| 00:00.04 | Shirik | yes |
| 00:00.08 | Shirik | we hate people who like efficiency |
| 00:00.16 | Shirik | any addon without random for x = 1,10000 do end |
| 00:00.19 | N00bZXI | :O |
| 00:00.20 | Shirik | doesn't deserve to exist |
| 00:00.21 | Corrodias | there's no problem asking any question here, but you may not get an answer |
| 00:00.30 | Shirik | seriously though don't ask to ask, just ask it :) |
| 00:00.41 | N00bZXI | Alright |
| 00:00.48 | N00bZXI | For a tooltip mod, what would be more efficient? Reusing the text Blizzard adds, and formatting it, or just creating my own text? |
| 00:00.53 | Corrodias | for x = 1,rand(1,100000) do |
| 00:01.22 | Shirik | N00bZXI: depending on what you're trying to do, it could go both ways |
| 00:01.24 | Shirik | typically the former |
| 00:01.42 | N00bZXI | ATM I'm reusing Blizzard text |
| 00:02.00 | N00bZXI | And using gsub to add color/etc |
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| 00:04.01 | Lopeppeppy | Y'all stay good, I have to go blow up my computer and change a whole lot of passwords again! :| |
| 00:05.21 | N00bZXI | http://ctscreens.net/2470 |
| 00:05.23 | N00bZXI | my bad |
| 00:05.26 | N00bZXI | wrong channel :\ |
| 00:15.34 | mikma | so, who has coded something with ColorPickerFrame? i have a problem with it :( |
| 00:19.05 | Shirik | I have :D |
| 00:19.08 | Shirik | I hate them though |
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| 00:22.17 | Shirik | so.... |
| 00:22.23 | Shirik | I'm about to write the entire RDX events subsystem |
| 00:22.30 | Shirik | so that it doesn't use "this" or global args |
| 00:22.39 | Shirik | fun times ahead :D |
| 00:23.42 | foxlit | function OnEvent(self, event, arg1, arg2, arg3, arg4, arg5, arg6, arg7, arg8, arg9, arg0); |
| 00:23.45 | foxlit | done! |
| 00:23.49 | foxlit | (zing!) |
| 00:23.53 | Shirik | yeah, if only it were that easy |
| 00:23.54 | N00bZXI | Arg0? |
| 00:23.58 | N00bZXI | Arg10 don't you mean? |
| 00:24.21 | Shirik | foxlit: I have to go through every place there's a VFLEvent:NamedBind() and adjust the handler function |
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| 00:24.32 | Shirik | that is, after I make VFLEvent actually pass those |
| 00:24.55 | foxlit | I don't think it goes past 9, actually |
| 00:25.24 | Shirik | why would you do that anyway |
| 00:25.24 | foxlit | Well, you don't _have_ to |
| 00:25.25 | Shirik | just use ... |
| 00:25.39 | N00bZXI | Ya |
| 00:25.48 | foxlit | Just pass them through lib, and patch functions as you go |
| 00:26.09 | foxlit | Used arglist since that doubles as both the lib call and the event call definition |
| 00:26.11 | Shirik | >>> SV.GetArg = function(n, ...) return (select(n,...)) end |
| 00:26.17 | Shirik | :( where's Cid |
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| 00:26.40 | foxlit | pointless! expensive! lunacy! |
| 00:26.43 | Shirik | lua> GetArg = function(n, ...) return (select(n,...)) end; return GetArg(4,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) |
| 00:26.43 | cladhaire | Shirik: luabot is not enabled. |
| 00:26.46 | Shirik | T_T |
| 00:27.01 | Shirik | > GetArg = function(n, ...) return (select(n,...)) end; return GetArg(4,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) |
| 00:27.01 | Shirik | 4 |
| 00:27.13 | Shirik | Foxlit would you rather I made a table? |
| 00:27.26 | Shirik | GetArg = function(n, ...) local t = {...}; return t[n]; end |
| 00:27.29 | foxlit | Why would you want a table? :) |
| 00:27.35 | Shirik | exactly :P |
| 00:27.42 | foxlit | Presumably your handlers know what they're getting |
| 00:27.43 | N00bZXI | What's wrong with just using select(1,something(...)) |
| 00:27.53 | foxlit | It's not needed when you know what ... is |
| 00:27.55 | Shirik | because select(1,...) does not return the first parameter |
| 00:28.29 | foxlit | Besides, if you wanted the first, (...) would do it |
| 00:28.30 | Shirik | > = select(1,1,2,3,4,5,6,7) |
| 00:28.31 | Shirik | 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 |
| 00:28.58 | foxlit | point being, you have some legacy handler code |
| 00:29.05 | foxlit | That operates on global arg1, arg2... |
| 00:29.07 | Shirik | oh god legacy doesn't even give it justice |
| 00:29.10 | Shirik | it is incredibly old |
| 00:29.18 | Shirik | it desparately needs some spring cleaning |
| 00:29.27 | foxlit | patch definitions to accept event, arg1, arg2, arg3... from lib |
| 00:29.29 | Shirik | hell, it has functions in it defined like this, check this out: |
| 00:29.32 | foxlit | patch lib to pass arguments. |
| 00:29.51 | foxlit | done, it's no-globals-in-the-future compliant |
| 00:30.01 | Shirik | return function(a1, a2, a3, a4, a5, a6, a7, a8, a9, a10, a11, a12, a13, a14, a15, a16, a17, a18, a19, a20) |
| 00:30.01 | Shirik | fnBefore(a1, a2, a3, a4, a5, a6, a7, a8, a9, a10, a11, a12, a13, a14, a15, a16, a17, a18, a19, a20); |
| 00:30.01 | Shirik | fnAfter(a1, a2, a3, a4, a5, a6, a7, a8, a9, a10, a11, a12, a13, a14, a15, a16, a17, a18, a19, a20); |
| 00:30.01 | Shirik | end |
| 00:30.03 | Shirik | like that function? |
| 00:30.09 | Shirik | (this is before ... existed) |
| 00:30.14 | foxlit | I had that one |
| 00:30.16 | Thunder_Child | Shirik, want to see alot of VFL? |
| 00:30.20 | foxlit | _Raise and stuff |
| 00:30.24 | Thunder_Child | http://wowi.pastey.net/56714 |
| 00:30.31 | foxlit | Only saved up to 9, though |
| 00:30.35 | foxlit | What uses 13? :) |
| 00:30.49 | Shirik | holy hell |
| 00:30.50 | Shirik | what is that |
| 00:30.56 | N00bZXI | Wow |
| 00:31.01 | Thunder_Child | my framexml |
| 00:31.03 | Thunder_Child | log |
| 00:31.13 | N00bZXI | 1270 lines |
| 00:31.27 | Shirik | :( |
| 00:31.30 | Shirik | I need to fix that too I guess |
| 00:32.07 | Shirik | actually what did you do |
| 00:32.11 | Shirik | it looks like you broke every addon |
| 00:32.47 | Thunder_Child | i r skild |
| 00:33.05 | N00bZXI | Wow though, I wonder how much load time that adds |
| 00:33.13 | Thunder_Child | a lot |
| 00:33.36 | N00bZXI | Mine's 55 lines.. |
| 00:34.38 | foxlit | 6/12 00:24:23.593 Couldn't open Interface\AddOns\Blizzard_InspectUI\PVPFrameTemplates.xml |
| 00:34.39 | foxlit | qq! |
| 00:35.21 | foxlit | #quit *falls asleep* |
| 00:35.38 | foxlit | Bah, the one part I can't reload |
| 00:35.45 | Shirik | Thunder_Child: Found the problem, thanks |
| 00:35.56 | Shirik | that's an old inherited FontString |
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| 00:36.20 | Thunder_Child | i also have CF if that makes a problem |
| 00:36.30 | Shirik | no, it quite literally does not exist anymore |
| 00:37.12 | Shirik | grr |
| 00:37.18 | Shirik | this is why I wanted to move away from XML |
| 00:37.49 | foxlit | Just check the log every few releases, it's helpful! |
| 00:39.17 | Thunder_Child | so i can find RDX.cid at www.wowace.com right? |
| 00:39.30 | N00bZXI | lol |
| 00:39.59 | Shirik | -_- |
| 00:46.39 | mikma | new version out <3 http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info7261-EditBox.html |
| 00:48.21 | cladhaire | Upcoming LightHeaded goodies: http://artificialtruth.com/v/webimages/wow/Picture+2.png.html and http://artificialtruth.com/v/webimages/wow/Picture+4.png.html |
| 00:49.03 | N00bZXI | Wow, nice |
| 00:49.31 | mikma | gooooo cladhaire! |
| 00:49.32 | cladhaire | all thott, alla and wowhead item links are converted to tooltips, and check the cache to make sure they won't D/c you |
| 00:49.51 | cladhaire | quest series implemented, and fully clickable.. the simplehtml has a stack and a back button so you can go back to where you were |
| 00:49.59 | cladhaire | all quest URLs in comments are also converted to clickable links |
| 00:50.56 | Fin | those LightHeaded updates give me the horn |
| 01:04.13 | Shirik|AFK | so this is pretty pathetic |
| 01:04.23 | Shirik|AFK | the entire school network has been down for about 12 hours now |
| 01:04.37 | Shirik|AFK | if they were any professional IT department they'd all be fired |
| 01:05.18 | Kaydeethree | geez |
| 01:07.33 | Shirik|AFK | all of the vending machines don't work either :( |
| 01:07.42 | Shirik|AFK | because they can't connect to the network so they won't let you swipe your car |
| 01:07.44 | Shirik|AFK | card* |
| 01:07.58 | Shirik|AFK | both the DHCP and DNS servers are down |
| 01:08.17 | Shirik|AFK | on that note, it's probably the same server |
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| 01:19.10 | Fin | Kirkburn|sleep: grats on end of exams! |
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| 01:39.39 | N00bZXI | Is it just me or do are more people digging up pre-2.0 macros on UI forums today than usually? |
| 01:41.10 | Shirik|AFK | I already answeed it |
| 01:41.13 | Shirik|AFK | no need to go out of the way :P |
| 01:41.38 | |Jelly| | So apparently in getting Chatzilla, Lopeppeppy got a virus? |
| 01:41.45 | Shirik|AFK | ?? |
| 01:41.51 | Shirik|AFK | seriously? |
| 01:41.55 | |Jelly| | [19:03]<Lopeppeppy>Jelly, I managed to get a virus making a solid attempt at my computer downloading Chatzilla. Suddenly my faith is shaken. :( Catch you later on the forums, need to go reset a world-load of passwords now! |
| 01:42.19 | Shirik|AFK | huh. |
| 01:42.24 | |Jelly| | *shrug* |
| 01:42.38 | |Jelly| | I used the same link I gave her and didn't get a virus. |
| 01:42.39 | N00bZXI | I use chatzilla and have nothing of the nature. |
| 01:42.53 | Shirik|AFK | you all are using the same version |
| 01:43.38 | N00bZXI | mIRC crashes my comp |
| 01:43.47 | N00bZXI | so.. ya |
| 01:45.26 | N00bZXI | Not only that.. but I just re-downloaded it two days ago.. because I reformatted two days ago.. Because Vista beta expired |
| 01:45.32 | |Jelly| | By the way...apparently "muting vent" doesn't mute text to speech... |
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| 01:45.42 | |Jelly| | And that's a creepy ass way to wake up -- your computer saying your name |
| 01:46.12 | Shirik|AFK | lol |
| 01:47.06 | N00bZXI | Dumb question: Is there a drawlayer between BACKGROUND and ARTWORK? |
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| 01:52.52 | |Jelly| | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=109912107&sid=1 wtf |
| 01:53.05 | |Jelly| | that's two in like the top 10 posts wanting shit that's been dead for over six months |
| 01:53.25 | |Jelly| | (and as fate would have it, two in the three I've opened) |
| 01:53.35 | N00bZXI | I've seen about 5 today |
| 01:53.42 | |Jelly| | Jeez |
| 01:54.41 | Shirik|AFK | What is happening? |
| 01:54.42 | Shirik|AFK | Due to the storm, there is water in the server room of the simulation center on the Daytona Beach Campus . It is necessary for Information Technology to bring down all of the servers. Various systems will not be available during this time including Stellent, Oracle HR and Financial eBusiness Suite, Eagle card, and Net Storage. |
| 01:54.51 | mikma | |Jelly|: DO YOU HAS A AUTOBUFF 4 ME?!??! |
| 01:54.51 | Shirik|AFK | I find it amusing |
| 01:54.55 | Shirik|AFK | they posted this on our website |
| 01:54.57 | Shirik|AFK | that nobody can view |
| 01:55.13 | |Jelly| | lol |
| 01:55.20 | |Jelly| | mikma: ??? |
| 01:55.30 | mikma | |Jelly|: hi |
| 01:55.44 | |Jelly| | Hi |
| 01:55.48 | |Jelly| | Sorry...just woke up |
| 01:56.02 | |Jelly| | ...to my computer screaming my name |
| 01:56.12 | mikma | i want one too |
| 01:56.18 | Shirik|AFK | HAI |JELLY| |
| 01:56.22 | Shirik|AFK | CAN HAS STDIO? |
| 01:56.24 | |Jelly| | HAI SHIRIK |
| 01:56.32 | mikma | can you also make it screm "PRINCIPLE! PRINCIPLE!" |
| 01:56.44 | Industrial | SHITPICKLE |
| 01:56.50 | |Jelly| | And so you know, Jelly was taken so I had to do something else but I wasn't giving up Jelly! |
| 01:56.55 | Industrial | lol, mikma, you just remimded me of that |
| 01:57.18 | mikma | good thing tekkub ain't op in here |
| 01:57.25 | mikma | would have kickban you |
| 01:57.59 | Shirik|AFK | who me? |
| 01:58.24 | Industrial | me :P |
| 01:58.38 | Cairenn | >< |
| 01:58.42 | mikma | yeah, he would have kb indie :) |
| 02:00.33 | Industrial | (reference http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sayp5lieKuU) |
| 02:00.55 | mikma | shiiit! pickle pickle pickle. |
| 02:01.15 | haste | wonder if he has any new videos out |
| 02:01.34 | mikma | tell me if you find any |
| 02:01.42 | haste | mikma: http://www.gametrailers.com/screwattack.php |
| 02:02.45 | mikma | quite alot of new ones actually |
| 02:02.51 | mikma | gotta watch them after shitpickle |
| 02:03.10 | haste | seen them all :( |
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| 02:17.43 | Thunder_Child | you people hurt my face |
| 02:18.38 | |Jelly| | Yeah well...you hurt my pancreas |
| 02:18.44 | Industrial | is that a good or a bad thing? |
| 02:18.51 | Thunder_Child | at least i do something |
| 02:19.18 | Shirik|AFK | ow, my lazanga |
| 02:19.48 | Shirik|AFK | Thunder_Child: Just for you, 202:422:31 12‹CIA-3012› 03skulls * r280 10/branches/r280: [BRANCH] Branching from development path to investigate a new issue regarding the no-longer-existing VFLFontSmall |
| 02:20.24 | Thunder_Child | you need a whole new branch just for that? |
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| 02:20.58 | Shirik|AFK | yar |
| 02:21.02 | Shirik|AFK | because if I don't finish it |
| 02:21.07 | Shirik|AFK | I don't want it to jack up v11 |
| 02:21.21 | Shirik|AFK | I really haven't messed with that at all so I really have no idea where to start |
| 02:21.26 | Shirik|AFK | I'm probably going to break everything |
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| 02:22.44 | Thunder_Child | yes, break == bad |
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| 02:25.07 | |Jelly| | Interesting... |
| 02:25.18 | |Jelly| | We've had the "I use mods rah rah rah" thread |
| 02:25.38 | |Jelly| | And now the "I don't use mods! I'm holier than thou!" http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=109931982&sid=1&pageNo=2 ...really...who cares? |
| 02:29.14 | Shirik|AFK | wb Tem |
| 02:29.21 | |Jelly| | I got your back, Shirik. |
| 02:29.26 | Shirik|RF | back? |
| 02:29.27 | Tem | heya |
| 02:29.35 | |Jelly| | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=109932015&postId=1097239401&sid=1#4 |
| 02:30.40 | Shirik|RF | :) |
| 02:31.20 | |Jelly| | No one attacks my BE! |
| 02:31.24 | mikma | hohoo |
| 02:31.24 | Shirik|RF | <3 |
| 02:31.28 | mikma | good posts |
| 02:31.33 | |Jelly| | Oh. And Hi Tem! |
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| 02:32.57 | ckknight | hey all |
| 02:33.03 | |Jelly| | Hey! |
| 02:33.35 | Shirik|RF | hai! |
| 02:33.38 | Shirik|RF | can has stdio? |
| 02:35.21 | mikma | autobuff plx? |
| 02:37.30 | N00bZXi | That's just about the only thing that was removed with 2.0 that I wish was still here. |
| 02:38.00 | |Jelly| | I think I went a little too far in that thread, Shirik but I feel better and another noob has been put in his place. |
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| 02:45.18 | bleeter | damn, text search disabled on the warcraft forums |
| 02:45.29 | bleeter | was going to bring an old thread of mine back to life |
| 02:45.43 | bleeter | tho it's prolly fallen into the bitbucket by now /sigh |
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| 02:48.47 | |Jelly| | Aella! |
| 02:48.55 | Aella | |Jelly|! |
| 02:49.18 | |Jelly| | *shrug* It's nice to see people that use their forum names here; I recognize them! |
| 02:49.34 | Aella | =P |
| 02:50.27 | bleeter | this nick is older than WoW, 'sif I'd change it to match n00b forum names |
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| 02:50.49 | |Jelly| | So. What's your theory on the influx of macro requests that were done away with in 2.0? |
| 02:51.44 | N00bZXI | The other question is where these people are getting macros from |
| 02:51.49 | Aella | "omg TBC sux I quit" (*six months*) "omg I can't live without WoW" |
| 02:51.53 | N00bZXI | The last guy who posted one posted one that would error anyway. |
| 02:52.10 | N00bZXI | Cause it's missing an end statement |
| 02:52.14 | |Jelly| | Aella: rofl |
| 02:53.13 | bleeter | my theory (if I understand your question correctly): people who were in pre-2.0 big raiding guilds with MC/Naxx/AQ on farm, and who left the game. These guilds now have big BC instances on farm, and are getting their old people back on the trial accounts |
| 02:53.49 | bleeter | or, if not trial accounts, at least just back in for a 'run around the park', and they discover to their horror that they can't be as leet as before |
| 02:54.07 | bleeter | (leet being a subjective term there ;-) |
| 02:54.19 | |Jelly| | leet equating to lazy |
| 02:54.22 | |Jelly| | 8P |
| 02:54.28 | N00bZXI | Depends on who you are |
| 02:55.18 | Aella | I used to think Blizzard's customer base sucked far and away more than most other companies', as far as whininess goes, but I'm starting to lean towards the theory that one exists for every popular company, you just need to know where to look. |
| 02:55.23 | N00bZXI | Some people had no chance to raid pre-2.0 cause the only guilds they met requirements for were on other servers, and still in mc/zg. |
| 02:55.44 | N00bZXI | And they couldn't do nothing about that cause guilds further on their server required more gear.. that they couldn't get. |
| 02:56.03 | bleeter | one hasn't seen whininess until one's seen the majority #pidgin users. |
| 02:56.17 | bleeter | N00bZXI: heh, I know that feeling oh so well ;) |
| 02:57.00 | bleeter | I think the oceanic realms are just starting to settle into a rhythm now, which is good |
| 03:12.29 | N00bZXI | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=109932015&sid=1 |
| 03:12.36 | N00bZXI | We now know where the pre-2.0 macros are coming from.. |
| 03:14.37 | Nom- | bloody unstable router :( |
| 03:14.49 | N00bZXI | What brand? |
| 03:15.02 | Nom- | Belkin |
| 03:15.11 | Nom- | It locks up when using a Cisco VPN connection |
| 03:15.15 | Nom- | That's the only time it ever locks up |
| 03:15.23 | N00bZXI | Never used one. |
| 03:15.36 | Nom- | Unfortunately, I need to use a Cisco VPN connection to connect to the Office from home :( |
| 03:16.04 | Nom- | Well, I don't...managed to get the old Windows VPN connection going |
| 03:16.18 | Nom- | But that's been a little dodgy too...just dropped a few mins ago |
| 03:19.40 | Thunder_Child | i hate vpn connections |
| 03:20.30 | Thunder_Child | i have to use cisco's as well for work |
| 03:20.46 | Thunder_Child | but it cant tunnel through my connection, no, it has to take it over... |
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| 03:29.22 | |Jelly| | Is there an easy way to change the font on Perfect Raid without changing the font on everything else (CF2) |
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| 03:32.56 | |Jelly| | What's RF mean? |
| 03:33.28 | cladhaire | |Jelly|: youd have to alter the code, but yes. |
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| 03:34.14 | |Jelly| | cladhaire: What code in specific? I looked it over and well, couldn't find anything that was glaring obvious (or I'm just too ignorant in Lua to find it). |
| 03:34.26 | cladhaire | search for GameFontHighlight |
| 03:34.39 | cladhaire | I believe that's the only font instance I use in the unit frames themselves |
| 03:34.43 | cladhaire | that instance needs to be replaced with another. |
| 03:34.51 | cladhaire | but there are a few places its used |
| 03:34.57 | |Jelly| | In the main Lua file? |
| 03:35.27 | Nom- | Thunder_Child: It can tunnel...it's a configuration option |
| 03:35.45 | Shirik | |Jelly|: It's a game |
| 03:35.54 | Shirik | I hadn't played it in 6 months |
| 03:35.58 | Nom- | Thunder_Child: Mine adds all the routes when I log in, so I have a whole heap of routed added just for the staff network |
| 03:36.01 | Shirik | I came back today for a major event |
| 03:36.05 | Shirik | it was nice to see how many people remembered me :) |
| 03:36.11 | Shirik | it's where my name Kimina comes from actually |
| 03:36.14 | bleeter | heh, general thread on US forums about 'famous stars playing wow' |
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| 03:36.19 | bleeter | "Michael Jackson played but recently quit when Children's Week ended." |
| 03:37.06 | Shirik | rofl |
| 03:37.08 | |Jelly| | " local font = raise:CreateFontString(nil, "OVERLAY", "GameFontHighlightSmall") " <- along those lines? |
| 03:37.34 | N00bZXI | You could probably just run font:SetFont |
| 03:37.39 | N00bZXI | Directly after that |
| 03:39.16 | TC-Holding | Nom-, no it takes over the entire connection |
| 03:39.27 | N|Tivoli | local font = raise:CreateFontString(nil, "OVERLAY") |
| 03:39.40 | N|Tivoli | font:SetFontObject("GameFontHighlightSmall") |
| 03:40.00 | N|Tivoli | try that ^^ |
| 03:40.10 | bleeter | hmm, some porn start's having her armory posted |
| 03:40.13 | bleeter | -t |
| 03:40.16 | N00bZXI | Wouldn't that do the exact same thing as before though? |
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| 03:42.25 | Nom- | TC-Holding: Then either your network admins suck at configuring the VPN server, or you didn't change the config option in the Cisco VPN connection to not use default route |
| 03:42.35 | Nom- | I can find the option to change if you want to play |
| 03:42.37 | TC-Holding | i mean from my system to theirs |
| 03:42.51 | Nom- | Yeah |
| 03:43.04 | Nom- | The Cisco VPN client has a 'use default route' option, which you can turn off |
| 03:43.12 | Nom- | Then it only adds routes which are advertised by your network admins |
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| 03:43.56 | Shirik|zZz | hos |
| 03:44.07 | |Jelly| | You're totally not a ghost! |
| 03:44.13 | TC-Holding | ...no, any connection i have going out is over the vpn |
| 03:44.33 | TC-Holding | i cant pick and choose what program uses what tunnel |
| 03:44.52 | Nom- | Yeah, but what i'm saying is that's not how it has to work... |
| 03:45.20 | TC-Holding | how would i pick that IE goes over the vpn, but everyhing else is my standard connecion |
| 03:45.31 | TC-Holding | everything |
| 03:47.12 | Nom- | It's based on IP addresses, TC |
| 03:47.13 | bleeter | heh, there's also a thread suggesting Haris Pilton should be moved into a jail, maybe given an escort quest whilst in there too |
| 03:47.33 | Nom- | ie. When you connect, the Cisco VPN client should add a route so that 10.0.0.0/8 goes through your VPN connection, for instance |
| 03:48.29 | N00bZXI | bleeter: lol |
| 03:49.25 | Thunder_Child | still, i cant make my CS go over normal and wow go over vpn? |
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| 03:53.44 | Nom- | Thunder_Child: You could, if you added blizzard's networks into the VPN route |
| 03:53.58 | Nom- | Routes are IP address/network specific, not application specific |
| 03:57.05 | Thunder_Child | right, and i need aplication specific |
| 03:57.25 | Thunder_Child | application* |
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| 04:03.43 | N00bZXI | Whoops |
| 04:05.18 | N|Tivoli | nj ^^ |
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| 04:14.12 | N00bZXI | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=109912266&sid=1 Someone who's 'not fond of addons' requesting an addon. :O |
| 04:16.18 | Valaron | I haven't used IRC in over a decade. |
| 04:24.30 | Legorol | Thunder_Child: ping, if yo9u are still around |
| 04:24.37 | Thunder_Child | ish |
| 04:24.50 | Legorol | Not so long ago i was in a situation where i was on a machine that had very limited internet access |
| 04:25.10 | Legorol | it had a private IP address, it could browse web via a web-cache, it could read email, and could establish SSH connection to a few select machine |
| 04:25.11 | cladhaire | Legorol: o hai! |
| 04:25.15 | Legorol | hi cladhaire |
| 04:25.26 | Legorol | the aim for me was to get WoW running on that machine, and i managed :o) |
| 04:25.46 | Legorol | I beleive your problem is you want to separate what applications go over what sort of tunnels |
| 04:26.41 | Legorol | well in my case, what i did was created a fake virtual local loopback adapter |
| 04:26.49 | Legorol | assigned to it all the IP addresses of the WoW realms |
| 04:27.02 | Legorol | so that any conneciton WoW makes was actually looped back to my machine |
| 04:27.17 | Legorol | i then tunneled those connections out via the ssh connection to the real wow servers |
| 04:27.23 | Legorol | don't know if this would work for you |
| 04:29.27 | Thunder_Child | all i really wanted was for my connections NOT to be taken over by the vpn connection |
| 04:32.17 | Thunder_Child | doesnt really matter though, friday is my last day |
| 04:33.14 | Thunder_Child | still, kinda sad that i can configure a router for a vpn connection but cant use the damn app efectively |
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| 04:34.10 | bleeter | gah, more guildies with un-mailable toon names |
| 04:34.52 | bleeter | blizz's 101/102 kybd policy is a joke :/ |
| 04:35.12 | zenzelezz | 101/102 key policy? |
| 04:35.13 | bleeter | course, i was always amazed that pre-2.1, no gold sellers seemed to ever wake up to the 'hey guys, if we name our lvl 1 spammers with UTF chars, no one will ever report us' logic |
| 04:35.37 | bleeter | toon names policy... contains something like: |
| 04:35.38 | bleeter | * Consist of any alphanumeric character not normally found on a standard 101/102 key keyboard (O§iri§, Ÿelena, Jašon; Does not apply to Guild, Arena Team or Pet Names unless used to impersonate an existing guild or arena team, or could be considered pure gibberish.) |
| 04:36.17 | zenzelezz | you don't have § on a "standard" US(ish) keyboard? |
| 04:36.24 | bleeter | nop |
| 04:36.40 | Legorol | they have to hire lawyers as a result, to type any text with that symbol in it |
| 04:36.48 | bleeter | think, US-ASCII-7bit, iirc |
| 04:36.49 | zenzelezz | lol |
| 04:37.26 | Legorol | bleeter: i bet my hat that you have at least one key on your keyboard that's not in US-ASCII-7bit |
| 04:37.33 | bleeter | basically, it boils down to 'toons shouldn't have a name that's not typable on your locale's keyboard' |
| 04:37.37 | Legorol | want to know which one? |
| 04:37.44 | bleeter | Legorol: more than likely. Logitech G-15 :P |
| 04:37.50 | Legorol | lol |
| 04:38.10 | Legorol | i was thinking of delete, afaik that's char code 128 or something like that |
| 04:38.19 | Legorol | but i might be confusing it with unix world |
| 04:38.41 | bleeter | I suspect you're correct, hence 'BS as DEL' and similar fundom we see from time to time |
| 04:38.45 | Legorol | bleeter: that wouldn't really fly in Europe unfortunately |
| 04:38.58 | Karrion | Legorol: DEL is 127 |
| 04:39.01 | Legorol | damn |
| 04:39.36 | Legorol | then you get to keep my hat |
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| 04:40.03 | cogwheel | anyone around who's written a unit frame? |
| 04:40.08 | bleeter | Legorol: Indeed, however I suspect even EU client has an inbuilt list of un-usable chars, my 'argument' (for want of a better term) would be the enUS client should hold non 101/102 chars in that list as well |
| 04:40.37 | Legorol | i'd imagine the clients are the same code-wise |
| 04:40.54 | cogwheel | I need to know what event is fired when your target's reaction changes (e.g., when a duel starts) |
| 04:41.06 | Legorol | cogwheel: sweat on forehead? |
| 04:41.55 | bleeter | hmm, I guess it'd 'stop' EU clients playing on US realms and vice-versa |
| 04:42.32 | bleeter | but I don't think it's too much of an ask that players name their toons in the charset the realm 'lives' in ;) |
| 04:43.07 | bleeter | then again, last time I looked, UTF on Windows blew goats bigtime |
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| 04:43.18 | zenzelezz | how so? |
| 04:43.19 | bleeter | so it's entirely probably it's too hard a problem 'coz of gimp OS |
| 04:43.26 | Karrion | bleeter: the auth server should reject names with out-of-locale chars |
| 04:43.55 | Legorol | how do you define locale? |
| 04:44.10 | Legorol | in EU, you can use the enGB, deDE and frFR clients to connect to any of the realms |
| 04:44.15 | bleeter | zenzelezz: fallback fonts.... erm, don't. Frequently, a complain against pidgin, is that 'it don't do UTF' when, in fact, the user hasn't installed sufficient fonts so that fallback occurs and the correct char is displayed |
| 04:44.25 | Karrion | yeah just us vs europe |
| 04:44.27 | bleeter | tho this *might* be better in Vista, I dunno |
| 04:44.52 | zenzelezz | bleeter: you can't blame the OS when the user manually chose not to install the fonts |
| 04:45.20 | bleeter | zenzelezz: the OS is claiming proper UTF support, the default should do it and not rely on 'additional fonts' to do it ;) |
| 04:45.43 | zenzelezz | it supports UTF fine, it just can't always display it since the users suck |
| 04:46.17 | bleeter | hmm, s/users suck/default fontset sucks/ and I'd agree ;) |
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| 04:50.48 | Shirik|AFK | omg! |
| 04:50.52 | Shirik|AFK | stop bumping that thread!! |
| 04:50.53 | Shirik|AFK | T_T |
| 04:51.10 | Shirik|AFK | |Jelly|'s doing it intentionally no |
| 04:51.13 | Shirik|AFK | now* |
| 04:51.23 | |Jelly| | yeah...i am |
| 04:51.59 | Thunder_Child | me to |
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| 04:54.08 | Thunder_Child | i duuno, pissing Shirik|AFK off is quite a lot of fun |
| 04:54.10 | Thunder_Child | cant explain it |
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| 04:55.03 | cogwheel | could I get a volunteer to start a level 1 gnome/dwarf so I can get the events that fire when starting a duel? |
| 04:55.15 | Legorol | in EU? |
| 04:55.22 | cogwheel | no :( |
| 04:55.22 | Shirik|AFK | :( |
| 04:55.23 | Shirik|AFK | why me |
| 04:55.25 | Shirik|AFK | it's like |
| 04:55.32 | Shirik|AFK | everywhere I've ever been known, be it RF or whatever |
| 04:55.37 | Thunder_Child | i will cog |
| 04:55.37 | Shirik|AFK | people pick on me T_T |
| 04:55.39 | Legorol | this regional separation is harsh, coldhearted and miserable |
| 04:55.40 | Thunder_Child | where? |
| 04:55.43 | Legorol | unify the regions! |
| 04:55.45 | Legorol | let's organize a march |
| 04:55.49 | |Jelly| | <3 Shirik |
| 04:55.52 | Shirik|AFK | I'm going to start RPing a girl so that everyone <3s me |
| 04:55.54 | cogwheel | draka? |
| 04:55.54 | Shirik|AFK | like |Jelly| |
| 04:56.01 | Thunder_Child | ok |
| 04:56.14 | Kimina|AFK | now back to studying... |
| 04:56.46 | cogwheel | hmm... forgot i had run to kharanos... running back to the starting area >< |
| 04:57.02 | Thunder_Child | which do you want? A/S/L ? |
| 04:57.37 | cogwheel | gnome/dwarf |
| 04:57.45 | Thunder_Child | sex, class? |
| 04:57.50 | cogwheel | doesn't matter |
| 04:57.54 | Thunder_Child | and do i need a mod running? |
| 04:57.57 | Thunder_Child | particular* |
| 04:58.10 | cogwheel | nope |
| 04:58.20 | cogwheel | i just want to capture a few events with devtools |
| 04:58.42 | Thunder_Child | ok going in |
| 04:59.47 | cogwheel | almost there |
| 05:00.57 | Thunder_Child | good job bleeter |
| 05:01.03 | cogwheel | thanks, tc |
| 05:01.08 | cogwheel | as you were |
| 05:01.11 | Thunder_Child | thats enough? |
| 05:01.11 | bleeter | oh, and apparently 'i win' the rogue macro thread thing |
| 05:01.45 | |Jelly| | huh? |
| 05:01.49 | cogwheel | Thunder_Child: yeah |
| 05:01.56 | cogwheel | <3 devtools |
| 05:02.08 | Thunder_Child | *sniff* you dont like me, i did my hair just for you |
| 05:02.22 | cogwheel | my wife's gnomes are sexier |
| 05:02.40 | Thunder_Child | yea, but your wifes char isnt named cogswoman |
| 05:03.05 | |Jelly| | he makes a point |
| 05:03.09 | bleeter | |Jelly|: I presume that's you in post 10 on https://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=109932015&sid=1 |
| 05:03.52 | cogwheel | Heh... One time I wanted to make a druid and have her play a hunter. I would charter a guild called <Mikina's Pet> and be the only member. |
| 05:04.10 | cogwheel | and spend my time in animal forms |
| 05:04.42 | bleeter | hmm, you'd get ignored in PvP. I could see that working to some degree. |
| 05:04.45 | |Jelly| | Yeah. That was me and yeah, you win. |
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| 05:13.26 | Thunder_Child | damit where is shirik! |
| 05:13.35 | |Jelly| | studying |
| 05:13.50 | Thunder_Child | damn....the bastard |
| 05:13.51 | |Jelly| | ...ignoring us |
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| 05:14.42 | ckknight | lol, |Jelly| |
| 05:14.47 | ckknight | that thread is satire, right? |
| 05:14.55 | Thunder_Child | nope |
| 05:14.59 | Thunder_Child | totaly serious |
| 05:15.03 | |Jelly| | TOTALLY |
| 05:15.15 | |Jelly| | not. even. kidding. |
| 05:15.49 | Kimina|AFK | bleeter |
| 05:15.51 | Kimina|AFK | you can diaf |
| 05:17.00 | |Jelly| | <3 Shirik <3 |
| 05:17.04 | bleeter | almost did once, damn those pesky firemen |
| 05:17.34 | bleeter | ah, the magic of /whois |
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| 05:18.10 | Kimina|AFK | ~lart bleeter |
| 05:18.10 | purl | gives bleeter a "free" copy of Windows and then charges double for "Upgrades" |
| 05:18.14 | Kimina|AFK | rofl |
| 05:18.25 | ckknight | well, I bumped the thread |
| 05:18.28 | ckknight | I had to. |
| 05:18.32 | Thunder_Child | gj ckknight |
| 05:19.02 | N00bZXI | So I just looked at the UI screenshots thread |
| 05:19.05 | bleeter | charges me for coffee coasters? |
| 05:19.11 | Thunder_Child | ack, you killed it ckknight, shame |
| 05:19.12 | bleeter | curel and inhuman punishment |
| 05:19.16 | bleeter | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:19.17 | Thunder_Child | ~lart ckknight |
| 05:19.17 | purl | takes large quantities of Krispy Kream donuts and stuffs them one after another down ckknight's throat until ckknight puts on 150lbs |
| 05:20.06 | N00bZXI | Seems like every other UI either looks like crash's charcoal UI, chim's UI, or ryas' UI |
| 05:20.06 | Kimina|AFK | 01:20:25 » [notice from NickServ]: Please wait 120 seconds before using REGISTER again |
| 05:20.07 | Kimina|AFK | :( |
| 05:20.33 | Kimina|AFK | I hate this nickserv |
| 05:20.37 | ckknight | ah, it needed to die |
| 05:20.40 | Kimina|AFK | why do you have to register a nick if you're going to link |
| 05:21.02 | ckknight | you register |
| 05:21.04 | ckknight | and then link |
| 05:21.09 | bleeter | ckknight: sorry, couldn't help myself |
| 05:21.10 | ckknight | we all know you're Shirik in disguise |
| 05:21.17 | Kimina|AFK | ya that's what I mean |
| 05:21.22 | bleeter | Kimina|AFK: something tells me you haven't properly linked all your alternative nicks |
| 05:21.24 | Kimina|AFK | but I want to link about 3 nicks |
| 05:21.35 | bleeter | ah, you're still registering nicks |
| 05:21.35 | Kimina|AFK | and I have to register each one |
| 05:21.41 | Kimina|AFK | I had all the Shiriks registered |
| 05:21.44 | Kimina|AFK | just not the Kiminas |
| 05:21.46 | Kimina|AFK | and it's annoying |
| 05:21.53 | Kimina|AFK | cause I have to wait 2 minutes in between links |
| 05:22.01 | Kimina|AFK | there |
| 05:22.08 | bleeter | as freenode is where quite a few OSS devs hang out, it's frequently a target of bot attacks 'n stuff like that. |
| 05:22.17 | bleeter | hence, it's a bit more anal in some respects than other networks. |
| 05:22.28 | bleeter | in other respects, it's a compelte joke lol |
| 05:22.52 | Kimina|AFK | anyway, now that that's done |
| 05:22.54 | Kimina|AFK | back to studying |
| 05:23.45 | ckknight | bleeter: responded |
| 05:26.05 | bleeter | ditto, and to nymbia |
| 05:26.31 | nymbia | lol |
| 05:26.49 | bleeter | (meaning his posts into the shirik thread are to be taken light-heartedly as he's bored senseless) |
| 05:27.24 | nymbia | bleeter: that's actually a joke from way way back (the cheater thing) |
| 05:27.44 | nymbia | some guy was ranting about how addons were cheating |
| 05:28.10 | bleeter | hopefully that was me |
| 05:28.19 | bleeter | I've posted some fairly insane crap during weird hours |
| 05:28.31 | N00bZXI | nymbia: lol |
| 05:29.33 | N00bZXI | Speaking of bot attacks, anyway I can cloak my IP here? |
| 05:29.39 | bleeter | I'd cite, as a reference, my attempts to patch Linux Maelstrom using the (iirc) 2.0.3 patcher and failing |
| 05:29.57 | bleeter | and someone actually thinking I was serious... 'cept text search is off and I can't find it |
| 05:30.20 | bleeter | N00bZXI: get yourself involved in a project, and then get a mask (such as what I've got) |
| 05:30.23 | ScytheBlade1 | Blah, it's 11:30 and I can't sleep due to lack of food |
| 05:30.26 | |Jelly| | i loved how people thought I was serious. lol |
| 05:30.29 | ScytheBlade1 | If I eat, I won't sleep, period |
| 05:30.36 | ScytheBlade1 | So what do I do? |
| 05:30.38 | bleeter | I beleive Cairenn handles wowinterface masks, and maybe submasks too |
| 05:30.38 | ScytheBlade1 | Code addons. |
| 05:31.13 | nymbia | |Jelly|: some of those responses were pretty great |
| 05:31.20 | |Jelly| | I tried. |
| 05:31.37 | ScytheBlade1 | Ohh, link? |
| 05:31.52 | bleeter | oh, the 'upshot' of me trying to patch Maelstrom with WoW-2.0.x patcher -> managed to get in direct contact with Slouken about some libsdl stuff, I'm shipping him my Nin DS and he's looking at porting libsdl to DSLinux for it :) |
| 05:31.55 | |Jelly| | just look for the EPIC RDX thread. lol |
| 05:31.59 | ScytheBlade1 | k |
| 05:32.08 | Cairenn | I handle all the submasks for Ace, WoWI and Norgs (WoWUIDev being the pre-face mask) on freenode |
| 05:32.13 | |Jelly| | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=109971652&sid=1&pageNo=3 |
| 05:32.22 | ScytheBlade1 | bleeter, now get us a native linux binary! |
| 05:32.27 | ScytheBlade1 | Err |
| 05:32.31 | ScytheBlade1 | One that isn't from a beta |
| 05:32.34 | ScytheBlade1 | I've got that one |
| 05:32.42 | ckknight | Cairenn: mask? |
| 05:32.54 | bleeter | ScytheBlade1: nope, I'd prefer it runs in Wine. Much easier that way. Can do more than just 'linux', and... |
| 05:33.07 | Cairenn | /who Cairenn |
| 05:33.29 | ScytheBlade1 | bleeter, wine sucks. :) |
| 05:33.44 | bleeter | ... if you look at the hoops VMWare have to jump through, at a guess a game would need a local X server and X driver on the offchance the provided X doesn't do 'enough' |
| 05:34.00 | Kaydeethree | meh; considering I've got a pos 5200fx, I'm getting a reasonable framerate in wow with wine |
| 05:34.00 | bleeter | 'bout the only thing in wine that's still real suck is ALSA, and that's a GSoC project |
| 05:34.11 | ScytheBlade1 | Good to know @ GSoC |
| 05:34.21 | ScytheBlade1 | But still.. |
| 05:34.28 | ScytheBlade1 | The wow beta binaries taunt me |
| 05:34.40 | bleeter | insofar as Cedega *cough* goes, compare and contrast their hack to get WoW 2.1 working, and the real fix that went into Wine 0.9.38 |
| 05:34.56 | ScytheBlade1 | I use vanilla wine |
| 05:35.00 | ScytheBlade1 | I won't support cedega |
| 05:35.14 | Kaydeethree | what kind of stunt did they pull? I stopped paying attention when I stopped paying ~10 months ago |
| 05:35.25 | bleeter | yeah, I can understand the desire for a native Linux binary, but as I said, it'd require ensuring a compatible Xorg and video card binary. |
| 05:35.28 | ScytheBlade1 | It's just them from the start |
| 05:35.32 | clad|sleep | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=109971652&postId=1097340740&sid=1#45 <-- win |
| 05:35.49 | N00bZXI | haha |
| 05:35.50 | bleeter | Kaydeethree: just a nasty hack in, iirc, wininet.dll |
| 05:36.07 | Kaydeethree | to do what? get Scan.dll working? |
| 05:36.09 | bleeter | Kaydeethree: commented with 'proper fix would require reworking several layers' |
| 05:36.14 | Kaydeethree | hah |
| 05:36.26 | nymbia | clad|sleep: rofl |
| 05:37.04 | ScytheBlade1 | bleeter, a pain, yes, but I still want it :/ |
| 05:37.09 | ScytheBlade1 | wine is only so nice on amd64 |
| 05:37.32 | bleeter | needless to say, wine did the actual legwork of the proper fix |
| 05:38.49 | bleeter | then there's the entire 'ok, so what WM's would we support, and do we want to ship known versions of those libs as well, or do we just offer a vanilla X fullscreen' |
| 05:39.03 | bleeter | of course this could, theoretically, change with virtualization. |
| 05:39.21 | N00bZXI | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=109971652&postId=1096544483&sid=1#46 |
| 05:39.46 | bleeter | Blizz ship an, eg, 'Ubuntu WoW' and I run it virtualized on whatever host I like |
| 05:40.01 | N00bZXI | wait bah wrong char |
| 05:40.04 | N00bZXI | reposting |
| 05:40.14 | ScytheBlade1 | lol @ " 15 minutes with Ace can save you 15% or more on your car insurance ... I mean code efficiency. " |
| 05:40.15 | Kaydeethree | ick. then we'd have to deal with the overhead that is virt |
| 05:40.23 | N00bZXI | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=109971652&postId=1096544492&sid=1#47 |
| 05:40.46 | bleeter | Kaydeethree: I'd suspect, at a guess, it'd be less overhead than Wine. But yeah, jsut a guess ;) |
| 05:41.30 | N00bZXI | ..for some reason I name my mods after a toon I no longer play |
| 05:42.32 | ScytheBlade1 | N00bZXI, at least you're original. I'm the author of "HideMainMenuBar" "ExtendCombatLogRange" "ProfessionExport" and soon to be "DestroyConjured" |
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| 05:45.59 | N00bZXI | ScytheBlade1: And yours say exactly what they do. First addon I wrote using the prefix Rage_ was a swing timer.. named it Rage_Timer.. (never released) - however, an end-user wouldn't really be able to tell what it does without looking. |
| 05:46.16 | ScytheBlade1 | hehe, true |
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| 05:57.32 | ScytheBlade1 | Errrr |
| 05:57.32 | ScytheBlade1 | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=109932241&sid=1 |
| 05:57.32 | N00bZXI | rofl |
| 05:57.33 | bleeter | I knew you guys would agree with me, which is why I posted without consulting you yet claiming 'the community demands' |
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| 05:57.34 | N00bZXI | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=109932241&postId=1096544601&sid=1#1 |
| 05:57.34 | Dagron | so, can anyone tell me how to format numbers so that they only display 2 decimal places? |
| 05:57.34 | bleeter | :( they've deleted it, clearly I went too far. |
| 05:57.34 | ScytheBlade1 | lol |
| 05:57.34 | N00bZXI | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=109932241&postId=1096544620&sid=1#2 |
| 05:57.34 | Kaydeethree | slouken's watching the board and wondering what the hell we're all on right now, I bet |
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| 05:57.35 | bleeter | huh, it's sytill there |
| 05:57.35 | ScytheBlade1 | If he is, I imagine he'll join here eventually |
| 05:57.35 | N00bZXI | question: function getglobal(v) return getfenv(0)[v] end |
| 05:57.35 | N00bZXI | correct? |
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| 05:57.36 | cogwheel | yep |
| 05:57.36 | bleeter | N00bZXI: replied |
| 05:57.40 | N00bZXI | bleeter: replied |
| 05:57.40 | ScytheBlade1 | Bah, that's it. I demand food. |
| 05:57.40 | ScytheBlade1 | afk wendys |
| 05:58.02 | N00bZXI | bleeter: replied again |
| 05:59.12 | bleeter | cogwheel: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MT4hhqoWlLY |
| 05:59.17 | bleeter | cogwheel: (sight unseen) |
| 06:00.20 | cogwheel | Can't watch... sleeping wife in room :( |
| 06:00.20 | N00bZXI | I have a feeling someone's going to make a @slouken thread with '[22:52:35]<Kaydeethree>slouken's watching the board and wondering what the hell we're all on right now, I bet' |
| 06:00.34 | |Jelly| | wheels in motion |
| 06:02.50 | N00bZXI | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=109902356&sid=1 |
| 06:02.52 | N00bZXI | :O |
| 06:05.13 | Kaydeethree | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:05.22 | |Jelly| | <3 |
| 06:10.12 | |Jelly| | Shirik. I just spit muffin on my keyboard laughing at your lolcode post. |
| 06:10.31 | |Jelly| | I mean Kimina ^^ |
| 06:10.41 | Kimina|AFK | :) |
| 06:11.25 | Kimina|AFK | It's clearly written in the specs: http://lolcode.com/keywords/i-has-a |
| 06:12.33 | Dagron | so can anyone tell me if there is an easy way to tell what day it is in for a WoW addon? |
| 06:12.42 | Dagron | can i garner that info from date()? |
| 06:13.16 | Kimina|AFK | depends |
| 06:13.22 | Kimina|AFK | do you want to trust the user's clock? |
| 06:13.23 | bleeter | Kimina|AFK: I did indicate it was 'sight unseen' or similar... anyways, responded |
| 06:13.28 | Dagron | heh |
| 06:13.38 | Dagron | is there a better way to do it? |
| 06:13.43 | Kimina|AFK | You can use the server's date |
| 06:14.05 | Dagron | how do i get that? new to this whole addon/lua thing |
| 06:14.08 | Guillotine | IRC is taking over the UI&Macros forum |
| 06:14.10 | Kimina|AFK | GetGameTime() |
| 06:14.12 | Kimina|AFK | it really is |
| 06:14.18 | bleeter | anyways, time to go rescue mum from the butchers, bbl |
| 06:14.20 | Kimina|AFK | http://www.wowwiki.com/API_GetGameTime |
| 06:14.25 | Dagron | alright, thanks |
| 06:14.27 | Kimina|AFK | ~factinfo api |
| 06:14.27 | purl | api -- it has been requested 16 times, last by Cairenn at Wed May 23 07:38:48 2007. |
| 06:14.33 | Kimina|AFK | ~factinfo wowap |
| 06:14.33 | purl | there's no such factoid as wowap, Kimina|AFK |
| 06:14.34 | Kimina|AFK | ~factinfo wowapi |
| 06:14.34 | purl | wowapi -- last modified at Fri Dec 15 06:27:43 2006 by abug!n=ABUGABUG@c-68-63-146-234.hsd1.pa.comcast.net; it has been requested 3 times, last by Mike-N-Go at Wed Jan 24 22:04:02 2007. |
| 06:14.37 | Kimina|AFK | gr |
| 06:14.41 | Kimina|AFK | I need a new one :;/ |
| 06:14.42 | ScytheBlade1 | WTF |
| 06:14.45 | ScytheBlade1 | WENDYS WAS CLOSED |
| 06:14.46 | ScytheBlade1 | NOOOOOOO |
| 06:15.00 | Dagron | that appears to only return hour and minutes >., |
| 06:15.00 | Kimina|AFK | ~factinfo wikiapi |
| 06:15.00 | purl | Kimina|AFK: there's no such factoid as wikiapi |
| 06:15.07 | |Jelly| | Those assholes! |
| 06:15.12 | |Jelly| | Burn that sucker to the ground! |
| 06:15.14 | Dagron | i need to get the day of the week >.< |
| 06:15.20 | ScytheBlade1 | ~wowapi |
| 06:15.22 | purl | (.*?) http://www.wowwiki.com/API_$1 |
| 06:15.28 | Kimina|AFK | oh |
| 06:15.31 | Kimina|AFK | that's what I need actually |
| 06:15.37 | Kimina|AFK | ~wowapi GetGameTime |
| 06:15.42 | ScytheBlade1 | :) |
| 06:15.48 | Kimina|AFK | I was going to rewrite that >< |
| 06:16.02 | zenzelezz | #api GetGameTime |
| 06:16.10 | Kimina|AFK | he's not here |
| 06:16.13 | Kimina|AFK | otherwise I would have |
| 06:16.14 | zenzelezz | right |
| 06:16.20 | zenzelezz | you make a valid point, human |
| 06:16.28 | ScytheBlade1 | purl may be experiencing some latency. It's hardware isn't impressive |
| 06:16.39 | Kimina|AFK | in the future, I demand that all bot hosters must be online 24/7 |
| 06:16.44 | Kaydeethree | riker's got bots in how many channels? |
| 06:16.52 | Kimina|AFK | this includes Cide and foxlit! |
| 06:17.02 | ScytheBlade1 | iirc four bots in one process |
| 06:17.06 | Guillotine | and clad |
| 06:17.07 | ScytheBlade1 | In... well over 150 channels |
| 06:17.22 | ScytheBlade1 | I think ibot is in >80 alone |
| 06:19.15 | Kimina|AFK | you know |
| 06:19.22 | Kimina|AFK | some forum moderator is going to come and ban us all |
| 06:19.29 | Kimina|AFK | from all the crap we've got up there |
| 06:19.42 | ScytheBlade1 | Nah, they know better I think |
| 06:20.03 | ScytheBlade1 | Post history says a lot |
| 06:20.16 | ScytheBlade1 | Jelly might be perma banned if they look at his post history though, lol |
| 06:20.32 | Kimina|AFK | lol |
| 06:20.37 | |Jelly| | pfft |
| 06:20.43 | |Jelly| | I |
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| 06:21.47 | ScytheBlade1 | Can't even defend yourself I see |
| 06:21.50 | ScytheBlade1 | ;) |
| 06:21.56 | ScytheBlade1 | Too used to trolling offensively. |
| 06:22.18 | Shirik|Studying | truth. |
| 06:22.38 | |Jelly| | Not really worried about it, to be honest. |
| 06:22.46 | ScytheBlade1 | Nah, no reason to be, lol |
| 06:22.48 | |Jelly| | 99% of what I say (barring tonight) if the damned truth. |
| 06:22.50 | Shirik|Studying | she's like |
| 06:22.58 | Shirik|Studying | "If they ban me, I'll actually have a life again" |
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| 06:23.09 | Shirik|Studying | "unlike the rest of these fools whom are tortured to stay here forever |
| 06:23.17 | ScytheBlade1 | lol yes |
| 06:23.20 | Shirik|Studying | beating mercilessly on those that refuse to read stickies" |
| 06:23.28 | |Jelly| | No. I'm like "If they ban me, I'll get my other account(s)" |
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| 06:24.11 | N00bZXI | I gotta crash but I'd like to see what's going to happen later with the forums |
| 06:24.20 | N00bZXI | :\ |
| 06:24.25 | |Jelly| | Yeah. I need to bookmark a couple; pending I can log in in the morning. |
| 06:24.53 | ScytheBlade1 | Hmm |
| 06:25.06 | ScytheBlade1 | Bets on Slouken posting an entire portion of the UI in LOLCODE? |
| 06:25.15 | ScytheBlade1 | Then locking the thread? |
| 06:25.15 | |Jelly| | rofl |
| 06:25.31 | Shirik|Studying | that would be awesome |
| 06:25.57 | Mr_Rabies2 | what did i miss |
| 06:26.10 | ScytheBlade1 | It would be awesome beyond belief |
| 06:26.25 | Shirik|Studying | everything |
| 06:26.29 | Shirik|Studying | the only thing keeping me up right now |
| 06:26.33 | Shirik|Studying | is the fact that I'm about to fail a test |
| 06:26.37 | Shirik|Studying | and the fools ont he UI forums |
| 06:26.45 | |Jelly| | You love us! |
| 06:26.52 | *** topic/#wowi-lounge by Cairenn -> #wowi-lounge: Paste Code Here: http://wowi.pastey.net | 2.1 Toc: 20100 | RTFPN please | http://www.wowinterface.com/forums/showthread.php?t=10512 |
| 06:27.18 | Shirik|Studying | hai Cairenn |
| 06:27.27 | |Jelly| | "Want to prove once and for all that yours is bigger?" hahahaha |
| 06:27.31 | zenzelezz | Cairenn: what about the signed posters? |
| 06:27.59 | Shirik|Studying | yes you forgot the signed posters |
| 06:28.08 | Shirik|Studying | It's ok I'l add in the comment at the bottom |
| 06:29.50 | |Jelly| | How Jelly qualifies groups: |
| 06:29.53 | |Jelly| | 01:26:17 [W From] <Oge>: Would you like to heal BOT? |
| 06:29.55 | |Jelly| | 01:29:00 [W To] <Oge>: Does your tank suck? |
| 06:29.56 | |Jelly| | 01:29:08 <Oge>: Level 70 Orc Hunter <Catalyst> - The Botanica |
| 06:29.58 | |Jelly| | 01:29:08 1 player total |
| 06:29.59 | |Jelly| | 01:29:15 Ellysin has gone offline. |
| 06:30.01 | |Jelly| | 01:29:23 [W From] <Oge>: no we are 4 manning with a shadowpirest healing atm |
| 06:30.14 | Kaydeethree | ...whoa |
| 06:30.20 | ScytheBlade1 | rofl |
| 06:30.27 | |Jelly| | Wait. What? |
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| 06:31.21 | *** mode/#wowi-lounge [+v slouken] by ChanServ |
| 06:31.28 | zenzelezz | uh oh, he's onto you guys |
| 06:31.30 | slouken | ... so... what are you guys smoking??? |
| 06:31.30 | Shirik|Studying | o.o |
| 06:31.35 | Shirik|Studying | hahaha |
| 06:31.36 | Kaydeethree | ahahahahaha |
| 06:31.40 | nymbia | you don't wanna know |
| 06:31.41 | |Jelly| | Hmmmmmmmmmmm |
| 06:31.43 | |Jelly| | 01:30:40 [W From] <Oge>: dam the healer came back |
| 06:31.44 | |Jelly| | 01:30:51 [W From] <Oge>: "fell asleep" for a sec |
| 06:31.46 | |Jelly| | 01:31:11 [W To] <Oge>: hahahaha |
| 06:31.46 | Shirik|Studying | › 320: slouken is identified to services |
| 06:31.55 | Esamynn | whatever it is, I need some of it! |
| 06:32.01 | Shirik|Studying | I seriously didn't start it! |
| 06:32.12 | |Jelly| | Kaydeethree did! |
| 06:32.12 | ScytheBlade1 | Ohh, he is online |
| 06:32.13 | |Jelly| | *points* |
| 06:32.20 | ScytheBlade1 | Err |
| 06:32.23 | ScytheBlade1 | Haha, I am blind |
| 06:32.25 | Shirik|Studying | It was that quest |
| 06:32.29 | ScytheBlade1 | I so called it |
| 06:32.34 | Shirik|Studying | "They took me hookah and me drinks" |
| 06:32.35 | slouken | Anyway, I've enjoyed watching the threads, funny stuff. |
| 06:32.36 | Shirik|Studying | or something like that |
| 06:32.55 | Kaydeethree | glad we could be of assistance |
| 06:32.58 | ScytheBlade1 | One request for the blue |
| 06:33.00 | |Jelly| | Does that mean I'm not getting a permaban? |
| 06:33.00 | Kaydeethree | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:33.08 | ScytheBlade1 | <|Jelly|> Yeah. I need to bookmark a couple; pending I can log in in the morning. |
| 06:33.08 | ScytheBlade1 | <ScytheBlade1> Hmm |
| 06:33.08 | ScytheBlade1 | <ScytheBlade1> Bets on Slouken posting an entire portion of the UI in LOLCODE? |
| 06:33.08 | ScytheBlade1 | <ScytheBlade1> Then locking the thread? |
| 06:33.08 | ScytheBlade1 | <|Jelly|> rofl |
| 06:33.09 | ScytheBlade1 | <Shirik|Studying> that would be awesome |
| 06:33.09 | cogwheel | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:33.11 | ScytheBlade1 | <Mr_Rabies2> what did i miss |
| 06:33.13 | ScytheBlade1 | <ScytheBlade1> It would be awesome beyond belief |
| 06:33.17 | ScytheBlade1 | cogwheel, sshhhh |
| 06:33.19 | Mr_Rabies2 | O_o |
| 06:33.19 | nymbia | |Jelly|: that was never implied! |
| 06:33.26 | Shirik|Studying | night Kaydeethree |
| 06:33.26 | Mr_Rabies2 | WHAT IS GOING ON |
| 06:33.31 | |Jelly| | OMG! |
| 06:33.34 | slouken | POOF! |
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| 06:33.40 | ScytheBlade1 | Aww |
| 06:33.41 | Mr_Rabies2 | i just woke up and it's like the channel started licking toads |
| 06:33.42 | nymbia | rofl |
| 06:33.47 | N00bZXI | rofl |
| 06:34.02 | ScytheBlade1 | cogwheel, sorry. I just want LOLCODE + lock. |
| 06:34.15 | Guillotine | I'd be fine with just the lolcode |
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| 06:35.17 | Shirik|Studying | so he totally parted |
| 06:35.20 | Shirik|Studying | instead of quitting |
| 06:35.28 | |Jelly| | I turned into you again, Shirik. |
| 06:35.29 | Shirik|Studying | oh he's in #SDL |
| 06:35.33 | Shirik|Studying | what's that |
| 06:35.41 | |Jelly| | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=109882434&postId=1096943275&sid=1#3 |
| 06:35.55 | ScytheBlade1 | SDL is a cross platform dev thing, essentially |
| 06:35.59 | |Jelly| | I'm tired of people saying I'm not helpful because they're lazy. |
| 06:36.03 | ScytheBlade1 | For audio/video/input/etc |
| 06:36.06 | Shirik|Studying | ah |
| 06:36.20 | ScytheBlade1 | |Jelly|, might want to remove the IP from your post. :) |
| 06:36.31 | |Jelly| | Which? |
| 06:36.33 | zenzelezz | "Simple DirectMedia Layer" or something like that |
| 06:36.38 | ScytheBlade1 | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:36.38 | |Jelly| | nevermimd |
| 06:36.45 | ScytheBlade1 | That |
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| 06:36.58 | |Jelly| | he did it for me |
| 06:36.59 | Shirik|Studying | pwh |
| 06:37.01 | N00bZXI | slouken already removed it |
| 06:37.02 | ScytheBlade1 | lol |
| 06:37.03 | ScytheBlade1 | owned |
| 06:37.24 | ScytheBlade1 | Ha, silent edit too |
| 06:37.24 | |Jelly| | at least he's reading it. rofl |
| 06:37.56 | |Jelly| | *puts one foot in the permaban grave* |
| 06:38.21 | N00bZXI | |Jelly| lol |
| 06:38.40 | Shirik|Studying | I will select my toon then press enter, then the loading screen will appear and fill up at its normal rate. |
| 06:38.40 | Shirik|Studying | After it is done filling up, My modem loses its DSL ( The green light starts blinking red). After a couple seconds it will attempt to reconnect and sometimes it does before i can get booted from wow. |
| 06:38.56 | N00bZXI | https://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=109902356&sid=1#11 slouken's edited by appears to have disappeared. |
| 06:38.57 | |Jelly| | That's totally an addon issue. |
| 06:38.57 | Shirik|Studying | there are some crazy people on the tech support forums |
| 06:39.12 | Shirik|Studying | that's because |Jelly| re-edited it :P |
| 06:39.20 | N00bZXI | Exactly |
| 06:39.36 | zenzelezz | Shirik|Studying: in honesty, I have in some occasions had my DSL go down upon connection... something about burst data after a patch or something, never pinned it down |
| 06:39.37 | |Jelly| | What? Am I going to hell now? |
| 06:39.46 | Shirik|Studying | yes |
| 06:39.53 | Shirik|Studying | if slouken edits something, it is set in stone |
| 06:40.07 | Shirik|Studying | his word is god! |
| 06:40.08 | Shirik|Studying | :D |
| 06:40.12 | |Jelly| | rofl |
| 06:40.37 | Shirik|Studying | slouken says something like "There shall be no more intelligent macros" and then "Let it be done" and it happens |
| 06:40.40 | |Jelly| | lol. totally forgot i was still in game |
| 06:41.22 | |Jelly| | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=109842543&sid=1 Doesn't CS remove you from stealth? |
| 06:41.33 | |Jelly| | nevermind |
| 06:41.37 | |Jelly| | misread |
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| 06:47.00 | ScytheBlade1 | lol |
| 06:47.04 | ScytheBlade1 | I'm confusing the noobs in BEM |
| 06:47.20 | ScytheBlade1 | If you do the new 5 man quests that they added, the ogres make you their king, right? |
| 06:47.47 | ScytheBlade1 | Well, if you stand on top of a high object (or fly up), macro /dance, and then target every ogre in sight and hit the macro |
| 06:47.58 | ScytheBlade1 | Entire swarms of ogres stop in their tracks, turn to you, and dance.. |
| 06:48.32 | Shirik|Studying | ScytheBlade1: lol |
| 06:48.46 | Shirik|Studying | you have to target them first? |
| 06:48.48 | Shirik|Studying | and then do it? |
| 06:48.53 | |Jelly| | Shouldn't you be srudying? |
| 06:48.58 | Shirik|Studying | :( I know |
| 06:48.59 | |Jelly| | studying too! |
| 06:49.02 | Shirik|Studying | I have a whole chapter to read still |
| 06:49.03 | ScytheBlade1 | Yeah, you have to target them |
| 06:49.16 | ScytheBlade1 | /point will do something too |
| 06:50.06 | ScytheBlade1 | That's why I macro'd /dance... and then hotkeyed it. Lets me move quicker (several per second) |
| 06:50.49 | |Jelly| | So I just went to the General Forums. |
| 06:50.55 | zenzelezz | you fool |
| 06:50.59 | |Jelly| | I don't think you can wash that taint off. |
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| 06:53.25 | Shirik|Studying | http://img177.imageshack.us/img177/6299/faillessnoobis7.jpg |
| 06:53.25 | Shirik|Studying | wow |
| 06:53.30 | Shirik|Studying | that is some massive circlage |
| 06:53.53 | |Jelly| | indeed it is! |
| 06:54.12 | Shirik|Studying | aww |
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| 06:54.20 | |Jelly| | ? |
| 06:54.23 | Shirik|Studying | 6 pages devoted to me being supposedly back: http://community.codemasters.com/forum/showthread.php?t=191995&page=1&pp=10 |
| 06:54.23 | Guillotine | Microsoft should ACE windows |
| 06:54.24 | Shirik|Studying | they <3 me |
| 06:54.25 | Shirik|Studying | ^^ |
| 06:54.29 | Shirik|Studying | Guillotine: you can die now |
| 06:54.33 | Cairenn | night guys |
| 06:54.36 | Shirik|Studying | night Cairenn |
| 06:54.39 | |Jelly| | Nighty night |
| 06:55.35 | ScytheBlade1 | Die conjured items die |
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| 06:59.46 | Guillotine | I think whateve we were smoking has finally stopped our hearts. Its dead quiet in here all of a sudden |
| 06:59.55 | |Jelly| | Arena |
| 07:00.29 | ScytheBlade1 | Coding |
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| 07:04.04 | ScytheBlade1 | What's the difference between pairs() and ipairs()? |
| 07:04.07 | ScytheBlade1 | I can never remember |
| 07:04.16 | Guillotine | ipairs does it in order |
| 07:04.20 | Guillotine | pairs doesn't |
| 07:04.32 | ScytheBlade1 | Heh, simple enough |
| 07:04.35 | ScytheBlade1 | ty |
| 07:11.22 | krka | err |
| 07:11.33 | krka | ipairs only iterates through the integer keys from 1 and up |
| 07:11.37 | krka | until it hits a nil value |
| 07:11.51 | krka | pairs iterates through all the keys, without any guaranteed order |
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| 07:27.54 | ScytheBlade1 | Hmm, 1:30 AM |
| 07:28.55 | |Jelly| | 2:30! |
| 07:29.28 | Zek | 8:30 :) |
| 07:29.31 | Zek | and hi |
| 07:29.37 | |Jelly| | hi |
| 07:34.58 | Zek | 400 visits to wowiki and never noticed the irc link. go me. |
| 07:35.12 | |Jelly| | lol |
| 07:35.37 | Xuerian | 3:30 |
| 07:35.39 | Xuerian | >_> |
| 07:35.43 | Xuerian | What are we doing again? |
| 07:35.56 | Zek | hopefully, this'll somewhat help with the inability to post on the us forums |
| 07:36.50 | ScytheBlade1 | Muhahaha |
| 07:36.53 | ScytheBlade1 | It is almost complete |
| 07:36.59 | ScytheBlade1 | Too bad I'm too scared to test it |
| 07:37.45 | ScytheBlade1 | Eh why not |
| 07:37.53 | ScytheBlade1 | Let's just hope I don't nuke all of my gear |
| 07:39.39 | SunTiger | ScytheBlade1, what are you doing ? |
| 07:40.06 | ScytheBlade1 | Addon that scans my bags for conjured items, and destroys them |
| 07:40.20 | SunTiger | ..... |
| 07:40.22 | ScytheBlade1 | I can't help but think, "What if it bugs out, picks up my potions, and nukes them..." |
| 07:40.34 | SunTiger | why would you want to destroy conjured items. |
| 07:40.44 | ScytheBlade1 | I'm a mage, and after a raid |
| 07:40.49 | SunTiger | AHA |
| 07:40.52 | SunTiger | nice idea |
| 07:40.54 | ScytheBlade1 | I spend far too many clicks nuking crap I don't want |
| 07:41.06 | N|Tivoli | logout for 15 min ^^ |
| 07:41.07 | SunTiger | ScytheBlade1, roll a level one mage ? |
| 07:41.25 | Zek | comment out the actual delete bit, and just chatframe the final code it'll run :) |
| 07:41.29 | SunTiger | they can conjure water from level one or two |
| 07:41.30 | ScytheBlade1 | N|Tivoli, or, I could write an addon which does it for me! |
| 07:41.34 | ScytheBlade1 | Zek, that's what I did |
| 07:41.36 | N|Tivoli | hehe |
| 07:41.39 | Zek | good good |
| 07:42.03 | ScytheBlade1 | However, it seems to work |
| 07:42.54 | N|Tivoli | ipairs iterates over integers and stops at the first break, pairs does string and integer table values, integer values are still ordered in pairs |
| 07:43.02 | N|Tivoli | to answer your earlier question ^^ |
| 07:43.18 | ScytheBlade1 | Yeah I got it, thanks |
| 07:43.29 | |Jelly| | Ok guys. Good night. Shirik, if you're still there...good luk on your test. |
| 07:43.31 | |Jelly| | luck |
| 07:43.35 | Shirik|Studying | thanks :) |
| 07:43.44 | N|Tivoli | i'm just scrolling up and reading ^^ |
| 07:44.04 | |Jelly|zZz | you've got a lot of BS to sift through |
| 07:44.06 | N|Tivoli | probably missed an answer in there lol |
| 07:44.21 | N|Tivoli | meh, nothing else to do while sitting in queue ^^ |
| 07:44.35 | Shirik|Studying | N|Tivoli that's not right |
| 07:44.41 | Shirik|Studying | you cannot guarantee ordering with pairs() |
| 07:44.48 | N|Tivoli | i could do ui work, but i'm not feeling it atm |
| 07:45.16 | N|Tivoli | the strings aren't, but i'm pretty sure the integers are |
| 07:45.20 | Shirik|Studying | nope |
| 07:45.23 | N|Tivoli | k |
| 07:45.27 | Shirik|Studying | > t = {[1] = 1, [2] = 3, ["foo"] = 5, [100] = 7} |
| 07:45.27 | Shirik|Studying | > for k,v in pairs(t) do print(k .. ": "..v); end |
| 07:45.27 | Shirik|Studying | 2: 3 |
| 07:45.28 | Shirik|Studying | 1: 1 |
| 07:45.28 | Shirik|Studying | 100: 7 |
| 07:45.28 | Shirik|Studying | foo: 5 |
| 07:46.04 | N|Tivoli | rgr |
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| 07:46.26 | ScytheBlade1 | Muhaha |
| 07:46.28 | ScytheBlade1 | It is working |
| 07:46.29 | N|Tivoli | hehe |
| 07:46.37 | Zek | gz |
| 07:46.58 | ScytheBlade1 | Never again will I spend two minutes clicking just to nuke crap I don't want in my bags :P |
| 07:48.10 | Shirik|Studying | http://www.thenoobcomic.com/daily/strip070.html |
| 07:48.14 | Shirik|Studying | last line is, by far, the best |
| 07:48.40 | ScytheBlade1 | Shirik|Studying, I like that test material. What class? |
| 07:48.50 | Shirik|Studying | that's what happens when you get distracted |
| 07:48.54 | Shirik|Studying | the book tells me to go to a website |
| 07:48.59 | ScytheBlade1 | :) |
| 07:49.01 | Shirik|Studying | unfortunately it doesn't tell you to close the other tabs on firefox first |
| 07:49.35 | ScytheBlade1 | lol |
| 07:50.16 | |Jelly|zZz | PK IN PONG! |
| 07:50.57 | |Jelly|zZz | http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y225/dlouhys/noobgm.jpg |
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| 07:53.14 | Shirik|Studying | confused |
| 07:53.18 | Shirik|Studying | did he get renamed devnull? |
| 07:53.23 | |Jelly|zZz | no |
| 07:53.25 | Shirik|Studying | or did that already exist? |
| 07:53.27 | |Jelly|zZz | He didn't get renamed |
| 07:53.33 | ScytheBlade1 | Now the real question, is do I localize my addon or not |
| 07:53.35 | |Jelly|zZz | Not sure, to be honest. |
| 07:53.38 | |Jelly|zZz | No. |
| 07:53.41 | Shirik|Studying | No. |
| 07:53.56 | ScytheBlade1 | It'd be easy! |
| 07:53.57 | ScytheBlade1 | if (GameTooltipTextLeft2:GetText() == "Conjured Item") then |
| 07:54.05 | Shirik|Studying | eew |
| 07:54.06 | |Jelly|zZz | ok. for really...going to bed this time. Shirik, I apologize in advance. |
| 07:54.11 | Shirik|Studying | night :) |
| 07:54.46 | Dagron | i'm having trouble pulling my saved variables from the savedvariable files >.< |
| 07:55.14 | Dagron | anyone know how to overwrite nil's coming in from a saved variable? |
| 07:55.51 | Dagron | nvm |
| 07:55.54 | Shirik|Studying | huh? |
| 07:55.55 | Dagron | figured out my problem |
| 07:55.56 | Dagron | >.< |
| 07:56.00 | Shirik|Studying | a nil can't come from a saved variable... |
| 07:56.08 | Shirik|Studying | nil is quite literally the lack of a value |
| 07:56.26 | Dagron | well... yeah, if you don't have a value to save initially, it won't have a value |
| 07:56.46 | Dagron | which is what is currently happening with a table i have, but i figured out what was going wrong |
| 07:56.53 | Shirik|Studying | it won't save nil |
| 07:56.56 | Shirik|Studying | it can't |
| 07:56.56 | Shirik|Studying | it doesn't exist |
| 07:56.58 | Dagron | so no problems now =) |
| 07:57.02 | Dagron | well, it won't save anything |
| 07:57.14 | Dagron | so when the addon goes to load, it doesn't find a value and says its nil |
| 07:57.16 | Shirik|Studying | right, so how can you overwrite something that doesn't exist? ;) |
| 07:57.23 | Dagron | >.< |
| 07:57.25 | Dagron | meh |
| 07:57.31 | Elkano | saving nil means not saving it ^^ |
| 07:58.05 | Elkano | how can you kill those that has no life? |
| 07:58.25 | Shirik|Studying | hehehe |
| 07:58.32 | ScytheBlade1 | Now to test my addon against the only other addon that I know of that hooks OnTooltipSetItem |
| 07:58.47 | Elkano | Mendeleev? |
| 08:02.14 | ScytheBlade1 | Whoo, I win |
| 08:02.14 | ScytheBlade1 | And now I win sleep |
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| 08:06.28 | Shirik|Studying | also btw |
| 08:06.31 | Shirik|Studying | very late but |
| 08:06.36 | Shirik|Studying | devnull is an awesome name |
| 08:09.35 | Zek | trying to fix more of this damned lockup problems. fixed for many ppl, but not all ofc... |
| 08:11.07 | Zek | ticks me off. code that's worked since TBC release >< |
| 08:11.07 | Mr_Rabies2 | so....is 2.1.2 hitting tomorrow or no? :O |
| 08:11.07 | Mr_Rabies2 | i'm guessing june 19 since that's the new season |
| 08:11.08 | Mr_Rabies2 | but maybe for once they'd like to release a patch a bit ahead of the big change so that when said change happens everything doesn't go to hell |
| 08:11.36 | zenzelezz | big change? |
| 08:20.17 | Mr_Rabies2 | arena season 2 |
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| 08:25.31 | Wraanger | heyaz |
| 08:28.21 | Zek | lo |
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| 08:40.07 | Kaso_ | lol code? |
| 08:41.42 | bleeter | ssh i iz hidin |
| 08:43.04 | Kaso_ | i appparently missed some fun in irc whilst i slept tonight |
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| 08:59.25 | bleeter | hmm, is there a way to tell ingame which renderer one's running (OGL vs D3D)? I'm lazy atm, don't want to stop this AH scan. |
| 09:00.11 | bleeter | oh, nm, wine complaining about some d3d errors tells me enough heh |
| 09:04.22 | Kaso | well, you dont need it but, GetCVar("gxApi") would have done it |
| 09:04.32 | Kaso | why do (did?) you need to know |
| 09:05.57 | bleeter | 'coz I've got around to running WoW back in Wine, after going to Windows for a few weeks |
| 09:06.41 | bleeter | I also did an OS upgrade, but grabbed the Wine from the testing repository. Then copied over the WOW from the windows partition. It just occurred to me I hadn't 'suffered' from previous D3D issues I'd had |
| 09:07.09 | Kaso | ooh, its playable on d3d? |
| 09:07.18 | Kaso | last i tried i crashed moments after pew |
| 09:07.19 | bleeter | and was wondering if somehow I'd managed to forget changing the gxApi over, but as I hadn't the conclusion is Wine 0.9.38 D3D is probably usable |
| 09:07.48 | bleeter | no double mice, no horrid jerking, tho this is just running around IF between AH and Bank, seems a *lot* better than previous wine I used (0.9.36) |
| 09:08.02 | bleeter | er, you can s/mice/mouse pointer/ |
| 09:08.33 | bleeter | getting some errors ion the console, but a lot less than previous |
| 09:08.37 | bleeter | fixme:d3d:IWineD3DDeviceImpl_ResourceReleased Vertex buffer released while bound to a state block, stream 0 |
| 09:08.40 | bleeter | err:d3d_draw:blt_to_drawable Blitting surfaces from sysmem not supported yet |
| 09:08.50 | bleeter | are the only two problems I'm seeing atm |
| 09:09.05 | Kaso | hmm, very interesting |
| 09:09.40 | bleeter | resizing the window seems a little problematic, tho somewhere along the way I did turn the compsite manager off which may have helped a fair bit too ;) |
| 09:09.40 | Kaso | its always nice to see tangable improvements with new versions |
| 09:09.56 | bleeter | oh, and I can exit it now without my cache being 0 bytes ;) |
| 09:10.01 | bleeter | which was the main thing I was after |
| 09:21.44 | bleeter | but, yeah, in general, as a straight copy over of a previously existing windows install, seems a heck of a lot better than previous Wine :) |
| 09:22.14 | bleeter | still, I'm prolly gunna end up running in OpenGL for a while, 'til I can do some fps timing-in-fight foo |
| 09:26.33 | bleeter | Kaso: I will say that D3D, with all 'video option' bling enabled, performs a *LOT* better than OGL with bling enabled, on my 6800XT |
| 09:26.44 | bleeter | when standing around Shattrath |
| 09:27.04 | bleeter | tho, 15fps vs 2fps is 'better', it's no way ideal |
| 09:29.02 | Mr_Rabies2 | someone tell me what crazy scandinavian language this is in: http://j4cbo.mirror.waffleimages.com/waffleimages/files/8f/8f2065851001efa292037a703c4061a23aaf03b6.gif |
| 09:29.34 | Mr_Rabies2 | and alternatively translate the portion talking about Richard Kyanka |
| 09:30.15 | bleeter | that's Nederlandse (Dutch) |
| 09:31.06 | bleeter | which, curiously enough, is kind of half semi-almost-old-English, half German |
| 09:31.56 | bleeter | apart from the 'Nederlanders' mentioned, and a couple of other words... 'kunt' is a dead give-away |
| 09:32.31 | Zek | anyone happen to use X-Perl here? and have that old lockup problem still after upgrading to 2.2.6 ? long shot, but i need testing fodder :) |
| 09:32.34 | Kaso | bleeter interesting, i might update Wine and give it a test |
| 09:32.36 | bleeter | I can only read about 1/3 of each sentence, so it doesn't make much 'sense' to me, sorry Mr_Rabies2 |
| 09:32.50 | SunTiger | bleeter, yes it means, can. |
| 09:32.54 | Mr_Rabies2 | you're uselesssssss >:[ |
| 09:32.55 | bleeter | Kaso: if you're into fiddling a little, I'd say it'd be worth the effort, see what happens |
| 09:34.06 | bleeter | SunTiger: it does? I thought it was something like 'checkout', hence the girls standing near a cash-till with 'u kunt heir' or something similar on a sign above their heads. Must admit, was a while since I was there, memory's a little hazy |
| 09:34.23 | bleeter | I guess now, that the phrase meant 'you can pay here' |
| 09:34.28 | SunTiger | more or less |
| 09:34.59 | Mr_Rabies2 | pfft |
| 09:35.02 | Mr_Rabies2 | the dutch |
| 09:35.02 | SunTiger | let me get read it and give you the short version mr_Rabies |
| 09:35.10 | SunTiger | kick your ass |
| 09:35.18 | bleeter | Not that Hoofdorp(?) was the stunning hive of nightlife activity that lead to any haziness |
| 09:35.21 | Mr_Rabies2 | It's something about vegetarian society and secret police or something |
| 09:35.44 | SunTiger | yes on the first part no on the second |
| 09:36.00 | Mr_Rabies2 | oh and "pfft, the dutch" is from a tv show :O |
| 09:36.02 | SunTiger | kyanka is talking about that the dutch are banning smoking in public area's |
| 09:36.13 | SunTiger | he wants to ban eating meat in public area's too. |
| 09:36.31 | SunTiger | eventually he want all meat to disapear from supermarkets |
| 09:36.35 | bleeter | what? no public blowjobs? the guy's insane! |
| 09:36.48 | SunTiger | and the secret police needs to check if people are eating meat |
| 09:37.25 | SunTiger | but as a start he wants to create meatfree zones in all restaraunts where vegetarians can eat in peace. |
| 09:37.31 | SunTiger | thats about it |
| 09:37.47 | SunTiger | there is some going on about how bad eating meat is and bio industry and the like too |
| 09:38.02 | Mr_Rabies2 | That's not actually written by richard, i think the whole article's a joke, and possibly photoshop |
| 09:38.06 | Mr_Rabies2 | since richard doesnt know dutch |
| 09:38.15 | Mr_Rabies2 | since he lives in missouri, i'm pretty sure he doesn't know dutch :p |
| 09:38.46 | SunTiger | i don't know the entire person |
| 09:38.56 | Mr_Rabies2 | http://youtube.com/watch?v=SeBjr8Bm_wA for richard's best contribution to our society |
| 09:39.16 | SunTiger | could have been translated |
| 09:39.36 | Mr_Rabies2 | he plays Reginald P. Linux in that video |
| 09:39.47 | SunTiger | i did not sense any sarcasm in the writing |
| 09:40.11 | SunTiger | but that may be inentional |
| 09:41.28 | Mr_Rabies2 | he is a world class actor |
| 09:41.35 | Mr_Rabies2 | i see him going far in hollywood |
| 09:42.07 | Mr_Rabies2 | he even got his ass kicked by uwe boll |
| 09:42.47 | SunTiger | lol |
| 09:44.24 | SunTiger | what is the POINT fo that move ? |
| 09:47.44 | Mr_Rabies2 | there is no point |
| 09:47.48 | Mr_Rabies2 | like |
| 09:47.50 | Mr_Rabies2 | literally, not one |
| 09:48.57 | Mr_Rabies2 | however |
| 09:49.03 | Mr_Rabies2 | mood house makes even less sense |
| 09:49.17 | Mr_Rabies2 | it's doom house's "plot" in reverse, with the characters switched |
| 09:49.23 | Mr_Rabies2 | http://youtube.com/watch?v=nvbbrolCuNk |
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| 09:52.42 | SunTiger | who the hell thinks this shit up |
| 09:55.34 | Mr_Rabies2 | he is a cinematic genius what are you talking about >:[ |
| 09:56.04 | Mr_Rabies2 | i mean |
| 09:56.17 | Mr_Rabies2 | LEAVE MY HAPPY HOOOOOOUSE |
| 09:59.21 | SunTiger | weird doll figurine1!!!!!1 |
| 10:01.39 | Mr_Rabies2 | What an odd looking....figurine. What is this...figurine....doing in my....hoooouse? |
| 10:01.50 | Mr_Rabies2 | top notch acting there |
| 10:02.05 | Mr_Rabies2 | I'm about to install Safari for windows :o |
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| 10:06.38 | SunTiger | don't |
| 10:06.49 | SunTiger | it will eat your computer and make you buy ipods |
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| 10:55.02 | Mr_Rabies2 | ha |
| 10:55.08 | Mr_Rabies2 | new glider banwave yesterday |
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| 10:55.19 | Recluse | yay! |
| 10:56.12 | Mr_Rabies2 | just those who were playing when warden was updated, apparently |
| 10:56.49 | Recluse | 212 installing tonight? |
| 10:58.44 | foxlit | Thought it was 19th |
| 10:58.56 | Recluse | k |
| 10:59.04 | Mr_Rabies2 | no signs of it yet |
| 10:59.09 | Mr_Rabies2 | but we'll know within an hour or two |
| 10:59.16 | Recluse | yeah |
| 10:59.26 | Recluse | didn't know if i should stay up lol |
| 11:05.05 | Zeksie | let us know if it does. we have to wait till wednesday >.< |
| 11:05.53 | Mr_Rabies2 | generally within an hour of the servers going down the new patch is up if it's going to be up |
| 11:06.48 | Mr_Rabies2 | servers go down at 8 EST and it's... |
| 11:06.49 | Mr_Rabies2 | 14,1Time: (47:05:37 AM EST on Tuesday, June 12, 200714) |
| 11:07.46 | Kirkburn|sleep | ergh |
| 11:08.59 | foxlit | Generally, patch == extended downtime == warning a day before |
| 11:15.02 | bleeter | doubt we'll be patching tonight |
| 11:15.18 | bleeter | they've got next week to ruin the 'no downtime' plan with ;) |
| 11:17.32 | Mike-N-Go | Guild dram FTL. |
| 11:18.18 | foxlit | http://wowdrama.org/ ! |
| 11:18.52 | Mike-N-Go | Nay, the problem is I can't find and stay in a guild, stably, nor find one active if I do say in it. |
| 11:19.57 | foxlit | Sell yourself as a guild destroyer to high-end guilds |
| 11:20.13 | foxlit | They're probably poaching members from each other, so it's all cool if one of them suddenly falls apart :P |
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| 11:21.06 | Mr_Rabies2 | one guild on my server is notorious for poaching |
| 11:21.20 | Mr_Rabies2 | they've wrecked plenty of guilds for their own in the past |
| 11:26.13 | Thrae | Hmmmm |
| 11:27.22 | Mike-N-Go | So, I am thinking on moving to a new server, so I may have a fresh start. |
| 11:28.22 | zenzelezz | Mike-N-Go: transfer or reroll? |
| 11:28.34 | Mike-N-Go | zenzelezz: Both =P |
| 11:28.58 | zenzelezz | regarding poaching, there was a guild formed on my server last summer that was pretty much breakaways from a few guilds; and ended up poaching a few players from many raid guilds |
| 11:29.09 | Thrae | I haven't been assigned any calls yet...I just got up, and yelled in an English accent, "Ready to work!" |
| 11:29.22 | zenzelezz | we had a few "Sorry guys, it just isn't working out"ers in my guild, they'd leave the guild and one minute later was in the new one |
| 11:29.22 | Thrae | Dammit boss, click on me. |
| 11:29.39 | Mike-N-Go | Coining to move my main, level 70 Tauren hunter, to another server where there is less variance between the horde to alliance ratio, and more people RP there. |
| 11:30.13 | Mike-N-Go | Thrae: Bosses click? |
| 11:30.33 | Thrae | My work is done through the Internet ;) |
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| 11:32.59 | zenzelezz | then what good is standing up and shouting? o_O |
| 11:33.27 | Thrae | It was a WC RTS reference. |
| 11:34.14 | Mike-N-Go | Night guys. |
| 11:34.23 | zenzelezz | afternoon I'd say |
| 11:34.25 | zenzelezz | but have fun |
| 11:34.34 | Elkano | ~ugt |
| 11:34.37 | purl | rumour has it, ugt is Universial Greeting Time. Created in #mipslinux, it is a rule that states that whenever somebody enters an IRC channel it is always morning, and it is always late when the person leaves. The local time of any other people in the channel, including the greeter, is irrelevant. http://www.total-knowledge.com/~ilya/mips/ugt.html |
| 11:34.43 | Mike-N-Go | Well, it is a few hours before sunup, and I am yet to slumber! |
| 11:34.51 | *** join/#wowi-lounge beerke (n=beerke@5353E179.cable.casema.nl) |
| 11:34.58 | Mike-N-Go | Yes, Universial Greeting Time FTW |
| 11:35.05 | Mr_Rabies2 | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=109942131&sid=1&pageNo=1 |
| 11:35.10 | Mr_Rabies2 | O_O |
| 11:35.19 | Mike-N-Go | Mr_Rabies: Do you have Rabies? |
| 11:35.28 | Mr_Rabies2 | perhaps |
| 11:35.47 | Mr_Rabies2 | perhaps i'm a squirrel with rabies, perhaps i'm the actual virus typing away |
| 11:35.52 | Mr_Rabies2 | the world will never know |
| 11:36.30 | Mike-N-Go | Maybe, I am a cow in disguise?!!? |
| 11:37.27 | JoshBorke | /moo |
| 11:41.02 | Thrae | Mr_Rabies2: Heh, he equipped it. |
| 11:41.37 | Thrae | There are so many crazy people out there. Sometimes the drama can be funny. |
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| 11:44.05 | Mr_Rabies2 | there's a lot of drama bombs out there |
| 11:44.38 | Mr_Rabies2 | but if i was the druid that got ninja'd off of i'd probably make sure everyone on the server knew of his exploits :D |
| 11:45.14 | Mr_Rabies2 | he'd probably end up out of 25 bucks or just quit altogether which makes me far happier than losing the best bear trinket available |
| 11:45.42 | Thrae | I'd ninja that from a Rogue. Screw Rogues! |
| 11:46.13 | Thrae | Feral Druid > Rogue. It's true. |
| 11:46.14 | Mr_Rabies2 | most rogues wouldn't even want it except to sell it :P |
| 11:46.25 | Mr_Rabies2 | 300 armor is 300 armor to them |
| 11:46.36 | Mr_Rabies2 | 300 armor is at least 1200 to us |
| 11:48.02 | Thrae | Yep |
| 11:48.28 | Thrae | I don't really see anyone other then a Feral Druid having a real claim to it... |
| 11:48.41 | Thrae | Well, any Druid |
| 11:49.10 | Mr_Rabies2 | most restos i've met never use their forms |
| 11:50.14 | foxlit | "Ret pallies can chain repentance and HoJ but both last no where near as long as a cyclone or sheep. But then again CC isn't a huge deal to me in PvP. It only concerns me in 5man/raiding. " |
| 11:50.31 | Mr_Rabies2 | :/ |
| 11:50.39 | Mr_Rabies2 | there's so much wrong with that sentence |
| 11:50.59 | foxlit | WoW forums are awesome for that :) |
| 11:51.23 | Mr_Rabies2 | HoJ is 6 sec |
| 11:51.27 | Mr_Rabies2 | Repentance is 6 sec |
| 11:51.47 | Mr_Rabies2 | cyclone is 6 sec |
| 11:51.58 | Mr_Rabies2 | HoJ + Repentance > Cyclone |
| 11:52.45 | foxlit | Different DR timers too |
| 11:52.54 | foxlit | Plus HoJ == instance? |
| 11:53.01 | foxlit | s/ce/t/ |
| 11:53.17 | Mr_Rabies2 | yeah |
| 11:53.40 | Mr_Rabies2 | i mean we can go bear and bash |
| 11:53.59 | foxlit | 4secish? |
| 11:54.07 | Mr_Rabies2 | yeah i think 4 sec untalented |
| 11:54.15 | Mr_Rabies2 | i think the talent's broken though |
| 11:54.30 | Mr_Rabies2 | because i can't even get a HT off during a bash talented |
| 11:54.46 | foxlit | I've done that several times in 2.0 |
| 11:55.01 | foxlit | GCD on shift out is evil, though |
| 11:55.16 | Mr_Rabies2 | there isn't one on shifting out |
| 11:55.25 | Mr_Rabies2 | it's just laggy because the forms don't cache or something |
| 11:55.35 | Mr_Rabies2 | so there's a natural delay in shifting or something |
| 11:57.00 | Mr_Rabies2 | i'm making a character on mug'thol to harass Binar later today |
| 11:57.20 | Mr_Rabies2 | "grats on the trinket man, so...which server you transferring to?" |
| 11:58.21 | Thrae | 16:00 < Foxbot:#wowwiki> Nahahateu, Level 70 Druid (0/49/12). 9853 HP; 5480 Mana; 210 Str; 149 Agi; 5023 Armor; +159 defense. <-- nice stats |
| 11:59.01 | Mr_Rabies2 | is that your druid, foxlit? |
| 11:59.37 | Thrae | No, his Bot can call up Armoury stats |
| 11:59.44 | Mr_Rabies2 | ohh |
| 11:59.53 | Mr_Rabies2 | how do i do that :O |
| 12:00.07 | Thrae | His bot isn't in this channel...only #wowwiki |
| 12:00.29 | Thrae | Oh wait |
| 12:00.32 | Thrae | It IS in this channel |
| 12:00.40 | Thrae | #char US Maelstrom Thrae |
| 12:00.40 | Foxbot | Thrae, Level 59 Druid (1/41/8). 4043 HP; 2899 Mana; 193 Str; 233 Agi; 19.62% dodge. |
| 12:00.56 | Mr_Rabies2 | #char US Cho'gall Jamsheed |
| 12:00.57 | Foxbot | Jamsheed, Level 70 Druid (0/49/12). 10158 HP; 6905 Mana; 468 Str; 455 Agi; 29.07% dodge. |
| 12:01.02 | Mr_Rabies2 | that's not me, just an awesome druid |
| 12:01.10 | Thrae | Hehe |
| 12:01.16 | Mr_Rabies2 | #char US Llane Raybeez |
| 12:01.17 | Foxbot | Raybeez, Level 70 Druid (1/46/14). 6314 HP; 4310 Mana; 319 Str; 389 Agi; 25.74% dodge. |
| 12:01.17 | Mr_Rabies2 | that's me |
| 12:01.19 | Mr_Rabies2 | in dps gear |
| 12:01.22 | Mr_Rabies2 | :[ |
| 12:01.27 | Mr_Rabies2 | he's got better everything |
| 12:01.35 | subbawt | #char US Mal'Ganis subbawt |
| 12:01.36 | Foxbot | Subbawt, Level 70 Priest (20/41/0). 6321 HP; 8805 Mana; 316 Spi; 171 mp5; 1857 +heal. |
| 12:01.40 | Mr_Rabies2 | hp, armor, stam, dodge, everything |
| 12:01.58 | Thrae | Your health is only 2000 over mine, that doesn't sound right |
| 12:02.19 | Mr_Rabies2 | druid dps itemization is pretty bad at 70 |
| 12:02.32 | Mr_Rabies2 | all of it is attack power/crit rating |
| 12:02.42 | Thrae | Ah, your focused clearly on edging out DPS |
| 12:02.49 | subbawt | we have a feral druid that does competitive DPS, he has to tank most 25 man fights though |
| 12:02.51 | Mr_Rabies2 | instead of Str/Agi/Stam |
| 12:03.05 | Mr_Rabies2 | i keep up with those stats though |
| 12:03.06 | bleeter | man, that priest taking the armor/+agi trinket is... like... prolly the dumbest thing I've seen for the past three months |
| 12:03.09 | Mr_Rabies2 | i have to back off in kara |
| 12:03.11 | Mr_Rabies2 | or i'll pull aggro |
| 12:03.23 | Thrae | bleeter: No, the dumbest thing is him EQUIPPING IT |
| 12:03.29 | Mr_Rabies2 | read the thread, bleeter |
| 12:03.31 | Mr_Rabies2 | he's so goddamn smug |
| 12:03.40 | Mr_Rabies2 | i'm going to harass him until he goes offline with counter-smuggery |
| 12:03.42 | bleeter | well, yeah, equipping it's part of the dumb thing |
| 12:03.52 | bleeter | read the thread too... no wonder he sucks @ PvP |
| 12:03.59 | bleeter | 'need the armor'.. a .. shadow.. priest :/ |
| 12:04.24 | subbawt | armor used to be THE pvp stat for priests |
| 12:04.33 | subbawt | but yeah it's pretty bad now |
| 12:04.38 | bleeter | what occurred to me, when he said he'd never grouped/instanced with his guild... purchased account |
| 12:04.50 | Mr_Rabies2 | he was a high warlord |
| 12:04.50 | Mr_Rabies2 | or |
| 12:04.51 | Mr_Rabies2 | wlel |
| 12:05.01 | Thrae | Mr_Rabies2: When I was looking at 70 Druid itemization, I saw more +Stam on DPS items though. So I guess your sacrificing a lot of Stam for marginal increases in DPS? |
| 12:05.02 | Mr_Rabies2 | whoever owned his account was |
| 12:05.32 | bleeter | prolly an afk'er in AV |
| 12:05.33 | Mr_Rabies2 | i am in some cases, thrae |
| 12:05.43 | Thrae | Anything to show those damn Rogues :D |
| 12:05.55 | Mr_Rabies2 | only because until you go to raiding, all dps upgrades cut hp way way down |
| 12:06.01 | Thrae | I do a lot of PvP, so I always have to find the Zen Balance |
| 12:06.08 | Mr_Rabies2 | so do i |
| 12:06.09 | Mr_Rabies2 | that's the thing |
| 12:06.14 | Mr_Rabies2 | i survive pretty well on mine |
| 12:06.22 | Mr_Rabies2 | i start in bear gear in arenas |
| 12:06.29 | Mr_Rabies2 | which places me at about 14000 hp |
| 12:06.40 | zenzelezz | #char US Arthas Zenzio |
| 12:06.41 | Foxbot | That is not the character you're looking for, zenzelezz. |
| 12:06.53 | Thrae | 14k in Bear? |
| 12:07.02 | Mr_Rabies2 | then if i'm fighting casters, i jump to cat gear |
| 12:07.07 | Mr_Rabies2 | yeah |
| 12:07.14 | Mr_Rabies2 | 14k in bear with motw |
| 12:07.16 | zenzelezz | #char EU Silvermoon Zenzio |
| 12:07.17 | Foxbot | Zenzio, Level 70 Warrior (11/0/50). 12324 HP; 258 Str; 129 Agi; 13994 Armor; +349 defense; 21.14% dodge; 27.84% block. |
| 12:07.18 | bleeter | oO I've been afk from IRC, we've got an armory bot? |
| 12:07.33 | Mr_Rabies2 | #char US Llane Rilley |
| 12:07.35 | Foxbot | Rilley, Level 70 Rogue (30/0/31). 8084 HP; 104 Str; 367 Agi; 18.13% dodge. |
| 12:07.38 | Thrae | foxlit was showing it off |
| 12:07.40 | Mr_Rabies2 | this is my pet gnome i arena with^ |
| 12:07.55 | Mr_Rabies2 | she needs more dps though :[ |
| 12:08.09 | Thrae | I have more Dodge then her :D |
| 12:08.16 | Mr_Rabies2 | yeah her dodge is pretty meh |
| 12:08.18 | zenzelezz | I have too o_O |
| 12:08.28 | Mr_Rabies2 | i have more agi |
| 12:08.31 | Thrae | zenzelezz: I'm level 59 |
| 12:08.39 | Mr_Rabies2 | well, stats are different at 59 |
| 12:08.46 | Thrae | Oh, true |
| 12:08.52 | Mr_Rabies2 | in that gear at 70, you'll have much less dodge than her |
| 12:09.05 | Mr_Rabies2 | or him |
| 12:09.11 | Mr_Rabies2 | i haven't found a way to ask that doesn't sound creepy |
| 12:09.20 | bleeter | omfg, they fixed the armory search for linux firefox |
| 12:09.33 | Thrae | I just assume they're all male until proven otherwise. |
| 12:09.47 | Mr_Rabies2 | i assume based on character gender until proven otherwise |
| 12:09.49 | Thrae | Nude pics or you're a man! |
| 12:09.51 | Kirkburn|sleep | My kingdom for an Iriel! |
| 12:11.21 | Mr_Rabies2 | generally speaking though |
| 12:11.21 | zenzelezz | bleeter: how so? |
| 12:11.21 | Mr_Rabies2 | gnome females tend to be females moreso than most other races |
| 12:11.21 | bleeter | I ain't bringing up my stats thru the bot, I'm wearing my about town pimp gear (and missing half my buffs) |
| 12:11.21 | Mr_Rabies2 | tauren females too |
| 12:11.21 | Thrae | That's true. Gnomes are generally too "cute" |
| 12:11.21 | Mr_Rabies2 | because who wants to be a chick AND a furry |
| 12:11.22 | zenzelezz | Linux Firefox armory search was bugged? |
| 12:11.22 | bleeter | zenzelezz: originally, couldn't search using the field in the top of the screen |
| 12:11.22 | Thrae | Tekkub: Hey there, how ya doin' |
| 12:11.22 | zenzelezz | bleeter: must have been a while ago |
| 12:11.22 | zenzelezz | I've been searching fine for at least one or two weeks |
| 12:11.25 | bleeter | I've been off Linux until today, since about two days after 2.1 ;) |
| 12:11.36 | zenzelezz | welcome back |
| 12:11.37 | Mr_Rabies2 | i've been trying out safari for windows |
| 12:11.39 | Mr_Rabies2 | so laggy :[ |
| 12:11.42 | zenzelezz | now fix my Æ Ă˜ Ă… keys pliz |
| 12:11.42 | bleeter | finally got a decent build of Wine 0.9.38 that I'm happy with |
| 12:11.57 | Mr_Rabies2 | i think firefox is faster honestly |
| 12:12.09 | Mr_Rabies2 | then again i've tweaked the hell out of mine to work well with my connection :o |
| 12:12.17 | bleeter | and ff3.0 should be faster still, seperate JS threads 'n all 'n stuff |
| 12:12.42 | Thrae | http://mywebpages.comcast.net/SupportCD/FirefoxMyths.html |
| 12:15.16 | bleeter | ah, yay, more private pages that are (probably) done by someone on a payroll somewhere ;) |
| 12:16.28 | bleeter | reality: both IE and FF are steaming piles of crap, in their own way |
| 12:21.51 | Kirkburn|sleep | Well now you can use Safari on Windows |
| 12:26.18 | *** join/#wowi-lounge Trela (n=alexia@c-68-39-209-77.hsd1.pa.comcast.net) |
| 12:28.11 | Thrae | http://www.webdevout.net/firefox-myths <-- Firefox fans dispel their own myths ;) |
| 12:28.28 | bleeter | wtf http://agylen.com/2007/06/11/35-years/ |
| 12:28.48 | Kirkburn|sleep | Lol, looking at the reviews of the Safari for Windows beta. It's *shite* |
| 12:28.56 | Kirkburn|sleep | A complete buggy mess |
| 12:30.38 | bleeter | no suprise there, smells awfully like 'hay guyz, if we don't put safari on windows, no one will write for the iPhone as bugger all Mac users regularly use it as a browser' |
| 12:31.23 | bleeter | then again, betas are generally buggy piles of shite, releases just less buggy piles of shite |
| 12:31.38 | Trela | Safari is weird any way. >.> |
| 12:31.58 | bleeter | Kirkburn|sleep: http://norganna.org/wiki/Auctioneer/Definition_of_Stable |
| 12:32.59 | zenzelezz | I think many people confuse "beta" and "release candidate" |
| 12:33.08 | Kaso | at least a jellow building in an earthquake wouldnt kill those inside! |
| 12:33.09 | Mr_Rabies2 | <Thrae> http://mywebpages.comcast.net/SupportCD/FirefoxMyths.html |
| 12:33.16 | Mr_Rabies2 | this is the page of a guy with way too much time on his hands |
| 12:34.11 | bleeter | zenzelezz: would that be because MS have managed to convince people to pay for their betas by calling them 'release candidates'? |
| 12:34.32 | bleeter | (amongst other companies, but they're the highest profile I could think of who'd do such a darstadly deed) |
| 12:34.35 | zenzelezz | bleeter: don't know, I don't pay attention to betas and RCs most of the time |
| 12:34.39 | zenzelezz | but I do see your point |
| 12:35.57 | Mr_Rabies2 | Generally for big microsoft products, |
| 12:36.30 | Mr_Rabies2 | Beta = pre alpha, release candidate = alpha, release = beta Service pack 1 = release |
| 12:36.43 | Mr_Rabies2 | man i need to add some commas or something |
| 12:36.51 | zenzelezz | would help |
| 12:36.52 | Mr_Rabies2 | Beta = pre alpha, release candidate = alpha, release = beta, Service pack 1 = release |
| 12:36.53 | Mr_Rabies2 | there we go |
| 12:37.09 | zenzelezz | I find the quality of MS products varies by a lot |
| 12:37.26 | Mr_Rabies2 | vista's gonna be amazing when SP 1 or 2 hit i'm sure |
| 12:37.29 | zenzelezz | I really love VC++2003 (IDE and compiler/debugger) |
| 12:37.34 | Mr_Rabies2 | just like XP was sub-par at release |
| 12:37.45 | bleeter | problem when your fingers are in so many pies, so easy to fsck up |
| 12:37.47 | Mr_Rabies2 | around SP1 it was handy |
| 12:37.57 | Mr_Rabies2 | and SP2 made it pretty damn awesome |
| 12:38.04 | bleeter | we'll just ignore NT4 until SP4 ;) |
| 12:38.05 | Trela | Windows XP was at least miles better than what Windows 9x was. |
| 12:38.17 | zenzelezz | yeah, but so was 2000 |
| 12:38.22 | bleeter | and conveniently forget NT4SP3 ever lived |
| 12:38.26 | zenzelezz | XP was just 2000 for Joe Average |
| 12:38.36 | zenzelezz | originally |
| 12:38.52 | Trela | OS 10.0 = Never happened in Apple's eyes. |
| 12:39.17 | Mr_Rabies2 | XP was 2000 with a shiny new coat and a few fixes at release |
| 12:39.24 | zenzelezz | true |
| 12:39.39 | zenzelezz | but the shiny new coat never lasted more than five minutes past installation on my computer |
| 12:39.39 | Mr_Rabies2 | now, browsing with 2000 on today's internet is pretty scary |
| 12:39.48 | bleeter | I seem to recall Win2K and WinME weren't going to exist at one stage, then they 'discovered' that they had to (due to the new driver model thing fscking up so much in ME), tho I'm prolly wildly wrong as I don't do windows ;) |
| 12:40.03 | Mr_Rabies2 | and vista, at the moment is basically just XP with a shiny new coat and a few fixes |
| 12:40.08 | Mr_Rabies2 | for the user at least |
| 12:40.11 | Trela | Bleeter, Mac person? |
| 12:40.15 | Mr_Rabies2 | i know underneath it's pretty different |
| 12:40.22 | bleeter | Trela: nothing person, every OS sucks |
| 12:40.22 | Thrae | If you mention OS 10.0 on a Mac, or Windows ME on a Windows computer, the screen will flash randomly and you'll forget you ever said anything. |
| 12:40.28 | zenzelezz | Trela: there are PC OSes besides Windows |
| 12:40.52 | Trela | I am just guessing Bleeter just uses the power of his mind to play Wow and get on IRC then. :P |
| 12:40.55 | Trela | *WoW |
| 12:40.58 | Thrae | zenzelezz: Hell, Apple OSes are now "PC OSes" ;) |
| 12:41.09 | zenzelezz | Thrae: valid point |
| 12:41.20 | Mr_Rabies2 | my buddy's gonna be happy they're developing BF2142 for macs |
| 12:41.24 | zenzelezz | Trela: there's a fairly large number of people running both IRC and WoW on Linux |
| 12:41.34 | Mr_Rabies2 | i dunno if it's gonna work on the ibm processors or not |
| 12:41.37 | bleeter | BeOS FS and some of their GFX fun, some Amiga hardware, some Solaris SMP scaling, Windows availablity, MacOS UI ease of use for newbies... |
| 12:41.39 | Mr_Rabies2 | but we'll see |
| 12:41.48 | Trela | I am a Linux administrator, but not for personal use. |
| 12:41.56 | bleeter | list goes on of various OSs that had good parts, but fail miserably in other areas |
| 12:42.00 | bleeter | or have |
| 12:42.05 | Mr_Rabies2 | i'm tempted to get the new acer cheapo laptop |
| 12:42.08 | Mr_Rabies2 | and install ubuntu on it |
| 12:42.14 | Thrae | I just run IRC on my Ubuntu system, with a monitor right next to my WoW. If I want them both on the same system, I'll use PuTTY. |
| 12:42.23 | Thrae | Mr_Rabies2: Link? |
| 12:42.30 | Mr_Rabies2 | lemme find it |
| 12:42.44 | Mr_Rabies2 | it's like |
| 12:42.48 | zenzelezz | I run IRC on my left monitor, WoW on my middle, whichever code editor I'm messing in on the right |
| 12:42.48 | Mr_Rabies2 | $199 |
| 12:42.53 | bleeter | I do a bit of open source coding, so it's just inconvenient to me to boot into WIndows just to play a game |
| 12:42.56 | Trela | Thrae, the newer Macs actually do flash the screen bright white at you with some things, erasing... what was that? |
| 12:42.58 | Mr_Rabies2 | and there's one in japan for a bit more with much better features |
| 12:43.03 | bleeter | tho, I could use VMWare... I don't |
| 12:43.11 | Thrae | I just recently spent $250 on a used laptop from Ebay, so I'd like to know how much I was ripped off |
| 12:43.33 | Mr_Rabies2 | Thrae: http://event.asus.com/eeepc/ |
| 12:43.38 | Mr_Rabies2 | asus, not acer |
| 12:43.39 | Mr_Rabies2 | sorry |
| 12:44.13 | Thrae | Ooo, I'm an Asus fanboy |
| 12:45.14 | Trela | Actually, I came around to ask, is it really worth recoding an entire AddOn to use Ace? |
| 12:45.56 | Mr_Rabies2 | probably not if it's already written :O |
| 12:46.12 | Trela | 100% written and released~! |
| 12:46.14 | Mr_Rabies2 | ace is more or less something to make addon writing easier, as far as i understand :O |
| 12:46.37 | krka | yes, ace makes your addon like 200% faster and makes it use almost no memory |
| 12:46.40 | zenzelezz | don't consider it just because some nub user asks you to; but it is of course up to you |
| 12:46.41 | Thrae | Trela: Ace is just a framework. Perhaps your addon will be better in performance using Ace2 standards, perhaps not. The point is to make a well-coded addon that's easy to maintain, regardless of framework. |
| 12:47.05 | krka | did i say 200%? i meant 500% |
| 12:47.19 | Mr_Rabies2 | remaking an addon in ace is kinda like adding a type r sticker to your car |
| 12:47.20 | zenzelezz | and use 150% less memory |
| 12:47.21 | Thrae | Trela: Try asking your question in #wowace ;) |
| 12:47.26 | Trela | Already using 2-4mbs of RAM for my AddOn. |
| 12:47.31 | Trela | Thanks, Thrae. :3 |
| 12:47.40 | Mr_Rabies2 | it adds at least 100 horsepower when you slap that type r sticker on |
| 12:48.02 | krka | you're really supposed to shoot speed holes into your car |
| 12:48.33 | krka | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:48.34 | krka | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:48.34 | krka | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:48.35 | krka | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:48.51 | bleeter | (or so I've been told) |
| 12:48.54 | Mr_Rabies2 | my friend had a bullet hole in his truck, that was pretty interesting :o |
| 12:49.04 | Thrae | Trela: Hopefully they'll give the same answer, I'm just interested in seeing what they'd say. If you're looking to decrease the memory usage of your addon, and it's already made and released, Ace2 is actually not a good idea, because it "hides" a lot of the resource usage behind its libraries. |
| 12:49.10 | Mr_Rabies2 | you can set the strata of Cartographer's frame, iirc, bleeter |
| 12:49.24 | zenzelezz | krka: don't explain your joke... Mr. T pities the fools who need their explanation |
| 12:49.28 | Thrae | This doesn't mean Ace2 doesn't decrease used resources, it's just harder to track. |
| 12:49.32 | krka | sorry |
| 12:49.44 | Trela | Ah, makes sense. 99% of my AddOn's resources is a giant database. |
| 12:49.45 | Thrae | Best way is profiling with minimal library usage |
| 12:49.57 | bleeter | Mr_Rabies2: hmm, then I wonder why the users are being told be wowace to not use gatherer, instead of changing the strata.. /shrug, might ask MP about that tomorrow |
| 12:50.05 | bleeter | er, s/be/by/ |
| 12:50.15 | Mr_Rabies2 | i can't exactly check right now or i would |
| 12:50.20 | bleeter | aye |
| 12:50.29 | Mr_Rabies2 | i just downloaded it like last week |
| 12:50.35 | Thrae | Trela: AceDB can do some database optimization |
| 12:51.06 | Trela | Mmm, must figure this out then! |
| 12:51.16 | Mr_Rabies2 | what does said addon do? is it kinda like a lootlink sorta thing? |
| 12:51.36 | Zeksie | and if your data lookups can use shared info that already exists in ace tables, then you're avoiding data duplication and yes will save memory. but if you just 'pretend' it's ace, with a few hooks and use all your own data.. there's no point |
| 12:51.37 | Mr_Rabies2 | Thrae |
| 12:51.41 | Mr_Rabies2 | here's a bit more info on the Eee |
| 12:51.42 | Mr_Rabies2 | http://www.asus.com/news_show.aspx?id=7317 |
| 12:51.43 | Thrae | Trela: However, with a huge database, best to do your own optimizations |
| 12:52.04 | Mr_Rabies2 | Release date is set for this fall. A 10" version is set for first quarter next year. |
| 12:52.20 | Trela | Well, I originally optimized the database format from the original AddOn from about 10mbs down to a typical 3mbs. |
| 12:52.23 | Zeksie | indeed. predictable data can be optimized much smaller than an unknown |
| 12:52.32 | bleeter | then there's the whole 'getting clean interoperability with non-ace stuff can sometimes be like pulling teeth' |
| 12:52.46 | Mr_Rabies2 | it uses a solid state drive, apparently, thrae :O |
| 12:53.02 | Thrae | Trela: All the optimizations you can do will be sacrificing hash speed for memory usage |
| 12:53.19 | Thrae | Such as converting the data into compressed strings |
| 12:53.49 | Mr_Rabies2 | $299 for the 10" version, thrae |
| 12:54.01 | Thrae | Mr_Rabies2: That's the cheapest? |
| 12:54.05 | Mr_Rabies2 | no |
| 12:54.10 | Mr_Rabies2 | 199 for the 7" one |
| 12:54.18 | Zeksie | even such compressed tables have to be expanded when actually needed, into weak tables usually. |
| 12:54.24 | Thrae | Ah, well I don't feel TOO bad then...7" is kinda small ;) |
| 12:54.37 | Mr_Rabies2 | yeah, it's a small cheapo |
| 12:54.43 | Mr_Rabies2 | but it'll run ubuntu |
| 12:54.48 | Mr_Rabies2 | i'd love a little ubuntu box |
| 12:55.28 | krka | your momma didnt think 7" was small! |
| 12:55.32 | Thrae | Zeksie: Yeah, but when you're dealing with a Item database, that can save you a HUGE amount, since you can't control when SavedVariables are typically loaded |
| 12:55.36 | Mr_Rabies2 | but it does have a solid state HDD |
| 12:55.37 | Mr_Rabies2 | :O |
| 12:55.44 | Thrae | Ooo, I just thought of something |
| 12:55.55 | Xuerian | Mr_Rabies2: They haven't released any detailed specs on what chipset they're using, eh? |
| 12:56.10 | Zeksie | hey. i'm not knocking it. just warning that you can't rely on a permenant saving of memory. it's still gonna be used 'sometime' |
| 12:56.11 | Trela | Example database that I work with. http://www.nonamestudios.com/flagRSP2_files/flagRSP2.lua |
| 12:56.18 | Mr_Rabies2 | CPU & Chipset: Intel mobile CPU & chipset is all i'm seeing |
| 12:56.39 | Trela | The old format used to have three different tables duplicating the same data.(Before I took over development.) |
| 12:56.48 | Xuerian | I'm going to laugh when that thing is faster than my desktop |
| 12:56.48 | Zeksie | eww :) |
| 12:57.14 | Mr_Rabies2 | well, the 199 dollar one only has a 4 GB hdd |
| 12:57.15 | Mr_Rabies2 | :O |
| 12:57.19 | Thrae | Trela: If you can seperate your addon into "Catagories" of data, where users may typically only need X out of XY catagories, you can split them up into seperate LoD addons each with their own SavedVariable table |
| 12:57.20 | Xuerian | Well, true |
| 12:57.22 | Mr_Rabies2 | but it's all solid state |
| 12:57.28 | Xuerian | Which has the 16? |
| 12:57.36 | Mr_Rabies2 | i dunno if they have a price for that yet |
| 12:57.51 | Thrae | Trela: That way 100% of the data may never get loaded, compressed or not |
| 12:58.00 | Zeksie | or build needed data in desired format at run time from compressed source |
| 12:58.07 | Trela | That makes sense, Thrae, though I use all data most of the time. |
| 12:58.07 | Xuerian | Hope they don't make it come with windows |
| 12:58.17 | Xuerian | Though for that price it seems like they're not loading it with anything |
| 12:58.26 | Mr_Rabies2 | imagine loading your OS to the solid state and using an external drive for everything else |
| 12:58.28 | Thrae | Ah, flagRSP2. Glad that's getting a makeover. |
| 12:58.36 | Xuerian | Mr_Rabies: There's the idea |
| 12:58.41 | Xuerian | that'd be pretty sweet |
| 12:58.46 | Mr_Rabies2 | it's got linux on it from the start |
| 12:58.49 | Xuerian | ahhh |
| 12:58.52 | Mr_Rabies2 | apparently it takes about 15 seconds to fully boot |
| 12:58.54 | Trela | What do you mean FlagRSP2 getting a make over? O.o It is the redo of the original. |
| 12:58.58 | Xuerian | nice. |
| 12:59.03 | Trela | Of flagRSP that is. |
| 12:59.03 | krka | you could save some memory by reducing number of tables |
| 12:59.12 | Thrae | Makeovers can be redos! |
| 12:59.12 | Mr_Rabies2 | flagrsp's pretty resource heavy i hear |
| 12:59.18 | krka | essentially structure it like this: |
| 12:59.19 | Thrae | Yeah, the original was |
| 12:59.28 | krka | table.property[character] = whatever |
| 12:59.30 | krka | like: |
| 12:59.33 | Xuerian | Sounds like someone should be in #wowace, doing re-write #3 |
| 12:59.36 | Mr_Rabies2 | probably from all the RPers with novels for descriptions |
| 12:59.40 | krka | table.faction[character] = "alliance" |
| 12:59.51 | krka | table.realm[character] = "the server!" |
| 12:59.51 | Trela | FlagRSP would normally use about about 10mbs. FlagRSP2 is around 3mbs. |
| 13:00.06 | krka | that would make it a constant number of tables, instead of a variable amount of tables |
| 13:00.08 | Mr_Rabies2 | i use it to laugh and cry at the same time on argent dawn |
| 13:00.19 | Xuerian | Mr_Rabies2: lol. I gave up there |
| 13:00.27 | Mr_Rabies2 | i just have a level 1 |
| 13:00.30 | Mr_Rabies2 | that i use to laugh at the RPers |
| 13:00.35 | Mr_Rabies2 | and sometimes recoil in horror |
| 13:00.53 | Mr_Rabies2 | i don't have a problem with some RPers |
| 13:01.01 | Trela | I guess that makes sense, Krka, but I could have to see it an actual table layout for it to make more sense. |
| 13:01.33 | bleeter | my problem with RPers, is when they tell me what Role they want me to play |
| 13:01.33 | Mr_Rabies2 | but the majority have a huge persecution complex and either have scary sexual descriptions or incredibly emo ones :P |
| 13:01.33 | krka | is this porn or something? |
| 13:01.33 | krka | "Around her neck is a small necklace made of bright silver hair holding a tiny crystal vial that rests snugly between her large breasts." |
| 13:01.34 | Xuerian | *Night elf rogue*: "Whatevername is a infernal, with a eyepatch and a big laser gun. He walks with a stagger and sexes up the ladies" |
| 13:01.54 | Trela | Krka, yes, there is some porn in there, probably. |
| 13:02.01 | Xuerian | some porn? |
| 13:02.14 | Xuerian | It's not a day in ad unless you walk in on someone in stormwind or goldshire |
| 13:02.15 | Thrae | krka: Doesn't SavedVariablesByCharacter only load one character's table? |
| 13:02.19 | Xuerian | happyily cybering away in /em |
| 13:02.32 | Mr_Rabies2 | then there's the sane RPers that realize they're just playing a game |
| 13:02.38 | Mr_Rabies2 | and decide to take place in a storyline |
| 13:02.48 | Mr_Rabies2 | too bad there's more of the crazy ones than anything else |
| 13:02.56 | Xuerian | wow just isn't a RP game |
| 13:03.04 | Xuerian | If they really wanted to rp they should get nwn1 |
| 13:03.18 | krka | "er full breasts stand out prominently no matter how modestly she dresses, and her firm, round backside has caused more than a few men, as well as some women, to gaze after her admiringly despite her diminutive stature." |
| 13:03.23 | Trela | Most of the complaints I get are that I make more bugs than I add features. :P |
| 13:03.26 | Mr_Rabies2 | second life has some scary rpers |
| 13:03.30 | Thrae | Hey, just because I want to RP a Night Elf with a humungous slong, doesn't mean I want to cyber with anyone :D |
| 13:03.34 | Xuerian | Mr_Rabies: Uh |
| 13:03.49 | Xuerian | Mr_Rabies2: Second life.... yeah. Along with those tentacle simulators, ey? |
| 13:03.52 | SunTiger | I'll remember that Thrae |
| 13:03.56 | Thrae | Part of RP'ing is about making your character into (partly) who you WANT to be! |
| 13:04.04 | Trela | Thrae, the better question is, how did ANY ONE ever know that night elf had a huge crotch just by looking at them in plate armor? |
| 13:04.06 | Mr_Rabies2 | oh theres much worse than tentacle simulators in that horrible excuse for a game |
| 13:04.18 | Xuerian | Trela: You HAVE seen plate armor on females, right? |
| 13:04.21 | Thrae | Trela: Well, I play a Druid. |
| 13:04.23 | Mr_Rabies2 | giant codpiece |
| 13:04.36 | Xuerian | woo |
| 13:04.39 | Trela | Xuerian, since when did females have huge cocks? :P |
| 13:04.49 | Mr_Rabies2 | google futanari |
| 13:04.59 | Thrae | "As Thrae The Magnificent transforms into a Bear, one may notice he is more then well-endowed." |
| 13:05.01 | Trela | I have too much of that, thank you. |
| 13:05.05 | Mr_Rabies2 | actually don't i wouldn't recommend it to anyone mostly sane |
| 13:05.05 | Xuerian | Trela: Don't have to have a cock to have a huge crotch |
| 13:05.10 | bleeter | erm 'time;' |
| 13:05.16 | Xuerian | Thrae: Haha, I played a feral druid on Argent Dawn |
| 13:05.23 | Xuerian | They attract the weird ones in rp |
| 13:05.24 | SunTiger | why can't people RP sensible things |
| 13:05.24 | SunTiger | like |
| 13:05.35 | Xuerian | Mr_Rabies2: I'd rather not |
| 13:05.44 | SunTiger | Nightelf outrunner in a miletary regiment. |
| 13:05.47 | Mr_Rabies2 | RP a descendant of Arathor or something |
| 13:05.53 | SunTiger | i did |
| 13:05.55 | SunTiger | it was fun. |
| 13:05.55 | Xuerian | SunTiger: Because it doesn't involve sex |
| 13:05.56 | Mr_Rabies2 | stop Rping goddamn felguards and demon hunters :[ |
| 13:06.01 | SunTiger | Xuerian, ..... |
| 13:06.06 | Thrae | Actually, I roleplay Thrae as a Druid driven insane by his time spent in the Emerald Dream. He thinks he's still in there, and nothing is real. |
| 13:06.07 | SunTiger | yes thats the point |
| 13:06.13 | Xuerian | SunTiger: and that's the reason |
| 13:06.28 | SunTiger | its rping something that is every lickely to exist and actually do something in the world |
| 13:06.28 | Trela | My troll is sane. :P |
| 13:06.37 | bleeter | I also rp a low level tank, 'kantankerus'; mainly because I can get away with swearing my head off when people take aggro off me :) |
| 13:06.45 | Thrae | I like roleplaying insanity, because I like saying random things. |
| 13:06.56 | Mr_Rabies2 | Xuerian, i've seen things in SL that would make the most manly man break into a full-on bawl |
| 13:07.09 | SunTiger | thrae, roleplay something sane for once |
| 13:07.12 | SunTiger | its more challanging. |
| 13:07.24 | Thrae | Thrae on Maelstrom has an unnatural obsession with berry juice. He washes himself in it five times a day. |
| 13:07.25 | Mr_Rabies2 | i'm going to RP a fruit vendor |
| 13:07.43 | Xuerian | Mr_Rabies2: I bet I could meet some of your scary circumstances with a few of mine |
| 13:07.48 | Mr_Rabies2 | oh i dunno man |
| 13:07.50 | Xuerian | Not all, but a few |
| 13:07.51 | Mr_Rabies2 | i've seen things |
| 13:08.01 | Mr_Rabies2 | i've seen hermaphrodite hyenas with 4 breasts |
| 13:08.07 | Thrae | SunTiger: That's the same elitist crap that makes me stay away from some guilds ;) |
| 13:08.08 | Xuerian | tame |
| 13:08.26 | SunTiger | its not elitist, its NORMAL , normal is good. |
| 13:08.28 | Mr_Rabies2 | this was an avatar in SL |
| 13:08.29 | Mr_Rabies2 | :O |
| 13:08.42 | Thrae | SunTiger: Insane people cannot exist in roleplaying environments? |
| 13:08.43 | Mr_Rabies2 | someone was walking around |
| 13:09.01 | SunTiger | yes, but half the world appears to be insane. |
| 13:09.04 | Mr_Rabies2 | as a 4 titted dickgirl hyenathing |
| 13:09.14 | Trela | Feathermoon has a guild based around the guild leaders being powerful factional leaders and that loot priority goes to those leaders over other guild members. |
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| 13:09.38 | Xuerian | well |
| 13:09.48 | Xuerian | I had half of this story typed out |
| 13:09.53 | Xuerian | then I realized Cairenn might boot me >_> |
| 13:09.59 | bleeter | realm I used to be on had a guild of pirates, sole purpose was to keep booty bay closed to traffic |
| 13:10.02 | Thrae | SunTiger: So you want me to conform to normality because then I would be a non-conformist? |
| 13:10.10 | krka | anyone tried role playing a neo-type character? "maybe we're all just in a game!" |
| 13:10.19 | SunTiger | pretty much |
| 13:10.20 | Mr_Rabies2 | i mostly just hang around with the SA goons |
| 13:10.22 | krka | if so, how was that received? |
| 13:10.33 | Mr_Rabies2 | and grief furries and other weirdos :O |
| 13:11.03 | Thrae | SunTiger: If you have that attitude, you're going to be a bitter roleplayer in my mind... |
| 13:11.55 | Thrae | Roleplayers are already non-conformists. Even on so-called "RP Servers", we're still a true minority. Roleplaying should be about having fun while staying within reasonable guidelines. |
| 13:12.31 | krka | isn't it spelled roll playing btw? from rolling dice? |
| 13:12.35 | Thrae | If you make an honest attempt at roleplaying, you're a Roleplayer in my mind. |
| 13:12.36 | Mr_Rabies2 | no |
| 13:12.38 | Mr_Rabies2 | it's roleplaying |
| 13:12.42 | Mr_Rabies2 | as in playing a role :O |
| 13:12.52 | Trela | Good night! |
| 13:13.23 | Thrae | krka: You're confusing D&D with other RPGs...I've done plenty of Roleplaying that did not involve set numbers ;) |
| 13:13.35 | Mr_Rabies2 | this one time we zerg rushed a furry hot tub |
| 13:13.37 | SunTiger | or dice |
| 13:13.41 | Mr_Rabies2 | that was entertaining |
| 13:13.45 | Mr_Rabies2 | literally, too |
| 13:13.51 | Mr_Rabies2 | some guy made zergling avatars for us |
| 13:14.01 | Mr_Rabies2 | and we all teleported at the same time yelling starcraft quotes |
| 13:14.16 | Xuerian | Hahaha. |
| 13:14.57 | Mr_Rabies2 | WE REQUIRE MORE VESPENE GAS etc |
| 13:15.09 | Mr_Rabies2 | then one furry started doing leekspin with a nazi uniform on |
| 13:15.13 | Mr_Rabies2 | it was pretty bizarre |
| 13:17.09 | Mr_Rabies2 | i personally don't have much against furries, but they tend to be walking drama bombs |
| 13:17.42 | Mr_Rabies2 | most of the stuff i have against them isn't their abnormal sexuality stuff, it's their persecution complex and whatnot |
| 13:17.50 | Xuerian | Try having one as a gf. |
| 13:18.04 | Mr_Rabies2 | yeah i'd sever |
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| 13:18.37 | Mr_Rabies2 | and furry art doesn't creep me out all that much |
| 13:18.46 | Mr_Rabies2 | but like, at conventions, seeing people in fursuits |
| 13:18.54 | Mr_Rabies2 | just freaks me the hell out for some reason |
| 13:19.06 | Xuerian | yep. |
| 13:19.10 | Mr_Rabies2 | my fight or flight response starts going crazy |
| 13:19.22 | Thrae | Mr_Rabies2: http://fchan.hentaiplanet.net/ |
| 13:19.26 | Mr_Rabies2 | nooo |
| 13:19.44 | Mr_Rabies2 | you may wanna nws that for those who |
| 13:19.49 | Mr_Rabies2 | don't know what fchan is :p |
| 13:20.05 | Xuerian | the hentaiplanet should kindof warn them off |
| 13:20.25 | Thrae | Anyone who clicks on a link with a domain of "hentaiplanet" without realizing it's nsfw, while someone is in the room with them, deserves what they get ;) |
| 13:20.58 | Thrae | Mr_Rabies2: Speaking of which, how did YOU know what fchan is? I just google'd "furry porn" and got it as the 2nd link. |
| 13:21.09 | Thrae | First I heard of it...knew what 4chan was |
| 13:21.09 | Mr_Rabies2 | 4chan is how i know what fchan is |
| 13:21.10 | Cairenn | believe it or not, not everyone knows what "hentai" means. NSFW tag next time, please? |
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| 13:21.41 | Thrae | Cairenn: Bah, always the realist...fine, fine :D |
| 13:21.47 | Cairenn | thank you |
| 13:22.20 | Mr_Rabies2 | some guy in the w-hat group in second life got paid like, 20 real life bucks for making a butchery/rape barn for some furries in SL |
| 13:22.42 | Xuerian | >.o |
| 13:22.44 | krka | O_o |
| 13:22.46 | Trela | o.o |
| 13:22.47 | Mr_Rabies2 | if i was at all talented i'd make all kinds of weird stuff if it meant i got paid well enough |
| 13:22.58 | Thrae | Still, it's not like the front page has any images on it |
| 13:23.32 | Mr_Rabies2 | i think one of my friends might be a furry but i'm afraid to ask :[ |
| 13:23.33 | Cairenn | which is the reason why I didn't really yell at you, just asked you nicely for in the future |
| 13:23.48 | Mr_Rabies2 | he LARPs as a fox, apparently |
| 13:23.57 | Mr_Rabies2 | which foxes are a staple of the furry community |
| 13:23.59 | Thrae | Well, I don't normally link to graphic websites ;) |
| 13:24.05 | Xuerian | there's varying degrees of furry |
| 13:24.14 | Mr_Rabies2 | can't pick a "totem animal" or whatever? go with a fox |
| 13:24.22 | Trela | Rabies, I have a coworker who openly has pictures of his furry suit on his cubicle wall. |
| 13:24.25 | Thrae | Kitsune are so cuuute! |
| 13:24.34 | Mr_Rabies2 | bwahahaha trela |
| 13:24.38 | bleeter | and then wishes all a good night |
| 13:25.17 | Thrae | Lemme see...how many furry webcomics do I have... |
| 13:25.40 | Mr_Rabies2 | see it's not the art |
| 13:25.48 | Xuerian | It's the wackjobs |
| 13:25.52 | Mr_Rabies2 | as much as people thinking they were a bear or giraffe or something in a past life |
| 13:26.11 | Mr_Rabies2 | i mean |
| 13:26.28 | Mr_Rabies2 | i think bears are awesome, but i don't think i was one nor am attracted to them in any way |
| 13:26.38 | Mr_Rabies2 | they're just awesome |
| 13:26.44 | Mr_Rabies2 | i don't care what colbert says |
| 13:26.59 | krka | hippos! |
| 13:27.01 | krka | facts! |
| 13:27.06 | Mr_Rabies2 | hippos are pretty nifty too |
| 13:27.06 | krka | 1) hippos are mammals |
| 13:27.13 | Trela | Boobies? |
| 13:27.17 | Mr_Rabies2 | imagine an epic hippo versus a fully grown grizzly bear |
| 13:27.20 | Mr_Rabies2 | er |
| 13:27.28 | Trela | Epic Hippo? |
| 13:27.38 | Mr_Rabies2 | imagine an epic battle between a hippo and a fully grown grizzly bear |
| 13:27.45 | Mr_Rabies2 | EPIC HIPPO |
| 13:27.52 | Trela | They are already purple! |
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| 13:28.46 | Cide | (can you nod loudly?) |
| 13:29.05 | bleeter | (if you do it aggresively enough and break your neck, i suspect one can) |
| 13:29.12 | Trela | Yes, while banging your head against the desk. |
| 13:29.12 | krka | http://www.realultimatepower.net/ninja/hippo.htm |
| 13:29.27 | Cide | I suppose |
| 13:29.40 | krka | 3. The purpose of the hippo is to flip out and kill people. |
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| 13:35.32 | Thrae | http://foxtails.comicgenesis.com/, http://2kinds.com/, http://yosh.comicgen.com/, http://www.strangeacademy.com/, http://www.raizap.com/sdamned/index.htm, http://www.vgcats.com/ (may not count), http://www.elflife.com/ (sometimes NSFW), http://www.soapylemon.com/, http://www.chisuji.com/, http://www.wtfcomics.com/ (EQ!), http://www.drowtales.com/ (kinda), http://www.namirdeiter.com/ (the penultimate of furry comic communities). Not |
| 13:35.49 | Thrae | That's all the furry webcomics in my bookmarks, I think. |
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| 13:36.08 | Thrae | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:36.12 | Thrae | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:36.21 | Thrae | In case that got cut off. |
| 13:36.39 | sysrage | penny-arcade and ctrlaltdel are safe :) |
| 13:36.44 | bleeter | wtf rofl and Protection 4.22"] |
| 13:36.47 | bleeter | blah |
| 13:37.03 | bleeter | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=109912511&sid=1 |
| 13:37.49 | Osagasu | PA is anything but safe |
| 13:38.41 | foxlit | "If you put Merc out of business you will have to deal with thousands of other people that he will release the source to!!! You don't want to mess with us! " |
| 13:38.50 | foxlit | zomg, people with source code! RUN! HIDE! |
| 13:39.01 | bleeter | yeah, that was the bit I lol'd the most at |
| 13:39.13 | Xuerian | Thrae: 2kinds is awesome. Vgcats too. More, more, more! SHAZAM! |
| 13:39.16 | nevcairiel | fear me, i create source code! |
| 13:39.27 | sysrage | where do you work that PA isn't safe?? |
| 13:39.48 | foxlit | "thousands of people use Glider to avoid having to glide endlessly to 70" |
| 13:40.43 | Thrae | Xuerian: My favourite out of those is Yosh! And oh wait, I forgot one... |
| 13:40.50 | Mr_Rabies2 | <Thrae> That's all the furry webcomics in my bookmarks, I think. |
| 13:40.57 | Mr_Rabies2 | why do you have furry webcomics |
| 13:41.04 | krka | hm.. i seem to recall some old web comic that was really nsfw... about incest, necrophilia, all sorts of weird stuff |
| 13:41.04 | Mr_Rabies2 | in your bookmarks? |
| 13:41.08 | krka | cant remember the name |
| 13:41.16 | Mr_Rabies2 | you're thinking sexylosers |
| 13:41.18 | Mr_Rabies2 | i guarantee it |
| 13:41.22 | Thrae | krka: Sexy Losers |
| 13:41.39 | Xuerian | Thrae: Haven't seen yosh yet... |
| 13:41.45 | krka | ah thanks Thrae, that's it |
| 13:41.50 | krka | and Mr_Rabies |
| 13:41.54 | George_Zimmer | You're gonna like the way you look, I guarantee it. |
| 13:42.47 | Xuerian | http://www.altermeta.com/ http://www.furrymilitia.net/betterdays/ http://www.seraph-inn.com/story.php (awesome art) |
| 13:42.58 | Thrae | Xuerian: It's also a favourite of 2kinds author ;) |
| 13:43.20 | foxlit | Haha |
| 13:43.24 | Thrae | http://www.egscomics.com/ <-- another comic with furries |
| 13:43.28 | foxlit | http://phobos.apple.com/WebObjects/MZStore.woa/wa/viewArtist?id=79234745 |
| 13:43.37 | foxlit | In fact, http://phobos.apple.com/WebObjects/MZStore.woa/wa/viewAlbum?id=79234843&s=143458 |
| 13:43.46 | Mr_Rabies2 | i worry about you guys and your furry webcomics |
| 13:44.07 | Mr_Rabies2 | just please, if you own a fursuit, keep it to yourself for the sake of my respect towards you :P |
| 13:44.21 | Mr_Rabies2 | unless you're like, a mascot or something, i guess that's cool |
| 13:44.28 | nevcairiel | lol |
| 13:44.38 | Xuerian | Mr_Rabies2: Haha, no way. There's lots of really good artists though |
| 13:44.38 | Aella | But a mascot for *what*? |
| 13:44.42 | Mr_Rabies2 | though i hear a lot of mascots are furries |
| 13:44.42 | Xuerian | XD |
| 13:44.58 | Xuerian | Mr_Rabies2: The Mascot Files: Bandcamp |
| 13:45.03 | Xuerian | or wel |
| 13:45.04 | Mr_Rabies2 | think about that next time you pose with the local baseball mascot |
| 13:45.07 | Xuerian | .... mascotcamp? |
| 13:45.21 | Mr_Rabies2 | for a photo |
| 13:45.24 | Xuerian | XD |
| 13:45.29 | Xuerian | quit while you're ahead :p |
| 13:45.29 | Mr_Rabies2 | think of the horrible things he could have used that suit for |
| 13:45.31 | Thrae | Mr_Rabies2: If you judge me by my bookmarks tagged "webcomic" on http://del.icio.us/generalmx/webcomic, I am a Lesbian Transexual Furry Gaming Otaku Romantic |
| 13:45.50 | Zicon | thrae: Wanna go out some time? ;P |
| 13:45.55 | krka | do not judge us by our bookmarks! |
| 13:45.57 | Mr_Rabies2 | rofl |
| 13:45.58 | nevcairiel | lol |
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| 13:46.11 | Xuerian | haha. |
| 13:46.42 | Thrae | Xuerian: Already had seraph-inn, do you have Foxtails? The story is good, the art is kinda ehh. |
| 13:46.54 | Xuerian | Thrae: Nah, I don't |
| 13:47.06 | Xuerian | Opened all the ones I didn't have though, will read through them later :p |
| 13:47.11 | Mr_Rabies2 | the only webcomics i ever read are vgcats, pbf, penny arcade, and ctrl alt del |
| 13:47.40 | Mr_Rabies2 | vgcats is drawn by a somethingawful goon who is most definitely not a furry |
| 13:47.45 | Mr_Rabies2 | or he'd have been banned by now |
| 13:47.58 | Mr_Rabies2 | being a furry is a bannable offense at SA :p |
| 13:47.59 | krka | jeffk comics rock |
| 13:48.19 | Xuerian | Mr_Rabies http://www.dominic-deegan.com/ http://www.zapinspace.com/ http://applegeeks.com/ |
| 13:48.28 | Xuerian | Oh, and http://faith.rydia.net/ |
| 13:48.34 | Osagasu | I'm... apparently... a magic using anthropomorphic gamer geek who lives and works in an futuristic fantasy world whole using his seer powers for the good of all. |
| 13:48.37 | Xuerian | I'd link Strings of Fate if it was still around :( |
| 13:48.38 | Osagasu | !! Deegan! |
| 13:48.49 | Xuerian | dd ftw :p |
| 13:48.56 | Mr_Rabies2 | scientologists are also banned on site at SA :p |
| 13:49.02 | Xuerian | Mr_Rabies: As they should be |
| 13:49.03 | Mr_Rabies2 | sight* |
| 13:49.52 | Mr_Rabies2 | oh and recently i've been reading lfg |
| 13:49.57 | Xuerian | lfg is awesome. |
| 13:50.36 | Xuerian | Can't go wrong with Richard :p |
| 13:50.43 | Osagasu | I have... Applegeeks, CAD, Deegan, GPF, GU Comics, LFG, Megatokto, Penny Arcade, Poisoned Minds, Questionable Content, Sinfest, Tales of the Questor, and VG Cats. |
| 13:50.44 | Mr_Rabies2 | it's the only comic that makes no sense at all out of context though |
| 13:50.54 | krka | meh, my bookmarks are all just about: java, bytecode generation, latex, hungarian matching, bezier curves, game programming, dice wars, web caching, bash, javascript, cinelerra, xvid |
| 13:50.56 | Mr_Rabies2 | i stopped reading megatokyo when it stopped being funny |
| 13:51.01 | krka | not even my bookmarks are non-geeky |
| 13:51.09 | Mr_Rabies2 | when uhhh |
| 13:51.11 | Mr_Rabies2 | whats his name left |
| 13:51.14 | Xuerian | Mr_Rabies: IE when largo left |
| 13:51.16 | Mr_Rabies2 | and it was just piro |
| 13:51.17 | Mr_Rabies2 | yeah |
| 13:51.17 | Thrae | Largo |
| 13:51.19 | Osagasu | That's funny, that's about the time I started reading it because it has a good story. =P |
| 13:51.28 | Xuerian | it's all emo now, dammit piro |
| 13:51.28 | Mr_Rabies2 | it was far far too emo for me |
| 13:51.36 | Xuerian | need b33r |
| 13:51.37 | Thrae | krka: We're talking about Webcomic bookmarks...I have the same bookmarks as you, too ;) |
| 13:51.38 | Osagasu | Piro isn't emo anymore. |
| 13:51.40 | krka | none of you are listing xkcd |
| 13:51.41 | Osagasu | Trust me. |
| 13:51.42 | krka | that's weird |
| 13:51.56 | Xuerian | Osagasu: but all the b33r shticks are artifical :( |
| 13:51.59 | Mr_Rabies2 | entertainment > storyline :o |
| 13:52.05 | Mr_Rabies2 | oh |
| 13:52.09 | Mr_Rabies2 | i read xkcd too |
| 13:52.13 | Xuerian | must have b33r & cereal beowulf cluster! |
| 13:52.17 | Mr_Rabies2 | but it's not so much a webcomic as it is a mind massager |
| 13:52.19 | Osagasu | Bah. I have CU, PA, and CAD for my quick laughs in the morning. |
| 13:52.30 | Osagasu | **GU |
| 13:52.46 | Mr_Rabies2 | oh god |
| 13:52.47 | Mr_Rabies2 | hahaha |
| 13:52.57 | Mr_Rabies2 | the most recent xkcd is awesome |
| 13:52.58 | Mr_Rabies2 | http://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/thoughts.png |
| 13:53.11 | Kaso | indeed it is |
| 13:53.12 | Xuerian | rofl |
| 13:53.24 | Thrae | The latest xkcd explains me so perfectly. |
| 13:53.49 | Thrae | Penny Arcade is funny about 70% of the time. Today it's good ;) |
| 13:54.02 | Mr_Rabies2 | my friend martin's a real life quagmire(from family guy), so he doesn't even try to supress it now |
| 13:54.09 | Mr_Rabies2 | he'd say that right to the mom's face and then laugh |
| 13:54.20 | nevcairiel | lol |
| 13:55.18 | Mr_Rabies2 | he's a bit weird |
| 13:55.30 | Xuerian | http://www.blastwavecomic.com/ http://minesbigger.novablade.com/ http://www.pointlesscomic.com/ http://grim.snafu-comics.com/ http://www.chugworth.com/ http://www.collectedcurios.com/sequentialart.html http://www.sacredpie.com/ http://www.fallencomic.com http://www.tourniquet-webcomic.com/ |
| 13:55.37 | Osagasu | The point is that Penny Arcane always makes some form of commentary. |
| 13:55.39 | Mr_Rabies2 | first time i checked out his projector he quickly typed up meatspin before i could turn away in horror |
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| 13:55.43 | Osagasu | **Arcade |
| 13:55.52 | Osagasu | Damnit, I need my D&D fix |
| 13:56.13 | Mr_Rabies2 | so i got meatspin in my brain, displayed on a whole wall |
| 13:56.15 | Xuerian | Osagasu: http://www.spellsandwhistles.net/ |
| 13:56.21 | TS|Skrom | so allakhazam.com and wowinterface are collabarating |
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| 13:56.38 | Osagasu | If it makes you feel better, the one on top isn't actually a man. |
| 13:56.51 | Mr_Rabies2 | yeah a lot better |
| 13:57.02 | Xuerian | wtf |
| 13:57.03 | Mr_Rabies2 | not really, no |
| 13:57.07 | Xuerian | spellsandwhistles is gone :( |
| 13:57.08 | Osagasu | That took my to an ad page. |
| 13:57.20 | Mr_Rabies2 | DOMAAAIN SQUAATTTTERSSSS |
| 13:57.23 | Mr_Rabies2 | >:[ |
| 13:57.42 | Xuerian | =\ http://www.comicalert.com/comics/7723-spells-and-whistles/ |
| 13:57.57 | Xuerian | can see the thumbnails! >_< |
| 13:58.06 | Mr_Rabies2 | pbf is going downhill recently |
| 13:58.11 | Mr_Rabies2 | cause he's working on his book |
| 13:58.20 | Osagasu | Oh, I have OOTS for that kind of D&D fix. |
| 13:58.31 | Mr_Rabies2 | http://pbfcomics.com/archive/PBF220-Passed_On.jpg is pretty good though |
| 13:58.34 | Osagasu | But I mean dice rolling fix |
| 13:58.39 | Xuerian | It was funny =( oh yes and http://www.collectedcurios.com/sequentialart.html was another of the furry ones. http://www.collectedcurios.com/ has some more funny stuff |
| 13:59.32 | TS|Skrom | damnit but I need to get my resume in someplace fast |
| 13:59.56 | TS|Skrom | I'm frickin' sick of the sales manager here and his bull |
| 14:00.07 | TS|Skrom | "my computer's slow and it's been four days since I asked you to fix it" |
| 14:00.23 | TS|Skrom | No shit.. and 2 of those were the weekend right? |
| 14:00.46 | TS|Skrom | I guess maybe if you stopped looking at porn at work then maybe there wouldn't be a problem |
| 14:00.50 | TS|Skrom | but that's just too much to ask |
| 14:01.36 | Mr_Rabies2 | http://pbfcomics.com/archive/PBF186-Guntron_Alliance_Force.png |
| 14:01.39 | Mr_Rabies2 | ahhh i love pbf |
| 14:01.47 | Mr_Rabies2 | because the punchline isn't always so obvious |
| 14:02.14 | Xuerian | haha. |
| 14:02.24 | TS|Skrom | haha |
| 14:02.29 | TS|Skrom | green doesn't look too thrilled |
| 14:03.35 | Xuerian | http://www.collectedcurios.com/SA_0278_small.jpg |
| 14:05.13 | Xuerian | http://www.collectedcurios.com/SA_0273_small.jpg ... Ok, really truly afk now :D |
| 14:05.17 | Mr_Rabies2 | http://pbfcomics.com/archive/PBF077AD-Disassemble.jpg |
| 14:05.18 | Mr_Rabies2 | bwahahaha |
| 14:05.39 | Xuerian | XD |
| 14:06.11 | Mr_Rabies2 | it's so dark, i love it |
| 14:06.13 | Mr_Rabies2 | http://pbfcomics.com/archive/PBF073AD-Scorpy_the_Forest_Friend.jpg |
| 14:07.55 | Kaso | i do love that commic |
| 14:08.00 | Kaso | poor scorpy |
| 14:08.10 | Mr_Rabies2 | http://pbfcomics.com/archive/PBF059AD-Sheryl_and_Walbert.jpg bwahahaa |
| 14:08.44 | Xuerian | http://www.collectedcurios.com/SAS_0048_Small.jpg XD |
| 14:10.08 | Mr_Rabies2 | http://pbfcomics.com/archive/PBF047AD-Mittens.jpg :[ |
| 14:10.37 | Kaso | i havent seen that before, is that new? |
| 14:11.18 | Mr_Rabies2 | nah, pretty old |
| 14:11.55 | Mr_Rabies2 | http://pbfcomics.com/archive/PBF035AD-Mimes.jpg |
| 14:12.03 | Mr_Rabies2 | did you see when that one was in GBS, kaso |
| 14:12.22 | Mr_Rabies2 | there's always the people trying to find some deep meaning in PBF comics, but that one was horrible for it for some rason |
| 14:12.24 | Mr_Rabies2 | reason* |
| 14:12.42 | Kaso | Yah i do recall that |
| 14:12.59 | Kaso | Its mimes! Mimes are funny! Leave it at that. :> |
| 14:14.49 | Mr_Rabies2 | it's |
| 14:14.56 | Mr_Rabies2 | he has a sniper rifle :O |
| 14:14.59 | Mr_Rabies2 | see the dot |
| 14:17.25 | Thrae | http://www.chick.com/reading/tracts/0046/0046_01.asp <-- funniest webcomic |
| 14:17.37 | Kaso | MIMES! |
| 14:18.03 | Kaso | chick is quite astounding |
| 14:19.02 | Mr_Rabies2 | that's a lot of text and effort put into the art |
| 14:19.05 | Mr_Rabies2 | too much >:[ |
| 14:19.28 | Kaso | Well i know when playing world of warcraft, my guild always tries to recruit me into a witches's coven |
| 14:19.46 | Thrae | A Witches Covent or a Wiccan Covent? |
| 14:20.27 | Thrae | Covents are just gatherings, they don't mean you become a Witch |
| 14:20.28 | Xuerian | mahaha |
| 14:20.51 | Thrae | Wiccans are usually cool, I'd hang out with 'em |
| 14:21.23 | Kaso | Thrae twas just a joke about a chick tract. |
| 14:21.37 | Mr_Rabies2 | most wiccans i know are just attention whores |
| 14:21.41 | Thrae | Oh |
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| 14:22.06 | Thrae | Kaso: I thought that comic was just about a Pagan cult? Diana isn't a goddess of witches...I think |
| 14:22.51 | Kaso | All i know is it said about a witches coven there so i just copied, i only glaced at the tract |
| 14:23.02 | Kaso | most of them arent worth the 1min it would take to read them |
| 14:23.06 | Thrae | Heh |
| 14:23.47 | Thrae | Ah, but the true way to fight religious-spurred ignorance is to become as knowledgable as possible, even about their own ignorant statements ;) |
| 14:24.17 | Thrae | That reminds me, I need to read the Bible again...I haven't read it since I was 14 |
| 14:24.42 | Thrae | I read it like 2-3 times during 12-14 |
| 14:24.53 | Thrae | Good read, up there with Aesop's Fables |
| 14:26.05 | zenzelezz | I read Lord of the Rings instead |
| 14:26.29 | TS|Skrom | I hope no one thinks that Chick tracts are a true representation of what the majority of Christians actually believe... |
| 14:26.54 | TS|Skrom | If you do then I'd like to point you to www.godhatesfags.com as a true representation of baptists |
| 14:27.02 | TS|Skrom | also I've got some swampland in florida to sell you |
| 14:27.17 | Thrae | TS|Skrom: I tagged it with "conservative-neo-religious-nutjob", what do you think ;) |
| 14:27.45 | Mr_Rabies2 | http://godhatesshrimp.com/ |
| 14:27.47 | Mr_Rabies2 | nuff said |
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| 14:44.51 | Kirkburn|sleep | Off on holiday, see ya on Friday! |
| 14:45.09 | zenzelezz | time to vandalize the wiki |
| 14:45.30 | Kirkburn|sleep | lol, Adys'll keep you in line ^^ |
| 14:45.43 | Mr_Rabies2 | ow |
| 14:45.50 | Mr_Rabies2 | i just slapped my leg with a plastic fork |
| 14:45.55 | Kirkburn|sleep | Er, nice |
| 14:45.56 | zenzelezz | why? |
| 14:46.03 | Mr_Rabies2 | twas an accident |
| 14:46.03 | Kirkburn|sleep | nevcairiel, such bonds can never keep me in check |
| 14:46.14 | TS|Skrom | Blessing of Freedom! |
| 14:46.16 | Mr_Rabies2 | i was drumming with it and it slipped and slapped my leg :[ |
| 14:46.35 | nevcairiel | Kirkburn|sleep: well too bad, but good luck then! :) |
| 14:46.40 | nevcairiel | and have fun :p |
| 14:47.35 | Kirkburn|sleep | Thanks :) |
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| 14:48.54 | Thrae | http://img510.imageshack.us/my.php?image=churchsignzm7.jpg |
| 14:49.13 | Mr_Rabies2 | http://armory.worldofwarcraft.com/#guild-info.xml?r=Llane&n=Key&p=1 is my favorite Gimmick guild ever |
| 14:49.20 | Josh_Borke | lol |
| 14:51.25 | nevcairiel | you know what really worries me |
| 14:51.30 | nevcairiel | the chars are high level.. |
| 14:52.33 | Mr_Rabies2 | they're different people |
| 14:52.45 | Mr_Rabies2 | every one, or most of them at least |
| 14:53.00 | Mr_Rabies2 | i've seen 10 or 12 gathered in IF talking in /say |
| 14:54.09 | Thrae | http://img530.imageshack.us/my.php?image=churchsignso2.jpg <-- better |
| 14:54.29 | krka | what, no "alt" ? |
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| 15:06.16 | cog|work | why are the forums reacting more quickly today with realms down for maintenance than they were yesterday? |
| 15:06.41 | nevcairiel | they directed processing power from the realms servers to the forums. |
| 15:06.58 | cog|work | that would be cool :P |
| 15:07.10 | nevcairiel | too cool to be true |
| 15:08.22 | jme | they need a text only forum imo :/ |
| 15:09.05 | TC-Holding | morining |Jelly| |
| 15:09.20 | |Jelly| | Morning |
| 15:09.40 | Thunder_Child | ~moo |
| 15:09.42 | purl | mooooooooo! I am cow, hear me moo, I weigh twice as much as you. I am cow, eating grass, methane gas comes out my ass, or http://www.linuks.mine.nu/moo/ and http://www.riddleme.com/html/cow2.html |
| 15:10.03 | cog|work | TC-Holding sounds like a stock brokerage or mutual fund or something... |
| 15:10.17 | cog|work | no... venture capital firm... |
| 15:10.30 | cog|work | can i have 5 gold plz? |
| 15:10.34 | Thunder_Child | that would be nice, would mean i had money |
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| 15:10.43 | Thunder_Child | ohhh....ingame...yea sure |
| 15:10.51 | cog|work | i want to mak teh intarnet startup |
| 15:11.48 | Thunder_Child | oh? in regards to what? |
| 15:13.52 | cog|work | ima make phat bank |
| 15:14.08 | |Jelly| | still bumping the rdx topic, eh? |
| 15:14.12 | cog|work | i jsut need 5g ta start |
| 15:14.15 | cog|work | gimme plz |
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| 15:14.48 | Thunder_Child | yep |
| 15:14.53 | Thunder_Child | couldnt help it |
| 15:15.09 | Thunder_Child | diff server cog :( |
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| 15:18.13 | |Jelly| | Hmm. |
| 15:18.36 | |Jelly| | Apparently AVG decided it needed to scan twi ce at once. |
| 15:19.06 | Mr_Rabies2 | its that good |
| 15:19.11 | Mr_Rabies2 | ugh |
| 15:19.13 | |Jelly| | *shrug* |
| 15:19.21 | Mr_Rabies2 | i thought my tea water was hot enough but it's not :[ |
| 15:19.29 | Mr_Rabies2 | now my tea's all watery and stuff :( |
| 15:19.30 | |Jelly| | "Complete Test" "Detailed Complete Test" |
| 15:19.52 | |Jelly| | eww |
| 15:21.22 | |Jelly| | Stop bumping that thread, Cog! I'm tired of the "omg i have no mods" people trying to play the martyr. 8P |
| 15:22.10 | Mr_Rabies2 | what's worse than the "i don't use mods because they may have keyloggers" crew are those who thinking having mods is no different than botting |
| 15:22.27 | |Jelly| | Yeah |
| 15:23.45 | |Jelly| | I dunno. I'm just sick of people coming to the UI Forum and wanting a cookie because they don't use any mods. |
| 15:24.29 | Mr_Rabies2 | i don't mind if you don't use them, personally i love blizzard's default ui |
| 15:24.34 | Mr_Rabies2 | it just kinda got stale for me |
| 15:24.56 | |Jelly| | I don't mind if you use it, but don't hold you not using it against those of us that do. |
| 15:25.00 | Mr_Rabies2 | i was using cosmos, which barely modifies the visual UI while adding a lot of new features since....beta |
| 15:25.08 | |Jelly| | (Not saying you do..) |
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| 15:25.21 | Mr_Rabies2 | yeah i know what you mean |
| 15:25.32 | Mr_Rabies2 | ugh this tea is so weak |
| 15:25.41 | Mr_Rabies2 | should have reheated the water |
| 15:25.46 | |Jelly| | I was Titan and MobHealth only until like November of last year. Then I got into modding just in time to break them all. lol |
| 15:26.42 | Mr_Rabies2 | i really like the default ui, minus the gryphons |
| 15:26.51 | |Jelly| | I just. Don't. |
| 15:27.00 | Mr_Rabies2 | mine's setup similarly to it now with |
| 15:27.01 | |Jelly| | *shrug* Personal preference, in the end. : / |
| 15:27.04 | Thunder_Child | i started with cosmos whay back when, and evloved from there |
| 15:27.07 | Mr_Rabies2 | a slew of visual addons now |
| 15:27.15 | Mr_Rabies2 | i still have a decent chunk of cosmos |
| 15:27.28 | Mr_Rabies2 | but it seems that AnduinLothar is the only author left with any drive |
| 15:27.46 | Mr_Rabies2 | most of the rest in cosmos are burned out, quit, or busy as hell |
| 15:28.00 | Mr_Rabies2 | so when stuff breaks, i get used to not having it for months |
| 15:28.22 | Mr_Rabies2 | not saying AL isn't busy as hell, he is, or was, i dunno about now |
| 15:28.22 | |Jelly| | lol |
| 15:28.34 | Mr_Rabies2 | he was goin crazy with his senior finals and stuff last i heard |
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| 15:31.26 | Thunder_Child | bah, have to go to work now... I shall see you soon TC-Working.... |
| 15:31.42 | |Jelly| | take it easy |
| 15:31.48 | Mr_Rabies2 | slow ride |
| 15:31.49 | cog|work | Friggin idiot http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=108208461#18 |
| 15:31.56 | Mr_Rabies2 | take it ee-zay |
| 15:32.40 | Mr_Rabies2 | i love people that hijack blue threads to ask some question thats been asked 40 times |
| 15:32.51 | |Jelly| | lol |
| 15:33.00 | |Jelly| | "3) It's only 8:30... Lern2timezone" rofl |
| 15:33.10 | Mr_Rabies2 | cogwheel for mvp |
| 15:33.14 | Mr_Rabies2 | wait |
| 15:33.19 | Mr_Rabies2 | cogwheel for forum mod |
| 15:33.21 | Mr_Rabies2 | mvps can't ban |
| 15:33.22 | Mr_Rabies2 | :[ |
| 15:34.44 | |Jelly| | Gah. I was actually helpful. Without being a jerk. I feel kind of sickly. |
| 15:35.18 | mikma | cog|work: do we see a MVP coming? ;) |
| 15:35.21 | Mr_Rabies2 | What happened the fantastic realism I could imagine myself a part of? When I fight a monster with 39 alliesREALISM ENDS HERE |
| 15:35.33 | Mr_Rabies2 | from that "how mods ruin the game" thread |
| 15:35.36 | cog|work | I would rather not... |
| 15:35.49 | cog|work | I would have to restrain myself more |
| 15:35.53 | Mr_Rabies2 | yeah, you kinda have to stop being an asshole to the idiots when you get green text |
| 15:35.55 | Mr_Rabies2 | :[ |
| 15:36.00 | |Jelly| | I all but stopped reading when the WallofText critted me for 29467. |
| 15:36.07 | mikma | cog|work: stop being so active and helpful in there then |
| 15:37.11 | Mr_Rabies2 | i'm more concerned about that thread still having a red biohazard sign |
| 15:37.14 | Mr_Rabies2 | lemme fix that a bit |
| 15:37.21 | |Jelly| | lol |
| 15:38.08 | Mr_Rabies2 | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/admin.html?forumId=11114&topicId=109931651&postId=1097134185&message=Theistica&op=1&sid=1 is how you fix that problem |
| 15:38.38 | mikma | An error was encountered while processing your request :( |
| 15:38.48 | |Jelly| | lol |
| 15:38.54 | Mr_Rabies2 | probably some kind of |
| 15:38.56 | Mr_Rabies2 | session thing |
| 15:39.03 | Mr_Rabies2 | or some kind of referral thing |
| 15:39.05 | Mr_Rabies2 | i dunno |
| 15:39.12 | |Jelly| | What'd you type? |
| 15:39.16 | mikma | cog|work: hahahah that's one persistant noobie :) |
| 15:40.02 | mikma | was that even a word.. oh well |
| 15:40.08 | cog|work | TC-Working: "it is! Language Underneath Addons." <---- Don't say anything like that in #lua :P |
| 15:40.56 | Mr_Rabies2 | me? |
| 15:40.59 | Mr_Rabies2 | just "trolling" |
| 15:41.04 | Mr_Rabies2 | it's limited to 256 characters |
| 15:41.19 | cog|work | Hey... if you guys were considering buying a book on WoW programming, what would you expect it to cover? (things like slash commands, working with textures, specific stuff like that) |
| 15:41.52 | Mr_Rabies2 | how to actually get an addon off the ground |
| 15:41.54 | Mr_Rabies2 | problem is |
| 15:42.00 | Mr_Rabies2 | that's so easy to get outdated :[ |
| 15:42.48 | cog|work | assuming that away, tohugh.... |
| 15:42.54 | cog|work | s/oh/ho/ |
| 15:43.01 | Mr_Rabies2 | that's my big problem with getting started |
| 15:43.11 | |Jelly| | Ohh...is Cog writing a book? |
| 15:43.18 | Mr_Rabies2 | i can't find any guides to tell me HOW to get an addon even up and detectable by WoW |
| 15:43.33 | |Jelly| | Clad's book does that. :/ |
| 15:43.34 | Mr_Rabies2 | that arent way out of date |
| 15:43.52 | |Jelly| | I would like (if it's true) Cog's book to be an advancement on that. |
| 15:43.52 | Mr_Rabies2 | yeah, but i hear the tutorial part is only a small portion of it |
| 15:43.58 | |Jelly| | half the book |
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| 15:44.06 | |Jelly| | "half" |
| 15:46.36 | cog|work | *I'm* not writing a book... ;) |
| 15:47.10 | |Jelly| | Why, huh? |
| 15:47.12 | |Jelly| | huh?! |
| 15:47.16 | cog|work | But let's just say you understand Lua & XML and have a general idea of how the WoW API works..... |
| 15:47.18 | |Jelly| | The public must know! |
| 15:47.31 | cog|work | and how to create a basic addon skeleton |
| 15:48.06 | Josh_Borke | useful resources, GOOD guides on SetTexCoords :-) also, more concrete examples on scaling issues and positioning of frames |
| 15:48.07 | cog|work | what specific paradigms would you like addressed (like tooltip scanning, combat log parsing, saved variables, etc.) |
| 15:48.12 | Mr_Rabies2 | i'm pretty sure that's beyond both my and jelly's scope |
| 15:48.13 | Mr_Rabies2 | :p |
| 15:48.17 | |Jelly| | All I can really say is build off of Clad's book. Which I know would be kind of hard considering it wouldn't be like version 2 or whatever but the general principal (explain why you're doing what) |
| 15:48.42 | cog|work | well, I know you two aren't the only ones in this channel right now :P |
| 15:48.49 | Josh_Borke | metatable tricks |
| 15:48.51 | |Jelly| | But we're the ones talking! |
| 15:48.54 | Josh_Borke | tooltip is meh |
| 15:48.59 | Mr_Rabies2 | hrm |
| 15:49.06 | Josh_Borke | combat log scanning is important, but i'd say use a library for it |
| 15:49.22 | Mr_Rabies2 | i need to find something that replaces the default mouseover tooltip |
| 15:49.33 | |Jelly| | TinyTip = lurve |
| 15:49.45 | Mr_Rabies2 | there's one in pitbull but it doesn't override the old one and has a lower strata |
| 15:49.57 | Mr_Rabies2 | and it vanishes right away upon un-mousing over instead of slowly fading |
| 15:49.58 | Cide | cog|work: but.. thinking takes.. effort =/ |
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| 15:50.44 | cog|work | don't it, though |
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| 15:52.16 | |Jelly| | http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v117/ShawnManX/WoWScrnShot_061107_023915.jpg retch! |
| 15:52.28 | Mr_Rabies2 | dammit phone |
| 15:52.39 | Mr_Rabies2 | you were on the fedex truck 30 miles away 3 hours ago |
| 15:52.39 | |Jelly| | punch it in the head |
| 15:52.41 | Mr_Rabies2 | where are youuuuuu |
| 15:52.48 | |Jelly| | oh |
| 15:52.54 | |Jelly| | sorting facility! |
| 15:53.05 | Mr_Rabies2 | i hate the default buffs frame |
| 15:53.09 | Mr_Rabies2 | when did they change it |
| 15:53.24 | Mr_Rabies2 | because i used archaeologist before they changed it |
| 15:53.32 | |Jelly| | *shrug* |
| 15:53.33 | Mr_Rabies2 | so when they made it so you had to mouseover to see buffs i flipped out |
| 15:54.06 | |Jelly| | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=109912266&sid=1 http://img215.imageshack.us/img215/7060/0608pariscarcryinfbx3.jpg |
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| 15:55.17 | Kaydeethree | heh. that's been my image macro for qq moar for a few days now |
| 15:55.26 | |Jelly| | lol |
| 15:56.13 | |Jelly| | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=109931651&sid=1&pageNo=2 Post 39. She said she's using mods? So...she's ruining the game too? *boggle* |
| 15:56.48 | Mr_Rabies2 | 8:25 AM On FedEx vehicle for delivery |
| 15:56.50 | Mr_Rabies2 | arghhhh |
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| 16:02.02 | Kaelten | owwe that stung |
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| 16:04.55 | |Jelly| | :( no love |
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| 16:06.32 | TC-Working | it's a secret cog|work, thats why you dont see it in any official Lua papers |
| 16:07.04 | Mr_Rabies2 | it's a secret to everybody |
| 16:07.10 | Mr_Rabies2 | or is it everyone |
| 16:07.17 | TC-Working | not to me/people i am telling |
| 16:07.23 | Cide | or maybe everytwo? |
| 16:09.04 | Mr_Rabies2 | http://dsandler.org/entries/images/2006/secret-to-everybody.png |
| 16:09.08 | Mr_Rabies2 | it's everybody |
| 16:09.38 | Mr_Rabies2 | similarly: http://www.wowhead.com/?quest=3844 |
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| 16:12.13 | Shirik | holy hell. |
| 16:12.19 | Shirik | You have no idea how much crap I just went through |
| 16:12.22 | |Jelly| | Kick that test's ass? |
| 16:12.24 | Shirik | just to try to get connected to the internet |
| 16:12.26 | Shirik | ffs |
| 16:12.30 | Shirik | my IT department SUCKS |
| 16:12.32 | TC-Working | we can put you through more if you would like |
| 16:12.49 | Shirik | so get this, my computer lost its DHCP lease overnight |
| 16:13.05 | Shirik | so I had to scan the entire school network, find its gateway, go through logs and find what my old IP was (to find something valid) |
| 16:13.12 | Shirik | manually configure it, find some DNS server to use, put that in there |
| 16:13.28 | Shirik | as for the test.... by my calculations I should get a 75 |
| 16:13.34 | Shirik | worse than I wanted but better than I expected |
| 16:15.24 | Shirik | I am also beyond tired right now |
| 16:15.24 | Shirik | slept 4 hours in the last 48 |
| 16:15.25 | Shirik | doesn't work |
| 16:15.25 | nevcairiel | go to sleep, then. |
| 16:15.25 | TC-Working | ~sleep Shirik |
| 16:15.27 | purl | ACTION sends Shirik to bed without supper |
| 16:15.27 | Shirik | nah I'm going to go run this CW real quick |
| 16:15.27 | Shirik | then go to sleep |
| 16:15.27 | |Jelly| | You have two hours before servers are live. Hop on it. Then I expect you to pound away at some aceifying rdx. |
| 16:15.27 | Shirik | nah, RF servers are up |
| 16:15.27 | TC-Working | i think when the took purl down they striped a bunch of stuff |
| 16:15.27 | Shirik | unfortunately out of habit I just started up WoW instead of RF |
| 16:15.27 | |Jelly| | lol |
| 16:15.28 | |Jelly| | and what the hell is rf?!? |
| 16:15.30 | |Jelly| | other than "another game I play" lol |
| 16:15.30 | Shirik | rf online |
| 16:15.40 | |Jelly| | gah. |
| 16:15.42 | cog|work | Is that some geeky game for radio nerds? |
| 16:15.43 | Shirik | I used to work for them |
| 16:15.44 | |Jelly| | making me google my own shit |
| 16:15.50 | Shirik | cog|work: rofl |
| 16:15.55 | Shirik | |Jelly|: Let me grab you a link |
| 16:16.00 | nevcairiel | isnt that this asian anime game? |
| 16:16.04 | Shirik | ya |
| 16:16.14 | Shirik | well "anime" may not be the appropriate term |
| 16:16.17 | Shirik | it is indeed korean |
| 16:16.28 | Shirik | here: http://rf-onlinegame.com/ |
| 16:16.38 | |Jelly| | Isn't that the game that like...got serious filters put on half of Asia's internet? |
| 16:17.01 | |Jelly| | Or am I thinking of another game? |
| 16:17.10 | Shirik | uh |
| 16:17.11 | Shirik | wha? |
| 16:17.16 | |Jelly| | Who? |
| 16:17.25 | Shirik | Anyway, it's a pretty cool game, but a hell of a grind, etc. |
| 16:17.34 | |Jelly| | Eh. |
| 16:17.53 | Shirik | but the coolest part |
| 16:17.57 | Shirik | every 8 hours, there is a massive war |
| 16:18.02 | TS|Skrom | it's also crashed my firefox >< |
| 16:18.02 | Shirik | 3 races, every player online |
| 16:18.14 | Shirik | TS|Skrom: That's because codemasters sucks at programming :P |
| 16:18.21 | Shirik | actually in their defense, they didnt' code it |
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| 16:22.42 | mikma | erm. i need some help with SetScript("OnClick"..), anyone wanna try helping me? :) |
| 16:23.01 | foxlit | Ask questions, not meta-questions :) |
| 16:23.07 | Shirik | lol |
| 16:23.11 | TS|Skrom | Well when a daddy script and a mommy script love each other very much... |
| 16:23.12 | Shirik | setmetaquestion() |
| 16:23.18 | mikma | well this might require some time, so i want to know is there someon who's up for the job :D |
| 16:23.56 | Cide | if it will take some time |
| 16:23.56 | mikma | i'll commit my latest code that bugs first |
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| 16:24.58 | Cide | then you either don't know lua well enough, don't bother to reduce the problem/question to the smallest amount of relevant code/info/whatever, or something else that I thought of before I started typing this |
| 16:25.52 | mikma | anyway, here wo go. code: http://mikma-wow.googlecode.com/svn/trunk/Oratoria/Oratoria.lua |
| 16:26.17 | mikma | from rows 454 and 455 theres 2 setscripts |
| 16:26.25 | Cide | um |
| 16:26.31 | mikma | the first one, mik_tooltip_editbox1:SetScript("OnEnterPressed", function() chatwidth(arg) end) works |
| 16:26.31 | nevcairiel | you know, browsers dont have line numbers |
| 16:26.35 | Cide | exactly |
| 16:26.37 | Cide | pastey.net |
| 16:26.53 | TS|Skrom | tee hee |
| 16:26.53 | Cide | and see reason #2 |
| 16:26.53 | mikma | second, mik_tooltip_button1:SetScript("OnClick", function() chatwidth(arg) end) doesn't work |
| 16:27.05 | nevcairiel | whats arg supposed to be anyway? |
| 16:27.05 | foxlit | Now |
| 16:27.11 | cog|work | don't use global args |
| 16:27.23 | foxlit | anonymous handlers there are also redundant |
| 16:27.24 | Cide | now, reduce the problem to a smaller code sample |
| 16:27.25 | mikma | nevcairiel: it's supposed to be the a number, 1-4 |
| 16:27.25 | cog|work | you should be passing parameters to the function. |
| 16:27.29 | TS|Skrom | cog|work do you have that scripted? |
| 16:27.44 | cog|work | TS|Skrom: that would be nice :) |
| 16:27.46 | TS|Skrom | my word you are fast |
| 16:27.53 | foxlit | registered for clicks, mikma? |
| 16:28.09 | Cide | mikma: ping? |
| 16:28.19 | mikma | foxlit: LeftButtonDown registered for that |
| 16:28.20 | mikma | Cide: pong |
| 16:28.25 | nevcairiel | lol |
| 16:29.02 | Cide | take the effort to figure out where the problem is next time |
| 16:29.16 | mikma | Cide: like i said this will take some time :D |
| 16:29.27 | nevcairiel | use your time, not ours :) |
| 16:29.37 | Cide | I don't want to scan through all your code |
| 16:29.39 | mikma | it's not like i haven't troied fixing it for a huge amount of time now already |
| 16:29.48 | Cide | then what you do is |
| 16:29.52 | Cide | take the parts that don't work |
| 16:29.56 | Cide | remove everything else |
| 16:29.57 | cog|work | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=109932794 |
| 16:29.59 | mikma | Cide: that's why i told the lines what are the problem :O |
| 16:30.12 | Cide | mikma: see: I don't want to see your file |
| 16:30.19 | Cide | until you get a minimal sample of code that reproduces the issue |
| 16:30.24 | mikma | Cide: then don't help me at all |
| 16:30.30 | Cide | oh, don't worry |
| 16:30.32 | Cide | I'm not going to :) |
| 16:30.45 | mikma | fine :) |
| 16:31.02 | Cide | but I think you should respect the other people in here too |
| 16:31.08 | Cide | that put up with your laziness |
| 16:31.18 | mikma | laziness? ok! lol |
| 16:31.21 | Cide | because that's what it boils down to |
| 16:31.22 | cog|work | mikma: usually, taking the time to build a small test case will actually lead you to finding the problem yourself |
| 16:31.31 | cog|work | so you never end up needing to post the test case at all |
| 16:31.35 | Cide | that too |
| 16:31.59 | cog|work | For me, it's definitely >50% solve rate just by creating the test case |
| 16:32.01 | Cide | mikma: you wouldn't want me to paste CT_RaidAssist.lua and say "hai, fix mah prbloem plz?" do you? |
| 16:32.21 | |Jelly| | so long as it was lolcode |
| 16:32.22 | mikma | Cide: like i didn't try explaining it |
| 16:32.26 | Cide | sitting at 4769 and all... |
| 16:32.26 | nevcairiel | i really wonder why people keep doing stuff like locale.ge.lua for german translations.. |
| 16:32.32 | Cide | s/and/lines and/ |
| 16:32.35 | nevcairiel | the international language code is still de :P |
| 16:32.54 | Mr_Rabies2 | yayyyy |
| 16:32.57 | Mr_Rabies2 | my phone is here |
| 16:33.00 | Cide | mikma: it wouldn't "take a while" if you bothered to reduce the code to a small test case |
| 16:33.01 | nevcairiel | gz |
| 16:33.01 | Mr_Rabies2 | now i just have to charge it forever |
| 16:33.05 | Mr_Rabies2 | thanks at&t |
| 16:33.06 | Mr_Rabies2 | >:[ |
| 16:33.11 | cog|work | Mr_Rabies2: that happened to me last week :P |
| 16:33.17 | cog|work | got a KRZR K1m |
| 16:33.20 | Mr_Rabies2 | i can't tell if it's charged or not |
| 16:33.24 | Mr_Rabies2 | i see 3 bars on the battery thing |
| 16:33.28 | Mr_Rabies2 | but they're orange |
| 16:33.28 | foxlit | iphoneiphoneiphone? |
| 16:33.29 | mikma | sure i can try doing a small code but i don't know what will i put there since i don't know what's the exact problem with it |
| 16:33.37 | Cide | if you had a small amount of code, I could just look at your 30 lines, find whatever mistake you made in next to an instant, and help you |
| 16:33.39 | TC-Working | ~bad foxlit |
| 16:33.41 | purl | Bad foxlit, bad! No cookie for you! |
| 16:33.41 | Mr_Rabies2 | nah, mine was only 25 bucks after mail in rebate |
| 16:33.45 | TC-Working | no jesus phone for you |
| 16:33.48 | Cide | that's why you spend some time and working that out |
| 16:33.54 | cog|work | Mr_Rabies2: mine was free for renewing my contract :P |
| 16:33.54 | Mr_Rabies2 | has a 2.0 MP camera and overall not too bad for an american phone |
| 16:33.57 | Mr_Rabies2 | especially for the price |
| 16:34.02 | Mr_Rabies2 | mine was 25 bucks for renewing mine |
| 16:34.02 | nevcairiel | people actually think about the iPhone? |
| 16:34.18 | Cide | you take out irrelevant code for one |
| 16:34.19 | foxlit | It's an ipod... and a phone... and a psp... and it's not sold in Europe |
| 16:34.25 | Cide | and then you work from there |
| 16:34.29 | Mr_Rabies2 | http://www.samsung.com/Products/MobilePhones/ATTCingular/SGH_A707DAACIN.asp cog|work |
| 16:34.42 | Mr_Rabies2 | that's what i got |
| 16:34.46 | mikma | ok. small code: SetScript("OnEnterPress"..) works, SetScripts("OnClick"..) doesn't :D now i will try to tinytip it and build a pastey |
| 16:34.48 | Mr_Rabies2 | it's a direct competitor to the razrs |
| 16:34.50 | nevcairiel | i have an ipod, and a phone, and i dont really have a use for a psp |
| 16:34.52 | Mr_Rabies2 | and is better in every way i hear :O |
| 16:34.58 | nevcairiel | plus i live in europe .. guess i will pass :D |
| 16:34.58 | foxlit | SetScripts("OnClick"..) |
| 16:35.00 | Cide | mikma: there you go |
| 16:35.02 | foxlit | typo? |
| 16:35.05 | |Jelly| | http://www.samsung.com/Products/MobilePhones/ATTCingular/SGH_D807ZKACIN.asp I want |
| 16:35.06 | Mr_Rabies2 | also it's at&t branded which means it has the latest firmware |
| 16:35.08 | Mr_Rabies2 | ::DD:D |
| 16:35.39 | Mr_Rabies2 | instead of cingular branded |
| 16:35.42 | Mr_Rabies2 | i wasn't sure which i was gonna get |
| 16:35.43 | foxlit | nevcairiel: wifi internet on psp is cute; video display is > iPod |
| 16:35.45 | mikma | foxlit: i typed it, didn't copypaste so i made a typo while typing it |
| 16:36.08 | |Jelly| | FFS |
| 16:36.23 | |Jelly| | it's taking me a year to sign into Cingular's website (AT&T whatever) |
| 16:36.44 | Mr_Rabies2 | samsung makes top notch phones |
| 16:36.47 | Mr_Rabies2 | and i saw a thing on tv |
| 16:36.54 | Mr_Rabies2 | "samsung phones temporarily 50% off" |
| 16:37.03 | Mr_Rabies2 | and i was already eyeing the sync like a week before |
| 16:37.08 | Mr_Rabies2 | so i was like @_@ *gank* |
| 16:37.11 | |Jelly| | Samsung makes top notch __________________. 8P |
| 16:37.26 | Mr_Rabies2 | i'm not in a 3G area though |
| 16:37.28 | Mr_Rabies2 | right outside one |
| 16:37.29 | Mr_Rabies2 | :[ |
| 16:37.36 | Mr_Rabies2 | but it'll expand out here eventually |
| 16:38.00 | nevcairiel | whats 3G? |
| 16:38.11 | Mr_Rabies2 | at&t's new data network |
| 16:38.29 | Mr_Rabies2 | voice too apparently |
| 16:38.29 | Mr_Rabies2 | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/3g |
| 16:38.33 | nevcairiel | their answer to UMTS? |
| 16:39.43 | foxlit | 3g = video phones! |
| 16:39.50 | nevcairiel | UMTS can do that too |
| 16:40.25 | nevcairiel | in fact, i even could use that, but havent found anyone who has a video phone, and a compatible network :P |
| 16:40.55 | foxlit | nevcairiel: you live in a cave, 3G phones are quite popular around here :) |
| 16:41.07 | Mr_Rabies2 | UMTS is a 3G standard i think |
| 16:41.10 | foxlit | Though they tend to bait people with messenger |
| 16:41.11 | nevcairiel | i simply dont live in US :p |
| 16:41.14 | Kaydeethree | meh, it'd be nice if the US would freaking roll it out everywhere |
| 16:41.15 | foxlit | 4G according to wiki |
| 16:41.22 | foxlit | nevcairiel: neither do I :) |
| 16:42.10 | nevcairiel | UMTS is the state-of-the-art network we have here, broadband wifi internet, video phone, dunno what else .. didnt really use it much yet :D |
| 16:42.39 | Mr_Rabies2 | i hope it works with my wifi |
| 16:42.40 | Mr_Rabies2 | that |
| 16:42.42 | Mr_Rabies2 | would be so sweet |
| 16:42.50 | Mr_Rabies2 | apparently that's part of the 3g standard |
| 16:42.50 | nevcairiel | Universal Mobile Telecommunications System (UMTS) is one of the third-generation (3G) mobile phone technologies. |
| 16:42.52 | Mr_Rabies2 | so we'll see |
| 16:42.58 | nevcairiel | guess we are just weird not knowing the term 3G |
| 16:43.13 | Mr_Rabies2 | at&t's pushing it as 3g over here |
| 16:43.19 | foxlit | Ah, was looking at the wrong page |
| 16:43.24 | foxlit | 3GPP_Long_Term_Evolution |
| 16:43.57 | foxlit | So yeah, it's likely that 3G is actually a non-technical name for UMTS/3GSM :) |
| 16:46.08 | cog|work | zomgno!!!!! |
| 16:46.30 | cog|work | Forums will be unavailable from 4am to 7am tomorrow!!!!!11 |
| 16:46.38 | foxlit | 111!!!1111eleven? |
| 16:47.21 | ScytheBlade1 | That's okay |
| 16:47.25 | ScytheBlade1 | That's why we have IRC |
| 16:47.26 | ScytheBlade1 | (Right?) |
| 16:47.33 | foxlit | But where will I troll? |
| 16:47.42 | nevcairiel | troll in notepad |
| 16:47.45 | nevcairiel | and post it afterwards |
| 16:47.50 | ScytheBlade1 | I can always fire up another client and ask stupid questions here |
| 16:47.55 | ScytheBlade1 | Then bash myself for being stupid |
| 16:47.56 | nevcairiel | heh |
| 16:48.01 | ScytheBlade1 | If nothing else, it'd be a show! |
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| 16:56.29 | TC-Working | 4am to 7am.....who the hell gets up at that time?? on the west coast that is |
| 16:56.45 | nevcairiel | cog|work obviously |
| 16:57.38 | TC-Working | pfft, he is west coast |
| 16:57.49 | foxlit | Bah, patch one thing, break three others |
| 16:58.01 | nevcairiel | foxlit works for blizzard? |
| 16:59.05 | foxlit | No comment. |
| 16:59.11 | TC-Working | it might be up already, they dont always go directly to 11 |
| 16:59.48 | |Jelly| | My server's up : / |
| 17:00.45 | cog|work | mine is too |
| 17:01.01 | cog|work | that's how I noticed the forums would be unavailable (notice on login screen) |
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| 17:03.36 | |Jelly| | When will they be down? I just kind of skipped over it in my hurry to log on. |
| 17:05.11 | ScytheBlade1 | cog|work, I just replied to your @Addon Authors thread. |
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| 17:05.54 | cog|work | ty :) |
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| 17:06.01 | ScytheBlade1 | np |
| 17:06.03 | |Jelly| | I love when I log on my low level characters and people try to sell me crap telling me how much my gear sucks. |
| 17:06.20 | ScytheBlade1 | It highlights, largely, my ineptitudes when it comes to creating addons, and my reasons for being inept at those. |
| 17:07.31 | TC-Working | pfft, cog|work is just trying to get the free blizzcon tickets |
| 17:07.53 | ScytheBlade1 | Free blizzcon tickets? |
| 17:08.05 | cog|work | ScytheBlade1: for MVPs maybe? |
| 17:08.09 | ScytheBlade1 | Oh, haha |
| 17:08.11 | ScytheBlade1 | Gotcha |
| 17:08.21 | TC-Working | more like MVE's |
| 17:08.30 | ScytheBlade1 | I started reading the UI forum stickies to see if there was a running contest or something |
| 17:08.47 | TC-Working | no, it's for wowwiki iirc |
| 17:08.48 | cog|work | not that I know of... |
| 17:09.12 | ScytheBlade1 | Anywho, I have to head to work. Cog, in the event that I'm brain-dead and blind, please respond accordingly. :) |
| 17:09.50 | TC-Working | " * 7th June 2007 – BlizzCon 2007 Sponsorship! WoWWiki and Wikia are sponsoring two WoWWiki contributors to attend BlizzCon 2007 in Anaheim on August 3-4. Take a look at the 2007 BlizzCon Invitation for qualifications and information on how to nominate yourself. Don't delay, the last date to add yourself is next Tuesday, June 12th! |
| 17:09.51 | cog|work | I am :P |
| 17:10.10 | cog|work | TC-Working: heh... hadn't seen that... This is for .... something else <.< |
| 17:10.11 | cog|work | >.> |
| 17:10.18 | ScytheBlade1 | I'll read and reply (or kill myself) when I can. |
| 17:10.18 | ScytheBlade1 | afk |
| 17:10.57 | TC-Working | hmm...looks like wowi's premeium membership is up |
| 17:11.22 | TC-Working | or is that just for alla's site? |
| 17:11.24 | TS|Skrom | Cog, after my recent debacle with dropdowns a howTo explaining the parts of a custom dropdown menu might be nice. I.e. for my quote addon I needed a dropdown that could take more then 30 entries and be scrollable so I had to make one |
| 17:12.27 | foxlit | If you need long dropdowns, reconsider your design |
| 17:12.50 | TS|Skrom | oh okay, since I'm making a dropdown to simply list and let choose from any spell a character can know |
| 17:12.55 | TS|Skrom | yeah I'll rethink my design on that |
| 17:13.16 | foxlit | You may want to do something spellbook-style |
| 17:13.51 | TS|Skrom | no, really http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/full8323.jpg a dropdown was easiest |
| 17:13.55 | cog|work | Heh... maybe one on good UI design :P |
| 17:14.17 | TS|Skrom | it's got 10 lines, is scrollable and works perfectly for what I wanted |
| 17:14.45 | TS|Skrom | or if not a tutorial on making dropdowns, just edit the existing to list their limitations *shrug* |
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| 17:21.22 | Wraanger | heyaz |
| 17:21.46 | TC-Working | mmmm...premium gold sexyness |
| 17:21.46 | cog|work | hi |
| 17:22.30 | TC-Working | Cairenn, is there a restriction on what you can put for the custom user title? |
| 17:22.50 | Cairenn | keep it clean |
| 17:22.50 | TS|Skrom | there are adds on wowinterface.com? |
| 17:22.54 | TS|Skrom | ads* |
| 17:22.58 | TC-Working | damn, and i wanted so say what i really am |
| 17:23.00 | krka | in soviet russia, clean keeps you! |
| 17:23.10 | TC-Working | s/so/to/ |
| 17:24.36 | Cairenn | just follow the site rules - a bit risque is okay, but don't go overboard |
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| 17:24.54 | Cairenn | no severe profanity (it'll just get filtered out anyway), etc |
| 17:25.08 | TC-Working | i presume asshole is severe? |
| 17:25.22 | Cairenn | that'll be filtered, yeah |
| 17:25.26 | TC-Working | meh |
| 17:25.26 | Cairenn | damn won't |
| 17:25.32 | TC-Working | lol |
| 17:25.50 | TC-Working | well i'm just trying to describe myself... |
| 17:25.58 | TC-Working | you know, as fair woarning |
| 17:26.01 | TC-Working | warning* |
| 17:26.01 | Cairenn | heh |
| 17:26.57 | krka | can we use Ace? or is that too ugly a word? |
| 17:27.09 | Cairenn | ace is fine :p |
| 17:27.17 | TC-Working | what about ACE? |
| 17:27.20 | TC-Working | :) |
| 17:27.22 | TS|Skrom | how bout LUA |
| 17:27.23 | krka | TS|Skrom: Lua is not an acronym. |
| 17:27.25 | TS|Skrom | tee hee |
| 17:28.18 | TC-Working | damn, and my other one is 7 letters to long |
| 17:28.37 | TC-Working | hmm..if i use no spaces |
| 17:28.50 | TC-Working | still, IAMTHEWHALEPENISOFSARCASM looks kinda odd |
| 17:29.01 | Cairenn | >< |
| 17:29.32 | TC-Working | hey, people call me a dork, they are going to suffer for it |
| 17:30.01 | Cairenn | careful, or that's what I'll set your title to - "dork" |
| 17:30.28 | TC-Working | pfft, i could set my title to that...it's just not as fun as the other one |
| 17:30.39 | TC-Working | IamtheWhalePenisofSarcasm might work better |
| 17:31.10 | Cairenn | I'll have to smack you if you put that |
| 17:31.19 | TC-Working | smack away |
| 17:33.23 | TC-Working | *snicker* http://www.wowinterface.com/forums/showthread.php?p=57078#post57078 |
| 17:33.50 | Mr_Rabies2 | holy crap |
| 17:33.50 | Mr_Rabies2 | this phone |
| 17:33.50 | Mr_Rabies2 | is awesome |
| 17:38.52 | TS|Skrom | Er... Cairenn where do I report a bug that I seem to have with wowinterface? |
| 17:39.06 | Cairenn | in the bug report forum |
| 17:39.11 | TS|Skrom | kk |
| 17:39.20 | Cairenn | what's the problem? |
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| 17:41.12 | TS|Skrom | Well, I did a search for the terms: spells available, clicked description (so title and description were checked). Search loaded with 4 pages. Page 1 no problem, page 2, no problem, click on page 3 and it says "Sorry - your search term was too long." This is only when going from page 2-3+ From page 1 to any page (2 or 3) works fine, but from 2 to 3-4 it gives taht error |
| 17:41.29 | TS|Skrom | oops, loaded with 10 pages not 4 lol |
| 17:41.40 | Cairenn | huh, that's weird |
| 17:41.49 | TS|Skrom | but still going from page 2 to either 3, 4 or "last" comes with same error |
| 17:41.57 | Cairenn | well, post it in the forum so dolby-wowi_ will get a chance to look at it |
| 17:42.02 | TS|Skrom | will do |
| 17:42.07 | Cairenn | thanks, and sorry |
| 17:42.45 | TS|Skrom | oh here's why: http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/search.php?search=spells+available+spellsavailable+spellsavailablespellsavailable&title&description&sb=score&so=desc&page=4 that's the link for going to page 4 |
| 17:42.57 | TS|Skrom | the search script seems to be adding teh search terms repeatedly |
| 17:43.40 | Cairenn | weird |
| 17:43.42 | TS|Skrom | which means just increasing the limit on search terms won't help as eventually you'd still reach the limit if it keeps repeating itself indefinately |
| 17:43.54 | TS|Skrom | I'll post this in the forum asap :) |
| 17:44.01 | Cairenn | thanks TS|Skrom :) |
| 17:44.36 | dolby-wowi_ | it adds words together on purpose |
| 17:44.49 | TS|Skrom | I'll post the workaround too (in the url for the page you are on, it will usually end with page=#) change that to the page number you want to view and it goes straight there |
| 17:44.53 | dolby-wowi_ | because so many authors liketonametheremodlikethis |
| 17:44.59 | TS|Skrom | but indefinately repeating itself? |
| 17:45.28 | TS|Skrom | spells+available+spellsavailable makes sense |
| 17:45.29 | dolby-wowi_ | hmmm no it shouldnt be doing that |
| 17:45.43 | TS|Skrom | spells+available+spellsavailable+spellsavailablespellsavailable |
| 17:45.44 | TS|Skrom | that doesn't |
| 17:46.13 | dolby-wowi_ | ahh, its adding per page? |
| 17:46.17 | TS|Skrom | that was after clicking on the "2" link to go to page 4 |
| 17:46.27 | TS|Skrom | unsure to be honest because I can't get a third page to load |
| 17:46.36 | TS|Skrom | it gives me the too big message after one new page |
| 17:46.45 | TS|Skrom | let me try a shorter search term to begin with |
| 17:47.46 | TS|Skrom | okay I got to page three, here's the link to go to page 4 http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/search.php?search=short+er+shorter+shortershorter+shortershortershortershorter&title&description&sb=score&so=desc&page=4 |
| 17:48.28 | dolby-wowi_ | are you just searching title? |
| 17:49.15 | TS|Skrom | title and desc |
| 17:49.23 | TS|Skrom | &title&description |
| 17:49.50 | TS|Skrom | my search terms were short and er |
| 17:50.05 | TS|Skrom | almost looks exponential lol |
| 17:50.16 | TS|Skrom | on page 5 I get Sorry - your search term was too long. |
| 17:50.29 | dolby-wowi_ | k, I think I know where the problem is |
| 17:50.42 | dolby-wowi_ | hopefully have it fixed later tonight :) |
| 17:50.52 | TS|Skrom | heh, good luck :) |
| 17:51.05 | dolby-wowi_ | thanks for takeing the time to report it :) |
| 17:51.16 | TS|Skrom | yw |
| 18:02.45 | zenzelezz | Underbog Lurker grows in size upon seeing Zenzio! |
| 18:02.48 | zenzelezz | that is so sexually loaded |
| 18:03.48 | TS|Skrom | so did mazzle move away from the pay model they were working with? |
| 18:05.52 | cog|work | TS|Skrom: there was no pay model |
| 18:06.00 | cog|work | he was simply offering beta spots to people who donated |
| 18:06.04 | TS|Skrom | ohh |
| 18:06.29 | TS|Skrom | gotcha |
| 18:06.29 | cog|work | as soon as it went gold it was freely available |
| 18:07.51 | TS|Skrom | it's pretty neat looking, can't say I'd use it though. Even with the "space saving" mechanisms it looks too crowded for my tastes |
| 18:09.49 | TS|Skrom | heh I got a positive review, sweet :P http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=109941194&sid=5 |
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| 18:14.10 | TC-Working | hmm...someone has been editing my account... |
| 18:15.26 | TC-Working | damit, the RDX post has hit the second page already |
| 18:16.40 | cog|work | Seeing as some people have joined us since I last linked it: any feedback from you guys would be great: http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=109932794 |
| 18:16.58 | cog|work | (if you can't post on US forums, just tell me here :P) |
| 18:17.33 | TC-Working | "Let's assume for the sake of argument that you are someone who understands Lua and the basic workings of the WoW API & frame system" well that doesnt include me |
| 18:18.24 | zenzelezz | if I had a US account open I'd post "how to convert to ACE" |
| 18:18.51 | TS|Skrom | heh |
| 18:18.52 | cog|work | TC-Working: all will be revealed in time... |
| 18:18.54 | TC-Working | *snicker* @ zenzelezz |
| 18:19.22 | TS|Skrom | who cares about ace, what's this LUA I hear about all the time |
| 18:19.23 | krka | TS|Skrom: Lua is not an acronym. |
| 18:19.28 | TS|Skrom | hehe |
| 18:19.50 | TC-Working | and it sucks that krka is smart...no abusing the bot :( |
| 18:22.27 | Kaso | Nameplates! needs more nameplates cog|work !!! |
| 18:22.35 | Kaso | And speech Bubbles! |
| 18:22.41 | cog|work | Kaso: good ones! |
| 18:22.57 | krka | you can abuse it 4 times per hour if you want |
| 18:23.01 | Kaso | :< theyre the only ones i know alot about /cry |
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| 18:23.35 | TC-Working | hmm..i dont knwo of any addons that manipulate the speec bubbles |
| 18:23.40 | TC-Working | speech* |
| 18:23.43 | TC-Working | know* |
| 18:23.45 | Kaso | KasoBubbles on wowi! |
| 18:23.49 | Kaso | gogogo search |
| 18:24.06 | TC-Working | hmm..now i do |
| 18:24.07 | Kaso | http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info6862-KasoBubbles.html# |
| 18:24.28 | TC-Working | ah, but it doesnt modify it visualy...thats your next step |
| 18:24.41 | TC-Working | e.g. bg coloer by class |
| 18:24.44 | TC-Working | color* |
| 18:24.49 | TC-Working | omfg i cannot type today |
| 18:24.52 | Kaso | hmm, interesting idea |
| 18:25.49 | TC-Working | or maybe, just a colored border and a textured bg |
| 18:25.58 | TC-Working | lots of diff things can be done with it |
| 18:26.21 | Kaso | Attempt to index a number value, what the fuck how is that even possible. |
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| 18:27.07 | TS|Skrom | a = 1, z = a[1] |
| 18:27.45 | Kaso | I know what the error is, i dont see how that could have happened on line 76 of my code like this guy is reporting |
| 18:27.47 | TC-Working | hmm..maybe you can make the links clickable in the speech bubble as well |
| 18:27.57 | TS|Skrom | XD |
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| 18:31.33 | Kaso | if region:GetText() and (region:GetText()):match("[^%[]"..item.."[^%]]?") then |
| 18:31.35 | Kaso | [2007/06/07 06:36:14-1366-x218]: KasoBubbles\KasoBubbles.lua:76: attempt to index a number value |
| 18:32.05 | Kaso | unless the region returned from GetRegions is somehow a number and not a Region i dont see how i could error |
| 18:32.19 | Kaso | someone done a bad metatable hook of GetRegions maybe? |
| 18:32.20 | nevcairiel | how do you get the region? |
| 18:32.54 | Kaso | using this itterator to go through them in a for loop |
| 18:32.55 | Kaso | http://pastey.net/56742 |
| 18:34.57 | Cide | having an arg called WorldFrame scares me |
| 18:35.37 | Kaso | Well it was either just make a local copy of worldframe, or pass a copy of worldframe into the function, both served the same purpose |
| 18:35.43 | TC-Working | hmm...if you walked up to a trainer, couldnt you parse all of the skills? |
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| 18:36.06 | Cide | Kaso: but you named the arg "WorldFrame" |
| 18:36.08 | TC-Working | or did i not use that word corectly |
| 18:36.29 | Kaso | Cide and? im not sure of your issue with that. |
| 18:36.47 | Cide | so you have to call the function using custom_it(WorldFrame)? |
| 18:37.07 | Kaso | yah |
| 18:37.23 | Kaso | for i,region in custom_it(WorldFrame) do |
| 18:37.37 | Cide | why are you passing in a parameter in the first place, when it's hardcoded? |
| 18:37.45 | |Jelly| | Don't chu be touchin' dat sumbitchin boat! Boat's mine! |
| 18:37.55 | Kaso | just makes it more obveous to me what the code is doing whilst still keeping the efficceny of a local |
| 18:38.09 | Cide | capital W makes it seem like a global to me |
| 18:38.41 | Kaso | I guess i couldve given it a better name, but thats just coding style i guess. |
| 18:38.44 | Cide | well, you're free to do as you choose of course |
| 18:38.47 | Cide | but that's bad design IMO. |
| 18:39.03 | TC-Working | |Jelly|...wtf? |
| 18:39.23 | Cide | especially given that you're relying on the parameter to be a constant (WorldFrame) |
| 18:41.50 | Kaso | Well that aside, any idea how the error reported here (http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info6862-KasoBubbles.html) could possibly happen im truely mystetified (full code = http://pastey.net/56743) |
| 18:42.11 | |Jelly| | TC-Working: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t2CV_O-TDnw |
| 18:43.31 | |Jelly| | The boat is NOT a toy! |
| 18:44.11 | TC-Working | thats retarded |
| 18:44.18 | |Jelly| | You're retarded! |
| 18:44.24 | TC-Working | this we know already |
| 18:44.35 | TC-Working | doesnt make that any less retarded |
| 18:44.43 | TC-Working | Heroes as well |
| 18:46.51 | Lunessa | Squidbillies is always retarded. That's the whole point. |
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| 18:47.59 | foxlit | Did blizzard ever release decent help material for new slash commands? |
| 18:48.25 | Aella | That would be up to the web team, so no. |
| 18:48.26 | TC-Working | talkin about the post? |
| 18:48.55 | foxlit | Nah, just somewhere official with a listing of conditionals and how they work |
| 18:49.22 | cog|work | foxlit: http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=96143900&sid=1 |
| 18:49.38 | Aella | I think "official" was the key word. =( |
| 18:49.40 | cog|work | "official material" == ChatFrame.lua |
| 18:49.49 | cog|work | Plus Iriel's old sticky |
| 18:49.53 | foxlit | Nothing aimed at end-users then |
| 18:49.57 | Aella | There, "decent" is the key word. |
| 18:50.09 | Aella | Yeah, Iriel's sticky would be the closest thing. |
| 18:50.10 | cog|work | why would tehy neeed to? |
| 18:50.13 | foxlit | decent+official :) |
| 18:50.22 | foxlit | Oh, I don't know |
| 18:50.29 | foxlit | To actually use the macro system? |
| 18:50.30 | cog|work | They just outsource to sticky writers like me & neuro :P |
| 18:50.31 | Aella | ChatFrame.lua doesn't actually have the commands, just the tokens, gotta head to GlobalStrings for that, which sucks. |
| 18:51.09 | cog|work | For a list of slash commands, see globalstrings.lua. For a list of options, see chatframe.lua. For an actual guide on how to use them, see my link above |
| 18:51.26 | cog|work | it's quite complete |
| 18:51.35 | Aella | It is indeed. |
| 18:51.49 | Aella | You just can't hand someone a link and say "here, everything you need." |
| 18:52.16 | Aella | Well, yeah, you can with your sticky, I guess. |
| 18:52.20 | cog|work | also, I've heard Hacking World of Warcraft has an awesome macro guide |
| 18:52.51 | cog|work | Aella: yep. it covers macro options in their entirety as well as all (iirc) of the secure slash commands |
| 18:53.08 | TC-Working | huh, finaly found a site that gives a proper IP location tool |
| 18:53.22 | Aella | Unfortunately, not *all* slash commands. But doing so is a bear. =P |
| 18:54.30 | foxlit | cog|work: "stance:0/1/2/.../n - In a stance " |
| 18:54.40 | foxlit | How do numbers map to what I'm in? |
| 18:54.48 | cog|work | keep reading, silly |
| 18:54.59 | cog|work | :P |
| 18:55.05 | Dagron | can anyone direct me to a tutorial or a starting point for sharing addon data between clients? |
| 18:55.21 | Aella | Dagron: how much data? |
| 18:55.28 | Dagron | one table |
| 18:55.41 | Dagron | that could be fairly large >.< |
| 18:55.50 | Aella | What does it store/when does it need to be shared? |
| 18:56.09 | TS|Skrom | http://www.wowwiki.com/API_SendAddonMessage |
| 18:56.10 | foxlit | I believe Shirik has a hot serializer |
| 18:56.23 | Shirik | I have a what? |
| 18:56.32 | TS|Skrom | he's coming on to you |
| 18:56.32 | cog|work | you heard him... |
| 18:56.44 | Kaydeethree | I uh |
| 18:56.47 | Lunessa | it's ... hawt. |
| 18:56.49 | Dagron | it stores information about guild members (info i have made seperately from the game) and it needs to be shared either as often as possible or at least when they come online |
| 18:57.01 | TS|Skrom | Dagron http://www.wowwiki.com/API_SendAddonMessage |
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| 18:57.25 | foxlit | #api SendAddonMessage |
| 18:57.27 | Foxbot | foxlit: SendAddonMessage("prefix", "text", "type", "target") |
| 18:57.50 | cog|work | sweet! |
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| 18:58.01 | cog|work | #api UnitCanAssist |
| 18:58.03 | Foxbot | Could not find anything relevant, cog|work |
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| 18:58.22 | cog|work | boo |
| 18:58.24 | cog|work | :P |
| 18:58.30 | foxlit | It's wiki :) |
| 18:58.36 | Aella | Dagron: I can pastey some 200 lines of code (which aren't intended for public consumption, but work) that you could look at for one way to do add-on communication. |
| 18:58.41 | foxlit | So the page probably doesn't exist |
| 18:58.43 | Dagron | so, correct me if i'm wrong, but that SendAddonMessage is hidden, correct? |
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| 18:58.50 | Aella | Correct, Dagron. |
| 18:58.50 | foxlit | Yes |
| 18:59.00 | TS|Skrom | Dagron yes |
| 18:59.15 | TS|Skrom | it's the replacement for all the hidden channels that addons used to use to pass data |
| 18:59.24 | Kaydeethree | heh. that's interesting... someone wants to use a MIDI keyboard to play wow |
| 18:59.25 | foxlit | Well, not all of them |
| 18:59.34 | Aella | That's... neat. |
| 18:59.39 | TS|Skrom | it's the potential replacement for all the hidden channels that addons used to use to pass data |
| 18:59.45 | Kaydeethree | I kinda /jawdropped in the thread. it's on the front page |
| 18:59.48 | cog|work | except global |
| 18:59.51 | Dagron | i see that it creates an event, and so on that event how do i get the message to the other addons? |
| 18:59.53 | foxlit | except global |
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| 19:00.04 | Dagron | well, other clients i guess |
| 19:00.09 | TS|Skrom | yeah yeah okay |
| 19:00.12 | Dagron | as in, how do i read the message? |
| 19:00.15 | Kaydeethree | it works like a chat channel, just send the message across SAM() and listen to that event |
| 19:00.25 | cog|work | the event |
| 19:00.26 | Kaydeethree | like you would normal chat events |
| 19:00.30 | Dagron | alright |
| 19:00.39 | foxlit | It's fired for everyone recieving the message |
| 19:00.56 | Aella | SendAddonMessage("Prefix", "Message", "GUILD") triggers the event CHAT_MSG_ADDON with ("Prefix", "Message", "GUILD", "<sender>") |
| 19:00.59 | TS|Skrom | this:RegisterEvent("CHAT_MSG_ADDON") (someone fix me) |
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| 19:02.58 | cog|work | damn... |
| 19:03.05 | TS|Skrom | swing faster |
| 19:03.08 | ScytheBlade1 | lol |
| 19:03.14 | TS|Skrom | try Seal of the Crusader |
| 19:03.28 | Aella | Kill a few critters to get the rage for mortal strike |
| 19:03.51 | TS|Skrom | Mortal Strike! It won't make her stay connected but damn she'll know you love her! |
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| 19:06.04 | cog|work | on time that time... |
| 19:06.14 | cog|work | Resist |
| 19:06.16 | cog|work | :( |
| 19:06.18 | nevcairiel | lol |
| 19:06.21 | nevcairiel | too bad |
| 19:06.26 | Aella | Resisted an autoattack? that takes skill |
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| 19:07.33 | TS|Skrom | dodged |
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| 19:08.28 | foxlit | cog|work: so that transform table ould be summarized to (1 for classes without shapeshift bar); position on shapeshift bar for others? |
| 19:08.49 | ScytheBlade1 | Cog: I keep on harassing your @Addon authors thread ;) |
| 19:09.14 | cog|work | actually, for classes without shapeshift it would be 0 |
| 19:09.27 | cog|work | ScytheBlade1: good :) |
| 19:09.40 | cog|work | or nostance |
| 19:09.47 | foxlit | cog|work: I'm refering more to shadowform |
| 19:10.09 | cog|work | is shadowform not on the shapeshift bar? |
| 19:10.18 | TS|Skrom | nope |
| 19:10.23 | cog|work | and ghostwolf? |
| 19:10.24 | foxlit | No, it's an ordinary spell |
| 19:10.28 | TS|Skrom | nope |
| 19:10.29 | Aella | Nor ghost wolf. |
| 19:10.30 | foxlit | Probably not either |
| 19:10.32 | cog|work | ok... I'll elaborate on that then |
| 19:10.38 | cog|work | thanks for the input :) |
| 19:11.01 | TS|Skrom | only things that are on the shapeshift bar is warrior stances, druid forms and rogue stealth iirc |
| 19:11.19 | Kaydeethree | pally auras, but those aren't treated as stances |
| 19:11.21 | TS|Skrom | pally aura's technically use the bar but don't count as stances |
| 19:11.22 | Kaydeethree | think hunter auras too |
| 19:11.24 | Lunessa | ZOMG - I missed |Jelly| taking a leave of good sense yesterday? |
| 19:11.29 | TS|Skrom | hunter aspects are NOT |
| 19:11.30 | cog|work | negative on hunters |
| 19:11.40 | Kaydeethree | you missed a lot of us taking leave of sense last night |
| 19:11.44 | Kaydeethree | a bunch of it's still on page two |
| 19:11.54 | Lunessa | I'm reading page 2 now. |
| 19:12.15 | ScytheBlade1 | Heh. Last night. |
| 19:12.23 | Kaydeethree | s/last night/this morning/ |
| 19:12.24 | |Jelly| | huh? |
| 19:12.25 | ScytheBlade1 | I woke up with the most incredible migraine after that. |
| 19:12.45 | Lunessa | lolcode, ace RDX.cid, I HAZ LOLZ, GIMMEH ROFLMAO KTHX BAI |
| 19:13.23 | cog|work | next time I update my post, there will be a brief mention of that |
| 19:13.24 | foxlit | KTHX should just be the generic "end" |
| 19:13.31 | foxlit | BAI then mapping to Quit(); |
| 19:14.20 | |Jelly| | Sorry Lunessa, you missed out. |
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| 19:14.46 | Lunessa | No worries. I can still lol while reading. I'm a lot more passive. |
| 19:14.53 | |Jelly| | lol |
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| 19:15.21 | ScytheBlade1 | w t f @ http://omg.yahoo.com/ |
| 19:15.24 | ScytheBlade1 | I'm scared now |
| 19:15.53 | Kaydeethree | oO; |
| 19:16.22 | foxlit | Awesome! |
| 19:16.26 | nevcairiel | lol |
| 19:21.04 | cog|work | ScytheBlade1: responded ... <.< |
| 19:22.48 | cog|work | My grandma has a gag fart detector... it's a smoke detector looking thing that goes "Fart Detected! Fart Detected! <klaxon> Evacuate! Evacuate!" when someone walks by |
| 19:23.07 | ScytheBlade1 | cog|work, any reason for the mysticism when I request a FrameXML tutorial/HOWTO? :P |
| 19:23.15 | cog|work | yes |
| 19:23.38 | ScytheBlade1 | Is this project of yours really that top secret? |
| 19:23.44 | ScytheBlade1 | And if it is, let me in and let me help :P |
| 19:24.53 | TC-Working | hmm..very tastefully done http://img503.imageshack.us/img503/7333/wowscrnshot060707235929rk7.jpg |
| 19:25.18 | cog|work | so... many... rounded... rectangles |
| 19:25.29 | Aella | ...purple... |
| 19:25.33 | TC-Working | yes, they are called ovals |
| 19:25.40 | cog|work | TC-Working: no |
| 19:25.45 | ScytheBlade1 | Cog: you're no fun :P |
| 19:25.46 | cog|work | Aella: purple's ok by me |
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| 19:26.00 | cog|work | ScytheBlade1: I'm having a lot of fun, actually... |
| 19:26.09 | Kaydeethree | gah. too much crap on the screen for my tastes |
| 19:26.10 | Aella | Well, yeah, but it's... a lot of... purple.. |
| 19:26.11 | cog|work | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:26.21 | cog|work | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:26.25 | cog|work | GODAMNIT! |
| 19:26.30 | Kaydeethree | hahaha |
| 19:26.32 | |Jelly| | oh wow...i hadn't scrolled down...that is a lot of purple |
| 19:26.39 | krka | there's a diff between rounded rectangle and oval you know |
| 19:26.55 | ScytheBlade1 | lol @ "Ritual of Staying Put" |
| 19:27.05 | Lunessa | OW.... My eyes, they beeld. |
| 19:27.08 | Kaydeethree | I'll stick with my fairly transparent UI, kthx. http://ctscreens.net/7474 |
| 19:27.11 | cog|work | ovals are a continuous curve. rounded rects have straight edges |
| 19:27.13 | TC-Working | i know, but i am bored and it's fun to nedlle people |
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| 19:27.31 | TC-Working | needle* |
| 19:28.11 | krka | you call it needling when you incorrectly correct someone? :) |
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| 19:29.28 | TC-Working | yes |
| 19:29.44 | TC-Working | when i do it on purpase anyways |
| 19:30.44 | Lunessa | *jedimindtrick* This is not the thread you are looking for. |
| 19:30.52 | foxlit | Can lua interact with the commandline? |
| 19:31.03 | Aella | OS command line? NO. |
| 19:31.11 | Josh_Borke | standalone? yes |
| 19:31.15 | Kaydeethree | standalone, sure |
| 19:31.28 | foxlit | Obviously not wow :) |
| 19:31.33 | ScytheBlade1 | Ha |
| 19:31.35 | ScytheBlade1 | Cog: replied ;) |
| 19:31.44 | foxlit | How? :) |
| 19:31.54 | Kaso | intereact as in get input? |
| 19:32.19 | foxlit | Allow user to type something while the script is executing and read that |
| 19:32.20 | cog|work | if you're running a script from the command line, args are passed in via ... |
| 19:32.27 | cog|work | oh... that's the io library |
| 19:32.38 | Kaso | io.read() |
| 19:33.03 | foxlit | Any way to do that async? |
| 19:33.52 | Kaso | im not sure ive never looked into it |
| 19:34.36 | TC-Working | |Jelly|, you know your UI DL's as "jellys-ui-jellys-ui" |
| 19:34.38 | Lysistrata124 | is io.read blocking? elsewise i'd think it shouldn't matter that much. |
| 19:34.54 | |Jelly| | Can't say I've ever downloaded it. lol |
| 19:34.56 | Kaso | in its default form yes |
| 19:35.06 | Kaso | is it alterable? i have no idea |
| 19:35.20 | |Jelly| | I wish people would tell me what they don't like about it before rating it poorly though. |
| 19:35.55 | |Jelly| | But alas -- i don't care. It's served it's purpose for the most part. |
| 19:39.27 | Lunessa | Heh, if I could do something aesthetically (esthetically) pleasing to myself I'd release a package. |
| 19:39.35 | Josh_Borke | foxlit: look at wowbench |
| 19:39.40 | TC-Working | i may if anyone asks |
| 19:39.56 | |Jelly| | *shrug* I'd rather it be functional than pretty but I suppose a twofer is never bad. |
| 19:40.19 | Kaydeethree | that's the whole point of my ui setup. functional. I could care less for pretty crap |
| 19:40.29 | cog|work | ditto |
| 19:40.30 | TC-Working | well form should *always* follow function |
| 19:40.38 | TC-Working | but the 2 can be done |
| 19:40.40 | Kaydeethree | ...wonder how easy it'd be to trim the soundtrack window to display less |
| 19:40.52 | |Jelly| | And to be honest, I don't think my UI looks all that bad. : / |
| 19:40.58 | |Jelly| | To each their own though. |
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| 19:41.14 | Lunessa | Yes, form follows function. But I want elegance. It's the difference between a beetle and a jetta. |
| 19:41.17 | cog|work | ScytheBlade1: replied... |
| 19:42.11 | TC-Working | Lunessa, but those have different functions...it wold be more like the difference between, and BWM and a mercedez |
| 19:42.20 | TC-Working | a* |
| 19:43.09 | ScytheBlade1 | Cog: somewhat better. But not much. ;) |
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| 19:43.50 | Kaydeethree | oh hot. we've finally got enough people attuned to TK. yay for killing the loot pinata that is void reaver, finally |
| 19:43.52 | Josh_Borke | quick, hide |
| 19:43.56 | Lunessa | *shrug* Off-the-cuff comparison for the sake of making a point. Before I stick my name on it, I want it to function well, look attractive and be easy to use. |
| 19:43.57 | cog|work | what do you think of the name, then? |
| 19:43.59 | cog|work | :P |
| 19:44.04 | ScytheBlade1 | It's... unique :P |
| 19:44.11 | Lunessa | So, I haven't ever released a "ui pack". |
| 19:44.24 | TC-Working | pfft, i dont want it to be easy to use...then everyone could do it |
| 19:44.35 | cog|work | here's mine (on my lock) fwiw: http://www.ctscreens.net/7410 |
| 19:45.11 | Lunessa | Cog - are you playing at 800x600? |
| 19:45.18 | Lunessa | 1024 x 768? |
| 19:45.22 | cog|work | 1280x1024 |
| 19:45.45 | Lunessa | UI Scale set to 1? |
| 19:47.03 | clad | bullshit, no ZFS in leopard =( |
| 19:47.23 | Josh_Borke | bulls do shit |
| 19:47.27 | Josh_Borke | quite often so i've heard |
| 19:47.30 | cog|work | Lunessa: .83 |
| 19:47.30 | Kaydeethree | `yum install zfs`? |
| 19:47.33 | Kaydeethree | oh wait, leopard |
| 19:48.05 | Zek | did the us servers get patched btw? |
| 19:48.11 | Kaydeethree | nope |
| 19:48.13 | Kaydeethree | next week |
| 19:48.15 | Zek | moo |
| 19:48.21 | clad | Kaydeethree: Uhh.. try I'd like to run my core OS as zfs |
| 19:49.17 | Lunessa | I went from this: http://i177.photobucket.com/albums/w227/matt_converse/LunessaInterface.jpg to this: http://i177.photobucket.com/albums/w227/matt_converse/UnkleInterface.jpg |
| 19:49.31 | Lunessa | And I'm re-working my interface again... |
| 19:52.37 | Lunessa | I'm trying to free up as much screen space as possible. while still keeping pretty much everything to hand quickly. It's a daunting task. |
| 19:52.53 | TC-Working | i'm reworking mine as well, i would just be a lot happier if people made Party UF's that could be seperated. |
| 19:52.55 | Josh_Borke | clicktip ftw! |
| 19:53.44 | Lunessa | clicktip? Sounds vaguely dirty. |
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| 19:54.11 | Josh_Borke | hm, i don't know what i was thinking with that |
| 19:54.13 | Josh_Borke | i mean clique |
| 19:55.44 | Lunessa | I use Clique. Mostly though, I use it to cast spells that dispell, or cure. Everything else is buttons with hot keys for combat use, or a button for mouse-clicking if I don't need it often enough for a key bind. |
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| 19:56.14 | TC-Working | |Jelly|food, this is what i was talking about....i got lazy about finishing it + it was eating up 100% of my cpu (stupid work comp) http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1173/542862881_9e2b4d891a_o.jpg |
| 19:56.20 | Lunessa | I'm a pretty terrible typist, and I use arrow-keys for movement most of the time. |
| 19:56.40 | cog|work | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:56.45 | cog|work | YARGHHH!!! |
| 19:56.58 | TC-Working | lolz |
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| 19:59.17 | Lunessa | I like quartz, but I think it may be too much addon for me. I mean, it's like the swiss army knife of casting bars and mostly what I want is moveable, shows casting time and adds lag to the end. |
| 19:59.18 | TC-Working | welcome Esamynn, i do belive cog|work wants to talk to you |
| 19:59.32 | TC-Working | or not |
| 20:00.09 | cog|work | no... just want him to stop spamming connection messages >< |
| 20:00.09 | TC-Working | where did quartz come from? |
| 20:00.29 | TC-Working | oh..i doubt his is trying to fail at staying connected |
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| 20:00.43 | TC-Working | s/his/he/ |
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| 20:02.06 | Esamynn | I give up on the proxy for the time being |
| 20:02.14 | Esamynn | damn thing keeps crashing |
| 20:07.03 | Lunessa | And now on Sprokets its the time when we dance! |
| 20:07.13 | Arrowmaster | Lunessa: just disable the parts of quartz you dont need |
| 20:07.47 | Lunessa | I do; I wasn't griping, I was just saying it's more than I need. Nymbia did an awesome job. |
| 20:08.37 | Arrowmaster | best casting bar mod ever |
| 20:10.26 | Kaso | Have any of you noticed that in firefox if you shift -double click on some text it'll make everything within that span vanish |
| 20:13.26 | foxlit | firewhat? |
| 20:13.26 | TC-Working | not for me it doesnt |
| 20:13.26 | TC-Working | just hikightes |
| 20:13.27 | TC-Working | highlites |
| 20:13.27 | TC-Working | highlights? |
| 20:13.27 | TC-Working | there we go |
| 20:13.27 | Lunessa | No vanishing text for me. |
| 20:13.27 | Kaso | hmm |
| 20:13.27 | zenzelezz | depends on the element perhaps |
| 20:13.36 | zenzelezz | if you view the source afterwards you'll see it sets the attribute "visibility=hidden" |
| 20:14.13 | Kaso | yah zenzelezz |
| 20:14.21 | Kaso | so is that like a feature of firefox? if so what use is it |
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| 20:15.31 | TC-Working | retarded question "How much video RAM (memory) does your video card have?" options are between less than 128 to 1 gb....like no one has more than 1gb of ram |
| 20:15.57 | nevcairiel | more then 1gb video ram is really not that common yet tho |
| 20:15.57 | TC-Working | ohh...damit, i didnt read |
| 20:16.13 | TC-Working | besides, mine has like 7XX or something |
| 20:20.08 | Lunessa | Wait... there are video cards with 1gb of ram commercially available? |
| 20:21.19 | TC-Working | yes |
| 20:21.39 | TC-Working | i have seen 2, 4 ,and 8 |
| 20:21.44 | TC-Working | but you wouldnt want them |
| 20:21.55 | Lunessa | I need a better computer. |
| 20:21.56 | nevcairiel | nvidia quadros have that |
| 20:22.02 | TC-Working | they are workstatoion only cards |
| 20:22.08 | nevcairiel | the more normal desktop cards have max 768 |
| 20:22.09 | Kaso | and the ATi FireGL |
| 20:22.54 | TC-Working | not gaming cards, those are for rendering number crunchers |
| 20:23.01 | Lunessa | My machine is almost 2 years old now. I really want to upgrade, but $$ is tight. |
| 20:23.04 | TC-Working | e.g. the stuff they make movies with |
| 20:24.19 | Lunessa | AVID machines. :) |
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| 20:26.32 | TC-Working | thats right...we have some here...i dont get to play with them though :( |
| 20:27.02 | TC-Working | they also have their own internal gigabit fiber backbone for transfering info |
| 20:27.11 | Lunessa | They're very very nice. |
| 20:28.39 | Cairenn | *hypnotic voice* go buy premium membership *hypnotic voice* |
| 20:29.20 | foxlit | alla's evil, no! :) |
| 20:29.34 | Josh_Borke | not until i get my signed poster |
| 20:29.44 | foxlit | I mean "khazam"... how the heck do you spell that! |
| 20:29.44 | TC-Working | i have it...although some unanmed admins are screwing with my account |
| 20:30.00 | Cairenn | I told you I would |
| 20:30.36 | TC-Working | s/unanamed/"unnamed"/ |
| 20:30.58 | TC-Working | sorry, i should have made that more of a pointed referance |
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| 20:31.02 | TC-Working | i did remeber |
| 20:31.06 | TC-Working | remember* |
| 20:35.40 | TC-Working | i dont get it, are they waiting to put the blizzcon tickets on sale the last day? |
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| 20:46.46 | TC-Working | you know it's sad that a mod author has to write something like http://mikord.wowinterface.com/portal.php?id=156&a=faq&faqid=141 |
| 20:48.25 | cog|work | srsly |
| 20:48.46 | Lunessa | It's like saying "X product is better than Y product 'cause it's a Brand Name!" |
| 20:53.10 | TC-Working | btw if someone remembers what the strings look like in msbt they can correct me here http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=109933014&postId=1096754009&sid=1#1 |
| 20:58.18 | zenzelezz | the MSBT config lists the %... values for each specific event |
| 20:58.26 | zenzelezz | just click on it and it'll show the tooltip |
| 20:59.25 | TC-Working | ah, i'm not at home |
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| 21:04.55 | TC-Working | hey Lopeppeppy |
| 21:05.03 | Cairenn | hey Lopeppeppy :) |
| 21:05.15 | Cide | hi Lopeppeppy |
| 21:05.15 | cog|work | hey Lopeppeppy =D |
| 21:05.18 | Lunessa | It's the peppy gnome! |
| 21:05.25 | Mr_Rabies2 | that's an awful lot of P's |
| 21:05.35 | cog|work | <3 the letter P |
| 21:05.49 | Cide | Lo pew e pew pew e pew pew y? |
| 21:05.52 | Cide | shadow priest style |
| 21:06.12 | Cide | might be difficult to pronounce, however... |
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| 21:06.48 | Cide | hi Lopeppeppy_ |
| 21:06.54 | cog|work | hey Lopeppeppy_ |
| 21:07.00 | TC-Working | hmmm...how many Lopeppeppy_'s we gonna get? |
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| 21:07.43 | Cide | what's the maximum character length of nicknames? |
| 21:08.09 | Josh_Borke | 1 |
| 21:08.25 | a123456789012345 | apparently 16 chars |
| 21:08.31 | ScytheBlade1 | lol |
| 21:08.49 | Cide | >>> 16-("Lopeppeppy"):len() |
| 21:08.50 | Cide | Cide: 6 |
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| 21:09.04 | TC-Working | heh, we is getting flooded with Lopeppeppy's Join: Lopeppeppy___ (n=chatzill@cpe-72-230-32-5.nycap.res.rr.com) (clones with: Lopeppeppy, Lopeppeppy_, Lopeppeppy__ (3) |
| 21:09.10 | Cide | so 7! |
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| 21:09.37 | Cairenn | oi |
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| 21:10.11 | cog|work | I don't think she means to :( |
| 21:10.18 | Cairenn | no, I know, not upset |
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| 21:10.34 | Cide | why hello there! |
| 21:10.52 | TC-Working | well she did say she was an IRC noob |
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| 21:11.25 | cog|working | oi, this is confusing |
| 21:11.43 | Lunessa | I HAZ A Lopeppeppy GIMMMEH THE BOOTZ K BAI |
| 21:11.47 | cog|work | you should've stayed as cog|work... i would've booted you |
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| 21:11.54 | Josh_Borke | cog|work: i fell for that once |
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| 21:12.23 | Kaso | clones are fun! |
| 21:12.28 | Esamynn | lol |
| 21:13.25 | cog|work | http://members.tripod.com/~bardic_circle/aclone.htm |
| 21:13.52 | cog|work | not exactly SFW but text only :P |
| 21:14.21 | nevcairiel | thats a classic |
| 21:14.22 | Arrowmaster | is WDN not updated with the latest framexml? getting blank pages |
| 21:14.32 | Lunessa | Asimov was a wickedly funny man. |
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| 21:15.15 | TheCompWiz | does anyone know a way to target based on raid symbol... instead of name? |
| 21:15.23 | Arrowmaster | not possible |
| 21:15.24 | cog|work | intentionally impossible |
| 21:15.25 | Lunessa | Not possible. |
| 21:15.28 | TheCompWiz | grrr. |
| 21:15.38 | |Jelly| | GRR tp ;aziness! |
| 21:15.40 | cog|work | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=108386180&sid=1 |
| 21:15.45 | |Jelly| | GRR to lack of typing skillz! |
| 21:15.50 | |Jelly| | GRR to cog! |
| 21:16.14 | Esamynn | TheCompWiz: if it was possible, then setting icons would be a blizz only function |
| 21:16.14 | TheCompWiz | grrr = growling noise commonly used to show frustration. happy now? |
| 21:16.43 | |Jelly| | Umm. No. |
| 21:16.46 | TheCompWiz | just seems foolish to be able to mark targets... but not easily select them. |
| 21:17.03 | cog|work | TheCompWiz: they're there to help plan not to help fight |
| 21:17.08 | |Jelly| | Can't have your cake and eat it too, it seems. |
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| 21:17.20 | Josh_Borke | quick, hide |
| 21:17.28 | TheCompWiz | cog|work... than... with that logic... why have such things as "targetlasttarget" & such? |
| 21:17.40 | cog|work | if we could target them arbitrarily then they would make it impossible for addons to change them programatically |
| 21:17.53 | Arrowmaster | if they ever made it possible to target based on icon, then we would only be able to set icons based on the menu or keybinding |
| 21:18.07 | cog|work | TheCompWiz: Blizz gives us three "arbitrary" units: target, focus, and (as you pointed out) lasttarget |
| 21:18.09 | cog|work | that's it |
| 21:18.22 | nymbia | TheCompWiz: think about marking someone who needed a decurse, then spamming a decurse on that mark's unitid |
| 21:18.23 | cog|work | (lasttarget isn't a valid unit, but it is something that's kept track of for us) |
| 21:18.45 | TC-Working | does marking a target trigger an event? |
| 21:18.53 | Arrowmaster | think so |
| 21:18.58 | nymbia | if you're targeting it probably |
| 21:19.04 | nevcairiel | blizz could allow a single macro command to target a specific raid icon |
| 21:19.05 | TC-Working | w/o targeting it |
| 21:19.15 | Arrowmaster | perty sure theres an event that fires everytime a mark changes |
| 21:19.21 | nevcairiel | a macro command which stops macro executionm like a cast |
| 21:19.23 | cog|work | nevcairiel: but they'd have to make it so addons can't set the targets in the first place |
| 21:19.53 | nymbia | nevcairiel: then you'd just need to spam two keys instead of one |
| 21:19.56 | TC-Working | does the event contain the mark ID? |
| 21:20.04 | Arrowmaster | doubt it |
| 21:20.10 | TC-Working | meh |
| 21:20.15 | cog|work | I think any raider would agree that being able to programatically SET the icons is far more useful than being able to arbitrarily target them. They are mutually exclusive unless blizz decides out of the blue to bring back decursive |
| 21:20.28 | TC-Working | hmm...but you can change what the icon looks like |
| 21:20.37 | nevcairiel | depends who you ask tho .. setting is great for bossmods |
| 21:20.43 | nevcairiel | targeting is good for lazy raiders. |
| 21:20.47 | Josh_Borke | god, if they took away setting, it would suck |
| 21:20.53 | TC-Working | so if everyone has an addon, then the info can be broadcasted by the person setting the icon |
| 21:20.55 | Arrowmaster | setting is great for lazy raiders too |
| 21:21.23 | Arrowmaster | like 'hey when you get the big skull on top of you during this fight get the fuck away from everybody else' |
| 21:21.26 | nevcairiel | TheCompWiz: you lost |
| 21:21.37 | nevcairiel | we are on vashj |
| 21:22.00 | Josh_Borke | nevcairiel: mine's longer |
| 21:22.20 | nevcairiel | and borky |
| 21:22.29 | Josh_Borke | yea, it does curve quite a lot |
| 21:22.38 | Josh_Borke | my fiancee thinks the heart shape in the middle is sweet |
| 21:22.45 | nevcairiel | hehe |
| 21:23.24 | Josh_Borke | seriously though, is it fun? |
| 21:23.40 | nevcairiel | what? |
| 21:23.46 | Josh_Borke | vashj |
| 21:23.56 | nevcairiel | oh |
| 21:24.18 | TheCompWiz | is there a way to "save" a target in a variable... and revert back to the target at a later time? |
| 21:24.18 | nevcairiel | yeah the fun is cool, but its another fight where you really notice the slackers |
| 21:24.29 | Lunessa | Seriously - most "Main Tank" window mods will show you the raid icon of the main tank targets. I know CTRA and ORA do, so I'm pretty sure other raid packages will too. But targeting things auto-magic-ally via their icon? Bah. Why even brin other raiders? Just 25-box then. |
| 21:24.30 | nevcairiel | s/fun/fight/ |
| 21:24.33 | Josh_Borke | TheCompWiz: targetlasttarget |
| 21:24.46 | TheCompWiz | Josh_Borke... besides targetlasttarget :P |
| 21:25.21 | Josh_Borke | nevcairiel: i'll never see it. my entire guild is full of slackers |
| 21:25.32 | Josh_Borke | nevcairiel: there are about 10 people who aren't, and none can play at the same time |
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| 21:25.48 | nevcairiel | lol cog |
| 21:29.04 | TC-Working | hell yea we distract |
| 21:29.34 | Esamynn | TheCompWiz: set your focus unit |
| 21:29.52 | TheCompWiz | Esamynn... possible to have multiple focus units??? |
| 21:29.57 | Esamynn | no |
| 21:30.03 | TheCompWiz | figures. |
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| 21:31.15 | TC-Working | it could be done i think, since it would be pre combat. you would either have to be the one setting them or have a mod that comunicates with the person setting them |
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| 21:32.46 | TheCompWiz | idea being... if I have a shackel/polymorph/sap target... I can click one button & revert back to it... in addition to attack the previous target that i was attacking... ... and same with a heal last target kinda thing. |
| 21:32.50 | zenzelezz | I wonder what it'd take to bribe Blizzard into adding an UnloadAddon |
| 21:33.45 | Guillotine | zenzelezz: then it would be far too easy to import data from out of WoW into WoW |
| 21:33.58 | Guillotine | unload, edit file, load again |
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| 21:34.26 | TheCompWiz | and even perhaps a "my target" and "my pet's target" ... and an instant switch between the two. |
| 21:35.39 | Lunessa | TheCompWiz: You can use Focus as a valid unit for targeting a spell - on my mage I have /cast [target=focus] Polymorph:Pig - once I've set my focus I can just hit the macro to re-poly. I never have to change targets. |
| 21:36.17 | zenzelezz | Guillotine: true; but I'd settle for one that didn't save the variables |
| 21:36.27 | zenzelezz | just hate having to reload the UI |
| 21:36.34 | Guillotine | zenzelezz: I'm not even talking about SV |
| 21:36.36 | TC-Working | Cide, http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=109933119&sid=1 |
| 21:36.37 | Guillotine | the actual addon file |
| 21:36.39 | TheCompWiz | Lunessa... but again... you're talking about only 1 occourance. I usually need 2 or 3. |
| 21:37.07 | Lunessa | You get three - Target, Focus, lasttarget |
| 21:37.28 | Lunessa | And that's one more than we used to get. :) |
| 21:37.29 | zenzelezz | Guillotine: aha... still, cache the file on startup and load that one. I don't care, I just don't want to reload my UI to get rid of addons :-p |
| 21:37.37 | Cide | TC-Working: saw it, but I haven't verified it yet |
| 21:37.45 | TC-Working | ah, ok |
| 21:38.13 | Guillotine | zen: but then its loaded anyway |
| 21:38.14 | TheCompWiz | shackel target... heal target... and kill target. I want to be able to switch between those on the fly... without having to guess which was the last one I was working with etc... |
| 21:38.26 | zenzelezz | Guillotine: nope, I haxx some of my addons to be load on demand |
| 21:38.28 | zenzelezz | like KTM |
| 21:39.23 | TheCompWiz | 1 button shackels the target that I initially targeted... 1 button heals the last guy I was healing... 1 button re targets the target I was doing damage to.... |
| 21:39.32 | Lunessa | *shrug* I use a focus for shackle, and I mange to do just fine healing with raid bars out and still do some DPS. |
| 21:39.34 | TheCompWiz | all rolled up into 3 separate buttons. |
| 21:40.24 | TheCompWiz | I use focus for shackels too... (morose... etc...) but it would be nice to have a go back to hittin' button... or go back to healin' button... |
| 21:40.48 | Lunessa | Sure, nice. But we ain't got one, and ain't gettin' one. |
| 21:40.55 | TheCompWiz | there's gotta be a way to store the current target ... and revert back to it. |
| 21:41.01 | TheCompWiz | besides just 1 focus. |
| 21:41.11 | Lunessa | targeting can't be done from a script. |
| 21:41.42 | TheCompWiz | but only by generic name... which commonly... there are lots of targets with the same name. |
| 21:41.48 | Guillotine | zenzelezz: my point is that if its cached anyway, whats the point of it not being loaded yet? |
| 21:41.49 | Lunessa | If you can't /target or /target lasttarget or /target focus you're out of luck. |
| 21:41.58 | TheCompWiz | figures. |
| 21:42.23 | zenzelezz | Guillotine: I'm not asking for something that logically makes sense; I just wish I was able to unload load-on-demand addons without reloading the rest of the UI |
| 21:42.45 | TC-Working | heh, i keep seeing "Macro: Spells with no GCD" and thinking it says |
| 21:42.51 | TC-Working | "Macro: Spells with no OCD" |
| 21:43.09 | Josh_Borke | zenzelezz: too easily expoitable as gullotine points out |
| 21:43.10 | TheCompWiz | LOL |
| 21:43.31 | zenzelezz | Josh_Borke: I'm not asking for them to implement it, I'm just stating a wish; stop arguing it |
| 21:43.38 | Josh_Borke | though it would be nice |
| 21:43.38 | zenzelezz | I've already said I don't care if it never updates |
| 21:43.44 | Lunessa | TC-Working: Feeling a little OCD today? |
| 21:44.04 | TC-Working | pfft, i have never been OCD...to lazy |
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| 21:48.32 | Lunessa | lol |
| 21:50.02 | Josh_Borke | bb all |
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| 21:52.56 | TheZanke | Q: I haven't looked into anything about addons or making them. I reformatted, is there a link I can get to the toolkit I am going to need to pick it back up again?? |
| 21:53.31 | zenzelezz | the Blizzard UI extractor? |
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| 21:53.49 | Elkano | ~framexml |
| 21:53.51 | purl | get the official Blizzard Interface AddOn Kit here: http://www.blizzard.com/support/wow/?id=aww01671p or view it online at http://wdn.wowinterface.com/ |
| 21:54.01 | TheZanke | Just anything.. Like is XML better handcoded or is there a program that'll do it for you... I thought i rememberd one.. |
| 21:54.27 | TC-Working | UI builder? |
| 21:54.31 | Elkano | WoWUIDesigner from wowi? |
| 21:54.37 | TC-Working | eh, that |
| 21:55.09 | Cide | don't use that if you want to learn anything |
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| 21:55.15 | Seracht | Hey |
| 21:55.28 | TheZanke | Doesnt matter, if that is bad practice (Like Visual C++) Then I don't want it |
| 21:55.57 | Seracht | Sorry to bother you guys but just had a couple questions on mods. Just making a list of useful/necessary mods. So far I have: agUF, Quartz, Bongos, Fubar, Clearfont |
| 21:56.01 | Seracht | am I missing anything |
| 21:56.11 | Cide | um... |
| 21:56.14 | Cide | you understand |
| 21:56.16 | TC-Working | kinda personal isnt it? |
| 21:56.20 | Cide | that comes down to personal preference |
| 21:56.20 | Kaydeethree | whatever you feel like using |
| 21:56.33 | TheZanke | Seracht, I am a HUGE fan of AutoProfit |
| 21:56.37 | Cide | unless you want to list all, what, 100k mods that exist? |
| 21:56.55 | Cide | TheZanke: I'm a HUGE fan of <mod x> |
| 21:57.00 | TheZanke | ^.^ |
| 21:57.02 | Cide | every person has their favorites |
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| 21:57.14 | Cide | every single mod I've made is useful |
| 21:57.33 | Cide | so give me a second |
| 21:58.12 | Cide | you can add: CT_Core, CT_BarMod, CT_BottomBar, CT_BuffMod, CT_ExpenseHistory, CT_MailMod, CT_MapMod, CT_PartyBuffs, CT_RaidAssist, CT_RABossMods, CT_Timer, CT_UnitFrames and CT_Viewport.. to the list |
| 21:58.27 | TC-Working | ~lart Cide |
| 21:58.27 | purl | does a little 'dpkg -P Cide' action |
| 21:58.40 | Cide | oh, and mods that are not actively maintained at the moment too, I suppose... CT_RaidTracker, CT_ShieldMod |
| 21:59.03 | Cide | and deprecated mods such as CT_QuestLevels, CT_PlayerFrame, CT_TargetFrame, CT_PetHealth... |
| 21:59.09 | Cide | all very useful mods indeed! |
| 21:59.21 | Cide | (do you see my point yet?) |
| 22:03.10 | TC-Working | hahaha, " I currently use KTM, but i'd much rather use Omen since it's an Ace mod. |
| 22:03.30 | Cide | I would, too |
| 22:03.48 | TC-Working | because it's an ace mod, or because it's good? |
| 22:03.58 | Cide | it would up my fps by about 10-15 |
| 22:04.00 | Zek | i gained about 5 fps using it. |
| 22:04.04 | Cide | because it's an ace mod, of course |
| 22:04.24 | Cide | Zek: what would you attribute that gain to? |
| 22:04.54 | Zek | using same parser as prat, recap etc. and not having it's own one. and not having a polling state engine that eats cpu cycles for breakfast. |
| 22:04.57 | Zek | for a start |
| 22:05.23 | Cide | and what would you attribute that to? |
| 22:05.55 | TC-Working | damit Cide, you got me, i was beliveing you for a bit there |
| 22:06.24 | Zek | which bit. ktm using a lot of cpu? u got me. i didn't write it. |
| 22:06.48 | Lunessa | I wouldn't use either one. I've never really felt the need for a threat meter. :P |
| 22:06.55 | Cide | Zek: the polling state engine |
| 22:07.59 | Zek | their choice. not mine. i just know it's slow for me. eats a lot more cpu time. running multiple parsers and such is not good for anyone |
| 22:08.39 | Cide | Zek: are you an addon developer? |
| 22:08.41 | Zek | if you want a direct answer, ask a direct question :) |
| 22:08.48 | Zek | X-Perl |
| 22:08.56 | Cide | it would be too obvious what I was after if I did |
| 22:09.01 | Cide | you developed x-perl? |
| 22:09.04 | Zek | yes |
| 22:09.06 | Cide | alright |
| 22:09.39 | Cide | so I'm debating not releasing this upcoming mod that I have now |
| 22:09.41 | Zek | and may well have missed some of hte context of the initial question, having wiped to hydross yet again |
| 22:10.01 | Cide | it will most likely only slow people's computers down |
| 22:10.09 | Cide | since it doesn't use a shared parser |
| 22:10.10 | Kaydeethree | boo for annoying fights as the first boss of the instance |
| 22:10.24 | Zek | indeed. |
| 22:10.33 | Cide | or maybe I should just leave this channel forever, realize that it's a lost cause and shut down my website |
| 22:10.49 | Zek | or have another beer, cos you sound way too tense atm |
| 22:11.01 | Cide | I don't drink, but thanks anyway |
| 22:11.11 | Cide | and no, I'm in an excellent mood actually |
| 22:11.25 | Zek | ok. just checking ;) |
| 22:12.04 | Cide | however, it's becoming increasingly obvious that this community is ultimately doomed, destroyed by false myths |
| 22:12.17 | Wraanger | how's the cast bar frame is properly called ? dont' have DevTools loaded atm so can't check myself =( |
| 22:12.32 | Cide | I'm guessing CastingBarFrame |
| 22:12.40 | bleeter | Cide: fwiw, I know a bunch of people who'd rather slit their wrists than not have CT_MailMod ;) |
| 22:12.43 | Cide | ha, I was right. |
| 22:12.45 | pastamancer | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:12.59 | Wraanger | thanks ..will try it at once |
| 22:13.00 | Kaydeethree | one of those people would be me |
| 22:13.04 | Cide | bleeter: not worth it |
| 22:13.10 | Lysistrata124 | bleeter any recommendation what to use instead of CT_MailMod? |
| 22:13.15 | Cide | I have one |
| 22:13.17 | Cide | GMail |
| 22:13.20 | Cide | it's vastly superior |
| 22:13.26 | Zek | if you're asking whether i prefer Omen/threatlib cos it's ace2. the answer is no. i try the alternatives. and a 5 fps gain for me is enough of a incentive for me to choose the ace2. regardless of it's coding method |
| 22:13.27 | Cide | you should go download it right now |
| 22:13.37 | pastamancer | lol Cide |
| 22:13.43 | Kaydeethree | wasn't that the search/replace job? |
| 22:13.49 | Zek | and yeah. i still use ct_mailmod too :) |
| 22:13.50 | Cide | Zek: see: false myths, destroyed community, yadda yadda |
| 22:13.55 | bleeter | telnet <realmname>.wow.omg 25 for sending mail, port 110 for recieving (it's clearly POP) |
| 22:13.58 | Cide | also known as my previous reply |
| 22:14.05 | Cide | well, before the gmail yadda yadda |
| 22:14.12 | Cide | Kaydeethree: yes |
| 22:14.15 | Lysistrata124 | Well currently I don't even have WoW installed at all :X but I was curious because I tried to find an alternative but most addons didn't have one feature or another i liked ^^ |
| 22:14.30 | Cide | Lysistrata124: oh, you were serious? |
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| 22:15.13 | Cide | increases of 5-15 fps were reported by simply adding the ace2 libraries to CT_MailMod's code. coders worldwide baffled. |
| 22:15.24 | Tain | I liked my old mail addon for what I needed. But I never updated it. |
| 22:15.45 | foxlit | It's public knowledge that Ace2 is so good it makes while true do end take 4.2 seconds! |
| 22:15.52 | Lysistrata124 | Not really it will be at least 1-2 months before I start WoW again which means there will be at lest 4*10^3 new mail addons. |
| 22:16.00 | Zek | i'm not talking of myths. i'm talking of my own experience, on my pc. enable 1.. 15 fps, turn it off and use the other 20 fps... no myth, no mystery.. |
| 22:16.06 | bleeter | Kaydeethree: have you tried WoW Wining in D3D recently? I've been running around a little in the past 12 hours, and I'm getting the feeling that Wine 0.9.38 D3D > OGL. Wondering if you've tried. |
| 22:16.18 | Cide | Zek: and you attribute this to ace2.. why, exactly? |
| 22:16.22 | Kaydeethree | not lately. have they fixed the double cursor? |
| 22:16.27 | bleeter | Kaydeethree: yup |
| 22:16.47 | Kaydeethree | oh sweet. let's see |
| 22:16.50 | Kaydeethree | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:16.52 | Lysistrata124 | well gn8 ^^ |
| 22:16.57 | bleeter | Kaydeethree: and, at least on my 6800 card, there's a heck of a frame speed boost, it's close to if not better than, OGL speed |
| 22:17.05 | Zek | i don't. i attribute it to the clear evidence that it runs better for me. that it's ace2 is beside the point |
| 22:17.23 | Kaydeethree | meh. dunno if my pos 5200fx will show much of a difference |
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| 22:17.57 | Cide | Zek: surely; most authors say that |
| 22:18.04 | bleeter | hehe, fair 'nuff. But at least you'd be able to change video settings without having to relog ;) |
| 22:18.20 | Kaydeethree | meh. that's what "ApplyToForehead" is for |
| 22:18.25 | Zek | if i was to analyze the matter. it could be pinned to any number of things, shared use of parserlib mostly. but i'd have to go and run the numbners, which i'm not inclined to do. |
| 22:18.27 | Kaydeethree | nulls out the three api calls that crash wow |
| 22:18.46 | Cide | I'd wager a shared parserlib plays a minor part |
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| 22:20.18 | Zek | perhaps, perhaps not. as i said, i don't much care for the details of it atm. more concerned with making sure x-perl doesn |
| 22:20.28 | Zek | doesn't still lockup in BGs and such atm :) |
| 22:20.43 | Zek | cured most of it apparently. very few complaints any more |
| 22:20.50 | Zek | which i'm glad of. was ticking me off |
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| 22:21.10 | Kaydeethree | bah. I'm still getting double cursors and I can't enable hardware cursor in vid options |
| 22:21.11 | foxlit | So what did you do to fix it? |
| 22:21.23 | Kaydeethree | still, reasonable framerates. big improvement from a few builds ago |
| 22:21.32 | TheZanke | Woah, almost typed my super-secret 12 character alphanumeric password in here... That could've been bad... not to say i dont trust you guys... Damn Dual Monitors. |
| 22:21.52 | Zek | the slowdown seems to occur if you try to set secure template attributes before a player_entering_world event. whther that's from logging in, or zoning. |
| 22:22.08 | Zek | so having to delay it after that point somewhat |
| 22:22.18 | Zek | and remove redundancy et.c |
| 22:22.18 | Kaydeethree | meh. it's not us you should worry about... it's the chat logger that's putting everything we say on the web |
| 22:22.45 | foxlit | zomgwtfbbq28 |
| 22:22.56 | foxlit | Hey, if you didn't tell us that was your password, nobody would know the better |
| 22:23.01 | foxlit | Like that totally wasn't my NS password. |
| 22:23.23 | TC-Working | TheZanke, i have done that multiple times |
| 22:25.02 | TheZanke | Where do I go about learning this XML... Is there a difference between how WoW uses it and how it is used elsewhere? |
| 22:25.41 | bleeter | Kaydeethree: hmm, that's odd. I've gotta go afk shortly, but when I get back if you haven't 'discovered' what's causgin the cursor issue, I'll do some tolling around see if I can turn anything up |
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| 22:26.12 | bleeter | er, s/toll/tool/ |
| 22:27.07 | Lunessa | http://www.xml.org/xml/resources_focus_beginnerguide.shtml |
| 22:27.22 | TheZanke | Thank You |
| 22:27.48 | Lunessa | Fist of Dragon says - My GoogleFu is Strong! |
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| 22:29.47 | pastamancer | blargh, I've been doing some reading up on erlang and it reminded me how much I miss linked lists in lua |
| 22:29.56 | pastamancer | or rather, the lack thereof |
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| 22:30.40 | TheZanke | Yeah I can usually find anything on google I just wasnt sure if WoW uses XML a different way... I remember the first time I had looked into it I had discovered that all it is is an organization language or something and it was really hard for me to learn with school and all.. But now I am a free man with a lot of time. |
| 22:31.33 | TC-Working | e.g. no partner |
| 22:31.35 | TC-Working | :) |
| 22:31.50 | TheZanke | :-( |
| 22:32.09 | TheZanke | Meaning significant other? |
| 22:32.21 | TheZanke | I am assuming |
| 22:32.25 | TC-Working | yes |
| 22:32.39 | TheZanke | That's what I thought you were saying.. |
| 22:32.46 | TheZanke | Low blow dude... low blow.. |
| 22:32.52 | TheZanke | ^.^ |
| 22:33.02 | TC-Working | well "But now I am a free man with a lot of time." rather gave it away |
| 22:33.08 | TheZanke | Lol |
| 22:34.25 | Lunessa | XML handling is always described in the schema. However, baseline XML is a language, and learning the core is the best way to go. :) Once you know the basics, picking up the implementation differences as described in the schema documents for a project is easy. |
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| 22:37.15 | Wraanger | question ..what would be the best way for changing onscreen position of default cast bat ? |
| 22:37.17 | Wraanger | bar* |
| 22:37.21 | bleeter | Kaydeethree: hmm, it'd seem I've managed to get it stuck in an infinite loop whilst changing toons (trying to enter world)... fixme:d3d:IWineD3DQueryImpl_GetData >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> GL_INVALID_OPERATION (0x502) from glGetQueryObjectuivARB(GL_QUERY_RESULT_AVAILABLE) |
| 22:37.33 | bleeter | Kaydeethree: which can't be good in anyone's books =) |
| 22:37.49 | Kaydeethree | it's my card. I moved Config.wtf elsewhere and vid options still wouldn't let me enabled the hw cursor |
| 22:38.01 | bleeter | bummer :( |
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| 22:39.07 | bleeter | Kaydeethree: fwiw, I don't have double mouse pointer with or without the 'hardware cusrsor' video option enabled |
| 22:39.18 | Kaydeethree | odd |
| 22:39.34 | Kaydeethree | oh. hah |
| 22:39.44 | Kaydeethree | it's still using 0.9.36 |
| 22:39.53 | bleeter | grab 0.9.38 from updates-testing ;) |
| 22:40.10 | bleeter | "yum --enablerepo=updates-testing update wine", iirc |
| 22:40.40 | bleeter | assuming you're using F7 |
| 22:40.55 | Kaydeethree | yup |
| 22:41.19 | bleeter | annoys me that Democracy was broke on release on F7, still haven't got around to getting the update from Koji |
| 22:42.37 | N00bZXI | Anybody know somewhere where I could find how to see if a toon has a certain buff by name? |
| 22:43.25 | Kaydeethree | http://www.wowwiki.com/API_UnitBuff |
| 22:45.05 | N00bZXI | So I'd do something like this? 'for i=1,40 do if UnitBuff('player',1)='buffname' then break end end |
| 22:45.26 | Kaydeethree | there's an example on the page iirc |
| 22:45.57 | N00bZXI | My bad then, didn't notice. |
| 22:46.12 | Kaydeethree | huzzah. dx mode without the double-cursoring |
| 22:46.26 | bleeter | :) |
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| 22:56.27 | cog|work | if a mob has detect magic, do any buffs on it simply appear inline with its debuffs? |
| 22:56.56 | zenzelezz | think they show in a separate row... but can't recall |
| 22:57.05 | zenzelezz | last time I really saw it used was on the mobs by AQ40 entrance |
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| 22:59.22 | Kaydeethree | they show separately like buffs/debuffs do for friendly players |
| 22:59.26 | Kaydeethree | just in the reverse position |
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| 23:00.29 | N00bZXI | Disconnected from wrong server :\ |
| 23:00.32 | Kaydeethree | in the default ui it's <target frame> <rows of buffs> <rows of debuffs> for friendly players, right? |
| 23:00.49 | Kaydeethree | for hostile units it's <target frame> <rows of debuffs> <rows of buffs> |
| 23:04.20 | zenzelezz | yeah |
| 23:05.28 | Lunessa | If I recall, mostly they just show on the unit frame as kaydeethree says. It's been a while since I had to use Detect Magic. I'm glad they've added a reason to use it with TBC. |
| 23:06.16 | zenzelezz | hm, they did? On who? |
| 23:06.24 | Kaydeethree | spellstealing +350 dmg buffs ftw |
| 23:06.40 | zenzelezz | is that the Botanica one? |
| 23:06.44 | Kaydeethree | SSC |
| 23:06.49 | zenzelezz | oh, nice |
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| 23:09.18 | Lunessa | Spellsteal = good stuff. Knowing what's on someone so you know when to steal = better stuff. |
| 23:09.53 | zenzelezz | I'm not arguing its usefulness; I'm a warrior, that's why I ask :-) |
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| 23:19.27 | Lunessa | Pre-TBC, I didn't get to use it much. It wasn't like knowing which buffs something had on it made much difference to me in PVE. In PVP (which I avoid) is uppose it's more useful. |
| 23:20.19 | TheZanke | Hokay, so I learned about XML where on wowwiki can I find all of the tags usable in XML for WoW? |
| 23:20.25 | TheZanke | and like... what they mean. |
| 23:20.26 | zenzelezz | for the AQ40 guardians (the pulls of four huge guys) it helped to know who had what ability on the pull; but I agree that one single example hardly means it was very useful overall |
| 23:21.01 | Lunessa | http://www.wowwiki.com/XML_User_Interface |
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| 23:55.11 | Lunessa | Did everyone go home or something? |
| 23:55.37 | Cide | http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info6063-AceCalc-ACommandlineCalculator.html |
| 23:55.42 | Cide | I want to kill people |
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| 23:56.26 | Fin | haaaahahaha |
| 23:56.33 | Kaso | that mob is like 2 lines of script, and its ace -_- |
| 23:56.34 | Cide | god I hate ace sometimes |
| 23:56.39 | Cide | 14 fucking libraries |
| 23:56.42 | Cide | embedded |
| 23:56.43 | Fin | I'm sure it hates you too :) |
| 23:56.55 | Cide | and the mod doesn't use it for a single thing? |
| 23:56.57 | Cide | retarded |
| 23:57.18 | Kaso | hold shit |
| 23:57.24 | Kaso | he doest use anything does he |
| 23:57.39 | Lunessa | Somone should smack that author. |
| 23:57.41 | Kaso | replace AceLibrary("AceAddon-2.0"):new("AceConsole-2.0", "AceEvent-2.0") |
| 23:57.41 | Kaso | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:57.56 | Cide | yup |
| 23:58.02 | foxlit | sssh! |
| 23:58.03 | cladhaire | hahahahaha |
| 23:58.14 | foxlit | It's clearly got superior performance cause it's ace! |
| 23:58.16 | Fin | must be a pisstake |
| 23:58.23 | Fin | *has* to be |
| 23:58.30 | foxlit | Did you see hwat it does to calculate? |
| 23:58.33 | cladhaire | http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/fileinfo.php?id=6063#cmnt42370 |
| 23:58.38 | Kaso | You faith in humanity is pretty high fin |
| 23:59.05 | foxlit | sec, I'll pastey |
| 23:59.13 | Lunessa | OMFG Clad... FUNNEH! |
| 23:59.17 | cladhaire | not really |
| 23:59.18 | TC-Working | Cide, was that from the xCalc forum post? |
| 23:59.21 | cladhaire | but it kept me amused |
| 23:59.25 | cladhaire | ~seen Kirkburn |
| 23:59.27 | purl | kirkburn <n=Kirkburn@82-32-40-219.cable.ubr06.azte.blueyonder.co.uk> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowwiki, 1d 5h 37m 38s ago, saying: 'I guess I'll have to spend some time on ClearFont too later :/'. |
| 23:59.32 | Lunessa | I likes me the dry sarcasm. |
| 23:59.38 | cladhaire | =( where's kirky |
| 23:59.40 | foxlit | http://pastey.net/56759 |
| 23:59.40 | Kaso | cladhaire, kirkburn has gone on holiday |
| 23:59.43 | Kaso | back on friday |
| 23:59.45 | cladhaire | bah |
| 23:59.45 | cladhaire | okay |
| 23:59.46 | cladhaire | thanks. |
