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| 00:18.40 | Loriel | Is there an easy way to schedule a function to be called in n seconds? |
| 00:19.13 | MentalPower | OnUpdate is the only way |
| 00:26.13 | ckknight | or using a third-party library that does the scheduling for you |
| 00:26.15 | ckknight | e.g. AceEvent |
| 00:31.36 | Mr_Rabies2 | alternatively, chronos does something similar i believe |
| 00:46.43 | Industrial | its very easy to write an OnUpdate handler |
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| 02:11.29 | ckknight | gah, where's Cide? |
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| 02:21.39 | Thunder_Child | i'm going to go with...not herer |
| 02:21.41 | Thunder_Child | here* |
| 02:27.31 | ckknight | trying to add CTRA MT support to Pitbull |
| 02:27.34 | ckknight | I think I got it |
| 02:27.37 | ckknight | but I can't be sure |
| 02:27.42 | ckknight | tried to go through the lua |
| 02:27.55 | ckknight | and it's just ... ugh |
| 02:28.03 | ckknight | everything is a damn global |
| 02:28.59 | ckknight | and there didn't seem to be a proper API to figure out when the MT list changes |
| 02:29.04 | ckknight | so I had to hook one of his functions |
| 02:29.10 | ckknight | which is just bad karma |
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| 02:35.28 | Thunder_Child | lol, are you saying that cide is....messy in his lua configs |
| 02:35.47 | Thunder_Child | speaking of which...i need to try out pitbull |
| 02:42.17 | ckknight | there's so many globals in CTRA |
| 02:42.19 | ckknight | it pains me |
| 02:42.32 | ckknight | lack of namespacing = ftl |
| 02:43.52 | clad|afk | well the code is extremely legacy |
| 02:43.59 | clad|afk | not everyone has gads of time to rewrite everything *shrug* |
| 02:44.29 | clad|sleep | doesnj |
| 02:44.42 | clad|sleep | doesn't excuse it, it certainly would be nicer otherwise, but there's a good reason for it =) |
| 02:45.11 | ckknight | yea, yea |
| 02:45.20 | ckknight | some of my old code is relatively ugly |
| 02:45.20 | clad|sleep | your code wasn't/isn't all pretty either =) |
| 02:45.23 | clad|sleep | heheh |
| 02:45.28 | clad|sleep | same here |
| 02:45.31 | ckknight | my new stuff isn't bad, really |
| 02:45.36 | ckknight | but in 6 months, I'll consider it to be |
| 02:45.40 | ckknight | you know that's how it is |
| 02:45.48 | clad|sleep | by "isn't all" i more meant the older stuff you wrote that still is in use. |
| 02:45.50 | clad|sleep | aye |
| 02:46.07 | ckknight | yea |
| 02:46.14 | clad|sleep | night all |
| 02:48.18 | Industrial | nn clad|sleep |
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| 03:02.38 | Thunder_Child | hey ck |
| 03:02.56 | Thunder_Child | your buffs dont seem to attach to the 'top' properly |
| 03:03.00 | ckknight_ | hey |
| 03:03.16 | Thunder_Child | for pitbull |
| 03:03.20 | ckknight | odd |
| 03:03.22 | ckknight | it should.. |
| 03:03.26 | Thunder_Child | all of the debufs are behind the frame |
| 03:04.48 | Thunder_Child | here http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1116/527078410_ea88e6581f_o.jpg |
| 03:10.23 | Thunder_Child | movement doesnt work at all for the industrial one |
| 03:10.36 | Thunder_Child | one = layout |
| 03:10.37 | Thunder_Child | * |
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| 03:11.26 | |Jelly| | Well. I think that was about as pointless as raids can get. *sigh* |
| 03:12.40 | Thunder_Child | nor does oUF |
| 03:17.20 | zenzelezz | heh, what happened |Jelly|? |
| 03:18.11 | |Jelly| | Well. Admittedly, I've only been to Kara four times with other guilds (as mine is still working on getting groups/keyed)... Tonight, after an hour and a half, we fail on Morose a couple times and people call it off. |
| 03:18.26 | |Jelly| | WTF is the point? How are you ever supposed to learn if you're too busy taking your ball and going home? |
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| 03:24.43 | |Jelly| | Shirik! <3 |
| 03:26.21 | Cairenn|afk | I don't give a shit WHAT Don Cherry says, Pronger sure as hell deserves at minimum a suspension - personally, I think the asshole should be thrown out of the league completely |
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| 03:29.46 | Shirik | wb Cairenn |
| 03:29.50 | Cairenn | hi |
| 03:29.53 | Shirik | |Jelly| <3 |
| 03:30.09 | wobin | "And tonight on NonSequiter For the Masses...." |
| 03:30.11 | zenzelezz | great anger in this one |
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| 03:31.13 | Cairenn | the hockey game - Chris Pronger again took a player out of the game completely, this is the second time just in the last 8 games that he's tried to paralyze another player, literally |
| 03:31.43 | Cairenn | he did it in the Detroit/Ducks series, took out a Detroit player, then he did it again tonight against a Sens player |
| 03:31.50 | zenzelezz | the solution seems obvious, paralyze him |
| 03:32.00 | zenzelezz | what goes around... |
| 03:32.17 | Shirik | at least a suspension? |
| 03:32.23 | Shirik | he deserves to go to jail |
| 03:32.39 | Cairenn | I know the game gets rough and stuff, and while I don't like it (I am, after all, a girl) I can deal with it, but he just plays dirty |
| 03:33.21 | Cairenn | in the Detroit incident he tag-teamed the Detroit player right into the boards, from behind |
| 03:33.39 | Cairenn | tonight, he elbowed a guy in the back of the neck so hard that he knocked him out cold |
| 03:33.54 | wobin | yow =\ |
| 03:34.07 | wobin | That's all kinds of dangerous =\ |
| 03:34.16 | Cairenn | fights and checking and good solid hits are one thing, but that's just dirty |
| 03:34.46 | zenzelezz | it's not dirty, it's assault |
| 03:34.50 | Cairenn | (sorry, I'll hush now) |
| 03:35.01 | zenzelezz | most decent countries would let you go to court for that, even if it was in sport |
| 03:35.09 | ScytheBlade1 | Completly off topic, bragging, and looking for attention here: http://www.brantleyonline.com/images/list/wow/mongoose.jpg |
| 03:35.46 | zenzelezz | why didn't you censor Tyrande? |
| 03:35.58 | zenzelezz | Tyrngaarde |
| 03:36.08 | zenzelezz | so many times I've seen that name and I still can't spell it |
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| 03:50.28 | Mr_Rabies2 | i think hockey would be more fun with jetpacks |
| 03:52.55 | Neebler | and bladed shoulderpads |
| 03:54.55 | |Jelly| | I think you need to start with removing the rules that tells them to put down their weapon and take off their armor to fight. |
| 04:00.16 | wobin | ScytheBlade1: Oh man, what a great mage weapon =P |
| 04:00.24 | ScytheBlade1 | wobin, you like that? |
| 04:00.29 | |Jelly| | ...and waste of money/mats :/ |
| 04:00.34 | ScytheBlade1 | I like that. I crit a rogue for 320. |
| 04:00.36 | ScytheBlade1 | 320! |
| 04:00.40 | wobin | nerf! |
| 04:01.21 | ScytheBlade1 | I had all of the mats sitting around, two or three times over |
| 04:01.38 | ScytheBlade1 | And when it dropped, the only melee in the group happened to be a rogue, rogue, and feral druid |
| 04:01.40 | ScytheBlade1 | ... so.... |
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| 04:03.20 | zenzelezz | there's nothing wrong about having it on a caster if no-one in the team wanted it |
| 04:03.33 | ScytheBlade1 | It was either that or I would have sharded it |
| 04:03.48 | ScytheBlade1 | I would never have taken it over someone who wanted it, lol |
| 04:03.56 | ScytheBlade1 | But I lucked out in this case :) |
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| 04:06.43 | |Jelly| | Damn. Cog's not here. |
| 04:06.44 | zenzelezz | recently I find myself modifying some of the addons I use to be load on demand :-o |
| 04:07.27 | zenzelezz | actually found it nice to be able to load devtools without relogging; or disable it... same with a few others |
| 04:13.13 | Shirik | what |
| 04:13.16 | Shirik | cog > me or something? |
| 04:13.18 | Shirik | I see how it is |
| 04:13.22 | |Jelly| | no |
| 04:13.31 | |Jelly| | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=108302184&sid=1 |
| 04:13.58 | |Jelly| | Really, it's just me being an asshole. What else is new? |
| 04:14.04 | Shirik | wtgf |
| 04:14.22 | Shirik | so confused |
| 04:14.54 | |Jelly| | Some tard wanted Cog to do his work for him. *shrug* I called him on it. He got all mad. I lol'd. |
| 04:15.37 | Shirik | wow |
| 04:15.41 | Shirik | clique pissed off rdx >.> |
| 04:15.48 | |Jelly| | Did it now? |
| 04:15.55 | |Jelly| | *hides* |
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| 04:15.57 | Shirik | well I added some code for VFL.conflict to pick it up |
| 04:16.07 | Shirik | unfortunately, I got about 200 conflict messages |
| 04:16.49 | Shirik | totally |
| 04:16.58 | |Jelly| | I don't mess around... |
| 04:19.15 | TC-Holding | ckknight any ideas? |
| 04:19.38 | Shirik | |Jelly| :( |
| 04:19.40 | Shirik | you scared him away |
| 04:19.51 | |Jelly| | 8( |
| 04:19.51 | ckknight | Thunder_Child: about? |
| 04:19.55 | |Jelly| | I'm sorry, Shirik |
| 04:19.58 | Thunder_Child | pitbull |
| 04:20.01 | Shirik | I was enjoying that |
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| 04:22.24 | ckknight | what about it? |
| 04:22.37 | ckknight | oh, the buffs? |
| 04:22.39 | ckknight | I dunno |
| 04:22.43 | ckknight | haven't had that issue |
| 04:23.16 | ckknight | try to config it so that the buffs are in a different position |
| 04:23.18 | Thunder_Child | did you see my ss? |
| 04:23.23 | ckknight | no |
| 04:23.35 | Thunder_Child | 1 sec |
| 04:23.37 | ckknight | oh, weird |
| 04:23.45 | ckknight | yea, try to change the position |
| 04:23.46 | Thunder_Child | ok |
| 04:24.09 | AnduinLothar | is there always a QUEST_LOG_UPDATE on login? even w/o quests? |
| 04:24.12 | Thunder_Child | it changes position for that style, but not for some of the others |
| 04:24.28 | Thunder_Child | also the whole point is that it is on top |
| 04:24.41 | ckknight | style? |
| 04:25.22 | Thunder_Child | industrial |
| 04:25.31 | Thunder_Child | oUF |
| 04:25.33 | Thunder_Child | etc |
| 04:25.39 | ckknight | use ABF |
| 04:25.42 | Thunder_Child | the frames have styles.... |
| 04:25.47 | Thunder_Child | that is ABF |
| 04:25.57 | ckknight | so try to change the position, as I said |
| 04:26.09 | Thunder_Child | it will change, and it will change properly |
| 04:26.32 | Thunder_Child | although top left and bottom left are the same |
| 04:26.43 | Thunder_Child | top right and bottom right as well |
| 04:27.36 | AnduinLothar | The answer seems to be yes |
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| 04:42.25 | Thrae | Modern-Day Game Development: Step 1) Look pretty. Step 2) ???? Step 3) Profit! |
| 04:43.54 | zenzelezz | I think most of them skip step 2 also |
| 04:45.07 | Shirik | what's ???? |
| 04:46.54 | ckknight | step 3 is profit |
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| 04:55.42 | zenzelezz | I keep telling myself I should take some time to adjust my Windows sound setup so my headphones and speakers are on the same level, but I never get around to it :-| |
| 04:56.17 | zenzelezz | with my speakers on "normal" mode, I have WinAmp at 100%, with headphones I have to go to 5%; games vary how much I need to turn it down |
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| 05:03.44 | Shirik | night all |
| 05:03.55 | zenzelezz | bon nuit |
| 05:03.56 | cogwheel | yeah right |
| 05:04.02 | Shirik|zZz | :( |
| 05:04.03 | Mike-N-Go | Shirik|zZz: Night. |
| 05:04.07 | Shirik|zZz | cogwheel doesn't trust me anymore |
| 05:04.10 | cogwheel | you'll be up for another hour |
| 05:04.22 | Shirik|zZz | actually this is the first time in a while I've said I'm going to sleep and I actually am |
| 05:04.27 | Shirik|zZz | because I didn't sleep last night so >< |
| 05:04.29 | Shirik|zZz | I'm dead |
| 05:04.36 | cogwheel | lol |
| 05:04.43 | cogwheel | as you stay here and explain ... |
| 05:04.50 | Shirik|zZz | ... |
| 05:05.14 | Shirik|zZz | blame Cairenn she taught me the evil ways :P |
| 05:05.30 | cogwheel | now that, i can believe :P |
| 05:05.31 | |Jelly| | lies |
| 05:05.33 | zenzelezz | I'm the real zzzz |
| 05:07.45 | Mike-N-Go | cogwheel: Hello, again =] |
| 05:08.41 | cogwheel | at first I thought you were a spammer >< I did a /who on you and for some reason I read it wrong and thought it said you were level 1 |
| 05:09.56 | Kaydeethree | >.> |
| 05:10.09 | Mike-N-Go | cogwheel: =P |
| 05:10.26 | Mike-N-Go | WIM (WoW Instant Messenger) |
| 05:10.30 | Mike-N-Go | FTW! |
| 05:10.44 | cogwheel | I used it for a while, but it became too cumbersome |
| 05:11.30 | |Jelly| | It's a really neat idea...I don't think it'd be conducive to my UI. It might curb miss tells though lol |
| 05:13.26 | zenzelezz | missed tells are easy for me... just set up a dedicated chat window and dock it; it'll blink every time you receive a tell... and you can easily go there manually to see if you got any while away |
| 05:14.18 | |Jelly| | I meant telling the wrong person something |
| 05:14.21 | |Jelly| | "MT" if you will |
| 05:14.46 | zenzelezz | never had that problem since we got re-tell |
| 05:15.36 | Mike-N-Go | If WIM could have tabs, I would love it more. |
| 05:19.27 | zenzelezz | if I have a frame "main", with an anonymous child frame, which again has a frame called "$parentGrandChild", will it simply become mainGrandChild? I'm not very familiar with anonymous frames |
| 05:20.18 | cogwheel | I thikn that's how it works |
| 05:20.21 | cogwheel | s/kn/nk/ |
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| 05:40.55 | wobin | There's always FuBar_HeyFu |
| 05:41.02 | wobin | if you want the whisper management |
| 05:47.16 | Thunder_Child | i use that, and one other mod that show it upper mid screen |
| 05:47.29 | Thunder_Child | s/show/shows/ |
| 05:54.58 | cogwheel | :\ 83% of my addons' total CPU usage is due to RedRange... |
| 05:59.48 | |Jelly| | You outta post and ask how you can fix your framerate. |
| 06:16.13 | |Jelly| | grr |
| 06:17.13 | |Jelly| | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:17.48 | haste | SetCvar("screenshotFormat", "tga") |
| 06:17.53 | subbawt | i think a comma instead of a = |
| 06:17.59 | |Jelly| | roger |
| 06:18.08 | subbawt | does that actually work though? last i knew that only worked on MACs |
| 06:18.16 | subbawt | the screenshot format variable |
| 06:18.33 | zenzelezz | I did a /console SET screenshotFormat TGA on Windows and it worked fine |
| 06:18.46 | zenzelezz | didn't even relog |
| 06:18.57 | subbawt | hmm strange |
| 06:19.04 | subbawt | it wouldn't work for me when 2.1.0 hit the PTRs |
| 06:19.10 | |Jelly| | Yeah. It works on windows. |
| 06:19.28 | |Jelly| | and now, I have my pretty screenshots back |
| 06:19.33 | haste | subbawt: tga and jpg works under Windows, tga, png and jpg works under mac |
| 06:19.49 | subbawt | ahh hmm maybe i was trying png |
| 06:19.55 | |Jelly| | *cry* I'd much rather it be png |
| 06:19.55 | subbawt | i probably was :| |
| 06:20.16 | haste | I have a tga2png bash script, not much work |
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| 06:55.10 | Thunder_Child | night Cairenn|afk |
| 06:55.38 | Thunder_Child | or should i say person who is here 90% of the time she is afk.... |
| 06:55.57 | Thunder_Child | s/afk/Cairenn|afk/ |
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| 07:03.17 | Guillotine | nymbia: ping |
| 07:04.17 | Guillotine | ~seen nymbia |
| 07:04.48 | purl | nymbia is currently on #wowi-lounge (8h 45m 58s) #wowace (8h 45m 58s). Has said a total of 11 messages. Is idling for 5m 11s, last said: 'Fisker-: uhh.. it should'. |
| 07:05.50 | nymbia | Guillotine: pong |
| 07:06.07 | Guillotine | nybmia: is Tattle supposed to be ready for use? |
| 07:06.27 | nymbia | probably as ready as it'll ever be |
| 07:06.50 | Guillotine | dataminer.lua doesn't seem to be writing any data for US Cyclone |
| 07:07.24 | Guillotine | it creates the directory, but no data is written in it other than the basic last scanned info |
| 07:07.46 | nymbia | hrm |
| 07:08.42 | Guillotine | btw, running it with the official lua5.1 binaries |
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| 07:38.32 | Thunder_Child | so who can "name that cloak" http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1225/527425637_fb93e9c644_b.jpg |
| 07:40.47 | Mr_Rabies2 | wtf |
| 07:40.58 | Mr_Rabies2 | a chimaera followed me from the middle of SMV to skettis |
| 07:41.10 | Mr_Rabies2 | he aggro'd me in the air while i was flying and i dropped combat |
| 07:41.11 | Thunder_Child | awwww....someone like you |
| 07:41.18 | Mr_Rabies2 | then i'm fighting in skettis |
| 07:41.22 | Mr_Rabies2 | and all of a sudden he shows up |
| 07:41.29 | Mr_Rabies2 | like...5 minutes later |
| 07:42.22 | Mr_Rabies2 | Cloak of the Ancient Spirits, tc? |
| 07:42.50 | Thunder_Child | i have no idea |
| 07:43.33 | Thunder_Child | is that what it is, or are you guessing? |
| 07:43.38 | Mr_Rabies2 | i'm pretty sure it is |
| 07:43.48 | Mr_Rabies2 | thats the only cloak trader narasu sells :P |
| 07:43.50 | Thunder_Child | ya, your correct |
| 07:44.02 | Thunder_Child | should i post it? |
| 07:44.03 | Mr_Rabies2 | i'm gonna kite a ton of chimeras to shattrath |
| 07:45.20 | Shadowed | So, any way to detect the difference between a user editing an inputbox or clicking a checkbox VS SetChecked/SetText for the OnTextchanged and OnClick events |
| 07:47.52 | Fin | Thunder_Child: is that screenshot your UI? |
| 07:50.23 | Thunder_Child | yes |
| 07:50.57 | Fin | what bag mod are you using, please? |
| 07:51.07 | Fin | is it ArkInventory? |
| 07:51.32 | Thunder_Child | Baggins |
| 07:51.54 | Fin | thanks |
| 07:51.59 | Thunder_Child | welcome |
| 07:57.57 | Corrodias | sometimes WoW takes a ridiculously long time to start... |
| 07:59.51 | Fin | are you running with lots of Ace2 addons? |
| 08:00.54 | Fin | s/addons/addons and not using !!!StandaloneLibraries/ |
| 08:03.30 | Corrodias | i don't mean enter the game, i mean to load at all |
| 08:03.47 | subbawt | that happens to me sometimes too |
| 08:03.56 | subbawt | it usually happens after I crash |
| 08:04.00 | subbawt | I think it's some sort of hardware problem |
| 08:04.19 | Corrodias | WoW interacts with the hardware in strange ways |
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| 08:24.11 | Mr_Rabies2 | how do i use standalonelibraries? just install it like any other addon and hope everything works? |
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| 08:39.27 | Tem | any druids around? |
| 08:46.18 | Corrodias | i |
| 08:46.37 | Tem | what's the low down on cyclone |
| 08:46.44 | Corrodias | i don't understand |
| 08:46.58 | Shadowed | Basically |
| 08:46.59 | Tem | does it not have diminishing returns? |
| 08:47.02 | Shadowed | it's overpowered, can't be dispelled |
| 08:47.03 | nevcairiel | it does |
| 08:47.03 | Shadowed | it does |
| 08:47.08 | Tem | I get cycloned over and over and over |
| 08:47.11 | Shadowed | but you can keep it up for around 7-9s seconds |
| 08:47.12 | Corrodias | in both pve and pvp, it does |
| 08:47.21 | nevcairiel | first 6s, seond 3s, third 1s, fourth immune |
| 08:47.24 | Corrodias | you can keep it going for a total of 10 if i'm not mistaken. 6, 3, 1 |
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| 08:49.00 | Corrodias | it makes the target immune to all damage and effects |
| 08:49.24 | Corrodias | much like a banish |
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| 08:57.59 | Mr_Rabies2 | and it's pretty much impossible to keep it up for a full 10 |
| 08:58.29 | Mr_Rabies2 | you have to time it perfectly or it'll just say immune and you have a GCD plus 1.5 sec cast |
| 08:58.34 | krka | O_O |
| 08:58.46 | krka | i just read this part: and it's pretty much impossible to keep it up for a full 10 |
| 08:59.03 | Mr_Rabies2 | can't say i blame you |
| 08:59.03 | krka | it's still too early in the morning |
| 08:59.11 | Mr_Rabies2 | i left that sentence wide open |
| 08:59.34 | Mr_Rabies2 | but yeah, cyclone is overrated |
| 09:00.38 | subbawt | it's most definitely not overrated |
| 09:00.47 | Mr_Rabies2 | the only players that would say otherwise have 1) never played a druid and are either 2) a priest or a paladin or 3) use a priest or a paladin as a crutch |
| 09:00.51 | Mike-N-Go | ~dict overrated |
| 09:00.57 | subbawt | especially in like 2v2 arenas |
| 09:01.09 | Mr_Rabies2 | when you have a druid babysitting a cyclone |
| 09:01.13 | Mr_Rabies2 | you make it 1v1 |
| 09:01.13 | Corrodias | for a feral druid, it sucks |
| 09:01.17 | Corrodias | for a balance druid, it's not so suck |
| 09:01.38 | Mr_Rabies2 | for any druid it's good but not insanely overpowered like everyone makes it out to be |
| 09:01.48 | nevcairiel | its only the pallys crying |
| 09:01.54 | nevcairiel | "omg wtf i cannot bubble QQ" |
| 09:01.55 | Mr_Rabies2 | the druid's ccing himself more or less to cc his target |
| 09:02.00 | Corrodias | they can cyclone one, toss a moonfire & nature's swarm on the other guy, and start casting cyclone again, continuing it if the first one can't use an instant spell to interrupt it |
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| 09:02.23 | Corrodias | that's about it |
| 09:02.32 | Mr_Rabies2 | which is pretty puny |
| 09:03.21 | Corrodias | and paladins can certainly bubble. they just have to wait for the first break and hammer on the bubble button |
| 09:03.27 | subbawt | it's really powerful when used well |
| 09:04.05 | nevcairiel | most paladins always bubble from the start when we encounter them more then once in an arena |
| 09:04.38 | Mr_Rabies2 | really powerful != overpowered |
| 09:04.40 | nevcairiel | or when initial cyclone resisted :D |
| 09:04.48 | Mr_Rabies2 | everyone acts like it's the end all be all cc |
| 09:05.04 | Corrodias | god no |
| 09:05.07 | Corrodias | sheep ftw |
| 09:05.09 | Mr_Rabies2 | when in reality it's not as useful as everyone makes it out to be |
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| 09:06.43 | subbawt | I've had cyclones weaved on me and my 2v2 partner to the point where we didn't even really get the chance to do anything |
| 09:07.04 | Mr_Rabies2 | who are you and your 2v2 partner? |
| 09:07.22 | subbawt | holy priest (me) + warlock |
| 09:08.00 | Mr_Rabies2 | i've had games where one warlock has locked one of us down for an entire fight WHILE being able to keep damaging via dots |
| 09:08.17 | Corrodias | indeed :o |
| 09:08.21 | Mr_Rabies2 | plenty of them too |
| 09:08.26 | Mr_Rabies2 | it's not even difficult |
| 09:08.30 | Corrodias | the diminishing returns are in effect for 15 seconds after the last cast |
| 09:08.53 | Corrodias | you had 15 seconds of cyclone-free time |
| 09:08.57 | Mr_Rabies2 | at least a 10 second cyclone forces the druid to be 1) useless and 2) the person being cycloned can't be damaged |
| 09:09.07 | Mr_Rabies2 | er |
| 09:09.08 | Mr_Rabies2 | wow |
| 09:09.12 | Mr_Rabies2 | i phrased that horribly |
| 09:09.22 | Mike-N-Go | What about putting a CC ability with setting an enemy your focus, and then have it target them, cast cc, then target your last mob, not to hard =O |
| 09:09.25 | Corrodias | not like a hunter trap. 12s which will break when someone lands an aimed shot or pyroblast on your ass |
| 09:09.32 | Corrodias | well, over 12s |
| 09:09.56 | Corrodias | don't bother to change targets. just /cast [target=focus] Cyclone |
| 09:10.03 | Mr_Rabies2 | mike, you have to start recasting cyclone 4.5 sec after the first one and time it pretty much perfectly |
| 09:10.22 | Mr_Rabies2 | which gives you 3 seconds to do ANYTHING |
| 09:10.27 | subbawt | what spec are you? |
| 09:10.29 | Mr_Rabies2 | so a 1.5 and a global cooldown max |
| 09:10.40 | Mr_Rabies2 | i'm feral, but that doesn't matter |
| 09:11.00 | Corrodias | i've spent time as balance/restoration, feral/restoration, and full feral |
| 09:11.18 | subbawt | well if you're a resto druid for example, and you cyclone their only DPS, you don't really have anything better to do :P |
| 09:11.19 | Corrodias | balance/restoration would be my choice for pvp |
| 09:12.19 | Mr_Rabies2 | so during the 3 seconds of the first cast you can cast moonfire, insect swarm, regrowth,rejuv one tick of lifebloom, or wrath on the other target |
| 09:13.07 | Corrodias | know what i'd do? cyclone, regrowth & rejuv partner, recast |
| 09:13.24 | Mr_Rabies2 | they'd be out of cylone for about a half second or so probably corr |
| 09:13.33 | Mr_Rabies2 | unless you happen to avoid all lag and time it perfectly |
| 09:13.42 | Mr_Rabies2 | and that half second is plenty of time for them to silence/counterspell you |
| 09:16.27 | Corrodias | i've entertained myself by using it on a paladin who wasn't smart enough to bubble |
| 09:16.32 | Corrodias | or who had used it already |
| 09:16.53 | subbawt | i didn't think you could bubble out of cyclone |
| 09:16.57 | subbawt | or do you mean bubble before it lands |
| 09:17.17 | Mr_Rabies2 | that's pretty easy too |
| 09:17.33 | Corrodias | yeah |
| 09:17.47 | Corrodias | you can cast instant spells during the maiden's consecration if you spam the button. same idea. |
| 09:18.11 | Mr_Rabies2 | there's plenty of counters to it, most people just don't bother trying them and would rather whine |
| 09:19.34 | Mr_Rabies2 | there's a reason none of the high end teams use druids |
| 09:19.39 | Corrodias | if you want something to whine about, try Sap |
| 09:20.24 | Mr_Rabies2 | how about howl of terror |
| 09:20.27 | subbawt | there's like no way to get out of cyclone once it lands, that's the way it differs from like every other form of crowd control |
| 09:20.41 | Mr_Rabies2 | that can be talented to instant and hits 5 targets, and is undispellable |
| 09:21.09 | Mr_Rabies2 | it's also impossible to damage the crowd controlled target, subbawt |
| 09:21.21 | Mr_Rabies2 | unlike any other CC |
| 09:21.21 | subbawt | and to heal him |
| 09:21.30 | subbawt | most CC breaks on damage in some way |
| 09:21.36 | Mr_Rabies2 | i bet cyclone would |
| 09:21.39 | Corrodias | fear doesn't |
| 09:21.39 | Mr_Rabies2 | if you could damage them |
| 09:21.47 | Mr_Rabies2 | fear can |
| 09:21.49 | subbawt | fear has a chance to, I believe |
| 09:21.50 | Mr_Rabies2 | but it rarely does |
| 09:22.00 | Mr_Rabies2 | here i'll trade you |
| 09:22.05 | Mr_Rabies2 | warlocks get cyclone |
| 09:22.13 | Mr_Rabies2 | we get death coil, howl of terror, and fear |
| 09:22.25 | Corrodias | yay! |
| 09:22.51 | subbawt | cyclone doesn't really have a class/race/composition it sucks against |
| 09:23.02 | subbawt | me and my 2v2 partner are both undead, so fear us all you want :P |
| 09:23.04 | Mr_Rabies2 | i'd still rather have fear |
| 09:23.28 | Mr_Rabies2 | oh no you broke one of my fears just let me wait for it to cool down and fearlock you |
| 09:23.38 | Mr_Rabies2 | er, you know, wotf to fade |
| 09:24.07 | subbawt | well i have will of the forsaken, pvp trinket, and a passive 15% resistance to fear |
| 09:24.35 | subbawt | and 70 shadow resist self buffed |
| 09:24.47 | Mr_Rabies2 | and yet i bet in a 3 minute fight fear would last longer than cyclone |
| 09:26.09 | subbawt | against _some_ compositions |
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| 09:26.43 | Mr_Rabies2 | i mean against a talented undead priest team with 70 SR and a pvp trinket |
| 09:28.15 | subbawt | i don't know, i'm obviously biased since i have so many counters for fear, but it's really a non-issue for me |
| 09:28.26 | Mr_Rabies2 | of course it would against a team that wasn't stacking every possible fear resist possible |
| 09:28.40 | subbawt | well i mean |
| 09:28.45 | subbawt | there's tons of counters for fear |
| 09:29.00 | subbawt | dwarf priests, undead anything, warriors, tremor totem |
| 09:29.04 | Mr_Rabies2 | because it's necessary to have them |
| 09:29.10 | Mr_Rabies2 | that's fear's only balancing factor |
| 09:29.20 | Mr_Rabies2 | without them, fear would be massively massively overpowered |
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| 09:31.22 | Mr_Rabies2 | cyclone doesn't need any counters like you're mentioning because it has enough other stuff balancing it |
| 09:32.46 | Mr_Rabies2 | its short duration, it requires the druid casting it to basically CC himself, you can't damage the target that's cycloned, counterspell it and you've locked down 90% of the druid's spellbook, steep diminishing returns |
| 09:33.19 | Mr_Rabies2 | if cyclone lasted as long as a fear and you could damage them through it, i'd see complaining about it |
| 09:34.01 | subbawt | i don't know if i would call it overpowered personally, but i just know it's what gives me and my partner the most trouble |
| 09:34.06 | subbawt | im no pvp god or anything |
| 09:34.36 | Mr_Rabies2 | have the lock use his felbastard to chomp that cyclone before it goes out |
| 09:34.42 | Mr_Rabies2 | or further cyclones |
| 09:34.46 | Mr_Rabies2 | if one goes out |
| 09:34.54 | subbawt | but the only things that really gives us trouble is mortal strike warriors and druids spamming cyclone |
| 09:36.03 | Mr_Rabies2 | my team has trouble with ms warriors, 3 minute mages, destro warlocks, shadow priests, double rogue teams |
| 09:36.28 | Mr_Rabies2 | affliction warlocks to an extent |
| 09:36.37 | Mr_Rabies2 | paladins |
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| 09:37.12 | subbawt | oh god ap/pyro mages |
| 09:37.22 | subbawt | we beat a team of 2 ap/pyro mages |
| 09:37.33 | Mr_Rabies2 | mage sheeps one of you and kills the other in 2 seconds |
| 09:37.50 | Mr_Rabies2 | we beat a double fire mage team |
| 09:37.53 | Mr_Rabies2 | that was pretty fun |
| 09:38.00 | subbawt | they both immeadiately opened with ap/pom/pyro on my partner |
| 09:38.03 | subbawt | and they didn't kill him |
| 09:38.09 | subbawt | and they instantly lost right there |
| 09:38.20 | subbawt | the match took a long time, but that's where they lost |
| 09:38.38 | subbawt | i got counterspelled 6 times, and sheeped about 4, and they couldn't burn either of us down |
| 09:38.58 | subbawt | seriously 6 times |
| 09:38.59 | Mr_Rabies2 | my 2v2 is me and a rogue |
| 09:39.15 | Mr_Rabies2 | feral druid and a rogue |
| 09:39.20 | Mr_Rabies2 | sap is our only livesaver |
| 09:39.41 | subbawt | my rogue friend can't get a sap off to save his life |
| 09:40.12 | Mr_Rabies2 | it's all about patience |
| 09:40.36 | Mr_Rabies2 | catch em when one of them splits off to run for the stealth buff |
| 09:41.03 | subbawt | i catch rogues trying to sap every once in a while |
| 09:41.05 | subbawt | with a surprise holy nova |
| 09:41.48 | Mr_Rabies2 | i should convince her to spec shadowstep |
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| 09:42.07 | Mr_Rabies2 | SS->sap would be insanity |
| 09:42.24 | Mr_Rabies2 | does sstep trigger a global cooldown? |
| 09:42.33 | subbawt | not sure |
| 09:43.08 | Mr_Rabies2 | if not you could even macro it |
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| 09:43.34 | Mr_Rabies2 | /cast shadowstep | /stopcasting | /cast Sap |
| 09:43.35 | Mr_Rabies2 | i wonder |
| 09:44.40 | Mr_Rabies2 | ugh |
| 09:44.41 | Mr_Rabies2 | every |
| 09:44.49 | Mr_Rabies2 | damn thread seems to have a keylogger link |
| 09:45.04 | subbawt | having a warlock partner is awesome |
| 09:45.04 | Mr_Rabies2 | i use firefox and noscript and i'm still scared :( |
| 09:45.37 | foxlit | You should be even more scaed for using FF :P |
| 09:45.47 | Mr_Rabies2 | why |
| 09:45.54 | subbawt | healthstones are amazing, and against two dps teams he just dots them all up while we sit there and watch them die |
| 09:46.00 | foxlit | Something about unsigned distribution of code :) |
| 09:46.12 | Corrodias | you'll have to elaborate |
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| 09:46.33 | Corrodias | that is, if you want us to understand. if you don't, then don't bother mentioning it. |
| 09:46.57 | Mr_Rabies2 | i'd say locks are probably some of the better arena healers :x |
| 09:47.07 | foxlit | It's not a very serious complaint. Firefox distributions aren', the last time I checked, cryptographically signed |
| 09:47.35 | foxlit | So if I sit somewhere between you and mozilla.org, I can modify your browser and you'll be none the wiser. |
| 09:47.41 | Corrodias | eek |
| 09:47.52 | Corrodias | now i have to kill you |
| 09:48.02 | Mr_Rabies2 | how would you sit somewhere between me and mozilla.org |
| 09:49.18 | foxlit | Depends on where you are. |
| 09:50.20 | foxlit | I wonder if they fixed it by now, though |
| 09:50.47 | Mr_Rabies2 | i have no clue how to check but i don't really consider that much of a vulnerability |
| 09:51.08 | Mr_Rabies2 | not compared to the stuff that IE lets you do :O |
| 09:51.16 | foxlit | What _does_ IE let you do? :) |
| 09:51.45 | Mr_Rabies2 | sure, ie7's a bit better |
| 09:51.59 | Mr_Rabies2 | but this is what IE lets you do: http://toadstool.se/journal/images/friends-dont-let-friends-use-ie.jpg |
| 09:52.12 | foxlit | Oh please, utterly staged? |
| 09:52.31 | foxlit | Someone actually went through and did that on purpose; I think I can do the same to FF |
| 09:53.17 | Mr_Rabies2 | i know the guy that did it, he was getting fired so he just ran every popup window that the average stupid user just clicks yes to anyway |
| 09:53.25 | Mr_Rabies2 | er clicked yes on all the activex controls |
| 09:54.20 | Mr_Rabies2 | hell there were exploits for a while that ran activex controls and stuff without requiring you to hit yes |
| 09:54.40 | Mr_Rabies2 | i just don't like my browser and my OS that closely integrated on today's internet |
| 09:55.09 | foxlit | By closely integrated you mean sandboxed, but okay. |
| 09:55.36 | Mr_Rabies2 | is ie7 sandboxed on xp? |
| 09:56.17 | foxlit | zomg, people aren't using vista?! :P |
| 09:56.27 | Mr_Rabies2 | a lot of people aren't |
| 09:56.48 | Mr_Rabies2 | as much as i hate the people who are all "HAY GUYS MIKKKRO$HAFT AMIRITE" |
| 09:56.58 | Mr_Rabies2 | ms has really dropped the ball on vista for now D: |
| 09:57.06 | foxlit | I know, I'm still on XP :) |
| 09:57.10 | Mr_Rabies2 | i'll wait on service pack 1 at least to reevaluate it |
| 09:58.33 | foxlit | If anything, IE7 is too paranoid :P |
| 09:58.52 | foxlit | Silly XML functionality being borked on local files until you click the infobar |
| 09:59.05 | Mr_Rabies2 | i don't even run with javascript on on pages unless i know i can trust em |
| 09:59.29 | foxlit | You're even more paranoid. |
| 10:00.21 | Mr_Rabies2 | blocks flash and java applets too |
| 10:00.38 | foxlit | What's the point? :) |
| 10:00.51 | Corrodias | saving resources |
| 10:00.55 | Mr_Rabies2 | no flash ads like ever |
| 10:01.05 | foxlit | no flash ads like never == hosts |
| 10:01.05 | Mr_Rabies2 | pages tend to load really fast |
| 10:01.12 | foxlit | They do anyway. |
| 10:01.29 | Mr_Rabies2 | plus it's pretty funny to see some huge corporate sites with stuff up like |
| 10:01.41 | Mr_Rabies2 | JAVASCRIPT PLACEHOLDER WEBPAGE GOES HERE |
| 10:02.00 | foxlit | Not a feature :) |
| 10:02.29 | Mr_Rabies2 | it's just an extra layer of security |
| 10:02.34 | subbawt | wow Mr_Rabies2 you are pretty paranoid |
| 10:02.53 | Mr_Rabies2 | the internet's a dangerous place D: |
| 10:02.53 | foxlit | An extra layer of snake oil, more like. |
| 10:02.53 | subbawt | I realize that, but I just don't care :P |
| 10:03.11 | Corrodias | hey |
| 10:03.18 | Mr_Rabies2 | i don't see how it's a bad thing |
| 10:03.20 | Corrodias | that snake oil cleared up my curse just like that |
| 10:03.25 | Corrodias | don't be hatin' |
| 10:03.26 | Mr_Rabies2 | i just click "allow x site" if i trust them |
| 10:03.40 | Mr_Rabies2 | and they're allowed forever or until i revoke said trust |
| 10:03.48 | subbawt | the most dangerous ones are the ones you do trust! |
| 10:03.53 | subbawt | with terribly coded websites |
| 10:04.00 | foxlit | "Would you like to install this ActiveX control?" // "Would you like to trust this site?" |
| 10:05.32 | Mr_Rabies2 | it's more like a "would you like to trust this site to run like regular firefox does, while disallowing any of its offsite flash ads to work unless you really want to see them?" |
| 10:05.34 | Mr_Rabies2 | kinda thing for me |
| 10:05.53 | Mr_Rabies2 | and if they're hosted onsite i just use adblock to block them |
| 10:05.57 | foxlit | Develops a culture of yesclicking anyway :P |
| 10:06.14 | Mr_Rabies2 | it doesn't popup a thing at every site i go to |
| 10:06.18 | Mr_Rabies2 | it's just off |
| 10:06.33 | Mr_Rabies2 | until i go to the statusbar and hit "allow permanently" or "allow for this session" |
| 10:06.36 | foxlit | And there are no ie "click yes" popups :) |
| 10:07.05 | Mr_Rabies2 | i've never been a yes clicker though |
| 10:07.19 | subbawt | do you read license agreements |
| 10:07.25 | Mr_Rabies2 | depends on what it is |
| 10:08.15 | Corrodias | i no longer read wow's revisions. i read the eula and tos once but don't want to reread them looking for changes. |
| 10:08.27 | Corrodias | when there are changes |
| 10:08.29 | Mr_Rabies2 | i'll scan over them if it's something i reasonably trust, yes click if it's something i know i can trust, i.e. a blizzard game, or whatever |
| 10:11.06 | Mr_Rabies2 | someone should really work on a diff thing for the tos and eula and stuff corr |
| 10:11.15 | foxlit | There's a date on top of them |
| 10:11.47 | Corrodias | yes, but then when i notice it's updated, i don't know how to figure out what has changed anyway |
| 10:12.17 | Mr_Rabies2 | yeah, the change could be instead of it saying "eskimos can't play unless they're eating blubber" |
| 10:12.53 | Mr_Rabies2 | it could just say "natives must be consuming traditional tribal foods to login to world of warcraft" |
| 10:16.27 | Corrodias | http://www.thinkin-lincoln.com/index.php?strip_id=148 |
| 10:16.36 | Mr_Rabies2 | i love thinkin lincoln |
| 10:25.08 | Mr_Rabies2 | http://www.thinkin-lincoln.com/index.php?strip_id=399 |
| 10:25.10 | Mr_Rabies2 | i love it |
| 10:25.27 | Mr_Rabies2 | because it mixes my two favorite things, history and absurdist humor :OL |
| 10:25.29 | Mr_Rabies2 | er :O |
| 10:26.17 | Corrodias | ugh... heroic sethekk halls at 2pm |
| 10:27.14 | Corrodias | guess i'd better get to sleep |
| 10:27.27 | Corrodias | have to wake up and get online.. |
| 10:27.37 | Corrodias | i want that mount, so i don't have a choice |
| 10:28.35 | Corrodias | although wowhead is getting more and more pessimistic about its drop rate. :/ allakhazam posted an initial tenative rate of 20% and wowhead has it down to 1.3% now |
| 10:29.05 | Corrodias | 1.3%! and you can only do the thing once per day |
| 10:30.00 | Mr_Rabies2 | why do you want to ride a dumb bird |
| 10:30.06 | Mr_Rabies2 | you can TURN INTO ONE |
| 10:30.14 | Mr_Rabies2 | hell the dumb bird can't even fly |
| 10:30.52 | Corrodias | because 1) it's a land mount, for azeroth, in which you cannot be a bird, and 2) i don't have anything better to do with my druid than collect mounts |
| 10:30.52 | Mr_Rabies2 | it's like an ostritch only more useless |
| 10:31.06 | Corrodias | he's at level 70, all quests complete (at least, until ogri'la came around in 2.1), no tanking gear outside of raids to obtain, raids 3 days a week |
| 10:31.11 | nevcairiel | i wonder if they ever change the flying form again, that you cannot pick herbs in it |
| 10:31.14 | Mr_Rabies2 | i'm not on azeroth long enough to care about what my mount looks like now :P |
| 10:31.19 | Corrodias | i am |
| 10:31.23 | Corrodias | so you're wrong |
| 10:31.24 | nevcairiel | i can hover over a herb, and herb it, without aggroing mobs which stand around |
| 10:31.24 | Corrodias | i win! |
| 10:31.28 | Mr_Rabies2 | they probably will nev |
| 10:31.37 | Mr_Rabies2 | i'm sure its not intended |
| 10:31.45 | Corrodias | but it's been that way since the original flight form |
| 10:31.49 | nevcairiel | the flying form even has a herbing animation! |
| 10:31.52 | Mr_Rabies2 | but damn you if you think i won't exploit that crap until it gets fixed |
| 10:31.58 | Mr_Rabies2 | you can't herb in regular flight form corr |
| 10:32.16 | Corrodias | what, seriously? i must be thinking of the halaa towers |
| 10:32.34 | Mr_Rabies2 | even those you couldn't pre 2.1 |
| 10:32.34 | Corrodias | roosts |
| 10:32.41 | Corrodias | yes, yes you could |
| 10:32.42 | Mr_Rabies2 | i dunno if you can now |
| 10:32.47 | Mr_Rabies2 | really? |
| 10:32.55 | nevcairiel | i dont think you could |
| 10:32.57 | nevcairiel | at least i couldnt |
| 10:32.58 | Corrodias | flight form could activate wyvern towers from the air |
| 10:33.06 | nevcairiel | ah |
| 10:33.11 | nevcairiel | thats possible |
| 10:33.56 | Mr_Rabies2 | i'm abusing the hell out of that until they fix it :P |
| 10:34.09 | Mr_Rabies2 | yes, i like being able to safely herb netherbush all day |
| 10:34.17 | Mr_Rabies2 | primal mana++ |
| 10:35.50 | Mr_Rabies2 | i think i have more primal mana than primal shadow now |
| 10:36.04 | Mr_Rabies2 | still 0 primal fire or earth though |
| 10:36.32 | Corrodias | i still spend a lot of time on my druid because i do so much tanking for guildmates' instance runs |
| 10:36.34 | nevcairiel | primal mana is pretty useless for me |
| 10:36.51 | Corrodias | i'm the only one who's on all the time and is easy to sucker into tanking for them |
| 10:36.52 | nevcairiel | i sell it or trade for other primals |
| 10:38.53 | Corrodias | i don't want to go to bed. waaaah. |
| 10:38.57 | Corrodias | i hate sleeping |
| 10:42.18 | Mr_Rabies2 | be nice if it wasn't required |
| 10:46.42 | Corrodias | yeah |
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| 10:56.01 | |Jelly| | Sleep. Pfft. |
| 10:59.03 | |Jelly| | So yeah...time for...you know... *looks around innocently* |
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| 11:47.12 | Nom- | woot cleared Karazhan in one day |
| 11:47.20 | Nom- | 6 hours, 10 mins |
| 11:50.22 | leethal | nightbane too? |
| 11:55.50 | Nom- | yep |
| 11:56.01 | leethal | but not those silly rare elite bosses? |
| 11:56.03 | leethal | they suck anyway =P |
| 12:07.33 | foxlit | Haha |
| 12:07.50 | foxlit | We once pulled three packs of trashspiders there |
| 12:08.06 | foxlit | Was the most challenging encounter of the entire night; cleared the whole instance just before that |
| 12:12.05 | nevcairiel | How am i supposed to stop a button from being pushable when Disable() gets protected .. darn exploiters :/ |
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| 12:15.31 | nevcairiel | wonder if i can trick the stateheader into showing/hiding my button based on if it has a action.. |
| 12:42.34 | Peter | <PROTECTED> |
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| 14:13.16 | leethal | oh seriously nice |
| 14:13.21 | leethal | how damn seriously very nice |
| 14:13.22 | leethal | http://www.forumopolis.com/showthread.php?t=52465 |
| 14:14.20 | wobin | aye, it's getting to be pretty good |
| 14:16.38 | leethal | this gave me the faith back in ace |
| 14:16.47 | leethal | sorry cladhaire, no more dongle for me! =P |
| 14:17.08 | wobin | What's wrong with using both? =P |
| 14:17.08 | cladhaire | uhh. |
| 14:17.11 | cladhaire | am i supposed to care? |
| 14:17.23 | cladhaire | dongle is for developers, not for users. |
| 14:17.36 | wobin | cladhaire: Well, obviously, we're all subject to the whims of our users =P |
| 14:17.41 | cladhaire | not I |
| 14:17.44 | cladhaire | ask any of them =) |
| 14:17.45 | Industrial | not I |
| 14:17.53 | leethal | "cars are for roads, not drivers"? |
| 14:17.55 | cladhaire | what does an Ace threat meter have to do with Dongle? |
| 14:18.05 | leethal | uh nothing |
| 14:18.06 | cladhaire | would the correct statement be: "No more KTM"? |
| 14:18.13 | Industrial | leethal: more like engines are for mechanics, not drivers |
| 14:18.20 | cladhaire | then why inform me that you're no longer going to use dongle, ..... because there's an ace threat meter? |
| 14:18.21 | leethal | my point was that I've been very very shoo ace, go go dongle |
| 14:18.30 | cladhaire | that's gotta be one of the most silly things I've ever heard |
| 14:18.32 | cladhaire | well grats for you then |
| 14:18.35 | cladhaire | O.o |
| 14:18.35 | leethal | kek |
| 14:18.36 | wobin | It's true |
| 14:18.41 | wobin | why do either? |
| 14:18.51 | wobin | just use whatever works =P Be it Ace or Dongle =P |
| 14:18.55 | leethal | cladhaire: I'm sorry, I won't meddle in the affair of book writers no more |
| 14:18.56 | cladhaire | how about you just use the addons that work for you |
| 14:19.00 | wobin | Why all the h8n? |
| 14:19.02 | leethal | you obviously > me |
| 14:19.15 | leethal | was just saying |
| 14:19.39 | Industrial | wobin: cause im not running any ace addon, and yesterday i tried pitbull (again?) and i had to load 5MB of libraries for it |
| 14:19.40 | leethal | bah that was pointless, sorry |
| 14:19.46 | cladhaire | its okay *shrug* |
| 14:20.16 | wobin | Industrial: ... And? |
| 14:20.25 | wobin | That drives you to hate? |
| 14:20.36 | Industrial | wobin: dislike |
| 14:20.38 | wobin | pshaw. Go outside and play in the sun |
| 14:20.49 | wobin | Learn to be more open minded. |
| 14:21.17 | cladhaire | i use ace addons zomg |
| 14:21.17 | cladhaire | and some of them are written HORRIBLY |
| 14:21.21 | cladhaire | but i use them, cause they do what I need |
| 14:21.21 | cladhaire | *shrug* |
| 14:21.26 | wobin | If the basic framework of an addon will drive you to hate, then you need to step back and stop playing for a while til everything comes back to perspective =P |
| 14:21.26 | cladhaire | Addons aren't a religion. |
| 14:21.35 | zenzelezz | heathen |
| 14:21.51 | Industrial | wobin: its the needing a library ot make blueberry waffles that drives me to stop using it |
| 14:21.55 | Industrial | *10 |
| 14:22.05 | wobin | Cause saying you're a Donglearian just makes people look at you funny =P |
| 14:22.20 | Industrial | I use zAddons, mainly |
| 14:22.23 | Industrial | *cough* |
| 14:22.29 | wobin | Industrial: So. Which library makes the waffles? |
| 14:22.41 | Nickenyfiken | WaffleLib? |
| 14:22.49 | wobin | Or more to the point. Which library -isn't- used by that addon? |
| 14:23.14 | cladhaire | wobin: I don't think we'll ever understand *shruG* |
| 14:23.14 | wobin | You can't make broad waffle making statements without backing it up. |
| 14:23.23 | wobin | With at least some maple syrup |
| 14:24.01 | wobin | (Damnit. I wish that waffle place downstairs hadn't closed down. I have horrible waffle cravings now =() |
| 14:24.08 | Industrial | ha |
| 14:24.11 | wobin | Damn you Indy, Damn you =( |
| 14:24.39 | Industrial | *pinky to mouth, evil laugh* |
| 14:25.20 | Industrial | anyway this behaviour of "zomg i have a guild list better make a guild member managing library for it" has gone out of hand |
| 14:25.45 | Industrial | people are _advocating_ to have a separate addon containing all libraries just to make sure you load them all? |
| 14:25.56 | Industrial | because it will load faster? |
| 14:26.28 | Fin | aw, this is so tired |
| 14:26.47 | Industrial | if it loads slow zomgmake it faster or reconsider using it |
| 14:28.02 | Fin | you know what's good? |
| 14:28.04 | Fin | cheese |
| 14:28.06 | Fin | cheese is fucking great |
| 14:28.43 | Industrial | too bad nobody ever listens to me :( |
| 14:29.02 | Fin | cheese toasties, pizzas, cheese and onion sandwiches, grated cheese on jacket potatoes, cheese and wine |
| 14:29.06 | Fin | where would the world be without cheese |
| 14:29.09 | wobin | Cheese on toast is great |
| 14:29.15 | wobin | with a bit of cinnamon sugar on top |
| 14:29.16 | Fin | Industrial: listening and replying are two different things |
| 14:29.31 | Fin | cinnamon? huh, seems a bit weird, but I've never tried it |
| 14:29.56 | wobin | yeah =) The sweetness and spice of the cinnamon sugar actually goes pretty well with the tartness of the cheese |
| 14:30.13 | wobin | It's like how you have quince jam with cheese on crackers |
| 14:30.15 | Fin | I used to like cheese and jam sandwiches... not sure I'd like them now, haven't had them since I was a kid |
| 14:30.19 | Industrial | ive never heard anyone saying im wrong |
| 14:30.26 | Industrial | or how im dumb (cept tek) |
| 14:30.35 | wobin | Well, no, indy, you're entitled to your opinion |
| 14:30.42 | Fin | and of course how could I forget: baked beans with cheese on top |
| 14:30.51 | wobin | oo, that's something I haven't tried |
| 14:30.58 | Fin | lordy lordy |
| 14:31.06 | wobin | Is the cheese melted? |
| 14:31.20 | wobin | I like chicken mornay |
| 14:31.25 | wobin | with cheese and paprika on top |
| 14:31.31 | wobin | and grilled to a crusty finish |
| 14:31.40 | Fin | it's a classic London lunch snack - jacket potatoes filled with melted butter, baked beans, and lots of melted cheese |
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| 14:31.47 | Fin | what's chicken mornay? |
| 14:31.50 | wobin | mmm Hello carbs =) |
| 14:31.57 | wobin | (And FAT) |
| 14:32.24 | Fin | (tee hee :) |
| 14:32.53 | Fin | I bought some gorgonzola yesterday |
| 14:32.55 | Fin | it's really expensive here |
| 14:32.58 | Fin | but it was worth it |
| 14:33.46 | Fin | s/cheese/cheeses/ |
| 14:34.14 | Fin | I think... |
| 14:34.33 | Fin | if I didn't like computers, I'd either like to own a second hand book shop, or a cheese shop as a career |
| 14:35.11 | Fin | always wanted to own a second hand bookshop as a kid |
| 14:36.34 | wobin | yeah |
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| 14:41.34 | kahdgarxi | Morning. |
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| 15:14.23 | kahdgarxi | Does anyone know of an addon that I can use to simulate a raid environment? (I'm trying to get grid set up) |
| 15:16.25 | leethal | don't think so |
| 15:16.42 | leethal | simulation mode should've been mandatory for all unit frame addons that handles raids =P |
| 15:17.01 | kahdgarxi | no kiddin >_, |
| 15:17.05 | kahdgarxi | guess i'll just joina BG xD |
| 15:25.36 | wobin | At least Pitbull does that |
| 15:25.48 | wobin | although on my laptop, having 40 frames causes a bit of lag =P |
| 15:26.03 | wobin | s/frames/unitframes/ |
| 15:29.06 | leethal | did they buff the weapon skill leveling rate? |
| 15:30.21 | wobin | <3 being a hunter and being able to level two handed weapons at 1sec a level |
| 15:30.30 | wobin | at least initially =P |
| 15:32.08 | leethal | this goes pretty fast |
| 15:32.14 | leethal | had 330 axe skill |
| 15:32.17 | leethal | entered SM |
| 15:32.22 | leethal | did armory and cath, and now 350 |
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| 15:47.55 | Kirkburn|afk | http://www.explosm.net/comics/648/ :D |
| 15:48.54 | Kirkburn|afk | leethal, at 70? You did an entire instance and got 20 points ... that's fast? |
| 15:51.41 | leethal | Kirkburn|afk: well, I remember using two AQ20 to level 299-300 back in the pre TBC days |
| 15:52.28 | kaiden | Kirkburn|afk, notice how people are releasing font packs with for pay fonts in them lol ;) |
| 15:52.35 | leethal | those last points remembered to be very slow |
| 15:52.44 | kaiden | the ClearFont_FontPack has Enviro in it which is like 39 bucks :P |
| 16:15.00 | wobin | http://www.explosm.net/comics/606/ |
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| 16:36.44 | Thunder_Child | you have a fake ZzZ? |
| 16:37.52 | Thunder_Child | nvm, missed the ly |
| 16:38.10 | Shirik | they weren't believing |
| 16:38.31 | Shirik | 01:03:57 » Shirik is now known as Shirik|zZz |
| 16:38.31 | Shirik | 01:04:03 ‹zenzelezz› bon nuit |
| 16:38.31 | Shirik | 01:04:03 ‹cogwheel› yeah right |
| 16:38.31 | Shirik | 01:04:09 ‹Shirik|zZz› :( |
| 16:38.44 | Shirik | 01:04:18 ‹cogwheel› you'll be up for another hour |
| 16:42.33 | Thunder_Child | heh |
| 16:43.03 | Thunder_Child | it's easier for me, no one ever wants me so i dont have to change anything |
| 16:44.18 | Shirik | :( |
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| 16:47.24 | cogwheel | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=108302184 |
| 16:48.26 | Shirik | ROFL |
| 16:48.29 | Shirik | did you seriously just get that?! |
| 16:48.46 | nevcairiel | lol |
| 16:48.47 | cogwheel | yep |
| 16:48.54 | Shirik | wow... |
| 16:49.02 | Shirik | I kinda wish that happened to me :( |
| 16:49.09 | Shirik | only kinda |
| 16:49.43 | nevcairiel | i dont |
| 16:50.02 | nevcairiel | i am quite happy that i generally dont get bothered for BT3 support ingame |
| 16:50.26 | Shirik | the only questions about RDX in-game I get is from my guild :( |
| 16:50.39 | Shirik | hell there are people in guild that when I start talkinga bout it, they're like "wait, YOU'RE the author?" |
| 16:50.42 | Shirik | then I want to slap them |
| 16:50.51 | nevcairiel | hahaha |
| 16:51.14 | amro | lol Shirik |
| 16:52.15 | Kaydeethree | oh gah |
| 16:52.18 | Kaydeethree | that's insanity |
| 16:52.35 | Kaydeethree | someone actually rolled on medivh to bug me about theorycraft once |
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| 17:12.52 | cogwheel | O.o |
| 17:13.07 | cogwheel | So, I created a toon on that guy's realm to do a /who of his guild... |
| 17:13.16 | cogwheel | Here's a sampling of the character names in that guild... |
| 17:13.32 | cogwheel | spankdatazz |
| 17:13.44 | cogwheel | nailbomb |
| 17:13.54 | cogwheel | legolamb |
| 17:14.01 | cogwheel | froggygirl |
| 17:14.12 | Shirik | lol |
| 17:14.13 | cogwheel | I get the feeling speaking to one of the officers about them won't help my cause... |
| 17:14.19 | Shirik | probably not |
| 17:15.33 | Thunder_Child | emo emu? *sigh* |
| 17:18.02 | Shirik | :( |
| 17:18.07 | Shirik | it's cidan's hostname not mine!! |
| 17:18.35 | Thunder_Child | uh huh..... |
| 17:18.40 | Thunder_Child | :) |
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| 17:32.57 | |Jelly| | Why is it that if you wake up at noon-thirty, you've slept "all day" even though you went to bed like five hours ago? |
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| 17:33.42 | Shirik | fact of life; don't question it |
| 17:34.07 | |Jelly| | I just think it's funny that I sleep less than the people that are telling me that. : / |
| 17:34.34 | Atriace | Is there a way to get the value of a CVar? |
| 17:34.38 | Shirik | GetCVar() |
| 17:34.42 | |Jelly| | grr |
| 17:34.50 | |Jelly| | I actually knew that one, Shirik! |
| 17:34.58 | |Jelly| | *needs to get on the ball* |
| 17:34.59 | Shirik | You must be faster, young padawan |
| 17:35.31 | Atriace | lol |
| 17:36.19 | Atriace | So: myVar=GetCVar(anisotropic) would make myVar equal to the value of anisotropic (ie., 1) |
| 17:36.27 | Shirik | "anisotropic" |
| 17:36.37 | Shirik | in quotes |
| 17:36.40 | Atriace | right |
| 17:37.25 | cogwheel | <Shirik>You must be faster, young padawan Just be glad this channel doesn't have my full attention :P |
| 17:37.30 | Atriace | I get goosebumps everytime I come here. |
| 17:37.35 | Shirik | ya ok cogwheel |
| 17:37.39 | Shirik | I show a 4s response time there |
| 17:37.42 | Shirik | you think you can beat that? |
| 17:37.46 | Shirik | ^^ |
| 17:37.59 | cogwheel | not right now I can't :P |
| 17:38.04 | Shirik | ah |
| 17:38.07 | |Jelly| | *plays duel music* Shirik v. Cogwheel; HIGH NOON! (38 minutes ago here...) |
| 17:38.08 | Shirik | responding to too many of those in-game mails? |
| 17:38.34 | |Jelly| | He's too busy trying to get around the spam filters for his gold business on the side! |
| 17:39.06 | cogwheel | my wife is my only employee |
| 17:39.29 | cogwheel | She made >750g before she hit 40 on a brand new (to her) realm... |
| 17:39.33 | |Jelly| | ouch -- poor girl. Chained to a desk 23.5hours a day forced to play wow, eh? |
| 17:39.50 | |Jelly| | hax |
| 17:40.06 | Atriace | What does she do in the .5 hours? |
| 17:40.17 | Thunder_Child | cook/clean |
| 17:40.17 | cogwheel | bathroom |
| 17:40.39 | Shirik | well |
| 17:40.41 | Shirik | if she were with me |
| 17:40.50 | Shirik | chained to a desk... during those .5 hours... |
| 17:40.53 | cogwheel | One of those statements I just made was true... |
| 17:40.56 | |Jelly| | haha |
| 17:41.02 | Atriace | I thought slaves cost more than a wedding ring. |
| 17:41.18 | |Jelly| | Cogwheel: bathroom <-I found it! |
| 17:42.25 | |Jelly| | Is Kaydeethree alive in here? |
| 17:42.35 | Shirik | nah I killed him weeks ago |
| 17:42.42 | |Jelly| | Oh man. |
| 17:43.07 | Atriace | Alright, I just forgot the name of the function for throwing up a windowed message. |
| 17:43.19 | Atriace | Starts the timer.... ;) |
| 17:43.25 | |Jelly| | Well. I suppose you could say that I need a new side project. Someone recommended Ubuntu; do you guys recommend another Linux distro? |
| 17:43.32 | Shirik | ubuntu is god |
| 17:43.47 | |Jelly| | Alright then...I'll take your word for it. |
| 17:43.59 | |Jelly| | UNLESS someone wants to duel Shirik??? |
| 17:44.20 | Shirik | ok, I'm going crazy here..... |
| 17:44.30 | Thunder_Child | 'nix for what? |
| 17:44.31 | Shirik | Interface\AddOns\RDXM_Logistics\RDXM_Logistics.lua:885: attempt to call method 'Destroy' (a nil value) |
| 17:44.34 | Shirik | it is not a nil value!! |
| 17:44.48 | |Jelly| | "Destroy" <- I like that. rofl |
| 17:45.02 | Shirik | all of my frames have it :) |
| 17:49.40 | Kaso | i didnt know lua gave a different error from calling table.nil() and table:nil() |
| 17:49.45 | Kaso | learn something new every day |
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| 17:51.33 | Shirik | cladhaire is not having a good day today methinks |
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| 17:56.39 | zenzelezz | I find it amusing that you can use your hearthstone while sitting |
| 17:58.43 | |Jelly| | ...but can't make bandages or...anything else really |
| 17:59.07 | Arrowmaster | i wonder if i can click my ruby slippers together while sitting |
| 17:59.55 | Arrowmaster | i can! |
| 18:00.10 | zenzelezz | woot, this guild lasted all of... under one week |
| 18:00.40 | |Jelly| | lol |
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| 18:03.15 | zenzelezz | "we'll get it going in no time" "people are giving up, seeya" |
| 18:03.46 | itson | so .. say i kill a mob, and i go up to its body and right click it to loot, the loot window comes up, and there is one item there. when i put my mouse over that item a tool tip comes up, |
| 18:03.50 | Kaso | itson what you do mean by mouse over the "item" the item link? the item in your bag? the items tooltip? |
| 18:03.51 | amro | zenzelezz: that's the spirit |
| 18:03.51 | itson | i want to work with that information, |
| 18:03.58 | Kaso | ok |
| 18:04.36 | itson | u have an idea of what im trying to do? or should i explain more? |
| 18:04.46 | Kaso | nope i gotcha |
| 18:05.02 | itson | im thinking something like /get.tooltip.name or something like that |
| 18:05.08 | |Jelly| | You're trying to hack the Gibson. We're on to you. |
| 18:05.15 | itson | lol |
| 18:05.38 | |Jelly| | You get points if you know WTF. lol |
| 18:05.54 | Kaso | you need to use the GameTooltip OnTooltipSetItem script handler |
| 18:06.09 | Kaso | that will allow you to have some code executes each time an item goes onto the gametooltip |
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| 18:06.11 | itson | who are you guys anyway? u guys work for wow or just people who understand wow development? |
| 18:06.15 | Kaso | second. |
| 18:06.26 | |Jelly| | I'm a troll, mainly. |
| 18:06.49 | Kaso | then from there you can use GameTooltip:GetItem() to get the item's name |
| 18:07.15 | itson | hum.. |
| 18:07.43 | itson | where are these things listed? i searched for OnTooltipSetItem in the API section but i didnt find it there.. |
| 18:07.57 | itson | in the wowwiki api section |
| 18:08.01 | itson | ( where i searched ) |
| 18:08.43 | Kaso | Im not sure that infomation is up on the wiki to be honest |
| 18:08.56 | Kaso | http://www.wowwiki.com/Widget_Handlers |
| 18:08.57 | Kaso | there |
| 18:08.58 | itson | where would i find these commands ? |
| 18:09.14 | itson | AH |
| 18:09.15 | itson | NICE |
| 18:09.37 | Kaso | http://pastey.net/49766 |
| 18:09.49 | Kaso | thats an example of me using OnTooltipSetItem |
| 18:10.21 | itson | cool, let me read this for bit.. see if i understand it |
| 18:10.25 | itson | thx guys.. be back in bit. |
| 18:10.37 | Kaso | most of it prob doesnt mean much, but the tt:GetItem() and the oldFunc "hooking" style are useful |
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| 18:13.07 | Kaso | man that was an ugly way of doing that code, in a later revision i replaced most of it, then lost the code in a hard disk error |
| 18:13.08 | Kaso | annoying |
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| 18:19.03 | phyber | is there an option on WoWI to disable commenting on Addons? |
| 18:19.25 | Thrae_pam | Why, people bashing your addon? |
| 18:19.30 | phyber | I'm sick to fuck of retards commenting on stuff that they don't have a clue on. I'd rather disable comments for my addons to not read them |
| 18:19.42 | phyber | Thrae_pam: kind of. |
| 18:19.43 | Thrae_pam | You can just...not read your comments. |
| 18:19.50 | phyber | people with zero clue commenting on library issues. |
| 18:20.42 | phyber | Thrae_pam: the problem is that I don't want other people to read those comments and believe them. :/ |
| 18:21.08 | phyber | also, it saves wowi having to store that crap :p |
| 18:21.24 | Thrae_pam | Put a comment saying "I try to please you guys, but you keep bitching about library issues which are not under my discretion. Those coming here for the first time, please disregard such comments. If there are too many of these comments, I'll end up just ignoring comments altogether." |
| 18:21.55 | Shirik | ... |
| 18:22.07 | Shirik | so I've gotten in the habit of compiling my lua files to verify that it's ok before /console reloadui |
| 18:22.09 | Shirik | so I don't waste time |
| 18:22.09 | phyber | yay, nice wording. I'll probably steal that :) |
| 18:22.21 | itson | sorry to interrupt guys.. |
| 18:22.24 | Thrae_pam | Actually, now that I think about it, you should have the power to delete comments on your addon. |
| 18:22.25 | zenzelezz | I never know whether to think people that ask what the guild quit command is are serious or trying to get people to quit their guilds |
| 18:22.27 | Shirik | unfortunately, I haven't gotten a compile error in so long |
| 18:22.37 | Shirik | that I just ignored the 5 that came up and got confused when my addon didn't load -_- |
| 18:22.45 | zenzelezz | was quite common back in Anarchy Online to see someone shout "what's the suicide command?"... and someone always fell for it |
| 18:22.56 | itson | but how do i view something, ( like echo ) i want to use some /scripts to set variables and i want to view the variable.. how do i echo it to my self? |
| 18:23.00 | snurre | anarchy online *shivers* |
| 18:23.08 | Kaso | itson |
| 18:23.08 | zenzelezz | snurre: heh |
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| 18:23.11 | Kaso | ~devtools |
| 18:23.15 | purl | Iriel's DevTools, a highly useful set of debugging tools for developers on WoW. Found at http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/fileinfo.php?id=3999 Why isn't it in the default client yet? |
| 18:23.15 | Thrae_pam | phyber: Try just deleting the comments, and put a comment that all bugs should be put on your portal. |
| 18:23.24 | Kaso | itson download that the do "/dump variable" |
| 18:23.28 | zenzelezz | snurre: figured you were the same snurre, but didn't you use to be .no? |
| 18:23.40 | Kaso | (replacing variable with the name of the variable) |
| 18:23.40 | snurre | zenzelezz: i used to, until i moved to paris :p |
| 18:23.43 | itson | k |
| 18:23.50 | Thrae_pam | phyber: Then you can bash 'em back on your bug portal with "Not A Bug" |
| 18:24.13 | phyber | there is already a comment asking for bugs/features to go to the portal. |
| 18:24.22 | itson | thx mate |
| 18:24.26 | zenzelezz | snurre: I assume there was more behind the move than just a distaste for how FC treated you? :) |
| 18:24.40 | Thrae_pam | phyber: Yeah, but you should be able to delete comments...eventually they should get the message |
| 18:25.01 | phyber | I don't have a delete option for any comments. :( |
| 18:25.02 | snurre | zenzelezz: lol :p it wasn't related, no ;) |
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| 18:33.29 | Shirik | I have a new ugliest line record, I think: |
| 18:33.33 | Shirik | table.insert(w.list, {unit = sender, version={mver = mver, hver = hver, lver = lver}}); |
| 18:34.29 | Shirik | or maybe ok:SetScript("OnClick", function() RDXM.Logistics.ModuleCallback(nil, VFL_moduledb[select(2, dd:GetSelection())]); w:Destroy(); end); |
| 18:34.43 | zenzelezz | I have a pretty horrible variable name in my addon... in my hitpoint function I calculate the number of pixels per hit point, thus "pphp"... but then I made the same for my power function, pixels per power point... "pppp" |
| 18:34.51 | Shirik | lol |
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| 18:34.54 | Shirik | pppp |
| 18:35.01 | amro | >>> print("test") |
| 18:35.02 | side | amro: test |
| 18:35.10 | zenzelezz | it's local to the function though, so it doesn't get too confusing |
| 18:35.30 | amro | yay it works |
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| 18:35.48 | Shirik | >>> print("\nNOTICE #wowi-lounge hi all!") |
| 18:35.48 | side | Shirik: |
| 18:35.54 | Shirik | yeah you need to fix that |
| 18:35.55 | zenzelezz | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:36.08 | Shirik | I could make side quit IRC right now if I wanted to |
| 18:36.09 | Shirik | :P |
| 18:36.14 | cladhaire | heh |
| 18:36.27 | amro | and if you knew how to do it, you could control all my dcop enabled apps :P |
| 18:36.28 | zenzelezz | you shouldn't call is side though |
| 18:36.30 | amro | it's not complete |
| 18:36.33 | zenzelezz | rather "decide" |
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| 18:37.33 | Shirik | I didn't do that >< |
| 18:37.40 | amro | >>> print("\nNOTICE #wowi-lounge hi all!") |
| 18:37.40 | side | amro: |
| 18:37.43 | amro | fixed |
| 18:37.51 | Shirik | tbh would have preferred what Cide does |
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| 18:37.59 | Shirik | escape the characters |
| 18:38.27 | Shirik | just throwing that out there |
| 18:38.29 | Shirik | do what you want ^^ |
| 18:38.31 | amro | yeah this was about 2minutes' work |
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| 18:39.03 | amro | Shirik: if you want to write a python function that does that and pass it along, sure |
| 18:41.01 | Shirik | I suck at python |
| 18:41.01 | cladhaire | why Side? |
| 18:41.01 | Shirik | gah |
| 18:41.02 | Shirik | see what you did now! |
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| 18:41.40 | cladhaire | and why the same prefix as Cide's bot? |
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| 18:41.42 | amro | cladhaire: because cide's bot isn't around right now. I thought about changing the prefix though |
| 18:42.23 | cladhaire | figured as much |
| 18:42.23 | Shirik | >>> print("\rPRIVMSG Shirik rawr!") |
| 18:42.23 | side | Shirik: lua: stdin:1: unfinished string near '"' |
| 18:42.23 | amro | just a quick test though, the bot is actually a framework, and the lua think an ugly hack |
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| 18:44.00 | Shirik | tempted to >>> print(string.rep("o.", 100000)); |
| 18:44.06 | Shirik | but I don't want to spam the channel if that happens >< |
| 18:44.25 | Aella | It'll just cut off at 200 characters, no? |
| 18:44.41 | Shirik | side != cide |
| 18:44.52 | Aella | Aha. |
| 18:44.57 | itson | w00t i got exactly what i wanted |
| 18:45.05 | amro | side isn't even running anymore |
| 18:45.10 | itson | ./ /script io = GameTooltip:GetItem() then /dump io |
| 18:45.14 | itson | thanks you guys :) |
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| 18:45.53 | Aella | Just /dump GameTooltip:GetIteM() |
| 18:45.58 | Aella | *GetItem() |
| 18:46.31 | itson | cool |
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| 18:47.17 | Shirik | -_- |
| 18:47.17 | Kaso | Cide finally moved his bot to another username? |
| 18:48.21 | Shirik | l2stableserver! |
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| 18:48.24 | Shirik | and the nbs-irc changelog was wrong |
| 18:48.24 | Shirik | it said netsplits now occur all on one line |
| 18:48.24 | Shirik | it's full of crap |
| 18:48.24 | itson | ./dump GameTooltip:GetItem() doesnt work propelry |
| 18:48.24 | Kaso | What happens? |
| 18:48.24 | Shirik | then you didn't tpye it properly :P |
| 18:48.25 | itson | .//dump GameTooltip:GetItem() |
| 18:48.25 | itson | it gives me 2 lines |
| 18:48.32 | Kaso | yah |
| 18:48.32 | Kaso | cos GetItem has to returns |
| 18:48.32 | Shirik | that's becausei t has 2 return values |
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| 18:48.33 | itson | its not well formated |
| 18:48.33 | itson | yeah |
| 18:48.33 | Shirik | it's formatted fine.. |
| 18:49.30 | Aella | Try /dump (GameTooltip:GetItem()) if you only want one return, but if you're using dump to print something out, think again. |
| 18:51.28 | itson | now, prob gona spend all day trying to figure out how i can work with this information to what i need to do.. for now i have to go to work, |
| 18:51.38 | itson | u guys r tight, ima def hang out in here bother u guys bit more :) |
| 18:51.41 | itson | see u guys later |
| 18:52.42 | Kaso | tight! |
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| 19:19.03 | Shirik | foxlit: ping |
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| 19:59.32 | itson|afk | how do i use this function |
| 19:59.36 | Corrodias | like this |
| 19:59.37 | itson|afk | ./CloseLoot() |
| 19:59.43 | itson|afk | i want to close the loot window |
| 20:00.05 | Corrodias | what's the difficulty? |
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| 20:00.17 | Corrodias | /script CloseLoot() |
| 20:00.24 | itson | its not working |
| 20:00.33 | itson | oh yeah it is |
| 20:00.34 | itson | sorry |
| 20:00.44 | itson | thx |
| 20:01.12 | Kaso | i always use /run three less char to type! |
| 20:01.16 | Corrodias | great |
| 20:01.54 | Corrodias | life in wow is so simple without any crafting professions |
| 20:03.14 | Shirik|Ecole | no /script is better than /run obviously |
| 20:03.38 | Shirik|Ecole | actually, one of them should theoretically be better than the other, I wonder which one it is :P |
| 20:03.47 | Shirik|Ecole | one of them will require one less iteration of the SLASH_CMD_LIST table |
| 20:03.55 | Kaso | haha |
| 20:04.08 | Kaso | that extra 1/100th of a milisecond counts! |
| 20:04.12 | Shirik|Ecole | oh yeah |
| 20:04.13 | Shirik|Ecole | it does |
| 20:04.52 | Corrodias | it can, but in a slash command i doubt it will |
| 20:06.12 | Shirik|Ecole | actually I think I heard rumors of slash commands being cached in the near future |
| 20:06.40 | Kaso | they are currently cached but only addon slashes |
| 20:07.32 | Kaso | hash_SlashCmdList |
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| 20:08.03 | Kaso | oh wait |
| 20:08.38 | Kaso | Some blizzard slashes, but not most ^_- |
| 20:09.57 | Kaso | got it |
| 20:10.12 | Kaso | Normal slashes are in hash_SlashCmdList |
| 20:10.23 | Kaso | Chatting slashes are in hash_ChatTypeInfoList |
| 20:10.32 | Kaso | Emotes are in hash_EmoteTokenList |
| 20:10.50 | Kaso | Secure ones are in the local hash_SecureCmdList |
| 20:15.11 | Shirik|Ecole | fun |
| 20:19.55 | cladhaire | http://artificialtruth.com/2007/06/03/what-does-chutes-and-ladders-teach-your-kids/ |
| 20:21.41 | Shadowed | Basically, it teaches stereotypical roles that everything does? =p |
| 20:22.17 | Shirik|Ecole | heh |
| 20:22.20 | Shirik|Ecole | I played that game |
| 20:22.39 | Shirik|Ecole | I always hated that one at like 97 |
| 20:22.42 | Shirik|Ecole | which sent you back to 10 |
| 20:22.45 | Shirik|Ecole | that sucked |
| 20:22.46 | Shirik|Ecole | seriously |
| 20:23.13 | nevcairiel | lol |
| 20:23.54 | Shirik|Ecole | http://vip.cs.utsa.edu/classes/cs4773s2000/notes/chutesladders/chutesladders.gif |
| 20:23.56 | Shirik|Ecole | it's at 87 |
| 20:23.58 | Shirik|Ecole | and it takes you to 24 |
| 20:24.17 | Thunder_Child | ~moo |
| 20:24.25 | purl | mooooooooo! I am cow, hear me moo, I weigh twice as much as you. I am cow, eating grass, methane gas comes out my ass, or http://www.linuks.mine.nu/moo/ and http://www.riddleme.com/html/cow2.html |
| 20:24.59 | cladhaire | I just found that from when we did it in 2001 |
| 20:25.02 | cladhaire | was rather amused =) |
| 20:25.29 | Shirik|Ecole | oh wait |
| 20:25.30 | Shirik|Ecole | that's you!! |
| 20:25.32 | Shirik|Ecole | hah nice |
| 20:27.32 | Kaso | Chutes and Ladders? is that some crazy american name for snakes and ladders? |
| 20:27.48 | Shadowed | yea probably |
| 20:28.04 | Shirik|Ecole | wtf is snakes and ladders? |
| 20:28.12 | Shadowed | snakes = chutes |
| 20:28.15 | Shirik|Ecole | p.s. I showed you the game board |
| 20:28.18 | Shirik|Ecole | how is a snake a chute |
| 20:28.28 | Shirik|Ecole | do you have snakes in your playground? |
| 20:28.33 | cladhaire | Chutes and Ladders is a specific implementation of Snakes and Ladders |
| 20:28.35 | cladhaire | read wikipedia. |
| 20:28.38 | cladhaire | in fact, I'll link it |
| 20:29.03 | ScytheBlade1 | ~wiki Snakes and Ladders |
| 20:29.27 | ScytheBlade1 | l2bot |
| 20:29.27 | ScytheBlade1 | ;) |
| 20:29.33 | Kaso | Its victorian, so our name is right, ha! |
| 20:29.36 | Shirik|Ecole | ah I get it |
| 20:29.54 | Shirik|Ecole | The theme of the board design is playground equipment—children climb ladders to go down chutes (slides). The artwork on the board teaches a morality lesson, the squares on the bottom of the ladders show a child doing a good deed and at the top of the ladder there is an image of the child enjoying the reward. |
| 20:30.37 | Kaso | Kids dont like being taught stuff when they play games! |
| 20:31.26 | Shirik|Ecole | lol |
| 20:31.58 | Kaso | Square 80 is overpowered if you ask me |
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| 20:33.11 | Shirik|Ecole | it is |
| 20:33.31 | Shirik|Ecole | square 99 should take you to 1 imo |
| 20:33.40 | Kaso | the ultimate evil |
| 20:34.08 | cladhaire | hehe |
| 20:34.55 | Shirik|Ecole | if I designed it I would have done it |
| 20:34.59 | Shirik|Ecole | what's the spinner got, 1-6? |
| 20:35.17 | Shirik|Ecole | that means that 95-99 would all take you to 1 |
| 20:35.28 | Shirik|Ecole | so would 88-93 |
| 20:35.34 | Shirik|Ecole | 89* |
| 20:35.47 | Kaso | every square that is not a multiple of 6 takes you to 1 |
| 20:35.50 | Shirik|Ecole | yes. |
| 20:36.19 | Kaso | Also Spinner? you don't have die in America too? |
| 20:36.27 | Shirik|Ecole | it's an educational game! |
| 20:36.31 | Shirik|Ecole | you learn probability |
| 20:36.36 | Kaso | hu? |
| 20:36.38 | Shirik|Ecole | what is your chances of ever completing the game? |
| 20:36.47 | Shirik|Ecole | (1/6)^(100/6) |
| 20:36.53 | Kaso | haha |
| 20:37.10 | Shirik|Ecole | what is the average time taken to complete the game assuming that you do 1 turn a minute? |
| 20:37.42 | Shirik|Ecole | 1/((1/6)^(100/6)) * 60sec |
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| 20:38.43 | Shirik|Ecole | wow |
| 20:38.46 | Shirik|Ecole | 295k years |
| 20:38.52 | Shirik|Ecole | 295 millenia |
| 20:38.54 | Shirik|Ecole | rofl |
| 20:39.23 | Shirik|Ecole | btw that was supposed to be /60s not *60sw |
| 20:46.15 | itson | hey guys whats wrong with this line? /script if io == "blabla" then LootSlot(1) else CloseLoot(); end |
| 20:46.45 | itson | i think i need to use ( and )s somewhere maybe im not sure maybe ; before then or something like that |
| 20:47.50 | Kaso | You cant loot from script iirc. |
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| 20:49.31 | Kaso | nope guess i was wrong |
| 20:50.00 | Kaso | itson, what is "io" ? |
| 20:50.06 | itson | my var |
| 20:50.14 | Kaso | i got that |
| 20:50.17 | Kaso | what is it set to |
| 20:50.44 | itson | GameTooltip:GetItem() |
| 20:50.46 | itson | it gets the name |
| 20:50.53 | itson | if the name is what i want i just hit the macro |
| 20:50.59 | itson | less clicking and stuff |
| 20:51.13 | itson | i got it working i think it was a typo |
| 20:51.39 | Kaso | if you're making globals you should make their names less generic |
| 20:51.47 | Kaso | out of general practice |
| 20:51.54 | Kaso | also what's your ultimate aim |
| 20:52.35 | itson | nothing really , just learning things |
| 20:52.43 | Kaso | fair enough |
| 20:52.52 | itson | i wana get to a point where i can read other peoples addons and understand them |
| 20:53.31 | itson | caz man, i was using this UI it was soo good i loved it, and then BC came out and none of em worked and more then 1/2 arnt updated so i stopped playing caz i couldnt go back to stock UI |
| 20:53.50 | Kaso | there are other UIs out there |
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| 20:54.18 | Kaso | Im a big fan of people picking and choosing and making their own UIs rather than using packaged ones |
| 20:54.34 | itson | yeah, i spent like 4 hrs trying to find one that works .. even addons, more then 75% of em dont work with the new patch. 2.1* |
| 20:54.38 | Shirik | some people don't have the patience though :OP |
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| 20:55.22 | Kaso | itson, you do know that addons listed as "Out of Date" can mostly still work. |
| 20:55.54 | itson | yeah ,, i tried |
| 20:56.43 | itson | yeah, kaso, thats what i ended up doing, after i got tired of trying UIs i just started from top and said what do i need and found each one and configed it properly |
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| 21:33.49 | Kaydeethree | |jelly| pong |
| 21:33.53 | Kaydeethree | I use fedora core 7 |
| 21:34.07 | Kaydeethree | ubuntu's king for ease-of-use |
| 21:35.10 | Kaydeethree | s/core 7/7/ |
| 21:42.49 | Mr_Rabies2 | rofl |
| 21:43.02 | Mr_Rabies2 | my first attempt at a standalonelibs install is a failure |
| 21:45.09 | Mr_Rabies2 | 105 or so lua errors on login |
| 21:47.47 | Kaydeethree | oofh |
| 21:47.54 | Mr_Rabies2 | found the problem |
| 21:48.09 | Mr_Rabies2 | i disabled the ace2 lib before deleting it once in the past :p |
| 21:48.50 | Mr_Rabies2 | but uhh |
| 21:48.53 | Mr_Rabies2 | broke trinketmenu again |
| 21:49.04 | Mr_Rabies2 | i guess i can figure out what lib's causing it now |
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| 22:06.57 | josh____ | anyone here that can give me an opinion |
| 22:08.01 | josh____ | was wondering what the best spec to go with weaponsmithing is |
| 22:09.16 | Thunder_Child | whatever weapon you plan on using? |
| 22:11.26 | josh____ | well i switch back and forth |
| 22:11.48 | josh____ | like right now im using a mace |
| 22:11.59 | Thunder_Child | what class are you? |
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| 22:19.35 | Mr_Rabies2 | are there any other addons that do something similar to trinketmenu? |
| 22:20.15 | josh____ | i am a warrior |
| 22:20.19 | josh____ | arms spec |
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| 22:30.15 | zenzelezz | SL heroic was surprisingly easy |
| 22:30.45 | Kaso | i think its one of the easiest of the "hard" heroics |
| 22:31.42 | zenzelezz | the only place we had some trouble was one of the groups before Blackheart and on Murmur (the last one because the paladin insisted it was too hard to keep checking if he was the bomb while healing) |
| 22:31.59 | zenzelezz | but also, the casters were slow to run with the bomb :-| |
| 22:32.34 | Kaydeethree | of the 4 heroics for the TK attunement line, SL's #2 behind SH and just ahead of arc |
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| 22:35.21 | Shirik | right... |
| 22:35.33 | Shirik | forgetting to put coroutine.yield() in a loop which loops for 5 seconds |
| 22:35.34 | Shirik | sucks. |
| 22:35.42 | Shirik | for future reference |
| 22:36.04 | Shirik | quite literally, the loop keep looping until I haven't received an addon message from anyone for five seconds |
| 22:36.05 | Shirik | it was fun |
| 22:36.09 | Shirik | especially fun to debug |
| 22:36.46 | Kaso | whenever i do while() type loops pretty much every time i forget to increment the iterator, then kick myself when i have to Ctrl-C wow |
| 22:37.06 | Shirik | lol |
| 22:37.21 | Shirik | what's that table function that takes something like {1,2,3} and turns it into 1,2,3 |
| 22:37.27 | Shirik | table.explode? |
| 22:37.30 | Shirik | I'm confusing php again :( |
| 22:37.35 | Kaso | explode haha |
| 22:37.37 | Kaso | unpack() |
| 22:37.39 | Shirik | ah |
| 22:37.43 | Shirik | yeah php calls it explode :/ |
| 22:37.44 | Kaydeethree | ya, it's explode() in php |
| 22:37.48 | Kaso | (note not table. ) |
| 22:37.54 | Shirik | thanks :) |
| 22:40.20 | Kaso | the image of a table exploding is still amusing me |
| 22:40.59 | Kaso | {1,2,3} { 1 , 2 , 3 } { 1 , 2 , 3 } { !BOOM! } |
| 22:41.01 | zenzelezz | actually, PHP has both explode() and unpack() |
| 22:41.01 | Kaydeethree | mh, about as much as php die()ing |
| 22:41.15 | Shirik | yeah |
| 22:41.18 | Shirik | die() is fun too |
| 22:41.26 | Shirik | a lot of my functions are named after PHP conventions |
| 22:41.31 | Shirik | there's a VFL.print_r for example |
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| 22:42.01 | Shirik | Kaso, if it furthers your humor, there is an implode too |
| 22:42.08 | Kaso | haha |
| 22:42.13 | Kaso | yes it does very much! |
| 22:42.18 | Shirik | basically what these do |
| 22:42.21 | Kaso | } 3 , 2 , 1 { |
| 22:42.26 | Kaso | imploded! |
| 22:42.30 | Shirik | explode("1,2,3,4") creates an array {1,2,3,4} |
| 22:42.32 | Kaydeethree | damn it, black lotus, spawn in WS already |
| 22:42.44 | Kaso | Kaydeethree dont you use timers? |
| 22:42.47 | Shirik | implode({1,2,3,4}, ":") creates a string"1:2:3:4" |
| 22:42.48 | zenzelezz | what do you need BlackLotuses for anymore? |
| 22:42.54 | Kaydeethree | supreme power |
| 22:43.20 | Kaydeethree | nah, wasn't aware of such a mod. haven't been in the zone for 15m yet, though |
| 22:43.29 | Kaydeethree | on circuit #2, thuogh |
| 22:44.07 | Kaydeethree | lmao. yelling at the server on irc works, apparently |
| 22:44.14 | Shirik | ? |
| 22:44.16 | Shirik | nice |
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| 22:46.05 | Kaso | http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v87/lntkaos/lotuses.jpg |
| 22:46.14 | Kaso | thats me the other night when i was on my lotus farming spree |
| 22:46.23 | Kaso | got like 10 in 2hours and a bit. |
| 22:46.39 | Kaydeethree | damn |
| 22:46.47 | Kaso | knowing exactly when theyre gonna spawn helps loads |
| 22:46.57 | Kaydeethree | isn't the timer 15m now, though? |
| 22:47.10 | Kaso | sure? |
| 22:47.15 | Kaso | I didnt read anything about that |
| 22:47.21 | Kaso | though, dunno could be |
| 22:47.27 | Kaydeethree | that's what I've been hearing. I've gotten more than 1 per hour in WS before |
| 22:47.36 | Mr_Rabies2 | you have a lotus timer addon |
| 22:47.38 | Mr_Rabies2 | daaamn |
| 22:48.00 | Mr_Rabies2 | i got one from the ancient protector guys wandering around skettis |
| 22:48.01 | Kaso | Nah i just use Deadly boss mod's timer function to manually set a 60min timer when i pick one |
| 22:48.24 | Kaydeethree | I haven't tried soloing one of those guys yet. guildies have been getting a bunch of high-end herbs off of them, though |
| 22:48.36 | Mr_Rabies2 | what class, Kaydeethree? |
| 22:48.41 | Kaydeethree | I'm a mage |
| 22:48.48 | Mr_Rabies2 | shouldn't be difficult |
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| 22:48.59 | Mr_Rabies2 | i solo them in bear form |
| 22:49.20 | Mr_Rabies2 | they're stunnable, so i'd assume they're snare/rootable |
| 22:49.47 | Kaydeethree | I've assumed that before and made the run of shame |
| 22:50.14 | Kaso | You know i havent even gone near skettis since 2.1 |
| 22:50.16 | Kaydeethree | I just tend to operate on the assumption that no zone-elites can be slowed |
| 22:50.31 | Kaso | i refuse to partake in another retarded rep grind after i did silithus |
| 22:50.39 | Mr_Rabies2 | kaso, it's nothing compared to silithus |
| 22:50.47 | Mr_Rabies2 | unless you make it like silithus |
| 22:50.49 | Kaydeethree | 5 rep a mob instead of 1 |
| 22:51.02 | Mr_Rabies2 | i just do the fun quests on a daily basis and leave it to that |
| 22:51.22 | Mr_Rabies2 | i'm honored with skyguard after like....5 days of doing daily quests |
| 22:51.25 | Kaydeethree | how many dailies are there? I've only seen the bombing mission and the soloable escort quest |
| 22:51.37 | Mr_Rabies2 | quite a few, but i just do those 2 |
| 22:51.44 | Mr_Rabies2 | and then do the ones for them in blade's edge |
| 22:52.01 | josh____ | where at? |
| 22:52.07 | josh____ | i havent found those |
| 22:52.08 | Mr_Rabies2 | the bombing mission, the aether ray ropin |
| 22:52.09 | Kaydeethree | just north of ogri'la |
| 22:52.12 | Mr_Rabies2 | right above ogrila |
| 22:52.15 | josh____ | oh |
| 22:52.19 | Mr_Rabies2 | gotta do some ogrila quests to unlock them |
| 22:52.27 | Kaso | are the dailies at skettis annoying "bring me 40 of this 30% drop item" like netherwing? |
| 22:52.40 | Mr_Rabies2 | some of them |
| 22:52.45 | Mr_Rabies2 | but do the ones for gathering instead |
| 22:52.53 | Kaydeethree | meh, the only annoying nw quests are the goblin-given ones |
| 22:53.16 | Kaydeethree | I usually have 5 stacks of herbs and ~40 crystals on me at the end of the day's quests |
| 22:53.17 | Mr_Rabies2 | that's all i do for netherwing, the netherbush pollen quest |
| 22:53.24 | Mr_Rabies2 | and if i get an egg while getting netherbush, that's a plus |
| 22:53.49 | Mr_Rabies2 | plus i get tons of motes of mana in the process :P |
| 22:53.59 | Mr_Rabies2 | usually 2 primals in about 20 minutes without having to kill a single mob |
| 22:54.40 | Kaydeethree | kill the nether rays up there. decent droprate of both motes and crystals |
| 22:54.49 | Mr_Rabies2 | i dont bother :p |
| 22:55.07 | Mr_Rabies2 | i just do the quests i find fun |
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| 22:55.25 | Kaydeethree | booterang at friendly's my favorite quest out there |
| 22:55.28 | Mr_Rabies2 | yeah |
| 22:55.32 | Kaydeethree | the races at honored are fun, but I still haven't beaten skyshatter |
| 22:55.34 | Mr_Rabies2 | i wanna do that and the races |
| 22:55.36 | Kaydeethree | I blame my pos 5200fx |
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| 22:56.17 | Mr_Rabies2 | are the races daily |
| 22:56.23 | Kaydeethree | nope, once only |
| 22:56.25 | Mr_Rabies2 | aww |
| 22:56.35 | Kaydeethree | 350 for the first two, 500 for the next 3, 1000 for skyshatter |
| 22:56.42 | Kaydeethree | and a lot of gold |
| 22:57.09 | Mr_Rabies2 | be nice if they were daily, just no stacking rewards at the end :P |
| 22:57.54 | Kaydeethree | that's the good thing about nw, though. I've made ~1600g before spending ~500g buying the crap at friendly and honored to finish the quests as well as some enchants/gems |
| 22:59.34 | Mr_Rabies2 | you can make serious cash doing the daily quests |
| 22:59.52 | Kaydeethree | indeed. epic mount #3 coming up |
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| 23:00.04 | snurre | Mr_Rabies: 100g/hour easy |
| 23:00.07 | Mr_Rabies2 | i dont even want a netherdrake |
| 23:00.18 | Mr_Rabies2 | i just want the trinket |
| 23:00.25 | Mr_Rabies2 | the one with a bajillion stam |
| 23:00.35 | Mr_Rabies2 | stack that with my badge of tenacity that i'll never get |
| 23:00.44 | snurre | tricky quest to do without a riding crop or a paladin :/ |
| 23:00.49 | snurre | took me like 20 tries |
| 23:00.54 | Mr_Rabies2 | i have the flight form trinket |
| 23:01.01 | Kaydeethree | even with the riding crop |
| 23:01.01 | Mr_Rabies2 | epic flight form trinket, rather |
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| 23:06.51 | snurre | http://stage6.divx.com/user/snurre/video/1145271/arena2-3000kbps my latest vid |
| 23:06.58 | snurre | a few months old now tho |
| 23:07.15 | snurre | back when me and nafnaf were doing 2v2 arenas |
| 23:08.00 | Mr_Rabies2 | why can't divx use a flash based option |
| 23:08.01 | Mr_Rabies2 | >;[ |
| 23:08.08 | snurre | eek, wrong window! :p |
| 23:08.17 | snurre | *tired* |
| 23:08.22 | Kaso | Cos flash doesnt support their codec Mr_Rabies2 ? |
| 23:08.48 | snurre | stage6 > all for streaming tho :p |
| 23:08.56 | Kaso | i agree with that |
| 23:09.22 | snurre | streamed some 720p movies at work :p |
| 23:09.29 | Kaso | Their bandwidth is stupidly high, the quality is stupidly good |
| 23:10.33 | Kaso | Yah, my uni connection is similar, download rates in thousands of kbs, its scary! |
| 23:11.19 | snurre | had 100mbit when i lived in oslo.. *that* was sweet |
| 23:14.40 | Mr_Rabies2 | i'm on 3 mbit |
| 23:14.41 | Mr_Rabies2 | :( |
| 23:14.48 | Mr_Rabies2 | and that's reasonably fast over here |
| 23:18.34 | Mr_Rabies2 | i want to upgrade to 6 mbit but i think speed upgrades are currently on hold for my isp until they properly merge |
| 23:19.19 | Mr_Rabies2 | and the divx plugin crashes firefox for the 2nd timie |
| 23:19.19 | Mr_Rabies2 | awesome |
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| 23:19.56 | Kaso | Are you using windows Mr_Rabies ? |
| 23:20.02 | Mr_Rabies2 | yes |
| 23:20.32 | Kaso | hmm, wierd, ive never had any problems. |
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| 23:20.47 | Mr_Rabies2 | it crashed twice in a row on his video |
| 23:20.57 | Kaso | On linux on the other hand, trying to find an mplayer package that works with divx has been a pain |
| 23:21.25 | Mr_Rabies2 | i use the cccp codec pack or something |
| 23:21.29 | Mr_Rabies2 | some communist thing |
| 23:22.03 | zenzelezz | I've not been very fond of DivX for a while now |
| 23:22.15 | Kaydeethree | meh |
| 23:22.20 | Mr_Rabies2 | for web stuff, i prefer youtube |
| 23:22.28 | Mr_Rabies2 | speed > quality if i just want to watch it |
| 23:23.22 | Mr_Rabies2 | http://cccp-project.net/ is the codec pack i use |
| 23:23.31 | Kaso | Kaydeethree all the mplayer packages i found for ubuntu were a version which had no mplayer support, i had to compile it myself at the end, which gave me a headache |
| 23:24.13 | Mr_Rabies2 | vlc imo |
| 23:24.20 | Shadowed | can't stand VLC |
| 23:24.36 | Shadowed | people need to learn2ui |
| 23:24.52 | Mr_Rabies2 | my only gripe with vlc is its lack of full screen options |
| 23:25.07 | Mr_Rabies2 | which is being implemented soon |
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| 23:36.24 | kergoth | snurre, what addon is it thats modifying the arena status screen at the end of your arena2 video there? skinner? |
| 23:38.59 | snurre | think so yeah |
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| 23:45.41 | Mr_Rabies2 | ugh |
| 23:46.02 | Mr_Rabies2 | these rampant keyloggers on the forums are pissing me off |
| 23:46.22 | Mr_Rabies2 | i feel like by silencing the farmers ingame, we've essentially just lopped off a hydra's head |
| 23:46.28 | Mr_Rabies2 | er, gold spammers |
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| 23:47.59 | Mr_Rabies2 | oh jeez |
| 23:48.47 | Kaydeethree | I agree wholeheartedly, have gotten a grand total of 2 gold spams since the patch |
| 23:49.05 | Mr_Rabies2 | [2. Trade] [Kelyninnan] LF ENCHANTER TO DO =15 AGILITY ON WEAPS PLZ FREE AND I WILL EB RECONNAISSANT TO THE ONE WHO WIL DO THIS AND UI SWARE I WILL HELP HIM WITH MY LVL 42 |
| 23:50.03 | Kaso | RECONNAISSANT ? |
| 23:50.24 | Mr_Rabies2 | i don't even know what they were trying for on that word |
| 23:51.13 | Kaso | So its a level 42 hunter/rogue who wants 15 agi ? |
| 23:51.17 | Kaso | or is it a twink?# |
| 23:51.27 | Mr_Rabies2 | hunter |
| 23:51.29 | Mr_Rabies2 | 19 hunter |
| 23:51.33 | Mr_Rabies2 | that wants it for free |
| 23:51.42 | Kaso | his main is 42; does he mean, completely free? |
| 23:51.47 | Mr_Rabies2 | i'm thinking so |
| 23:51.58 | Kaso | hehe |
| 23:52.20 | Mr_Rabies2 | how do you folks deal with these people trying to run your addons |
| 23:52.36 | Thunder_Child | i hope they die? |
| 23:52.42 | Kaso | "trying to run" ? |
| 23:53.38 | Mr_Rabies2 | i'd probably snap and get them to install keyloggers or something after a week of getting "HAY CNA U REMAK TIHS IN A ACE VERZ ACE MODS R BETR" |
| 23:53.59 | Kaso | haha |
| 23:54.14 | Mr_Rabies2 | every time i see something similar to that i die a little inside |
| 23:54.22 | Kaso | Oh yes |
| 23:54.27 | Kaso | Ace whores really piss me off |
| 23:54.41 | Mr_Rabies2 | i mean |
| 23:55.06 | Mr_Rabies2 | i like ace, i don't have anything against it, but its like saying the ps3 automatically looks better because it may or may not have more advanced hardware |
| 23:55.09 | zenzelezz | I'd just tell them it already was Ace and l2code |
| 23:56.18 | Kaso | I wonder if any dongle based addons have ever had the "MAKE ACE LOL KTHAXZ" |
| 23:56.28 | Mr_Rabies2 | i'd also kill for a working trinketmenu |
| 23:56.39 | Kaso | When was it last updated Mr_Rabies ? |
| 23:56.44 | Mr_Rabies2 | 4/1/2007 |
| 23:56.58 | Mr_Rabies2 | for some reason...some ace libs or addons seem to break it |
| 23:57.02 | Mr_Rabies2 | but...it's not an ace addon |
| 23:57.03 | Mr_Rabies2 | O_o |
| 23:57.08 | Kaso | thats.. odd |
| 23:57.11 | cladhaire | Kaso: yes, we have |
| 23:57.15 | Kaso | it works with all ace things off? |
| 23:57.18 | Mr_Rabies2 | yep |
| 23:57.27 | Kaso | cladhaire, slap em for me :> |
| 23:57.29 | Mr_Rabies2 | it works with some ace stuff on |
| 23:57.33 | cladhaire | kk |
| 23:57.38 | Mr_Rabies2 | i turned off pitbull and it worked |
| 23:57.48 | Mr_Rabies2 | turned pitbull back on and turned off oRA and it worked |
| 23:58.14 | Kaso | What errors do you get when it isnt working? |
| 23:58.27 | Mr_Rabies2 | now i've gone into a standalonelibs setup to aid in memory usage/loading time and it's broken again |
| 23:58.29 | Mr_Rabies2 | um lemme see |
| 23:58.41 | Mr_Rabies2 | the options menu is completely blank, as is the trinket frame |
| 23:58.47 | Mr_Rabies2 | i highlight the trinket frame and get |
| 23:59.20 | Mr_Rabies2 | error: bad argument #1 to 'ipairs' (table expected, got nil) on line 559 in trinketmenu.lua |
| 23:59.46 | Kaso | im curious now, lemme take a lookie at the code |
| 23:59.52 | Mr_Rabies2 | stack trace shows the following |
