| 00:00.14 | Thrae | cladhaire: Do you think we should ask the forum gods to add popular IRC channels to the UI & Macros stickies? |
| 00:00.27 | cladhaire | i think they're somewhere |
| 00:00.31 | Thrae | Or would that totally destroy listed channels? |
| 00:00.41 | Lunessa | Or channel regulars? |
| 00:01.11 | Cairenn | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=11381244&sid=1 post #6 |
| 00:01.57 | Cairenn | http://www.wowwiki.com/UI_FAQ |
| 00:01.59 | Thrae | Cairenn: No one reads past the first post in stuckies, duh! Unless it's a blue post. |
| 00:02.31 | Thrae | Cairenn: Speaking of which, why aren't you green? |
| 00:02.43 | Cairenn | because Iriel is |
| 00:03.16 | Thrae | You and Iriel have different functions and jobs, though. |
| 00:03.16 | Shirik | because Cairenn doesn't know jack about the UI :P |
| 00:03.19 | Shirik | ^^; |
| 00:03.23 | Shirik | no offense Cairenn!! |
| 00:03.23 | Thrae | Cairenn helps all the time! |
| 00:03.27 | cladhaire | that's not true at all |
| 00:03.32 | Lunessa | But she does make a heck of a contributor. |
| 00:03.35 | Shirik | it was more of a joke than anything >.> |
| 00:03.35 | *** kick/#wowi-lounge [Shirik!n=cladhair@WoWUIDev/WoWI/Featured/Dongle/cladhaire] by cladhaire ( bastage) |
| 00:03.36 | *** join/#wowi-lounge Shirik (n=nospam@mckay32-75.resnet.db.erau.edu) |
| 00:03.38 | Shirik | T_T |
| 00:03.41 | Shirik | She contributes a ton though |
| 00:03.43 | cladhaire | autojoin pwns me |
| 00:03.49 | Shirik | autojoin > you |
| 00:03.50 | Lunessa | PWND |
| 00:03.52 | hermock | Does anyone use gaim for IRC ? (sorry for being noob) |
| 00:03.59 | cladhaire | Cairenn knows more than she (or you) would imagine |
| 00:04.05 | cladhaire | hermock: we have a few people here who use it |
| 00:04.12 | Shirik | But yeah Cairenn = awesomeness |
| 00:04.19 | Cairenn | Thrae: aye, I know, but he (slouken) could only have one, so he picked Iriel, and I couldn't agree more with his decision |
| 00:04.21 | Shirik | she just doesn't know Lua :( |
| 00:04.29 | Shirik | <3 Cairenn |
| 00:04.34 | cladhaire | you barely know lua you nub |
| 00:04.38 | Shirik | it's true :( |
| 00:04.41 | foxlit | Wee, it works |
| 00:04.46 | hermock | cladhaire : How do I log to the forum ? Do I need a password ? |
| 00:04.53 | Lunessa | Holy crap... I barely know how to read then! |
| 00:04.55 | cladhaire | hermock: which forum? |
| 00:05.10 | foxlit | Scheduler now tries to maintain a desired framerate :P |
| 00:05.15 | hermock | sorry not the forum the chatroom #wowi-lounge |
| 00:05.18 | Cairenn | hermock: you have Gaim, yes? |
| 00:05.23 | Thrae | Cairenn: Only one? But he's the great slouken! Tell him to recode the forums/bosses to allow you. |
| 00:05.30 | hermock | yes I have gaim |
| 00:05.32 | Mikk | hermock: err.. you're in it? |
| 00:06.04 | hermock | I am in it threw a Java client on a site .... I would rather try on my gaim client |
| 00:06.21 | Karrion | hermock: I'm using pidgin (the new gaim) |
| 00:06.25 | Cairenn | hermock: go to "Accounts" > "Add" > "IRC: |
| 00:06.28 | Thrae | hermock: Lots of people use the Gaim IRC client, it works fine. irc.freenode.net, /join #wowi-lounge |
| 00:06.39 | wobin | I <3 Pidgin |
| 00:06.45 | wobin | if only for the name and icon |
| 00:07.05 | Cairenn | hermock: screen name whatever you want (your user name), server: irc.freenode.net |
| 00:07.23 | hermock | done .... any password ? |
| 00:07.29 | Cairenn | once you have that set up, go to your buddy list and "Add Chat" then #wowi-lounge |
| 00:08.07 | Cairenn | once you register your username, you can put in your password there if you want, so it'll auto-identify |
| 00:08.41 | Cairenn | and yes, get the updated version of Gaim, now called Pidgin: http://pidgin.im/ |
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| 00:09.26 | t1n0m3n | anyone here run wow on linux? |
| 00:09.29 | Shirik | I have |
| 00:09.35 | zenzelezz | if a frame has enableMouse="false", can a sub-frame still have it enabled (and of course work)? |
| 00:09.37 | Shirik | I don't on a regular basis, but I do from time to time |
| 00:09.49 | t1n0m3n | did you have problems getting the ALT button to register? |
| 00:09.58 | Shirik | nope |
| 00:10.08 | Shirik | what distro are you running on? |
| 00:10.11 | Shirik | (and through what?) |
| 00:10.22 | t1n0m3n | hmm, I am running it on Kubuntu 7.04 and wine |
| 00:10.54 | Shirik | is that feisty? |
| 00:11.04 | t1n0m3n | seems like there whould be a wine config file somewhere that I could tweak, but I cant seem to find it |
| 00:11.14 | t1n0m3n | yeah Feisty Fawn |
| 00:11.38 | Shirik | Seriously, on ubuntu edgy all I did was .winecfg and wine WoW.exe -opengl -console and everything was ok |
| 00:11.47 | t1n0m3n | can't seem to find the right search terms on google either |
| 00:12.18 | Cairenn | hmmm, logging for a few, digging up the link reminded me that I need to update it myself |
| 00:12.19 | t1n0m3n | k, I will see if .winecfg returns anything in google |
| 00:14.26 | wobin | I'm running WoW on linux |
| 00:14.43 | wobin | With no changes etc |
| 00:14.48 | wobin | and it runs fine |
| 00:15.24 | foxlit | ./run WorldFrame:Hide(); |
| 00:15.28 | foxlit | Any adverse effects? |
| 00:15.42 | Shirik | the world frame gets hidden? |
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| 00:16.00 | foxlit | Suppose I wanted to save a few rendering cycles :P |
| 00:16.06 | foxlit | Or would that not do the trick? |
| 00:16.14 | Shirik | you would save something |
| 00:16.21 | Shirik | at the very least, many OnUpdates will no longer be called |
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| 00:17.03 | hermoc1 | hello |
| 00:17.09 | Shirik | hi |
| 00:17.14 | |Jelly| | hi |
| 00:17.20 | foxlit | Not a lot of things are parented to worldframe, though |
| 00:17.26 | Shirik | true |
| 00:17.30 | foxlit | UIParent seems to be an entirely separate thing |
| 00:17.49 | hermoc1 | I am back but in using pigin |
| 00:17.58 | Shirik | "back" would imply you left |
| 00:18.01 | Shirik | but you never did |
| 00:18.07 | Shirik | ;) |
| 00:18.10 | hermock | exit |
| 00:18.13 | hermock | lol |
| 00:18.15 | Shirik | 20:16:35 » Join: hermoc1 ‹n=Mathieu@217.237.97-84.rev.gaoland.net› ‹clones: hermock, hermoc1› |
| 00:18.18 | Shirik | try /quit |
| 00:18.20 | Shirik | or /exit |
| 00:18.54 | Shirik | there you go :) |
| 00:19.35 | hermoc1 | << blush ..... I feel nude as a worm |
| 00:20.44 | hermoc1 | ok fals and guys ..... I am french it is 2:20 and I work tomorow |
| 00:20.52 | hermoc1 | gals not fals |
| 00:20.53 | Shirik | a bientot :) |
| 00:21.11 | [dRaCo] | uh, shirik speaks french ;) |
| 00:21.18 | hermoc1 | at least I have my first step for writting an add on : the support |
| 00:21.24 | Cairenn | :) |
| 00:21.31 | hermoc1 | bonne nuit |
| 00:21.57 | zenzelezz | you're missing one thing |
| 00:21.59 | Tem | salut |
| 00:22.00 | Cairenn | salut |
| 00:22.00 | zenzelezz | coders don't sleep |
| 00:22.09 | Cairenn | Tem: jinx |
| 00:22.10 | foxlit | sleep is for casuals! |
| 00:22.11 | hermoc1 | btw I have installed pidgin I like it ..... it looks nicer than gaim |
| 00:22.20 | zenzelezz | aye |
| 00:22.41 | [dRaCo] | the bad thing about the french: you can't bash them for plenking :/ |
| 00:22.48 | hermoc1 | << Not on the bleeding edge apparently |
| 00:22.50 | zenzelezz | plenking? |
| 00:22.50 | Cairenn | hermoc1: if you don't already have it, I highly recommend guifications as well: http://plugins.guifications.org/trac/wiki/Guifications |
| 00:23.33 | [dRaCo] | using space between the last word of the sentence and the punctuation sign |
| 00:23.35 | foxlit | Yay |
| 00:23.42 | [dRaCo] | like "hi !" |
| 00:23.48 | foxlit | "Crypto appears to work." |
| 00:23.52 | Shirik | grats!! |
| 00:24.29 | [dRaCo] | prolly a more or less "german" word |
| 00:24.35 | [dRaCo] | it's on wikipedia, though |
| 00:24.36 | hermoc1 | Thanks for the tips cairenn |
| 00:24.42 | Cairenn | welcome |
| 00:25.08 | hermoc1 | see you guys .... I won't say good night hence..... good code |
| 00:25.41 | [dRaCo] | anyway, enough talking to myself, I'm off, too. |
| 00:25.43 | [dRaCo] | later |
| 00:26.47 | foxlit | Took 829s of coroutine time to sign with a 2048 bit key as well. |
| 00:27.23 | foxlit | 6.32 to verify |
| 00:28.15 | t1n0m3n | got it, cool, I remapped my alt key for inner window event to the meta key instead |
| 00:28.18 | VoiDRaider | Guys, I'm thinking on building on addon that print messages to the chat when you CC a mob/player along with customization for the messages, events (so you can decide when you want the message to appear), however I wonder if there such an addon exist ? |
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| 00:31.02 | t1n0m3n | hmm, I had an addon like that at one time, but I can't remember what it was |
| 00:31.20 | zenzelezz | VoiDRaider: "this is my addon. There are many like it, but this one is mine." |
| 00:31.21 | cladhaire | foxlit: nice, what algo? |
| 00:31.28 | foxlit | SHA256 and RSA |
| 00:31.28 | zenzelezz | your own > others, always :-p |
| 00:31.30 | Shirik | RSA |
| 00:31.39 | t1n0m3n | I used it to tell the party that I was sheeping a mob |
| 00:31.40 | VoiDRaider | :P |
| 00:31.43 | Shirik | I'm really excited |
| 00:31.48 | cladhaire | foxlit: in-game lua implementation? |
| 00:31.51 | Shirik | yup |
| 00:32.07 | foxlit | cladhaire: yes. |
| 00:32.15 | cladhaire | nice |
| 00:32.16 | Shirik | it only took him like a month to work out the math though :P |
| 00:32.17 | hermock | this is it I leave the chatroom good night |
| 00:32.27 | foxlit | Technically, I was done a week ago :P |
| 00:32.27 | VoiDRaider | Well I guess I'll do it :) |
| 00:32.29 | Shirik | I tried to help but my mind got pissed off and started hurting |
| 00:32.38 | *** part/#wowi-lounge hermock (n=Mathieu@217.237.97-84.rev.gaoland.net) |
| 00:32.42 | foxlit | But then I decided to namespace a few things |
| 00:34.29 | t1n0m3n | VoiDRaider: like this addon? http://ui.worldofwar.net/ui.php?id=1783 |
| 00:34.29 | VoiDRaider | lol no |
| 00:34.29 | foxlit | In short, the performance critical step is 2048 bit multiplication |
| 00:34.30 | foxlit | 2048 bit * 2048 bit % 2048 bit, to be exact :) |
| 00:34.30 | cladhaire | =) |
| 00:34.48 | foxlit | Could probably win a few seconds by impleneting a slightly different bignum multiplication approch |
| 00:34.57 | foxlit | *implementing |
| 00:36.54 | foxlit | But it's all rather sad when you compare it to openssl performance :( |
| 00:37.05 | cladhaire | heheh |
| 00:37.13 | zenzelezz | OpenSSL isn't written in WoW-lua |
| 00:38.25 | foxlit | True, but the difference is obscene! |
| 00:38.41 | Mikk | I'd be surprised if it wasn't |
| 00:39.04 | Mikk | Are you using all the hacky math that OpenSSL uses though? |
| 00:39.11 | foxlit | No |
| 00:39.11 | Mikk | Implementing the raw math from theory is .. erm .. slow |
| 00:39.28 | Mikk | There's so many mathematical shortcuts that you can actually use |
| 00:39.44 | Mikk | Don't ask me to quote the algo names from memory tho, I'll fail miserably :-P |
| 00:40.14 | foxlit | There are a few basic optimizations, mostly related to exponentiation |
| 00:40.47 | Mikk | Of course, first of all, you should just go with 768 bit math |
| 00:40.51 | Mikk | It's not as if we're protecting state secrets? =) |
| 00:41.11 | foxlit | angry people with their epixx destroyed would disagree :) |
| 00:41.13 | Shirik | we are when you're considering distributing patches :P |
| 00:41.17 | Mikk | oh |
| 00:41.24 | Mikk | yeah you want more than 768 then :S |
| 00:41.53 | Mikk | 1024? |
| 00:42.10 | Shirik | if he's already got it working with 2048 I say we keep it at that ^^ |
| 00:42.13 | zenzelezz | 65536 |
| 00:42.19 | Shirik | 65536 bit? |
| 00:42.24 | zenzelezz | minimum |
| 00:43.04 | Lunessa | Exporting encryption of of the US can get ... sticky. Apparently the law considers encryption tech to be the same as munitions. |
| 00:43.16 | Mikk | Same as all european countries |
| 00:43.16 | Lunessa | *out |
| 00:43.34 | zenzelezz | all European countries do the same? |
| 00:43.34 | Shirik | we're not talking about encryption here |
| 00:43.36 | Shirik | just signatures |
| 00:43.38 | zenzelezz | I wasn't aware of that |
| 00:43.50 | foxlit | Well, Shirik, it's one step away |
| 00:43.54 | Shirik | it is |
| 00:43.59 | Shirik | technically it's just an encrypted number |
| 00:44.03 | Mikk | Unfortunately, public key cryptography is still cryptography |
| 00:44.22 | Lunessa | When I was working on distributing browser code in a patching tool, company lawyers were all over me to make sure I didn't send 128-bit encryption to anyone outside the USA. |
| 00:44.39 | foxlit | Might as well encrypt a 256-bit symmetric key rather than a sha256 hash |
| 00:44.40 | Shirik | so how do websites deal with it then? |
| 00:44.45 | Karrion | didn't the US relax that rule somewhat lately? |
| 00:44.49 | Kaydeethree | http://www.bis.doc.gov/ |
| 00:44.53 | cladhaire | I believe so, yes. |
| 00:45.18 | Lunessa | Probably. I'm not current - but I know the banking industry lobied hard for a change. |
| 00:45.28 | Mikk | As far as the EU goes, afaik it's still munitions |
| 00:45.40 | Karrion | http://www.bis.doc.gov/encryption/default.htm |
| 00:45.42 | Mikk | But there's exceptions as to which countries you can send it to without asking for permissions |
| 00:45.59 | Lunessa | So... if you're going to distribute it, be careful. :) |
| 00:46.29 | Shirik | ok well what you should do then |
| 00:46.32 | Shirik | disable it by default |
| 00:46.42 | cladhaire | you can't distribute the source even Shirik |
| 00:46.42 | Shirik | enable receiving these transmissions, but when doing that |
| 00:46.45 | cladhaire | that's the problem. |
| 00:46.49 | Shirik | have the user asser.... |
| 00:46.55 | Shirik | ok |
| 00:46.56 | cladhaire | That's why GPG was sent in print, then OCR'd. |
| 00:47.00 | cladhaire | or some scheme was |
| 00:47.03 | cladhaire | I don't recall which |
| 00:47.20 | Shirik | ok then I'll make a module, and only allow it to be downloaded after the user has confirmed that they're from the US ? |
| 00:47.30 | cladhaire | that is how you get around it, yes. |
| 00:47.36 | cladhaire | typically |
| 00:47.50 | foxlit | Hah, I don't even know whose laws would apply. |
| 00:48.06 | cladhaire | who wrote it? |
| 00:48.11 | cladhaire | i.e. what countries residents |
| 00:48.14 | Karrion | better yet, just host on a non-us server |
| 00:48.23 | Lunessa | Safest to assume that the laws for the country of the author's residence apply. |
| 00:48.32 | cladhaire | Karrion: You'd have to get it to that country |
| 00:48.34 | cladhaire | which woudl be an export. |
| 00:48.34 | cladhaire | =) |
| 00:48.36 | Shirik | foxlit wrote it, no? |
| 00:48.50 | foxlit | Hey, I copied wikipedia |
| 00:48.50 | cladhaire | yes, which country? |
| 00:48.53 | cladhaire | lol |
| 00:48.55 | Shirik | .dk |
| 00:48.56 | Shirik | what's that? |
| 00:49.02 | foxlit | That's denmark |
| 00:49.04 | cladhaire | denmark? |
| 00:49.04 | Kaydeethree | denmark |
| 00:49.07 | Karrion | .dk? denmark I think |
| 00:49.09 | cladhaire | then his laws apply |
| 00:49.13 | Karrion | oh I'm way too slow |
| 00:49.58 | Lunessa | So all I'm saying is... make sure your fun project doesn't land you in the hoosegow. |
| 00:50.46 | Karrion | hmm, it only deals with digital signatures? |
| 00:50.46 | KarlThePagan | use crypto libraries, and leave it up to the user to download them ;) |
| 00:50.54 | KarlThePagan | bouncycastle ftw |
| 00:51.34 | cladhaire | KarlThePagan: no libs in wow |
| 00:51.46 | KarlThePagan | cladhaire, ouch, point taken |
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| 00:51.57 | VoiDRaider | Any GUI lib that is available to ease my Interface development that use no XML objects and instead uses pure LUA to build up the controls and such, like handling a ListBox etc ? |
| 00:52.10 | Karrion | " Encryption review or notification is NOT required... for commodities and software that:... Employ limited forms of cryptography, such as authentication, copy protection, and anti-virus protection" |
| 00:52.11 | Mikk | VoiDRaider: Yes, plain old API |
| 00:52.18 | Mikk | VoiDRaider: CreateFrame() |
| 00:52.32 | Karrion | and they appear to count digital signatures as "authentication" |
| 00:52.55 | wobin | generally speaking, the normal API is simple enough that writing a library for it would make it more complex =) |
| 00:52.57 | Shirik | thanks Karrion :) |
| 00:53.18 | Karrion | IANAL and all that though ;-p |
| 00:53.30 | Shirik | yeah yeah I'll ask my dad tomorrow probably :P |
| 00:53.54 | Shirik | though he deals with patents |
| 00:53.58 | Shirik | but good enough for me |
| 00:55.44 | cladhaire | IDK my BFF Jill? |
| 00:55.56 | Shirik | lol |
| 00:56.11 | Shirik | TISNF! |
| 00:56.26 | cladhaire | Me paying this bill, that's what's SNF |
| 00:56.55 | cladhaire | tho, OMG INBD is by far my favorite line |
| 00:57.02 | Shirik | hehe |
| 00:57.29 | Lunessa | I shudder to think that somewhere, some parent is having exactly that conversation.... |
| 00:57.38 | cladhaire | =) |
| 00:58.43 | Lunessa | IDK my rents PTB |
| 00:59.53 | cladhaire | i just said "OMG IJK DHAC" in guild chat |
| 00:59.57 | cladhaire | the response "NBD" |
| 01:00.41 | Lunessa | *dies a little* |
| 01:00.53 | cladhaire | i'm just shocked she figured it out =) |
| 01:01.08 | Shirik | huh? |
| 01:01.14 | Shirik | what's that? |
| 01:01.22 | Shirik | omg I just killeD? |
| 01:01.26 | cladhaire | Oh My God.. I'm Just Kidding, Don't Have a Cow! |
| 01:01.29 | Shirik | oh |
| 01:02.18 | VoiDRaider | Well yeah I'm using my own functions right now that build up the controls dynamically through the code, however I wonder if there's something more generic I can use without me messing with underlying functions, so I can simply call it and render the control with all the information sent, just like the functions I made but you never know it might be faster or better :) |
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| 01:07.11 | cladhaire | For those who haven't seen the commercial: http://youtube.com/watch?v=4nIUcRJX9-o |
| 01:07.40 | Lunessa | Oh no. Someone uploaded it? Make the bad people STOP. |
| 01:07.41 | cogwheel | when I saw that, it totally reminded me of WoW |
| 01:07.50 | cladhaire | hehe |
| 01:13.26 | cogwheel | argh... it's blizzard's fault |
| 01:13.38 | Kaydeethree | it always is |
| 01:13.41 | Lunessa | what? |
| 01:13.50 | cogwheel | "Patch 2.1.0 is now live! Be sure that custom user interface modifications are up to date or disabled." |
| 01:14.11 | Lunessa | oh dat |
| 01:14.17 | Kaydeethree | they've been saying that since... 1.11? 1.12? |
| 01:14.22 | Shirik | like 1.1 :P |
| 01:14.27 | cogwheel | No wonder there's all these people whining about "out of date" addons |
| 01:14.45 | Lunessa | Usually they just say "disable custom interfaces" |
| 01:15.09 | cogwheel | yeah... they've never said "update or disable" before afaik |
| 01:15.51 | Lunessa | Yeah. |
| 01:19.49 | Lunessa | Walking someone through installing a HD over the phone is .... crazy. |
| 01:20.01 | |Jelly| | <PROTECTED> |
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| 01:25.44 | Lunessa | ... /wrist |
| 01:26.21 | cogwheel | walking someone through ______________ is ... crazy imo |
| 01:26.29 | cogwheel | *over the phone |
| 01:26.44 | wobin | cladhaire: That ad reminds me of the rofllol manah manah wow video |
| 01:26.46 | cogwheel | I could NEVER do tech support |
| 01:26.55 | Kaydeethree | you get used to it after a while |
| 01:26.55 | Lunessa | I'm dying here... replacing a SATA drive on a machine I've never seen, with no manuals and all guesswork. KILL ME |
| 01:27.12 | Kaydeethree | reading people's minds is a learned habit |
| 01:27.18 | Kaydeethree | s/habit/skill/ |
| 01:27.21 | cogwheel | it's not like cases come with manuals in the first place... |
| 01:27.37 | Lunessa | Yeah. But still if... she says "thingy" one more time... I'm going to die. |
| 01:27.43 | cogwheel | rofl |
| 01:28.01 | |Jelly| | So I suppose working as a tech at Best Buy wasn't so bad -- "I'm sorry, we don't provide over the phone tech support. If you like, you can bring in your machine and we'll install it for you" |
| 01:28.15 | |Jelly| | *they bring it in* *you attempt to gouge every cent out of them you can* |
| 01:28.23 | Lunessa | I work for a university. But this is a favor for a friend. |
| 01:28.35 | |Jelly| | Favors. *shudder* |
| 01:29.03 | cogwheel | I'm glad my family has more than one computer geek... |
| 01:29.08 | VoiDRaider | lol |
| 01:29.21 | |Jelly| | You're lucky. |
| 01:29.51 | |Jelly| | I was in Michigan on vacation (I live in Texas /wrist) and got calls from family. |
| 01:30.14 | Lunessa | <--- Also in TX |
| 01:30.26 | |Jelly| | Oh man. |
| 01:30.35 | cogwheel | <--- not in Texas |
| 01:30.41 | Lunessa | hah! |
| 01:31.39 | VoiDRaider | << out of the US :P |
| 01:31.39 | cogwheel | pfft! who cares |
| 01:31.39 | cogwheel | :P |
| 01:31.40 | |Jelly| | So does that make me better by proxy? Lunessa being in the same state as me? :P |
| 01:31.40 | cogwheel | I'm in the same state as Iriel & Slouken :P |
| 01:32.09 | |Jelly| | Ouch |
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| 01:32.20 | Lunessa | PWND |
| 01:32.27 | |Jelly| | indeed |
| 01:32.27 | ScytheBlade1 | Ouch indeed... that much forum ego contained in one state? ;) |
| 01:32.34 | |Jelly| | haha |
| 01:32.36 | cogwheel | hehe |
| 01:35.09 | |Jelly| | lol |
| 01:35.13 | Lunessa | It's like a shining beacon of WoW API knowledge contained in one small lamp... |
| 01:35.14 | Cairenn | smart boy |
| 01:35.26 | VoiDRaider | :D |
| 01:35.30 | Lunessa | Oh Canada, Oh Canada! |
| 01:38.15 | Mr_Rabies2 | man, curator is fun |
| 01:38.53 | Garoun|Loupana | once you know how to do him he is :P |
| 01:39.10 | cogwheel | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gicTEKbczxw&mode=related&search= |
| 01:39.41 | Garoun|Loupana | hmm #132 Exception:0xC00000FD (STACK_OVERFLOW) at 001B:0040EA27, isn't that typically a addons related error? |
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| 01:40.07 | cogwheel | crash errors are actually atypically addon problems |
| 01:42.38 | cogwheel | any problems with addons should simply generate a lua error |
| 01:42.38 | cogwheel | save for bugs |
| 01:42.39 | Garoun|Loupana | k, I'm trying to track down my g/fs problem and it's truely a pain in my ass :P to figure out |
| 01:42.39 | Garoun|Loupana | guess it's time to fire up my knoppix disk and run a memtest burn in on her pc |
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| 01:43.19 | Kaydeethree | great way to finally finish off dying ram, that |
| 01:43.31 | wobin | cogwheel: irt that youtube, I can't say I wouldn't do the same =) |
| 01:43.50 | wobin | But Takeshi Kitano rocks |
| 01:43.56 | Garoun|Loupana | yep, Kaydee but I really don't think it's her ram |
| 01:44.17 | Garoun|Loupana | pc was running just fine until the patch before 2.1 went live |
| 01:44.21 | Garoun|Loupana | and then it started crashing |
| 01:45.12 | Kaydeethree | then blame 2.1... I've been hearing lots of bitching and moaning from guildies |
| 01:45.48 | Kaydeethree | most of who run w/o addons |
| 01:46.15 | Garoun|Loupana | that's our only guess, it's the EXACT error every time, but I can't figure out how to specifically reproduce it (isn't that always the problem) |
| 01:46.15 | Lunessa | Actually, there are a couple nasty crashes lurking. |
| 01:46.17 | Garoun|Loupana | yeah, I tend to avoid pointing any fingers at addons |
| 01:46.29 | Lunessa | I had it happen to me yesterday too - but at a different address. |
| 01:46.45 | Garoun|Loupana | the last resort is naturally telling her to go clean for a while to see if it keeps bombing |
| 01:49.24 | Garoun|Loupana | interesting thing is the Stack Trace in the error file has one common message |
| 01:49.24 | |Jelly| | i couldn't do it |
| 01:49.25 | Garoun|Loupana | 0040EA27 WoW.exe <unknown symbol>+0 ( |
| 01:49.25 | Garoun|Loupana | every single error happens with that start of the stack trace |
| 01:49.25 | Garoun|Loupana | the memory addresses are slightly different in the () but that message is consistent |
| 01:49.25 | cogwheel | "<unknown symbol>+0" isn't that the holy hand grenade? |
| 01:49.25 | Garoun|Loupana | ?: |
| 01:49.25 | Garoun|Loupana | er :P |
| 01:49.25 | Lunessa | It's the "debugger doesn't know that reference" |
| 01:49.28 | Garoun|Loupana | and actually the STACK_OVERFLOW message is always the exact same message |
| 01:49.44 | Garoun|Loupana | Exception:0xC00000FD (STACK_OVERFLOW) at 001B:0040EA27 |
| 01:49.57 | Garoun|Loupana | that exact exception every time (checked the last 10 error logs) |
| 01:50.18 | Lunessa | So... Something she's doing right then... is prone to making the bugged call. |
| 01:50.28 | Garoun|Loupana | yeah :P |
| 01:50.47 | Garoun|Loupana | hate tracking down crash bugs |
| 01:50.53 | Lunessa | And she does it often.. since it's 10 crashes. :P |
| 01:51.53 | Shirik | Cairenn, ping |
| 01:51.53 | Cairenn | Shirik: pong |
| 01:51.56 | Osagasu | rgrlglrglrl? |
| 01:51.57 | cladhaire | Shirik: Cairenn: ping |
| 01:52.01 | Garoun|Loupana | oh, it's a lot mroe than 10 ;) that was just my sample size |
| 01:52.17 | Cairenn | cladhaire: ding-a-ling-ding-dong |
| 01:52.28 | cladhaire | :-) |
| 01:52.36 | Osagasu | Crazies. |
| 01:52.38 | cogwheel | Cairenn: Shirik: cladhaire: marco |
| 01:53.14 | Garoun|Loupana | interesting, appears as if it use to happento quite a few people |
| 01:53.16 | Garoun|Loupana | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=51895861&postId=517712750&sid=1#17 |
| 01:53.21 | cogwheel | PM from (Shirik)away: I will never respond to PMs requesting help. If you wish for help, please ask in #wowi-lounge, so that others may benefit from the answer. |
| 01:53.22 | Garoun|Loupana | post fromw ay back on 12/03/2006 |
| 01:53.25 | Shirik | yeah yeah |
| 01:54.21 | cogwheel | i beat you, moon elf lady :P |
| 01:56.04 | Lunessa | You did... so I removed my post. *shakes fist* Curses! Foiled again! |
| 01:58.56 | Lunessa | I'm so bored. You'd think we'd be closed at night during the summer.... but noooooooo |
| 01:59.10 | Shirik | if you want |
| 01:59.13 | Shirik | I can call you with stupid questions |
| 01:59.28 | Lunessa | Change it up some. |
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| 01:59.34 | Lunessa | Call me with some SMART questions. |
| 01:59.42 | Shirik | or I can ask you some of the questions I do during guild interviews |
| 01:59.54 | Shirik | What is the integral of 2x^2 + sin(3x), with respect to x? |
| 02:00.05 | Shirik | what is the benefit of hooksecurefunc() over a typical Lua style function hook? |
| 02:00.15 | Lunessa | Answer - What does that have to do with WoW and why do I care? |
| 02:00.18 | Shirik | these are all in my list of questions to ask :P |
| 02:00.29 | Shirik | What is the name of the Draenei orphan available during this past Orphan's Week? |
| 02:00.36 | Shirik | if you want some WoW related questions |
| 02:00.37 | Lunessa | Daraa |
| 02:00.38 | Kaydeethree | dorna |
| 02:00.44 | Shirik | these are used during my speed round :P |
| 02:00.47 | Shirik | I really don't care about the answers |
| 02:00.52 | Shirik | it's just to break up the routine |
| 02:01.01 | cogwheel | On the one hand, I'm sad I missed children's week, but ....... Vegas! |
| 02:01.03 | Lunessa | Seriously. it's like... mind-numbing here. |
| 02:01.20 | Shirik | this one usually confuses people: How many classes are playable by the Horde side currently? |
| 02:01.32 | Lunessa | All of them. :P |
| 02:01.38 | Shirik | because I make the expicit statement "Horde" making it seem like it's different from alliance |
| 02:01.40 | wobin | cladhaire: http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b123/wobindwonderdog/bffjill_anonib.jpg |
| 02:01.42 | cogwheel | wtb gnome medic! |
| 02:01.49 | cladhaire | lolol |
| 02:01.56 | cogwheel | rofl |
| 02:02.02 | cladhaire | where's that from |
| 02:02.04 | cladhaire | cause i'm blogging it =) |
| 02:02.12 | wobin | got it off a friend =) |
| 02:02.44 | Shirik | cogwheel: how did you get that pm? |
| 02:02.48 | Shirik | Did you get it when you pinged me? |
| 02:03.01 | cogwheel | when I went cladhaire: Cairenn: Shirik: marco |
| 02:03.02 | Shirik | cause that shouldn't happen :/ |
| 02:03.06 | Shirik | >.> |
| 02:03.10 | Shirik | ok I'll have to fix that |
| 02:03.16 | Cairenn | please do :p |
| 02:03.19 | Shirik | sorry :( |
| 02:03.28 | Cairenn | heh, is okay :) |
| 02:03.49 | Lunessa | SCORE! |
| 02:03.55 | cogwheel | no it's not. I'm never gonna speak to him again... |
| 02:04.04 | cogwheel | wait... I never *have* spoken to him... |
| 02:04.23 | cogwheel | Well, you better not go to blizzcon, or else I won't........... |
| 02:04.33 | Shirik | I am! |
| 02:04.37 | Shirik | we already went over this |
| 02:04.41 | Shirik | printing out a copy of the code |
| 02:04.45 | Shirik | getting together with Guillotine |
| 02:04.52 | Shirik | we go to Slouken together to get him to sign it |
| 02:05.04 | cogwheel | gotta get Iriel & Tem too for their contributions :P |
| 02:05.11 | cogwheel | & esamynn |
| 02:05.18 | Guillotine | ya, but wouldn't be as funny. Iriel already heard the conversation :( |
| 02:05.27 | cogwheel | hehe |
| 02:05.35 | Lunessa | I'd love to go, and thought seriously about it... but I'm not sure I can afford to travel Blizzcon. |
| 02:05.37 | Cairenn | he knows about it too |
| 02:06.14 | Nom- | lol idiots |
| 02:06.21 | Nom- | Germany just declared hacking tools illegal |
| 02:06.37 | Nom- | That just shut down every single security company in that country |
| 02:06.38 | Cairenn | huh? |
| 02:06.49 | Kaydeethree | ya, that was a pretty stupid move on their part |
| 02:07.06 | Lunessa | Hey, there's a reason I will never travel there. Great engineers... stupid people. |
| 02:07.07 | wobin | >< |
| 02:07.19 | Nom- | There are companies all over the world who specialise in hacking |
| 02:07.25 | Cairenn | s/people/governing body/ |
| 02:07.28 | wobin | what defines a tool as a 'hacking' tool? |
| 02:07.30 | Nom- | Companies hire them to test the security of their network |
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| 02:07.33 | Kaydeethree | most all linux distros now can't be distributed there either. ethereal^Wwireshark's illegal with a lot of other network troubleshooting tools |
| 02:07.40 | Nom- | They just killed that entire industry |
| 02:07.44 | Shirik | ethereal is awesome |
| 02:08.00 | wobin | wow |
| 02:08.03 | Nom- | Yah, that's why it's stupid :) |
| 02:08.15 | wobin | I predict a whole lot of servers broken into from outside the country in the near future |
| 02:08.34 | Nom- | Things like packet sniffers, port scanners etc, will be in a legally grey area, if not explicitly illegal |
| 02:08.40 | Shirik | how did they define "illegal" ? |
| 02:08.41 | zenzelezz | couldn't debuggers be considered hacking tools? |
| 02:08.43 | Shirik | er "hacking" |
| 02:08.48 | wobin | By which, Germany will retaliate, by building a large wall around themselves |
| 02:08.58 | Nom- | http://it.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=07/05/31/1629259 |
| 02:09.04 | Shirik | the internet berlin wall |
| 02:09.09 | Lunessa | The Great Firewall of Germany? |
| 02:09.10 | Shirik | but this will be a relation to hitler |
| 02:09.18 | Shirik | thus... godwin's law |
| 02:09.20 | zenzelezz | The Fiber Curtain |
| 02:09.36 | Lunessa | Lowers your cholesterol? |
| 02:09.43 | Nom- | Manufacturing, programming, installing, or spreading software that can circumvent security measures is verboten, which means that some security scanning tools might become illegal. |
| 02:09.54 | wobin | Lunessa: Keeps your data regular |
| 02:10.17 | wobin | Surely the government bodies will be exempt from those rulings? |
| 02:10.20 | Nom- | verboten = forbidden |
| 02:10.36 | wobin | 'unauthorized' users |
| 02:11.18 | wobin | It's only the article's grammar, but it implies that an authorised user can use the tools |
| 02:11.42 | Shirik | Good day dmwaters! |
| 02:11.57 | zenzelezz | "... that have been out of rotation for a while. These servers have been out of rotation for a while" |
| 02:12.02 | Lunessa | Yeah, but manufacturing, programming, or distributing... |
| 02:12.34 | Lunessa | How long before they try to arrest some network admin who is troubleshooting a network problem |
| 02:12.53 | wobin | Lunessa: They'll just have to buy from outside the country |
| 02:13.03 | Cairenn | software that can circumvent security measures - isn't that Windows? |
| 02:13.11 | Shirik | lol. |
| 02:13.11 | wobin | "Are you sure? Y/N" |
| 02:13.47 | Lunessa | You are coming to a sad realization. Cancel or Allow? |
| 02:13.49 | cogwheel | This is the kind of thing that keeps me a libertarian... |
| 02:14.41 | Lunessa | Viva free thought! |
| 02:16.17 | Cairenn | Shirik: transferred |
| 02:16.23 | Shirik | <3 <3 |
| 02:16.38 | Cairenn | thank dolby-wowi, he's the one that actually did it |
| 02:16.56 | Shirik | <3 dolby-wowi |
| 02:19.29 | Shirik | uhh |
| 02:19.33 | Shirik | I've never had an addon on wowi before :( |
| 02:19.40 | Shirik | Do I hit the "upload patch" button? |
| 02:19.45 | Cairenn | no, edit |
| 02:19.57 | Shirik | and "replace with" ? |
| 02:20.01 | Shirik | So that won't remove the old one? |
| 02:20.03 | Cairenn | yup |
| 02:20.07 | Shirik | thanks ^^; |
| 02:20.09 | cogwheel | this faq amuses me: http://www.artlebedev.com/everything/optimus/faq/ |
| 02:20.12 | Cairenn | welcome |
| 02:20.27 | Garoun|Loupana | I <3 our wowi logs :P |
| 02:20.58 | Garoun|Loupana | http://ibot.rikers.org/%23wowi-lounge/20070120.html.gz this log has that discussion with Iriel and syntax-er about a mod crashing with an overflow |
| 02:21.06 | cogwheel | So, I switched over to #dongle and this is what I see: <cladhaire>do you have a way for someone to get naked? |
| 02:21.12 | cladhaire | =) |
| 02:21.19 | cladhaire | vital feature imo |
| 02:22.03 | Thunder_Child | great, next we will be seeing clad|porn |
| 02:22.19 | Garoun|Loupana | hehe |
| 02:22.19 | cladhaire | been there, done that |
| 02:22.20 | cladhaire | wrote a book |
| 02:22.20 | cladhaire | lol |
| 02:22.22 | cladhaire | we scared tulley |
| 02:22.24 | Garoun|Loupana | gonna get her to try playing with no mods at all activated and see if the error returns |
| 02:22.25 | cladhaire | tuller |
| 02:22.46 | Mikk | hmm.. load up a playermodel of target |
| 02:22.50 | Mikk | load up a model of your own toon |
| 02:22.54 | Mikk | place em in a frame together |
| 02:23.04 | Mikk | run select animation sequences |
| 02:23.05 | Mikk | wowpr0n! |
| 02:24.01 | Cairenn | or just go to world of whorecraft |
| 02:24.13 | cogwheel | Garoun|Loupana: interesting (re: chat log) |
| 02:24.29 | Garoun|Loupana | yeah, I had a similar issue when I tried to use some ACE mods on the PTR |
| 02:24.41 | cogwheel | <.< |
| 02:24.41 | Garoun|Loupana | and got frustrated and gave up :P |
| 02:24.56 | Garoun|Loupana | same, actually 2 pcs |
| 02:25.15 | Thunder_Child | cog, watching porn and typing in irc is strictly prohibited. |
| 02:26.15 | Lunessa | Yeah, I mean.. how will you control the video player and still have as hand left to type? |
| 02:26.51 | Thunder_Child | i would imagine that you would let the player...well....play... |
| 02:27.07 | Lunessa | Dude... REWIND? |
| 02:27.26 | Thunder_Child | why? |
| 02:27.29 | Lunessa | Or "Next Chapter"? |
| 02:27.45 | Thunder_Child | learn patience. |
| 02:27.59 | Lunessa | NEVAR! |
| 02:28.17 | Lunessa | Cog: That keyboard looks like a fun toy. |
| 02:33.02 | cogwheel | if it ever really catches on, I hope blizzard builds in support for it.... Imagine having a physical action bar that displays cooldowns and everything! |
| 02:33.47 | Lunessa | Oh yeah. HAWT. But at $1600 for the keyboard ... It better be the best damned keyboard EVER. |
| 02:34.07 | Cairenn | I wish they were making a split (ergo) version of it |
| 02:34.43 | Cairenn | I've gotten so used to using the ergonomic keyboards that a straight keyboard drives me crazy now |
| 02:34.48 | Lunessa | If the base were bigger, you could lay the buttons out in an ergo fashion. |
| 02:35.18 | Lunessa | I suffer from CTS in both wrists, so I'd want ergo layouts. |
| 02:35.52 | cogwheel | the only real keyboard quirk i have is when the enter key takes up the space where the backslash is, and the backslash takes up have the space of backspace... other than that, I'm pretty adaptable |
| 02:36.06 | cogwheel | s/have the space/half the space/ |
| 02:36.13 | Cairenn | they were (relatively) popular at one point, but it's getting harder and harder to find them any more |
| 02:36.49 | cogwheel | I'm *almost* getting to the point where i'd be willing to pay for a hardware switchable dvorak/qwerty kb... |
| 02:37.19 | cogwheel | but they're like $150... I'm used to getting KBs for like $5... or even free as throwaways from work >< |
| 02:37.56 | cogwheel | and using them for like 8 years... |
| 02:38.21 | Lunessa | Microsoft still makes one. And there are some other ergo-friendly keyboards. I wish the Kinesis (SP?) design had caught on. It had keys in 'cups' and was really comfy, but required a whole new typing skill and was too costly. |
| 02:39.20 | Cairenn | yeah, I'm using the MS one right now |
| 02:41.14 | Lunessa | http://www.wired.com/gadgets/mac/commentary/cultofmac/2007/05/cultofmac_0529 - "HP is like the plain girl from high school that you see three years later and she is a bombshell, while Dell is the hot girl from high school who has gained 30 pounds," analyst Samir Bhavnani told the Times. |
| 02:41.47 | Mikk | haha |
| 02:48.17 | Garoun|Loupana | ok, that STACK_OVERFLOW error, confirmed it isn't addons :P |
| 02:48.35 | Garoun|Loupana | her wow just locked up with no addons at all running, guess I can check that off the list |
| 02:48.52 | cogwheel | try the repair tool next maybe? |
| 02:49.26 | Garoun|Loupana | already did that before the run |
| 02:49.43 | cogwheel | very odd... |
| 02:50.37 | Garoun|Loupana | next5 try is making sure cache is clear, wiped the blizz addons and take 2 |
| 02:50.37 | Garoun|Loupana | trying to do it a peice at a time |
| 02:51.01 | Garoun|Loupana | peice even |
| 02:52.02 | Garoun|Loupana | then I get to try it with running -opengl and/or no windowed mode |
| 02:53.07 | Lunessa | Has anyone seen the "Surface" stuff from Microsoft? |
| 02:53.54 | Garoun|Loupana | you mean iphone er google touch screen.. er yeah Surface :) |
| 02:54.03 | Lunessa | Yeah. |
| 02:54.53 | Lunessa | I want something like that for playing games. Kind of like Rte's project where he played WoW with 'touch interface' based on cameras watching his hands. |
| 02:55.43 | Thunder_Child | what really? you dont want the full body VR getup? |
| 02:56.17 | Lunessa | Um... No. |
| 02:56.42 | Lunessa | I like to disassociate from the game to being 'real' quickly. |
| 02:57.00 | Lunessa | I don't want to have to 'unsuit' to go take a leak. |
| 02:57.11 | Thunder_Child | cathiter |
| 02:58.00 | cogwheel | I imagine I'll be like that when I get really old... I can't wait to see how our generation's geezers turn out :P |
| 02:58.24 | Thunder_Child | scary to the younger generation as usual |
| 02:58.33 | Lunessa | Hah... I'm pushing for 'geezerhood' pretty soon. |
| 02:58.53 | Thunder_Child | really? geezerhood doesnt really start till 70 or so now |
| 02:59.19 | Lunessa | Not the years, it's the milage. |
| 02:59.24 | Lunessa | Or something. |
| 02:59.32 | Lunessa | Imagine I spelled it correctly. |
| 03:00.14 | Lunessa | And on that note, I'm out. It's been fun folks. |
| 03:00.15 | cogwheel | No need... that's waht purl's for... |
| 03:00.22 | cogwheel | s/ah/ha/ |
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| 03:01.23 | Thunder_Child | i so enjoy how the tab completion feature of pidgin keeps crashing me |
| 03:03.26 | Cairenn | Thunder_Child: it does? doesn't for me |
| 03:03.50 | Thunder_Child | well it happens raely, but it does happen |
| 03:03.55 | Thunder_Child | rarely* |
| 03:03.57 | Cairenn | odd |
| 03:04.24 | Kaydeethree | bleh. 12% wipe on hydross |
| 03:04.25 | zenzelezz | for the life of me I can't seem to figure why the "SELF" drop-down menu won't show on my secureunitbutton... left-clicking works |
| 03:04.39 | zenzelezz | right-clicking seems to do nothing, but I really don't know for sure... nothing shows up |
| 03:04.51 | zenzelezz | and I ninjaed most of the code from the FrameXML :-| |
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| 03:06.32 | Garoun|Loupana | now what would be funny is if the cause of the crash was a blizzard addon |
| 03:07.55 | Garoun|Loupana | a later step is going to be loading her wtf/interface folder on my laptop and see if I can crash it there, debugging <3 sigh :P |
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| 03:10.19 | zenzelezz | bah, I haven't yet found my problem and on my screen I see... [SERVER] Restart in 15:00 |
| 03:10.20 | zenzelezz | WoW hates me today |
| 03:10.28 | Mr_Rabies2 | bilbo |
| 03:10.32 | Mr_Rabies2 | bilbo baggins |
| 03:10.38 | Mr_Rabies2 | bravest little hobbit of them allll |
| 03:10.49 | zenzelezz | hardly |
| 03:10.50 | Mr_Rabies2 | GET OUT OF MY HEAD LEONARD NIMOY >:[ |
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| 03:19.46 | Mikk | Muahahahaha |
| 03:19.56 | Mikk | Leonard singing ftw |
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| 03:30.03 | cladhaire | ok |
| 03:30.04 | cladhaire | someone |
| 03:30.05 | cladhaire | prep me |
| 03:30.11 | cladhaire | i'm a shadow priest on nightbane |
| 03:30.11 | cladhaire | go |
| 03:30.25 | Shirik | /target cladhaire |
| 03:30.29 | Shirik | /cast Preparation |
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| 03:31.38 | cladhaire | lol |
| 03:32.11 | Shirik | not entirely sure what you want :/ |
| 03:34.42 | Tain | Don't take candy from strangers. |
| 03:35.04 | cladhaire | ty |
| 03:35.26 | Tain | Do that... what do these kids call it.. "melt face" thing. |
| 03:35.42 | cladhaire | ooh |
| 03:35.43 | cladhaire | i know that one |
| 03:59.26 | Garoun|Loupana | ok, that error is really starting to annoy me :P |
| 03:59.37 | Garoun|Loupana | just leaving her pc up with wow crashes |
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| 04:05.16 | Kaydeethree | oh hell yes... goodbye hydross |
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| 04:11.44 | VoiDRaider | I made this function that sort my table items http://wowi.pastey.net/47400 and I want a specific item to be at the top unsorted, regardless to the rest of the items, how can I do that ? |
| 04:18.53 | Shadowed | Anyone have a suggestion for a BLP -> TGA converter |
| 04:20.11 | VoiDRaider | WoWBLPViewer ? |
| 04:21.58 | Mikk | blpconverter |
| 04:22.15 | Mikk | converts to png tho but i suppose that's ok too? |
| 04:22.23 | Shadowed | That works, thanks |
| 04:22.26 | Shadowed | Yea as long as i can modify it |
| 04:22.42 | VoiDRaider | Yeah you can though local function comp(a, b) |
| 04:22.42 | VoiDRaider | return a[sort] < b[sort] |
| 04:22.42 | VoiDRaider | end |
| 04:22.44 | VoiDRaider | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:22.51 | VoiDRaider | :| |
| 04:24.16 | VoiDRaider | Anyway you can though WoWBLPViewer convert it directly to TGA |
| 04:27.51 | Mr_Rabies2 | okay, a mage in arenas just tried to polymorph me, a druid, in bear form. |
| 04:28.02 | Mr_Rabies2 | that's the first time that's happened since xrealm bgs opened up |
| 04:31.06 | Mikk | kept you from charging him instantly didn't it? |
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| 04:31.09 | Shirik | no :/ |
| 04:31.09 | Shirik | he's immune to polymorph |
| 04:31.10 | Shirik | not just can shift out |
| 04:31.19 | Mikk | errrrr |
| 04:31.27 | Mikk | i knew this. i'm a druid >.< |
| 04:32.21 | Shirik | lol |
| 04:32.36 | Xenok | hmmm I have this: http://wowi.pastey.net/47416 but it only counts the >=4 .. not the rest... so im 70 and it only gives me the >=4 line XD |
| 04:32.39 | wobin | does that pull you into combat? |
| 04:32.44 | wobin | the attempt at sheeping |
| 04:32.53 | Mikk | would assume so |
| 04:32.59 | wobin | wouldn't that stop the instant charge? |
| 04:33.06 | Mikk | no |
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| 04:33.09 | Mikk | bears can charge whenever =) |
| 04:33.17 | wobin | \O/ |
| 04:33.36 | Mikk | so, yeah, in summary: nub mage :-P |
| 04:35.08 | Shirik | Xenok like I said |
| 04:35.11 | Shirik | you need to reverse the order of those |
| 04:35.16 | Xenok | revers?! |
| 04:35.19 | Shirik | if someone's 70 |
| 04:35.23 | Shirik | they're obviously >= 4, right? |
| 04:35.29 | Xenok | hmmm |
| 04:35.52 | Shirik | didn't I mention this about 6 hours ago? ^^ |
| 04:36.06 | Xenok | lol I don't remember XD |
| 04:36.18 | wobin | Xenok: If you move all the hides outside the whole loop, you can just 'show' the ones you need? |
| 04:36.27 | Shirik | I said that too :P |
| 04:36.31 | Xenok | did not!! |
| 04:36.37 | Shirik | I said to abstract your code |
| 04:36.41 | Xenok | oh yeah.. |
| 04:36.54 | Mikk | you can also make it about a tenth of the size |
| 04:36.58 | Mikk | gimme a sec |
| 04:37.17 | wobin | Xenok: Across the road, not down the street |
| 04:37.35 | Xenok | v_v |
| 04:38.12 | wobin | whoops |
| 04:38.24 | Xenok | lol |
| 04:38.25 | VoiDRaider | Can anyone help me sorting a table in a specific order using table.sort ? |
| 04:38.25 | wobin | Xenok: Down the street, not across the road =) |
| 04:38.43 | Xenok | lol wobin |
| 04:39.07 | Mikk | Xenok: http://wowi.pastey.net/47418-2uyx |
| 04:39.11 | wobin | VoiDRaider: What sort of order? |
| 04:39.30 | VoiDRaider | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:39.43 | Xenok | woah.. that makes sence mikk XD |
| 04:40.22 | wobin | Have your function return false for the __lt for that item all the time |
| 04:40.41 | wobin | so it's determined as the 'greatest' in comparison against everything |
| 04:40.47 | VoiDRaider | yeah |
| 04:41.29 | VoiDRaider | although I want one of my items to be at the top, anyway of doing it using that method ? |
| 04:41.42 | Bleeter | heh, this /say gold seller's back |
| 04:42.09 | Mikk | VoiDRaider: wobin just told you how to do that |
| 04:42.09 | Xenok | throw snowballs bleeter |
| 04:42.09 | VoiDRaider | ah sorry :| |
| 04:42.13 | Bleeter | don't have any toons nearby with.. erm.. balls |
| 04:42.48 | Xenok | Wooot ty Mikk .. works like a charm! |
| 04:43.31 | VoiDRaider | Anyway thanks :P |
| 04:44.27 | VoiDRaider | I tried it eariler but I used the wrong variable so it didn't work :) |
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| 04:44.52 | Shirik | night Cairenn|afk |
| 04:44.58 | Cairenn|afk | night night |
| 04:45.04 | wobin | sorting functions are some of the worst to debug =( |
| 04:45.27 | VoiDRaider | :P |
| 04:46.29 | VoiDRaider | Yeah I used the table key and compared it with the wrong variable haha :D |
| 04:50.19 | ZealotOnAStick | Anyone know of a mod that will just display MH and OH weapon speeds on screen? |
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| 05:15.53 | Mr_Rabies2 | :[ |
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| 06:05.24 | *** topic/#wowi-lounge is #wowi-lounge: Paste Code Here: http://wowi.pastey.net | 2.1 Toc: 20100 | RTFPN please | http://www.wowinterface.com/forums/showthread.php?t=10302 |
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| 06:18.31 | Guillotine | after you hit max level, whats the best way to tell when you get the credit for a kill? (since "CHAT_MSG_COMBAT_HOSTILE_DEATH" is fired for any mob near you that dies. And if somebody else gets the killing blow, arg1 shows no difference than if you do)? |
| 06:18.47 | Shirik | "You have slain ____" |
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| 06:19.00 | Guillotine | read the end. if someone else gets the killing blow, you don't get that |
| 06:19.06 | Shirik | correct |
| 06:19.14 | Guillotine | and if you get the killing blow on someone else's mob, you get that |
| 06:19.22 | Guillotine | so I guess theres really no way to tell for sure |
| 06:19.23 | Shirik | you g oh |
| 06:19.24 | Shirik | you mean |
| 06:19.29 | Shirik | like if the mob wasn't tagged by someone else |
| 06:19.36 | Guillotine | right |
| 06:19.40 | Shirik | sorry misunderstood |
| 06:20.06 | Guillotine | hmm. I suppose, I can check, when it hits 0% if it is tagged by me |
| 06:20.13 | Guillotine | assuming the marker doesn't dissapear right away |
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| 06:32.11 | Shirik | that's assuming that you have it targetted |
| 06:32.25 | Guillotine | true |
| 06:40.40 | wobin | http://www.lolcode.com/ |
| 06:42.44 | Guillotine | wobin: been posted many times. I think foxlit and I are going to make an addon so that you can script for WoW using lolcode |
| 06:43.14 | wobin | That would be classy! |
| 06:43.29 | wobin | or something =P |
| 06:43.32 | Guillotine | "Coding for the average WoW player!" |
| 06:43.38 | Guillotine | HAI |
| 06:43.43 | Guillotine | ISAI2U Hello |
| 06:43.56 | Guillotine | PEWPEW Moonfire |
| 06:44.16 | Guillotine | actually, can't do spells in scripts anymore. keep forgetting that >< |
| 06:44.26 | Shirik | sure you can |
| 06:44.30 | Guillotine | well, kind of |
| 06:44.30 | Shirik | you just need to translate it |
| 06:44.58 | Guillotine | eh, not really. CastSpellByName doesn't work even out of combat |
| 06:45.09 | Guillotine | you need to edit a secure button and all that |
| 06:45.17 | Shirik | right |
| 06:45.26 | Shirik | you really don't have to go that far |
| 06:45.31 | Shirik | you can just generate teh macro in the background |
| 06:45.42 | Shirik | they can bind it to whatever they want |
| 06:46.43 | Guillotine | I guess that would work |
| 06:47.04 | Guillotine | I IS PEWPEW Mindblast WHEN U IS PRESIN 5 |
| 06:47.26 | Guillotine | bind it using the new thing |
| 06:47.27 | Guillotine | lol |
| 06:48.16 | Guillotine | is there actually any implementation of lolcode yet or is it just a compilation of ideas? |
| 06:48.25 | Shirik | there are several |
| 06:49.57 | Guillotine | wow, not sure how I missed that page |
| 06:49.58 | Guillotine | there it is |
| 06:54.43 | Corrodias | 3 nights of raiding feels like ages |
| 06:55.29 | Corrodias | like my entire week has consisted of karazhan & netherwing daily quests, just over and over.. |
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| 07:09.23 | Guillotine | I'm so happy with my group. we just downed shade today. I've tanked all the way through on my druid XD |
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| 07:12.50 | JunkHead-Work | I didn't go to Kara today. I got home a few minutes too late. |
| 07:13.08 | JunkHead-Work | My guild took some people who were not the usual crew. |
| 07:13.16 | JunkHead-Work | The result apparantly was very bad. |
| 07:13.58 | JunkHead-Work | One of our MT's even specced out of Prot because of today. |
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| 08:21.32 | Adys | is there a way to, in a single macro, only dismount if I am already mounted, or mount up if I wasnt mounted before? At the moment I use /use [flyable] Reins of the Violet Netherwing Drake; [noflyable] Reins of the Swift Frostsaber - but it only dismounts me if I am using one of the two mounts and not another |
| 08:32.38 | Nom- | woooooooooot |
| 08:32.47 | Nom- | finally finished my pain-in-the-arse code |
| 08:32.56 | Nom- | *sips beer* |
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| 08:55.10 | Bleeter | hmm, I see there's a 'fix' for WoW Winers |
| 08:56.12 | Bleeter | http://lists.transgaming.org/pipermail/winex-cvs-logs/2007-May/002976.html |
| 08:56.30 | Bleeter | though one has to port that from Transgaming's Cedega to Wine, 'coz they didn't send it upstream |
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| 09:03.50 | JunkHead-Work | I hope today turns out to be better for me in WoW than yesterday did. |
| 09:03.55 | JunkHead-Work | Yesterday sucked. |
| 09:04.10 | JunkHead-Work | It was one of those "what the else can go wrong" days. |
| 09:05.28 | Tem | When do pvp points post? |
| 09:05.34 | Tem | 2am PST? |
| 09:05.37 | JunkHead-Work | No idea. |
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| 10:34.11 | foxlit | Is <Color> inside a <Texture file="..."> equivalent to doing Texture:SetVertexColor? |
| 10:39.15 | Mikk | doubt it |
| 10:39.28 | Mikk | More like SetTexture(r,g,b) |
| 10:39.47 | Mikk | not that i'm 100% sure. i suck a bit at xml like most of us :-P |
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| 12:03.43 | Industrial | any locks ere? |
| 12:03.45 | Industrial | http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=IiMriRfkqtbo0xZxx0z |
| 12:03.55 | Industrial | this would be for leveling |
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| 12:04.06 | Industrial | i took shadowburn but looking at its tooltip it seems really weak |
| 12:04.44 | nevcairiel | i went with 20/41/0 for leveling |
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| 12:04.46 | Industrial | as in it uses .5k mana AND a soul shard, then does 5k damage wich isnt a whole lot (for rank 8!) and MAYBE returns a shard |
| 12:04.48 | nevcairiel | the felguard is really powerful |
| 12:05.13 | Industrial | er, .5k damage* |
| 12:06.48 | zenzelezz | by the time you have 61 talent points there's not much leveling left to do |
| 12:07.10 | nevcairiel | true tho |
| 12:07.12 | Industrial | " Voidwalker/Felguard Perpetual Mana Machine (20/41/0)" ? |
| 12:07.17 | Industrial | http://www.wowwiki.com/Warlock_builds |
| 12:08.11 | nevcairiel | ive got some affliction talents different |
| 12:08.14 | nevcairiel | but the basics are that |
| 12:08.23 | Industrial | hey wait a min, wow i never thought of that |
| 12:08.44 | nevcairiel | http://armory.wow-europe.com/#character-sheet.xml?r=Antonidas&n=Orlin |
| 12:08.47 | nevcairiel | my 65 lock |
| 12:08.47 | Industrial | cast rank 1 drain soul and still get 15% mana back, while at later levels the mana it takes is nothing :o |
| 12:08.50 | nevcairiel | with that build basicly |
| 12:10.39 | [Ammo] | the dot threat reduction talent is goooood |
| 12:10.40 | [Ammo] | :) |
| 12:10.58 | [Ammo] | that it also gives you mana if you kill with drain soul is bons |
| 12:11.00 | [Ammo] | bonus |
| 12:11.23 | nevcairiel | my felguard holds pretty good aggro against my dots+drain life |
| 12:11.28 | nevcairiel | and i dont group, yet =P |
| 12:11.52 | Industrial | but, like, 15% >_O |
| 12:13.01 | [Ammo] | felguard is a nice levelling build |
| 12:13.12 | nevcairiel | ive been affliction before |
| 12:13.18 | nevcairiel | but in outlands that doesnt work out |
| 12:13.24 | [Ammo] | it works fine for me |
| 12:13.27 | nevcairiel | too much HP on the mobs, too crowded arreas |
| 12:13.34 | nevcairiel | no room for fear :P |
| 12:13.41 | [Ammo] | I don't fear |
| 12:13.42 | [Ammo] | I draintank |
| 12:13.54 | [Ammo] | I only fear adds I get |
| 12:14.07 | [Ammo] | basically using it to control rather than kill |
| 12:16.37 | nevcairiel | well, my gear sucked when i started leveling, only been like 50 when BC came out, so i started in outlands with basicly nothing :P |
| 12:16.44 | nevcairiel | felguard was wtfpwn |
| 12:17.24 | Industrial | mine is 15 now :P |
| 12:18.19 | [Ammo] | nevcairiel: that's true |
| 12:18.24 | Industrial | http://armory.wow-europe.com/#character-sheet.xml?r=Grim+Batol&n=Depereo |
| 12:18.27 | [Ammo] | that's why I said levelling build :) |
| 12:19.13 | nevcairiel | i dont know what i spec when i get 70 tho |
| 12:19.15 | nevcairiel | maybe 40/0/21 |
| 12:19.45 | [Ammo] | I'm 45/0/16 |
| 12:19.51 | Industrial | dot'n'run :P |
| 12:20.00 | [Ammo] | yeah basically |
| 12:20.25 | [Ammo] | http://armory.wow-europe.com/#character-sheet.xml?r=Kazzak&n=Ammo |
| 12:20.51 | [Ammo] | oh 45/16/0 |
| 12:20.52 | [Ammo] | woops :p |
| 12:21.07 | nevcairiel | heh |
| 12:23.43 | [Ammo] | as you can see I've been unlucky with the headgear and weapoon :p |
| 12:26.37 | nevcairiel | no luck on prince eh ? |
| 12:29.29 | [Ammo] | indeed |
| 12:29.52 | [Ammo] | other than that the gear is coming along quite decent |
| 12:30.34 | nevcairiel | i still need good bracers for my druid |
| 12:30.48 | nevcairiel | but i havent even seen a boss which drops good ones. |
| 12:31.01 | nevcairiel | http://armory.wow-europe.com/#character-sheet.xml?r=Antonidas&n=Nevcairiel |
| 12:31.07 | nevcairiel | other then that, cannot complain |
| 12:32.29 | [Ammo] | helm + weapon would net me 100 more spelldamage orso |
| 12:32.29 | [Ammo] | meh |
| 12:32.38 | nevcairiel | heh |
| 12:32.41 | [Ammo] | but I'll get it :) |
| 12:32.43 | [Ammo] | evnetually |
| 12:32.58 | [Ammo] | raidbuffed I run around with 13k hp and 10k mana though |
| 12:33.00 | [Ammo] | which is sweet :) |
| 12:33.16 | nevcairiel | stupid locks :) |
| 12:33.29 | nevcairiel | we are on leotheras now, another fight with a lock tank. |
| 12:33.35 | nevcairiel | fire resist this time tho. |
| 12:36.52 | Nerinia | ~dict ime |
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| 12:40.07 | Garoun | what type of druid bracers were you lookinng for Nev? |
| 12:40.30 | nevcairiel | healing, something to replace my t3 |
| 12:40.53 | Garoun | ah, in that case I'm no help ;( |
| 12:41.06 | Garoun | I'm purely tank spec |
| 12:42.30 | Garoun | you may have to go cloth to find better :/ |
| 12:42.41 | nevcairiel | there are some bracers on wowhead, but i have no clue wherefrom |
| 12:43.48 | cladhaire | Anyone want to help me minmax gems? |
| 12:44.00 | Garoun | http://druid.wikispaces.com/Healing+Gear+List not sure how updated that one is but should help Nev |
| 12:44.15 | cladhaire | this is me |
| 12:44.16 | cladhaire | http://armory.worldofwarcraft.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Stormrage&n=Sagart |
| 12:44.22 | nevcairiel | ah rage winterchill drops my bracers |
| 12:44.29 | nevcairiel | man, its going to be some time until hyjal |
| 12:44.33 | Garoun | that's Hyjal |
| 12:44.36 | Garoun | hehe |
| 12:45.10 | Garoun | my main pain right now is the last 3500 rep I need with CE for my warden, and trying to debug this 132 crash my g/fs pc is having |
| 12:45.46 | Garoun | the most frustrating part of the latter is I'm running out of options, I've had memtest running for the last 10 hours and not a single error |
| 12:46.00 | zenzelezz | any Devastating warriors present? |
| 12:46.23 | wobin | I've been told I cut quite the dashing figure, at times... =) |
| 12:46.23 | Garoun | which means it's moving back towards a wow client or wow config issue, sigh |
| 12:47.29 | Garoun | Clad, aren't the +spell damage gems rather expensive item budget wise? |
| 12:47.33 | zenzelezz | the Devastate tooltip says it renews the Sunder Armor debuff timer on the target, but I think I'm seeing it only renew part of it, not completely restarting it |
| 12:47.43 | cladhaire | Garoun: no, the +7 spell damage is free for me. |
| 12:47.47 | cladhaire | just pay the cost of a blood garnet |
| 12:47.56 | cladhaire | i'm looking to min/max with the green gems |
| 12:48.13 | cladhaire | i.e. Potent Flame Spessarite, Glowing Shadow Draenite and Runed Blood Garnet |
| 12:48.17 | Garoun | no no, I meant in regards to other gems you could use in it's place if that makes sense :) |
| 12:48.31 | cladhaire | well, I'm a shadow priest |
| 12:48.34 | cladhaire | so nothign other than +dmg matters |
| 12:48.50 | Garoun | like for my druid +dodge has a higher item budget cost than agi :) |
| 12:49.12 | cladhaire | well these are for sockets |
| 12:49.16 | cladhaire | and +dmg is all that matters |
| 12:49.47 | Garoun | I wish blizz would display the default socket as well :P |
| 12:50.10 | cladhaire | hehe |
| 12:50.18 | cladhaire | well in this case, socket bonuses aren't very useful |
| 12:50.49 | Garoun | yeah I noticed |
| 12:52.08 | Garoun | god, I haven't played a shadow priest in forever :/ only reason I asked that question was the possibility of lowering some fo your spell damage to get more crit |
| 12:52.18 | cladhaire | yeah |
| 12:52.19 | Garoun | but considering most of your shadow spells don't crit, that'd be dumb :P |
| 12:52.20 | cladhaire | crit is useless |
| 12:52.22 | cladhaire | mind flay can't crit =) |
| 12:52.31 | Garoun | yeah, thinking out loud hehe |
| 12:52.44 | End | mind blast can, but I don't think you really use that spell that often |
| 12:52.49 | End | and sw:d probably can |
| 12:52.53 | End | that's..it though? |
| 12:53.20 | [Ammo] | cladhaire: did you get my messages about the Clique zhTW file that ended up on your perfectraid googlesvn :) |
| 12:53.57 | cladhaire | [Ammo]: yes.. just remove it for now. |
| 12:53.59 | [Ammo] | I had quite some beer when I noticed it, and can't remember if you understood or not :) |
| 12:53.59 | cladhaire | or i'll grab it later |
| 12:54.02 | [Ammo] | I did |
| 12:54.22 | [Ammo] | it doesn't error when you have clique installed ofcourse :) |
| 12:54.35 | cladhaire | heh |
| 12:54.35 | cladhaire | no one uses svn |
| 12:54.38 | cladhaire | so that's why i havebn't bothered |
| 12:54.51 | [Ammo] | I do :) |
| 12:54.53 | [Ammo] | easy update |
| 12:55.03 | foxlit | Hm, there's a silly roadblock to using RunScript() to load addons |
| 12:55.05 | [Ammo] | and if it breaks, it breaks :) |
| 12:55.20 | foxlit | They get no loading-related events :( |
| 12:55.32 | nevcairiel | heh |
| 12:56.09 | nevcairiel | you can always send them that events |
| 12:56.21 | foxlit | Well, yes, no, maybe. |
| 12:56.49 | foxlit | I can't raise a generic event for all frames, so I have to know what to call to actually give them the shove. |
| 12:56.55 | cladhaire | foxlit: you mean ADDON_LOADED doesn't fire? |
| 12:57.09 | foxlit | And VARIABLES_LOADED; and, probably PLAYER_ENTERING_WORLD |
| 12:57.30 | cladhaire | lies |
| 12:57.33 | cladhaire | ADDON_LOADED just fired. |
| 12:57.40 | cladhaire | and VARIABLES_LOADED/PLAYER_ENTERING_WORLD only happen once |
| 12:57.41 | cladhaire | ever |
| 12:57.47 | nevcairiel | when do you runscript them ? |
| 12:57.51 | foxlit | ENTERING_WORLD happens on every zonein |
| 12:57.51 | cladhaire | yes |
| 12:57.59 | foxlit | But that's beside the point |
| 12:57.59 | Garoun | whats the suggested min for Spell Hit/Penetration vs lvl 73 mobs? |
| 12:58.10 | cladhaire | RunScript("LoadAddOn(\"LightHeaded_Alliance_Data\")") |
| 12:58.12 | cladhaire | fires ADDON_LOADED |
| 12:58.17 | foxlit | Nono :) |
| 12:58.18 | cladhaire | which is the only event it should fire. |
| 12:58.23 | foxlit | RunScript("Entire addon code here") |
| 12:58.32 | cladhaire | .... |
| 12:58.34 | foxlit | I can only get the code once my savedvariables load, which means I've already went past some of the loading sequence |
| 12:58.36 | cladhaire | that's not "loading an addon |
| 12:58.52 | cladhaire | which is why you're having a problem =) |
| 12:58.57 | foxlit | Consider the phase suitably ammended :) |
| 12:59.05 | cladhaire | well, you can't solve that |
| 12:59.14 | cladhaire | you can trigger that addon's init code manually after the RunScript |
| 12:59.19 | cladhaire | btu nothing else SHOULD fire |
| 12:59.22 | cladhaire | because an addon wasn't loaded. |
| 12:59.44 | nevcairiel | unless you use some framework, and let the code inside your RunScript register to that framework, and init through that .. thats what i would do i guess |
| 12:59.46 | foxlit | Which creates a bit of a problem to direct porting :) |
| 13:00.05 | cladhaire | nevcairiel: that's no different than doing it manually |
| 13:00.10 | nevcairiel | true |
| 13:00.13 | nevcairiel | but more generic |
| 13:00.14 | nevcairiel | :) |
| 13:00.22 | cladhaire | for some value of "generic" |
| 13:01.17 | Garoun | clad: does Mindflay/SW:P have a resist and partial resist check every tick? |
| 13:01.35 | cladhaire | Garoun: I don't think so, but I'm not sure. |
| 13:02.51 | nevcairiel | dots dont have partial resists |
| 13:02.53 | nevcairiel | iirc |
| 13:03.00 | nevcairiel | channeld spells .. not sure, but i dont think so |
| 13:03.02 | cladhaire | same |
| 13:03.04 | cladhaire | just wasn't sure =) |
| 13:03.12 | cladhaire | i do not believe so |
| 13:03.17 | cladhaire | ive never seen a mid fight resist |
| 13:03.20 | foxlit | AM resistchecks every tick |
| 13:03.21 | Garoun | was only throwing out the possibility of swapping some spell penetration+spell damage gems, but if there aren't checks that wouldn't up your dmg much at all |
| 13:03.23 | cladhaire | only on cast |
| 13:03.32 | cladhaire | Garoun: nah, all I need is spell hit |
| 13:03.33 | foxlit | But AM is special, meh. |
| 13:03.48 | nevcairiel | AM is indeed weird. |
| 13:04.14 | nevcairiel | does it cancel on LoS issues now, or was that unpatched again? |
| 13:04.29 | foxlit | I have no idea. |
| 13:04.40 | foxlit | Think the intention is that it automatically tracks target until you lose range/LoS |
| 13:04.42 | Garoun | you at least have room to go with larger +dmg gems, but those get expensive until you have the gems |
| 13:05.41 | Garoun | I'd say look towards the Great, Veiled, Shining line of Gems |
| 13:06.20 | Garoun | great is pure hit, veiled/shine are the +dmg/+hit |
| 13:07.45 | cladhaire | hrm k k |
| 13:07.46 | Garoun | Nev: hope that gear list link I posted helps you out, the tank list on that suite is my guide to the galaxy :P |
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| 13:09.01 | Garoun | take that with a grain of salt Clad :), I always let my g/f do the socketing in DAOC, and I'm not all that good socketing in wow hehe |
| 13:09.08 | cladhaire | hehe |
| 13:09.18 | cladhaire | got it= ) |
| 13:09.20 | Garoun | it's too many choices and gives me a headache |
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| 13:19.05 | Josh_Borke | morning |
| 13:19.48 | Garoun | morn |
| 13:22.41 | Garoun | hmm, is there a listing of cvars and what they are supposedly used for? I found the default list on the wiki but not quite what I was looking for |
| 13:24.06 | zenzelezz | oh for fooks sake... I was staring at my code for hours last night trying to figure why my dropdown menu wouldn't show |
| 13:24.22 | Josh_Borke | menu:Show()? |
| 13:24.26 | zenzelezz | turned out since I didn't call UnitFrame_Initialize(), it didn't register for RightButtonUp |
| 13:25.08 | zenzelezz | once I copied the RegisterForClicks from UnitFrame_Initialize to my button's OnLoad, everything worked... x.x |
| 13:25.21 | Josh_Borke | :-) |
| 13:36.12 | Thrae | OK, where are the Curse guys and how can I kill them |
| 13:36.20 | cladhaire | lol |
| 13:36.33 | zenzelezz | what now Thrae? |
| 13:37.14 | Thrae | Nevermind, I figured it out -- trying to change my email address. The box had grey text, so I thought it was locked. |
| 13:38.45 | Thrae | Having the box use light grey text is kinda misleading. |
| 13:38.54 | Thrae | Not to mention hard to read on a white background ;) |
| 13:41.12 | zenzelezz | yeah |
| 13:47.27 | Maldivia | grr... the changes to FCF_ValidateChatFramePosition really annoys me |
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| 14:09.21 | cladhaire | why? |
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| 14:17.38 | Maldivia | because you can't move the tabs for the chatframes out of the screen anymore |
| 14:17.43 | Maldivia | had to disable that function to do that |
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| 14:31.22 | zenzelezz | what's FCF? |
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| 15:00.45 | TS|Skrom | Hello folks :D |
| 15:02.29 | zenzelezz | ahoy |
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| 15:08.47 | TS|Skrom | Okay so I just started playing WoW again and I've got the scripting bug again. I'm a bit rusty so went on wowwiki to find the old addon tutorials. Much to my dismay I can't seem to find them. The one in particular that was very helpful was "making a quest log from scratch" anyone know if I'm just blind or another place I can see that one? |
| 15:09.18 | cogwheel|work | Get clad's book :P |
| 15:09.38 | cogwheel|work | http://www.amazon.com/Hacking-Warcraft-ExtremeTech-Daniel-Gilbert/dp/0470110023/ |
| 15:10.00 | zenzelezz | TS|Skrom: http://www.wowwiki.com/Category:HOWTOs -- one of the ones under "U"? |
| 15:10.09 | TS|Skrom | no kidding cog? rock on, wtg clad |
| 15:10.14 | cladhaire | thx |
| 15:10.23 | TS|Skrom | *palmface* oh yeah, the how to's >< |
| 15:13.08 | zenzelezz | I know I shouldn't make fun of people who speak poor English, but this was just unintentionally funny... "Looking for caster who can make helm of stalwark defensive" |
| 15:13.38 | TS|Skrom | thanks, that's what I needed. A refresher basically on all the parts that are needed for an addon to function lol |
| 15:14.04 | zenzelezz | just remember, aim big, but start small |
| 15:14.29 | TS|Skrom | yeah... my mind is a sieve lately it seems. like I forgot how to make a frame >< |
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| 15:40.21 | Garoun | Happy happy druid, took 3 days but finally got my Badge of Tenacity :) |
| 15:40.45 | foxlit | Haha, poor ferals |
| 15:41.07 | foxlit | Think some people in our guild are blowing some serious time on farming that :) |
| 15:41.17 | Shirik | qq |
| 15:41.29 | Shirik | remember when everyone was mad at me for using (%w+) to detect names? |
| 15:41.33 | Shirik | I just got a bug report :( |
| 15:41.41 | Shirik | "Unicode characters causing errors in the Bossmod(And possibly other things)" |
| 15:41.42 | foxlit | %S+ |
| 15:41.58 | Shirik | fine.... I'll have to fix it for these people >.> |
| 15:42.04 | foxlit | Tbh, don't |
| 15:42.12 | foxlit | Their own damn fault for not following naming policy! |
| 15:42.43 | Shirik | nah I'll fix it :P |
| 15:42.46 | Shirik | It's a minor change |
| 15:43.00 | Shirik | [^%s]+ instead of %w+ |
| 15:43.28 | foxlit | What's this [^%s] nonsense? |
| 15:43.28 | Garoun | hate non-standard names, they are a pain in the ass, and they cause mods like spamsentry to sometimes lock up :/ |
| 15:43.44 | Shirik | non whitespace characters? |
| 15:43.50 | foxlit | %S matches the same thing |
| 15:44.08 | Shirik | yeah but I don't recognize %S so if I did that, I'd probably come back to it in a month and be like "wtf" |
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| 15:44.15 | foxlit | (infact, all %sets have complements in %SETS) |
| 15:44.34 | Garoun | I usually refuse to send any party invites to someone if I can't type their name with a standard keyboard (without having to resort to alt codes) |
| 15:47.17 | Shirik | so do I |
| 15:47.39 | Shirik | but I can't go and respond to this bug report with "nah,I wouldn't invite him, you shouldn't either" |
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| 15:51.51 | |Jelly| | Morning Shirik! |
| 15:51.57 | Shirik | Morning :D |
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| 15:52.31 | Garoun | hehe, yeah I know shirik |
| 15:53.16 | Mikk | "Not following naming policy?" |
| 15:53.28 | Josh_Borke | Morning :D |
| 15:53.30 | Mikk | When was it ever against naming policy to use letters used in tehforeign? |
| 15:53.38 | Mikk | (== myforeign?) |
| 15:53.49 | Josh_Borke | "Not following naming policy?" |
| 15:54.00 | Josh_Borke | When was it ever against naming policy to use letters used in tehforeign? |
| 15:54.02 | |Jelly| | Forever! At least, well...in the consideration of others who, you know, don't want to look up every freaking alt-code out there. |
| 15:54.05 | Josh_Borke | (== myforeign?) |
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| 15:55.06 | Shirik | at least he's not doing it to me anymore >.> |
| 15:55.06 | cogwheel|work | yep. it's always been against the rules on US servers since most people in the US have no idea how to type them |
| 15:55.07 | Josh_Borke | at least he's not doing it to me anymore >.> |
| 15:55.11 | Shirik | well I don't even know that this guy is on a US server tbh |
| 15:55.14 | Shirik | then again I never localized RDX |
| 15:55.24 | Josh_Borke | well I don't even know that this guy is on a US server tbh |
| 15:55.28 | Josh_Borke | then again I never localized RDX |
| 15:55.46 | Shirik | cladhaire, how much do I have to pay you to +b Josh_Borke ? |
| 15:55.56 | Shirik | ooooh |
| 15:56.05 | Shirik | throw a d at him too |
| 15:56.07 | Shirik | wtf |
| 15:56.13 | Shirik | my client removed the unicodeness >.> |
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| 15:56.28 | Shirik | I BLIND YOU WITH MY INVERSENESS |
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| 15:56.50 | Shirik | match that. |
| 15:56.53 | Josh_Borke | I BLIND YOU WITH MY STUPIDITY |
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| 15:57.01 | Shirik | I declare myself winnar |
| 15:57.41 | Josh_Borke | ^-- declares himself loser |
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| 16:00.34 | Josh_Borke | :-( |
| 16:00.34 | Mikk | SIGH, josh couldn't be among those that split away, nooooo |
| 16:00.34 | Garoun | now look what phyber did |
| 16:00.34 | Josh_Borke | lol |
| 16:00.34 | Shirik | lol |
| 16:00.34 | Josh_Borke | lunch time |
| 16:00.34 | Josh_Borke | you've met a reprieve for now |
| 16:00.35 | Garoun | name changes are powerful things in irc :) |
| 16:00.35 | Josh_Borke | o.O |
| 16:00.50 | cladhaire | huhu |
| 16:00.51 | Josh_Borke | rofl |
| 16:01.06 | NotShirik | what happens when the net split ends? |
| 16:01.06 | cladhaire | nick collision, one of us gets booted off |
| 16:01.06 | Josh_Borke | what happens when the net split doesn't end? |
| 16:01.06 | nevcairiel | people rejoin |
| 16:01.06 | NotShirik | cladhaire's authenticated.... nick collision? |
| 16:01.07 | NotShirik | >.> |
| 16:01.07 | NotShirik | I meant with cladhaire |
| 16:01.07 | nevcairiel | Mikk gets booted |
| 16:01.07 | Josh_Borke | caldhaire's not authenticated.... nick collision? |
| 16:01.07 | Josh_Borke | <.< |
| 16:01.07 | |Jelly| | ownT |
| 16:01.07 | Josh_Borke | i meant without cladhaire |
| 16:01.25 | NotShirik | Josh_Borke should take this opportunity to steal my nick |
| 16:01.25 | NotShirik | I win. |
| 16:01.25 | cladhaire | hahahahahahahahaa |
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| 16:01.26 | Mikk | Can still ghost, I guess |
| 16:01.26 | Shirik | I'm really surprised you fell for that Jos |
| 16:01.26 | cladhaire | omfg =P |
| 16:02.37 | RealShirik | ok, really going to lunch now, bye |
| 16:02.37 | Shirik | I'm so confused now... |
| 16:02.37 | cladhaire | ok fine i've now officially lost track of who's who |
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| 16:02.38 | Shirik | that's the real cladhaire :P |
| 16:02.38 | nevcairiel | wonder what happens to Mikk now |
| 16:02.38 | Shirik | can tell by the clones |
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| 16:02.38 | cogwheel | Will the real cladhaire please ...... oh screw it |
| 16:02.38 | Shirik | imho /ns ghost |
| 16:02.39 | Shirik | do it! |
| 16:02.39 | cladhaire | :< |
| 16:02.39 | cladhaire_ | huh? |
| 16:02.40 | Shirik | yey |
| 16:02.40 | cladhaire_ | nickserv isn't responding |
| 16:02.40 | nevcairiel | lol |
| 16:02.40 | cladhaire_ | *shrug* |
| 16:02.40 | nevcairiel | you killed poor Mikk |
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| 16:02.40 | foxlit | it's /ns ghost nick password |
| 16:02.40 | cladhaire | wow. |
| 16:02.41 | cladhaire | no |
| 16:02.41 | cladhaire | i knew how to do it |
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| 16:04.49 | cladhaire | he wasn't responding. |
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| 16:04.50 | Mikk | damnit |
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| 16:04.50 | Shirik | just had a netsplit he was probably dealing with a ton of crap |
| 16:04.50 | Shirik | lol MaryQueenOfScots |
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| 16:04.51 | Mikk | keep your sticky hands off of me josh! |
| 16:04.51 | Mikk | o.O |
| 16:04.52 | TC-Working | ~moo |
| 16:04.58 | purl | mooooooooo! I am cow, hear me moo, I weigh twice as much as you. I am cow, eating grass, methane gas comes out my ass, or http://www.linuks.mine.nu/moo/ and http://www.riddleme.com/html/cow2.html |
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| 16:05.25 | |Jelly| | I <3 being invited to a group, being given leader and informed that I need to fill the rest of the group. |
| 16:05.28 | sedatedChipmunk | purl, botmail for Hyperchipmunk: Zzzzzzzzzz |
| 16:05.39 | Shirik | I refuse to lead pugs >< |
| 16:05.44 | Shirik | I can't handle it |
| 16:06.01 | |Jelly| | I let LFM do my bidding while I strafe the forums. : / |
| 16:06.22 | Mikk | Huhu. Auto add LFM ftlose |
| 16:06.50 | |Jelly| | While I completely agree with you, I don't like asking people in /whisper because well, that's lame. |
| 16:07.17 | Shirik | yup |
| 16:07.36 | Shirik | |Jelly|'s a priest, she knows.... getting spammed every 5 seconds with "Want to do x" "want to do y" "Want to run me through VC" sucks |
| 16:07.52 | |Jelly| | lol |
| 16:08.08 | |Jelly| | "Wanna run me through XXXX?" I made the mistake of running my guild through BRD for four days straight. |
| 16:08.11 | Shadowed | I though Jelly was a forum troll |
| 16:08.17 | Shirik | she is |
| 16:08.17 | |Jelly| | I love the guys...well...most of them. |
| 16:08.36 | |Jelly| | and how |
| 16:08.43 | Mikk | Jelly: I'm not advocating whispering J random <class>. Just using the LFM tool with auto-add disabled :> |
| 16:08.53 | Shadowed | Leading pugs is fun |
| 16:08.53 | Shirik | is there any such case where CHAT_MSG_MONSTER_YELL will not be fired, but you'll see the yell on your chat window? |
| 16:08.55 | Shirik | I don't think so |
| 16:08.57 | Shadowed | it's an excuse to yell at people |
| 16:09.01 | Mikk | I prefer picking my own group composition thankyouverymuch |
| 16:09.08 | Shadowed | A mod is blocking CHAT_MSG_MONSTER_YELL? |
| 16:09.13 | Shadowed | oh wait |
| 16:09.18 | Shadowed | How is that possible? |
| 16:09.19 | *** join/#wowi-lounge Cairenn (n=Cairenn@MMOI/Administratrix/Cairenn) |
| 16:09.19 | *** mode/#wowi-lounge [+o Cairenn] by ChanServ |
| 16:09.19 | Shirik | I would hope not :/ |
| 16:09.28 | Mikk | Shirik: It could come in as a different message type, conceivably |
| 16:09.29 | |Jelly| | I got booted from SFK last night on my druid. Apparently people don't like being told that "I'll do pretty much whatever I want." we lol'd at him as I ran them through on my shaman. : / |
| 16:09.30 | Shadowed | It only displays when CHAT_MSG_MONSTER_YELL |
| 16:09.30 | Mikk | _EMOTE, perhaps |
| 16:09.34 | Shirik | I can't figure out why my handler picks up this event only half the times |
| 16:09.41 | Shadowed | _EMOTE is middle of the screen |
| 16:09.42 | Shirik | nah I know it's CHAT_MSG_MONSTER_YELL |
| 16:09.59 | Shirik | I see the yell on my chat window every time |
| 16:10.04 | Cairenn | wait, what? |Jelly| is female? |
| 16:10.05 | Shirik | but the handler only picks it up every once in a while |
| 16:10.13 | Shadowed | yea you have competition now I guess Cairenn |
| 16:10.13 | Cairenn | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:10.13 | Shirik | I dunno, she has a female priest ^^; |
| 16:10.17 | Shirik | rofl |
| 16:10.26 | Shadowed | So do I, but i'm pretty sure i'm not female =p |
| 16:10.27 | Shadowed | bad assumintion |
| 16:10.31 | Shirik | so do I |
| 16:10.39 | Shirik | and I don't have a problem with you thinking I'm a female, half the server does :P |
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| 16:10.52 | |Jelly| | No, I'm not. But I'm way to used to people saying such things to get all riled up about it. |
| 16:10.58 | Cairenn | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:11.12 | |Jelly| | noooo |
| 16:11.13 | Shirik | she probably doesn't know what that means >< |
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| 16:11.35 | |Jelly| | inference |
| 16:11.42 | Cairenn | ;) |
| 16:11.43 | Shirik | channel mode +b is ban :P |
| 16:11.45 | zenzelezz | don't worry Cairenn, you'll always be our special girl |
| 16:11.49 | Cairenn | lol |
| 16:11.56 | Shirik | not if I don't get those posters! |
| 16:12.02 | Mikk | o.O |
| 16:12.15 | Shadowed | I'm sure you can find the BlizzCon image from last year |
| 16:12.16 | Cairenn | you guys know damn well I'm joking |
| 16:12.17 | Shirik | I'll just bring a camera to blizzcon |
| 16:12.23 | zenzelezz | posters are a mere convenience for a warrior of my skill! |
| 16:12.27 | Shirik | and make my own poster |
| 16:12.35 | |Jelly| | yay...I was taken from my PUG [leader] hell...to...PUG [non-leader] hell... |
| 16:12.41 | Shirik | I consider myself to be a decent photographer, though I tend to do landscapes |
| 16:12.50 | Shirik | I can adapt |
| 16:12.52 | Mikk | seriously though, i liked pugging with my healadin |
| 16:12.57 | |Jelly| | me too! Can't do people to save my life. |
| 16:12.58 | Mikk | just hang back and play whack-a-mole |
| 16:13.06 | Shadowed | Pugging is great on a Rogue |
| 16:13.14 | Shadowed | as soon as the Warrior dies, I vanish and get out of repair bill |
| 16:13.38 | Mikk | if you're playing a tank or cc, you have to try and save the group from the other people's fuckups |
| 16:13.38 | |Jelly| | hate rogues and huntards |
| 16:13.42 | |Jelly| | ...for that reason alone |
| 16:13.49 | Mikk | i hate mages now too btw |
| 16:13.53 | Mikk | bloody invis |
| 16:13.59 | |Jelly| | oh yeah...forgot about them |
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| 16:14.15 | Shirik | :( |
| 16:14.16 | Garoun | we had a mage that always tried to use invis to jump out of an encounter |
| 16:14.25 | |Jelly| | Does it make me an ass for, if it's their fault, i'll train on them before the wipe? |
| 16:14.26 | Shirik | It's true that most hunters are moron |
| 16:14.28 | Shadowed | I remember back during the BWL days, Firemaw learning was something like |
| 16:14.34 | Shirik | but there are some good ones out there >.> |
| 16:14.36 | Shadowed | Pull Firemaw, tank gets one shotted, "EVERYONE RUN" on TS |
| 16:14.36 | Garoun | problem was he use to do it at the first sign of trouble |
| 16:14.45 | Shadowed | Followed by 5 Rogues dancing around corpses |
| 16:14.50 | Mikk | hahaha |
| 16:14.56 | Garoun | so we'd make sure a mob aggroed on him after he went invis, to teach him to fight to the death |
| 16:15.02 | |Jelly| | lol |
| 16:15.13 | Garoun | he didn't pre-invis much after I got him smacked with a valet |
| 16:15.40 | Mikk | this is why you do not use misdirect for pulling |
| 16:15.50 | Mikk | gotta save it for invising mages and vanishing rogues |
| 16:15.53 | Shirik | haha |
| 16:16.08 | Shirik | They took away my rank 1 arcane shot though :( |
| 16:16.11 | Garoun | I don't mind people avoiding repair bills when we are absolutely wiping |
| 16:16.11 | Shirik | it used to crit for 1k |
| 16:16.18 | Shirik | now it crits for 100 |
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| 16:16.39 | Garoun | but now when we still have a chance and that gets thrown out the window from them invising early |
| 16:17.23 | Shadowed | Actually in TBC you have to save vanish until the very last second on bosses, so misdirect wont work |
| 16:18.17 | |Jelly| | omg! My computer's framerate is slow! Cog! What addons should I remove? *list* ?!? lol |
| 16:18.36 | |Jelly| | Sorry. |
| 16:18.47 | Shirik | do this |
| 16:18.54 | Garoun | or that |
| 16:19.04 | Shirik | a = function(a) coroutine.create(a) coroutine.resume(a, a); end a(a); |
| 16:19.13 | Shirik | that will cause all your problems to go away |
| 16:19.39 | Shirik | oh yeah /script in front of that |
| 16:19.39 | phyber | Garoun: :o |
| 16:19.39 | |Jelly| | *ponder* |
| 16:19.39 | Shirik | oops |
| 16:19.40 | Shirik | I mean |
| 16:19.42 | Garoun | hehe phyber, nice delay :) |
| 16:19.43 | Shirik | do /script a = function(a) a = coroutine.create(a) coroutine.resume(a, a); end a(a); |
| 16:19.44 | wobin | I actually successfully evade tanked a boss on my rogue for the first time |
| 16:19.51 | phyber | Garoun: was on my way home from work ;) |
| 16:19.52 | wobin | I was quite happy with myself for that achievement =) |
| 16:20.22 | Garoun | yeah, I'm on my laptop, and the other name is my pc in the other room |
| 16:20.22 | |Jelly| | You shouldn't tell me things like that, Shirik; I'll post them... |
| 16:20.22 | foxlit | a = function(a) b = coroutine.wrap(a); b(a); end a(a); --? |
| 16:20.35 | Shirik | ah |
| 16:20.38 | Shirik | a = function(a) coroutine.wrap(a)(a) end a(a); |
| 16:21.06 | Shirik | yeah both what foxlit said and what I said will work :) |
| 16:21.14 | |Jelly| | lol |
| 16:21.19 | Shirik | try it :D |
| 16:21.28 | |Jelly| | I'm good, thanks. |
| 16:21.39 | Garoun | uninstall woudl be just effective wouldn't it |
| 16:21.47 | Shirik | it doesn't cause any permanent damage :P |
| 16:22.20 | foxlit | Well, this one time, on 2.0, I couldn't log in as my character because it was already logged in :P |
| 16:22.23 | |Jelly| | If you tell people to uninstall, they get all uproared about how you're a moron or an idiot however, I would imagine people would blindly input that without question. : / |
| 16:22.27 | foxlit | True story. |
| 16:22.49 | Shirik | it's true |
| 16:22.50 | foxlit | Persisted for like 15 minutes |
| 16:23.01 | |Jelly| | "zomg! this will fix my framerate issues?!?" yeah... |
| 16:23.01 | Shirik | foxlit: That'sn ot too bad |
| 16:23.12 | foxlit | It's supposed to be fixed, dammit! |
| 16:23.16 | Shirik | I once was stuck for about 10 hours |
| 16:23.21 | Shirik | but this was before they made that stupid patch |
| 16:23.25 | Shirik | I wanted to know what ForceQuit() does |
| 16:23.33 | |Jelly| | wow... that hasn't happened to me since EQ |
| 16:23.38 | Shirik | so I logged on my alt, and went up to him, he's standing there in ironforge |
| 16:23.41 | Shirik | I wave to him |
| 16:23.44 | nevcairiel | When people complain about bad performance, i tell them to remove SWS and KTM an alike, and they say "no i need it", then i generally tell them to at least try it once with the addons disabled, generally they keep them off because it really has an impact on their performance |
| 16:23.45 | Garoun | DAOC use to have that problem |
| 16:24.09 | Shirik | nevcairiel: I've seen the insane amount of addon messages KTM uses |
| 16:24.12 | Shirik | I'm not surprised |
| 16:24.17 | |Jelly| | I use both SWS and KTM (I know...I fail at...everything) and don't have any issues : / |
| 16:24.24 | nevcairiel | KTM uses onupdate polling instead of events |
| 16:24.30 | Shirik | oh god |
| 16:24.33 | Shadowed | it's better in a raid scenario |
| 16:24.46 | Shirik | yeah I haven't actually tried to read too much of KTM's code |
| 16:24.53 | Shirik | I read it for a few minutes got blinded |
| 16:25.07 | Shirik | I then quickly wrote RDX.ResetRaidThreat() and RDX.SetKTMTarget() and never went back to the code again |
| 16:25.08 | Shadowed | the flaw in it is the fact that it doesn't turn polling off, but it's not a bad method when you have a lot of events happening at once |
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| 16:25.30 | nevcairiel | i had it running a while ago to actually see where our DDs generally get with their threat |
| 16:25.34 | Mikk | Shadowed: you're assuming that he does it in any way that's even remotely approaching sane |
| 16:25.36 | nevcairiel | but i removed it again, since i am a healer |
| 16:25.44 | |Jelly| | oh noes! Our tank left because...we didn't summon fast enough... |
| 16:25.49 | nevcairiel | lol |
| 16:25.49 | Mikk | Have you seen the comparisons of KTM vs Threat? |
| 16:25.59 | Mikk | We're talking a scale of 20-100 times more CPU usage in KTM |
| 16:26.06 | foxlit | Both should perish :( |
| 16:26.08 | Shadowed | Care to point out where I said he did it in a good way? ;) |
| 16:26.13 | Mikk | :P |
| 16:26.19 | nevcairiel | i agree with foxlit |
| 16:26.25 | nevcairiel | people should learn to play without that |
| 16:26.37 | Shadowed | Polling is better if implemented correctly, and it's not very hard to do either |
| 16:26.38 | Shirik | btw |Jelly| bug #4 http://www.lua.org/bugs.html#5.1.2 |
| 16:26.48 | Shirik | Our very own foxlit found that one :D |
| 16:26.57 | Shirik | Then I spent the next hour in Visual Studio debugging it >.> |
| 16:27.02 | nevcairiel | lol |
| 16:27.04 | Shadowed | Turn it off after no threat messages for 10-20 seconds, problem solved |
| 16:27.40 | TS|Skrom | wish I could fix this user's stupid outlook problem so I could start writing my addon today >< |
| 16:27.52 | |Jelly| | "learn to play without it" lol...I'm a holy priest, that's not a problem. I think it's funny to berate people who are below me and are dps/tanks. |
| 16:28.02 | wobin | It's true |
| 16:28.19 | Shadowed | Healers should never need a threat meter |
| 16:28.38 | Shirik | we had a healer pull threat on Vael once ^^ |
| 16:28.38 | nevcairiel | i run damage meters for harassing the stupid players =P |
| 16:28.41 | |Jelly| | Who says we need it? |
| 16:28.43 | nevcairiel | lol |
| 16:28.44 | Shirik | well not quite pull threat, what happened was |
| 16:28.45 | Shadowed | threat numbers for healing are inaccurate, and should never be an issue as long as you don't GHeal 0.1s into the fight =p |
| 16:28.55 | Shadowed | MT engaged, he landed a large heal before he sundered? =p |
| 16:28.55 | Shirik | first tank did his 45s run |
| 16:29.04 | Mikk | It's fully possible to pull aggro on Vael for a healer |
| 16:29.11 | Shirik | second tank sucked |
| 16:29.13 | Mikk | +heal gear, pop trinkets, spam PoH |
| 16:29.14 | Shirik | Kanna pulled |
| 16:29.17 | |Jelly| | wait? what? I can't gheal while he's pulling so it hits the second he hits the mob? |
| 16:29.26 | Mikk | hehehe |
| 16:29.28 | nevcairiel | you can when your hunter is good |
| 16:29.32 | nevcairiel | and misdirects |
| 16:29.36 | zenzelezz | I remember BWL |
| 16:29.38 | Shirik | this was before 2.0 :P |
| 16:29.41 | zenzelezz | "STOP BUFFING" |
| 16:29.45 | Shirik | haha |
| 16:29.46 | Shirik | yeah |
| 16:29.46 | nevcairiel | heh |
| 16:29.53 | nevcairiel | on flamegore.. |
| 16:29.58 | Shirik | they would get mad if I even did a hunter mark |
| 16:30.02 | Shirik | while he's running in |
| 16:30.03 | Mikk | @vael: "DONT GO YET, I NEED TO DRINK UP MY MANA FFS" |
| 16:30.07 | nevcairiel | "pulling" "i need sdk" *buff* *aggro |
| 16:30.09 | Shadowed | lol |
| 16:30.24 | foxlit | sdk? |
| 16:30.26 | |Jelly| | <3 "Shield me so I can pull" |
| 16:30.30 | nevcairiel | bok |
| 16:30.32 | nevcairiel | for english :p |
| 16:30.34 | Shirik | if anyone ever says that to me |
| 16:30.41 | Shirik | I will kick them |
| 16:30.41 | Shadowed | Having the bomb hide in his corpse was fun |
| 16:30.47 | Shirik | or if they say to shield the tank while running in |
| 16:30.49 | Shadowed | "Vael has died.", *everyone runs up to corpse*, 5 people die |
| 16:30.53 | nevcairiel | lol |
| 16:30.56 | Mikk | hahahaha |
| 16:31.06 | Shadowed | same with Thaddius |
| 16:31.06 | zenzelezz | Shadowed: we had a different way about it |
| 16:31.09 | nevcairiel | we used to nearly wipe on thaddius, yeah |
| 16:31.13 | foxlit | Thaddius = greatest thing ever :) |
| 16:31.15 | zenzelezz | *Vael dies* RUN AWAY FROM CRAZY |
| 16:31.16 | Shadowed | everyone tried to spread out, and 3-4 of us killed eachother trying to run |
| 16:31.24 | zenzelezz | Crazyannus would always try to blow up the raid afterwards |
| 16:31.39 | nevcairiel | thaddius was mean, when your buff expired a second early, you would get hit by others with the buff |
| 16:31.41 | nevcairiel | sucked :( |
| 16:31.54 | Shadowed | never had that happen |
| 16:31.55 | Mikk | and now we get to relive it with every heroic mecha! \o/ |
| 16:32.00 | nevcairiel | hehe |
| 16:32.12 | nevcairiel | mecha was my first heroic ever |
| 16:32.23 | Mikk | i usually go cat&dash when the boss dies |
| 16:32.25 | nevcairiel | afterwards i was hoping that some other encounter had more changes in heroic |
| 16:32.28 | Mikk | always some bugger that wants to kill meh :S |
| 16:32.30 | zenzelezz | I've not yet done heroic Mechanar; but I've heard about that... what does the tank do? Just stay away from everyone? |
| 16:32.31 | nevcairiel | but nothing |
| 16:32.49 | Shadowed | mech is fun cause I get to level throwing skill |
| 16:32.50 | foxlit | Charges on Mech? |
| 16:32.50 | Mikk | zenzelezz: just stand with people with equal charge |
| 16:32.59 | foxlit | Just two groups - one positive, one negative |
| 16:33.03 | nevcairiel | yea |
| 16:33.11 | Mikk | and split up as he's shooting a new charge out |
| 16:33.15 | nevcairiel | dont even try spreading completly, you need the dmg boost =P |
| 16:33.20 | nevcairiel | thats what we learned the first day |
| 16:33.51 | Mikk | i usually try walking him up the stairs real slow and leave the bombs floating behind also |
| 16:33.53 | Mikk | rogues hate me :< |
| 16:34.00 | nevcairiel | we do the same |
| 16:34.05 | nevcairiel | no dagger rogue friendly boss |
| 16:34.08 | Mikk | no :> |
| 16:34.28 | nevcairiel | plus no one moves to them to share the charge |
| 16:34.43 | Shadowed | mutilate rogues are screwed on him |
| 16:35.07 | Mikk | our mut rogue actually got 2 people to stand with him |
| 16:35.18 | Mikk | i heard him scream "BIG NUMBERS! BIG FUCKING NUMBERS!" before he went flat |
| 16:35.22 | nevcairiel | lol |
| 16:35.24 | Shadowed | rofl |
| 16:35.26 | zenzelezz | one of our tanks always positioned the huge Anubisath Defenders (or whatever they were called) by the entrance of AQ40 so no rogue could get behind them |
| 16:35.55 | nevcairiel | ah AQ40 .. i always hated that instance |
| 16:35.58 | nevcairiel | altho cthun was fun |
| 16:36.19 | Shadowed | I'd just run them around in circles |
| 16:36.19 | zenzelezz | I just wish my guild had gotten further in Naxxramas |
| 16:36.55 | nevcairiel | we were on the four horsemen, but never killed |
| 16:37.30 | Shadowed | 4H were fun |
| 16:37.37 | Shadowed | watching Rogues die to lady |
| 16:38.08 | zenzelezz | we cleared spider wing but only took first boss in the other wings |
| 16:38.11 | Shadowed | killing zeklwhatever with 2 hunters cause all the ranged sucked! |
| 16:38.27 | zenzelezz | Zeliek? |
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| 16:38.31 | nevcairiel | i hope we get to black temple soon |
| 16:38.34 | zenzelezz | the guy with the wuss voice? |
| 16:38.40 | nevcairiel | but i dont think its any "soon" |
| 16:38.44 | Shadowed | he's the guy who chains the holy thing |
| 16:40.05 | Shirik | wtf |
| 16:40.08 | Shirik | norton is slacking today |
| 16:40.19 | Shirik | I copy a virus to my computer intentionally and it's all like "ok cool" |
| 16:40.27 | Shadowed | people use Norton still? |
| 16:40.33 | Shirik | forced to >.> |
| 16:40.38 | Shirik | If I don't have it installed I can't connect to the network |
| 16:40.42 | Shirik | fricking CCA |
| 16:40.43 | nevcairiel | hehe |
| 16:40.44 | Shirik | CAA* |
| 16:41.42 | End | Clean Access? |
| 16:41.48 | Shirik | yeah |
| 16:41.58 | zenzelezz | I remember our old LAN parties... copying around Eicar Tst String to shared folders |
| 16:42.03 | zenzelezz | *Test |
| 16:42.22 | Mikk | hehe |
| 16:42.26 | Mikk | OMG I GOT EICAR VIRUS! |
| 16:42.34 | End | hehe |
| 16:42.51 | nevcairiel | pasting in irc chats was fun too, on clients which instantly save logs. |
| 16:43.00 | zenzelezz | haha |
| 16:43.14 | Mikk | oooooh |
| 16:43.51 | Mikk | X5O!P%@AP[4\PZX54(P^)7CC)7}$EICAR-STANDARD-ANTIVIRUS-TEST-FILE!$H+H* |
| 16:43.58 | nevcairiel | there was a pretty small one involving formt c: with the dont-bother-me and quick modifiers, and some other stuff, and norton would pick it up |
| 16:44.33 | End | hmm, apparently I -do- have a virus scanner running on this machine |
| 16:44.44 | Mikk | grats :-P |
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| 16:45.19 | End | irc is running on another machine, but for fun I pasted the string into a file locally |
| 16:45.22 | End | and my file disappeared |
| 16:45.28 | nevcairiel | hehe |
| 16:46.14 | nevcairiel | hm that reminds me, i wonder if MS fixed the bug in the UTF8 handler |
| 16:46.32 | zenzelezz | is doing "frame.Show = function() end;" a bad way to prevent a non-interactive frame from showing? |
| 16:47.10 | foxlit | Well, ask yourself this question: |
| 16:47.12 | End | what do you mean non-interactive? |
| 16:47.13 | foxlit | OtherFrame.Show(frame) |
| 16:47.25 | Shirik | zenzelezz: Yes :P: |
| 16:47.29 | Shirik | Why, what do you need to do? |
| 16:47.37 | zenzelezz | I'm a nub about these things, thus I ask |
| 16:47.43 | Shirik | for example |
| 16:47.49 | End | Why do you want to prevent it from being shown? |
| 16:47.49 | Shirik | to stop the blizz party frames from showing |
| 16:47.54 | End | ahh |
| 16:47.56 | Shirik | I don't do PartyMemberFrame1.Show = function() end |
| 16:47.58 | Shirik | I do... |
| 16:48.02 | zenzelezz | I'm adding a cast bar, mostly copying the target frame one, but don't want the Flash and Border textures to show |
| 16:48.04 | foxlit | I killed by blocking show :P |
| 16:48.17 | zenzelezz | but the CastingBarFrameTemplate calls Show() on them somewhere in its code |
| 16:48.17 | foxlit | Also unregister events or something |
| 16:48.22 | Shirik | f:UnregisterEvent("RAID_ROSTER_UPDATE"); |
| 16:48.22 | Shirik | f:UnregisterEvent("PARTY_MEMBERS_CHANGED"); |
| 16:48.22 | Shirik | f:UnregisterEvent("PLAYER_ENTERING_WORLD"); |
| 16:48.22 | Shirik | f:UnregisterEvent("UNIT_PET"); |
| 16:48.31 | zenzelezz | can't unregister the offending event, I need the rest of the code to run |
| 16:48.59 | nevcairiel | register for the event and hide it again =P |
| 16:49.00 | Shadowed | PartyMemberFrame1:HookScript( "OnShow", function() this:OnHide(); end ); |
| 16:49.07 | Shadowed | =p |
| 16:49.16 | Shirik | that would be a better solution, ya |
| 16:49.26 | Shadowed | "better"? |
| 16:49.27 | Shirik | can't you do this:Hide() though? |
| 16:49.28 | foxlit | Shadowed |
| 16:49.28 | Shadowed | mines "the best" |
| 16:49.30 | foxlit | Watch this! |
| 16:49.31 | Shadowed | err |
| 16:49.33 | Shadowed | Hide not OnHide |
| 16:49.36 | Shirik | :P |
| 16:49.43 | foxlit | PartyMemberFrame1:HookScript( "OnHide", function(self) self:Show() end ); |
| 16:49.50 | Shadowed | mines better |
| 16:49.51 | foxlit | C stack overflow! |
| 16:49.54 | cladhaire | this == bad |
| 16:49.56 | cladhaire | h8 |
| 16:49.57 | nevcairiel | with self its better |
| 16:49.59 | Shirik | oh yeah |
| 16:49.59 | nevcairiel | :) |
| 16:50.00 | Shirik | this == bad |
| 16:50.01 | Shadowed | but i'm lazy |
| 16:50.03 | Shirik | self! |
| 16:50.05 | Shadowed | THIS |
| 16:50.06 | Shirik | Not this! |
| 16:50.12 | nevcairiel | you can even name the var this! |
| 16:50.13 | cladhaire | this is a global |
| 16:50.14 | cladhaire | self is a local |
| 16:50.15 | nevcairiel | if you want |
| 16:50.16 | cladhaire | h8 |
| 16:50.28 | cladhaire | same number of letters |
| 16:50.38 | End | try setting .showCastbar to a false value |
| 16:50.39 | Shadowed | not if you include function(self) |
| 16:50.57 | Shirik | End: Wouldn't that result in a huge taint? |
| 16:51.07 | Shirik | I don't know how it's used I'm just throwing that out there |
| 16:51.13 | End | why? |
| 16:51.18 | End | castbar doesn't do anything secure |
| 16:51.26 | Shirik | oh |
| 16:51.27 | Shirik | true :/ |
| 16:51.28 | End | it just shows a progress bar |
| 16:51.29 | foxlit | Ah |
| 16:51.33 | foxlit | CastingBarFrame:SetScript("OnEvent", function() end); |
| 16:51.36 | Shirik | it would still be insecure! :P |
| 16:51.38 | Shirik | I wasn't wrong |
| 16:51.43 | Shirik | it just doesn't matter |
| 16:51.51 | End | I meant, why do you care |
| 16:51.52 | Shadowed | Wouldn't SetScript( "OnEvent", nil ) do the same thing |
| 16:51.53 | End | :P |
| 16:52.03 | zenzelezz | like I said, I need all of the event apart from the Texture:Show() |
| 16:52.10 | foxlit | Yes, but now I get the added overhead of a function call at no extra cost! |
| 16:52.16 | foxlit | My kill-the-blizzard-party-frames-code is awesome |
| 16:52.25 | nevcairiel | hehe |
| 16:52.26 | End | zenzelezz: CastingBarFrame.showCastbar = false |
| 16:52.34 | foxlit | Featuring such blatant hackery as: |
| 16:52.38 | foxlit | ShowPartyFrame = function() end; |
| 16:52.41 | foxlit | and |
| 16:52.45 | foxlit | PartyMemberFrame_UpdateMember = function() end; |
| 16:52.46 | Shirik | local fn = function() Frame:HookScript("OnEvent", fn); end Frame:SetScript("OnEvent", fn); |
| 16:52.48 | Shirik | I win. |
| 16:52.50 | zenzelezz | End: won't that stop *all* of the bar from showing? I only want to remove the Flash and Border |
| 16:52.59 | End | oh |
| 16:53.00 | End | sorry |
| 16:53.03 | End | I didn't realize |
| 16:53.26 | End | you could set their globals to nil I think |
| 16:53.35 | End | but I'm not sure if that is the right way |
| 16:53.42 | End | (or rename them would be less retarded) |
| 16:53.46 | Shirik | and then every time they try to do frame:Show() you get 'Attempt to index a global variable' |
| 16:53.53 | Shirik | er |
| 16:53.57 | Shirik | attempt to index nil |
| 16:54.02 | zenzelezz | I seem to get a "nil" when trying to call HookScript on the texture... I may just do it the dirty way and SetTexture() |
| 16:54.34 | End | Shirik: are you sure about that? :P |
| 16:54.44 | Shirik | think about it ;) |
| 16:54.50 | End | look at the code |
| 16:54.55 | End | and then tell me to think about it |
| 16:55.05 | Shirik | what exactly are we talking about? The cast bar frame? |
| 16:55.08 | End | yes |
| 16:55.55 | foxlit | Hm |
| 16:55.59 | foxlit | <Shirik> local fn = function() Frame:HookScript("OnEvent", fn); end Frame:SetScript("OnEvent", fn); |
| 16:56.08 | Shirik | like it? |
| 16:56.11 | foxlit | I'm not sure if that HookScript() would pick up on fn |
| 16:56.20 | Shirik | hm |
| 16:56.23 | Shirik | ok change it to |
| 16:56.26 | Shirik | local fn; fn = |
| 16:56.35 | Shirik | but I think it should |
| 16:56.43 | Shirik | I've done local recursion before I think |
| 16:57.20 | End | (namely, it the CastingBarFrame code is intended to work with frames -other- than CastingBarFrame, so it checks to see if Spark, Text, Flash and Icon exist for that frame name) |
| 16:57.41 | zenzelezz | bordertexture:SetTexture(0, 0, 0, 0); turned out to be the easiest way to solve this |
| 16:58.14 | zenzelezz | but thanks for the suggestions ;) |
| 16:58.23 | Shirik | End: I just died looking at the code :( |
| 16:58.26 | Shirik | too many "this" |
| 17:00.00 | cladhaire | this this this this this |
| 17:00.05 | cladhaire | do yo use arg1 too? |
| 17:00.58 | Shirik | unfortunately |
| 17:01.10 | Shirik | I haven't yet updated VFLEvent:NamedBind() to use locals instead of globals -_- |
| 17:01.12 | Shirik | that's my next project |
| 17:02.27 | Shirik | cladhaire http://www.wowinterface.com/forums/showthread.php?p=55748#post55748 ? |
| 17:02.30 | Shirik | This isn't the first time I've heard of this either |
| 17:02.43 | RealShirik | This is the first time I've heard of this neither |
| 17:03.41 | cladhaire | Shirik: do you have support for click-casting in RDX? |
| 17:03.43 | cladhaire | i thought you had added it. |
| 17:03.46 | Shirik | I do |
| 17:03.55 | cladhaire | does it work? |
| 17:04.04 | Shirik | it's worked for about 6 months now :) |
| 17:04.05 | TC-Working | lol |
| 17:04.17 | cladhaire | k.. so what should i say/do? |
| 17:04.20 | cladhaire | i'm confused. |
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| 17:04.27 | Shirik | I dunno >< |
| 17:04.42 | TC-Working | his question is, will they clash...will they? |
| 17:04.45 | Shirik | see, I've gotten a report before that Clique doesn't like RDX, though I haven't tested it myself. Let me test first and get back to you ;) |
| 17:04.49 | cladhaire | I can't answer that |
| 17:04.52 | cladhaire | Clique just works |
| 17:04.58 | cladhaire | it uses the stadnard for click-casting i came up with in alpha |
| 17:05.08 | cladhaire | so as long as it respects ClickCastFrames then we should be fine. |
| 17:05.08 | Shirik | .. |
| 17:05.11 | Shirlk | .. |
| 17:05.31 | Mikma | boys, just wanna have fun now |
| 17:06.55 | TC-Working | damit, now that song is stuck in my head |
| 17:07.04 | cladhaire | Shirik: hrm? |
| 17:07.05 | TC-Working | i hope your happy Mikma |
| 17:07.15 | *** kick/#wowi-lounge [Shirik!n=cladhair@WoWUIDev/WoWI/Featured/Dongle/cladhaire] by cladhaire (cladhaire) |
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| 17:07.18 | Shirik | :( |
| 17:07.21 | cladhaire | lol |
| 17:07.21 | Shirik | what did I do T_T |
| 17:07.23 | Shirlk | lol |
| 17:07.39 | cladhaire | you .. me =) |
| 17:07.45 | TC-Working | ADMIN ABUSE!!! |
| 17:07.49 | cladhaire | whats ur deal |
| 17:07.52 | foxlit | Don't you concat cladhaire! |
| 17:07.53 | Shirik | it's ok, autojoin > cladhaire |
| 17:08.01 | Shirlk | lol claddy waddy |
| 17:08.01 | *** kick/#wowi-lounge [TC-Working!n=cladhair@WoWUIDev/WoWI/Featured/Dongle/cladhaire] by cladhaire (admin abuse my ass) |
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| 17:08.05 | Shirik | lol. |
| 17:08.07 | TC-Working | lolz |
| 17:08.37 | Shirik | how to install clique?!?!?! |
| 17:08.46 | cladhaire | uhh |
| 17:08.52 | cladhaire | you download it |
| 17:08.52 | Shirik | :P |
| 17:08.55 | cladhaire | and put it in your addons directory |
| 17:08.58 | Shirik | I'm just messing ^^; |
| 17:09.45 | Shirlk | but it's not showing up on my addon list!!!111oneoneone |
| 17:09.58 | |Jelly| | my addons button isn't showing up!!! |
| 17:10.00 | cladhaire | i h8 |
| 17:10.19 | Shirlk | damn it |
| 17:10.23 | Shirlk | 13:10:21 » [notice from NickServ]: Please wait 120 seconds before using REGISTER again |
| 17:10.26 | Josh_Borke | lol |
| 17:10.40 | Josh_Borke | don't forget Shir1k |
| 17:10.44 | Shirlk | I giveu p |
| 17:10.54 | Shirik | 13:10:50 » [notice from NickServ]: This nickname is owned by someone else |
| 17:10.57 | Shirik | -_- |
| 17:12.09 | Shirik | ha |
| 17:12.16 | Shirik | flash heal rank 1 crits for 600 |
| 17:12.17 | Shirik | hot |
| 17:12.27 | Shirik | clique however overrides RDX |
| 17:12.32 | Shirik | which I guess isn't really a bad thing |
| 17:12.43 | cladhaire | yeah clique doesn't check |
| 17:12.44 | cladhaire | it should |
| 17:12.45 | cladhaire | hehe |
| 17:13.06 | Shirik | however if nothing's bound by clique it uses what RDX wants, which I think is ok :) |
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| 17:13.30 | cladhaire | even when you rebind left click, rightclick |
| 17:13.31 | cladhaire | does it work? |
| 17:14.08 | Shirik | you mean if I bind something in clique then change the click casting in rdx? |
| 17:14.16 | cladhaire | yeah |
| 17:14.20 | cladhaire | weird stuff like that |
| 17:14.21 | cladhaire | *shrugs8 |
| 17:14.35 | Shirik | yuck -_- |
| 17:14.57 | Shirik | yeah it takes the most recent >.> wonder what happens on a relog |
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| 17:18.14 | |Jelly| | Question. |
| 17:18.25 | cogwheel | Answer. |
| 17:18.26 | |Jelly| | "12:16:58 [P]<Beenzer> guys one sec, need a 420 moment before this shit begins" <-why do people announce? |
| 17:18.54 | Shirik | so clique gets priority until someone changes something rdx-side, which gets handled until a relog I guess |
| 17:19.04 | cladhaire | k k |
| 17:19.08 | cladhaire | shrug |
| 17:19.12 | cladhaire | they should only us eone either way |
| 17:19.13 | cogwheel | Maybe thinks it makes 'em look cool? |
| 17:19.21 | TC-Working | damit cog beat mne to it |
| 17:19.25 | TC-Working | me* |
| 17:19.28 | Shirik | do you think there's a place in clique I can hook to have it ignore rdx frames? |
| 17:19.34 | |Jelly| | Don't bring logic into this! |
| 17:19.46 | cladhaire | Shirik: You can blacklist the frames |
| 17:19.48 | cladhaire | but that's a bad idea |
| 17:19.51 | cladhaire | the user should decide that |
| 17:19.58 | cogwheel | .... because they're already half-baked and forget that it's probably not the best thing to say? |
| 17:20.00 | cladhaire | and frankly, RDX should bow if Clique exists |
| 17:20.04 | |Jelly| | haha |
| 17:20.07 | cogwheel | (damn... that one's logical too :( ) |
| 17:20.17 | Shirik | I would prefer to use clique, tbh |
| 17:20.26 | cladhaire | well thats what I mean |
| 17:20.28 | |Jelly| | Can you integrate? |
| 17:20.28 | Shirik | let me rephrase that |
| 17:20.32 | TC-Working | bundle clique with rdx thern |
| 17:20.33 | Shirik | I would prefer rdx use clique, not myself use it |
| 17:20.35 | TC-Working | then* |
| 17:20.37 | cogwheel | I'd rather hear about 420 than .... other things .... |
| 17:20.46 | Shirik | nah, I'd like to keep it the way it is |
| 17:20.50 | cladhaire | Shirik: the only way to do that is OptDep |
| 17:20.56 | cladhaire | i think we're fine |
| 17:20.57 | cladhaire | *shrug* |
| 17:21.26 | Shirik | I'd like to keep it the way it is for the people that don't want to install clique, but allow RDX to "bow if clique exists" |
| 17:21.35 | Mikma | TC-Working: sorry bout that, i can get it out of your head easily too: http://youtube.com/watch?v=fbGkxcY7YFU |
| 17:21.36 | cladhaire | yes |
| 17:21.39 | cladhaire | this is what makes sense |
| 17:21.56 | Shirik | VFL.conflict() can handle that :) |
| 17:22.53 | |Jelly| | i love mage water |
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| 17:25.26 | TC-Working | Mikma, thats not stiking in my head....or in other parts of me |
| 17:25.55 | Mikma | hmm.. then i need to find something better. |
| 17:26.09 | Mikma | TC-Working: http://mikma.reaktio.net/sekret/Mahadeva.mp3 |
| 17:26.39 | Mikma | mahadeva ain't that bad :O |
| 17:26.59 | Mikma | oh now i know... |
| 17:27.00 | TC-Working | it's not the music...it's just you :) |
| 17:27.13 | Mikma | TC-Working: http://mikma.reaktio.net/sekret/Clint_Mansell_-_Requiem_For_A_Dream.mp3 |
| 17:27.39 | Mikma | now i got that one stuck in my head |
| 17:27.55 | TC-Working | hmm...mahadeva is like listening to era/enigma/enya |
| 17:27.59 | cogwheel | I've had various TMBG songs stuck in my head for the last week or so... |
| 17:28.05 | cladhaire | <3 tmbg |
| 17:28.21 | |Jelly| | People that don't release after a wipe need to burn in hell. |
| 17:28.29 | TC-Working | tmbg's retared song always gets stuck in my head |
| 17:28.42 | |Jelly| | Sorry. Had to get that out. |
| 17:28.52 | Mikma | TC-Working: http://www.astral-projection.com/ the artist of Mahadeva |
| 17:29.05 | cogwheel | TC-Working: their not retarded ones do too :P |
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| 17:29.28 | TC-Working | no cogwheel, i mean the song 'retard' |
| 17:30.13 | TC-Working | thanks Mikma, i'll take a look at that |
| 17:30.32 | Shirik | cladhaire: For now, selecting "nothing" under rdx configuration for click casting gives clique free reign :) |
| 17:30.38 | cladhaire | perfect |
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| 17:30.44 | cladhaire | thats the best decision imo |
| 17:30.50 | Shirik | not really a decision :P |
| 17:30.52 | Shirik | it already existed |
| 17:31.00 | cladhaire | i mean for the user |
| 17:31.07 | Shirik | I agree |
| 17:31.08 | cogwheel | it's a decision not to proceed with any further investigation :P |
| 17:33.30 | TC-Working | lazy bastards |
| 17:33.42 | cogwheel | Real life Happosai http://www.reuters.com/article/oddlyEnoughNews/idUST12044520070601?feedType=RSS |
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| 17:35.46 | Lunessa | ? Can I ask a total n00b question - where exactly do I go to register? |
| 17:35.49 | kergoth | cladhaire, is there an official upstream source for the current version of DongleFrames? |
| 17:35.56 | cogwheel | Lunessa: /msg nickserv help |
| 17:36.12 | cladhaire | kergoth: there isn't.. its just kinda been thrown in two addons |
| 17:36.20 | cladhaire | it'll become official rather soon, however |
| 17:36.22 | kergoth | hehe, k |
| 17:36.24 | kergoth | figured |
| 17:36.25 | cladhaire | I pushed it out before Tem was ready to have it go =) |
| 17:36.31 | cladhaire | its fun tho |
| 17:36.34 | zenzelezz | so I want to test my target castbar... and every single person around me in Aldor bank is doing nothing |
| 17:36.43 | zenzelezz | I ride outside Shattrath, and all the mobs do instant spells |
| 17:36.47 | cogwheel | target yourself? |
| 17:36.49 | cogwheel | :P |
| 17:36.51 | zenzelezz | too easy |
| 17:38.10 | Tem|Work | I did it as a goof off session one afternoon |
| 17:38.14 | kergoth | cladhaire, finally dropped cartographer_questobjectives in my addon set in favor of lightheaded, and the cart waypoints stuff in favor of tomtom :) good stuff you've got there |
| 17:38.17 | Tem|Work | and then they started using it in addons |
| 17:38.33 | cladhaire | kergoth: Thanks, working on cutting the compression out, and bracketing the quests by 20 level brackets to help LoD a bit more efficiently =) |
| 17:38.40 | kergoth | ah nice |
| 17:38.55 | cladhaire | and getting start/end npc coords, and xp/faction gains |
| 17:39.04 | cladhaire | have to decide how to do that, right now i'm just auto generating a "comment" for each quest |
| 17:44.38 | Mikma | <3 http://64.236.98.51:80/stream/1008 <3 |
| 17:45.02 | zenzelezz | doing the cast bars was disturbingly easy o_O |
| 17:46.15 | Shirik | RDX now defers click casting to clique :) |
| 17:46.41 | zenzelezz | you just like it because it sounds French |
| 17:50.36 | cogwheel | except that clad pronounces it Click |
| 17:50.49 | cladhaire | I'm american |
| 17:50.54 | cogwheel | so am I :P |
| 17:50.54 | cladhaire | that's how you pronounce it =) |
| 17:50.56 | cladhaire | nub |
| 17:51.22 | cogwheel | How do you pronounce unique? |
| 17:51.33 | |Jelly| | unik...duh |
| 17:51.34 | cogwheel | Uhnick? |
| 17:51.43 | Aella | you-nee-quay |
| 17:51.49 | Aella | =P |
| 17:52.11 | cladhaire | http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/clique |
| 17:52.15 | cladhaire | both are correct |
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| 17:53.22 | cladhaire | Beladona: hai wb |
| 17:53.22 | Lunessa | Americans, see... we get to mangle ANY language. It's our Divine Right |
| 17:53.50 | Beladona | hey |
| 17:53.51 | Aella | Ain't dat da truf. |
| 17:57.50 | TS|Skrom | it seems to me that if you want to trap the name of the spell that was just cast by the player then using UNIT_SPELLCAST_SENT would be a way to do it but not preferred since it would fire for every cast around you... |
| 17:58.03 | TS|Skrom | so are there other alternatives? |
| 17:58.07 | cladhaire | you can filter it |
| 17:58.08 | cladhaire | by unitid |
| 17:58.10 | cladhaire | "player" |
| 17:59.52 | TS|Skrom | I know I can filter what my addon does with the information but that's still a lot of events firing and my addon has to process each one (at least process arg1) |
| 17:59.52 | TS|Skrom | but that's not a big performance hit? |
| 17:59.52 | Aella | Nope. |
| 17:59.52 | cladhaire | nope |
| 17:59.52 | Shirik | there are much more complex comparisons going on every second |
| 17:59.53 | zenzelezz | think combat log parsers |
| 17:59.53 | cogwheel | and don't use arg1 :P |
| 17:59.53 | TS|Skrom | okay cool, I think I may be over analyzing again :D |
| 17:59.56 | Aella | Probably. =P |
| 17:59.57 | TS|Skrom | arg1 isn't unitid? |
| 18:00.08 | cogwheel | you shouldn't use the arg globals |
| 18:00.09 | Shirik | if it's global it's nothing but evil :P |
| 18:00.18 | Shirik | but there's nothing stopping you from naming your local arg1 >.> |
| 18:00.23 | TS|Skrom | ohhh no I was just referring to that as the first returned variable |
| 18:00.30 | cogwheel | good boy :) |
| 18:02.50 | Lunessa | In the land of AddOns there are ancient wisdoms that should be heeded by all; Understand Garbage Collection, Don't pollute the Global Names Space; don't hook when registering for the event will do. |
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| 18:02.53 | Shadowed | Does anyone have a screenshot of the default loot window with at least 1 gold of coin on it? |
| 18:03.11 | Aella | Why, text format? |
| 18:03.27 | Shadowed | Yea |
| 18:03.41 | Aella | You have it for silver? |
| 18:03.52 | Shadowed | yep |
| 18:04.04 | Aella | I'm 99% positive it's "1 gold 13 silver 45 copper" |
| 18:04.20 | Shirik | Ha! |
| 18:04.21 | Shadowed | "<num> Silver\n<num> Copper" so i assume it's just "<num> Gold\n<num> Silver\n<num> Copper" but wanted to make sure |
| 18:04.35 | Shirik | Found this comment... -- The shaman is the <censored> child of RDX. |
| 18:04.40 | Shadowed | lol |
| 18:04.44 | Aella | Bwahaha. |
| 18:04.46 | Aella | In what context? |
| 18:04.50 | Shirik | since it was written initially for only one guild I guess shaman didn't exist initially |
| 18:04.53 | Shirik | it's a filters window |
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| 18:05.02 | Shirik | where you enable/disable certain classes from being shown |
| 18:05.29 | Aella | Ah, of course. |
| 18:05.48 | Aella | cogwheel: probably because it's the only time money and items are shown as peers. |
| 18:05.49 | Shirik | Cidan cracks me up sometimes ^^ |
| 18:06.32 | Aella | And Stuff(tm) would've had to have been done to the money frame to make it look right. |
| 18:14.38 | Shadowed | Do they treat coins differently or something, GetLootSlotInfo is returning "" for it |
| 18:15.03 | Mikk | weird.. it should return the coin text |
| 18:15.27 | Shadowed | odd |
| 18:15.28 | Shadowed | it does |
| 18:15.34 | Shadowed | but when I enable the mod it doesn't |
| 18:15.46 | Mikk | o.O |
| 18:16.44 | Shadowed | and now it does |
| 18:16.46 | Shadowed | . |
| 18:16.48 | Shadowed | .. |
| 18:18.14 | Aella | The plot thickens! |
| 18:18.57 | Shadowed | bah |
| 18:19.53 | TS|Skrom | onUpdate requres a non virtual frame though it can be hidden... right? |
| 18:20.03 | Shirik | no |
| 18:20.12 | Shirik | a frame will not receive OnUpdate if it is not shown |
| 18:20.16 | Shirik | s/shown/visible/ |
| 18:20.37 | Shirik | however, what the UI considers "visible" and what a user considers "visible" are two different things |
| 18:20.40 | TS|Skrom | okay so you make a visible frame with no anchor |
| 18:20.45 | TS|Skrom | or no size |
| 18:20.51 | Shirik | or no texture |
| 18:21.08 | TS|Skrom | *nod* okay... jeez I hate relearning all this stuff I knew 6 months ago >< |
| 18:21.11 | cogwheel | f = CreateFrame("Frame") done |
| 18:25.10 | Lunessa | I love how people insist that they need an AddOn for default functions. |
| 18:25.21 | |Jelly| | But they do! |
| 18:25.27 | TS|Skrom | lol such as? |
| 18:25.34 | Beladona | play the game for me! kthx |
| 18:26.18 | cladhaire | Shirik: no.. Visible() is the exact same thing for both the user and the game |
| 18:26.24 | Lunessa | "Move the chat frame" "Hide error messages" "Hide player names" "show guilds in the tool tip" etc, so on and so forth... |
| 18:26.30 | Shirik | mm no |
| 18:26.39 | Shirik | if something doesn't have a texture, a player wouldn't see it |
| 18:26.40 | Shirik | but it's there |
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| 18:26.49 | cladhaire | yes |
| 18:26.55 | cladhaire | but that's hardly a discrepancy |
| 18:26.56 | zenzelezz | until recently hiding error messages and showing guilds in tooltips did need addons |
| 18:27.00 | Shirik | that's exactly what I was referring to |
| 18:27.05 | cladhaire | IsVisible() means the frame is shown, and all its parents are shown |
| 18:27.19 | cladhaire | IsShown() is where there is a clear discrepancy between the game and the real world. |
| 18:27.29 | Lunessa | I know. But, no one ever looks at the options. *sigh* |
| 18:27.35 | Shirik | right, but in the context of what I was saying |
| 18:27.49 | Shirik | he was trying to make a frame that receives OnUpdate but the player doesn't see |
| 18:27.55 | Shirik | I think what I said makes perfect sense |
| 18:28.11 | cladhaire | *shrug* |
| 18:28.12 | cladhaire | understoof |
| 18:28.15 | cladhaire | understood |
| 18:28.22 | cladhaire | i just think you're statement has wider implications than necessary |
| 18:28.36 | Beladona | I liked understoof better |
| 18:31.47 | Lunessa | Does anyone know if uiscale in config.wtf can be set to less that .6? |
| 18:32.17 | Lunessa | than... not that. |
| 18:33.39 | cogwheel | i'm pretty sure it clamps it at .64 or something |
| 18:33.49 | Lunessa | Ok. Thanks. :D |
| 18:38.31 | Garoun | Still haven't fixed that error with my g/fs pc cog :( |
| 18:38.40 | Shirik | you can't set your cvar to anything below .64 |
| 18:38.42 | Shirik | but |
| 18:38.47 | Shirik | UIParent:SetScale() works for any value |
| 18:39.17 | Garoun | been running both standard memtest and random probe for the last 15 hours, still no errors :P |
| 18:39.20 | TS|Skrom | someone give me some over the top cliche sayings taht a paladin would say when healing someone |
| 18:39.38 | Garoun | I think it's safe to say her memory is fine |
| 18:40.25 | Lunessa | "Out demons of stupidity! OUT I SAY!" |
| 18:41.00 | TS|Skrom | XD |
| 18:41.24 | |Jelly| | Wouldn't that be more of a cleanse? |
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| 18:41.59 | TS|Skrom | could be an exorcism |
| 18:42.14 | |Jelly| | Oh yeah |
| 18:50.00 | Josh_Borke | Shadowed: ping |
| 18:50.09 | Mike-N-Go | With Cartographer, how do I turn off click thgough map? I been looking through the menu for quite a while. |
| 18:50.13 | Shadowed | Cairenn what would it take to kick Josh_Borke |
| 18:50.24 | Josh_Borke | asking teh wrong person Shadowed |
| 18:50.31 | Josh_Borke | yous hould ask claddy waddy, he'd kick me in a heartbeat :-P |
| 18:50.38 | Cairenn | lol |
| 18:50.41 | Shadowed | clad NEVER abuses power |
| 18:50.58 | *** kick/#wowi-lounge [Josh_Borke!n=cladhair@WoWUIDev/WoWI/Featured/Dongle/cladhaire] by cladhaire (cladhaire) |
| 18:51.03 | Shadowed | yay for clad |
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| 18:51.10 | Josh_Borke | see, i told you |
| 18:51.11 | cladhaire | Shadowed: PING |
| 18:51.22 | Shirik | 13:08:06 » TC-Working was 4kicked by cladhaire ‹admin abuse my ass› |
| 18:51.29 | Shirik | I don't see any either >.> |
| 18:51.30 | Shirik | <.< |
| 18:51.39 | Lunessa | :is blind to abuses of poer: |
| 18:51.53 | Lunessa | :can't type either: |
| 18:51.54 | Mike-N-Go | Lunessa: poer? |
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| 18:52.12 | cogwheel | and apparently mute on Ws |
| 18:52.24 | cogwheel | Lunessa: /me works like it does in wow ;) |
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| 18:57.04 | TS|Skrom | well crud |
| 18:57.23 | TS|Skrom | it seems of the four addons I made only one is still listed on curse and one on wow-interface :( |
| 18:57.45 | Lunessa | That puts you two up on me. |
| 18:58.13 | TS|Skrom | which kinda sucks I was going to pull up the code on one of the old ones because it would help me with this new one... but I don't have it saved anywhere |
| 18:58.29 | Cairenn | what do you mean only 1 is still listed on our site? unless you asked us to delete them yourself, they are still there |
| 18:59.30 | TS|Skrom | hrm.. I logged in as my account, click "list my interfaces" from the front page and only my heal helper is listed |
| 18:59.46 | Cairenn | username on the site? |
| 18:59.47 | cladhaire | what were the addons called? |
| 18:59.50 | TS|Skrom | I'm not 100% sure that I uploaded all 3 of the others to your site, but I'm pretty sure at least my totem timers made it |
| 18:59.51 | TS|Skrom | skrom |
| 19:00.29 | TS|Skrom | eh, maybe not I don't know my brian is rather fuzzy on the details, but I thought for sure I had lol |
| 19:00.50 | Cairenn | nope, you're correct, it's the only one on the site - either you never uploaded them to begin with, or you asked us to delete them |
| 19:00.59 | *** part/#wowi-lounge cladhaire (n=cladhair@WoWUIDev/WoWI/Featured/Dongle/cladhaire) |
| 19:01.02 | TS|Skrom | yeah I didn't ask to delete so I'm just going crazy XD |
| 19:01.05 | TS|Skrom | thanks for looking :) |
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| 19:01.17 | Cairenn | as clad said, what was the name of any of the others? |
| 19:02.11 | TS|Skrom | they were all labled Skrom's Totem Timers, Skrom's Heal Help and.. Master Loot Minder, oh that's right, the fourth I never uploaded anywhere it was just for my guild XD |
| 19:02.47 | Cairenn | well, doing an advance download search on Totem Timer, there's nothing by you |
| 19:03.00 | TS|Skrom | oh hey I found something through google |
| 19:03.07 | TC-Working | TS|Skrom http://files.filefront.com/Skroms+Totem+Timers+v001/;5531893;/fileinfo.html |
| 19:03.09 | TC-Working | heh |
| 19:03.09 | TS|Skrom | looks like someone archived it to another site from curse |
| 19:03.25 | Cairenn | ditto on master loot |
| 19:03.47 | TS|Skrom | yep, the master loot one was such a piece of crap, but a friend asked me to make it for him because he always forgot to set it XD |
| 19:04.37 | cogwheel | ut oh |
| 19:04.42 | cogwheel | hamster casualty |
| 19:04.46 | cogwheel | ~emulate cogwheel |
| 19:04.57 | purl | ACTION shakes its fist at the forums... http://ctscreens.net/5307 |
| 19:05.27 | Lunessa | Bring in more hamsters! |
| 19:05.30 | TC-Working | pfft...that pic is just your comp sucking.... |
| 19:05.38 | cogwheel | u wish |
| 19:05.40 | TC-Working | because wow NEVER has ANYTHING wrong with it |
| 19:06.21 | Lunessa | Hah... time to read blogs and wired news... |
| 19:07.18 | Guillotine | Lunessa: a rather good political blog someone linked here a while ago if you're interested: http://jonswift.blogspot.com/index.html |
| 19:07.52 | |Jelly| | Forum Maintenance Notification whiskey tango foxtrot batman! |
| 19:08.43 | Aella | Oh goodness... Guillotine, my head will shortly explode. |
| 19:09.05 | *** mode/#wowi-lounge [+v Guillotine] by ChanServ |
| 19:09.20 | cogwheel | I'm rather partial to http://www.lewrockwell.com though it doesn't exactly classify as a blog... |
| 19:13.42 | cogwheel | Illillillill hurts my head |
| 19:14.13 | |Jelly| | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:14.27 | Lunessa | Shouldn't his name be cause for a ban? |
| 19:14.30 | |Jelly| | Apparently he didn't like my idea of a name change for him. |
| 19:16.24 | Lunessa | His GoogleFu is weak, and so are his debate skills? |
| 19:18.24 | Lunessa | Hah. "Clean" interfaces with more buttons than my priest and more graphics on screen than world view. |
| 19:19.37 | |Jelly| | I really need to work on my UI |
| 19:19.39 | |Jelly| | like...bad |
| 19:20.06 | Lunessa | I won't hold your love of the Mazzle UI against you. |
| 19:20.16 | Lunessa | much. |
| 19:20.21 | Shirik | I will |
| 19:20.24 | Shirik | jk ^^ |
| 19:20.32 | |Jelly| | I'm not using Mazzle anymore and due to that, I wretch every time I log in. |
| 19:20.39 | Shirik | wretch? |
| 19:20.46 | Lunessa | retch |
| 19:20.59 | |Jelly| | yeah |
| 19:21.05 | Shirik | ~dict retch |
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| 19:30.44 | TC-Working | Read http://blue.cardplace.com/newcache/us/106556539.htm then follow the link |
| 19:30.48 | TC-Working | funny |
| 19:30.56 | Guillotine | anybody still have the link to that video of the Mode7 3d instance map thing? |
| 19:33.11 | Josh_Borke | DungeonCrawler? |
| 19:33.16 | Guillotine | ya |
| 19:33.28 | Mikma | TC-Working: phoenix mount, some sites say it costs 10.000g |
| 19:34.08 | Guillotine | Josh_Borke: ah, thanks for the name. found the video :) |
| 19:34.09 | Punkie` | Mikma: gogo check mmo-champion |
| 19:34.11 | Josh_Borke | link? |
| 19:34.47 | Guillotine | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IRz2HlUrufw |
| 19:34.48 | Mikma | Punkie`: meh, too tired to open new page in browser xD |
| 19:35.12 | Guillotine | I so want that addon to be able to see how he did it XD |
| 19:35.47 | Josh_Borke | Guillotine: look up GraphLib on wowace |
| 19:36.39 | Lunessa | Wow... It's like playing Descent in '92 all over again. |
| 19:36.42 | TC-Working | Mikma, i was more refering to the fact that nethaera said that it was there but the link ends in 'item not found' |
| 19:37.01 | Guillotine | TC: thottbot removed it |
| 19:37.07 | Guillotine | it used to be the phoenix mount link |
| 19:37.32 | TC-Working | ok, ok, nvm all it was an attempt at a joke...it failed...i got it |
| 19:37.39 | Punkie` | well from mmo-champion: Easy, they dropped the Ashes of Al'ar , the phoenix mount is now confirmed to be a drop from Kael'thas. |
| 19:37.56 | Mikma | TC-Working: ok, thottbot ass and fail |
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| 19:48.02 | TS|Skrom | if you do for k,v in pairs(tbl) and v is also a table, can you do getn( v) to get the number of elements for v? |
| 19:48.27 | Aella | Do #v, and yes, if it's a list (ordered). |
| 19:48.36 | TS|Skrom | #v? |
| 19:48.51 | Aella | # is the size operator, getn is deprecated. |
| 19:48.56 | TS|Skrom | ohhh |
| 19:49.10 | TS|Skrom | so y=#v for example |
| 19:49.14 | Aella | Yep. |
| 19:49.25 | Guillotine | really? I was under the impression it was either/or. Guess I better start switching my getn over to # :) |
| 19:49.29 | TS|Skrom | neat, thanks |
| 19:50.02 | TS|Skrom | wish I had my laptop with me, I think it's functional but no way to test it at work lol |
| 19:50.05 | Shirik | getn is definitely deprecated |
| 19:52.16 | Aella | And of course, the FrameXML code still uses it. =P |
| 19:52.16 | Punkie` | Does anyone know why my new laptop won't read the UDF DVD-R backup disks i made? :( |
| 19:57.01 | TS|Skrom | erm.. question, I switched my getn(v) to #v and now I get a compile error, do I need to update my luaedit or just live with it? |
| 19:58.03 | cogwheel|work | you need to be using lua 5.1 |
| 19:58.17 | TS|Skrom | ahha |
| 19:58.24 | cogwheel|work | I recommend http://sf.net/projects/lua511wow :P |
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| 19:59.16 | TS|Skrom | looks like it's time to change LuaEdit doesn't seem to have anything newer then 3.0.2 which is 5.0 |
| 20:00.59 | cogwheel|work | a) because it's compiled with the same 5.0 compatibility options as WoW (read: none), b) it has the same GC settings as WoW, c) it reproduces some C functions that are unique to WoW (strsplit, strtrim, strjoin & strconcat), d) it has global aliases to the standard library functions like WoW, and e) I put it together :> |
| 20:01.25 | TS|Skrom | nice |
| 20:02.17 | cogwheel|work | as far as editors go, I recommend SciTE-WoWInterface or Notepad++ |
| 20:04.05 | |Jelly| | seconded on SciTE |
| 20:04.45 | cladhaire | do battlegrounds have Zone and Continent information? |
| 20:07.08 | Aella | Meaning what? In the world map? |
| 20:07.24 | cladhaire | meaning as far as API goes. |
| 20:07.34 | Aella | They act just like instances, AFAIK. |
| 20:07.52 | cladhaire | k |
| 20:08.15 | Shirik | SciTE is ftw |
| 20:08.19 | Shirik | but we need it updated for 2.0 :( |
| 20:08.42 | Thrae | VIM is FTSW! |
| 20:09.02 | cladhaire | Shirik: feel free =) |
| 20:09.06 | cladhaire | there are new packages |
| 20:09.08 | Shirik | I started on it |
| 20:09.09 | cladhaire | easier to distribute |
| 20:09.17 | Shirik | then I wanted to beat my head against the wall |
| 20:09.37 | cladhaire | it was easier when the wiki wasn't a cesspool of outdated information |
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| 20:14.24 | cogwheel|work | I've never much cared for wikis |
| 20:14.47 | Lunessa | I like the idea in theory, but in practice ... |
| 20:14.51 | |Jelly| | WITCH! |
| 20:14.56 | Osagasu | MUTANT! |
| 20:15.00 | Osagasu | XENOS! |
| 20:15.04 | End | WAFFLES! |
| 20:15.07 | End | wait, what? |
| 20:15.10 | Osagasu | FOR WAFFLES! |
| 20:15.16 | Aella | Ok, just figured out how I'm gonna make my million. |
| 20:15.22 | Shirik | off waffles? |
| 20:15.27 | Osagasu | WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH |
| 20:15.34 | Lunessa | This is madness! No, THIS IS WIKI! |
| 20:15.40 | |Jelly| | Wait. A million waffles? Can I have like...3? |
| 20:15.45 | Osagasu | One o'the Boyz! |
| 20:16.18 | amro | wow, you guys win the offtopic award |
| 20:16.54 | cladhaire | you know |
| 20:17.02 | Shirik|Shower | yes I do |
| 20:20.19 | Aella | And no, I don't have a million waffles. |
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| 20:20.42 | Lunessa | Now I want waffles. |
| 20:20.48 | Aella | TOO BAD |
| 20:21.03 | Osagasu | Clean! Purge! Kill! |
| 20:21.03 | Aella | *ahem* |
| 20:21.26 | |Jelly|Off-Topic | You don't have a million waffles? Why not? *cry* |
| 20:22.35 | |Jelly| | Stranger Danger! |
| 20:23.07 | Mikma | http://forums.wow-europe.com/thread.html?topicId=289969693&sid=1 <- rofl |
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| 20:24.54 | Lunessa | Mikma, why ROFL? Did I miss the joke? |
| 20:25.18 | Mikma | Lunessa: the title, the "requirements" ... |
| 20:25.30 | cladhaire | the entire post is a joke |
| 20:25.36 | cladhaire | except not really =) |
| 20:25.57 | Mikma | i was just about to say that the whole guy is a joke but clad said it that way :D |
| 20:25.58 | Osagasu | Sounds like she wants sRaidframes and kin. |
| 20:26.26 | Lunessa | sounds like they're just a jerk. |
| 20:26.49 | Lunessa | A priest who thinks 'healing is for hybrids" |
| 20:27.41 | Mikma | let's see the talents |
| 20:27.47 | Osagasu | that's unfortunately the case in the game as is |
| 20:27.49 | Mikma | or, not. |
| 20:27.58 | Mikma | "Error Encountered" |
| 20:27.59 | Osagasu | Error? |
| 20:28.44 | Aella | Eek! Few live to survive an encounter with the fearsome Error. |
| 20:28.58 | Lunessa | Bah. Preist R 4 hael! |
| 20:30.10 | |Jelly| | lol |
| 20:30.25 | |Jelly| | Pre 70 (and 2.1 I suppose) I was replaced by paladins all the time |
| 20:31.28 | Lunessa | I do just fine. I also make Paladins heal too - so I'm not the only person getting tagged for heroics, raids, and new places. |
| 20:31.58 | |Jelly| | Well. I'm holy now. 8P |
| 20:32.32 | Lunessa | 31 Disc/ 30 Holy / 0 Shadow. *shrug* |
| 20:32.51 | TC-Working | 0/0/56 for me |
| 20:32.55 | |Jelly| | 23/38 Cookie Cutter! |
| 20:33.15 | TC-Working | err...0/0/66 for me |
| 20:33.36 | TC-Working | err...0/0/56 for me |
| 20:33.37 | TC-Working | damit by brain sucks |
| 20:33.37 | Josh_Borke | 0/0/51 |
| 20:33.37 | Josh_Borke | all shadow baby |
| 20:34.40 | |Jelly| | I miss shadow. |
| 20:34.47 | |Jelly| | I don't miss being called "mana battery" |
| 20:34.48 | Lunessa | Shadow is fun, but I built with being a healer in mind, and group support. If I was going to do another priest, I might do an undead or blood elf shadow preist. |
| 20:34.56 | Lunessa | priest even. |
| 20:35.24 | Lunessa | I'm out of character slots on my server though. |
| 20:35.30 | |Jelly| | Same |
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| 20:36.22 | TC-Working | off healer with ++dps...fun |
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| 20:41.27 | Lunessa | I've played every class since the game came out. I made the priest last. But I did a healing druid, a feral druid, a resto shaman, an enhancement shaman, and a pladin for a while too. |
| 20:41.44 | Lunessa | I must say lots of DPS makes soloing very easy. :D |
| 20:42.55 | Industrial | 1-60 is boring, i cant do it :< |
| 20:42.58 | Industrial | 70, even |
| 20:43.07 | Industrial | playing since 05, not one level 60 |
| 20:43.21 | Industrial | i just cant :< |
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| 20:43.37 | Lunessa | 2 level 70s, a 63, a 61, and a bunch pre-50. |
| 20:43.46 | Industrial | maek me one |
| 20:43.51 | Industrial | im too poor to pay you, hah. |
| 20:44.21 | Lunessa | Hah. I don't have enough time to level all my alts and you want me to do it for you for free? |
| 20:44.33 | Industrial | :3 |
| 20:44.41 | nymbia | terrible Industrial ! |
| 20:44.58 | Lunessa | Get Nymbia to do it. |
| 20:45.04 | Industrial | nymbia: do eeeeet |
| 20:45.06 | nymbia | naw, i can't do alts :( |
| 20:45.16 | Industrial | well, it'd be a main |
| 20:45.16 | Industrial | zing |
| 20:45.19 | Industrial | =D |
| 20:45.30 | Lunessa | Hah... We used to roll on the same server Nymbia... I just got sick of the ganking. |
| 20:45.47 | nymbia | got my level 60 back in '04 then pushed it to 70 in a couple days after the expansion... but i can't do the alts thing, they never make it past 20 |
| 20:46.15 | Industrial | i have one 40 now |
| 20:46.25 | nymbia | Lunessa: cool :) |
| 20:46.31 | Industrial | 2 24's, 2 13's :P I have deleted _alot_ of chars. |
| 20:46.45 | nymbia | haha |
| 20:46.56 | Industrial | and have pokes at the interface while doing it, ofcourse |
| 20:47.14 | Industrial | bet id love the game at 70 :< |
| 20:47.19 | Industrial | especially pvp |
| 20:47.21 | Lunessa | Sometimes I think modding/hacking the interface is the coolest meta-game. |
| 20:47.24 | jme | it's one big rep grind |
| 20:51.04 | nymbia | i think they did pretty good with endgame at 70 this time around |
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| 20:51.20 | jme | i wasn't around to experience the endgame at 60 :( |
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| 20:51.59 | cogwheel|work | I only got a couple month's worth of level 60 endgame... Pretty much just got most of felheart and that was it... |
| 20:52.31 | nymbia | 60 it was just 'go do molten core and onyxia!', now there's 10 man raids, 25 man raids, heroics, some cool solo-ish stuff, and arenas (<3) |
| 20:53.05 | jme | heh |
| 20:53.18 | jme | i've been wanting to go back and do the old raids just for the experience |
| 20:53.25 | Lunessa | Funny enough, I never saw the inside of BWL, but I did do a bit og ZG, MC, Ony, and AQ 20/40. I'm not a 'raider' by nature, so the 10/25 man stuff in TBC really appeals to me. |
| 20:53.27 | cogwheel|work | kara is the new UBRS |
| 20:53.43 | nymbia | bwl and naxx were cool, mc and aq were pretty painful |
| 20:54.05 | TC-Working | sweet, Parallels 3.0 can use dx & openGL |
| 20:54.13 | jme | oooh |
| 20:54.25 | Aella | That'll be nice, wonder what the benchmarks will look like... |
| 20:54.28 | jme | i knew they were adding opengl support |
| 20:54.28 | TC-Working | http://www.gizmodo.com/gadgets/parallels/ |
| 20:54.31 | Lunessa | Yes, yes it can. :D |
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| 20:55.26 | Lunessa | I got attuned for everything, but didn't go into BWL until after TBC came out... just to see it and get killed in the first room. :) |
| 20:56.17 | Aella | Someone else notice something wrong with the phrase "Let's all get the hell out of these mainstream operating systems"? |
| 20:56.46 | jme | i still lack BM to get attuned with kara |
| 20:56.53 | jme | for* |
| 20:57.00 | Lunessa | Like --- what's wrong with mainstream, supported, and commerically viable O/Ss? |
| 20:57.23 | Aella | No, if we "all" get out of the "mainstream" ones, we'll just go into another one and there'll be a new "mainstream." |
| 20:57.44 | TC-Working | unless everyone is wildly divergent and many small ones poip up |
| 20:57.52 | Lunessa | Heh, mainstream is what the 'mainstream' is doing. |
| 20:57.58 | TC-Working | Note: i cant spell nor type |
| 20:58.01 | Thrae | "We are a group of non-conformists! We don't conform to anything!" "Yeah, that's right!" |
| 20:58.05 | Lunessa | So, who's moving to Be then? |
| 20:59.32 | Lunessa | "You should all think for yourselves!" ... |
| 20:59.37 | Fin | English teacher is explaining to a class about how two negatives can mean something positive... |
| 20:59.42 | Lunessa | "F__K NO!" |
| 21:00.03 | Fin | She explains to the class that, however, two positives can't make something negative... |
| 21:00.14 | Fin | ... kid at the back of the class: "Yeah, right" |
| 21:00.19 | Aella | Bwahahaha. |
| 21:00.33 | Aella | Though he's wrong, it's funny. =P |
| 21:00.42 | Fin | :) |
| 21:01.16 | Lunessa | Wait, you mean the Rolling Stones got it all wrong, and I can get "no statisfaction"? |
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| 21:01.59 | Fin | they were indeed gramattically incorrect |
| 21:04.25 | *** join/#wowi-lounge PProvost_ (i=PProvost@WoWUIDev/WAU/Admin/Pprovost) |
| 21:06.02 | Fin | but still right on |
| 21:07.37 | Laric | in violation there seems to be a problem with syncing damage done... it syncs everything else.. any other violation user is invisible on the damage done |
| 21:08.05 | Laric | oops wrong chan |
| 21:08.07 | TecnoBrat | Laric, wowace would be a good spot |
| 21:08.08 | TecnoBrat | haha |
| 21:08.13 | TecnoBrat | nm :P |
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| 21:10.15 | Industrial | looking for a speed leveler that wants to roll an alt =D |
| 21:10.30 | Shadowed | weren't you leveling with someone |
| 21:10.57 | Industrial | yeah mikma, twice |
| 21:10.57 | Industrial | :P |
| 21:10.59 | Shadowed | Mikma fails? |
| 21:11.08 | Industrial | not really |
| 21:11.46 | Lunessa | Industrial fails? |
| 21:12.11 | Industrial | i think we've established that |
| 21:12.13 | Industrial | :P |
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| 21:13.05 | Lunessa | level! |
| 21:13.09 | Lunessa | Write more code! |
| 21:13.25 | TC-Working | yes, more code |
| 21:13.42 | Industrial | fine what code |
| 21:13.56 | TC-Working | write me a mod, and be snappy about it |
| 21:14.41 | Shirik|Fooding | Industrial: Write them a mod |
| 21:14.49 | Shirik|Fooding | it shall, on PLAYER_ENTERING_WORLD |
| 21:14.52 | Shirik|Fooding | do |
| 21:15.13 | Shirik|Fooding | for k,v in pairs(_G) do _G[k] = nil; end |
| 21:15.17 | Industrial | lol |
| 21:15.30 | Aella | That. |
| 21:15.31 | Aella | Would. |
| 21:15.32 | Aella | Be. |
| 21:15.33 | Aella | Aweomse. |
| 21:15.38 | Aella | I'm trying that. Right now. |
| 21:15.52 | Industrial | hehe |
| 21:17.23 | TC-Working | damit, i want to be home playing games and buging people |
| 21:17.26 | Aella | That's AWESOME |
| 21:17.50 | Garoun|Loupana | grr 500 rep to go for my Earthwarden |
| 21:17.57 | Garoun|Loupana | time to solo the neutral guys |
| 21:18.10 | Aella | Best way to throw an irrecoverable error ever. |
| 21:19.11 | Aella | I can't get over how cool that is. |
| 21:19.48 | Shadowed | easier one |
| 21:19.52 | Shadowed | /script WorldFrame:Hide() |
| 21:19.58 | Aella | Not *nearly* as cool. |
| 21:20.38 | Aella | Though a combo of both would be pretty rockin'. |
| 21:20.56 | Aella | Still, having everything on your interface and all interaction with the game world cease instantly? |
| 21:23.58 | Aella | Hmm, I wonder what kind of errors that remove-global-environment would be throwing if it could… |
| 21:24.15 | *** join/#wowi-lounge Shirik|Ecole (n=nospam@155.31.161.72) |
| 21:25.01 | Aella | Shirik|Ecole, that has my vote as the best one-line way to kill a WoW session. |
| 21:25.28 | Shirik|Ecole | nah, a = function(a) coroutine.wrap(a)(a) end; a(a) |
| 21:25.30 | Shirik|Ecole | is so much faster |
| 21:25.42 | Aella | But it's not nearly as classy as having everything stop working simultaneous. |
| 21:25.42 | Shirik|Ecole | but if they update lua it won't work anymore :( |
| 21:25.47 | Aella | * simultaneously |
| 21:25.48 | Shirik|Ecole | hehe |
| 21:26.37 | Aella | I mean seriously, for a few seconds after pressing that I was in the same mode as I would be while trying to move while the chat box is up. |
| 21:26.59 | Shirik|Ecole | nice |
| 21:27.25 | Shirik|Ecole | I say |
| 21:27.29 | TC-Working | Wanker!! |
| 21:27.30 | Shirik|Ecole | this is what addon authors deserve |
| 21:27.35 | Shirik|Ecole | for polluting the global namespace |
| 21:27.42 | Shirik|Ecole | if they used locals, that wouldn't cause any trouble at all |
| 21:27.52 | Aella | That was all FrameXML, though =P |
| 21:28.08 | Shirik|Ecole | yeah well FrameXML is flooded with "this" everywhere too :P |
| 21:28.45 | Aella | Though it would cause trouble even if locals were commonly used. |
| 21:29.55 | Shirik|Ecole | yeah the lack of APIs would kinda suck |
| 21:30.10 | Shirik|Ecole | ......... |
| 21:30.12 | Shirik|Ecole | wtf |
| 21:30.27 | Shirik|Ecole | "tropical storm headed straight for northern florida, which is pretty good news" |
| 21:30.29 | Shirik|Ecole | Yeah, great news |
| 21:30.31 | Shirik|Ecole | wtf |
| 21:30.37 | Shirik|Ecole | I hate CNN |
| 21:30.39 | Aella | The best thing about wacking out the global namespace is you can't see any errors. |
| 21:30.55 | Aella | Are you in northern Florida or something? |
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| 21:31.46 | Shirik|Ecole | ya |
| 21:32.22 | Shirik|Ecole | well, semi-northern |
| 21:32.27 | Shirik|Ecole | northern enough to be affected |
| 21:33.23 | |Jelly| | So are you going to cowboy up and make fun of the storm while TROLLING the UI forums? 8P |
| 21:33.36 | Aella | Jelly, |
| 21:33.43 | Aella | Don't scare me like that. |
| 21:33.49 | |Jelly| | lol |
| 21:34.11 | Shirik|Ecole | "cowboy up" ? |
| 21:34.28 | |Jelly| | http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=cowboy+up |
| 21:35.40 | Shirik|Ecole | hurricanes aren't as big of a deal as most people think |
| 21:35.50 | Shirik|Ecole | because all you ever see on the news is things like katrina, etc., |
| 21:36.21 | Shirik|Ecole | but yeah, knowing my school |
| 21:36.24 | |Jelly| | Never been in a hurricane but I have been in a couple tornadoes. (No, I don't live in a trailer park) |
| 21:36.27 | Shirik|Ecole | the internet will go down during the storm |
| 21:36.54 | zenzelezz | |Jelly|: not anymore anyway |
| 21:37.18 | |Jelly| | That hurts. |
| 21:37.26 | Lunessa | Earthquakes are NBD too. Usually. |
| 21:38.49 | Shirik|Ecole | heh |
| 21:39.00 | Shirik|Ecole | I remember when Iriel says in here "Ooh, earthquate" |
| 21:39.02 | Shirik|Ecole | we all overreacted |
| 21:39.17 | Shirik|Ecole | and he laughed at us |
| 21:39.59 | Lunessa | Heh, grew up with them. Not so spooky until they are really big. |
| 21:41.46 | |Jelly| | I would imagine the ground shaking would be a weird experience to get used to. |
| 21:42.38 | Aella | Doubt it's any weirder than snow falling from the sky. |
| 21:42.57 | Shirik|Ecole | well |
| 21:43.04 | Shirik|Ecole | you've gotten used to moving at about 1000 miles per hour |
| 21:43.21 | Shirik|Ecole | I'm sure it shouldn't be too hard to get used to a few extra meters per second |
| 21:43.28 | |Jelly| | Snow is pretty weird. We get what people call "snow" which is really "sleet." |
| 21:43.42 | Aella | Indeed. |
| 21:44.32 | |Jelly| | And Shirik...I know what you're talking about but really... did you have to one-up us all by a LOT? |
| 21:44.41 | Shirik|Ecole | well |
| 21:44.44 | Aella | yes |
| 21:44.46 | Shirik|Ecole | I could have bothered to ask where you were |
| 21:44.47 | Industrial | yes |
| 21:44.50 | Industrial | yes Shirik|Ecole . |
| 21:44.51 | |Jelly| | Hey look. weather! |
| 21:44.53 | Industrial | :> |
| 21:45.00 | |Jelly| | "No...screw you! EARTH!!! |
| 21:45.01 | Shirik|Ecole | then I could do 1000 * cos(latitude) |
| 21:45.07 | Shirik|Ecole | and that would be the actual speed |
| 21:45.11 | Industrial | lol |
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| 21:45.17 | Aella | Is 1,000 really the most accurate figure you can come up with? |
| 21:45.24 | |Jelly| | burn |
| 21:45.27 | Shirik|Ecole | ok fine |
| 21:45.32 | |Jelly| | Ut Oh |
| 21:45.40 | |Jelly| | I think you opened something there, Aella. |
| 21:45.57 | Shirik|Ecole | 24,859.82 / 24 * cos(latitude) |
| 21:45.58 | Aella | ssh, once he gets overexcited the drugs will kick in and I'll steal his kidney |
| 21:45.58 | Shirik|Ecole | happy? |
| 21:46.11 | Aella | Only two decimal places? |
| 21:46.18 | Shirik|Ecole | find me a more accurate reading :P |
| 21:46.41 | Shirik|Ecole | oops |
| 21:46.46 | Shirik|Ecole | 24,901.55 / 24 * cos(latitude) |
| 21:46.47 | Shirik|Ecole | there |
| 21:48.11 | |Jelly| | Well. The first few pages on google failed. You win, Shirik...although I'm not happy about it. |
| 21:48.20 | Shirik|Ecole | I always win. |
| 21:48.27 | Aella | I still get a kidney out of the deal. |
| 21:48.42 | Aella | "S'long as we got the goods, I call dis a win." |
| 21:49.38 | |Jelly| | Question: (And I figure I know the answer) Is RDX pointless unless...everyone in the raid has it? (No, I haven't been to the site in forever...sorry) |
| 21:49.45 | Aella | Not quite pointless. |
| 21:50.33 | Shirik|Ecole | no |
| 21:50.41 | Aella | It's got raid frames and stuff... |
| 21:50.42 | Shirik|Ecole | though it can't do everything you'd probably want it to |
| 21:50.45 | |Jelly| | Well. If anyone saw a recent cap of my UI, they'll understand why I'm looking into different things and I figured I might give it a shot. But currently, I'm raiding with other guilds so I can't be like "ZOMG! You have to have this addon!" |
| 21:50.52 | Shirik|Ecole | I use it to heal, which doesn't need anyone to have it |
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| 21:51.23 | Shirik|Ecole | however things like |
| 21:51.28 | Shirik|Ecole | SS cooldown check, for example |
| 21:51.32 | Shirik|Ecole | doesn't work unless the warlocks have it |
| 21:51.43 | |Jelly| | Is it better than Healbot? Because I <3 that and don't have to change my bindings (so to speak) like Clique+Grid |
| 21:51.48 | Shirik|Ecole | I've never used healbot nor grid |
| 21:51.57 | Shirik|Ecole | though based on my understanding of grid, it is the same thing |
| 21:51.58 | |Jelly| | Yeah. That was a stupid question. |
| 21:52.05 | Shirik|Ecole | with one exception |
| 21:52.10 | Shirik|Ecole | we did it months before they did :P |
| 21:52.22 | |Jelly| | Does it use the raid frames or does it create it's own frames? |
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| 21:52.29 | Shirik|Ecole | it creates its own |
| 21:52.33 | Shirik|Ecole | the frames are fully customizable |
| 21:52.37 | |Jelly| | Hmmm. |
| 21:52.42 | Shirik|Ecole | I actually have three sets of raid frames |
| 21:52.46 | |Jelly| | Might have to give it a show tonight in Kara. |
| 21:52.48 | Shirik|Ecole | but I like information overload |
| 21:52.49 | |Jelly| | shot |
| 21:52.51 | |Jelly| | me too |
| 21:53.04 | Shirik|Ecole | http://rdx.emoemu.com/wiki/index.php/API_RDX_Window:new |
| 21:53.05 | Aella | Why *three* sets? |
| 21:53.10 | Shirik|Ecole | whoops that's developer documentation |
| 21:53.14 | |Jelly| | (I know you're against them) People wonder why I use DM, SWS and Recap. |
| 21:53.22 | Shirik|Ecole | http://rdx.emoemu.com/wiki/index.php/Component_Windows |
| 21:53.55 | Shirik|Ecole | Aella: my main frame set is main healing (left click is max rank greater heal, shift left click target, mid click renew, shift mid click binding heal, right click flash heal, shift right click pw:s) |
| 21:54.07 | Shirik|Ecole | I have an efficiency set which is essentially the same thing but lower rank |
| 21:54.16 | clad|dinner | your mom has an efficiency set |
| 21:54.19 | Shirik|Ecole | and then a debuffs set which is left click to dispel, right click abolosh disease |
| 21:54.24 | Shirik|Ecole | abolish* |
| 21:54.36 | Shirik|Ecole | but, I know a lot of people that have it compressed into one set |
| 21:54.50 | Aella | Why can't that just be three parts of the same frame, or something? (Of course, I haven't seen that UI, so maybe just "three sets of raid frames" is scaring me.) |
| 21:54.54 | Shirik|Ecole | also when I'm leading I'll have another set which is only druids/paladins/priests |
| 21:55.01 | Shirik|Ecole | to show mana |
| 21:55.04 | Shirik|Ecole | Aella: It can |
| 21:55.08 | Shirik|Ecole | I just don't |
| 21:55.13 | Aella | Okay. |
| 21:55.16 | |Jelly| | Yeah Shirik. We need a screenshot! |
| 21:55.18 | |Jelly| | OH! |
| 21:55.20 | Shirik|Ecole | my screenshots suck |
| 21:55.24 | Shirik|Ecole | so do Cidan's |
| 21:55.36 | |Jelly| | Something that makes me GRRRR at every raid frame I've EVER used |
| 21:56.47 | Aella | |Jelly|: somehow that GRRRR made me giggle out loud.,' |
| 21:56.47 | |Jelly| | Can you configure where in the world everything is OUTSIDE of a raid? (for instance, class frames/group frames etc) |
| 21:56.47 | |Jelly| | <3 |
| 21:56.47 | Aella | Just pictured a dog with his hackles up, growling at CT_RA. |
| 21:56.47 | Shirik|Ecole | I do |
| 21:56.47 | |Jelly| | If all this is in the Wiki, you can tell me to RTFM...I just wanted to pick your brain while you're here. |
| 21:56.51 | Shirik|Ecole | no please don't RTFM |
| 21:56.51 | Shirik|Ecole | it sucks |
| 21:56.54 | |Jelly| | haha |
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| 21:57.00 | Shirik|Ecole | We're really lazy with documentation |
| 21:57.07 | Shirik|Ecole | the only documentation that's been written is ones that we need |
| 21:57.07 | cladhaire | Shirik|Ecole: Did you get my PMs earlier? |
| 21:57.08 | Aella | In this case, the F in RTFM is descriptive? |
| 21:57.10 | Shirik|Ecole | such as |
| 21:57.14 | Shirik|Ecole | cladhaire: how earlier? |
| 21:57.20 | cladhaire | when you were showering. |
| 21:57.23 | Shirik|Ecole | probably not :( |
| 21:57.28 | Shirik|Ecole | I went straight from shower to eat |
| 21:57.29 | cladhaire | bullshit says i |
| 21:57.32 | Shirik|Ecole | without checking the computer |
| 21:57.42 | |Jelly| | Well. Regardless, I need to go clean up the house and what not...then I'll give it a shot. If all else fails, I still have Healbot and sRaidFrames in LoadIt. |
| 21:57.51 | Shirik|Ecole | I would... |
| 21:57.58 | Shirik|Ecole | hm |
| 21:58.05 | Shirik|Ecole | the sucky part is that clique doesn't really like RDX |
| 21:58.08 | Shirik|Ecole | and I know you use that |
| 21:58.23 | |Jelly|cleaningG | Me? *confused* |
| 21:58.30 | Shirik|Ecole | didn't you say you did? |
| 21:58.45 | |Jelly|cleaningG | No (No offense) but I'm not a fan of clique. |
| 21:58.52 | cladhaire | Why not? |
| 21:58.52 | Shirik|Ecole | oh |
| 21:58.56 | Shirik|Ecole | poor cladhaire :( |
| 21:58.58 | |Jelly|cleaningG | Probably because I haven't *really* looked into it. (My own fault) |
| 21:59.02 | cladhaire | well |
| 21:59.11 | cladhaire | there are videos, extensive documentation, and extremely good screenshots. |
| 21:59.16 | cladhaire | so I can't put anythign more out there than that. |
| 21:59.18 | cladhaire | *shrug* |
| 21:59.26 | cladhaire | the mod takes two seconds to learn how to use it. |
| 21:59.27 | Shirik|Ecole | it's pretty cool, from what I can tell, though I haven't tried it myself |
| 21:59.34 | cladhaire | literally |
| 21:59.42 | End | I wouldn't say I'm a fan, but I'm not not a fan either :P |
| 21:59.51 | Aella | I have to admit, the screenshots of Clique I've seen are approaching a high sexiness factor. |
| 21:59.56 | |Jelly|cleaningG | i've never needed it... |
| 21:59.58 | |Jelly|cleaningG | http://wow-en.curse-gaming.com/downloads/details/3802/ |
| 22:00.00 | Aella | But I'm just biased towards the aqua radio buttons. |
| 22:00.08 | cladhaire | well if you use Healbot. |
| 22:00.12 | cladhaire | *shrug* |
| 22:00.16 | cladhaire | that shit is awful |
| 22:00.17 | cladhaire | always has been |
| 22:00.19 | cladhaire | not to talk shit |
| 22:00.19 | Shirik|Ecole | or if you use RDX |
| 22:00.21 | Shirik|Ecole | *shrug* |
| 22:00.23 | cladhaire | but *shrug* |
| 22:00.33 | cladhaire | healbot is designed to make you a lazy healer |
| 22:00.35 | Shirik|Ecole | and hopefully cladhaire thinks RDX ~= healbot |
| 22:00.36 | cladhaire | then when blizzard nerfed it |
| 22:00.38 | Shirik|Ecole | :( |
| 22:00.41 | cladhaire | cause the game wasn't supposed to be played like that |
| 22:00.48 | cladhaire | they re-did clique |
| 22:00.49 | cladhaire | *shrug* |
| 22:00.54 | |Jelly|cleaningG | Umm. I guess I got in afterwards? |
| 22:00.56 | cladhaire | competition is fine |
| 22:00.59 | Shirik|Ecole | *shrug* |
| 22:01.03 | cladhaire | but healbot has absolutely nothing on clique. |
| 22:01.13 | Shirik|Ecole | *shrug* |
| 22:01.17 | Shirik|Ecole | ^^ |
| 22:01.22 | TC-Working | keep shruging that much and your arms are going to fall off |
| 22:01.24 | |Jelly|cleaning | So apparently that wasn't the right shit to say. |
| 22:01.38 | Shirik|Ecole | nah, cladhaire |
| 22:01.43 | Shirik|Ecole | cladhaire's just rambling :P |
| 22:01.46 | cladhaire | no |
| 22:01.53 | Shirik|Ecole | hopefully not offended :( |
| 22:02.02 | cladhaire | not by you |
| 22:02.12 | cladhaire | Healbot is fine if you want a seperate set of unit frames to click-cast on |
| 22:02.13 | cladhaire | that's fine |
| 22:02.17 | cladhaire | that's not what Clique is. |
| 22:02.27 | |Jelly|cleaning | That's what I like about it more than anything, really. |
| 22:02.41 | cladhaire | then go nuts |
| 22:02.41 | End | That is a neat thing about Clique...it works almost everywhere... |
| 22:02.45 | cladhaire | but don't say you "dont like clique" |
| 22:02.50 | cladhaire | unless you can back it up |
| 22:02.53 | cladhaire | cause I'll make you back it up =) |
| 22:03.06 | Aella | Look! A fuzzy bunny! |
| 22:03.11 | cladhaire | ;-) |
| 22:03.20 | Shadowed | Clique sucks |
| 22:03.23 | Shadowed | the UI is fugly |
| 22:03.30 | End | Shadowed eats babies |
| 22:03.30 | Shadowed | =p |
| 22:03.30 | Shirik|Ecole | Shadowed's trying to get kicked imo |
| 22:03.47 | TC-Working | been there, done that |
| 22:03.57 | |Jelly|cleaning | "Healbot is fine if you want a ***seperate set of unit frames*** to click-cast on" Put an option in Clique for that, and I promise I'll change. |
| 22:04.06 | cladhaire | Why? |
| 22:04.11 | Aella | Separate from what? |
| 22:04.12 | cladhaire | clique isn't unit frames |
| 22:04.18 | |Jelly|cleaning | There ya go. |
| 22:04.19 | cladhaire | and almost every single set of unit frames that exists works with it |
| 22:04.21 | cladhaire | mods should do _one_ thing |
| 22:04.22 | cladhaire | mine does |
| 22:04.23 | cladhaire | and it does it well |
| 22:04.27 | cladhaire | again, *shrug8 |
| 22:04.35 | Shirik|Ecole | 8 shrugs at once! |
| 22:04.42 | cladhaire | indeed =) |
| 22:04.45 | Tain | No Clique no peace! |
| 22:05.02 | End | clique is clicking :P |
| 22:05.10 | cladhaire | Clique and Healbot have nothing to do with each other, this is the point.. So comparing them is pointless. |
| 22:05.10 | |Jelly|cleaning | So yeah. I'm going to go clean up so apparently, I wont piss off Clad anymore. |
| 22:05.11 | cladhaire | point |
| 22:05.16 | cladhaire | i'm not pissed |
| 22:05.17 | cladhaire | =) |
| 22:05.26 | cladhaire | you'd know if i was pissed :P |
| 22:05.26 | Aella | Um, fuzzy bunnies! |
| 22:05.36 | Shadowed | clad is pissed when he starts using caps |
| 22:05.44 | Shadowed | Thrae is an expert at getting him to that point |
| 22:05.52 | Shirik|Ecole | lol |
| 22:05.59 | cladhaire | hehehe |
| 22:06.00 | krka | cladhaire. word! |
| 22:06.03 | Shirik|Ecole | I dare say I've never seen cladhaire pissed |
| 22:06.23 | Tain | Nah getting clad pissed is easy. Just spoil the new Heroes episode before he watches. ;) |
| 22:06.35 | cladhaire | lolol |
| 22:06.36 | Shadowed | It's not complicated |
| 22:06.40 | Shadowed | They save the day |
| 22:06.46 | Shadowed | some of the heroes die |
| 22:06.47 | Shadowed | THE END |
| 22:06.50 | krka | ooh... only a few days till the next heroes ep |
| 22:07.05 | Shirik|Ecole | I don't even see the purpose of that stupid show |
| 22:07.14 | cladhaire | its entertainment? |
| 22:07.14 | Shadowed | I don't see the purpose in any of them |
| 22:07.15 | krka | the purpose is entertainment |
| 22:07.18 | Shirik|Ecole | then again I don't watch tv in general |
| 22:07.22 | cladhaire | whats not to understand? |
| 22:07.24 | Shadowed | obviously i'm a bit jaded |
| 22:07.29 | Shirik|Ecole | like |
| 22:07.31 | krka | i dont see the purpose of YOU |
| 22:07.36 | Shadowed | s/bit/"bit"/ |
| 22:07.40 | End | I don't see the purpose of your FACE |
| 22:07.46 | Shirik|Ecole | Futurama > Heroes |
| 22:08.05 | krka | yeah... those are really comparable |
| 22:08.08 | cladhaire | hi mr. unrelated comparison |
| 22:08.10 | cladhaire | my name is clad! |
| 22:08.10 | Shirik|Ecole | totally. |
| 22:08.17 | Shirik|Ecole | hey |
| 22:08.19 | Shirik|Ecole | coersion |
| 22:08.22 | Shirik|Ecole | Lua has it, so should RL |
| 22:08.27 | krka | moons orbit > worms in apples |
| 22:08.44 | cladhaire | krka: you are CLEARLY shortchanging the worms. |
| 22:08.44 | krka | see, that's another useful comparison |
| 22:08.45 | Aella | Only string <-> number, though. =P |
| 22:08.52 | cladhaire | my worms are armageddon worms |
| 22:08.54 | cladhaire | they have bazooka |
| 22:09.04 | Shirik|Ecole | you can use a metatable |
| 22:09.22 | Aella | Geez, I'd love to add a few metamethods to life. |
| 22:09.36 | Shirik|Ecole | futurama, heroes = {}, {}; setmetatable(futurama, {__lt = function() return false; end}); return futurama < heroes; |
| 22:09.55 | krka | error |
| 22:09.58 | Shirik|Ecole | :( |
| 22:09.59 | Shirik|Ecole | yes |
| 22:10.01 | krka | both tables must have the same metatable |
| 22:10.10 | krka | i think |
| 22:10.14 | Shadowed | they aren't local either |
| 22:10.15 | Aella | Same metamethod, actually. |
| 22:10.29 | krka | isn't that what i said aella? |
| 22:10.37 | Aella | Metatable ~= metamethod. |
| 22:10.40 | Shirik|Ecole | nah you said metatable |
| 22:10.46 | cladhaire | true story |
| 22:10.46 | krka | ah right |
| 22:11.02 | krka | good point, they could use different tables that refers to the same function |
| 22:11.12 | krka | i admit defeat |
| 22:11.19 | Aella | gg no re k thx bye |
| 22:11.37 | Aella | *shakes himself* |
| 22:11.41 | Shirik|Ecole | "eq": the == operation. The function getcomphandler defines how Lua chooses a metamethod for comparison operators. A metamethod only is selected when both objects being compared have the same type and the same metamethod for the selected operation. |
| 22:11.44 | Aella | Okay, I need some mouthwash on my fingers. |
| 22:12.09 | Shirik|Ecole | ok fine |
| 22:12.59 | Shirik|Ecole | mt = {__lt = function(t1, t2) if t1 == futurama then return false; else return true; end}; futurama, heroes = setmetatable({}, mt), setmetatable({}, mt); return futurama < heroes; |
| 22:13.31 | krka | personally i'd do this: |
| 22:13.31 | Shirik|Ecole | blast |
| 22:13.33 | Shirik|Ecole | forgot an end |
| 22:13.34 | Shirik|Ecole | I give up |
| 22:13.34 | kergoth | s/if t1 == futurama then return false; else return true; end/return t1 ~= "futurama"/ |
| 22:13.55 | krka | local futurama, heroes = "futurama", "heroes"; return futurama < heroes :) |
| 22:13.56 | Shirik|Ecole | no quotes :P |
| 22:14.03 | Shirik|Ecole | ah |
| 22:14.05 | Shirik|Ecole | fine :P |
| 22:15.17 | Tain | I HAZ A HEROES IZ "futurama" |
| 22:15.45 | Aella | I thought it was just "I HAS" =P |
| 22:15.49 | Lunessa | Heros > Futurama |
| 22:16.15 | Shirik|Ecole | I thought it was I HAS A |
| 22:16.20 | Shadowed | you guys fail |
| 22:16.30 | Lunessa | I HAZ A FLAVOR |
| 22:16.33 | Shadowed | Oh it is I HAS |
| 22:16.42 | Shirik|Ecole | http://lolcode.com/keywords/i-has-a |
| 22:16.54 | Shirik|Ecole | I HAS A <var> ITZ ... |
| 22:17.24 | krka | stop. you'll make blizzard abandon lua in favor of lolcode |
| 22:17.44 | Tain | I wish! |
| 22:17.53 | zenzelezz | I've been saying "I can has [...]" all the time |
| 22:18.01 | Shirik|Ecole | I HAS A Show IN MAH Frame ITZ function() ... end |
| 22:18.24 | Shirik|Ecole | I HAS A SetAttribute IN MAH SecureUnitFrame ITZ function() ... end |
| 22:18.27 | Shirik|Ecole | oh fun times |
| 22:18.42 | KarlThePagan | O.o |
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| 22:18.56 | Aella | I HAS A isn't assignment, though—it's a variable declaration, right? |
| 22:19.05 | KarlThePagan | I propose that wow addons be implemented in Mindfuck instead of lolcode |
| 22:19.17 | Shirik|Ecole | right |
| 22:19.19 | Shirik|Ecole | it's declaration |
| 22:19.21 | KarlThePagan | Aella, but assignment and declaration are the same in lua |
| 22:19.23 | Shirik|Ecole | "ITZ ..." is initialization |
| 22:19.33 | Aella | Local variable assignment, then. |
| 22:19.34 | KarlThePagan | or... well depend |
| 22:19.49 | KarlThePagan | yea duh |
| 22:19.53 | KarlThePagan | bah too many langs |
| 22:19.53 | krka | KarlThePagan: not really |
| 22:20.00 | KarlThePagan | yea yea i realized it was dumb |
| 22:20.12 | KarlThePagan | i should communicate only in code |
| 22:20.18 | Shirik|Ecole | I can do that |
| 22:20.25 | Shirik|Ecole | DEFAULT_CHAT_FRAME:AddMessage("Hi KarlThePagan"); |
| 22:20.39 | Aella | print("please, assume we're not in WoW") |
| 22:20.53 | Shirik|Ecole | error("WoW environment required") |
| 22:21.06 | Aella | print("This is really the easy way out, though") |
| 22:21.08 | TC-Working | is anyone in #lolcode? |
| 22:21.35 | Aella | please(assume(not self:in(WorldOfWarcraft))) |
| 22:22.00 | Shirik|Ecole | for _, name in pairs(users_in_channel) do if UnitIsInChannel(name, "#lolcode") then print(name .. " is!"); end end |
| 22:22.14 | krka | i wonder if you could implement lolcode syntax to lua by using token filters |
| 22:22.22 | TC-Working | lol tem, are you stalking me |
| 22:22.26 | cladhaire | krka: Yes, I think you can |
| 22:22.37 | krka | just a matter of time before someone does |
| 22:22.48 | cladhaire | meh, i'm not sure that's the lua communities "thing |
| 22:22.48 | cladhaire | " |
| 22:22.51 | Tem | TC-Working, no, I just find that 'project' to be extremely humorous |
| 22:22.52 | cladhaire | quite the contrary actually |
| 22:22.55 | Aella | Hmm, I should rewrite that. |
| 22:22.56 | krka | that would probably make it the most useful esoteric language O_o |
| 22:23.03 | cladhaire | we're kinda stuffy |
| 22:23.12 | krka | we're? |
| 22:23.17 | TC-Working | for some reason they also have ##lolcode |
| 22:23.18 | cladhaire | the lua community |
| 22:23.29 | TC-Working | "We might just split from freenode tradition and keep #LOLCODE open for chat always, and use the second for developer chat and meetings, but that all remains to be seen. Hope to see you there!" |
| 22:23.51 | Aella | local f = function() assert(not WoW:Contains(user)) end; pcall(f); |
| 22:24.13 | Shirik|Ecole | that wouldn't do anything :P |
| 22:24.19 | Shirik|Ecole | you're asserting from within a pcall |
| 22:24.27 | Shirik|Ecole | what happens if the assertion fails? |
| 22:24.45 | cladhaire | aye, exceptinos are useless if you dont' catch them =) |
| 22:24.54 | Tain | I take exception to that. |
| 22:24.57 | Aella | Then I told you "assume we're in WoW" and you didn't, but since I said "please" I don't care. |
| 22:25.04 | cladhaire | Tain: you would! |
| 22:25.08 | Shirik|Ecole | lol |
| 22:25.10 | Aella | Or something >.> |
| 22:25.11 | Shirik|Ecole | pcall = please? |
| 22:25.17 | Aella | Yeah <.< |
| 22:25.23 | Tain | You should have asserted it then, clad! |
| 22:25.25 | Aella | Like a try with no catch. |
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| 22:25.30 | cladhaire | Tain: I prefer to throw errors |
| 22:25.36 | cladhaire | no possibility of passing =) |
| 22:25.56 | Shirik|Ecole | aye, I like thrown errors too |
| 22:26.12 | Shirik|Ecole | I especially hate using a return value to indicate an error |
| 22:26.27 | Aella | I kinda like the nil, "error" paradigm for non-fatal errors |
| 22:26.35 | Aella | So easy to make it fatal. |
| 22:26.35 | cladhaire | aye, it is nice at times. |
| 22:27.16 | krka | would be nice to hav something like this: |
| 22:27.20 | Tain | So on a totally unrelated note. I bought a new vehicle. |
| 22:27.29 | Aella | Congrats. |
| 22:27.29 | cladhaire | yay! |
| 22:27.33 | krka | pcall("division by zero", f, x) |
| 22:27.54 | krka | basically just match the error and dont catch if it doesnt match |
| 22:28.03 | krka | you could add that feature yourself though |
| 22:28.06 | Shirik|Ecole | anyway I have to go pick up my dad now so |
| 22:28.06 | Aella | Make a wrapper! =P |
| 22:28.07 | Tain | '07 Mazda CX-7 |
| 22:28.09 | Shirik|Ecole | see you all in a bit :p |
| 22:28.13 | Aella | See ya. |
| 22:28.27 | krka | Aella: yeah, that's what you'd have to do |
| 22:28.37 | krka | but you'd lose the stack trace by rethrowing |
| 22:28.49 | cladhaire | you already give up the function name |
| 22:28.52 | cladhaire | which blows =( |
| 22:28.52 | Aella | I also don't like that it does string matching. |
| 22:29.28 | Aella | Could you do it with xpcall? |
| 22:29.33 | cladhaire | no |
| 22:29.34 | Aella | Suppose that'd lose the stack too. |
| 22:29.37 | cladhaire | well |
| 22:29.42 | cladhaire | the stack is different from the function name |
| 22:29.51 | cladhaire | when you call a function by some identifier other than the one its defined with |
| 22:29.55 | cladhaire | you lose the name of the function |
| 22:30.22 | cladhaire | i.e. function poo() error("blah") end local succ, err = pcall(poo) |
| 22:30.28 | cladhaire | err won't have "poo" as the functino name |
| 22:30.31 | cladhaire | but filename:line |
| 22:30.32 | cladhaire | instead |
| 22:30.34 | Aella | Right… |
| 22:30.51 | cladhaire | sucks =( |
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| 22:32.25 | cladhaire | wtb fishing bot |
| 22:32.47 | Lunessa | kill me now |
| 22:32.55 | *** mode/#wowi-lounge [+b Lunessa!*@*] by cladhaire |
| 22:32.55 | *** kick/#wowi-lounge [Lunessa!n=cladhair@WoWUIDev/WoWI/Featured/Dongle/cladhaire] by cladhaire (cladhaire) |
| 22:33.02 | Aella | ! |
| 22:33.07 | Thrae | Why did I just do /lastlog 18: when I could have just scrolled up? |
| 22:33.24 | Aella | ! |
| 22:33.34 | Thrae | Anyway, I do not get cladhaire pissed. We just have lively discussions ;) |
| 22:33.39 | *** mode/#wowi-lounge [-b Lunessa!*@*.] by cladhaire |
| 22:33.49 | *** mode/#wowi-lounge [-b Lunessa!*@*] by cladhaire |
| 22:34.45 | cladhaire | =( |
| 22:35.25 | Aella | ! |
| 22:35.33 | cladhaire | *sad face* |
| 22:35.39 | cladhaire | i was just kidding, lol |
| 22:35.44 | zenzelezz | you are a bad, bad person |
| 22:35.48 | zenzelezz | go sit in the corner |
| 22:36.14 | Tain | heh no fishing bot clad, that got me my 72 hour suspension. :) |
| 22:36.25 | cladhaire | lol |
| 22:36.25 | Aella | Zomg gossip |
| 22:36.28 | cladhaire | i'm at 322 |
| 22:36.30 | cladhaire | so long to go. |
| 22:36.52 | Tain | That was a long, long time ago. |
| 22:37.28 | Tain | It was awesome though, C# based libs to interact directly with the game. One of the (many) things that contributed to Warden coming around. |
| 22:37.56 | cladhaire | hehe |
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| 22:39.52 | Shirik|Fooding | !! |
| 22:39.57 | Shirik|Fooding | you broke Lunessa :( |
| 22:40.05 | cladhaire | i know! |
| 22:40.22 | cladhaire | i can't believe it did a nick based ban tho, should have only done it to the nick@hostname |
| 22:40.59 | Shirik|Fooding | you know, technically |
| 22:41.06 | Shirik|Fooding | unnecessarily broad bans are against the freenode network policy |
| 22:41.14 | Shirik|Fooding | imo you're now required to set mode +b cladhaire!*@* |
| 22:42.07 | TC-Working | cladhaire fails |
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| 22:42.44 | Thrae | cladhaire has become too powerful to fail. |
| 22:43.25 | Tain | I can haz teh funnay http://craphound.com/images/schroeslol.jpg |
| 22:43.42 | Aella | Not bad =P |
| 22:44.36 | Industrial | lol |
| 22:47.06 | Shirik | 13:08:06 » TC-Working was kicked by cladhaire ‹admin abuse my ass› |
| 22:47.10 | Shirik | oops |
| 22:47.11 | Shirik | wrong copy |
| 22:47.15 | Shirik | http://icanhascheezburger.files.wordpress.com/2007/06/lolcode.jpg |
| 22:47.16 | Shirik | that one |
| 22:48.02 | TC-Working | damit Shirik, you made me move my eyes all that back to this screen...dmait |
| 22:48.09 | Shirik | :P |
| 22:48.10 | TC-Working | s/that/the/ |
| 22:49.52 | zenzelezz | I find it really inappropriate of the Bog Giants to "grow in size" |
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| 22:50.18 | cladhaire | jealous? |
| 22:50.22 | Shirik | their tendrils get longer too |
| 22:50.34 | Shirik | but they still only drop one |
| 22:50.37 | Shirik | and not all of them have them |
| 22:50.44 | zenzelezz | if you had to tank them with your face level with their crotch, you would dislike it too |
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| 22:52.11 | Recluse | when i shiftclick an item into chat, it adds spaces around it. askprice still works but not with stacks |
| 22:52.53 | Bleeter | Kaydeethree: did you see the cedega patch that one needs to rebuild Wine with? hAVE YOU TRIED IT, IF SO MANY TROUBLES? |
| 22:52.58 | Bleeter | soz, caps, damnit |
| 22:53.58 | Recluse | something with 2.1 patch makes item links with spaces around them that you can't delete for some reason |
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| 22:54.30 | Busko | hi |
| 22:54.42 | Busko | im wondering if anyone uses and is good at bartender3 |
| 22:55.25 | Neebler | how can you be "good" at using a bar addon? wasnt aware it took skill to configure it |
| 22:57.05 | |Jelly|cleaning | Busko: Please rephrase your question. We really don't know what you mean aside from perhaps someone that knows the ins and outs of Bartender better than most? |
| 22:57.32 | Busko | well i have a issue with it |
| 22:57.56 | *** join/#wowi-lounge cogwheel|work (n=chatzill@intra.kistlerwine.com) |
| 22:58.26 | Busko | when i use Shift + 2 to switch bar and then try to stealth |
| 22:58.56 | cogwheel|work | Can someone fact-check the physical order of druid stances for me? I'm pretty sure it's Bear, Aquatic, Cat, Travel, <talent>, Flight |
| 22:59.25 | cladhaire | that's correct |
| 22:59.29 | cogwheel|work | ty |
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| 22:59.48 | cladhaire | i can't confirm oomkin/tol actually |
| 22:59.51 | cladhaire | but i believe this is correct |
| 22:59.57 | Thrae | What will happen when people reach Level 80 and they can get both Moonkin and Tree of Life? The UI will explode! |
| 23:00.35 | cladhaire | cogwheel|work: just checked the book, and that's correct |
| 23:00.35 | Busko | if still not clear i can try to explain better |
| 23:00.38 | cladhaire | as of the writing of chapter 16 |
| 23:00.51 | cogwheel|work | kk :) |
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| 23:01.05 | cladhaire | its actually quite handy for the macros chapter |
| 23:01.06 | cladhaire | heh |
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| 23:01.27 | Thrae | <@cladhaire> I just~buymybook~ checked the book~whichyoushouldbuyrightaway~... |
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| 23:02.30 | cogwheel|work | yeah... I'm actually writing a new macro options sticky since Neuro seems to be AWOL :P |
| 23:03.08 | |Jelly| | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:03.33 | |Jelly| | Are you going to just integrate it into yours? |
| 23:03.33 | cladhaire_ | its sitting right next to me. |
| 23:03.39 | *** mode/#wowi-lounge [+o cladhaire] by ChanServ |
| 23:04.10 | cogwheel|work | |Jelly|: no... I like the idea of them being separate |
| 23:04.28 | |Jelly| | Two different stickies that no one will read? :( |
| 23:04.29 | cogwheel|work | Kind of a beginner's guide & an advanced guide |
| 23:04.42 | |Jelly| | ahh |
| 23:04.57 | cogwheel|work | heh... it seems that way, but I'd be willing to bet the forum traffic would be much worse if they weren't there... |
| 23:05.14 | |Jelly| | Don't know where it is currently, but I had printed out a copy of Neuro's guide. Handed it to a couple of my friends. lol |
| 23:05.17 | |Jelly| | Oh, no doubt. |
| 23:09.35 | Shadowed | Forums would be deserted if people actually read the stickies =p |
| 23:10.57 | |Jelly| | Quick! Best UI Compilation! Go! *wink* |
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| 23:15.50 | cladhaire | http://icanhascheezburger.files.wordpress.com/2007/05/lolmitten.jpg |
| 23:16.57 | zenzelezz | lol |
| 23:17.00 | TC-Working | and people always wonder why i play female charicters http://www.pvponline.com/article/2009/Tue-Jun-01 |
| 23:17.02 | Shadowed | that image fails |
| 23:19.08 | zenzelezz | you fail |
| 23:19.26 | Shadowed | YOUR FACE FAILS |
| 23:19.50 | Antiarc|Work | I've never gotten that argument, personally. |
| 23:20.20 | Antiarc|Work | I play a female character, but it's because I play a rogue, and the male model looks like a bodybuilder - not exactly stealthy and such. |
| 23:20.29 | Shadowed | male models look terrible |
| 23:20.41 | Shadowed | also, female BEs have the best passive stealth animation |
| 23:20.45 | |Jelly|cooking | I play female Blood Elfs because I don't like the anime look of the males : / |
| 23:20.53 | |Jelly|cooking | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:23.37 | TC-Working | well there really isnt a point to me picking one or the other, i never look at PC animation anyways |
| 23:24.57 | Corrodias | i have a female blood elf because i always wanted a sexy mage but couldn't make one horde-side |
| 23:26.01 | |Jelly|cooking | lol |
| 23:26.10 | Corrodias | actually, one that wasn't ugly would have been enough |
| 23:26.20 | Antiarc|Work | The trolls aren't too bad. |
| 23:26.25 | |Jelly|cooking | That's asking a lot. |
| 23:26.47 | Corrodias | the trolls are bad. don't lie to me. |
| 23:28.40 | Corrodias | we managed to pull together two raid id's for karazhan for 3 nights this week. yay! |
| 23:29.03 | Corrodias | each got up to the curator, but he's still our roadblock |
| 23:29.12 | Antiarc|Work | What's blocking you there? |
| 23:29.23 | Corrodias | the boss |
| 23:29.51 | Antiarc|Work | What about the encounter? |
| 23:31.06 | Corrodias | probably a lack of fast dps |
| 23:31.07 | Corrodias | can't kill the flares fast enough to hit the boss for anything |
| 23:31.07 | Antiarc|Work | If you are spread out, try bunching up behind him. That prevents the sparks from moving around too much and makes your melee DPS spend a lot less wasted time chasing them. |
| 23:31.26 | Corrodias | last time we only had one melee dps guy, anyway, and still... |
| 23:31.51 | |Jelly|cooking | ouch |
| 23:32.10 | Aita | My guild encountered the same obstacle, but I'm sure you'll get him in due time :) |
| 23:33.05 | Corrodias | seems a horrible choice: dps gear and get owned by flares or AR gear and do pitiful damage |
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| 23:35.40 | Shadowed | theres always option C) |
| 23:35.51 | Shadowed | yourself killed right at the start and make a sandwich |
| 23:36.16 | |Jelly|cooking | SW:D on the first Evocate and call it a day. |
| 23:36.23 | Antiarc|Work | Corrodias: We've never really had to put our DPS in AR gear |
| 23:36.25 | Antiarc|Work | Just our bolt soaker |
| 23:36.31 | Antiarc|Work | That might be where your problem lies |
| 23:36.59 | Guillotine | same with us |
| 23:37.08 | Guillotine | only person we have in AR gear is our mage that gets hit with the bolts |
| 23:37.09 | Aita | Aye, I'm the soaker for our group, and I even find that the AR isn't needed, but I spent too much time collecting it not to wear it. |
| 23:37.34 | Corrodias | on our last attempt it was entirely just not enough dps, even with no AR on anybody |
| 23:37.59 | Aita | That's frustrating, sorry to hear it. =( |
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| 23:38.15 | Aita | Option C looks better all the time |
| 23:38.46 | Corrodias | we have these... these HUNTERS... |
| 23:39.08 | Antiarc|Work | Corrodias: You potting up? |
| 23:39.14 | Antiarc|Work | Really helps with the first few kills |
| 23:39.15 | Corrodias | when i tank a 5m, as a bear, i do more damage than they do. i understand that trapping takes some time, but that's silly... |
| 23:39.54 | |Jelly|cooking | That is silly... |
| 23:39.57 | Corrodias | i don't know about the others, but i do take at least an elixir of major agility |
| 23:40.13 | Corrodias | we had arcane protection available, but didn't get him low enough to bother |
| 23:41.31 | Antiarc|Work | Corrodias: What are they trapping on Curator? o.0 |
| 23:41.39 | Corrodias | nothing |
| 23:41.48 | Corrodias | i said 5m for five-member instances |
| 23:41.51 | Antiarc|Work | Ah, ok. |
| 23:43.32 | foxlit | wiki: "Another way to output data is to save certain variables using the SetCVar() function. This will immediatly do an export of the config.wtf file that contains various in game variables. This will not allow you to create new variables to export out, just set non default values to certain in game variables. " discuss? |
| 23:43.50 | Antiarc|Work | foxlit: Possible to do and very ugly. |
| 23:44.04 | Corrodias | discuss? seems like you've summed it up all right |
| 23:45.13 | foxlit | That's evil, though - they've blocked virtually every other venue to transfer information from the game, why leave that one open? |
| 23:46.47 | Corrodias | because it's useful to be able to change the CVars |
| 23:47.20 | foxlit | And have them written to disk immediately? |
| 23:47.34 | Corrodias | it doesn't, actually. i just tested it. |
| 23:47.40 | Corrodias | the modified time has not changed |
| 23:47.44 | foxlit | Indeed. |
| 23:48.02 | KarlThePagan | ZOMG WIKIS ARE BROKEN ;) |
| 23:48.07 | Corrodias | and now i can use SetCVar("ffxglow", 1) or 0 to toggle the full-screen glow on and off without a gxrestart again! |
| 23:48.16 | Corrodias | such odd changes going on |
| 23:48.19 | KarlThePagan | wowwiki is often wrong getting down to specifics regarding the api |
| 23:48.46 | foxlit | I intend on doing something about that. |
| 23:48.52 | KarlThePagan | yay |
| 23:50.44 | KarlThePagan | if I were more motivated I would rewrite their documentation on the LFG API |
| 23:50.44 | KarlThePagan | since blizzard finally implemented it |
| 23:53.07 | Kaydeethree | bleeter; nah. I'm just using f7's build of wine. gotta get my nvidia driver installed first though. rebooting |
| 23:54.11 | *** join/#wowi-lounge Sole (n=chatzill@203.109.169.2) |
| 23:56.24 | Garoun|Loupana | happy happy druid, no more CE rep grind |
| 23:56.42 | |Jelly|cooking | *sigh* And I hate SV so very much. /jealous |
| 23:57.13 | Garoun|Loupana | I've spent a LOT of money :( |
| 23:57.30 | Garoun|Loupana | basically bought anything off the AH that was under market value for armaments |
| 23:58.07 | |Jelly|cooking | I'm not that dedicated. |
| 23:58.41 | Garoun|Loupana | I'm the 2nd half of our MT squad for Kara :P I don't have a choice |
| 23:58.54 | |Jelly|cooking | lol |
| 23:59.03 | |Jelly|cooking | I'm the...umm...raid healer? rofl |
| 23:59.05 | Antiarc|Work | I've been playing my rogue since the game's launch and I'm exalted with exactly three factions |
| 23:59.18 | |Jelly|cooking | "We don't trust you to keep up the tank so...take the mages" |
| 23:59.19 | Antiarc|Work | And yet, I'm my guild's GM and rogue class lead >_> |
