| 00:00.59 | Garoun|Loupana | yeah I'm our raid leader, so I don't have much chance of people making me sit |
| 00:01.16 | Garoun|Loupana | but I know that I'm not the best forsome encounters so I gladly take the OT roll |
| 00:01.20 | Garoun|Loupana | role |
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| 00:05.37 | Guillotine | Antiarc|Work: I've been playing since launch as well. I'm my guild's main tank and second in command in the guild. Not exalted with ANYONE |
| 00:06.20 | Garoun|Loupana | unfortunately some of the druids best tank gear is rep based :( I hate rep grinding |
| 00:06.39 | Guillotine | really? I'm not using any rep gear to tank |
| 00:06.46 | Guillotine | mostly crafted stuff |
| 00:06.49 | Guillotine | and Kara drops |
| 00:07.21 | Guillotine | Heavy Clefthoof/Stylin' Purple Hat/Zierhut's/Violet Signet |
| 00:07.26 | Guillotine | well, I guess the signet is rep based |
| 00:07.37 | Corrodias | my only rep items for tanking are the earthwarden and violet signet ones |
| 00:07.49 | Corrodias | and i was doing okay with braxxis's staff of slumber |
| 00:07.54 | Guillotine | I can't wait to get Earthwarden. so close >< |
| 00:07.59 | Guillotine | ya, I'm using braxxis right now |
| 00:08.21 | Garoun|Loupana | yeah, but after you finish grinding for earthwarden you might as well have gotten exalted with other factions :P |
| 00:08.27 | Guillotine | grinding for the Badge of Tenacity at this moment |
| 00:08.33 | Garoun|Loupana | got mine today :) |
| 00:08.36 | Garoun|Loupana | took 3 days |
| 00:08.38 | Corrodias | badge of tenacity? |
| 00:09.04 | Guillotine | wow, grats |
| 00:09.07 | Guillotine | Corrodias: ShowData={ |
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| 00:09.16 | Garoun|Loupana | uh oh :P |
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| 00:09.19 | Guillotine | whoops |
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| 00:09.43 | Guillotine | wtf |
| 00:09.46 | Guillotine | http://www.wowhead.com/?item=32658 |
| 00:09.47 | Guillotine | there we go |
| 00:09.49 | Guillotine | >.> |
| 00:09.52 | Guillotine | sry bout all the spam >< |
| 00:09.53 | Garoun|Loupana | http://www.wowhead.com/?item=32658 |
| 00:10.16 | Guillotine | Garoun: which guys did you grind? |
| 00:10.27 | Corrodias | i'd like that, but how do you get it? |
| 00:10.42 | Corrodias | j/k, i can read comments |
| 00:10.58 | Garoun|Loupana | I did the entire plateau |
| 00:11.28 | Garoun|Loupana | I started at bash'ir got bored, moved to wrath, then murdered boars/rays |
| 00:11.46 | Garoun|Loupana | and finally got the badge in Terror off a fear warden or whatever it'sname is |
| 00:12.13 | Guillotine | I'm farming the ethereal guys in the north |
| 00:12.27 | Guillotine | figure I'll get netherweave to sell and the prison keys at the same time |
| 00:12.41 | Guillotine | also get some primal mana |
| 00:12.52 | Guillotine | but if anybody here is on Draenor, don't take my spot >.> |
| 00:14.32 | TC-Working | ME ME!! |
| 00:14.48 | Garoun|Loupana | didn't know man drops off the bashir |
| 00:14.49 | TC-Working | oh wait, have to be nice to guild mates...damit |
| 00:15.02 | |Jelly|cooking | You do? |
| 00:15.09 | TC-Working | yes :( |
| 00:15.13 | |Jelly| | Hmm. |
| 00:15.18 | |Jelly| | So that's what I'm doing wrong. |
| 00:15.24 | TC-Working | well only the guild mates i know anyways |
| 00:15.36 | Corrodias | i do, too |
| 00:21.49 | Corrodias | do i any need ogri'la rep to do the depleted badge thing? |
| 00:26.38 | foxlit | Bah. |
| 00:26.52 | Corrodias | that's not an answer :( |
| 00:26.53 | foxlit | Choice of Lua editors is sort of weird :( |
| 00:27.42 | foxlit | Corrodias: they're on an obnoxiously low chance to drop. We can't really say if you need rep or not unless it drops for someone neutral with Ogri'la - but as most people after badges have Ogri'la rep up, we'll probably never know for sure |
| 00:33.22 | Corrodias | i haven't started ogri'la but i want a badge, so i'm going to find out :P |
| 00:41.42 | ScytheBlade1 | No, you don' |
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| 00:41.48 | ScytheBlade1 | t need the rep to have a badge drop |
| 00:41.54 | ScytheBlade1 | Good freaking luck getting it to drop though |
| 00:42.09 | ScytheBlade1 | http://www.wowhead.com/?item=32672 |
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| 00:49.46 | Corrodias | oh. hm. maybe i'd better just watch out for one to buy. |
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| 01:07.43 | Guillotine | Corrodias: It'll cost you several thousand gold |
| 01:09.02 | Guillotine | I figure I have to farm *somewhere* for money for my epic mount, might as well be there |
| 01:09.12 | Guillotine | also, want the consortium rep |
| 01:11.15 | Kirkburn|sleep | Interesting link time! http://www.data360.org/report_slides.aspx?Print_Group_Id=99 |
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| 01:22.16 | Kirkburn|sleep | nope |
| 01:22.25 | Kirkburn|sleep | US voting habits |
| 01:22.59 | Kirkburn|sleep | I find the position of atheism compared the others ... interesting. |
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| 02:12.57 | Thunder_Child | damn everyone is leaving |
| 02:13.21 | zenzelezz | good, less competition for Cairenn |
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| 02:14.34 | Thunder_Child | i didnt know Cairenn had to compete with anyone..... :) |
| 02:14.52 | zenzelezz | we compete for her, you fool |
| 02:15.01 | Thunder_Child | i dont go after married women |
| 02:15.08 | zenzelezz | then you aim too low |
| 02:15.33 | zenzelezz | all the best ones are taken, you just have to change their mind |
| 02:15.42 | Thunder_Child | all the best ones? |
| 02:15.49 | Thunder_Child | you sad sad little boy |
| 02:15.51 | zenzelezz | every single one |
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| 02:25.36 | zenzelezz | hey, I'm too shy/cowardly to communicate much with people in person, so I relieve the tension on IRC/guild chat :-p |
| 02:26.39 | |Jelly| | lol |
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| 02:41.44 | Thunder_Child | is wowi down for anyone else? |
| 02:42.50 | Thunder_Child | nvm, seems to be back again |
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| 03:11.24 | Mike-N-Go | I have a question. |
| 03:11.39 | Mike-N-Go | I am trying to pattern match 'Argnant Dawn-Horde' |
| 03:12.37 | Mike-N-Go | Currently, I have: i,j, target, whatever = string.find('Argnant Dawn-Horde', "^([^%-+]%-%a+)(.*)") |
| 03:16.13 | Mike-N-Go | I am not really to sound on the pattern matching, I understand it to a degree. |
| 03:18.03 | Mike-N-Go | http://pastey.net/48294 is a script I made to test in my Lua interrupter on the 4 hour car trip. |
| 03:19.58 | wobin | PS |
| 03:20.06 | wobin | Isn't it Argent Dawn? |
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| 03:20.33 | Mike-N-Go | Argent Dawn it is.. |
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| 03:49.06 | Atriace | Is there a function for setting the WoW UIScale? |
| 03:51.21 | Kaydeethree | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:51.28 | Atriace | hmm... Mods can't use slash commands, though I thought. |
| 03:51.49 | Kaydeethree | SetCVar("uiscale","0.xx") iirc |
| 03:52.00 | Atriace | Thank you. :) |
| 03:52.29 | Atriace | Is that documented on wowwiki? |
| 03:52.38 | Kaydeethree | setcvar? ya |
| 03:53.13 | Kaydeethree | Config.wtf_defaults has a (moderately) up-to-date list of all of the cvar strings that can be set/modified |
| 03:56.29 | Atriace | What's iirc for? |
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| 03:57.37 | Kaydeethree | if I recall correctly |
| 03:59.19 | Thunder_Child | if i rememeber correctly |
| 03:59.47 | Atriace | ... yes? :) |
| 03:59.54 | Atriace | oh! |
| 03:59.55 | Atriace | lol |
| 04:00.01 | Atriace | got it .... |
| 04:01.02 | Thunder_Child | :) |
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| 04:33.15 | Neebler | btw just thought I'd let everyone know that the Ruben texture in SharedMedia is the new hotness |
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| 05:05.25 | |Jelly| | My. Map. Is. Gone. |
| 05:05.50 | zenzelezz | hit M |
| 05:05.52 | zenzelezz | ;-o |
| 05:05.55 | Shirik | :( |
| 05:06.02 | Shirik | RDX didn't do it |
| 05:06.36 | |Jelly| | Minimap, rather |
| 05:11.28 | Thunder_Child | RDX did it RDX did it |
| 05:11.55 | Shirik | well RDX has a master reset button :P |
| 05:12.00 | Shirik | which undoes everything it could have done |
| 05:13.15 | Shirik | the /dtframestack for the minimap is MinimapCluster -> Minimap -> (unknown) -> MinimapBackdrop -> (2 unknowns) |
| 05:13.18 | |Jelly| | ...every addon should have that |
| 05:13.25 | Shirik | wrong window |
| 05:13.26 | Shirik | but that works |
| 05:19.32 | Shirik | I crashed devtools :( |
| 05:19.55 | |Jelly| | I broke WoW |
| 05:21.32 | |Jelly| | Anyone know of an addon that will suppress the "This addon is loaded and here's a paragraph all about it!" at load/reload? |
| 05:21.40 | Shirik | I've heard of one |
| 05:21.51 | Mr_Rabies2 | !StopTheSpam i think |
| 05:21.53 | Mr_Rabies2 | or !! |
| 05:22.26 | |Jelly| | durr...!StopTheSpam...it's on the top of the stupid AceUpdater pos thing |
| 05:25.42 | Mr_Rabies2 | :p |
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| 05:51.43 | Mr_Rabies2 | :/ trinketmenu still won't play nice with pitbull :( i'm about to do something stupid and likely break the addon beyond use |
| 05:52.18 | Thunder_Child | gratz |
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| 05:55.33 | Garoun|Loupana | what's wrong with it? |
| 05:55.40 | Mr_Rabies2 | it breaks as long as pitbull is loaded |
| 05:55.42 | Garoun|Loupana | my trinketmenu is working finewithpitbull |
| 05:55.56 | Garoun|Loupana | go go broken spacebar |
| 05:56.40 | Mr_Rabies2 | i don't know if it's pitbull or trinketmenu or what |
| 05:56.56 | Garoun|Loupana | I do get an error about unable to find 'mana' in bar_fader but other then that I use both of them regularly |
| 05:57.05 | Mr_Rabies2 | it like |
| 05:57.12 | Mr_Rabies2 | 1) ignores all my settings |
| 05:57.41 | Mr_Rabies2 | 2) when i do /trinket and show the frame, i see no trinkets in it, and mousing over the frame errors |
| 05:58.02 | Mr_Rabies2 | without pitbull, it works perfectly fine @_@ |
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| 05:58.39 | Garoun|Loupana | have you fully wiped out your saved variables for both to see if a fresh load works? |
| 05:58.49 | Mr_Rabies2 | i can try |
| 05:59.15 | Garoun|Loupana | try backing up all your variable files and wipe them out, it can't hurt at this point |
| 05:59.34 | Garoun|Loupana | I only know because I got my BAdge of Tenacity today so I've been using it religiously all night in KZ |
| 05:59.39 | Mr_Rabies2 | >:[ |
| 05:59.56 | Mr_Rabies2 | i hate you twiceover now |
| 05:59.57 | Mr_Rabies2 | >:[ |
| 06:01.15 | Mr_Rabies2 | okay |
| 06:01.20 | Mr_Rabies2 | fresh vars for both |
| 06:01.30 | Garoun|Loupana | dont' hate me, it took 3 days of farming to get taht crap |
| 06:03.34 | Mr_Rabies2 | breaks on fresh vars too |
| 06:03.54 | Mr_Rabies2 | what version of tm are you using? |
| 06:05.59 | Garoun|Loupana | looks like 3.61 |
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| 06:07.03 | Garoun|Loupana | have you tried disabling every mod except for pitbull and trinketmenu? |
| 06:07.06 | Mr_Rabies2 | i'm on 3.7 |
| 06:07.15 | Mr_Rabies2 | and no, not yet |
| 06:07.28 | Garoun|Loupana | that should probably be the next test |
| 06:07.55 | Mr_Rabies2 | i'll do that on an alt i don't care about addons on |
| 06:07.56 | Mr_Rabies2 | one sec |
| 06:09.25 | Mr_Rabies2 | first trying it on said alt with all my normal addons loaded, hum de dum |
| 06:09.51 | Mr_Rabies2 | to make sure its not some other anomaly |
| 06:10.15 | Mr_Rabies2 | yep breaks on him... lets see |
| 06:10.28 | Garoun|Loupana | and bugsack doesn't pick up anything? |
| 06:10.31 | |Jelly| | Mr_Rabies2: You win. !StopTheSpam = wonderful |
| 06:10.42 | Mr_Rabies2 | i'll check out bugsack next garoun |
| 06:10.52 | Mr_Rabies2 | i turned it off because it was breaking itself within 10 seconds before |
| 06:12.06 | Shirik | since when does BugGrabber detect VFL and disable it automatically -_- |
| 06:12.13 | Shirik | this is beyond incredibly annoying |
| 06:12.39 | Mr_Rabies2 | okay... seems like disabling everything but pitbull and TM works |
| 06:12.40 | Mr_Rabies2 | wth |
| 06:12.47 | Mr_Rabies2 | DOES NOT COMPUTE |
| 06:12.52 | Garoun|Loupana | now comes the fun part |
| 06:13.05 | Garoun|Loupana | trying to find out what mod it is that's conflicting :/ |
| 06:13.27 | Mr_Rabies2 | I'm gonna go out on a limb and say baggins |
| 06:13.29 | Mr_Rabies2 | but we shall see |
| 06:13.35 | Mr_Rabies2 | i dunno why |
| 06:13.50 | Mr_Rabies2 | but for some reason that seems to be my subconcious |
| 06:14.07 | Mr_Rabies2 | er, what my subconcious tells me |
| 06:14.48 | Mr_Rabies2 | newp |
| 06:14.54 | Mr_Rabies2 | time to go 5 addons at a time till i find it out |
| 06:15.58 | Cairenn | how many addons do you have? |
| 06:16.00 | Mr_Rabies2 | i'm sorry ckknight for ever doubting you :( |
| 06:16.07 | Mr_Rabies2 | about...190 folders |
| 06:16.17 | Mr_Rabies2 | but that's counting sub-addons like pitbull aura and stuff |
| 06:16.43 | Cairenn | then that's a silly way to do it - split the mods in 1/2, find which 1/2 causes the problem, then split that in half, then ... |
| 06:16.46 | ckknight | You will deny me three times before the cock crows, Mr_Rabies2 |
| 06:17.00 | Mr_Rabies2 | i've got an opening for a joke there |
| 06:17.04 | Cairenn | 5 at a time will take forever |
| 06:18.13 | Mr_Rabies2 | it's funny how exponentially my loading time goes up |
| 06:18.17 | Mr_Rabies2 | as i enable more addons :P |
| 06:18.20 | Mr_Rabies2 | i'm doing that now cair |
| 06:18.35 | ckknight | Mr_Rabies2: if you do it in a binary fashion, it will take math.ceil(math.log(190)/math.log(2)) iterations |
| 06:18.43 | Mr_Rabies2 | damn you and your math |
| 06:20.03 | Mr_Rabies2 | uh oh now i'm getting into the fubar army |
| 06:20.12 | Mr_Rabies2 | this is your turf again ckknight >:[ |
| 06:20.29 | ckknight | ~fubar |
| 06:20.53 | purl | fubar is f*cked up beyond any recognition, e.g. "This whole operation is fubar, soldier" (gay lisp included), or a Bar addon like Titan Panel and Telo's Infobar. |
| 06:21.13 | Mr_Rabies2 | except better |
| 06:21.30 | ckknight | I was going for the gay lisp quote |
| 06:22.21 | Mr_Rabies2 | i don't understand how any other addon could be doing this though |
| 06:22.23 | Mr_Rabies2 | 'm so confused |
| 06:22.45 | Mr_Rabies2 | it fixes itself somehow when i disable pitbull, |
| 06:23.03 | Mr_Rabies2 | but it also works with just those two (or those 2, plus all of pitbull's minimods) running |
| 06:25.36 | Shirik|zZz | wtf |
| 06:25.36 | Shirik|zZz | Cairenn's still awake? |
| 06:25.37 | Shirik|zZz | go to sleep! |
| 06:25.37 | Cairenn | heh |
| 06:25.37 | Shirik|zZz | anyway, night all |
| 06:25.37 | Cairenn | sweet dreams |
| 06:25.37 | Mr_Rabies2 | aha! i managed to break it |
| 06:25.37 | |Jelly| | Night! |
| 06:25.39 | Mr_Rabies2 | i'm currently blaming oRA |
| 06:25.40 | Mr_Rabies2 | but we shall see |
| 06:26.58 | Mr_Rabies2 | buahaha it was ora |
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| 06:34.13 | pakoz | yo all |
| 06:34.21 | |Jelly| | Hi |
| 06:36.39 | Mr_Rabies2 | man, that's a strange turn of events |
| 06:36.45 | |Jelly| | ? |
| 06:37.00 | Mr_Rabies2 | somehow....ora2....plus pitbull....break trinketmenu, which isn't an ace addon |
| 06:37.08 | |Jelly| | lol |
| 06:37.30 | Mr_Rabies2 | i wonder if ora2 by itself does it |
| 06:37.40 | |Jelly| | I know when I used Mazzle (NO, I don't anymore...) oRA2 and Trinket Menu worked well together. : / |
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| 06:41.17 | Mr_Rabies2 | oRA by itself doesn't do it |
| 06:41.18 | Mr_Rabies2 | O_o |
| 06:42.34 | Mr_Rabies2 | pitbull by itself doesn't do it |
| 06:42.35 | |Jelly| | Plot thickens! |
| 06:42.43 | |Jelly| | But 2+2=b0rk3? |
| 06:42.48 | |Jelly| | that's...strange |
| 06:42.48 | Mr_Rabies2 | yeah |
| 06:42.50 | Mr_Rabies2 | O_o |
| 06:44.33 | |Jelly| | Well. While we're talking about Pitbull...is there a certain place I can go to in order to get any textures for it? The plain ones are...well...boring |
| 06:46.07 | Mr_Rabies2 | it uses ora's textures |
| 06:46.07 | Mr_Rabies2 | also |
| 06:46.07 | Mr_Rabies2 | which may be a source of the breakyness |
| 06:46.07 | Mr_Rabies2 | :O |
| 06:47.52 | |Jelly| | lol |
| 06:47.52 | Mr_Rabies2 | there's some pack on ace updater that has a ton of textures in it |
| 06:47.53 | Mr_Rabies2 | SharedMediaLib |
| 06:47.53 | Mr_Rabies2 | i...think |
| 06:47.53 | Mr_Rabies2 | or surfaces |
| 06:47.53 | Mr_Rabies2 | or surfacelib |
| 06:47.53 | Mr_Rabies2 | i dunno |
| 06:47.53 | Mr_Rabies2 | i can't remember which one someone suggested earlier |
| 06:47.59 | |Jelly| | lol...i'll get them all and do what you're doing |
| 06:48.05 | |Jelly| | all = both (or all four) |
| 06:49.32 | Bleeter | heh, guildie's just reported a strange bug.... |
| 06:49.36 | |Jelly| | I have to admit...that stupid updater has made life pretty easy. |
| 06:49.54 | Mr_Rabies2 | plus the latest version updates like a laser |
| 06:49.59 | Bleeter | he was fishing in booty bay, got a lockbox, opened it up, two greens and a bluerecipe in it. he thought 'sweet', but had full bags. |
| 06:50.15 | Bleeter | hearthed to shattrath, ran up to the bank... opened up the box, only grays inside |
| 06:50.20 | Mr_Rabies2 | O_o |
| 06:50.23 | |Jelly| | ouch |
| 06:50.34 | Mr_Rabies2 | tell him to go somewhere else |
| 06:50.34 | Bleeter | he's since tested, and it'd seem that if you don't loot a lockbox in the same zone you fished it from |
| 06:50.35 | Mr_Rabies2 | and see |
| 06:50.37 | Bleeter | the loot will change |
| 06:50.53 | Bleeter | I've not verified this, just passing on what he's saying |
| 06:51.45 | Mr_Rabies2 | the fact that bartender's default setup doesn't use the same keybindings as blizzard's makes me sad |
| 06:52.10 | Mr_Rabies2 | it puts the bars in the right place, but they're the wrong number so you have to move them around to get the bindings right |
| 06:52.58 | Mr_Rabies2 | i'm so picky about addons :[ |
| 06:53.19 | |Jelly| | I just spent like five minutes trying to move my combat log one pixel. |
| 06:54.50 | Mr_Rabies2 | i just did the same with my newly working trinket menu |
| 06:54.51 | Mr_Rabies2 | :P |
| 06:55.07 | |Jelly| | At least I'm not alone. |
| 06:55.21 | Mr_Rabies2 | it's too close to my target frame now |
| 06:55.25 | Mr_Rabies2 | now it's too close to my player frame |
| 06:55.28 | |Jelly| | What did you do? Because I have oRA2 and Pitbull...and need a trinket menu. lol |
| 06:55.35 | Mr_Rabies2 | disable ora |
| 06:55.41 | |Jelly| | lol |
| 06:55.42 | Mr_Rabies2 | because i don't use it much really i don't think |
| 06:55.43 | Mr_Rabies2 | :O |
| 06:56.03 | Mr_Rabies2 | i'll yell at ammo and ckknight tomorrow probably and get them to figure out why the hell that could happen |
| 06:56.15 | Mr_Rabies2 | i'd get ahold of gello but he disappears more often than telo |
| 06:59.32 | ckknight | Blame Blizzard. |
| 06:59.33 | ckknight | srsly. |
| 07:01.20 | Mr_Rabies2 | trying to think how that could happen hurts my puny brain |
| 07:02.12 | Mr_Rabies2 | trinketmenu seems to be the only affected addon, and it only happens when BOTH are running....and it's not even an ace addon! does not compute :( |
| 07:02.26 | Mr_Rabies2 | well, all 3 i suppose |
| 07:04.24 | |Jelly| | The world's going to explode. :/ |
| 07:04.35 | |Jelly| | Or at least well...it should! |
| 07:05.04 | Mr_Rabies2 | i'm going to install bugsack again and see if it breaks itself in 10 seconds again |
| 07:06.06 | Mr_Rabies2 | it was like "more than x bugs in y time, disabling for z seconds" |
| 07:06.16 | Mr_Rabies2 | then after z seconds, it reenabled itself and broke again |
| 07:06.24 | |Jelly| | That's what happened when I first logged on with Mazzle after 2.1. |
| 07:06.38 | |Jelly| | I went to ask him about it. Wrote out a well thought out post. And he was a douchebag. |
| 07:06.49 | |Jelly| | I uninstalled Mazzle probably two minutes later. |
| 07:06.51 | |Jelly| | : / |
| 07:07.40 | Mr_Rabies2 | i don't involve myself with politics of addon authors :P |
| 07:07.54 | Mr_Rabies2 | hell, i'm using cosmos and an army of ace mods together |
| 07:08.02 | |Jelly| | lol |
| 07:08.16 | |Jelly| | I just know there are quite a few authors that are VERY against him. lol |
| 07:08.20 | Mr_Rabies2 | my only complaint between any of them is the inability to tell the cosmos patcher to not update cosmos addons |
| 07:08.47 | Mr_Rabies2 | and they're kinda up shit creek when it comes to finding willing bodies to help fix broken stuff |
| 07:09.05 | |Jelly| | Can't really say I blame them in that regard : / |
| 07:09.15 | |Jelly| | Everyone wants to use/make things...not fix them. |
| 07:09.28 | Mr_Rabies2 | i like fixing things, but i lack the knowledge |
| 07:09.36 | |Jelly| | same |
| 07:09.51 | Mr_Rabies2 | i'm not good at making things but i'm good at breaking them and fixing them if i have the required proficiency |
| 07:10.21 | Mr_Rabies2 | i guess i have no initiative, but i'm plenty resourceful :O |
| 07:10.27 | |Jelly| | hehe |
| 07:10.50 | |Jelly| | I have many pages of the WoWWiki on bookmark |
| 07:11.15 | Mr_Rabies2 | i don't see how bugsack finds errors that nothing else reports though |
| 07:11.33 | |Jelly| | It's ninja |
| 07:14.49 | Mr_Rabies2 | okay.. i just installed autobar and trinketmenu broke again |
| 07:14.54 | Mr_Rabies2 | buahahaha |
| 07:15.58 | Mr_Rabies2 | guess imma try to yell at jello :O |
| 07:16.05 | Mr_Rabies2 | er gello |
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| 07:37.37 | Nom- | Anyone seen a good mod to index alchemy recipes ? |
| 07:37.48 | Nom- | and make them available for viewing on non-alchemy characters ? |
| 07:37.49 | Kirkburn | Mr_Rabies2, "the inability to tell the cosmos patcher to not update cosmos addons" <-- huh? |
| 07:39.11 | Kirkburn | I mean, a fair bit of time has passed since I used Cosmos, but it /certainly/ had that option when I left |
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| 07:39.50 | Mr_Rabies2 | kirk... in its current implementation, there's no way i can tell it to not update or not install certain cosmos addons :O |
| 07:39.50 | Mr_Rabies2 | er, any addons that are on its svn |
| 07:41.25 | Mr_Rabies2 | so i can't use the updated version of cooldowncount because the cosmos patcher downgrades it |
| 07:41.26 | Kirkburn | What patcher are you using?? |
| 07:41.26 | Mr_Rabies2 | the latest one |
| 07:42.30 | Kirkburn | And you're saying you can't stop it updating certain addons? |
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| 07:42.31 | Kirkburn | Have you seen this option screen? the inability to tell the cosmos patcher to not update cosmos addons |
| 07:42.31 | Kirkburn | http://www.wowwiki.com/Image:CosmosInstallWindow.png |
| 07:42.31 | Mr_Rabies2 | hrm... i need to check that screen out |
| 07:42.31 | Kirkburn | (copy-paste brokzor ftw) |
| 07:43.02 | Kirkburn | If you're going to complain about something, it pays to actually check out the options first >_> |
| 07:43.19 | Mr_Rabies2 | i havent seen that option since i first installed it |
| 07:43.19 | Mr_Rabies2 | :O |
| 07:43.46 | Kirkburn | That just makes you useless, it's been there for well over a year :P |
| 07:43.50 | Mr_Rabies2 | probably clicked "don't show this window again" |
| 07:43.54 | Bleeter | lol, you mean when you first get a prog, you don't randomly press every button, every option etc. in some mad crazy effort to fuxor it over? :P |
| 07:44.09 | Mr_Rabies2 | i do, and i think that's the problem |
| 07:44.10 | Mr_Rabies2 | :O |
| 07:44.30 | Kirkburn | Anyway, http://www.wowwiki.com/Cosmos_Patcher for reference |
| 07:44.51 | Bleeter | put it this way, it's not something I suggest computer nubs do; but to someone who's able to 'bang the rocks together', it's a diff matter ;) |
| 07:46.21 | Mr_Rabies2 | i'm trying to figure out how to re-enable that thing again |
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| 07:47.00 | Kirkburn | And just so you know, the error Bugsack picks up (strsplit) is a Blizz bug. |
| 07:47.06 | Mr_Rabies2 | yeah |
| 07:47.12 | Mr_Rabies2 | on macrotext or something |
| 07:47.25 | Kirkburn | aye |
| 07:47.25 | Mr_Rabies2 | i did a stacktrace on it :P |
| 07:47.39 | Mr_Rabies2 | got a bunch of gibberish to me |
| 07:47.51 | Nom- | so noone know of a mod to index the new alchemy (and other trade) recipe links ? |
| 07:47.53 | Mr_Rabies2 | but i understood the "nachos con queso part" |
| 07:48.00 | Nom- | and make them available on another character.. |
| 07:48.01 | Mr_Rabies2 | er |
| 07:48.03 | Mr_Rabies2 | " part |
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| 07:55.00 | ScytheBlade1 | Haha, I think I win. |
| 07:55.11 | ScytheBlade1 | Not many 70 mages out there with a Sun Eater and Mongoose on it. |
| 07:57.13 | Nom- | nublet |
| 07:57.15 | ZealotOnAStick | Why would you blow Mongoose on a novelty toy? |
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| 07:58.03 | Nom- | Obviouisly he has too much gold and needs to send some to me |
| 07:58.18 | ScytheBlade1 | Because I have the mats sitting around doing nothing |
| 07:58.33 | ScytheBlade1 | Still have the mats for another two rounds of Mongoose too |
| 07:58.58 | ScytheBlade1 | But gold? Nah. 1100 total across all of my characters. |
| 07:59.01 | ScytheBlade1 | No flying epic |
| 08:02.36 | Nom- | Yeah, but a mongoose on a mage |
| 08:02.43 | Nom- | That's like putting a supercharger on a 60cc scooter |
| 08:02.47 | |Jelly| | Just got linked a Sword of Omen with Mongoose on it... |
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| 08:02.55 | |Jelly| | kind of threw up a little... |
| 08:03.23 | Nom- | lol |
| 08:04.19 | |Jelly| | http://img297.imageshack.us/img297/7614/wowscrnshot060207030305xn1.jpg |
| 08:05.35 | Mr_Rabies2 | Kirkburn |
| 08:05.36 | Mr_Rabies2 | i love you |
| 08:06.07 | Mr_Rabies2 | been trying to get that fixed for like |
| 08:06.07 | Mr_Rabies2 | months now |
| 08:06.07 | Nom- | what fixed? |
| 08:06.07 | Mr_Rabies2 | and i totally forgot about that window because it annoyed me and i disabled it 5 seconds into getting the new patcher |
| 08:06.18 | Mr_Rabies2 | Cosmos trying to update its addons regardless of me telling it to protect them |
| 08:06.33 | Nom- | lol |
| 08:06.43 | Nom- | That's why I don't use any of those addon launchers |
| 08:06.52 | Mr_Rabies2 | well, problem solved |
| 08:07.04 | Mr_Rabies2 | now i don't have a bunch of unused addons clogging my folder |
| 08:08.55 | Kirkburn | :) |
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| 09:17.06 | evl | pakoz: icecast or shoutcast |
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| 10:07.33 | Tem | http://tardmrr.pastey.net/48017 |
| 10:09.10 | SerpentKnights | hello |
| 10:10.22 | Silviu- | nice Tem |
| 10:10.23 | Silviu- | ;) |
| 10:14.52 | SerpentKnights | does anybody know how the energywatch addon works? |
| 10:16.22 | subbawt | lol tem, it took me a while to get it |
| 10:16.50 | Tem | SerpentKnights, why don't you open it up and see for yourself? |
| 10:16.58 | SerpentKnights | i do have it opened up |
| 10:17.11 | SerpentKnights | bit new at this >.> |
| 10:17.53 | Mikk | well, the only one that knows the guts of EnergyWatch will be its author... and people taking the time to understand it |
| 10:18.53 | SerpentKnights | cuz i wanted to compile a bit of everything into a small, clean running addon and i figured i start with that cuz it seems a bit simple set up |
| 10:20.11 | Mr_Rabies2 | mikk, i'm not sure anyone knows the guts of Energywatch anymore |
| 10:20.18 | Mr_Rabies2 | i think it's been dropped by 4 authors so far |
| 10:20.20 | Mikk | hehe |
| 10:20.31 | SerpentKnights | somebody took it up and make it working again |
| 10:20.38 | SerpentKnights | so it's updated now i guess |
| 10:21.17 | Mr_Rabies2 | last time that happened was like...december |
| 10:21.28 | Mr_Rabies2 | i dunno if it's needed fixing or not yet |
| 10:21.35 | Mr_Rabies2 | i don't use it anymore since pitbull has one built in |
| 10:21.35 | SerpentKnights | check again on ui.worldofwar.net |
| 10:21.55 | SerpentKnights | beldar looks like.. recreated it |
| 10:22.21 | SerpentKnights | er. maybe not recreate but.. revitalized it? >.> |
| 10:23.13 | Mr_Rabies2 | raised it from the dead as a functioning body perhaps |
| 10:23.21 | Mr_Rabies2 | for the fifth time |
| 10:23.27 | Mr_Rabies2 | it's ununununundead |
| 10:23.32 | SerpentKnights | lol |
| 10:24.01 | SerpentKnights | well.. all i know that it's working.. but i just want to get the idea of how it works so i can try to make my own >.> |
| 10:28.27 | Mr_Rabies2 | alternatively, you can look at gonffbar or kenergy |
| 10:28.35 | Mr_Rabies2 | maybe the combination of the 3 would get you something nifty |
| 10:29.46 | SerpentKnights | perhap, but i would admit i am quite new at this whole addon deal so i was hoping that somebody could help better the understanding of it >.> and yes i have been reading up bit on the lua working.. and trying to see the working of the code snippet within various addons.. |
| 10:30.28 | Mr_Rabies2 | i don't write addons, i just hang here to pester authors when i find some marginal bug that no one else will ever see and complain to them about it until they ignore me :p |
| 10:30.39 | SerpentKnights | lol |
| 10:30.41 | SerpentKnights | nice |
| 10:31.54 | SerpentKnights | ah.. i just like modding stuff and this one is by far the hardest one i took upon.. |
| 10:31.55 | SerpentKnights | >.> |
| 10:35.34 | SerpentKnights | hmm i'll try again in during the day when more people are probably up :) |
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| 12:50.38 | Shirik | 07:50:21 ‹|Jelly|› Ghost, eh? |
| 12:51.00 | Shirik | a ghost is when the server thinks you are still there, but you actually got disconnected |
| 12:51.30 | Shirik | my name will have a |Ghost at the end of it while my ghost is still sitting around being stupid (thus: |
| 12:51.36 | Shirik | 07:24:58 * Disconnected |
| 12:51.36 | Shirik | 07:25:10 » Nickname 'Shirik|zZz' is already in use |
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| 12:52.03 | cladhaire | my mom is a ghost |
| 12:52.05 | cladhaire | true story |
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| 13:44.35 | Lunessa | @ |Jelly| Hey the font you're seeking is Evanescence available for free at da.font.com |
| 13:45.25 | zenzelezz | my brother keeps trying to convince me to watch Heroes... it's getting annoying |
| 13:46.10 | Lunessa | In that case, I shall try to convince you to watch Heroes. Will that be less annoying? /me chuckles |
| 13:47.26 | zenzelezz | meh, they've yet to convince me to watch the LotR movies, I'm stubborn |
| 13:47.38 | Mr_Rabies2 | it has draaaagons |
| 13:48.20 | zenzelezz | there shouldn't be any in LotR |
| 13:49.20 | Lunessa | There are dragons in Middle Earth! But we only ever see Smaug in "The Hobbit." |
| 13:50.14 | zenzelezz | been a while since I read the Hobbit, but I believed he was the last one alive; at least with the exception of far east/north |
| 13:51.51 | Mr_Rabies2 | what was the witch king dude riding |
| 13:51.52 | Lunessa | Not certain on that. Been too long since I read The Silmarillion to brush up on my ME lore. |
| 13:51.59 | Lunessa | A wyvern |
| 13:52.23 | Aella | That doesn't breathe fire, it's not a dragon. =P |
| 13:52.53 | Mr_Rabies2 | witch king also known as ner'zhul |
| 13:52.54 | Mr_Rabies2 | cough |
| 13:54.11 | Mr_Rabies2 | http://uk.games-workshop.com/thelordoftherings/miniature-gallery/images/evil/witch-king-fellbeast.gif |
| 13:54.16 | Aella | That's an... interesting take on the sentence. |
| 13:54.19 | Mr_Rabies2 | that looks like a dragon to me okay >:[ |
| 13:54.22 | zenzelezz | woot, finally someone else using that quote! |
| 13:54.25 | zenzelezz | Lunessa++ |
| 13:54.42 | Aella | I didn't know the disturbing commander had lost his lack of faith. D= |
| 13:54.52 | Mr_Rabies2 | its just a happy dragon |
| 13:54.54 | Mr_Rabies2 | he's all |
| 13:54.55 | Aella | It's less dragon-looking in the movie. |
| 13:55.01 | Mr_Rabies2 | HAY GUYS WATS GOIN ON IN DIS THREAD |
| 13:55.10 | Aella | Specifically, the head looks completely un-draconic. |
| 13:55.10 | Lunessa | Bah... Missed a comma. It's early and this keyboard sucks. |
| 13:55.50 | Aella | It's just hard to describe why, to me, it looks very unlike the archetypal dragon. |
| 13:56.53 | wobin | not enough cranial space |
| 13:57.02 | wobin | Most dragons have larger brainpans |
| 13:57.09 | wobin | The smart ones anyway |
| 13:57.14 | Mr_Rabies2 | YOUR MOM HAS A LARGE BRAINPAN HOHO |
| 13:57.14 | Aella | Yeah, it's too snake-like of a head. |
| 13:57.31 | Lunessa | See, like I said... wyvern. |
| 13:57.38 | Mr_Rabies2 | he could be a special drake |
| 13:57.43 | Mr_Rabies2 | hence the look on his face |
| 13:57.47 | wobin | true |
| 13:57.48 | wobin | wyvyrn |
| 13:57.57 | wobin | cause he's only got two legs |
| 13:58.19 | Lunessa | That must have been fun to model and then animate. |
| 13:58.35 | Mr_Rabies2 | i don't see how a wyvern is all that much different than a dragon |
| 13:58.38 | wobin | And you gotta wonder how good you'll have to be with a morningstar if you've got those huge wings flapping -really close to your head- |
| 13:58.40 | Mr_Rabies2 | in non-wow terms |
| 13:58.41 | Mr_Rabies2 | that is |
| 13:58.42 | Mr_Rabies2 | http://www.ochogames.com/store/images/products/Wyvern_400.jpg |
| 13:58.53 | Mr_Rabies2 | i guess the two legs, but eh |
| 13:58.58 | wobin | yeah |
| 13:59.02 | Aella | According to my dictionary, a wyvern is a two-legged dragon with a spiked tail. |
| 13:59.04 | wobin | typically a wyvern has two legs |
| 13:59.08 | wobin | dragon has four |
| 13:59.19 | wobin | wyvern often has a stinger |
| 14:00.11 | Mr_Rabies2 | i'm a fan of how wow defines the fantasy creatures above most others |
| 14:00.30 | wobin | I don't really like the shadowdrake's heads |
| 14:00.32 | wobin | in wow |
| 14:00.33 | Aella | I mean, when you think about it, how different are cats and dogs? Well... one is usually a little bigger... um... there are... um... differences around the face... dogs wag their tail... |
| 14:00.37 | wobin | or whatever they're called |
| 14:01.07 | Mr_Rabies2 | shadowdrakes? |
| 14:01.11 | Mr_Rabies2 | netherdrakes? :O |
| 14:01.16 | wobin | thassit |
| 14:02.02 | Mr_Rabies2 | http://www.battle.net/war3/images/neutral/creeps/netherdragon.gif |
| 14:02.07 | Mr_Rabies2 | look better than they did in wc3 |
| 14:02.07 | Mr_Rabies2 | :P |
| 14:02.08 | Lunessa | You can only do so much with low-polygon-count models like WoW uses. I think most of the art looks pretty good for all that. :) |
| 14:03.29 | Mr_Rabies2 | i think it's just a slightly remodeleted regular drake |
| 14:03.30 | wobin | true that |
| 14:03.37 | Mr_Rabies2 | modeleted |
| 14:03.38 | Mr_Rabies2 | rofl |
| 14:03.40 | Mr_Rabies2 | modeled* |
| 14:03.42 | wobin | but then again, they're deliberately made cartoony |
| 14:03.43 | Aella | Slightly remodeled > slightly recolored. |
| 14:03.55 | wobin | Which I prefer to hyperrealism |
| 14:04.00 | wobin | cause that never works =P |
| 14:04.24 | Mr_Rabies2 | not with blizzard games |
| 14:04.37 | wobin | easier to encourage suspension of belief than suspension of disbelief |
| 14:04.47 | Mr_Rabies2 | they'd lose too much of their charm |
| 14:04.54 | Bleeter | and in case people here ain't seen it yet |
| 14:04.56 | Bleeter | http://www.lolwut.com/pics/bucket.jpg |
| 14:04.57 | wobin | "Whut, more work? =(" |
| 14:04.58 | Mr_Rabies2 | if they went with the crappy looking pseudorealism |
| 14:05.02 | Aella | Well, it can work fairly well... the problem I have with "realistic" games is they all look the same to me. |
| 14:05.24 | wobin | The more 'realistic' the more picky we are about errors in the realism |
| 14:07.24 | Mr_Rabies2 | http://www.mmorpg-world.net/bg/Everquest/images/everquest2-2.jpg |
| 14:07.26 | Mr_Rabies2 | looks awful |
| 14:07.36 | Lunessa | Most "hyper real" art in games looks plastic and odd to me. |
| 14:07.40 | Mr_Rabies2 | everything looks like some 3d animation student's freshman project |
| 14:07.51 | Aella | It looks stylistically identical to Neverwinter Nights. |
| 14:08.32 | wobin | Mr_Rabies: "Glass Sphere on Chess Board" |
| 14:08.55 | wobin | oh man, lens flare |
| 14:08.58 | wobin | MORE BLOOM |
| 14:13.51 | wobin | http://www.vgcats.com/comics/?strip_id=224 |
| 14:14.38 | Aella | Hehe. |
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| 15:09.38 | ag` | they should put real time lightning into the source engine |
| 15:09.50 | ag` | instead of all that bloom hdr stuff :P |
| 15:10.00 | a-stray-cat`lapt | but bloom is preeeeetty |
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| 15:10.05 | a-stray-cat`lapt | if completely overdone |
| 15:10.44 | a-stray-cat`lapt | the world only looks like it does in games with bloom if you've recently rubbed your eyes really hard for 5 minutes. |
| 15:11.14 | zenzelezz | I remember an article about that in PC Gamer, which used Oblivion as an example |
| 15:11.18 | zenzelezz | "Radioactive sheep!" |
| 15:11.22 | a-stray-cat`lapt | anyone have a working link to the blizzard torrent extractor? |
| 15:11.28 | a-stray-cat`lapt | all the links i find lead to a dead site :< |
| 15:12.07 | a-stray-cat`lapt | bloom is nice, but it really needs to only work on light sources and not everything that happens to shine a little bit |
| 15:12.12 | wereHamster | a-stray-cat`lapt, wikipedia page for blizzard downloader |
| 15:12.15 | a-stray-cat`lapt | and it needs to be toned down :X |
| 15:12.21 | a-stray-cat`lapt | wereHamster: dead link |
| 15:12.38 | wereHamster | windows system, right? I have a bash script.. |
| 15:13.05 | a-stray-cat`lapt | windows unfortunately :< |
| 15:13.15 | haste | I also have a bash script :D |
| 15:13.20 | a-stray-cat`lapt | maybe ill just write a quick program to do it, it cant be that hard ;< |
| 15:13.24 | a-stray-cat`lapt | or ill install cygwin |
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| 15:13.28 | a-stray-cat`lapt | so i can use your bash script |
| 15:13.58 | wereHamster | perl does work on windows IIRC.. |
| 15:14.01 | wereHamster | http://www.progenitus.com/extorrents |
| 15:14.58 | a-stray-cat`lapt | i think i have to install something for it |
| 15:15.05 | wereHamster | btw, the bash script that is linked to from the wikipedia page is mine.. I was surprised when I found out :) |
| 15:15.08 | wereHamster | yes, perl :) |
| 15:15.18 | a-stray-cat`lapt | curses! |
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| 15:15.52 | Mr_Rabies2 | there's a guy on the wow forums that's trolling that kid with cancer that got free stuff hardcore |
| 15:15.54 | Mr_Rabies2 | geez |
| 15:16.04 | Mr_Rabies2 | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/search.html?forumId=10001&characterId=1083311172&sid=1 |
| 15:16.09 | a-stray-cat`lapt | mardsen or something? |
| 15:16.15 | a-stray-cat`lapt | he's been at it since like 3 in the morning |
| 15:16.17 | a-stray-cat`lapt | when i woke up :/ |
| 15:16.26 | a-stray-cat`lapt | (it's now 8) |
| 15:16.37 | Mr_Rabies2 | one guy |
| 15:16.45 | Mr_Rabies2 | has managed to stir the forums into a huge ruckus |
| 15:17.24 | a-stray-cat`lapt | wtb weekend mods |
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| 15:17.58 | Mr_Rabies2 | i'd do it |
| 15:18.10 | a-stray-cat`lapt | i'd do it too |
| 15:18.12 | Mr_Rabies2 | for a modest fee too as long as i didn't have to move to irvine |
| 15:18.23 | Mr_Rabies2 | say...half what the current mods get |
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| 15:18.39 | Mr_Rabies2 | This Ezra situation is probably one of the biggest publicity stunts to backfire in world history.. |
| 15:18.39 | Mr_Rabies2 | It wouldn't suprise me if this issue ends up being discussed on television, radio, and other places outside this forum... |
| 15:18.47 | Mr_Rabies2 | i don't see how that's backfiring |
| 15:18.49 | Mr_Rabies2 | at all |
| 15:19.04 | a-stray-cat`lapt | its not |
| 15:19.16 | a-stray-cat`lapt | it's just pulled some crazies out of the woodwork ;o |
| 15:19.45 | Mr_Rabies2 | i think he's just a really good troll |
| 15:19.54 | Mr_Rabies2 | not subtle, but he does the job |
| 15:20.14 | a-stray-cat`lapt | i dunno, some of his threads are horrible |
| 15:20.41 | a-stray-cat`lapt | curse you WAU! |
| 15:21.10 | a-stray-cat`lapt | he had one "I hope his death is painful" or something |
| 15:21.18 | a-stray-cat`lapt | no one would touch that with a 20 foot pole ;/ |
| 15:22.17 | Mr_Rabies2 | there's no such thing as a low point when it comes to trolls |
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| 15:27.20 | Lunessa | He's a moderately successful troll - 6 pages of anger and growing. |
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| 15:29.31 | Mr_Rabies2 | i'm horrible at trolling |
| 15:29.36 | Mr_Rabies2 | i'm too brutally honest :( |
| 15:30.14 | a-stray-cat`lapt | trolling doesnt seem so hard |
| 15:30.32 | a-stray-cat`lapt | just misrepresent facts ever so slightly, misread every quote, and insult others |
| 15:30.37 | a-stray-cat`lapt | bam! 10 page troll thread. |
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| 15:31.05 | Mr_Rabies2 | i'm good at insulting others but that's about it |
| 15:31.32 | a-stray-cat`lapt | who isn't ;p |
| 15:31.38 | Mr_Rabies2 | i'd much rather post "stop making threads, stop posting, get out," etc |
| 15:33.34 | wobin | Mr_Rabies2 is a poopie pants |
| 15:33.42 | Mr_Rabies2 | get out |
| 15:34.01 | wobin | =( |
| 15:34.12 | Mr_Rabies2 | the more simple the better |
| 15:34.13 | wobin | Mr_Rabies2 is a mean poopie pants |
| 15:35.01 | Mr_Rabies2 | stop posting. no one wants to read your bs, it's not funny. it's not entertaining. stop posting. stop making threads. no one likes you. |
| 15:35.02 | Mr_Rabies2 | :P |
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| 15:35.21 | wobin | Now go and eat some worms |
| 15:35.25 | Mr_Rabies2 | >:[ |
| 15:35.34 | Mr_Rabies2 | man i'm tired |
| 15:35.40 | wobin | It's true. |
| 15:35.43 | wobin | I'm off to bed |
| 15:35.46 | wobin | night all |
| 15:35.49 | a-stray-cat`lapt | see but comments like "GTFO no one likes you" doesn't deter people! |
| 15:35.50 | Mr_Rabies2 | i want gummy worms now |
| 15:36.00 | a-stray-cat`lapt | and they're too common imo |
| 15:36.04 | a-stray-cat`lapt | oooh gummy worms |
| 15:36.15 | a-stray-cat`lapt | that perl script didnt work for me, curse you activeperl! |
| 15:36.20 | wobin | a-stray-cat`lapt: That's why everyone else has to say "QFT" and "Seconded" and "It's True" |
| 15:36.21 | Mr_Rabies2 | generally i don't do the longer posts because you start to lose the bad posters' attention |
| 15:37.08 | Mr_Rabies2 | a simple "get out" with no punctuaction usually does a pretty good job...probably because i've spent way too much time reading FYAD |
| 15:37.38 | wobin | Actually what they need is the ability to lock a thread to the poster |
| 15:37.43 | wobin | So only the poster sees it |
| 15:37.50 | wobin | And noone else =P |
| 15:37.57 | wobin | So they can post to it to their hearts content |
| 15:37.59 | Mr_Rabies2 | there was this thing on a forum i used to go to |
| 15:38.00 | a-stray-cat`lapt | invisible lock? |
| 15:38.06 | Mr_Rabies2 | that had a thing called a "hellban" |
| 15:38.07 | wobin | And believe they're actually getting the word out =P |
| 15:38.12 | Mr_Rabies2 | in which you could see your posts like normal |
| 15:38.15 | Mr_Rabies2 | but no one else could |
| 15:38.19 | wobin | yeah =) |
| 15:38.39 | Mr_Rabies2 | so you'd go crazy, because no one would ever respond to your "witty" posts |
| 15:38.51 | wobin | When I coded on a MUD we actually considered instancing the entire mud for some people as a punishment =P |
| 15:39.00 | a-stray-cat`lapt | thats awesome :O |
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| 15:39.09 | Mr_Rabies2 | now they just force all your threads into other forums so you get banned or laughed off the forums |
| 15:39.17 | Mr_Rabies2 | subforums, rather |
| 15:39.18 | Cairenn | wobin: tachy goes to coventry |
| 15:39.20 | a-stray-cat`lapt | clearly i need to code that into my guild's forums |
| 15:39.31 | wobin | Cairenn: how's that? |
| 15:39.40 | Cairenn | google that precise phrase ;) |
| 15:39.53 | Cairenn | we already use that on our sites |
| 15:40.59 | Mr_Rabies2 | problem is they can still bump threads |
| 15:41.11 | Cairenn | no, it doesn't show |
| 15:41.18 | Mr_Rabies2 | on this other forum |
| 15:41.25 | Cairenn | ah |
| 15:41.26 | Mr_Rabies2 | because they use an ancient version of vbulletin |
| 15:41.31 | Lunessa | I love the Coventry idea. :P |
| 15:41.40 | Mr_Rabies2 | one person's punishment for posting crappy threads was being put into a mode where anyone could edit their posts |
| 15:41.55 | Mr_Rabies2 | so for like, 10 seconds you'd see, yeah, man, i agree |
| 15:42.10 | Cairenn | there's another that we are considering getting |
| 15:42.23 | Cairenn | in addition to coventry |
| 15:42.33 | Mr_Rabies2 | then all of a sudden HAHA THAT'S AWESOME I LIKE BOATS and then a picture of a boat |
| 15:42.36 | Cairenn | miserable poster (or something like that, can't remember the exact name) |
| 15:42.41 | Mr_Rabies2 | <Edited by someone else> |
| 15:43.22 | wobin | Although if they supply that option, it should link to all their other accounts =P |
| 15:43.25 | Mr_Rabies2 | and another guy's posts went straight into the gas chamber, aka the trash bin forum where deleted threads go |
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| 15:45.49 | wobin | I have an unnatural urge to write something in lolcode |
| 15:46.04 | zenzelezz | don't we all |
| 15:46.27 | zenzelezz | give in to your hate |
| 15:46.36 | wobin | You mean h8 |
| 15:46.45 | Mr_Rabies2 | cair, since you guys use vbulletin extensively |
| 15:47.08 | Mr_Rabies2 | are you aware of any decent solutions to search by username for a huge huge database? |
| 15:47.28 | wobin | FTS? |
| 15:47.40 | Cairenn | you'd be best to ask dolby-wowi_ about that Mr_Rabies |
| 15:47.45 | Mr_Rabies2 | i know you're probably not the tech person responsible for that stuff, but you know :P |
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| 15:49.37 | Cairenn | ah yes, I did recall the name correctly - I *LOVE* the idea of miserable users: http://www.vbulletin.org/forum/showthread.php?t=121886 |
| 15:49.49 | Cairenn | "When classed as miserable, a member suffers ; |
| 15:49.49 | Cairenn | 1. Slow response (time delay) on every page (20 to 60 seconds default). |
| 15:49.49 | Cairenn | 2. A chance they will get the "server busy" message (50% by default). |
| 15:49.49 | Cairenn | 3. A chance that no search facilities will be available (75% by default). |
| 15:49.49 | Cairenn | 4. A chance they will get redirected to another preset page (25% & homepage by default). |
| 15:49.49 | Cairenn | 5. A chance they will simply get a blank page (25% by default). |
| 15:49.51 | Cairenn | 6. Post flood limit increased by a defined factor (10 times by default). |
| 15:49.53 | Cairenn | 7. If they get past all this okay, then they will be served up their proper page." |
| 15:50.35 | Mr_Rabies2 | for a forum i go to, they're rather limited on new hardware, but: |
| 15:50.41 | Mr_Rabies2 | "The problem is searching for posts and threads by particular user names. There is some limited functionality in place, but our post table is over 4GB and contains over 8 million records, so a couple of joins on it when performing a search can lock the entire site for 30 seconds to more than 6 minutes. Obvously that was a real problem." |
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| 15:51.05 | Cairenn | eeep, yeah |
| 15:51.33 | Mr_Rabies2 | so no search by username until our admin works something out :( |
| 15:51.38 | kaiden | looks like jjsheets has given up on infinibar :/ |
| 15:51.43 | Mr_Rabies2 | sigh |
| 15:51.55 | Mr_Rabies2 | if only addons could be coded smart enough to maintain themselves |
| 15:52.00 | kaiden | indeed! |
| 15:52.22 | Mr_Rabies2 | so many awesome addons have died prematurely due to coder burnout |
| 15:52.22 | kaiden | the world would be perfect if you could whisper an addon and tell it to change a feature and it do it ;p |
| 15:52.57 | Mr_Rabies2 | though that does kinda get into the animatrix second rennaisance episodes |
| 15:53.08 | Mr_Rabies2 | AI written well enough to be able to write better AI |
| 15:53.31 | kaiden | i dunno infinibar was nearly perfect except for like 2 bugs and a feature i wanted |
| 15:54.25 | kaiden | and now poor sylvanaar is burnt out too *sheds a tear for prat* |
| 15:54.53 | kaiden | i still say ckknight is a machine :P he can't burn out :P |
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| 15:55.21 | Tain | Great, addons becoming self-aware. "LF Sarah Connor - PST!" |
| 15:55.32 | Kaydeethree | ahaha |
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| 15:56.09 | Mr_Rabies2 | if and when he does eventually burn out it'll be like obi-wan hearing alderaan blowing up |
| 15:56.17 | kaiden | i think if that happened Tain most of them would explode under the thoughts of being inadequate, always looking at themselves in the mirror saying i could have done that better or i could do that too just like johnny rockstar down the street |
| 15:56.23 | Mr_Rabies2 | all of a sudden half of my addons will grind to a halt |
| 15:57.02 | Mr_Rabies2 | er, feeling alderaan |
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| 15:59.25 | Tain | Ok you know when Obi-Wan says, "As if millions of voices suddenly cried out in terror and were suddenly silenced" |
| 15:59.43 | Tain | Well when I first heard that as a kid I thought he said, "Millions of oysters" and it didn't make any sense to me. |
| 16:00.16 | kaiden | lol |
| 16:01.09 | Mikk | As if oysters crying out wouldn't be horrific enough? o.O |
| 16:01.17 | zenzelezz | good point |
| 16:01.38 | kaiden | What if they are crying out "eat me!" "i'm the one" "take my yummy goodness" |
| 16:01.42 | Lunessa | ewwww |
| 16:01.43 | kaiden | horrible... |
| 16:01.54 | zenzelezz | stop making such sexual remarks |
| 16:01.58 | kaiden | lol |
| 16:02.09 | Tain | I'm pretty sure having sex with oysters is illegal. |
| 16:02.22 | zenzelezz | this is getting creepy |
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| 16:02.37 | kaiden | Not in Arkansas |
| 16:02.38 | Mikk | Does it count as sex if they don't have eyes? |
| 16:02.52 | kaiden | Mikk, I think they call it foreplay |
| 16:03.38 | Mikk | I was going to make a joke here about not wanting to stick my genitalia into something that could close painfully but ... erm... that'd have backfired now wouldn't it. |
| 16:03.51 | Tain | You do have to watch out for those bearded clams, Mikk. |
| 16:04.01 | Mikk | Huhu :S |
| 16:04.20 | zenzelezz | just look out so you don't get crabs |
| 16:04.27 | Lunessa | I think it did just backfire. |
| 16:04.32 | Mr_Rabies2 | UNDA DA SEA |
| 16:04.38 | Mikk | God, this is sinking low :-P |
| 16:04.43 | Mr_Rabies2 | and on that note i'm goin to bed |
| 16:04.51 | Mr_Rabies2 | at noon |
| 16:04.53 | Mr_Rabies2 | :( |
| 16:05.11 | kaiden | Mr_Rabies, you'll never win at life by going to bed at noon pfft |
| 16:05.38 | Lunessa | Pffft. Noon is a perfectly acceptable time to go to bed. |
| 16:05.55 | kaiden | Not if you want to win miss america.. sheesh dont you know anything |
| 16:05.57 | Mr_Rabies2 | early to bed says ben franklin |
| 16:06.02 | Mr_Rabies2 | i'm just....way ahead of the crowd |
| 16:06.10 | Cairenn | I would think that having sex with oysters would depend on the size of your muscle |
| 16:06.17 | Mr_Rabies2 | nooooo |
| 16:06.22 | kaiden | zing |
| 16:06.26 | kaiden | cairenn wins |
| 16:06.48 | Mr_Rabies2 | that was entirely out of nowhere |
| 16:06.50 | zenzelezz | O_O |
| 16:06.58 | Mikk | Deep Shell 2: A little lube goes a long way. |
| 16:07.08 | kaiden | *puke* |
| 16:07.10 | Mr_Rabies2 | i'm gonna have nightmares now |
| 16:07.13 | Tain | Thar she blows. |
| 16:07.21 | zenzelezz | and here I was waiting for Cairenn to say something about how sad we all are |
| 16:07.26 | Lunessa | OMG - The images. |
| 16:07.29 | Cairenn | *grin* |
| 16:07.40 | Tain | Cairenn can get a little salty too. :) |
| 16:07.53 | Mikk | omg. salty. |
| 16:07.58 | Lunessa | But it's natural Sea salt. |
| 16:08.10 | Mr_Rabies2 | i'm pretty sure a new fetish just surfaced in japan |
| 16:08.17 | Mr_Rabies2 | like godzilla to demolish tokyo |
| 16:08.20 | Mikk | when doesn't one? |
| 16:08.26 | kaiden | wait a minute |
| 16:08.29 | Lunessa | Oyster Sex - now on DVD |
| 16:08.29 | kaiden | Godzilla's real?! |
| 16:08.30 | Mr_Rabies2 | every time a new one is mentioned |
| 16:08.42 | Cairenn | just be careful you aren't washed away |
| 16:09.13 | Tain | You also want to be wary of the red tide. |
| 16:09.32 | Mr_Rabies2 | not only is he real he once played basketball versus charles barkley |
| 16:09.41 | kaiden | i love all these obscure addons added to files.wowace.com that dont really explain what they are |
| 16:09.55 | kaiden | ForkliftGnome - A gnome with a forklift to load up your addons and knock holes in your wall |
| 16:10.18 | Lunessa | Why bother uploading code if you're not going to tell people how to use it? |
| 16:10.25 | Mr_Rabies2 | http://images.darkhorse.com/covers/g/gvb.jpg |
| 16:11.05 | Mr_Rabies2 | Until your last breath, you will remember what you were doing on the fateful day Godzilla met Charles Barkley. |
| 16:11.08 | Mr_Rabies2 | yep. |
| 16:12.38 | Lunessa | What a game! IT WAS AWESOME BABY, YEAH! |
| 16:15.52 | Mr_Rabies2 | i don't know what made charles barkley so huge |
| 16:16.01 | Mr_Rabies2 | all those steroids i bet |
| 16:19.21 | kaiden | Mr_Rabies, it was all the babies he ate |
| 16:19.41 | kaiden | now.. remember never say that in game in wow... i had a gm ban me for 3 hours once for saying the spammers ate babies |
| 16:19.49 | kaiden | said it referred to lude and sexual acts *boggle* |
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| 16:21.13 | Lunessa | lewd? |
| 16:22.49 | kaiden | i r specshul cuz i ken speel! |
| 16:23.00 | zenzelezz | I think you hurt his feelings Lunessa |
| 16:23.05 | Lunessa | OMG INBD |
| 16:25.40 | Lunessa | Sorry... was busy reporting idiots in my server forum for posting addresses and discussing shooting each other. |
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| 16:30.04 | Kaydeethree | ...! |
| 16:31.01 | Lunessa | :( |
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| 16:40.51 | Lunessa | ... :crickets: ... |
| 16:43.49 | ScytheBlade1 | Eh screw it |
| 16:43.50 | ScytheBlade1 | http://armory.worldofwarcraft.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Doomhammer&n=Sbo |
| 16:47.20 | Lunessa | ... doesn't load. |
| 16:47.32 | ScytheBlade1 | :/ |
| 16:47.37 | ScytheBlade1 | It's my mage with The Sun Eater |
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| 16:49.38 | Lunessa | Congratulations. |
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| 17:01.04 | Lunessa | ZOMG I thought you guys were kidding with the LOLCode stuff... |
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| 17:40.18 | Atriace | I've got a weird one... |
| 17:40.38 | Atriace | How do you devide the screen resolution height by the width? |
| 17:40.56 | Lunessa | ? |
| 17:41.15 | Atriace | I'm using ({GetScreenResolutions()})[GetCurrentResolution()] to get the screen res, but I need to then divide the height by width to find the decimal value of it. |
| 17:41.29 | Atriace | Ie, ({GetScreenResolutions()})[GetCurrentResolution()] = 1024x768. |
| 17:41.29 | Lunessa | First number = width, second = height |
| 17:42.21 | Atriace | The problem is ({GetScreenResolutions()})[GetCurrentResolution()] returns both numbers. How do I parse them out? (ie., var1 = 1024, var2 = 768) |
| 17:43.39 | Atriace | It should be possible, no? |
| 17:44.12 | Lunessa | http://www.wowwiki.com/API_GetCurrentResolution |
| 17:44.27 | Lunessa | It returns a number index. |
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| 17:47.07 | Atriace | I'm still not sure how I can retrieve the height and width individually. (I'd been to that page, btw, but thanks. :) |
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| 17:50.29 | Nerinia | one way: res = "1024x786" local x,y = strmatch(res, "(%d+)x(%d+)") local result tonumber(x) / tonumber(y) |
| 17:51.06 | Nerinia | "local result = tonumber..." |
| 17:54.15 | Atriace | Hmm.... that is nice, but... it looks like you've predefined the res as "1024x768". Any way to retrieve the current res and apply the arithmetic after? |
| 17:55.37 | Nerinia | ({GetScreenResolutions()})[GetCurrentResolution()]) |
| 17:55.40 | Nerinia | ? |
| 17:55.50 | Atriace | lol... :) |
| 17:56.02 | Atriace | oh.... here wait. |
| 17:56.19 | Atriace | res = ({GetScreenResolutions()})[GetCurrentResolution()]) local x,y = strmatch(res, "(%d+)x(%d+)") local result tonumber(x) / tonumber(y) |
| 17:56.20 | Atriace | ? |
| 17:56.49 | Nerinia | yeah, like that, but there's a '=' missing after 'local result' |
| 17:57.25 | Atriace | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:58.06 | Lunessa | Sorry... got distracted by work. |
| 18:00.04 | Atriace | No worries, Lunessa. I appreciate the help. |
| 18:03.49 | wereHamster | Atriace, what about res = select(GetCurrentResolution(), GetScreenResolutions()) ? |
| 18:04.18 | nevcairiel | just different syntax, same function :) |
| 18:04.56 | wereHamster | less memory consumption? :P |
| 18:05.34 | Atriace | Where has Nerinia gone, I wonder. |
| 18:06.00 | Atriace | I'm still getting my bearings in LUA, but "result" is just another variable, right? I could substitute that with something else like myVar, right? |
| 18:06.09 | nevcairiel | yea |
| 18:06.13 | Atriace | Good. |
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| 18:09.10 | sys_rage | moo? |
| 18:09.52 | nevcairiel | moo! |
| 18:10.03 | sys_rage | ! |
| 18:10.13 | Atriace | Just for the record, Nevcairiel rocks. |
| 18:17.21 | nevcairiel | I do ? Cool. |
| 18:19.57 | leethal | nah you don't |
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| 18:21.34 | nevcairiel | :( |
| 18:21.52 | leethal | give me $300 and I'll teach you how to rock! |
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| 18:23.07 | foxlit | leethal, it has come to my attention that you haven't passed my certification test for teaching other people how to rock. Give me $500 to take it. |
| 18:29.39 | Lunessa | I'll teach you how to rock for free. First, upi put on this ball and chain, stripped suit and pick pup this hammer... |
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| 18:45.15 | Atriace | I'm looking through the LUA manual and I can't find a description of what c, d, E, e, f, g, G, i, o, u, X, x, and q do. Anyone have a link? |
| 18:46.00 | wereHamster | you mean in string.format? |
| 18:46.04 | Atriace | yup |
| 18:46.19 | wereHamster | all but %q are same as in printf() |
| 18:46.35 | wereHamster | %q prints the string in double-quotes |
| 18:47.17 | Atriace | so, where do you find out what the others do? |
| 18:47.25 | cogwheel | google printf |
| 18:47.36 | cogwheel | it's standard C |
| 18:47.48 | Atriace | Ah! |
| 18:47.52 | Atriace | Thanks. |
| 18:48.20 | cogwheel | note that WoW has an extra feature carried over from Lua 4.x which is VERY useful for localization (and I wish Cide were here so I could demonstrate more easily :P) |
| 18:48.52 | cogwheel | string.format("%2$d %1$d", 3, 4) == "4 3" |
| 18:49.50 | cogwheel | putting a number from 1-9 immediately after the % and followed by a $ sets the argument position that that formatting code uses. Here's another example: |
| 18:50.01 | amro | cogwheel: you mean its not in 5.x? |
| 18:50.09 | cogwheel | amro: no |
| 18:50.24 | cogwheel | I had to recreate it for my Lua511wow distribution |
| 18:50.31 | Atriace | That is really nifty. |
| 18:50.52 | cogwheel | string.format("%2$d, %d, %1$d, %d", 1, 2, 3) == "2, 3, 1, 2" |
| 18:51.08 | wereHamster | I'm wondering why they removed it from lua 5.. |
| 18:51.11 | amro | cogwheel: got a link to it? (your distro) |
| 18:51.34 | cogwheel | http://sf.net/projects/lua511wow |
| 18:51.39 | amro | thanks |
| 18:53.19 | Atriace | I'm trying to do a equivelant operation on a global myVar to a number, and it's coming out nil. So, I'm assuming I just needed to convert it to a string before doing the test. |
| 18:54.10 | Atriace | string.format('%i', myVar) ? |
| 18:55.52 | Atriace | nuts.... it's still not working. |
| 18:57.29 | cogwheel | eeeeww... very bad practice :P |
| 18:57.51 | cogwheel | remember that Lua uses floating point numbers. In order to test "equivalence" you actually need to test within a tolerance. |
| 18:58.41 | Atriace | hehe... I'm still learning. Sorry, cogwheel. ;) |
| 18:58.53 | cogwheel | if abs(var1 - var2) < 0.0001 then .... end |
| 18:59.21 | cogwheel | Atriace: hehe... np. it's something you don't usually learn unless you take computer science classes |
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| 18:59.44 | foxlit | <Atriace> I'm trying to do a equivelant operation on a global myVar to a number, and it's coming out nil. So, I'm assuming I just needed to convert it to a string before doing the test. |
| 18:59.53 | foxlit | If you get nil from tonumber(), chances are you passed it nil to begin with |
| 19:00.21 | cogwheel | or some value that can't be converted |
| 19:00.49 | Atriace | Well, myVar is returning my screen resolution ratio (1.333333333333333) |
| 19:01.08 | cogwheel | kk. the tolerance is what you need then |
| 19:01.15 | Atriace | But it won't let me do: myVar=="1.33333333333" then |
| 19:01.20 | Atriace | comes out nil |
| 19:01.29 | cogwheel | s/nil/false/ |
| 19:02.15 | Atriace | I'm really wishing I took a CS class now. -_- |
| 19:02.40 | cogwheel | oh and don't put the number in quotes unless myVar is a string |
| 19:02.47 | cogwheel | 1 == "1" will always be false |
| 19:03.05 | Atriace | I'll make note of it. |
| 19:03.41 | Thorarin | It could be a string, I don't think 1.333333333333333 can be represented in floating point math |
| 19:04.15 | cogwheel | Most numbers can't be precisely represented in floating point... that's irrelevant... |
| 19:04.23 | Thorarin | It's not |
| 19:04.24 | wereHamster | myVar == 1024/768 |
| 19:04.33 | Thorarin | Comparing will cause problems |
| 19:04.42 | cogwheel | Thorarin: I think we've established that :P |
| 19:05.09 | Thorarin | Then it's not irrelevant ;) |
| 19:05.45 | cogwheel | but the idea of storing a number in a string instead of a very close approximation is silly... I highly doubt a function that returns a number would ever convert it to a string in order to be more accurate |
| 19:07.50 | foxlit | >>> 1024/768 |
| 19:08.26 | Atriace | Can anyone fix this then? http://wowi.pastey.net/48964 |
| 19:08.34 | wereHamster | (me emulating Cide) foxlit, 1.3333333333333 |
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| 19:09.37 | cogwheel | if abs(myVar - 1.6) < 0.0001 then |
| 19:09.45 | leethal | wereHamster: +1 cookie |
| 19:09.53 | Atriace | lol |
| 19:10.13 | cogwheel | you might want to use a named variable for the tolerance if you need to use it anywhere else |
| 19:10.16 | wereHamster | aw gee :) |
| 19:10.57 | Atriace | so, a test of other screen resolutions would simply entail: if abs(myVar - 1.33333333333) < 0.0001 then ? |
| 19:11.43 | Atriace | or consequently: if abs(myVar - 1.6) < myTolerance then ? |
| 19:12.33 | wereHamster | Atriace, I think myVar == 1024/768 should work, too for myVar=1.333.. |
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| 19:14.37 | foxlit | Tbh |
| 19:14.45 | foxlit | 1024 / 768 == 4 / 3 |
| 19:14.59 | foxlit | And Lua understands that |
| 19:15.30 | leethal | I wish lua could understand anything at all |
| 19:15.34 | leethal | sadly it's just plain dumb =( |
| 19:15.36 | wereHamster | so myVar==4/3, myVar==16/9 etc ? |
| 19:15.43 | leethal | doing exactly what it's told |
| 19:15.54 | clad|afk | leethal: ? |
| 19:15.54 | leethal | </intellectualtroll> |
| 19:15.59 | clad|afk | lol |
| 19:16.44 | foxlit | wereHamster: yeah |
| 19:18.07 | wereHamster | lol.. http://www.salva-mea.org/index.php?page=dasrunde |
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| 19:41.05 | zenzelezz | am I reading it wrong, or does the GameTimeFrame run an OnUpdate without checking the interval? Fair enough it's not doing anything heavy, but still |
| 19:42.00 | zenzelezz | or maybe that's what that weird time calculation is, I'm confused about it |
| 19:43.06 | Aella | It only runs the body of it every minute. |
| 19:43.26 | Aella | That's what the (time ~= this.timmeOfDay) is. |
| 19:43.32 | Aella | *this.timeOfDay |
| 19:43.37 | zenzelezz | well that's a relief |
| 19:44.39 | zenzelezz | my sense of logic is out of tune today, game keeps shouting errors in my code |
| 19:45.10 | Aella | It'd be kinda nice if it kept its voice down... |
| 19:46.44 | leethal | woo, scarlet spellbinders |
| 19:46.51 | leethal | my hearth beats faster |
| 19:47.03 | zenzelezz | hearthstone? |
| 19:47.18 | leethal | *what if* they drop a crusader |
| 19:47.29 | zenzelezz | enchant recipe? |
| 19:47.44 | leethal | ya |
| 19:48.15 | zenzelezz | everyone seemed to be selling that a while ago... was either after 2.0 or BC |
| 19:48.41 | leethal | used to farm those pre TBC |
| 19:48.48 | leethal | just questing now though |
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| 19:54.16 | Aella | Aaarrr... |
| 19:54.45 | |Jelly| | Lunessa: <3<3<3<3 Thank you for telling me what that Font was! |
| 19:54.56 | Aella | Job opening for basically my dream job, for which I fit all the requirements. Only catch? Still got three years left in college. D= |
| 19:55.06 | Lunessa | Haha... I own the albums and recognized it. |
| 19:56.26 | |Jelly| | Anyone have any idea of an addon that I can look at to figure out how to hide multiple frames upon exiting a group? Or maybe a link to tell how? WoW Wiki, as far as I can see (or understand, rather) isn't being super helpful. |
| 19:58.46 | Aella | What kind of frames? |
| 19:59.25 | |Jelly| | SwStats / Healbot / PoM Tracker / KLH (yes, I know it's already an option) |
| 19:59.56 | |Jelly| | Or. If there's an addon that will already do this, that'd be awesome. |
| 20:00.19 | Lunessa | Don't those addons come with /commands to toggle them already? |
| 20:00.21 | Aella | The only issue I could see is secure frames... |
| 20:00.22 | |Jelly| | I more-or-less want to just clean up my UI automagically when I leave a group. Call me lazy. |
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| 20:12.58 | kaiden | Jelly, why not just make a macro that calls a :Hide(); to each of the frames? |
| 20:13.09 | kaiden | or the appropriate /command toggle |
| 20:13.31 | kaiden | i mean it's 1 step but not too bad to press a button to have it do all that for ya |
| 20:13.33 | leethal | hooking the leave/join party events and hide some frames shouldn't be hard |
| 20:14.14 | kaiden | coding an addon would indeed be extremely easy to do it, but i'm of the mind why bother when he can just write a 1 button press macro that does it :p |
| 20:15.15 | Shadowed | Why do you need unit frames, Blizzard provides perfectly good ones =p |
| 20:16.03 | kaiden | because the blizzard ones you can hardly see and they dont have text on, there's quite a large difference between being unable to read something or having a lack of information available |
| 20:16.06 | kaiden | and pressing a button |
| 20:16.13 | kaiden | so attempt a better arguement ;) |
| 20:16.36 | Shadowed | I'm too lazy for that |
| 20:16.51 | Shadowed | theres a lot of things you could track yourself that you don't because it's easier though |
| 20:17.04 | |Jelly| | "Perfectly good" rofl |
| 20:17.23 | Shadowed | they're fine imo |
| 20:18.06 | |Jelly| | They make me want to gouge my eyes out. |
| 20:18.06 | Lunessa | Actually, I'm currently using the default unit frames and Clad's hawt'n'smexy PerfectRaid for raiding... |
| 20:18.17 | kaiden | Once again, there's a difference in having information readily available and pressing a button :) |
| 20:18.22 | leethal | blizzards own unit frames aint perfectly good until they work as good as PitBull does |
| 20:18.27 | Shadowed | not really |
| 20:18.31 | leethal | PitBull, on the other hand, is perfectly good |
| 20:18.36 | kaiden | sure i can write macro that adds UnitHealth to the chatframe when i type it |
| 20:18.36 | Shadowed | It takes 10 seconds to make a small addon to do it |
| 20:19.09 | Shadowed | It's not like the small addon is going to waste 50% of the CPU/Memory available |
| 20:19.58 | kaiden | but that requires me to press that button every single time i want to know my current exact health, when in comparison with how often you leave/join a party |
| 20:19.58 | kaiden | ok obviously you are missing the point |
| 20:19.58 | kaiden | the point is, if he doesn't know how to do it, why bother running through the fights and arguements when you can just make a macro |
| 20:20.01 | kaiden | if he can code .. then obviously run make an addon |
| 20:20.05 | |Jelly| | "but that requires me to press that button every single time" See why I want an addon to automagically hide things? |
| 20:20.07 | Shadowed | Because it's incredibly simple and theres documentation to do it? |
| 20:20.30 | kaiden | |Jelly|, go learn how to write an addon, learn what RegisterEvent's do |
| 20:20.43 | kaiden | and trigger on PARTY_MEMBERS_CHANGED i believe that also notices when you join/leave a party |
| 20:21.25 | |Jelly| | That's more or less what I've been looking at. |
| 20:21.28 | kaiden | or you could be frivolous and OnUpdate and set a variable to UnitName(Party2) and when it's nil hide frames when it's not show them |
| 20:21.58 | Aella | Why party2? =P |
| 20:22.16 | Shadowed | why an OnUpdate anyway |
| 20:22.21 | Shadowed | PEW/PMC would be all you need |
| 20:23.24 | Aella | That's why he said frivolous. |
| 20:23.24 | kaiden | Shadowed, that's why that magical bit of text was there "or you could be frivolous" |
| 20:23.25 | kaiden | Aella, doesn't Party1 always show your own name? |
| 20:23.25 | kaiden | i have never bothered looking at it |
| 20:23.25 | Aella | No, party1-party4 is the other players. |
| 20:23.25 | kaiden | but i figured you would always be party slot 1 |
| 20:23.25 | kaiden | ah |
| 20:23.43 | Aella | It's weird like that. The party doesn't include the player (though you're always in a party), but a raid does. |
| 20:23.46 | |Jelly| | Yeah. /target party1 targets...the "first" party member. |
| 20:25.01 | Shadowed | Sanity reasons i'd imagine |
| 20:26.16 | kaiden | I thought it required a bit of insanity just to play the game in the first place :P |
| 20:26.40 | kaiden | You know you are bored at work when you start designing ui's on.. pencil and paper |
| 20:26.52 | Aella | Indeed. |
| 20:27.04 | kaiden | but i made a hella sexy ui :P |
| 20:27.10 | kaiden | "made" |
| 20:27.29 | Lunessa | that's why it is /playWoW [nosane] |
| 20:28.14 | kaiden | I just wish that eePanels had some of the features of DiscordArt like the ability to set a frames dock to another frame and then move the texture with extremely precise button presses ;p |
| 20:28.24 | kaiden | so that i could make my paper ui easier :) |
| 20:28.47 | Atriace | You made a UI, Kaiden? |
| 20:30.18 | Lunessa | EEPanels will dock to a frame. It just lacks the "nudge" feature DFM had. |
| 20:30.54 | kaiden | hrm, where's the docking at? i've never seen it in the FuBar menu or the Niagara config |
| 20:30.58 | |Jelly| | Nudge = love |
| 20:31.26 | kaiden | then again i'm blind in 1 ear and cant hear out of my nose anymore so I probably overlooked it ;) |
| 20:31.29 | Lunessa | I would have SWORN I saw docking mentioned in the wiki... |
| 20:31.45 | |Jelly| | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=106773925&sid=1 i think there's something mentioned in that |
| 20:32.25 | kaiden | i'm still petitioning for a square border to be added that we can just tell it how thick to make the border and then choose the color / opacity |
| 20:32.33 | kaiden | so sick of making 500 frames to create pseudo borders |
| 20:32.53 | Lunessa | http://www.wowace.com/wiki/EePanels -- Changing A Panel's Parent |
| 20:32.53 | zenzelezz | nothing like doing a heroic with 1400ms latency |
| 20:32.54 | zenzelezz | as a tank |
| 20:33.10 | kaiden | Lunessa, docking + parenting are different |
| 20:33.38 | kaiden | docking == SetPoint parenting is just telling the frame who it's a child of so that if that frame disappears it disappears too (as in hide) |
| 20:34.37 | cogwheel | WTB sticky requests ;) http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=108381822&sid=1 |
| 20:34.43 | Aella | What happens to a frame if the frame it anchors to is hidden? (I should know this.) |
| 20:35.03 | kaiden | sorry, i should have said anchoring not docking ;) same thing |
| 20:35.23 | kaiden | Aella, if a frame is parented to another frame, if you hide the parent, the child disappears too |
| 20:35.41 | Aella | I know that happens for parenting. |
| 20:35.41 | kaiden | if a frame is anchored to a hidden frame it still stays anchored to it because the frames visibility is just turned off |
| 20:35.47 | kaiden | doesn't kill the frame |
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| 20:35.52 | Aella | So it's effectively there, just invisible. |
| 20:35.56 | kaiden | yup |
| 20:35.59 | Aella | Makes sense. |
| 20:36.09 | leethal | makes RAM too |
| 20:37.00 | kaiden | Anchor points are wonderful though can get quite confusing when moving frames around because everytime you reanchor you have to understand the laws of - and positive movement change |
| 20:37.09 | |Jelly| | reported, Cog |
| 20:37.34 | kaiden | so lets all beg evil elvis to come back to wow |
| 20:37.57 | kaiden | and start working on eePanels again, or of course convince ckknight that taking over eePanels and making it super fantastic (yes i said it) is a great thing to do |
| 20:38.04 | cogwheel | ty :) |
| 20:38.21 | ckknight | I have enough on my plate |
| 20:38.51 | kaiden | ckknight, i know :) and you are an amazing dev |
| 20:38.55 | kaiden | you know we all love ya |
| 20:38.57 | Lunessa | Nice post Cog. |
| 20:39.02 | ckknight | yep |
| 20:39.03 | kaiden | i think if you got burnt out most of us would quit playing |
| 20:39.12 | ckknight | :-P |
| 20:39.17 | kaiden | i for one dont want to play if it means i dont have access to all of your wonderful mods |
| 20:39.22 | kaiden | though i will deeply miss sylvanaar |
| 20:39.22 | ckknight | currently messing with the whole Threat-1.0 thing |
| 20:39.36 | kaiden | and i wanna yell quite profusely at JJSheets for giving up on infinibar so easily :P i loved that bar mod |
| 20:39.47 | ckknight | I use Bartender3 |
| 20:40.26 | kaiden | no offense to nevcairiel but bartender3 drives me nuts everytime i try to configure it |
| 20:40.52 | kaiden | i'm one of those people that gets absolutely freaked out with all of that stuff on my screen even when just in config mode :P |
| 20:41.06 | Fin | cogwheel: any chance you could stick those posts up on a web page somewhere as a single page rather than series of posts? |
| 20:41.30 | kaiden | cogwheel, very nice post btw |
| 20:41.54 | cogwheel | Fin: I've been pondering it. I was thinking of writing it in HTML and writing a lua script to convert it to blizzard's forum code |
| 20:42.05 | Lunessa | You should ask them to lock it too... so it's not 10 pages of "omg how do I write ... plz halp!" |
| 20:42.14 | Fin | cogwheel: just because I *know* that next time I go to the bookmark for the post for reference, the forums will be down / your posts will have mysteriously disappeared / it'll take 30 minutes to load |
| 20:42.43 | nevcairiel | kaiden: i know the configuration sucks, any ideas for a new approach ? :P |
| 20:43.12 | Atriace | I have the most annoying lua bug right now and I have no clue what's causing it: http://axisc.net/bug.jpg |
| 20:43.14 | Fin | Blizzard should've hired me, I could've helped make their community support so much better |
| 20:43.24 | cogwheel | if you've got SVN, you can check it out from svn://eternalblue.dnsalias.net/cogwheel/docs/trunk ;) |
| 20:43.45 | Lunessa | As long as it never ends up looking like the discord configuration screen. :P |
| 20:43.55 | Fin | cogwheel: nice, ta |
| 20:44.20 | Fin | bah, I'm just bitter |
| 20:44.26 | Atriace | Is this bug normal? |
| 20:44.40 | kaiden | nevcairiel, in all honesty the way jjsheets approached configuration and the actual bar development seems to be the best way to approach it, obviously with a few changes.. |
| 20:45.02 | nevcairiel | i didnt ever look at infinibar |
| 20:45.03 | nevcairiel | :D |
| 20:45.05 | kaiden | nevcairiel, i'm sure it's just me but the idea of 100% customizability with that much ease of configuration over how many bars you have and how many buttons each bar has is nifty |
| 20:45.12 | kaiden | you should give it a look over, it's quite impressive |
| 20:45.28 | Fin | it's not exactly intuitive |
| 20:45.39 | kaiden | the only complaint i have is 1, since it's using the whole securebutton format or whatever it is, your spells are saved in your .wtf so the spells on them are there |
| 20:45.43 | nevcairiel | i am actually planning on bartender4, with more flexible configuration, but i am not sure howto actually do the configuration interface |
| 20:45.49 | nevcairiel | dewdrop cannot handle what i want |
| 20:45.49 | kaiden | and he forgot to include the ability to say auto use highest rank for each button |
| 20:46.04 | kaiden | nevcairiel, abuse waterfall |
| 20:46.21 | nevcairiel | thats what i thought too |
| 20:46.25 | kaiden | the idea i had for it was along the lines of waterfall with the left side of it showing each of the bars you have |
| 20:46.26 | Fin | too many options can make things confusing, but it's difficult to layer it so that the finer grain settings are still available without obscuring anything else |
| 20:46.31 | kaiden | with a + beside it so you could expand it |
| 20:46.35 | kaiden | and each button shown under that |
| 20:46.50 | nevcairiel | each button |
| 20:46.51 | nevcairiel | hmm |
| 20:46.53 | nevcairiel | thats an idea |
| 20:46.53 | Fin | nevcairiel: ooooooooh |
| 20:46.59 | Fin | bt4 |
| 20:47.08 | kaiden | Fin, jj's problem is his presentation, not how intuitive it is |
| 20:47.12 | nevcairiel | its only a faint idea yet :P |
| 20:47.30 | kaiden | things can be confusing and intuitive at the same time, based on the person viewing them |
| 20:47.38 | Fin | kaiden: it's a problem with how intuitive the presentation is, I think :) |
| 20:48.41 | kaiden | if i were to do a bar mod it would follow flexbar2/infinibars method of being infinitely configurable for how many bars/buttons per bar has, it would have nudge features in the waterfall panel it would have the ability to set a button on a bar to inherit the bars configuration or use it's own special configuration |
| 20:49.01 | kaiden | it would also have the ability to set the bar to auto use the highest rank of each spell |
| 20:49.03 | nevcairiel | hm |
| 20:49.06 | nevcairiel | thats another idea |
| 20:49.10 | nevcairiel | per-button configuration |
| 20:49.13 | kaiden | and the ability to export button configurations |
| 20:49.22 | kaiden | or export profiles |
| 20:49.59 | kaiden | ie load up hit export it shoves it into a savedvariable (probably need to be a seperate mod) so you could then move that saved variable to another computer |
| 20:50.06 | kaiden | and just tell it to import that profile into it's configuration |
| 20:50.29 | leethal | why does every leveling alliance have a ?? stealthed rogue companion nearby? |
| 20:50.38 | kaiden | i want that mainly because i have 4 or 5 different computers i play on quite frequently as i move around alot |
| 20:50.41 | leethal | never mind.. =P |
| 20:51.03 | kaiden | leethal, so they can commit acts of nastykind on your dead body after they kill you |
| 20:51.04 | kaiden | lol |
| 20:51.10 | Fin | I still can't quite configure the bars to show & hide when I want... I want them to show / hide based on whether the target is friendly, unfriendly, whether I'm in combat or out, whether I need a buff or not, and a combination of the above |
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| 20:52.16 | nevcairiel | friendly/unfriendly or combat is certainly possible |
| 20:52.17 | nevcairiel | buff not |
| 20:52.23 | Fin | would be quite expensive I guess, but it's expensive anyway with other addons installed which sort of cover some of that |
| 20:52.43 | Fin | there's an addon I saw yesterday that seemed to do that |
| 20:52.43 | Fin | sec |
| 20:54.04 | kaiden | Fin, macro it up man :) abuse the system |
| 20:54.08 | kaiden | [harm] [friendly] |
| 20:54.18 | kaiden | i wish you could #show spellbased on [harm] or [friendly] |
| 20:54.31 | Lunessa | You can |
| 20:54.41 | kaiden | can #show take a [harm] call? neat didn't know that |
| 20:54.43 | Lunessa | #show [harm] spell name |
| 20:54.46 | kaiden | iknow you can cast spells based on that |
| 20:54.48 | kaiden | oh very cool |
| 20:54.51 | nevcairiel | with the new RegisterStateDriver i could easily design a system to show/hide on [harm] [friendly] |
| 20:54.55 | nevcairiel | even with that syntax :) |
| 20:54.56 | Lunessa | It's a new feature |
| 20:54.58 | kaiden | but can you have two #show's in the same macro? |
| 20:55.14 | Fin | kaiden: you're right, that is the way to do it... I guess I'm lazy and want an addon that does it nicely for me |
| 20:55.15 | Lunessa | No. Only the first works. |
| 20:55.43 | cogwheel | kaiden: they just added it in 2.1 |
| 20:55.46 | Fin | here's the addon: http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/fileinfo.php?id=7193 |
| 20:55.59 | Fin | May include some or all of the following: |
| 20:55.59 | Fin | enough mana/rage/energy |
| 20:55.59 | Fin | in range, valid target |
| 20:55.59 | Fin | not on cooldown (including GCD) |
| 20:55.59 | Fin | de/buff not already up (includes hots for friendly target and dots for harmful target) |
| 20:56.03 | Fin | (etc) |
| 20:56.15 | cogwheel | but if your macro is simply something like /cast [help] spell; other spell then just a plain #show will automatically use the right one |
| 20:56.28 | Fin | (apologies for the spam) |
| 20:56.46 | kaiden | Fin, enough mana/rage/energy << lie |
| 20:57.00 | kaiden | it cannot use logic to see how much mana/rage/energy you have and show based on that |
| 20:57.03 | kaiden | that was removed long ago |
| 20:57.19 | kaiden | cogwheel, oh nifty that's what i was talking about! :) |
| 20:57.20 | |Jelly| | Can't it change the alpha though? |
| 20:57.21 | kaiden | that rocks |
| 20:57.33 | kaiden | |Jelly|, only for incombat / nocombat |
| 20:57.52 | |Jelly| | ...which i suppose would be pointless anyhow considering the button would be there, clickable, always anyhow. |
| 20:58.04 | Fin | three cheers to the author of the AlphaBlending addon for bringing the fading option to general awareness :) |
| 20:58.13 | Fin | |Jelly|: infinibar figured out a way around that |
| 20:59.23 | Fin | how *does* Inifinibar manage to fade out / in bars in combat based on whether you have something targetted or not? |
| 20:59.27 | Fin | -i |
| 20:59.48 | kaiden | you remember back in the cartoon days whenever the main character would cringe and a single lone hair would spring up on their head |
| 20:59.56 | kaiden | that's what i do whenever i use infinibar on my druid |
| 21:00.12 | Fin | eh? |
| 21:00.36 | kaiden | it has this horrible little bug that if you go cat form and stealth and then switch out of cat form |
| 21:00.39 | kaiden | it moves you back to the catform bar |
| 21:00.46 | kaiden | because it doesn't traverse the secure bars correctly |
| 21:01.29 | kaiden | simply put it goes cat form bar -> stealth bar -> cat form bar instead of cat form bar -> stealth bar -> humanoid bar |
| 21:02.20 | Lunessa | Cogwheel has completely replace Neuro's guide and my name is lost form the stickies... Woe, Doom, Death and Agony on my brief fame! |
| 21:02.34 | cogwheel | You know that was my plan all along, right? |
| 21:02.51 | |Jelly| | Trixy gnomeses |
| 21:02.58 | Lunessa | Curses, Foiled AGAIN! |
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| 21:09.30 | Arog | Hey, can you guys recommend a good casting bar adon |
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| 21:09.31 | Arog | *addon |
| 21:09.55 | Fin | Quartz, eCB, oCB |
| 21:10.10 | |Jelly| | eCB = love |
| 21:10.19 | Arog | is that on the ace website |
| 21:10.34 | leethal | I love that cast bar with lag meter |
| 21:10.37 | leethal | ah, Quartz, yes |
| 21:10.56 | kaiden | there can be only 1.. |
| 21:10.58 | kaiden | quartz is the one |
| 21:10.59 | kaiden | :P |
| 21:11.08 | Lunessa | I just started playing with Quartz - it's slick. Not sure I need ALL of it, but... slick. |
| 21:11.11 | leethal | I wish the cast bars in PitBull had it |
| 21:11.24 | leethal | it's seriously uber useful that latency indicator |
| 21:12.15 | Fin | hmm |
| 21:12.20 | Lunessa | Yeah, although to be honest, the Global Cooldown module had me a bit confused at first. |
| 21:12.38 | leethal | heh, yeah, I disabled everything that wasn't the cast bar |
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| 21:12.59 | Shirik|AFK | :( |
| 21:13.05 | Lunessa | I'm still not sure how I feel about the buff timer thing. |
| 21:13.05 | Shirik|AFK | barnes and noble didn't have clad|afk's book |
| 21:13.16 | Shirik|AFK | I had to make them order it >.> |
| 21:13.19 | Lunessa | Boo, hiss! |
| 21:13.31 | |Jelly| | They didn't? Damn... |
| 21:13.38 | leethal | link to clad|afk's book plox :O |
| 21:13.39 | Shirik | they could order it though |
| 21:13.48 | |Jelly| | http://www.wowinterface.com/forums/showthread.php?t=10302 |
| 21:13.49 | Lunessa | I'll go to Borders tonight and see if they have it. |
| 21:13.57 | Shirik | I imagine it's not widely saught after |
| 21:14.06 | Shirik | I mean, at the very best it's limited to only the WoW environment |
| 21:14.09 | Shirik | and those curious about it |
| 21:14.20 | Shirik | a bookstore has to selectively choose what they have |
| 21:14.31 | Shirik | they didn't even have a book about Lua in general much less clad|afk's boo |
| 21:14.33 | Shirik | book* |
| 21:14.45 | Shirik | (I actually looked for PiL while I was there) |
| 21:15.12 | Lunessa | Bookstores will begin to carry a title if enough requests for it come in. |
| 21:15.18 | Shirik | yup |
| 21:15.19 | Lunessa | But, yeah, you're right. |
| 21:15.32 | Shirik | clad's book plox: http://www.amazon.com/Hacking-Warcraft-ExtremeTech-Daniel-Gilbert/dp/0470110023/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1/002-9878952-3315256?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1180818892&sr=8-1 |
| 21:15.41 | leethal | Shirik: \o/ |
| 21:15.45 | nevcairiel | i actually orderd a copy of PiL a few weeks ago. |
| 21:22.49 | Lunessa | Entertain me! I still have 45 minutes to go before I can leave the office. |
| 21:23.58 | Shirik | solve this |
| 21:24.26 | Shirik | d/dx(3x^(3e+7x^integral_x(4^ex))) |
| 21:24.31 | Shirik | have fun |
| 21:24.38 | |Jelly| | *head assplode* |
| 21:24.42 | cogwheel | Lunessa: this sentence false. |
| 21:25.33 | Lunessa | @Shirik - Evil. That level of math pwns me. @Cog Logical fallacies are still fallacies. |
| 21:26.01 | ckknight | cogwheel: ur mom's false |
| 21:26.09 | ckknight | burn! |
| 21:26.39 | Lunessa | Hey, Mr. You want meet nice girl? My sister very nice to you. $5. |
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| 21:28.01 | zenzelezz | "Taurpedo"... tauren druid |
| 21:28.30 | leethal | hah! evil clad, had to include goldmaking tips in the book |
| 21:28.53 | Lunessa | I wanted to make a Tauren shaman named 'Mooadib' |
| 21:29.17 | zenzelezz | you'd feel right at home in the Bone Wastes then |
| 21:29.45 | Lunessa | I'd have to accost mages and 'take their water.' |
| 21:34.10 | Mikk | haha |
| 21:34.30 | kaiden | i wonder how quickly your name would be changed if you made a Tauren Shaman or Druid named Moohamed |
| 21:34.31 | Shirik | druids: /cast Pounce or /cast Pounce (Cat)() ? |
| 21:35.25 | kaiden | Shirik, /cast Pounce |
| 21:35.31 | Shirik | thank you |
| 21:35.34 | kaiden | however, it would be /cast Mangle (Cat)() |
| 21:35.43 | Shirik | yar mangle I got right |
| 21:35.54 | Shirik | trying to help a friend with a macro for some reason it's not doing anything :( |
| 21:36.19 | kaiden | show the whole macro |
| 21:36.22 | Lunessa | Have him shift+click it from the Spellbook. |
| 21:36.24 | kaiden | well pastey it |
| 21:36.27 | Shirik | I know the macro's right he's being stupid :P |
| 21:36.36 | kaiden | stupid friends deserve love too |
| 21:36.39 | kaiden | and i deserve pie |
| 21:37.06 | Shirik | it's /cast [stealth] Pounce /castsequence [nostealth] reset=target/combat Faerie Fire (Feral)(), Mangle (Cat)(), Shred, Shred |
| 21:37.13 | |Jelly| | I still want waffles. |
| 21:38.02 | Lunessa | Looks right to me. |
| 21:38.09 | Shirik | he's a moron -_- |
| 21:38.12 | Shirik | he used {} instead of [] |
| 21:38.21 | Lunessa | haha |
| 21:40.02 | Shirik | and he spelled stealth wrong |
| 21:40.50 | Lunessa | To the dungeon with him. Stretch him on the rack! |
| 21:42.30 | kaiden | oooh that reminds me, has anyone seen this DungeonCrawler thing |
| 21:42.33 | leethal | hi im a rouge |
| 21:43.05 | kaiden | it peaked my interest because back in the day i fervently aided whenever i could snes9x and zsnes which are SNES emulators so i'm familiar with Mode7 |
| 21:43.20 | kaiden | or at least at one point in my life i was :P |
| 21:45.09 | Lunessa | That's the 3-D map thing? It reminded me of playing Descent. |
| 21:45.11 | Shirik | wtf happened to neuro's guide again |
| 21:45.15 | Shirik | I'm going to shoot one of the mods |
| 21:45.40 | Lunessa | Unstickied - Cog wrote a new one. It's faster, stronger, more fun at parties. |
| 21:45.46 | Shirik | and doesn't have what I need |
| 21:45.48 | Shirik | and neuro's does |
| 21:45.58 | cogwheel | Shirik: what do you need? |
| 21:46.07 | Shirik | the absolute syntax for /castsequence |
| 21:46.17 | cogwheel | Macro Intro & FAQ - READ 1ST! |
| 21:46.31 | Shirik | I am missing the absolute syntax |
| 21:46.38 | Shirik | I did a ctrl+f for castsequence and found every occurance |
| 21:47.13 | Atriace | Ok.... it's not me. I'm getting an error that's not going away. I've started anew |
| 21:47.16 | Shirik | I am looking for something that looks like /castsequence [modifiers] reset=target/combat/shift/n spell, spell, ...; [modifiers] reset=target/combat/shift/n spell, spell, ...; ... |
| 21:47.16 | cogwheel | What exactly are you looking for? |
| 21:47.28 | Shirik | that's basically what he had written |
| 21:47.29 | cogwheel | that's not unique to castsequence |
| 21:47.40 | Shirik | no, but it /is/ what I'm looking for |
| 21:47.44 | Atriace | http://www.axisc.net/bug.jpg |
| 21:47.50 | Shirik | specifically I'm looking for the ordering of modifiers and reset |
| 21:48.19 | cogwheel | the syntax for castsequence is /castsequence [reset=n/target/combat/shift/alt/ctrl] Spell [, Spell[, Spell[...]]] |
| 21:48.21 | Shirik | which, btw, you don't mention :P |
| 21:48.27 | cogwheel | Macro option syntax is completely different |
| 21:48.30 | Shirik | iirc reset is not in brackets? |
| 21:48.34 | cogwheel | s/different/separate |
| 21:48.45 | Shirik | oh I see you mean option |
| 21:48.45 | Shirik | but I need both |
| 21:48.47 | cogwheel | it isn't. I was signifying that it's optional |
| 21:49.08 | cogwheel | Shirik: look at the chart here: http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=108381822&postId=1080922362&sid=1#1 |
| 21:49.39 | cogwheel | there's nothing special about /castsequence compared to any other slash command |
| 21:49.58 | cogwheel | all of the reset=blah Spell 1, Spell 2, ... is simply the parameters to /castsequence |
| 21:50.07 | Shirik | right, so what I said was right |
| 21:50.57 | Shirik | this isn't going past faerie fire: /castsequence [nostealth] reset=target/combat Faerie Fire (Feral)(), Mangle (Cat)(Rank 3), Shred(Rank 7), Shred(Rank 7) |
| 21:51.05 | cogwheel | But that's a side-effect of the syntax of /castsequence and the use of macro options... It's not something unique to /castsequence that the modifiers go before the reset & spell list... |
| 21:52.32 | Shirik | any ideas? |
| 21:53.36 | cogwheel | /castsequence chokes on certain types of spells... might just be a bug |
| 21:53.57 | Lunessa | It hangs at Faerie Fire you say? I can't recall - does that have ranks? |
| 21:54.04 | Shirik | it does |
| 21:54.14 | Shirik | and it casts it fine |
| 21:54.20 | Lunessa | Have her shift+click the spell from the book to put it in. |
| 21:54.25 | Shirik | ya just told him to |
| 21:54.29 | Lunessa | And see if it works. |
| 21:54.37 | Shirik | also had him remove the [nostealth] |
| 21:55.00 | Lunessa | Yeah, you don't need that usually. |
| 21:55.07 | Shirik | eh, it would get rid of error spam |
| 21:55.14 | Shirik | that's the only reason it's there |
| 21:55.42 | leethal | the macro syntax confuse me.. E.g. /petattakc [nomodifier:shift]. Pretty much the opposite of any programing language available, which usually is "statement - code to execute". Here it's "code to execute - statement" |
| 21:55.53 | leethal | petattack* |
| 21:56.57 | Shirik | had him remove [nostealth] reset=target/combat and shift-clicked all spells |
| 21:57.01 | Shirik | and it still hands on faerie fire -_- |
| 21:57.07 | Shirik | s/nds/ngs/ |
| 21:57.15 | cogwheel | bug then... |
| 21:57.48 | Shirik | for now I'm chalking it up to him not typing it correctly until I can confirm it |
| 21:59.22 | cogwheel | Shirik: next time I update the macro options guide I'll add reset conditions to the /castsequence example :P |
| 21:59.32 | Shirik | eh, it's probably not importan... |
| 21:59.34 | Shirik | bah fine |
| 22:06.29 | Lunessa | And... on that note, I'm allowed to close the shop and go home. Enjoy gents. |
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| 22:12.01 | Arog | hi |
| 22:12.04 | Arog | quick problem |
| 22:12.14 | Arog | with AGUF, when I try to hide my target's target, it doesn't go away |
| 22:14.53 | leethal | did you try PitBull? |
| 22:15.24 | foxlit | Woah |
| 22:15.53 | foxlit | Lovely solution that "Hi, I'm having a problem with addon X." "Have you tried using addon Y?" :P |
| 22:16.10 | leethal | yep |
| 22:17.59 | leethal | it worked for me =P |
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| 22:18.50 | Arog | whats PitBull |
| 22:18.53 | kaiden | It works for Pitbull Abusers too |
| 22:19.01 | |Jelly| | Unit Frames mod by Ace |
| 22:19.06 | leethal | PitBull is another unit frame mod |
| 22:19.09 | Arog | better than AG? |
| 22:19.11 | kaiden | yes |
| 22:19.13 | leethal | well, imo it is |
| 22:19.27 | nevcairiel | depends what you need |
| 22:19.29 | leethal | (it is, but I'm saying imo in case the AGUF author is around *ahem*) |
| 22:19.33 | Shirik | imho use blizz frames :P |
| 22:19.35 | leethal | PitBull has more features |
| 22:19.41 | Shirik | It takes a lot for me to use a default UI |
| 22:19.42 | Shirik | and I do |
| 22:19.43 | nevcairiel | if you are happy with the features agUF offers, stick to it |
| 22:20.40 | |Jelly| | default = yuk! |
| 22:20.59 | kaiden | i'd quit before i used default again |
| 22:21.33 | leethal | actually the reason I switched to PitBull was because I wanted my targets health/mara bars to be left-right instead of right-left, which AGUF couldn't do |
| 22:21.40 | leethal | I've used AGUF for ages before that |
| 22:21.58 | kaiden | i switched to it from AGUF because ckknight and team works on it (can't remember who all sorry!) |
| 22:22.10 | |Jelly| | I went from ag_uf > DUF > pitbull |
| 22:22.34 | ckknight | kaiden: there's quite a few authors who add little hacks |
| 22:22.39 | ckknight | I made PitBull specifically hackable. |
| 22:22.45 | ckknight | so others could work on it, not just me |
| 22:22.50 | ckknight | that's why development has been so fast |
| 22:23.06 | kaiden | ckknight, just like all of your mods really |
| 22:24.12 | kaiden | my jaw drops everytime i still hear of people using titanpanel after fubar came out |
| 22:24.12 | |Jelly| | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:24.12 | leethal | hehe |
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| 22:25.35 | ckknight | FuBar was fubar'd for a while |
| 22:25.52 | ckknight | but really, FuBar 2.0 stabilized it to quite a good degree |
| 22:26.08 | ckknight | it's quite nice now |
| 22:26.17 | kaiden | there's still a few modules i'm surprised dont exist yet, a stats module that's customizable |
| 22:26.19 | ckknight | in that sense that it's usable, it does what it's supposed to do |
| 22:26.26 | kaiden | though i think i may have seen it in screenshots so it very well could |
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| 23:09.16 | zenzelezz | http://www.yesbutnobutyes.com/archives/2007/03/top_15_unintent.html |
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| 23:32.29 | Loriel | Sup. Is there any addon that sums up bonuses on items and lists the resulting bonuses on actual statistic, taking into account talents and other modifiers? Like something that will take an item's armour, multiply it by 1.1 for Thick Hide, then 5 for Bear form, then add two times the agility to it before displaying? |
| 23:33.20 | Loriel | RatingBuster seems to stop vaguely short of half of that but I would be surprised if no one actually put the pieces together |
| 23:34.41 | |Jelly| | Have you looked at TheoryCraft? |
| 23:37.30 | |Jelly| | nevermind ... apparently that's just spells. nope...i don't know of a mod |
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