 17:44.25 | Kaelten | ~literal emulate Kaelten |
| 17:44.30 | aibo | Fin: not yet |
| 17:44.39 | Fin | Cairenn|afk: have I done that? er |
| 17:44.57 | Cairenn|afk | no, was telling you, and telling off [whoever] changed mine |
| 17:45.01 | Fin | oh, righto |
| 17:45.15 | aibo | fin: do you think that might help? |
| 17:45.25 | Fin | well, yes, I would only ever do that to someone I knew well, or added an "also" |
| 17:45.31 | sstixrud | I hate xml and wow frames |
| 17:45.54 | Fin | aibo: just so I'm sure I haven't got this wrong, you want a list of all the users on the server via an addon? |
| 17:46.03 | aibo | yes |
| 17:46.05 | Cairenn|afk | I don't really mind those two changes that were made, but it's just good policy to not |
| 17:46.06 | Fin | OK |
| 17:46.17 | Fin | well basically you have to do a lot of /whos |
| 17:46.20 | Cairenn|afk | and there have been some very unpleasant changes that have been made in the past |
| 17:46.30 | aibo | fin: hmm |
| 17:46.35 | Fin | every time you get a result of 50 names, you have to narrow the /who until you get less than 50 |
| 17:46.44 | Fin | because you can't tell how many results over 50 there are |
| 17:47.02 | Fin | so instead of /who a-b you have to do /who aa-am; /who am-az |
| 17:47.04 | Fin | etc. |
| 17:47.54 | aibo | fin: ohh |
| 17:47.55 | Fin | the whole purpose of Census+ is to get a list of all the players currently online for later analysis |
| 17:48.09 | Fin | that's why I suggested looking at the code |
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| 17:48.18 | aibo | fin: okkk |
| 17:48.45 | aibo | fin: i think doing /who is not good way to do that |
| 17:48.54 | Fin | there aren't many options |
| 17:49.05 | Fin | there's actually only one |
| 17:49.14 | Fin | option |
| 17:49.36 | aibo | fin: actaully wobin asked me to try the armoury |
| 17:49.53 | Wobin | I'm not sure if the armory info can be leveraged to find the information needed |
| 17:49.54 | aibo | fin: but i don't think you can scrub the results from that site? |
| 17:49.54 | N00bZXI | The flames in ktm are still going? |
| 17:49.55 | Fin | I'm not sure if that means it's not an option anymore... I guess you always have the option of not opting for it |
| 17:50.28 | Fin | aibo: I was suggesting you look at the Lua code of the addon Census+, not a site |
| 17:50.41 | aibo | fin: ok |
| 17:51.05 | aibo | fin: can i have your email address plz as i can't come online from office and most of the time i will be in office |
| 17:52.12 | Fin | I'm sorry, but I'm not willing to walk you through the process, I was just trying to give you some pointers |
| 17:52.29 | Fin | what the process ends up being |
| 17:52.42 | aibo | fin: i know |
| 17:52.44 | Fin | I'm not as nice as some people and very lazy |
| 17:53.10 | Wobin | We call him MeanFin |
| 17:53.28 | aibo | hahaha |
| 17:53.33 | Fin | behind my back, though, so I don't mind |
| 17:53.47 | aibo | thanks for your help |
| 17:53.55 | aibo | caio |
| 17:54.00 | Fin | good luck |
| 17:54.04 | Fin | cau |
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| 17:57.44 | sstixrud | Question, pre 2.1 my addon hides button frames (but not the buttons themselves) by simply setting the parent frame to Alpha(0). Post 2.1 this hides the buttons as well. What is the correct way to hide the frame background (border + border text) without hidding the attached buttons? |
| 17:57.56 | N00bZXI | Question regarding design: ATM, Rage_Minimap swallows any addon minimap button, reparents and reanchors it to it's own frame, and prevents it from being dragged. Would it be better to instead hide all button on login, show them instead of the frame? |
| 18:00.10 | Fin | sstixrud: I believe it's to set the alpha of the buttons to >0 |
| 18:00.45 | sstixrud | That was true pre 2.1 |
| 18:01.03 | sstixrud | If I change the frame to 0 then change the buttons to 1 the buttons remain 0 post 2.1 :| |
| 18:01.21 | Fin | I mean, set the parent frame to alpha(0) and the buttons alpha(>0) |
| 18:01.28 | Fin | ah |
| 18:01.38 | sstixrud | ya :| |
| 18:02.02 | sstixrud | I just want to hide the frames background and text, as I use the parent frames border for dragging |
| 18:07.06 | Fin | sstixrud: what did you try setting the alpha of the buttons to? |
| 18:10.32 | sstixrud | UBPlayerBarFrame:SetAlpha(0), PlayerUnitButton:SetAlpha(1) |
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| 18:11.00 | sstixrud | which used to work fine |
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| 18:14.51 | sstixrud | Maybe Kaso knows =), post 2.1 how do you change do you hide actionbuttons parent frames without hiding the buttons.. pre 2.0 you could just alpha(0) the frame and then alpha(1) the buttons |
| 18:15.15 | Fin | how about |
| 18:15.21 | Fin | changing the parent temporarily? |
| 18:15.38 | sstixrud | Not sure that I follow |
| 18:16.03 | Fin | change the buttons' parent frame to something else, change the frame's alpha, then change back |
| 18:16.07 | Fin | actually that wouldn't work |
| 18:16.20 | Fin | but only because when you change back I think the alpha would prop(o?a?)gate |
| 18:16.44 | Fin | but you could just not change it back |
| 18:17.01 | Kaso | sstixrud, you need to set the child's alpha to anything but 1 |
| 18:17.05 | Kaso | 0.999 |
| 18:17.16 | sstixrud | I think i tried that, ill try again |
| 18:17.19 | Kaso | when children have 1 alpha they take the alpha of thier parents |
| 18:17.39 | Kaso | at least thats what i remeber, may have changed in a patch, havent played around for a while |
| 18:18.50 | sstixrud | nope doesnt work :| |
| 18:19.41 | Kaso | tried greated than 1 alpha? |
| 18:19.44 | Kaso | greater |
| 18:19.48 | foxlit | Kaso: changed in 2.1.2? |
| 18:19.55 | Fin | [17:57:12] < Dvr-> http://www-1.ibm.com/support/docview.wss?uid=swg21233077&loc=%22%3E%3Cbody%20onload=alert('OWNED')%20x=%22en_US |
| 18:20.04 | foxlit | They inherit alpha if it's unchanged, but I believe they now made it stack like scaling |
| 18:20.09 | zenzelezz | isn't alpha somehow inherited? Pure speculation, I didn't use it much |
| 18:20.31 | Fin | there was something in the 2.1 patches about it being inherited, yes |
| 18:20.46 | Shirik | 082:312:10 12‹wereHamster12› Shirik, lua is interpreted, as long as the buggy piece of code isn't reached it won't cause any harm |
| 18:20.47 | Shirik | ? |
| 18:20.51 | Fin | "Frame alpha now propagates in the same way as scale (though is clamped between 0 and 1 on each object). This means you can cleanly fade the whole UI or specific frame assemblies." |
| 18:20.53 | sstixrud | ya there was a bug in cooldown timers |
| 18:21.08 | sstixrud | in the actionbutton's alpha setting for cooldowns |
| 18:23.36 | sstixrud | I wonder if I will be forced to simulate the old behavior by using multiple attached frames |
| 18:23.38 | Fin | what does PlayerUnitButton:GetEffectiveAlpha() -- return? |
| 18:24.01 | Fin | oh, did I just suggest an old hack? |
| 18:24.02 | Fin | sorry |
| 18:24.56 | Fin | ahh |
| 18:25.03 | Fin | I think I might know what it could be |
| 18:25.14 | sstixrud | oh? |
| 18:25.16 | Fin | NEW - alpha = Frame:GetEffectiveAlpha() - Returns the effective alpha of a frame, which is logically Frame:GetParent():GetEffectiveAlpha() * Frame:GetAlpha() |
| 18:25.36 | Fin | if the parent's alpha is 0, then the child's effective alpha is always going to be 0 too, right? |
| 18:26.03 | sstixrud | yes |
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| 18:26.59 | sstixrud | well, if the parent alpha is .5 I still can't change the child to .6-1 |
| 18:28.18 | Fin | but it looks like you shouldn't be able to do that - I don't know much about frames, sorry, but is there a way of making a child frame a new, er... wait I'll go read a bit and get back to you |
| 18:29.06 | sstixrud | I may of been explotiing a bug... I dunno but it did work fine pre 2.1 :) |
| 18:29.29 | sstixrud | frames / wow xml is the bane of my existence :) |
| 18:33.40 | Fin | I think also another possibility is that PlayerUnitButton doesn't exist |
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| 18:36.31 | sstixrud | what do u mean |
| 18:36.47 | sstixrud | Well its actually PlayerUnitButton1-12 |
| 18:37.00 | sstixrud | I know it exists I created it :P |
| 18:37.01 | sstixrud | heh |
| 18:37.52 | Fin | oh well |
| 18:38.25 | sstixrud | ya, I hate frames ;) |
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| 18:38.56 | sstixrud | lua is the easy part of wow addons for me.. the xml is what I stress over |
| 18:39.32 | N00bZXI | You can create frames with lua |
| 18:39.54 | Aella | But then you lose the structure of XML, and still need to do the same work. |
| 18:39.55 | N00bZXI | local f=CreateFrame(type, [name, parent, inherites]) |
| 18:39.59 | sstixrud | I just mean the frame logic, not the creation per say, although the xml throws me sometimes too |
| 18:40.23 | N00bZXI | I personally find frames a lot easier to create with lua |
| 18:41.00 | Aella | I'll confess, I've never understood the problem with XML. I can't copy/paste from the WoW UI frames if I'm making frames with Lua. =P |
| 18:41.09 | foxlit | <Frame name="Name" parent="parent" inherits="inherits"> |
| 18:41.10 | foxlit | Done! |
| 18:42.04 | zenzelezz | I had some weird dream tonight... a guildie was telling me about 2.2 and a model change on Gruul, and how he was still not able to eat dragons |
| 18:42.04 | sstixrud | heh, I can't even figure out how to create two frames where one is always attached to the other! |
| 18:42.33 | sstixrud | ya, that is a weird dream.. dragons eat sheep |
| 18:43.03 | Aella | sstixrud: create two frames, and put an anchor on one relativeTo="" another frame. |
| 18:43.07 | Fin | right, so, I'm sort of right I think |
| 18:43.21 | N00bZXI | sstixrud: local f=CreateFrame("FRAME") local f2=CreateFrame("FRAME") f2:SetPoint("TOPLEFT", f1, "TOPLEFT", 10,10) |
| 18:43.23 | N00bZXI | done |
| 18:43.27 | Fin | SetAlpha always takes into account the parent frame's alpha when setting it |
| 18:43.54 | Fin | I know you already knew this |
| 18:44.11 | Fin | I'm repeating it to myself because it makes me happy |
| 18:44.31 | sstixrud | hmm I tried that but when I drag one the other stays :) |
| 18:44.45 | Fin | then SetParent() ? |
| 18:44.53 | N00bZXI | That'll only make it show/hide with the other frame |
| 18:45.09 | N00bZXI | And inherit it's alpha/scale/etc |
| 18:45.16 | Fin | I thought that was the whole point |
| 18:45.50 | sstixrud | what I want is a frame I can use to label and drag another frame, since I ultimiately want to be able to hide the label/drag frame without hidding the actionbuttons |
| 18:46.36 | N00bZXI | You need to set the second frame's point relative to the first |
| 18:47.24 | Aella | Fairly sure all frame anchor points are cleared when the frame begins dragging, so if the dragging frame anchors to something else, it won't do anything. |
| 18:47.40 | sstixrud | it was so much easier when I could just alpha the parent frame and it did not hide the actionbuttons :) |
| 18:48.06 | N00bZXI | Aella: You're dragging a different frame |
| 18:48.14 | sstixrud | well I know it is possible, because new trinitybars does it and mods like x-perl are obviously composed of multiple frames |
| 18:48.36 | N00bZXI | sstixrud: Create two frames, make their parents the same |
| 18:48.44 | N00bZXI | sstixrud: Set one frame to anchor to another |
| 18:49.06 | N00bZXI | And make the second frame drag'able |
| 18:49.16 | N00bZXI | If the second one is hidden first one is still shown |
| 18:49.28 | Aella | So if frame X is draggable, frame Y has to anchor to frame X, not frame X to frame Y... or am I off-base? |
| 18:49.40 | sstixrud | oh... so I would need three frames to do what I want then (since I need a common parent that is not UIParent?) |
| 18:50.12 | N00bZXI | frame X is draggable, frame Y is anchored to frame X, both frames parent is frame Z |
| 18:50.15 | N00bZXI | which can be UIParent |
| 18:50.30 | sstixrud | ok. Thought I tried that will try again |
| 18:51.40 | N00bZXI | Question: Can I do something like {Minimap:GetChildren(), MinimapBackdrop:GetChildren()} ? |
| 18:52.20 | Aella | You'll only get the first child of Minimap, plus all children of MinimapBackdrop. |
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| 18:52.38 | N00bZXI | I'm looking for all children of both :\ |
| 18:52.43 | N00bZXI | Is there any easy way of doing this? |
| 18:52.55 | Aella | Not a one-liner. |
| 18:53.04 | N00bZXI | Alright |
| 18:53.26 | N00bZXI | Guess I'll have to repeat some code |
| 18:53.49 | Aella | Make a utility tappend() function, or something. |
| 18:54.28 | N00bZXI | for _,f in pairs({Minimap:GetChildren()}) do |
| 18:54.30 | N00bZXI | if f:GetFrameType() ~= "Model" and not t[f] then --swallow it |
| 18:54.31 | N00bZXI | f:SetParent(Minimap.buttons) |
| 18:54.32 | N00bZXI | end |
| 18:54.34 | N00bZXI | end |
| 18:54.48 | N00bZXI | I guess I could though |
| 18:55.07 | Cairenn|afk | happy father's day to any for whom it applies - see you later, out for the afternoon/evening |
| 18:56.03 | Cide- | N00bZXI: should pastey that next time :) |
| 18:56.37 | N00bZXI | Cide-: Hmm, didn't think I should pastey 5 lines of code, I will in the future though. |
| 18:56.44 | Cide- | well |
| 18:56.50 | Cide- | a better option would be to remove the newlines |
| 18:57.08 | Cide- | for _,f in pairs({Minimap:GetChildren()}) do if f:GetFrameType() ~= "Model" and not t[f] then f:SetParent(Minimap.buttons) end end |
| 19:15.59 | Kaso | I'm so confused by mod_rewrite >.< |
| 19:42.51 | Fin | mod_rewrite rules |
| 19:42.54 | Fin | it's your friend |
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| 20:00.16 | Naki | o.O what happened to the funny topics? |
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| 20:01.40 | zenzelezz | they're still here when people aren't fighting |
| 20:02.38 | Naki | did someone suggest microsoft ace windows again? |
| 20:02.47 | zenzelezz | why do you moan when falling in ghost form when you take no damage? |
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| 20:04.53 | N00bZXI | Well I believe I've fixed my fps problems finally |
| 20:05.35 | TC-Holding | you turned off your monitor? |
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| 20:07.23 | N00bZXI | Nope, underclocked my GPU by 25 mhz |
| 20:07.35 | N00bZXI | Which SHOULD lower performance but I get 20 higher fps now |
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| 20:12.40 | Kaso | I know this is slightly offtopic, but anyone know about mod_rewrite and can help me, im getting awfully confused |
| 20:12.52 | Corrodias | argh, my computer has all that "sticky dust" in it >:/ |
| 20:13.00 | FlAWD | smoker? |
| 20:13.15 | Corrodias | the stuff that doesn't come off even if you blow air at it or even wipe it with a cloth... |
| 20:13.20 | FlAWD | ya |
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| 20:27.08 | N00bZXI_ | wtf? |
| 20:32.02 | Corrodias | i need to figure out a way to protect my computers from dust |
| 20:32.07 | Corrodias | keep it from getting in there in the first place |
| 20:39.31 | zenzelezz | hard if you don't want to block out the air |
| 20:42.42 | Corrodias | can't make it a completely closed system because it would heat up |
| 20:42.52 | zenzelezz | that's pretty much what I meant :) |
| 20:43.16 | Corrodias | this is quite a conundrum |
| 20:43.44 | Corrodias | makes me wish i could make a sort of... cabinet with an air filter providing all the incoming air |
| 20:44.37 | Naki | if you encase your computer in a burning inferno, the dust will burn before it can contaminate your computer |
| 20:46.00 | Naki | or you could just ace your computer. I heard it makes it so efficient dust can't get near it |
| 20:46.43 | Corrodias | ace? |
| 20:46.48 | TC-Holding | heh |
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| 21:00.44 | zenzelezz | 1% wipes sadden me |
| 21:12.29 | TC-Holding | well 99% wipes might be worse though |
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| 21:13.59 | Thunder_Child | at least for 1% you know you CAN kill the boss |
| 21:14.02 | Kaso | 1% arent really bad when you think logically about it, either A) you got a fluke run and did much better than you normally do; in that case you didnt really deserve to win B) you relyably get under 10,5%; in that case you're gonna kill it soon anyway so all you've really lost is like 2g repairs |
| 21:14.30 | Kaso | damn Thunder_Child for preempting my wonderfully typed out logical rhetoric |
| 21:15.01 | Thunder_Child | heh, sry Kaso, next time i will check with you first |
| 21:15.09 | [dRaCo] | well, and some money for those pots and stuff |
| 21:15.32 | zenzelezz | Thunder_Child: depends, when you've had to clear the post-King trash twice and Gruul still isn't down, 1% wipes suck |
| 21:15.49 | N00bZXI | Question: At what event are all Addons supposed to be loaded? PLAYER_ENTERING_WORLD? |
| 21:16.11 | Thunder_Child | never said they didnt suck |
| 21:16.11 | Kaydeethree | variables_loaded? |
| 21:16.19 | Kaso | varibles loaded is your addon |
| 21:16.44 | Kaso | techincally you'd have to listen out for the last ADDON_LOADED, but its fairly safe to assume all addons are loaded on PEW |
| 21:16.45 | Kaydeethree | ah, nah. my little modifier addon uses pew |
| 21:19.49 | N00bZXI | Should I use player_entering_world or variables_loaded or player_login? |
| 21:20.01 | Kaso | N00bZXI, what do you want to do? |
| 21:20.50 | N00bZXI | I'm trying to fix my minimap button hider to also hide minimap buttons created with fubarplugin |
| 21:21.30 | N00bZXI | And with addons that load after it does |
| 21:22.05 | Kaso | its possible for addons to load any time with Load On Demand |
| 21:22.30 | Kaso | you should just listen out for ADDON_LOADED after pew and if any fire then search for something to hide again |
| 21:22.57 | N00bZXI | I was doing this, the problem is with Ace mods the minimap button doesn't get created |
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| 21:23.00 | N00bZXI | until some time passes |
| 21:23.57 | N00bZXI | So now I think it'd be best to first wait for some event to fire, then attempt to hide them, then register ADDON_LOADED |
| 21:25.17 | N00bZXI | Just tried PLAYER_ENTERING_WORLD and apparantly the buttons are created some time after that. |
| 21:25.27 | N00bZXI | I REALLY don't want to securehook CreateFrame |
| 21:26.28 | Kaso | you'd have to dissect the ace code to see what leads to them creating their buttons |
| 21:28.10 | N00bZXI | Seems to be working if I add a script that waits one second then attempts to hide them |
| 21:30.32 | N00bZXI | but that seems like a bit of a hack.. |
| 21:31.54 | JoshBorke | what are you trying to do? |
| 21:32.31 | N00bZXI | Reparent any minimap icons an addon creates to my own frame which shows/hides when rightclicking the minimap |
| 21:34.01 | JoshBorke | my first thought is: register for PL, iterate over all the minimap icons and do your thing, also register for ADDON_LOADED and do your thing then too |
| 21:34.50 | N00bZXI | That's exactly what I'm doing, except using PLAYER_ENTERING_WORLD, and waiting one second after that to look for buttons |
| 21:35.19 | JoshBorke | i'm pretty sure that the fully loaded event is triggered by PL and not PEW, but I'm not positive |
| 21:35.34 | Corrodias | now THIS is weird |
| 21:35.38 | N00bZXI | PEW happens after PL, which is why I was using it |
| 21:35.47 | Corrodias | someone linked a jewelcrafting recipe in guild chat and we're seeing about 3 different things on the item it makes |
| 21:36.01 | zenzelezz | how so? |
| 21:36.01 | Corrodias | some of us see just the regular stuff, some also see +55 def rating, and one guy sees +11 hp/5 |
| 21:36.24 | zenzelezz | recipe linking has some weird issues |
| 21:36.28 | zenzelezz | with random "enchants" |
| 21:36.54 | Corrodias | i guess that'd explain it |
| 21:39.25 | zenzelezz | http://home.samsen.com/zenzelezz/imba_bag.jpg <-- example |
| 21:39.29 | zenzelezz | it was a genuine link, not faked |
| 21:39.59 | Kaso | by genuine you mean, linkable, rather than not a faked tooltip? |
| 21:40.15 | zenzelezz | shift + left-clicked |
| 21:40.25 | Kaso | direct from the default UI? |
| 21:40.28 | Kaso | how wierd |
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| 21:43.26 | N00bZXI | http://wowi.pastey.net/57036 appears to be working |
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| 21:49.24 | Thunder_Child | so damn sad, my guildies the most retarded person in this pug |
| 21:51.44 | zenzelezz | doh |
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| 21:56.23 | Kaydeethree | heh. my first ever raid invite from a spammer |
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| 21:57.22 | Thunder_Child | is there an addon that will cancel MC if an event happens? |
| 21:58.19 | Kaso | you cant cancel casts without a button push |
| 21:58.24 | Kaso | (eg its secure) |
| 21:58.28 | Thunder_Child | not cast |
| 21:58.35 | Kaso | oh, you mean dispell the buff |
| 21:58.37 | Thunder_Child | the...effect |
| 21:58.38 | Thunder_Child | yes |
| 21:58.53 | Kaso | hmm, cant see why you couldnt do that, wouldnt be hard. |
| 21:59.05 | Thunder_Child | like on a fear... |
| 22:00.07 | Thunder_Child | just happend now...pulled another group...wiped |
| 22:03.57 | N00bZXI | Question regarding patterns: %d[%d] - would it match +20? |
| 22:04.10 | N00bZXI | 20* |
| 22:05.09 | Kaso | yes |
| 22:05.16 | Kaso | but the [] are superflous |
| 22:05.25 | Cide | >>> ("20"):match("%d[%d"]) |
| 22:05.25 | Cide | Cide: [string "("20"):match("%d[%d"])"]:1: ')' expected near ']' |
| 22:05.27 | Cide | >>> ("20"):match("%d[%d]") |
| 22:05.27 | Cide | Cide: "20" |
| 22:08.59 | Kaso | Thunder_Child, even if you cancelled MC when the mob got feared, it'd still pull aggro onto you if/when it ran into a pack of mobs |
| 22:09.03 | N00bZXI | Well that's not working.. trying to get a pattern that will match any number two digits |
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| 22:09.39 | Cide | any number two digits? |
| 22:10.03 | N00bZXI | Yep (trying to filter out gains from VT from msbt) |
| 22:10.17 | N00bZXI | two digits or one digit I should note |
| 22:10.19 | Cide | no clue what "any number two digits" works |
| 22:10.26 | Cide | s/works/means/ |
| 22:10.26 | Kaso | %d%d? |
| 22:10.43 | JoshBork1 | any two digit numbers? |
| 22:10.48 | Kaso | >>>("20"):match("%d%d?") |
| 22:10.48 | Cide | Kaso: "20" |
| 22:10.50 | Kaso | >>>("2"):match("%d%d?") |
| 22:10.51 | Cide | Kaso: "2" |
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| 22:11.07 | JoshBork1 | >>>("200"):match("%d%d") |
| 22:11.07 | Cide | JoshBork1: "20" |
| 22:11.30 | Kaso | josh, but in his situation it'll be surrounded by a rest of a pattern |
| 22:11.56 | Kaso | like "Vampiric Embrace heals you for %d%d?%." or something. |
| 22:12.22 | N00bZXI | Vampiric Touch |
| 22:12.34 | Thunder_Child | really Kaso? |
| 22:13.12 | Cide | um |
| 22:13.24 | Cide | why does "Vampiric Embrace heals you for %d+%." not work? |
| 22:13.30 | ckknight | "Vampiric Touch heals you for %d+%." |
| 22:13.32 | ckknight | blah |
| 22:13.34 | ckknight | Cide beat me |
| 22:13.52 | JoshBork1 | ckknight: because Vampiric Touch doesn't heal you |
| 22:14.03 | ckknight | I don't know these things |
| 22:14.38 | N00bZXI | Cide: The combat log event is 'You gain %d+ mana' |
| 22:14.50 | N00bZXI | Not talking about VE, talking about VT |
| 22:14.51 | chuckg | ("200"):match("%d2") |
| 22:14.56 | chuckg | >>>("200"):match("%d2") |
| 22:14.56 | Cide | chuckg: nil |
| 22:15.00 | chuckg | Oh :( |
| 22:15.01 | Cide | N00bZXI: still not following |
| 22:15.30 | N00bZXI | Cide: You know what vampiric touch does, correct? |
| 22:15.45 | Cide | I'm a priest, I would hope so |
| 22:16.01 | N00bZXI | What I'm trying to do is filter out mana gain from it. |
| 22:16.08 | Cide | so what's the problem? |
| 22:16.30 | N00bZXI | %d+ mana will also filter out pots |
| 22:16.53 | N00bZXI | Hence why I'd only like to filter two-digits-or-less |
| 22:17.30 | Cide | "^You gain %d%d? mana%.$" |
| 22:17.47 | Cide | >>> ("You gain 22 mana."):match("^You gain %d%d? mana%.$") |
| 22:17.47 | Cide | Cide: "You gain 22 mana." |
| 22:17.50 | Cide | >>> ("You gain 2 mana."):match("^You gain %d%d? mana%.$") |
| 22:17.50 | Cide | Cide: "You gain 2 mana." |
| 22:17.54 | Cide | >>> ("You gain 222 mana."):match("^You gain %d%d? mana%.$") |
| 22:17.54 | Cide | Cide: nil |
| 22:18.18 | N00bZXI | Thanks! The ? makes it optional? |
| 22:18.20 | Kaso | Thunder_Child, well, if you broke MC, it'd just be a mob that is hostile to you running around under fear, which is just the same as some warlock fearing a random mob into a pack, it pulls all the same. |
| 22:18.25 | Cide | yes |
| 22:18.27 | chuckg | Why not just %d+ ? |
| 22:18.34 | Cide | <N00bZXI> Hence why I'd only like to filter two-digits-or-less |
| 22:18.36 | Thunder_Child | poine |
| 22:18.41 | chuckg | Ahh gotcha. |
| 22:18.52 | chuckg | Missed that part of the convo. |
| 22:19.13 | Thunder_Child | point* |
| 22:19.14 | N00bZXI | Cide: Alright, I'll keep that in mind if I ever need to do anything similar in the future. Thanks again! |
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| 22:25.52 | Thunder_Child | Kaso, i dont think so, 1 time the MC'd mob got feard ran out of MC broke it, and was instantly no longer feared |
| 22:26.08 | Thunder_Child | s/MC b/MC range b/ |
| 22:28.20 | Kaso | hmm, im not sure, i've never seen that, guess i'd need to be tested or something.. |
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| 22:38.00 | Kaso | Anyone know mod_rewrite ? >.< |
| 22:38.22 | JoshBork1 | >< |
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| 22:38.58 | zenzelezz | this shaman is getting on my nerves. We're doing Nightbane, I'm tanking, and he runs up and gets himself cleaved to death |
| 22:39.09 | zenzelezz | then on the next try I notice, in /say, "lol", "look" |
| 22:39.34 | JoshBork1 | he must be masochistic like that, wnats to pay a repair bill |
| 22:39.44 | JoshBork1 | kaso: i've used it |
| 22:40.00 | zenzelezz | wouldn't mind it if he didn't cause problems for the other nine of us |
| 22:40.35 | Kaso | Do you know why http://pastey.net/57038-1u85 isnt working, i want to redirect all jpg pictures which do not have a jpg as their referer. |
| 22:44.00 | JoshBork1 | kaso: are you sure the referer is being passed? |
| 22:44.12 | foxlit | jpeg? |
| 22:44.17 | foxlit | But that's unrelated |
| 22:44.21 | Kaso | the reply to that pastey is the line from the apache host |
| 22:44.47 | Kaso | Where the 6th argument is the referer |
| 22:46.39 | JoshBork1 | meh, it looks fine |
| 22:47.38 | Kaso | and yet, doesnt work >.< im gonna have to get the mod-rewrite manual out and give it another read i think |
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| 23:02.20 | foxlit | Can I backreference inside a string.match pattern? |
| 23:02.29 | JoshBorke | yes |
| 23:02.35 | JoshBorke | wait, don't think so |
| 23:03.25 | JoshBorke | >>> print("hi") |
| 23:03.25 | Cide | JoshBorke: "hi" |
| 23:03.58 | JoshBorke | >>> print(string.match("bananana", "ba(.?.?)\1")) |
| 23:03.59 | Cide | JoshBorke: nil |
| 23:04.15 | JoshBorke | >>> print(string.match("bananana", "ba(.?.?)")) |
| 23:04.15 | Cide | JoshBorke: "na" |
| 23:04.53 | JoshBorke | foxlit: sorry, no |
| 23:04.58 | JoshBorke | foxlit: you can do it in string.sub though |
| 23:05.05 | foxlit | >>> print(string.match("bananana", "ba(.?.?)%1")) |
| 23:05.05 | Cide | foxlit: "na" |
| 23:05.13 | JoshBorke | crap! |
| 23:05.20 | JoshBorke | ~lart me |
| 23:05.20 | purl | shoves a crumpet down joshborke's throat, happy now?! Huh? Want some JAM with that? |
| 23:05.33 | foxlit | pil saves the day! |
| 23:05.44 | JoshBorke | helps if i use the right character |
| 23:05.47 | JoshBorke | man, i always do that |
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| 23:17.00 | Shirik|AFK | 192:022:56 12‹foxlit12› Can I backreference inside a string.match pattern? |
| 23:17.01 | Shirik|AFK | yes you can |
| 23:17.20 | Shirik | I see you figured that out on your own though >.> |
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| 23:51.37 | ZealotOnAStick | SSC raiding question: If you take out the pumping stations for doing lurker, and have scalding water, does that scalding water affect people in Watery Graves on Morogrim? |
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| 23:59.46 | Corrodias | HEY |
| 23:59.56 | zenzelezz | HIYA |
| 23:59.57 | Corrodias | my realm's eastern kingdoms world server just went down |
