| 00:00.09 | bleeter | cladhaire: that /script works fine |
| 00:00.38 | bleeter | clicking on the quest, tho, still throws the error |
| 00:00.54 | cladhaire | I just don't understand how that's possible |
| 00:00.58 | cladhaire | is it only that quest? |
| 00:01.20 | bleeter | that's the only one I've managed to throw the error on so far, yes |
| 00:02.16 | cladhaire | I'm not sure what to tell ya =/ |
| 00:02.23 | bleeter | heisenbug! |
| 00:03.02 | Kaso | Divert secondary EPS power to the heisenburg compensators Tuvok! |
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| 00:06.20 | Lunessa | ~die |
| 00:06.22 | purl | ACTION takes two shots to the head and crumples to the ground, lifeless. |
| 00:06.38 | bleeter | hmmm, I think I jsut managed to generate it using qid 631 on another toon, but noticed I'm missing the LH 40 subdirs, just fixing that and trying again |
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| 00:08.33 | TC-Working | ~Roulette |
| 00:08.35 | purl | ACTION watches tc-working pull the trigger: Click! |
| 00:13.43 | bleeter | cladhaire: ok, that 'fixed' the qid 631, hogger's still bustoid tho.. /me shrugs |
| 00:14.00 | cladhaire | O.o |
| 00:14.04 | cladhaire | okay |
| 00:15.22 | bleeter | shouldn't take you long to level a new toon to get the hogger quest and see if you get the same issue, tho ;) |
| 00:16.02 | TC-Working | just let him use your account.... |
| 00:16.13 | bleeter | I got one thing to say to that... |
| 00:16.15 | bleeter | balls |
| 00:16.20 | bleeter | :P |
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| 00:17.41 | TC-Working | as in 'they are lacking?' |
| 00:17.41 | TC-Working | lolcode http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=109832815&sid=1 |
| 00:18.33 | bleeter | cladhaire: ok, I've logged in one of my mains (lvl 66 ally mage). each and every group quest throws that error too. |
| 00:18.59 | cladhaire | something is fucked then |
| 00:19.05 | cladhaire | did you put put all the Lh directories in your addons folder? |
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| 00:20.31 | bleeter | the download is unzipped into Interface/Addons. I'm gunna have to afk temporarily, I'll play some more when I get back, and let you know how I go |
| 00:20.36 | bleeter | TC-Working: did you lol? |
| 00:20.45 | TC-Working | no |
| 00:21.04 | TheZanke | I dont think I am smart enough for this... |
| 00:21.17 | bleeter | WTB: [Sense of humour] for TC-Working |
| 00:21.31 | bleeter | TC-Working: that was a very weird night in here ;) |
| 00:21.53 | TC-Working | i own one, it's just twisted, and donest like puns |
| 00:21.57 | TC-Working | uhh...what night? |
| 00:21.57 | TheZanke | Like, I dont understand how I am supposed to know what to write in my XMl and i REAKKY dont understand how to NOT use a XML file.. |
| 00:22.23 | bleeter | the night of the 'ace-ify RDX' thread |
| 00:22.45 | Recluse | say... addons work on mac just like a pc in-game right? |
| 00:22.51 | Kaydeethree | yes |
| 00:22.59 | Kaso | TheZanke, what are you aiming to do |
| 00:23.15 | TC-Working | wasnt my night, but yes, was interesting |
| 00:23.25 | TC-Working | i blame |Jelly| for that |
| 00:23.57 | bleeter | I blame myself for the lolcode thread, and am still waiting for someone to help with the versioning foo |
| 00:24.11 | Kaso | did soluken really come in to wowi-l and ask what we were smoking? |
| 00:24.17 | Kaso | or was that a joke |
| 00:24.19 | TC-Working | bleeter, mahi is you? |
| 00:24.30 | TheZanke | Kaso, I am working on making (or re-making) a dodge parry counter I made prior to TBC... However, when I had first made it I had something that did the XML (or most of it) for me... |
| 00:24.32 | Recluse | kk. talking to a mac player who was told that addons did not work on macs lol |
| 00:24.32 | bleeter | TC-Working: aye |
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| 00:24.48 | TC-Working | soluken has been know to come here |
| 00:24.51 | TC-Working | known* |
| 00:25.05 | TC-Working | it's like the lord himself decending down to man |
| 00:25.07 | Kaydeethree | he joined the night of the aceify rdx thread |
| 00:25.15 | TC-Working | or something like that |
| 00:25.15 | Kaso | ah coo |
| 00:25.25 | bleeter | he stuck his head in on april 1st |
| 00:25.30 | Kaso | http://wowuides.wowinterface.com/ TheZanke? |
| 00:25.38 | TC-Working | ~seen soluken |
| 00:25.54 | purl | TC-Working: i haven't seen 'soluken' |
| 00:25.56 | bleeter | ~seen slouken |
| 00:25.58 | purl | slouken <n=hercules@ip68-5-37-254.oc.oc.cox.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowi-lounge, 1d 17h 52m 24s ago, saying: 'POOF!'. |
| 00:26.05 | Kaso | ha, proof |
| 00:26.14 | TheZanke | Kaso, YEAH... but I dont want to use it.. because I was told you dont learn that way... And (IMO) its like... Visual C++... |
| 00:26.18 | TC-Working | heh, we have an IP |
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| 00:26.24 | TC-Working | Cairenn|afk should really mask it |
| 00:26.36 | Kaydeethree | he's shown up with a masked IP before |
| 00:26.38 | bleeter | he should get his own libsdl mask ;) |
| 00:26.47 | TheZanke | TC-Working, I am good with IPs ^.^ |
| 00:26.51 | bleeter | as I've seen him in that chan more than in here =) |
| 00:26.56 | TC-Working | me to...thats the scary thing |
| 00:26.58 | Kaso | TheZanke, well explain briefly what you want yout frame to look like |
| 00:27.11 | TheZanke | TC-Working, I am getting certified for "Ethical Hacking" |
| 00:27.47 | TC-Working | i have a degree in networking security, the upperclasses were all about hacking |
| 00:28.05 | Kaydeethree | network security is fun |
| 00:28.19 | Kaydeethree | actually learning how to use the tools I've had on my linux box for years was nice |
| 00:28.27 | TheZanke | Kaso, I just need a frame with a minimize button and a hide button and then 2 lines one for "Dodge: [xxx]" and one for "Parry: [xxx]" OH and a reset button at the bottom. |
| 00:28.42 | bleeter | "Make something idiot proof, and some idiot will break it"; the fun bit is trying to think like a moron without getting stuck in that frame of mind ;) |
| 00:28.43 | TC-Working | P address info: |
| 00:28.43 | TC-Working | IP address: 68.5.37.254 |
| 00:28.43 | TC-Working | IP country: United States |
| 00:28.43 | TC-Working | IP Address state: California |
| 00:28.44 | TC-Working | IP Address city: Laguna Niguel |
| 00:28.44 | TC-Working | IP latitude: 33.535099 |
| 00:28.48 | TC-Working | IP longitude: -117.705299 |
| 00:29.11 | TheZanke | TC-Working, my 'nix is in pieces atm or id nmap his arse |
| 00:29.28 | Kaso | ~faraframes |
| 00:29.30 | purl | faraframes is a rather good tutorial of basic wow frames creation using XML, it can be found at http://fara.webeddie.com/frames/ |
| 00:29.32 | TC-Working | http://www.ip-adress.com/details.php?c=VEdGbmRXNWhJRTVwWjNWbGJBPT06VlZNPTpWVzVwZEdWa0lGTjBZWFJsY3c9PTo6TmpndU5TNHpOeTR5TlRRPTpRMjk0SUVOdmJXMTFibWxqWVhScGIyNXo6TXpNdU5UTTFNRGs1OkxURXhOeTQzTURVeU9Uaz06YVhBMk9DMDFMVE0zTFRJMU5DNXZZeTV2WXk1amIzZ3VibVYwOjpRMjk0SUVOdmJXMTFibWxqWVhScGIyNXo6OlEwRT06UTJGc2FXWnZjbTVwWVE9PTpRVzFsY21sallTOU1iM05mUVc1blpXeGxjdz09 |
| 00:29.41 | TC-Working | interesting if it's true |
| 00:29.45 | Kaso | TheZanke, read faraframes then come back with any questions. |
| 00:30.27 | bleeter | TC-Working: I'd suggest that's where the connection is, not where he is. eg, if you were to have my IP and do the same, it'd say 'Townsville' which is about 2000kms away ;) |
| 00:30.51 | TC-Working | thats your closest station? |
| 00:30.54 | TC-Working | eww |
| 00:31.11 | TheZanke | TC-Working, that website shows where my ISP is not me, when i look up my ip |
| 00:31.12 | bleeter | the closest station where I got the best deal from an ISP that I wanted |
| 00:31.19 | bleeter | broadband in .au sux ass |
| 00:31.21 | Kaydeethree | meh. I think my ip'll geolocate on the wrong side of the country |
| 00:31.54 | bleeter | where best deal = cell # of the senior sysadmin =) |
| 00:33.12 | TC-Working | hmm..putting in mine only gave an addy about 4 miles away |
| 00:33.46 | TheZanke | yeah, mine showed up 2 or 3 towns away |
| 00:34.03 | TC-Working | but thats deff not where my ISP is located |
| 00:34.05 | TheZanke | yes, towns not citys (indiana) |
| 00:34.20 | TC-Working | i think it might be closest routing station |
| 00:34.43 | TheZanke | Kaso, fara still apply in 2.0? |
| 00:35.09 | TC-Working | or maybe not...mine show up in the middle of a graveyard |
| 00:35.16 | TC-Working | s/show/shows/ |
| 00:35.22 | AnduinLothar | mine shows up about 10miles away |
| 00:35.48 | Kaso | TheZanke im pretty sure all of it is still valid for 2.1, just need to update its TOC number |
| 00:35.55 | Kaso | lemme quickly glance to make sure thats true |
| 00:36.27 | bleeter | oops, 3200kms |
| 00:38.07 | Kaso | TheZanke, yah seems to all be valid, its perhaps a little dated in its Lua coding style but it will all work |
| 00:38.13 | bleeter | though I don't think the google map directions are.. ideal. http://maps.google.com.au/maps?f=d&hl=en&saddr=townsville&daddr=lindisfarne&sll=-31.07527,145.92712&sspn=37.733791,53.261719&ie=UTF8&ll=-31.052934,145.986328&spn=37.733791,53.261719&z=4&om=1 |
| 00:38.40 | TC-Working | wow....you fail |
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| 00:39.29 | Kaso | "Continue straight onto Bass Strait Ferry Terminal" |
| 00:39.32 | TheZanke | bleeter, so is downloading a 2kb file like sucking a watermelon through a straw? |
| 00:39.32 | Kaso | Seems valid. |
| 00:39.48 | Juido | hello together |
| 00:40.00 | bleeter | TheZanke: that's common in most of .au ;) |
| 00:40.12 | TheZanke | that sucks :-( |
| 00:40.23 | TheZanke | i'd hate to be you on patch day.. |
| 00:40.25 | bleeter | really, though, I get about a 15ms difference through this connection layer 2, than if I were connected locally |
| 00:40.28 | TC-Working | lolz, Juido, that was such an airplace reference |
| 00:41.24 | Juido | omg.. the first sentence in my direction and i just need a dictionary ^^ |
| 00:41.36 | Kaso | Also bleeter "TOWNSVILLE"? What sort of crappy name is that? |
| 00:41.37 | TheZanke | someone needs to make a video tutorial on making a wow addon (in 2.1) |
| 00:41.44 | TheZanke | WTb |
| 00:41.45 | TC-Working | s/airplace/airplane/ |
| 00:41.52 | Kaso | TheZanke, you need cladhaire's book! |
| 00:41.55 | TC-Working | maybe i should spell correctly in the first place |
| 00:42.19 | bleeter | TheZanke: Unless one lives in one of the state capital cities, it's generally *very* hard to get a connection above 1.5Mbps |
| 00:42.31 | TheZanke | O.o |
| 00:42.37 | Kaso | also TheZanke, have you read the blizzard tutorials with the Interface Addon Kit? |
| 00:42.52 | Juido | well i see the words but i fear i miss the meaning :) |
| 00:43.01 | TC-Working | it's from a movie |
| 00:43.02 | TheZanke | maybe... |
| 00:43.07 | bleeter | Kaso: It was named after a sea captain, Mr. Towns, comissioned a wharf to be built ;) |
| 00:43.41 | Kaso | ha! Well i guess that makes more sense |
| 00:43.59 | Juido | whats the movie name, maybe i know it |
| 00:44.13 | TC-Working | Airplane |
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| 00:45.19 | Juido | hmm i know snakes on airplane, airplane crash, flightnumber 768, ... ^^ |
| 00:45.25 | Juido | well nevermind ^^ |
| 00:45.42 | TC-Working | http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0080339/ |
| 00:45.57 | Kaso | Surely you cant be serious! |
| 00:45.58 | Juido | why i came here.... is it possible to hide the macro names from the UI button grid ? |
| 00:46.17 | bleeter | note to enUS: the movie 'Airplane' was known in many other English speaking countries as 'Flying High' |
| 00:46.19 | Juido | im serious but dont call me surly :) |
| 00:46.27 | bleeter | 'coz, Airplane is a silly word :P |
| 00:46.53 | Juido | club 977 comercial :) my favourite inet radio station :)( |
| 00:46.57 | TC-Working | Ted Striker: Surely you can't be serious. |
| 00:46.57 | TC-Working | Rumack: I am serious... and don't call me Shirley. |
| 00:47.30 | Kaso | bleeter (avoids pun) are you serious? |
| 00:47.46 | TC-Working | ~lart ckknight |
| 00:47.46 | purl | pulls out his louisville slugger and uses ckknight's head to break the homerun record |
| 00:47.59 | TC-Working | ckknight, answer http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=110411214&sid=1 |
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| 00:48.14 | bleeter | Looks like I picked the wrong week to quit amphetamines |
| 00:48.30 | Kaso | I have a drinking problem! *splash* |
| 00:48.42 | Juido | anyone an idea how to hide the macro names from the macro icon ? its overlay with the amount of items left |
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| 00:49.04 | bleeter | Cut me some slack, Jack! Chump don' want no help, chump don't get da' help! |
| 00:49.15 | veronal | guys when i try to /cast within any macro i get "Tainted function: CastSpellByName()" error.. is there a way to fix that? |
| 00:49.32 | Kaydeethree | update the rest of your mods |
| 00:49.45 | Kaydeethree | is it saying what mod's tainting csbn()? |
| 00:50.24 | TheZanke | brb |
| 00:50.31 | veronal | yeah atlasloot, cartographer and prat |
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| 00:51.13 | Kaydeethree | keep disabling until you stop getting the error. the last mod you've disabled is the only one actually causing problems |
| 00:51.14 | TC-Working | Juido, have you tried http://www.wowwiki.com/Macros |
| 00:51.37 | Kaydeethree | and you're not using /script CastSpellByName() in that macro, are you? |
| 00:52.02 | Juido | @TC-Working: sure but there is no hint how to hide the name from the ui afaik |
| 00:52.24 | veronal | aah thx for the tip.. so it must be prat |
| 00:52.37 | veronal | btw, any other chat management addons you may list other than prat? |
| 00:52.43 | TC-Working | eh, i wouldnt know then, i am just here to mess around with people, not because i can help them, |
| 00:52.50 | TC-Working | s/them,/them/ |
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| 00:53.43 | TheZanke | H'okay, I am back... |
| 00:54.30 | Juido | let say i have a macro like this: #show Teleport: Shattrath /cast [button:1, modifier:alt] Teleport: Ironforge |
| 00:54.59 | Juido | then the macro icon show me the amount of Rune of Teleport left and the macro name |
| 00:55.14 | Kaso | You want to hide the name on the button? |
| 00:55.25 | Juido | both is overlay and hard to to read the amount of the runes |
| 00:55.28 | Juido | yes @ kaso |
| 00:55.36 | Kaso | just name the macro with spaces |
| 00:55.37 | Kaso | " " |
| 00:55.53 | Juido | the only way ? |
| 00:55.59 | Kaso | its the simplest way |
| 00:56.04 | TheZanke | . |
| 00:56.06 | TheZanke | lol* |
| 00:56.08 | Kaso | without installing an addon i think yes only way |
| 00:56.11 | Kaydeethree | other ways include using bar mods that can disable macro text |
| 00:56.33 | Juido | ic |
| 00:56.44 | TC-Working | ckknight, do you have pics of pitbull posted around? |
| 00:56.54 | Kaso | alot of my macros are named with varying numbers of spaces |
| 00:57.00 | ckknight | check the wowace forum |
| 00:57.17 | Kaydeethree | meh, I've just got macrotext turned off in bongos. whatever works for you |
| 00:57.54 | TC-Working | ckknight.... |
| 00:57.59 | ckknight | what? |
| 00:58.08 | TC-Working | "Note: do not ask me for screenshots." |
| 00:58.16 | Juido | im using ct_barmod for a while |
| 00:58.36 | ckknight | yea, other people have posted screenshots |
| 01:02.03 | TC-Working | ok, home time for me, laters all |
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| 01:07.30 | Juido | 3am, bedtime... cu and gn8 all, thx for help |
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| 01:13.42 | Lunessa | ckknight: Do recent revisions of PitBull allow grouping of party and partypet frame (like the default ui) or should a user just use clever spacing to make it appear so? |
| 01:13.56 | ckknight | clever spacing |
| 01:14.00 | Lunessa | thanks |
| 01:14.21 | ckknight | don't expect the grouping to come, Blizzard fucked us too far up the ass to allow something like that |
| 01:14.46 | Lunessa | :nod: I can dream though, right? :D |
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| 01:15.17 | ckknight | I suppose I can't stop you |
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| 01:20.12 | Lunessa | I love your layout mode feature. hands down the most useful thing to come along in a long time. |
| 01:23.36 | cladhaire | its been around for a long long time. |
| 01:24.37 | Lunessa | Discord had something like it. |
| 01:25.02 | ckknight | yea, the configMode was a great addition, I must say |
| 01:25.08 | Lunessa | But most other UF addons didn't. Not trying to belittle anything, just really like the featuree. |
| 01:25.14 | Lunessa | feature. |
| 01:25.38 | Kaso | this topic sounds interesting, could you quickly explain to me a non-user what this feature is? |
| 01:26.06 | Lunessa | it puts up virtual frames so you can lay out your unit frames to the positions you desire. |
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| 01:26.30 | Cide | so what discord did |
| 01:26.39 | Kaso | i understand |
| 01:27.22 | Lunessa | I tried several UF addons. I liked Discord's flexibility, but it was a pain to learn. |
| 01:27.53 | Lunessa | Though right now I am using the default ones, I liked that feature a lot in PitBull. |
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| 01:29.41 | ckknight | yea, totally stole the idea from Discord, though |
| 01:29.47 | ckknight | not that that's necessarily a bad thing |
| 01:29.52 | Kaso | Random question which i really should search myself but im lazy... |
| 01:30.17 | Kaso | Are there any Action Bars mods around that allow isolated single buttons like discord's floaters? |
| 01:30.25 | Lunessa | Bongos. |
| 01:30.32 | Lunessa | Cog'sBar |
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| 01:34.09 | Lunessa | Ok, I'm out. G'night everyone. |
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| 01:35.48 | Kaso | am i sad for reading that as _G.night |
| 01:36.53 | DT__ | Can anyone help me out with a quick addon question? Basically what I want to do is delay the showing of a whisper, so I've hooked ChatFrame_MessageEventHandler and stopped it from showing up, but when I call the original function it'll always error because arg1-argn aren't set. How would I go about fixing it? |
| 01:38.07 | MentalPower|Work | set arg1-argn... |
| 01:38.19 | Kaso | ^indeed, it is fairly obveous. |
| 01:38.47 | DT__ | That's what I thought but I was a bit confused since it seemed so ... "not the right way" to me |
| 01:39.11 | DT__ | Creating all those extra globals |
| 01:39.14 | MentalPower|Work | its not, but blizzard has not changed their code to not use the global vars |
| 01:39.36 | Kaso | http://pastey.net/56840 |
| 01:40.01 | Kaso | Thats the code i use for simulating artificial CHAT_MSG events |
| 01:40.26 | DT__ | What's JSpam? |
| 01:40.49 | Kaso | My personal Anti-Spam addon i used pre 2.1 |
| 01:41.00 | sylvanaar | you need more than arg10 |
| 01:41.26 | Kaso | oh? i thought arg10 was as high as chatframe went. |
| 01:41.49 | sylvanaar | i think it goes to arg13 |
| 01:42.03 | Kaso | ah, well i dont use the addon anymore so its not an issue |
| 01:42.12 | Kaso | 2.1 has fixed all my spam problems. all is good |
| 01:42.31 | Kaydeethree | think it's fixed all of our spam problems, thank the gods |
| 01:42.39 | Kaydeethree | I've gotten *2* since 2.1 dropped |
| 01:44.27 | Kaso | Bonus lol if you change arg6 to "GM" DT__ :> |
| 01:45.49 | DT__ | lol |
| 01:46.56 | DT__ | Looks like I only need args 1, 2, 3, and 6 for CHAT_MSG_WHISPER but I looked through the rest of the chat events and couldn't find any with more than 9 |
| 01:47.15 | Kaso | i know 10 is used for cross faction CHAT_MSG |
| 01:47.26 | Kaso | just pass as many as you can, better safe than sorry |
| 01:48.38 | sylvanaar | arg11 is the line number that's part of the playerlink |
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| 01:50.29 | DT___ | Comp crashed >.> If anyone can kick the other DT, feel free |
| 01:51.25 | Kaso | Kaydeethree, dont you hate people who ask questions then hang around like 0.2sec for an answer then leave >.< |
| 01:51.40 | Kaydeethree | ya |
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| 01:51.59 | DT_ | I didn't leave on purpose >.> |
| 01:52.07 | Thunder_Child | really? i like them, keeps me from having to help them |
| 01:52.17 | Kaso | Wasnt refering to you DT_ dont worry :> |
| 01:52.24 | DT_ | kk ;) |
| 01:52.24 | Thunder_Child | but then we all know i'm an asshole |
| 01:52.24 | Kaso | lol Thunder_Child :> |
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| 01:55.27 | bleeter | Kaydeethree: hmm, have you noticed at all, getting stuck in an infinite loop either on logout or trying to switch toons, a 'fixme' error like http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=8202 |
| 01:55.42 | bleeter | tho, I might've already mentioned that |
| 01:55.48 | Kaydeethree | nah. I've been getting nailed with a bunch of crit errors, though |
| 01:55.53 | Kaydeethree | trying to figure out what addon's causing it |
| 01:56.46 | bleeter | couple of times I've been just standing around doing nothing, and thrown out of the game completely. Until about 4 hours ago, wasn't running from a terminal, so no idea what/why/when etc. |
| 01:59.50 | Thunder_Child | morning shirik |
| 01:59.59 | Shirik | well it's 10pm but morning :) |
| 02:00.23 | Thunder_Child | 7pm for me...guess you were just naping then |
| 02:02.06 | Shirik | no definitely sleeping |
| 02:02.17 | Shirik | unless you can consider a 9h na |
| 02:02.18 | Shirik | nap |
| 02:11.21 | Thunder_Child | night person huh...thats so me after i stop working |
| 02:13.10 | bleeter | cladhaire: hah, I think I 'fixed' it (at least on one of my toons, fighting atm can't test other toons; and it doesn't explain why I got the error with all but lightheaded loaded) -> Fizzwidgets 'Levelator' mod |
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| 02:13.48 | bleeter | which I should really have thrown away by now, as it's horridly out of date and doesn't play well with doublewide |
| 02:13.56 | bleeter | *doesn't seem to play.. |
| 02:17.33 | Thunder_Child | hmm..prat needs tab completion |
| 02:17.45 | Thunder_Child | nvm, dose |
| 02:17.48 | Thunder_Child | does* |
| 02:19.52 | Kemayo | mikma: You were looking for me? |
| 02:20.04 | mikma | Kemayo: dunno |
| 02:21.21 | mikma | did i say something? i can't remember |
| 02:23.09 | Kemayo | Oh, it was days ago. Darn last-highlighted keystrokes. |
| 02:25.12 | mikma | Kemayo: why is there a lagspike when i complete a quest and hear the sound? |
| 02:25.25 | mikma | my game freezes for 1sec and then continues |
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| 02:35.36 | Kemayo | mikma: That I do not know. I haven't noticed it myself... I'll try to pay attention next time. |
| 02:38.14 | Thunder_Child | is there a command line way to bring of the info you would normaly see on the BG button...since i seem to have lost mine |
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| 02:48.43 | ckknight | how can f:IsVisible() == nil when f:IsShown() == 1 and f:GetParent():IsVisible() == 1? |
| 02:49.12 | Cide | function f:IsVisible() return nil; end |
| 02:49.35 | Cide | function f:GetParent():IsVisible() return 1; end |
| 02:49.46 | Cide | take your pick! |
| 02:49.52 | Shirik | ;p; |
| 02:49.52 | Shirik | lol |
| 02:50.09 | Shirik | except |
| 02:50.18 | Shirik | function f:GetParent():IsVisible() |
| 02:50.20 | Shirik | can you do that? |
| 02:50.36 | Shirik | I guess so, it's syntactic sugar for f:GetParent().IsVisible = function(self) ... |
| 02:50.50 | Cide | heh, no, apparently not |
| 02:51.54 | Cide | function (f:GetParent()).IsVisible(self) return 1; end |
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| 02:53.43 | Iriel | ckknight: I wonder if that's one of those wierd transient things we've been seeing that fixes itself OnUpdate |
| 02:53.54 | ckknight | Iriel: nope |
| 02:53.56 | ckknight | I figured it out |
| 02:54.08 | ckknight | basically, I :SetParent'd |
| 02:54.21 | ckknight | and if I do :Show(), then :IsVisible() == 1, even though :IsShown() == 1 before |
| 02:54.29 | ckknight | the previous parent's :IsVisible() == nil |
| 02:54.30 | ckknight | it didn't update |
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| 02:56.57 | Gorbulas | hello |
| 02:57.05 | |Jelly| | hi |
| 02:57.29 | Iriel | ckknight: Hm, when are you checking? A reparent hides the frame, reparents it, then (if it was originally shown) re-shows it at the new parent |
| 02:57.34 | Gorbulas | I'm running Karazhan, and I've been having trouble receiving summons and resurrections all night |
| 02:57.45 | Iriel | ckknight: That can confuse some code if you happen to hide other things OnHide |
| 02:57.55 | ckknight | nope |
| 02:58.01 | ckknight | OnHide = nil |
| 02:58.17 | Gorbulas | can this be caused by addons? |
| 02:59.04 | Gorbulas | if so, how? |
| 02:59.08 | Iriel | Gorbulas: it's unlikely, though in theory an AddOn could hide the popups |
| 02:59.29 | Gorbulas | I have too many addons to start trial and error on a problem that happens sometimes |
| 02:59.42 | |Jelly| | "too many addons" rofl |
| 03:00.06 | Gorbulas | I have xperl and ctmod and dbm and klhtm for raiding |
| 03:00.35 | ckknight | Gorbulas: it should only take you math.ceil(math.log(num_addons)/math.log(2)) iterations. |
| 03:00.43 | bleeter | aka 'not enough friends prepared to sit down for half an hour or so to help me track this down'? |
| 03:00.52 | Gorbulas | that too |
| 03:01.02 | |Jelly| | bleeter: too lazy |
| 03:01.11 | Gorbulas | more than half an hour |
| 03:02.14 | Gorbulas | I've been having other trouble with WoW that's couldn't have been caused by addons today |
| 03:04.11 | Gorbulas | I don't even get a tick noise like a resurrection box popped up |
| 03:04.51 | bleeter | at a guess, you might be able to use devtools to see what events are incoming, etc., but I've never used that mod that much so don't really know |
| 03:04.55 | Gorbulas | if anything it's a taint issue, but I don't know what could taint stuff such that WoW wouldn't let me ressurect |
| 03:05.06 | bleeter | but if it'd do that, it might show an inbound event... dunno |
| 03:05.16 | Iriel | I doubt it's a taint issue |
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| 03:07.27 | Gorbulas | seems like an intermittent problem, and if I ask a GM or anything I'll be told to disable addons(which I can't do during a raid) and try again |
| 03:08.44 | bleeter | maybe your guild/party are just messing with you when they say they're summoning/rezzing you.. ahve you annoyed them recently? |
| 03:09.03 | TheZanke | where'd kaso go? |
| 03:10.30 | Gorbulas | no I hadn't released and I saw the ressurection effect on my corpse |
| 03:12.22 | Dreadlorde | hi |
| 03:13.11 | Tivoli | Why o why is Spirit of Redemption a stance? =\ |
| 03:14.13 | Cide | why is that a problem? |
| 03:14.38 | Tivoli | because to setup bars using a stance, you have to kill yourself, but then you are still in combat so you can't set them up |
| 03:15.12 | Cide | can't you simulate that ooc? |
| 03:15.16 | Tivoli | so if you have a button that uses stance:0 and stance:1 when you SOR you change to stance:1 |
| 03:15.32 | Cide | SetAttribute("stance", 1) ? |
| 03:16.07 | Tivoli | yeah, but if you have bars setup for like shadowform, which is stance:1 also it's gets to be very tedious |
| 03:16.20 | Tivoli | since you have to reset them up if you respec back and forth |
| 03:16.22 | Cide | eh, that sounds easier than dying to me :) |
| 03:16.27 | |Jelly| | If you have both shadow form and sor, all I can say is "WTF" <3 |
| 03:16.43 | Tivoli | respec for pvp and pve ^^ |
| 03:16.58 | Tivoli | it just doesn't make sense to be a stance anyway |
| 03:21.25 | N00bZXI | Tivoli: Why not set your bars to not change with stances while specced for Spirit of Redemption? |
| 03:23.16 | Tivoli | yeah, i just remove the stance state, but from a users standpoint it's something that's constantly coming up |
| 03:23.42 | Tivoli | because it's usually something that happens when they die and then they are like, oh i don't have spells anymore |
| 03:24.23 | N00bZXI | Additionally I have no clue how anyone is going to heal with the mainbar anyway |
| 03:24.24 | Tivoli | it still doesn't make sense as a stance since it's not something you actively switch to, like all other stances |
| 03:24.49 | Tivoli | unless you like to suicide a lot ^^ |
| 03:24.54 | Cide | I can die pretty much on demand in arenas, so... :P |
| 03:25.04 | cladhaire | yay priest |
| 03:25.16 | N00bZXI | <-- priest |
| 03:26.36 | Tivoli | haha |
| 03:27.07 | Tivoli | actually does the default bar not change to stance:1 when you SOR? |
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| 03:27.25 | N00bZXI | Not sure since I play shadow. |
| 03:28.24 | Tivoli | yeah, i'm thinking it only does for custom buttons, which is wierd |
| 03:28.30 | Tivoli | will test it out and find out |
| 03:29.03 | N00bZXI | To my knowledge shadowform also doesn't switch for default bars (99% unsure) |
| 03:29.15 | Shirik | <-- priest |
| 03:29.25 | |Jelly| | <- awesome |
| 03:30.12 | TPD | <-- newb |
| 03:31.44 | Tivoli | i thought shadowform did change on the default bars |
| 03:31.57 | Tivoli | it's been a very long time though since i have used defaults |
| 03:33.33 | Gorbulas | I am not receiving a RESURRECT_REQUEST event when people try to rez me |
| 03:33.52 | Gorbulas | is that possibly caused by an addon? |
| 03:34.27 | N00bZXI | I don't believe so. |
| 03:34.48 | cladhaire | res bugged |
| 03:34.52 | cladhaire | if you log, it should fix itself. |
| 03:35.15 | Gorbulas | but I did log and it didn't change |
| 03:35.36 | Recluse | any text replacement addons available? (regex prefered...) |
| 03:35.58 | Gorbulas | do you think I can accept a res I can't see? |
| 03:36.12 | Gorbulas | like have a slash command that tries to accept |
| 03:36.17 | N00bZXI | If your client never recieves it probably not |
| 03:36.22 | cladhaire | Recluse: ... what do ou mean? |
| 03:36.25 | N00bZXI | And if no events are firing it's probably not |
| 03:36.34 | N00bZXI | Which is probably bugged or something |
| 03:36.34 | Shirik | Recluse: ? |
| 03:36.36 | N00bZXI | Because it should be |
| 03:36.37 | Shirik | string.gsub? |
| 03:38.03 | Recluse | Shirik, cladhaire: like i could tell it to check for the string "lf1m" in incoming message and replace it with whatever i choose "Need one for" for example. |
| 03:38.22 | cladhaire | Lua, pil.. string library |
| 03:38.24 | Shirik | It wouldn't be hard to make that addon but |
| 03:38.25 | cladhaire | don't need anything more than that. |
| 03:38.28 | Shirik | it's very possible to do |
| 03:38.34 | Kaydeethree | isn't there a mod that does that? some RP mod iirc |
| 03:38.34 | Shirik | but Id on't think it exists yet |
| 03:38.39 | N00bZXI | string.gsub("lf1m", "lf(%d)m", "looking for %1 more") |
| 03:38.39 | Shirik | maybe |
| 03:38.41 | Shirik | I never heard of it |
| 03:38.48 | cladhaire | lua> string.gsub("lf1m", "lf(%d)m", "looking for %1 mo |
| 03:38.48 | cladhaire | cladhaire:lua> Compilation failed: [string " string.gsub("lf1m", "lf(%d)m", "looking for %1 mo"]:1: unfinished string near '' |
| 03:38.49 | Recluse | I've found two that do it but they're not updated since like 1.9 lol |
| 03:38.55 | cladhaire | N00bZXI: way to syntax error |
| 03:38.56 | Shirik | cladhaire fails :P |
| 03:39.01 | cladhaire | Shirik: wasn't my code. |
| 03:39.02 | cladhaire | nb |
| 03:39.04 | Shirik | uh |
| 03:39.08 | Shirik | 23:39:08 ‹N00bZXI› string.gsub("lf1m", "lf(%d)m", "looking for %1 more") |
| 03:39.08 | Shirik | 23:39:10 ‹Shirik› I never heard of it |
| 03:39.09 | Shirik | 23:39:17 ‹@cladhaire› lua> string.gsub("lf1m", "lf(%d)m", "looking for %1 mo |
| 03:39.12 | Shirik | looks like your fault to me |
| 03:39.18 | cladhaire | look like i dont care! |
| 03:39.21 | Shirik | :D |
| 03:39.24 | cladhaire | lua> string.gsub("lf1m", "lf(%d)m", "looking for %1 more") |
| 03:39.25 | cladhaire | cladhaire:lua> looking for 1 more, 1, |
| 03:39.26 | Shirik | lua> string.gsub("lf1m", "lf(%d)m", "looking for %1 more") |
| 03:39.26 | cladhaire | Shirik:lua> looking for 1 more, 1, |
| 03:39.29 | Shirik | ;) |
| 03:39.30 | cladhaire | vagina face |
| 03:39.31 | Recluse | lol |
| 03:40.29 | Recluse | example: http://wow-en.curse-gaming.com/downloads/details/99/ |
| 03:42.14 | N00bZXI | cladhaire: way to not copy&paste completely - you missed 're")' |
| 03:42.27 | cladhaire | wow |
| 03:42.30 | cladhaire | welcome to 10 minutes ago =) |
| 03:43.01 | Tivoli | TAKE THE BLAME!!! |
| 03:43.12 | *** kick/#wowi-lounge [Tivoli!n=cladhair@WoWUIDev/WoWI/Featured/Dongle/cladhaire] by cladhaire (no) |
| 03:43.18 | N00bZXI | :O |
| 03:43.21 | |Jelly| | ownt |
| 03:44.29 | N00bZXI | cladhaire: 3mins, not 10 |
| 03:44.40 | cladhaire | i broke tivoli |
| 03:45.14 | Shirik | 12[whois: Tivoli12] |
| 03:45.14 | Shirik | › idle: 1m 52s, signon: 02:49:28 - 13/06/2007 2‹20h 55m 55s ago2› |
| 03:45.24 | Shirik | he went afk crying |
| 03:45.26 | Shirik | when you kicked him |
| 03:45.27 | cladhaire | lol |
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| 03:45.32 | Shirik | you're mean |
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| 03:45.55 | Shirik | wb! |
| 03:46.00 | N|Tivoli | wow |
| 03:46.09 | Recluse | lol |
| 03:46.22 | cladhaire | hehe |
| 03:47.19 | N|Tivoli | WTS Scroll of the Sun!! |
| 03:47.30 | Shirik | cladhaire: You'll be pleased to know I'm almost done with the interpreter :) |
| 03:47.35 | cladhaire | ya |
| 03:47.35 | cladhaire | hurrt |
| 03:47.37 | cladhaire | =) |
| 03:47.38 | cladhaire | err |
| 03:47.39 | cladhaire | yay |
| 03:47.40 | cladhaire | hurry |
| 03:47.41 | N00bZXI | shirik: Interpreter? |
| 03:47.44 | Shirik | the basic layout is done just need to actually code in the keywords now |
| 03:47.51 | |Jelly| | Shirik: <3 |
| 03:47.55 | Shirik | the layout was a pita though |
| 03:48.04 | Shirik | the fact that you can't rely on semicolons and some keywords are more than one words |
| 03:48.10 | Shirik | and that some have arguments to the left and some to the right |
| 03:48.12 | Shirik | fricking pain |
| 03:48.19 | N00bZXI | shirik: Interpreter? |
| 03:48.30 | Shirik | secrets |
| 03:48.37 | N00bZXI | :( |
| 03:48.40 | Shirik | http://lolcode.com |
| 03:48.49 | Kaydeethree | uso... you're actually implementing one? |
| 03:48.51 | cladhaire | then we'll have a lol> bot |
| 03:48.53 | N00bZXI | ROFL |
| 03:48.58 | cladhaire | lua> print("lol ftw") |
| 03:49.00 | cladhaire | cladhaire:lua> lol ftw |
| 03:49.00 | Shirik | Kaydeethree ya :) |
| 03:49.02 | N00bZXI | that would be ownage |
| 03:49.07 | cladhaire | ask will shirik finish the interpreter? |
| 03:49.10 | cladhaire | 8-Ball says: "Hmmm, that's a tough question." |
| 03:49.12 | Shirik | :( |
| 03:49.16 | N00bZXI | Implementing in lua? |
| 03:49.20 | Shirik | nah |
| 03:49.21 | Shirik | C |
| 03:49.22 | Shirik | well C++ |
| 03:49.25 | Shirik | with printf() instead of cout |
| 03:49.29 | Shirik | I started in C and then switched :P |
| 03:49.34 | Shirik | because I wanted throw |
| 03:49.58 | N00bZXI | I think it'd be possible to write one in lua.. using string.find/runscript |
| 03:50.08 | cladhaire | of course it would be |
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| 03:50.14 | cladhaire | i just couldn't find the spec :P |
| 03:50.17 | Shirik | Lua is a turing-complete language |
| 03:50.25 | Shirik | it has to be possible |
| 03:50.26 | N00bZXI | scring.find(s, "I HAS A %w+") |
| 03:50.28 | N00bZXI | and such |
| 03:50.34 | N00bZXI | scring.find(s, "^I HAS A %w+") actually |
| 03:50.39 | Shirik | it's definitely harder in C |
| 03:50.44 | Shirik | dealing with actual memory allocation, etc |
| 03:50.45 | N00bZXI | Assuming %w is the pattern for word |
| 03:50.46 | Shirik | but possible :) |
| 03:51.01 | cladhaire | night all |
| 03:51.04 | Shirik | night |
| 03:51.26 | N|Tivoli | wth is a scring! |
| 03:52.00 | N00bZXI | a typo |
| 03:52.04 | N|Tivoli | i know ^^ |
| 03:52.54 | N|Tivoli | yes %w is word |
| 03:52.55 | N00bZXI | Most of the time I spend fixing bugs in my own code |
| 03:52.59 | N00bZXI | Is spent fixing dumb typos |
| 04:00.33 | bleeter | clad|sleep: fwiw, turning off fizzwidget's levelator helped my high end toon wrt lightheaded, but i'm still failing with hogger |
| 04:00.51 | Recluse | lol |
| 04:05.33 | bleeter | clad|sleep: hmm, then maybe not... gotta go to uni soon, will test more later ;) |
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| 05:46.55 | TheZanke | what exactly are virtual frames? |
| 05:47.11 | DT_ | They're templates you inherit from |
| 05:47.27 | DT_ | It's like a blueprint for a frame, and you create a bunch of frames that use that blueprint |
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| 05:48.51 | TheZanke | like the $parent thing is used in coordination with a virtual frame? |
| 05:49.08 | TheZanke | if that makes sense to anyone but me... |
| 05:49.12 | DT_ | Nah |
| 05:49.52 | DT_ | If you have a frame named FrameA and in the <Frames> tag of that frame you have a frame with <Frame name="$parentOtherFrame"> then the name of the child frame will be FrameAOtherFrame |
| 05:49.53 | TheZanke | say i want a frame with 3 buttons and 2 lines of text... |
| 05:50.03 | DT_ | $parent just gets replaced by the name of the parent frame |
| 05:53.17 | DT_ | So if you want to create 3 buttons, then your 3 buttons will probably have a lot of similarities ... mainly how they look, so what you do is create a virtual frame which defines all the aspects of the buttons which are similar, and then create 3 buttons which inherit from that virtual button. In the 3 buttons you create, you define the per-button settings, things like the location of the button, the text of the button, etc |
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| 06:00.35 | |Jelly| | I feel a new UI in the making. |
| 06:01.36 | TheZanke | lol |
| 06:01.50 | TheZanke | lua was easy but xml is retrded...imo |
| 06:02.33 | TheZanke | s/retrded/retarded |
| 06:02.38 | TheZanke | why doesnt that work ffor me |
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| 06:11.08 | TheZanke | is there a simple addon i can read over and actually play with i learn better that way then reading the tuts like fara's frames |
| 06:11.18 | |Jelly| | all of them, really |
| 06:11.24 | |Jelly| | just look for an addon that does one thing |
| 06:11.27 | |Jelly| | then rip it apart |
| 06:11.30 | |Jelly| | and go from there |
| 06:11.45 | TheZanke | well all of the addons i really* use are like 10 lua files deep and have custom graphics and stuff |
| 06:11.47 | krka | take something small |
| 06:11.53 | |Jelly| | LUA |
| 06:11.53 | krka | |Jelly|: Lua is not an acronym. |
| 06:13.18 | TheZanke | trying to find one.. |
| 06:16.49 | TheZanke | well i guess the frame id like it to be most like would be monkeyquest |
| 06:17.05 | TheZanke | about the same size as MQ showing 3 quests |
| 06:23.25 | TheZanke | where do i view all the different backgrounds and texts and stuff that i can use? |
| 06:23.31 | TheZanke | or is that possible? |
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| 06:23.55 | |Jelly| | It's possible. There's a program that does it; I just don't remember the name off the top of my head. |
| 06:25.29 | Cairenn|afk | WoWBench http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info5095-WoWBench.html or WoWUIDesigner http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info4222-WoWUIDesigner.html ? |
| 06:25.50 | Cairenn|afk | were either of those the one you were thinking of |Jelly|? |
| 06:26.23 | |Jelly| | Names don't ring a bell. |
| 06:26.25 | |Jelly| | : / |
| 06:26.32 | |Jelly| | I have the second one downloaded and it's not it. |
| 06:26.47 | |Jelly| | Unless it can look in the MPQs and see the textures. (I really haven't played with it) |
| 06:27.19 | Cairenn|afk | ~wowapi |
| 06:27.20 | purl | (.*?) http://www.wowwiki.com/API_$1 |
| 06:27.25 | Cairenn|afk | grrrr |
| 06:27.31 | Cairenn|afk | why can I never remember that? |
| 06:27.34 | TheZanke | wowmodelviewer? |
| 06:27.34 | Cairenn|afk | ~api |
| 06:27.39 | TheZanke | does it do that? |
| 06:27.44 | |Jelly| | Yeah. That's it. |
| 06:27.49 | TheZanke | orly? |
| 06:27.50 | DT_ | You can look in the MPQ's but all the textures are in *.blp format Jelly |
| 06:27.52 | TheZanke | hmm |
| 06:27.56 | |Jelly| | JUST MAKE SURE TO GET IT FROM A REPUTABLE SOURCE. |
| 06:28.07 | |Jelly| | DT: I know, I have a converter. |
| 06:28.21 | |Jelly| | ...and don't use the stock textures hardly ever |
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| 06:28.47 | TheZanke | am i going to have to get my photoshop cd for this? |
| 06:28.50 | TheZanke | its at work.. |
| 06:29.17 | |Jelly| | You need a blp converter |
| 06:30.45 | Cairenn|afk | http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info6127-BLP2PNG.html |
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| 06:32.29 | bleeter | " I've got to say, hiding next to Mankrik's wife after a bank robbery is about the single most intelligent idea I've ever seen." |
| 06:33.40 | bleeter | (from the near legendary, new 'super engineer adventures' thread -> http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=109931130&sid=1 ) |
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| 06:45.33 | Corrodias | intergalactic planetary planetary intergalactic |
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| 07:07.18 | Corrodias | tonight, we try gruul's lair for the first time "for real" |
| 07:07.57 | Corrodias | last time, we just grabbed the first 25 people we could get to show up, not even necessarily level 70, just to have some fun and see what it's like inside. the trash was challenging, but fun, and the first boss wiped his ass with us. |
| 07:08.06 | Corrodias | now, we shall see what we can do. |
| 07:10.21 | Corrodias | and by now i mean tonight |
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| 08:41.37 | Shirik | lua> math.pi |
| 08:41.37 | clad|sleep | Shirik:lua> 3.1415926535898 |
| 08:42.12 | Elkano | ^^ |
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| 09:59.46 | *** topic/#wowi-lounge is #wowi-lounge: Paste Code Here: http://wowi.pastey.net | 2.1 Toc: 20100 | RTFPN please | LOL MIN_WOWBLING R 20200 |
| 10:15.59 | Shirik | lolcode.exe has encountered a problem and needs to close. We are sorry for the inconvenience. |
| 10:16.00 | Shirik | :( |
| 10:17.02 | amro | windows has a funny way of saying segfault |
| 10:17.09 | Shirik | ua |
| 10:17.10 | Shirik | ya* |
| 10:17.14 | Shirik | in fact it's fricking annoying |
| 10:17.24 | amro | like it's talking to a 5 year old |
| 10:17.25 | Shirik | I have to click 3 buttons just to get the part that says 0xC0000005 |
| 10:17.35 | Shirik | and I have to remember all those codes too |
| 10:17.41 | Shirik | admittedly that's the only one I remember though >< |
| 10:17.48 | amro | why dont you run it in the debugger? |
| 10:18.11 | Shirik | cause I had command prompt already open and I could just hit up enter :P |
| 10:18.23 | Shirik | was being lazy :P |
| 10:18.37 | Shirik | plus if it had actual useful output, the window closes too fast |
| 10:18.59 | amro | yeah I hate that |
| 10:19.04 | amro | gdb ftw =) |
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| 10:31.03 | sag_ich_nicht | soo |
| 10:31.04 | sag_ich_nicht | Shirik |
| 10:31.08 | sag_ich_nicht | it appears that you have slept |
| 10:31.33 | Shirik | not really |
| 10:31.45 | sag_ich_nicht | ...well that's bad |
| 10:32.25 | sag_ich_nicht | because i was going to ask if you'd be willing to help me now(where now=later, when i get home from work) with that stupid GEM display issue ;P (if i wait for an author response, it will take forever and lead to nothing ><) |
| 10:32.52 | Shirik | I can but it'd have to be after my class |
| 10:33.11 | Shirik | woot! it works! |
| 10:33.12 | Shirik | Well sorta |
| 10:33.33 | Shirik | it doesn't know how to handle "CAN HAS" yet so the error message doesn't exactly make sense |
| 10:33.35 | Shirik | but it works! |
| 10:33.42 | zenzelezz | U CAN HAS 0xC0000005 WTF |
| 10:33.43 | sag_ich_nicht | when does your class end? (and tell your IRC client to stop ignoring CTCP requests, it's annoying) |
| 10:34.07 | Shirik | C:\lolcode\Debug>lolcode C:\lolcode\test.lol |
| 10:34.07 | Shirik | Unexpected "<eof>" near "STDIO?" |
| 10:34.20 | sag_ich_nicht | lol |
| 10:34.30 | zenzelezz | before or after? |
| 10:34.40 | Shirik | hopefully the eof is after |
| 10:34.50 | Shirik | considering if there were an eof before something that would be a bit of a problem |
| 10:34.55 | zenzelezz | I'm surprised every time I encounter a program that insists on a trialing new-line after the last line in a file |
| 10:35.15 | Shirik | hm, maybe I shouldn't enclose <eof> in quotes |
| 10:36.19 | sag_ich_nicht | zenzelezz go away. |
| 10:36.22 | sag_ich_nicht | no seriously |
| 10:36.32 | sag_ich_nicht | no EOF break=teh evul |
| 10:37.10 | Shirik | C:\lolcode\Debug>lolcode C:\lolcode\test.lol |
| 10:37.10 | Shirik | Unexpected <eof> near "STDIO?" |
| 10:37.12 | Shirik | I think that looks better |
| 10:37.20 | zenzelezz | agreed |
| 10:39.17 | Shirik | wb cladhaire |
| 10:39.23 | Shirik | s/wb/morning/ |
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| 10:44.10 | cladhaire | morning |
| 10:44.25 | JoshBorke | morning claddy waddy |
| 10:55.56 | cladhaire | morn |
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| 11:33.27 | sag_ich_nicht | lol |
| 11:33.34 | sag_ich_nicht | the thread is still getting bumped Shirik |
| 11:33.44 | sag_ich_nicht | i think you're never going to get rid of it |
| 11:35.27 | sag_ich_nicht | btw., Shirik, the timers for the wolf appear to be off from time to time, same for the maiden :O |
| 11:36.07 | sag_ich_nicht | (and the event detection doesn't work properly for the wolf) |
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| 11:36.45 | sag_ich_nicht | ... |
| 11:36.50 | sag_ich_nicht | okay so that was pointless |
| 11:37.06 | Shirik | hrm |
| 11:37.08 | Shirik | 9906ms lag |
| 11:37.10 | Shirik | awesome |
| 11:37.13 | sag_ich_nicht | nice |
| 11:37.22 | sag_ich_nicht | what was the last thing you saw on irc |
| 11:37.30 | Shirik | 072:362:55 * Disconnected |
| 11:37.40 | sag_ich_nicht | okay |
| 11:37.42 | sag_ich_nicht | the thing before that |
| 11:37.46 | sag_ich_nicht | or clocks might be off |
| 11:37.47 | sag_ich_nicht | etc |
| 11:37.50 | sag_ich_nicht | *our |
| 11:38.02 | Shirik | 072:342:03 12‹8sag_ich_nicht12› the thread is still getting bumped Shirik |
| 11:38.12 | sag_ich_nicht | [13:33] <sag_ich_nicht> i think you're never going to get rid of it |
| 11:38.12 | sag_ich_nicht | [13:35] <sag_ich_nicht> btw., Shirik, the timers for the wolf appear to be off from time to time, same for the maiden :O |
| 11:38.12 | sag_ich_nicht | [13:36] <sag_ich_nicht> (and the event detection doesn't work properly for the wolf) |
| 11:38.28 | Shirik | oh, I've never really tested wolf |
| 11:38.33 | Shirik | and maiden can't be accurate |
| 11:38.37 | Shirik | she does her repentance at random intervals |
| 11:38.51 | Shirik | the best I can do is indicate the earliest the next repentance may occur |
| 11:39.00 | sag_ich_nicht | heh :O |
| 11:39.11 | sag_ich_nicht | we had the wolf bug on us last week |
| 11:39.18 | Shirik | what happened? |
| 11:39.18 | sag_ich_nicht | wiped 13 times because of that >.> |
| 11:39.20 | sag_ich_nicht | well |
| 11:39.25 | sag_ich_nicht | it seems the server lagged |
| 11:39.51 | bleeter | Shirik: I'm rather fond of Pidgin's 'chronic crash' segfault message... much better than any boring DOS foo you'll ever see |
| 11:39.54 | sag_ich_nicht | i.e. was happened was that our ping was okay, but sometimes we had people 10-15 meters away from the wolf take damage |
| 11:40.03 | Shirik | chronic crash? |
| 11:40.21 | sag_ich_nicht | and other times we had them bascially more or less inside the wolf and take no damage at all |
| 11:40.29 | bleeter | the string that doesn't get translated, in case translations are failing too |
| 11:40.39 | bleeter | "Hi, user. We need to talk." |
| 11:40.39 | bleeter | "I think something's gone wrong here. It's probably my fault." |
| 11:40.39 | bleeter | "No, really, it's not you... it's me... no no no, I think we get along well" |
| 11:40.42 | bleeter | "it's just that.... well, I want to see other people. I... what?!? NO! I" |
| 11:40.46 | bleeter | "haven't been cheating on you!! How many times do you want me to tell you?! And" |
| 11:40.49 | bleeter | "for the last time, it's just a rash!" |
| 11:41.18 | sag_ich_nicht | lol |
| 11:41.27 | Shirik | rofl |
| 11:41.43 | bleeter | it's in gtkmain.c, about two pages after the /* FUCKING GET ME A TOWEL! */ |
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| 11:41.55 | Shirik | lol |
| 11:42.03 | Josh_Borke | morning |
| 11:42.09 | bleeter | where the main loop is defined |
| 11:42.48 | Shirik | C:\lolcode\Debug>lolcode C:\lolcode\test.lol |
| 11:42.48 | Shirik | Syntax error near "STDIO?" |
| 11:42.49 | Shirik | grr |
| 11:42.50 | Shirik | why! |
| 11:43.09 | bleeter | NEED MOAR RAMZ |
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| 11:45.05 | sag_ich_nicht | Shirik |
| 11:45.07 | sag_ich_nicht | giev pastey |
| 11:47.40 | Shirik | you really want to see it |
| 11:47.42 | Shirik | it's ugly atm |
| 11:48.54 | Shirik | huh |
| 11:48.59 | Shirik | syntax highlighting is broke on pastey for C++ :( |
| 11:49.00 | Shirik | http://wowi.pastey.net/56854?lang=cpp |
| 11:50.31 | sag_ich_nicht | that's ugly |
| 11:50.39 | Shirik | told ya |
| 11:50.47 | sag_ich_nicht | and i hate that bracket style D: |
| 11:50.54 | Shirik | ? |
| 11:50.56 | Shirik | what would you rather? |
| 11:51.03 | Shirik | K&C? |
| 11:51.11 | krka | Shirik: how about writing a bnf grammar for it and generate an abstract syntax tree? |
| 11:51.18 | krka | and from there, generate lua source? :) |
| 11:51.20 | sag_ich_nicht | eh |
| 11:51.21 | sag_ich_nicht | typo |
| 11:51.22 | Shirik | I thought about that |
| 11:51.25 | sag_ich_nicht | *K&R |
| 11:51.37 | Shirik | but I wanted it to be standalone :P |
| 11:51.51 | sag_ich_nicht | how the hell did i typo K&R to K&C? |
| 11:52.01 | bleeter | skill and dexterity? |
| 11:52.01 | Shirik | ok let's continue along that line |
| 11:52.04 | Shirik | what's K&R |
| 11:52.12 | bleeter | subconcious prolly thinking of chickens |
| 11:52.14 | sag_ich_nicht | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_C_Programming_Language |
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| 11:52.24 | bleeter | Shirik: it's only the Bible of C |
| 11:52.29 | Shirik | oh right |
| 11:52.30 | bleeter | not that important at all =) |
| 11:52.33 | Shirik | yaya |
| 11:52.37 | sag_ich_nicht | it's why you can't find the error |
| 11:52.46 | sag_ich_nicht | you never learned the bloody language in the first place |
| 11:52.55 | Shirik | bleeter's told me to get it |
| 11:52.57 | Shirik | but meh |
| 11:53.01 | Shirik | besides, I'm not coding in C |
| 11:53.06 | sag_ich_nicht | it doesn't matter |
| 11:53.06 | Shirik | albeit they are similar |
| 11:53.07 | sag_ich_nicht | get it |
| 11:53.08 | Shirik | C++ is not C |
| 11:53.11 | sag_ich_nicht | and re-learn the language |
| 11:53.25 | Shirik | I know how the language works, and to be perfectly honest |
| 11:53.32 | Shirik | if that book told me to use a bracket style of |
| 11:53.38 | Shirik | type function(...) { |
| 11:53.38 | Shirik | } |
| 11:53.43 | Shirik | I still wouldn't do it |
| 11:53.47 | sag_ich_nicht | it doesn't tell you |
| 11:53.49 | Shirik | the brackets not lining up annoys me |
| 11:53.56 | sag_ich_nicht | the examples are written in that way :P |
| 11:54.03 | Shirik | that doesn't change what you were saying |
| 11:54.17 | Shirik | which is that it's ugly merely because the brackets do not follow what they supplied in the examples |
| 11:55.06 | bleeter | which is practically , for all intents and purposes, the default coding style for the vast majority of coders out there so if one codes differently one will always get 'ugh that's ugly' ;) |
| 11:55.25 | Shirik | I've seen it in a million places the way I've written it right there |
| 11:55.40 | bleeter | when in reality one should code how one's happy, unless one's coding for a pre-existing project |
| 11:55.40 | Shirik | which is where I picked it up from in the first place |
| 11:55.56 | bleeter | unless yer given the job to fix up the gawd-awful style in this POS source ;) |
| 11:56.16 | bleeter | speaking generically, that is hehe |
| 11:56.21 | Shirik | If I'm trying to figure out what brackets line up to what, when I know they aren't lined up right |
| 11:56.24 | Shirik | think about it, what's easier |
| 11:56.30 | Shirik | follow the column up until you find the bracket? |
| 11:56.44 | Shirik | or look up until you see some incorrectly tabulated text, hope it's tabulated correctly, follow to the right looking for the bracket |
| 11:56.57 | sag_ich_nicht | i like having the closing bracket under the function it belongs to, not the opening bracket |
| 11:57.10 | Shirik | uh |
| 11:57.12 | Shirik | if it wasn't |
| 11:57.14 | Shirik | where would it be? |
| 11:57.19 | Shirik | the entire function on one line? |
| 11:57.26 | sag_ich_nicht | it's below the opening bracket |
| 11:57.30 | bleeter | look at a close bracket, look up to see what function name is aligned to it. If the function doesn't have an opening bracket, I'm sure the compiler will bitch at me |
| 11:57.32 | sag_ich_nicht | which is on it's own line |
| 11:57.52 | sag_ich_nicht | and if you still aren't using a editor with bracket highlighting |
| 11:57.56 | Shirik | in any case, the argument is pointless. You're not going to change the way I wrote it |
| 11:57.58 | sag_ich_nicht | then i feel sorry for you :O |
| 11:57.58 | Shirik | that doesn't change a thing |
| 11:58.02 | sag_ich_nicht | yeah |
| 11:58.03 | Shirik | (1) I am |
| 11:58.11 | sag_ich_nicht | i figured :P |
| 11:58.14 | Shirik | but (2) the whole point is if they're not lined up correctly |
| 11:58.16 | bleeter | the code still doesn't work, so it's fairly immaterial atm :P |
| 11:58.18 | Shirik | then all it's going to tell you |
| 11:58.20 | sag_ich_nicht | yeah |
| 11:58.28 | Shirik | it that it's not lined up correctly |
| 11:58.31 | Shirik | not where it should be |
| 11:58.43 | Shirik | bleeter: Actually the code's working fine, found out it's merely because I haven't implemented that |
| 11:59.05 | bleeter | anyways, if you want it truly standalone crossplatform, you may have to consider glib |
| 11:59.49 | sag_ich_nicht | btw. |
| 11:59.51 | sag_ich_nicht | shirik |
| 11:59.52 | bleeter | or.. QT rofl |
| 11:59.56 | sag_ich_nicht | i am suprised |
| 12:00.05 | sag_ich_nicht | i didn't find a swearword in these comments yet :P |
| 12:00.11 | Shirik | ? |
| 12:00.25 | Shirik | I try to keep code professional, is that a problem too? |
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| 12:00.38 | bleeter | profession contains lots of cursing! |
| 12:00.42 | sag_ich_nicht | yes. |
| 12:00.51 | bleeter | look at the leaked windows source, as an eg |
| 12:01.01 | bleeter | 'fucking access bugs' or similar |
| 12:02.04 | zenzelezz | Mr. T pities the fools that feel a need to curse in their code |
| 12:02.37 | Shirik | I have no intention of using comments for anything more than their purpose |
| 12:02.57 | Shirik | which does not include relieving stress caused from stupid mistakes made earlier |
| 12:02.59 | zenzelezz | I use them to remind myself what the heck my code does |
| 12:03.09 | zenzelezz | and occasionally write a poem or love letter |
| 12:03.21 | zenzelezz | ;-o |
| 12:03.36 | Shirik | sag_ich_nicht: Would you rather I made no comments? |
| 12:03.38 | Shirik | I could do that too |
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| 12:12.48 | Shirik | bleeter: Explain why I would use QT >.> |
| 12:12.52 | Shirik | for a ... command line tool >.> |
| 12:13.25 | Shirik | concurrently I haven't done anything OS-specific therefore there should be no reason to use glib |
| 12:13.40 | Shirik | A compiler which doesn't properly handle new[] isn't a C++ compiler |
| 12:14.01 | bleeter | I thought there was file IO in lolcode |
| 12:14.21 | bleeter | dunno what your trying to do, anyways |
| 12:14.52 | ckknight | CAN HAS STDIO? |
| 12:16.25 | Shirik | bleeter: any C++ package should include ifstream/ofstream |
| 12:16.32 | Shirik | standard library |
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| 12:16.44 | Shirik | that's all I need |
| 12:16.48 | Wraanger | heyaz |
| 12:16.55 | Shirik | hi |
| 12:17.40 | Shirik | again, I say, C and C++ are not the same; though they are similar, you can't apply the same rules to both |
| 12:17.43 | Wraanger | Shirik, a question .... VFL is supposed to consume so much ? it was like 2.5Mb and like 15% CPU after 12 min in WSG |
| 12:17.57 | Shirik | that is because of a few things |
| 12:18.01 | cladhaire | zomg ace rdx imo |
| 12:18.05 | Shirik | first and for.. no |
| 12:18.32 | Shirik | first and foremost, whenever there is a RAID_ROSTER_UPDATE, RDX rebuilds the unit tables |
| 12:18.39 | Shirik | now because of this, a little garbage is generated |
| 12:18.53 | Shirik | in a battleground, that will "appear" to be a high memory usage, but in actuality it will just be cleaned up the next time the GC is run |
| 12:18.59 | cladhaire | use OAC instead of RRU |
| 12:19.07 | Shirik | eh I really don't know what it uses but |
| 12:19.17 | Shirik | whatever it is, it rebuilds the unit table ^^ |
| 12:19.43 | Shirik | as for 15% cpu |
| 12:19.46 | Shirik | that seems extremely high |
| 12:19.48 | Shirik | where did you get that number from |
| 12:19.56 | ckknight | cladhaire: did you see the freaky complicated commit I did to make PitBull efficient? |
| 12:20.05 | cladhaire | nope |
| 12:21.41 | Wraanger | 2Shirik ....from the PErformance_Fu tooltip ..with CPU profiling enabled |
| 12:22.13 | cladhaire | ewll, keep in mind that 15% of the cpu just means 15% of the cpu usage the script system is using |
| 12:22.27 | cladhaire | its not a task monitor.. its a unit of measure relative to the script system's CPU usage |
| 12:22.28 | ckknight | okay, well, say you have a situation where you have Alpha and Charlie, two guys. A third comes in, Bravo, in the middle. Now Alpha doesn't need to be updated, but Bravo and Charlie would be in most implementations. What I did is that all of Charlie's data (health bars, aura frames, etc.) is shifted down to the third position and Bravo is created in the second, creating a single update on a join. In the same light, when Bravo lea |
| 12:22.57 | ckknight | so what basically happened is that in AV, it went from a theoretical 40 updates to 0-1 updates |
| 12:22.58 | Shirik | In the same light, when Bravo lea |
| 12:23.07 | cladhaire | ckknight: thats all it should be |
| 12:23.10 | cladhaire | *shrug* |
| 12:23.11 | ckknight | Bravo leaves later, Charlie is shifted up and no update occurs, but it's all peachy |
| 12:23.27 | Shirik | I thought you couldn't move secure frames in combat? |
| 12:23.29 | ckknight | cladhaire: but if you just use OAC, it wouldn't work like that, since the header isn't intelligent |
| 12:23.35 | Shirik | or you're just deferring this until out of combat |
| 12:23.43 | ckknight | nope, Shirik, not with sneakiness |
| 12:23.44 | cladhaire | ckknight: you can make it intelligent |
| 12:23.52 | ckknight | cladhaire: how so? |
| 12:24.04 | cladhaire | using OAC |
| 12:24.06 | cladhaire | it reveals all |
| 12:24.09 | ckknight | you can make it so Alpha stays as "raid2" and doesn't turn into "raid3"? |
| 12:24.10 | Shirik | also what is this OAC? |
| 12:24.16 | ckknight | OnAttributeChanged |
| 12:24.18 | Shirik | ah |
| 12:24.18 | cladhaire | ckknight: ... you're faking mappings? |
| 12:24.18 | Shirik | ya |
| 12:24.22 | ckknight | cladhaire: nope. |
| 12:24.32 | cladhaire | dot dot dor |
| 12:24.34 | ckknight | cladhaire: I merely account for them intelligently |
| 12:24.38 | cladhaire | s/dor/dot/ |
| 12:24.46 | cladhaire | seems overly complex for no gain |
| 12:24.46 | cladhaire | 8shrug* |
| 12:24.49 | cladhaire | what do i know tho |
| 12:24.53 | Shirik | cladhaire: The reason we used RRU is because this is completely independent of frames |
| 12:24.54 | ckknight | OAC does only half of it |
| 12:24.59 | Shirik | this is just a table of units |
| 12:25.39 | bleeter | I'm still puzzled as to why astrolabe is to blame for the problems between cartographer and gatherer, if any of you fine minds can work it out I'd be highly appreciative |
| 12:25.57 | ckknight | who's the author of it? |
| 12:26.17 | cladhaire | Esamynn |
| 12:26.21 | cladhaire | and it worked pre 2.1 |
| 12:26.29 | cladhaire | and overlay transparency in cart to 75% fixes it. |
| 12:26.29 | ckknight | if you have Frame1 (Alpha), Frame2 (Charlie), and Frame3 (none), Bravo joins, Charlie takes over Frame3, Bravo takes over Frame2. Now using just OAC, how do you accomplish it with only 1 update? |
| 12:26.58 | cladhaire | ckknight: You do the accounting and delay the update until the next OnUpdate |
| 12:26.59 | bleeter | I asked esamynn, suggested I ask ckknight, ckknight said it was an astrolabe problem. so I'm now just going in circles and getting mighty annoyed. |
| 12:27.00 | cladhaire | for example |
| 12:27.20 | cladhaire | bleeter: If you set cartographer's overlay transparency to 75% it fixes it |
| 12:27.23 | cladhaire | but it works with the world map |
| 12:27.29 | cladhaire | thus its not an astrolabe problem. |
| 12:27.29 | Mike-N-Go | seebs: I have added a link to your mail addon in my mail addon's description, I hope you may do the same for your mod. |
| 12:27.31 | ckknight | cladhaire: but how do you only update once in that situation? |
| 12:27.34 | Mike-N-Go | Good night. |
| 12:27.39 | Mike-N-Go | ~ugt |
| 12:27.40 | purl | ugt is, like, Universial Greeting Time. Created in #mipslinux, it is a rule that states that whenever somebody enters an IRC channel it is always morning, and it is always late when the person leaves. The local time of any other people in the channel, including the greeter, is irrelevant. http://www.total-knowledge.com/~ilya/mips/ugt.html |
| 12:27.42 | ckknight | perhaps I'm wrong about it being an Astrolabe problem, bleeter |
| 12:27.47 | bleeter | cladhaire: that's what I thought, but ckknight said it was astrolabe |
| 12:28.08 | cladhaire | bleeter: if it works with the worldmap, it can easily be classified as a cart problem |
| 12:28.11 | bleeter | there's also a ticket in the gatherer tracker indicating commenting out some cartographer code fixes it all nicely |
| 12:28.32 | bleeter | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:29.21 | bleeter | which is why I asked ckknight initially, but when the response was 'astrolabe' I just got real pissed off at the running in circles |
| 12:29.35 | bleeter | 'coz I've got guildies who don't want to drop carto, or gatherer |
| 12:29.51 | ckknight | bleeter: btw, some of the people on that thread seem like assholes |
| 12:29.51 | bleeter | and I ain't no hard core coder like ckk, esam, etc. etc. |
| 12:30.03 | ckknight | I haven't done anything to specifically prevent Gatherer from working with Cart |
| 12:30.06 | bleeter | ckknight: most people on this planet *are* assholes |
| 12:30.14 | ckknight | if it doesn't work, it's a bug and coincidental |
| 12:30.32 | cladhaire | ckknight: this has been reported multiple times, as a bug in cart |
| 12:30.41 | cladhaire | clearly those peopel didn't go through the correct channels |
| 12:30.43 | cladhaire | or something |
| 12:30.46 | bleeter | ckknight: I'm sure it isn't intentional. Just that eventually, someone has to make some noise and get the damned problem out of both our tracking systems lol |
| 12:31.04 | ckknight | bleeter: btw, the code the guy says to comment out is in Gatherer, not Cartographer |
| 12:31.06 | ckknight | so *shrug* |
| 12:31.30 | cladhaire | again |
| 12:31.34 | ckknight | cladhaire: going back to the UF issue, how do you solve the situation I described using just OAC and a single (1) update. |
| 12:31.37 | cladhaire | it is fixed by setting overlay transparency to 75% |
| 12:31.39 | ckknight | I'll look into it, bleeter |
| 12:32.05 | bleeter | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:32.05 | bleeter | [peterl@dick gatherer]$ find . -name GathererMapnotes.xml |
| 12:32.07 | cladhaire | ckknight: I'm not coding something right now, but you could shift the actual frames down, change the unit and toss the new unit/frame in there. |
| 12:32.30 | ckknight | but how do you do that with secure headers? |
| 12:33.09 | cladhaire | *sigh* |
| 12:33.12 | cladhaire | i was proposing something |
| 12:33.14 | cladhaire | I dont have anything coded |
| 12:33.20 | cladhaire | perfectraid works perfectly without any lag |
| 12:33.26 | cladhaire | no complicated code, simple OAC |
| 12:33.40 | cladhaire | i have 80 frames up in a 25 man raid testing, not a single issue |
| 12:33.46 | cladhaire | I'm glad you resolve the issues in pitbull |
| 12:33.50 | cladhaire | maybe people will quit bitching about it now. |
| 12:34.01 | ckknight | but using a straight OAC and no frame manipulation, you have to have more than 1 update if a frame is inserted in the middle |
| 12:34.03 | ckknight | *shrug* |
| 12:34.07 | ckknight | that was my point |
| 12:34.19 | Shirik | (random) this is pretty old, but awesome: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J8UertKBlzg |
| 12:34.24 | ckknight | I implemented a shifting mechanism which allows for it to have a single update |
| 12:34.40 | cladhaire | well great, i'm sure its awesome. |
| 12:34.46 | ckknight | alright then |
| 12:35.33 | bleeter | ckknight: ah, rightio, my bad. /me wonders why ... oh, no capital N |
| 12:35.45 | ckknight | ? |
| 12:35.47 | ckknight | N? |
| 12:36.20 | bleeter | the guy who posted that ticket incorrectly named the file, so my quick search for it failed. as I don't have carto, I figured the search was failing 'coz it was in carto. my bad. |
| 12:36.42 | bleeter | oh, heck, just go back to ignoring me for now |
| 12:36.51 | Shirik | bleeter: now I KNOW you know better than that |
| 12:36.53 | Shirik | users are stupid |
| 12:37.01 | bleeter | 'cept for the bit where I try and get Esamynn|afk and ckknight to try and work out what the cause is ;) |
| 12:42.50 | bleeter | 'coz I just hate seeing fingerpointing between two dev teams, wild accusations both sides, then I come along shoot my mouth off 'n put my foot in it and proove what a dumbass I really am. 'coz in the end, it's the users who suffer. not us dev types, we learn to live with snafu. |
| 12:43.02 | bleeter | and on that note, I'm gunna go to bed. |
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| 12:44.47 | cladhaire | you can't setwidth() on a secure frame in combat, correct? |
| 12:45.00 | cladhaire | stupid question, but my brain is elsewhere |
| 12:45.33 | Shirik | cladhaire: affirmative |
| 12:45.44 | cladhaire | hrm |
| 12:45.53 | Shirik | SetPoint won't (shouldn't) work either |
| 12:46.27 | cladhaire | someone's asking me to dynamically change the width of the praid frames, based on the aura fontstring |
| 12:46.35 | cladhaire | so its only as big as it needs to be |
| 12:46.42 | cladhaire | i was like "yeah.. not so much with the templates" |
| 12:46.44 | cladhaire | and wanted to make sure |
| 12:46.56 | Shirik | otherwise you could just SetWidth(0) to hide em |
| 12:47.18 | cladhaire | yeah, thats why/what I thought |
| 12:47.24 | cladhaire | I'm in work mode at the moment tho |
| 12:47.28 | Shirik | hehe |
| 12:47.54 | bleeter | anyways, donation of some weekend drinking money (via paypal) for anyone who can sort that mess out without having to resort to changing transparencies/configs etc. |
| 12:48.12 | ckknight | hrm |
| 12:48.15 | ckknight | beer is tempting |
| 12:48.19 | ckknight | but I'm only 19 |
| 12:49.06 | zenzelezz | that never stopped anyone before |
| 12:49.32 | ckknight | touche |
| 12:50.08 | zenzelezz | I find the American legal age for drinking peculiar |
| 12:50.38 | ckknight | it is |
| 12:50.44 | Shirik | all limits in the US are moronic |
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| 12:50.55 | Shirik | 16,17,18,21 |
| 12:50.57 | ckknight | ah, blame midwestern conservative housewives |
| 12:50.59 | Shirik | where do those numbers come from |
| 12:51.07 | Shirik | I like Japan |
| 12:51.09 | Shirik | 15, 20 |
| 12:51.12 | Shirik | those numbers make sense |
| 12:51.31 | Shirik | 13 only partially makes sense |
| 12:51.34 | Shirik | since it's the first teenage year |
| 12:52.10 | zenzelezz | most of the limits here are 18 |
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| 12:52.17 | zenzelezz | some minor stuff 16, some heavier drinks 23 |
| 12:52.33 | zenzelezz | or is it 21... can't remember |
| 12:52.38 | Shirik | we don't operate in base 2 |
| 12:52.41 | Shirik | or prime numbers |
| 12:52.44 | Shirik | we operate on the decimal system |
| 12:53.03 | Shirik | where these numbers come from I'll never have any idea |
| 12:53.17 | zenzelezz | I'm not saying they make sense; but having most of them gathered to one single age helps either way |
| 12:53.20 | Shirik | lol every prime age will give you one more benefit |
| 12:53.41 | Shirik | 11,13,17,19,23 |
| 12:53.47 | Shirik | tbh it almost looks accurate >< |
| 12:54.17 | Shirik | zenzelezz: Yeah didn't say you did, just throwing this stuff out there |
| 12:54.24 | Shirik | bear with me I still haven't had any good sleep for a few days |
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| 12:55.35 | bleeter | argh, still here.... I used to like the Australian Army's drinking age... 'If you are expected to die for your country, you can have a drink at the Army bar!' |
| 12:55.48 | Shirik | hehe |
| 12:56.13 | bleeter | *I liked the ... former drinking age |
| 12:56.27 | bleeter | some conservatives got upset that the kids could have a drink and die |
| 12:56.31 | bleeter | they'd rather they just die |
| 12:56.52 | Shirik | lol |
| 12:58.38 | krka | roses are red, violets are blue, you can't rhyme and neither can i |
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| 12:59.22 | zenzelezz | roses are red, violets are blue, when this fight is over, so are you |
| 12:59.52 | zenzelezz | swear I saw that on some boss fight once |
| 13:00.18 | bleeter | roses are blue, violets are red. I'm crap with colours but awesome in bed. |
| 13:00.26 | Shirik | foo = function() end; co = coroutine.create(foo); coroutine.resume(co); --< Now you == co |
| 13:01.16 | Shirik | lua> foo = function() end; co = coroutine.create(foo); coroutine.resume(co); print(coroutine.status(co)) |
| 13:01.17 | cladhaire | Shirik:lua> /Users/jnwhiteh/bin/runlua.lua:190: bad argument #2 to 'sethook' (string expected, got function) |
| 13:01.20 | Shirik | gr |
| 13:01.23 | Shirik | wha? |
| 13:01.30 | Shirik | cladhaire >.> fix your coroutine hooks |
| 13:01.49 | cladhaire | k |
| 13:03.11 | krka | you shouldn't expose your user name like that :) |
| 13:03.20 | krka | it's so indecent |
| 13:03.25 | cladhaire | its in my hostmask imo |
| 13:03.35 | cladhaire | or either way, i dont care =) |
| 13:04.13 | zenzelezz | I bet you can't guess my username |
| 13:04.29 | Shirik | I definitely can't |
| 13:04.32 | Shirik | 12[whois: zenzelezz12] |
| 13:04.33 | Shirik | › name: Lasse Hovlandsdal |
| 13:04.51 | zenzelezz | zenzelezz@stalin:~$ |
| 13:04.59 | Shirik | really? |
| 13:05.00 | Shirik | ha |
| 13:05.02 | zenzelezz | yes |
| 13:07.17 | Shirik | so curious |
| 13:07.26 | Shirik | does zenzelezz mean anything or just came up with it? |
| 13:07.32 | Shirik | or how did you arrive at the name? |
| 13:07.43 | Elkano | s/z/s/ |
| 13:07.53 | cladhaire | lua> foo = function() end co = coroutine.create(foo) |
| 13:07.53 | cladhaire | cladhaire:lua> Made a boolean, /Users/jnwhiteh/bin/runlua.lua:191: bad argument #2 to 'sethook' (string expected, got function) |
| 13:07.54 | Shirik | oh .. |
| 13:07.55 | Shirik | nice |
| 13:08.10 | cladhaire | lua> foo = function() end co = coroutine.create(foo) |
| 13:08.10 | cladhaire | cladhaire:lua> Made a thread, /Users/jnwhiteh/bin/runlua.lua:191: bad argument #2 to 'sethook' (string expected, got function) |
| 13:08.16 | cladhaire | lua> foo = function() end co = coroutine.create(foo) |
| 13:08.16 | cladhaire | cladhaire:lua> Made a thread |
| 13:08.21 | cladhaire | Shirik: there ya go |
| 13:08.33 | Shirik | lua> foo = function() end; co = coroutine.create(foo); coroutine.resume(co); print(coroutine.status(co)) |
| 13:08.33 | cladhaire | Shirik:lua> dead |
| 13:08.35 | Shirik | yey |
| 13:08.44 | zenzelezz | Shirik: I just liked the word, but back then (must be close to eight years ago now I think) the 'z's looked "so cool" |
| 13:08.51 | Shirik | heh |
| 13:09.11 | krka | z's ARE cool |
| 13:09.21 | zenzelezz | depends how they're used |
| 13:09.35 | krka | it's cooler the more you have of them |
| 13:10.12 | zenzelezz | I don't really agree :-p If I hadn't used this nick for so long I'd have chosen something better by now |
| 13:10.47 | zenzelezz | my character still has two z's in the name, but at least that's not a butchered word |
| 13:11.31 | krka | the ultimate nick is like: ZZzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzZZ |
| 13:11.39 | Shirik | the ultimate. |
| 13:11.45 | Shirik | but it has to be capitals at the beginning and end |
| 13:12.43 | Mr_Rabies2 | oooh |
| 13:12.48 | Mr_Rabies2 | new halo ARG it looks like |
| 13:12.53 | Mr_Rabies2 | http://media.teamxbox.com/dailyposts/historycircling.jpg |
| 13:12.58 | Mr_Rabies2 | this was in my email O_o |
| 13:13.18 | Mr_Rabies2 | i hope it's as good as ilovebees |
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| 13:15.44 | bleeter | damn |
| 13:15.57 | bleeter | I went /nick Sue, and was going to say in here HOW DO YOU DO!! |
| 13:15.58 | bleeter | but |
| 13:16.04 | bleeter | 23:15 -!- Sue Erroneous Nickname |
| 13:16.17 | Shirik | hm |
| 13:16.20 | Shirik | why does it doe that? |
| 13:16.40 | Shirik | too short? |
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| 13:16.55 | zenzelezz | it doesn't like >>> either |
| 13:18.31 | BillOrGeorge | ANY DAMNED THING BUT SUE! |
| 13:19.21 | |Jelly| | lol |
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| 13:28.47 | Josh_Borke | LUA |
| 13:28.47 | krka | Josh_Borke: Lua is not an acronym. |
| 13:28.50 | cladhaire | LUA |
| 13:29.20 | cladhaire | purl, zomg is lua> print("LUA" |
| 13:29.20 | purl | ...but zomg is already something else... |
| 13:29.27 | cladhaire | h8 |
| 13:29.50 | Shirik | ~zomg |
| 13:29.50 | purl | from memory, zomg is making fun of internet people |
| 13:30.01 | Josh_Borke | lol |
| 13:30.04 | Shirik | ? |
| 13:30.19 | Shirik | ~factinfo zomg |
| 13:30.19 | purl | zomg -- created by withoutclass <n=Elive_us@c-24-13-73-104.hsd1.il.comcast.net> at Thu Apr 27 00:15:36 2006 (413 days); it has been requested 3 times, last by Shirik, 29s ago. |
| 13:30.26 | Shirik | yeah definitely without class |
| 13:34.38 | Mr_Rabies2 | i have a feeling they're pushing the patch back another week |
| 13:34.46 | sag_ich_nicht | zomg is an ironic omg, actually |
| 13:34.47 | sag_ich_nicht | :P |
| 13:34.58 | Mr_Rabies2 | the new arena stuff still isn't up on the ptr, as far as i can tell |
| 13:35.02 | sag_ich_nicht | Mr_Rabies2 sooo? |
| 13:35.29 | Mr_Rabies2 | the ptr's really hardly different from the live realms at the moment |
| 13:35.37 | Mr_Rabies2 | like, hardly any of the changes are on it yet |
| 13:35.56 | sag_ich_nicht | i'd rather have patches tested longer and working than having to get another 20 hotfixes >.> |
| 13:36.15 | Mr_Rabies2 | they've already pushed it back once |
| 13:36.30 | Mr_Rabies2 | the arena crew aren't going to be happy they have to keep grinding arena for a netherdrake |
| 13:37.23 | Mr_Rabies2 | this is why they should never mention dates |
| 13:37.32 | Mr_Rabies2 | they stopped before because they knew they'd never follow them |
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| 13:37.48 | Mr_Rabies2 | they mention one for the first time in a long time and they're likely gonna miss it twice |
| 13:40.00 | |Jelly| | so apparently my server's going down |
| 13:40.04 | |Jelly| | ...which is lame |
| 13:40.13 | deltron | probably means mine too heh |
| 13:40.24 | deltron | mine was hosed last week |
| 13:40.24 | |Jelly| | no news of it either |
| 13:41.17 | deltron | they were working on the auth servers this morning |
| 13:41.30 | deltron | that was a note from last night |
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| 13:42.07 | TS|Skrom | morning |
| 13:42.37 | deltron | yo |
| 13:42.44 | |Jelly| | morning |
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| 13:43.41 | Shirik | sancus_: You may consider covering that hole in your roof |
| 13:44.08 | Shirik | guess not |
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| 13:44.23 | zenzelezz | he just has a lot on his mind that he wants to share |
| 13:44.41 | TS|Skrom | Any forum questions that need my teneder loving care this morning? still getting everything started up around here |
| 13:45.13 | Shirik | so help you if you bump that thread |
| 13:47.26 | zenzelezz | I can has ACE RDx kk? |
| 13:48.32 | Mr_Rabies2 | The PTRs are expected to come down for a patch at approximately 18:00 CEST today. The downtime should not be more than 4 hours. |
| 13:49.03 | |Jelly| | I don't play on the PTR 8P |
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| 13:54.17 | Shirik | hiya Aella |
| 13:54.21 | Aella | 'lo. |
| 13:54.28 | |Jelly| | Aella! Hi 8) |
| 13:55.13 | |Jelly| | http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/realmstatus/ This is some crap. |
| 13:55.24 | Aella | lua> print("enabled?") |
| 13:55.24 | cladhaire | Aella:lua> enabled? |
| 13:55.30 | Aella | lua> if not ico or GetTime()-ico.t>15 then ico={t=GetTime(),n=1,8,5,4} end SetRaidTarget("target",ico[ico.n]) ico.n=(ico.n+1)%#ico |
| 13:55.30 | cladhaire | Aella:lua> Compilation failed: [string " if not ico or GetTime()-ico.t>15 then ico={t=GetTime(),n=1,8,5..."]:1: unexpected symbol near '<' |
| 13:56.19 | TS|Skrom | what's crap? all those green arrows? |
| 13:56.26 | Aella | lua> print("#lua") |
| 13:56.26 | cladhaire | Aella:lua> Compilation failed: [string " print("12irc://irc.freenode.net/#lua")"]:1: ')' expected near 'irc' |
| 13:56.33 | Shirik | o.o |
| 13:56.37 | Shirik | lua> print("#") |
| 13:56.37 | cladhaire | Shirik:lua> # |
| 13:56.49 | Shirik | ? |
| 13:56.54 | Shirik | lua> print("#lua") |
| 13:56.54 | cladhaire | Shirik:lua> Compilation failed: [string " print("12irc://irc.freenode.net/#lua")"]:1: ')' expected near 'irc' |
| 13:56.56 | Aella | lua> if not ico or GetTime()-ico.t>15 then ico={t=GetTime(),n=1,8,5,4} end SetRaidTarget("target",ico[ico.n]) ico.n=(ico.n+1)%ico |
| 13:56.56 | cladhaire | Aella:lua> [string " if not ico or GetTime()-ico.t>15 then ico=..."]:1: attempt to call global 'GetTime' (a nil value) |
| 13:56.59 | Aella | Good. |
| 13:57.10 | Shirik | wtf is that though? |
| 13:57.20 | Aella | Raid target castsequence. |
| 13:57.22 | Aella | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=110631485&postId=1105018345&sid=1#2 |
| 13:57.22 | Shirik | no |
| 13:57.29 | Shirik | 092:572:24 12‹@8cladhaire12› Shirik:lua> Compilation failed: [string " print("12irc://irc.freenode.net/#lua")"]:1: ')' expected near 'irc' |
| 13:57.34 | Aella | What? The auto html-channeling? |
| 13:57.38 | TS|Skrom | *gasp* my beautiful troll from yesterday was deleted? |
| 13:57.44 | Aella | Or channel-htmling? |
| 13:57.46 | Shirik | no, why is #lua becoming |
| 13:57.46 | Shirik | oh |
| 13:57.48 | Shirik | I get it |
| 13:57.55 | Shirik | hrm |
| 13:58.00 | cladhaire | it gets linkified |
| 13:58.04 | Shirik | lua> t = {1,2,3}; print(#t) |
| 13:58.04 | cladhaire | Shirik:lua> 3 |
| 13:58.08 | cladhaire | i can strip it |
| 13:58.17 | Shirik | lua> lua = {1,2,3}; print(#lua) |
| 13:58.17 | cladhaire | Shirik:lua> Compilation failed: [string " lua = {1,2,3}; print(12irc://irc.freenode.net/#lua |
| 13:58.19 | Shirik | heh |
| 13:58.49 | foxlit | bumb ACE RDX thread! |
| 13:58.53 | Shirik | no! |
| 13:58.53 | TS|Skrom | oh false alarm, it's still there XD |
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| 13:59.33 | |Jelly| | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=109971652&sid=1&pageNo=4 *ahem* |
| 13:59.55 | cladhaire | lua> print("#lua") |
| 13:59.56 | cladhaire | cladhaire:lua> #lua |
| 14:01.17 | Aella | lua> if not ico or GetTime()-ico.t>15 then ico={t=GetTime(),n=1,8,5,4} end SetRaidTarget("target",ico[ico.n]) ico.n=(ico.n+1)%#ico |
| 14:01.17 | cladhaire | Aella:lua> [string " if not ico or GetTime()-ico.t>15 then ico=..."]:1: attempt to call global 'GetTime' (a nil value) |
| 14:01.22 | Aella | Good, compiles. |
| 14:01.29 | foxlit | lua> print("#lua") |
| 14:01.29 | cladhaire | foxlit:lua> Compilation failed: [string " print("#lua..."]:1: unexpected symbol near '&' |
| 14:01.56 | foxlit | lua> print("hi"); |
| 14:01.57 | cladhaire | foxlit:lua> Compilation failed: [string " print("hi")..."]:1: unexpected symbol near '&' |
| 14:02.10 | Aella | lua> "print("hi");" |
| 14:02.10 | cladhaire | Aella:lua> print("hi"); |
| 14:02.13 | Shirik | lua> oldprint = print; print = function(s, ...) if not s then return; elseif type(s) = "string" then oldprint('"'..s..'"'); print(...) else oldprint(s); print(...); end end; print(3, "3", "3") |
| 14:02.13 | cladhaire | Shirik:lua> Compilation failed: [string " oldprint = print; print = function(s, ...) if not s then retur..."]:1: 'then' expected near '=' |
| 14:02.28 | Shirik | lua> oldprint = print; print = function(s, ...) if not s then return; elseif type(s) == "string" then oldprint('"'..s..'"'); print(...) else oldprint(s); print(...); end end; print(3, "3", "3") |
| 14:02.28 | cladhaire | Shirik:lua> 3, "3", "3" |
| 14:02.31 | Shirik | yey |
| 14:02.33 | krka | i should add a temporary ignore on everyone who uses "lua>" |
| 14:02.37 | Shirik | do it! |
| 14:03.47 | Aella | lua> oldprint = print; print = function(s, ...) if not s then return; elseif type(s) == "string" then oldprint(string.format("%q", s); print(...) else oldprint(s); print(...); end end; print(3, "3", "3") |
| 14:03.47 | cladhaire | Aella:lua> Compilation failed: [string " oldprint = print; print = function(s, ...) if not s then retur..."]:1: ')' expected near ';' |
| 14:04.03 | Aella | lua> oldprint = print; print = function(s, ...) if not s then return; elseif type(s) == "string" then oldprint(string.format("%q", s)); print(...) else oldprint(s); print(...); end end; print(3, "3", "3") |
| 14:04.03 | cladhaire | Aella:lua> 3, "3", "3" |
| 14:04.17 | Josh_Borke | /who purl_ |
| 14:04.19 | Aella | ^ likes better. |
| 14:04.44 | Aella | lua> oldprint = print; print = function(s, ...) if not s then return; elseif type(s) == "string" then oldprint(string.format("%q", s)); print(...) else oldprint(s); print(...); end end; print(3, "3", "\000\n") |
| 14:04.44 | cladhaire | Aella:lua> 3, "3", "\000\ " |
| 14:04.53 | krka | seriously... the channel is being spammed by lua code |
| 14:04.56 | krka | it annoys me :( |
| 14:05.07 | Josh_Borke | krka: just look at your thumbs and everything will be fine |
| 14:05.13 | Aella | Guess I need to stop slacking and just install Lua. |
| 14:05.48 | krka | cladhaire: can you change your script to only respond in private? |
| 14:05.55 | cladhaire | to only respond in private? |
| 14:06.00 | cladhaire | Luabot has been disabled. |
| 14:06.15 | cladhaire | the point is to have it available for people to illustrate lua concepts to other people in the channel. |
| 14:06.15 | krka | oh i see |
| 14:06.19 | cladhaire | I can't help if its abused. |
| 14:06.28 | cladhaire | people can PM me |
| 14:06.30 | cladhaire | they just don't. |
| 14:06.32 | Aella | Does it respond in private if it's... ah |
| 14:06.34 | cladhaire | yes. |
| 14:06.38 | krka | perhaps there should be a #luabot channel or something |
| 14:06.38 | [Ammo] | haha |
| 14:06.40 | cladhaire | i've said that about 30,000 times |
| 14:06.45 | cladhaire | krka: I've made it, no one joins |
| 14:06.51 | Aella | And I've missed it 29,999 times. |
| 14:06.53 | zenzelezz | the bot spam dies down as soon as the possibilities to crash clad are ironed out |
| 14:07.00 | krka | and disable it in other public channels? :) |
| 14:07.06 | cladhaire | zenzelezz: I've never been crashable. |
| 14:07.15 | cladhaire | I'll blacklist this channel |
| 14:07.17 | zenzelezz | details |
| 14:07.19 | cladhaire | if i can figure out how to |
| 14:07.20 | TS|Skrom | take a fifth of vodka nad say that again |
| 14:07.22 | zenzelezz | they're still looking for flaws |
| 14:07.29 | cladhaire | and notify those people by PM to join #luabot or PM me. |
| 14:08.15 | krka | cladhaire: that would rock! |
| 14:08.24 | cladhaire | it'll stay disabled for now |
| 14:08.29 | cladhaire | since i dont have any idea how to do any of that at the moment. |
| 14:08.38 | krka | what are you coding the irc bot part in? |
| 14:09.06 | Cairenn|afk | ... |
| 14:09.29 | krka | hey cair |
| 14:09.40 | Cairenn|afk | hi |
| 14:09.46 | zenzelezz | "..." what? |
| 14:10.05 | krka | she means "variable arguments" of course |
| 14:10.06 | cladhaire | krka: its an applescript plugin to colloquy, which just dispatches the lua script, and prints the results. |
| 14:10.06 | foxlit | select(2, ...) |
| 14:10.18 | TS|Skrom | Quote: Addons cannot interact with the minimap and 3D world in that fashion. -- regarding an addon to scan the minimap for mining nodes and popup an SCT message |
| 14:10.19 | bleeter | RDX thread bummed... I'm *really* off to bed now. gnight all. |
| 14:10.23 | Cairenn|afk | spamming the channel makes for an unhappy Cairenn, because it makes for unhappy chan members |
| 14:10.24 | cladhaire | so my control is limited |
| 14:10.26 | cladhaire | to say the least |
| 14:10.28 | TS|Skrom | I thought that addons COULD scan the blips... |
| 14:10.42 | krka | doesn't the applescript callback receive the target channel as input? |
| 14:10.56 | foxlit | TS|Skrom: not quite. |
| 14:10.57 | cladhaire | not really |
| 14:10.57 | cladhaire | no |
| 14:11.03 | cladhaire | i wish it was that easy |
| 14:11.11 | cladhaire | Cairenn|afk: I agree 100% |
| 14:11.16 | krka | Cairenn|afk: you must all give them a good banning! followed by the oral sex |
| 14:11.17 | foxlit | You can move minimap under mouse and read gametooltip, but that's slow and painful |
| 14:11.22 | cladhaire | i wasn't watching, so when I was pinged, I disabled the bot. |
| 14:11.35 | TS|Skrom | how slow and how painful? |
| 14:11.45 | foxlit | Don't know; you try. |
| 14:11.58 | TS|Skrom | Where I come from we call that a challenge! |
| 14:12.23 | zenzelezz | I thought I heard about someone doing that long ago; and that it was "quite inefficient" or something |
| 14:13.02 | TS|Skrom | when a blip is made does it set itself as a child of the minimap? |
| 14:13.19 | nevcairiel | i dont think you can actually find the blips as any frame |
| 14:13.21 | nevcairiel | its been tried |
| 14:13.22 | nevcairiel | and failed |
| 14:13.31 | TS|Skrom | ah |
| 14:13.41 | nevcairiel | you can replace their texture tho |
| 14:13.43 | nevcairiel | somehow. |
| 14:13.49 | TS|Skrom | so they must "exist" |
| 14:13.58 | TS|Skrom | even if only as a template that's applied to whatever shows up |
| 14:14.41 | nevcairiel | Minimap:SetBlibTextures |
| 14:14.43 | nevcairiel | or something |
| 14:14.51 | Aella | Not necessarily. They could be just drawn as textures directly, not passed through the frame system. |
| 14:15.10 | TS|Skrom | good point |
| 14:15.10 | nevcairiel | Minimap:SetBlipTexture("file") |
| 14:15.12 | nevcairiel | tthats it |
| 14:15.17 | nevcairiel | thats all you can do with it iirc |
| 14:16.42 | TS|Skrom | okay but let me ask this: in order for the client to know that it should show a blip, something must tell it. Does an event fire when a blip is added or deleted? |
| 14:17.07 | nevcairiel | i think its intentionally hidden in the client and not exposed to addons in any way |
| 14:17.09 | foxlit | TS|Skrom: C-side can do that |
| 14:17.19 | zenzelezz | as they're saying, the client can cheat |
| 14:17.47 | zenzelezz | addons are on a need-to-know basis, and right now, they don't need to know! |
| 14:17.48 | End | the entire minimap stuff is rendered C-side |
| 14:17.53 | TS|Skrom | lol |
| 14:18.14 | nevcairiel | so yeah, the blibs are directly drawn onto the texture by the engine :) |
| 14:18.33 | TS|Skrom | based on sekrit infoz |
| 14:19.19 | nevcairiel | just tell them to open their eyes :P when i go herb farming, i pay attention to my minimap .. thats just it :D |
| 14:19.46 | TS|Skrom | yeah same here, I just thought it *would* be kinda neat hehe |
| 14:20.36 | TS|Skrom | although it would open up a whole new avenue to hunters... build a PC database of players you've encountered and send warnings to you when a hostile pc approaches |
| 14:20.51 | TS|Skrom | like an automated ICU |
| 14:21.05 | TS|Skrom | a little too powerful in that regard |
| 14:21.11 | nevcairiel | a little |
| 14:21.12 | nevcairiel | :) |
| 14:21.22 | foxlit | Not the same blips, are those? |
| 14:21.31 | nevcairiel | tracking blibs are tracking blibs |
| 14:21.34 | foxlit | Tracking and nodes use different textures, at least |
| 14:21.50 | TS|Skrom | well i figure a blips a blip. if it were possible to get data from one type it would be possible for all |
| 14:21.51 | nevcairiel | thats true |
| 14:21.54 | foxlit | (i.e. find herbs vs sense demons) |
| 14:22.03 | TS|Skrom | one's red, ones yellow |
| 14:22.07 | nevcairiel | npc/pc tracking has this reddish blibs |
| 14:22.15 | nevcairiel | meh too slow :D |
| 14:22.27 | zenzelezz | what about quest-hand-in blips? |
| 14:22.32 | nevcairiel | yellow |
| 14:22.37 | foxlit | same as herbs |
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| 14:26.12 | TS|Skrom | "SPELL_FAILED_ONLY_NIGHTTIME" -- heh cool |
| 14:26.24 | Aella | Heh, that's probably a leftover from Shadowmeld. =P |
| 14:26.40 | TS|Skrom | DAYTIME version too |
| 14:26.56 | TS|Skrom | I can never tell for some reason |
| 14:27.00 | TS|Skrom | it never really gets dark |
| 14:27.04 | Aella | For symmetry. =P |
| 14:27.10 | nevcairiel | in some regions it does |
| 14:27.27 | nevcairiel | or unhide the sun icon on the minimap :D |
| 14:27.35 | TS|Skrom | lol |
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| 14:28.07 | TS|Skrom | Hey, what's the key to getting a WTF copy to work for someone else... I zipped my addons and wtf folder for my friend who was just starting again, but he still had to manually set all the settings instead of just plug and play |
| 14:28.36 | Aella | Character name. |
| 14:28.41 | nevcairiel | the SVs are based on account name, and some even character name |
| 14:28.49 | Aella | If an add-on saves character-specific variables, you've gotta rename a folder. |
| 14:29.02 | Aella | If an add-on has a profile system, you've gotta actually edit the savedvariables file. |
| 14:29.04 | TS|Skrom | right... I copied WTF in, renamed Account name, server name and character name |
| 14:29.08 | TS|Skrom | loaded and nothin |
| 14:29.45 | Aella | If an add-on has a profile system, they usually do MyProfiles = { ["Charatername"] = {...} } |
| 14:30.02 | TS|Skrom | ahh |
| 14:30.11 | nevcairiel | or even ["Charactername - Server"] |
| 14:30.16 | nevcairiel | or something |
| 14:30.34 | TS|Skrom | never even thought of that |
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| 14:48.32 | zenzelezz | uh oh, it's back |
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| 14:50.50 | TS|Skrom | hrm... is 7int 5sta and 270 armor worth 11 spirit |
| 14:50.52 | TS|Skrom | I think so |
| 14:50.54 | TS|Skrom | heh |
| 14:51.06 | zenzelezz | for what class? |
| 14:51.11 | TS|Skrom | oooo crap, not worth 12g when I'm broke though |
| 14:51.12 | TS|Skrom | pally |
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| 14:52.34 | Kirkburn | zenzelezz, "uh oh, it's back" ... should I be taking offence? :P |
| 14:52.52 | zenzelezz | preferably a bit faster next time |
| 14:53.06 | TS|Skrom | *sigh* 664armor 24spr/37sta for 7g... 491armor 17int/16 sta for 12g... |
| 14:53.12 | Kirkburn | =( |
| 14:53.40 | cladhaire | hi Kirkburn ! web |
| 14:54.14 | Josh_Borke | TS|Skrom: yes |
| 14:57.06 | Kirkburn | I refuse to rbing myself to the level of teh internets .... your mom. |
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| 14:59.16 | deltron | cladhaire: quick question about lightheaded, what would cause it to have a frame error where I can't move lightheaded? |
| 15:00.23 | cladhaire | deltron: is it detached? |
| 15:00.36 | deltron | not really, it's behind the quest window |
| 15:01.20 | TS|Skrom | lol I should get 6/8 wildheart for my pally |
| 15:01.36 | TS|Skrom | chance for 300 mana back when i get hit? as a healing tank? yowsah! |
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| 15:02.41 | zenzelezz | Wildheart must be pretty imba in heroics |
| 15:03.04 | zenzelezz | "did he just die again?" |
| 15:03.08 | TS|Skrom | for those of us who's highest level is 60, can you explain? |
| 15:03.35 | zenzelezz | I thought everyone was 70 by now |
| 15:03.51 | TS|Skrom | quit when bc came out |
| 15:04.06 | TS|Skrom | when I came back I went back to my first character (paladin) who was only 49 |
| 15:04.23 | TS|Skrom | instead of my hunter who was 60 |
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| 15:12.16 | Josh_Borke | tragedy! |
| 15:12.31 | Josh_Borke | vim is not listed as a text editor :-( |
| 15:12.57 | TS|Skrom | I didn't think vim WAS a text editor |
| 15:13.04 | TS|Skrom | I always thought of it more as a text molestor |
| 15:13.13 | Josh_Borke | well |
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| 15:22.08 | cladhaire | deltron: type /lh detatch |
| 15:22.24 | cladhaire | deltron: You're probably using skinner, which I don't support.. because I think its the devil. |
| 15:23.30 | Josh_Borke | lol |
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| 15:29.35 | KriLL3 | this might sound like an odd question, but is it possible to show/hide/move frames of different addons depending on triggers like switching druid form? |
| 15:29.53 | KriLL3 | something like move anything, but with a profile for each form |
| 15:31.00 | deltron | ohhh |
| 15:31.04 | deltron | cladhaire: thanks :) |
| 15:31.35 | deltron | i'll just remove skinner :P |
| 15:31.36 | cog|work | KriLL3: It's possible for an addon to do that, yes, but I doubt there's anything around that does |
| 15:33.07 | KriLL3 | :\ |
| 15:33.34 | cog|work | of course, you're in the right place if you want to learn how to do that kind of thing yourself :P |
| 15:34.01 | KriLL3 | I know actionscript, html and css, I doubt I'd be any good at LUA |
| 15:34.01 | krka | KriLL3: Lua is not an acronym. |
| 15:34.10 | KriLL3 | krka: bot? |
| 15:34.16 | cog|work | only when you type LUA |
| 15:34.23 | cog|work | other than that he's a real person :P |
| 15:34.32 | KriLL3 | really important message there... |
| 15:34.42 | cog|work | we're perfectionists |
| 15:34.50 | KriLL3 | most coders are |
| 15:35.04 | KriLL3 | helps in their chosen profession |
| 15:35.48 | TS|Skrom | professin?? people get PAID to do this? |
| 15:36.00 | cog|work | Lua's pretty easy but there aren't any good beginning programming tutorials that use it (yet) |
| 15:36.17 | KriLL3 | DART can do stuff with scrips checking what buffs are applied, and DFM can do stuff also, but I'm way tired of Discord... a headache to use. |
| 15:36.29 | cladhaire | deltron: Removing skinner will just attach the frame to your quest log (nothign will be blocked, and you'll be able to see anything) |
| 15:36.49 | cladhaire | you can detach the frame, and you can resize/move it wherever you want withotu disabling skinner |
| 15:36.57 | deltron | cladhaire: that's fine with me if it's attached :) |
| 15:37.00 | KriLL3 | skinner isn't something you'd recommend cladhaire ? |
| 15:37.13 | cladhaire | i think skinner looks bad, and it does bad things |
| 15:37.22 | cladhaire | you're welcome to do what you'd like :P |
| 15:37.34 | KriLL3 | Yeah not that pretty, agree with that. |
| 15:37.42 | deltron | woo hoo! I broke vista! :( |
| 15:37.48 | KriLL3 | deltron: gz |
| 15:39.25 | KriLL3 | anyone here seen Druidium or Ultimate UI? I'd like to do my own stuff similar to that, but changes depending on druid form, caster = normal button overload, cat = sleek and with only the cat buttons visible,(swift) flightform = no bars no nothing, just a framed cartographer directional arrow and an enlarged minimap |
| 15:39.28 | KriLL3 | but I guess all this is only a pipe dream :( |
| 15:41.05 | KriLL3 | I'm an accomplished graphical designer, but I don't know that much about LUA or the WoW API... looking into eePanels for bottom texture and that seems to work out fine, but I don't know how to change that texture depending on what form I'm currently in, not to mention hiding bartender3/bongos bars and changing/moving/scaling other elements of the UI... |
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| 15:42.38 | KriLL3 | DART + DFM could most likely do part of this but Discord isn't exactly well documented, the version that is out currently is a third party port of the pre TBC one and the author isn't even close to releasing the new version... and the forums are silent as a grave, no help there. |
| 15:43.47 | KriLL3 | Is there an addon that lets you place elements that works as popup menus? tired of having tons of bars filled with stuff I don't use that often but still don't want to dig in my spellbook for... |
| 15:44.25 | KriLL3 | Yes, everyone flee the raving maniac, run... :| |
| 15:49.04 | deltron | heh |
| 15:49.16 | deltron | I use yata for my totems |
| 15:49.18 | deltron | :P |
| 15:49.27 | deltron | too bad you're not a shaman eh |
| 15:49.45 | KriLL3 | I don't mind not being a shaman |
| 15:49.57 | deltron | druids are fun |
| 15:50.18 | KriLL3 | I got 60~ of all classes, but only 1 70, my druid. |
| 15:50.37 | KriLL3 | hard to keep away from my druid for any length of time |
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| 16:03.33 | TS|Skrom | KriLL3 someone will correct me if I'm mistaken, but I believe with WoW 2.0 it was changed that you couldn't have buttons that would hide/show while in combat |
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| 16:04.00 | Shirik|AFK | 112:372:43 12‹@cladhaire12› i think skinner looks bad, and it does bad things |
| 16:04.01 | TC-Working | as far as i know, thats true |
| 16:04.02 | Shirik|AFK | so agree |
| 16:04.11 | Shirik|AFK | personally I just think it's ugly, but others like it so hey |
| 16:04.14 | Shirik|AFK | not going to hold it against them |
| 16:04.17 | KriLL3 | TS|Skrom: I don't need stuff that works in combat |
| 16:04.17 | TC-Working | Shirik|AFK, i like it |
| 16:04.23 | Shirik | like I said there are those that do |
| 16:04.27 | Shirik | personal opinion nothing more |
| 16:04.31 | TC-Working | yes, you just have no taste |
| 16:04.35 | TC-Working | :) |
| 16:05.02 | Shirik | so |
| 16:05.04 | Shirik | it's been nearly a week now |
| 16:05.05 | TC-Working | ehh...what happened to files.wowace.com? |
| 16:05.08 | KriLL3 | all my combat stuff is bound to keybinds, I need it for emotes and professions and stuff |
| 16:05.08 | Shirik | the school network is still down |
| 16:05.17 | Shirik | TC-Working: Their SVN is jacked last I heard |
| 16:05.20 | TS|Skrom | lol funny story, I did some battlegrounds last night and this warrior (the flag) carrier kept asking how I was "casting the first aid icon on him" |
| 16:05.34 | Shirik | ?? |
| 16:05.36 | TS|Skrom | poor bloke'd never seen blessing of sacrifice before |
| 16:05.37 | TC-Working | ah, ok, thanks Shirik |
| 16:05.39 | Shirik | cast the first aid icon? |
| 16:05.42 | KriLL3 | is there any bar addon that can have one of it's bars shown/hidden by the use of a toggle macro? |
| 16:06.04 | TS|Skrom | again, the showing/hiding can only be done out of cmbat |
| 16:06.10 | KriLL3 | yes |
| 16:06.14 | KriLL3 | and again, I don't need it in combat |
| 16:06.19 | TS|Skrom | so yes, there are plenty of menues you can show/hide on, bartender3 for one |
| 16:06.31 | KriLL3 | since all my combat stuff in already bound to keys and will not ever be hidden |
| 16:06.33 | TS|Skrom | any window can be toggled with a macro |
| 16:06.58 | KriLL3 | It's impossible to have more than 10 bars even if you mix bar addon, true? |
| 16:07.24 | TS|Skrom | that part I'm not sure on. Some addons used to claim 10 bars with 10 pages |
| 16:07.27 | TS|Skrom | not sure how that worked |
| 16:07.28 | KriLL3 | I don't need 10 full size bars, just wish to mix up the size of stuff to make combat stuff more focused, and make random stuff smaller |
| 16:07.37 | Shirik | la da da da da da da da da da da da |
| 16:07.42 | Shirik | I can't believe this song is stuck in my head >.> |
| 16:07.47 | Shirik | I don't even know the words! |
| 16:07.56 | Shirik | I only know the part that goes "la da da" |
| 16:08.13 | KriLL3 | bartender's page function basically switch the content to another bar, so you can't use all 10 if you got pages etc |
| 16:09.08 | TS|Skrom | so were old time barmods like discord "faking" pages by saving/creating buttons as you paged? |
| 16:09.32 | KriLL3 | SuperMacro does that with macros |
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| 16:11.34 | KriLL3 | anyone know of an addon that gives you circular buttons in a bar? seen it in some screens, I don't mean necrosis btw, only round buttons not the whole warlock thing |
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| 16:12.03 | TS|Skrom | cyCircled |
| 16:12.13 | nevcairiel | cyCircled offers skins for all major bar addons |
| 16:12.34 | KriLL3 | ty |
| 16:12.44 | KriLL3 | not on curse or wowui |
| 16:12.54 | TS|Skrom | www.wowace.com/files/ |
| 16:13.02 | KriLL3 | 404 |
| 16:13.06 | nevcairiel | the files page is teh broken right now tho |
| 16:13.07 | TS|Skrom | er |
| 16:13.10 | TS|Skrom | oh |
| 16:13.12 | nevcairiel | i think its on wowinterface |
| 16:13.29 | KriLL3 | "cyCircled" isn't |
| 16:13.37 | nevcairiel | http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info6287-cyCircled.html |
| 16:13.44 | KriLL3 | I wish wowace would get an actual UI on their site.. |
| 16:13.51 | nevcairiel | dunno how recent the version there is |
| 16:13.57 | TS|Skrom | my faith in all things "ACE" is shaken not that I've witnessed the looming four oh four |
| 16:14.10 | KriLL3 | "Date: 11-23-2006" hmm... |
| 16:14.19 | nevcairiel | guess no one updated it there :P |
| 16:14.28 | TS|Skrom | it's not a mod that has leant itself to NEEDing updates |
| 16:14.38 | nevcairiel | well support for new actionbars |
| 16:14.40 | KriLL3 | it lists Bartender2 as one of the compadible addons... |
| 16:14.45 | nevcairiel | its from november |
| 16:14.47 | KriLL3 | no mention of 3 |
| 16:14.52 | nevcairiel | there was no 3 :P |
| 16:15.02 | TS|Skrom | no spoon either |
| 16:15.07 | nevcairiel | hehe |
| 16:15.14 | KriLL3 | everyone knows addon authors got access to time machines |
| 16:15.57 | nevcairiel | anyway i can zip it up for you |
| 16:16.07 | KriLL3 | I'd like that. :) |
| 16:16.11 | TS|Skrom | lawl time machines |
| 16:16.16 | TC-Working | dont trust him, it has a keylogger.... |
| 16:16.32 | KriLL3 | I'm on a very secure system and auto scan all downloads... |
| 16:16.33 | TS|Skrom | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=109934291&postId=1096967831&sid=1#2 |
| 16:16.52 | nevcairiel | everyone and their dog has a keylogger |
| 16:17.22 | TS|Skrom | I'm on my work laptop with about 10 backdoors opened because I hate my job |
| 16:17.25 | foxlit | <KriLL3> I'm on a very secure system and auto scan all downloads... |
| 16:17.30 | nevcairiel | http://downloads.nevcairiel.net/cyCircled.rar |
| 16:17.37 | nevcairiel | there is no such thing as a secure system tho :) |
| 16:17.50 | foxlit | KriLL3: This is a novelty virus. Please hit start, select run and type "format c:", followed by "yes" "yes" "yes", "fucking yes already" |
| 16:17.51 | TC-Working | KriLL3, you can only scan for things that match the filters you have |
| 16:17.51 | KriLL3 | "very secure" |
| 16:17.56 | KriLL3 | not perfectly secure |
| 16:18.19 | KriLL3 | anything with a user at the controls isn't secure |
| 16:18.30 | nevcairiel | so, nothing :D |
| 16:18.31 | KriLL3 | nevcairiel: done, thx :) |
| 16:18.31 | TS|Skrom | what I want to know is why my bartender is suddenly not showing cooldow shaders |
| 16:18.31 | TC-Working | yea, it's always prbkac |
| 16:18.34 | TC-Working | pebkac* |
| 16:18.48 | KriLL3 | TS|Skrom: I got the shaders, but not the count :( |
| 16:18.57 | nevcairiel | you need OmniCC for the count |
| 16:19.02 | KriLL3 | oh, right. |
| 16:19.02 | TS|Skrom | I don't have the count because dr.damage covers over it lol |
| 16:19.06 | TS|Skrom | but my shaders are gone >< |
| 16:19.06 | nevcairiel | or some other cooldown counter |
| 16:19.17 | KriLL3 | ctmod got that in by default... |
| 16:19.36 | nevcairiel | well bartender is not ctmod :P |
| 16:19.36 | TS|Skrom | which part of ctmod? |
| 16:19.40 | KriLL3 | bars |
| 16:19.43 | nevcairiel | prolly barmod :P |
| 16:19.44 | nevcairiel | hehe |
| 16:19.47 | KriLL3 | nevcairiel: U SHUR? |
| 16:19.50 | TS|Skrom | the one I just turned off... |
| 16:19.53 | TS|Skrom | figures |
| 16:19.58 | KriLL3 | yeah, same |
| 16:20.03 | KriLL3 | replaced em with bartender |
| 16:20.13 | nevcairiel | pretty sure |
| 16:20.35 | TS|Skrom | I went through my addon list and unchecked a bunch of stuff that I didn't think I was using XD |
| 16:20.43 | KriLL3 | can you make a bar in bartender/bongos that has mixed icon sizes? |
| 16:20.49 | TS|Skrom | I had bartender3 so didnt' think I needed ct lol |
| 16:20.57 | nevcairiel | you dont need ct barmod |
| 16:21.06 | nevcairiel | if you have bt3 |
| 16:21.06 | [dRaCo] | KriLL3: no, not in one bar |
| 16:21.14 | KriLL3 | I want something like 3 large once and 4 smaller once bellow that but I don't want to waste 2 bars on it |
| 16:21.20 | nevcairiel | i planned that for bt4 |
| 16:21.28 | nevcairiel | but i am kinda lacking time |
| 16:21.31 | nevcairiel | for development |
| 16:21.41 | KriLL3 | nevcairiel: you're on the dev team of bartender? |
| 16:21.51 | nevcairiel | i am the dev team :D |
| 16:21.56 | TS|Skrom | well nevcairiel without ct barmod I get no cooldown shader, what can I use istead? |
| 16:21.58 | KriLL3 | heh, nice. love the addon. |
| 16:22.20 | nevcairiel | TS|Skrom: default bartender has the shaders, unless some other kinky addon keeps hiding them |
| 16:22.27 | TS|Skrom | could be |
| 16:22.34 | TC-Working | that cant be right....i get a cooldown shader with bar3 and i dont have ctbars |
| 16:22.38 | TS|Skrom | maybe dr.damage is doing it, it plays funky with the bars |
| 16:22.52 | KriLL3 | just give a feature that makes uneven columns scale to fit ;) like 3 on top and 4 bellow makes the 3 ontop bigger so it's all the same width or similar. |
| 16:23.08 | KriLL3 | I got CTmod bars on, dunno why... |
| 16:23.11 | KriLL3 | don't use it |
| 16:23.36 | KriLL3 | it's not needed to nuke the default action bar, correct? |
| 16:25.24 | TS|Skrom | GAH |
| 16:25.34 | TS|Skrom | stupid coworkers making me stop playing |
| 16:25.41 | TS|Skrom | I should make her pay my repair bill |
| 16:25.42 | TS|Skrom | er... |
| 16:25.44 | TS|Skrom | uh.. |
| 16:25.46 | TS|Skrom | nm |
| 16:25.54 | KriLL3 | work infringes on fun/spare time, hate it. |
| 16:26.16 | KriLL3 | nerf work |
| 16:26.34 | TS|Skrom | I was actually doing pretty well, was a Elite-2 and I could window in a couple times when she turned around to write something down and heal back up to full but the last window out just took too long XD |
| 16:26.53 | |Jelly| | http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t74/JackOnTheMap/WoWScrnShot_061307_102424.jpg what combat log is that? |
| 16:27.00 | KriLL3 | what is the name of the addon that gives you a 3d render of your char's/target's face? |
| 16:27.10 | |Jelly| | Model Magic / Model Citizen |
| 16:27.12 | zenzelezz | lots of them |
| 16:27.26 | KriLL3 | zenzelezz: which would you recommend? |
| 16:27.33 | |Jelly| | sorry...didn't see face |
| 16:27.38 | KriLL3 | |Jelly| is any of those TBC compadible? |
| 16:27.39 | TS|Skrom | combat log looks like the one by SCT guy... erm... what's the name.. |
| 16:27.44 | |Jelly| | Both of them |
| 16:27.48 | KriLL3 | saw both and both looked pre TBC |
| 16:28.01 | KriLL3 | TS|Skrom: that combat log confuses me |
| 16:28.17 | KriLL3 | I use Hitsmode, like it, thought it misses some stuff I had to add with simple combat log |
| 16:28.17 | Punkie` | The combat log is called Eavesdrop i think |
| 16:28.33 | TS|Skrom | EavesDrop |
| 16:28.36 | TS|Skrom | too slow ;( |
| 16:28.49 | TS|Skrom | I kept wanting to call it "OverHear", "ListenIn"...crap |
| 16:29.15 | KriLL3 | how does it work? looks really confusing |
| 16:29.34 | TS|Skrom | I'm serious! I was about to type: "I can't remember the name but it's a synonym for listening in on someone's conversation" lol |
| 16:29.36 | Punkie` | the left is the damage in and the right is the damage out |
| 16:29.38 | Punkie` | whats confusing? |
| 16:29.54 | KriLL3 | well 2 of each value? |
| 16:30.11 | KriLL3 | oh, it scrolls, nvm |
| 16:30.20 | KriLL3 | looked it was tabular |
| 16:30.26 | KriLL3 | + like |
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| 16:33.16 | |Jelly| | *cry* it doesn't seem to be updated |
| 16:34.32 | KriLL3 | can you move stuff using MoveAnything! to a specific possessions using slash commands? |
| 16:35.01 | TS|Skrom | |Jelly| http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info5332-EavesDrop.html |
| 16:35.12 | TS|Skrom | latest update is 6/2/07 |
| 16:35.47 | TS|Skrom | now I don't know what kind up update schedule you keep with your addons, but 12 days is hardly one to call "not updated" |
| 16:36.55 | KriLL3 | are the fonts in wow really low res or why does it look really pixelated when scaled up? |
| 16:37.10 | |Jelly| | Considering it's an Ace addon, I would assume you could get the latest off the Updater; which isn't updated. |
| 16:37.19 | TS|Skrom | ;-) |
| 16:37.35 | nevcairiel | the page where the updater updates from, is currently down |
| 16:37.47 | KriLL3 | pfff, details |
| 16:38.09 | KriLL3 | just an excuse if you ask me, a server being down shouldn't stop software updating |
| 16:39.49 | KriLL3 | sorry if I ask too many and too widely varied questions, but I'm in the middle of re-building my UI from the ground up, didn't quite like my old UI and now when I got my 22'' LCD with 1680x1050 3000:1 contrast my old one looked both ugly and didn't scale well with widescreen |
| 16:40.14 | Mr_Rabies2 | hrm |
| 16:40.26 | Mr_Rabies2 | does anyone here use photoshop enough to help me out a bit? |
| 16:40.37 | KriLL3 | I'm a photoshop wiz |
| 16:40.41 | Mr_Rabies2 | my crop tool is being a filthy hooker |
| 16:40.47 | Mr_Rabies2 | it won't let me change its shape |
| 16:40.48 | KriLL3 | ? |
| 16:40.55 | KriLL3 | pressing shift? |
| 16:40.56 | Mr_Rabies2 | it keeps to a rectangle shape for some reason |
| 16:40.57 | Mr_Rabies2 | nope |
| 16:41.12 | KriLL3 | press both shifts a couple of times, might be stuck |
| 16:41.36 | Mr_Rabies2 | nope, guess i'll just save my work and relaunch it |
| 16:41.49 | KriLL3 | I think there is option somewhere for it to keep the current dimensions but I dunno where, never used it. |
| 16:41.57 | Kirkburn | A mayor in the US state of Louisiana says he will sign into law a proposal to make wearing saggy trousers an act of indecent exposure. http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/6751777.stm |
| 16:42.09 | KriLL3 | Mr_Rabies: edit->canvas size also works if you don't mind entering numbers |
| 16:42.27 | KriLL3 | Kirkburn: gives fashion police a totally new meaning |
| 16:42.37 | KriLL3 | I guess you saw it on digg? =P |
| 16:42.51 | Kirkburn | BBC News :P |
| 16:43.17 | KriLL3 | it's one of digg's top stories atm |
| 16:44.32 | KriLL3 | Do I need to unzip WoWAceUpdater anywhere in particular? the readme doesn't say. |
| 16:44.45 | cog|work | no |
| 16:44.54 | KriLL3 | oki |
| 16:45.24 | Mr_Rabies2 | hrm, KriLL3 |
| 16:45.27 | KriLL3 | wounder if vista comes with .NET pre-installed... |
| 16:45.30 | Mr_Rabies2 | it still did it until i hit "clear" |
| 16:45.31 | Mr_Rabies2 | on crop |
| 16:45.37 | Mr_Rabies2 | dunno why |
| 16:45.45 | TC-Working | KriLL3, not a problem if you do updates |
| 16:45.46 | KriLL3 | gremlins |
| 16:46.04 | KriLL3 | TC-Working: I do |
| 16:46.12 | TC-Working | then you have all the .net you need |
| 16:46.17 | TS|Skrom | bah |
| 16:46.25 | TC-Working | more .net than a man can handle |
| 16:46.29 | TS|Skrom | why can the default interface dismount me to cast, but not stand me up |
| 16:46.39 | KriLL3 | since the moron's over at m$ gave all OEM brans 1 key each for vista installs... and it's childsplay to enter that one... =P |
| 16:47.29 | KriLL3 | yes this puter is an ASUS OEM, most parts aren't asus and no logo on the box... but it's an ASUS OEM alright... *cough* |
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| 16:49.15 | KriLL3 | nevcairiel: is it possible to hide bartender bars depending on what form you're in, you can page bars using forms but I haven't spotted a hide feature |
| 16:50.13 | KriLL3 | I got 3 bars in caster, and I only use one of them in cat (cat doesn't have more stuff than that) especially since I've merged a couple of buttons using macros |
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| 16:51.37 | KriLL3 | quite ugly having 2 bars above the one I use while in cat especially when I can't use any of the buttons in kitten form |
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| 16:53.12 | KriLL3 | should demonstrate what I'm saying: http://img504.imageshack.us/img504/9740/wowscrnshot061207202800ci0.jpg yes that is my UI in it's current state :( |
| 16:53.29 | TS|Skrom | I think we get the idea ;-) |
| 16:53.44 | TS|Skrom | chances are good he's not thinking about it, he's just afk :p |
| 16:53.49 | KriLL3 | TS|Skrom: like the right portion of the image? =P |
| 16:54.16 | KriLL3 | switching to widescreen isn't something most UIs handle with ease... |
| 16:54.20 | KriLL3 | yeah, true |
| 16:54.31 | TS|Skrom | heh yeah I have the same issues if I copy wtf folder from desktop to laptop |
| 16:54.45 | KriLL3 | odd that my profession buttons and potions aren't shaded, can't use them in forms |
| 16:55.00 | TS|Skrom | that's a freakin' lot of mana pots XD |
| 16:55.12 | KriLL3 | I switched from a 19'' CRT (5:4) to a 22'' LCD (wide) |
| 16:55.17 | KriLL3 | it's a mana potion injector |
| 16:55.21 | KriLL3 | see the small tip? |
| 16:55.25 | TS|Skrom | ohh |
| 16:55.34 | KriLL3 | yeah I inject... |
| 16:55.42 | TC-Working | addict |
| 16:55.42 | TS|Skrom | bear in mind I'm newly returned to the game :p |
| 16:55.52 | KriLL3 | want to make a hp potion injector but no schematics for it on AH |
| 16:56.16 | TC-Working | bad pun TS|Skrom |
| 16:56.23 | KriLL3 | TS|Skrom: you get 20 potions and like 3 fel iron bars and 2 knothide leather and make one, saves space |
| 16:56.24 | TC-Working | ~bitchslap TS|Skrom |
| 16:56.25 | purl | ACTION beats the sh*t out of TS|Skrom |
| 16:56.54 | KriLL3 | can't be used in arena and doesn't have any different cooldown than regular potions though :( |
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| 16:57.33 | dukeku | ~nudity |
| 16:57.50 | TS|Skrom | pun? |
| 16:57.54 | TS|Skrom | holy crap you are right |
| 16:57.59 | TS|Skrom | slap me again >< I deserve it |
| 16:58.25 | TS|Skrom | wasn't even paying attention, windowed in and was being attacked by a black drake XD |
| 16:58.41 | TC-Working | ~bitchslap TS|Skrom |
| 16:58.42 | purl | ACTION beats the sh*t out of TS|Skrom |
| 16:59.08 | KriLL3 | lol |
| 16:59.24 | KriLL3 | I like having 3 monitors, can IRC and wow at the same time without Alt+Tab |
| 16:59.38 | dukeku | i like being sane, i can irc without playing wow |
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| 17:00.11 | KriLL3 | thought my 2 remaining 19'' CRTs look really dim and bland next to my 22'' LCD |
| 17:00.27 | TS|Skrom | oh I'm not tabbing to irc |
| 17:00.38 | TS|Skrom | irc is on the desktop lol I have to window out in case someone walks by though |
| 17:00.52 | KriLL3 | dukeku: I IRC, Browse (FF) and WoW at the same time, sometimes I replace IRC/FF with Photoshop... yes photoshop and wow... |
| 17:01.33 | KriLL3 | but I'm legally insane, so why not? |
| 17:02.02 | TS|Skrom | okay yeah something really weird is happening iwth my cooldown shaders... I click divine favor (2 min cooldown, but isn't expended until I cast a heal spell) and it goes shaded like the cooldown started |
| 17:02.02 | KriLL3 | I've put my webcam on record and fast forwarded through 2~ hours of this kind of activity, my eyes are scary to watch |
| 17:02.37 | TS|Skrom | then I cast the heal. Once the heal is finished casting and the divine favor is consumed the button goes back to normal, no shading texture no cooldown... |
| 17:02.40 | dukeku | <-- at work |
| 17:02.41 | TS|Skrom | odd |
| 17:02.47 | dukeku | i have one 1024x768 monitor |
| 17:02.59 | dukeku | and irc fits in a nice 80x120 char window |
| 17:03.00 | dukeku | :] |
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| 17:37.43 | KriLL3 | love the "Select fastest mirror automatically" button on curse, why does it require that i press download on the addon page and then choose a mirror? why can't it do what it says? auto pick fastest and download... |
| 17:38.16 | Gnarfoz | it selects the mirror automatically |
| 17:38.19 | Gnarfoz | when you tell it to do so |
| 17:38.42 | KriLL3 | should be able to tell it once and then do it always after that |
| 17:41.23 | TS|Skrom | mom just called. My Grandma's sister-in-law (my great uncles wife) died |
| 17:41.33 | TS|Skrom | so he's the last one of that generation left in our family |
| 17:43.44 | KriLL3 | ouch |
| 17:44.10 | TS|Skrom | happens. |
| 17:44.19 | TS|Skrom | she was due to go soon, had real bad alzheimers |
| 17:44.19 | KriLL3 | I still got both my grandmas, one granddad and a great grandma |
| 17:44.43 | KriLL3 | great grandma is 97 |
| 17:44.56 | KriLL3 | still physically active, memory is gone though |
| 17:46.01 | KriLL3 | she can turn a corner, look behind her and be surprised you're there for a visit... kinda hard to live with the knowledge that all you tell her is gone in an hour or less... |
| 17:46.01 | Cairenn|afk | TS|Skrom: very sorry to hear that, my condolences to your family |
| 17:46.05 | KriLL3 | same |
| 17:51.30 | TS|Skrom | Thanks. It was no big suprise and all so that makes it easier. And the fact that she wouldn't even have known ya had you gone and visisted lessons any potential guilt for not spending more time hehe |
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| 17:54.41 | cladhaire | hai CIA-6 |
| 17:56.24 | Tem | what is today's date? |
| 17:56.37 | Cairenn|afk | 14 |
| 17:56.51 | TC-Working | wish it was the 15th |
| 17:56.57 | TC-Working | er...16th actualy |
| 17:57.07 | Tem | I think it /is/ the 15th |
| 17:57.30 | TC-Working | 14 |
| 17:57.45 | Tem | oh finally |
| 17:58.18 | TC-Working | $asctime |
| 17:58.30 | Tem | I've been failing to accept certificates becase my clock was set to 2000 |
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| 17:58.54 | TC-Working | $date |
| 17:58.58 | TC-Working | meh |
| 17:59.19 | TS|Skrom | lol tem |
| 17:59.32 | cladhaire | Luabot has been enabled, prefix a command with lua> to have me run it. |
| 17:59.36 | cladhaire | =os.date() |
| 17:59.42 | TS|Skrom | any time on of my users calls saying they "can't login" to a website and it doesn't give them an error I say "Check your computer's clock" |
| 17:59.47 | Josh_Borke | lua> os.date() |
| 17:59.53 | cladhaire | lua>os.date() |
| 17:59.55 | cladhaire | cladhaire:lua> [string "os.date()"]:1: attempt to call field 'date' (a nil value) |
| 17:59.57 | cladhaire | orly? |
| 17:59.59 | cladhaire | Josh_Borke:lua> [string " os.date()"]:1: attempt to call field 'date' (a nil value) |
| 18:00.01 | cladhaire | lua> date() |
| 18:00.03 | cladhaire | cladhaire:lua> Thu Jun 14 13:59:08 2007, |
| 18:00.05 | cladhaire | there we go |
| 18:00.07 | cladhaire | Luabot has been disabled. |
| 18:00.12 | Tivoli | wow |
| 18:00.16 | Tivoli | disabled =\ |
| 18:04.44 | cladhaire | gimme 2 seconds, i'll enable it in PM's only |
| 18:04.46 | cladhaire | or in specific channels. |
| 18:05.53 | KriLL3 | TS|Skrom: yeah it's best when it isn't sudden and everyone gets time to say farewell and reconcile themselves to the fact, my granddad on my fathers side passed away a couple of months ago but he was on a decline during half a year or so, memory went, blood clots in the brain, etc. |
| 18:06.13 | KriLL3 | everyone in the family knew it was comming |
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| 18:08.27 | KriLL3 | it's natural and normal for old people to die, and when you know it's going to happen it's not as bad, a lot worse when someone young dies suddenly, haven't happened to anyone I know or any of my family luckily enough |
| 18:08.34 | foxlit | CIA-6, help |
| 18:09.57 | foxlit | Isn't that an acebot, anyway? |
| 18:10.28 | KriLL3 | ? |
| 18:10.48 | KriLL3 | "cladhaire>Luabot is disabled in KriLL3, please send requests in #luabot or private message" wtf.. |
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| 18:12.22 | KriLL3 | does eePanels crop a texture that is larger than the panel's size? |
| 18:13.15 | KriLL3 | say I make a 512x512 texture that is actually a 512x300~ texture with a large transparent section to fit teh 2^ rule, does eePanels crop the transparent section if I make it the size of the "actual" texture? |
| 18:13.48 | |Jelly| | pending you have the alpha channel set up correctly, set it to 512x512 and it'll show how you want it to. |
| 18:14.21 | TC-Working | "By default, the icon will stretch to fit the panel. This is because tiling is turned off by default. If you keep tiling off, you'll need to modify the height/width of the eePanel so that it has the same ratio of the texture so that it doesn't look distored." |
| 18:14.33 | KriLL3 | |Jelly| but doesn't that area interact with the mouse? |
| 18:14.57 | KriLL3 | TC-Working: does it crop when in tiled mode? |
| 18:15.00 | |Jelly| | not unless you want it to. By default, the frames are set to background. |
| 18:15.14 | TC-Working | "The background color/opacity/blend mode all affect the texture's visibility. If you know the texture is right (for instance, you're using my icon image above), but can't see the texture, make sure the panel is transparent, or that the blend mode is set how you need it. It's also possible if you have tiling enabled that you've set a tile size so large, you can't actually see the image. Double check these settings. |
| 18:15.19 | |Jelly| | I've never used tiled mode so, I can't answer questions regarding it. 8P |
| 18:15.32 | TC-Working | "Tiling stops the image from stretching. Instead, the image will duplicate itself across the panel as many times as possible, based on the tile size. The tile size will set the size height and width of the texture to whatever pixel size you've entered." |
| 18:15.33 | KriLL3 | can you move the panel outside the rendered area of the game? as in having the transparency in the bottom of the texture and move that down out of view? |
| 18:15.55 | |Jelly| | yeah |
| 18:16.00 | KriLL3 | ah, good. |
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| 18:16.49 | KriLL3 | TC-Working: is that a yes or a no? =P |
| 18:17.01 | TC-Working | for what? |
| 18:17.15 | KriLL3 | does a tiled panel crop the texture if the panel is smaller than said texture |
| 18:17.30 | KriLL3 | way 512x512 texture in a 512x300 panel |
| 18:17.40 | TC-Working | i think so....] |
| 18:17.43 | cladhaire | lua> print("Ace RDX please") |
| 18:17.45 | cladhaire | yay |
| 18:17.59 | KriLL3 | cladhaire: why did you pm me earlier? |
| 18:17.59 | TC-Working | i didnt use tileing that much |
| 18:18.07 | TC-Working | i was just screwing around with it |
| 18:18.07 | cladhaire | KriLL3: script error |
| 18:18.43 | KriLL3 | TC-Working: found something better or just not interested in that aspect of UI customization? |
| 18:18.50 | TC-Working | interestingly enough if you play in windowed mode with 2 monitors, you can drag things outside the WoW window, E.G. you can drag an inventory item to your other monitor |
| 18:18.54 | KriLL3 | cladhaire: "?" was the trigger? |
| 18:19.06 | cladhaire | KriLL3: no, i responded to every single incoming message |
| 18:19.12 | TC-Working | more along the lines of havent gotten around to it |
| 18:19.16 | KriLL3 | TC-Working: it's not rendered though, correct? |
| 18:19.28 | KriLL3 | cladhaire: oh |
| 18:19.38 | TC-Working | whats not rendered? |
| 18:19.46 | KriLL3 | the item you drag to another screen |
| 18:19.55 | KriLL3 | it can't be shown outside the game window, correct? |
| 18:20.11 | TC-Working | well if you let go it dissipears but if your still holding on to it, you can see the icon |
| 18:20.55 | KriLL3 | can you make higher level than bars stuff in eepanels that is click-through ? |
| 18:21.38 | KriLL3 | by level I mean strata ofc |
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| 18:21.50 | TC-Working | depends what you are trying to click i suppose... |
| 18:22.06 | TC-Working | if the thing being clicked is tooltip lvl then maybe |
| 18:22.28 | TC-Working | though you prolly wouldnt see the texture then |
| 18:23.19 | KriLL3 | so you can't make a panel in eepanels that is ignored by the mouse? |
| 18:23.34 | |Jelly| | What are you worried about? |
| 18:23.48 | |Jelly| | You can lock them and make them the background -- your mouse shouldn't ever bother them. |
| 18:23.55 | KriLL3 | I'd like to add some graphics that partially overlap bartender bars |
| 18:24.19 | KriLL3 | like custom frames etc |
| 18:24.47 | TC-Working | yes, you can make a pannel that is ignored by the mouse...but it coudlnt overlap something that you wanted to click |
| 18:24.48 | |Jelly| | You'll have to break them up into more than one frame and set the strata. However, so long as you have the panel locked, I don't see what your mouse could do to bother it. (Unless you're talking about click through, which I've never tested) |
| 18:25.17 | KriLL3 | yeah it's the bar underneath I'm worried about |
| 18:25.33 | KriLL3 | I don't want the mouse to try to click the panel instead of the bar |
| 18:25.35 | |Jelly| | All I can tell you is to test it : / |
| 18:25.49 | KriLL3 | yeah, I'll try it out |
| 18:26.28 | KriLL3 | can you show/hide eePanels using slash commands? |
| 18:26.28 | TC-Working | dont forget you can also set the pannels parent as well |
| 18:26.59 | |Jelly| | You should be able to /script FRAME:Hide() but again, I'm not sure |
| 18:27.16 | KriLL3 | TC-Working: can I make another panel it's parent, or possibly even the frame of another addon? |
| 18:28.00 | KriLL3 | would be neat to have different backgrounds for my bars+chat etc depending on my current druid form |
| 18:28.01 | TC-Working | i dont know what the rules are for parenting...but whatever the standard rulse are i am sure they apply here was well |
| 18:28.26 | KriLL3 | I've made DAF frames children of other addon's frames |
| 18:28.39 | KriLL3 | and when that addon hid it's frame the attached frame was hidden also |
| 18:29.03 | KriLL3 | I got an energy watch addon for catform, would be cool if I could make that the parent of a set of cat textures :> |
| 18:29.10 | KriLL3 | it's hidden when not in catform |
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| 18:46.58 | KriLL3 | is there a good source of UI textures? like the stone WoW uses in many places? |
| 18:47.27 | KriLL3 | I'd like my UI to fit in style with the rest of the game. |
| 18:47.48 | Zeksie | whatever for.. :) |
| 18:47.54 | KriLL3 | ? |
| 18:48.16 | Zeksie | ok. maybe the background tex, but the borders and stuff are tres ugly |
| 18:48.27 | |Jelly| | The stock textures are held in the MPQ files. You'll have to get something to look into them. |
| 18:48.29 | TC-Working | did wowi just go down? |
| 18:48.31 | KriLL3 | agreed, I only want the background texture |
| 18:48.44 | TC-Working | Cairenn|afk? |
| 18:48.53 | KriLL3 | TC-Working: works for me |
| 18:48.57 | Zeksie | just pick a random frame and peek in the xml what it uses.. |
| 18:48.58 | KriLL3 | check your tubes |
| 18:49.07 | TC-Working | well i am talking to you aint i.... |
| 18:49.25 | KriLL3 | might be some kind of magic, might not be your interwebs |
| 18:49.29 | TC-Working | besides i am sitting here on an OC12 |
| 18:49.38 | TC-Working | is it still working for you? |
| 18:49.38 | KriLL3 | OC12 = ? |
| 18:49.43 | KriLL3 | yeah |
| 18:50.01 | TC-Working | OC-12 / STM-4x |
| 18:50.01 | TC-Working | OC-12 is a network line with transmission speeds of up to 622.08 Mbit/s (payload: 601.344 Mbit/s; overhead: 20.736 Mbit/s). |
| 18:50.01 | TC-Working | OC-12 lines are commonly used by ISPs as WAN connections. While a large ISP would not use an OC-12 as a backbone (main link), it would for smaller, regional or local connections. This connection speed is also often used by mid-sized (below Tier 2) internet customers, such as web hosting companies or smaller ISPs buying service from larger ones. |
| 18:50.39 | KriLL3 | why would an ISP carry that much traffic on copper instead of fiber? |
| 18:50.54 | TC-Working | who said it isnt? |
| 18:51.07 | TC-Working | OC = Optical Carrier |
| 18:51.14 | KriLL3 | fiber is generally faster than that |
| 18:51.38 | TC-Working | you pay for the badwith so thay have tiers |
| 18:51.45 | KriLL3 | oh |
| 18:51.45 | TC-Working | you only pay for what you need |
| 18:52.03 | KriLL3 | so it's a rented line, not the ISP's own, got you. |
| 18:52.08 | TC-Working | highest right now is OC-768 / STM-256x |
| 18:52.08 | TC-Working | OC-768 is a network line with transmission speeds of up to 39,813.12 Mbit/s (payload: 38,486.016 Mbit/s; overhead: 1327.104 Mbit/s). |
| 18:52.48 | KriLL3 | TC-Working: wikipedia is a lovely thing :> |
| 18:54.00 | KriLL3 | I got 24Mbit, was having an actual speed of 1~ Mbit earlier this morning, called my ISP and the guy in the other end told me some server near me had crashed and not been restored, did it remotely and my speed was back, would have thought my ISP would have noticed stuff like that... |
| 18:54.40 | KriLL3 | odd feeling having about 90KB/s down and 50KB/s up... |
| 18:55.11 | *** mode/#wowi-lounge [+v Cide] by ChanServ |
| 18:55.56 | TC-Working | http://www.speedtest.net/ |
| 18:59.40 | KriLL3 | 8672/788 best sofar, tired 3 |
| 19:00.13 | Cide | 2473/6972 on the first one for me |
| 19:00.21 | Mr_Rabies2 | holy hell |
| 19:00.27 | KriLL3 | wtf? |
| 19:00.37 | TC-Working | i got 6501/708 |
| 19:00.38 | KriLL3 | you got more upload than download? |
| 19:00.41 | Mr_Rabies2 | i'm at 3000/384 |
| 19:00.45 | Cide | apparently |
| 19:00.48 | Cide | 6972 kb/s upload |
| 19:01.17 | Cide | hahaha |
| 19:01.21 | Cide | to a swedish server I got |
| 19:01.21 | KriLL3 | I'm 9000~/800~ it seems, thought 24Mbit would be faster than that |
| 19:01.27 | Cide | 7771/7119 |
| 19:02.06 | Cide | ah, there we go |
| 19:02.12 | Cide | 12723/8025 |
| 19:02.15 | Mr_Rabies2 | damn you people and your |
| 19:02.19 | Mr_Rabies2 | fast ass internet |
| 19:02.20 | Mr_Rabies2 | :[ |
| 19:02.25 | KriLL3 | Mr_Rabies2: the ISS isn't working atm :( |
| 19:02.33 | Mr_Rabies2 | 6 mbit is about as fast as we can get |
| 19:02.34 | Cide | I am the ISS |
| 19:03.03 | Mr_Rabies2 | i'm pretty sure it's 6/512 too |
| 19:03.23 | KriLL3 | I'm on 24Mbit, ¬35 a month no cap, and my ISP just lowered the cost $10 a month no strings attached and I don't even need do anything... |
| 19:03.29 | TC-Working | heh, going ~7950 mi to Melbourne i got 2869/317 |
| 19:03.44 | KriLL3 | odd that your ISP lowers the price without warning and no reason given... |
| 19:04.00 | Mr_Rabies2 | what types of dollars are though |
| 19:04.02 | Mr_Rabies2 | those* |
| 19:04.10 | KriLL3 | ... Euro |
| 19:04.20 | KriLL3 | no kind of dollar at all |
| 19:04.22 | Mr_Rabies2 | well, you said $ |
| 19:04.28 | KriLL3 | ... meant ¬ |
| 19:04.32 | Mr_Rabies2 | isn't the euro symbol something else entirely :O |
| 19:04.34 | KriLL3 | buttons right next to one another |
| 19:04.38 | KriLL3 | ¬ |
| 19:04.43 | KriLL3 | said ¬ first time |
| 19:04.51 | Cide | €? |
| 19:04.55 | Mr_Rabies2 | that's like a right angle for me, this font must not support the encoding right |
| 19:05.00 | KriLL3 | I guessI got another charset |
| 19:05.08 | KriLL3 | no it's the charset |
| 19:05.12 | Mr_Rabies2 | yeah, cide's works |
| 19:05.30 | KriLL3 | ¬ for me is the euro sign, a C with a = through it or close |
| 19:05.57 | KriLL3 | basically a rounded E with 2 middle pins... so to speak... |
| 19:06.21 | Mr_Rabies2 | yeah |
| 19:06.24 | Mr_Rabies2 | let's see |
| 19:06.30 | KriLL3 | I'm using ISO 8859-10 and you're most likely on UTFS or something like that |
| 19:06.36 | Mr_Rabies2 | so it's 35 Euro a month or 25? |
| 19:06.44 | KriLL3 | 35, was 45 |
| 19:07.20 | Mr_Rabies2 | that's $46.50 a month or so in usd |
| 19:07.23 | KriLL3 | well my nation doesn't use euro but I'm converting for convenience |
| 19:07.40 | TC-Working | convenince for whom? |
| 19:07.47 | KriLL3 | Mr_Rabies2: not really, since US prices hasn't changed to reflect your rapidly plummeting dollar |
| 19:08.12 | Mr_Rabies2 | i dunno, i'm using google's thing, no clue how accurate it is |
| 19:08.17 | KriLL3 | TC-Working: everyone, most don't know the rate of the Swedish Krona (SEK) |
| 19:08.18 | Mr_Rabies2 | i've never even seen a euro |
| 19:08.25 | Mr_Rabies2 | and probably never will |
| 19:08.55 | Mr_Rabies2 | i pay the equivalent of about 26 euros a month, according to google |
| 19:08.59 | KriLL3 | "350 Swedish kronor = 49.43645 US$" |
| 19:09.01 | TC-Working | KriLL3, it was a joke...e.g. why euro and not the holy all american dollar |
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| 19:09.37 | KriLL3 | the US dollar is hard to compare with atm, since it's rapidly declining. |
| 19:10.00 | KriLL3 | and your prices doesn't change to reflect that |
| 19:10.17 | KriLL3 | I'm paying about the equivalent of $30 |
| 19:10.41 | KriLL3 | I know it's tons cheaper than broadband in the US |
| 19:10.44 | Mr_Rabies2 | anyway, 35 a month for 3 mbit is brutal |
| 19:10.57 | KriLL3 | I'm 30 a month for 24Mbit |
| 19:11.00 | KriLL3 | no cap |
| 19:11.17 | Mr_Rabies2 | yeah |
| 19:11.23 | nevcairiel | i want that .( |
| 19:11.26 | TC-Working | me to |
| 19:11.28 | Mr_Rabies2 | infrastructure's a bit harder to manage out here |
| 19:11.29 | Cide | ~$40/mo for 100mbit here (no cap) |
| 19:11.31 | nevcairiel | i am at 3mbit for like 30 |
| 19:11.36 | TC-Working | i have 6mb for about 50 |
| 19:11.39 | Mr_Rabies2 | where's "here" cide? |
| 19:11.43 | Cide | sweden |
| 19:11.53 | nevcairiel | stupid them :( |
| 19:11.58 | Mr_Rabies2 | goddamn you scandinavians |
| 19:11.59 | KriLL3 | Mr_Rabies2: that claim is kinda funny since Sweden is the size of California with 9 million people, and we got 99% broadband penetration |
| 19:12.10 | Mr_Rabies2 | with your blonde hair and your guitar solos |
| 19:12.11 | Mr_Rabies2 | :[ |
| 19:12.29 | KriLL3 | Mine is brown actually |
| 19:12.50 | KriLL3 | we're getting 100Mbit DSL this fall without change in price or connection fee :> |
| 19:13.08 | Mr_Rabies2 | and your cell phones are like, computers |
| 19:13.09 | Mr_Rabies2 | :[ |
| 19:13.12 | KriLL3 | and we don't have an option, the bastards will just upgrade it without even asking. |
| 19:13.15 | TS|Skrom | http://quickfacts.census.gov/qfd/states/06000.html |
| 19:13.16 | Mr_Rabies2 | damn you scandinavia |
| 19:13.25 | KriLL3 | Mr_Rabies2: our phones make the iPhone seem old |
| 19:13.28 | TS|Skrom | 99% is alot easier when it's 25% of your comparison's population |
| 19:13.28 | nevcairiel | KriLL3: sucks to be you, seriously :x |
| 19:14.02 | Mr_Rabies2 | yeah, at&t's rolling FioS out in georgia pretty soon |
| 19:14.10 | Mr_Rabies2 | so i'll hopefully be able to stop bitching |
| 19:14.24 | KriLL3 | "nevcairiel: is it possible to hide bartender bars depending on what form you're in, you can page bars using forms but I haven't spotted a hide feature" |
| 19:14.29 | TC-Working | yea, good stuff 30mb+ for about 15 mo |
| 19:14.32 | KriLL3 | asked that earlier but you wasn't here |
| 19:14.32 | cladhaire | 8-Ball says: "Sure" |
| 19:14.39 | Mr_Rabies2 | the iphone really isnt all that great in the first place |
| 19:15.06 | TC-Working | "JesusPhone" |
| 19:15.13 | KriLL3 | TS|Skrom: it's spread out thus a network that support one area isn't as profitable |
| 19:15.19 | Mr_Rabies2 | i got a phone with mostly better features for 25 bucks wgen i renewed my plan |
| 19:15.23 | Mr_Rabies2 | when* |
| 19:15.53 | Mr_Rabies2 | there's chunks of the US with no broadband at all |
| 19:16.06 | KriLL3 | nevcairiel: is it possible to toggle/hide/show bartender bars using slash commands, aka possible to put showing/hiding bars into macros? |
| 19:16.19 | Mr_Rabies2 | it's just not cost effective to support it out where there's 5 people in a square mile |
| 19:17.09 | KriLL3 | as said, sweden got a very low population density |
| 19:17.23 | KriLL3 | yet most of them are covered |
| 19:17.41 | Mr_Rabies2 | 52 /sq mi |
| 19:17.53 | Mr_Rabies2 | yeah a bit lower than the us's 75 or so |
| 19:18.05 | nevcairiel | KriLL3: hm yeah, BT3Bar1.class:ToggleVisibilty() .. i think |
| 19:18.07 | nevcairiel | not in game |
| 19:18.15 | nevcairiel | replace 1 with your bar number |
| 19:18.27 | KriLL3 | nevcairiel: is there an out right hide function? |
| 19:18.35 | nevcairiel | nop |
| 19:18.56 | nevcairiel | if BT3BarX:IsShown() then toggle end :D |
| 19:19.24 | KriLL3 | so I can put a macro in bar with BT3Bar#class:ToggleVisibilty() inside it, put the bar it hides/shows over that button and all buttons on that bar are macros that does an emote and then hides the bar it's on? |
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| 19:20.03 | KriLL3 | I'm trying to hax a popup menu together =P |
| 19:20.03 | Tem | probably not |
| 19:20.10 | nevcairiel | not in combat |
| 19:20.11 | nevcairiel | anyway. |
| 19:20.12 | Tem | it'll fail in combat |
| 19:20.15 | KriLL3 | don't need it in combat |
| 19:20.32 | KriLL3 | all I use in combat is bound to hotkeys and shown |
| 19:20.42 | nevcairiel | it'll prolly cause a protection error, not sure if i have combat checks there |
| 19:20.46 | KriLL3 | meant to use it for emotes and profession windows etc |
| 19:21.23 | KriLL3 | nevcairiel: can I hide bars depending on what form I'm in btw? |
| 19:21.27 | nevcairiel | nop |
| 19:21.37 | nevcairiel | you can look for a empty bar, and set it to switch to that :P |
| 19:21.41 | KriLL3 | but I can set them to page to an empty bar |
| 19:21.48 | KriLL3 | yeah, done that |
| 19:21.49 | nevcairiel | i didnt really implement showstates |
| 19:21.56 | KriLL3 | but it doesn't support flight form :( |
| 19:22.04 | nevcairiel | only forms where it matters |
| 19:22.20 | KriLL3 | well, I'd like all my bars to go away in flightform, since they're useless there |
| 19:22.33 | KriLL3 | same as all but 1 bar are useless in cat/bear |
| 19:23.47 | nevcairiel | bartender4 will prolly support that |
| 19:23.52 | TS|Skrom | that would seem kinda dangerous to me... don't you ever get put into combat from flight and need to then switch out? When you switched you'd be stuck with no bars... |
| 19:23.53 | nevcairiel | when i actually am in the coding mood again |
| 19:23.54 | KriLL3 | trying to figure out a way to only show certain bars depending on shape, like if statements that check my current form and hide/show bars |
| 19:24.02 | nevcairiel | TS|Skrom: not if done right :) |
| 19:24.08 | KriLL3 | TS|Skrom: I don't switch forms using bars |
| 19:24.16 | TS|Skrom | That's not what I meant. |
| 19:24.34 | KriLL3 | bound keys work on hidden bars |
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| 19:24.43 | TS|Skrom | If you've got everything hidden in flight... get put into combat. Boom stuck with no bars since they can't be shown while in combat. |
| 19:25.05 | KriLL3 | yeah, true enough |
| 19:25.21 | KriLL3 | thought I don't enter combat in flightform |
| 19:25.23 | TS|Skrom | at least that's what I think would happen *shrug* |
| 19:25.25 | nevcairiel | you generally dont get thrown out of flightform |
| 19:25.31 | nevcairiel | so you can fly away :P |
| 19:25.34 | KriLL3 | yeah |
| 19:25.36 | TS|Skrom | lol |
| 19:25.46 | nevcairiel | thats the biggest advantage over mounts |
| 19:25.51 | nevcairiel | no daze-dismount |
| 19:25.52 | nevcairiel | :) |
| 19:26.01 | KriLL3 | and you can re-cast it in mid air |
| 19:26.17 | TS|Skrom | granted I play my druid very little and he's only 24, but I tend to shift alot, I just don't see how I could do it myself |
| 19:26.22 | KriLL3 | thus falling to your death is less likely |
| 19:26.32 | TS|Skrom | the paging is enough for me, I just ignore the bar with my heals on it |
| 19:26.55 | |Jelly| | Is there a way to set bindings for Bartender without having to go through the Keybindings menu? |
| 19:27.04 | TS|Skrom | there used to be :'( |
| 19:27.16 | nevcairiel | keybindings have always been weird |
| 19:27.18 | TS|Skrom | or am I thinking of bongos |
| 19:27.23 | TS|Skrom | I don't know I've used too many XD |
| 19:27.25 | nevcairiel | i really need to get a new way setup |
| 19:27.34 | |Jelly| | Bongos is really easy |
| 19:27.41 | KriLL3 | TS|Skrom: you can page bar to empty once and thus they "vanish" |
| 19:27.45 | TS|Skrom | yeah nevcairiel and add support for more then two bars! |
| 19:27.46 | |Jelly| | ...but I like the fact that Bartender can hide bard until they're hovered over |
| 19:27.51 | nevcairiel | wut? |
| 19:27.58 | |Jelly| | bars |
| 19:28.04 | TS|Skrom | keybindings for more then 2 I mean |
| 19:28.10 | nevcairiel | you can bind all ten |
| 19:28.13 | TS|Skrom | from the keybindings menu I only see bartenderbar1 and bar2 |
| 19:28.13 | nevcairiel | at least i can |
| 19:28.21 | nevcairiel | but ive heard lots of reports that others cant |
| 19:28.21 | KriLL3 | TS|Skrom: I see 10 |
| 19:28.24 | nevcairiel | dont ask me why :( |
| 19:28.27 | TS|Skrom | whoah... I'll have to look again. I really need to download "better keybindings" mod again |
| 19:28.38 | KriLL3 | TS|Skrom: that might be the issue |
| 19:28.50 | TS|Skrom | what? not having that mod? |
| 19:28.58 | KriLL3 | having it |
| 19:28.58 | TS|Skrom | I figure I must be scrolling past them or something |
| 19:29.01 | TS|Skrom | I don't have it |
| 19:29.09 | TS|Skrom | 04[14:28] TS|Skrom: 01whoah... I'll have to look again. I really need to download "better keybindings" mod again |
| 19:29.26 | TS|Skrom | note the words need and again :D |
| 19:29.35 | KriLL3 | thought you meant update |
| 19:29.49 | TS|Skrom | oh hehe |
| 19:30.12 | KriLL3 | btw, I've found the ultimatez screen raiser! http://img509.imageshack.us/img509/2871/20070612557phiw0.jpg |
| 19:30.32 | nevcairiel | heh |
| 19:30.34 | TS|Skrom | :( |
| 19:30.38 | TS|Skrom | I love nwn |
| 19:30.57 | KriLL3 | nwm2... |
| 19:31.19 | TS|Skrom | my love extends to all members of the family |
| 19:31.33 | KriLL3 | hate the controls of both, after playing wow it feels awkward |
| 19:31.44 | KriLL3 | like the story and feel though |
| 19:32.49 | KriLL3 | nevcairiel: does keybinds carry over when you change page? |
| 19:33.25 | nevcairiel | of course |
| 19:33.28 | KriLL3 | that thing to the left of my keyboard is what I play wow with, atm the keys of it are bound using CTBar |
| 19:33.28 | nevcairiel | the bindings are per bar |
| 19:33.30 | nevcairiel | not per action |
| 19:33.53 | KriLL3 | so item 1 on a bar is set to a key, and the page changes the new item 1 is bound? |
| 19:33.59 | nevcairiel | yea |
| 19:34.03 | KriLL3 | nice :> |
| 19:34.08 | nevcairiel | thats the point of paging |
| 19:34.16 | nevcairiel | :) |
| 19:34.32 | KriLL3 | and reducing the needed amount of bars for us shapeshifters/stance changers |
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| 19:35.02 | nevcairiel | i am a druid myself :) |
| 19:35.06 | KriLL3 | was odd though having my main bar vanish when going into stealth, since default + CTmod bars doesn't have pages for stealthed cat |
| 19:35.12 | nevcairiel | heh |
| 19:35.16 | nevcairiel | i liked that feature |
| 19:35.19 | nevcairiel | so i enabled it by default |
| 19:35.29 | KriLL3 | I got macros that change depending on stealth or not |
| 19:35.49 | KriLL3 | got pounce/maim and ravage/shred |
| 19:35.58 | TS|Skrom | hah I googled the name of my addon, and I had gotten linked to a guild forum where someone mentioned the addon for use. That was back when it was still broken. So being the complete loser with a net connection and nothing to do at work I thought I'd login to their server and tell them it's fixed! Well... I've been looking on their site for about 5 minutes and can't find any mention of what server they are on... |
| 19:36.26 | Tivoli | Nurfed bars imo ;) |
| 19:36.27 | nevcairiel | lol |
| 19:36.55 | nevcairiel | people still use nurfed ? :) |
| 19:37.02 | TS|Skrom | I guess they don't expect any random people wanting to join their guild |
| 19:37.35 | N|Tivoli | lots of people still use it |
| 19:37.37 | N|Tivoli | hehe |
| 19:37.45 | KriLL3 | I might need more than 10 bars, can I combine bartender and another bar addon to get a total of more than 10? seems most use some common system thus when I change stuff in one bar the corresponding # on the other bar addon is changed... |
| 19:38.03 | Josh_Borke | no |
| 19:38.07 | KriLL3 | I use some of the root mods nurfed "adopted" |
| 19:38.07 | N|Tivoli | yes |
| 19:38.18 | nevcairiel | at least i havent heard people complain, and half my server runs to me complaining about addon errors |
| 19:38.28 | Josh_Borke | no ids though |
| 19:38.36 | nevcairiel | well there are 120 action ids |
| 19:38.40 | nevcairiel | most mods base on those |
| 19:38.46 | KriLL3 | ok |
| 19:38.56 | nevcairiel | but you could design a system to be independant of those |
| 19:38.58 | KriLL3 | but can I use more than 10 bars if most of the bars are short? |
| 19:39.11 | nevcairiel | depends on the flexibility of the addon :D |
| 19:39.12 | Kaydeethree | you could create 120 1-button bars if you wanted |
| 19:39.14 | KriLL3 | say 3-4 long |
| 19:39.19 | N|Tivoli | yeah, that's what i have built up, the actionbars dont use ids |
| 19:39.20 | KriLL3 | Kaydeethree: how? |
| 19:39.27 | Kaydeethree | depends on the mod |
| 19:39.48 | KriLL3 | I got bartender and bongos, don't seem possible with eihter |
| 19:39.58 | nevcairiel | bongos can do it afaik |
| 19:40.00 | nevcairiel | bartender cant |
| 19:40.03 | nevcairiel | not yet, anyway |
| 19:40.34 | TC-Working | i think DAB could do that |
| 19:40.39 | KriLL3 | I'm trying to make a layout with different sized colums... say 3 ontop and 4 beneath and same total width |
| 19:40.41 | TC-Working | 120 1-button bars |
| 19:41.06 | TC-Working | you had "bars" and "floaters" |
| 19:41.14 | KriLL3 | I'm not going near discord until the author makes a new version, all the current versions are ports of his old and busted once |
| 19:41.26 | TS|Skrom | floaters were great <3 |
| 19:41.51 | TC-Working | but the coding inside them is not bad...or at least the ideas behind it |
| 19:42.06 | KriLL3 | I dunno what progress the author is making, haven't updated the site since January |
| 19:42.19 | KriLL3 | agreed, but big parts of the UI is simply horrible |
| 19:42.19 | nevcairiel | didnt he quit? |
| 19:42.22 | TC-Working | no |
| 19:42.24 | TC-Working | he is back |
| 19:42.27 | nevcairiel | ah |
| 19:42.30 | TC-Working | he was on vacation or something |
| 19:42.32 | nevcairiel | but he quit once iirc :P |
| 19:42.41 | TC-Working | yea, i think so |
| 19:43.16 | TS|Skrom | finally found a clue! |
| 19:43.18 | KriLL3 | I would quit if my addon looked like this: http://www.discordmods.com/DiscordArt/Screenshots/Options1.jpg |
| 19:43.29 | KriLL3 | button/option overload |
| 19:43.36 | TS|Skrom | On their main page is a little tiny box with links, one of them goes to the kilrogg wow forums |
| 19:43.39 | Aella | They obviously worked to make it so confusing, thouhg. |
| 19:43.40 | nevcairiel | discordart was too much imho :) |
| 19:43.41 | Aella | *thouhg |
| 19:43.45 | Aella | **though |
| 19:43.45 | TC-Working | why, pretty it may not be, but it had every option you might want |
| 19:43.53 | Kaydeethree | diff of the latest ptr build's interface up at http://wowi.pastey.net/56871 |
| 19:43.54 | KriLL3 | TC-Working: and more |
| 19:44.01 | Kaydeethree | +ERR_INVITE_RESTRICTED = "Trial accounts cannot invite high level characters into groups."; |
| 19:44.02 | TC-Working | exactly |
| 19:44.02 | Kaydeethree | hrm |
| 19:44.12 | ScytheBlade1 | haha |
| 19:44.13 | ScytheBlade1 | Nice |
| 19:44.19 | TC-Working | it was ment for people who kewn what they were doing, not for noob users |
| 19:44.31 | KriLL3 | the later versions had options for where the textures began and ended, touch it and it goes to hell in a handbasket |
| 19:44.36 | nevcairiel | is there a diff against live somewhere? |
| 19:44.42 | nevcairiel | wdn is out of date :( |
| 19:44.52 | Kaydeethree | I can generate one. gimme a sec |
| 19:44.52 | KriLL3 | TC-Working: well it had a couple of bugs |
| 19:45.04 | TS|Skrom | "tired time" heh |
| 19:45.12 | Aella | What is tired time? |
| 19:45.13 | nevcairiel | tired time sounds like china again |
| 19:45.14 | Aella | >.> |
| 19:45.23 | Aella | Daily quests? |
| 19:45.24 | TS|Skrom | it's what they had before the current rested system |
| 19:45.26 | TS|Skrom | I believe |
| 19:45.30 | nevcairiel | nah |
| 19:45.34 | nevcairiel | its china restriction prolly |
| 19:45.35 | TS|Skrom | back in beta? |
| 19:45.36 | Kaydeethree | no. it's for china |
| 19:45.37 | TS|Skrom | ohh |
| 19:45.38 | Aella | Ah. |
| 19:45.42 | nevcairiel | you cannot play more then x hours |
| 19:45.45 | nevcairiel | or you get tired |
| 19:45.50 | nevcairiel | no loot, no ep |
| 19:45.51 | KriLL3 | wasn't in enabled everywhere due to some bug? |
| 19:45.53 | nevcairiel | no nothing |
| 19:46.22 | nevcairiel | its pretty hard on chinas pve progression tho : |
| 19:46.43 | Kaydeethree | a full diff of live-latest ptr's getting uploaded to wowi.pastey now |
| 19:46.50 | nevcairiel | poor pastey |
| 19:46.55 | nevcairiel | i bet its not so small :) |
| 19:46.57 | Kaydeethree | ~98KB |
| 19:47.00 | Kaydeethree | I've uploaded bigger |
| 19:47.04 | nevcairiel | hehe |
| 19:47.06 | Zeksie | surely they'd just screw it and play on the EU servers.. |
| 19:47.27 | Zeksie | or US, whatever |
| 19:47.29 | [dRaCo] | great, that's what we need. |
| 19:47.40 | nevcairiel | its been in place for like ages |
| 19:47.51 | Zeksie | not saying it's good, but i certainly wouldn't put up with being time restricted. |
| 19:48.08 | Zeksie | then again. i wouldbn't live in china.. |
| 19:48.20 | nevcairiel | china is even still behind a big firewall .. who knows what they put up with |
| 19:48.24 | [dRaCo] | sure, sucks to be a wow player in china, then |
| 19:48.40 | nevcairiel | and i think blizzard still has wow-china on 1.12 |
| 19:48.51 | [dRaCo] | but even more "nihao"-ppl over here? |
| 19:48.56 | ckknight | zhTW is 2.0, I believe |
| 19:49.10 | nevcairiel | yeah it is |
| 19:49.12 | nevcairiel | but zhCN not |
| 19:49.23 | nevcairiel | i got a mail once |
| 19:49.33 | nevcairiel | from a guy who played on zhTW and used bt3 |
| 19:49.45 | nevcairiel | now he switched to zhCN with 1.12 again, and asked if i had a backport |
| 19:49.49 | Kaydeethree | bah. stupid urls in the globalstrings file making me do the validation thing |
| 19:50.50 | TS|Skrom | what's the total limit on # of toons? 60? |
| 19:50.59 | nevcairiel | 50 i think |
| 19:51.00 | Kaydeethree | total number of chars on account: 50 |
| 19:51.11 | nevcairiel | and 10 per server |
| 19:51.29 | TS|Skrom | whoa |
| 19:51.37 | TS|Skrom | look at all the full servers. Someone got graduation presents |
| 19:51.43 | Aella | ? |
| 19:51.55 | nevcairiel | ? |
| 19:52.29 | TS|Skrom | 17 servers listing as "full" and it's 3pm in the heartland |
| 19:52.54 | TS|Skrom | a bit early for prime time anywhere in the us |
| 19:52.56 | nevcairiel | i never bother to check how much servers are full here |
| 19:53.33 | TS|Skrom | oops, didn't scroll far enough |
| 19:53.36 | TS|Skrom | 29 listing full |
| 19:53.42 | TS|Skrom | time for a new server! yay! |
| 19:54.10 | Aella | Doubtful. =P |
| 19:54.13 | Kaydeethree | bah. the pastey check's refusing to work. it's up at http://www.spyglass-server.com/jtwyford/2.1.1.6739-0.1.2.6803.diff |
| 19:54.28 | Kaydeethree | whoever was looking for the full current-latest ptr patch diff |
| 19:54.29 | nevcairiel | thanks |
| 19:54.34 | nevcairiel | i was =) |
| 19:54.45 | nevcairiel | that reminds me |
| 19:54.55 | TS|Skrom | Aella yeah I know :-/ |
| 19:54.59 | nevcairiel | i need to fix some stuff for 2.1.2 release :( |
| 19:55.15 | TS|Skrom | makes me kinda sad. I came to teh party late, just barely started raiding MC when my guild split up then BC came out |
| 19:55.28 | TS|Skrom | I hate missing out on stuff |
| 19:56.02 | nevcairiel | seriously, they should stop re-sorting the global strings |
| 19:56.07 | nevcairiel | always pollutes the diffs :P |
| 19:56.08 | Kaydeethree | ya |
| 19:56.17 | Aella | *shakes fist at GlobalStrings generator program* |
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| 19:58.13 | Aella | Yay optimizations. |
| 19:58.28 | Esamynn | Aella: what did it do to encur your wrath? |
| 19:58.48 | Aella | s/./!/ |
| 19:58.52 | Josh_Borke | wereHamster: ping |
| 19:58.53 | Aella | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=102909657&sid=1&pageNo=3 |
| 19:59.09 | wereHamster | Josh_Borke, pong |
| 19:59.26 | nevcairiel | oh |
| 19:59.30 | nevcairiel | that makes sense |
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| 20:00.51 | Josh_Borke | wereHamster: update coolDown on wowinterface? |
| 20:00.54 | Josh_Borke | with newest zip from wowace? |
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| 20:04.30 | wereHamster | do I really need to? |
| 20:05.24 | Kaydeethree | hey nevcairiel, full list of diffs I've got since I started generating them is at http://www.spyglass-server.com/wowints/ |
| 20:06.08 | Josh_Borke | wereHamster: it includes the bugfix for the duplicating timers is all |
| 20:07.20 | KriLL3 | If I make a 512x512 texture, put it in a 512x512 eePanel what size is it the UI? |
| 20:07.53 | nevcairiel | Kaydeethree: nice :) |
| 20:09.06 | TS|Skrom | nevcairiel I downloaded the latest bt3 off of wowace and I have all the keybindings now |
| 20:10.14 | TC-Working | lolz http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info7252-JooJanta200Super-ChromaticPerilSensitiveSunglasses.html |
| 20:10.21 | Aella | Will someone look at the last part of this and tell me if I'm misremembering? http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=110641745&sid=1 |
| 20:11.10 | KriLL3 | If I make a 512x512 texture, put it in a 512x512 eePanel what size is it the UI? |
| 20:11.47 | Aella | KriLL3: depends on your screen size/UI scale |
| 20:11.57 | KriLL3 | ... great |
| 20:12.02 | TS|Skrom | I remember it that way to Aella. In a castsequence it won't move on til you actually cast it |
| 20:12.08 | Aella | I'd expect a 512x512 texture to be two-thirds of the screen. |
| 20:12.23 | Aella | TS|Skrom: this isn't a /castsequence, though, different rules apply. |
| 20:12.26 | KriLL3 | I'm on 1680x1050 |
| 20:12.30 | Aella | *two-thirds of the vertical screen |
| 20:12.38 | TS|Skrom | yeah just scrolled up |
| 20:12.55 | Aella | Since UI coordinates are adjusted to a height of 768, and I'd expect eePanels coordinates to be UI coordinates |
| 20:13.06 | TS|Skrom | actually I think /cast Ghostly Strike |
| 20:13.09 | TS|Skrom | would work |
| 20:13.37 | TC-Working | KriLL3, http://www.wowwiki.com/UI_Coordinates |
| 20:13.37 | Aella | I seem to remember that fallthrough macros were limited because they made things like /cast Sinister Strike /cast Eviscerate work. |
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| 20:14.03 | TS|Skrom | yep you are right |
| 20:14.06 | TS|Skrom | just tested it |
| 20:14.09 | KriLL3 | Aella: seems 1 failure works |
| 20:14.24 | TS|Skrom | says spell not ready after bop is cast |
| 20:14.28 | TS|Skrom | ./cast Blessing of Protection /cast Seal of Light |
| 20:14.30 | cog|work | KriLL3: it depends on what the first spell is |
| 20:14.51 | Josh_Borke | i thought it depends on if the GCD is triggered |
| 20:15.03 | cog|work | not exactly |
| 20:15.11 | cog|work | it's if the GCD *would be* triggered |
| 20:15.13 | Josh_Borke | blah on you cog |
| 20:15.22 | Josh_Borke | that's what i meant, i should learn to speak |
| 20:15.28 | cog|work | http://www.wowwiki.com/HOWTO:Make_a_Macro#Global_cooldown_.28or:_Multiple_actions_with_one_click.29 |
| 20:15.33 | KriLL3 | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:15.35 | KriLL3 | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:15.36 | KriLL3 | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:15.39 | KriLL3 | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:15.41 | KriLL3 | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:15.46 | KriLL3 | works |
| 20:16.19 | cog|work | that's because they wouldn't trigger the GCD |
| 20:17.08 | KriLL3 | cog|work: well if I'm moving and not in combat and not in outland it wants to use my mount, but uses my travelform when that fails |
| 20:17.12 | TS|Skrom | nevcairiel oddly enough, newest bartender has the shaders working for me again... |
| 20:17.19 | TS|Skrom | I must have had a real old version or something *shrug* |
| 20:17.22 | Aella | Probably works different for items. |
| 20:17.29 | KriLL3 | TS|Skrom: or it's a miracle |
| 20:18.10 | TS|Skrom | lol what am I doing aella I've got a rogue with ghostly strike, I'll go try now |
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| 20:20.01 | TC-Working | new lol fad, http://www.lolbots.com/ |
| 20:20.29 | KriLL3 | new? it's a week old, it's ancient |
| 20:20.44 | TC-Working | yea, i'm not up on the lol fad |
| 20:20.51 | TC-Working | thankfully |
| 20:20.53 | KriLL3 | can you make some bars of an addon round using cycircled, instead of all? |
| 20:21.11 | KriLL3 | TC-Working: I'm in the forefront of lol and meme |
| 20:21.20 | KriLL3 | I'm on the cutting edge |
| 20:21.21 | TC-Working | ~bitchslap KriLL3 |
| 20:21.22 | purl | ACTION beats the sh*t out of KriLL3 |
| 20:21.56 | |Jelly| | ~whalestab TC-Working |
| 20:21.56 | purl | ACTION stabs TC-Working with a rather narrow and pointy whale named Montgomery |
| 20:22.13 | TC-Working | ~whaleparry |Jelly| |
| 20:22.14 | purl | ACTION uses a slightly less-huge but eminently more agile killer whale named Edwardo to parry |Jelly|'s attacks. |
| 20:22.14 | TS|Skrom | okay I don't have Hemorrhage though dangit >< |
| 20:22.22 | TS|Skrom | I did ghostly strike with sinister strike and it did not work |
| 20:22.24 | TC-Working | i swear |Jelly| has that scripted |
| 20:22.30 | |Jelly| | Not yet. |
| 20:22.40 | TC-Working | heh |
| 20:22.58 | cog|work | I can predict the future... Krka is about to tell me LUA is not an acronym.... |
| 20:22.59 | krka | cog|work: Lua is not an acronym. |
| 20:23.19 | TS|Skrom | holy crap cog|work! |
| 20:23.38 | TS|Skrom | What am I thinking in 5 seconds? |
| 20:23.45 | cog|work | >< |
| 20:24.01 | TS|Skrom | (you were supposed to say "that cog|work is amazing") |
| 20:24.16 | TS|Skrom | I'd be so amazed, I'd think you were amazing! |
| 20:24.19 | TS|Skrom | omg win! |
| 20:26.29 | TS|Skrom | That's right, I said "slinks" bet you didn't think a 5'10" 300lb guy could do that didja! |
| 20:27.18 | |Jelly| | http://img524.imageshack.us/img524/2966/wowscrnshot061407142259db3.jpg I did it! |
| 20:27.50 | |Jelly| | ...and shortly after, I made WoW take shots on TGA again. |
| 20:27.52 | Aella | Shiny. |
| 20:28.02 | Osagasu | Okay |
| 20:28.07 | |Jelly| | Oh, It's not exactly original. |
| 20:28.11 | Osagasu | That rep bar is officially bad ass |
| 20:28.18 | Aella | I know, I was here when the sex UI got linked. |
| 20:28.24 | |Jelly| | ahh, ok |
| 20:28.54 | |Jelly| | Osagasu: XPBarNone with the Frost texture |
| 20:29.22 | |Jelly| | And I finally switched to Clique |
| 20:29.24 | |Jelly| | <3 |
| 20:29.47 | cladhaire | lol |
| 20:29.49 | cladhaire | glad it works for you |
| 20:30.14 | |Jelly| | I haven't used it in a group yet...but I set up all the buttons exactly like Healbot was so it should be pretty seamless |
| 20:30.44 | cladhaire | okay, i'm heading home |
| 20:30.44 | cladhaire | bbiab |
| 20:30.51 | |Jelly| | Take it easy |
| 20:31.22 | TS|Skrom | quittin' time here too, later |
| 20:32.06 | |Jelly| | Is there a way to show like generic PerfectRaid bars without being in a raid so I can configure it? |
| 20:32.57 | TC-Working | isnt that no longer being updtaed? |
| 20:33.22 | TC-Working | |Jelly|, http://www.wowace.com/wiki/Perfect_Raid/Commands |
| 20:34.07 | |Jelly| | http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/fileinfo.php?id=4673 *points at author section* |
| 20:34.46 | TC-Working | ah, he just has not updated the ace page |
| 20:34.48 | TC-Working | ok |
| 20:34.59 | |Jelly| | To be honest, I didn't know it was Ace. lol |
| 20:35.17 | TC-Working | if it's ckknight, it's ace |
| 20:35.39 | cog|work | it's not ckknight |
| 20:35.42 | cog|work | and it's not ace |
| 20:35.46 | cog|work | it used to be ace |
| 20:35.47 | TC-Working | oh, clad |
| 20:35.49 | |Jelly| | [15:34]<|Jelly|>http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/fileinfo.php?id=4673 *points at author section* |
| 20:35.54 | cog|work | hence the ace page no longer being updated |
| 20:36.24 | TC-Working | see, thats what i get for not paying attention |
| 20:36.38 | ckknight | |Jelly|: why aren't you in #wowace? |
| 20:36.50 | |Jelly| | *shrug* |
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| 20:37.10 | |Jelly| | I've gotten rather use to the abuse from these guys. Don't really want to start over. lol |
| 20:37.26 | ckknight | lol |
| 20:37.31 | TC-Working | ~abuse |Jelly| |
| 20:37.32 | purl | ACTION smacks |Jelly| across the face. "Take that, sucker!" |
| 20:37.32 | ckknight | but it's a whole different kind of abuse |
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| 20:41.28 | TC-Working | see, now i learned my lesson...i *read* now |
| 20:41.36 | |Jelly| | lol |
| 20:42.03 | TC-Working | i was gonna ask a question but saw it was posted already |
| 20:42.10 | TC-Working | now it's time to bug clad about it |
| 20:43.46 | |Jelly| | How would I make clique allow me to have both a "Helpful" right click (renew) and still be able to say...right click my character to leave a group or change loot? |
| 20:43.56 | TheZanke | Okay, ready for attempt 2 of TheZanke's addon? |
| 20:43.58 | TheZanke | lol |
| 20:44.03 | TheZanke | still on the XML |
| 20:44.13 | |Jelly| | nevermind |
| 20:44.16 | |Jelly| | i = tard |
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| 20:50.35 | KriLL3 | why does an eepanel at 1445 width span my game exactly? |
| 20:50.51 | |Jelly| | Because it's in "units" and not pixels |
| 20:51.00 | |Jelly| | me's thinks |
| 20:51.33 | KriLL3 | 1228/1445 = 0,849826989619 |
| 20:51.42 | KriLL3 | "WoW normalizes all screen resolutions to be 768 pixels high, and then an aspect-appropriate width. Thus any 4:3 screen resolution appears as 1024x768, any 5:4 as 960x768, and 16:10 as 1228.8x768" |
| 20:51.48 | KriLL3 | my UI scale is 85% |
| 20:52.34 | KriLL3 | imagine that... |
| 20:53.02 | KriLL3 | 768*1.15 |
| 20:59.58 | TheZanke | did i reas somewhere that instead of <Offset><AbsDimension x="blah" y="blah" /></Offset> you can just do <Offset x="blah" y="blah" /> ? |
| 21:00.09 | TheZanke | raed* |
| 21:00.12 | TheZanke | read** |
| 21:00.35 | TC-Working | yes, thats the short form |
| 21:00.42 | TheZanke | is that a bad idea? |
| 21:00.46 | TC-Working | some restrictions though |
| 21:00.59 | TC-Working | that i cant tell you...need to read more in clads book |
| 21:01.22 | KriLL3 | how do I resize ZMC stuff? |
| 21:01.38 | |Jelly| | shift+right click, I believe |
| 21:01.50 | KriLL3 | ty |
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| 21:03.18 | TheZanke | hmm i am reading over the STC_options xml and they seem to have a <size> tag where the Ui.xsd doestn allow one... |
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| 21:05.14 | TheZanke | line 449 if anyone can confirm this.. |
| 21:09.39 | TheZanke | http://wowi.pastey.net/56872 |
| 21:09.40 | |Jelly| | Not a day goes by that I don't have to tell a hunter that they need to not go melee. |
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| 21:09.42 | TheZanke | line 15 in that |
| 21:10.13 | TheZanke | can someone look at that cause i shouldnt be there... |
| 21:10.16 | |Jelly| | Welcome back, Clad. 8) |
| 21:10.19 | TheZanke | line 15 |
| 21:10.35 | cladhaire | ty |
| 21:11.13 | |Jelly| | It's specifying the absolute size of the frame |
| 21:12.15 | |Jelly| | This is from WoWWiki but it's in Clad's book too 8P |
| 21:12.17 | |Jelly| | "A size is specified using a Size element with either an AbsDimension or RelDimension child element." |
| 21:12.37 | Cide | it's valid there |
| 21:12.54 | Cide | well, I don't know if it is in the xsd but that's the standard place to put it |
| 21:14.02 | TheZanke | "The element 'Frame' in namespace 'http://www.blizzard.com/wow/ui/" has invalid child element 'Size' in namespace 'http://www.blizzard.com/wow/ui/'. List of possible elements expected: 'TitleRegion, ResizeBounds, Backdrop, HitRextInsets, Layers, Attributes, Frames, Scripts' in namespace 'http://www.blizzard.com/wow/ui/'. |
| 21:14.03 | TheZanke | " |
| 21:14.44 | TheZanke | wouldnt let me copy and paste so i had to retype the message lol |
| 21:15.15 | TheZanke | HitRectInsets* |
| 21:17.20 | KriLL3 | nevcairiel: what was the slash command to show a bartender bar? got the toggle but forgot the show one |
| 21:17.26 | TheZanke | so i Can put it there in mine? |
| 21:17.54 | nevcairiel | KriLL3: a toggle means hide when shown, show when hidden :P |
| 21:18.10 | KriLL3 | well I want something that always shows... |
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| 21:20.47 | zenzelezz | so we're doing Nightbane in my new guild, and the Ventrilo chat turns to Thai shemales... |
| 21:21.06 | |Jelly| | Lunessa <3 |
| 21:21.16 | Lunessa | |Jelly| <3 |
| 21:21.21 | sag_ich_nicht | about fucking time, curator down second try :O |
| 21:21.33 | zenzelezz | grats |
| 21:21.45 | ckknight | zenzelezz: ? |
| 21:21.50 | ckknight | they're ladyboys |
| 21:21.56 | zenzelezz | ckknight: that's part of the discussion |
| 21:21.59 | sag_ich_nicht | zenzelezz thanks. |
| 21:22.01 | sag_ich_nicht | NOW |
| 21:22.10 | sag_ich_nicht | Shirik you there? :O |
| 21:22.12 | ckknight | zenzelezz: or "kathoey" in Thai |
| 21:24.55 | KriLL3 | success, I've made the parent of an eePanel an addon frame that is shown/hidden depending on current form =D |
| 21:25.11 | KriLL3 | (energy watch bar) |
| 21:25.52 | KriLL3 | this effectively means that I can make different themed setups depending on form :> |
| 21:26.36 | Maldivia | hmm, who want to post in the # c CancelPlayerBuff() Issue |
| 21:26.51 | Maldivia | thread with: CancelPlayerBuff("Name of buff") |
| 21:27.05 | TC-Working | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=110562080&sid=1 ? |
| 21:27.18 | sag_ich_nicht | i wann invastigate this whole chatmessage issue |
| 21:27.37 | Maldivia | TC: yeah, why go to all the trouble scanning, whne you can use the string :) |
| 21:27.53 | |Jelly| | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=109971652&sid=1 *pokes Shirik* |
| 21:28.19 | TC-Working | because you use the scan for more than just that? |
| 21:28.52 | TC-Working | e.g. if a buff is there/needs to be buffed...etc. |
| 21:29.19 | Maldivia | well, in the example, they just scan for the buff, to remove it |
| 21:30.04 | Lunessa | Don't you hate when you give someone the exact information they need to do what they want, and they passive-aggressively act to get someone to do it for them? |
| 21:30.39 | TC-Working | Maldivia, did you want someone to post for you? |
| 21:31.06 | Maldivia | annoys me, my posting right are gone again :) |
| 21:31.20 | TC-Working | if you want to give me a block of text i will do it for you |
| 21:31.47 | Maldivia | but doesn't really matter - if you like, post that CancelPlayerBuff can take a string, and that instead of UnitBuff, the player buff method to use is GetPlayerBuffName |
| 21:32.23 | TC-Working | done |
| 21:33.29 | KriLL3 | is there an unit frame addon that got energy watch and druid bar inbuilt so to speak? |
| 21:33.42 | Maldivia | thanks :) |
| 21:33.47 | TC-Working | welcome |
| 21:34.40 | Maldivia | they need to make EU accounts able to post on the US boards :) |
| 21:35.07 | Maldivia | or atleast make it, so old US accounts can still post, if they have had a paying record of say atleast a year :) |
| 21:35.13 | KriLL3 | yeah so we can whine there when ours go down |
| 21:35.36 | TC-Working | why?, is the UE boards not kicking? |
| 21:35.52 | TC-Working | s/UE/EU/ |
| 21:36.31 | Maldivia | the EU interface forums are a joke |
| 21:36.37 | Maldivia | compared to the US |
| 21:37.12 | zenzelezz | true |
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| 21:38.04 | foxlit | Hm, I've got a bug for you US posters to post |
| 21:38.20 | foxlit | Banish Crystal (Ogri'la quest to banish demons in forge camp) highlighting is wrong |
| 21:38.46 | TC-Working | is that it? |
| 21:38.49 | foxlit | It persists as showing it as "castable" even if you don't have the item |
| 21:38.57 | TC-Working | i mean, is that all of what you want osted? |
| 21:39.10 | TC-Working | s/osted/posted/ |
| 21:39.44 | foxlit | Not much more wrong with it |
| 21:40.00 | foxlit | Just appears to act as a status button on whether you have apexis shards |
| 21:40.59 | TC-Working | done http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=110462170&postId=1104625011&sid=1#0 |
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| 21:45.10 | KriLL3 | does anyone know of an addon with a frame that only shows while a druid in in caster form? |
| 21:47.22 | |Jelly| | umm...shit |
| 21:47.29 | |Jelly| | there's a couple that show mana bars |
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| 21:49.04 | |Jelly| | PEPPY! <3 |
| 21:49.12 | Lopeppeppy | Evening, |Jelly|. |
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| 21:50.26 | |Jelly| | I ripped off the sex ui, Peppy! |
| 21:51.39 | Lopeppeppy | I hope it was fun! Sure sounds confusing though.... |
| 21:51.50 | TC-Working | isnt that supposed to be sex*Y* |
| 21:51.51 | nevcairiel | sex has a ui for you? |
| 21:51.54 | |Jelly| | no |
| 21:51.56 | |Jelly| | SEX |
| 21:52.08 | KriLL3 | them powerful word |
| 21:52.13 | TC-Working | that thing had nothing to do with sex |
| 21:52.20 | |Jelly| | Sure it did. |
| 21:52.25 | TC-Working | how so? |
| 21:52.34 | |Jelly| | It just did. Don't ask questions. |
| 21:52.48 | TC-Working | why not? |
| 21:52.56 | Lopeppeppy | If it was powerful, wonderful and excellent... it can be about sex by my book! :) |
| 21:53.16 | TC-Working | your book needs dirtier words |
| 21:54.08 | Lopeppeppy | My book has lotsa dirty works, TC-Working. I trot them out when the occasion is right. ;) |
| 21:54.33 | TC-Working | the ocassion *was* right |
| 21:54.45 | bleeter | wobin__/nom-/any other aussies -> http://www.smh.com.au/ffximage/2007/06/14/1506_cartoon_gallery__470x284,0.jpg |
| 21:54.50 | Lopeppeppy | Well.... if I wasn't there, I can't contribute the right words, now can I? |
| 21:55.03 | TC-Working | you was here, close ehough |
| 21:55.06 | Lunessa | Lopeppeppy I HAZ A BOOK |
| 21:55.08 | TC-Working | enough* |
| 21:55.24 | |Jelly| | I'm proud of it! http://img524.imageshack.us/img524/2966/wowscrnshot061407142259db3.jpg |
| 21:55.27 | |Jelly| | Rip of: http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t74/JackOnTheMap/WoWScrnShot_061307_102424.jpg |
| 21:56.07 | Lunessa | Nicely done. I'm considering doing the same thing. |
| 21:56.28 | N00bZXI | The original is taken from another one I believe |
| 21:56.32 | Lunessa | Or a "battle block" thing |
| 21:56.35 | Lopeppeppy | Teeny weeny tiny. Wow. |
| 21:56.38 | Lunessa | Caith's ui |
| 21:57.43 | TC-Working | hmm..the faiding thing just doesnt get me in that configuration.... |
| 21:57.52 | |Jelly| | I didn't make it for you! |
| 21:58.02 | TC-Working | liar |
| 21:58.06 | Lopeppeppy | I still like.... click buttons, mine is much more cluttered and vile. |
| 21:58.09 | N00bZXI | Let me ask: would this UI be considered minimalistic? http://img480.imageshack.us/img480/6779/wowscrnshot061007210521bg9.jpg |
| 21:58.24 | TC-Working | no, there are things on the screen |
| 21:58.35 | N00bZXI | OK, seriously |
| 21:58.38 | |Jelly| | not to me |
| 21:58.42 | Lopeppeppy | Yup. Things on the screen. I've seen far more minimal. |
| 21:58.46 | TC-Working | atl+z = minimalistic |
| 21:58.54 | |Jelly| | I mean, it's more minimal than mine...but really... |
| 21:59.07 | Lopeppeppy | People who hide all their bars and use keybindings only.... that's getting there. |
| 21:59.22 | N00bZXI | I.. did.. but then I had to use CDT for cooldowns |
| 21:59.27 | N00bZXI | and then it was even less minimalistic |
| 21:59.27 | Lunessa | Minimalism is the idea of putting the most function into the least number of visibile elements. |
| 21:59.38 | TC-Working | this is a little closer to minimal http://ctscreens.net/7506 |
| 21:59.51 | Lopeppeppy | I don't go near minimalism, I think it's like... some heretical concept or something. |
| 21:59.52 | bleeter | is it just me, or do others parse the 'F' in 'FCT' for something other than 'Floating'? |
| 22:00.00 | TC-Working | heh |
| 22:00.03 | N00bZXI | TC-Working: That's not in combat, or in a group |
| 22:00.08 | N00bZXI | Hence it appears more minimal |
| 22:00.34 | Lopeppeppy | I'm more used to SCT, bleeter... everyone knows what "F" means in an acronym. |
| 22:00.42 | TC-Working | fun |
| 22:00.51 | Lopeppeppy | Fragilistic |
| 22:01.00 | foxlit | F(ps killing) Combat Text |
| 22:01.34 | TC-Working | Flying Combat Text |
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| 22:01.42 | Osagasu | loating? |
| 22:01.45 | bleeter | Freakin-ace-ify-this-already Combat Text |
| 22:01.56 | TC-Working | FACEIFY> |
| 22:01.58 | TC-Working | ?* |
| 22:02.01 | Osagasu | I thought it already was? |
| 22:02.05 | Lunessa | <Entering Combat> |
| 22:02.19 | Lunessa | <Leaving Combat> |
| 22:02.25 | TC-Working | heh |
| 22:02.35 | bleeter | Lopeppeppy: so if I parse the F in FCT as 'fucking', you can imagine what I parse the S in SCT as ;) |
| 22:03.24 | Lopeppeppy | Everyone has fun their own way, bleeter! |
| 22:03.35 | Lunessa | Put the Bong and the pr0n down and back away slowly. |
| 22:03.38 | bleeter | WTB: [IV Drip of Coffee] |
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| 22:04.04 | N00bZXI | Cleaner shot of the same UI: http://img389.imageshack.us/img389/3681/wowscrnshot061407150325cu4.jpg |
| 22:04.07 | bleeter | I think Lunessa mistakes me for someone half my age |
| 22:04.31 | |Jelly| | It's not hard to be a minimalist when you're not doing anything.. |
| 22:04.41 | Lunessa | No, but if F and S parse *evocatively* every time... |
| 22:05.01 | N00bZXI | |Jelly|: My point exactly. |
| 22:06.18 | Lopeppeppy | Yes, N00bZXI... I think that one will qualify as minimalist OOC. |
| 22:06.44 | N00bZXI | Anything I could change to make it qualify in-combat? |
| 22:07.28 | Cide- | I'm confused by the fact that you're asking people if your ui is minimalistic |
| 22:07.35 | Lunessa | All I want is to figure out how to make my F'ing Nostromo n52 speedpad work. |
| 22:07.51 | Cide- | if you like it - good! |
| 22:08.10 | N00bZXI | Cide-: I always look for ways to improve my UI.. hence why I ask |
| 22:08.44 | Cide- | is 'more minimal' = 'better'? |
| 22:08.49 | Cide- | at all times? |
| 22:09.20 | N00bZXI | At all times - no, but sometimes - yes. |
| 22:09.28 | Lopeppeppy | Sometimes, the combat UI just HAS to be a bit more active. Especially for a class that can heal -- that was a priest, right? |
| 22:09.43 | N00bZXI | Yep. |
| 22:09.48 | Lopeppeppy | Even a shadow priest needs the party visible, just in case you need to hop in as main healer. |
| 22:10.00 | Lopeppeppy | My rogue can get away with a LOT less than my healadin can.... nature of their role. |
| 22:10.54 | N00bZXI | Even as a rogue I generally need party UF's |
| 22:10.59 | N00bZXI | purely so I can see what's going on better |
| 22:11.31 | Lopeppeppy | I like to have them up as well, so I see when my healer stealz da aggroz and go get it from them. |
| 22:11.37 | Lopeppeppy | Stealing is my job, after all.... |
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| 22:20.58 | TC-Working | "(15:09:48) (Lopeppeppy) Even a shadow priest needs the party visible, just in case you need to hop in as main healer." Pfft, if they need healing, they gonna die |
| 22:21.24 | bleeter | wow, the focussed testing on PTR.... |
| 22:21.26 | bleeter | " |
| 22:21.27 | bleeter | The latest PTR build (6803) introduced a fix for many of the targeting issues players were reporting in the 2.1 builds (can not target through obstacles, can not tab target etc)." |
| 22:21.39 | Lopeppeppy | Whee. |
| 22:21.49 | bleeter | fixing targetting through obstacles? HELLO! THEY'RE OBSTACLES! |
| 22:21.50 | N00bZXI | TC-Working: PW:S |
| 22:22.27 | TC-Working | yes, but that alnoe hardly makes you be able to main heal |
| 22:22.32 | TC-Working | alone* |
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| 22:23.19 | kergoth | so glad they're fixing that |
| 22:23.48 | Lopeppeppy | No, but it's hard to main-heal if you can't see them, too. *shrug* First part of being a good healer is having a UI that gives you the information YOU need to do your job well. YMMV on what those variables mean though. |
| 22:25.02 | TC-Working | i was talking about being an SP in a party |
| 22:25.10 | TC-Working | or raid |
| 22:25.30 | afk|n00bzxi | Dunno bout other people but I shield people as a spriest if there's need |
| 22:25.40 | afk|n00bzxi | ..and I forgot to mark myself as not-afk |
| 22:25.49 | Lopeppeppy | I've seen shadow priests main heal, I've seen not. *shrug* |
| 22:26.06 | N00bZXI | A shadowpriest cannot mainheal in shadowform |
| 22:26.09 | TC-Working | verry cool http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nUDIoN-_Hxs |
| 22:26.40 | Lopeppeppy | Didn't say they could, N00bZXI. |
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| 22:32.04 | Wraanger | heyaz |
| 22:32.32 | Lopeppeppy | evening |
| 22:33.22 | N|Tivoli | N00bZXI depends on the fight ^^ |
| 22:34.22 | Wraanger | ohh..Tivoli .....question for you ;) |
| 22:34.25 | N|Tivoli | ? |
| 22:34.25 | zenzelezz | recall the 5-man Loatheb? |
| 22:34.29 | N|Tivoli | yeah |
| 22:34.43 | Wraanger | any news with that question of mine about VERY old-style Nurfed HUD ? |
| 22:34.44 | N|Tivoli | you can do it on any fight with increased damage |
| 22:34.46 | Wraanger | :))))) |
| 22:35.12 | N|Tivoli | yeah, i just haven't made a layout with the images, been working on the new frames menu ^^ |
| 22:35.40 | Wraanger | also a (I understand that it is bugging ) question about when frame menu will be implemented ) |
| 22:35.58 | Wraanger | it's the only thing atm stopping me from trying to build a new UI with Nurfed |
| 22:37.11 | N|Tivoli | soonish ^^, i've been working on Rupture project lately though |
| 22:37.33 | sag_ich_nicht | meh |
| 22:37.40 | sag_ich_nicht | I want a "last seen" tracker for the friendlist |
| 22:37.41 | N|Tivoli | spriest healing on netherspite is hot ^^ |
| 22:37.44 | sag_ich_nicht | like there is for the guildlist |
| 22:37.45 | sag_ich_nicht | >< |
| 22:38.09 | sag_ich_nicht | someone go suggest it on the US forums for me, everyone knows blizz doesn't read the EU UI forums >.> |
| 22:38.11 | Wraanger | will be looking forward to iy |
| 22:38.14 | Wraanger | it* |
| 22:39.31 | TC-Working | ~poke |Jelly| |
| 22:39.32 | purl | ACTION cuts down a small tree, sneaks up behind |Jelly|, pokes |Jelly| repeatedly, hilarity ensues. |
| 22:39.33 | |Jelly| | ? |
| 22:39.36 | TC-Working | see, much better |
| 22:39.45 | sag_ich_nicht | |Jelly| you seem to be spamming on the UI forums anyway |
| 22:39.56 | sag_ich_nicht | so go post that for me in the UI suggestions thread :P |
| 22:40.09 | TC-Working | |Jelly| & Lopeppeppy are huge spammers |
| 22:40.23 | TC-Working | and Aella |
| 22:40.31 | TC-Working | and Lunessa |
| 22:40.46 | Lopeppeppy | I adore spam, I want to go to Hawaii and see the McDonalds that sell spamburgers. |
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| 22:41.03 | TC-Working | ~lart Lopeppeppy |
| 22:41.03 | purl | blasts Lopeppeppy with a huge firehose then strangles Lopeppeppy with it |
| 22:41.07 | Lunessa | Totally. Now that I'm past the filters, I can begin selling cheap Viagra on the UI Forum. |
| 22:41.30 | TC-Working | pfft, what filters |
| 22:42.10 | Lopeppeppy | The ones that block all of the repeat keylogger sites, of course! |
| 22:42.21 | KriLL3 | Lopeppeppy: burgers with spam spam spam spam egg spam spam spam spam spam fries dipped in spam spam spam spam spam and bacon? |
| 22:42.29 | sag_ich_nicht | EXCELLENT. my new cooling fans are here |
| 22:43.31 | |Jelly| | Umm. I haven't posted on the forums really at all today. |
| 22:43.39 | KriLL3 | ohnoes |
| 22:44.24 | sag_ich_nicht | | |
| 22:44.27 | sag_ich_nicht | *| |
| 22:44.30 | sag_ich_nicht | wait |
| 22:44.32 | sag_ich_nicht | what is this |
| 22:44.34 | sag_ich_nicht | ah there |
| 22:44.42 | sag_ich_nicht | |Jelly| well now you have a reason to :P |
| 22:44.43 | TC-Working | *snicker* "God made man and rested, God made woman and never rested." |
| 22:44.46 | sag_ich_nicht | it'd be a really useful feature |
| 22:45.03 | Lopeppeppy | Rest? |
| 22:45.29 | sag_ich_nicht | and it can only be implemened properly by blizz(because of offline tracking) >.> |
| 22:45.35 | sag_ich_nicht | *implemented |
| 22:45.36 | sag_ich_nicht | gah |
| 22:45.49 | KriLL3 | women don't get exhausted, they exhaust others, women never pay too much money, they make others pay too much money. |
| 22:46.14 | Lopeppeppy | And males all have pickled krill for brains? |
| 22:46.24 | zenzelezz | <TC-Working> *snicker* "God made man and rested, God made woman and never rested." <--- I would much rather be busy with women than men |
| 22:46.29 | Lopeppeppy | Neither statement is true or false, nor to the point. |
| 22:46.31 | KriLL3 | the nick is "Krille" actually |
| 22:46.37 | sag_ich_nicht | okay |
| 22:46.41 | sag_ich_nicht | stop this discussion |
| 22:46.42 | sag_ich_nicht | right now |
| 22:46.53 | zenzelezz | don't assume control of the channel |
| 22:46.55 | TC-Working | ~mute sag_ich_nicht |
| 22:46.56 | purl | ACTION surgically removes sag_ich_nicht vocal chords and feeds them to the local pygmies |
| 22:46.57 | zenzelezz | Cairenn will smack you for it |
| 22:47.04 | sag_ich_nicht | else i'm going to start missing someone i know again >.> |
| 22:47.08 | sag_ich_nicht | and that would be bad >.> |
| 22:47.35 | TC-Working | zenzelezz, maybe, but not 24/7 |
| 22:47.47 | zenzelezz | why do you think I keep mentioning her name? |
| 22:48.21 | zenzelezz | and no, it's not just because I'm obsessed! |
| 22:49.36 | TC-Working | every 3 sec zenzelezz, every 3 |
| 22:59.17 | sag_ich_nicht | i'd really like a PlayerLastSeen() function >< |
| 22:59.32 | Corrodias | tonight, we attempt gruul's lair |
| 22:59.55 | zenzelezz | first time? |
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| 23:00.00 | Corrodias | yep |
| 23:00.08 | Corrodias | at least for most of us |
| 23:00.09 | zenzelezz | hehe, have fun :-) |
| 23:00.13 | zenzelezz | Maulgar is a cool fight |
| 23:00.44 | Lopeppeppy | I enjoyed my first time dying in there last night. :) |
| 23:00.56 | Corrodias | i expect to have plenty of dying |
| 23:01.05 | sag_ich_nicht | someone go request it for me >.> |
| 23:01.06 | Corrodias | gotta buy all sorts of potions! |
| 23:01.11 | sag_ich_nicht | all sorts of? |
| 23:01.12 | sag_ich_nicht | well |
| 23:01.15 | sag_ich_nicht | you can either get a flask |
| 23:01.19 | sag_ich_nicht | or a guardian and a combat |
| 23:01.20 | zenzelezz | the first part to get right is the pull =D |
| 23:01.24 | sag_ich_nicht | it's not like you have much of a choice :P |
| 23:01.30 | Lopeppeppy | My fondest dreams are of smashing every G15 keyboard in the universe, so no one asks the "is this legal" question again. |
| 23:01.43 | Corrodias | flasks look too weak :( |
| 23:01.43 | cladhaire | 8-Ball says: "ROTFL" |
| 23:01.48 | sag_ich_nicht | My Model M > every G15 |
| 23:01.53 | Corrodias | 500 hp and 10 defense... meh |
| 23:02.01 | zenzelezz | agreed |
| 23:02.22 | sag_ich_nicht | maybe cladhaire is willing to post the request for me >.> |
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| 23:03.48 | cladhaire | ? |
| 23:04.00 | sag_ich_nicht | slouken is probably going to deny it, but i'd like to see a PlayerLastSeen() function(maybe if he doesn'make it so it only works on players who have you on their flist, then he'd have no real reason to deny) |
| 23:04.05 | sag_ich_nicht | damn enter key |
| 23:04.08 | sag_ich_nicht | lemme re-type that |
| 23:04.49 | sag_ich_nicht | slouken is probably going to deny it, but i'd like to see a PlayerLastSeen() function(maybe if he doesn't like the whole idea make it so it only works on players who have you on their flist and you them, then he'd have no real reason to deny it, it already kind-of-exists for guildmembers) |
| 23:04.56 | zenzelezz | last time *you saw them* online, or last time they *were* online? |
| 23:05.04 | sag_ich_nicht | they *were* online |
| 23:05.17 | sag_ich_nicht | the last time *you* saw them wouldn't really require an API change |
| 23:05.19 | sag_ich_nicht | just addon coding |
| 23:05.34 | zenzelezz | then you could just /friend someone, and the "on your friends list" would be a moot point |
| 23:05.40 | sag_ich_nicht | no |
| 23:05.42 | sag_ich_nicht | i mean |
| 23:05.48 | sag_ich_nicht | ...just read my sentence again :P |
| 23:06.08 | sag_ich_nicht | mutually :P |
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| 23:06.43 | ckknight | anyone want some KTM drama? |
| 23:06.44 | zenzelezz | I don't quite see the point, but that's personal opinion |
| 23:06.50 | Lopeppeppy | Yeeps. I wouldn't put anyone on my friends list! |
| 23:06.59 | ckknight | http://www-en.curse-gaming.com/downloads/details/4204/#comment_268682 |
| 23:07.12 | sag_ich_nicht | [01:06] <Lopeppeppy> Yeeps. I wouldn't put anyone on my friends list! <--pff, why not? :P |
| 23:07.44 | sag_ich_nicht | maybe you should distinguish between friend and peer ;P |
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| 23:08.30 | Lopeppeppy | Maybe my friends list is large because I use it to track pickups for my raid group? |
| 23:08.49 | Lopeppeppy | I wouldn't want to share the "when I was last on" with that many people, however... so it would get shorter in a wicked hurry. |
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| 23:09.19 | Lunessa | Yeah, there aren't categories. The Friends List is a weak subsititue for a 'network' |
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| 23:09.56 | Lopeppeppy | I tend to lose my little pieces of paper with names and info on them.... so I just suck it up with my Friends List. |
| 23:10.07 | KriLL3 | is there an addon that lets you add categories? with tabs or something like that? and you can set what categories (if any) you want notifications on online/offline |
| 23:10.09 | sag_ich_nicht | Lopeppeppy: there are addons for that ;P |
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| 23:10.29 | sag_ich_nicht | or at least i guess there are |
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| 23:10.36 | KriLL3 | I got tons of crafters in my buddy list, they're not buddies... |
| 23:10.54 | Lopeppeppy | I know, sag. I use some, but then again the utility isn't there, so I go back to my notes, then I try one again.... I'm not quite happy with my networking options IG. |
| 23:10.56 | sag_ich_nicht | but maybe someone should go ahead and post a request for that API function _and_ a bit of a rework of the friend system :O |
| 23:11.01 | bleeter | lol, "buddy list" |
| 23:11.15 | sag_ich_nicht | also |
| 23:11.33 | bleeter | sorry the term amuses me, I'm suprised there wasn't a lawsuit over that term as well /sigh |
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| 23:12.19 | N00bZXI | note to self: Make sure your frames's parent is UIParent not WorldFrame |
| 23:12.27 | sag_ich_nicht | lol |
| 23:12.41 | ckknight | bad N00bZXI |
| 23:12.43 | ckknight | no banana |
| 23:13.08 | Lopeppeppy | I like your notes better than mine, N00bZXI. Seems like you'd understand that the next day, versus "Keeta htr green" |
| 23:13.12 | KriLL3 | I pay you Tuesday for banana today? |
| 23:13.30 | Mike-N-Go | banna: Hello? |
| 23:14.37 | N|Tivoli | What's Beethoven's favorite fruit? Bananana |
| 23:14.48 | N00bZXI | this is what happens when I'm too lazy to type ',nil,UIParent' |
| 23:14.50 | KriLL3 | is that why he went blind? |
| 23:14.52 | N00bZXI | :\ |
| 23:14.56 | N|Tivoli | haha |
| 23:15.02 | N|Tivoli | potassiam poisoning ^^ |
| 23:15.08 | KriLL3 | if you stroke the banana too much you go blind |
| 23:15.26 | Lopeppeppy | And the banana bread comes out all wrong. |
| 23:15.42 | Lopeppeppy | I keep reading "heroin" in this thread title.... http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=110642312&sid=1 |
| 23:16.40 | KriLL3 | what do you see in hp/mana portion injectors? |
| 23:17.08 | TC-Working | "(16:15:08) (KriLL3) if you stroke the banana too much you go blind" Why do you think so many people wear glasses |
| 23:18.19 | KriLL3 | makes you look smarter |
| 23:18.58 | KriLL3 | is there a good place to go for really specific eePanels questions? |
| 23:19.30 | TC-Working | http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=3141.msg95834 |
| 23:19.48 | KriLL3 | I get errors at reloadui/relogin with frames with other frames as parents/other addon's frames... works while I don't reload/relogin perfectly, but not after... |
| 23:20.18 | KriLL3 | I clicked it |
| 23:20.47 | KriLL3 | yay another mf:ing forum to register at, giev univeral forum user :< |
| 23:21.07 | KriLL3 | TC-Working: can I haz cheezburger? |
| 23:21.58 | Lopeppeppy | Hugz tiem now. |
| 23:22.11 | TC-Working | NOWAI KTHX |
| 23:23.08 | Lopeppeppy | *sniff* |
| 23:23.24 | Lopeppeppy | Cute redhead gnome looking for fellow rogue for gankage, must enjoy hugz tiem. |
| 23:23.40 | sag_ich_nicht | you know |
| 23:23.44 | sag_ich_nicht | you should liek |
| 23:23.45 | sag_ich_nicht | add the gender |
| 23:23.49 | sag_ich_nicht | that might help the search. |
| 23:24.14 | Lopeppeppy | Like gender matters to pixels? |
| 23:24.19 | KriLL3 | I don't hug rogues, especially not gnomes, get back pains if they're not standing on a barrel... |
| 23:24.35 | Lopeppeppy | So bring a barrel, or let them chop off your kneecaps a bit. |
| 23:25.05 | KriLL3 | then I switch to stroeng baer and topple the barrel and eats them |
| 23:25.17 | TC-Working | gnomes....never did get them |
| 23:25.55 | KriLL3 | midgets needs some representation in the game |
| 23:26.13 | |Jelly| | *hugs* Peppy. It's ok. |
| 23:26.14 | Lopeppeppy | Word. Yo. And stuff. |
| 23:26.20 | Lopeppeppy | Jelly still luvs me. |
| 23:27.38 | |Jelly| | <3 |
| 23:27.42 | Lunessa | I R NOT ROGUE, but I liek hugz tiem. |
| 23:27.45 | |Jelly| | Sorry. Healing on new UI = weird |
| 23:28.24 | |Jelly| | Now I'm really not trying to start an argument by asking this but how does Omen stack up agains KTM? |
| 23:29.18 | N|Tivoli | how far along is omen now? |
| 23:29.20 | |Jelly| | I mean, I know it's all theory but KTM seemed pretty close. |
| 23:29.41 | ckknight | stack up how? |
| 23:30.22 | KriLL3 | best frame name ever: FuBarPlugincyCircledFrameMinimapButton |
| 23:30.29 | |Jelly| | accuracy, mainly |
| 23:30.39 | |Jelly| | I'm looking to have it replace KTM |
| 23:30.50 | |Jelly| | ...since I'm not dps nor tank, it doesn't matter if they can't see me. |
| 23:31.11 | KriLL3 | KTM? |
| 23:31.17 | ckknight | as far as accuracy goes, Threat-1.0 (which Omen uses) has an upper-hand by being target-based, unlike KTM |
| 23:31.20 | ckknight | Kenco's Threat Meter |
| 23:31.59 | cladhaire | actually isn't its KLHThreatMeter? |
| 23:32.00 | ckknight | as far as overall accuracy, KTM might be currently more accurate, but it's rather slight, and expect it to be more even within a week or so |
| 23:32.06 | ckknight | cladhaire: yea, that's it |
| 23:32.08 | Mr_Rabies2 | plus it doesn't eat tons and tons and tons of resources |
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| 23:32.32 | Lopeppeppy | KQT... KTH.... I gets confused. My tanks like my rogue to run it, so I plug it in and let it do the thing up in the corner. |
| 23:33.00 | ckknight | I'm not fond of KTM's CPU usage |
| 23:33.17 | ckknight | I just did a rant on the curse comments about optimization wrt KTM |
| 23:33.18 | Cide | should ace it.. oh wait |
| 23:33.28 | ckknight | lol |
| 23:33.37 | ckknight | KTM_CTAceMos |
| 23:33.48 | cladhaire | not so much |
| 23:34.12 | ckknight | ah, you're right |
| 23:34.13 | |Jelly| | So it's a replacement for KTM currently, ? |
| 23:34.26 | ckknight | KTM_DongCTAceMos |
| 23:34.33 | ckknight | |Jelly|: yes |
| 23:34.36 | cladhaire | no. |
| 23:34.39 | |Jelly| | kk. thank you 8) |
| 23:34.41 | ckknight | |Jelly|: well, roughly |
| 23:34.52 | ckknight | |Jelly|: if you're MT, I'd be wary |
| 23:34.55 | Lopeppeppy | And does the same thing with KTM that oRA does with CT -- mimics and reports across, right? |
| 23:34.58 | ckknight | just in case. |
| 23:35.09 | ckknight | Lopeppeppy: it listens, doesn't speak |
| 23:35.15 | |Jelly| | I'm a healer. lol |
| 23:35.20 | Lunessa | Gentlemen, choose your seconds and weapons. |
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| 23:35.31 | |Jelly| | Any prospects on making it talk too? |
| 23:35.41 | ckknight | Lopeppeppy: seeing as it's not global-threat based and instead target-based, talking back to KTM is ...absurd |
| 23:35.55 | ckknight | and would be inaccurate due to KTM being inaccurate by nature |
| 23:36.04 | Cide | can you copyright protocols? =/ |
| 23:36.04 | KriLL3 | nice that all fubar plugins have a minimap button named "/move FuBarPlugin(name)MinimapButton" |
| 23:36.07 | cladhaire | over-hyped feature |
| 23:36.25 | ckknight | Cide: don't think so, that falls into the realm of trade secrets and patents |
| 23:36.26 | KriLL3 | not redundant at all... |
| 23:36.35 | Cide | ah, true |
| 23:36.43 | ckknight | Cide: though a copyright charge could come against for "reverse engineering" the original code |
| 23:36.57 | ckknight | but if it's done in China-room style, that's a non-issue |
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| 23:37.12 | ckknight | KriLL3: what else would they be called? |
| 23:37.42 | ckknight | KriLL3: the frame is created by FuBarPlugin, it is a MinimapButton, and needs to be unique based on the addon |
| 23:37.54 | cladhaire | The issues with KTM were over-hyped, Omen is cool and all, but hardly usable right now unless you suck at DPS, aren't a healer, or aren't the main tank. |
| 23:38.03 | Lopeppeppy | Listening is good, ckknight. In this case with this mod, I run it to make my tanks happy, not for myself. |
| 23:38.10 | |Jelly| | Well. I am a healer. 8P |
| 23:38.21 | cladhaire | yeah, omen not so much |
| 23:38.26 | KriLL3 | "FuBarPluginBartender3FrameMinimapButton" just seems... well... redundant =P |
| 23:38.40 | Cide | why? |
| 23:39.13 | KriLL3 | FuBartender3Button <- more to the point, so to speak. |
| 23:39.26 | ckknight | but there's no point. |
| 23:39.29 | Cide | ya, but doesn't really go with the inheritance scheme |
| 23:39.31 | ckknight | just deal with it |
| 23:39.41 | ckknight | Lopeppeppy: then you should either keep KTM or convince your tanks to use Threat-1.0 |
| 23:39.50 | Cide | FuBarPlugin -> FuBarPluginBartender3Frame -> FuBarPluginBartender3FrameMinimapButton, likely |
| 23:40.04 | KriLL3 | nope |
| 23:40.14 | KriLL3 | It's parent is Minimap |
| 23:40.19 | ckknight | that doesn't matter. |
| 23:40.25 | ckknight | Cide's right. |
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| 23:41.38 | N00bZXI | KTM runs too much onupdate |
| 23:41.51 | Cide | how so? |
| 23:42.16 | ckknight | N00bZXI: fix your code in the comment |
| 23:42.30 | cladhaire | N00bZXI: It polls.. that's not a bad design for what it does. |
| 23:42.45 | cladhaire | N00bZXI: and it hardly does "too much" |
| 23:43.30 | Cide | some people like to perpetuate the incorrect myth that onupdate is bad |
| 23:43.34 | ckknight | the top and bottom line aren't in the code block |
| 23:43.40 | cladhaire | and make an uproar in curse comments |
| 23:43.41 | cladhaire | its fun |
| 23:44.16 | Lunessa | To quote my favorite imp, "This is not in mu contract." |
| 23:46.15 | Lopeppeppy | "Why can't we all just get along?!" |
| 23:46.58 | KriLL3 | It's fun to move something using moveanything, then move the mover of the moved object using the same addon |
| 23:46.59 | cladhaire | Shirik: I'm waiting. |
| 23:47.02 | Lunessa | "I ... must ... feed." |
| 23:47.13 | KriLL3 | Lunessa: bananana? |
| 23:47.37 | TC-Working | yall are weird |
| 23:47.43 | Lunessa | YESPLZKTHX |
| 23:48.00 | Antiarc|Work | OnUpdate isn't bad as long as you just use it when you need to. |
| 23:48.14 | Antiarc|Work | My issue with KTM is mostly that it just runs code that it doesn't need to with reckless abandon. |
| 23:48.28 | cladhaire | Do Gruul/Maulgar/Magtheridon drop any good caster weapons? |
| 23:48.35 | KriLL3 | Antiarc|Work: you got spare cycles to spare, right? |
| 23:48.46 | cladhaire | Antiarc|Work: if by that you mean, it runs when you're not in combat then sure. |
| 23:48.51 | Antiarc|Work | KriLL3: I want those cycles being used by the graphics management ;) |
| 23:48.58 | KriLL3 | pff, not important |
| 23:48.58 | cladhaire | Could it have been cleaned up a bit, sure |
| 23:49.07 | cladhaire | Was it likely affecting your framerate? not really |
| 23:49.13 | Antiarc|Work | cladhaire: Well, it scans your buffs once per second, all the time. It runs hunter-specific code for all classes on every frame. It checks your talents once every 10 seconds or so. |
| 23:49.38 | cladhaire | and it was effective. |
| 23:49.42 | KriLL3 | I often change my talents very few seconds |
| 23:49.55 | cladhaire | was it all right, nope. |
| 23:49.55 | Antiarc|Work | Oh, it certainly was effective, I don't dispute that. |
| 23:50.05 | cladhaire | but rather than going into the thread and talking to Kenco about |
| 23:50.10 | Antiarc|Work | Seriously, I give Kenco full credit for the ground he broke. KTM has been tremendously important. |
| 23:50.14 | cladhaire | the Ace mafia went in pretending a.) they knew more and b.) they were better. |
| 23:50.27 | Lopeppeppy | Off for dinner and date, ta everyone! |
| 23:50.32 | cladhaire | i think the framework you've built for Omen is great |
| 23:50.34 | Antiarc|Work | cladhaire, I've tried talking about that kind of thing before and Kenco basically told me to piss off. :/ |
| 23:50.37 | TC-Working | laters Lopeppeppy |
| 23:50.38 | cladhaire | and as far as I know, you weren't involved into that threa |
| 23:50.42 | KriLL3 | there are faction in UI customization? nice. |
| 23:50.43 | |Jelly| | Bye Peppy! |
| 23:50.53 | *** part/#wowi-lounge Lopeppeppy (n=Lopeppep@cpe-72-230-32-5.nycap.res.rr.com) |
| 23:51.09 | Antiarc|Work | I had one post in it before, mostly saying "You could optimize a bunch of stuff by using events instead of blinding polling gear and talents, and by using bucket events for a bunch of stuff" |
| 23:51.15 | Antiarc|Work | That was about my extent of the involvement in it. |
| 23:51.18 | cladhaire | Antiarc|Work: *shrug* its all in the approach |
| 23:51.21 | cladhaire | well that thread was bullshit |
| 23:51.25 | cladhaire | and it woudln't have happened on wowi |
| 23:51.28 | ckknight | KriLL3: you didn't know? |
| 23:51.30 | cladhaire | especially not in comments. |
| 23:51.39 | ckknight | *shrug* |
| 23:51.43 | ckknight | problem is it did happen |
| 23:51.43 | KriLL3 | ckknight: I use addons, not make them. |
| 23:52.10 | cladhaire | ckknight: as a result of members of the ace community. |
| 23:52.18 | cladhaire | the posts there were nasty as hell |
| 23:52.19 | cladhaire | from the start |
| 23:52.24 | cladhaire | anyone would respond defensively |
| 23:52.30 | cladhaire | is he right, nope |
| 23:52.38 | cladhaire | but people made TOO big of a deal out of it without understand what those numbers actually mean |
| 23:52.53 | cladhaire | 60% of 1.0% isn't a problem |
| 23:53.04 | cladhaire | thats the issue I had with it. |
| 23:53.10 | cladhaire | then it turned into an epeen measuring match |
| 23:53.29 | Antiarc|Work | KTM has a noticable effect on my system, unfortunately. |
| 23:53.44 | Antiarc|Work | Especially my laptop, which is kinda underspecced. |
| 23:53.44 | cladhaire | understood |
| 23:53.49 | Antiarc|Work | So it does matter to me :/ |
| 23:53.57 | cladhaire | agreed, i didn't say your points weren't valid. |
| 23:54.09 | ckknight | same situation, I have a laptop and I need more ram |
| 23:54.11 | cladhaire | i sad peopel made too big of a deal out of it, which is true no matter how you look at it. |
| 23:54.12 | Antiarc|Work | But I do agree that the people flaming out of jingoistic loyalty to the Church of Ace weren't helping things :) |
| 23:54.18 | cladhaire | ckknight: so run a lighter addon, problem solved. |
| 23:54.25 | cladhaire | no need for the shit that got thrown aroun din that thread, period. |
| 23:54.28 | ckknight | cladhaire: which is what we've been trying to do |
| 23:54.33 | cladhaire | ckknight: grats, i said great work. |
| 23:54.37 | cladhaire | i'm fine with omen |
| 23:54.41 | cladhaire | i never said a bad word about it |
| 23:54.47 | ckknight | Antiarc|Work made an addon that would temporarily shut off KTM OOC/in cities and such, good stuff, that. |
| 23:54.54 | ckknight | hey Antiarc|Work, did Kenco ever comment on that? |
| 23:55.02 | cladhaire | yes, i saw this |
| 23:55.13 | cladhaire | but fuck teh ace community for pulling that on Kenco, after all the work he did. |
| 23:55.15 | Lunessa | g'night folks. Off to home and playing WoW. |
| 23:55.20 | cladhaire | nothign like shitting on your heritage |
| 23:55.23 | TC-Working | laters Lunessa |
| 23:55.23 | Antiarc|Work | Not that I know of, ckknight |
| 23:55.27 | *** part/#wowi-lounge Lunessa (n=chatzill@129.7.89.52) |
| 23:55.58 | Antiarc|Work | Every programmer's gonna be defensive of their code. That's totally understandable. |
| 23:56.08 | cladhaire | Antiarc|Work: it was more than that. |
| 23:56.09 | cladhaire | So |
| 23:56.14 | cladhaire | quitting my job would be cool |
| 23:56.16 | cladhaire | i'm looking forward to it. |
| 23:56.17 | Cide | yeah, I kinda like shitting on people and then stealing their work |
| 23:56.37 | cladhaire | Cide: good times for all |
| 23:56.44 | *** join/#wowi-lounge JoshBorke (n=Josh@r54h77.res.gatech.edu) |
| 23:56.47 | cladhaire | Cide: by the way, the fucking code you wrote for the curson on the minimap is shit |
| 23:56.53 | JoshBorke | you're quitting your job? |
| 23:56.54 | cladhaire | btu i hate ace so i stole yours. |
| 23:56.58 | cladhaire | fucking CPU hog |
| 23:57.01 | Cide | oh |
| 23:57.02 | cladhaire | Josh_Borke: god willing |
| 23:57.05 | Cide | whatever, bitch. |
| 23:57.08 | cladhaire | srsly |
| 23:57.28 | cladhaire | lol |
| 23:57.31 | JoshBorke | lol. cool. means you can finish all your addons for once |
| 23:57.34 | KriLL3 | wow addons aren't proprietary software, yeah it's not open source but if you give credit where credit is due isn't it more or less ok to fork/modify an addon? |
| 23:57.35 | cladhaire | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:57.37 | JoshBorke | or sohuld i say AN addon? |
| 23:57.40 | cladhaire | Josh_Borke: nah |
| 23:57.45 | cladhaire | KriLL3: nope |
| 23:57.49 | Cide | wrong |
| 23:57.50 | cladhaire | KriLL3: actually |
| 23:57.50 | Cide | wrong wrong wrong |
| 23:58.09 | Antiarc|Work | Addons are generally subject to copyright law like any other work |
| 23:58.14 | cladhaire | I've never included a bit of code from someone in this community without permission |
| 23:58.26 | Antiarc|Work | (which is why Threat is explicitly licensed, incidentally) |
| 23:58.29 | KriLL3 | you can't get paid for it, it's based on a platform you don't own |
| 23:58.32 | TC-Working | yea, just ask before you rape their code |
| 23:58.38 | Cide | KriLL3: wrong |
| 23:58.42 | cladhaire | KriLL3: wrong. |
| 23:58.48 | cladhaire | KriLL3: Copyright is copyright |
| 23:58.53 | Antiarc|Work | KriLL3: It's still intellectual property, and the author holds copyright by default. |
| 23:58.58 | Thrae | I stole a for loop from cladhaire once -- for k,v in pairs(i) do ... end |
| 23:59.03 | cladhaire | And you absolutely can get paid for it. |
| 23:59.05 | KriLL3 | I guess fair use isn't in your vocabulary |
| 23:59.07 | ckknight | Thrae: royalties! |
| 23:59.11 | Thrae | cladhaire definately used that somewhere in his code, and I took it without permission! |
| 23:59.12 | Antiarc|Work | That's not faire use though. |
| 23:59.16 | cladhaire | KriLL3: derivative works are not fair use. |
| 23:59.16 | ckknight | KriLL3: depends on the context. |
| 23:59.27 | ckknight | cladhaire's right |
| 23:59.45 | JoshBorke | btw claddy waddy. i liked the book |
| 23:59.55 | cladhaire | KriLL3: The people here have been doing this for 2.5 years. |
| 23:59.57 | cladhaire | KriLL3: Nothigh you present hasn't been discussed and shot down time and time again. |
